Category: City Council

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2022-11-14 source: 2022-11-14_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:20, 0:00:22]: It looks like it's so much more wrong with it. [0:00:22, 0:00:25]: Are you not the season? [0:00:40, 0:00:46]: I want to tell you all the process is [0:00:47, 0:00:50]: [ 75.1, 76.9]: [0:01:17, 0:01:24]: Somewhere things go for smaller business productions. Yes, yes. [0:01:27, 0:01:30]: Okay. I'm gonna do it again. [0:01:30, 0:01:34]: Okay. [0:01:35, 0:01:45]: But it went a little bit. [0:01:50, 0:02:10]: What people are that sort of thing. And um if you're again if you're doing any specials or anything like that, let us know. I am. And we will people come in and store it. Okay. So I will I assign the school and send them to us. [0:02:10, 0:02:10]: Good um [0:02:11, 0:02:15]: And you were okay with how that works and everything? [0:02:15, 0:02:34]: Oh yes, you didn't do the evidence. So you can teach everybody how to do it. Have you seen what it looks like in everything? I think I saw it at the meeting. Okay,'cause we've got a new feature to do it. [0:02:36, 0:02:56]: Here I'm here. Here at a library. Thank you, thank you. This is Pavert Brown. She could come up with some stuff. The fact that this was her friend. [0:02:56, 0:02:58]: Yeah, [0:02:59, 0:03:03]: Goodness. So yeah, really. [0:03:14, 0:03:15]: I guess. [0:03:25, 0:03:30]: [231.4, 239.8]: [0:04:01, 0:04:06]: I think if the small boot is gonna be a [0:04:06, 0:04:15]: Problemation or something in there when they're setting up asking on the first four uh this reading. Well, you give the response. [0:04:20, 0:04:21]: Okay, I think that's [0:04:21, 0:04:25]: Okay, yeah, craft means that yes, okay. [0:04:38, 0:04:38]: [282.6, 287.2]: That's the same thing. Yeah, alright. [0:04:51, 0:04:52]: Oh yeah, I think. [0:04:54, 0:04:56]: Yeah, but we're gonna put that again. [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: Just the words of that. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Yeah. [0:06:50, 0:06:54]: And then we used to be out in the standard. [0:07:17, 0:07:21]: The season is not called stuff. [0:07:22, 0:07:24]: Okay, I don't know. [0:07:24, 0:07:28]: And that's just kind of in the physical class. [0:07:35, 0:07:35]: I'll say that. [0:07:41, 0:07:45]: But no I think she's a little bit. [0:08:10, 0:08:12]: I think that's a purpose. [0:08:13, 0:08:15]: This is where I'm going to. [0:08:44, 0:08:45]: [527.9, 530.0]: Okay, so pops in that. [0:08:55, 0:09:00]: They don't see that's where we go to take picture. [0:09:01, 0:09:04]: The proxy, yeah, so you see okay. [0:09:09, 0:09:10]: Yeah. [0:09:15, 0:09:33]: Yeah, I'm not sure. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It didn't seem to come on, so I would have to do that. [0:09:40, 0:09:45]: [585.9, 602.8]: So you need to have your poster software closed. Yeah, they need that we put in your bag. [0:10:03, 0:10:05]: But maybe you have to start a little bit. [0:10:16, 0:10:19]: Yeah, there's [0:10:20, 0:10:25]: Uh we got a few minutes. I'll have to go away and say, uh [0:10:27, 0:10:28]: Okay. [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: [657.9, 660.1]: [0:11:06, 0:11:08]: Sounds like [0:11:10, 0:11:20]: I'll fetch her. This picture. [0:11:30, 0:11:31]: Yeah, must be happy. [0:11:41, 0:11:43]: Oh yeah, [0:11:45, 0:11:49]: So that's it. [0:11:50, 0:11:55]: [722.7, 725.9]: No, that's actually here. [0:12:07, 0:12:08]: Okay. [0:12:09, 0:12:11]: It's not the best real. [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: I'm looking at this. [0:13:15, 0:13:29]: And that's why I'm not sure. She said she said it's not. [0:13:29, 0:13:32]: So that's that's not what I'm gonna know we use now. [0:13:32, 0:13:36]: [818.3, 820.0]: It is regarding the white one. [0:13:46, 0:13:56]: Yes, that's what we're talking about. [0:14:29, 0:14:30]: Uh [0:14:33, 0:14:34]: Yeah. [0:14:50, 0:15:10]: I just talked to the version of the five. [0:15:25, 0:15:45]: She has a she has a [0:17:25, 0:17:37]: And then waiting for this point. I I don't live in the car. [0:17:45, 0:18:00]: Yeah, actually doesn't show very much. Yeah, we've gone. Oh just right, it's still up and downtown. Well, [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: The jobs and stuff. [0:18:07, 0:18:09]: It's all our [0:18:22, 0:18:27]: Yeah. [0:18:29, 0:18:32]: That's Linda. Okay. [0:18:33, 0:18:35]: Yeah, but [0:19:04, 0:19:06]: [1185.6, 1187.0]: Yeah. [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: So that's easy to write. [0:20:13, 0:20:15]: Yeah, here it's [0:20:16, 0:20:20]: [1275.7, 1278.3]: [0:21:19, 0:21:22]: Oh, there's a bit of people coming. [0:21:24, 0:21:25]: Okay. [0:21:50, 0:21:50]: Okay. [0:24:00, 0:24:02]: [1805.3, 1806.1]: [0:30:11, 0:30:20]: Yeah, some yeah, well that's there. [0:30:26, 0:30:29]: I I study and I've not really. [0:30:50, 0:30:51]: I'm sorry. [0:30:52, 0:30:54]: These are fields. [0:30:55, 0:30:57]: You know what I'm saying? [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: Yeah, right. [0:31:26, 0:31:33]: Scared, did you want to go ahead and do that now or what? Are you doing it now? [0:31:33, 0:31:36]: Like searching. [0:31:38, 0:31:39]: Yeah, that's what it's. [0:31:54, 0:31:54]: Madam Clerk. [0:32:59, 0:33:01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:33:12, 0:33:16]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to call our [0:33:17, 0:33:23]: November fourteenth council meeting to order. I have now uh six oh four. [0:33:24, 0:33:29]: Invocation if you please stand if you can. Miss Linda Jones, come on up please. [0:33:29, 0:33:30]: To the mic. [0:33:37, 0:33:37]: Right there. [0:33:41, 0:33:46]: Good evening everyone. Evening. I'm just gonna turn myself a little bit. I like to face everyone too. [0:33:46, 0:33:48]: Welcome, welcome, welcome. [0:33:48, 0:33:58]: Um I'm new at what I do, but I love being in the spotlight. So thank you all for coming out tonight for this very important meeting and let's say a small prayer. [0:33:59, 0:34:03]: Father God, thank you for bringing all of us together tonight. [0:34:04, 0:34:16]: Father, please keep us all on the same accord. Give us the guidance and what you have sent us here for. These and all other blessings. We ask in your name Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. We pledge allegiance. [0:34:17, 0:34:30]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for this stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:34:31, 0:34:33]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:34:45, 0:35:04]: Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Mayor Ford, we have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, I believe we have an amendment to the agenda for this evening. [0:35:04, 0:35:06]: Yes. Thank you, Mayor. [0:35:06, 0:35:08]: Uh Mayor Council, I have several [0:35:09, 0:35:11]: Amendments to the agenda. [0:35:12, 0:35:14]: First a motion to [0:35:14, 0:35:16]: Amend the agenda for [0:35:17, 0:35:19]: Council's consideration [0:35:19, 0:35:22]: For a twenty twenty two [0:35:22, 0:35:25]: Volunteer Appreciation Denner [0:35:25, 0:35:29]: On December the tenth at the Murray Manor's Conference Center. [0:35:30, 0:35:40]: And Mayor, if you would, uh I take this from individual. Okay. S second. All right. It's been second by uh Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: Okay, we'll put that down. We'll put that at the end. [0:35:45, 0:35:45]: Um [0:35:45, 0:35:47]: I'm sorry, all opposed? Well. [0:35:48, 0:35:51]: I'm sorry, discussion, sir. Go right. I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir. [0:35:52, 0:36:07]: I'm sorry, good point for Mayor Proten. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. This motion is to add it to the agenda and once it it comes up, then we'll get into the discussion. But this is just approval to add it to the agenda for council consideration. [0:36:08, 0:36:25]: Okay, any further discussion? If not all on yes sir. Mayor due respect. We don't have a proposed budget for it because we only have one more week before the actual event. You don't have a proposed budget for it? I I do, but according to the process [0:36:25, 0:36:28]: The process is to add it to the agenda for discussion. [0:36:29, 0:36:36]: And once you get into discussion, all of that will come out. Then you're gonna ask for a proposed budget? Yes. I will share all of that. [0:36:36, 0:36:40]: But this is just to get approval to add it to the agenda. [0:36:42, 0:36:45]: Any other discussion? Once again, all in favor, please indicate. [0:36:46, 0:36:52]: Okay, unamous decision, thank you very much. We'll put that at the end of our regular uh part of our meeting, our new business, all right? [0:36:53, 0:36:56]: Okay. Mayor Ford and Council. [0:36:56, 0:37:00]: Um the next motion is to remove [0:37:00, 0:37:03]: Agenda item five [0:37:03, 0:37:06]: six and seven [0:37:07, 0:37:10]: To be rescheduled for the january eighteenth. [0:37:10, 0:37:11]: Night. [0:37:12, 0:37:13]: Agenda. [0:37:14, 0:37:17]: And I do have one more which is separate from this. [0:37:18, 0:37:26]: So I I will entertain uh is there a second to that motion? Second. Uh Mr. Els had a second to that. Is there any further discussion? [0:37:26, 0:37:27]: Um [0:37:28, 0:37:42]: Go ahead please. Okay, so I'm trying to look to see what item five, six, and seven is. It deals with the annexation dealing with uh development on one forty two and the uh applicant itself, along with the attorney the represents them has asked for this uh change. Thank you. [0:37:43, 0:37:47]: Any further discussion? All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:37:47, 0:37:52]: Now's decision. Thank you very much. Okay, that go ahead, Mayor Potem. And Mayor Ford and Council, the last motion. [0:37:53, 0:37:54]: is to remove [0:37:55, 0:37:59]: Ам сара історій. [0:38:03, 0:38:14]: Uh uh y wait a minute. I'm I'm sorry. Yeah, me I think me sixteen, sir. Let me make sure. Uh originally it was eleven. Uh to remove [0:38:16, 0:38:17]: I'm sorry, to table [0:38:18, 0:38:20]: Uh agenda item sixteen. Right. [0:38:21, 0:38:27]: To table agenda item sixteen. Got it. Okay. And Mr. Alzana second that any further discussion? [0:38:28, 0:38:29]: All favor, please in okay. [0:38:30, 0:38:50]: All right, it's unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Now we need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Miss Barber had her hand up. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. Fantastic. Okay. What you have before you is the adoption of the minutes, the draft minutes for September 12th. [0:38:50, 0:39:01]: Council meeting and also the draft minutes for the September twenty-seventh council work session. If there are no changes or recommended changes to that, we're good with that. I need a motion to accept those minutes, please. [0:39:02, 0:39:06]: Mr Mr uh Blount, is there a second? Mayor. I'm I'm sorry, sir. [0:39:12, 0:39:13]: Add to the agenda? Yes sir. [0:39:14, 0:39:22]: The uh okay. One other matter would be the ordinance for the adoption of the budget or the reading of the budget. [0:39:23, 0:39:28]: Okay. And so we're going to present that we're going to present that ordinance to you all today as well. [0:39:28, 0:39:38]: All right. Uh I'm confused. Why why we're not adopting the budget. This will be the first reading of the budget. We're not adopting it. [0:39:40, 0:39:43]: Not adopted, it's the first reading. The adoption is December twelfth. [0:39:43, 0:40:00]: All right, so we don't need the ordinance until December twelfth? All right, we do not. So first reading, public hearing. Okay, that's good. We don't need to amend that. All right. I mean I'm I'm assuming that's the correct answer. I mean I I'm I'm surprised about this, but okay. Yeah, that's that's fine. All right. All right. [0:40:01, 0:40:05]: Back to okay. In reference to the draft minutes. [0:40:05, 0:40:09]: Twelfth September twelfth and September twenty seventh. I need a motion to accept those minutes, please. [0:40:11, 0:40:17]: So moved. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? Ms. Barber second that any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. [0:40:18, 0:40:24]: Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. Now we're on to a ceremonial uh portion of our council meeting. [0:40:25, 0:40:30]: I'll come down and council you can join if you like down front. [0:40:31, 0:40:34]: And we'll go a couple of populations for each thing. [0:40:40, 0:40:42]: So it is that just [0:40:44, 0:40:49]: All right, so we have here two. First one is going to be a small business salary. [0:40:53, 0:40:54]: Just uh [0:40:54, 0:40:58]: Main Street's gonna come on up. And by the way, it's a small bit of salary. [0:40:58, 0:41:18]: If by chance, let's do this, let's see what happens here. If by chance, if anybody in council chambers is a small business owner, an entrepreneur, come on up. If you're a small business owner, entrepreneur, come on up. So this is this deals with you. Come on up and join us. Entrepreneur. [0:41:18, 0:41:23]: All right. [0:41:26, 0:41:28]: All businesses, come on up. [0:41:29, 0:41:30]: Come on up. Gather around. [0:41:40, 0:41:42]: Well I guess I need to stay right here. All right. [0:41:45, 0:41:46]: I'm sorry. [0:41:47, 0:41:51]: Well I was gonna say I'll I'll I'll walk I'll stay right here, it doesn't bother me. I'm I'm fine. [0:41:51, 0:41:54]: All right. Thank you, Madam Clerk. [0:41:56, 0:41:59]: So look at all these business owners up here with the council. All right, good stuff. [0:42:00, 0:42:01]: Yeah, yeah. [0:42:05, 0:42:25]: All right. So we have here a proclamation, City of Stockbridge, and recognition of Small Business Saturday. Whereas founded by the American Express in 2010 and officially co-sponsored by the Small Business Association, SBA, since 2011, Small Business Saturday has become an important part of small businesses busiest shopping season. Historically, the report [0:42:25, 0:42:45]: Projected spending among US consumers who shopped at independent retailers and restaurants on Small Business Saturday reached an estimate of$23.3 billion. And whereas Saturday, November 26, 2022, is Small Business Saturday, a day to celebrate and support small businesses, and all day, all they do for the [0:42:45, 0:43:05]: our communities. This year we know that small businesses need to support now more than ever as they navigate, retool, and pivot from the effects of coronavirus pandemic. Whereas according accordingly to the United States Small Business Administration, there are currently 32.5 million small businesses in the United States. [0:43:05, 0:43:25]: Small businesses represent more than 99% of companies with paid employers, employees, excuse me, and are responsible for over 60% of net new jobs created since 1995. Whereas small businesses employ nearly 47% of the employees in the private sector in our country and contribute positively. [0:43:25, 0:43:45]: To the local community by supplying jobs and generating tax revenue. Now, therefore, I am Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of uh a vested authority vested in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gandhi, and Fonso Thomas, do hereby urge the residents of our amazing Stockbridge community to support small. [0:43:45, 0:44:05]: Small businesses and merchants today during the main street shop small blitz during the entire month of November. Participate in s in shop small Saturday, November 26th, and support local small businesses throughout the entire year. In witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the fourteenth day of November. [0:44:05, 0:44:10]: November of our year of our Lord, 2022, and I signed a proclamation along with a clerk for Nessa Holiday. [0:44:11, 0:44:24]: Okay. Now, since since we have several business owners, but since we have the main street, why don't you come on up and'cause this deals this deals deals in your area of responsibility, right? Right, why don't you all come on up and say some words here as well? [0:44:25, 0:44:25]: How about it? [0:44:26, 0:44:46]: Thank you, Mayor Ford, and thank you everyone who is here with us today. We have a very um eclectic and unique um representation of our small businesses here in the city of Stockbridge. Um we are happy to support them during the month of November, which is the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz Month. And as the Mayor [0:44:46, 0:45:06]: told you we will also be celebrating Small Business Saturday, which will be the Saturday immediately following Thanksgiving. This year it will be November the 26th, and we invite everyone to go out and support our small businesses on that day and throughout the month of November. [0:45:07, 0:45:08]: Okay, but [0:45:11, 0:45:25]: Yeah, since I have all the uh these business owners, I'm obviously everybody can't speak anybody want a special thing they want to say, these small business owners, anybody? Okay, you're all good? All right. Well thank you. Thank you for being in the same shop here. [0:45:30, 0:45:31]: Two months. [0:45:31, 0:45:37]: Yes. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead, please. Come on, please. [0:45:38, 0:45:40]: You can go on and tell them. [0:45:41, 0:45:51]: Great. Hi everyone. We just have um some background information for you um about the small business blitz. Um [0:45:51, 0:45:55]: We're very happy to say that the Stockbridge Main Street program [0:45:55, 0:45:56]: Воз аварий [0:45:57, 0:46:02]: A national recognition by the American Express Company who created Small Business Saturday. [0:46:02, 0:46:04]: For our innovative [0:46:04, 0:46:24]: innovative projects that we do here in Stockbridge. That being said, this time around, we normally have a small passport for everyone to carry with them from store to store. We still have that, but this year we also have a digital app. So we are encouraging you when you go out into the hall [0:46:24, 0:46:44]: If you see the QR code next to the shop small logo and promo items, please go ahead and download the app so that you'll be able to shop. All of the businesses are located inside of the app. It also gives you an opportunity to upload. [0:46:44, 0:46:50]: Upload four receipts for your purchases, proving that you have shopped at four places around the city during the month of November. [0:46:51, 0:47:09]: And with those four purchases, you'll be eligible for a prize pack drawing. So and it will be full of merchandise from our um participating merchants. So please go out and support, and we appreciate you supporting the city of Stockbridge and our projects for our business community. [0:47:10, 0:47:11]: Thank you. [0:47:20, 0:47:22]: Our next uh proclamation actually is uh [0:47:23, 0:47:31]: Dealing with uh member of the Divine Nine, Sigma Gamma Rose Award Incorporated, celebrating one hundred years of uh service. Ladies, come on up, please. [0:47:39, 0:47:41]: You know you're taking you're taking all the pictures, I said. [0:47:42, 0:47:43]: Yeah, come on over here please. Yeah, thank you. [0:47:46, 0:47:47]: Okay. [0:47:49, 0:48:09]: Okay, what this says here is that whereas Sigma Gamma Rose Saority Incorporated was founded November twelfth, nineteen twenty-two, at Butler University in Indianapolis, Indiana, by seven young educators and now has over five hundred chapters, with the organization's focus on community service being an essential part of the organization's work. [0:48:09, 0:48:29]: It is a mission of Sigma GammaRoll Sority incorporated to enhance the quality of life for women and their families in the U.S. and globally throughout community service, civil, and social action, and to achieve greater progress in the areas of education, health, awareness, and leadership development. Whereas since its inception, the dynamic women of Sigma Gamma Roll [0:48:29, 0:48:49]: Have built and sustained a well-known and well-respected reputation for leading positive change to help uplift the community through sisterhood, leadership, and service. Whereas Lambda Sigma Sigma Alumni chapter of Sigma Gown Room Sword Incorporated was chartered on June 9th, 2012, in Stockbridge, Georgia. Lambda Sigma Sigma's charter moment. [0:48:49, 0:49:09]: own model, stand up and stand out through sisterhood, service, and scholarship. It's a true testament to the work being done in our commun local community. And now there are therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtual authority vested in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Londa Barber, John Blount, Nakisha Gantton and Fonzel Thomas, to hereby proclaim [0:49:09, 0:49:25]: in recognition of a hundred year anniversary Simon Gamarose Award incorporated on this momentous occasion, and witness thereof I have here here unto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the fourteenth day of November, the year of our Lord, two thousand twenty two, and I signed this loan when I clicked for Nessa Holiday. [0:49:27, 0:49:35]: Mic is yours. I can say something. [0:49:36, 0:49:41]: Uh as the president of the Lambda Sigma Sigma alumnate chapter here in Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:49:42, 0:50:01]: Uh I wanna thank the council, thanking Mayor Ford and all the council members because since we charted here, this council has been nothing but supportive of all of our events and we continue and will continue to give back to the communities um that we support from the schools to teaching our children how to swim to other things that we represent. So thank you so much for this honor. [0:50:03, 0:50:14]: Yeah, this uh this uh get her in here. Why counsel won't come down this way so we can uh get a picture with everybody. [0:50:15, 0:50:18]: Two ladies in the middle. Okay, you're defined, one. [0:50:21, 0:50:22]: Come on in folks. [0:50:25, 0:50:33]: Oh no, no, no, this side. Come on, come on, come on get next year. Okay, we good? [0:50:34, 0:50:35]: Yeah, [0:50:36, 0:50:39]: You want me to turn this way or this way towards me. Okay. [0:50:43, 0:50:44]: Okay. Okay. [0:50:57, 0:51:04]: Thank you. Can you take one to the phone? Yeah. Oh, I'm escaped. [0:51:09, 0:51:20]: Thank you so much. Congratulations, ladies. [0:51:47, 0:51:50]: Mayor, if you just recognize me, that would be great. [0:51:52, 0:51:54]: Yes, uh Councilman Alexander, please, go ahead, please. [0:51:55, 0:52:11]: Mayor, I want to uh make a motion to amend the agenda. I want to uh we there was number sixteen was mistakenly eliminated and we wanna put it back on. So I'm gonna make a motion to uh reinstate the uh mo number sixteen which was tabled. [0:52:11, 0:52:12]: All right, so a second? [0:52:14, 0:52:16]: Okay, Mayor Portem Second, any further discussion? [0:52:17, 0:52:18]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:52:19, 0:52:22]: All right, so you now see s uh uh Mr. Blount? [0:52:23, 0:52:31]: D are you you for favor? Okay, so you now have decisions. All right, it's back on. Alrighty. And on that note, uh [0:52:32, 0:52:33]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:52:37, 0:52:44]: Okay. On that note we have our first uh we had a public hearing. Uh let's see here. [0:52:45, 0:52:47]: Wait, can we go on? Public hearing. [0:52:47, 0:52:52]: Please uh during the public hearing folks, uh please mute all cell phones and electronic devices. [0:52:53, 0:52:58]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight on public hearing item, please fill out a form available on the table. [0:52:58, 0:53:01]: and hand it to the city clerk before approaching uh the podium. [0:53:02, 0:53:10]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by applicant and representatives regarding the proposed plans for properly along. [0:53:11, 0:53:17]: uh with any other relevant uh information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. [0:53:17, 0:53:23]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. [0:53:24, 0:53:29]: Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be expended at the discretion of the council. [0:53:30, 0:53:35]: Please keep comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. [0:53:35, 0:53:39]: We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. [0:53:39, 0:53:43]: Please refrain from applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:53:44, 0:53:56]: After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the council, staff, or audience. All comments must be made from the podium and [0:53:56, 0:54:00]: Where you are required to state your name, address for the record. [0:54:00, 0:54:03]: Please note that these hearings are not debated. [0:54:03, 0:54:23]: are not a debate, excuse me. Failure to comply with cause will c will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the buildings by law enforcement if you deviate from the police proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person shall speak more than once. The applicant may rever uh reverse part of his or her speaking time excuse me reserve. [0:54:23, 0:54:34]: part of his his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. [0:54:34, 0:54:45]: If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. The presiding officer will call for a motion and a second to the motion and have any unnecessary discussion. [0:54:45, 0:54:49]: The matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote. [0:54:49, 0:54:53]: to recommend approval or denial for the request. So this is our first item for public hearing. [0:54:54, 0:55:03]: Which is the first reading proposed FY twenty twenty three operating budget and capital improvement plan presented by Mr. Gardner and and Mr. Wiggins, please. [0:55:06, 0:55:07]: Mm-hmm. [0:55:07, 0:55:13]: Good night, Mayor, members of council, residents, uh [0:55:46, 0:55:47]: All right, there we go. [0:55:50, 0:55:52]: Uh [0:55:57, 0:55:59]: No. [0:56:08, 0:56:11]: And okay, just [0:56:39, 0:56:48]: All right. So tonight, Mayor Council, we we present to you the FY twenty three budget. Uh as part of this process, um, I will let you know that [0:56:48, 0:57:08]: In I guess my twelve years of doing this, this this budget has been the most trickiest of them all. Um and I'll talk to you about some of the factors that that make this a tricky budget. Um but definitely um we we propose a balance budget as we did at the first presentation, but there'll be some changes in the numbers. [0:57:08, 0:57:28]: And there will continue to be some changes as it relates to revenues. Remember that your budget is predicated on revenues, not the expenses. The revenues is what the state recognizes part of your budget. So what's in this proposed budget? Some of the things we didn't discuss before, obviously, no property tax millage is contained in this fiscal year's budget. [0:57:29, 0:57:49]: Um this fiscal year budget does have some increases, some of our permit fees to bring us up to to date with what's being done metro-wide. Um we were recommended for some fees as it relates to our cemeteries, um specifically because there's been folks burying people and not paying um or not paying the [0:57:49, 0:58:01]: right costs. Um, but also we have some increases in our water rates and that's consistent with faller and Henry County's when Henry County water authority goes up, we we mirror their increase as well. [0:58:03, 0:58:23]: Some of the opportunities and challenges uh as it relates to the budget. Um we continue to fund our uh public safety, our police department operations and requests for equipment. Uh some opportunities around uh SPLOSS, our special purpose local option sales tax, and our T SPROSS, making sure that those projects continue in earnest. [0:58:23, 0:58:34]: I think you guys have been proud of of how our public works staff have actually moved forward with making those projects um come to fruition, but also our support for economic development throughout the city. [0:58:35, 0:58:42]: and for potential new economic development sites, commercial sites that are proposing to come into the city um in the very near future. [0:58:42, 0:58:44]: Wanted uh the budget also. [0:58:44, 0:58:57]: um some of the opportunities around incentives for our downtown redevelopment, revitalization to provide incentive programs and as well as projects that will change the landscape as we know it within our downtown area. [0:58:57, 0:59:13]: Some of the challenges. One of the biggest challenges that we have is lost our local option sales taxes. You know, we finally came to an agreement with the county um after we originally submitted the budget to you guys. The trick herein is the county got their sixty-six [0:59:13, 0:59:16]: We have determined how we split the thirty four. [0:59:17, 0:59:19]: But there's also another trick in this. [0:59:19, 0:59:21]: That we found out from GMA. [0:59:22, 0:59:22]: It's dead. [0:59:23, 0:59:30]: At the time when we were going through this process, we were going through this process with a population based on the twenty twenty census. Well [0:59:32, 0:59:36]: As of November eighth, that population dynamics has changed. [0:59:37, 0:59:57]: And where do we actually get the additional um how can I say two point seven five roughly in loss? And who does that come from? Um we've been told by GMA that it comes from another entity other than our sister cities. So that's gonna play an important role on [0:59:57, 1:00:08]: and how that's distributed and accounted for. So that's some of the trickiness in in as it relates to to local option sales tax is that we still have to come up with a number [1:00:09, 1:00:13]: between the four cities and then we have to have a conversation with that entity. [1:00:13, 1:00:33]: other entity regarding um some additional sales stocks based on on the growth um that we just got, which is more than fif sixteen percent, fifteen percent of the city's existing population, but right around two point seven five percent of the county's population. [1:00:35, 1:00:39]: Some of the other challenges are gonna be around long term funding for our general fund. [1:00:39, 1:00:53]: via sales tax. I I think this discussion has been had a few times in the past before I got here, but definitely there's gonna have to be some look at at in that area as we move forward. Um and then also making sure that we manage our long term debt. [1:00:54, 1:01:09]: portfolios, you know, we've we've bonded some really cool projects in making sure that we stay consistent with making re making those debt payments um as we move forward with growth and other opportunities to look at debt service for other pro major projects. [1:01:15, 1:01:16]: Mm-hmm. [1:01:19, 1:01:30]: So remember we talked about gener uh general fund budget, which is recognized by Department of Revenue as the budget that should be submitted to them. It doesn't always include your citywide budget, but definitely your general fund budget. [1:01:31, 1:01:35]: Um one of our biggest obviously source of revenue when it comes to [1:01:35, 1:01:37]: Um general phone. [1:01:37, 1:01:49]: is gonna be uh loss local option sales tax. Uh and we're recommending that we increase that a little bit based on the percentage that we know we're gonna be entitled to as part of the new growth, the new uh [1:01:50, 1:01:53]: Changes in the loss negotiation is seven point four. [1:01:53, 1:02:13]: Alcohol beverages at right under seven hundred and seventy five seventy-six thousand. Insurance premium tax, uh, we'll see a slight in little decrease in there. We're still looking at that variable um because other communities are also looking at the number of insurance being written in their communities. And we're kind of consistent with the growth, continuous growth. Um [1:02:13, 1:02:20]: Um in the city as new businesses come in. So we'll definitely look at evaluating that between bringing back the final budget. [1:02:20, 1:02:27]: Um and then other taxes right around three point one million for a total of thirteen point five eight three million. [1:02:28, 1:02:29]: For the general fund revenues. [1:02:35, 1:02:55]: So when we talk about our source, um taxation is our number one source of revenue, which is makes up about sixty-four percent of, and that's sales tax, insurance premium tax, uh hotel motel tax, uh alcohol sales tax, liquor tax, um, those types of taxes that make up the bulk of [1:02:55, 1:02:56]: Yeah. [1:02:56, 1:03:15]: Um the next biggest source is our miscellaneous income and then uh license permits intergovernmental agreement, charge for services and fines and for and forfeitures. And obviously as you guys know, we're running our own police department, so you probably will see some increase in those over the next coming years as our police become more active in the community. [1:03:19, 1:03:21]: Looking at our three year comparison. [1:03:21, 1:03:25]: Um between what we've done from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one. [1:03:25, 1:03:35]: specifically in the general fund areas around taxation license and the governmental agreements, uh and the governmental uh revenues, um, coming up to a total [1:03:36, 1:03:49]: Excuse me, total revenue of twenty four point eight million for this fiscal year. And once again, that's predicated on us receiving additional sales tax as well as us receiving uh rollback. [1:03:49, 1:03:53]: That we negotiated recently with the county, and I think that's on the agenda. [1:03:54, 1:03:55]: I should be on the agenda tonight. [1:03:56, 1:03:57]: For us to um [1:03:57, 1:04:04]: send that official letter to Henry County so that we can acquire our two point four two point two four million dollars and um [1:04:05, 1:04:06]: And roll back. [1:04:06, 1:04:18]: to fund the police department. And I will say that once we get that money, that money will not go into the general pool as it relates to the general fund. It's gonna go in a special fund specific to the police department because that's where [1:04:18, 1:04:24]: It originally was intended to go from the taxpayers to Henry County for Henry County Police Service. [1:04:24, 1:04:26]: We will make sure that that does not co-mingle. [1:04:27, 1:04:28]: with any general fund activity. [1:04:31, 1:04:39]: And so with that comes where do we spend those general fund revenues? Um, the bulk of it obviously at thirty-four percent goes to the police department. [1:04:40, 1:04:40]: And [1:04:42, 1:05:02]: To the police department. And that'll be slightly higher if you include the cost, cost, cost for court. Say that five three times. Um, that will number would jump up to close to almost forty percent. Our next biggest department is our public works department, this funded with general fund, and that includes all of our local parks as well as [1:05:02, 1:05:09]: uh regular street programs, uh road maintenance programs and billing programs, uh out of uh [1:05:09, 1:05:12]: the public works department. Planning and zoning is at ten percent. [1:05:14, 1:05:31]: And obviously that's a crucial fund crucial department as we move forward with developing and growing the city. Um economic development is right around two percent and the rest of the departments come in under five, which includes our building maintenance, um, our finance department, executive department, and so forth. [1:05:32, 1:05:44]: Mayor. Yes sir. If we could stop right there, could you rewind to the previous uh apply? I I I want to look at this pie here and I want um [1:05:44, 1:05:47]: for the benefit of everyone here, the council [1:05:47, 1:05:49]: And the public. [1:05:49, 1:06:09]: Well there is a lot of talk about, you know, the s expenses for the city. And uh I just wanna understand and I wanna make sure that I'm clear on this. The general buildings, the government buildings includes all city facilities, correct? That's correct. Okay. That includes Merrymanders, that includes City Hall. Merlimanders chaired, this building. [1:06:09, 1:06:22]: in the police department and other public works associated with the other. The amphitheaters? Yes. The amphitheater? Yes. And all of these entities, right? Okay. Because all of those included [1:06:23, 1:06:26]: Mm encompass. What percent did you have there? [1:06:27, 1:06:42]: For building government buildings? Mm-hmm. Uh right at five percent. So all of these entities, including the amphitheater, represent a total of five percent of the budget. We hear a lot of talk out there about how much go ahead. [1:06:42, 1:07:02]: But that's that's a that's as it released to maintenance. Race right, right. Of course. I'm talking about the overall upkeep general fund budget. The amphitheaters hit the an this the Merr Manders hit, the city halls hit general maintenance and everything as it refers to all of those buildings. [1:07:02, 1:07:03]: Buildings, correct? [1:07:03, 1:07:23]: Correct. Not not the of course not the death service because that we pay a lot of that out of splots and other categories. But in terms of the overall hit to the budget, that represents five percent, correct? That is correct. Okay. That's what I want to that's what I want to hit on right there, to understand the decisions that we're making. We spend a lot of time talk talking and the public spends a lot of time and there's a lot of [1:07:23, 1:07:43]: lot of misinformation out there about what the impact on maintenance. That's the discussion that we hear a lot of in the public purview about the maintenance being all of these thousands of dollars every month. It represents a microc of five total percent of the budget for all of the city buildings. So in in your budget. Yes and and and realize [1:07:43, 1:07:48]: Um the majority of our our buildings um [1:07:49, 1:07:59]: uh under twenty years old. Mm-hmm. Right? Um, Merle Manders, this building were all built in oh nine, teared stricken oh nine. Um [1:08:00, 1:08:02]: Let's see the all [1:08:02, 1:08:20]: City Hall building as I know it is now the police department. The police department. You know, that was built years ago, obviously, and that's being renovated. So when you talk about the OM costs, the newer your building, the lower you pay for OM costs. It's like your house. The older your house, the younger your house is, the newer your house is, the less you pay on [1:08:21, 1:08:34]: operations and maintenance. As your house age and the mechanics mechanical within that house age, obviously your costs go up. Now, are there variants? Yes, like if you had a bad builder and they build some crappy stuff and give you [1:08:35, 1:08:55]: You'll have some costs that typically you don't associate. But definitely most of our buildings right now are under 20 years old. And we will continue to see low maintenance costs on a lot of those buildings for the near-foreseeable future. But obviously as they get closer to 20, 25, 30 years old, those maintenance. [1:08:55, 1:09:02]: Those OM costs will start to creep up. But right now that's where we are. Especially on a brand new building, right? Okay. Thank you. [1:09:10, 1:09:27]: So as I me I mentioned before, our overall city budget is now set at fifty three. I think when we presented last time to you guys it was a set at forty nine and change. And once again that's because we're recognizing the increase in sales tax that percentage wise that the city will get. Um [1:09:28, 1:09:45]: And that's obviously still up for negotiation because we still haven't come to a final conclusion on our split of the thirty-four and what it's gonna take to get that extra two point something that we need from the county per the law, as we were were told by GMA. [1:09:45, 1:09:51]: Um that's gonna play a critical role obviously in our final numbers that we'll bring back to you guys in December. [1:09:52, 1:10:05]: You know, we don't see our expensive numbers moving anywhere. We do expect some juggling in the in the revenues based on what's happening with lost. Um that's gonna play a huge role. Uh Mr. Gardner uh question though. [1:10:05, 1:10:13]: I just I guess it's this is a common sense type question here, really, because of our success on November eighth and the fact that effectively one January [1:10:13, 1:10:21]: we're gonna increase in size. So otherwise this budget, as we look at those numbers, this budget is obviously going to change somewhat to a certain degree, I would imagine. [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: Before we approve it in December, is that correct? [1:10:24, 1:10:44]: Correct. So the the key for us is we have until December thirty first. Okay. Enriched the sign of our loss agreement solidified and that's between the city and the counties and the cities and the cities. Okay. Right. Um I know there's call, I saw email a call for us to start having discussions amongst the cities. Um [1:10:44, 1:10:52]: um and what that distribution would be and you know how w how we will effectuate the distribution of those based on, you know [1:10:52, 1:10:57]: as it that happened ten years ago when I was a part of the process with the city of McDonough. [1:10:57, 1:10:59]: City of McDonough and [1:10:59, 1:11:04]: Stargridge gave to some of our smaller sister cities who weren't growing as fast, and so they saw [1:11:05, 1:11:10]: uh neck n little to no growth in their sales stocks and that's why they give we might have to do that again. [1:11:11, 1:11:28]: Um with some of our sister cities. And so what that's gonna how that's gonna affect what that percentage will work out to, we don't know yet. We haven't gotten to that point. Um and then obviously the fact that we brought in close to seven new seven thousand new residents into the city, somewhere between there, is gonna play a role as to [1:11:29, 1:11:49]: That percentage and then where do we get that percentage from? We're being told that it comes not from our three city sisters, but from our big sister. Uh and so that's a discussion that's gonna be have to hide. And uh not looking forward to that. But you gotta do it. That is correct. I mean what's what's what's due to us? [1:11:49, 1:11:57]: is due to us and and we shall go after it. Yes. So okay. You know, at some point we will settle on a revenue number. [1:11:57, 1:12:17]: Um and if we get above that revenue number, we'll obviously make the change as a budget amendment in the new year because we don't know how long this talk is gonna last us before our effective date. Um and that's just part of the budget process. It's meant to be amended, it's not a it's not the Bible or the Constitution, it's a living breeding document. [1:12:17, 1:12:19]: Thank you. Appreciate it. Mayor have a call. Sir, go ahead, please. [1:12:21, 1:12:35]: Mr. Gardner, the uh general funded tax revenue projection for 22 uh 2023 is 13 million, a little bit point five million, thirteen um five eighty-three. [1:12:36, 1:12:43]: Um the revenue expenditures set is at twenty two one ninety three. [1:12:44, 1:13:04]: This is only this is only looking at your tax the taxes that you collect. So this is not permitting and some of the other offset costs. So this is looking at your taxation level. So your sales tax, your al your alcohol tax, your insurance premium tax. This number does not reflect permit fees, fines, forfeitures, those other types of of [1:13:04, 1:13:12]: Of revenues that we get is just looking at your taxation side of the house that most people are always concerned about, right? What do we pay in taxes? [1:13:13, 1:13:33]: Most people worry about property tax, but in this case we illustrate the sales tax portion of the house. So we did this presentation a month ago when we did the first presentation to you guys and broke it out this way. At this point I could only go by what I see. Yes, sir. So and what and what's being presented to us and what's being presented to us all of that [1:13:33, 1:13:35]: That's that's everything in a nutshell right there for you. [1:13:36, 1:13:49]: And so when we say that we're going to have an increase and you're going there with this, I'm just trying to hear where we how are we closing the gap. [1:13:50, 1:13:52]: And and and expenditures versus [1:13:53, 1:13:54]: Revenue coming in. [1:13:55, 1:14:00]: Right. We just I just mentioned to you that uh expenses uh [1:14:02, 1:14:22]: Set right now at a certain level based on some of the recommended changes that we got from council. Um that we need to make some changes there. But those are already set. The key for us is the revenue side of the house is still a little undetermined because of the fact that we have not negotiated on our largest source of revenue, which is law. [1:14:22, 1:14:25]: [4465.9, 4467.6]: Right? We still have to negotiate. [1:14:27, 1:14:29]: a distribution number. [1:14:29, 1:14:31]: А та сам тайна ви стіль. [1:14:32, 1:14:33]: To give you a budget. [1:14:34, 1:14:41]: Right. And that budget is predicated on our best information that we have at hand that we can go by. [1:14:42, 1:14:46]: Right. If this was a non tr if this was a traditional year it'd be easy. [1:14:46, 1:14:59]: where we know what our sales tax is going to be because we know what the percentages and we guess what the growth in the and the sales will be. This year we don't know because we are in a negotiating year. And unfortunate [1:14:59, 1:15:16]: This is take this process has taken us to where we are in terms of just getting approval from the county to the 6634. But now we have to go to the second part on, and that is how do Locust Grove, Hampton, Stockbridge, and McDonough distribute the 34%. [1:15:17, 1:15:29]: So until we get to that number, we won't it's still a guessing game, but because our year is a January to December versus other folks who said July to Ju to June. [1:15:29, 1:15:46]: We're not catch twenty two because we're sitting here waiting to see what that number is gonna be and at some point we just have to settle on a number. And if that number then is p negotiated and certified is a little higher, we we recognize the value. If it comes in a lower, we make the cuts and we recognize the revenue. [1:15:48, 1:15:58]: I I appreciate that, Mr. Garner. Uh one of the things that has concerned me, uh, because one of the things I've looked at is is the numbers. [1:15:59, 1:16:07]: And when we talk about numbers, we're talking about this is the first time since I've been on this council, we're balancing our budget with fund balance. [1:16:07, 1:16:08]: That's not true. [1:16:09, 1:16:16]: Our budget was at seven thousand. Uh seven uh around twelve million. Your last year's budget was was budgeted with some fund balance, so [1:16:17, 1:16:37]: with some fund balance. Yes. And I'm not saying this for argumentative purposes. I'm just trying to make sure that when we present this budget, we present what is needed, that we're identifying every elephant in the room and being open and transparent with the citizens about what is needed for this for this city that has bonded$25 million, that has started his own police [1:16:37, 1:16:47]: Department that's had so much going on. How are we going to sustain this? And that's why I come with numbers and I want to see numbers. And I'll um what's presented tonight. [1:16:48, 1:16:51]: right now and what we have to go by right now. [1:16:51, 1:16:55]: is is not the full picture. [1:16:55, 1:16:59]: Of transparency because what was given prior to tonight. [1:17:00, 1:17:04]: With us. Uh y is there something something wrong, Mr. Garner? No, sir. [1:17:06, 1:17:09]: I just want us to make sure that we're getting the numbers. [1:17:09, 1:17:11]: where they need to be. [1:17:20, 1:17:20]: Yes, sir. [1:17:21, 1:17:41]: Because you g you you have another projection that's on here that shows a projection of budget twenty twenty up uh twenty four million. That's almost double that's double of what we what the budget was almost two years ago. And so there's there's not a negoti enough in negotiations with the county. [1:17:41, 1:17:41]: Mm-hmm. [1:17:41, 1:17:43]: That's gonna close that gap. [1:17:44, 1:17:46]: Sir you can't [1:17:46, 1:18:06]: Okay. Every budget year is different. They're not the same because every year you're going to have requests for a little bit more to do a little bit more. And when your budget grows, and that's how most communities that are growing, their budget does the same thing. So you can't compare the city's budget to what it was ten years ago. Yes, you look at it from a comparison. [1:18:06, 1:18:07]: [4687.8, 4694.1]: But to say where we are today is the same as where we were in twenty twenty or twenty twenty nine, it's a different world. [1:18:14, 1:18:26]: Because when councils say we want to see more of this happening or more of that happening, these things increase or when we operationally see that certain things need to happen, that increases your need for your budget. [1:18:26, 1:18:32]: for you to provide provide those services to the citizens. So to say yes, this is what happened and [1:18:32, 1:18:34]: We are being transparent. [1:18:35, 1:18:37]: And the way we're presenting the information. [1:18:37, 1:18:44]: In terms of what this budget requires, the information is right here. You you wanna ask questions, ask question, but [1:18:44, 1:18:49]: We're not we're not hiding anything from the residents of the city we're we're not as [1:18:49, 1:19:05]: I never said I never said let me let me say this. I never said the city was hiding anything. You could you you could let me s let me finish, Ms. Gunn. You could change the focus on a lens and see the same thing, but you see it brighter. And we are the product of the decisions we make on this council. [1:19:06, 1:19:07]: This whole city is. [1:19:08, 1:19:15]: But what was told to us on the progression of what we've already this council has already approved. [1:19:16, 1:19:17]: We are not addressing [1:19:18, 1:19:21]: What it's gonna take for us [1:19:21, 1:19:25]: in the future to accommodate for all of this revenue. [1:19:25, 1:19:27]: uh for all of these expenditures. [1:19:28, 1:19:29]: That's not on this paper. [1:19:30, 1:19:32]: So this hold on let me say this. [1:19:32, 1:19:37]: Not one counselor here, and not myself, and they have everybody got it except me. [1:19:37, 1:19:40]: I've yet to get one piece of paper to show. [1:19:40, 1:19:45]: Ані фенчованто субстей осіб. [1:19:45, 1:19:53]: For what the expenditure's been put out there. This is what I'm talking about. We're right here at the end we we're in with we're in mid November. [1:19:53, 1:19:54]: With a budget right now. [1:19:55, 1:19:56]: To go into the new year. [1:19:58, 1:20:04]: And when we talk about transparency and we talk about being open and talking to the citizens, I'm not trying to say anybody's hiding anything. [1:20:05, 1:20:10]: I'm saying that we lay everything out on the table, first of all giving it to this council, and then we present it to the public. [1:20:11, 1:20:25]: I don't see that being done. So so Mr Mr Blount, what you're saying is you're not seeing what twenty twenty four budget is gonna look like or twenty twenty five budget is gonna look like. Well, unfortunate we're not charge grid providing [1:20:25, 1:20:40]: Multi-year budget to council, we're charged with providing a fiscal year budget, which means the upcoming fiscal year. Mr. Garner, five to you comment, I have an analysis done from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty-four. Okay. And what was and what was done in that analysis through our financial advisors. [1:20:40, 1:20:44]: And our treasurer, that announcement, let me finish, sir, please. [1:20:45, 1:21:05]: That analysis showed a projection of what we would do. All we can do go by is propose and propose numbers that we may have. And if that's the case, then I haven't seen a proposed projection to show sustainability. So once again, so you had a projection done by your financial advisor probably. [1:21:05, 1:21:09]: probably during either before or during the budget or somewhere in between. [1:21:10, 1:21:19]: Yes, that's that's fine to look at where you're hoping that where things will be. But your budget is your yearly s yearly budget and [1:21:20, 1:21:34]: It's not a y you're not we're not charged with presenting a multi year budget to you. That's different from you asking a financial advisor, Hey, um where do you see us five years from now? And they paint that try to paint that picture to you. [1:21:35, 1:21:45]: We're charged with providing an annual operating and capital budget on a annual, which means year basis. No, if it's if it's if it's this if this is for now. [1:21:45, 1:21:51]: But the transparency is is that we're now pulling funds to now balance our budget. [1:21:51, 1:22:02]: Yes, sir. And and I will tell you that we're not the only city around the country. I'm not concerned about any city except the city of Stockholm. Can I finish any other cities? [1:22:03, 1:22:08]: I'm only concerned about the city of Stockbury. Understood. And and if if you could let me finish, Mr. Blount. [1:22:09, 1:22:10]: Right. [1:22:10, 1:22:17]: Um you tell me I cut you off, so I'm quiet. So here's it, right? I said in here some of the challenges that we have. [1:22:17, 1:22:33]: Some of the challenges is going to be around our loss distribution and knowing what the level will be at this time. Then I said here, our long-term funding for general fund operations via sales tax only is going to be a challenge. [1:22:34, 1:22:38]: That's what I said right here in front of you. There is no ambiguity in that. That is specific. [1:22:39, 1:22:44]: Now how the discussion goes upon that is probably not a discussion for today. [1:22:44, 1:23:01]: But something that may and council might want to discuss moving forward at a different time about hey, how do we address our long-term viability in light of our growth and development? And how do we pay for what we want what the citizens want is the continued higher level of service provided to them. [1:23:01, 1:23:03]: That's a totally different discussion, sir. [1:23:05, 1:23:06]: Mayor Ford. Go ahead, sir. Mayor Portem. [1:23:08, 1:23:12]: Mr. Gardner, I I I appreciate the dialogue. Um [1:23:13, 1:23:14]: You present it [1:23:15, 1:23:24]: a budget to us before and to my knowledge I was the only one that responded to that. [1:23:25, 1:23:35]: Uh this is the first reading, but I'm enjoying this this dialogue and this conversation. I just wish I could have gotten a little bit more of this. [1:23:35, 1:23:38]: From the council. [1:23:38, 1:23:40]: Incrementali [1:23:40, 1:23:41]: As opposed to [1:23:42, 1:23:43]: All of this in the first reading. [1:23:44, 1:23:47]: So I just want to thank you for responding. [1:23:47, 1:23:54]: to to my questions. I know it was pretty lengthy and I carpet all of the council members on that. [1:23:55, 1:23:58]: So I would appreciate that we [1:23:59, 1:24:00]: Sort of spread this out. [1:24:01, 1:24:03]: And and I didn't see any comments. [1:24:03, 1:24:05]: Based on [1:24:05, 1:24:07]: The question that I asked was [1:24:07, 1:24:11]: But it all goes back to this conversation tonight. [1:24:11, 1:24:14]: So my message to the council is [1:24:19, 1:24:21]: My message to the council is [1:24:23, 1:24:25]: When you asked us to [1:24:26, 1:24:27]: Give you feedback. [1:24:28, 1:24:30]: I think this is what we must do. [1:24:31, 1:24:38]: We can't do it all here tonight in this first reading, even though we know that this budget has to be adopted and [1:24:38, 1:24:40]: Uh in December. [1:24:40, 1:24:42]: But I think if we [1:24:42, 1:25:02]: Take those opportunities to ask those questions um as we go along, then I think we have a better understanding. And I and I just wanna say that because I do have I have other questions, just like uh Councilman Blount, and you know me, so you know I have quite a few questions, but I'm gonna hold my questions. [1:25:02, 1:25:12]: and I will just send those to you. Just like before, uh I sent you a book and and you responded back to my book and I appreciate that. And so [1:25:13, 1:25:15]: My recommendation to the council is [1:25:15, 1:25:18]: Let's give you those questions. [1:25:18, 1:25:23]: Let's get'em back so we can finalize this. But in this first reading tonight. [1:25:23, 1:25:24]: Um [1:25:24, 1:25:27]: To drill and drill and drill [1:25:28, 1:25:30]: I don't know if we're gonna get what we need. [1:25:30, 1:25:38]: But I do appreciate this this dialogue, but I and I just want to say that, but I think it's it's a good habit and as you know, well [1:25:38, 1:25:50]: This is your first year, but this council know that this is a process I go through every year. I drill deep in and I ask the question and I appreciate your response back. And I do help other [1:25:50, 1:26:10]: Questions. Question based on your response to the first question. That's fine. All right. And and I will say, you know, as we go through this process, obviously, yes, this is the this is my first budget with you guys. Um that that and I've learned a lot. All right. And so part of that is making [1:26:10, 1:26:30]: some some um corrective actions based on some of the comments I've heard um as we develop 24's budget, FY24 budget, and realizing that probably what I need to do is add that, add after we go being the staff go through the budget and we come up with it, add that workshop so we can have this discussion. [1:26:29, 1:26:48]: with more time and and perspective and get everybody's situation there and then bring bring it back. So that's that's something I l I'm looking thinking about amending the next year's process to make that happen. And and let me just add this man if I may. Correct sir. That was one of the reasons uh I expressed to you one of my concerns [1:26:49, 1:26:51]: I felt that this process [1:26:52, 1:26:53]: should have started earlier. [1:26:54, 1:26:55]: You know, um [1:26:56, 1:26:57]: Хісториклі [1:26:57, 1:26:59]: We have had a budget retreat. [1:27:00, 1:27:03]: And this is where we took the deep dive. [1:27:03, 1:27:11]: Um but you chose not to do that. Now I know it is the council's authority to [1:27:12, 1:27:14]: set how we do this. [1:27:14, 1:27:17]: But uh no one objected to that. [1:27:17, 1:27:18]: Um [1:27:19, 1:27:22]: I know you looking like, you know, what am I talking about? [1:27:22, 1:27:28]: And I don't wanna quote the charter as far as the council's responsibility as far as [1:27:29, 1:27:36]: Who sets the procedure and the process, how we come to the budget? And I will say that. [1:27:36, 1:27:40]: The city manager is charged with preparing that. [1:27:40, 1:27:42]: But the council [1:27:42, 1:27:45]: set the policies as to how to. [1:27:45, 1:27:47]: But I don't want to get into that, but I just [1:27:47, 1:28:02]: I was a little concerned that we did not have the budget retreat because I felt we needed a little bit more time uh to do that, but you chose not to and so that here we are. But I'm okay with that because like I say, if you're willing to accept [1:28:02, 1:28:09]: um my fifty questions and and give me fifty answers, I I'm okay with that. [1:28:09, 1:28:13]: Okay. Thank you sir. May I just want to say this real quick for clarity. [1:28:14, 1:28:21]: That's not one question or one statement I've made tonight that haven't been made behind closed doors. [1:28:23, 1:28:30]: Everything that I'm saying to tonight has been said before. One of the things that I I I do. [1:28:31, 1:28:40]: If I have concerns, I'm a citizen in the city of Stockbridge first. If I have concerns, I've said them behind closed doors, and I'm saying them out front. [1:28:41, 1:28:44]: So I can tell you before every council m meeting. [1:28:45, 1:28:49]: One of the things that they can rest assured is I'm gonna ask the questions. [1:28:50, 1:28:52]: And I'm going to get answers. [1:28:52, 1:28:58]: And when something doesn't sound right, I'm going to tell you. That's how I operate. [1:28:59, 1:29:00]: Ms. Gamp, please. [1:29:00, 1:29:02]: Thank you. [1:29:03, 1:29:23]: Um I I wanna talk real quick about loss. I jotted down some notes. Um the last meeting that we had jointly with the cities, well it wasn't a official meeting, we w went down to the county. Um I did speak with two commissioners and stated that maybe we shouldn't vote on lost until after the elections. [1:29:23, 1:29:43]: And that was specifically because of this annexation. So I per I believe that it was voted on early on purpose. That's number one. Number two, because now we have to go back possibly and renegotiate because of the seven based off of GMA and other advice that we received. [1:29:43, 1:29:46]: um for that portion. Um [1:29:47, 1:30:01]: In regards to no comments on the emails from Mayor Mayor Pro Tem, there was a lot of questions and we received a lot of responses. So we actually received those answers, so I'm I'm taking that in. [1:30:03, 1:30:11]: If we look at the budget from twenty twenty until twenty twenty two, it has doubled. It did exactly what the financial advisor stated. [1:30:13, 1:30:14]: Again. [1:30:15, 1:30:22]: This is something that I discussed last year. I know it was campaign season, but it is what it is. It was the truth. [1:30:23, 1:30:28]: And I don't have any I I really appreciate our police department. I do. [1:30:30, 1:30:39]: Chief Train was doing an excellent job. I get it. As I've always said, I've always been for a police department. I just wanted to do things in a different manner. [1:30:41, 1:30:42]: We're here now. [1:30:43, 1:30:50]: I just wanna know that in twenty twenty one the budget increased by six million. [1:30:52, 1:31:04]: I'm sorry, in twenty twenty two the budget increased by six million. Now we're saying we're gonna increase it again additional six million. Is that in consideration of the annexation? [1:31:05, 1:31:06]: Or [1:31:07, 1:31:27]: And also have we taken to c into consideration what our public works department needs will be? Is that all a part of this or do we need to amend or do we some things need to switch up because of the most recent election? Were we prepared? [1:31:27, 1:31:28]: Prepared for it. [1:31:28, 1:31:48]: Good question. Um, thank you, ma'am. And and the answer to that is is yes and no. And so originally obviously when we did the hand handed the budget to you guys back in um October tenth, you know, we had no idea of whether or not the annexation was gonna pass or not pass, right? And so [1:31:49, 1:31:49]: You know. [1:31:50, 1:31:53]: airing obviously because obviously that's a fifty fifty shot in the dark. We [1:31:54, 1:32:13]: We budget accordingly. I will tell you that as we look towards When when you say budget accordingly, are you budgeting accordingly? Because we couldn't guess. We couldn't guess that it uh we I mean being prudent uh you know, obviously it's [1:32:14, 1:32:20]: Th it's just it's a short either way. Um we made I made the decision to go with what we are now. [1:32:21, 1:32:41]: Because we weren't sure whether or not we were gonna get annexation passed or not. Um, even though we did a very good job at getting information out there, that still was a fifty-fifty short in the dark. And so my level of confidentity was go with what we where we are today. And if we have to make any changes, we'll make those changes. [1:32:41, 1:32:53]: as as we move forward. Um rather than having to scale up and folks ask, well why are we so high and have to scale back? Well, scaling back is not our answer when you're developing a budget. [1:32:53, 1:33:07]: Um the key here is, you know, through this process will we have the revenues necessary to cover for the increase and realize this is one quick analysis I did the other day. [1:33:09, 1:33:12]: Um we brought in three new hotels. [1:33:15, 1:33:20]: We are bringing in three new Hilton. Okay. Um, you we got the Hilton [1:33:21, 1:33:24]: Garden and sweets on one thirty eight and nine seventy five. [1:33:24, 1:33:25]: The red woof in. [1:33:26, 1:33:27]: And the travel lounge. [1:33:28, 1:33:31]: Those were the only hotels I think that came in the city's part of the last session. [1:33:31, 1:33:40]: And the holiday. H me, excuse me, the holiday and across the street. Holiday and the suites, across the street on one thirty eighth. So you're talking about hotel motil too. So so those are three three hotels that came in. [1:33:40, 1:33:41]: Um [1:33:42, 1:33:47]: We had a myriad of mixed commercial that came into the city as well. [1:33:47, 1:33:48]: But [1:33:48, 1:33:49]: The [1:33:50, 1:33:54]: Yeah, the ho but the funny part with that is the hospital don't pay any taxes to us. [1:33:54, 1:33:55]: They're just a name. [1:33:56, 1:34:05]: They don't pay sales tax, they don't pay property tax, they're exempt from sales tax. I made sure I went back and looked and checked that out. Um [1:34:06, 1:34:07]: They don't [1:34:10, 1:34:10]: Yeah. [1:34:11, 1:34:15]: I d I don't know. I I I've I've talked to I've [1:34:15, 1:34:22]: I was spoken to a couple of financial experts just because I wanted to make sure what I was reading in the law was correct. [1:34:22, 1:34:28]: They are they are considered a five oh one C three non non profit organization under [1:34:29, 1:34:38]: under Piedmont and under the state law, those type of organizations, hotels, um, mental clinics and so forth are exempt from sales and use tax. [1:34:39, 1:34:39]: Um. [1:34:40, 1:34:41]: I I also [1:34:42, 1:34:46]: Am a believer. We hear it all the time that we always want to be ahead of the curve. I'd rather be [1:34:49, 1:35:00]: Um, as a business owner, we always wanna set our pri you it's no problem setting your price higher and reduce it, but it's a problem when you have it lower and have to go higher. [1:35:01, 1:35:08]: And so that's where I am right now. Those are m some of the concerns that I have. [1:35:08, 1:35:11]: Um, along with uh you know, fund balance. [1:35:12, 1:35:17]: Um we say it all the time. [1:35:18, 1:35:38]: But um I I do want some of those answers just to give you a heads up if we can kinda figure out what our public works what what is everyone gonna need because uh let's get it let's understand it's seven thousand plus residents, not necessarily seven thousand homes or area, right? [1:35:38, 1:35:40]: [5740.9, 5760.9]: Uh we we do need to understand that these are not necessarily rooftops. You know. Hopefully we got some people that got twelve twelve people in the house, I hope. But um yeah I what I'm saying to you is it's not the rooftops, it's the population and and I'll although I'm excited and I know it it was needed. [1:36:00, 1:36:05]: It's well needed to fill in those gaps. Um [1:36:06, 1:36:15]: I do wanna make sure that the services are provided with a class service as always. And I wanna know what that dollar amount is gonna be. [1:36:16, 1:36:17]: That's it. [1:36:17, 1:36:37]: And I will tell you, uh Councilmember Gantt too, um obviously our public work department is gonna have to go in those areas and rate those streets and rate the sidewalks. Um and based on those ratings, obviously they'll fall into the into the program based on where they are, um, and then they'll be [1:36:37, 1:36:47]: f you know, we'll roll them into the funding as part of the SPLOS or the L Meg program and that number should change as well in terms of our LMEG distribution will be on our new population. [1:36:47, 1:36:51]: In the next year, so that number will go up as well. Does splash change? [1:36:51, 1:36:52]: Sploss does not. [1:36:52, 1:36:53]: Splash is said. [1:36:56, 1:36:57]: Miss Barber, please. [1:36:58, 1:37:02]: Mr Gardner, um, did you finish your presentation? [1:37:03, 1:37:10]: Pretty much. I wanted to hold my questions until after you were done with the question. So with the thirty four percent [1:37:10, 1:37:15]: Um expenditure by departments for the police department. [1:37:16, 1:37:19]: Did you take into account the grants and [1:37:20, 1:37:25]: Other state federal funds, uh, the police department has been able to [1:37:26, 1:37:31]: Because they've done a great job of identifying grants. [1:37:31, 1:37:38]: So so that that thirty four percent is their operational cost outside of any grants that they may get, right? [1:37:38, 1:37:40]: Because we have to be [1:37:41, 1:37:56]: Once again, we're we're a grant is especially the grants we apply for are competitive, right? Um but um when we talk about their their share of the overall budget is thirty-four percent. [1:37:56, 1:38:01]: as it relates to the use of our our revenues, you know. [1:38:03, 1:38:15]: If they get a million dollar grant, that that helps, right? Because their budget is close to five to six million dollars. That's a sizable. But you know, a twenty five thousand dollar grant and a six million pocket pocket. [1:38:16, 1:38:36]: You know, it doesn't have that much of a dent in terms of bringing the percentage of what you know what they would get through other means down to a point where it's where it's where it makes a difference. So, you know, yes, d going after the grants we have to continue to go after those sources of funding. But when we talk about [1:38:36, 1:38:49]: their percentage of thirty-four percent of the general fund budget. You know, we still grants are not gonna cover all their salaries, not gonna cover all their equipment, it's not gonna cover all the cars, all the other stuff that they have to pay for. [1:38:50, 1:38:54]: But we could knock off chunks of that as we go. It's just prudent. [1:38:54, 1:39:01]: Um, but that's number just a reflection of what their overall cost, their budget cost is from the total buy. [1:39:02, 1:39:07]: That's all it is. Yeah. Thank you for that. And thank you also for pointing out the fact that [1:39:07, 1:39:09]: after this annexation. [1:39:10, 1:39:12]: us bringing in the seven thousand [1:39:13, 1:39:14]: as residents. [1:39:14, 1:39:15]: And how [1:39:16, 1:39:18]: That affects our loss. [1:39:18, 1:39:21]: percentage. Um I was thinking about that last night. [1:39:22, 1:39:25]: So we will need to go back before the border. [1:39:25, 1:39:26]: Commissioners. [1:39:26, 1:39:28]: And ask for. [1:39:28, 1:39:40]: Um that share of the seven thousand plus. That's what it's looking like. And and I know our attorneys are uh are verifying the information that we got from GMA. [1:39:41, 1:39:46]: GMA pretty much said that if your population to annexation grows by more than fifteen percent. [1:39:47, 1:39:49]: That that fifteen percent [1:39:49, 1:39:51]: Can't come from [1:39:51, 1:40:00]: the portion that the cities have negotiated with the county, it has to come from the county in which that percentage came from. So [1:40:02, 1:40:08]: We annexed in more than fifteen percent. It's around sixteen point something percent of our population was annexed in. [1:40:09, 1:40:10]: That number [1:40:11, 1:40:21]: I know, and we still roughly we're guessing between sixty s sixty six hundred and seven thousand. So I used the sixty six number in my calculations, right? Um [1:40:24, 1:40:30]: That number represent about two point seven five percent of Henry County's two hundred and forty thousand people population. [1:40:32, 1:40:33]: So hence [1:40:36, 1:40:42]: That might be the number we need to be talking about, right? That two point seven five percent of the sales taxes what we might be coming after. [1:40:43, 1:40:43]: You know [1:40:44, 1:40:47]: Going back to what we had discussed with them, population. [1:40:47, 1:40:57]: Right. And we ended up going on a mix of whatever that was we negotiated with them that kept us where we are was a mix of everything. Um [1:40:58, 1:41:18]: So that's a process we have to go through to try to get that from them. But first we want to make we we're verifying that, and not that I think that Rushi isn't a j good, great general counsel. I've worked with him for 20 years almost. Um but if Rushi says that that's what it is, it's probably what it is, and we just have to figure out the process. [1:41:18, 1:41:21]: process of going and getting the money and and then [1:41:22, 1:41:36]: Is the county gonna be amenable to it and what that's gonna look like? Well that's in terms of the loss. Yes. What about for public safety? Because those same agreed you'll be taking the same approach with public safety as well. [1:41:36, 1:41:41]: Yeah, so on the agenda tonight is the resolution for us to to um [1:41:42, 1:41:45]: asked to request the for the one [1:41:45, 1:42:01]: The one point nine oh four millage rate, um which is a half the year that they asked us to at the meeting we were at a month last month. But that is for current for that is for current residents of Stockorage. I'm speaking in terms of [1:42:01, 1:42:02]: The new [1:42:02, 1:42:05]: residents that have been annexed in. [1:42:06, 1:42:26]: Will you also be going back to the county to request to negotiate that percentage as well? Lost in public safety. Yeah. So I would believe the answer is yes. That number yes, and that no so that number will that percentage number will change. [1:42:26, 1:42:46]: Obviously, and and here's the fact that I know they're gonna say that okay, the election passed in 08 it on November 8th, and obviously there was only one more month left in the year. So hence we we'll pay you all for this amount of month. So I get that. The second half of the year, which they said we have to come. [1:42:45, 1:43:05]: Come back and request. Obviously, that number needs to reflect where we were under the 2020 census plus where we are with the annexation, what that percentage would be. Yes. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Sir. Go right ahead, Mr. Alexander. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate the presentation. I think we just re at common sense right now. [1:43:05, 1:43:25]: Lost we 7,000 residents came into the city that we're responsible for their public safety, their planning and zoning, and all of the above. So pretty much they understand that the public safety took weight off of them. The fact that we were able to put total personnel, 62%. [1:43:25, 1:43:45]: plus 50 plus officers on the street took weight off of them. It allowed them to redistribute those officers to outline areas. And I tell everybody this all the time. What we did and the courageous decision that we made made everybody in Henry County safer. Because those there's more officers patrolling and [1:43:45, 1:44:05]: Unincorporated areas than ever before. Whereas there was a shortage before, those officers are out there now, and the city police uh takes care of what we're doing. We've been focusing a lot tonight on what the expense side was. But there was a the the the very best thing that happened November. [1:44:05, 1:44:25]: The 8th? Well, there was a windfall of revenue that's attached to November the 8th when it comes to uh the total number of businesses coming into the city. As we talked about the hotel motel tax, all of the businesses, the medical uh around Piedmont Henry, including Piedmont Henry, in terms of their [1:44:25, 1:44:45]: business licensing in terms of um uh their planning and zoning and in terms of ex uh uh you know other services as well. So that is a big deal to what we're coming from to help offset bringing those residents in. They bring revenue because unlikely [1:44:45, 1:44:50]: You know, many people looked at the map and they did not understand you can look at it. [1:44:50, 1:45:10]: The Holiday Inn, which was pr probably the busiest hotel, uh bringing in the most hotel motel tax in the county, uh, right at 138, was not in the city, even though it's right there. It was not there. All of those accessory businesses that are in there, the restaurants, the uh all of that that was in there. [1:45:10, 1:45:13]: Uh you look at P. Mont Henry. [1:45:14, 1:45:34]: All of that medical that was along right there along uh Rock Quarry, the building right next to Pete Monthry, all of those doctors offices that were not there previously, those businesses are now in the city. All of those would generate revenue for us. So there was a reason that, you know, many [1:45:34, 1:45:54]: Many of us were out there knocking on doors and doing what's necessary in our private time to do that because we understood that there was a a real win bringing those residents into the city, uh, in addition to uh giving them an opportunity uh to vote uh in the upcoming elections. But um I want [1:45:54, 1:46:14]: To talk about that side right there in terms of the revenue that we're looking at uh bringing into the city with all of these businesses, different covenants. So certainly there will be some um research done and again attached to that, every last one of those 7,000 residents will be an increase in that public safety. [1:46:13, 1:46:32]: uh revenue that we would bring in in addition to the one point nine as Miss Barber has stated. Yeah, th they should count, yes. I think that's what she was saying, and I think we agree that they should count as part of the percentage. So that percentage should go beyond the one point oh nine. Um well, hold on. [1:46:35, 1:46:37]: Let me take a step back. I just realize I'm [1:46:38, 1:46:39]: I'm wrong. [1:46:40, 1:46:54]: The one point oh nine sales tax um property tax that was being paid, I think is being paid by those folks who are in the annexation area. [1:46:55, 1:46:56]: Um [1:46:57, 1:46:57]: No. [1:46:58, 1:46:58]: I'm wrong. [1:46:59, 1:47:19]: Right, because it would be going to them. It wouldn't be coming to us. So so every Henry County resident paid a paid taxes to Henry County. And they paid into the fire, the police, um, Parks and Rec. These were the S the based on SDS the just the the level of service, yes. So our portion for all of the residents. [1:47:19, 1:47:31]: Who live in Stockbridge makes up one point one point nine oh four. Now we gotta figure out what those seven thousand people who weren't part of it, which are probably close to [1:47:34, 1:47:37]: If if we make up that amount, it should be probably around the same [1:47:38, 1:47:58]: Um but we'll we'll definitely effort that number. We should be able to get what that what that would look like and go to them with a round number saying this is what you owe us. Yes. So yes. Absolutely. So uh I certainly appreciate that. It's kinda like, you know, uh in terms of future development as well. [1:47:58, 1:48:18]: Uh the three hundred acres that's coming in right around Flippin' Road, uh in that particular area where uh it's prime right there at six seventy five and I seventy five. We uh developments such as what we had at Jodico generates a tremendous amount of planning and zoning uh fees and revenue that were coming to the city. [1:48:18, 1:48:28]: city, all of that vacant land where we were basically at the point where we were running out of vacant land in the city brings a windfall to the city as well with future development, correct? [1:48:30, 1:48:50]: And there's and there's potential for an additional two to three three hundred acres coming into the city. And uh we're working with some folks now to make sure we finalize that on one of our major interstate corridors. Right. So I just it's so important that we deal with economic development and and and every time [1:48:50, 1:49:10]: Why are we talking about economic development so much? Because economic development drives what we're doing. And we talk about it, and I want you to say this one more time. The 2023 budget does not anticipate and increase no city tax, right? The 23 budget you presenting to us does not include a city tax. So everybody can hear that. [1:49:10, 1:49:11]: Loud and clearly. [1:49:11, 1:49:31]: Yeah. The the FY twenty twenty twenty three budget does not have any property tax from the city in their proper in in this budget. No. All right, thank you. Now I will tell you that you will what will happen is as a reflection of the county signing over that that rollback to us. [1:49:31, 1:49:42]: You'll see that in the budget obviously, but it won't be an a tax that the city has voted to impose. It'll be the rollback that comes that they were paying to Henry County for a service that Henry County no longer r render to them. [1:49:42, 1:49:55]: Yes. Ms. Ms. Gantt, I'm stand by, sir, please. Ms. Gantt, you had something to say. I I did. P Von Henry is considered a non profit organization and they have been tax exempt since nineteen ninety six. [1:49:57, 1:50:03]: Um, so I just looked that up. I d I d you know, I agree there are a lot of medical facilities around it. [1:50:04, 1:50:07]: But it is considered a non profit. Now our attorneys could um [1:50:08, 1:50:12]: You know, there are few tax exempt statuses. [1:50:12, 1:50:22]: uh which were all non profits, blood drop blood banks and stuff of that nature. So maybe our attorneys can look at that a little bit more in depth. Um [1:50:22, 1:50:29]: I I kinda cringe sometimes when we talk about taxes because if we're using fund balance, eventually it depletes. [1:50:29, 1:50:34]: Which we've already been advised that at some point we'll have to have a city property tax. [1:50:34, 1:50:40]: I'm not gonna shy away from that to the public or to any of our constituents, you know. [1:50:40, 1:50:45]: a at some point no one's gonna be happy about that. I don't want one. [1:50:46, 1:50:48]: I think we're taxed too much. [1:50:48, 1:50:52]: Across the board, federal and local, especially small businesses, we get [1:50:53, 1:50:57]: really hurt. We re we get really dinged and so I'm not here [1:50:58, 1:50:59]: To sugarcoat that [1:51:00, 1:51:05]: Really, to be honest, um, you know, we're we're taking from fun balance now. [1:51:06, 1:51:07]: We can't keep taking from it. [1:51:09, 1:51:13]: And although we annexed in some hotels, that's hotel motel tax. [1:51:14, 1:51:22]: A portion of it goes towards it. A portion of it goes towards that. And although we you know, and then even when we do it that way, there are certain things we can spend on. [1:51:22, 1:51:32]: Well three percent three percent of the eight goes to your general fund for use any kind of way. The rest of it is restricted. Right. It's restricted. [1:51:32, 1:51:33]: I just want [1:51:34, 1:51:49]: to be able to tell the truth. That's it. And I'm not saying we're not telling the truth, but I'm not gonna project something and make it all cloudy. I can't say that. I can I can say that we're a grown city, we're gonna be the best city that we possibly can be. [1:51:50, 1:51:51]: But at some point [1:51:52, 1:51:56]: based off of the fact that we have a police department, based off the fact that we have [1:51:56, 1:51:56]: Um [1:51:57, 1:51:58]: А к грун коммуніті. [1:51:59, 1:52:00]: I believe that [1:52:00, 1:52:18]: based off of financial advisor's advice that we will eventually have a city tax. And we're there's no need of us trying to convince it one way or another. Right now in that twenty twenty three budget it says we won't. Right. That's it. That's all I can do. Statutorily we couldn't do it any way we wanted to. [1:52:19, 1:52:19]: Correct. [1:52:20, 1:52:40]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Thank you. Um excuse me. Uh I I'm going to agree with all of that as far as the future, but what I really want to say is just thank you for your presentation. And Mayor Ford, I wanted to uh suggest that we move the agenda along. [1:52:39, 1:52:40]: Um [1:52:42, 1:53:00]: You know, I think we need to continue to ask our questions as we go through this process, but I just want us to to move the agenda along. Thank you. I appreciate uh Mr. Blount, do you have some last minute comments or yeah, just just the last comment. I just want to make it clear that we um [1:53:00, 1:53:06]: We you you just made a statement that there's no tax projection for twenty twenty three. There's not. [1:53:07, 1:53:10]: Stand by please. Go ahead, Mr Blount, please continue with statement. [1:53:10, 1:53:14]: When we do a rollback from the county of what is it one point nine oh four [1:53:15, 1:53:22]: When you roll back from the county, the rollback is simply that the city of Stockbridge doesn't pay that tax to the county anymore. [1:53:23, 1:53:29]: So when does the city pay that tax? We're not gonna pay it in twenty twenty three because we're gonna take that [1:53:30, 1:53:33]: fund balance and cover that tax base of one point. Well [1:53:34, 1:53:53]: Well so so the way it works, no i i y you you so the residence in Henry County was paying for their police portion of the police service at one point oh nine. Once once we started our police department, that became the duplicative services and or what they call double taxation. [1:53:53, 1:54:01]: So Henry County at some point, whether they liked it or not, would have been breaking the law if they continued saying we weren't getting our money back. But we won't talk that. [1:54:01, 1:54:19]: Once they decide to give that money to us, obviously that mut that amount will go away on the on the residents' next next tax bill. It will be gone. The Helena County will pay us obviously for the fact that we're providing services to the residents for this year. [1:54:19, 1:54:25]: But as of the next tax year, because remember this when we were discussing this, taxes are collected and arranged. [1:54:26, 1:54:34]: That'll go away. The city if the city doesn't impose it, it will go away. It will be a reduction to all the residents at one point. [1:54:34, 1:54:36]: Well let me ask you a question. [1:54:37, 1:54:50]: If there's any rollback from the county, how would the city of Stockbridge retain that money back from the citizens? You would have to impose a property tax. And that's exactly what I'm trying to get to. You would have to. So [1:54:50, 1:55:10]: We w anytime there's a service is done that we do, and I get that we cannot they cannot get you can't have double taxing from the city and and and the county for the single services that is rendered. And I get that the citizens of Stockbridge have been have paid taxes into the services as of a certain [1:55:10, 1:55:23]: certain date and certain time. So when we say we can throw up the flags and let the balloons go and say there's no tax for twenty twenty three, but when we talk about sustainability for the city of Stockbridge, we have to talk tax [1:55:24, 1:55:44]: Because of everything that's on the table and because of the rollback has to be paid back into our budget. All of these things. So we can throw the balloons in 2023, but I'm trying to say transparency is don't well let's not talk twenty twenty-three and then you know and and and and hip hip parade. We got some serious financial decisions happening. [1:55:44, 1:55:47]: has to be made in the city beyond twenty twenty three. That is correct. [1:55:48, 1:55:53]: Mayor, I just need to respond to that quickly. Okay, we'll make this last one so we can move on to a public hearing. [1:55:54, 1:56:00]: I I I just wanna understand one thing and I and I just said it again. There's no tax city tax in twenty twenty three. [1:56:01, 1:56:20]: What it really amounts to is that the citizens are concerned about what's coming out of their pocketbook. That 1.9%, they've been paying it forever and a day, right? It's not a it's not a new tax. That's not something that we're imposing upon them. They've already been paying the 1.9%. [1:56:21, 1:56:41]: Every year. So from a citizen standpoint, they will see no difference because they've already been paying that one point nine to the county and they will not see any difference in that. That is what we're saying. So no, the city is not imposing the one point nine. They've already been paying the one point nine. [1:56:40, 1:56:54]: That is what needs to uh folks need to understand. You know, so that is uh the the most important part and and I just want everybody to understand one thing, i i the final thing. [1:56:54, 1:57:14]: Listen, governments from the federal government, the state government, and local government, nobody up here can tell you what the tax is going to be three years from now. You ask the state of Georgia, are y'all gonna raise taxes next year? Could they tell you? No. If you ask Henry County, are you gonna raise taxes next year? [1:57:14, 1:57:29]: year could they tell you no if you ask the federal government are you gonna raise taxes next year no they do exactly what we're doing and Mr. Gardner explained they do a budget they cut they look at the what the revenues are determined to be [1:57:29, 1:57:49]: They look at what uh they need to do in terms of what the taxation to be able to set the tax rate. They don't go five years down the road. They go to what needs to be done right now. That's what we're doing. Next year, when Henry County has their millage rate meeting, they will decide whether twelve point seven three three is sufficient. [1:57:49, 1:57:54]: They will increase the rate. [1:57:55, 1:58:00]: I I asked Mr. Gardner, Mayor. I asked Mr. Gardner. [1:58:00, 1:58:03]: That our financial advisor come here tonight. [1:58:04, 1:58:07]: Because these elected officials, we're gonna tell you what we want you to hear. [1:58:08, 1:58:11]: Бо воені по тіл і вот а факт із. [1:58:12, 1:58:13]: That's what I want you all to hear. [1:58:14, 1:58:18]: I want you all to hear the facts. We are not financial advisors up here. [1:58:19, 1:58:24]: And this is why I wanted the financial advisor present because what they're going to say [1:58:24, 1:58:44]: With their mouths cut the same way, is gonna be different from what you're hearing right now tonight. I can guarantee you that. All right, so otherwise, uh is that something that uh we can possibly do for the next uh reading to have'em here if that's a necessary thing to do? If it if it's to issue the council, you don't want Mr. Ward. [1:58:44, 1:59:00]: This is a public hearing, ladies and gentlemen. So I want to open it up and since it is a public hearing. And so I'm going to start on my left, which is over here. Any comments, uh, any comments, positive comments uh for on public hearing over here in my far uh left side. [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: Anybody in the mirror at all? [1:59:05, 1:59:06]: Yes, ma'am. [1:59:06, 1:59:10]: You c you had you have to come out to the podium. Come up to the podium and uh [1:59:10, 1:59:14]: It's re re yeah, it's rubbing to the budget now. Well but ma'am, it's re [1:59:15, 1:59:16]: Oh. [1:59:16, 1:59:17]: Mm-hmm. [1:59:17, 1:59:37]: Yeah, name and address please. This is this is this is a four. This is like four is a positive comment, not a negative comment. This is just a name and address please. Oh Amenta Jones, six twelve Tahoe Trail in Stockwich, Georgia. Okay. I'm in the city limits. Okay. When you were talking about GMA, what did that mean? Georgia municipal [1:59:37, 1:59:41]: Okay. That's what it is. Georgia Municipal Association. Okay. [1:59:42, 1:59:52]: Uh okay. Okay, any any uh positive comments on the far uh my far right? Okay. Uh okay, any comments on the negative side if it need be on my far left. [1:59:53, 1:59:54]: In the middle. [1:59:55, 2:00:11]: Far right. All right. On that note there are no comments. So um close the public hearing. This is just the first reading, so it doesn't take a vote that I know of at this point. And so we'll move on to our next uh agenda item. Which brings us to the uh [2:00:11, 2:00:31]: Uh number eight actually a comprehensive uh this we're still in the public hearings phase though. Comprehensive plan amendment case CP two zero two two two dash zero five. John R. Landers Jr. applicant requests a comprehensive plan uh amendment to change the future land use description uh designation, excuse me, a parcel S twenty seven. [2:00:31, 2:00:51]: Senior Heritage Trail from a medium density residential to heavy industrial to allow for industrial development. The property contains 1.962 acres, plus or minus acres, and is located in land. [2:00:51, 2:01:00]: Plan lot thirty-six of District twelve within the Stockbridge City Limits, presented by Mr. Randon uh Ryan Anderson, please. [2:01:00, 2:01:20]: Okay. The applicant up the applicant operates a house moving business from the property where he parks vehicles and stores business equipment outdoors. He proposes to continue the same use but to construct a small modular building on the property in compliance with UDC section three point two twenty to store his equipment. LI districts are local. [2:01:20, 2:01:31]: Located to the north and east of the property. Modular buildings are allowed both in L I and HI districts. Memorial Park and the City Transfer Station are located to the south of the property. [2:01:34, 2:01:54]: Uh the number of acres on the site first address. The address for the site is 400 it was 443 MLK Senior Heritage Trail. It's 1.962 acres. The property characteristics is the outdoor storage of business equipment and vehicles for a house moving company. The current land use designation is medium density residential. [2:01:54, 2:01:57]: Here's the aerial photo of the site right here. [2:02:00, 2:02:06]: If you can see my cursor or right there. Right there is the um is the city's transfer station. [2:02:07, 2:02:12]: Across the street, across where Quarry Road is the ready mix storage. [2:02:13, 2:02:22]: I mean the Red Mix Concrete Company and uh the MLK Senior Heritage Trail and Memorial Park is the south of the of the facility. [2:02:24, 2:02:44]: Here is a picture of the um an aerial photo of the applicant's business. You can see the equipment stored outside. It's stored outside on a um a suburban residential property uh which gives the property a legally non-conforming status. Um the reason why the applicant wants to go to to light industrial because he proposes to build a modular building on the property. [2:02:44, 2:02:48]: And right now he can't expand or increase the nonconformity of the lot. [2:02:53, 2:02:59]: The City of Stockbridge's current comprehensive plan lists the property as medium density residential. [2:02:59, 2:03:10]: However, the current future land use is incompatible with the requested zoning. Therefore the applicant is seeking a comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use density designation from medium density to heavy industrial. [2:03:13, 2:03:33]: The surrounding land uses. Property to the north, like I mentioned earlier, you got the Redamix USA Stockbridge Concrete Plant, and its current designation is Light Industrial. South of the property, you got Memorial Park. Its current land use designation is park recreation and conservation. Property to the east of the subject property is vacant land, and this is [2:03:33, 2:03:42]: Current land use designation is public institution. Public institutional and to the west of the property you got vacant land and it's medium density residential. [2:03:45, 2:03:59]: The future land use uh four hundred forty three senior heritage trail. Across the street on Rock Quarry Road, you have heavy industrial and one of the recomm recommendations by staff is to use Rock Quarry Road as a boundary to keep all the industrial [2:04:00, 2:04:02]: Property East. [2:04:02, 2:04:10]: Keep out the light industrial uses east. I mean, keep out heavy industrial use east of ro of Rock Quarry Road and not to have um heavy industrial [2:04:12, 2:04:14]: To be included on this side of of Rock Rory Road. [2:04:15, 2:04:26]: The right here if you look at my cursor, that's the um the subject property right here. And right across you see, you have light industrial land uses and you have light industrial land uses over there. [2:04:27, 2:04:47]: Uh the proposed development is not consistent with the comprehensive plan future land use designation of medium density residential. Therefore, the applicant has requested a comprehensive plan amendment via CP twenty twenty-two oh five to change the property land use designation to heavy industrial, which would allow the proposed metal building to be to be built. Once again, [2:04:47, 2:05:07]: You have to remember that the subject property is currently a non-conforming land use. He's storing line, heavy well, he's storing industrial property on a suburban residential land district. The property requested zoning districts are not compatible with the list of permitted use, permitted zoning districts that are found in the comprehensive plan to allow for. [2:05:07, 2:05:27]: Proposed zoning, the applicant has requested the rezoning of the property from SR to HI Heavy Industrial to allow for the building to be built. The rezoning will be heard concurrently with this case. The proposed heavy industrial land use designation would not be compatible with the other surrounding areas that are comprised of light industrial and residential uses. [2:05:27, 2:05:33]: There are heavy industrial uses in the greater vicinity. It is separated distinctly by Rock Quarry Road. [2:05:34, 2:05:54]: Maintaining the current land use would deny the applicant for developing his proposed projects. The applicant's proposed rezoning is not feasible and compatible with the surrounding community since the area's primary light industrial and residential. And also the subject property is next door to the transfer station, so it probably would would never be developed as a residential property. [2:05:54, 2:05:56]: Yeah. [2:05:56, 2:06:16]: The proposed comp plan amendment project will result in a negative impact on the overall community because it will introduce heavy industrial uses into our area that is predominantly light industrial and residential. Staff recommend keeping the heavy industrial uses to the east of Raw Courry Road and not allow such uses to encroach into the area. [2:06:16, 2:06:17]: Yeah. [2:06:18, 2:06:36]: Uh the staff report has d demonstrated that the comprehensive plan amendment via CP twenty-two oh five will not be desirable for the subject property. As a result, planning and zoning staff recommends denial of CP twenty-two oh five to heavy industrial land use. However, staffs recommend approval with condition. [2:06:37, 2:06:47]: Recommends approval of light industrial land use in conjunction with the requested rezoning of the property via R Z twenty two oh six to allow for the applicant's proposed use. [2:06:51, 2:06:55]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Do you have a question? Yeah, I have a question. Is the advocate in here? [2:06:55, 2:06:56]: Yes, sir. [2:06:56, 2:07:16]: Well I got a question for you. Um when this use as is was permitted, how was it permitted to how how was it permitted and with outside of the uh actual land use? Uh it was permitted before we adopt adopted the new uh unified development code so we to give [2:07:16, 2:07:34]: gives it a a legally non-conforming status. A legally non-con uh conforming status mean that there's a use that is not is not a the the use should be industrial, but right now it's is he's using something that's he's using a, I can't explain it right now. [2:07:35, 2:07:50]: He has an incompatible land use upon the in a s suburban residential district and in and it incur in a in normal situ in normal circumstances that would not be allowed. But because he was there before the adoption of the UDC, he's legally nonconforming. [2:07:50, 2:07:56]: Grandfather So so prior to the UDC he was compatible to the land use? Is that what you're saying? Yes. Mm-hmm. [2:07:59, 2:08:19]: Clarification. Uh good evening, council members. So the use was on the property prior to the code going into into in place. Um we have several properties that have either been there for years and years and years and years and have never done any additional either things on the property like needed to get permits. [2:08:19, 2:08:37]: permits or change ownership on a business license, those types of things. It is considered a legally non-conforming use, which means that he cannot build anything on that lot of an industrial nature unless it goes through the rezoning process. And that's the process that he is requesting before you now. [2:08:38, 2:08:51]: Then my question is then the the proposed uses that he's talking about, have you seen any plans on the proposed usage? Uh how how uh or anything pertaining to that after the uh b uh after the UDC was implemented? [2:08:52, 2:09:03]: No, we we have a plan for a a twenty four hundred square foot building. Um however the the building the building owner or property owner does have to bring the property [2:09:04, 2:09:09]: into compliance with the current code for the industrial uh designation for zoning. [2:09:09, 2:09:12]: So they still would have to in order to build anything. [2:09:12, 2:09:19]: they would have to pave it. They would have to put in the landscaping necessary in order to be able to to develop on this property. [2:09:21, 2:09:25]: And so the land usage would just be whatever industrial uses he wants. [2:09:26, 2:09:41]: Well the the land use is for our comprehensive plan, which currently is showing as um low density uh and parks. So if coming in, he can't do industrial in a land use that is parks or recreation. [2:09:41, 2:09:50]: So part of the wr process for a comprehensive plan amendment is to change it to industrial, which would allow this zoning to happen in light industrial. [2:09:51, 2:10:03]: Okay.'Cause r right now I'm I'm looking at on on that s if that's the same site I'm talking about, the one right across the bridge on the north side uh south side, I'm sorry, south side of uh [2:10:03, 2:10:06]: uh on the south side of um [2:10:07, 2:10:21]: Emma King Harriet's Trail, is that correct? That right there on the corner of Rock Quarry and and Emma King Harriet's Trail that butts up to the the back end butts up to the transfer station. Yes. And that's the project. [2:10:24, 2:10:26]: Okay. [2:10:27, 2:10:30]: With with the way that land is configurated. [2:10:30, 2:10:35]: We have the right away to anything on coming out on [2:10:36, 2:10:38]: The Heritage Trail side, is that correct? [2:10:39, 2:10:46]: So if anything that they that would be built there for future use would have to come out on Rock Quarry. Is that correct? [2:10:46, 2:11:03]: For this particular site, yes, they have access from Rock Quarry. Or from from uh MLK uh heritage for this particular property. The their interest now is M L K Heritage Trail? Yes, sir. And so that would be the only interest and exit even if they go into high density and bill? [2:11:04, 2:11:10]: That would be the only entrance and exit is right there. Correct. That's the only access they have to uh uh infrastructure road. [2:11:10, 2:11:14]: So but at this point you have nothing that's showing why what they're [2:11:14, 2:11:34]: Far as any plans. No. Do you have plans for any after I mean the applicant definitely can come up and answer that. Um but we do have a rezoning case that follows this that talks a little bit more about that. But the applicant, whatever is built there, has to meet the current code. So they would bring in plans, they we'd be reviewing it based on um those [2:11:34, 2:11:36]: criteria under light industrial. [2:11:37, 2:11:38]: Okay. [2:11:39, 2:11:42]: Report Tim, go ahead, please. Thank you. Um [2:11:43, 2:11:54]: Mr. Anderson and Mrs. Carter, thank you for that presentation. The problem that I have with with this is the future. [2:11:55, 2:11:56]: Um [2:11:58, 2:12:01]: This proposal does not coincide with [2:12:02, 2:12:11]: the future of M. L. King Harris's trail and that residential community that's in that area. [2:12:12, 2:12:18]: There's also a master park plan that is moving forward. [2:12:19, 2:12:26]: that does not coincide um you know with the future plan [2:12:26, 2:12:33]: Uh mister Anderson, uh even though he's grandfather to a certain extent, but you laid out [2:12:33, 2:12:35]: The facts [2:12:35, 2:12:36]: Why? [2:12:36, 2:12:38]: It should not be [2:12:38, 2:12:42]: Uh it's it's it's medium density, residential. [2:12:43, 2:12:45]: But but my emphasis [2:12:45, 2:12:47]: is on the future [2:12:47, 2:12:48]: Planned. [2:12:49, 2:13:01]: for ML King Heritage Trail. And you have a community there that even have issues with the transfer station. And there is um a movement of foot [2:13:02, 2:13:04]: To even move that [2:13:04, 2:13:11]: across the street as you indicated that is designated for a heavy industrial. [2:13:12, 2:13:13]: That's the future. [2:13:14, 2:13:19]: So and and and I didn't wanna say that I live in that area, but I do. [2:13:20, 2:13:21]: And so [2:13:21, 2:13:23]: I cannot see. [2:13:24, 2:13:25]: Um [2:13:26, 2:13:27]: Any [2:13:27, 2:13:29]: construction any [2:13:29, 2:13:31]: type of business of that nature. [2:13:32, 2:13:34]: Coming into this neighborhood. [2:13:34, 2:13:35]: Um [2:13:36, 2:13:48]: And I'm not gonna sort of s you know, speak a lot. I'll give my other council members uh an opportunity to speak. But the emphasis that I wanna make here is that it does not fit into [2:13:48, 2:13:52]: The land you've planned for the future of that area. [2:13:54, 2:13:56]: Because if you allow that to come, you [2:13:57, 2:13:59]: Then you're opening up. [2:13:59, 2:14:06]: the door for other developments that will come in under that same authority. [2:14:06, 2:14:08]: And and I'm I'm opposed to that. [2:14:09, 2:14:12]: So and I may have some other comments later but [2:14:13, 2:14:15]: I'm I just want to emphasize [2:14:15, 2:14:17]: That it does not [2:14:18, 2:14:19]: Coincide. [2:14:19, 2:14:21]: With the future. [2:14:21, 2:14:23]: That those folks that live in that community [2:14:25, 2:14:28]: It does not coincide with the vision of [2:14:29, 2:14:34]: that those homeowners, those property owners have that lives in that community. [2:14:36, 2:14:38]: I cannot express that. [2:14:38, 2:14:39]: More. [2:14:40, 2:14:44]: That you have property owners, you have folks that live in that neighborhood. [2:14:45, 2:14:47]: And they do not want to see [2:14:47, 2:14:48]: Heavy. [2:14:49, 2:14:52]: industrial coming next door to where they live. [2:14:52, 2:14:56]: Mr. Thank you, Mayor. Ms. Al Zanaguaya, please. [2:14:56, 2:15:16]: Uh yes, sir. And uh, you know, this to me is the perfect example of why the ballot initiative was so important on November the eighth, because Mayor Pro Tem would be the district council member for that area and you gotta understand the person closest to that [2:15:16, 2:15:36]: Kind of understands it. He outlined exactly what the future looks like with us in terms of expanding Memorial Park. You know, it's undesirable that the transfer station is there, and that access to have heavy industrial that's certainly not the vision of uh where we're trying. [2:15:36, 2:15:56]: To go uh in this particular area. And I think this is where uh Henry County has really had the advantage over us in terms of a discussion like this would have already taken place with the district commissioner. The district commissioner would have made their thoughts known up front, it would have saved us. [2:15:56, 2:16:16]: A lot of time coming here and understanding that this is counter to the vision of where the city is trying to go. So understand that, you know, I understand we'll hear from the residents later on, but with all the monies that we spent for the park and rec um master plan and all of that, this area. [2:16:16, 2:16:24]: area is certainly not uh that would not be in keeping with what uh the direction that we're going in. [2:16:25, 2:16:30]: Ms. Cann, go ahead please. Thank I just have a question uh about legal nonconforming use. [2:16:31, 2:16:34]: Can you tell me uh you mentioned that [2:16:35, 2:16:40]: the actual particular piece of property had been transferred from business to business to business, maybe? [2:16:41, 2:16:53]: Did that happen or this has been one business the entire time? This has been on the property for for years. Uh I know the applicants can speak to the time frame, but [2:16:53, 2:17:13]: What typically happens with a a a nonconforming use, especially when we have a new code change, is whenever they come in to get a permit, a license, anything that requires city review, then we have to look at the totality of the projects and state, if we give you this permit or this license, are we continuing the nonconformance of this? [2:17:13, 2:17:25]: pri property because it's currently residential. It's zoned residential. I was about to ask. It is it is actually zoned residential. That's right. At what point? Because I remember receiving [2:17:25, 2:17:27]: [8247.5, 8248.8]: It was an issue. [2:17:29, 2:17:31]: To have tractor trailer [2:17:31, 2:17:38]: trailers parked on that particular piece of property. So at what point did it become legal non conforming use? [2:17:38, 2:17:58]: It's just non conform. That means that it can continue as is, but if anything changes'cause we won't stop a pro project it's as soon as we change the code and say you have to move off this lot and so move on. So are you saying trucks can park on a residential piece of property? No, they can't. That's been going on forever. So but what have we [2:17:58, 2:18:16]: done about this is part of that process. The applicant is coming in to say, okay, I'd like to make sure that I can meet the requirements of the current code. And this is the process by where it whereby that happened. Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm saying that trucks have been on this property illegally. [2:18:17, 2:18:18]: For how long? [2:18:19, 2:18:21]: And what has the city done about it? [2:18:22, 2:18:34]: The applicant can speak on that. This is the comprehensive land use plan amendment. Um and then the rezoning will get into a little more detail about the project itself. But this is a residential piece of property. [2:18:34, 2:18:37]: So what do we do usually when [2:18:38, 2:18:42]: And maybe I I done switched my lawyer gears, excuse me, Mayor and Council. [2:18:43, 2:18:50]: Well but attorney again is speaking at this point. At what point what do we do? [2:18:51, 2:18:55]: when um something's on a piece of property [2:18:56, 2:18:58]: And it's not allowed. [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: What do we normally do? [2:19:01, 2:19:21]: Well, we will go in and have code enforcement address it. But this particular property um came to us just as a result of this particular request. So we're dealing with it as it has come to us. Is he a new owner? No, he is not. Okay. But he is looking to get a permit, which is the trigger. He cannot get [2:19:21, 2:19:34]: permit to build on the lot and so this is a process whereby he can it is at the discretion of this council to determine whether he can do that or not. What do you what does your note say in regards to this property in the past? [2:19:35, 2:19:55]: In regards to code enforcement or anything of that nature. I remember this being an issue. I just don't quite understand. It hasn't been an issue since I've been with the city. I've been with the city about a year and a half now. And you haven't seen anything, any notes on this at all? I haven't. But we can, you know, talk with the applicant a little bit and ask him some questions about his history on the property. Okay. [2:19:55, 2:20:02]: Okay. Thank you. May Ma Mayor Ford before the applicant come up, if there's no one step stand by. Mr. Alexander. [2:20:02, 2:20:22]: I just wanna follow up on what Miss Gantt said and I think thank you for that, because in essence what has been going on is an illegal use has been taking place at this location for undetermined amount of time. So in actually uh at this point, I think what you said pretty much was that the action brought [2:20:22, 2:20:37]: forth to us for this permit has brought that to our attention. But it nevertheless it has brought it to our attention where something uh can be done and something should be done. So we will continue with this process. [2:20:37, 2:20:38]: Thank you. [2:20:38, 2:20:45]: Mm the member for Tem Guay, please. Uh and and I'm gonna just piggyback on where Ms. Gantt was going. Um [2:20:46, 2:20:47]: It appears that [2:20:48, 2:20:52]: This property has been in violation for years. [2:20:53, 2:20:55]: And and and my issue is with [2:20:56, 2:20:57]: The city [2:20:57, 2:20:58]: and code enforcement. [2:20:59, 2:21:03]: It it appears that we would not be here [2:21:03, 2:21:07]: Unless the applicant wanted to um [2:21:08, 2:21:10]: Grow, I guess in other words. [2:21:11, 2:21:15]: My issue and concern with code enforcement is that [2:21:19, 2:21:20]: This [2:21:20, 2:21:21]: Property [2:21:21, 2:21:24]: should have been cited before. [2:21:26, 2:21:30]: If there were trucks parked on his property. [2:21:30, 2:21:32]: Out of compliance. [2:21:33, 2:21:34]: Being proactive. [2:21:35, 2:21:37]: Mrs. Carter, this is the issue that I have. [2:21:38, 2:21:38]: With [2:21:39, 2:21:40]: Staff. [2:21:41, 2:21:41]: Not [2:21:41, 2:21:44]: Rad in the community. [2:21:45, 2:21:46]: To see [2:21:47, 2:21:48]: These kind of issues. [2:21:51, 2:22:05]: So I just want to piggyback on that. If I can respond uh I'm I'm sorry. I and I don't mean no ill will to to the gentleman and I I I understand he has a business and he's trying to grow his business, but please understand [2:22:05, 2:22:11]: you know, where we're coming from. But I understand you're a business owner, you're trying to grow. I get that. [2:22:12, 2:22:14]: Mayor I yeah. [2:22:21, 2:22:22]: Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [2:22:30, 2:22:31]: Just dynamics and doing it [2:22:35, 2:22:38]: Ms. Johnson, I have a question for you, please. [2:22:38, 2:22:44]: Um w when was this w when was this property purchased? [2:22:45, 2:22:46]: To be used for this use. [2:22:49, 2:22:53]: So can you come to the podium? [2:22:54, 2:23:14]: Uh my name is John Landers Jr. and I am the applicant. I'm not the current owner of the property. About approximately five years ago I rented this property and I've been developing it, straighten it up, gravel the the fix the fences, that kind of stuff, so that I could park my equipment on the property. [2:23:14, 2:23:34]: property and the uh aerial photograph shows the equipment that I have on the property right now. So you purchased the property five years ago? I have not purchased the property. All of this is because I do want to purchase the property. So I have a land agreement to buy the property from the current owners and I [2:23:34, 2:23:38]: I wanted to to move onto the property permanently. [2:23:38, 2:23:49]: But I wanted to do it legally. So and since we are not it was since we're residential and they told me that we're residential just recently when I w asked them about uh buying the property. [2:23:50, 2:23:54]: Uh what I wanted was to rezone it correctly. [2:23:54, 2:24:07]: As soon as we get it rezoning, I'm gonna purchase it. So for rezone it first. So for five years you've been doing commercial use on it for as your equipment? I've been parking my equipment. I've had two tractor trailers. [2:24:07, 2:24:16]: So that I that I keep there that's mostly out on the job sites, but occasionally they're in there. Got you. So I'm saying for five years you've been doing commercial use. [2:24:16, 2:24:22]: Yeah, property. Right. Have you gotten any permits within those five years to do commercial use on those properties? No. [2:24:23, 2:24:27]: So in five years you've been doing commercial use on a property that has not been permitted [2:24:27, 2:24:47]: And yet you still don't own the property, you just decided to to do commercial use on it. Is that what you rented the property for this use? But you did nothing with the city of Stockbridge in order that you would use it for commercial uses and and no permits or anything has been issued in five years. Not in the case. And I think that's where we kind of have a disconnect because if it had done been five years. [2:24:47, 2:24:50]: years if it was done five years and your usage [2:24:50, 2:24:58]: would have been to get permits for that usage, then you would have found out five years ago that that use wasn't permitted. And so that's not [2:24:59, 2:25:19]: Maybe there's some fault that c code enforcement hadn't done that, but I think that that's the fault of the anybody that starts a business, you wanna make sure you got permits to operate that business. My business is actually in Henry County and I have a business license in Henry County but not in Stockbridge. But anytime you do business in any city, there's a point besides the point to do business yes [2:25:19, 2:25:30]: Yes, I am trying to get in compliance. That's what my goal is here, is to get into compliance. It's to expand a use that you've been doing. [2:25:31, 2:25:37]: that you haven't been not ever been permitted to do. That's you're coming to us to get an expansion of something that you haven't been permitted to do. [2:25:38, 2:25:43]: And so I I think that I think that with that being said, that I'm I'm ready to make a decision on that. [2:25:44, 2:25:52]: All right. Uh it uh let's see here. Uh any other any questions applicant is here. Any questions for the applicant, anybody? [2:25:53, 2:25:54]: Yeah [2:25:55, 2:25:57]: Okay, so this is actually um [2:25:57, 2:26:00]: Anything else, sir, before it's actually a public hearing. [2:26:01, 2:26:15]: And so I have to open up, but then before I do that, any any other comments that you want to bring to the council? Other than the transfer station is around two thirds of the property. Mm-hmm. And they have tractor trailers going in and out every day. [2:26:15, 2:26:28]: And as far as anybody knows, you know, there's I got covers across the fence to block visual looking in. But um, you know, I'm just looking for a place to park my equipment. [2:26:29, 2:26:38]: And I wanna buy this piece of property and continue using it like I have been for the last five years and get whatever permits and whatnot that I need to have. [2:26:38, 2:26:40]: In order to do that. [2:26:41, 2:26:51]: Okay. So it's a public hearing, so I'm gonna open it up for any uh positive comments on my far left over here. Uh any any positive comments. Anybody nothing there? Anyone in the middle? [2:26:52, 2:26:58]: Far right. Okay. Any p any comments against or negative per se in this aspect on the far left? [2:26:59, 2:27:00]: In the middle. [2:27:01, 2:27:02]: Okay. Yes, ma'am. [2:27:03, 2:27:06]: Okay, come on up in uh name and address, please. [2:27:09, 2:27:12]: You have up to ten minutes, uh not that you'll take that long, I'll s imagine. [2:27:13, 2:27:21]: Mayor and Council, you know I'm a woman of few words. My name is Diane D. Miller. Uh I reside at 804 Rum Hill Court. [2:27:22, 2:27:31]: I am the owner of the Greenfront Cafe. So three years ago I had to come before you and also ask for a permission in using the building. [2:27:32, 2:27:38]: The Greenfront Cafe had been in operation for sixty years, however, it had not been zoned to use commercially. [2:27:38, 2:27:52]: I had asked for uh a variance and uh I was granted the uh change of the zoning. Uh it was consistent with how it had been used and I will tell you that I am now a very humble daughter of the area. [2:27:53, 2:28:13]: And the community is a community unlike any other that I see here in Stockbridge. We have been talking for years and years about developing this area. Even there's been talk for since I can remember about moving the transfer station. Again, making this community someplace that is um friendly for family. [2:28:13, 2:28:29]: As I'm there lovingly restoring the Greenfront Cafe, when I go by, neighbors come by, they walk the streets, they're talking, they're out with their families. I cannot see this as being rezoned to light industrial in that area. [2:28:30, 2:28:37]: Also living in the area, Martin Luther King Heritage Senior Trail, right? This is our heritage area. [2:28:37, 2:28:41]: If we are looking to an area that we are going to proudly [2:28:41, 2:28:45]: Спік аз бисторик арія. [2:28:45, 2:28:46]: Having [2:28:46, 2:28:49]: light industrial in the middle does not [2:28:50, 2:28:56]: It heavy, heavy. I I'm sorry. The recommendation from staff I thought was to grant light, right? [2:28:56, 2:28:57]: But light [2:28:58, 2:29:01]: Heavy, medium, anything industrial just is not consistent. [2:29:02, 2:29:03]: And as we continue to grow. [2:29:04, 2:29:05]: Having the [2:29:06, 2:29:21]: Trails placed in the area as we have more things that would be walkable and we're inviting I I get I get buses of people coming right now. The the Greenfront Cafe's not even open. They come because we are part of the um Department of Tourism. [2:29:22, 2:29:36]: Again, that's just not consistent with having this industrial youth. So I ask you all, uh I believe on behalf of the other community members that may be a little too shy to come up and speak, um, I ask you this is not the right thing for this community. [2:29:38, 2:29:51]: Okay. Yes. Than th yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it. I don't think there's any questions for per or not oh you do have a question for? Go right, please. So uh thank you, Miss Miller. So you have other community members here with you? [2:29:51, 2:30:03]: There are other community members here. Yes, that is correct. Well they don't they they're you said they're in two shot, could they stand? I I I cannot speak for them, but if they would care to stand, I'm sure that they would feel the same way. [2:30:03, 2:30:04]: Okay. [2:30:04, 2:30:15]: All right, thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate that. Thank you. Okay. Anybody else? Any uh comments against uh in the middle? Uh far right. [2:30:16, 2:30:26]: Okay. On that note the public hearing is closed. All right. And so um Mr Mr. Addison, you're back up. If there's anything additional before I we take a vote. [2:30:27, 2:30:44]: Um no sir. But well, I just wanted to reiterate that staff recommended staff recommended denial of heavy industrial and recommended light industrial because there were um light industrial uses in the vicinity and in the area. So we did deny heavy industrial, but recommended light industrial. [2:30:44, 2:30:54]: All right. Thank you. Is there a motion to Mayor Ford? Yes, sir. I like to motion to deny light [2:30:55, 2:31:13]: And heavy industrial on this property. All right, is there a second the motion? Oh okay, within uh she seconded that, but if you want to add something you gotta go back. Okay, what is it to see what the mo [2:31:14, 2:31:30]: The motion was made to deny light and heavy, but we certainly should issue some directions to staff to go back and revisit the current use, which is n which is not allowed. You wanna add that to the motion? [2:31:31, 2:31:32]: Mayor Pro Tem? [2:31:33, 2:31:44]: Well Mrs. Carter from from what I understand is with the UDC coming after the fact. M Mrs. Carter, can can you speak to that? Presidential. [2:31:44, 2:31:44]: Right. [2:31:45, 2:31:46]: I don't know. [2:31:46, 2:31:48]: 'Cause I just wanna know. [2:31:49, 2:31:52]: What we would do is is I hear some comments down on the other end. [2:31:53, 2:32:08]: We would evaluate the request uh based on whatever the formal submittal by the applicant would be uh if the council were to were to approve the comprehensive plan and or the end of the rezoning. And we would ensure that whatever use is going to [2:32:08, 2:32:15]: either remain on the property or be removed from the property meets the permitted uses under the current code. [2:32:15, 2:32:20]: So they will not be allowed to do use have a use on the property that is not allowed by the code. [2:32:21, 2:32:29]: If if I may, Mayor, if if it's zone residential, this is what we would like for it to remain as. [2:32:30, 2:32:50]: Yeah. Uh you know what what standby standby. So what what uh so your motion so what is your motion to make sure cause one make sure we got the motion right? So brother in re Miss Holliday, what do you understand the motion to be? My motion is to deny. Uh yeah, but I know, but do you have ver verbiage on that? I won't the verb remains the same? [2:32:49, 2:32:52]: We haven't changed the verbiage. [2:32:52, 2:33:09]: Right. The the motion is to deny heavy and light, but the recommendation from staff is to for recommendation for approval of light. The request from the applicant is for heavy and as I understand. [2:33:10, 2:33:25]: Okay, the m but the motions it's denied both heavy and light. The motion has been uh uh seconded by Miss Barber, all right. In that aspect and what you asked Mr. Alexander was n no was not n no it was no need to add that. He didn't want to add that to his motion. [2:33:25, 2:33:33]: It remains residential. It uh excuse me? It remains residential. Right, okay, right, exactly right. All right. Back to Mr. Blount, do you had a comment, sir? [2:33:33, 2:33:37]: Yes, uh thank you, Mayor. Y you know, the problem I have with this whole [2:33:38, 2:33:39]: with this whole process. [2:33:40, 2:33:53]: And it's not just this applicant. It's it's any use of any facility, property or anything in the city limits of any city, especially here in Stockbridge. [2:33:54, 2:33:55]: We can allow [2:33:56, 2:34:00]: People to determine the use of any properties. [2:34:01, 2:34:05]: You can't just start operating at something and that make it the use. [2:34:06, 2:34:08]: without getting a permit from the city. [2:34:09, 2:34:10]: To determine that use. [2:34:12, 2:34:27]: And so when I'm I'm I'm kind of it's kinda interesting that you all said you want to prove light when we have to address the issues at hand. The issues at hand is the use of the property that has been operating for five years. [2:34:28, 2:34:37]: that was not the use of the property in the beginning. That has not been permitted in five years. The only thing in five years that hasn't happened is we hadn't told'em to stop. [2:34:40, 2:34:40]: That's it. [2:34:41, 2:35:01]: And I'm sorry to sound Blount, but that's who I am. So the thing about it is no pun intended. But the thing about it is that we cannot allow anybody to come and operate in this city and they determine the use of any property or facility. And that's what's going on right here. The city has to tighten up [2:35:01, 2:35:04]: Do what we need to do and make sure that we're going to do that. [2:35:04, 2:35:12]: What area areas we have in the future that needs to be looked at from this we should be a lesson for all of us. [2:35:12, 2:35:15]: If people are operating without permits [2:35:15, 2:35:19]: And they're running commercial businesses. [2:35:19, 2:35:24]: We need to make sure that they are allowed or disallowed and act accordingly. [2:35:25, 2:35:40]: Okay, the motion's been made been seconded. So s hopefully no other further discussion. I don't think I just have one other where is further discussion. I'm sorry, one thing. Go right ahead, miss uh what is our future plan use for that that area? [2:35:41, 2:36:01]: What's the question? What's the future plan use of that area? Well, right now it's medium density residential, same as the transfer station. Um, we have a com uh comprehensive plan update that is gonna be starting the end of this year to look at the overall comprehensive use of all the properties throughout the city to implement. [2:36:01, 2:36:06]: And we'll bring that before you all for discussion and a vote. Well I and a and again. [2:36:07, 2:36:15]: I don't know when this happened, but this is not the first time we've discussed this property. It may not have been at a council meeting but [2:36:15, 2:36:19]: But it has been a issue, otherwise I wouldn't have said what I said. I mean [2:36:19, 2:36:20]: It alerted me to it. [2:36:21, 2:36:24]: Until I know that it's been discussed in the past. [2:36:24, 2:36:38]: in City Hall. So I don't know if code enforcement in the past have been have ever came out or whatever the case may have been, but I do recall this. And I don't know if I recall it as a solicitor and I doubt that because that was been over ten years. [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: So it had to be more recent than that. [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: In the past couple of years. [2:36:43, 2:36:44]: That it was an issue. [2:36:45, 2:37:05]: So that's all. Yeah, go ahead, Mr. Alzheimer. I just want to make sure that everybody is clear going forward. Okay, because there's current activity going on on this property right now. So in essence, so we're clear, you're clear what's going to happen going forward. [2:37:05, 2:37:06]: That use going to be eliminated? [2:37:08, 2:37:28]: Correct. It will be. Now that we are alerted of the fact that it is a use that is no longer on the property, we will have to talk with the with the owner. Uh this is the person who's looking to take over ownership and go through to see what we have on the books for the property. And it can only be utilized in the under the current zoning, especially if the [2:37:28, 2:37:48]: board uh denies the request tonight. But this right here, everybody watching and everybody sitting in the audience, this is why you have realtor work with you or you have somebody or you do this process right now. Cause every I get this call all the time where somebody c already signed or bought the property. [2:37:48, 2:38:08]: Then they come back and they find out that the use is not allowed. So it it is a good thing that the property hasn't been purchased yet because so many times people get this, they bought the property, they signed the lease already, and then they come to us and the landlord and the person say, No, I'm sorry, you already signed. [2:38:08, 2:38:13]: [9495.3, 9513.2]: Yep. Nice. All right. So I'm done. Mo mo okay. Motion's been made, been second. Come in. Yep. Yes, yes, my it'll be brief. Because I I I'm trying to hit home with with this and and and my question is to the planning and zoning board and to the community development staff. [2:38:34, 2:38:38]: knowing the master park plan [2:38:39, 2:38:42]: And your department makes a recommendation. [2:38:44, 2:38:49]: This is somewhat d that that that disturbs me right there in itself. [2:38:50, 2:38:54]: And we all have to have and see the same vision. [2:38:55, 2:39:01]: The city of Starkbridge is one vision, we have to see that, and we have to act accordingly. [2:39:01, 2:39:04]: So I'm really disturbed of this recommendation. [2:39:05, 2:39:10]: And not understanding the vision and the council has set the vision. [2:39:11, 2:39:12]: And I I d I just wanted to say that. [2:39:13, 2:39:26]: May enforcement if I may. This property the the trail system does not traverse this particular lot. This lot is less than two acres. It goes around it um on the south and on the west sides. Um just for clarification, but um [2:39:26, 2:39:29]: But the point is is noted. But if I may [2:39:29, 2:39:33]: In the park in the master park plan discussion. [2:39:35, 2:39:35]: This [2:39:36, 2:39:37]: Property. [2:39:37, 2:39:40]: was an issue and the transfer st it was an issue. [2:39:40, 2:39:42]: So it's prominent. [2:39:42, 2:39:49]: in the plan. That that's the point I'm making. It's permanent in the Master Park plan for Memorial Park. [2:39:51, 2:39:55]: That's the point that I'm making. So we have to know this. [2:39:55, 2:40:02]: And we have to act accordingly. I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. All right. Motion has been made, been second. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:40:03, 2:40:12]: C and decision. Thank you very much. Now, on that note, uh uh the next rezoning case is is is a non issue now or not? [2:40:13, 2:40:18]: It is a public hearing so we do have to still read it off and go through the public hearing process. All right. [2:40:19, 2:40:20]: Would do. [2:40:20, 2:40:40]: Hold up mister uh mr anderson stand by just a second. Rezoning case RZ two zero two two dash zero six John R. Landers Junior Applicant request a rezoning to rezone parcel S twenty seven dash zero two zero two one zero zero zero AK four four three MLK Senior Heritage Trail from [2:40:41, 2:40:46]: SR suburban residential to uh HI heavy industrial to allow for industrial development. [2:40:47, 2:40:56]: The property contains one point nine six two plus or minus acres as located in landlock thirty-six of District twelve within the city's li stopper city limits presented by Mr. Anderson. Go ahead, please. [2:40:58, 2:41:12]: Okay, um once again the applicant operates a house moving business from the property where he parks vehicles and stores business equipment outdoors. He proposed to continue the same use but to construct a small modular building on the property in compliance with UD C section three point two twenty. [2:41:13, 2:41:15]: L I districts. [2:41:16, 2:41:36]: Are located to the north and east of the property. Modular buildings are allowed both in L I and HI. Memorial Park and City Transfer Stations are located to the south of the property. Here's an aerial photo of the property once again. There's the transfer station. There's the site and the ready mixed concrete facilities across the street. [2:41:36, 2:41:37]: [9700.3, 9706.9]: Uh here's the zoning map of the site and you have Memorial Park uh located south of the property. And here's the site right here. [2:41:50, 2:42:07]: And as you can see the um there's some LI right in the area, an LI across the street. Here's the applicant's um uh business. It's currently zone SR and here's the equipment parked on the on the property right there. [2:42:12, 2:42:14]: This is pictures of his operations. [2:42:17, 2:42:23]: And here is what um Mare Protein was nothing's moved, sir. [2:42:23, 2:42:27]: Yeah, nothing's been moving, sir. Oh. I don't understand okay. [2:42:39, 2:42:42]: We did have a discussion before. We did. [2:42:43, 2:42:44]: So I think Ms. [2:42:46, 2:42:47]: And the are the okay. [2:42:51, 2:42:51]: Okay. [2:43:08, 2:43:28]: Okay, here's what Mayor Pro Tem was talking about, uh Memorial Park expansion. We did include that in our analysis. That um we did take in consideration the parks master plan. So we didn't we didn't disregard it. So we did we did take that into consideration when we did our analysis. Uh the main point about the main contention. [2:43:28, 2:43:40]: of our analysis was that there are LI uses in the area. So the proper the the rezoning wouldn't be considered a spot zoning. So we thought it was it was feasible. That's how we reached our conclusion. [2:43:43, 2:43:53]: But um staff uh recommends denial of heavy industrial and recommends a um light industrial instead. [2:44:01, 2:44:04]: Okay, council, you got any questions further questions from Mr. Anderson or all? [2:44:05, 2:44:20]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Uh Mr. Anderson, you you indicated uh a recommendation of heavy and or light on the other side of the railroad and uh on the other side of Rockware. Yes, sir. Um [2:44:21, 2:44:22]: That's okay. [2:44:22, 2:44:23]: Mm-hmm. [2:44:23, 2:44:39]: I uh we we can live with that. And so I would recommend to any business owner that's uh that can hear my voice right now, if you wanna look at uh doing something on the other side of uh rock quarry. [2:44:41, 2:44:42]: We could be in favor of that. [2:44:43, 2:44:45]: But on ML King Harris's trail. [2:44:46, 2:44:53]: adjacent to memorial park and in and adjacent to those residential areas. [2:44:53, 2:44:54]: No. [2:44:56, 2:45:00]: All right, any other comments, uh question from Mr. Annison? [2:45:00, 2:45:17]: Yes ma'am, go ahead. I I beg to um Mayor Pro Tem with all I I don't agree with that either. I mean this is Rock Court Road that goes up and down to the hospital. I'm sorry. I I just kinda I I know what you're saying, but uh no, I don't want them coming thinking they can do that. [2:45:22, 2:45:22]: Oh. [2:45:23, 2:45:26]: You mean in the business part and r about where uh GFL is? [2:45:28, 2:45:38]: Yeah. Oh, it's a street a particular area. Oh, I was about to say Rum Creek. Yeah, wherever. But don't give anybody idea to come and apply for something on that road. [2:45:39, 2:45:42]: That's not a part of our future land use map. [2:45:43, 2:45:44]: Yeah, mayor. [2:45:44, 2:45:55]: Yeah, go ahead, sir. As well, under st uh that it wouldn't be allowed along Rock Quarry Road'cause that's covered by the highway overlay. Uses like that aren't allowed on Rock Quarry, Eagles Landing, Hudson Bridge, no. [2:45:57, 2:46:06]: All right, so this is a public hearing, I need to open this up. And so any any um anybody on from our far left side, any public comments for? [2:46:08, 2:46:11]: In the middle four. Far right, four. [2:46:12, 2:46:16]: Okay, anybody in the far left. [2:46:17, 2:46:18]: In the middle. [2:46:19, 2:46:26]: All right. Okay. Public hearing is now uh closed in that aspect. Uh so on that note, uh Council is there a motion. [2:46:28, 2:46:31]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. I I move to deny. [2:46:31, 2:46:44]: Okay. Is there a second? Second. All right. And that was uh Ms. Alexander, do you second that? Okay, good. And I would imagine there's no further conversation. All in favor of the motion, please indicate? It's an unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. [2:46:47, 2:46:53]: We move on. Zony modification case uh ZM dash two zero two two dash zero one. [2:46:54, 2:46:56]: Emen Fatetti. [2:46:56, 2:47:00]: Applicant and member of a pavival pavivotal. [2:47:00, 2:47:20]: Enterprises, LLC, owner as applicant, requests a zoning modification to modify the previously approved rezoning case RZ-03 04 and its development agreement along with two amendments to allow for proposed Bush Creek Commons townhome development. The applicant requests various changes. [2:47:20, 2:47:40]: to the required amenities and site plan. The property contains 15.895 plus minus plus or minus acres with frontages on Brush Creek Court and Shields Road. It's located landlots 59 and 70 of District 12 within the Starbury City limits. Miss Anderson please. [2:47:40, 2:47:51]: Okay. The applicant requests changes in the number, type, and locations of amenities that were that were required by RZ03-04 and its development agreements. [2:47:52, 2:48:12]: The last known approved site plan was from two thousand five. The applicant justifies the requested changes due to the presence of floodplains and wetlands on the property, plus anticipated high HOA maintenance costs and impractical amenity locations. The developer must still comply with the remaining development conditions of the approved rezoning and development agreement. [2:48:11, 2:48:16]: The current UDC does not list required amenities for multifamily projects. [2:48:18, 2:48:20]: Here's the side of the project right here. [2:48:22, 2:48:24]: It's in the goal. This is uh the land use map. [2:48:29, 2:48:35]: Here's the aerial photo of the site. It's highlighted by the green, the light, the fluorescent green. [2:48:39, 2:48:50]: The property was previously rezoned on July 14, 2003, via RZ 2003 from R2 single family to RM residential multifamily townhome. [2:48:50, 2:48:55]: original original developer in style Brush Creek Court, but he did not construct any buildings. [2:48:56, 2:49:09]: The property location, property's located on both sides of Brush Creek Court, across of North Hemory Boulevard, between a Quick Strip s gas station and a Waffle House restaurant. Shields Road forms the bount the real boundary. [2:49:10, 2:49:23]: Property has eighteen point eight nine five acres, but five point four five acres are in the floodplains and wet plans. The applicant cites this as being one of the reasons why some of the required amenities cannot be installed. Other reasons include [2:49:23, 2:49:27]: Once again a high HOA maintenance cost and in practical locations. [2:49:28, 2:49:31]: Uh the applicants propose to develop forty one town homes. [2:49:33, 2:49:53]: The surrounding zoning to the north you have mobile home residential and SR suburban residential districts. To the south, you have C2 General Commercial, MFR and SR suburban residential districts. To the east you have suburban residential district, west you have C three, which is Heavy Commercial, and C2 General Commercial District. [2:49:53, 2:50:08]: Future land use designation of this property as medium density and low dense density residential. The current use, the existing Brush Creek Court was previously installed to serve the development, but no buildings have been installed. The surrounding land use, you got two mobile home parks. [2:50:09, 2:50:23]: and a metal ridge subdivision. The South Land uses our quick trip and a waffle house and an apartment community. The eastern land uses our metal ridge subdivision and an individual single family residential. And the west land uses our commercial. [2:50:27, 2:50:37]: Um the previous uh approved amenities were um let me go to the table so it can it can be easily seen. [2:50:40, 2:50:43]: Well, here's here's a proper the elevations of the proposed townhomes. [2:50:50, 2:51:10]: The list of proposed amenities changes. Uh number one, uh you want to keep the following. Keep the clubhouse, the pavilion, the gazebo, and the monument sign. And you want to remove the following: soccer field, volleyball court, walking trail, extra parking spaces to serve the amenages to be removed, three wooden benches over brush creek, three. [2:51:10, 2:51:26]: Three wooden bridges over Brush Creek, the Pudding Green, and the Bird Sanctuary. And you want to change the following, reduce the number of playgrounds from one to two. I mean from two to one by having a combined playground rather than a separate tot lot and a playground for older children. [2:51:26, 2:51:45]: And also he wanna add the following, provide a gym and workout space inside the clubhouse, provide grills and benches next to the clubhouse, extend the sidewalk to interconnect to neighborhood developed commercial spaces, and provide a sidewalk stub out for future interconnectivity to neighboring lots. [2:51:46, 2:51:47]: That's it. [2:51:47, 2:51:48]: Clear. [2:51:50, 2:51:50]: Yeah. [2:51:50, 2:52:10]: You have a question, sir. Mr. Blount? Yeah, I got a question. When uh this property in in in uh originally it was the d development agreement on there was already set forward. Was it considered floodplain? Did it become floodplain? Is it was it always been? No, it was always in the floodplain, but uh however uh [2:52:11, 2:52:28]: When you look at the development plan, it doesn't look like it was really well thought out because the way they had some amenities located within the floodplain. And after it did the due diligence, they discovered some additional environmental issues. S so so when s so when he had the l before he built and had the land surveyed. Mm-hmm. [2:52:29, 2:52:30]: Two bill. Mm-hmm. [2:52:31, 2:52:41]: Well, first let me say this, Councilmember Blount, that he's not the original property owner. He's a dish he's a he's a different property owner. Well well that's what I'm saying. When he when when when he got the property though. [2:52:42, 2:53:02]: You you if if I buy a house, I'm gonna have somebody inspect and I wanna know what the just say even by bu I buy a car. Mm-hmm. Has his car ever been in a flood or what is I mean, he he didn't know any any he didn't have any paperwork on the uh existing property of of of those problems prior to uh can I defer to him? The applicant is here. Can I let him answer that question right there? Please. [2:53:02, 2:53:02]: Okay. [2:53:07, 2:53:07]: Yes it is. [2:53:11, 2:53:12]: What is it? [2:53:15, 2:53:16]: What time is it? [2:53:16, 2:53:17]: It's uh [2:53:17, 2:53:19]: I got number eight. [2:53:19, 2:53:33]: It's it's uh number ten on the yeah, I have a question. But first of all, tell me n name and address please, gentlemen. My name's Steve Cole, I'm an attorney. I represent the uh company that's bought the property and their owners, Masood Fatimi and Iman Fatimi. [2:53:33, 2:53:39]: Okay. When when you bought the property, what knowledge did you have of all the things that are going on right now? [2:53:41, 2:54:01]: Part of our discussion with the seller was for them to come and negotiate these issues and resolve these matters directly with y'all, but they seemed both unwilling and unable to do so in good faith. And uh we felt that this project could be made into a very successful project, and we took that risk to to [2:54:01, 2:54:14]: to move forward regardless. So we were aware of the wetland issues and we had asked them to come to y'all to resolve these issues, including moving the amenities, but I'm not sure if they ever did. [2:54:15, 2:54:20]: They had many years to do so and they never it doesn't seem like they ever actually took [2:54:21, 2:54:23]: Uh any um how do you say [2:54:23, 2:54:36]: th initiative to actually do that. Uh I'm not sure why they didn't, but uh now we're here trying to turn this into a successful project for the city. So you're saying you decided that [2:54:38, 2:54:44]: You're gonna purchase this property without any resolution of of prior issues. [2:54:45, 2:54:49]: Now you're gonna divide anyway and remove all these amenities. [2:54:50, 2:55:10]: And take your chances on this end versus having the resolution put in place, resolving those issues prior to now. Is that what you're saying? Mr. Consul, that's one way to look at it. The other way to look at it was overburdened with amenities to start with back in two thousand and two when it was put in place. It's twenty years. [2:55:09, 2:55:17]: Excuse me, man. But twenty years for twenty years this project has sat there with nothing going on. And some of the comments we've had tonight. [2:55:17, 2:55:21]: We talked about revenue because actually the answer to the question from the first [2:55:21, 2:55:29]: arguments w on other issues dealt with income and cost. Cost being controlled by your budgets, income [2:55:29, 2:55:31]: being fuelled by development of property. [2:55:31, 2:55:49]: And that's exactly what the city needs. Is people come and and my clients have a history of buying property that's undeveloped and turning them into successes. Austin Park is a subdivision they built within the last three years in the city of Stockbridge. Eighty one lots and they've built every one and everyone sold. [2:55:49, 2:55:58]: So every indication is that this can be turned into a a successful project. Granted, it is overburdened with um [2:55:58, 2:56:01]: wetlands and other stuff. But they their their plan [2:56:02, 2:56:03]: Doesn't want to build in the wetlands. [2:56:04, 2:56:08]: And it's only forty one lots, there's no reason to have ten amenities. [2:56:08, 2:56:11]: for forty one units with things like a soccer field and [2:56:12, 2:56:13]: Bird sanctuaries. [2:56:14, 2:56:18]: When again I'll go back to it, Austin Park has two has a clubhouse and a and a [2:56:19, 2:56:32]: Uh Austin Park has a playground, green space, and uh grills with benches with parking to share. But uh for eighty one houses. The the current UDC [2:56:32, 2:56:36]: реquires half the number of amenities we're proposing. [2:56:37, 2:56:37]: Not [2:56:38, 2:56:43]: The the eleven amenities that are currently imposed on forty one town homes. [2:56:44, 2:56:46]: Із на [2:56:46, 2:56:52]: reasonable and if we were to apply for zoning today it would not be imposed. [2:56:54, 2:57:06]: I mean I I I get that what what we require for as in our UDC for as amenages. I'm just just one one other looking at how what's the acreage and what what how much acres is considered wetland, uh Ms. Hams? [2:57:10, 2:57:11]: It's considered the web. [2:57:16, 2:57:19]: Over five acres of the eighteen acres is is in the wetland. [2:57:19, 2:57:23]: So you're gonna have thirteen acres roughly plus buildable. [2:57:25, 2:57:29]: Yes, sir. That's correct. Yeah. How many units you're trying to put in thirteen [2:57:29, 2:57:30]: Forty one units. [2:57:31, 2:57:47]: With what amenities? With the I mean with the with the suggested amenities. So you're gonna be you're gonna put forty one units in in in the thirteen plus acres with the three amenities. And that's wiping everything else out. [2:57:47, 2:58:07]: We we are proposing to install the clubhouse bit which is thirteen hundred square feet uh with parking and in within the clubhouse it has uh equipment for gym and also for kitchen. And then besides that we have a pavilion of fifteen by twenty and the [2:58:07, 2:58:27]: Other side of the street across from the clubhouse with benches and grills for enjoyment of the homeowners. And besides that, we have a playground of two age groups within one playground. And we have 3,000 square feet of open space for. [2:58:27, 2:58:29]: Enjoyment of the people for [2:58:30, 2:58:50]: And up besides we have a gazebo for children's school buses and monument in front of the subdivision for uh uh the name of the subdivision. Okay. This the reason this subdivision has been sitting over sixteen years and nobody's approaching to do [2:58:50, 2:59:03]: anything about it is is this issue of too many amenities, too costly to build, and it's very high maintenance for homeowners to be able to handle it. [2:59:05, 2:59:23]: There are just a soccer field and a volleyball court and uh uh playgrounds on the far right side of the subdivision on low grounds which are all floodplains and very n not accessible at all for homeowners. [2:59:24, 2:59:44]: You go to a parking lot of a grocery store, you park right next to the very close to the door of the uh grocery store so be able to access that grocery store. Here they are parked everything on the side of the subdivision, which has you have to actually walk a twenty feet drop. [2:59:44, 2:59:45]: to that [2:59:46, 2:59:48]: And maintain it. [2:59:50, 2:59:52]: It's just not reasonable for forty one homes. [2:59:53, 2:59:57]: To be able to maintain and pay for it. [2:59:58, 3:00:14]: It's just not feasible. These are m probably entry first time buyers or second time buyers and they cannot pay two thousand dollars per year maintenance cost of the uh amenities. It's just not feasible. Then having this development already started though? [3:00:15, 3:00:19]: Development is completed. We are just in the phase of going to start building the homes. [3:00:20, 3:00:40]: The townhomes. Yeah, but'cause I remember so so in the midst of all this, what is what is the total amount of homes gonna be out back? Forty one homes. Forty one townhomes, attached townhomes. But that's what I'm saying. Having this uh you haven't started this development yet? Is that what you're saying? The infrastructure is completed hundred percent. [3:00:40, 3:00:43]: But the homes have not been started to be built on. [3:00:45, 3:00:45]: No buildings. [3:00:48, 3:01:08]: I'm just trying to orientate myself. Is this the one like between with the with the Waffle House on the quick trip and you go straight back? Yes. So that's gonna be the that light gonna be the exit and entrance right there. Cause you're gonna go down to a CODIS Act. Yes. And when you talk about going east on the property, which is the top part, that's [3:01:08, 3:01:25]: the part where the wetland is gonna be that's where the part where the wet cola sac is past the cola sac way down below is where the uh amenities suggested to be take it no I see what amenity is I'm saying where's the uh on this where's the wetlands located? Is it located on the [3:01:26, 3:01:29]: On the far back side of it. [3:01:30, 3:01:33]: And I'm wanting to ask because I I'm trying to figure something out here. Yes. [3:01:35, 3:01:37]: It's oddly bad. [3:01:39, 3:01:41]: Which is it ain't even close. [3:01:42, 3:01:43]: No, but fifteen eighty. [3:01:44, 3:01:45]: Where are the wheeling on it? [3:01:45, 3:01:52]: Yeah, I think we had a good map. [3:01:59, 3:02:00]: So can you see that? [3:02:02, 3:02:09]: That the green is uh and the pink are the f flood zones and wetlands. The [3:02:10, 3:02:13]: So it's basically indicating that [3:02:14, 3:02:34]: It's it's indicating that the amenities as originally drawn are lying in the flood zones, which is a general no-no for any type of construction. It leads to higher maintenance costs. Uh part of the reason those are flood zones is because they're they happen to be a valley. [3:02:33, 3:02:53]: So not only would they be s in the flood zone, but they'd be surrounded by tall trees that were not allowed to be to cut down. So if you can imagine maintaining a soccer field in a volleyball court with nothing but tall trees around it, it it's and f potential flooding every so many years. [3:02:53, 3:03:13]: It's not reasonable. Unfortunately, that doesn't lend very much space for where else to put these amenities. Given the site restrictions, there is a part of what you're not seeing is that there is a large section. [3:03:13, 3:03:15]: I don't know if you can. [3:03:15, 3:03:35]: See my mouse circling right here. That's a detention pond that services a large portion of the commercial development in front, as well as the townhome. So on top of the five acres, that would be flood zone, and you'll have some acreage over here, which we can't access. [3:03:35, 3:03:42]: And then you'll have more acreage that's part of the detention pond facilities that are also non developable. [3:03:43, 3:03:45]: Let me um let me just ask this question. [3:03:45, 3:03:47]: When you're coming into that property [3:03:48, 3:03:56]: On the Waffle House side, is that one lane and then there's two lanes on the other side? Is that the way it is or is two lanes on both sides? [3:03:56, 3:04:14]: Um so as you enter this is the Waffle House on the right. Oh there's it's a two lane access, yes. In in into the subdivision. Into the subdivision, yes. That's a that's a standard I think what, twenty-six foot width or twenty-four foot width road? Twenty-six maybe? [3:04:14, 3:04:29]: Twenty four. Twenty-four. Yeah. It's a two-lane two lane road. And as drawn on the paperwork, they're gonna be all rear entry garages and the HOA will be in charge of maintaining those access alleyways. [3:04:30, 3:04:35]: Um that helps provide a nice front for all the homes. Okay. [3:04:36, 3:04:56]: I'm through. Okay, good. Uh uh Mr. Azahn, go ahead, please. What what I'm keying on is this map and uh we can read. Okay. The pink areas are a five hundred year flood, which is a uh just a incredible amount of water. Um the green area is a hundred year flood uh around. [3:04:56, 3:05:00]: round where you're showing down most of the area. Those are exceptional [3:05:01, 3:05:21]: you know rains that may happen uh through acts of nature, but that's not to be expected uh to come forth. There's something that may or may not happen. And so that's why they call it a hundred year flood. It's not something that's gonna be routine or expected to be something that would occur uh with frequency like we [3:05:21, 3:05:25]: We got at the dog park. This that's what the map says, correct? [3:05:25, 3:05:45]: Yes, it does not show fifty year or ten year floods. That being said, they do receive frequent inundations of water and the if if we were to build structures that would be illegal. The point of a hundred-year flood zone is to not encourage [3:05:45, 3:05:55]: [11155.4, 11159.1]: It would increase the HOA's cost. [3:05:59, 3:06:07]: Well, everyone's costs would be increased. And that but at the same time, we're not recommending to to [3:06:08, 3:06:09]: The current UDC [3:06:10, 3:06:14]: Would only require, I believe, two amenities plus a green space. [3:06:15, 3:06:28]: We have chosen a clubhouse, a pavilion, and a combined playground that's m more, plus we're choosing the m the better amenities, amenities people will use. [3:06:29, 3:06:32]: The You don't think people use the walking trail? [3:06:33, 3:06:45]: I think that it would be very costly to have insurance on three bridges that go through a mature forest. They're there it's literally going through a wetland. [3:06:48, 3:06:53]: Excuse me, I apologize. [3:06:53, 3:07:04]: Okay. Uh in terms of uh what we're looking at here, so uh let me ask staff. So was Austin Park and this location both loan b owned by the same landowner? [3:07:04, 3:07:10]: Austin Park, uh I'm not sure, probably but before my time, um uh [3:07:10, 3:07:17]: So you built Austin. Who did you did you buy Austin part from the same people you buy this one from? So [3:07:17, 3:07:31]: We purchased Austin Bar from different people and and not from the same people. Right. But what I'm saying is that when these developments were done, as you say, Austin Park is develop is uh amenities poor. [3:07:31, 3:07:35]: because it did not get the amenities. It would seem to me that [3:07:35, 3:07:39]: Whoever did this development probably did both of them at the same time. [3:07:40, 3:07:41]: And when they were doing so [3:07:42, 3:07:58]: that they anticipated that these projects would probably be connected and that you would have amenities that both of these communities could use, not just one. So because Austin Park doesn't have basically any amenities. Is that correct, Stan? What what amenities does Austin Park have? [3:07:58, 3:07:59]: Uh [3:08:00, 3:08:06]: I'm not sure Councilman uh Alexander. We build that subdivision. He can ask it at like three. [3:08:07, 3:08:27]: It was two different developers. Um and I don't see how the two neighborhoods would have been proposed to share amenities, being that it was two different developers and these are private amenities. So um the the code does not specify very carefully under one hundred h units or actually [3:08:27, 3:08:35]: The question was how many amenities does Austin Park have? [3:08:36, 3:08:39]: If you consider an open space an amenity, it would be three. [3:08:40, 3:08:41]: Okay. [3:08:41, 3:09:01]: There's benches and grills, there's an open space and there's a combined playground for multiple ages. Okay, so there's a playground and then there's a green space and then there's some benches. So basically they don't have any amenities to me, in what I would go by in terms of what would be required. They don't have any amenities. So [3:09:01, 3:09:21]: So I'm looking at it through my rear room window saying whoever did these two developments probably had something in line where they might have had these two neighborhoods working together. Because it makes sense that they're so close together that you would put the amenities in this neighborhood and that you would allow the residents to use both of these. [3:09:21, 3:09:41]: Locations together. It just co-happens that you where you came along and you're gonna develop them separately. But I I have a problem with anybody coming in here telling us to make the development cheaper and to eliminate the amenities that were included in it. This is a superior development. [3:09:41, 3:10:01]: Development with all of these amenities in it, which is the walking trail, the volleyball court, all of those things are awesome. That'll be an amazing community for somebody to live in. And it certainly would be again where if you were able to spread those costs between Austin Park and [3:10:01, 3:10:21]: this particular neighborhood, then it certainly would be able to uh factor in because the people at Austin Park don't have any amenities to access. Maybe they would have choose to, who knows. But the main point that I'm trying to make here is that we spent$20 million to develop a trail system in this city. [3:10:21, 3:10:41]: And you're coming in here to ask us to eliminate a trail system. You're coming in here to ask us to eliminate amenities in a the in a in a in a neighborhood where amenities help increase the value of the community. So my last question would be how much what is the pro target price point and the square footage on [3:10:41, 3:10:42]: The homes. [3:10:45, 3:11:02]: The screw with the uh digits of the home, depending uh where we finish the base most of these uh last probably gonna have some basements. Mm-hmm. Whether we finish or not somewhere from two thousand to twenty three, maybe twenty five hundred square feet. But the average about twenty one, twenty two hundred square feet. [3:11:03, 3:11:23]: Okay, and then price point all it gets dictated by the market. Uh six months ago I thought that we can sell around four hundred, but I don't think we can do that anymore. Probably somewhere between three hundred to four hundred. And questioning uh I mean uh thinking about what you just said, combining two different [3:11:23, 3:11:43]: Totally different two subdivisions. Uh the homeowners using each other's amenities. That's the first myth for me to come across with. And it required the two HOAs get together, create bylaws, and on and on and on. It's just not reasonable charges. [3:11:43, 3:12:03]: Each other for usage, who uses this and the other. It's just not reasonable. But the uh main thing is this. Okay, let's let's assume that we uh agree to incur the cost to produce the volleyball court, the uh soccer field in the floodplain, and the [3:12:03, 3:12:12]: playground is in the flood uh also is in the uh flood plain. Let's assume that we agree cost on all apart is not an issue. [3:12:13, 3:12:15]: HOA cannot sustain it. [3:12:17, 3:12:22]: They will easily give it up and leave it for go to trash. [3:12:22, 3:12:42]: No question asked. Even the amenities we are proposing for forty one homes is very expensive to maintain. Insurance, maintenance, upkeep, and taxes. We have come across with amenities we are proposing they have to pay somewhere around eight hundred to thousand dollars per year with the ones we are proposing. [3:12:42, 3:12:43]: [11563.5, 11571.7]: But the bonds in are in the books, it could be about twenty to twenty-five hundred dollars a year. They cannot homeowner forty-one homes. [3:12:52, 3:12:53]: If it was hundred homes. [3:12:54, 3:12:55]: I would say maybe. [3:12:55, 3:13:15]: It was even subdivisions over hundreds, two hundred and fifty homes, they don't have even four amenities. This is just excessive burden and that this is one of the reasons this uh neighborhood has been just sitting there for sixteen years and nobody wants to touch it. Mm-hmm. Because of these issues. I can see that. [3:13:15, 3:13:35]: I agree. Ms. Cannon, you can't. So I just you just happened to myself and the mayor live in a subdivision that um shares an HOA community thing. They come over to us Mandorly, which is right next door to us. They actually share in our amenities. Um is that correct, Ms. [3:13:35, 3:13:41]: Yeah. Okay. So we actually have that, just so you know. Um but [3:13:41, 3:13:53]: This is fifteen acres and there are laws about being uh near flood areas that's marked flood areas. I'm very I I get it. Um [3:13:54, 3:14:03]: The retention pond. Who will be responsible for the retention pond once you guys build everything and leave? Number one. Number two, um [3:14:04, 3:14:16]: It's fifteen acres. So I can see reducing uh you know, a bird watching sanctuary and some of those other uh some things that uh that I I do believe there's a lot [3:14:17, 3:14:18]: Um [3:14:20, 3:14:22]: I do believe that [3:14:22, 3:14:25]: that in two thousand three whoever [3:14:25, 3:14:26]: develop this plan [3:14:27, 3:14:30]: It wasn't really actually reasonable within that time frame. [3:14:30, 3:14:34]: And I'm shocked that you gave me a price of three or four hundred thousand. [3:14:34, 3:14:36]: For a town home near the [3:14:36, 3:14:37]: The QT. [3:14:38, 3:14:57]: An apartment complex and a waffle house and some uh trailer parks in the back. I'm really shocked that you gave me that number. Is it high or too low? Well I don't wanna say. I'm just shocked that you gave me that number. What why? Right? I'm just wondering what anything you call. And I my question is [3:14:58, 3:15:02]: My question is we have you saying forty one homes. [3:15:03, 3:15:03]: We do [3:15:04, 3:15:12]: Um, you know, I I would love to see an attachment to the trail or extended uh a a larger, what is it, ten feet sidewalks? [3:15:12, 3:15:20]: Uh is that what we mean? Along along the yes. The ten feet sidewalks would be within reason, right? Connecting um [3:15:20, 3:15:22]: Out to the main road there? [3:15:22, 3:15:23]: Um [3:15:24, 3:15:26]: And I wouldn't be [3:15:26, 3:15:35]: Uh oh and my my other question would be retention pond and then my other question is with the owners, are the owners gonna be required to have flood hazard insurance? [3:15:36, 3:15:56]: Do you know that or not? Yeah, because they're outside of the flood zones, I don't believe they would require extra insurance. That would be if their structures were lying within flood zones. Um the f as for the detention pond, there's already a reciprocal agreement. The original developer who [3:15:56, 3:16:04]: Had uh actually built the commercial areas out in front, had set in place an agreement between the commercial properties. [3:16:05, 3:16:25]: as well as this property that the HOA would technically be responsible for the maintenance, however the cost would be shared depending on the amount of use. So each of those commercial properties would be required to chip in for that maintenance. I think another thing to consider is that we [3:16:24, 3:16:44]: We do have the access roads going around all of the properties, and it does follow along Brush Creek there, and that access road functions as a walking path, including for dogs or whoever. They'll have the homes on one side and the creek and the forests. [3:16:44, 3:16:51]: Forest on the other side. And so they can use that as a walking trail. It's not quite [3:16:52, 3:17:12]: It's not quite as amazing of course as wandering straight through a forest, but there are inherent challenges with maintaining forty one townhomes, maintaining a walking trail that goes through flood zones, wetlands, and mature forests that is it just it [3:17:12, 3:17:32]: Just it's above and beyond what I would think an HOA of this size should be required to handle. Well it would be very expensive to handle all those amenities plus some. And I uh I'm looking at it, I don't know whether or not it would it would not require to be for uh a homeowner to have home blood house. [3:17:32, 3:17:35]: has an insurance or not. I'm just gonna be honest with you. [3:17:35, 3:17:38]: Looking at it, um attorney, uh what do you think? [3:17:39, 3:17:45]: That would be a lender requirement typically. It would be a requirement. If it's in a flood zone typically they require flood insurance. If it's not, they don't. [3:17:45, 3:18:01]: Right. And it's pretty close there. I mean it's fifteen eighty. You are you aren't. And you could be in a flood zone by lateral lines or by vertical lines. Okay. You can be above a flood zone and still be sitting in a flood zone. [3:18:02, 3:18:06]: Okay. And um in regard uh what did you say? [3:18:09, 3:18:18]: Okay. All right. And in regards to um I see those the first town homes there. I my other concern would be [3:18:18, 3:18:24]: I don't know about combining a playground. I kinda like the idea of having two playgrounds, one for the [3:18:24, 3:18:28]: closer to one area and one closer to the back end of the of the [3:18:28, 3:18:31]: Um community. [3:18:31, 3:18:39]: I'm sorry. No, go go ahead with your colour. Other than that, um, you know, I I understand reducing some of the amenities. Um [3:18:39, 3:18:51]: But y again you said between three and four hundred thousand, I'm a I I ex that's what I'm gonna expect that property to be worth. I expect it. Well that uh [3:18:53, 3:19:13]: Everything depends on the economy. Again, uh six months ago, anything anybody built, any product they put on got sold. We were that time we thought that we can uh do around four hundred. And given the fact that we uh that also depends, as you mentioned, it's the score of footage. [3:19:13, 3:19:33]: and what you put inside the house, uh, in terms of bells and whistles. So uh six months from now that we're gonna actually probably building maybe three months from now if everything goes well, everybody talking about recession. But so we have to kind of consider what the market can absorb [3:19:33, 3:19:39]: at that time. But uh I believe we would be within three to four hundred thousand range. [3:19:40, 3:19:41]: Yeah. [3:19:41, 3:19:42]: Okay. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [3:19:43, 3:19:52]: Um yeah, I'm I mean I'm I'm looking at this pri I mean y you you're just talking about forty one units. Yeah. You know, and in our um [3:19:54, 3:20:00]: In our requirements, I think is it that they we have a list and they're required to do three. [3:20:01, 3:20:07]: And those specifics on those three, we leave that lead way to the builder, pretty much, right? [3:20:07, 3:20:27]: Yes, sir. But technically in the MFR district, uh UDC doesn't specify amenities for multifamily. However, in subdivisions, it it it it expresses it. Yeah. So MFR you really don't have to do it. Yeah, and you're talking only forty-one units. And if the elevation is higher than the flip, [3:20:27, 3:20:30]: Planes won't even play a role in there and [3:20:30, 3:20:39]: You got property that's been empty from in my opinion, when you guys say I don't know, sixteen years? Over sixteen years. Yeah, so. Two thousand three started. [3:20:40, 3:20:41]: Sound like a good deal to me. [3:20:42, 3:21:02]: Any other questions? Yeah. Go right, please. The city actually has in our twenty million dollar trail plan, we actually have trails along Brush Street. So this would actually be at some point hopefully tying into those trails. That's why the walking pail is so important because our trail network doesn't [3:21:02, 3:21:22]: include Brush Creek Trail if you look at the$20 million that was actually approved. So I'm looking at that and I know what you're saying. I mean we have Reeves Creek Trail that's built some partially it's in a floodplain. You know I mean sometimes that's just how it is. If you're building trails, that's some that's gonna be the result sometime. [3:21:22, 3:21:42]: So I certainly would not like to see the trail uh eliminated from the project uh because of the money and the investment and the commitment that we have made uh to that area. So at this point, you're proposing what tr what what what is it that you're committed to that you're coming in here today, you're [3:21:42, 3:21:46]: trying to eliminate pretty much everything except three? That's what you're trying to do? [3:21:47, 3:22:03]: We are proposing the clubhouse, which as I mentioned earlier, thirteen hundred squ square feet of clubhouse with uh a few parking spaces, which next to it is going to be the centralized uh mailboxes. [3:22:04, 3:22:24]: uh with a handicapped. And then across street we're gonna have a pavilion, uh fifteen by twenty. Next to it is going to be uh benches and grills for enjoyment of the community. And then next to that's going to be in front of [3:22:24, 3:22:40]: In order to be able to accomplish to have single playground for two age groups. And then next to that we're gonna have 3,000 square feet of open space solid area. [3:22:41, 3:22:52]: And then next to that's going to be the gazebo for the school bus. And then if next to that, in front of subdivision, we're gonna have the m ground-based monument for the name of the subdivision. [3:22:53, 3:23:13]: That by itself is a lot of stuff to take care of and maintain. I think homeowners is all going to be in the walking distance of their homes. They don't have to go down the hill or up the hill in the flood or dirt and this and the other. And as as to walking trail, as uh Imon mentioned, these homes [3:23:13, 3:23:33]: Homes are rear entry, rear rear loaded. Basically, the garages are in the back of the homes. We're gonna install the access road past and beyond the current roadways going to the cul-de-sac, uh, from one side to the other side, entering from one side going to the other. [3:23:33, 3:23:53]: But currently it's about I think 14 feet wide. It could serve as a walking turf. People can just walk underneath the trees on the other side of the st uh access road. It's gonna be a huge loop, just people walking around underneath the trees. And not in addition to that, creating another one just uh [3:23:53, 3:24:13]: Fo uh per original uh agreement there's a 1400 square uh feet of walking trail that has crossed the creek a couple times. Liability issues, again going through the other uh uh floodplain areas, a lot of trees, maintenance, cleanup, insurance. [3:24:13, 3:24:29]: insurance is just not feasible in our opinions. And we beg the board to consider this for the good of the city and ours, to get this thing built to generate income for city and another happy community like Austin Park. [3:24:29, 3:24:49]: So if you eliminated all three of the bridges, how would they get back? I mean, can they across at all? We are proposing not to build it. We're basically having these other amenities instead of those three, four that we're uh eliminating. And they're all again uh very accessible from the walking distance. [3:24:49, 3:25:01]: from main drag of the subdivision. And they already have sidewalks on both sides. And we're connecting those sidewalks to the commercial buildings in front of the subdivision. [3:25:01, 3:25:17]: That all by itself is plenty. Uh this is not just that we are trying to save cost on building it. Mostly we're looking in the lens of homeowners in the future that they're gonna have to carry the burden. That's the main focus. [3:25:18, 3:25:27]: If you guys decide to turn us down, we'll build it, it's gonna go down the trash. No no problem for us. We just came over here to create something for the HOA. [3:25:28, 3:25:31]: to be able to handle it, maintain it, pay for it. [3:25:32, 3:25:33]: That's the main thing. [3:25:33, 3:25:38]: So in other words, whether whatever we do, you will still be able to build it is with what you're saying. [3:25:39, 3:25:44]: Um I I'm saying No matter what decision we'll make, you will still be able to build it. Is that what you're saying? [3:25:44, 3:26:04]: We'll consider the consequences after this. Mayor. It's just it's I'm gonna you done the standard. No, I wanna go back over I wanna verify what he just said. Stand by so the you said the clubhouse is still going to be included, correct? Exactly. The covered pavilion with the fireplace, is that still included that's in part of the [3:26:04, 3:26:13]: Clubhouse? We were proposing grills and benches instead of a fireplace. We figured a grill is a little more usable. Uh fireplace. I mean [3:26:13, 3:26:25]: I kinda like the covered fireplace. So okay, uh okay. And then uh the solid sports area you said you were including that too. Say again. The solid sports area is included. [3:26:26, 3:26:39]: Yeah, three thousand square feet as drawn on the map there, yes. It's not quite as big as the soccer field originally proposed, but it soccer field didn't fit in the land available outside of the flood areas. [3:26:39, 3:26:42]: Okay, so but pretty much you're talking about eliminating [3:26:42, 3:26:44]: The pudding green. [3:26:44, 3:26:47]: The tennis courts with the basketball goals. [3:26:47, 3:27:02]: Um technically there was an amendment that the walking drills. The the there was an amendment that changed the tennis court to a soccer field. Um but there were some lost site development plans that we could not originate. [3:27:04, 3:27:04]: Okay. [3:27:05, 3:27:10]: No, I was telling this it's some book or someone's um Mayor. [3:27:10, 3:27:18]: Clubhouse only having five parking spaces. Is that what what is the recommendation from the city? [3:27:21, 3:27:32]: See it so look at the second column on your page. I'm thinking it's uh there was extra parking spaces dedicated parking space. [3:27:37, 3:27:38]: [12460.4, 12461.3]: And then we [3:27:41, 3:27:44]: Item number two, where there's a extra parking in. [3:27:48, 3:27:51]: Basically warm pool uh depending on the seats. [3:27:55, 3:27:59]: Okay. [3:28:02, 3:28:03]: One per what? [3:28:03, 3:28:06]: four fixed seats, depending on the number of seats. [3:28:09, 3:28:22]: Depending on the number of seats inside of the clubhouse. Well well, actually um pin if we categorize it as a club, so it would be five per one thousand square feet. So he would need to do um six [3:28:25, 3:28:45]: So um whatever is is being proposed it it will meet the code. So this is preliminary, but whatever comes informally before um our we have a technical review committee that reviews for all building, civil engineering, planning and zoning, fire, life safety, um and [3:28:45, 3:29:04]: building and we will make sure that of course all the other requirements are met as well as the additional um the conditions of the development agreement. And I think you wanna need us to speak into the record what Right. Okay, what they're asking for. And that was a list that just went away. [3:29:04, 3:29:07]: Yes, it's it's happening. So uh so the the proposed [3:29:08, 3:29:14]: Um items to keep are the clubhouse, which is thirteen hundred square feet. [3:29:14, 3:29:28]: the pavilion, the gazebo, and the monument sign. They're requesting to remove the soccer field, the volleyball court, the walking trail, extra parking spaces to serve the amenities. [3:29:29, 3:29:32]: Three wooden bridges over Brush Creek. [3:29:32, 3:29:34]: Putting Green and Bird Sanctuary. [3:29:35, 3:29:55]: Well what he said was that there was gonna be three thousand sided green spaces. That's not included here, but that well that's what was stated, right? But what is staff recommendation? I believe all neighborhoods are required to have uh an open space. So so what is staff's recommendation? So staff [3:29:55, 3:30:10]: I'm gonna continue to read this into the record for the city clerk if you all don't mind. Um they're looking to change or reduce the number of playgrounds from two to one by having a combined playground rather than a separate tot lot. [3:30:10, 3:30:12]: And uh playground for older children. [3:30:13, 3:30:14]: And they will provide the following [3:30:15, 3:30:18]: A gym and workout space inside the clubhouse. [3:30:18, 3:30:30]: grills and benches next to the clubhouse, extend the sidewalks to in to interconnect to the neighborhood, developed commercial spaces, and provide a sidewalk stub out for future interconnective [3:30:33, 3:30:53]: For me, I would have to have the walking trails. I mean, that's what we're doing in terms of the city and where we're trying to go. I would certainly have to have the walking trails. I could see the pudding green uh being eliminated in the volleyball court uh being eliminated. Um the bird sanctuary feeder. [3:30:53, 3:31:05]: birdhouses, benches, I could see that'll be eliminated. So that would be three, but I certainly would like to see uh the walking trails included in any neighborhood that we got going forward. [3:31:06, 3:31:07]: Okay. [3:31:07, 3:31:15]: So the sidewalk is what, four to five feet? Typically? It's five. Five feet and the walking trail would at least be eight feet, eight to ten. [3:31:15, 3:31:26]: Usually about eight feet, yes. Right. So w would it be much of a problem to extend it three additional feet? Do you still what you gotta identify as a sidewalk so that'd be p it can be turned into a trail right there, I would imagine. [3:31:26, 3:31:39]: The sidewalks have already been installed as a result. And and the streets have already been installed um as a result of the previous Oh, there's no sidewalks. So the walking trails, I guess we have to determine where those can be if you guys want to speak on that. [3:31:41, 3:32:01]: The standard sidewalks within the subdivision within the which is in the books is for I think four feet right now. So we have agreed to extend that to the front of the subdivision. Uh eight B. So I don't just foresee if T be widening it, what could that would uh [3:32:01, 3:32:19]: It's uh plus if you bring it in front of the subdivision being ten feet, bring it in front of the homes four feet, which seems to be more reasonable because the setbacks only ten feet from the property line, it makes it very difficult to have any wider sidewalk. [3:32:19, 3:32:26]: We we need a dedicated uh walking trail. That's that's what I'd like to see. A dedicated walking trail. Some of this other stuff might be [3:32:27, 3:32:36]: If you if you see the access roads that encompass the the town homes, those function as a walking trail. They they border the forested area and the creek. [3:32:37, 3:32:41]: And then hopefully if people maintain their homes, having the homes on one side will still be [3:32:41, 3:32:47]: Just beautiful and it won't require any extra maintenance on the homeowners. [3:32:47, 3:32:50]: But the homeowners are united. Satwall. [3:32:51, 3:33:00]: No. The the walking trail is already twenty foot wide. It's is now technically there would be traffic on that road, but these are these are [3:33:00, 3:33:03]: slow going roads, people need to pay attention. [3:33:03, 3:33:05]: But uh [3:33:06, 3:33:10]: The access road already encompasses the neighborhood and follows along the creek. [3:33:10, 3:33:11]: Mm-hmm. [3:33:12, 3:33:32]: You wanna show it? That heavily uh shaded areas behind the town homes. That's what he's referring to, which is access road behind the homes, which is right next m the ones on the left on the upper side. [3:33:32, 3:33:52]: side next they're next to the creek, they can actually see the creek. The ones on the other side is just pretty much entire area wooded and heavily uh a lot of trees. So what uh Iman is mentioning is the fact that they can use that uh access road all around behind the buildings as [3:33:52, 3:34:12]: Uh walking trail without they're still maintaining it without actually uh paying additional maintenance costs to have the walking trail. I'm okay with it. All right. Yeah, go ahead please. Yeah, I'm I'm looking at you talking about forty one homes. That's why they don't party. [3:34:12, 3:34:32]: Um we we're talking 41 homes and and and uh I like the I like that you guys are building the um garages on the back side of the homes because usually when you see this type of development, they're they're on the front side. Yes. And I like the access road behind there. You guys are gonna build it. [3:34:32, 3:34:52]: The higher where it won't be in the Flood Plains area. You you've chosen your amenities, and I have to say it's only 41 townhomes and they are all for sale and there'll be homeowners in them. So um Mayor, I like to go ahead and public hearing, sir. Oh, just public hearing? Public hearing. Oh, okay. So I on that note, the note of the question as far as a public hearing. [3:34:52, 3:35:03]: I'd like to open it up to the public. And any questions, I mean any c questions or concerns in favor on my left over here? You can have a speaker. Any in the middle? On the right hand side. [3:35:05, 3:35:08]: I'm sorry. They they have some comments? [3:35:09, 3:35:11]: This is in favor now. [3:35:12, 3:35:18]: This is in favor. Well come on up. Okay, I didn't realize it. Come on up. Um your name and um [3:35:18, 3:35:25]: Address please. Uh Scott Doohart, uh six thirty two Spray Berry. Scott Doohart. [3:35:27, 3:35:31]: Uh I'm at six thirty two, Sprayberry Drive. [3:35:33, 3:35:53]: Uh I do live in Austin Park. Uh so I got a lot. I'm I'm on the HOA, so I got a lot of uh things to say. Well, I don't have a lot, but I can just jot it. Uh as he previously mentioned, five months after year, uh you really can't use the park, the volleyball court, soft soccer field, or walking trail. Uh we currently have an issue at the parks with kids. [3:35:53, 3:36:13]: Kids having sex, homeless people hanging out, uh, and we just had to pay 4K for a fence and we're paying another 5k for security. So I wouldn't recommend two parks personally. Uh having all these amenities brings problems and from the outside, as he mentioned, the homeowner secures all the cost of maintaining the property. So [3:36:13, 3:36:13]: The uh [3:36:15, 3:36:35]: Trailer Park behind us, we find people up there hanging out. Uh it's nice that he's building a school bus hangout for the kids because right now we have complaints about kids just hanging out in everyone's yard. So I'm in vote of him reducing amenities and I'm not agreement of trying to come together. It's too many personalities, too many different homeowners. [3:36:35, 3:36:45]: associations mentally is just a lot. But I do agree with what he's got, what he's doing currently. And Councilman, you said 300,000 to 400,000. [3:36:45, 3:37:05]: Inflation right now. We paid 230 something, 240 something. It's just the time we're living in. If he was to offer me a home right now for three hundred fifty thousand dollars, brand new bill in this area, I would still buy it. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate your time and effort. All right. So that was that was comment four. Any more? Four in the middle. Uh four in the far. [3:37:05, 3:37:12]: Uh right. Okay. Any comments against in the far left. Against in the middle? [3:37:13, 3:37:20]: Uh ma'am, you wanted to make a a a comment against I guess this? Okay. Name and uh name and uh address please. [3:37:21, 3:37:33]: Yes. Good evening. My name is uh Darlene Brewster Clark. That's my husband, Freddie Clark, and we are adjacent to this project. We're at one forty one Shields Road. [3:37:33, 3:37:35]: And my concern [3:37:36, 3:37:44]: Well, first of all, let me say thank you to to you for allowing me to uh speak. I have several concerns in [3:37:44, 3:37:58]: The first concern is that when we talk about the access road, that access road is running right on the side of our property. And there is and I and I understand [3:37:58, 3:38:12]: the purpose of this meeting. But what's important is that part of what they are trying to do and get approved is on land that has not been determined is theirs. [3:38:14, 3:38:19]: So that's a big concern that we're going through right now. So what I'm saying now [3:38:19, 3:38:39]: We've said behind closed doors, and we're saying publicly now. I want everybody to understand that the part of the access road that we're talking about is adjacent with our property. And I just wanted to show you a few things. Uh in addition to that, we're in a very calm neighborhood, and now we're talking [3:38:39, 3:38:48]: About right at Shields Road, and north of our property, we're talking about building a playground. [3:38:48, 3:38:51]: I think the project, as someone has already said, [3:38:52, 3:38:54]: It could be successful. [3:38:55, 3:39:09]: I really believe that it could be successful. But I'm concerned at being approved today with some of the property that you are assuming belong to you because we have one survey, they have another survey. [3:39:10, 3:39:28]: And the surveys are not matching. And we're trying to sit down and discuss where the property lines are. Attorney Cole has uh given me some information to try given us information to try to consider, but one of the documents that [3:39:29, 3:39:40]: Linda Logan presented to me shows that the applicant has already moved on the plans, have already moved our fence back. [3:39:40, 3:39:55]: over half of the acres that we have at the bottom of our property. We live in four point two five acres of land. And as I show you, um let's see, I think he told me to do view. [3:39:56, 3:40:15]: And full screen mode. I know it sounds like everybody is positive about what they want to do today, and I don't have any objections to the project itself. My objection has to do with the fact that you are actually taking some of our property and assuming it belongs to you. [3:40:17, 3:40:30]: You wanna let no Okay. You're assuming that it belongs to you and you have actually written it up in the plan to move a fence that has been existing over twenty years unchallenged. [3:40:31, 3:40:31]: So [3:40:34, 3:40:35]: Taki sh. [3:40:36, 3:40:42]: Mr. Anderson, can you help her with that to Yeah, I just want to advance. Show me how to advance on this one. [3:40:43, 3:40:53]: Where are they? Here. There we go. Okay. So the first thing as I said was the access road. That access road runs north [3:40:53, 3:40:55]: On our property east west. [3:40:56, 3:40:56]: And [3:40:57, 3:41:03]: When you pull that fence back, it gives you more room to build that access road. [3:41:03, 3:41:06]: Am I making sense so far? Go ahead, please. Okay. [3:41:07, 3:41:26]: And so we talked about the noise of the playgrounds, and I know that we we're saying that we're not gonna build two, we're gonna build one, and it sounds like I heard us say that we're gonna put that second playground in the rear end of the project, which is gonna be closer to Shields Road. [3:41:31, 3:41:38]: The playground is no longer? Okay, because one of the one of the plans that was presented to me. [3:41:38, 3:41:58]: No, Linda sent me plans and and I remember we are not arguing. So Linda sent me plans that I'm I'm speaking from. And those plans were not put up today, but these plans were received from Linda last week that showed me that the the um [3:41:59, 3:42:03]: The the line, the fence had been moved. The property fence [3:42:03, 3:42:10]: It's inside of the plans that you guys are, excuse me, this council is about to approve. [3:42:11, 3:42:11]: And [3:42:12, 3:42:28]: As I spoke with the applicant, one thing was said to me as we were trying to talk through some things, and I felt that there was a form of intimidation there. He we l in in our four point two acres, the whole thing is fenced in. [3:42:28, 3:42:48]: And he said to me that he could call code enforcement to make me take down the fence, all all of the fence. And so I didn't I didn't get pushed by that. But then also the attorney is saying to me that the assumption is that the applicant owns the property because they [3:42:48, 3:43:01]: There's a thing that's called race notice, meaning that whoever files the deed first in the chain of titles, they actually own the property. [3:43:02, 3:43:12]: And saying that in 2003 that title was filed. Well, the tent the applicant bought the property in 2021. [3:43:13, 3:43:30]: If you look at the chain of titles and you look at our chain of title, then we would have assumed a chain of title in nineteen ninety-three. So I wasn't satisfied with the point that you're trying to negotiate with me about [3:43:30, 3:43:33]: Some property that we haven't established that belongs to you, said [3:43:34, 3:43:38]: So I'll skip this because we've already talked about this part. [3:43:39, 3:43:52]: The difference in the degrees has to do with they're saying that it's an eighty-nine degree difference, eighty-seven degree, that's two degrees difference in the property. [3:43:53, 3:44:13]: The survey discrepancies have dated back prior to 2003, 2003. Fence been there for two over 20 years. We've paid property and main property taxes and maintained this property for all these years. And so here is the if you look at this particular one, this is the [3:44:13, 3:44:31]: Diagram that Linda sent to me. I didn't draw this. And you see where they've already taken the fence and pulled it back. This is our property. And if you look at the property here, they're proposing to take over half of this part of our four acres. [3:44:32, 3:44:52]: Because you assume this in your plan. I mean, this is what I received from Linda. Please I didn't draw this. Please address me, ma'am. Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't draw this. This was presented to me that where the fence was, now in the proposed plan, you move the fence out that covers over half of the land. [3:44:52, 3:44:58]: at the bottom part of our property where part of the flood area is. That's where part of the flood area is. [3:44:59, 3:45:19]: So my point was that if we approve it today, you're approving it based on the assumption that part of the property belongs to them and it's gonna be part of what they're actually saying is going to be the access road. If you look right here behind all the trees, that's where they would. [3:45:19, 3:45:28]: We're telling me the access road would be right behind our property there, and proposing to take half, over half of this yard here. [3:45:29, 3:45:45]: That yard right I'm sorry, that yard right there is is you saying it belongs to you. That's that's part of the four point two acres. That belongs to us, but according to them and according to the Georgia race notice law that [3:45:45, 3:45:53]: It belong part of it belongs to them, rightfully. It belongs to them because they filed their deed first in a chain of titles. [3:45:53, 3:46:10]: But if you're going to say you purchased the property in twenty twenty one, we purchased our property in two thousand and five and if you're gonna look at chain of title, our chain of title would have been nineteen ninety three, theirs would have been two thousand and three. I know that's not your [3:46:11, 3:46:31]: Responsibility today. My point or our point is that part of the property that they are declaring is theirs and is part of the plan that you're going to approve today. So is there such a thing as a platter survey for this at all? What is uh a platter survey that indicates what who's what who has what property. [3:46:31, 3:46:37]: property or your property lines, but just y are you Both of us have surveys, but both of the surveys are different. They're different. [3:46:37, 3:46:43]: Okay, hold on. I think Miss Carter was Yeah, both of the surveys are different. Miss Carter you gonna address that or something uh [3:46:43, 3:46:45]: So the the dispute [3:46:45, 3:46:49]: between the two property owners is a civil matter. Um [3:46:50, 3:47:06]: But to be taken under under consideration, we have not final platted this project because it has already gone through the preliminary plat until this happens and they build or and they're ready to build, we'll do a final plat at that time and we'll have to address this matter at that time. [3:47:07, 3:47:20]: I see. Okay. Um stand by sir for a second. Okay. So uh I Oh he wants to ask. I'm sorry, you wanted to it's kinda stated. I just wanted to be sure. [3:47:20, 3:47:40]: We're accurate. The landlord the the deeds say the the deeds prior to her deeds and the pre the deeds not change title, they run along the north or south landlot line. That's the language that's used in the deed itself. One says it runs south eighty-nine degrees, one says it runs south eighty-seven degrees. But nope, but that's [3:47:40, 3:47:46]: There's no th her D well you had a quick claim D didn't you? [3:47:47, 3:47:52]: Well, I don't think it was a warranty deed, but it doesn't matter for here. My purpose for contacting her [3:47:52, 3:47:57]: Which I was kinda shocked to see what we've been talking about today. I was trying to settle the issue without going to court on it. [3:47:57, 3:48:04]: 'Cause it was gonna be expensive for her to deal with it, it's gonna be expensive for us to deal with it. Okay. So we were offering to give her [3:48:04, 3:48:15]: That whole part of the yard that she doesn't own that we do. Okay. Yes, sir. The ten minute rules just hit. So council, I'm I'll just want to ask you whether or not we want to continue this on. Yes, please. Okay. [3:48:15, 3:48:18]: Okay. You get you'll get a chance, sir. You get a chance to answer. [3:48:18, 3:48:24]: Quite okay. So go ahead, continue on, sir. That was my whole point. It's not as it's not as she's stating [3:48:25, 3:48:27]: There are deeds out there, and race notice simply means [3:48:28, 3:48:31]: IDs were on before her, so she can't take something that we already own. [3:48:32, 3:48:36]: And there would be an argument that's probably there'd be a lawsuit about it. There would be an argument about [3:48:36, 3:48:41]: twelve feet or two feet or whatever it worked out to be. And we were trying to avoid that for her. [3:48:41, 3:48:47]: And for us. So we made a a a proposal to her. That's all that was. It wasn't any heavy handed [3:48:47, 3:48:53]: tactics or or trying to overreach. It was simply saying, we've got an issue here that we can resolve. [3:48:53, 3:48:56]: You don't have to hire an attorney, they don't have to pay me, we don't have to go to court and deal with it. [3:48:57, 3:48:58]: We'll give you something you don't have. [3:48:59, 3:49:02]: You'll give us something that we really don't think you have, but we'll take it. [3:49:02, 3:49:07]: in compensation for it anyway, and it would resolve the issue. And that's all that was for. And that's my only reason [3:49:07, 3:49:08]: For wanting to say it. [3:49:08, 3:49:13]: 'Cause it was coming across as if we were trying to be heavy handed with her and that's not the case at all. [3:49:13, 3:49:17]: Thank you, sir. No, may I may I speak on that? Go ahead, please. [3:49:18, 3:49:33]: I wasn't implying that they were being heavy-handed. I was trying to make sure that the law was being equally held. If you're saying that the chain of titles, if the chain of titles for this applicant [3:49:34, 3:49:38]: says in two thousand and three when he did not own the property. [3:49:39, 3:49:59]: That he filed first. If you're gonna use that same logic, use it for me as well. That would mean that we purchased in 2005, but there's a chain of titles that says this title was implemented in 1993. So then that would mean that we actually file first. [3:49:59, 3:50:19]: gonna use chain of titles as to be the um the fact and I wasn't trying to say that they were strong arming me or anything like that. I'm simply saying I'm simply saying that you're looking at a picture where they actually moved the fence and as attorney cole is saying today he's saying we're gonna give her something [3:50:19, 3:50:39]: We're gonna give her something that didn't belong to her, which means that you are assuming based on this information that it belongs to the applicant. Okay. That's what you're assuming when you say I'm gonna give you this deed and you give me that deed. You're assuming that you own the property right now without any Okay. [3:50:38, 3:50:52]: Okay. Well from Miss B Carter indicated it's a civil type civil matter. I somehow I guess we shouldn't be involved in this, but since Mr. Washington's here you're gonna address that, sir. Is that correct? Yes. Go ahead. [3:50:54, 3:50:57]: The matter is best handled as a quiet title action. Okay. [3:50:57, 3:50:58]: What is that? [3:50:59, 3:51:19]: A quiet title action where all the litiGantts are brought into court to determine true title for the properties and they would look at t the judge would make a decision as to who the person that has the correct title is about all the parts in dispute because that wouldn't be something that we would have province over. Now is that something that we we should we should make a decision based on that that or we can make a decision [3:51:19, 3:51:22]: [13882.7, 13894.0]: You can make a decision based on the information you're being presented by Miss Carter, Director Carter's department. Right separate from any of this. Okay, got it. All right. Send Sam by the hold on please. Hold on, please. Mr. Blount. Oh God. [3:51:34, 3:51:36]: Uh [3:51:37, 3:51:43]: It it it it seems that uh it's not for you, uh it's for Miss Johnson. [3:51:44, 3:51:45]: Ms. Johnson. [3:51:46, 3:51:50]: W were you aware of this prior to coming in here? [3:51:50, 3:51:51]: Yes. [3:51:51, 3:52:03]: Um the applic this is a civil matter. This has nothing to do with the request before you. Um it is something that we have to do. But you say that we have to get a final we're we're gonna get a final plat, right? Yes. [3:52:03, 3:52:15]: We have to we will not final plat a property that is not titled to the applicants that are coming before us for permits. We will not. So and final plots actually go to planning commission, not to city council. [3:52:17, 3:52:35]: So final let me get understanding'cause when I'm green in certain areas. So if we final plat it, that means that those are the boundary lines. Yes. So we can't final final plat it until this is resolved. Is that what you're saying? Well yes, absolutely. I mean this has come before the council. So [3:52:35, 3:52:47]: If this isn't resolved, the city itself can't final plat it. Correct. We will not we will not file a lot without clear time. You was very much aware of this because you've given letters to [3:52:48, 3:52:48]: Okay. [3:52:49, 3:52:51]: Why are we even hearing this tonight? [3:52:54, 3:52:55]: We're [3:52:55, 3:53:07]: Ma uh Mr. Alezan, I'm asking a question. It was actually at the planning committee. The first time we met. Okay, we already but we already represented it. Let the city manager let the city manager address this, please. [3:53:08, 3:53:09]: Okay. [3:53:10, 3:53:25]: This is a s if they have any property boundaries dispute is a civil issue. This does not impede this property owner from coming before this city council to ask for relief of zoning conditions. [3:53:25, 3:53:34]: Not to redesign the property, right? Because it's already been redesigned. The streets are in, the infrastructure is already in. This man this been through approval. [3:53:35, 3:53:36]: Uh the county. [3:53:37, 3:53:55]: Years ago and it's been approved. So whatever difference they have in terms of the property boundaries is between these two property units they need to see. He's asking for y'all to do away with some zoning conditions. Has nothing to do with the proper read realigning property boundaries, no way such thing. [3:53:55, 3:53:59]: Hear it based on specifically as it relates to their request for [3:54:00, 3:54:14]: Either eliminating or not eliminating zoning conditions and that's it. Don't talk about anything about property boundaries or anything because then you're drawing us into a civil law secret. Mr Garden, I appreciate that. [3:54:15, 3:54:21]: But if Miss Johnson Helen, I'd like to hear Mr Johnson telling her. With all due respect. [3:54:21, 3:54:40]: W the staff gave whatever information they requested, but I'm asking counsel to hear this based on the request by the con by the applicant for reduction of zoning conditions. Okay. Thanks. Modifications, that's it. All right. All right, good deal. Everybody else please please take a seat. Have a seat, please. [3:54:40, 3:55:00]: And so I was uh ma'am, have a seat please. So what I was I was asking for any anybody else uh that was uh had any other comments, negative comments, I went to the center and out to the right. There was nothing to write. There was nothing to write, so I'm gonna close this public hearing. Public hearing is closed. All right now. Um on that note, uh [3:55:00, 3:55:07]: Council uh um matter of fact, uh uh let's see here, how we wanna do this. [3:55:08, 3:55:14]: I really am gonna need a motion, but uh what I wanna do first though before I ask for a motion, uh city manager and a city attorney. [3:55:16, 3:55:17]: See Madam Senator, come back here, please. [3:55:24, 3:55:44]: I think I understood you m uh mister Gardner in reference to that. Obviously Ms. Uh Carter brought up first about a civil matter we can't get involved in that. But what you're saying, what the applicant was asking for is something we could we could approve if you want to approve that. Just wanna make sure that our our attorneys will apprise an anything additional on the legal aspect that you want [3:55:44, 3:55:46]: [14147.4, 14157.1]: No sir, Your Honor. Okay. All right. Mayor. Yeah, yeah, yes, sir. I just got one question real quick. They could start building today if they wanted to, right? [3:55:58, 3:55:59]: Yes. [3:56:00, 3:56:15]: Because all of that's already been dealt with. The only thing that we're dealing with is deciding what the amenities is. So if we turn them down, they still could go ahead and bill regardless of the property line. They don't need to come back, right? Correct. So basically we just got one issue to resolve. That's it. All right. [3:56:16, 3:56:25]: [14186.4, 14198.4]: Right, right. But they right, right. But the issue is w whatever we could approve it. And and it would drastically looking at the site plan, it would drastically reduce the number of locks that they have. [3:56:39, 3:56:42]: In order to put uh regulation size soccer field. [3:56:42, 3:56:46]: On ten acres plus a regulation volleyball on ten acres. [3:56:47, 3:56:59]: So uh uh personally myself, if you ask me, that that's okay. I just want to w I'd like to see the walking trails. All right. So thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Council, I need a motion to accept this proposal that's before us. [3:57:00, 3:57:01]: Mirror. [3:57:02, 3:57:02]: Yes, sir. [3:57:04, 3:57:06]: Okay. Did you want to make a motion? Yeah. Go right here? [3:57:10, 3:57:13]: Put the uh put the amenities back up there again, please. [3:57:38, 3:57:58]: Okay, thank you. We as the city manager suggested, uh, we can remove the soccer field, we can remove the volleyball court, uh, we can remove the pudding green, we can remove the bird sanctuary. Um that was the suggestion, correct, sir? I mean that was what you suggested, those two items. [3:57:58, 3:58:00]: [14286.4, 14306.4]: Uh I was adding the fact that those are sizable um amenities that obviously would eat up developable land in order to make it happen. Um or put it in the floodplain, which obviously you don't want to really do that. Right. So those that was the soccer field and the volleyball court, correct? Yeah. Okay, so the soccer field could be [3:58:26, 3:58:46]: Eliminated, the volleyball court could be eliminated, uh, the pucket putting green could be eliminated, the bird sanctuary uh could be eliminated. Uh the motion is to include the clubhouse, the pavilion, the gazebo, uh the monument sign, the walking trail, uh, and the extra [3:58:46, 3:58:56]: parking spaces, uh the and the extra parking spaces because we know people have gatherings and event and as indicated here there's uh not enough parking for the clubhouse. [3:58:57, 3:58:59]: All right, is there a second to that motion? [3:59:00, 3:59:01]: They add the grill. [3:59:02, 3:59:05]: The grill with the fireplace is a as well. [3:59:05, 3:59:07]: All right, is there a second to the motion? [3:59:07, 3:59:20]: I second. Miss Barber seconds that. All right, we plenty have plenty of discussion. So on favor and I uh the discussion is part of this format, maybe what's the discussion the discussion is that they've already laid the sidewalk. [3:59:21, 3:59:23]: They only have ten feet to d to work with. [3:59:24, 3:59:37]: on uh to the street. They've already laid the sidewalk. They can pick the amenities that they want. We've given builders that th that option to pick the amenities. The amenages that've been picked is only forty one units. [3:59:37, 3:59:40]: while we have any ability to go back [3:59:40, 3:59:41]: And now [3:59:42, 3:59:44]: Add concrete to concrete. [3:59:44, 3:59:53]: No sir, that's not what's happening. They're gonna build a separate walk and track Uh Ma uh Mayor, uh Mayor, please, can you get order when someone else is talking? Go ahead and talk. [3:59:54, 3:59:55]: For me. [3:59:55, 4:00:00]: The three amenities been picked by this builder is forty one units. [4:00:00, 4:00:01]: Um [4:00:02, 4:00:16]: They have the the the real doors they they have a lot going on with this with this development and I'm not for them spending that extra money for trails on on this and they've indicated that they d don want to put that expense on. All right, any further discussion? [4:00:18, 4:00:18]: Yes, ma'am. [4:00:27, 4:00:30]: What do you mean the mon I thought I said the monument sign, yes. [4:00:31, 4:00:35]: No, the the gym and workout and all that. [4:00:35, 4:00:37]: The jam. [4:00:44, 4:00:45]: Yes. Yes. [4:00:47, 4:00:49]: Do we need to read the whole motion over again? [4:00:51, 4:01:11]: Go right ahead, please. But read what you what read what you you have. Keep the following the clubhouse, the pavilion, the gazebo, the monument sign, the walking trails, the extra parking spaces. Um number three will reduce the number of programs from two to one by [4:01:11, 4:01:23]: having a combined playground rather than a separate top lot and playground for older children. Uh we provide a gym and workout space inside the clubhouse. Provide grills and benches next to the clubhouse. [4:01:26, 4:01:38]: Extend the sidewalk to interconnect to neighborhood, develop the commercial spaces up front, and provide a stub out for future interconnectivity to neighboring lots. [4:01:39, 4:01:42]: And and Miss Barber, you second that motion, is that correct? [4:01:43, 4:01:44]: Okay. [4:01:44, 4:01:48]: All right. Any further discussion? Can I ask for clarification? I'm sorry. [4:01:48, 4:01:49]: Um [4:01:49, 4:01:52]: She she she did second the motion, is my understanding. [4:01:53, 4:01:56]: Is Barber? Okay. She's seconded them also. Yes, ma'am. [4:01:56, 4:02:09]: I was just asking for clarification on um Councilman Alexander not allowing them to reduce the number of playground spots, uh parking. I just wanted to be sure I understood that you are not wanting to allow them to remove any parking. [4:02:10, 4:02:14]: No, right. We know right. Th the there's only a few parking spots at the clubhouse, correct? [4:02:16, 4:02:17]: Hmm? [4:02:18, 4:02:21]: We we we do we want the extra parking. [4:02:23, 4:02:31]: The extra parking spaces to serve. Right. What they were asking. No, sorry, no, right. We're not trying to remove those. We want to leave those. Sorry. [4:02:32, 4:02:46]: Okay. Um Ms. Gand, did you have something on your mind? So the only thing that we are adding from what they ask their proposal is we're only adding the walking trails and we're keeping the parking spaces as is. Is that what we're doing? [4:02:47, 4:03:07]: Mm-hmm. And we're reducing. No, we're adding the walking trails and m making them putting the extra parking spaces for the amenities. Right. And moving two uh two into one playground. Playgrounds into one. Okay. Correct. And then everything in number four for the gym and workout space, grills and benches. [4:03:07, 4:03:10]: an extended sidewalk and the sidewalk's top out. [4:03:11, 4:03:11]: Okay. [4:03:12, 4:03:13]: Any further discussion? [4:03:15, 4:03:17]: If not, all in favor of the motion please indicate [4:03:19, 4:03:23]: All opposed? Okay, four one, it passes. Thank you very much. [4:03:23, 4:03:24]: Thank you. [4:03:25, 4:03:26]: Alrighty. [4:03:27, 4:03:30]: Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Thank you, Ms. Carter. [4:03:31, 4:03:32]: Now going to new business. [4:03:33, 4:03:46]: Grant Acceptance Criminal Criminal Justice Coordinated Counsel CJCC FY twenty three law enforcement training grant in amount of seventeen thousand four hundred ninety-five dollars presented by Chief Tremor and Miss Anderson. [4:03:48, 4:03:48]: Please. [4:04:17, 4:04:20]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening. [4:04:23, 4:04:36]: We're here before you this evening to uh seek your approval for acceptance of uh several different grants that the police department has applied for uh that are going enable us to uh better serve our community. [4:04:36, 4:04:56]: Uh the first grant that we are seeking your um acceptance of is the uh Georgia Criminal Justice Coordinating Uh Pro uh Counsels uh grant uh for law enforcement training. We have received a grant from uh CJCC in the amount of seventeen thousand seven hundred and ninety-five dollars. Uh [4:04:56, 4:05:10]: Uh that grant will cover uh law enforcement training specifically related to use of force and de-escalation training uh for all of our staff with the Stockbridge Police Department. If there are any questions, I'd be happy to answer those at this time. [4:05:11, 4:05:31]: I actually don't have a question, but I need to apologize to Captain Anderson. I didn't say Captain Addison earlier, so excuse me, Captain. Pl please forgive me. All right. Any questions, Council? Yeah, real quick. Sir, you've been waiting a long time, but talk about these grants and the effect that they're gonna have on us moving forward in turn of [4:05:31, 4:05:39]: Overall public safety in addition to with the especially with the annexation areas that we're adding. [4:05:40, 4:05:54]: Sure, so the the three grants that we're uh presenting to council for acceptance this evening are grants that uh are related, well these two of those are related to specific training that are in line with uh the pillars of twenty first century policing. [4:05:55, 4:06:11]: Uh so this grant right here as it relates to uh use of force de-escalation training, pillar five of uh the President's Task Force on Twenty First Century Policing, obviously focuses on law enforcement training. We see a lot across the board uh as it relates to um uh [4:06:11, 4:06:31]: Officers being trained to utilize de-escalation techniques uh more appropriately, um, to develop uh use of force training programs that allow officers to respond more appropriately to uh situations that they're dealing with and encounters that they have with members of the uh community. Um that uh will allow us again [4:06:31, 4:06:33]: to better serve the community. [4:06:33, 4:06:53]: Um some of the other grants that uh we've received and are seeking acceptance for the mental health and wellness grant. That's uh pillar six of the president's uh uh twenty first century policing task force that relates to officer safety and wellness. This is an internal grant that will allow us to provide um psychological evaluations for our staff on a regular basis. [4:06:53, 4:07:13]: to um conduct various different training and wellness programs that will uh serve our officers better because what we believe is that if we serve our officers better, if we are able to provide them with additional training and additional assistance to cope with the stresses that they have to deal with, that translates into more effective service to members of the community. [4:07:13, 4:07:33]: And then the other grant is a bulletproof vest partnership award grant, which helps us offset our uniform expenses that we've already been out of pocket to provide ballistic vests for our staff. So it's covering half of the expenses that relates to that. But one of the key grants, as it relates to the question that you posed, that we're not here before the council to seek acceptance. [4:07:33, 4:07:45]: because we've already presented this, but through the diligent effort of Captain Anderson who's already secured for us this year nearly one point five million dollars in grant funding for various different initiatives. Yes, absolutely. Kudos to you. [4:07:48, 4:08:08]: Uh we received uh one point two five million dollars through the um COPS hiring grant that will enable us to onboard ten additional officers and this grant will help defray the cost of those ten additional uh sworn personnel uh for the next three years. So um and that lines with our [4:08:08, 4:08:28]: uh community policing efforts also pillar of 21st century policing. Um we've also got two smaller microgrants again that we're not seeking acceptance for, but we want to let the council uh know so that you're aware of all the work that's being done. And Walmart has gived that given us uh two grants,$5,000 apiece, so that we're able to serve [4:08:28, 4:08:48]: um some needy families in the city of Stockbridge and do a shop with a cop program at our Hudson Bridge and our North Henry Um Boulevard Walmarts. And we will be accepting applications sometime this week. So we encourage those who are online or if you know needy families who may be in need to go through the application process so that we can serve them. [4:08:48, 4:09:08]: So a lot of very good, a lot of very forward-facing uh programs, a lot of great effort initiative by Captain Anderson actively looking for some of these grand opportunities out there, again, which will ultimately help defray the cost. So, as an example, use of forced de-escalation training is extremely important to our police department. If it were not for that 18,000, [4:09:08, 4:09:28]: that we receive for that grant funding, that$18,000 would have to come from as part of our budget to be able to provide that training. The internal mental health and well-being training for our officers, again, which is very important, if it weren't for the grant funding, we would be responsible for funding that through the budget process. And so we don't have [4:09:28, 4:09:48]: And then obviously uh the fact that we've been able to uh secure funding to hire ten additional officers is extremely um extremely important to our organization, the service that uh we provide to members of our community. And um, you know, we couldn't have done it without the uh again the diligence of uh Captain Anderson moving forward and actively looking for ways. [4:09:48, 4:10:08]: That we can help to phrase some of the costs as it relates to operations of the police department. And just finally, uh in terms of going into 2023, we didn't have you all come up earlier, but uh you have what you need with this new growth coming into the city uh to uh always ask, what do you need? [4:10:08, 4:10:14]: We're doing the budgetary times now. So do you have what you need to move us forward into twenty twenty one? [4:10:14, 4:10:34]: Right. Well well the 10 positions are obviously going to help. But I want to remind the council back when we um established the police department, we decided to start out smaller because we really didn't understand what the true demands were in terms of service. Um and uh now that we have a better understanding of that, now that we're operational, um it was recommended uh through the Carl Vinson study. [4:10:34, 4:10:42]: Study that we uh start out with fifty-seven sworn officers. We started out with fifty-two. Uh so we started out uh a little smaller. So um [4:10:43, 4:11:03]: Based on our calls for service with the current population we have, um the data that we've calculated is that we need nine additional officers just to meet the demands that the city currently has uh to operate more efficiently to be able to do true community policing so that we don't have residents waiting for you know for for fifteen, twenty, thirty minutes for officers to respond. [4:11:03, 4:11:14]: Um the annexation does bring some new challenges because now with the annexation we have the entirety of the interstate that we're responsible for, from the Henry County line all the way down to Jodoko Road. It's extremely busy. [4:11:14, 4:11:34]: uh section which would necessitate uh in all likelihood a traffic unit to be able to address those um those issues. Um and then also with the addition of the eight thousand uh seven to eight thousand uh new residents, um that obviously is gonna increase the demand for service and so um you know estimations are that we need anywhere um [4:11:34, 4:11:54]: From uh the the ten officers that we requested up to twenty-one officers in order to be able to effectively uh deliver that uh service to our community. So uh we we do need additional uh positions and then there are uh some support functions too. So we're not just talking about the sworn staff, we're talking about civilian. [4:11:54, 4:12:11]: civilian staff too because we've already seen an increased demand as it relates to requests for reports, open records requests and things along those lines, serving citizens as they come into the police department. And um we we actually um uh need some more administrative personnel to be able to support that. [4:12:11, 4:12:25]: And one of the things that we would like to move forward, and Captain Anderson is actually working on, I'll share with you some of the other opportunities, um, some funding for uh software that will allow us to be better uh analyze crime data so that we can s respond more appropriately. [4:12:25, 4:12:34]: And um certainly uh a crime analyst, a dedicated crime analyst to help us respond to those things would be uh would be beneficial. So um [4:12:34, 4:12:36]: We uh [4:12:36, 4:12:52]: Uh as I said before, we're in need of nine additional positions in absence of annexation and in order to meet that demand we will need some additional officers uh to to meet that need so that we can continue to provide the high level of service that we have um uh promised uh members of the community. [4:12:53, 4:13:13]: So I'm just sorry. I'm just a little stunned about so we got all of the and you never we haven't been on the interstate and now we have all the interstate. We we had portions of it, but it it wasn't the entirety of the interstate. It was it was it was pockets uh of the interstate. But that still ke keeps us extremely busy. We're we're averaging about seventy-five instances that our officers are responsible. [4:13:13, 4:13:16]: responded to accidents out on the interstate per month just with the small section that we have. [4:13:17, 4:13:22]: So now having the entirety of the interstate it it it obviously is going to um uh [4:13:22, 4:13:26]: present some added challenges for our officers, uh, for certain. [4:13:26, 4:13:36]: Well, thanks. So could you okay, you it ends at uh Jodico, bridge to Jodico, right? Correct. And then where's the start again now? At the Henry County line. [4:13:36, 4:13:38]: It's a Harry Can I lie. [4:13:39, 4:13:50]: And how many miles out I'm I'm sorry, Chief. Is this about what's that about twenty miles? No, no, no, not twenty miles. It's probably s six to seven miles. So only six to seven? Okay. All right. All right. [4:13:50, 4:13:56]: Well both sides? Yeah, it is both sides, north and south. Okay. Got it. All right. So anyway, so um [4:13:56, 4:13:59]: Any other questions in reference to the uh this uh [4:13:59, 4:14:10]: This this first grant proposal acceptance here. Mayor Mayor Ford. Oh I I'm I'm sorry, Ms. Barber, stand by the member. I do have a couple of questions, but I want to say thank you. Thank you, Captain Anderson. [4:14:10, 4:14:11]: Um [4:14:11, 4:14:15]: That's exactly what my vision was as far as [4:14:15, 4:14:17]: Having people who are dedicated to [4:14:17, 4:14:22]: going out and identifying these grants. Um I know it's not gonna [4:14:23, 4:14:23]: Uh [4:14:24, 4:14:26]: Make up for [4:14:27, 4:14:30]: the amount of money that we have to budget for the overall [4:14:30, 4:14:33]: Operations of the police department, but it certainly does help. [4:14:34, 4:14:36]: One point four five million dollars. [4:14:36, 4:14:40]: goes a long way. Um so I appreciate your efforts. [4:14:41, 4:14:43]: I do have a question though, with [4:14:43, 4:14:47]: Remember I think um over the summer we did [4:14:48, 4:14:50]: Uh you brought a grant to us. [4:14:50, 4:14:54]: And that was going to help offset the cost for [4:14:54, 4:14:56]: Some additional officers. [4:14:57, 4:14:59]: When will that take effect? [4:15:00, 4:15:01]: That that grant um [4:15:02, 4:15:19]: The the resolution was to apply for and accept that grant. We have received that grant. So we've got the funds. There's just some procedural issues that Captain Anderson could probably speak to if you have um uh some questions about that in terms of how we receive those funds and when we receive those funds. Okay, and my next question is [4:15:19, 4:15:24]: For those officers who will be paid under that grant. [4:15:25, 4:15:40]: What about the uniforms, the cars, the equipment, weapons that they need? Is that included in our twenty twenty three budget, Mr. Gardner? Okay. [4:15:43, 4:15:44]: Thank you. [4:15:45, 4:16:05]: Good question down here? That was it. Yeah. Okay, go ahead, Mr. Porto. Yeah. Chief, I I I just wanna commend you and your staff because as you probably know, I'm I'm a little concerned about our budget. And so what I've heard, I mean, I'm really excited about it. And when I hear you say uh [4:16:05, 4:16:25]: sustaining for three years, you know, that's that's what I want to hear. And so I'm sure without even saying that you are going to continue in the trenches identifying grants that will be able to uh plug into the police department. So uh uh it's good for me and I'm I'm just glad to hear that. [4:16:24, 4:16:25]: Right. [4:16:25, 4:16:33]: Yeah, and I appreciate that. And this is what the next slide is here, just to give you an overview. Uh Captain Anderson's actually working on um uh [4:16:33, 4:16:53]: A grant that will supply additional technology and equipment that will help us uh as it relates to violent crime reduction. She's working on a uh$1.5 million grant. It would supply cameras, uh automated license plate readers, uh crime intelligence software, um, a lot of various different uh technological components. [4:16:53, 4:17:13]: You know that's a vision that we have to leverage technology for public safety. So she's working on that grant proposal right now. Some of the other large grants, and as it relates to staffing, one of the ones that we'll be seeking in the future is the governor's office of highway safety heat grant, which is a traffic-specific grant, which will fund uh vehicles and the salary for office. [4:17:13, 4:17:21]: Again for uh how many year what a year period is that? Uh it's it renews every year. Okay. So it renews year after year after year. [4:17:22, 4:17:37]: Yes. And uh we're ask we're we're also looking at uh a cops grant that will allow us to uh up to a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to uh develop various different uh youth programs um in the community. So we're seeking those opportunities out as well. [4:17:39, 4:17:44]: Excellent. Any other questions? No questions, just excellent. [4:17:45, 4:18:02]: Well yeah, we're gonna I'm gonna ask for it. No question, I'm gonna ask for a vote. Absolutely uh I mean a a motion. Chief, I just also wanna say Chief and Cat uh Captain Anderson, I appreciate everything you all do. If I could get you out of here and just vote for all three at one time, I would do it. But um they have some procedures here. [4:18:02, 4:18:22]: Right. So anyway, for the first uh need a motion for the very first one and the criminal justice coordinated counsel. Is there a second? Second. Okay, all favor please indicate. Fantastic. Okay. Grant acceptance, uh, Office of Community Oriented Oriented Policing Services, COPS, FY twenty two law enforcement mental health and wellness act. [4:18:22, 4:18:36]: L E M H W A grant an amount of hundred seventy five thousand dollars presented by Chief Tremor and Captain Anderson, which you've already talked about. Okay. [4:18:37, 4:18:40]: I I'll give it to Barber there. She's second. All fair please indicate. [4:18:40, 4:18:42]: So now she says he's not right. [4:18:42, 4:18:55]: Grant Acceptance FY twenty two Department of Justice Bulletproof Vest Partnership Award. This funding is not awarded uh on the pre precedent pre precedent of a city identifying and confirming cost match for the project. [4:18:55, 4:19:00]: predicate okay we have the city identifying uh confirming c a cost match for the product. [4:19:00, 4:19:01]: Project. [4:19:01, 4:19:07]: This funding is awarded to offset costs of department has or will occur after April first, twenty twenty two. [4:19:07, 4:19:27]: For the purchase of bulletproof vests, the offset amount is fifty percent, and the Department of Justice will reimburse to the city. The Department has fifty-six uh bulletproof vests at a cost of forty-four thousand eight hundred dollars. The reimbursement amount awarded to the city is twenty-two thousand four hundred. The uh count uh to be used to receive the reimbursement is one hundred dash [4:19:27, 4:19:46]: Uh zero zero zero zero zero dash three three four three one seven presented by Chief Trammer. We've already talked about that. So you need a motion. So move. Okay. Uh so move for Barber. Who second that? I second. Miss Miss Grant uh Ms. Kant second that all in favor, please indicate. So you now decision. Fantastic. [4:19:51, 4:19:55]: Uh that was uh that was Blount and then to Barber on the second one. Uhhuh. [4:19:56, 4:20:16]: And then the other last one was Barber DeGantt. Yes. Okay. Council consideration to approve the res uh let's see here. This is okay. On that note, I'm sorry. That that's it for you all. Uh Chief, not the micromanage, but uh can you promote her to major real quick? Oh yeah. Yeah, she's done an excellent job for us, I'll tell you. Congratulations. There you go. [4:20:16, 4:20:21]: Awesome, awesome, awesome, man. The news is great. Appreciate it. [4:20:21, 4:20:22]: Thanks, Chief. [4:20:23, 4:20:43]: Thank you, Captain. Council consideration approved a resolution for the City of Stockbridge to request remittance of 1.904 meals associated with the former police services provided by Henry County Police Department to the City of Stockbridge residents, to the police services July 1st, 2022, to December 31st, 2022, and to amend the service to [4:20:43, 4:20:51]: Delivery strategy, SDS for police services. The city hereby withdraws from the SDS agreement and a need for the police services by Henry Counter County. [4:20:52, 4:20:58]: Further, the city request and improved staff to amend the SDS agreement to reflect the creation of the Stockbridge Police Department. [4:20:58, 4:21:18]: The city further resolves that this resolution to be presented to Henry County as a request to the end Henry County's policing of the city of Stockbridge. Further, the city requests that the city re county reimburse the city of Stockbridge for all the money is owed from July of twenty twenty two four forward. Further, if money is held for policing [4:21:18, 4:21:29]: in the next calendar year, the city requests that the money be sent to the city as well. The revenue document is attached as exhibit A presented by uh Mr. Gardner, please. [4:21:30, 4:21:42]: Good night, man, Council. Since we I think we believe but this this item is part of the the budget. Um I think everybody's quite aware what what this request is going to do so. Um and I'll take any questions. [4:21:43, 4:22:01]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we approve this resolution. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Blount's got a second here. And uh all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. And the next one, council consideration approve the following dates for the redevelopment plan, public hearing and adoption. [4:22:01, 4:22:08]: November twenty ninth, twenty twenty two, first reading and december twelfth, twenty twenty two adoption. Mr. Gardner, please. [4:22:08, 4:22:23]: Yes, good night, Mayor and Council. Once again, um at our last meeting we brought uh to you guys uh update as to what we've been working on in relation to um us developing an urban redevelopment plan as part of OCGA. [4:22:23, 4:22:27]: thirty six forty four, which is the redevelopment powers law. [4:22:27, 4:22:47]: Um that allow for the city to have or to develop a tide. As you know, the residents of Henry County voted in 2020 during a referendum to allow for the cities and the county to have a tide. Um and that was done in 2021. So we're the first gonna be the first up of [4:22:47, 4:22:59]: all the cities to move with the the use of this um major incentive development incentive and as as I try to rem remind you um [4:23:00, 4:23:09]: This this incentive was done um to make Atlantic Station possible, to make um the Camp Creek Marketplace possible. [4:23:10, 4:23:17]: Um and there's been those are two of the most successful ones, I I guess in the Metro. Um, but it's been utilized around the state. [4:23:17, 4:23:21]: Um and we think it's gonna be necessary for us moving forward. [4:23:21, 4:23:41]: To invet to have this available for us as a tool in our toolbox as we look for the redevelopment and revitalization of our downtown highway one through the corridor. And so with that, I'm gonna let our consultant, uh Mr. Gary Manjin, uh, with KP Advisory Group, which is one of the biggest firms that do tide-tide studies around uh [4:23:41, 4:23:50]: Um the state of Georgia and probably in the southeast. So I'm gonna turn it over to Gary. And out he's under the weather a little bit so I'm gonna move away from my seatbelt. Please appreciate that. [4:23:51, 4:23:57]: Um I don't know where the presentation is. [4:23:59, 4:23:59]: Yeah. [4:24:05, 4:24:10]: Did I put it? Well did I PDF? There we go. That's it. [4:24:20, 4:24:37]: That's that's fine. That's right. Okay. Well you've had a long night. Um and I was gonna go for like an hour and a half, but I'll try to I'll try to uh I'll try to go a little faster if I can get rid of this. Um [4:24:42, 4:24:50]: All right, can can you get rid of this? Great. Yeah, that'd be great. [4:24:53, 4:24:55]: Okay. [4:24:58, 4:25:18]: All right, well Fred, Frederick um gave you an introduction of why we're here. Uh the only thing I would add to that is if you want to have this incentive in place to be able to use next year, you have to get it done um before December thirty-first, which is kind of why we're in the process now. If you decide to wait [4:25:18, 4:25:21]: Uh then it'll be a full twelve months before we consider again. [4:25:22, 4:25:35]: So we've been analy analyzing options. Uh we made a presentation a couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago. We are now what I want to do tonight is kind of give you a thumbnail sketch of what's in the plan. [4:25:36, 4:25:56]: And really these redevelopment plans, there there's two or three things they have to do. One is they have to establish the qualifications uh for the redevelopment area that it's appropriate to use this incentive. Um it has to and secondly, it has to identify the tax allocation district and basically provide a business plan. [4:25:56, 4:26:08]: in terms of how the city would implement this plan, uh what it would use the funds for, et cetera, et cetera. So in we went we talked about last time what a redevelopment area is. [4:26:08, 4:26:08]: Um [4:26:10, 4:26:11]: Ian [4:26:11, 4:26:12]: This [4:26:12, 4:26:15]: In red are some of the criteria [4:26:15, 4:26:20]: that are required for designation as a redevelopment area. You don't have to meet every single one. [4:26:20, 4:26:30]: But these are the kind these are some of the criteria that this part of Stockbridge uh qualifies for. And I'll show you the map a little bit later. But [4:26:31, 4:26:33]: Basically there's five different [4:26:33, 4:26:37]: categories that apply to this area we're looking at within the city. [4:26:37, 4:26:52]: Uh one is pervasive poverty, which the statute defines as more than ten percent of the population. Uh the poverty rate in the redevelopment area is about ten point seven percent and it's eighteen percent among families with with children. So you meet that criteria. [4:26:53, 4:27:13]: Talks about high vacancy compared to the political subdivision as a whole. Uh vacancy rates right now in Stockbridge, basically everywhere in Georgia, are very, very low. Uh but in terms of the vacancy rate for all housing types, you're about a percentage point higher than the city average in terms of residential vacancy. That's all [4:27:13, 4:27:33]: All types of housing, single-family, multifamily, mobile homes, et cetera. It talks about declining or stagnant rents or sales prices compared to the community as a whole. We found that apartment rents in the redevelopment area about 13% less than the city average. Retail rents are nearly 22% less than the county average. [4:27:33, 4:27:39]: We couldn't look at retail rents just as in at the city level. [4:27:39, 4:27:45]: And then this final category is substantial presence of structures, basically old buildings with no historic significance. [4:27:45, 4:27:48]: And structures of relatively low value. And when you look at [4:27:49, 4:27:51]: This part of the city [4:27:51, 4:28:11]: Um particularly within the tax allocation district, we found four hundred and eighty thousand square feet of buildings that are more than forty years old. The assessed value of those buildings, including residential and uh commercial, is less than is only about fifty-one dollars a square foot. To build new commercial space, reasonable quality, [4:28:11, 4:28:31]: You're at about$145 to$150 a square foot. So you're like a third of replacement costs right now. And then finally, some parts of your redevelopment area have inadequate infrastructure, not necessarily today, but if you implement the plans, particularly for downtown, clearly the streets, utilities, parking areas are inadequate to be able to do that. [4:28:31, 4:28:51]: Support the plans you have in place. So those are the criteria on which it uh it qualifies as a redevelopment area. I don't know if you see this map very well, but this is what we've proposed as the redevelopment area. It's about 1,350 acres, it's contains about 26% of your city population. [4:28:51, 4:29:03]: That is before annexation, by the way. I I wrote all this stuff about a week to two weeks ago and I I did not know what was gonna happen with the annexation referendum. So all these numbers now will change dramatically. [4:29:04, 4:29:05]: Um [4:29:05, 4:29:22]: It's the rate of population growth since twenty ten has been about a percentage point lower than the city average. I think that's probably overstated because there really hasn't been much new construction in this area. Uh the main difference between this part of the city and the rest of the city is the home ownership rate. [4:29:23, 4:29:27]: is eighteen percent less than the city average. About half of all the housing units in this area [4:29:28, 4:29:32]: A renter occupied, it's because there's three apartment complexes included. [4:29:32, 4:29:34]: in it but also [4:29:34, 4:29:41]: Uh of the single family homes in the redevelopment area, significant percentage are investor owned rental units as opposed to owner occupied. [4:29:42, 4:29:44]: has a young population [4:29:44, 4:30:04]: Um the median owner occupied housing value is about almost thirty percent lower than the city and thirty-seven percent lower than the county median. Uh the meeting age of the housing stock is three years older than the than the city as a whole, and the household income median household income is twelve point nine percent lower than the city and more than the city. [4:30:04, 4:30:15]: than a quarter lower than the county median income respectively. So this area shown on this map clearly qualifies as a redevelopment area under statute. So that's hurdle one. [4:30:17, 4:30:25]: The second hurdle is the tax allocation district. I proposed the map last time we were here. That map is still subject to change. Uh [4:30:26, 4:30:26]: However [4:30:27, 4:30:31]: input we get, we'd be happy to change it, uh add to it, subtract from it. [4:30:31, 4:30:32]: Um [4:30:34, 4:30:39]: Just a couple of points regarding the tax allocation district, just to clear up some possible mis misconceptions. [4:30:40, 4:30:53]: Um communities have a lot of discretion in terms of determining how any revenues available within this tax allocation district uh can be spent. As long as they're eligible purposes, you have complete discretion. [4:30:53, 4:30:58]: In terms of how you spend that money, as long as it's consistent with the purposes of the law. [4:30:59, 4:31:04]: And the purpose of the redevelopment plan is to forecast potential and I'm gonna ask [4:31:04, 4:31:08]: I want to emphasize potential future rest future revenues. [4:31:09, 4:31:22]: Um it's not a f you know, it's not a prediction, it's a it's what's the potential of the TAD to create new tax digest, new increment, and revenues that could be spent for redevelopment purposes. [4:31:22, 4:31:31]: Um the contents of this plan are not binding on the city. If I s say that, you know, we're thinking about allocating [4:31:32, 4:31:41]: you know, three and a half million dollars or six million dollars to parking dexes does not require you to spend that money on parking decks. It's just an outline. It's a again a roadmap. [4:31:41, 4:31:43]: A plan as of today. [4:31:44, 4:31:46]: What a tad doesn't do [4:31:46, 4:31:52]: And sometimes you know people who show up at public hearings will say this it does not impose a tax increase. [4:31:52, 4:31:54]: It doesn't grant an abatement. [4:31:54, 4:31:55]: It doesn't entitle [4:31:56, 4:32:13]: Developers are property owners within the district to get an abatement. Um it has nothing to do with her eminent domain. Um it does not authorize approving this plan does not authorize bond issues or city spending. Those decisions are made afterward. [4:32:14, 4:32:20]: And it doesn't bind the county and school district to participate unless those elected officials vote to do so. [4:32:20, 4:32:28]: So before you can go to the county and school district and ask if they're willing to consent to the TED, you have to adopt the redevelopment plan first. [4:32:28, 4:32:30]: That's the way the process works. [4:32:31, 4:32:31]: Um [4:32:32, 4:32:36]: And no property within the Tad is entitled. I don't stress entitled. [4:32:36, 4:32:40]: to receive TAD funds for any purpose, but they can apply. [4:32:40, 4:32:50]: If i and typically what happens after these plans are approved, after you know what the county and school district are willing to do in terms of consent. [4:32:50, 4:32:53]: Then communities develop policies and procedures to decide [4:32:54, 4:33:06]: Um how to deal with developers, property owners who would like to apply for TAD funds. And that's down the road that would happen sometime next year. And that's not an arduous process. [4:33:07, 4:33:12]: So this slide is the proposed TED. I have not made any changes to the last version. [4:33:12, 4:33:13]: Um [4:33:14, 4:33:34]: There are you know several areas that we could consider adding to this. Um but again this is the boundary currently proposed. It's three hundred and it's actually three hundred and forty-four parcels, not three and about five hundred and one acres. Uh again, this is a work in process. I've I've been refining numbers in the last week. The twenty twenty [4:33:34, 4:33:40]: twenty two tax digest is just under this is the gross tax digest is just under thirty five point nine million dollars. [4:33:42, 4:33:46]: The area's shaded inside this map is a as I say, it's over f five hundred acres. [4:33:47, 4:33:49]: Five hundred acres surrounding this building. [4:33:50, 4:33:52]: So including your downtown. [4:33:53, 4:34:13]: 35.5 million or 35.9 million to digest is a very, very small number. Uh there's about six hundred and fifty thousand square feet of taxable commercial buildings, there's about three hundred and twenty-three housing units. Um we tried to leave out established residential neighborhoods to the extent we could. [4:34:13, 4:34:17]: Like to include some that potentially could increase in value. [4:34:17, 4:34:20]: Um if the improvements were made, but we left out [4:34:20, 4:34:21]: You can see [4:34:22, 4:34:29]: Most of the residential areas inside and surrounding this district are left out, partly because of the city limits, partly because [4:34:30, 4:34:39]: You don't want to get the school district upset by including, you know, residential development uh inside the TAD. [4:34:40, 4:35:00]: Excuse me. Gotta I'm sorry to interrupt you. It it seems like right in the middle of this you you have a it looks like it's surrounded, right? You got a area that's not inside. It's just seem like it's out it's it's it's surrounded by the tad. What right there, yeah. What what is that? That's a um that's a very dense subdivision. And that was a close call to input it in or out. Uh [4:35:00, 4:35:00]: [16501.1, 16502.5]: Is that what that is? Yes. [4:35:03, 4:35:04]: Okay. [4:35:05, 4:35:09]: Yeah, I got it. Yeah. [4:35:09, 4:35:10]: Um [4:35:11, 4:35:25]: The age of housing in this district is nineteen sixty-six. That's the average year built. And that I think that's really important. Uh the average age of commercial development is in the early nineteen seventies. Um and [4:35:25, 4:35:29]: I think the one thing you can say about this tad if the city does not do anything aggressive. [4:35:30, 4:35:34]: Chances are values twenty years from now aren't gonna be significantly different than they are today. [4:35:34, 4:35:54]: And that's basically the question. Do you want to take a risk and do some things and try to change this area or just let it grow as it has organically over time? And that's that's really the question. Um how the TAD works, we went through this slide before, I won't go through it again. But basically, uh as of December 31st, if you approve this redevelopment plan, the [4:35:54, 4:36:10]: The base digest of the TAD would be about 35.9 million. Any increase in value that occurs in the TAD in the future would would be depositive. Any increase in that tax revenue would go to your TAD special fund as opposed to the general funds. [4:36:10, 4:36:17]: The county and school district millage rates are a lot higher than yours, so most of the revenue would come from them, not from the city. [4:36:18, 4:36:19]: Um [4:36:19, 4:36:22]: Which is a another issue, but uh I'll get to that in a minute. [4:36:23, 4:36:23]: Um [4:36:24, 4:36:26]: So the main thing [4:36:26, 4:36:32]: that these plans are supposed to do is identify what's the potential for redevelopment to occur. [4:36:32, 4:36:50]: And the main area that you are all concerned about and interested in that we want to effectuate change is area one, which is your downtown, basically downtown Stockbridge, your urban redevelopment area, and then the the historic portion portion along M MLK Senior Boulevard. [4:36:50, 4:36:51]: Um [4:36:51, 4:36:53]: Senior Heritage Trail. [4:36:53, 4:36:55]: Those two areas together are kind of your downtown. [4:36:57, 4:36:58]: Um [4:36:58, 4:37:18]: So we looked at that. We looked at your comprehensive plan, which proposes to extend Rock Quarry War uh Road all the way to Old Conyers Road, which would open up a significant amount of acreage to future residential development. There is this uh area that's owned by a single area entity in area three that's [4:37:18, 4:37:21]: below Brush Creek that could support some development. [4:37:22, 4:37:42]: Area four is the area we just spent a lot of time discussing that townhome development, as well as the existing apartment complex. I think it's Villas 52, located just on the north side. This apartment complex is uh is valued at about a hundred and two thousand a unit, excuse me, hundred twenty six. [4:37:42, 4:38:02]: 6,000 a unit. It's significantly lower valued than the other two accomplis apartment complexes further to the wheat uh west. And it's also substantially lower than most other apartments in the region. So anything you could do to encourage investment in that property would probably help, although I would not consider it a huge [4:38:02, 4:38:03]: Huge problem. [4:38:03, 4:38:17]: Uh and then you got two more areas on the south side of North Henry Boulevard, uh area five, you get two very large parcels um that could support perhaps some retail, perhaps some residential on the back. [4:38:19, 4:38:21]: So in terms of potential [4:38:21, 4:38:27]: When I do these things, the first thing that always concerns me is there enough potential to justify this effort? [4:38:27, 4:38:40]: And in the case of Stockbridge there is enough potential. These are very significant numbers. I don't know if you'll be able to achieve them, but they're all predicated on being able to implement the downtown plan. [4:38:40, 4:38:43]: Um if the downtown plan is implemented and it works [4:38:44, 4:38:47]: And you've got new investment down there and it becomes an entertainment district. [4:38:48, 4:38:48]: Um [4:38:49, 4:38:54]: then the other components of the plan are likely to happen if things don't change downtown. [4:38:55, 4:38:56]: It probably won't happen. [4:38:57, 4:39:01]: So this area shown on this map, uh the city asked T SW um [4:39:01, 4:39:03]: To kinda consolidate [4:39:03, 4:39:10]: the earlier studies that were done and just give us a realistic what can this area support physically. [4:39:12, 4:39:15]: In conjunction with the recent market study that was completed [4:39:17, 4:39:22]: W how much square footage and value could this part of the city support? [4:39:23, 4:39:30]: And you know, City Hall is just outside the the map here. It includes the triangle on Ward Street. [4:39:30, 4:39:33]: And it keeps going to the uh to the west. [4:39:33, 4:39:34]: Um [4:39:34, 4:39:45]: to the railroad tracks, to the performing arts center, and kind of looks at potential of the of the Presbyterian I think it's Presbyterian Church, of including that into the plan. [4:39:46, 4:39:55]: Um the city already controls a good amount of this property, obviously not all of it. Uh you're thinking about spending significant amount of money on this performing arts center. [4:39:56, 4:39:59]: Um which would be a catalyst to everything else. [4:39:59, 4:40:06]: But anyway, this whole area is twenty-seven acres. There's only 114,000 square feet of buildings on it today. That includes a shopping center to the south. [4:40:07, 4:40:13]: of North Henry Boulevard. The taxable market value, twenty-seven acres right in the center of your community. [4:40:14, 4:40:16]: is less than six milyen dollars. [4:40:17, 4:40:23]: Now part of that is all your institutions, your government buildings, schools, et cetera, are all concentrated in this area. [4:40:23, 4:40:43]: But it's a very small part of your tax digest. And there's 16 housing units. So we think based on this plan, again, we asked TSW to be realistic physically, what could this area support? You can see these numbers, including new construction, residential units, live work townhomes. [4:40:43, 4:40:55]: homes, conventional townhomes, some single-family cottage units. And again, some of this was in your redevelopment plan going all the way back to 2005, the URA plan. [4:40:56, 4:41:14]: And then it leaves another eighty thousand square feet of of buildings on the periphery that are not part of the plan. It could have a taxable future value of almost eighty-nine million dollars when built out. So from five point nine to eighty eight and a half million dollars. Now it's gonna take a decade. [4:41:14, 4:41:16]: It's probably not all gonna happen. [4:41:16, 4:41:20]: But again, you potentially you could have a thirteen [4:41:20, 4:41:23]: Hundred percent increase in the tax digest in this in this area. [4:41:25, 4:41:31]: The rest we didn't have as much uh support in terms of be able to um look at the potential but [4:41:31, 4:41:32]: Um [4:41:33, 4:41:43]: In these two sites two and three, which I showed on the other map, those total a hundred and seventeen point eight acres. That's a lot of acreage. Again, one's on the east side, one's on the west side of your downtown. [4:41:44, 4:41:48]: There's only seven thousand square feet of buildings. The taxable market value is only two point two million. [4:41:49, 4:41:57]: The current digest is only eighty eighty hundred and ninety-one thousand. The city already owns some of these parcels that you've acquired for the uh extension. [4:41:58, 4:42:01]: and doing a very conservative build out [4:42:01, 4:42:21]: Knowing that there's a lot of wetlands here, basically figured 30% of this land wasn't usable because of wetlands, you could easily do over 460 single-family and townhomes on these combined sites. And looking at average market value of 378, which you probably couldn't build today and sell them for the [4:42:21, 4:42:23]: That um [4:42:25, 4:42:31]: You may have you know, your construction costs would probably be higher than those numbers. But assuming the market levelizes, stabilizes [4:42:31, 4:42:33]: And assuming your downtown plan is built. [4:42:34, 4:42:38]: That's another seventy point nine million dollars in potential digest. [4:42:39, 4:42:41]: So again, if I were in your shoes [4:42:42, 4:42:44]: I would want to see this area. [4:42:45, 4:42:58]: the two largest kind of areas of undeveloped land right on the boundaries of your downtown, develop to their maximum potential as opposed to letting nature take its course, because these new households are what will make your downtown viable. [4:43:00, 4:43:15]: And then sites four, five and four and five would be kind of the last part of the plan. Basically you see downtown happening first, areas two and three happening second. This area of the city would probably be last, maybe six or seven years. Nothing happens for six or seven years except [4:43:15, 4:43:18]: The townhome development you were just talking about tonight. [4:43:19, 4:43:20]: And again, I think we're going to be able [4:43:21, 4:43:28]: Knowing there's wetlands, there's also this mobile home park just to the north, you might want to consider including that in the tad. [4:43:28, 4:43:39]: I just wanted to stay out of, not include the self-storage place, the commercial frontage uh on North Henry Boulevard, which is pretty dense already, it's not gonna change. [4:43:39, 4:43:40]: Um [4:43:40, 4:43:48]: This area could either easily, I mean it's almost 80 acres, so it could easily support another hundred and sixty thousand square feet of commercial. [4:43:49, 4:43:51]: some rehabilitation of existing space. [4:43:52, 4:43:52]: Um [4:43:53, 4:44:01]: Rehabilitating the hundred and twenty-eight existing partn apartment units. Hopefully they would increase in value over time, particularly if you provide incentives for that to happen. [4:44:02, 4:44:06]: New multi family probably on one of the one of these two sites on the south side. [4:44:07, 4:44:08]: Um [4:44:08, 4:44:09]: And again [4:44:10, 4:44:19]: Taxable future value could be ninety-one million. Again, it would take fifteen years to happen, but it's another three hundred percent increase in the digest. [4:44:20, 4:44:27]: So when you add all these things together, the potential is pretty substantial. Whether it happens or not, again. [4:44:28, 4:44:28]: It's [4:44:28, 4:44:31]: Depends on whether the plan is inc implemented. [4:44:31, 4:44:51]: Um so with an a modest allowance for redevelopment in the rest of the TAD, which is again the total TAD is five hundred acres. Those five sites we talked about was about three hundred and forty-five acres. So the rest of the TAD isn't even in these calculations. So hopefully you would see one-off investments in individual buildings and smaller neighbors. [4:44:51, 4:44:52]: Neighborhoods. [4:44:53, 4:44:54]: А овертай. [4:44:55, 4:44:57]: It's a potential over twenty five to thirty years. [4:44:58, 4:45:03]: That there'd be, you know, eighty five to a hundred and ten million in TAD increment over that time period. [4:45:03, 4:45:05]: So this graph kinda shows [4:45:05, 4:45:08]: The total tax collections from all three jurisdictions [4:45:09, 4:45:11]: This green line is the increment [4:45:12, 4:45:17]: The the junk the bulk of the revenues come from the school district, obviously the rest of the county. [4:45:18, 4:45:23]: And I have an allowance for city millage rate. Now I had to make an assumption. [4:45:24, 4:45:32]: So I can make an assumption that the city millage rate for the next thirty years will be zero, or I had to put a number in, I chose two. [4:45:33, 4:45:52]: So again that's a political to me if you don't assume any city millage contribution to the TAD fund, I think that just makes your life more difficult to get county and school is to participate. So I just put it in. If you I can take it out, but it's in there now. [4:45:52, 4:45:55]: Real quick. Well the the the uh public safety [4:45:57, 4:46:05]: element, right, would qualify for that public safety element would be uh approvable uh applicable here. [4:46:07, 4:46:11]: See the one point nine public safety the public has been playing would be applicable here? [4:46:13, 4:46:33]: As a I mean the tech the it says the county's not gonna be collecting it anymore. It could be applicable to today when and tomorrow, yes. The the key is when you talk about the adding that much more activity, that much more residential, your the police department won't look the way it looks today. Right. Right? So obviously the police [4:46:33, 4:46:45]: department is going to be much bigger because your city with everything that's that's already we brought into annexation, what's about to develop, and then you're developing, redeveloping an activity center downtown. [4:46:46, 4:46:53]: Your police department is gonna be much bigger than what it is. Um and the resources needed to sustain it is gonna be it's gonna cost. Right. [4:46:54, 4:47:09]: So anyway, there's again I put in two mills. A two millage rate number applied to thirty-four point nine million in digest would generate about seventy-one thousand in city taxes. [4:47:09, 4:47:29]: pretty small. So uh that wouldn't that pay for one officer maybe and a couple of benefits. So anyway, that's the forecast. The plan requires um that you make estimates in terms of how much TAD revenue could be generated and what it would be used for. [4:47:29, 4:47:29]: [17249.9, 17259.4]: Uh if you take this forecast, these are annualized revenues forecasted out with inflation. This is a cumulative number over thirty years. So [4:47:39, 4:47:42]: In the first ten years it would slowly ramp up. [4:47:42, 4:48:02]: And again, as everything is built out uh and values increase, uh it would it would go from there. So this revenue, particularly you know, twenty to thirty years out, may not be all that helpful to you in terms of being able to leverage it for public improvements or private improvements. [4:48:02, 4:48:07]: So again I discounted that revenue stream and came up with a number of about thirty million dollars. [4:48:08, 4:48:15]: Um if the county and the school district and if the city were to institute a two mil millage rate [4:48:16, 4:48:19]: Which I said by no later than twenty twenty four. [4:48:20, 4:48:40]: Um you potentially could finance thirty million dollars worth of improvements. When I say finance, that could be public financing, that could be pay as you go agreements with private developers, it could mean reimbursing doing you know public works bonds or revenue bonds and using TAD funds as one revenue source to pay that debt service. [4:48:40, 4:49:00]: And this is how I allocated it: 15% for roads and infrastructure improvements, another million as for that's four and a half million, one and a half million for parks and amenities, seven and a half million in contributions to structured parking, which may or may not be necessary, but again, that's it's in there in these numbers. [4:49:00, 4:49:20]: Numbers are likely to change. If you were to think of rental housing rehabilitation as being an eligible activity, you could allocate four and a half million, which rehabilitation of those units would pay back in terms of increased increment. And then reserving. [4:49:20, 4:49:30]: the the lion's year about$12 million as direct incentives for catalyst projects. Those will be numbers you those will be contributions you negotiate with developers. [4:49:30, 4:49:32]: To build things the way you want them built. [4:49:32, 4:49:35]: You pay for quality that you want as part of the plan. [4:49:35, 4:49:47]: And you also have an additional ability because you control so much real estate already that you could contribute that real estate along with TAD incentives to really get a much more valuable [4:49:48, 4:49:49]: Um [4:49:49, 4:49:51]: more menetized [4:49:52, 4:49:54]: development than would be possible otherwise. [4:49:56, 4:50:00]: So again that's the recommended uses. These numbers can change. Um [4:50:00, 4:50:08]: There's no magic to them. And then finally, what else is gonna be in this redevelopment plan? Uh probably the most important thing is the way the way it's drafted now. [4:50:09, 4:50:12]: The city council will retain power as the redevelopment agency. [4:50:12, 4:50:13]: For this plan. [4:50:14, 4:50:18]: for the redevelopment powers law. You have the ability to del delegate implementation [4:50:18, 4:50:38]: Tasks to the DDA or the U Urban Redevelopment Agency as needed, but you are the controlling entity. You're not gonna give that responsibility to a third party and let them make all the decisions and not consult you. That's the way the plan's written now. Other communities have done it differently. Um in Douglas County. [4:50:38, 4:50:57]: County, the Economic Development Agency is the redevelopment agent. The plan has to address consistency with your zoning and future land use map. Based on the discussion tonight, I think that's important. As a requirement, you've got to confirm the city's commitment to follow historic preservation. [4:50:58, 4:51:02]: policies it establishes a potential thirty year life for the Tad. [4:51:02, 4:51:13]: Could go as long as fifty years, I doubt the county and school district would go along. The city could dissolve the TAD at any time prior to thirty years, as long as you don't have outstanding obligations. [4:51:14, 4:51:21]: Uh so if things don't work out, five years, ten years from now, you can you can dissolve this tad. Um [4:51:21, 4:51:41]: And it gives you the way the plan's written, I've given you maximum flexibility to use whatever approaches to finance projects, including issuing bonds, not requiring you to issuing bonds, but just give you maximum flexibility to do respond to any opportunity down the road. And then finally, we have to do a school impact analysis on the Henry County. [4:51:41, 4:52:01]: County schools. Those impacts will be significant if we're talking, you know, close to a thousand units, new construction, rehabilitation. There will be impacts on the schools. They will probably want to negotiate some kind of reduction to their increment. [4:52:01, 4:52:21]: And then finally, all the individual TAD parcels would be included in the appendix. So what happens next? Um, a week from now, you will have the draft redevelopment plan. I basically only have to do the school impact analysis and tweak some things, it's ready to go. The public hearing would be on the twenty ninth. [4:52:21, 4:52:22]: Ninth of November. [4:52:24, 4:52:28]: Uh up until that hearing and even after that hearing you can incorporate changes [4:52:29, 4:52:49]: Uh right now we're anticipating you would vote on this December twelfth. And if you do vote uh on the resolution authorizing the TAD, you would submit a request to the county assessor before the end of the month to certify the accuracy of the TAD parcels, and that goes to the Commissioner Revenue and you should by the end of uh January. [4:52:49, 4:52:58]: Where I get a letter that the TAD is created. And from that point forward till it's dissolved, the County Board of Assessors does a separate TAD digest every year. [4:53:00, 4:53:06]: And then in the first quarter twenty two, you would request consent of the county and school district and negotiate with them. [4:53:08, 4:53:28]: And from that point, once you know what's in the kitty, once you know you know what the terms of participation are, then you have the ability uh to negotiate with developers, offer city owned parcels to the private sector, establish policies, uh, et cetera. Okay. You mean January twenty twenty three at [4:53:28, 4:53:47]: First quarter twenty twenty three, right? Yes. Okay. I'm sorry, yeah, that's a typo obvious. Okay. So yeah, first quarter. Um those negotiations have gone anywhere, in my experience, from you know, one night to eighteen months. So um and I think that's it. [4:53:49, 4:54:09]: We will do an abbreviated version of this presentation for the public hearing, so you'll see it again. And again, any input you may have, uh you have you know you basically have another month if you between now and voting on the resolution to make changes. Uh but you'll have the draft next. [4:54:09, 4:54:13]: Next week. [4:54:14, 4:54:15]: Basically this is what it's gonna say. [4:54:16, 4:54:28]: I appreciate the brief. So what uh appreciate a lot of information. I gotta I personally gotta let this sink in. Uh but otherwise tonight you n you need this a motion for us to go forward or or you just this is just information for us here tonight? [4:54:28, 4:54:34]: So tonight you guys we we will ask for and if I can go back hearing. [4:54:35, 4:54:37]: The for us to have the uh [4:54:39, 4:54:44]: Public hearing? Right. On the twenty ninth. On the twenty ninth. [4:54:45, 4:55:05]: I think we went two far back. Yes. So for us to hold a hearing on the public night one um and the adoption on the twelfth, we'll go ahead and advertise those dates, um, put them in the papers and advertise those dates, and then um we'll bring the um public hearing announce the ordinances in place for us to adopt the plan. [4:55:05, 4:55:06]: Mm. [4:55:06, 4:55:08]: Um on the twelfth. [4:55:08, 4:55:12]: Okay. So we don't have to vote tonight. Yeah. Oh not oh [4:55:12, 4:55:17]: Unless you just want us well, do we have to vote for them to to choose the base? I get it. [4:55:17, 4:55:19]: No, to choose the dates. Um [4:55:20, 4:55:22]: November twenty ninth, twenty. [4:55:22, 4:55:42]: twenty two um and uh december twelfth, twenty twenty two uh as our public hearing and adoption. You just want a motion to accept this adoption process, I suppose. Stand stand by please, Ms. Gantt. Yes, what's the question, sir? Um [4:55:43, 4:55:50]: W what is it what what's the difference in doing it on the twenty ninth versus doing it the first meeting in January? [4:55:51, 4:56:11]: Well, if you wait till January C said, it kicks you another year in the case. Oh, okay. Okay. This if this process is done in twenty twenty three and we get an agreement from the school board, we can then start using those funds. If you don't do it that way, you'll have to wait until twenty twenty four before you get it. But here's the thing. Do you have to have [4:56:11, 4:56:19]: Have because you started the process, do you have to have um the school board has to give us a yes before the end of the year? [4:56:21, 4:56:41]: No, negotiations can go into next year. Um yeah, it's too late to start that process. Some communities have tried it and succeeded. Uh they've adopted the plans early enough and gotten the school districts to go on board. Um but they cannot act they cannot act, they cannot vote on anything until [4:56:41, 4:57:00]: Until the redevelopment plan is approved and you adopt your resolution and the TAD is in place. So unfortunately, I mean you're at risk. You go through all this effort and they could say, you know, no, we're not gonna participate. The county could say, no, we're not gonna participate. But [4:57:00, 4:57:02]: Yeah, that's the way it the way it's written. [4:57:02, 4:57:22]: No, I got but what I'm saying is that so but so they can't hinder the process once we start it with the with the recommended days to have a hearing. No. Since the process already started, don't matter what they say, that we don't have to wait. But if they say yes, then we already in the process. Correct. Yeah. You would you would adopt the plan and then they [4:57:22, 4:57:42]: They would act upon it. I would not, I would suggest as a as a courtesy, um, you know, the plan will be ready next Monday. Uh you could send drafts to, you know, County Commission, School, Board of Education, at least the staff members of those organizations, and tell them, you know, Stockbridge has its draft. [4:57:42, 4:57:50]: I think they know now. [4:57:51, 4:58:06]: For some reason I think they know now. Yeah. I will tell you that the county does know. I I hadn't a chance to speak to a school board, but I've spoken to the county manager about this um back in September, so they're aware that we're we're working on this process. [4:58:07, 4:58:23]: Okay. It questions down this way? Just uh very briefly. The one thing that I wanna highlight on is that our our housing. A hundred and s uh nineteen sixty six is what you said, right? We talk a lot about affordable housing, but [4:58:24, 4:58:44]: We are missing m medium price housing. We need to elevate the housing prices here uh in this particular area to qu quality development, four hundred, five hundred thousand dollar homes in the area that we have none of at this present time. That's what came back in the Georgia Tech study for the DDA. [4:58:44, 4:58:51]: is that we were missing that component, uh especially in this area, which was quality homes. Absolutely. [4:58:51, 4:59:09]: And that's what you know, communities are selectively using these incentives to get developers to pay for quality that they couldn't afford otherwise. Um and you and you really have to look at it that way. Um it's not a giveaway to developers, you're using it as a negotiating tool to get what you want. [4:59:09, 4:59:16]: Um to implement your downtown plan and then to get quality of development around your downtown that makes everything work. [4:59:17, 4:59:17]: Mm-hmm. [4:59:18, 4:59:30]: Okay, the questions go ahead please, sir. Uh I I wanna get a better map, um, especially on the other side of uh North Hendry Boulevard. [4:59:32, 4:59:46]: Okay. I'll give that to you by two more. Yeah. I just wanna see that my protein you're talking about? Yeah, I I wanna I wanna see how deep I see what City Hall is, but I just wanna see [4:59:46, 4:59:47]: Street names and [4:59:47, 5:00:06]: Yeah, I just wanna see how deep does it go uh on the other side of North Henry Boulevard. I I I get that on the on the right side near the where the cultural arts uh site is. I I mean I get that, the Presbyterian, but I wanna see the other side of uh North Henry Boulevard. [5:00:07, 5:00:07]: Okay. [5:00:08, 5:00:28]: I think you know there's a reasonable justification since you're investing all this money in parks to include maybe some parcels down here. And possibly, you know, you've got a pretty sizable mobile home park up here. Um so it could take a second look at you know what's north of this area. [5:00:28, 5:00:38]: area four. Those are really the only two things that stood out to me as potential additions. Uh you run into the city limits a little bit further south and north, so [5:00:41, 5:00:42]: Okay. Any other questions? [5:00:44, 5:00:46]: I don't have a question. I'd like to make a motion. [5:00:51, 5:00:53]: Yeah, you would originally go and make a motion. [5:00:54, 5:01:04]: Oh. I second. Okay. Can't to uh Barber. Any further discussion? All favor please indicate. [5:01:04, 5:01:07]: Okay. Unanimous decision. Yes, sir. You good? [5:01:07, 5:01:11]: Well I I know a a recommendation for the dates. [5:01:11, 5:01:15]: They're they're already on here. Okay. They're the the dates are already on here. Okay. [5:01:15, 5:01:21]: Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. We look forward to uh getting that uh document, I guess, uh within the next week. [5:01:21, 5:01:23]: All right. Thank you. [5:01:24, 5:01:37]: Council consideration to authorize the city of Stockbridge to publish a notice of intake uh to take action to increase the annual compensation. The mayor from fourteen four to twenty two, city council members twelve to [5:01:37, 5:01:38]: Twenty. [5:01:38, 5:01:42]: Effect of January one, uh, twenty twenty four. Mr. Washington, please. [5:01:45, 5:01:46]: Make it quick, y'all. [5:01:51, 5:02:11]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. I was asked to assist in the drafting of the resolution for the notice for pay increases for you all. And so I drafted it for your consideration. And the precedent to that is to get the approval from you all to be able to post it in the paper, et cetera, to go from there. And so [5:02:11, 5:02:24]: up to you all to decide what was proposed, but the proposal that I had came from you all and it's up for your consideration. So thank you. Mayor. Yes sir. Is there a public hearing or anything attached to this? Um [5:02:25, 5:02:30]: No probab no uh no public uh publish a notice of intent. Uh [5:02:32, 5:02:35]: Okay. I just want to go ahead and make the motion for approval. [5:02:36, 5:02:37]: Okay. I have a question. [5:02:38, 5:02:40]: All right. [5:02:40, 5:02:47]: You said the uh everyt came f it came from the this came everything came from the council? Yes. [5:02:47, 5:02:54]: I'm I'm not aware of these numbers or anything. So when you say it came from the council, who did it what do you mean it came from the council? [5:02:54, 5:02:55]: Uh Councilman Thomas. [5:02:58, 5:02:59]: Okay. [5:03:00, 5:03:08]: Any further discussion. Okay, you wanna make a if if not, you wanna make a motion, sir? Motion to approve recomm the recommendation written by the city attorney. [5:03:08, 5:03:15]: Okay, zero second. Okay, Member Portem second that. Any further discussion? Yes. All right, go ahead please. [5:03:15, 5:03:31]: Um, one of the things I look at at this council is that when we talk about all these expenditures that we have at hand at hand right now, we have not yet formulated or have in hand anything that's showing us a path forward. [5:03:32, 5:03:35]: and our expenditure for s sustainability for the city. [5:03:36, 5:03:49]: Um and we've got s uh capital improvement projects on board. We've got all these monies that are going out. We gotta increase our police department, we've got increase services. All of these things with expenditures that we have out. [5:03:51, 5:03:55]: And none of us have anything in hand to show us our path forward. [5:03:57, 5:04:03]: tangible information showing our path forward. All I know is what I've been told. [5:04:04, 5:04:08]: Nothing in hand and what I know what our financial advisor told us. [5:04:08, 5:04:17]: And so now they come at this time right now for a raise when we have no idea where all the money's gonna come from as it is for the expenditures that are already out there. [5:04:19, 5:04:20]: I say no. [5:04:20, 5:04:22]: Okay, any further discussion? [5:04:23, 5:04:25]: Okay, if no further discussion, all in favor of the motion please indicate? [5:04:27, 5:04:28]: Okay, all polls? [5:04:29, 5:04:29]: Abstain. [5:04:30, 5:04:33]: Okay, so it's three one one. Motion passed. [5:04:34, 5:04:50]: Okay. And the next item uh dealt with um uh looking at having a um a volunteer uh luncheon or dinner, I guess, for citiz says uh citizens volunteers for the past year. And Mayor Pro Tem you wanna discuss that please? [5:04:50, 5:04:54]: Yeah, um originally we made a motion to put it on here, James. [5:04:55, 5:05:14]: Right. And now I want to motion uh for council to authorize the reallocation of the 2022 Halloween event finding that for Ariel King Heritage Trail. [5:05:16, 5:05:25]: Okay. So let me go back. Yeah, yes, sir. Well to do what? That's the motion, but I I elaborate uh during the discussion. [5:05:25, 5:05:27]: Okay, motion's been made. Zero seconds to the motion. [5:05:28, 5:05:32]: Second. Okay. Mr. Alzheimer's second ask. Okay, discussion phase, sir. Go ahead, please. [5:05:35, 5:05:45]: As you know, Mr. Alexander, um you make the motion and the council approving um uh uh breaking out. [5:05:46, 5:06:02]: Stop my mic on, I'm sorry. Um Mr. Alexander, you made a motion for the Main Street program to um plan a Halloween event on ML King Harris's trail. [5:06:02, 5:06:04]: Discounted approved. [5:06:04, 5:06:24]: Um but it it did not happen. So those are the funds that I'm asking council to reallocate for uh the volunteer uh dinner. Um as we all know, you know, we have a a number of um [5:06:24, 5:06:40]: board members, volunteers, that always meet the challenge and the call when we reach out to them. And I think they really serve us well as far as volunteering. And I think it's only fitting [5:06:40, 5:06:42]: during the holiday season. [5:06:42, 5:07:02]: To show them exactly how much uh we appreciate them in volunteering and serving on the various boards. So, but again, the funding sources would be those funds that were earmarked for um M.L. King Heritage Trail, which uh did not happen. [5:07:02, 5:07:03]: [18424.8, 18425.3]: Okay. [5:07:06, 5:07:07]: Any further conversation? [5:07:08, 5:07:26]: And what I recall, Mayor Pro Tem, this is for Saturday, December tenth. Um I'm s yes. Um in the original motion I did indicate and I checked with um the Merrmanners Conference Center calendar. So December the tenth uh is available. [5:07:26, 5:07:28]: Okay. [5:07:29, 5:07:33]: No further discussion. All in favor of the motion, please any I'm sorry. What's the amount of the funds you were talking about? [5:07:33, 5:07:38]: ten thousand. Ten thousand. What's the month? Ten thousand that I think they had allocated. Ten thousand. [5:07:40, 5:07:43]: Say ten thousand is what I've been told. I'd like that to be put in a motion, please. [5:07:44, 5:08:03]: I would like that to be put into motion, please. Well, you have okay. Um I am my motion to add the dollar amount of ten thousand dollars, which was approved by this council, to uh for the main street. [5:08:03, 5:08:23]: Um well f for the ML King Harris senior trail for a Halloween uh event and it was in the amount of uh ten thousand that was um motioned and approved. Okay. I I I second that and uh say that uh we made the right choice. [5:08:23, 5:08:28]: Miss Cant, you did a good job on your Halloween event. It wasn't necessary for this event. [5:08:29, 5:08:49]: All right, good deal. All right, so that's been added to that motion. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate? I do have um is that a comment I wanted to well, I wanted to ask Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Initially I spoke about a employee volunteer appreciation dinner for the holidays. Will this also include employees? [5:08:49, 5:08:51]: [18531.6, 18533.6]: Uh uh. [5:08:54, 5:08:56]: For employee and volunteer. [5:09:00, 5:09:01]: Not just volunteer. [5:09:04, 5:09:05]: Okay. [5:09:06, 5:09:23]: I'm I'm sorry. The employees have two dinners already. I'm not saying that don't invite them, but we already have we have two dinners set aside and then they get a bonus check during Thanksgiving. Oh they get Ms. They get the check and they get the two dinners. [5:09:24, 5:09:44]: I'm sorry, not bonus, but you know. Well they they don't get a bonus. Okay. Okay. They don't get a check. Hold on. Hold on a second. What I wanna what I wanna be cautious of is the when you say it to staff and employees, I don't [5:09:44, 5:09:51]: I don't know how many employees we have, maybe seventy five. Too many. [5:09:53, 5:10:02]: A hundred well, we have a hundred and fifty employees. Um and I'm working on the numbers of the boards and the volunteers, so [5:10:04, 5:10:05]: Ha ha ha. [5:10:05, 5:10:13]: My thinking is we may need to because we're talking about the board members, the volunteers and their plus one. [5:10:14, 5:10:27]: So I don't want this to really just get out of hand. I want us to be able to manage the numbers. Gotcha. And and and and be honest with you, we may not even need to use the whole ten. [5:10:27, 5:10:28]: Okay. [5:10:28, 5:10:28]: Mm. [5:10:29, 5:10:42]: I just want us to to do it and and Mr. Alexander in your motion, um I I'm fine. I'm fine with that. Well good. So we we gotta understand. Okay, so let's try this again. All favorite motion, please indicate. [5:10:43, 5:10:47]: Okay, all okay. So you pull okay, it's five. Dynamics decision. All right. [5:10:49, 5:11:09]: Announcements and upcoming events. Council meetings will be held in City Council chambers, meeting dates, location, times are subject to change. Please visit the city website at uh www.citystarbridge dot com for the meeting invitation. Link, Facebook page of contact city offices at seven seven zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred for updates. [5:11:09, 5:11:29]: Citywide Development Authority meeting 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, November 15th. You council advisory committee meeting 6:30, third through third Tuesday of each month. Levi meeting room city hall November 15th. Planning Commission meeting fourth Thursday at 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council. [5:11:29, 5:11:38]: Chambers November 17th. City Council Work Session Meeting Tuesday, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, November 29th. [5:11:38, 5:11:58]: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. City Levi, City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, December 9th. City Council meeting, second Monday of each month, City Hall, Council Chambers, December 12th. And U Council meeting 6:30, second Monday of each month. So City Hall Levi Meeting Room. And that's the City Hall on December. [5:11:58, 5:12:18]: Number twelve. Now um I I do have one correction when you get to that point. Okay. A continued salute to uh veterans, please forward uh pictures of veterans, including name, branch, rank, and years of service as Mayor Pro Tem Thomas presents a special tribute to our local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Rosam Raw. [5:12:18, 5:12:38]: Rawls at R. Rawls at City of Stockbridge dash G A dot G-O-V and thank you for your service. Please join Councilwoman Barber for a free zoom on every Saturday morning at Clark Park, Clark Community Park, 8 a.m. Come out for your fitness in the park. The City of Stockbridge will be distributing free turkeys while [5:12:38, 5:12:58]: Supplies last on Saturday, November 19th, at Merrill Manos Conference Center parking lot 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Mary Portin Thomas and the Henry County Fire Department will be distributing free smoke detectors by supplies last on Saturday, November 19th, in the parking lot at Merrill Manos Conference Center from 10 a.m. to 12. [5:12:58, 5:13:00]: twelve noon. Correction. Okay. [5:13:02, 5:13:16]: Okay. Correction Glacier. Um the Henry County Pol fire department will not be participating. Um Wales will be um participating. [5:13:16, 5:13:17]: Okay. [5:13:17, 5:13:37]: All right. And uh join Mayor Ford for his monthly meet the mayor on Monday, November twenty-eighth from ten AM to twelve noon. Please contact Rosland Rawls to schedule an in-person appointment. R Rawls at city of stopbridge dash G dot Gov or call six seven eight-eight three three three three four eight. Please [5:13:37, 5:13:57]: Please join the City of Star Breach for the annual holiday festival featuring Santa and Mrs. Claus and live nativity scene, live entertainment, inflatables, rides and DJing food trucks on Thursday, December first, from five PM to nine PM at the Stockbridge Amphitheater parking lot. Please join the City of Star Breach for the Annual Holiday Festival. [5:13:57, 5:14:17]: Wait a minute, that's a duplicate there. Okay. Bingle is back. Please join Councilman Blount on Wednesday, December 7th, from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merylman's Conference Center for lots of fun. And my particular comments for today would be first thing, congratulations to the additional citizens. [5:14:17, 5:14:23]: citizens that citizen that voted to annex into the city on November eighth. Fantastic. [5:14:23, 5:14:43]: Uh I would say that that you'll you'll be proud citizens, that uh we protected and served you well and uh you'll be happy for the rest of your living days while you're in the city of living Stockbridge that you're a member of the Stockbridge City uh government or m members of City uh City of Stockbridge. So it's up to us to to listen to you and and continue to have uh [5:14:43, 5:15:03]: uh do good things for you in this process and have open dialogue in this aspect. So congratulations and thank you for voting. That's come becomes effective one uh one January. And obviously you'll get uh each individual council member will have a specific uh council chambers, uh council um uh districts in this aspect as well so you'll get familiar with [5:15:03, 5:15:23]: With the particular uh council members that will represent your Pacific district in this aspect. So fantastic. Um mayor forward. Yes, sir. Um I'd like to also extend an invitation to uh Chief Chairman and the Stockbridge Police Department. Chief, you may recall uh [5:15:23, 5:15:25]: Um [5:15:25, 5:15:34]: Last year at Smith Barney Elementary School, um, you all assisted in the um Smoke Alarm giveaway. [5:15:34, 5:15:36]: So um [5:15:37, 5:15:57]: You you know, you can you can contact me, see if that's something that uh some of y you and your officers may want to do. It would be on the very same day that we will be doing the turkey giveaway and we'll just be on the far end uh of the line giving away the uh smoke alarm. But uh you can let me know if this [5:15:57, 5:16:00]: something that you know you wanna get involved in. [5:16:02, 5:16:22]: And prayers and condolences to the family members who actually uh unfortunately perished in a home fire that's located uh here in Stockbridge. It's well documented with on the news and uh local newspaper and and and television in this aspect. So prayers to that family and congratulations uh to the Henry County Sheriff Department for capturing [5:16:21, 5:16:41]: uh an individual that uh was uh evading their um invading them of course but come do but they found him due to the fact that uh course he had uh killed and shot uh someone so congratulations to them as well. Um happy belated veterans day to all the veterans. Um uh we had a great uh Veterans Day activity a couple of days ago. [5:16:41, 5:17:00]: um actually on Friday, and so congratulations and continue to uh let us continue to serve in your community as best as you can. Um the other thing I'd like to mention is that uh as you well know that Michael Harris, a Stockbridge resident, Stockbridge High School graduate, is up for National League Rookie of the Year. [5:17:01, 5:17:06]: It hasn't been determined yet that I know of, but uh his his actual competition, believe it or not, is another Atlanta Brave. [5:17:06, 5:17:07]: It's also a rookie. [5:17:08, 5:17:19]: uh strider, I believe his name is. So but we'll see what happens here when they make the final selection. So one way or the other we got to get Michael Harris up here and to the city council and honor him as well. [5:17:19, 5:17:31]: And ladies and gentlemen, as you well know, that uh uh you voted on November eighth and uh we now have a uh runoff election between Senator Warnock and uh Herschel Walker. [5:17:31, 5:17:34]: So early voting starts on uh the uh [5:17:34, 5:17:35]: Monday. [5:17:36, 5:17:56]: Uh November twenty-eighth. Uh so it's your constitutional right to uh vote. So hopefully you are registered and uh you go vote and uh it's your constitutional right once again, and of course it's your civic duty. And uh we shall see what happens when uh after we we have this uh runoff results. Uh so [5:17:56, 5:18:03]: Well God bless y'all. That's all I have for tonight. And uh counsel, need to ask you whether or not we're gonna go into executive session or not. [5:18:06, 5:18:07]: Mm-hmm. [5:18:07, 5:18:27]: I know. If it's not gonna go to second session, then uh So legal does have a request for executive session and we have some uh guidelines we like for you all to follow if we do go into executive session because you all be able to remain on the DS tonight for it. And we we've talked with IT and security about turning off the cameras and the microphones. [5:18:27, 5:18:33]: And they would secure the doors from the outside and not be in here so that way we'd have space and we did this. [5:18:34, 5:18:35]: All right, so [5:18:35, 5:18:40]: I okay, so uh why I need a motion to go to the second session, uh if that is the case, we will do so. [5:18:41, 5:18:45]: And we'll take a break for y'all to get, you know, something to eat, but then we'll come back in here and do it. [5:18:48, 5:18:58]: Need a motion to go into it. Motion to go in the mayor. Uhhuh. Motion to go in the you wanna make motion. Okay, you motion for the so it's gonna be personal, legal and and real estate. Yes, sir. [5:19:02, 5:19:04]: Oh, and there is one real there is one real estate item too. [5:19:05, 5:19:14]: All right. So are we secure? Real estate and personnel, yeah. That once we tell them they know how to do they have a proceeding in place for securing the room for you all to be stay where you are. [5:19:16, 5:19:23]: Let's just l no break, let's just go on straight in. Let's go ahead and move through. Okay. [5:19:24, 5:19:26]: Uh the Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, put your motion, please sir. [5:19:27, 5:19:31]: Executive session for personnel real estate. [5:19:32, 5:19:33]: Litigation. [5:19:35, 5:19:40]: And litigation, sir. Is there a second? Second. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [5:19:40, 5:19:41]: All right. [5:19:42, 5:19:44]: We will go into second session. Okay. [5:19:46, 5:19:46]: [19187.2, 19196.0]: They're gonna go ahead and turn the camera they're gonna turn the cameras off. We're not gonna be live streaming and we're gonna turn the mics off as well. So they won't be able to hear outside security leaving man the doors from the outside. [5:20:09, 5:20:10]: Yeah. [5:20:24, 5:20:26]: Everything off now. [5:20:27, 5:20:28]: Is everything off? [5:20:29, 5:20:30]: There came out.

