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--- title: Town Hall Meeting March 15 2018 date: 2018-03-15 source: 2018-03-15_Town_Hall_Meeting_March_15_2018.wav --- [0:00:25, 0:00:31]: [ 43.8, 63.8]: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for coming to the second part of our town hall series that we had. We will get started momentarily at 7 p.m. Thank you for coming out. This event is for you. It's orchestrated for you. We want to hear your concerns. We will present information getting you the facts. In the meanwhile, please [0:01:03, 0:01:23]: Please get a green card if you have any comments, um, any expressions, questions, anything you want to get out today, we're gonna use our green cards to write this down. And for the interest of time, we're gonna get to those questions and concerns as soon as possible by a show of hands. Who needs a green card for questions? [0:01:24, 0:01:25]: Is it right here? Okay. [0:01:26, 0:01:38]: So let us know throughout the presentation event tonight. Uh raise your hand. We're gonna get to those questions, but we need for you to write them down, okay? And we will start momentarily. Thank you for your time. [0:01:42, 0:02:02]: Yeah, so we need to work. Uh director. Would you say? Okay. Okay. [0:02:02, 0:02:10]: Wonder that she was gonna do something with the other. [0:02:35, 0:02:41]: A little delay. Hey. [0:04:39, 0:04:40]: [300.6, 301.8]: [0:05:02, 0:05:05]: Enjoy yourself, right? [0:05:19, 0:05:21]: [362.6, 370.0]: Okay. We'll put a bit sure to get placed before they get the seeds. Okay. [0:08:10, 0:08:26]: Yeah. We would ask um that uh the people sitting on the very back rows, if you all could squeeze in just a little bit more, we may be able to create a few more spaces. [0:08:29, 0:08:35]: We do have overflow down in the Leviar room where it can be watched live as well. [0:08:38, 0:08:40]: We will be starting in just a moment. [0:08:43, 0:09:03]: Is that making sure they sort of all over there? [0:09:03, 0:09:05]: You can see. [0:09:06, 0:09:12]: We do have one or two more seats, so if you're coming in, you can come in young lady over here to my left. [0:09:13, 0:09:20]: And we have about three more that's available on the back row, on the back bench. So you can come on through if you want it to be seated here. [0:09:40, 0:10:00]: Just a few housekeeping notes. Again, we are thrilled you are with us tonight for the second town hall meeting in a series that we have held over the last few months. This event is for you. It's for our community members to get the facts, the facts, okay? We're gonna clear those out tonight. If you have any questions or concerns about [0:09:59, 0:10:15]: about the involuntary deannexation of Stockbridge property, please put them on the green card. Any questions or concerns, we would prefer you write those down for the interest of time because tonight's event will be brief. We want to be conscientious of your time with us tonight. [0:10:18, 0:10:24]: If you need a green card to write a question or concern on, please raise your hand and one of our staff members will assist. [0:10:31, 0:10:32]: Those are two seats. [0:10:34, 0:10:40]: And we do have two seats to my left in the back. [0:10:55, 0:11:01]: [663.9, 665.0]: Yeah. [0:11:16, 0:11:19]: I think it's strong yeah. Um [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: Oh galaxy. [0:11:24, 0:11:44]: Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us for this town hall presented by the City of Stockbridge. Tonight we will specifically address questions, concerns, getting the facts to you about an involuntary deannexation proposal by one group of individuals to take property that legally belongs to the City of Stockbridge. [0:11:44, 0:12:04]: I'm going to present to you the layout for tonight's event that will be very brief. We do ask that you stay with us because we have important information all throughout the night. First we will have our official welcome from City Manager Wandy Knighton. Then we will have a presentation. [0:12:04, 0:12:24]: from you covering the legislative process dealing with this involuntary de-nexation proposal. Then we will have question and answer. And tonight we're going to be conscious of your time and we're going to use our green cards. So all throughout the evening, even when there's a presentation or someone is speaking, if you have any question that pops up in your head or [0:12:24, 0:12:44]: any concerns raise your hand and we will have a member of our staff team get to you and get you that card once you're finished with your questions or concerns if you would pass it to the end of the row and someone will collect them and we will try our best to get to each question and concern tonight. And at the conclusion at the question and answer we [0:12:44, 0:13:04]: We will have public comments from our elected officials. Right now, that will go accordingly to Councilman Elton Alexander will speak first. Then Councilman John Blount, followed by Councilwoman Neat Robinson, followed by Councilman Alfonso Thomas, followed by Mayor Pro Tem Lakeisha Gantt, and final comments will be provided by Mayor Anthony S. Ford. [0:13:04, 0:13:10]: Again, this event is for you. We thank you for your time and Randy Knight and City Manager will open with comments. Thank you. [0:13:12, 0:13:16]: Good evening again. My name is Randy Knight and City Manager of the City of Stockbridge and [0:13:16, 0:13:19]: I'm uh happy to serve in that role. [0:13:21, 0:13:41]: Uh thank you again for uh coming out tonight. This is a very important issue uh which has been before us for some time now, and uh obviously the city of Stockbridge has taken a very firm position on where we stand uh as it relates to this proposed deannexation. Uh the mayor and council are in unanimous support to oppose uh this. [0:13:41, 0:13:57]: this proposal and we have spent numerous hours at the Capitol speaking to various legislators and other parties regarding this matter. I would mention again that the mayor and council have done an excellent job in their leadership on this issue and others. [0:13:58, 0:14:18]: Again tonight we're here. This is a second town hall, as uh Shana uh Thornton mentioned, and tonight our format is a little bit different. We wanted to ensure that as many questions that you have can be answered, and that's why we're going to the question uh form uh format uh in order to ensure that we can [0:14:18, 0:14:38]: Get as many questions answered as possible. Uh the presentation by Camilla Moore will be very detailed and very thorough, and we're sure that a number of questions may be answered throughout that presentation, but we certainly want to give everybody an opportunity as best we can uh to be heard this evening. I would also emphasize that it's very important [0:14:38, 0:14:52]: uh... for you all of course to hear from your elected officials uh after the presentation is done. Uh so we certainly want to make uh ample time for the elected officials uh to speak to you uh directly. [0:14:53, 0:15:07]: All right, with that, uh we will go forward uh with the presentation. And again, we thank you very much for being involved. We thank you very much for um uh a presentation this evening. Before we get started, we will have an invocation. [0:15:09, 0:15:10]: Can we bow our heads, please? [0:15:12, 0:15:32]: Dear Lord, we are so thankful to be in your presence. We are so thankful to live in a great nation where we enjoy so many freedoms and liberties. We pray your blessing upon the United States of America and certainly upon the city of Stockbridge in Henry County. We pray your blessings upon us individually and collectively, and we pray your vision that this community is. [0:15:32, 0:15:50]: Will can continue to grow, prosper, and benefit all people. We pray your presence this evening, that what is said and done will be pleasing in your sight. And we pray, Lord, that as we leave this place, we will leave better than we came. In your Son Christ's name we pray. [0:15:51, 0:15:51]: Amen. [0:15:56, 0:15:59]: We end up from Randy, would you put it on full screen for me? [0:16:00, 0:16:00]: Okay. [0:16:08, 0:16:10]: There we go, let's see. Can you guys hear me? [0:16:11, 0:16:13]: Greening Stag! [0:16:14, 0:16:25]: Y'all may be a little bit better than the group last week. Uh media's here. People say you don't care, so let's let them know that you care. When I say good evening, Start Bridge, you say what? [0:16:26, 0:16:46]: We're here. Hi, my name is Camilla Moore, and I'm going to be presenting information to you tonight on this complex process of how you get a bill through and how it particularly pertains to the incorporation bills and the DNX section bills that will impact the City of Stockbridge. Now just a little bit about myself. I've been through eight [0:16:46, 0:17:06]: of these started with Sandy Springs, ending with the city of South Fulton last year. So when I tell you what has typically been done for the creation of the last ten cities, I give you my word because I've been through eight of them. So I know what has traditionally been the pattern to get you there and what is an anomaly. [0:17:06, 0:17:26]: Which is what we're going to talk about tonight. Everybody's with me? As I go through this process, if I'm going too fast, just raise your hand and that means I need to slow down. Okay? What I would like for you to do as I go through this presentation, if you have questions, when I get to a particular slide, just write that down and we'll make sure that the [0:17:26, 0:17:30]: And we answer your questions. You ready to get started? [0:17:31, 0:17:34]: Now everyone should have a presentation. If you don't, raise your hand. [0:17:35, 0:17:36]: Everyone got one? [0:17:36, 0:17:38]: Okay, here we go. [0:17:39, 0:17:59]: Many people say or have told us this has been a very complicated process because every time somebody says that it's over, then I look around and it's not over. Somebody says that something has passed, then I hear that it hasn't passed. So really where are we? This first page pretty much tells you [0:17:58, 0:17:59]: So [0:18:00, 0:18:20]: how bills are passed through two chambers of the Georgia General Assembly. So you know you have the Senate side, you have the House side, and then of course you have the governor. Typically what happens bills are introduced in either two forms, as a general bill or a local bill. [0:18:20, 0:18:37]: And in most instances, a bill would typically have a companion bill in the opposite chamber. And that's what we're going to talk about tonight. So the first slide gives you an idea of the process overall. [0:18:39, 0:18:55]: So now with that being said, what I would like for you to keep in mind is that on each side of the chamber you had bills. So on the Senate side, you had 262, which is a deannexation bill. [0:18:56, 0:19:08]: On the house side is companion. Deannexation bill was 638. Everybody with me? Deannexation, Senate 262, House 638. [0:19:09, 0:19:14]: The incorporation bill on the Senate site was 263. [0:19:14, 0:19:34]: Its companion bill on the house side was 639. So your incorporation bills was 263, right, and 639. So now let's talk about the two DNA two deannexation bills. Because when you guys heard that something was moving pretty fast. [0:19:34, 0:19:39]: Yes, it was a reference to de-annexation. [0:19:41, 0:19:42]: I'm gonna go to the next slide. [0:19:46, 0:19:49]: So let's talk about 638. [0:19:50, 0:19:56]: And two sixty two specifically. As I mentioned to you, a bill could be either local [0:19:56, 0:19:58]: Or it could be general. [0:19:58, 0:20:01]: Typically when a bill is local [0:20:02, 0:20:07]: It means that the bill is germane to a particular city. [0:20:08, 0:20:26]: So therefore someone can come in and say, you know, I want this for Stockbridge and this particular rule only applies to Stockbridge and it doesn't apply to any other city in the state of Georgia. And typically when you see local bills, that's typically what you will see. [0:20:27, 0:20:29]: Well we have an anomaly here. [0:20:29, 0:20:32]: In order for a bill to be local [0:20:32, 0:20:34]: The house rules say [0:20:35, 0:20:42]: All you need is five signatures from five members of your county