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    --- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-10-14 source: 2024-10-14_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:36, 0:00:48]: What it amounts to is that uh we have several proclamations that I need to read and issue out this evening. Uh Council Thomas, if you want to join me, come on down please if you'd like. Okay. Yeah, we're we're we're live. [0:00:48, 0:00:49]: So I'm gonna start with uh [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: own um [0:00:52, 0:00:56]: Fire pr fire prevention month, right? Own Chief Wells. Well, come on up, sir. [0:00:59, 0:01:02]: We're gonna come come on this let's see, come on this side. [0:01:06, 0:01:08]: How are you doing, sir? Oh great. All right, good. Thank you. [0:01:08, 0:01:12]: So City of Procla, City Stockbridge Pro Recognition of Fire Prevention Month. [0:01:13, 0:01:22]: Whereas October is fire prevention month, whereas the goal of the fire prevention month is to raise fire safety awareness and help protect families, excuse me, homes and families. [0:01:22, 0:01:27]: Whereas in nineteen twenty two the National Fire Protection Association NFPA [0:01:27, 0:01:34]: Named the second week of October Fire Prevention Week in commemoration of the Great Chicago Fire in eighteen seventy one. [0:01:34, 0:01:45]: Today we celebrate the Fire Prevention Week and month by spreading fire safety awareness and educating families, students, and communities across the United States with the help from our partners and local fire departments. [0:01:46, 0:02:06]: Whereas a first alert is the most trusted brand of fire safety and is dedicated to protecting lives moments and encourages you to gather your family to discuss fire safety awareness. Whereas installing reliable protection and being proactive and important, it is important to help keep your loved ones safe from the fire or carbon. [0:02:06, 0:02:07]: [128.0, 148.0]: Almost three out of every five home fire deaths result from fires with no smoke alarms or no working smoke alarms. Carbon monoxide is the number one cause of accidental poisoning in the United States. Unattended cooking is the number one cause of home fires, and the fire department responds to a fire every 23 seconds in America. [0:02:28, 0:02:40]: Therefore I am Anthony S. For by virtual authority vests in me as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of Stockbridge City Council members, Elton Alexander, Yelanda, Barber, Cowberry, Lakeisha Gantt, and Afonso Thomas, we hereby proclaim the week of October. [0:02:41, 0:02:41]: Um [0:02:42, 0:02:44]: The month actually been the month of October, Fire Prevention Month. [0:02:45, 0:02:51]: in Stockbridge, Georgia, and with the support of educational efforts to spread awareness about s smoke alarms and fire safety. [0:02:51, 0:03:02]: A witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in Great Seal City Stockbridge, Georgia, the fourteenth day of October year of our Lord, two thousand twenty four, and signed a proclamation along with our clerk for Nessa Holiday. [0:03:02, 0:03:14]: And I want to issue this to our our fire marshal for the city of Stockbridge. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Well, you want any words first before you always get a chance to speak if you like? [0:03:14, 0:03:34]: Well, I just wanna say that the proclamation speaks speaks for itself. And I wanna uh thank the city of Stockbridge for bringing me on to be able to service our business and our community to make sure that we have a safe environment. I guess to know I I get a chance firsthand to learn all about business owners and people. So I just wanna say thank you to the [0:03:34, 0:03:45]: the city for giving me this opportunity. I appreciate you guys. I'm accepting on this on behalf of all of public safety throughout Henry County. [0:03:47, 0:04:07]: I wanna take this opportunity to also just say that Chief Wells and I again will be partnering um in the next few weeks to give out smoke detectors. I think it's very important that we have our homes and our property safe. I know during Thanksgiving and Christmas, we do a lot of cooking. [0:04:07, 0:04:27]: So we just wanna make sure that all households are safe and properly, properly monitored. So sometimes, you know, we leave things on the stove and we forget and those kind of things. So I just wanna thank the chief for every year he partnered with me and I partnered with him. [0:04:27, 0:04:47]: To make sure that we reach out to all families and make sure that their homes are somewhat protected or at least having that alert in your homes when things sort of get out of whack. So I just want to thank the chief again for that. And I appreciate you, Kevin. So just listen out, we will uh shortly [0:04:47, 0:04:49]: [289.5, 293.9]: time and a location. So as long as they last [0:04:54, 0:05:04]: Feel free to come out and get one if you're not if your home is not equipped at this point in time. Thank you. [0:05:15, 0:05:17]: Yeah, thank you. Thank you. [0:05:20, 0:05:22]: Okay, I'll I'll take it now. [0:05:28, 0:05:38]: This actually proclamation is in recognition of National Hispanic Heritage Month. And uh Angie, you and your family can come forward if you want to bring anybody else with you. [0:05:44, 0:05:47]: We might have to shift over. Yeah, well. Oh, you need the mic though. Yeah, we got the mic right here. [0:05:54, 0:06:07]: Okay. Everybody come on up. We'll gather up, right? Okay. You might have to double up, triple up, spread out. Some on the other side of the some on this side as well? On the other side of the rail. [0:06:09, 0:06:29]: All right. Okay. All right. So let's tell you what, let me zoom right in. Okay. National Hispanic Heritage Month, whereas each year Americans observe National Hispanic Heritage Month annually from September fifteenth to October fifteenth by celebrating the contributions and influence of Hispanic Americans to the history, culture, and [0:06:28, 0:06:36]: Achievements in the United States of America. Citizens whose ancestors came from Spain, Mexico, Caribbean, Central, and South America. [0:06:36, 0:06:48]: Whereas the observation of started in nineteen sixty eight as a Hispanic Heritage Week under President Lyndon Johnson and was uh expanded by President Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty eight. [0:06:48, 0:06:52]: to cover a thirty day period starting in September fifteenth and ending october fifteenth. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: And it's enacted into law. [0:06:55, 0:06:58]: on sa august seventeenth, nineteen eighty eight, as a approved. [0:06:58, 0:07:01]: And on approval to public law one hundred dash four two. [0:07:02, 0:07:19]: Whereas the day in September fifteenth, significant because of the anniversary of independence of Latin American countries, Costa Rica Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua, in addition to Mexico and Chile, celebrate their independence days on September sixteenth and September eighteenth, respectively. [0:07:19, 0:07:21]: Also Columbus Day is day law. [0:07:21, 0:07:41]: Dalla De La Rosa, I believe that's pronounced it right. Okay. Yeah, but that's right. Okay. Which is October 12th, falls within a third-day period. And whereas this year's theme, everything is possible, everything is possible for Latinos, great economic growth, innovation, competitiveness, stronger and middle class, and a set of values centered on family, hard work, opposition. Optimism. [0:07:41, 0:08:01]: Excuse me. And whereas the city of Stockbridge continues to support the Hispanic and Latin community and encourages everyone to celebrate the Hispanic and Latin culture in and around the Stockbridge community and surrounding area. Now, therefore, Anthony Sforber, Virtual Authority of SMD, is the mayor of the City of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander. [0:08:01, 0:08:21]: Anonymous, Barber Cowberry, Lakesa Gantt, Afonso Thomas do hereby proclaim September 15th, October 15th as Hispanic Heritage Month, Great City of Stockbridge. And witness thereof, I have here on new set my hand in Great Seal, City Stockbridge, Georgia. This is the ninth day of September, year of our Lord, 2024, and I signed it along with our prayer for Nessa Hall. [0:08:21, 0:08:26]: holiday but we know this is October 14th, but congratulations. [0:08:27, 0:08:38]: Yeah. First of all, I wanna thank God because everything without him, nothing none of this would've been possible. Second, that community that gave me [0:08:38, 0:08:49]: the entire support since I opened for days one. And to my family, my daughter, my mom, my aunt, my friends, my workers, I'm very tired. Thank you so much. [0:08:50, 0:08:54]: All right. [0:08:55, 0:09:00]: Come on down. Come on down. [0:09:00, 0:09:00]: Oh. [0:09:03, 0:09:13]: Come on, someone someone come on come on the sweet five when you sit in the back. So the people come up. All right. All right. [0:09:14, 0:09:15]: Yeah, you want to come up. [0:09:15, 0:09:21]: There you go. You good? I don't want blocking with this. [0:09:27, 0:09:29]: Awesome. One more. [0:09:33, 0:09:34]: Mm-hmm. [0:09:37, 0:09:40]: I think it's a [0:09:41, 0:09:50]: Are they here to receive another one? Why do you expect it? Well I'm gonna have to deal with I'm gonna wait till the end for this because there are pretty more folks with the other. Okay, thank you. [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: Ms. Totter? [0:10:06, 0:10:07]: Come on up, please. [0:10:08, 0:10:28]: This next proclamation, ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Tucker is here from the Haven House, but it's this is with domestic violence. So if anybody else is is uh wants to join us for reference to domestic violence, please do so. This is a proclamation and uh how you doing by the way? Good, how are you? Oh, just fine. Domestic Violence Awareness Month, whereas domestic [0:10:28, 0:10:48]: Violence is a pattern of abusive behaviors characterized by one partner's need to control the other by using a range of tactics that can include physical, sexual, emotional, economic, psychological, and/or technological actions, threats of actions, or patterns of coercive behavior. Whereas domestic violence often starts early and [0:10:48, 0:11:04]: one's lifetime with almost three-quarters of female victims of intimate partner violence reporting they were the first victimized before age 25 and more than one in four uh vis one in four first victimized before the age of 18. [0:11:05, 0:11:25]: Whereas domestic violence must be understood as more than an individual behavior, as it's rooted in social values that place importance on the people having power over others and allows violence against women, other groups to occur at a minimal as well as or no accountability. Whereas this year's theme of domestic violence awareness month is heal, hold. [0:11:24, 0:11:42]: and center as we recognize and embrace the diverse ways that survivors and communities heal from violence and oppression. And center those most marginalized in their other efforts to end domestic violence. Now therefore I Anthony Sfor by Verse Authority Vestan Me is Mary City, Star Pridge, Georgia. [0:11:43, 0:11:53]: On behalf of city council members, Elton Alexander, Lana, Barber Cowberry, Nakisha Gannon, Afonso Thomas to hear prime proclaim the month of October as domestic violence awareness month. [0:11:53, 0:11:57]: on Thursday, October 17th, 2024, is Purple Thursday. [0:11:57, 0:12:03]: And now showing day of action to raise awareness of wearing purple and showing commitment to ending domestic violence. [0:12:03, 0:12:12]: A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of city Stockbridge, Georgia, on the fourteenth day of October year of our Lord, two thousand twenty four, and I signed a proclamation along with a clear finesse hall. [0:12:15, 0:12:19]: [739.7, 750.0]: I just wanna accept this on behalf of all survivors and victims and thank the city of Stockbridge. Thank y'all so much for this. No problem, no problem. You were here, did you have any comments or you just you at all? [0:12:30, 0:12:33]: Ah thanks she said it off. Okay, fantastic. Thank you. Come on down we'll take a [0:12:34, 0:12:36]: What was it? [0:12:36, 0:12:51]: Uh there is oh there is two. There is two. Guess what? There you have it. I'm sorry. [0:13:00, 0:13:01]: Oh. [0:13:07, 0:13:12]: Thank you so far. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:13:26, 0:13:28]: The next proclamation World Mental Health Day. [0:13:29, 0:13:34]: And I don't know if there's anybody here to receive this. If not, I'll continue to read it. Okay. [0:13:34, 0:13:52]: So, whereas World Health Organization recognized World Mental Health Day, October tenth of every year, this day provides an opportunity for all stakeholders working on mental health issues to talk about their work and what more needs to be done to make mental health care a reality for people worldwide. [0:13:53, 0:14:13]: Where a safe, healthy working environment can act as a protective factor for mental health, unhealthy conditions, including stigma, discrimination, exposure to risks like harassment and other poor working conditions, can pose significant risks affecting mental health, overall quality of life, and consequently participation or productivity at work. [0:14:13, 0:14:18]: Whereas it is essential for government's employees, employers, the organizations which represent workers and employees. [0:14:18, 0:14:24]: and other stakeholders r responsible for workers' health and safety to work together to improve mental health at work. [0:14:24, 0:14:29]: Whereas World Mental Health Day is a chance to talk about mental health in general. [0:14:30, 0:14:38]: how we need to look after it and how important it is to talk about things and to get help if you are someone who know is struggling. [0:14:38, 0:14:43]: Stigma and discrimination continue to be a barrier to social inclusion and access to the right care. [0:14:43, 0:15:03]: But we all play our part in increasing awareness about such preventive mental health interventions work. Now therefore I Anthony S. Ford by virtual authority investor in me as a mayor, C of Stockbridge, Georgia. Now on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander Yulana, Barber John Blount, Lakisha Gantt, and Follow Thomas do hereby proclaim October tenth, twenty twenty-four. [0:15:03, 0:15:23]: As World Mental Health Day in the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and we encourage everyone to show your support in making mental health a priority in our community, wear your green ribbon in support. In witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the Great Seal City of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 14th day of October, year of our Lord, 2024, and I signed a proclamation on loan. [0:15:23, 0:15:31]: I'll clarify now. So how are they? Okay, I'm sorry, she's back. [0:15:31, 0:15:40]: Okay, fine. Oh no, fine. Would you read comments you you want to return anything? [0:15:41, 0:15:56]: Good evening. As a member of the stepping up committee here in Henry County, I received this award, knowing that we're working toward making sure everyone has an opportunity for a healthy life, mental health, spiritual health, and a wholesome life. Thank you. [0:15:56, 0:16:04]: Okay. [0:16:05, 0:16:05]: [972.2, 974.1]: Thank you. All right. [0:16:15, 0:16:18]: Okay, absolutely appreciate it. Thank you very much. All right. [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Okay, miss something. [0:16:25, 0:16:26]: In this one though. Mm-hmm. [0:16:27, 0:16:28]: Well yeah. [0:16:31, 0:16:36]: We okay. So what is what is it? Okay, what well what it is is that um [0:16:37, 0:16:57]: Red Ribbon Week and uh has here some school pr anybody from the educational principals here, okay. And uh breast cancer awareness month um is what I have here and I have a name of Rachel Jones and is okay, she's not here to at point. Now, um [0:16:57, 0:17:00]: And I [0:17:00, 0:17:06]: Hardy, I see you, sir. And for I know that come on up for a second. Please come on up, Hardy. [0:17:12, 0:17:32]: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Hardy Abbott. He works for Vijestar. Come come on over here, Mr. Micr. This works for Vijestar, which is in our community. It's on uh Eagles Landing Parkway. And Vijestar is actually a sponsor for uh for our amphitheater, D Bridge. All right, now the other day, just uh it was a Sunday night, just last night, we had a wonderful [0:17:32, 0:17:51]: uh concert and during that concert we actually uh uh gave the city excuse me gave five star a proclamation from the city in reference to um good good goes everywhere what's it called goods everywhere. Good goes everywhere. Right. And so what it amounts to deals with their nonprofit all the [0:17:51, 0:18:11]: And the fact that we have a real great relationship with ViceTar. They've been a lot, there's not only sponsored on Amphitheater, they've been a lot a lot of sponsors of supporting many activities here in the city of Stockbridge. [0:18:11, 0:18:19]: So happens that when I I I issued that to you, we issue a group of issued that to you, and um the proclamation that we read the other night. [0:18:20, 0:18:23]: is not here in front of me right now. Okay? [0:18:23, 0:18:43]: So I've just that's just wanna bring it up. I don't know I don't know but we you you we'll we'll make sure we issue that pack to you again, right? But I but it's not sitting right here. Uh so but I don't want to waste your time and have you sitting and wait, all right? We appreciate that. No problem. But on that note, I tried to give a small little synopsis. But if sir, if you have anything you wanna say, here's a mic for you. Please do. [0:18:43, 0:18:44]: Please do. [0:18:44, 0:19:04]: Thank you so much for having us on today. So Stockbridge was the first location of Vystar. Vistar started in 1952, Jack's Navy Federal, with five members and well, excuse me, with 12 members with only$5. So ViceTar is definitely in the [0:19:04, 0:19:24]: community and we believe that we want to do good so individuals can definitely bank better. We are excited about the partnership that we have with the city of Stockbridge as well as with the bridge. And of course we are here for the community so that we can help your friends and family succeed financially. [0:19:24, 0:19:42]: We are located at 980 Eagles Landing Parkway. So any of the financial needs that you might need some assistance with, we are excited to be able to offer you some advice and some guidance so that you can reach those financial dreams. Overall, just a really quick story. [0:19:43, 0:20:03]: My mom raised me and um my father was there too, but she was really, really, really keen on financial wellness. And of course, I was able to purchase my first home at the age of 23. So if I can do it, anybody can do it. So and I want to offer that same guidance so that everyone [0:20:02, 0:20:20]: I personally believe it's not so much if you can be a homeowner, it's just when. So I just would encourage you to come and visit us. And last but certainly not least, we've been sharing with everybody. Can't tell you who to vote for, but make sure you exercise your civic duty and vote. Thank you. God bless you. [0:20:25, 0:20:31]: Since you are a partner of Stockbridge and we'll have a long-standing relationship without a doubt. [0:20:32, 0:20:33]: Yeah, I got used to. [0:20:37, 0:20:40]: If you don't want to look forward, should put things on. [0:20:47, 0:20:52]: Thank you, Tom. Thank you. Okay, you know what? Here [0:20:53, 0:21:01]: I I need a document, sir. Just in a time. Just in a nick of time. [0:21:14, 0:21:20]: Thank you. All right. We're gonna we're gonna go through the whole thing, right? We we got time. I've got so this is uh [0:21:20, 0:21:25]: So let me let me just read this for you all. And some of the things uh let's go through this process. Good is everywhere. [0:21:25, 0:21:34]: Whereas since the founding of 1952, the Naval Air Station Jacksonville ByStar Credit Union has provided high-quality financial services to the people of Northeast Florida. [0:21:35, 0:21:44]: Whereas ViStar Credit Unit started with just twelve members and was since grown to become the thirteenth largest in the nation, now serving nearly one million members throughout Florida and Georgia. [0:21:44, 0:22:01]: Whereas a critical part of the credit union movement is commonly uh is community engagement. And last year, ViceStar provided more than 6.5 million in donations and grants to local nonprofits. ViceStar is a proud sponsor of Stockbridge Amphitheater, and our members can receive a special discount on select shows. [0:22:01, 0:22:12]: Whereas employee volunteerism and community stewardship is also central to ByStar's culture, and each year the credit union sponsors a multi-day effort across the footprint called Good Is Everywhere. [0:22:13, 0:22:33]: This initiative focused on recognizing the good that exists in the world by spotlighting local organizations that do important work each day and supporting them with volunteer efforts led by employees. Whereas in 2023, the Good Is Everywhere campaign resulted in 128 company-wide service events involving 1,360. [0:22:33, 0:22:52]: Employees, nearly 6,000 volunteer hours logged, and more than$22,000 worth of employee-led nonprofit donations. Whereas ViceTar members and others from the community will be given opportunities for free access during Good Is Everywhere to important cultural institutions that do good for our community every day, such as Stockbridge Amphitheater. [0:22:52, 0:23:12]: And whereas the Stockbridge community joins VISTAR in celebrating good is everywhere in 2024 and recognize the impact of VISTAR and other credit unions to continue to have our residents' financial wellness and region's economic development. Now therefore, I Anthony Sforbivers Authority Invest in Me is the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of city council members Elton Alexander Lonabarbara, [0:23:12, 0:23:16]: Cowbury, Lakese again, and Fonzo Thomas do hereby proclaim [0:23:16, 0:23:36]: Sunday, which was yesterday, October 13th, 2024, Good Is Every Day, every excuse me, Good Is Everywhere Day in the Great City of Stockbridge, Georgia, and encourage all citizens to recognize the important contributions of Vice Star Credit Union and its employees in both our business sector and our community as a whole. A witness thereof, I have hereunto sat my hand in the great CLC. [0:23:36, 0:23:46]: Stockbridge, Georgia, on the thirteenth day of October, year of our Lord, 2024, and I signed a proclamation along with our clerk for Nessa Holiday. There you go, sir. Thank you. [0:23:47, 0:23:56]: All right. So unless you want yeah we're going to want much yourself, that's what that's why I get I got called at it too. Let's just go ahead and just take a picture with this as well. [0:24:05, 0:24:10]: Thank you. Thank you, Kyle. No problem. No problem. Thank you. [0:24:12, 0:24:13]: Okay. [0:24:16, 0:24:17]: Rachel Jones. [0:24:20, 0:24:22]: Any uh school principal sis Barnes or Stockwood Elementary? [0:24:26, 0:24:30]: Uh breast council awareness. Anybody here for breast council awareness? [0:24:34, 0:24:36]: Alrighty. Well [0:24:39, 0:24:43]: I I know we're gonna find out. It's a second. We're gonna wait a bit and see who this is. [0:24:44, 0:24:50]: No, that's not that's that's our employee. Uh huh. That's our employee. [0:24:50, 0:24:54]: All right, so Red Ribbon Week, twenty twenty four. [0:24:56, 0:25:16]: All right, so this deals with uh where substance issues uh affect individuals, families, and communities across Henry County, Center Georgia, and the nation. Whereas an imperative that communities launch visible, unified prevention education to eliminate the demand for drugs. Whereas the National Red Ribbon campaign offers citizens the opportunity to demonstrate their commitment to drug-free. [0:25:16, 0:25:36]: free lifestyles, no use of illegal drugs, no illegal use of legal drugs. And the National Red Ribbon campaign will also will be celebrated in every community in America during Red Ribbon Week, October 23rd to 31st, establish the theme of Life is a movie, film drug-free. [0:25:36, 0:25:56]: And whereas business government parents, law enforcement, media, medical institutions, religious institutions, schools, senior citizens, service organizations, youth will demonstrate their commitment to healthy, drug-free lifestyles by wearing and displaying red ribbons during a week-long campaign. Now, therefore, I Anthony Forbes, but virtual authority invested in me as a mayor of city. [0:25:56, 0:26:16]: Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, Kyle, Berry, Akese Gann, and Afonso Thomas to hereby proclaim the week October 23rd to 31st as Red Ribb in Stockbridge, Georgia, and encourages all stakeholders to participate in drug prevention education activities not only during Red Ribbon Week, Red. [0:26:16, 0:26:17]: Ribbon week. [0:26:18, 0:26:27]: but also throughout the year making a vi visible statement, Bible a visible statement, that's right, that are strongly committed to drug free schools. And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand [0:26:27, 0:26:36]: Ratio stop race, Georgia on the 14th day of October, year of our Lord, 2024, and assigned the proclamation law on a prayer for Ness Holiday. Okay? All right. [0:26:36, 0:26:48]: So I don't know if the council wanna make any comments and reference this at all. Okay, okay. Alright, just I'll I'll figure out. Okay. [0:26:49, 0:26:50]: Good. [0:26:59, 0:27:01]: No question about this. [0:27:05, 0:27:05]: Right. [0:27:11, 0:27:14]: Okay, once again breast casting awareness. Anybody here to receive this proclamation? [0:27:14, 0:27:24]: If anyone who uh related to someone that lost to battle with the rest cancer or survival to give some other support, awareness and education. [0:27:25, 0:27:41]: Rest cancer this month. We actually please them and honor those who lost their lives, men and women in the middle. Those who are survivors or no survivors. Thank you. [0:27:44, 0:28:04]: Come on in, folks. Come on, come on, ladies. Alrighty. Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Whereas the month of October is about more than pink ribbons. While some feel inspired, many people living with breast cancer feel like the month may overlook their experience with the disease. Whereas breast cancer awareness [0:28:04, 0:28:12]: Awareness Month can mean different things to different people. For some, 31 days in the fall of a pink ribbon remembers, reminds, well, reminds. [0:28:13, 0:28:33]: members, excuse me, of the disease and forever change them. Whereas Breast Cancer Awareness Month is an international health campaign held every October. The month aims to promote screening and prevention of the disease, which affects two point three million women worldwide, and is aimed at supporting people diagnosed with breast cancer, educating [0:28:33, 0:28:38]: People about breast cancer risk factors encouraging women to get regular screening. [0:28:38, 0:28:40]: uh starting at the age of forty or earlier. [0:28:40, 0:29:00]: And fundraising for breast cancer research. Whereas October 13th, Mesthetic Breast Cancer Awareness Day, October 17th and 23rd is Met of Men's Breast Cancer Awareness Week. Now, therefore, I Anthony S. Ford, Bivarse Authority, Vest and Mia's Mary City of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of City Council members, uh Elton Alexander Lana, Barber Cowberry, Kisa Gann, Afonso. [0:29:00, 0:29:04]: Thomas to hereby proclaim the month of October as breast cancer awareness month. [0:29:05, 0:29:11]: And we encourage citizens and agencies to join in and promote activities that will increase their awareness to prevent and control breast cancer. [0:29:12, 0:29:19]: And to pay tribute to those who lost their battle with the disease. And witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in Great Seal City, Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:29:19, 0:29:26]: Fourteenth day of October, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-four, and to sign a proclamation along with our holiday. [0:29:29, 0:29:37]: Now I have only two right here. So I mean I can issue two, and if we need to issue more, we can at another later date. And [0:29:39, 0:29:40]: Anybody? [0:29:40, 0:29:44]: I am not a survivor. Anybody here is an actual survivor? [0:29:45, 0:29:47]: Okay, family members that are survivors. [0:29:48, 0:30:05]: There you go. That's one. Okay. All right. Come on come on here, Gordon. And uh since you're accepting that, you have you had the floor. Uh just wanna say it's it was my stepsister that survived um breast cancer a while back, so thank you. All right. [0:30:11, 0:30:27]: Hi there, my name is Andrea Carter. I'm also with ViStar Credit Union. Um, and I lost my grandmother to breast cancer and I had another aunt who is a survivor. And so I appreciate all the work that's been do being done this month, the awareness, boots on the ground, and I will say [0:30:27, 0:30:37]: In addition to voting, make sure you do your self press exams and make sure you go and get your mammograms regularly. So I just applaud everybody here that's in the trenches doing the work. [0:30:39, 0:30:53]: Shift, shift down this way so we can take a picture. Everybody shift this way. Come on down. We have to double up. Power people in the back. Show the folks up front. Right? Come on, come on, folks. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on down. Please. [0:30:55, 0:31:08]: Okay. Come on in, come on in. All right. You good? Sure, sure. Okay. You good? Come on. [0:31:08, 0:31:09]: For canceling. [0:31:14, 0:31:18]: Right and [0:31:28, 0:31:38]: This last proclamation deals with women's small business month. So all you women that are present here that have a business, come on up. If you have a business, come on up. [0:31:39, 0:31:41]: Women business owners. [0:31:48, 0:31:50]: Win women business owners, come on. [0:31:52, 0:31:53]: All right. Come on down. [0:31:54, 0:31:55]: Come on down. [0:31:55, 0:31:57]: That that show called Come On Down. [0:31:58, 0:32:18]: Women's Small Business Month proclamation from the city of Stockbridge. Whereas National Women's Small Business Month is celebrated in October each year to honor the achievements of women entrepreneurs and the businesses they own. It's also time to recognize. [0:32:18, 0:32:32]: The challenges of women-owned businesses face and to highlight resources to help them succeed. Whereas in 1972, there were little over 400,000 women-owned businesses in the United States until 1988. Women needed a male relative or co-signed. [0:32:32, 0:32:34]: If they wanted to apply for a business loan. [0:32:34, 0:32:54]: That same year, the Women's Business Ownership Act increased SBA's access to capital, provide financial assistance to organizations geared toward women-owned small businesses. By 2019, women-owned businesses represented 42% of all U.S. businesses and generated$1.9 trillion worth of revenue. [0:32:54, 0:33:09]: Outstanding. Okay. Today there are over 13 million women-owned businesses counting, and every October Small Business Administration honors the milestone achievements of today's women-owned businesses and the positive impact they are making on jobs and the economy. [0:33:10, 0:33:17]: Whereas throughout the month, organizations, businesses are aspiring aspiring, excuse me, entrepreneurs share their resources and advice they support. [0:33:17, 0:33:23]: o uh women owned businesses. Now therefore I Anthony S forward by virtual authority vested in me as American Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:33:24, 0:33:33]: Now on behalf of city council members El Nala Zander, Alana, Barber, Kyle, Berry, Nikis again, Afonso Thomas, you hereby proclaim the month of October as National Women's Small Business Month. [0:33:33, 0:33:37]: We encourage everyone to support these small businesses in our local community. [0:33:37, 0:33:45]: The witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in great seal city, Stockbridge, Georgia, on the fourteenth day of October, year of our Lord, two thousand twenty-four, and assigned this alone with [0:33:45, 0:33:51]: Uh our clerk for Nessa Holliday. [0:33:55, 0:33:59]: We are several ladies. Okay. Thank you. Okay. [0:34:00, 0:34:05]: Okay. [0:34:06, 0:34:26]: All right. All right. Uh so this so here before we take a photograph though, ladies, you have the floor. Who else to speak? Anybody? Any any of you ladies, go ahead. Well, I want to thank the great city of Stockbridge. Um, they have been phenomenal to me. Every time they need me, I'm here with myself and [0:34:25, 0:34:33]: My business. I wanna let you know November sixth is eighteen years in the downtown area of City of Stockville. [0:34:38, 0:34:39]: Mm. [0:34:41, 0:35:01]: Good evening everyone. Latanya Brown, I just want to say thank you. I was coming to support someone. Um but I will say that um I own a nonprofit here in Henry, uh LB Legacy Network Incorporated, and we um give out lots of scholarships uh to the youth here in Henry County and I'm proud [0:35:01, 0:35:21]: proud to say that um we also partner quite a bit with some of the local businesses and Angie's being one of them. So it's an it's an honor to be here on behalf of my business as a woman business owner, but also to be supporting the city of Stockbridge and the citizens therein. So thank you. [0:35:21, 0:35:21]: So much. [0:35:25, 0:35:27]: [2128.1, 2148.1]: Good evening, everyone. My name is Diane Miller. I am the curator and owner of the historic Greenfront Cafe located here in our lovely city of Stockbridge. I would like to thank the City of Stockbridge for creating an environment that allows our businesses to grow and to thrive. I'd also like to commend all of my sisters. [0:35:48, 0:36:04]: sisters that are here that have started businesses, that are running businesses, that are moms, sisters, aunties, and doing all the rest of the things that we do while we're running the businesses. Again, thank you everyone and uh Greenfront Cafe, the best kept secret in Stockbridge. [0:36:08, 0:36:18]: I guess I had to say something. Um, thank you to the C D for the support. Again, thank you for my family and G's Cafe, because without them nothing would have been possible. [0:36:18, 0:36:21]: Thank you, Ms. Doctor Brown, for your support. [0:36:21, 0:36:22]: And [0:36:23, 0:36:24]: I'm so grateful. [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: Thank you. [0:36:32, 0:36:40]: I feel the pressure. I'm Sharon Ohamba, SFO designs. I am a seamstress and an artisan. [0:36:45, 0:37:05]: Real quick, um, I wanna thank all these ladies. I know the hard work it takes. As an owner of businesses throughout, from having my own law firm to the ice cream shop that I have welcome home um creamer and coffee that's won um numerous amounts of awards. It takes a community and each and every one of these business owners. [0:37:05, 0:37:25]: Have contributed to Stockbridge already and it is growing. And I commend them because they're daughters, right? And they're sons, but mainly daughters get to see that we too make a difference. And we too, and it's hard. It can it it's extremely hard. [0:37:25, 0:37:34]: um work as a business owner. So I want to thank each and every one of you for the efforts and the work that you have done. And so let's celebrate being women. [0:37:37, 0:37:47]: Come on now so we check you come down so we took a photo back. Watch a step. Come on ladies. Watch a step, watch a step like that. Come on down. [0:37:48, 0:37:54]: Maybe that's the [0:37:54, 0:37:57]: They're shanging it first. [0:38:03, 0:38:06]: Okay. [0:38:25, 0:38:36]: Thank you. That is uh That is it for the proclamations. We'll get started with our meeting here shortly. And [0:38:50, 0:38:54]: It does. [0:39:48, 0:39:51]: Council, I want you to know it's it's uh after six o'clock. [0:39:51, 0:39:53]: Okay. Well. [0:39:55, 0:39:58]: Council, I want you to know it's after six o'clock. We need to get started with our meeting, please. [0:40:15, 0:40:19]: Yeah, yeah, just talk about that. [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: Yeah. [0:42:28, 0:42:30]: All right. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: All right, council and please come to Dias. Let's get started with our meeting, please. [0:42:40, 0:42:41]: Okay. [0:42:44, 0:42:45]: Gentlemen. [0:42:51, 0:42:55]: All right. [0:42:56, 0:43:04]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, like to call our um Council City Council meeting Monday, October 14th, uh to order. It is six oh five. [0:43:05, 0:43:10]: And on that note, if you please stand, uh invocation, Mr. Hardy Abbott from Vice Star Credit Union, please. [0:43:11, 0:43:11]: Uh uh. [0:43:15, 0:43:17]: You've come to the mic, sir. Uh [0:43:18, 0:43:22]: It should be hopefully the mic is it should be on. Okay, go ahead, sir, please. Thank you. [0:43:22, 0:43:42]: Let us pray. All wise and eternal God, we thank you for another opportunity to be able to say thank you. We thank you for this opportunity for leaders to be able to s assemble, to be able to make decisions that will drive our community in a positive direction. We pray, O God, that you would be in the midst, O God. [0:43:42, 0:44:02]: We pray that you would continue to give us God ideas that will continue to give us good strategy. We pray that you would give us good influence so that we might make wise decisions that will impact our community as well as our nation. We pray for individuals individually as well as collectively. And we thank you in advance for victory. [0:44:02, 0:44:22]: Vivic victory privately as well as victory publicly. We pray for the hearts and we pray for this city, oh God, that you will continue to allow us to operate in favor. We thank you, oh God, that our faith is producing manifested, tangible realities in our present moment. We give you glory and we give you honor and we say thank you. [0:44:22, 0:44:33]: Thank you for what you have done. Thank you for what you are doing. And thank you for what you will do. And it's in the name of Jesus that we pray and ask it all. Amen. Amen. [0:44:34, 0:44:46]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation, one of God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:44:47, 0:44:50]: Roll call, Madam Kirk, please. [0:44:52, 0:44:53]: Good evening. [0:44:54, 0:44:55]: Present. [0:44:57, 0:44:57]: Present. [0:44:59, 0:45:01]: Present. [0:45:03, 0:45:11]: Council Member Barber is not an attendant. Councilmember Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a call. [0:45:11, 0:45:20]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Um well first thing I'd like to mention in the in the agenda here, we have public hearing deferred items for announcement. [0:45:20, 0:45:40]: So what we have here, the following items have been deferred to the November 12th, 2024 meeting. Text amendment case number uh TX-2024-05, which deals with the citywide. Special use permit case SP-2024-01. It's located in Council District 3. Special use permit case. [0:45:40, 0:45:55]: Case SP-2024-02 located in Council District 4 and special use permit once again SP two zero two four-zero three also located in special district four. On that note, Council, I need an adoption two uh of the agenda, please. [0:45:57, 0:46:17]: So move. Is there a second for Mr. Alexander? Is there a second? Second, Mr. Barrett. All in favor, please indicate. She now seemed four four people. All right. Fantastic. Before you have the adoption of the minutes, approval to August 12th, um, 2024 council meeting minutes. Our retreat uh budget retreat many minutes from August 21st, 22nd, and 24th of 2024. [0:46:17, 0:46:17]: Yeah. [0:46:17, 0:46:32]: The uh August twenty seventh, twenty twenty four council work session minutes as well as September ninth council work me uh council meeting minutes and also September twenty fourth the council um and minutes uh for the September twenty fourth as well. All in favor of those minutes, please indicate. [0:46:34, 0:46:40]: Okay, m of co oh I'm sorry, I need a motion. Excuse me. Excuse me. I need a motion. So move. So move. All right, second. [0:46:40, 0:46:44]: Mr. Bart oh M Ms. Gas second from Alexander. All favor, please indicate. [0:46:45, 0:47:05]: Excuse me. All right, that fantastic. Ladies and gentlemen, what we had before the meeting, we had an actual ceremonial review, had several different proclamations that were read. Uh fire prevention month, uh we've uh issued that to our fire marshal, Demetrius Wells, Breast Cancer Awareness Uh Month. Um several recipients and uh received that. [0:47:05, 0:47:25]: Uh Red Ribbon Week, uh we issued that proclamation. Domestic Violence Week. We had uh representative for Haven House received that. Mental Health Awareness Month, uh I received that. Okay, I I need that as well, right? Women's Small Business Month, we have several uh small business owners uh that were here to receive that as well. Vice [0:47:24, 0:47:42]: Star uh is good every every day. Uh uh Hardy um uh uh Abbott uh received that for ViceTarr of the Credit Union, which also gave our invocation earlier today. And we had a Hispanic Heritage Month uh uh proclamation issued to Angie of Angie's Cafe. [0:47:43, 0:47:44]: Okay. [0:47:46, 0:47:48]: Any uh Madam Clerk, any public comments at all? [0:47:50, 0:48:10]: Okay. So we'll now go on to the consent agenda. Council consideration appoint Bishop LeRay uh Tillman to fill an unexpired term of the clergy representative position for the Citizens Police Advisory Council. If needed, that uh presented by Mr. Uh Chief Trammer if we needed to have that discussion. And then also on the consent agenda was exercised our first option. [0:48:10, 0:48:30]: Option renewal to contract RFQ number two zero two three-0012. Civic wayfinding a signature project with the lease companies incorporated. Once again, if you need a conversation about that's Mr. Fred Gardner. Is there a motion to accept this? He's consent agenda. Okay, from Mr. Alzheimer's. Is there a second? Okay, Mr. [0:48:30, 0:48:50]: Uh, Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision on that. Thank you very much. New business. Uh council consideration adopt a restated uh GMEBS retirement plan adoption agreement and general addendum with planned amendments presented by Ms. Wheeler and Michelle Warner, please. Ladies. [0:48:58, 0:48:58]: Right. Uh-huh. [0:49:00, 0:49:06]: Good evening, Mayor and Miss Warner is not here. She's with uh GMA, but [0:49:06, 0:49:10]: What uh I have before you is the um [0:49:10, 0:49:21]: Background information is the pension committee met. We had two meetings with GMA, one that we presented them with some amendments that we would like to make to the current uh retirement plan. [0:49:22, 0:49:23]: With a pension plan. [0:49:23, 0:49:25]: And um [0:49:25, 0:49:27]: They came back with [0:49:27, 0:49:34]: um information that we'd like to present to you uh for approval. Um [0:49:34, 0:49:36]: One of them is that the uh [0:49:37, 0:49:43]: Georgia Municipal Employee Benefit uh Plan has uh received a favorable determination letter. [0:49:43, 0:49:46]: From the IRS for the defined benefit retirement plan. [0:49:47, 0:49:51]: Each employer using the plan is required to adopt a restated adoption. [0:49:52, 0:49:55]: Agreement and general addendum as part of the restatement process. [0:49:56, 0:49:59]: Documents include adoption agreement, general addendum. [0:50:00, 0:50:00]: The restated. [0:50:01, 0:50:02]: Uh G M E [0:50:02, 0:50:07]: EBS basic plan documents and the summary of amendments in an opinion letter. [0:50:07, 0:50:12]: The pension committee met with GMA director as recommended and the following amendments. [0:50:13, 0:50:21]: were presented. One part uh one to increase the part-time number of hours from twenty hours to thirty hours. Um [0:50:23, 0:50:31]: Part-time hours to 30 hours. The other one was portable service from other Georgia municipal municipalities. [0:50:31, 0:50:46]: Towards the twenty years uh of service can be allowable. And what that meant is that police officers need to be in service with Stockbridge in order to meet this requirement of fifty-five years, fifty-five years of age and twenty years of service. [0:50:47, 0:50:50]: And if they have any service with another municipality. [0:50:50, 0:50:55]: that service is portable. So for instance, if they spent ten years with the [0:50:55, 0:50:58]: the say the city of Forest Park. [0:50:58, 0:51:02]: And which means that years of service would come over to [0:51:02, 0:51:10]: This uh with their retirement, and then all they would have to do is ten years with the city of Stockbridge as long as they reach fifty-five and they can retire. [0:51:12, 0:51:24]: And the um and that's basically it for the um for the plan um that we met with. So we're asking you all to um approve it. [0:51:25, 0:51:28]: Thank you, appreciate it. Council, any questions that you have for Miss Wheeler? [0:51:29, 0:51:30]: Anybody? [0:51:31, 0:51:34]: All right, there's no questions. I need a motion to accept this uh proposal. [0:51:36, 0:51:38]: Some of the things. [0:51:38, 0:51:40]: From Miss Kant to Miss Alzheimer's arm for you, please indicate. [0:51:41, 0:51:42]: Fantastic. Thank you. [0:51:43, 0:51:44]: Thank you, Ms. Willard. Thank you. [0:51:46, 0:52:05]: Council consideration to approve the proposed budget amendment as outlined within an attached ordinance to purchase the National Integrated Ballistic Information Network System, N I B I N, an amount of two hundred and seventy-seven thousand nine hundred and eighteen dollars. This is a sole source purchase from Ferzenic Fr Frzentic. [0:52:06, 0:52:15]: Uh technology, uh funding source general fund presented by uh Deputy Chief Goffrey here. Go ahead, sir, please. [0:52:15, 0:52:29]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Again, as you mentioned, Mayor, uh this is a budget amendment or request as well as a purchase request for a new NIBAN system through forensic technology in the amount of two hundred and seventy-seven thousand nine hundred and eighteen dollars. [0:52:30, 0:52:35]: This was one of the budgetary items that was listed on the um [0:52:37, 0:52:56]: Office of Planning and Budget Safety Community Violence Reduction Grant that was approved by Council back in August of twenty twenty-three. This is a sole source purchase. This will come from general funds temporarily. Once the purchase is made, we will submit and do a drawdown and reimburse the city for the full amount. [0:52:57, 0:53:02]: Uh thank you for that. Council, any questions for assistant chief? Go ahead, uh Mr. Thomas. [0:53:03, 0:53:05]: Uh assistant chief. Yes, sir. [0:53:05, 0:53:06]: That sounds pretty good. [0:53:07, 0:53:08]: Yes, sir it does. [0:53:08, 0:53:09]: Just wanna [0:53:10, 0:53:14]: I wanna thank you for the presentation and I was reading over this uh [0:53:15, 0:53:20]: over the weekend and I had a c concern and a question. I know this is um [0:53:20, 0:53:23]: You indicate it's coming from the general fund. [0:53:24, 0:53:30]: Um and it's going to be reimbursed to the city. [0:53:31, 0:53:33]: Uh but my question though is [0:53:34, 0:53:39]: Uh, since this is coming from the general fund, I was trying to identify [0:53:40, 0:53:43]: uh the line item exactly where the funds were actually coming from, so [0:53:44, 0:53:54]: if misses uh Gaines could come forward, maybe she can share some light with me'cause I was trying to get a better understanding. Uh I I think it's always good that [0:53:54, 0:54:01]: Uh the Stockbridge Police Department is uh building itself up to be able to do the work here in the city. [0:54:01, 0:54:08]: But I'm always concerned about the the finances and and actually where we're actually pulling it from and [0:54:08, 0:54:20]: I would have liked to have known uh in advance exactly where it was coming from, but well even that with that being said, maybe uh Mrs. Gain can can shed some light on that for evening, Mayor and Council. How are you? All right, evening. [0:54:20, 0:54:38]: So the two hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars in question would basically just come from the general fund. Um we'll do a budget adjustment if approved. And once the purchase had been made and we have an invoice, we'll immediately do what Mr. Godfrey said, which is a drawdown, and those funds will be immediately reimbursed to us. [0:54:39, 0:54:42]: Well, I I do understand that part'cause it was mentioned but [0:54:43, 0:54:45]: Um the line item. [0:54:46, 0:54:49]: Out of the general fund, can you identify the line item? [0:54:49, 0:54:50]: Yes, sir. You want me to give it to you now? [0:54:51, 0:54:51]: Yes, please. [0:54:52, 0:54:53]: One zero zero. [0:54:53, 0:54:54]: One zero [0:54:55, 0:55:00]: Go ahead. Zero zero uh five zero zero zero zero zero zero. [0:55:00, 0:55:01]: Okay. [0:55:02, 0:55:03]: And then it will be three zero. [0:55:04, 0:55:06]: Three zero. One zero zero. [0:55:06, 0:55:17]: One zero zero. So that's one zero zero zero zero zero three zero one zero zero. That's the line item. An additional zero, I'm sorry. [0:55:17, 0:55:21]: At the end. And that's the line item. Yes, sir. Thank you so much. [0:55:22, 0:55:29]: Any other quest is that is that all, sir? Yes. Okay, anything else from the council? Okay, no question any motion to accept this, please? [0:55:29, 0:55:31]: Okay for Ms. Alzheimer's a second. [0:55:32, 0:55:35]: Okay, o okay, Mr. Berry, all in favor, please in the K. [0:55:36, 0:55:39]: Thank you very much, gentlemen, ladies. Okay. [0:55:41, 0:55:52]: Council consideration adopt the ordinance to approve the job description organizational chart and pay and classification for the newly created position tax property tax specialist. Miss Gaines and Miss Wheeler, please. [0:55:55, 0:56:15]: Hi, Council. We've submitted a job description for the property tax specialists. And just to detail it, the uh the position will work closely with Mr. Cook over at Henry County. And we'll once we receive all the applications, they'll be reviewed. We'll compose the documentation that they set forth for us. [0:56:14, 0:56:20]: us and relay that information over to Cook County. I'm sorry, Henry County. [0:56:22, 0:56:28]: And they'll do other duties as assigned by finance as well. Year in close, month in clothes, but [0:56:28, 0:56:29]: Mm. [0:56:29, 0:56:35]: The homestead exemptions and collection of the property taxes will be the main ps responsibilities of this position. [0:56:37, 0:56:41]: All right, council, any any questions? Thoughts? Go ahead, Ms. Gantt. [0:56:41, 0:56:46]: So if we have our own properties tax specialists, why are we paying [0:56:47, 0:56:48]: The [0:56:49, 0:56:50]: Uh [0:56:50, 0:56:52]: Henry County Tax Commissioner. [0:56:53, 0:56:58]: a fee. Like what are we doing with our own? Uh aren't they collecting the taxes and [0:56:59, 0:57:02]: And doing all of those things that you're describing here in the job description? [0:57:04, 0:57:09]: They do not handle our homestead at all. They just collect the taxes and then [0:57:10, 0:57:17]: distribute them to us, but it's our responsibility to approve andor deny homestead exemptions. It's also our responsibility to keep [0:57:18, 0:57:21]: A tally of delinquent taxes and unpaid taxes. [0:57:24, 0:57:44]: You wanna expound on that? It's you're saying it's our responsibility. Tell me wha what is Michael Harris's responsibility? So under our um forty nine agreement, they collect our taxes as part of that agreement. Um but there is a state law that requires that if you do homestead exemption, this is what I was talking about. [0:57:44, 0:57:47]: We have to be responsible for the exemption side that was not covered. [0:57:48, 0:57:59]: And there's he told me that there's a specific state law that guides that. So for everybody to do homestead exemp that those communities to do homestead exemption, they required for actually handling that side of the house, not not Henry County. [0:58:01, 0:58:10]: And that's the reason why. This was we discussed this at the retreat, and I remember telling y'all that this was coming because of that requirement that that Michael Harris told us about. [0:58:10, 0:58:16]: And that we needed to get ahead of it obviously to make sure that we have somebody in place to be able to do the homestead exemption side of the house. [0:58:16, 0:58:17]: They were not [0:58:17, 0:58:19]: contracted to do that. [0:58:26, 0:58:27]: But they get a V. [0:58:28, 0:58:40]: Bigger percentage. Um I I I uh we we talked about that and uh he was specific and asked to read that's the only reason why this is before you because we had that conversation with with um Mr. Harris. [0:58:42, 0:58:42]: Okay. [0:58:44, 0:59:04]: Any other questions from the council? Yes. Go ahead, Mr. Bear. So additionally, um, we talked about this position is based upon the election as well, whether or not that is ratified. Yes, sir. And so in the event that it is not, what if we approve this position tonight, what is the conclusion of [0:59:04, 0:59:12]: What we ratify here on council for this position in the event the citizens don't approve the homestead. How would we handle that? [0:59:13, 0:59:33]: We're still responsible for tracking our delinquencies and the position would also help with other financial responsibilities, open records requests, um year-in closing, just finishing out things that are needed for finance. So in the event of the election, we will rename it something else. We would have to come back and rename the position. [0:59:33, 0:59:40]: That's what I wanted to get. Yeah. You know, not more than fifty percent of the job duties are going to be collecting [0:59:40, 0:59:57]: or doing the homestead exemption, which would be a large part of the physi position's job. So we'll have to come back to you all, reclass the position to something else and for those new duties or remove the majority of the duties and add new duties to the position. [0:59:57, 1:00:04]: Right, because we also have some other carryover. Okay. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you for clarifying it for me. [1:00:04, 1:00:05]: Any other questions from the council? [1:00:07, 1:00:10]: All right, then I just need a motion to accept this uh new job description. [1:00:11, 1:00:15]: Is there a second? Mr. Burr from Malazander. Mr. Berry, are all fair, please in the K. [1:00:17, 1:00:22]: Oppose? You oppose okay, three three one, it passes. Miss Gann opposes. Okay, thank you, ladies. [1:00:24, 1:00:26]: What's next, ladies and gentlemen, is a public hearing. [1:00:26, 1:00:28]: Let me read the rules for public hearing. [1:00:30, 1:00:40]: Okay, please mute all cell phones and electronic devices. Anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. [1:00:41, 1:01:01]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by an applicant or representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with or any relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following an applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have the opportunity to do so. [1:01:01, 1:01:13]: East side will be allotted ten minutes total. 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The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the [1:02:01, 1:02:18]: If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. The presiding officer will call for the motion and a second to the motion and have any unnecessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [1:02:21, 1:02:35]: So now we're in a public hearing, it's now open. Number nine, rezoning case RZ2024-07 for the Patrick Henry Parkway Master Plan located in Council District 5. [1:02:35, 1:02:55]: Consideration of the Patrick Henry Parkway master plan, which is prepared by the TSW Consulting Firm, it proposed a mixture of retail, commercial, residential, and entertainment uses for areas along the southern end of Patrick Henry Parkway, with some properties lying within the city's stopper city limits, and others lying within uh inaccorporated Henry County. [1:02:55, 1:02:58]: And this evening is be presented by Mr. Gardner, please. [1:03:00, 1:03:02]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening, sir. [1:03:10, 1:03:11]: So [1:03:12, 1:03:18]: Tonight I'm gonna kinda give you guys a overview of how we got here and then I'm gonna let staff handle the technical side of it. But [1:03:18, 1:03:27]: This was an initiative that started and uh out of the city manager's office to look at how do we master plan this corridor that's within the city limits. [1:03:27, 1:03:33]: Um specifically not waiting until we have requests for development to come in, but guide. [1:03:33, 1:03:53]: that development. And this was an effort that spend going on going for over a year, working with the property owners and the property owners repres represent representatives within that area to sit down with our land planning firm and look at how do we make this uh corridor one of the most unique corridors [1:03:53, 1:04:13]: Not only in the city of Stockbridge and Henry County, but for the first time to have a vertical mixed use project on the south side of Atlanta. And those property owners were on board and their representatives were engaged in the process and be able to come up with a master plan for the Patriot. [1:04:13, 1:04:20]: Patrick Henry Corridor and the owners of the properties in conjunction with another developer who [1:04:21, 1:04:26]: Um has been integral in changing the landscape in the Jodica Road Corridor, Mr. Jeff Grant. [1:04:26, 1:04:29]: Um assisted with facilitating [1:04:29, 1:04:31]: Um the ownership on the corridor. [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: And um [1:04:34, 1:04:39]: We came up with this master plan and so part of that agreement was we would rezone the property. Um [1:04:41, 1:04:44]: to guide the development within this area. And so you have a [1:04:45, 1:05:05]: on your screen. You should have a the map of that corridor. Uh I will say that the apartment complex to the north uh of we've discussed in exe uh in executive session that portion of the corridor is going to change. Um so we will not be probably on those [1:05:05, 1:05:12]: Those apartments. Um, those apartments will go away, but this majority of the property will be developed as as designed. [1:05:12, 1:05:32]: Um spoke with the representative of the land ownership below Holloway and they'll be submitting an annexation because that's the part that we don't control. It's still in the county. But uh Mr. Patel has agreed and will fill in the application and submit it to our planning department to annex that portion so we will have that whole corridor uh in the city, except for the piece where the [1:05:32, 1:05:52]: The senior homes is being built right now. It's just still in the county. That's the only portion that's left in unincorporated Henry County. And so with that, I'm gonna let the staff come in if you guys want to go through anything. But mostly what you have is a mix of residential, multifamily, single-family. [1:05:52, 1:06:12]: family attach, um, residential above, uh retail, retail, uh, and there's a few office spaces as part of the development. Um there is an LOI for a specific use in that area where the apartments is going that was signed um by the landowner and the entity. [1:06:12, 1:06:22]: Um and there's another verbal L O I for a luxury car dealer to come in on a portion of s a portion of this property as well. Um [1:06:22, 1:06:27]: So with that, I think the staff we presented this to the planning commission about a month and a half ago. [1:06:27, 1:06:38]: Uh it came back before the planning commission. They voted to approve it and s staff recommends approval of this. [1:06:38, 1:06:44]: I'm gonna give that quick overview and I didn't write the staff report, so I'm gonna let the staff kinda go through the staff report with you. [1:06:52, 1:06:52]: Okay. [1:07:06, 1:07:10]: Well, we'll entertain any questions you guys may have. I mean I think council is aware that this has been coming. [1:07:11, 1:07:17]: Yes. Well we'll imagine I'll uh I'll let Mr. Azan since it's his district, I imagine he has a few questions. Que answer. [1:07:18, 1:07:38]: Well, first of all, Mr. Gardner had engaged me during the process and we had discussed um the specifics behind this and the desire to attract the type of businesses that the community had desired so they don't have to leave their community to work, eat. [1:07:37, 1:07:57]: shop and to work. And this development provides the first real opportunity for that to happen. And in partnership with the entities and with the letter of intent, these are some businesses that people would, if they understood who they were, would really be very excited and understanding. [1:07:57, 1:08:17]: Understand some of the businesses that they have desired now have an eye on Henry County because of the excellent work the staff has done in coordinating this. This determines so that when somebody comes here and says to us that we uh this is what we want. The city manager was proactive in going to them and saying, [1:08:17, 1:08:37]: This is what we want up front in coordination with myself and the businesses, and you all as well have been tapped into what has been going on here. And this project offers us an opportunity to do some other things in terms of infrastructure as far as widening Patrick Henry Parkway in the future, uh having a [1:08:37, 1:08:57]: a 10 foot multi-use path to put together a walkable and golf cart area uh in there so that one day that uh produ that residents will be able to leave and enjoy and connect the uh Eagles Landing Parkway area to uh the Jodica area via uh golf cart. [1:08:57, 1:09:17]: be a scooter or uh alternative transportation as well as connecting to downtown uh in the overall scheme of things. But this is one of the highest quality development standards in all of Georgia. Is that correct, Mr. Gardner? [1:09:17, 1:09:37]: gonna set some high. I said one of the one of them, yes sir. It'll be one of the right. Yes sir. We're gonna say that'll be one of the that's what I'm saying. Obviously uh it depends on what the end users are, but it'll be let's let me rephrase that. It will be one of the highest standards in Georgia. That is correct. Absolutely. So that was our goal to be [1:09:37, 1:09:57]: uh in the top tier uh with this development so it would uh reflect what the community had desired because we had a number of years ago we had a number of charretes that we had people come to to say what type of buildings that they want to uh have in the community and all of those are reflected uh in this particular development. [1:09:57, 1:10:12]: along Patrick Henry Parkway. And again, the b the grand plan offers us an opportunity to do what is needed to be done, which is expanding and widening Patrick Henry Parkway along this corridor in coordination with mister Berry's district. [1:10:12, 1:10:32]: When Rock Cory Road is widening, this will offer great transportation between those two areas where you'll be able to go uh from Jodico Road all the way to North Henry Boulevard on the improved infrastructure and traffic. And then on the other side of 75, you know where they're going with the Hudson Bridge Road to Jonesburg. [1:10:32, 1:10:52]: Road connector. So we'll have one of the best infrastructure and transportation corridors, two of them, right here in this area, and that will allow us to be able to compete, to keep our citizens and to bring good jobs to this area. [1:10:52, 1:10:56]: area. Right, sir. Yes, sir. And and I'll expand on that. Um [1:10:57, 1:11:01]: Recently I was contacted by the development devi approved I think over a year ago just north of this. [1:11:02, 1:11:07]: Uh and they want to be a part of this synergy uh in terms of the Patrick Henry corridor and [1:11:07, 1:11:25]: So as they're going they're gonna be coming for their land planning process to see how they could connect to what we're proposing here, not only through the ten foot wide path, but into development, mm, how we could connect so that those folks don't have to get on Patrick Henry to get down to enjoy the entertainment and the [1:11:25, 1:11:45]: lifestyle choice that that we're gonna develop here. I will also say that I'm looking forward to moving on the other side and meeting with those landowners and doing the same thing there so that we can s seriously plan out these areas, being proactive rather than reactive to zoning requests. We're proactive in terms of what we want to see. And so when those entities come, [1:11:46, 1:11:59]: Those owners go out and they meet with developers. They already know what's being what's planned for the area. And so there isn't a lot of back and forth between us and them because we've gone forward with the landowners and land planned ahead of time. [1:11:59, 1:12:00]: Outstanding. [1:12:01, 1:12:20]: Ms. Gann, I think you have something on you wanted all your mind. You good? All right, gentlemen down here. Anybody? You all good? All right. Well I uh Ms. Alexander, you put a motion in in place? Yes, sir. The staff has recommended approval of this measure for the Patrick Henry Parkway master plan, and I make a motion to approve. [1:12:20, 1:12:31]: I second. Okay. I think you gotta open it to the public. It is a is a rezoning search. Okay, yeah, yeah. You know what? Thank thank you. Normally no I'm glad you caught it. Normally the clerk's got it. Clerk you didn't [1:12:31, 1:12:33]: Yeah, yeah. [1:12:34, 1:12:44]: I d Thank you. I'm tell I'm sorry, I'm jumping the gun. Thank you. All right. All right. It is a public hearing. [1:12:44, 1:12:51]: All right, so uh comments. Anybody that has comments four. Uh my far uh my far left side, anybody have comments four? [1:12:52, 1:12:54]: In the middle. Anybody has comments four in the middle? [1:12:54, 1:13:08]: Anybody have comments for and on my far right? Anybody have comment have comments against this particular development in my far left? Against in the middle. Anybody in the far right? Against comments against this project. Okay. That part of this uh [1:13:08, 1:13:14]: Public hearing is closed. Okay, now on that note, now Mr Alexander, please. [1:13:14, 1:13:19]: I make a recommendation to approve the Patrick Henry Parkway master plan recommended by staff. [1:13:20, 1:13:24]: I second. Ms. Can't second that all favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. There we go. [1:13:25, 1:13:45]: Thank you, City Manager, for that. Thank you. All right. City of Stockbridge 2025-2029 short-term work program capital improvement element. STWP slash C I E. The Community Development Department is requesting that the City Council approve. [1:13:45, 1:14:05]: The transmittal of the 2025-29 2029 short-term work program capital improvement element STWP slash CIE to the Department of Community Affairs and Atlanta Regional Commission for the review and recommendations. Mr. Anderson, please. All right. Good afternoon, Mayor and Cameron. [1:14:04, 1:14:05]: Also uh [1:14:08, 1:14:28]: Uh what staff is presenting tonight is the um twenty twenty-five to twenty twenty nine capital improvement short term work program element asking for mis permission for the mayor to be able to transmit um the package to the ARC for review. So um son of [1:14:30, 1:14:34]: Here's the um on the screen is a copy of the letter. [1:14:34, 1:14:40]: That the mayor will will be actually signing and um that it goes along with the package that we will be transmitting. [1:14:40, 1:15:00]: Mr. Ryan, I just got I did sign this when I came in today. I signed it and I gave the copy to Ms. Rawl. So she has a signed copy for you. Okay counsel here signed copy for you. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right, so this is a copy of that letter, uh, so everyone can see. Uh here's the the um the copy of the uh resolution. [1:15:03, 1:15:19]: uh uh authorizing transmission and um last this is the copy of the um short term work program itself uh list of new projects projects that are underway and uh completed projects [1:15:20, 1:15:25]: So here's the uh list of projects under the category uh community facilities. [1:15:31, 1:15:40]: So there's a total of 31 projects with a grand total of$58,470,765. [1:15:43, 1:15:53]: Here is a list of uh projects under the category of economic development. For a total of 220,000, there are four projects. [1:15:55, 1:16:01]: And land use uh this is follows on the the community development department. Um [1:16:02, 1:16:17]: We have uh six projects for a total of uh one million dollars. Transportation, which is under the auspices of the Public Works Department. Uh they have four major projects totaling fifteen million five hundred thousand dollars. [1:16:24, 1:16:27]: And here's the list of completed projects over the years. [1:16:29, 1:16:39]: And uh the total of our completed projects total forty six million nine hundred and fifty three thousand eight hundred and eleven dollars. And that's the presentation. [1:16:39, 1:16:40]: All right. Thank you. [1:16:41, 1:16:43]: Council, any questions for Mr. Anderson at all? [1:16:45, 1:17:05]: Go ahead, sir. So I just will always like to when you go over this so people understand. A lot of times folks will say, well, where did this come from, or where did that come from? This is the plan, right? Yes. When we go about when the amphitheater came about, uh, when the cultural arts center is going to come about, uh, when the uh national [1:17:05, 1:17:25]: Now it's the multi-generational recreation center. Instead of saying youth center, I think that sounds better. In terms of where we're going, all of that is in our work plan. And we have to make sure that those items are included in this plan, correct? Yes, correct. So we have uh again on the spLOS, voters will have the opportunity. [1:17:25, 1:17:45]: Opportunity to vote on the multi-generational recreation center. There's$10 million that's on that SPLOST. If voters vote yes, we will have$10 million to build the recreation center that we had designed by TSW and such projects as that. We just reviewed the master. [1:17:45, 1:18:05]: parks plan and we saw some amazing things, especially over in Memorial Park, uh in Clark Park, Gardner Park, and then we have a new park coming in Mr. Gar Mr. Berry's district over there on 12 acres that we'll have money to pass if vote is so determined. We can't tell you how to vote here. [1:18:05, 1:18:25]: We just advise you what the case may be. But all of those are included in this work plan that we're working up to make sure that we uh have listed all of these projects because Park Master Parks plan includes the projects that I've already mentioned here. Yes. So what we're doing is we're systematically [1:18:25, 1:18:45]: Putting the steps together and explaining to the region what we're going to do. And then because anything that we expect to do needs to be in this plan if we're gonna apply for a grant or some type of assistance that's required, right? Yes, sir. That's exactly what's required. So anybody looking to see what's coming next or what [1:18:44, 1:19:04]: What we're going to do, they need to look no farther than this plan right here to understand if we want any financial commitments for other entities or grants that it must be listed in this plan, just like the amphitheater was listed in this plan before it was completed, and several other projects, the East Atlanta Road Project was included, several others that we've included. [1:19:04, 1:19:10]: completed. So thank you. All right. Any other questions for from counsel for Mr. Ryan? [1:19:11, 1:19:31]: Everybody's good. Okay. This is a public hearing. All right. So any comments uh against this particular plan coming from the far my far left? Any comments against the plan coming from my far and from the middle? Any comments against this particular plan? Name the comments from my far right. Any comments for this particular plan? [1:19:31, 1:19:33]: plan in my far left. [1:19:34, 1:19:36]: And forward four this in the middle. [1:19:36, 1:19:40]: All right, comments positive comments in the far right. [1:19:40, 1:19:45]: Okay, ma'am, please come forward. This is uh positive comments for name and address please. [1:19:46, 1:20:06]: Um good evening, uh, Council and Mayor. Uh my name is Jocelyn Williams, 190 Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. Uh, is it any way we can get a copy? It just looks good. I couldn't I'm older, I just couldn't see it. That's that's the only coming. It looks good. I just didn't know if if it's something we could see or if it's something that we can't. [1:20:06, 1:20:14]: But I I'm positive and wanted to just give my comments for it. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Appreciate it. Um, you coming to answer that qu [1:20:14, 1:20:34]: Question there, I believe it's would it be on our website? Yes, we can provide a copy, but usually have to go through the clerk's office, do an open records request. Oh, okay. Yeah, most requests have to be official. Okay, I got you. All right. So I think that's why they're talking right now. So you give it the details for that. Okay. Open records request, and obviously that's I guess that's what you all discussed. Okay. All right. If for no other comments from [1:20:34, 1:20:44]: from the uh from the community then aspect. I'll close that portion. Oh he don't have to that close that portion. And so now I need a emotion uh council to approve this. [1:20:45, 1:20:46]: Well here might [1:20:47, 1:20:58]: So moved. Oh, is there a second? Second. Okay, from Ms. Ganttu, Mr. Alzheimer's all favor, please indicate. Okay, so all good. Every is unanimously seized. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. All right. Okay, see here. [1:21:02, 1:21:22]: Comprehensive Plan Amendment K CP two zero two four-one, Council District five. Consideration of comprehensive plan amendment request to change the future land use designation for a property on north side of uh Hudson Bridge Road, Hudson Bridge Drive, excuse me, comprising a parcel number uh zero three two-one zero. [1:21:22, 1:21:42]: From a medium density mix use to a medium density residential to allow for construction of a townhome development. Applicant at Lenar, Georgia, LLC, Agent Battle Law PC. The property is located in land lot twenty-one of District Six and contains twenty [1:21:42, 1:21:47]: [4913.5, 4915.5]: Sran Farm upalo. [1:22:01, 1:22:03]: Okay. All right. [1:22:03, 1:22:23]: Um mayor. Yes sir. Um I would like to request that you um read the whole thing? Yes, sir. Okay. So I'll go through all the and then we'll have to we have to vote on them on individually. You realize that, right? Yes sir. Okay, so well let me read the next one then. Resulting case RZ-2024-01. Once again, Council District 5. Consideration of request. [1:22:23, 1:22:43]: To rezone property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprising a parcel 032-01026000 from the C2 General Commercial Zoning District to MFR Multifamily Residential Zoning District to allow for the construction of the town home development. The property also lies within a [1:22:43, 1:23:03]: Uh uh PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. Applicant once again Lenard Georgia LLC Agent Battle Law PC. The property is located on land lot 21 of District 6. And it contains 20.367 acres. Once again, Ms. Anderson will give us our details. Next is variants case number VR dash [1:23:03, 1:23:05]: two zero two four dash zero three. [1:23:05, 1:23:06]: Fairness request number one. [1:23:07, 1:23:13]: Council District 5, consideration of variance requests for two variances on a property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive. [1:23:14, 1:23:34]: Comprising of a parcel number 032 that's zero one zero two six zero zero zero to allow for the construction of a town home development. Once again, invariance request number one would reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from required fifty feet to twenty feet. The property also lies within a PMU Parkway Mix Use Overlay District. [1:23:34, 1:23:51]: Applicant Lanier, Georgia, LLC, Agent Battle Law PC. The property is located in Landlock 21, District 6 and contains 20.367 acres. Mr. Anderson will address that as well. [1:23:52, 1:24:12]: Once again, District 5, uh consideration of variance requests for two variances on property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprising process of 032-01026000 to allow for the construction of townhome development. Variance request two would reduce the size of the yard setbacks to the townhome lots between buildings for the required [1:24:11, 1:24:31]: 15 feet to 10 feet. The property also lies within a PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. Applicant Lanaire Georgia LLC Agent Battle Law PC. The property is located on landlock 21 of District 6 and it contains 20.367 acres. Presented once again by Ms. Anison. Okay, Miss Anison. Yours, sir. Please. [1:24:35, 1:24:45]: Uh the case of facts the mayor basically went over this. Uh the den the proposed density for the project is six point eight seven units per acre, twenty um [1:24:45, 1:24:51]: acres in total. Uh the property characteristics is currently vacant land, mostly uh wooded. [1:24:52, 1:25:12]: Uh the current future land use designation is medium density mixed use. Current zoning of the property is C2. Uh the department posted the zoning sign on July 16, 2024. Here's our aerial photo of the site. You can see it's wooded and vacant. Here's a uh aerial photo of the site with the uh [1:25:12, 1:25:13]: Site plan. [1:25:15, 1:25:16]: Okay. [1:25:24, 1:25:29]: Here's a copy of the um of the um of an aerial photo with the site plan in intertwined. [1:25:33, 1:25:35]: There's a street view of the subject property. [1:25:42, 1:25:47]: Here's another angle of the street other street view, other subject property. [1:26:03, 1:26:10]: Here's the overall uh site plan of the of the development. Um [1:26:12, 1:26:27]: The project will be comprised of fee simple town homes, twenty feet w twenty-four feet wide, uh proposed f twenty foot front yard setback and ten feet in between buildings for a total of 127 units at a density of six point eight units per acre. [1:26:32, 1:26:34]: Here's a rendering of the proposed [1:26:37, 1:26:38]: Town Holmes. [1:26:40, 1:26:42]: The elevations, the front elevations. [1:26:47, 1:26:51]: The applicant is requesting to go to medium density residential. [1:26:52, 1:27:00]: Here's a p uh a photo of the um City of Stockbridge future land use map with the surrounding uh land uses. [1:27:02, 1:27:22]: Here's the surrounding land use designation. Property to the north, you got the St. Ives apartments, St. Margaret subdivision. Both of those are high density residential. Property to the south, you got commercial uses fronting on Hudson Bridge Road, including JJ Liquor and Western Union. And also you have the Hudson Bridge Townhomes. Those are [1:27:22, 1:27:42]: Medium density residential and high density residential. Property to the east, you got adjacent uh shopping center, which is medium density uh residential as a land use. And property to the west, you got the Oakwood subdivision and the Oakwood Manor subdivision. Those are medium density residential and [1:27:42, 1:27:45]: Both of them both of them are medium density residential. [1:27:47, 1:28:07]: Uh the surrounding land use uh densities. You got the St. Ives apartments with a density rate of one unit per acre. You got the St. Margaret uh subdivision, fifty-four comprise of fifty-four units with a density rate of three units per acre. You got the Hudson Bridge Townhomes, which comprise of 13 units at a density rate of one unit per acre. [1:28:07, 1:28:25]: And the Oak Village subdivision has 45 units with a density rate of 4.5 units per acre. And you got the Oak Manor, Oakwood Oakwood Manor subdivision with 41 units with a density rate of one unit per acre. And Lanier is proposing 6.87 units per acre. [1:28:30, 1:28:41]: Uh the staff analysis after staff analyzed all the data and and uh materials that s were submitted, uh we find out we've we determined that this project is suitable for their requested um [1:28:42, 1:28:50]: For their request to go to medium density residential. So staff recommend approval for the CP, the comp plan amendment related to this project. [1:28:54, 1:28:56]: Now I'll move I'll move along to the rezoning portion. [1:29:03, 1:29:11]: The applicant, once again, the applicant is uh requesting to be rezoned from C2 to the MFR to allow for development of a townhome community with 140 units. [1:29:13, 1:29:20]: This is a picture of the city of Stockbridge zoning map. You can see that there is related uh zoning districts in the vicinity. [1:29:23, 1:29:26]: Uh here's the Parkway mixed use overlay district map. [1:29:30, 1:29:30]: Um [1:29:32, 1:29:50]: After going through the analysis, the applicant's request to be rezoned to MFR is consistent with the City of Stockbridge comprehensive plan and our staff recommended approval of the rezoning. Now I move along to the variance portion. [1:29:51, 1:29:52]: Oh. [1:29:59, 1:30:03]: Uh the applicant has submitted a request for a variance to reduce [1:30:05, 1:30:17]: The a reduction in the front yard setback of the town home lots in the MFR district from the required fifty feet to twenty feet and to reduce the side yard setbacks, uh the distance between the townhome buildings from the required twenty to ten feet. [1:30:19, 1:30:39]: Uh here's the MFR district setback requirements. It's 50 feet on the front yard, 20 feet on the side yard, and the rear yard 20 feet. The applicant is proposing 20. Uh side yard she's the applicant's proposing 10, and they meet this um the the uh current standards for the rear yard setback. [1:30:42, 1:31:02]: Uh, there are extraordinary and exceptional circumstances pertaining to this particular um property. Um and a literal interpretation of these provisions would deprive the uh applicant of rights. As a result of that, uh staff is recommending approval of both variances to reduce the front yard setback from [1:31:02, 1:31:14]: fifty feet. Instead of um twenty feet, staff is recommending thirty feet. And uh staff recommends the approval of the distance between the building from twenty feet to ten feet. And the applicant is here tonight. [1:31:15, 1:31:21]: Okay, before the applicant comes up, I wanna know Council any rent questions for Mr. Anderson right now. Go ahead, Mr. [1:31:22, 1:31:25]: Uh hold on, Mr Tom, stand by. Queen, Mr. Anside, qua. [1:31:25, 1:31:45]: Yeah, certainly the number uh that uh has been discussed and I think Ms. Bowdo's gonna update. Uh we've been working on this project, um talking about it for nearly a year now. Um there was some initial discussions, I think back in January, even before that, and certainly there have been some discussions on what was appropriate. [1:31:45, 1:32:05]: Appropriate for the community and what is not appropriate for the community. And a lot of feedback in terms of what the community wanted to see and what is actually going to actually go there. Initially the number was as high as 150 plus. That number was, as you see here, was cut down to 140. And now [1:32:05, 1:32:25]: Now the number is 127. So we're 23 down from uh where we started at, which was 150. So in working with it, uh the initial plan called for two car garage, one-car garages, and uh certainly I would was not supportive of that. [1:32:25, 1:32:45]: Two car garages on all the units. All the units now have two car garages as the part was delayed so that the adjustments could be made to the plan to remove all of the one-car garages so that we would have two car garages on all of the units to maintain the value of the area. [1:32:45, 1:33:05]: And to support that. Now, certainly we had some discussions on what was appropriate for it in terms of the community being gated versus being an open community. We had the discussions about the community, about uh traffic and transportation, and the very best. [1:33:05, 1:33:25]: News that we got was there's a$54 million road project that has just commenced. A$54 million road project that will start right there at Walmart where the McDonald's is. It will proceed south as a four-lane road as soon as you cross from the Walmart and [1:33:25, 1:33:28]: In the Bank of America you will be able to go south. [1:33:28, 1:33:47]: uh to directly to Jodico Road. You will be able to go on from there all the way to Jonesboro Road under this new four-lane highway. The state has invested fifty-four million dollars in this project to improve traffic in the area. And what they generally have told us is listen, [1:33:47, 1:33:56]: We understand that y'all have needs for traffic in this particular area. And for us to put fifty-four million dollars there, this is where it all go. [1:33:57, 1:34:17]: We could put it on a two-lane road somewhere else. We could put it um, you know, in a more um you know area that where the infrastructure wasn't there, but when the state steps up and plans to spend fifty-four million dollars uh on a project, and honestly, ideally, if you look at it, if you're a resident living [1:34:17, 1:34:26]: at this particular development, you could basically walk to Walmart because a lot of times these particular projects are approved [1:34:27, 1:34:47]: And Jodeco was kind of proved in the inverse of this, where the rooftops came first. In this situation, the commercial was already built in the Walmart, the Bank of America, you know, you have the Children's Health Care Center already there. So the commercial is already there. So there's no commercial that is actually [1:34:47, 1:35:07]: Included in this. It's all residential. The original zoning was mixed use so that those residents will be able to take advantage of the Walmart or what have you. And what would generally happen is these residents, once the new road is complete, and the new road is supposed to be complete in December of 2026. [1:35:07, 1:35:27]: If you can't see it now from the Hudson Bridge roadside, but there are logging companies out there working right now to remove it. And they removed a bunch like ten tru ten truckloads of log so far in orders for the rud right of way to be moved through there. So these residents, again, once they leave their area, they'll be able to take [1:35:27, 1:35:47]: Take a left, go toward Walmart, go down the hill by Bank of America, go directly to Jodico Road, and continue on to Jonesboro Road without ever getting on I-75. Nobody in here has that type of access currently, but that's what this neighborhood would have. And being [1:35:47, 1:36:07]: Able to access this particular area. But certainly those things are very important in doing what we wanted to do. We had a number of discussions about uh the the amount of brick that would be involved uh in the development. Uh the came forward. There's a lot of push and pull where we talked about. [1:36:07, 1:36:27]: which units will have full side on the brick uh on the units so that that that the the appearance and the value would be upheld and then uh subsequently there was a there was uh a proposal for them to add brick to the side uh of the units uh as well so certainly I just wanted to give [1:36:27, 1:36:47]: Get that out there and let everybody know, honestly, these there's been so many discussions that have gone on along this period of time to make sure that whatever we proposed and whatever was presented was actually something that would be befitting of the community. Because this product that you see. [1:36:47, 1:37:07]: See displayed right here. This wasn't the original product. And I know, and I'm gonna tell you all out there who I it really disappoints me that one of the neighbors put out a rendering of a neighborhood that had no connection with this. It was never good, the picture that you [1:37:06, 1:37:26]: You saw on next door was never even proposed, but it was presented to you as what the neighborhood would look like. We talked and discussed what the neighborhood would look like, and this is what the neighborhood will look like right here with these town homes, with the with the overhangs on them, with porches on them. Um [1:37:26, 1:37:46]: with a nut with uh with the brick and then as miss Gantt says she likes to have that variation so you can have some options of having a craftsman style home so there's some flexibility there uh as well so those are uh what I wanted to do because there's been some public um comments back to [1:37:46, 1:38:03]: to me about what the public wanted to see and it's a conc concern about uh the traffic and the infrastructure over there. But certainly uh the news is good with the state fending fifty four million dollars on a brand new highway uh to go through this area. Thank you. Okay. [1:38:03, 1:38:23]: Mr. Thomas, sir. Yes. Mr. Anderson. Yes, sir. Uh my concern is with setbacks. And I've been wanting to ask this question um before. And then I notice here uh it is a request for the front yard setback. Yes, sir. The backyard setback. No, not the rear yard, just [1:38:23, 1:38:41]: the front yard and the distance in between buildings. Okay. So the they're they're asking for a they were originally asking for a a 30 foot reduction in the front yard setback, but they have agreed to uh a 30 foot front yard setback in the updated site plan. [1:38:41, 1:39:01]: So with with setbacks, I'm looking well, give me your I guess reasoning and future uh reasoning for setbacks when originally we had set it at 50 and it seems that most of these requests are coming in now is to it's to set [1:39:01, 1:39:21]: So just give me uh uh first philosophy. Uh yes, sir. Um behind this. Yes, sir. Um when the when the unified development code was um uh adopted in March of uh twenty twenty two, it had uh a s front yard setback requirement in the MFR district of fifty feet. Uh [1:39:21, 1:39:23]: However, um [1:39:25, 1:39:36]: past few years we have um come to discover that most jurisdictions has have a front yard setback of twenty five feet. Okay. So um we'll be coming forward um to counsel [1:39:36, 1:39:40]: In the next couple of weeks to finalize our new MFR standards. [1:39:40, 1:39:44]: We're we're updating that section in the unified development code and we'll be um [1:39:45, 1:39:58]: stating that the city of Stock we'll recommend that the City of Stockbridge has the thirty foot front yard setback. But uh in a survey of all the surrounding communities and jurisdiction, we found that most places have a twenty five foot front yard setback for town homes. [1:39:58, 1:40:08]: So that's why um in in the past the council has approved um a reduction to thirty feet. So we're trying to be consistent with our recommendation. [1:40:09, 1:40:27]: So once these changes are made with the unified development code, these requests then will not be coming Yeah, it will significantly reduce the amount of requests as it relates to front yard setbacks. We will be uh keeping with the n national standards and uh best practices, best practices as it relates to front yard setbacks. [1:40:28, 1:40:30]: Thank you. All right. [1:40:30, 1:40:50]: Any questions, sir? Uh Ms. Gantt? No question. Okay. You you have something else to do? Yeah, I just wanted to add this. Councilman, I'm fully on board with what you just said, pretty much, and I'm on board with what the staff recommendation is. That's the standard that we have set here in the community. So certainly that's the staff recommendation as well. Yes, sir. That that we [1:40:50, 1:41:10]: go with third because that's what we've been doing. So certainly I think you all have made it clear that that's what we wanted. So that's certainly a there a pri they are are or allowed to ask, but certainly that's what we've um generally settled upon in almost every development that we've approved, right? Thank you for that. Thank you. Ms. Battle, please [1:41:10, 1:41:20]: Please. Join Mr. Anderson and uh I don't know if you I don't know if you have any more of our presentation or something you wanna lay out for the rest of myself and the rest of the council. [1:41:20, 1:41:29]: I'm sorry, I went to the wrong Anyway. I do have a presentation. Okay. And uh let me see if I can get back to mine. There we go. I think we're good. [1:41:40, 1:42:00]: Good evening, Michelle Battle with Battle Law, 3562, Habersham at North Lake, Tupper, Georgia, 30084. Um glad to be here before you all this evening, representing Lenar. I'll try not to be too redundant. Um we are seeking the future land use amendment from medium distantly mixed use. [1:42:00, 1:42:11]: to medium density residential. And the purpose of that is because our project, while a part of a larger mixed-use development, is a single parcel. Oops. [1:42:11, 1:42:31]: Sorry, right there. Let me try that again. Michelle Battle with Battle Law, 3562, Haversham at North Lake Tucker, Georgia. Um, we are seeking a future land use amendment from medium density um mixed use to medium density residential. That is really fueled by the fact that the medium density mixed use designation um [1:42:31, 1:42:51]: Requires a mixture of uses from our perspective. This is a single parcel that we are seeking to develop for residential that's within an area that already has the mixed use component to it. So by making that change, we are allowed to do the development and rezone to MFR. Also the [1:42:51, 1:43:11]: This property is already indicated is in the parkway overlay is within the overlay district and the MFR district is consistent with that overlay as well. The rezoning we are seeking is from general commercial to multifamily, and it's already been discussed about the two variances that we are adding. [1:43:11, 1:43:31]: Asking for. Certainly we feel that the 50-foot, as staff has already indicated, is not standard. Much more typical for a single-family detached home. These units will be closer into the street. However, we'll still maintain sufficient distance to allow for the two cars in the [1:43:31, 1:43:51]: garage as well as two cars in the parking pad in front without any um car or um SUV overhanging into um the right-of-way. And so I think that that's the main thing is that you don't want cars hanging into the right-of-way and we will still be able to achieve that um with the 30-foot um setback [1:43:51, 1:44:11]: versus a 20-foot. And then the variance to reduce the side yard setback from five feet to 10 feet was also proposed. When we look at the site, we are adjacent and kind of smashed between single family detached residentials, some multifamily north of us. [1:44:11, 1:44:31]: And to the, actually that's to the east of us. And north of us is technically the Walmart facility. Along with Taco Bell on one side. We've got a liquor store across the street on the other side. We've got a strip center that is located north of the site. [1:44:31, 1:44:46]: as well. And we can see here on the zoning map where it's currently zone C2, while there is MFR certainly already in the area and immediately adjacent to us on the north side. [1:44:47, 1:45:07]: The property immediately um I I'll say to the left on the site plan, um those properties are actually located in unincorporated uh Henry County. Um so we are really kind of the last parcel on this side um with um being adjacent to unincorporated um Henry County. [1:45:07, 1:45:07]: Mm-hmm. [1:45:08, 1:45:28]: When we look at the site, the subject property is kind of a part of what had been an originally conceived 72.69 acre planned commercial retail residential project, which was being developed by multiple owners. Hudson Bridge Drive is a private street which provides shared access. [1:45:28, 1:45:48]: To over 20 stores, including the following businesses: QT, Walmart, Chipotle, JNJ Liquor, Taco Bell, Zaxby's, Murphy's Gas Station, Mellow Mushroom, Arby's Discount Tire, and Bank of America. In 2004, the 22.076 acres was owned that we're looking at was owned by the Baptist Red. [1:45:48, 1:46:08]: Retirement communities of Georgia and along with the adjacent 9.67 acres that has been developed as a commercial retail plaza. As part of that development, at that time, the Baptist retirement communities had actually agreed to place a restrictive covenant on this property, which prohibited it from [1:46:08, 1:46:28]: From even being developed for any type of retail purposes, despite the fact that it was zoned C2. But the residential apartments were never developed. That particular restriction did go away, but it gives you some sense that this was always intended to be a space for some type of residential development. [1:46:28, 1:46:48]: And that initially it was kind of conceived it would be apartments. And when you look at the overlay district, that allows currently up to 45 units per acre under the overlay district, all the way up to 60, depending upon how many amenities and other things that you use. [1:46:48, 1:47:08]: Nowhere close to that, being at under seven units per acre. We have not even attempted to reach that level of density. I will say that I had another client that had been interested in this property where we commenced with an application. They did want to do a multifamily project. Commissioner [1:47:08, 1:47:23]: uh council member alexander asked them to um s consider adding a fee simple component with some townhomes. Um fortunately they were not able to make that project work and so they elected to withdraw their application and since that time Lenar has picked up the ball. [1:47:23, 1:47:43]: Um with the proposed project. When we first came before you, we were looking at the project at a hundred over 140 units on the site, all townhomes. However, there were single-family, sorry, there were one car garage and two car garage units. We have since, after um meeting with the commissioner, changed to [1:47:43, 1:48:03]: The current updated site plan, which was shown by staff. Um, where we come in off of Hudson Bridge Drive, there will be an amenity area off to the right where we will have uh a swimming pool and clubhouse. Um, also the mail kiosk will be over in that area, and we will also have um some guests. [1:48:03, 1:48:23]: parking within that space. As you come into the community, when you get down a little bit further to the left, you'll be able to make that turn and in kind of a partial cul-de-sac, there will be a playground that will be located there, kind of a pocket park with a few parking spaces as well. [1:48:23, 1:48:43]: in front of that area. And then as you continue around, there's also a secondary pocket park area with some more additional parking that will be open space that will allow for community play and recreation. We do have access onto the adjacent community [1:48:43, 1:49:03]: Community. We're fine with whether that's a full service access or if it were more appropriate to have that as some type of gated access with a Knox box if you didn't want to have direct contact into that adjacent community. We believe, however, that having that point. [1:49:03, 1:49:23]: point of access would allow residents over there to be able to access the Walmart and other spaces without having to come back out onto Hudson Bridge Road and then come back around past um the QT and go through. So it would be a much better access point to allow for that. [1:49:23, 1:49:25]: level of connectivity. [1:49:26, 1:49:46]: Um one of the things that was discussed was um brick, and brick was very important um to Councilmember Alexander. Um we have arrived, we believe, at what we hope is a compromise position um in which we will have five units that will have brick sides for units one, fifty-six, fifty-seven. [1:49:46, 1:50:06]: 189 and 127. Those would basically be those units that are visible from the street, both from Hudson Bridge and then from the side street off into the Oak, I can't want to say Oakville, but I don't think that's what it is, manor subdivision that's adjacent. So we would have [1:50:06, 1:50:26]: Um, all brick on those sides, and the balance of those units would have a brick water table that would be no less than six feet in height, is what we are proposing. The original water table would have been somewhere around two feet. We have increased that um by three times the amount up to six feet so that you have a nice um facade in between. [1:50:26, 1:50:46]: Between the units, but again, those units that face the public right-of-way would be all brick on the side. Again, we are looking at 127 units 24 feet wide. These units will be roughly 800-1,800 um square feet up to [1:50:46, 1:50:57]: to about 2,000 um square feet in size with both uh three and potentially four bedroom units um that will all be for sale units. [1:50:58, 1:51:18]: This gives you an idea of the green space that's on this site. One of the things that you might notice, and I'm going to go back a little bit, is that our site plan has a stream located on the north side of the site. And so you've got a tremendous amount of green space that will be left in place that kind of buffers up. [1:51:18, 1:51:32]: us from the um businesses that are located um adjacent within that um subdivision. I think I have more time because we had three applications that we took at one time. Yes ma'am, thank you. [1:51:35, 1:51:55]: Um these are the facades um that we proposed. Um Lennar came back after comments from Councilmember Alexander and revamped um what was originally proposed. You can see here that we have more gr decorative garages that um will be different colors that kind of blend in with the facades of the homes. Um [1:51:55, 1:52:15]: In terms of the different architectural features, we are allowing for architectural accents, which you see more up around the roof line of the property. Additionally, this doesn't show the brickwater table or up to the six feet on the sides, but that again is something that we are. [1:52:15, 1:52:17]: are um proposing and have agreed to do. [1:52:19, 1:52:22]: I do have a video, so I'm gonna let that play. [1:52:24, 1:52:26]: To give you an idea of the project. [1:52:35, 1:52:55]: And I think you will see as we are moving through, we are holding to the standard with regards to the different looks. We think it's a very clean, upscale look for the area, particularly when we look at some of the other townhome communities that are located, no disrespect, but we think that this will be one of the [1:52:55, 1:53:06]: prime ones in this area, um in the immediately surrounding area of the site and looking at all the things, wonderful things that are happening along uh this side of Stockbridge. [1:53:09, 1:53:18]: This is the area um where we would have the gazebo um not the gazebo, sorry, the clubhouse and the pool areas in the male kiosk. [1:53:20, 1:53:21]: This is the swimming pool area. [1:53:24, 1:53:44]: And all of this open space area will be maintained by the HOA. There will be a mandatory HOA with mandatory homeowner assessment dues. They will be required to pay those dues in connection with the maintenance and upkeep of the surrounding of the area. [1:53:43, 1:54:03]: And one of the things that staff, and we'll go over this, but there was a request with regards to it being a gated community. We are actually opposed to it being a gated community for a couple of reasons. Number one, having a gated community means that all of the streets that are located within this community would have to be private streets. [1:54:03, 1:54:23]: By having them as private streets, that means that these homeowners will be responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of those roadways. And quite honestly, with only 127 units, they already will have three different separate amenity areas, including the pool that they will have to take care of and maintain, along with the clubhouse, along with the playground. [1:54:23, 1:54:43]: Ground area and the other open space, all of that will be wrapped into their annual, potentially monthly dues that they will have to pay on the site, rolling in additional costs for the maintenance and upkeep of those roads, along with the detention ponds, mind you, because they will also have to maintain those. [1:54:43, 1:55:03]: We feel we'll place um when you look at the overall cost for these units, which we believe will be in the high threes to low fours, based on um the amount of brick and other amenities within the community. Um we believe that that's around where the price points um will land. Um and that's assuming [1:55:03, 1:55:23]: In the next two years, it could be much higher than that. We are very concerned about adding too much burden onto this community, and I think it also blocks off the ability of the adjacent community to be able to come through the site and make it over to the Walmart and the other stores without having to come back and add more traffic. [1:55:23, 1:55:30]: Traffic onto um Hudson Bridge Road. So or yeah, Hudson Hudson Bridge. [1:55:30, 1:55:31]: Boulevard. [1:55:31, 1:55:51]: Sorry, Hudson Bridge. I'm just gonna call it Hudson Bridge. One's drive and I think the other's road. So without having those cars having to come back out on the Hudson Bridge, they would be able to make that connection. Um they could walk through the community because there will be sidewalks. So that would allow for walkability as well as reducing cars back out on the main thoroughfare in order to get into [1:55:51, 1:56:11]: To the Walmart and the other uses that are there. We are consistent with the request to have 10-foot sidewalks along Hudson Bridge Road. We did want to note that there is actually a stream, as we indicated previously, on the property, and as a result of that, there is about a 10-foot [1:56:11, 1:56:31]: 10-foot drop at a certain portion of the property into the site, which makes it very difficult to have a 10-foot sidewalk along the entirety. So we're asking to go ahead and place that 10-foot sidewalk up to the spaces where you have the significant drop-off because at that point we would be required to put in significant retaining. [1:56:31, 1:56:36]: walls in order to ensure the safety of folks being able to walk around there. [1:56:36, 1:56:56]: I can tell you that that area that I'm showing here shows that drop off. It's actually roughly more like 20 feet from where the current sidewalk is dropping down. But that's only really kind of at the intersection where you're entering into the adjacent commercial component. So a significant [1:56:56, 1:57:16]: Portion of the frontage along this property will have 10-foot sidewalks as proposed. With regards to the staff's conditions, I just want to run through those. There are a couple that we would ask for modifications. Number one, in section 2A, the to add the last revised date of September 26, 2024. [1:57:16, 1:57:36]: for the site plan, which shows the 24 lots with the two-car garages. Currently the staff recommendation makes reference to the plan from February. So we want to make sure that we are referencing the correct site plan. We would like to delete the gated community requirement. I've already provided my rationale [1:57:36, 1:57:56]: Why we feel like that is more appropriate. Um one staff also in 2D um requested eight foot sidewalks. We are asking for them to be five foot sidewalks. That is what is standard. Um and um the eight-foot is more for a pure mixed-use development. Um we don't believe that that is what we are, and therefore [1:57:56, 1:58:16]: Or under the code, the five-foot requirement should prevail. That also plays into why we asked for 2e, where it says that there will be an eight-foot multi-use path in the interior of the community, that we would remove that, and that the amenities will be a pool, clubhouse, a pocket park with a playground. [1:58:16, 1:58:36]: Ground and one pocket park with just open space. Then there was 3A and B. In 3A and B, there's reference to the one-car garage units and the percentage of the units that can be one-car garage. We would ask for that to be deleted and instead replace that there will be a two-car garage with [1:58:36, 1:58:50]: brick fronts with hardy plank or other fiber cementace accents, a six-foot brick water table on the sides, except that units 1, 56, 57, 89, and 127 shall have a full brick side. [1:58:50, 1:58:53]: And then finally the external sidewalk along the development [1:58:53, 1:58:56]: property line shall be ten feet up to where [1:58:56, 1:58:58]: The topo requires a retaining wall. [1:58:58, 1:59:03]: So um otherwise we are comfortable with the recommendations made by staff. [1:59:03, 1:59:23]: And we appreciate all the work and effort. Um, Councilmember Alexander and I have been around and around. He probably got real tired of me and a little testy with me the other day because I was being uh a zealous advocate for my client, but I also understand what his objective is um in terms of bringing quality development um into the city of Stockbury. [1:59:23, 1:59:38]: Bridge and certainly within his district. And so I have great great respect for that. And uh as we continue to try and do our job out here, um, we try to do our best to um meet you where you are, um, even though sometimes I can't give it all, but I hope that this is close enough. So thank you. [1:59:38, 1:59:52]: Thank you for your presentation. Um I would imagine please don't go anywhere'cause we have some pretty sure we have some questions. So Mr. Alexander, you wanna continue on, sir? You kept some thoughts? Yeah, let me just say this. Uh I appreciate it. We've been battling it out. [1:59:52, 2:00:12]: Miss Battle. Absolutely. We've been doing that. And trying to figure out how this was gonna work, uh, in terms of getting what the city wanted and getting what we wanted, what you want or your client wanted. Certainly affordability did come into the equation in terms of what we wanted in in the final product uh of the [2:00:12, 2:00:32]: this particular development. Um I certainly uh in terms of uh these initial requests certainly we had many discussions about the community being gated and certainly that was something that I was desirous of and the community was desirous of uh and just uh with some of the comments that had come [2:00:32, 2:00:52]: Forward. Um in terms of the sidewalk itself, again, 10 foot along the frontage up until the stream being required. Certainly, uh staff has recommended made some good recommendations here, and certainly we're trying to go along that destination of having uh multiple. [2:00:52, 2:01:12]: to use paths as far as possible and with the exception of now that you're asking for the stream uh situation then um you know the the path is is appropriate because you're getting a reduction in how much 10 foot path that you have to do. Certainly with [2:01:12, 2:01:32]: We went round and round on three A and three B, and I think this is the appropriate solution in that these units one fifty six, fifty-seven, eighty-nine, and one twenty-seven will have a hundred percent brick uh on the side, and then there will be a water table that was initially a small water table. I think we had to see. [2:01:32, 2:01:52]: having she said six foot here, I think we had discussed having about half of it be um be uh uh uh uh we you say six foot here, I think we had discussed half of it being um the water table extending up to half. So whatever that six feet is between where we were in [2:01:52, 2:02:12]: uh with this right here. But certainly you said around six feet. So certainly we'll be able to, staff will be able to work through this and come to a resolution with uh with uh with uh with what is appropriate uh on the building ab uh six around six feet and above. So we'll go there. [2:02:12, 2:02:32]: I I I approve of the development because I think that it will be beneficial to the entire area and I think it raises the quality of the area. And what is the price point again for these particular units? They'll be in the high threes and low fours. Okay, three fifth three. [2:02:32, 2:02:37]: fifty uh in in in around the area. And the square footage was eighteen hundred to [2:02:38, 2:02:39]: A little over two thousand. [2:02:39, 2:02:59]: Right. And so that's a qu when my desire always in these projects has been to have a single family, a both of these are single family, which is a town home and detach, is that when you walk inside these units, you will not be able to tell the difference between it and a single family detached home. [2:02:59, 2:03:19]: Because it at 1,800 to 2,000 square feet, they're larger than a lot of single family homes, which are 1,500 to 18 to 1,800. So the difference here being is that you will have uh again a very nice drawn-out development in terms of uh what what all is [2:03:19, 2:03:33]: presented and then the package put together will be a very desired neighborhood with which to call home. Those are my comments. Okay. Council, any other questions that you may have for uh Miss Battle at all? [2:03:35, 2:03:41]: Okay. And what do I understand from you then Mr. Alexander, these staff conditions seem to be a all right with you at this point? [2:03:41, 2:04:01]: The staff conditions are pretty much uh what we wanted to go with here in terms of and then as again we had actually discussed okay amongst ourselves having the community be gated. All right. Oh I understand so uh public hearing. So anybody on my far left with comments uh that they don't like particular [2:04:01, 2:04:09]: staff conditions or this this community be built. Uh disagree with anything that's happening. On the on far left, in the middle. [2:04:10, 2:04:17]: A far right. These are com okay, ma'am, these are comments uh that are not in agreement with this. Okay. Give your name and address, please. [2:04:17, 2:04:37]: Um good evening. My name is uh Jocelyn Williams, 190 Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. For the last hour I've been uh amazed and so grateful for um this wonderful presentation by Miss Battle. Um I'm in complete opposition to it because I live in the area and there are [2:04:37, 2:04:57]: Over 100 businesses in the last three traffic lights that I go to this weekend. When I went to this weekend starting at Wendy's, I mean uh at Ms. uh Popeye's turning left going down uh Hudson Bridge Road and trying to go into QT, Bank of America, took me about [2:04:57, 2:05:17]: Fifteen minutes. I know we have to build. I know things will come. I'm just standing in opposition with five thousand other people that can't come. Uh I know you're gonna vote tonight, but I just wanted to let you know that I'm in opposition. The infrastructure is tiny as we keep building beautiful things around, but there's just not any room. [2:05:17, 2:05:30]: So I'm asking the council if you can just to hear the voices of the people in the community if you can. And thank you for your counsel. Once again, the beautiful presentation to Miss Bowell. Excellent presentation. Thank you. [2:05:30, 2:05:38]: Thank you. Okay, if there are no other comments uh uh against this or negative and aspect any comments for from my far left. Comments for this development. [2:05:38, 2:05:40]: In a million comments four. [2:05:41, 2:05:43]: Okay, my far right. Any comments four? [2:05:43, 2:05:46]: Okay, so on that note that I'll close out that portion. [2:05:47, 2:05:52]: Um Miss Battle and Ryan, b back up for a second. Traffic issues and concerns. How can you address that? [2:05:54, 2:06:04]: Traffic conditions. Yeah, just out of curiosity, traffic issues and concerns it concern that was mentioned here. Yeah, Miss uh the the applicant addressed uh most of the con traffic concerns about um [2:06:05, 2:06:08]: Uh changing their entryway to to being off of Hudson Bridge Road. [2:06:08, 2:06:23]: Okay. So that address most of the c concerns and also if we eliminate the um the gate, it would keep people from queuing in the streets and uh causing a backup. Um so we think that would be another remedy to uh alleviate the traffic concerns. [2:06:24, 2:06:43]: Okay. And I also um we need to um get the uh specific conditions down so when we make the uh motion we'll have it in the record. Okay. So there's some standard things that um that the um department requires along with um [2:06:44, 2:06:46]: Like flock cameras and um [2:06:48, 2:06:55]: the certain type of lights, street lights, black lights and things of that nature. So we want to make sure that we capture all that in the um [2:06:55, 2:06:56]: And the final version of [2:06:57, 2:07:00]: the conditions that will be associated with this. [2:07:00, 2:07:20]: Well, as I read through each one, it's four four we have to take four votes tonight. So as I read through go through each of that, all right, we'll see what the conditions are just uh associated with the rezoning. Everything else is just straight up approval. Recommended approval. Okay, rezoning okay, so that okay. Well the rezoning piece you're referring to, that's the second that'd be second vote then. Yes, sir. Right. All right. [2:07:20, 2:07:40]: Yes, sir. Let me say this again. As the the presentation and the discussion, I it may it merits sense that we might not want to gate the community because of the connectivity uh and the walkability uh through the community. Uh and um again [2:07:40, 2:08:00]: And having the gate open and close might actually impact the traffic in the area. So I think that would be a a general compound, but we're gonna insist, since it's gonna be walkable, that we do have the the trail that runs through the community. Uh the staff had recommended that that that we [2:08:00, 2:08:02]: We have a multi use trail through the community. [2:08:04, 2:08:24]: Let me double check double check. There was a comment that there was to be a walking trail. I don't know if that was supposed to be along the um the creek, although I would not be putting folks back there behind. Right, but if people are accessing and walking through the community, it would be good for them to be able to ride their bike through the community. [2:08:24, 2:08:44]: And for the residents to be able to ride their bike, they can't do that on a five-foot sidewalk. Go back to put the conditions back up there. They were already up there. Okay. I'd like to point out on the site plan itself that one of the challenges that we have is that we can't push back out the street widths that we [2:08:44, 2:09:04]: Are required to have if we're gonna put in eight foot sidewalks, we're gonna have to be able to push these units um back along with the fact that we are we had asked for the 20-foot setback, now we're at 30 feet. Well, what I'm saying is that we only need it on one side, we won't need it on both sides. Okay, just like through that main spine road there that's coming from the oak. [2:09:03, 2:09:16]: wood subdivision up until the uh the main entrance it would be one side would be eight foot and the other side would be the stri strategic five foot. So one side would be eight foot and the s other side would be five foot. Right. Okay. [2:09:17, 2:09:17]: All right. [2:09:19, 2:09:20]: Right. [2:09:24, 2:09:31]: So it seems like, um, just pointing out it would seem to me that would make sense if we did the sidewalk on this side. [2:09:32, 2:09:33]: Okay. [2:09:33, 2:09:40]: Okay, the only other thing that I think I have mentioned to you is that uh uh you s put the rendering back up there again. Okay. [2:09:42, 2:09:58]: is that those overhangs which are over the garage, instead of being the traditional uh shingles, that those would be metal roof versus having uh a shingled roof right there for the attractiveness and just the overall look. [2:10:02, 2:10:11]: What can I say right now? Um, you know, we went back and forth about that, but um I'm I don't have anybody here to say yes or no, so I guess I'll just acquiesce. [2:10:12, 2:10:16]: Thank you, I appreciate that. So yes, you're agreeing to that, is that what you're saying? [2:10:16, 2:10:18]: I don't think he's giving me much choice. [2:10:19, 2:10:20]: So thank you. [2:10:20, 2:10:27]: It it'll look very sharp there and it'll be something that we we actually that's gonna be one of the changes that we're making, right, Mr. Anderson? [2:10:28, 2:10:48]: Right. And one of the I mean the text amendment that we're working on. And the brick on the ends. Brick on the end. Right. We got that, we got the items that are in there. Put the conditions back up there. Number one, we got the buildings that are gonna have full brick on the side. And that would be building number 156, 57, 89, 127, what? [2:10:48, 2:11:08]: Have a hundred percent brick on the side. The rest of them will have the water table, which is a six foot uh water table on the side of brick going up to six foot high on the side. But these main buildings that will be visible from both entrances will have a hundred percent brick uh on the side. And again, we reduce the units right now that. [2:11:08, 2:11:17]: That um the um the density number will go down that you went from one forty down to one twenty seven. That original density number was basically What it was over seven. [2:11:18, 2:11:24]: Right, it was six point eight seven, but now with a hundred and twenty seven that'll go down. Yeah, and we'll condition on the site plan. [2:11:24, 2:11:38]: Absolutely. Okay, well that th I think we're that's that's what's agreeable. Uh and it seems to me two D then should change the eight foot sidewalk requirement to five foot on one side and eight foot on the other. [2:11:39, 2:11:54]: So we've had And then it will be ten foot along the frontage up to the screen. Correct. And I I put that in number four. And and I followed the um actual conditions, so two A, B, D. So that way you can follow it. [2:11:54, 2:11:58]: You got these jotted down, sir, so we can read'em. Okay. [2:11:58, 2:12:18]: So I'm gonna go through this process and those are those adjustments that have to be made after I read this process here to make sure we're added in properly. All right, so let's start this. Once again, comprehensive plan amendment, KCP-2024-01, Council District 5. Consideration of comprehensive plan amendment request to change the future land use. [2:12:18, 2:12:38]: Designation on the property on north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprising parcel 032-0102-6000 from a medium density mixed use to a medium density residential to allow for construction of townhome development. Applicant Leonard, Georgia LLC, Agent Battle Law. [2:12:38, 2:12:50]: L PC property is located on land lot twenty-one of the district six and it contains twenty point three seven three six seven acres. Okay. Now is there a motion to accept this as well? [2:12:51, 2:12:53]: So move. Is there a second? [2:12:53, 2:12:56]: I second. Mr Mr. Berry, I second that. [2:12:57, 2:12:59]: All on favor, please indicate. [2:13:00, 2:13:01]: Nice decision on that note. [2:13:02, 2:13:02]: Okay. [2:13:03, 2:13:23]: That's that passes. Rezoning case RZ-2024-01. Council District 5. Consideration and request to rezone property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive comprising a parcel that's 032-01-02600 from the C2 General Commercial Zoning District of N. [2:13:23, 2:13:43]: MFR multifamily, excuse me, multifamily residential zoning to zoning district to allow for the construction of a townhome development. The property also lies within a PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District, Applicant Lenaire, Lenar, Georgia, LLC, Agent, Paddle Law, PC. The property is located on landlock 21. [2:13:42, 2:13:54]: district six and contains twenty point three six seven acres. Once again I need a motion to accept this proposal. Okay. Would you read the conditions, Mr Anderson? [2:14:08, 2:14:19]: Make sure we can hear you, Mr. Anderson. Uh uh first condition will be a revised uh the the result of the the cycle that does the results be [2:14:20, 2:14:30]: Condition of a revised site plan of September twenty-sixth, twenty twenty four for the site plan showing all twenty-four foot lots with two car garages. [2:14:30, 2:14:31]: Um [2:14:33, 2:14:53]: There will be an eight-foot sidewalk with a barn on one side and a five-foot sidewalk on the other side. Um external sidewalk along the development property line should be 10-foot up to where the topo requires a retained wall. There'll be a level roof overhang over the garage, of course, block cameras at the entry. [2:14:53, 2:14:57]: It's uh black bowl lights. [2:15:00, 2:15:00]: Yeah. [2:15:05, 2:15:17]: Front elevation shall be brick. Um facing the public right of way buildings 156 156 5789 and 127 shall be all brick on the side. [2:15:18, 2:15:19]: Okay. [2:15:20, 2:15:20]: Your own. [2:15:24, 2:15:29]: Water table. The water table up to six foot on the rest of the buildings, yeah. [2:15:31, 2:15:44]: It's in the it's it's written down there. Brick water six foot brick water table on the sides except one fifty six, fifty seven, eighty nine, one twenty seven shall have full brick sides on them. So move. [2:15:44, 2:15:47]: Is there a second? I'm sorry. [2:15:47, 2:15:50]: Yeah, flock camera. So the mandatory HOA is that part of [2:15:51, 2:15:57]: It's in the code. Okay. Reduced to a hundred and twenty seven units. I didn't hear him say that. [2:16:00, 2:16:00]: Thank you. [2:16:01, 2:16:07]: And the thirty foot setback. I didn't hear that. [2:16:07, 2:16:11]: That's coming next. Oh I'm sorry, that's on the big That's next, yes, that's next. [2:16:11, 2:16:14]: And that they were going to be all four sale units. [2:16:16, 2:16:22]: That's in the code, right? Owner occupied. That's in the code. Owner occupied is in the code now, right? [2:16:24, 2:16:28]: Right. Is there a ten percent rental cap an easy? It's in the coding. [2:16:29, 2:16:30]: I'm just stuck anywhere. [2:16:31, 2:16:34]: All right, so m motion was made, you got the corrections on that. [2:16:35, 2:16:40]: Yes, sir. Did you say the metal roof? Uh metal roof overhang over the ports and garage. [2:16:44, 2:16:44]: Block himself. [2:16:45, 2:16:46]: Yeah, flying. [2:16:48, 2:16:49]: Light pose. [2:16:49, 2:16:51]: All right, thank you. [2:16:53, 2:17:10]: Okay, Ms. As I made a motion, so move that. That was Ms. Gantt, you second that? I do. Ms. Gantt second that. If there's no further discussion, all in favor please indicate. Okay. It passes unanimously on that note. Okay, now for the variance case R V two Zero Two Four Zero Three, Variance Request Number One. [2:17:11, 2:17:18]: Council District five consideration of variance request for two variables on a property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive comprising a parcel number [2:17:19, 2:17:39]: zero three two dash zero one zero two six zero zero zero to allow for construction of the town home development variance number request number one will reduce the front yard setbacks of the town home lots from required fifty feet to twenty feet. The property also lies within a PMU parkway mixed use overlay district applicant liner uh [2:17:39, 2:17:49]: Georgia LLC, Agent Battle Law, PC with the property is located in landlock twenty one of District Six and contains twenty point three six seven acres. Sir motion to accept this, please. [2:17:52, 2:18:10]: That the the we wanted the setback to be thirty feet on the front. I'm reading it. That's fine. You can make a motion to adjust that. Your motion would be to adjust whatever you need. Right, thirty feet uh on the front setback and the staff recommendation uh on the side setbacks. [2:18:10, 2:18:12]: Okay. Is there a second that motion? [2:18:12, 2:18:13]: I second. [2:18:13, 2:18:33]: All right, our favorite please indicate. Okay, so you now have to say on that. Okay. All right, next uh variance case of RV two zero two three, excuse me, two zero two four-zero three. Variance request number two, council district five. Consideration of variance requests for two variances on a property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprised on parcel zero. [2:18:33, 2:18:53]: That's zero one zero two six zero zero zero to allow for the construction of townhome development. Variance request number two would reduce the side of the yard setbacks of the townhome lots between buildings from require fifteen feet to ten feet. The property also lies within a PMU parkway mixed use overlay district. Applicant Lanier [2:18:53, 2:19:03]: Georgia LLC, Agent Banel Law, PC, properties located landlock twenty one of District Six and contains twenty point three six seven acres. I need a motion to accept this, please. [2:19:04, 2:19:15]: Sumo. Is there a second? Second. Ms. Berry Mr. Berry second that. No further discussion, all favor please indicate. Okay, you name this hidden. Thank you very much. Thank you. [2:19:16, 2:19:17]: Thank you, Ms. Battle. [2:19:18, 2:19:38]: Now I'm glad you is smiling. That's good. Okay. Announcement of upcoming meeting events. Upcoming meeting announcements. Council meetings will be held in city council chambers. Meeting dates, location, and times are subject to change. So contact city hall offices 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.stop. [2:19:38, 2:19:58]: Bridge. Stockbridge G A.org for updates. The Downtown Development Authority meeting is third Tuesday of each month. Stockbridge Downtown Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, which is October 15th. Uh Council Advisory Committee meeting is 6:30 p.m. third Tuesday of each month. Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, October 15th. [2:19:58, 2:20:06]: 15th. The Planning Commission meeting is a third Thursday of each month, 6 30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, October 17th. [2:20:06, 2:20:18]: The community community meeting to discuss the Stockbridge Trails Plan on Wednesday, October twenty-third, from six p.m. to seven thirty p.m. at downtown Stockbridge Connection Center. Um, and that's October twenty-third. [2:20:19, 2:20:31]: I have here the community homestead exemption town hall. I have here Saturday, September twenty sixth at eleven A. M. the city house council chambers. Now that's the twenty sixth. Is that uh that is c accurate on that? [2:20:32, 2:20:38]: I've been told it's being changed to a virtual meeting. Is that correct? Same time, but virtual. [2:20:40, 2:20:43]: A virtual meeting instead on the same time of september twentieth or sixth. [2:20:44, 2:21:04]: That's what was announced at the last town. Okay, thank you. So be it. City Council work session meeting last Tuesday of each month at six P.M. City Council uh chambers, October twenty-ninth. Youth council meeting first Monday of each month at six thirty P. M. City Hall Levi Meeting Room on November fourth. Election day is Tuesday, November fifth. [2:21:03, 2:21:11]: at seven PM for seven AM visit uh MVP.sos.ga dot gov for your polling location. [2:21:13, 2:21:33]: Community zoning and informational meeting Wednesday, November 6th, 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, November 6th. Starbury's Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting, first Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. at the Stockbridge Police Community Room, 4545 North Henry Boulevard, November 7th. The Main Street Advisory Board Meeting. [2:21:33, 2:21:52]: on the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. location Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, which is November 8th. City Council meeting, which is a special date, Tuesday, November 12th, at 6 p.m. in the City Council Chamber. And it's November 12th because Veterans Day is on the holiday, which is the 11th day before. [2:21:53, 2:22:00]: Citywide Development Authority meeting second Tuesday of each month, six P. M. City Hall Council, excuse me, City Hall Levi Meeting Room, November twelfth. [2:22:01, 2:22:07]: Okay, and then downtown development authority meeting of course uh I have here November date will be announced at a later time. [2:22:07, 2:22:27]: Upcoming city events and initiatives. Join Councilman Fonzo Thomas for the monthly Senior Bingo Bash on Wednesday, October 16th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merrill Manos Conference Center. 111 Davis Row for Raffles, Prizes, Games, Snacks, and F. Join the City of Stockbridge for the Fifty Shades of Pink Love Walk to highlight [2:22:27, 2:22:36]: Breast cancer awareness and survivors at Clark Park, 111 Davis Road, Saturday, October 19th from 10:30 a.m. to 1 p.m. [2:22:37, 2:22:54]: Join Councilwoman Lakeitia Gantt for the annual Fall Festival at DeClark Community Park, 111 Davis Road, Saturday, October 26th, from 12 noon to 4 p.m. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, October 28th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Starbury City Hall. [2:22:54, 2:23:04]: Join Councilwoman Lakeisha Gann in partnership with Atlanta Food Truck Park at the night market of the Stockbridge Amphitheater parking lot from 6 p.m. to 9-30 p.m. November 7th. [2:23:04, 2:23:24]: And november twenty first. There will be vendors, food, trucks, activities, games, music, vibes. Contact Tam Bowers at the peaceofmind at gmail dot com for registration and additional information. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Tras Stockbridge Initiative and Center round educating highlights and causes and effects of littering and [2:23:24, 2:23:25]: [8605.5, 8625.5]: More information to follow on that. And Councilman Thomas for honoring veterans and continuing salute to our year long. Please send your pictures of veterans and their name, branch, rank, and years of service. Service there. Councilman Thomas will also distribute free smoke detectors along with the Fire Marshal Demetrius Wells. The date and location will be announced soon, so stay tuned for that. [2:23:45, 2:23:59]: Please contact Rosland Rawls to schedule an appointment with Meet the Mayor or for more information on council initiatives and events at 678-833-3348 or by way of email rawls at starbridgega.org. [2:24:00, 2:24:20]: 2024 con uh Stockbridge Amphitheater Concert Series, The Bridge. We're on our final 30 days. Sunday, uh October 20th, 2024, rescheduled show. We feature Charlie Wilson and special guest L DeBarge. So if you had a ticket previously for the uh show that for Charlie Wilson a couple months or so ago, we had thunderstorms kept us from completing that show. [2:24:19, 2:24:39]: So you can utilize that same ticket, that same seat to come for this particular concert and see El DeBarge, as well with Charlie Wilson, of course. October 26, 2024, Bony James, Slowburn Tour with special guest Damien Excabar, our jazz concert. And Saturday, November 2nd, 2024, of course, Dirty South. [2:24:39, 2:24:51]: Throwback Hip Hop Fest featuring East Side Boys, DJ Holiday, 95 South, Trey Bills, Redeem the Dream, DJ UNK, MC Shai D, and Kilo Ali. [2:24:52, 2:25:12]: All right, that's the last concert of 2024 season. But I have to admit, I gotta tell you, ladies and gentlemen, the um the concert we had uh Saturday night, our first youth concert, youth concert with that girl Lele is fantastic. And I'm telling you what, I I would look seriously, we're gonna s try our best to schedule another youth concert each and every year for the youth in the community to come. [2:25:12, 2:25:32]: By and enjoy themselves. And last night, sold-out concert for the Southern Soul and Blues. And we had a great time. Pax PAX sold-out amphitheater. Tucker, Pokey Bear, Sir Charles, King George, Entourage had a great time. Look forward to them coming back sometime next year as well. Um, a few a couple days ago. [2:25:31, 2:25:51]: Go. The Faith in Blue along with the Faith and Blue dealt with the Stockbridge Police Department and also in ministry. The faith-based community had a softball game at JP Mosley Park, and the Stockbridge Police Department actually won nine to eight in the softball game, but it's all about unity and community and community and community. [2:25:51, 2:26:11]: Committing it communion dealing with the community in this aspect, you know, so uh that happened. So look forward to them doing much things more things like that again as as well. And Tuesday, tomorrow, October fifteenth, early voting starts. Now I I've I've if you're a registered voter, you already know where you need to vote. But obviously most folks in this media area may go to [2:26:11, 2:26:24]: Murray Manus Conference and they're all set up for you to go vote. So go vote. There's your constitutional right, please do that. It is your power. You must do that. And of course the voting the actual voting day, election day is November fifth, but if you can get it done earlier, that'd be great. [2:26:25, 2:26:33]: That way you you save yourself some time and effort. So please go out and vote. All right. On that note, I do not have any executive session. [2:26:35, 2:26:36]: Yes, sir. You got something, sir? [2:26:36, 2:26:39]: When you finish, I do wanna Go ahead, sir. Go ahead. [2:26:40, 2:27:00]: I wanted to re-emphasize to everyone that's listening to the council uh leading up to Veterans Day, uh, we uh re-emphasizing to submit uh pictures of veterans uh rank service. Uh we wanted to do a special [2:27:00, 2:27:18]: recognition of all veterans during that time. I know we asked for pictures. Some have uh submitted, but I just want to reemphasize because we will do a special uh dedication for veterans during uh Veterans Month. Thank you. No problem. Yes ma'am. [2:27:20, 2:27:25]: and exemptions will be here in person Saturday. [2:27:27, 2:27:39]: All right, there you go. You just have that announcement, ladies and gentlemen. Fantastic. All right. On that note, uh once again, Council, I have no uh issues or nothing to know nothing about our executive session, so I ask for a motion to adjourn. [2:27:40, 2:27:47]: Okay, from Mr. Berry, is there a second? Oh from Mr. Thomas and Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. God bless you, we are now adjourned. Good night. [2:27:48, 2:27:51]: Okay. Let me I I reset the tone. [2:27:53, 2:28:05]: Obviously your wife and viral days, so to get things ready for Thursday. Oh yeah, as far as I know, I was I was actually there for a little while trying to get ready for the
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    --- title: Urban Redevelopment Agency Meeting date: 2024-10-07 source: 2024-10-07_Urban_Redevelopment_Agency_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:43, 0:00:53]: All right, council, uh I have six o'clock, so I'd like to call our um Stockbridge uh URA meeting to order. [0:00:54, 0:01:00]: And with that note, uh invocation, please uh councilman Thomas, stand if you can, please. [0:01:03, 0:01:05]: Let us pray. [0:01:06, 0:01:14]: Oh Heavenly Father, we come before you once again to say thank you and to ask for your blessings. [0:01:15, 0:01:35]: And to provide for this council all of the resources we need to continue to make the city of Stockbridge a great city. We ask for your favor, we ask for your blessing, and we pray that all of our legislation today is in your favor. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. [0:01:34, 0:01:35]: Mm. [0:01:36, 0:01:48]: And the Pledge of Allegiance? One nation, under God, indivisible, which we and justice. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:01:52, 0:01:55]: Evening. Present. [0:02:06, 0:02:08]: Present. [0:02:13, 0:02:14]: President [0:02:15, 0:02:17]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate it. [0:02:17, 0:02:19]: Um board I need um [0:02:19, 0:02:20]: A motion to approve the agenda, please. [0:02:21, 0:02:22]: So moved. Is there a second? [0:02:22, 0:02:26]: Ms. Barber Secondett from uh Gantta Barber, all on favor please indicate. [0:02:27, 0:02:37]: Okay, so unanimous decision on that. I need a motion to approve the last meetings last meeting's minutes, which was September twenty fourth of twenty twenty four. You should have them in front of you. [0:02:39, 0:02:43]: Mayor Ford. Yes, Mayor. I do have a question though. It um Go ahead. [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: It shows only [0:02:48, 0:02:57]: I think every one of us was here except for Councilwoman Gantt though. And I'm looking at one of that last paragraph in the minutes. [0:02:57, 0:02:58]: Mm-hmm. [0:02:58, 0:03:00]: Looking at the motion. [0:03:01, 0:03:04]: Pass three zero says board member Gantt was not present for the vote. [0:03:05, 0:03:07]: So that would have been four of us. [0:03:08, 0:03:12]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Uh right, you're right. And but I went to [0:03:13, 0:03:17]: I went to um I was in the back. Why was still in? [0:03:19, 0:03:25]: No but that would still leave four members voting. [0:03:25, 0:03:28]: Councilwoman Gantt would make number five. [0:03:28, 0:03:29]: If she was [0:03:29, 0:03:31]: present for the vote. [0:03:32, 0:03:34]: So if you can make that correction. [0:03:36, 0:03:40]: I mean I will make the correction but I don't remember. [0:03:42, 0:03:44]: Passive way Alexander was a bit. [0:03:45, 0:04:00]: I will I will make the correction to the box. Or it can we are we able to table this so that and I'm not certain. Well I'm not certain who all was present. Um I just know that there was just one [0:04:01, 0:04:02]: That wasn't here. [0:04:02, 0:04:05]: Well Alexander H well, he was here for the meeting. [0:04:06, 0:04:11]: He's that he made a motion of initially to approve the previous mini meeting's minutes, so he was here. [0:04:11, 0:04:13]: I'm pretty sure he was here at the end of the meeting. [0:04:17, 0:04:21]: So if he was if if he was here that means it would be four I mean mis I miss um [0:04:22, 0:04:24]: This holiday. [0:04:24, 0:04:28]: You you had three zero. I I I'm pretty sure Alezan was here. [0:04:30, 0:04:34]: [275.0, 281.7]: Can we table these meeting minutes until it's confirmed and bring'em back at the next meeting? [0:04:43, 0:04:46]: Only for that and I know it's minor. [0:04:46, 0:04:57]: Yeah, I agree. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we table the minutes to the meeting until we can confirm the actual correct vote because we can't do anything until we can get it corrected anyway. [0:04:57, 0:04:58]: If there's a challenge to that. [0:04:59, 0:05:02]: And if you don't mind, um, Madam Clerk. [0:05:02, 0:05:03]: Um [0:05:03, 0:05:21]: If you can add that I was ac I was sick, like I had a fever, but I came to the back to executive session to hear the presentation. So if you don't mind noting that I was present for that portion, because we weren't gonna vote after that. I just needed to come and listen to the presentation. The way it reads now is if as if I didn't attend at all. [0:05:22, 0:05:24]: When we have these kind of meetings. [0:05:24, 0:05:25]: It's [0:05:25, 0:05:31]: you know, I have two younger kids so I have to wait until they're back home before I can come here. [0:05:33, 0:05:35]: Madam Clerk, you you got that note there? [0:05:38, 0:05:38]: Yes, ma'am. [0:05:38, 0:05:48]: So that would be for the motion to adjourn the executive session and also the motion to reconvene the meeting. [0:05:48, 0:05:57]: Yeah. Well the minutes have just the minutes. Yes. Yes, I made a motion to table the minutes until d until we can um get confirmed. [0:05:57, 0:05:58]: I second that. [0:05:59, 0:06:03]: Madam Clerk, you have all that? Okay. All in favor of the motion please indicate? [0:06:03, 0:06:09]: Damage decision. Appreciate it. Okay, now I need a uh well, motion to go in an executive session for real estate matters. [0:06:11, 0:06:21]: Mayor, I move that we go into executive session for on behalf of real estate issues. Okay, sir second. Ms. Barber second it, all in favor please indicate. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we'll go into executive session. Thank you. [0:06:21, 0:06:22]: You better. [0:06:32, 0:06:52]: No quarter. Are you you set? All right. Board, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. Okay, mr for Mr. Thomas. Is there a second? Second. Okay, all all approved. All approved. Okay, so you now see the decision. [0:06:52, 0:07:11]: All right, so at the foreman executive session that we have um nothing to report at this time um in reference to our discussion of the URA for property and real estate. So now I'm board I need a motion to end our URA meeting. So Okay for Mr. Uh Thomas again. Ms. again you second that? So okay. All in favor please indicate. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Okay, Sina Susan. God bless you. Good night.