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When the observance was started, it mainly served as a call to action for the movement and its prosperity. But over the years, the LGBTQ Plus History Month has evolved into a national blind random effort to bring an extraordinary [0:05:35, 0:05:40]: I think we see one of L G V T U plus community to the spotlight. [0:05:40, 0:06:00]: And whereas everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, respect, compassion, and justice regardless of gender, age, race, religion, economic status, and sexual orientation. And whereas the city of Stockholm supports the rights of every individual to experience equality of treatment and values, our diverse population are less. [0:06:00, 0:06:20]: Bitnesses, visitors recognizing that this diversity is one of this community's greatest strengths. Whereas in recognition of the important contributions that LGGTQ plus individuals and groups have made to our city, to the arts, economics, and business, education, government, sports, medicine, law, journalism, science, and technical. [0:06:19, 0:06:39]: Technology and so many other fields, all of which have made us a better, richer, stronger community. Now, therefore, I am this war members of the Lord investing as a merit city scarcely Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members, Alexander, Bob McCoff, you can and follow the top food here by proclaim October has [0:06:42, 0:07:01]: I'm encouraged all residents to celebrate and reflect on the diverse heritage of our once marginalized community and continue to strengthen and enrich our city as describes and create a society that is more just, peaceful, and prosperous, prosperous to be before all. Witness thereof I have here unto step my hand. [0:07:01, 0:07:06]: Based on the city stock we're doing, conflict day of top here about lower. [0:07:08, 0:07:09]: That's a holiday. [0:07:14, 0:07:19]: Yeah, I have several here. Uh uh [0:07:21, 0:07:37]: We can have your own as well. And actually, Ben, if you want to add two uh three more. Okay, all right, all right. So on that note, uh when we do this, uh we have comments. So what comments you want to make? The floor is yours. [0:07:38, 0:07:45]: Well I just wanna say like told Councilman Parton that uh the city of Startbridge has always been problematic. [0:07:48, 0:07:52]: Any of them I've ever attended a welcome and [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: Yeah. [0:08:05, 0:08:05]: Okay. [0:08:10, 0:08:13]: It's cute. Uh [0:08:39, 0:08:59]: We'll go to it. I have this story because this is the very first time we've done a since these operations I imagine it will continue to be every October we will announce this uh this particular month. So all right. Uh we've probably taken pictures. Sure, we could if we if you want uh we got it coming on. [0:08:59, 0:09:04]: But we've got to come on one side because Council, you wanna come on down this way? [0:09:05, 0:09:09]: You put it together here? [0:09:11, 0:09:15]: Yeah, well come on, the spot is one of the [0:09:19, 0:09:22]: So I'm not paying any green. [0:09:25, 0:09:26]: Is that forward you might want to set that? [0:09:40, 0:09:57]: Yeah. [0:09:57, 0:09:59]: Okay. [0:10:18, 0:10:38]: Okay, what is next on the agenda is a presentation of the new online tool, Citizens Connect, which allows citizens of the city of Stockbridge to search crimes and incidents in the community, presented by uh Chief Tramor. And and uh Chief Trammer, right. I guess Mr. Goffrey's not gonna be with you tonight, sir. Uh no, sir. Okay. Okay. [0:10:37, 0:10:43]: me this evening. I see. Um but I think I can manage his solo. I'm pretty sure you can, Chief. No problem. [0:10:43, 0:11:03]: Can somebody administer the air conditioning? Okay, well, um hopefully, uh Mayor and Council, you all can see this on your screen. I appreciate the opportunity to present this valuable tool to you this evening, but most importantly, this presentation is really for the citizens of the city of Stockbridge. Uh we made a commitment uh to really be a model for 21st century policing, and one of the pillars of 21st century policy [0:11:03, 0:11:23]: century policing is building trust and legitimacy with the community. And one of the ways that we do that is being transparent in how we operate and transparent in how we act. And the two this presentation and also the initiative that we have before council this evening for the Citizens Police Advisory Council are two such initiatives that demonstrate our commitment to transparency with the community that we serve. [0:11:24, 0:11:26]: А the Citizen Connect amp [0:11:26, 0:11:36]: is a forward facing application is connected directly to our law enforcement database which will allow members of our community to visualize uh crime that's occurring in the community. [0:11:36, 0:11:46]: And will also allow members of the community to also visualize uh what our officers are doing, where they're spending their time, where they're responding to instances incidents. [0:11:47, 0:12:06]: Um for those who are interested in downloading the uh application or downloading, it's not really an application, it's a web-based platform. Uh you can find the link on our Facebook page, the Stockbridge Police Department Facebook page, but at the end of this presentation, I'm also going to share that link so that members of the community are able to copy that information down and uh to [0:12:07, 0:12:14]: hopefully uh by virtue of this presentation this evening give members of the community a better understanding in terms of how this system operates. [0:12:15, 0:12:35]: And so I wanted to demonstrate this for you. It's called Citizens Connect because Stockbridge is a place where community connects. And so we wanted to connect our citizens with the data inside our police department. As you can see here on the screen, there's an overlay of the map with the city limits of the city of Stockbridge. You can zoom in and out of this map to view, and as you see on here, there's no [0:12:35, 0:12:37]: data that's currently represented on this map, it's blank. [0:12:37, 0:12:40]: And that's because we haven't selected the filters that we want to see. [0:12:41, 0:12:45]: If you notice at the top portion here, Stockbridge is divided into four geographic sectors. [0:12:46, 0:13:05]: We have officers assigned consistently to those four geographic sectors. If you look here, we have sector 1901, and when we click on 1901 here, you can see this is the area represented by Sector 1901. So if citizens want to know what sector am I in in, what officers work in that area, then they're able to visualize that data here. [0:13:05, 0:13:20]: Uh sector nineteen oh two is this area here, so you can visualize that where you're located. Sector nineteen oh three is situated here and then sector nineteen oh four is if we click off that is situated in the very southern part of the city. [0:13:21, 0:13:25]: Now I'll click off of these map layers for just a second to be able to illustrate uh [0:13:26, 0:13:33]: The information here. So members of the community, if they're interested in seeing, let's say, crime data, they want to see what are the crimes that are occurring in our community. [0:13:34, 0:13:35]: Uh what they would have to do there's [0:13:36, 0:13:42]: In the lower left hand portion here a section that says date range and you'll notice it's selected right now the past week. [0:13:42, 0:14:02]: So we can select whatever range we want. We can do a custom date range in here. You can enter your own series of dates, or you can select the pre-populated. So let's just look at crime data for the last month. So we've selected here the date range for the past month. And there are three categories in the lower left-hand corner. The first one is incidents. Now, incidents are calls that often [0:14:02, 0:14:15]: So if an officer pulls out on a traffic stop, if they respond to a burglar alarm or something along those lines where there's not a report that's taken, that would be represented by incidents. [0:14:15, 0:14:32]: If an officer actually takes a report, if there's a crime that's committed, um or a report is generated by virtue of their response to an incident, it's going to be reflected as a case. And so you would collect the the case portion. And of course accidents are pretty self explanatory. If we click on that we can see where the accidents are occurring in the city. [0:14:32, 0:14:40]: So let's focus here for just a second on cases which are gonna represent crimes that are occurring in the city. So we're looking at this data and we're visualizing it for the past month. [0:14:41, 0:14:55]: If you click, it's difficult to see here, but there's a grayed out check mark next to cases. If you were to click that, what it's going to do is it's going to pull up for you all of the cases that have occurred in the city within the last month, and you're going to be able to see on here. [0:14:55, 0:15:15]: Where those incidents are occurring. So every one of these scale icons right here represent an incident in which a report was taken. So if you're interested in seeing what additional details, so what was this incident that happened here? You hover over it, it's going to tell you that this is a report regarding a runaway. If we go down here, this was an aggravated assault case that occurred here. [0:15:15, 0:15:22]: If you click over here, it's gonna tell you this was a missing person's case. So this represents all the reports that officers are taking on a regular basis. [0:15:23, 0:15:43]: If you see something like this, it's represented by two. It lets you know that there are two incidents that occurred at that particular location. If you click on the pin, it's going to expand it, and then you can see uh what those two incidents were. So you can see that there was a runaway and a missing person. Um and for privacy of members of the community, we don't include the actual address, so it's represented in the actual [0:15:43, 0:15:48]: block number when we're talking about residential areas. So you can see here where these crimes are occurring. [0:15:49, 0:16:09]: Now, if you're interested to know, for example, what's occurring in your community, so let's look for an e i is an example here. We have Monarch Village in this area represented right here. You can see in the last uh month that there were four or actually there were six incidents. Uh we had a hit and run accident, we had a forgery for [0:16:08, 0:16:09]: Broad [0:16:10, 0:16:29]: There was a theft, a terroristic threat, and then uh there was an identity theft and another theft that occurred in the last month in this area here. One of the interesting things, and I think a valuable tool for members of our community is once you sign up for an account, what you can do is you can actually go up here and you can create an alert. [0:16:30, 0:16:43]: Uh you can name it whatever you want to. You can decide what the frequency is that you want to receive these alerts. If you want to receive them daily, you want to receive them weekly, you can receive them monthly, you can select to do that. So uh we'll just title this uh my crime. [0:16:44, 0:16:47]: Data and I want to see it daily. So it selected that. [0:16:48, 0:16:53]: So when we click this alert here, what it's gonna do is it's going to [0:16:53, 0:16:54]: I've got a [0:16:55, 0:17:02]: draw the alert and so when you click draw you can basically put a pin and draw around this whole community here. [0:17:07, 0:17:13]: And then you have to take it back up to the beginning point to close the loop. And so when it's in red, it's going to show you now you have an alert drawn around this area here. [0:17:14, 0:17:21]: So anything that happens within this area right here, you're gonna get a daily alert every time there's a new incident that occurs. [0:17:21, 0:17:30]: Now these are just incidents. So these are reports that officers have taken. But if you want to see the activity, if you want to see what officers are doing, where they're spending their time, what you can also do is you can click incidents. [0:17:31, 0:17:51]: And you can see when we click incidence, you're gonna see that these are all calls that officers have responded to in this community. So when citizens say, Well, I never see an officer in the community, well, in the past three months, every one of these phone calls, every one of these numbers here represent a time that an officer was in that particular community. When you click on it, you're also going to be able to notate on there the time. So they were on a disturbance call. [0:17:51, 0:17:58]: There, September twenty-eighth at six forty-seven in the evening. You'll be able to see that detail off to the right hand side. Um [0:17:59, 0:18:09]: You you'll see on here also that here we're probably gonna see, you know, a traffic stop. That they made a traffic stop out in front of here. And this is just this community, but if you zoom out here [0:18:10, 0:18:12]: And we reset this alert. [0:18:13, 0:18:16]: To include the entire city, you can see in the last month. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: That in the top here [0:18:19, 0:18:25]: Офіцер responded to one thousand seven hundred and twenty nine incidents in the city. [0:18:25, 0:18:37]: and sixty three uh incidents in which a report was taken. So that's what that data represents. And you can see um the types of calls here. You can click on those. It's gonna tell you um [0:18:39, 0:18:52]: Well, I don't know why it did that exactly. Uh that there were twenty two domestic instances and it's gonna give you information on, you know, where these dem well no, those are traffic stops. I apologize. It's traffic stops. It's gonna tell you where these traffic stops occurred. [0:18:53, 0:18:57]: Now if you just wanna see specifics, let's say for instance you are [0:18:59, 0:19:00]: Let's [0:19:01, 0:19:05]: Yeah, I think we had a I think we had a uh I think we had a glitch here. [0:19:05, 0:19:11]: But let's say we want to look at the cases in the last um [0:19:11, 0:19:13]: Month that we had here. [0:19:14, 0:19:34]: And we go down to the area of the Walmart at Hudson Bridge. You're gonna see this is the Walmart. You can see there were five shoplifting cases that we responded to. And as you can see, our numbers in shoplifting have gone down considerably based on the um uh the processes that we've developed with Walmart. So we've been able to reduce some of those instances, but you can see. [0:19:34, 0:19:38]: See here there are eight incidents, um five of those shoplifting and the first time. [0:19:38, 0:19:41]: Some other miscellaneous incidents entering auto general information. [0:19:42, 0:19:48]: And then if you want to scroll out, you can see and visualize where these incidents are happening incidents are happening across the city. [0:19:48, 0:20:08]: Another thing we do as it relates to traffic enforcement. We want to make sure that we're responding smartly, that we're enforcing the traffic law appropriately in the areas that need to be enforced. And so when we click on accidents, this is going to show you the locations where we've had accident reports taken in the last month. So you can see here that in this corridor right here on Hudson Bridge. [0:20:08, 0:20:28]: Bridge Road. Uh we have a lot of activity, so that's where we're going to direct our officers to enforce uh traffic in this area to try to cut down on those instances. And you can see also as we come up to uh North Henry Boulevard area, we have a lot of accidents around that area also. So this helps us to programmatically uh and strategically uh place our resources in the right way. [0:20:28, 0:20:48]: And focus on the right things. Our officers also have a separate dashboard that provides them with more detailed information. So every officer in the department has their own login where they can look in, they can see what's happening in their community, when it's happened, they can read the details, they can visualize the data so that they can develop strategies to respond appropriately to these issues. So [0:20:48, 0:21:08]: This is something again that we just wanted to highlight for members of the community. This is a free tool. It's not app-based, so you do have to access it via the web. But we share all of our data. As soon as that data is verified through our system, we push that information out to the database. It updates every 24 hours. [0:21:08, 0:21:28]: So you see that it's gonna be a day behind. It's not real time, but we have to allow those reports to work its way through the system to get approved before we push that information out. But again, we just want to make sure that we are sharing information with the community so that the community is aware of what's going on. We believe that that's the first step of really addressing issues is by [0:21:28, 0:21:48]: Showing what's happening and then bringing that awareness to the community so that we can work together to prevent these issues from happening in the future. So just a quick overview, and I wanted to share the link for members of the community that are watching. This is the web link to access this database. You can create your own account. [0:21:48, 0:22:08]: You can set up your own alerts as we had mentioned before. And of course, if you have any questions as it relates to how to operate this, feel free to contact us, email us, and we'd be happy to help address any questions that any members of our community have. That's all I have as it relates to the presentation and would certainly be happy to entertain any questions. [0:22:08, 0:22:28]: questions uh that the council may have regarding this tool. I would tell you Chief this is a great tool. I appreciate the presentation. I'm pretty sure the rest of the council does as well. This this shows to me it shows true transparency and being truthful, have a good honest relationship with the community and let them know, hey, you know we're doing our job, you can see what we're doing and check check it out. And [0:22:28, 0:22:33]: If you got any questions we talk talk with us and we'll we'll resolve it and uh this is this is good. I mean [0:22:34, 0:22:41]: Uh you're not hiding anything. Y you your hands are above board and say, This is what's happening, folks. This is this is good stuff. [0:22:41, 0:22:47]: I appreciate it. Uh council, uh I would imagine you Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Yeah. [0:22:47, 0:23:07]: Chief, I I think this is great as well. Um, are you are you the person or who is the person that if I wanted to call and I wanted to get this app, do I reach out to you or is just go to the website as you just this website here and is and just follow the link. [0:23:07, 0:23:27]: Right. Just go to the website and follow the link. I would encourage members that are watching just to since this is recorded to go back and we've kind of walked everybody through the steps in terms of how to access it. Uh it's pretty straightforward once you get in there and you start playing with it. But um again, if there are any questions that members of the community have, uh they can contact us uh at the police department or they can email [0:23:27, 0:23:32]: [1413.9, 1415.3]: Thank you, sir. [0:23:36, 0:23:43]: You good? You good? Oh, go ahead, Miss Barber. I wanted to ask. So Chief Tramer, I'm looking at this date range and it says past month. [0:23:45, 0:23:49]: So current month, are we able to see? [0:23:50, 0:24:07]: What is being reported or the incidents. Right. So when you when you when you click into the date range, you can select whatever custom days. We can look for the past week. So we can look for what happened yesterday, uh um back through a a week prior, or you can go in here, it's a little slow here, the connection's not great. [0:24:08, 0:24:11]: One more question. So what happens when cases are closed? [0:24:12, 0:24:32]: Do they no longer appear on here? No, this information will appear on here, um it's it's gonna stay on here for the entire time frame um that you're that you're viewing. So if you wanted to see as an example, what we don't have, you can look for the past six months, but we only have three months of data. Uh if you wanted to, you can go back and look for the past two years. [0:24:32, 0:24:37]: Um this is something that is archived, is chronicled, and you can always go back and refer to at any point in time. [0:24:41, 0:24:44]: Any other questions? Yeah, go ahead, uh Mr. Blount. [0:24:44, 0:24:57]: Chief, thank you for your presentation. Uh I do think this is uh helpful tool for the community. Uh one question I have, uh when you click on let's say incidents uh in a community. [0:24:58, 0:25:00]: Does it give that address or just give the error? [0:25:01, 0:25:09]: No, it just gives the area. If you'll notice here, uh maybe we can pull up an example. It says the five hundred block of Sheffield Court. It's not gonna give a particular uh address. [0:25:10, 0:25:10]: Yeah. [0:25:17, 0:25:25]: You know, I I like to ever show that with you view them. Yeah, I like to show them some actual picture. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's why we configured it that way. [0:25:26, 0:25:34]: Yeah, I just want to say thank you for bringing this forward and I'll see you at the town hall on Thursday. All right, yes, sir, and thank you. Good deal. All right, thank you, Chief. Appreciate that. [0:25:36, 0:25:45]: Next item is a public hearing. Council consideration to adopt a twenty twenty-three to twenty twenty-seven short-term work program capital improvements element. [0:25:45, 0:25:47]: Presented by Miss Carter, please. [0:25:53, 0:25:54]: Messed up up here. [0:25:58, 0:25:59]: You don't have to take it. [0:26:01, 0:26:21]: Uh good evening, Mayor and Council. Yes, the short-term work program and capital improvements element is a plan that we draft every year, which is state mandated in order for the City of Stockbridge to maintain its um stay in compliance with state minimum standards. What we have done is the initial [0:26:20, 0:26:40]: Document that was initially drafted was in July of this year. It was approved by this board to transmit to the city, I'm sorry, to the Atlanta Regional Commission and the Department of Community Affairs. They provided some comments to us. We made updates, and we're bringing the document back to the [0:26:40, 0:26:48]: City Council for adoption so that we can be in line with our compliance to approve by October 31st, 2022. [0:27:00, 0:27:01]: I'll be happy to answer any questions. [0:27:03, 0:27:08]: I don't know you n anybody got any questions thus far? Oh I always I'll do. [0:27:09, 0:27:29]: Go ahead, sir. Uh thank you for bringing this forward, Ms. Carter. And I just uh for the benefit of the folks watching, so they understand the significance of what we're doing here. Can we talk about some of the projects that we have listed there so they know uh where their tax dollars are going and how progressive we are? [0:27:28, 0:27:32]: with uh moving these projects forward. Maybe just a few of them. [0:27:37, 0:27:57]: So um a lot of these projects um are either funded through general fund, through grant dollars, state and or federal dollars. Um majority of them um have been able to have been approved um previously and we're working with our grants administrator to bring in additional [0:27:57, 0:28:05]: Funding for these projects that we're looking to fund, like our amphitheater and um not our amphitheater, but our um splash pad. [0:28:06, 0:28:26]: Like our Cultural Arts Center. We have our electric vehicle station at the amphitheater being built now. And Georgia Power provided us a grant to be able to do all the infrastructure for us. And we pay for the actual electric vehicle stations themselves, as well as the monument signs and wayfinding signs. [0:28:26, 0:28:40]: That you all have gotten a tutorial over and we'll hear about a little bit more tonight and other multiple projects. So we're looking for funding from every source possible for these particular projects. [0:28:41, 0:29:01]: So I guess the follow-up on that is to understand this entire process is that we have a very organized plan and we have a vision that we have to submit to the state on what we plan to do for them to sign off on it. So these projects that we are managing or that we're that are coming forward. [0:29:01, 0:29:14]: forward, they're just not popping up. We have a we have a very aggressive plan in order to d to accomplish these. And these are are the part of the city plan for us to move forward. So they understand we're operating strategically. [0:29:14, 0:29:29]: And to add on to this, this piece of um legislation is also what we utilize as part of our update for our five-year comprehensive plan update. So every five years, the state is also looking to see is [0:29:29, 0:29:42]: for these projects that we've listed, have we accomplished them? Have they been completed? And they offer grant fund funding opportunities as well to complete and provide supplemental funds for these activities as well. [0:29:43, 0:30:03]: Yeah, one of the final question, one of them we just we did receive a grant for the downtown for the for the bicycle path. We did. Uh as well. So that was one of the that was part of that program, right? Correct, correct. That is a um a partial sharing uh grant that we received from the Atlanta Regional Commission that gave um a hundred and twenty [0:30:03, 0:30:21]: five thousand dollars as a grant. They gave us uh they're paying a hundred. The city is paying twenty-five thousand and um this is for the purpose of a you know just under a mile of pedestrian connectivity throughout our downtown area which helps us to to bring in those developers who want to build uh in our downtown community. [0:30:22, 0:30:22]: Thank you. [0:30:23, 0:30:26]: Council, any other questions at all from Ms. Carter? [0:30:26, 0:30:46]: Okay, so this is a public hearing, so I need to open this up for uh comments from the citizenry that is here. So I'm gonna start on my on my very on my left side. So is any comments for the agreement uh on the very left side? Any comments at all in the middle? The far right. [0:30:46, 0:30:54]: Seeing none. Any comments uh f that is against this? Uh any thoughts uh of negative comments per se? Far left side. [0:30:55, 0:30:56]: Seeing none in the middle. [0:30:58, 0:30:59]: And my far right. [0:31:00, 0:31:06]: Okay, no comments one way or the other, positive or negative, I'll close a public hearing. Council, I need a motion to accept this uh proposal here. [0:31:07, 0:31:11]: So move. Mr. Gallzenter. Uh Mayor Potem second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Carter. Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:31:18, 0:31:33]: On old business. Council consideration to amend the amphitheater uh policy to create a non competitive clause for private events and contra uh concerts and to provide uh revenue sharing uh for profit events. Mr. Gardner, please. [0:31:55, 0:32:15]: Good evening, ma'am, counsel. Good evening. Um, we're back before you with the changes that we were able to get um via going back through the video of the meeting because I think there was a bunch of changes and then no changes and changes and then no changes. [0:32:15, 0:32:24]: But we're able to get um the gist of I think what was the concerns of some of the members of council uh during the last meeting. [0:32:26, 0:32:39]: And so what I did was kinda give you out of printing the whole thing out or give you kind of cliff notes of the couple of pages that I think were in this point of discussion um during our last meeting, which would have been page three, four. [0:32:41, 0:33:01]: five and six and specifically on page three there was the discussion around um having um the having a partnership with the city council as it relates to to um any events [0:33:01, 0:33:20]: um that that wanted to um utilize um the facility. So I think I might have caught B the amendment there were we're recommending would be um applicants outside of an approved [0:33:20, 0:33:24]: Um partnership agreement with the city council shall pay for talent. [0:33:25, 0:33:28]: Sound, light, stage hands. [0:33:28, 0:33:30]: publicity, advertisements [0:33:31, 0:33:43]: stage catering backstage catering, um, et cetera, under that section. Um, I think there was some concern that that, you know, there might be some ambiguity there as it relates to [0:33:43, 0:33:50]: folks um not being able to provide those services on their own. And then on page four [0:33:53, 0:34:13]: Under section nine, rate categories and fees. Um, there was concern around civic organizations um and it uh and educational uh events, as well as on page five, um, under nonprofit. And so what we did was [0:34:13, 0:34:13]: Two [0:34:15, 0:34:26]: to rest any concerns we put in there that if if there was a civic or educational concert that that concert would could only be sanctioned as part of an agreement. [0:34:26, 0:34:28]: Um that's approved by me and council. [0:34:29, 0:34:49]: So that we couldn't have a concert outside of an agreement with Mayor and Council. The same thing on page five for nonprofit events. Um there's a section there under the bullet point in red. You will see where it says concerts under this section shall only be allowed under a partnership agreement approved by the city council. [0:34:50, 0:34:52]: I mean that was a concern as to whether or not [0:34:53, 0:35:01]: A non profit can have a co can have a concert and how that concert would be and so it could only happen as part of an agreement. [0:35:02, 0:35:22]: The other section I think we had some really good agreement on as it relates to commercial or for-profit was that however no commercial for-profit uh concerts shall be allowed in the amphitheater um period because we understand we didn't want to compete with ourselves. Um [0:35:22, 0:35:37]: And then under there, if we do have an event that's for commercial, um, that that event shall share in the profits at about twenty uh twenty percent of the box fees plus the ten thousand dollar fee to utilize the facility. [0:35:40, 0:35:47]: And then I think that was the last one. No, I think I'm last one. Page number six. [0:35:49, 0:35:59]: There was discussion under page number six, n uh section ten, coordination of services. I think this was where we had a lot of grappling about um whether or not we would [0:35:59, 0:36:19]: um allow for the city to reimburse and I think this captures I hope it captures what the council's concerns were and specifically we added the language um under section ten that to best serve its guests and to maintain the integrity of the amphitheater. It is the policy of the city [0:36:19, 0:36:25]: city of Stockbridge that certain services shall be provided by the city [0:36:25, 0:36:45]: or its authorized agent under a partnership agreement approved by the city council with the applicant reimbursing the city for c for all costs associated with the provisions of such services. And these services may include and are not limited to the concessions, janitorial grounds, [0:36:45, 0:36:52]: parking management, emergency medical, law enforcement, fire protection, and event monitoring. [0:36:52, 0:37:08]: And I think that that was a concern that you all had that to make sure that any those exceptions would only be guaranteed under a part partnership and obviously you guys would be able to see that partnership and see if if they are asking for those exceptions what they would be and then you could approve or deny. [0:37:10, 0:37:30]: Okay. Questions, Council. Well, sir. Go right here, please. Uh Councilman Mayor Pro Tem was not here. And Mr. Blount was not here for that particular meeting. So before we start rehashing what we've already talked about, they probably need to weigh in to see exactly what they think uh in the original cover. [0:37:30, 0:37:50]: Conversation that we had, uh, I think the three of us at the meeting, we talked about the partnership. And my only concern was that we we did not leave a lane for small businesses to to come in and to participate by not allowing for reimbursement out of ticket sales. Uh [0:37:50, 0:38:10]: So pretty much you'd have to be a deep-pocketed player to come in to be able to have an event uh at the amphitheater because uh, you know, you some of those expenses up front, such as the event that we were supposed to have that uh unfortunately was weather delayed, that event called for uh some reimbursement. [0:38:10, 0:38:30]: To be included. I'm not sure whether events like that would ever come to the city if we did not have uh some type of uh agreement in place. And uh, you know, and the last thing that I'll say about that is that, you know, I was watching the special on the Showtime Lakers and uh, you know, uh Dr. [0:38:30, 0:38:50]: Dr. Bus, who rest his soul. I'm a Celtic fan, by the way. But in the end, he said every night that his avenue was closed was a day they lost. So he he looked to operate his avenue 365 days a year. Now, my contention is if the city's only gonna use it 50 days or or 20 days, 12 days a year. [0:38:50, 0:39:10]: This past year, we've lost on 353 days throughout the year. So under this agreement right now, not allowing anybody else to use the amphitheater for concerts. Let's say somebody could land uh Maxwell and we couldn't. Well, we certainly wouldn't be [0:39:10, 0:39:26]: able to deal with them by because uh they wanted to bring in the show. I think the the the medium agreement is if they if they pay us the fee and they give us twenty percent, that's a win. Because there's no guarantee that we're gonna make money on a concert. [0:39:26, 0:39:27]: There's no guarantee. [0:39:28, 0:39:32]: But if somebody else brought the concert in, they paid the fee to use the facility. [0:39:32, 0:39:34]: And they guaranteed us twenty percent. [0:39:34, 0:39:42]: There's no way to lose money on that. But that's an expanded discussion and you know it's gonna come down to what the council has to chime in on. [0:39:43, 0:39:47]: I'm sorry. Go ahead. [0:39:49, 0:40:09]: Thank you, Mr. Gardner, for your presentation. One of the things that um I've always contested is that, you know, when we set policies and procedures, what is the template that we're using to set those policies and procedures? Are we setting it through what the council desires, or is that common practice for uh events, or is that common practice for amphitheaters? [0:40:08, 0:40:09]: Yeah. [0:40:10, 0:40:13]: Um if there's a common practice among amphitheaters,'cause [0:40:14, 0:40:17]: As I've always said, none of us have run an amphitheater before. [0:40:17, 0:40:22]: So what's the template that we're using and what where where are these policies and procedures are coming from? [0:40:22, 0:40:29]: If it's not deposited procedures of other amphitheaters to do something that we're trying to make an anomaly to do, then I'm not for it. [0:40:30, 0:40:36]: Because the success of our amphitheater is to take the likeness of those things that have been successful with other amphitheaters. [0:40:37, 0:40:39]: And so whatever happens and whatever we're doing [0:40:40, 0:40:46]: for this amphitheater, I needed to if we change those policies or procedures. [0:40:46, 0:41:06]: Show me where that's coming from. That's a common practice, not just a common desire among us as council members, but those that have run on amphitheater and those that know what they're doing. So uh and I've always said also uh I would agree that we do have to make sure that there's a lower tier sponsorship level for small businesses because when before the amphitheater, they were [0:41:06, 0:41:23]: were involved, uh many of'em was involved with the city uh when it came to events came to c uh came to events and and different uh functions that we had in the city. But to change a policy to allow certain things that on a higher scale of a percentage, I have to see where that's [0:41:24, 0:41:27]: come and practice at at any amphitheater and I haven't yet to see that. [0:41:28, 0:41:30]: Okay, Mayor Pochem, go ahead, sir. [0:41:31, 0:41:45]: Yes. Um I also agree that and I don't have a problem in partnering with non profits. Um but I do have a problem with us putting ourselves in a position [0:41:47, 0:41:48]: To lose. [0:41:49, 0:41:51]: And in the word [0:41:52, 0:41:53]: reimbursing. [0:41:54, 0:41:57]: I I I sort of have a problem with that. [0:41:57, 0:42:00]: Cause ha how how do you [0:42:01, 0:42:05]: How do you enforce that? How do you guarantee that? [0:42:06, 0:42:08]: If someone has an event [0:42:08, 0:42:10]: And it is not profitable. [0:42:12, 0:42:14]: So h how how do we get reimbursed, uh [0:42:15, 0:42:22]: How how do we get reimbursed? And and that's a problem that I have. Again, I don't have a problem with with partnering. [0:42:23, 0:42:30]: And I don't have a problem in lowering some of the um costs or standards. [0:42:32, 0:42:36]: But I'm not sure I'm in favor of us going out front. [0:42:37, 0:42:40]: bearing financial expenses. [0:42:41, 0:42:52]: based on the fact that we will be in reimbursed later. And then if if if their event is not successful, then the city loses [0:42:52, 0:43:04]: as well as the uh non profit organization or the organization. So I just have a problem with this this whole wording of reimbursement and I don't know how do we [0:43:05, 0:43:25]: partner with small businesses and allow them to be able to to use this facility. But I'm just not comfortable with us going out front paying a large amount and at the end of the day or at the end of this this event, then it's a loss, loss for everyone [0:43:24, 0:43:25]: Everybody. [0:43:26, 0:43:27]: And they can walk away. [0:43:28, 0:43:29]: But for the city [0:43:30, 0:43:45]: I I just don't think we c we should be able to to walk away like that, not losing city funds. Yes, sir. And and this this coordinated service is only gonna be allowed where you, the council, approve it. [0:43:45, 0:43:49]: So if for instance a uh a uh [0:43:50, 0:43:56]: A applicant comes in and only wants janitorial services to be covered, obviously. [0:43:57, 0:44:08]: on on on an agreement where the the city entered into a partnership with this entity, let's say Hans of Hope wants to do a concert or something like that. [0:44:08, 0:44:14]: And the only thing they ask for is janitorial service. Well in a situation like that [0:44:15, 0:44:35]: You know, you're not putting up a lot in terms of what you what what what you're putting in the in as part of this agreement, but you still have the council has the opportunity to weigh in and say yes or no. It doesn't happen automatically. It it only happens if the the majority of this council or this council approves it. And if someone [0:44:34, 0:44:54]: comes in and asks for um let's say all of these services they want to be reimbursed. Obviously counsel has the right to say nope we're not doing that. We'll cover you on this and this, but we won't cover you on that or we won't cover you on any of your these associated costs. But that that decision is not left to me or the staff that [0:44:54, 0:45:11]: That's left to council as to whether or not you wanna do that. But but the problem that I have with that, I I just don't feel that the council should be put in that position. It should be equal across the board because I may favor Hands of Hope and I may wanna give them [0:45:11, 0:45:12]: Everything. [0:45:12, 0:45:21]: another council member may come or some other organization that another council member may favor and they may want less. So how do you [0:45:22, 0:45:40]: You know, and I just don't wanna put us in that position where we are going against each other, allowing one organization more or less than the other. If we can avoid putting this council in that position, I I just think the policy or the standards should be equally [0:45:41, 0:45:52]: across the board. Therefore we don't get caught up into that. Now how do you do that? I I don't know. And that's the dilemma because that's what some of the council asked us to do and obviously [0:45:53, 0:45:55]: Some of the councils don't, right? Um [0:45:56, 0:46:03]: So that's a decision obviously the the council has to make as a body, whether or not you want that exception in there or not. [0:46:03, 0:46:05]: Um so that's [0:46:05, 0:46:25]: Yes. I was gonna say now what I possibly could agree with as far as a dollar amount of reimbursement and that amount is just standard across the board. It may include janitoria, it may include this, it may include that, but it's a dollar amount that the silly [0:46:25, 0:46:27]: The city is willing [0:46:27, 0:46:28]: To [0:46:29, 0:46:40]: you know, to to to to utilize in this case. And I think that keeps all of us safe. If if they're just a dollar amount. And then it it's up to that organization. [0:46:40, 0:46:41]: You know, if [0:46:42, 0:47:02]: If they want to do it or not, or if they have some other uh sponsorship where they can sort of incur some of those um those those causes. But I just don't think that the we in the city should get caught up into picking and choosing who gets what as they approach. Cause we don't know. We don't know what they're going to ask for. [0:47:02, 0:47:21]: when they come. And I don't want to this council members, I don't want us going back and forth with each other, trying to say, well, you know, this organization should get this. And then two months later another organization come and you say, well, this organization should not get that. I just don't want to put us in that position. [0:47:24, 0:47:25]: Mr. Blount? [0:47:25, 0:47:40]: Uh Mr. Gardner, I would I would have to concur with that because when you're talking about uh the elected body and you talk about politicians, I don't ever want a policy to be set that can have political provisions set forth [0:47:40, 0:47:50]: for this person or that person. It could go into that. I think that we should set policies that are across the board, that are fair to everybody, and that because you can find yourself in uh [0:47:51, 0:47:55]: Because I've always said on this council, whatever we do. [0:47:55, 0:47:59]: Whatever standard we set becomes a precedence for everybody. [0:48:00, 0:48:12]: And when you start to put political provisions in, because you're making it now as uh uh whenever if we wanna make these provisions for this person or that person, then then then there's not a set standard. [0:48:12, 0:48:18]: It's whatever we say for this person or that person. And I think we can find ourselves in some uh [0:48:18, 0:48:38]: That's the way you find yourselves in different type litigation pertaining to decisions by the council rather than having a a policy by the city that's one standard. And I think that that's that's I I'm for setting this just one standard uh without making those provisions as as needed because they can become political. [0:48:39, 0:48:42]: Uh, and that's not a belittlement of any of my colleagues. [0:48:43, 0:48:44]: That's even beyond now. [0:48:45, 0:48:46]: That it could go into that. [0:48:47, 0:49:00]: True code. You know, I just I I I'm not I'm not for us being able to make provisions like that. We either set a policy, that's the policy, and that's the standard, and we move the city forward like that. [0:49:00, 0:49:01]: Yeah. [0:49:01, 0:49:20]: Mayor Ford, if I sir, go ahead, please. I I can agree with a dollar amount that would just be equal across the board, regardless of who may come. I think that's not the only equal and fair way actually to do it, but I'd be curious to see what the other council members have to say. Sir. You go right up, please. [0:49:20, 0:49:40]: Yeah, yeah. Sorry. If I could, I sa I I kinda agree with you that that that uh that would be agreeable to me as far as setting what a particular dollar amount is. But I think Mr. Blount you did hit on a very key thing, which is what is customary at these other facilities. We don't want to be an outlier. [0:49:40, 0:50:00]: where we're doing something totally different than somebody else. So again, there need to be a genesis for where these we're creating these policies in in a silo, or are we doing what's you know what's accustomed to what we're doing in the industry? Is there's are you able to answer those questions? Because originally I guess you know what you're [0:50:00, 0:50:15]: you were doing over at the East Point or some other cities. So what are you aware of what the other cities are doing or maybe Mr. Berry might be uh uh inclined to be able to enlighten us what they're doing and some of the facilities uh he's worked at. [0:50:15, 0:50:34]: So when we put this policy together um back in the early summer and brought it to you guys for adoption, we looked at um a number of communities and how they address their use of their amphitheater. Um and then we looked at a um [0:50:35, 0:50:55]: A city in particular that that had an amphitheater use and kind of blended theirs um uh because of the s similar size and scope of their facility to towards us. So we looked at what pretty much what was happening in the in the industry per se, and then model obviously uh our policies after those. [0:50:54, 0:51:04]: Um so we we we didn't just you know, pull it out of the air. Um and then we brought it to you guys originally. [0:51:04, 0:51:18]: So so the changes that we made were contrary to what you had already established, is that what you said? And and and realize too, I think, you know, every facility is different. They're not the same. They may be called an amphitheater, but they operate a little different. [0:51:19, 0:51:39]: Um and then you have uh where you have a government entity involved, then obviously this as you gave this the example of uh Mr. Buss, you know, that that is a for-profit organization and business versus we're we're a government. So we'll provide services and and tangential [0:51:39, 0:51:46]: entertainment or as part of some of these events that we have facilities. But um, you know [0:51:46, 0:52:06]: The wish part of this review is obviously what the council feels is in the best interest of the city and what you feel is equitable, uh as you mentioned related to small business and uh and such. In terms of the overall philosophy, my my focus, and I'm speaking for [0:52:06, 0:52:26]: Me is not the actual profit inside the building. And let's say let me make that clear. I I mentioned that Lakers example as what is the best practice out in the industry, which is what we're talking about. But anytime we have an event in downtown, if somebody had in my mind, and I'm talking for me, if somebody [0:52:26, 0:52:36]: had an event in the amphitheater. They brought thirty two hundred people downs downtown and we charge them a minimal fee. It's a win. [0:52:37, 0:52:49]: Because they brought thirty two hundred people downtown. The focus of what we're doing is to bring people downtown. So to me the policy that we set with the with the fee and then the twenty percent is really [0:52:49, 0:52:50]: Really [0:52:50, 0:52:56]: Uh it will really was a good policy to begin with, the the the fee and the and the twenty percent because [0:52:56, 0:52:59]: No matter what person who what they were doing. [0:52:59, 0:53:19]: They were bringing people into downtown and we were guaranteed a profit. Now, Melpro Tim, you said, you know, as you spoke that, you know, we partner with these organizations, and there's no guarantee that we would make a profit. But I mean, there's no guarantee that we're making profit on any of these concerts, but if we allow somebody else to bring the [0:53:19, 0:53:30]: concert to us, then especially a a large provider, they're gonna pay for everything and then they're gonna pay us the fee and then they're gonna give us twenty percent if there is a fee. [0:53:30, 0:53:43]: But as we know, there's no guarantee that we're gonna make money on our concerts. It really is a guarantee the other way around. Yeah. But those those are just my thoughts. Can I ask one second one second please. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:53:45, 0:53:45]: Um [0:53:47, 0:53:51]: So my concern initially was um [0:53:51, 0:53:56]: The city receiving reimbursement or putting money up front. [0:53:56, 0:53:57]: For [0:53:57, 0:53:58]: Any organization. [0:53:59, 0:54:01]: Whether it is a non profit or [0:54:01, 0:54:02]: Commercial for profit. [0:54:03, 0:54:05]: Just don't think it is a good idea for the city. [0:54:06, 0:54:07]: To put money up front. [0:54:08, 0:54:08]: Um [0:54:08, 0:54:10]: I think it would be helpful. [0:54:10, 0:54:12]: If we break this down. [0:54:12, 0:54:13]: Um [0:54:14, 0:54:16]: Об'ясні, ви стіль на. [0:54:17, 0:54:20]: come up with a solution to address the non profit. [0:54:21, 0:54:24]: Considering their fee is twenty five hundred dollars. [0:54:24, 0:54:28]: Um, for any event that they may want to hold at the amphitheater. [0:54:29, 0:54:32]: We know twenty five hundred dollars is not going to cover [0:54:32, 0:54:33]: Um [0:54:33, 0:54:34]: The [0:54:34, 0:54:37]: Some of the coordination of services. [0:54:37, 0:54:39]: For a six hour event. [0:54:40, 0:54:48]: So the city would be holding the bag for whatever. Okay. So you explain to me, Mr. Gardner, if you can explain to me. [0:54:49, 0:54:50]: How a nonprofit [0:54:50, 0:54:53]: Can host an event at the amphitheater. [0:54:53, 0:54:55]: Um without the city. [0:54:55, 0:54:56]: Havington. [0:54:56, 0:54:58]: Pay any money up front. [0:54:59, 0:55:01]: Right. So obviously [0:55:01, 0:55:03]: If I'm a two person [0:55:03, 0:55:07]: non profit then I probably won't be looking at this as a venue. [0:55:07, 0:55:27]: But if you have a large nonprofit, let's say for instance, um Salvation Army or such a group, then yes, they they can afford to come in and utilize the facility because they have the backbone to be able to do that. Um to pay for it at the 25 and then utilize the [0:55:27, 0:55:28]: Yeah. [0:55:28, 0:55:40]: Um, but your small mom and pop nonprofit probably won't. They'll probably rent a space in the Merylmanders or a smaller space to do whatever event they're gonna have because obviously they don't have the capacity. [0:55:40, 0:55:48]: to probably give up twenty five hundred. And and I might be I might be shortchanging some of those smaller smaller non profits. But I think [0:55:48, 0:55:59]: You know, when we when we talk about the size and scope of this facility, I think everybody have to look at that as when when you make this decision. It's this is not a hundred person C [0:55:59, 0:56:00]: Venu. [0:56:00, 0:56:06]: Right. So obviously as a small business or a small non profit. [0:56:07, 0:56:09]: I'm not gonna come rent this facility. [0:56:10, 0:56:12]: Because I don't have the capacity to pay for it. [0:56:13, 0:56:21]: Right. I mean it's just like everybody in life. Some people want a Rolls Royce, but you don't have the capacity to pay for it, so you don't buy it. You get yourself a Honda Copen. [0:56:22, 0:56:24]: Right. And that's not being [0:56:24, 0:56:27]: It's not saying that they're not equitable, that's just [0:56:28, 0:56:37]: Real life situation. I mean, if like I said, I mean, you know, if if I'm looking to host an event, I'm gonna look at a venue that I know that I I can afford the space to hobby. [0:56:37, 0:56:51]: Um and then I make that decision based on, you know, if I got three or four options. But like I said, for your n larger non profit organizations, twenty five hundred dollars is probably very easy for them to to put up to have an event. [0:56:53, 0:56:57]: Okay. M Mr Blount. Sir. Mr. Blount was next. Go ahead, please. [0:56:59, 0:57:17]: Yeah, I I think uh mayor, I think all the points kind of been hit on uh on this. Um, but I would ask Mr. Glenner in the future when we talk about things of of the amphitheater, and I know that you all kinda go into other cities, because I know sometimes in our in our um binders [0:57:17, 0:57:21]: We would have uh you guys would reference rather it was a policy that was at [0:57:22, 0:57:42]: Peace Tree City or whatever, not Peace Tree City, but uh let's just say uh you know you would reference where the likeness of what we're doing to other cities. Because for me, I just want us to make sure that we're in a position, in a place where we're not the anomaly of [0:57:42, 0:57:47]: of something, I want to see where what we do is the success of something else. [0:57:48, 0:57:49]: You see what I'm saying? Yes, sir. [0:57:51, 0:57:52]: Mayor Pro Tem? [0:57:54, 0:57:56]: Mr. Garden and Council, um [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: In my mind [0:57:59, 0:58:01]: This policy should be about [0:58:01, 0:58:03]: A safeguard. [0:58:04, 0:58:05]: That protect the city. [0:58:06, 0:58:08]: If something is successful [0:58:08, 0:58:09]: Yes. [0:58:10, 0:58:11]: You know, you win. [0:58:11, 0:58:16]: But I think we have to be about a policy about the safeguard. [0:58:16, 0:58:20]: Councilman Alexander mentioned about, you know, win win. [0:58:22, 0:58:25]: When the city initiate an event [0:58:25, 0:58:27]: We control our own destiny. [0:58:28, 0:58:42]: But when we allow someone else to come in to do something, we're not in control. So we don't know how successful this is going to be. But if we're on the hook for, I don't know, just say um janitorial. [0:58:43, 0:58:45]: And we spend whatever. [0:58:45, 0:58:49]: Say we spend five, ten thousand dollars for janitoria. [0:58:50, 0:58:50]: I mean [0:58:51, 0:58:53]: We lose. So so how do you [0:58:54, 0:59:01]: Force. How do you enforce that reimbursement? So rather than going in that direction. [0:59:02, 0:59:04]: You build in [0:59:04, 0:59:08]: A safe guard you build in a safety net. [0:59:09, 0:59:13]: to prevent all of that. When things are good, it's good. [0:59:14, 0:59:17]: But this policy should be about that safety net. [0:59:18, 0:59:24]: And and that's really my contention with this. Where is the safety net? Because again, [0:59:24, 0:59:31]: We're allowing this and we're spending, but we don't know their due diligence in going out making this a success. [0:59:32, 0:59:38]: And then if it's not, then they walk away and say, Well, okay, we we didn't do it this time. But then but the city [0:59:38, 0:59:41]: We're we're you know, we we're holding the bag. [0:59:43, 1:00:03]: What I may I'll make a recommendation, just a thought though, that all v obviously we have different opinions here. Maybe s we have to have some additional discussion um and then come back uh with th those comments and kind of have you know, maybe have more discussion maybe with two one on one, uh three council members or something like this and to kind of filter through this a little better. [1:00:03, 1:00:13]: But I think Mayor Ford if if this council's okay, I would not have a problem in setting uh a dollar amount ceiling. [1:00:13, 1:00:22]: across the board, something that we probably could absorb if this event is not a success. I mean to to [1:00:23, 1:00:33]: to lose based on somebody else's effort to make it a success, that's one thing. But I just think that, you know, the the dollar amount that we can sort of live with [1:00:34, 1:00:39]: I think that may be the way to go because when we come back we still have the same issue. [1:00:40, 1:01:00]: So I'll be in favor of of a dollar amount and just and take a chance on this organization who come before us, they gonna go out there and work. So what's your recommendation for a dollar amount? Well I'm gonna I'm gonna lend to our city manager over here and just you know, and I don't know. Mm-hmm. I interject on that man. If you don't mind. Yeah. Go ahead. [1:01:01, 1:01:01]: Uh uh. [1:01:02, 1:01:06]: Be because I don't want us be I don't want us to sit here and set a dollar amount. [1:01:07, 1:01:10]: And we're just kinda coming out of the wind again. I wanted to get with people [1:01:11, 1:01:14]: that have done this, know this, and that are doing this. [1:01:15, 1:01:19]: And so when we set whatever policy we set, we want it to be solid. [1:01:19, 1:01:34]: Not just saying, hey, let's do this or let's do that. No, no, we're doing it because this is the way you're supposed to do it. So I wouldn't want this council setting any dollar amount tonight because we're just we're just throwing it out there. Let's find out what the let's find out what is [1:01:35, 1:01:38]: What is the standard for us to do whatever we're doing? [1:01:38, 1:01:47]: I do not want the city to become an anomaly because we became an anomaly this year th this year and it and and things was interesting. I'll just put it that way. [1:01:48, 1:01:53]: in a lot of areas. And I just want us to make sure that whatever move we make, whatever we do. [1:01:53, 1:01:58]: That it's a standard in the system that it's it's it's this is this is the way you operate. [1:01:59, 1:02:01]: May I forward my last comment? Yeah, go right, sir. [1:02:02, 1:02:12]: Where I disagree with that is Stockbridge is Stockbridge. Stockbridge is not McDonald's. Stockbridge is not Jonesburg. And what's good for someone else [1:02:13, 1:02:17]: may not be good for stock grid. So I'm always about [1:02:18, 1:02:38]: What is good for me and my household. I'm not looking at my next door neighbor and saying, well, okay, my next-door neighbor, this is good for him. No, it doesn't work that way. You got to look at your own household and what is good for you and be proactive and go forward. So the standard may not be good for the city. [1:02:38, 1:02:58]: Star grid according to that standard as far as someone else. And when you go out there and look at standard, you're gonna probably see different standards depending on the city, the size of the city, the organization. Some organizations are well entrenched in the community and they know how to go out there and do it, whereas some may not. [1:02:58, 1:03:04]: I just think whatever we do in Stockbridge, let's do it for Stockbridge and live with that. [1:03:05, 1:03:13]: Not based on what somebody else is doing. And Mayor, that's my last comment. Maybe let me just read go right ahead. When when I let me get something clear when I say standard. [1:03:14, 1:03:18]: Because when we started this operation, none of us knew standards. [1:03:19, 1:03:25]: You start from the standard and then you take whatever provisions you need to make to modify it to fit your city. [1:03:26, 1:03:28]: When we sit here and didn't take a standard [1:03:29, 1:03:42]: We set we had policies in place, procedures in place, percentages in place that was not beneficial for the city. Why? Because we had no idea what the standard in the market was. We didn't know that. [1:03:43, 1:03:54]: I'm talking about what the city needs to do to modify, set and di that that would identify what we're doing, but you have to have a template in place to start from. [1:03:54, 1:03:58]: Not just a number outside. So I'm not saying do what other people do. [1:03:59, 1:04:17]: I'm saying there has to be a starting point that makes sense for everybody. That makes sense for for for the system that we're going in, that makes sense for the industry. There has to be a starting point. And then you modify what fits your city. That's what I mean. I'm just trying to keep us from going down a road that we don't need to go down. [1:04:19, 1:04:19]: All right. [1:04:21, 1:04:28]: Comments on this thing? Go ahead, please. I'd like to make a motion that we table this item. Okay, so we'll request that step. [1:04:29, 1:04:32]: Second. Ms. Mr. Bell second. All in favor, please indicate. [1:04:33, 1:04:40]: I wanted to finish my motion. Oh, I thought you finished it. I'm sorry. I wanna um request that we table this item. [1:04:40, 1:04:42]: And direct staff to consult with [1:04:43, 1:04:43]: A [1:04:44, 1:04:44]: Consultant. [1:04:45, 1:04:50]: Um in the industry that knows how to set up these types of policies. [1:04:51, 1:04:57]: Okay. I thought okay, you Ms. Blount, you still second that? Yes. Okay, good. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:04:57, 1:05:17]: All right, fantastic. It is now tabled. Unanimous unanimous decision on that. Okay, so council of consideration to approve the award of request for proposal RFP number two zero two two-06. Uh on call general emergen uh engineering services for the city of Stockbridge and Carter and Sloop Consult. [1:05:17, 1:05:37]: Consulting engineers. Uh Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We come back before you tonight to ask for approval of the agreement with Carter and Sloop as our second engineering firm. They was ranked the second firm. At the previous meeting, we didn't have a copy of the agreement. They only got it the day of the meeting, so they have reviewed the [1:05:37, 1:05:47]: agreement. The attorneys have reviewed it and and approved the agreement. So tonight we're asking you to approve Carter and Sloop as our second on call engineering firm. [1:05:48, 1:05:52]: Okay, is there a motion or ni first of all any questions for Mr. McDermott at all? [1:05:54, 1:05:57]: If no questions there are is there a motion to accept his proposal? [1:05:58, 1:06:02]: So is there a second? Mr from Mr. Uh Alexander, is there a second? [1:06:06, 1:06:09]: Okay, Mayor Potem second that. Any further discussion? [1:06:11, 1:06:13]: If no further discussion, all favor, please indicate. [1:06:16, 1:06:17]: All polls? [1:06:18, 1:06:23]: Abstain. Abstain. So it's three zero one. Motion passed. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Welcome. [1:06:23, 1:06:34]: Council of Consideration approved the City of Stockbridge Wayfinding Sist uh Systematic Uh Designs, schematic design, excuse me, presented by Miss Harris Braggs, Tiffany Chin. [1:06:34, 1:06:36]: Principle sky design. [1:06:37, 1:06:52]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council members. Um, as you all know, I have been tasked with helping to move the wayfinding initiative forward for the city of Stockbridge by the city manager, and we have um been working with [1:06:53, 1:06:55]: The um very talented [1:06:55, 1:07:11]: um design team of Sky Design, which is an Atlanta-based firm here. I would like to bring forward Mr. Miss Tiffany Chin, who is the vice president and principal of that organization. And she is also joined by one of her team mis members, Miss Samantha Namazi. [1:07:18, 1:07:30]: Good evening everyone to see you all in person. Uh we will be presenting a recap of where we are in this project. Oh, that is not it. [1:07:35, 1:07:36]: Mm-hmm. [1:07:39, 1:07:40]: Here it is. [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: There we go. And [1:07:45, 1:07:47]: Apologies, there we go. [1:07:47, 1:07:57]: So we are going to be presenting a recap of the signage and wayfinding uh package. This involves the signage that would represent your city. [1:07:57, 1:08:17]: Around its borders and working inwards, primarily to identify the city as well as to assist with wayfinding to key destinations. As a recap of where we are today, we were tasked with the goal of understanding who the city of Stockbridge. [1:08:17, 1:08:25]: Is what kind of form and materials would represent the city in a signage capacity? [1:08:26, 1:08:31]: And then also create a system that is strategically [1:08:31, 1:08:40]: uh assisting with any type of uh destination uh finding throughout the entire city. So the presentation today [1:08:41, 1:08:45]: Вилкру сам педжіс за. [1:08:46, 1:08:59]: Wanted to start um initially just with this project goals that talks about again a little bit of recap of what I just mentioned. The point of this project is to unify the identity of the city. It will um [1:08:59, 1:09:08]: Act as a vehicle to carry forth the updated city rebranding and then direct guests to major destinations as well as downtown. [1:09:08, 1:09:16]: And then in addition to that, we will be defining what these destinations are as we work through the design process. [1:09:16, 1:09:23]: Where we are today is we are still in the latter stages of the schematics design phase. [1:09:23, 1:09:25]: Following these um [1:09:26, 1:09:37]: The conclusion of the schematics design phase, we then go into design development. And beyond that, we'll put together a documented detailed technical set, and then it will go out to bid. [1:09:37, 1:09:44]: And eventually go into installation. But just where so you know where that we are today, we are still in the schematics phase. [1:09:45, 1:09:49]: So we've taken what we understand of the city of Stockbridge character. [1:09:49, 1:09:54]: as well as the most recently updated brand guidelines. [1:09:55, 1:10:02]: And we've also created a system of sign locations based upon both um [1:10:03, 1:10:08]: The broader areas destinations as well as downtown destinations. [1:10:09, 1:10:29]: And then created programming, which quite literally is the location of signs throughout the city based upon where the city's borders are today and could possibly be in the master plan. We identify primary routes, secondary routes, and tertiary routes, all of these. [1:10:29, 1:10:39]: Again, are to be developed throughout the design process. And you can see on this particular page, we focus on the interstate routes as well as major highways and entrances into the city. [1:10:41, 1:11:01]: Furthermore, we develop we identify where secondary signs may be vehicular wayfinding, any type of additional signs that support park ID signs, and then all of these act as a breadcrumb for any guests to the city to continue to be reminded that they are in fact within the city. [1:11:01, 1:11:05]: [4267.0, 4287.0]: Here we begin the schematic design. What you're about to see is a very rough conceptual idea of our proposed forms for a number of sign types. We will begin with the highway signs, move into secondary signs that are along major routes, but still [1:11:26, 1:11:28]: On the border of the city. [1:11:28, 1:11:39]: Then you will also see some developed ideas that include vehicular directionals as well as tertiary IDs and park IDs. [1:11:40, 1:11:47]: So, from a concept level, we what we really wanted to do was understand who the city of Stockbridge is. [1:11:47, 1:11:56]: How proud you are about your history, and how much of an emphasis you would like to move forward with in terms of the future. [1:11:56, 1:12:01]: And for us, we wanted to capture all of these feelings by creating something that feels very unique. [1:12:02, 1:12:15]: That doesn't feel too traditional, but is also very authentic to the residents as well. And the forms that you see here embrace the airiness of the city, the lightness, as well as the upward progressive movement. [1:12:16, 1:12:18]: And the major sign that you see um [1:12:19, 1:12:39]: Symmetrically supports the city's identity. And then on the right side of the page, you see the secondary monument that takes these same forms but create a different language by quite literally celebrating it by having the letters on the face of these signs again supported through the a masonry base that you see. [1:12:39, 1:12:40]: Yeah. [1:12:41, 1:13:00]: In further pages, you're going to see potential proposed colors as well as materials. But these initial pages will begin to look at what they what the forms could be as well as how they appear in space. So here you see this primary sign, this gateway sign. [1:13:01, 1:13:11]: At the off ramp betw with the highway on the left and the off ra off ramp on the right and the presence that it has um to all of the drivers. [1:13:12, 1:13:25]: And then here you see a potential placement for the secondary monument. Most times when we create these types of sign types, we want to be very conscientious about the footprint that it has. [1:13:26, 1:13:45]: Um, of course, with interstate signs, you typically have a larger footprint to work with. With secondary signs along major routes, we usually have a smaller one. So most of the time, these secondary gateways are vertical. We want them to have the same amount of presence. And so what you see is a a fairly um [1:13:45, 1:13:49]: Прогрессий да сті саму традичну бес. [1:13:49, 1:13:52]: And then here you can see, and I'll zoom in a bit. [1:13:53, 1:14:02]: How these sign types could begin to look as a sign family. So you have the internet interstate sign here on the left. [1:14:02, 1:14:08]: Secondary signs on the right with the city of city name nice and proud in front. [1:14:09, 1:14:19]: Tertiary signs, which would be on secondary and tertiary roads, again with the name um right in front, and then you can see the secondary logo mark placed on this as well. [1:14:20, 1:14:30]: This is the form that we are proposing, keeping the softness of the curves and the double momentum of the arcs for the vehicular signs. [1:14:30, 1:14:40]: And then the a proposed form for the park IDs, which is an extruded and sort of tempered version of the logo mark itself. [1:14:41, 1:14:42]: How these could look. [1:14:42, 1:14:45]: In in a um [1:14:46, 1:14:51]: Colored version. So h this is a second second view from the other direction. [1:14:52, 1:15:01]: We have two options to show you of what the color materials and um potential bases could look like. Here you see [1:15:02, 1:15:10]: A traditional red brick base with cast concrete details and caps, you see a um [1:15:10, 1:15:17]: Metallic silver arcs with your floating stock bridge name and logo mark. [1:15:17, 1:15:23]: And a fairly neutral approach to the rest of the sign types with that green carrying through. [1:15:23, 1:15:32]: Again, because we're in the schematics phase, we still have opportunity to continue to develop exactly what percentage these signs are neutral or colorful. [1:15:33, 1:15:41]: But in today's presentation, we wanted to show you two that are somewhat different. You can see even for the vehicular directional and and the park ID. [1:15:41, 1:15:46]: They're still somewhat neutral with just a strong hit of the stock bridge green. [1:15:47, 1:15:50]: The second option becomes much more colorful. [1:15:51, 1:16:08]: You see the stockbridge green in the upward arcs with white uh potentially illuminated individual floating letters up on top of your colored arcs. And then you can also see here on the secondary monument. [1:16:08, 1:16:21]: how those could be colored where the faces of them are the Stockbridge green with a tonal version, white letters, and then the backs of your arcs are the colors. So you get a little bit more playfulness. [1:16:21, 1:16:32]: You also see as an alternate the potential for quarry stone for the masonry bases. And then you also see um on the tertiary monument how the colors begin to get somewhat more reduced. [1:16:34, 1:16:48]: And then finally for the vehicular directionals, they take the same and the park ID, they take the same expression with a dark hit of green, uh colorful arcs below, and then colored back behind the vehicular directional here. [1:16:51, 1:17:11]: And so, what we hope these options both do is provide some opportunity for your initial feedback. Are we on the right track for the forms of the signs themselves? Taking inspiration from the original primary monument along the interstate, and creating a family that is not duplicative or [1:17:11, 1:17:16]: or repetitive of each sign type, but still feels very cohesive and unified. [1:17:18, 1:17:25]: That is where we are today for the sign process. Well, thank you for the presentation. [1:17:25, 1:17:38]: Start as to say option B sounds good to me, looks good to me, it's more colorful, more brightness and I dislike the brightness myself in that aspect. But the council obviously has their own opinion on how and what they think about this. Anyone? Go right ahead please. [1:17:41, 1:17:43]: Yeah, I like the uh design um [1:17:45, 1:17:49]: Uh if you sc scroll down just a little bit the one at top um [1:17:50, 1:18:04]: I I I like that design because it it does show that we're it it it almost shows like a bridge, you're bridging the community together and commit and we talked about uh logo being where community connects and it and I I think it says a lot in that. [1:18:05, 1:18:06]: Uh I'm not too [1:18:07, 1:18:11]: Not too finally the other ones that look almost like something to m in my opinion. [1:18:11, 1:18:14]: Like you would see for the railroads. [1:18:15, 1:18:15]: To me. [1:18:15, 1:18:35]: But that one itself, I I like that for us exiting off of uh ramps and uh I think this I think it has a class classiness to it also, but I think it speaks to what we're what the city is actually doing. We're connecting and it and we're stopped bridge and and it shows that bridging. I think it's it speaks a lot of it. I'm I'm not too [1:18:35, 1:18:55]: crazy about the other ones on there, sir. Go right ahead, sir. You know, Mr. Blount, I actually agree with you. I I like the one. I think the green is just too strong uh on the on the bottom. It's just cause it to me it reminds me of a regular highway sign. You see green signs throughout Georgia, it wouldn't stand out because all of the signs are green. [1:18:55, 1:19:15]: When you get off the interstate, so it will kind of blend in. But that first one there with the different colors in it and the stockbridge green. The green stands out because it's it's it's it's mint, it's highlighting the city name, so the green kind of stands out. So I do like uh that one, uh, which is the first. [1:19:15, 1:19:31]: one and I would probably duplicate the first three on the last two. Something very similar with less color of that green. But I I like the green. I just think the green needs to be a splash versus dominant. Yeah. Understood. [1:19:32, 1:19:33]: Anybody else? [1:19:34, 1:19:40]: I don't too particularly like the base, um, that color of the base. [1:19:40, 1:19:40]: Um [1:19:41, 1:19:43]: So but other than that, I'm fine. [1:19:43, 1:19:46]: I agree with my councilmates, other than the base colour. [1:19:47, 1:19:49]: Um on these option B. [1:19:50, 1:19:55]: If you'll scroll down, I like that base color. Corey still the gray. Yes. [1:19:59, 1:20:19]: Member Pro Tamlin, everybody spoke but you, sir, didn't want if you had any comments. Yes, I do. Um in the session that we met, I I I think I agree as well with the excuse me for for lack of a better reason, you know, the Eiffel Tower. Um but um but that is the one that I do love. [1:20:19, 1:20:24]: like um in the session that we met, I do like that and um [1:20:25, 1:20:29]: А з міс барбаса індикато. [1:20:29, 1:20:32]: We make it play with that a little bit, but um [1:20:32, 1:20:44]: But I do like that one and I do like the the green star bridge and the different colors. So that seemed to be the consensus that, you know, we do sort of like that one as a as a as a starting point. [1:20:44, 1:20:52]: I I'll chime in May if I could. I I I could go with that uh good base. I think the bass, as you said, does kind of match better what we would have up top. [1:20:54, 1:21:00]: Uh I got a qu question. Go right here, sir. When you did that base, were you looking at something that would [1:21:00, 1:21:02]: Kind of bounce off of City Hall. [1:21:03, 1:21:13]: We were and that's what it looks like to me and I that's why I liked it because it it kind of when you when you c come in into Stockbridge, that that's what you're gonna see when you get to City Hall. [1:21:13, 1:21:19]: That's correct. And that is we we know that there is a certain level of um [1:21:20, 1:21:26]: connection that is required to just simply tie the you know tie this identity together [1:21:26, 1:21:33]: And that is where we were inspired to use that particular those particular colors, but we also feel that um [1:21:34, 1:21:45]: Whether it's the option one base or the option two base, there's still a lot of development and studies that we can do, and either one is very complementary to um either of these color schemes. [1:21:49, 1:22:09]: Okay. So the objective is for us to uh uh we've may gave our opinions. The objective is uh is to tell you exactly which ones we want and go forward with that, or what's the objective to make sure I understand? I I appreciate the the the request for clarity. The um objective today is to essentially s approve the direction in which we're [1:22:08, 1:22:10]: Okay. [1:22:12, 1:22:32]: Provide any if there's any absolute rejections of forms that you see here on this page, if somebody just does not like the park ID sign, which is this last one down here, we know that that's we need to make a departure from where it's looking, uh from how it looks today. Otherwise we will simply continue to develop. [1:22:32, 1:22:35]: You know, everything's very sketchy and um [1:22:35, 1:22:49]: somewhat unrefined right now. The next stages are for us to ensure that it doesn't look too industrial like the railroad, to work through what the lighting looks like. Do some of these um have an extra detail on the sides, things like that. [1:22:50, 1:22:58]: And um everyone has very kindly responded around a color direction, so we have that to move forward with as well. Okay. [1:22:58, 1:23:09]: So otherwise we gave your your our input, you got a kinda general consensus of that thus far. So no vote is necessary at this point and you're gonna come back at a later date with the [1:23:10, 1:23:20]: with the consensus and the drawings and then we'll g uh go through this again. That's correct. Okay. All right. You got any questions? Yeah, you got qu yes sir. One one more quick question. With with the arc. [1:23:21, 1:23:21]: Uh uh. [1:23:22, 1:23:42]: And I'm sorry, forgive me if I missed some type of meeting that you we all had, but what areas were you looking to put this? That's a great question. So these largest signs would go on the interstate. And let me back up to that um page, but essentially at the northernmost and southernmost. [1:23:42, 1:23:47]: Mm. [1:23:47, 1:23:52]: Those that is where we pro where we propose. So exit two twenty two here. [1:23:52, 1:23:55]: And two twenty eight here. [1:23:56, 1:24:12]: And we can also work through that. Um there will be further development into budget analysis, which will inform how many of each signs go where, uh, as well as physical space. Um [1:24:14, 1:24:16]: to get a little bit more detailed. [1:24:16, 1:24:21]: Now that we have a general consensus on the direction, we're go we are going to dive even deeper into [1:24:22, 1:24:30]: G dot restrictions, ensuring that the orientation is correct, the bases are correct, and so that will also inform where some signs. [1:24:30, 1:24:33]: are physically allowed to go, not just where we want them to go. [1:24:34, 1:24:40]: And and will you be providing the uh actual measurements on what you guys are gonna'cause I don't think I could see it on here. [1:24:40, 1:24:46]: We w we will be we have some estimates. Um I apologize, I didn't stop um [1:24:47, 1:24:50]: And spend a lot of time on those measurements, but [1:24:53, 1:24:54]: There we go. [1:24:55, 1:25:15]: So currently this sign is estimated around twenty-seven feet tall. Um we will play with that as well once we start diving a little deeper into how these are engineered. Uh the secondary monument is around eighteen feet. Again, we'll play with those depending on where they're placed. For example, the photograph that we had showed. [1:25:15, 1:25:17]: So [1:25:17, 1:25:25]: Cranes can't lift within a certain distance of power lines, so we have to we are going to dive deeper into the specific locations in the next step. [1:25:25, 1:25:30]: The tertiary monument is uh currently scaled at ten feet. [1:25:30, 1:25:40]: Um you would typically find those um in more suburban areas where you know you simply want a more intimate looking sign that still has some presence. [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: And then the vehicular directional we currently have scaled at twelve feet, which [1:25:45, 1:25:52]: usually allows for your standard six inch tall copy so that it's readable by vehicles going at certain speeds. [1:25:52, 1:25:59]: And then our park guide design we have scaled at a seven foot tall height, which is again, we will do further studies, but [1:25:59, 1:26:04]: It could probably reduce a little bit, but it's not too far off from a more [1:26:05, 1:26:06]: typical size. [1:26:06, 1:26:11]: Okay, c cause the stock bridge sign I see uh I think it's beautiful. [1:26:11, 1:26:18]: But it's gonna have a whole lot of different welding points to it. That's correct. And I just wanna make sure it's gonna be looking like that. [1:26:19, 1:26:30]: Two years from now, you know. Three years from now. Well, it should look like that for twenty years. Well we hope so'cause um that design's gonna have a whole lot of little welding points to it. So Well our [1:26:30, 1:26:50]: And and I apologize. Um we I did not introduce our company, but our our company is over uh thirty years. I've been personally with the company for over seventeen, and um we specialize in architectural signage. So our goal is that unless we intentionally design the sign to show welding connection points and hardware, you're not going to see it. [1:26:50, 1:26:54]: Okay. Thanks. [1:26:55, 1:26:59]: Is I six seventy five not included? [1:27:00, 1:27:06]: Uh I think we did have it on there. For one of those interstate signs. I was just curious. [1:27:07, 1:27:10]: It's one of the best levels to the [1:27:10, 1:27:14]: Oh, the spur. Right. We have one there. I d [1:27:14, 1:27:24]: We need to figure out what our footprint availability is for every location. It's technically best Playton County. So we've gotta kinda figure that out. [1:27:24, 1:27:40]: And honestly that's part of the discussions is um the hierarchy of placement and which again, which signs go in which location. And and our goal for the secondary sign was that where we k may not put [1:27:40, 1:27:47]: the our Eiffel Tower, that the secondary sign is as good of a gateway identifier as the primary. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: Any other questions from the council? [1:27:53, 1:27:58]: All right, thank you for the presentation. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. Uh-huh. [1:27:58, 1:27:59]: Take this. [1:28:02, 1:28:16]: Okay, Council's consideration to approve benefits renewal for calendar year twenty twenty three, United Healthcare for medical dental visual coverage affected January one, twenty twenty three, and it has here Mr. Gardner and Miss Wheeler. [1:28:21, 1:28:22]: Mayor Ford. [1:28:22, 1:28:36]: Yes, ma'am. The previous item, um, it doesn't require an approval from the council. No, not I didn't I that's what I was asking earlier. I didn't think we needed to vote on that. The item on the agenda says council consideration to approve. [1:28:36, 1:28:39]: The city of Stockbridge Wayfinding Site. [1:28:39, 1:28:43]: Uh designs. [1:28:43, 1:28:45]: They don't need an approval from it. Thank you. [1:28:47, 1:28:48]: Okay. [1:28:49, 1:28:50]: I think we're good. [1:28:51, 1:29:07]: Oh y'all, what do y'all it's is uh Okay. I think we what I mean that's what do y'all wanna do? We can take a vote real quick. I mean it don't matter. Well what it is is that we're gonna continue moving in earnest and then come back and come back and come back with those okay, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. [1:29:07, 1:29:14]: No say these this table to come back. That w that way click would have something. [1:29:14, 1:29:32]: Well uh we know okay. Cl okay. Clerk do you clerk you have clarification? You need clarification, are you good or what what do you uh what I noted was that there would she was asking for a consensus to make sure that they were moving in the d in the right direction. [1:29:32, 1:29:39]: And if there was anything that you all needed to delete or eliminate so that they would not continue down that path. [1:29:40, 1:29:57]: All right. Well see they now stepped out of here now too, but um Well I took it as there was a consensus basis. Well that's why I thought there was a consensus from the council. That's why they were the young lady back here was taking notes. Yeah, the young lady in the back was taking notes on everything. So Mayor Ford, can I just um [1:29:58, 1:30:03]: I move for us to approve the City of Stockbridge wayfinding schematic designs. [1:30:04, 1:30:06]: All right, zero second motion. [1:30:07, 1:30:08]: Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir, I'm sorry. [1:30:10, 1:30:30]: Uh Councilmember Barber, if if you would kinda give us to for staff to keep moving in the direction I think as as outlined in the presentation, that would help us more rather than the the approval, because it makes it seem like we're approving what you guys see and it's still not all done yet. Okay. So I motion to um [1:30:30, 1:30:35]: Allow stab to continue with their schematic design work. [1:30:35, 1:30:38]: All right, is there a second to the motion? Second. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:30:40, 1:30:41]: Thank you. Okay. [1:30:42, 1:30:46]: And um Miss Holliday, you you got that ma'am? Okay, it's a good deal. Thank you. [1:30:46, 1:30:47]: Hi Miss Willer. [1:30:47, 1:30:50]: On you ma'am. Okay, good evening, Mayor and Council. [1:30:51, 1:30:54]: Um come before you um this evening to [1:30:54, 1:30:59]: Renew our benefits as always for the next calendar year. [1:31:00, 1:31:01]: Um in your [1:31:02, 1:31:04]: information that you received [1:31:04, 1:31:14]: Um there is a overview of what is taking place for the renewal um for this year and staff's recommendation. [1:31:14, 1:31:20]: Um Tom Hayes, who is from MSI Benefits, will go into more detail of the [1:31:20, 1:31:27]: um the marketing of our benefits to the various carriers and how we have come to the [1:31:27, 1:31:29]: uh to recommend united health care. [1:31:29, 1:31:32]: Um for next year. Okay. [1:31:33, 1:31:34]: Welcome, sir. [1:31:36, 1:31:56]: Uh a question, I guess the air is on, is that what that's what we that noise? Is that heat or air? It sounds like it's probably cold being cold. Yeah, it's uh that's the air. We we just turned the temperature down just a little bit. Okay. Turn it up just a little bit because it was getting kinda cold. Okay. All right, so making adjustments. [1:31:56, 1:31:58]: All right, thank you, sir. Yes, sir, please. [1:31:59, 1:32:19]: Yes, uh good evening, uh Mr. Mayor and City Council. My name's Tom Hayes with MSI Benefits Group. Um I was here, uh John Lega is is uh typically here for each renewal and he had a a conflict, but I work closely with him and and with this renewal that's been going on for uh a couple months since August or so, um looking at the best options for the city Stockbridge. [1:32:18, 1:32:23]: for the uh twenty twenty three health insurance benefits as well as dental envision. [1:32:24, 1:32:44]: Um so everyone should have a uh benefit presentation for today. Um I'll quickly go through page two is just a uh review of what the city did for this for for lat or for the current year for 2022. So this was from from last year. So as of uh the 2022 renewal, uh the city would have [1:32:44, 1:33:04]: Had a medical loss ratio that ran at 108%. Um so the insurance carriers look at that. 108% basically essentially means that for every dollar premium paid, uh Cygna, who's the insurance carrier, is paying a dollar and eight cents out in claims. So as of last year, Cygna had a uh medical renewal workup that [1:33:04, 1:33:18]: requested a 23% renewal increase. Um we going going back with them there was a non-marketed renewal offer from them to reduce it down to a 10% increase, which was accepted by the city. [1:33:18, 1:33:38]: had a non-marketed renewal for 10% uh with no plan change designs, no changes to the employee deductions. Um there was a small increase for the uh dental about eight point uh three percent and then no other changes so the uh overall budget increase for twenty twenty two was a hundred and ninety thousand dollars [1:33:38, 1:33:48]: that put the uh budget for medical and dental for the city for twenty twenty two at uh just about uh two million six hundred two million uh sixty thousand dollars. [1:33:50, 1:34:10]: As of on page three, this is what we're looking at for 2023. Uh like I mentioned, um, we've been working on this for uh for the last few months since uh August when we were able to get Cygnus Renewal and look at other options. The three options you see there, these are the the best options. MSI, we've marketed [1:34:10, 1:34:30]: The the benefits to all the different carriers. So, you know, we had Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, we had we got a quote from Aetna, a quote from Himana, a quote from Kaiser Permanente. Those other carriers in in a different presentation, they were uh listed on there, but uh you know, simplified it here since those were all higher um and more like increases rather than [1:34:29, 1:34:47]: And then we have a couple really good offers on the table here. So with Cygna, the initial renewal increase was um you'll see on that first uh on the far left there in the middle that you got the current cost and the renewal. They were requesting that it's in the highlighted in yellow 14.7% increase. [1:34:48, 1:35:08]: We took this to market, got a very good renewal back or um proposal back from United Healthcare. We also did look at a self-insured option through uh company called SBR Strategic Benefit Resources, if the city wanted to be self-insured rather than a fully insured option. Uh you'll see in the middle United Healthcare, which uh [1:35:08, 1:35:28]: uh Miss Wheeler had mentioned was looking like the uh would be the the the most uh efficient best option for the city. Um it came back with a ten point five percent decrease from uh from what you are currently paying uh with Cigna. This was presented to Cygna and they came back with uh about five percent decrease. [1:35:28, 1:35:48]: Decrease on what their renewal would be. This is the same plan design. The only change is highlighted in red. For the pharmacy on tiers three and four, it's an increase somewhat for the tier three. Those are usually non-preferred brand name drugs. That'd be a$75 copay rather than$60. And then Tier 4. [1:35:48, 1:35:57]: Which are specialty drugs would be$150 copay, which is a more standard copay for a specialty drug that falls under tier four. [1:35:57, 1:36:13]: Um now then then there's also the SBR self-insured option off to the right there. You'll see that's about 8.5% decrease. Uh so it was looking, you know, that's a also a good option, but the United Healthcare did come in uh lower than that as well. Um [1:36:13, 1:36:33]: Down below in the orange, you will see that that shows what the annual net increase or decrease would be. So in United Healthcare, if you accepted this renewal or this proposal, your uh annual net decrease would be$371,000. Um$371,126 uh for 2023. [1:36:33, 1:36:53]: Now, with the Cygna renewal, you'll see there's some renewal notes off to the right side there. What that's talking about is with Cigna, you're currently on a, they call it like a level-funded uh plan, which means that the city could be eligible to get a surplus at the end of the year if you run well with your claims. And through subconscious, [1:36:53, 1:37:13]: September, your claims the city would would could get a refund of about$83,000. If that kept on running as is, the refund could be$100,000. Thinking down below, when you're looking at this revised renewal with Cigna, your annual net decrease. [1:37:13, 1:37:28]: decrease would be 170,000. If the claims happened, you know did run that same way and you got a$100,000 surplus, you'd be at$270,000 decrease while the United Healthcare quote is$100,000 cheaper than that, still at$371. [1:37:29, 1:37:33]: Um and then the the self insured options at three hundred thousand. [1:37:35, 1:37:36]: Um [1:37:37, 1:37:52]: The following page I can kind of skip over that's when SBR Advantage and the self-insured plan, the third option that we were showing on there. Um, you know, initially that was looking like the best option, but again, that United Healthcare fully insured plan uh was was offered. [1:37:53, 1:37:58]: On page five is your dental renewal and also options. So [1:37:59, 1:38:06]: Uh Cygna, which is who the city currently has for their dental envision, uh had a four point uh eight two. [1:38:06, 1:38:26]: uh percent increase for the dental. So it'd be going for that 35.99 for employee only is up to 3772 is a a monthly premium for for an employee. United healthcare had matched with the the current plan design as well as what the current rates are. So there would be no change in in in the cost or the deductions. Another important thing [1:38:26, 1:38:28]: to note is with United Healthcare. [1:38:28, 1:38:48]: the um medical rates that are shown here are showing a two two and two point five percent bundled discount um if you add the dental envision. So it's be of it it would be advised that if you were gonna go with United Healthcare, you'd want to to take the dental envision to get that two and a half points off your medical uh premiums. [1:38:48, 1:38:58]: Uh Aetna was also proposed on there as a standalone, a little bit lower, same plan design, still covering the employee 100% for dental insurance. [1:39:00, 1:39:04]: Visions on page six and it's uh kind of the same story here. [1:39:04, 1:39:20]: United Healthcare matched the uh plan design. It actually has a little bit better, pays thirty percent after a hundred thirty dollar allowance on frames. So it's uh you know, tad better than the current plan, and also matched um Cygna's current plan and which was a a flat renewal on there. [1:39:22, 1:39:42]: Um the next few pages is with uh AFLAC. So currently the city has individual uh accident insurance, there's a critical ill illness insurance, and then there's a hospital indemnity insurance. These are supplemental insurance um policies that are um you know that are optional for insurance. [1:39:42, 1:40:02]: employees and right now as an individual um apparently there's been some customer service issues with it each plan um you know it's it's it's uh a little bit harder to to handle administratively so we're offering on here there's like a group group insurance rather than an individual plan so we can move it [1:40:02, 1:40:22]: It to a group group uh crit group accident, group critic group critical illness, and a group hospital indemnity. And um it should just make it easier uh administratively. Everything could be uh enrolled online through the benefit um enrollment site instead of uh individual um paper applications. Um also could be in the [1:40:22, 1:40:30]: The employee benefit handbook, and uh usually with the customer service, it's it's we're seeing that it's just been a little bit better than those individual plans. [1:40:30, 1:40:48]: If employee did want to keep their certain critical illness plan, they still could too. It would just be off the payroll deduction and they could just pay that, you know, as a monthly payment to AFLAC if they didn't want to switch over to like a group plan instead. So they still have the option to keep their individual plan if if they uh really wanted to. [1:40:51, 1:41:01]: Um and then on page ten is just a quick summary of everything that I was just talking about. So you can see um you know the annual premium. [1:41:02, 1:41:05]: Yeah, I'm tapping ten. [1:41:06, 1:41:10]: Unless they have a different presentation. Okay. [1:41:11, 1:41:23]: I guess it's on page nine for your presentation. Um and that simply just shows uh your an annual budget and um looking between the medical dental vision and the totals on there. So [1:41:23, 1:41:24]: Um [1:41:24, 1:41:44]: You know, for the the medical on there you'd be with if with United Healthcare, um employees would have no different cost and the city would be seeing a ten point five percent decrease for uh twenty twenty three. Um so the annual net total would be uh three million hundred four uh forty eight thousand and some change. [1:41:47, 1:42:07]: And and that's it. That's everything. I think you have a question, sir? Yeah. Go right in, please. That's uh obviously this sounds like a win. Um with three hundred and seventy one thousand thousand dollars in savings. I mean it's kinda like a no brainer. The only thing the only question that I really had was I always like, you know, when we're passing on costs to [1:42:07, 1:42:27]: the employees to see what we can do to minimize that. Now you went over some things about uh some of the costs going up in terms of what the prescriptions uh benefits. Just for it's for a non-preferred brand name and specialty drugs, right? So to explain that to me, so what is that so that's d if they don't get [1:42:27, 1:42:29]: Get the generic brand or what what [1:42:29, 1:42:47]: Right. This is um vast majority of of employees would be taking a tier one or tier two. Tier one are like your basic generic drugs, pretty cheap, like um blood pressure medicine or something like that. Tier two um are gonna be like uh preferred brand name drugs out there. [1:42:48, 1:43:07]: Yeah, so some a little bit like yeah, so brand name and a little bit more expensive than just uh the generics. So tiers three and four is gonna be a uh probably smaller amount of people who who would actually take that. Um and usually tier three it's like a non-preferred, so usually there's a preferred one there. Like your eloquence, some of the very high [1:43:08, 1:43:10]: specialty drugs that employ um that [1:43:11, 1:43:18]: individuals are taking now that you see advertised a lot. Some of those drugs may fall into the specialty drug. [1:43:18, 1:43:28]: um category. We don't know exactly what the different drugs are out there, but we know that eloquists, um, jardiance [1:43:28, 1:43:48]: Um some of them fall under that. I mean I take one but I'm able to get it under the tier one or tier two. But it's some of your high level specialty drugs that employees all the time. So in essence they would still still be able to get the medication. So somebody's on a heart medication or they on some type of brand they could get it, they just couldn't get it [1:43:48, 1:43:54]: Depending depending on what their doctor prescribes for them. [1:43:54, 1:44:14]: But they'll still be able to get the dr any type of pharmacy. So the premium the markup is just if they want a specialty drug. Right. Some people do not like generics type of things. Yeah, if it's like a non preferred um then that would be what the markup would be. Or a specialty or like the ver you know, uh uh the really high expensive drugs, the ones [1:44:14, 1:44:33]: That could be, you know, five thousand dollars a month, ten thousand. Usually specialty drug is anything that's over like a thousand dollars a month. So um, you know, the the very, very expensive ones. And that and the hundred and fifty is um honestly what you all had right now is the sixty dollars. That's very, very low. Uh 150 is a more [1:44:33, 1:44:42]: more standard about what the copay generally is for a drug like that. The you know, the subscriber and member paying the one hundred fifty dollars, um, and then the rest covered for'em. [1:44:43, 1:45:03]: So I guess my d i if we saving three hundred and seventy one thousand dollars to start with, to begin with, if you change that to what we currently have, how much would that affect the pol how much would that affect where we are? If we went you said we're doing sixty now, if we made that number sixty and this is how does that fluctuate the dollar amount that we [1:45:03, 1:45:05]: [6305.6, 6325.6]: So United Healthcare, this is like a fully insured plan. And they have kind of um set plan designs that they offer. Um they're not as like customizable as like a fully insured plan uh can be. And even for Cigna, they can customize theirs a little bit more. Um usually United Healthcare and Anthem, a few other carriers, kind of just um [1:45:25, 1:45:34]: Um I guess for their own uh admin, uh they just have like a set plans that they they design and offer. So you can't really uh you can't [1:45:35, 1:45:55]: uh customize as much for each co-pay on there. So so what have that smaller I just want to make sure that we're we're not in c we're not putting somebody in a position that they need a drug then you know you to us going from sixty dollars to a hundred and fifty dollars might not be a big deal but to someone else who's making less [1:45:55, 1:46:01]: Yes, it may be. So you're saying this is an anomaly that somebody might find themselves in that category? [1:46:02, 1:46:22]: Um yeah, I mean I I'm not sure how many people are taking like a specialty drug, but it's um usually for more serious cases for like MS or if you have cancer or something like that, which you probably meet your max out of pocket either way, um, for a lot of those. And then this the tier three that fluctuates with the formulary that these carriers make. Um [1:46:22, 1:46:42]: And usually there's other alternatives out there um if they didn't want to pay the$75 copay to look at having you know be a preferred brand instead. But but see that's the thing that kind of get me. See if somebody's on cancer drug, I don't know if I want, you know, raise their rate. So that's why I was asking if there's as a trade-off to whether we could kinda, you know, take [1:46:42, 1:46:54]: You know, not get three seventy one, maybe get three sixty one and keep them at the same place they already are. Right. I I would use I'll use me as an example. Right. So I had to [1:46:54, 1:47:04]: I was prescribed a a drug by um I specialist and that drug was five thousand dollars or six thousand dollars. [1:47:05, 1:47:22]: My um primary care doctor obviously recognized that that was those premium drugs and gave me a substitute that was in the hundred dollar range versus that that premium amount. She she said that there's something else out there for you to utilize rather than that drug. [1:47:23, 1:47:29]: Um, so that's what I actually end up having to use. Uh, you know, if I could afford to pay the five thousand I would've but [1:47:30, 1:47:30]: You know. [1:47:31, 1:47:51]: I I and I don't know, we don't probably have the numbers with us on maybe how many of our employees would or prefer those, but I will tell you that it's it's probably less than the people you fingers you could count on your hands in terms of the number of employees who might actually want that type of drug or or probably would prefer it and their doctor would always [1:47:51, 1:47:53]: to give them the alternative if you can. [1:47:55, 1:47:57]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:47:57, 1:48:17]: Yeah, thank you for your presentation. The the thing that concerns me and and in line with Mr. Alexander, the thing that concerns me when you fit uh switching uh providers, help providers, is one of the things you have to look at is that when those people that have pre existing conditions, how does it fold over to the other help provider? [1:48:17, 1:48:18]: What [1:48:18, 1:48:38]: uh because they dictate what drugs they're going to cover and not cover. And if they cover you, they dictate rather they're gonna cover that as a higher cost and that may be outside line with what they're what the people are paying now. So you you you look at uh pre existing conditions and and the coverage they have now and you look at uh the doctors [1:48:38, 1:48:39]: Under [1:48:39, 1:48:45]: the the doctors that they have, if they're specialty doctors, were those doctors still changed over also? [1:48:46, 1:48:53]: You know, w w because I remember that we we had United Healthcare at one time, and then when all that big conflict happened. [1:48:53, 1:48:59]: And I'm gonna say it because it's public information. When all the big conflict happened with Peak Mont Hospital, they just dropped the [1:49:00, 1:49:05]: it i it put everybody in a bind. And that's why we left United Healthcare in the first place. I remember that. [1:49:05, 1:49:12]: Mm-hmm. This is why we left United Healthcare because they operate under a different system than Signa operates under anyway. [1:49:13, 1:49:13]: So [1:49:14, 1:49:26]: I'm for me, I'm not for United Healthcare because of that, because of how they operate. And it's a totally different system schematically on what they do versus how Signa operates. [1:49:27, 1:49:47]: Yeah, um just to respond to that, I mean mo yeah, all these insurance carriers, you know, obviously have a network of providers that they work with and they have to negotiate with those providers and and and in that case sometimes it does, you know, where there's a conflict. It's uh there's a big one with Northside Medical Center and Anthem that finally got resolved. [1:49:47, 1:50:07]: After, you know, I think it was like eight months of them going back and forth at each other. Um so that is usually kind of a battle between these carriers. And sometimes um, you know, that has happened, like you know, healthcare and like Well Star at one point, but those uh contracts have been uh renewed since then. Um but can I can I interrupt you one second? Yes, sir. So you can adjust. [1:50:07, 1:50:11]: And what's common among health providers [1:50:11, 1:50:16]: Із гів'юсь да во бета анон компетер. [1:50:17, 1:50:25]: So they'll give you prices that we can get their business, but then next thing you know, those prices go up because that's not operational costs. [1:50:26, 1:50:35]: When you look at what we're do if you let me just put it, let me put it in layman terms. You got ten people and five of them are are costing more. [1:50:35, 1:50:37]: They'll do a competitive price. [1:50:37, 1:50:52]: But once they get your business next year, they're gonna go what's best operational for them. They're gonna say, hey, these five are costing us money. We can't operate with y'all like this unless we do. That's just how the system works. So these introductory prices that we're getting. [1:50:52, 1:51:12]: This is what I've seen since I've been on this council. That's everybody, Mr. Blount. And that's and that's what concerns me, Mr. Uh Gardner, is that these competitive the competitive rates versus introductory rates, that concerns me when you're talking about employees that have doctors, that have pre-existing additions, that that are that that have medications that [1:51:12, 1:51:32]: They have to have when you start to move around that money sometimes don't add up the dollar figure versus the house that you may be putting on employees. Right. So go ahead. Um I'm shooting my turn. When you change provide when you if you change provider and all of your associated costs are the same or they're lower. [1:51:32, 1:51:33]: You know. [1:51:34, 1:51:51]: One of the things they're gonna look at a year from now is what our claim ratios are. Right. And that's every insurance company in this country. They're going to look at if you had ten cancer events, then they're you that that changes the dynamics of what you're going to pay the next year. [1:51:51, 1:52:11]: Right. They they lock you in as much as you can, but the cost that you're getting today is a cost that you're locked into for the next year. Obviously they're gonna re-evaluate us based on our claim rate. That's that's the same thing if you hit your car. Your insurance rate is gonna go up the more you hit your car. Mr. Garden, I've I fully one hundred percent [1:52:11, 1:52:18]: Understand that system. So you're I understand that. But what we have to look at when we're changing providers. [1:52:19, 1:52:21]: And we had the professional here. [1:52:21, 1:52:29]: Those numbers are deflated for business, not actual numbers for operation. I'm trying to tell you now, I know this for a fact. [1:52:30, 1:52:35]: And if you can speak to that, you've seen it happen. You have to seen it happen. [1:52:36, 1:52:56]: These are, you know, they're underwritten firm rates. So uh whenever we send these for proposals, we send them um, you know, what what Cigna is at and the census and they have underwriters review the risk and and provide what the premiums are gonna be, what they would offer for a twelve month contract on there. So everything on there is set for the you know. [1:52:56, 1:53:16]: know that would be set for the entire year. The plan design would be you know set. So if somebody does have higher claims, they're gonna pay that. They look at a whole bunch of different factors on there. Y'all were running the city was running at 108% loss ratio. United Healthcare uh can be aggressive with their with their proposal [1:53:16, 1:53:36]: proposals because they think um I mean they they have contracts with you know these different providers and some carriers a little bit more aggressive with their contracts than others. So if Cygna's like, well, you know, with uh Well Star, we'll pay you this much and much for the contract. United Healthcare may take a little bit hard more hard-nosed stance at it and they paid them less for the exact same [1:53:36, 1:53:56]: service. Um, you know, CT scan with Cigna, they could be paying, you know,$2,000. United Healthcare is paying twelve hundred dollars. And they see the, you know, a network savings there that they could be a little bit more aggressive with the rates. Um we market the benefits every year, usually starting in around October or so. Um so you know changes can be made if [1:53:56, 1:54:16]: if if uh if it's not something you know that that employees are happy with because that's that's the main um concern and want to make sure that it's a smooth tr transition. Anytime you change insurance carriers, um it's kind of you know it's it's a big deal. Obviously people are on have uh doctors and and you know if they have certain prescriptions they're taking um [1:54:16, 1:54:36]: You know, we do an open enrollment and try to make sure all employees are aware of the change, the sit down with the benefit counselor, go over, you know, the d any changes that are happening, like with the copay there for the tiers three and four, get uh make sure they have a prior authorization for any um prescriptions that they are on, so there's no like hiccup when January first starts. [1:54:35, 1:54:41]: Um usually that's the big thing is like a PA or prior authorization for drugs. Um [1:54:41, 1:55:01]: But you know, any other pre-existing condition or anything like that, United Healthcare with this proposal is accepting the risk of the group and the health of the group as is. So um, you know, there's uh not a concern of if somebody has a ongoing illness that was being covered a certain way with Cigna is all of a sudden going to be declined and not covered. [1:55:01, 1:55:21]: And as far as the networks, um, you know, these are both the OAP is the open access plus networks, Cigna's large, like nationwide um network on there, and United Healthcare has this choice plus insurance, and that's essentially their same large network, you know, very similar to that, pretty much overlaps um very [1:55:21, 1:55:27]: like ninety eight, ninety nine percent. So like most any doc you know, most doctors should be in either network. [1:55:28, 1:55:44]: But there I I understand your concern about changing carriers. It you know, it's um it's you know, there's more work involved and and and have to you know, wanna make sure employees are aware. We just saw with the savings that the city could s uh have that it was worth looking at. [1:55:47, 1:56:07]: Go right ahead, please. Uh you know, Mr. Blount, I certainly can uh agree with what you're saying in terms of you know having the caution and that's why I asked some of the questions that I asked. But generally agreeing, you're telling us that we will be able to save three hundred and seventy one thousand dollars, pretty much everybody what what the people [1:56:07, 1:56:22]: have now they will be covered uh under up to the same degree and that's not gonna change for the next twelve months and should this situ should and I w this will be we'll be back in the same position next year to do it out again if we need be, if we need to change again. [1:56:23, 1:56:43]: Yes, yes, we could change again if you know, if uh United Healthcare doesn't you know, if there's customer service issues or or issues that uh you'll you all have that you'd want to change it, we could certainly change again. Um, you know, we don't know what the renewal will be like next year. Hopefully it's it's a really good one. These are all fantastic options. Um [1:56:43, 1:56:52]: You know, to be honest, I mean it's great to see a decrease uh anytime or even a flat renewal these days. Yeah, so it's all they're all good news. Um [1:56:52, 1:57:12]: Uh but yes we certainly look at that each year and can present a variety you know variety of options every year if you guys want to take a different direction. Uh based on what the recommendation is, I'm gonna go ahead and make a motion to approve and uh with the savings of three hundred and seventy-one thousand dollars and uh base getting um comp comparable coverage. [1:57:12, 1:57:14]: for the next twelve months. [1:57:14, 1:57:15]: Zero second. [1:57:17, 1:57:21]: There are second. Oh Miss Barber seconds that. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:57:23, 1:57:35]: Okay, I'll approve. Uh opposed? You No, I mean if that's what it the the direction of the council wants to go, I approve it. Okay, you approve. So it's four four. Unanimous decision. Unanimous decision four-o. Okay, thank you very much, sir. Appreciate the presentation. [1:57:36, 1:57:38]: Thank you, Ms. Mayor. Thank you, Councilman. [1:57:39, 1:57:51]: Council consideration approved the first uh progress briefing of the city council summarizing the benefits of uh establishing a tax allocation district and scheduled through adoption. Mr Gardner, please. [1:57:53, 1:58:02]: Yes, real quick, Mayor and Council. Um one of the things we've been working on as part of our initiative to provide for economic development. [1:58:03, 1:58:09]: um and economic development incentives was looking at how can we maximize [1:58:09, 1:58:19]: Um some of the existing plans that we have in place that would give us the authority to move forward with a tax allocation district. Um [1:58:19, 1:58:23]: The use of a tax allocation district was approved by the voters in twenty twenty. [1:58:24, 1:58:44]: Um that had to go on on the ballot and the majority of Henry County residents approved for Henry County and the four municipalities to develop tax tax allocation districts as part of their economic development incentive program. Um and so when we talk about a tad, you have two or three [1:58:44, 1:58:48]: three major tides in the state in the metro area that most folks know about. [1:58:48, 1:58:50]: The biggest one being Atlantic Station. [1:58:51, 1:58:54]: That used to be, if you remember, used to be a old steel mill. [1:58:55, 1:59:01]: Um back in the day and the cost associated with developing that property was prohibitive [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: Outside of the use of the tad. [1:59:04, 1:59:24]: And so with that, they were able to clean up the environmental issues associated with the old steel mill. And what you have here today is a vibrant mixed-use development in that on that same property, where before it was undevelopable because of the environmental challenge. The other one is located in the city of East Point. [1:59:24, 1:59:34]: The Cam Creek Marketplace on Cam Creek Parkway, right there off the Interstate 285. That's one of the actually the highest performing TAD right now in the state of Georgia. [1:59:35, 1:59:55]: That development would not have happened because the property on which it was developed had no infrastructure and needed it needed to be developed. And so that bond is actually moving in terms of paying it off in 30 years, is actually being paid off in 23. Um, I think it'll be paid off at the end of this year, if I'm not mistaken. Um it's one of the actually the highest. [1:59:55, 2:00:15]: Performing Tide. What this does is allow for us to make some infrastructure improvements, whether it be the use of a parking deck or water sewer, as we look to develop our downtown area and associate areas within the TIDE district for mixed use development and associated um commercial development. [2:00:15, 2:00:25]: What we did was I brought on our Blakely group to help us coordinate this effort because we had a lot of documents. We've we've we've moved somewhere down the road as it relates to [2:00:25, 2:00:45]: What's necessary to create a TAD. And so they're helping us put all of that together to to bring this TAD to fruition. That will be one of the biggest tools in our toolbox if we are able to get it approved through the main council. Along with some other incentives that we're gonna be working with the state. [2:00:45, 2:00:49]: So with that I'm gonna turn it over to Gary Mangian. [2:00:50, 2:00:59]: um to with the uh K B group to kinda give you guys um what he's found in in his work and the steps moving forward. Gary? [2:01:02, 2:01:22]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um I know it's getting late, and you have absorbed a tremendous amount of information tonight. Um and so I'm gonna continue that process, but I'm gonna try to go as fast as I can, I promise, and uh save time for questions and be respectful for your for your time. Um [2:01:22, 2:01:42]: Um Fred's kind of given you a good overview of uh what we've been uh retained to do. What I would like to do tonight, this is just informational uh to give you a sense of what's gonna happen in the next 45 days to get you to the point where if you choose to, you could adopt a redevelopment plan and establish a tax allocation. [2:01:42, 2:01:45]: district uh focusing on downtown. [2:01:47, 2:02:07]: Um to do that I just got to give you some a few uh definitions. Um you know, first, what is the Georgia Redevelopment Powers Law? That's the law that uh enables communities like Stockbridge to use what's called tax increment financing, which I'll explain in more detail later. Every state in the union and the District of Columbia. [2:02:07, 2:02:27]: Columbia uses this tool. About 80 cities and counties in Georgia already have approved redevelopment plans and tax allocation districts. Probably Henry was probably one of the last counties in Georgia, well, the urban counties to authorize redevelopment powers. [2:02:26, 2:02:43]: The closest TADs to you would be, again, East Point was mentioned, Forrest Park, College Park, South Fulton just approved a TAD last year. There are three tax allocation districts and unincorporated Clayton County. [2:02:43, 2:02:53]: So there were a number of these uh fairly near nearby, including Union City. And and so what's a tax allocation district? Well a ta a tax allocation district [2:02:53, 2:03:13]: Is basically an assembly of tax parcels where the local government have those parcels have to be within an approved redevelopment area and meet the definition and requirements of state law, where the local government has determined that tax increment financing could be used. The only requirements is be in a redevelopment area and the parcel. [2:03:13, 2:03:28]: Parcels are contiguous. This is an example of a TAD approved in 2021 in Canton, Georgia, surrounding their downtown, which would be pretty similar to what we're proposing or you could be considering here later in the year. [2:03:29, 2:03:48]: Um if you were to approve a redevelopment plan uh before December thirty-first, the TAD could become in effect uh in twenty twenty three. If you choose not to do that, then next available opportunity would be December of twenty twenty three to go into effect in twenty twenty four. [2:03:50, 2:04:06]: Um TADs usually have a a a finite life, uh typically twenty five to thirty years, but in some cases, as Fred mentioned, the TADs could be dissolved uh sooner. [2:04:07, 2:04:27]: Um so how does tax increment financing work? Uh well in Georgia communities are uh eligible to pledge real estate, personal property, and sales taxes up to 50 years for tax increment financing purposes. Typically in Georgia, only real estate taxes are pledged. [2:04:26, 2:04:36]: Uh typically no more for th than thirty years, but the Ellenwood Tad in Clayton County just up the road uh pledged uh their portion of the local option sales tax. [2:04:37, 2:04:38]: Um [2:04:39, 2:04:59]: The real estate tax that can be pledged includes both the city real estate tax, which you don't have one at the moment, as well as county and school district taxes. And the ability to get the consent of the county and school district is where the bulk of the revenue would come from to make [2:04:59, 2:05:19]: This work in your downtown. Basically, what would happen as of December 31st of this year if you approve the TAD, the base digest for the district would be set. From that point forward, all property taxes or any taxes that are pledged for the TAD associated with that base digest would continue to go to the general fund. [2:05:19, 2:05:39]: Funds of the city, county, and school district. Any incremental property taxes associated with value increases brought about by new private development in the district would go into a special fund managed by the City of Stockbridge to use to pay eligible redevelopment costs, which can be in the form of incentives to private. [2:05:39, 2:05:59]: Developers or public improvements to make help make projects financially feasible. In the case of the East Point TAD Friend mentioned, the revenues were used for public infrastructure. And other TADs that go directly to development incentives. I give you three quick examples of TADs located in downtown. [2:05:59, 2:06:19]: Areas and suburban locations. One is in Duluth. Right around the time you built this city hall, Duluth built a city hall on a very large town green in the center of their community. Their main street commercial district was about the size of yours next door. They assembled a lot of property around their new city hall, created a tax [2:06:19, 2:06:39]: Tax allocation district, and so far in about seven years, they have attracted$350 million in private investment. Most of it's completed. Uh they turned the site of their old city hall into a uh dining uh district with 10 restaurants. Um and again, they've they've incentivized seven. [2:06:39, 2:06:59]: Several hundred uh apartment units, townhomes, single-family homes, a hotel. I've been probably the most successful downtown TAD in Georgia percentage-wise in the Metro. Downtown Gainesville is another example. Gainesville about 2007. [2:06:59, 2:07:19]: Created a TAD for their what they call Midtown Gainesville District. They have never issued any bonds. They've basically done so far 10 what they call reimbursement agreements, where they just negotiate agreements with developers who are doing projects from small office buildings and rehabs all the way up to large [2:07:19, 2:07:39]: Multifamily developments and just negotiated agreements. If you create increment within our TED, we'll give you back a portion of that increment to make your project uh feasible. And so far, they've done again 10 projects and 150 million dollars in investment. And then the final example is downtown Douglasville. [2:07:39, 2:07:59]: Uh, which is creating right now is in the middle of constructing an amphitheater not nearly as large as yours in terms of capacity, but they took the south the site of the Douglas County Jail, which is about eleven acres located on the fringe of their downtown. They acquired that from the county, they demolished the jail site, they're building the amphitheater now. [2:07:59, 2:08:16]: And they've created a development site, about seven-acre development site for mixed use, multifamily development. They're on their second developer, it's probably gonna be an eighty million dollar project, and they wanna use the tax increment from that project to pay a portion of the debt service on the amphitheater bonds. [2:08:16, 2:08:36]: So that's just three examples. Fairly similar strategy uh to what you've been doing in Stockbridge. It's just been an enormous amount of public investment in and around within a quarter mile, half mile radius of this building over the last two decades plus. And now this tool is intended to help incentivize private investment. [2:08:36, 2:08:40]: uh to capitalize on all these public improvements you made. [2:08:41, 2:09:01]: So I mentioned this had this has to be part of a redevelopment plan, uh which the city council must adopt. Um and a redevelopment plan and a redevelopment area basically sets the geography which in Stockbridge that would qualify for this tool. [2:09:01, 2:09:21]: Development area has to meet certain definitional requirements in the state law. They're specified in the statute. It's up to us as your analysts to make sure the area we propose qualifies. It is part of a plan. And the tax allocation district can be the same geography as. [2:09:21, 2:09:38]: as a redevelopment area or the redevelopment area can be substantially larger and can actually have more than one tax allocation district within it. The only requirement is that the TAD must be contiguous and it must lie entirely within the boundary of a qualified redevelopment area. [2:09:40, 2:09:45]: Uh what qualifies a redevelopment area, again, it's it's there's a big long definition in the statute. [2:09:45, 2:10:05]: Uh and it's basically centered around growth. Uh areas of your community that have not grown as fast as other parts of the city, uh, where property values aren't as high as other parts of the city, there may be high vacancy rates, high poverty rates, high unemployment. The one thing that's not in the definition is slums and blight. That's under a different definition. [2:10:05, 2:10:25]: That's under the Urban Redevelopment Act, which you have an urban redevelopment area that includes this building. You always get somebody in a public hearing that says, Well, this area doesn't have slums and blight, it doesn't qualify. Well, that's a different statute. As a city council, you have to approve a resolution that declares. [2:10:25, 2:10:41]: declares that this area has suffered from inadequate investment, meets the definition, et cetera, et cetera. There's also this catch-all provision in the law that talks about the existence of conditions that, quote, substantially impair the sound growth of the community. [2:10:41, 2:10:48]: And what that basically means is that over the last two decades, you've done at least three plans that I know of for your downtown. [2:10:48, 2:11:08]: And to date, downtown doesn't look, it doesn't satisfy the vision that is articulated in those plans. So that's the basis. I mean, you've you've created these plans, you want your downtown to develop in certain ways. It hasn't happened because of financial feasibility reasons, and that's why you're doing [2:11:08, 2:11:24]: this. It's not because the area is blighted or full of slums or any of that kind of stuff. It's just not grown the way the city and your residents have stated that they want it in various planning efforts over over the last two decades. [2:11:25, 2:11:45]: Uh what information is required in a redevelopment plan? Well it's up to us to to make sure we write the plan that in in compliance with state law. We've done about 60 of these. Um so we have that kind of down pat. But basically, it just justifies the designation of the redevelopment area, sets out a strategy for [2:11:45, 2:12:05]: Accomplishing your goals, identifies eligible activities and costs, forecasts revenues, and sets the boundaries of the tax allocation district. That's what the plan does, in addition to some other things. The only other caveat you should be aware of that no jurisdiction can put more than 10% of its tax digest. [2:12:05, 2:12:12]: In tax allocation districts, whether that's one district or ten, like Atlanta has, is a maximum 10% cap. [2:12:15, 2:12:25]: So in Stockbridge, we've looked at a potential redevelopment area, run some demographics, pulled some um uh commercial property information. [2:12:25, 2:12:27]: And that area is kind of in yellow. [2:12:27, 2:12:47]: And it's pretty similar to the boundaries of the LCI plan that you did way back in 2001 that was updated in 2012. And within that TAD, within that redevelopment area, we're kind of looking in the red inside those red areas of areas that potentially could be within a tax L. [2:12:47, 2:12:48]: [7969.8, 7983.1]: Again, that's just what we're thinking right now. It's all preliminary. We hope to get your input, but that's kind of our current thinking of what would make sense and is consistent with what you've done in the past. [2:13:04, 2:13:12]: So, what's the rationale for this area? Again, we've looked at the demographics and commercial property values, et cetera. Um, it basically [2:13:13, 2:13:18]: It's basically identical to the uh LCI study area that's already been looked at. [2:13:18, 2:13:19]: Um [2:13:19, 2:13:39]: It clearly qualifies under the definition based on demographic income characteristics, the age of the housing stock, the relatively low value of the housing stock compared to the rest of the city, relatively slow uh growth in a number of areas, um, commercial rents, vacancy rates, etc. Um, and again. [2:13:39, 2:13:45]: And it also falls under that rubric of impairing the sound growth of the community because we can cite [2:13:45, 2:14:05]: The LCI study, the RSVP plan that you did in 2018, the LCI update, and your comprehensive plan all talk about this area and wanting to make investments in this area, increase density, do mixed-use development, have more people living downtown. All those things haven't happened to this point, and this is what the purpose of the [2:14:05, 2:14:08]: purpose of creating this tax allocation district is all about. [2:14:10, 2:14:30]: Uh that geography also includes when we drew the redevelopment area, it includes most of the city-owned property that you've assembled over the years, some of which you're using for public purposes, otherwise other sites you've disassembled eventually for purposes of making available for redevelopment. [2:14:30, 2:14:37]: and also some of the larger private uh undeveloped sites that are still available in this part of the city. [2:14:39, 2:14:50]: Um in the discussion about the amphitheater, there was talking you uh Councilman Blount were talking about well, what kind of examples do you rely upon? There is sort of a [2:14:50, 2:15:10]: Kind of an informal best practices that has developed over the years in terms of how do you right-size a tax allocation district. And again, we've done our firms worked on 40 to 50 of these things. I've done at least two to three dozen of these over my career. The important thing is to get the [2:15:10, 2:15:30]: Boundaries right because once you establish a tax allocation district is certified to a base year, if you decide three years from now you want to add some parcels, you have to reset the base to the values three years from now. So you lose any increment that's created. So it's important to get these things these things right the first time. And how we think about the [2:15:30, 2:15:43]: Geography, uh well first of all it's gotta reflect the strategy articulated in the redevelopment plan. Um that's pretty obvious. Um we try to include sites within the TAD where [2:15:43, 2:16:03]: Projects are planned or could happen both sh in the short term and things that could happen five years from now, ten years from now, that we haven't even thought about as a city. [2:16:03, 2:16:16]: necessarily the same places. Revenues generated within a TAD can be spent on eligible activities anywhere within the TAD, which makes it even more flexible than tax abatement types of redevelopment tools. [2:16:18, 2:16:38]: And we also like to include some properties where maybe nothing's going to happen on them directly, but as a result of investments that are going to incur, those values are going to increase uh over time as a result of being next to three or four or five significant projects. So we've included some residential subdivisions. You know, we don't [2:16:38, 2:16:58]: Expect you know houses to be demolished or any of that, but we expect values to increase over time because of other investments that are being that are being made. And we also try to exclude you know high-valued parcels that already have a high tax digest value and probably aren't going to change whether or not [2:16:58, 2:17:18]: You do this, that just chews up the amount of digest you can put in these districts. And then finally, there's always a political consideration. You don't want to do any anything that's likely to reduce your chances of getting consent from the county and school district. So those we're not familiar with those kinds of issues. [2:17:18, 2:17:20]: But that's you know where your input would be helpful. [2:17:21, 2:17:31]: Uh this next slide shows a study area that we're looking at. I've actually assembled property information for this area is three hundred and forty four parcels inside that white shaded area. [2:17:32, 2:17:52]: It's about 35.7 million in taxable digest within that area. Um it's about it's less than three and a half percent of the city tax digest. So it's kind of right in the ballpark. These boundaries are certainly going to change before you act on them, but this is kind of a first cut of what we're thinking. The interesting thing. [2:17:52, 2:18:12]: There's 323 existing housing units, including 131 single-family homes in this area. The average age of the housing stock is 55 years. And the thing that I found really interesting is that almost 36% of those single-family homes are owned by investors and rented. [2:18:12, 2:18:32]: And typically we find when you get into single-family neighborhoods when more than 20% of the housing units are invested or owned, that's when you start having problems. So again, that's kind of a kind of a thing we looked at to try to include: okay, which subdivisions do we include in the TED? Which do we leave out? You could obviously expand. [2:18:32, 2:18:52]: Expand this, contract this, but this is kind of our current thinking. There's also 132 acres of city-owned property in this TAD. Again, most of it's actively being used for things, but also includes some parcels that long term you want to make available for redevelopment. [2:18:52, 2:19:03]: And there's also 130 acres, including city-owned property, that's vacant and underdeveloped, which other people, you know, private sector owners could could develop in the future as well. [2:19:05, 2:19:25]: This next slide just kind of shows various areas, parcels within the within the potential TAD that are vacant where projects uh could occur. I've talked to Fred about some of these possibilities, other are just you know pure conjecture at this point. Um and again, the area immediately surrounding City Hall and [2:19:25, 2:19:37]: in and and your core downtown, you have ample plans to um you know to talk about implementing. And we're gonna try to put some numbers on what could happen inside those areas for the next meeting. [2:19:38, 2:19:58]: So what we're going to do next is we're going to continue to work on the boundaries and give you, you know, specific reasons and data on why the redevelopment area qualifies. Uh we're going to continue to work on the TAD boundaries and propose something to you, establish some kind of way that we could get input from the city council as well if you want to give [2:19:58, 2:20:18]: It to us. Start to look at potential projects, put numbers on potential projects, what revenues those projects could generate. TSW Design, who's been working with the city, who working on the Cultural Arts Center, among other things, is assisting us in that process of quantifying what's possible. [2:20:18, 2:20:21]: [8423.3, 8431.4]: And again, we're gonna kind of give you some forecast information and and suggest some potential uses of those proceeds. [2:20:31, 2:20:51]: So, how the schedule would play out is that in your November 14th meeting, we would come back with a presentation with that information, which essentially would say, summarize in a PowerPoint what the redevelopment plan is actually going to say. That gives you kind of a full month to think about that, suggest changes. [2:20:51, 2:21:11]: Et cetera, et cetera. We hope to deliver a draft of the redevelopment plan around the 21st of November, about a week prior to your November 29th City Council meeting. You are required by law to hold at least one public hearing to adopt a redevelopment plan. [2:21:11, 2:21:31]: So we would suggest that a public hearing be scheduled that night. The only thing you would need to do on November 14th is decide whether or not to schedule the public hearing. You could, if you chose, adopt the tax allocation district on November 29th, right after the public hearing. Most communities don't do that. [2:21:31, 2:21:51]: They typically wait until the next meeting. So we've given you the option of December 12th to actually vote on the resolution creating the TAD. That meeting also needs to be advertised, and because it has to be advertised as well, most communities will do a second public hearing that same night. [2:21:51, 2:22:00]: Eventually December twelfth is when you would have this agenda item to adopt the redevelopment plan and create the tax allocation district. [2:22:01, 2:22:21]: Uh after that occurs, assuming you pass it, uh we go to the County Board of Assessors. Uh they take the list of parcels we give them, they certify the values as being true and correct as of December thirty first. That information is submitted to the Georgia Department of Revenue in January, February of next year. You will get [2:22:21, 2:22:41]: The certification letter from the Commissioner of Revenue Commissioner of Revenue that the district's been approved. And that from that point forward, every year the county tax assessor has to do a separate digest for that tab. And that determines how much incremental digest growth has been created and how much revenue goes to the [2:22:41, 2:23:01]: The TAD fund. First quarter 23 is when you would go to the county and school district to request consent. That process can take anywhere from two weeks, which happened in uh Douglas County twice. That'd be great if that was that easy. [2:23:01, 2:23:10]: We've also had negotiations that are a year and a half and still ongoing. So you just never know. [2:23:11, 2:23:31]: So that's what would happen next. And I believe that's it. So if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Uh any input to the maps. I know again this is like feeding you information through a fire hose. Uh again, how to get input into this city council's [2:23:31, 2:23:43]: are always most interested in the boundaries. So what what's the map look like? I don't know whose districts this map falls into. Um there's no you know there's it entirely into [2:23:44, 2:23:56]: We don't have districts right now, but if if some other things happen it'll be two districts. Right. Um it'll be Councilmember Thomas and Councilmember Barber. Yeah. We could make sure. [2:24:01, 2:24:01]: Yep. [2:24:03, 2:24:23]: Yeah, I think the where we are in City Hall is the bound I think East Orland goes up on that right side is uh district all the way to Bottom here. And I think Mr. Thompson and uh uh boundaries cover the portion that's west of City Hall. [2:24:23, 2:24:25]: I'm going towards the Walmart shopping summer. [2:24:27, 2:24:37]: Yeah, you could you could extend these boundaries further, you could shrink them substantially. Um I'm reasonably satisfied with this as a starting point. [2:24:39, 2:24:59]: Again, I don't expect the final map to be identical to this. Um there's probably there's some opportunity to look at property further to the south of North Henry Boulevard. There's a couple areas um which could be added. Going further going closer to the highway, you get into some pretty dense high [2:24:59, 2:25:19]: high valued commercial development, um which would gener you know increase that three and a half percent of your digest to six or seven percent pretty easily. The way we've drawn the redevelopment area, if there's something happening out there three, four years from now, you could create a special a separate tax allocation district. [2:25:19, 2:25:39]: Specifically for that area near the highway. And all you would have to do is amend the plan, add the second TED. You wouldn't have to go through this long process of writing a complete redevelopment plan. City of Dalton's done that. Basically two meetings and it's done. So we want to give you the flexibility. [2:25:39, 2:25:50]: to make this document as easy as possible and anticipate as many opportunities in the future so you can address other parts of the city as well. [2:25:51, 2:25:55]: Any other? Thank you for your presentation. Really appreciate it. Mr. Blount, please. [2:25:56, 2:25:59]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh you know, one of the things about [2:26:00, 2:26:13]: Uh a few years ago when when uh the the um acronym of TAT was introduced to me and we looked at a lot of areas and we went to areas where TAS was actually functioning and working. [2:26:13, 2:26:14]: Um [2:26:14, 2:26:17]: There's a lot have to be put into [2:26:17, 2:26:20]: Да за лота граммворк хатип. [2:26:21, 2:26:25]: In order to this to be the next incentive for any development, redevelopment. [2:26:26, 2:26:31]: And I think they d they only use blighted now. I don't think they use the word slum anymore. I just wanna throw that out there. [2:26:31, 2:26:40]: But you have to look at the also the areas that the C D BG grants butts up to the areas where you talk. It is so much groundwork that needs to be laid out. [2:26:41, 2:26:43]: In order for a tad to work. [2:26:44, 2:26:51]: That we've got to do as a city right now. I mean, so much groundwork to still need to be laid out. So much. Incentive packages. [2:26:52, 2:26:59]: You know, what are we gonna give up? What are we gonna do? What we don't have, what we do have. It just and I don't wanna go into specifics. Sure. [2:26:59, 2:27:04]: But but we're in a area right now for me, and this is me, I've got a [2:27:04, 2:27:11]: Is that I'd like to see more f for me, um for me before this came before us. [2:27:12, 2:27:14]: But what what are we gonna do with the tag? [2:27:15, 2:27:19]: What are we gonna what what complements it to make development work with the child? [2:27:19, 2:27:23]: And I know those areas, but I just wanna make sure that we all understand. [2:27:24, 2:27:28]: that the progression of what is needed is not in place yet for me. [2:27:29, 2:27:45]: You certainly you have more work to do, but you've also been at this for twenty years and I wouldn't sell yourself short, you've accomplished you've accomplished a heck of a lot in terms of public improvements. I mean there's a hundred million dollars worth of public investment in this area already. [2:27:45, 2:28:05]: Yeah, and and now the challenge is to leverage those investments you've already made to create housing units, commercial development, mixed-use development. Your zoning ordinance talks about you have two overlay districts that talks about miss mixed use, the LCI plan. [2:28:05, 2:28:25]: Emphasizes mixed use. The study that the Carl Vinson Institute did in 2018 talks about mixed-use development in your core downtown. So you've laid a lot of groundwork. The objectives, you know, the overall objectives and community desires for this area have been set. [2:28:24, 2:28:36]: Now it's a as you say, it's a it's what do we do from here. And establishing the TAD kinda lays the groundwork for that. It's best as long as you get the geography right [2:28:38, 2:28:58]: You don't necessarily have to get all the details right, but it's best to set the digest of the tad when it's low, as opposed to when after things have already started to happen and values have increased. So that's you know reason the only probably the the the most important reason. [2:28:57, 2:29:17]: To think about doing it this year is what you think is going to happen to values. And then the second thing is if you don't do it by December 31st, you have to wait until December 31st of next year. So again, those are the considerations. Our job is to make sure this plan is flexible. [2:29:17, 2:29:28]: anticipates as many contingencies as we can think of, gives you the flexibility to do whatever you want and doesn't put any roadblocks in the way. Um [2:29:28, 2:29:35]: What w what I was hold on. Are you finished with your statement, sir? Yes. Okay. And you you're good? Well [2:29:37, 2:29:41]: Лайн та громворк нен фордис то. [2:29:41, 2:29:49]: It's probably something that I I'm I'd rather this I'm just gonna discuss it with the city manager. I don't wanna kinda put stuff out here that uh [2:29:49, 2:29:50]: that you know [2:29:51, 2:29:53]: There's some things that we need to do. [2:29:54, 2:29:55]: Uh you know [2:29:57, 2:30:00]: I I'd I'd I'd let Mr. Alexander go. All right, Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [2:30:00, 2:30:20]: Yeah, thank you for the presentation. And I think the the key thing that you hit on was that it the property values are low now. And when you go to the school board or you go and say, Listen, I need you to freeze the rate, you want them to freeze the rate low because they're giving up less money. So if you go to them and a couple [2:30:20, 2:30:40]: Couple of years when they build their STEM school and all these other developments come, you're asking them to give up a whole lot more money than now. And and what's playing in our favor is they've committed to build a$45 million STEM school here already. So they're gonna be encouraged to want to see uh great. [2:30:40, 2:31:00]: development uh enhance the area where they're making a forty-five million dollar investment. So it's essential that we do it now because once the values go up and we all understand you as you said the political element, when the board is presented with, you know, freezing the tax rate now [2:31:00, 2:31:20]: With giving up much less than they would be once the Cultural Arts Center is built and then once the SIM school is built, that's kind of where we are. So at this point, I'm encouraged by the fact that we can do this uh expeditiously and then put ourselves in a position where we can reinvest this money and put those things [2:31:20, 2:31:23]: in place that we need to put in place uh during that time. [2:31:25, 2:31:45]: Yeah, just to clarify, it's the it's the tax digest that's frozen. Millage rates always change and they will change in the future. That's right. And the amount of taxes collected with this within this trick district are gonna change year to year. It's just that percentage each year that goes goes to the city goes to the TAD fund and generates revenue. [2:31:45, 2:31:54]: And for you to do things and make investments in this area as opposed to kind of general fund expenditures is really what what the objective is. [2:31:55, 2:31:59]: Council, any other council members? No comment? Okay. You good? [2:32:00, 2:32:04]: Okay, go ahead, please. I'd like to um see a better map. [2:32:04, 2:32:10]: So I can see s the specific areas um that we're considering. [2:32:10, 2:32:14]: Um and I understand um the need for this tad. [2:32:14, 2:32:17]: It is the incentive that investors [2:32:17, 2:32:18]: Want. [2:32:18, 2:32:25]: To build here and we all want to revitalize our downtown and attract more investors. So thank you for the work, sir. [2:32:26, 2:32:46]: I believe this map that's shown on the screen w might not have been in your printed package. Um but you haven't well we do have a map but I'm not able to determine the street names. Um yeah, the street names. I can provide we'll I'll provide a map to everybody that's a little bigger but the district has a county as the county lays. [2:32:46, 2:32:48]: But like you said, that could shrink or [2:32:50, 2:32:58]: Uh uh expand a little bit, not too much, but this is pretty much the rough is what it's gonna be. But I'll provide that to you to the to council. Yes. Thank you. Okay. [2:32:59, 2:33:02]: No, you go you got questions? [2:33:03, 2:33:08]: You wanna see another map, sir he said? Yeah, with the street. I think it's gonna be usually [2:33:08, 2:33:12]: You're gonna be able you're not gonna be able to do that right now or or just gonna be the next time round? [2:33:13, 2:33:15]: We'll s we'll certainly get you a better map for the next meeting. [2:33:16, 2:33:36]: Okay. Um I think again the next time I'm in front of you uh will be to present the specifics of the plan. Um and that's when you just you'll probably need to decide whether you want to move forward or not. Uh if you choose not to move forward this year, then we stop. Uh if you [2:33:36, 2:33:55]: you choose to move forward and you want a draft plan prepared, you know, we we have to draft the plan in order to be able to give you the option to act on it in December. So really the next meeting is when you decide, okay, we'll move forward now, or we'll just take it in under advisement and do it next year. I mean that's your that's your option. [2:33:55, 2:34:06]: I just wanna reconfirm, can Mr. Gardner get us the map before Oh yes. Yeah, I'll get those mops to you all probably before the end of the week. We can get a a good size mop to you guys. [2:34:07, 2:34:07]: Ms. Barber. [2:34:08, 2:34:12]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to motion to approve the first progress briefing. [2:34:12, 2:34:17]: Of the city council summarizing the benefits of establishing a tax allocation district? [2:34:18, 2:34:19]: and scheduled through adoption. [2:34:20, 2:34:22]: Is there a second to the motion? Second. [2:34:22, 2:34:24]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [2:34:25, 2:34:28]: Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you. See you on the fourteenth. [2:34:30, 2:34:37]: Council consideration approved the Stockbridge Police Department Citizen Police Advisory Council policy. Chief Tramor, please. [2:34:43, 2:34:51]: Good evening again. I believe uh everyone on council has had an opportunity to review the policy. We briefed on it the last council meeting. [2:34:51, 2:35:10]: Now we're seeking council's uh approval of the policy so that we can move forward with soliciting applications from members to serve on the Citizens Police Advisory Council. Um I will reserve this time for questions now, if there are any from the council uh prior to asking for your consideration to vote on this policy. [2:35:11, 2:35:19]: Go ahead, Mr. Blount. Go ahead, please. I move to council to approve the uh Stockbridge Police Department Citizens Academy uh Council policy. [2:35:19, 2:35:21]: There's second? Oh, yeah, four. Yes, sir. [2:35:25, 2:35:29]: I just wanted to be sure with the correction that you uh [2:35:30, 2:35:32]: I like it. We are making the motion. [2:35:35, 2:35:54]: On the amended policy, that's correct, sir. I wanted to clarify something for you too, Mayor Pro Tem, that it is true that if you appoint the member and that person for whatever reason no longer serves on the board, that the appointing council member will have the ability to reappoint somebody else to serve in their position. [2:35:55, 2:36:04]: Well but but I I wanna just make sure that Mr. Blount's motion is on the modified version. [2:36:05, 2:36:25]: So I don't do you want to speak to that? I know everyone did receive it. Right. And we sent a we sent a follow-up uh earlier today on the modified policy. I know specifically Councilman Blount and I uh spoke about that modified policy and I believe that he was in agreement with that and that he is voting on that uh amended policy. And I and I appreciate your response and you agreed as well. [2:36:25, 2:36:26]: Yes, sir. Okay. [2:36:27, 2:36:35]: Mr. Blount, do you want to restate your motion, please? The motion is standing. He's it's been is All right, is there a second to the motion? I second. [2:36:35, 2:36:38]: Mira Pro Temp Second Man. Okay, any further discussion? Yes. [2:36:39, 2:36:44]: Go ahead, please. Okay. Chief Tramer. Yes, ma'am looking at this revised um copy it [2:36:45, 2:36:48]: mentions uh it the board will consider [2:36:48, 2:36:50]: Consist of twelve members. [2:36:51, 2:36:54]: But as I'm counting these appointed [2:36:55, 2:36:58]: Um or ex selected fruit. [2:36:59, 2:37:01]: I don't count twelve. [2:37:01, 2:37:07]: Right, so the mayor will appoint one, uh each council member will appoint one at six. Mm-hmm. Um [2:37:07, 2:37:20]: There'll be one member from each of the city's four patrol zones, which is four members, one member from the business community and one member from the faith based community. Okay. That's what I was missing. Thank you. Any further discussion? [2:37:21, 2:37:28]: Mayor Ford, I just need clarification on the open meeting section. It's not changed on the revised revised topic. [2:37:28, 2:37:35]: Uh it it is. It says that uh the police advisory council shall be open to the public on the revised policy. [2:37:41, 2:37:48]: In in in retrospect and thinking through, I don't think you were copied on the uh amended policy. I'll make sure that you get a copy of that, Madam Clerk. [2:37:48, 2:37:49]: Right. [2:37:50, 2:37:51]: Any other questions for discussion? [2:37:52, 2:37:54]: Motion's been made, then seconded. All in favor, please indicate. [2:37:55, 2:38:04]: Well, Mayor Ford, I'm sorry. Can I ask that in the motion for this that it references this revised [2:38:05, 2:38:05]: Copy. [2:38:06, 2:38:08]: Or the amended policy? [2:38:08, 2:38:14]: As I suppose, it's up to Mr. Blount. He made the motion. [2:38:15, 2:38:18]: W whatever corrections, this is the policy. [2:38:19, 2:38:27]: It's not about amended or this and that. We're getting specific. That's the policy. What we got and what we received and what's being presented is the policy. [2:38:27, 2:38:30]: Okay. Motions are made and seconded. Any further discussion? [2:38:31, 2:38:33]: Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [2:38:33, 2:38:40]: I am willing to vote if the motion includes this revised policy. If not, I will abstain. [2:38:41, 2:38:43]: That's your objective. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:38:45, 2:38:46]: Three opposed. [2:38:46, 2:38:47]: Okay. [2:38:48, 2:38:51]: You oppose. So three zero I abstain. Three zero one. It passes. [2:38:52, 2:38:53]: Thank you. [2:38:57, 2:39:04]: All right, uh uh facility use policy, Mare Pro Tem. Thomas, please. Yes. Um [2:39:06, 2:39:15]: Mayor Ford, um I won't I I move for a motion for council consideration. [2:39:15, 2:39:20]: to amend the facilities use policy section two. [2:39:21, 2:39:24]: Ту ремов висун. [2:39:25, 2:39:26]: Community center. [2:39:28, 2:39:30]: Uh Madam Clerk, am I reading too fast? No. [2:39:32, 2:39:33]: Okay, I'm I'm gonna start off if I may. [2:39:34, 2:39:36]: The motion for council consideration [2:39:36, 2:39:39]: to amend the facilities use [2:39:39, 2:39:41]: Полісі секціон Ту. [2:39:42, 2:39:43]: Ту ремов [2:39:44, 2:39:46]: The use of the Ted Strickland Community Center. [2:39:47, 2:39:48]: And to add [2:39:49, 2:39:52]: The use of the Merle Manders Conference Center. [2:39:53, 2:39:58]: with a partnership organization once each year. [2:39:59, 2:40:13]: Expenses incurred shall be the responsibility of the elected officials initiative fund and pondering organization. [2:40:15, 2:40:16]: Okay. [2:40:16, 2:40:17]: Sick. [2:40:17, 2:40:20]: Okay, Mayor Pro Tem second this any further discussion. [2:40:22, 2:40:42]: Come, just I'd have something. The current policy mentions um twice. Once during a um a weekend, Friday or Saturday, or during the course of the week, Monday and Thursday. But you on your say Merrill Manor, so you you're you said one time, so we partner. The the the the the key word here is is partnering. Okay. Now [2:40:42, 2:40:48]: the um existing policy this is just an amendment so whatever [2:40:49, 2:40:51]: Um in the original [2:40:51, 2:41:04]: That's their stance. Okay. But this is an amendment and the word partnering is is only is the difference. Okay, sir. Gotcha. Appreciate it. Okay. Good deal. Any further discussion? All in favor of the motion, amendment, please indicate. [2:41:05, 2:41:06]: Um on fabric. [2:41:06, 2:41:12]: Okay, fantastic passes unanimously. Thank you very much. Fantastic. Okay, let's move on to um [2:41:13, 2:41:15]: Announcements and meeting events. Um [2:41:16, 2:41:21]: Council meetings will be held at the council uh city council chamber, meeting dates, location times are subject to change. [2:41:22, 2:41:25]: So citizens please visit the the website. So he's websited [2:41:26, 2:41:30]: at www dot city of starbridge dot com [2:41:30, 2:41:50]: For any type of meeting information on our Facebook page or contact city hall offices at 770-389-7900 for any updates. The Main Street Advisory Board is the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, 11 November. Downtown Development Authority meeting at 6 p.m. via Bay of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month. [2:41:50, 2:42:10]: Month by way of Zoom 15 uh November. U Council Advisory Committee meeting at 6 30 p.m. third Thursday of each month in Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, November 15th. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, November 29th. Planning Commission meeting fourth Thursday at 6:30. [2:42:10, 2:42:13]: uh city hall, council chambers. [2:42:14, 2:42:21]: Uh and as needed, it says here. City Council meeting second Tuesday of each month, City Hall Council Chambers, November 14th. [2:42:22, 2:42:42]: And the U Council meetings, 6 30, second Monday of each month, City Levi, City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, and that's November 14th. And of course, upcoming city events and initiatives, a continued salute to veterans. Please forward pictures of veterans, including name, branch, rank, and years of service as Member Pro Tem Thomas presents a special tribute to [2:42:42, 2:43:02]: local veterans pictures should be submitted to roslyn Rawls at R. Rawls at the city of Startbridge dash G A dot G O V. And of course thank you for your service. Please join Councilwoman Barber for a free Zuma on every Saturday morning at Clark Park at 8 a.m. Come out for fitness in the park. You see Stockbridge will host [2:43:02, 2:43:10]: So in-person annexation meeting and town hall meeting that is Tuesday, November first, six okay, six thirty. [2:43:11, 2:43:31]: P.M. which has a virtual town hall on November first. Six thirty uh six thirty PM Please visit the website or Facebook page uh to log in information. And Saturday, November fifth, is in person at six thirty PM in Bridge City Church, thirty-nine ten North Henry Boulevard. Come out and learn the facts about annexation, referendum. [2:43:31, 2:43:51]: uh neighborhoods or in the proposed area benefits of the Stockbridge annexation and proposed council districts. Please join Councilman Alexander for a Town Hall, Stockbridge Amphitheater Thursday, October 27, 7 p.m. to discuss economic development, business opportunities, and public safety, free event. Join Councilwoman Gantt for her [2:43:51, 2:44:11]: annual fall festival taking place Saturday October 29th from noon to 4 p.m. at Clark Park. And join me and and the Southern Crescent V Women in Business for a partnership event, funding aspect, funding pitch for new entrepreneurs, dealing with women entrepreneurs there. And that's actually Wednesday, tomorrow night. [2:44:11, 2:44:13]: [9854.2, 9859.2]: Upcoming concerts. Uh Key Sweat of course this Saturday, October twenty ninth. I believe it is sold out. [2:44:20, 2:44:20]: Yeah. [2:44:21, 2:44:29]: Rick Springfield and Tommy T Tutone. Not so though. It's not so? Okay. It will be by Friday. We hope by Saturday. [2:44:29, 2:44:32]: Rick Springfield and Tommy Tutone is Sunday, October 30th. [2:44:33, 2:44:43]: And a matter of fact I believe October Rick Springfield's a six o'clock. Key Swiss starts on Saturday at eight o'clock. Once again, congratulations to Henry County Chamber for being named the Chamber of the Year. [2:44:44, 2:44:45]: And for additional [2:44:46, 2:44:48]: My additional comments, of course, we're still in [2:44:48, 2:44:54]: Believe it or not, we're still in a pandemic and and so we st uh the virus is still out here. [2:44:54, 2:44:58]: And as usual, the Henry County Health Department located in in um [2:44:59, 2:45:19]: on Henry County Parkway, uh well you can get your uh shots, any type of vaccination shots and uh and booster shots um for Miderma and um and geez, I forgot the other one. Minderma and uh what is it? Pfizer Pfizer, there you go. Thank you very much. Nine air [2:45:19, 2:45:39]: to uh 130, excuse me, 9 a.m. to 1130 a.m. p.m. 9 a.m. to eleven thirty a.m. or 1 p.m. to 2 30 p.m. and call 470-664-0005. And of course, uh any testing could be done at Red Hawk Field, once again on Henry Carter Henry County Parkway. [2:45:39, 2:45:59]: And Monday, Wednesday, and Friday from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. And the CDC recommends, of course, getting your second booster if you haven't had it. And I believe there's some for some individuals you could possibly get even a third booster at this time. What's also important since we're in the fall season is a flu shot. So if you get need to get a flu shot, ladies and gentlemen. [2:45:59, 2:46:04]: gentlemen and uh ca the the flu will be out is out here as well. [2:46:04, 2:46:05]: Um [2:46:06, 2:46:14]: Early voting has started and voting is your constitutional right and I would hope that uh that you all would take uh [2:46:15, 2:46:33]: take time to uh utilize your constitutional right and vote for of course the election is November eighth. Um but uh for uh here in the city of Stockbridge you can early vote at Merrill Manor's conference center which is 111 Davis Road October twenty fourth through the twenty eighth seven AM to seven PM [2:46:34, 2:46:39]: October twenty ninth, uh nine A. M. to five PM. [2:46:39, 2:46:49]: October thirtieth, one PM to five PM, October thirty first to four November fourth, it is seven AM to seven PM. Those same hours apply [2:46:50, 2:47:10]: to JP Mosley Park. Well back up a second. JP Mosley Park is 1041 Miller's Mill Road in Stockbridge, right? And that uh that is open actually you can early vote there October 31st to November 4th, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. And you can also uh vote early at Fairview Recreational Center 33. [2:47:10, 2:47:30]: Austin Road in Stockbridge, Georgia, right? October 31st to 4 November, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. The previous hours I mentioned that it coincide with Merrill Manors. You can also utilize those same hours at the Hampton Library, 61 McDonough Street in Hampton, and Local Scrooge Library, 111 Martin Luther. [2:47:29, 2:47:49]: King Jr. Boulevard and Locus Grove as well. And of course at the election voter registration main office in 40 Atlanta Street, McDonough. You're gonna really vote there as well if you need to do that. It's very very important to do that. Matter of fact, obviously, as you probably will know, and listen to the news that um we have set records thus far in early voting so far. [2:47:49, 2:48:09]: Folks are serious about this, which they need to be at all times. So it's great that it's happening. Uh Halloween or fall festivals are right around the corner. So be safe out there with your kids and grandkids and uh participate uh the best you can. If you got any problems, call stop readers finance to help you out if you have any problems in your neighborhood in that aspect and uh [2:48:09, 2:48:25]: uh they'll come and they'll be s they'll I'll be serving them they'll those police obviously be out that night anyway. They're always out. Anyway. So on that note, that is all that I have. Um oh it's one other thing. November ninth, just information. November ninth, the day after the election, believe it or not. [2:48:25, 2:48:43]: I'll be hosting the I-75 Central Corridor Coalition meeting here in Stockbridge from ten A.M. to eleven thirty. Uh so uh the they're finally gonna make the rounds here. So that'll be a good meeting and a half or an hour and a half and all those individuals as well. On that note, Council, I need a uh motion to go to executive session. [2:48:44, 2:48:49]: Uh so move for Mr. Blount. Is there a second? A second. [2:48:49, 2:48:55]: Uh oh yeah, thank you very much, sir. You're right. Legal litigation. [2:48:55, 2:49:02]: Legal real estate and uh personnel actions. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Ms. Barber, you second that. All in favor, please indicate. [2:49:04, 2:49:10]: Okay, okay. Okay, everybody, things again. Great. And ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back after this exercise after executive session. Thank you. [2:49:17, 2:49:18]: [10160.0, 10161.4]: Next. [2:49:25, 2:49:25]: Yeah. [2:50:01, 2:50:02]: [10203.4, 10204.8]: Is she back there or what? No. [2:50:07, 2:50:08]: Does she know that we're back out here? [2:50:09, 2:50:10]: Oh just that's okay. [2:50:12, 2:50:25]: Okay, good deal. All right. On that on that note, uh Council I need a motion to end a exact session, please. So move. Sir a second? A second. I got Mayor Pro Tem. I got Mayor Councilman Nazan and Mayor Pro Tem. All favor, please indicate. [2:50:26, 2:50:30]: Okay, now I need a motion to reconvene our work session, please. So move. Okay. [2:50:31, 2:50:32]: Yeah. [2:50:32, 2:50:37]: Is that you, Maryport Tem? Okay. Councilman Alzheimer's Mary Port Tem on Fair, please indicate. [2:50:37, 2:50:49]: Now I need a motion to end our uh uh special call our call meeting, our work session. So Mr Brunt, I mean Mayor Po Temper. Uh Mr Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. God bless you all. Let's go. [2:50:50, 2:50:50]: All right.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2022-10-18 source: 2022-10-18_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:04, 0:00:24]: Uh hello everyone. This is Roger Custon and this is the October 18th Downtown Development Authority of the City of Stockbridge monthly regular meeting. And we are opening the meeting and waiting for one or two of our board members to join. So we'll start with some uh general updates. [0:00:24, 0:00:33]: Um the um we did get a formal withdrawal from our general counsel, uh Dan McRae, that he will be [0:00:34, 0:00:35]: Um [0:00:35, 0:00:43]: That he will be uh, you know, that he's resigning as or withdrawing as our general counsel, and he's advised us to get another general uh counsel. [0:00:44, 0:00:45]: Um [0:00:46, 0:01:01]: The I did send some information on a mural uh workshop. So this is uh uh an an interesting like uh sort of uh uh intensive art uh program put on by the city of Thomasville where they are um inviting [0:01:02, 0:01:22]: 10 different uh cities, I believe from uh Georgia, to participate in this intensive workshop to uh learn how to use art as a place-making um method for uh cities. And uh cities would have to apply to join. They do uh many. [0:01:22, 0:01:42]: Minimum stipe into$500 to help cover some of the expenses, although that wouldn't cover all the expenses. I think it's um might be a good opportunity for the city of Stockbridge. I think it might line up well with some of the things that we're looking at in terms of the Cultural Arts Center as well as the MLK Senior Memorial. [0:01:42, 0:01:42]: Real. [0:01:43, 0:02:00]: The reason I bring it up in uh uh to this uh group is that it may have uh uh uh you know potential cost impact if the city wants to uh participate either via Main Street or the DDA or through the city directly, then um [0:02:01, 0:02:21]: You know,$500 is not going to cover the cost of three people to travel to Thomasville for three days. So there would probably be uh we need to supplement that with additional funding. And you know, it might be a point of consideration for the DDA or whichever entity is going to sponsor this uh at a [0:02:21, 0:02:29]: At future time, but I wanted to make sure you are aware of it, that that's a potential opportunity for the city of Stockbridge. [0:02:29, 0:02:32]: Any uh points or questions on that so far? [0:02:32, 0:02:37]: Let me let me reply to uh uh Barber one. [0:02:59, 0:03:08]: All right. Um, let's see. Uh Barber will bring up the uh financial worksheet. Um actually that what would involve a decision. [0:03:10, 0:03:20]: Um go ahead and no, I'll wait for Barber for that. So um let me uh turn it over to Secretary's update. Uh Bob, do you have anything you want to share with the group? [0:03:21, 0:03:22]: Uh not at this time, no. [0:03:23, 0:03:24]: All right. Um [0:03:25, 0:03:45]: Kira and as far as the Main Street advisory updates, Kira did say she had a conflict. Tonight is also the third meeting for the Parks City of the Stockbridge Parks Master Plan Group, which I participated in as well. [0:03:45, 0:04:05]: Had their third meeting uh this evening, which is why she was unabanded for uh any updates. And let's see what here. Facade grant update. We're pretty much uh closed with that. The only thing that we're uh pending on right now is the logo development. Um, we did get the finalized logo from Ryman Reason. [0:04:04, 0:04:21]: We just need to pay our final invoice and then we'll get the complete package and then we can start utilizing that in our marketing material. So that's about ready to go. I had one question on the invoice, and once we clarify that question, we'll go ahead and pay that and take care of that. [0:04:21, 0:04:41]: So uh following what would be our agenda, then that would bring us to uh Okay, I have a question. Of course. Okay, actually I had uh Miss McGriggs reach uh out to me, Latonya McGriggs. Actually I had G ask her to contact you. Uh she bought the barbershop on [0:04:41, 0:05:01]: On highway 138, uh across the street. Mm-hmm. Uh right there, you know, there's the title pond place or right there. It's right next to it. So she just bought that. And uh she had inquired about the facade grant. I don't know, and I had asked her to reach out. [0:05:01, 0:05:20]: out to you. I'm not sure if she did or not. She did not. But if you give me her information um between Bob and I, we'll be glad to make sure we contact with her and give her the information. There's information on our website. We didn't update that about six months ago. So it has the current information, but I'll be glad to talk to her. [0:05:21, 0:05:41]: Sure. I just thought it would be good for you to have a chat with her and just kind of talk to her about as a downtown business owner. She just bought the business there. So um you'll see uh you notice that the barbershop is not there anymore. So she plans on having some plans for it. She says she's still trying to decide exactly what she's gonna do with it. So [0:05:41, 0:05:43]: there's a lot a lot of activity. [0:05:44, 0:06:04]: Uh in downtown. Well, I I got the name Barber. What's the last name, Councillor? My name is uh Latanya. Oh, excuse me. A mcgriggs. McGriggs. M C G R I G G S. All right. Well, if you have contact information from Ms. McGriggs. [0:06:04, 0:06:07]: Greg's, I'll be glad to reach out to. Yeah, I'll text it over to you. [0:06:07, 0:06:08]: Very good. [0:06:11, 0:06:22]: All right. And uh let's see if there's anything else as far as updates. Um councilman, I think then uh that would bring us to uh your updates on the agenda if you'd like to share. [0:06:24, 0:06:27]: Well, uh just here one update. [0:06:28, 0:06:32]: That we had another purchase in downtown, which is the standalone building. [0:06:32, 0:06:34]: Yeah, like I say, there is the um [0:06:35, 0:06:55]: The loan of the title fund business there. And then right next to it, the barbershop, uh, Miss McGriggs purchased that property. Uh, she's the owner of it. She's uh said that she was uh going to decide and we should she should know exactly what she's gonna do uh with the building. Um possible uh there's a myriad of possibility. [0:06:55, 0:07:02]: possible usage, all the th all the things that we desire in downtown are on that list. So [0:07:02, 0:07:05]: We'll have to see where where where that goes to. [0:07:05, 0:07:15]: But uh, you know, the city is moving forward. A lot of things are happening. A big thing is happening right now is uh the annexation vote is going on. [0:07:15, 0:07:17]: Uh to close the holes in the city. [0:07:18, 0:07:19]: And uh [0:07:19, 0:07:28]: should the annexation pass, then uh the city will be more whole, especially those areas just south of City Hall near Banks Road. [0:07:28, 0:07:31]: and flip and roll that are no longer in [0:07:31, 0:07:44]: uh the city limits. Uh the one the one business that you will notice a lot of commercial as well. Like right now the holiday in uh on one highway 138 is not in the city limits. [0:07:45, 0:07:47]: Because it's on this seventy five, right. [0:07:47, 0:07:59]: Right. So if this annexation passes, the holiday end would come into the city limits and all that little pocket right there where the Waffle House is, the auto dealership. [0:07:59, 0:08:00]: Uh all of that. [0:08:01, 0:08:02]: Uh Cause [0:08:02, 0:08:05]: And then that apartment complex, which is behind [0:08:05, 0:08:08]: Uh the Kroger on highway one thirty eight. [0:08:09, 0:08:10]: That would come into the city. [0:08:11, 0:08:14]: Uh in everything out to the Clayton County line. [0:08:14, 0:08:16]: Spear Road, all of that. [0:08:16, 0:08:18]: Well, we're coming to the city. [0:08:18, 0:08:19]: That's very exciting. [0:08:20, 0:08:23]: Uh it was uh we had another exciting concert. [0:08:23, 0:08:26]: Downtown the Charlie Wilson concert was sold out. [0:08:26, 0:08:29]: It was standing room only. It was an amazing [0:08:30, 0:08:32]: uh performance there. We had a lot of [0:08:32, 0:08:35]: Influential individuals who were there. [0:08:35, 0:08:48]: Uh that we made contact with uh the GDOT representative Dana Lemon was there. Uh so always good to have Dana in the house to as you know GDOT controls the funding for what we do and uh [0:08:49, 0:08:51]: Certainly that was a good opportunity. [0:08:51, 0:08:54]: Uh Bernice King actually came down. [0:08:54, 0:08:56]: It was great that Bernice King [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: was here. She got to enjoy it. [0:08:58, 0:09:01]: Uh Isaac Ferris came down, so we had [0:09:01, 0:09:20]: uh significant we had uh members of the king family uh that were there they enjoyed the concert thoroughly uh the entertainment that we had and we treated them uh rolled out the red carpet for them they really really really enjoyed the visit we certainly had conversation with them [0:09:20, 0:09:21]: About [0:09:21, 0:09:40]: uh being involved or getting involved with the Cultural Arts Center and the legacy of Daddy King uh in the city. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas invited them. They were his uh part of the uh we worked jointly uh with him and the DDA to actually uh host them. [0:09:40, 0:09:41]: Uh, they were at our table. [0:09:42, 0:09:43]: And we were able to uh [0:09:43, 0:09:45]: Have great conversation with them. [0:09:45, 0:09:49]: What imagine how amazing that would be if the King family actually [0:09:50, 0:09:54]: decided to join us in in the everything that we're trying to do. [0:09:54, 0:09:56]: Uh, to honor Daddy King. [0:09:56, 0:10:00]: Uh it would be absolutely amazing if we were able to do that. [0:10:00, 0:10:02]: uh in a significant way. [0:10:02, 0:10:03]: Um [0:10:04, 0:10:05]: You know, we've had some [0:10:06, 0:10:08]: You know, things take place at uh [0:10:08, 0:10:11]: At various city council meetings where we've [0:10:11, 0:10:16]: move forward with some initiatives that needed to be done, that needed to be tightened up. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Um [0:10:17, 0:10:20]: With new development uh coming into the city. [0:10:20, 0:10:35]: We talked about uh we talked about the highway one thirty-eight developments at Spivey Road, uh on both sides of that development. So that should be uh coming into the city should be very um interesting in terms of [0:10:35, 0:10:37]: Uh the flower shop downtown. [0:10:38, 0:10:58]: Uh we should be seeing some significant. I understand a contract has been signed actually on the uh flower shop at 118 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage. And we should be seeing something, uh a restaurant come uh to that location in uh the provider. [0:10:57, 0:11:16]: provider for that rest the the I've understand that it'll be a very nice restaurant. The fire station development is moving forward at this point. The city has all of our stuff out of the fire station and the architect has begun begun uh creating renderings [0:11:16, 0:11:17]: For the developer. [0:11:18, 0:11:38]: And I understand that uh the desire for that location is a restaurant uh as well, which uh the initial plans call for. Uh it'll be it'll be two levels with the main level uh you know space and then an actual rooftop type restaurant. [0:11:38, 0:11:50]: restaurant uh on the second level. The initial rendering that we had seen several years ago with three or four stories, that's not the desired uh outcome, not not the desired uh [0:11:50, 0:12:00]: uh intent at this point. Subject, those things are these things are tentative that could change, but the initial approach is two stories with a rooftop. [0:12:00, 0:12:02]: uh on in a restaurant [0:12:02, 0:12:04]: uh at that particular location. [0:12:05, 0:12:05]: So [0:12:06, 0:12:07]: Uh that's where we are. [0:12:07, 0:12:08]: Uh at this point. [0:12:09, 0:12:20]: If there's any questions or anybody want to update on any additional items, uh the police department facility, uh the renovations have gone extremely well. Uh they're waiting on [0:12:21, 0:12:41]: At this point, for the front windows to be brought in, and then there will be a clear glass door replacing it. Or you know, if you've ever been to the precinct before, there was a solid uh type door there where there was no interior to where you could not view inside. They want it to be open, transparent. [0:12:40, 0:13:00]: So even on the outside, you can see what's going on in the building. There'll be a double door entry, and all of that will be redone. It's going to be beautiful. The total investment on the city's part will be$3.9 million reinvestment in debt. And I don't know if you might have seen we're getting [0:13:00, 0:13:10]: Well the city did um move forward with uh approval of additional work to be done on the master trail plan. [0:13:11, 0:13:21]: and on improvements to North and South Lee Street that will be inclusive of connected trails exiting the amphitheater on both sides of the road. [0:13:22, 0:13:42]: Toward Lee, toward North Lee Street. Uh that would be inclusive of uh a multi-use pass extending all the way down to Bryant Street from North Henry Boulevard, uh, with lighting to be included in both of those packages. Uh that would be inclusive of [0:13:42, 0:14:02]: Of a multi-youth path on South Lee Street, leading down South Lee Street next to what used to be Municipal Park. And then you looked at it, if you saw it, they had the Bobcat out there actually doing a little work now, trying to get things rekindled. [0:14:01, 0:14:08]: uh on that side to move things forward. Apparently we have all the easements in place. We were [0:14:08, 0:14:11]: Still waiting on Georgia Power for to do. [0:14:11, 0:14:31]: uh some utility and lighting rule relocation. One of the things that I found that was very peculiar that I asked for a second look at and we've decided to do it. If you're exiting the amphitheater toward uh North Lee Street, for some reason they put the light poles in the middle of the [0:14:31, 0:14:32]: Uh well. [0:14:32, 0:14:35]: Which made absolutely no sense. [0:14:35, 0:14:38]: Of you're riding a bike on this ten foot path. [0:14:38, 0:14:41]: And the s and the light post is right in the middle of [0:14:42, 0:15:02]: The sidewalk is be very dangerous. So they're going to uh move those light posts to the rear of the sidewalk so the 10-foot path will be usable. And then on the other side of that of there, where the retention pond was, there was no sidewalk. [0:15:01, 0:15:12]: Will be a sidewalk on both sides. So you will literally be able to walk through there, and all of these sidewalks will be connected from North Lee Street. [0:15:13, 0:15:16]: All the way to South Lee Street down to Bryant Street. [0:15:17, 0:15:18]: With lighting. [0:15:18, 0:15:19]: Also [0:15:20, 0:15:38]: uh what we decided to do was to spend a little a little bit of extra money to make sure it was looked right. If you if you know what it looks like when you go to Cumberland and the galleria area and you drive down Carl Parkway near the Cobb Energy Center where you have the black metal poles. [0:15:38, 0:15:45]: uh in type of uh lighting where type of for the signals for the uh turn signal. [0:15:45, 0:15:49]: And for the light for the uh for the turn signal and for the um [0:15:50, 0:15:51]: For the light. [0:15:51, 0:15:54]: We have ordered those to go. [0:15:54, 0:16:14]: At North Henry Boulevard and the new Lee Street. It will have those on there. The lighting will be replaced. And also the crosswalks will be uh the red stamped pavers. So the crosswalks will be highlighted with stamped pavers connecting uh all four. [0:16:14, 0:16:26]: side so it will be sharp and then you will have lighting you will have lighting on top there as well so that whole area will be lit up from North Lee Street to South Lee Street. [0:16:26, 0:16:32]: East Atlanta Road will be done exactly the same way. Those existing light poles that are silver. [0:16:32, 0:16:44]: will disappear. The black metal poles will be installed and then the stamp paper crosswalks uh will be installed. Ten foot paths will be uh or on both sides. [0:16:44, 0:17:04]: And then there will be an actual reader board installed where the near where the fountain is. So when you drive by and we want to announce a concert or anything going on at City Hall, there will be an actual reader board for you to read, a digital board that we can customize with different. [0:17:04, 0:17:20]: different messages that we want to send out to the community. So it's very exciting that that work, that's phase, what I just described to you was phase two. We expect phase one to be getting underway with Easter to resuming along East Atlanta Road. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: To finish that project. [0:17:22, 0:17:24]: Uh before um [0:17:24, 0:17:44]: During before the uh spring concert series comes up, because it's a lot of intensive work. New lighting will be added along uh East Atlanta Road. I know we had some folks saying it was dark out there during the concert or during the bridge fest. Yes, because many of the lights have been uh disconnected because of the construction, but there will be [0:17:44, 0:17:48]: be new light, new LED lighting out there along East Atlanta. [0:17:48, 0:17:50]: And North and South Lee Street. [0:17:50, 0:17:54]: That will brighten it up and again with the ten foot sidewalks. [0:17:54, 0:17:57]: Uh to be attached. And the most exciting thing is [0:17:58, 0:18:01]: There will be a turn lane edit. [0:18:01, 0:18:05]: Um on the uh East Atlanta road. [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: Uh, between Love Street [0:18:07, 0:18:27]: And uh North Henry Boulevard, because right now when you approach City Hall on East Atlanta, there's only two lanes. So if you wanted to turn right, you can't do that. You got to wait in line, but a part of this discussion will add a full turn lane and it will extend the road all the way down to where the road railroad tracks is. [0:18:27, 0:18:41]: So if you're coming across the railroad tracks from Love Street from downtown, you would take a right and you wouldn't have to get wait on that traffic at all. That dedicated lane would take you the all the way to North Henry Boulevard. [0:18:45, 0:19:05]: Thank you, Councilman. It's a lot of exciting moves. A lot going on. Yes, there is. Yeah. Um going back to the um Charlie Wilson uh concert was uh what was your take on the King family's um uh response to the um the MLK senior [0:19:05, 0:19:11]: uh art project. Did they were they did they seem favorable with that? That that would um well what what's your take on that? [0:19:12, 0:19:19]: Let me just say that Mayor Pro Tem has an outstanding relationship with them and it was a win to have them. [0:19:20, 0:19:27]: uh be in stock bridge and for that discussion to take place, I think we should be seeing something uh develop out of that. Yes. [0:19:28, 0:19:29]: Very good. Thank you for that. [0:19:30, 0:19:31]: Oh great. [0:19:33, 0:19:40]: Uh you get you know, you you you you you see uh famous people and you get to interact with them. [0:19:40, 0:19:44]: They were just they were there, they enjoyed themselves. [0:19:44, 0:19:48]: They were so thankful for that invitation. [0:19:48, 0:19:51]: And they had they just could not say. [0:19:51, 0:20:11]: What a great time they had. They said that over and over again. We will be back. When when can y'all invite us back? So it was an amazing time. You guys gotta join us, man. You you you gotta understand what you are producing, you're selling to be in that environment, just being there, whether you stay for the whole [0:20:11, 0:20:22]: whole concert or not, but just coming in seeing 3,000, 3,200 people in the facility, everybody having a great time and nothing but positivity. [0:20:24, 0:20:24]: Yeah. [0:20:26, 0:20:30]: Thank you, Councilman. Any other questions or comments for councilman? [0:20:33, 0:20:40]: All right, Barber, good evening. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Any any any update on the I'm sorry, any any update on the railroad, the the quiet zone? [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: Yeah. [0:20:42, 0:20:47]: There's no significant update apparently, you know, we're we're stalled in terms of [0:20:47, 0:21:07]: Uh they changed personnel at uh Norfolk Southern. Uh the city's done all our part. The council voted and it's been approved. So the next step is up to them. And you know, when you're on the railroad timetable, you're on the railroad timetable and and ask the city of McDonough how they have a train stopped on the tracks. [0:21:07, 0:21:10]: Every single day for two hours. [0:21:10, 0:21:12]: And they don't have any bridges. [0:21:13, 0:21:31]: And ask them how it is to deal with the railroad. Literally, you have the city shut down on one side where the train extends across the tracks and no one can move for an hour or two with imagine if that happened to downtown. Imagine what they would do to your business if the train blocked downtown every day for you. [0:21:32, 0:21:33]: Wow. [0:21:34, 0:21:37]: Well, like like you said, it's it's in the railroad's hands. [0:21:38, 0:21:48]: Right. As soon as any anything develops on that, I'll certainly make sure that uh I pass it along. But right now it's it's in their hands and there's nothing we can do until they make a decision. [0:21:49, 0:22:00]: I'm when to proceed. They've even given us the money. They gave us fifty thousand dollars to actually close down that intersection. So they paid us. So it's really up to them what to do next. Yeah. [0:22:04, 0:22:06]: All right. Any other questions for councilman? [0:22:10, 0:22:16]: I wanna make sure Barber tuned in in enough time to see if he had the updates. How you doing, Barber? [0:22:16, 0:22:25]: Um I'm here. I'm hanging in there. Thanks for asking. We did. We've had a no sometimes you need to hear some news. We had one an additional building that was purchased. [0:22:25, 0:22:34]: Downtown on North Henry Boulevard, right there at Tide Street, you have the Georgia Title Pond business. Right next to it, there was a barber shop. [0:22:34, 0:22:53]: That barbershop has been purchased by Latanya McGriggs and she's intentional of bringing us the type of businesses that we want. And uh we shouldn't know within the next few weeks what the desired end is, but her list includes the the two the couple of items that we are looking for downtown significantly. [0:22:53, 0:22:57]: Oh nice. Was that a building owned by the city or did was it a private cell? [0:22:57, 0:23:00]: It was a private sale. Oh nice. Okay. [0:23:01, 0:23:01]: Awesome. [0:23:03, 0:23:19]: All right, so um now that we have a quorum, thank you for joining Barber. Uh we're gonna uh I guess go ahead and take uh roll call, uh Bob, and we'll I guess we'll formally open the meeting so that we can uh vote on the agenda on some other items. [0:23:19, 0:23:22]: Okay. Uh Councilman Alexander. [0:23:24, 0:23:27]: Present. Sorry, I was on the present. [0:23:27, 0:23:30]: Roger Custon. I'm present. Thank you. [0:23:31, 0:23:32]: Maxwell Sears. [0:23:34, 0:23:35]: Barber Richardson. [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: Present. [0:23:37, 0:23:38]: Fran Merritt. [0:23:40, 0:23:42]: Uh Bob Swigert, president. [0:23:44, 0:23:45]: All right. [0:23:46, 0:24:01]: Thank you, Bob. With four members present, that does constitute a quorum and we'll uh I I'm not sure as far as the order whether we mark the meeting as officially opened when we started around 10 after six or to the right now it's 637. Um [0:24:02, 0:24:08]: Um Roger, yes to be a uh official when you have a form. [0:24:08, 0:24:15]: All right, then we will mark it at a quorum at 6 37 p.m. Thank you for that. Um [0:24:16, 0:24:36]: Kira sends her regrets. Uh she has conflict tonight with the uh master plan for the parks and recreation. So first order on the agenda. Uh before we move into approving today, tonight's meeting agenda, I would like to um make a motion to correct an item. It was a copy paste error from the previous. [0:24:36, 0:24:51]: Today's agenda. Item two, guest speakers, was from the previous month. So I want to strike that item. It was to review the Georgia Tech Market Study. So uh other than that, I would um ask that we approve today's agenda. [0:24:51, 0:24:55]: as uh sent via email with uh without item number two. [0:24:56, 0:24:57]: Second. So [0:24:58, 0:24:59]: Thank you. [0:25:00, 0:25:02]: Uh all those in favor, please raise your hand. [0:25:03, 0:25:23]: All right, that's unanimous. Thank you. And we have two meeting minutes to approve. Um, we'll start with the um August 16th uh meeting minutes. We deferred that in our last meeting because it I was late in sending out the meeting minutes and we didn't have enough time to review it. [0:25:23, 0:25:29]: So I'd like to make a motion that we approve the August 16th meeting minutes. [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: Second. [0:25:32, 0:25:34]: Thank you. All those in favor? [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: All right. Barber, are you abstaining abstaining? I am. [0:25:40, 0:25:48]: All right. So we have three in favor, one abstain. I think you were absent at that meeting. All right, very good. [0:25:50, 0:26:02]: Then uh motion to approve the uh September 20th uh meeting minutes, which uh thank you, Vanessa, for uh preparing those. Appreciate the thorough work that you do for the DDA. [0:26:03, 0:26:04]: Second. [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: Thank you, Bob. [0:26:07, 0:26:20]: All right, any discussion? All those in favor, please uh raise your hand to approve the September 20th meeting minutes. Barber, you're also abstaining. Correct. All right, very good. So it's three in favor and one abstain. [0:26:20, 0:26:40]: All right, uh we'll move into the uh the the one thing I will mention about the Georgia Tech Market study is that the final report was prepared. Um Councilman Alexander had some minor feedback to uh highlight the um retail um retail and housing uh impact. They made that edit. [0:26:40, 0:26:47]: And they sent us the final report on Saturday, which I shared with you all. So that is done. [0:26:47, 0:26:50]: Um as far as uh [0:26:50, 0:27:10]: Uh Chairman's comments. The only other thing I want to mention is that we did receive the uh invoice from attorney McCrae, and this was a cumulative invoice for all the work that was done related to the um boundary dispute for the um [0:27:10, 0:27:22]: Purchase and sale of the station, the MLK, the Sylvain land deal, and then the subsequent clarification on the official DDA name. [0:27:23, 0:27:23]: Um [0:27:24, 0:27:44]: My understanding of the purchase and sale agreement, the intergovernmental agreement that was established for that purchase and sale is that the legal cost will be covered by the city. So, uh, but there are some items on that invoice that do pertain specifically to the DDA. So I'm gonna mark up the invoice. [0:27:44, 0:27:56]: to uh filter out the items that do belong to the DDA that we would cover. And councilman, I think we uh you know we will forward the remainder of that invoice over to the city for uh for payment. [0:27:57, 0:27:58]: Okay. [0:27:59, 0:28:02]: Um the [0:28:05, 0:28:13]: That's later on we will approve the uh meeting calendar. So um that leaves us to the treasurer's update. So Barber, um [0:28:14, 0:28:19]: Europe if you want me to present or would you want to present the uh expension? [0:28:19, 0:28:22]: I can present. Do I have uh capability? Yeah, I think so. [0:28:23, 0:28:25]: Let me know if you can see that. [0:28:26, 0:28:34]: It looks yep, we can. Okay, so I know we missed August, but um in the month of August, the only expense that we had was our monthly recurring Zoom. [0:28:34, 0:28:40]: Subscription, which is$40. Um, and then in the month of September, again, the recurring Zoom. [0:28:41, 0:28:45]: subscription as well as we had our uh [0:28:46, 0:28:51]: insurance renewed in the month of September at the cost of a thousand seven hundred and twenty-one dollars. [0:28:52, 0:29:03]: So total expenses for the month of September,$1,671, currently leaving us a net income for the year of$33,854. [0:29:04, 0:29:10]: um gonna go over to the balance sheet to talk about our cash our cash on hand as of September 30th. [0:29:10, 0:29:22]: Uh facade grant,$114,669.65. So far, the only expenses that has come out of that account was the reimbursement for the Fletcher, uh for Fletcher and Sons. [0:29:23, 0:29:35]: And then our operating accounts,$53,190.58 for a grand total of$167,860.23. [0:29:35, 0:29:45]: As far as these were the expenses, the change in cash from August to September was the 1,671. [0:29:45, 0:29:55]: That we discussed on the PL, uh insurance, and then the Zoom monthly subscription. We do have a couple of liabilities that's not reflected here. Excuse me, one is the cost of our logo. [0:29:56, 0:29:57]: Um [0:29:57, 0:30:16]: We will have to get that settled. I think that's like$2,700. And then whatever's going to be the remaining legal fees after Roger separates out uh the city's portion from the DDA portion. So we do have some liabilities coming up. And then I think I don't know if uh Councilman Alexander is gonna have any expenses uh for. [0:30:17, 0:30:24]: Entertainment, I guess, is what we're gonna call that. Um hospitality. Hospitality. I couldn't use the term, hospitality. [0:30:24, 0:30:31]: Yes, we will have some uh costs for that. We had uh supplied food at a couple of concerts. [0:30:31, 0:30:35]: Okay, so then there's some hospitality expenses coming up for that, but I'm pretty sure we have [0:30:36, 0:30:49]: a sufficient budget to cover all of that. The other thing that's not reflected but will be reflected in October, some known expenses is our finally got everything worked out with Renee at GDA. And so that check is in the mail. [0:30:49, 0:30:54]: um to cover all the members of the board and that was for an additional five hundred. [0:30:54, 0:31:00]: Now I guess I don't know how we bring this up to a vote or how this needs to work out, but [0:31:00, 0:31:15]: It's$500 because I initially paid for an individual membership, which was$200. Um, and so she took that$200 and took it off the tab, and the remaining balance was$500. So I guess at some. [0:31:16, 0:31:25]: point uh we can figure out how I can get reimbursed for my membership fee that's uh applied to the board's membership fee. [0:31:25, 0:31:28]: Let me know if you have any questions about that, but um. [0:31:29, 0:31:35]: So the total amount is seven hundred, not five hundred as far as the expense. All right. [0:31:35, 0:31:44]: Yeah. Um I well I think that wasn't clear when we voted on it before because I think we voted to approve the five hundred dollar uh membership. [0:31:45, 0:31:51]: Uh but you know go ahead and express that you know I think it's uh a good value. Is this an annual membership? [0:31:52, 0:31:55]: It is. It is. I don't think I can't remember. [0:31:57, 0:32:03]: Yeah, maybe that is what we I don't know. I don't remember if I knew the total cost at the time for whole board. [0:32:04, 0:32:05]: Um [0:32:05, 0:32:05]: But [0:32:06, 0:32:07]: Whatever y'all decide is fine. [0:32:09, 0:32:17]: Uh well I'm you know if you want to make a motion to go ahead and approve it as a seven hundred dollar expense, um I I certainly support that. [0:32:18, 0:32:19]: May I ask a question? [0:32:19, 0:32:20]: Yes. [0:32:20, 0:32:27]: With it being this late in the year, you're in the fourth quarter, are they gonna charge you that whole seven hundred and then turn around in January you owe that again? [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: No. [0:32:29, 0:32:33]: This is gonna cover us for the rest of this year and next year. Okay. Oh nice. Okay. [0:32:34, 0:32:34]: Some [0:32:34, 0:32:35]: Yay. [0:32:37, 0:32:42]: Good question, because I was concerned about that too, but she was like, no, she's got to go ahead and extend the membership uh for us. [0:32:42, 0:32:49]: So it's it's technically through tw uh December of twenty twenty three. Yes. As far as you understand it. [0:32:49, 0:32:49]: Yes. [0:32:51, 0:33:10]: Well, I guess two things. I think we would include um, you know, if if we feel that this is uh of value, then we, you know, would list that as a line item on our budget and then it wouldn't need to come up for you know a vote each year. Once we vote on the budget, then that expense becomes included. Um, but [0:33:11, 0:33:12]: Like I said, I [0:33:12, 0:33:16]: I'm in favor of supporting this. I've I I you know [0:33:16, 0:33:23]: I've attended many of their events and I know that's a valuable resource for uh our D DA. So I would certainly support the membership. [0:33:26, 0:33:26]: I agree. [0:33:27, 0:33:38]: Do let you wanna go ahead and do this as a as a vote. So we'll we'll oh okay. Is the motion to approve the seven hundred dollars or is the motion to approve the reimbursement? I want to make the right motion. [0:33:39, 0:33:47]: I would say both. So a total expense of seven hundred dollars, which is inclusive of a two hundred dollar reimbursement to you. [0:33:47, 0:33:51]: Okay, so make a motion that we approve the [0:33:51, 0:33:56]: Membership cost of$700, which includes a$200 reimbursement to [0:33:56, 0:33:57]: Barber Richardson. [0:33:58, 0:34:00]: I'll second that. Okay. [0:34:01, 0:34:02]: Second. [0:34:02, 0:34:04]: All right. Any discussion? [0:34:04, 0:34:05]: Questions? [0:34:06, 0:34:07]: I don't know, was it favoring? [0:34:08, 0:34:09]: Pretty small. [0:34:10, 0:34:10]: All right. [0:34:11, 0:34:12]: Thank you, Barber. Appreciate you bringing that up. [0:34:15, 0:34:23]: Uh and I think that concludes any questions about the balance sheet, the cash, the expenses, anticipated expenses, anything else? [0:34:24, 0:34:44]: No, the only comment I have, you've done an excellent job on the presentation, is is that uh during my report, you know, there's been some several significant things that we need to uh the the city just was awarded several significant grants, one for the police department uh$1.2 million, and then another [0:34:44, 0:34:47]: Another grant uh for mental health services for [0:34:47, 0:34:55]: uh one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars that's something we need to get and start having conversations with [0:34:55, 0:35:01]: uh the grant writer or for the city uh to see whether or not it w um [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: The things that we do as an entity might qualify for. [0:35:06, 0:35:09]: grants. I know there's a lot of money and green energy. [0:35:09, 0:35:13]: that type of thing. Um, you know, we're getting charges installed at the amphitheater. [0:35:14, 0:35:24]: uh for ev vehicles that may be something we might be able to incorporate in our area throughout the entire downtown area or there's a lot of [0:35:24, 0:35:30]: In the infrastructure bill that was just passed, there's billions of dollars available for [0:35:30, 0:35:34]: uh infrastructure programs, uh projects, uh EV. [0:35:34, 0:35:37]: Um charging stations, solar. [0:35:37, 0:35:40]: Even vehicles and stuff like that. So [0:35:40, 0:35:43]: We just need to make sure that we're tapping into. [0:35:43, 0:35:46]: additional resources while money is on the table for [0:35:47, 0:35:51]: uh for downtown too for our our uses yeah [0:35:51, 0:35:54]: Is the city grant writer available? [0:35:54, 0:35:55]: Four. [0:35:55, 0:36:15]: Well, that's something that we would need to talk to uh the city manager about to see uh you know what assistance we you know right now Ciara is serving as the staff liaison. So certainly staff members on a regular basis uh apply for grants. So certainly we would need to work through that channel and then talk to the city manager. [0:36:15, 0:36:30]: manager to see whether or not things that we have, whether what we need to do is to look to see what expenditures that we might have or things that we want to do in terms of projects that might qualify, because we just paid for that market study. [0:36:31, 0:36:51]: And I know, you know, the there's plenty of a grants also always available for doing studies and research and that kind of thing. So we need to make sure that we're being leaning forward to look for those types of funds that are available when they are. [0:36:51, 0:36:55]: we would have qualified for uh a for a grant. [0:36:55, 0:36:56]: Yeah, uh huh. [0:36:57, 0:36:57]: Okay. [0:37:00, 0:37:15]: Well, if it's if it's economic, the first thing that comes to mind is that we the you know, you might recall the market study was input for the master plan that we're engaging with TSW. And we we've we had already we'd long ago um [0:37:17, 0:37:23]: Um, you know, approve the proposal for the uh master plan from TSW. [0:37:23, 0:37:32]: Um, but it it's been so long, factors have changed, even the scope has changed to some degree. I think the DDA math has since changed. Um [0:37:32, 0:37:42]: that um they may very well come back and you know revise their proposal to finish out that plan. So [0:37:43, 0:37:51]: That just comes to mind as something that might um might fit uh depending on um the qualifications for the grant. [0:37:51, 0:37:59]: Absolutely. Any and all, you know I know the other grant is that the city got and I think Miss Holliday you can add in uh is that [0:38:00, 0:38:04]: We got a trails plan grant for downtown, right? [0:38:08, 0:38:09]: Can't I can't. [0:38:11, 0:38:13]: That's is that the one that Main Street applied for? [0:38:13, 0:38:17]: Right, it was a hundred it was a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. [0:38:17, 0:38:22]: uh grant for uh and that's the gent the gentleman had actually came to our last meeting [0:38:23, 0:38:35]: And then uh made a presentation on uh uh actually implementing it. And he told us uh pretty much uh he kind of laid out a timeline. I cannot think of his name. Um [0:38:36, 0:38:37]: I I can't either write off. [0:38:38, 0:38:38]: Yeah. [0:38:39, 0:38:45]: But just just know that uh though that there was a grant as that actually was acquired. [0:38:45, 0:38:46]: uh for connectivity. [0:38:46, 0:38:50]: uh in the downtown. So what they're gonna be doing is studying [0:38:50, 0:38:55]: how to connect our area uh moving forward with the master trail plan. [0:38:58, 0:39:03]: Extremely important. But yes, that was presented at the last council meeting. Yes. [0:39:08, 0:39:11]: All right. Uh Barber, anything else for the group? [0:39:11, 0:39:13]: Oh, I think that's it. Let me start sharing. [0:39:13, 0:39:16]: Any questions for Barber before we move on? [0:39:18, 0:39:38]: Okay, we'd we'd uh covered uh most of the other items on the agenda. So let me move to the I guess the next item we hadn't covered yet is uh new business. So let me uh and the the main item there is just simply or the only item there is to uh approve the 2023 calendar. Uh I shared this via email. [0:39:38, 0:39:41]: with uh everyone prior to the meeting, but we'd go. [0:39:42, 0:39:43]: Yeah. [0:39:43, 0:39:44]: Shit screen. [0:39:46, 0:39:47]: Yep, this is true. [0:39:49, 0:40:05]: All right. Let me know if you can see the screen. It's the 2023 meeting dates. Same pattern as we're following right now, which is the third Tuesday of each month at 6 PM. I did check this against, you know, normal holidays and so forth. [0:40:05, 0:40:17]: Um two things I'll point out that February 14th is Valentine's Day. And you know, just want to point that out. It's not necessarily a holiday, but it can be present a conflict for some individuals. [0:40:17, 0:40:37]: The other thing I'll mention is that uh, you know, never November 21st, because of the way the Tuesday falls, it's uh towards the end of the month, which can uh create a conflict for um, you know, Thanksgiving, those types of things. So um I'd like to um ask for a motion to go ahead and approve the 2023 meeting dates, or if there's [0:40:37, 0:40:40]: any discussion on editing any of these dates. [0:40:42, 0:41:00]: I I move that we approve the the 2023 meeting date. Oh I'm sorry. I was ahead council. I need to make on the 17th. That's actually my birthday. I don't think I'm gonna be in a meeting that day. So on January 17th. [0:41:00, 0:41:13]: uh on that day if you chose to move forward with that. But yeah, on that date I'm probably gonna be doing a little something that evening. It it it's January, correct? Seventeenth, yeah. All right, very good. Um [0:41:14, 0:41:34]: Well, uh we we we can do one of two things. We can edit it now or we can um um or we can approve it as is and then just adjust, you know, so long as I think we give adequate notice of a date change, you know, we we can't we get we just gotta post post public notice the the regular meeting. [0:41:34, 0:41:41]: meeting has changed and now be on such and such date if if we know that that might present a conflict or a risk of not meeting the forum. [0:41:41, 0:42:01]: Well, I'm gonna leave it up to you all because um like like I said, that data will not be available on that particular date. Now, if you wanted to uh go ahead and change it, you could go ahead and change it. But that's um the issue is if you wanted to have the meeting, would you have a quorum? If you could arrange for the quorum, you could go ahead with the meeting, you know. That's right. [0:42:02, 0:42:12]: Um and you know usually we're not running this tight, but uh you know we um that that is certainly a a point of consideration. Um [0:42:12, 0:42:19]: I I suggest we move ahead with the meeting calendar as is. We can always make the adjustment if we think that we're moving into um [0:42:19, 0:42:25]: uh you know risk of not meeting a warm. Um Barber, it looks like you wanted uh you know point one minute. [0:42:25, 0:42:28]: Uh is November twenty first. That's the week of Thanksgiving. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: November twenty first, let me take a quick look. [0:42:41, 0:42:42]: I don't [0:42:43, 0:42:46]: I don't know when it's last Thursday. Let me find out. When is it? [0:42:48, 0:42:55]: So it's the Tuesday before the Thursday Thanksgiving? Yeah. All right. So yes to answer your question. [0:42:57, 0:43:13]: The the moving the date though can sometimes conflict with either the city council meeting or the city council work session. So I'm a little hesitant to, you know, just pick another date now because without looking, without cross-referencing it with those other calendars. [0:43:13, 0:43:21]: Miss Holliday, do you have the city calendar where you can look and see? I mean, if the city's when is the city meeting? Uh November of twenty twenty three. [0:43:23, 0:43:28]: I prepare that today. So in November, the council will be meeting on November thirteenth. [0:43:29, 0:43:29]: Mm-hmm. [0:43:29, 0:43:32]: On that Monday and the work session will be [0:43:32, 0:43:35]: November twenty eighth, the last Tuesday of the month. [0:43:36, 0:43:53]: Well, certainly we could we could adjust the date and then um make it the fourteenth instead of so I mean, you know, folks gonna be on vacation and doing things for the holidays, you know, I don't that that's I I would be too close to Thanksgiving for me, you know. Instead of the fourteenth. [0:43:54, 0:43:55]: Yeah, I normally [0:43:56, 0:44:06]: I list it as the second Monday of the month and the last Tuesday and then I know except we're noted because there's certain, like you say, specific holidays where we do adjust the date. [0:44:07, 0:44:09]: And we also adjusted during um [0:44:09, 0:44:13]: GMA convention week. Those are the three that typically [0:44:14, 0:44:15]: are adjusted. [0:44:16, 0:44:21]: So on the on the like on the seventeenth, what date is the council meeting that week? [0:44:22, 0:44:24]: Uh you mean in January? [0:44:24, 0:44:37]: Yeah. The ninth. This the council meets on the second Monday, the DDA meets on the third Tuesday. Okay. All right. So since we're editing this, why don't we consider it the tenth the week prior? [0:44:39, 0:44:40]: So [0:44:41, 0:44:54]: How how's that? Now Bob, I know you made a motion for the earlier calendar dates, but we've made two revisions. Oh I can I can withdraw my motion. Yeah. I can withdraw my motion if that's uh [0:44:55, 0:45:00]: All right. So I think that are there any other uh potential conflicts anyone can see? [0:45:01, 0:45:08]: I don't know if it I I don't know if it I don't I don't know if anybody's got a hot date on Valentine's Day. [0:45:11, 0:45:24]: I don't know. I don't know. We want to be meeting well, let's check. You know, it's it's worth bringing it up. So Vanessa, if you wouldn't mind checking the calend the council calendars for February, please. The council is meeting on that Monday before on the third. [0:45:24, 0:45:27]: How is that the second? [0:45:27, 0:45:36]: Yeah. It is. It's the sixth and then the thirteenth is the second Monday. Okay, because this in February the council is meeting on the [0:45:36, 0:45:39]: Yeah, but in February, the third Tuesday is the twenty first. [0:45:40, 0:45:53]: Oh, how did I get to the 14th? That's minus a bit. That's actually the twenty four and the same is the case for March as well. It would be goodness gracious. Thank you all. I was looking at the one here and now I'm doubting my own. [0:45:53, 0:46:03]: January second. Okay, so let me look at this. So April the twenty first, the twenty the eighteenth. [0:46:05, 0:46:13]: May sixteenth, June twentieth, July eighteenth, fifteen. [0:46:14, 0:46:17]: September nineteenth, October. [0:46:18, 0:46:20]: Seventeen. Seventeen. [0:46:20, 0:46:21]: November [0:46:21, 0:46:29]: First, which we changed to the 14th. To the 14th and December 19th. [0:46:29, 0:46:33]: Yeah, everything else looks pretty good. So wait a minute, cause we have a conflict. [0:46:33, 0:46:41]: there on December nineteenth because I had to move the council meeting up to December nineteenth because of the holiday. [0:46:43, 0:46:44]: How about the twelfth then? [0:46:45, 0:46:52]: Okay, so the twelfth is the Tuesday following the city council Monday meeting. Yes. Okay. [0:46:55, 0:47:00]: All right. Well good. That was a good discussion. All right. So we've made [0:47:00, 0:47:06]: Two corrections and three revisions. This is the standing calendar here. [0:47:07, 0:47:09]: Um all right, any other discussion? [0:47:13, 0:47:20]: All right. I'd say we let's move ahead with uh approving it. So Bob, do you feel you wanna go ahead and make a motion to approve this calendar? [0:47:21, 0:47:25]: I I I move that we approve the the calendar as as uh amended. [0:47:26, 0:47:27]: All right, thank you. [0:47:27, 0:47:30]: Thank you, Barber. Any further discussion? [0:47:30, 0:47:31]: All those in favor? [0:47:33, 0:47:42]: All right, that's unanimous. Let me go ahead and save this and uh Vanessa I will send this to you. Okay, I'll get rid of that. [0:47:43, 0:47:44]: Stop the sugar. [0:47:45, 0:48:00]: All right. Let's notice. Uh now we're looking at the uh old business. Um I did mention the Georgia Tech market study, but that does now open up the uh next the planning process for the um [0:48:02, 0:48:15]: um the master plan for the city of Stockbridge with TSW. I have reached out to TSW and asked for a planning meeting for the next steps. And so I'll have a better update by their next meeting. [0:48:16, 0:48:25]: And TSW will be coordinating with the master parks plan too. We discussed that at our last meeting. So they will be engaged with the um [0:48:26, 0:48:31]: with the consultant. So they're working together on the connectivity as well. So everybody's working together. [0:48:32, 0:48:38]: Thank you for mentioning that. I and and this is sort of tying into the strategic planning session we had last June. [0:48:39, 0:48:40]: Um [0:48:40, 0:48:54]: The hot one of the high priorities that came out of that strategic planning session, it was like a first-year priority, was to establish a walking path between Clark Park and the amphitheater through Love Street. [0:48:54, 0:49:06]: And and you know, you've mentioned a couple of things, councilman, as far as you know, grant and uh, you know, I know we already had um you know uh master uh planned for um [0:49:06, 0:49:07]: uh trail plan. [0:49:08, 0:49:12]: Um, but in terms of like seeing it happen. [0:49:12, 0:49:22]: I mean the the trail plane's a you know, citywide trail plan, there's a lot to be done there, but as a priority, if we could focus on that first leg to get [0:49:22, 0:49:28]: Clark Park connected to the amphitheater. Do do you have any thoughts on that or any response to that? [0:49:30, 0:49:48]: Well, certainly downtown's gonna be a priority. Uh what we're gonna do is we're gonna take the results from when T when the Master Parks plan comes back along with TSW to see what uh projects are and then we'll prioriti prioritize them based on that. But downtown is certainly [0:49:49, 0:50:09]: are going to be highlighted. Then we it'll probably be the first projects that will be kicked off. Can I say it will be that particular one? I think that might be the the next closest one because we're taking care of North Atlanta uh East Atlanta Road. We're taking care of Lee Street uh already. So um I'll just say stay tuned. [0:50:09, 0:50:20]: then I'll let you know uh what as things go because we don't want to put get anything and then there's something else planned. So let's see what comes up. But right now say it would probably be a high priority. [0:50:21, 0:50:26]: And um Councilman Alexander, that was driving me crazy to go back and see who that was. [0:50:26, 0:50:30]: It is the council approved the RFP. [0:50:30, 0:50:33]: for the Atlanta Regional Commission grant. [0:50:33, 0:50:36]: To cake and wood to design. [0:50:36, 0:50:38]: and develop a feasibility study. [0:50:38, 0:50:43]: and concept plan for the downtown Stockbridge pedestrian and bike. [0:50:43, 0:50:48]: connectivity. So that's what that was at that meeting. And it was [0:50:48, 0:50:49]: So a grant. [0:50:49, 0:50:52]: It was a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. [0:50:52, 0:50:56]: And the city has to pay twenty five thousand and the grant was ninety-eight thousand. [0:50:57, 0:51:02]: Right, right. So all of those would be involved the Kick and Wood, T SW [0:51:02, 0:51:07]: Uh and uh the master the the master parks where all of that will be involved and surely. [0:51:08, 0:51:12]: They will be consulting with uh us and they will be consulting with you, Mr. Custin. [0:51:13, 0:51:15]: Very good. Thank you. [0:51:16, 0:51:36]: All right, so that uh as far as old business, the next item is the MLK Senior Memorial Public Art Update. Um, we have made some good progress on the uh proposal for um uh the planning for the MLK Memorial. Uh we are meeting with the uh consultant next week to finalize that proposal. [0:51:36, 0:51:56]: And then once we feel like we've got a ready draft, it'll be both the uh the written sort of report, if you will, which is a brief report, it's about eight, 10 pages. And uh and it'll also be a presentation uh slideshow that we would present to the city council. Once we feel like we have that ready, um uh uh vanilla. [0:51:56, 0:52:04]: Nessa, I'll be reaching out to you to see when we can uh get uh on the council's agenda to present that. All right. [0:52:06, 0:52:07]: Um [0:52:07, 0:52:20]: The DDA logo I mentioned before we did get a finalized design. We just need to uh make the make the uh final payment and then we should get the full package for that. So that's almost ready. [0:52:20, 0:52:21]: And let's see what [0:52:22, 0:52:27]: What's next? We got that. And then I already mentioned the master plan. [0:52:27, 0:52:47]: Um oh then the last item on the um old business is the uh committee to draft the intergovernmental agreement. Um so Vanessa, thank you to you for initiating um with um the city's attorney, uh Mr. Washington, um what the status was. He did [0:52:47, 0:53:05]: respond to our attorney with uh um a couple of uh with a red line uh over the um uh coverage of the legal uh fees. Let me councilman let me explain to you what that what the intent was behind that. So [0:53:05, 0:53:07]: Prior to um [0:53:08, 0:53:24]: us even the DDA even engaging uh Mr. McCrae as our own attorney, it had been sort of a verbal understanding that if we needed, if the DDA needed legal support, that we could leverage the city's attorney if and when needed. [0:53:24, 0:53:26]: Um that's what that [0:53:27, 0:53:32]: um clause was meant to represent. So you know. [0:53:32, 0:53:52]: I the DDA did choose to get their own attorney and I'm glad we made that choice. It helped us out in the last couple of years. But I also like to use the city's money wisely, you know, if there's procedural things that we could just, you know, we just basic questions and things like that. [0:53:52, 0:54:12]: That. If if depending on how the the fun the rate structure is with the city's attorney, it could be a question, you know, if we could leverage the city's attorney for things that might be useful for the DDA and reduce the cost that the DDA is incurring with it with their attorney. Um, that that's what that clause. [0:54:12, 0:54:26]: was meant to address is to have the option of using the city's attorney but not necessarily um i guess require it um so maybe we need to work on the language there but i i just wanted to [0:54:27, 0:54:38]: clarify that with you, councilman, because I know that would be up uh ultimately up for the uh city council's decision on how we word that. Um do you have any questions or response to that or what the intent was there? [0:54:40, 0:54:41]: Yeah, yeah. [0:54:43, 0:54:52]: Uh no, I will just l wait on the interpretation from the attorney. You know, that's what it's gonna really come down to is what they what they what their input is. All right. [0:54:52, 0:54:54]: Very good. And um [0:54:55, 0:54:59]: See if there's anything else. Um I already did that. [0:55:00, 0:55:12]: Those are the main updates. So we'll open up for general discussion. Any updates on the economic development director uh vacancy? [0:55:13, 0:55:17]: I I don't have any update on that. I will try to do that, but I do have another update. [0:55:17, 0:55:21]: At our very last meeting, you know the condition of Burke Street. [0:55:22, 0:55:25]: We have been talking about that. That's been transferred. [0:55:25, 0:55:28]: We transferred funds from the local maintenance uh agreement. [0:55:29, 0:55:31]: And Burke Street will be repaved. [0:55:32, 0:55:37]: Yeah, instead of having that stretch down the middle of it looking like it's looking now. [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: Uh the da it that entire road will be repaved. [0:55:41, 0:55:43]: Which is befitting of what it should be. [0:55:43, 0:55:46]: Actually, I was looking at uh Jim Clark. [0:55:46, 0:55:50]: Jim Clark needs to be repaid too. So at some point we need to [0:55:50, 0:55:53]: Uh, you know, get with the public works and see. [0:55:53, 0:55:58]: what need to be done, but Berk Street really looked bad how it was with that strip. [0:55:58, 0:56:00]: down the middle how they just repay that. [0:56:00, 0:56:05]: So Burke Street will be getting re repaved down st downstrewn downtown. [0:56:07, 0:56:09]: Thank you. I appreciate that. Um [0:56:10, 0:56:15]: Uh Vanessa, have you received any applicants for the D DA vacancy? [0:56:16, 0:56:18]: I have not. I actually um [0:56:19, 0:56:25]: I mean we've been kind of aggressive with advertising this and promoting it when we go out and [0:56:26, 0:56:30]: everything. I don't know if it's the time of the year or what, but uh [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: I've not received anything for the DDA. [0:56:33, 0:56:35]: I have for the planning commission, but not for the D DA. [0:56:36, 0:56:37]: All right. [0:56:37, 0:56:51]: No, that's where we that that's where we need to be helpful. You know, some one of us needs to bring somebody to the table uh as a downtown business owner to be able to uh j you know, the citywide development authority have been kinda [0:56:51, 0:57:11]: What I was have been referring several people to that they didn't qualify for what we were doing, but to go ahead and move forward with that so we could assist of other businesses throughout the city with facade grants and such. Uh so that was kind of I want I was working on that, but certainly I will uh see the d endeavor to see whether we can get another. [0:57:11, 0:57:24]: board member and you should all you all you should all do the same. Exactly. I was I was gonna add to that that you know we we each take it upon ourselves as kind of an act of recruitment to um bring in who we think would be uh [0:57:24, 0:57:28]: uh help you know to support the DDA sort of on the board. [0:57:29, 0:57:45]: You know, you know, the one thing that we need to do with m Miss Holliday, what's the name of the business, the financial business that opened up downtown? I thought someone was going to reach out to them. Um we did a ribbon cutting there. [0:57:47, 0:57:52]: I d I don't I can't tell you right this second, but yes right there on Burke Street. Um [0:57:53, 0:57:55]: We did a ribbon cutting for them. [0:57:55, 0:58:05]: Yeah,'cause they are they are a major company. We need to see whether or not we could get And they moved here specifically. So yeah, they may very well be interested. [0:58:08, 0:58:28]: Let's see. Uh I think uh I will share that. I'll pull it up from my ribbon cutting uh file. Yeah, I think Mr. Peterson was supposed to reach out to them and then of course he's not here any longer. So we would need to make some adjustment. Maybe we could um uh you know, we'll we'll we'll we'll figure it out. But maybe Mr. Custon, you [0:58:28, 0:58:37]: might be able to reach out to them once we get the information going as an official representative uh to uh inquire whether they have any interest in that. [0:58:38, 0:58:40]: I'd be glad to. Thank you. Good idea. [0:58:41, 0:58:48]: um and then um so that's really all i have any other general discussion comments [0:58:51, 0:58:56]: All right. Well I appreciate y'all being here. I appreciate your work on the DDA as always. Um [0:58:57, 0:59:06]: And with that, how about um make a motion to adjourn the meeting? Real quick, uh the things that I wanna say. My town hall is on the twenty-seventh. [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Um [0:59:08, 0:59:11]: to it inclusive of all public safety. [0:59:12, 0:59:12]: And [0:59:13, 0:59:17]: An economic development update, Miss Richardson. [0:59:17, 0:59:26]: It is a if you want to find out any and everything that is going on in town, this is what we're going to be doing, talking about. [0:59:26, 0:59:32]: uh inclusive of downtown, but the public the uh police chief will be there. [0:59:32, 0:59:33]: The um [0:59:34, 0:59:48]: Uh the sheriff will be there, Mr. Scandrick, Sheriff Scandrick will be there. Uh the E911 representative uh will be there uh as well. All of those individuals and someone from Henry County Police Department. [0:59:48, 0:59:52]: uh should be there and then we will have uh [0:59:52, 0:59:53]: Economic development update. [0:59:54, 1:00:06]: Uh all and it's at the amphitheater in downtown. So we expect a nice crowd to come out to just if they just wanna come and see the amphitheater, you know, it'll be a good opportunity because we're gonna have it at the amphitheater. [1:00:06, 1:00:26]: in uh the center of downtown so we can highlight that and then I actually have us I put us on the flyer okay the DDA so certainly I would uh like for all of the DDA members to attend because I would like for you all to come up be recognized and to talk about [1:00:26, 1:00:27]: about what we do. [1:00:27, 1:00:32]: I would love to. I have an IRS audit that day in Savannah. I won't be. [1:00:32, 1:00:41]: I would I would much rather be at the I'm sure you would. Oh my goodness. So that's October twenty seventh. [1:00:42, 1:00:44]: Mm-hmm. Thursday, October twenty seventh. [1:00:45, 1:00:46]: Seven PM. Okay. [1:00:47, 1:00:48]: I'm I'm sorry. [1:00:48, 1:00:49]: Seven PM. [1:00:49, 1:00:51]: Will you will it be free as well? [1:00:51, 1:00:52]: Thank you. [1:00:53, 1:00:54]: Yes, it will be streamed. [1:00:54, 1:00:56]: Okay, I can probably uh [1:00:57, 1:01:00]: look at it virtually. But yeah, I'd much rather be where you're gonna be. [1:01:01, 1:01:06]: I'm sure, my goodness. Well I'll pray for you. Thank you. [1:01:07, 1:01:10]: All right. Any other closing remarks? [1:01:13, 1:01:16]: All right, that's all we had on the agenda. Um [1:01:16, 1:01:19]: Barb, I think you were about to make a motion to adjourn. [1:01:19, 1:01:32]: Yeah, but um before I do that, I want to apologize. I feel like I wasted you guys time by coming on late. I've been super busy and super exhausted with work. I literally had this meeting at 6 30 on my couch. I don't know how, I don't know why. [1:01:33, 1:01:43]: Please accept my apologies for coming in late. Um, that's not my intention, but with that being said, um yeah, just exhaustion. [1:01:43, 1:01:47]: So I move that we end the meeting at seven fifteen PM. [1:01:49, 1:01:50]: We have a second. [1:01:52, 1:01:53]: Thank you, Bob. [1:01:54, 1:01:56]: All those all those in favor of adjourning, please raise your hand. [1:01:57, 1:02:02]: Thank you all again. I appreciate your work this evening as always. Have a great night. Good night. [1:02:03, 1:02:05]: Thank you. Good night.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2022-10-10 source: 2022-10-10_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:13:38, 0:13:46]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have six oh five and we do have a quorum uh of the council. So please uh take your seats. [0:14:07, 0:14:09]: Is that [0:14:17, 0:14:21]: Madam Quirk, you look you ready? Okay. [0:14:28, 0:14:28]: Right. [0:14:31, 0:14:42]: All right, Madam Clerk, appreciate that. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I will call this uh council meeting for October tenth to order at six oh six and the Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:14:43, 0:14:46]: I'm sorry, excuse me, invocation first. Mr. Crawford, please. [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Please stand if you can. [0:14:54, 0:15:14]: That's right. Father, thank you for this beautiful day you provided for us. Thank you for the constituents that show up here and thank you for those leaders in this city that uh that run this and I pray that their decisions tonight are within within your glory. Pray that uh all turn safely tonight to our homes. Bless us, uh bless us as we continue to move in your service. [0:15:13, 0:15:30]: Amen. Pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America, and to the Republic who withstands one nation under God, individual liberty and justice for all. [0:15:31, 0:15:33]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:15:38, 0:15:39]: Present. [0:15:39, 0:15:41]: May approach him Thomas. [0:15:48, 0:15:52]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilman Blank. [0:15:54, 0:16:00]: That the record reflects Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Bear forward, do you have a quarter? [0:16:00, 0:16:02]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. [0:16:02, 0:16:09]: Uh Council, I need the uh adoption actually amendment to the agenda. Uh Mr. Alexander, please. [0:16:09, 0:16:29]: Yes, sir, Mayor, thank you. Uh, I need to amend the agenda to remove item number sixteen, item number seventeen, item number eighteen that will not be heard tonight. The applicant has requested this item be tabled and heard at the November 14th City Council meeting. That is the request. Also, we're gonna add to the agenda. [0:16:29, 0:16:42]: a resolution on the local option sales tax referred to as lost and um my councilman alexander's use of the amphitheater for uh the town hall on the twenty eighth. [0:16:43, 0:16:45]: Is there a second to that amendment? [0:16:45, 0:16:46]: I second. [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: Is there okay? Uh all in favor, please indicate. [0:16:50, 0:16:58]: Thank you. Okay, so you now have a decision on that aspect. Now now I need a motion to adopt an entire agenda, please. So moved. Okay, is there a second? [0:16:58, 0:17:00]: Second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:17:01, 0:17:21]: Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Council, you have before you the adoption of the minutes. You got the council minutes from our meeting in August 8th of 2022. Special call meeting minutes on August 15th. And also the work session minutes on August 30th of 2022. If you have any changes, please let those be known. If not, I need to [0:17:21, 0:17:32]: motion to accept those minutes, please. So moved. So Mr. Alexander, okay. Second. Ms. Ms. Gann, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you. Thank you very much. Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments, please? [0:17:35, 0:17:51]: number of people here this this evening and I believe they were under the under in the impression I'm sorry that the item for Camler Road was going to be on the agenda. It is not therefore this will not be a public hearing for that item but it it is available for [0:17:51, 0:17:52]: Public comment. [0:17:54, 0:18:00]: Okay, so otherwise the public comment is is based on the agenda items that were removed for November fourteenth. [0:18:00, 0:18:08]: No, sir, that's a totally different item. Okay, I'm sorry. This is a separate um item for Canada Road. It is not an item on the agenda. [0:18:09, 0:18:13]: But it's dealing with a public comment in reference to like a public hearing issue. [0:18:14, 0:18:27]: It's not in reference to a public hearing at all, but if anyone who wants to speak on Canler Road, it would become a public comment, sir. All right, well, okay, fine. So be it. So be it. So we have someone who wants to I'll uh have a public comment reference to Canler Road. [0:18:27, 0:18:29]: do uh terror welch. [0:18:34, 0:18:39]: You don't have any comments? No. Okay. Mark Welch? [0:18:43, 0:18:44]: John Burnett. [0:18:49, 0:18:50]: Operate. [0:18:52, 0:18:55]: Khivi. And Arbor Khivi. [0:19:02, 0:19:05]: Okay, it needs your name and uh address, please. [0:19:09, 0:19:13]: Okay. Please speak into the mic. Yes, sir. All right. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: Yeah, don't seem like this alone. [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: There we go. Thank you. [0:19:30, 0:19:40]: Aubrey Kakivi, AD Candler Road, representing Southern Grace Hospice. We have two primary choices in life. We can either accept conditions as they exist or we can take responsibility to change them. [0:19:41, 0:19:50]: See a lot of people want to exempt themselves from taking responsibility. All they want to do is talk about the problem. Every time you see them, they'll either tell you their story over and over and over again. [0:19:51, 0:19:54]: Since early twenty twenty one, I have pleaded with the city. [0:19:54, 0:20:00]: To stop the Candlero development over and over and over again. I come to you tonight asking. [0:20:01, 0:20:08]: For you to take responsibility as well as me taking responsibility for myself as the only business owner on Canler Road. [0:20:09, 0:20:18]: I also come tonight on behalf of my neighbors and their children, who do not only live on Kendall Road, but frequently walk and have children who ride their bikes on this semi-dirt road. [0:20:20, 0:20:28]: On June 22nd, 2021, a developer stated in an email to the DOT that they plan to develop this 175 Kandler Road. [0:20:29, 0:20:36]: Forty four acre lot into a truck trailer parking facility and have been speaking with Linda Logan with the city of Stockbridge regarding this. [0:20:38, 0:20:51]: The open records request revealed at the time the project was called Candler Road Industrial Park, a 498,160 square foot warehouse with over 124 tra tractor trailer parking spaces. [0:20:52, 0:21:12]: On July 1st, 2021, Henry County DOT informed the developer of the current County Road conditions, stating that it is a narrow surface treated roadway that was insufficient for tractor trailer use. On October 29th, I sent y'all an email based off of Linder's verb verbal approval and Gordon Linton's zoning verification letter dated May. [0:21:12, 0:21:13]: twenty twenty one. [0:21:14, 0:21:30]: On November 4th, Mayor Ford responded of the mat that the matter was being investigated, and currently the current research has indicated that plans have not been submitted to the city for a thorough review. November 6, 2021, Mayor Ford concluded that the Community Development Director has conducted a thorough research of the zoning requirements. [0:21:30, 0:21:38]: And a truck stop, truck terminal, or parking lot is not allowed under the current L M or M one zoning designation for the property. [0:21:39, 0:21:51]: May twenty sixth, two thousand twenty two, I emailed again that traffic was continuing. Um a stop work order was issued by the prop by the city for work for land being disturbed without a permit. [0:21:51, 0:21:53]: Август форт, твари то. [0:21:53, 0:21:59]: A notice of intent for the project entitled Canler Road Industrial was filed with the city of Stockbridge, august eighteenth. [0:21:59, 0:22:06]: 2022, Brian Gardiner from Safe Built reviewed for code compliance the development entitled Inlight Stock Bridge. [0:22:07, 0:22:26]: Same plans, 498,160 square foot warehouse and over 120 fract for tractor trailer parking spaces that Mayor Ford already stated was not permitted and would require rezoning. August 31st, 2022, a common development permit was issued for the project roject Candler Road Industrial Park. [0:22:26, 0:22:33]: October third, twenty twenty two, I submitted an open records request to this city and only received one email. [0:22:33, 0:22:41]: I humbly request to be able to continue. I'll stand by. Uh Council, I would imagine that you wanted to continue this. Go right ahead, please, ma'am. Thank you. [0:22:41, 0:22:51]: The records included the civil plans for the 498,160 square foot industrial building and parking entitled Canler Road Industrial Park, the development that Mayor you already seized. [0:22:52, 0:22:58]: On june tenth, twenty twenty-two, the forty-three point nine acre property closed to Blackstone Decayler Development. [0:22:58, 0:23:02]: As of the day as of today, the city has no record of a traffic study. [0:23:02, 0:23:12]: or any formal road plans that have been approved for the project by the DOT under the names Inlight Stockbridge or Canler Road Industrial Park. In fact, the developer has stated that the DO to the DOT [0:23:13, 0:23:20]: On two separate occasions that the Jodico Jodico intersection has been addressed and that the city of Stockbridge is in agreement with this plan. [0:23:21, 0:23:31]: Per the City of Stockbridge's Unified Development Code on adopted by all of you on March fourteenth, twenty twenty two, there are a plethora of code violations that prohibit this development from progressing forward. [0:23:32, 0:23:34]: nonetheless obtaining a land disturbance permit. [0:23:36, 0:23:41]: The property closed june tenth, twenty twenty two. It was into conservation until june twenty-seventh, twenty twenty two. [0:23:42, 0:23:48]: Therefore, no permits, project plans, or proposed property use letters submitted or obtained prior to its closure date are valid. [0:23:48, 0:23:56]: When the Unified Tax Development Code was adopted, this property was under a 10-year agricultural conservation or tax shelter, strictly put in place to. [0:23:56, 0:24:00]: protect the property from development and to save the owner's tax dollars. [0:24:00, 0:24:02]: The land disturbance permit issued. [0:24:03, 0:24:20]: Submitted on 8422 2022 includes an attestation that the developer contends all requirements under the City of Stockbridge's Universal Development Code have been met or accounted for in the attached plans. However, as I will outline, and I promise to be quick, that is not the case. Number one. [0:24:20, 0:24:40]: Per our Unified Development Code, Chapter 2, page 46, defines the light industrial district intent is to provide for light industrial uses, all of which shall be nuisance-free and not generators of a hazardous waste. It is intended that the light manufacturing uses shall be located on either arterial or major collector streets or within industrial parks. Canler Road is not. [0:24:40, 0:24:41]: Either of these. [0:24:41, 0:25:01]: Which brings me to number two. Per the city of Stockbridge's minimum development standards on page 99, if Canler Road were considered an arterial or collector street, the developer would be required to have a minimum of 80 to 100 feet of ride of way. They do not have this. Problem three: the letter of intent proposed a warehouse and office, no trailer park. [0:25:01, 0:25:15]: Parking was mentioned as this developer was informed truck parking would require rezoning by our mayor in November 2021. However, on the plan submitted with the name Inlight Stockbridge, over 124 tractor trailer parking spaces surrounded this warehouse. [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: We still have no idea what is exactly getting built. [0:25:19, 0:25:22]: Problem four, the current City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code. [0:25:23, 0:25:24]: The максимум [0:25:24, 0:25:44]: Lot coverage that includes parking per the diagram in the development code on page 47 is 50 percent. That means a new development can cover no more than 50 percent of a total lot. The developer plans includes thirty-five point five of the forty-three point nine acres covered, which equates to over eighty percent of the lot coverage. Again, not in compliance with [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: With code. [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: All right, council, wanna continue? [0:25:50, 0:26:10]: I have one more minute. Stand by. Okay. Go ahead, ma'am. Problem five. It's intended use according to the project summary submitted for a permit is moderate hazard storage, which is defined as buildings occupied for storing any flammable or combustible materials that are likely to permit the development and production of fire with a moderate rapidity. Per stockbridge, unified development. [0:26:09, 0:26:22]: Code, the L1 Indu industrial district is to provide for light industrial uses, all of which shall be nuisance-free and not generous, generators of hazardous wastes. Again, not in compliance with Stockbridge Code. Problem six. [0:26:23, 0:26:36]: Our code on page 139 states that sidewalks shall have a minimum width of eight feet in all commercial, industrial, and mixed use development areas. The site plans submitted to the city do not include a sidewalk, do not include any sidewalk plans at all. [0:26:37, 0:26:38]: In the last three weeks, [0:26:39, 0:26:51]: I have met with or contacted a plethora of you. Gordon Linton came to the site and measured Candler Road himself. The width in front of my property is only seventeen and a half feet, not big enough to even fit two cars through. [0:26:51, 0:26:58]: I've contacted Brenda Carter a total of seven times, in which all I received back was a text asking for my name. [0:26:58, 0:27:07]: I went to City Hall to meet with Ryan and Brenda, who insisted he would call me back and was diligently working on understanding the project. No return calls were received. [0:27:07, 0:27:13]: I have outlined six issues tonight which give you the power to immediately stop this development. [0:27:13, 0:27:21]: That has hastily been pushed through planning and zoning, a development that will significantly impact the safety and well-being of your constituents, the will that will redistrict. [0:27:23, 0:27:30]: That will impact the safety of the children who live on Canler Road and prevent them from riding their bikes as they have for many generations. [0:27:30, 0:27:37]: Henry Evans states, a culture of accountability makes a good organization great and a great organization unstoppable. [0:27:37, 0:27:45]: Therefore, I humbly and respectfully request that the planning and zoning department and this developer, who has presented itself under multiple names, [0:27:45, 0:27:52]: be held accountable to follow the city's minimum development standards and unified development code set forth and approved by this council. [0:27:53, 0:28:13]: I plead that Stockbridge take the opportunity to prove to prove that it is indeed a great, unstoppable city, and immediately sees the development of a warehouse with one hundred and twenty-four tractor trailer parking spaces, whether it be called Canler Road Industrial Park, Inlight Stockbridge, or any other development disguising itself and deliberately intending to mislead the city. [0:28:13, 0:28:13]: City. [0:28:14, 0:28:24]: Let's call a spade a spade. They are taking forty four acres of land and building a tractor trailer parking space spot overnight parking, despite being so this would require rezoning. [0:28:25, 0:28:27]: May I answer any questions the council may have? [0:28:27, 0:28:44]: Uh actually uh what what's gonna happen is that the city uh manager is well aware of this along with the council members, city manager has a charge to uh dig down in this particular issue and get it resolved and at the best as possible in that aspect. Thank you for your comments. Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay. [0:28:46, 0:28:49]: Okay, we will move on. Any any other uh public comments? Um [0:28:50, 0:28:57]: Okay, thank you. All right. Uh on this note uh we will now go on a ceremonial uh basis for the meeting here. [0:28:59, 0:29:07]: And I have several proclamations to read. Council, you will be willing to join me if you want down here, if you like. And I'll call it as a point in time. [0:29:08, 0:29:09]: You go through this part. [0:29:29, 0:29:37]: We'll start with the uh Spider Cord Awareness Month. Mr. Ash, sir, you are here? Joshua Ash? [0:29:43, 0:29:51]: Oh is that right? Okay, is that what we do with [0:29:53, 0:30:01]: I know, sir. No, I'll be okay. So you want that to go first before I start a meeting? [0:30:04, 0:30:24]: All right. All right, just a proclamation of City of Stock Ridge recognition of Spinal Cord Awareness Month. Whereas a spinal cord injury refers to any damage to the spinal cord, whether from trauma, disease, or degenerative disorder. And whereas after a spinal cord injury, nerves above the level injury keep working as a [0:30:24, 0:30:44]: Did before, but messages from the brain to the body may become fully or partially blocked below the level of injury. And whereas to raise awareness about this prevalent issue in 2014, the U.S. Senate resolution 533 recognized the month of September as national spinal cord injury awareness. [0:30:44, 0:31:04]: Awareness Month. And whereas people with spinal core injury can continue to live full, productive, and rewarding lives, to do so, it's essential that they have access to the resources they need, including spinal core injury, rehabilitation, medical care, quality jobs, education, mental health treatment. And whereas the city of Stockbridge recognizes [0:31:04, 0:31:24]: It is vital that we continue to have informed, resourceful, and productive conversations about how to improve policies and resources for people with disabilities. These conversations help spark ideas and increase support around the research and discovery of effective treatments and therapies to help those with spinal cord injuries. Now, therefore, I am [0:31:24, 0:31:44]: Anthony S. Ward by Virtual Authority Ves McNey as the mayor of the City of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members, Ellen Alexander, Milana Barber John, Kesia Gantt and Aphonso Thomas, who hereby encourage everyone to join us in raising awareness of spinal core injuries in our community. A witness thereof, I have here to uh set my hand [0:31:44, 0:31:52]: I'm the Great Seal of the City of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 10th day of October, year of our Lord, 2022. And I signed this along for our tour of Promessa Holiday. [0:31:56, 0:31:57]: Okay. [0:31:58, 0:32:03]: If we have a well, if you have a proper uh I maybe you'll necessarily mean it might the floor is yours. [0:32:04, 0:32:12]: Mayor and Council, I would like to thank you all for presenting the proclamation and most importantly, Mr. Lutation, I would like to thank you. [0:32:14, 0:32:17]: Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate that. [0:32:19, 0:32:30]: You gonna show something to us here? Yes, I'm not sure if it's gonna have audio because it was just handed to me, so I will try my best to get this played. [0:32:32, 0:32:34]: I would like to you know turn I can't I can't [0:32:36, 0:32:44]: I'm sorry, I'll let it turn. I can't I can't. Okay. Okay, here we go. [0:32:50, 0:32:51]: Call me crazy bird. [0:32:52, 0:32:53]: Don't touch my truck. [0:32:56, 0:32:57]: Yep, yep. [0:32:59, 0:33:01]: Don't touch my truck. [0:33:05, 0:33:13]: Don't touch my wood grain dash with the matte black finishing Match my shautie with the big off buttons. [0:33:14, 0:33:21]: No them boys off cause I got hard business. You can show me if you wanna go and test your luck. [0:33:21, 0:33:23]: Set up, give me. [0:33:23, 0:33:25]: Back to six. [0:33:27, 0:33:30]: Sua estija. Quero sair, eu não quero. [0:33:50, 0:33:58]: We need to make taking pictures. We need we need to make sure we take pictures of all this here. [0:34:02, 0:34:04]: And [0:34:09, 0:34:14]: I'm gonna do this two ways. Okay. [0:34:15, 0:34:22]: Get this one and then I'm gonna come for the other side so I can get the seal in the background. Okay. [0:34:32, 0:34:35]: Fantastic. Congratulations. [0:34:45, 0:34:46]: Okay. [0:34:47, 0:34:47]: Four. [0:34:50, 0:34:53]: Ms. Taylor, are you present? [0:34:55, 0:35:03]: Taylor? Okay, this is in reference. Come on, Ms. Taylor, please. This pro next population is uh domestic violence awareness month. [0:35:05, 0:35:25]: How are you? All right. All right. Yeah, okay, what's coming on the side? Problem basic city is stock race, George, recognition of domestic violence awareness month. Whereas in October is able to recognize the National Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and whereas domestic violence in the pattern of [0:35:25, 0:35:28]: [2129.4, 2149.4]: Intimidated partner, current or former, uses to gain and maintain control over another. This abuse can occur in the form of physical, verbal, emotional, sexual, and economic control. Veterans often use these multiple tactics such as isolation, intimidation, sexual, and physical association. [0:35:49, 0:36:09]: Assault forced to substance abuse assaults threatening or assessive monitoring to control and manipulate victims and survivors. And whereas domestic violence affects maities across the US, regardless of cultural background, ethnicity, sexual orientation, faith, social economic status, ability, or educational background. [0:36:09, 0:36:29]: This means it's very likely we would all know someone who is a victim or survivor and someone who is an abuser. And whereas victims and survivors need comprehensive services, but more so genuine and non-judgmental support from friends, family, and our community. [0:36:29, 0:36:49]: Education and awareness are critical components of an effort to end domestic violence. Please contact Aiden House at 770-954-1008 or the crisis line at 770-954-9229 for local health and assistance. Now therefore I am [0:36:49, 0:37:09]: Award by virtual authority best and me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elden Alexander, Elana, Barber, John Bon, Peace, Gannon, and Afonso Thomas, we hereby proclaim October as domestic violence and awareness month in the city of Stockbridges. And we call on all citizens and communities to join the movement to end domestic violence. [0:37:09, 0:37:28]: violence. We must do our part to support victims and survivors and come together as a community to end this abusive behavior. And witness thereof I have here to set my hand, the great seal of the city of Scott Bridge, Georgia, on the 10th day of October, year of our Lord, 2022, my son Clerk and Isaac. [0:37:43, 0:38:02]: Do you have any comments then? Um I would like to say thank you again for men and women and just to tell you all to speak up, you know, your voice can be heard to save someone's life. It's nothing to be embarrassed about. Or if you know anybody that's suffering in silence, say something because just saying something can save someone's life. [0:38:02, 0:38:07]: [2288.0, 2308.0]: This next one is actually breast cancer awareness month. So uh kind of gonna pick this month, obviously, right? All right. In this aspect. So uh I don't know if there are any breast cancer survivors uh that are present that want to come forward. I will read this regardless. Anybody? All right. All right. [0:38:27, 0:38:47]: Whereas breast cancer is the most common type of cancer among women in the world, a second leading cause of cancer death among women in the United States. More than one in eight women and one of 833 men in the U.S. will be diagnosed with breast cancer in their lifetimes. Whereas breast cancer awareness month began in 1915. [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: 1985 as a partnership between American Cancer Society, Imperial Chemical Industries, Pharmaceuticals, AstroCeneco. And whereas we encourage all women and men to find out if they are at an increased risk to learn more about their amendments and screens by speaking with their health care providers earlier. [0:39:07, 0:39:27]: And whereas during breast cancer awareness month, we recognize that women and men courageously fight to survive, protect, treat, prevent, as court survivors of this devastating disease. And if you are a breast cancer survivor or have been recently diagnosed, October is a great time to be reminded. [0:39:27, 0:39:47]: remind you and that you're not alone. Now therefore I am asked for by virtue of authority investing me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander Yolon, Barber John, TC Gannon and Afonso Thomas, who hereby proclaim October as breast cancer awareness month in the city of Stockbridge, and we encourage and [0:39:47, 0:40:07]: Invite everyone to join us on Saturday, October 15th for the city's annual Pink Love Walk Community Park as we walk in supportive and in remembrance of those impacted by breast capsules. That's my way that starts at 11 o'clock. And witness thereof I have here unto set my hand, the great seal of the city startup is Georgia on the 10th. [0:40:07, 0:40:16]: Day of October year run lower of 2022. And I signed this along with my product that's a holiday. Okay. [0:40:31, 0:40:36]: So in a reference to a world mental health day, Miss Myers, please. [0:40:40, 0:41:00]: How are you? All right. Um up a little closer. Okay, proclamation once again, City Star Prince Georgia recognition of World Mental Health Day. Whereas the World Health Organization recognizes World Mental Health Day on October 10th of every year, whereas the [0:41:00, 0:41:20]: Theme of 2022's World Mental Health Day is to make mental health and well-being for all a global priority. And whereas mental health problems exist in our lives with our families, the workplace, and throughout communities impacting everyone, the COVID-19 pandemic highlighted and exacerbated the global mental [0:41:19, 0:41:39]: Health crisis, fueling short and long-term stresses and undermining the mental health families. Estimates put at the rise in both anxiety and depressive disorders at more than 25% during the first year of the pandemic. At the same time, mental health services were severely interrupted and the treatment. [0:41:39, 0:41:59]: Gap for mental health conditions was widened. And whereas World Mental Health Day is a chance to talk about mental health in general, how we need to look after it, look after it, yes, and how important it is to talk about things and get help. If you or someone else knows if they're struggling. [0:41:59, 0:42:19]: Stigma and discrimination continue to be a barrier to social inclusion and access to the right care. But we can all play a part in increasing awareness about which preventive mental health interventions work. Now, therefore, I am transformed by virtual authority invested in me and as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:42:19, 0:42:39]: On behalf of City Council members Alexander, Lada Barber, John Blount, Lakesa Gantt, and the Father Thomas who hereby proclaim October 10th, 2022, as Rural Mental Health Day and CS Stockbridge, and we encourage everyone to show your support in making mental health a priority in our community. A witness thereof, I have here unto [0:42:39, 0:42:50]: set by hand, the great sealed city of Stockbridge, Georgia, 10th day of October, year of our Lord, 2022. And I signed this along with our clerk for Mesa Holiday. [0:43:04, 0:43:24]: Please and well any any words that you want to order to us, please. Um I just want to say thank you so much. I'm so excited that I've been doing this work for about thirty years and before it was even, you know, really spoke about a lot with a lot of things and stigma attached to it. So I'm grateful for being able to, you know, to serve everyone from homeless domestic violence. [0:43:24, 0:43:35]: you know, depression, anxiety, all types of mental health in children and adults. But I'm just grateful to receive this and I'm hoping that people continue to seek out services and mental health services. [0:43:40, 0:43:41]: I guess. Um [0:43:42, 0:43:44]: I'm a living testimony. [0:43:46, 0:44:06]: And uh my story started a long time ago when I was a child and I didn't know anything about any any help when it comes to mental health. But I witnessed a lot, I wit witnessed domestic violence, I went through things as a child that I shouldn't have gone through. [0:44:06, 0:44:07]: Yeah. [0:44:07, 0:44:10]: Ten years ago I didn't want to be here anymore. [0:44:11, 0:44:18]: Thank goodness I was a veteran and I decided to call Veterans Hope. [0:44:18, 0:44:36]: And I'm still here, I'm still fighting, I'm fighting for myself and I'm fighting for others. Because people still don't want to, you know, think about how big of a difference it will make when people are killed. [0:44:39, 0:44:41]: Thank you. [0:44:44, 0:45:04]: Okay, National Women's Small Business Month, the show. And any any of your lady friends that want to come on up, come on. Please. Well I mean all ladies. I'm sorry. Come on. Small business on the [0:45:04, 0:45:05]: Oh [0:45:09, 0:45:15]: So you get one of those you can I too as well. Fantastic. [0:45:16, 0:45:18]: More thanks for the round. [0:45:28, 0:45:37]: Okay, quote myself Yeah he pop in because okay stop there is don't recognition national women small service one. [0:45:38, 0:45:46]: Whereas October is national. All right. [0:45:48, 0:46:08]: Whereas October is National Women's Small Business Month, which means it's time to recognize women-owned businesses everywhere, as well as outstanding progress female entrepreneurs have made over the years. And where starting a small business was once considered an undertaking. [0:46:08, 0:46:28]: primarily for men times and changes. There are currently over 12 million women-owned businesses in the United States. They employ nearly 10 million people to generate over 12, excuse me, 2 trillion in annual sales revenue. Whereas in October 1988, President Ronald Reagan assigned HR, for some House Resolution 50-50 [0:46:28, 0:46:48]: The Women's Business Ownership Act. This legislation increased federal support for all women-owned businesses and made it easier for female entrepreneurs to get working capital and business training assistance. Before this bill was signed into law, some states require women to have a male family member co-signed on the business loan applications. [0:46:48, 0:47:08]: Whereas entrepreneurship is a booming for women in the United States and various businesses, women are making a significant impact in professional services, healthcare, social services, educational services, and apparel and accessory industries. Now, therefore, I am scored by personal authority best of being as the mayor of the City of Stock Race, Georgia. On behalf of City Council. [0:47:08, 0:47:28]: members of Dallas and Lama Barber John Club and KC Gannon and Father Thomas do hereby proclaim October as National Women's Small Business Month in the City of Stockbridge Georgia. Witness thereof I have handed here unto set my hand with great seal of the city of Starbucks Georgia on the 10th day of October of the year of our Lord 2022 and assigned [0:47:28, 0:47:31]: [2852.1, 2860.6]: [0:47:46, 0:47:48]: You got in there? [0:47:48, 0:47:50]: Love girls. [0:47:50, 0:47:51]: Oh yeah. [0:47:53, 0:47:57]: Well we bad. [0:48:07, 0:48:11]: Fantastic. Okay. Uh you hear it? [0:48:12, 0:48:32]: Well, um thank you, City of Safbridge, um council and mayor. I am Ariel Shaw, founder and president of Southern Crescent Women in Business. These are members as well as business owners in the community. So if we could just take one second and just say what your business name is. [0:48:32, 0:48:32]: Mm-hmm. [0:48:35, 0:48:36]: Okay. [0:48:37, 0:48:38]: The gene is right. [0:48:40, 0:48:42]: Favorite. [0:48:43, 0:48:46]: A tiny team for a name line in helping show its agency. [0:48:47, 0:48:49]: Like beyond waterable wall rich. [0:48:49, 0:48:50]: [2934.0, 2935.1]: [0:49:19, 0:49:39]: Again, we think uh setting a stock raise. I want to make sure um while I have this public space to please come out to our funding pitch is going to be October 26th. It's gonna be at Merrill Mammers Conference Center, and we are there to fund a woman-owned business. So far we have funded four women-owned businesses, and so we're [0:49:39, 0:49:40]: [2989.4, 2992.8]: All right. [0:49:54, 0:49:58]: Yeah, okay. Yeah, come on up a minute. Uh solve okay. [0:50:01, 0:50:05]: Work this way, work this system. [0:50:07, 0:50:08]: Okay. [0:50:31, 0:50:40]: All right, good deal. Thank you. All right. All right, uh Michelle, you you must come back up, please. [0:50:43, 0:50:46]: And uh Glass and Woodall. [0:50:52, 0:51:12]: Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Ultra Balfour Score Citywide Development Authority. I have two members that are want to join us, uh join authority today. There you go, sir. All right. And what I'm gonna ask you to do is all gets here is to raise your right hand, and I'm gonna ask you to repeat after me. I'll take a small little snippet, sir. [0:51:12, 0:51:21]: Okay? Alright? Okay. Raise your right hand, please. I and then state your name. [0:51:21, 0:51:41]: Board okay board member do solemnly swear and affirm that I will faithfully perform the duties of the citywide development authority of the city of Stockbridge and that I will to the best of my ability [0:51:41, 0:52:01]: Support and defend the charter thereof, as well as the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office I do not hold. [0:52:01, 0:52:04]: No. Any unaccountable for public money? [0:52:04, 0:52:05]: Yeah. [0:52:06, 0:52:08]: Do a payable to the state? [0:52:08, 0:52:12]: in it local subdivision of the state. [0:52:12, 0:52:16]: The city of Scopridge or any authority thereof. [0:52:17, 0:52:18]: Nor do I hold [0:52:19, 0:52:23]: Any other office of trust of the government of the United States? [0:52:25, 0:52:26]: On this thing. [0:52:27, 0:52:30]: Or any foreign state as prescribed [0:52:31, 0:52:32]: By the wall. [0:52:32, 0:52:34]: Of the state of Georgia. [0:52:34, 0:52:36]: Uh so long with a firm. [0:52:37, 0:52:39]: That are fully qualified. [0:52:40, 0:52:50]: Under the constitution and the laws of the state to hold the office, Citywide Development Authority Board Member. [0:52:50, 0:53:10]: And that I will perform the duties of my office at the best of my interest. Best of my interest. Excuse me. Excuse me. Duties in the office, I'm sorry, excuse me. Duties of my office in the best interest of the city's stuff. [0:53:10, 0:53:13]: [3193.8, 3213.8]: That was a little wrong. Okay. To the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Reward. Reward. Or expectation thereof. This is on the tenth day of October twenty twenty-two. Tenth day of October twenty twenty two. [0:53:33, 0:53:41]: Congratulations, got that little software in there. [0:53:41, 0:53:49]: No, we all we've all need to sign these documents here, but while we're doing this, any you have any comments that that you want to make publicly here to everybody? You have the floor? [0:53:52, 0:54:12]: Okay, so um I I mean thank you one council Alexander um who nominated me and thank you for the entire council and mayor for um supporting that nomination. I'm here to support City of Soccer as I have over several years and this would have been an official format. [0:54:17, 0:54:37]: Sir, if you have any comments, go ahead, please. Um, and the memory accounting um I think we have to prove it. So I'm not out here and I'd like to see um. [0:54:37, 0:54:42]: uh a great edition and we're reporting that I think we got [0:54:42, 0:54:59]: Okay. Oh, after training. I get that training. Do you sign many more or [0:55:08, 0:55:12]: Have a great day, the city of Scarborough. All right. [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: I think it's a both. [0:55:20, 0:55:25]: Okay. I will give me one second. So she'll take me just a second. Yeah, you wanna put that back while we take photos? Okay. [0:55:27, 0:55:37]: So um you want to seal the background here? Yes, please. Okay. But let's let's kind of look at this which you get from this angle. Please run it. [0:55:39, 0:55:40]: [3344.4, 3346.3]: [0:55:57, 0:56:07]: Thank you. Congratulations to March. All right. Okay, good. [0:56:08, 0:56:10]: So right here. [0:56:29, 0:56:40]: All right. What's next on our agenda would be a presentation of FY twenty twenty three annual operating budget and capital improvement plan. Mr. Gardner, please. [0:57:31, 0:57:32]: Alright. [0:57:33, 0:57:35]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:57:35, 0:57:55]: Evening. Uh tonight. Uh my goal is to present to you uh FY twenty-three budget. And um so my goal for the presentation is to kind of reflect our funding for some key areas as well as kind of give you guys a high level view of the budget, and it might be a little bit more detailed. [0:57:55, 0:58:14]: detail than than you might be accustomed to, but um also talk a little bit about some of our challenges and some opportunities that have that have come awry and then get some some consensus from you guys as to how I wanna move it along and if that's okay with the council. [0:58:16, 0:58:36]: So as you guys know, early this year we worked with our strategic planning partner to come up with our strategic plan, our five-year strategic plan. We work with our staff in reference to after our meeting with the council back in February. Uh and our consultants are f finalizing our plan. Hopefully we bring that to you guys. [0:58:36, 0:58:56]: But we also wanted to kind of talk about funding in some areas around uh our four focus areas, which was our quality of life, cultural and brand development, economic growth, and sustainability. And with that, we've obviously provide funding in some of the key areas. And this is just a highlight, it's not all inclusive. [0:58:56, 0:59:09]: Um, but funding obviously to our park master plan, our continued funding for our public safety, as we noted, that's a high quality of life issue, as well as our infrastructure improvements over the next uh [0:59:10, 0:59:24]: fiscal year. Uh as it relates to brand obviously to keep funding for our amphitheater and have some cost savings associated with that in terms of change in venue management, but also funding for looking at potential funding for our cultural arts center. [0:59:24, 0:59:27]: And then also working around our way finding program. [0:59:28, 0:59:44]: As relates to economic growth, obviously the council has CFA to start uh development authority, citywide development authority, which is funded under the budget, but funding also for the D DA and I will try to leverage funds outside thereof for additional funding for both of those entities to operate. [0:59:44, 0:59:47]: Also part of that is working on some key [0:59:47, 0:59:52]: some key incentive programs around our tax allocation district, our TAD. [0:59:52, 1:00:12]: as well as opportunity zones and enterprise zones where we can properly put them. So we're working in this on that sustainability, obviously one of the key things we've heard about is how do we reduce our carbon footprint for sustainability. We're working on that through charging stations, as well as uh looking at stormwater so that we don't get any descent concrete around storm. [1:00:12, 1:00:22]: water management. And I'll tell you today I had to stop and pull over and tell some guys they were blowing leaves on Country Club Drive into the street. And I'm like, guys, what are y'all doing? You all supposed to pick this stuff up. [1:00:23, 1:00:27]: Um you're not supposed to do that'cause it gets in the storm drain, but they were just blowing as they go. [1:00:30, 1:00:41]: So some of the highlights and priority areas. Obviously we talk about infrastructure improvements and continuing moving in that phase. Obviously in terms of parks improvements, making sure we do some uh additional things around our parks. [1:00:42, 1:01:02]: Which are all passive and not act active. We don't host recreation programs. Um implementation of all of our SPLUS funded projects, making sure we keep in compliance with our SPLUS laws, but also moving those projects forward. Um implementing some changes in technology, and you'll start to see some of that around our work, our website, as well as some of the software that we're hoping. [1:01:02, 1:01:22]: To put in place over the next fiscal year. But also one of the big things is obviously road paving, making sure we continue our road paving. And as uh our public works director informed you guys recently, we're about, you know, last year we completed around five miles of roadway resurfacing, repaving, as well as sidewalk improvements at about two miles. [1:01:22, 1:01:25]: miles. So our goal is to continue moving in that area. [1:01:26, 1:01:29]: And one of the key projects in Dear to My Heart is downtown redevelopment. [1:01:30, 1:01:32]: And as you guys know, we've been working around [1:01:32, 1:01:44]: Um the downtown with our market analysis as well as me working with some developers to talk about interest in our downtown areas, specifically those properties that we currently own where we can get a lot of traction around. [1:01:44, 1:01:55]: revitalizing the downtown area and turning the face of our downtown around. Um, I did mention economic incentives. That's one of the key things, some key tools we're missing out of our toolbox that we need. [1:01:56, 1:02:00]: Um and can utilize and I mentioned that earlier some round uh tad. [1:02:00, 1:02:13]: That's going to be a huge deal to make some things happen here in the downtown area because as we grow residential development in the downtown, there's going to be a need for parking. And that'll be one of the key things we're going to have to address is structured parking downtown. [1:02:14, 1:02:21]: Um some of the key indicators of that is making sure right now we've got some grant monies that we're going after to connect uh [1:02:22, 1:02:42]: the west side of the train tracks with the east side of the train tracks. Uh and that's gonna be a huge deal through some of the federal funding that we got. And um we're real excited about the funding opportunities around that. And that's gonna help from an economic development standpoint,'cause somebody who lives here can tr easily traverse it when we build, can traverse over to the other side to [1:02:42, 1:02:46]: to entertain wine and dine uh as we go downtown. [1:02:46, 1:02:51]: Um continuing to look for funding options to fill that gap for the Cultural Art Center. [1:02:51, 1:02:53]: And then as we mentioned earlier before. [1:02:53, 1:03:06]: Focusing and making sure that the police department gets where they need to be, as uh our chief and his command staff say, not the best police department in the state of Georgia or the South East or the United States, but the best police department in the world. [1:03:09, 1:03:29]: So this year our for overall funding across all funds for the city is right at forty two forty nine point two million. That's uh twenty one point seven million for our fund balance, about a million dollars in grants. Hotel motel about three set three hundred and seventy five thousand. And we propose to see that increase because we're they're look [1:03:29, 1:03:40]: likelihood is we'll have four new hotels coming online um next year. We got two, three currently under construction. So two over in the Eagles Landing area, one over [1:03:40, 1:03:59]: on the west side of town on highway one hundred thirty eight and there's a proposal for an additional hotel that I'll talk to you guys about tonight um in the Eagles landing area around the hotel. But our overall budget for the year across all funds is forty nine point two million. [1:04:01, 1:04:08]: So how is that distributed in terms of general fund 21.7, uh sanitation one point nine? [1:04:09, 1:04:11]: Stormwater just over a million. [1:04:11, 1:04:27]: Uh water sewer fund one point nine million. Uh water fund two point three million. Uh capital outlay citywide is three point thirteen point five, URA one point two, uh grants red out a million dollars. And that accounts for that forty nine point two million. [1:04:31, 1:04:51]: So when we talk about how those expenses are even broken down even further, as you know, our number one resource is our people. And obviously in any organization you're gonna be people heavy in local government. So right now we're budgeting across all departments in the city eleven point five million uh for contracts and services. We're right at [1:04:51, 1:04:52]: I don't get enlarged. [1:04:54, 1:04:55]: Go on. [1:04:57, 1:05:00]: I can't even see what's on the screen. Oh [1:05:01, 1:05:12]: Uh three point eight million. Uh supplies across the city, one point four one point five million. Uh capital outlays in the general fund right at four hundred and seventy eight. [1:05:13, 1:05:22]: Um other costs sixty one hundred and sixty two thousand and other financing uses, which is usually our debt service for all of our bonds and so forth at four point two million. [1:05:26, 1:05:28]: Talk a little bit about our capital fund operations. [1:05:31, 1:05:33]: So in our capital fund operations [1:05:33, 1:05:39]: Um when we talk about revenues and remember your budget is not predicated on expenses, it's predicated on revenues. [1:05:40, 1:05:51]: So that's that's the key thing we have to look at. Your budget is not predicated on expense, it's predicated on ex on revenues. So revenues being generated through our taxation, and I'll break that down a little bit further for you, is right around [1:05:52, 1:06:01]: Right around 12.2 million from license and fees. We propose to hover around thirty uh three one point three million dollars in uh license and permits. [1:06:02, 1:06:05]: Excuse me, intergovernmental about one point two. [1:06:05, 1:06:17]: million, charges for services, three hundred and sixty five thousand. Fines and forfeitures right around nine hundred and ten. As you know, we started our new police department. So we now see we'll see some growth and especially in our fines. [1:06:18, 1:06:20]: As these guys go about doing their jobs. [1:06:21, 1:06:33]: Um investment income obviously is a little to none because we don't do a lot of major investments. Um but some miscellaneous income around four point seven and other sources just under a million dollars for a total of twenty one point seven million. [1:06:39, 1:06:59]: So when we talk about percentages, what is you know, what's our major source of revenue is it's gonna be coming from taxation, of which I'll even show you a a break further breakdown of what that looks like. But lost is our number one. And that's where we have some potential challenges. And I'll talk about those challenges as I go through the presentation. Um, as you know, we're in our final year. [1:06:59, 1:07:19]: Of loss, and we're in negotiations with the county regarding loss. And we sent you guys an email kind of updating you guys as to where we were with uh loss negotiations recently. So we're proposing to keep the loss split as they have been over the last 10 years. The county obviously is disagreeing with that, thinking that somewhere [1:07:19, 1:07:39]: Around seventy plus or more percentage of the loss should come from should go to them. Uh and so we had a meeting rec last week, Wednesday, we're prepared to go to arbitration. And um I kind of set out the rules to you guys in that memo as to how we're gonna move forward on that. But that's our number one source. [1:07:40, 1:08:00]: The miscellaneous income is another one of our major sources, fines, uh intergovernmental agreements, and permits. So right around 59% of our income comes from which should be your loss, your hotel motel, your liquor tax, um, insurance, premium tax, all those added up for your taxes. [1:08:00, 1:08:00]: [4084.0, 4092.6]: And this is what that looks like when we break it on down even further in terms of what we're proposing for lost. And so that loss number is gonna be a variable. [1:08:13, 1:08:21]: Um, we don't know exactly where we're gonna end up. Right now the county is proposing that we stay at the same for the first year, which is 6634. [1:08:22, 1:08:24]: Um but if sometimes they agree [1:08:25, 1:08:34]: Um to us to something different, obviously and we come to an agreement and that percentage dropped, that has a potential effect on on what our loss would overall be. [1:08:35, 1:08:40]: That's one of the biggest areas that that we have to look at um as it relates to our loss. [1:08:45, 1:09:05]: And as I mentioned before, uh budget, primarily these are the key areas around your budget when you develop your budget, your general fund, fiduciary funds, which are like your investment and pension, um, your enterprise funds, which we have three of water, sewer, sanitation, stormwater, uh special funds, which is SPLOSS and Grants, capital funds. [1:09:04, 1:09:12]: Fund, which is usually funded through uh capital, can be funded through grants, but major funds usually general fund and enterprise funds. [1:09:16, 1:09:28]: So when we talk about the general fund and how that's how those one that twenty-one point seven is distributed, um you will see by your chart. Oh, excuse me. [1:09:30, 1:09:50]: You'll see by your chart that public safety. And in most go governmental agencies, whether you have police or police and fire, that's usually your number one, that's where the bulk of your general fund revenues go to funding. It's public safety. So for us, we just have police, right? So police is gonna be our biggest department, it's our largest department by man. [1:09:50, 1:09:52]: Manpower, but also by equipment. [1:09:53, 1:09:55]: Right, so they make up about thirty four percent. [1:09:55, 1:10:03]: Uh where the money goes into the general fund, Public Works S next, which is the second biggest department usually in most governments, public works. [1:10:03, 1:10:06]: Right around eighteen percent, planning and development ten percent. [1:10:07, 1:10:23]: Uh other governmental entity uh activities, right around nine percent, governmental body three percent, city clerk two percent, executive four percent, finance four percent, governmental buildings um five percent, and economic development at two percent. [1:10:27, 1:10:47]: So to kind of give you a brief history of where we have been with our general fund over the years and as we continue to diversify and grow as a city, obviously, so grow with our uh operational costs. So over the last five years, we've gone from ten point eight million to twenty-one point seven million with last year. [1:10:47, 1:10:52]: year on and this is un unaudited, but eighteen point four million for the general fund. [1:10:56, 1:11:01]: Talk a little bit more about our capital and where we are with our capital outlays. [1:11:01, 1:11:02]: For the next year. [1:11:04, 1:11:08]: This kinda gives you a breakdown of our capital program um by department. [1:11:09, 1:11:10]: Right. [1:11:22, 1:11:32]: So public works, as you will know, makes up the bulk of our capital in terms of where that revenue goes to. And a lot of that I'll break down even further so you'll get a good idea of where those funds come from. [1:11:33, 1:11:43]: Um but public works is number one, water sewer, number two, uh public safety is number three, stormwater and the Merylanders is four, five. [1:11:46, 1:12:06]: So when we talk about even a little bit more drill down in terms of what's in the capital budget, um police tactical gear and equipment at one point 1.6 million, uh equipment for parks or improvements to our parks, about 300,000, resurfacing program, a million dollars, road ray intersection improvement. [1:12:06, 1:12:23]: And you'll see our funding sources for those is typically SPLOS or T SPLOS and a few general funds. And we have some APA funds that we're putting towards the court building at 84,000. But our water and sewer systems, 3.3 million, water distribution, 600,000. [1:12:23, 1:12:34]: Uh five point five million dollars, which is our Ts plus Plus, uh at five point five million, city repairs three hundred thousand, well man is two thirty nine, uh stormwater upgrades are three hundred and fifty thousand. [1:12:39, 1:12:59]: So to talk about our budget process and how we started, we you know we developed a calendar sender back to you guys back in June, kinda outlaying um our dates and times where we'd be going. We did some of our projections around our revenues. Um then we asked our departments to work on what their expenditures would be for the air for the FY twenty three budget. Um [1:12:59, 1:13:16]: They work with that with us. We reviewed it, went through it, made some cuts. We'll still make some adjustments even after we give you this documents. There'll be some adjustments being made um in the budget. Um but our overall is to stay under our revenue numbers. So we'll just be moving some numbers around. [1:13:16, 1:13:27]: um in certain departments as we go along. Uh changes and adjustments to the budget. We talked about um submittal the council. So under our ordinance section six point two four [1:13:28, 1:13:30]: You, the city council, are required to get the budget. [1:13:31, 1:13:35]: Sixty days from the date of adoption. That sixty day would be November second. [1:13:36, 1:13:41]: I buy a calendar date for this year. You guys are getting it on October tenth, that gives you roughly about [1:13:41, 1:13:43]: Two and a half months to review the budget. [1:13:44, 1:13:48]: Right, um and gun backs requ with comments and I'll get into that a little bit more. [1:13:50, 1:13:52]: So when we talk about the timeline. [1:13:52, 1:13:56]: Um, we're out at this. We're I'm doing this presentation and submitted to you tonight. [1:13:57, 1:14:17]: Our goal is obviously to get uh put on the on our agenda for October 25th question and answer. So hopefully between now and then you guys will have some questions. But look hopefully what I would hopefully to do for expedience and efficiency and effectiveness is that as you go through, email any of your comments to us, we'll address them. All of those comments we're [1:14:17, 1:14:31]: When we apply for our GOFA award, which I think will be the first time the city's actually gotten one and if we get it this year, we're gonna apply. We wanna put all the city councils comments as an appendix in that application, in our document. [1:14:31, 1:14:40]: Right, so they will see that council was involved in the process and they'll have someone to see where those questions were that you guys have. But that'll help us get through the process. Our goal is [1:14:41, 1:15:01]: for council to have the first read of the budget um on November twenty ninth. We'll have the first read of our budget and then the second read of the budget December twelfth and the adoption of the budget and then we just go forward. So my goal is hopefully we're not at the last minute as I saw as a as a resident last year where we were [1:15:01, 1:15:03]: We were switching numbers at the last eight. [1:15:04, 1:15:18]: It's not a really good good view when you're doing that. So hopefully over the next two and a half months you guys will give us all your questions. We'll make any amendments necessary. And then hopefully walk out with a budget with a balanced budget adopted December twelfth. [1:15:19, 1:15:39]: All right, so what I understand and this is the introduction to this. This is the introduction, higher level over overview for you guys. This uh the PowerPoint is included in in your pocket with the budget. So any questions you guys have as of today, just send them to us, we'll answer them and we'll keep track of those questions those answers as we go with the dates. [1:15:39, 1:15:59]: And at the end, when we put together the GOFA budget, which is going to be a little bit more expansive than this, you will actually have, we'll talk a little bit more about the demographics of the city, which will look at incomes, housing costs, a lot of that other stuff the GOFA wants to see what's going on. Not only will that [1:15:59, 1:16:02]: help us with a GOFA award but actually when we [1:16:03, 1:16:13]: look to go and apply for a bond rating so we'll know exactly what the city's creditworthiness is, right? What our score is. And mind you, you might get a score double A. [1:16:14, 1:16:19]: One or two, that doesn't mean within a year or two, if we do some things, they'll move us up. [1:16:20, 1:16:40]: to a triple A rating. Um but definitely to apply for a bond rating for the city. I think it's high time that the city does that because as we move forward on some other major projects, that bond rating determines what our creditworthiness is going to be and what interest we pay on any future debts that we may have. As well as you know making sure [1:16:40, 1:17:00]: we keep some props some capital projects going. So this was just a presentation, a high level overview for you guys tonight. We'll be back at it again on the 25th to take any questions you might as generate it between now and then and then obviously keep it moving until we have a satisfactory document that everybody feel comfortable with and we can move forward with FY23. [1:16:59, 1:17:00]: January one. [1:17:01, 1:17:03]: All right, sir. Thank you for the presentation. [1:17:05, 1:17:06]: Just briefly. [1:17:06, 1:17:26]: If you would, and for us um for the general public to understand how aggressive the city how fast the city is growing in terms of economic development over the last few years, economic development has has accelerated and has actually pushed our revenue up. And then uh on the other side of that. [1:17:26, 1:17:46]: That we are pursuing every available federal dollar uh that's on the table, the infrastructure money, the uh and we have a dedicated grants person. Could you talk about that a little bit? So folks can understand that we're going after dollars in for the city. Yes. So in terms of an outside from a lot of uh [1:17:46, 1:18:06]: And from a grant standpoint, we are tapping every federal resource that we have out there in terms of what we can qualify for as a city of our size. Um we're looking at them especially to help around operations. I will tell you the biggest area where we're where we seek seek to see some gains is gonna be around public safety because as you know that's been a huge [1:18:06, 1:18:26]: If you haven't been paying attention to some of the ads that's been going on for the upcoming election, crime is a big deal. And I think that there's been funds put out there to help us. Obviously, we some of it is very competitive, which we have to apply for. But that's gonna help us a a big deal around um additional resources for public safety. But all not also public [1:18:26, 1:18:28]: public safety but also around public [1:18:29, 1:18:49]: um public works. So there's a lot of infrastructure monies out there that we're looking at and going after. One of them is being the bridge project and we've worked closely with GDOT and they felt strongly that the application that we submit will be s will be funded by the administration to give us the opportunity to go through the planning process. [1:18:49, 1:19:09]: Once that done, that document can then be used to actually put for implementation, which is construction of the bridge. The w pedestrian bridge, let me say that. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, go ahead, Ms. Gan, I'm sorry. You mentioned some of the grants. We hired someone this year in regards to grants. Are they managing the grants or are they going [1:19:09, 1:19:29]: Or writing or going after the grants and writing and applying for those grants. So until we they will be managing the grants as we get them in uh uh in conjunction with the departments, because obviously the departments will be the ones implementing, but they're also making sure that we're writing policies because that's one number one. We didn't have any grant policies. So [1:19:29, 1:19:49]: She's had to develop a lot of those policies and some of them is on the agenda tonight. One of them on the agenda tonight. Where we talk about, you know, how we do certain things based on the grants that we get, whether they come with federal requirements, because as you know, federal grants come with a lot of requirements, and we've got to adhere to those. But just having grant policies, so I know she's done a lot of that, but she's also [1:19:49, 1:20:09]: Work in conjunction with Public Works and the police department around getting them grants that we and you guys send to us. She's already in that pipeline looking at those and making sure that we qualify for those and applying for those in conjunction with the departments because it's not a one-person. A grant person doesn't write grants by themselves, they write grants in [1:20:08, 1:20:16]: In conjunction with the department in which they're working with, because they're the source of the information that she would need to make those happen. And that's a good thing. [1:20:17, 1:20:18]: Thank you. You're welcome. [1:20:19, 1:20:23]: Any other questions quickly for this or Miss Barber, you have anything in r right now? [1:20:24, 1:20:28]: Okay, all right. Thank you, Mr. Gardner. Appreciate it. All right, good deal. [1:20:30, 1:20:50]: Council consideration to approve change order from the summit construction for amphitheater parking lot improvements on North Lee Street. Original amount uh was$108,554, adjusted to$750,007 and 81 cents with a savings of$51,500. [1:20:50, 1:21:02]: $146.19. Funding source is from SPLOS, presented by Mr. Aaron and Skip Layton on this. Thank you, gentlemen. Please. [1:21:03, 1:21:03]: Number one. [1:21:05, 1:21:06]: Let's go on here. [1:21:13, 1:21:28]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. During uh last month work session, uh Falcon Design reviewed the proposed change order and realized there was a possible chance for some savings. So tonight Mr. Skip Layton is here to present that information. [1:21:30, 1:21:31]: Thank you, Dacius. [1:21:31, 1:21:48]: Mayor, Council. As we stated, uh and I do want you to understand that before that came to you originally, we had already discussed these uh issues with the contractor several times. That was the best number we could get at that time, but we were continuing to work. Uh [1:21:48, 1:21:55]: He has now given us a complete breakdown of all his costs associated with the ones we thought had a little uh fat in them. [1:21:56, 1:22:16]: Excuse me. And uh that out of that we did uh were able to trim fifty one thousand five hundred and forty six dollars and nineteen cents. And we feel that uh this is a fair and equitable uh change order at this time for just over the three quarter million to do the uh parking lots and the improvements. [1:22:16, 1:22:21]: uh to uh Lee Street all the way to Bryant and coming into the amphitheater entranceway. [1:22:23, 1:22:27]: Okay. Any questions, Council, for Mr. Leighton or Deus? [1:22:29, 1:22:49]: Yeah, yeah, go right, please. I just wanna thank you guys for going back and getting that skimmed for us and making sure that we got the answers that we needed. Um I appreciate Adam actually speaking to that um at the last meeting. So fifty one thousand it is is to me a big deal. Oh yeah and so it's uh great savings and I I would like to [1:22:49, 1:22:51]: To make a motion to approve. [1:22:51, 1:23:11]: Okay, is there a second to the motion? Second. Okay, good any further discussion? If not all I would like to ask a question. Okay, go ahead. So what's the timetable look like in terms of us uh uh moving these forward? Uh and then Mr. Aaron, if you could give us a update for the public uh point of view on East Atlanta, uh what [1:23:11, 1:23:31]: What does that look like moving these projects forward? Well we'll put together the change order immediately if the council approves and uh give it to the contractor for execution. The city has to execute it and then we expect them to go to work on these right away. They're as you know, they're still being sorta held up by Georgia Power on uh [1:23:31, 1:23:42]: uh Lee and East Atlanta. Uh we have all the easements, but we don't have the easements, if that makes any sense. Uh the last easement that was needed was the uh First Baptist Church. [1:23:43, 1:24:03]: The attorney, uh Miss uh Angie Robinson, had gotten that easement, but Georgia Power needed an easement from the same people. So uh in an effort to try and speed the process up, she had us revisit our exhibits and include Georgia Power into those, and she went back to have negotiations with the [1:24:03, 1:24:11]: with them to try and get, you know, it all under one umbrella. We don't know where the status is on that right now. If we should hear something in the next week or so. [1:24:12, 1:24:13]: Mm-hmm. [1:24:13, 1:24:14]: Thank you. [1:24:14, 1:24:21]: Motion's been made by second. All favor of motion, please indicate. Thank you. Congratulate. Thank you, gentlemen. All right. Thank you, Council. [1:24:23, 1:24:30]: Council consideration to amend amphitheater policy to create a non-compete clause for private events and concerts. [1:24:31, 1:24:39]: Concerts and provide uh for revenue sharing uh for profit events. For profit events. Mr. Gardner, please. [1:24:41, 1:24:41]: Mm. [1:24:47, 1:25:07]: I I apologize for messing up the the the danger bell that bad. Um hopefully the city clerk could help me out fix it. All right, um mayor council, um obviously we brought this to you guys earlier this summer to move forward on a comprehensive policy for the use of the amphitheater. [1:25:07, 1:25:15]: And one of the areas where we realized that we potentially had a conflict as it relates to potential c competition. [1:25:15, 1:25:35]: Um with the city and its cities venue management um around the use of the amphitheater um came came to a head. Um thank you that obviously that deal did not go through, but we have made some amendments um to the document on page five. [1:25:35, 1:25:42]: If you can find that, and it's around the cost per hour for the use of the amphitheater. [1:25:43, 1:25:50]: Uh the cost and at the bottom under commerci under commercial and for profit events. [1:25:52, 1:26:06]: And that the Incle has reviewed these and felt comfortable with'em. But we also made another amendment in there that if we do have a concert that not only do we get the ten thousand, but we get the ten thousand plus twenty percent. Um so in that first um [1:26:07, 1:26:17]: bullet point where it says open to public where the primary objective is making a profit. We put in there, however, no commercial [1:26:17, 1:26:19]: All for profit event. [1:26:20, 1:26:33]: All concert shall be allowed in the amphitheater. That means that we're not allowing any commercial any other entity, like another promotion company that could come in and want to bring a slate of of uh artists to the amphitheater. [1:26:33, 1:26:46]: Whereby paying us ten thousand dollars and then walking out of the door with potentially a hundred to two hundred thousand in profits at the gate,'cause they'll be controlling the fee at that point. That won't happen, um, under this provision. [1:26:49, 1:27:00]: And where we do have a fork bushel project that's other than a competing type concert that they charge, we will get a share of the box at twenty percent. They'll take eighty. [1:27:01, 1:27:02]: Plus to ten thousand. [1:27:03, 1:27:03]: that we would get in home. [1:27:04, 1:27:06]: Yes, ma'am. All right, Ms. Gantt do you have a question? [1:27:06, 1:27:07]: I do. [1:27:07, 1:27:08]: Okay. [1:27:10, 1:27:17]: So are you saying that this purpose is for non profit? Because I said for profit. Okay. For profit. But [1:27:17, 1:27:20]: It says in red, having no commercial for profit event. [1:27:21, 1:27:36]: Or concerts shall be allowed in the amphitheater. So we're making sure that I wanna be clear that no other entity can have concerts here. No, we're not allowed for any promotion, any and it typically when they do it it would be a [1:27:37, 1:27:39]: Let's say a third party promoter. [1:27:39, 1:27:45]: that comes in with a slate of artists, you know, Ford, Gantt, Alexander Barber that's gonna come in. [1:27:46, 1:27:51]: And they're gonna rent it from us under the old provision, they would have paid us ten thousand dollars, rented the amphitheater. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: Go out there promote it. [1:27:53, 1:28:02]: And then they could have potentially made two hundred, three hundred thousand dollars in profit. We only made ten and they could have competed or locked out potential artists that we were looking to get. [1:28:03, 1:28:16]: Um that won't happen under this. We won't lease it to anybody who's doing a for profit, a for profit promoter coming in to r to release the amphitheater would not be able to do that under this provision. I understand that your example [1:28:16, 1:28:17]: But [1:28:17, 1:28:22]: Based off of what you're saying, it sounds like we're still allowing for other [1:28:22, 1:28:28]: Entities to have concerts here. Not not concerts. So let's say I wanted to come in and do a play. [1:28:29, 1:28:31]: And I wanted to charge for a plea. [1:28:31, 1:28:37]: That's not a concert. So we would uh so Bell Ethnic if you're familiar with Bell Ethnic. And then we would split the profits on that. [1:28:37, 1:28:45]: So benefic so they come in and they want to do the nutcrocker and some other stuff during Christmas. Correct. Right? Whatever they char we they release it from us for ten. [1:28:46, 1:28:48]: Right. And then whatever their ticket box is. [1:28:48, 1:28:53]: Whatever they make, we get ten percent of our ticket box. They did d twenty percent, they get eighty. [1:28:53, 1:28:54]: Okay. [1:28:56, 1:28:56]: Okay. [1:28:57, 1:29:00]: Any other questions? Ms. Uh Ms. Barber, go ahead please. [1:29:01, 1:29:05]: I'm not sure I understand. Help me. Um [1:29:05, 1:29:08]: So if someone wanted to do a comedy show. [1:29:08, 1:29:08]: Okay. [1:29:09, 1:29:13]: Same thing. So if they want to do a comedy show, which is naughty, [1:29:14, 1:29:29]: concert that competes against whoever our venue person is or us are doing a concert, which you ours are typically free. When we host them, they're free. But our venue person that's overseeing the amphitheater, if he brings in some acts, [1:29:29, 1:29:42]: Obviously because he's not doing comedy, that will be a non that that's not a competitive issue. So they will be able to allow to lease the amphitheater at ten thousand dollars and give us twenty percent of whatever the box. So let's say they brought in [1:29:44, 1:29:45]: Ricky smiley. [1:29:45, 1:29:46]: Right. [1:29:46, 1:29:49]: And a Ricky Smiley comes in and do a concert. [1:29:49, 1:29:52]: And it's done by somebody else or Ricky Smiley promotions. [1:29:53, 1:29:53]: Right. [1:29:53, 1:29:55]: Ricky Lepeyos ten. [1:29:56, 1:30:00]: thousand to use it and then give us twenty percent of whatever that box fee would be. [1:30:00, 1:30:11]: 'Cause he's not a concert, he's not an a uh performing act per se, in terms of a concert, because that's where our venue management releases for act, recording artists. [1:30:12, 1:30:13]: Which is different from a comedy show. [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: Different from a biasia. [1:30:16, 1:30:17]: So they would be able to do it. [1:30:22, 1:30:31]: So a comedy show starring Ricky Ricky Smiley? Yes. A third party promoter promoting Ort Ren and Fire? No. [1:30:34, 1:30:34]: See the difference? [1:30:36, 1:30:40]: So what if someone wanted to do a co gospel concert then? [1:30:40, 1:30:42]: They want to do a gospel concert. [1:30:42, 1:30:44]: And they have connections. [1:30:45, 1:30:47]: of artists to do the gospel concert. [1:30:47, 1:30:56]: If that if if they're doing it for profit and it is competitive against what what our venue manager is doing, no. That's considered a concert, that's a no no. [1:31:00, 1:31:02]: So there's no way for us to [1:31:02, 1:31:19]: Partner or And here's why. I mean if if our venue person is bringing in a gospel or a couple of gossip black under the next year series, we wouldn't want someone competing against him and w um competing against us. So hence the answer to that would be no. [1:31:21, 1:31:24]: Because that could potentially be a third party R and B [1:31:25, 1:31:27]: Productions, bringing on [1:31:28, 1:31:48]: Mary Mary and um I I don't really listen to gospel music I couldn't tell you. But you can But they could partner with the city of Stockbridge. Now if they're partnering with the city of Stockbridge, that's a different issue. Okay. Yeah. That's a different this is this is dealing solely for any for profit event. Okay, not city. [1:31:48, 1:31:56]: In conjunction with RB to bring in Kirk Franklin and Merritt. That's a whole different ballgame. Gotcha. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [1:31:57, 1:32:17]: Go ahead, sir. You did? Yeah, okay, for clarification, we've had fraternities and sorority, which are non-profits, they're not profit. They might hold a fundraiser. I think we had us sorority hold a fund table with Anthony David for example. So how would that um work? [1:32:17, 1:32:37]: under this where they would be able to come in, they would hold their fundraiser as a nonprofit with uh with an artist because that has happened here. So they they would fall up underneath that category at the top of the page if they're non profit uh non profit benefit concert, they'll fall underneath that category. I'm sorry, I don't have Tom what it what are the terms on that again? [1:32:37, 1:32:41]: Twenty five hundred. So it's on the city. [1:32:42, 1:32:48]: So on page five. Okay. So on page five of the uh agenda item number eight. [1:32:54, 1:33:03]: Okay, so so there's no matching percentage for them. No. And that could potentially be a concert. [1:33:04, 1:33:06]: Um no [1:33:06, 1:33:10]: If they're if they're not charging anybody to get in [1:33:10, 1:33:30]: That's not considered a a for profit event. So it's like the city hosting an event. If they come in and they want to do a free event, they're allowed to do that. If they want to do a for profit concert to bring in artists, they're not allowed, even if they're not profitable. But but there's a difference. See you can hold a fundraiser and you can charge [1:33:30, 1:33:50]: for the fundraiser, but it's not going to profit with non profit organizations. It's going to fundraising. It's not for profit. Right. So I'm not going to be able to do under the legal lease they are five oh one C three or what have you. So the sororities and fraternities are five oh one C three. So under this they would pay that flat two hundred and [1:33:50, 1:33:55]: uh twenty five hundred but we won't get a share of any of any of the proceeds. [1:33:55, 1:33:57]: But will they be able to charge admission? [1:33:58, 1:33:59]: Well [1:33:59, 1:34:02]: I mean, that's how they're gonna make their money, is they're gonna have to charge mission. [1:34:04, 1:34:23]: But again, again, the the definition that you're using of for profit is not necessarily inconcise with what a non profit is, because we non profits hold fundraisers where they charge for admittance all the time. Right. So under under under bullet point number four, you see where it says admission or entry fee may be charged? [1:34:23, 1:34:24]: So they're allowed to charge. [1:34:26, 1:34:42]: If they're not if they're doing it as a benefit event and they're not walking off of the with the proceeds. Okay, so okay. So they would be able to charge. They can charge, yes. Okay. Okay. And I and and I will tell you we will always wanna make sure that whatever they're doing is not in competition with us'cause if it is, then we won't let'em. [1:34:42, 1:34:45]: 'Cause our goal is not to compete against ourselves. [1:34:46, 1:34:47]: Certainly. Yep. [1:34:48, 1:34:57]: If it's a are you saying that non profits can have concerts? I mean they might. I mean they might wanna like she said they might wanna do let's say [1:34:57, 1:35:01]: A church wanna do a gospel thing, but it's going towards [1:35:01, 1:35:08]: Hinds of hope hands of hope. There is one hundred percent is going to a charity, then it's not for a profit event. [1:35:09, 1:35:13]: As long as they're not competing against any of our artists or locking out any of our potential artists. [1:35:14, 1:35:15]: They should be fine. [1:35:16, 1:35:25]: How do you measure that though? How would you be because when they apply as part of the application, they need to let us know what they're doing in the application? [1:35:25, 1:35:27]: And we get to review that application and say yay or nay. [1:35:28, 1:35:29]: So [1:35:30, 1:35:32]: I probably would much rather [1:35:33, 1:35:37]: To me it's still gonna be a little messy. I would prefer [1:35:38, 1:35:47]: in general, if it's a if it's a any type of concert, they would have anybody would have to partner with Startbridge. If it was a concert [1:35:47, 1:36:05]: If there's somebody that wanted to do a concert, I feel like they would have to partner with Stockbridge. I don't think I think it would be a little cloudy and uh, you know, messy trying to determine, okay, this artist uh hey, Stockbridge, are we doing this artist? No. [1:36:05, 1:36:10]: You have to if you want to have any type of concert, you're gonna partner with Stockbridge. [1:36:11, 1:36:28]: And the other type of shows and acts and balls or whatever, like uh my sorority, we do wine tasting event or whatever that case may be. We might have a now we don't do that anymore. But they are interested, I know. Mm aka's by the way. And um [1:36:30, 1:36:35]: You know, for scholarships or whatever the case may be, then fine, so be it. But if it's a concert [1:36:36, 1:36:37]: Then they have to partner. [1:36:38, 1:36:39]: With Stockbridge. [1:36:40, 1:36:41]: But the [1:36:41, 1:36:43]: I just think that makes sense. [1:36:44, 1:37:04]: The the reason that I say that is because we actually had that happen where a provider came to us, one of the sororities, then they ended up going to McDonough because they we didn't have that option available to them. Where they had I mean, the profit margin for them was very slim. So they really if they split the profit they really weren't gonna be making any money. So [1:37:04, 1:37:24]: i these margins are very slim. So I it was a special situation where they came to us, they went I want to call them the f the sorority out, but they did uh come to us and then there was a profit arrangement and there was w they they weren't able to work that out. Yeah. I get it. And and and mind you, I mean [1:37:24, 1:37:36]: you're we're not gonna write something to gonna catch every potential issue, but to address what you were saying as it relates to a nonprofit benefit event, um, any mus any musical event. [1:37:36, 1:37:40]: Tell me what you think about this. Any musical event shall require a partnership [1:37:40, 1:37:43]: Um an approval by the city of Stockbridge. [1:37:43, 1:37:47]: Correct. We could put that billet point in there. That would aunt that would address what you just mentioned. [1:37:47, 1:37:48]: Councilmember Gamer. [1:37:49, 1:37:51]: Yes. So we'll make we'll make that we'll make that note. [1:37:54, 1:38:04]: Yes, ma'am. Um any mus any mu uh I should say any musical event shall require a partnership and agreement with the city of of Stockbridge. [1:38:04, 1:38:04]: Correct. [1:38:07, 1:38:17]: So you got you guys get the they get to come before you tell you tell us exactly what they wanna do and partnership with us and what that partnership would look like. You guys get to approve those that come before you. [1:38:17, 1:38:25]: Okay. In terms of that. So that's that way it's not left up to staff to determine whether that's a good or bad partnership to get you guys get to vet it. [1:38:28, 1:38:29]: Any other comments? [1:38:29, 1:38:40]: So I was am I assuming I'm sorry, you got no comment? Yeah, I am curious about the expenses. Um, so for even the non profits that wanna do like a a play. [1:38:41, 1:38:43]: The expenses um [1:38:43, 1:38:46]: Sounds, lighting, chairs, tables. [1:38:46, 1:38:47]: Um [1:38:48, 1:38:53]: That is included in this rental agreement. [1:38:53, 1:38:55]: Bullet point. [1:38:57, 1:39:09]: Under bullet point seven, the second to the last, any cost for services provided by and incurred by the city of Stockbridge for the operations of the event must be paid. [1:39:10, 1:39:17]: So we have to do any any special consideration, lights, all of that. They gotta pay us to do it. They pay for it, not us. [1:39:18, 1:39:36]: Um so does all events require security? Yes. As well. That's in here as well. Yes, ma'am. All events require insurance. If you liability insurance. Okay, so if you turn over to page number six. [1:39:38, 1:39:42]: It lays out um the coordinated services. [1:39:46, 1:39:55]: And in there it lays out um paid details um for um public safety in there. [1:39:56, 1:39:57]: And [1:40:02, 1:40:15]: There's another provision in there that based on the number of hours with those what based on the size of the event, there's another pro portion in the con in the agre in the policy that based on the size of the event will dictate how much public safety officials you need. [1:40:15, 1:40:20]: So the larger the event, the more public safety officials you need to pay for to be at that event. [1:40:21, 1:40:24]: Well I'm seeing here, um, it says [1:40:25, 1:40:25]: Um [1:40:26, 1:40:34]: Certain services shall be provided by the city or its authorized agents, with the agent, with the applicant reimbursing the city. [1:40:36, 1:40:40]: I don't think it's a good idea for us to pay up front costs. [1:40:40, 1:40:41]: For [1:40:41, 1:40:45]: any entity that wants to rent the amphitheater. [1:40:45, 1:40:49]: It is their responsibility to provide for [1:40:49, 1:40:51]: All these services up front. [1:40:54, 1:40:54]: Agree. [1:40:57, 1:41:05]: Whether they pay a deposit that will cover the cost of janitorial concessions. [1:41:05, 1:41:06]: Security. [1:41:07, 1:41:08]: We shouldn't [1:41:09, 1:41:12]: Bear the burden of paying the cost up front. [1:41:13, 1:41:13]: That is on. [1:41:14, 1:41:17]: That's the responsibility of the person who's renting it. [1:41:17, 1:41:21]: That's just my thought. Well and and I think it it [1:41:22, 1:41:42]: Just saying, you know, that's certain certain things we'll do that for. So in essence, like with the one we just did just now, where we made the amendment for a partnership. Well in that circumstances, yes, we might do the upfront course on certain things on lighting and sound if we're in partnership and you guys agree to it, then that would meet the requirement. [1:41:42, 1:41:47]: 'Cause it it it's it's kind of open ended to allow for us to be able to look at because it says um [1:41:50, 1:41:51]: Where was that again? [1:41:54, 1:42:14]: It says um to best serve our guests and to maintain continu um integrity of the amplitude, it is the policy of the city that certain services shall be provided by the city or its authorized agent with the applicant reimbursing a city fall cost. So certain these is open to say if it's [1:42:14, 1:42:29]: It's a partnership or something to that effect, then we could look at that and say whether or not we would do those costs. Otherwise typically they'll put they'll be paying for them in reimbursing. [1:42:29, 1:42:32]: Пиказ івенфорправит івент. [1:42:32, 1:42:33]: I don't want [1:42:34, 1:42:37]: those who may be interested in renting the amphitheater. [1:42:37, 1:42:40]: To assume the city will pay for the cost of [1:42:40, 1:42:41]: Clean up and [1:42:42, 1:42:44]: Tables and chairs. On page three. [1:42:45, 1:42:49]: Page three. Yep, top page uh and top um B. [1:42:53, 1:43:13]: Says applicants shall pay for talent, sound lights, stage hands, publicity, advertisement, backstage catering, events, security, medical services, ASCAP, BMI, transportation, trash removal, equipment to include a bucket lift, portable lighting, fencing, and barricades, telephones, events, maintenance, crowd sanitation, runners, personnel and services necessary for the efficient and safe. [1:43:13, 1:43:19]: presentation of events at the amphitheater. But I guess, and I I agree with Councilwoman Barber. [1:43:19, 1:43:35]: We need to make sure it's consistent. I don't I don't think uh yeah. I think that, you know, that can be confusing. What if there's something else that needs to be added in? Why don't we include what our rental is on our side? So I would prefer to say [1:43:36, 1:43:42]: Something like your rental includes the amphitheater, everything else is on you. [1:43:43, 1:43:52]: Uh uh a coup the point that I want to make. I mean if that's what we're gonna do. That's what I'm saying. If that's what's included. If it's if we include if we're including [1:43:52, 1:44:01]: as part of their rental agreement, other additional services, fine. But it needs to be spelled out in that manner. Yes. And I think that it would be um [1:44:02, 1:44:03]: Um [1:44:03, 1:44:11]: I I think it would be advantageous for us to do it in that way because we're showing what services we provide versus what services they're responsible for. [1:44:11, 1:44:12]: I agree. [1:44:15, 1:44:35]: Sir. Go right ahead, please. The only concern that I have with that is that do we just want Fortune five hundred companies coming in or large companies? What about a small business that wants to get started? You're putting the money up front so they can pay you back through the ticket sales. If you do not do that, then you're gonna limit it to [1:44:35, 1:44:55]: deep pocketed individuals or or businesses that can come in and do this, but the small business person is gonna be cut out because they can't they don't have the upfront capital in order to do all these expenditures. They count on the money to come back on the back end. So what you're doing is uh how a business [1:44:54, 1:45:02]: Would operate, you're gonna exclude a lot of small businesses because they're not gonna have upfront capital to do what you're asking them to do. [1:45:03, 1:45:11]: I understand. Go right ahead, please. I understand that, but so then perhaps um [1:45:11, 1:45:31]: They just don't have the financial wherewithal to put on a concert if they can't bear the burden of the cost of the expenses. Well it's not just gonna be just a concert. It's gonna be a lot of these events where they're gonna need to bring in the ticket revenue to reimburse the city, otherwise they're not gonna be able to do the event. But so for some of those entities that want to host [1:45:31, 1:45:32]: Stay. [1:45:32, 1:45:34]: show concert. [1:45:35, 1:45:36]: Whatever it may be. [1:45:36, 1:45:37]: Mm-hmm. [1:45:37, 1:45:39]: Even if it's a non profit. [1:45:40, 1:45:42]: Who's not selling tickets? [1:45:43, 1:45:49]: I don't want them to assume that the city is going to bear the cost. Oh no, oh no, they w we will [1:45:49, 1:45:52]: For security, for lighting. [1:45:52, 1:46:01]: We're not going to do that. Well I'm not we want our money back. But certainly we want the money back. No, I don't want to put any money up front. [1:46:01, 1:46:21]: At all. But again, as I said, if you don't do that, you're cutting out the small business person. They're not gonna be able they don't have that type of upfront capital in order to make that happen. That would be my concern. Right, but it the language that he said it was [1:46:21, 1:46:41]: Especially it would be well read the language again that's in there. Which one you said it would be a s diff circumstances or something you said? Um and and remember even under B, um it it says shall. So there isn't a shall is a i is a action that says you there is no ambiguity with the word shall. [1:46:41, 1:46:42]: Shaw means you will. [1:46:43, 1:46:52]: It doesn't say you might have to pay f have to shall y it doesn't say applicant might pay for talent so fort lights, all of that. It says they shall pay for those. [1:46:53, 1:47:03]: um if they use it in the venue. Um as it relates to it the section ten, coordination of services, um, it says here to best serve [1:47:03, 1:47:09]: to best serve its guests and to maintain the integrity of the amphitheater ump the amphitheater facility. [1:47:10, 1:47:28]: it is the policy of the city city of Stockbridge that certain services shall be provided by the city or its authorized agent, with the applicant reimbursing the city for all costs associated with the provisions of such services. So [1:47:29, 1:47:37]: You know, that that is that allows for in a simple case there where we could do something to help that small business or whatever. [1:47:38, 1:47:42]: You know, i it it gives some some leeway of discretion, but then again [1:47:43, 1:47:48]: You know. I don't like that at all. I think it's a conflict with B. I I actually think that [1:47:49, 1:47:50]: What we would do is [1:47:51, 1:47:51]: Um [1:47:51, 1:47:52]: Councilman Alexander. [1:47:53, 1:48:03]: Sounds like they would want to be in a partnership again because I'm not willing. I haven't met there is not one venue, a ballroom or anywhere where you go and they say [1:48:04, 1:48:17]: Oh, you know what, we're gonna take care of this for you and we'll see whether or not you're gonna get some we'll we don't know if your chick what your ticket sales are and we'll get your money back. No, you don't do that. You uh never have I seen or have I rented anything. [1:48:18, 1:48:19]: And they say [1:48:20, 1:48:32]: Okay. Y you're responsible for cleanup, but I tell you what, since you don't have the money, we're gonna go ahead and clean it up and when you get your money you pay us back. No saying out of ticket sales that night. Yeah, but I'm saying you don't [1:48:33, 1:48:34]: The amphitheater. [1:48:34, 1:48:38]: To me, and this may be different for everyone else. [1:48:39, 1:48:59]: We invested twenty-five million dollars in a state of art building. Mm-hmm. I think that it deserves the class and respect and eliteness that it deserves. Now that does not mean what I'm saying is But a small business purpose should never be cut out. I'm not trying to cut out a small business person. [1:48:59, 1:49:19]: They may not need lights. They may not need sec what but if you can't afford to pay for to be cleaned up, then you don't need to be here because this is not that place. Go to the Mermanders. I'm sorry, you this is you have to have certain limits. The amphitheater is huge, it sees 3,500 people. If you can feel that [1:49:19, 1:49:32]: place with 3500 people, then you can pay for these amenity the things that are required to do it. I have you have to be strategic about it. I can't support otherwise because you look at it. [1:49:33, 1:49:33]: Here. [1:49:34, 1:49:54]: There will the nonprofit is paying twenty five hundred dollars. Mm-hmm. If they have a fundraiser, let's say they rented the green room, they had a fundraiser, or they rented out the front part up here and they twenty five hundred dollars. All they need is security. They're not having the just like that event the other day, um, with the chamber. [1:49:54, 1:50:01]: And all of the above. That's we're not gonna pay for it and then say it'll pay us back. We're not in the m business of lending money. [1:50:01, 1:50:21]: I'm not saying any of that. What I'm saying to you is that all you're doing basically you can you're eliminating the small business person. There's no nonprofit in this area gonna be able to use the amphitheater. Not one. I'm a small business. I can't afford the amphitheater right now. And guess what? It's okay. It's okay, cause I'm gonna do what I gotta do for I will [1:50:21, 1:50:32]: I would love to do that for my business, but you cannot do that. It's unreasonable. Mr. Gardner, you have something you need to answer? Ready? Let me know what you're what you guys think. So [1:50:33, 1:50:37]: First remember I think uh the the last sentence in there says services may [1:50:38, 1:50:38]: Include [1:50:39, 1:50:59]: Um but not limited to the following. So obviously if we don't want to put lighting in there, then we need to get rid of the not limited and it shall include only these services that we would would assist on, right? So lighting and sound goes out the door because those are probably the most expensive side of the house. Right? So it takes that option off the table. We can also make an amendment. [1:50:59, 1:51:06]: Where it says to the best to best service guests and to maintain the integrity of the amphitheater facilities. [1:51:07, 1:51:09]: It is the policy of the city of Stockbridge. [1:51:10, 1:51:14]: That when in partnership with a non profit entity. [1:51:14, 1:51:34]: Um, these services shall be provided by the city or its authorized agent in conjunction, I mean with the applicant reimbursing the city for all costs associated. So, once again, that's something that would come before this body to look at and approve, nothing administrative, because any partnership has [1:51:34, 1:51:41]: has to be approved by council. Pardon. So that would give you guys an opportunity to review and make the exceptions. [1:51:42, 1:51:48]: Okay. That could be for a partnership. I could get that. But what I do not it sounds like to me [1:51:48, 1:51:52]: You know, uh if you go to a hotel room and you say, Hey [1:51:53, 1:52:05]: You broke the T V. Your kids were bad. They knocked'em down. Then guess what? You're gonna have to pay that back. So that's what the clause is really supposed to say. It's not saying it correctly, but that's what it's supposed to say. [1:52:06, 1:52:10]: Um basically if you tear up something, you're gonna be responsible for it. [1:52:10, 1:52:15]: That's it. But I think that I get what you're saying in regards to I think [1:52:16, 1:52:20]: When you say, Oh, would you be responsible for paying for lighting or something of that nature? [1:52:20, 1:52:22]: I don't think you have to take out that. I think that [1:52:23, 1:52:43]: What we're saying is it only applies to the partnerships. Correct. And and that's something that's approved by this council. Okay. So that's what it takes. So that takes it wholly out of the administrative review. It comes any partnership comes to you. So they are asking for any exceptions. You guys get to look at it and say yes or no, or we could do or we can't. [1:52:43, 1:52:50]: That's fair enough. And that'll be part of the negotiation box. Alright. So otherwise you [1:52:50, 1:52:53]: You were gonna t change Mr. Gardner? [1:52:54, 1:52:56]: You can make it you're making those appropriate [1:52:59, 1:53:05]: Um that's being inserted right after this policy of the city of Stockbridge. [1:53:08, 1:53:10]: Page number six, number ten. [1:53:11, 1:53:12]: Yes, ma'am. [1:53:14, 1:53:22]: So you're making those particular changes, so Yeah, we'll make those we'll make those and go for it once adopted with those. But how many total changes have we made today? [1:53:22, 1:53:26]: Uh section ten, as amended in section ten. [1:53:34, 1:53:36]: Yeah. [1:53:37, 1:53:38]: From the oath. [1:53:46, 1:53:50]: Page five, non profit benefit events, non concert. [1:53:52, 1:53:55]: Coach number it's just a partnership. [1:53:56, 1:54:03]: Yes. And then page number five. Under non profit. That's where we made an amendment. [1:54:07, 1:54:15]: Yes. Goes there and then everything else stays the same. I want to make sure that whatever we agreed to [1:54:15, 1:54:27]: You understand, Mr. Gardner, for the change and the clerk has that properly. Cause my assumption is if that's the case, then we're gonna have a motion to accept this particular change. These changes. Is that correct? Yeah. [1:54:32, 1:54:34]: So y so there's change on page five. [1:54:35, 1:54:38]: under non under non profit benefit events. [1:54:39, 1:54:44]: And then there's a change on page number three. [1:54:48, 1:54:49]: Oh, what was that? Nope. [1:54:58, 1:55:05]: On page number six, section ten, coordination of services, exclusive services. [1:55:14, 1:55:22]: Yeah. And um Mr. Lander, um Councilmember Lander, page nine lays out the liability. [1:55:24, 1:55:26]: А стов концерн реберси. [1:55:27, 1:55:29]: The city for services. [1:55:29, 1:55:33]: Unless it's a partnership. That's that's the only time in in Vilha. [1:55:34, 1:55:51]: Okay. So we're gonna reword. Or we'll put that? Approve with notes. So then all we gotta do is change it and then update the update the website and uh print the documents. Okay. Are you asking us to approve this? Yes, ma'am. So yeah, so we can move forward. So yes, ma'am. [1:55:52, 1:55:55]: Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [1:55:56, 1:56:01]: No. No no no. I was just illustrating the the liability insurance requirements. [1:56:04, 1:56:06]: So if I got it right, it's only three changes we're making? [1:56:08, 1:56:08]: Two, sir. [1:56:09, 1:56:10]: Two. [1:56:11, 1:56:17]: All right. So we got two changes and the council is in agreement. So is there a motion on the floor to accept these changes? [1:56:19, 1:56:20]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [1:56:20, 1:56:24]: I move that we accept the changes with the um [1:56:25, 1:56:26]: In regards to the [1:56:26, 1:56:29]: Amphitheater con rental contract agreement. [1:56:30, 1:56:33]: To include those things that we amended. [1:56:33, 1:56:35]: One um [1:56:35, 1:56:38]: was that for non profits [1:56:38, 1:56:43]: If they want to have a concert, they would have to partner with the city of Stockbridge. [1:56:43, 1:56:47]: and all partnerships must come before Mayor and Council. For approval, [1:56:48, 1:56:50]: Okay, is there a second? [1:56:50, 1:56:52]: So [1:56:53, 1:56:53]: Um [1:56:55, 1:56:56]: So did you [1:56:57, 1:57:08]: To both of those conditions that we talked about? Yeah. Oh and all okay, that's right. And all I'm sorry, let me amend let me change that. All [1:57:08, 1:57:12]: may come all must come before any partnership. [1:57:14, 1:57:17]: must come before mayor and council for approval, [1:57:18, 1:57:22]: And that includ and and all partnerships [1:57:23, 1:57:27]: include the reimb well I don't think we have to do that because all partnerships include we don't have to do that. [1:57:28, 1:57:31]: [7051.9, 7053.8]: does not tie the city or [1:57:34, 1:57:35]: Include the city. [1:57:36, 1:57:36]: And any [1:57:37, 1:57:38]: Actions of [1:57:38, 1:57:42]: the applicant having to reimburse us for anything. [1:57:42, 1:57:48]: They should be able to pay for all those services up front. So if we could remove [1:57:48, 1:57:51]: That sentence reimbursing the city? [1:57:51, 1:58:04]: For all costs associated with such services. But that's what we had agreed upon is that it would be a partnership. But there were certain services excluding the lighting and all of that. But we need to remove [1:58:05, 1:58:25]: Well well we would add that it must be as a in order to in order for us to do something like that it have to be parts partnership. I don't know how we would change the wording, but it has to it has to state partnership and I get what you're saying, Councilman Robert. Um Do we have legal to help us? [1:58:25, 1:58:25]: That's what this. [1:58:28, 1:58:48]: We we're simply trying to help the And I I believe that uh Mr. Garner may have to come back to the podium as well to get this finalized if Mr Mr. Washington is coming forward to be responsible for upfront cost of any entity that wants use of the amphitheater. [1:58:48, 1:58:58]: I know what he said, but I'm reading this policy and I want to make sure that the language is consistent with what he's saying. Okay. [1:59:01, 1:59:07]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. I think the easiest way if you want to incorporate that comment is just to say that the city will not pay any upfront costs. [1:59:08, 1:59:09]: And then we'll reflect that in a document. [1:59:10, 1:59:11]: Thank you. Okay. [1:59:13, 1:59:14]: Is that acceptable for the rest of the council? [1:59:15, 1:59:16]: That's acceptable. [1:59:16, 1:59:20]: Okay, so uh so we know exactly where that's gonna be placed in the document? [1:59:22, 1:59:40]: And if that's the case, then I guess we need a motion to accept these particular changes. Revise the motion. My only question is we we got a spent we got an event already that we're working on that's gonna be rescheduled for next year. That includes reimbursable funds up front. So we're not gonna do the event. [1:59:41, 1:59:47]: That event needs to come back to this can be a little bit more than a little bit. [1:59:49, 1:59:50]: Well, um okay, I'm sorry. [1:59:53, 1:59:54]: So the city will not [1:59:56, 2:00:00]: The the applicant is responsible for any upfront cost. [2:00:02, 2:00:07]: unless or w unless the council approves otherwise. [2:00:09, 2:00:11]: Because it still has to come before council. [2:00:15, 2:00:25]: All right. Unless co council approves otherwise and that's for our partnerships. Uh I I'm okay with that, but in the end if there's no they're they're gonna cancel the concert if we don't. [2:00:25, 2:00:32]: But if that's the where we are. But if that's the desire of the council. It didn't Oh I d I'm not talking about that particular. That's not my desire. [2:00:32, 2:00:39]: I know, but that's that's the end result. No, I'm saying unless counsel states otherwise, we've already uh well, [2:00:42, 2:00:55]: I thought we've already had I thought th I think that's old. This is something new. This is our new policy. I think they're grandfathered in. Going forward. Right. Unless council approves it. So what I'm saying is [2:00:55, 2:01:08]: If someone needs to if they're gonna partner with us, we're gonna approve it and we may say, Okay, we got the lights, we got this, you handle this, you handle that. But otherwise w we can't that's the best way to do this, I think. [2:01:11, 2:01:14]: Mr Gardner, need you back at the podium, sir. [2:01:14, 2:01:15]: Yeah. [2:01:23, 2:01:32]: See if we can work out these details here that we're talking about. Make sure we got it proper on the document there and as as gathered by the by the uh [2:01:33, 2:01:42]: The clerk and the counsel is in agreement. Now you all had further discussion in reference to some verbiage. You gotta make sure we understand what the verbiage is and where it's going. [2:01:44, 2:01:46]: So let's let's see if we can nail this down. [2:01:50, 2:01:52]: So are we eliminating section ten? [2:01:54, 2:01:58]: 'Cause if you eliminated then you don't have any you don't have to worry about any coordinated services. [2:01:58, 2:02:00]: I would agree with that. [2:02:01, 2:02:03]: I would agree that we eliminate [2:02:03, 2:02:04]: Section ten. [2:02:05, 2:02:06]: All together. [2:02:08, 2:02:13]: What do we do about the existing agreement that we have? We just tear it up. We already have an agreement. [2:02:14, 2:02:16]: Everything at this point. [2:02:16, 2:02:18]: Going forward. [2:02:18, 2:02:20]: will fall under this policy. [2:02:20, 2:02:22]: I don't know what agreements were made. [2:02:22, 2:02:23]: with the existing [2:02:24, 2:02:24]: Even [2:02:25, 2:02:29]: It didn't come to this council. I'm talking about everything from this point. [2:02:29, 2:02:30]: Going forward. [2:02:30, 2:02:46]: The city shouldn't be paying upfront cost. But unless it's a partnership. Right. Well that's we we said it all we just made that that every event going forward is going to be a partnership. That we've agreed upon that. We're talking about a partnership. That's what we're talking about. [2:02:50, 2:03:06]: Every event going forward will be a partnership with the language uh as described to make to make sure that these uh there are some expenses that can be reimbursed, but as these as Councilwoman Gantt said, they would have to come back to us for any partnership anyway. [2:03:08, 2:03:09]: Is that correct? [2:03:10, 2:03:18]: Yes, that's correct. They have to come to us for our uh if we're having a partnership agreement, they would have to come to us and that's way we can work out the logistics of that. [2:03:18, 2:03:38]: Right. And any other events if if this if you eliminate this provision, then you don't have to worry about any other type events that come in that might say, hey, can y'all do XYZ? We say no because we don't have any requirements. Okay, let's move forward. Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion. Or Councilwoman Gat, your motion is still on the floor. [2:03:38, 2:03:42]: The motion that you you originally made was it seconded? Yeah. Or did you did you amend it? [2:03:43, 2:03:47]: Ms. Geth. I I amended it. Can you amend your motion? Sure. To eliminate [2:03:48, 2:03:49]: Number ten. [2:03:49, 2:03:53]: Of the policy. Okay. Look at that. [2:04:00, 2:04:00]: Okay. [2:04:03, 2:04:05]: I'm I can amend my motion to include that. [2:04:06, 2:04:07]: To eliminate that. [2:04:08, 2:04:21]: What's what's your motion now? What's your motion? So my motion now is to remove policy number ten I mean statement number ten, coordinate coordination of services, um, to add on page five [2:04:24, 2:04:33]: That under nonprofit biz benefit events, that they can they cannot be concerts, non-concerts, unless they are part of a partnership. [2:04:33, 2:04:35]: With the city of Stockbridge, [2:04:40, 2:04:41]: And [2:04:41, 2:04:53]: I think that's it. All concert any concert must be oh any partnership must be brought to Mayor and Council requ upon request. [2:04:56, 2:05:12]: So we let me ask a question on that. Uh you you gotta understand what you're asking for. If there's three hundred and sixty five days in the year and somebody wants fifty people wanna come to us, that means fifty people gotta come back to us every single time. Is that what we wanna do? [2:05:13, 2:05:21]: Fifty times. We're gonna hear fifty different events. Is that our function or is that a staff function? I think it's micromanaging, but [2:05:24, 2:05:25]: [7527.0, 7528.3]: It's micromanaging. [2:05:29, 2:05:30]: To partner. [2:05:32, 2:05:52]: Well I would think if we want to partner, you would probably want to be able to have some say so I would imagine fifty fifty times the come to us fifty times. Ms. Garner, Mr. Gardner, sir. All right. So I I guess we something y'all y'all agree. I think this would this would y'all so any musical any any musical event shall require partnership [2:05:52, 2:05:55]: the city of Stockbridge and approved by the city council. [2:05:56, 2:05:56]: Correct. [2:06:00, 2:06:03]: Fine with me. Okay, I'm good with that. [2:06:05, 2:06:09]: Motion or not. No upfront thoughts. Or do I take that out? [2:06:09, 2:06:11]: Yeah. So we eliminate the section chain. [2:06:13, 2:06:14]: Got the end. [2:06:15, 2:06:18]: Mean all all sex and ten is coming out now? Yes. [2:06:25, 2:06:27]: And it's being replaced by what exactly now? [2:06:30, 2:06:42]: So that that coordinated services goes away. The only coordinated service will be under an agreement and obviously that's controlled by the partnership under agreement. You'll need a section cover. [2:06:42, 2:07:02]: So whatever they come in for and request, you guys get to see it and improve the scope of what their request is. And if it's if their request includes some coordination, y'all get to allocate or not allow at all. It's at your discretion. [2:07:02, 2:07:05]: quick. So if we eliminate ten. [2:07:07, 2:07:12]: kinda shooting ourselves because there's certain things. [2:07:12, 2:07:16]: Um, let's say we have a vendor that does the s the cleanup. [2:07:17, 2:07:34]: You know, when when you go rent to a specific uh facility, you can only have a certain caterer. It's kinda like you can only use these caterers because we know they do a good job. Preferred caterers. Preferred caterers. It's kinda just like that. We know that these are our preferred caterers. [2:07:34, 2:07:41]: concession people or these are our preferred janitorial services because they know our amphitheater. You can't just go out there and hire [2:07:42, 2:07:42]: Whoever you want. [2:07:43, 2:07:46]: So I think that's what this clause is trying to [2:07:46, 2:07:47]: Todo. [2:07:47, 2:07:50]: Із чайна мек шо да сіді. [2:07:51, 2:07:54]: Газ де он хуйю. [2:07:56, 2:08:00]: who the who the ser who who who we use. That's what clause ten is doing. [2:08:01, 2:08:07]: Trusted contractors that we know will take care of the business. We know it's gonna take care of the business. And I'm okay with that. [2:08:08, 2:08:12]: Right, but we have preferred caters and we we should. [2:08:12, 2:08:18]: Because some people might have terrible health scores or they may have um you know [2:08:18, 2:08:22]: Just different things. And so we should have preferred. I mean, I think that's normal. [2:08:24, 2:08:35]: This is not this doesn't say anything about caterers. No, no, I'm the I'm using it as an example. But I don't I don't I don't feel comfortable with the city paying upfront cost. [2:08:35, 2:08:37]: Of any shows. [2:08:38, 2:08:40]: Unless there is a partnership. [2:08:40, 2:08:43]: That we've all agreed and negotiated. [2:08:43, 2:08:52]: Whatever the services would be provided. I don't want us to advertise it as open-ended for anyone that wants to rent the amphitheater. [2:08:52, 2:08:55]: The city will pay the upfront cost. [2:08:55, 2:08:57]: And they will reimburse us. [2:08:57, 2:09:01]: I won't agree with that. Can I just ask that we table this item? [2:09:01, 2:09:02]: Yeah. [2:09:03, 2:09:23]: It seems as though w we we have not reached an agreement. No, no, no. I agree with you on that. I see what you're saying. But I would just remove the applicant reimbursing the city. I would still want them, just remove that line. The applicant's not going to reimburse the city, but the city has the right to say these are our preferred lists. You have to have a [2:09:23, 2:09:27]: prefer a list of some sort. Yes. So I agree with you on that. [2:09:27, 2:09:29]: A all the alternatives you can do. [2:09:30, 2:09:39]: to accommodate I think and this might accommodate everybody's that in order for you to have coordinated services, that it has to be part of an agreed upon [2:09:39, 2:09:49]: partnership with with the city. So therefore that that would you keep the language in here and you just put we can put [2:09:52, 2:09:54]: Take that language out. Um [2:09:55, 2:10:07]: I mean keep the services, take the language out and say uh the city has the say these are the preferred serv the city may have a list of preferred services or whatever that you're gonna utilize. [2:10:07, 2:10:18]: that you're gonna utilize these these particular companies. So but take out the language of us reimbursing the city for all costs. They have and the other one and it conflicts with the other clauses anyway. [2:10:18, 2:10:34]: Well, and unless you change it and make it as part of an agreement, then it doesn't contradict, right?'Cause you in order for you to get these cot these services, potentially, it has to be part of a of a partnership which has to be approved by council. [2:10:34, 2:10:38]: Right, so that's the only way that these provisions would ever come into play. [2:10:38, 2:10:51]: If they don't have a contract and they're coming in as a sole person wanting to use or entity wanting to use the facility, this doesn't come into play with them because there is no contract. They're either coming in as a straight non profit or a straight for profit entity. [2:10:51, 2:10:54]: The only time this comes into play is if you have a partnership. [2:10:55, 2:11:05]: And then it allow for you guys to be able to review it as part of that contr uh part of that and say, Yes, we're in conjunction with janitorial, we're not in conjunction with parking management. [2:11:05, 2:11:15]: a la cart whichever one of those you want as part of an agreement. Uh that way I think you you you get you you you you you satisfy both sides. [2:11:17, 2:11:28]: Yes. I think Miss Ms. Barber is Boston, you stepped up to the mic, so you have something to say, sir. I was just gonna say as long as everybody's clear with the numbers that we have for Quarum Nine takes three O to pass. [2:11:28, 2:11:32]: I'm sorry, say again please. With the numbers we have here tonight, it would take three to pass. [2:11:33, 2:11:38]: Yeah, I know. And so as long as everybody knows that be clear. [2:11:39, 2:11:52]: Well do y'all wanna table it? Y'all y'all wanna if y'all wanna t if if it's the w is a council we table it, we'll make these amendments and bring it back and then if you guys will let motion the table. All right. [2:11:52, 2:11:59]: We don't have anything in front of us coming to use it at this time. There's a motion on the floor to table. Mo so move. Is there a second? [2:11:59, 2:12:10]: I saw Miss Barber's hand first. Alexander Barber, all in favor, please indicate. Oh now table. All right, we'll move on. Okay. Thank you. [2:12:11, 2:12:26]: New business council consideration to approve adopted road program agreement with James E. Lacey Lodge number six hundred to adopt Campground Road from Woodbrook Drive to Highway forty two. Mr Aaron, please. [2:12:28, 2:12:48]: Yes, good evening once again, Mayor and Council. We come before you tonight. We have a group that wants to adopt a city road for uh litter pickup and maintenance. And we're coming tonight to ask for your approval. One of the reasons we want to bring all of these before Mayor and Council is that you have a say so in who are [2:12:48, 2:13:08]: Who are adopting streets and providing maintenance in the city of Stockbridge. We'll continue to tweak this policy as necessary. This will be our second group if it's approved. The first group is Stockbridge Youth Council. And so we just want Mayor and Council to always have the final say-so and whether our group [2:13:08, 2:13:10]: group or organization gets to adopt the city role. [2:13:11, 2:13:31]: Mayor. All right. Well fantastic. I I wanna I would imagine that the council approved this, but it's great that people want to do this this bit for our roads. But anyway, council. Yes, sir. Um my knowledge. Yeah, but it's up to you, sir. Yeah, I just want to say that yes, uh I have been spok um I spoken to uh the lodge and I've spoken to uh John Bailey. [2:13:31, 2:13:51]: And then uh my neighbor Rodney Joyner. Uh they came out, uh Rodney came out and actually helped uh with the campground road, keep Stark Bridge beautiful. And that's where he said, you know, is there anybody responsible for this road? And that's where the process began at. So certainly uh that would be a good asset to the city helping us maintain so [2:13:51, 2:14:00]: I make a motion to approve. I second. Ms. Bar um Barber second uh excuse Gantt second that. All favor, please indicate. I see you now. Thank you very much. [2:14:01, 2:14:08]: Council consideration to approve the award request for proposal RFP number two zero two two dash zero zero one. [2:14:08, 2:14:09]: One [2:14:10, 2:14:30]: Water control office and lab renovation services for the city of Stockbridge to diversify construction of Georgia, incorporating an amount of five hundred ninety-one thousand two hundred ninety-four dollars. Fund source water and sewer fund balance. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. On June 30th, 2022, the city opened three. [2:14:30, 2:14:50]: Three bids that were received were from McWright, General Contractor and Electrical, Crown Services Contractor, and Diversified Construction of Georgia Inc. On August 16, 2022, an evaluation committee met and reviewed the different proposals, but this project will update the city's wastewater treatment plant. [2:14:49, 2:15:09]: Laboratory and offices. It hasn't had any updates since 1997. So the laboratory equipment is outdated. It has far exceeded its useful life. And also, we're going to do some improvements to the facility as well, such as restrooms, showers, and things of that sort. So we're asking mayor improve and counsel. [2:15:09, 2:15:15]: Council to approve this renovation project that is greatly needed for the wastewater treatment facility. [2:15:15, 2:15:17]: All right. Council, any questions? [2:15:18, 2:15:29]: Only question I always have is does this anticipate any future growth whereas the facility might need to be expanded or anything or long is this part of the long term plan? [2:15:30, 2:15:50]: This is for office space, so we're kind of confined to that footprint and the staff will not increase substantially, so it will be useful far into the next fifteen and twenty years as we will be renovating a former former laboratory as well to include additional spaces and storage space for staff. [2:15:51, 2:15:53]: Any other questions for the council? [2:15:54, 2:15:56]: Need a motion to accept this proposal. [2:15:57, 2:16:00]: So moved. Ms. Kent, uh so moved. The second. [2:16:03, 2:16:04]: [8164.5, 8167.4]: Mr. Howzan, I second that. Any further discussion? [2:16:07, 2:16:09]: If not, all in favor please indicate. [2:16:10, 2:16:13]: Thank you, Mr. Council, and thank you, Mr. Aaron. [2:16:14, 2:16:15]: Yes, Mr Mayor the next [2:16:16, 2:16:18]: Council consideration to approve the award. [2:16:18, 2:16:24]: Uh for the request for proposal RFP number two zero two two dash zero zero zero six. [2:16:25, 2:16:35]: On call general engineer engineering services for the city of Stockbridge to Falcon Design Consultants, LLC, and Carter and Sloop Consulting Engineers. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:16:35, 2:16:55]: Yes, Mr. Mayor, before we explain, uh Carter and Sloop will be removed for consideration tonight because they only got their agreement this morning. They didn't have time to review it. So they'll be on an upcoming meeting. But we're asking uh mayor and council to approve awarding the on one of the on-call engineering firms to [2:16:55, 2:17:15]: Falcon Design. Falcon Design has done a lot of work for the city. They currently have 15 projects in various stages that they're working on for the city. It has been a very beneficial relationship for the city and some of the projects we've done over the years. And I just ask that mayor and council approve awarded an on-call engineering. [2:17:15, 2:17:20]: engineering bid to Falcon Design Consultants. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, please. [2:17:20, 2:17:33]: I move that we approve um and award our RFP request for proposal on call general engineering services to Falcon Design Consultant. Sir. Okay. Further discussion. Yes, ma'am. [2:17:36, 2:17:48]: And to remove Carter and Sloop off of the um oh off of this motion. Do we need another second to that? Second. Okay. Mr. Alzheimer's second that thank you, Ms. Clerk. And uh Ms uh Barber, go ahead please. [2:17:51, 2:17:51]: Um [2:17:53, 2:17:55]: I wanted to ask Mr [2:17:56, 2:18:00]: Aaron, so I'm not sure exactly when, but the council approved [2:18:01, 2:18:03]: Changes to our procurement процесс. [2:18:04, 2:18:07]: It requires at a minimum of five [2:18:07, 2:18:10]: um members of the evaluation committee. [2:18:10, 2:18:11]: I noticed that. [2:18:12, 2:18:13]: Item ten. [2:18:14, 2:18:17]: There were five members of the evaluation committee. [2:18:18, 2:18:19]: For item ten. [2:18:19, 2:18:21]: On August sixteenth. [2:18:22, 2:18:24]: But item eleven on the agenda. [2:18:24, 2:18:26]: There's only three members. [2:18:26, 2:18:28]: Of the evaluation committee. [2:18:30, 2:18:31]: For the engineer. [2:18:32, 2:18:32]: Yes. [2:18:33, 2:18:40]: Why is that? It was my understanding that they had five members. Procurement, I submit a list of [2:18:40, 2:18:42]: candidates to procurement. [2:18:42, 2:18:49]: For the committee and and they're the ones that put together the committee. They ask me for names and I submit names. I see four. [2:18:49, 2:18:54]: I'm going to abstain from voting on this one for now. [2:18:54, 2:18:56]: Can't pay us without three. [2:18:57, 2:18:58]: No, no, I can't. [2:19:00, 2:19:10]: All right, so anyway, the motion was made in the second, right? So let's take the count here. All in favor of motion, please indicate. Ma Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Okay, go ahead. [2:19:11, 2:19:23]: Uh, Councilman Barber, can you explain to me what you're saying was done what what you are needing information on or what happened?'Cause I'm not quite I heard you say something about five. [2:19:23, 2:19:30]: But you mean five bids or five what exactly five members of the evaluation committee? Mm-hmm. Um [2:19:31, 2:19:32]: So for item ten. [2:19:32, 2:19:34]: There were five members. [2:19:35, 2:19:36]: I can't remember exactly. [2:19:37, 2:19:38]: Ms. Holliday, do you remember [2:19:39, 2:19:42]: Um the time frame in which the council approved. [2:19:42, 2:19:44]: Those revisions to our procurement. [2:19:45, 2:19:46]: Processes. [2:19:46, 2:19:47]: That requires [2:19:48, 2:19:49]: A minimum of five [2:19:50, 2:19:53]: members of the evaluation committee. Do you remember when we did that? [2:19:55, 2:20:03]: I can tell you it was June, but whether or not it was the council member meeting in June or the work session, but it was approved in June of twenty twenty two. [2:20:04, 2:20:06]: Okay. Mr. Gardner. [2:20:12, 2:20:17]: I just want to make sure that we are consistent in what we're doing. Um [2:20:18, 2:20:23]: The item ten, there were five members of the evaluation committee. [2:20:24, 2:20:26]: But this item, item eleven. [2:20:26, 2:20:28]: For the on call service. [2:20:29, 2:20:30]: There is only three. [2:20:31, 2:20:32]: Three members. [2:20:33, 2:20:34]: of the evaluation committee. [2:20:34, 2:20:36]: Can you explain that? Why? [2:20:37, 2:20:47]: Okay. Cannot I know I don't know why it's only three uh I can find out but right now for the sake of us moving this forward, I'm going to approve it. [2:20:47, 2:20:48]: This time. [2:20:48, 2:20:49]: But please. [2:20:50, 2:20:53]: Will you please make sure that staff is consistent? [2:20:53, 2:21:06]: in what they're doing with their processes in procurement. Yes, ma'am. With only having because this council approved revisions to the processes. I just want us to be consistent. Understood. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. [2:21:07, 2:21:22]: All right, so it's there's a motion on the floor to accept this proposal for um Falcon Design and and uh Carter Sloop is not uh going to uh at this time is not going to be on this uh acceptance for this uh going forward, is my understanding. [2:21:24, 2:21:32]: And it's been seconded by Mr. Alexander. Motion by my my Ms. Gantt. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. All right, so it m now passes three zero. Thank you. [2:21:34, 2:21:54]: Council consideration to approve the purchase of a Calipillar in Inc. Model 289 D3 compact track loader skid steer under Georgia statewide contract number 99999-001. That's SPD00000. [2:21:54, 2:22:14]: With uh Yancey Brothers incorporated an amount of$131,787. Funding source is the Water and Sewer Department budget budgeted funds. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. The Water and Sewer Department uh budgeted for the purchase of a skid steer. [2:22:14, 2:22:34]: That would be used to clear water and sewer easements. It'll have a mulching attachment so that they can cut down trees and limbs and things of that sort. Previously, in the past, when we've had something, a large-scale project, we've had to bid it out. We just completed a project and we spent over$40,000. So if we get to the [2:22:34, 2:22:54]: point we can do it in-house we'll be able to recognize the savings also the skid steer can be used for other activities within the water and sewer department and public works as well so these are budgeted funds and we're just asking that council approve this purchase so that we can do some maintenance work on our own and not rely on contractors to do [2:22:54, 2:22:55]: Do it. [2:22:55, 2:23:00]: Uh thank you, sir. Councillor questions for Mr. Aaron. If not, I need a motion. [2:23:02, 2:23:03]: To accept his proposal. [2:23:03, 2:23:23]: Mayor, I move that we um accept the proposal that um Mr. Aaron just mentioned here. Okay, Ms. Gantt, is there a second? Second. Okay, Ms. Barber second. Ms. Barber second. Any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. All right, fantastic. Pass three zero. Thank you, sir. Thank you, council. Okay. Council consideration. [2:23:23, 2:23:43]: To amend FY 2023 El Meg list to remove North Bridge Drive and replace it with Burke Street and the portion of Davis Road that was impacted by the Burke Street sewer project. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. In the next coming years, the city will be having a sewer project on North Bridge Drive that will [2:23:43, 2:24:03]: Will require us to make some road cuts. So we don't want to resurface the road and then two years later we go back and make some cuts to it. And while we when we did the sewer project on Burke Street and Davis Street, we had to excavate the center of the road, so we just patched it. And so we want to switch uh North Bridge with Davis Road and [2:24:03, 2:24:23]: Uh Burt Street so that we downtown maintain that clean, pristine image. You know, you don't want people coming through the downtown area wondering why that big patch is down the center of the road. And also by switching these roads, Birch Street was scheduled to be resurfaced in the next couple of years. We're gonna realize a savings of three thousand dollars by removing North. [2:24:23, 2:24:26]: Bridge Drive and adding Burke Street and Davis Road. [2:24:27, 2:24:29]: Good deal. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Councillor questions. [2:24:31, 2:24:32]: Okay, I need a motion. [2:24:33, 2:24:45]: So moving. I second. All right. Miss Alexander to Miss Gantt. All in favor, please indicate. Fantastic. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Council. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Miss Mayor and Council. For this project. Your motor. [2:24:46, 2:24:55]: Council consideration to authorize a city manager or his designee to apply for and receive US Department of Transportation Reconnecting Communities Pilot Grant Program. [2:24:56, 2:25:00]: The grant is to support the planning activities and preliminary engineering of constructing [2:25:00, 2:25:02]: І подъестрін бридж алонсайд. [2:25:02, 2:25:06]: The Martin Luther King Senior Bridge for a total project cost of two hundred [2:25:07, 2:25:10]: Five thousand two hundred and thir uh thirty nine dollars and ten cents. [2:25:10, 2:25:22]: Funding source uh federal share one hundred and sixty four thousand one ninety one and twenty eight cents and the city cost share forty one thousand forty seven dollars and eighty two cents. The cost share [2:25:22, 2:25:33]: will be allocated from T S PLOS. It says presented by oh Kelly Kelly Kelly Russell. Fantastic. Good to see you, ma'am. Good to see you too there. Good evening, Council. [2:25:33, 2:25:45]: Um, I'm Kelly Russell, the city admit I mean I'm sorry, the grants administrator for the city. And what you have before you is the um approval, the request for approval for the city manager to submit an application. [2:25:45, 2:25:48]: for the um infrastructure grant. [2:25:48, 2:25:51]: Фонд байда ЮС департ о транспорте. [2:25:51, 2:26:02]: This grant will allow the city to position itself, do the legwork to position itself to apply for then construction costs for us to build the pedestrian bridge alongside the Martin Luther King. [2:26:02, 2:26:04]: Senior um [2:26:04, 2:26:05]: Memorial Bridge. [2:26:06, 2:26:09]: And so we're requesting your approval to have for us to submit the application. [2:26:10, 2:26:22]: Okay, fantastic. Now you said besides, but it's really gonna is it really gonna be connected? It'll be connected to the bridge, right? It's not when you say bes by the side, you're not gonna have any type of gap between a bridge and this pedestrian piece. [2:26:22, 2:26:36]: Um so you all had a and um approved a R S V P plan in twenty and eighteen. Right. And option three sort of illustrated what that project would look like, and I believe it is uh Jason or [2:26:37, 2:26:39]: It may be its own structure. [2:26:40, 2:26:47]: Um, and I would like to defer to Mr. Aaron to provide some additional details on the project on the level. All right, fantastic. [2:26:52, 2:26:52]: Oh fuck. [2:26:55, 2:27:06]: Yes, the uh pedestrian bridge it will be a separate structure because G Dot would not allow us to connect directly to the bridge, so it'll be its own structure that spans the railroad tracks. [2:27:06, 2:27:26]: All right. And you have any idea uh the curiosity question, any idea what this uh uh the difference, uh the space difference, how many feet or yards difference from the between the two? Well, we hadn't gotten that far yet with the actual design. We're just trying to uh seek approval so that we can move forward with it. But I know that there was eight hundred thousand dollars. [2:27:26, 2:27:36]: dollars allocated in T splas for that pedestrian bridge. And if you remember if you go to Peachtree City is you're going over [2:27:36, 2:27:43]: It's kinda probably be similar to that pedestrian bridge that goes along Highway fifty five. Uh-huh. It goes over [2:27:43, 2:28:03]: I think it's a railroad track, I'm not too sure. But that bridge it'll look similar. Well we hoping it'll look similar to that in design. Okay. Characteristic, but how far we won't know until we go to get the study approved and it'll tell us what's the best. Yeah, it's just a curiosity question. I was just wondering. Anyway, council, again, questions? Yes. Well, this uh total application include lighting. [2:28:03, 2:28:21]: And there are all the accessories to go with the bridge, intense as uh lighting should be incorporated in in the request, I would think. Well the the application is to develop the study and the report that will identify the needs for lighting, utilities and things of that nature to construct the bridge. [2:28:23, 2:28:24]: Okay. [2:28:26, 2:28:46]: This this just gives this allow for us to get the federal funding to actually do the study. Okay. Once they once they complete the study, that part of that would be obviously what the design characteristics would look like. Cause I know there's one that has the words stockbridge written over it and lights. Mm-hmm. So you know, we don't know if they'll [2:28:46, 2:28:57]: We'll approve that but definitely we'll know once we finish the study what the concepts will look like and then which one we will actually send to the FedS for for funding for construction. [2:28:57, 2:29:10]: All right. Okay. Any other any other questions? Council. Need a motion to accept this, please. So moved. Okay, Ms. Gantt and Miss Barber. Ms. Gantt and Miss Barber, any further questions? If not, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Thank you, Kelly. Appreciate it. [2:29:12, 2:29:19]: Council consideration to approve the job description for police lieutenant and administrative manager position. Presented by Chief Trammer, please. [2:29:20, 2:29:23]: Good evening, Chief. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. [2:29:24, 2:29:44]: Uh this is actually uh we've had some an opportunity obviously um operating over the last several months to evaluate our operations to look at uh operational efficiencies and how we can be more effective. Uh currently we have twelve supervisory positions throughout the department. Those are all hourly positions because we [2:29:44, 2:29:50]: work twelve hour shifts. Uh we don't work a standard two thousand and eighty hour um a year. [2:29:50, 2:30:10]: Uh cycle. The officers or the supervisors in this case actually work 2,184 hours. So there's 104 hours of administratively uncontrollable overtime that's built into those positions. And in looking at the way that we're aligned, uh we are anticipating absorbing code enforcement after the first of the year, so we need to build in a mechanism for. [2:30:10, 2:30:30]: For oversight there. And then, furthermore, to allow for the growth and development of our personnel and to provide for succession planning, we'd like to create a police lieutenant's position. We're not asking to add any additional positions to the organizational structure. We're still remaining at 58 full-time employees, but we would be reclassifying those positions. Those positions would be [2:30:30, 2:30:49]: be converted from hourly positions to exempt positions. And by virtue of doing that, we actually would realize a cost savings of about$10,000, nearly$2,000 per position by converting those positions again to exempt positions. That's what we're asking the council to approve this evening. Thanks, Chief. Any questions for [2:30:50, 2:30:53]: Chief Tremor, no Yes, this agenda item [2:30:53, 2:30:55]: The background says that [2:30:56, 2:30:58]: Stockbridge Police Department is requesting to add [2:30:59, 2:31:01]: A police lieutenant position. [2:31:03, 2:31:06]: That's the position, not not the actual [2:31:07, 2:31:09]: not additional positions is to add the [2:31:10, 2:31:11]: Perhaps it wasn't worded um [2:31:13, 2:31:18]: Right. So it's to prove the job description for i is what I have on here. Maybe there's a [2:31:22, 2:31:34]: Okay. So you're saying we're saving ten thousand by making the making these positions exist. Ex as salary instead of hourly. Correct. Okay. And currently [2:31:36, 2:31:40]: But the hourly positions still have health care and all the other benefits, correct? [2:31:40, 2:31:45]: Correct. Okay. And nothing would change as it relates to the benefits associated with those positions. Okay. [2:31:45, 2:31:45]: All right. [2:31:47, 2:31:49]: Yeah, questions, if not, I need a motion. [2:31:50, 2:32:02]: So move. Mr. Alexander. I second. Okay, Miss Gantt. All in favor, please indicate. Fantastic. Thank you, Chief. Thank you. All right. We're passed three zero. All right, so uh items. [2:32:03, 2:32:12]: Sixteen, seventeen, eighteen of be uh be next month. So we'll now move on to matter of fact, uh next item is Mr. Alexander. [2:32:13, 2:32:15]: You would ask to add something item to the agenda. [2:32:16, 2:32:32]: Yes, I just wanted to make sure that I was following proper protocol and getting approval for the usage of the amphitheater for the town hall be concerning public safety. Uh the sheriff has agreed to come and several other individuals. I'd like to make a motion for approval for that. [2:32:32, 2:32:52]: I second. Okay. All favor, please indicate. Now let me tag on to this as well. You know, maybe I did maybe I missed something here. I had I also I'm in I'm actually in partnership with uh Miss Shaw in reference to her funding pitch, which was on the twenty sixth. I probably should have came to the council and asked for permission for that as well. [2:32:52, 2:32:59]: Shame off shame on me for that. So that made me think about that when you brought this up, Mr. Alexander, and then Miss Shaw was here tonight. [2:32:59, 2:33:05]: Uh so I know I didn't add this on, I guess in a sense of thinking, but I'm I I probably should have asked that. So [2:33:05, 2:33:25]: I don't know how we go about adding it. This amended w let's uh make a request to amend the agenda to add the item uh described by the mayor for the funding pitch and use of the amphitheater. Yeah, right. No, it's but not the amphitheatre. It's mural manners. I didn't think we I thought we had a rule on that already. Well, that's why automatically approve those. [2:33:25, 2:33:27]: I thought we were still requesting. Yeah. [2:33:28, 2:33:31]: Are we still requesting those, uh Miss Holliday? [2:33:32, 2:33:34]: Do we still request for the murmuranders? [2:33:35, 2:33:36]: Do we still vote for that? [2:33:38, 2:33:39]: Right. [2:33:40, 2:33:54]: Okay, the Merlman is a different man, it's not the amphitheater. Okay, okay, okay. So I'm I'm all right then. All right. I'll just you made me think about am I doing something not quite right here? Mayor, we can check it and and just simply ratify it if that's the case. [2:33:54, 2:34:05]: Okay. All right. So we'll move on. Okay. Uh okay. So what we have next is lost. Um uh the resolution for lost. Uh Ms Mr. Washington. [2:34:06, 2:34:07]: Mr Washington. [2:34:09, 2:34:15]: Uh John, please retrieve our attorney please. [2:34:29, 2:34:32]: As we take a mild little break here. [2:34:45, 2:34:54]: Yeah, we'll just have air conditioning off. Mm-hmm. I know. Council Alexander, in your [2:34:55, 2:34:59]: made the request, I believe you said October twenty eighth, but you made the twenty seventh, correct? [2:35:01, 2:35:05]: It's a Thursday. The twenty seventh, that's right. [2:35:06, 2:35:26]: That's correct. 27th of the Mr. Washington, loss, the resolution for loss, sir, please. Yes. So Mayor and Council, we've been having spirited discussions with our Henry County and our the city counterparts about the loss negotiations. And we're currently at a standstill, and we may be going to um an arbitration of which the county [2:35:26, 2:35:46]: Has not agreed to attend yet. What we're asking for in all of the counties, this all of this went through McDonough and it's coming around to the other cities as well. We're asking to sign off on this resolution saying that we at least want and our citizens would support the split that we had from 10 years ago, which we [2:35:46, 2:36:06]: Was the 6634. We're asking that Mayor Ford go to the October 18th meeting. And if you all want to come as well, you are welcome to speak out on behalf of the disastrous consequences if we do not reach a decision on lost, and also if we do not get a split that would still benefit. [2:36:06, 2:36:26]: Us. Lost gives us, as you note from Mr. Gardner's presentation, roughly five to six million dollars a year. That is predicated upon the split that we have from 10 years ago, which the county is in opposition to. And so I mean Ford can tell you, and we can as well, that we've not been able to reach any. [2:36:26, 2:36:46]: Anything close to that. And we're still working really hard to try to get them to come to the table, but part of it is going to require some level of public support and public pressure that we place on them. And so this resolution will be a part of that piece in that strategy. Thank you, Mr. Washington. I appreciate it. And we need appreciate you all the efforts you're doing here. [2:36:46, 2:37:06]: Anyway, council. Questions and concerns if questions for Mr. Washington at this point, if not, just need a motion to accept this. And I I think uh certain of our I think it would be helpful if the city manager would come to propony and uh let I mean this is a public meeting. Yes it is sir, no problem. [2:37:06, 2:37:10]: Yeah, I got you. Mr. Gardner? Mr. Gardner. [2:37:15, 2:37:35]: Can you further further explain how critical this is issue is in reference to the loss and the the negotiations and the fact that uh we have not come to a viable resolution between the cities are all in agreement, but not a viable resolution with the county, how serious this is and what we're gonna do in the sense of hopefully approving this resolution here. If you can explain any further in reference to clarification. [2:37:35, 2:37:48]: for the public's awareness of what's going on. Yes. So uh as I mentioned, every every ten years um under law we're required to negotiate with Henry County [2:37:48, 2:37:50]: All the municipalities, Stockbridge, [2:37:51, 2:37:53]: McDonough, Locus Grove and Hampton. [2:37:54, 2:37:55]: Of two [2:37:56, 2:38:16]: negotiate this share of the local option sales tax or sales tax as we know it, right? Um over the last 10 years. Um it was agreed upon back into 2013, 2012, going into 2013, and that split was 66 [2:38:16, 2:38:20]: With the county getting sixty six percent. [2:38:20, 2:38:23]: Thirty four percent come to the cities, the cities then split. [2:38:24, 2:38:25]: That thirty four percent. [2:38:26, 2:38:27]: Between us. [2:38:27, 2:38:29]: Um it wasn't a [2:38:29, 2:38:31]: population base split back then. [2:38:32, 2:38:34]: Биказ атаку [2:38:34, 2:38:37]: The city of Hampton had not grown but [2:38:37, 2:38:51]: a lot and so the city of Stockbridge and the city of McDonough gave a percentage of their sales tax to the city of Hampton to make them hold back in twenty thirteen for twenty thirteen. [2:38:51, 2:38:52]: Um [2:38:53, 2:38:56]: This year the county came in with a recommendation [2:38:56, 2:38:58]: They they get eighty percent. [2:38:58, 2:39:02]: And the cities get a split of only twenty percent. [2:39:03, 2:39:05]: That was their first initial stance. [2:39:05, 2:39:06]: We the city. [2:39:07, 2:39:09]: Путфорд а терд апроч. [2:39:09, 2:39:11]: Чула County saying, Hey. [2:39:12, 2:39:15]: We understand that all of our communities are growing, respectively. [2:39:15, 2:39:20]: But we think and based on the eight criteria's that are listed under the law. [2:39:21, 2:39:23]: But the law is not direct. [2:39:24, 2:39:30]: It has vagueness in it and according to our former state representative, mister Andy Welsh. [2:39:30, 2:39:32]: The legislature has not saw a fit. [2:39:33, 2:39:37]: to make any amendments to do away with this ambiguity. [2:39:37, 2:39:38]: or vagueness in the law. [2:39:39, 2:39:42]: So hence we are stuck with [2:39:42, 2:39:56]: These are the criteria you should review versus those eight criteria that you shall use. And that's where the the rubber hits the road, the difference between should and shall. [2:39:57, 2:39:58]: Um [2:39:58, 2:39:59]: And so the county [2:40:00, 2:40:05]: came back to us. We met, I think, three times with the county, the last time being [2:40:05, 2:40:10]: Last week Wednesday, um the city manag the county manager called a meeting of the managers and the attorneys. [2:40:11, 2:40:13]: Um and [2:40:13, 2:40:16]: Pretty much came up with a teared approach. [2:40:16, 2:40:19]: That as I outlined to you guys in my memo. [2:40:19, 2:40:20]: To you. [2:40:20, 2:40:28]: Whereby at the end of this tenure period or the last four years of this tenure period, they will get somewhere around seventy-three percent. [2:40:28, 2:40:31]: of the lost and the cities would get [2:40:31, 2:40:35]: Twenty seven or twenty six or twenty eight, somewhere around there. [2:40:35, 2:40:37]: What that does to us. [2:40:37, 2:40:38]: Is that percentage? [2:40:39, 2:40:47]: Affects the amount it comes to the city. And as the city is currently configured, sales tax is our biggest form of income. [2:40:48, 2:40:54]: that we provide all of our general services by to include police services, right? [2:40:54, 2:40:58]: So right now we're at about five point one [2:40:59, 2:41:04]: A few years ago was five point nine and that was just based on sales activities going on. [2:41:05, 2:41:07]: We're in an environment right now where we're [2:41:07, 2:41:13]: hot on the tails of not just being inflation, but now recessionary times. [2:41:13, 2:41:14]: Right. [2:41:15, 2:41:18]: Вічкан афект сел так, аз но. [2:41:18, 2:41:27]: Right. Um hence you saw the difference in the us taking a a a real mild mild-minded approach to our sales tax revenue. [2:41:27, 2:41:30]: But if those numbers fall under [2:41:30, 2:41:50]: The five million that we've been collecting over the last six or seven years under the agreement, that affects what services we can provide and will have potentially have to cut as a local government. And those services are enumerated under our general fund, which are public safety, police, public works. [2:41:50, 2:42:05]: Right. Um administration, city clerk, government body, those entities that are funded with those with those tax with those tax dollars, those sales tax dollars. So that's the that's the ill effect of what can happen. Um [2:42:05, 2:42:24]: I think obviously from what I mentioned in my memo to you guys, you know the way we perceive is that we would like for the county to go into arbitration with us. Um in twenty twelve there was a arbitration clause to allow for us to go to what was known back then as baseball arbitration. [2:42:25, 2:42:28]: Ам да вас дім унконститучно бада Джорджа Супрім Корт. [2:42:29, 2:42:41]: Hands kicked out, so now we're stuck with the situation where we are, where we just get a mediator, but we can call for arbitration, which we our goal is to do so if the county doesn't wish to attend. [2:42:41, 2:42:42]: We'll attend in earnest. [2:42:43, 2:42:52]: And we'll have that frank discussion amongst the cities and everybody will know that the county is putting itself in a tenable untenable situation. Now, under the law [2:42:54, 2:42:57]: We have until December thirty first in which to come to an agreement. [2:42:58, 2:43:00]: If there is no agreement [2:43:01, 2:43:02]: At midnight. [2:43:02, 2:43:04]: December thirty first. [2:43:05, 2:43:07]: Loss goes away for everybody. [2:43:08, 2:43:10]: And the only way it comes back. [2:43:10, 2:43:12]: Is for there to be put on [2:43:12, 2:43:14]: A referendum on the ballot. [2:43:15, 2:43:17]: At the next election cycle. [2:43:17, 2:43:20]: Um, for to come back. [2:43:20, 2:43:25]: And if the voters don't approve it, we have lost loss. As you know, once you [2:43:25, 2:43:29]: Give someone something and you take it back is how to get it back. [2:43:29, 2:43:38]: Um so that would be the ill effects if we can't get to an agreement with the county by December thirty-first that loss goes away for everyone. [2:43:39, 2:43:45]: Well that's Yeah go ahead, sir. [2:43:45, 2:43:49]: Yes. But but here's here's the catch. There's a kicker in this. They told me they don't care. [2:43:50, 2:43:51]: [9832.8, 9838.3]: The counties the county in and of itself can can call for a host. [2:43:58, 2:44:01]: Which the Cab County currently operates under. [2:44:02, 2:44:02]: Right. [2:44:03, 2:44:09]: Um they can do that. And if that's approved, they're the only ones to get that. The cities don't get a share in host. [2:44:10, 2:44:15]: Right, and that's a big issue with what's happening in the Cap county and one or two other counties that actually did this. [2:44:15, 2:44:17]: Um, some years ago. [2:44:17, 2:44:37]: But if they did that, then that it had to go back on a referendum and they would lose the money uh initially and they would have to raise taxes tremendously to cover their shortfall. So the property tax owners would be looking at a tremendous spike to cover this, which basically is being covered now by a one-cent sales tax. [2:44:37, 2:44:42]: Tax and the property tax owners should understand they're the ones that are gonna be soaked, right? [2:44:43, 2:44:51]: Yeah. At some point the county will like all of us will have to dig into reserves and at some point someone is gonna shout, Uncle [2:44:51, 2:44:53]: Because somebody's gonna run out of money first. [2:44:53, 2:44:56]: Um and at that point, um [2:44:56, 2:44:58]: That's who will be the loser. [2:44:59, 2:45:04]: And you know, the ones with the highest swim violence are the ones that'll take the longest before they scream. [2:45:05, 2:45:05]: Right. [2:45:06, 2:45:12]: Oh Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. Um let me say this. Um [2:45:13, 2:45:22]: I was personally told that the county will not go to arbitration. I was personally told that they don't care if we all lose money. [2:45:23, 2:45:31]: I'm very offended by that and I think that's poor leadership. And I am not gonna be bullied or held my feet to the fire. [2:45:32, 2:45:37]: For because this is for all of Henry County. We should always be about Henry County. [2:45:38, 2:45:48]: In general, in general, the entire county. How selfish are we? We already lost money with splost. How selfish? The population has increased. [2:45:50, 2:46:02]: Population has increased in the city. In all cities. And what I what I my biggest concern about this is, it is from my understanding that the numbers that the county and I want people to know this. [2:46:03, 2:46:04]: Because [2:46:05, 2:46:08]: For some reason, the coun county commissioners [2:46:08, 2:46:15]: And and please, uh you know, some of them are my friends, but for some reason, when they get in those positions, [2:46:16, 2:46:18]: Mayor and council [2:46:19, 2:46:33]: They forget that we still have to vote for them. They still represent the cities. They still have a part of that city. However, when they fund things, when they want to do their roles, oh it's not their role. This this is unincorporated. [2:46:33, 2:46:38]: But now you wanna include us in your percentage. [2:46:38, 2:46:43]: So their eighty percent included the city limits of Stockbridge. Then they give us the other [2:46:43, 2:46:45]: Half of that percentage. [2:46:45, 2:46:47]: And then tell us [2:46:47, 2:46:57]: Hey, we want you to join with us and put your money back in. Well, you've got money back in. You got your taxes, you've done all kind of stuff, your millage rates, and then you turn around. [2:46:57, 2:46:59]: And try to rape us. [2:47:00, 2:47:02]: In the rest of the cities, and it's not gonna work. [2:47:03, 2:47:04]: It's wrong. [2:47:05, 2:47:07]: You're double dipping. You're triple dipping. [2:47:07, 2:47:10]: You wanna include us in your population. [2:47:12, 2:47:15]: And then you wanna give us a little percentage. [2:47:15, 2:47:20]: And then you want to turn around and say, hey, we want you to join with us and pay for this project. [2:47:21, 2:47:22]: That's not gonna happen. [2:47:23, 2:47:26]: And I hope that we all stand firm with that. [2:47:27, 2:47:28]: And anybody. [2:47:29, 2:47:35]: Who goes around and say, oh well, we don't care, we'll just not go to arbitration, should not be in office. [2:47:37, 2:47:51]: It's gonna take some city council members to run for these positions in the county and be fair for the both the unincorporated and incorporated. I don't care who you are. I'm fed up. This is nine years and counting. [2:47:52, 2:48:10]: This is supposed to be about making Henry County great. The vision of the technology area, the medical area, the area where they have logistics, the area where they have um the retail and the shopping and the food. We're supposed to be working together, but instead. [2:48:11, 2:48:13]: We're fighting for what we deserve. [2:48:14, 2:48:15]: And it is dead wrong. [2:48:16, 2:48:16]: Correct. [2:48:17, 2:48:17]: And so [2:48:19, 2:48:20]: They don't want to go to arbitration. [2:48:21, 2:48:26]: Then let's get some city council members to run for their positions because they're gonna lose. [2:48:26, 2:48:28]: out on the entire county. [2:48:29, 2:48:35]: It's gonna take people who care about both the city limits and unincorporated, people who are fair. [2:48:36, 2:48:47]: Because right now that's not what's going on and I'm tired of it. This is the most selfish asinine thing I've ever heard of in my life. And I quote, I hope the AJ C and the Himmer Herald is listening. [2:48:49, 2:48:50]: That's all. [2:48:50, 2:48:53]: Thank you, ma'am. Okay, appreciate that. Uh Miss Barber, please. [2:48:54, 2:49:00]: Um I'm very disappointed. Disappointed that they don't even want to [2:49:01, 2:49:03]: meet or go through arbitration. [2:49:04, 2:49:05]: At all. [2:49:06, 2:49:07]: I know this is politics and all. [2:49:08, 2:49:09]: But they are people. [2:49:10, 2:49:12]: People involved. [2:49:13, 2:49:15]: All of us will be affected by it. [2:49:16, 2:49:17]: Every city [2:49:18, 2:49:23]: Are we are we the only city that's um passing a resolution? [2:49:23, 2:49:43]: No, they all are. The first one that did it, they did it last night in McDonough. Then we're up next and Hampton's also at a retreat. They're going to do it so all four of the cities are doing it. Yes, ma'am. This is a coordinated effort by all four of the cities. And our goal is to stick together as municipalities here in the city to get what we [2:49:43, 2:49:53]: deserve, not just what we think we deserve, but what is outlined under the law, under those eight characteristics that they should be looking at to distribute the sales tax. [2:49:54, 2:50:05]: Wow. And so that's why we're going to have when if when you all approve this what happened to the report and if you all wanna come as well, that will be presented to them at their October eighteenth meeting. [2:50:06, 2:50:09]: Thank you. Mr. Alison, do you hear any comments, sir? [2:50:09, 2:50:20]: Uh uh no, I mean mine initially I'm I concur with my colleagues and this is just a a terrible situation. It needs to be rectified and uh everybody needs to be gave it comfort. [2:50:20, 2:50:40]: So do we need a motion for this? Well well actually for the resolution we do, but I'm gonna say this as well. I've I've I responded to you all in a email uh pretty a couple of days or so ago and so you have my thoughts on that, but just to publicly announce the fact that I'm glad the city's just sticking together on this aspect that we we we've we fight together uh in in this aspect here. [2:50:40, 2:51:00]: And uh it is unheard of and so we we have to go to arbitration. We need to pull uh push the button and keep moving on this'cause I'm not happy about this either. It's it's does it's not proper, not right in this aspect. But uh I look forward to uh further dialogue and for us to at the four cities to the continue to move in one direction to to do to what [2:51:00, 2:51:15]: What's right for our citizens, period. On that note, I I need a motion to accept this, please. So move. Is there a second? Ms. Barber second then. All favor, please indicate. Fantastic. Thank you very much. Thank you. Gentlemen, great. Okay, I'll go on uh [2:51:16, 2:51:36]: With announcements and accompanying meetings and events. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, October 14th. Downtown Development Authority meeting 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month is October 18th. U Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30, 30. [2:51:36, 2:51:56]: Third Tuesday of each month in Levi Meeting Room City Hall October 18th. City Council Work Session meeting Tuesday, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, October 25th. Planning Commission meeting fourth Thursday of each uh fourth Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, October 27th. City Council meeting [2:51:56, 2:52:16]: Meeting second Monday of each month, City Hall Council Chambers, November 14th. U Council meeting 6:30, second Monday of each month. City Hall Levi Meeting Room and it's October, uh, excuse me, November 14th. Uh continuous uh salute to veterans, please forward pictures of veterans to include name, branch, rank, and years. [2:52:15, 2:52:35]: The service of Mayor Pro Tem Thomas presents a special tribute to our local veterans. The pictures will be submitted to Rosalind Rawls at R. Rawls at city of Starbucks-G A.gov. And of course, thank you for your service. Please join Councilwoman Barber for a free Zuma every Saturday morning at Clark Park, 8 a.m. Come on. [2:52:35, 2:52:55]: out for your fitness in the park. You see Stockbridge will host an in-person annexation town hall meeting on Thursday October 13th, 630 at the New Faith Christian Church, 396 Eagles Landing Parkway Monday. Also Monday, October 17th at 630 at Red Oak United Methodist Church. [2:52:55, 2:53:15]: And Thursday, October 20th, 6:30 p.m. at Merle Manders Conference Center, 111 Davis Road. Thursday, October 24th at 6:30 at Liberty Baptist Church, 1410 Valley Hill Road, and Tuesday, uh November 1st at 6:30 p.m., which would be at Virtual Town Hall. Please visit the web. Please visit. [2:53:15, 2:53:35]: Visit the website or Facebook page for login information. And Saturday, November 5th, 6:30 at the Bridge City Church at 3910 North Henry Boulevard. Come out and learn about the facts about the annexation referendum, neighborhoods in the proposed area, benefits of Stockbridge Annexation and proposed council districts. Please join Councilman Alezar. [2:53:35, 2:53:55]: For the Town Hall, Stockbridge Amphitheater, Thursday, October 27th, 7 p.m. to discuss economic development, business opportunities, and public safety. It's a free event. And please join Councilwoman Gantt for her annual fall festival taking place Saturday, October 29th from noon to 4 p.m. at Clark Park. It's a free event. [2:53:55, 2:53:58]: Upcoming concerts this Friday, matter of fact, Charlie Wilson. [2:53:58, 2:54:03]: All right, October fourteenth and uh tickets are going fast, gonna be sold out. [2:54:03, 2:54:23]: concert I would imagine and it's gonna be off the chain. Key Sweat Saturday October 29th and I'm pretty sure that'd be close to sold out if not a sold-out concert as well. And then Rick Springfield and Tommy Tutone Sunday October 30th with the last concert of the year. We're looking forward for that one to be sold out as well. Congratulations to Henry Kelly [2:54:23, 2:54:26]: [10466.9, 10468.8]: So we got a fantastic chamber here. [2:54:29, 2:54:43]: And next is my comments. And first I'd like to say congratulations, of course, to Atlanta Braves for getting in the playoffs again. Surely hoping I'm pretty sure most of you would hope that they will continue on and look forward to them becoming World Series championships back-to-back years. [2:54:43, 2:54:48]: And uh really hope that uh mister Michael Harris, which is a stockbridge resident. [2:54:48, 2:54:50]: Right? Becomes rook of the year. [2:54:50, 2:54:52]: I mean that'd be fantastic if that happened for'em. [2:54:53, 2:55:13]: And then if that happened well regardless of what happens, we're gonna have to come and bring him to City Hall and and give'em the key to the city or something, do something for the gentleman here, right? All right. COVID nineteen is still over on folks. So Henry County Health Department, one thirty five Henry Parkway, you get the Pfizer Mederma vaccines and that's Monday to Friday and nine A. M. to eleven thirty or [2:55:13, 2:55:14]: one PM to two thirty. [2:55:15, 2:55:35]: And 470-664-0005. Make an appointment. Free testing. It still goes on for COVID-19 in Red Hawk Field. Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 PM. And of course, C D C D C recommends that you receive your second booster. If you only had one booster, I wouldn't [2:55:35, 2:55:43]: Let you know thus far for the Henry County, there have been for COVID 19, there have been 54,041 people with confirmed cases that we know of. [2:55:44, 2:56:04]: Unfortunately, been 666 confirmed deaths and 2,810 folks have been hospitalized in over the course of these last two and a half years. Let's see here. And on that note, I'm going to give some additional time, you know, to Miss Barber. She had a fantastic event this past uh couple days ago and like for her to explain what [2:56:04, 2:56:18]: happened here with her event there. Go ahead please ma'am. Thank you, Mayor Forg. I want to give a special shout out to um Amanda Reeves, the executive director of Hands of Hope, Chair Carlotta Herrell. [2:56:18, 2:56:24]: Um Jonathan Penn, the director of Henry County Parks and Recreation. [2:56:24, 2:56:27]: Um Otis Key, um the assistant. [2:56:27, 2:56:36]: Director of Parks and Rec and our own uh executive assistant to mayor and counsel, Rosalind Rawls, on helping me um to [2:56:37, 2:56:38]: Uh plan [2:56:38, 2:56:44]: this inaugural kickball charity event benefiting Hands of Hope Clinic. [2:56:44, 2:57:04]: I wanted to do something fun, something fun that would bring us all together. We're Stockbridge, where community connects. So thank you, thank you, thank you all so very much for your support of the inaugural Kickball Charity event on Saturday. Um, with your support, we exceeded our fundraising. [2:57:04, 2:57:10]: raising goal, we raised over twenty-three thousand dollars and had fun while doing it. [2:57:10, 2:57:18]: We also accomplished the mission to spread public awareness of Hands of Hope Clinic and the services that they provide to Heron County residents. [2:57:19, 2:57:23]: Although our fundraising efforts have concluded for this inaugural kickball event. [2:57:23, 2:57:25]: It is my hope that each of you can [2:57:25, 2:57:27]: We'll continue to spread the word. [2:57:27, 2:57:30]: about the amazing work of Hans of Hope Clinic. [2:57:30, 2:57:32]: It's administrative staff. [2:57:32, 2:57:52]: as well as the phenomenal medical professionals who make tremendous sacrifices by volunteering their time, expertise, and efforts to meet the needs of those who are uninsured and or underserved with medical, dental, mental health counseling services during these challenging times. [2:57:52, 2:57:54]: Whether you donate it financially or [2:57:55, 2:58:15]: Signed up to play on the team, assisted in planning this event, or even helped spread the word. Your support helped to make this event a success. With gratitude, I'm thankful. Um, congratulations once again, Henry County Water Authority, on your championship win, and I'm looking forward to us um [2:58:14, 2:58:21]: continuing this each year. I also want to challenge um all the other cities. [2:58:21, 2:58:28]: Please um acknowledge the work of nonprofits throughout our county. Um they are [2:58:29, 2:58:49]: Unsung heroes that we need to know about, recognize their efforts and the impact that they have here in our community. They provide resources, services such as Because We Care, nonprofit. We have Connecting Henry, who's also a nonprofit. [2:58:49, 2:59:09]: Here in Henry County, we've got the Southern Um Veteran Services, it's also a nonprofit organization. Um, if we could uh ask all cities throughout Henry County to please bring awareness to those nonprofits so that everybody in our county would be aware of them. So thank you, Mayor Ford. I appreciate you. [2:59:09, 2:59:11]: Allowing the time. Fantastic. Okay. [2:59:13, 2:59:16]: On that note, Council, I need a motion to go in executive session, please. [2:59:17, 2:59:21]: We do? Yes yes, ma'am, we d actually do. I'm sorry, but we do. [2:59:22, 2:59:30]: I move that we for what? Personnel handle. I move that we go into the executive session for personnel litigation and real estate. [2:59:30, 2:59:32]: Is there a second? [2:59:32, 2:59:34]: Okay, Miss Barber Seconds. All favor, please indicate. [2:59:35, 2:59:39]: Okay, thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back from a sake session. Thank you. [2:59:41, 2:59:42]: [10789.0, 10790.5]: Yeah, we're we're we're all here. [2:59:51, 2:59:54]: Okay, council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. [2:59:55, 2:59:58]: So moved. Okay. Second. Okay. All favor, please indicate. [3:00:00, 3:00:20]: I need a motion to reconvene a council meeting, please. So moved. Second. All right. And from our executive session, we have all favor, I'm sorry, excuse me. All favor. This is the unanimous decision. Thank you very much. I'm trying to rush too much, I suppose. Anyway, we have uh something to mention and to bring forward from our executive session. Ms. Barber, please. [3:00:20, 3:00:20]: Yeah. [3:00:20, 3:00:27]: Mayor Ford, I motion to approve the one year renewal of employment agreement with Police Chief Frank Tramer. Second. [3:00:28, 3:00:30]: Okay, fantastic. All in favor, please indicate. [3:00:31, 3:00:43]: All right. Congratulations to Chief Tramor. And uh now council need a motion to end our uh council meeting, please. So my second. Okay, all favor please indicate. Outstanding. Good night everybody. [3:00:43, 3:00:45]: God bless you.