delegation. [0:20:43, 0:21:03]: As you know, your delegation is made up, I think, nine or ten folks who touched some aspect of Henry County. So it only took five of them to sign a bill to make it local. Now, what is odd about this bill is [0:21:03, 0:21:12]: Is that in this particular case, you had five members from the Henry County delegation who chose to make this a local bill. [0:21:13, 0:21:19]: This is an anomaly to every other city that has been incorporated in the state of Georgia. [0:21:19, 0:21:39]: because they all were general bills. Now the reason why they probably took this route is because when you make it a local bill, it bypasses the traditional committee process, which we will talk about later. So typically when you get five signatures, one day within a matter of two days, it could be [0:21:39, 0:21:41]: be on the floor for a full vote. [0:21:42, 0:21:49]: because it bypasses subcommittees and committees, it goes directly on the consent calendar, and then it's voted on. [0:21:50, 0:21:59]: That's what happened with the de-indexation bills. And if you look at this page, it walks you through the process of what happened. [0:22:00, 0:22:08]: The community from Eagles Landing requested their delegation members to introduce a bill. They went to the Legislative Council. They drafted it. [0:22:08, 0:22:28]: Because it was a local bill, it automatically went on the consent calendar, and then it moved forward for a vote. And so there was not a whole lot of say-so about it. The respect of the rules of the house. If someone is going to do it local, then that's typically the process. The problem with that though is that [0:22:28, 0:22:46]: that that local bill is not just germane to Stockbridge. What is happening in terms of de-annexation affects every city in the state of Georgia, all 536. So therefore in an essence it is not a local bill, it is a general bill. [0:22:47, 0:22:59]: In all prior cases of all ten cities that were incorporated since Sandy Springs, all ten incorporated from unincorporated areas of the county. [0:23:00, 0:23:20]: Not in any instance did Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Tucker, City of South Fulton go into an existing city, de-annex part of it to create itself. So this is not local, because what this means that it could be Stockbridge today, it could be Buckhead tomorrow. It could be [0:23:20, 0:23:40]: Savannah two weeks from now. So therefore it really should have been a general bill, but it was introduced as a local bill. So what's the status on these two local bills? What happens? They're signed by signatures, right? Goes to the floor, vote, and it's done. [0:23:40, 0:23:40]: Mm. [0:23:41, 0:23:47]: So let's talk about the traditional way of how most cities actually come into existence. [0:23:51, 0:23:55]: She's been trying to learn how to work this here, not that way. [0:23:57, 0:23:58]: That's the same. [0:24:01, 0:24:05]: If you go to your page, uh page six. [0:24:07, 0:24:13]: That is going to give you the name of the five signers of the local bill. [0:24:13, 0:24:23]: Mr. Dale Rutledge, Andrew Welch, Brian Strickland, Kerry Matthias, David Knight, and Jeff Cobell. [0:24:23, 0:24:34]: They were the five members from the Henry County delegation that gave their signatures. And unfortunately about this, the people who sign your bill don't necessarily have to live in your city. [0:24:34, 0:24:53]: And that's one of the things that, you know, this process allows. They can sign bills to impact you when they don't even have to live there, nor do they have to represent you. They only have to represent a portion of Henry County to be a part of the delegation which allows you to introduce a bill. [0:24:55, 0:25:05]: Now let's talk about House Bill 639. Now this is the traditional route that Sandy Springs, Tucker, City of South Fulton all use to become a city. [0:25:06, 0:25:16]: Whenever a community wants to incorporate, the first committee that it goes to is the Governmental Affairs Committee. [0:25:17, 0:25:23]: That's on the house side. And then typically they will send it down to a subcommittee. [0:25:24, 0:25:26]: And that subcommittee we have a hearing. [0:25:27, 0:25:30]: from pros and cons as to why your city should exist. [0:25:31, 0:25:44]: And then if it passes the subcommittee, it goes back to the full committee, which is the government affairs committee, and then they take a vote. And then if they take a vote and it passes, then it is eligible to go before the rules committee. [0:25:45, 0:25:53]: for a vote. And if it passed the rules committee, at that point in time it goes to the full floor for a house vote. [0:25:53, 0:26:13]: So these are the steps. Introduce a bill, go to a committee, committee sends it to a subcommittee, subcommittee sends it back up to the committee, committee sends it to the rules committee, rules committee sends it to the floor for a full vote. And after it's a full vote, then it passes. The great thing about the wonderful and wise group of [0:26:13, 0:26:21]: of the rules committee. When this particular bill came before rules committee, which is Bill 639, it never made the rules calendar. [0:26:22, 0:26:24]: It never was given a hearing. [0:26:25, 0:26:26]: And it was never considered. [0:26:27, 0:26:30]: So therefore it did not cross over to the Senate. [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: Y'all can give that a clap. Come on, let him in. [0:26:36, 0:26:37]: Ciao. [0:26:37, 0:26:41]: Because it never passed the house. [0:26:41, 0:26:48]: The only bill that crossed over to the Senate was the which bill? They would they're dealt with what? [0:26:49, 0:27:09]: De-annexation. Okay? So you have a de-annexation bill sitting in the Senate from the House with no companion bill of incorporation. So it sits there alone. And typically that means that you don't have anything at this point happening on the Senate side because it does not have a [0:27:09, 0:27:29]: companion bill to be associated with. If you read the bills and all of them are on the line on the website, you they're proposing to de-annex to incorporate or add to something else. Well if you de-annex you got to have something to attach it to. The House never sent anything [0:27:29, 0:27:34]: over for the de-annexation portion to be attached to. So that's why it sits by itself. [0:27:38, 0:27:58]: So now we move to what the Senate did. So everybody with me, we followed how it all happened in the House, right? So now in the opposite chamber, which is the Senate, you have the same process. However, the Senate rules for them are a little bit different. The Senate rules do not have what they call [0:27:58, 0:28:00]: [1681.5, 1689.1]: So when the Senate looked at the bills that crossed over, they treated them both as general bills. [0:28:09, 0:28:28]: and decided to hear them together because unlike on the House side, the general bills go to one committee and the annexation goes to another, on the Senate side, because they don't have local bills, they both went to the same committee, which was the slogo committee. [0:28:28, 0:28:30]: So [0:28:31, 0:28:45]: Both of these bills set before the slogo committee. It was on again, off again, on again, off again, on again, off again. So finally when they had a hearing, here's the process of what happened to 262. [0:28:47, 0:28:53]: It was initially assigned to the Senate Local Government Option Operations Committee with the slogo, and it passed out. [0:28:54, 0:29:08]: Then it was assigned to the rules committee and it passed. And I need for you to remember that at each level when it these bills passed on the Senate side, they were very iffy. Nobody knew exactly how these were going to go. [0:29:08, 0:29:14]: So then it went to a full Senate vote and on the deannexation. [0:29:15, 0:29:17]: It fail by one vote. [0:29:18, 0:29:21]: On the incorporation, it fell by two. [0:29:22, 0:29:27]: And at that point in time, both bills from the Senate [0:29:27, 0:29:36]: were then allowed to cross over to the House because March the 28th was the crossover date. [0:29:36, 0:29:37]: Okay. [0:29:38, 0:29:41]: The same thing applied to 263. [0:29:42, 0:29:43]: However [0:29:44, 0:29:49]: Immediately after the bills crossed over, this is where it got real interesting. [0:29:49, 0:30:02]: Because typically when bills cross over, they really don't hear them until actually the crossover date, which is at the March 20, uh February 28th, so March 1, you start here having hearings. [0:30:02, 0:30:04]: Immediately we saw [0:30:06, 0:30:17]: the Senate Bill two sixty three appear before the intergovernmental before the government affairs committee, which was kind of unusual. And so when we went down to [0:30:18, 0:30:19]: The hearing [0:30:20, 0:30:23]: What the hearing was about was a substitute [0:30:23, 0:30:31]: amendment to Senate Bill 263 as it related to homestead exemption. [0:30:32, 0:30:39]: And what they were asking was that the homestead exemption language that was originally a part [0:30:40, 0:30:43]: of the bill that crossed over from the Senate. [0:30:43, 0:30:47]: that was in that be removed from the bill. [0:30:48, 0:30:50]: And at that point in time. [0:30:51, 0:30:59]: The government affairs committee allowed them to remove the homestead exemption information from the bill. [0:31:00, 0:31:05]: It still has to go to the rules and then it still has to go back to the Senate. [0:31:05, 0:31:09]: Because typically when the bills don't agree. [0:31:09, 0:31:28]: When you start amending each other's bills, then it has to go back to the original house where it originated from, and then that chamber has to agree or disagree to your amendments, and in many instances they have to have what what they call a conference, okay? [0:31:29, 0:31:30]: So [0:31:30, 0:31:41]: What has occurred since that time was that members of the General Assembly raised the constitutional issue with the bill 262. [0:31:42, 0:31:49]: For all of the ten bills that passed from Sandy Springs to South Fulton and Stone Crest last year. [0:31:50, 0:32:10]: Every single bill for incorporation had homestead language. And the reason homestead language was there, as well as your ability to tax yourself, is so that when a city, if they choose to tax themselves, will be able to give you an exemption at the [0:32:09, 0:32:29]: municipal level as well as at the county level. Everybody's with me? Okay. So no other city incorporated without having homestead because in every instant the General Assembly knew that new cities were going to have to have city property taxes in order [0:32:29, 0:32:39]: to operate thereby giving them homestead exemptions so that they could give those exemptions at the municipal level to their residents. Everybody's with me. [0:32:40, 0:32:57]: However, a challenge was raised as to the validity of 263 as it crossed over and whether or not it crossed over in its proper form because all the other cities required a two-third vote. [0:32:57, 0:33:03]: in order for the bill to pass. This bill lacked [0:33:03, 0:33:21]: Two-thirds. Remember, it passed by a simple majority. On one shy one vote, on the other one, Shy two. So therefore, it never left the Senate in the proper form in which a two-thirds vote was required. [0:33:22, 0:33:30]: The Legislative Council for the General Assembly has done a letter that basically said, in essence, when that bill left. [0:33:31, 0:33:41]: the Senate Chamber, it should have left with a two-third vote's passage and if it didn't, it did not cross properly. [0:33:42, 0:34:00]: So what does that mean? That means we're gonna have to wait and see. Right? Because right now, in essence, you actually have action on a bill on the House side that is really not a valid bill because it did not cross over properly in the form which it should have with a two-thirds vote. [0:34:01, 0:34:21]: So where we are now on the Senate side, you're not going to see anything because it doesn't have a companion bill to connect it to. The two de-annexation bills have both passed because five people signed for it to be a local bill, would allow it to move quickly, both of them. So they're in what they call the [0:34:21, 0:34:41]: Hopper, which means that if 263, which is the only thing left, should come out