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    --- title: URBAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING date: 2024-09-24 source: 2024-09-24_URBAN_REDEVELOPMENT_AGENCY_MEETING.wav --- [0:02:33, 0:02:46]: All right, council, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to get our uh meeting started, the URA meeting for uh Tuesday, September twenty fourth. I have at this point five oh two. I'd like to call the meeting to order. [0:02:46, 0:02:48]: And please stand for the invocation. [0:02:49, 0:03:09]: I'll do that. Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again to conduct the city's business, allow us to make good logical decisions, continue to move our city forward, be progressive in this uh in this particular area and do the best we can for our constituents, our citizens, constituents there. Please always, Lord, in your name. Amen. Okay. [0:03:09, 0:03:20]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:03:25, 0:03:28]: Uh present. [0:03:29, 0:03:38]: Vice Chair Thomas. Present. Board Member Alexander. Present. Board Member Barber. Present. Board Member Berry. Present. Board Member Gantt. [0:03:39, 0:03:59]: Please let the record reflect Board Member Gantt is not in attendance. Chair Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um board, I need a motion to approve the agenda, please. So is there a second? Mr. Barrett's second, all favor, please indicate. All right. And uh [0:03:59, 0:04:05]: need a motion to approve the minutes uh from the april eighth uh meeting. [0:04:06, 0:04:07]: So moving. Sir Second. [0:04:10, 0:04:13]: Mr Mr uh Thomas Second, all in favor please indicate. [0:04:15, 0:04:25]: All right, it's unanimous decision on that. Okay, we have a presentation um in reference to the downtown redevelopment project and uh since this is a real estate uh [0:04:28, 0:04:37]: I'm doing a presentation? Okay. All right then. Mr. Gardner, the presentation is gonna give us a presentation. Please do so, sir. Thank you. It's on you, sir. [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: All right. [0:05:05, 0:05:10]: Good afternoon. Afternoon, sir. Board members, Mr Chairman. [0:05:10, 0:05:13]: Um so tonight wanna discuss with you the [0:05:14, 0:05:16]: Uh downtown Stockbridge Town Center. [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: Um [0:05:18, 0:05:27]: Kind of show you talk to you guys a little bit about this at our retreat. Um started this process uh in earnest, I think back in [0:05:28, 0:05:35]: January, February of twenty twenty two, when I first got here, when we started initiating work around the tax allocation district. [0:05:36, 0:05:38]: Um recognizing that [0:05:38, 0:05:47]: Growth around the city of Stockbridge over the last thirty-five years have all occurred on the fringe while there's been no activity. [0:05:47, 0:05:49]: in the downtown area to expand. [0:05:50, 0:05:51]: Or to provide [0:05:52, 0:05:54]: new opportunities within the downtown. [0:05:55, 0:06:03]: Unlike our brethren sisters in the city of Stockbridge and the city of Locust Grove and the city of Hampton and specifically McDonough. [0:06:03, 0:06:05]: Where there is commercial and commerce. [0:06:06, 0:06:08]: being done in their downtown, there's none here. [0:06:09, 0:06:13]: So our growth over the last thirty plus years have been a donut. [0:06:14, 0:06:18]: All associated with what's happening on the fringes of the city. [0:06:18, 0:06:20]: To include along our interstate corridor. [0:06:21, 0:06:24]: Which is the reason why we have grown the way we have. [0:06:24, 0:06:26]: So with that [0:06:26, 0:06:30]: In bringing my wealth to background and downtown redevelopment. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: And redevelopment here. [0:06:32, 0:06:35]: Wanted to focus on how do we revive this downtown? [0:06:36, 0:06:37]: А до вистопенної [0:06:38, 0:06:45]: In places like Swannee and Alfareta and Decatur and all these other cities outside the city of Stockbridge and outside Henry County. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: How do we spend our money here? [0:06:48, 0:06:50]: Where we live and enjoy the opportunities here. [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: Right? [0:06:52, 0:06:53]: And so with that [0:06:53, 0:06:56]: Move forward with working with our group. [0:06:57, 0:07:05]: Kind of look at how do we repline this whole downtown and make it something that we typically see when we go on our retreats to visit other communities. [0:07:05, 0:07:07]: And what's happening in their downtown areas? [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: Right. [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: At our budget retreat I showed the council. [0:07:11, 0:07:13]: city of Al Ferrero. [0:07:13, 0:07:16]: Downtown, right across from the city hall, twenty nineteen, absolutely nothing. [0:07:17, 0:07:19]: Twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. [0:07:20, 0:07:21]: Multi story mixed use development. [0:07:22, 0:07:23]: Sugar Hill. [0:07:23, 0:07:28]: Cross the street from there, sugar city hall, absolutely nothing. Twenty nineteen. [0:07:28, 0:07:33]: Twenty twenty four, multi use, mixed use development, multi-story mixed use development. [0:07:34, 0:07:35]: That's what's happening elsewhere. [0:07:36, 0:07:37]: Swarning. [0:07:38, 0:07:39]: Smyrna. [0:07:40, 0:07:40]: Woodstock. [0:07:42, 0:07:43]: Marieto. [0:07:44, 0:07:45]: That's what's happening elsewhere. [0:07:45, 0:07:46]: But it's not happening. [0:07:47, 0:07:48]: South of I twenty. [0:07:48, 0:07:50]: And I explained to your my view of that. [0:07:51, 0:07:53]: Right? Why that's happened. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: Right. And so hopefully [0:07:56, 0:07:58]: I think as a Catholic project [0:07:59, 0:08:02]: The tide would s incentivise the opportunity. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: That has been missed. [0:08:05, 0:08:07]: Everybody believed that money can be made on the interstate. [0:08:08, 0:08:11]: And because we don't have the attraction, nobody's made the investments here. [0:08:12, 0:08:13]: Other than who? [0:08:14, 0:08:15]: City government. [0:08:16, 0:08:18]: Right? As Mr. Alfonso could attest. [0:08:19, 0:08:21]: Our former mayor in that council. [0:08:22, 0:08:23]: Put this building in motion. [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: Put the Ted Strickland in motion. [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: Put the Merrill Mandus in motion. [0:08:29, 0:08:30]: Put the streetscape in motion. [0:08:32, 0:08:35]: All of that being public investment followed by little to no [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: private investment. [0:08:38, 0:08:40]: What if we put a D in the state? [0:08:40, 0:08:41]: Absolutely nothing. [0:08:43, 0:08:43]: What's coming there? [0:08:44, 0:08:45]: Target. [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: Cost go. [0:08:48, 0:08:51]: Right? South Point and McDonald. Tango. [0:08:52, 0:08:53]: In Locus Grove. [0:08:55, 0:08:57]: The only other city that follows behind us in that track. [0:08:58, 0:08:59]: Is Hampton? [0:08:59, 0:09:01]: And that's because [0:09:02, 0:09:04]: They don't know how to take advantage, but not a learning. [0:09:04, 0:09:07]: And you're seeing what's happening around the city of uh city of Hampton. [0:09:08, 0:09:10]: So with that, want to talk a little bit about [0:09:10, 0:09:14]: Вот вин да к не дан і на downtown. [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: And how we can make it happen. [0:09:17, 0:09:18]: So [0:09:18, 0:09:21]: If this is a phrase that the city council wants to continue it. [0:09:22, 0:09:24]: Tog Stockbridge Town Center. [0:09:24, 0:09:33]: We could use that. If you guys want to change it, that's fine. Just something we thought would be cute and nice to look at. But the f picture that you're looking at now is [0:09:33, 0:09:35]: Our vision of Berk Street. [0:09:37, 0:09:39]: Right? That's Wake Street. [0:09:39, 0:09:45]: That cell tower is not going anywhere, but if you look out the windows right there you will see that cell tower sitting behind the Ted's Frickland building. [0:09:46, 0:09:48]: So where you see the little parking area? [0:09:48, 0:09:51]: In the downtown is what's behind you on Book Street. [0:09:52, 0:09:57]: And if you were looking at this, you'd be sitting at there at our either our um [0:09:59, 0:10:00]: Performing Arts Center. [0:10:01, 0:10:12]: Or our Performing Arts Center and Uton Senior Center, you'd be across the street looking at this from that direction. So you'd be looking from east, from west to east, and this what you'd be seeing. [0:10:13, 0:10:17]: Right? A multi story development, followed by a nice courtyard that puts you [0:10:17, 0:10:20]: behind the Ted Strickland onto MLK. [0:10:20, 0:10:25]: And those buildings that exist now, these buildings that you see do not exist, but that's part of what we want to see in the future. [0:10:28, 0:10:29]: This is the master plan for that. [0:10:30, 0:10:32]: So everything in the [0:10:33, 0:10:36]: Bright yellow is new development. [0:10:36, 0:10:38]: Everything you see in in the [0:10:39, 0:10:40]: Low yellow is existing. [0:10:41, 0:10:43]: So an opportunity to build. [0:10:44, 0:10:46]: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. [0:10:47, 0:10:49]: Buildings in the downtown area. [0:10:49, 0:10:53]: To facilitate live, work and play. We have a park. [0:10:53, 0:10:55]: That's less than a quarter mile away. [0:10:55, 0:10:58]: We have ball fields that's actually half a mile away. [0:10:59, 0:11:04]: All within walking distance, fifteen to twenty minute walking distance from this area, if you circle it. [0:11:05, 0:11:09]: Right. In there we envision parking deck, structured parking. [0:11:10, 0:11:13]: Where we have the amphitheater parking, which is surface. [0:11:13, 0:11:15]: Having a structured parking. [0:11:15, 0:11:18]: Taking away some of that existing structured parking. [0:11:19, 0:11:23]: uh surface parking and replacing it with a multi story mixed use development. [0:11:24, 0:11:26]: And subsidizing that parking area there. [0:11:27, 0:11:29]: And having a building directly across from this building. [0:11:30, 0:11:34]: And two buildings subsidized by a parking structure. [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: And then uh obviously [0:11:36, 0:11:39]: Some new buildings downtown on property that we own. [0:11:39, 0:11:43]: And hopefully the market'll take care of the other two properties on Berk Street that we don't own. [0:11:49, 0:11:57]: I think this is the vision most of you guys have seen over the last few months to a year. Is directly across from City Hall, a multi-story building. [0:11:57, 0:12:17]: To provide residential downtown as well as new retail restaurant shopping opportunities along East Atlanta Road. And on the bottom, what you would see on Brook Street, some residential followed by resident by commercial retail on that area. [0:12:20, 0:12:22]: So the meat of the matter. [0:12:22, 0:12:37]: Um and these numbers obviously are estimates by our uh architects and um the consultant that will be presenting to you guys later. Um they've looked at the numbers and think that the numbers are pretty much in order and I'm actually having those numbers actually reviewed again. [0:12:37, 0:12:42]: by another outside entity to make sure that we're in keeping and making sure we get as much as we can. [0:12:42, 0:12:43]: But an overall [0:12:44, 0:12:47]: What you're looking at is those developments. [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: Um adding up to a total [0:12:50, 0:12:52]: Конструкцій кос об'єс [0:12:52, 0:12:55]: Around three hundred and twenty six milyen dollars. [0:12:55, 0:12:58]: And total costs for all of the project that you see there. [0:12:59, 0:13:00]: Right. And [0:13:01, 0:13:07]: what we estimate under the property tax what that would do. So I'm reevaluating those numbers to make sure. [0:13:07, 0:13:10]: That we're actually correct in that area. [0:13:10, 0:13:16]: Um, just on his face everything looks good, but I wanna make sure we'll be a tired consultant on on board that we'll [0:13:16, 0:13:24]: Actually making sure that we c capture all of the information there. There might be some variations based on our negotiations, obviously, with the school board. [0:13:24, 0:13:26]: And with the county. [0:13:27, 0:13:35]: commissioners and I've met with the county staff um within the last two weeks. Um [0:13:36, 0:13:38]: And brought them up to speed on this project. [0:13:38, 0:13:41]: Went over some of the numbers with the finance and the county manager. [0:13:42, 0:13:43]: I meant [0:13:43, 0:13:47]: Um the following week, right before I left on vacation with the school superintendent. [0:13:48, 0:13:51]: Um he is very familiar with Tads, having worked in Florida. [0:13:51, 0:13:54]: Where they're known as TIFF district, tax for increment financing district. [0:13:55, 0:13:57]: And actually factors one of the projects he was working on. [0:13:58, 0:14:02]: prior to him leaving to come here as our superintendent. So he's very aware of the tide. [0:14:02, 0:14:06]: His staff has brought him up to speed from the meetings I had with the previous superintendent. [0:14:06, 0:14:07]: Um [0:14:08, 0:14:22]: And obviously their situation is they want to see what the county do before they do anything. But um we're setting up a meeting to meet with the chair and the county manager and then from there get on the agenda with the county board. [0:14:23, 0:14:32]: to see what they will be doing in terms of their participation in our TAD. The other pages of the document just gives you a close up shot um of what [0:14:32, 0:14:39]: those buildings would look like from a story s from a square footed standpoint and usage. [0:14:40, 0:14:42]: So you see commercial residential parking. [0:14:43, 0:14:44]: Um in building one. [0:14:45, 0:14:47]: Building two residential. [0:14:47, 0:14:49]: And commercial? [0:14:49, 0:14:50]: With some parking? [0:14:52, 0:14:58]: Number three would be residential commercial parking services. [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: Number four. [0:15:01, 0:15:03]: Um parking and commercial. [0:15:05, 0:15:12]: And then downtown on the old historic side, Burke Street, having um mixed commercial residential. [0:15:20, 0:15:24]: And then it talks about a little bit about the implementation. [0:15:24, 0:15:29]: of you know TAD special post for district tax, uh municipal bond financing. [0:15:30, 0:15:37]: gives you an overview of those different criteria on which to use utilize. And uh I'll take any questions you may have. [0:15:40, 0:15:43]: Councillor, any questions off from this presentation? [0:15:44, 0:16:04]: Mr. Alexander, you got something on your mind? Yes, I'm I'm excited about it. It seems like uh as you have indicated that it's long overdue. You know, I just want to make sure we're we're as going down this path. We want to make sure that we're significant, we're we're taking these significant steps and that uh the project is going to be. [0:16:04, 0:16:24]: Laid out in a timely basis to generate the type of downtown that we desire and that we want to set the pace for here in the city of Stockbridge. We don't want a downtown, we want the downtown. So I think this project will generate that for us. [0:16:24, 0:16:44]: uh making sure and we making sure that we're taking uh the appropriate steps and moving it down the tracks, getting with the county, getting with the school board, time is of the essence. Uh, you know, so certainly uh making those things happen uh in a timely fashion is something that I would like to see. [0:16:44, 0:16:52]: and uh and on a an aggressive timetable where we see uh dirt moving in the near term. [0:16:54, 0:16:57]: Any other council members, questions, concerns, thoughts? [0:16:58, 0:17:01]: Ms. Barber Gloyd, please. I do. Thank you, Mr. Gardner. [0:17:02, 0:17:07]: I'm excited about the redevelopment and revitalization of our downtown. [0:17:08, 0:17:15]: I wanna say that first. Um and I like what I've seen in the schematics. [0:17:16, 0:17:25]: My concern is the process. I don't want us to rush. I want us to take our time, do it right. [0:17:26, 0:17:28]: А я в сам концерн з баба до процес. [0:17:30, 0:17:30]: That's all. [0:17:31, 0:17:35]: My concern is there currently is no policy. [0:17:36, 0:17:42]: There is no policy on how the city dispose of its real estate properties. [0:17:42, 0:17:44]: So I [0:17:44, 0:17:45]: Don't know. [0:17:46, 0:17:48]: What steps where we are at this point? [0:17:49, 0:17:52]: Are you looking for us to make a decision today? [0:17:53, 0:17:54]: This is just presentation. [0:17:55, 0:17:56]: Thank you, sir. [0:17:57, 0:18:00]: Yes, and and from from the disposition of property. [0:18:01, 0:18:01]: You know. [0:18:02, 0:18:08]: I mentioned to you to the city council when I first got here and and we did put a bid out under the name of the city. [0:18:09, 0:18:09]: Um [0:18:10, 0:18:26]: back in uh I think twenty twenty three and we got one non responsive bid back on that process. And I said, Hey, let's let's do this through the Urban Redevelopment Agency because that allows us, it gives us the flexibility to go talk. [0:18:26, 0:18:27]: to developers. [0:18:27, 0:18:28]: Um [0:18:29, 0:18:49]: And bring see who would be willing to take this project on after having those discussions. And and we garnered some interests in some in terms of some of the entities I spoke to. Um one entity in in particular stayed through the process of, you know, telling us they're interested. Um [0:18:49, 0:19:09]: Um, working to put a design together on our properties. Um, but there's been no disposition yet of any of this of these properties, other than they're still owned by. Um, and that process obviously will we will follow the state requirements as guided because yes, you're right, you know, your urban redevelopment of [0:19:09, 0:19:28]: authorities, your commun your development authorities in your DDA, they don't unless you decide to adopt some policy. They typically follow the state requirements, which means because they're economically driven and the reason why they were formed in the first place was so that they don't have to wrangle under the requirements of city [0:19:29, 0:19:30]: Policies. [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: Right? We would have never got Kier. [0:19:33, 0:19:34]: In this state. [0:19:35, 0:19:36]: Had we had [0:19:37, 0:19:48]: the state economic development and the local DDA or the local CDA had to bid that process out. Alabama or South Carolina would have stole that project because they would have known who was coming. [0:19:49, 0:19:51]: And that's the reason why. [0:19:51, 0:20:00]: They formed those entities back in the nineteen fifties. Some of them urban redevelopment law has been in place since nineteen fifty two or nineteen fifty four in the state of Georgia. [0:20:00, 0:20:01]: Right. [0:20:01, 0:20:09]: Um, so those entities were formed a long time ago. You can either be constitutional or you could be legislative. Those are the two types that you're allowed to have in the state. [0:20:10, 0:20:13]: Um so someone some does constitution, some does legislative. [0:20:14, 0:20:15]: Um depending on when they formed. [0:20:16, 0:20:17]: But inerrantly [0:20:18, 0:20:29]: you form them because you don't want them to be at a competitive disadvantage man doing development projects. And so having policies that either slow that down, can have a project, say [0:20:29, 0:20:45]: Thank you very much, Dogbridge, but I'm gonna go to Forest Park because Forest Park has a timeline that meets my money requirements. And so have fun. I don't wanna wrangle with a 40-day and a 20-day review. I could go to Forest Park, use their DDA and have the project done over there. [0:20:46, 0:20:49]: And that's the reason why that process is in place. [0:20:49, 0:20:55]: Um but yes, uh our goal is to follow the requirements as required. [0:20:55, 0:20:57]: with the disposition whenever that time comes. [0:20:58, 0:20:59]: This deal might not get there. [0:21:00, 0:21:11]: Right. Um but inerrantly when we get to that point we'll follow as required whatever that's under the state requirements to make it happen, unless this board decides to adopt some other policy. [0:21:11, 0:21:24]: Excuse me, Mr. Gardner. I'm sorry. Mayor Ford. Go right, please. Okay. Um, so I know before we get to the point of involving the boards, the DDA, CDA, URA. [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: The city. [0:21:27, 0:21:29]: There are certain things the city should do. [0:21:30, 0:21:32]: Mm-hmm. You mentioned that you put out a beard. Mm-hmm. [0:21:34, 0:21:50]: those or that proposal that was submitted, it never came to the governing body for us to review it. So this is why I say we need a policy. A policy that will describe um the level of involvement [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: That each [0:21:52, 0:21:55]: level of government is involved and at what point. [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: Of course. [0:21:58, 0:22:00]: with the municipal government [0:22:00, 0:22:02]: The point where you put out the bid. [0:22:03, 0:22:03]: Um [0:22:05, 0:22:19]: If you advertised it in the legal Oregon for the county Hearing Herald, I did submit an ORR and there was no results that any of these projects had been advertised. That is in the law. [0:22:20, 0:22:23]: But then I know on the municipal side. [0:22:24, 0:22:25]: And by the way. [0:22:25, 0:22:28]: In your notebooks for everybody. [0:22:28, 0:22:29]: Um [0:22:29, 0:22:47]: You have copies. Copies of the state codes because this is what I wanted to discuss at the last meeting so that we're all on the same page. It includes the state codes of what the municipal municipal level is supposed to do. [0:22:47, 0:22:51]: And of course I provided copies of the urban redevelopment. [0:22:52, 0:22:54]: Because I know it gives a broad [0:22:54, 0:22:58]: leverage to municipalities on how we go about [0:23:00, 0:23:02]: Disposing of real estate properties. [0:23:04, 0:23:05]: A support. [0:23:05, 0:23:08]: our plans and where we are. [0:23:08, 0:23:10]: Where we're trying to go. [0:23:10, 0:23:13]: My problem is I'm a procurement professional. [0:23:14, 0:23:19]: So this is I know this process. The fact that the city does not have a policy. [0:23:20, 0:23:23]: It does not have a policy, so I don't know. [0:23:25, 0:23:26]: We are not in agreement. [0:23:27, 0:23:30]: as to what steps, the level of involvement, [0:23:31, 0:23:33]: I believe that each of the boards [0:23:34, 0:23:35]: Що [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: Um [0:23:36, 0:23:38]: Some representation. [0:23:38, 0:23:39]: At the table. [0:23:40, 0:23:45]: when those developers come with their proposals so that we can have input. [0:23:45, 0:23:49]: Evaluation so it's not just you, Mr. Gardner. [0:23:49, 0:23:53]: choosing which developer to um [0:23:53, 0:23:56]: bring to the council. Not saying that that's the case. [0:23:56, 0:23:57]: I'm just [0:23:57, 0:23:58]: Going forward. [0:23:59, 0:24:00]: I want to make sure [0:24:00, 0:24:02]: That there is a policy. [0:24:03, 0:24:07]: In place so that everybody is on the same page. [0:24:07, 0:24:12]: I want there to be an opportunity for anyone. [0:24:12, 0:24:16]: Who wants to do business with our city? Stock bridge is open for business. [0:24:17, 0:24:18]: We are ready. [0:24:19, 0:24:19]: To do them. [0:24:20, 0:24:21]: The work. [0:24:21, 0:24:22]: We're ready. [0:24:22, 0:24:25]: То ревитализар. [0:24:26, 0:24:29]: The residents have been waiting long enough. [0:24:29, 0:24:31]: I want us to get it right. [0:24:31, 0:24:34]: I don't there's no need to rush it. [0:24:35, 0:24:38]: I know we have timelines, but it's important [0:24:38, 0:24:40]: For the council. [0:24:40, 0:24:41]: To understand [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: Дес процес. [0:24:43, 0:24:44]: The policies [0:24:44, 0:24:45]: going forward. [0:24:46, 0:24:47]: That's all. [0:24:47, 0:24:48]: Yes, ma'am. [0:24:48, 0:24:53]: Yes, ma'am, thank you. And and you know, I I think everybody here knows I mean [0:24:55, 0:25:00]: You're a procurement professional. I am also uh urban development [0:25:00, 0:25:02]: Professional and has been for over thirty years. [0:25:03, 0:25:06]: I'm also nationally and internationally certified in my field. [0:25:06, 0:25:14]: Right. Um, if you wanna look at what I've done, you go to the city of Griffin. Right? When I got there, there were burglar bars on storefronts. [0:25:16, 0:25:20]: Mr. Gardner, if I may just say [0:25:21, 0:25:25]: Could he're not saying could he finish the statement? I don't know if he's not a [0:25:26, 0:25:33]: Oh no, for the same. I underst yeah. Understood and and so members of the governing body, we're the decision makers. And I get it. [0:25:33, 0:25:36]: Yes. Your expertise is why you're here. Yes. [0:25:38, 0:25:57]: That's how. Finish your statement, Mr. Gardner, if you need to finish it. I'm done. Um so yeah, so I I I want everybody to know that, you know, we we wanna move, but yes, we're gonna move j judiciously. We're gonna move in a way that everybody understands where we're going and how we're going now. [0:25:57, 0:26:00]: Where we where this road starts and where this road ends, right? [0:26:01, 0:26:03]: Um and hopefully at the end [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: We sідis culminate we [0:26:06, 0:26:11]: Hey, not only that this council agrees on this is how this is where we want, you know, that that vision, right? [0:26:12, 0:26:16]: Батвіо брил алпанс, пизнетами с хан. [0:26:17, 0:26:19]: We need three entities. [0:26:20, 0:26:21]: Outside of us. [0:26:22, 0:26:23]: Right. [0:26:23, 0:26:25]: We need the Henry County school board. [0:26:26, 0:26:28]: Ви ніді Хенри Конті борд комісір. [0:26:29, 0:26:30]: And we need a partner. [0:26:31, 0:26:35]: Somebody is gonna come in and do that job, to do that do that construction. [0:26:35, 0:26:38]: And recognize that whoever that entity is [0:26:38, 0:26:39]: Yeah, they're gonna take a risk. [0:26:40, 0:26:47]: Right? Because please, as I mentioned to you guys, where has this been done south of I twenty? [0:26:48, 0:26:49]: Clayton County. [0:26:50, 0:26:51]: Hamley County. [0:26:52, 0:26:53]: Well that's currently [0:26:53, 0:26:59]: Well, Griffin technically had it in place because they were developed layers ago in a concept to that effect. [0:26:59, 0:27:01]: But Rockdale County. [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: Newton. [0:27:03, 0:27:06]: Outside of Peachtree City, and we all know why. [0:27:07, 0:27:08]: Peace Tree City. [0:27:08, 0:27:08]: All right. [0:27:09, 0:27:17]: You got all the Delta Pilots down there, stewardesses that live down there, and they've got disposable incomes of over$150,000 household income. [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: So money gonna travel. [0:27:20, 0:27:23]: And our median income is somewhere around eighty. [0:27:25, 0:27:25]: Right. [0:27:26, 0:27:26]: But [0:27:27, 0:27:30]: Remember that throughout this period that all of us have lived here. [0:27:32, 0:27:37]: We have not been able to enjoy what we see in our sister ho sister cities in their downtown. [0:27:38, 0:27:43]: And I know this council is gonna go. So we're long as we bring the partners along, we're gonna bring them along the right way. [0:27:44, 0:27:48]: Um, as I mentioned to you guys at the last city council meeting, Frederick don't look good in jumpsuit. [0:27:49, 0:27:53]: I ain't six foot five, three hundred and fifty pounds of fight, so I ain't going to jail. [0:27:55, 0:28:00]: All right. Um I wanna make sure this get done correct. Uh and the way [0:28:01, 0:28:04]: That we've done it before. And I know we're running short on time, so let me [0:28:04, 0:28:07]: Let us get to talking to a group that has shown some interest. [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: And doing this project in our downtown. [0:28:11, 0:28:31]: Um they have a presentation to go through. They're gonna look at the downtown area as holistic. So it's gonna be three two to three parts that they're gonna look at, present to you guys, and then ask as much questions as you want of these guys. Take that back. No one's asking anybody. We're not selling anything today. This is you know. [0:28:31, 0:28:40]: Not giving anything away today. This is them coming and telling you, we're interested in doing a project in your city and this is that project we're interested in. We're interested in being that part. [0:28:42, 0:28:44]: If you want to work with us, so [0:28:44, 0:28:45]: I turned over. [0:28:45, 0:29:00]: Okay and that that's not not a executive session issue. That's the they're gonna do the presentation. We'll go in the executive session. I have to go in the executive session for that. Okay. So I need a motion to go in secondary session for this further discussion. Mayor Ford, I'd like to m move first to go into executive session for a person [0:29:00, 0:29:03]: Real estate matter. Real estate matter, that's correct. Yes. Sir second emotion. [0:29:04, 0:29:06]: Mr. Barba uh Mr. Berry second it. [0:29:07, 0:29:09]: Mr. Berry Second I'm sorry, sir. [0:29:14, 0:29:17]: That's city. This is the board. It's U R A. [0:29:18, 0:29:22]: From Miss Ms uh Barber to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. [0:29:23, 0:29:25]: Okay, we're going to say we're back people. [0:30:02, 0:30:03]: It uh [0:30:05, 0:30:09]: Board, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. [0:30:10, 0:30:10]: So moved. [0:30:10, 0:30:12]: Ms. Barmer, is there a second? [0:30:14, 0:30:15]: Do I have a second, gentlemen? [0:30:16, 0:30:17]: Do I have a second? [0:30:18, 0:30:20]: Okay, Mr. Berry's second there. On fair please indicate. [0:30:21, 0:30:32]: All right. And now I need a motion to end w actually and uh we have nothing to report from our URA meeting at this time to the public. So I now need a motion to end our URA meeting, please. [0:30:33, 0:30:43]: Ms. Barber to Mr. Thomas. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you. Now the decision on that point. Our URA meeting is now adjourned. [0:30:44, 0:30:47]: Ladies and gentlemen, be uh be patient with us as we make an adjustment here to uh
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    --- title: Work Session date: 2024-09-24 source: 2024-09-24_Work_Session.wav --- [0:02:33, 0:02:36]: All right, council. [0:02:37, 0:02:38]: I have six seventeen. [0:02:40, 0:02:42]: I'd like to call our council work session to order. [0:02:44, 0:02:47]: for the Tuesday, September twenty fourth. [0:02:48, 0:02:50]: Invocation, uh [0:02:50, 0:02:52]: Mayor Pro Temberry, please. [0:02:53, 0:02:53]: Yeah, this one. [0:02:56, 0:02:57]: Please stand if you can. [0:03:01, 0:03:21]: Let us pray. Eternal God, our Father, we thank you tonight for allowing us to come together again to meet, to discuss the business of the city of Stockbridge and its constituents. Bless us, Lord God, and lead us, Lord God, to make the best decisions that we can make. That God that you would govern us and give us, Lord God, the peace of God which surpasses all understanding. And this will be. [0:03:21, 0:03:38]: We ask in the blessed name of your Son Jesus Christ we pray. Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance, pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, in the miserable liberty and justice. [0:03:39, 0:03:40]: Madam Clerk, Roll Call, please. [0:03:44, 0:03:45]: Present. [0:03:46, 0:03:55]: Present. Councilmember Alexander. Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:03:55, 0:04:12]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um Council, I'm gonna need the um amendment to the the agenda for a executive session to occur before we get into our actual presentation for real estate uh legal and personnel. [0:04:13, 0:04:19]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion to go into executive session for personnel, litigation, and real estate matters. [0:04:20, 0:04:24]: And it it would be after uh after our public comments, before our presentation. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: In real estate, right. [0:04:28, 0:04:33]: Is there a second to a motion? Second second. I've mr b I've got Mr. Berry here. Okay, all favor, please indicate. [0:04:34, 0:04:39]: Okay. Now on that note, I would like to have the adoption to the rest of the [0:04:39, 0:04:41]: A rest of the agenda, please. [0:04:41, 0:04:43]: So move. Is there a second? [0:04:44, 0:04:44]: A second. [0:04:45, 0:05:05]: Okay, Miss and Miss uh from Mr. Alexander to Miss Barber. I'll fair please indicate. All right, so what you have before you the review of the minutes, and this is a review, we'll actually approve these minutes at our next meeting next month. Review of the September 9th council meeting minutes, August 23rd, 22nd, and 21st, the budget retreat minutes, August 23th. [0:05:04, 0:05:21]: twenty seventh the council work session and August also August twelfth for the council meeting itself. And so if you have any comments or additions or subtractions, please get with the the clerk to do that prior to our next meeting when we approve this. Madam Clerk, we have any public comments at all? [0:05:22, 0:05:26]: Okay, on that note then now I need a motion to go into executive session, please. [0:05:26, 0:05:26]: Don't look. [0:05:27, 0:05:28]: Okay, that is for [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: Real estate personnel. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: Uh huh. [0:05:31, 0:05:36]: I move to go into executive session for personnel, litigation and real estate matters. [0:05:36, 0:05:40]: Thank you very much. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Barrett second all favor, please indicate. [0:05:40, 0:05:43]: Okay, we'll go into the degree station, ladies and gentlemen. We'll be back shortly. [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: Okay, good. [0:06:00, 0:06:03]: All right, council, I need to uh let's reconvene our [0:06:04, 0:06:05]: Council work session. [0:06:07, 0:06:09]: Um and yes, I need them. Yeah. [0:06:09, 0:06:18]: Need to reconvene it. Uh but uh what before I do that though, obviously we need to uh uh need a motion to end our second session, please. Oh [0:06:18, 0:06:31]: From m uh m mr m mr Thomas and Mr Berry, all in favor, please indicate. Well thank you very much. All right. On that note we have nothing to report from that executive session at this point for the public, so I need a motion to reconvene our [0:06:31, 0:06:48]: uh city work session please. So Mr. Alexander, second. Mr. Barring, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Now we'll continue on and what we have next would be our presentation. Park system plan presentation. Mr. Aaron, please, you're up, sir. [0:06:49, 0:06:52]: And it says here Mr. Peyton Peterson as well with T S W if he's here. [0:07:01, 0:07:08]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We have uh T S W here tonight to present the schematic designs for the City of Stockbridge Parks master plan. [0:07:10, 0:07:11]: All right, thank you. [0:07:21, 0:07:41]: Good evening. I'm Peyton Peterson. This is Anna Soji. Uh we're both with TSW Landscape Architecture. Tonight, as Mr. Decius said, we'll be presenting the um three parks: Gardner, Clark, and Memorial, schematic design concepts, which is the last phase of work with the master. Um [0:07:41, 0:07:43]: um plan process that we've been working on. [0:07:45, 0:07:51]: And feel free during this presentation to ask any questions um while we're presenting. [0:07:52, 0:08:12]: This here is an overview of the three park locations. As you all are very familiar with, Clark, Gardner, and Memorial Parks. Clark and Gardner Park are on the north side of the downtown district. Memorial Park is on the south side. And you can see the existing [0:08:12, 0:08:21]: Reeves Creek Trail and MLK Heritage Trail that is running through some of these parks and connecting these three parks. [0:08:23, 0:08:28]: I'm gonna turn it over to Anna, who's gonna talk briefly about some community themes that you'll see throughout the parks. [0:08:32, 0:08:42]: Hello. Um like Peyton said, I want to start by talking about some of the community themes that came up um as we were beginning our research and design phase for the project. [0:08:43, 0:08:43]: Um [0:08:44, 0:09:02]: We started with this. Um, we want to start with this because we don't want these parks to feel like any park. We want them to feel uniquely Stockbridge and we want them to be a place of discovery, um, a place that weaves in the story of the place. Um, and so with that, we came up with four. [0:09:02, 0:09:04]: Um themes that are shown up here. [0:09:05, 0:09:06]: Um on the slide. [0:09:06, 0:09:12]: Um, and all of them apply to one or more of the three parks that we're talking about. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: So first we have railroad heritage. [0:09:15, 0:09:17]: Which of course is what [0:09:17, 0:09:20]: led to the early growth of Stockbridge as a community. [0:09:20, 0:09:40]: Um, this applies to all three parks because um all three parks are actually adjacent to the railroad. Um, so that would be a theme that kind of carries through um all three parks. Um secondly, we have the Tie Street neighborhood history. Um, so that includes both the people, um, like Martin Luther King Sr., who um originate. [0:09:40, 0:09:49]: From the Tye Street neighborhood, as well as the special places like the Floyd Street Baptist Church, Greenfront Cafe, and the historic Rosenwald School. [0:09:50, 0:09:59]: Um thirdly we have the upper Akmolji River basin, as well as the creeks that feed into that system, um, which is home to many unique um [0:09:59, 0:10:07]: aquatic species. And then finally we have um the Piedmont granite outcrops, which is a unique ecosystem to the region. [0:10:07, 0:10:15]: Um and of course is the the ecosystem of Panola Mountain um and also a historic industry of Stockbridge. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: I'm gonna turn it back to paint. Mm-hmm. [0:10:21, 0:10:21]: Thank you, Anna. [0:10:23, 0:10:43]: All right, the first park we're gonna be looking at is Clark Park. Um, the four vignettes that you see up on the screen, uh I'm not gonna talk much about these, but they're looking at programming, pedestrian circulation, view sheds, and parking of the proposed plan. Uh one of the major elements of Clark Park that we're looking to [0:10:43, 0:11:03]: um do is currently the northern side of Clark Park is heavily programmed with the southern side having less programming. There's a dog park on the south side, but for the most part most of the activity is on the northern side of the creek. So we're trying to spread that programming uh throughout the park. So additional [0:11:03, 0:11:23]: Distribution of programming on the south, bringing it on the south side as well, bringing it closer into downtown and providing a connection into downtown. With the pedestrian circulation, one of the things that we are trying to do is extend that MLK trail. So as it comes from downtown, [0:11:23, 0:11:43]: Town, it's connecting actually to this park, and it's serving as the central spine of this park with activities pulling off of it. And then from a parking standpoint, you have the existing parking at the conference center. We're looking at reconfiguring the park. [0:11:43, 0:11:59]: Parking lot on the northern side of the park for functionality purposes, but we're also looking at consolidating drive cuts on the south side along Davis Road. [0:12:00, 0:12:20]: reorient a new reconfigured parking lot, flex event space that can be open on a daily basis, but also be shut down for events. You'll see that here in a second. One thing to note, from a parking count standpoint, we're not losing any parking with this proposed plan. [0:12:23, 0:12:43]: Um, this is the master plan, and we'll dive into each section here. Uh zoom in in a second. But from a community themes, we're looking at the downtown history, railroad, heritage, MLK, senior legacy, and then Brush Creek, Upper Okmahoge River Basin. Um, for this part. [0:12:43, 0:13:03]: Park, the northern side, as you can see in this blow-up, um, as I mentioned earlier, there's a lot of existing programming on the northern side of the park. There's an the existing parking lot labeled B here that we're reconfiguring. Um, there's an existing playground labeled H that we're expanding upon. And um [0:13:02, 0:13:22]: There's an existing restroom building that we're proposing removing and providing a new restroom building in plaza area labeled EF that can serve as community gathering space and sort of a welcoming node to this park. Going back to sort of the expanded upon expensive [0:13:22, 0:13:42]: existing playground. We have on the right side here where my cursor is, what is a gonna what we're proposing as a railroad themed playground. We have some perspectives of that in a second, but we heard from the community that pavilion space [0:13:42, 0:14:02]: Were highly desired from rentability purposes. If a family wants to have a family reunion or birthday party, smaller and clustered pavilions was preferred over the single large pavilion that's currently out there to date. So on a day-to-day basis, these shade structures are serving as [0:14:02, 0:14:22]: Um areas where small um keep families can gather or kids can take rest in the shade, but they're clustered again so that if someone wants to rent out one or multiple, uh they can for an event. And each uh shade structure has a good vantage point of [0:14:22, 0:14:42]: Of the playground. And then lastly, on the northern portion of uh Clark Park, we heard from the community that there was a desire for a community garden. Um, and that is just south of the reconfigured parking lot labeled C with its own separate um. [0:14:42, 0:14:47]: Restroom and storage facility and potting shed labeled D. [0:14:50, 0:15:10]: Moving to the south side of the park here, um you can see the central spine, which is labeled K. And again, that extends up to the north side of the plant as well. But uh, this is the extension of the MLK trail, and the vision is to eventually uh or to connect this into downtown so that you have a uh [0:15:10, 0:15:30]: Direct connection path into your downtown district. As you come down from downtown along the MLK Trail, the dog park is still in, it's a little bit more uphill to get it out of the flood zone, but it's in that sort of bend of Davis Road and the south. [0:15:30, 0:15:50]: Southwestern portion of the site. We have a flex lawn space, open lawn space with shade structures and a restroom building that's labeled D, E, and F. And then to the right of the new restroom building, we have what is the Flex parking event space spillover. [0:15:50, 0:16:10]: Over which is labeled H. So again, on a day-to-day basis, that can be an open parking lot to serve the daily needs. But it poses the opportunity that you can shut that connection parking lot down at Parkwood. You would still have full access to the conference center parking lot, but you could shut the portion down. [0:16:10, 0:16:26]: that is labeled H for food additional food truck area or tent pop-ups, farmers markets and whatnot. So to spread out that programming because I know that the food trucks get very popular in that upper parking lot. [0:16:28, 0:16:40]: Um we also have the Brush Creek Trail, which is labeled A, that hopefully one day will extend to the neighborhood to the west. [0:16:41, 0:17:01]: Okay. Um the perspectives tell the story a little bit better than the plan view. So this here is looking at an aerial. Um you're on the south side of the park, looking at the MLK trail there, serving as the central spine through the space. Um you can see how it extends across Brush Creek to the northern portion of the [0:17:01, 0:17:21]: site. In the foreground here we have the flex parking lot with the showing how it can be set up for food trucks and that smaller bubble there. We have a tennis court proposed in this one of the things that came out of [0:17:21, 0:17:41]: Public engagement sessions during the mass and planning phase was to have some active recreation in this park. So we do have a tennis court here. Um you can see the flex lawn in the middle there labeled D with um open-air pavilions, again, rentable pavilions um flanking it, and then [0:17:41, 0:17:57]: in the new restroom building on the other side of the lawn. I do want to mention that you'll see brick sort of paving material at major nodes throughout the park. And that materiality is tying back into your downtown architecture. [0:18:00, 0:18:20]: This perspective here is uh looking as if you're on Brush Creek Trail, you'd be coming from the west, um, and it's the intersection of the MLK Senior Trail and Brush Creek Trail. I think this is um um from a vantage point uh you can see how the brick here identifies on the ground plane as [0:18:20, 0:18:40]: A node on a decision-making point. So you could go to the right there and go to downtown, or you can go to the left to the northern portion of the park. We have a little bit more ground-level views of the open-air shade structures and restroom pavilion. And then [0:18:40, 0:19:00]: And uh one of the major concerns that we heard from you all about Brush Creek was that there are snake issues. So we wanted to provide a uh fence barrier to keep people out of the creek area. Um, but we're also proposing uh restoration of that creek um creek bed. [0:19:03, 0:19:23]: This here is looking at the main entrance to on the northern side of Clark Park. You can see the restroom building. All the restroom buildings have the same footprint, so it's a prototype that can be applied throughout all the parks. There's an open air. [0:19:23, 0:19:43]: Air passageway through the middle, and the restrooms actually flank that central sort of paseo there. What that provides us is the opportunity to do some sort of community art and uh storytelling on that blank, what would otherwise be a blank wall. So labeled B. [0:19:43, 0:19:53]: here, um tying again back to the railroad three theme, we would have some sort of mural or collage uh telling the story of Stockbridge's railroad history. [0:19:55, 0:20:15]: You can see here in front of that restroom building we have the patio space that can serve as spillover area for the food truck festivals, for outdoor cafe tables and chairs. And then off behind the [0:20:15, 0:20:18]: The restroom building is the expanded playground space. [0:20:21, 0:20:41]: This here is back on the south side, just the lower eye-level view of the main entrance to the park along MLK Trail. We have a gateway signage serving as a threshold into the park. To the left is the dog park, where there would be multiple entrances off this main spot. [0:20:41, 0:20:58]: And then in the foreground you can see we're using landscaping and a low seat wall to serve as a edge restraint or barrier between the open flex lawn area and the new parking lot. [0:21:02, 0:21:22]: Um going back to Northside, this is the expanded upon playground area. I mentioned uh we are looking at doing railroad uh theme for this playground. This uh is not over the top like Disney World, but we are looking at having some sort of uh ties back to the the local history of Stockbridge. [0:21:22, 0:21:42]: From a play element standpoint, you can see the clusters of open shade structures there that are fronting the playground, also fronting for this one in the bottom right corner, the open lawn space between the playground and the creek. So you can see how someone could. [0:21:42, 0:21:47]: [1310.7, 1330.7]: Moving on to Memorial Park. Currently, Memorial Park is on the west side of the creek there. This plan is looking at not only that side, but the eastern side of the creek, which is currently the transfer. [0:22:10, 0:22:30]: First station property. So what you'll see with that side of the park would have to be acquired. Um, but uh from a programming standpoint, uh as you all know, currently off Wilson Street, you immediately enter a parking lot and the park is [0:22:30, 0:22:43]: south of that parking lot. We're trying to bring the park to the community a little bit better. Um and by doing that, we're trying to expand programming to Wilson Street. And [0:22:45, 0:23:05]: Activate that Wilson Street frontage. From a pedestrian circulation, we have a primary pathway flanking the programming here, running in a north-south orientation and connecting to the Reeves Creek Trail, as well as connecting over to the new site, which is east of uh the creek. From a parking count standpoint. [0:23:05, 0:23:25]: point, uh, we're actually getting a significant number of additional parking with this plan. Uh we have a total of 106. Currently you guys have 48. We're getting 168. So 120 additional parking stalls. 76 of those would be new spaces on the east side. So even if the east side did not happen immediately. [0:23:25, 0:23:29]: you still are getting a surplus of parking with this new design. [0:23:31, 0:23:51]: Um, this is the overall plan. We'll dive into west and east here in a second. Uh, you can see existing to date, you have the existing trail system that is running through the woods down here on the south side and the existing Reeves Creek Trail. Um, those are to remain. The lawn space here in the middle. [0:23:51, 0:24:11]: Middle, which currently has a basketball court on it. Basketball court is getting relocated closer to Wilson Street to again activate that frontage and then bring the neighborhood into the park and the park to the neighborhood. But the lawn space would be a flex lawn, but it is sized to handle a soccer field or a football field if need be. [0:24:11, 0:24:21]: but we're thinking on a day-to-day basis it would just be Flex Lawn. There's a series of pavilions that flank that lawn and a restroom building. [0:24:22, 0:24:42]: And you can see sort of on the east side we're proposing a um splash pad and restroom building separate um from the west. So diving into the west plan here, um the parking lot is getting oriented more in a north-south fashion, again to allow us to bring programming up to Wilson Street. So [0:24:42, 0:25:02]: So when you first enter off Wilson Street, there's an entrance plaza and a gateway lawn space, small area for picnics, and just to add some greenery along the Wilson Street edge. We have the relocated basketball court seating area with shade structures. [0:25:02, 0:25:15]: There's the existing playground area which is labeled G, and we're expanding upon it. And the existing pavilion, which is just to the left of label H is to remain. [0:25:17, 0:25:33]: On the east side uh Memorial Park, this is the um new uh parking lot area and a new um regional sort of splash pad area with restroom building. And we'll dive into those in a second. [0:25:35, 0:25:55]: Uh this perspective here is looking at the uh relocated basketball court. Again, providing shade structures uh for shade seating that's serving as sort of a edge restraint so that ball the balls aren't going out into the parking lot. We're far enough from the parking lot that that shouldn't be an issue, um, but provides [0:25:55, 0:26:15]: Some extra seating there. The mural you're seeing on the actual court itself. Obviously, we would like to work with a local artist to come up with a design for that, but we think that this is a good opportunity to bring some color into the space on the basketball court itself and brand the court with the Stockbridge logo. [0:26:15, 0:26:35]: at uh the center there off in the distance. Um you can see the existing trail. That is an existing trail that kind of goes up the hillside there on the right. But then we have the existed existing expanded upon playground labeled C in the restroom building labeled D off in the background. One thing [0:26:35, 0:26:53]: to note along this edge of the parking lot between the main um promenade walk, pedestrian walkway, uh in the programming is parallel parking spots, which could be also serve as uh festival pop-ups or food trucks if you guys ever decide to have something hosted at Memorial Park. [0:26:56, 0:27:16]: Um this is looking at the uh restroom building expanded upon playground area. Um really very similar to what you saw in Clark Park. We're just pr trying to provide a restroom building immediately to the playground space so that children and families don't have to go too far uh to get to the restroom. [0:27:16, 0:27:36]: And then also provide some sort of outdoor um cafe tables and chairs associated with that structure in case a family wants to bring lunch or something and spend the entire day at the park. For this uh specific restroom building, uh we were looking at the Tie Street neighborhood theme as sort of [0:27:36, 0:27:41]: sort of the historic mural um and storytelling that could happen on the restroom wall. [0:27:43, 0:27:46]: I'm gonna turn it over to Anna who's gonna talk a little bit about the uh splash pad. [0:27:49, 0:28:00]: Okay. So we are now on the other side of the creek, um, the east side of the the property. Um, as Peyton said, so we're looking at the splash pad. [0:28:00, 0:28:04]: And um this is kind of an aerial view showing um [0:28:05, 0:28:06]: The [0:28:06, 0:28:07]: The boardwalk. [0:28:07, 0:28:09]: Um crossing the creek from the east side. [0:28:10, 0:28:10]: Um [0:28:11, 0:28:31]: We have the parking lot, um, expanded parking lot area here and a splash pad, um, as well as restroom building to relate to the splash pad so that, you know, again, people who are using the splash pad don't have to travel very far um to to use the restroom. Um this restroom building is um would be a communal or [0:28:30, 0:28:45]: I'm sorry, these would be single call restrooms, six single-sall uh restrooms in this building. And um similarly to the other restroom buildings, we have um a community art wall on this one with this um [0:28:45, 0:28:51]: Positioning of of the splash pad and the restroom building being uh right by the brush creek. [0:28:51, 0:28:55]: Or I'm sorry, Reeves Creek. Um our theme here is the Reeves Creek and the [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: Akmalje river basin. [0:28:57, 0:28:58]: Um [0:28:59, 0:29:06]: We also have that same theme for the splash pad, uh, where we're celebrating kind of a riparian woodland theme. Um [0:29:08, 0:29:17]: And the splash pad would be approximately four thousand square feet, which would accommodate up to four hundred children um at capacity. [0:29:17, 0:29:23]: Um and we can see a little bit more detail of the splash pad in these images. Um [0:29:24, 0:29:44]: As you can see, we have some fun, artful um kind of structures that both serve as shade as well as components of the splash pad that kind of mimic the uh environment of that riparian woodland. We also have um splash pad structures that celebrate some of the unique aquatic features. [0:29:44, 0:30:04]: That would be found in that environment. We have landscaping as well as artificial turf mounds at the edges of the splash pad to provide both kind of an edge for the space between the parking lot and the actual play area, as well as areas for seat. [0:30:04, 0:30:16]: seating and for parents to stand and sit and watch their children as they play. And you can see a little bit of the pavilion clustering that would happen at the edge of the splash pad as well. [0:30:20, 0:30:40]: Thanks, Hanna. And uh just a note also on the restroom building here at the splash pad, one of the reasons that we were looking at single stalls for this guy would be so that they could also serve as changing rooms for the splash pad. Uh we're thinking that the other restrooms that are this is the same footprint as the other restrooms, but the other restrooms [0:30:40, 0:30:42]: Firms would be more communal style. [0:30:43, 0:30:50]: I'm sorry to interrupt you. I I got a question about that um splash pad. Maybe I'm out of midst it. Just a curiosity thing. Where's the water coming from? [0:30:51, 0:31:11]: Yeah, so this would have to be um a water line that's brought in um from probably it would probably be an extension from the other side of the park or come off of um the road that is just north of here. Um we haven't gotten quite into the details of [0:31:11, 0:31:27]: that yet, but it would be a a potable water line that came into um the splash pad here. Obviously splash pad wouldn't be potable, but um you can do a flow through system or a recycling, recirculating system. We've done them both ways before. [0:31:29, 0:31:32]: All right. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. [0:31:35, 0:31:55]: Um this view is standing on the boardwalk that goes over Reeves Creek, looking back towards the Flex Lawn uh space. And you can see again open shade structures serving as shade pavilions, rentable pavilions, and um the clustering of them and how they're fronting both the flex lawn and [0:31:55, 0:32:02]: And the uh primary promenade walk that connects through the Reeves Creek Trail. So they're dual sided. [0:32:04, 0:32:24]: Okay. Um moving over to Gardner Park. Um from a programming standpoint, uh we have a lot of active recreation being um added to Gardner Park uh with pickleball courts. Uh one of the things that was uh [0:32:24, 0:32:44]: primarily the main difficulty with this park and what drove a lot of the spatial planning that you'll see in a moment was access, particularly as it relates to ADA access. Um so the parking lot which is currently on a large hill, sloped hill, as you all know, is getting [0:32:44, 0:33:04]: Relocated to run parallel to East Alena Road and align the entrance using utilizing the existing entrance of the parking lot, but it's a loop system. So the second entrance is actually aligned with Taylor Drive from a pedestrian circulation. The outer loop sidewalk. [0:33:04, 0:33:24]: of the park will remain mostly as is, but we have this spine running uh north-south here that is essentially serving as the spine of with the activity zones for the sports courts coming off of it. [0:33:24, 0:33:44]: And then going down to a lower playground area here. So with the parking, we are currently you guys do have 12 or 20 parking stalls with this existing parking lot that's on the hill. The reconfigured parking lot only has 15. [0:33:44, 0:34:03]: So we are losing some parking, but uh we're providing a trail connection to Cochrane Park on the other side of the creek here. Um and we actually think a lot of people will utilize that spillover parking area in Cochrane Park to access the lower portion of this park here. [0:34:05, 0:34:25]: So better connectivity to Cochrane parking with this. So this is the overall plan here. You can see how this parking lot is working off East Atlanta Road. And the configuration of this, what this allows us to get is dedicated ADA parking. [0:34:25, 0:34:45]: that um can be accessible to both the tennis courts and this larger pickleball court. So this one pickleball court um here at the bottom is an ADA friendly pickleball court so it's a little bit larger. We have a central restroom building here that has three restrooms. [0:34:44, 0:35:04]: Rooms and some storage. And then we have a upper pickleball court that's at the top of the hill. You'll see there's a lot of grade change happening here. So currently there's about a 10-foot wall, as you all know, that's holding up this existing parking lot. We're trying to break that wall down. [0:35:04, 0:35:12]: and make it much more pedestrian uh friendly from uh navigational purposes and view sheds. [0:35:13, 0:35:27]: Um and then off to the top here we have a natural sort of Panola Mountain Piemont granite um outcrop playground area themed area and then a new bridge in connection to Cochrane Park. [0:35:31, 0:35:51]: Uh this view here is a perspective of pulling in um off of East Atlanta Road. Again, this drive alignment here is utilizing the existing curb cut on East Atlanta Road, so that is in the same location, but instead of traversing up the steep hill and parking about where my cursor is, we're parking down low. [0:35:51, 0:36:11]: Um everything tennis courts are on the same grade as the parking lot uh in the ADA stalls. There's a um ramp that comes up on the side of the restroom building that gets you access to uh the B pickleball court, and then you can see. [0:36:11, 0:36:15]: See off in the distance there the existing uh pavilions. [0:36:16, 0:36:23]: that are to remain. Uh this view here is looking from the top of the hill. Um [0:36:24, 0:36:44]: as if you're coming down uh or a little bit high bird's eye level over the sidewalk from the existing pavilions coming down towards the tennis courts. Those tennis courts I should mention are existing. Um but you can see sort of the layering going on here with the sports courts. You have two pickleball courts flanking a s a central axis [0:36:44, 0:37:04]: uh series of stairs um that is on centered with the tennis courts as the focal point terminating that um sidewalk access there. Uh behind this restroom building and sort of centrally located amongst the three sports courts is a small outdoor um area where [0:37:04, 0:37:24]: there would be tables and chairs for resting or waiting until a sports court open opens up. Um I was joking with Mr. Ford Mayor Ford that that's where I would be after a short round of tennis or pickleball because I'm out of shape. So I would be sitting here viewing uh the sports uh other people [0:37:24, 0:37:25]: [2247.2, 2267.2]: This here is looking the opposite direction. Um, looking up the hill here, you can see because there's such grade change between the tennis courts and that upper sort of pavilion area, we're really trying to um alleviate some of that grade by doing a series of [0:37:47, 0:38:07]: pair of stairs as opposed to one large um staircase. What this allows is a much more pedestrian-friendly experience and view sheds that are open and more advantageous to seeing all the sports courts from one vantage point. [0:38:07, 0:38:27]: So again, this is just looking at this sort of break area behind the restroom building that's centrally located between the sports courts. If you traversed up the stairs and continued on that path, you'd eventually end up at the uh uh existing pavilion cluster at the top of the hill. And then we're thinking that this lower seat wall. [0:38:27, 0:38:33]: again is a way to work with the local artist to provide some sort of mural or artwork in the space. [0:38:37, 0:38:57]: Uh this here is the um natural play area, Panola Mountain Piedmont Granite outcrop sort of inspired. Um this is on the uh downhill side of the tennis court. The existing loop here is kind of in between the tennis court. [0:38:57, 0:39:17]: In this new playground area. There's an existing playground area just to the left of this uh view here. So we're kind of expanding off of that. Um, and you can see from a proposal standpoint where we have sort of these log climber theme um play equipment pieces. [0:39:16, 0:39:36]: pieces as well as bouldering pieces uh that are more for climbing. And then we're thinking that we we're thinking that there's going to be granite from construction that is going to be repurposed as sort of seat walls or seat boulders around the edges. [0:39:36, 0:39:45]: Of the playground. The large boulder you see labeled E itself is actually um reinforced concrete type structure. [0:39:47, 0:40:06]: And um a local example, if you guys want to see a local example of what this boulder can look like, E, uh, we recently completed a project in downtown Douglasville at um the Gray Graystone Amphitheater that has two of these guys. And they they are kids are always climbing all over'em. [0:40:08, 0:40:28]: Um this is just a uh eye level perspective coming down the central path there. Um you can see again uh we're trying to break break down those steep grades, um much more gradual transition between the tennis courts and upper area pickleball courts on either side. [0:40:28, 0:40:39]: side here in uh some sort of wayfinding signage, uh directing people where they are or where they uh with a map and where they may want to go. [0:40:41, 0:40:55]: So Anna touched based on this a little bit with her themes earlier. From an architectural standpoint, the vernacular we're using is tying back to the Greenfront Cafe. [0:40:55, 0:41:15]: Excuse me. In the Rosenwald schools. Um, so you'll see we have the um the pitched roof uh gabled um type uh architecture for the restroom pavilions with um the restrooms actually flanking the central sort of chase here. [0:41:15, 0:41:16]: [2478.8, 2498.8]: Um and from a materiality standpoint, our architects are thinking fiber cement siding, woodlook soffit on top, uh standing seam metal roof and um brick cladding at the base of the restroom building. Uh you can see again here sort of [0:41:38, 0:41:58]: the open area between what would be dedicated men's, women's, uh, family restroom for the majority of the structures. But in the top right here we have what the layout would look like for the one rest larger restroom building associated with the splash pad. [0:41:58, 0:42:08]: and how those restrooms are individual for changing room purposes. Each restroom has uh storage on the backside of each wing there. [0:42:11, 0:42:31]: And then this here is the small restroom building that you just saw as part of Gardner Park. This is uh three individual stalls with storage wrapping um sort of centrally of the building there. Um [0:42:31, 0:42:49]: Architecturally, it relates back s uh stylistically to the larger restroom. On the back side here, there's a built-in bench because this is the area where that sort of resting uh table space is uh for the outdoor seating that's centrally located amongst the sports courts there. [0:42:52, 0:43:12]: And then this is the garden shed with two restrooms, individual stalls that is associated with the community garden back at Clark Park. So on the back side, the side that actually opens up to the community garden, we have uh an extended roof line for shade. [0:43:12, 0:43:28]: where people can pot their plants. Um and then this is a garage door that rolls up so you can actually have a wheelbarrow or something else, shovels um, or potting stations inside this back of this building. [0:43:31, 0:43:51]: Um from a family of signage, uh we're looking at a couple of different signs, wayfinding signage, you are here type maps on this, and then park identifier sign. The park identifier signs would be at the main entrances, um, highlighting um the again the main entrances. [0:43:51, 0:43:56]: to the park from both uh vehicular and trail standpoints. [0:43:58, 0:44:18]: Okay, cost. Um so the the bottom line here, the park system master plan total um numbers you're seeing at the very bottom are the costs that were generated by our cost consultant during the master plan phase. Um [0:44:18, 0:44:38]: And the numbers above are our most recent cost estimations that are based on these plans that you just saw. And you can see the breakdown above. But generally speaking, we're pretty much in line with the park system master plan total. So Clark Park, we're actually [0:44:38, 0:44:58]: Actually coming um a little under the what the park system master plan total was five, four fifty five hundred thousand under. And that's because we took some of the um active recreation pickleball courts out of Clark Park, just because from a uh fitting and working with the site layout, it worked. [0:44:58, 0:45:18]: Work better at Gardner Park. So that's why that number is a little bit lower, and why Gardner Park you see here is a little bit higher because we actually added programming to Gardner Park during this phase that otherwise was not part of the master planning process phase when it was priced. Memorial Park is [0:45:18, 0:45:38]: Is about right on what was anticipated during the master plan um process. Also with Gardner Park, the master plan total uh did not include uh land acquisition and [0:45:38, 0:45:50]: And one of the reasons that this final total number is a little higher is because it's looking at uh land acquisition for a small parcel on the south side of Gardner Park. [0:45:51, 0:45:56]: If you guys do choose to do that. We haven't planned we haven't designed anything there to date. [0:45:58, 0:46:14]: Um that wraps up our presentation. I'm happy to flip back through to anything specific if you guys have questions, comments. Yeah, um that thank you for the presentation. I'd imagine obviously we would have to phase this in certain time to phases here in this aspect as well. But on that note, uh huh. [0:46:15, 0:46:35]: No, no, it's a cow. Okay. Good go ahead who's you you got something, sir? Oh go go ahead, Mr. Alexander. Uh I certainly am ex I I certainly am excited about what I see. Mr. Gardner, will you come up here please? We was uh uh the park's master plan I thought was supposed to include new park space as well. [0:46:34, 0:46:47]: in terms of uh us uh the park space that we're acquiring, especially in the south side of the city with the new parkland that we have acquired, I only see the existing parks being represented here. [0:46:47, 0:47:00]: So this was done prior to us acquiring getting access to that property through the the Henry County Water Authority. So that's the reason why this wasn't incorporated when this was being done and when they presented this. [0:47:00, 0:47:04]: It was happening. We had not acquired that property until last month. [0:47:04, 0:47:24]: Right, I certainly am a supportive of what I see already, but I thought our original scope was we were looking to identify new parkland, we were looking at pocket parks, a very just broad range of the things that we're gonna kinda do in the city. But certainly I'm very impressed with what I see in terms of the trail acquisition. [0:47:24, 0:47:31]: They should have been with Eric Canta. [0:47:35, 0:47:35]: The course. [0:47:37, 0:47:39]: This was a long time ago. [0:47:43, 0:48:03]: I wasn't specifically involved with the master planning process, but the um TSW uh did have stakeholder groups where they met with um various stakeholders and I'm fairly positive and confident in saying that they met with path um with the existing trails and how the best way looking at opportunities to extend those existing trails. [0:48:03, 0:48:07]: trails um to create that trail network plan for Stockbridge. [0:48:07, 0:48:15]: Yeah, as far as that's concerned, you certainly need to look at the plan and may make that available to him. The plan the downtown plan that has been developed. [0:48:28, 0:48:48]: Yes. We'll we'll be sure to um get in touch. I'm supportive of where where we are right now, but I I I just want to see the re the south side of the city represented in our areas uh as well. And as long as we can go along and do that. And Mr. Gardner, has that that that's already been solidified now so we can talk about [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: About it. [0:48:50, 0:48:50]: Yeah. [0:48:50, 0:48:53]: Has it been solidified now so we can talk about it? [0:48:53, 0:48:54]: The [0:48:54, 0:49:02]: The acquisition of the parkland? Yes. Yes. We've we've signed the agreement. Um the mayor signed the agreement as instructed by council. [0:49:02, 0:49:06]: Uh so we we now have access to that property. [0:49:06, 0:49:26]: So that's something that I just mentioned to um prior to coming coming up here I'd mentioned to the dashes. I said I don't think our twelve acre site on s on off of Eagles Island is included. So that's something that obviously we'll be working with TSW um to formulate uh one, we're gonna have to have community meetings. [0:49:26, 0:49:31]: um to talk about what you know what folks want to see in that area. [0:49:31, 0:49:51]: Um so we're gonna open it up to having some community meetings in that area um to get an idea of what they wanna see on the twelve acres and then how we program those twelve acres as part of this program part project. But then furthermore, how do we utilize some of the dollars that we have already identified as part of our splots to make to make the start to start this. [0:49:51, 0:49:53]: process happened to make some of that happen as well. [0:49:55, 0:50:15]: Well as that while we're connecting and I'm sure the stakeholders, I think we went down this line of making sure everybody was on the same page. And you know, we got the wayfinding group working on specific, very identifiable signage. So in this park they have a park sign and that is what [0:50:14, 0:50:34]: Well, as for the trail. So I want to make sure that everybody is on the same page. They're meeting with Sky Design to talk about what those designs are gonna look like. So they're not they're they're consistent with what we see along the roadside, and that they because the designs that they've come up with from Sky are [0:50:34, 0:50:49]: And we certainly want to incorporate that in a parking lot. So any few recognized it when when you guys approved the sky design for for the wayfinding signage, we did approve signages for our existing parks, they which are all consistent. [0:50:49, 0:51:03]: So any new park that comes online, that's the signage that's gonna be attributed to those new parks as they come online. Um that same program that we've already identified for Gardner Park, for um for Memorial Park and for Cochran. [0:51:04, 0:51:24]: Right. So I specifically want meetings set up with you all and Path Foundation and Mr. Gantther and a a just specific meeting to talk about how this works together and then the secondary meeting um with Sky Design. Well they don't have to meet with Sky Design. Because remember you guys have already approved the sign pocket. [0:51:24, 0:51:42]: And that sign package. So once once we get new sign once we get the parks, um the signage we already have the the signage approved for those existing parks to change them out. Okay. So any new park that we have, including the one um in Mr. Berry's district on e on um [0:51:43, 0:52:03]: Off of Eagles Landing and the current park that we just acquired over on Canler Road, when we start that program, those are how those signages will be in line with each of the existing parks that we have now. Right. And that was gonna be the next step. So [0:52:03, 0:52:23]: We're going through now and getting that happened to make sure that that program gets moving. Because obviously we have some funding that's tied with a clock ticking on it to get that going, Opera funds. So we making sure we get those monies allocated so we don't have to return them back to the federal government. Um so we're gonna get that program is starting. So definitely [0:52:23, 0:52:41]: This p all of our existing parks, what they put Sky Design presented to you guys was signage for all of our parks that are consistent, for all of our wayfinding that's consistent, for our entry level that's consistent. So any new parks, whether we acquire today or 10 years down the road, will follow that program. [0:52:42, 0:53:02]: Okay, and now as you mentioned the existing park, the new park that we have open now on Kendler Road, which is not just a dog park. I know we all shouldn't say that, but we have acreage, we have enough space over there to do some active stuff uh as well. I know we have the and the one thing that I did not see is what we have. [0:53:02, 0:53:22]: have at Rees Creek Trail, which is the outside exercise equipment. That is something that has really worked out great over at Rees Creek Trail and certainly should send out the message all over the city, especially in the newer parks. They the park on Canler Road would be perfect for that outside. [0:53:22, 0:53:42]: exercise equipment along with maybe even again a pickleball court or something active to go along with that, but certainly to make sure that we uh are incorporating and taking advantage of the land we own it because the developer uh donated to us uh with the uh logistics project that they worked on. [0:53:42, 0:53:57]: So you all coming to the table and assisting us with programming that part, which is open now, would certainly be inclusive. Cause right now FIFA call it the dog part, but it's not just the dog part. There's so many other opportunities for it. Thank you. [0:53:58, 0:54:00]: Any other questions, Council? [0:54:00, 0:54:03]: Also, um kudos you guys. Yeah, put your mic on, sir. [0:54:05, 0:54:08]: Kudos to you guys'cause I love what you presented and um [0:54:08, 0:54:19]: Really excited to see it come to life. Um I think y'all captured the essence a lot of the essence of uh what Stockbridge is historically and have tied all of that in. I I really love how [0:54:19, 0:54:35]: that was brought together. Uh just as uh Councilman Alexander said, I'm also looking forward to what you're gonna do with the next stuff, the next projects as well. So um just hats off, nothing negative to say here. Just really enjoy the the um schemes and everything that you laid out for us. [0:54:35, 0:54:36]: Thank you. [0:54:37, 0:54:40]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead. Go ahead, please. [0:54:41, 0:54:52]: I'm I'm going to uh agree with what's been said. It's beautiful. Um my concern though is how do we fund this and how do we [0:54:53, 0:54:54]: Um [0:54:54, 0:55:00]: prioritize for each park the step by step [0:55:00, 0:55:07]: and the implementation. Uh wh what's what's the bottom line for all of the renovation for the all three parks? [0:55:08, 0:55:09]: For all three [0:55:12, 0:55:17]: Again, this includes some land acquisition. Um eighteen and a half. [0:55:18, 0:55:20]: Eighteen five six three? Yes. [0:55:21, 0:55:41]: So, Mr. Gardner, sort of share with us your ideals of how we uh begin to fund and how do we uh begin to implement um each power. [0:55:41, 0:55:45]: instrumentally, how how how do we how do we take the first step? [0:55:47, 0:55:57]: Well, so you guys haven't adopted this yet, so in terms of sitting down and going through the action plan of how we're gonna ta tackle this eighteen point five million? Um [0:55:58, 0:56:12]: Don't have that yet. But what I will say is w we did fund as part of our upcoming SPLOSS program, we did put funding in there for our parks to make improvements in our parks and I forget how much that money is. [0:56:12, 0:56:13]: Um [0:56:14, 0:56:24]: So that's gonna help get the ball rolling. And also how do we leverage that with obviously some