--- title: Special Called Meeting date: 2022-10-03 source: 2022-10-03_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:03]: Okay. We are now recording. [0:00:20, 0:00:23]: And we're now back on Facebook Live, ladies and gentlemen. [0:00:46, 0:00:50]: I'll tell you what we do. Uh actually we have [0:00:50, 0:00:59]: We actually have a quorum. So this is we actually have a quorum. So on that note, uh council, I need a motion to end the executive session, please. [0:00:59, 0:01:05]: So move. Okay, okay, Mayor Pro Tender, Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [0:01:06, 0:01:11]: Thank you very much. Now I need a motion to reconvene our special call meeting, please. [0:01:11, 0:01:13]: So move. Okay. [0:01:13, 0:01:18]: Sec second, Mr. Alexander. Okay, Mare Protellant to Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [0:01:19, 0:01:36]: All right, then ladies and gentlemen, we have nothing to report from this from our executive session at this time. So now I need a motion to end our special call meeting, please. So move. Okay. Second. Okay. Mayor Protect Thomas to uh Mr. Alexander. Okay. On that note, all in favor, please indicate. [0:01:37, 0:01:40]: All right. And thank you very much. Good night. God bless you all. See you soon. [0:01:40, 0:01:41]: Bye. [0:01:42, 0:01:45]: All right. Goodbye. Good night. Good night. [0:01:51, 0:01:57]: All right. Now we're now recording. I'll tell you what, uh we actually let's do this. We got attorneys. Okay. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: Uh where's the city manager? [0:02:04, 0:02:05]: Oh. [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: Make a four. [0:03:27, 0:03:37]: Yes, sir. Is Mr. Young over is he here? I I'm on the line right now with him. He's got some problems. So I'm just uh waiting to see if he can solve his problem before we get started. [0:03:38, 0:03:39]: Thank you. You're welcome. [0:04:34, 0:04:35]: Mm short. [0:04:38, 0:04:39]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:00, 0:05:12]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, uh let's uh let's get started here. I have 604 and I'd like to call this special call meeting uh to order. Uh this is October third, Monday, October third, twenty twenty two. [0:05:12, 0:05:13]: And Mr. Blount. [0:05:14, 0:05:17]: I noticed a last minute request, but could you give the invocation tonight, uh sir? [0:05:19, 0:05:20]: Yes, sir. [0:05:20, 0:05:21]: All right, please, thank you. [0:05:23, 0:05:28]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we come to you tonight. God, first of all, thank you for your grace and we thank you for your mercy. [0:05:29, 0:05:39]: We ask right now, Heavenly Father, in your presence that you would continue to guide our hearts and our minds, that we would make the decision for this great city that we call Stockbridge, Heavenly Father, that we would continue to move this city forward. [0:05:39, 0:05:43]: empowers as leaders, God, that we would continue to be steadfast and [0:05:44, 0:05:53]: And move everything in that that that first will be pleasing in your sight. We thank you, God, for the citizens. We ask Heavenly Father you continue to keep those and protect those that have suffered from the storms, Heavenly Father in Florida. [0:05:54, 0:05:55]: And up the east coast. [0:05:56, 0:06:07]: So we ask Heavenly Father right now you continue to be with us and keep us. And we will definitely give you all the grace and all the honor, Heavenly Father. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Could you please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? [0:06:10, 0:06:21]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:23, 0:06:25]: Madam Clerk, roll call please. [0:06:26, 0:06:27]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: May approach him Thomas. [0:06:30, 0:06:30]: President. [0:06:30, 0:06:32]: Councilman Alexander. [0:06:32, 0:06:33]: Where is it? [0:06:33, 0:06:34]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:34, 0:06:35]: Is it? [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: Council Member Blount. [0:06:37, 0:06:37]: Present. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:40, 0:06:41]: Friends. [0:06:42, 0:06:50]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Oh, fantastic. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need adoption of the agenda for this evening, please. [0:06:53, 0:06:56]: Motion to move up. Ms. Can't so moves there a second. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: Second. [0:06:57, 0:06:59]: Mr. Blount second, all in favor, please indicate. [0:07:00, 0:07:04]: Aye. All right. Announced decision. Thank you very much. [0:07:04, 0:07:08]: Um now I need a motion to go in executive session, please. [0:07:10, 0:07:13]: Mayor I I move that we go into executive session for personnel. [0:07:14, 0:07:34]: Thank you, sir. Second. Second. This uh Mr. Blount second. I mean Mr. Thomas sectors that all in favor, please indicate. Aye. Okay. Fantastic. Okay, so you now see. All right. So we'll go into executar session. That means uh Ms. Holliday, you will have to send uh of course a different link to everybody and we'll see you in the executive session. And Mayor Pro Tem, I was not talking to young [0:07:34, 0:07:38]: I misunderstood you. I was talking to Mr. Gardner. Mr. Yo Young will join us in the second session, sir. [0:07:39, 0:07:42]: Thank you. Okay. I'll see you on a second session.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2022-09-27 source: 2022-09-27_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:20]: This is the city's portion of the franchise agreement. We have to pay for the relocation of the lighting infrastructure on uh South Lee Street and East Atlanta Road. The city has already signed the Make Ready Agreement with Georgia Power, which put them on notice to start developing the project that we were told when. [0:00:20, 0:00:40]: When we met with them uh that it'll be three to four weeks before they uh relocate the lighting infrastructure, but this is formalizing and authorizing the city to pay their franchise agreement share to Georgia Power for the relocation of the infrastructure. And this is with [0:00:39, 0:00:47]: within the the splash four that was allocated for the Lee Street East Atlanta Road improvements. [0:00:48, 0:01:01]: Uh Councilman Blount. I'd like to approve the two um I'd like to for us to go ahead and approve the uh two hundred five thousand six hundred and eight dollars for the uh re uh relocation agreement for East Atlanta Road. [0:01:02, 0:01:03]: I said. [0:01:03, 0:01:04]: A second. [0:01:05, 0:01:06]: I in a in a discussion [0:01:08, 0:01:08]: I'm sorry. [0:01:09, 0:01:11]: Me, Lakeisha. [0:01:12, 0:01:13]: In a discussion. [0:01:14, 0:01:15]: All in favor? [0:01:18, 0:01:20]: You know, uh okay. [0:01:21, 0:01:25]: Um agenda item [0:01:25, 0:01:26]: Um [0:01:27, 0:01:34]: Oh oh eleven. [0:01:35, 0:01:44]: Yes, thank you. No, it just seemed like we got some other discussion going on and I just wanna make sure that uh that that's not gonna happen on my watch. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: Okay. [0:01:49, 0:01:58]: All right. Okay. We we're moving on. Um council um Madam Klerk, you was you was saying something? No. [0:02:04, 0:02:05]: Okay, um [0:02:07, 0:02:09]: Presentation. This is a presentation [0:02:10, 0:02:13]: for counsel regarding the agreement with Georgia Power. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: And the Stanton Electorate. [0:02:17, 0:02:29]: to provide electric charging station at City Hall and the amphitheater installation cost sixty two thousand nine hundred and fifteen provided by Georgia Power presented by [0:02:30, 0:02:33]: Brecker Carter and Deshes Aaron. [0:02:33, 0:02:53]: Yes, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem. Uh I think when during the construction of the amphithe amphitheater, one of the the main items was the installation of electric charging stations. So we're currently having the five stations installed, but like I said, I wasn't on this project when it originally started, but we never formalized [0:02:53, 0:03:09]: the cost for the amp for the uh charging stations. This is for the actual charging stations themselves. The infrastructure is uh provided by Georgia Power and their uh one of their contractors. [0:03:15, 0:03:15]: Mm. [0:03:17, 0:03:26]: In uh in in addition though No, I w I was gonna say that the the sixty two thousand is nothing that we're paying out. That's the cost is coming from Georgia Powell. [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: Um [0:03:27, 0:03:47]: As you know, states and local governments and other entities were given monies to look at charging stations and sustainability and all of that stuff. So the Public Safety Commission, I think, got like five billion dollars and they've now allotted those money through Georgia Power, who is our power provider in the city of Stockbridge. [0:03:48, 0:03:49]: Um [0:03:49, 0:03:52]: to allow for us to work on this project with Georgia Powell. [0:03:53, 0:04:13]: Um so we will get those charging stations at no cost. The city's not putting up any cost whatsoever. Um as it relates to this, it's an opportunity for us to actually make some money. Well, there is a cost associated with it. Um it does not exceed twelve thousand dollars a year, fourteen thousand dollars a year, um, and that's just to pay for the operation. [0:04:13, 0:04:28]: and maintenance, but we will also get revenue because if we charge for fueling anything above whatever that rate is, and we'll work with Georgia Power to determine that, that's how we gain revenue. So it actually is a g revenue gain for the city as well, potentially. [0:04:30, 0:04:40]: And we see it as a good fit. It hits that goal that we talked about during our strategic plan about being sustainable. And this is one of those goals and this is one way for us to be able to achieve that sustainability. [0:04:41, 0:05:01]: I mean, that's good and awesome. I definitely um I'm definitely uh you know, we we're definitely going coming into the uh coming to our own with what we need to do in the city. I just wish that in the future we would put that item in uh presentation since there's really no uh no nothing needed from council on this other than l uh awareness, right? Right. And I and [0:05:01, 0:05:21]: And that's why it was changed to a presentation because ultimately the you know, the the cost didn't exceed whatever the authorization was for us to be able to do it, um, administratively, but you know, we we understood that someone was gonna ask a question, What's going on over there in the parking lot? They're putting in those charging stations. Georgia Power's paying sixty two thousand for it, Stanton Electric is putting it in. [0:05:22, 0:05:25]: I I don't have just one concern, I'll make it real brief. [0:05:25, 0:05:25]: Okay. [0:05:26, 0:05:27]: The location. [0:05:27, 0:05:32]: What went into deciding that particular location. And my concern is [0:05:32, 0:05:34]: Eliminating [0:05:35, 0:05:36]: Parking spaces [0:05:37, 0:05:50]: when we actually need those parking space in that location. But and I just wanted to throw that out. It's right there. [0:05:50, 0:05:53]: And that was the reason why without having to dig up to put [0:05:53, 0:05:59]: put it somewhere else. Okay. That was the reason why we would have had to destroy landscaping and some other stuff to [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Drudge [0:06:01, 0:06:06]: and get power from another source. But if you look, there's a transformer sitting right over from [0:06:06, 0:06:09]: From this and they're piggybacking off of that. Okay. [0:06:09, 0:06:11]: Uh any other questions, concerns? [0:06:13, 0:06:26]: Well we'll be getting those spaces back, if you will, Mayor Petit. We'll be getting those spaces back with the completion on Lee Street. And that project does it. Plus you also gotta realize if someone, you know, hopefully I'm gonna be one that's gonna own an electric vehicle. [0:06:27, 0:06:31]: Um at our city hall in East Point, we had four charging stations. [0:06:31, 0:06:35]: Not that everybody who had a electron car parked in it. [0:06:35, 0:06:50]: 'Cause people did violate d did it. So um but it at least allow for those folks who have those Teslas and and some of the new electric vehicles that you see coming online will be able to come in, park, charge, go into the amphitheater, enjoy themselves, unplug and leave. [0:06:51, 0:07:06]: Okay, now this is a presentation so we don't need to take any action. Okay, any other questions, concerns on this item? Uh we we have we did motion to uh agenda item in executive session. I would run through [0:07:06, 0:07:15]: the mayor's comments uh as quick as I can and we'll go to executive session. Um [0:07:18, 0:07:31]: Time to look at the time. Okay. Um any any issues, any concerns before I run through these? Okay. Um City Council meeting the second month of each month, City Hall. [0:07:31, 0:07:51]: Uh can a council chamber october the 10th. Uh council meeting 5 30 p.m. the second month of each month, City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, uh City Hall, October 10th, Main Street Advisory Board meeting the second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. Uh City Hall Levi Meeting Room [0:07:51, 0:08:11]: October 14th. Downtown Development Authority meeting, 6 p.m. Zoom, Tuesday of each month, October 18th. U Council Advisory Committee meeting, 6:30 p.m. The third Tuesday of each month to leave our room October the 18th. [0:08:11, 0:08:31]: City Council Work Session Tuesday at 6 p.m. City Hall Chamber October the 25th. Planning Commission meeting the fourth Thursday at 6.30 p.m. City Hall. Council Chamber October the 27th. Upcoming city event. [0:08:31, 0:08:45]: and initiative. Continuous salute to veterans. Please follow your pictures of veterans, include the name, branch, rank, to Mayor Pro Tem and submit them to Rosalind Ross. [0:08:45, 0:09:02]: Uh please join Councilwoman Barber for a free Zoom every Saturday morning at Clark Community Park, 8 a.m. Please join Councilwoman Barber as she kicked healthcare. [0:09:02, 0:09:03]: Yeah, put him. [0:09:05, 0:09:11]: Our kickball charity event is being postponed until next Saturday, October eighth. [0:09:12, 0:09:17]: Okay, um please note that the [0:09:18, 0:09:20]: Kickball. [0:09:21, 0:09:26]: Which was scheduled for this Saturday has been postponed until [0:09:27, 0:09:27]: Give us a date. [0:09:28, 0:09:29]: October eighth. [0:09:29, 0:09:32]: October the eighth. [0:09:33, 0:09:38]: Okay, thank you. Um Main Street. [0:09:39, 0:09:59]: Will host a movie on the City Hall lawn featuring Spider-Man Saturday, October the 7th. Uh the fun starts at 7 p.m. Uh the City of Stockbridge will host an in-person annexation town hall meeting at Monarch Village Clubhouse, 2:40 Monarch Village. [0:09:59, 0:10:02]: village way stock bridge um [0:10:04, 0:10:16]: Please join Councilman Alexander for a town hall at the Stockbridge Amphitheater Thursday, October the twenty-seventh at seven PM to discuss economic development, business opportunities. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Public safety. [0:10:18, 0:10:23]: Please join Councilwoman Gantt for her annual fall festival. [0:10:24, 0:10:29]: Taking place Saturday, October the twenty ninth, at twelve noon. [0:10:29, 0:10:32]: Not ten. I'm sorry. It's at twelve noon, not ten AM. [0:10:33, 0:10:33]: Okay. [0:10:34, 0:10:52]: Taking place Saturday, October the twenty-ninth from twelve noon to four p.m. Okay. Um upcoming concert. Uh Hispanic Fest has been postponed until [0:10:54, 0:11:10]: It was scheduled for this Saturday, October the 1st. It has been postponed. There's no further date. Charlie Wilson in concert Friday, October the 14th. Stockbridge Amphitheater. Key Sweat in concert Saturday, October the 29th. [0:11:11, 0:11:13]: Rick Springfield [0:11:13, 0:11:16]: In concert Sunday, October the thirtieth. [0:11:17, 0:11:18]: Um [0:11:18, 0:11:24]: Can I get a motion for to end regular session and go into executive session? [0:11:27, 0:11:28]: Second. I second. [0:11:29, 0:11:33]: Okay. I'm sorry. I move that we go into executive session for real estate personnel and litigation. [0:11:33, 0:11:36]: In the discussion, all in favor? [0:11:38, 0:11:38]: Opposed. [0:11:40, 0:11:41]: Thank you. [0:11:43, 0:11:44]: Stop talking to it. [0:11:58, 0:12:02]: That means we feel like it says zero. [0:12:02, 0:12:04]: Mm-hmm. It's cold. [0:12:06, 0:12:07]: Right here. [0:12:17, 0:12:18]: Okay. [0:12:19, 0:12:22]: Ready, he read it, she read it. You read it, Madam Cook. Yes. [0:12:27, 0:12:32]: Council, I need a motion to end executive session. So moved. [0:12:33, 0:12:34]: Okay. [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: In a discussion. [0:12:37, 0:12:38]: All in favor? [0:12:39, 0:12:41]: Now I need a motion to resume. [0:12:42, 0:12:43]: So moved. [0:12:44, 0:12:46]: Second. Any discussion? [0:12:50, 0:12:53]: Academy's own uh all face. [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: Now I need a motion to adjoin. [0:12:56, 0:13:01]: Mayor Pro Tem, um I would like to make a motion to approve [0:13:01, 0:13:11]: I would like to make a motion to approve the um city for potential litigation of loss in STS in conjunction with other Henry County municipalities. [0:13:11, 0:13:12]: Second. [0:13:12, 0:13:14]: Any discussion? [0:13:15, 0:13:16]: All in favor? [0:13:17, 0:13:37]: Mayor Pro Tem. Yes. I would like to make a motion that we um approve uh adding three positions to create an in house information technology department. Um and one position is recommended in twenty two twenty two budget and the other positions are to be considered in the twenty twenty three budget year. [0:13:38, 0:13:41]: Second. Uh any discussion? [0:13:42, 0:13:43]: All in favor? [0:13:45, 0:13:47]: Pose? Abstain. [0:13:47, 0:13:48]: I have stayed. [0:13:49, 0:13:50]: Mayor Pro Tem. [0:13:51, 0:13:52]: Wait, wait, wait a minute. [0:13:54, 0:13:55]: Is it? [0:13:55, 0:13:59]: Well we got three in favor. Okay. So motion carry. [0:14:00, 0:14:10]: Mayor Pro Tem? Yes. I motion that we adjourn our regular scheduled work session meeting. So moved. Any discussion? All in favor? Meeting adjoined.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2022-09-20 source: 2022-09-20_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:14]: All right. Hello everyone. This is the uh Downtown Development Authority meeting for September the twentieth. And uh we will start off with a roll call. Uh Mr. Bog, would you mind calling roll? [0:00:21, 0:00:24]: And Bob, I'm not hearing you, but I do see your arm. [0:00:38, 0:00:40]: And I'm not sharing Bob um [0:00:42, 0:00:48]: I'll go ahead and call roll. Um, so um councilman Alexander. [0:00:49, 0:00:50]: R present. [0:00:51, 0:00:53]: All right, Roger Custon, I'm here. [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Uh Frangela Merit. [0:00:55, 0:00:57]: Angela Mary is present. [0:00:57, 0:01:02]: Thank you. Barber Richardson indicated she would be absent. [0:01:07, 0:01:10]: All right, um, Maxwell Sears. [0:01:14, 0:01:15]: Not yet arrived. [0:01:17, 0:01:30]: And Bob's wife is so um Bob, I don't hear you. I I need uh maybe if you're able to hear us, maybe you can indicate your acknowledgement in the chat uh to say you're here. [0:01:30, 0:01:33]: Uh, we'll need a quorum to proceed with the meeting. [0:01:34, 0:01:35]: And um [0:01:36, 0:01:50]: While Bob is responding, I'll um I'll also acknowledge that we have um uh guest participants, uh Emily Smith and Alan Durham from the Georgia Tech Innovation Institute. Thank you for being here. And we also have uh [0:01:50, 0:01:56]: Uh as always, uh Vanessa Holliday, uh our city clerk. So thank you all for participating. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Go ahead. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: All right. [0:02:03, 0:02:10]: Um let me s okay, he's trying to come back in, it looks like Roger. Yeah, I see that. We'll give him a moment. Thank you all. [0:02:13, 0:02:16]: Bob, if you hear us, we see you've joined again. [0:02:17, 0:02:19]: Yeah, can you all hear me? [0:02:20, 0:02:22]: I hear you a little distant. Go ahead, Bob. [0:02:23, 0:02:36]: Okay. Yeah, I'm I'm here. I've I've been I've had some computer problems here. So I I can see y'all. Um that's I've been frantically trying to get to get back in for the last few minutes. So I apologize for the delay, but yeah, I've been trying to get in. [0:02:37, 0:02:40]: No worries. Thank you for I can I can hear y'all. [0:02:40, 0:02:50]: And we hear you now much clearer, so thank you. So we'll go ahead um and mark you as present. And uh also we are have been joined by Kira Harris Braggs. [0:02:51, 0:02:53]: And I think that's everyone who's on [0:02:54, 0:03:04]: If I missed anybody, please let me know. So I think that uh constant uh there are four members present, so we that constitutes a quorum. So we're able to uh start the meeting at 6.07 p.m. [0:03:05, 0:03:08]: Oh Bob, I've got your camera as well now. So thanks. [0:03:09, 0:03:29]: Um, so as most of you know, we need to start off the order a little bit differently this time to um ask for um the board's approval for the virtual meeting resolution. I shared that with you all earlier this week. It is a draft resolution prepared by our attorney that um draws on the um [0:03:29, 0:03:49]: The federal um executive order of um of a health emergency uh enabling government entities to um utilize that to um allow for virtual meetings. Once this resolution is passed, it's it it stays. [0:03:49, 0:04:09]: Um persistent, even though even if the executive order is rescinded or or expires, this order, this resolution could stay persistent as long as this board wishes to maintain it. [0:04:09, 0:04:10]: I like to make a um [0:04:11, 0:04:20]: Uh a motion to approve the uh virtual meeting uh resolution as presented by our attorney shared with this uh team earlier uh this week. [0:04:22, 0:04:23]: Uh second. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: Thank you, Bon. [0:04:27, 0:04:29]: Any discussion or questions about the resolution? [0:04:34, 0:04:41]: Let me go ahead and bring it up. I've got it now. And um I will while I'm bringing that up, I'll also add that um [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: They're [0:04:42, 0:04:49]: Is a requirement which we've included in today's agenda that the um [0:04:50, 0:05:10]: That there would be a legend added to the public meeting notice. And as you can see, this is where the um the authority for the declaration is based on a federal declaration. And um, you know, COVID remains a health concern and so forth. It also there's an acknowledgement here that the DDA had. [0:05:10, 0:05:30]: Um and as we have and noted in our meeting minutes, as this discussion has been ongoing, we've had regular um discussion points and undocumented our meeting minutes that we it is our intent to continue in a virtual format until we decide otherwise. And that's acknowledged here in this last uh pair. [0:05:30, 0:05:30]: Paragraph. [0:05:31, 0:05:35]: So any other um questions or discussions on this point? [0:05:40, 0:05:49]: All right, hearing none, so I will um we'll go ahead and take that to vote. So all those who are in favor of um approving the resolution as stated, please raise your hand. [0:05:51, 0:06:00]: All right, and I see Fran, Bob, um, Elton and myself. I think that passes unanimously with those present. So thank you all. Appreciate you doing that. [0:06:01, 0:06:14]: Let me get rid of that and move to the next item. So we'll move to our regular items to the approve today's agenda. Um, so I'd like to hear a motion to approve today's agenda as shared. [0:06:14, 0:06:17]: Uh earlier this week, along with the attachment items. [0:06:18, 0:06:20]: I motion to approve today's agenda. [0:06:21, 0:06:22]: Thank you, Fran. [0:06:22, 0:06:23]: Second. [0:06:24, 0:06:26]: Thank you, Councilman. Any discussion? [0:06:28, 0:06:31]: Those in favor, please raise your hand to approve today's agenda. [0:06:32, 0:06:46]: All right, that's also unanimous. Thank you. And then uh finally we'll approve the uh August 16th meeting minutes, which I regret. I apologize for sharing that with you so late. It was only shared about an hour ago today. [0:06:46, 0:07:01]: I didn't realize it was not forwarded to you. So I I I I apologize for that. But uh hopefully you've had a chance to review that. If you would like to pause on this item and you know, maybe approve it in their next meeting, no foul with that. Um, you know, I like to give these things to you at least with some. [0:07:02, 0:07:13]: advanced notice you had chance to review it and you know this is not just a rubber stamp thing but um if we're if we're ready to approve to uh the meeting minutes from the August meeting um [0:07:13, 0:07:15]: Well, this would be a bit hard. [0:07:17, 0:07:22]: So Roger, I just want to say I'm I'm not quite ready. Um, I didn't get a chance to review them. [0:07:22, 0:07:23]: All right. [0:07:23, 0:07:32]: Um, well with that, let's go ahead and table that item for our next meeting and um we'll we'll come back to that. So appreciate that. Thank you. [0:07:32, 0:07:49]: Um that brings us to the next item on the agenda, which is our guest speakers from uh Alan and uh Alan Durham and Emily Smith with from the Center for Economic Development Research Enterprise Innovation Institute with the Georgia Tech. Did I say all that right? You did, you're hired. [0:07:49, 0:08:09]: All right. So we'll we'll turn it over to you, but um I imagine you might want to share your screen and or if you want me to share the uh the proposal of the market study, either what would you prefer to do? Uh tell you what, why don't you share the screen um so that I can scroll through the report on my end without making you guys dizzy? [0:08:09, 0:08:11]: Okay. [0:08:11, 0:08:14]: Give me a moment and I will get that going. [0:08:20, 0:08:24]: All right, sure. Has has everyone had a chance to look over the report? [0:08:28, 0:08:30]: Yeah. I see you. [0:08:31, 0:08:32]: I hear you. [0:08:33, 0:08:39]: Oh, I'm I'm talking all on um while I'm mute. Yes, I was able to review it. Okay, great. [0:08:39, 0:08:43]: And um Alan, you just go ahead and guide me if you want me to start on a particular page. [0:08:45, 0:08:47]: Okay. Um actually the uh [0:08:48, 0:08:52]: Yeah, go ahead and get to the the recommendations page. [0:08:53, 0:08:58]: Um it's the conclusion or the over or overview. [0:08:58, 0:09:00]: So it's [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: All right, let me let me find it. Hang on. [0:09:03, 0:09:11]: So it's kind of the key takeaways at the beginning and then there's a conclusion towards the end. Yeah, let's do the key takeaways. All right. [0:09:11, 0:09:12]: Um this [0:09:13, 0:09:14]: Is kind of your [0:09:14, 0:09:15]: Um [0:09:16, 0:09:18]: Your short term work plan. [0:09:18, 0:09:21]: And what you should and should not be doing concerning [0:09:22, 0:09:26]: retail in the downtown and housing in the downtown area. [0:09:26, 0:09:34]: Um, I I'm not gonna go through and read all this stuff to you, but I will point out uh a couple of things here. [0:09:35, 0:09:44]: We were initially asked to look at um a limited number of housing units and a retail component for mixed use redevelopment of downtown. [0:09:44, 0:09:52]: And when we started pulling the numbers, I realized that we couldn't look at that area in isolation from the rest of Stockbridge. [0:09:53, 0:09:56]: And we also couldn't just look at Stockbridge without looking at all of Henry County. [0:09:57, 0:10:02]: Uh so what started off as something relatively small grew to sixty pages. [0:10:03, 0:10:13]: So you you have a lot of data here, but the key takeaways really summarizes, I think, what you need to take into consideration. And let me say this. [0:10:14, 0:10:19]: was absolutely stunned that your retail vacancy rate is so low. [0:10:20, 0:10:23]: One point seven percent after ковід. [0:10:24, 0:10:27]: I I don't know what you guys have done, but you've done something right. [0:10:28, 0:10:29]: Um [0:10:30, 0:10:38]: And as you get further into the report, especially the uh retail leakage analysis, you'll see that uh [0:10:39, 0:10:53]: Not only are you completely meeting the needs of your local residents for a wide variety of goods and services, but you're also attracting people from all over the region to come shopping. [0:10:53, 0:10:57]: Which is fantastic because that means you're getting all of their sales tax revenue. [0:10:58, 0:10:59]: Cha Change. [0:11:00, 0:11:12]: Uh so all I can can really say there is you know keep keep up the good work uh with your highway corridors. Uh they look fantastic, you know, the the landscaping, the sidewalks, the street lighting. [0:11:12, 0:11:19]: Uh, you know, your your code enforcement does a good job keeping track of, you know, repaving in [0:11:19, 0:11:30]: uh parking issues, uh signage. You know, there's always room for improvement, but I I think you guys are are doing a really great job. And that 1.7% vacancy rate really shows that. [0:11:31, 0:11:33]: So uh [0:11:34, 0:11:38]: On this page for the retail highlights, do you have any questions for me? [0:11:43, 0:11:56]: And um I highlighted a few things that just struck at me. So and it just so happens this is the copy I'm sharing. So um forgive that. Um, but you know, I I I was first taken aback that, you know, I noticed that this is, you know. [0:11:57, 0:12:17]: Exceeding, you know, insufficient supply, you know, current demand for motor vehicle parts and dealers, electronics, and appliance stores. Then I realized that this is Stockbridge citywide. And then historic downtown is uh would uh the market would support specialty foods, jewelry. [0:12:17, 0:12:36]: luggage and leather goods basically a lot of the specialty items and then takeaway further in the report I saw was uh drinking places breweries and that type of thing especially as compared to McDonough which is you know where there's actually leakage towards uh that city so I found that very um uh compelling to uh hear that [0:12:37, 0:12:43]: Yeah, so uh as it stands right now, everyone who lives in Stockbridge has to leave Stockbridge to buy a car. [0:12:43, 0:13:03]: Um that's not something that you can fix because the market in your region is already saturated with automobile dealers. Um, so that that shouldn't be a focus and certainly doesn't belong in your downtown area. Right. Um along your highway corridors uh and around the exit, you have [0:13:03, 0:13:07]: have a lot of national chain retailers and restaurants. [0:13:08, 0:13:16]: Um, that's not necessarily a good thing for small businesses. So this list of recommendations that you highlighted. [0:13:16, 0:13:19]: Um I I would encourage you [0:13:20, 0:13:21]: To [0:13:21, 0:13:25]: Focus your downtown retail on mom and pop. [0:13:25, 0:13:29]: local, you know, art galleries, experiential retail. [0:13:29, 0:13:32]: Um i is a growing trend. You know, millennials. [0:13:33, 0:13:46]: And Generation Z don't necessarily like to spend money on things. They like to pay for experiences. Uh, we just worked with another community who has a brand new axe throwing venue. [0:13:47, 0:13:51]: in their downtown and people come to relieve stress and you know throw axes at a target. [0:13:52, 0:13:56]: That's experiential retail that uh I think would work great in a downtown. [0:13:58, 0:14:05]: Very good. Um I'm glad you highlighted that. All right. Uh shall I move on to the next housing highlights? All right. Yep. [0:14:06, 0:14:08]: So again, initially [0:14:09, 0:14:12]: We started looking at a a small [0:14:13, 0:14:20]: uh residential development of about twenty units, then uh when with your LCI consultant. [0:14:20, 0:14:24]: Said wait a minute, we're thinking 200 units. That kind of changed our scope quite a bit. [0:14:25, 0:14:39]: Um but the good news is that given your population increases that are going to be happening, yeah. ARC just found that Henry County was the second fo fastest growing county in Metro Atlanta. [0:14:40, 0:14:41]: Um, so people are moving. [0:14:42, 0:14:44]: to your area and you have [0:14:45, 0:14:48]: I I don't think you're ever gonna be able to meet that housing demand. [0:14:49, 0:14:52]: So the more units that you can get in your downtown. [0:14:52, 0:14:58]: Especially focusing on stuff that you don't already have. You have a lot of single family attached homes. [0:14:59, 0:15:13]: But in your downtown, if you do townhomes, stack condominium units, you know, lifestyle residential and even apartments, which I I I would prefer you steer away from. You're getting saturated with apartments. [0:15:14, 0:15:14]: Um [0:15:15, 0:15:18]: You know, think of splitting up your price points. [0:15:19, 0:15:23]: um in your housing types, in your downtown and push for density. [0:15:25, 0:15:26]: And I'll see you have [0:15:27, 0:15:29]: Uh highlighted new apartments. [0:15:30, 0:15:40]: or leasing between twelve fifty and seventeen fifty per month. So that's the new development that you guys have at the intersection of uh I seventy five. [0:15:40, 0:15:42]: Right. Mm-hmm. [0:15:43, 0:15:49]: So I I I think those are fair and I pulled some data. [0:15:49, 0:15:56]: Later on in the report, so the you can see how we arrived at those numbers based on your average household incomes. [0:15:56, 0:15:57]: In the area. [0:15:58, 0:16:01]: So did you have a a question about those rents? [0:16:01, 0:16:05]: No, I was just highlighting it as a point of interest. [0:16:05, 0:16:23]: I think that'll help us when we start looking at the the, you know, when we because all of this was really to serve as input for a detailed master plan for development for the downtown uh district. Correct. I think that informs the type and scale. [0:16:23, 0:16:28]: um and density of development that we that the that that our market could support. [0:16:29, 0:16:29]: Correct. [0:16:29, 0:16:31]: I I do have um [0:16:31, 0:16:48]: sort of a comment like a hybrid comment question type of deal, right? So um recently um I I participated or attended the downtown development conference for training and it was great by the way. Thank you for sure Stockbridge for that. Um but of course I I definitely got a lot of [0:16:49, 0:16:51]: Great information and it definitely um [0:16:52, 0:17:03]: uh gave me and very insightful. I had some great ideas. This particular report, I believe, is is is amazing. I think this is great work, definitely insightful. [0:17:03, 0:17:06]: And I'm really excited to that we're having this discussion now. So [0:17:07, 0:17:13]: You know, the the number one thing that I was thinking about downtown for sure, we have this beautiful amphitheater, right? [0:17:13, 0:17:21]: Um, it's it is popular, but not everyone is then not everyone is coming still, right? Uh maybe because of the distance, maybe because of [0:17:22, 0:17:42]: You know, whatever the whatever it may be. But the number one thing that I've noticed that I think is a problem area is the spending, right? So you have people, I have friends that live in Sandy Springs, drove all the way to Stockbridge to come see um, you know, a performer. But they drive through, they get on, they get on 675 or 75, get off the exit. [0:17:42, 0:17:58]: exit, go straight to downtown, go to the amphitheater and then leave and don't spend any money as well leaving, right? And I yeah, your your downtown redevelopment definitely needs to capture that crowd and capture spending, but you have to build a unique destination and an experience for them. [0:17:58, 0:18:02]: And that includes, you know, walkable, high density. [0:18:03, 0:18:20]: uh you know storefronts that stay open later at night when the concerts are going on. Um, you know, maybe there's a a painting and wine class available for people after the concert. Uh when you introduce restaurants, you need wide enough sidewalks so that you can have dining outside. [0:18:21, 0:18:24]: Um you have to create a place. [0:18:25, 0:18:26]: Cause right now [0:18:27, 0:18:37]: People might go shopping in Stockbridge, but they drive through Stockbridge. They don't drive to Stockbridge. Right. Your downtown needs to be the destination that will draw people from Sandy Springs. [0:18:37, 0:18:49]: So thank you for that. Let me ask you this question. I know we're speaking of residential, you know, residential um uh property or units, um uh uh in you know and rents and everything else, but what are your thoughts about [0:18:49, 0:18:53]: Um, maybe a a hotel on a smaller scale, right? [0:18:53, 0:19:12]: maybe a 60 20 to 60 room hotel downtown. I don't want to I think um if you left a pad available for that in the future in your downtown that might be possible but you need to build your downtown first and you need to prove that it's a draw. [0:19:13, 0:19:30]: And you need to illustrate to whatever flag that hotel becomes, that there's demand for it. I mean, the amphitheater is certainly a demand driver, but you know, you you have to have a remarkable downtown in order to attract any kind of hotel like that there. So that that's further down the road. [0:19:31, 0:19:33]: But I do think if if you do the project correctly. [0:19:34, 0:19:38]: And create a destination, I I think it could support it in the future. [0:19:38, 0:19:40]: Absolutely. Thank you. [0:19:40, 0:19:43]: Mm-hmm. I will um I will also mention to your point about [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: You know, people are just leaving. They're not um [0:19:47, 0:19:58]: not staying downtown after the concert from our visit to Stockbridge and from our master plan meeting. Um that open green space right there I think is really crucial in connecting. [0:19:59, 0:20:03]: uh the downtown to the amphitheater and thinking about ways that you could [0:20:03, 0:20:05]: You know, make that more of a [0:20:05, 0:20:10]: connection to the downtown and entice people to walk over there because right now it's kind of [0:20:11, 0:20:25]: No man's land, you know. It's there, but it's not utilized. It's dead space, not green space. Right. Right. Right. And I think that's what the master plan will help us um, you know, sort of visualize how how that could take shape. Uh Kira, I see your hand up. [0:20:27, 0:20:44]: Um yes, there were two comments. Um one was in reference to um housing and the um what are your recommendations with regard to uh workforce housing, affordable type housing um in the downtown district. [0:20:45, 0:20:55]: And then um also with regard to that um the green space across from this um city hall building, um we want to be careful that we don't [0:20:56, 0:21:01]: Block the sightlines from the city hall and amphitheater complex. [0:21:02, 0:21:06]: the sight lines to the downtown. So what are your recommendations with regard to that as well? [0:21:07, 0:21:27]: My personal recommendations, but again, this is going to be addressed in your LCI update in your downtown development plan. I think you can build on a portion of that site and have uh, you know, three to five story residential or mixed use, but still maintain a large amount of that green space. Having residential. [0:21:27, 0:21:31]: units right on top of that green space will ensure that it's used. [0:21:31, 0:21:51]: You'll have people leaving those residential units and going out on that green space, which is what you want because it's not being utilized right now. In terms of affordable housing, I would urge caution with that. Um, I think if you look at the statistics throughout the rest of the report, you have affordable housing. You have a lot of the most affordable housing. [0:21:51, 0:21:56]: housing in Henry County and in uh the Metro Atlanta region. [0:21:57, 0:22:05]: I don't think that you need more affordable housing. I think for your downtown area, you need to push the higher end market that is not tested. [0:22:05, 0:22:07]: In your area yet? [0:22:07, 0:22:11]: Um because when you get into workforce housing. [0:22:11, 0:22:14]: you run into a problem with disposable household income. [0:22:15, 0:22:22]: Um, they're not gonna have money to spend eating at the restaurants and shopping in the shops. [0:22:22, 0:22:30]: And I think there's plenty of affordable options all throughout Stockbridge. I I think you need to err on the side of the higher end. [0:22:34, 0:22:35]: Okay, thank you. [0:22:35, 0:22:36]: Okay. [0:22:37, 0:22:44]: All right. Thank you all. Good feedback. Um, all right, Alan or Elmerly, where where would you like me to move to next? [0:22:44, 0:22:55]: Well oh excuse me, I'll not sorry go ahead, Councilman. And understanding that uh I I agree that uh [0:22:55, 0:22:57]: We need to make sure that we have. [0:22:58, 0:22:58]: People. [0:22:59, 0:23:02]: living in downtown that can support [0:23:02, 0:23:04]: uh the efforts of what we're doing. [0:23:04, 0:23:07]: And certainly the LCI was right on point with uh [0:23:07, 0:23:12]: Indicating that that area uh needed to have some type of housing on it. [0:23:12, 0:23:14]: And then I think um [0:23:14, 0:23:34]: uh be we just have to be flexible as you said in terms of uh not all single family housing and I know to some the price increases in Stockbridge has severely impacted affordable housing, but the housing here in Stockbridge is as affordable as anywhere. [0:23:34, 0:23:39]: Uh in Metro Land, but it may not seem that to residents who've been here long term. [0:23:40, 0:24:00]: But in terms of the cost of the single family. But in terms of the townhomes being placed in downtown, of course, some rental units being able to be placed as well to meet in that same price threshold that we indicated on the appointment. [0:24:00, 0:24:08]: Apartments, uh, maybe not on the grand scale, but certainly on a scale that would uh allow because uh uh you know, I think in that same. [0:24:08, 0:24:09]: Study realm is that you [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Young people may not want to buy a home. [0:24:12, 0:24:13]: They might want to rent. [0:24:13, 0:24:15]: So there certainly needs to be something [0:24:16, 0:24:19]: Very nice, high quality, as you say. [0:24:19, 0:24:21]: for college graduates and young professionals. [0:24:21, 0:24:23]: We want to call the area home. [0:24:23, 0:24:25]: Yeah, what what I don't want [0:24:25, 0:24:45]: To see happen in your downtown is to have one developer come in and plop down a 200 unit apartment building at all the same price points. You need to offer a wide variety of ownership, rental, townhomes, stack condominiums. Uh, when you get further away from downtown, you can transition. [0:24:45, 0:24:54]: Uh, you know, to townhomes and clustered single-family lots. That'll be worked out with your LCI update and your downtown master plan. [0:24:55, 0:25:01]: But you don't need just one product at one price point. You need a wide variety of options to include everyone. [0:25:03, 0:25:06]: So we need mixed income. Mixed income. Mm-hmm. [0:25:07, 0:25:10]: I I noticed stocks were on the report that um [0:25:11, 0:25:31]: Uh there was a a statement, I don't remember where it was, I don't know if I could get into it very quickly, but um that the pro that the that the majority of the um housing in Stockbridge has shifted from majority owned to majority rental. Yes. And to me that seemed unsurprising because it [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: And I guess my question to you all would have been. [0:25:34, 0:25:43]: Is isn't is that different from the overall trend in Georgia or the overall trend in the US? I I it seems to me that's just a post-COVID reality. [0:25:44, 0:25:54]: Um I I think for Stockbridge in particular, um neighborhoods and housing has a natural life cycle that it goes through. [0:25:54, 0:26:04]: So if if you have ranch houses that were built in the 70s or 60s, uh maybe the person or family who who lived there has passed away. [0:26:05, 0:26:07]: Um and the family still owns it, but they rent it out. [0:26:08, 0:26:13]: Um, the the older the housing stock, the more likely it is to become rental. [0:26:14, 0:26:19]: And I think just, you know, the your your aging housing stock in Stockbridge, that's a natural consequence of it. [0:26:21, 0:26:25]: Yeah, in and and in regards to that subject, okay, I think [0:26:25, 0:26:27]: As a realtor myself. [0:26:27, 0:26:31]: What we've seen, and I think the metro Atlanta area has seen is [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: Uh investors swooping in. [0:26:33, 0:26:36]: Uh buying up every available property. [0:26:37, 0:26:39]: that's out there. That's what's really driving [0:26:40, 0:26:43]: Uh that rental charge. Henry Counter was one of those at the top of the chart, but [0:26:44, 0:26:46]: Every house that goes on the market. [0:26:46, 0:26:46]: How do you think [0:26:47, 0:26:48]: That's offer on from [0:26:48, 0:26:52]: the investors to buy it and then they turn it turn around and turn into a rental. [0:26:53, 0:26:55]: Yeah. That's a nationwide. [0:26:55, 0:26:59]: problem that's happening right now. I I read a r a report [0:27:00, 0:27:04]: Earlier in the week that says something like eighty percent of the rental units [0:27:05, 0:27:15]: uh in New York City have been bought up by corporations. So you don't have mom and pop property owners anymore. You know, BlackRock is one of the biggest residential investors. [0:27:16, 0:27:21]: And it's really hurting the ability of younger generations to enter into the housing market. [0:27:23, 0:27:24]: Yeah. So [0:27:25, 0:27:25]: Um I [0:27:27, 0:27:30]: I I don't know that anyone could really solve that problem. [0:27:30, 0:27:31]: Right. [0:27:31, 0:27:51]: So so it's I guess it sounds like it's from from from what we're discussing here, it sounds like it's it's both. There's both a sort of a national trend towards um a higher proportion of rental just because of some of the factors we discussed. I mean, is you know, post-recession, uh post-COVID, the investors buying up the the available [0:27:51, 0:28:03]: properties, but it sounds like there's an added factor in Stockbridge because the housing inventory is of an older nature lending itself to a higher proportion towards those forces. [0:28:03, 0:28:09]: Correct. Okay. That makes sense. And and I think uh for the city of Stockbridge. [0:28:10, 0:28:11]: You can [0:28:12, 0:28:16]: to um the tax assessors data for Henry County and find out. [0:28:17, 0:28:25]: Uh, who the owners are that are purchasing these. And I would stick code enforcement on these corporate-owned properties. [0:28:25, 0:28:45]: To make sure the grass does not get one inch tall, you know, to to make sure that they're habitable inside and out, that they meet code. I would stay on top of them more than I would, you know, uh an 86-year-old woman who lives in the same house that she bought in 1975, right? Um, you know, there are things it [0:28:46, 0:28:49]: the the city can do to make sure that that rental [0:28:49, 0:28:54]: that's corporate owned is maintained and not detracting from the neighborhoods. [0:28:57, 0:29:03]: Right. We'll we'll we'll rely on the city team to to help with that part. Yeah. But it's a good idea. [0:29:03, 0:29:19]: Um what else, what other questions do we want to discuss? So I want to leave a few more, you know, I think we can allow a few more minutes for this, but um I know we could we could talk about this for a long time, but I I want to give uh you know allow some time for the other items on our agenda. [0:29:19, 0:29:20]: Sure. [0:29:21, 0:29:23]: Yeah, and if we're crunched for time, um [0:29:23, 0:29:35]: Roger, you you can always take uh questions from the the rest of the directors and just email me. Um so that you know we we don't eat up your entire evening on here. [0:29:36, 0:29:46]: Well, I'm I'm I'm happy to hear from anyone now with any questions if you had a chance to review it and if you have any specific items you want to highlight or comment on or have questions on. [0:29:52, 0:29:58]: Well, let me throw this down to the the the approach that Emily and I took with this was not only [0:29:59, 0:30:05]: What questions do you and your economic development team have? Um, but also [0:30:05, 0:30:08]: What questions do developers have? [0:30:08, 0:30:10]: Mm. So I [0:30:10, 0:30:14]: We approach this report to also be used as a marketing tool. [0:30:16, 0:30:26]: So that you can give this uh to potential retailers in the downtown. I think one of the things that they'll find the most interesting is in the community profile. [0:30:26, 0:30:35]: Um I included your top five tapestry segments. Um the the up-and-coming families, the bright young professionals, the Middleburg. [0:30:36, 0:30:37]: Um [0:30:37, 0:30:45]: That's really going to help your mom and pop businesses that want to open something in your downtown be able to target who that local market is. [0:30:46, 0:30:53]: Um, so don't let this report sit on a shelf, put it out there um to to help with your retail and restaurant recruitment efforts. [0:30:54, 0:31:14]: And well I guess what I'll just interject a question on that topic. Is there any kind of uh confidentiality? Is there any issue with us, you know, putting this out on our public website and allow I mean it's public information from my perspective, it's been purchased by, you know, what's it once once we pay our bill. Yeah, right. Yeah. No, you you purchased this from Georgia Tech. [0:31:14, 0:31:18]: Like you own this document. You can do whatever you want with it. Very good. [0:31:19, 0:31:20]: Um yeah, I uh [0:31:21, 0:31:40]: I'm just I'm happy to hear anyone else's comments, but I'm gonna uh kind of point out a few things I highlighted. I skipped by one. There was um this I found interesting that the industry tends, the total jobs is mostly in in these areas. Um I mean, what does that mean in terms of [0:31:41, 0:32:01]: I guess from from a retail or development perspective, is this just the type of workers that we would need to know to attract to in terms of income levels? What what what what do we draw from this? Well no, what what you draw from that is your your healthcare, obviously your your jobs are growing around the hospital. [0:32:01, 0:32:03]: Hospital with all the doctor's offices. [0:32:05, 0:32:08]: Um transportation warehousing is growing because [0:32:10, 0:32:21]: Everyone uh started purchasing from Amazon during COVID. Right. So they had to ship the goods. Transportation and warehousing with your location on I-75. [0:32:21, 0:32:23]: is a given, you know, all through Henry County. [0:32:24, 0:32:30]: Mm-hmm. Um your your accommodations and food services are growing. You know, uh [0:32:30, 0:32:31]: Think about [0:32:31, 0:32:38]: And there was probably a take down during COVID with all the uh the hotel closures. Um, but that's picked back up. [0:32:38, 0:32:57]: You you've had a lot of new hotels added right around uh the exit ramps. So that's been a growing industry. Your retail is primarily built out. You don't really have room for additional strip malls or a regional shopping mall. That's an outdated model that has gone away anyway. [0:32:58, 0:33:03]: So, you know, retail is is not necessarily, you know, your your your top growers like healthcare and [0:33:04, 0:33:07]: uh transportation and warehousing and hotels. [0:33:08, 0:33:28]: Did that answer your question, Roger? Yeah, that helps a lot. But as far as retail being, you know, tapped out, with the exception of the specialty small business stuff that you were mentioning earlier in the recap, right? I I wouldn't say that it's tapped out. Um, and I I was surprised when I looked into the numbers. You're drawing a lot of people. [0:33:28, 0:33:36]: People regionally into the city limits to utilize these strip malls. What I will caution you with in the future is. [0:33:37, 0:33:39]: Ритал і чангінь. [0:33:39, 0:33:42]: Bricks and mortar stores are going to be going away. [0:33:43, 0:33:48]: It's going to be a lot more online shopping and home delivery in the future. [0:33:48, 0:33:51]: So your vacancy rate, uh especially with [0:33:51, 0:33:55]: you know, a a a recession coming if it's not already here. [0:33:55, 0:33:58]: You're going to see a slowdown in that and [0:33:58, 0:34:04]: When your vacancy rate starts ticking up, you need to start considering something called retail pruning. [0:34:05, 0:34:10]: Um, it's like if you have a tree that's dying, you need to cut the dead branches off so that the rest of it stays healthy. [0:34:11, 0:34:23]: When you are left with an oversupply of retail and high vacancy rates, that's in the future where you put your affordable workforce housing and your higher density apartment complexes on what is today a strip mall. [0:34:25, 0:34:29]: So Alan, I definitely want to ask this to be clear when [0:34:29, 0:34:42]: And as far as retail, um, you know, people are coming from you know outside of the region or different regions to come to uh are you speaking of Henry County in general or is this I'm speaking of Henry County and I I'm speaking of your surrounding counties also. [0:34:43, 0:34:43]: Mm-hmm. [0:34:44, 0:34:46]: I mean it is it's a regional draw. [0:34:46, 0:34:46]: Yeah. [0:34:47, 0:34:58]: Gotcha. And it's so convenient. I mean, it it's right there on seventy-five people uh who live, you know, two counties south of you that have to commute into Atlanta for their job, they're [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: You know, why not stop at Stockbridge to hit [0:35:01, 0:35:03]: You know, what whatever stores that they need. [0:35:04, 0:35:11]: So I I wouldn't say I wouldn't say you're oversaturated because you have such a huge draw from outside of the city. [0:35:11, 0:35:15]: What I what I mean is you don't have room to add more. [0:35:15, 0:35:16]: Right. Got it. Yeah. [0:35:17, 0:35:22]: Well I I I kinda I don't know what I think that's a that's kind of a little [0:35:23, 0:35:25]: Little bit of a disagreement there in terms of [0:35:25, 0:35:33]: uh where we are because as you indicated in your housing stock, there's a room for higher end. [0:35:33, 0:35:35]: 'Cause there's no sprouts here. [0:35:35, 0:35:37]: There's no uh [0:35:37, 0:35:45]: uh upscale retail here. There's a segment of the population that's dying for that. That's taking millions of dollars out of the community. So [0:35:45, 0:35:49]: There is room and hopefully the Jodico development. [0:35:49, 0:35:51]: And the highway one thirty eight development will help. [0:35:52, 0:35:54]: Feel some of that niche, but [0:35:54, 0:36:05]: That's what's really missing is those options uh that can offer a finer quality, a Whole Foods, a Trajo's. [0:36:05, 0:36:08]: Right. Those types of businesses that we lack. [0:36:09, 0:36:22]: in the region, not just in Henry County, where that revenue could really be surged up. So I think the report kind of hit on that in the residential, but you could really duplicate that uh in the in the uh commercial. [0:36:22, 0:36:27]: Yeah, and I again when a retailer uh chooses [0:36:27, 0:36:47]: Put a pin on a map and they draw a radius of one mile, five mile, ten miles, or they look at drive time, five minute commute, thirty uh fifteen minutes, thirty-minute drive to get there, and they look at the income levels and the disposable household income that's available to spend at their retail establishment. So [0:36:47, 0:36:48]: Mm-hmm. [0:36:48, 0:36:59]: You don't have those higher end retail right now because you don't have the high enough income levels with a lot of disposable household income. [0:36:59, 0:37:07]: Which is why I'm trying to steer your housing toward a higher end than what you already have and not focus on workforce at this point. [0:37:07, 0:37:27]: Right. And that's where you come in in terms of the draw because if you did put those businesses here, we really break that model. You've seen it in the data, which is our draw is much greater than the one mile and the three mile, because we're really the first step into uh Metro Atlanta where we would be able to deliver on a lot of those. [0:37:27, 0:37:31]: items. Uh I think I just saw a number from [0:37:31, 0:37:32]: The Henry County [0:37:33, 0:37:53]: uh development authority where they just had some new data that showed I think uh the average income had kind of creeped up to eighty one thousand dollars uh where it was in in the sixties. So it had gone up. And then this segment of the population that's located uh in the southern part of Stock [0:37:52, 0:38:06]: Bridge in the Eagles Landing area. That is a zip code area that runs ranges around$100,000 where that income level is. And that's why the Jodico project is located there. That there will be pockets. [0:38:07, 0:38:09]: In the area where cat can of high. [0:38:09, 0:38:19]: income earners that can actually generate that and the draw will be much greater than the one to three one three five radius. Yeah, absolutely correct. [0:38:20, 0:38:21]: Couldn't agree more. [0:38:22, 0:38:42]: All right. Um so this just highlighting a few things that I think we mentioned earlier residents prefer McDonough to Stockbridge for restaurants and eating places and McDonough far outstrips Stockbridge in this area, you know, which you know legislatively, I think you know the city did pass several years ago. [0:38:42, 0:38:52]: the open container um you know ordinance, uh which I think is favorable to that type of establishment, which just hasn't been, you know, we haven't really gotten the right um [0:38:53, 0:38:57]: uh establishments to um take advantage of that. [0:38:57, 0:39:04]: Um so just some um opportunities, being aggressive in the redevelopment activities. [0:39:04, 0:39:11]: Charlie. Go ahead. And we're positioned very well. Uh in terms of, you know, we talked about [0:39:11, 0:39:16]: Uh you know, making sure that the downtown was walkable with the wide sidewalks. [0:39:16, 0:39:32]: We have$20 million in our East Blas dedicated just to trail. So we hope to build our own Atlanta Beltline type trail system connecting the city. We're working on a master parks plan for the city to do that to identify available parkland for a regional park. [0:39:33, 0:39:47]: uh in the city and to also, you know, we're working on opportunities on tax credits to target the area. Hopefully we should have those in place within the next uh twelve months or so that we could offer that incentive to locate in downtown. [0:39:50, 0:39:55]: All right. Um I'm skipping to the conclusion. Um [0:39:56, 0:40:05]: So I highlighted a few points here, but are there anything you want to um add to this or comment on the uh findings and recommendations from anyone? [0:40:08, 0:40:21]: No, I think I I I again I just want to really just reiterate very quickly because I don't want to necessarily re reiterate and bore anyone with this, but I think this is a definitely an amazing um report. Thank you so much for this. Um [0:40:22, 0:40:24]: Very insightful and I think this will help us. [0:40:25, 0:40:25]: Um [0:40:26, 0:40:35]: get closer to to really um devising a master plan for sure. Um I appreciate that. And if you want to sho shoot me an email so I can let my boss know. Okay. [0:40:36, 0:40:41]: I'll do that. Yeah, I I would appreciate that because I'm up for a big promotion. So that that would help. [0:40:42, 0:40:46]: I love the support. Yes, yes, yes. All right. Yeah. Thank you. [0:40:47, 0:40:53]: All right. Any any other comments or questions um uh for the George Tech team while we have them here. [0:40:55, 0:40:58]: It it it it seems like I mean th th th there's a [0:41:00, 0:41:15]: uh demand for higher end uh particularly with the amphitheater, obviously, I mean for for higher end retail, uh you know, uh nightclubs, restaurants, uh craft breweries, that kind of thing in the downtown area. Yeah. And um [0:41:16, 0:41:24]: So I I don't think it's a case of, you know, w w you know we we build it and hope that they come. I think I think they're already here or they're already um [0:41:25, 0:41:28]: willing to come here if if if we have it available for them. [0:41:29, 0:41:33]: The the demand exists already. The product is not there yet. [0:41:35, 0:41:37]: Okay. So so build it and they [0:41:38, 0:41:42]: They'll show up. They're they're already there. They're looking for it, but it's not available yet. [0:41:45, 0:41:45]: Okay, yeah. [0:41:46, 0:41:54]: So it's a little bit different from the if you build it the the field of dreams thing, if you build it, they will come. I mean, they're already here and w we just need to build it for them. [0:41:56, 0:42:05]: Yeah, well I mean they'll they'll they'll come to the brewery if you build it. That's what I'm saying. I'll come to the brewery. I'll come see a show and go to the brewery. Right. [0:42:06, 0:42:13]: I I would love to share this part too. I mean, when when I went to Macon a couple of few weeks ago for the um DDA. [0:42:13, 0:42:21]: Conference. One thing that I did notice about Macon and the way that it's growing downtown, or they revitalize in a certain part. [0:42:21, 0:42:24]: Um focusing on the residential, you know. [0:42:25, 0:42:45]: of units, um, building lofts, um maybe 28, 30 unit lofts, right? Um and then of course, um, I mean, and that's kind of how I got the idea about building a hotel, but I totally get that. We gotta we gotta bring that draw in first before we can bring in hospitality. But um a brewery is there. [0:42:45, 0:42:52]: um s you know super popular there. I think with those two alone, you know, and then also [0:42:53, 0:42:57]: creating this I know we're talk speaking of high end. [0:42:57, 0:43:10]: But also, you know, you know, sharing this, um, how am I trying to say, or express or sharing this type of idea to those who are mom and pop owners that there is a safe place. [0:43:10, 0:43:12]: in downtown for them to come. [0:43:13, 0:43:19]: as well and and do business there as well. Um I I just think that looks great. Yeah. [0:43:19, 0:43:22]: Um, and I think it's great it's good business. So [0:43:23, 0:43:37]: Yeah, and that that's that's why I included um the comp communities in this report. I wanted you to see that other people have already taken the chance and it's worked and it's paid off elsewhere. There's no reason that you can't pull this off as well. [0:43:37, 0:43:37]: For sure. [0:43:39, 0:43:39]: Well. [0:43:41, 0:43:50]: Any other thing to the fact that we have a police police department now. So I mean that that obviously that that helps tremendously with the the whole safety issue. I mean, I think they're doing a good job. So [0:43:50, 0:43:52]: Good. Great. I agree. [0:43:53, 0:43:58]: Both both in reality and perceptually, you know. [0:43:58, 0:44:16]: So Roger, is there anything in the report that needs to be changed or edited before I submit the final version of it for you? Um the uh there there was an item that was um called out as far as um oh shoot, I should have made a note of it. Um [0:44:17, 0:44:37]: You can you can send it to me in an email and I'll go ahead and edit it and send you the final draft so that you can get it on your website and you know it was it was the it was the point that councilman made that you know and maybe it's in there but maybe not emphasized enough the the parallel as far as the it's not just a demand for higher end in terms of housing. [0:44:37, 0:44:43]: but there's um there's there are there are favorable conditions as far as higher end in terms of retail. [0:44:44, 0:44:47]: Okay. I think it would be helpful to [0:44:47, 0:45:00]: sort of you know put a point on that um so you know we can point to it for any potential developer saying, you know, this is the place, this is where it's needed. There, there's a hole here that needs to be filled for that type of market. [0:45:01, 0:45:03]: Both in terms of retail and housing. [0:45:03, 0:45:04]: Okay. [0:45:04, 0:45:06]: Yeah, I I can add that with no problem. [0:45:06, 0:45:07]: Great. [0:45:08, 0:45:11]: That's the only thing I can think of. Is there anything else that we miss from anyone? [0:45:14, 0:45:33]: Um great job to you and the team, Emily. I imagine you were doing a lot of the work uh because you've been in many of the meetings. So we appreciate every everyone's effort on this. It's it's it's a it's a really great um really great asset for us to have this report for us and then help us uh in our efforts to um um to to serve our mission. So that thank you for the work. [0:45:34, 0:45:37]: Oh very good. I'm always happy to help. [0:45:37, 0:45:38]: Right. [0:45:39, 0:45:40]: All right. [0:45:41, 0:46:01]: I'm going to stop sharing there and with that we will move on to the next item on the agenda, which is uh All right. So we're we'll go ahead and step out then. Oh sure. Yeah, I'm sorry. Thank you again for being here. And um yeah, you're welcome to drop off. Okay. Feel free to email me with any questions you might have, Roger. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks everybody. [0:46:01, 0:46:02]: Appreciate it. Enjoyed working with you. [0:46:03, 0:46:03]: Bye. [0:46:05, 0:46:25]: All right. Um as far as uh the um uh regular agenda, so we're uh chairman's comments, we'll start with that. Um the the main thing I wanted to bring up today was um I had a conversation with our attorney, Dan McRae. We were a few things we were working on, but namely the the resolution for the uh open meeting. So [0:46:25, 0:46:45]: or the the virtual meetings. He informed me that while he is um honored and happy to serve us and especially to stay on with any um transactional deals, uh any uh real estate type of stuff, like he has helped us with the uh Sylvain uh property, um he is [0:46:45, 0:47:05]: um he he gently asked if we would consider um uh another uh resource for general counsel he just he he's at the point in his career where he just doesn't have enough time to keep up with you know kind of the day-to-day stuff he's happy to serve as an advisor type of thing but i wanted to mention that to this group that we [0:47:05, 0:47:25]: And and I've, you know, frankly, I've I've I've wanted to I I've had that idea. I came to that conclusion already just because you know I know he's busy, but he is sometimes slow to uh respond. And for the day-to-day stuff, I think we, you know, we need somebody who can just, you know, respond a little bit more quickly, handle the the operation. [0:47:25, 0:47:45]: Operational stuff as far as general counsel and then move on. I don't know that we need to look at an attorney for under, you know, like a general retainer where you pay a fixed amount per month and you can send any kind of number of questions. I think that our need is very limited to an occasional question. [0:47:45, 0:47:56]: that comes up maybe every meeting or two and we need to send to an attorney, get an opinion, maybe have them attend a meeting once or twice throughout the year. It's very limited. [0:47:56, 0:48:00]: Um but I I just wanted to mention that to the board. [0:48:00, 0:48:16]: um get your reaction and also ask if you know of any um attorneys that work in this space um that uh we think would be a good fit for representing the DDA. I I would welcome that feedback. So let me open it up for comments or [0:48:16, 0:48:17]: Thanks. [0:48:18, 0:48:27]: So I I agree we definitely would need a uh to have a attorney or retainer. Um but I'm thinking um would any attorney be willing to [0:48:28, 0:48:32]: um have a relationship with us if we're just paying them hourly. [0:48:32, 0:48:52]: You know, the hourly rage or okay, you think so? There are some when before we hired Mr. McRae, um, you know, we did do we did um research a few other alternatives. And in fact, we interviewed one or two others besides Mr. McRae before we, you know, uh before we brought him on. And and [0:48:52, 0:49:12]: And there there's different price models. Some of them charged a fixed amount, like you're on retainer, and you know, it's kind of unlimited for certain scope of work. And others, it's just hourly. You know, when you need it, you they charge you by the hour. There's risks with that, of course, because you know, they can charge you five hours for what might be a simple. [0:49:12, 0:49:24]: simple answer to a question and you know that kind of gets back to well you know then we don't use them anymore if we feel like we're getting you know yeah [0:49:24, 0:49:36]: So thank you, thank you for that. And and and there was one that came in, I recall I'd have to look up his name that came in second, you know, if you will, from back then. And you know, if if if if there aren't any other um [0:49:36, 0:49:47]: options and I did ask Mr. McCray if he had any recommendations for other farms in the area that he might recommend that might be in a good position to service. And he said he would get back to me with that. [0:49:48, 0:49:49]: Other thoughts? [0:49:50, 0:50:05]: I would only say very quickly is that I'm very leery of not having an attorney at these meetings because things do go wrong. Had something happen at another uh board meeting earlier that violated the law. [0:50:05, 0:50:07]: And there was an attorney there to correct it. [0:50:08, 0:50:26]: And those kind of things do happen from time to time. We do the best that we can, but it's always half safe to have somebody in the corner that say, oh, you might think that's okay, but it's not okay when somebody examines uh the video of the meeting and they pick out a technicality or something. So [0:50:26, 0:50:30]: Um, you know, as long as in the budget, it it it certainly would be. [0:50:30, 0:50:45]: uh something that I would feel more comfortable with having an attorney at the meeting because like I said, I'm not gonna mention what the board was, but there was another board that one of the board members said something that violated the law and there was nobody there to check it. [0:50:45, 0:50:47]: And that was a problem. Yeah. [0:50:49, 0:50:55]: Thank you. That's good feedback. I appreciate that, Councilman. So Roger, maybe we should consider retaining. [0:50:55, 0:51:15]: You know, indeed. You know, I eat of course, you know, I'm calculating the budget in my head, you know, how much the prices we got when we looked at it before, it would like eat up the whole budget that the city has generators to to to give to the DDA. So we'd have to look at that, but certainly open for discussion. I'm not I'm not I'm not rejecting the idea. It's it's it's it's a it's an it's [0:51:15, 0:51:30]: It's an excellent point when we wanna make sure we're we're doing things the right way. This is a volunteer board, so we're you know, even though we're we're we're trained um and mistakes happen even regard regardless. And so we wanna make sure that we're we're doing things uh correctly. [0:51:31, 0:51:31]: Mm-hmm. [0:51:33, 0:51:49]: Right. Maybe if we if you know uh I'm obviously to save money, but you know, if um you know, if you don't need an attorney, you don't need one, but when you need one, you need one. Maybe we we we think about any any meetings where we're gonna be discussing [0:51:50, 0:51:51]: Spending money. [0:51:52, 0:51:56]: For sure for sure. You know, uh we we need to have an attorney attorney on board. [0:52:01, 0:52:01]: All right. [0:52:02, 0:52:14]: Definitely an idea. Any any other go ahead, Frank? I'm sorry. I was I was just gonna say I was even thinking as well. I think that's that's definitely a a a good idea, but I was thinking also um [0:52:16, 0:52:22]: For the year, um this may this may seem expensive, but I think it may be reasonable. [0:52:23, 0:52:26]: Possibly uh since we have our monthly meetings for two hours. [0:52:26, 0:52:35]: Um, you know, we maybe we need to add an extra hour for that month. So maybe three to four hours per month that we retain that attorney. [0:52:35, 0:52:43]: Um there's anything extra, we'll have to be very cognizant and mindful of that, but at least it's covered every meeting. [0:52:46, 0:52:57]: So you're saying even if it's an hourly um um engagement, we we calculate enough to be able to have an an attorney present for all of our meetings. All of our meetings, yeah. Okay. [0:53:04, 0:53:05]: Okay. [0:53:05, 0:53:09]: That's good feedback. That's all really I wanted at this point. Any other thoughts on that point? [0:53:09, 0:53:10]: Um [0:53:11, 0:53:31]: Uh uh other than to leave you with it, if it you know, I would I would certainly appreciate the help that if anyone knows of attorneys that work in the space or wouldn't mind, you know, doing a little bit of research. I mean, to find out that's how when we when we did it before, we just started making phone calls, calling attorneys' offices and one thing led to another and we found a few that were, you know, [0:53:31, 0:53:51]: work in this space. There is an added advantage that since we are holding our, at least for now, holding our meetings virtually, there's a little bit more willingness to bring in an attorney who, you know, is has to be Georgia based, but might not be in the immediate area. You know, you know, it could be very [0:53:50, 0:53:57]: yet or somewhere else in the metro area, but would be willing to uh serve since they don't have to add the travel time. [0:53:59, 0:54:07]: So please, you know, uh leave that open for everyone to, you know, if you have any recommendations or thoughts, please, please uh bring them my way. [0:54:08, 0:54:17]: All right. Um we don't have a treasurer update. Um Barber is uh wasn't able to make it for this meeting, so we'll move to the next item. Uh secretary updates. Bob, you have anything for the group? [0:54:18, 0:54:19]: Uh no. [0:54:20, 0:54:27]: All right, then that brings us to Kira for the uh Main Street updates. [0:54:27, 0:54:47]: Hello. Hi. Just a few quick updates. The Main Street program is going to be hosting their free movie Friday event. If you all may recall, our one of our events was rained out. So we'll be hosting it a makeup movie day on October the [0:54:47, 0:54:48]: The seventh [0:54:49, 0:54:56]: That is um a Friday. It'll be Friday afternoon. So um please help us um promote that particular event. [0:54:57, 0:54:59]: And we'll also have a [0:54:59, 0:55:07]: kind of skipped over to um that event, but we are also preparing to be present at the Bridge Fest celebration that will be happening. [0:55:08, 0:55:09]: Um this weekend. [0:55:10, 0:55:30]: So please also help us pub publicize and promote that particular event as well. The main thing that we are planning for is our small business Saturday event that comes up every year. And we have actually been recognized. [0:55:30, 0:55:50]: nationally for some of our programs that we have in place. So we want to make sure that we continue in that vein of success and make sure that this year's event is just as exciting as it has been over the past years. We will be doing a month-long November business blitz. [0:55:49, 0:55:51]: Which will um [0:55:52, 0:56:12]: Highlight stockbridge businesses for the entire month of November. We will have a shopping passport. And you all may be familiar with our hard copy passport. This year we are going to actually have a digital passport. And this is based on feedback that we receive from some of our shoppers and diners. [0:56:11, 0:56:28]: um just trying to take the program to that next level by having a way for people to upload their um receipts when they shop at our local businesses um so that they are entered into the chance to win um a prize drawing at the end of the [0:56:29, 0:56:49]: um November Blitz celebration. So we'll have the entire month of November, the Blitz where we will have different promotions going on at the participating businesses. And then everything will culminate in Small Business Saturday, which is the Saturday every year after Thanksgiving. So if you know a small businesses, [0:56:49, 0:57:09]: That are interested in participating, please let us know. I know Roger Braun Beautiful is a participant, and we appreciate you all being a part of our celebration and supporting us since the beginning, since we first started this effort here in Stockbridge. And it has grown from just [0:57:09, 0:57:29]: Just four businesses, which Barn Beautiful was one, to over 40 businesses participating last year. Even through the pandemic, we were able to keep the momentum going with this particular promotion. So just if you know business owners who would be great for this type of promotion, let us know so that we can make sure that we get. [0:57:28, 0:57:32]: get them registered and participating on our digital passport. [0:57:34, 0:57:35]: And um that's about all. [0:57:37, 0:57:52]: Thank you, Kira. I appreciate all the work that's been done over the years. And I can say from our experience, uh uh, especially in um at least before the pandemic, that was uh the small business Saturday was it was very often our the busiest day of our year. [0:57:52, 0:57:59]: So it really worked out well for us. So we appreciate everything that was done by the by you and your team and the community. [0:58:00, 0:58:02]: Any any questions or comments for Kira? [0:58:04, 0:58:24]: Oh Roger, I had one more thing. I'm sorry. I slipped right over it on my little cheat sheet here. Um we did, um, if you all recall, the downtown beautification and activation committee um put together a um proposal for um plantings in the downtown district that planting [0:58:24, 0:58:29]: Process has begun. Um, I think they finished up the plantings um this past [0:58:29, 0:58:30]: Friday. [0:58:31, 0:58:32]: And um [0:58:32, 0:58:52]: We are going to be working vigorously with public works to keep those plantings alive and keep them watered because we're looking forward to a very vibrant and beautified downtown with regard to our planting, our beds, florals, new shrubs. [0:58:52, 0:58:57]: shrubs and some blooming plants have been added to the downtown flower beds. [0:58:58, 0:59:01]: Nice. Thank you for that. I wasn't aware of that. [0:59:01, 0:59:02]: Mm-hmm. [0:59:04, 0:59:06]: And that definitely is all. [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Go ahead, counselor. [0:59:08, 0:59:10]: Yes, uh in terms of uh [0:59:11, 0:59:16]: Things going forward, so the main street will have what a tent or a [0:59:17, 0:59:20]: Uh distribution location at Main Street, how's that gonna work out? [0:59:21, 0:59:24]: What's the what what's the setup look like? With regard to what? [0:59:24, 0:59:26]: Uh at uh at the bridge fest. Yeah. [0:59:27, 0:59:47]: Oh, at Bridgefest, we will just we will have a um tent with information. We're going to be really pushing the um small business Saturday effort and the November business blitz. We'll also have um the app available for people to download it right there on the spot. So we'll be making sure that we get as many people. [0:59:47, 0:59:53]: people as possible to sign up for our November business blitz to participate as shoppers and diners. [0:59:54, 1:00:02]: Okay, okay. Uh so will that be inclusive of the concerts too, or are you just are you outside during the festival? Where is that? [1:00:02, 1:00:04]: We'll be in the the festival part. [1:00:05, 1:00:08]: Okay, you'll be in the festival part. Uh okay. [1:00:08, 1:00:09]: All right. Um [1:00:09, 1:00:15]: In terms of uh long term planning uh of coming up, what other events uh [1:00:15, 1:00:17]: You got that coming up. Doesn't we have a um [1:00:17, 1:00:21]: Halloween event this year, I think, uh from the council. So [1:00:21, 1:00:24]: What's Main Street's involvement in the Halloween event? [1:00:24, 1:00:27]: Well, that's something that we have been um [1:00:28, 1:00:31]: kind of discussing with events, there is a um [1:00:32, 1:00:32]: Hey. [1:00:33, 1:00:37]: Um fall festival that is being hosted by um [1:00:38, 1:00:39]: Councilwoman Lakeisha Gantt. [1:00:40, 1:01:00]: And that is scheduled for two days prior to um Halloween. So Main Street has um asked that we devote the attention to that fall festival as opposed to hosting a separate Halloween festival because it would be really a duplication of the type of [1:01:00, 1:01:05]: of um activities and events that are hosted during um [1:01:05, 1:01:09]: Councilwoman Gantt's Fall Festival only two days later. So [1:01:09, 1:01:11]: Um to [1:01:11, 1:01:24]: um consider the economy of fun economy of funds and to really look um strategically at how we handle events. We will not be hosting a Halloween event in the downtown. [1:01:24, 1:01:35]: Okay, but the council authorized the Halloween event for the city. On the council initiatives are separate events that the council people do, but the city authorized a [1:01:35, 1:01:38]: city event in the downtown directly. [1:01:39, 1:01:46]: for this. So Main Street doesn't have any involvement in an event that was approved for the city in the downtown area. [1:01:47, 1:02:01]: Well, we also took a look at the fact that the um downtown area is in transition right now. Um the alleyway, we had hoped to be further along on the alleyway project at this time. Um the [1:02:01, 1:02:10]: This downtown area is not as buttoned up as as we would like to have had it for uh to invite people downtown for a Halloween event. [1:02:11, 1:02:19]: Um the welcome center is in the um final stages of being completed, but we don't think that it will be quite finished. [1:02:20, 1:02:31]: exactly at that time where um people would be hosted in the downtown. So we'd rather have a um downtown open house type event once the um [1:02:32, 1:02:37]: The welcome center has been completed where we could be a little bit more buttoned up. [1:02:37, 1:02:38]: And um [1:02:38, 1:02:42]: better able to welcome the community to the downtown area. [1:02:43, 1:02:48]: Okay, well we're gonna have to circle back to that because this is an event that was authorized by the council. [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: That the staff would need to carry out, whether that be your department or or the events department, because this the the council actually voted on and funded the event so that we could do it uh appropriately. There may be some discussion in combining the two events, but the city had authorized that. But I'll have to uh [1:03:08, 1:03:15]: I seek um speak with Mr. Gardner to see what the direction is going to be. So thank you. Okay. Yes, sir. [1:03:17, 1:03:19]: Any other comments or questions for Kira? [1:03:20, 1:03:21]: Mm. [1:03:21, 1:03:41]: All right. Next item on the agenda is the facade grant update. I don't have any updates other than to say that the next step for that, in my perspective, would be to market the program. And a predecessor activity for that would be to get our logo. [1:03:41, 1:03:51]: established so that we can do print materials and so forth with the uh new name and our new logo. And that's a little bit later on in the agenda. So Bob, do you have anything to add regarding the facade grant? [1:03:52, 1:04:11]: All right, I see you shaking your head. So we'll we'll move on. Uh city staff updates uh that would normally be covered by our city staff liaison. Um Mr. Gardner was invited to this meeting, but I don't see that he's here. So we'll move to the next item, which is the city council updates. So councilman, uh you have the floor. [1:04:12, 1:04:18]: Yes, uh you know, previously I had mentioned uh there possibly might be [1:04:18, 1:04:38]: a hotel downtown. I was misinformed and I think we received some bad information that once it was looked into that the staff discovered that location was not downtown. It was somewhere else. So that uh may led to some of the confusion with what we had because initially [1:04:38, 1:04:42]: we were told that the location was downtown. [1:04:42, 1:04:46]: Then after we got in a discussion and all the information came in. [1:04:46, 1:04:50]: It was determined that that location was not in downtown. Sorry for that. [1:04:50, 1:04:51]: Snapful. [1:04:52, 1:04:52]: But uh [1:04:53, 1:05:13]: In terms of economic development, we've had the flowers, the old flower shop at 118 uh MLK Senior Heritage has been sold. Uh Mr. Sylvain, Mr. Sylvan purchased it, and uh he's in the process of securing the tenant. He's actually taken our advertisement for the previous owner. [1:05:12, 1:05:14]: [3914.9, 3934.9]: um actively marketing it only for sale. He's uh actually uh going to market it to see what can be brought in. And uh there it will be some movement on the fire station uh development uh as well so those updates will be uh coming to the council where there'll be a very [1:05:34, 1:05:37]: Very exciting project going on. [1:05:37, 1:05:57]: uh at the fire station, uh which uh will involve bringing in some of the things that we talked about, uh like the restaurants and uh the different entities that we're looking for. So that space now, we know we have at least two spaces that will be available. 118 will be available and then uh the fire [1:05:57, 1:05:58]: station would be available. [1:05:58, 1:06:18]: And we expect to uh I would expect uh to be able to select a end user for 114 to be uh sold uh from the city to a uh business owner as well for an additional business. So we look forward to those three locations being uh occupied. [1:06:18, 1:06:30]: uh within the next um twelve to eighteen months uh with new businesses. So there is uh some growth uh in the downtown area and we look forward to [1:06:30, 1:06:32]: Those things happening. [1:06:32, 1:06:35]: And coming into full bloom for us. [1:06:35, 1:06:40]: Uh in terms of other economic development, you know, the Jodico project is moving forward. [1:06:40, 1:06:42]: Uh, it's info bloom. [1:06:42, 1:06:47]: Uh the uh first multi units are coming up, the resort style. [1:06:47, 1:06:49]: They made remarkable improvements and [1:06:50, 1:06:53]: uh conditions they are building brownstone town homes right next to it. [1:06:54, 1:06:58]: Those town homes are are b are progressing fast. I stopped by and talked to [1:06:58, 1:07:00]: The construction manager who said [1:07:00, 1:07:02]: The town homes would probably be ready. [1:07:02, 1:07:04]: uh for sale before [1:07:05, 1:07:06]: The uh mar the uh [1:07:07, 1:07:08]: Oh [1:07:08, 1:07:12]: The uh apartments will be ready in the first leg of the apartment. [1:07:12, 1:07:14]: should be opening up in February. [1:07:15, 1:07:17]: Of next year, so some of the town homes will be ready. [1:07:18, 1:07:22]: uh by that time as well. So that's moving a f moving forward. [1:07:22, 1:07:25]: Uh we understand that the Costco is gonna be [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: Uh on the front parcel in front of Jodico. [1:07:28, 1:07:30]: And they're preparing the pad for it. [1:07:30, 1:07:33]: Now, so that location is moving forward. [1:07:33, 1:07:35]: And you're probably hopefully you're aware that we [1:07:36, 1:07:43]: Have approved about$200 million in economic development for Highway 138, which is west. [1:07:43, 1:07:47]: Oh IS seventy five. Both of the locations are [1:07:47, 1:07:50]: At uh highway one thirty eight and spivey road. [1:07:50, 1:07:53]: Uh one is called Remy Rose. It is mixed use. [1:07:54, 1:07:56]: uh with uh apartments [1:07:56, 1:07:57]: Um [1:07:57, 1:08:15]: Think 297 apartments on one side on that side with 128 town homes. And then on the other side, there's a business, there's one with uh mixed use on the other side of Spider Road on the south side of Highway 138 that will that's called Tranquil Twerk Trails. [1:08:16, 1:08:17]: It will have um [1:08:18, 1:08:19]: Uh [1:08:19, 1:08:20]: Uh two hundred. [1:08:20, 1:08:22]: Three hundred and eighteen apartments. [1:08:22, 1:08:23]: And [1:08:23, 1:08:27]: Fifty townhomes. Uh, these town homes are of [1:08:27, 1:08:43]: All of them will be very nice quality townhomes. They will be residential. It was an exciting announcement that uh the nourish and bloom owners were actually at the zoning hearing. And if you don't know about nourish and bloom, you should Google it. They're the first autonomous grocers. [1:08:44, 1:08:45]: Um in um [1:08:46, 1:08:49]: in America and they opened up their first location at Trilli. [1:08:50, 1:09:09]: in uh Fayetteville, of course, for the move uh by the movie studio, where it's a 24-hour grocery store where basically you go in and you have an app. You don't it's k you don't ring up anything. It automatically rings up your merchandise as you exit the store and print your receipt and everything for you. It includes a bistro [1:09:09, 1:09:11]: Oh organic um [1:09:11, 1:09:13]: Organic uh [1:09:13, 1:09:15]: Vegetables and [1:09:15, 1:09:35]: that type of thing uh as well, so to be, and then the store that they built over in Fayetteville, they said it was two about fourteen hundred square feet. The store that they're building here will be fourteen hundred square feet. And they've been working hand in hand with the developer since the the uh uh since the development of the Tranquil Trails and they're actually going [1:09:35, 1:09:41]: gonna have paths throughout this development where they can have their robots. [1:09:41, 1:09:43]: actually deliver [1:09:44, 1:09:58]: to the various units along those paths to their multifamily and to the townhomes for the residents who live on site. They will be able to place their order and then the robot will be able to deliver it to them to their front door. [1:09:58, 1:10:01]: This is extremely exciting'cause the technology is really [1:10:02, 1:10:04]: uh cutting edge and to have those two business owners [1:10:05, 1:10:08]: Featured on good morning, America, numerous. [1:10:08, 1:10:10]: uh print articles [1:10:10, 1:10:13]: And they live right here in Henry County. And what they said was [1:10:13, 1:10:16]: We want to invest right here in our community. [1:10:17, 1:10:19]: And that's that's what they plan on doing. [1:10:19, 1:10:21]: And they said they plan on having a store. [1:10:22, 1:10:27]: uh construction starting in late November and to be open by late summer or [1:10:27, 1:10:28]: uh early fall. [1:10:29, 1:10:31]: uh of next year so they have a very aggressive [1:10:31, 1:10:34]: Time table. If you haven't seen [1:10:34, 1:10:38]: The renderings of the pictures is uh absolutely amazing. It is a beautiful [1:10:38, 1:10:40]: North Side type facility. [1:10:40, 1:10:42]: Uh that you could put in bookhead. [1:10:43, 1:10:43]: Um [1:10:44, 1:10:45]: Perimeter. [1:10:45, 1:11:05]: Uh you can put it anywhere in the city and it will be acceptable. So that's kind of where we are now. So things are moving forward and each and every one of you should have received an invitation from the city for Bridge Fest. Hopefully uh you can make it and attend and then uh meet some uh business people that uh will be invited. [1:11:05, 1:11:09]: along the way to kinda talk about opportunities that we have here. [1:11:09, 1:11:11]: As well as fellowship and enjoy. [1:11:12, 1:11:17]: uh the concert at the same time. I would like uh Miss Holliday has done some work. [1:11:17, 1:11:23]: uh on potential food for us. And I think um she's come up with a vendor [1:11:23, 1:11:28]: uh potentially that could help us uh with food. Is that correct, Miss Halliday? [1:11:28, 1:11:31]: I'm so would you repeat that for me, sir? [1:11:31, 1:11:40]: Uh about the food and being able to I had a caterer who reached out who was he evidently had watched the meeting prior. [1:11:40, 1:11:48]: When you were speaking about having a cater, caterer um come in for the tables for the DDA and any economic development. [1:11:49, 1:11:57]: um people that may be present. So he he has expressed interest in providing that if the um DDA was [1:11:58, 1:11:58]: Interesting. [1:12:01, 1:12:03]: He should bring you all a sample. [1:12:03, 1:12:04]: That's what I suggest. [1:12:04, 1:12:15]: Okay, well I certainly am interested and then I don't know how quick today could turn it around, but you know, Bridge Fest is Saturday and then uh it I think majorly for the [1:12:16, 1:12:20]: The real lineup is the concerts at night from seven till eleven. [1:12:20, 1:12:40]: Right. Um where uh the big time performers start uh then on through Climax and the City Band and Soul Cartel and then commonizer with George Clinton and Parliament Parliament. So uh I have invited several guests to that uh on my behalf of the council and for us as well. [1:12:40, 1:13:00]: well and you all should do the same to any business people that you think would be interested in it. This is a free concert. So we can, you know, normally for the paid concerts, we don't have tickets or you know spots to give away, but we have the VIP area that we uh certainly can be take advantage of to invite guests in to talk about [1:13:00, 1:13:02]: those opportunities here in the city. [1:13:02, 1:13:03]: So I suggest we do have [1:13:04, 1:13:06]: some food available for breakfast. [1:13:06, 1:13:09]: Uh if that is possible uh with this vendor. [1:13:10, 1:13:11]: Right. [1:13:11, 1:13:17]: I will reach back out and reach out to the chair and the treasurer to send the information. [1:13:18, 1:13:30]: Yeah, and if there's because we established we have a budget. So if you just need approval for, you know, a proposal as far as you know the menu items and pricing or something like that, I'm I'm happy to review and and push that along. [1:13:31, 1:13:36]: Okay, and that that that may mean there will be a ratification since the event is this weekend. [1:13:37, 1:13:37]: Well [1:13:38, 1:13:43]: A ratification meaning to ratify the spend? Right. [1:13:43, 1:13:48]: Um because I think we established that we had it in in this year. You have the budget. Yes. [1:13:48, 1:13:58]: Yeah, so I would I I it I I would think that that would be within my authority to say, yes, this falls within budget. It's okay to place the order, right? Yes. [1:13:58, 1:14:07]: Okay. I just wanted to send them information to you and and and the treasurer. That's right. Yeah, she may be out of pockets, so in her absence, I'll I'll make sure it can see. [1:14:08, 1:14:20]: Well hopefully she can make it Saturday. Oh no, it's spring break. Oh well it's fall break. So some people might be out of town, right? Yeah. Yeah, she had mentioned something that she couldn't make this meeting because she'd be out of town, but I don't know the I don't know the range of dates. Okay. [1:14:21, 1:14:22]: All right. Anything else, councilman? [1:14:23, 1:14:25]: Uh no, thank you. [1:14:25, 1:14:29]: All right, uh any questions for Councilman Alexander, questions or comments? [1:14:32, 1:14:52]: Um I just have a few follow-up items. I'll I'll just do are there I'll list them. Do you have any updates on the alleyway project 114 uh MLK purchase, uh the Welcome Center completion, the East Atlanta, the East Atlanta Roadway Expansion, um, and or the Arts and Cultural Center. Is any are there any updates on? [1:14:52, 1:15:12]: On any of those uh well, in terms of the uh welcome center, I think Miss Bragg gave us an update. I was thought we were supposed to be finished. Uh she's saying that uh maybe she can give us a further update that uh it the timetable that it was supposed to be finished by uh that point, so maybe we can get [1:15:12, 1:15:15]: [4516.3, 4536.3]: I I was just gonna say with regard to the um Ted Strickland Um Welcome Center renovations, there have been some um supply chain challenges with regard to um materials. Um however, um the crew has come back. They started working again last week and have done [1:15:36, 1:15:56]: some installations. Millwork was another big thing that we were waiting to receive. Millwork being the desks and built-ins that were programmed for that particular location. I am supposed to be going to a site visit of the facility this week. [1:15:56, 1:16:16]: and um see what has been done. But um the crew was down for about two weeks um where they were not able to really do any work on the site because they were still um trying to get materials. But they're back to work now and um hopefully um I'll be able to see some marked progress. [1:16:16, 1:16:19]: address when I go for the site visit this week. [1:16:20, 1:16:21]: Thank you for that. [1:16:21, 1:16:25]: Okay, on East Atlanta Road, we finally um [1:16:25, 1:16:28]: Have got things rolling uh on this uh [1:16:28, 1:16:31]: We were waiting on Georgia Power War to come in and [1:16:31, 1:16:34]: Work on some easement easements, I'm told by [1:16:34, 1:16:54]: uh public works that if all goes well, we should be able to restart the work within three to four weeks uh along East Atlanta and Lee Street to move that forward. We just really had a false start. We should never started the project without having the easements in place and we did start it without it. [1:16:54, 1:16:57]: But uh Georgia Power was really the hold up I'm told. [1:16:57, 1:16:59]: And they have uh [1:16:59, 1:17:19]: uh been out uh met with public works last uh two weeks ago and the plan is to have somebody out there to get the work restarted in three to four weeks out there along that uh realm. In terms of 114, I do still expect the decision. The council had uh asked for some [1:17:19, 1:17:21]: Financials. [1:17:21, 1:17:25]: And uh some information on each one of the potential [1:17:25, 1:17:26]: Uh [1:17:26, 1:17:46]: uh property business owners who wanted to purchase. We don't want to just sell to somebody. We want to make sure that that person has the wherewithal to move through with the plans that they presented to us. So once that process is concluded, we'll make a final decision on that. And we have multiple offers to make with which to make that decision on it. [1:17:47, 1:17:47]: Oh [1:17:48, 1:17:50]: In terms of the cultural art center. [1:17:50, 1:17:51]: Uh [1:17:51, 1:17:52]: I think uh [1:17:52, 1:17:55]: I haven't really had anything significant happen on that. [1:17:55, 1:17:57]: I was told that we have uh potentially have [1:17:58, 1:17:58]: Oh. [1:17:58, 1:18:01]: Of some financial options that to be able to execute it. [1:18:01, 1:18:03]: To be able to start sooner rather than later. [1:18:04, 1:18:05]: As early as next year. [1:18:05, 1:18:07]: But I'll need to withhold the [1:18:08, 1:18:09]: Actual information until [1:18:10, 1:18:12]: Uh that process is completed. [1:18:14, 1:18:25]: Appreciate that. Um anything new on the alleyway project? Kira, I think we might be closer to that. I'm not sure who could report on that or if we have any information. Well, yeah, I think Cura might be best uh to answer that one. [1:18:26, 1:18:30]: Okay, um as far as that's concerned, um we are um [1:18:30, 1:18:37]: in the stage where we are having to um get easements on several properties that are um [1:18:38, 1:18:49]: In the on um Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail, where the um rear um property lines um have some um incursion into the um [1:18:50, 1:19:03]: project area. So we are going to have to work with those particular property owners to get access to those little slivers of property that are along the project site. [1:19:04, 1:19:14]: We're um again, we're working with a real estate uh not a real estate attorney, but a um land acquisition attorney to help us kind of navigate that and um [1:19:14, 1:19:25]: We will be working with those individual property owners and once the access to those properties has been secured, we'll be able to move forward with the project. [1:19:26, 1:19:36]: Okay, thank you for that. If if you need any help as far as uh, you know, informing any of the affected property owners and maybe helping to um [1:19:36, 1:19:44]: influence their decision or talk to them if they have any resistance. But you know, I'm personally happy to help and I'm sure the other board members would be happy to help you out with that. [1:19:45, 1:19:46]: Okay, thank you very much. [1:19:48, 1:19:55]: Okay, thank you for that. Um, any other updates for or any other items for city council or city staff? [1:19:58, 1:20:00]: I I guess I'll just go. [1:20:01, 1:20:14]: I'm sorry, I've I've got one thing. Yeah. I um I I went I signed our resolution regarding the virtual meetings and uh as secretary and I I'm I'm assuming I need to deliver that signed uh resolution. [1:20:14, 1:20:19]: to um Miss Holiday, I can I can drop it off at her office maybe tomorrow afternoon or [1:20:20, 1:20:21]: Um R has Roger signed it? [1:20:23, 1:20:26]: Uh there was no place for Roger to sign it. [1:20:27, 1:20:41]: Look at that. I I think an electronic signature should be okay. I have the capability of signing it and then scanning it and sending it back and doing it through that. And I I'm happy to drop it off my, you know, the the ink, you know, the [1:20:41, 1:20:46]: the the the original version just to keep it in the paper files. [1:20:46, 1:20:48]: Okay. My topic has um [1:20:48, 1:20:51]: Okay, like I said, I'm in the Secretary. [1:20:51, 1:20:53]: Oh, the calls for the secretary to sign? [1:20:53, 1:21:02]: My copy has chairman and secretary. Both. Okay. Then yeah, Bob, then let's do that. If you could drop off your copy to um [1:21:03, 1:21:04]: Glass up. [1:21:05, 1:21:08]: Bob, are you looking at the um certificate? [1:21:09, 1:21:14]: I think you're going to be able to do it. [1:21:16, 1:21:17]: Yeah. [1:21:18, 1:21:35]: Let's bring that up again. See, there's my copy and it has chairman and secretary on it. That's the signature. Yeah, that does. It does. Okay. Yeah, it does. It does. It does. Okay. Then thank you for no, no, no. Thank you, Bob, for checking that because we both need to sign it. So um [1:21:36, 1:21:56]: If you don't mind, um it it might be a little bit easier if you drop it off at Barn Beautiful and then I'll pick it up from there and I'll sign it and then I'll drop it off to City Hall with both our signatures. Why don't I why don't I do that? Why don't I do that? Okay. That'll be a little bit easier and then I'll make sure that the uh electronic copy goes to our attorney and back to you for your [1:21:55, 1:22:01]: electronic records and then I'll keep the paper copy with um I'll deliver the paper copy to uh city hall. [1:22:02, 1:22:03]: Okay. [1:22:04, 1:22:07]: I'll drop it off tomorrow. No, it was a good point. I'm glad you brought that up. [1:22:10, 1:22:30]: All right, um we'll move on to our next items. Um the next few are just uh updates. So um we I I wanted to just give you a preview because you all were good enough to approve the uh a proposal. And I know I know there were some questions about you know the DDA's role in approving a public art proposal for the city council regarding [1:22:30, 1:22:36]: a Martin Luther King senior public art project to memorialize um [1:22:36, 1:22:56]: uh you know dr king's father so um i wanted to share with you just briefly to give you a preview this is a draft a work in progress and um in fact we're meeting with the um consultant next week to do some um updates to this but let me let me bring up the item and just scan through [1:22:56, 1:23:04]: Through what's been developed so far. So you have a maybe a better idea of what of what this was about and um. [1:23:05, 1:23:09]: you know what r value we're getting for the um for the effort. [1:23:09, 1:23:13]: Um get set up here. One moment. Let me share the [1:23:14, 1:23:16]: Share screen. [1:23:16, 1:23:36]: Sure and share. All right, so this is the um this is the first draft of the item. Um what it basically does is it makes a business case as to why a public art project of this scale is an economic development opportunity for the city of Stockbridge. [1:23:36, 1:23:47]: And I'm just going to scan through this really quickly. Some statistics on tourism and economic impact. And then it goes into the process. I mean, this doesn't just happen. [1:23:48, 1:24:07]: you know, without a lot of planning, especially of something of this scale. It talks about forming a steering committee, what role that has as far as um uh the the role in the community and what type of uh membership should be included in the steering committee. I'm gonna make this a little bit bigger so you can see some of the text. [1:24:08, 1:24:14]: Um it then goes into um the process for establishing a location. [1:24:14, 1:24:34]: Um, it will then cover this. Is only a few pages, so um uh then it goes into uh a little bit of how we need to plan for marketing and media relations related to a project of this scale. And uh then as far as how to uh engage the [1:24:34, 1:24:35]: the community. [1:24:36, 1:24:56]: And uh the uh then it goes into timeline. So there's uh both the narrative here about the timeline and what are the elements required for the timeline. And then a little bit further on, there's actually uh a page that gives that in a in in a uh in a more of a timeline format. And then budget considerations. And I'll pause on this one a little bit. [1:24:56, 1:24:59]: that to just go into a little bit more detail as to um [1:25:00, 1:25:20]: You know, obviously there's a there's cost to doing something like this, but there are funding opportunities. There are opportunities from uh grants from you know various uh partners. There's ways in which you can um legislatively establish uh incentives, like for example, some if a large developer [1:25:20, 1:25:40]: were to come into um the area you can um have legislation that a portion of their development would go towards public art in the community um you can there's uh you know uh there's already uh henry county visitors bureau so we collect and um uh you know we we [1:25:39, 1:25:56]: We uh we get funding from uh Henry or we provide funding to the Henry County Visitors Bureau by a hotel motel tax, and that funding can be used for this type of a tourism development initiative. So that's another funding opportunity and others. [1:25:57, 1:26:17]: And finally, uh there's uh project timeline and then some cost. Um, and I'm gonna skip over that because that we need a little bit more context around the cost. But I wanted to just give you a general preview of what this is about. There's gonna be a lot more work done to this before we're ready to present this to the council. So, Councilman Alexander. [1:26:17, 1:26:28]: you're getting a sneak preview of what this document is about. So let me just ask if there's any uh questions uh or any comments on that so far. [1:26:30, 1:26:44]: No, I just I just think we're we're definitely in the right direction. Um listen, just after hearing that report earlier from Georgia Tech and just my little bright ideas and what I'm excited of of us to talk about an arts and cultural center is was definitely one of them. [1:26:45, 1:26:49]: Um spar to putting out there. So yeah, I think we're on the right track. [1:26:49, 1:27:01]: Thanks for hand. Um Roger, I was just gonna say that it's been um really great meeting with the consultant. Um, she has some really good ideas and [1:27:01, 1:27:14]: has been through this type of has done this type of work before and is very well informed in the various aspects of the process. So I think that we are definitely going to um [1:27:15, 1:27:19]: have a a great plan to pr present to the mayor and council. [1:27:20, 1:27:21]: Yeah. [1:27:23, 1:27:33]: Other thoughts? And if not, I'll move on to the next item. And that is to uh get the next item up just a moment. [1:27:35, 1:27:45]: um the new DDA logo. So let me get that going and then I'll show that as well. So this is another sneak preview that you're getting for the DDA logo. [1:27:45, 1:27:50]: Um this I'm particular well, I'm excited about both of these, by the way, but um [1:27:51, 1:27:55]: Let me get back to the Zoom window over here. [1:27:56, 1:27:58]: Your screen. All right. [1:28:00, 1:28:20]: You should be able to see that now. So we've gone through several iterations to get to this. Um, some of the earlier versions, the what we were presented with was um um a logo that looked too much like the city of Stockbridge logo. It could easily be misunderstood as being. [1:28:20, 1:28:40]: One and the same. The DDA is a separate entity and we wanted to make sure that there was an alignment with the city's brand, but a separation as well. So this is a draft version of what we've come at so far. This is a few iterations of the same logo so that we could use these for various. [1:28:40, 1:28:58]: It's uh you know, it's to different use cases, whether it's uh you know letterhead or a business card or or that type of thing. And I'm gonna zoom in on this uh piece right here, which is this uh the seal. By the way, this whole thing created a very significant design challenge because. [1:28:59, 1:29:19]: With the trade name of developing downtown Stockbridge and the full legal name of the downtown development authority of the city of Stockbridge, that's 11 words in one logo. So um I really uh applaud the design firm for being able to put this together in a way that's um digestible without [1:29:18, 1:29:38]: So they also came up with this new idea of using a seal, which has the full legal name of the authority sort of swirled around it. So we've got a few more adjustments to make to all of these, but I wanted to share with you the work in progress of what's been done so far. Any immediate reaction? [1:29:42, 1:29:43]: I I like the one on the top. [1:29:44, 1:29:52]: I like the one on the second row in the middle. I I definitely do not like the one where the the S is the big S is on the side. [1:29:53, 1:29:53]: Mm-hmm. [1:29:54, 1:29:56]: You know, to me that looks that looks kind of messy. [1:29:57, 1:30:17]: Uh understood. And that's the one that has, you know, the whole thing. But I I will say this is the whole package. This this is one whole uh package that that that would be, you know, so we might use say this for a t-shirt and use the one over here for maybe a letterhead and maybe the one over here for an official. [1:30:17, 1:30:37]: Declaration or something like that. This, I think the the the seal would be more for a formal uh use because it's the full legal name and only the legal name, not the trade name. Um so each one is gonna have a, you know, maybe potentially different use cases, but it but they're developing um package for this entire [1:30:37, 1:30:37]: Yeah. [1:30:38, 1:30:40]: set that we're seeing here. [1:30:42, 1:30:45]: Okay. So thank you. Thank you for that, Rob. Appreciate the feedback. [1:30:47, 1:30:48]: Any other thoughts? [1:30:51, 1:30:52]: You feel like we're on the right track? [1:30:53, 1:30:56]: All right, good. Appreciate that. Thank you for [1:30:56, 1:30:58]: Take a look at that. [1:30:58, 1:31:01]: Uh a few more items to cover. [1:31:02, 1:31:17]: The master plan restart. So now that we have the market study in place, I'm going to engage our TSW partners to let them know we have a market study so we can formally restart the market master plan for the downtown district. Yay. [1:31:18, 1:31:18]: Um [1:31:19, 1:31:39]: The updates on the downtown strategic work plan. Um, right now my work well Ciara gave an update on the beautification uh committee that she is leading. Um, I think we have a gap uh with the uh committees that um that Alan was leading. Um by the way, I'll ask: are there any um um prospects for uh [1:31:39, 1:31:45]: backfilling the economic development director position with the city. Any any update on that? [1:31:47, 1:32:04]: I have no real update. I think we're searching, but I don't know if there's any a significant candidate. All right, very good. Um, so I think you know, the work that was being done by Alan is kind of on pause on that front. The work I was doing, the leading the tourism committee, I'm focusing more towards the MLK. [1:32:04, 1:32:22]: um um statue and you know public art project so you've gotten the update on that last item on the agenda and councilman this will be for you have you gotten any update on the um um committee to draft the or excuse me the intergovernmental agreement with the city any any updates on their approval of that [1:32:23, 1:32:25]: Miss Holliday, can you talk about that? [1:32:28, 1:32:40]: Uh it remains the same. It has been submitted to the attorney. Uh it has not been sent back to the council yet to go on the agenda. It won't be on the well, it may go on the 27th agenda. Um [1:32:41, 1:32:44]: But we haven't received it back yet from the attorneys. I'm sorry. [1:32:44, 1:32:55]: Okay. Thank you for the update. Is there is there any way we can get that moving? I just I'd I'd like to close that item or or if there is feedback, you know, work through it so that we can, you know, move on. [1:32:56, 1:33:16]: I think we will be moving on. I think the attorneys had had a bunch of issues that were kind of backlogged, and I think this was one of them. But I believe they have committed to moving these backlog issues forward because clerk insisted. So I think we're moving in the right direction. All right. Well, I appreciate that. And thank you [1:33:15, 1:33:21]: for thank you and and city clerk and city staff for all the work you're doing to support the DDA. [1:33:22, 1:33:31]: Um with that I don't have any other we've gone through the uh remaining parts of the agenda. I'll just open it up for any general remarks or comments before we move to adjourn. [1:33:36, 1:33:48]: All right, hearing none, um do we have a motion to adjourn? I move to adjourn. Thank you, councilman. Any uh any c any conversation or [1:33:48, 1:33:49]: About that. [1:33:50, 1:33:50]: All right. [1:33:50, 1:33:52]: All those in favor, raise your hand. [1:33:53, 1:33:57]: Thank you everyone. I really appreciate your work. Um have a good evening. [1:33:57, 1:34:00]: Good night. Good night. Thank you. Have a good night.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2022-09-12 source: 2022-09-12_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:35:50, 0:35:51]: Test test. [0:36:08, 0:36:09]: Test, test. [1:00:12, 1:00:15]: I didn't think I was. [1:01:13, 1:01:16]: Uh just feel like [1:03:13, 1:03:16]: You you prefer that, sir? Yeah. [1:03:18, 1:03:24]: No no no. What what we're talking about is this this is what we're not doing to me. [1:03:24, 1:03:30]: No, that's great. [1:05:36, 1:05:37]: That was [1:05:46, 1:05:47]: Yeah. [1:05:47, 1:05:49]: So [1:06:07, 1:06:10]: Madam Clerk, you ready? Okay. [1:06:23, 1:06:32]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh 608 and I want to call this October excuse me, the September 12th council meeting to order. [1:06:33, 1:06:40]: And the invocation tonight will be given a Mr. Charles Morshall, please. Mr. Charles Marshall. And uh please stand if you can. [1:06:51, 1:06:59]: Let's pray. Merciful Father, we come before you once again in a most humble way, thanking you, Father God, for all that you are and all that you do. [1:07:00, 1:07:02]: We pray now, Father God, for your [1:07:02, 1:07:15]: Your overwatch of this meeting tonight. Keep us, Father God, in a civil manner. Father God, keep our hearts and minds open. Keep us in love with one another, for we all should love one another. It's the second greatest commandment. [1:07:16, 1:07:19]: Father God, we pray for this meeting tonight. We pray that it's orderly. [1:07:20, 1:07:22]: And that all of us would benefit from it. [1:07:22, 1:07:36]: It's in these words that we send it to you, you Father God, with the blessings of your of your loving son. It's in the name of that darling son that we pray, and let all saints say, Amen. [1:07:37, 1:07:50]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the program for which stands, one nation, under God, individuals, with liberty and justice for all. [1:07:51, 1:07:55]: Madam Clerk, roll call please. Please be seated. [1:08:00, 1:08:17]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Um and um [1:08:17, 1:08:25]: I need an uh adoption to the actual amendment to the agenda for this evening. Mayor Pro Tem, please. Mayor Ford, yes. [1:08:25, 1:08:30]: I move to remove item agenda item thirteen. [1:08:31, 1:08:33]: I also moved to [1:08:34, 1:08:42]: Move agenda item six, seven, and eight until the October tenth. [1:08:42, 1:08:43]: Council meeting. [1:08:44, 1:08:45]: Is there a second to a motion? [1:08:46, 1:08:49]: I second. Thank you very much. All in favor, please indicate. [1:08:51, 1:08:54]: Thank you very much. Now I need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. [1:08:55, 1:08:59]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. So move. All right, sir, second. I second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [1:09:00, 1:09:01]: Thank you very much. [1:09:02, 1:09:13]: Okay, we have also the the adoption of the minutes council meeting draft minutes uh dated July eleventh and also the work session minutes uh july twenty-sixth. So the motion approved those particular minutes. [1:09:14, 1:09:16]: Okay, Mr. Blount, so move there a second. [1:09:17, 1:09:20]: I second. Ms. Gann, second then. All in favor, please indicate. [1:09:21, 1:09:30]: And that's just it. Thank you very much. Um Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? We have one public comment, Mayor, Mr. Robert Payne. Okay. [1:09:35, 1:09:53]: Your name and address, sir. You have a few minutes? Yes, sir. Thank you very much. Mayor, Council, Robert Payne, 303 Corporate Center Drive, Stock Reach, Georgia. Um listen, I've I got a lot that I'd love to talk about tonight, but I'm gonna keep uh the items on the agenda and I'll speak about those when the agenda items come up. [1:09:54, 1:09:56]: The biggest thing I want to reference to you right now [1:09:56, 1:10:08]: is you guys are getting a lot of amendment requests to change your comprehensive plan as well as your land use plan. A lot. You're getting more than the county gets, you're getting more than any city in this county gets. [1:10:08, 1:10:12]: And there's a varying number of reasons and I won't go into them, I'm not gonna say I know them all. [1:10:13, 1:10:16]: But there's with that uh amendment [1:10:16, 1:10:18]: We're getting a lot of these apartments. [1:10:19, 1:10:21]: And we're going from [1:10:21, 1:10:25]: We're not doing just one step jumps. We're not going from a medium density [1:10:25, 1:10:27]: We're not going from a [1:10:27, 1:10:29]: We're not going from an R three to [1:10:29, 1:10:33]: Medium density, we're going from low density to high density. [1:10:34, 1:10:38]: This is a massive jump. This is something that your land use permit does not. [1:10:38, 1:10:40]: Even consider. [1:10:40, 1:10:42]: Not your land use permit, your land use plan, forgive me. [1:10:43, 1:10:44]: It does not even consider [1:10:44, 1:10:46]: But yet developers keep bringing them to you. [1:10:46, 1:10:48]: For varying reasons, and who knows why. [1:10:49, 1:10:59]: But at the end of the day, if all you continue to get in front of you are high density, you know the per capita income that that's gonna come with that. And we all know that [1:10:59, 1:11:04]: With the retail and the restaurants that all of us are wanting, you guys included. [1:11:05, 1:11:08]: It's not about the density level, it's about the per capita income. [1:11:08, 1:11:10]: If you look at places like Peachtree City, [1:11:11, 1:11:12]: You look at places like Alpharetta. [1:11:12, 1:11:25]: Their density is lower than what you have, yet they have all the shopping that everybody here says they want. It has nothing to do with density. It's about per capita income. If you bring the type of uh buyers here, [1:11:26, 1:11:31]: That come along with the higher per capita per capita income, you will get. [1:11:31, 1:11:34]: what you're looking for as far as your residential is concerned. [1:11:35, 1:11:40]: I'm I'm so overwhelmed. It seems like every month you guys are getting requests. [1:11:41, 1:11:43]: To change your land use plan. [1:11:44, 1:11:51]: I don't know, are you guys getting tired of that? I mean it's like it's like the community has to come in here and speak to you guys every month and it's not necessarily your fault. [1:11:51, 1:11:56]: But at some point you guys need to stand by the plan that you have adopted. [1:11:57, 1:12:00]: You guys have this plan, but you kip changing it. [1:12:00, 1:12:07]: What's the point of the land use plan when a homeowner buys it to say, Yep, this looks like a secure area, my investment's gonna be safe? [1:12:08, 1:12:09]: But yet you change it. [1:12:10, 1:12:17]: It wasn't that long ago that you adopted this uh this plan that's on place right now. I don't remember the exact year, but it wasn't [1:12:17, 1:12:19]: That long ago. [1:12:19, 1:12:21]: So I would just ask for you guys when you're um [1:12:22, 1:12:26]: Looking at these uh cases tonight in front of you, just to consider you're not making a minimal jump. [1:12:27, 1:12:29]: You're making a massive jump in the real estate world. [1:12:30, 1:12:34]: From going from low density to high density. I appreciate your time. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. [1:12:38, 1:12:40]: There are no further comments. [1:12:40, 1:12:43]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Stand by one second, please. [1:13:00, 1:13:13]: holding a part of our meeting, several of the proclamations of a reading tonight, as well as square and ceremonies, so that you all will be witness to uh some good things. Always good things for stoppers, right? Never a certain moment. [1:13:16, 1:13:32]: All right. So let's start with the National Hispanic Heritage Month. Um any representatives from the Georgia Hispanic Alliance is here to receive this. Any Hispanic business owners, they're here to receive this. [1:13:34, 1:13:40]: Okay, I would need it anyway. Totally snap. [1:13:40, 1:13:43]: You on this side? Yes. Okay, thank you very much. [1:13:45, 1:14:05]: Proclamation, City Starfree's Georgia, in recognition of National Hispanic Heritage Month. Whereas each year, Americans observe National Hispanic Heritage Month from September 15th to October 15th by celebrating the histories, cultures, and contributions of American citizens whose ancestors came from Spain, Mexico, Caribbean, Central, and South America. [1:14:05, 1:14:25]: Whereas an observation started in uh observ observation, excuse me, started observation observation, started in 1968 as Hispanic Heritage Week under President Lyndon Johnson and was disbanded by President Ronald Reagan in 1998 to cover a 30-day period starting on September 15th and ending October 15th. [1:14:25, 1:14:26]: First. [1:14:26, 1:14:46]: It was enacted into law on August 17, 1988, under approved of public law 100-402. And whereas in the day of September 15th is significant because it is the anniversary of independence of Latin American countries: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Gualamala, Honduras, Nicaragua. In addition, Mexico and Chile serve. [1:14:46, 1:15:04]: Their independence days on September 16th and September 18th, respectively. Also Columbus Day or De La de la Raza, which is October 12th, falls within a 30-day period, and whereas Hispanic Americans embrace the promise of the United States that a better life should await anyone willing to work for it. [1:15:04, 1:15:08]: And the love of liberty and justice that is a country promises to all. [1:15:09, 1:15:29]: Whereas the City of Stockbridge supports the Hispanic community and acknowledges National Hispanic Heritage Month and encourages everyone to participate in Hispanic Fest celebrated on Saturday, October 1st, screaming at the Stockbridge Amphitheater, and witness whereof, therefore, I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgian, on the 12th day of September, our year our Lord, 2015. [1:15:29, 1:15:34]: thousand and twenty two. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, best in me, [1:15:34, 1:15:36]: As a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [1:15:36, 1:15:42]: And on behalf of council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakis again, Fonzo Thomas do hereby proclaim. [1:15:43, 1:15:52]: September fifteenth to October fifteenth, twenty twenty-two is National Hispanic Heritage Month in the great city of Starpers, Georgia. I signed the proclamation along with a clerk for Nessa Holly. [1:15:52, 1:15:53]: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. [1:16:01, 1:16:03]: All kinds of problems today. [1:16:06, 1:16:07]: All right. [1:16:10, 1:16:13]: What could to end all timers today? [1:16:15, 1:16:16]: Not clear something. [1:16:23, 1:16:29]: Come on over here, we'll read this and then we'll also give you an opportunity to to address the audience. Okay? You're welcome. [1:16:30, 1:16:33]: Proclamation, City of Stockbridge, Georgia in recognition and walk with all timers day. [1:16:34, 1:16:47]: Whereas Alzheimer's disease is a progressive neurodegenerate brain disorder, which robs individuals of their memories, leads to a progressive mental and physical impairments, and there are known treatments to prevent or cure it. [1:16:48, 1:17:08]: Let alone slow the excuse me the progression of the disease. And whereas Alzheimer's disease is the sixth leading cause of death in the United States, an estimated 6.5 million people of all ages have Alzheimer's disease, including over 130,000 Georgians. Whereas family and friend caregivers bear an extraordinary burden in the caring [1:17:08, 1:17:13]: Of loved ones and George over eleven million family members and friends provide unpaid. [1:17:14, 1:17:25]: uh care. Whereas the City of Stockbridge recognizes the efforts of Alzheimer's Association to raise funds, promote awareness and fight Alzheimer's disease and other uh dementia [1:17:25, 1:17:36]: therefore improvide improving improving the quality of life of for those living with Alzheimer's disease and their caregivers. And whereas the month of September has uh been declared [1:17:37, 1:17:48]: as World Alzheimer's Monk to spread the global awareness of Alzheimer's Association Vision and a world without Alzheimer's disease. A witness thereof I have here hunt to set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [1:17:48, 1:18:06]: On the twelfth day of September, our year on Lord uh 2022. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, my virtual authority vessel in me as the mayor of City Stockbridge, Georgia, on behalf of City Council members out and Alexander, Ilana Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt and Alfonso Thomas, who hereby encourage everyone to participate in a walk to end all timers. [1:18:07, 1:18:09]: Saturday, October eighth, twenty twenty two. [1:18:09, 1:18:11]: Here in Henry County and Alexander Park. [1:18:12, 1:18:13]: Eight A.M. restoration online. [1:18:13, 1:18:16]: A LZ до РД на сайн слава. [1:18:17, 1:18:19]: with uh clerk Vanessa Halliday. [1:18:19, 1:18:23]: I'd like to give this to you by the way and you'll address the audience and introduce yourself and address the audience. [1:18:24, 1:18:25]: Okay. [1:18:26, 1:18:28]: Was it was this on the way? Is it good? [1:18:29, 1:18:32]: You wanna do it on the side? Okay, let's do that. All right. [1:18:33, 1:18:34]: Mm. Okay. [1:18:39, 1:18:42]: [4725.3, 4745.3]: Thank you, Mayor Ford and um council members of the City of Stockbridge. My name is Sylvia Dennis Ray, and I am the leader of the Henry County Walk to End Alzheimer's. And I'm also the executive director of the Alzheimer's Services Center in Monroe. [1:19:05, 1:19:21]: Um September is recognized as World Alzheimer's Awareness Month and this year's theme is No Alzheimer's and No Dementia. Um a lot of times people think that [1:19:21, 1:19:38]: Alzheimer's and dementia are different, but they are the same. Alzheimer's is just the most known and the most common form of dementia. There are about seven other types of dementia. [1:19:38, 1:19:58]: And we just want to get the word out about all about Alzheimer's and all the other dementias and how they affect the caregivers and the person who's living with the dementias. So September 21st is World Alzheimer's Day. [1:19:58, 1:20:13]: So if everyone can do me a favor and wear purple in recognition for World Alzheimer's Awareness Day, I really appreciate it. And also join us on our walk on Saturday, October the 8th at Alexander Park. Thank you. [1:20:16, 1:20:16]: [4820.4, 4826.6]: This uh next proclamation uh deals with national assistance living week. Assisted living week. [1:20:28, 1:20:31]: Anyone here to Okay. Well let me read this into the record. [1:20:32, 1:20:52]: Proclamation City Stockbridge Georgian recognition National Assisted Living Week. Whereas residents of assisted living communities are active members of a larger community, offering their knowledge, life experiences, and involvement. Their past contributions continue to be a vital part of the Stockbridge community of rich history and their ongoing participation deepens the Stockbridge identity. [1:20:52, 1:21:12]: And whereas assistant living is a critical long-term care option for older adults and individuals with disabilities that fosters choice, dignity, independence, assistant living communities are committed to excellence, in location, and advancement of personal-centered care. And whereas in 1995, the National Center of Assistant Living established National Living Week. [1:21:12, 1:21:32]: To honor the contributions of assisted living communities and providing long-term care to America's seniors and individuals with disabilities. Whereas this year's theme of National Assisted Living Week is the Joyful Memories, highlighting the incredible care provided by essential care workers and the special memories created in the assisted living facility. [1:21:32, 1:21:52]: Facilities across the country, whereas during a special week, assisted living communities across the country are encouraged to organize activities and events which celebrate the dedication of staff, the individuality of residents, and the deep connections formed in these settings while adhering to COVID-19 safety requirements and precautions. [1:21:52, 1:22:10]: In witness thereof I have here unto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the twelfth day of September, the year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-two. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority best in me, as a mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Lana, Barber John, Blount, Nakisha Gannon. [1:22:10, 1:22:13]: And Alfonso Thomas to hereby proclaim September eleventh. [1:22:13, 1:22:16]: To the seventeenth, twenty twenty two is National Assisted Living Week. [1:22:17, 1:22:21]: My great city of Star British Georgia, and I signed this along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday. [1:22:28, 1:22:48]: One of the big things that uh I get a chance to do, and this is this is I'm honored to swear individuals in to uh appointments uh to different committees which we have in the city of New Honor. We look forward to those committees being fully occupied and for you all as citizens of the city of Stock Rage to adhere and and to to be members of those particular committees. [1:22:48, 1:23:02]: This goal for office tonight will be dealing with our citywide development authority. So I'm Miss Samuels and Khalish had a dog, Kathy Hill, and Mark Gwynn. Please come forward in here. [1:23:08, 1:23:22]: Okay, so one over there. You can uh stand right here and uh I am going to ask you to raise your right hand. I'm going to take this in small snippets and if we repeat after me. [1:23:22, 1:23:23]: Okay. [1:23:24, 1:23:44]: Hi, and please state your name. I can see him. Board member? Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. Duties of the citywide development authority. Duties of the citywide development authority. For the city of Stockbridge. That I will. That I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. [1:23:44, 1:24:04]: Support and defend. Support and defend the chair excuse me, the charter thereof, the charter thereof, as well as the constitution, as well as the constitution and laws of the state of Georgia and laws of the state of Georgia. And the United States of America. And the United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office, I do not hold [1:24:04, 1:24:24]: I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. Any accounted for public money. Do or payable to the state. Do or payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any other thereof. Or any other thereof. Nor do I hold any other office. Any other office. [1:24:24, 1:24:44]: Of trust of the government of the United States, of the United States, of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state as prescribed by the law. As prescribed by the law. I solemnly affirmed that I am fully qualified. That I am fully qualified. Under the Constitution, [1:24:44, 1:25:01]: And the laws of the state to hold the office of the citywide development authority board members. Of the citywide authority board members. And two okay, the of the citywide development authority board members. Of the citywide development authority board members. [1:25:01, 1:25:21]: And that I will perform and that I will perform the duties of my office the duties of my office in the best interest and the best interest of the city of Stock Bridge to the best of my abilities without fear without fear favor or expectation thereof or expectation thereof on the twelfth day of September. [1:25:21, 1:25:41]: 2022. On the top level, 2022. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. Everybody has to I have to sign all these, and you have to sign one with your name on it. We will give that to the clerk. [1:25:41, 1:25:48]: Clerk has some additional things, and matter of fact, has some additional things to give you real quickly here? Okay. [1:25:51, 1:25:57]: All right, uh Miss Sammons and actually actually two of each one each of us get two. [1:25:59, 1:26:02]: Yeah, sorry about that. I spilled water on myself trying to. [1:26:03, 1:26:07]: I'd take a shower here and put it like that. All right. [1:26:32, 1:26:37]: We still have things. [1:26:43, 1:26:54]: Well I didn't want you to sit down. I didn't know if you wanna you wanna say anything at all. I mean I'm sorry to show up on the floor for you. You didn't say anything to the audience or say anything at all. Uh no, is you good? Is we good come out to that? You good as well? Okay. [1:26:56, 1:26:57]: I think that's a cool. [1:27:00, 1:27:02]: [5251.2, 5256.2]: Can we go ahead and congratulate those folks once again for serving time here? Okay. [1:27:39, 1:27:52]: Thank you very much. All right. So what we did earlier is that we amended an agenda so items six, seven, and eight will actually be uh [1:27:53, 1:28:04]: on our October tenth um meeting. So we have now we move to item number nine, which is a rezoning case. Let's read this. [1:28:06, 1:28:26]: Rezoning case RZ two zero two two zero three. Consideration request for a change in zoning of RR Rural Residential District to OI Office Institutional District for 0.964 acres at 3884 Wall Stevens Road and land lot twenty-five of section. [1:28:26, 1:28:46]: 12 comprising a parcel number 031-020-1200. Application by KCC Commercial Properties LLC. CO Battle Law. PC presented by Mr. Ryan Anderson. And by the way, folks, this is a public, some of the public hearing cash. [1:28:46, 1:28:48]: Mm. Mr. Anderson, please. [1:29:16, 1:29:18]: Good evening. Evening. All right. [1:29:22, 1:29:42]: The requested rezoning to OI will allow the owner to use the subject property for his speech therapy facility. The future land use map for the comprehensive plan designates the subject property for public institutional land uses. The property was annexed into the city in 2016. The current use, the current, there is a building located. [1:29:42, 1:29:45]: on the property that's currently vac vacant. [1:29:48, 1:30:08]: Uh on the screen now is the um zoning map. Um located to the north of the subject property. The zoning is MFR, multiple family residential district. And there's a church south of the property is the Red Oak Elementary School, and the zoning is PUD, Plan Unit Development, east of the property. [1:30:08, 1:30:28]: Is the Red Oak United Methodist Church and the zoning is RR. To the west of the property is the House of Prayer and Fellowship and a Practical Learning Ivy Lee College Preparatory Academy. And the zoning is RR, Rural Residential. The future land use designation of the subject property is [1:30:28, 1:30:30]: Public institutional. [1:30:40, 1:31:00]: Like I previously mentioned, here's a rendering of the existing building on the property. It was constructed in 1970. It was previously a Masonic Lodge. It was converted as a church known as the Anointed Prayers of Faith. And is adjacent to the cemetery located at Red Oak United Methodist Church. Also, here are additional pictures. [1:31:00, 1:31:02]: pictures of the um of the building. [1:31:07, 1:31:15]: The total square foot of the existing building is 2,475 feet, and the total number of proposed parking spaces will be 10 parking spaces. [1:31:19, 1:31:39]: The requested rezoning to OI is consistent with the current comprehensive plan. The possible impact upon the adjacent property owner should the property be rezoned is minimal. The subject property has furniture on Walt Stevens Road, which is a local road. Therefore, vehicle impact should be minimum on adjacent thoroughfares. [1:31:39, 1:31:59]: And pedestrian and vehicular traffic. Rezoning the subject property will not affect the character of Walt Stevens Road. The location of the proposed speech therapy center will benefit Red Oak Elementary School since it will help students who have dis difficulty with speech therapy. The site appears to be suitable for the proposed speech. [1:31:59, 1:32:19]: Rezoning with approved variances. Issues regarding buffering, topography, drainage, access, size, and shape of the property will be addressed. Variance requests will be heard after this case right here. The applicant will be seeking approval for three variants. One, a variance to reduce the minimum light width from 125. [1:32:19, 1:32:39]: feet to ninety six point three seven feet, two, a variance to reduce the eastern section of the property from fifty feet to zero. And three, a pending variance to reduce the western section of the property from fifty feet to zero. Staff recommends approval with conditions. And the conditions are that the three variances be approved later on tonight. [1:32:41, 1:32:45]: That's it? Okay. That's it. Council, any questions for Mr. Anderson, please? [1:32:47, 1:32:50]: Questions over May Force. Um [1:32:51, 1:33:02]: I met earlier and we sort of had this discussion. I saw Mrs. Battle um on my way in. Uh Mrs. Battle. [1:33:03, 1:33:05]: Um as you are approaching [1:33:06, 1:33:09]: We had discuss some type of separation. [1:33:10, 1:33:29]: um from the outer exterior of the boundaries of this new facility and the cemetery and you mentioned that the church recommended some type of uh shrubbery. Uh I I guess the question now is it the understanding [1:33:29, 1:33:33]: of the uh new business coming in that they would maintain. [1:33:34, 1:33:36]: Um that shrubbery. [1:33:36, 1:33:49]: That is correct. That they would that they would maintain that that line of shrubbery that would separate the cemetery from the actual uh business itself. [1:33:49, 1:34:09]: Yes, and let me state my name for the record. Michelle Battle with Battle Law, 3562, Habersham at North Lake, Tupper, Georgia, 30084. We did have uh discussions with um Pastor Pendleton. The cemetery actually does belong to the United Methodist Church, and so they are very um comfortable with [1:34:09, 1:34:29]: With the proposed use of the property, but what they said was that they would prefer not to have a fence. They don't want that area fenced in. What they would prefer is that we agree on some shrubberies, and um the applicant, um the owner of the land, uh, has agreed that they will um continue that dialogue with the church. They want to do some uh [1:34:29, 1:34:44]: uh boundary line um uh work on the survey to make sure that they understand where their boundary line is and then they will work cooperatively um to put shrubberies there that will be maintained by um my client. [1:34:44, 1:34:50]: Mayor Ford. Yes ma'am. Have we moved into the applicants portion because I would need to start the clock. [1:34:52, 1:35:12]: Well, I actually d if they I would uh well that's a group. Yeah, that's a question. I I don't actually have anything really to add to the conversation. Um the presentation that staff made I think was very detailed. Um we are simply here to respond to any questions that you all may have. And that's because yeah, she's up there because Mayor Potem has a question, so that's the reason why. Uh the rest seem like the rest of the council and [1:35:12, 1:35:22]: have any questions at this time. Well just to follow up. Go ahead, Speaker. I I just want to make sure that the applicant do understand uh that they would maintain [1:35:23, 1:35:23]: Um [1:35:24, 1:35:32]: the the shrubbery line as far as constantly trimming, mulching, making sure that it stays attractive. [1:35:32, 1:35:38]: Yes. Okay. Mayor one. Thank you, Mayor. No, no problem. Welcome. Any any other comments, uh questions, or concerns from the council? [1:35:41, 1:35:42]: Uh huh. [1:35:45, 1:35:50]: If this is approved, so contractually that would be put in there as a contingency for [1:35:51, 1:35:55]: Well the if this is approved, my assumption is that the [1:35:55, 1:35:59]: Um landscaping requirement would be a part of the condition. [1:36:00, 1:36:20]: which means that it would be, it would run with the land, which means that the owner of the land would be responsible for making sure that that landscaping gets done. Because in order to convert that building now to O and I, they're going to have to come in and get a new building permit and like. So they'll have to be able to show to staff that we have in fact complied with the installation. [1:36:19, 1:36:25]: of um the landscaping in accordance with whatever they agree to with the church. [1:36:28, 1:36:33]: Yes. And then that because and because the shrubberies, remember, they're gonna be on our property. [1:36:34, 1:36:37]: So we have every incentive to maintain them properly. [1:36:38, 1:36:42]: So the shrubberies that we're adding, like any other landscape strip. [1:36:42, 1:36:46]: that will be incumbent upon this landowner to maintain them. [1:36:58, 1:37:03]: It would still be it's still be applicable because it's a part of the zoning conditions. Yes, sir. [1:37:04, 1:37:16]: No matter what happens, as long as it stays zoned O and I, pursuant to those conditions, we have to maintain those shrubs. We can't just put them up today and then come back a few weeks later and take'em down. They are required to be there and maintained. [1:37:17, 1:37:37]: So on that note, one okay, you do have a question. Go ahead, Mr. Azan. Yeah, in addition to that, we discussed uh uh the frontage of the building. There would be uh upgraded landscaping and the correct uh for it to uh be in keeping with planting and shrubbery to uh for the attractiveness of the of the correct and um we can add [1:37:37, 1:37:50]: that as a condition that there be landscaping in the front and that we um work cooperatively with the church to do the landscaping along the perimeter, um along the cemetery. And we will do both of those things. [1:37:50, 1:38:10]: In addition to that, we just want to make sure again we're asking uh as before we go through that each business maintain the right-of-way all the way to uh the pavement, not just including the right-of-way. Is that agreeable? Um I don't know if staff has a picture. I don't want to go too far past you're talking about along our frontage. Right. It's to the it's just to [1:38:10, 1:38:14]: to the pavement. That's what the city code is, it's to the pavement. [1:38:15, 1:38:22]: M Mr uh Mr. Anderson, Ryan? And could you uh pull up the she's looking for a a picture? Yeah. Could you pull that up please? [1:38:25, 1:38:29]: We certainly are gonna do anything that is along our frontage, no question. [1:38:29, 1:38:39]: Right, that's to the road basically is what you're doing. You're mowing the lawn. It shouldn't be the grass cut here and then right at the grass uncut. I got you. No, I hear I understand what you're saying. Yes. [1:38:40, 1:38:43]: Okay, thank you. We're gonna be maintaining all that area. Thank you. [1:38:44, 1:38:46]: Once again, any other questions for the council? [1:38:46, 1:39:02]: Now i b uh time for you, you've already he made a presentation, so you're good with the presentation, nothing different that needs to be done. His presentation is fine. Um we're just here um to answer any questions that you may have. I think staff has done a great job of explaining what the project is, and we're here to answer any further questions that you may have. [1:39:03, 1:39:04]: Okay. [1:39:04, 1:39:24]: On that note, there's no other questions. This is a public hearing. So I'm gonna open up the public hearing and then allow the audience or individuals to speak on this note. And uh we'll start with my on my left, which is way over here on the right side, four four. Any anybody wants to speak for or positively in reference to this particular [1:39:24, 1:39:32]: Particular project that's been brought before us over here in the very my very left side. Four. [1:39:33, 1:39:35]: Middle. Four. [1:39:36, 1:39:50]: My far right side, four. Okay, not seeing no, not hearing anybody. All right, so we'll go over here for anything against from my far left side. Um from this section over here, any have any comments against this actually being approved if if it's approved? [1:39:50, 1:39:51]: What's it? [1:39:51, 1:40:08]: Yes, sir. I still practicing the customary ten for and ten against. That's what we practicing. Well well we'll s we'll see how things work. We'll we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. Okay, this um okay, no one else against it this project and R and the far left. Anything in the middle? [1:40:08, 1:40:21]: And far end. Okay. So on that no comments one whatsoever. So I'll close the open hearing on that particular item. And on that note, uh council, is there a motion to approve this uh rezoning? Yes, ma'am. [1:40:27, 1:40:27]: Number nine. [1:40:30, 1:40:40]: Case R Z two twenty twenty two dash three in consideration of a request of change in zoning from R R residential to OI office institutional [1:40:41, 1:40:44]: Okay, sir, second. Uh excuse me, sir. [1:40:54, 1:40:54]: Second. [1:40:55, 1:41:15]: Okay, motion has been made in the second. Any further discussion? All flavor, please indicate the unamounced decision. Thank you very much. All right, next what's next is variance case RV 2022-02. Consideration to request for one A variance to reduce the required minimum lot width of 125 feet to 96.5. [1:41:15, 1:41:35]: Two, a variance to reduce the buffer on the eastern side from 50 feet to zero feet, and three, a variance to reduce the buffer on the western side of the property from 50 feet to zero feet for 0.964 acres at 3884 Walt Stevens Road in landlock. [1:41:34, 1:41:52]: twenty five of District twelve comprising parcel a number zero three one dash zero two zero one two zero zero zero application by CKC Commercial Properties L C CO Battle Law PC presented by once again by Mr. Ryan Anderson sir please [1:41:53, 1:42:02]: Okay, good evening. There's um attached on the screen is a is a um a aerial photo of of the subject property. [1:42:03, 1:42:13]: Um there are extraordinary and exceptional circumstances pertaining to the pertaining to the size of the subject property that are not found on the other properties in the same zoning district. [1:42:17, 1:42:37]: The front section of the property is 100 feet in the rear of the property. As a result, the property is very, very narrow, which would not meet the minimum lot requirements of the unified development code. The reduction of the buffers would allow any necessary development of the property. A literal interpretation of the provision of the unified development code. [1:42:37, 1:42:57]: Would deprive the applicants of the rights commonly enjoyed by owners of other properties located in the same zoning district. Since the subject, since the building is not 125 feet wide as required by development standards of the OI zone, the applicant may not use it for institutional purposes by reducing the minimum lock width from [1:42:57, 1:43:17]: From 125 feet to 96.37 feet, the applicant could utilize the existing building for institutional purposes. Granting a variance will not confer upon the property owner any special privileges that are denied to other owners of property in the same zoning district. The requested variances will be consistent with [1:43:17, 1:43:37]: The purposes and intent of the Unified Development Code and will be compatible with uses on neighboring properties and will serve the public welfare. By approving the requested variances, the subject property will be used to assist children who need special therapy assistance. The extraordinary circumstances are not the result. [1:43:36, 1:43:56]: of the actions of the applicant. The building was developed as a church and a Masonic lodge with a narrow front section. The requested variances are the minimum relief that would allow the legal use of the land, building or structures. The proposed rezoning to OI would allow the owner to use the subject property for the speech therapy facility. [1:43:56, 1:44:07]: Therefore, the variance is not a request to permit a use of land, buildings, or structures that is prohibited in the same zoning district. Staff recommend approval of three variants. [1:44:10, 1:44:11]: So [1:44:14, 1:44:30]: Does anything else you need to show us on this sir at all? That's it, sir. Okay, all right. Council, any yes sir. Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. Um are we looking at this map as the church facing north? Or we look at the eastern section to be, is that would that be on the then would be on the right side? Yes sir on this map? [1:44:32, 1:44:36]: Then if we reduce it buffet we took uh fifty feet to zero. [1:44:38, 1:44:45]: That's that is the coming a parking. They're they're putting the parking lot in the front of the building. So they're reducing it to put the parking lot in the front. [1:44:46, 1:44:47]: You don't have to point it. [1:44:48, 1:44:57]: Yes. Uh I can use this. There's a better photo in the um in the presentation that the in the applicants uh package that we didn't have. Um [1:45:14, 1:45:20]: Where's the zero feet? Is that on the east side of the building, closer to the cemetery, or are you talking about in the front of the building? [1:45:23, 1:45:28]: Very decent. [1:45:33, 1:45:35]: What was the name of your presentation, Michelle? [1:45:41, 1:46:01]: My concern is taking the buffer to zero on that side, which the eastern side goes toward the church. Sir. If I could, I think um the issue is, I think you pointed out in the Zoom, Miss Battle, that the church had actually encroached upon the property on the on the east side. Is that what the issue is? [1:46:01, 1:46:06]: boundary. They will actually have p has some graves on the site of the actual building itself. [1:46:07, 1:46:15]: So I think that um the main thing is to distinguish between um the setback and the buffer. [1:46:16, 1:46:35]: So right now the zoning ordinance requires us to install a 50-foot buffer over and above the setback requirement. And the way that the buffer works is that we would be able to do no work within that buffer on either side. [1:46:36, 1:46:56]: The buffer is in place only because the properties next door are still zoned residentially. But the truth of the matter is, neither one of those properties are used in a residential context. They're all zone, they're used for a church, but they're zoned like it's a house. [1:46:56, 1:47:13]: So part of what we feel is that we shouldn't be held to that buffer requirement because we are not adjacent. The purpose of it is to protect you from single family detached homes. We're not a single family detached home. So there's really no reason to have the buffer there. We have the setback. [1:47:13, 1:47:20]: And the problem with the buffer is on the front of the property where we're gonna be putting in um [1:47:21, 1:47:31]: the the driveway and the um parking area, the buffer would obscure our ability to do that because we would have to have a buffer all the way across the front. [1:47:32, 1:47:48]: And our building currently sets within the buffer because the build the remember the property isn't that wide. So if you've got a fifty foot buffer, literally it overlaps. The property's only like ninety-four feet wide. That's why we're asking for a variance. So if you got a buffer fifty feet [1:47:49, 1:48:03]: to the center and fifty feet to the other s on the other side, that means they overlap. There's literally no buildable envelope available on the property. So what we're asking is to remove that buffer requirement, because it's not necessary on either side. [1:48:03, 1:48:13]: the landscaping, you all have already approved that we are required to do that landscaping um along the one side, particularly adjacent to the um the cemetery. [1:48:13, 1:48:33]: And by removing um the the buffer, we also can do the parking area. I think you can see this on the screen up here now. Um the parking area here, um, in order to put the parking lot in, we can't have the buffer. Because remember again, this property is 94 feet across, and the buffer [1:48:33, 1:48:35]: [6516.1, 6518.9]: And the eastern side is fifty feet. [1:48:39, 1:48:41]: So they that's the whole property. [1:48:43, 1:48:53]: Does that make sense? Understand. I I understand, Miss Battle. Well let me ask you a question. If you remove the if you take the buffer and remove it to zero, then what uh what is the setback you're gonna have in place? [1:48:53, 1:49:08]: Um I believe the setback, I want to say the setback here, if I can enlarge this. Uh hold on, let me put it to the slideshow. See if uh puts it up here. [1:49:08, 1:49:21]: Okay, good deal. All right, and let's do this. This is a normal setback. Yeah, seventy five. I think the setback is ten feet on either side. Is ten feet? Um I believe so. It's ten feet. [1:49:23, 1:49:23]: Can't see that. [1:49:25, 1:49:32]: See the ten or fifteen feet on each side. I can't see the little writing there, but we're not in we meet the the setback. [1:49:35, 1:49:36]: What do you say? [1:49:36, 1:49:56]: Site plan is in the presentation. Yeah, this is the site plan. I'm looking at it right here. Um, we're not encroaching over the setback requirement. As you can see on the plan up here, we're showing where the setback is. So we're not actually at 10 feet. Yeah, what I believe that the setback right there is 10 feet, and we're at that 10 feet. Whatever it is, we're not encroaching. [1:49:56, 1:49:57]: approaching over it. [1:49:58, 1:50:06]: So we didn't have to ask for a setback variance. We only had to ask for the removal of So the setback on each side would still be ten feet without the without the fifty foot business. Yes. Correct. [1:50:07, 1:50:27]: So we're not impacting the setback. Remember, there's a distinction between the setback and the buffer. The buffer is there to have an un typically an undisturbed area with trees and the like that's buffering a residential community from a non-residential use. Well, that's not our circumstance. We've got non-residential on all three sides. [1:50:27, 1:50:28]: [6630.3, 6630.8]: Okay. [1:50:31, 1:50:33]: No questions at all, Council. [1:50:36, 1:50:56]: Ms. Battle, did you have anything else for a presentation? Has this covered it with Mr. Ryan's covered everything? Um I well, let me give my name and information again. 3562, Haversham at North Lake, uh Tucker, Georgia, 30084, Michelle Battle with Battle Law representing the applicant. Um we appreciate the approval of the rezoning. Um [1:50:56, 1:51:16]: The variances again are needed because we have an abnormally shaped lot. The frontage of the lot, which is smashed between the church and the additional property on the other side. This was subdivided out by the church because at one point it was all owned under one parcel. [1:51:16, 1:51:36]: Uh for whatever the reason is, when they subdivided that out, um the frontage was only 94 feet of frontage. And so we are asking to reduce the frontage requirement from the hundred feet that is required to um the frontage that we actually have. So we're not asking for more than what's already there, and that without doing that. [1:51:37, 1:51:41]: Um it would leave our lot as a non conforming lot. [1:51:42, 1:52:02]: Additionally, we asked for the removal of the two buffers on either side, mainly because one, we don't need the buffers as already explained. Secondly, we are going to do the landscaping as shown on the site plan and as just approved by City Council that we are required to have. [1:52:02, 1:52:22]: Landscaping along the side where the cemetery is located. So we will be providing that. In the front, we're going to be doing a parking lot. Again, in order to actually install the parking lot, we cannot have those buffers as well because that would cover all of the 100% of the area where. [1:52:22, 1:52:42]: the um parking is going to be placed. So the only improvements that you're going to see on this property are the ones that you see on the site plan. And we're fine with that being site plan specific. So we will have the building itself. We're not looking to do any enlargement of the building. We will be inhabiting [1:52:42, 1:52:50]: The building as is, and then we would simply be putting the parking lot in front with the landscaping along the side and in the front. [1:52:52, 1:52:55]: Okay. Any questions for uh Miss Battle at all? Anybody? [1:52:56, 1:53:16]: Okay. And thank you. Miss Ryan, anything else? Okay, thank you very much. All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is uh part of the uh public hearing. So I'd like to open the public hearing uh for this. So full so I'll start the course on my left, this right side over here. Anybody for and comments for this particular project on my right side. [1:53:16, 1:53:19]: I'm excited on my left side. In the middle. [1:53:21, 1:53:32]: Over here on the right side. My right side. Okay? Nothing for. Anybody any comments against any comments against this particular project? In my left, far left. In the middle? [1:53:34, 1:53:42]: Right. Seeing none, so I'll now close the public hearing. On that note, Council, is there a motion to approve this uh variance change or not? [1:53:43, 1:53:44]: So move. [1:53:44, 1:53:50]: Mr. Blount says so moved. Is there a second? Second. All right, Mr Alexander, second down. Any further discussion? [1:53:52, 1:53:58]: All in favor, please indicate. She announced the season. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. [1:54:02, 1:54:22]: And we'll move on. Comprehensive plan amendment case CP 2022-03. Consideration of requests for an amendment to the City of Stockbridge Comprehensive Future Land Use Plan for Low Density Vertical Mixed Use to High Density Residential to allow for mixed use residential development. Application. [1:54:22, 1:54:42]: By uh highway and 138 Spivey Road Land Assemblance LLC represented by Randy Stamney, the agent. The property contains 26.5 plus or minus total acres within a 12 parcel in land lot 42 of District 12 as listed. [1:54:42, 1:55:02]: below within this uh stop bridge city limits parcel number 012 dash zero two zero one three zero zero one located on the south side of highway 138 Lake Spivy Park way across from the Glen Dovin Road this is Devon Road contains 14.01 acre [1:55:02, 1:55:22]: Acres, zone RR Rural Residential. Parcel number 012, 02009051, located on Spivey Road, south of Tributary Parkway, contains 7.40 acres, zone SR, suburban residential. Parcel number 012. [1:55:22, 1:55:42]: D zero one zero zero one zero zero zero located at uh one twelve twenty five highway one thirty eight west west of tributary parkway contains one point four four four acres zone C2 General Commercial [1:55:42, 1:56:02]: Parcel number 012 D0101200, located in the Southeast Corner Tributary Parkway and Berkeley Drive. Contains 0.501 acres, zone Z2 General Commercial. Parcel number 012 D Zero. [1:56:01, 1:56:21]: Located 1300 Berkeley Drive between Tributary Parkway and Star Creek Drive contains 0.475 acres. Zone C2, General Commercial. Parcel number 012 D010500. [1:56:21, 1:56:41]: Located at the southwest corner of Berkeley Drive and Star Creek Drive contains 0.375 acres. This zones the C2, excuse me, C2 General Commercial. Parcel number 012 and D01006000. Located at 1670. [1:56:41, 1:57:01]: 60 Star Circle contains 1.01 acres, zone C two general commercial. Parcel number 012 D0100700 located at 1600 Star Circle contains 0.731 acres zone zero two general commercial. [1:57:01, 1:57:21]: Number 012 D01008000, located at 1650 Star Circle, contains 0.968, Acres Zone C2 General Commercial. Parcel number 012 D0100900 located [1:57:21, 1:57:41]: To 1700 Star Circle, contains 1.21 acres, zone C2, General Commercial. Parcel number 012 D01010000, located in northwest corner of Berkeley Drive and Spivey Road, contains 0.737 acres, zone C2. [1:57:41, 1:58:00]: General Commercial and parcel number 012 D01011000, located at southeast corner of Berkeley Drive and Star Circle, contains 0.799 acres on zone Z2 General Commercial, presented by Mr. Ryan, please. [1:58:00, 1:58:15]: All right. Before I begin, I'd like for everyone to take a look at the screen. That's the vicinity map. It it'll tell you exactly where uh the proposed development is slated to take place. Um the proposed mix [1:58:16, 1:58:36]: Mixed residential project including 318 apartments and 50 townhomes with a proposed density rate of 13.8 units per acre, which fall well within the high density residential land use designation for which the applicant is seeking. The high density residential land use category has a range of six to sixteen units per acre. [1:58:35, 1:58:38]: Apparently the subject property includes twelve parcels. [1:58:45, 1:58:50]: Here's a um a aerial photo which includes all twelve parcels of the land on the screen. [1:58:57, 1:59:00]: The slide that we have up now is a zoning. [1:59:00, 1:59:15]: This is a copy of the zoning map. Um the current use of the land is vacant. The surrounding zoning to the north includes the Glen Devon subdivision off Glen Devon Road. It's vacant. Um [1:59:16, 1:59:36]: And you have the Tranquil Trails Development, three shopping centers at Spivey Cummings at 1175, Highway 138. West of the property, you have vacant land. South, you have Spivey Ridge Subdivision, off Spivey Ridge Circle and Cindy County. East of the property, you have Bailey's Estate Subdivision, off Spivey Glen. [1:59:36, 1:59:56]: Which is in the city, and Spivig Land subdivision off Spivigland Drive, which is in the county. Currently, the proposed development is not consistent with the comprehensive land use designation of low-density vertical mixed use for the subject property. The existing designation called for low-rise building with commercial uses on the ground floor and residential uses. [1:59:56, 2:00:16]: On the upper floors, whereas the applicant is proposing to build a purely residential development with apartments and townhomes. The applicant has requested a comprehensive plan amendment to change the property's land use designation to high density residential will allow for the proposed residential densities. The applicant does not wish to develop the types of [2:00:16, 2:00:21]: uses which the low density vertical mixed use future land use designation called for. [2:00:25, 2:00:34]: The proposed high-density land use designation for the subject property is reasonable due to the property's frontage on Highway 138. [2:00:45, 2:00:58]: Due to the subject property, property's frontage on Highway 38, which is a state highway, it is unlikely that the property will be developed with the types of uses which are called for by the existing low density vertical mixed use designation. [2:00:59, 2:01:04]: Staff has staff recommends approval of the comprehensive plan amendment. [2:01:08, 2:01:11]: And on the screen is a copy of the um future land use map. [2:01:16, 2:01:20]: Is that it, sir for now? Okay, council. Any questions for Mr. Ryan? Yes. Go right here, please. [2:01:21, 2:01:41]: Uh Ryan, thank you for that excellent presentation. I certainly appreciate that. I think um in our last zoning hearing what we discussed was the city's definition of high density was far uh less than what other surrounding jurisdictions were deeming. [2:01:40, 2:01:59]: high density. And it was the desire of the staff to cutter at some point to mesh us up with what the surrounding jurisdictions were deeming to be uh high density, because really and truly, if it was surrounding jurisdiction had this particular designation, it might not be designated as high density. Is that correct? [2:01:59, 2:02:00]: Yes, sir, that is correct. [2:02:00, 2:02:20]: Okay, so at some point staff did want to endeavor to correct that. So basically it's out of balance with the surrounding jurisdictions. Is that correct? Yes, due to the changing conditions at the city of Stockbridge is as it has underwent growth, as the population has expanded, the current um six to sixteen units per acre uh [2:02:20, 2:02:27]: Uh high density residential category really is for a suburban type community. Stockbridge is becoming more and more urbanized. [2:02:28, 2:02:48]: Okay, all right, absolutely. So in terms of uh the things that are are going on, it is uh the staff recommendation for this was was was for approval, is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay, and based on that uh recommendation you had look at what the surroundings look like, what the future [2:02:48, 2:03:08]: call for. And your sp in your opinion, you've stated to us clearly that what is defined as now is a very low likelihood of that ever occurring. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay. All right. And um in terms of uh things, I just in terms of what's going on here, y'all I I want [2:03:08, 2:03:28]: Wanna address the audience and understanding what's going on here? Please understand that what goes on here is that our hands are tied. Every last one of you all are gonna come to the podium and you're gonna tell us about traffic and you're gonna tell us about the stand by, stand by. [2:03:28, 2:03:48]: Okay, but what what are the specific questions we have for Mr. Mr. Ryan? I'm gonna I'm gonna get to that point. If you just give me give me about 60 more seconds, I'm gonna get to that point. If you give me 60 seconds. In terms of where we're trying to go, we bit the schools submitted a letter, the surrounding jury we we uh offered obviously there's gonna be some improvements that are in closing. [2:03:48, 2:04:01]: with the highway parkway corridor, correct? Yes, sir. Mm-hmm. Okay, those that it mandates that and also because the uh the the development is fronting on the state highway, uh G Dot and uh [2:04:01, 2:04:07]: And uh Henry County uh Department of Transportation will have some say so in overall transportation design. [2:04:07, 2:04:09]: Can I have Miss Carter come to the podium, please? [2:04:12, 2:04:20]: Hi, Miss Carter. Uh by the way, Ryan, is anybody any other attorneys or besides you and and maybe Miss Carter here need to pr present for us before we open up for uh public hearing? [2:04:21, 2:04:28]: Uh Mr Gardner, will you come to the podium? Excuse me? The applicant is here but no other tarnatives. Okay. Okay. Thank you. [2:04:30, 2:04:50]: Boy, Miss Carter. I have a I have a c I have a question for them. Uh in terms of over the last year, we have been jointly meeting with Clayton County, Henry County, and the city of Stockbridge working on a community improvement district for that. Ms. Carter, I believe you are part of that board. Uh one of those endeavors was for us to [2:04:50, 2:05:06]: complete feasibility studies for improvements that were needed along Highway 138 and submit a request uh along with Clayton and Henry County for additional funding. Uh by con we contacted Congressman Scott's office uh to assist us with that. Are you aware of that? [2:05:06, 2:05:14]: That's correct. The we have a consultant that's working with all three jurisdictions to make sure we have a fluid and uh collaborative plan. [2:05:15, 2:05:35]: Okay. That the timing as we had connect called and connected with uh Congressman Scott's office was the Biden infrastructure bill was available and they had advised us that we needed to do feasibility studies in order to grab uh that money and to be uh have our projects be shovel ready when the money was being dispersed. Is that correct? [2:05:35, 2:05:41]: That's correct. And that is part of this location along with several others throughout Clayton and Henry counties. [2:05:41, 2:06:00]: So basically what has d been determined is that there's a need for improvement to Highway 138. We would need to submit these feasibility studies to assist uh Congressman Scott's office in assisting us. We're garnering the millions of dollars or the trillion dollars, some of that trillion dollars that is available through [2:06:00, 2:06:02]: the Biden infrastructure bill, is that correct? [2:06:02, 2:06:22]: Correct. And also the um joint cities and county for Henry County Transportation and Trails Plan calls for that as well. Calls for many improvements. Absolutely. And Mr. Gardner, you're you're very well aware of what we've been doing in terms of meeting. Uh the Clayton County Commissioner, DeMont Davis is on the on the call, you're on the call. [2:06:22, 2:06:42]: Several others on the call. Carlotta Hurrell, Chairwoman is on it on the call. Sherry Matthews is on the call. In addition, all of us is the first time that we've all been able to sit down collectively and work jointly in pursuing the millions of dollars that are due to this area in order to prove this. Is that correct, Mr. Gardner? Can you talk about your [2:06:42, 2:06:45]: awareness of these meetings over the last year. [2:06:46, 2:06:50]: Well yes, sir, I've been a part of those meetings for the last eight months since I've been on board. [2:06:51, 2:07:11]: Um where the count the two counties are looking at improving the highway one hundred thirty eight uh corridor, um pretty much from Clayton County all the way through and down forty two. Um that's been what we've been working on the last eight months since I've been here. And uh we're looking at going after those funding sources through [2:07:11, 2:07:14]: through the feds uh to make the implementation of it happen. [2:07:15, 2:07:35]: All right. And part of that is a community improvement district being established similar to what you see at Cumberland. Galleria or areas are similar to that. Uh the concept plans that were created created uh ten foot multi-use paths down both sides of Highway 138. Uh the concepts include outside dining. Uh [2:07:35, 2:07:42]: Uh in addition to that um uh beautification is that in in terms of the median and the uh right of ways, is that correct? [2:07:43, 2:07:58]: It is. It is, yes. And you all are continuing to meet uh on a regular basis to bring this to a closure. And I think NickelWorks, the uh who's working on the feasibility study, indicated that it was ready for presentation and would be presented to this council. [2:07:58, 2:08:11]: That's correct. We w have received the study late last week to review and we'll be meeting with them and the other jurisdictions to discuss our comments. And from there we'll be scheduling for nickel works to come out and present to each jurisdiction. [2:08:11, 2:08:31]: Right. And in in your professional opinion, when we're showing and d demonstrating that w new growth is coming to that area, such as this development and the one across the street, that would probably help us in in garnering those funds to show that there is new growth and that uh those funds are being needed as new people move to [2:08:31, 2:08:33]: to the area with your professional pin. [2:08:34, 2:08:35]: I believe that it would, yes. [2:08:35, 2:08:36]: All right, thank you. [2:08:38, 2:08:44]: All right. Any other any other questions? Steph, hold up hold on folks. Calm down please. Calm down. [2:08:45, 2:08:47]: Calm down. Any other questions for the council? [2:08:48, 2:08:49]: Any questions from the council? [2:08:50, 2:09:02]: Uh Mr. Uh Ryan. Yes sir. Please step forward please. The applicant. You said the applicant's here? Yes. Did the applicant want to add anything in reference to what you've said thus far? There we go. Stemmed up. [2:09:09, 2:09:11]: And name and address sir in and on your company. [2:09:12, 2:09:14]: Absolutely. Uh good evening. [2:09:15, 2:09:16]: My name is Zach Murray. [2:09:16, 2:09:19]: My address is thirty Macon Street, McDonald, Georgia. [2:09:20, 2:09:21]: Three zero two five two. [2:09:26, 2:09:30]: Uh overall I wanted to start by [2:09:32, 2:09:35]: the vision statement of Stockbridge. [2:09:35, 2:09:40]: I'm a huge fan of Stockbridge overall. The vision statement says [2:09:40, 2:09:47]: That your vision is to be the most progressive business and family oriented community in Metro Atlanta. [2:09:48, 2:09:54]: With a focus to enhance quality of life initiatives, which promotes [2:09:56, 2:10:01]: А сустей, ворк, плей, ермент. [2:10:04, 2:10:08]: What myself and our partners at TELIS Partners [2:10:08, 2:10:13]: want to do is create that live, work, play environment. [2:10:15, 2:10:18]: That would put us on the map to be the most progressiv. [2:10:19, 2:10:21]: in the metropolitan Atlanta area. [2:10:28, 2:10:33]: Are you trying to show us a pr okay, there I guess I was I was wondering if you trying to show us a presentation there? Yes, sir. Okay. [2:10:43, 2:10:47]: So how this started, I am a resident of Henry County. [2:10:47, 2:10:56]: And I saw the investment that you all made into your own city with the amphitheater. I saw the plans that you had to revitalize your downtown. [2:10:57, 2:10:58]: And I want to be a part of it. [2:10:59, 2:11:03]: So I initially wanted to find [2:11:03, 2:11:04]: Something [2:11:04, 2:11:08]: That could be an addition, that can increase the value. [2:11:09, 2:11:10]: As I saw [2:11:11, 2:11:16]: Тwенти сикс. Дара деслат. Даса дumping сайт now. [2:11:16, 2:11:22]: That has homeless population living there, and one of the most opulent communities that we have. [2:11:23, 2:11:25]: And the spy community. [2:11:28, 2:11:29]: I began to [2:11:30, 2:11:37]: get with my partners and we created what we wanted to turn into tranquil trails. [2:11:44, 2:11:47]: This is the oversight that you saw before. [2:11:48, 2:11:52]: This is a 3D rendering over the top of it. [2:11:53, 2:12:05]: This would include a Cabana Bar and Grill, which is the building that you see on the screen now. That is also the association office as well as the leasing office for the multifamily units. [2:12:13, 2:12:19]: I know I've heard plenty of meetings where a community has cried out. [2:12:19, 2:12:25]: For retail, for healthy foods. We have seen sprouts come and they just never come through. [2:12:26, 2:12:31]: It was important to me that what we brought was a signification of quality. [2:12:31, 2:12:37]: Uh so we do have all signed leases and commitments for all of our retail space. [2:12:38, 2:12:41]: Our anchor being nourish and bloom. [2:12:42, 2:12:54]: Uh I will pause in my presentation and invite the founders and owners of Nourish and Bloom to the podium. They are excited to become a part of Stockbridge enough to where they wanted to come speak to you yourself. [2:12:58, 2:13:06]: They've also it's a slightly different product than what they have at Trilith, but I I'll let them explain that. [2:13:06, 2:13:11]: Welcome. And introduce yourself and your lo uh location of your address please and company. [2:13:11, 2:13:15]: So good evening everyone. My name is Jalea Hemings. [2:13:16, 2:13:18]: Hello, everyone. My name is Jamie Hemmings. [2:13:18, 2:13:31]: And we're both residents of Henry County and McDonough in zip code three oh two five two as well. And we're really excited about the opportunity to bring the future of shopping. [2:13:31, 2:13:33]: to the south side. [2:13:33, 2:13:36]: Of Atlanta, especially Henry County, where we all live. [2:13:37, 2:13:42]: Prior to us opening Nourish and Bloom Market, we found ourselves traveling. [2:13:42, 2:13:54]: to Atlanta to find healthy options for our family. And I said, that's the one thing that I wish we had here so I wouldn't have to leave on the weekends and go to another city to get our needs met. [2:13:55, 2:14:00]: So when Zack presented us with the opportunity that was here in Henry County, Jamie and I jumped on it. [2:14:00, 2:14:07]: Because currently we have a location right now in Fayetteville, um under the in the town of Trillieth. [2:14:07, 2:14:23]: where we've been able to bring Nourish and Bloom Market. So Nourish and Bloom Market is the first autonomous grocery store in the southern United States, which is a huge accomplishment. We were excited to bring it to Georgia. All the other tech companies weren't thinking of Georgia as a place to bring this level of technology. [2:14:24, 2:14:44]: But in the next five years, you're gonna start to see this type of technology where you can walk into a store with your app, be able to get your needs met without having to go through a traditional checkout process. Through the pandemic, is when we created this, when everyone was looking for touchless options. And we wanted to be that solution. So if someone is sick, you still are able to get your growth. [2:14:43, 2:15:00]: groceries. If for any reason that your store can't be open or different holidays and so forth, the store can still run. But we have, and I can tell you with our store in Trillith, have have more staff than we would have if our store was a traditional grocery store. So we are training for jobs of the future. [2:15:00, 2:15:06]: We're bringing what the future of grocery looks like, but most importantly, we're bringing an offering that we do not no longer will have to go. [2:15:07, 2:15:07]: To Atlanta. [2:15:08, 2:15:12]: to go get, we will be able to get it in Henry County, which we are really excited about. [2:15:12, 2:15:23]: And then also we have robots as well. And so the part of the robots is is that if you need food and you're not able to come to us, we can come to you. If you don't want to have a human come to you, we have robots that [2:15:23, 2:15:31]: are able to also come to you. So we're really excited about bringing this to our home and we're open to any questions that you have. [2:15:32, 2:15:44]: Okay. Um all right, good. Council. Any questions for Zach or the these uh this one wonderful couple here? Sure. Does anybody else want to speak before? anybody questions on this side? [2:15:44, 2:15:47]: Go right ahead please. Uh go go ahead, Miss Ms. Gantt. Hi and welcome. [2:15:47, 2:15:58]: Um, could you tell me uh if this project is approved, what your starting time frame would be to consider starting to break ground here? [2:15:58, 2:16:18]: Sure. You want to talk to that? Well, you would. Yeah. I our our goal overall is as soon as possible. If we were approved tonight, we would be immediately working on the LDP. Uh we don't want any delays. I feel the time is now. I feel what we can add to the community. [2:16:18, 2:16:22]: community, we we are ready and prepared to move forward as as soon as possible. [2:16:24, 2:16:26]: When would you open? I'm sorry. When would you open? [2:16:28, 2:16:29]: When would you open? [2:16:29, 2:16:43]: Uh the your build out is how long? So our build out is around six to eight months. So we're looking at next year if all things go according to their their lease is contingent upon the zoning. Uh so [2:16:44, 2:16:51]: And is it um the same exact concept in as the one in Fayetteville right now that you have? [2:16:51, 2:16:55]: Yeah, so our actually our plan is that [2:16:56, 2:17:16]: So the one that we currently have in Fayetteville, it's only 1400 square feet. So the one that we would be bringing here to Henry County would actually be much larger. And then also the concept that my wife had talked about earlier as far as having robotic delivery, that would be something. [2:17:16, 2:17:36]: Something that is very unique to this space itself because that is not something that is actually planned out in the current location that we have. But talking with Zach, they can actually make room and have paths set up for the robots to go through. [2:17:35, 2:17:38]: throughout the community and actually deliver. [2:17:38, 2:17:58]: So um and then one other thing on the product offering. So we'll be bringing more of a product offering. So we'll have uh you know, butchers and seafood and bakeries all within this concept, which are too small our current location is too small to have that. And we're also gonna bring in our bistro. So we our whole mission is about real food and real products. We started this because my [2:17:58, 2:18:18]: Son had autism and we learned the importance of diet. And so for us, we want to make sure that we're bringing the best and the highest quality ingredients. So you'll have our bistro, but you'll also have fresh meats, fresh fish, fresh produce, and a bakery as well added into our concept. But also the biggest thing for us is that for the [2:18:18, 2:18:38]: community itself, it would be great to to get their input as far as what type of products that they would like within the store itself. We want them to be a part of you know this process. So for them to give us their input so that we can see what products they actually want within the store, we would actually uh [2:18:38, 2:18:40]: preferred that feedback from the community. [2:18:42, 2:18:45]: All right, thank you. Any other questions? Ms. Alzheimer, go ahead, please. [2:18:45, 2:19:05]: Certainly uh thank you all. You know, I remember um going over to Fayetteville, and then uh you all were so hospitable. It was beautiful over there uh at Trilleth, and you took me on a tour of the store, not knowing that you would be coming here to Stockbridge at some point, but I certainly was uh uh I certainly appreciate you all leaning forward. [2:19:05, 2:19:25]: Forward and wanting to be in Henry County. I remember you guys want Good Morning America, I believe it was, and they highlighted what you all were being able to do. So certainly, you know, you bringing a quality product here. So the product uh organic would be available too in terms of what you're [2:19:25, 2:19:32]: doing and then the square footage you say was fourteen hundred over there. What what would be what would be your approximately square footage here? [2:19:32, 2:19:40]: It would it would be uh six thousand square feet. It would be six. So this would be a larger location that we would be bringing to Henry County. [2:19:40, 2:19:58]: Mm-hmm. Absolutely. And and and I love what you said, which is you want to invest where you live. Correct. You know, you're tired of going to Atlanta like most of us are for those particular uh things and when we can have it right here in our community. So uh thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. [2:19:59, 2:19:59]: Mm-hmm. [2:20:00, 2:20:13]: You have questions, council. All right. Thank you. Well is the public question? No. Public hearing. Oh I'm sorry. Sorry. Do you have anything else for before I open up? I do. [2:20:14, 2:20:23]: Next after this we have a multifamily. Okay. And uh I do have the acquisition, uh Jonathan Schrader. [2:20:23, 2:20:38]: uh from tell us uh who will speak he is in charge of more of the construction and the acquisition of it so I would uh like him to come speak to what this multifamily uh development would be [2:20:42, 2:20:44]: Your name and organization, please, sir. [2:20:44, 2:20:52]: Uh Jonathan Schrader, TELUS Partners, uh 4983, New Peachtree Road, Chambley, Georgia. [2:20:52, 2:20:53]: Okay, go ahead, please. [2:20:54, 2:21:14]: Um we just want to make the comment that um if you read the staff's analysis and their approval of it, you know, we stay within the one key factor of the unified development code within Stockbridge is that this is encouraging the most appropriate and best use of the land in [2:21:14, 2:21:24]: buildings for the city. I mean we're five hundred feet from a highway or half a mile or from a state highway, half a mile from a major highway. [2:21:25, 2:21:45]: We put nice workforce housing in a luxury manner on the ground for people that are young professionals, people before their families, to encourage them to come live in our resort style apartments to help raise up the revenue and tax basis of the city. Um, you know. [2:21:44, 2:21:52]: When mixed use projects are done correctly, they raise the property value around it. You know, nourish and bloom, a nice commercial. [2:21:53, 2:22:07]: retail aspect to a property is good for the community. It takes a empty, vacant dumping ground, like Zack said, and turns it into a flourishing community, residential and commercial. [2:22:08, 2:22:11]: Okay. Good. Any questions for this gentleman, Council? [2:22:12, 2:22:22]: Anybody? Certainly. Go right, please. If you would talk about some of the other projects that you've done to show that you have the track record to be able to complete this particular project. [2:22:22, 2:22:36]: Um currently we've completed six projects throughout Georgia and Florida. We have five other projects currently in production. We have a big mixed use project up near Kennesaw, the university off Cherokee Street. [2:22:37, 2:22:57]: where we're doing 500, we took we assembled sixty-five trailer park lots and turned it into, we're turning it into five hundred and seventy-six apartment units, both garden and mid-rise, as well as bringing a Lydol, a senior living facility. [2:22:57, 2:22:59]: and other retail commercial [2:23:00, 2:23:05]: Two Kennesaw that took a desolate trailer park that was about half [2:23:05, 2:23:08]: occupied and then turning it into a good [2:23:08, 2:23:12]: next use project for the city of Kennesaw that they're very excited about. [2:23:12, 2:23:28]: We also have a project in Bolton Road that's very similar. We're a dead retail center. We're building an apartment complex with it based on its current zoning and then rehabbing the commercial aspect for that. [2:23:29, 2:23:49]: Uh retail owner who has signed up tenants very similar to Nourish and Bloom to occupy their retail that's been um not occupied for several years. Okay. One other question. Zach or the you sir, talk about the total investment because in order for you all to make this sizable type of investment, you've done the homework. [2:23:49, 2:24:06]: where you're investing millions of dollars in this development. So let's say if it was totally w once it's totally built out and you plan on doing the commercial and the residential, uh what type of money are you all investing in this community that uh you've chosen? [2:24:06, 2:24:15]: This is close to a hundred million dollar project with the um apartments, townhomes and then the commercial aspect to it. [2:24:16, 2:24:21]: Okay. So absolutely we s um Okay. Thank you, certainly. [2:24:22, 2:24:23]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [2:24:23, 2:24:43]: And currently you had mentioned and I know that everyone's has spoken to um some of Mayor and Council, at least I'm sure, at some point, you mentioned uh some of the commercial properties that the commercial pieces. Could you elaborate a little bit more on that? On um you have LOIs, you have people ready to go inside of them. [2:24:43, 2:24:52]: Now. Uh they yeah. They they are uh currently um working on the smoothie bar is actually already in. [2:24:53, 2:25:13]: Um the contingency leases that we have is Nourish and Bloom and the Cabana Bar and Grill. But all the other leases are signed and executed and out of good faith they've already started to work. There's a sports bar as well as a brunch restaurant a and a uh uh accounting firm that we [2:25:13, 2:25:15]: will also be inside of that platform. [2:25:15, 2:25:35]: Okay. And and Mr. Um Schrader. Schrader. Schrader. Yes. Schrader. Yes, ma'am. Um, you mentioned six projects that you're work currently working on. Have you completed any projects? Yes, we've completed seven projects or eight projects to date. Um two up in Gainesville, one in Panama City. [2:25:35, 2:25:39]: Savannah um wild light down in Florida. [2:25:39, 2:25:52]: Um Old Moultree, which is down in St. Augustine and Wildwood, Florida, are the ones we've completed. And then we have Kennesaw, which is two projects all going on Bolton Road. [2:25:54, 2:26:13]: Crescu, Florida, Santa Rosa, Florida, and then we have two other projects that we own the land and are currently zoned, and we're going through the uh civil design for the LDP drawings, one in Panama City Beach and one in Panama City. Yeah. This is the uh product near Gainesville, Oakwood, Georgia. Uh the completed product. [2:26:13, 2:26:20]: And are these projects uh the ones that are completed, uh s very similar to what you're trying to design here? [2:26:20, 2:26:36]: Yes, ma'am. It it is. We're we're fully integrated as a company. We're the developer, we're the G C and we make up most of our supply chain. Um so with that we've been able to control our costs and our delivery in this environment we've dealt with the last three years. [2:26:38, 2:26:58]: Sir, one more if I could. Go right, please. Yeah. Now there's been a lot of concern, especially from this audience, about the financial wherewithal of companies. We had a situation where this uh highway one thirty-eight hotel opened up, the b the the the person went out of business. Thank God somebody's finally bought that property and [2:26:58, 2:27:12]: plans on commit uh completing the best western at this point. Um we're waiting on the permits to come in. Talk about your financial wherewithal in terms of your balance sheet uh to complete the project, your network for the or the company, so to speak. [2:27:12, 2:27:13]: Well [2:27:14, 2:27:34]: The way we have currently we have about a billion dollars worth of projects in our pipeline. That's on property we own or under contract for or in the design phases on. We have several equity partners that have used the ten thirty-one exchange over the last ten years to [2:27:34, 2:27:54]: Place all their money and they just continue to roll it with us. So we're very solvent and control our own dusty in that standpoint. Obviously, the capital markets have changed a little bit, but with our vertical integration, with our GC in-house, our material supply companies in-house, we can control our unit costs. [2:27:54, 2:27:57]: [8877.9, 8881.7]: Mr Srady, you said a billion dollars, is that correct? Yes, sir. Thank you. [2:28:03, 2:28:05]: Any other questions from the council? Mayor Ford. Yes, sir, go ahead, please. [2:28:06, 2:28:26]: I'd like to thank you two gentlemen for bringing this um to the city of Stockbridge for our consideration. Uh you mentioned a number of uh cities uh where you have implemented these ideas. Can you sort of give us uh an ideal of the the response, uh the reaction to [2:28:26, 2:28:30]: to the citizenry and the occupancy in in those cities. [2:28:30, 2:28:41]: Uh Kennesaw is very excited to have us come on board. We've been working on that project for close to four years now with the parcel combination. [2:28:41, 2:29:01]: The rezoning, the extension of a public road, the dedication of that public road, the property swaps within it, they were very receptive to it because we took a trailer park and are turning it into a mixed-use um project with a senior living. [2:29:01, 2:29:16]: living, two apartments, a grocery store anchor, and then several other retail um commercial applications. Our our goal is always to add value, uh no matter where we are going. [2:29:17, 2:29:37]: You know, I I would think that um maybe in Florida or California, I think they'll probably sort of use to this style of a resort style. Uh I think bringing it in this region here, somewhat in the south and maybe in some of these rural areas, uh I I would think this is a pretty big deal for [2:29:37, 2:29:57]: I I would think that uh uh especially um young professionals would probably just gravitate toward this type of uh living and development. So would would you say that's a true statement? Yes, sir, I would. Yeah. All right, thank you, Mira. Now you're [2:29:57, 2:30:13]: Any other questions, comments from the council? I have one more. I have a few. So um you're targeting young yuppies, basically, you're targeting young earthquakes. Also empty masters. People people that have sold their single family home and are looking for a lock and leave mentality. [2:30:13, 2:30:32]: Okay. But you're n y so uh this property then I'm assuming won't have playgrounds and things of that nature. Uh I have more dog parks, um, high end pools, stuff like that. Trails, walking trails. And how many um bedrooms are the uh in the unit apartment units? [2:30:32, 2:30:45]: Uh it's about fifty fifty on single or one bedrooms and two bedrooms. We do offer eight, three bedrooms, just as a variety for people who like two bedrooms with an office, stuff like that. [2:30:45, 2:30:50]: How many three bedrooms? It's a two eight out of three hundred and eighteen. So two percent. [2:30:52, 2:31:04]: Okay, so eight total units. Yeah, two bedrooms with an office. Yeah, but this this the apartments for this one have a hundred and fifty five one bedroom, a hundred and fifty five, two bedroom, and then eight three bedroom. [2:31:06, 2:31:08]: Let me see if I can show that. [2:31:11, 2:31:15]: Thank you, thank you for that. Anything else, Ms. Gat? [2:31:15, 2:31:17]: Um no, not at this time. [2:31:18, 2:31:33]: Okay, council, anything else? Yeah, oh go ahead, please. I have a question. Um you know, dealing with make use and you were dealing with residential and um commercial. Um and the portion that's you're talking about with the um [2:31:34, 2:31:41]: The residential portion that's not dealing with the town homes. How would that be managed? [2:31:42, 2:31:49]: Uh the townhomes are planned to be fee simple. Well not the townhomes. The apartment piece. How would that how would how would that be managed? [2:31:50, 2:31:53]: Uh be managed by our management company that we have. [2:31:53, 2:32:00]: Yeah, all in house. Yeah, we have an in-house management company that manages our properties and lease ups and um [2:32:01, 2:32:02]: Ongoing operations. [2:32:03, 2:32:11]: So it's a company that you actually use in now that uh would they would they also similar to our G C and our supply chain, we also have a management company. [2:32:11, 2:32:17]: And all internal inter underneath the umbrella. Under your properties now, does that management company also have his own security? [2:32:19, 2:32:20]: Typically, yes. [2:32:22, 2:32:32]: We have one property that doesn't they have it's gated and it's in Gainesville so they don't really need much security, but typically it just depends on the area and and operational needs. [2:32:33, 2:32:34]: Okay. [2:32:36, 2:32:40]: Okay. Any other questions? Miss Gar uh Miss Barber, go ahead please. [2:32:43, 2:32:51]: In terms of the egress and ingress um of this development, can you show a [2:32:52, 2:33:02]: plan of or a drawing of the streets that are there. Um [2:33:05, 2:33:07]: Let's get up the site plan. [2:33:13, 2:33:23]: I did take a drive over to this property and I did notice that it has become a dumping ground. Um but I was most uh concerned about [2:33:23, 2:33:43]: how people would access um the residential side and how those would access the commercial side as well. There's a median. Tributary parkway, which is kind of a this road that is already in coming off of 138, would be our main access point. [2:33:43, 2:33:55]: have another egress uh here on the other side of the plaza. There's also two that is on Spive Road as well. So there's four total that currently exist for the property. [2:33:55, 2:33:59]: I saw that. I do have um a question though. [2:34:00, 2:34:00]: So [2:34:03, 2:34:07]: If someone doesn't want to turn for whatever reason left. [2:34:07, 2:34:08]: If they're going [2:34:09, 2:34:10]: West. [2:34:10, 2:34:11]: On one thirty eight. [2:34:11, 2:34:13]: And they passed the light of [2:34:13, 2:34:14]: Spivey Road. [2:34:15, 2:34:17]: The only other way they they can access. [2:34:18, 2:34:19]: This development. [2:34:19, 2:34:21]: is to go up and make the U turn. [2:34:22, 2:34:42]: That point where they would make the U-turn, I did notice that there was, and I don't know if I'm using the correct term, a stub out or another access point. Another median code. Is that a part of this? Another median code, yes. Uh as a part of this, we're required to work with state DOT. Uh it is an [2:34:42, 2:34:57]: in our best interest that we be able to mitigate that, but that's not something we can change on our own without consulting the state. And you're talking about the out parcel on the far left. She's talking yeah, this parcel. We have plans to add that, just we haven't done it yet. Yeah. [2:34:59, 2:35:09]: that would become a part of your development? If we had a choice, yes. We just we're working with that property owner to see if they're willing to let it be part of it. [2:35:10, 2:35:13]: So it isn't currently. Currently not. Thank you. [2:35:18, 2:35:19]: Any other questions, Ms. Barber? [2:35:21, 2:35:38]: Okay, and council, any other questions? Gentlemen, thank you. Appreciate it. Okay. Thank you. Uh this is open. It's uh public hearing. So I'm gonna open a public hearing. So I'm gonna start off all as normal on my left side, which is uh over here, for any comments for approval. [2:35:39, 2:35:49]: Approval of this particular project. Approval this project. Please approval project, please la stand up right here. Yeah, line up right there if you it's approval. All right. Anybody else want to uh from the actual [2:35:50, 2:35:53]: My left side. Anybody in the middle for approval. Okay. [2:36:00, 2:36:00]: Excuse me. [2:36:06, 2:36:08]: No, I don't know. [2:36:09, 2:36:27]: I didn't know that was poll. One second here. No. Well Clerk, uh uh th that is a that is a n a necessity that needs to happen. I thought they what they stand in, they give their name and address, they can speak. [2:36:35, 2:36:35]: Uh-huh. [2:36:39, 2:36:48]: Okay, I will do so. I I was gonna do so. All right, so uh once again this is for the f uh for positive comments and forward project, okay? In the middle, anybody? [2:36:49, 2:36:51]: Mind far right side anybody. [2:36:51, 2:36:52]: Pause the comments. [2:36:54, 2:37:04]: If that's the case, okay, so what it amounts to, I leave where you come when you come to the podium, name and address and speak into the mic, address me as a presiding officer, please. Point point of order, sir. What [2:37:05, 2:37:09]: What's what's the point on it? Are we doing the ten minutes for and ten minutes against? That's in the city code. [2:37:11, 2:37:17]: Ten minutes for and ten minutes against. Right. Ten minutes three, stand up, stand up time, time out, time out, time, time out, time out. [2:37:17, 2:37:20]: Now I'll give a I'll give each person two minutes to speak. [2:37:20, 2:37:23]: Each person gets two minutes to speak. Matter of fact, um Madam Clerk. [2:37:26, 2:37:29]: I'm gonna give them two minutes. I need for you to have m have the timer ready to go. [2:37:32, 2:37:33]: Oh shit. [2:37:45, 2:37:47]: They don't have that. [2:37:48, 2:37:50]: Mm-hmm. [2:37:51, 2:37:54]: I'm gonna give give these these individuals two minutes to speak. [2:37:55, 2:37:56]: Four. [2:37:56, 2:37:57]: I'm gonna give'em I'm gonna go. [2:37:58, 2:37:58]: Excuse me? [2:38:03, 2:38:04]: You can't set the clock for two minutes? [2:38:06, 2:38:08]: But the clock is set for what is the clock set for? [2:38:10, 2:38:11]: What's the clock set for, ma'am? [2:38:13, 2:38:16]: You you cannot manually change that to two minutes. [2:38:22, 2:38:32]: All right. But once you start the clock, you can stop it at any time, it can stop at a particular point and you can restart it again. Is that correct? All right. Start it for ten minutes then. Mr. Marshall, please, name and address. [2:38:32, 2:38:41]: Uh Mayor Ford and City Council members, my name is Charles Marshall. My wife and I live at 140 Somerset Hills in the Eagles Landing area of unincorporated Henry County. [2:38:41, 2:38:50]: I want to first thank the thank you and the members of the city council for allowing this to be a public uh opportunity to come and weigh in on this all important issue. [2:38:50, 2:38:56]: We've lived uh in the English landing area for about eleven years and have thoroughly enjoyed being a resident of the community. [2:38:57, 2:39:17]: And we try to be active and involved with some of the policies and decisions affecting the development of the city of Stockbridge. Like many of us, our property borders right up against the property lines of Stockbridge. So we inherently have an interest in how the city develops and how it's managed. And we will be applying for annexation to the city. [2:39:18, 2:39:19]: So tonight we are presented. [2:39:20, 2:39:32]: Uh we have been presented with plans to build a beautiful mixed use development with many attractive amenities and concepts. I like many have never seen such a state of the art development and is creating an awful lot of excitement. [2:39:32, 2:39:40]: And I think that's because we wanna have a robust community with all the things that make us appreciative of one another as neighbors. [2:39:40, 2:39:47]: And to bring us all together as one. Being a resident of Eagles Landing Country Club community, I'm reminded of our cityhood movement. [2:39:48, 2:39:53]: Where we wanted to separate from the city of Stockbridge because we felt Stock Bridge was moving too slow. [2:39:54, 2:39:56]: We felt that development like this [2:39:58, 2:40:05]: What is being proposed tonight could never come to our community unless we took it upon ourselves as a new city to make that happen. [2:40:05, 2:40:22]: Eagles Landing would have loved to have brought such a development like this to our area because we knew that this would just be a start for a more vigorous growth of upscale development, bringing us better restaurants, corporate centers, shopping centers, maybe even a Whole Foods grocery. [2:40:22, 2:40:42]: And just as importantly, more sales tax dollars to better fund a stronger city government so that we can provide that much-needed traffic infrastructure improvements to better serve the people and making this a better place to live, work, and play. I see these things happening now. I see you as the city government making a very noticeable effort in bringing our vision of a great city. [2:40:42, 2:40:45]: I see it with the allocation. [2:40:46, 2:40:47]: What's semi? Is that ten minutes? [2:40:50, 2:40:50]: What [2:40:50, 2:40:58]: Okay. I did say that initially, but then you told me you couldn't you couldn't you can do it. [2:40:58, 2:41:07]: I didn't last you. I'm sorry, go ahead, please. Go ahead. I started at eight. [2:41:08, 2:41:28]: Okay. Well okay, that that's initially I thought we were gonna do that, but you but you told me you couldn't make it I wanted everybody to get two, but if but if you had to attend and I wanted to be able to s when we get more people I wanted to be able to stop it just like you did at that point. Okay, we may run out of time real quickly, but I want him to finish. Go ahead and run it. There's only I think there's only two individuals. Time out folks, timeout. [2:41:28, 2:41:29]: Mm-hmm. [2:41:30, 2:41:31]: Time out! [2:41:32, 2:41:46]: Okay? Listen. So we're we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna ten minutes, we'll start with ten minutes, all right? So let him finish and then uh and then when he stops when he's finished, stop it, and then the next person that comes up and then and when she starts gives her name and her address and you start it again. [2:41:46, 2:41:47]: Okay. [2:41:47, 2:41:54]: Wait, we're gonna let him do ten minutes. We're gonna restart this and let him continue. [2:41:55, 2:41:56]: No, no. [2:41:56, 2:42:11]: Well when he gets fin well when he gets finished and when he gets finished when he gets finished. I just have another thirty seconds. Okay, got it. Just let him finish. All right, then uh stop it. This next lady will come up, she'll give a name and address, and we'll start it. All right, and we'll see where we end up. [2:42:11, 2:42:31]: All right. Now thank you. Time out, folks. Go ahead, please. To continue, I see you as our city government making a very noticeable effort in bringing our vision of a great city first. I see it with the allocation of T-SPLOST funds to improve our traffic infrastructure with the widening of roads, installation of traffic lights, creation of trails, parks, sidewalks as part of a [2:42:31, 2:42:51]: Master plan, all to address the needs of a growing community. Many of us feel that our decision or your decision to approve the development of a state-of-the-art mixed-use development is just as important and just as impactful as your approval was in the development of the Bridges of Jodico mixed use development, as it was that gorgeous amphibious. [2:42:51, 2:43:04]: amphitheater and with the Cumming College uh Cultural Arts Center, the formation of a police department, and your visionary concept of a world-class stock bridge city downtown. As you know, the Eagles Landing community has formed a mass association. [2:43:04, 2:43:24]: An organization of six subdivisions within the Eagles Landing area, which now all work with the city of Stockbridge in keeping the area attractive, vibrant as we partner towards a brighter future. This must be the way for all of us. Together we can fix the infrastructure problems, beautify the city, and proactively plan for these types of development as we move forward. [2:43:24, 2:43:36]: to better the development of the city of Stockbridge. I support the decision of approving this mixed use development. Thank you. Sir. Now s now stop it, please. Stop stop it. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Ma'am, come on up, please. [2:43:39, 2:43:59]: Give it one you give your name and address. When she finishes her name and address, start the clock, please. All right. Um Mindy Mayers, um 1008 Peaks Point, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. I just want to say I support the mixed use development. I've seen one similar in Fayetteville, uh been to Nourish and Bloom. It is awesome there. Um also I've lived here for about twenty years. Um [2:43:59, 2:44:15]: Um I rarely go to one thirty eight. I just think that there should be some other things there to attract folks to one thirty eight. So I just want to say I support it. Thanks. Thank you. Now you're gonna now we're gonna reset because no more. So reset about the ten minutes and we'll talk. Yes ma'am? [2:44:22, 2:44:22]: Okay. [2:44:27, 2:44:30]: Okay, so y okay, you announced the fact that it was saved. [2:44:31, 2:44:34]: Stamp stand by, sir. I'm sorry. [2:44:39, 2:44:54]: Okay. Thank you. All right. There was no well else four. All right. Four okay. I'm sorry, did you okay, come on up, please, name and address. Did you uh did you s where where we stand with the where did we stand? She's four. So where do we stand with the time frame here? [2:44:57, 2:45:00]: Okay. Wait, after she gives her name and address, start the clock again, please. [2:45:03, 2:45:13]: Yeah, hi. Um my name is Grace and I live um at two fifteen memory lane, Stockbridge, Georgia. I live right on the corner of McDonald's, um right there for Spear Road. [2:45:13, 2:45:22]: And um I just wanna say I'm for the new development, the mixed development. I've been a resident here for five years now and I see Stockbridge. Um this was like my [2:45:23, 2:45:26]: This was the community I wanted to live in, you know, Stockbridge and um [2:45:27, 2:45:38]: I see the change that's going on here and um I'm looking forward to continued change. You know, you got the police department, the ample theater. When I first came here, I started make when I first moved here, I started making the meetings here. [2:45:39, 2:45:59]: with the um with the council and um you've done a good a good job so far in in changing stock stockbridge and i like to see more change and i i live exactly on the corner so if anybody's gonna be impacted as well it's gonna be me as well so i i'm for the change thank you thank thank you okay stop the clock okay now [2:45:59, 2:46:03]: This is four. Once again four. Anybody else four? If not, we'll reset the clock. [2:46:05, 2:46:17]: Hearing none, seeing none. So we reset it to 10 minutes. All right, now, looking for or against this particular project. I started with my very left, my left side, this section over here, and line up on that side if you if if you're interested in talking. [2:46:18, 2:46:26]: Okay, on my left side, anybody want to talk against sign line up over. In the middle? Anybody line up on this side over here? Anybody else in the middle wanna talk? [2:46:26, 2:46:34]: Against this project. Okay, on my far right side. Anybody wants to talk? Line up on this side, on this my very left side, this side. Okay? [2:46:37, 2:46:41]: Line line up in this side, please. On my far left side, line up this side. [2:46:49, 2:46:51]: All right, now this is how we're going to do this. [2:46:51, 2:46:54]: So how we're gonna do this. It's gonna start at 10 minutes. All right. [2:46:55, 2:47:08]: You've got other people you want to talk. All right, we're going to start with 10 minutes. Well don't not just yet, sir. Let me explain this. Ten minutes. All right. When you after you give your name and address, the clock will start. When you finish, it will stop. [2:47:09, 2:47:19]: All right. Now granted, start at ten minutes, that means that there's a limited amount of time. So the longer you talk, the more time you kick off kick off the clock, and maybe somebody else may not get a chance to speak. [2:47:19, 2:47:26]: All right. Uh hold on folks, hold on. Tat hold on. Hold on. We're making I'm making the rules. And now here now here's what's gonna happen. [2:47:26, 2:47:28]: If we run out of time. [2:47:28, 2:47:34]: I'm gonna give it to the council, decide if we're going to continue on with the comments. [2:47:34, 2:47:36]: Point play. Point play. [2:47:36, 2:47:37]: All right. [2:47:37, 2:47:38]: So [2:47:38, 2:47:41]: So hopefully you you're c concise and to the point. [2:47:42, 2:47:43]: All right. [2:47:43, 2:47:44]: All right. [2:47:44, 2:47:47]: Make sure you address me as a presiding officer. [2:47:47, 2:47:49]: Now speak directly into the mic. [2:47:49, 2:47:51]: Mayor Ford? Yes, sir. [2:47:51, 2:47:53]: May I make a statement just briefly? [2:47:54, 2:48:02]: Uh, citizen, I I I I think it would be very respectful if you know that there are other folk that really do want to speak. [2:48:03, 2:48:23]: I would appreciate if you just speak to the point and allow the person behind you to get their comments in as well. Because we do want to hear from everyone, but if one person is going to take up all of the time, someone behind you is going to really be upset because they didn't get a chance to speak. [2:48:23, 2:48:27]: speak. So let's just be mindful to let everyone get in. [2:48:27, 2:48:32]: These are standard rules, the ten minute rules, these are standard. This is not something that we're making up. [2:48:33, 2:48:33]: Thank you. [2:48:34, 2:48:34]: All right. [2:48:36, 2:48:38]: The clock's been set reset at ten minutes. [2:48:39, 2:48:41]: Okay. Go ahead, sir, your name and address, please. [2:48:41, 2:48:51]: Mayor Ford, I'm Charles Williams. I live at five thirty-four Creekstone Drive, Spive Glenn Subdivision. Thank you. Go ahead. The thing I we worry about in our area [2:48:52, 2:48:57]: Police protection fire department is waveled all round rock quarry. [2:48:57, 2:48:59]: Then starve itself. [2:48:59, 2:49:05]: At one time we were going to get a fire station over by Ingalls by um [2:49:05, 2:49:06]: Thank you. [2:49:06, 2:49:14]: County commissioner, but that fell through because of the station and it had asbestos downtown in Stockbridge. [2:49:14, 2:49:15]: How down by Krogers. [2:49:16, 2:49:29]: And um the water over in that area comes from Clayton County, for your information. So those are things we worry about, the protection and all. Thank you very much, sir. Thank you. Please stop the clock. [2:49:36, 2:49:37]: Name and address, please. [2:49:38, 2:49:43]: Ah my name is Marion D. Calhoun and I live at six oh eight Creekstone Court [2:49:43, 2:49:45]: Jonesboro, Georgia. [2:49:46, 2:49:47]: First of all I like to say [2:49:48, 2:49:53]: I do not care about what's going on in Fedville. I don't care about what's going on in Marietta. [2:49:54, 2:49:58]: I care about what's going on at six oh eight Creekstone Spivey Glenn. [2:49:58, 2:50:04]: I moved there for the reason that there was not all of this what you all are trying to do. [2:50:05, 2:50:06]: Second of all [2:50:07, 2:50:09]: You guys have already made your decision. [2:50:10, 2:50:13]: And you trying to thrust this down our throat like it's gonna be okay. [2:50:14, 2:50:16]: people that are speaking on the floor. [2:50:16, 2:50:23]: They don't even live in the area. They live somewhere else. So they're here trying to tell us how we wanna live on our side of town. [2:50:23, 2:50:25]: I don't like it. [2:50:25, 2:50:36]: Now I am a community activist and I don't mind voicing my opinion when my opinion needs to be voiced. And right now, we don't want your program, your project, [2:50:37, 2:50:52]: I love Zach. Zach and I work together on many pro on projects. He has been very instrumental in helping me with other stuff. But Zach knows me. He knows that when I put my foot to something, I just go for it. And right now, you see a whole bunch of people in here. [2:50:53, 2:50:57]: We don't have a voice. I heard somebody up there say [2:50:57, 2:50:59]: That you guys don't have a choice. [2:50:59, 2:51:02]: Well, if you don't have a choice in this right here. [2:51:03, 2:51:05]: You all don't need to be up there. [2:51:06, 2:51:11]: And if you can't help us with what we want, we don't want you up there. [2:51:11, 2:51:31]: Because this is not fair. You can't thrust this down our throat and tell us it's okay. Because it's not okay. We don't want that mixed whatever. And if we had to have it, why can't y'all do it in phases? Why you got to throw all of this in our face when we got drug problems, we got home. [2:51:31, 2:51:47]: Homeless problems. I don't never hear y'all talking about a mixed unit for people to live in a homeless program. None of that's going on. But you want to get rich with tax dollars so we can substitute whatever it is y'all want to substitute. It's not fair. [2:51:47, 2:51:55]: And it y'all need to put a stop to this because it's wrong. It's just totally wrong. Okay. Stop the clock. [2:51:58, 2:51:58]: Next question. [2:52:01, 2:52:21]: Go ahead. Robert Payne, 303 Corporate Center Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia. Mayor, Counsel, I want to let you know that I am a real estate agent. I do speak as a place of an expert. I sell$20 million a year in real estate. What you do need to know is I've got the facts right here. These are the stats I pulled today from MLS. These are the sales in the last six. [2:52:21, 2:52:26]: six months within half a mile of that. This is Lakes Bobby and the surrounding communities. [2:52:26, 2:52:41]: Right now, over the last six months, your average sale was over half a million dollars. Currently under contract, eight hundred and seventeen thousand dollars. Now I say that to say National Association of Realtors did a study, it's right here and I'll leave it for you. [2:52:41, 2:52:45]: The number three thing that affects property values down. [2:52:46, 2:52:51]: Is a high concentration of renters and apartments, only worsened by a strip club. [2:52:52, 2:52:55]: Only worsened by a strip club and a bad school. [2:52:56, 2:53:01]: So with that, with eight with with that kind of percentage, you're gonna tell these neighbors [2:53:01, 2:53:11]: that they're gonna lose a hundred thousand dollars in their home ownership. And if you don't believe me, the other agent that does just as much business as I do is sitting right over there. And he does the commun does the community just like I do. [2:53:11, 2:53:24]: On top of that, uh what you need to know is um the average ownership of these kind of developments is three to five years. We know that the first owner is not the problem. It's the second owner, when they don't live by the standards that's been promised. [2:53:25, 2:53:28]: If you go to the website for Tell Us right now, you're gonna see [2:53:28, 2:53:32]: Over half of the ones they that they're touting are not even built. They're conceptual. [2:53:33, 2:53:37]: So I'm I'm not gonna say I know their track record, but I only see conceptual drawings for the most part. [2:53:38, 2:53:41]: Also the road frontage that they're speaking about. [2:53:42, 2:53:48]: Uh if you'll look at the two partials on one thirty eight, they are only going to own the one on the far left side of your screen. [2:53:48, 2:53:56]: The one that's next to their clubhouse, that property owner does not want to sell. I tried to make contact with him and I did speak with him. He is not going to sell to them. [2:53:57, 2:54:03]: He has other plans. And which nobody else has talked about is that property has a residential dwelling. There's a home there. [2:54:04, 2:54:06]: It is currently zoned residential. [2:54:06, 2:54:08]: The neighboring property that goes between the clubhouse [2:54:09, 2:54:12]: And where they're talking about a cut on highway one thirty eight. [2:54:12, 2:54:16]: You need to know there's a home there. So you're gonna tell that homeowner he's about to be surrounded by commercial. [2:54:17, 2:54:25]: Uh on top of all that, uh they are saying at the previous meeting that their uh townhomes was gonna sell for mid-300s. [2:54:25, 2:54:32]: So you're gonna put t three hundred thousand townhomes, three hundred thousand dollar townhomes around eight hundred thousand dollar homes. It doesn't really add up. [2:54:33, 2:54:33]: Um [2:54:34, 2:54:37]: I'll leave it at that for now. Thank you. Thank you. Stop the clock, please. [2:54:49, 2:54:58]: My name is Sherry Bivens. I live at eight one seven three Masters Court, Jonesboro, Georgia, Lakes Bibe subdivision, Lakes Bibe Country Club subdivision. [2:54:59, 2:55:05]: Um, I too am a realtor and everything he said I I I I concur. [2:55:05, 2:55:06]: Um [2:55:08, 2:55:10]: With all due respect. [2:55:10, 2:55:14]: То конгресман Скот, пізнейха'спенраун северотам. [2:55:15, 2:55:16]: He doesn't live. [2:55:16, 2:55:19]: in any of those surrounding communities that are affected. [2:55:21, 2:55:23]: The gentleman that read about the city proclamation [2:55:24, 2:55:25]: being family oriented. [2:55:26, 2:55:26]: Correct. [2:55:27, 2:55:30]: That's why we moved there is because it's family oriented. [2:55:31, 2:55:40]: You made the point that those apartments were going to be one and two-bedroom, meaning single people or whatever. [2:55:40, 2:55:41]: That's not a family. [2:55:42, 2:55:46]: That's not bringing that's not family oriented. That's not bringing the families. [2:55:48, 2:55:49]: Why can't we have [2:55:50, 2:55:57]: A development I mean, like I say, I'm not naive enough to believe that that that land will not be developed. [2:55:57, 2:55:59]: But make it make sense. [2:56:00, 2:56:05]: the the development that's going on that's gonna happen on forty two with the um um [2:56:06, 2:56:13]: a fifty five and older community or w uh I'm I'm sure not sure what they call it fifty five and older assisted living. I don't think it's assisted living though. [2:56:14, 2:56:17]: Why can't i that's that would be comparable. [2:56:17, 2:56:20]: That would be comparable to what's already there. [2:56:21, 2:56:24]: And then Mr. Traylor made the the comment about [2:56:24, 2:56:25]: Um [2:56:26, 2:56:34]: They took a trailer park in Kennesaw and made it a mixed-use complex and how happy Kennesaw was. I be too. [2:56:36, 2:56:42]: I'd be happy if they took a trailer park around here and made a mix mixed complex, use a mixed mixed complex. I would. [2:56:43, 2:56:47]: But why our homes are far from a trailer park. [2:56:47, 2:56:48]: Does [2:56:50, 2:56:50]: I know. [2:56:52, 2:57:01]: Mr Alexander has several times. Point of order, point of order. There's no mentioning of anybody. It has been said. [2:57:02, 2:57:05]: Go ahead, man. That the traffic is not that cannot be [2:57:05, 2:57:07]: Considered when doing when making [2:57:08, 2:57:17]: Traffic needs to be considered. Have you driven down 75? Address me, ma'am. Has anybody driven down 75 any time of day or night? [2:57:18, 2:57:24]: How is that you're putting these apartments right here on 75? We already have a mess. [2:57:24, 2:57:30]: I have people that tell me they don't wanna come down here to visit because they don't wanna get on seventy-five. [2:57:31, 2:57:32]: It is a mess. [2:57:32, 2:57:37]: And to all the people who came and spoke from Eagles Landing and McDonough [2:57:38, 2:57:41]: Let'em put one next door to you and see how you feel. [2:57:42, 2:58:00]: You can't live in this community. So you don't have a say something. Mayor, mayor, point of order. You can't do that at a public hearing. Stamp stand by please. Relax, relax, please. Relax. [2:58:00, 2:58:03]: Ma'am, your time's up. That's fine. [2:58:03, 2:58:05]: Stop the clock, please. [2:58:05, 2:58:06]: Top the clock. [2:58:12, 2:58:13]: Come on up, please. [2:58:14, 2:58:16]: Before we get started, how much time's left on that clock? [2:58:17, 2:58:18]: Okay. [2:58:18, 2:58:20]: There you go. Name and address, please, ma'am. [2:58:20, 2:58:40]: I'm Melissa Kalandro. I am at 358 Emerald Trace, which is in the Lake Spivey community. I've also been on the HOA board there for about seven years. And so I speak not only on my behalf, but of all of the neighbors, some of which are here tonight and some of whom could not be here. [2:58:40, 2:58:52]: Opening comments that that Mr. Payne, I believe is his name, said about the land use that's already approved should be taken into consideration. In the past three months, you guys are looking at [2:58:53, 2:59:05]: proposals of three developments within a couple of miles of each other that each have over three hundred apartments. And I think that um [2:59:06, 2:59:11]: The neighbors, our community does not want this, and you guys need to hear that. Um [2:59:11, 2:59:17]: We want nourish and bloom, that'd be great. Put it in the Spivy Commons empty, you know. [2:59:18, 2:59:22]: Публік спда спеціально синдр ліс фор. [2:59:23, 2:59:29]: Um but that that's all I just wanted to say that that all of these developments together um need to be thought about. [2:59:29, 2:59:31]: Thank you. Dr. Clark. [2:59:35, 2:59:36]: How much time's left? [2:59:37, 2:59:38]: Okay, now [2:59:40, 2:59:46]: Council, there are four individuals left. Hold on, four individuals left. Sixteen seconds says ten minutes time period is up. [2:59:46, 2:59:55]: Are you gonna allow for have a little more spe hold on. Are we gonna allow to have these individuals this tweak, give this one time? Yes. [2:59:55, 3:00:00]: Mm Ma Mayor Purtain, you good? I I'm good. May Mayor Fort, may I say something? Yes, sir go ahead, please sir. [3:00:01, 3:00:08]: Uh I I was I'm in favor of them speaking for sure, but I wanna say to my colleagues [3:00:09, 3:00:28]: Even though some of these things may be out of bound, but I don't want us to get into these confrontations. So I'm just gonna suggest to my councilmate, we have a presiding offer in the mayor. Let the mayor be the presiding officer. If anyone get out of bound, just let the mayor handle. So I'm speaking to my councilmates now. [3:00:29, 3:00:31]: We are all wrong folks. [3:00:31, 3:00:36]: We don't need this. You know, we we will make a decision. [3:00:36, 3:00:39]: But I don't have a problem in hearing. [3:00:40, 3:00:45]: What you have to say and and I understand that, but we do have to make a decision. But [3:00:46, 3:00:54]: The the the the fighting, the arguments and and we just don't need that. Let's all of us just act like grown folks. [3:00:54, 3:01:07]: Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay, so what we're gonna do, we're gonna put uh temp put reset for ten minutes. Reset for ten minutes, another ten minutes. There are four individuals that are up now. Those four individuals get a chance to talk. All right, and when the time ends, it ends. All right. [3:01:08, 3:01:09]: Name and address, please say, sir. [3:01:10, 3:01:30]: Tim Kobe, 8663, North Shore Drive, Jonesboro. I'll try and be brief and in the spirit that was just proposed. Thank you guys. I'm glad I'm not sitting on that side. However, [3:01:31, 3:01:34]: A lot of people wish you weren't sitting on this side too. [3:01:36, 3:01:42]: I won't be redundant. I'll try to be simple and quick, which is unusual for me. [3:01:44, 3:01:55]: You're talking about three four hundred across the street past last week. You're talking three fifty and if we can buy this parcel. [3:01:56, 3:01:57]: You guys are already [3:01:57, 3:01:58]: Looking at [3:01:59, 3:02:17]: thousand new residents. There's a gentleman talked about, oh, we can have traffic improvement lights. We already need that. Throw another thousand out there. What do you got? Uh there are things that hadn't even been mentioned. [3:02:17, 3:02:18]: Schools. [3:02:18, 3:02:26]: Where the if if this is a family situation, which as was stated earlier, unlikely to be. [3:02:27, 3:02:29]: You're throwing this in the name [3:02:30, 3:02:30]: Um [3:02:31, 3:02:33]: Making the community greater. [3:02:33, 3:02:34]: So detractant. [3:02:35, 3:02:37]: This community including Starkbridge. [3:02:38, 3:02:50]: was and is a family-oriented community, not big time compete with Kennesaw community. It's a family community. [3:02:50, 3:03:04]: I'd like for you to consider that. You live here, you gotta deal with it. There's commercial stuff that would be welcome. It's in one of'em. Thank you. Thank you. [3:03:05, 3:03:06]: Thank you. [3:03:12, 3:03:14]: Stand by please. [3:03:28, 3:03:30]: All right. Name and address please. [3:03:30, 3:03:50]: Uh good evening. My name's Sean Folks, uh twenty-one seventy Emerald Drive, Lakes Byvie, Georgia. I'm the current president of Lakes Bivy Civic Association. I represent the five hundred homes that are half a mile down the road from this. Um if I said that they were upset about this, that would be an understatement. I rate is probably closer. [3:03:50, 3:03:51]: Um [3:03:52, 3:03:58]: The everything that Robert said and everybody else said, you know, I can echo that, but um [3:03:58, 3:04:18]: I was elected to protect the lake and the property values associated with that lake. As he said, five hundred to a million dollars is, you know, average. Um I would ask you guys to do the same and worry about the surrounding areas versus just building something there to build something. [3:04:18, 3:04:38]: Um I guess well it looks good. Uh you you just you have to take into consideration more than just that particular area right there. There's a lot, um, like they all said, there's a lot around there that this will affect. And um, you know, the lake just to the south there, half a mile. [3:04:38, 3:04:48]: mile, uh it's is n is not gonna do uh anything good for the people that have lived there their whole lives. So that's uh that's all I got. Okay, thank you. Appreciate it. [3:04:56, 3:05:04]: Name and address, please. Hello, my name is Robert Delk, and I live at 341 Fern Hill Court, Jonesboro, Georgia. [3:05:04, 3:05:08]: I am de h president of Spybi Ridge. [3:05:11, 3:05:17]: Let me tell you a little something and I'm gonna make this very short. I moved here from New York about five years ago. [3:05:17, 3:05:19]: Вочал пропози. [3:05:19, 3:05:22]: To do right now is just like New York. [3:05:23, 3:05:31]: Doesn't work for me. This is so far in my backyard, I can't pick my wallet out of my back pocket before it hits me. [3:05:32, 3:05:35]: I am literally on spyy road. [3:05:35, 3:05:39]: I'm picking up garbage already out of my car. [3:05:39, 3:05:40]: I'm off that road. [3:05:41, 3:05:47]: It's it's just going downhill and you're not helping by throwing more equations into it. [3:05:48, 3:05:49]: We don't want it. [3:05:50, 3:05:52]: With that, I'll end. [3:05:52, 3:05:52]: Thank you. [3:06:00, 3:06:11]: My name is Jane Lee, five five three Creekstone Drive, Jonesville, Georgia. I'm very simple and I'm gonna be very quick. Um I have four bullet points. I wrote'em down so I wouldn't stumble over myself. [3:06:11, 3:06:13]: I'm all for growth. I think it's great. [3:06:14, 3:06:16]: Right now when I hit the interstate [3:06:17, 3:06:22]: Near my exit, it's already backed up. I understand that you don't use traffic as a decision. Well, we live here. [3:06:23, 3:06:28]: It has to be decision. Are we gonna fly in and drop parachute down into our houses? [3:06:28, 3:06:31]: mean right now interstate the door when I'm coming [3:06:31, 3:06:35]: in from work, I clean houses, I'm all over the place. That's why I look like this. [3:06:35, 3:06:39]: Maybe twenty minutes. It looks like it's bad. It goes pretty quickly. [3:06:39, 3:06:41]: My question to y'all [3:06:41, 3:06:50]: What is an acceptable amount of time from interstate to tour door to get to your house? Is it gonna be an hour on type top of the commute time already? [3:06:50, 3:06:53]: What you tell me what isn't acceptable amount of time. [3:06:54, 3:06:58]: Spotty Dry does not set up for all that traffic. Are you gonna widen it? [3:06:59, 3:07:03]: Tell me what is an acceptable amount of time from interstate to [3:07:03, 3:07:07]: I live in Spivey Glen, tell me,'cause right now it's twenty minutes. That's acceptable. [3:07:08, 3:07:09]: Tell me. [3:07:10, 3:07:11]: Somebody. How about ten? [3:07:12, 3:07:14]: How how are you gonna make it less time? [3:07:15, 3:07:24]: For me to get from the interstate to my house where you've got I'm not sure exactly where you live and how the distance is. But anyway. The interstate to come off of [3:07:24, 3:07:28]: Seventy five, on to one thirty eight. You take her right. Sorry. [3:07:29, 3:07:43]: Then you take a left to go onto Spivey Drive. I'm right there in Spivey Glen. So all I want to know is what is an acceptable amount of time for y'all to think to go from the interstate just to the entrance of Spivey Glen, because it's gonna be just like Spear Road is now. [3:07:43, 3:07:52]: It's going to be worse than that on our road. You're not going to have. I thought, well, maybe I can go around Walt Stevens and come in, but how am I going to get to Walt Stevens? I'm going to parachute in. [3:07:54, 3:07:55]: So [3:07:55, 3:07:57]: You what's gonna happen? [3:07:57, 3:08:15]: With all this growth, you're gonna have everybody selling their houses because now they can't get in and out of'em. Then they're gonna rent them. I guess the investors are gonna buy them. You're gonna have a bigger mess. I'm very simple. I guess I'm selfish. You tell me how long do I have to wait from interstate to the house? An hour on top of a regular commute? [3:08:16, 3:08:17]: That's my concern. [3:08:18, 3:08:25]: How are you going to solve that problem? It's a problem. And that's all I've got. Thank you. But I'd like to know how you're going to solve it. [3:08:25, 3:08:26]: We'll get you an answer later. [3:08:27, 3:08:29]: You gonna get back to me later? I'll get back to you later. [3:08:30, 3:08:31]: Get back to you later, ma'am. [3:08:32, 3:08:37]: Okay, Mr. Ford, I will touch base with you in three days, so I expect to hear from you. All right. [3:08:40, 3:08:41]: I guess it's a good one. [3:08:42, 3:08:44]: That's all the comments. All right. So that ends the public hearing. [3:08:45, 3:08:46]: Yes, ma'am. [3:08:49, 3:08:53]: Yes I did. I called for that in. I've always called go I'll go from my left to the right, I'll call for this in. [3:08:55, 3:08:59]: You you sir you didn't stand up. You didn't stand up at the time. I call I called for [3:09:02, 3:09:05]: Did you sign up already since she needs come on up here and make your comments then? [3:09:13, 3:09:14]: And you s how much is left on a time? [3:09:16, 3:09:17]: All right, go ahead. [3:09:17, 3:09:18]: Name and address. [3:09:21, 3:09:22]: I'm Bruce Smith. [3:09:24, 3:09:25]: Uh stock bridge. [3:09:25, 3:09:27]: three oh two five three [3:09:28, 3:09:29]: My comment is [3:09:30, 3:09:31]: All these people here. [3:09:32, 3:09:33]: Every last one of them. [3:09:34, 3:09:35]: Have said no. [3:09:36, 3:09:39]: And it appears that uh you're gonna say yes anyway. [3:09:40, 3:09:41]: Because if you do [3:09:41, 3:09:46]: I'm gonna tell you now, you've had one council person that's been shooting real hard for this thing. [3:09:47, 3:09:54]: I'm talking to you, uh Mayor Ford. I'm not addressing anybody else. I'm addressing the council and you. [3:09:55, 3:09:58]: You have one council person that's been shooting real hard for this thing. [3:09:59, 3:09:59]: And [3:10:00, 3:10:04]: In my experience in politics in Louisiana, Illinois, and Rad here. [3:10:04, 3:10:06]: This thing smells kind of fishy. [3:10:10, 3:10:10]: All right. [3:10:14, 3:10:14]: No. [3:10:16, 3:10:19]: All of you know me. I was here before you even got up there. [3:10:20, 3:10:22]: Matter of fact, I hope some of you get up there. [3:10:23, 3:10:24]: But guess what? [3:10:24, 3:10:27]: If you approve this thing, I'm gonna do it everything in my power. [3:10:27, 3:10:30]: possible power to get you from up there. [3:10:33, 3:10:34]: No. [3:10:37, 3:10:53]: You had a council member that's around here talking and and this gentleman over here made reference to the amphitheater. M Mr. Smith. Well I I'm I'm I'm just making reference to what he said. Mr. Smith. Address me and you don't need to be. I'm addressing you, sir. Okay. I have not talked to anybody else but you. Okay. You know I love you. [3:10:53, 3:10:56]: So I'm not talking to anybody else. But the point is [3:10:58, 3:11:03]: This project is not gonna put one dime in the city of Stockbridge Revenue, just like that amphitheater. [3:11:05, 3:11:06]: It's not gonna put a dime in the city. [3:11:06, 3:11:11]: All it's gonna do is make somebody rich and I told you smells fishy. [3:11:12, 3:11:16]: And and guess what? It's gonna come out when somebody go fishing for the fish. [3:11:17, 3:11:29]: Now I strongly advise you to take this thing under consideration for your approval. Because some people, Mr. Mayor, have made up their mind already about what they're gonna do. Keep in mind now. [3:11:29, 3:11:31]: No, no, no. [3:11:33, 3:11:34]: No open air. [3:11:41, 3:11:44]: Now, Mr. Mayor, you know I don't play. [3:11:44, 3:11:50]: And I'm not making a threat and I'm not making an intimidation thing like that. But what you're about to do is wrong. [3:11:51, 3:11:52]: Extremely wrong. [3:11:52, 3:11:53]: And if you vote [3:11:53, 3:11:59]: to put this thing in in progress when you got all these taxpaying citizens right behind me. [3:11:59, 3:12:04]: Saying no, then we got a problem. Thank you for your time and believe me. [3:12:12, 3:12:23]: Okay, now the public hearing is over. Okay. Now um council, any additional comments that need to be made before we take a vote? Anybody? Go right ahead, Mr. Blount. [3:12:24, 3:12:28]: I just wanna make a comment before we go into voting. [3:12:30, 3:12:35]: Those that know me know that um I don't know how to be a politician. [3:12:35, 3:12:36]: I don't. [3:12:37, 3:12:40]: But that's my title because I'm an elected official. [3:12:41, 3:12:43]: And one of the things I don't do [3:12:44, 3:12:53]: I don't come here every day or come to City Hall or do my job as an elected official being concerned whether I'm gonna get elected again. [3:12:54, 3:13:03]: I have a beautiful wife, I have a I have a life outside of this. And at any given time when the citizens decide that they don't want a John Blount again, that's what I go to. [3:13:05, 3:13:08]: But I do try to make a sound decision on everything that I do. [3:13:09, 3:13:10]: Everything that I do. [3:13:11, 3:13:15]: I listen to citizens, I do initiatives. [3:13:15, 3:13:20]: And so I listen to you just like I listen to any other citizen. [3:13:20, 3:13:24]: And any decision I make up here, I can only speak for John Blount. [3:13:24, 3:13:37]: I make that decision because it's the decision I feel is best for the city of Stockbridge that I was elected to serve everybody. It's not one community, it's not one street, it's not my community, it's the whole entire city. [3:13:38, 3:13:50]: But I say that to say that we have to be careful when we are so provocative at times that we believe that ever any one person up here stands on the ground that this is the totality of their lives. [3:13:51, 3:13:52]: And it's not. [3:13:52, 3:13:53]: Not mine, [3:13:54, 3:13:57]: So any decision I make tonight, you determine [3:13:57, 3:14:05]: Who I am on whether I'm gonna be elected again. But I don't live to be elected. I be I live to serve. I know how to serve the citizens. [3:14:05, 3:14:09]: And so I would say that I thank you all for showing up like this. [3:14:09, 3:14:20]: Uh if any s it issue or situation come with my community, I wanna I wanna see the showing that you all are doing. I think it's a beautiful thing when citizens come together for a cause that they believe in. [3:14:20, 3:14:22]: So I thank you all for coming. [3:14:22, 3:14:24]: Okay, any other comments from the class? [3:14:28, 3:14:29]: Good evening. [3:14:29, 3:14:31]: Um [3:14:32, 3:14:49]: I heard a lot of comments on in the past whether or not we've made our decision. And I feel as if I wouldn't do my job here if I didn't research and do my due diligence first. I have literally um [3:14:50, 3:15:10]: Whether I've dissected if I could pull social security numbers, I'd will go through every single thing I can in regards to a project of this size and this manner. I think that it's important that all of my colleagues do the same. So by the time we [3:15:10, 3:15:19]: Get up here a lot of times, we do kind of sort of have our minds made up because we've done the research on it, kinda sort of. [3:15:20, 3:15:28]: Not necessarily saying we're 100%, because we do need to listen to our constituents. [3:15:29, 3:15:49]: It's been put out here for uh several uh days, several weeks, several months. And so we've had the opportunity to research and to ask those questions and to express our concerns. Um most recently there was another apartment complex unit. Um it had way more three [3:15:49, 3:16:09]: Three bedroom apartments. It had way more, and it was, you know, a little bit different to me in regards to commercial space. And right now, commercial is very important to our community. And that is because we hear the needs of you. [3:16:09, 3:16:19]: that you want a Trader Joe's, you want uh uh Whole Foods, you want these different things, and we have the opportunity to do something that is the state of the art. [3:16:20, 3:16:40]: And so that perked my interest. Um, please understand uh, you know, I don't take threats lightly. I d I really don't. And I very well have educated myself on this particular [3:16:40, 3:16:53]: project even as the ninth hour right before coming here. So I don't take it lightly at all. And yes, transportation does matter. Roads do matter. Infrastructure matters. [3:16:54, 3:16:55]: Please. [3:16:56, 3:17:07]: No, that every time I consider something, I consider the totality of everything of what I think is in the best interest of Stockbridge. I do believe that this project is a quality project. [3:17:09, 3:17:11]: It is high end. [3:17:11, 3:17:23]: The rent base, the living uh single the the townhomes are very uh I don't want to say very expensive, but they're just as high as our mortgages. [3:17:24, 3:17:30]: In the subdivisions that we live in, and I live on that side of town, I am very passionate about my community. [3:17:32, 3:17:44]: And so I say to you, whether you agree or disagree or be disappointed, that I've done everything I can to make sure that this project is within the best interest of Stockbridge. [3:17:45, 3:17:46]: That's all I have to say. [3:17:47, 3:17:55]: It's a it's uh hold on, man, you had your opportunity No, but you had your opportun ma'am, you had your opportunity to speak. Uh uh [3:17:56, 3:18:03]: Guys, security guys, you take her out of here. You had your opportunity to speak. You already had your opportunity to speak. I gave it the word. [3:18:03, 3:18:07]: See see that's what I'm saying. You're out of order. [3:18:08, 3:18:26]: You're out of order. You're out of order. You already had your opinion. Ow, ma'am, out. Ma'am I wasn't addressing her. You said that. Just stop. Stop. Just hold up. Hold up. [3:18:27, 3:18:32]: Out of here. All right. Now, Council, if you have any other questions, or comments. Ms. Barber, go ahead please. [3:18:44, 3:18:45]: Go ahead, Ms. Barber. [3:18:49, 3:18:52]: Mm-hmm. I hear you all loud and clear. [3:18:53, 3:18:53]: I do. [3:18:57, 3:18:59]: My obligation is to our city. [3:19:00, 3:19:02]: But I want to be neighborly. [3:19:03, 3:19:04]: Which is why I've [3:19:05, 3:19:08]: set up calls with some of your community members. [3:19:09, 3:19:14]: To hear your concerns, to see what it is that I can address. [3:19:14, 3:19:15]: with the developer. [3:19:17, 3:19:19]: We have a responsibility. [3:19:19, 3:19:20]: To grow our city. [3:19:21, 3:19:22]: To do nothing. [3:19:23, 3:19:24]: It's not an option. [3:19:25, 3:19:27]: I'm the newest member of this council. [3:19:29, 3:19:32]: In twenty eighteen, our city faced a unprecedented [3:19:33, 3:19:34]: Piece of legislation. [3:19:35, 3:19:37]: То террасі апарт. [3:19:38, 3:19:40]: by this proposed city of Eagles Landing. [3:19:41, 3:19:50]: What they said was they wanted high-end quality retail stores, restaurants. [3:19:51, 3:19:54]: We've been presented with a proposal. [3:19:55, 3:19:56]: What I represent. [3:19:58, 3:20:00]: Is growth. [3:20:01, 3:20:02]: No. [3:20:02, 3:20:03]: Stockbridge. [3:20:04, 3:20:05]: We have to. [3:20:07, 3:20:08]: I want to be neighborly. [3:20:09, 3:20:11]: I don't wanna be fighting with anybody. [3:20:12, 3:20:13]: This doesn't serve [3:20:14, 3:20:15]: Any of us. [3:20:16, 3:20:24]: Fighting with prop folks who live in Eagles Landing, fighting with those who live in Lake Spivey. [3:20:25, 3:20:27]: We need to make sure that we're taken care of. [3:20:28, 3:20:29]: Our city. [3:20:30, 3:20:30]: Uh [3:20:31, 3:20:32]: Constituents. [3:20:33, 3:20:34]: I've spoken with a number of them. [3:20:35, 3:20:36]: In fact. [3:20:37, 3:20:41]: Two of the individuals who were out in the community with me. [3:20:41, 3:20:45]: During that whole proposed city of Eagles Landing, they're here. [3:20:47, 3:20:50]: This is what we were knocking on doors telling people that we would do. [3:20:52, 3:20:53]: А вони deliver. [3:20:54, 3:20:55]: On every single thing. [3:20:56, 3:20:58]: That I told people that we would do. [3:20:58, 3:20:59]: During that time. [3:21:02, 3:21:03]: That's all. [3:21:04, 3:21:05]: It does not mean that [3:21:06, 3:21:07]: Any decision that I make. [3:21:08, 3:21:09]: is to [3:21:10, 3:21:10]: Um [3:21:12, 3:21:14]: Affect your property values in fact. [3:21:14, 3:21:17]: This is being presented as a luxury development. [3:21:18, 3:21:19]: It's gotta help. [3:21:20, 3:21:23]: Increase камда фур пропаті валіз. [3:21:23, 3:21:26]: Go over to comments. Calm down, please. [3:21:26, 3:21:27]: Our community. [3:21:28, 3:21:29]: Entire community. [3:21:30, 3:21:31]: Highway one hundred and thirty eight. [3:21:31, 3:21:33]: It's a major artery. [3:21:33, 3:21:34]: Of our city. [3:21:34, 3:21:35]: It is a state. [3:21:36, 3:21:36]: Highway. [3:21:37, 3:21:39]: It's not a city road. [3:21:40, 3:21:41]: It's a state highway. [3:21:42, 3:21:45]: We cannot deny a proposed development. [3:21:46, 3:21:47]: Based on a road. [3:21:48, 3:21:50]: It is our responsibility that we plan. [3:21:51, 3:21:52]: For future growth. [3:21:55, 3:21:58]: I lived off Walt Stevens for eighteen years. [3:21:59, 3:22:01]: I bought my first home in Brentwood Park. [3:22:03, 3:22:05]: I know the area very well. [3:22:08, 3:22:11]: All of those corner lots on Highway One Thirty Eight. [3:22:12, 3:22:15]: А метфоделмент. [3:22:17, 3:22:19]: Those that live in that area. [3:22:19, 3:22:22]: have had the convenience of accessing [3:22:22, 3:22:26]: How Highway 138 and I seventy five. [3:22:26, 3:22:27]: In a matter of [3:22:28, 3:22:30]: Five ten minutes. [3:22:30, 3:22:32]: Because there has been no development there. [3:22:35, 3:22:36]: You should know. [3:22:37, 3:22:38]: Еврій конер [3:22:38, 3:22:40]: Of a major highway. [3:22:41, 3:22:43]: There will be a development coming. [3:22:44, 3:22:47]: A proposal that will come to the city. [3:22:49, 3:22:51]: We cannot just not do anything. [3:22:52, 3:22:54]: That's not an option. [3:22:55, 3:22:56]: We have to grow our city. [3:22:57, 3:23:00]: That's what our responsibility and obligation is for. [3:23:01, 3:23:05]: I know many of you here are from Clayton County. [3:23:06, 3:23:09]: I know the Lake's Bible community is Clayton County. [3:23:10, 3:23:11]: Not Henry County. [3:23:12, 3:23:14]: But again, I want to be neighborly. [3:23:15, 3:23:16]: I want us to work together. [3:23:16, 3:23:17]: I don't want to fight with [3:23:18, 3:23:19]: Anybody. [3:23:20, 3:23:24]: А вона девеп і коммуніти да ви кан би про. [3:23:28, 3:23:28]: That's all. [3:23:29, 3:23:37]: All right, council, any other comments? And if not, I need a motion uh to for comprehensive plan amendment case. There's a motion. [3:23:38, 3:23:39]: Yes, sir. [3:23:39, 3:23:59]: So I'd I'd like to make a motion to approve the request uh as presented by staff with the recommendation. I would also like to add that uh we recently passed uh street lighting for the city. And I would like to add to this that we to and suggest that we in my [3:23:59, 3:24:19]: Motion that we add street lighting from I-75 all the way to this development so that there will be plenty of light uh for that development and the safety aspect will be put in place. So when people shop at this development, it would be appropriate. Well let let's how about let's let's let's let's if you let's make a motion just for this. [3:24:19, 3:24:32]: All right, let's just make a motion for approval for the development as recommended by staff. Thank you. Is there a second? Is there a second? Ms. Barber second that. Any further discussion? Yes. Further discussion. Yes. Go ahead, sir. [3:24:35, 3:24:54]: Um, one of the things I wanted to say is that when it comes to this development as the last development that came before us, and anybody that knows me know that I have uh issues with such a large rental piece in any development. [3:24:55, 3:25:15]: And because I know that the rental piece itself eventually becomes the piece that controls the community. It controls the value of the community because it becomes now supply and demand versus supply and uh and whatever level of of uh [3:25:15, 3:25:26]: of um of mortgage or whatever you're gonna pay is there. So I've always had a concern about a high rental piece when it comes to any community. [3:25:27, 3:25:30]: So I'm gonna say this before the vote is taken. [3:25:30, 3:25:33]: That I'm not going to vote for this project, I'm going to abstain. [3:25:34, 3:25:37]: All right. Any other comments before we take the vote? [3:25:37, 3:25:40]: If not, all favor of the a motion please indicate. [3:25:42, 3:25:50]: Okay, all opposed? Oh you are you four, ma'am? So it's four zero one. Motion passed. Thank you very much. Four zero one. [3:25:52, 3:25:53]: I will move on to rezoning case. [3:25:56, 3:26:00]: Resoning case, RZ 2022-04. [3:26:01, 3:26:09]: Consideration of requests for a change in the zoning for twenty-six point five total acres from uh rural residential. [3:26:10, 3:26:30]: To SR, Suburban Residential and C2 General Commercial Commercial, to PUD, Plan Unit Development to allow for a mixed use residential development application by Highway 138 Spivy Road Land Assemblance, LLC, represented by Randy Stemi, the agent. The property contains [3:26:29, 3:26:36]: contains twelve parcels of land lot forty two of District twelve as are listed below within the stock bridge city limits. [3:26:39, 3:26:59]: Parcel number 012-02013001, located on the south side of Highway 138 West, Lake Spivey Parkway across from Glen Javon Road, contains 14.1 acres, zoned RR residential, excuse me, rural residential. Parcel number 012. [3:26:59, 3:27:10]: That zero two zero zero nine zero five one located on Spivey Road South Tributary Parkway contains 7.40 acres zone SR suburban residential. [3:27:10, 3:27:30]: Parcel number 012 D0100100. Located at one excuse me, located at uh 1225 Highway 138 West of Tributary Parkway. Contains 1.444 acres. Zone C2, General Commercial. Parcel number 012 D0124. [3:27:30, 3:27:50]: 01012000 located at Southwest Corner of Tributary Parkway and Berkeley Drive contains uh zero point zero excuse me, zero point five oh one acres zone C two General Commercial. Parcel 012 D01004000 located at 1300. [3:27:50, 3:28:10]: 00 Barkley Drive between Tributary Parkway and Star Creek Drive contains 0.475 acres zone C2 General Commercial. Partial 012D01005000 located at southwest corner of Berkeley Drive and Star Creek Drive contains 0.375 acres zone [3:28:10, 3:28:30]: Zone C2 General Commercial. Parcel number 012 D01006000. Located at 1660 Star Circle. Contains 1.018 acres. Zone C2 General Commercial. Parcel number 12D. [3:28:30, 3:28:50]: Located at 1600 Star Circle contains uh 0.731 acres zone C2 General Commercial. Parcel 012 D 01008000 located at 1650 Star Circle contains 0.968 acres zone [3:28:50, 3:29:10]: Zone C2 General Commercial. Parcel number 012 D0100900, located at 1700 Star Circle, contains 1.21 Acres Zone C2 General Commercial. Parcel 012 D0101000 located in northwest corner of Bridge. [3:29:10, 3:29:30]: Berkeley Drive and Spivey Road, saying 0.737 Acres Zone C2 General Commercial. Parcel number 012D01011000. Excuse me, once again, parcel number 012D01011000. Located at the southeast corner. [3:29:29, 3:29:37]: On Berkeley Drive and Star Circle. Contain 0.799 acres, zone C2 General Commercial, presented by Mr. Ryan, please. [3:29:38, 3:29:58]: All right, thank you, Mayor. You're welcome. This proposed project meets one of the main goals of the purpose and intent of the City of Stockbridge Unit Unified Development Code, and that is encourage the most appropriate and best use of land, buildings, and other structures throughout the city. This proposal, in it in its current form, [3:29:58, 3:30:18]: meets the purpose and intent of the UDC. Also, the proposed project can serve as a catalyst for future commercial development in the city. The proposed mixed residential development with townhomes and apartments will represent an acceptable land use transition between the existing single-family detached [3:30:18, 3:30:38]: housing to the east and west, and existing retail uses along Highway 138 West and Mount Zion Parkway. The proposed project does not meet the threshold of a regional development review, and therefore the impacts from the proposed development will be considered acceptable and considerable. [3:30:38, 3:30:57]: considered a normal part of daily living in an urbanized area. However, since the proposed project will be located along a state highway, Georgia DOT and Henry County DOT will be required to be be consulted in the design of the transportation network of the development including ingress and egress. [3:30:57, 3:31:12]: The development the developer will consult with officials from Georgia DOT and Henry County DOT to d to determine whether any road improvements or traffic signalization adjustments needs to be made along Highway 138. [3:31:13, 3:31:33]: The proposed development also meets the purposes of the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. The project will feature a balanced mixture of residential densities and proposed commercial uses whereby residents can truly live, work, and play. The proposed development can be a panacea for future economic development activity in the target area. [3:31:34, 3:31:54]: The subject properties as currently zoned are less likely to be developed than in high density mixed use development due to the subject's property location on a state highway because of the Rees Creek tributary and other environmental challenges, and the current lack of pedestrian access for customers who are seeking neighborhood. [3:31:54, 3:32:06]: Retail products and services. The subject property in its current form is less likely to be developed. Only high density development would be feasible at the location because of the challenges associated with the land. [3:32:09, 3:32:29]: The res the rezoning of the subject property to PUD would allow for flexibility in design and greater use of the total site area than the current zoning. As a result, staff recommends approval with conditions. Condition number one: the project will be developed in conformance with the City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code and all. [3:32:29, 3:32:33]: other city code sections regarding site development standards and requirement. [3:32:35, 3:32:36]: The approval of the [3:32:37, 3:32:51]: Of CP twenty two dash o two to change the property's future land use designation from low density vertical to high density re high density residential shall occur simultaneously. [3:32:53, 3:33:05]: Regarding the issuance of land disturbance and building permit, no land disturbance or building permits shall be issued for the subject property until the applicant has combined the twelve parcels, which can be done administratively. [3:33:06, 3:33:06]: Das ist so. [3:33:07, 3:33:09]: Thank you sir, appreciate it. Okay. [3:33:10, 3:33:12]: Council, any questions for uh Mr. Anderson here? [3:33:13, 3:33:15]: Questions, concerns. [3:33:17, 3:33:17]: Good. [3:33:18, 3:33:34]: All right. Once again it's a public hearing. So I open it up. Okay. In reference to this rezoning case. Public hearings open up. Anybody on on this particular side or this uh side here, my left side, uh, do you have any comments for? Comments for. [3:33:35, 3:33:38]: In the middle, anybody for comments four? [3:33:38, 3:33:41]: Once again on the right side, anything comments four. [3:33:42, 3:33:49]: Okay, comments against this particular uh rezoning case on my left side, this very left side, my left side. Anybody? [3:33:50, 3:33:51]: In the middle, anybody? [3:33:53, 3:33:56]: Over to the far right side. Anybody make comments a against? [3:33:57, 3:34:00]: Okay? Come on up, sir. Reset the clock for ten minutes, please. [3:34:04, 3:34:11]: Name and address, please. Uh Mayor Council, uh Robert Payne, 303 Corporate Center Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia. [3:34:11, 3:34:12]: Mm. [3:34:13, 3:34:25]: I heard one of the council members reference that you are concerned about the um the the traffic and and I appreciate that. Um something that is not really being spoken about much here is the fact that look [3:34:26, 3:34:28]: I knew going into this something's gonna go there, it is what it is. [3:34:30, 3:34:31]: But [3:34:32, 3:34:48]: As it stands, the developer does not want to put in an entrance on the piece on the parcel on the far left that has frontage on 138. They've stated to me, and I quote, for us to put in a bridge to get over that floodplain would cost us a million dollars. [3:34:48, 3:34:51]: So the only entrance they're gonna have on one hundred thirty eight [3:34:51, 3:34:53]: is right up against the commercial. [3:34:53, 3:34:54]: So tributary. [3:34:55, 3:34:58]: So folks will have to come down and make a U turn. [3:34:59, 3:34:59]: Mm mm. [3:35:00, 3:35:01]: We all know that that means [3:35:01, 3:35:02]: The majority [3:35:03, 3:35:09]: Of the traffic is coming from I seventy five and I six seventy five is going to turn at Spivey Road. We know this. [3:35:10, 3:35:10]: I'm asking you. [3:35:11, 3:35:13]: You've got to do something about that. [3:35:13, 3:35:19]: It's that road is not built for that. And now that you guys are wanting to annex all of that, it is your responsibility now. [3:35:20, 3:35:22]: You've gotta do something about it. It's dangerous. [3:35:23, 3:35:25]: And now that you're gonna have another [3:35:25, 3:35:29]: I don't know how many, four hundred, let's say, four fifty across the street in one year, guys. [3:35:30, 3:35:34]: You're you're talking of almost a thousand new units in a year, a year and a half. [3:35:35, 3:35:40]: It's not built for it. It's highly dangerous. And cars come flying down. [3:35:41, 3:35:43]: Excuse me, flying down one hundred thirty eight. [3:35:43, 3:35:45]: I think we all know that. [3:35:45, 3:35:48]: Um I I do want to make sure that you know. [3:35:49, 3:35:53]: I've said it before and I'm gonna say it again. The the landowner [3:35:53, 3:35:58]: I was approached by the developer in this to see if I could get that landowner to sell. And I did approach that landowner. [3:35:59, 3:36:00]: They're not gonna sell. [3:36:00, 3:36:04]: Um, I quit talking to the landowner because the developer quit talking to me. [3:36:04, 3:36:05]: Okay. [3:36:05, 3:36:09]: But the landowner has no intention. They're gonna hold on to it and they're gonna find the highest and best use for it. [3:36:10, 3:36:12]: At this point, it's gonna stay like it is. [3:36:12, 3:36:19]: So you you need to know that main entrance is not going to be where you think it's going to be in that cut. It's not going to happen. [3:36:20, 3:36:20]: All right. [3:36:21, 3:36:41]: Um you also need to know, and Mayor, please let if somebody else needs to speak, just Well they've had an opportunity, so right now this uh I'll ask, but go ahead. Yeah, but if if I need to stop you, just tell me, okay, Mayor? Go ahead. Um You you need to know. I I know that we've re that uh the zoning has been done. I get it, okay? But you need to do a couple of things from here on out. [3:36:41, 3:36:41]: Yeah. [3:36:41, 3:36:44]: This developer, you gas [3:36:44, 3:36:49]: I don't want to say ignored, but you guys did not even mention the fact that your planning and zoning board. [3:36:49, 3:36:51]: Did not give support to any of this. [3:36:51, 3:36:52]: Not any of it. [3:36:53, 3:36:54]: They could not vote on it. [3:36:54, 3:36:59]: They they and nobody would motion for this. And you nobody in here brought that up. Nobody. [3:37:01, 3:37:07]: Your planning and zoning board said this is not a good idea at this point. In fact, a conversation was had in the parking lot with your planning and zoning board. [3:37:08, 3:37:09]: That said to the developer. [3:37:10, 3:37:16]: You did not garner the support you needed to get in the spivy community in the surrounding area. You need to get that support. [3:37:18, 3:37:20]: Now I'm I we all know I'm against this. [3:37:20, 3:37:24]: But I said I told the developer, I said, Look, I know something's gonna go there, I get it. [3:37:25, 3:37:28]: So how can we meet in the middle? I'll get you your support. [3:37:29, 3:37:30]: But let's talk. [3:37:31, 3:37:32]: And the developer said [3:37:32, 3:37:35]: You know, the last time we tried to talk it cost us two thousand dollars to have a meeting. [3:37:37, 3:37:39]: And I said, What if I could get you the room for free? [3:37:39, 3:37:44]: And he said, Absolutely, let's do that. I said, I'll get your people there. You guys show up, let's meet. [3:37:45, 3:37:46]: They ghosted me. [3:37:46, 3:37:51]: All right. Nobody had a meeting with me. Or our and then we got a call about [3:37:53, 3:38:04]: four or five days ago that said, uh, we can't make it down there. I tell you what, why don't you and a couple of your uh leaders drive up to the north side of Atlanta and we'll show you our renderings. [3:38:04, 3:38:08]: I don't speak for the spivy community solely. I'm just one vote. I'm one person. [3:38:09, 3:38:12]: It should not require people to have to drive to the north side of Atlanta. [3:38:12, 3:38:13]: To talk to this developer. [3:38:14, 3:38:15]: I think you guys know that. [3:38:16, 3:38:18]: We try to have a meeting with this developer. [3:38:18, 3:38:21]: I had the room set up for free and the developer ignored us. [3:38:23, 3:38:27]: Moving forward, all I'm gonna ask from from you guys is I want you to take into consideration the roads. [3:38:29, 3:38:30]: And all I'm gonna ask you as well. [3:38:31, 3:38:34]: Із вот you approve, I ask and I plead you. [3:38:35, 3:38:40]: Make sure that they sign on to those plans and those designs. [3:38:41, 3:38:44]: You you know that we've had a history, not just Stockbridge. [3:38:44, 3:38:50]: Outside of here as well, where we we agreed on some things with developers and that's not what ends up happening. [3:38:51, 3:38:54]: I plead with you, please make sure whatever you do with them. [3:38:55, 3:39:00]: Make sure that you make them sign on that video that that's what they're gonna build. [3:39:00, 3:39:04]: Because what we have seen habit of I'm not saying this developer, I'm just saying in general. [3:39:05, 3:39:06]: They get it rezoned. [3:39:07, 3:39:10]: They sell it as an option to another developer and they build something else. [3:39:11, 3:39:12]: We've seen it happen. [3:39:13, 3:39:16]: You know, that hotel was sold to you guys is a wonderful deal. [3:39:16, 3:39:17]: And look where it is now. [3:39:18, 3:39:19]: So I'll plead. [3:39:19, 3:39:27]: make sure that you make them sign onto that that that design that that's what's going to be built. Okay? And I appreciate that. No problem. Well noted. Thank you. All right. [3:39:28, 3:39:47]: Thank you. Okay, so there are no other uh individuals against. So I will close the public hearing. And uh any further discussion, counsel before we go on to vote on the rezoning case. Any other comments? Okay, I need a motion uh for uh approval of the rezoning case, please. Sir. Yes, sir. [3:39:47, 3:40:06]: Well I'd like to make a motion for approval as recommended by staff and the plan was always to have the condition included that uh the this development would be reflective of what is presented in the video and the um rendering ad adaptations that were presented to this council. [3:40:07, 3:40:12]: Is there a second emotion? No. I'm sorry. [3:40:13, 3:40:14]: I need to second the motion. [3:40:16, 3:40:17]: I do not have a second emotion. [3:40:18, 3:40:22]: Uh mayor pro temp second emotion. Ms. Barber, you have a do you have a comment? [3:40:22, 3:40:23]: Sure. [3:40:25, 3:40:29]: M hold on, Miss Barber, you have a discussion here? Yeah, discussion. Go right in. [3:40:29, 3:40:49]: Um I wanted to ask in um Councilman Alexander, he mentioned about uh site plans specific as those plans were submitted. But I wanted to also add in addition, any modifications to the slight site plans must be reviewed by staff and brought back to us. [3:40:50, 3:40:52]: For approval. [3:40:53, 3:40:55]: Somewhat a normal process anyway. No. [3:40:56, 3:41:05]: It it shouldn't come back to us. It should the staff should review it. Staff should review it and they've got the city manager you can you can have to approve it. But I want it to be approved. Any modifications. [3:41:05, 3:41:12]: Come on. Not only to be reviewed by staff, but I want it to come back to Council. St stand by, stand by. Ms. Ms. Carter. [3:41:12, 3:41:27]: Uh yes, so all plans that come in before they're approved to be issued a permit do have to be approved by community development. That includes our civil engineer, our building official, our zoning, planning and zoning staff, um, and our fire marshal. So [3:41:27, 3:41:35]: Typically plans do not have to come back to the city council as long as they meet the conditions of zoning for the particular use. [3:41:37, 3:41:43]: Okay. Um Mayor Ford. Yes ma'am. I want to be clear. [3:41:45, 3:41:47]: Any modifications? [3:41:47, 3:41:48]: Whether it be [3:41:49, 3:41:53]: them changing building materials or [3:41:53, 3:41:57]: Not putting shrubbery in a certain area. [3:41:58, 3:42:01]: I not only want staff to review it. [3:42:01, 3:42:05]: I wanted to come back to this council for us to review it as well. [3:42:07, 3:42:10]: I well okay, uh I agree. [3:42:10, 3:42:11]: I do agree with that. [3:42:11, 3:42:31]: I I agree. I want site specific. Um, and I believe that's the term that we were utilized and we had discussions about it before that if there are any changes, anything that's amended, it has to be brought back forth to Mayor and Council. I would prefer it that way, but I also wanted to discuss I didn't know. [3:42:31, 3:42:36]: um that our planning and zoning board denied this. [3:42:36, 3:42:47]: that wasn't discussed. We normally have we just had a meeting any other time, the planning you guys come up and present to us and you let us know. [3:42:48, 3:42:48]: That [3:42:49, 3:42:56]: It's recommended approval by the staff. And then it'll t you'll tell us about the planning and zoning. That didn't happen this time. [3:42:56, 3:42:58]: So it doesn't need to happen again. [3:43:00, 3:43:02]: I have a problem with that. [3:43:02, 3:43:03]: Well, [3:43:04, 3:43:24]: If you're gonna say something, come to the mic. Ms. Carter, go ahead if you want to say something here. So we did state the recommendation. It is on the agenda and in the documents we provided to the city council that was submitted last week. Um but as it pertains to the request to have a condition to require the plans that come [3:43:24, 3:43:28]: come back if modified, that that can be added as as a zoning condition at the will of the council. [3:43:29, 3:43:34]: That seem okay seems to be the will of the council. I'm agreeable to that. [3:43:34, 3:43:40]: All right, so otherwise you will want to now amend my motion your motion to add that in. Yes. [3:43:41, 3:43:54]: Re restate it please, sir. I want to am I want to m uh recommend approval and amend the motion to include the recommendations made by Councilwoman Barber to bring uh those modifications back to the city council. [3:43:55, 3:44:01]: I don't know if Miss Barber wants to you want to second that motion now. Is that Mayor Protein, you good with that? [3:44:01, 3:44:02]: Yeah. [3:44:02, 3:44:05]: Okay, all right. Ms. Barber seconds the motion. All right, further discussion. [3:44:05, 3:44:25]: Yes, ma'am. Go right here, please. One second. Go ahead, please. No, no, go ahead. Um, after looking at this, I want to apologize. You did state that the staff recommends, but I do not hear, I did not hear anything about the planning and zoning board did not approve of this. Um I do uh and I've stated this before. [3:44:25, 3:44:39]: that if the planning and zoning board didn't approve, they're a board that we appointed, I would like to hear from a representative. Maybe we need to make that part of a policy or we can look into that. Have one of them come here and let us know why. [3:44:40, 3:44:43]: That planning and zoning board did not approve. [3:44:44, 3:44:45]: This project [3:44:45, 3:44:49]: We appointed our constituents on a board. [3:44:50, 3:45:10]: To oversee that, we got their opinions of it. And although we have the professional opinions of our of our employees here, we still should consider why did they not approve a project. That's that's something I want to consider in the future. But in regards to this, I'm I'm in agreement with Councilwoman Barber and I'm I'm ready to vote and move forward. So I'm [3:45:10, 3:45:16]: My apologies for that, but it was not stated in regards to what the planning is zoning was not. [3:45:16, 3:45:18]: Mr Blanc, go ahead, please. [3:45:18, 3:45:32]: Yeah, uh and this is also for you, Madam Clerk, uh if you can make documentation that um one of the things I wanted to do uh today was to get some questions answered that I had uh that I needed to have answered. [3:45:32, 3:45:35]: And I was um, you know, due to [3:45:36, 3:45:50]: unforeseen circumstances with staff, I wasn't able to get those things answered. So I couldn't d that's that's the premises of my abstention uh today. Uh and so I just wanted that to be put in the record if you don't mind. [3:45:51, 3:45:51]: Thank you. [3:45:51, 3:46:01]: All right, motions are made and amended and seconded if from Alexander to Councilwoman Barber uh for approval. All favor, please indicate. [3:46:03, 3:46:05]: Can you all oppose? Abstain. [3:46:06, 3:46:13]: Mayor, I'm gonna approve and uh and I would like to see uh I would like to approve and and make a motion. [3:46:13, 3:46:22]: Yes, I'd like to approve. Okay, it's approved. All right. All all five of you approved that. Okay. So But I would I would also like this council, I'd like to make a motion that [3:46:22, 3:46:24]: Because we're doing it for this project. [3:46:25, 3:46:30]: I would like to make a motion that w going forward that we we keep this policy in place. [3:46:30, 3:46:40]: Uh with the policy of of the the adjustment of the Yeah, the any any modifications or changes. Okay I think that's a good uh Well I don't know if well maybe I don't know if you're really emotion. I think we have an under. [3:46:41, 3:46:43]: I think we have an understanding that [3:46:43, 3:47:03]: The the process, I think Miss Carter mentioned that the process would would we change and would add that in there. I believe that's what you said earlier. Right. For this particular case. Okay, this case. Um what we can do is look at look at the UDC again to see what verbiage we have um and make sure that we we include that. We'd have to bring that formally to you all to make that a a amendment. [3:47:03, 3:47:04]: Amen. [3:47:04, 3:47:11]: So is that acceptable first of motion that w whatever happened, whatever needs to happen to put that in place, I think it's a safe [3:47:11, 3:47:31]: Uh i this council did just need has to be informed on what's actually going on and not be blindsided by anything or or when it comes to development or anything pertaining to the city. I just like if there's any changes or modifications, I think it'd be good to the council do know because if there's something that comes from the uh public, from citizens to us, we're aware on how to answer. [3:47:31, 3:47:41]: answer those questions how to direct those citizens, but we can't do that if we're not aware of what those changes are. Uh i if you would [3:47:42, 3:48:02]: A motion has been made, it's been second, but it's been some conversation. Can can we clarify the motion and then I'd see no more. But you're talking about the first one passed, sir. You're talking about the second one that Mr. Blount made, you mean? The first one passed. Okay, so that's passing. Yeah, that passed unanimously. It's another motion. Well he wanted to put a motion on. I didn't know if it's really necessary to do that, but if you want to put a motion on there and do this [3:48:02, 3:48:22]: because conversation if if the second and you want to prove it so be it but you need clarification what the motion is that what you're asking for okay let me let me make sure I hear okay the motion that Mr. Blonde is making make sure that we're clear on that. I just want to let me let me make something clear also. And I'm making a motion because I don't ever want to feel like I'm giving a direct [3:48:22, 3:48:22]: Yeah. [3:48:23, 3:48:31]: If this council approves of a of something, I w I make a motion to do it and it's collectively done. That's the only reason I'm making a motion. I can't tell you that's what I want. [3:48:32, 3:48:34]: Not no one council member should be able to do that. [3:48:35, 3:48:37]: And that's why I'm making a motion that we're in agreement. [3:48:38, 3:48:41]: that going forward any any of the modifications to any [3:48:42, 3:49:02]: thing that's contractual for development that is brought to this council, any modifications that is presented to this council. And that's the only reason I'm point of order. And that's the motion. Yeah. Point of order. What's your point of order, sir? That will require an amended amended to amendment to the agenda to add that item. We've already voted. Well no, your your your your vote, your the vision [3:49:02, 3:49:13]: Right, but in order to add this item to the m agenda, you need you need to add it to the agenda. It's not only the agenda. [3:49:14, 3:49:15]: Mm-hmm. [3:49:15, 3:49:16]: You sit there. [3:49:18, 3:49:23]: Well we needs a lower input. We'll st we'll stand by a second. Mr. Gardner, you're you're coming up. [3:49:26, 3:49:46]: Um, real quick, I think um putting that requirement on every single development would slow development down beyond belief. I think we use this tool only when we know that it's been a contentious issue and if people want to see what actually goes there, goes there. But if we brought every development through this process, [3:49:46, 3:50:06]: As soon as we see something that oh, that something we can't we could negotiate with the the applicant through the pro regular administrative process, y'all have a bunch of stuff on y'all agenda coming as things ratchet up in the city and everything would have to come to you if they do any slight modification. That that's [3:50:06, 3:50:22]: That's not effec efficient. M Mr. Garner, and I and I and I and I I I would have to concur with you to a certain extent, but as you know that we we've had a development that was outside of what uh [3:50:23, 3:50:35]: I don't wanna get too deep into that, but uh w w um I I I I don't wanna come in uh I d because I get out of line, I don't I don't wanna go into that. But but we have to make sure that's that uh um [3:50:35, 3:50:55]: Staff modifications aren't to a point because you have the right to do something is so far out of out of uh out of line of what the council uh is expecting. That's the what I'm trying to prevent. However, we can modify that itself, uh, I think that it should be done. And I agree. Uh don't tell me they putting six brushes, uh six instead of [3:50:55, 3:51:15]: And so I I agree with that. There's not every single modification. So I however you can uh get the verbiage for what I'm trying to say without it being an overbound step, uh I would pull my motion back or or uh until and and you could bring something to us. However we can modify that. Is that uh is that uh [3:51:15, 3:51:29]: Sound like something you can do, Mr. Garner? You you want us to bring back language? Well what I'm what I'm saying is I don't want the I don't want the language to be that you bringing back every single little item to hold up any kind of development. [3:51:30, 3:51:41]: Uh I tell you what, I'm gonna hold it off until we talk uh privately and and and because um it's some issues that I need to let let you know that happen that we need to try to prevent. [3:51:41, 3:52:01]: Okay. So you're withdrawing this motion now. Is that what it is? Well uh yes. Okay, so all right, so for this particular project, you got to march in orders, Ms. Carter, Mr. Ms. Gardner, and reference this particular project. And then the motion's already passed and from from uh and amended with uh uh Mr. Alexander. So and so additional conversation to be a [3:52:01, 3:52:21]: With the city manager in reference to some additional items potentially here. So I understand. Okay, so we're gonna move on. I guess you're released to go sit down now. All right. All right. Now um so that passed. All right. What we have next is uh our recom uh recombination, a plaque case, RC, uh RC. [3:52:21, 3:52:26]: I think I was removed from the agenda. [3:52:27, 3:52:39]: Oh that's right. I'm sorry. No council that's right, you sure did. Thanks excuse me, you're right, you cancel Okay. All right, then we're on a new business then. Uh council consideration to appoint a member of the citywide development authority presented by Mr. Washington. [3:52:52, 3:52:55]: That's right. Okay, that's right. Good point. [3:52:55, 3:53:03]: Hi good evening, Mayor and Council. This is just to appoint Gadston Herndon Woodall the third to the application [3:53:04, 3:53:09]: Calm down folks. We got a meeting going on. Go ahead. Go ahead, Ms. Watson. To the development authority. [3:53:10, 3:53:16]: Downtown Development Authority. And you also have the application under point fourteen in the book notebook. [3:53:18, 3:53:29]: So we have we have one individual that's is is asked has application forward to be added to the city wide uh the citywide development authority. And uh and that individual I for I forgot his name. [3:53:30, 3:53:41]: Gatson Herndon Woodall the third. Okay. So is this something typically I mean is this something we need to take an executor session aside, talk about and then come back out, or is this something you all just want to go ahead and approve at this point? [3:53:41, 3:53:46]: Uh sir, if I could ask you questions. So this is there's one position available and there's one applicant. [3:53:47, 3:54:05]: Yes I'm sorry. So there's nobody else and the owner is the owner of Serafinos. I believe I looked at Eric. Is that correct? That's correct. Yes. Okay, they own the restaurant over on Eagles Landing Parkway in the public school. I know where it is. I got it. I I just think we should go ahead and move on. We have anything? I I would just go ahead and do it. What do y'all think? [3:54:05, 3:54:08]: Okay, one applicant, one position, one applicant. [3:54:08, 3:54:15]: All right. I don't know. So is there a motion to accept this individual at this point or just something discussion we want to talk on the second session first? [3:54:17, 3:54:20]: I may I may imagine to make some motion then, sure. [3:54:22, 3:54:33]: Okay. I'll go ahead and make the motion to move forward with the item recommended. Miss the clerk, uh the information has been vetted. Uh Ms. the clerk, you vetted the information, correct? [3:54:38, 3:54:40]: Okay. All right. Thank you. I make the motion to approve. [3:54:41, 3:54:42]: And what's the next [3:54:42, 3:54:45]: Gatson, Mr. Quentin. [3:54:45, 3:54:48]: Gatson would all the third to the citywide development authority. [3:54:50, 3:54:51]: There are seconds in the motion. [3:54:53, 3:54:55]: Is there a second to the motion? [3:54:56, 3:55:00]: Ms. Barber seconds the motion. Okay. Any further discussion? [3:55:03, 3:55:07]: You said that's seraphfinos, correct? Right. Seraphino's. [3:55:08, 3:55:10]: Which is in the public's complex. [3:55:13, 3:55:17]: Motion has been made in a second. Any further discussion? All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:55:18, 3:55:19]: Two? [3:55:19, 3:55:20]: Three. All posed? [3:55:21, 3:55:34]: I abstain, I'm not familiar with of okay abstain? Absame to me, maybe uh we usually do this behind closed. That's why I asked the question. But anyway, three zero two, the motion passed. Three zero two, the motion passes. If y'all want to go in a congratulations. [3:55:35, 3:55:52]: Next item, Council consideration approved the renewal of the landscape maintenance services contract with Yellowstone Landscape in the amount of three three hundred twenty-six thousand dollars nine hundred and sixteen. And funding source is of is from the government building department, amphitheater, and police department budget funds. Mr. Aaron, please. [3:55:53, 3:55:55]: Yes, um Mr. Mayor and Council. [3:55:55, 3:56:15]: Coming for you tonight asking for renewal of the landscaping contract with Yellowstone. They have been very responsive, done an excellent job maintaining the city's facilities. This will be the first renewal under the contract. They've been with us for approximately one year. Like I said, they've done an excellent job and always. [3:56:15, 3:56:25]: Been responsible whenever we had some additional requests that keep the sites looking good. So we're asking Mayor and Council to approve the contract renewal. [3:56:25, 3:56:44]: Okay. Thank you. Any questions, Council for uh Mr. Aaron? Yes. For answer. Now Mr. Aaron, I know Yellowstone's responsible for this general area here. Now we had a conversation a couple of weeks ago about this work getting restarted. Tell me how's that gonna work and are they gonna be maintaining it and when is this work gonna get started out here? [3:56:45, 3:57:05]: For East Atlanta Road Widening? Yes. We had a meeting with uh George Power. They're supposed to be, there was an agreement we signed. They're supposed to be within the next two to three weeks, they'll be mobilizing to start work on removing the uh lights and things on East Atlanta and South and North Lee Street so that we can restart the program. [3:57:05, 3:57:25]: The project. Okay, we had that discussion two or three weeks ago. No, sir. We had a well, we had a meeting with George Power a week ago. Okay, all right. Okay. I thought it was a little earlier than that. So we should expect somebody to be out here. Is Yellowstone gonna be maintaining it? Is so who's gonna be maintaining it during this work? They still gonna [3:57:25, 3:57:45]: Yes, sir. The area is cut and maintained over there. One of things over there is really the uh silk fencing, but the site is still being maintained. I'm just saying during the con I mean during the it's g it a lot of times it's o it's not being maintained, it's not being kept. There's weeds and stuff in there. Who's gonna do that to make sure? [3:57:44, 3:57:49]: The site across the street. [3:57:49, 3:58:06]: Are you talking about on East Atlanta where they're where they started where they started the construction? Yes. That's not a part of Yellowstone, but staff public works is maintaining that area. We go in and and cut it. But that's not part of Yellowstone. Okay, that's not a part. So we need to [3:58:07, 3:58:09]: Up that a little bit'cause we just not getting that. [3:58:09, 3:58:10]: Well [3:58:11, 3:58:23]: When we initially before they we had the construction, there was a streetscape there that was being maintained, but the streetscape is no longer there because of the construction to widen the road and add the turning lane. All right, thank you. [3:58:24, 3:58:25]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:58:26, 3:58:39]: Mr. Dacius, uh I I just wanna say, you know, a lot of times we, you know, this council we're progressive and we we kind of come down on a lot of st stuff that we see. But I wanna say that uh I've got a couple of calls from citizens within the last [3:58:40, 3:59:00]: the week and a half and some things that uh was tasked for you all to do. Uh they said that you guys jumped right on. They was very pleased. So we I want to thank you for that. And definitely appreciate you guys public works doing what you guys are hired to do. My concern is uh with this uh contract renewal, there's two areas that I'm concerned about. [3:59:00, 3:59:00]: Yeah. [3:59:01, 3:59:06]: Uh one is over the where the old fountain is, is that I know the construction has stopped, but [3:59:06, 3:59:22]: I mean it's becoming an eyesore. Who who's gonna be in in in control of at least at least cutting that foliage that's growing up over there kinda wild until they start construction back up? And the second area is gonna be right here on East Atlanta Road. Uh those Craig Murders are growing up into the wires over there. [3:59:23, 3:59:43]: Well, um I try I try to follow the guidelines that the arborists give us as far as cutting and trimming and things like that. That's part of the contract that they do have a landscape architect and a arborist and I try to follow the recommendation that they provide for trimming those crate myrtles. So So they they like the they like it in the [3:59:43, 3:59:56]: In the uh my understanding in the conversation when we initially met with men is that they trim typically do the trimming in the fall. They're not done during the growing season. That was the information that was provided to us. [3:59:56, 3:59:58]: Now now you you you know we [3:59:59, 4:00:08]: But fa Paul is kinda right here coming, you know. Yeah,'cause it it th they're growing up into the wires what uh my concern is that [4:00:09, 4:00:29]: That the uh Craig Murder's growing into the wires on East Atlanta and then what what about over there by the do they want you to wait on the fall or that one too? Sir, I I'm just trying to follow professional advice. So Well it's not the arbers, I'm talking about the other part. Is is Yellowstone gonna be doing that or our part of works? We have we [4:00:29, 4:00:34]: We have a schedule. They'll present us with a schedule when they'll come out and trim and mow and things of that sort. [4:00:35, 4:00:46]: Well, I'm not talking about the quake murders now,'cause you I I'm clear. I'm talking about a fountain, that that foliage where they stopped the construction is really growing up over there. I'll have staff ad address that. All right, thanks. [4:00:47, 4:00:51]: Any other questions for Mr. Aaron? Mayor Ford. Yes, sir, go ahead, please. [4:00:51, 4:01:04]: Uh just just for understanding, uh Mr. Aaron, and I know with this contract and it's listed all of the sites, but when you just finished talking about trimming [4:01:05, 4:01:14]: The trees, just for my understanding and clarification, we're only talking about the trimming that's identified at these sites. [4:01:15, 4:01:35]: Correct. Nothing outside of no sir. Each each facility has their own schedule of maintenance of what is performed at those sites. From it goes from the the the banner poles to the monuments to the city buildings, all of [4:01:35, 4:01:43]: That has a schedule. So any other sites or any other trimming, that's a whole different conversation. All right. Thank you. Yes. [4:01:44, 4:02:04]: Ms. uh grant do you have some questions? Um no I wanted a motion. Stand by standby standby. Miss Barber go ahead. Sharon I wanted to ask, is this vendor responsible for maintaining the upkeep of amphitheater grounds? Yes, ma'am. Amphitheater is separately, separate, but they maintain that as well. [4:02:04, 4:02:05]: Yeah. [4:02:05, 4:02:11]: It's a separate contract? It's it's a separate budget account for the amphitheater maintenance. [4:02:12, 4:02:15]: But the same contractor does all of the city facilities. [4:02:16, 4:02:17]: Okay. [4:02:18, 4:02:26]: Um okay. I have some concerns that I want to express. I'll discuss with you at another time. Thank you. [4:02:27, 4:02:28]: Ms Gan, go ahead, please. [4:02:28, 4:02:37]: All right, Mirror would like to make a motion to approve the Yellowstone landscape in the amount of three hundred and twenty-six thousand nine hundred and sixteen dollars. [4:02:38, 4:02:43]: There are seconds to the motion. That was you, Mr. Blount. Mr. Blount motion and okay. All in favor, please indicate. [4:02:45, 4:02:49]: Oh p you abstain? I'll p you abstain as well? [4:02:50, 4:02:51]: Okay, well, mayor. [4:02:52, 4:02:55]: Yes, ma'am. I might need after I thought about it, I [4:02:55, 4:02:56]: Um [4:02:57, 4:02:58]: Councilman Alexander's not here. [4:02:59, 4:03:05]: Well yeah, I've I would like to w is he coming in? I I would like to um because I'd I would like to [4:03:08, 4:03:13]: I I'll I'll keep it. I'll keep the contract l as is. I mean I'll keep my vote as is. [4:03:13, 4:03:25]: Uh there's a question. If if if we don't do this tonight, then we don't have a landscape, right? He's not. You're correct. Right. So we don't have a choice. [4:03:26, 4:03:27]: Do you have a choice? [4:03:27, 4:03:37]: Well it i this this contract expires September twenty eighth, I thought. Twenty eighth. So it will expire before the next meeting. Yes. [4:03:37, 4:03:38]: Um [4:03:39, 4:03:40]: Mr. Aaron. [4:03:41, 4:03:45]: I do believe the council approved a new policy. [4:03:46, 4:03:47]: For contracts. [4:03:48, 4:03:50]: You are to bring them to the council. [4:03:51, 4:03:54]: А худан твенти дається прийдуть the expiration date. [4:03:55, 4:03:56]: We know l [4:03:56, 4:03:57]: I will no longer. [4:03:58, 4:03:59]: Make a decision. [4:03:59, 4:04:00]: On a contract. [4:04:01, 4:04:06]: That is nearing the expiration. You give this council. [4:04:06, 4:04:07]: No choice. [4:04:08, 4:04:09]: But to approve it. [4:04:09, 4:04:12]: Otherwise we'll have a lapse in service. [4:04:14, 4:04:17]: I'll say no more. Let me let me let me answer that. [4:04:19, 4:04:29]: Uh, Councilman Barber, legal takes full responsibility because of the anti-lide notice that we've received concerning this. And we had reservations about being able to go forward on this, so we pulled it. [4:04:32, 4:04:32]: Okay. [4:04:34, 4:04:36]: So now we can go forward. [4:04:39, 4:04:43]: I would like to discuss that in executive session. Okay. Well Mayor, I would like to withdraw my motion. [4:04:45, 4:04:46]: Okay, motion's been withdrawn. [4:04:47, 4:05:02]: All right, so um obviously it seemed like this is a zeko session discussion. We may ver we may possibly come out as echo session and make a decision on that mo note, if that's the case. Otherwise, we may be in a sit well we'll s find out. We'll find out. Okay. [4:05:03, 4:05:19]: Mr. Aaron, you may need to have to stay around a little longer here in this aspect uh to uh potentially uh readdress this uh council here. Okay? On that note, um we're we're gonna I guess in a sense we'll take the executive session on that note. But anyway, so uh yes sir. [4:05:20, 4:05:22]: If you if it's counsel wish. [4:05:23, 4:05:24]: Yeah, management can take the note. [4:05:28, 4:05:48]: Alright, well I'll tell you what, I'll discuss that with the city manager. All right, we'll do that. Alright, we'll discuss the city manager, see what he wants to do then. Excuse me. All right, no problem. All right, so um my comments. And my comments are these. Um and it's very I mean, I've been doing this for well over two two and a half years. It deals with, of course, uh the pandemic. We're still in a pandemic to a certain degree here. Uh so once [4:05:48, 4:06:08]: Once again, COVID 19 still exists. There were some variants of a virus there. Once again, Henry County uh health department located at 135 Henry Parkway administers Pfizer and Mederma on uh Monday to Friday, nine AM to eleven thirty PM or one PM to two thirty PM. You can call ahead and make a schedule at four seven zero six six four [4:06:08, 4:06:28]: Once again, 470-664-0005. As well as you can go almost anywhere in the Atlanta metro area, City Stobries, wherever Henry County, and get yourself an actual vaccination, as well as a testing in this aspect for COVID-19. But it is free testing. [4:06:28, 4:06:48]: Destiny at the Red Hawk field, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. It's located on Henry Parkway as well, Madonna. It's Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. to do that. And we want you to be safe. So noted that the CDC recommends that everybody should get a second booster. If you had a booster, first booster, get a second booster. [4:06:48, 4:07:08]: And uh Johnson Johnson booster as well, if you if you need to do that. And uh the thing of it is is that these boosters are probably routine things that come every every f every year like the flu shot. So we'll see how it goes and see what C D C recommends. And a monkeypox, um if if you're concerned about monkeypox, there's an availability [4:07:08, 4:07:28]: to get a shot to be be uh prepared for that as well. But there are uh un unfortunately individuals in Georgia and Henry County that have have the monkeypox. I don't have the numbers right now, but that does exist and people are getting affected. Not very many, but people are getting affected. I want to turn to another another sombre, another moat uh vote, uh excuse me, another issue that's somewhat somber and that's the [4:07:28, 4:07:48]: 9-11 uh remembrance ceremony that occurred yesterday is our city has an annual event to doing this, remembering the 3,000 plus civilians and public service individuals and military that sacrificed their lives on an attack on the United States uh 21 years ago yesterday. And um so [4:07:48, 4:08:08]: So we gotta continue to keep them in our thoughts and prayers, those families, and let us know that freedom doesn't is not free without sacrifice. And all those individuals have perished. We gotta just make sure we never forget about what uh what they actually sacrificed into for our country in this aspect as well. And I want to thank the and unfortunately I I personally wasn't [4:08:08, 4:08:28]: Wasn't uh available uh for remember ceremony yesterday. So I want to thank Chief Trammer for being involved in that process. Um uh Bishop Breyer, I was involved in that. Our Henry County Sheriff, Reginald Scandard, thank you, sir, for being involved in that process yesterday as well. Um and I believe I saw Representative Holly. [4:08:28, 4:08:48]: And came by to be part of the process, as well as a Stockbridge, our junior RLTC from Stockbridge High School. And I believe Miss Barber was present for that as well. So thank you for being present in that aspect. And so we just make sure that we keep those families and never forget about their sacrifice. [4:08:47, 4:09:07]: On that note, I would move on uh to announcements and um upcoming meeting notes and events. Uh so uh the U Council meeting, 530, second Wednesday of each month, uh City Hall and Levi Meeting Room uh September 14th, Downtown Development Authority meeting at 6 p.m. [4:09:07, 4:09:27]: By way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, September 20th. U Council Visory Committee meeting, 6 30, second Tuesday of each month, Levi Meeting Room in City Hall, September 20th, that is. Planning Commission meeting fourth Thursday at 6:30 p.m. in the city hall council chambers, September 22nd. [4:09:27, 4:09:47]: session meeting Tuesday at 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers September 27th. City Council meeting second Monday of each month, City Council uh Chambers, which is October 10th. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. and the City Hall Levi Meeting Room as October 14th. And um [4:09:49, 4:10:09]: Upcoming the events, uh we got a c of course a continuous salute to veterans. Very appropriate as of the nine eleven was yesterday. Please uh forward pictures of veterans, including name, branch, rank, years of service as Mayor Pro Tem Thomas presents a special tribute to our local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Rosalind Rawls at R. Rawls at the city of Stop Rage Dad. [4:10:09, 4:10:29]: And of course, thank you for your continued service. Join uh please join Councilwoman Barber for a free Zuma on every Saturday morning at Clark Park. 8 a.m. Come out for a fitness in the park. Main Street will host a movie on the city lawn featuring Spider-Man and the fun, we believe it's 7 p.m. So bringing up. [4:10:29, 4:10:34]: bring a lawn chair some blankets. A revised date has yet to be announced, but it's coming soon. [4:10:34, 4:10:54]: And by the way, British Fest is back September 24th. Are you ready for a day filled with family fun and great festive atmosphere, delicious food trucks and entertainment? Headline featuring Parliament Funkadelic. And uh but besides that, you're gonna have uh Climax, Derek Smith, and the city band also performing. [4:10:54, 4:11:14]: And actually the uh everything starts at 2 p.m. on Saturday, September 24th, the Starbury's Amphitheater and a lot of food and delicious food trucks and entertainment, right? And uh from 2 p.m. to 11 p.m. And so uh there'll be entertainment uh all through the afternoon and early evening. Contact our event staff of vendor information. [4:11:14, 4:11:34]: At 770-389-5982. Look forward to a wonderful Saturday. Hopefully it'll be good weather. An opportunity to meet the mayor and voice your questions and concerns on Monday, September 27th, 10 a.m. to noon, in person in my office. There, contact Ros and Rawls to schedule an appointment. [4:11:34, 4:11:54]: At 770-389-7900, extension 248. And a stop bridge will have host this in-person annexation town hall meeting Thursday, September 29th, 6:30, at the Monarch Village Clubhouse at 240 Monarch Village Way. And uh course is a stop bridge. Come out and learn the facts about the annexation referendum. [4:11:54, 4:12:00]: Neighborhoods in the proposed area benefits of Stockbridge annexation and proposed council districts. [4:12:00, 4:12:10]: And upcoming concerts. You got T I and Waka Flacca and them d uh them franchise boys this Friday at uh September sixteenth. [4:12:11, 4:12:14]: And the gates open at five, the concert starts at seven. [4:12:15, 4:12:35]: And we've got a Hispanic Fest coming up and it's a joint effort with the city. It's October first, Saturday, uh two PM to eleven PM, the event bright at thirty-five dollars to enter into the Hispanic Fest. And then we have Charlie Wilson on Friday, October 14th, and the gates open at six and concert starts at eight. [4:12:35, 4:12:38]: And I'm pretty sure those tickets are going fast, to see Uncle Charlie. [4:12:38, 4:12:40]: And then we have Key Sweat. [4:12:41, 4:12:56]: on the twenty ninth of October, Saturday twenty-ninth, and gates open at six PM, concerts at eight. And we have a redo, a rescheduled concert, Rick Springfield, October thirtieth, on a Sunday. At gates open at four, concert starts at six PM. [4:12:56, 4:13:02]: All right, and so on that note, ladies and gentlemen, I need a motion to go into this echo session, please. [4:13:04, 4:13:14]: We have a motion, I need a motion and indicate uh for litigation personnel. For real estate litigation and personnel. Okay, thank you for the motion. Uh Mr. Blender, you wanna second that? [4:13:14, 4:13:20]: Yes. Thank you very much. All in fair please indicate? Thank you. We'll be back, ladies and gentlemen. We'll go into Zycos. Thank you. [4:13:27, 4:13:43]: I'd like a motion to end our executive session, please. So moved. Is there a second? Mr. Uh Blount seconded that and uh Ms. Gantt uh made that motion. All favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. I'd like a motion to reconvene our council meeting, please. So moved. Okay. [4:13:43, 4:14:03]: Okay, Mr. Blount, second that the motion all favor, please indicate. And from that um from that actual uh second session, I have here back to item number fifteen. Council consideration to approve the renewal of the landscape maintenance services contract with Yellowstone landscape in amount of three hundred twenty-six thousand dollars, nine hundred and sixteen funding source from government. [4:14:03, 4:14:20]: Government buildings, uh Department of Amphitheater, and Police Department budgeted funds. And this is originally presented by Mr. Aaron. So I need a motion now, Council, to accept this proposal. So moved. Is there a second? Mayor Ford. Sir. Did did we decide to table that or did we? [4:14:21, 4:14:31]: D no my understand. We we we decided to go move move forward and and and have a motion to from Miss Gantt to Mr. Blount. Okay, all favor please indicate. [4:14:32, 4:14:33]: I abstain. [4:14:34, 4:14:37]: Okay. All right with the motion uh motion fails then. [4:14:37, 4:14:41]: So it's two uh two for and zero against and one abstained. [4:14:42, 4:14:42]: Huh? [4:14:42, 4:14:43]: Well. [4:14:43, 4:14:45]: Can can I come in? Well, sure, you can comment. [4:14:48, 4:14:51]: I want to choose my words. Okay. [4:14:52, 4:14:52]: Right. [4:14:57, 4:15:00]: I re I really can't comment. Um [4:15:06, 4:15:06]: Oh. [4:15:08, 4:15:10]: I will withdraw my abstention. Okay. [4:15:12, 4:15:21]: The motion still can't pass. If I if I vote no. The motion won't pass. Mo mo motion won't pass. Cause I can't I personally can't vote unless it's two two tie. So motion won't pass. [4:15:21, 4:15:24]: So are you saying that we have to have them [4:15:25, 4:15:29]: We have to have the majority of the quorum to vote. Well, we have a quorum. [4:15:29, 4:15:42]: All right. And we can let to the attorney again for in reference to this uh on the prevailing s on the prevailing side is going to be much more reconsideration. Some out of the prevailing side has to want to reconsider. [4:15:43, 4:15:45]: Well let me ask you this. [4:15:49, 4:15:53]: If it's a two voted yes and one abstain, then it fails. [4:15:55, 4:15:57]: Why? [4:15:58, 4:16:02]: You need three to vote in affirmative even though the other council members aren't here. [4:16:03, 4:16:08]: That's pretty charged, I think. [4:16:08, 4:16:13]: Okay. So I like to make a motion to reconsider the vote. [4:16:14, 4:16:19]: All right. Okay, motion it's made and seconded. All in favor of the motion to reconsider. [4:16:21, 4:16:30]: Well uh why I well uh what y I got two. Are you voting yeah yes or I I uh abstained initially [4:16:30, 4:16:36]: So I'm not sure if I'm in the affirmative to be able to even vote on this reconsideration. [4:16:37, 4:16:40]: So Miss Gantt, what what is what is your intention? [4:16:41, 4:16:44]: Ве, анту деніт. [4:16:44, 4:16:49]: You do not want to deny it. Um I think that [4:16:51, 4:17:08]: what we've understood based off of uh the discussions we don't have anyone doing the service. That we don't have anyone doing the service and that we i it's not uh you know, that it's okay to continue that service. And it expires this contract expires over this month. [4:17:09, 4:17:12]: Yes. So we don't have it's pretty much we [4:17:16, 4:17:18]: There was no no um. [4:17:19, 4:17:36]: Yeah, right. You have become a now so I'm my uh uh Mr Washington, my my understanding for reconsidering if this reconsideration motion was made and so it uh there we have a quorum and so it takes uh to reconsider it takes two or does it take three to reconsider the motion. [4:17:37, 4:17:38]: Okay. [4:17:39, 4:17:42]: Uh y'all put me in a bad situation. [4:17:42, 4:17:46]: And I'll I'll just say this and then I'm I'll change my vote. [4:17:48, 4:17:53]: Okay, so I'm let me just say this now. I I raised some issues as you all know. [4:17:53, 4:17:55]: Uh before [4:17:55, 4:18:00]: And and that's sort of my reasoning. Um [4:18:01, 4:18:06]: I I can't elaborate on what I mentioned before. Okay. [4:18:06, 4:18:07]: Um [4:18:09, 4:18:12]: But I do understand and I do recognize that we do need [4:18:13, 4:18:33]: The services. Right. And that's why I think, you know, it should have been brought before now. Okay. And I think we could have dealt with it. But see now at this late date it's sort of we're in sort of a predicament because after this month and we don't have anyone doing the services, then so sort of where are we? And then we got to put [4:18:33, 4:18:34]: Put this back out. [4:18:34, 4:18:43]: So just based on that then I'll just go ahead and and vote in the affirmative. Okay, well let's see. So we have reconsider. So first of all reconsider, vote for reconsideration. [4:18:44, 4:18:45]: Vote for reconsideration. [4:18:46, 4:18:49]: Mm-hmm. The motion was made May second, so vote for reconsideration. [4:18:49, 4:19:09]: All in favor? Okay. All in favor. Got three votes. Now the motion is to accept this make a motion to accept this particular uh proposal uh for three hundred twenty nine thousand and uh what is it? Nine hundred s I've got now I gotta find the right thing again. What what is it what is it? [4:19:09, 4:19:10]: [15551.4, 15555.0]: Okay, right. Okay for for that's dealing with Yellowstone. [4:19:15, 4:19:16]: And you made a mo you wanna make a motion again? [4:19:17, 4:19:24]: I made a motion to approve that. Okay. And there's a second. Mr. Blount second. All in favor, please indicate. [4:19:24, 4:19:31]: Okay, now the motion passed. Okay, now on that note, great. And on that, now I need a motion to adjourn our council meeting. So moved. So second. [4:19:32, 4:19:35]: All favor, please indicate. Aye. Good night, everybody. We're opposed.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2022-08-30 source: 2022-08-30_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: Alright, okay. [0:00:13, 0:00:22]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna start our uh work session this evening. I have six oh three. It's Tuesday, August 30th, and I'm on call to meeting to order. [0:00:23, 0:00:31]: Invocation tonight will be done by Miss Armenta Jones. Miss Jones, please come forward and give us invocation. And ladies and gentlemen, if you can, please stand. [0:00:44, 0:00:45]: And there's just one. [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Nice city. [0:01:17, 0:01:19]: Amen. Thank you. [0:01:21, 0:01:33]: To the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which stands one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:35, 0:01:37]: Madam Clerk Rocall, please. [0:01:44, 0:01:44]: Present. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: President [0:01:49, 0:01:49]: Present. [0:01:51, 0:01:51]: Present. [0:01:53, 0:01:53]: Right. [0:01:54, 0:01:55]: Present. [0:01:56, 0:02:00]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:02:01, 0:02:07]: So moved. All right, is there a second? Second. Thank you very much. All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:08, 0:02:26]: All right, you now decision all night. So please review the minutes. You have the council meeting draft minutes from July eleventh and also the d uh work session draft minutes from July twenty sixth. Uh so review those and we'll approve those at our next council meeting, which is set for the September twelfth. Madam Clerk, any uh public comments tonight? [0:02:27, 0:02:37]: Okay, fantastic. And then we'll go on to presentation. So FY twenty twenty one audit report presented by Ms. Hope Pendergrass from Malden and Jenkins. [0:02:38, 0:02:39]: Good evening to you. [0:02:45, 0:02:48]: Good evening. How are y'all doing? Oh we're fine. [0:02:48, 0:02:53]: Um, I don't know, did you wanna pull up the attachments that were with the agenda or [0:02:54, 0:02:58]: No. Uh yes we can say it right. Okay. [0:03:04, 0:03:07]: Or if you could pull them up here, I can drive. [0:03:13, 0:03:16]: You want me to do them here? Okay. [0:03:23, 0:03:32]: No, I I didn't do a PowerPoint since we were gonna be in person. I didn't know what the setup was gonna be, so I was just gonna go through the um [0:03:32, 0:03:35]: Briefly through the attachments. [0:03:50, 0:03:51]: Yeah. [0:03:53, 0:04:04]: Oh yeah, sure. We can go ahead and go over it. So I don't know if um y'all have had an opportunity to look at the documents that were attached to the agenda in advance, but I'll give you a kind of the um [0:04:05, 0:04:10]: three to five minute condensed version and then I'll be happy to entertain any questions that you have. [0:04:10, 0:04:11]: Um [0:04:11, 0:04:30]: Th the the most important thing that I want to point out is that you all did receive what's called an unmodified opinion. That's a clean opinion. That's the best that you can get. So cadul congratulations on that. And that pretty much just indicates that it through our audit we ascertained that you all's um financial statements were materially correct. [0:04:31, 0:04:39]: So um kudos to management and the board for supporting their endeavors in in in having such a a clean set of books for us to audit. [0:04:39, 0:04:59]: Um also one of the things that's new for this year that's reflected in your audit is the outstanding bonds, which you all issued bonds through the PFA to do some of your projects like this nice amphitheater that I had not had a chance to see yet. That's nice. Um and then some of the other things that you did. Um you still remain in a strong cash position. [0:05:00, 0:05:20]: Um, you know, in previous years when I come to speak to you all, you had in excess as far as your fund balance and reserves, in excess of more than one year of operations, which was even more um interesting considering the fact that you all do not have property tax. So it's not very many communities that we go to that have such a strong [0:05:20, 0:05:39]: position considering the fact that you don't have property tax. But that has been diminished somewhat. You're still right around a whole year's worth of operations and reserves. But some of that did get diminished because you used that to invest in your facilities. So that was that was kind of expected, I guess you could say. [0:05:39, 0:05:59]: Um, we did um also take the opportunity this year to um move the activities of the Merlmanders Conference Center and the Ted Strickland Community Center into the general fund. So now that'll show up as a department to just better reflect um those operations because in the past the general fund was having [0:05:59, 0:06:10]: having to kind of subsidize those operations and I believe now you're not even you the Ted Strickland Center is um no longer something that you're renting out, correct? It'll be turned into the wealth [0:06:11, 0:06:12]: Okay. [0:06:12, 0:06:15]: So we just moved that activity into the general fund. [0:06:16, 0:06:19]: Um, okay, let's go through now that we have this pulled up. [0:06:21, 0:06:22]: Just go through this briefly. [0:06:23, 0:06:31]: What I've already kind of skipped over. We got this um outerge discussion and analysis just gives you a little background and kind of a summary level on the report. [0:06:33, 0:06:42]: So I'm gonna skip down to some of the the the graphs here. So this will see like your revenues and where they came from. So the majority of [0:06:42, 0:06:44]: Um your revenues. [0:06:44, 0:06:51]: do come through things like franchise taxes, other taxes, um some transfers in. [0:06:51, 0:07:00]: And then you know your expenditures, your biggest part of your expenditures this year was transfers out because you were moving some money over to do some of your capital projects. [0:07:01, 0:07:03]: And then your general government is gonna be like your [0:07:04, 0:07:09]: um council, your administrative functions, your finance function, all of that. [0:07:09, 0:07:13]: And then public works would be the next biggest piece. So [0:07:14, 0:07:20]: Um as far as like a trend analysis here, this just kind of shows where your revenues and your expenditures were. [0:07:21, 0:07:36]: um from a five year history. You know, the green is kind of your revenues, which were kind of outpacing your expenditures. And in the past two years y'all have had more expenditures as you've used some of your fund balance that you'd accumulated on some of your um other endeavors and initiatives. [0:07:39, 0:07:45]: And then you this is kind of a history of your fund balance. Um, this is your change in fund balance. So [0:07:45, 0:08:05]: Um, going back to 2017, you had about$2.6 million that you added to fund balance, and then this past year you used about a million dollars. So that's kind of how that analysis works. And then as you can see, as I alluded to earlier, this is kind of your historical fund balance in comparison to your annual expenditure. [0:08:05, 0:08:25]: So going back to 17, you had about 18.6 million in fund balance, but you only had about 7.6 in expenditures. And if you remember during that time, that was around the time that you were you were kind of in a position where you weren't really sure what the future was going to bring. So you were kind of holding on to some of your resources, trying to [0:08:25, 0:08:42]: So that you were in a good position going forward. And then after um you kind of had a path forward, then you started doing some of your initiatives and that fund balance has been decreasing some as your expenditures and your transfers out are increasing. So that's diverging a little bit more than it had in the past. [0:08:45, 0:09:00]: Um and this is just kind of an analysis. I feel like I've included this every year, but like going back to two thousand seventeen, you had over two hundred percent in reserves as compared to your annual expenditures. And then this past year, like I said, you only had about a hundred percent, which again [0:09:00, 0:09:20]: A lot of the communities that we work with, you know, might only have five or six weeks of reserve or two or three months of reserves. So y'all are in an excellent position having a whole year's own reserves. And remember, this is a twelve as of twelve thirty-one-21. So we haven't had an opportunity to look and see what's happened in the past eight months. So it could be [0:09:20, 0:09:24]: I'm not really sure where y'all are at this point. Um [0:09:29, 0:09:38]: And then we talk a little bit about some of your smaller funds, your special revenue funds. As far as your business type funds, you know, now we're pretty much left with your water fund, which is your biggest fund. [0:09:39, 0:09:48]: And then you have storm water and um solid waste. And so we've kinda gone into a little bit of a discussion here on that. Those funds are doing well. [0:09:49, 0:09:51]: Um you have positive cash flows. [0:09:52, 0:09:54]: From operations [0:09:54, 0:10:03]: And that's what you wanna see in a business type, enterprise type activity that you're you know, you have positive cash flows, you're bringing in more money than you're sending out. So [0:10:07, 0:10:20]: Um the footnotes that are in here, I always tell people that's good beside the table reading if you can't fall asleep. Um but the footnotes are included in your financial report to support the numbers and just give you a little bit more information. [0:10:22, 0:10:26]: Skipping down to some of our rep recommendations. [0:10:27, 0:10:27]: Um [0:10:29, 0:10:36]: We did have a couple of findings. These relate to the way things were recorded in the general ledger. It doesn't have anything to do with um [0:10:37, 0:10:52]: You know, we didn't really see anything that we thought was something going on that was that was significantly wrong. It's just anytime we have to make an audit adjustment, we have to report it. So these items have been discussed with management and I feel like they are easily um remedied in the coming year. [0:10:53, 0:11:05]: And as in prior years, we had a couple of recommendations. These aren't things that have elevated to the level of a finding, but just things that we recommend that can be improved as far as policies and processes going forward. [0:11:05, 0:11:18]: And then the last little section here just talks about some of the upcoming GASBY standards. GASBY is the regulatory entity that regulates and provides guidance on how you account for government finances, and they are very busy. [0:11:18, 0:11:34]: Um and so they are always kind of changing how things um might need to be reported. And so we always try to include in our communication information about those upcoming changes so that management and the board can consider those as they make decisions going forward. [0:11:34, 0:11:48]: So that's just kind of a high level um synopsis of the audit from last year and I'll be happy to entertain any questions that anyone has. Well we'll appreciate the briefing here. Uh would imagine like for me, I guess the bottom line is we're in good financial standing. [0:11:48, 0:11:53]: Yes, sir. Okay, I appreciate that. Thank you. Questions? Sir. Go ahead, Mr. Alexander. [0:11:53, 0:12:13]: Yes, thank you for the excellent report. You know, I just want to take a snapshot and say kudos to everybody up here and understanding that fiscally this city is sound, solid as a rock. So the things that I want to uh go over, I saw I was looking at that, and uh we received the American Rescue Plan for [0:12:13, 0:12:33]: So talk about the the fund balances in these various accounts. I want the citizens to actually hear what these balances are so they can understand uh that what what makes this city so financially sound. So which particular fund do you want to do that? Well the total fund balance, the water sewer fund. [0:12:33, 0:12:48]: Fund balance, those kind of things, how to kind of hit those stormware, those things that with the various band balances, enterprise fund, that kind of thing. So folks understand it's just not one area that the city is strong in. It's really across the board. Yeah. Okay. [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: Pardon me for a moment while I get to that spot. [0:12:54, 0:13:01]: Thank you. Um the general fund is the one that I was mainly talking about as far as your fund balance and the general fund is kind of the heartbeat fund. [0:13:01, 0:13:16]: of the any particular governmental organization. The other funds are normally earmock funds for specific projects, you know, have SPLOSS funds that can only be used for funds that are approved by the voters or you have a hotel motel fund that [0:13:16, 0:13:27]: you know, those funds can only be used for a specific purpose. Whereas your general fund is, like I said, it's kind of the heartbeat as far as that's the fund that most of your activity is gonna flow through. [0:13:29, 0:13:32]: So the general fund, like I said, um [0:13:35, 0:13:40]: It had about thirteen point five million I'm gonna see if I can make this a little bit bigger. [0:13:43, 0:13:48]: Okay, so on this page you have all the different funds and um [0:13:51, 0:14:11]: You'll see that your cash balance there in the general fund is about$13.5 million. And then you had some franchise taxes that were receivable of about$1.9. So that makes up the majority of your liquid assets. And then if you scroll down here, your total fund balance is in the general fund, which some of that was already earmarked for projects that you had already. [0:14:11, 0:14:18]: already kind of had purchase orders for. Um but you had a total fund balance at twelve thirty one of sixteen million. [0:14:18, 0:14:38]: So Okay, that's what I want to hit on right there, because I want to hit on the high points for the citizens to understand. Now you made some very poignant um uh d uh discussions or uh points in the uh discussion that you were moving forward. Now you do how many sit how many cities do you all audit here in the state of [0:14:38, 0:14:40]: Um [0:14:42, 0:14:52]: In the state of Georgia, we're probably up to at least a hundred and twenty five cities. We audit over six hundred and fifty governmental entities throughout the southeast. That's twelve offices in five states. [0:14:52, 0:14:58]: How how many of them would you say have a hundred or ninety nine percent fund balance? [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: Not very many. [0:15:02, 0:15:22]: Right. So that the the it's it's definitely a good thing to point out. I mean, I I would say less than a handful. Um most of'em, as I said before, um have six weeks, three, four months. Six months would be an outlier, twelve months is definitely the exception. Yeah, because I think with Georgia Manure [0:15:22, 0:15:26]: municipal association they indicate and I think Henry County has this policy too. [0:15:26, 0:15:34]: That their target is a twenty five or thirty percent fund balance. That's a good number. So if you're sitting at ninety nine or a hundred. [0:15:34, 0:15:54]: Let's everybody understand that is way over what the uh threshold is. And sometimes I would argue that the city could have spent more money in upkeep, and that's what this board has endeavored to do, to spend more money into the things that the citizens want, like the amphitheater, the culture arts center, uh, the various improvements in the city. So the money has been well spent. [0:15:54, 0:16:01]: Spent. Now there was another category that we received nine million plus dollars in American Rescue Plan funds. Is that correct? [0:16:01, 0:16:20]: Yes, sir. I do want to go back to the general fund if I may, just a moment. Is that okay? Okay, sure. Um, so one thing that you do wanna consider here when you're looking at fund balance is you have two point two million dollars of assets held for resale. Now, if if you remember back a few years ago, y'all had some assets that were transferred to the D DA and then they came back. [0:16:21, 0:16:41]: Um, so some of your fund balance is tied up in property. Another thing to point out is you have almost eight million that was already obligated out for like y'all had already signed had purchase orders for that at twelve thirty-one. So you had about five point eight million dollars that was really like this is the liquid that we could spend on other things. [0:16:41, 0:16:42]: [1003.0, 1003.8]: Um [0:16:44, 0:17:04]: We haven't already said we're gonna s like determine how we're gonna spend that. So when you think about five point eight million as compared to annual expenditures or ten point five, that ninety nine does go down a little bit. Right. Interestingly you say that because I think uh the treasurer keeps a month to month balance. Is that right, Mr Mr. Wiggins? [0:17:04, 0:17:07]: That's correct. And what's that month to month balance as current with? [0:17:07, 0:17:11]: Right now the fund balance is at uh about thirteen million. [0:17:11, 0:17:31]: Okay. So we're moving printing as we're spending and we're going along, we're moving along, we're investing in what we got going on. So pretty much that number has pretty much it's still above maybe uh at a very good point and s certain significantly above the twenty five percent threshold, which I think some of that would be a good point. [0:17:31, 0:17:51]: And as you said, there's many cities out there that might have, you know, two or three months. And I'm my own personal philosophy pretty much is listen, it's not our job to put the citizens bank and the money in the bank. And and to I'm not that's not our job. Our job is to make those make that work. And if there's a over situation where that money is being spent [0:17:51, 0:18:03]: then certainly there would be to need to be returned to the taxpayers because it's their money. It's not our job to keep it in the bank. That's a point personal point of privilege for myself as I go along with that. [0:18:03, 0:18:23]: Another thing to consider too is this information you'll see this says balance sheet as of twelve thirty one twenty one. This is good for one day in time. So like the next day you got more money and you spent more money. So this these numbers will change every day. We just only audit them as we pick a day and y'all have picked 1231. When you're pointing out and talking about other cities too. [0:18:23, 0:18:29]: Two, you know, y'all are in the unique position that you're you're twelve thirty one year in, which [0:18:29, 0:18:33]: The majority of governments in Georgia are a six thirty year in. [0:18:33, 0:18:42]: Um and so if you think about the life cycle of property taxes, which y'all don't have property taxes, but as residents of Henry County you're paying property taxes. [0:18:43, 0:19:00]: When do property tax bills go out? They go out September, October time frame, right? So at June 30th, your usual city is at its leanest time of year. So when they only have two or three months worth of fund balance, it's also at their leanest time of year. You although [0:19:00, 0:19:05]: W you don't have property tax, so you don't really have that cyclical part to it. [0:19:06, 0:19:17]: Other than, you know, you have some franchise taxpayers that might only pay once a year, that's a a large amount. Your insurance premium tax only comes in once a year. So there is some cyclical [0:19:18, 0:19:27]: Um, it's not like your revenue comes in all even all twelve months, kinda like your expenditures somewhat are even all twelve months. You do have some special things that [0:19:27, 0:19:33]: that come in during the year. So it's important to remember that this is one day in time and that when you're comparing [0:19:34, 0:19:40]: city to city to city, you also have to consider their year ends and what they have going on. So [0:19:41, 0:19:42]: Um [0:19:42, 0:19:47]: You wanna talk about the ARPA fund? The different funds that that's Okay. Yeah. [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: So um [0:19:49, 0:20:09]: You got a significant um it's not a grant. They they keep saying it's not a grant, but funding under ARPA that's called the coronavirus state and local fiscal recovery fund. Um that is recorded here in this separate fund. You got about five million dollars in 2021, and then have y'all gotten the other five [0:20:09, 0:20:11]: Five million dollars. [0:20:11, 0:20:13]: Okay, so you got um two [0:20:14, 0:20:17]: buckets of money, I guess. They went ahead and and [0:20:17, 0:20:33]: And that was the amount that y'all earn based on your population. And so as of twelve thirty one, the majority of that had not been spent. And so if you if you go over here to the income statement, y'all had only spent about one point three million. So [0:20:33, 0:20:51]: Yeah, we we we we start we we have a police department now, so it really came in in handy. So yeah. And and I think that was what it was intended to do was to provide an influx of cash to a lot of entities that maybe had some projects or some initiatives that they had been putting off. [0:20:51, 0:20:52]: Um [0:20:52, 0:21:06]: And then you have your public facilities authority. So that was the includes the proceeds of the bonds that you issued. You know, most of all the bonds were issued at the same time, but you're doing the projects in kind of a sequential order. So that money is there, that's the bond proceeds. [0:21:07, 0:21:12]: Um and then you have SWAS five, which is the special purpose local options sales tax fund. [0:21:13, 0:21:16]: Um and so that's the cash that was on hand. [0:21:16, 0:21:36]: for that. And then you have your citywide capital projects fund, which is where you actually incur your expense to do some of those projects that you've um been wanting to do. And then the the next column is an aggregate column and that includes some of your other SPOSS funds that aren't in the current collection phase that y'all still had money. [0:21:37, 0:21:46]: Um as of twelve thirty one left to be spent and then things like the hotel motel fund, which that pretty much everything that comes in goes out. [0:21:47, 0:22:03]: Did that adequately address your question? Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate that. And I guess next year, Mr Wiggins, we'll have a line for T Splots, which and millions more will be coming in. Do you have a balance on what the T Splots have been taken in? Or or what has been taken in monthly? [0:22:03, 0:22:18]: Right now we've gotten statements in, but uh we still are dealing with truest on trying to establish a count number, which that's gonna happen in uh uh in a week or two. But right now our funds are over a million for T Swatch right here. So it's coming. [0:22:18, 0:22:23]: Okay. Over a million or this was over a million right now. Okay. Thank you. [0:22:23, 0:22:24]: Any other questions? [0:22:27, 0:22:33]: All right. Thank you, Miss Pendergrass. Appreciate that. Yes, sir. Thank y'all so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:22:33, 0:22:38]: All right, what next is Masters uh Parks Masters Plan Update. Uh Heather Hubble. [0:22:48, 0:23:02]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh tonight TSW will be g providing an update on the city's parks master plan. This has been an ongoing project for approximately about six months, so it's time to get an update on where we are with the plan. [0:23:03, 0:23:04]: All right. Thank you very much. [0:23:08, 0:23:08]: Mm-hmm. [0:23:10, 0:23:17]: Yes. Give us a sec, we're gonna pull up our presentation. While while Beverly's doing that, um [0:23:17, 0:23:37]: Good evening. So good to be back here in person, uh finally. Um I'm Brian Baze with TSW. This is uh Beverly Bell, uh the project manager for the project. Heather Hubble's here uh as well. Um we've uh as as Desh just uh mentioned, we've been working hard. [0:23:37, 0:23:51]: uh for the past six months, uh doing diligence for the project and really pulling together all the information analysis that that we need to to get to the next steps of the project. [0:23:51, 0:24:11]: Um and I'm gonna talk a little bit about the agenda. So we have a writ there's a lot of information here. We only have about 15 minutes to actually cover this portion of it. And then obviously we're gonna have questions and answers uh after that if we need to go back to an area uh and uh deep dive in it. Uh glad to do that. Um [0:24:11, 0:24:31]: We're gonna talk about the just a brief on the project background. We're gonna talk a little bit about what we heard from the public, uh, both uh at uh some pop-up events we had, uh some surveys that we did, um, and then we've also had some. [0:24:31, 0:24:51]: Some small group meetings as well. And then we also are gonna talk a little bit about our analysis, but most importantly, the start item on here, programming opportunities, is what we really wanna get into, which is where we've kind of outlined some opportunities at the existing parks. [0:24:51, 0:25:05]: uh which I know everybody's eager to kind of hear about. And then also uh we've uh we're gonna talk a little bit about um what is needed for some new parks uh and how much parkland uh is gonna be needed. So [0:25:07, 0:25:10]: And I'm gonna let Beverly dive in here. [0:25:10, 0:25:17]: Yep, again, I'm Beverly. Thank you for having us tonight to talk about the project. I'm gonna start off with the project background. [0:25:18, 0:25:27]: So, for an introduction of what this project is about, we are analyzing the parks, park facilities, and trails owned and maintained by the City of Stockbridge. [0:25:27, 0:25:39]: We are creating a park sister system plan for the next 10 years to accommodate the growing population. We are accounting for annexation in our numbers of population for this report. [0:25:39, 0:25:54]: We are creating conceptual designs for existing parks and potential new parks discovered during this process that we need in Stockbridge. And we will be creating an implementation plan and operations and maintenance plan to ensure that these are this is a buildable plan. [0:25:57, 0:26:14]: So there are currently six city parks in Stockbridge. You have Clark Community Park, Gardner Park, Memorial Park, Municipal Park, Reeves Creek Trail and Trailhead, and Unity Monument Park. The circles generally show the areas where these parks are concentrated on this map. [0:26:19, 0:26:39]: There are also nearby Henry County parks that are outside of the scope of this project, but we feel it's important to take note. JP Moseley Park, Cochrane Park, Mickey D. Cochrane Park, and Pates Nature Preserve. So the total acreage of all these parks is 214 acres. As you'll see in a few slides, we've done some calculations. [0:26:39, 0:26:52]: on where gaps in service are. We accounted for these, this acreage and those numbers, but just want to make note that as a part of this study, we won't be making any changes or recommendations to county parks, only city parks. [0:26:52, 0:26:53]: Good. [0:26:55, 0:27:00]: So next we're gonna look at the gaps in service that we've been taking a look at. [0:27:01, 0:27:21]: Starting with national benchmarks. So we looked at all this all the parkland and the park elements within each park and compared that to the national averages of other parks, park agencies in similar size communities. Um and we found that typically for an agency of this size. [0:27:21, 0:27:41]: It would have, according to national averages, 9.8 acres per thousand residents. And Stockbridge currently has 1.2 acres of parkland. So it is below the national averages. And then in terms of park elements, all the sports fields categories such as basketball courts or playgrounds or tennis courts. [0:27:41, 0:27:49]: Those are below the median. Dog parks are right at that median, and above the median are amphitheaters. [0:27:49, 0:27:50]: Okay. [0:27:50, 0:27:51]: Okay. [0:27:55, 0:28:15]: Some more statistics we saw were that 10% of Stockbridge residents live within a 10-minute walk of a park, and that park can be of any size versus 55% of the national median, and only 1% of Stockbridge land area is used for parks and recreation versus 15% of the national median. [0:28:15, 0:28:22]: So through all these calculations are showing that there is a gap that we need to fill currently as we move forward with this plan. [0:28:25, 0:28:45]: We also looked at access. We looked at both driving access and then also walking access. So we we as a part of our uh our research and public input, we did a survey and that indicated that residents would travel 10 to 20 minutes to a larger park or a unique experience. Um and then as you're looking, as this [0:28:45, 0:28:56]: map that we created with data, we the orange colors that shows five minute walking routes, the like dark orange, and that shows the gradient up to the 20 minute walk. [0:28:57, 0:29:15]: And then the purple shows the dark purple five minute drive to parks up to the lighter purple, which is fifteen to twenty-minute drive. So you can see that a five-minute drive covers most of the city and almost all of Stockbridge is served by parks within a 15-20 minute drive. [0:29:16, 0:29:26]: So as we get into walking, that's really where we need to start thinking about how we can provide more access since driving is pretty well, well covered. [0:29:26, 0:29:43]: And so yeah, the five, ten, twenty minute walks illustrate that parks are not walkable to most residents in Stockbridge. Um and if that we wanna th start thinking about proposed trails to increase um this, but also new parks and areas so that people are able to walk to more parks. [0:29:52, 0:30:00]: And so as we start to think about, you know, that there are these gaps, that we need more parkland in Stockbridge, um, some numbers that we've calculated. [0:30:01, 0:30:21]: Is that today if we're looking at just the current population and also including that we're looking at both city parks and county parkland, since they're your citizens are using both, um, the city currently needs thirty acres of new parkland. If we consider the annexed population today, we would need ninety-six acres, and we would need [0:30:21, 0:30:40]: 6.28 miles of new trails. In 10 years, which is the what we're thinking about with this plan, if we're considering the annex population, we would need 149 additional acres. And that can be that can be broken up into different areas. That doesn't mean one big park, it can be several smaller sized parks of various sizes. [0:30:42, 0:31:02]: So, some future considerations for the new park plan. We're looking at where the parks are clustered right now. The center of the city is very well served right now. That's where the majority of that five-minute walking radius is. And we want to start looking at how better more connections can be made between parks, schools, and other destinations in the city. And then also [0:31:02, 0:31:09]: thinking about how possibly school grounds could fill gaps of um for apt active recreation. [0:31:13, 0:31:33]: There's a lot of different there's these c classifications of the sizes of parks. Um we've looked at each of the existing parks and where they fit into the these categories. There's some mini parks, that's the municipal park, uni park, gardener, clark and memorial, those fall into neighborhood parks, and really where we're starting to see the [0:31:33, 0:31:53]: The gaps here are with the community park size, which is 20 to 75 acres, the regional park size 50 to 250, and also some gaps with the natural resource areas that can vary. Those are areas with natural, historic, or cultural resources. So as we're starting to think about the new parks, we're starting to think about the sizes. [0:31:53, 0:31:58]: Um how much acreage and then also the type of park and how in the areas of town. [0:31:58, 0:32:01]: that um we could create better connections. [0:32:04, 0:32:24]: We want to briefly highlight the public outreach that we've done so far and what we've heard. So far, we've had multiple steering committee meetings, we've had stakeholder interviews, we've had a public kickoff meeting, we had an amazing uh pop-up event at Tasty Tuesday in July. We had great turnout, a ton of feedback. Um then [0:32:24, 0:32:33]: We've also had two online activities to complement those in-person activities, and then a statistically valid survey that we kept open for several months. [0:32:35, 0:32:42]: Overview of what we've heard, the big ideas are Clark Community Park is the most popular park. That's because of [0:32:42, 0:32:54]: There's events that go on there, there's event great event space, um, the size of it, there's a a lot of different activities, there's playgrounds there. Um some of the reasons we've heard that are [0:32:54, 0:32:56]: that inhibit park use are [0:32:56, 0:33:04]: There's just not the features that people want to use there. They don't feel safe at the parks or trails, or they're just not aware of that park and trail location. [0:33:05, 0:33:07]: Some of the things that people want to see. [0:33:07, 0:33:21]: are walking trails both within the park and connecting parks, public arts, sports courts, community gardens, an aquatic center, splash pad, restroom, security improvements, and educational signage. [0:33:24, 0:33:29]: So next we're gonna jump into programming opportunities for each of the individual parks. [0:33:30, 0:33:49]: And this up these opportunities, this is a combination of what uh synthesis of what we've heard from the public, um, our analysis, what we've seen um based on some of those gaps that I described earlier, and also just our um outlook on each of the parts individually. [0:33:50, 0:34:10]: It's important to know this isn't necessarily a list of everything that we're saying should go in the park. This is a comprehensive list of things that could go in the park. And one of the things that that we're kind of looking for is a little bit of feedback on uh you know either things that are non-starters. [0:34:10, 0:34:16]: that are on this list or things that are, you know, you know, really high on the on the kind of want or need list. [0:34:18, 0:34:38]: So for Clark Community Park, adding pickleball and tennis gall court tennis ball court, tennis courts, uh splash pad, and we know that there's a splash pad already proposed in this location nearby. Um we've heard that there's some uh we had some discussion about that not too long ago. I'm I'm talking. I got it. [0:34:38, 0:34:58]: Discussion about it not too long ago, and I think the consensus of the council is that we want a splash plan, but the location that you originally thought was not the right location right outside the amphitheater as a general consensus and recommendation, one of the recommendations anyway was potentially Clark Park in that aspect as well. But uh, I mean the council's here, they hear that, so they can. [0:34:58, 0:35:18]: Can expound on that if they like, but uh that is that is uh the the last consensus that I I observed in this aspect. Okay. Yep. So we've thought we've made some recommendations on a couple of these other parks, so we think it would also be helpful and we'd love to get your input on that. Right. Um educational signage, uh restoring the stream, rebuilding the bridges. [0:35:18, 0:35:38]: Adding lighting along the trails, assessing drainage and improving stormwater through the park, improving the playground components, adding public park, resurfacing that parking lot, improving the pedestrian connections to Gardner Park and the surrounding area, improving the dog park, adding a community garden, and adding a variety of [0:35:37, 0:35:39]: of pavilion sizes. [0:35:40, 0:35:46]: Okay. So you want additional feedback right now? That'll come a little later in in the in this meeting or some other type uh t time. [0:35:46, 0:35:59]: Um if I it might be best if we just get through basically we have one of these slides for each park and then when we go to questions, we want to go back to each park and kind of look at it. That'd be fine best way to do it. Go ahead, please. Okay. [0:36:04, 0:36:24]: All right, Gardner Park. So expanding the park to the south, that would be over here. Um, improving connectivity within the park, improving pedestrian connections to Cochrane Park and the surrounding area, assessing the drainage, improving stormwater management in this park as well, also restoring the stream, fixing and replacing the bridge, adding a new playground. [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: Yeah. [0:36:25, 0:36:45]: Adding signage and wayfinding to better identify this park, adding benches along the trail, resurfacing the parking lot, adding ADA parking spaces and accessible paths throughout the park. If we did allocate this property over here, that would be a good spot for possibly adding additional parking and more accessible trails. [0:36:45, 0:36:45]: Yeah. [0:36:52, 0:37:12]: Memorial Park. Um so we're thinking maybe you could relocate the transfer station, add a new park entrance on that side. Um we know that we've heard from people that a lot this is one of the parks that a lot of people don't know how to that this exists or they have a hard time finding this park. So having a new entrance on that on MLK MLK senior. [0:37:12, 0:37:15]: your heritage trail that could provide better frontage. Um [0:37:16, 0:37:23]: You have the parking, have the direct trail connection to Rees Creek Trail, have a trailhead there and the dog park there. [0:37:23, 0:37:42]: Um and then also improving the pedestrian connections to the surrounding area and improving the wayfinding signage to the park, again making sure that people know how to get here and can get here easily, and then adding interpretive signage along MLK Senior Trail, make it add some more celebratory signage and [0:37:42, 0:38:02]: Um wayfinding and then improve internal ADA circulation and access. So that's at within the park, making sure everyone can get to every component. And then adding shade features. It's pretty hot out there. We've heard people want to see more trees or shade structures, adding public art, add community garden. [0:38:02, 0:38:02]: Yeah. [0:38:03, 0:38:23]: This also this park also has drainage issues, so figuring out some kind of central better management of the stormwater, adding benches along the trails, adding a variety of pavilions. That means also adding some smaller pavilions where smaller groups can rent and gather rather than just the bigger ones. [0:38:23, 0:38:36]: ones, improving the existing basketball courts, and then also possibly adding another court. And then this is another location for a splash pad that could happen, and then updating and improving the rest restrooms here. [0:38:41, 0:39:01]: And then for Reeves Creek Trailhead, uh, this one's a bit more straightforward. Uh adding shade around the exercise equipment and above to make it more usable during the really hot summers we're having, adding bathrooms, adding signage and wayfinding an informational kiosk, especially giving information about the trail, and then adding public. [0:39:01, 0:39:01]: Like art. [0:39:08, 0:39:28]: For Unity Monument Park. We haven't thought of a this is a pretty complete uh park. We are looking for a little bit of input on this. One thing we've heard is just adding TV informational screens that could advertise about community events. For municipal park, we know that the streetscape project is happening right now. [0:39:28, 0:39:38]: And we aren't quite sure about we're still have some questions, so that's a bit to be determined based on what's happening with the streetscape project in terms of opportunities for that that park. [0:39:41, 0:40:01]: And then for the new parkland, again, that can be could be multiple sites or it could be in a variety of sizes, but for those new locations, we're thinking again emphasizing on the neighborhood scale or the community scale, regional scale, or natural, and then the natural resources areas. [0:40:01, 0:40:08]: Prioritizing those locations outside of the current service areas that are maximized that maximize the number of residents within a 20-minute walk of the park. [0:40:10, 0:40:30]: The ideas that we've uh heard for the new park land, so basketball court, again, a lot of what the gaps were that we saw were a lot of those sports courts. Um, so basketball court, tennis court, pickleball, skate park, football fields, soccer fields, baseball fields, softball fields, playgrounds, public art, adventure zone, multi-use. [0:40:30, 0:40:45]: used trails, rock climbing wall, food vendor space such as for food trucks, multi-use trails, picnic pavilions, open lawn, event space, and that could be rental for events like weddings, dog park and natural areas. [0:40:46, 0:41:06]: And I I think as Beverly mentioned earlier, there are a couple of different strategies, you know, that we could use with the new park that I think we really need to think through. But just because of the kind of lay of the land of the city, it's kind of spread out. Um, you know, so one one option would be to just grab one giant park that means [0:41:06, 0:41:26]: meets all the needs. Uh but you you wouldn't solve some of the walkability uh issues that we've identified. Um so you know another strategy would be a few smaller parks strategically placed so that we're kind of spreading service out so that every part of the city has kind of good access. So that's one of the [0:41:26, 0:41:36]: Those are those are a couple of the things that we're gonna be wrestling with as we kind of search for this kind of new park scenario in programming. [0:41:39, 0:41:42]: Okay. Um [0:41:42, 0:41:47]: We can just briefly highlight the next steps and then we can go back to each park and get input if that works. [0:41:48, 0:41:56]: So next steps, so this is where's in the programming phase, we're figuring out what the we're refining what each part should include. [0:41:56, 0:42:08]: Um and what that new park should include. After this, we'll be moving into concept design of each park. We would like to bring those concepts back to your next work session and get another round of feedback. We'll go back to the steering committee. [0:42:08, 0:42:14]: and continue to refine it and then another public input meeting so that we've really gotten a lot of input on the concepts. [0:42:15, 0:42:17]: And then after that we'll move into our action plan and funding. [0:42:18, 0:42:29]: in November, where we're starting to look at the operations and maintenance plan, implement implementation plan, um, grant another funding plan and cost estimates, and be finished in January. [0:42:29, 0:42:49]: All right, fantastic. I would um a couple of things off the top of my head is uh more parks means we have to acqu acquisition and locate some land and for one thing to figure that out. And then we in a previous pr uh conversation a topic came up about T-SPLOST, transportation, special purpose option sales tax right to pass. So part of that uh process would be [0:42:49, 0:43:09]: a trail plan that we have and and that would help connect the communities and the parks of one another for walkability and things of that nature as well. So uh we're looking forward to that as we continue to collect that funds and help out with this whole process. But uh also somehow I think later on in the week we have some other meetings set aside. [0:43:09, 0:43:29]: One on one meetings, is that right? Set aside with you all? So okay, so um I mean so if you want to go back and the council wants to do this, uh we can go back to each one of those and give us a general idea, but I'm pretty sure this will be covered also in those one on one meetings a little later on in the week as well. And we're happy to I mean we can work whichever we want. I mean if anybody has any general comments now we'll [0:43:29, 0:43:49]: want to follow up with additional comments. If anybody has any comments they want to send in writing or email, do that too. And there's a lot of and and we need to this presentation is slightly different than what we turned in in the packet. So we need to reshare it. We just shuffled some information around it. [0:43:49, 0:44:07]: updated a couple numbers on the parkland uh to account for the county parkland uh so we want to make sure that you have uh the best possible information. Um all right so anybody got any thoughts and processes that you want to discuss at this point? Go right ahead sir okay well Mr. Alexander we'll go to Miss Barber next. [0:44:08, 0:44:09]: Go ahead, Ms. Barb. [0:44:11, 0:44:13]: You mentioned um [0:44:14, 0:44:16]: Memorial Park has an option. [0:44:16, 0:44:18]: Uh for a splash pad. Mm-hmm. [0:44:18, 0:44:20]: Where would you suggest we put it? [0:44:21, 0:44:22]: In what area? [0:44:23, 0:44:25]: Have you identified? [0:44:25, 0:44:45]: We so so the next steps uh we're gonna draw we're gonna basically take this program and hopefully call the program down a little bit. There's a lot of program we have here listed as opportunities and we'll apply it to the site. So the next thing that we'll see in this meeting are plans uh and we can walk you through specific. [0:44:45, 0:45:05]: Of where those things might happen. It's a big park. I know there's parking issues there. You know, we talked a little bit about the kind of uh access issues. So I think all of that is connected. Um uh so it's difficult with the current configuration to be like, oh, there's the best place for it. Um, but there, I mean [0:45:05, 0:45:10]: There's definitely room for one out there for sure. Thank you. If that's if that's where you all want to do it. [0:45:12, 0:45:32]: I I think actually that's the other point about the splash parks or splash pad since that's come up in other meetings. Um we've we've identified opportunities in multiple parks for it. Um, you know, you can do one big one, you could do a few small ones if you wanted to spread them out more. Um uh [0:45:32, 0:45:52]: it just there are there are a number of different strategies that that we can kind of employ on that too. A small spot it really does I mean there's a kind of entry level cost to have a splash pad um but beyond that um you know it expands by programming the splash pad so we could do smaller multiple splash pads uh [0:45:52, 0:45:55]: Uh versus one giant one that's you know [0:45:55, 0:46:12]: Okay, thank you. Ms. Robert, you need got another question? Okay, Ms. Alexander, go ahead please. Yeah, thank you for that. Quality over quantity myself, but it is what it is. But uh the some of the things that I saw that you talked of while the whole council is here, there's some low hanging fruit. [0:46:13, 0:46:14]: The low hanging fruit, Mr. Aaron. [0:46:16, 0:46:36]: Want you to I wanna make sure we all we on the same page here. Mr. Aaron, as we walk look and you're in in the as the staff members responsible for this, every time I go by the exercise equipment, I think the same thing. It needs a cover over on Reese Creek. The playground equipment is a hundred degrees at Clark Park in the sun. That's low-hanging fruit. [0:46:36, 0:46:56]: That needs to go ahead and happen now rather than later. We need to, as a counsel, I think we could should be able to agree that that is a purchase that needed to be made made because if my granddaughter gets on the slide at 12 noon, she's going to burn herself. So those are the kind of things that I think that we could go ahead and tick off as we continue to move through this process. [0:46:56, 0:47:16]: And again, I swear to you, I was driving down Reese Flipping Road and I'm looking over there and the sun is just beaming on the exercise equipment. And I see, you know, up at Village Park, they already have the covers up there already. And we need to do the same thing. I would look at that for the uh shade in the equipment for that. [0:47:16, 0:47:36]: I just want to make sure that again I I like the timetable where you are in terms of doing things in terms of uh getting to uh where we are where implementation uh is where we want to be at. So you were pr you said you'd be pretty much the process will be wrapped up by January. [0:47:36, 0:47:46]: part would be over in January, we're ready to start on schematic design, which would be the first part of the kind of uh the construction process. So that would that would kick off sometime in January. [0:47:47, 0:47:52]: Um the first portion of that work is actually funded as part of this. [0:47:52, 0:47:53]: Mr. Theron, could you come up? [0:47:58, 0:48:08]: Uh the A C man. Let me um as far as everything is concerned, and I wanna get you all you all been out to these parks, right? [0:48:09, 0:48:09]: Okay. [0:48:10, 0:48:24]: Now, the equipment at these parks are in f what what level were I what I saw when I was at Clark Park with my granddaughter, it needed it it needed a lot of work. The swings, the slides and everything, what did you see? [0:48:26, 0:48:46]: Um uh so uh there are a lot of different elements of Clark Park. Um uh I would say actually probably the play equipment is in the best condition of anything there. Um uh just because it's kind of the newest thing there. Um but uh uh the shade is kind of the biggest thing on any play equipment and [0:48:45, 0:49:05]: And um it's near the tree line, um, but it's still sticking out in the heat of the summer, you know, kids will get cooked to that. So I agree, uh shades shades huge. Um the the other elements at Clark Park, the uh pavilions and the restrooms, although they've been very well maintained. [0:49:05, 0:49:23]: or showing their age. Um and uh part of that is environmental floods down there, even though they're raised up, just being in that kind of damp environment, uh and they're partially constructed from wood, that kind of wears on um on them as well. So but the playground equipment, I mean [0:49:23, 0:49:34]: There's a lot of it. It actually has good place uh good safety surface. Not all playgrounds have that high a quality of uh safety surface. And I mean [0:49:34, 0:49:41]: The s that the slide tower is pretty sweet. I mean there's a lot of slides on that thing, so and I think that there's probably a few [0:49:41, 0:50:01]: It's not a total rehaul, but there are some a few components that you could just replace that are more outdated and more used than some of the other ones. And I know the fully accessible if when I went over and touched those, those aren't functioning right now correctly. Right. So I think there's some that can just be updated. Maybe it's not a whole rehaul, but if certain [0:50:01, 0:50:05]: certain elements could be changed out for the newer components. [0:50:05, 0:50:25]: Well what I saw when I was there was that some of the equipment, the slide I mean the uh swings and all of that, that equipment was battered. It needed be it just didn't appear, uh the appearance of it. Maybe some of the s the seats could be changed out for the uh particular sli uh the swings and that kind of thing, and then some of the equipment needed to be [0:50:25, 0:50:45]: painted or made or just the appearance of it was not very um it wasn't uh some of the things were rusty a little bit. So those kind of things. Those are the kind of things that I want to talk to you about, Mr. Aaron, is that the overall maintenance of the park. These are the things that we shouldn't have to wait on and that this council can collectively [0:50:45, 0:50:50]: Agree, let's go ahead and fix the playground equipment uh at the park uh in this interim time. [0:50:53, 0:51:03]: Well we need some funding, let us know. No, it's not funding. We made several repairs over at Clark Park. In fact, we had somebody vandalizing set a fire on the uh [0:51:03, 0:51:23]: the surface there. So we've made numerous repairs to the equipment. We have some people that decided sleep and sleep in the park and those slides and things. But we've made numerous repairs to that equipment since it was installed about two years ago. So it's always constant maintenance to it. But uh there's also some other issues that are working against us. But staff doesn't [0:51:23, 0:51:28]: a great job with the maintenance on the facilities that we have. And one of the reasons we're [0:51:29, 0:51:49]: implementing this park master plan is that a lot of things are dated. The restrooms are small, they're not ADA compliant. So those are some things that we want to address. Just like the pavilions, you currently three different groups can rent one pavilion. Each one of them have a small section. That's why we talked about having individual pavilions because if I'm having my [0:51:49, 0:52:09]: my child's birthday party and then somebody's having a cookout, they're playing rap music, they don't go together. So if everybody has their own space. So that's why the this master plan is so important. It's gonna set the tone for how our parts look going forward. There's a lot of work that needs to be done, but staff is doing a great job of maintaining what we have. [0:52:09, 0:52:17]: And we're not satisfied with that and that's why this master plan is gonna be very beneficial to how we go about moving forward with our parks. [0:52:18, 0:52:34]: Okay. Thank you, sir. And then the last question for y'all. As as far as what are we doing in terms of the parks a and the wayfinding signage, you are are are that one of your groups is working on some a project for us to come up with concepts for the wayfinder. Are you all involved in that at all or no? [0:52:35, 0:52:37]: No sir, T S W is not involved in the U.S. [0:52:38, 0:52:56]: They're not some okay, I there's another group. Yes, sir. Okay,'cause I know you guys do amazing work, so you know. Okay, I appreciate it. We will make recommendations for that type of stuff in this. We just aren't probably designing. You're not gonna design it, but you'll make the recommendation for it. That's right. Okay, thank you. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:53:05, 0:53:25]: Uh I I just want to start with Clark Park. I think that when I uh go to Clark Park and I see uh this stream uh creek down the middle and I've seen signs and I don't know if they're still there, talking about moccasin or snakes or whatever, uh and I see kids playing with balls and that could potentially be in that creek. [0:53:25, 0:53:37]: I don't know how clean the water is. I don't know if that how often it's being tested, but I think that a small uh foot and a half to two foot wall on each side of that creek would be uh you know uh one that would be [0:53:37, 0:53:46]: you know, like you've seen in other parts, it looks kind of rust that rustic look, but they look but it's a creek. It's a wall of small water goes on both sides of that creek. [0:53:46, 0:53:51]: that would keep balls from rolling over in there or whatever you do and it would kind of be a [0:53:51, 0:53:55]: It's preventative uh measure for safety, I believe. [0:54:00, 0:54:01]: I'll put up over there. [0:54:01, 0:54:14]: Um now over at Memorial Park, you you all talked about and and that's one of the places that we definitely have to deal with we find signs you I I talked to so many people they have no idea what when I say Memorial Park, what I'm talking about. [0:54:15, 0:54:35]: But over Memorial Park, one of the things that I want us to look at as we develop the park, we look at other things to put over there and to bring more people and influx of people is that you only have two houses on that street from ML King Harriet's trail when you make that left. You got a cemetery on both sides, but you only have an eighteen foot. [0:54:35, 0:54:37]: Why street. [0:54:39, 0:54:59]: Two cars parking each other got it, one got to go off the road. I think that's interesting that a car would have to go off the road when you got a cemetery on both sides, which is real interesting. Um 14 foot one-way streets work very well. And if you do that over there, coming up and being a part of historic uh being a part of the historic [0:54:59, 0:55:19]: District, you can still put a five-foot uh five-foot walking path in there from uh in the King Harriet's trailer to the park. So I would say that would be one of my suggestions that that become a one-way street, a 13-foot uh wide street with a five-foot walking path from in the King Harriet's trailer. [0:55:19, 0:55:39]: That over there as we progress into bringing other people in there and the effectiveness of it being a one-way street doesn't affect a a majority of the community because you've got several ways back out of there. In fact, we got a green front cafe coming, we would like for them to pass by there on the way out, maybe grab something we never know. So I I I [0:55:39, 0:55:43]: I would just uh ask that you all look at that and make your recommend recommendations to this council. [0:55:44, 0:55:48]: Absolutely yeah, we'll study that as one of our options. Thank you. [0:55:48, 0:55:52]: Any other comments? Well I'll be oh I'm sorry, that uh you w you want to go [0:55:53, 0:55:55]: Oh yeah, I'll speak to real brief. Thank you. [0:55:56, 0:56:16]: Um hi, good evening. Um thank you so much for your presentation. I thought it was great. Um I tend to agree that um some of these things are low low-hanging fruit, adding benches, more park benches, planting some trees, um and maybe even putting [0:56:15, 0:56:35]: Providing some art. I think we can we can do that right away. Um throughout the city, not just even our parks. I mean, around city hall, across the street, by our fountains, and in some of those green spaces that we have. Um so I think it would be a good idea if we came up with some type of concept or [0:56:35, 0:56:55]: plan to include those um uh those type of things as soon as possible. I don't think any council member would disagree. I think that that's well needed. I mean more and more people are beginning to come back out and um outdoors is is [0:56:55, 0:57:15]: uh I think during that covert time period we learned that you know being outdoors was what we had to do. And so um Clark Park is is very popular. I would like to see it expanded. I hate that we have a park in between it um which is a county park and then we have that [0:57:15, 0:57:34]: rail line I wish we could have combined all three parks and made one huge park right um but maybe that's a future thing uh but for now at least the benches um some art and other things that we can do um would be great so thank you so much [0:57:34, 0:57:35]: Thank you. [0:57:36, 0:57:39]: Mm. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Thank you, Mayor. [0:57:40, 0:57:53]: Um I would say that the um analysis of all of the parks I I think is is really great. I I think you have captured um [0:57:54, 0:57:56]: everything with with all of the park. [0:57:56, 0:58:02]: Um and I made some notes here about Memorial Park. Um I actually um [0:58:03, 0:58:14]: sort of favor Memorial Park and I do believe that um Memorial Park presents the biggest challenge um as far as all of the parks. [0:58:14, 0:58:15]: And [0:58:17, 0:58:18]: If we're talking about [0:58:19, 0:58:23]: Um add into Memorial Park any features [0:58:23, 0:58:26]: That's going to increase. [0:58:27, 0:58:28]: Um [0:58:28, 0:58:29]: Participation [0:58:30, 0:58:31]: Parking is a must. [0:58:32, 0:58:35]: Excuse me. Um [0:58:35, 0:58:37]: And any given weekend right now. [0:58:38, 0:58:40]: Um pocket is an issue. [0:58:41, 0:58:44]: So any improvement and any [0:58:44, 0:58:47]: uh additional participation from [0:58:48, 0:58:49]: Uh the citizens read. [0:58:49, 0:58:52]: Um park is g is gonna be that issue. [0:58:53, 0:58:54]: I don't know. [0:58:55, 0:59:00]: Um, I don't have a crystal ball. Uh I'm not an engineer, but [0:59:00, 0:59:02]: I think that is going to be [0:59:03, 0:59:06]: The n one of the number one issue for Memorial Park [0:59:06, 0:59:07]: How do we [0:59:08, 0:59:12]: increase the parking. And I also think that [0:59:13, 0:59:33]: Just knowing the significance of um ML King senior legacy in Stockbridge, we have to capitalize on that connection, the M. L. King Heritage Trail. You ride down through there now, the transfer station, and then [0:59:33, 0:59:41]: And it's a private owned fenced-in property. So, and I don't know, and we have not asked the city. [0:59:42, 0:59:44]: А тек ви хавтометні с комитмент. [0:59:45, 0:59:46]: to transfer [0:59:47, 0:59:49]: A move the transfrustation. [0:59:50, 0:59:57]: I I think we're gonna have to make that commitment. I know it's not gonna be cheap to do that, but for Memorial Park, [0:59:58, 1:00:02]: These are the thing A, B, C, D, E, these are the kind of things that I see. [1:00:03, 1:00:09]: in order for the opportunities for Memorial Park, these things had to happen. [1:00:09, 1:00:27]: And if we don't make these thing happen, I don't see anything else um fitting in. Um and so the city, number one, I think the city gonna have to make the commitment to to move the transfer station. [1:00:27, 1:00:45]: I think we're gonna have to make a commitment for some land acquisition with that privately owned fenced-and property. Um I think we're gonna have to seriously look at how do we increase the parking and by what numbers. Um [1:00:46, 1:00:53]: And I do think again, as I'm sort of rehashing some of these things, I think we have to make that commitment to enhance [1:00:53, 1:01:00]: the King legacy. So when you're talking about um ML King Harris's trail, [1:01:01, 1:01:03]: Memorial Park. [1:01:03, 1:01:05]: and the Reed's Creek Trail. [1:01:05, 1:01:08]: with some some type of buckhead. [1:01:08, 1:01:11]: А а тикфін, дас девізін. [1:01:12, 1:01:14]: That we have to capture. [1:01:15, 1:01:35]: And if if and we as a council agree on that vision, then we have to sort of how do we go about implementing that vision? And so and all of these things, parking, land acquisition, moving to transfer station, all of these things will have to happen. So I I'm sort of throwing this out and I think we already [1:01:35, 1:01:37]: and know this, I think you all know it as well. [1:01:42, 1:01:51]: But but we but but for me, uh has to be a commitment for these things to happen. So I'm suggesting that [1:01:52, 1:01:54]: T SW [1:01:54, 1:02:00]: probably need to make that recommendation. Now I've heard Councilman Blount mention the one way street. [1:02:01, 1:02:06]: I I you know, I'm not really one hundred percent on that, but I know that is a solution. [1:02:07, 1:02:20]: So that's what we're about, trying to find solutions. That is a solution. So we have to take a closer look at that as well. But I think Memorial Park creates the biggest challenge. [1:02:20, 1:02:29]: of all of the parks. And I just want us all to just comment on those. But I think y'all are doing a great job. And I think the analysis I think we have captured [1:02:30, 1:02:33]: uh for all of the parks I think we have captured that. [1:02:33, 1:02:34]: Um [1:02:35, 1:02:55]: I and I guess with the timeline, January, I know these kind of things are really sort of slow. And then it goes into finance. So I'm gonna start right there because I know with all of these parks, and then we're talking about a new park, but I know it's not overnight. Um [1:02:55, 1:03:15]: But I'm I'm glad we're in this process going forward trying to answer some of these questions. And I think the citizens do appreciate us trying to improve uh these parks because it is um improvement in the way of life, health and wellness as we look around, people are walking the [1:03:15, 1:03:22]: the dog people are exercising, the kids are out in the park during the summer, so these kind of things. So I I think we're on point. [1:03:22, 1:03:33]: Uh, we just have to just continue to move forward. But I do just wanna mention one more time that I think Memorial Park created the biggest challenges and I hope that we can sort of [1:03:33, 1:03:46]: look at these things and I don't know, mister Aaron, I don't know T H Dubb, I don't know when an engineer would come in,'cause if we're talking about parking and I don't know I guess not to prolong, but [1:03:46, 1:03:48]: If I ask you this question now. [1:03:48, 1:04:03]: What do you see? How how do we remedies for Memorial Park is for additional parking? So have you put your crystal ball and sort of looked out in the woods and say, oh, okay, we can do it here. So just briefly, so what are your thoughts just about parking? [1:04:04, 1:04:05]: Well [1:04:05, 1:04:25]: It's hard for us to go out to a park like that and not think that way, although we try to kind of be objective about it. Um we haven't really mentioned the transfer station, but a huge constraint for that park, uh from b uh both a no uh a noise uh and an odor kind of standpoint. It's just it's just an [1:04:25, 1:04:45]: In the wrong place uh and and the parks already there. So um so a couple things, um a couple things that we're gonna do. Uh so we're for that park especially, but for all the parks, um if there are specific conditions that we're trying to remedy, we'll study multiple options. [1:04:45, 1:05:05]: Options so that we can kind of compare them and we'll show you guys this group the options and let you kind of understand what the pros and cons of those are. One of the things we're definitely we've been talking about this for a while, uh, gonna consider is uh, you know, relocating the [1:05:05, 1:05:25]: transfer station uh and utilizing that portion of the property because that's actually part of this uh of that park parcel. Um pushing a new entrance in off MLK there, doing parking on that side and then bringing people over uh the creek uh to the to the park. It's I think it almost [1:05:25, 1:05:28]: I don't know that it quite doubles the size. [1:05:28, 1:05:48]: Of the park, but it's at least a third. I think it's about eight more acres. Yeah. So that's a huge opportunity to make a direct connection to the road out there, which would definitely make it a really visible kind of element in the community. Um I don't think you can propose something like that without looking at alternatives like [1:05:48, 1:06:08]: The one-way uh street option um uh or to just improve that uh the current entrance too. So we're just gonna look at them all. And then I think um uh one other thing to remember uh is that as part of our recommendations, uh we'll prioritize. [1:06:08, 1:06:28]: things so the low-hanging fruit we'll put that right up front uh and may recommend make recommendations for things that you can do immediately that are easy to remedy things like maintenance uh if there's a if there is an art program that you want to start up uh in the community we'll identify locations for those types of elements so [1:06:28, 1:06:48]: So day one, you guys can show progress on this plan while we're working on the kind of heavier design stuff. We will get an engineer involved during schematic designs, but as planners, we're, you know, we draw parking lots and locate them and site that stuff all the time. So that is going to be part of our kind of initial planning process. [1:06:48, 1:07:08]: Did that answer your question? Most definitely. Okay, good. Ms. Blount, go ahead, please. Well actually, I mean I want to come in on that uh real quick. We uh almost three years ago we went on this site and you can look at it. A lot of time is awake and you all try to agree with this as an opportunity. [1:07:08, 1:07:28]: The way something is designed can hinder what what we're actually looking for. So when we went out there before I was saying we that doesn't really matter who is that they showed that even cutting those trees down and then showed the frontage on the street and doing certain things, they showed that 25 to 20 almost. [1:07:28, 1:07:48]: So I would ask to look at look at that. Absolutely. Because the way this thing is configured is going to cut cleaning parking spaces on me. [1:07:47, 1:07:48]: Mm-hmm. [1:07:49, 1:07:53]: That has it been erected over there at that part that that we already have? [1:07:53, 1:08:09]: Well, we we do have a pavilion but there was not a place to put it and what we're looking at now the concepts that we're proposing will be completely different than these pavilions. You'd have pavilions centered like in a par with a with a courtyard instead of [1:08:09, 1:08:29]: just large pavilions. So it might be a pavilion you have some that see maybe 25 people, then you have one that sits 50 people. The issue you run into right now, like I said, you have a large pavilion and you break it up into three different sections. Or you have one large pavilion. So if somebody rents that then other people don't have any spaces available. [1:08:29, 1:08:42]: So it's a different concept that they're looking at. And I think is a scope and a vision that a lot of parts I know when I was in Virginia I saw one where it was like fifteen [1:08:43, 1:09:02]: uh pavilion centered around a courtyard that had fire pits and everything like that. Everybody had their own little space that was separate from everybody. So you could kinda get into your own little thing without infringing on other people. So those are some of the concepts we're using, trying to get away from just one big pavilion and just have multiple pavilions. [1:09:03, 1:09:23]: But I I I think that just to follow up on what you just said, I think that the city, because you can go to the block party, and you have one pavilion that's separated in three sections. Yes. But you can come to this part, even the one that we see, and you rent the whole pavilion. I think that we need to have we we need to have [1:09:23, 1:09:35]: it's set where you just rent the pavilion. Yes. Because when you get into those sections inside there, you just create more problems. I think that's in the quad part. If you rent the pavilion, you got the pavilion. [1:09:35, 1:09:55]: We ha we run into that about every other weekend. Somebody's arguing they don't want to leave or they conflicting with the ben I'm having conflicts with what I'm having. But it may be a a a uh uh something that should be brought to this council or whoever needs to make that decision to have to alleviate you know, alleviate those problems that that Scott and we can get with the [1:09:55, 1:10:03]: That problem again. That's that's low hanging fruit. That's the easy fix. I think that we should have been done that, in my opinion. [1:10:04, 1:10:05]: Is it? [1:10:05, 1:10:25]: Oh good, okay. I have one other comment and I have to tell you this comment is not original for me. It's something that was brought to my attention some years ago and it deals with connectivity. When you're talking about Clark Park and Gardner Park, and right between the two parks is what a rail line. So the question is is is whether or not if you want to con talk about connectivity, do we go under [1:10:25, 1:10:36]: or will we go over? And then obviously either one of those will probably be very expensive to do, and then you have to coordinate a course with the North Worth Southern in reference to that. But that's something I don't know, it's food for thought. [1:10:36, 1:10:55]: Uh like I said, it wasn't my original concept, my original thought, but I thought it was something to maybe check into as we look at other things in this aspect and that would help with connectivity. And then of course going from Gardner to Cochrane, it's between the two is just really a creek bed. That's a easy fix. That's easy. But the rail line is something else. Food for thought. [1:10:55, 1:11:15]: Any other comments? Yes, sir. Go ahead. And certainly I think we had I think you guys might be already looking into that. We had mentioned that earlier when you you had mentioned it and I had as well. So the one question I have remaining now is is Mr. Aaron, we had talked about a specific pocket parks plan for the entire city. With those [1:11:15, 1:11:28]: be identified and what we're doing here for the beautification aspect, you know, around the city to have these uh stations or the parking parks uh in tur parts of the beautification plan. [1:11:29, 1:11:30]: Well I'm [1:11:31, 1:11:51]: You know, I I would definitely say that's one strategy and approach to adding new parkland. And it like I said, there there are ton ton of different ways to dice. You mentioned I'm not saying these substitute for the others. These would be in addition to. Right. Yeah. [1:11:51, 1:12:11]: Well, so if we like let's say we need two, I don't I don't remember what the number was. Let's say we need 150 acres of parkland and a regional park or even a community park's fifty acres. Uh we might take the balance of that. We might do two regional parks, we might take the balance of it and look at pocket parks that really extend open space service to different parts. [1:12:10, 1:12:30]: to the community. And I think that's a great strategy and a way to get a park within five minutes from everybody's house, which is the goal. Keep people out of their cars, uh, you know, which helps with congestion and uh public health, uh, and give them a place that's close to their house that, you know, they can take ownership of. So that's definitely a good strategy. [1:12:30, 1:12:34]: I think that was one of the options that was there. I think it was like [1:12:35, 1:12:41]: number one or something. It had like I think neighborhood parts, pocket pocket parts. [1:12:41, 1:12:50]: Well, as I said, in addition to. Yes. Not in place of. It wasn't the only option, but it was just one of a number of options. All right. Thank you. [1:12:50, 1:12:52]: Any other questions for this group? [1:12:53, 1:13:02]: All right. Thank you very much. Obviously we'll have some uh one on one conversation, I guess, a little later on in the week as as we go down this road. Okay. Thank you for the presentation. Okay, appreciate it. [1:13:03, 1:13:14]: We're going to new business and uh new business is council consideration to approve the FY twenty twenty four Elmig, a local maintenance and improvement grant list presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [1:13:15, 1:13:24]: Yes, uh Mr Mayor. Uh we're coming before you tonight asking for approval of the twenty twenty four L Meg list. So uh we're in the process of [1:13:25, 1:13:45]: uh starting a 2023 list so we just want to stay ahead and on schedule with g dot schedule so tonight we're just asking for approval but it'll be late 2023 before we put out the rfp for for the ailmig project and it's about five point two [1:13:45, 1:13:58]: miles of road the city typically resurfaces about 5.2 miles. It's about 12, 13 streets on here. It's in your packets. It's uh [1:13:59, 1:14:19]: Surrey Lane from Carriage Lake Drive to Cul de Sac, Chariot Lane from Surrey Lane to Cul de Sac and Carriage Lake Subdivision, Coach Way from Carriage Lake Drive to Cul de Sac and the Carriage Lake Subdivision, Lakefront Court, Carriage Lake Drive to the Cul de Sac is Carriage Lake Subdivision. [1:14:19, 1:14:26]: Carrots Lake Lane from Carrots Lake Drive to Cul de Sac. Gallup Drive is in the Pine Grove subdivision. [1:14:27, 1:14:28]: Um [1:14:28, 1:14:48]: Gallup Drive from Brunswick Circle to Gallup Drive in the Pine Grove Subdivision. Shetley Drive from Gallup Drive to the Cold of Second Pine Grove. Brunswick Circle from Baltimore Avenue to Baltimore Avenue in the Pine Grove. Then you got Rock Lane from Brandon Road to the Cold of Second Lakeside. Needletop Court from Rock Lane to the Cold Second. [1:14:48, 1:15:08]: Falcons Ridge from Hawkeye Court to Cold de Second Lakeside. Got Enclave Trail from Vista Creek Drive to Thornwith Trace and Monarch Village. Got Chelsea Wood Court from Vista Creek Drive to Cold de Second, Monarch Village. You got Redbutt Lane from Country Club Drive north to Deerwood Drive and [1:15:08, 1:15:25]: Winsong, Deerwood Drive from the city limits at 755 Deerwood Drive to Cul-de-Sac and Winsong. Willowhill Lane from Country Club Drive north to Deerwood Drive and Winsong. Got Linton Court from Sunderland Way to Cul-de-Sac and Wingate Lakeside. [1:15:25, 1:15:39]: Chaucer Way from Sunderland Way to Cul de Sac and Wingate Lakeside, Paramount Drive from Cul-de-Sack to Cul-de-Sac in the summit, and Fairhaven Boulevard from Fairhaven Court to Sheffield Court, which is in the Appleton subdivision. [1:15:40, 1:15:41]: Mayor. [1:15:41, 1:15:52]: Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, please. I move that we approve the physical year twenty twenty-four LMEG list. There's a second. Ms. Barber second that. Any further discussion? I've got one question. You go right, sir. [1:15:53, 1:16:13]: Mr. Aaron, um ha having deal with drive on the uh Elmate list in 2024, is there any way that we could uh get an agreement or seek to get an agreement with uh Henry County that would take that because a portion of that is in the county. [1:16:13, 1:16:23]: Is there any way we can seek to get an agreement with the county for that road to make so that we can actually do the whole road? Just ask. [1:16:24, 1:16:30]: I don't know. I can you know, I can contact them and ask'em if that's on their list as well. [1:16:31, 1:16:51]: Well let me ask this. Let me mention this. Is that part see I was gonna think about this thinking thinking ahead like say for instance was successful with the annexation, how would those roads fit in? Because that probably would be twenty five, twenty six once you at least. If if it's part of the annexation and the an annexation is successful, then we'll do the whole road because it'll be a city road. Right. [1:16:51, 1:17:11]: And that made me think about everything else as well when it comes in, provided successful, citizens vote for it, it comes in and then all those other roles that have to go into rotation or this aspect. Yeah, I appreciate that mayor, but obviously a lot of this mute point what I'm asking, if you know I wouldn't say wendy. [1:17:11, 1:17:14]: Yes, okay. [1:17:16, 1:17:34]: That's plan B. But but the road, according to the uh analysis we had done, it's in need of repair the city portion. We didn't analyze the county portion since we don't have ownership of the road. So that portion in the city was deemed necessary to be paved. [1:17:35, 1:17:47]: All right. Any other questions? Yes. Well go ahead please. Uh in terms of um okay, what was this? I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought. Uh I'll come back to you. [1:17:48, 1:17:57]: Well I was gonna if you're no questions ask for the vote because we got a motion that made a second it so go ahead. All right. Well okay the motion made and second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:17:57, 1:18:05]: I fantastic you now. So okay, thank you very much. Thanks. I'm I'm sorry. I it came back to me. Uh you you know what we're you're doing a great job. [1:18:06, 1:18:11]: And the city is doing a great job paving streets, but nobody knows about it. [1:18:12, 1:18:32]: That's a problem. It's a problem for the city and all of this. I would ask that you and the city manager get with the public information officer to get this information. I get that question. I don't know about the rest of these council members, but I get that question from citizens all the time. When is my street going to be paved? This information needed to be put out publicly. [1:18:32, 1:18:52]: On the Facebook page or on the soul, so folks know when their street is going to be paved and they have a place that they can go to and seek out when uh that is going to happen. I would also like to see Mr. Gardner, the PIO officer, and Mr. Aaron go out to these sites, take some pictures of the. [1:18:52, 1:19:00]: the of the fact that we're doing that so that folks can actually understand that. Nothing wouldn't be anything wrong with a ribbon cutting for out the paving that street. [1:19:00, 1:19:20]: You know what I mean? Just for folks to know what we're doing.'Cause I see that and then folks really respond positively. But thank you. It's not just gonna be pictures, it's gonna be videos actually of the road. So great. And the list is always posted on Facebook and the city's other social media platforms as well as the city's website. But going forward in the future we're gonna start [1:19:20, 1:19:33]: doing a lot of projects where we're out videoing and putting it on the city social media of projects that we got in progress and projects that we've completed. So we're working on that. Thank you, sir. Good deal. Yes sir. [1:19:33, 1:19:46]: Uh uh I appreciate that, Mr. Aaron. Uh point because I think that we need to the citizens need to know. Um but I need need to make sure you all got a phone number for them to call. [1:19:47, 1:20:06]: Yes. Because once you put put out the Zelda list and you blast it, everybody that got a crack in their street done understand the status and needs when it comes to other parts of the industry's repair. So if you put it out, I'm good with that. But make sure you put a number out with that from the car. [1:20:06, 1:20:26]: Oh, public works number is always on there. So for them to to get in touch with it and I always tell people that roads are not resurfaced for aesthetic reasons. They're resurfaced for safety reasons. And just'cause it has one or two cracks in it does not mean it's an unsafe road. It just might not be aesthetically pleasing to look at, but it's [1:20:27, 1:20:43]: All right. All right. So thank you, sir. Pass unanimously in that aspect. So we'll move on to point number six. Council consideration to approve the T Mobile lease renewal at uh forty six seventeen North Henry Boulevard, uh million uh gallon water tank. Uh Mr. Deshus, please. [1:20:43, 1:21:03]: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. T-Mobile currently maintains a cellular antenna on top of the city's uh million-gallon water storage tank. They are paying the city approximately thirty-five hundred dollars a month, and their lease expires in December of this year, but they want to renew the lease, so we're bringing it to Mayor and Council for consideration to renew the lease. [1:21:03, 1:21:04]: The least. [1:21:04, 1:21:24]: Okay, good question. So what data do we have to back up that with that that rate is actually accurate and that that is uh the going rate for that? Was there some data that we can look at to see whether or not that thirty five hundred dollars is is is is the market for that? Yes, I can get that information to you. It's about the going rate for the metro. [1:21:24, 1:21:25]: Atlanta area. [1:21:26, 1:21:29]: Yeah,'cause I wanna make sure that they're paying appropriately, you know. Yeah. [1:21:30, 1:21:31]: Yeah, yes, go ahead, please. [1:21:31, 1:21:42]: Mr. Aaron, I'm sorry I have the call goes look good. Uh how long was the this lease that we just had? This lease? The one that's just expired. It'll expire in December. It's a yearly lease. [1:21:43, 1:21:45]: Yes, it's renewed every year. [1:21:46, 1:21:48]: Yes, I clicked on approved. [1:21:49, 1:22:05]: You know, questions from the council. Yeah, I I think I wanna want to get that information. Can we you you know we wanna table it to the next meeting until we have the information on the present table? I think so. We want to get the dollar amount appropriate for this. But we we have until let's find out. Do you say yes? Miss Barber says yes, anybody else? [1:22:05, 1:22:10]: I'm okay with bounding out the right amount. Fine, okay. So fine. So otherwise we're gonna table this then. [1:22:10, 1:22:14]: We're gonna table this to the next meeting then until you get the final amount, the confirm the amount. [1:22:15, 1:22:15]: Okay. [1:22:16, 1:22:17]: I'm sorry. [1:22:18, 1:22:26]: I'll make a motion to table it for the f for the following meeting. Okay. Who's second? Ms. Barber second. Alexander Barber, all in favor, please indicate. [1:22:27, 1:22:31]: Okay, it's unanimous decision. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. Okay. [1:22:32, 1:22:52]: We'll table that. Uh council consideration to approve uh Georgia Power Lighting Agreement for Street Light Ma enhancement in the amount of one hundred and fifteen thousand twenty-nine dollars. Funding source uh proposed FY twenty twenty-three budget presented by Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor, this has been in my pending file for [1:22:52, 1:23:12]: For a while, the previous city manager and I were tasked with meeting with Georgia Power to look at enhancing the street lights within the city. And this is spreadsheet as a result of that ride along with uh representatives from Georgia Power. So the total proposal as it is. [1:23:12, 1:23:28]: Right now we add 191 additional street lights. You'd go from adding like 67 lights on Hudson Bridge Road from I-75 to Highway 42. You'd add 30 uh street lights on Old Atlanta Road, 14 on Davidson Parkway. [1:23:28, 1:23:30]: Fourteen on Hudson Breed. [1:23:31, 1:23:44]: Twenty eight, I mean from Hudson Bridge to the quick trip. Then you'll also add some lights at Eagles Landon and Highway Forty Two. You'll add some at Eagles Landon Parkway and Country Club Drive. You'll add eight there. [1:23:44, 1:23:51]: Uh you at four at Flippin Road and North Henry Boulevard. And also you're at Patrick Henry and Jodica Road. [1:23:58, 1:24:18]: And so we're just bringing this for information. It'll add an additional hundred and fifteen thousand dollars to the annual street light budget. That budget is currently around five hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So I'm just bringing it to for information. I've had it on my file for a while and see what council wanted us to do with this. [1:24:19, 1:24:21]: Yeah, go ahead, please. Go ahead, Mayor Porta. [1:24:21, 1:24:39]: Uh thank you, Mr. Aaron. Um you and I had a conversation earlier um about this agenda item. At the appropriate time, Mayor and Council, I wanna motion uh to add uh Ty Street to Child Street. [1:24:39, 1:24:45]: from Walker Street to Wilson Street to the list. [1:24:47, 1:24:53]: Okay. So you're making a motion to add now to add that to this overall list and and okay, is there a second in the motion? [1:24:55, 1:24:56]: Okay. [1:24:59, 1:25:07]: Yes, um to add to the list Ty Street to Child Street. [1:25:09, 1:25:12]: Walkers well Wilson Street [1:25:12, 1:25:14]: Ту вака стріт. [1:25:16, 1:25:36]: Sir Sir Yeah uh yes. Go ahead please. Before we do that, Mayor Pro Tem, uh let's can we kinda discuss some other areas. I know I've had some business owners discuss MLK Senior Heritage, which is right downtown, uh right down there in the district area, in that area. I don't see any of that uh actually listed uh [1:25:36, 1:25:56]: you know, there's a discussion about uh folks potentially opening businesses down there right there in that general area, uh uh round one around that general area on the other side of the tracks, and that it's very dark there. Mayor if I if I may across here uh in front of uh the um [1:25:55, 1:26:10]: Ted Strickle in the flower shop one fourteen. It's very dark when you come through the we just need to drive through there at night and you'll see it's very dark. But Love Street or of Birch. [1:26:10, 1:26:26]: I think one of the things too we have to keep in mind is that this is a living, breathing, working document that we'll always be looking at additional areas. So this is not a final list. This is just a list to get started. And and as we find other areas that [1:26:26, 1:26:40]: you know, you think need improving lighting, then we can always add, but we gotta keep in mind that this budget is constantly growing. You gonna get up to the point where especially if you annex the new areas, you're gonna be talking a million plus dollars of street lights, but [1:26:41, 1:26:48]: We gotta keep that in mind, but this list is always capable of being expanded based on where the need is. [1:26:49, 1:27:01]: I certainly understand the priority is downtown, right? So uh this council has decided that and if we got new businesses and we wanna encourage them to come in, I th I think that need to be on the list now. [1:27:01, 1:27:21]: You would you amend the motion to that, uh Council? Well, my friend. Well, let me let me just say this if I may mayor. When I call Mr. Aaron uh about adding to this particular list, he did mention to me what he just stated that this was and is an ongoing process. [1:27:21, 1:27:25]: Personally I do not have a problem in adding that to the list. [1:27:27, 1:27:33]: And if the council's okay with that, I'm okay. But I just wanted to mention this, and this is one of my rationale when I spoke to Mr. Aaron. [1:27:34, 1:27:37]: If if any of you are traveling North Henry Boulevard [1:27:38, 1:27:38]: And you [1:27:39, 1:27:59]: And if you didn't know where Tide Street was next to that car wash, if you didn't know Tide Street was there, you would actually miss that. And it is so dark there. And that was one of the reasons why I wanted to emphasize this right now. Right. But if this council is okay, and I I'm sure Mr. Aaron is okay with it. [1:27:59, 1:28:02]: And we wanted to add some additional but again [1:28:03, 1:28:05]: You know, we we got to pay for it. [1:28:06, 1:28:10]: So just that one is what what I would ask for now. Stemma, stemma. [1:28:10, 1:28:18]: So I do not have a problem in adding uh that to my list, but I just want counselor to understand that, you know. [1:28:20, 1:28:22]: We we have to pay for these, certainly. All right. [1:28:23, 1:28:24]: Miss Barber, please. [1:28:26, 1:28:27]: I wanted to ask Mr. Aaron. [1:28:28, 1:28:36]: This list or this proposal that you presented to us, is this the list that Georgia Power did an assessment of the areas? [1:28:36, 1:28:56]: Yes. Yes, ma'am, it is. These are did they do an assessment of the entire city? We limits. Uh Jenni Miss Williams was the previous lighting rep, her and I over a period of two nights rode throughout the city of Stockbridge. These are the locations that she felt had an immediate need. [1:28:56, 1:29:05]: And we would keep going with the process, you know, as we identify other future areas that needed lighting enhancements. [1:29:06, 1:29:26]: So like I say it the the list will always be added to if the city so chooses. You know, if there was a area that we needed lighting improvement in, then we can have Georgia Power give us a proposal for it. Because just like downtown, we do downtown, it's not gonna be the typical street lights. It's a it'll be a decorative pole to fit in. [1:29:26, 1:29:29]: and with the downtown area, so [1:29:29, 1:29:49]: Thank you. So mayor for tell my once up there. Let me ask you something real quick. Let me jump in here. I saw on here a part of a a part of the lights I was on a diagram saw went to Clayton County. Can you explain that? Why w why are we paying for lights to go into Clayton County? Or what was the issue with this? Mm-hmm. What's going on? No, well you're talking about a tr a traffic light? [1:29:49, 1:30:09]: Yeah, well yeah, and one of these diagrams, it's in the book here. One of these diagrams show and talks about uh some street lights going in Clayton County. No, they it goes from on Davidson Parkway down to the Clayton County line, but there are no street lights that the city would be paying for in Clayton County. Well I thought I saw in the map where is that it it actually it actually shows a lot. [1:30:09, 1:30:25]: line. As a matter of fact, it uh is a one here says locations 17 to 25 for lights on this map says in the art in Clayton County what it says. And it shows on this little schematic here, it shows Clayton County North and Henry County South. [1:30:25, 1:30:32]: And uh so I was just kind of curious about that. But anyway, uh it's it's it's in the book, it's it's in the design, it's right there. [1:30:33, 1:30:53]: Uh I didn't uh but I was kinda wondering w why we would be doing that. No, so we're the only lights we'll have is on Davidson Parkway to Henry County line. Those are the the only lights that were given to me as part of the proposal from George Power. All right. Uh Mayor Pro Tem go ahead please. Uh I I will amend my motion if um [1:30:52, 1:30:55]: Mr Alexander, Mr. Blount give me [1:30:56, 1:30:57]: It's the streets that I needed to add. [1:30:58, 1:31:01]: Go go ahead, Mr. Blount. [1:31:01, 1:31:04]: One w one of the things and and and I appreciate [1:31:05, 1:31:20]: what's going on here because we're all concerned about different areas of the city. Uh and so I'm pretty sure that we all can go out and find the surface streets that that that need more light. But when you talk about a business district [1:31:21, 1:31:37]: That's immediate now. Now I think that we can approve the business district now and get that cost and then come later with those other streets that the council desire later. But I think the business district and I went through that just the other night. [1:31:37, 1:31:57]: Uh and it is in bad shape. We're talking about upkeeping downtown. I mean we we have someone here that I could I can pass that street if I'm not looking right. Uh McCain Creek. We can talk about lighting in the surface streets, but when we talk about our business district, I would like for us to have that as the low-hanging fruit that that that that applies to this. [1:31:57, 1:32:17]: right here right now and then the other streets that that are desired by this council to to formulate that list. I would like for that to happen right now. I don't I I I see a direct need right now of important, but I do believe that each council member has streets in area that we want to see lit up better. [1:32:17, 1:32:25]: in in in in different community our communities. But I think as a t as a whole that we represent downtown, I think that that needs to be on the [1:32:26, 1:32:45]: Yes, I will get with uh Mr. Cobb with George Carr tomorrow. I'll contact him d so that we can go ahead and have an assessment done in those those locations. Mayor Ford. Okay, back to you, sir, Mayor Ford. I'd like to still add Mr Alexander's uh street to my motion. If you just give me the name of the street, Mr. Alexander. [1:32:46, 1:33:05]: Uh from Love Street uh on down to um what's that? Jim Walker, which is on the other side of Rock. Jim Clark. Jim Clark. Love Street to Jim Clark. Clark. Mm-hmm. Okay. Um Mayor Ford and Council. I I motion [1:33:06, 1:33:07]: To add to the list. [1:33:09, 1:33:10]: Tash Street [1:33:10, 1:33:12]: To Child Street. [1:33:13, 1:33:14]: From Walker Street [1:33:15, 1:33:21]: I'm sorry, from Wilson Street to Walker Street and from Love Street to Clark Street. [1:33:22, 1:33:29]: Is there a second to the motion? I second. Ms. Ganttz second that any further discussion? Okay. I just want to say that. [1:33:30, 1:33:34]: For the sake of what it's gonna cost to do this. [1:33:35, 1:33:49]: Because remember I told you all before, when we set a precedent to do something, that precedence is for everyone and not just a certain particular area or a particular person. So when we come up with these streets. [1:33:49, 1:34:07]: Those things, there's no reason not to add them. That's why I wanted all the streets that we identified to be added at one time. But I I wanted this downtown district to be added now, which is an immediate need right now to be added because we have development for downtown. [1:34:08, 1:34:27]: All right. Any other comments? Motion has been made been seconded. Another comment. Yes, sir. I just had a question. Question. Um Ms. Aaron, once the lights are up, whose job is it to maintain those lights? Georgia Power will maintain the lights. They'll upgrade the lights when they need to be upgraded. The only thing the city pays for is the electrical cost. [1:34:28, 1:34:43]: So lights that are in subdivisions that are on the street roads, uh those those lights are the responsibility of the city as well. I mean of Georgia Power? Yes, they are. So if the light if trees are blocking the light, who's responsible? Georgia Power doesn't do that. [1:34:43, 1:35:03]: You know, uh we have gone out and trimmed and Georgia Power said that's one of the things they do not do. But the city has gone out and trimmed around tr lights, street lights. Uh okay. Well I just ask cause we in in my community we have lights and you don't even know it's a light there because the trees have [1:35:03, 1:35:23]: cover the light pole. And so we can't it's dark in certain areas and certain neighbors. I mean our trees have caused a lot of problems at the houses, but the trees in general at that light post have outgro have grown over so many of our lights in the subdivision. [1:35:23, 1:35:33]: Just so you know. But other than I'll have the the guys when they come in early in the morning take a ride through the subdivision'cause they're usually here before it is light outside. [1:35:33, 1:35:36]: Well thank you s for doing an excellent job. Um [1:35:36, 1:35:40]: at being way ahead of the curve is you're talking about twenty twenty four. [1:35:40, 1:35:57]: And we are it sounds like we're on one accord. I agree that we start with our our downtown first, it's our heartbeat, our businesses. Um, but uh you know, I know it's an ongoing document, a live document, so to speak. But um I thank you guys for the hard work you guys are doing. [1:35:57, 1:35:59]: Thank you. Ms. Barber? [1:35:59, 1:36:07]: I wanted to ask, I thought that Henry County, are they also doing a street light assessment as well? [1:36:07, 1:36:09]: Not that I'm aware of. [1:36:10, 1:36:11]: I think they are. [1:36:12, 1:36:12]: Um [1:36:13, 1:36:14]: I think it would be [1:36:15, 1:36:17]: beneficial to check with them. [1:36:18, 1:36:19]: Um to see what streets [1:36:20, 1:36:24]: They are prioritizing as well. I think they are. I think I saw [1:36:25, 1:36:25]: Um [1:36:26, 1:36:28]: In their newsletter or something. [1:36:29, 1:36:36]: 'Cause uh Mr. Cobb and I we had some preliminary discussions. He had some discussions with Heron County as well about campground road. [1:36:37, 1:36:44]: Because that goes in and out of the city about street lights. So I know that's one road we were talking about. So [1:36:44, 1:36:45]: Okay. [1:36:45, 1:36:45]: Thank you. [1:36:47, 1:36:51]: All right. I guess that's all the discussion. Motion be made in a second. All in favor, please indicate. [1:36:52, 1:37:12]: NAMS decision. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Mm-hmm. All right. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. Can we um also add to this uh motion for staff to check with Henry County? I think they are with the motion's already made and voted on. We vote it what it is. The Gardner hears you, he'll just make a he'll check on. [1:37:12, 1:37:14]: Yeah. [1:37:15, 1:37:32]: All right, uh council consideration to approve the job description play and classification organizational chart of a main uh maintenance maintenance analysis position and budget amendment in the amount of seventeen thousand three hundred uh three hundred seven dollars and sixty-nine cents. [1:37:33, 1:37:34]: Mr Gardner, please. [1:37:39, 1:37:59]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um as I presented to you guys um the organizational chart um a few months a couple of a month back, uh my goal was to create a position that would help um move us forward in the in the area of uh technology implementation and software implementation, which will [1:37:59, 1:38:05]: will ultima automatically assist us with um streamlining the way we operate. [1:38:05, 1:38:08]: around our strategic plan and around uh [1:38:08, 1:38:28]: our management of of operations. And so this position would assist me and my department with doing just that. One of the things we talked about was looking at implementing open gov software and that would help us obviously look at our performance met create performance metrics and measure how we're attaining our goals and objectives. [1:38:28, 1:38:48]: but also benchmark us against how other communities are faring in the same area. And this position will do just that. Also assist us with obviously development of our fiscal year budget and changing our the way we operate our fiscal year budget in some of the areas that I want to see us move to. [1:38:48, 1:39:01]: um like priority-based budgeting, which is something that we instituted in the last community where I worked. So that was one of the reasons why. And the skill set is not available in the city at this time. So [1:39:02, 1:39:07]: I was asking if council would allow for the for me to advertise and hire somebody in this position. [1:39:08, 1:39:10]: Right, Meryl Tim. [1:39:11, 1:39:15]: The question is is this a executive session discussion? Personnel? [1:39:16, 1:39:17]: Yeah. [1:39:17, 1:39:35]: Because I I had a another issue that I wanna discuss in executive session uh on personnel. Um I I I believe it is. Because I mean there are some questions and some concerns. I I I just think it's it's a executive session discussion. [1:39:35, 1:39:53]: All right. Um yeah, I mean we can do that. We can poll we can d delay this and have this discussion in the second session if that's the need to come back out and make a decision if that's the will of the council here. I do have a question though. Um and and I just kinda kinda trying to understand this. Seventeen thousand three hundred seven sixty nine [1:39:53, 1:39:54]: Amendment amount to the budget. [1:39:55, 1:40:15]: But then also it's indicates something about 21,108. I'm not sure where this is, what's the difference here, what's going on. It says financial impact, 21,108.58 cents on the cover sheet. And of course, this position, I think the entry position, or the entry cost or salary for this position. [1:40:15, 1:40:17]: is highlighted here sixty six thousand. [1:40:17, 1:40:37]: Mayor Ford. Yes sir. This is one of the reasons why I think it should have been exactly. Okay, all right. I got it. I got it. I'm sorry, you got uh I got it, you're right. Yeah, that's a question. Yeah, uh okay. I g uh excuse me. Uh good good thing. All right. So I uh so council if you don't mind we we can go in the second session maybe talk about this a little further and make it. [1:40:37, 1:40:47]: One one second one second. Let me let me fin let me finish. And and potentially go in the second session and talk about this and and uh then come back out with a uh with a decision. Do I need to get a motion on that? [1:40:48, 1:41:08]: Do I do I need to make a motion? Well you you can well that's true. Uh probably a motion is probably the best thing to do. It'd be the safe way to do this in this aspect and and then come back out after the second session and talk and and give a decision if we need to do that. So go ahead, sir. If that being the case, Mayor, I I'm a motion that we uh table [1:41:09, 1:41:13]: I don't know, table this discussion for executive session. [1:41:13, 1:41:18]: Is there a second the motion? Ms. Plot second that any further discussion? [1:41:18, 1:41:20]: Yes. Um can we [1:41:21, 1:41:25]: I support as tabling item number eight, but I suggest that we [1:41:26, 1:41:30]: Handle item number nine before we go into executive session. [1:41:30, 1:41:38]: Oh we will. We we will. Okay. That's right. So all all in favor of the motion, please indicate? Okay. Now she says. Okay, so we'll talk about [1:41:40, 1:41:41]: Ms. Gardner? [1:41:41, 1:41:55]: We're gonna talk about this executive session. All right, and then we'll come back out. All right. All right, uh so on that note, number nine, council of consideration to approve intergovernmental IGA uh New World Public Safety System Software with Henry County. [1:41:56, 1:41:58]: And it says presented by Mr Washington. [1:41:59, 1:42:01]: So Mr Gardner, can you handle this since Mr Watson is not here? [1:42:10, 1:42:11]: Yeah, absolutely. [1:42:12, 1:42:15]: Mm. We don't have an attorney. Uh no, sir, we do not. [1:42:17, 1:42:37]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um I'm gonna address this issue in the absence of Mr. Washington. I want to let y'all know that we had been in conversation with Mr. Washington. Our attorneys had reviewed this uh IGA and approved that. Uh this has already been approved by the Henry County Board of Commissions. Our police department is currently using [1:42:36, 1:42:52]: Using Tyler technology for our commute computer automated dispatching and our report management system. This system is in operation in all cities within Henry County so that we have a unified uh reporting system and that we're all on the same uh platform. [1:42:53, 1:43:13]: Henry County purchased this platform on the behalf of all agencies within the county, which have saved us uh hundreds of thousands of dollars in the initial implementation of this. What this IGA does is it now um makes the various city users of this platform responsible for. [1:43:13, 1:43:30]: A portion of the annual maintenance agreement. So there's an ongoing annual cost for this system, a maintenance agreement, and it's divided based upon the uh city's usage of that system. This um [1:43:31, 1:43:42]: Annual agreements in the ballpark of about a hundred thousand dollars of the financial impact of this for us, we use about twenty four we're about twenty-four percent of the overall uh calls for service for the county. [1:43:42, 1:44:01]: So this upcoming budget cycle, our projection for the annual renewal agreement is twenty-four thousand two hundred and seventeen dollars. And moving forward yearly, it would be estimated this would be our annual uh operating cost for the maintenance of that system. [1:44:03, 1:44:14]: Uh uh Chief, then this this uh uh uh budget amount comes out of your your uh police department, I guess it is, or or what's of our operating budget. Our operating budget. Okay. All right. Oh yeah, go ahead, sir, please. [1:44:15, 1:44:32]: Uh, Chief, how you doing? So th this system has already been purchased and and is already systematic throughout the county and all the in in uh is all the cities and then the other cities like the McDonald, Locus Grove, and Hampton, are they also doing it like we're doing it, be paying a portion? [1:44:32, 1:44:44]: Yes, sir. So this IGA has been presented to all the cities within Henry County that'll be on this platform. They'll be responsible for a portion of their usage for the annual maintenance agreement. Thank you. [1:44:45, 1:44:57]: Any other questions, Council? If not, I need a motion to accept this proposal. So is there a second? Okay, Alexander to uh uh Ms. Barber, no further discussion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:44:58, 1:45:01]: Okay, you now it's decision. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. [1:45:01, 1:45:10]: All right, uh, so what's next are my comments. Um as as you well know, ladies and gentlemen, we still have a uh we still have a pandemic going on. [1:45:10, 1:45:30]: And so we once again the Henry County Health Department at 135 Henry Parkway will give you a Pfizer and Mederma vaccination vaccination Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 1130 a.m. or 1 p.m. to 230 p.m. And that number to make an appointment is 470-664-0005. [1:45:30, 1:45:50]: And of course there's free testing the Red Hawk Field, also located on uh Henry Parkway, right down the street from the public health department. That's Monday to Wednesday, Monday, Wednesday, excuse me, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. And of course the CDC does recommend that uh everybody receive a second booster. Now mind you, uh shots and boot and boosters and [1:45:49, 1:46:09]: Vaccinations, uh, testing can be done in m multiple places in the county, in the in the metro area. So you just don't have those locations. But I want to mention uh the Henry County Health Department and where you can get those things taken care of in this aspect. Um and just so you know, for so far since this pandemic, uh in Henry County, there's been uh fifty-two thousand. [1:46:09, 1:46:13]: [6373.9, 6388.9]: And also in the county there've been six hundred and forty seven confirmed deaths and two thousand six hundred and fifty nine individuals have been h hospitalized uh due to this pandemic um of COVID nineteen. Now granted I just wanted I got that off the public health department's uh [1:46:29, 1:46:35]: uh website there. And also the unfortunately what's happening in our community is the monkeypox. [1:46:35, 1:46:38]: So this is once again from the Department of Public Health. [1:46:38, 1:46:48]: There so far have been 1,240 cases of monkeypox uh in Georgia, and 98% of these cases are men. [1:46:49, 1:46:53]: Seventy-nine percent of the cases are African American. [1:46:53, 1:46:54]: Individuals. [1:46:55, 1:46:59]: thirteen percent uh Caucasians and seven percent Hispanic. [1:46:59, 1:47:04]: But believe it or not, even those are one thousand two hundred and forty ca uh actual cases. [1:47:04, 1:47:22]: There have been sixteen thousand four hundred and sixty seven people have actually got a for a first dose against the monkey pox, and another f one thousand seventy nine people have had a second c uh uh dose against the monkey pox. So they're they're trying to get this out there and and get uh vaccinated so you don't get this uh particular [1:47:22, 1:47:24]: obviously this particular virus. [1:47:24, 1:47:26]: And look good another good news story. [1:47:26, 1:47:28]: Very proud, I know you heard of this before. [1:47:29, 1:47:33]: But Stockbridge is on, Stockbridge High School is on Michael Harris the second. [1:47:33, 1:47:40]: What a fantastic guy. Never met him. Uh but yet of course he's a seventy two million seventy two million dollar man. [1:47:41, 1:48:01]: He just got his contract with the Braves and extend out to the twenty twenty uh twenty thirty excuse me season. And uh obviously as a young kid growing up in Stockbridge area, uh the Braves were his his team and now he's actually got a a dream here. He's playing for the playing for the Braves and doing well. All right. And hopefully it's my choice and maybe [1:48:01, 1:48:21]: Many of yours choice is being a national least rookie of the year, so hopefully he'll get that honor. But Michael Harris, congratulations to him, and we'll have to get him here in City Hall sometime. I'll have to be in the off-season, though, in this aspect to uh come here and be introduced to everybody publicly. And uh of course, this coming weekend uh is Labor Day, so make sure you [1:48:21, 1:48:31]: You're safe. Have a good time with your family and friends and relatives and enjoy yourself this weekend. Alright, let's move on to some announcements and uh upcoming events. [1:48:32, 1:48:52]: And so council meetings, of course, will be held in the city council chambers. Meeting dates, location, times are subject to change. And of course, please visit the city's website at WW City of Stockbridge.com for the meeting invitation. And we'll be on Facebook, also be on the Facebook page when contact the city hall offices at 770-389-7200. [1:48:52, 1:49:12]: 7900 for any type of updates. City Council meetings are of course the second Monday of each month. Next city council meeting in the chamber will be September 12th. Main Street Advisory Board meeting is the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. And right here in the city hall in the Levi Conference Room on that September 9th. Youth Council meeting is 5 30. [1:49:12, 1:49:32]: second Wednesday of each month in in the Levi meeting room right here in City Hall September 14th. The Downtown Development Authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month on September 20th. The youth council advisory committee meeting is 6 30, third Tuesday of each month in the Levi Conference Room. [1:49:32, 1:49:52]: uh also on September twentieth. The planning commission meeting fourth Thursday at six thirty PM in the city council chambers um and that's September twenty second and the next city council work sessions Tuesday, six PM City Hall Council Chambers and that'll be September twenty seventh. Upcoming events of course we have a continuous salute to veterans, please [1:49:51, 1:50:11]: Forward pictures of veterans include name, branch, rank, and years of service in Meripro Tim Thomas. They present a special tribute to a local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Miss Rosalind Rawls at R. Rawls at the city stopbridge-g-a dot g-ov. And of course, veterans, thank you for your service. Join Councilwoman Barber for a free Zoom on. [1:50:11, 1:50:17]: on every Saturday morning at Clark Park, 8 a.m. Come out for fitness in the park. [1:50:18, 1:50:28]: And uh you can join me, even though I invited all the cler local clergy, to a clergy round table uh roundtable meeting Tuesday, September sixth at six thirty PM right here in the City Hall in the Levi Conference Room. [1:50:29, 1:50:49]: City Stockbridge, of course, will also uh host this next Annex Town Hall meeting. And uh that's going to be online. It's gonna be virtual uh September 8th, 630, by way of Zoom. And so tune in and learn about the facts about the annexation referendum, neighborhoods and the proposed area benefits of Stockbridge Annex. [1:50:49, 1:50:51]: [6652.3, 6672.3]: Join us at the city's annual remembrance, nine eleven remembrance commemor uh remembrance ceremony, excuse me. Uh as we observed the anniversary of September eleventh, uh, twenty twenty one uh twenty oh one attack. So this is the twenty first year, which took place in New York, Washington, DC, Shainsfield, Pennsylvania, where over a total of two thousand seven hundred and fifty three people [1:51:12, 1:51:32]: With uh civilians and soldiers and military personnel died. We'll also honor all those who responded to the attacks. Their sacrifice will never be forgotten. The ceremony will take place on the steps of City Hall beginning at 8:30 a.m. Please note that there will be temporary roads closings in the area. Main Street will be also hosting a second summer. [1:51:32, 1:51:52]: Movie on the lawn featuring Spider-Man. The fun starts at 7 p.m. So bringing along chairs and blankets. And by the way, then the date has yet to be announced, but it's coming soon. Bridge Fest is back. Outstanding. Are you ready for the day filled with family fun, great uh festive atmosphere, delicious food trucks, entertainment featuring the public. [1:51:52, 1:52:11]: Parliament Funkadelic. By the way, this concert is free. And so you don't need to take it for it. Just walk on in, right? Join us on Saturday, September 24th at the Stockbridge Amphitheater for all the activities beginning at 2 p.m. And contact our event staff or vet for vendor information at 770-389-5982. [1:52:12, 1:52:29]: And you have an opportunity to meet the mayor and voice your questions and concerns on Monday, September 26th, 10 a.m. to two uh to noon. And that's in person in my office. So you contact Rosin Rawls to schedule an appointment at 770-389-7900-stension 248. [1:52:29, 1:52:41]: And the city will also sponsor a um will host, excuse me, host an in-person annexation town hall meeting Thursday, September 29th at 6.30 p.m. at the Monart Village Clubhouse, 240 Monart Village Way. [1:52:41, 1:52:51]: Stockbridge, right? Come on out and learn about the facts about the annexation referendum, neighborhoods in the proposed area, benefits of Stockbridge annexation and proposed council districts. [1:52:51, 1:52:56]: Upcoming concerts, U B forty, the original Wailers, Maxi Priest and Big Mountain. [1:52:56, 1:53:00]: Friday. This coming Friday, September second, so start off with Labor Day weekend. [1:53:01, 1:53:10]: And with us at the Amphitheater. Okay. And then of course um T A and Waka Flocca and them franchise boys uh Friday, September uh sixteenth. [1:53:10, 1:53:22]: And then we have, of course, Uncle Charlie Wilson, October 14th. And maybe we might get a chance, just maybe, if we sell out the first show, maybe we can get a second show, ladies and gentlemen. So see if we can do that, right? [1:53:22, 1:53:25]: Key Sweat is October twenty ninth. [1:53:25, 1:53:45]: Let's get that going as well. Let's see if we can sell that out real quick as well, right? And let's see here what else we have. We got um we got a Hispanic Fest, uh, which is the first time we had since 2018. And part of uh screaming, Hispanic Fest will be the Sausa Fest, which we have for uh five different uh individuals. [1:53:45, 1:54:05]: individuals, international and national salsa performers at the Ambath Theater. Uh this be October first at three PM and actually there's a charge for this. Uh you have to go on Event Bright, it's thirty five dollars per person. And this is done with the Georgia Hispanic uh Alliance here in in uh in the area. And so and uh let's see what else we have. That one should be [1:54:05, 1:54:12]: it at this point. Uh so council, I need a motion to move into the second session, please. [1:54:13, 1:54:14]: Is there a second? [1:54:15, 1:54:15]: I've been here. [1:54:16, 1:54:21]: Yep. We need to move into the executive session for personal real estate and litigation. Okay. [1:54:22, 1:54:29]: Okay, so I'll give that to Ms. Gat, and you second that, Miss uh second that okay, m uh okay. Mr. Protein's second, all uh all in favor, please indicate. [1:54:30, 1:54:32]: Okay, there's an ammo as the season. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back. [1:54:33, 1:54:34]: In a little bit. [1:55:09, 1:55:16]: Thanks Chief. I got the jersey. Hey, y'all part of the team now. Love it. [1:55:19, 1:55:20]: Okay. [1:55:36, 1:55:37]: Shake the microphone. [1:55:46, 1:55:47]: It is up and off. [1:55:55, 1:55:58]: Yeah, it was two. [1:56:18, 1:56:22]: Kind of put the message out here to just pause the meetings. [1:56:26, 1:56:30]: King was in some. [1:56:35, 1:56:46]: All right, stand by okay, great. All right, council, uh I need a motion to end the executive session, please. Someone. Okay, Ms. Mar Barber, is there a second? Mayor Protence second that. [1:56:47, 1:57:00]: I need now a motion to reconvene our uh council work session. Mr. Blount? Was that uh Ms uh Merpo Tem? And Miss Barber second that. Okay. And uh all in favor, please indicate. [1:57:01, 1:57:13]: Okay, there's an anonymous decision on that as well. All right. So what we're gonna do now is that we're gonna bring back to the uh from the table we table the item number eight. And we're gonna bring it back, read it in the motion and make uh read it and then make a motion uh for this uh item. [1:57:14, 1:57:30]: It was council consideration to approve the job description pay classification organizational chart for a management analyst position and budget amendment in amount of seventeen thousand three hundred and seven dollars and sixty nine cents. Funding source was fund balanced and it was presented earlier by Mr. Gardner. [1:57:30, 1:57:36]: Okay. That is that's the item on the on the table. All right. Did you have anything to add before we uh make this motion, sir? [1:57:37, 1:57:40]: All right. So council, I need a motion to approve, please. [1:57:40, 1:57:43]: Um Mr. Blount. So move that. Is there a second? [1:57:43, 1:57:48]: Second. Okay, m uh Mr. Alzheimer's second. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [1:57:49, 1:57:50]: I got four. [1:57:51, 1:58:10]: Five. You you're in agreement? That's our same unanimous decision. Unanimous decision on that note. Okay, fantastic. Now I need to congratulations to that manless management analyst, whoever that would be in the future. And on that note, there's no further discussion or no further items, so I need a motion to end our council meeting. So moved. [1:58:12, 1:58:20]: Okay. Is uh Mr uh Mary Brotem and Mr Blount you second that? Okay, all favor please indicate. Good night, folks. We'll see you next week. Later.