and move through the process and go back to the Senate and all those things, which were to give it a companion bill, then that and that bill could then go to the governor for him to take action. And his choices are these to sign [0:34:41, 0:34:50]: To veto or to not sign. A no sign means that the bill will in essence become law. [0:34:50, 0:34:53]: after forty days. So therefore [0:34:54, 0:35:14]: Right. What I mean by signature, somebody say what does that mean? That means that if he doesn't sign it, he has the option to sign bills with a signature. He can veto it or he can do nothing, but that means a no sign. The state statute says that all bills which have he does nothing to automatically become law. [0:35:14, 0:35:18]: After 40 days. That's how it's written in the state of Georgia. [0:35:19, 0:35:39]: So right now everyone has been put on notice about the constitutional challenge. We're waiting for uh the House to decide whether or not they want to take any further actions on 263, and the Senate has been on notice to decide whether or not what they want to do with an unconstitutional bill. [0:35:39, 0:35:59]: When it comes back to them, if it comes back to them, so therefore we would have to see. We have approximately five legislative days left, and then the session is over. So therefore we will have to watch for the next five days to see whether or not there's any movement in the House, and then we [0:35:59, 0:36:05]: We have to watch and see if there is any movement in the House, what the Senate will do, and whether or not [0:36:05, 0:36:10]: it goes anywhere. Now what are the impacts on you as residents? [0:36:12, 0:36:16]: As you guys know, you do not have a city property tax. [0:36:16, 0:36:24]: And for those of you who that who really want the details, if you go to the city's website, you will find all of [0:36:24, 0:36:44]: the areas in which the city of Stockbridge are impacted. But let me just say this. This is such an anomaly and has never been done in the state of Georgia ever. And so therefore a lot of legislators are a little nervous and so because they understand that this is not just about Stockbridge, but this is about Savannah. [0:36:45, 0:36:47]: I mean this is about Atlanta. [0:36:48, 0:36:50]: This is about Marietta. [0:36:50, 0:36:52]: This is about Deloniga. [0:36:53, 0:37:13]: This is about any city that exists today that will could be impacted by this. Now people say how. Because I've seen various comments that say, you know, cities don't have bond ratings really, or cities should not be concerned because it doesn't impact them. [0:37:13, 0:37:24]: This building in most cities build buildings like this, they do your streets, they normally do it through bonds, right? [0:37:25, 0:37:45]: If your boundaries are not stable, and if the group of individuals that contribute to paying off your debt is not stable, then your ability to borrow money is impacted. So we had an independent bond firm, not on our payroll. [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: We just asked them to do an analysis of what this would do based on bonding. And their their findings was this. Georgia as a whole would lose business, would just do a automatic drop because no city would be able to borrow money. [0:38:05, 0:38:16]: Because in terms of bonds, no one would want to take the risk of saying that you have a hundred people today to deal with the debt, but tomorrow you may have twenty people. [0:38:17, 0:38:32]: And so therefore the ability to pay off the debt is the question that arises, and that's why bonding becomes an issue, not only for Stockbridge, but also for Atlanta, which is the the hub of the state of Georgia. [0:38:33, 0:38:41]: We don't have a property tax. So therefore, because 50% of the city of Stockbridge is gone. [0:38:42, 0:38:46]: then guess who has to pay off this building? [0:38:48, 0:38:50]: Those of you that are left. [0:38:51, 0:38:54]: So our argument has been for the folks. [0:38:54, 0:38:56]: Of Eagles Landing that want to create a city. [0:38:57, 0:39:00]: If you want to take 50%, then take 50% of the debt. [0:39:01, 0:39:02]: Right. [0:39:03, 0:39:09]: Don't take the people and leave the debt on those that are left behind. [0:39:10, 0:39:26]: From an economic perspective, even though they're alleging by their own words that the demographics has changed, so therefore economic development can't come to Stockbridge, it's our belief that an imaginary line is not going to determine whether or not Papados come. [0:39:27, 0:39:29]: Or not. [0:39:29, 0:39:30]: Okay. [0:39:30, 0:39:38]: What does impact us from an economic perspective is that your housing values change. [0:39:38, 0:39:58]: Because you're losing 50% of your population, you're leaving a certain population left to pay off the debt. So therefore, how many people want to move to a city in which you already got debt? They don't want to come and inherit debt of those that left, right? So from an economic perspective, it will impact you. [0:39:58, 0:40:16]: and everyone in Stockbridge. We have current contractual obligations on this building and of course to our water sewer. We talked about the impacting on the bonding capacity. We talked about how it impacts every other city in the state of Georgia and needless to say that it's polarizing. [0:40:16, 0:40:26]: You know, at the last town hall meeting, we had people to stand up and say that on flipping road, that based on their proposal, the church is on one side and the cemetery is on the other. [0:40:27, 0:40:39]: So therefore, it becomes polarized because this proposal chooses to separate communities from each other. In two years, Stockbridge will be 100 years old. [0:40:39, 0:40:42]: It is the birthplace of Daddy King. [0:40:43, 0:41:03]: And a hundred years means something because a lot of cities are not a hundred years old yet. And so this proposal would be a setback when they start saying we want to revise the charter for the city of Stockbridge when generations after generations were born here, lived here, died here with another generation. And so that is how [0:41:03, 0:41:08]: how we will be impacted. Now let's talk about in terms of what it is we need for you to do. [0:41:10, 0:41:30]: The opposition has said that the people want to go into a new city. And maybe some of them are here tonight and maybe they can tell us or answer some questions, but we haven't been able to find that groundswell of individuals who [0:41:30, 0:41:50]: say they want to leave. And so but they told people at the General Assembly that they had been getting all these calls and that people really wanted to be their own city. And when we asked well what do you have to show for and it was like well that's just what they said. So what we need for you to do [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: is to sign a petition. [0:41:52, 0:41:58]: Because rather than us telling them what we think, we want to prove to them what we know. [0:41:59, 0:42:10]: We want to be able to take to the General Assembly all of your names that basically say that you object to this de-annexation and the 50%. [0:42:11, 0:42:31]: of of Saga Ridge property and the destruction of our city as a whole. So we need for you one to do your own petition if you haven't done that and you can do that online. The second thing we need for you to do is that we have a walking list that we need many of you to walk and get petitions for us. [0:42:31, 0:42:31]: Yeah. [0:42:31, 0:42:45]: so that we can attach those petitions with yours so that we can take down to the gold dome. And when you leave here there's a table outside and in at the table you will get a pack of petitions. [0:42:46, 0:43:00]: door hangers and all the goodies that you need to actually go door to door to get petitions and to leave them information. Now the bad news is for most of you your subdivisions were probably taken last week. [0:43:01, 0:43:18]: The good news is you get to meet some new folks. So we're going to need for you to actually canvass those neighborhoods that are left out there that needs to be canvassed. The other thing that we need for you to do in your package, if you turn to page 21. [0:43:23, 0:43:33]: When you go to our website, it's going to give you a list and email address of every single person in the house. Okay? [0:43:34, 0:43:36]: We need you to email them. [0:43:37, 0:43:57]: Now some of you say, well, would a call be better? The problem with the calls is that if you've been over there, they have like one person to like 10 legislators, right? So you got one person, she's answering the phone call for 10 people. So you know while you're calling in, she'll say, thank you for calling, Congressman Smith Scott. [0:43:57, 0:44:06]: Thank you for calling Congressman Douglas. Thank you for calling Congress. I mean, I mean shouldn't just say thank you, but because she is a state employee. [0:44:07, 0:44:17]: She's not hired by an individual's legislator. We're not quite sure that they would ever know that you call. You get my point? But one thing that we do know, they do read their emails. [0:44:18, 0:44:29]: Because they these are the emails that they give to their constituents so that they can email them their concerns. So we're asking that you email every member. [0:44:30, 0:44:48]: of the House of Representatives and tell them no movement on this bill and tell them we don't want it to see the light of day. And however you want to say it in your own voice, we need for them to know that we do not want this to happen. Okay? [0:44:49, 0:44:50]: Then we need for you [0:44:51, 0:44:55]: to actually go and visit on the website. [0:44:56, 0:44:58]: The the link to the governor's office. [0:44:59, 0:45:02]: And your information to him needs to be vetoed. [0:45:02, 0:45:05]: If any of these come out, we want you to veto it. [0:45:05, 0:45:13]: And when you go to the Senate side, all of the Senate emails are there as well, as well as the Lieutenant Governor. [0:45:14, 0:45:18]: We need for you to email them and say no to this bill. [0:45:19, 0:45:32]: That is where you can help us individually and also pass this information to all of your neighbors so that they will do the same thing. I think we can't say enough. [0:45:33, 0:45:49]: how concerned we are about what is happening. Initially when this happened everybody kind of laughed. I mean even people under Goldone would say this is not going to get any traction. I mean who in their right mind would actually think about taking land from a sovereign [0:45:50, 0:46:08]: city. Stockbridge is a sovereign community that the Georgia General Assembly would bypass the rights of US citizens and this governing body and say we're going to take away your right as a sovereign entity and we will decide. [0:46:09, 0:46:13]: What we're going to do with your city and your legacy. [0:46:14, 0:46:16]: We we thought it was a joke. [0:46:16, 0:46:34]: But now we know it could be a reality, and we're going to have to press in with everything we have as a community collectively together to make sure. I have said from day one, I've been through this eight times, that if the people of Eagles Landing want to be a city, [0:46:34, 0:46:42]: Do it like the one I just created, the city of South Fulton. Go behind into unincorporated Henry County. [0:46:43, 0:46:45]: Draw you a boundary. [0:46:45, 0:46:56]: create you a city and you can join Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Tucker, Brookhaven, Stone Crest, everybody else. But do it the right way. [0:46:57, 0:47:15]: Do it the way the law has allowed cities to incorporate. Do not change the laws of the state of this Georgia that opens Pandora's box and will have cities pitted against each other and communities destroyed because a group of citizens. [0:47:15, 0:47:18]: decided they don't like you today. [0:47:18, 0:47:20]: But they might not like you tomorrow. [0:47:21, 0:47:28]: and can hop from city to city to city until no cities exist. [0:47:29, 0:47:32]: The portion on DNXation, and I'm going to end with this. [0:47:32, 0:47:44]: Someone has asked, well, what if the governor goes ahead and signs the deannexation bills? That means that all of you will be without a home for three years. [0:47:47, 0:47:56]: I