additional funding from outside to make some of the stuff happen. But you recognize that this [0:56:24, 0:56:27]: What you see before you is not a to mo it's not a [0:56:29, 0:56:31]: Next year plan. This is a [0:56:32, 0:56:44]: twenty or fifteen year horizon plan and so you're gonna have multiple opportunities to fund these projects to make them come to fruition. It's not something that's gonna happen in five years. There's just no way to any jurisdiction [0:56:45, 0:56:55]: You know, could make something like this accomplish this in a five year window. So this is definitely your long term master plan for the next ever still rising on this plan, I think is it twenty fifteenth? [0:56:56, 0:56:57]: So [0:56:58, 0:57:18]: It's 20. That includes all the paths. All of the pods and everything. So that's you're talking about a 20-year plan horizon, kind of similar to your comprehensive plan, right? Which is a 20-year horizon. But what we can do and what we will do is shrink this down into a implementation plan, kind of what we're doing with the trail system, and say, okay. [0:57:18, 0:57:38]: Okay, what makes sense? Do we start where we could get the most bang for our book, which is usually how you should start? And how do we do that? Is that something that we concentrate on all three parks? What specific projects out of this out of this plan can we plug into the funding source that we get to start making some things happen in each of the parks? [0:57:38, 0:57:42]: So there's equity.'Cause I know that's probably because every park is not located in everybody's district. [0:57:43, 0:57:49]: Right. Um so how do we get equity? The most of our parks currently are stationed in district four and [0:57:50, 0:58:10]: I mean Ms. Barber's district in your district, right? Um, and so with the onlining of uh Kandler Road in Mr. Um Alexander's district, and now with the the um park in Mr. Berry's district, you know, how do we start to make sure we get those parks up and coming? Well, right now [0:58:10, 0:58:16]: Now we know Kennedy Road is pretty much done. We had private investment that made a lot of that happen. [0:58:16, 0:58:36]: in case of Mr the Park and Mr. Berry's district, there is no funding, right? So we've we've got to identify how do we get that. But until the only way we'll know is once we start having those public meetings with the community and getting their feedback and our designers now put that into those design, those requests into [0:58:36, 0:58:56]: a program as you've seen here and then cost it out, will we know what that 12 acres is going to be, what that total cost is going to be, and how we're going to program that 12 ac that 12 acres over time. But that's that's what we're going to, we're going to we're going to look at this and we're going to condense this down and say, hey, how do we get some things happen with the funding that we have? [0:58:56, 0:59:14]: And that's gonna be a f a three a one to five year ratio uh years to get this stuff done. Cause remember our S Plus is six. So we can start making some things happen that people will see, feel in touch. So we know that when the next year comes, we're programming another chunk of our program, our S Plus monies towards this. [0:59:17, 0:59:37]: For the sake of time, I'm not gonna drill down in into Memorial Park. I I think the the rendering presentation is great. I I think Memorial Park may have the the biggest challenge, um, simply because of the issue with uh with parking and and and the creek, but um [0:59:37, 0:59:38]: Yeah. [0:59:38, 0:59:58]: I'm going to look at this a little closer and I do have some question, but again, because of the sake of time, I I really just won't get into it now. But um I'm I do like what I see. I I just I know it's gonna be a challenge. Go ahead, Mr. Garner. And and and the other part too, that that we can [0:59:58, 1:00:05]: could put piggyback off of for additional funding is that area is still considered [1:00:05, 1:00:25]: Uh the block grant. Underserved block grant, which means we can then channel C D B G monies on an annual basis to getting some of these projects happening. Right. We did that in East Point. We utilize our portion of our C D B G monies and then all went all of our CDBG money went to POX. So that's in essence where we could start making [1:00:25, 1:00:45]: And because that area we know qualifies, we can start funding those money just. So we got multiple ways of getting ready. Right. Right. Right. Sir. Go right ahead, please. Thank you. May I give you a little bit of a little bit more. This has been on our table now for over a year. Certainly I think what we need to do is we need to although this [1:00:44, 1:01:04]: This is concept, and certainly things can change. We know that, right? But we we need to really go ahead and approve this portion of the plan, understanding that the concepts are going to change so that we can lock down some of this to move forward so we can go to the next step. [1:01:04, 1:01:24]: County undertook their plan, they passed it within six months. We've been working on this since COVID, about two and it took over two years now. We need to go ahead and move forward with this portion and then task them with the new parks and the additional work. But this portion right here, I think we need to go ahead and um [1:01:24, 1:01:44]: It's f it's phenomenal. We understand that uh that the uh the funding is certainly gonna be a challenge. And I know that we have some some of the trail segments are already in the T Splost already. So some of the trail segments, the funding is already there uh to to uh help implement some of those. And I think we have some [1:01:44, 1:02:04]: Some over we should end up with some overages in many of these categories on our SPLOS and on our T SPLOST to be able to invest in this. And I think some of the communities have endeavored to enter into a comprehensive bond plan to finance. [1:02:04, 1:02:24]: parks over an extended period of time so they could actually see some movement uh on projects like this instead of waiting, you know, 20 years to just go ahead and do that. I know what are you what what have you seen in that area, Mr. Gardner, in terms of communities making commitments to uh park plans. I know that was [1:02:24, 1:02:44]: was I think maybe Roswell or maybe one of the other cities had endeavored on like a 30 or 40 year plan. And they were there was uh some uh bond packages associated with it. So yes. Um so hopefully in the very near future, hopefully between now and and the and our next uh work [1:02:44, 1:03:04]: Session, my goal is to come to you with an opportunity to actually fund some of our major capital projects. And that's through utilizing something we heard today, special district, right? And that would help us really and truly move some projects forward. [1:03:04, 1:03:09]: Specifically dealing with special districts on commercial and industrial areas versus residential. [1:03:10, 1:03:27]: So I know for we uh we met recently a financial advisor myself um went met with a local jurisdiction in the metro area that actually implemented this. Um and they were able to fund a lot of programs through it, capital projects as well. [1:03:27, 1:03:36]: That's an a that's an opportunity for us to be able to raise some additional funding to make this happen on on top of what we're getting through SPLOS and through potential uh C D BG moneys. [1:03:36, 1:03:43]: So are you asking for some direction from the council and to go ahead and approve this tonight or what it Yes, sir. [1:03:44, 1:04:04]: So keep in mind this is a part of the master plan. The master plan does address parts in South, up in Eagles Landing. There's also one off Walt Stevens. There's also some parking parts. If you look at the master plan, this is a schematic plan for the current parts that we have, the improvements. [1:04:03, 1:04:16]: for that. But if you look at the overall master plan, it does address this new parks. So it just identified the areas where you were looking. One was in the Eagles Landing area, as I said, one was in Walt Stevens. [1:04:16, 1:04:23]: I think there's one off of Tide Street somewhere, but there are multiple new parts that are incorporated in the master plan. [1:04:23, 1:04:30]: But this is just a schematic plan that addresses the current parts you have that was pulled out of the overall master plan. [1:04:30, 1:04:43]: So uh councilman, what do you think? Uh is your district uh we uh we've asked or the city manager's asking for some um approval to move forward. Uh is your district like to make the motion or [1:04:43, 1:04:44]: What'd you like to do? [1:04:48, 1:04:52]: I I don't have an issue with the motion. Um [1:04:53, 1:05:13]: The reason I asked the question about the the the funding, and I know uh the community block grant fund will sort of assist Memorial Park for sure. I'm just not sure about the other park because and the reason I asked this question because the figure that I had in my head [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: uh with the m with the master plan was [1:05:17, 1:05:30]: Well over a hundred million dollars. And I understand, you know, twenty years. I do get that. So and I'm not sure what you want us to approve tonight because what I like to see though is a plan of how do we [1:05:30, 1:05:31]: What do we [1:05:32, 1:05:34]: Increment first. [1:05:34, 1:05:37]: What is what are the steps that we're going to take? So really [1:05:38, 1:05:40]: The question there is is out here. [1:05:42, 1:05:44]: And so by making a motion to accept this. [1:05:45, 1:05:46]: Let me ask you this this way. [1:05:47, 1:05:50]: So if we accept this plan tonight. [1:05:51, 1:06:03]: Where do we go from here? In order and I need to get a better understanding of where we go from here in order for me to make the motion. Right. So So so you expi you're you're you're approving the broad plan, right? [1:06:04, 1:06:24]: And so what I mentioned is when you said, Mr. Gardner, how are we gonna bite this? How how how are we gonna how are we gonna eat this, this, this, this, this, this elephant? And so that's where we're gonna condense this down to that one year to five year things that we wanna get accomplished and we know where we're getting the funding sources through, right? So we'll bring that back to you to say, hey, um councilman [1:06:23, 1:06:39]: members, this is how we're going to start to eat this elephant. We're going to start here, here, here, here, and here over the next five years. And this is what we want to do next year. So you'll see it annually. And that's just looking at it a little bit more strategically rather than rather than [1:06:40, 1:06:49]: trying to figure out how we gonna d uh digest it over twenty years, we'll show how we're gonna digest this over a five one to five year period. Right and and and see and what you say in that [1:06:50, 1:06:53]: That seems to be where the motion needs to be. [1:06:54, 1:07:14]: Uh as opposed to the day. So am I wrong in that assumption? You want you want to approve you want us to approve the this this overall plan, right? Okay. And then what we come back to you is the action, how we're going to now accomplish those things and how we're gonna do it. That's looking at it strategically over the next couple of years, how we're gonna eat this animal. So [1:07:14, 1:07:34]: Approved the broad plan so we could then go and cherry and pick strategically what we want to get done because we know that this has been approved. But then we just need you to come back and say, hey, here's our one-year window, here's our five-year window. These are the things we want to get accomplished, and here's how we're gonna get accomplished through what funding sources, whether it's PLOSS grants or if if council [1:07:34, 1:07:45]: does a special in uh t district. This is how we plan on funding these this five year project on an annualized basis. And then you approve that and then he he got him and his guys go to work. [1:07:45, 1:07:46]: Well [1:07:47, 1:08:02]: With that being said then, uh I will make the motion uh to accept the overall grand plan with the understanding that we will come back uh [1:08:04, 1:08:06]: And I don't know the time frame when we'll come back. [1:08:07, 1:08:11]: with the plan that you just mentioned coming back and condensing it down. [1:08:12, 1:08:17]: So before I com complete the m the motion, when will you when will you come back? [1:08:17, 1:08:19]: With that second [1:08:20, 1:08:40]: plan within the larger plan. So give us some time and obviously we we're all hoping that our splots is successful. I'm looking at our list and I think the list that we s did we approve forty five days. We put about I think it's between five to one six point one million dollars is what we put in the SPLOS for Splus Six. So [1:08:40, 1:08:50]: You you will come back to us in forty five days. I wanna come back to you guys um once you approve this. I I've probably uh meeting either in in f [1:08:51, 1:09:02]: I mean, we could we could once you approve this we could kinda pick some things that we want to identify. So give us probably the work session in um November. [1:09:03, 1:09:05]: How how many days is that? Oh gosh. [1:09:06, 1:09:13]: It's right around Thanksgiving by the same thing. So that's about that's about sixty sixty days, Madam Clerk. If you [1:09:14, 1:09:28]: Okay, so um I move that we accept the overall grand plan uh with the consideration that we will come back in sixty days to [1:09:29, 1:09:36]: create the incr incrementally uh plans uh to to move it forward. Second [1:09:37, 1:09:43]: Motion's been made in the second. Are there in further discussion? And if not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:09:44, 1:09:50]: C Nam's decision. Four. Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Fantastic. [1:09:51, 1:10:05]: All right. Consent agenda. Council consideration to approve the use of mural manners. And actual date is uh Meral Manners Conference uh for center for the police department annual awards gala, which is actually uh February eighth of twenty twenty five. [1:10:05, 1:10:06]: When I read the data there. [1:10:07, 1:10:14]: And also on the consent agenda is consideration for the approval of Lichy Commercial Construction Incorporated contract for court renovation. [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: And uh I would imagine this would be presented by Mr Gardner if we had to go any further discussion. [1:10:20, 1:10:22]: So that's on the Cassette Agenda Council? [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: Is there a motion to accept this? [1:10:27, 1:10:32]: Mr Marb ms um Maripotent said so moved. Is there a second? [1:10:33, 1:10:38]: I want to second that, but I might want to know what the court renovations are. [1:10:39, 1:10:39]: It's not. [1:10:40, 1:10:43]: Okay. Well f okay, f hold on. Uh Mr. Garner. [1:10:44, 1:10:50]: So at our at our budget retreat, I think the court administrator talked about the fact of trying to fix the dice. [1:10:51, 1:10:57]: Um, expand some of the uses for the public as well as create a a bathroom for for the for the staff and [1:10:57, 1:11:07]: Um, that will impose capacity and assist the judge by moving the dice because the dice is too low, they wanna move the dice up, um, so he could get a better view of what's going on. So [1:11:08, 1:11:12]: Okay, sick. All right. No further discussion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:11:14, 1:11:19]: Unam s game a good okay. It's Unam's decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. [1:11:22, 1:11:34]: New business council's consideration to approve the new position accountant two and a reclassification of the senior accountant to accounting manager. Presented by Miss Gaines and Miss Wheeler, please. [1:11:35, 1:11:37]: Ladies, or lady. [1:11:38, 1:11:40]: How are you guys doing this evening? [1:11:42, 1:11:46]: Can you hear me? Okay, good. So I did a little bit of an amendment. [1:11:48, 1:11:51]: Um gotta see. Okay, good. So here [1:11:52, 1:11:58]: And this is briefly what we talked about at the retreat. So we're requesting the reclass of the senior accountant. [1:11:58, 1:12:02]: And then I'm asking for the new position of the accountant too. [1:12:05, 1:12:16]: But we've come to the conclusion that I should go ahead on and ask for the property tax specialist as well so that we can go ahead on and get these positions in and get them trained for the upcoming [1:12:18, 1:12:20]: Homestead exemptions. [1:12:21, 1:12:27]: So here I just excuse me, could you go back to the previous slide? I'm sorry. Because somehow you said you added I think there's [1:12:27, 1:12:30]: So no the what slide there [1:12:30, 1:12:35]: Okay, it's a little different because uh you said you wanted to make an amendment. Yes, sir. Okay, I see now. Okay, thank you. Yes, sir. [1:12:36, 1:12:56]: Um, we were kind of up in arms about, you know, the title of the position. So we finally m came to a conclusion that we're gonna call it the property tax specialist. And this person is gonna be in charge of, of course, receiving our property taxes and all things associated with that, as well as getting ready for the homestead applications and submission. [1:12:56, 1:12:59]: [4380.2, 4386.9]: So we wanna go ahead on and get these things approved and get the positions posted and maybe possibly higher. [1:13:08, 1:13:20]: So that's the only deviation from what you guys have is the property tax specialist. And here I just give a basic brief uh breakdown of what each individual person will additionally be doing. [1:13:21, 1:13:25]: In addition to helping with other things that go on in the finance department. Um [1:13:26, 1:13:34]: Yeah, forward. Yes, sir, go ahead, please. Uh if if I may, um I I do have a little concern about [1:13:35, 1:13:41]: Doing this now. Mm-hmm. Mayor, if it's okay, I'd like for Mrs. Wheeler to uh to come forward. I think she's back there. [1:13:51, 1:13:52]: Um [1:13:54, 1:14:06]: And and correct me if if um this if this is not pregnant to to this issue. Um my concern is [1:14:08, 1:14:10]: De [1:14:11, 1:14:17]: four time position of treasurer. And I just think that um [1:14:19, 1:14:27]: That person, whether it's the person that's the interim or a new person, that the process seemed to be to have. [1:14:28, 1:14:30]: That person in place [1:14:30, 1:14:37]: before we take on this. And I I thought we were doing this at some point in September. [1:14:37, 1:14:40]: But I see that it did not happen. So [1:14:40, 1:14:42]: But basically my c my concern is [1:14:44, 1:14:52]: I can't see moving forward with these positions without having the the the full-time treasure in place. [1:14:53, 1:14:59]: uh whether it's the interim now or it's someone else. So they will have some [1:15:00, 1:15:20]: input into this process. And and that's my concern today. A month from now, if we go through the process of interviewing and you know putting someone in permanent, then I'll feel okay in moving forward with this. But I just feel a little backwards [1:15:19, 1:15:25]: at this point to try to go forward with this and then you bring someone in. [1:15:25, 1:15:42]: Or if, let me put let me put a if on that, if you bring someone else in different and they didn't have the opportunity to be involved in this process, because cause it's very important. And that's my only concern about today, doing this today. [1:15:44, 1:15:50]: And I did read the um the job descriptions and [1:15:51, 1:16:03]: there were some things that I did not see in those job description that probably should be in, especially uh and I know Mrs. Gang, you mentioned with the uh exemption, [1:16:03, 1:16:06]: Um, but that should be, I think, foremost. [1:16:07, 1:16:11]: um in going forward. But I just have some some problem with [1:16:12, 1:16:13]: The process today. [1:16:16, 1:16:23]: I yield back, Mary. Oh, no problem, appreciate it. So otherwise, I think what you just asked about the job, the probably tax individual needs to have a job description. [1:16:23, 1:16:35]: designated for it before we approve it and we don't have that right now, is that correct? It has just been changed recently. Okay. One that was brought before you at the retreat was definitely [1:16:35, 1:16:36]: Okay. [1:16:37, 1:16:57]: The property tax specialist has just been changed recently. I mean, just in the last couple of days. Okay. So we originally brought forward in the at the budget retreat the accounting specialist. That was the title that was uh presented to you all at the budget retreat. That has since changed. [1:16:57, 1:17:15]: change to now they want to call it a property tax specialist because the major duties of that individual will be handling the tax, the homestead for at least 50% of their time will be spent doing that from January through April. [1:17:15, 1:17:20]: So that means that that the the the job description will have to come back forward to you when we present. [1:17:20, 1:17:26]: The budget. Okay. And the budget is presented to you, then that job description update will be given to you all. [1:17:27, 1:17:27]: All right. [1:17:28, 1:17:48]: Right. And the other thing I'm like um uh Councilman uh Thomas, I would say the reasoning why we have yet to have this uh meeting or this uh uh process to uh go through the uh pick a treasurer, I would say I'll take responsibility for that. That was something I was supposed to coordinate with everybody. So I'll take responsibility for the delay on that. Okay? I accept that. I've [1:17:48, 1:17:51]: So we now we gotta make that change. We gotta do this. [1:17:52, 1:17:52]: Okay. [1:17:52, 1:17:57]: Okay. But we also have to remember that we have to try to get someone in and trained. [1:17:58, 1:18:08]: um prior to January first, uh for the at least for the property tax specialist, because that person has to be on board and get trained on how to um [1:18:10, 1:18:18]: handle all of the new uh so when you say training you have to send them some to GMA is that what he'll probably get trained by [1:18:19, 1:18:27]: Henry County tax assessor's office on how to go ahead and process those tax assessments when they come in in homestead. [1:18:27, 1:18:47]: Because it's gonna be a whole new process that's never been done here before. So the training has to occur not only with the tax specialist, but the other staff that would back that person out because you don't wanna have a solo uh position just hailing that, and then something happens you don't have backup. So everybody in the [1:18:47, 1:18:48]: Yeah, um [1:18:48, 1:18:54]: from the accounting manager down is going to need to be trained prior to January first when all that takes place. [1:18:55, 1:19:01]: So we need to make sure that we kind of move diligently if you wanna wait as uh [1:19:01, 1:19:05]: Councilman Thomas has mentioned about hiring a treasurer. [1:19:05, 1:19:09]: And then whoever that individual is will then have to come back and [1:19:09, 1:19:10]: Get uh re [1:19:11, 1:19:15]: uh acquainted with what is needed in that department. [1:19:16, 1:19:18]: All right, thank you. Uh Mr. Berry, go ahead, please. [1:19:18, 1:19:37]: I guess my my line of question or comment is on the um property tax specialist because I do understand the the time frame with us going into this new process. And so this this new position would also have to be posted and and filled, all with it with it being already basically October. [1:19:38, 1:19:40]: Right. So you're talking about at least at the [1:19:41, 1:19:44]: Minimum amount of time frame it'll be forty five days. [1:19:44, 1:20:04]: From the time of posting and bringing somebody in, hopefully we get someone with some experience in that area. That's the minimum amount of time that it would take. It seems hard. Seems like a a a very arduous task to to try to post this and hire them and train them in the next ninety days. [1:20:04, 1:20:11]: Days. [1:20:11, 1:20:12]: So I mean it's [1:20:13, 1:20:20]: But I do understand it's it's this is by probably the most important aspect of what it is we're trying to do with our new [1:20:21, 1:20:27]: You know, city tax and exemptions and home state coming on. [1:20:27, 1:20:32]: that may retire. So we also have to get someone in to also [1:20:33, 1:20:36]: You know, if that person retires in within this say ninety days or [1:20:37, 1:20:41]: A hundred and twenty days, you're talking about oh I'm sorry. Yeah. [1:20:42, 1:20:46]: We have an accounts payable clerk that is considering retiring. [1:20:46, 1:20:52]: So with that that leaves a large gap in the department also because of the number of um [1:20:53, 1:20:54]: You know [1:20:54, 1:21:04]: the amount of work that is considered now, we do have to have a backup to that individual. We have one person handling it for the whole city and it's no longer [1:21:04, 1:21:07]: Functioning properly, so we do have to have. [1:21:07, 1:21:09]: Аліс анато персонак. [1:21:09, 1:21:10]: that individual up. [1:21:11, 1:21:12]: So you have a [1:21:12, 1:21:19]: you know, twofold issue here in the in the finance department that we have to get um fixed. [1:21:20, 1:21:21]: Sooner than later. [1:21:22, 1:21:35]: May I go ahead please? So I do want us to move forward with posting and advertising the tax uh position, the property tax position. [1:21:37, 1:21:40]: And we can hold off until [1:21:41, 1:21:43]: Until we schedule. [1:21:43, 1:21:44]: The interviews. [1:21:44, 1:21:45]: For [1:21:46, 1:21:47]: Filling the treasurer position. [1:21:48, 1:21:51]: If I may, if there is no more questions, I will make a motion. [1:21:53, 1:22:07]: I don't know. Any other any other any questions, Council? Good. Go ahead with your motion, please. Okay. I move that we um approve the property tax specialist position. Is that what it was? Yes. Yes, ma'am. [1:22:07, 1:22:13]: Approve the property tax specialist position to be posted um immediately. [1:22:16, 1:22:20]: And wait, and we would uh um [1:22:21, 1:22:24]: We will table the [1:22:24, 1:22:26]: Oh no no. We want to [1:22:26, 1:22:27]: Continue with the accountant. [1:22:28, 1:22:30]: Yes. Two positions. Post both of them. [1:22:31, 1:22:36]: Is it to post both or to reclassify just one? [1:22:38, 1:22:41]: Okay, let me rescind my motion. [1:22:41, 1:22:43]: Can we start over? [1:22:43, 1:22:44]: Uh [1:22:46, 1:22:58]: You ready? If I have to approve the job description, we haven't presented you all with the job description yet. So we will table the job description or table this accountant to position. [1:22:58, 1:23:03]: property title and you all will bring us back the job description for that position. [1:23:03, 1:23:04]: For the accountant too. [1:23:05, 1:23:25]: For the accountant two, or is that the accountant management? The accountant two pos um job prescription was provided. The only position the job prescription wasn't provided was for the property tax. Specialist, yes, ma'am. Yes. So we have to now rewrite it for what the [1:23:25, 1:23:45]: the students and responsibilities are gonna be bring that back to you for approval and then we'll be able to post and and and advertise for that position. Okay. The reason why I just I added this one there was some training that was being offered so I wanted to ensure that we got someone in and that was getting the um on [1:23:44, 1:23:47]: Online training from the case of the case. [1:23:47, 1:23:54]: So tell me what you're recommending that we do, Miss Is that for me? Miss Wheeler or you? Oh. [1:23:54, 1:24:13]: Miss Gay. I'm requesting for the property tax specialist and the accountant too, just in the event and because Ms. Renee's been talking about the possibility of the accounts payable clerk retiring. So we're definitely gonna have someone need someone to come in and train for all of the things that we have going on. [1:24:14, 1:24:27]: Okay, so you wanna begin um advertising for both those positions? Yes ma'am. Immediately. Okay. Um so I moved to um direct staff or HR to begin posting. [1:24:28, 1:24:33]: for the accountant two position and the property tax. [1:24:33, 1:24:35]: Specialists position. [1:24:36, 1:24:50]: But you still need a prompt you still need a job description first before you post that no they can bring the job description back to us on the fourteenth instead of slowing the process down. No, no. And to bring back the job description. [1:24:51, 1:24:56]: Four the accountant two. No. [1:24:57, 1:25:17]: Mayor Ford. Yeah, yes, sir. Stand by a second, please. I I think what you I'm gonna jump to I think what you're gonna we you have to we have to approve the job description for account uh for the payroll tax person before you post it. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay, so what you can so is to have counsel approve the position of the property taxpayer. [1:25:17, 1:25:27]: specialists once the job description has brought been brought forward to you for approval with us advertising for that position immediately. [1:25:28, 1:25:32]: Okay. That's your recommendation. [1:25:32, 1:25:33]: All right. [1:25:34, 1:25:41]: I and that that sounds great to me is if you put that in emotion, but I would think that the the accountant two though you can you can do that right away. [1:25:42, 1:25:53]: You can do the counting two right away if you want. Yes, sir. Because you already have it you already have a job description for it. Yes, sir. The one part is the advertising and the one part is the approval, right? [1:25:54, 1:26:11]: So we're gonna go ahead and get the advertising started now and then the one that has the job description will be approved. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm sorry, Mr uh Mr Thomas, I did I forgot. Go ahead, sir please. Mrs. Wheeler. Um Ms. How's Wheeler let me rescind my motion. [1:26:12, 1:26:15]: Okay. Okay. She rescends that go ahead, Mr. Thomas. [1:26:16, 1:26:21]: M Mrs. Will, w w one thing is clear that I I know and I understand. [1:26:22, 1:26:23]: You cannot [1:26:24, 1:26:27]: advertise a position. [1:26:27, 1:26:35]: Without the job description first. You can't ever taste a position without a job description. [1:26:35, 1:26:35]: Correct. [1:26:36, 1:26:36]: So [1:26:37, 1:26:42]: And I and I I'm trying to make sure we all understand that that you have to create that job description. [1:26:43, 1:26:54]: In order to put that out so when people applying for the job, they see and understand the job description that they are applying for. Okay. [1:26:54, 1:27:02]: That's why I said that we would bring I'm I'm I'm sorry to speak to my counsel means I know you know this. I know you know this. So [1:27:02, 1:27:06]: Councilmember Bar, your your your motion is good, but I think the one position [1:27:07, 1:27:10]: that's already set with a job prescription. [1:27:10, 1:27:13]: You know, you can go ahead and advertise that. [1:27:14, 1:27:20]: But the but the but the but but but the position that do not have a job description, you cannot advertise that position. [1:27:21, 1:27:35]: Right, so that's what we're going to bring. You have to break Yes. All right, so y y I know you all understand. You you you staff understand exactly what needs to happen. I kinda wonder do we read any emotion on that if we understand that. [1:27:36, 1:27:50]: No, I understand it. Right. Oh, Mr. Gardner, you come solve this for us to do that. Which of the job description you all need to bring back? Is it for the property tax specialist? [1:27:50, 1:27:50]: Mm. [1:27:51, 1:27:53]: All right. [1:27:54, 1:28:02]: If it's the will of council, can you please approve um A, which is the reclassification of the accounts manager and [1:28:03, 1:28:16]: Three, the accounting two, we will bring the job description ASAP back to council for the property tax. So you guys can approve that at the next meeting. I'm gonna make two motions, if I may, mayor. Two motions. Come back, Mr. Gardner. [1:28:16, 1:28:18]: Two motions. One [1:28:20, 1:28:22]: I move to approve the new position. [1:28:22, 1:28:23]: Of the account. [1:28:24, 1:28:25]: Account and two. [1:28:26, 1:28:29]: in reclassification of the senior accountant. [1:28:29, 1:28:30]: To account [1:28:30, 1:28:31]: Manager. [1:28:33, 1:28:53]: That's right. Is that your first motion? Yes, my first one. Is there a second in the motion? Let me ask you a question. How long is it gonna take to do the job description? Because w instead of waiting another two weeks, g w can you get the job description within a couple of days? You send it to us or we have another meeting instead of waiting two weeks. But you will have to approve it as [1:28:53, 1:29:13]: But but my my thing is that I I don't I think it's critical that we do this is that we we we waiting to the end of the month. I wanna see us have a town hall on the exemption so people understand what they voted on, don't go in there and vote no and under not understanding what they're doing. So I don't wanna wait to the next meeting. [1:29:13, 1:29:24]: to go ahead and do what's necessary to get the job description so we can approve it. And so I understand what Councilman Thomas is saying. What can we do to get the job description and go ahead and approve it? [1:29:24, 1:29:25]: Well. [1:29:25, 1:29:45]: So here's the catch. There are two ways to approach advertising a job. And I'm trying not to make this complicated, right? You can say we're looking for a tax person that's going to do this, this, this, and this, which is, you don't fully put the job description down in the job advertisement. We're looking for a tax person to process tax XYZ for the city of Stockbridge. [1:29:45, 1:29:48]: Either the pay or no pay. Well, you know, where do you gonna reflect that? [1:29:48, 1:29:55]: That should be enough to get the ball starting. And then you guys get the job description that says this is what this poison does. [1:29:57, 1:30:04]: Prescribed what qualifications they need to have and all of that good stuff. We want somebody that has at least a degree. [1:30:04, 1:30:09]: You know, that has at least two to three years experience in in doing tax administration or something that I don't [1:30:10, 1:30:10]: But [1:30:11, 1:30:22]: Those job description exists for communities that actually do this, have already done this for us. So we're not recreating the wheel. We're literally must taking their wheel and turning it into our car or putting it on our car. That's it. [1:30:23, 1:30:33]: I would imagine if we did that before, if we have a meeting prior to our next of official council meeting, that's that's gonna be a special call meeting to do that.'Cause we can't do it by email. We have to do that publicly I'm assuming. [1:30:34, 1:30:35]: Because you have to do it by ordinance. [1:30:36, 1:30:41]: So you have to have a public meeting in order to do it. That's why I said we could go ahead and bring it. [1:30:41, 1:30:42]: Um [1:30:42, 1:30:52]: We can bring it at the next available meeting and have you guys adopt the job description, but at least get us started on those two and we could go ahead and and make that that happen. All right. [1:30:53, 1:30:56]: So we need proper proper set of motions here to to get this done. [1:31:04, 1:31:09]: Okay, read read back what you have, Miss uh Miss uh Holloway to make sure we understand what the motion is. [1:31:12, 1:31:18]: approve the position of accountant to and the reclassification of the accounting manager. [1:31:20, 1:31:26]: Okay. Is that the is it a second to that motion? Second. Mr. Okay, I was not a second. All favor, please indicate. [1:31:26, 1:31:29]: All right, thank you very much. Okay, there's another motion, I believe. [1:31:31, 1:31:33]: To bring back the job description. [1:31:34, 1:31:35]: Um [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: Okay, now tell me. [1:31:39, 1:31:52]: You want me you want me to repeat it? Yes. Yes, sir. Okay, here we go. So to develop and bring back the job description for a tax property tax specialist at the next city council meeting, which I think is [1:31:52, 1:31:55]: I moved October October 14th. [1:31:55, 1:31:57]: I moved to direct um [1:31:57, 1:31:58]: Staff or [1:31:59, 1:32:08]: HR um to bring back the job description for the property tax specialist at the next council meeting. [1:32:09, 1:32:15]: Sir, second that motion. Mr. Mr. Mayor Pro Temberry, second there. All favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Okay. [1:32:16, 1:32:20]: So that is it for you ladies at this time. Let's do something else. [1:32:20, 1:32:37]: No. Thank you. Is there going to be a public meeting of some sort so folks don't go in the booth unknowledgeable about what they're doing? [1:32:37, 1:32:52]: So it's my understanding that we're looking at doing two meetings, two two public meetings to inform folks about the homestead. Uh we meant today to go over the process. Um we've got a draft application. We've made modifications to that. [1:32:53, 1:32:54]: We're going [1:32:54, 1:32:58]: We're going to have two ways you can apply. Well, get the application. One [1:32:59, 1:33:10]: There's gonna be a update on the website, which is a banner that scrolls across. You can click on that banner, that banner will take you directly to a fact sheet or to do sheet along with the application. [1:33:11, 1:33:12]: But you can fill out. [1:33:13, 1:33:17]: on your computer or you can print it and you can fill it out on your own. [1:33:17, 1:33:31]: And it will tell you what all documents you need and how to apply for the process. So that's and we've already got that goddamn pack. Our goal is to have that built and ready to go by what was it? I think I gave you all. [1:33:31, 1:33:42]: October fourteenth. We will have that ready to go in the background. We will look at it, make sure it makes sense. And so if the voters approve the property tax exemption [1:33:42, 1:33:44]: On november fifth [1:33:45, 1:33:48]: We will go live November sixth. [1:33:48, 1:34:08]: That website will be that portion will be turned on and available for folks recognizing that they can't apply until January. January first to April. We can't move on it, but at least they'll have that so they can start pulling down the application, filling it out, prov getting their support documents and getting ready to make sure it happens. And so we've got those exemptions, which I think is [1:34:08, 1:34:12]: [5652.8, 5672.8]: And then you have your 62 and older exemption, and then you have your septic tank exemption. And so we're working with the health department and Henry County Water Authority to geofence the because they've already done this survey according to them. Um so they're gonna geofence with the city to let us know who all's on septic and then moving forward. So those folks will be able to correspond. [1:34:32, 1:34:48]: correspond those addresses to those locations that have already been surveyed and obviously um we could be able to provide that opportunity for them to get that exemption for those folks who qualify. So that's so we're working. I will say that we learned our lesson from the annexation. [1:34:49, 1:34:52]: As I told the staff today, so our goal is not to be [1:34:53, 1:34:59]: in line or behind the gun is to be what? Ahead of the gun. So we're we're gonna be ready to go. [1:34:59, 1:35:06]: November sixth, if this is approved. If it's not approved, we just turn that section and we go back to doing what we're doing. [1:35:07, 1:35:10]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Okay. [1:35:10, 1:35:29]: Uh announcements and upcoming meeting events. Upcoming okay city council meetings will be held in city council chamber. Meeting dates and location and times are subject to change or contact city hall offices at seven seven zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred or visit the website at www.starbridgega dot org for updates. [1:35:29, 1:35:45]: Community meeting to discuss the Stockbridge Trails Plan is tomorrow, Wednesday, September 25th, 6 p.m. to 7 30 p.m. at Merrill Manor's Conference Center, 111 Davis Road. The community zoning and information meeting is Wednesday, October uh second. [1:35:45, 1:36:01]: from six PM to seven PM City Hall uh Council Chambers. Okay. The Stockbridge Cities Citizens uh Police Advisory Council meetings the first Thursday of each month, six PM in Stockbridge Police uh community room at forty five forty five North Henry Boulevard. [1:36:01, 1:36:21]: That is October 3rd. Youth Council meeting, first Monday of each month at 6:30 p.m. at City Hall Levi Meeting Room, October 7th. The Citywide Development Authority meeting is second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, October 8th. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting on the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. location. [1:36:21, 1:36:27]: Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, October 11th. [1:36:28, 1:36:48]: City Council meeting is second Monday of each month at 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers October 14th. The Downtown Development Authority meeting is third Tuesday of each month. Stockbridge Downtown Center, 1:30 ML King, Senior Heritage Trail, October 15th. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30 p.m. 30. [1:36:48, 1:37:08]: Tuesday of each month, the Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, right, October 15th. The planning commission meeting the third through uh excuse me, the third Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, October 17th. City Council Work Session meetings the last Tuesday of each month, which will be Tuesday to 20 October 29th, 6 p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers. [1:37:08, 1:37:28]: Okay, they join uh upcoming the city events initiative. Join Councilwoman Lakeisha Gantt in partnership with the Atlanta Food Truck, uh, truck uh food truck at Fortonite Market and the Stockbridge Amphitheater parking lot, 6 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. September 26th, and uh October 10th and November. [1:37:28, 1:37:48]: November 11th, which is Veterans Day, and November 21st. There will be vendors, vendors, food trucks, activities, games, music, and vibes. Contact tanbowers at the peachofmind at gmail.com for registration and additional information in reference to this particular event. [1:37:48, 1:38:08]: Join the city and Stockbridge for the annual Bridgefest event and for the City Stockbridge government is hosting this annual event for the community on Saturday, this Saturday, September twenty eighth. And we'll have live concert, food trucks, vendors and more get ready for fun in Stockbridge Amphitheater. I believe that the activity ever s everything starts at two o'clock that afternoon, I believe. [1:38:08, 1:38:25]: And then the concert, the gates open at five PM. The concert starts at seven. Uh join Councilman Alexander for the District Five, Hudson Bridge Road, community cleanup on Saturday, october fifth, from nine A.M. to eleven AM and please park the Walmart parking lot. Council is invited to [1:38:26, 1:38:46]: Okay, thank you very much. Please come out and enjoy the Cops and Clergy softball game during the Faith and Blue weekend on Saturday, October tenth, and it's actually gonna be from ten AM to twelve uh noon. And the location is JP Moseley Park at one zero four one Miller's Mill Road. Uh join Councilman Alfonso Thomas and a monthly senior bingo. [1:38:46, 1:39:06]: Bash on Wednesday, October 16th, uh, from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merrill Manor's Conference Center and 111 Davis Road for raffles, prizes, games, snacks, and fun. Join the city of Stockbridge for the fifty shades of pink love walk to highlight breast cancer awareness and survivors survivors at Clark Community Park at 111. [1:39:06, 1:39:26]: Davis Road, Saturday, October 19th from 10:30 to 1 p.m. Join Councilwoman Lakeesha Gan for the annual fall festival at Clark Community Park at 111 Davis Road on Saturday, October 26th from noon to 4 p.m. Join Mayor Ford, Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, October 28th. [1:39:26, 1:39:46]: From 10 a.m. to noon at the Stockbridge City Hall. Join Councilman Thomas for the Don't Trash Stockbridge initiative centered around education, highlighting the causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans with a continued salute of all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans with their names, brands. [1:39:46, 1:40:06]: branch, rank, and years of service. And that'll go to Rosalind Rawls by the way as well. And if you've got to contact Rosalind Rawls, your schedule appointment would meet the mayor for any additional information on council initiatives and events, six seven eight-eight three three three three three three three three three four four four four four eight or by way of email ralls at stopbridgega.org. [1:40:07, 1:40:11]: And for the twenty twenty four Stockbridge Amphith either ampitheaters this summer [1:40:11, 1:40:18]: concert series. But we're actually we're in the fall now. So now we're in the fall. And so we got uh concert coming up on um [1:40:19, 1:40:33]: Saturday, October fifth, featuring Monica, Tamar, Braxton and Seventh Streeter, and with a salute to the ladies of Divine Nine. This is a rescheduled show. Divine ladies on the Divine Nine. So all the brothers of Divine Nine bring up wear your colors as well. [1:40:33, 1:40:38]: KNAP starts at 6, grates open at 6 p.m. concert starts at 8. [1:40:38, 1:40:52]: And uh so Saturday, October twelfth, featuring that girl Lele and Friends of the Youth World Youth Concert. It's the first time we've had a youth concert in at the amphitheater, the bridge. That's two PM on that Saturday. The gates would open up at two PM. [1:40:52, 1:41:12]: Okay, let's see here. Sunday, October 13th, Kings and Queens of Southern Soul show. Um it's on a Sunday, so it's at the gates open up at 3 p.m. The concert starts at 5, featuring King George, Tucker, Sir Charles Jones, Poke Bear, TK Soul, all those wonderful folks. It's gonna be an outstanding concert. [1:41:12, 1:41:23]: Sunday, October 20th, 20 is the rescheduled show for featuring Charlie Wilson this time and with uh special guest Elder Barge. It's on a Sunday as well, so gates open at five, concert starts at seven. [1:41:24, 1:41:44]: Saturday, uh, October 26th, our jazz show, which will be Boney James, Slowburn Tour, with special guest Damien Escobar. Gates open up at 3 p.m. concert starts at five. And there is actually a new concert, another concert added to the bridge for this season, which will be the last one on November, Saturday, November 2nd. We see the dirty [1:41:44, 1:41:47]: South Throwback Hip Hop Fest. [1:41:47, 1:41:58]: And uh that concert gates open at six PM, concert starts at eight. And so uh come and check that out so Stockbridge AMP dot com and check on all the individuals that would be performing that night as well. [1:41:58, 1:41:59]: Yeah, so [1:42:01, 1:42:21]: And uh the main stro Stockbridge uh Main Street has a tiny tech concert series every Friday from six p.m. to eight p.m. per weather permitting, location one thirty ML King Senior Heritage Trail in Stockbridge, of course, right in our downtown area. Enjoy good music, uh local restaurants in our community and and all in one gorgeous location. [1:42:21, 1:42:41]: Location. Bring your family and make it a night, a date night. And don't forget to bring your lawn chairs. And my additional comments will be this is flu season, so make sure that you uh we're in the fall, so flu season, so make sure you get your flu shots, vaccinations, and covet 19 boosters to be healthy through the course of the winter months as well. And uh if you haven't registered a vote, you get [1:42:41, 1:43:00]: until October 7th to do so. Early voting starts on October 15th. It is your constitutional right to vote, and that's your power. So please be a registered voter and be an informed voter and go out and execute your constitutional right. Vote. On that note council, there's no more exactly sessions today, so I need a motion to end our meeting. [1:43:00, 1:43:09]: So moved. Is there a second? That's Miss Barber. Is there a second? Um Mr. Thomas, all in favor, please indicate. She now says she good night everybody. God bless you.
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    --- title: Planning Commission date: 2024-09-19 source: 2024-09-19_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:02]: Yeah, may I have a roll call please? [0:00:02, 0:00:05]: Yes. Stanley Dumas. Present. [0:00:05, 0:00:07]: Anthony Mitten. Present. [0:00:08, 0:00:12]: Carol Thibodeau. Present. David Planchan. [0:00:13, 0:00:15]: Jaden Williams. Present. [0:00:16, 0:00:19]: Matthew Thomas. Mr. Chairman, we have a quorum. [0:00:20, 0:00:21]: Thank you. Thank you very much. [0:00:24, 0:00:31]: Next item is the adoption of the agenda. I have one adjustment to make. Item number four. [0:00:32, 0:00:35]: On the agenda, I'd like to move to item number one. [0:00:41, 0:00:45]: And I need a motion to adopt the agenda with those changes, please. [0:00:51, 0:00:55]: Thursday, August fifty two twenty four agenda. [0:00:59, 0:01:06]: I would like to present a motion that we adopt the agenda for Thursday, August fifteenth, twenty twenty four. Nineteen. [0:01:07, 0:01:13]: Is it nineteenth? Yeah. Okay, I'm sorry, excuse me. Uh August nineteenth, twenty twenty four. [0:01:15, 0:01:17]: No, wait a minute. [0:01:19, 0:01:22]: Are you sure? September nineteenth. Okay. [0:01:22, 0:01:28]: I'd like to present a motion that we adopt the agenda for September nineteenth, twenty twenty four. [0:01:29, 0:01:48]: Second. It's been moved by Mr. Tribidor and second by Mr. Thomas that we adopt the the agenda. All in favor let it by nominally sound of it. Sure. All right. Before I vote, I had a question. Yes. Is there a reason why we're moving item number four? I will get to it in a moment, sir. [0:01:48, 0:01:50]: Okay, I I don't want to vote until uh [0:01:50, 0:01:57]: Come again. I don't want to vote on moving it until I get the reason. Oh, okay. That's fine. We have Mr [0:01:57, 0:02:03]: Thomas, Mr. Mutton, Mr. Thibodeau voted yea, and Mr. Williams abstained. [0:02:05, 0:02:12]: So the agenda is adopted. Please write for the record that I did not abstain. I wanted clarification on what I was voting for. It was not an abstention. [0:02:22, 0:02:31]: Next you have before you the minutes from the August 15th, 2024 Planning Commission. [0:02:32, 0:02:35]: You take a moment to peruse those. [0:02:36, 0:02:40]: And offer any necessary corrections if there be any. [0:02:46, 0:02:48]: I need a motion to approve, please. [0:02:52, 0:02:54]: Mr. Chairman, I make the motion to approve the minutes. [0:02:56, 0:02:56]: Is there a second? [0:02:57, 0:03:06]: I'm Harold, I'll second it. Did you get that, Ms. Logan? It's been moved by Mr. Mitten and seconded by Mr. Thibodeau. [0:03:07, 0:03:18]: That we approve the minutes from our previous meeting, August fifteenth, twenty twenty-four. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:03:20, 0:03:24]: It's unanimous. I have it. The men's [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: All proved. [0:03:32, 0:03:33]: Next I would like to [0:03:35, 0:03:40]: Thank Mr. Mitten for sitting in for me on our August meeting, my absence. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: I appreciate it. You did an excellent job. Thank you very much. [0:03:45, 0:03:45]: Okay. [0:03:49, 0:03:51]: Next we'll have new business. [0:03:52, 0:04:00]: And as I said, item number four, special use permit case, SP twenty twenty-four-01. [0:04:01, 0:04:18]: It's a consideration of a special use permit to allow a gas station and a convenience store on parcel zero three two zero one zero three zero zero one two on the west side of Rock Quarry Road across Hospital Drive. [0:04:21, 0:04:30]: The applicant is the GMI two incorporated. Agent is Harold Buckler Junior, Esquire of the Law Firm of Wilson, Brock and Irby. [0:04:30, 0:04:32]: The property is located [0:04:33, 0:04:50]: in land law 13 of district six and it contains four point two six acres more or less. It is my understanding that the applicant wishes to defer this case until a future date. [0:04:51, 0:04:54]: And if you would come forward and make that known to the commission. [0:05:02, 0:05:07]: Good evening, Mr Chair, members of the commission. Make sure your mic is on, please, and talk in the microphone. [0:05:09, 0:05:29]: Is that better? That is much better. Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the commission. My name is Steve Rothman, 2849 Paces Ferry Road, Atlanta, Georgia, three hundred three three nine. I'm filling in for my partner, Mr. Buckley, tonight. We are requesting a sixty-day deferral. The reason for the request is that we learned yesterday. [0:05:29, 0:05:39]: that this is a special use permit for a gasoline station, but we learned yesterday that there's a distance requirement separate from SUPs uh that [0:05:39, 0:05:59]: that it appears that we're too close to another gas station, but we need to pursue a survey, take a look at the situation. We just learned of this yesterday, so we'd like sixty days to iron that out. Um and so w I ha I'm happy to answer any questions, but that's the reason for the deferral. And I think we should have it wrapped up in within sixty days. [0:06:00, 0:06:00]: Thank you. [0:06:01, 0:06:03]: Thank you very much. Thank you. [0:06:06, 0:06:12]: Continued a motion from the council to defer special use case SP twenty twenty-four-zero one. [0:06:13, 0:06:19]: Chair motion to defer the case. Is there a sec? Chairman I vote second. [0:06:19, 0:06:29]: Mr. Williams has moved to defer the case. Mr. Mitten has seconded. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:06:31, 0:06:35]: It's unanimous. I have it. This case is deferred. [0:06:39, 0:06:41]: Mr. Williams, did that satisfy you, sir? [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: Chaos. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Thank you. [0:06:52, 0:07:11]: Next item is an adoption of a new land use and zoning maps with the city of Stockbridge. This is citywide. Consideration of a new twenty twenty four future land use and zoning maps, which has been prepared to reflect the city council's approval. [0:07:11, 0:07:14]: Of all property annexations. [0:07:14, 0:07:28]: De annexations and future land use designations and rezonings which has occurred since the last city council land use and zoning map approvals on May eighth, twenty twenty three. Miss Jackson, please. [0:07:32, 0:07:33]: You stating infamous taxon? [0:07:34, 0:07:37]: Yes, my name's Jordan Buchholz. I'm presenting [0:07:37, 0:07:39]: All right. Go right ahead, man. [0:07:40, 0:07:42]: Okay. Good evening, Mr. Chairman, Commission [0:07:43, 0:07:47]: Like I mentioned, my name's Jordan Buchholz. I am the GIS analyst for the city. [0:07:48, 0:07:50]: I'm here to present [0:07:50, 0:07:55]: The changes to the zoning map and future land use map that have happened since June of twenty twenty three. [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: Would you speak a little louder, please? [0:07:59, 0:07:59]: Can do. [0:08:01, 0:08:09]: So this is a table overview of all of the changes that have taken place. I will go into more detail about each change on the coming slides. [0:08:11, 0:08:13]: On June twelfth, twenty twenty three. [0:08:13, 0:08:22]: The approved changes made by council were the rezoning of two parcels from rural residential to [0:08:23, 0:08:25]: Uh multifamily residential. [0:08:25, 0:08:30]: And the future land use changes were from low density residential to high density residential. [0:08:32, 0:08:39]: On October ninth, three parcels were rezoned from rural residential or C One to suburban residential. [0:08:41, 0:08:52]: On november thirteenth, one parcel was rezoned from light industrial to multifamily residential, and the future land use designation was changed from light industrial to [0:08:52, 0:08:54]: High density residential. [0:08:54, 0:09:07]: And I forgot to mention there are maps to the right of the slides. On the top is the change of the zoning maps and the bottom is the change on the future land use maps. They are highlighted and outlined in a light blue color. [0:09:10, 0:09:15]: On December eleventh of twenty twenty three, there were two parcels annexed into the city. [0:09:16, 0:09:22]: And they were zoned as PUD and the future land use designation was high density mixed use. [0:09:23, 0:09:30]: Also on December eleventh there were two additional parcels annexed into the city with the zoning of [0:09:30, 0:09:35]: PUD and a future land use designation of high density residential. [0:09:37, 0:09:49]: On january eighth of twenty twenty four, there were four parcels annexed into the city with the zoning designation of suburban residential and a future land use designation of low density residential. [0:09:51, 0:10:03]: Four additional parcels were annexed in January of twenty twenty four with the zoning designation of PUD and the future land use designation of medium density mixed use. [0:10:04, 0:10:07]: February twelfth of twenty twenty four. [0:10:07, 0:10:21]: Two parcels were rezoned from suburban residential to multifamily residential, and the zoning desi or the future land use designation, excuse me, was changed from low density mixed use to special use. [0:10:22, 0:10:25]: Also on February twelfth. [0:10:26, 0:10:34]: There were five parcels rezoned from either OI and the future land use designation changed from low density residential to special use. [0:10:36, 0:10:43]: Additionally, there were ten parcels that were de annexed from the city. This was in Manderley subdivision, and you can see that outlined in red on the map. [0:10:45, 0:10:55]: So this is an overview of the entire map with all of the updated changes and this is what needs to be approved. So this is the zoning map. [0:10:55, 0:10:58]: and the updated future land use map. [0:10:58, 0:11:06]: So these are the two maps that we need to vote on to approve those changes. Please let me know if you have any questions. [0:11:08, 0:11:11]: Any questions from c from the commission? [0:11:12, 0:11:19]: No questions? I I have a question. I'm a little bit confused on this map change. Uh was this a public? [0:11:20, 0:11:20]: Big up please. [0:11:20, 0:11:33]: Uh I'm a little confused on this. Was this presented to the public or this is the first time that this map is brought up to to Yes, all of these changes were approved by council on the date specified on each slide. [0:11:37, 0:11:40]: Okay, thank you. This should have been just a presentation. [0:11:42, 0:11:47]: There's no need for a vote from um Planning Commission. There's no need for a vote? No. Thank you. [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Let me have a question. [0:11:53, 0:11:55]: Thank you, Jordan. Thank you. [0:12:02, 0:12:05]: not adopting the map today or is is it being so fun? [0:12:10, 0:12:17]: Ma'am, the public hearing hasn't started yet. When the when the public hearing starts, then you can just your comments. Thank you. [0:12:22, 0:12:26]: There will be a public hearing tonight on several cases. [0:12:27, 0:12:33]: Therefore I have a few protocol items that I need to make you aware of before we start. [0:12:34, 0:12:37]: Please listen closely to how tonight's meeting will be conducted. [0:12:40, 0:12:44]: We ask that you keep your comments and presentations on a professional level. [0:12:44, 0:12:48]: dealing with facts that are important for this commission to make a decision. [0:12:50, 0:13:00]: We will not be we will not accept comments that are considered to be by the chair to be personal attacks on any individual or groups of individuals. [0:13:01, 0:13:06]: You will receive a warning from the chair if you deviate from this requirement. [0:13:07, 0:13:13]: A second deviation will result in a request for you to leave the meeting and the premises for the evening. [0:13:15, 0:13:20]: Ask that you refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. [0:13:22, 0:13:24]: Only one person will be talking at a time. [0:13:25, 0:13:28]: And all comments will be made to the podium. [0:13:28, 0:13:31]: Uh after the speaker has been recognized by the chair. [0:13:33, 0:13:39]: Please direct all comments to the chair and the commission, not to the audience or the staff. [0:13:42, 0:13:45]: Please do not applaud or react to speakers. [0:13:46, 0:13:53]: Speak from the audience, cheer, or carry on a conversation with others in the audience. [0:13:54, 0:13:57]: or disrupt the order of the meeting in any way. [0:14:01, 0:14:03]: Be aware that these hearings are not a debate. [0:14:04, 0:14:14]: or an opportunity to ask questions which must be answered by any individual tonight, but are merely an opportunity to to present information to the Commission. [0:14:16, 0:14:20]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. [0:14:21, 0:14:22]: I'll say that again. [0:14:23, 0:14:25]: Other than the applicant. [0:14:25, 0:14:28]: No person may speak more than once but [0:14:29, 0:14:42]: The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. [0:14:43, 0:14:45]: Other than the applicant. [0:14:46, 0:14:48]: No person may speak longer than five minutes. [0:14:51, 0:14:58]: If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, I ask that you power them off. [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: Or put them in the silent mode. [0:15:04, 0:15:06]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight. [0:15:08, 0:15:17]: Please fill out a speaker's form, which is available on the table up front. Hand it to a staff member before approaching the podium. [0:15:21, 0:15:24]: After each item or case is called [0:15:25, 0:15:28]: We'll hear next from the c staff. [0:15:29, 0:15:32]: And then we'll hear from the applicant or their representative. [0:15:33, 0:15:40]: about what their plans for the property, along with any other relevant intro information they wish to present. [0:15:42, 0:15:45]: The commission members will be free to ask questions at any time. [0:15:46, 0:15:48]: before the vote on a project. [0:15:49, 0:15:55]: Following the applicant, anyone who wished to speak for or against the project. [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: Or to just ask questions. [0:15:58, 0:16:00]: will have the opportunity to do so. [0:16:02, 0:16:06]: Each side is restricted to a maximum of ten minutes. [0:16:07, 0:16:10]: Or time may be waived at the discretion of the presiding officer. [0:16:14, 0:16:19]: If questions are raised, we may ask that the applicant speak again. [0:16:21, 0:16:28]: After this we will call for a motion and a second. Have any necessary discussion, and if the matter is not tabled [0:16:30, 0:16:34]: We will vote to recommend approval or denial of the application. [0:16:36, 0:16:38]: The commission is only a recommended body. [0:16:40, 0:16:45]: The item will be heard by the mayor and council, whether we recommend approval or [0:16:45, 0:16:47]: Or recommend denial. [0:16:49, 0:16:53]: Unless there are me unless there are table unless they are table. [0:16:54, 0:17:01]: These items will be heard by the city m city's mayor and council at their meeting on Monday, October fourteenth. [0:17:03, 0:17:06]: And the items will be voted upon at that meeting. [0:17:10, 0:17:10]: Thank you. [0:17:14, 0:17:15]: The first case [0:17:17, 0:17:23]: Is the resulting case RZ twenty twenty four dash zero seven for Patrick Heron Master Plan? [0:17:24, 0:17:27]: be located in Council District five. [0:17:28, 0:17:32]: Consideration of the Patrick Henry Parkway Master Plan. [0:17:33, 0:17:37]: Which was presented, which was prepared, I'm sorry. [0:17:37, 0:17:40]: Paired by the T S W Consulting Firm. [0:17:41, 0:17:45]: It proposes a mixed mixture of retail commercial [0:17:46, 0:17:49]: Residential and entertainment uses [0:17:50, 0:17:53]: For areas along the southern end of Patrick Henry Parkway. [0:17:54, 0:17:57]: For some properties lying within the city. [0:17:58, 0:18:05]: within Stockbridge City limits and others lying within unincorporated Henry County. [0:18:08, 0:18:09]: That's to be presented by Ms. Jackson. [0:18:11, 0:18:13]: Good evening, Commissioners. [0:18:14, 0:18:34]: Before you, we have a citywide rezoning um located on Patrick Henry Parkway. Um as the chair read into record, um, well, I'll read into record the parcels that will be affected by this rezoning. Um so it will be parcels zero five two, zero one. [0:18:34, 0:18:54]: zero two two zero zero zero that consists of twenty nine point eight acres zero five two zero one zero three one zero zero one zero five two zero five two dash zero one zero two three zero zero two [0:18:54, 0:19:05]: Um they consist of six point sixteen acres, zero five three B as in boy, zero one zero three zero zero zero six. [0:19:06, 0:19:26]: Consist of ninety two acres, zero five three B zero one zero three zero zero zero seven consists of forty eight acres zero five three B zero one zero three zero zero zero eight consist of four point four zero. [0:19:26, 0:19:28]: Yeah. [0:19:28, 0:19:48]: Zero five two dash zero one zero three one zero zero zero consist of four point three zero acres and the last one is zero five two three B zero one zero three zero zero zero nine consist of zero point zero. [0:19:48, 0:20:07]: In total, the acreage is approximately 41.68 acres. These properties are zone RR, which is rural residential. The city is proposing to rezone these properties to PUD, which stands for Planning Unit Development for a Midst-Use Development. [0:20:09, 0:20:20]: So the majority of the construction in Stockbridge uh occurred between 1980 and 1999. At 50 percent um [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: followed by thirty five percent between two thousand and two thousand nine. [0:20:26, 0:20:46]: Only 10% or shall I say 11% between 2010 to 2019. I say all of this to say is that this development will definitely change the population of the city of Stockbridge. We are in need of new development, precisely misuse and commercial properties. [0:20:46, 0:21:06]: Many of our residents have to go outside of the city to for entertainment, sit-down restaurants. So this development will definitely present the goal that we're trying to seek. This development will also be beneficial to the residents of unincorporated Henry County as well. The population [0:21:06, 0:21:26]: Goals for the city is to protect and enhance the city's unique qualities while embracing growth and ensuring that all residents have access to critical services, safe and attractive neighborhoods, and work opportunities. We also have a goal of to maintain a friendly and [0:21:26, 0:21:31]: environment and focus on attracting and retaining young professionals. [0:21:36, 0:21:54]: So as mentioned earlier, the city is seeking to rezone the property from RR to PUD to allow for misuse development. The subject property is 41.68 acres, consists of eight parcels that were read into the record um minutes ago. [0:21:54, 0:22:02]: The properties are located in District 5, Landlot 46. There are various owners of these properties, and they are [0:22:03, 0:22:07]: in agreement and have assisted staff in the process of rezoning. [0:22:08, 0:22:28]: The surrounding zonings, as you can see in the staff report, does consist of PUD, multi multiple uh family residential. We have also single family surrounding these properties. Um in the unincorporated Henry County, um, there are single family. [0:22:28, 0:22:32]: Commercial um on the southeast portion. [0:22:33, 0:22:44]: From this property is a PUDC2, which is general commercial. And on the west side, outside of the city, there is a zoning of RD and RM. [0:22:44, 0:22:47]: Um, which is a residential duplex. [0:22:47, 0:22:50]: And Residential Multifamily by Henry County. [0:22:51, 0:22:53]: And on the south east corner. [0:22:53, 0:22:59]: Also outside of the city, the properties don't see too commercial in Henry County. [0:23:00, 0:23:07]: The current land use designation is high density misuse, so therefore the city will not need to make changes to the land use designation. [0:23:09, 0:23:29]: To the southern eastern portion of the north, Patrick Henry Parkway, adjacent to I-75, is where this property sit. Um, it is also at the end point of Holloway Road. That's where um the property ends. This properties are vacant now, mostly wooded. Um so again, we [0:23:29, 0:23:31]: [1411.9, 1431.9]: Build a mixed use development that will consist of hotels, townhomes, single family homes, um also offices, commercial, retail. Um, just have that mixed use feel to the city, um, definitely bringing uh variety, bringing um different [0:23:51, 0:24:01]: land uses um to coincide with the area um to where it is headed as far as mixed use commercial. [0:24:04, 0:24:07]: So before you is the site plan. [0:24:08, 0:24:15]: As you can see here, that list the proposed development as well as the parcel numbers, the district. [0:24:17, 0:24:25]: And as you can see, um it is color coded. So I will attempt to read it to you. Um [0:24:26, 0:24:46]: The yellow part right now is showing apartments, but we may or may not do apartments in this area. We will focus on single family and townhomes. So this could change before development starts. So just FYI. You also have single [0:24:46, 0:24:57]: So family and townhomes to the south portion of the development. Um and I'll just go to the next screen so you can um [0:24:59, 0:25:08]: Look at the variations of the site plan before you. Again, these are conceptual plans. They're not final plans. [0:25:11, 0:25:26]: This is an aerial view of the map, um, pinpointing the properties that are in discussion tonight. So as you can see the red stars, um these are the two parcels that we are discussing as far as rezoning. [0:25:30, 0:25:36]: This is a zoning map of the parcels. As you can see, they are light yellow. [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: Um which is a indication of rural residential. [0:25:40, 0:25:45]: And the red arrow is just showing you where Holloway Road is located. [0:25:51, 0:26:11]: Before you is the Holloway Road at the endpoint of the properties, just to give you a idea what that area looks like. Um it's a little different today, but um if you look to your right, um if you're familiar with the racetrack gas station, that's where that that is located. [0:26:17, 0:26:22]: Again area view of the map with outline property. [0:26:26, 0:26:32]: This is the future land use designation as it is today, high density misuse. [0:26:36, 0:26:42]: And the next few slides are just concepts of what the development could look like. [0:26:47, 0:26:55]: So the city is definitely invested in bringing beautification to the city. Again, more uses, commercial uses, mixed uses. [0:26:56, 0:27:06]: This will bring jobs to both Stockbridge and Henry County as there will be commercial development, retail stores. [0:27:09, 0:27:25]: The city is looking for a vote tonight so that we can move this to city council on October fourteenth. Excuse me, October fourteenth. Um we are asking or seeking an approval. This concludes the presentation for tonight. [0:27:26, 0:27:27]: Thank you, Miss Jackson. [0:27:29, 0:27:31]: Any questions from the commission, please? [0:27:32, 0:27:39]: Actually, uh Mr. Chairman, I have a comment go right in and a question. So Miss Jackson, thank you first off. Um [0:27:40, 0:28:00]: I would very much be against the apartments. It seems like an unhealthy mix, personally. Uh I'd rather see townhomes, though I mixed on that myself. Secondly, the one third being retail, hotel, restaurant. Um you already have a healthy interest from retailers? [0:28:00, 0:28:07]: A particular hotel brand, anyone that is very interested in this, given the building that's taking place currently on Johtoco Road. [0:28:09, 0:28:29]: We do actually. We've had uh several um retailers companies to um show interest in this area. Um I'm not at liberty to discuss who they are. That's understood. Um nothing is finalized, but yes, to answer your question. Okay. Thank you. Yes, yes. Uh [0:28:29, 0:28:32]: Uh when it comes to entertainment, what type of entertainment uh [0:28:34, 0:28:54]: You're gonna love it. I can't tell you what it is. Um, it is an assigned exciting development. Um the city has been working on this for a few years. So now we're in the process of moving forward. I will say that um the same developers that did the bridges of Johtaco will be involved in this development. [0:28:54, 0:28:55]: Yeah. [0:28:57, 0:28:59]: Do you have a question? [0:28:59, 0:29:18]: Thank you again, Ms. Jackson. Um, I I have to agree with my colleague, looking at it overall, it kinda gives a chaotic state, just looking at it. Um, so do you all still want us to vote on it whether you guys do the apartments or not? Cause if we vote on it now, then it would be the recommendation of adding the apartments. [0:29:21, 0:29:35]: So this is a concept plan. Um the city has it is zoned PUD, so PUD will allow for these uses, whether we go with the apartments or the townhomes. Um I will say [0:29:35, 0:29:55]: Um is probably high highly that we will not go with the apartments. But again, this is a concept plan that was constructed at the time um thoughts went into this development. Okay. Uh thank you for that. I know the city manager came last meeting and kind of gave us an [0:29:55, 0:30:13]: overview. He did discuss something else coming in the project and taking out the if you go back to the map for the public, um taking out the single family and town host townhomes in the south, um, for something else to go there. Is that in effect or is it gonna stay as is on the map? [0:30:14, 0:30:16]: In regards to that that portion. [0:30:16, 0:30:35]: You are correct. The city manager um has more information regarding this development as he is one of the creators. Excuse me. He is one of the creators for this development. So I apologize. I'm not at liberty to say yay or nay. Um, but it is a possibility there could be [0:30:36, 0:30:54]: um a rearrangement, the single family could go at the top, vice versa, but at this time, um I believe townhomes, we are wanting to do a mixed use development that consists of r residential. So it is a possibility um the layout could change. [0:30:55, 0:30:56]: Okay. [0:30:56, 0:31:16]: Okay. I understand. Um, the development looking at the map, two was my last two. Is it correct that there's two or five rather entrances and exits inside of the plan? And then does the development go all the way up to the true by uh true hotel that's being built as well at the top of Patrick King? [0:31:16, 0:31:17]: Yeah. [0:31:17, 0:31:30]: Sure. Um it doesn't go all the way up to the true. So as you can see here, this is um Hollow Holloway Road and my cursor's not showing, but um if you see the red [0:31:31, 0:31:51]: Semicircle, it's not a semicircle, but the red dot, uh, for lap lack of better word. This is Holloway Road, and right below it is racetrack. I'm just trying to give you a visual. Yeah, if you move upward, um, this is the beginning point. So remember in 2019, I believe the [0:31:51, 0:32:02]: That was a previous rezoning of the property above it. Um, so it ends right there. Well, it starts right there and it ends at Holloway Road. [0:32:03, 0:32:06]: So true is further north. [0:32:13, 0:32:15]: Any more questions? [0:32:15, 0:32:15]: Mm-hmm. [0:32:15, 0:32:34]: May I speak. Mr. Chairman. Uh Ms. Jackson, could you explain exactly what a concept means when you do a layout like this? And also that area used to be an overlay district long time ago. Uh we also have an elderly uh [0:32:36, 0:32:45]: home that's coming down on that segment also on that particular end across from Georgia power also in that area. [0:32:45, 0:32:53]: We also have a hotel coming in that area also, but it's on the opposite end of what you're showing here on this map. [0:32:53, 0:33:13]: I I think uh the the issue that I'm seeing here is that we don't understand at least I don't ex understand exactly what what are you referring to as a concept map. If could you explain that please? Sure. A concept is uh like a vision. [0:33:13, 0:33:33]: You have a visual what you want to build, and you place that visual onto paper. So you may say, Well, I want landscaping here, I want um garage over there, um, I'm going to put my sidewalk. [0:33:33, 0:33:53]: Walk this way. So it's just a concept. It's not a final drawing of what you're proposing to build, but it gives the viewer or the reviewer. Um, in my case, I will be reviewing this. It gives me an idea of how you're gonna lay out your property, how you're gonna uh [0:33:53, 0:34:13]: Set up your setbacks, your height, the height of the building, um, what building materials you're going to go with for this development. So that's what a concept is. Again, we understand concepts change once you start your land disturbance. [0:34:13, 0:34:18]: and your grading that may change depending on the topography of the land. [0:34:20, 0:34:29]: So you're basically saying that this map is not concrete to what they m may do on this particular property. Am I correct to say that? [0:34:30, 0:34:50]: This may not be the final layout, but it's definitely concrete in terms of uses. So if the public is sitting here listening to this, then they may have questions to say. We don't want this or we don't want that. So that would be a concept with as far as what they want here and what [0:34:50, 0:34:51]: What they don't want there. [0:34:52, 0:34:57]: That is true. Um, however this is in the works. So I [0:34:58, 0:35:01]: And forgive me, city manager, if I say it wrong. [0:35:03, 0:35:05]: It's a high possibility is going to happen. [0:35:07, 0:35:27]: All right. Thank you, Ms. Jackson. You're welcome. Chair, if I may I have one more question. Go right ahead, sir. Um, Ms. Jackson, I'm looking at the the concept plan that was just given to us and then trying to defer back to the one given to us last meeting. Um, are we is the potential car dealership site if a [0:35:27, 0:35:31]: Allowed by zoning, is that being added concrete as well? [0:35:32, 0:35:33]: to this development. [0:35:33, 0:35:52]: So the car dealership I do not believe is going to happen. Um we have an alternative idea or plan that that is currently in the words. So is is it may not happen. Okay, perfect. Thank you. You're welcome. [0:35:56, 0:35:57]: Any more comments? [0:35:59, 0:36:06]: I just need to be clear, Miss Jackson. Exactly what are you asking us to do? Um [0:36:07, 0:36:26]: You asking us to approve the parkway master plan or you asked us to approve rezoning? I'm asking you to