--- title: Planning Commission date: 2022-08-25 source: 2022-08-25_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:05:13, 0:05:20]: Planning commission will come into session. Uh a few statements I need to make before we get started. [0:05:30, 0:05:39]: I want to first of all welcome you to the Stock Bridge Planning Commission meeting. I'm the Chairman of Askev Dullah, the Chairman of the Planning Commission. The other members of the Planning Commission are Kathleen Nelson. [0:05:39, 0:05:41]: Miss Nelson is not presently here. [0:05:42, 0:05:45]: Uh she's a vice chair. Stanley Doom is [0:05:45, 0:05:52]: To my far right, Harold Tivolo to my left, Mr. David Plashon to my far right, and Mr. Rodney Horn to my immediate right. [0:05:54, 0:06:01]: The staff members are Miss Becca Carter, Community Development Director, Ryan Anderson, Chief Planner, and List Ms. Linda Logan, Senior Planner. [0:06:02, 0:06:08]: The few protocol items I'd like to make you aware of before we start the meeting, please listen closely. [0:06:08, 0:06:10]: On how tonight tonight's meeting will be conducted. [0:06:11, 0:06:23]: Keep your comments and presentation on a professional level, dealing with the facts that are important to this commission to make its decision. We will not accept comments that are considered by the chair to be personal attacks on any individual or group of individuals. [0:06:24, 0:06:30]: You receive a warning from the chair if you deviate from this requirement. The second deviation will result in a request [0:06:30, 0:06:33]: For you to leave the meeting and the premises for the evening. [0:06:33, 0:06:36]: Refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. [0:06:37, 0:06:44]: Only one person may will be talking at a time and all comments will be made at the podium after the speaker has been recognized by the chair. [0:06:45, 0:06:50]: Please direct all comments to the chair and the commission, not to the audience or the staff. [0:06:50, 0:07:02]: Please do not applaud or react to speaker speakers, speak from the audience, cheer, carry on a conversation with others in the audience, or disrupt the order at this meeting in any way. [0:07:03, 0:07:15]: Be aware that these hearings are not a debate or an opportunity to ask questions which must be answered by any individual tonight, but are merely op merely an opportunity to present information to the Commission. [0:07:16, 0:07:19]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. [0:07:20, 0:07:24]: The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time or her speaking time as rebuttal. [0:07:25, 0:07:32]: and may speak next and last, and may use the entire ten minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. [0:07:32, 0:07:35]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak longer than five minutes. [0:07:37, 0:07:40]: If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, I ask that you [0:07:41, 0:07:44]: Either power them off or put them into a silent mode. [0:07:45, 0:08:05]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight, please f fill out a form available on the table front and hand this hand to the staff before approaching the podium. After each case is called, we will hear the next from the city, we will hear next from the city staff, and then we'll hear from the applicant or their representative about what their plans are for the property, along with any. [0:08:05, 0:08:13]: Any other relevant information you wish to present. The Commission members will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote on a project. [0:08:13, 0:08:23]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak for or against the project or just ask questions will have an opportunity to do so. Each side is restricted to [0:08:23, 0:08:33]: uh ten minutes max and if that would be the maximum. Or time may be waived at the discretion of the presiding official. If questions are raised, [0:08:33, 0:08:46]: We may ask the applicant to speak again afterwards. We will call for a motion, a second, and have any necessary discussion. And if the matter is not tabled, we will vote to recommend approval or denial of the application. [0:08:46, 0:08:50]: This commission is only a recommending body. The item will be heard by [0:08:50, 0:08:54]: The mayor and city council, whether we recommend approval or or recommend denial. [0:08:55, 0:09:04]: Unless tabled, these items will be heard by the city's mayor and council at their next meeting, which is Monday, september twelfth, and voted upon by them at that meet at their meeting. [0:09:07, 0:09:20]: We would first address the agenda today. Uh first of all, uh Miss Logan would well, I asked Mr. Doomas to do an invocation. [0:09:23, 0:09:25]: Let us bow our heads, please. [0:09:26, 0:09:46]: Loving God, as we gather together tonight in this hallowed chamber, we invite your spirit into this environment, God, and we ask that you would allow us your spirit to rule our hearts, to guide our thoughts, and to control our lives, and that we may continue to be servants of all. [0:09:46, 0:09:47]: Amen. [0:09:48, 0:09:49]: Amen. [0:09:50, 0:09:53]: Plate of allegiance, stand up and please the play. [0:09:55, 0:10:06]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic of which it stands one nation, under God, individual, with liberties and justice for all. [0:10:09, 0:10:12]: Ms. Logan, would you provide us with a roll call? [0:10:15, 0:10:17]: Askia Abdul. Present. [0:10:18, 0:10:20]: Kathleen Nelson. [0:10:21, 0:10:23]: Stanley Dumas? Present. [0:10:24, 0:10:25]: Harold Thibodeau? [0:10:25, 0:10:26]: Present. [0:10:27, 0:10:28]: David Planchon. [0:10:30, 0:10:32]: Rodney Horns. Present. [0:10:33, 0:10:34]: Chairman, we have a quorum. [0:10:34, 0:10:35]: Thank you. [0:10:37, 0:10:40]: May I have a motion for for the adoption of the agenda today. [0:10:42, 0:10:47]: Mr. Chairman, I move that we adopt the agenda as then provided to us. [0:10:48, 0:10:49]: Second. [0:10:50, 0:11:02]: It's been moved by Mr. De Mr. Stanley Dumas and second by Mr. Rodney Horns. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed, hearing none, the ayes have it. The agenda is adopted. [0:11:04, 0:11:12]: I would ask for commission members to review the last meeting members uh minutes and ask for a motion to approve those minutes. [0:11:14, 0:11:15]: Got agenda, I'm sorry. [0:11:24, 0:11:25]: last meeting it's [0:11:26, 0:11:26]: Second. [0:11:27, 0:11:30]: It's been moved by Mr. David Plashon. [0:11:31, 0:11:38]: And it's been seconded by Mr. Stanley Doomitz. All those in favors let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Those opposed, the ayes have it. [0:11:38, 0:11:42]: The uh prior meeting amendments have been adopted to [0:12:01, 0:12:03]: This evening we have uh [0:12:03, 0:12:05]: Eight cases. [0:12:06, 0:12:07]: uh for three projects. [0:12:09, 0:12:25]: Uh the commission members have all received copies of that. Um those public those those hearings, those cases and projects. The first case on the agenda is uh annexation case, AX twenty twenty two oh one. [0:12:32, 0:12:35]: Chairman Abula, if you wouldn't mind reading the case into the record. [0:12:38, 0:12:48]: The City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge Mayor and City Council will hear an annexation request by S three capital investments LLC. The applicant represented by the battle law. [0:12:48, 0:12:56]: PC, the agent to annex a parcel as described below and then to the stockbridge city limits from the unincorporated Henry County. [0:12:56, 0:13:00]: In order to allow the parcel to be combined with an adjacent parcel. [0:13:00, 0:13:02]: For an age restricted [0:13:02, 0:13:03]: Residential development. [0:13:05, 0:13:08]: The uh parcel number described as O seven one. [0:13:09, 0:13:10]: O one, O three. [0:13:10, 0:13:12]: four zero one two. [0:13:12, 0:13:32]: Subject property is in unincorporated Henry County with footage, frontage, I'm sorry, on Highway 42 North across from the Summit View Drive, currently zone M2, which is a mixed use, with a land use designation of mixed use, contains 20.0 plus or minus acres located at land lot. [0:13:32, 0:13:34]: thirty one of district seven. [0:13:36, 0:13:43]: This case was deferred from the July twenty eighth planning commission meeting. Staff will now present the item. [0:13:45, 0:13:54]: First the staff will present the item and two the uh applicant will come forward and state their names and addresses for the record. Tell us what you intend to do with this property. [0:13:55, 0:14:00]: Are there any questions from the if there are any questions from the board, is there anyone who would like to speak? [0:14:00, 0:14:04]: In favor to the pro of of the project, ask questions or make other comments. [0:14:05, 0:14:07]: Please come forward and tell us your name, address. [0:14:08, 0:14:18]: And if there anyone would like to speak other than in fa anyone would like to speak other than in favor of the project, please come forward and tell us about it. So the applicant. [0:14:19, 0:14:35]: So chairman, at this time, um staff will make the presentation um and then the applicant will come up and and do their presentation as well. Don't leave that all until after she presents. Okay. So stop after you say staff. Okay. [0:14:36, 0:14:38]: Good evening, board members. [0:14:38, 0:14:39]: And stab. [0:14:43, 0:14:48]: Hope this stays on. Good evening, board members, staff and citizens. [0:14:51, 0:15:00]: This is a presentation for the first case for Southern Crescent Development AX 2022. [0:15:02, 0:15:12]: Um this is application for an annexation of um one parcel currently located in Henry County. Applicant would like to bring that into the city. [0:15:13, 0:15:15]: Here is um aerial photograph. [0:15:16, 0:15:21]: Of the subject property we have highway forty two north is the main road here. [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: Mm-hmm. [0:15:23, 0:15:27]: Uh parcel O seven one O one O three four O one two [0:15:27, 0:15:32]: The address is twenty-one twenty-five Highway 42 North has about twenty acres. [0:15:34, 0:15:45]: Um so the applicant would like to uh bring that into the city. Um some of this is the same information. Let's move on. We have a table here. They proposing to build an independent living [0:15:46, 0:15:47]: Age restricted. [0:15:47, 0:15:48]: Residential development. [0:15:49, 0:15:49]: Um [0:15:50, 0:15:53]: And currently it's in the county zone mixed use. [0:15:54, 0:15:57]: And also the land use designation is mixed use. [0:15:57, 0:16:06]: The surrounding land uses to the north is a vacant land and actually is a second parcel which they would hope to combine for the proposed development. [0:16:06, 0:16:13]: To the south and west we have the subdivision called Magnolia said equals landing subdivision. And then to the east, um [0:16:14, 0:16:20]: We have industrial warehouse, another subdivision highlands at Eagles Landing, and also Summit at Eagles Landing. [0:16:20, 0:16:22]: And a Thai restaurant. [0:16:24, 0:16:34]: Some additional findings. Um this was deferred case was deferred at the la July twenty eighth meeting. There are two companion applications which are listed on tonight's agenda. [0:16:34, 0:16:37]: Um so the applicant has also applied for comprehensive [0:16:38, 0:16:40]: Uh plan amendment. C P [0:16:40, 0:16:42]: Twenty, twenty two, oh two. [0:16:42, 0:16:46]: and a rezoning application RZ twenty twenty two oh two. [0:16:47, 0:16:47]: Um [0:16:48, 0:16:55]: And um now the applicant would uh need to combine t two if this is successfully annexed into the city. [0:16:55, 0:17:04]: Applicant would need to combine this parcel with the parcel to the north to uh be able to have land for their total proposed development. [0:17:04, 0:17:09]: There is a small stream in the center of the property. It's a tributary of Wolf Creek. [0:17:13, 0:17:15]: So the proposed development [0:17:16, 0:17:26]: The applicant has on the the track one is the subject of this application would uh there's an existing Southern Crescent Rehabilitation and Retirement Center. [0:17:27, 0:17:29]: They would keep that facility, continue operate. [0:17:30, 0:17:47]: Um in addition, uh applicant would build a hundred one hundred independent living units that would consist of seven detached, uh single family detached uh units and ninety three single family attached units. That would be a density of five units per acre approximately. [0:17:47, 0:17:48]: Um [0:17:49, 0:17:53]: And I'll just tell you about the second track to the north, um, if it would be combined. [0:17:53, 0:17:54]: Um [0:17:54, 0:18:10]: There would be another 176 independent living units and at a density of eight units per acre, total density six point six units per acre, which would be in the category of high density residential land use designation. [0:18:14, 0:18:26]: The um applicant site plan um show that there would have three accesses into the subject property. They would keep the one that's there already serving the existing uh facility. [0:18:27, 0:18:38]: And also the um technology parkway street, um it dead ends into the second parcel. Uh the applicant would add a new um [0:18:38, 0:18:40]: Access point. [0:18:40, 0:18:41]: in in the center of [0:18:42, 0:18:44]: Highway forty two north. Um [0:18:45, 0:18:46]: And cross over the stream. [0:18:47, 0:18:48]: This would be across from Glenmore Lane. [0:18:49, 0:19:00]: Amenities, uh each track would have his own amenities. So track one, the subject of the annexation, would add they would add a clubhouse, a pool, and a cabana. [0:19:00, 0:19:04]: At track two to the north, they would add pickleball courts, a pool, and a cabana. [0:19:05, 0:19:09]: Um there'd also be two detention ponds and an an a larger detention pond. [0:19:10, 0:19:12]: Um they [0:19:13, 0:19:17]: Architecturally that have the proposed homes would have pitched roofs, hardy flat. [0:19:18, 0:19:19]: Thank Ben Veneers. [0:19:19, 0:19:21]: And single car garages. [0:19:23, 0:19:24]: Here is a [0:19:24, 0:19:30]: drawing a boundary survey of the existing parcel and this shows this is highway forty two north here. [0:19:30, 0:19:33]: And right here is the existing uh facility. [0:19:33, 0:19:35]: uh re rehabilitation facility. [0:19:37, 0:19:44]: This is a Henry County zoning map. Um here again is a subje subject parcel that is to be annexed. [0:19:44, 0:19:49]: And then the second parcel right here is this uh irregular shape parcel. [0:19:49, 0:19:53]: would be the second one they'd hope to combine with for the total development project. [0:19:54, 0:19:55]: Uh-huh. [0:19:55, 0:19:58]: Henry County land use design map designation map. [0:19:59, 0:20:01]: The subject property here in a the lavender. [0:20:02, 0:20:04]: And um that it's mixed use. [0:20:06, 0:20:10]: Now here is the conceptual site plan. I know it's small, it's been reduced, but [0:20:11, 0:20:13]: Uh basically you have the existing facility here. [0:20:14, 0:20:15]: Some additional uh [0:20:16, 0:20:17]: Units to be built adjacent. [0:20:18, 0:20:21]: And then you have a f floodplain area where the creek is. [0:20:21, 0:20:24]: Uh then this is a new access that would be built here. [0:20:25, 0:20:30]: And a technology parkways here to the north, it dead ends into the other part of this second parcel. [0:20:30, 0:20:33]: Any additional units would be built in that area. [0:20:34, 0:20:39]: Here is a rendering of what the proposed units may look like. You see the pitched roofs. [0:20:39, 0:20:43]: single car garages and uh the facades. [0:20:46, 0:20:49]: We've perform analysis with uh different criteria. [0:20:50, 0:20:52]: I'll just briefly mention some of these. [0:20:52, 0:20:53]: They [0:20:54, 0:20:59]: subject parcel to be annexed is in fact adjacent with the Stockbridge city limits, so that [0:21:00, 0:21:01]: Uh qualifies. [0:21:01, 0:21:06]: А ездистин са ватар север сервис ава. [0:21:06, 0:21:08]: uh electricity provided by Georgia Power. [0:21:09, 0:21:14]: Uh police services they're currently provided by Henry County, but that would change to City of Stockbridge. [0:21:15, 0:21:15]: Um [0:21:17, 0:21:29]: Okay, again it's gonna be two hundred and seventy-six independent living units. Uh the property this parcels outside of the city, uh with a land use designation of mixed use and um [0:21:29, 0:21:30]: The [0:21:30, 0:21:35]: Parcel to the north has low density residential and light industrial designations. [0:21:35, 0:21:35]: Um [0:21:36, 0:21:39]: The applicant has submitted a comprehensive plan amendment. [0:21:39, 0:21:43]: uh to to change those to be compatible with proposed development. [0:21:44, 0:21:44]: Um [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: There is no [0:21:46, 0:21:47]: Common [0:21:47, 0:21:54]: adjacent zoning, but the applicant has sought a rezoning application to PUD planned unit development. [0:21:57, 0:22:01]: There are potential positive effects, uh, they'd maintain the existing center. [0:22:01, 0:22:07]: Uh many of the proposed units would not be visible from the main road, they'd be toward the rear. [0:22:07, 0:22:12]: Uh there may be some challenges in developing the site because of the creek and the floodplain areas. [0:22:12, 0:22:16]: Um there would be a it look like on the site plan a [0:22:17, 0:22:19]: Uh bridge crossing [0:22:19, 0:22:21]: I couldn't tell exactly or might go underneath. [0:22:22, 0:22:30]: Uh there's a letter from Henry County Water Authority uh which stated that although water and sewer lines are present on the site. [0:22:30, 0:22:36]: um the developer uh would have to uh relocate that, the eight inch sewer line. [0:22:36, 0:22:38]: And also install an easement. [0:22:39, 0:22:42]: Proposed tran are likely traffic of transportation impacts. [0:22:43, 0:22:50]: developer would have to coordinate with the Georgia DOT and uh Henry County DOT because this is state road, highway forty two north. [0:22:51, 0:22:54]: Regarding possible intersection improvements at technology parkway. [0:22:55, 0:22:55]: Um [0:22:56, 0:23:01]: And the the new entrance uh seems to be uh acceptable. [0:23:01, 0:23:03]: Although they should add a deceleration lane. [0:23:05, 0:23:10]: Uh there may be some challenges in the environmental impacts, as I mentioned a moment ago. [0:23:11, 0:23:22]: uh recommendation. Uh we say that the proposed annexation is reasonable uh in view of the following applicant plans to incl to include this parcel with adjacent parcel. [0:23:22, 0:23:23]: Proposed development. [0:23:24, 0:23:27]: uh compatible with surrounding land uses and conditions. [0:23:28, 0:23:31]: We feel that the analysis criteria are s basically satisfactory. [0:23:31, 0:23:34]: So we recommend approval of this proposed [0:23:34, 0:23:37]: annexation into Stockbridge city limits. [0:23:40, 0:23:42]: Are there any questions? [0:23:43, 0:23:47]: Ms. Logan, uh what's the minimum age requirement for these for this development? [0:23:47, 0:23:48]: Sorry. [0:23:48, 0:23:51]: Minimum age requirement, did you acquire that from the applicant? [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: I think it's fifty five plus. [0:23:53, 0:23:57]: Fifty five plus. Right. And uh what is the price point? [0:23:58, 0:24:00]: I'm not familiar with that. [0:24:01, 0:24:01]: Okay. [0:24:02, 0:24:06]: The applicant pro could probably answer those questions. Okay. Is the applicant present? [0:24:13, 0:24:14]: Yeah, right. [0:24:16, 0:24:21]: You're the applicant, sir? Yeah. Just asking this general question what would be the price point for the units? [0:24:24, 0:24:29]: Would you come to the to the uh podium? Uh provide us with your name. [0:24:32, 0:24:36]: Mr uh Chairman, is it okay for the apple to go ahead and and do their presentation as well? [0:24:37, 0:24:39]: That was just a question I had for Miss Logan. Go ahead. [0:24:40, 0:24:41]: Beh my carbon. [0:24:42, 0:24:53]: Okay, so here. We're done with this. I think you have your your presentation? I loaded it. You gonna make your presentation now? Yeah. Is that is that it? Yeah. Yes you can go ahead. [0:25:02, 0:25:04]: Um [0:25:17, 0:25:33]: Good evening, Michelle Battle with Battle Law here representing um the applicant um in connection with the proposed um annexation rezoning and comprehensive um plan change. One question I have before I start my presentation, are we taking all the applications at once? [0:25:34, 0:25:36]: We are not. This is only for the annexation. [0:25:36, 0:25:56]: Okay, because I don't want to be redundant. So I don't want to say the same thing three times. So I'm going to try and focus just on the annexation right now. What we know with regards to this property, um, which is again located off of Highway 42, is that um it is currently being utilized by Southern Crown. [0:25:56, 0:26:16]: Crescent TBI Center, which is an inpatient healthcare facility that's dedicated to providing medical and rehabilitation services for individuals who suffer from traumatic or acquire brain injury. This property was rezoned by Henry County not too long ago to [0:26:16, 0:26:24]: To allow for additional residential uses for seniors around the perimeter of the property. So the 20 acres right now. [0:26:25, 0:26:30]: does allow for um senior units to be developed on the site. [0:26:31, 0:26:51]: But when you look at the location um of the property and I'm gonna look back here again, um we are actually located within um or kind of surrounded by property that is in the city of Stonecrest. And I don't have let me see if I can go back to the staffs. [0:26:51, 0:26:55]: um presentation here. Hold on. [0:26:56, 0:26:57]: Bridge is it? [0:26:58, 0:27:12]: You mentioned Stone Crest, Michelle. Sorry I said Stone Crest, boy. I'm in two different places at one time today. Um at any rate, I can't pull back up the staff's um presentation, but um this property is surrounded by [0:27:12, 0:27:32]: Property located within the city of Stockbridge. And we know from the annexation package that the city has already put together that this is property that the city had actually anticipated trying to move into the city. It is in some ways almost like an island property and therefore. [0:27:32, 0:27:52]: For appropriate for annexation into the city. So that's the first issue that we have before us: is is this property appropriate for annexation? Regardless of the zoning issues surrounding it, what we know is that as an unincorporated island, it really needs to be in the city. And we are volunteering. [0:27:52, 0:28:12]: Voluntarily trying to come into the city versus the city seeking to complete its annexation process where you all have already published information stating that this property is property that the city wants to annex in. So I'm gonna kind of try and stick with that and answer. [0:28:12, 0:28:19]: any questions with regards to the annexation and come back and do the full presentation on the comp plan and the rezoning. [0:28:19, 0:28:39]: What I can tell you is that this will be a 55 and older community that we're seeking to develop on the site. We will be combining this with the additional property that's already located within the city. Um, and that will allow for a comprehensive pro um project under the MU zoning district. So um [0:28:39, 0:28:50]: We'll be happy to answer any questions with regards specifically to the annexation. Um, but I'll wait for my further comments on the rezoning and the comp plan, because I know you all have a long night tonight. [0:28:52, 0:28:53]: Any questions? [0:28:56, 0:29:00]: Oh oh what was the price point. Low three hundreds. [0:29:04, 0:29:24]: Mr. Chairman, may I? Sure. Uh you commented earlier, Miss Bell, and thank you for being here. Um that this particular parcel was slated to be annexed via the referendum that's gonna take place in November. Yes. But in my review of the proposed annexation [0:29:24, 0:29:25]: May up. [0:29:25, 0:29:27]: Unless I'm reading it incorrectly. [0:29:28, 0:29:31]: I'm not seeing this parcel, it's being part of that. [0:29:33, 0:29:53]: Uh yes, uh Mr. Doumas, the property is not slated for the um annexation for the referendum coming in on November 8th. This is just outside of it. Um so yes, you're correct in that. Just this portion that is being requested to be annexed, the piece that's currently there, um that's [0:29:53, 0:30:10]: in the city already, then we're we're good to go. But this particular piece, this additional twenty acres, is not showing as part of the annexation referendum coming up in November. So I just wanted to I don't I don't mean to misspeak, but I uh let me make sure I'm clear. [0:30:10, 0:30:23]: my understanding from a maybe I'm looking at the prior iteration of the annexation map. I thought there were like three or four different areas and that this wasn't a high priority area. There had been two iterations of [0:30:23, 0:30:43]: of this and the most recent is what was recently approved by the governor for us to bring before. Okay, so I apologize for that. Um the original one that I saw did have this property as one of the ones you all were looking to annex in. At any rate, um this property is surrounded by um property that is in the city of Stockbridge. [0:30:43, 0:31:03]: And we would like to bring it in to the city of Stockbridge. One of the main reasons too is because this is an integrated project. Our intent here is to have one total project and not multiple projects. And so I don't think I can get [0:31:03, 0:31:10]: back to my let me see if I can get back to where I was. [0:31:12, 0:31:13]: Oh. [0:31:15, 0:31:23]: I'm gonna ask for a little assistance because I can't seem to get back to that slide. If I can get back to where I was over there. [0:31:39, 0:31:59]: All right. So um when we're looking at the total project for the site, um you can see here that it is one large integrated site. And what we didn't want to have happen is to seek the rezoning on the portion that's already in the city and have to deal. [0:31:59, 0:32:15]: deal with differing jurisdictions with regards to police, fire safety, utilities, those types of things. We wanted all of the project into the city versus having it split between the city and the county. [0:32:15, 0:32:16]: Okay. [0:32:19, 0:32:23]: Okay. Mr. Chairman, I have another question, please. Sure. [0:32:23, 0:32:31]: Uh Miss Battle, uh I'm looking at an ex annexation request, a comprehensive plan amendment. [0:32:32, 0:32:38]: And a rezoning. Correct. And I'm curious to know but I would expect to see uh [0:32:39, 0:32:59]: A recombination request. So and it's not present. I'm curious as to know why. Okay. Um the property in the staff um has already indicated as one of the proposed conditions that be required to do the recombination, which is fine. Um the intent here was to combine the two. [0:32:59, 0:33:10]: But at the time that we submitted the application, there was no indication that we had to do it at that time. But the staff has made that a condition of any approval, and we're fine with that. [0:33:11, 0:33:12]: Thank you. [0:33:12, 0:33:32]: Um again if you all like me to do the full presentation, I can go ahead and do that. I just don't want to be redundant. If I say it now, I don't want to have to say it. I didn't want to have to say it again and again. Okay. Well look let me do this. Let me just let me just do my whole little my whole little moment and then I won't do it again three times. I don't just want to do it for you all three times. [0:33:32, 0:33:52]: Times. So Southern Crescent TBI Center again is a traumatic brain injury rehab facility. And what their goal is on this site is to provide quality senior housing within the city of Stockbridge that is second to none at affordable rates. The plan right now shows as [0:33:52, 0:34:12]: before you shows an age restricted community for 55 and older. You will have to be 55 and older to live on the site. You will not be able to have any children living on the site um if they don't meet the age of 55. So I guess if your older children are 55 and older, they can live with you. But if they are 51, uh they cannot. Um [0:34:12, 0:34:12]: Mm-hmm. [0:34:13, 0:34:33]: What we are intending to develop on the site is 224 townhome units and 52 single-family detached units. The project is integrated with the existing medical facility. There will be access, two access points off of 42, in addition to one access point off of technology. [0:34:33, 0:34:53]: Drive in the back. When you come into the facility, you will come in or to the community, should I say, you will go past the medical facility here in the front, and then you will proceed in to the townhome component of the community that's on the south side of the site. We'll cross [0:34:53, 0:35:01]: Cross over then the stream area into the single family detach section, which is located. Oh [0:35:01, 0:35:15]: It's not showing my little cursor there, but nonetheless. Um you cross over the stream and you're into the single family detach section. And then when you go to the back quadrant of the pri of the site, you're in the area. [0:35:16, 0:35:36]: um where the um other townhomes are located. There are multiple spots within the community for amenity areas. And when we look here, this is a little better view of the individual pods. Again, this is the first pod where the medical facility is at and the town [0:35:36, 0:35:37]: [2139.4, 2145.7]: Then you go into pod two, again where the single family detached units are located, the fifty-two detach units. [0:35:46, 0:35:50]: And then you're back over here where the town home units are located. [0:35:53, 0:36:09]: Um in terms of the site data, when we're looking at um the differentiation between what's in the city and what's outside of the city currently, we have roughly twenty acres um that's um currently located in unincorporated Henry County. That's the portion that we're trying to annex in. [0:36:09, 0:36:16]: Um and then the balance of the twenty two acres is currently located in the city of Stockbridge. [0:36:18, 0:36:38]: We've shown you the elevations. You can see that we actually are offering both one and two-car garage units. So all the units will not be one-car garage. There may be some seniors that are single that don't have a spouse and don't have a need for a two-car garage. There will be parking area in front of their unit. [0:36:38, 0:36:56]: unit, but there will also be two car garage units that will allow two parking spaces as well in front of the unit. You can see here that basically these units are one-story units with the possibility of a loft space above to the extent desired. [0:36:57, 0:37:17]: In terms of the amenity areas, um, they are located um primarily in the two areas that you can see here, one in that back quadrant, what I was calling pod three, um, where we have a cabana and an outdoor um pool area. And then we have the same um feature except um without the pool um on [0:37:17, 0:37:22]: um what would be the um pod one where the um [0:37:23, 0:37:25]: the medical facility is located. [0:37:26, 0:37:28]: In terms of the amenities for this project. [0:37:29, 0:37:49]: Again, we've got two community centers and clubhouses. They'll have a library, a small theater. They may have a community space. They will have a community space where they can have, for example, live music, maybe a little uh jazz quartet or something like that for the residents for entertainment purposes. Um, there'll be a meeting room space and a [0:37:49, 0:38:09]: business center in um the two community um clubhouse areas. There also will be uh heated indoor and outdoor swimming pools available on the site. There'll be walking trails, pickleball courts, a dog park. And this community will be really catered to seniors to reduce their kind of day-to-day [0:38:08, 0:38:28]: maintenance requirements. So 100% of the lawn care will be taken care of by the HOA and the HOA will own all of the amenity areas. There will be a mandatory homeowners association and the only the declarant will be allowed to rent any units on the site. So [0:38:28, 0:38:40]: So there will be zero ability of the residents to actually rent their units. To the extent that there are any units that become available for rent, it would only be rented through the declarant. [0:38:41, 0:38:50]: And then finally, um access to um medical services at the facility that is there would be available to um the residents at a fee. [0:38:54, 0:39:05]: These are some of the interior shots. We've got some that are roughly a little over 1500 square feet, some are a little over 1600 square feet. [0:39:06, 0:39:18]: They all come equipped with um living, you know, um living room spaces, um bedrooms, two bedrooms, um a kitchen, outdoor um seating areas as well. [0:39:25, 0:39:37]: And again, um the facilities, um the the buildings that will be uh developed on site will be a mixture of brick and um hardy plank siding. Um the average unit size will be um sixteen hundred square feet. There'll be [0:39:37, 0:39:57]: units that are two to three bedrooms and they will have um both one and two car garage options. Again, we've got the pools, the community centers, the library, the wellness center there at the existing facilities, the walking trail. And again the price points are in the low 300. [0:39:57, 0:39:59]: Um [0:39:59, 0:40:19]: If this project is approved, um, we would anticipate um the units going into um production by the end of 2023. And again, this will be a 55 and older age restricted community. And we're here to answer any questions that you may have. I would like to answer or you explain it for the benefit of the uh [0:40:19, 0:40:25]: [2426.2, 2446.2]: uh aspects. One the city can go and seek annexation or an individual who owns property can seek annexation to come into the city. Is that correct? That is and that's what this is a hundred percent um request by the owner to come into the city. Come into the city. I just wanted to make that clear for the audience. Yes. We are seeking to come in and come back [0:40:46, 0:40:51]: Combine this with the other property that is adjacent um for the entire forty two acres. [0:40:55, 0:40:56]: Any questions? [0:40:58, 0:41:02]: Are there any questions from the from uh go ahead. [0:41:03, 0:41:04]: And it's development where [0:41:05, 0:41:15]: This is going to be provided coming from Highway 42. Is that going to be a controlled intersection or not? Because you're going to have a four-way intersection there. [0:41:15, 0:41:20]: Also, if there are plans to put in the left left lane left turning lane. [0:41:20, 0:41:22]: Into the solidation rather than [0:41:23, 0:41:31]: As well as the B cell lane coming in opposite direction, because forty-two highways we all know are very heavily traveled. [0:41:31, 0:41:35]: highway and the people are waiting there to turn left to get into the subdivision. [0:41:36, 0:41:38]: So the development is going to cause a huge backup. [0:41:40, 0:41:50]: Understood. Um we have Steve Moore with Moore Bass, who's our engineer here with us um from the engineer company of Moore Bass here with us this evening and I'm gonna ask him to respond to those questions. [0:41:52, 0:42:12]: Happy to. Good evening. Um, the access to 42 will most likely end up being a right in, right out. Um, if only because the there's future plans that GDOT has for Highway 42 that's going to be barrier-separated lanes all the way from the square McDonough to 138. Um, and there [0:42:12, 0:42:32]: gonna restrict access points on 42. In the event that this project is uh approved and GDOT allows it prior to that project being done, it's highly likely that a left turn lane may be warranted. I believe there's probably a condition of maybe recommended condition of zoning that would include a traffic impact study where they would do that analysis and [0:42:31, 0:42:51]: calculate the number of trips to determine if it warrants that. Also GDOT has their own criteria that you have to meet before you can put a left turn lane in. But look definitely a decel lane uh deceleration, a right turn lane, that'll be required regardless. Um the question is just is going to be of a right in, right out, or will we have full access and that's going to be up to GDOT. They're the ones that will absolutely control. [0:42:51, 0:42:52]: [2577.1, 2577.7]: Yes, sir. [0:43:00, 0:43:03]: Oh yeah, we have to. We won't be able to build anything without their approval. Yes, sir. [0:43:08, 0:43:16]: And I guess I should have noted too that we do have the comp plan change. Um, and I'll talk about that I guess when that c gets called. [0:43:24, 0:43:28]: Is there anyone from the audience who would like to speak for or against the project? [0:43:30, 0:43:33]: Yes, sir. Would you approach the podium? Provides with your name and address. [0:43:36, 0:43:55]: Good evening. Thank you for allowing me to speak. My name's David Perry. I'm a lifelong resident of Henry County. Went to elementary school across the street, graduated from Stockbridge High School in 1978. I own businesses and property adjacent this proposed development, and I have serious concerns, especially about the northernmost. [0:43:55, 0:43:56]: Tracked. [0:43:57, 0:44:00]: Now my business has been in Henry County since nineteen ninety nine. [0:44:00, 0:44:07]: When we needed to expand and relocate in two thousand seven, I had to look for M one zone property. [0:44:07, 0:44:11]: light industrial which is what is appropriate for what we do [0:44:11, 0:44:31]: My primary company, Hydraulic Circuit Technology, manufactures and installs hydraulic systems on very large demolition and earth-moving machinery. We fabricate metal, we sandblast, we powder coat, we take delivery of excavators and other large machinery. This is an industrial environment. [0:44:31, 0:44:51]: uh and we've been there for 15 years. Now when I went shopping for property, I wanted to be in Henry County where my home is and um but there was very little property with the correct zoning so I was kind of limited in what I could find. So I really had to go shopping to find the appropriate piece of property. [0:44:51, 0:44:52]: Yeah. [0:44:53, 0:44:57]: А пай сортова преміум токені екс да перчат. [0:44:58, 0:44:59]: At that location. [0:44:59, 0:45:19]: And it's zoned M1. We like the name of the road, Technology Parkway, which is appropriate for our business, Hydraulic Circuit Technology. I put in a road at the end of Technology Parkway, public road, named it Fluid Drive, because my company's in the fluid drive industry. [0:45:19, 0:45:24]: We have every reason to think this is going to be industrial area. [0:45:24, 0:45:44]: And uh we've conducted business there in good times and bad now for 15 years. Our main building is a 40,000 square foot manufacturing facility where I employ 55 people, including company president and Henry County resident Mr. Nabeen Beliga, who's here with me tonight. And last year. [0:45:44, 0:46:04]: We completed construction of another 16,000 square foot building located at 225 Fluid Drive. They don't show that building on any of their drawings in the package that we received. But I have three lights there that are just to the north of this northernmost tract. [0:46:07, 0:46:25]: So the traffic, and I appreciate your questions about it, those are some of my questions about how the traffic will be handled. It's already terrible for for me and my employees to get out of technology parkway, especially those of us that need to turn north. Naveen and I had to do what we typically have to do. [0:46:26, 0:46:46]: Which is turn south on 42 and go down however far we have to to find somewhere we can turn around to go back north. And it's that way every afternoon because it's the overflow that I-75 can't handle. There were plans that I've seen many years ago where there was going to be a traffic light there, but I actually approached G DOT a couple of years. [0:46:45, 0:46:57]: couple of years ago when they were talking about their plans for Highway 42 and they they absolutely shot down the idea of putting a traffic signal there. [0:47:00, 0:47:20]: We are uh we have a McDonough address there and we are in unincorporated Henry County. Uh it would be a terrible burden on our business to have to change addresses. Prior to being at that McDonough location, we were in the Hudson 75 business park, which has a stockbridge address. Uh that was usually [0:47:20, 0:47:26]: Years ago, but it was a terrible problem for us to have to change all of our uh [0:47:27, 0:47:47]: all of our business materials t to a new address and especially to get our thousands of vendors and customers to change and to understand that we had moved. So that just that address change alone would be a terrible inconvenience for us. Um but if this development proceeds [0:47:47, 0:47:52]: the way it's designed, twenty five units of that high density housing [0:47:52, 0:48:04]: will back up to three of my commercial lots. And some of the machinery we operate's really loud. We often operate a second shift at night. Um [0:48:04, 0:48:10]: It's really just not appropriate for a high density residential. Um [0:48:11, 0:48:25]: Yeah, that's a pretty drastic change to go from light industrial to high density residential there. And uh I don't think we'd be happy and I don't think maybe the people that would be living there would be happy. [0:48:25, 0:48:26]: So um [0:48:28, 0:48:48]: We do have grave concerns about this. Um one of the things this annexation attempt will do is uh I think Miss Battle referred to the fact that it it's sort of an island there. My business will definitely be on an island, an unincorporated area in an island, which is mine. [0:48:48, 0:48:57]: understanding that's really not acceptable. Uh and and so I what I think is we might be forced into an annual. [0:48:57, 0:48:59]: I see. Okay, thank you so much. I appreciate it. [0:49:01, 0:49:02]: Thank you. [0:49:03, 0:49:04]: Is there anyone else who'd like to speak? [0:49:05, 0:49:06]: In opposition. [0:49:06, 0:49:07]: In opposition. [0:49:12, 0:49:19]: Hello, my name is Dion Roberts and I live in uh Lakes Barbie Country Club. Um just a few [0:49:20, 0:49:30]: weeks ago b I believe you guys just approved or not the same board but uh three hundred apart um townhomes and a hundred uh uh [0:49:30, 0:49:39]: Um I'm sorry, 300 apartments and a hundred townhomes right across the street, right there at that intersection. Wait a minute. I I are you speaking about this project here? [0:49:40, 0:49:48]: Yes. That's this pro yes. Is that the this the project that's right there on uh Spider Road on um 138? This is on 42. [0:49:49, 0:49:51]: Okay, I'm sorry. Well this is something different. I apologize. [0:49:52, 0:49:53]: Anyone else? [0:50:01, 0:50:05]: Is there anyone else like to speak pro or for or against the project? [0:50:07, 0:50:08]: I hearing none. [0:50:10, 0:50:15]: Um I have a motion regarding the application from the board, yeah. [0:50:20, 0:50:22]: I'd make a motion that [0:50:23, 0:50:30]: I make a motion that we review this project and decide how we wanna go with it. Um [0:50:32, 0:50:34]: that we approve this project. [0:50:34, 0:50:37]: That would be my motion. Second. [0:50:39, 0:50:42]: Mr. Chairman, may I question uh point of order? [0:50:43, 0:50:55]: Are we talking strictly just the annexation or are we voting on the entire project? At this point, we strictly speaking about the annexation. Uh that is the [0:50:55, 0:51:07]: The project cannot go forward without the annexation. And you can't get the rezoning, et cetera. So it's a step by step process. We approve the annexation, you make through the recombination, rezoning, etcetera. [0:51:08, 0:51:16]: So the motion that was the that's on the table is for the annexation. Only okay. And it's been second. [0:51:18, 0:51:30]: Okay. Uh Miss Ms. Logan, the uh motion has been uh provided by Mr. Tibodeau. It's been second by Mr. Doomis. All those in favor, let it be said. Pardon me? Mr Horn seconded. [0:51:30, 0:51:41]: I'm sorry, Mr. Horne seconded. Um all those in favor let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Those opposed, ayes have it. The annexation application is approved. [0:51:45, 0:51:48]: The second case is item CP twenty twenty two oh two. [0:51:49, 0:52:02]: So comprehensive plan amendment for case number CP 2022, the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge, Mayor and Council will hear a comprehensive plan amendment request by S3 Capital Investment LLC. [0:52:04, 0:52:06]: The applicant represented by the ballot PC, the agent. [0:52:07, 0:52:10]: To change the future land use designation of certain parcels [0:52:10, 0:52:17]: as I described below, from light industrial and mixed use to high density residential in order to allow an age restricted [0:52:17, 0:52:18]: Residential development. [0:52:21, 0:52:25]: The uh parcel is zero seven one. [0:52:25, 0:52:30]: Zero one zero three four zero one four located within the stockbridge city limits. [0:52:31, 0:52:35]: Which frontage on highway forty two and situated at the end of Technology Parkway. [0:52:35, 0:52:40]: African proposes to change the current land use designation from light industrial to high density residential. [0:52:41, 0:52:42]: Contains twenty two point one. [0:52:43, 0:52:46]: Plus or minus acres located in landlord thirty one district seven. [0:52:48, 0:52:50]: The other parcel is zero seven one zero [0:52:51, 0:52:53]: one zero three four oh one two. [0:52:54, 0:52:58]: Subject property is an unincorporated Henry County which frontage on Highway forty two. Excuse me. [0:52:59, 0:53:05]: Cross from Summit View Drive, applicant proposes to change the current county land use designation of mixed use. [0:53:05, 0:53:17]: to the s to to the city land use designation of high intensity residential after the parcel is annexed into Stockbridge city limits contains twenty plus or minus acres located land lot thirty thirty one. [0:53:18, 0:53:19]: of District Seven. [0:53:21, 0:53:22]: Staff would now present item two. [0:53:54, 0:54:01]: Okay. This is a co proposed comprehensive plan amendment again for the proposed Southern Crescent uh mixed [0:54:01, 0:54:02]: Residential development. [0:54:03, 0:54:05]: We have some of the same slides in here. [0:54:06, 0:54:07]: Um to [0:54:08, 0:54:08]: The [0:54:09, 0:54:12]: First track par tract one and then this is [0:54:13, 0:54:16]: Aerial photograph of track two to to the north, irregular shaped [0:54:17, 0:54:17]: Property. [0:54:18, 0:54:20]: It shows highway forty two here. [0:54:20, 0:54:26]: And technology parkway um dead ending in this at the end of the street here at this parcel. [0:54:29, 0:54:33]: So the applicant is requested to change a future land use designation. [0:54:34, 0:54:34]: Um [0:54:34, 0:54:38]: Of the parcels from light industrial and low [0:54:38, 0:54:46]: Density vertical mixed use and mixed use to high density residential. So you've got three different uh designations right now. [0:54:46, 0:54:47]: The um [0:54:47, 0:54:49]: parcel in the city as [0:54:50, 0:55:01]: mixed use and then the parcel in the parcel in the county to be annexed is mixed use and the parcel in the city low light industrial and low density vertical mixed use. So both parcels [0:55:01, 0:55:03]: Applicant wants to change to [0:55:03, 0:55:07]: High density residential. Okay. [0:55:08, 0:55:09]: Gone over some of this. [0:55:11, 0:55:12]: [3318.8, 3324.2]: Uh the the recombination of the two parcels uh would be needed as was discussed before. [0:55:28, 0:55:29]: Um [0:55:31, 0:55:33]: I'm not gonna go over all of this. [0:55:34, 0:55:35]: This is uh [0:55:36, 0:55:38]: Survey of the second parcel to the north. [0:55:38, 0:55:40]: Um you can see the regular shape there. [0:55:42, 0:55:47]: So again this is the um Henry County zoning map. It's zoned um [0:55:47, 0:55:48]: M U on the [0:55:49, 0:55:50]: Parcel to be annexed. [0:55:51, 0:55:53]: And then the parcel in the in the city. [0:55:54, 0:55:54]: Um [0:55:59, 0:56:02]: So in our analysis, um the [0:56:02, 0:56:10]: Proposed development is not consistent right now with the comprehensive uh plans, land use designations for the property, and that's of course the reason why. [0:56:10, 0:56:13]: applicant has applied for comprehensive plan [0:56:13, 0:56:14]: uh amendment. [0:56:14, 0:56:20]: Um the existing designations do not allow for the proposed uh residential development. [0:56:21, 0:56:21]: Um [0:56:23, 0:56:30]: So the track one would be uh changed uh from mixed use to uh PUD zoning. [0:56:31, 0:56:33]: And uh track two. [0:56:33, 0:56:37]: uh would be changed from office institutional and light industrial [0:56:37, 0:56:38]: again to PUD. [0:56:39, 0:56:48]: Um now of course there's no need to change a land use designations if the property is not also rezoned, which is the subject of our next application tonight. [0:56:50, 0:56:51]: We feel that the [0:56:52, 0:56:58]: Property is suitable. The s the site is suitable for the proposed high density land use designation because [0:56:59, 0:57:07]: Adjacent uh properties, uh existing subdivisions also have a land use designation of high density residential. [0:57:08, 0:57:08]: Um [0:57:09, 0:57:09]: And [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: The track one is already developed. [0:57:12, 0:57:13]: And um [0:57:14, 0:57:19]: uh track two additional industrial uses could be developed but because of the regular [0:57:19, 0:57:24]: shape of the property. Um, we feel that that is not not likely to happen. [0:57:31, 0:57:40]: So we recommend a conditional approval of this proposal, um, conditioned upon the recombination of the two parcels, and that could be handled. [0:57:41, 0:57:43]: administratively by the staff in the office. [0:57:45, 0:57:46]: This would require uh [0:57:47, 0:57:48]: applicant convinced to submit a [0:57:49, 0:57:50]: Official [0:57:50, 0:57:53]: Plat to be drawn by a surveyor or or engineer. [0:57:54, 0:57:55]: And that would then be [0:57:56, 0:57:59]: Recorded at Henry County Superior Court in the real estate division. [0:58:01, 0:58:05]: And so the uh property that's adjacent to it. [0:58:05, 0:58:06]: is already high density. [0:58:07, 0:58:08]: Residential. Is that what you're saying? [0:58:09, 0:58:11]: Uh to the south. To the south. Right. [0:58:12, 0:58:12]: All right. [0:58:17, 0:58:18]: Any questions from the board? [0:58:22, 0:58:24]: Mr. President, can I speak? [0:58:24, 0:58:25]: Sure, go ahead. [0:58:26, 0:58:33]: Uh Miss Logan on this property uh they also have an area of railroad tracks, uh [0:58:34, 0:58:39]: where this property is located. And also if he's having a um [0:58:40, 0:58:48]: commercial property next to it, uh are we looking at some type of sound barrier also for uh to uh put between those [0:58:49, 0:58:51]: Commercial property and residential. [0:58:51, 0:58:53]: Which commercial property? [0:58:54, 0:58:56]: I'd have to look at it on the map to show you. [0:58:58, 0:58:59]: The one to the north. [0:59:01, 0:59:09]: Hi his th that's correct, his three lots. Uh how far's the train tracks from your three lots, may I ask? Uh [0:59:12, 0:59:18]: See those those are some of the things that wasn't mentioned, uh, as far as that property is concerned. [0:59:18, 0:59:22]: And then also if if this property does get approved or it doesn't get approved. [0:59:23, 0:59:28]: Uh there still needs to be some form of sound barrier against the uh commercial property. [0:59:29, 0:59:39]: You you mean the industrial property that you Yes, the the industrial property, that's correct. Perhaps the applicant would like to speak to the site design and buffering and those issues. [0:59:43, 0:59:44]: Yeah, the applicant come forward. [0:59:45, 0:59:49]: Sorry. I see can you have the applicant come forward to address that? [0:59:49, 0:59:52]: Miss Battle, would you like to speak again? [1:00:26, 1:00:32]: Okay, sorry. I'm just trying to make sure I'm oriented to the property. On the property, yeah. [1:00:36, 1:00:38]: Ms. Battles, are you ready? Yes. [1:00:40, 1:00:48]: I was asking about a sound barrier for the uh commercial property or the industrial property, uh, for the area that you're trying to [1:00:49, 1:00:51]: Speak to us a mile. [1:00:51, 1:01:11]: So with regards to um um the issues that were raised, um we have not had an opportunity to speak with the adjacent property owner and certainly we we're more than happy to do so. Um we do we are providing a 30-foot buffer along the rear perimeter of the site um to the extent that we need to have conversation with [1:01:11, 1:01:31]: With our architect regarding sound walls and that type of thing on the project. We can certainly do that now that we have a little better feel for what is transpiring on the site. I can only tell you that Southern Crescent has been located in that particular location for the last 14 years, and they have not. [1:01:31, 1:01:49]: not experienced any issues over there. It may be the distance that they are from you all now, but they have not experienced any issues and therefore did not foresee any issues for the residents. Obviously they're very sensitive to that particular issue. And so we will definitely take that into consideration. [1:01:50, 1:01:50]: Good. [1:01:51, 1:01:52]: All right, thank you. [1:01:55, 1:01:57]: Any other questions? [1:02:06, 1:02:07]: Any other questions? [1:02:12, 1:02:18]: Uh anyone from the audience the uh would like to speak for or against the project? [1:02:19, 1:02:21]: Mobile speaker here. Sure. [1:02:27, 1:02:43]: I do feel that we were somewhat neglected in this. Somewhere in the package it mentions the necessity of perhaps providing fencing between their prop proposed project and the subdivision to the south, but our property to the north completely ignored. [1:02:43, 1:02:44]: Um [1:02:45, 1:02:47]: And uh I also want to mention about the [1:02:48, 1:03:08]: I'm I'm no attorney by any stretch. Uh but as far as the age restricted property, uh as I understand it, as long as one person in the home is over the age of fifty five, that's that's what the law requires and allows. So uh I don't think it's gonna be the case that these are all older people. [1:03:08, 1:03:14]: Um so I I think it might be mischaracterized a bit. Thank you. [1:03:17, 1:03:19]: I'd like to respond to that. [1:03:20, 1:03:20]: Mm. [1:03:23, 1:03:24]: Go ahead, Ms. Valley, you wanna address that? [1:03:25, 1:03:37]: Um yes. Um under the bylaws in the declaration we can restrict the property. I'm not sure um that he is aware that that is possible for us to restrict to fifty-five and older. Um and uh [1:03:38, 1:03:58]: You know, at the end of the day, we have a very clear picture of what it is that we're trying to achieve on this site. We recognize that he is concerned um about what may take place and the conflict between what he perceives as the conflict between the two. Um typically um high density residential next to light industrial is not um problematic. [1:03:58, 1:04:18]: You can see that in many spaces and places. Um, usually not a pure single family detach with um large lot development, but this is a smaller um townhome community, and so that is not unusual for those two to coexist. Staff has certainly looked at that issue. Um, we're not doing anything that's gonna impact. [1:04:18, 1:04:38]: His marketing of his property. His property will not be impacted in any way from an addressing perspective with his clients and the like. We're annexing our property in, which is not even a butting. The piece that we're butting, that we're annexing in doesn't [1:04:38, 1:04:52]: doesn't even but his property. Um it the property we have is already in the city of Stockbridge. So um I'm not sure where um that component of this came from. But we have no problem having some conversation and dialogue there. [1:04:53, 1:04:56]: Okay. Mr. Plot uh uh Mr. Plotin, you had a question? [1:04:59, 1:05:02]: Sir, would you approach the podium again? He has a question for you. [1:05:06, 1:05:10]: Just like you mentioned on the m maps that they show, they do not show [1:05:13, 1:05:14]: They show one of the two. [1:05:15, 1:05:15]: Yeah. [1:05:23, 1:05:37]: Uh their thirty foot buffer would would my parking lot would butt up against that in my building. Um they had a site plan up I don't I can't navigate this, but they had a site plan that uh [1:05:39, 1:05:45]: Yeah, I don't I don't think I'm gonna be very successful with this. Um [1:05:48, 1:05:51]: Oh uh yeah, I believe that is a thank you. [1:05:58, 1:06:04]: There it is. Is it possible to operate a cursor on that? [1:06:06, 1:06:12]: Is this still the same? That's it. No. That's that's what he wants there to slightly. No, the aerial photo. [1:06:14, 1:06:15]: Mm. [1:06:15, 1:06:21]: Your property happy. That's right. You can you can see the very northernmost building here is my main building. [1:06:21, 1:06:26]: There's a lot just to the south of that where I constructed another building last year. [1:06:26, 1:06:30]: And then there's a third lot that I plan to develop. [1:06:30, 1:06:31]: There uh [1:06:31, 1:06:51]: butts up against uh technology parkway. So that triangular shaped piece there, um, and then you can see the length of that straight blue line, which is their thirty foot buffer, uh, it so it runs up against a long section of my property. And and there would uh [1:06:51, 1:07:00]: But based on their drawings, there would be 25 residential units that contact my property line there. [1:07:02, 1:07:14]: So we've been able to provide um uh visual. Um it appears to be um our engineer. If that's if that's the building that we're talking about right there. [1:07:14, 1:07:27]: Yes, that's my main building and this is the one I built last year that was not in the package. So building to building is approximately two hundred and seventy five feet horizontally. Steve, if you go to the mic, please. I'm sorry. Thank you. [1:07:28, 1:07:35]: Uh based on the just this exhibit that Michelle's holding up, from the from the new building to the uh [1:07:36, 1:07:49]: approximate location of the proposed rear of of the proposed buildings, about two hundred and seventy s five, two hundred and seventy six feet. Um thirty of that, which would be the existing vegetation that's there, which is very heavily wooded right now. Okay. [1:07:53, 1:07:57]: I appreciate that. There wouldn need to be one in my opinion. Thank you so much. No problem. [1:08:02, 1:08:04]: Anyone else to speak for against the property? [1:08:06, 1:08:10]: Hearing none, uh may I have a motion on the project? [1:08:11, 1:08:12]: Mr. Chairman. [1:08:13, 1:08:14]: May uh [1:08:14, 1:08:18]: Uh earlier I raised the question of recombination. [1:08:19, 1:08:23]: And I did that for a reason. I I in my honest opinion [1:08:24, 1:08:31]: I think recombination, zoning changes, comprehensive plan, amendments. [1:08:33, 1:08:40]: All of those things would be premature until the annexation process has been completed. [1:08:40, 1:08:46]: And as we see it, we don't know what the city council is gonna do with respect to indexation. [1:08:47, 1:08:50]: So I I'm gonna recommend or make a motion that we [1:08:51, 1:08:51]: Postpone. [1:08:52, 1:08:54]: The comprehensive plan amendment. [1:08:55, 1:09:15]: And the reson until the annexation process is complete. Mm mr. The only thing that we're doing here is make a making a recommendation to the city council. It's up to the city council to approve it. We can't approve it. The only thing we can do is recommend that we've had a public hearing, that uh these the the the issues have been addressed. [1:09:15, 1:09:24]: Addressed and that we're making the recommendation based on the facts that we have before us today. It's up to the city council to approve it. Go ahead, Miss U [1:09:24, 1:09:44]: That that's correct, Chairman. Um so Mr. Dumas, the all three items will have to go to the city council for approval. They do require a recommendation from this board in order to move forward with their decision. So it would be required for you all to because we would s we would be back. [1:09:44, 1:09:55]: back in a loop because you all would have to make a recommendation on the annexation, the comp plan amendment, and the rezoning in order for this city council to make their final decision on all three. [1:09:56, 1:10:04]: And Mr. Doom is if you look at the project, we're repeating the same uh lock configuration over and over because they're trying to do [1:10:04, 1:10:05]: The zoning, the [1:10:06, 1:10:08]: Recomposit recombination. [1:10:08, 1:10:13]: annexation, et cetera. One can neither of these pieces can go forward without the others. [1:10:17, 1:10:37]: I was going to say, if you don't mind my interjecting. Um, with regards to the annexation, no annexation can come in without it being zoned. So the zoning and the comp plan chain have to take place concurrently with the annexation. All three have to occur together because we're asking for a change from what is currently in place. [1:10:37, 1:10:38]: Yeah. [1:10:38, 1:10:47]: So all three have to be taken together. So if the ant we go to city council and they deny the annexation, then the zoning and the comp plan change goes away. [1:10:49, 1:10:52]: If they approve the annexation, they have to approve that annexation. [1:10:52, 1:10:55]: with the zoning and the comp plant component. [1:10:55, 1:10:57]: And I believe if I'm not mistaken, we still have. [1:10:58, 1:11:07]: uh to get uh approval from Henry County as well. That's correct. So uh we're not the only one that's reviewing this. Henry County is reviewing it as well. [1:11:07, 1:11:11]: So only thing we can do is make a recommendation based on the facts that we have. [1:11:11, 1:11:15]: And uh recommended to city council again, as I stated. [1:11:15, 1:11:19]: Uh Henry County the zoning will have to go over this and approve it as well. [1:11:19, 1:11:20]: That's correct. [1:11:20, 1:11:20]: Okay. [1:11:22, 1:11:23]: Any other questions? [1:11:25, 1:11:26]: Might have a motion. [1:11:31, 1:11:32]: Not everyone at once, no. [1:11:33, 1:11:36]: Make a motion that we approve the comprehensive plan amendment. [1:11:37, 1:11:39]: I have a second. A second. [1:11:40, 1:11:48]: It's been moved by Mr. Horns and second by Mr. Tibetal. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed? [1:11:48, 1:11:49]: All right. [1:11:50, 1:11:57]: Hearing uh one opposition, the uh eyes have it, the application is approved. [1:11:59, 1:12:02]: The third case in in um on the pardon me? [1:12:03, 1:12:06]: Who w who was the person the board member in opposition? [1:12:07, 1:12:11]: It was uh mo moved by Mr. Horns and second by Mr. Tividal. [1:12:11, 1:12:24]: Right. Did you say in in the boat itself there was um Yeah, one Mr uh um Dumas opposed it. Dim okay, thank you. Okay. [1:12:24, 1:12:27]: Five minutes and vote, and I want to change my vote. [1:12:30, 1:12:39]: Okay. Uh Mr. Plashon wants to change his vote. Uh that being the case, I vote for approval, so the eyes have it. [1:12:42, 1:12:54]: The third case is rezoning case RZ 202202. The City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge Mayor and City Council will hear a rezoning request by S3 Capital Investment LLC. [1:12:54, 1:12:56]: The applicant represented by the battle PC [1:12:57, 1:13:01]: The agent to rezone industrial in the city of Stockbridge city limits [1:13:01, 1:13:06]: А миксюс на уникопенри какие то план универман. [1:13:07, 1:13:12]: To allow for an age restricted residential development. The property contains two parcels [1:13:12, 1:13:13]: As are listed below. [1:13:14, 1:13:17]: With forty two point oh one plus or minus total acres. [1:13:21, 1:13:23]: The staff will present the item for me, please. [1:13:43, 1:13:44]: Okay, this is [1:13:45, 1:13:52]: This is for the proposed rezoning R Z twenty twenty two oh two for the Southern Crescent uh development. [1:13:57, 1:14:02]: So right now we have two zoning classifications and the [1:14:03, 1:14:07]: Applicant would like to rezone from mixed use in unincorporated Henry County. [1:14:07, 1:14:08]: Uh and then [1:14:09, 1:14:15]: OI office institutional and L I Light Industrial in the City Stockbridge portion. [1:14:16, 1:14:23]: And would want to rezone both parcels to PUD plan unit development to allow for this proposed development. [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: Okay. [1:14:36, 1:14:41]: We have already covered the fact that the proposed development is not consistent with the comprehensive plan. [1:14:42, 1:14:43]: And that's the reason for the [1:14:44, 1:14:45]: That application. [1:14:45, 1:14:47]: The rationale for the rezoning um [1:14:49, 1:14:51]: It is necessary because the proposed development re [1:14:51, 1:14:53]: include both attached and detached. [1:14:54, 1:14:55]: Residential units. [1:14:55, 1:14:58]: as well as the existing uh rehabilitation center. [1:14:59, 1:14:59]: Um [1:15:01, 1:15:06]: They have been advised to rezone a PUD rather than M FR, which is multiple family residential. [1:15:06, 1:15:09]: Um because mainly the presence of the [1:15:10, 1:15:12]: Southern Crescent facility to be included. [1:15:13, 1:15:16]: Um and then the floodplain areas uh because [1:15:17, 1:15:23]: The site needs flexibility in site design and the PUD allows more flexibility than the MFR district. [1:15:24, 1:15:28]: А ви філбі пропе потріл позитив ефекс. [1:15:28, 1:15:33]: of this development and the rezoning will be compatible. You do have MFR zoning. [1:15:33, 1:15:35]: Uh to the west, south and east. [1:15:36, 1:15:37]: in adjacent subdivisions. [1:15:38, 1:15:45]: And uh this would also be a good transition with the adjacent L I and OI districts to the north. [1:15:45, 1:15:51]: And PUD would be compatible similar to Henry County's mixed use uh designation for track one. [1:15:53, 1:16:01]: Villa site is suitable due to its un unusual shape of of the track two and the uh Wolf Creek tributary. [1:16:01, 1:16:07]: Um there may be some challenges in the site design and a bridge is needed over the creek, as I mentioned. [1:16:08, 1:16:08]: Um [1:16:09, 1:16:10]: You feel this would be [1:16:10, 1:16:13]: positive impacts on adjacent residential uses. [1:16:14, 1:16:16]: Um I mentioned before the [1:16:16, 1:16:25]: uh need for site improvements, some improvements to the sewerage system, um the traffic uh and transportation impacts we've covered [1:16:25, 1:16:26]: Let's see. [1:16:29, 1:16:38]: Uh the proposed development qualifies for a PUD district because it meets the requirement that PU districts contain at least two types of residential uses. [1:16:39, 1:16:46]: Um it would also further the objectives of the parkway mixed use overlay district. This both parcels are in that overlay district. [1:16:46, 1:16:50]: because of their frontage on highway forty two north. [1:16:50, 1:16:54]: So this could be an attractive gateway into the city. [1:16:54, 1:16:55]: Um [1:16:56, 1:17:00]: as far as being able to develop under the present zoning, um [1:17:00, 1:17:02]: There could be some uses um [1:17:03, 1:17:08]: But this would be uh attractive development that we feel would be compatible with the area. [1:17:12, 1:17:14]: We recommend approval with conditions. [1:17:15, 1:17:29]: Uh we've identified um five conditions. We've discussed the annexation approval would be one, the comprehensive plan amendment approval as was mentioned, all three need to go hand in hand. Also the recombination of the two parcels [1:17:29, 1:17:30]: And then finally [1:17:31, 1:17:31]: Uh um [1:17:32, 1:17:32]: Well [1:17:33, 1:17:35]: based on the conceptual site plan. [1:17:36, 1:17:38]: The final plan would need to be similar to this one. [1:17:38, 1:17:48]: and then the water and sewage uh improvements uh that would be needed that I discussed before. So we have these five uh recommended approved conditions. [1:17:53, 1:17:53]: That it [1:17:54, 1:17:54]: Mm. [1:17:55, 1:17:57]: Have the applicant come forward. [1:18:06, 1:18:14]: We are um in favor of the conditions proposed by staff. I won't um be redundant in comments. If you all have any questions for me, I'd be happy to answer them. [1:18:14, 1:18:20]: We don't have any I don't have any questions, Miss Balor. I I I think that w what maybe you need to explain to [1:18:20, 1:18:40]: the uh public that's here that uh we're redundantly going over the same parcels of land, simply addressing them in dis d different aspects to combine them all. So if you could turn around maybe make that clear to them so they understand so it's not something yes. Um this application um is a part of [1:18:40, 1:19:00]: The other two, we in order to be able to bring this project to fruition, we have to annex the 20 acres in, which is the first application we dealt with. We have to change the comprehensive plan to adapt to all both parcels so that there is consistency there between the two. [1:19:00, 1:19:20]: Because currently there are multiple land uses applicable to the two properties. And then thirdly, we have to rezone the entire project to PUD to allow for a plan unit development. And so that is what the rezoning application is about. We've already described the project. And if the PUD is recommended for approval. [1:19:20, 1:19:31]: we can move forward with the development um in in a cohesive manner as opposed to having these individual parcels um that have no um kind of consistency between the two. [1:19:32, 1:19:34]: Okay. Thank you. Mm-hmm. [1:19:37, 1:19:40]: Does anyone uh wanna speak in favor or in opposition to the project? [1:19:43, 1:19:44]: Anyone. [1:19:45, 1:19:48]: Hearing none, does the board have any questions? [1:19:49, 1:19:53]: I think we've gone over that. I mean I have a motion. [1:20:02, 1:20:04]: I'll make a motion. So [1:20:05, 1:20:19]: I make a motion that uh we approve from a MFR, which is a multifamily resident, to a planned unit development for that particular site. [1:20:20, 1:20:21]: Have a second. [1:20:21, 1:20:22]: Second. [1:20:22, 1:20:27]: It's been moved by Mr. Thibodeau and second by Mr. Horns that the applicant be approved. [1:20:28, 1:20:36]: All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Those opposed, hearing none, the ayes have it. The application is approved for recommendation. [1:20:36, 1:20:38]: Seven, are there any that are opposed? [1:20:39, 1:20:47]: Pardon me? Do we have any votes that are opposed? I I did say I oppose. Oh, did you you oppose this? I did. We have one opposed uh Mr. Dumas opposes it. [1:20:55, 1:21:05]: Fourth case is the rezoning case RZ 202203. The Stock Bridge Planning Commission will hold public hearings on Thursday, August 25th, 2022 at 630 p.m. [1:21:05, 1:21:25]: And the Stockbridge City Council will hold a public hearing on Monday, September the 12th at 6 o'clock p.m. in the Stockbridge City Hall, 4640 North Henry Boulevard, Georgia, in consideration for the request and changing from R R Rural Residential District to OR Office. [1:21:25, 1:21:27]: was anti uh institutional district. [1:21:28, 1:21:37]: for uh n point nine six four acres at thirty eight eighty four Walt Stevens Road and land lot twenty five, section twelve, comprising [1:21:40, 1:21:48]: Comprising parcel numbers O thirty one zero two zero one two thousand applicant by CK Commercial Properties. [1:21:48, 1:21:50]: Uh LLC. [1:21:51, 1:21:54]: Uh co counsel is uh oh care of, I'm sorry. [1:21:55, 1:21:59]: Battle PC entry parties may attend the public hearing. Staff would present the item, please. [1:22:30, 1:22:40]: Sorry, right there is I think she snatched Pardon me. I said I'm about to start. She snatched the um flash driver out and it's causing some issues. Okay. Uh just wants to uh [1:22:47, 1:22:51]: Yes it w it was snatched out instead of taken out safely. [1:22:53, 1:22:56]: I think I no actually you know what they use my flash drive. [1:22:56, 1:22:58]: No, I'm talking about Lundel. Okay. [1:23:15, 1:23:16]: Yeah. [1:23:34, 1:23:40]: Sorry about that. Uh I really need those presentations, but uh she she needs to bring her uh [1:23:40, 1:23:50]: drive back. But anyway I'll just proceed for the sake of time. Um the current application before us is a rezoning um for um [1:23:52, 1:24:12]: a speech um therapy facility. Um the future land use designation of the subject property is pu public institution. The subject property is part of a of the mixed of the Parkway mixed use overlay district. The subject property has previously been a church known as the Anointed Prayers of Faith and Masonic Lodge. [1:24:12, 1:24:32]: The building was constructed constructed in nineteen seventy. Surrounding land use and zoning. Property located to the north is the church and its zone MFR. Property to the south of the subject properties, the Red Oak Elementary School and its zone PUD Plan Union Development. Property to the east of the subject properties, the Red Oak United Methodist Church. [1:24:32, 1:24:52]: Church and its zone RR, Rural Residential District. Property to the West is the House of Prayer and Fellowship, Practical Learning, Abel Lee College Preparatory Academy, and its zone RR. The request to resone the subject property to OI is consistent with the current comp plan, which designates the property for public institutional. [1:24:52, 1:25:12]: Land uses. The possible impact upon adjacent property owners, should the property be rezoned, is a small increase in vehicular traffic. The subject property has frontage on Walt Stevens Road, which is a local road. Therefore, there should be a minimal impact on adjacent thoroughfares with pedestrian and vehicle, vehicular traffic. [1:25:11, 1:25:31]: Traffic. Rezoning the subject property will not affect the character of Walt Stevens Road. The location of the proposed speech therapy facility will benefit Red Oak Elementary School since it will help students who have difficulties with speech therapy. The site appears to be suitable for the proposed rezoning with approved variances. Issues regarding buffering to [1:25:31, 1:25:51]: Topography, drainage, drainage, access, size, and shape of the property will be addressed. Variance requests will be heard concurrently. We will hear the variance request right after this case. The applicant will be seeking approval for the following variances. A variance to reduce the minimum lie width from 125 feet to 96 feet. A variance to reduce the eastern [1:25:51, 1:25:53]: [5155.0, 5175.0]: From fifty to zero feet and three feet. And number three, opinion variance to reduce the western section of the property from fifty feet to zero. Staff recommends approval with conditions of the proposed rezoning from R residential rural residential to OI office institutional with the following condition. [1:26:15, 1:26:18]: approval of the three variance varences that will be heard later. [1:26:21, 1:26:27]: Okay. Is the applicant present? Yes, yes, sir. Stop. [1:26:34, 1:26:34]: Oh sorry. [1:26:57, 1:27:17]: Good evening again, Michelle Battle, representing the applicant. Once again, as stated by staff, we are seeking to rezone the property from rural residential to OI, along with the three variances for a children's speech therapy facility. We can see here on the slide, which outlines what staff has already indicated. [1:27:17, 1:27:37]: That this property is surrounded honestly by non-residential uses. We have a church on one side and school facilities on the other. This is a picture of the building as it stands currently. As you can see again. [1:27:37, 1:27:57]: Again, we're not surrounded by any residential uses, despite the fact that those other buildings have the rural residential zoning designation. We can see here again this parcel surrounded on these two sides by rural residential and the PUD in the rear. And then we've got C1 and C2 along this wall. [1:27:57, 1:28:11]: Walt Stevens Corridor. So quite honestly, all of these parcels could be rezoned to O and I, but they are not all included in this application because we only have site control over the one piece that is currently owned by the applicant. [1:28:12, 1:28:32]: What we are seeking to do again is to readapt the property from what had been a church building that had been used for, I would assume, uh office space and um other uh church-related activities to convert it into a speech therapy building to assist um children. [1:28:32, 1:28:52]: Children and and adults with um speech related issues. The site again is um only point nine six three acres. And in terms of improvements, we're gonna leave the building as is. Um the only real improvements we would need to make would be to put the parking area um in the front um of the building. [1:28:52, 1:29:12]: There are some landscaping and other things that will probably occur here in the rear, and that necessitated because of the change in our zoning category, that we are in need of the variances that have been mentioned and will be addressed in the next application. [1:29:12, 1:29:32]: But those variances really are just about the buffer requirements between O and I and RR property. But as you can see, in light of the fact that the adjacent properties are non-residentially used properties, there's really no need for the buffer in between. [1:29:32, 1:29:37]: Um so the site will basically stay as is with the exception of the parking that'll be in front. Thank you. [1:29:40, 1:29:45]: I'm sure if you wanna any questions maybe uh you finished you wanna [1:29:46, 1:29:49]: They imagine what is the purpose of reducing the size? [1:29:51, 1:29:56]: Um for the variances? Or y you said I'm not sure what I didn't hear the question, I'm sorry. [1:29:58, 1:29:59]: Oh, to put the parking lot in the front. [1:30:06, 1:30:09]: No, um I believe we're gonna keep the property. [1:30:09, 1:30:13]: The building as is, but we've got the real estate broker here. [1:30:14, 1:30:34]: Good evening, uh board chair. Robert Payne. I'm representing CKC Commercial Properties. Uh I do a lot of their real estate for them. I've also got the operator of the business here with me. They can answer any questions that you might have. Uh there will be no additions done to the building. The building suits the the footprint suits the need. Um it's gonna be a small facility, not a lot of kids at [1:30:34, 1:30:44]: one time. Uh I think my conversation with the operator was that on average maybe eight children at a time. Uh at the most it could see fourteen or fifteen at one time, but on average eight. [1:30:48, 1:30:49]: Thank you for that. [1:30:50, 1:31:01]: And I think you said that this would be complementary to the ad the ad uh school that's adjacent or nearby in the vet. I guess they have children with uh They may have auditory issues. Correct. All right. Okay. [1:31:05, 1:31:11]: Okay. Uh do we have any one opp supporting or opposing this project? [1:31:12, 1:31:16]: Anyone wanna speak on behalf in opposition or in support of the project? [1:31:20, 1:31:35]: Hearing none, uh I asked the board for motion. Were you able to find motion? They are second. Second second who's seconded? I didn't I didn't do it very much. Doom is first. Doom is okay. [1:31:37, 1:31:53]: Um Mr. Plashon has moved to uh made a motion. Uh Mr Uh Doom is seconded. All those in favor let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Those opposed on here. They ayes have it. The application is uh approved for recommendation. [1:31:54, 1:31:55]: Okay. [1:31:59, 1:32:11]: The fourth case is uh rezoning case number RZ twenty twenty two oh three. Stock break plan commission will hold a public hearing on Thursday, August twenty-fifth, twenty twenty-two at six thirty. [1:32:12, 1:32:28]: Stockbridge City Council will hold a public hearing on Monday, September the twelfth, twenty twenty-two, at six o'clock p.m. in Stockbridge City Hall, 4640, North Henry Boulevard, Georgia, in consideration for a request to change in zoning from RR residential to OR office institutional. [1:32:29, 1:32:38]: Uh zero point nine six four acres at thirty eight eighty four Walt Stevens Road Land Lot twenty five, Section twelve, comprising parcel number [1:32:39, 1:32:42]: O three one oh two oh one two thousand. [1:32:46, 1:33:06]: It's the same case. Is it true? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's okay. That's yours. Yeah, that's your own. I'm sorry. If you don't inject safely, it won't it won't be. We're on the fifth case. We're on the fifth case. All right, the fifth case, variance uh case I'm a VR 2022 oh two. [1:33:06, 1:33:26]: Stockbridge Planning Commission will hold a public hearing on Thursday, August 25th, 2022, at 6 30 p.m. And Stockbridge City Council will hold a public hearing on Monday, September the 12th, 2022, at 6 o'clock p.m. in Stockbridge City Hall, 4640 North Henry Boulevard, Georgia, to consider a request for one, a variance to reduce the required minimum lots with [1:33:26, 1:33:31]: of one t a hundred and twenty five feet to ninety six point three seven feet and two [1:33:31, 1:33:35]: A variance to reduce the buffer on the eastern side from fifty feet to zero feet. [1:33:36, 1:33:41]: And three are variants to reduce the buffer on the western side of the property from fifty feet to zero feet. [1:33:42, 1:33:43]: Фо [1:33:43, 1:33:48]: Nine point six point zero point nine six four acres at thirty eight eighty four Wall Stevens Road. [1:33:49, 1:33:54]: And landlock twenty five district twelve comprising parcel zero three one zero two zero. [1:33:56, 1:34:14]: One two zero zero zero applicant by application by CK Commercial Properties LLC. Uh CARE of Battle Law PC entry parties may appear at the public hearing. Will the staff present the uh item please? Okay. There you go. All right. [1:34:30, 1:34:32]: Uh really important. Yeah. [1:34:42, 1:34:44]: STF1 must have [1:34:50, 1:34:55]: Chairman, if you'll bear with us for just a moment. I'm sorry, I got it. I got it now. [1:34:55, 1:35:15]: Sorry about that. No problem. When you don't eject it uh safely it sometimes it leaves the stuff from the old disc in there. All right, once again the applicant's requesting three variances from the development regulation, the unified co development code. You want to reduce the required minimum lot width from 125 feet to 96.37 feet, reduce the buffer from the eastern [1:35:15, 1:35:35]: Side from 50 feet to zero feet. Reduce the buffer on the western side of the property from 50 feet to zero. This variance request is run concurrently with the rezoning that we recently heard. The Planning Commission and City Council shall consider the weight and merits of each of the following factors before granting a variance. There are five factors. [1:35:35, 1:35:55]: That you guys must consider before granting a variance. A variance must be granted where owning to special conditions. A literal enforcement of the provision of the unified development code will result in an individual case resulting in unnecessary hardship. A variance shall observe the spirit of the unified development code, secure public safety and welfare, and deliver substantial. [1:35:55, 1:36:15]: Substantial justice. The existence of a non-conforming use on adjacent property or nearby property shall not constitute a justification for granting a variance. The Planning Commission shall make recommendations to the Mayor and City Council, which shall have the authority to render the decision on the variance, pursuant to the public notice and hearing requirements set forth in chapter 9. [1:36:15, 1:36:35]: A variance may not be granted for a use specifically prohibited by the UDC. A variance is intended to compensate for a shortfall in dimensions of a property that will prevent the property from complying with the site design standards. There are extraordinary and exceptional circumstances pertaining to the subject property due to the size. [1:36:35, 1:36:39]: that are not found on other properties in the same zoning district. [1:36:44, 1:36:47]: The front section of the property is a hundred feet in the rear of the of the [1:36:49, 1:37:09]: Of the property. As a result, the subject property is very narrow, which would not meet the minimum lot requirements of the UDC. The reduction of the buffers would allow any necessary development of the subject property. A literal interpretation of the provision of the unified development code would deprive the applicants of the rights comingly enjoyed by [1:37:09, 1:37:29]: By owners of other properties located in the same zoning district. Since the building is not 125 feet wide as required by the development standards of the OI, the applicant may not use it for any other purpose besides institutional purposes. By reducing the minimum live feet from 125 to 96 feet, the applicant could use. [1:37:29, 1:37:49]: Utilize the existing building for institutional purposes. Granting a variance requested will not confer upon the property owner any special privileges that are denied to owners of other properties in the same zoning district. The requested variances will be consistent with the purpose and intent of the Unified Development Code and will be compatible with uses on neighboring properties and will serve the process of the process of the process [1:37:49, 1:38:09]: The public welfare. By approving the requested variances, the subject property will be used to assist children who need speech therapy assistance. The extraordinary circumstances are not a result of the actions of the applicant. The building was developed as a church and a Masonic lodge with a narrow front section. The variants requested are the minimal release that would allow the legal [1:38:09, 1:38:29]: use of the land, building, or structure. The proposed rezoning to the pro proposed rezoning to OI will allow the owner to use the subject property for speech therapy as a speech therapist facility. Therefore the variance is not a request to permit a use of land, buildings, or structures that is, structures that is prohibited in the same zoning district. [1:38:29, 1:38:33]: Staff recommends approval of the three variances. [1:38:45, 1:39:05]: Yes, it would it would it would uh facilitate the the conversion of the building into a speech therapist facility because the change to OI requires them to have a certain amount of parking and they want to reconfigure the the the subject property to put the parking in front and that what and and that's the major thing that our trip [1:39:05, 1:39:06]: Trigger the variance request. [1:39:17, 1:39:18]: You did say yes, sir. [1:39:21, 1:39:39]: Yes, sir. And uh they're putting additional buffering around the building because of the requirements of OI and with a incompatible or different zoning district, which would be the R R next to it, they have to have a certain amount of buffering. So that also plays a factor in in why they need a variance. [1:39:44, 1:40:04]: Can I say something real quick, Mr. Chairman? The only thing I wanted to say that we're going to do any different than what they're they're saying, you'll see it inside of the site plan. Uh county staff asked for us to provide some level of privacy for the encroaching cemetery that's coming from the Red Oak United Methodist Church. [1:40:04, 1:40:11]: found in the purchase process that the cemetery that dates back into the late 1800s encroaches onto the subject property. [1:40:11, 1:40:12]: Um [1:40:13, 1:40:21]: We tried to speak with the adjoining church that actually that's their cemetery to see if they might want that land and we'll do a little bit of a swap, but it didn't really work out. So [1:40:21, 1:40:29]: We're gonna maintain ownership of that cemetery, but we're gonna provide some level of privacy for the loved ones that might come and visit. [1:40:30, 1:40:32]: So you'll see on the site plan um [1:40:33, 1:40:43]: some level of greenery that's gonna kinda round around the cemetery to provide some level of privacy from the subject facility to the cemetery. That's the only other change that we're gonna do the exterior. [1:40:45, 1:40:45]: [6053.8, 6054.6]: Prima. [1:40:56, 1:41:05]: I don't know if we can make our the rest of the presentation there, but um I think we've got our PowerPoint here. [1:41:11, 1:41:22]: So I I wanted to be able to point out um what was just uh stated, although the site plan unfortunately I can't seem let me see if I can [1:41:23, 1:41:28]: Let's try and oops. Make it a little bigger. [1:41:31, 1:41:51]: Alright, so um this is the area where we're talking about the um the wall and the landscaping to give the privacy here. Um understand that with regards to the variances, in order for us to put um the parking lot in the front um and even to rezone the property um as proposed, the site does not meet the [1:41:51, 1:42:11]: Frontage requirement under the O and I district regulation. So allowing us to reduce the frontage from 125 to the 96 allows us to be technically in compliance and not have a non-conformity with regards to the width of the lot. Additionally, um, we want the building itself. [1:42:11, 1:42:31]: To be conforming and by allowing us to reduce the buffer, we're not reducing the setback. We're just talking about the buffer along the side of each side of the property. And so that again allows us to maintain the building where it is as well as to install. [1:42:31, 1:42:40]: All the fencing as proposed and the additional landscaping that's there. If you look at what is currently [1:42:40, 1:43:00]: On the property you can see here, you can almost see the cemetery that was discussed over here. Um on uh to the I guess on your screen to the left side um where the um the signage is for the brokerage signage is there's the cemetery on that side. So we're gonna provide some privacy along um that portion. [1:43:00, 1:43:19]: And then the parking lot area will be in the front. And you can see from our slide here that the parking lot would go technically into the buffer areas on the side. So that was one of the large reasons why we were asking for the reduction in the buffer as well. [1:43:22, 1:43:36]: Right, we're not abutting. And so if the churches were also zone O and I, which would be the appropriate zoning for them versus what they are now, because those churches actually don't have a use permit, um, because they were built prior to that requirement. So [1:43:38, 1:43:44]: Nothing residential. So we don't need buffers against something that's non residential, even though it's zoned residentially. [1:44:04, 1:44:05]: Okay. [1:44:08, 1:44:12]: Hearing none, um take a vote from the board may have a most [1:44:14, 1:44:17]: Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve the variance. [1:44:18, 1:44:30]: Second. Second. Second. Oh is that Mr. Tibodore or uh okay. Uh it's been moved by Mr. Dumas and second by uh Mr. Tibod. [1:44:30, 1:44:33]: Uh for approval all over the paper let it be known by the sign of [1:44:35, 1:44:36]: Balls. [1:44:37, 1:44:42]: I tell it, the application is proof of signaled. [1:44:47, 1:44:50]: But um and this is very complex. [1:44:52, 1:44:55]: Uh this is kind of a long agenda so we're gonna take a five [1:45:00, 1:45:03]: Um as in uh P fifteen. [1:45:04, 1:45:16]: Make sure your jump drive work. I did uh snatch down. Oh, okay. She ain't ejected. Yeah. So make sure you get your work. [1:45:21, 1:45:31]: I don't worry about that. I was uh that's why I said that video earlier. Yeah, yeah well that I had something. [1:45:39, 1:45:40]: Well. [1:45:49, 1:45:50]: Okay. [1:46:00, 1:46:00]: Okay. [1:49:35, 1:49:35]: Oh I see. [1:49:38, 1:49:39]: Oh yeah. [1:49:42, 1:49:43]: C15. [1:49:46, 1:49:48]: Now you put things with reconvene. [1:50:04, 1:50:17]: I think we left off at at at at six, we now start in six. Correct? Yes sir. Okay. Yes sir. Yes sir. All right, we on this is case, this is the sixth case comprehensive plan amendment, case number CP. [1:50:17, 1:50:25]: 2022 03. Stock Ridge Planning Commission will hold a public hearing on Thursday, August 25th, 2022, 6:30 p.m. [1:50:26, 1:50:33]: Stockbridge City Council will hold a public hearing on Monday, September the 12th at 6 p.m. Stockbridge City Hall located at 4640. [1:50:34, 1:50:35]: Henry Boulevard. [1:50:35, 1:50:41]: Stockbridge, Georgia, to consider request for an amendment to the city of Stockbridge's comprehensive future plan use plan. [1:50:42, 1:50:48]: from low density vertical mixed use to high density residential to allow for a mixed use residential development. [1:50:49, 1:50:55]: Application by Highway one hundred thirty eight's Five E Road Land Assemblage L L C [1:50:55, 1:50:57]: Represented by Randy Stamy. [1:50:58, 1:51:02]: The agent the property contains twenty six point five plus or minus acres within. [1:51:02, 1:51:09]: twelve parcels in landlot forty two of District twelve, as are listed below within the Stockbridge city limits. [1:51:10, 1:51:13]: Interested parties may attend the public hearing. [1:51:13, 1:51:29]: Staff, will you present the item? Okay. The property has furniture on Highway 138 West, Lake Spyway Parkway, Spyway Road, Berkeley Drive, Star Circle, and Tributary Parkway. It contains approximately twenty-six point five total acres. [1:51:30, 1:51:50]: With twelve parcels located in landlock 42 of District 12. The applicant has also applied for a rezoning and a recombination application, which which will be heard after this case. Proposed the proposed mixed use development will include 318 apartments and 50 townhomes with a proposed [1:51:50, 1:52:10]: Density rate of 13.8 units per acre acre, which falls well within the high density residential land use designation they are seeking. The high density residential land use category has a range of 6 to 16 units per acre. Currently, the subject property is vacant. The surrounding land uses to the north is to [1:52:10, 1:52:14]: The Glen Devon subdivision off Glendavon Road County. [1:52:18, 1:52:19]: And a vacant [1:52:20, 1:52:40]: Shopping center, Spobby Cummings at 1175 Highway 138. West of the property is Vacant Land. South of the property is Spobby Ridge Subdivision off Spoby Ridge Circle. East of the property is Bailey's Estate Subdivision off Spoby Glen Drive and Spoby Glen Subdivision off Spoby Glen Drive in the county. [1:52:40, 1:53:00]: County. If you look at the screen, you will see the vicinity map, which will put the site, will put your mind in the site of the location. Currently, the proposed development is not consistent with the comprehensive with the comprehensive future land use designation of low density vertical mixed use. Thus, this is what triggers the need for. [1:53:00, 1:53:20]: For the comprehensive plan. The existing designation calls for low-rise building with commercial uses on the ground floor and residential uses on the upper floors. Whereas the applicant is proposing to build a purely residential development with apartments and townhomes and commercial. The applicant has requested a comprehensive plan amendment. [1:53:20, 1:53:35]: to change the proper land use designation to high density, which would allow for the proposed development. The applicant does not wish to develop the types of types of uses the low density vertical mixed use future land use designation calls for. [1:53:36, 1:53:45]: To allow for the proposed development, the applicant has therefore requested a rezoning of of twelve parcels. The PU district [1:53:45, 1:53:49]: is allowed under the high density residential. [1:53:52, 1:53:52]: Their development [1:53:54, 1:54:11]: Oh, I I mix up. Although development, the proposed high density residential land use destination for the subject property is reasonable due to the properties furniture on highway one thirty eight, which is the state highway, where higher densities are appropriate. Due to the subject's properties furniture on highway one thirty eight, [1:54:12, 1:54:32]: It is unlikely that the property will be developed with the types of uses which are called for by the existing low-density vertical mixed-use land use designation. Staff has demonstrated that the requested comprehensive plan amendment is necessary and desirable for the subject property in concert with the requested rezoning of property to allow for a proposed. [1:54:32, 1:54:49]: mixed use residential development. As a result, planning and staff recommends approval of CP 2022-03. Also uh here's a map of all 12 parcels that we this is how we look at this combined. [1:55:04, 1:55:12]: Once again, here's the vicinity map um showing you the approximate location of the subject properties and its relationship with one with highway one hundred-eight. [1:55:15, 1:55:22]: So are there any questions on the company? Uh well your staff recommends it, correct? Yes, staff recommends approval. All right. Yes. Applicant present. [1:55:23, 1:55:25]: Yes, sir. The applicant's a pr is present, yes sir. [1:55:38, 1:55:41]: Good evening. I'm Zach Murray. [1:55:41, 1:55:46]: Thirty Macon Street, McDonald, Georgia. Uh I am the applicant. [1:55:46, 1:55:53]: Did prepare a presentation. Uh if you have any questions you would like to ask me first, I'm open to it while I get the presentation ready. [1:55:56, 1:56:05]: So I didn't get your name again. So that was yes. What's my last name? Murray. Murray? Murray. Okay. Thank you. So I ha I could take that off now. [1:56:13, 1:56:17]: Uh just to give a little history, uh the property is Spivey Commons. [1:56:18, 1:56:21]: It's sat there for a while, completely empty. [1:56:21, 1:56:27]: The land that we actually are seeking to develop right now is a dumping ground. [1:56:28, 1:56:30]: As a Henry County resident [1:56:31, 1:56:41]: Um I really wanted to take some time and be intentional about building something that is of a different standard that I feel our community deserves. [1:56:41, 1:56:56]: Uh because I am a resident here and it's not just about going to buy something to sell it. This is a property that we are going to build and hold and maintain and manage uh as the management company as well. [1:57:00, 1:57:01]: Um [1:57:01, 1:57:21]: So I'll show you a digital presentation. Uh we had several meetings with residents and I wanted their feedback. Based off of their feedback, they did want to see what it would look and feel like. Uh I did go ahead and take the investment of time and effort to actually do a 3D rendering. [1:57:21, 1:57:23]: Of what that would look like. [1:57:25, 1:57:28]: You have a pres oh okay, can we present now, all right. [1:57:36, 1:57:56]: Quick question, how did the residents respond to your presentation or your offer? I had a a a a mixed response. Um you know, some are really concerned uh about the multifamily. Um a lot of them would like to see the commercial, which we have addressed every [1:57:56, 1:58:04]: Commercial space that we have here is actually leased out. Um, and we are bringing the first [1:58:04, 1:58:07]: healthy grocery and nourish and bloom. [1:58:07, 1:58:11]: А ту мекдана на олія за гелті грошей. [1:58:11, 1:58:20]: It is the only smart health of grocery that we have. Um this would be the only one inside of our whole region. [1:58:28, 1:58:30]: Are you proposing that for this site? [1:58:30, 1:58:31]: Uh yes, sir. [1:58:32, 1:58:43]: This this and this entire presentation is we did drone footage and designed over the actual footage. It is a exact representation of what would be there. [1:58:55, 1:59:02]: This is a view of the uh multifamily, which currently the roads are in, the infrastructure is in there now. [1:59:02, 1:59:10]: Uh there is a bridge that is currently there that will allow us to have the multi-family luxury flats in the back. [1:59:11, 1:59:12]: Um [1:59:12, 1:59:24]: completely away from the rest of the development. We do have connectivity. We will do trails that go throughout the property and are connecting to the other trails in the area. [1:59:25, 1:59:29]: Are these individual uh units for purchase or rent? [1:59:30, 1:59:35]: Uh the townhomes are for purchase. Uh the apartments are for rent. [1:59:35, 1:59:37]: What's the price point for the town homes? [1:59:38, 1:59:39]: Uh mid threes. [1:59:39, 1:59:41]: What about the Ronaldo units? [1:59:41, 1:59:53]: I'm sorry. The rental units? Uh the rental units, we're only doing one and two bedrooms. Uh they'll start around 774 square feet. Um the starting price will be around 1500 for that. [1:59:54, 1:59:55]: Uh [1:59:55, 1:59:59]: In in conjunction to what is the market is demanding right now. [2:00:08, 2:00:28]: Um I do want to show you uh Nourish and Bloom will actually take on a bigger space. Uh they have one location now that is in Trilleth down in Fettville. Uh this will be a larger larger grocery footprint. So we did put together a presentation to show [2:00:28, 2:00:36]: Exactly how that process would work and what additional benefits they would be able to serve this community and this property. [2:00:38, 2:00:49]: Um the way this technology works, just to be redundant and explain, you walk in the store, you pick up what you need, uh the smart application automatically [2:00:49, 2:00:57]: With all the cameras and wait, see what you have, and you simply walk out without having to check out, it automatically charges you. [2:00:57, 2:00:58]: Wirelessly. [2:01:00, 2:01:13]: Uh they also have a bistro that will be there that would include the sushi and a juice bar um and also service uh different menus. They also have a climate control robot. [2:01:13, 2:01:22]: That will be able to geotrack this community and be able to deliver to the residents through that climate control robot. [2:01:29, 2:01:31]: Look like you're cutting out the employment opportunities. [2:01:35, 2:01:40]: Uh we still need to stock. There's still an increase. [2:01:40, 2:01:56]: There is uh also the other uh portions of the current existing space have all been leased. Uh there is a smoothie shop that is currently open there. Uh there's a sports bar that is coming there as well. [2:01:59, 2:02:04]: Um there's a accounting firm that will be also take place there. [2:02:05, 2:02:06]: Um [2:02:06, 2:02:26]: And how we arrived at Nourish and Bloom, so you know, I actually waited to my community meetings to see what they wanted in their community. So uh we initially held some units back uh based off of their feedback of wanting something similar to a Whole Foods or a Trader Joe's or something. [2:02:26, 2:02:28]: Yeah. [2:02:28, 2:02:35]: I'd scoured the earth to find what I could find and put whatever efforts we could in order to provide that that feedback. [2:02:37, 2:02:57]: So this is now the actual offerings. There's also a brunch restaurant that will be taking place there as well. There's also a cabana bar and grill that will be taking place. The pool that you saw within that that demonstration is actually a public pool to where you can rent a cabana as well as enjoy food. [2:02:57, 2:03:01]: a as a cabana grow uh right now. [2:03:01, 2:03:07]: So the residents had some input in what um um commercial activity you would have here. [2:03:07, 2:03:09]: We tried to do that as much as possible, absolutely. [2:03:17, 2:03:18]: Any questions from the board? [2:03:18, 2:03:22]: Yes. I'm looking at your site map and [2:03:23, 2:03:28]: I need you to identify where on the map will this commercial component be located. [2:03:29, 2:03:36]: Uh, it's in the current existing commercial place as well as I'll pull up the site map right now. [2:03:37, 2:03:49]: So the this current gray area is curr is where Spivy Commons is now. That's the current existing. This is the cabano bar and grill that would be uh right across from that. [2:03:50, 2:04:04]: Uh the the uh nourish and bloom will be toward this end of it. This is uh where the smoothie shop is with a drive-thru. This is the sports bar and grill, and this is the brunch restaurant. [2:04:05, 2:04:06]: Yeah. [2:04:06, 2:04:10]: So you own that vacant commercial building already? [2:04:10, 2:04:13]: Uh yeah, they are part of this development. Absolutely. Yes. [2:04:15, 2:04:35]: Uh the the pink section that you see there would be the townhomes. As you can see, that they do have an egress going towards Spivy. Our main entrance will be this tributary boulevard parkway. Uh just to mention, just because we want it to be as efficient and easy. [2:04:35, 2:04:55]: Regress and direction as possible to where I am waiting on this landowner for this out parcel. Outside of having that, I can't do uh additional entrance. I have four entrance and exits now. I wanted to add an additional from 138, uh, but until that [2:04:54, 2:05:00]: That landowner responds I I kinda at my max of what I can do. [2:05:02, 2:05:05]: So this project is going forward, whether you acquire that land or not. [2:05:06, 2:05:09]: Uh yes, sir. Okay. [2:05:12, 2:05:13]: Any other questions? [2:05:15, 2:05:23]: Yeah. Can you identify some other projects that you've done that we could take a look at? Uh sure. Similar to this. [2:05:26, 2:05:31]: I don't mean tonight, uh you don't have to pull'em up, but just Oh, okay. Yes, yes. I I can do that. Yeah, absolutely. [2:05:41, 2:05:42]: You have any questions? [2:05:43, 2:05:44]: Been answered. [2:05:47, 2:05:48]: I'm waiting on an answer. [2:05:49, 2:05:53]: Oh uh fifty three y for the additional projects? [2:05:53, 2:05:56]: Some other properties that you've developed in the past. [2:05:56, 2:06:14]: Yes. Uh in Oakwood, Georgia, it's fifty three West. If you go to fifty three West APT, uh but if you go to TELUS Partners, uh it's a full website of all the uh projects and products that we've had. [2:06:14, 2:06:16]: Okay. Thank you. [2:06:17, 2:06:17]: Absolutely. [2:06:23, 2:06:25]: Any questions from the public? [2:06:25, 2:06:27]: Supporting or opposing the project. [2:06:28, 2:06:29]: Yeah. [2:06:29, 2:06:34]: So Chairman, are you gonna go ahead and and open it up for public hearing for those opposed? [2:06:34, 2:06:39]: Yeah, okay. And then we'll close it and we'll do the ones that are in favor. All right. [2:06:40, 2:06:41]: Yeah, yeah. [2:06:42, 2:06:45]: Not the rights. So middle methods. [2:06:47, 2:06:50]: Okay. I am [2:06:51, 2:07:02]: You know, as a resident here name and address please. I'm sorry, Dion Roberts, um Lake Spivy Country Club. I live right there on Spivy Road. Um [2:07:02, 2:07:08]: where the proposed project is being um looked into. [2:07:09, 2:07:16]: Um, you know, I'm just really disappointed. Um I'm disappointed in um my commissioners and [2:07:17, 2:07:21]: Um you know, you guys that we vote for. [2:07:21, 2:07:38]: You cannot bring up anybody else. You cannot attack anybody else. Oh no, I'm just saying this I'm not attacking. Okay, well I'm just saying we well we have to keep this too. I think in the beginning I explained to you that we're not talking about anybody else that's not here, we're not talking about any public office or anything. Right. We're simply addressing the project. Right. Uh okay. [2:07:41, 2:07:47]: There was just three hundred apartments and hundred and two town homes that were just approved across the street. [2:07:47, 2:07:53]: And then now they're proposing three hundred and eighteen apartments and what fifty townhomes right there, that intersection. [2:07:53, 2:08:00]: There is no way. As a homeowner, I am so concerned, not only for the [2:08:00, 2:08:10]: the th that everything is being put right there are these apartments and being put right there all at once, but I'm concerned about crime, more crime, the in um the con [2:08:10, 2:08:11]: The the the [2:08:12, 2:08:16]: Traffic, exactly the traffic. I mean it's just it's just ridiculous. [2:08:16, 2:08:25]: And you know, and I he said that he spoke to the residents. I don't know what residents he spoke to that approved, because everybody that I know that live in the area, nobody approves of it. [2:08:26, 2:08:46]: You know, this is our community, this is where we live. You know, we live in a nice, peaceful community, we love our community. And for these developers to come in our community and they show you a pretty picture, you know, and of course it's gonna be nice and it's gonna be beautiful because they're trying to sell it to you. This is what people, when they're trying to sell you something, they make it look nice and they put icing on the cake. [2:08:46, 2:09:06]: But the fact for being this isn't it just k you know, I'm asking you guys to just please consider not approving this because it's just too much right there at that intersection. That particular particular lot is just too much going right there at at one time. Maybe something else that, you know, benefit the community. But putting more apartments, we really need more apartments. [2:09:06, 2:09:19]: departments right there. You know, the impact on the school system is gonna be horrible. The school system is already overcrowded. You know, it's it's and to p and I have children and I'm concerned for my children's safety. [2:09:20, 2:09:28]: So I'm just asking you guys just to please, you know, take in consideration that that's just too much going right there, right there at that little intersection. [2:09:28, 2:09:48]: I mean, they could probably be single family homes is fine. But to bring all these apartments, they don't care. They don't live in our community. He said he lives. Where do you live? I I don't bel I don't know. They don't live in our community. They come into the community and they put all these apartments and they go back to their nice little uh uh uh homes where the [2:09:48, 2:09:58]: There's no apartments there. So I'm just asking you guys to just to please take that into consideration. It's just too much right there at that little intersection. It's already the traffic is already a hot mess. [2:09:58, 2:10:01]: So I'm just asking you guys not to approve this. Thank you. [2:10:11, 2:10:12]: Anyone else? [2:10:14, 2:10:16]: Anyone else in opposition? [2:10:20, 2:10:21]: Are you in opposition? Yes, sir. [2:10:22, 2:10:30]: Good evening, uh Chairman and Board. Um, long time resident, been here my whole life. Uh forty years I've been here at that Lakes Bobby area, okay? [2:10:31, 2:10:35]: Um listen, the pictures, the videos are beautiful. They really are. I'll give it to them. [2:10:35, 2:10:37]: It's looks like what you'd see in Peachtree City. [2:10:38, 2:10:45]: But I want you to go back to when Spivey Commons was presented to us. It looked just like that. Spivey Commons has been vacant for over a decade. [2:10:46, 2:10:59]: Okay. I love the idea of that development. It the idea of that commercial'cause I live there. Okay. And I what I will tell you you'll you'll remember from the previous uh uh application, I'm a realtor. I do twenty plus million dollars a year in that area. [2:11:00, 2:11:05]: I know what goes on there. I know what people will do, what they want, what they what they don't want. I can tell you. [2:11:05, 2:11:08]: More apartments is not it, guys. [2:11:09, 2:11:15]: You know that has been in fr what has been brought in front of you over the last six months. There's been more that has gone from low re low [2:11:15, 2:11:16]: Residential. [2:11:16, 2:11:20]: Лоденси резиденція та аргаденси резиденція нітін. [2:11:21, 2:11:28]: Right now in the city of Stockbridge or in mailing uh the mailing address of Stockbridge, you've got over sixteen apartment complexes. [2:11:29, 2:11:49]: Peace City has six. We're being told that we need these apartment complexes to get us the retail that we need. Peace Tree City has six. Peace Tree City's density is a thousand people per square mile. We have nineteen hundred plus per square mile in Stockbridge. It has nothing to do with density. This has everything to do with the bottom dot. [2:11:48, 2:11:49]: [7910.0, 7913.0]: All right, I represent people that do this day in and day out. [2:11:53, 2:12:05]: They want apartments because they make more per acre. That's it. The average developer holds on to these things for three to five years at the most. Now, this gentleman may hold on to it longer. I'm not gonna make any accusations. [2:12:06, 2:12:09]: The problem isn't the first owner, it's the second and third. [2:12:10, 2:12:14]: They do not live by what they promise. Not the first one, but the second and the third. [2:12:15, 2:12:24]: Furthermore, do we really believe that this commercial is gonna come through, given that that commercial space has been sitting there for over a decade empty? [2:12:25, 2:12:28]: It's been a crime haven. You go by there at night. [2:12:28, 2:12:33]: There's people hanging out in the parking lot. There's vandal vandalizations happening left and right. [2:12:34, 2:12:44]: Furthermore, I want to make note of a couple other little things. She just referenced four hundred and fifty are being built across the street right now. Now you're gonna add another four hundred. [2:12:45, 2:12:52]: Furthermore, it was not referenced that this abuts Spivey Road. The major ingress egress will be Spivy Road. [2:12:53, 2:12:56]: Because the major traffic is coming from the interstate. [2:12:56, 2:13:03]: It has to turn on the spivy road. If they want to turn in and off of one thirty eight, they have to pass Spivey Commons and turn around and come back. [2:13:04, 2:13:11]: So all this traffic will either be turned on Spotify Road, which is a two lane residential, with no drainage and no sewage. [2:13:13, 2:13:13]: Furthermore [2:13:14, 2:13:24]: Um you've got well I I talked about the forty thousand square feet that's empty. You've got an adjoining three residential neighborhoods that are half acre or larger lots. [2:13:24, 2:13:29]: The National Association of Realtors has released a study that says [2:13:29, 2:13:42]: Apartment communities and high rental communities negatively affect adjoining neighborhoods of single family detached structures with half acre or estate sized lots by fifteen to twenty percent negative. [2:13:43, 2:13:47]: Are you prepared to look at these constituents of yours and tell them I'm sorry [2:13:48, 2:13:56]: You just lost upwards of$60,000 in home value. The average home value in those adjoining communities is$350,000. [2:13:58, 2:14:03]: That said, the only thing that negatively affects that any larger is a strip club. You need to know that. [2:14:03, 2:14:10]: Lastly, I will tell you this, I'll leave it at this. Time is up, time is up. You need to know he told the community Shaq was helping him do this and it's a lie. [2:14:27, 2:14:47]: Good evening. Um my neighbors have already pretty much hit on um the uh areas that I wanted to hit on. Um I'm concerned about all of this rezoning. If it's zoned for commercial, it should stay commercial. Um I I I don't know and like she said [2:14:47, 2:15:06]: There's already town homes and apartments that are being put up on that lot of on that lot of land by Kohl's N one thirty eight package store. Excuse me, could we have your name and address? Oh, I'm sorry. My name is Lisa McFall. I live in the Spybey Glenn subdivision on Creekstone Drive. I apologize. [2:15:08, 2:15:23]: Um so um with that being said, you have traffic on 138. I don't know if you're aware that there are apartments going up alongside Mount Zion Road down by Lowe's and a lot of them. You have a logistics building going up [2:15:23, 2:15:28]: um by the Ford Dealership. Now this is a two lane highway. [2:15:28, 2:15:35]: A two lane highway from I believe that's Mount Mount Zion Boulevard all the way to one thirty eight. [2:15:35, 2:15:37]: that traffic will be impacted by. [2:15:38, 2:15:40]: Now you want to put apartments over here [2:15:40, 2:15:45]: Акросфром Спайві Глен, вич ви ар он Спайві Род. [2:15:46, 2:15:48]: And that will be disastrous. [2:15:49, 2:15:57]: People in Spivey Glenn will not in Spivey Glenn subdivision will not be able to get out of out of our subdivisions. There should not be any more apartments being put up. [2:15:58, 2:15:59]: It's just too much. [2:16:00, 2:16:20]: Now uh um with these ones going up on um on that plot of land by by coals, a four-way stops a four-way stop light is not gonna do anything for traffic on 138. Not a doggone thing. You're gonna also affect traffic on Mount Park on Mount Zion Parkway where where the brand smart is and [2:16:20, 2:16:21]: And the coals. [2:16:22, 2:16:26]: All of that, that's affected. Spear Road will be affected. That's a two lane highway. [2:16:26, 2:16:29]: Скулс а гна би афед, аз де сид. [2:16:31, 2:16:34]: Now you already have three buildings sitting vacant. [2:16:35, 2:16:38]: For years that have been that's partially complete. You have a hotel. [2:16:38, 2:16:41]: Right, that hasn't that just been sitting there for what, three years. [2:16:42, 2:16:43]: Unfinished. [2:16:43, 2:16:45]: next to a a liquor store. [2:16:45, 2:16:49]: So you already know what kind of clientele that's gonna break. That was a that was a terrible [2:16:50, 2:16:53]: Um idea. You have a building next to Wendy's. [2:16:54, 2:17:01]: And then you have a building next to Coles, which the grass is almost as tall as the building is, yet it just sits there unused for no reason. [2:17:01, 2:17:09]: But you want to bring apartments in. What is that going to do to our our our our property value, our property taxes, if it affects it at all? [2:17:12, 2:17:13]: Also [2:17:16, 2:17:22]: Uh let's see. The om I think I mentioned the overcrowding of the school system to traffic. [2:17:22, 2:17:25]: Um all these luxury apartments. [2:17:25, 2:17:36]: All develop all undeveloped land does not need to be built upon or extended, especially if it's gonna disrupt the if it's going to disrupt our quiet community. Thank you. [2:17:41, 2:17:42]: Okay. [2:17:42, 2:17:58]: Chairman chairman. Chairman, you have the um the option to if the if the um planning commission chooses to you have the option to offer additional time to those who still want to speak. That's per vote by the planning commission. [2:18:00, 2:18:01]: Good here. [2:18:01, 2:18:03]: [8285.0, 8291.1]: Go ahead. How many how much time would you like to allot, Chairman? Give'em five minutes. Five minutes. [2:18:27, 2:18:29]: Name and address, please. [2:18:29, 2:18:39]: Sherry Bivens, 8173 Masters Court, Jonesboro, of course. I live in Lake Spotify Club. Um [2:18:42, 2:18:43]: Pretty pictures. [2:18:43, 2:18:45]: Um they're very pretty. [2:18:46, 2:18:47]: What he showed. [2:18:47, 2:18:49]: And we've talked we [2:18:50, 2:18:51]: We've talked about [2:18:52, 2:18:54]: the traffic that [2:18:55, 2:18:55]: The [2:18:56, 2:18:58]: additional apartments and townhomes will bring. [2:19:00, 2:19:04]: We haven't even talked about the traffic that comes in for all the commercial space. [2:19:05, 2:19:06]: The the market [2:19:06, 2:19:11]: En and all the other the restaurants and so we haven't even talked about that traffic. [2:19:12, 2:19:23]: And you're talking about on a two-lane, every road that intersects there that is affected is two lanes. No one has said anything about infrastructure. [2:19:23, 2:19:27]: No one has said anything about scuols. [2:19:27, 2:19:30]: That is I mean this this is major. [2:19:31, 2:19:38]: This is going to affect our property values in such a negative way. I too am a realtor. [2:19:39, 2:19:51]: And everything that uh the gentleman there said is exactly right. The negative impact on residential um um subs the subdivision bringing in that type of um um high density. [2:19:51, 2:19:56]: um h um buildings, uh homes or apartments or whatever. [2:19:56, 2:20:01]: I'm gonna tell you, I am not naive to think that um [2:20:02, 2:20:03]: Ca growth? [2:20:04, 2:20:08]: is not going to happen. It should, it will. But the proper growth [2:20:08, 2:20:18]: Proper growth is welcomed. You know, I'm actually jealous of the of the um um the the prop the the project that's going on on on forty two. [2:20:18, 2:20:23]: The fifty five and older community, I'm jealous of that. I wish that's what was going on that property. [2:20:24, 2:20:31]: I know something has to go there. We all know something has to go there. That's growth. That's that's progress. [2:20:31, 2:20:33]: But proper growth. [2:20:34, 2:20:40]: And that is just not proper growth. I don't care how you look at it, it is not proper growth. [2:20:41, 2:20:42]: So I'm asking [2:20:42, 2:20:45]: I'm pleading, please don't do that to us. [2:20:46, 2:20:48]: We paid a lot of money for our homes. [2:20:49, 2:21:00]: And we we we and we we've we've enjoyed the luxury of where we live, the the the the how close it is to the interstate and all of that, but you're gonna get a lot of flight. [2:21:01, 2:21:04]: And it's going to affect the tax base. [2:21:04, 2:21:12]: Because the people who live in that community pay a lot of money to live in that community, not just for their homes, but in taxes. [2:21:13, 2:21:25]: So think about what it's gonna do to the tax base as well. And one other thing, I understand this is Henry County, but you know who's affected the most? Clayton County, because it is right at our door. [2:21:38, 2:21:51]: Good evening, Council. My name is Dave Murphy, 2877 Mandy Court, Lake Spivey, Georgia, Clayton County. I'm a longtime resident, uh moved in this area in 1996. [2:21:51, 2:21:55]: And just as everybody's already said, we have a good thing going. [2:21:56, 2:21:57]: It's a good area. [2:21:57, 2:21:59]: But we're starting to see it slip slip away. [2:22:00, 2:22:06]: Uh the best western has been vacated now for a while. Spive the commons, of course, we have a one tenant. [2:22:06, 2:22:10]: As you already know, that has been there and he's probably struggling right now. [2:22:11, 2:22:15]: Um a few inconsistencies with the applicant that we already know. [2:22:15, 2:22:21]: When I first met, uh heard this presentation, there was no business card that was given to us. [2:22:21, 2:22:34]: So I had to ask the gentleman what was what his name was, and uh he mentioned a celebrity that we know now is false. So from that point on, everything that you say past that, uh I can't even believe anything you're saying. [2:22:35, 2:22:40]: uh having saying you can build a townhouse for three hundred thousand that's that's that's false [2:22:40, 2:22:41]: Okay, so [2:22:42, 2:22:48]: Again, inconsistencies and statements that you can clearly Google and see. You can look up a lot of things that are being said. [2:22:49, 2:22:50]: Um [2:22:50, 2:22:54]: Right now we're trying to hold on what little bit of Clayton County that is livable. [2:22:54, 2:22:56]: And that is the Lake Spive area. [2:22:56, 2:23:03]: And if anybody was trying to build anything, you would think they would take the Lake Spoby name, that brand, and build upon that. [2:23:03, 2:23:19]: Because we have uh with the Lake Spivey Parkway, I was involved in that. I was involved with everything that is that you know about Lake Spivey right now. There's a whole uh consortium of neighborhoods. And uh the uh HOA president, you got Nikki Ford still over there if he's still hanging on. [2:23:20, 2:23:21]: But um [2:23:21, 2:23:28]: Again, we're trying to keep this area and we all still send tax dollars to s a stock bridge. All right. [2:23:29, 2:23:30]: That's all. Thank you. [2:23:38, 2:23:45]: Chairman, there needs to be a vote to allow for uh any more additional time to be given for this portion of the public hearing. [2:23:47, 2:23:49]: I have a motion to extend the time. [2:23:53, 2:23:55]: Make a motion extended time for a public hearing. [2:23:56, 2:23:56]: Oh second. [2:23:57, 2:24:05]: Been moved and seconded. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed, ayes having. Time is great. [2:24:06, 2:24:13]: My name is Loretta Clark. Step a little closer, I can't hear you. Step a little closer. My name is Loretta Clark. Oh, Roma. [2:24:14, 2:24:21]: Loretta Clark. I live at 124 Spike Ridge Circle and I've been there since they developed the um subdivision. [2:24:22, 2:24:30]: The only thing I have to say, I haven't heard about a meeting, but that butts right up to the back of my house. I want to know how that's gonna affect me. [2:24:30, 2:24:32]: Tell me that. Absolutely. [2:24:42, 2:25:02]: President, may I speak to him for one moment? I I'll answer it first and I'll let him speak. There will be uh the UDC w will calls for a certain amount of buffering. There will be uh plenty of buffering in between her residential uses and the and uh his development. So there will be a lot of landscaping and uh vegetation planted within the buffer. So she [2:25:02, 2:25:05]: Probably wouldn't even be able to see the the development. [2:25:05, 2:25:14]: Right. Uh to to echo that. All right, we would need to close the public hearing in order to um take comments from the applicant at this time. Okay. [2:25:15, 2:25:19]: Anyone else in support or opposition of the application? [2:25:21, 2:25:25]: And fill out parts, I think. Fill out parts. [2:25:31, 2:25:37]: How many additional minutes did we go? Five. Five minutes. Max for all parties. [2:25:42, 2:25:48]: It's got as an Israel quick and speaking block and uh [2:25:49, 2:25:50]: Yeah, I think. [2:25:50, 2:25:55]: Anybody anybody in the far? Yeah. [2:26:29, 2:26:49]: Okay, I'm uh Nikki Ford. I live at 205 Reeves Creek Way in Jonesboro, Henry County. Um I'm the president of Spivy Land Subdivision of HOA there, and uh also on the Lake Spivy Community Board. So [2:26:49, 2:27:09]: The consensus with most of the people that I've spoken to about this is the apartments. Um the presentation looks really good, but the apartments is still killing everybody. So I just wanted to at least express that on their behalf. [2:27:09, 2:27:21]: um that with the apartments coming across the street, which was a horrible move, that this this was also a concern with most of the neighbors. [2:27:22, 2:27:25]: Um other than that, the presentation looks real good now. [2:27:26, 2:27:29]: Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks. [2:27:36, 2:27:45]: Hello fellows, ladies. My name is Roger Wilson. I live at 118th Spider Ridge Circle. [2:27:45, 2:27:52]: in uh the spy ridge subdivision. This property is directly behind my house. [2:27:52, 2:27:58]: There's a small creek that runs behind my house between the property [2:27:59, 2:28:00]: That was mentioned. [2:28:01, 2:28:02]: And when it rains [2:28:03, 2:28:04]: That creek fields up. [2:28:05, 2:28:08]: From just uh residents that's in that area. [2:28:08, 2:28:09]: Yeah. [2:28:10, 2:28:13]: If you build more dwellings in that area. [2:28:13, 2:28:16]: Where the water gonna go? Going to that creek? [2:28:16, 2:28:18]: And they go float my house out. [2:28:19, 2:28:20]: And all the houses. [2:28:20, 2:28:21]: Behind there. [2:28:22, 2:28:23]: So [2:28:24, 2:28:26]: I pray that you'll approve this. [2:28:27, 2:28:30]: I'm a praying man. I'm gonna pray for you that you don't approve it. [2:28:31, 2:28:32]: Thank you, sir. Thank you. [2:28:38, 2:28:41]: This portion of the public hearing is closed. [2:28:42, 2:28:46]: I believe the applicant wants to speak again. I I would. [2:28:47, 2:28:59]: Uh just a few things that that was mentioned. Uh you're you're right. Spivey Commons has set empty for a very long time. [2:29:00, 2:29:08]: And it's not all the leases for that space have been signed. It's not, hey, this is possibly coming. [2:29:09, 2:29:10]: I do have [2:29:10, 2:29:14]: A contingency based off of this development. [2:29:14, 2:29:16]: Ford Nurris and Bloom. [2:29:16, 2:29:25]: As the gentleman said, the smoothie shop may be struggling because although we feel like we have the community to support it, we do need some more density. [2:29:26, 2:29:27]: In order to do [2:29:27, 2:29:40]: As far as the school system is concerned, this is why it is intentional to only have one and two bedroom apartments, which are for professionals at this price point, and for empty nesters. [2:29:42, 2:29:42]: I'm sorry. [2:29:46, 2:29:49]: Miss, miss, miss. Okay. [2:29:51, 2:30:00]: Um I I I want to address my affiliations. I I wouldn't think I would have to do that as a professional. [2:30:00, 2:30:05]: Yes, I am affiliated with Sakil O'Neill. I'm on the Saks Life Show with this project. [2:30:06, 2:30:14]: is being presented by TELUS Partners, who has the experience and the history and the track record of building great products. [2:30:15, 2:30:31]: I I as far as the buffer is concerned, there will be a buffer to where you will not be able to even see the multifamily. In addition with that, the multifamily will be completely gated and fenced in throughout the entire property. [2:30:36, 2:30:42]: It seems that the the residents are concerned about the apartments. You know. They're concerned about [2:30:42, 2:30:49]: I don't think they have any question about the townhouses. Mm-hmm. They're concerned about the apartments, you know. Um [2:30:51, 2:31:02]: You know, I I I see your point of view and I also see their point of view. You know, I mean and and I I think that you need to work out I I think you'd work out a compromise with the community about that. [2:31:03, 2:31:11]: You know, I don't I don't know. I mean, it does you know, one way or the other, I'm just saying I'm hearing from both sides, I'm hearing that you've invested a lot in this property. [2:31:11, 2:31:20]: uh that that you have uh very picturesque plan. This would be a hundred million dollar investment. I I I I understand that, but we also have two realtors here. [2:31:21, 2:31:27]: Who are really opposing it and I think that the real opposition to to your project is coming from the apartments. [2:31:28, 2:31:37]: I as as before looking at this pot of land, for one I did try to solve her problem. I understand the empty hotel across the street. I can't control that. [2:31:38, 2:31:43]: This empty property I could make a difference on that's turned into a dump site. [2:31:43, 2:31:48]: I also understand that this is a four lane highway divided by a concrete median. [2:31:49, 2:31:51]: That is right by the interstate. [2:31:52, 2:32:03]: Where else would I put a density project as such as this besides that property? And I'm trying to do that at the highest quality level as I can to set a new standard in our community. [2:32:04, 2:32:07]: Have you uh talked to the Department of Transportation? [2:32:07, 2:32:09]: [9129.8, 9135.0]: Which is which is why I was trying to take the go ahead, sorry. [2:32:15, 2:32:35]: It w is man it would be mandatory that he consult with G Dot and they would have a say so in in the property. Because it it fronts on the state highway, one thirty eight. It is a state highway and it is state DOT. Yeah. But that was also at why I wanted to look at the additional property because that U turn that does allow [2:32:35, 2:32:37]: That would be a left turn into the property. [2:32:37, 2:32:40]: So all the concerns in meeting [2:32:41, 2:32:47]: With Nikki Ford and all the residents that I have, I have consulted them throughout this entire process. [2:32:48, 2:32:58]: it i it wasn't without consideration of their value and their home values. And if we look at the trends from my real estate, unless my I have a broker who's here as well. [2:32:59, 2:33:00]: Any mixed use facility [2:33:01, 2:33:15]: It actually has done the opposite. It actually has increased their home values. Not just the apartments. This is a part of a full development that has commercial retail parks within it and walk the walking trails with connectivity. [2:33:18, 2:33:24]: Is i am I speaking correctly? Yeah, I mean you're bringing a commercial element, you're bringing it up. Please come to the mic, please. [2:33:36, 2:33:38]: Good evening. Um [2:33:38, 2:33:53]: Name and address. I'm Rob Franks, one twenty one North Main Street, Jonesboro, Georgia. Uh oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Did you get that or No, repeatedly. Okay. I'm Rob Franks, uh one twenty one North Main Street, Jonesboro, Georgia. [2:33:55, 2:34:15]: Time buff already. No, I'm just kidding. I was like, do I need to wait or just add a little levity to this one? All right. Yeah, no, we're actually trying to bring a commercial element back to the Spivey Commons Center for as a for instance. We handle the Spivey Commons Center. The big problem we've had there is that we don't have what the [2:34:15, 2:34:30]: tenants want, which is density right there at them. They're wanting walkability. They're wanting um a an item that we can't provide without having that literally at their back door. So of course it will bring [2:34:30, 2:34:36]: you know, it'll bring nourish and bloom, for instance, or others, it'll bring them into the area which then is [2:34:36, 2:34:42]: you know, attractive for the r rest of the residents. So I don't think it adversely affects the um [2:34:42, 2:34:47]: you know, the residence, I think it actually adds value because you're you have um [2:34:48, 2:34:52]: you know, additional businesses, additional opportunity, you know, located near you. [2:34:55, 2:34:55]: Well. [2:34:59, 2:35:02]: Okay, thank you, sir. All right, no problem. Thank you. [2:35:05, 2:35:20]: Some of the comments that are made are are outside the scope of our analysis. So we want to stick to what's appropriate to our analysis, uh the subjective criteria or the subjective comments that were made, we need to exclude those comments. [2:35:25, 2:35:25]: Okay. [2:35:27, 2:35:29]: Any questions up here? Any questions of the board? [2:35:31, 2:35:32]: Board have any questions? [2:35:32, 2:35:33]: I have a question. [2:35:35, 2:35:49]: What I'd would like to know is w what kind of relationship that you manage to talk to the homeowners about the property that you want to develop and did y'all hash out any type of agreement as far as uh [2:35:49, 2:35:55]: What you were gonna do on the property. I I don't really hear that from you. I I hear a [2:35:56, 2:36:01]: Some folks over here complaining about w what's not gonna benefit them. [2:36:01, 2:36:15]: But I hadn't really heard from you where you were saying what did you really work out with all these people here sitting here that's in opposition? Uh has there been any negotiation or [2:36:15, 2:36:20]: What you should and should not do with the property from these individuals I'm looking at tonight. [2:36:20, 2:36:40]: Uh yes, sir, there was. Uh their main concerns were about the the retail and wanting something to come there. Uh they identified and gave me a list of what they would like to see in order to shape that commercial space. And I changed [2:36:40, 2:36:45]: the landscape of that whole commercial space to actually adopt what they wanted to see there. [2:36:48, 2:36:52]: But that's not what they're saying. [2:36:53, 2:36:54]: Oh yeah. [2:36:55, 2:37:13]: never seen asking Excuse me, excuse me. Chairman, if if you would, anyone who speaks does need to come to the podium if we're gonna open it up for public hearing. Otherwise this is a conversation between the applicant and the planning commission. We would close for for public hearing. Go ahead, finish up. [2:37:13, 2:37:18]: Um I I I did as much as I possibly could. [2:37:19, 2:37:23]: Even before submitting the application, I reached out to these residents. [2:37:24, 2:37:29]: which is more than what most people in a development position would do. [2:37:30, 2:37:50]: i if I'm honest. Um I I did receive a list. Unfortunately if I was not able to contact you, I I apologize. I went through mainly the association leaders of Lake Spivey, uh starting with Susan Butler, Nikki Ford. Um I I I I did take an attempt to do that and make [2:37:49, 2:37:53]: make as many adjustments as I could to give them what they wanted, sir. [2:37:56, 2:37:57]: Okay. [2:38:00, 2:38:17]: Yeah, I I mean we did host a community meeting, um, which is actually where I met Dave Murphy and and uh we did invite all of the community to come give us their input. And I will mention that was prior to even submitting an application at all. [2:38:19, 2:38:19]: All right. [2:38:21, 2:38:22]: Okay. [2:38:28, 2:38:30]: I have a motion on this application. [2:38:32, 2:38:32]: Oh. [2:38:36, 2:38:47]: Mr Chairman Go ahead. I'm not one to be adversarial unnecessarily and I'm not one to rub the stamp either. [2:38:49, 2:39:07]: But I I in my heart I feel that we need to pump the brakes on this one. Pardon me? I feel that we need to pump the brakes a little bit on this development, in view of the fact that we just approved three hundred or store apartments across the street. [2:39:08, 2:39:10]: Oh [2:39:11, 2:39:18]: We talked about annexation of earlier in the in the meeting and when you look at the proposed annexation map. [2:39:18, 2:39:22]: A lot of these folk in this room are gonna be voting [2:39:23, 2:39:24]: Whether to [2:39:25, 2:39:28]: be annexed into the city of Stockbridge in November. [2:39:29, 2:39:30]: Um [2:39:34, 2:39:36]: I just feel kinda like [2:39:38, 2:39:41]: We dumping trash on their yard and then inviting them to a cookout. [2:39:43, 2:39:45]: If if if you [2:39:46, 2:39:47]: Amen. [2:39:49, 2:39:54]: If we want people to be a part of our city, I think we gotta treat them a certain way that [2:39:54, 2:40:06]: they feel respected and and I'm not degrading the project by no means. I mean I understand when you look at the map and the you especially when you overlay the floodplain on the map. [2:40:07, 2:40:09]: The property [2:40:10, 2:40:12]: A large part of it is not developable. [2:40:13, 2:40:16]: Because of the floodplain issue and and so I understand the density [2:40:17, 2:40:19]: that they uh they uh developer is trying to meet. [2:40:20, 2:40:24]: 'Cause he has certain objectives that he has to reach as well. And I understand that. [2:40:25, 2:40:36]: But in light of what we just did, we and I mean the city, what we did across the street, I I I kinda wanna pump the brakes a little bit on this one. [2:40:38, 2:40:39]: Oh [2:40:40, 2:40:48]: Does not mean I'm necessarily t a hundred percent against it. Doesn't mean that I'm necessarily a hundred percent for it, but I just think we need to slow down. [2:40:50, 2:40:53]: All right, what's your motion? I move that we deny it. [2:40:54, 2:41:14]: Um before you you do the motion, let me let me ask a few more questions. Do you mind, Mr. President? Um is is there some way that uh uh you can get with the patrons and renegotiate and look at everything uh with the people in the community? [2:41:14, 2:41:16]: Uh is is that possible? [2:41:18, 2:41:38]: I I think that would be the w the place to be with this project right now because of so much opposition. And uh I agree with Mr. Duma over Mr. Doom is over there. But I'm speaking from a business point of view. I think you need to get with the community, all the community leaders and see what you [2:41:38, 2:41:40]: What you guys can come up with. [2:41:40, 2:41:42]: That's where that development is concerned. [2:41:45, 2:41:49]: Are you seconding his emotion his motion? Yeah, I'm seconding his emotion. [2:41:50, 2:41:50]: Yeah. [2:41:53, 2:42:03]: Uh the motion for the application has been a motion has been to deny the application. It's been moved by Mr. Dumas, second by Mr Thibodeau. [2:42:06, 2:42:08]: All those in favor, let it be known by the signify. [2:42:09, 2:42:10]: Alright. [2:42:10, 2:42:12]: Uh those opposed. [2:42:14, 2:42:17]: Eyes have it, the application is denied. [2:42:18, 2:42:19]: Mr. Chairman. [2:42:20, 2:42:20]: Yeah. [2:42:23, 2:42:28]: Was the denial unanimous? [2:42:29, 2:42:32]: Or did we have any other votes? Yeah, it was unanimous. Okay. [2:42:45, 2:42:48]: Rezoning case is the next one is the seventh case. [2:42:54, 2:42:59]: Resonant case number two. Our meeting is still in session all. [2:43:00, 2:43:02]: You gotta get some order. [2:43:04, 2:43:08]: Tell the people to be quiet. [2:43:14, 2:43:23]: Resulting case 202204, Stockbridge Planning Commission will hold a public hearing on Thursday, August 25th, 2022 at 6:30 p.m. [2:43:24, 2:43:33]: Stockbridge City Council will hold a public hearing on Monday, September the twelfth at six PM in the Stockbridge City Hall, located at forty six forty North Henry Boulevard, Stockbridge, Georgia. [2:43:34, 2:43:40]: to consider a request for a change in zoning for twenty six point five total acres, plus or minus. [2:43:41, 2:43:43]: A rural residential. [2:43:43, 2:43:51]: Suburban residential and C2 General Commercial to PUD Plan Unit Development to allow for a mixed-use residential development. [2:43:51, 2:44:11]: Application by Highway 138 Spivary Road Land Assemblage to LLC, represented by Mr. Randy Stamy, the agent. The property contains twelve parcels of land in lot forty-two, district twelve, as are listed below within the stockbridge city limits. And the parties may attend the public hearing. Staff will [2:44:11, 2:44:12]: I hear your presentation. [2:44:13, 2:44:20]: Yes. If you look on the screen you'll see a map showing the the assemblage of the twelve parcels. [2:44:20, 2:44:23]: Uh the the applicants uh submitted a [2:44:24, 2:44:44]: Concept plan that shows the apartment the proposed apartment complex will be built in the southwest corner of the site with this entrance off Highway 138 West Lake Spive Parkway from Tributary Parkway, which is currently a dead-end street. The apartment leasing center along with the swimming pool will be located directly in front of Lake Spive Parkway. [2:44:44, 2:44:46]: [9887.8, 9907.8]: At the west side of Tributary Parkway. A new bridge will be built across or under Tributary Parkway, just south of the street's intersection with Berkeley Drive. A trash dumpster will be located on the Stubb Street off Tributary Parkway, and a large an enlarged stormwater management will be located beyond that. The proposed townhome community will be built at the [2:45:07, 2:45:27]: Northeast corner of the site with entrances of Berkeley Drive and Star Circle, which both lead to Spyber Road. The apartment complex will feature a leasing office with a miles with a mail center, a maintenance office, a trash center, and 500 parking spaces at a rate of 1.5 spaces per unit. A large dog park will be located to the north. [2:45:27, 2:45:47]: North of the apartment complex, and a military area is shown as part of the townhome community, and a small dog park will be located nearby. The applicant's proposal in its current form is not consistent with the low density vertical mixed use land use designation. The density for the proposed project is 13 units per acre, which places the proposed project [2:45:47, 2:46:07]: In the high-density residential land use category, which allows a density rate between 6 and 16 units. This rezoning proposal was accompanied by the Compran Amendment to change the land use to high density residential that would allow for the proposed development. This project meets one of the main goals and purpose and intent of the city of Stockbury. [2:46:07, 2:46:27]: Grid Unified Development Code, and that is to encourage the most appropriate and best use of land, buildings, and other structures throughout the city. The proposed in its current form meets the purpose and intent of the UDC. Also, the proposed project can serve as a catalyst for future commercial development in the city. The proposed mix [2:46:27, 2:46:47]: Residential development with townhomes and apartments would represent an acceptable land use transition between the existing single-family detached housing to the east and west and the existing retail uses along Highway 138 West and Mount Zion Parkway. The proposed project does not meet the threshold of a regional development review and therefore [2:46:47, 2:47:07]: Or the impacts from the proposed development will be considered acceptable and considered a normal part of daily living in an urbanized area. No trip generation memo has been submitted. However, since the proposed project will be located along the state highway, Georgia DOT and Heron County DOT will be required to be consulted and the [2:47:07, 2:47:23]: the design of the transportation network of the development, including ingress and egress. The developer will consult with officials from those two organizations to determine whether any road improvements or traffic signalization adjustments needs to be made along Highway 138. [2:47:24, 2:47:44]: The proposed development would meet the purposes of the Parkway mixed use overlay district. The project would feature a balanced mixture of residential densities and proposed commercial uses whereby residents can truly live, work, and play. The proposed development can be a panacea for future economic development activity in the target area. The subject properties are [2:47:44, 2:47:53]: As currently zoned, are less likely to be developed than a high-density mixed-use development due to the subject property location on a state highway. [2:47:54, 2:48:14]: Near Reeves Creek tributary and other environments environmental challenges and the lack of a pedestrian access for customers who are seeking neighborhood retail products and service. The subject property in its current form is less likely to be developed. Only a high density development would be feasible at the location because of its challenges associated. [2:48:14, 2:48:18]: associated with the land. A mixed use development with commercial uses will be more realistic. [2:48:21, 2:48:41]: And the proposed rezoning of the subject property to PUD would allow for such action. The rezoning of the subject property to PUD would allow for flexibility in design and greater usage of the total site area than with the current zoning. Staff recommendation. The planning and zoning staff recommends approval with conditions for the proposed rezoning of the [2:48:41, 2:49:00]: subject property from R R Rural Residential, SR suburban residential, and C2 General Commercial to PUD. The following conditions. The project will be developed in conformance with the City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code and all other code sections regulating site development standards and requirements. [2:49:03, 2:49:11]: Approval of CP 2022 to change the property's future land use density from low vertical to high density. [2:49:11, 2:49:25]: The rezoning shall not be finalized until the applicants receive approval for marriage for a recombination plat, and uh no land disturbance permit shall be issued for the subject property until the applicant has had the recombination plat officially recorded. [2:49:28, 2:49:28]: That's it. [2:49:30, 2:49:32]: Have the applicant come forward? [2:49:35, 2:49:35]: Yeah. [2:49:47, 2:49:50]: Uh once again, uh [2:49:52, 2:50:10]: We are looking to do a mixed use. Uh after a a market analysis of what would take to improve that area, we feel like the product that we're presenting it would set a new standard in this in this area uh in its entirety. Um [2:50:15, 2:50:22]: Is there any questions as I put up more of a presentation if you would like to refer back to that? [2:50:23, 2:50:24]: ovo je [2:50:25, 2:50:27]: Split up. [2:50:40, 2:50:45]: Uh once again I I'm it's blank, but uh [2:50:45, 2:50:47]: Again, I live in this community. [2:50:47, 2:50:50]: А мна пропозин анітін. [2:50:50, 2:50:57]: uh that I wouldn't want to live in myself to give you some examples of impact. [2:50:57, 2:51:03]: Of uh PUD such as this has had, we can look at Trilith and Fedville. [2:51:03, 2:51:05]: And look at the surrounding home values of that. [2:51:06, 2:51:13]: They've increased for over six hundred percent. You can check those facts. Uh if you look at Serum B. [2:51:13, 2:51:23]: uh in Palmetto. They've done very similar to the same, very s structure very similar to the same with the type of density that we had, some of them even more. [2:51:23, 2:51:30]: And these are rural places that they have put a PUD that has had a positive impact on that community. [2:51:37, 2:51:57]: Uh the townhome products that we are proposing would uh garnish from the professionals uh appraisals and standards from realtors would garnish that support of the mid-350s at 1,800 square feet, plus looking at what the home owners pay. [2:51:57, 2:52:02]: behind it that would actually increase their home values as far as comps are concerned as well. [2:52:08, 2:52:09]: Okay. [2:52:15, 2:52:17]: And it's [2:52:20, 2:52:21]: All right. Um [2:52:25, 2:52:27]: Any question from the board? [2:52:34, 2:52:36]: Open for c public comment. [2:52:39, 2:52:51]: Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am. Why do I have to fill out another card? [2:52:51, 2:52:52]: Give me a call. [2:52:55, 2:52:58]: Oh no, my partner had this face on this. [2:52:58, 2:53:11]: While she's filling that out, I'll go ahead. I my I already had a card that had this case and the last case on it. He filled it out for me. Robert Payne, uh Lake Sbobby. Um, listen, uh thank you so much for putting the brakes. Thank you for the extended time. [2:53:11, 2:53:16]: Listen, we're all about this positive development. We want to talk to the gentleman. I'm on the Lakes Bobby Board. [2:53:16, 2:53:19]: I was not given an invite to this whatever talk he had. [2:53:20, 2:53:22]: I'm on the Lakes Bobby board, been there for a decade. [2:53:22, 2:53:23]: Okay. [2:53:23, 2:53:26]: Number one. Number two, you cannot build that town home for three hundred thousand dollars. [2:53:27, 2:53:28]: It I I do it every day. [2:53:29, 2:53:35]: Uh the cost to build right now is at a minimum$175 a foot. That would make this three hundred and fifteen thousand dollars to build. [2:53:36, 2:53:45]: He cannot build that and sell it for that price and make any money. He can't do it. Okay. Well so your comment the comments limit to Sorry, please tell me. [2:53:45, 2:53:59]: The case yeah. And not but that it's the townhomes, right? I I understand, but we don't I don't know the price point. I don't know what it costs to to to construct it. So I'm an expert in the industry. Okay, all right. Uh forgive me. I don't if if you don't want me to, I won't talk about it. No, no, I'm just saying w we want to keep it. [2:53:59, 2:54:04]: The month before the board. We're talking about wait a minute, we're talking about the application. [2:54:04, 2:54:16]: Okay. Um the applicant has referenced that um this is increased values at Trilleth by six hundred percent. That is true because it's adjoining to the largest movie studio on the eastern seaboard. [2:54:17, 2:54:21]: This has no movie studio. Furthermore, Trilleth is vast majority. [2:54:21, 2:54:25]: single family homes with a small, small footprint. [2:54:25, 2:54:34]: of apartments. This is a large the application is a large footprint of apartment homes and a small footprint of town homes. It's quite the opposite. [2:54:35, 2:54:36]: Thank you so much. [2:54:37, 2:54:42]: He said he lives here. He does not. He does not live in that community. Uh that's not part of Well, he said it, sir. [2:54:43, 2:54:45]: He said it. All right, okay. All right. [2:54:46, 2:55:00]: Okay, I'm not gonna be long, but I'm gonna he trileth seems like something that he really promotes and he's proud of. Let me tell you, like I said, I'm a realtor. I had a client that moved here from um California just [2:55:00, 2:55:01]: Recently three [2:55:02, 2:55:15]: weeks four three four three four weeks ago and I was in search of a rental property for her in the Peachtree City area. You know how many pro you know how many uh uh properties came up in Trilliph that are for rent now? [2:55:15, 2:55:16]: Five. [2:55:17, 2:55:20]: Five and that's a very small community. [2:55:20, 2:55:23]: So five units for rent. [2:55:24, 2:55:28]: In that size of камін, дас а майже іпакт. [2:55:29, 2:55:30]: So you want to tout [2:55:31, 2:55:31]: Truly. [2:55:32, 2:55:33]: Let's just be [2:55:34, 2:55:37]: T lay all the facts out about what's going on in Trillieth. [2:55:37, 2:55:41]: Yes, it's in Peace Tree City. Yeah, their tax base is higher than ours. [2:55:41, 2:55:51]: But and yeah, and maybe they can support something like this. And maybe theirs would look like this, but I don't see uh that looking like that. Pretty pictures. [2:55:52, 2:55:53]: All right, thank you. [2:55:58, 2:56:04]: Loretta Clark, um I was very upset the last time. I'm not as upset now. [2:56:07, 2:56:10]: I'm thinking about my peace of mind, our peace of mind. [2:56:11, 2:56:13]: When I look out my back door [2:56:13, 2:56:15]: I don't wanna see an apartment building. [2:56:16, 2:56:19]: Way up there, and I don't want'em looking down in my yard. [2:56:20, 2:56:22]: I've been living there too long. [2:56:24, 2:56:29]: And it's a nice quiet neighborhood, even though there's a lot of crime starting in Henry County. [2:56:31, 2:56:35]: But I can see it getting way worse once we put this in there. [2:56:37, 2:56:37]: So [2:56:39, 2:56:40]: Thank you. [2:56:47, 2:56:49]: Um just do I have to say my name again? [2:56:49, 2:56:57]: Yes. My name is Lisa McFall, Min's By B Glenn Subdivision, five oh six Creekstone Drive. Just real quick. Um [2:56:59, 2:57:05]: We did have a a meeting, he did have a meeting, um and and the community did come out. [2:57:05, 2:57:06]: And discuss this. [2:57:07, 2:57:08]: The issue was [2:57:08, 2:57:11]: It was presented to us as he was only gonna put [2:57:12, 2:57:13]: Business is there. [2:57:14, 2:57:19]: Towards the end of the meeting is when he snuck in the the apartments in the town homes. [2:57:19, 2:57:21]: And that's when the meeting really got live. [2:57:22, 2:57:41]: So, and he lives in McDonough. He does not live in this community. This community, he may be a part of the overall area, but he does not live in the community where these apartments are going to be built, where these townhomes are going to be put. Across the street from where we have, we have two entrance. We have an egress and an e and uh ingress or entrance and an exit. [2:57:42, 2:57:45]: And where he's putting them will directly affect us. [2:57:46, 2:57:48]: So I just wanted to make that clear. Thank you. [2:57:55, 2:57:56]: Okay. [2:57:59, 2:58:00]: Any questions? [2:58:01, 2:58:03]: Board members, any questions? [2:58:09, 2:58:10]: May I have a motion? [2:58:12, 2:58:14]: Chairman, I move that we deny this request. [2:58:17, 2:58:18]: One second. [2:58:20, 2:58:26]: motion to deny the application by Mr. Dumas and second by Mr. Thibodore. [2:58:26, 2:58:29]: All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of I. [2:58:29, 2:58:30]: Uh [2:58:30, 2:58:36]: Aye. Aye. Opposed? Eyes have it. The application is denied. [2:58:47, 2:58:56]: The eighth case is a recombination plot case number RC 202201. The Stock Ridge Planning Commission will hold a public hearing on Thursday, August 25th. [2:58:57, 2:59:03]: Twenty twenty two at six thirty P. M. and the Stockbridge City Council will hold a public hearing on Monday, September the twelfth. [2:59:03, 2:59:09]: At six PM in Stockbridge City Hall, located at forty six forty North Henry Boulevard, Stockbridge, Georgia. [2:59:09, 2:59:15]: To consider a request recombination of plots approval for twenty six point five acres plus or minor. [2:59:16, 2:59:21]: And lot landlock twelve, district tw landlock forty two, district twelve within the Stockbridge city limits. [2:59:22, 2:59:23]: Application [2:59:23, 2:59:29]: By Highway one hundred thirty eight Sbobby Road Land Assembly Jell L C represented by Randy Spamy. [2:59:29, 2:59:41]: The agent to assemble twelve parcels of land that are listed below to form a development site for mixed use residential development. Interested parties may appear in here. Staff. [2:59:42, 2:59:57]: Uh the recombination plat approval is necessary to facilitate to facilitate the assemblage of twelve parcels of land to form a development site for the proposed mixed use development that we have been discussing tonight. If you look up on the screen you will see these are the twelve parcels of land. [2:59:58, 3:00:03]: That the applicant would like to combine. Uh staff recommends approval. [3:00:09, 3:00:12]: Okay, uh applicant. [3:00:21, 3:00:36]: Yes, uh council, we are looking to combine all twelve of those plats in order to do a plant use development, which per your recommendation will be working closely with the said present residents on what the use of that would be. [3:00:41, 3:00:42]: That's it. [3:00:42, 3:00:43]: Yes, sir. Okay. [3:00:47, 3:00:48]: Any uh [3:00:49, 3:00:52]: Public comment support opposing, I'm sorry. [3:00:52, 3:00:53]: Okay. [3:00:57, 3:00:58]: Again [3:00:58, 3:00:59]: Infrastructure. [3:01:00, 3:01:02]: І снареді скулс. [3:01:03, 3:01:03]: Not ready. [3:01:04, 3:01:05]: That's [3:01:07, 3:01:27]: It's it's nothing. They haven't told us, they haven't put anything before us to say this is what this is what we're going to do to improve, make sure that this improves your community, that it will not have a negative impact on your community, that the traffic will be uh alleve, alleviated by this. [3:01:27, 3:01:32]: This, this is what our plans are, this is what we're putting in place. We don't have any of that. [3:01:32, 3:01:42]: And I am not on my board, but I am very, very much in touch with the people who are on our board. I I knew nothing about a meeting. [3:01:43, 3:01:53]: And I live right there b um across the street almost. I live in Lakes Five Country Club, but their subdivision is across the street. So we're all really one community. [3:01:54, 3:01:58]: I knew nothing about that. I am very in tune what's going on in my community. [3:01:58, 3:02:01]: And I knew nothing about that. All right, thank you. [3:02:06, 3:02:18]: Uh Robert Payne Lakes Bavi, just making a note. He started the clock at five minutes, supposed to be ten minutes, so please don't cut me short. Oh, it's five minutes, but go ahead. It's been ten, all the others, but I'll I'll I'll defer to you, Chairman. Um listen. Um [3:02:19, 3:02:25]: Again, we as the board would love to see this kind of development come to fruition. We don't want the multifamily [3:02:25, 3:02:26]: But [3:02:26, 3:02:33]: Townhomes maybe? Fine. Come to us, talk to us. I would love to support you in getting nourish and bloom and some of these tenants. [3:02:33, 3:02:38]: I'll be your biggest fan,'cause it's gonna help me increase property values on the properties that I sell each and every day. [3:02:38, 3:02:40]: I'm there, but please come talk to me, number one. [3:02:41, 3:02:45]: Number two, as far as the assemblage is concerned, I'm asking for you to deny it. [3:02:45, 3:02:49]: If he if you assemble this property, you're gonna make this an easy property for him to offload now. [3:02:49, 3:02:53]: and uh to another developer that's gonna try and bring this multifamily in. [3:02:53, 3:02:57]: If you keep this separated right now, it's gonna make it a lot harder for him to offload this property. [3:02:58, 3:03:05]: Um I don't even know that all of it's even been purchased just yet, but that I'm not sure of that. But that said, um [3:03:06, 3:03:08]: There was one other thing I was gonna say. [3:03:12, 3:03:14]: Uh I I'll leave it at that. Thank you so much. Thank you. [3:03:19, 3:03:21]: Any questions from the board? [3:03:23, 3:03:25]: Any questions from the board? [3:03:26, 3:03:27]: May I have a motion? [3:03:30, 3:03:32]: Chairman, I move again to deny. [3:03:33, 3:03:34]: One second. [3:03:35, 3:03:42]: Mr. Doomas has made a motion to deny Mr uh [3:03:43, 3:03:55]: Triple Door has second. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed, ayes have it. The recombination application is denied. [3:04:01, 3:04:03]: Think that is the end of our agenda for today. [3:04:04, 3:04:05]: Yeah, project of [3:04:13, 3:04:14]: Project updates. [3:04:17, 3:04:17]: None. [3:04:18, 3:04:20]: Staff uh comments. [3:04:20, 3:04:21]: There are no staff comments. [3:04:22, 3:04:23]: Board comments. [3:04:25, 3:04:27]: May I have a motion to adjourn? [3:04:28, 3:04:29]: Motion to adjourn the meeting. [3:04:30, 3:04:32]: Been moved and seconded. [3:04:33, 3:04:35]: The motion adjourned is carried. [3:04:38, 3:04:39]: Oh. [3:04:52, 3:04:55]: Well thank you. [3:05:04, 3:05:07]: Uh seeing you. [3:05:08, 3:05:12]: Yeah, it's a good one. [3:05:13, 3:05:17]: Okay. [3:05:43, 3:05:46]: No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not the case. That's not the case. [3:05:52, 3:05:53]: I told you. [3:06:15, 3:06:16]: I mean that's good.