know that would get you. That means that you'll be out there in the wilderness because you would have been de-annexed without a place to go. [0:47:58, 0:48:06]: That's why we're hoping that he does not until he has something to attach it to. [0:48:07, 0:48:17]: And so at this point, I think you all have done uh questions. If you have filled them out, would you raise your hand and we will collect them? [0:48:19, 0:48:28]: All right everyone, thank you so much. What a great presentation. There was a lot of information included, but we let's give a round of applause. Let's Camilla Moore. [0:48:33, 0:48:53]: We're interested in getting you the facts. And you have questions, we have answers. We're going to answer as many as we can tonight. But I know Camilla mentioned it. Also, Mr. Knighton, do visit our website because it's a very engaging website. We're keeping the conversation going. We're updating the website daily. They're new information coming out. This is an ongoing [0:48:53, 0:49:13]: Legislative process and it is not over. Okay, it is not over. We don't want anyone to use fear or intimidation. This is far from over. Our first question: Will the citizens have a chance to vote at large? Everyone. No, and I think this has been our argument under the Gold On because the other side said. [0:49:13, 0:49:33]: All we want you to do is to give us the right to vote. Now, that is something that Sandy Springs said, that is something that Tucker said, that is something that Stonecrest in the city of South Fulton said. We said, give us the right to vote, but the we were unincorporated in. [0:49:33, 0:49:43]: areas. What this bill does, it only allows 50% of Stockbridge to vote. Those people that we call in the bubble. [0:49:43, 0:49:49]: But the people that are left behind who are gonna have to pay off this building and the bond debt [0:49:49, 0:49:52]: The bill says you have no voice. [0:49:52, 0:49:54]: You don't get a right to vote. [0:49:55, 0:50:15]: You don't get a right to say no because the 50% of the people that you've taken from my city leaves a burden, a financial burden on me, and therefore I should have a voice. They have said you will not have a voice. And if the bill is passed today, only those individuals [0:50:15, 0:50:17]: in the bubble will be allowed to vote. [0:50:19, 0:50:32]: Camilla, our next question is from a concerned citizen. Uh he or she says, I hope this deannexation does not pass. But how much of the current debt will this new proposed city take away with them? Zero. [0:50:40, 0:50:45]: The next question from a concerned citizen. Will the value of my house go down if this passes? [0:50:46, 0:51:06]: Well absolutely, because the remaining folks are the only folks left to pay the debt. So who wants to come by your house, right? When you put it up for sale, right? And everybody know that your value is attached to comps, right? I mean the house around the corner sells for a certain amount of money, man, that increases your assessed value. [0:51:06, 0:51:24]: But you won't be selling any houses because no one wants to come into a community that they have to pick up the debt that someone else has left. Left. So yes, that will be an indirect impact on your property values. Another concern citizen asks, what is the official position of the Henry County Board of Commissioners? [0:51:25, 0:51:27]: Uh I think they've uh [0:51:28, 0:51:48]: I think they took a vote and I think in the newspaper you can find that article. I think their vote was that they're neutral, if I'm not mistaken. That is the vote that they took as a body. However, I think there were two commissioners, two uh two commissioners that actually spoke out uh in support of of Stockbridge, I think within the last two or three [0:51:48, 0:52:08]: weeks but in terms of a board position, it's my understanding that their legal counsel for the county advised them that they need to be neutral and that is their positions, which is very atypical. I mean we wish Fulton County had been neutral when we was trying to incorporate my God, we were fighting them day and night and every day they were talking about why we shouldn't become a city. [0:52:08, 0:52:13]: So this is the first time I've ever seen a county silent on this type of issue. [0:52:13, 0:52:16]: Thank you. One one second. [0:52:16, 0:52:36]: Um just just I think it is um just to um get an understanding, fifty percent of our tax base, commercial base, is being taken away. Nine thousand of the citizens of Stockbridge would would only only nine thousand out of the twenty seven, twenty eight thousand [0:52:36, 0:52:39]: thousand we have would have the right to vote. [0:52:40, 0:53:00]: Okay? So ev it affects all of us, but only nine thousand will have the right to vote. And in addition to that, uh when it comes down to the uh commissioners, they did take us uh the their attorney asked them to remain neutral. However, we did have two commissioners who uh [0:53:00, 0:53:20]: Commissioner Bruce Holmes who is against it altogether, um and he's in District Five, and Commissioner D. Clemens who stated that she is against deannexation of any city to form another city. And everyone else stated that they would remain neutral at that time. But other comments, but [0:53:19, 0:53:22]: they wanted to let you I mean they did speak out. [0:53:25, 0:53:33]: Excuse me, excuse me. Uh to add to that in general is that the Henry County delegation represents you. [0:53:33, 0:53:51]: Okay. You have to ask yourself how is it that can be neutral when a city of this site could be broken in half? As well, my own personal position is that you should be calling those representatives asking them why they're not taking a position in such a vital issue. [0:53:53, 0:53:54]: Okay, next question. Okay. [0:53:55, 0:53:56]: Another city. [0:53:56, 0:54:16]: Go ahead, go ahead. If you have any questions, we're asking that you please use this the information, the screen card, and we're gonna get to those. We're gonna use the cards tonight, sir, just for the interest of time, because thank you. This way everyone can get out. If you're interested in speaking with any of your elected officials, you can do that at the conclusion once it ends. So we always encourage. [0:54:16, 0:54:17]: Yeah. [0:54:18, 0:54:28]: N next question, Shayna. Okay, sir. Sir, we're gonna go ahead with another interested citizen. Said has it been determined if the homestead exemption will last if this passes? [0:54:29, 0:54:38]: For for who? City of Stockbridge. Well okay, let me explain how homestead exemption works and I think s some folks on the other side has are a little bit confused. [0:54:40, 0:55:00]: Remember I mentioned that all the other cities when they incorporated two things that they gave cities the right to do. One, to tax yourself, two, to have a homestead exemption. Now for those of you who've been around here a long time, there was a time in which Stockbridge had what? Property taxes. [0:55:00, 0:55:05]: They didn't have them at one time because at that point in time [0:55:05, 0:55:15]: they were allowed to use the full strength of their charter and institute a property tax. However, as the commercial base grew, [0:55:15, 0:55:35]: And the city became more and more financially stable, the powers that be decided, at that point in time, there was no longer a need to have a property tax, so therefore there was not a need for them to apply the homestead exemption because they weren't taxing you. Does that make sense? Now that's for a city that's a hundred. [0:55:35, 0:55:36]: [3337.8, 3354.8]: a hundred years old. Cities who are just starting up, they don't have that luxury. Because you're going to have to pay for a city manager, you're going to have to pay to operate, you're going to have to pay rent light and all those things. So therefore that's why in every instance in the past they've given you those two options. [0:55:56, 0:56:16]: This question comes from a local business owner in the city of Stockbridge. How will businesses that remain in the city, if this proposal goes through, how will we be impacted? Well, but they say taxes, taxes, taxes, right? I mean, um, I mean that's it at the end of the day. I mean services have to be paid for, right? [0:56:16, 0:56:36]: I mean the delivery and demand doesn't decrease. I mean it's always going to be a demand there for services. So at the end of the day, none of us will be better off because in order to compensate for the businesses that are left. Now mind you, they're they cherry-picked businesses. [0:56:36, 0:56:50]: businesses in Stockbridge to help them thrive. So when you take though that economic factor that we have that allows you to have no property tax, again those that are left are gonna have to pick up that burden and and use of this through taxation. [0:56:52, 0:57:03]: The next question from a citizen said, if this proposal does pass, and emphasis, I don't hope I hope it doesn't, rather, but would Stockbridge have the authority to annex adjacent unincorporated properties? [0:57:05, 0:57:06]: I mean what's gonna be left? [0:57:07, 0:57:27]: I mean I think the only thing left would be the island, as most of you know, that's uh the northern part of Stockbridge, which they tried to have the legislator give us without asking those people that they want to be in Stockbridge. Um and that's about it, because remember we almost landlocked ourselves. And basically if Eagles Landing [0:57:27, 0:57:32]: comes in and takes 50%, where can we go south? We can, right? [0:57:33, 0:57:53]: And we're sitting right here on the Clayton County line, right? So therefore this really stagnates the ability of Stockbridge to grow. And that's why in every other instance, when Stone Crest came on board, the General Assembly said, you're too large. We need for you to pull back. So Decatur and these other cities have room [0:57:53, 0:58:07]: to grow and that's typically what you see. They don't like for you to landlock another city without giving them the potential to do just that. And what this bill does, it would deny Stockbridge the opportunity to do just that. [0:58:09, 0:58:11]: Okay, I have a question, sir. Let me do something. [0:58:12, 0:58:32]: If you don't mind, let me just say this to you. You know, on that question, if this happens, then if you're talking about other annexations that we would have to look at, this council would have to decide that through through conversation with you. Okay? So it's it's uh I understand her explanation and everything, but that's something we would look at. Now, granted, I would say strategically we haven't looked at that. [0:58:32, 0:58:52]: Because we're prayerful and we know that we're going to win this particular battle. But good question, but something that we would have to discuss. And obviously as we discuss that, you'll know that and see that and you'll have interaction with us about it. Okay? Thank you. And on the portions that they gave us, uh right now, if you look at our map over there, we're landlocked. If um [0:58:52, 0:59:12]: If Eagle landings occur. You see that big gap in the middle of the map? That's pretty much all we have left because we'll be landlocked. And so Marin Council can decide if they want to take in those folks, but those folks would have to ask to come in. I mean we do believe in people asking. This myth about Stockbridge doing a land grow [0:59:12, 0:59:31]: grab and that all of a sudden all the folks in Eagles Landing were forced to come into Stockbridge. People, it is not true. Eagles Landing was brought into Stockbridge. Stockbridge made Eagles Landing. Eagles Landing did not make Stock Bridge. Let's be clear. Okay [0:59:32, 0:59:34]: All the properties. [0:59:34, 0:59:42]: of Eagles Landing and all those subdivisions, Winslow and all of those, were brought in by the developer. [0:59:43, 1:00:03]: The country club got in Stockbridge because they wanted to sell alcohol. And Henry County was dry. So Stockbridge didn't do a massive land grab. We have posted all of the minutes on annexation on the website. So don't take it just by word of mouth. Go read the minutes for yourself. [1:00:02, 1:00:16]: yourself and you will see how certain people annexed certain parcels to get to certain parcels