approve the rezoning. Okay. Now from what I have in front of me, there's eight parcels and I also understand that not all of the parcels are in [0:36:28, 0:36:29]: The city of Stobre. [0:36:32, 0:36:34]: So yes they are. [0:36:40, 0:36:45]: May I speak to you? In your agenda you say it and I'm gonna read what I see here. [0:36:47, 0:36:56]: It proposes a mixture of retail, commercial, residential, and entertainment uses for areas along the southern end of Patrick Evan Parkway. [0:36:57, 0:37:00]: Will some properties lying within the city limits? [0:37:00, 0:37:03]: And others lying within unincorporated Henry County. [0:37:04, 0:37:07]: Right. So the agenda. [0:37:08, 0:37:17]: Okay. So I'll be clear. Um, as I was stating before, the properties to the south, um, near Holloway Road, those are [0:37:18, 0:37:38]: Unincorporated Henry County. So yes, there are some unincorporated properties surrounding this. Like for instance, across the street, that is unincorporated Henry County. So I'm giving you direction as to where those properties are. So I'm giving you north, south, east, west, wet properties. [0:37:38, 0:37:40]: properties are surrounding these properties. [0:37:44, 0:37:49]: So of the eight parcels that you list in your staff report. [0:37:50, 0:37:53]: All eight of these lie in the city of Stockbridge. [0:37:53, 0:37:53]: Yes, sir. [0:37:58, 0:38:08]: We are not um able to rezone properties that are not in the jurisdiction or city limits of City of Subbridge. I'm with you on that. [0:38:09, 0:38:14]: I guess the the confusion I have the the map doesn't delineate [0:38:17, 0:38:20]: Which part of just development lies in the city and which part doesn't? [0:38:21, 0:38:34]: Okay. So if we go back to the screen that had the outline, so this is the future land use map. This shows the outline of the properties. Everything is outlined is in the city of Stockbridge. [0:38:36, 0:38:39]: And that consists of eight parts? Yes, sir. [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: Thank you. [0:38:42, 0:38:42]: Sure. [0:38:43, 0:38:56]: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to ask a question. Go right ahead. So then the the bottom portion portion here, uh, is there a plan by the city to try to annex that? And would there be changes to it based on the annexation? [0:38:57, 0:39:04]: Are you referring to Holloway Road? Yes. South of the uh road that's no longer in use or that was decommissioned for lack of a better word. [0:39:05, 0:39:08]: There are no plans to annex that portion. [0:39:10, 0:39:11]: All right, thank you. [0:39:18, 0:39:20]: One other question, Miss Jackson. [0:39:21, 0:39:34]: And I don't remember what meeting it was, but it's my recollection this parcel, these parcels came before us not too long ago for rezoning. Am I correct? [0:39:35, 0:39:41]: I believe you're referring to the annexation. There were four parcels. Is that perhaps. [0:39:41, 0:39:43]: Okay. Um [0:39:44, 0:40:04]: I can't remember what month. I may it may have been in July or June. There were there was a presentation that came before you regarding four properties on Holloway Road. Um the Henry County Board of Commissioners denied that annexation. However, um [0:40:04, 0:40:14]: Well, they denied the DNS station from Henry County. However, that applicant still wants to continue. So it will come back before you at a future date. [0:40:18, 0:40:19]: Okay. [0:40:23, 0:40:25]: Any more questions, comments from the Commission? [0:40:31, 0:40:32]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: You're welcome. [0:40:35, 0:40:37]: Is there someone here representing the African? [0:40:41, 0:40:42]: You there. [0:40:43, 0:40:44]: The CDU is the applicant. [0:40:46, 0:40:51]: So I guess we can open this up for public comments, the public hearing. [0:40:52, 0:40:55]: Mayor, would you take your seat till I call on you, please? Thank you. [0:40:59, 0:41:07]: What we're gonna do, we're gonna first ask for is there anyone here that's in favor of this development? [0:41:08, 0:41:12]: We ask that you fill out a form and approach the podium. [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: Make you can wince. [0:41:18, 0:41:24]: If there are not anyone in here in favor of it, then I wanna ask if there are anyone here opposed to it. [0:41:25, 0:41:31]: And I would ask you to do the same thing. Fill out a form, approach the podium, and make your comments. [0:41:37, 0:41:38]: You're good. [0:41:46, 0:41:51]: If you will give us your name and address before making your comments. Thank you. [0:42:03, 0:42:23]: My name is Connie Snow and I live at 426 Chase Marion Way, McDonough, Georgia. It's actually in the Eagles Crest subdivision, which is off Holloway. I wanna address a couple of things first. Um I've lived at my home for 20 years. In fact, my son's right here. It's the only home he's ever known. He went [0:42:22, 0:42:42]: So he graduated from Eagles Landing High School. This young lady's his girlfriend. She's from this area as well. They've watched this area develop and change. What's really sad to me is I remember when he was in elementary school, he came home one day so excited because he had learned something at Flippin' Elementary about the uh Native American Indians that lived off a patch of. [0:42:42, 0:42:56]: Patrick Henry and the reason why they did is because of the creeks and the streams and how they could survive off eating off the land there. There's tons of creeks and streams still in that area. And by building this development, we're gonna endanger that ecosystem. [0:42:58, 0:43:18]: Massively. Um, some other things I want to touch on real quick. Um, so you say we're not a part of the city of Stockbridge and there's no plan to annex us, but that's not true. Per SB 612, which if you look it up and you look at the parcels list in it, my neighborhood and that parcel ID is on there for the list. [0:43:18, 0:43:38]: List of potential annexations, something that I'm pretty sure was not on my ballot to vote for, but that's for another day or another time. Um additionally, I've spoken on this property about four or five different times that we've had meetings and we keep going back and forth. We were told they were investors, developers, what have you, but tonight we've been told [0:43:38, 0:43:58]: Is the city. So nobody's really been clear to us on the intents or the plans. They've changed multiple times. Additionally, some other things that are very troubling to me that I want to bring up too is the fact that this development is in walking distance of three schools. My home sits directly behind Eagles Landing High School in the [0:43:58, 0:44:18]: football field and the vast majority of the students in that neighborhood in the surrounding area and middle and high school walk to and from school. I have brought that up several times in every meeting, so much so that last year at one of the meetings, the mayor told me that why he cares about the kids because the school is on county land. It wasn't essentially [0:44:17, 0:44:37]: His problem. Not his exact words, but that's what he said. Please go back and look at the tapes. You'll see it for yourself. Here's what's going to happen: we're going to keep building. We're going to damage our ecosystem because there's so much water around there. And because of all that development, it's going to end up flooding my neighborhood, the other houses, the schools. Again, there's Eagles Landing, Middle School. [0:44:37, 0:44:48]: School, high school, and Fliplin Elementary, as well as NOAA's Art Daycare and a private school church that's over there. So we're gonna damage a lot of stuff by doing this. [0:44:49, 0:45:09]: Another thing, um, in twenty eighteen we were rezoned without our knowledge. We found that out through my battle over this development last year. And we were rezoned for the rehabilitation center listed on Patrick H Henry. It should be interesting to know that the person over that is Southern Consulting, also known as Jeff Grant. [0:45:09, 0:45:29]: It should also be interesting to know that Jeff Grant's over the development of the bridges of Jodico. He served five years in pr prison for development fraud in the state of Georgia, relating to the timber industry. And in 2013, he served a civil suit for bank fraud and forgery and development crimes for something off mill. [0:45:29, 0:45:49]: Road that the Henry County citizens had to pay for. So I I have to ask this question: why do we keep approving these criminals to build faulty bills and development? The applicant you have listed is Lenar Holmes. In 2018, Lennar Holmes was served with a civil lawsuit. And that civil lawsuit, it was alleged. [0:45:49, 0:46:02]: that they had defective construction, faulty plumb plumbing, and construction defects that led to safety concerns and injuries injuries injuries, among other civil lawsuits due to faulty bills. [0:46:05, 0:46:25]: I see um Southern Consulting also works with property owners such as the Chen family, who was a part of the Bridges of Jodico, and I do believe he works with the Patels, who are some of the applicants on these as well. Here's what's gonna happen. Clayton County lost their accreditation, their school accreditation to these same developers years ago. They're still recovering. [0:46:25, 0:46:45]: Property owners' values went completely down. And it's the same people like Jeff Grant, Tim Jones, and all these others that were involved that caused that. And we as a county are now approving that. I don't know if you've looked at the recent data, but Eagles Landing High and Middle are failing, man. And so are most of our Henry County schools. Once those schools fill, [0:46:45, 0:46:56]: Our property value crumples. Additionally, the goal of the city of Stockbridge is to tad my home out and put me in a blighted district. My neighborhood's not blighted. [0:46:56, 0:47:16]: Yeah, I've got some homeowners that probably should cut their grass and not do the things that they do, but it's not blighted. And he's gonna do that, the stock bridge is gonna do that by building this development and everything else you're talking about in order to decrease every property owner's value in there. And currently there's forty-eight percent ownership, with a majority of that ownership being [0:47:16, 0:47:21]: senior citizens. So essentially this is another form of imminent domain happening to us. [0:47:22, 0:47:42]: I know you guys can say no and they're still going to improve it, but I want it on the record today that the people that are behind this development is Jeff Grant from Southern Consulting. He is what paved the way for the FLMU to be changed in 2023. We were secretly put on SB612 without our knowledge. We were not. [0:47:42, 0:47:58]: told at previous meetings that the city of Stockbridge was the lead development over this. I want to also be noted that Southern Consulting donates a lot to certain persons, charity on this committee. With that being said, that's all I have to say. Thank you. [0:47:59, 0:48:01]: Thank you. Is there anyone else? [0:48:06, 0:48:10]: There's no one else in the public hearing for this case it's closed. [0:48:24, 0:48:26]: Mr. Chair, may I [0:48:27, 0:48:28]: Go right in here. [0:48:29, 0:48:49]: I just want to point out that Miss Snow does not live in the city of Stockbridge. She lives in unincorporated Herring County. Her property is near Eagles Landing High School. We are not intending to rezone or in annex those properties within the city. So I just want that to be clear. [0:48:49, 0:49:00]: As far as the statements made about the flooding, she spoke with Mr. Gartner at the last presentation that was made, and he addressed that to her. [0:49:02, 0:49:03]: I yield. [0:49:04, 0:49:04]: Yeah. [0:49:05, 0:49:08]: May I speak, Mr. Chairman? Go ahead ahead, sir. [0:49:08, 0:49:14]: Um, I I kinda heard him mention something about uh Indian [0:49:14, 0:49:21]: area uh in that segment that we're talking about. Is there any form of Indian burial ground in that area? [0:49:21, 0:49:23]: That's the first taxing on the acknowledgement. [0:49:24, 0:49:25]: May I please? [0:49:28, 0:49:35]: I I'm just asking the question to see if there's anything that's valid and in reference to that, if you don't mind. [0:49:36, 0:49:38]: Not to my knowledge, Mr. Tippodeau. [0:49:40, 0:49:40]: All right, thank you. [0:49:45, 0:49:48]: I need a motion please from the co commission. [0:49:48, 0:49:49]: Yes, Mr. Chairman. [0:49:50, 0:49:52]: I would like to make a motion of that we [0:49:54, 0:49:55]: Read on case. [0:50:00, 0:50:01]: Four. That's why seven. [0:50:04, 0:50:05]: Is is there a second? [0:50:12, 0:50:19]: Mr. Chairman, I second the motion. It's been moved by Mr. Thomas and seconded by Mr. Meaden. [0:50:21, 0:50:26]: That we approve case R Z twenty twenty four dash zero seven. [0:50:26, 0:50:29]: All in favour let it be known by the sound of I [0:50:29, 0:50:32]: No. [0:50:35, 0:50:47]: We have Mr. Thomas, Mr. Mitton, and Mr. Williams voting in favor of approval. Mr. Thibodeau voted against approval. [0:50:48, 0:50:49]: No, I didn't vote against it. [0:50:50, 0:51:01]: I'm sorry. I didn't vote against it. Did you vote at all? Yeah, I did vote. You voted in favor? Yes. Okay. Then it's unanimous. We have four yes and zero nays. [0:51:02, 0:51:04]: May I speak, Mr. Chair? [0:51:04, 0:51:05]: Yes, you may. [0:51:05, 0:51:08]: even though we we made uh [0:51:08, 0:51:26]: pass this or whatever however you want to call it. At the end of the day, this board does not have the last say so when it comes to any ruling that we make. It is the city council that can approve or not approve anything that we may pass for whatever reason. [0:51:28, 0:51:29]: Thank you, Mr. Turbano. [0:51:32, 0:51:33]: Next case is [0:51:35, 0:51:40]: Text amendment case TX twenty twenty four dash zero five. [0:51:40, 0:51:41]: City wide. [0:51:42, 0:51:44]: So consideration of a text amendment [0:51:44, 0:51:48]: to section two point four point four [0:51:49, 0:51:53]: of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code, the UDC [0:51:56, 0:52:03]: to modify and augment the regulations for a multiple family residential zoning district. [0:52:04, 0:52:05]: This Jackson Police. [0:52:06, 0:52:15]: Greetings again, Planning Commissioners. Um, thank you for allowing me to come before you to present to you. [0:52:16, 0:52:35]: The regulations in regards to multiple family residential district. Um, as you read into the record, this contains to section two point four point four and what the intent here is to modify this district to allow [0:52:35, 0:52:55]: um additions to various sections of the UDC and to um create a more um acceptable building standards. So section one of this district states that various sections, well there's various sections in the UDC [0:52:55, 0:53:02]: um that needs to be amended. One is the entitled multiple family residential district. [0:53:02, 0:53:07]: to a be to be amended to add another section under it. [0:53:07, 0:53:27]: As multiple family residential district design guidelines. Also, section 2.4.4. We are looking to amend a section titled Yard Setbacks, and we want it to read minimum front yard setback 30 feet. So as you are [0:53:27, 0:53:47]: aware um variances has come before you where developers have asked to reduce the front yard setback from 50 feet to 30 feet. One came before you last month where you well you denied it. But there were others that has come before you and you've approved [0:53:47, 0:54:07]: those requests. And we get a lot of those. So what we're wanting to do is amend this zoning district to allow for a more comfortable build with um developers um just to present a more um not restrictive development, if that makes sense to you. [0:54:07, 0:54:27]: And as you can see, this is the UDC portion that states what the structure should look like from the street. And I believe it's in your staff report as well, where this building is sitting 50 feet from the street. [0:54:27, 0:54:42]: MFR allows for townhomes, multiple family apartments. Sitting that sitting that building that far from the street does create more impervious surface, which could [0:54:43, 0:55:01]: create a hardship for the developer. Um most districts have a certain percentage of impervious surface that you cannot exceed. Um this could create a hardship for one who has to build that far from the street. So bringing it closer will [0:55:01, 0:55:07]: have less pavement, less impervious, um, that can use that for more beautification. [0:55:08, 0:55:10]: um of that building. [0:55:14, 0:55:34]: So again, I mentioned the front yard being reduced from 50 feet to 30, where other changes we're making is to add the requirement of flock cameras. Um again, before you variances or rezonings have come before you where we'll add that condition. Now this will be [0:55:34, 0:55:52]: just a requirement. That condition will no longer be needed. Flock cameras will be required when you're building townhomes on multiple family developments. Multi-use paths, we want to change that from eight feet to 10 feet. [0:55:53, 0:56:08]: Central garbage facility. We want to provide centralized garbage facilities for garbage and refuse collections for a certain number of units or percentage of the units. [0:56:09, 0:56:14]: Implement implementation of the JohtoCo design standards. [0:56:14, 0:56:34]: was used as to come up with these design standards. Um that came before you, I believe, in 2019, where there were design standards um created for the bridges of Jotaco. We're just pulling some of those standards and putting it into our MFR [0:56:34, 0:56:35]: Our district. [0:56:38, 0:56:43]: So in your staff report is a um sheet titled exhibit A. [0:56:45, 0:56:52]: you'll see these are current standards as well as proposed standards. [0:56:58, 0:57:18]: So the front yard setback was one. We're also changing the side yard setback from 15 feet to 10 feet. Currently, our code states that the side yard has to be 15 feet and there must be 20 feet between the buildings. Mathematically, it doesn't make sense. So we're drawing. [0:57:18, 0:57:26]: Dropping the side yard to 10 feet so that you can have that easy transition of 20 feet between the buildings. [0:57:27, 0:57:41]: Also in the minimum living area section of Exhibit A, um, previously you saw that the studio is 800 square feet, whereas the one bedroom was 650 square feet. [0:57:42, 0:57:49]: That didn't make sense either. So we decided to make amendments to that, just switch it around, whereas the studio [0:57:49, 0:57:57]: now has a minimum square footage of six hundred and fifty, whereas the one bedroom would now be eight hundred square feet. [0:58:00, 0:58:20]: And I've already mentioned the multi-use paths as well as the garbage facility. And I mentioned the flock cameras. Um, below that are some of the architectural language from the bridges of Johtaco. Again, we're just kind of snipping that from that um development. [0:58:20, 0:58:39]: In inserting it in the MFR district. So we do ask that you approve these changes and so that way we can reduce some of the variances and allow for more beautiful development of townhomes. Thank you. [0:58:39, 0:58:40]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [0:58:43, 0:58:44]: Any comments from the Commission? [0:58:48, 0:58:48]: No comments? [0:58:50, 0:58:52]: Mr. Anderson, does this require public hearing? [0:58:54, 0:59:00]: Yes, it w it w it will require a public hear hearing um tonight and at city council. Okay. [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: And in that case the floor is now open for public comments. [0:59:07, 0:59:25]: I'm gonna ask anyone who wishes to s speak regarding the Text Amendment case twenty twenty four-zero five, if you would uh fill out a form if you haven't already done so. Approach the podium and give them your name and address and make your comments. [0:59:29, 0:59:32]: Seeing none, the public hearing is now closed. [0:59:35, 0:59:45]: I need a motion from the council, please. Chair. Go ahead and yes, sir. Motion to approve text amendment case TX dash two hundred and twenty four dash oh five citywide. [0:59:45, 0:59:47]: Is there a second? Second. [0:59:48, 0:59:51]: Mr. Williams has made a motion to approve. [0:59:53, 0:59:55]: Mr. Thomas has second the motion. [0:59:56, 0:59:58]: All in favour, let it be known by the sound of I. [0:59:59, 0:59:59]: Uh. [1:00:00, 1:00:01]: Email poles. [1:00:03, 1:00:05]: It's unanimous eyes have it. [1:00:06, 1:00:08]: The text from the case is approved. [1:00:09, 1:00:09]: Thank you. [1:00:16, 1:00:23]: Next item is a special use permit case SP twenty twenty four-zero two to be located in Council District Four. [1:00:26, 1:00:27]: Consideration of a [1:00:28, 1:00:30]: Special use permit to allow a liquor store. [1:00:31, 1:00:34]: On the property at one hundred six Rock Quarry Road. [1:00:35, 1:00:38]: Applicant GRP L C [1:00:39, 1:00:43]: The agent is the Gershkumar Patel. [1:00:44, 1:00:55]: Property is located in Land Lot sixty two of District twelve. It contains point eight nine acres more or less. Mr. Linton, please. [1:01:00, 1:01:11]: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um the presentation I will be making tonight is S B twenty four dash zero two, which is for a special use permit for a proposed liquor store at one oh six Rock Cory Road. [1:01:15, 1:01:35]: The case facts. The applicant is GRP LLC. The owner is North Eagle Pavilion LLC. The agent is Gorish Kumar Patel. And as mentioned, the address of the property is 106 Rock Court Road, with the number of acres being 0.89. As far as the project characteristics, there is the [1:01:35, 1:01:36]: An existing building. [1:01:38, 1:01:49]: With an existing business on the property, the current future land use designation is Low Density Mixed Use and it has a current zoning of C two and the sign was posted on august twenty first, twenty twenty four. [1:01:51, 1:02:02]: And this is the vicinity map and here highlighted is one um the building and they will be utilizing the other building um adjacent which is located in the green star. [1:02:08, 1:02:10]: And this is the aerial photo with the side plan. [1:02:16, 1:02:20]: And this is when we posted the sign on august twenty first, twenty twenty four. [1:02:24, 1:02:25]: And this is the zoning map. [1:02:27, 1:02:39]: The subject property is currently surrounded by C2, LI, which is light industrial, heavy industrial, MFR, which is multifamily residential, and OI, which is office institution. [1:02:41, 1:02:50]: And this is the future land use map. The subject property is surrounded by the D T on the left, low density mixed use, and heavy industrial, which is located below. [1:02:53, 1:03:13]: So, to give you a backstory on the uh application, um the city recently had a lottery applic application for 45 business days to award two additional alcohol before this licenses due to the recent growth of the city population. The applicant was awarded on July 30, 2024, and applied. [1:03:13, 1:03:27]: Apply for a special use permit uh in August. So right now, right before you is the map of the existing liquor stores. Uh currently there are four with um which are highlighted in red, and the one in green is the proposed liquor store. [1:03:32, 1:03:52]: And so we did a comparative analysis to look at the current uh liquor stores and compared it with the proposed liquor store. And the zoning, um, all of them are C2. And the current future land use, uh, except for JJ liquor store, is medium density mixed use, while the rest are low density mixed use. And this [1:03:52, 1:04:00]: Square footage, they aligns with the uh the proposed to use aligns with the current um liquor stores. And as far as the number of parker spaces, they align as well. [1:04:02, 1:04:10]: And so this is the liquor store uh the Stockbridge Bottle Shop, which is located at five zero three nine North Harrington Boulevard, Suite C. [1:04:12, 1:04:18]: This is the other liquor store, uh, Eagles Landing bottle shop, located at one hundred Eagle Landing Parkway. [1:04:21, 1:04:25]: This is the JJ Liquor Store located at 1590 Hudson Bridge Road. [1:04:26, 1:04:31]: And this is the Highway one hundred thirty eight package store located at twenty twenty eight Highway one thirty eight West. [1:04:35, 1:04:51]: The zoning history of the property. The subject property was rezoned from R three residential to C two General Commercial on January twenty ninth, two thousand one, upon the request of OPM properties, the intent of the request for for a retail slash warehouse building. [1:04:54, 1:05:14]: The proposed uh development information. GRP LLC is seeking a special use permit to convert a twelve thousand five hundred foot square foot building at one hundred six Rockquarry Road into a liquor store. The planned improvements include resurfing the parking lots, enhancing landscaping, adding brick facades, and installing [1:05:14, 1:05:32]: The project is expected to be completed by December 25th, 2024. The property is zone C2, which permits the castore under section 2.49 of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code and must comply with the development standards. [1:05:37, 1:05:40]: And this is the side plan showing the two buildings that they'll be utilizing. [1:05:45, 1:05:48]: And this is the rendering of the building once it'll be complete. [1:05:53, 1:06:13]: And so we did uh we we looked at the other regulations that's relevant to request. We looked at OR twenty-four five six three, section two point five two C and two point five two D of the Parquet Mix Use Overlay District. We also looked at the OR twenty-four five six zero, which is certain business require certain businesses. [1:06:13, 1:06:27]: And chapter 9.04070, license district restrictions, section 9.25, requirements for the special use permits, and section 9.26, which is a use permit consideration. [1:06:32, 1:06:40]: And so we looked at OR, as mentioned, OR five six three, section two point five D of the Parkway Mixed Overlay District. [1:06:40, 1:06:53]: Currently the subject property is in the Parkoway Mixed Use Overlay District, and the Stockbridge City Council passed a text amendment on May 13, 2024, which amended the PA the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay Guidelines. [1:06:56, 1:07:16]: And the proposed liquor store complies with section 2.52C as a select use. The key points to highlight is that the property fronts Rock Cory Road, which is classified as a minor arterial road by the Georgia Department of Transportation, is Zone C2, which permits liquor stores. The proposed liquor store will feature brick [1:07:16, 1:07:25]: Facade on all sides, which meets the required improvements, and the store will utilize the existing internal lane for access and internal circulation. [1:07:29, 1:07:35]: We also looked at OR twenty four five six zero certain businesses, uh section B. [1:07:37, 1:07:57]: Which was an ordinance that was passed by Mayor Council on march twenty sixth, twenty seventy four, which specifies that a liquor store must occupy at least six thousand square feet to be eligible for a license. The proced liquor store at one hundred six Rockware Road, with a total area of twelve thousand five hundred square feet, exceed this requirement and thus complies with the OR twenty four five six zero. [1:08:03, 1:08:10]: And we also mentioned the chapter nine point zero four zero seven zero, which is the licensed dist distance restrictions. [1:08:11, 1:08:31]: Um the churches, the alcohol sales are prohibited with within one hundred yards of any church. The three nearby churches are between three hundred forty-six and four hundred and eighty-eight yards away, which meets this requirement. As far as the schools, which states that it cannot be cannot occur within two hundred yards of any school. [1:08:31, 1:08:51]: Bridge Elementary School and Faith Academy are 629 and 429 yards away, respectively complying with this rule. And alcohol treatment centers, sales are prohibited within 100 yards of any state, county, municipally owned alcohol treatment center. HealthQuest Frontiers of Stockbridge is two point. [1:08:51, 1:08:54]: six miles away, thus meeting this requirement. [1:08:59, 1:09:12]: And it also mentioned the liquor stores. Distilled splits cannot be sold within five hundred feet of another lights in liquor store. The nearest liquor store is five thousand seven hundred five feet away, does complying with this regulation. [1:09:16, 1:09:21]: And this is a chart showing this is a table showing the distance restrictions. [1:09:26, 1:09:31]: And we uh created a map showing the distance to the nearby churches and the schools, which is shown here. [1:09:37, 1:09:46]: And we also created a dis a map showing the distance from the stockbridge bottle shop to the proposed liquor store, which is 5,705 feet. [1:09:46, 1:09:50]: Uh the bottle shop is is located in red and the proposed is located in green. [1:09:52, 1:09:56]: And this was the alcohol survey that was submitted as part of the application? [1:10:00, 1:10:05]: And we also looked at section nine point two five requirements for the special use permits. [1:10:06, 1:10:26]: The key points to highlight is that the store will utilize exist internal lane, which ensuring smooth traffic flow. The data from the Georgia Department of Transportation indicates that the average daily traffic count on Rock Croy Road was 12,500 in 2023, suggesting the current infrastructure can handle the additional traffic. [1:10:26, 1:10:40]: And that the property is designated for low density mixed use in the Stockbridge twenty four comprehensive plan. The proposed liquor store aligns with this designation and supports the plan's goal of promoting a better sense of place and preserving community character. [1:10:45, 1:11:05]: And we also looked at section 9.26, which discusses the use permit court uh considerations. The key points to highlight in this is that it aligns with the Stockbridge 24 Comprehensive Plan and it meets the intent of the low density mixed use designation, which aims to create community serve community-oriented [1:11:04, 1:11:12]: Commercial retail areas along the key corridors and intersection were serving by residential neighborhoods. [1:11:15, 1:11:19]: And it also aligns with the other community goals and policies which are shown here. [1:11:24, 1:11:38]: And it's come the properties zone C two, which is general commercial, which allows liquor store under section two point four nine of the stopbridge unified code. This zoning is consistent with the nearby set properties supporting the commercial character of the area. [1:11:40, 1:11:48]: And that the parking spaces will offer forty parking spaces meeting the requirements of section four point eight five of the stock price unified code. [1:11:52, 1:12:12]: This staff report has demonstrated that the requested special use permit via SP twenty four zero two is consistent with the regulations found in OR twenty-four five six three, OR twenty-four five six zero, chapter nine point zero four point zero seven zero, and both section nine point two five and nine. [1:12:12, 1:12:18]: point two six of the stop bridge unified develop phone development code. Therefore the planning and zoning staff recommends approval. [1:12:21, 1:12:23]: Thank you. Thank you, God. [1:12:24, 1:12:26]: Can we hear from the applicant, please? [1:13:05, 1:13:07]: Make this. [1:13:08, 1:13:17]: Good evening. I'm Lisa Morshauer. I'm an attorney with the law firm of Berman Fink Van Horn and I represent the applicant in this case. Um GRP [1:13:17, 1:13:35]: uh LLC is the applicant and I think that Mr. Anderson gave you exactly um the exactly what I want to say. His statement was was right um on every point. I um I reiterate what he said. Um the property is um well [1:13:35, 1:13:46]: We'll start with what happened with the lottery. The city determined that there should be a lottery to add new alcohol licenses based on the census. And my client um was able to get into the lottery. [1:13:46, 1:14:06]: And in order to be in the lottery, you had to have a location that met certain requirements, and this location met those requirements. So that was the first step. And then the lottery took place, and my client was one of the ones who was lucky enough to be drawn for the lottery to um pursue an alcohol license for a liquor store. So in order to do that, he has to submit, he had to submit. [1:14:06, 1:14:16]: Submit an SUP because you can't have a liquor license in the city of Stockbridge before you are um approved for a special use permit. So that is why we are here. And um [1:14:16, 1:14:36]: As Mr. Anderson said, the property is zone C2. It's it allows for a liquor store. The building itself meets the requirements for a liquor store. It has to be over 6,000 square feet. And it isn't um it's comparable to the other stores that are already licensed. [1:14:36, 1:14:51]: in size, it's about the same as almost all of those other ones. Um and they're and the zoning requirement is also the same. They're all they're zoned um for low density and commercial. So they the um [1:14:51, 1:15:11]: Criteria for this property and the building itself are very similar to the other stores that you have in this area, but there's not a store close by to this location. So this will serve an area that hasn't been served by well, people will probably have had to drive a distance to get alcohol if they wanted to purchase it. So now this store will be closer to other residents. [1:15:11, 1:15:22]: and um businesses in the area. As the city grows, that will be very important because your city is growing based on the census that allowed for this new store. [1:15:22, 1:15:23]: So [1:15:23, 1:15:27]: One of the things that you have to show is that um you're not going to be [1:15:27, 1:15:47]: impacting traffic and this location is um has a lot of access the road is um already utilized the traffic count will not be more it will not impact or increase traffic at all that's what the planning department found um there are other criteria that have to be met and um [1:15:47, 1:16:07]: Mr. Anderson spoke about all of them, but I'll just reiterate reiterate some of the ones that I think are really important. The distances to the various uses that are in the alcohol code, such as churches, schools, alcohol treatment centers, and other liquor stores. Those are all those distances are well beyond what the requirements require. [1:16:07, 1:16:21]: And they meet all of those requirements. The store itself is going to be transposed, it's going to be renovated. [1:16:21, 1:16:25]: Building walls will not change the eкster, but the ekster. [1:16:26, 1:16:46]: Facade is going to change. It's going to be much more updated. It's going to look really nice. It'll be a big improvement. Um, and it's not even a bad I I've seen a lot of ugly buildings. This is not an ugly building right now, but the um renovations will make it a beautiful building. The parking lot's going to be resurfaced, and there is green space. [1:16:46, 1:16:56]: Next to it, where there will also be new parking spaces. So there'll be ample parking for this this building, which is currently in use for retail right now. [1:16:57, 1:17:03]: And then um as far as use the use of it impacting um [1:17:03, 1:17:07]: the neighbor any any utilities that's not going to be an issue. Um [1:17:08, 1:17:08]: The [1:17:09, 1:17:20]: There's going to be better outdoor lighting. There are going to be protective well, there's gonna be new landscaping. So there'll be it'll be a better protected um screening from [1:17:21, 1:17:41]: the there are residences down the street, not close enough to impact the distance requirements, but that will be that'll be better. The landscaping is going to be very nice. You have the hours of operation for the store in the application. The proposed store will operate from 9 a.m. to 1030 p.m. on May [1:17:41, 1:18:01]: Mondays through Wednesdays, 9 a.m. till 11:30 p.m., on Thursdays through Saturdays, and on Sundays, 12:30 p.m. to 9 p.m., which are in line with all the other store hours of operation. And there will be open space. There will be ample open space around the building. And the inside of the building, obviously. [1:18:01, 1:18:05]: [4686.3, 4695.5]: nice you know, quality alcohol that'll be available for everybody in the in the city of Stockbridge and in Henry County to get. Um [1:18:17, 1:18:25]: Let's see what else I want to talk to you about. The ingress and egress to the property is is good. It has no problem at all. And um [1:18:25, 1:18:39]: It's compatible with the land uses and zoning um districts in the vicinity of the property. They're they're right in line with that and with the future land use map. Um it's in line with all of the requirements of the future land use map and the goals. [1:18:40, 1:18:41]: set out there in [1:18:41, 1:18:45]: So I believe that um based on all of these factors. [1:18:46, 1:19:03]: And the fact that it meets all the requirements of the dis the distances and the things that are in the alcohol code, we hope that you will approve the special use permit application for them and um and forward it with a favorable recommendation to city council. And um as a matter of just normal [1:19:03, 1:19:07]: Course, I have a a letter of objections in case for some reason you [1:19:08, 1:19:23]: you or the city council denied it that I'd like to submit into the record, but I'm not going to state them. I just have it in writing. So um we do ask that you vote favorably because we think it'll be a major improvement for that building and the community around it. And um and [1:19:23, 1:19:41]: The um Mr. Patel's son is here representing his father. So that's this is uh Naral Patel. If you have any questions of him, he's happy to answer them. But he but they've been involved with this kind of business before and I think they'll be a great operator and and a community member. I think they'll be a wonderful community member. [1:19:43, 1:19:45]: Do you have any questions? [1:19:48, 1:19:49]: Any questions from the council? [1:19:53, 1:19:54]: For questions? [1:19:55, 1:20:10]: And I d I have a s I don't know that you need it because I think the slideshow you got from the city is great, but I have a packet with slides or we had a PowerPoint, but it's basically the same that you already have in front of you. So I don't know if you need it. But I'm happy to have it handed out. [1:20:12, 1:20:13]: You wanna get it. [1:20:15, 1:20:19]: Provide'em to me. You I'll take them. [1:20:27, 1:20:28]: Yeah, better too. [1:20:28, 1:20:29]: Okay, too. [1:20:41, 1:20:44]: That's all I have. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. [1:20:56, 1:21:00]: This item also requires a public hearing, so I will now open the floor. [1:21:03, 1:21:05]: For anyone in favor? [1:21:07, 1:21:09]: Of this proposal. [1:21:09, 1:21:10]: Yeah. [1:21:11, 1:21:14]: Seeing none, I will open for anyone that's opposed. [1:21:15, 1:21:16]: You are opposed? [1:21:17, 1:21:24]: I if you're able, would you please fill out a form if you have an hour dancer or if the podium give us your name please? [1:21:35, 1:21:54]: My name is Armenta Jones. I live at 612 Tahoe Trail in the city of Stockbridge. I'm opposed to another liquor store in the city of Stockbridge. Um I was gonna bring up where we had them, but [1:21:54, 1:22:11]: The gentleman already noted that, but um I just want to express my opposition to it. Um for young people and we just have enough liquor stores. And that's it. Thank you. [1:22:13, 1:22:14]: Any other comments? [1:22:16, 1:22:17]: Public hearings are now closed. [1:22:38, 1:22:40]: Are there any other comments from the commission? [1:22:42, 1:22:43]: Cheer. [1:22:43, 1:22:50]: Go right ahead, sir. Um I was gonna s is there gonna be any security measures for the development? [1:22:55, 1:22:55]: Right here. [1:22:56, 1:23:05]: Oh, it's in the it's I got it. I see it now. I didn't I didn't talk about that, but there is information in our packet about that. [1:23:05, 1:23:06]: They will have [1:23:07, 1:23:27]: um cameras inside and out. They will have an off-duty officer if needed during peak hours. They will have cash registers which require you input the birth date so that you can't bypass the birth date of anybody purchasing alcohol. The lighting is going to be upgraded on the property. And um [1:23:27, 1:23:36]: I don't I don't think I covered everything. They'll be they'll be they'll be IDing everybody and inputting it into the registration register. [1:23:37, 1:23:37]: Thank you. [1:23:44, 1:23:54]: I just have one comment before we take a vote. I won't be voting unless there is a tie. So what I have to say probably don't count for very much. [1:23:57, 1:24:01]: If they say didn't cost you nothing, probably not worth nothing. [1:24:01, 1:24:06]: But we wouldn't be having this conversation except for annexation. [1:24:09, 1:24:11]: I believe that's correct. [1:24:11, 1:24:12]: And [1:24:13, 1:24:15]: Нема обсевішн [1:24:16, 1:24:19]: There has not been any increase in demand for [1:24:21, 1:24:25]: for purchasing alcohol as a result of annexation. [1:24:27, 1:24:32]: If you recall, annexation was kind of designed to fill in some donut holes. [1:24:34, 1:24:35]: In the city map. [1:24:36, 1:24:43]: And if you look at it, all of those donut holes were already being serviced by the existing stores that we already have. [1:24:45, 1:24:53]: I'm not opposed to alcohol consumption. I've shopped at all four of the stores in Top Ridge. And my experience has always been pleasant. [1:24:55, 1:24:59]: But not everybody that got annexed in the city drinks. [1:25:03, 1:25:10]: And those that do were already being serviced by the four stores that we already have. [1:25:12, 1:25:18]: I haven't taken a poll of my colleagues. I don't know who they're thinking this. But uh [1:25:19, 1:25:24]: I would tend to oppose adding an audition store right now based on [1:25:25, 1:25:31]: the indexation because there hasn't been an increase in demand as a result of indexation. [1:25:32, 1:25:35]: For alcohol purchases. Those are my comments. [1:25:36, 1:25:39]: I need a motion from the Commission, please. [1:25:41, 1:25:44]: I'd like to present a motion that we uh pass it. [1:25:48, 1:25:50]: You are motioning for approval? [1:25:50, 1:25:54]: Is that what you're saying? Okay. Is there a second? Second. [1:25:55, 1:25:59]: It's been moved by Mr. Thibodeau and second by Mr. Williams. [1:26:00, 1:26:02]: That we approve [1:26:03, 1:26:05]: The special use permit case. [1:26:07, 1:26:11]: SP twenty twenty four dash zero two. [1:26:11, 1:26:13]: All in favor let it be known by the sound of I. [1:26:14, 1:26:15]: Aye. Aye. [1:26:15, 1:26:16]: In a post [1:26:19, 1:26:25]: We have Mr. Thibodeau and Mr. Williams voting to approve. [1:26:26, 1:26:31]: Mr Mitten and Mr Thomas voting to deny. [1:26:32, 1:26:33]: So we do have a tie. [1:26:36, 1:26:56]: So I will go ahead. Um, if I may, and I had this conversation with the attorney, um, for a public hearing case such as this, they can't we can't abstain unless we recuse ourselves from the bench before the discussion. Am I correct, attorney? That's correct. So so does he have to vote? [1:26:56, 1:26:58]: Or okay. [1:26:59, 1:27:00]: Yes. [1:27:01, 1:27:01]: Well [1:27:03, 1:27:15]: So so and I don't understand what you're saying. So according to the I and I can allow the city attorney to expound more, but according to the bylaws for the board [1:27:15, 1:27:28]: If you were to um if you were to abstain this vote, you would have had to ha do it before we started discussion and then you would have to accuse yourself to the general public since you didn't do so. [1:27:28, 1:27:30]: I didn't indicate what I planned to do. [1:27:31, 1:27:35]: Well, according to the bylaws. Uh m attorney, I'll can let you explain it more. [1:27:36, 1:27:41]: Am I am I wrong? I'm I'm I'm confused as to where the abstaining come from. [1:27:41, 1:27:44]: You said you were I never said anything about Obsani. [1:27:44, 1:27:50]: You said you were abstaining your vote for this. No, I said I would not be voting unless that was the tie. Okay. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: That's what I said. I will break the tie. [1:27:54, 1:27:55]: Which I plan to do. [1:27:57, 1:27:58]: And I'm voting nay. [1:28:00, 1:28:04]: Ma may I speak, Ms Mr. Chairman? Yes, you may. [1:28:04, 1:28:16]: The only thing I have concerned about you making an assessment about whether or not Speak up, please. The thing I'm concerned about, you make an assessment about whether or not [1:28:16, 1:28:28]: the other liquor stores was serving the public. I I I think without stats and information, uh that's just uh a conversation per se. Um [1:28:30, 1:28:42]: We have an owner here that has qualified in all areas to uh be able to uh have a liquor store. So I mean that's what I'm basing my decision on, the qualification of [1:28:44, 1:28:45]: Business. [1:28:46, 1:28:50]: Uh it's uh matter of fact I'm a non drinker, so I'll share that with you also. [1:28:51, 1:29:00]: But if the business has rights to exist and it's not uh causing a problem in the area and they qualify on all levels, [1:29:01, 1:29:04]: Then this is how I see it, Mr Chair. [1:29:21, 1:29:41]: So that the absent member who is not here tonight can vote on this matter. So if we're not looking at an extension issue, we can certainly, this body can certainly continue this item to the next meeting so that there is not a title that issues, which you will have a full body to vote on the matter. [1:29:48, 1:29:50]: That is because there are less than six. [1:29:55, 1:30:03]: Mr. Chairman, if I can ask a quick question. So we're recommending body. This is going to go before the city council regardless next month. [1:30:03, 1:30:05]: So they could in effect pass. [1:30:17, 1:30:18]: Understand. Thank you. [1:30:19, 1:30:21]: If the applicant wishes us to. [1:30:24, 1:30:28]: And I actually would like that. I would like that. Very good. [1:30:28, 1:30:47]: Okay. So for the record the vote was two in favor and two against, and based on what the attorney has indicated with the applicant's request, we can defer this to the next meeting. [1:30:48, 1:30:51]: of the next meeting that there is a full commission here. [1:30:52, 1:30:56]: And the applicant has indicated that she wished to do so. So that's what we'll do. [1:30:59, 1:31:00]: Thank you very much. [1:31:00, 1:31:02]: When i when is the next meeting? [1:31:03, 1:31:07]: We make the third Thursday of every month. [1:31:09, 1:31:14]: I don't have that date. But um Ober seventeent. [1:31:15, 1:31:17]: I'm told it's the seventeenth of October. [1:31:19, 1:31:19]: Thank you. [1:31:20, 1:31:30]: Okay, thank you very much. Next item a special use permit case, SP 2024-03. [1:31:30, 1:31:38]: Consideration of a special use permit to allow for personal care home on property at two seventy Shields Road. [1:31:39, 1:31:43]: The applicant flash agent is Sean Sean or John. [1:31:44, 1:31:52]: The property is located in land lot seventy of district twelve and it contains one point four seven acres more or less. [1:31:54, 1:32:00]: Mr. Linton, are you presenting? Yes. Okay. All right. Go right answer. [1:32:15, 1:32:28]: The next present second uh chairman doomis, the uh next presentation that I'll be presenting is SB twenty four-through three, which is for a proposed personal care home located at two seventy Shields Road. [1:32:32, 1:32:52]: The applicant is Shona John, and the owner is Shona John and the agent is Shona John. The address of the property is 270 Shields Road, with the number of acres being 1.47. The characteristics of the property is single-family dwelling. The current future land use designation is medium density residential. [1:32:52, 1:33:00]: And the current zoning is SR SR Suburban Residential. And the sign was posted on August 21st, 2024. [1:33:01, 1:33:07]: This is the aerial view of the property located in the highlight in blue. [1:33:10, 1:33:14]: This is the sign that was posted on August twenty first, twenty twenty four. [1:33:17, 1:33:20]: This is the zodiac map of the property with the star highlighted here. [1:33:23, 1:33:40]: And this is the the surrounding land use designation. So we have SR and also all SR and we have the single family residential houses, the Meadow Ridge subdivision, and the another single family residential house. [1:33:43, 1:33:44]: Yeah. [1:33:45, 1:34:05]: The subject property proposed development information. The subject property accessed via a concrete apron driveway from Shields Road. It's a rectangular lot proposed to be used as a personal care home for six individuals by Shona John. The property features six bedrooms, two bathrooms, a kitchen, [1:34:05, 1:34:22]: living room and dining room. According to the hand drawn floor plan, each bedroom, including the master, will have two beds. As per Georgia regulations, section one hundred eleven, eight sixty two, each individual must have a minimum of seventy feet square feet of personal space. [1:34:25, 1:34:32]: And this is the concessional plan shown here with the D labeled as door, you have the windows and the bed. [1:34:37, 1:34:57]: Staff analysis. The subject property zoned at SR Suburban Residential and not located in an overlaid district is proposed to be used as a personal care home for six occupants. To operate a personal care home with three or more individuals, Section 3.29 of the UDC may [1:34:57, 1:35:00]: Mana mandate special requirements. [1:35:01, 1:35:05]: And these are the requirements found in section three point two nine of the UDC. [1:35:09, 1:35:10]: Staff analysis. [1:35:12, 1:35:32]: While the applicant meets the minimum development standards, other regulatory requirements are not fulfilled. Ms. John plans to administer medication to the home acco home occupants, but according to Rule Eleven Eight Sixty Two Twenty. Staff assistant with self-administration must undergo [1:35:32, 1:35:35]: and document medication training. [1:35:35, 1:35:48]: This training must cover basic medication training and certified medication aid requirements. The applicant has not provided or knowledge the necessary certifications for herself or her staff. [1:35:49, 1:36:09]: Business license requirements. To obtain a business license in Stockbridge, all relevant codes must be met, including zoning, occupation, tax, state, and fire regulations. The applicant, Ms. John, needs a permit from the State of Georgia's Department of Community Health. She plans to apply for this permit after obtaining her local. [1:36:09, 1:36:15]: business license, but without it, she n she cannot get the city license. [1:36:16, 1:36:33]: Home occupation regulations a personal care home is not considered a home occupation if the number of occupants exceeds five people according to occupant regulations. Therefore, the applicant cannot obtain a business license under the home occupation category for a personal care home with six occupants. [1:36:42, 1:36:46]: And these are the requirements found under section nine point two five of the UDC. [1:36:47, 1:37:07]: The key points to highlight is that the as far as traffic congestion, the proposed personal care home may cause traffic issues due to its single and egress via narrow driveway that widens into a two-car garage. The applicant has not provided a parking plan for residents, employees, and family members. [1:37:07, 1:37:21]: that the subject property is designated for a medium density residential and the Stockbridge twenty four comprehensive plan, the proposed personal care home may be more suitable for a commercial district than a residential one. [1:37:24, 1:37:44]: As far as section 9.26, the use permit considerations, the key points to highlight is that the applicant has not obtained a permit from the state of Georgia Department of Community Health, which is required for a business license for the city of Stockbridge. Additionally, personal care homes with more than two non-transient guests are not. [1:37:44, 1:37:53]: Considered home occupation. The applicant has not provided certifications for administered medication, potentially violating local or state laws. [1:37:54, 1:38:10]: As far as all street parking, the applicant has not provided a parking plan, which is necessary to meet the requirements of section 4.85 of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code, and the operation hours of operation, the personal care home will operate 24 hours a day. [1:38:17, 1:38:24]: Therefore, based on the staff report provided, staff recommends denial of the special use permit for the property of two seventy Seals Road. [1:38:26, 1:38:26]: Thank you. [1:38:27, 1:38:29]: Any questions from the commission? [1:38:32, 1:38:36]: I have some questions but I'll wait on the um developer to [1:38:40, 1:38:42]: You see applicant present. [1:38:44, 1:38:46]: Come forward, please. [1:38:46, 1:38:47]: Give us your name. [1:38:51, 1:38:53]: Share with us your intentions. [1:38:55, 1:39:01]: Good evening, Chairman. Can't hear you. We just speaking the mic, make sure it's on. I said good evening, Chairman. [1:39:03, 1:39:07]: My name is Shauna John and I reside at two seventy Shields Road. [1:39:08, 1:39:15]: And um some of the information that was given pertaining the personal care home is incorrect. [1:39:16, 1:39:21]: First of all, the home my home is consist of six bedrooms. [1:39:22, 1:39:25]: Of two which will be shared room. [1:39:26, 1:39:30]: And two of them is going to be private room. So the most that I'm [1:39:31, 1:39:33]: gonna be accommodating is six people. [1:39:34, 1:39:37]: And um right now date is still under renovations. [1:39:38, 1:39:39]: Because [1:39:40, 1:39:42]: And when I first put in the application [1:39:43, 1:39:45]: I was putting the application for two people. [1:39:46, 1:39:48]: There is two stages of there. [1:39:49, 1:40:00]: After you have the first stage of having two people, elderly people, it's not people that walk around or to invade anybody's privacy or bring any danger to the community. [1:40:02, 1:40:06]: All the congested traffic that they were talking about. [1:40:07, 1:40:12]: We don't have that as a p personal care home. I do own a personal care home in Riverdale. [1:40:12, 1:40:15]: In which I reside right now, де I have free people. [1:40:15, 1:40:19]: I take care of my client on my own to in to ensure that [1:40:20, 1:40:22]: Things are being done the proper way. [1:40:23, 1:40:27]: All во давай то брин в доплікаш. [1:40:28, 1:40:30]: for the um special use permit. [1:40:31, 1:40:32]: Not I'm sorry. [1:40:32, 1:40:36]: All that was required for the application for the personal care home. [1:40:37, 1:40:38]: I provided. [1:40:38, 1:40:42]: All to the state. Nobody ever asked about um [1:40:43, 1:40:52]: Medical training and so forth. This I do and I have at my order facility. The facility that I have right now there. [1:40:53, 1:40:59]: Is one that I am willing to transfer to the other side. I bought a larger place and a better community. [1:40:59, 1:41:01]: Астуайкан [1:41:01, 1:41:02]: Provide better care. [1:41:03, 1:41:03]: Um [1:41:05, 1:41:07]: I'll say more of a better community to the people. [1:41:08, 1:41:10]: We tend to forget that. [1:41:11, 1:41:12]: We [1:41:12, 1:41:14]: The pi we are the um [1:41:14, 1:41:16]: or the set of people that will be. [1:41:16, 1:41:23]: in these personal care homes and I understood that some community does not really want them around. [1:41:24, 1:41:26]: Ви і цлайде Олдерпипо. [1:41:27, 1:41:33]: We get old and um we are being put in on the side because we want more lavish things in our city. [1:41:34, 1:41:36]: But what we fail to realize is that [1:41:37, 1:41:39]: The older people, the elderly. [1:41:40, 1:41:48]: They are the foundation of what everything that we are enjoying right now there. They are the end uh the foundation of it. [1:41:48, 1:41:57]: And tomorrow you and I and everybody else inside there is gonna be either home or a personal care home or a um [1:41:58, 1:41:59]: Nursing home. [1:41:59, 1:42:05]: Families are too busy to take care of their loved ones sometime because you have to take care of [1:42:05, 1:42:08]: Home and other things and sometimes the job that you have. [1:42:08, 1:42:11]: It's not enough to do all what you want to do. [1:42:12, 1:42:13]: And um [1:42:13, 1:42:14]: I have bin working. [1:42:16, 1:42:17]: For twenty years in this field. [1:42:18, 1:42:20]: I try to move away from it. [1:42:21, 1:42:25]: But for some reason I keep getting drawn back into it. [1:42:25, 1:42:28]: Биказ дес дисч. А дидан чуб. [1:42:29, 1:42:30]: This job chose me. [1:42:31, 1:42:33]: I started doing this as a little child. [1:42:34, 1:42:36]: didn't even know what I was doing. [1:42:37, 1:42:39]: But the passion that I have for it. [1:42:40, 1:42:42]: keeps on bringing me back to it. [1:42:43, 1:42:45]: I may not be the best speaker. [1:42:45, 1:42:46]: Ге туди. [1:42:47, 1:42:48]: But I can tell you. [1:42:48, 1:42:50]: If you bring your loved one. [1:42:50, 1:42:52]: I can compete among the rest. [1:42:53, 1:42:56]: And if I am given that chance to get a permit [1:42:57, 1:42:59]: To allow me to continue my dreams. [1:43:00, 1:43:02]: I can assure each and every one of y'all. [1:43:03, 1:43:06]: To come to my home any time y'all want. [1:43:07, 1:43:09]: And you will see for your own self. [1:43:09, 1:43:13]: I can o I can I may not be able to talk, but I can walk. [1:43:15, 1:43:17]: And I would love for y'all to grant me that permit. [1:43:17, 1:43:19]: To continue my dreams. [1:43:19, 1:43:21]: Because it's a dream to me. [1:43:21, 1:43:23]: And I would love to do it. [1:43:25, 1:43:26]: So [1:43:26, 1:43:28]: What whatever that is required. [1:43:29, 1:43:31]: To reach the standard that [1:43:32, 1:43:35]: The city or whoever is requiring me to reach. [1:43:35, 1:43:37]: I am willing to do. [1:43:37, 1:43:38]: Everything. [1:43:39, 1:43:41]: I started from scratch. [1:43:41, 1:43:42]: And [1:43:43, 1:43:45]: First thing they told me that had [1:43:46, 1:43:55]: I cannot have a business in a residential area in the city of Stockbridge. That was the first was told. Nobody said that. [1:43:56, 1:44:01]: Well you need to do this you need to have a special use permit. It's after um the [1:44:01, 1:44:02]: occupational. [1:44:03, 1:44:05]: license they they denied me. [1:44:05, 1:44:10]: This is when I was told that I could apply for the special use permit. [1:44:10, 1:44:14]: Біказ он пей тварина код бук. [1:44:14, 1:44:32]: is giving us the authority in the city. They still allow it. I don't know if they stop, but it's it is still there. I don't know what is going on right now with it, but I know that's what was going on at the time being when I purchased the house. I purchased this house, I called zoning before I did anything. [1:44:33, 1:44:34]: I didn't break the law. [1:44:34, 1:44:35]: To be here today. [1:44:36, 1:44:39]: I go by what the book says. I go by what [1:44:40, 1:44:41]: High off already told me to do. [1:44:42, 1:44:45]: And I purchased this house to move my business over there. [1:44:45, 1:44:46]: And now [1:44:46, 1:44:51]: The city does not want me to don't want to allow me a permit to do it. [1:44:52, 1:44:56]: And I am in the process of fixing and [1:44:56, 1:44:58]: Doing whatever I have to do. [1:44:58, 1:45:03]: to get to the point and to get to where they want me to be the level. [1:45:03, 1:45:08]: Lavish the house because I know everybody wants a nice community. Everybody wants better. [1:45:09, 1:45:16]: And I want to give better to those who are um around me and those who are willing to allow me to serve them. [1:45:16, 1:45:18]: I am a server. [1:45:18, 1:45:24]: A servant I consider myself to be. I love my job, I love what I do. [1:45:24, 1:45:27]: Those people when I see their smile. [1:45:27, 1:45:29]: Ай філ контейне. [1:45:31, 1:45:36]: And this is what I believe that I'm living for. This is what makes me happy. [1:45:37, 1:45:41]: Ms. John, you have three minutes left. You may want to save it for rebuttal. [1:45:41, 1:45:43]: Okay, well um [1:45:43, 1:45:53]: If anybody have any question, we don't have much time. I am willing to answer to the best of my ability. Any questions please from the Commission? [1:45:53, 1:45:58]: Yeah it's Jack a few questions uh the right of here. Okay. Um [1:45:59, 1:46:10]: When it comes to the business license, you have a business license? Yes, sir. Okay. And how about the basic uh medical training? I do. I have a CNA license as well, nursing assistant. [1:46:10, 1:46:15]: The permit from the community of the city of Georgia. The state of Georgia, sorry. [1:46:18, 1:46:19]: Any more questions, please? [1:46:20, 1:46:25]: Cheer. If I may, um I have a few questions. [1:46:26, 1:46:30]: Why was the business not approved by the state? [1:46:31, 1:46:39]: My business has never not been approved by the state. That is a lie. Whoever wrote it is a lie. I have a business license. [1:46:40, 1:46:43]: to my business where I am resigned right now in Riverdale, Georgia. [1:46:44, 1:46:51]: I am applying right now. I have not applied because the first phase they denied me. [1:46:51, 1:46:56]: occupational desi um denied me in the city of Stockbridge. [1:46:56, 1:47:04]: I have not applied to the state because I have to get in the um special use permit for in order for me to do that. [1:47:04, 1:47:08]: And all of this information was just brought to me. [1:47:09, 1:47:11]: Nobody ever told me that. [1:47:11, 1:47:14]: Окей і фі вона геть то да секунд левел. [1:47:15, 1:47:16]: Get this and get that. [1:47:17, 1:47:18]: Nobody ever said it. [1:47:19, 1:47:20]: So [1:47:20, 1:47:22]: I never applied for it. [1:47:22, 1:47:24]: I am waiting for an okay. [1:47:24, 1:47:28]: To go ahead because I spend a whole lot of money already. [1:47:29, 1:47:39]: And I need more money in order to put in the sprinkler, which is what was told to me. I need to put in the sprinkler and the um fire um [1:47:41, 1:48:00]: Sorry, I can't re remember the right word for it. It's okay. My second question is I know it says here that this the reason one of the reasons why was because there were reports of home improvement projects um that needed to be done since that process. Have the improvements been completed? [1:48:00, 1:48:03]: It have not been complete. I stopped on it because I was waiting. [1:48:03, 1:48:06]: Okay. I bought this house since in [1:48:06, 1:48:07]: April [1:48:07, 1:48:17]: And I've been paying mortgage on this house and I'm waiting and waiting and waiting and nobody says anything. When I come to them, that's when they told me that you were denied. [1:48:17, 1:48:37]: Okay. Um my next question is the site plan that you submitted, I I would assume you drew it. Um the site plan you submitted it has four bedrooms. So I I know you said there were six bedrooms, but looking at this the site plan from your s from you that you submitted with your application, it's clearly four bedrooms. [1:48:37, 1:48:53]: But I mean I see six beds but it's four bedrooms. Downstairs there is a basement, a full basement, which is where I'm residing. And upstairs is where I do business upstairs. Okay, see um four bedrooms, downstairs has two bedrooms. [1:48:53, 1:49:13]: Okay, see we would wanted see, I know you were saying six, but we would have wanted to see that in order to be on your side and say there is six bedrooms. You get what I'm saying? Um my last question is well you answered that you said you are staying at the home and I see multiple requirements that were missing that you needed to do from the city's perspective. Um but I'll yield to any more questions. [1:49:15, 1:49:25]: Go ahead, Mr. Mm. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So ma'am, you sound like you're very passionate about what you do. I dream so and I all I ask is a chance to continue. [1:49:26, 1:49:44]: And I would say that you're obviously doing all you can to set up this business, but I do have some concerns, and it's been stated by some of the others. And I just want to clarify on page nine, item three, the applicant has no certifications or permits to operate in this capacity. You stated that you do have certificates. And these these have been presented to the city. [1:49:44, 1:49:50]: They have never asked me, never asked me as far as I have gotten. [1:49:50, 1:50:05]: Nobody ever asked for certifications or any of that matter. If they did, I would preside it because I do have a personal care home. And right now they I'm resigning with them because I was working, I left my job to see. [1:50:05, 1:50:10]: Over my own business and see what I'm doing to make sure that those people get the proper care that they need. [1:50:12, 1:50:32]: I I the reason I ask is because we're at this point where we're deciding as a commission whether or not to to bring li to recommend this to go to council again. Yet there's still a lot of open ended questions here. Okay. Um about your certifications, be it state, your own certifications and [1:50:32, 1:50:40]: And that's obviously has me concerned why those would not have been addressed already at this point. So the home certification, sir? [1:50:42, 1:50:43]: Which is um [1:50:45, 1:50:46]: May I ask? [1:50:48, 1:50:58]: Well, I'm I'm not up with the planning commission, but I would think that in the process of requesting that this go forward and proposing to the city [1:50:59, 1:51:17]: um this plan that uh uh all of your own qualifications, et cetera, would have been provided to the city, that this is what I want to do, and that I would have thought that at some point the city would have asked. And by every indication here, the city's making very bold statements that you don't have these things. [1:51:17, 1:51:21]: I don't have it for the city of Stockbridge for the house that I am [1:51:21, 1:51:23]: trying to get into. [1:51:23, 1:51:26]: to move my business into. I don't have it as yet. [1:51:27, 1:51:30]: Биказ і цін с дан а степ атай. [1:51:30, 1:51:37]: And instead of it going from the first stage to the second stage, they have me doing it from the last stage to the [1:51:38, 1:51:40]: So right now it is even conflicting. [1:51:42, 1:51:51]: To get it together, because I've always started from page one to page twenty-one, but now I have to start from twenty-one to one. [1:51:52, 1:52:08]: Okay. I I I don't want to refute your your qualifications or your certifications. I was just going strictly about what's before you. Well um I'm just letting you know I am gonna apply for the for the business license um for from the state for the city of um Stockbridge. [1:52:08, 1:52:26]: I am going to do everything that I have to do. I have um applied for some more funds to put in the sprinklers and to finish up the rest of the work to bring it up to date to as to what the code is asking and for me to um put in the application for this um for the state license. Okay. [1:52:26, 1:52:30]: Thank you. But before we didn't have to do that at first. [1:52:30, 1:52:43]: That was not the plan. That is thing you do after when you require most people. When you look for this um license, afterwards you have your client two or three. They will require you two or three certain um area or cities that you're in. [1:52:44, 1:52:45]: Um inst [1:52:46, 1:52:47]: Claydon County. [1:52:48, 1:52:50]: They allow you to have three. [1:52:51, 1:52:52]: Or four. [1:52:53, 1:52:56]: And then you will apply for special use permit. [1:52:57, 1:52:58]: You put in the sprinkler. [1:52:59, 1:53:15]: Then you have to reapply for another license to up u upgrade what you have, that you have more people to accommodate the six people or how many people they allow you, you have to apply for another license. And this is how I'd set to do what I was doing. [1:53:16, 1:53:26]: But because occupational is standing in my way, saying that they don't allow it in the city of Stockbridge, but the code is clearly saying that they are still they were doing it. [1:53:27, 1:53:36]: I got caught up right there. So I was confused because I even asked them if they didn't want me to have the business there. They could go ahead and [1:53:36, 1:53:38]: Just purchase the house or [1:53:38, 1:53:43]: Get the house and I will get something else because I said I wouldn't go and purchase a [1:53:43, 1:53:46]: Three hundred and twenty something thousand dollar house. [1:53:46, 1:53:48]: paying mortgages and um [1:53:49, 1:53:55]: Knowing that they don't want the business there. I wouldn't buy this house. I love the location. [1:53:55, 1:54:15]: Mr. John, l may well you finish. No, I I I'm finished, Mr. John. Okay. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. May I uh ask a question, please. Are you willing to defer this and go back with the staff and iron out those difficulties that we were facing? Because I in my opinion, we're not prepared to [1:54:15, 1:54:28]: to do a vote on this. I don't think we're ready. I don't think enough has taken place between you and the t staff to iron out all the requirements. [1:54:28, 1:54:45]: And I think in fairness to you, it would be appropriate if we defer this and allow you the opportunity to to get all those things addressed that needs to be addressed and then come back to us once that's done and then we can make a decision. [1:54:46, 1:54:53]: Okay, well I can I can do that. Would you agree to that? I would agree to that. I just wanna make sure that [1:54:56, 1:54:57]: Мі дуєн вот авту. [1:54:58, 1:54:59]: Then [1:54:59, 1:55:02]: You can say well, okay, you reach the requirement. [1:55:03, 1:55:11]: Has the license to continue doing because everything I have to do, it costs me a lot of money. I understand that, but please understand that. [1:55:14, 1:55:16]: We can't get ahead of staff. [1:55:16, 1:55:19]: And I understand that. Absolutely. [1:55:20, 1:55:27]: Whatever needs to take place needs to take place before it comes to us. [1:55:28, 1:55:30]: In order for us to make a fair decision. [1:55:31, 1:55:31]: Up or down. [1:55:33, 1:55:35]: Right now there's just too many things. [1:55:36, 1:55:36]: Yeah. [1:55:38, 1:55:56]: Dangling. If I'm Yeah, there are things handing. So i if if you would agree to defer it and meet with staff and get all those things worked out. Mm-hmm. Uh because uh we'd be here all night. [1:55:57, 1:56:01]: Back and forth about what ought to be and what should be, what shouldn't be. [1:56:02, 1:56:05]: And and we won't get and at the end of the night we still won't resolve anything. [1:56:06, 1:56:06]: Right. [1:56:06, 1:56:09]: So I'm gonna suggest to you [1:56:12, 1:56:14]: If you would agree to defer it. [1:56:15, 1:56:23]: Go back, get with staff and work those things out. And then when it's appropriate, they'll bring it back to us for a decision. [1:56:24, 1:56:25]: Is that okay with you? [1:56:26, 1:56:34]: Yes, it is okay with me to go back and do things however they want me to do it. [1:56:35, 1:56:36]: Now [1:56:36, 1:56:37]: There is one thing. [1:56:38, 1:56:40]: I don't have control over [1:56:41, 1:56:42]: How long? [1:56:42, 1:56:45]: The state will take to give me a license for this. [1:56:46, 1:56:48]: I don't have control over it. I can [1:56:49, 1:56:51]: Get everything in order, put in the application. [1:56:52, 1:56:55]: They decide how long they take to give it to you. [1:56:56, 1:56:58]: It vary as to how ma how many [1:56:58, 1:56:59]: The applications they have. [1:57:00, 1:57:07]: And it may take from one to two months before I can get that we have no influence in that regard. [1:57:08, 1:57:10]: Well what happens with the state in you? [1:57:13, 1:57:15]: That's not an area that we can weigh in on. [1:57:17, 1:57:26]: Okay. So I'm just suggesting that you go back and take the necessary steps that needs to be taken care of and need to be satisfied. [1:57:27, 1:57:28]: And then bring it back. [1:57:29, 1:57:33]: In order for us to be able to make an intelligent decision. [1:57:33, 1:57:34]: Okay. [1:57:35, 1:57:46]: Okay. Fair enough. Is that fair enough? It's fair enough. Thank you. I will thank you very much. Okay then thank you, sir. Mm-hmm. Chair, do we need a motion for that? I do. Would you? [1:57:46, 1:57:55]: Yeah, I don't mind. Um I make a motion to defer the special use permit case S B dash twenty twenty four dash oh three until staff brings it back before the body. [1:57:56, 1:58:15]: And I second it, Harold. It's been moved by Mr. Williams and second by Mr. Thibodeau that uh S P K twenty twenty four dash zero three be deferred to sometime in the future until the applicant has met with [1:58:24, 1:58:25]: Anyway. [1:58:31, 1:58:32]: Okay. [1:58:35, 1:58:45]: Did you hear that, Mr. Lee? Would you restate your motion, please? Yes, sir, Chair. Um just to clarify real quick, I know some people had comments. Do we uh would we have to defer those comments to the meeting? [1:58:46, 1:58:51]: Seventeen odd. Okay. Alrighty. Uh Miss John, you prefer one month or two months? [1:58:51, 1:58:56]: I'll rather two months the longest I can get because the state said the state [1:58:57, 1:58:58]: I got you. [1:58:58, 1:59:10]: Chair, I make a motion that we defer uh special c use permit case SB dash twenty twenty four dash oh three to November, the meeting in November, which will be November twenty first. [1:59:12, 1:59:20]: And I second it, Harold. It's been moved by Mr. Williams that we defer the s SPK s twenty twenty four-zero three. [1:59:20, 1:59:23]: Until the November Planning Commission meeting. [1:59:24, 1:59:29]: It was second by mister Tibodeau. All in favour, let it be known by the sound of I. [1:59:29, 1:59:31]: Ah okay. In the opposed. [1:59:32, 1:59:39]: It's unanimous. If this case is deferred until November. Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. John. [1:59:46, 1:59:49]: Any comments from staff, Mr. Anderson. [1:59:50, 2:00:08]: Yes, we will have um at the next planning commission we will have a training session for you guys. Um it will last maybe an hour, uh'cause we'll have a light agenda next month. So be prepared for that. Uh we'll send out the the materials and if the materials that you need in advance. Thank you. [2:00:10, 2:00:15]: Anything else? Okay, thank you. Any comments from the commission? [2:00:20, 2:00:21]: That's quiet. [2:00:23, 2:00:24]: All right. [2:00:26, 2:00:28]: If there are no other comments, I need a motion to adjourn. [2:00:29, 2:00:32]: Should I rather make a motion to adjourn? [2:00:40, 2:00:48]: The the last item um the floor wasn't open for public comments and they had um submitted a speaker card. [2:00:50, 2:00:53]: You mean the item we got in the liquor store? [2:00:55, 2:00:58]: The personal care home. Oh [2:01:00, 2:01:01]: We we we deferred it. [2:01:15, 2:01:21]: Does that motion should be opened to the public? I understand that, but I I'm just curious as to why would we do that when [2:01:23, 2:01:24]: It's a [2:01:25, 2:01:45]: Just because they're here. Okay, very good. Thank you. Then we and we will open the public hearing on case SP twenty twenty-four-three for public comment. If you would uh fill out a form if you haven't already done so. Approach the podium and say what you have to say. [2:01:45, 2:01:47]: Say, give us your name and address, please. [2:01:54, 2:02:09]: My name's Robert Bost. Uh I I reside at 254 Shields Road, two houses down. I've been in that house for thirty-five years. Uh I'm I'm all for personal assistance and personal care. [2:02:10, 2:02:27]: But but to change the zoning on on this, I I'm totally against it. My two neighbors in between at two sixty and two fifty are against it also. And and why do you want to defer it? Just say no. Thank you. [2:02:28, 2:02:31]: Thank you, sir. Anyone else? [2:02:39, 2:02:45]: My name's Robert Schule. I live at two fifty three Shields Road, which is directly across the street from this property. [2:02:46, 2:02:52]: I'm gonna have headlights f shining in my windows at night with all this traffic coming in and out. Um [2:02:54, 2:03:14]: She's elderly people she's taken care of. I was taken care of a friend of mine that has dementia. He gets up and wanders. Are these people being wandering out of the house? Shields Road is a real busy road. We can't get the police, we can't get the city to help slow the traffic down. I'm afraid somebody's gonna get hit as a my [2:03:14, 2:03:27]: My other thing. It's a residential area. I have five point four seven acres across the street. Who's gonna buy my property knowing that there's a business across the street when I do go to sell? Um [2:03:28, 2:03:40]: What about our property values? How's that gonna affect our property values? Um I don't know if this business is gonna have to be ADA uh accessible. [2:03:41, 2:03:46]: Are the doors in the house thirty six inches for wheelchairs? I don't know that. [2:03:48, 2:04:08]: At 931 Rockwari Road, there's a facility that's vacant. That was uh assistant living. I understand she's passionate for this and everything else. We have an empty building and a commercial area that's available to do what she wants to do. I don't understand, I mean, financially dynamically. [2:04:08, 2:04:19]: Whatever, but I don't see why we would have to take a residential area and turn it into something else. Um that's all I have. [2:04:19, 2:04:20]: Thank you, sir. [2:04:20, 2:04:21]: Thank you. [2:04:22, 2:04:23]: Anyone else? [2:04:26, 2:04:30]: Public hearing for case sp twenty twenty-four- zero three is now closed. [2:04:42, 2:04:43]: Okay. [2:04:44, 2:04:48]: Thank you, Madam Attorney. I need a motion from the commission. [2:04:48, 2:04:58]: Chair. Yes, sir. I make a motion that we defer special use permit case SP dash twenty twenty four dash oh three to the November twenty first uh planning commission meeting. [2:04:59, 2:05:04]: And I second it, Harold. Been moved by Mr. Williams, a second by Mr. Thibodeau. [2:05:05, 2:05:20]: That we defer SP twenty twenty-four-zero three until the november twenty-first meeting. All in favor? Let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Any opposed? The ayes have it. It's a unanimous vote. [2:05:20, 2:05:23]: So be it. This case is deferred. [2:05:27, 2:05:31]: Hey now, any comments from the board? [2:05:32, 2:05:34]: In the war comments from the war. [2:05:37, 2:05:40]: Hearing none, I need a motion to adjourn. [2:05:41, 2:05:55]: Mr. Chairman, I make the motion to adjourn. And I second it, Harold. It's moved by Mr. Mitten, seconded by Mr. Thibodeau, that we adjourn this meeting. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [2:05:56, 2:06:02]: The eyes have it, the meeting is adjourned. Thank you. Thanks for coming, everyone.