because those folks wanted to come in for a certain reason. And now that the same people [1:00:16, 1:00:29]: who did all the legal work and did all the other stuff to bring them into Stockbridge are the same people who now want to undo their work and create another city. [1:00:31, 1:00:33]: The feasibility study [1:00:33, 1:00:53]: That they tried to give us most of it, if you go up to the website, you're going to see the feasibility study in terms of the impact on Stockbridge. And the piece that they tried to give us, George, you UGA came back and said we'll be worse off by taking that. They called themselves giving us an equal swap, where there was no such thing. [1:00:53, 1:01:02]: thing. Those parcels cause a greater demand for the city of Stockbridge because most of those parcels are residential. [1:01:03, 1:01:06]: So they're taking a whole lot of commercial. [1:01:06, 1:01:15]: that gives them money with low overhead and what they want to give us was a bunch of residential that demands a lot of delivery of services. [1:01:17, 1:01:27]: Another question is from someone who is asking why and who is behind this proposed city of Eagle Eagles Landing rather and is this a personal vendetta? [1:01:28, 1:01:48]: You know what? I I wasn't I I don't know about the person vendetta, but for those of you who have been here, I I gave you the names on page six. So you probably know a l a whole lot more about those five folks, probably than I do. And I think a lot of you know the history of a lot of these folks. So, you know, I think it kind of speaks for itself. [1:01:48, 1:01:48]: Oh. [1:01:52, 1:01:58]: Okay. The next question is, um, if this goes through, wouldn't property taxes go up for everyone in the county? [1:01:59, 1:02:18]: Well well no. Well I can't say that. I just say that the more they like the property taxes in two areas are gonna go up. The new proposed City of Eagles Landing, because they're gonna have to pay some bills, okay? And the existing stop risk that's left because we're gonna have to pay some bills too. [1:02:20, 1:02:38]: Another citizen saying I've heard a lot in the news lately um about the city of Stockbridge and this new proposed city. Uh they're saying that we have eighty million dollars in surplus and we wouldn't be hurt. Is this true and please explain how this works? No it's not true. Okay, so the [1:02:39, 1:02:53]: Okay, th th this is this is kinda th but you know what's fascinating about this? You have all of these smart people that are trying to create this city and they don't know the difference between assets and what's in the bank. [1:02:53, 1:02:57]: So they looked at the assets of this building. [1:02:57, 1:03:00]: And they looked at all of the city's assets and they say [1:03:01, 1:03:21]: That's money in the bank. Now you and I both know that your house has a value, right? Now is that sitting in the bank? Because you still paying a mortgage, right? Okay, but their deduction was because they took all of our assets, which they equated to being 80 million dollars, they say we got money. [1:03:21, 1:03:41]: money in the bank. Right. Yes. There was something a one-page sheet sheet that was floating around the Capitol last week, I believe it was, that referenced a number of different things with respect to Stockbridge's financial position. Let me say one thing. Stockbridge has a very sound financial position in that our operating [1:03:41, 1:03:48]: budget is about nine and a half million dollars and yet we have fifteen million dollars in the bank and that ratio is excellent. Now the bond issue [1:03:55, 1:04:01]: Of course. And of course our concern here is with the bond issue as uh Camilla uh articulated earlier. [1:04:01, 1:04:21]: This one page sheet did not have any references or sources. Okay? The$80 million referenced, you can look at our comprehensive annual financial report of CAFER in your audit.$80 million is our net position. And again, that's mostly buildings, properties, things that we own. That doesn't impact our day-to-day operations. [1:04:21, 1:04:41]: And so that$80 million really is not a sound figure to use at all. And so that is incorrect. And obviously, if someone is willing to take 50% of your uh commercial tax base away, your revenue away, that'll have a devastating impact then on us. I will also mention again, as referenced earlier, on our website. [1:04:41, 1:04:42]: Right. [1:04:42, 1:04:54]: There's a University of Georgia, a Carl Vincent Institute report, which is extremely detailed. It lays out everything with respect to Stockbridge's financial position and how this will impact us if it is passed. [1:04:56, 1:05:11]: Another question um and concern. First she starts off with a concern I I'm not sure why they want to devise Stockbridge. Uh please answer this. Did the group who's proposing this new city ever come to sit down and express their concerns? [1:05:12, 1:05:32]: I'll let these folks say. No, they have not. They have not um come to us. We actually went to them. I believe Mr. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Ford at the time, now Mayor Ford um had asked that we sit down and they told us that that was not the time. [1:05:32, 1:05:39]: and they never did have another time. Um they've never come to us, they never gave us notice. Um no. [1:05:40, 1:05:43]: Um let me s let me say this though real quick. [1:05:44, 1:06:04]: We individually, some of us did reach out to some of the uh uh legislative uh uh people that was introducing this bill, like Andy Welch, uh Brian Strickland. We reached out to these people that was introducing these bills because if if they wasn't gonna talk to us on the other side, maybe the people, the delegates that was that was introducing these [1:06:04, 1:06:08]: these bills were talked to us and I I can say we was getting nowhere with them also. [1:06:10, 1:06:15]: Let me add to that also. Um I served on the council [1:06:15, 1:06:30]: six five or four years ago, the only time that the Eagles Land and Homeowners Association, which is a a group of all of those neighborhoods in that particular area, that came to this council [1:06:30, 1:06:33]: And ask for anything one time. [1:06:33, 1:06:42]: They came one time and asked this municipality to help them finance the tower. Um, what's the proper name for that? [1:06:42, 1:06:47]: Eagles Landing Eagles Landing Monument Park. Monument Park. [1:06:47, 1:06:58]: They came one time and asked us to assist them in financing that. And we did. And I'm ashamed to say how much we actually provided for that. [1:06:58, 1:07:10]: But that's the only time they came and asked us for anything and we obliged. And that was over a hundred thousand dollars. And I'm just gonna say that. So I'm just saying. [1:07:11, 1:07:14]: It's not like they came and we refused. [1:07:15, 1:07:16]: They came. [1:07:17, 1:07:21]: And we obliged one time only. [1:07:21, 1:07:41]: And let me just add oh I'm sorry. I I would just like to add this. And and I want to add this caveat right now. I I don't know how many of you are out there live in the Eagles Landing area. I do. And let me tell you that everybody that lives in the Eagles Landing area is not the enemy. They're just like me. They're clueless to me. [1:07:41, 1:08:01]: To what has happened, and they're asking the same questions that you are. So I don't want this to divide the city in that you think that the people in the Eagles Landing area, because I talk to them every day, they're not for this, and they're at scratching their head too. So they are not the enemy. Let's stay focused on the five individuals. [1:08:01, 1:08:21]: Individuals who don't live in Stockbridge that are are behind this and a well connected group. This is how politics works sometimes, the dirty side of it. But the people of Eagles Landing are not the enemy. They are your neighbors. I'm one of them. So I'm not for this, and my neighbors are not either. So [1:08:21, 1:08:25]: Please keep that in mind. [1:08:25, 1:08:45]: So we when we went down to the hearing and they asked them why did they want to become a city, they said, Well, we don't have senior centers, uh we don't have parks, every single thing they named was a county service. Until finally one of the reps said so in [1:08:45, 1:09:05]: essence what you're saying is the county who has failed you and not stock bridge. The services that you're m demanding is because the county failed to provide them. So we need for you guys to understand that all of the things that they say they're not getting those are services that are mandated that count [1:09:05, 1:09:13]: Provide, okay? And they're confused. But yet they want to be a city, but they just got a little confusion going on. Okay. [1:09:13, 1:09:33]: One concerned citizen says I've been watching this in the news lately and I've heard certain individuals say, especially one who's proposed this bill, that all you have to do is uh Google City of Stockbridge uh from twenty years ago and you see that there was some disruption. Can you please address this? I'm gonna lead in and let them answer. I [1:09:33, 1:09:53]: I said at the last meeting and the thing that we stood before this General Assembly and said, Whatever issues or Stockbridge was not with this group here. That's correct. And the impression that they gave the General Assembly was that the unhappiness is because of these [1:09:53, 1:10:13]: six and we had to explain to them that if there was disruption, it wasn't because of these six. And so if there was disruption, what we told members of the General Assembly, do not these six deserve an opportunity to make history for themselves? Are they to be condemned? [1:10:13, 1:10:14]: Yeah. [1:10:14, 1:10:25]: A judge by that of their predecessor. So when he makes comments about if you Google Stockbridge for the last 20 years, right. But these guys weren't here twenty years ago. [1:10:27, 1:10:38]: Next question from a concerned citizen. Has the detailed information that I've been reading about and seeing on the news that would negatively impact the city of Stockbridge and its citizens? Is the governor aware of this? [1:10:39, 1:10:59]: Who knows? I'm assuming that he watches television, right? Uh but you know he is the governor. This is a legislative cycle, right? And there are over there's hundreds of bills that are going before him that he needs to sign. So it's up to you to make him aware. So let's just say that he's not aware. Can you make him aware in the next three A's? Okay. [1:10:59, 1:11:19]: So we're gonna make it your business to make him aware in the next three days. One of the things related to that is I think someone had also asked a question about the UGA study and the details of the study had that been provided. That's been provided to the entire Senate, House of Representatives, everyone, the study, everything has been provided to them in detail of how [1:11:19, 1:11:21]: how this would impact the city of Stockbridge. [1:11:22, 1:11:26]: And next question. If uh this proposal does Yeah I'm sorry, sorry. Excuse me one second. [1:11:27, 1:11:35]: Um I I I was up one night um bored and I went all the way back to nineteen thirty nine from the minutes from council meetings. [1:11:36, 1:11:42]: And from nineteen thirty nine up until today, up until a few years ago, nobody was concerned about [1:11:43, 1:11:56]: the growth of Stockbridge because everybody knew everybody and everybody was circulating the same monies and everybody was getting paid. The council meetings back then was probably fifteen, ten, fifteen minutes'cause they knew who was gonna do what and what they was gonna do. [1:11:57, 1:12:17]: When you see the progression of the city of Stockbridge, those game players that was circulating the money was getting pushed out because you, the citizens, was electing people to stand for you and not for special interests. And so when we're we're right now, every council member on this council is representing you as a as the citizens. [1:12:17, 1:12:26]: So the special interest groups are out. So who's gonna get me mad about that? Surely not the citizens. It's the special interest group that can't do it anymore like they used to do it. [1:12:32, 1:12:42]: A concerned citizen has written in saying if this does go through, and I hope it doesn't, but are we taking action to take this to court all the way to the Supreme Court? [1:12:43, 1:13:02]: Uh our attorney's not um here tonight but he would tell me to tell you yes. And they have said we will not hold back. They have gathered the best legal team, I would say in the southeast, to be prepared to defend your right as a resident to keep Stockbridge together. [1:13:07, 1:13:27]: Let me add to this. Let me add to this and I'll tell you that I was gonna I was gonna wait till my comments later, but let me tell you this. About five days ago, uh since we just came up, I signed two contracts. And I I signed them because unfortunately the city manager is limited on what he can sign. So as a mayor, the council voted on this obviously and I signed two contracts [1:13:27, 1:13:38]: So if Governor Deal decides not to veto or not sign it, we're going to go all the way we can because the law firms are already on board. [1:13:45, 1:13:50]: Next question, what is the total bond obligation going forward for the city of Stockbridge? [1:13:52, 1:14:12]: Well right now what we reported is about sixteen million. Okay, that is this building and a public sewer works project. Um all of you guys remember the LCI right? Y'all participated where y'all wanted that amphitheater, you want the cultural center, you wanted all those uh multipurpose center with the gym. [1:14:12, 1:14:16]: and all of that. [1:14:16, 1:14:36]: Several years ago had begun to put those plans on the table. And so what we shared with the General Assembly this time was that this community has been waiting for these projects for a long time and that they wanted to move forward. And typically, what was the first statement I made? The typical way in which most [1:14:36, 1:14:42]: cities fund capital improvement projects is through what? Through bonds. [1:14:43, 1:14:50]: Next question. How did this city come to a fifty percent of stock bridge uh being DNX? Uh was there a math model used? [1:14:51, 1:15:11]: So as I shared with you initially, most cities did this. They looked at areas that were left incorporated. So let me give you an example of one of the bills that's in house. Many of you may not have heard of a community called Greenhaven. Well that is a city that want there's a community that wants to be a city. So they went into into DeCab County. [1:15:11, 1:15:19]: And they said every parcel in the Cab County that's not in a city, we want it. [1:15:19, 1:15:29]: And we want to make that our city. That's typically how it's done. This group said, we're not even going to look at that method. [1:15:29, 1:15:49]: Right to the north, we got a city that is financially sound, commercial hub of Henry County, got a lot of money, and if we take 50% of them, then we could pay our bills. So let's draw our map around that group. Let's draw it [1:15:49, 1:16:09]: Around the commercial properties that's gonna help us survive. Let's draw our boundaries around the residential properties. Because if you look at that map, I mean, it's kind of strange. I mean, when they start going up the West Coast, they forgot all those subdivisions. I guess they weren't good enough, right? So they picked those subdivisions and those commercial [1:16:09, 1:16:29]: Areas that they thought would lead to them being viable. Interesting. Their study is the only study out of the 20 studies that have been done for incorporation that never refers to them by name in their stats. It calls them the traditional city. [1:16:29, 1:16:37]: And then there's a footnote that says this information that determines their feasibility is based on stock bridge. [1:16:38, 1:16:45]: So if you took away the asterisk and you took away Stockbridge, they wouldn't be viable. [1:16:46, 1:16:49]: So that's how they drew their map. [1:16:50, 1:17:10]: A related question to that, real quick, a related question to that that I saw was related to the University of Georgia study which we commissioned, City of Stockbridge Commission, versus the Eagles Landing Research Committee, which had a study done by Georgia State University. University of Georgia um has been recognized um essentially by members of the legislature as being [1:17:10, 1:17:23]: the most um viable institution to provide such studies on incorporations, the ones that have been done in the past. So we commissioned the University of Georgia to do ours and they have done one from Georgia State University. [1:17:25, 1:17:37]: One of our community members um wants some clarity with the petitions. Uh they want to sign petitions but they're saying there's conflicting information from their perspective. If they signed a petition before, can they sign one again? [1:17:37, 1:17:57]: No, we already have those. And so what we're doing, we're compiling those. Someone says, when's the last date to have them? Really this weekend is to cut off because we're trying to have them down. Uh there's only five legislative days left. Um so we're trying to get those ready to go down on Monday, no later than Tuesday. If you sign one, we already have yours. [1:17:57, 1:18:02]: the notebook so you don't need to do another one. But we do need for you to get others. [1:18:04, 1:18:16]: has the clerk has uh provided us with all of the petitions that we've received thus far. You can see we've received numerous petitions and we certainly want to get as many as possible from those who have not signed. [1:18:18, 1:18:25]: We're still counting so as uh we got like five different people inputting daily. We're getting them daily. Mm-hmm. [1:18:28, 1:18:48]: Certainly we've had a lot of overwhelming support from our citizens and those also not within city limits on this concern. Next question, is there a bill that was passed where you couldn't start a new city within three miles of another? Uh yes, the Senate uh leadership did pass what they call uh Senate Bill 453. [1:18:48, 1:18:53]: So and it did cross over, so we'll just have to wait and see what occurs on the outside. [1:18:54, 1:19:14]: We'll begin to wrap up some of our questions now. One of our community members here tonight says, I live in what would be considered the new proposed area uh for the Eagles Landing City, um but I don't want to be a part of it. Um what can I do to ensure that I'm not included in this? Okay, it's a vote. Worst case, I'm gonna give you the worst case scenario. Worst case scenario. [1:19:14, 1:19:22]: This goes past. You know, we put an injunction in and all of the legal things, but at the end of the day they say, you know what, you gotta vote in May. [1:19:23, 1:19:30]: Okay. Let me just share with you. Every other city that incorporated never did so on a primary ballot. [1:19:31, 1:19:51]: They always waited until the general ballot, which was November. You know why? Because they knew that in order for people to make a sound, intelligent vote, that they needed to be educated on the facts. So therefore they gave all of the ten cities six months to get their access. [1:19:51, 1:19:58]: acts together to educate folks on the referendum. But this bill is saying that you don't need to know. [1:19:58, 1:20:18]: Just put it on the May ballot and hopefully you won't know nothing about it and that you won't show up and vote. So worst case scenario, what can you do? To that answer, if this shows up on a May ballot, you need to bring yourself, your aunt, your uncle, your cousins, grandmother, grandpa, niece, nephews, and everybody in your neighborhood. [1:20:18, 1:20:23]: need to show up whenever this shows up on the ballot and make sure that you vote no. [1:20:27, 1:20:36]: We have a comment and we certainly want to honor that. Um someone said, I propose when this nonsense is put to rest, we have a victory party at Merrill Mandor Center. [1:20:41, 1:21:01]: We will uh go on with our last question and then you will hear from your elected officials, which of course is very critical. Um I do want to say if you have questions that are popping up in your head right now or more detail, please reach out to your elected officials. They want to hear from you. Visit our website, call City Hall, our staff members, uh Mr. Randy Knight and City Manager will certainly address your concerns along with [1:21:01, 1:21:10]: Camilla Moore. Last question for tonight. What reason did the sponsors of Senate Bill 263 give for removing homestead exemption language? [1:21:12, 1:21:32]: They said they wanted to be like Stockbridge. And and that's an honor. I would tell you, it's great that someone can go before the General Assembly and say they want to be like Stockbridge. The problem is that Stockbridge is almost 100 years old. And in our bill that created us as a city, we have the power to tax and we have the power to do homestead exemptions. [1:21:32, 1:21:36]: So they want to be like Stockbridge. That was their reason. [1:21:36, 1:21:39]: Let's give a round of applause for your questions and answers tonight. [1:21:43, 1:22:03]: Thank you so much. You can still pass. Yes. One last thing. Someone asked a question about representation at the last meeting. We want you guys to know that they claimed that they wanted representation. This council met with the people down at the state capitol and they actually drew district maps. [1:22:03, 1:22:04]: [4924.7, 4943.6]: for the entire area that included Stockbridge and the proposed City of Eagles Landing, submitted that to the five originators and to this day we have never heard a word from them. They said they wanted representation. This group sent them a proposal and they have totally ignored it. [1:22:25, 1:22:36]: We thank you for your interest. Again, if you have questions and answers tonight, you're welcome to stay behind or call us again and visit the website. Right now you're going to hear from your elected officials. First up, Councilman Elton Alexander. [1:22:37, 1:22:43]: Thank you everyone so much for coming out tonight. I really appreciate it and understand that the um [1:22:44, 1:22:45]: That the what [1:22:46, 1:23:06]: happens within the next few calendar days will leave a legacy or will uh define the city of Stockbridge forever. We must stay engaged every single minute, every single second of the coming days to make sure that we are. Representative Demetrius Douglas was here every [1:23:06, 1:23:26]: Every day. And and it was a question that was said, what do we need to do in order to uh does the governor know? He gave out the governor's phone number and said call, call, call. You know, sometimes you know there may be one person there to answer the phone, but believe me, if she answers a hundred calls that day, she gonna tell the governor. [1:23:26, 1:23:26]: Yeah. [1:23:28, 1:23:46]: I sure you should go tell the governor that day and to be able to do everything. But do everything. Email, petition, all of the above to make sure that we're getting the the message known. If you have time, show up at the Capitol. It's that capital belongs to you. [1:23:46, 1:24:06]: It's the people's house. And if it's the people's house, and you go down there to speak to the representative, they see me, they say city councilman Elton Alexander, they see Mayor Anthony Ford. But when they see you, your words carry more validity and it shows that you care because I'm being paid to go down there. You're not. So [1:24:06, 1:24:12]: So you can go to the governor, you can go to the sele legislature to make sure that things are taken care of. [1:24:13, 1:24:33]: I wrote down a couple of points uh that I wanted to go over as as we move through. Uh in layman's terms, many of you s heard that well, we don't have a tax. Well yeah, we have a county tax and that is you pay it. It's very high right now. The other line is blank. It says municipal or city. [1:24:33, 1:24:53]: Blank. You have to just imagine what would be left behind now. Instead of just having that one line which is extremely high already, you'd have two taxation lines, one for the county tax and one for a new tax that you may be paying perpetuity. So you need to make sure you understand the labor. [1:24:53, 1:25:13]: terms is that another tax will be added to what's already existing and they are uh very high because I get my bill too and know that that is what the situation is. I live in the Eagles Landing area as I said earlier. I'm doing this for you. I am [1:25:13, 1:25:33]: I want to make sure that I do this for you. You know, and if if I was able to steal fifty percent or this group is able to steal fifty percent of what is uh now Stockbridge which is Bible, they probably would be better off. But what guess what? Righteousness they are wrong. There are wrongs. There are rights [1:25:32, 1:25:46]: And they are wrong. I'm with this battle because what they're doing is absolutely wrong and we don't want to start today cheating and stealing is not the way to build a new city. That's not the way you start this process. [1:25:51, 1:26:07]: The one thing that Commissioner Bruce Holmes said, and I'm gonna go off the script a little bit right now, and I told him that I was gonna do this'cause he asked me. He said, You know what? The Henry County Commissioners, in his opinion, Commissioner Bruce Holmes, could stop this. [1:26:07, 1:26:27]: He said that there was no point in that this commission could be neutral and that from the county chair on down, those individuals, if they were to take a vote, could stop this. He said to me that uh w before the governor signs this bill, he's gonna call the commissioners in the area that live in the area. [1:26:27, 1:26:47]: according to him. And he asked me to tell you and to relay to you that we need to increase the pressure on those individuals because they represent you too. You voted for them as well. And right now there's no time to be having my hands behind tied behind my back or to say it, oh, it doesn't affect me. [1:26:47, 1:27:02]: It does affect me and we need to make sure that we understand that everybody is rowing in the same direction and this historic city is at stake. We need everybody in the same direction. So I appreciate it and thank you so much. [1:27:08, 1:27:18]: Thank you everybody for holding on and waiting on us tonight and uh being here still because uh this information is really good information. But I wanna say to you all that [1:27:18, 1:27:34]: And this line has been drawn, it would take me also away from being your elected official because I live in Eagles Landing area also. So I wanna say that this it angers me because even when we win the battle, which I believe we're gonna win, I pray till God is able to do anything. [1:27:35, 1:27:42]: Even when we win this battle, it saddens me that in two thousand eighteen we're having this type of fight. [1:27:43, 1:27:45]: That we see in s a city being divided. [1:27:46, 1:27:48]: That we're promoting division. [1:27:48, 1:27:55]: I would like for those that are trying to create that city to come in here right now and see that this fight doesn't have a color on it. [1:27:56, 1:28:01]: But this fight is a unified city that's saying no because right is right and wrong is wrong. [1:28:04, 1:28:10]: I won't be before you long, but I wanna say this to you because I told a friend of mine, a new friend of mine, that I would. [1:28:11, 1:28:16]: Is that if this bill shifts any kind of way other than what we want it to shift to? [1:28:17, 1:28:19]: We're gonna go at this one hundred percent. [1:28:19, 1:28:25]: even more powerful than this state had ever seen. So anybody that's gonna stand with Stockbridge. [1:28:26, 1:28:34]: And let your voices be seen and let your faces be let your faces be seen, your voices be heard. Just let me see your hands, because if it goes any other way. [1:28:34, 1:28:36]: Either way we wanted to go. [1:28:37, 1:28:53]: then it's a fight on this uh on their hands. We won't even need a news media because we'll march around the state capitol seven times and on that seven times we're gonna give a yell that's gonna call across the state say you're not gonna come in here and cheat us any kind of way. We got a voice. Thank you for coming. [1:28:55, 1:28:57]: [5340.1, 5355.5]: Good evening everyone. Thank you so much for coming out. I'm Councilwoman Neat Robinson. This has been a trying time for our city, but it's your time now to be able to stand up and do and assist us so that way we can keep our city together. [1:29:15, 1:29:28]: We have a lot of Georgia cities that are opposing this bill and they still are not adhering to their voice. So it's gonna take us always say f faith without works, guess what? [1:29:30, 1:29:35]: So we've got to put in the work. So we serve you. [1:29:35, 1:29:55]: So if you tell us that you want us to get buses to take you to the Capitol, that's what we will do. Please don't sit down on this. Don't allow us to make the decisions for you. You've already come, you've got the information. Now it's time for you to tell us what you need for us to do for you. We're here to serve and whatever it takes tonight. [1:29:55, 1:30:00]: We need your voices. Okay? We really do. I mean we can talk all day. [1:30:00, 1:30:20]: But if you're not telling us or assisting us on what you need for us to do, please do not leave this building tonight without assisting or telling us, insisting on us on what you want us to do before you leave this building tonight. Again, there's a lot of um on the page, I forgot the page number there but there [1:30:20, 1:30:27]: There's some representatives that put this bill out there. Hey six. Hey, they're gonna be running. [1:30:27, 1:30:47]: I need you to pay attention because these are the people that are making the decisions for us. To me, I guess they were talking and it sounded like, okay, you know how when you you know in our own personal life your family may think you have money. We're in this big old building, so they just think, oh, they got money, and it was just broken down to say, no. [1:30:47, 1:30:49]: We're gonna lose half. [1:30:50, 1:30:59]: We keep our city looking good. We try our best. That's what this council does. We try our best to keep it up. We try our best to provide the services for our citizens. [1:31:00, 1:31:12]: But guess what? You just can't come and take from us. And we're not gonna stand for it. So we need you all to stand with us so that way we can move forward. Thank you so much and God bless each and every one of you. [1:31:16, 1:31:30]: Good evening, Stockbridge. I made some notes here because I want to make sure I say a few things because I want you to understand. First, let me concur with Councilman Alexander when he made the statement that [1:31:31, 1:31:37]: This is not a fight against many of the residents that live in Eagles Landing. [1:31:37, 1:31:42]: I have a business card in my pocket right now. I met a gentleman today. [1:31:44, 1:31:45]: That told me that [1:31:46, 1:31:48]: No one came to him. [1:31:48, 1:31:50]: about the proposed city. [1:31:51, 1:31:53]: And that he was totally against that. [1:31:54, 1:31:59]: I would imagine that many of you that live in Eagles Landed and probably feel the very same way. [1:32:00, 1:32:02]: But first let me just thank all of you for [1:32:03, 1:32:04]: For your support. [1:32:05, 1:32:07]: For your dedication. [1:32:08, 1:32:09]: For your passion. [1:32:10, 1:32:11]: And your belief. [1:32:11, 1:32:12]: in this municipality. [1:32:16, 1:32:19]: This council and this staff [1:32:21, 1:32:23]: Have spoken the truth. [1:32:24, 1:32:25]: And have laid out [1:32:26, 1:32:28]: All of the facts. [1:32:28, 1:32:32]: Last Thursday, well even before last Thursday. [1:32:32, 1:32:34]: We laid out the facts. [1:32:35, 1:32:38]: Tonight we laid out the facts. [1:32:38, 1:32:39]: That's what we do. [1:32:41, 1:32:42]: We have spoken the truth. [1:32:43, 1:32:45]: And we have laid out the facts. [1:32:46, 1:32:50]: Now I cannot say that for the folks that are trying to create a new city. [1:32:52, 1:32:55]: We have prayed, we came together and we prayed. [1:32:55, 1:32:57]: I believe in prayer. [1:32:58, 1:33:00]: I believe God answers prayer. [1:33:02, 1:33:03]: I believe [1:33:04, 1:33:06]: That when it's all said and done [1:33:07, 1:33:12]: That the city of Stockbridge will still be whole. I truly believe that. [1:33:14, 1:33:19]: I want to speak to a couple of the issues that folks have called me and raised. [1:33:20, 1:33:21]: About [1:33:21, 1:33:25]: No representation from this municipality. [1:33:25, 1:33:32]: And I made a note here, and as I stated earlier, I was first elected to this council back in 2012. [1:33:33, 1:33:37]: And I I was I grew up here in the city of Stockbridge. This is my home. [1:33:38, 1:33:41]: I'm familiar with every [1:33:41, 1:33:50]: elected official in this municipality going back into the 70s. Know them personally, they knew me personally. [1:33:51, 1:33:53]: Many of them are deceased right now. [1:33:54, 1:33:57]: But the question of no representation [1:33:59, 1:34:00]: Four [1:34:01, 1:34:04]: of the last six mirrors. [1:34:04, 1:34:07]: Duly elected to this municipality. [1:34:08, 1:34:11]: lived in this target area. [1:34:12, 1:34:13]: Four of the six [1:34:17, 1:34:19]: Five council members. [1:34:22, 1:34:29]: that lives in that particular area for the last twelve years have been a part of this municipality. [1:34:30, 1:34:35]: So that is not true about no representation at this particular council. [1:34:36, 1:34:39]: The last two mayors before Mayor Ford [1:34:41, 1:34:42]: Brought no issues. [1:34:43, 1:34:45]: From that community. [1:34:46, 1:34:54]: No issues. So I just want to dismiss and disprove the notion of no representation at this municipality. [1:34:58, 1:35:00]: Mrs. Moore mentioned [1:35:00, 1:35:02]: A comprehensive [1:35:02, 1:35:03]: Plan. [1:35:04, 1:35:08]: that this council was prepared to go forward. [1:35:09, 1:35:15]: Now, this whole issue of Eagles Landing, it's been in the work for a long time. [1:35:16, 1:35:18]: And I'm telling you for what I know. [1:35:18, 1:35:21]: Now we just heard about it in twenty seventeen. [1:35:22, 1:35:25]: But this plan has been in the work for a while. [1:35:26, 1:35:28]: But this is a reason. [1:35:29, 1:35:31]: That this council [1:35:32, 1:35:35]: was elected back in November twenty seventeen. [1:35:36, 1:35:38]: It's not by circumstance. [1:35:40, 1:35:41]: It's by fate. [1:35:42, 1:35:43]: When you look [1:35:44, 1:35:46]: And these elected officials [1:35:46, 1:35:54]: When you look at this staff, Mrs. Moore just got here recently, our city managers just got here recently. [1:35:55, 1:35:56]: It was by faith. [1:35:56, 1:36:02]: And I can tell you and I can look in your faces that when they presented these facts [1:36:05, 1:36:11]: You said, wow, they are very knowledgeable, very experienced. It's a reason why. [1:36:11, 1:36:19]: that God brought them here to this municipality at this time because he knew [1:36:20, 1:36:21]: That we was gonna be in a fight. [1:36:22, 1:36:25]: And I believe that we are going to win this fight. [1:36:32, 1:36:45]: This council have been working on quality of life issues and I'm just going to mention just a couple of things just to give you an idea of what we have been trying to do for you. [1:36:46, 1:36:47]: The citizens [1:36:47, 1:36:48]: [5810.1, 5812.5]: When you talk about quality of life, [1:36:53, 1:36:56]: We understand that and this is what we've been trying to do. [1:36:57, 1:37:00]: We've been trying to div redevelop. [1:37:02, 1:37:03]: Out downtown. [1:37:04, 1:37:05]: Restaurants. [1:37:06, 1:37:07]: Shopping. [1:37:08, 1:37:09]: Entertainment. [1:37:09, 1:37:11]: Cultural arts. [1:37:11, 1:37:12]: Amphitheater. [1:37:13, 1:37:19]: Splash pads for the kids. You name it. All of this is on the drawing board that we have talked about. [1:37:20, 1:37:34]: Public safety. A lot of folks are saying, well, what is the city of Stockbridge going to do about public safety? We believe that it is our responsibility to make sure that you as a citizen, where you live, you are safe. [1:37:35, 1:37:47]: We understand that and we're going to work on that. If you're a business owner, we want to make sure that when you're in your business, that you're safe in your business. When you close up at night, you're safe. [1:37:57, 1:37:59]: quality education for all of our children. [1:38:00, 1:38:06]: We know that we have some issues with our s with some school systems here. We understand that. [1:38:07, 1:38:11]: But we have decided to work with the Henry County Board of Education. [1:38:12, 1:38:18]: And I see Dr. Finn over there, I know she's smiling, because this is one of her things about educating our kids. [1:38:19, 1:38:28]: We're going to get in the trenches with those board members and we're going to make sure that all of our children get a quality education here in the city of Stockbridge and in Henry County. [1:38:30, 1:38:44]: And I could go on and on, got a list here, but I'm gonna cut it short because you all may have some other questions and I'm going to let uh our city manager and our Mrs. Moore uh maybe respond to a couple of things. But the point I wanna make to you citizens. [1:38:46, 1:38:48]: We are in tune. [1:38:49, 1:38:51]: to the needs of this city. [1:38:51, 1:38:54]: And to the best of our ability, Mrs. Howard. [1:38:56, 1:38:57]: We're gonna make it happen. [1:38:58, 1:38:59]: Just give us the opportunity. [1:39:00, 1:39:02]: We're gonna make it happen. [1:39:03, 1:39:08]: It's hard for us to stay focused on those things when we're in a fight for our lives. [1:39:08, 1:39:13]: So once this is clear and I do believe that we will stay whole after this. [1:39:14, 1:39:25]: We're gonna look to you to come and voice your opinion about what we need here in this city. How do we go about making sure that some of these things that I just mentioned? [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: We need your input. [1:39:29, 1:39:38]: We're not going to do it without you having a voice. You elected us to represent you and to be your voice when you can't come here. [1:39:38, 1:39:44]: But we need you to come just like you're coming now. So here I'm looking in the eyes of a lot of folks in this room. [1:39:45, 1:39:47]: And believe me. [1:39:47, 1:39:51]: I'm reading your eyes. I'm feeling that heartbeat. [1:39:52, 1:39:53]: And we understand. [1:39:53, 1:39:55]: What we have to do. [1:39:55, 1:39:59]: My good friend Adam back there. We understand what we got to do. Thank you. [1:40:01, 1:40:02]: Good evening. [1:40:04, 1:40:20]: Thank you all for coming tonight. I am Lakeisha Gamp, Mayor Pro Tem of the City of Stockbridge. I want to say that um I would first would like to thank our staff who have done a phenomenal job tonight and have continued to work hard for the citizens here. [1:40:21, 1:40:23]: We stand unified, ladies and gentlemen. [1:40:24, 1:40:32]: The city of Stockbridge City Council stays unified and we will fight and continue to fight for you and for what is right. [1:40:33, 1:40:45]: and to the General Assembly wherever you are, whether you represent a small town, whether repres whether you represent an a city of our size, or someone as large as of Atlanta as Atlanta. [1:40:46, 1:40:51]: Whether you represent us in the state, whether you repres represent us in the country. [1:40:51, 1:41:04]: It is time to do what's right, not what's time to do for the Republicans, not what it's time to do for the Democrats, no not what it's time to do for blacks or whites. It's time to do what's right. [1:41:11, 1:41:31]: And we need to stick together. Taking 50% of our tax revenues, it is not right. Leaving us with the debt of what we have done for your side of the city, our side of the city is not right. And it's not done by the citizens that live over in Eagles Landing, the 9,000 that are [1:41:31, 1:41:51]: Over there, it this has been done, this effort has been done by a select few. And to include the names of the names on that list, include Senator Rick Jeffries, who's now running for lieutenant governor, and Senator Brian Strickland, who is currently the senator. But to sit here and say [1:41:51, 1:42:02]: That three cities out of four cities have signed resolutions. A hundred and three or more, a hundred plus have signed resolutions stating that they are against. [1:42:02, 1:42:22]: A new city such as this being formed by de-annexation is unbelievable that this thing has gotten this far. So we need to write our governor and say, veto the first bill, and by no means let Eagles Landon come to uh come together unless they come together in a [1:42:22, 1:42:34]: an unincorporated area. And you need to take that out to the community 10 and 20 at a time. Respond back to the emails. Ignore the shade. [1:42:34, 1:42:45]: of the false information and the smoke screens about how dysfunctional our city is when we have had to lay the foundation to get it where we are right now. [1:42:46, 1:43:06]: Because that's what we're having to do. I came here and there was a budget on an Excel spreadsheet. Unacceptable in twenty fourteen. And now we have the best financial, we're in the best financial shape, and we also have plans to build that art center, and we have plans to build that amphitheater, and we have plans for [1:43:06, 1:43:21]: for our community and we've given back and we continue to develop but we had to lay a foundation ladies and gentlemen and it's not an easy road and that foundation we had to lay is because we had to rebuild what was destroyed over twenty years ago. [1:43:23, 1:43:28]: So I say to you, thank you for your continued support. [1:43:29, 1:43:44]: And ignore those naysayers and fight for our city and do what's right, not because you're Republican, not because you're a Democrat, not because you're black or white or Asian or blue, green, purple, or from Mars. [1:43:44, 1:43:46]: It is time. [1:43:47, 1:43:48]: To do. [1:43:48, 1:43:49]: The right thing. [1:43:56, 1:44:16]: I tell you what, uh it's just great that uh you all are out here tonight. It really is. And uh I mentioned this before last Thursday that um we're here at least two ice a month. So we like to see the chambers feel like this twice a month when we're when we're doing the business for you all. Uh I I mentioned also earlier in in my comments uh that um uh I [1:44:16, 1:44:24]: I signed uh two different contracts involving uh some legal teams. Uh so don't fear. [1:44:24, 1:44:42]: Because if the governor, I'll say again, decides not to veto or not sign and after 40 days becomes law, we will initiate a strategic counter-attack, as I mentioned last week. I've I've resigned the contracts. Those law firms are sitting in the wings ready for us to say, go. [1:44:42, 1:44:45]: Okay? And we'll tie it up. [1:44:45, 1:45:05]: And the thing about it is is the governor himself on his way out for so he's got his legacy to worry about and one of the candidates when wants to become um governor, lieutenant colonel uh Lieutenant Governor Cato, if we end up going this way, he'll have to answer this in his campaign because it will get national attention. And we and and since we are very sovereign, yeah. [1:45:05, 1:45:06]: Go ahead. [1:45:09, 1:45:29]: We are a very sovereign city, so we have the funding. So and I don't think you would mind the spending the funding to uh to advocate the the the pushback or the de-annexation of our city. The funding is there. So and that is and and that's a key point because uh they didn't realize the funding is there. Why would you want to take our primary [1:45:29, 1:45:49]: economic corridor and rip us off or steal. That's I consider stealing in a sense. And it's a small group a small group of people. I mean it's not all these everybody lives in Eagles Land area. It's a small group of people who are kind of pushing this ordeal. We are very financially stable in this aspect of it all. So if you if you go to unincorporated [1:45:49, 1:46:04]: county area like everybody else, well those folks will tell you, no, I don't want to do this because everybody pays the county tax on a corporate county area here here in here in the county that you would look at, you don't have an economic corridor like you have at Eagles Land Parkway and Hudson Bridge all the way flipping road. You don't have that. [1:46:04, 1:46:05]: So [1:46:05, 1:46:18]: But we're gonna win this it's a war. We're gonna win this war. And once upon that victory, since it was a suggestion made, I'll have to ask the council'cause I at America do anything with the council to prove it, right? Maybe we'll have a big party in moral matters, right? Right? [1:46:19, 1:46:27]: And I'll tell you something else, since we become 100 years old in 2020, guarantee we're gonna have an off-the-chain party in 2020 as well. Okay? [1:46:30, 1:46:50]: On on that note, as we get prepared for our centennial, okay, what we want to do is continue to work and strategically build up our downtown so we can have an amphitheater so we can set up to have concerts and have a great time to celebrate the city's 100 years, right? Splash pad for our kids. So when we have the concert in the summer or movies and movies on the screen. [1:46:50, 1:47:10]: we'll have them in this area. We will build this this downtown area and we also will continue to work with the contractors and build Jodeco South, Atlanta South. It's going to happen, folks. If you look at the map, where are the maps? You look at the maps, we've annexed that, the 160 of those acres, that mixed use development, Jodeco Road and Highway 75, it was annexed into the city of Stompbridge. [1:47:10, 1:47:14]: in December of 2016. [1:47:14, 1:47:34]: I'll tell you what, I put you look at it. It's all on the on the on camera. I put the motion in in action. Alexander seconded that. We approved it unanimously. And it's done. They want commercial high-end stores. Guess what? We already have it. We just got to work the plan. The plan's there. You want legal representation? Well, someone's already, I think, come on, I already mentioned it. [1:47:34, 1:47:44]: We we say okay fine. We developed something for them, send it to all the five representatives, say, here you go. Here's a district plan. So everybody can have some legal representation. [1:47:45, 1:47:54]: Okay? No response. But I'll tell you what the key to that would be as well. Because even if we do that, guess what? You all would have to approve it. [1:47:54, 1:48:14]: We just can't arbitrarily just do that and say here we're gonna do this. You all will have to approve that. We would have to go to re do a referendum. Am I correct on this? Okay. Okay, we have to do a referendum and you would have to approve that. So otherwise that still comes back to you, the citizens. Because in all actuality, we work for you. We can't make major decisions without getting your approval. [1:48:14, 1:48:24]: letting you know what we're doing and how we're doing it. So the constant interaction we need with you is is what something that has to happen and something that we need to do on a continual basis. [1:48:24, 1:48:27]: Okay, in that aspect. But once we get over this hump. [1:48:27, 1:48:37]: You will see that and it's been mentioned several times already by the rest of the council that there will be there are things already in the budget, in the plan to build up the downtown area and Joe to go south. All right? [1:48:38, 1:48:58]: And the intent is to make Stockbridge a greater city than what it is now. And uh to I'm gonna do this as well, add this in there. Once this is over with, we're looking to increase our size. Because we got to fill up those holes, those islands. We need to fill them up. And if we go to districts, if we ever go to districts, and you all prove that. [1:48:58, 1:49:05]: But we have to fill the holes, which means we we're going to get larger. Which means folks will c can have local representation provided you'll prove that. [1:49:06, 1:49:11]: and um we'll continue to do great things. Have the faith, keep the faith. [1:49:12, 1:49:13]: Help us out. It's your city. [1:49:14, 1:49:15]: Our city. [1:49:16, 1:49:18]: Okay? God bless y'all. Thank you for being out here tonight. [1:49:24, 1:49:44]: Thank you all very much again for coming. We appreciate all your participation and as elected officials and as as county or city appointed uh staff. This is why we do what we do is to serve you. I want to remind you to go out to the tables outside about uh canvassing information and petitions, check our [1:49:44, 1:49:45]: City website. [1:49:45, 1:49:57]: for information and if anybody has any questions, myself and Ms. Moore will be here afterwards. Please come up and ask us questions if you have any additional questions. Thank you very much. Drive safely this evening. God bless. [1:50:27, 1:50:27]: Oh.