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    --- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-09-09 source: 2024-09-09_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:07:23, 0:07:43]: There's on. I guess we'll we'll try this as well, make sure we we're projecting here. So proclamation city of Stockbridge in recognition of National Assisted Living Week. Whereas residents of assisted living communities are active members of a larger community, offering their knowledge, life experiences, and involvement, their past contributions continue to be a vital part of Stockbridge community rich history. [0:07:43, 0:08:03]: And their ongoing participation deepens the stop bridge identity. And whereas assistant living is a critical long-term care option for older adults and individuals with disabilities that fosters choice, dignity, and independence, assistant living communities are committed to excellence, innovation, okay, and the advancement of personal centered care. Thank you. [0:08:03, 0:08:23]: Thank you very much. Okay. And whereas in 1995, the National Center of Assisted Living established a National Living Week to honor the contributions of assisted living communities in providing long-term care to America's seniors and individuals with disabilities. Whereas this year's theme, the National Assistant Living Week, is inspiring generations. The week is an annual event. [0:08:23, 0:08:43]: That honors the people who work and live in assisted living facilities and also provides an opportunity to learn more about the long-term care sector. Whereas during this week, special week, assisted living communities across the country are encouraged to organize activities and events which celebrate the delegation staff and individual individuality of residents and [0:08:43, 0:09:03]: Deep uh concentrations, excuse me, deep connections formed in their settings. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Forbes, a virtual authority vested in me as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Lana, Barber Kyle, Berry, Lakeisha Gann, and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim September 8th to the 14th, 2024, as National Assistant Living Week in the Great City Starbucks. [0:09:03, 0:09:15]: Georgia, a witness thereof I have hereunto sat my hand in the great city of the city of Properties, Georgia, on the ninth day of September year of Lord two thousand and twenty-four, and I signed a proclamation along with a clerk for Nessa holiday. Congratulations. [0:09:16, 0:09:20]: Okay. Now this is yours. Any any comments that you men want to say? [0:09:21, 0:09:41]: Well, I just wanted to introduce myself to everybody. My name is Darlene Lloyd, and I am employed presently at the Oaks of Stockbridge, where I'm very proud to work. And I have some of my residents in the audience, and we're so excited about that. I'm celebrating Assistant Living Week, and it gives me outstanding pleasure. [0:09:41, 0:09:43]: to thank you, Mayor Anthony Ford. [0:09:43, 0:09:46]: And Councilwoman Yolanda Barber. [0:09:46, 0:09:52]: And the city of Stockbridge for giving me the honor of accepting the proclamation of war. [0:09:53, 0:10:05]: And on behalf of the assistant living, on behalf of the assistant living communities of Stockbridge. Assistant living is an intricate part of the community because we continue to enhance. [0:10:05, 0:10:10]: And the quality of life for each senior individually. [0:10:11, 0:10:31]: Fantastic. Thank you. Thank you. Before we take a picture, put it uh your your folks that came here with you, you want to come on up, take a picture with us over? Yeah, come on up, come on. Sure. Come on, ladies or gentlemen. I have my executive director, we have our nurse here. Okay. Yeah, everybody come on up so we can take a picture together. That's wonderful. I certainly appreciate y'all being here forever. [0:10:31, 0:10:37]: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. [0:10:37, 0:10:45]: So we'll shift over and we'll shift over somewhere down here, sure. We get these other folks sitting here as well. I can move on. Oh sure, that's fine. That's fine. We'll get some [0:10:46, 0:10:58]: Come on in, sir. Ladies? Yeah. Okay. Okay, thank you. Come on in. [0:10:59, 0:11:18]: Who's gonna take the picture? She's taking the picture right there. Okay, so we might have to double up so make sure you have a lot of come right here. Come on. Come on in. Right right here. Okay. Go ahead. All right. [0:11:25, 0:11:38]: [699.0, 719.0]: So let's do we'll take one more. Let's just take one with proposition. It's a proposition. We'll step we'll step up. I don't have a phone. Good idea. Good thought. Oh is she? Yes. Oh my gosh. Come here, Martin. Come on, is that meaning them? [0:11:58, 0:12:01]: Okay. [0:12:02, 0:12:09]: No hard like that. [0:12:15, 0:12:25]: Okay, fantastic. Congratulations congratulations on you. My plastic one take care of it. [0:12:29, 0:12:36]: Yes, this is a good thing. [0:12:37, 0:12:43]: [766.7, 769.5]: Well there's a couple of things ways to do this on the [0:12:50, 0:13:04]: If if she's coming, I can hold off on that. Okay. Okay. For a second here. And what uh I have uh several different uh um open offices to do here. Jeremy Mays? Come on up, sir. [0:13:08, 0:13:26]: Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you, Jerry Mays. Good to see you again, sir. All right, good. All right, Ms. Mays, we're right here, so we're pressed to the seal us here. And we raise your right hand. We'll take small little snippets of this per se, okay? Aye, state your name. Jerry Mays. Board member? [0:13:26, 0:13:44]: Board member. Do solemnly swear in the firm. Do solemnly swear in our firm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the downtown development authority. The duties of the downtown development authority. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And I will. And I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. [0:13:44, 0:14:04]: Support and defend the charter thereof the charter thereof as well as the constitution the constitution and the laws of the state of Georgia and the laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America and the United States of America. I further affirm that I further affirm that that upon assumption of this office, that upon the assumption of this office, I do not hold I do not hold any unaccountable for public money. [0:14:04, 0:14:05]: [845.8, 865.8]: Any unaccounted unaccounted for public money. Unaccounted on public money. Due and payable to the state. Due and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any public subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. [0:14:25, 0:14:45]: Do I hold nor do I hold any other office any other office of trust of trust of the government? Of the government, of the United States, of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state, as prescribed, as prescribed, by the law, by the law of the state, of the state of Georgia. Of Georgia. I solemnly affirmed. I solemnly affirm that I faithfully excuse me. [0:14:45, 0:15:05]: That I'm fully qualified. That I'm fully qualified. Under the constitution. Under the constitution. And the laws. And the laws. Of the state. Of the state. To hold the office. To hold the office. Downtown Development Authority Board Member. Of the Downtown Development Authority Board Member. And that I will perform the duties of my office. In the best interest of the city Stockbridge. [0:15:05, 0:15:25]: of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability to the best of my ability without fear without fear favor affection reward reward or expectation thereof or expectation thereof congratulations sir thank you no problems on the ninth day of september did some great things congratulation again thank you [0:15:25, 0:15:26]: You look forward to working with [0:15:27, 0:15:32]: Okay, Mr. Mason, you can please assign a couple of documents here and uh also [0:15:33, 0:15:46]: If you have any comments, we the blueing pen, we have a we have a pin ready for you, okay? So you sign here, here. Vanessa Holly assigned it, and once she signs it, she'll give you uh give you that information and give you a copy of that as well. So you sign like that. [0:15:53, 0:16:13]: And do you have any comments at all for the audience that you want to mention? Absolutely. Um, of course, I came to Stockbridge four years ago as a member of the Merrige Bank team here in town. Um, I've gotten a chance to see the city of Stockbridge where the community connects. We're at a Marriage Bank, we're with you, and I'm just looking [0:16:13, 0:16:18]: forward to working with the city of Stockbridge and its community to make it better. [0:16:18, 0:16:20]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: We'll take a few glitches first. Uh come on there, please. [0:16:35, 0:16:55]: I just want to say on behalf of Council Liaison to the downtown development authority, welcome forward. We're going to be working together. We're going to do some great things. Absolutely. You know, service is your both. And it'll be a for you? All right. Absolutely. All right. Great things for that. Thank you. All right. [0:16:55, 0:16:55]: Yeah. [0:16:59, 0:17:04]: Uh Martin Glenn. Mr. Glenn? Okay, all right. [0:17:05, 0:17:15]: All right, well let's do it. On this side, sir? All right. How you doing? Doing good. Okay. So we're gonna take this small snippet, raise your right hand, okay? [0:17:15, 0:17:17]: I state your name. I'm Mark Glenn. [0:17:17, 0:17:37]: Board member? Board member do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the duties of the public facilities authority. The public facilities authority of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. The charter thereof. The charter thereof as well [0:17:37, 0:17:57]: as as well as the Constitution the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia and laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America and the United States of America. I further affirm that I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office I do not hold any I do not hold any unaccounted for public money unaccounted for public money or payable excuse me do and payable to the state do [0:17:57, 0:18:17]: And payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Starkbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Do I hold? Do I hold? Excuse me. Nor do I hold. Nor do I hold. Any other office? Any other office of trust of trust? Of the government. Of the government. Of the United States. Or the United States. Of this state. Of this state. Or any foreign [0:18:17, 0:18:37]: State or in a foreign state as prescribed by as prescribed by the law the law of the state of Georgia of the State of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office of my office in the best interest in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge of the City of Stockbridge and to the best of my ability. And to the best of my ability without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward or expedition. [0:18:37, 0:18:46]: Expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. Congratulations, sir. All right. Thank you. Congratulations, sir, Castle McTown. Thank you. [0:18:50, 0:18:54]: Yeah, I need to come over here and sign uh this document please. [0:18:59, 0:19:00]: Yeah. [0:19:04, 0:19:23]: Left hand, okay. There you go, sir. Any comments that we have for the for everybody? Oh no, just uh that I really appreciate the opportunity to serve my community and uh I will do my best in my ability. All right, thank you sir. Thank you. We're gonna take some pictures, come on over here, take some pictures out over there, sir. [0:19:26, 0:19:27]: Oh my god, [0:19:35, 0:19:37]: Can I have this here for you, sir? [0:19:40, 0:19:48]: Appreciate you. Thank you, brother. All right. Okay, let's see here. Uh Georgia Reeves Day. Anybody here to receive this proclamation? [0:19:49, 0:19:52]: Okay, well we'll go through the process here. [0:19:53, 0:20:01]: Georgia Rees Day, uh in recognition of that, uh whereas literacy is not just an education issue, but an economic workforce and quality of life issue. [0:20:01, 0:20:04]: is also a predictor of the future educational achievement. [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: Economic status and long [0:20:07, 0:20:08]: Lifelong health and well being. [0:20:09, 0:20:15]: In two thousand twenty-three, sixty one percent of Georgia uh ris raising excuse me, rising fourth graders did not read proficiently. [0:20:15, 0:20:25]: And research shows that children who are proficient readers by the end of the third grade are four times more likely to graduate from high school than their peers who are not uh reading on grade level. [0:20:26, 0:20:36]: Whereas the General Assembly I recognize the importance of literacy skills with the passage of two bills in twenty twenty three, SP two hundred eleven, that created the Georgia Council of Lit on Literacy. [0:20:36, 0:20:42]: And the HP five thirty eight that requires comprehensive education reforms for reading instruction in the science of reading. [0:20:42, 0:20:59]: And whereas understanding of the collaborative efforts of strategic partnership must be undertaken to effectively address literacy issues, the Georgia Municipal Association, GMA, is a non-profit, it's nonprofit organization, Georgia City Solutions, members of the general uh of the general Georgia General Assembly. [0:20:59, 0:21:01]: In a football champion now turn. [0:21:02, 0:21:10]: Children's author Malcolm Mitchell partnered with the Georgia Council of Literacy to launch Georgia Reads in the 2024 GMA annual convention. [0:21:10, 0:21:30]: And whereas community involvement is essential to literacy and improvements in a Georgia and Georgia Reeds, with uh will which will include recognizing 10 community partnerships that have uh increased literacy in the past three to five years at Georgia Reeds communities. Whereas September 30, 2024 marks a date uh when our Georgians are encouraged to create awareness of [0:21:30, 0:21:44]: about the importance of reading and encouragement of community partnerships to promote future literacy improvements. Whereas together we improve Georgia's economic viability one book at a time. Now therefore I Anthony S. Ford, Biper Authority Vested Me. [0:21:44, 0:21:56]: As the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members out in Alexander, Ilana, Barber, John, Blount, Kisha Gann, and Fonsel Thomas, we pro hereby proclaim September 30, 2024, a Georgia Reeves Day in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:21:57, 0:22:10]: A witness thereof, I have here unto set my hand in the Great Seal City, Stockbridge, Georgia, the ninth day of September, year of our Lord, 2024, and assigned a proclamation along with our clerk for Nessa Holiday. And here's ladies and gentlemen. [0:22:11, 0:22:12]: Uh just uh [0:22:13, 0:22:19]: I guess we might have to take a picture of this as well. Reading this one no more. Yes, correct. [0:22:19, 0:22:32]: Any educators with us or any educators or retired teachers? Oh okay. I'm sorry. Yeah, but I'm appreciating you back. You gotta think we can change. [0:22:39, 0:22:44]: Thank you. I I'm sorry. [0:22:46, 0:22:50]: We uh we have that on the first thing. Okay, okay. [0:22:52, 0:22:52]: Oh [0:22:55, 0:23:10]: I don't know where it is. Okay. Okay, I'm like that. I I I haven't done that yet at this point. So uh that's it, come on up forward, please. [0:23:17, 0:23:31]: How are you doing? Yeah, yes, come on over here please. So this is uh so otherwise, ladies and gentlemen, I guess in a sense. You can touch the mic here. [0:23:32, 0:23:52]: We have a award for our water department, is that right? Yes. Okay, so go right ahead, please. All right. My name is Pam Burnett, and I'm the executive director of the Georgia Association of Water Professionals. We're a state association, professional association. We've been around for 92 years working with all of the water systems, which includes waste. [0:23:52, 0:24:00]: Water, water supply, stormwater, any form of water in Georgia. We uh we we help with the education training. [0:24:00, 0:24:20]: And recognition of water professionals. So I'm very proud of this award. This we have a program called the Gold Awards for those systems that achieve perfect compliance with their federal and state permits. And these are very complicated facilities: water plants, wastewater plants. [0:24:20, 0:24:40]: Are very complicated facilities. They require a lot of training, special skills, but probably above all of that, real commitment and diligence to doing the work of producing clean water, safe water that's delivered to you every time you turn on the faucet. [0:24:40, 0:24:53]: And every time you flush the commode, it goes away and it's treated and restored and returned to the environment safely and in a clean way so somebody else can use it. [0:24:53, 0:25:13]: So, in our awards program, the reason we recognize uh perfect compliance, and that's what this award is about, is perfect compliance with the state laws and federal laws. And I'm telling you that these plants are so complicated, it is not easy to achieve perfect compliance because perfect compliance means even submitting [0:25:13, 0:25:22]: your reports on time. You could you could get a number transpose, anything that'll n that'll knock you out of [0:25:22, 0:25:40]: of of compliance, it could be just something very simple. It could be the post office, not getting something on time. So it's not easy to achieve. It requires all of the things that I said before, just tremendous attention to the details and the um product. [0:25:40, 0:25:46]: So in Stockbridge this year, we recognized the um the water plant. [0:25:48, 0:25:51]: Received oops, I'm sorry, this is my platinum award. The gold award. [0:25:53, 0:26:13]: I'm I'm backwards on this. The wastewater plant received the Gold Award this year. And again, this is a full year of perfect compliance. And thank you for doing this. This is this is great for the environment. Absolutely great for the environment. Okay, so here's another piece of it. [0:26:13, 0:26:28]: If you receive gold award status, which is again perfect compliance, but if you do that for six years in a row, after the fifth year, you're eligible for our platinum awards. So think about that. One thing can knock you back. [0:26:29, 0:26:32]: And you have to start over with the gold awards. Well, you've got [0:26:32, 0:26:33]: Water plant. [0:26:33, 0:26:34]: That achieved [0:26:35, 0:26:48]: I'm sorry. Yes, this is the water system that that received the platinum award. And the f the the water plant has not received a platinum award in fifteen years. So this is an amazing accomplishment. [0:26:51, 0:26:55]: And and it's it has everything to do with the leadership of the department. [0:26:56, 0:27:00]: Dashes is um and your team have done an incredible job. [0:27:00, 0:27:02]: But I have to thank the лідерs. [0:27:02, 0:27:08]: Stockbridge as well because you are a key to providing the resources and the support of the team. [0:27:09, 0:27:19]: It's not an easy job that they do, and they have to do it every day, twenty four hours a day, so that you can flush your toilet and you can drink water. So thank you so much. Really proud of you. [0:27:20, 0:27:28]: Thank you. So anybody else from your department is here? No. Okay, so why don't we why don't you take these so we gotta take some well first of all you got any comments or no? [0:27:30, 0:27:50]: I'd just like to say congratulations and thank you to our hard working team for all their efforts in ensuring that we remain compliant with our permit. Our sewer superintendent, Mr. Kevin Miller, was planning to be here, but his mom passed on Saturday, so just keep him and his family in your prayers. Thank you. All right. So once you once you take this sir, we will take this picture. [0:27:50, 0:27:59]: These are yours, I don't need to hold come in sir. These are yours. These are yours. I don't need to hold these. These are yours. All right? All right. So uh let's take some pictures here. Come on in, come on in. [0:28:01, 0:28:05]: Well I think it's all [0:28:14, 0:28:20]: Yeah. [0:28:22, 0:28:30]: And I have one more proclamation, ladies and gentlemen, before we uh end this particular ceremonial part of our program. This is National Hispanic Heritage Month. [0:28:31, 0:28:36]: Is anybody here to receive this uh award? Proclamation. Okay. [0:28:36, 0:28:53]: Whereas each year American observes National Hispanic Heritage Month annually from September fifteenth to october fifteenth by celebrating the contribution of the influence of Hispanic Americans to the history, culture and achievements of the United States of America, citizens whose ancestors came from Spain, Mexico, Caribbean, Central and South America. [0:28:54, 0:29:09]: Whereas the observation started in uh observation observation, that was right, started in nineteen sixty eight as a uh Hispanic Heritage Week under President Lyndon Johnson and was expanded to President Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty eight to cover a thirty day period starting September fifteenth and ending october fifteenth. [0:29:10, 0:29:13]: It was enacted into law on august seventeenth, nineteen eighty eight. [0:29:14, 0:29:34]: Under approved public law 100-402. And whereas the day of September 15 is significant because it is the anniversary of independence of Latin American countries: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guala Mama, Honduras, and Nicaragua. In addition, Mexico and Chile celebrate their independence days on September 16th and September 18th, respectively. Also, Columbus Day. [0:29:34, 0:29:39]: or De Lorato Day, which is October twelfth falls within the thirty day period. [0:29:39, 0:29:54]: Whereas this year's theme, everything is possible, everything is possible, Latinos, great economic growth, innovation, innovation, excuse me, and ca competitiveness, a stronger uh middle class and set to values centered on family and hard work and opposition opposition. [0:29:54, 0:30:14]: And whereas the city of Stockbridge uh continues to support the Hispanic and Latin community and encourage everyone to celebrate its the Hispanic and Latin culture in and around the Stockbridge community and surrounding area. Now, therefore, I Anthony Splor by virtual authority best than me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander Londa, Barber Cowberry, and Lisa. [0:30:14, 0:30:34]: Lakesa Gan and Fonso Thomas do hereby proclaim September 15th, October 15th, the Hispanic Heritage Month, the Great City of Stockbridge. A witness thereof I have hereunto sent my hand in the Great Sea of the City, Stockbridge, Georgia, on its ninth day of September, year of our Lord 2024. And I signed the proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday. Okay. [0:30:34, 0:30:44]: So let's uh picture this. Yeah, no no no. [0:30:51, 0:31:05]: Thank you very much. Okay, appreciate it. All right, so uh we have uh almost six o'clock here, ladies and gentlemen. Is it gonna be it for now for this? I guess you need to collect all these items here. Something else to have? [0:31:05, 0:31:17]: I don't know, is there a Miss Scott here? Mary Scott? [0:31:17, 0:31:20]: Okay, there's a new sky. Okay. [0:31:21, 0:31:22]: Speed. [0:31:24, 0:31:31]: How are you doing, Ms. Doug? All right. All right, so uh right here, yeah, raise your right hand. [0:31:31, 0:31:34]: And uh I state your name? I knew yeah. [0:31:34, 0:31:54]: Board member? Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the Stockbridge Ethics Board. The duties of the Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will. And that I will. To the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. The charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. [0:31:54, 0:32:14]: And laws and laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America. In the United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this state. I do not hold. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. Any unaccounted for public money. Do and payable to the state. Do and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stop Brave. [0:32:14, 0:32:27]: City of stock race. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold nor do I hold any other office of trust? Any other office of trust of the government of the United States? Or the government of the United States. Of this state. Of this state. Or any foreign state as prescribed. [0:32:27, 0:32:37]: As prescribed. By the laws by the law. By law. Of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. I'm a resident of the city of Stockbridge. I'm a resident of the city of Stockbridge. And I shall and I shall remain a resident. [0:32:37, 0:32:57]: And I shall remain a resident by serving on the ethics board. By serving on the ethics board. I have not been convicted. I have not been convicted of any felonies. Of any felonies. Involving moral turpitude. Involving moral turpitude. In this state. In this state. Or any other state. Or any other state. I will perform the duties of my office. The best interests of the city of Stockbridge. [0:32:57, 0:33:10]: City of Stockholm. And to the and to the best and to the best of my ability. Of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. Congratulations. Thank you. [0:33:13, 0:33:15]: Sound this. [0:33:16, 0:33:22]: And and do you have any comments for the public at all that you want to mention? Uh no, I'll let you care. [0:33:23, 0:33:29]: I'm sorry? How did you get out of here? Well, that's fine. I mean you if you want. If you sign here and but if you want a copy, so we have the floor is yours. [0:33:41, 0:33:42]: Okay. [0:33:43, 0:33:53]: So we'll take a photo how we take a comics. Yeah. Very quickly I'm gonna say thank you for giving me uh the opportunity to volunteer and I hope to make the sitter petty the the [0:33:54, 0:34:04]: That's good. City better. Always room for improvement. Okay. [0:34:15, 0:34:32]: Oh thank you very much. Alright folks give it a few minutes to readjust and get everything together for our meeting. We'll be a little bit of time, but uh we'll make it work. All right. Thank you. All right, thank you. All right, so let's see here. [0:34:32, 0:34:34]: It's not worse. [0:34:40, 0:34:41]: Okay, good, good. [0:38:49, 0:38:52]: On the adjustment I will uh [0:41:04, 0:41:05]: You could take this though. [0:41:06, 0:41:10]: All right, council, I have eleven, excuse me, I have six, eleven. Need to get our meeting started. [0:41:11, 0:41:12]: Like to call the meeting to order. [0:41:14, 0:41:19]: Invocation, Mr. Glenn, sir if you could please come to the mic and give an invocation. Ladies and gentlemen, if you can please stand. [0:41:25, 0:41:25]: Thank you. [0:41:28, 0:41:31]: All right, with a head bowed, hearts and minds clear. [0:41:32, 0:41:35]: Heavenly Father, we just come today to say thank you. [0:41:35, 0:41:55]: Thank you for all of your blessings, all of your mercy, all of your grace, Father. And we ask that you look down on all of us. Bless us from the crowns of our heads to the soles of our feet, Father. And Lord, we ask that you bless this meeting, Father. We ask that you lead and guide us, Father, to better discussions that lead to better results and better opportunities. [0:41:55, 0:42:02]: For this city, Lord. And we just thank you for all these things. In Jesus' holy name. Amen. [0:42:02, 0:42:18]: Thank you. Amen. Alright, for Pledge Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God independent liberty and justice war. [0:42:19, 0:42:21]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:42:24, 0:42:42]: Good evening everyone. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Temberry. Present. Councilmember Alexander. Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quarrel. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Mr Berry, Mayor Pro Temberry, please. [0:42:42, 0:42:52]: Yes. Um mayor I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda to remove item number five, noting that the requested amendment is already in compliance with the city's comprehensive plan. [0:42:53, 0:42:58]: There are second to that second. I second. Ms. Okay, I gave it to Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [0:42:59, 0:43:01]: Okay, it comes off. Go ahead, Mr. Berry, please. [0:43:01, 0:43:13]: And also I'd like to make another motion to remove items number seven, number eight, number nine, and ten from the agenda due to the applicant's request for deferral to be heard at the October fourteenth meeting. [0:43:13, 0:43:25]: To a second that motion. I said that okay Miss uh Ms. Gamf uh second hand on favor please indicate unanimous decision. Okay, appreciate that. Mayor Ford, yeah. I'd like to make a request to amend the agenda. [0:43:26, 0:43:46]: Well st stand stand by one second, please. Stand by. Ms. Uh Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, I just wanted to make a comment if we could. Uh to make sure that everybody is clear. Uh the item on Hudson Bridge Road was removed tonight. Uh it was removed tonight to continue to work on the plan. Uh the developer has uh [0:43:46, 0:44:06]: is working on the plan to refine it to come into a qu to see what Lakerbeard put together some better conditions. What will be described and uh come out of that process uh over here, right here by the wall wa the um Walmart area in Taco Bell. [0:44:05, 0:44:25]: Is a gated community, which which has been agreed upon already, with uh very nice town homes that'll be developed. Uh the price point in those pounds home projected to be three fifty to four hundred thousand dollars. Um we have a fifty-four million dollar road project that will begin uh in that area. So there's a [0:44:25, 0:44:45]: A lot of moving parts to see how this particular um development will move forward in its final iteration. It was indicated that uh we made this deferral for some reason, other than that. There was no other reason other than that uh the uh [0:44:45, 0:45:05]: uh product that we received. Uh we asked for upgraded product and we the upgraded product is being worked into it so that uh it will fit into alignment and actually exceed the value of the current homes uh in the area. So what will happen is that uh will be heard on October the fourteenth [0:45:05, 0:45:25]: The public will be given an opportunity to speak on it and to weigh in on the final iteration of what the plan will look like and to just understand that, you know, if you need the information, come to the city. We got the information. Okay, there's a lot of misinformation out there. [0:45:25, 0:45:45]: About all the product, whatever project that we have, you can come to the city to the planning and zoning development and request it. You know, there was an iteration or a picture shared of what the development was looking like. The final development won't look anything like the picture that was shared at all. So if you want to understand what it looks like, [0:45:45, 0:46:05]: Like, come to the city, we will be able to provide you with the factual information so there's no misunderstandings on where we stand in terms of this particular project. In addition to that, I will close by saying there was a number of one-car garages that were in the particular development request. [0:46:05, 0:46:25]: Those one-car garages are being removed. As a result of the one-car garages being removed, it will reduce some of the units that are available. So everything will have a two-car garage in this particular development. The council will have to decide on what needs to be done, but certainly the iteration of the current final plan. [0:46:25, 0:46:40]: is being worked on. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Ms. Barber Glade, please. Yes. I'd like to request to amend the agenda for two items. One, um, for mayor's consideration to reactivate the finance committee. [0:46:42, 0:46:45]: Should I do both of these separately? Yes, you should. Okay. [0:46:46, 0:46:48]: I'd like for the council to consider. [0:46:48, 0:46:51]: For the mayor who has the responsibility [0:46:51, 0:46:52]: Um or [0:46:52, 0:46:55]: He has the where it all to be able to reactivate. [0:46:56, 0:46:57]: The finance committee. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:47:02, 0:47:03]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:47:04, 0:47:14]: The motion fails. Go on with your next motion, please. The next motion, um, I'd like to add to the agenda a council discussion to define a policy or procedure. [0:47:14, 0:47:18]: to dispose of city owned real estate properties. [0:47:19, 0:47:21]: Okay, is there a second to that motion? [0:47:22, 0:47:24]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:47:25, 0:47:32]: Motion fails. I need in my a motion to to adopt the entire agenda, please. Come here. Yeah, yes sir, go ahead please. [0:47:36, 0:47:37]: Yes sir. [0:47:38, 0:47:41]: I wan I wanna state in the record that [0:47:41, 0:47:43]: When it comes to [0:47:43, 0:47:44]: Committees. [0:47:46, 0:47:53]: that the mayor has the sole authority to uh appoint um [0:47:54, 0:47:56]: The chair of these committees [0:47:57, 0:47:59]: And that the council [0:47:59, 0:48:02]: Do not have [0:48:02, 0:48:04]: in authority to [0:48:04, 0:48:07]: to to to set those and so [0:48:08, 0:48:10]: I would hope that [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: U and [0:48:12, 0:48:16]: Councilwoman Barber would just have that discussion on your own. [0:48:16, 0:48:30]: And uh make sure that that process is is adhered to. Thank you. Mayor Ford, if I may, add a comment in response to Councilman um Thomas. Go ahead, please. Okay. [0:48:30, 0:48:38]: So I don't know the background. I don't know the background as to why the original finance committee was deactivated. [0:48:38, 0:48:44]: But it's been some time ago, I guess ten plus years ago, Councilwoman Gantt would know. [0:48:44, 0:48:51]: Um or maybe the city clerk can find the background information on why it was deactivated. [0:48:51, 0:48:53]: But our city has grown. [0:48:54, 0:48:56]: A lot of changes have been made here. [0:48:56, 0:49:00]: Ви ніде фананс борд файнс коміті. [0:49:01, 0:49:05]: That is what my original request was. [0:49:05, 0:49:08]: My original request was for [0:49:09, 0:49:10]: Us to reactivate [0:49:11, 0:49:16]: The finance коміті, if we want to name it something else, a finance board. [0:49:16, 0:49:17]: So be it. [0:49:18, 0:49:27]: I understand based on the charter that the mayor is the only one who has the powers to activate a committee. [0:49:28, 0:49:30]: However, all of the other boards [0:49:32, 0:49:35]: The council they have council liaisons. [0:49:35, 0:49:36]: Not a chair. [0:49:37, 0:49:39]: That's my understanding. [0:49:40, 0:49:42]: I want us to have a discussion. [0:49:42, 0:49:43]: Regarding [0:49:44, 0:49:46]: Reactivating. [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: The finance committee. [0:49:48, 0:49:50]: If we need to change [0:49:50, 0:49:54]: The position from chair to a council we aise on, so be it. [0:49:56, 0:50:00]: That is why I wanted to have a discussion regarding [0:50:00, 0:50:05]: Реактивати Фінанс комітеті, Фінанс Борд. [0:50:05, 0:50:11]: Whatever you want to call it. I also suggested that I don't I would mind being [0:50:11, 0:50:13]: The council liaison. [0:50:13, 0:50:17]: Now the city clerk corrected me and she said, Well, with the finance committee [0:50:17, 0:50:18]: That [0:50:18, 0:50:22]: committee has a chair, not a council liaison. [0:50:23, 0:50:26]: It's the only committee that has. [0:50:26, 0:50:27]: A t here. [0:50:28, 0:50:29]: So [0:50:30, 0:50:32]: I wanted us to have this discussion. [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: So [0:50:33, 0:50:35]: That we all can get the background. [0:50:36, 0:50:44]: On what happened with the original finance committee while we no no longer have it. I am the only member of the governing body who's not serving. [0:50:45, 0:50:46]: On any board. [0:50:47, 0:50:48]: Or committee. [0:50:49, 0:50:49]: So [0:50:50, 0:50:51]: That was an opportunity. [0:50:53, 0:50:53]: Tesla. [0:50:54, 0:51:06]: All right. As as you well know, Councilwoman Barber and an attorney as well as the uh clerk received a memo from me about that outlining the trial responsibilities of the mayor. [0:51:06, 0:51:20]: And all committee. Committees and boards are two different things. The committee the committee aspect, committee and committee chairman of of any officers of the city council shall be appointed by the mayor and shall serve in the pleasure of the mayor. The mayor shall have the power and appoint new members of any committee at any time. [0:51:20, 0:51:33]: Also, my memo, I mentioned the finance department will soon gain additional uh support to handle the daily uh responsibilities and full confidence. I have full confidence in city manager who has operational supervision and entire to ensure the successful management of the finance department. [0:51:33, 0:51:36]: What it will work well without a committee involvement. [0:51:36, 0:51:51]: I had mentioned that to you. Now what it is is that the boards, the actual boards, there are four boards, four council members are liaisons to those boards. Those boards are are discussed and determined by the council themselves. Only vote unless there's a tie. [0:51:51, 0:52:07]: All right, unless uh some other board member or uh uh a board member's term expires and that individual is willing to give up that responsibility or the council decides to switch it, then that's the council desire of those boards. We need to move on with the meeting this evening. Okay. [0:52:07, 0:52:13]: If I may, and this will be my last comment, I'm sorry. I surely hope so. Okay. So as I said [0:52:13, 0:52:15]: I understand that [0:52:15, 0:52:16]: Committees [0:52:16, 0:52:17]: The mayor. [0:52:17, 0:52:20]: has the responsibility of appointing a chair. [0:52:21, 0:52:22]: It doesn't have to be a committee. [0:52:23, 0:52:24]: It could be a board. [0:52:24, 0:52:27]: Just as we have the downtown development authority board. [0:52:28, 0:52:36]: Just as we have the Citywide Development Authority Board, just as we have the Main Street Board, just as we have the Youth Council Board. [0:52:37, 0:52:40]: All of those boards have council liaison. [0:52:40, 0:52:43]: Just so happened, the finance committee. [0:52:43, 0:52:45]: requires a chair. [0:52:45, 0:52:46]: Well [0:52:46, 0:52:49]: We don't necessarily have to call it a commitті. [0:52:49, 0:52:51]: It could be a finance board. [0:52:52, 0:52:54]: Just like the rest of [0:52:54, 0:52:57]: the committees and well boards that we have. [0:52:58, 0:53:00]: This would be the third. [0:53:01, 0:53:04]: Third time the mayor has rejected. [0:53:04, 0:53:08]: My request to serve on any board or committee. [0:53:08, 0:53:10]: I don't know why. [0:53:10, 0:53:11]: My councilmates [0:53:12, 0:53:17]: And the mayor do not want me to serve on any board or committee. [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: You should know why. [0:53:19, 0:53:23]: You should know why. If you've been watching these meetings, you ought to know why. [0:53:23, 0:53:29]: I am all about transparency in the way we govern and the way we do business. [0:53:30, 0:53:31]: So I'll um [0:53:32, 0:53:39]: hopefully be able to bring this back after I speak with my councilmates and come to a resolution. Thank you, Mayor. [0:53:40, 0:53:46]: You're welcome. I need now need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. Mayor Ford, I'll move. Is there a second? [0:53:46, 0:53:48]: Mayor Ford. [0:53:48, 0:54:05]: May Mr. How's I second that. All in favor, please indicate. Mayor Ford, I have a comment before we vote, because these minutes do not reflect the statements that I made. In fact, I've sent amendments to the clerk to make to all of [0:54:06, 0:54:26]: The minutes. What excuse me, what minutes you're referring to? All four of the minutes. August twelfth, August twenty seventh. Or a point of order. August twenty four. Stand by. August twenty sixth. To make revisions to those minutes based on the statements and comments. [0:54:26, 0:54:46]: that I made during those meetings. What point order w the point order, listen, we're adopting the agenda. The adoption of the minutes comes after adopting the agenda. Yes. Now so I need a motion to adopt the agenda please. What I've asked is I want to make an appointment. You're out of line, stand by. I need the motion to adopt the agenda. You've had a first, you've had a motion and a second. Okay. [0:54:46, 0:54:47]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:54:48, 0:54:55]: Thank you. Okay, therefore. Now I need a motion. Well, we got the no now in the motion, adoption of the minutes. Stand by. [0:54:56, 0:55:16]: Minutes uh for adoption are August twelfth council meeting minutes, August 27th, the council work session minutes, August 21st, the Council retreat minutes, twenty august twenty-second, the council retreat minutes, and August 23rd, the council retreat minutes. All right. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. I'd like to approve the minutes. [0:55:16, 0:55:20]: with amendments that have been sent citiz to the city clerk. [0:55:21, 0:55:32]: All right. Well, first of all, those amendments that have been sent to city clerk. I do not know whether or not those amendments have been sent to everybody else to for them to vote on at this point. I've never sent revisions to the entire council. [0:55:32, 0:55:37]: Норгас каунсел сен ревизион корекція мade. [0:55:37, 0:55:38]: To the minutes. [0:55:39, 0:55:42]: Ma'am Madam Clerk, you received some amendment some changes to the [0:55:43, 0:55:48]: And and um and where do you stand on that? I mean what's we don't I have no idea what that's about. [0:55:50, 0:55:54]: Not um a lot of change to the actual minutes, it was verbiage. [0:55:55, 0:55:57]: Verb is such as um [0:55:57, 0:56:00]: Not really changing the content of the minutes. [0:56:08, 0:56:23]: Well in in addition to I'll stand by please. Madam Clerk, anything else at this point? All right, go ahead please. In addition to the discussion that we had during the retreat regarding reactivating the finance committee. [0:56:23, 0:56:24]: When I first spoke [0:56:25, 0:56:26]: about the finance committee. [0:56:27, 0:56:29]: I said I wanted to be the council liaison. [0:56:30, 0:56:31]: It was a city clerk. [0:56:32, 0:56:35]: Who corrected or advised that [0:56:36, 0:56:39]: There is no council liaison on the finance коміті. [0:56:40, 0:56:41]: It would be a chair. [0:56:41, 0:56:43]: She also informed all of us. [0:56:43, 0:56:44]: That the mayor [0:56:45, 0:56:46]: Газ респонсабілі. [0:56:46, 0:56:50]: Of reactivating and appointing a chair. [0:56:50, 0:56:52]: That information [0:56:52, 0:56:54]: Is not included. [0:56:54, 0:57:01]: In the minutes. All that's in the minutes is me asking the mayor to appoint me [0:57:01, 0:57:04]: Ас на Чер о Фінанс Коміті. [0:57:04, 0:57:06]: Listen, I don't wanna play any games. [0:57:07, 0:57:09]: We've got a long agenda. [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: Let's go ahead. [0:57:11, 0:57:15]: I want to move to approve the meeting minutes. [0:57:16, 0:57:21]: With the amendments that have been sent to the city clerk. [0:57:21, 0:57:22]: All of them. [0:57:24, 0:57:26]: Uh Mayor. Yeah, go ahead, please. [0:57:26, 0:57:37]: I I'm sorry, but um Miss Holiday, I can't approve minutes that I don't see. Can you please read those amended changes that are being requested? [0:57:37, 0:57:42]: If and any time we do ask for something to be amended or corrected is usually [0:57:43, 0:57:43]: During the [0:57:44, 0:57:55]: after the work session or or after a meeting before the minutes have to be approved and they were all they would already be approved in these minutes. So it's not [0:57:55, 0:57:57]: like um [0:57:58, 0:57:59]: What's being stated? [0:57:59, 0:58:02]: We actually request if we see an error. [0:58:02, 0:58:05]: will actually ask that [0:58:05, 0:58:15]: that be corrected and then it would actually be printed here in the meeting minutes. But I can't vote on something that was emailed by another council member if we didn't see it. [0:58:17, 0:58:24]: Madam Clerk, could you read that please? Could those those particular changes? I'm I'm not able to read it. Stand by, let her listen to what she has to say. [0:58:25, 0:58:34]: Go ahead please. The the amendments were sent out after the minutes were sent out to council. [0:58:36, 0:58:55]: I I came back from Athens today. I have not had an opportunity and that was stated. But there is a precedence set by this council where and it's stated by the mayor at the previous meeting, any changes that need to be made, please submit that to the clerk. That has happened. [0:58:56, 0:58:58]: I can't count the number of times. [0:58:58, 0:59:00]: And it there is a precedent there. [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: So what you all decide to do, they you don't have to t approve the minutes today? [0:59:06, 0:59:15]: Ms. Barber's asking that they be approved with the amendments. That has been customary, but it's up to the council what you choose to do today. [0:59:15, 0:59:24]: What are those changes though? What why what are those? What are the changes? I'm asking a clerk please. Okay. Clerk, what are those changes that you received? [0:59:25, 0:59:42]: I received the email mayor. I have not had the opportunity to include those and reprint those with amendments. Okay. That that's happened at meetings before. We have before sat here and had the amendments amended, approved with amendments. [0:59:43, 0:59:45]: has been the customary procedure here. [0:59:46, 0:59:46]: All right. [0:59:47, 0:59:57]: Council, you got any suggestions? I do, Mayor. Yes, Magoria, please. Let Councilwoman Barber read the changes that she wants to be made in the amendments. I mean in the in the minutes. Okay. [0:59:58, 1:00:00]: Can't go with you, gentlemen. [1:00:00, 1:00:02]: Go write it, please. Okay. [1:00:05, 1:00:11]: Most of these I provided screenshots of what is actually published and on the city's website. [1:00:12, 1:00:19]: Met for standby. [1:00:21, 1:00:28]: Fer for explanation of what you're referring to. Which set of minutes. There they're five the five before us. Which ones what days you're talking about? [1:00:33, 1:00:34]: August twelfth. [1:00:34, 1:00:45]: Okay, what's August 21st? Hold on, hold on. August twelfth. August 22nd? What is and August 23rd. Okay, for August 12th, what is it that you wanted to change to put in the what in there? Okay, Mayor Ford, if you allow me. [1:00:45, 1:00:49]: To read all the revisions that I sent. I'll be happy to do it. [1:00:50, 1:00:53]: Go right in. Okay. So I sent screenshots. [1:00:54, 1:00:58]: of sections of each of the minutes. [1:00:58, 1:01:00]: And I also provided [1:01:00, 1:01:05]: details of what she needs to correct. Most of these changes, if not all of them, [1:01:05, 1:01:08]: А статименц да I made. [1:01:10, 1:01:14]: No changes to any statements that anyone else made. [1:01:15, 1:01:16]: It looks like [1:01:16, 1:01:19]: My statements were misconstrued or [1:01:19, 1:01:21]: Just not worded. [1:01:21, 1:01:22]: Correctly. [1:01:22, 1:01:24]: So August twelfth. [1:01:27, 1:01:28]: Uh page four. [1:01:29, 1:01:36]: Where it says Council Member Barber stated that while she recognized the owner has a right to sell. [1:01:36, 1:01:40]: There are concerns regarding the rates of the future facility. [1:01:40, 1:01:42]: In comparison to the current rates. [1:01:43, 1:01:45]: And question the security of the access. [1:01:46, 1:01:47]: To the nearby subdivision. [1:01:49, 1:01:50]: My correction to that [1:01:51, 1:01:53]: My statement was that I was curious. [1:01:54, 1:01:58]: To know what the current rates were of the other facilities in comparison. [1:01:58, 1:01:59]: To the current rate. [1:02:00, 1:02:03]: That the existing patients or residents are paying. [1:02:04, 1:02:16]: The next statement I made, I also stated that I watched the Planning Commission meeting when this proposal was presented. I heard the concerns expressed by a resident who lives in the adjacent neighborhood. [1:02:16, 1:02:17]: The villages. [1:02:18, 1:02:19]: Regarding access [1:02:19, 1:02:20]: to their neighborhood. [1:02:21, 1:02:22]: I asked the [1:02:22, 1:02:28]: Potential new property owner if she has plans to restrict access into the adjacent neighborhood. [1:02:29, 1:02:31]: That was not included in the minutes, but it should be. [1:02:33, 1:02:34]: The next minutes. [1:02:34, 1:02:36]: August twenty second. [1:02:36, 1:02:38]: That was the retreat. [1:02:40, 1:02:43]: Um didn't include the page number. [1:02:43, 1:02:50]: But in the meeting minutes, it reads, Councilwoman Barber asked about the city's newsletter. [1:02:50, 1:02:52]: Noting only one copy. [1:02:53, 1:02:54]: Went out. [1:02:55, 1:02:55]: Two [1:02:56, 1:02:58]: The newly annexed residents. [1:02:59, 1:03:00]: That's not what I said. [1:03:01, 1:03:03]: I stated that I would be um [1:03:05, 1:03:08]: А сед а стати да онлива ньюзлетер. [1:03:08, 1:03:12]: was published and mailed out in twenty twenty three. [1:03:12, 1:03:18]: Noting that the newsletter was not sent to the newly annexed residents. [1:03:22, 1:03:22]: Continue. [1:03:23, 1:03:25]: Yes, go ahead. [1:03:25, 1:03:27]: Um then there's another section. [1:03:28, 1:03:34]: Councilmember Barber noted there needs to be more focused on recruitment and interns for departments. [1:03:35, 1:03:36]: Um [1:03:38, 1:03:41]: I said I inquired about internships. [1:03:42, 1:03:43]: Please correct. [1:03:43, 1:03:45]: Not interns. [1:03:46, 1:03:48]: My question was to the [1:03:48, 1:03:49]: HR director. [1:03:50, 1:03:51]: The next one? [1:03:52, 1:03:53]: Please correct. [1:03:53, 1:03:54]: I said [1:03:54, 1:03:56]: Councilmember Barber noted. [1:03:56, 1:04:00]: The city has imposed a city tax on the residents. [1:04:00, 1:04:02]: And increase the cost. [1:04:02, 1:04:05]: for the entertainment for residents and non-residents. [1:04:06, 1:04:10]: That is what's noted in the minutes, but that's not what I said. [1:04:11, 1:04:15]: Вот I said was year over year there has been an increase. [1:04:16, 1:04:17]: To the proposed budget. [1:04:18, 1:04:19]: For free entertainment. [1:04:20, 1:04:21]: That's what I said. [1:04:22, 1:04:23]: For the record. [1:04:25, 1:04:28]: Then there is another section of that same meeting. [1:04:29, 1:04:41]: Councilmember Barber noted that there is a$2 million budget approved by the Council for the Amphitheater Consultant and Expenditures and asked who is responsible for reconciling the amphitheater reports. [1:04:43, 1:04:44]: That's what's in the minutes. [1:04:45, 1:04:47]: What I asked is for her to please correct. [1:04:48, 1:04:51]: Noted that there are two milyen dollars budgeted. [1:04:51, 1:04:52]: That was approved by the council. [1:04:53, 1:04:55]: For the operations of the amphitheater. [1:04:55, 1:04:57]: Also noted that budget amendments [1:04:58, 1:04:59]: should be presented. [1:04:59, 1:05:00]: To the council. [1:05:01, 1:05:02]: No, they haven't been. [1:05:03, 1:05:04]: I said that too. [1:05:08, 1:05:08]: The next one. [1:05:10, 1:05:10]: Same day. [1:05:12, 1:05:13]: Councilmember Barber. [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: Made a request to Mayor Ford. [1:05:17, 1:05:19]: to appoint to be appointed. [1:05:19, 1:05:22]: Chair of the Finance Committee. [1:05:22, 1:05:30]: And noted, she is the only member of the count council currently not serving on a board or committee in any capacity. [1:05:31, 1:05:33]: My correction to her was that [1:05:33, 1:05:34]: Please correct. [1:05:35, 1:05:38]: Council member Barber made a request. [1:05:38, 1:05:42]: of Mayor Ford to reactivate the finance committee. [1:05:42, 1:05:43]: I also said [1:05:44, 1:05:48]: Та чи во данно в фінанс коміті. [1:05:49, 1:05:50]: And note it. [1:05:51, 1:05:54]: I am the only member of the council who is not serving. [1:05:54, 1:05:57]: as a council liaison on a board or committee. [1:06:00, 1:06:03]: The clerk was the one who advised. [1:06:03, 1:06:04]: She's the one. [1:06:05, 1:06:08]: Who advised that the mayor has the responsibility? [1:06:08, 1:06:09]: Of appointing the chair. [1:06:10, 1:06:11]: to the finance committee. [1:06:13, 1:06:16]: I had asked to be the council liaison. [1:06:17, 1:06:23]: That was my original request, but that's not in the minutes. So it just looks as though I asked the mayor. [1:06:24, 1:06:25]: To just make me a chair. [1:06:26, 1:06:28]: But it doesn't show. [1:06:28, 1:06:32]: That the city clerk advised or informed the council. [1:06:33, 1:06:37]: That the ме the mayor has the responsibility of appointing the chair. [1:06:37, 1:06:39]: So all of this is really [1:06:40, 1:06:44]: small little details, but I'm gonna continue on because you asked me to. [1:06:53, 1:06:55]: The next one is August twenty third. [1:06:58, 1:07:00]: Um and [1:07:01, 1:07:03]: Page is this. Page four. [1:07:04, 1:07:10]: Councilmember Barber asks what the impact is on the city when shows are canceled. [1:07:11, 1:07:13]: I asked her to please correct. [1:07:14, 1:07:18]: What I asked was what is the impact to the amphitheater budget? [1:07:19, 1:07:22]: when concerts are cancelled or rescheduled. [1:07:23, 1:07:23]: And then [1:07:24, 1:07:24]: After [1:07:25, 1:07:27]: I got a response from Mr. Young. [1:07:27, 1:07:28]: I followed up. [1:07:28, 1:07:29]: By asking [1:07:30, 1:07:33]: Why would we pay a hundred percent of the expenses? [1:07:33, 1:07:38]: For the rescheduled concerts due to factors that are out of our control. [1:07:38, 1:07:39]: Such as the weather. [1:07:40, 1:07:45]: And ask, are there rescheduled shows being renegotiated? [1:07:46, 1:07:47]: So I want that added. [1:07:49, 1:07:50]: Then there is [1:07:52, 1:07:53]: Page. [1:07:53, 1:07:54]: Page four. [1:07:56, 1:08:00]: Councilmember Barber asked if the funds can be reallocated. [1:08:02, 1:08:05]: And she just shows mister Wall confirmed. [1:08:06, 1:08:08]: So I asked her to please clarify. [1:08:09, 1:08:13]: What did Mr. Walls confirm because it's not included in the minutes? [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: Then August twenty first. [1:08:18, 1:08:24]: Councilmember Barber asked who is responsible for reviewing the city's housing inventory? [1:08:27, 1:08:34]: Noting as has been stated, there have been a number of developments approved, specifically [1:08:34, 1:08:46]: multifamily developments, noting there has been a lack of single family detached homes and developments that have come before the council for approval and these types of affordable, [1:08:46, 1:08:47]: Developments are what are needed [1:08:48, 1:08:50]: In the city. That's not what I said. [1:08:52, 1:08:54]: But Miss Holliday, of course. [1:08:55, 1:08:57]: She's it's not being recorded. [1:08:58, 1:09:01]: These were all minutes taken during the council's retreat. [1:09:03, 1:09:05]: So what I asked her is [1:09:06, 1:09:07]: I reiterated. [1:09:07, 1:09:10]: That diverse housing options are needed. [1:09:11, 1:09:11]: Please correct. [1:09:12, 1:09:14]: There have been more than [1:09:15, 1:09:16]: There have been [1:09:16, 1:09:20]: More multifamily developments approved by a city council [1:09:21, 1:09:22]: For district four. [1:09:23, 1:09:26]: There have been a lack of development proposals. [1:09:26, 1:09:27]: Four [1:09:27, 1:09:29]: Single family detached homes [1:09:30, 1:09:31]: Present it to the council. [1:09:31, 1:09:35]: And that diverse housing options are needed in the city. [1:09:36, 1:09:37]: I'll continue. [1:09:37, 1:09:38]: What? [1:09:38, 1:09:58]: I know, but point of order. We are wasting the citizens' time with petty items. These people, I know they don't want to sit here all night and listen to this. It it might be better that we table this, come back, read the notes. Everybody can come back and have a detail to it. How many more do how much more time? [1:09:58, 1:10:07]: Time do you need to for us to delay the meeting? That's all I'm asking. How much we have to do. Well, no, I don't need any time. Your mayor asked me to do this, so I am. [1:10:08, 1:10:15]: Um I I'm not here to play any games. Never has this council ever been asked [1:10:16, 1:10:18]: To provide [1:10:19, 1:10:25]: What corrections they submitted to our meeting minutes. We what not necessarily meet. [1:10:26, 1:10:29]: The rules seem to always change when it comes to me. [1:10:30, 1:10:38]: I'm here for it. So if you have some more, listen so we so we can approve this if or whatever the case the council's gonna decide you how much more do you have uh to mention here? A lot more. [1:10:39, 1:10:52]: Exactly. Let's table this and then bring it back to the next meeting so everybody can read it. Come forward. We can't not sit here and now we got a bunch of s business, actual business to conduct. This is this is ludicrous. [1:10:52, 1:10:56]: Mayor Ford. Mr Mr Thomas, please. [1:10:57, 1:11:11]: I'm I'm gonna yield to to the clerk. Oh, go ahead, clerk comment. Mayor, just just to be clear for everyone to know, the city of Stockbridge, the charter states that minutes are done by summary. [1:11:12, 1:11:14]: Not verbatim. Right. [1:11:15, 1:11:24]: And the retreat is those meetings were not televised, they were not recorded, those are handwritten notes. [1:11:24, 1:11:29]: And they are by summary, they are not verbale. [1:11:29, 1:11:39]: I try to take what content comes out of those meetings and summarize those meetings as best that I can to [1:11:39, 1:11:40]: Brains. [1:11:40, 1:11:45]: To the history, what has happened at the meeting is not verbatim. [1:11:47, 1:11:53]: All right. Mr. Thomas. [1:11:53, 1:12:00]: Uh Mayor and Council, uh I I I think it would serve all of us best. [1:12:00, 1:12:02]: It will allow [1:12:02, 1:12:05]: Councilwoman Barber to [1:12:05, 1:12:16]: get with the city clerk to ensure that her comments were properly um recorded and noted. [1:12:16, 1:12:18]: And we bring the minutes back. [1:12:19, 1:12:24]: Once all of the corrections have been made. I tried to take notes here. [1:12:24, 1:12:26]: Um it it's a lot to try to [1:12:27, 1:12:28]: Field the end, but [1:12:29, 1:12:41]: I think it would serve all of us best. A second thing. If if the clerk and Ms. Barber get together with the record and bring all of the minutes back with all of the corrections, all of the updates. [1:12:41, 1:12:52]: And we approve of the minutes that way. Uh and I think that would serve all of us best. I think Councilwoman Barber, if this would satisfy you to make sure that [1:12:52, 1:12:53]: Your comments. [1:12:54, 1:12:56]: Excuse me. If your comments [1:12:57, 1:12:59]: or properly recorded. [1:12:59, 1:13:01]: Then we can all come back. [1:13:01, 1:13:04]: And approve the minutes. [1:13:04, 1:13:07]: If that's okay, I think that would serve all of us best. [1:13:08, 1:13:10]: I'm taking that as a motion to table council member [1:13:11, 1:13:31]: Yes. Yes, I I I will second that motion uh and certainly uh agreed to do that, understanding that this is uh what what needs to happen and in defense of the clerk. But that she's she stated accurately. This is a summary. I look at those notes, I trust her, and I think she's gonna do the right thing. So thank you. [1:13:31, 1:13:40]: Mel Foy, please in that motion, and if Councilwoman Barber's okay with it, just let Mrs. Barber [1:13:40, 1:13:55]: And the clerk get together and correct the minutes. I don't think we need any more comments about it. And if that is satisfied everyone, we'll come back and approve the minutes with those corrections. Second. Thank you. [1:13:57, 1:13:59]: I'm assuming Miss Barber, you all right with that? [1:14:00, 1:14:05]: If I may second the motion, I would. Well it's already it's already been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:14:06, 1:14:10]: All right, fantastic. Okay, let's move on. Um, Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [1:14:11, 1:14:14]: We do have one public comment from Mr. [1:14:15, 1:14:16]: Tim Callahan. [1:14:16, 1:14:20]: All right, sir. Come on up, please. [1:14:25, 1:14:30]: Good evening, folks. Good evening. Name and address, please, sir. Tim Callahan, 146, Oakwood Circle. Okay. Stockbridge. [1:14:31, 1:14:51]: Uh, I'm coming to you uh in light of uh the recent developments of uh expansion of the Westside Connector and added housing units on Hudson Bridge Road. Uh recent traffic study uh presented to the city marked up that area as service level E, meaning that it's a very poor traffic zoned area. And I asked that the council [1:14:51, 1:14:52]: [4493.0, 4498.1]: Putting some scrutiny to any developments in the area related to that traffic tie up. [1:14:58, 1:15:02]: Uh, particularly along Hudget Bridge Drive, where uh [1:15:03, 1:15:11]: People just kind of ignore the the traffic markings on the uh I believe it's north side of Hudson Bridge Drive. Um [1:15:11, 1:15:23]: The new developments that are proposed are going to add traffic, the expanded traffic with the ex uh West Side Connection, which I applaud. I will bring more traffic through there as well as flip and road, which I know you don't control. [1:15:23, 1:15:35]: But I do ask that as you consider the developments in this area, please expand that consideration to the fact that it will cause a substantial amount of traffic flow through there and the investment is gonna fall to the city, not to the developers. [1:15:36, 1:15:38]: Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Appreciate your comments. [1:15:39, 1:15:43]: On that note, ladies and gentlemen, we before we had our actual meeting, of course, several. [1:15:46, 1:15:47]: Okay. Mr. Glenn? [1:15:47, 1:15:48]: Call him forward, please. [1:16:01, 1:16:07]: Name and address, please, Mr. Glenn. Mark Glenn, uh 199 Eagles Club Drive, Stockbridge. [1:16:09, 1:16:10]: Oh yeah, please. [1:16:11, 1:16:31]: My comment is is around the uh zoning request. I believe it's on item number six. That's correct. Um Mr. Glenn, you're not able to speak to any item on the agenda and it has to be a non-agenda item for public comments. You're welcome to speak during the public hearing portion of the meeting. [1:16:31, 1:16:32]: For that particular item. [1:16:32, 1:16:40]: Oh, okay. All right. Thank you. I appreciate it. Mayor Ford. Yes, yes, ma'am. Um, I made a request to amend the agenda. [1:16:40, 1:16:42]: Um and one of the items. [1:16:43, 1:16:44]: was not addressed. [1:16:45, 1:16:57]: That was council discussion to a fine to define a policy or procedure to dispose of city owned real estate properties. I believe you asked that there's no second to the motion. [1:16:58, 1:17:18]: That's right. There was no second to the motion. There was no second to the motion. That's why. That's why we moved on. And we'll continue to move on. Thank you, sir. Thank you. All right. So uh on the ceremonial uh part of the meeting, prior to prior to the meeting, we have several different proclamations to identify the Hispanic Heritage Month, which is from September 15th to October 15th. Um, Mr. Jimmy Floyd. [1:17:18, 1:17:38]: Fleming retired from Vulcan Materials, been a very uh very good partner uh with the city of Starbries and with the community. Uh well over a 30-year relationship with uh Falcon, of course, and with our our community. And what he mentioned in his comments, if I recall distinctly that uh Vulcon Materials has had the long [1:17:38, 1:17:44]: long standing relationship with Stockbridge in the um in the quarry and the the material [1:17:44, 1:18:04]: industry more than any other place that they've have ownership of. So they've been in the community for many, many years. Um Georgia Reed's proclamation and and in a sense was uh was read as well, uh introducing and and acknowledging the uh Georgia Reed's and for our children in our schools, trying to [1:18:04, 1:18:24]: allow them and give them more access to reading. And we also had a proclamation for National Uh Assistant Living Week identifying those individuals that live in assistant living facilities. And our water department and uh well actually our water plant and a water treatment plant both received platinum and gold awards for their outstanding [1:18:24, 1:18:44]: work and what it amounts to is that uh when it comes to public works, there's something that uh I guess a lot of times we take for granted. They do do a lot of heavy lifting and for the infrastructure and on the mission for the city itself. Um but we don't talk about that enough. We have other things typically we talk about, but they've obviously they've been doing [1:18:44, 1:18:49]: extremely well to receive these awards over the course of the the last twelve years or so. [1:18:50, 1:19:08]: And then uh swore several individuals into the Public Facilities Committee, the DDA and our ethics uh board. Uh I believe I covered all those, so we had a very extensive uh ceremonial portion of our meeting tonight. And on that note, um move on. [1:19:11, 1:19:22]: to a presentation. The presentation deals with the FY twenty twenty three audit report presented by uh Hope Penegrass of Malden and Jenkins and involving also Ms. Gaines as well. [1:19:24, 1:19:24]: Thank you. [1:19:26, 1:19:29]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. How are you doing this evening? Evening. [1:19:29, 1:19:37]: Uh Marlon and Jenkins are here to present the FY23 budget. We have Hope Prendergrass and her associate, Mr. Kirk Erich. [1:19:46, 1:19:48]: Appreciate you uh appreciate the fact that you all are here. [1:19:51, 1:19:55]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, I appreciate the opportunity to come and speak to you all today. [1:19:56, 1:20:10]: I did put together a short PowerPoint presentation that will um essentially summarize the information that's already been included in your agenda packet. There are no there's no new information here, but I just kinda wanted to have a visual aid to assist me. [1:20:18, 1:20:36]: So, um, we're here today to talk about the 2023 audit. Uh, we'll be going through a few things, tell you a little bit more about your engagement team at Malton and Jenkin. We'll talk about the results of the audit, some financial trends, upcoming GASBE pronouncements. GASBY is the governing body that governs the accounting. [1:20:37, 1:20:42]: um policies and financial reporting for governments and then I'll be happy to address any questions you may have. [1:20:44, 1:21:02]: So I think y'all are familiar with us. Moln and Jenkins audits more than seven hundred and twenty-five governments throughout the southeast, across six states, including fourteen offices. 180 plus of those entities are cities like yourself. Some just as small as a few thousand people, all the way up to the city of Atlanta itself. [1:21:05, 1:21:15]: Um there are certain things that we are required to report to you all by the auditing standards. One of those is that our responsibility, um [1:21:15, 1:21:21]: is that we audit the financial statements. It's management's responsibility to take ownership of those financial statements. [1:21:25, 1:21:40]: So for the fiscal year ended 1231 23, we did have an unmodified or clean opinion on your financial statements, meaning that we determined that they are materially correct in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles for governmental entities. [1:21:41, 1:22:01]: Um you also have other reports that are included in your annual comprehensive financial report or your ACFER. This includes the report on internal control as well as something that y'all don't have every year, but some years it just depends on the level of federal funding that you have. You also have a report on your federal program. [1:22:01, 1:22:06]: in accordance with the uniform guidance. We did have um [1:22:07, 1:22:27]: Six findings this year. It looks like I left off a bullet, but we had um five having to do with your financial statements and one having to do with your federal programs. None of these are anything that I don't think is easily correctable. The city had a lot of stuff going on this year, had a newer finance staff, so we did have some things that need to be tightened up for next year, but I see that. [1:22:27, 1:22:31]: that the the staff you have in place should be able to accommodate that easily. [1:22:33, 1:22:53]: So again, you had a single audit which is performed in accordance with the uniform guidance. We tested two of your major federal programs, one of that being your coronavirus state and local fiscal recovery funds. A lot of times those funds are referred to as ARPA funds because ARPA was the federal appropriation of those funds. We also tested your COPS grant. [1:22:53, 1:22:57]: Those grants were new this year because you all have a um police department. [1:22:58, 1:23:00]: So you were getting those grant funds? [1:23:01, 1:23:16]: Um we did have what we call an unmodified or clean opinion on your CSL FRF. We did have a qualified opinion on your COPS grant. That just means that there was one area of which we could not report as a clean opinion and that had to do in regard to reporting. [1:23:18, 1:23:31]: These next few slides include our required communications. Again, we are required by the standards to communicate to you all certain things. As far as your significant accounting policies, those are described in your ACFER in note one. [1:23:33, 1:23:53]: Um this year, GASME 96. Again, GASME is the authoritative body that governs financial reporting for entities like yourselves. This one had to do with subscription-based information technology arrangements. So we had to consider that. That would be where y'all are paying over multiple years for some kind of license to use a software. So we had to consider. [1:23:53, 1:24:00]: Consider that and the reporting thereof, but we it was determined that there were no material agreements to report under that standard. [1:24:01, 1:24:08]: Um your s your statements include various estimates and we determined that those were proper. [1:24:10, 1:24:28]: And there are certain footnote disclosures included in your um ACFAR that I always tell people is good bedtime reading, but those are included in there. We did receive full cooperation from management and staff and had no disagreements on accounting issues or for n financial reporting matters. [1:24:30, 1:24:50]: Um there were no past adjustments, which means all the adjustments that we proposed were accepted by management. We did have several audit adjustments again as I referenced earlier, and as you all know, you have a newer accounting staff, and so we did um have several accounting adjustments. Um those were provided to and discussed with management. [1:24:50, 1:25:05]: As part of the audit completion each year, we require um representation from management, i.e., you've told us everything, you've given us everything that you know, and so we had no issues obtaining that representation from management. [1:25:06, 1:25:12]: We are not aware of any consultation with other accountants, and again there were no significant issues discussed with management. [1:25:14, 1:25:21]: Um, let's see. The important thing here is that we are considered to be independent in regard to the city. [1:25:24, 1:25:44]: The next session talks briefly about financial trends. So this is a five year history of your revenues and expenditures. Um as you'll see there, your revenues are in the and transfers and other financing sources are in the gold. Um the dark gray color is your expenditures. So this year your revenues did outpace your expenditures. [1:25:44, 1:25:56]: And on this next slide, we have a five-year history of your expenditures versus your fund balance. You know, there was a period of time that you all had fund balance in excess of your annual expenditures. [1:25:56, 1:26:15]: With the implementation of a lot of your initiatives in recent years, that's kind of flip-flopped to be more in line with what we see elsewhere at other communities that we work with. As of six uh 1231-23, y'all had approximately 18% of fund balance when you compare it to annual expenditures. [1:26:15, 1:26:16]: Um [1:26:19, 1:26:32]: I've talked about GASME 96. That was it would have been implemented this year if you had any qualified agreements. These next two slides just talk about some of the upcoming GASMEs, things that you will have to implement in the coming years. [1:26:34, 1:26:38]: which we will communicate with management and and advise them as appropriate. [1:26:40, 1:26:57]: And the last thing I want to talk about is part of our service. We provide free continuing education to management and counsel if they should desire to attend when we just talk about emerging topics, things that are relevant to accounting and financial reporting in the governmental industry. We've been doing that for about fifteen years now. [1:26:58, 1:27:00]: And um we do about once a quarter and we have about [1:27:00, 1:27:17]: Let's see, this last time we had about 250 different people from various entities attend. So should that be something that you're interested in, if you want to learn about debits and credits, we'd um like for you to attend. The information on how to attend is included in the slideshow as well as in the um information that you received earlier. [1:27:18, 1:27:27]: Thank you for your briefing and uh for your continued support and uh and being uh our auditor for the city stoppage all these years. Council questions. [1:27:30, 1:27:34]: Thank you. [1:27:35, 1:27:43]: Hi. Hey. I have a lot of questions. Okay. Um, most of them are procedural questions. Yes, ma'am. Okay. [1:27:43, 1:27:54]: Is your email address H P E N D E R G R A S S at M J C P A dot com? Yes, ma'am. Okay. [1:27:54, 1:27:57]: I sent four emails last year. [1:27:57, 1:27:58]: Requesting [1:27:58, 1:28:01]: The audit results from twenty twenty two. [1:28:02, 1:28:10]: And I didn't get a reply back. So I just wanted to confirm your email address. Um the other question I have is. [1:28:12, 1:28:19]: And you tell me. Okay. Because I'm trying to get a better understanding of this process. And I know how our city [1:28:19, 1:28:20]: has been handling [1:28:21, 1:28:23]: The audit since I've been here. [1:28:23, 1:28:24]: But I'm concerned. [1:28:25, 1:28:27]: So to maintain the integrity. [1:28:27, 1:28:28]: Of the audit. [1:28:28, 1:28:35]: Because it is a independent audit. Yes, ma'am. Independent from any other report. [1:28:35, 1:28:37]: The staff provides [1:28:38, 1:28:40]: When you send the audit results. [1:28:42, 1:28:44]: They're supposed to come from your hands. [1:28:45, 1:28:46]: Into our hands. [1:28:47, 1:28:49]: Not from your hands. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: To staff's hands. [1:28:52, 1:28:53]: For staff to give to us. [1:28:54, 1:28:55]: And that is exactly [1:28:56, 1:28:57]: What happened this year? [1:28:59, 1:29:00]: Last year. [1:29:01, 1:29:05]: In previous years, I'm not saying anybody is doing anything wrong. [1:29:05, 1:29:08]: I just don't want to give the appearance that there is. [1:29:09, 1:29:16]: So industry standard and is outlined in our engagement letter is that we provide all our reports to management to provide to the governing body. [1:29:16, 1:29:20]: Okay, who management being the city manager and [1:29:20, 1:29:24]: I usually provide those to to the city of Startbridge City Treasurer. [1:29:24, 1:29:25]: Okay. [1:29:25, 1:29:30]: So to maintain the integrity and the independence [1:29:30, 1:29:31]: Is it [1:29:32, 1:29:43]: appropriate for you as for you to email the results to the governing body so that there's no interference and that we're getting exactly what you report. [1:29:44, 1:29:54]: I mean, I would probably have to do some research because like I said, I mean, industry standard is such that we we provide that information to management to distribute to the governing body. That's laid out in our engagement letter. [1:29:55, 1:29:58]: Okay, so the council doesn't get the engagement letter. [1:29:59, 1:30:00]: So I wouldn't know what [1:30:00, 1:30:03]: You've agreed to in the engagement letter. [1:30:03, 1:30:04]: Until [1:30:04, 1:30:10]: The actual results are provided to us from staff. That's not independent. [1:30:11, 1:30:26]: So it's my previous understanding that the engagement letter was a presented as a council agenda item at the at the annual I think in January when y'all approve several different things. Mr. Gardner is not. Mr. Gardner, come to mic. It is not a good thing. Come to the mic, please. [1:30:26, 1:30:28]: It has never [1:30:28, 1:30:30]: been presented to the council. [1:30:30, 1:30:31]: At the beginning of the year. [1:30:32, 1:30:33]: At the end of the year. [1:30:34, 1:30:38]: Or in the middle of the year, we only get it when we get the audit results. [1:30:40, 1:30:43]: Need your assistance to make resolve this issue, this concern? [1:30:44, 1:30:44]: Yeah. [1:30:44, 1:30:55]: Well, um it is my understanding of the engagement letter I think comes as part of the audit. Um I know when we um [1:30:55, 1:31:05]: When we put the RFP out obviously those um the RFP comes back with their qualifications and all of that information involving it. Can you speak up Mr. Carter? Yes, ma'am. [1:31:06, 1:31:25]: But it's my understanding of it is when y'all get the audit report, I think a copy of the engagement letter is typically included in that in that document, if I'm not mistaken. And I I think as Miss Penegrass said, I mean, everywhere I've worked in the state of Georgia as city manager. [1:31:26, 1:31:29]: And as a department head is my understanding that that document is sent to [1:31:30, 1:31:37]: Either the finance director, city manager, or management staff, and then on to city council. That's my seven years in East Point, that's how it was done. [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: Okay. [1:31:39, 1:31:42]: Well m doctor, you need to stand by. [1:31:42, 1:31:46]: Mr well Mayor Ford, if I may continue please. I didn't stop you, go ahead. [1:31:46, 1:31:47]: Okay. [1:31:47, 1:31:49]: So this is a independent [1:31:50, 1:31:50]: Audit. [1:31:51, 1:31:52]: It is supposed to [1:31:53, 1:31:54]: Be provided. [1:31:54, 1:31:55]: To the governing body. [1:31:56, 1:31:58]: It is for us. [1:31:59, 1:32:01]: It's for the governing body. [1:32:02, 1:32:04]: Not just for staff. [1:32:06, 1:32:12]: So to make sure we're maintaining the independence of your audit results. [1:32:13, 1:32:14]: What I am requesting is [1:32:15, 1:32:17]: Is that if you would please [1:32:18, 1:32:21]: Please email the audit results to the governing body. [1:32:21, 1:32:24]: You can include the city manager. [1:32:24, 1:32:26]: And the treasurer as well. [1:32:27, 1:32:28]: We should all be getting it. [1:32:28, 1:32:29]: At the same time. [1:32:30, 1:32:33]: I'm not saying anybody is doing anything wrong. [1:32:33, 1:32:38]: All I'm saying is it is independent for a reason. [1:32:39, 1:32:40]: Last year [1:32:40, 1:32:42]: I spent ten months. [1:32:42, 1:32:43]: Asking. [1:32:44, 1:32:47]: For the independent audit results. [1:32:47, 1:32:50]: From twenty twenty two financials. [1:32:51, 1:32:53]: Your audit results [1:32:54, 1:32:57]: And I don't know if it was the complete audit or not. [1:32:58, 1:33:02]: All I saw was several pages that were combined. [1:33:03, 1:33:04]: With the CAFA report. [1:33:05, 1:33:08]: The CAFA report is a finance report. [1:33:08, 1:33:11]: that our finance department prepares. [1:33:11, 1:33:12]: So it was all [1:33:12, 1:33:13]: Intermingled. [1:33:14, 1:33:17]: Авнор с орсо пейджет. [1:33:18, 1:33:19]: I couldn't decipher. [1:33:20, 1:33:23]: What was provided by Malden and Jenkins? [1:33:24, 1:33:25]: Or what staff prepared? [1:33:27, 1:33:28]: This is supposed to be. [1:33:29, 1:33:30]: A independent [1:33:31, 1:33:32]: Audit. [1:33:32, 1:33:36]: І тобі сепарт фенітінс. [1:33:36, 1:33:37]: I spent ten months. [1:33:38, 1:33:39]: Asking. [1:33:40, 1:33:44]: Four times I sent emails. So let me ask you this. [1:33:44, 1:33:47]: If I have a question after today. [1:33:47, 1:33:54]: Am I able to reach out to you and ask you questions regarding our FY 2023 financials? [1:33:55, 1:34:02]: The the standard process is the if council has questions and they direct that to management who directs it to us. [1:34:03, 1:34:05]: So we don't have access. [1:34:05, 1:34:07]: to reach out to you directly. [1:34:12, 1:34:32]: Well let me do let me do this. Something I want to ask I'm asking her I understand what you're asking. But representing the CPA firm. I'm understanding. I want to understand what her and the rest of the council. Stand by a second. You should realize that whatever directive you give to any independent contractor is a good idea. I didn't say I was giving anybody any directions. [1:34:32, 1:34:52]: Directly it should be a consensus from the council to Mayor Ford. It should be a consensus from the council if you want something directly. The council needs to make sure I'm not going well for a consensus from the council. Well so that this independent audit result remains independent. Understand it, but any directive that you may give is out of line with the charge. [1:34:52, 1:35:03]: charter and out of line within if we don't get a consensus from the charter mandates that we have an independent audit performed every year. It doesn't tell us how the CPA firm should conduct it. [1:35:04, 1:35:07]: What I'm asking her as a pro [1:35:07, 1:35:10]: As a professional CPA. [1:35:10, 1:35:11]: representative. [1:35:11, 1:35:13]: She knows her processes. [1:35:13, 1:35:15]: She knows where I'm going. [1:35:15, 1:35:19]: This is a independent audit. [1:35:19, 1:35:21]: Supposed to be completely separate. [1:35:22, 1:35:42]: The purpose of the audit is to make sure there is no waste, fraud, or abuse. If there is waste, fraud, or abuse, it makes no sense to give it to staff for them to keep the books, clean it up, re award, fix whatever adjustments they need to make, and then [1:35:41, 1:35:45]: Send it to the council on order. I'm trying to avoid [1:35:45, 1:36:05]: Any more confusion. May I finish the state? There's a point of order. There's a point of order. Right. I've asked questions. Specific questions, please. I'm going if you will stop cutting me off. May I finish? Go ask specific questions. May I finish. Ask specific questions. [1:36:05, 1:36:24]: I ask specific questions, please. May I finish my questions without any interruption? No, no, I can't guarantee that. From this guy right here, may I finish my questions to Miss Pendergrass since I can't get a hold of her outside of these meetings? [1:36:25, 1:36:45]: She does not respond to me via emails. Point of order, I want to make sure that I understand. Mayor Ford it is customized customary procedurally. Right. This is argumentative and going beyond the thr the pale. Mayor Ford, Mr. Elder. May I finish my question? Mr. [1:36:44, 1:36:47]: I understand, understand. [1:36:48, 1:37:08]: We cannot give you directives unless there are directives on anything unless the entire council agrees to that. You you mentioned about your Pacific Industries, which is to the staff. The fifth city manager is the point of contact there in that aspect. So things, if things go if that happens, it goes to city manager, the city manager needs to give it to the council, unless the council has a claim. [1:37:08, 1:37:13]: Not one individual, not even me. [1:37:13, 1:37:14]: Okay? [1:37:15, 1:37:20]: continue on with answering specific questions that Miss Barber may have. [1:37:21, 1:37:23]: Thank you. May I finish? [1:37:24, 1:37:27]: Without you interrupting me. I can't guarantee that. Go ahead. Okay. [1:37:28, 1:37:29]: Aut of respect. [1:37:30, 1:37:31]: To the council. [1:37:32, 1:37:33]: To the public. [1:37:33, 1:37:35]: And the people who are here. [1:37:35, 1:37:37]: I'm going to keep fighting. [1:37:37, 1:37:39]: For transparency. [1:37:39, 1:37:44]: And the way we govern and the way we do business. [1:37:44, 1:37:47]: We have a contract with Malden and Jenkins. [1:37:48, 1:37:51]: They do what we need for them to do. [1:37:52, 1:37:54]: They are a contractor. [1:37:55, 1:37:59]: I don't know. Ask her specific questions, please. Miss Pendergrass. [1:38:00, 1:38:04]: The engagement letter. Is it signed by management? [1:38:04, 1:38:06]: Yes, ma'am. Okay. We don't have a copy. [1:38:07, 1:38:10]: Of the signed page of the engagement letter. [1:38:12, 1:38:15]: We just have this one page right here. So where's the second page? [1:38:15, 1:38:29]: That's the that's the management letter. The document that you're holding up appears to be the management letter'cause it has our signature at the bottom. The engagement letter um I think was on the agenda, but I agree it was the unsigned copy. I'm not sure why the signed copy wasn't posted. [1:38:29, 1:38:33]: Okay, so yeah, there's a lot of issues. [1:38:34, 1:38:39]: The engagement letter is what I asked for last year and I was expecting it this year as well. [1:38:40, 1:38:43]: All I want is to get a understanding [1:38:43, 1:38:45]: Of what you [1:38:45, 1:38:50]: are supposed to do and what I'm supposed to do. I want to be able to do my job. [1:38:51, 1:38:57]: I can't trust the results of your audit if it's being passed along. [1:38:58, 1:39:04]: And I don't know what changes and I'm not saying that staff or anyone has done anything wrong. [1:39:05, 1:39:13]: All I want is to make sure that it comes from your hands into my hands. So there there's no compromise in between. [1:39:14, 1:39:18]: Absolutely not. My my councilmates see no issue. [1:39:19, 1:39:21]: They see no issue with it. I do. [1:39:21, 1:39:24]: Because it gives way to um [1:39:26, 1:39:27]: Other things. [1:39:27, 1:39:29]: And that's not what we want here. [1:39:30, 1:39:35]: All I want is when I have questions, I want to be able to ask you directly. [1:39:35, 1:39:46]: So going forward, any contractor, I don't care who it is, if I have questions, I I want to be able to ask them directly. I don't wanna have to ask staff to ask the contractor. [1:39:48, 1:39:49]: That's an issue for me. [1:39:50, 1:39:51]: Um the other thing [1:39:52, 1:39:55]: The budget adjustments, I asked for them. [1:39:56, 1:39:56]: Last year. [1:39:57, 1:39:59]: Фоні твої ту фінаншил. [1:39:59, 1:40:03]: You said that you sent them to management, and if you had not sent them, you would send them [1:40:04, 1:40:05]: Well, I never got them. [1:40:06, 1:40:13]: They were provided to management. I'm not sure what the process is to provide documents to council. This is what I'm talking about. Right here. [1:40:13, 1:40:24]: I've asked for budget adjustments. You mean the audit adjustments? Because we don't do budget adjustments. Well, the adjustments that staff made as a result of [1:40:24, 1:40:39]: Your communications Yes ma'am, that would be audit adjustments, not audit adjustments. You're right. Thank you. I'm sorry. Audit adjustments. Those audit adjustments are what I asked for last year and I want them this year. [1:40:39, 1:40:41]: And going forward, I want them. [1:40:41, 1:40:43]: My countsmates, they don't read anything. [1:40:43, 1:40:45]: They don't read contracts or anything. I do. [1:40:46, 1:40:47]: So I like to have those. [1:40:48, 1:40:49]: Um [1:40:51, 1:41:07]: Again, I want to make sure the integrity of your report um remains whole and uncompromised. I would I am requesting that you send your audit results directly to every member of the governing body. [1:41:07, 1:41:08]: At the same time that you send it. [1:41:09, 1:41:12]: To staff, so we don't just get it on the back end. Thank you. [1:41:13, 1:41:33]: Mayor. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Thank you, uh Mr. P Ms. Pendle. I I thank you for being patient with us and uh answering all of the questions that have been placed upon you. The audit process, you said Maldon and Jenkins audit how many cities in Georgia? Over a hundred well, we audit 180 throughout the southeast, across sixty. [1:41:33, 1:41:34]: States. [1:41:34, 1:41:54]: Okay. What you are doing here in Stockbridge is similar in what your format is that you're doing in all the It's the exact same. If we had a a city of two thousand people or if we had the city of Atlanta. [1:41:54, 1:41:55]: Throughout the southeast. Yes, sir. [1:41:56, 1:42:16]: I appreciate what you've done, the work that you put in and the process that you have put forward. And I want to thank you. And I want to s echo what the mayor has has indicated to you. It requires a consensus, a vote of the council and the mayor to make any changes to whatever that process might be. Now I I'm glad that you're going to be able to do [1:42:16, 1:42:36]: You that question was asked, and what you stated was the process that we're following is consistent with what you've seen in in other jurisdictions as well. Okay, in terms of um you've been with us over time, and congratulations that you have been awarded again and brought back because of your expertise uh in this in this area. [1:42:36, 1:42:52]: area. Thank you, sir. We appreciate the opportunity to continue to serve the city. Right. And as far as the financial, overall financial of the city, as a general consensus or comparison to where the rest of the cities are or is the average city in Georgia, where would Stockbridge be? [1:42:53, 1:43:07]: Um, the the city is is doing well. Um, you know, y'all have had s a lot y'all did a lot of new stuff all at the same time. Mm-hmm. And so that has presented challenges, but I feel like staff is working through that well and will continue to do so. [1:43:08, 1:43:16]: Okay. Uh thank you so much for giving us the good news. Thank you. Yes, sir. Any other counseling you got any comments? Mr. Thomas Gway, please. [1:43:16, 1:43:20]: Thank you. And Miss Pendergrass, thank you as well. [1:43:20, 1:43:21]: Um uh [1:43:22, 1:43:27]: I I do wanna speak to a couple of things and and I'm a little disturbed somewhat because [1:43:27, 1:43:30]: I'm a process kind of a person. [1:43:30, 1:43:36]: And all of us here we're duly elected by our citizens here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:43:38, 1:43:42]: And my concern is if one council member [1:43:43, 1:43:45]: has a question. [1:43:47, 1:43:49]: The process should [1:43:50, 1:43:53]: allow that question to go forward. [1:43:54, 1:43:55]: Uh so I'm I'm sorta [1:43:56, 1:44:01]: throwing this out to our city manager and and to our finance department. [1:44:02, 1:44:08]: It shouldn't be where one question from one council member [1:44:08, 1:44:09]: Get stifled. [1:44:10, 1:44:12]: And not being answered. [1:44:14, 1:44:15]: You know, we're all duly elected. [1:44:16, 1:44:18]: And and and and [1:44:19, 1:44:21]: And I I'm just talking about a process now. [1:44:24, 1:44:32]: If any of us have questions, it not only with our auditor, but any question we have with any contract, any anything that we do. [1:44:33, 1:44:35]: If a question come forward [1:44:37, 1:44:39]: It need to be answered. [1:44:39, 1:44:40]: Now [1:44:41, 1:44:42]: If the process is [1:44:44, 1:44:48]: It goes to the city manager and the city manager sends it to you. [1:44:48, 1:44:53]: if it goes to the treasurer and it's send it to you. But my my issue is [1:44:53, 1:44:57]: The question needs to be answered. [1:44:57, 1:44:58]: Number one. [1:44:59, 1:45:01]: So let me ask you this question. Um [1:45:02, 1:45:03]: What date is [1:45:04, 1:45:07]: Did you send this report to the city of Stockbridge? [1:45:07, 1:45:08]: July thirtieth. [1:45:12, 1:45:13]: July thirtieth. [1:45:15, 1:45:19]: Okay, and today is uh September. [1:45:20, 1:45:34]: I don't recall when we actually got this information. Mr. Thomas Gway, please. So I'm I'm just gonna end with this and cause I I I don't want this opportunity [1:45:35, 1:45:36]: To get [1:45:40, 1:45:47]: Go ahead, go ahead, sir. Go ahead, Miss Ms Thomas. I I don't want this issue to to go by without some clarity. [1:45:48, 1:45:50]: You know, and it and it's all about [1:45:51, 1:45:52]: Being efficient. [1:45:53, 1:45:55]: And being effective in government. [1:45:56, 1:45:59]: And the audit is a very important [1:46:00, 1:46:03]: process for any municipality. Yes, sir, I agree. [1:46:04, 1:46:07]: So that's why I'm speaking the way I'm speaking. [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: Дизінформа [1:46:10, 1:46:12]: It is very important. [1:46:12, 1:46:14]: To all of us. [1:46:14, 1:46:16]: It helps us to [1:46:17, 1:46:19]: [6380.2, 6393.1]: And so we can prepare for the future. So that's why I'm I'm sorta saying let's not just scheme over this this concern that we're in right now. I I think it is important that we clear up this process. [1:46:34, 1:46:36]: You know of questions. [1:46:36, 1:46:42]: And and and I still say and I I just don't like the fact that when a council person has a question [1:46:42, 1:46:45]: And that question cannot get answered. [1:46:46, 1:46:49]: It should always be answered. But [1:46:49, 1:46:51]: It's about the process. [1:46:52, 1:46:56]: It shouldn't be bare the question should not be buried in [1:46:56, 1:47:00]: A process that cannot come forward and and that's my concern. [1:47:01, 1:47:01]: So [1:47:02, 1:47:06]: And I'm going close here, but I just want this council to understand that [1:47:07, 1:47:08]: All of us. [1:47:08, 1:47:13]: a duty elected by the people. We all have a responsibility. [1:47:14, 1:47:15]: Some of us may be [1:47:16, 1:47:20]: feel more about our responsibility than others. That's okay. [1:47:21, 1:47:22]: That's life. [1:47:24, 1:47:25]: But the question [1:47:26, 1:47:29]: should be answered. And I'm saying this to the city manager. [1:47:30, 1:47:45]: The question should be answered to the treasurer. The question should be answered. It should not be stifled. It should not be stopped. It should not be buried. The question should always be answered. So we still have to talk about the process. [1:47:46, 1:47:50]: And if the process is the process then [1:47:51, 1:47:59]: We wouldn't be arguing now. The the process will lend itself to all questions being being answered. So [1:47:59, 1:48:02]: Let's just sort of get the process correct. [1:48:03, 1:48:09]: I yield back, Mayor, thank you. Um Mr one second. Mr Gardner, you stepped to the podium. You want to say something, sir? [1:48:09, 1:48:29]: Yes, sir. Um and and you're correct, sir. The process is important and you're correct too, uh, council member. Um as I mentioned to you guys at our retreat that this would be coming forward or this meeting, and the reason why I think Hope got sick, the reason we didn't get it at the end, I think he was sick or something in August. [1:48:29, 1:48:31]: Uh if I'm not mistaken. [1:48:31, 1:48:43]: So we issued the audit, please. We issued the audit on July thirtieth and this I think was the first me like I was too late to get on August. So this is the first meeting I was requested to attend. [1:48:43, 1:48:46]: And that's what I mentioned to council that it was coming on this date. [1:48:46, 1:48:49]: Right, if you're not if you remember correctly. So [1:48:49, 1:48:50]: First of all. [1:48:51, 1:48:56]: You know, no one's here to do any malfeasins. Like you, you you have a fiduciary responsibility, so do I. [1:48:56, 1:49:02]: Um I take my years of experience and my hard work to get me to this point very seriously. [1:49:02, 1:49:04]: And as I tell people I don't look good in orange. [1:49:04, 1:49:05]: And a jumpsuit. [1:49:06, 1:49:06]: I [1:49:08, 1:49:19]: So I I wanted to be clear that nobody's here is engaging in any farm foolery, stealing of money, misappropriation of funds, and the hint thereof is disturbing to me. [1:49:20, 1:49:20]: Mm-hmm. [1:49:24, 1:49:44]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. Thank you, Mayor. And um Mr. Gardner, I'm glad you said that because that was part of my comment. Um I believe that we are all transparent. We I believe that we are doing the best that we can for the city of Stockbridge. And I also believe that we normally we don't reinvent the wheel. [1:49:44, 1:49:44]: [6585.2, 6586.2]: You've heard [1:49:46, 1:50:04]: you know, from our auditors who we voted to hire again for the next year, that this is customary, that this is normal, that all the counties and all the cities that they perform audits for, this is who they send their audit reports to is the treasurer, or to that staff. [1:50:05, 1:50:05]: Um [1:50:06, 1:50:10]: My I agree with Councilman Thomas. Yes, we expect [1:50:10, 1:50:18]: to get answers if we ask a question, because we have a right to get those questions answered in order to vote. [1:50:19, 1:50:21]: The way we feel like we need to vote. [1:50:21, 1:50:24]: In order to represent the city and the districts that we live in. [1:50:25, 1:50:33]: However, we don't have a right to demand and tell you what to do if it's not a consensus vote of three people. [1:50:34, 1:50:44]: And I often hear, you know, we'll do the backup and we'll try to, you know, smooth things over or and make it appear a certain way. No, there are two different things here. [1:50:45, 1:50:51]: One, we ask questions to get information and knowledge to make an educated opinion and vote. [1:50:52, 1:50:53]: And two [1:50:53, 1:51:01]: It takes three council members to vote on policies and procedures in order to change something if we don't like it. [1:51:02, 1:51:13]: Not one person. So we can't speak in a demanding way. And I think our staff isn't trying to hide anything. I think we're, I don't want to micromanage. [1:51:13, 1:51:20]: I'm not paid to micromanage. I I don't I don't get the salaries that our staff gets. [1:51:20, 1:51:25]: We need to allow our staff to do their jobs, and if we find [1:51:27, 1:51:28]: At another time. [1:51:29, 1:51:31]: Or we find throughout the course of of [1:51:32, 1:51:34]: of being here that they're not doing their job. [1:51:35, 1:51:36]: Then that's when we take [1:51:37, 1:51:47]: We we make those discussions in executive session, but at at the current time we still allow our staff to do jobs and we rely on the information that they give us. [1:51:49, 1:51:54]: And we base our opinions off of that and the questions that we answer. Again. [1:51:54, 1:51:57]: It takes three to change policies and procedures. [1:51:57, 1:52:01]: Ordinances, resolutions, adoptions, [1:52:01, 1:52:09]: But yes, we we each individual as an individual person ask questions and ask for certain things and that there's nothing wrong with that. [1:52:09, 1:52:11]: I just think that we need to [1:52:11, 1:52:16]: you know, be aware of our staff. The you know, morale is important. [1:52:17, 1:52:30]: And no one here is hiding anything. I don't want you to think that we're hiding anything. And if you believe that we do are, feel free to call and ask us individually or a question or if we don't have the answer, we'll get the answer for you. [1:52:30, 1:52:33]: But no one's here to to hide anything. [1:52:34, 1:52:35]: And that's unfair to our staff. [1:52:37, 1:52:39]: Mayor Tim Berry. [1:52:39, 1:52:51]: Again, Miss Pendergrass, I wanna thank you and Molden and Jenkins and your team for putting together such a great audit. Thank you, sir. And I think what's uh what's missing in the conversation is that the city of Stockbridge has a good audit. [1:52:52, 1:53:12]: Yes, sir. There's been a lot of debate and a lot of conjecture going back and forth. And I think the the thing that's being lost in this conversation is that we have a clear audit. And uh sometimes that needs to be be echoed. I think it's been stated again that we have had certain individuals that had questions and they're gonna be questions. [1:53:12, 1:53:22]: But I also wanna uh also state for the record that the question was answered to the best of her ability about their internal policies and procedures. [1:53:22, 1:53:37]: And so there are two sides to this. There's Malden and Jenkins' procedures, and then there's the City of Stockbridge's procedures. And where those roads connect is where our business starts. And so when those things don't marry each other or don't look like the way we want them to look. [1:53:38, 1:53:43]: That's where this council comes in and we make the decisions on what needs to look like going forward. [1:53:43, 1:54:03]: But for us to have that conversation today with them on what they're presented, I think is a is unfair. I think it's unfair. And if we have anything internally that we need to change, that's for us to decide and not to have that debate amongst our guests as well as those who have presented this information today. So we need to do our own house cleaning. [1:54:03, 1:54:05]: And that's for us. [1:54:06, 1:54:09]: And that's when mine stops. Thank you. Thank you, sir. [1:54:10, 1:54:13]: Ms. Barber, this will be a last comment for you, that is. [1:54:14, 1:54:18]: Yes, I just wanted to make sure I clarify some things. Um [1:54:20, 1:54:29]: I take my responsibility very seriously. Um, last year when I began asking for the independent audit results. [1:54:30, 1:54:34]: It was because our city was considering imposing a city tax. [1:54:35, 1:54:36]: I wanted to see. [1:54:37, 1:54:46]: Not just the financial status of our city with what our staff provides, but what the independent audit says. [1:54:46, 1:54:48]: The same thing for this year. [1:54:49, 1:54:53]: The council approved once again to impose a city tax. [1:54:53, 1:54:55]: Without seeing [1:54:55, 1:54:57]: The results of the independent audit. [1:54:58, 1:55:01]: You said you provided this independent audit. [1:55:01, 1:55:02]: To staff in July. [1:55:03, 1:55:05]: Well we held public hearings regarding. [1:55:06, 1:55:08]: whether to impose a tax. [1:55:09, 1:55:10]: In July. [1:55:11, 1:55:12]: It would have been [1:55:12, 1:55:13]: Great. [1:55:14, 1:55:16]: To receive the independent audit результат. [1:55:17, 1:55:18]: Angela. [1:55:19, 1:55:21]: Before the council approved. [1:55:22, 1:55:37]: The tax. You have something you want to say, Mr. Larry? Yes, ma'am. With all due respect, if you all remember correctly, property tax notice went out from from Henry County and we had to hold our millers rate by law in the dates prior to when Hope said that that this document came out. [1:55:37, 1:55:39]: I just want to make sure that that's clear. [1:55:39, 1:55:43]: Okay. I know that um Mr Gardner, wait, I don't wanna [1:55:44, 1:55:45]: Hold on. [1:55:45, 1:55:46]: Now this [1:55:46, 1:55:50]: I am not trying to point fingers or blame on any one. [1:55:50, 1:55:51]: Mr. Gardner. [1:55:52, 1:55:54]: Step to the microphone, please, and look at me. [1:55:55, 1:55:57]: What I'm trying to do. [1:55:57, 1:55:59]: Is to get my councilmates. [1:55:59, 1:56:01]: To understand [1:56:01, 1:56:03]: Вот вині то іншу. [1:56:04, 1:56:07]: That we are making the best decision for our city. [1:56:08, 1:56:15]: We can't do that if we don't have all of the financial information to back up the decisions that we're making. [1:56:16, 1:56:19]: Which is why I couldn't vote on the millage. [1:56:20, 1:56:21]: I can make any decision. [1:56:22, 1:56:27]: We didn't have the full financials, the ka audit. We didn't have any of that. [1:56:28, 1:56:31]: And to hear her say that she provided the results in July. [1:56:33, 1:56:38]: Амі і майкінводи а специально мети. [1:56:38, 1:56:41]: We could have had it during, you know, one of the public hearings. [1:56:41, 1:56:49]: That is what my thought process has been. Yes, sir. That's not that I'm thinking that you or anyone else is doing anything wrong. [1:56:49, 1:56:53]: Yes, ma'am. When I I've spent ten months [1:56:53, 1:56:55]: Trying to get answers. [1:56:55, 1:56:56]: So I'm a bit frustrated. [1:56:57, 1:57:00]: Фрустрати показ до резиденці. [1:57:00, 1:57:01]: For us. [1:57:01, 1:57:04]: To make decisions that are in the best interest of them. [1:57:04, 1:57:07]: I want to be able to justify the decisions that I make. [1:57:08, 1:57:13]: I can't do that if I don't have all of the supporting documents and all of the information. [1:57:15, 1:57:18]: That's all I want my councilmates to understand. [1:57:19, 1:57:22]: Clearly how important an independent audit is. [1:57:22, 1:57:26]: I don't mind standing alone on an issue. I do not. [1:57:27, 1:57:31]: А вил файт тоді проин. [1:57:31, 1:57:36]: This is a independent audit, should be separate from anything else. [1:57:37, 1:57:38]: That's all. [1:57:39, 1:57:59]: Mr. Alexander Goy, please. Let me just close by saying this. Councilman Tumble, let me just follow up. I I wholeheartedly agree that the answer should be returned every time. We have a right to have that answer being returned every single time. Uh my point earlier was just the process as you was described it. [1:57:59, 1:58:19]: But let me let me make something real clear to everybody. This audit is your audit. It's not my audit. It's not the city manager's audit. It's yours. And our desire is to have the professionals make the decision so nothing political is entered into the process. That's why there is a window between us and [1:58:19, 1:58:39]: In that report. You would not want to think that the audit is being shaded by anything political with the officials getting involved in the numbers. That's why that wall is between us and the numbers, because you don't want the decision to be political. You want the numbers to be clean without free of political process. [1:58:39, 1:58:59]: And I think that's what we have, and I believe and I know that's what we have achieved. So thank you, Ms. Pendegraph. I need a motion to accept the audit, please. So moved. So Mr. Alexander and a second to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. So you name this decision. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Penegraph. Look forward to a successful 2025. [1:58:59, 1:59:00]: [7140.9, 7148.5]: All right, the old business. Um what we have here is Streetlight Master Plan presentation. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:59:19, 1:59:39]: Yes, good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. Evening. Uh tonight we come before you. In your packet, you have a copy of the proposed City of Stockbridge guidelines for street lighting. And one of the things that uh we discussed is about different types of poles in different areas, whether they're gonna be metal pole or wooden poles. And also [1:59:39, 1:59:59]: one of the things this document uh outlines is that in all subdivisions they would be underground so those would have metal poles. So I've asked uh Mr. Joe Cobb with Georgia Power, he's our lighting rep to be present at this meeting so that if you have any questions or concerns, I know one of the [1:59:59, 2:00:19]: projects we were looking at was the Jodico Road next to the bri uh bridges at Jodico about the black metal poles and things of that nature. So I asked Mr. Cobb to come here so he can give you more information as to why in certain areas there are wooden poles and in certain areas there are mud metal poles, if you have any questions. [2:00:20, 2:00:27]: New question for'em. Anybody? You good? anybody? No question on street lights? [2:00:28, 2:00:29]: I think we're good on that. [2:00:29, 2:00:32]: Yes, sir. Yep. Yes sir, go ahead, please. [2:00:32, 2:00:34]: Mr. Aaron, if you would [2:00:35, 2:00:47]: Just reiterate or iterate um costs and who pays. I think uh that just need to be known. I I don't want misinformation to get out. [2:00:47, 2:01:07]: Well, recently we adopted street lighting districts where in neighborhoods and subdivisions that they do have street lights, those uh residents of that neighborhood would pay the street lights for those areas and also on the major thoroughway thoroughfares and street lights and things of that nature, the city pays those street. [2:01:07, 2:01:08]: Street lights. [2:01:09, 2:01:10]: Thank you. [2:01:11, 2:01:19]: If no question, go ahead please. Yes. Um Mr. Aaron and I don't know if this falls under this, but [2:01:19, 2:01:24]: The last meeting you said that you were compiling a list of the areas. [2:01:25, 2:01:30]: including the um newly annexed areas for street lights. [2:01:31, 2:01:35]: You haven't provided that list to the council, and I wanted to make sure. [2:01:35, 2:01:39]: That those newly annexed areas are indeed. [2:01:39, 2:01:40]: On your list. [2:01:40, 2:02:00]: The newly annexed areas, the majority of them were in streetlight districts in Henry County. So those already have streetlights. What we were requested was the major thoroughfares was it was Valley Hill Road, Flippin Road, it was Jodico Road, Walt Stevens Road. Those were the requests. [2:02:00, 2:02:20]: That we had, and we presented that information at that meeting, but it was tabled because Councilman Alexander had some questions about the Jodica Road and whether we could put the black metal poles to put street lights on. And so here we are bringing that information back after we've researched it and had our conference. [2:02:20, 2:02:40]: consultation with Mr. Cobb as to why and why not you cannot put black metal poles everywhere. Because the polls doesn't just have Georgia Power utility on it. They also have other utilities. So I'll let Mr. Cobb speak to that because he did the analysis for the Jodico Road. [2:02:40, 2:02:51]: We have the information. It was presented at the f original meeting, but it was tabled because of the questions about the Jodico Road. [2:02:51, 2:02:52]: Thank you, sir. [2:02:56, 2:03:16]: Sure, I'll try to answer the questions. Thank you for the opportunity to come and uh field those questions for the council here. Um we really have to look at roadways and wood poles versus the metal poles kind of on a case by case basis. And it takes into account, as uh Mr. Aaron stated, whether there are other utilities that are on the poles. [2:03:16, 2:03:23]: such as cable, uh bell maybe on the pole, uh the the backspacing from the back of curb. [2:03:24, 2:03:44]: Can either allow or disallow us to put up a aluminum pole with underground wire for a more decorative, more appealing look. The photometrics, the lighting levels that are required for streets and roads vary based on the traffic and the pedestrian conflict. So we have to run lighting levels. [2:03:44, 2:04:04]: Level studies to make sure that we're providing adequate lighting. Sometimes that can be done from one side of the road. Sometimes you have to involve both sides of the road. And the existing infrastructure that may or may not be there could be overhead or underground, can come into conflict with the type of pole you might prefer. [2:04:04, 2:04:24]: And then you just have to kind of back that all out and see, you know, are you willing to pay the cost for the underground decorative poles versus using the existing infrastructure there with the wood poles? So it's it's just it it really is a case-by-case basis on a road by road that we'd look at on each and every one and then [2:04:24, 2:04:28]: And just mix that with your desire for the appearance of that project. [2:04:29, 2:04:49]: Sir. Okay, please. So I think the the desire is to have the metal poles because we have the metal poles already on the new thoroughfare, which is Chin Parkway. Chin Parkway, which is the new road, the$54 million road project that we have coming through the area. GDOT approved the project. [2:04:49, 2:05:09]: Sure. And from Hudson Bridge Road all the way down to Jonesboro Road, the ones that are between Jodico Road and Mount Olive, they're already there. They're black model poles that are already in that location. Right. The desire was to be consistent with that, and certainly for new development that would come in, we would want them more. [2:05:09, 2:05:29]: decorative look to make sure that it's being consistent with what we have. Because if they are going the extra mile and we're having the developers go the extra mile, we just wanted to be able to do that too. And I would think we want to do that on Walt Stevens. I would think that we want to do that on North Henry Boulevard or all of these major corridors. Uh [2:05:28, 2:05:47]: if possible to do so because it is it is an improvement. Right now we got these polls right now that are look like this versus a great appearance that we would all desire. So certainly I'm supportive of making sure that we do that at every commercial location if possible. [2:05:47, 2:05:57]: Sure. And um the transition from a wood pole with overhead uh utilities, whether it's electric, cable, um [2:05:57, 2:06:16]: Following the case. Let me let me quite clarify. Doesn't have to be e or or you got a metal pole at the r the wooden pole that's already there. Doesn't need to be in conflict. You put the metal pole like we have on the subdivision, we put the poles out front, right uh and run them along uh closer to the right of way so they're not in conflict with what you have on the pole. [2:06:16, 2:06:36]: It it'll again kinda go back to the the spacing behind the road, uh what's available across the street, photometrics. Uh we're more than happy to look at putting in the decorative poles where possible. Um, although, you know, there are gonna be some times where there are conflicts. Right, just like that Jodico location, it's about there's wooden poles there, they're about they're really about [2:06:36, 2:06:56]: About 75 feet off the road. Correct. So we there's plenty of space to go into the right-of-way. And certainly Walt Stevens has a long uh right-of-way as well. And certainly we want to do things as best that we possibly can. So I'm supportive of this particular program and making sure that we get uh the best as possible. [2:06:56, 2:07:11]: And then it also applied us, it allowed subdivisions who don't have enough lighting in there already to go back at their cost, Mr. Aaron, right, and to add additional street lights in their subdivision because there'll be special service districts, correct? [2:07:13, 2:07:33]: Yes, sir. And also but but keep in mind, even though on some major thoroughfares you do the black decorative poles doesn't necessarily mean the wooden poles go away. No. You're just gonna add additional and then you're gonna have that clutter where you got, okay, if I already got twenty wooden poles and you're trying to put black stuff. [2:07:33, 2:07:53]: street light poles, then you put on another twenty black street light poles. So now you got forty instead of the twenty. So I I certainly understand that. I don't think it'd be necessary to put twenty. I think we go. We what what they did over there at uh at the on the existing roadway is beautiful. They're separated quite a bit. [2:07:53, 2:08:13]: They're not right next to each other. I think between the w original road that's in there, Jodeco, and the first turn, there might be like two. So it's not like a lot of lighting because they're high intensity lights. So again, I'm supportive of this program and doing what's necessary. So I would make a motion to support this if [2:08:13, 2:08:26]: Yeah, I do. I have one one um more question. And and I know this probably doesn't have anything to do with [2:08:26, 2:08:30]: So the lights around the amphitheater um as [2:08:31, 2:08:35]: Did you use this program here for it? [2:08:36, 2:08:44]: No, the lights around the amphitheater was a part of the amphitheater development. So it had it on its own lighting plan. It was separate from this. [2:08:44, 2:08:47]: Okay. I'm asking only because it seems [2:08:50, 2:08:53]: I got my Georgia Power Bill last week. [2:08:54, 2:08:55]: Um it was [2:08:56, 2:08:57]: Excessive. [2:08:57, 2:09:02]: But nonetheless, I'm just thinking in terms of how we can reduce costs. Um [2:09:02, 2:09:05]: And I certainly don't want to hold up the progress. Um [2:09:06, 2:09:10]: You can work with містер Алекскаунсман Александр он Джотико Род. [2:09:11, 2:09:14]: And whatever he'd like to see, but I certainly want us to move forward. [2:09:14, 2:09:19]: Um, with Valley Hill Road and those other NX areas as you originally presented. [2:09:20, 2:09:21]: But I still wanted to [2:09:21, 2:09:25]: ask about the um lighting around the amphitheater, it seems like [2:09:25, 2:09:27]: It's a lot of lights. [2:09:27, 2:09:30]: And they're only used on the weekends, mostly. [2:09:33, 2:09:38]: But it has nothing to do with this. So I'll talk to you offline about my concerns, Mr. Erin. [2:09:40, 2:09:41]: Mr. Barrett, go away, please. [2:09:41, 2:10:01]: Yes. Mr. Aaron, just from our earlier conversations, I just wanted I know we are on the project and those areas have been already identified and highlighted, but for the for a point of clarity, can you express to the people for record, for those who are not on this particular plan who may be in not in a subdivision or maybe on their own private role like the banks drive and other [2:10:01, 2:10:06]: the neighborhoods that may be like that that would like to get street lights, what that procedure for them looks like. [2:10:06, 2:10:23]: So if I know we've received some calls from the residents on Banks Drive. And one of the things is it outlines the process and how you go about requesting street lights. It's kind of similar to the petition for uh speed humps. [2:10:23, 2:10:28]: I think it's like fifty one p percent or so of the residents. [2:10:28, 2:10:34]: in that neighborhood or subdivision would have to agree to pay the assessment before the street lights are installed. [2:10:36, 2:10:56]: I'd have to go back and look specifically. I know it's a majority of the residents have to agree to pay the assessment. When Georgia Power comes out, they give us a cost. They'll say it's 13 lights and it costs X amount. So that's divided up among the residents in the neighborhood, and they have to agree to pay the assessment. [2:10:56, 2:10:59]: before the city wouldn't have the lights installed. [2:11:00, 2:11:11]: All right, thank you, sir. Mr. Addison, go ahead with your motion. All right, we'll say this to Mayor Pro Timberry, you got lucky, Rock Corey gonna have those metal. So you good. I'll make a motion to approve the pro program. [2:11:11, 2:11:12]: Is there a second? [2:11:13, 2:11:18]: Mr. Barrett, second, in all favour, please indicate the decision. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you very much. [2:11:19, 2:11:39]: What we're gonna go on next is our public hearing. And obviously, I'll read the public hearing rules. And the first item for public hearing will actually be a continuance of a previous public hearing we had uh last month. But let me read these public hearing rules. Please mute all your cell phones, all uh electrical devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing nine, please fill out the form available on the [2:11:39, 2:11:59]: table and hand to the city clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant or their representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with or any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes [2:11:59, 2:12:19]: To speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended by the discretion of the counsel. Please keep comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments, personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from applauding. [2:12:19, 2:12:30]: or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes a speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the council, staff, or the audience. [2:12:30, 2:12:50]: All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and a building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve [2:12:50, 2:13:10]: Part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire 10 minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions andor concerns. The presiding officer will call for the motion, second for the motion, and will have any necessary. [2:13:10, 2:13:29]: Discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the present officer will call for a vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. First up this evening will be item number six because item five was no action was needed. Rezoning case RZ 2024-05 located in Council District 5. [2:13:29, 2:13:30]: is continued. [2:13:30, 2:13:50]: Consideration to request a rezoning of property five two four excuse me five excuse me four two five Country Club Drive to rezone the property from OI Office Institution Institutional to C two General Commercial to allow for a hotel boutique. The applicant is Stuart Hope of StarPridge. [2:13:50, 2:14:00]: Pro pro ProCo LLC. The property is located on land lot fourteen in District 7 with a 6.92 acres within the city of Stockbridge. Mr. Anderson, please. [2:14:02, 2:14:18]: Mayor and Councillor, if if I may, I I know that there have been some questions, but I just wanna make sure that everybody had access to the memo that Miss Valerie Ross sent you all from planning and zoning about the zoning matters and make sure you all have that uh readily available. If not I can email it to you all right now. But you all have it. [2:14:18, 2:14:27]: Well we've received I don't have it handy f right in front of me and I don't know if the rest of the council has it handy in that aspect at all either. If not I if not I can email a separate copy. I'll do that for you all. [2:14:27, 2:14:28]: No. [2:14:28, 2:14:29]: Okay. [2:14:30, 2:14:31]: Ms. Anza, please. [2:14:32, 2:14:34]: Okay, good evening, Mayor. Um [2:14:36, 2:14:45]: We need to resume um this um public hearing um on August twelfth, um at the last meeting um uh [2:14:46, 2:14:49]: We had h we heard the uh public comments from all the citizens. [2:14:49, 2:14:51]: And uh staff report. [2:14:52, 2:14:52]: And um [2:14:53, 2:14:55]: And we also heard from the applicant. [2:14:55, 2:14:58]: Uh council was deliberating and council. [2:14:58, 2:15:01]: made some requests of the uh applicant [2:15:01, 2:15:04]: And the applicant went back and uh addressed those [2:15:05, 2:15:05]: Concerns. [2:15:06, 2:15:09]: And uh they uh they sent the email address to council member Alexander on [2:15:10, 2:15:16]: August the twenty seventh, addressing those um those concerns and explaining to the council how they handle those issues. [2:15:17, 2:15:37]: So on that note, um I would imagine the applicant uh excuse me not the applicant, the individuals that are actually uh selling the property, we did want some questions and concerns and and have the have a conversation with them. I'm assuming uh that uh they are present to answer any questions that the council may have. Yes, sir, they're present. Yeah, come forward please. All right. [2:15:44, 2:15:45]: Yes, sir. [2:15:46, 2:16:02]: Of course. For that for recording, I'll give it to Mr. Thomas here for his questions, sir. Shorts. Uh John Jordan, um with Hector Walker Jordan, two hundred five, Corporate Center Drive, sweep B. Stockbridge Georgia, three hundred two eighty one. [2:16:03, 2:16:04]: Any any lady here? [2:16:05, 2:16:13]: Ruby Anna Whitworth, eighty-nine Braymore, Mills Drive, Lawrenceville, Georgia, zip code three hundred forty-four. All right. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. [2:16:13, 2:16:33]: I wanna thank you all for being here. Um basically wanna follow up from the last meeting. There were some concerns about the tenants being able to actually find or move or find residency in a in a time. [2:16:33, 2:16:38]: So can you give us an update or all of the tenants uh out? [2:16:39, 2:16:40]: As of today. [2:16:41, 2:17:01]: Uh the tenants are not out as of today. They were given a ninety day notice instead of a thirty day notice uh a couple of weeks ago. Um so they're in the process of making arrangements for that. And actually uh Miss Rubiana is here with us today. She is the operational the division operations director for Georgia and Alabama and [2:17:00, 2:17:19]: um she's prepared a little uh presentation for thank you for that. Let me j I'm gonna finish this and then you can respond. I think it was nineteen um individuals that was there at our last meeting. That's my recollection. And I believe Miss Rubiana can probably [2:17:19, 2:17:22]: Yes, right now we have fourteen residents still there. [2:17:22, 2:17:24]: Okay, so [2:17:24, 2:17:30]: Can you get into the process and and the timeline that they would be allowed to [2:17:30, 2:17:41]: uh to f you know, relocate and what assistance, if any, that y'all are giving to to assist them in finding uh uh a a place. [2:17:41, 2:18:01]: Sure. So we did provide them with a 90-day notice, not only the residents, but the staff as well. We have contacted the uh neighboring assisted livings in the area to let them know that we will be closing so that they can come in, talk to the residents, complete assessments so that if they need to relocate, they can do so. [2:18:01, 2:18:21]: Also, a part of our company, we have two other sister properties in the Georgia market. Um, the closest one being Smyrna, Georgia. So we did host the residents as of last Friday so that they could come and tour the facility so they could make a decision on whether or not they would like to stay with the same company. And with that, we would be able to honor their [2:18:21, 2:18:23]: same rate if they decided to transfer. [2:18:24, 2:18:28]: Same rate, that is great. So when you say ninety days, ninety days from [2:18:29, 2:18:33]: Nine days from um August the nineteenth. [2:18:34, 2:18:37]: Okay. Thank you, Mayor. I yield back. Mr. Alexander. [2:18:38, 2:18:58]: Yes, uh I certainly appreciate it um that you are endeavoring to work with the residents in um in a compassionate way. Um and to be able to make this transition uh as less painful as possible uh for the existing residents there. So it's since the time of [2:18:58, 2:19:18]: of our last meeting, uh about five residents have relocated, which you're indicating, and you're indicating that you would go along and you would also them the same rate at a s at the sister or brother uh facility so that the financial impact wouldn't be uh as would be minimized. [2:19:18, 2:19:25]: That's correct. Okay. So uh is there anything else that you would like us to know uh about this particular process? [2:19:26, 2:19:46]: Um uh outside of the residents, we do have our valued employees and we are working alongside them to ensure that they do have a smooth transition as well. Um I'm thrilled to announce that out of the two employees that I've been working closely with, um business office manager and resident care coordinator, we have been able to offer them transitions. [2:19:46, 2:20:01]: I do plan to work with them closely as far as our frontline staff. If they need letters of recommendation, we're happy to do that, as well as host resume workshops so that if they need resumes put together to get out into the workforce, we're happy to do that too. [2:20:02, 2:20:22]: Okay. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Any council, any other questions for them right now? Anybody else? Okay, so uh Mr. Anderson, uh the the individual that plans to upon whatever decision council comes plans to actually make the uh produce the boutique hotel and I imagine she's present, would uh like to see if she wants to come forward or come forward any questions. [2:20:22, 2:20:24]: that the council may have for this time. [2:20:29, 2:20:34]: Yes, I'm here. My name is Vena Skirvin at two seven zero Prairie View Place, Atlanta, Georgia, three oh three one one. [2:20:34, 2:20:54]: Thank you for your patience. Council, any questions for all? Yes. Ms. Thank you so much for coming back and uh wanting to bring uh uh a new business to uh the city. Uh you I just want to make sure that so everybody understands here everything that has been stated here, you are in agreement with the time. [2:20:54, 2:21:01]: table in the transition on the resident and the compassionate process that the council has required. You are in agreement with that. [2:21:01, 2:21:02]: Uh yes, I have no objections. [2:21:03, 2:21:15]: Okay, talk about um as this moves through and then uh maybe Mr. Jordan or someone could talk about again just kinda a little bit briefly to talk about the project that you're hoping to bring. [2:21:18, 2:21:34]: Uh well I'm hoping to bring a uh upper upscale boutique hotel um to the facility. I'd like to um renovate it. I'm thinking about a six to nine month renovation process uh before we'd be able to um you know have an opening date. Um the [2:21:34, 2:21:53]: uh hotel would be uh soft branded. Um we're looking at uh either Hilton or um Hyatt or an IHG or a Wendham um soft branded property. Um and we're just you know looking forward to uh being able to um you know execute this process. [2:21:53, 2:21:56]: All right. Thank you so much. Any other questions, Council? [2:21:57, 2:22:05]: If if not, okay, thank you. Appreciate it. All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is open uh a public hearing. You can have a seat, please. I'm sorry, Mr. Go ahead, Ms. Sampson. [2:22:06, 2:22:11]: I I don't need more well my make I wanna make sure I I'm brought proper here. Attorney. [2:22:14, 2:22:21]: Okay, now Dom I need to open up for any public comments at all? If we we reconvene this or continu you know, we didn't end it. [2:22:29, 2:22:34]: Okay, well I did close out public comments at that time. I did. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. All right. No pro [2:22:37, 2:22:57]: All right, understand. Got it. So on that that note, then actually I just need a motion to to accept this uh proposal for this to to go forward. Uh mayor, I would like to make a motion to approve uh what we have described here uh with this transition with the approved ninety days as we have already. [2:22:57, 2:23:17]: Already outlined in the put in this process to transition. I think we had discussed some additional conditions such as lighting along the frontage of the property and as well for us to be able to do that, and then flock cameras at the entryway for security. [2:23:17, 2:23:34]: security and purposes. And you had also enumerated that the uh gate would actually be a functional gate uh at this point. The gate now is left open all the time, but it would be required that that gate would be functional uh for uh for entry to the property. [2:23:36, 2:23:55]: Um yes and I'd request it that that be uh at night time. Right. Yes. Absolutely. My motion that's that'll be my motion for approval. Is there a second to motion? Second. Mr. Barrett, second. All favor please indicate. Congratulations, everybody. Fantastic. Thank you. Thank you. We'll move on. [2:23:57, 2:24:17]: Okay, so what's next? Actually, uh six, I mean seven, eight, uh what is it, seven, eight, nine, ten, right? We were it's gonna be re uh redone on October 14th. Well, we have comprehensive plan amendment CP two zero two four-06 located in Council District 5. Consideration for request of comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use. [2:24:17, 2:24:31]: use the designation of two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eaglesland Parkway, from a low density mixed use to a medium density uh residential to allow for the construction of a town home development. The applicant is uh LI Route. [2:24:31, 2:24:51]: Third twenty-three LLC and agents George Harper Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as are listed below at thirteen point six four acres within the stockbridge city limits. Parcel dash uh parcel number zero six nine-0109000 contains ten point six one acres and landline. [2:24:51, 2:25:08]: Lots one and two of District Seven and Eleven. Parcel number zero seven uh zero seven zero that's zero one zero zero one zero zero zero twenty six fourteen highway forty two north contains three point zero three acres of land lot one of district seven. Mr. Anderson, please. [2:25:09, 2:25:13]: Mayor Ford. Yes sir. Uh are you gonna read all three? [2:25:13, 2:25:33]: Oh excuse me. Excuse me. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. The rezoning case which would be number twelve, rezoning case RZ dash two zero two four-six, located in Council District Five. Consideration of request for a rezoning uh rezoning to rezone two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eaglesland Park. [2:25:33, 2:25:53]: From C2 General Commercial to MFR, multiple family residential allow for construction of townhome development. The applicant is LI Route 23 LLC and the agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as listed below with 13.64 total acres within the Starbury City limits. Various requests are R and [2:25:53, 2:26:13]: V das two zero two four four four four four four zero six would reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from required fifty feet to thirty feet. Parcel number zero six nine dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero zero contains ten point six one acres land lots one and two of districts seven and eight. [2:26:13, 2:26:33]: Parcel number 070-01001000, 2612 Highway 42 North contains 3.01 acres in land lot one of District 7. And also we have the variance RV-2024-02. [2:26:33, 2:26:46]: Request number one, located Council District 5. Consideration of a variance request for two variances on two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eagles Land Parkway to allow for the construction of townhome development. [2:26:46, 2:27:06]: Variance request number one will reduce the front yard setbacks of the town hall lots from required 50 feet to 30 feet. The applicant LI Route 23 LLC and the agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels are listed below at 13.64 total acres within the Starbury City limits. [2:27:06, 2:27:26]: Procel number 069-01009000 contains 10.61 acres in landlots 1 and 2 of districts 7 and 8. Proxcel number 070-01001000. 2612 Highway 42 North contains 3.03 acres in landlord district. [2:27:26, 2:27:27]: Тик О [2:27:28, 2:27:48]: And actually I got another one here, right? Yes, sir. Variance case RV 202024-01 variance request number two. Uh located Council District 5. Consideration of variance requests with two variances on two parcels on the east side of 42 North, south of Eagles Landing Parkway to allow for the construction of town hall. [2:27:48, 2:27:49]: [8869.7, 8889.7]: Variance request number two would reduce the side of six yard setbacks to the townhome lots between buildings from acquired 15 feet to 10 feet. The advocate is R1 Route 23 LLC and the agent is George Harper Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels enlisted below with 13.64 total acres within the stopper. [2:28:09, 2:28:10]: Yeah. [2:28:11, 2:28:31]: Parcel number 069-01009000 contains ten point six one acres. In a landlot one and two, district seven and eight. And parcel number seven zero, excuse me, zero seven zero zero one zero zero one zero zero zero. Twenty-six twelve highway forty-two contains three point three three point zero three. [2:28:31, 2:28:51]: Three acres of landlot one in District 7. All right, Mr. Addison, it's now yours. Okay, good evening. I'd like to discuss the um the comprehensive comprehensive plan request first. The applicant is proposing a hundred-unit town townhome development at a density rate of seven point three three units per acre. Uh once again, the process. [2:28:50, 2:29:10]: Property address 2612 Highway 42 North. 13.64, approximately 13.64 acres. Currently the site is vacant and wooded with it with an existing deceleration lane and entrance on the right. The current future land use designation is low density mixed use, and the applicant is proposed. [2:29:10, 2:29:20]: To go to medium density, uh medium density residential. The current zoning of the property is C2. [2:29:20, 2:29:22]: Here's the vicinity Mount [2:29:23, 2:29:37]: Here's the the site is highlighted in burnt orange. And you can see it's located near a CNC fence. Uh parkside at Ingles Landing is across the street. Uh elite collision, a CVS is down the street and a marathon gas station. [2:29:41, 2:29:43]: Here's the aerial photo of the of the site. [2:29:46, 2:30:00]: The sign was posted by site visit on July 16, 2024. Here is the existing uh deceleration lane that I previously mentioned, and that exits into the property of the proposed townhome development. [2:30:11, 2:30:14]: Here's another photo of the site. [2:30:16, 2:30:35]: zoning history, the the larger parcel was is two partials. The larger parcel was rezoned from RA, Residential Agriculture, to C two on May sixth, nineteen ninety-seven as part of a larger property. In addition, the existing deceleration lane at the subject property was completed in two thousand and two. [2:30:42, 2:31:02]: Uh a little background on the development. The applicant once again the applicants propose to build a townhome development with a hundred units at a density of approximately seven units per acre acre on the eastern side of Highway 42, north and south of Eagles Landing Parkway. The size of the proposed townhomes are twenty-four by one hundred and ten, which is twenty [2:31:02, 2:31:08]: twenty six hundred and forty square feet. The proposed townhome development would include the following amenities, pool, [2:31:08, 2:31:28]: Pool for pool pavilion with restrooms, a playground, or community mailbox, and 2.8 acres of open space. The proposed development would also include six parking spaces for visitors and 19 parking spaces close to the pool. The proposed townhome development will include a 25-foot buffer along the eastern bank. [2:31:28, 2:31:40]: boundary line adjacent to the lakeside at Eagles Landing Subdivision. In addition, the prop the proposed of proposed development will be gated and will include a five foot sidewalk on both sides of the internal streets. [2:31:41, 2:31:43]: The proposed town home development will utilize the existing [2:31:44, 2:31:55]: Acceleration lane located on Highway 42 North, and we'll install an emergency access road on Highway 42 North. In addition, the proposed townhome development will have main access from Park Place Subdivision. [2:32:02, 2:32:07]: Here's a um a copy of the um the site plan and the layout. [2:32:14, 2:32:19]: Here's a rendering of the um of the townhomes. You see they have full brick facade. [2:32:24, 2:32:27]: Here's another photo of the uh of the elevation. [2:32:31, 2:32:45]: So as it relates to the um the comp plan, staff' uh recommended approval of the change from low density mixed use to medium density residential. Now I proceed to the uh rezoning. [2:32:49, 2:32:52]: Here's a picture picture of the city of Stockbridge future land use map. [2:32:59, 2:33:19]: Here's the density of the surrounding properties that surround the proposed development. You got to the north, you got low density mixed use. To the south, you got low density mixed use. To the east, you got low density mixed use and high density mixed use. And to the west, you got high density residential, low density mixed use, low density. [2:33:19, 2:33:21]: low density mix use and low density mix use. [2:33:23, 2:33:43]: The high density residential to the west makes the um the proposed development compatible with the surrounding community. As you can see, here's the density of the surrounding um developments, existing developments. At Brandon's Walk, you got forty-six units at four units per acre. You got Lakeside at Eagles Landing, which has 90 units, which [2:33:43, 2:33:53]: three units per acre. You got Parkside at Eagles Landing with 240 214 units with three units per acre. And this proposed development will have seven units per acre. [2:33:56, 2:34:02]: Here's the surrounding land use densities map. This is just a map of what I just previously mentioned. [2:34:05, 2:34:15]: And uh the proposal is the um consistent with the city of Stockbridge comprehensive plan. So as it relates to the rezoning, staff recommends approval as that also on that one. [2:34:24, 2:34:32]: So the variance, the applicant is requesting two variants, a variance to reduce the front yard setback of the townhome lots from the required fifty feet to thirty feet. [2:34:33, 2:34:37]: And variance request number two, reduce the side yard setback to the town home lots. [2:34:37, 2:34:40]: between buildings from the required fifteen feet to ten feet. [2:34:40, 2:35:00]: We were we were m excuse me sir. We rem the thirty feet was already changed, right? Uh we did a presentation on that, but we got to actually bring that back before council n uh at the next uh city council meeting for adoption. We presented it to um you guys as a presentation to get your input before we move forward to the planning commission. Okay, so we have to put in the conditions. [2:35:00, 2:35:20]: Yes, but we we are recommending a thirty-foot front yard setback on townhomes. Uh the industry standard is around twenty-five feet. But we think uh thirty feet would be best for the city of Stockbridge. Yes. Um so as a result um of the proposal that we currently have in process, uh staff [2:35:20, 2:35:21]: recommend approval. [2:35:21, 2:35:22]: For the required [2:35:23, 2:35:26]: Uh reduction in the front yard setback from fifty feet to thirty feet. [2:35:27, 2:35:29]: And also um variance number two. [2:35:29, 2:35:47]: Because this would be such a high quality um development, uh, with the full brick facade and everything, staff didn't feel like it would be detrimental to the community to reduce the required side yard set back from fifteen feet to ten. So staff recommended approval for both for both variances and that completes my report. [2:35:48, 2:35:52]: All right, council questions do you have for Mr. Anderson? Um go ahead please. [2:35:53, 2:35:56]: Miss Anderson, uh so it's all brick? It's on all [2:35:56, 2:35:59]: Uh no the the facade, the front elevation is all brick. [2:36:00, 2:36:02]: They will have a heart um hardy plank on the side. [2:36:02, 2:36:03]: Okay. [2:36:04, 2:36:18]: We'll we'll we'll talk about as we talk about the the the uh there are variations for uh the conditions. They'll present that when the when the applicant presents. Yeah, we uh oh yeah some c conditions as associated with the rezoning. I need to go back and pr and read into the record. [2:36:30, 2:36:48]: It's gonna be fifty percent and fifty percent like the other one. Okay, um fifty and fifty. For the for the rezoning um approval, st staff did recommend uh several conditions. Number one, flock cameras will be located at the entrance of the proposed town home development. [2:36:48, 2:36:56]: A twenty five foot buffer shall be established along the northern and southern portion of the subject property. A mandatory HOA shall be established along the [2:36:57, 2:36:59]: The units shall not exceed one hundred units. [2:37:00, 2:37:03]: The rental shall not exceed ten percent of the proposed town home development. [2:37:04, 2:37:06]: A male kiosk shall be established. [2:37:06, 2:37:08]: The rendering shown with the submitted [2:37:08, 2:37:28]: Application on July first, 2024 shall be followed. The brick is shown on the front and on the side is showing hardy hardy plank siding. But these are um similar to the most of these conditions come from our proposal that we have on the way for the um the revamping of the MFR standards. So they're pretty standard for us. [2:37:28, 2:37:29]: No. [2:37:31, 2:37:32]: Okay, any more questions, Ms. Gantt? [2:37:33, 2:37:33]: No. [2:37:33, 2:37:35]: All right, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:37:35, 2:37:36]: Yes, thank you. [2:37:38, 2:37:41]: I live in Lakeside, subdivision. [2:37:42, 2:37:53]: Is there any homeowners in Lake's high okay um you live behind where this proposed development will be? Please please please address Ms. Darrison, please. Um [2:37:53, 2:38:02]: I live in Lakeside Subdivision. Lakeside is divided by East Lake Parkway. I only represent the side. [2:38:02, 2:38:03]: The other side. [2:38:05, 2:38:12]: Councilman Alexander represents the other side of my subdivision. It's the way the council drew the district lines intentionally. [2:38:13, 2:38:14]: Nonetheless. [2:38:15, 2:38:15]: Um [2:38:16, 2:38:17]: I did get out in the community. [2:38:18, 2:38:21]: Um Lakeside and Parkside on Saturday. [2:38:21, 2:38:23]: And I posted notice. [2:38:24, 2:38:25]: on mailboxes. [2:38:26, 2:38:31]: to make sure that the homeowners knew that this development proposal was gonna be presented today. [2:38:32, 2:38:32]: Um [2:38:33, 2:38:33]: Well [2:38:35, 2:38:39]: I understand the developer, the landowner has a right. [2:38:39, 2:38:40]: They have a right to sell their property. [2:38:41, 2:38:44]: And the developer has a right to submit an application to build. [2:38:45, 2:38:46]: Is whether or not [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: What they propose to be [2:38:49, 2:38:51]: is something that meets our [2:38:52, 2:38:54]: cities building standards and codes. [2:38:55, 2:38:58]: The developer has submitted some [2:38:58, 2:39:01]: Exceptions is what I like to call them. [2:39:01, 2:39:02]: The variances. [2:39:03, 2:39:05]: And amendments. There are exceptions. [2:39:06, 2:39:07]: To our code. [2:39:08, 2:39:09]: Far too often. [2:39:09, 2:39:10]: Proposals are being sent. [2:39:11, 2:39:16]: And the council is approving, amending our comprehensive plan. [2:39:16, 2:39:18]: And approving the rezonings. [2:39:19, 2:39:24]: So I've asked the question why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars? [2:39:25, 2:39:29]: On a comprehensive plan or unified development code if we keep amending it. [2:39:30, 2:39:32]: Every time someone submits an application. [2:39:32, 2:39:35]: But perhaps that's the ways of developing. [2:39:37, 2:39:40]: Nonetheless, um, this is close to where I live. [2:39:42, 2:39:44]: So absolutely, I have a vested interest. [2:39:44, 2:39:46]: in this particular development. [2:39:47, 2:39:52]: I'd like to see some concep conceptuals of this that hasn't been provided. [2:39:53, 2:39:58]: You mean renderings? Or or renderings, you have some I showed you some renderings. Let me show let me go back to that screen. [2:40:01, 2:40:01]: Okay. [2:40:02, 2:40:04]: This is the first time I've seen them. [2:40:04, 2:40:05]: Okay. [2:40:06, 2:40:08]: And here's another angle. [2:40:08, 2:40:11]: A four brick facade. [2:40:11, 2:40:17]: Thank you. They do look nice. I did have an opportunity to talk with um [2:40:18, 2:40:21]: I don't know if he was the developer. Mr Moore, is he here? [2:40:22, 2:40:23]: Uh yes, they're here. [2:40:24, 2:40:27]: I did have an opportunity to talk with him on Friday. I shared with him. [2:40:27, 2:40:31]: Some of my concerns, safety concerns. Um [2:40:31, 2:40:32]: The [2:40:33, 2:40:36]: Entry and exit points. We're not at that point yet. [2:40:37, 2:40:44]: I mean you I'm I'm complete with my uh entire presentation, so you can ask a question on that. Okay. Then I'll wait. Okay. Thank you. All right. [2:40:45, 2:40:57]: The applicant can come up oh if you have any questions. Yeah, come on up please. Um Mr. Sam, do you have some questions there? Yeah, let the applicant make the presentation as customary. Okay. [2:41:00, 2:41:01]: Thank you. [2:41:04, 2:41:05]: All right. [2:41:06, 2:41:10]: Good evening, Mr. Chairman. Board members. Evening to you, sir. [2:41:10, 2:41:30]: Welcome. Thank you. George Harper, Paramount Engineering, 11 East Broad Street, Noonan, Georgia. Thank you for hearing us tonight. So, yes, these are just to kind of start off and answer your questions about the renderings. Now, these were the same renderings that were submitted with the uh the original package. They were in the planning commission and these were showed at the original. [2:41:30, 2:41:50]: Original Planning Commission meeting that were approved. So I maybe there was a little confusion there. I apologize. I do have uh I did send some additional ones in today. Really, it was just for a three-story unit that we're proposing as well. And then I provided a little bit of uh additional information on some interior pictures, that type stuff. So that's really the [2:41:50, 2:42:09]: the only additional information that I sent in today that that wasn't in the original package. So if if that helps a little bit. So um do you want me to go through the presentation ways, sir? If you have a presentation, I didn't know if he was quite finished with with his or not, but uh give me just a second I can [2:42:09, 2:42:15]: Ryan, he may need some help with this just in case uh maybe give him some of this assistance to get this thing up. Yes, sir, if you don't mind. [2:42:19, 2:42:20]: Uh how we point to. [2:42:22, 2:42:42]: You got the new three-story. It's okay. Yeah. Thank you. Okay, here we go. All righty. So um again, my name is George Harper, Caraman Engineering. I'm representing LI Route 23 today. So this property is owned by the Clark family. Uh Clark family has owned C and C fence for a number of years. Uh this [2:42:42, 2:43:02]: property uh they wanted to uh expand their fence company a few years ago and they came before the city to try to have it rezoned to I believe it was LI so they could expand uh again their fence company and and that was denied. And so they've been sitting on the property for a number of years and just haven't really had any opportunities to sell it at [2:43:02, 2:43:22]: At the current zoning, uh no interest in the C2. So uh my uh my clients came along and offered to um try to buy the property and develop it as obviously a residential uh townhome development. Um starting off, I'll kind of go through just kind of like his presentation as far as the comp plan. So obviously. [2:43:22, 2:43:36]: Obviously we're um we're recommending that uh or asking that it be uh changed from low density mixed use to the MFR. Um we do meet the MFR um the medium density residential uh density requirements. [2:43:36, 2:43:56]: We're uh asking for 7.35 units per acre, which is less than the 7.99 that are uh is the max in a medium Disney res uh medium density uh zoning. Uh we're asking to rezone from C2 to MFR. Um the variances, uh I can go through those as well. Um [2:43:56, 2:44:16]: And I'll give you a little explanation of why we're asking for those variances. So the front setback, I think kind of maybe the staff has has presented some additional information to you guys. Um and it kind of goes along with what we were asking for from the 50 to the 30. If you think back uh on most townhome developments you've been in, most of the [2:44:16, 2:44:36]: people that live in those are younger families or maybe some some older families as well. They don't want a whole lot of yard maintenance. So we try to pull the the units closer to the road a little bit. Uh obviously have enough room between the sidewalk and the front of the house to have a car in the driveway, but not have just a ton of maintenance. So that's kind of the the theory behind the uh [2:44:36, 2:44:56]: Reducing the front setbacks. The side setback. Do you have any other slides besides this one? I do. I I'll get to those in just a second. I'm sorry. Yeah. Go right in, please. I apologize. Thank you. So the side setback. So this one, the the city ordinance says that the minimum side setback is 15 feet, but [2:44:56, 2:45:00]: the minimum distance between houses [2:45:00, 2:45:18]: is twenty feet. So that would be ten on each side. So all we're trying to do is make our get a variance to make it meet that requirement of the of the ordinance. So if you otherwise it would be thirty feet between units. So we're trying to bring it down to meet [2:45:18, 2:45:23]: The minimum distance between buildings of twenty feet, and that's a that's a typical fire code as well. [2:45:23, 2:45:43]: So that was our that was our premise behind uh requesting that uh variance as well. As far as our open space goes, um, you know, we more than meet the open space requirements. Uh we gotta have a minimum of two point oh four acres, we have two point eight one. Um this uh property, if it was to be developed. [2:45:43, 2:46:03]: to its maximum density and meet, for instance, the I believe it's parkside, which is across the street from us there, which is high density, we could get up to 162 units on this property. If we were to go for a high density, we chose not to do that. And you can tell by looking [2:46:03, 2:46:23]: at the plan here. You know, we do we did try to reserve a a decent amount of open space, you know, kind of in between the units and along the frontage out there to give a little buffer along Highway 42, but also to design it to where you're not the back of your house is not just butted up against another another unit. [2:46:23, 2:46:32]: to give a little bit more room, a little more privacy. And so that was kind of our thought to reduce some of the units um and make it just a little bit uh higher quality product. [2:46:33, 2:46:47]: Uh we've got plenty of amenities in this project, uh pool with cabana, playgrounds, um some additional guest parking. We're gonna do a real nice decorative um kind of the black wrought iron type uh fencing along the front. [2:46:47, 2:47:07]: Uh we've got a second entry in the back. It's gonna be an emergency entrance. Actually that driveway is is uh currently installed as well. So um that's gonna be just kind of a uh secondary fire access. It will be not there will be no m major traffic through there. Um we have two car garages on all of our units. [2:47:07, 2:47:25]: We're not doing any one-car garages. They'll all be two to three-story. We started off with just a two-story product, and the more we got to talking, we we kind of decided that uh we we're gonna go to a three-store unit and I'll show you some renderings of those in just a second. [2:47:26, 2:47:35]: Um but we are surrounded by, you know, a lot of single family, but the densities are pretty you know pretty comparable to those to those units. Um [2:47:37, 2:47:53]: All the units will be uh at least eighteen hundred square feet. They'll probably go up to even twenty three hundred on some of the the uh three storey units. Uh they'll be constructed with mostly brick, stone and stucco. Uh the remainders of the so the the front of the house will be all be brick, stone, and stucco. [2:47:54, 2:48:14]: The sides and the rears will be a mix of shakes, board and batten, and some concrete hardy boards. Now we also are going to do at least an eight foot high uh masonry water table around the unit. So if we know what the water water table is, so basically the first almost the first floor of each unit. [2:48:14, 2:48:34]: Will be uh brick, stone, or stucco. Okay. Um, and then above that would be the Hardy or the Shakespeare or the batten board. Um they'll have uh real nice decorative garage doors, front doors on all the units. Again, like I said, two car garages. The and if you look through here, let me go down. [2:48:34, 2:48:39]: Okay. This is one of the renderings that I showed before. [2:48:40, 2:49:00]: I wasn't able to kind of change the picture of this, but I do want to stipulate in in the minutes that the little overhangs above the garage, and you'll see on some of our other units. Here we go. Here's one of our three-story units. So the little overhangs over the front doors and the in the center windows, we're going to do the like the metal roof. [2:49:00, 2:49:06]: on those instead of instead of shingles. So it it makes a much much nicer product. [2:49:07, 2:49:17]: kind of flip through here. So these are these are some of the uh renderings uh and just samples of of kind of what the interior of the units will look like. You can tell they're [2:49:17, 2:49:37]: Uh they're very nicely appointed, lots of windows, um solid surface countertops, um trim moling, you know, very modern, updated type uh units. These are a lot of the same products that are being built, you know, all in Atlanta, um, and we really feel [2:49:37, 2:49:56]: like this will cater to um a lot maybe more of a younger working type crowd um in this area especially uh how close it is to the uh interstate and you know all the amenities around I mean you can walk to the the restaurants um [2:49:57, 2:50:16]: and everything else around you. So it's it's in a great location. Um and we really, really are proud of these uh these interiors that we're proposing. So again, this is the three-story unit that we just recently added today. Again, this this was really the only rendering of the outside that I added today that wasn't in the original presentation. [2:50:17, 2:50:19]: Anyway, so there's some more of those [2:50:20, 2:50:21]: Those uh renderings. [2:50:22, 2:50:34]: So we'll have mandatory homeowners association that'll include the lawn service, garbage collection, uh with community mailbox. Again, you saw the on the rendering there, we've got uh a pool with a pool cabana. [2:50:34, 2:50:36]: Um restrooms. [2:50:36, 2:50:40]: And fire pit, playground. So we we really tried to [2:50:40, 2:51:00]: We really envision this as a as a kind of an upscale type of townhome development in this area, it being so centrally located, close to Eagles Landing, uh it's really got a lot going for it. So I'll answer any questions or I'd like to reserve the few seconds I got left for rebuttal. Got uh Mr. Azankoy, please. [2:51:00, 2:51:20]: Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate uh the presentation and to some Miss Gantt can breathe over here. They're not gonna be all 100% brick. Uh I think we had discussed uh that we would have uh fifty percent of them be a hundred percent brick, and then there would be some flexibility uh on the other fifty percent that would be left to the homeowner. [2:51:20, 2:51:40]: Consistent with what we did with Brandon Row. So the homeowners could have some options on what they want to do with the facades. We certainly also discussed three-size brick. So the size of the unit would be brick, and then the water table would be on the rear of the unit so that we would have some. [2:51:40, 2:52:00]: consistency as far as that is concerned. So there were some additional conditions. Uh of course the can you've already read the it's a gated community, flock cameras at the entrances, at the entrances. There would be a 10-foot multi-use path along highway 4223 with six [2:52:00, 2:52:20]: foot sidewalks uh inside, not five foot, six foot sidewalks inside. Uh the staff described the acceleration lane that would be there if council did so desire. And then you described the minimum square footage which is 1800 square feet. We want them to be not basic townhomes, which you have described are really [2:52:20, 2:52:24]: [10344.2, 10364.2]: a town home where when you walk inside that door, you did not know that you were in a town home. The only distinguishable difference would be when you walk out the door, you wouldn't have a large yard, and these yards are going to be taken care of for the uh rock and go living as you had indicated, if council was so desired. [2:52:44, 2:53:04]: uh for that to be. Uh we talked about that a clubhouse, a pool, a cover pavilion, and also an outdoor grill area was agreed upon with a fire pit and then uh the black metal decorative street lights uh would go along uh the frontage along highway 42 uh [2:53:04, 2:53:24]: if that was so desired. And uh the acceleration lane, if it were possible, and you you have to go to GDOT to see whether it's possible or not to try to connect it to that turn lane uh at East Lake and whether they would allow you to do that or not because they're gonna widen Highway 42 eventually. They might even give you the funds to do it. [2:53:24, 2:53:44]: with like they did at Jodico, they advanced the funds so that that could be done. So the acceleration lane that you're going to be putting in, you would check with GDOT and staff would work through the process in order to see whether or not you could connect that acceleration lane with the turn lane so those residents when they were coming out would not have to fight with those two lanes of traffic. [2:53:44, 2:54:04]: They would just have a uh an automatic out right there, which would be adding a lane if council so uh desired in order to uh approve this. But looks like a really, really good product. And again, um I think you mentioned that the three-story unit uh is something that is completely lacking uh from this. [2:54:03, 2:54:23]: community. I can tell you that those items are something that's highly desirable for the community. So thank you for bringing a three-story model ahead. And again that will give us the square footage that will actually be bigger than the homes, uh most of some a a lot of the homes that are surrounding uh these particular town homes. [2:54:23, 2:54:30]: So thank you. Yes sir. Questions council. Anybody? Miss Barber, go ahead, please. Yes. [2:54:30, 2:54:36]: Okay. So the entrance and exit points. That's what I wanna [2:54:36, 2:54:39]: Yes. [2:54:40, 2:54:41]: Access point. [2:54:41, 2:54:42]: And one [2:54:43, 2:54:56]: Exit. Yes, ma'am. And it yes ma'am. It lines right up with that parkside drive right across the street. And that that is actually existing at this time. Okay. Now we have a secondary emergency access. [2:54:57, 2:55:08]: Okay, so if you look and it's kind of hard to see on this drawing, but the very co uh last cul de sac here that that um is on the very southwest corner, if you look on the plan. [2:55:08, 2:55:24]: There's actually another existing curb cut on Highway 42 there. And so we're going to use that as a secondary uh fire access, just emergency. It'll be gated off to where, you know, people are not coming in and out. It'll have a knox box on it. And um [2:55:25, 2:55:34]: You know, so it's a secondary emergency access. Yes, ma'am. Okay, so this is gated. When I spoke with the gentleman on Friday, Mr. Moore, he said it was not gonna be gated. [2:55:35, 2:55:55]: We've kind of been back and forth on some of that. It's still uh honestly, we're a little unclear um if we can do gated gates on a public street. And we're still we kind of worked we've asked that question with staff. We had I don't know we've gotten kind of a a definitive answer yet. We would like to gate it, but we also need to do these things these are [2:55:55, 2:56:03]: Going to be public streets. You know, we do have right-of-ways shown that will be dedicated to the city. Um, and so we're kind of working through that issue. Um [2:56:05, 2:56:17]: So I'm saying if you ask our staff and w our staff can't be able to do that. Seems like that. [2:56:18, 2:56:28]: As far as I I I know, Mayor Ford, um it can't be gated on a um on a public street. It has it has to be non gated. But w if the streets remain private, he can put a gate up. [2:56:28, 2:56:30]: Okay, thank you. Go ahead, proceed. [2:56:30, 2:56:32]: Uh no no, you're fine, Mr. Anson. Proceed. [2:56:33, 2:56:34]: Ms. uh M Barber. [2:56:34, 2:56:37]: My next question is regarding the traffic study. [2:56:38, 2:56:38]: Um [2:56:40, 2:56:44]: When was that conducted? Uh there wasn't one done. Um it was not required. [2:56:44, 2:56:49]: It wasn't required. Okay, that area is heavily traveled. [2:56:49, 2:56:52]: Um and I can only imagine. [2:56:52, 2:56:58]: Um those who may be exiting this development and trying to turn left. [2:56:59, 2:57:00]: Yes, I'm listening. Um [2:57:02, 2:57:04]: Uh there are safety concerns there. [2:57:06, 2:57:17]: Yes, ma'am. Uh if in the staff's report that they did originally, uh they did some traffic analysis uh on that. Take me just a second here to find it. I apologize. [2:57:19, 2:57:33]: It uh the uh average daily traffic on highway forty two was like seventeen thousand something cars per day. See, I know that's just and we were only expected to generate uh [2:57:35, 2:57:38]: I apologize. I'll find it here in just a second, but um [2:57:39, 2:57:42]: When was that analysis done? [2:57:42, 2:57:47]: This this was done by the staff, uh and it was in their uh staff report. [2:57:47, 2:57:48]: When was that done? [2:57:48, 2:57:51]: This was prior to the planning commission meeting, so [2:57:52, 2:57:53]: [10674.8, 10676.3]: You cycle here it I found it. [2:57:57, 2:58:04]: That that information came from G D Doc's website, the average number of vehicles uh that travel that road per day. [2:58:05, 2:58:25]: Yeah, seventeen thousand two hundred uh vehicles per day. Um and our deficient uh additional traffic uh would was only a couple hundred vehicles a day. So it was kind of a drop in the bucket compared to the average digital traffic on. Thank you, sir. I do have follow-up question for you, Mr. Anderson. So [2:58:25, 2:58:26]: Because it seems like we're [2:58:26, 2:58:32]: Inconsistent and I don't know why. I need to understand. I know that there are some developers who do [2:58:33, 2:58:35]: Conduct a traffic study. Why wouldn't [2:58:36, 2:58:51]: that happen across the board? Um it didn't reach the thresh threshold. Um but it's not too late for us to ask for one. But uh it didn't reach the threshold that triggers um uh didn't reach the thresh the threshold. He only has a hundred units. [2:58:52, 2:58:53]: Okay, so [2:58:54, 2:58:55]: Stay right. [2:58:55, 2:58:57]: Mm. That road is being expanded. [2:58:58, 2:58:59]: Yes, it's not a good thing. [2:59:00, 2:59:02]: Because of the traffic volume. [2:59:02, 2:59:04]: Mm-hmm. You're adding to the volume. [2:59:05, 2:59:11]: Yep, yes. So I'm a bit confused as to why this would not be required. [2:59:11, 2:59:26]: for a development that's coming there to an area that's already heavily traveled. Yeah I I like the renderings. I do. I'm impressed with it. Um I'm just seeing it for the first time though, which I could have gotten it before now. [2:59:27, 2:59:44]: Um, but I have some concerns regarding the safety of this. If that study or analysis that you did was just done a couple of months ago and you didn't look at what the um traffic volume is during the school year. [2:59:44, 2:59:49]: Now the school is back in. I'm sure traffic has increased in the area. [2:59:51, 2:59:51]: Um [2:59:53, 3:00:07]: To be honest, South Code doesn't require a traffic study for a project of this magnitude. Um, but that was the most recent G DOT information that we provided in the staff report. Oh. Of the number of units traveled on that road. [3:00:08, 3:00:11]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [3:00:11, 3:00:31]: Follow up one more thing, if if you don't mind. So this product this uh this site is actually pretty unique as it has an existing D cell lane and left turn lane already installed. So there's not really any more um traffic measures that you can do other than that. I mean I think [3:00:31, 3:00:35]: think we all kind of realize they're probably not gonna put a light right there. It it so close to [3:00:36, 3:00:43]: Eagles landing, right? So we've kind of got all of the things already in. Let's say there wasn't a left turn landing. [3:00:43, 3:01:03]: Potentially G Dot would have come back and said, Okay, based on the traffic counts, you need to add a left turn lane. But luckily with this with this site, we already got one in. So that that really does help keeping people stopping in the middle of the road trying to turn in and all of that. So well it helps with the cost of the development, but it certainly does not help um alleviate or [3:01:03, 3:01:05]: Minimize um [3:01:06, 3:01:10]: Oh sure. Sure does. In the safety concerns. Oh absolutely. So I know [3:01:10, 3:01:11]: There's a median. [3:01:11, 3:01:13]: In the middle of the road there. Mm-hmm. [3:01:14, 3:01:16]: So if someone wants to turn in [3:01:16, 3:01:19]: Um turn left into the development. [3:01:20, 3:01:22]: I'm just concerned. [3:01:22, 3:01:23]: Yeah, now there's a left turn line. [3:01:24, 3:01:27]: There's a left turn lane, but there is no light there. [3:01:27, 3:01:29]: No no no, there's not a light there, no ma'am. Okay. [3:01:30, 3:01:30]: Is [3:01:31, 3:01:50]: I live in the area and I kinda know that it's heavily traveled. Yes ma'am. There are peak hours of the day and now that school is back in, um, traffic has picked up. Yes, ma'am. So I just I don't know if you all can add caution lights or fla I don't know, but it's certainly a safety concern. [3:01:50, 3:02:10]: Um for me there. That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. I think and then in the end understand the long term process and understanding that we understand up here we raise traffic concerns, but under the law we address them the best way. [3:02:10, 3:02:30]: that we can and as the staff has described. And fortunately for us down the road, GDOT is going to widen this road. The right-of-way acquisition will start in 2027 and then hopefully the project will start a couple years after that. So there is some improvements that we know are coming to the area. [3:02:30, 3:02:50]: But growth is going to come and we know property rights have people have the right to sell their property. So we would ask you to do what's necessary in order to, as again, as I said, to try to s go back to GDOT and see whether or not that acceleration lane could be connected to the turn lane. The staff of the GDOT will tell you whether you can do it or not. [3:02:50, 3:03:10]: And what that would do is give the residents a out when they're coming out to turn out through there. And then again, there's a break in the median right at the gate. So basically you could go uh uh to turn the left because there's a break in the median, it's not a solid median at that point. These challenges always face us because it's always [3:03:10, 3:03:30]: Always gonna be some traffic situations coming there. But if we know as far as we stand, if you're gonna put the traffic somewhere, you want to put it against four or five lane Eagles Landing Parkway and in a destination that you know is going to be uh improved uh at this point. So [3:03:30, 3:03:37]: I appreciate uh the presentation and and and again the desire is to have the community be gated. Yeah. Yes. [3:03:38, 3:03:40]: Uh counselor, anybody and counselor any questions at all? [3:03:41, 3:03:41]: Okay. [3:03:43, 3:03:48]: This is it. So I wanna know, um, are you able to reduce the amount of units here to fifty? [3:03:48, 3:03:51]: As opposed to the hundred. Um [3:03:51, 3:03:52]: Well [3:03:53, 3:04:13]: The short answer is no. Uh again, you know, we could have uh I c you can look at the plan and kind of envision we could have gotten a lot more units on this plan than we did. Uh we felt like a hundred was a really good number. It was a good balance in between a low density and a high density. [3:04:13, 3:04:33]: Uh that's kind of why we didn't request a high density. Uh we just felt like the low excuse me, the medium density was a good transition between the lower densities to the east of us and the high density to the west of us. Uh because the park side is considered um high density and then the um [3:04:33, 3:04:37]: I think it's Lakeside to the east of us, that was more of a uh low density. So we felt [3:04:38, 3:04:57]: If we stayed in that that kind of that sweet spot of right around a hundred units, it's it it it was a good transition. So honestly, we really feel like it that's a pretty good number. It still makes the project viable. Um, you know, as you know, if you get to so few a units, it's it's not it's not even viable. So [3:04:59, 3:05:06]: You know, I I feel like you know, truthfully we could have gotten quite a bit more units on this project, but we just we just felt like this was a good sweet spot. So [3:05:07, 3:05:08]: Um [3:05:09, 3:05:13]: Where did I get a hundred and forty units from? When I'm was I reading the other [3:05:14, 3:05:17]: I think if we went to a if we went to if we had requested [3:05:18, 3:05:33]: uh a a change to a high density, we could have gotten a right around a hundred and forty, I think it was actually a hundred and sixty. Is that what you submitted your application for? No ma'am. No, it's been a hundred from day one. Okay. Uh I I um sorry. So the other thing I wanted to ask though. [3:05:34, 3:05:35]: Was [3:05:37, 3:05:46]: Just extending or adding additional uh homes, single family detached homes to Lakeside, was that not an option for you? [3:05:48, 3:05:50]: Uh well there's [3:05:51, 3:06:11]: There's homes all the way on the cul-de-sac on both sides. Uh excuse me, lakeside is to the east, correct? Yeah, that's right. Um there's not really any access through there. Uh there's a power line that goes through there that's pretty wide, uh, that actually separates our property from the lakeside as well. Um, but there was really no way to add a street through. [3:06:11, 3:06:15]: [11175.5, 11177.4]: Yeah, there just there really wasn't um [3:06:18, 3:06:20]: There really wasn't a way to do that. [3:06:20, 3:06:22]: And also you know, I go back to [3:06:23, 3:06:43]: We were kind of we were kind of targeting this type of product, like the two and the three story type of townhomes. There's not a lot of that right around through there. It's a really good location. It's close to all the amenities. And so we really felt like, you know, that's that's kind of uh a product that's missing in that area. So that's kind of the reason why we we went we went that route. [3:06:43, 3:06:43]: Right. [3:06:44, 3:07:01]: Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Last question. Okay, go ahead. Well, these will be three fifty to over four hundred. Thank you. And Kate, what's the square footage um for [3:07:01, 3:07:06]: Uh eighteen hundred to twenty three hundred. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [3:07:07, 3:07:27]: If there are no other questions for the council, then I'll open up for the public uh hearing. Thank you, gentlemen. You have a seat for right now. All right, so I'm gonna open up to see whether or not then if we have anybody that uh any comments uh that people want to make for and against. So for any comments for this development, I'll start on my very left side over here. Anybody want to make any comments in my left side? [3:07:27, 3:07:43]: side. Anybody might make comments for this development in the middle? Anybody on the right side? Any comments for for this development? Okay, none. Anybody have negative comments, comments not for, not in positive no positive comments, don't want this development. Anybody on my left side? [3:07:43, 3:07:58]: Okay. If you if you wanna make a comment, man, stand up stand up and come right line up up here and I'll get you allow you to talk in just a little bit. Anybody else that has any negative comments or no stand by right there. Right there, man. So right there. You're right there. Uh anybody in the middle that have wanna make any comments uh against this project. [3:07:58, 3:08:00]: Yeah, you you wanna make a comment against the project, ma'am? [3:08:01, 3:08:04]: Uh right up behind this lady over here, please. Okay. [3:08:05, 3:08:18]: Any any anybody from my far uh right? And want any negative comments, comments uh discounting discounting this particular project? Okay, I see three individuals. Okay, ma'am, if you come to the mic please, your name and address. [3:08:21, 3:08:27]: My name is Janet Murick Beekler. My address is three one three Royal Crescent Way Stockbridge. [3:08:27, 3:08:28]: Okay, go ahead, please. [3:08:28, 3:08:35]: I'm sorry? Go ahead with your comments. Okay. I am not I'm kinda half and half. I'm not against the development. [3:08:35, 3:08:42]: What I am against is the number of units in the development. He's saying seven per acre. [3:08:43, 3:08:45]: Could it be reduced to six, five? [3:08:45, 3:08:51]: I don't want to see a variance. I'd like to see it stay at fifty and fifteen. [3:08:51, 3:08:53]: The other thing. [3:08:53, 3:08:54]: And I'd like [3:08:54, 3:09:06]: I'd like to understand this and I understand that traffic is not an issue for anybody for denying this. And I'm not asking you excuse me to deny this project. I think it's a good one. [3:09:07, 3:09:11]: I j what I don't like is the number because you're gonna put two hundred [3:09:11, 3:09:14]: Віякс он на род. [3:09:14, 3:09:27]: It takes me getting out of parkside on school days almost five minutes to make a left-hand turn. And the only road that I can make a left-hand turn to get out of my development. [3:09:27, 3:09:29]: is twenty twenty three. [3:09:29, 3:09:33]: We cannot make a left hand turn on Eagles Landing. [3:09:33, 3:09:34]: Because of the median. [3:09:35, 3:09:39]: So what you have to do is you have to cross three lanes of traffic and make a U turn. [3:09:40, 3:09:43]: Наб'ю дай. [3:09:44, 3:09:45]: So the other thing [3:09:46, 3:09:52]: Our driveway and this development's curb cut are directly across from one another. [3:09:53, 3:09:59]: Юсю хапина U-turn, mainly the trucks for the fencing компані. [3:09:59, 3:10:00]: In that same area. [3:10:01, 3:10:04]: And then you've got the left hand turns coming down. [3:10:04, 3:10:06]: I'm trying to get out. [3:10:06, 3:10:11]: They're trying to get out. We're directly across from one another. Not a good way to do a driveway. [3:10:12, 3:10:14]: Тей штер щоб alternating driveways. [3:10:14, 3:10:18]: No driveway should be directly across from another driveway. [3:10:18, 3:10:20]: You don't do that in a development. [3:10:21, 3:10:23]: There's z there's zigzagd. [3:10:24, 3:10:25]: Um [3:10:28, 3:10:30]: Let's see, what else did I have? [3:10:32, 3:10:37]: Again, I don't I don't wanna see the setbacks changed. I think they should be there. [3:10:38, 3:10:41]: Амінюкас дан он [3:10:42, 3:10:45]: Parks uh are on um twenty thirty [3:10:45, 3:10:47]: Twenty three forty two. [3:10:47, 3:10:54]: Where the houses are like California houses, right next to each other. You can stand between the lots and you can't spread your arms out. [3:10:55, 3:10:57]: If you have a fire, you're gonna have a problem. [3:10:59, 3:11:11]: Our homes are twenty feet apart on both sides. So there's there's forty feet of neighbor space. Fifteen. Whatever. Okay. But anyway. [3:11:12, 3:11:14]: I'd just like to see [3:11:14, 3:11:16]: The rules. [3:11:16, 3:11:19]: that are on your books adhered to. [3:11:19, 3:11:23]: If you say that the frontage should be fifty, it should be fifty. [3:11:24, 3:11:27]: If you say the fifteen on the side, it should be fifteen on the side. [3:11:28, 3:11:35]: What's the exception? What's the reason for the exception? Why do I need to do that? Because somebody doesn't want to mow the front yard? [3:11:38, 3:11:43]: I mean that's not a reason to make an exception. Okay. But I really think you should give thought to [3:11:44, 3:11:54]: How people coming out of both developments with people trucks, not just cars, trucks with fencing equipment on it, making a U-turn there. [3:11:55, 3:12:04]: Okay, thank you. Especially during busy traffic. Thank you for your comments. Thank you. Next next individual, please name and address. No, next individual. You're you're done, ma'am. [3:12:05, 3:12:06]: Come on, sir. [3:12:11, 3:12:14]: Name and address. Name and address, please. [3:12:14, 3:12:34]: Uh Victor Hudson, 178 Parkside Drive, Stockbridge, 3028Y. Thank you. Uh the traffic is my primary uh primary concern. Uh we've uh been in Parkside for the better part of you know what 20 years and the growth in the area, you know, which we appreciate growth has been slowly. [3:12:34, 3:12:54]: Substantial. Um coming out of parkside and making a left at the same entrance that we'll share with them would be problematic. No, uh when you're coming out, you uh make an immediate turn and uh you go down to uh Eagles Landing Parkway and then there [3:12:53, 3:12:57]: [11577.4, 11580.0]: so close to an intersection, which I get that. [3:13:00, 3:13:00]: But [3:13:01, 3:13:04]: In park's I no that was a bone of contention. [3:13:04, 3:13:14]: when that medium was placed there in the first place because uh you know, we were told originally that there would be a light, which of course it couldn't be that close to uh the intersection. [3:13:14, 3:13:22]: But uh I suspect the hundred townhomes uh initially were turning to one sixty at some point. [3:13:23, 3:13:30]: And uh that's even more traffic that you know we're gonna get. So I'd love to see a traffic study. If it came from [3:13:34, 3:13:41]: Or w we don't know the date of that study, but in the time I've been in Parkside I know there's been substantial growth. [3:13:42, 3:13:45]: So thank you, sir. Ma'am, if you can, name and address, please. [3:13:47, 3:13:47]: Okay. [3:13:51, 3:13:55]: Hello, my name is Tanya Jackson. I'm at eight thirty six rock lane. [3:13:55, 3:14:03]: Um and as the young lady um before me spoke, I'm concerned about the um the um reducing the requirements for the [3:14:04, 3:14:09]: the side yards and the and the setbacks, um and some of the um [3:14:09, 3:14:10]: Town home [3:14:11, 3:14:31]: um communities that I've observed, it seems like the closer the setbacks are, the more crowded the neighborhood looks. So I wouldn't be opposed to that. Um I do have a question um that came up since being here. I know the gentleman or someone mentioned that it would be front side brick or stucco and then someone else mentioned on the council that it would [3:14:31, 3:14:35]: be three size bricks so I was a little confused as to which would it which would it be. [3:14:37, 3:14:47]: We'll we'll get you that answer. Is that all you have, ma'am? Yeah. Okay, thank you. Uh she needs to talk to Scler. Uh Ryan and and uh uh builder, you need to come back up into the mic, please. [3:14:48, 3:15:08]: Mayor. Yes, sir. If you would, the condition was going to be that fifty percent of them would be uh full brick, three sides, and then there would be a water table on the back. And then the other fifty percent would be up to the residents to decide whether they wanted brick stone or stucco. Uh [3:15:08, 3:15:28]: Uh kind of similar to the p rendering that you had. It had some brick and then it had some um uh at the top there you got the uh concrete fiber board. So that's some flexibility. So the residents would get decide what the other fifty percent would be. Okay, that's when they bought the home. We're good with that, yes sir. Okay, that's one on okay and re could you just go ahead [3:15:28, 3:15:38]: Yeah, d we haven't voted on this obviously, but further explain explain about the setback requirement, what you're asking, why you're asking it for, things of this nature. If you s further explain that please. [3:15:38, 3:15:58]: Sure. So so the front setback again and and I think uh um this gentleman was telling he addressed kind of some ordinance changes that they're proposing as well to kind of match what we're asking for. Um that's pretty typical. I think he said the average is twenty five feet on a front setback on a town on development. That's right. Uh normally [3:15:58, 3:16:10]: I've done quite a few of these projects and I've never done one more than probably say thirty foot on a front setback. That's all over Atlanta. Um it's just that's kind of the that's kind of the um [3:16:12, 3:16:32]: The standard for what you want to do in a town on the valley. You try to pull the units a little closer to the road, reduce the front yard, reduce the maintenance, and all that kind of stuff. The side setback again is really to match what the ordinance says right now. Your ordinance says. [3:16:32, 3:16:52]: minimum of twenty feet between buildings. So that would mean 10 feet on one side of the property line and 10 feet on another. All right, but the ordinance says you got to have a 15 foot setback. So all we're trying to do is reduce it to meet the other part of the ordinance of the minimum distance between buildings. So that's all we're asking for there is is we're still [3:16:52, 3:17:12]: Obviously I'm familiar with the the medium in there. So otherwise I'd never thought about this I guess brought up there. So otherwise they're both uh driveways are facing each other, but they're on opposite ends of the road with the medium there and you gotta make the left turn. I don't know how else we can change other than do uh D Dok eventually or span uh D Dop eventually spanning the road some years from now. So I [3:17:12, 3:17:32]: I don't know if can you further explain that or uh and I and I was just having this conversation with with the very nice lady over here as well. So GDOT put that uh our driveway cut in there where they did for a reason. So we always try when we're designing driveways, GDOT has a rule that you always want to try to line them up with each other. [3:17:32, 3:17:52]: Reason is is because if you think about it, if you stagger the driveways, let's say you have somebody coming out of parkside and they're trying to take a left, somebody's coming out of ours and trying to take a right. Well, this person's accelerating, they're gonna run into each other. When they're lined up, you go like this. So you don't run into each other. So that's kind of the reason why [3:17:52, 3:18:11]: GDOT has a standard of always trying to line up driveways. In fact, they have minimum driveway spacings, offset driveways, so you can't be within like two or three hundred feet of having offset driveways. So there's they've got quite a bit of rules on that and and reasons why, but they put that driveway in where they did so it would be where it is. [3:18:11, 3:18:31]: Okay. Yeah. And when you explain earlier that hundred hundred units is what it's gonna be, could have been more, but but you felt it's best to have a hundred units there for this thing. Not lower but not higher, hundred is a great max uh uh great number for this development. Exactly. Okay. And when you get over a hundred, I think you have to have an additional driveway. Well, already people are you know, we're all complaining [3:18:31, 3:18:34]: about the traffic and stuff. So we tried to keep it at that sweet spot. Yes, sir. [3:18:35, 3:18:55]: Okay. That d this disregard that for now. Also otherwise and we talked about a traffic study. Traffic study wasn't done. It wasn't the the sit wit situation with the with the homes and the development's not needed, but then again you explained about the already the the actual uh cell reigns that that are already present there in this aspect. So that means the G D looked at that and says it's not necessary'cause this [3:18:55, 3:19:03]: already exist. And so it's it doesn't seem like it'd be any other way to expand any other d way here. You already have everything in place. That's right. [3:19:03, 3:19:15]: Okay. Ryan, anything else you can say about that, sir? Um no, sir. You you hit it on the head. All right. Yes, sir. If I could ask the owner, the applicant to come up. Mr. Moore and Mr. Patterson, y'all come up? [3:19:22, 3:19:42]: Now I'm gonna say this to you, Mr. Moore, and I and I know you all have you originally you said you thought about a hundred and forty, you got it down to a hundred. Yes, sir, yes sir. Which is a nice round number. And certainly we're trying to minimize what the traffic uh study or uh would impact would be. Is that the bottom number? Is there a [3:19:42, 3:19:47]: few more that you might be able to carve off. [3:19:47, 3:20:02]: We think we're at ninety-eight. Maybe ninety-seven. We're not gonna be any more than a hundred. It's we're somewhere between ninety-six and ninety eight units because there's a I don't know how to work this thing. Uh my kids aren't here. Um [3:20:03, 3:20:23]: There's up here it's kinda hard to see. Uh I don't know if I can point, but where the where the emergency exit is. Where the emergency exit is right here in the uh emergency ingress egress. Yes, sir. There is a power line. There's a power line easement that runs down actually [3:20:23, 3:20:35]: both sides of the property. One is the uh Lakeside community and there's one right there. And I think we're gonna lose I think we're gonna lose one of one or two of these townhomes right here in the [3:20:35, 3:20:41]: Okay. Okay. Let let's say this then. Let's let let's say let's make that number ninety seven. [3:20:41, 3:21:00]: Okay, that's fine. Yes, sir. Okay. So that'll be three that we'll lose off of there, but certainly you know, somebody would probably wouldn't want to live under power. So we'll go from uh a hundred down to ninety seven. That's pretty much that still makes the project viable for you. Okay. Yes, sir, sure does are you agreeable to that? Yes, sir, we sure are. Okay, thank you. [3:21:00, 3:21:03]: Okay, any other c any other questions from the council? [3:21:04, 3:21:05]: Yes. [3:21:05, 3:21:08]: I still have um there's the safety concern. [3:21:09, 3:21:17]: And I know you under you just explained about why G Dot aligned the driveways um or the entranceways to [3:21:17, 3:21:37]: Park side and this proposed development, but there's still an aspect of safety concerns. Uh I think your subdivision has the same thing. If you'll go to I don't know how to go here, but on East Lake Road, you you're you're right across the street from the continuance of your subdivision. Right. So that's all they're trying to do. These are rules and laws that we can't [3:21:37, 3:21:44]: Can't change the city can't change. Mr. Patters can speak to it because he was over the engineering for all of Henry County and DOT. [3:21:44, 3:21:50]: They required it that way and and and that's that's where they are. You are gonna widen it, but [3:21:50, 3:21:58]: But I mean, it's always a concern. I have children, I've had children being wrecks, and yes, it's it's a it's a definite concern, but at the same time [3:21:59, 3:22:01]: My kids went to school right here by Eagles Landing Christian. [3:22:02, 3:22:20]: For fifteen years from kindergarten all the way through graduation, some construction was going on between seventy-five and their school. So I mean I I understand and I uh you know but when I'm pulling out of even my subdivision, you just mentioned the other side of Lakeside onto East Lake Parkway. [3:22:20, 3:22:26]: Us going head on. I'm trying to turn left. They're trying to turn left. Yeah, it's yeah. [3:22:27, 3:22:36]: That is a concern of mine. Well they have two lanes there, so you should be able to easy you know, turn left each of you. You know that? But [3:22:36, 3:22:47]: Um so I really wish that you could expand onto um lakeside with single family detached homes, but I'm [3:22:47, 3:22:52]: It's a forty foot there's a forty foot drop off and there's houses behind there. [3:22:54, 3:22:55]: No all right. [3:22:56, 3:23:08]: All right, so uh if there are no other questions, uh we're gonna t well thank you gentlemen, appreciate it. Okay, so uh comprehends a plan amendment K C P two zero two four dash zero six. Once again, council district five [3:23:09, 3:23:29]: Council consideration request a comprehensive plan amendment to change the future and land use designation of two parcels on each side of Highway 42, north south, north, south of Eagles Land Parkway from low density mix use to medium density residential to allow for construction of townhome development. The applicant ILI Route 23 L. [3:23:29, 3:23:33]: L L C and Agents George Harper Empowerment Empowerment Engineering. [3:23:34, 3:23:54]: The property contains two parcels as listed below, 13.64 acres within the city limits stop bridge. And the parcel number 069-01009000 contains 10.61 acres in landlost one and two of district seven and eleven. And parcel uh number zero seven [3:23:54, 3:24:05]: 2612 Highway 42 contains 3.3 acres of land lot uh one of District 7. Need a motion to accept this this change. [3:24:06, 3:24:25]: May I make to make a motion to approve and also point out that this has been the thirty foot setback has been um well we'll the standard of what we've been doing in the other developments in district four. Well we'll get to that. We'll get to that. We gotta take w each one of these one at a time so we have a vote on each one. So we'll get to what you're talking about. So move. Thank you. Is there a second? [3:24:26, 3:24:29]: Miss Barber Ms uh uh Gantt second, all favor please indicate. [3:24:31, 3:24:51]: I will abstain. Okay, so 401. Uh Ms. Barber abstains. Okay. For rezoning case RZ 2024-06, Council District 5, consideration of a request for rezoning to rezoning to rezone two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eagles Land Parkway from C to General Park. [3:24:51, 3:25:11]: Commercial to F MFR multifamily residential to allow for the construction of townhome development. The applicant LI Route 23 LLC and the agents George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as are listed below, 13.64 total acres within the Starbury City limits. Variants to require [3:25:11, 3:25:31]: Request RV 2024-06 with reduced in front yard setbacks, the townhome lots from 50 feet to 30 feet. Parcel number 069-0100-9000 contains 10.61 acres, landlots 1 and 2 of districts 7 and 11. Parcel number 07900. [3:25:31, 3:25:43]: This is what [3:25:44, 3:25:51]: Excuse me. I got one question. Yeah, what's your one question? Yeah, what's stand by Mr Thomas? Yes, what's your question? Why is it multifriendly? [3:25:52, 3:26:04]: Well, is townhomes. Yeah, they're part uh in the MFR district. Townhomes are part of the MFR district. Part of the multif uh multifamily residential t uh district. [3:26:08, 3:26:11]: No, mm mm.'Cause it's it's single family detached. [3:26:12, 3:26:14]: It's S R and R R. [3:26:18, 3:26:21]: No, I mean uh no, it still would be a MFR. [3:26:22, 3:26:28]: So you have single family detached. It's still single family, but it's part of multifamily because the buildings are connected. [3:26:29, 3:26:41]: But they still can be, I mean, a single family residence. Okay. Yeah. Remember forward. Yeah, yeah, Mr Thomas go ahead. I want to tell you. Oh, guess something else sir, I'm sorry. I think you uh missed uh R Z twenty the the rezoning. [3:26:42, 3:27:02]: I thought I just read Rizona. Oh, I just read the result. Rizona was next. Rizona is what I just read. Okay. All right. So ms Ms. Thomas, you good? Okay. Okay. Now this is where the conditions will come in and we talked about the gated community with flock cameras at the [3:27:02, 3:27:22]: The entrance. The 10 foot most used path along highway 42 23, the entire frontage, six foot sidewalks inside the development. You say six foot? Yes, instead of five foot. Six. Acceleration lane for the development. Minimum square footage, 1800 to 20. [3:27:22, 3:27:42]: Square feet, square footage. We are incorporating the two levels, and then the three levels will be 65% two levels, 35% three levels. 50% of the units, brick and [3:27:42, 3:28:02]: cement fiber 50% of the units will be all brick. The sides of the unit will be brick with a water table on the rear uh of the unit and then the other 50% will be flexible flexible for the applicant. Flexible for the applicant. Right. Okay. Come to the mic please [3:28:02, 3:28:22]: Come to my place and you're saying a mix on the we didn't have a percentage on the two-story or three-story. We're gonna let the market dictate if the market dictate. Okay, sorry, sorry if the market dictate if they build 85 three-story. Right, right. That that's what we discussed. He's correct. He's correct. The minimum square footage will be 18, and then you will let the market determine what how many we will build of each. [3:28:22, 3:28:42]: Okay. That's correct. I'm sorry. I I that was that was an old note that I'm reading off of, sorry. And then there would be a clubhouse, a pool, a pavilion, and an outdoor grilling area with a fire pit. Right, right. The clubhouse pavilion is one one building without yes, sir. Right. Yes, sir. You had those conditions written down. [3:28:42, 3:28:47]: Yes, yes, ma'am. I think okay, I didn't hear you say ten foot footpath, Councilman Alexander. [3:28:48, 3:28:53]: I thought I did. Ten foot path along the entire frontage of Highway forty two twenty three. [3:29:02, 3:29:13]: Okay. So that's my motion. Okay, that's your motion. You're good with everything that you just mentioned, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right. That's his motion. Is there a second to a motion? I second. Ms. Gantt second that. All in favor, please indicate. [3:29:15, 3:29:25]: Ms. Barber, you you voted how you voted? This is for which of the items I've lost track of where we are. The rezoning. We're talking the rezoning. Number twelve, rezoning. We should vote. [3:29:28, 3:29:44]: Okay, so this is um the rezoning. Yes. For the MFR. Is this where the fifty feet now the variances coming up next? That's coming up next. Say it again. The variance is coming up next. We're on the rezoning now. [3:29:44, 3:29:50]: Okay, but I'm looking at item number twelve and it mentions reducing the front yard setbacks. [3:29:50, 3:29:52]: Under the rezoning case. [3:29:53, 3:29:57]: It does say it resoned uh uh townhome lots from required fifty feet, thirty feet. [3:29:59, 3:30:00]: Mm-hmm. [3:30:00, 3:30:01]: Okay, so [3:30:04, 3:30:09]: We're on number twelve. We're on number twelve. I just read twelve. Yes. [3:30:10, 3:30:10]: Roll number twelve. [3:30:11, 3:30:13]: Sorry. We're on number twelve. [3:30:13, 3:30:14]: Correct. [3:30:15, 3:30:18]: So he just mentioned all of the conditions. [3:30:18, 3:30:19]: Under the rezoning [3:30:20, 3:30:27]: Yes, that's where they go on the So does that also include the thirty feet setback that he's requesting? [3:30:28, 3:30:30]: No ma no ma'am, he didn't include that as a condition. [3:30:31, 3:30:33]: That goes on the s that goes on the variance, right? [3:30:34, 3:30:34]: Yes. [3:30:35, 3:30:48]: But that is not okay, so I'm confused. I'm looking at the agenda. It's in and it's counting case. We can add it. But can I finish my comment before everybody start cutting me off? [3:30:50, 3:30:52]: Looking at item number twelve. [3:30:53, 3:30:56]: You see it, Mr. Andrew? Yes yes ma'am. Okay. [3:30:56, 3:30:57]: But [3:30:57, 3:31:02]: You're saying this variance request it should be under thirteen. [3:31:03, 3:31:05]: Yes, ma'am, that's the variance request. [3:31:05, 3:31:10]: Okay, thank you, I see. The last line up here should have been [3:31:10, 3:31:14]: is duplicated on item thirteen. Thank you, sir. Um [3:31:14, 3:31:18]: You so then I wanted to ask Councilman Alexander, are you gonna consider [3:31:19, 3:31:21]: Um as a condition [3:31:21, 3:31:33]: Requesting that um a percentage of the units be reserved for public service workers, as we mentioned during the retreat, like police officers, school teachers, nurses. [3:31:36, 3:31:40]: I certainly support that, but did we formalize that in any way? [3:31:41, 3:31:42]: I I don't think we did. [3:31:43, 3:31:44]: I don't think so. [3:31:45, 3:31:48]: So uh Mr. Moore, what what what are your thoughts on that? [3:31:50, 3:32:00]: I think that would be a great idea, but I think federal housing will not allow you to stipulate what somebody's occupation has to be. [3:32:01, 3:32:21]: I mean I'm not a expert in the law of that, but I do know I'm a real estate I mean real estate that you can't you can't discriminate against, you know, what somebody's occupation is in buying an F H A or B. Is Quentin over there? It's wolf. So I don't think I I do know this. I do know that a lot of the builders will give will give uh [3:32:20, 3:32:40]: the uh the um first responders and everything they give them extra you know they'll throw a washer dryer in there different things that they will do so you're agreeable to incentives incen any any type of incentive for first responders and uh and school teachers, yes sir. I mean we were trying to attract young professionals here. So okay so we'll include uh that [3:32:40, 3:32:53]: in there that there would be some incentives. As long as it doesn't break any house housing rules regulators. Is that good? Okay. All right. So how how do we need to have that verbiage to make sure we understand? [3:32:56, 3:32:59]: Yeah it is a c I was made man, it will say it is a condition. [3:33:00, 3:33:01]: They're adding. [3:33:05, 3:33:09]: We don't look like any problems taking a vehicle. [3:33:10, 3:33:16]: It'll be a suggestion as the city manager recommends us you I I know you would do it anyway'cause it's certainly gonna benefit you. [3:33:17, 3:33:18]: Yeah. [3:33:19, 3:33:20]: Okay. So we ha [3:33:21, 3:33:26]: So suggest okay, so be a suggestion. So otherwise you have you have that, Madam Clerk. Okay, wait. I have [3:33:27, 3:33:28]: I'm I'm sorry, Madam Clerk? [3:33:30, 3:33:30]: Okay. [3:33:30, 3:33:31]: Okay. [3:33:32, 3:33:34]: All right. Got it. Thank you. Good deal. [3:33:34, 3:33:38]: So with all that that was said, y uh yes, Miss Barber. [3:33:43, 3:33:45]: When we discussed um [3:33:46, 3:33:46]: Oh [3:33:47, 3:33:51]: new proposals and developments that come forward. [3:33:52, 3:33:57]: And I don't know whether y'all all got amnesia uh amnesia because I said it. [3:33:58, 3:34:04]: What I've been asking for for the past couple of years is that we include this. [3:34:04, 3:34:06]: in our code. [3:34:07, 3:34:11]: Just as we require there be a ten percent rental cap. [3:34:12, 3:34:15]: I'm also asking that we include in [3:34:15, 3:34:19]: A percentage. I don't know, two percent, three percent. [3:34:19, 3:34:23]: of all new developments be reserved [3:34:23, 3:34:26]: For public service workers. [3:34:26, 3:34:27]: Now [3:34:28, 3:34:35]: I don't know if Mr. Gardner or Mr. Washington, the city attorney, needs to do the research. [3:34:35, 3:34:37]: On the legality of it. [3:34:37, 3:34:44]: But the reason why I suggested it is to offer them some type of discount on the sale. [3:34:45, 3:34:46]: Of a unit. [3:34:46, 3:34:49]: is for public service workers. Right. [3:34:50, 3:34:52]: Not just incentive a wash and dryer. [3:34:53, 3:34:54]: No. So [3:34:56, 3:34:57]: It warning. [3:34:58, 3:35:18]: Is if you make that a condition, it's hard to enforce who's gonna enforce whether or not they have a public safety official there. That's gonna be one of the issues. I mean, we just can't police that. No one's gonna be out there every time someone closes on a house. Um second, uh uh the law by saying specific people, no [3:35:18, 3:35:22]: Uh, I know what you can do is you can say, Hey, can we have an affordable [3:35:22, 3:35:24]: Of affordability cap. [3:35:24, 3:35:36]: Where you could say, Hey, can X mod of these homes be set aside for low to moderate income families, which would include those folks? Because I I want you all to understand, your typical police officer [3:35:37, 3:35:42]: Makes fifty thousand dollars a year. If these homes are in the four hundred thousand dollar range, they can't afford it. [3:35:43, 3:35:47]: Right, um, so what you do is you try to ask for an affordability cap. [3:35:48, 3:36:08]: Um, to say, hey, can 5% or 2% of the homes be set aside for load-moted income? And part of that is they will have their lenders work with those entities that come in and they can be public safety officials. And this is something when we talked about that, I mentioned the chief, that Henry County actually have down payment and ho and closure. [3:36:07, 3:36:24]: closing cost assistance for specifically um that goes to public safety officials, police, fire, first responders. Right. And I and I think that number has gone up now to like twenty, twenty something thousand now per per household. [3:36:25, 3:36:26]: Um [3:36:26, 3:36:46]: And that's just something that these guys gotta, you know, go through the process with. But if they're willing to do something like that, uh, you can. But to just directly say it has to be a public safety person, uh that might be a problem. But if you say, hey, can you set aside two percent or five percent of the units as affordable units to load and mortal income families? And then [3:36:46, 3:36:50]: Their their their mortgage pricing could work around, you know [3:36:50, 3:36:54]: You know, being able to work with those people to give them the issues to bring the price down. [3:36:56, 3:37:05]: So then how are we able to I know you just mentioned that there's no way for us to track um that two percent that we [3:37:05, 3:37:11]: may ask to reserve for public service workers. Well then we can't track [3:37:12, 3:37:25]: the rentals either. No not rental. For sale. So and a part of the code allows for ten percent rentals. So why can't we also allow [3:37:26, 3:37:35]: Two percent to be rented to public service. So so the rental issue is pretty much not controlled by us, that's gonna be controlled by the HOA. [3:37:35, 3:37:38]: 'Cause that's outside of our purview. That's controlled by who? [3:37:38, 3:37:53]: HOA. Like most HOAs allow don't allow you to have X amount of homes in a subdivision for rental. And then they control that by watching to see who's doing what as it relates to paying your assessments. We can't monitor that. Cities don't monitor that. That's outside our purview. [3:37:54, 3:37:58]: Um legally we can't I mean cause if we can say you do ten percent. [3:37:58, 3:37:59]: How we gonna know? [3:38:00, 3:38:03]: Right. I mean we could go to the tax register and check. Yeah. [3:38:03, 3:38:08]: I mean, but imagine his staff trying to do that for how many subdivisions in the city? [3:38:09, 3:38:14]: Um to track that. I mean that's a separate person trying to do that job in and of itself. [3:38:14, 3:38:15]: Um [3:38:16, 3:38:35]: But, you know, once again, I mean, even when it comes to affordability, you know, somebody's you know, yeah, somebody's gotta be able to say, Okay, what's an affordable item? If it's four hundred, uh, are we setting aside a unit, two or three or four units at three hundred that makes that affordable? And you know. [3:38:37, 3:38:49]: I I don't know. It it just becomes so cumbersome to try to track all of this stuff because it just put a extra burden on on on your staff um to try and track this for every development that comes through. [3:38:50, 3:38:57]: Um you just hope in good fate that they do they provide those and say, Hey, we're providing X amount at [3:38:57, 3:39:08]: at um affordable uh uh for load or mortar incomes and their person who's selling those homes, identify those applicants. And if they get'em then they can share that data with us. But to like [3:39:08, 3:39:10]: Go in and try to track that is hard. [3:39:14, 3:39:21]: All right. So we m have we had a motion and it was seconded. So we I'll take the vote again. All in favor of the motion as indicated, please indicate. [3:39:22, 3:39:23]: Okay. [3:39:23, 3:39:28]: All right. So Miss Barber, you're approving. Okay, so it's five five oh. All right. [3:39:29, 3:39:31]: All right. [3:39:33, 3:39:53]: Variance case RV two zero two four-02 variance request number one to Council District Five. Consideration of variance requests for two variances on two parcels on the east side of Highway 42, north south of Eagles Lion Parkway to allow for construction of a town home development. Variance request number one would reduce the front yard setback. [3:39:53, 3:40:13]: Of the town hall lots require 50 feet to 30 feet. The applicant is LI Route 23 LC. And agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as listed below, 13.64 total acres within the stop and city limits. Parcel number 069. [3:40:13, 3:40:33]: Contains 10.61 acres in landlots one and two of District 7 and 11. Process number 070-0100-1000. 2612 Highway 42 North contains 3.03 acres in landlock 1 of District 0. [3:40:32, 3:40:40]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we need a motion to accept this, please. So moved. Is there a second? [3:40:41, 3:40:45]: Miss uh Miss uh Gantt second, I'll fair please indicate. [3:40:46, 3:40:48]: Oh okay, all pose? [3:40:48, 3:40:54]: I will abstain. Okay. Uh four zero one. I will oppose. This is the variance. This is [3:40:55, 3:40:56]: Wh which is it now? [3:40:57, 3:40:59]: He asked for what did he ask for? Thirty P. [3:41:00, 3:41:08]: The m the um I'm trying to take a vote. W whether you would you vote you voted na nay or you or abstain? Um I will oppose I will approve it. Excuse me? [3:41:08, 3:41:28]: I will approve. Okay, so it passes five zero. Thank you. All right. Variance case R V two Zero Two Four-Zero Two. Variance Request Number Two. Council District Five. Consideration of Varance Requests for Two Variances on Two Parcels on the East Side of Highway 42, North, South of Eagles Land Parkway to allow for the construction of townhome development. [3:41:28, 3:41:48]: Everyone's request number two would reduce the side or set back yard setbacks of the town home lots between buildings from the required uh 15 feet to 10 feet. The advocate ally route 23 L C and the agent is George Harper Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels and are listed below with a 13 [3:41:48, 3:42:08]: point six four total acres within stoppery city limits. Parcel number zero six nine dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero zero contains ten point six one acres in landlots one and two of district seven and eleven. Parcel dash uh zero seven zero dash zero one zero zero one zero zero zero twenty six twelve highway four [3:42:08, 3:42:15]: forty two north contains three point th uh zero three acres in landline one of district seven. Council I need a motion to approve. [3:42:15, 3:42:23]: Uh for clarification, Mr Anderson, this will provide twenty feet between the two homes, correct? Yes. So move. [3:42:24, 3:42:25]: Is there a second? [3:42:26, 3:42:28]: Ms. Uh Gantt Sexton, all free presentate. [3:42:29, 3:42:33]: Um I do have a question. W d what what's your vote? [3:42:34, 3:42:34]: Oh you [3:42:35, 3:42:36]: I have a question. [3:42:37, 3:42:39]: All right. What's your question? [3:42:40, 3:42:47]: So now that we've reduced the number of units for this development by three. [3:42:49, 3:42:52]: Do they really still need this variance? [3:42:53, 3:42:54]: Yes, I mean um [3:42:55, 3:42:57]: It's really not a variance, it's just um [3:42:58, 3:43:10]: It's kinda um hard to explain. Th there's kinda like a conflict in our um UBC. So basically they they will still have twenty feet in between the the two buildings as required by code. [3:43:13, 3:43:24]: But it's written in the in the text that you got to have a um a fifteen feet side yard setback. And that's what and also it says you gotta have twenty feet in between buildings. [3:43:25, 3:43:27]: So it's kind of in conflict with each other. [3:43:27, 3:43:36]: Um okay, so I'm going they still will meet the re the minimum requirement. I'm going to oppose. Okay. I will oppose. Okay. [3:43:36, 3:43:56]: 4-1, the motion passed. New business. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Oh, you are. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Council consideration to approve task order number two zero two four-07 with Falcon Design, Country Club Drive, the traffic and pedestrian safety improvements, the amount of eighty-eight thousand dollars. The funding sources from T C. [3:43:56, 3:44:00]: Oh wait a minute, I'm sorry. [3:44:04, 3:44:09]: Eight thousand. That's not eighty thousand, is it? [3:44:11, 3:44:31]: Oh okay that's what another zero too many zeros throwing me off here. Eighty eight thousand dollars. Funding sources T-SPLOST. All right, Mr. Aaron. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Go ahead. Go ahead, please. This is uh project that was identified in the T S PLOS to make safety improvements on Country Club Drive. It includes [3:44:31, 3:44:40]: A combination of things, a proposed traffic light at the intersection of Country Club and Patrick Henry, as I travel that road every day to and fro. [3:44:40, 3:44:53]: on the way to work and see numerous accidents, numerous near misses. It also includes sidewalks and additional markings and things to uh improve the area for walkability and safety as well. [3:44:53, 3:45:11]: So we're just asking approval of the task for task order so that we can move forward with designing these improvements. All right, thank you, sir. Uh council need a motion to accept this. Mr. Bear so moose. Is there a second? Sir. Mr. Alzheimer's second. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you. All right. [3:45:12, 3:45:32]: All right, now uh announces upcoming meeting events. Uh council meetings will be held in the city council chamber. Meeting dates, location, and times are subject to change, or contact city hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. Citywide Development Authority [3:45:32, 3:45:52]: Meeting second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, September 10th. I just passed. No, that's tomorrow, excuse me. Main Street Advisory Board Meeting on the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. location in the downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, September 13th. [3:45:52, 3:46:12]: Planning Commission meeting third Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers is September 19th. Downtown Development Authority meeting third Tuesday of each month. Stockbridge Downtown Center, 130 a.m. L. King Senior Heritage Trail, September 17th. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30, third Tuesday of each month. [3:46:12, 3:46:22]: Levi Meeting Room City Hall September 17th. City Council work session meeting last Tuesday of each month. Tuesday's July 30th. Okay. [3:46:25, 3:46:45]: 5 36 PM City Hall Council Chambers September 24th. Actually it's on the twenty fourth, not the thirty, obviously. Community zoning and information meeting Wednesday, October second at six P.M. seven uh six to seven PM the City Hall for the Council Chambers, which is gonna be October second there. Starbucks Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting. [3:46:44, 3:47:04]: First Thursday of each month, 6 p.m. a Stockbridge Police and Community Room, 4545 North Henry Boulevard, October 3rd. City Council meeting, second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chamber, October 14th. [3:47:04, 3:47:20]: Levi Meeting Room October 14th. Join the city of Stockbridge for the 50 Shades of Pink Love Walk to highlight breast cancer awareness and survivors of Clark Park and 111 Davis Rove from 1030 to 1 p.m. on the [3:47:22, 3:47:24]: It doesn't give the date here. [3:47:27, 3:47:30]: Anybody have the offer the date of them, have to get that date. [3:47:30, 3:47:36]: The w love walk, the pink love walk. It's on a s on a Saturday. I know it's on a Saturday. It's in October. [3:47:38, 3:47:39]: There's nine too. [3:47:41, 3:47:43]: Okay, one second, yeah, we'll look it up real quick. [3:47:45, 3:48:05]: And I believe you're right. It is the 19th of October, Saturday, 19th October. 19th October. All right. Upcoming events. Uh join the city of Stockbridge for the nine eleven remembrance on Wednesday, September eleventh, beginning at eight AM on the steps of City Hall, 4640, North Henry Boulevard. Uh join Councilman Thomas. [3:48:05, 3:48:25]: Afonso Thomas there for the monthly senior bingo bash on Wednesday 18 September from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merrill Manor's Conference Center 111 Davis Row for Raffles Prizes Games Snacks and F. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for a monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday the 23rd from 10 a.m. to noon the start. [3:48:25, 3:48:45]: City Council, Stockbridge City Hall. Bridgefest 2024 comes coming. This uh City of Stockbridge is hosting its annual event for the community on Saturday, September 28th, 2024, of course. And we'll have live concert, food trucks, vendors, and more. Get ready for the fun at Stockbridge Amphitheater. Please email B. Bradley. [3:48:45, 3:49:05]: at Stockbridge G A.org as soon as possible for vendor opportunities. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative centered around education, highlighting the cause and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow on that. Then of course call contact or excuse me, Councilman Thomas's RN veterans. We continue to salute all year long. [3:49:05, 3:49:12]: Please send your pictures of veterans' names and rank rank branch rank and years of service. And [3:49:15, 3:49:32]: And for Councilman Gantt, we'll be resuming the night market initiative uh September twelfth, uh which is in a couple of days. And that'll be happening also September twenty-sixth, October tenth, November seventh, and November twenty-first. [3:49:32, 3:49:52]: Uh and the location of course in the Amphitheater Parking Lot, 4650 North Henry Boulevard, partnership with Atlanta Food Truck and the times of those dates would be six PM to 9 30 p.m. And it'll be flyers out for that and uh giving you all that information. And this Friday, uh this Friday you'll have the taste of uh Henry. [3:49:52, 3:50:12]: At the Southern Bell Farms September 13th to Friday and from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. So if you and want to check out that, the taste of Henry, please attend that as well. And let's see here, please contact Rosland Ross to schedule the appointment to meet the mayor or for more information. [3:50:12, 3:50:32]: Council Initiatives and Events, 678-3833-3348, or email R Ross at Stockbridge G A.org. Finally, the 2024 Stockbridge Amphetonia Concert Series, Saturday, September 14th, the three-year anniversary celebration of cooling the gang with special guest more stay in the time. [3:50:32, 3:50:32]: Uh. [3:50:33, 3:50:49]: Saturday, October fifth, is featuring Monica Tamar Braskin Braskin Brax Braxton and Seventh Streeter. And that's rescheduled and that'll be the Saturday, the fifth of October. Uh Saturday, October twelfth, featuring that girl Lele and Friends at Youth Concert. [3:50:50, 3:51:04]: All right, uh Sunday, October thirteenth, Kings of Soul of Southern Soul Show, featuring King George, Tuckas, Sir Charles Jones Jones, Pokebare, TK Soul, Westlove and Derek the Chained Man, Smith. [3:51:05, 3:51:25]: Okay, it's the Sunday the 13th, Sunday, October 20th. It's also a rescheduled show featuring Charlie Wilson and special guest this time, Elle DeBarge. And we end the season for the 2024 season Saturday, October 26th. Jazz concert with Boney James, slow burn tour with special guest Damien Escobar. Stockbridge Main Street uh [3:51:25, 3:51:45]: Tiny tent series continues Fridays, weather permitting. The show will start at 6 p.m. and end at 8 p.m. The show will take place at 1 30 ML King Senior Heritage Trail in Stockbridge. Of course, we're in downtown area. Enjoy good food, local restaurants, and our community in one gorgeous location. Bring a family, make it a date night. Okay, make sure you bring [3:51:44, 3:52:04]: Bring your uh your chairs. And uh for my particular comments, uh it is uh it's September, so be safe out there and uh continue to be safe. Obviously, make sure you get your flu shots and any type of other shots for COVID if you need that, any type of health care issues, because the winter is coming and uh it's football season. [3:52:04, 3:52:18]: season so uh root on your favorite football team and uh I'd like to see you all at the concerts coming up before the season ends. On that note, uh I don't have any other I don't know of any executive session issues, council, so I need a motion to adjourn. [3:52:18, 3:52:24]: Is there a second? Second. Okay, Mr. Berry, second. All in favor, please indicate. God bless y'all. Good night. [3:52:25, 3:52:27]: You gotta see all those terrible times?
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    --- title: Community Zoning Information Meeting date: 2024-09-04 source: 2024-09-04_Community_Zoning_Information_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:30, 0:01:32]: Good evening, everyone. [0:01:32, 0:01:37]: Thank you and welcome to the community zoning and information meeting. [0:01:38, 0:01:41]: For Wednesday, September seventh. [0:01:43, 0:02:03]: We would like to start off the meeting with introduction of staff, go over rules and regulations and some procedures, departmental announcements, if there are any, and of course just introduce applicants and then we'll get into our presentations for tonight. [0:02:03, 0:02:12]: This meeting starts at 6 PM and it is an hour long meeting. So we are looking to wrap up around 7. [0:02:15, 0:02:31]: So first I want to introduce staff that are here tonight. Um we have myself, yours truly, Kidra Jatson, the chief planner. And over me is Brian Anderson. He's the director over community development. [0:02:31, 0:02:43]: We also have Linda Logan, the senior planner, and we also have Gordon Linton, planner one with the planning and zoning division. [0:02:45, 0:03:00]: Just go over some rules and regulations for tonight. Um nothing strenuous. We just ask that um you allow the applicant during his or her presentation to allow one to finish. [0:03:00, 0:03:03]: At the end of the presentation, staff will acknowledge your hand. [0:03:04, 0:03:24]: So we do ask that you raise your hand. We will then acknowledge you and allow you to speak. You may ask questions. If there are several others that are here waiting to ask questions, we ask that you just hold your questions until everyone has completed ask asking and getting their questions answered. [0:03:24, 0:03:44]: and you may um proceed to your second question at the acknowledgement of a staff member. And that is throughout all presentations for tonight. Anything that you are disagree with, you know, this is a passionate subject when it comes to new developments. [0:03:44, 0:04:00]: Um people have preference, what they would like in their neighborhoods. And we understand that some topics can get passionate. We ask that you be respectful of those that are presenting to hold all comments or um any. [0:04:00, 0:04:20]: Just outbursts. We ask that those are held. Um, if we have to speak to you more than once and we hope that it will not get to that point, then we may have to ask you to leave the building. Um over there, over overall it's it's just a [0:04:20, 0:04:22]: Simple, informal. [0:04:23, 0:04:33]: presentation tonight so you have the ability and the autonomy to ask any questions you may have of staff and the applicant. [0:04:34, 0:04:45]: As far as departmental announcements, um we do have announcements that we are looking to um begin to working on our [0:04:45, 0:05:05]: uh UDC code. So we are in the process of getting that together where we will be presenting new test amendment test amendments to the city by the city. And we ask that you just stay tuned. These test amendments may affect your development. [0:05:05, 0:05:10]: Or they may not, but y you're more than welcome to contact any staff member. [0:05:10, 0:05:12]: just to get additional information. [0:05:12, 0:05:13]: Um as you know [0:05:13, 0:05:25]: our any test amendment that we bring before a board uh such as planning commission or city council, they are advertised in um [0:05:25, 0:05:40]: in our newspaper. So we do ask that you um feel free to contact us if you have an interest or um just a question about a test amendment that we are bringing forward. Also [0:05:41, 0:05:43]: That's all I have for now. Do [0:05:44, 0:06:04]: Staff members have any announcements they would like to make? Okay. Well moving forward, we'll go ahead into the introduction of the first case. So the first case is a test amendment. It is TS das two zero two four-zero five. This is a citywide [0:06:04, 0:06:06]: [368.4, 385.0]: And that text amendment uh consists of um section two point four point four of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code to modify and augment the regulations for the multiple multiple family residential. [0:06:25, 0:06:41]: as known as MFR zoning district. Um one, the community um are invited to forums like this, which is the community zoning information meeting. Um before you get to this meeting, there is a pre-application meeting that we [0:06:42, 0:06:45]: hold with uh potential developers. [0:06:45, 0:06:48]: Then you come to this meeting, the next meeting will be the [0:06:49, 0:06:56]: planning commission meeting and that is scheduled to um happen on September nineteenth. [0:06:56, 0:07:01]: And after that meeting, any cases that will be held tonight and [0:07:01, 0:07:04]: At the September Fourteenth Planning Commission will then move on. [0:07:05, 0:07:10]: to step excuse me, October fourteenth City Council meeting. [0:07:12, 0:07:32]: Just want to make sure I have those dates correct. And um after that process, if this is a new development, it then goes through land disturbing process as well as a building process. And as you can see before you is a zoning process chart. Um, many of you may be familiar with that. If not, [0:07:32, 0:07:32]: Right. [0:07:32, 0:07:46]: Um, you're more than welcome to call staff to ask any questions, what happens at this point. Um, but this is the formal process w an application would go through to obtain its final approval. [0:07:50, 0:07:55]: So with that said, I'll go ahead and get into the MFR zoning regulations. [0:08:05, 0:08:25]: So before you is uh a proposed text amendment that will be before you. Um this is pertaining to our multiple family residential district, which mainly contain of townhomes and apartments. Um many times developers may have [0:08:24, 0:08:35]: A hardship um with this ordinance. Um it may be a developmental hardship. And so staff began to look closely to see what um [0:08:35, 0:08:49]: adjustments can we make to allow a more relaxed regulation um regarding this district? And so the changes that we are making um [0:08:49, 0:08:56]: are one to the front yard setback. So currently the front yard setback requires a fifty foot [0:08:56, 0:09:03]: setback um from the front property line. We're now amending to change that to 30 feet. [0:09:05, 0:09:25]: Our side yard currently has 15 feet, and we are looking to change that to 10 feet. So the side yard will be reduced to 10 feet with keeping the 20 feet between the buildings. Um other changes we're looking to make is to the [0:09:24, 0:09:44]: uh living space and i apologize um this is um currently not the changes that we've made but as you can see on your screen under minimum living area so studio right now is showing 800 square feet whereas the [0:09:44, 0:10:04]: The one bedroom shows a minimum living area of six hundred and fifty square feet. What staff is proposing to do is switch those to m to make it make sense. So the studio would now be six hundred and fifty square feet, whereas the one bedroom will be eight hundred square feet. [0:10:05, 0:10:25]: And the other changes that we are looking to make are more architectural changes, such as the image, the character of the building. [0:10:25, 0:10:37]: will be landscaping, those will all have um regulations into what the building will look like if one is seeking to rezone their property to MFR. [0:10:38, 0:10:48]: And that concludes this presentation. Again, you will heal hear this again at September 19th Planning Commission. [0:10:52, 0:11:12]: So what I'll go ahead and do is introduce the next case, which is a special use permit case number sp-2024-01. Um this is a public meeting for a special use request to allow a gas station and convenience store. [0:11:12, 0:11:30]: on parcel number zero three two dash zero one zero three zero zero one two. This property is located on the west side of Rock Quarry Road, across from the hospital drive. The applicant is GMI two, Incorporated, [0:11:30, 0:11:36]: Presented by Harold Buckley Jr., Esquire of the Law Firm of Wilson Brock and Erby. [0:11:37, 0:11:49]: And this property is located in land lot thirteen of District Six and it contains four point twenty six acres more or or less. I will now hand it over to mister Buckley. [0:11:57, 0:12:04]: If you were bear with me for just a moment, I'd like to just get set up really quickly and then I'll get going with my presentation. [0:13:09, 0:13:27]: Good evening, my name is Harold Buckley. As mentioned, I am an attorney and land use consultant for GMI2, which is the company that owns the property that you see in the site plan before you and the applicant in this case. [0:13:29, 0:13:49]: Uh just to orient you to the site, and as you you may have noticed, that Kedra did not read an address when she uh described my application, and that's because this property is currently undeveloped and it doesn't have an address. All it has is a tax ID number. If you look at the site plan on the screen, [0:13:49, 0:13:59]: screen and the which is the same as the handout I gave you, just in case your eyes are a little more seasoned like mine are and you find that hard to see. Um [0:14:00, 0:14:20]: Uh you will see a cul-de-sac that leaves off Rock Quarry Road. This site is on the west side of Rock Quarry Road. Uh it is directly across the street uh from the uh the hospital campus uh there on Rock Quarry Road. So if you were on that cul-de-sac and you went straight out. [0:14:20, 0:14:30]: if you went straight across the street, you would be then on the hospital property. So that's where we are talking about. Uh our property is zone C2. [0:14:30, 0:14:50]: Uh and uh the it this property is at the edge of the very large Eagles Landing commercial uh area. It's a lot of high-intensity uses, retail commercial, hotel, those sorts of things. Uh and so uh this is already [0:14:50, 0:14:55]: a a very established uh commercial node. Now [0:14:55, 0:15:15]: What we are asking for is a special use permit, because even though our uh zoning allows uh service stations, uh they're not allowed by right. We have to get site-specific approval for our use from the city council. Uh, if you will look at the rendering, [0:15:15, 0:15:35]: That I gave you, which is the second page, you will notice that although the application has connotations of a quick trip or a racetrack or a traditional standalone gas station, that is not at all what we're proposing. We are proposing what would more accurately be described [0:15:35, 0:15:55]: As a retail development that happens to have pumps on the front. And the reason I say that is because this is going to be, if it's approved, a multi-tenant retail building. There will be five retail spaces, of which the convenience store is just one. And it would occupy [0:15:55, 0:16:15]: The larger space that you see on the end. You know, what are we looking at in terms of the other spaces? We have not started marketing or targeting specific potential tenants yet because it's very difficult to market something that you really don't have the entitlements to. [0:16:15, 0:16:35]: To do. People don't tend to take you very seriously. But in a perfect world, we would have uh retail stores like a say a Verizon shop or uh small eating and drinking uh establishments uh that would go in there, uh maybe a personal [0:16:35, 0:16:55]: Service establishment like a barber could be a possibility. But we are again talking about a larger range of retail than what the term gas station would suggest. And this location is really good for that for a couple of reasons. [0:16:55, 0:17:15]: Number one, there is a lot of medical office around here. You know, the hospital campus is not just the hospital campus. There are medical office buildings where doctors have their offices. There are other residences nearby, not right up on us, that you know would be directly impacted by us at any time. [0:17:15, 0:17:35]: Any negative sort of way, but that gives us a built-in audience for the retail services and neighborhood services that would be offered on this site. It is possible that people could walk here from the hospital campus or from the nearby residential areas. I'm not going to suggest to you that this is going to [0:17:35, 0:17:55]: To turn into Midtown by any stretch of the imagination. But what I will say is the benefit of that proximity is that we have a built-in market where people can, for example, come out of the hospital property and go straight into our property to take advantage of these real retail services. [0:17:55, 0:18:11]: without getting on the road, without having traffic impacts in the surrounding area. So that opportunity in and of itself, I think, distinguishes this proposal from a typical convenience store gas station proposal. [0:18:12, 0:18:32]: The other thing that I would submit to you is that, you know, and it's a little paradoxical, but approving this convenience store actually protects this area from another convenience store because the city has minimum distance. [0:18:32, 0:18:52]: Requirements that are on the books today for you know in the zoning ordinance that would prevent another convenience store from being being able to locate in most of the rest of that commercial development node. That you know we talked about Eagles Landing. So [0:18:52, 0:19:12]: uh you know you if this goes in and this high quality way and not only is this a multi-tenant retail building but you can see in the renderings that this is you know not just say an epis or a stucco or you know some kind of low quality building proposal that we have. This is going to [0:19:12, 0:19:13]: [1154.0, 1164.8]: Uh if you look at the area behind the store, you see those two very large uh green areas with heavy tree cover. That's part of our site. [0:19:25, 0:19:45]: And we are proposing to develop that as well at some future point in time. We don't know exactly what might go there, uh, but our intent and what we have shown the city in prior iterations of our development plans are more medical office, which would make a whole lot of sense. [0:19:45, 0:20:05]: Given the proximity to the hospital and the develop the prevailing development patterns in this area. It could be that, it could be some other use, you know, office use, commercial use, and that would further reinforce the connectivity between. [0:20:05, 0:20:17]: this uh retail development and other people who are these folks would technically be off site, but they're off the gas station portion of the site. Those folks really would be able to walk. [0:20:17, 0:20:37]: Facility, which is consistent with the land use policies that you see in the comprehensive plan that are geared toward encouraging that kind of use. We're designated for mixed use development. So, for example, an office component and a retail component wouldn't meet that mixed use uh process. [0:20:37, 0:20:57]: policy priority. So for all of those reasons, uh we are asking for the city to rezone this property uh to facilitate our development proposal. We think that it that our proposal makes sense in this location. And I'll just stop there because you guys are very smart. I don't [0:20:57, 0:21:09]: need to talk at you for an hour for you to understand what we're talking about here, which is fairly straightforward. So thank you for your time. I'm happy if it's appropriate to take questions or however we go from here. [0:21:15, 0:21:16]: Yes. [0:21:22, 0:21:23]: Mm-hmm. [0:21:24, 0:21:25]: Mm-hmm. [0:21:27, 0:21:47]: So in and I don't know if everybody could hear that, but he said that if folks were walking from the hospital campus trying to cross hospital mean Rock Quarry Road, um that might be a bit of a challenge because there is no traffic signal at that location. Um and uh we don't believe that uh well in order to [0:21:47, 0:22:00]: order to get a traffic signal at this location, you would have to do a warrant study and to actually get the DOT to say that a traffic light is warranted there. I don't know that we would cross that threshold, but [0:22:00, 0:22:20]: A good thing about the the layout of our site and our development is that as I said, that cul-de-sac, which is uh you know going to serve not only the retail component, but the future development at the back, it directly lines up with the driveway to the hospital. So at some future point in time, they could signalize that. [0:22:20, 0:22:20]: Mm-hmm. [0:22:25, 0:22:27]: All right, thank you all very much. [0:22:41, 0:22:44]: Yeah. I don't know how to close a file apparently. [0:22:50, 0:22:58]: Thank you again, Mr. Buckley. So what we'll do is move on to the next case that will be before us and [0:22:59, 0:23:12]: What I'll do is just read it into record. The next case will be a special use permit SP-2024-02. And okay, so let me go to the next one. [0:23:16, 0:23:18]: Okay. Correct. [0:23:19, 0:23:39]: So the next case is a special use permit request to allow a liquor store on property at 106 Rock Quarry Road. The applicant is GRP LLC and the agent is Mr. Patel. The property is located in landlot 62 of District 12 and it contains. [0:23:39, 0:23:52]: contains less it has less than one acre more or less. So I will now open the floor to you and you may come forward. Thank you. [0:24:06, 0:24:08]: [1467.2, 1487.2]: My name is Bill Tiersey, I'm a dream hall from Herman Fink Van Horn, and uh I am not a liquor license or zoning lawyer, but I am here on behalf of one of my colleagues who's in Ireland. So uh Lisa Morshauer uh traditionally uh works these kinds of cases and represents. [0:24:47, 0:25:07]: GRP, but I will do my best this evening to assist. What I have presented to you is just a brief description of what it is that GRP is looking to do, and that is to purchase a [0:25:07, 0:25:27]: Building at 106 Rock Quarry Road. Images of it in the materials that I presented, and it's currently subdivided into three separate stores, but the plan will be to remove those interior walls and have one. [0:25:27, 0:25:40]: One building that's about twelve thousand square feet of beer, wine, and spirits sales. Um GRP has uh [0:25:40, 0:26:00]: plans to renovate the front fascia and there's some renderings of what the building will look like once that's done in the materials. Right now, this again it's been used for three separate businesses. There's parking out front, but [0:26:00, 0:26:20]: But uh GRP also has under contract a lot next to the building that's reflected in those materials that can also be developed for additional parking. Um, this is gonna be a nice store with a [0:26:19, 0:26:39]: a pretty significant selection of various beers, wines, and spirits. It's not just going to be a little corner convenience store by any stretch of the imagination. You're going to be able to get things maybe that you couldn't get at other locations. [0:26:39, 0:26:59]: GRP has plans to hire on-site security and to have off-duty police officers on site as well as video cameras for surveillance and to maintain a [0:26:59, 0:27:05]: safe and well lit parking lot. Um this is [0:27:05, 0:27:25]: uh resulting from frankly the growth in the area has resulted in additional surveys uh and and uh that show that the population is such that a another store like this is warranted. There aren't other uh beer wine [0:27:25, 0:27:40]: And package stores in the area. And with that, I am happy to try and answer whatever questions you have. And if I can't answer them, I'll commit to get the answer and get back to you. [0:27:44, 0:27:46]: All right. [0:28:06, 0:28:26]: Thank you very much. And for those that are watching, if you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to staff and we will get the answer to you as soon as possible. The last and final case for this evening is a special use permit SP-2024-03. [0:28:26, 0:28:38]: This special use permit request is to allow a personal care home on property at 270 She SHIELS Road. The applicant and agent is Shauna John. [0:28:39, 0:28:50]: The property is located in landlot 70, District 12, and it contains 1.47 acres more or less. I will open the floor to Ms. John. [0:28:58, 0:29:05]: Even ladies and gentlemen. Um first and falls, I'm Mr. Paul Jazz. I will [0:29:10, 0:29:30]: I said good evening, ladies and gentlemen. First and foremost, I must apologize because I wasn't aware that I had to had to preserve have a presentation until a few hours before the meeting. Um my my time here today is to ask for special. [0:29:30, 0:29:36]: special use permit to allow a personal care home at uh at my property at two seventy Shields Road. [0:29:38, 0:29:58]: I am willing to put my best foot forward and to accommodate the community, be part of the community, as to one day when I myself can be part of this home that I am trying to prepare for other people. My plan is to. [0:29:58, 0:30:18]: Have at least six clients and myself and two other workers to help care for elderly people that is unable to take care of themselves and the family are not able to accommodate them. So if I am granted this permit, I am [0:30:18, 0:30:20]: I'm willing to do the best that I can. [0:30:21, 0:30:24]: This is not a this is not a job for mi. [0:30:25, 0:30:26]: This is a passion. [0:30:27, 0:30:29]: I have been committed to [0:30:30, 0:30:30]: Served. [0:30:31, 0:30:32]: Since I was [0:30:32, 0:30:34]: young enough to even remember. [0:30:36, 0:30:38]: I started with my grand aunt. [0:30:38, 0:30:42]: that I took care of with my grandmother. [0:30:43, 0:30:47]: And this is where I learned what what I really wanted to do. [0:30:48, 0:30:51]: And the older that I get, the more passionate I get about it. [0:30:53, 0:30:58]: And today I have a personal care home in Clearland County, which I can only accommodate three people. [0:30:59, 0:31:02]: So right now they I want to extend [0:31:02, 0:31:09]: and devote my full attention and give all my care to those that will appreciate it. [0:31:10, 0:31:18]: So one day that I can receive what I have put out there. So if you all will allow me. [0:31:19, 0:31:31]: I will put my best foot forward and present what I can in order to accommodate the community and myself. [0:31:33, 0:31:37]: Anybody have any question that if I can answer, I will. [0:31:41, 0:31:45]: Yeah, six, you are six people. [0:31:45, 0:31:56]: Six people and I will have yes, yes, sir, and have two other workers, myself included, that will be free of us taking care of six people. [0:32:01, 0:32:02]: You love it. [0:32:03, 0:32:04]: It's not just gonna be [0:32:06, 0:32:07]: Yes, yes. [0:32:13, 0:32:33]: Well, um people come in and the they have visiting hours, people come in. It is a smaller version as a person um as a nursing home, but does not require all the skills and um the magnitude of people and coming in and out. [0:32:33, 0:32:41]: So it is just a smaller version of that. So there will not be all that people coming in and out every day. No. [0:32:49, 0:32:50]: Anybody else? [0:32:52, 0:32:53]: Alrighty, well thank you. [0:33:13, 0:33:26]: Thank you, Ms. John. We do thank everyone for participating tonight. Um, we understand that others may have additional questions that you may want to ask one on one. You do have that autonomy to do so. [0:33:26, 0:33:46]: Um this meeting is allotted to 7 p.m. So what if you want to approach your applicant, you can do so at this time. And if you need questions or have questions for staff, please feel free to contact myself, Linda, or Gordon. We're here tonight. And what we'll do is just open the floor for you to sub [0:33:46, 0:33:48]: Speak to us one on one. [0:37:27, 0:37:35]: So if there are no other questions or any comments for your applicant, we can adjourn for tonight. [0:37:35, 0:37:50]: The next meeting will be held here, same location, September 19th. That will be the Planning Commission meeting. That meeting starts at 6:30 p.m. The Planning Commission makes a recommendation to the city council. It's not a final [0:37:50, 0:37:53]: vote, but it's just a recommendation. [0:37:53, 0:37:56]: On October fourteenth is the city council meeting [0:37:57, 0:37:59]: Also held in this room at six PM by [0:38:00, 0:38:02]: City council will make a final [0:38:02, 0:38:03]: Boat. [0:38:03, 0:38:06]: on whether your application will move forward. [0:38:06, 0:38:13]: So that concludes our meeting for tonight. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to us. Thank you. Have a good evening.
  • 2024-08-27 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session

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    --- title: Work Session date: 2024-08-27 source: 2024-08-27_Work_Session.wav --- [0:00:16, 0:00:28]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. And we had a little technical difficulties there, but uh uh let me call this uh council work session uh dated uh Tuesday August twenty seventh and I have uh six oh eight. [0:00:29, 0:00:32]: And the invocation this evening. [0:00:32, 0:00:35]: Is uh Miss Gamp, please. Stand if you can. [0:00:37, 0:00:52]: May we bow our heads. Heavenly Father, we come to you today as humbly as we know how. Lord, we ask that you watch over our first responders and watch over the families and friends of all that were affected in today's incident. [0:00:52, 0:00:58]: We also ask, Lord, that for your prayer we pray for clarity and for understanding. [0:00:59, 0:01:00]: For this council [0:01:00, 0:01:01]: For our mayor. [0:01:02, 0:01:04]: For the city council and for the city of Stockbridge. [0:01:05, 0:01:16]: We ask that you pray for our staff, our contractors, our administration, and their families as they go day to day and walk doing what's right and what's best for the city of Stockbridge. [0:01:16, 0:01:19]: And we ask that you pray, Lord, for our nation. [0:01:20, 0:01:21]: We pray. [0:01:21, 0:01:25]: That we are all humble, and we pray that we are all. [0:01:25, 0:01:27]: In love and in peace. [0:01:27, 0:01:29]: That we understand [0:01:29, 0:01:29]: That [0:01:30, 0:01:37]: Discrimination is not the answer, that we understand that freedom is the answer and it is what we stand for here. [0:01:38, 0:01:44]: Father God, we ask these and other blessings in your name, and we ask that we make the decisions that are in the best interest for our city. [0:01:45, 0:02:02]: And to do us right. In your name we pray. Amen. Amen. The pledge of allegiance here. I pledge allegiance to the flag. Of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible, the liberty and justice for all. [0:02:03, 0:02:05]: Madam Clerk, Roll Call, please. [0:02:07, 0:02:11]: Good evening. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Temberry. [0:02:12, 0:02:16]: Let the record reflect Mayor Pro Tem Berry is not in attendance. [0:02:17, 0:02:28]: Councilmember Alexander. Here. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a forum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. [0:02:29, 0:02:36]: Ms. Gand, I need uh um amendment to the agenda, please. Yes, Mayor, I'd like to motion to amend the agenda to add a budget amendment. [0:02:36, 0:02:41]: Um section for an for the amphitheater um following the consent agenda. [0:02:41, 0:02:42]: Zero second to the motion. [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: Second. Okay, all favor, please indicate. [0:02:46, 0:03:06]: Unanimous decision, thank you very much. Now, Council need an amendment to uh to approve the rest of the agenda for this evening, please. So moved. Is there a second? Sir. From Ms. Gantt to Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. And uh see Mr. Berry now join us. Thank you, sir. All right, so review of the minutes now. So review the August [0:03:06, 0:03:17]: 12th council meeting minutes please council and then uh the 30 changes or uh changes that please get that to the to the to the actual clerk and then we'll approve those at our next meeting. [0:03:18, 0:03:35]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? Mayor Ford, there are no public comments. Okay, so the first item up this evening will be a presentation for the Henry County Transportation Advisory Group update presented by Mr. Gonzalez. Please, sir. He is of course as you would know is our Stockbridge representative. Welcome, sir. [0:03:37, 0:03:38]: You maybe in the council. [0:03:40, 0:03:42]: Please speak into the mic when you talk, sir. [0:03:43, 0:03:44]: I actually put a note and I forgot. [0:03:45, 0:03:47]: Good evening, Mayor. Maybe good evening, Council. [0:03:48, 0:03:48]: Good evening. [0:03:53, 0:03:54]: Mm-hmm. [0:04:09, 0:04:16]: Uh thank you for the opportunity to be here to discuss our latest quarterly meeting we had uh a couple of months ago with the transportation advisory group. [0:04:19, 0:04:27]: Like to talk about three items that we discuss, uh the latest updates on roadway projects, uh transit service, and transportation planning. [0:04:30, 0:04:45]: Uh one of the major projects we wanted to just uh discuss uh is the Rock Quarry Road project. Uh unfortunately the bid date was moved from September of this year to January of next year, due some uh due to the environmental issues. [0:04:46, 0:04:48]: We'll keep monitoring that project. Uh [0:04:48, 0:04:57]: If I find any more information, I'll I'll I'll let the council mayor know. The next project, uh there was a notice to proceed to the contractor to be in work on the Western Parallel Connector. [0:04:58, 0:05:05]: Uh you should start seeing work uh soon. Uh and then the construction is uh for twenty twenty six. [0:05:07, 0:05:15]: Uh there hasn't been much updates on the interchange uh at I seventy five in Bethlehem. It's still uh [0:05:16, 0:05:36]: Is still uh tentative for construction on 20 uh for next year. Uh the for the two US uh 23 state state route forty-two widening projects, the the first one uh it's uh under construction and still uh tentative completion at 2027. Uh the other project uh [0:05:36, 0:05:45]: Uh 42 widening from McDonough to uh North Henry Boulevard is uh scheduled for construction 2030. [0:05:49, 0:06:09]: on the change gears here for the uh transit service. Um trying to from our last conversation we uh we had here, wanted to follow provide some information, some additional information to uh as this uh bus route service is being developed, there was a meeting held, public meeting held uh about a couple weeks ago [0:06:09, 0:06:18]: Um the presentation can be uh downloaded uh at the uh trans uh transit uh website. It can be downloaded. [0:06:21, 0:06:38]: I wanted to go over some of the slides that were presented on the once on the s uh presentation that was provided. Uh one of the main things is to provide connectivity to uh key key areas such as uh the city, uh connect to the express park and ride. Uh [0:06:39, 0:06:41]: Also connect to the P Bon Henry Hospital. [0:06:44, 0:06:53]: Another uh benefit of this bus route is to connect to uh shopping uh government services such as the city hall, residential developments. [0:06:57, 0:07:10]: Uh the stakeholder engagements of course would be the city, uh McDonough, uh the hospital, where we have uh a Chamber of Commerce, uh other stakeholders that will benefit from this route. [0:07:14, 0:07:20]: One of the items discuss is the current construction at the Piedmont Hospital, which will [0:07:20, 0:07:37]: Unfortunately temporary reroute, some of the uh the bus route through the hospital. There's there's still discussions on on how that's to be completed. One of the main issues they find is to to make that left turn at Raw Quarry Road at uh hospital drive. So they're trying to work out some of the uh details on that. [0:07:41, 0:07:51]: Uh one of the items that from our last meeting was discussed the hours operation. Right now the attentive uh hours of service will be six AM, six PM, Monday to Friday. [0:07:52, 0:07:53]: The proposed fare will be two hundred fifty. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: Per trip. [0:07:55, 0:08:07]: The scenarios for the frequency of how how often the the the buses will pass uh the bus stops will be dep depend on uh how many buses uh are obtained from the the county. [0:08:07, 0:08:16]: Uh if you start out at two buses it'd be a sixty minute up to if if they can uh acquire four buses, could be up to a thirty minute frequency. [0:08:20, 0:08:34]: Uh one of the benefits touted by having this bus route would be uh being a half mile uh to almost twenty-four thousand residents, uh close to nine thousand jobs within the half half mile of the stops. [0:08:34, 0:08:42]: Um and uh other services now with the microservice and uh again connecting to the uh express park and ride. [0:08:44, 0:08:58]: The funding sources for for this bus route currently uh the county received grant money for the for this route for three years, two million per year. The county is uh matching with up to four hundred thousand a year. [0:08:59, 0:08:59]: Uh [0:09:00, 0:09:03]: The fares will help pay offset some of the costs. [0:09:03, 0:09:08]: But after the three years, there'll be some discussion of how uh move forward with the bus routes. [0:09:13, 0:09:23]: The next step for these uh the bus route is to uh additional public uh meetings. There will be a presentation the with the board of commissioners. [0:09:24, 0:09:29]: It it's tense of uh September, but could be uh October, depends on some of the details are working out. [0:09:29, 0:09:34]: They're the the service should begin early twenty twenty five, in the early next year. [0:09:37, 0:09:57]: Uh another uh part of the transit uh initiative besides the bus route are the bus stops itself, uh the shelters. Uh there is additional money that was provided per grant to try to make some of these bus stops unique uh per location. There's been workshops to help uh with local artists. [0:09:57, 0:10:10]: to see how they can incorporate uh culture, uh different aspects uh depending on the the bus stop. For example, the amphitheater, themes of music, items like that. [0:10:13, 0:10:16]: And more information can be found on the transportation planning website. [0:10:19, 0:10:22]: uh switching gears to transportation planning [0:10:24, 0:10:27]: The uh there's continued crash trends in the in the county. There's a [0:10:27, 0:10:47]: There's uh grant money that we're would provide to try to find ways uh to reduce that uh with the goal of zero accident, zero uh deaths. Um the the county is soliciting help from the cities. Two out of the four cities are participating in this in this uh plan. Um they will reach out to the other two. [0:10:47, 0:10:50]: as this uh this plan progresses. [0:10:53, 0:11:02]: The update on the connected vehicle technology deployment, the devices are installed. There there's there's some upgrade issues. [0:11:02, 0:11:08]: Uh they're they're still working on those. Uh it's still not gonna be online probably this year, perhaps next year. [0:11:09, 0:11:29]: Uh the goal is to monitor the response before and after uh deployment of these devices uh to to help um the fire engines uh go through certain signal lights uh a little quicker. Uh an example uh that shows some savings are in Marietta, Georgia. They implemented some of this technology, save up to on average two minutes. [0:11:29, 0:11:31]: [695.4, 715.4]: Uh another initiative is the wayfinding plan. Um it's been completed, it was approved. This once the uh trails start coming online, you'll start seeing uh these type of signs. Uh there's actually the standards now that provide the font heights. Uh so each city will have a unique there. [0:11:55, 0:12:03]: they'll have the the the name within the trail within the city and then you'll under you'll be able to navigate depending on the the type of signs are installed. [0:12:06, 0:12:20]: Uh and provide an update on the SPLOS. It's it's for the fifth the referendum. There was a meeting with the cities and the county recently. Next step is for the approval of the list. [0:12:20, 0:12:25]: And uh more information on on the splash can be found on the splas website under information link. [0:12:28, 0:12:39]: Uh for more information on the information I provided you can found uh on the Hendry County website on the transportation planning. Um we also have the minutes on our tag meetings as well. [0:12:43, 0:12:46]: This it concludes my presentation. Any questions? [0:12:47, 0:12:55]: Yeah, um yeah I've I have a couple. Um could you expand a little bit more on on the on the trail aspect now? [0:12:56, 0:13:03]: And that and I should know this, I suppose. And the way the way finding plan? Right yeah, okay, there you go. Wayfinding plan. Yes. Can you expand on that? [0:13:03, 0:13:23]: Yes, uh and the plan that was developed it it's more to to to provide a uh a standard for the cities and the county. Um these the the the signs will be standard in each city, but we'll have of course if it's within city limits, we'll have city Stockbridge or McDonough. Um these the instead of having different fonts or different type, this will be more [0:13:23, 0:13:31]: uh uh uh uh consistent throughout the as we develop the tra trail parks, uh trails in the the county. [0:13:32, 0:13:33]: Nunca. [0:13:34, 0:13:42]: Uh do you you have an idea of what we what our way of finding signs look like right now, what we have designed or what we have had designed? [0:13:42, 0:14:02]: The one I'm not familiar with currently, I uh my iron standard's not really a standard. I guess c uh at least county wide not a standard. Um each city uh I'm uh I'm sure has its unique w okay, okay. I'm gonna answer your question. Well you're gonna answer the question. Yeah, this the county has their own wayfinding program. That's what he's talking about. He's not talking about our program. [0:14:02, 0:14:16]: He's talking about their program, which is gonna be countywide that they're doing in the unincorporated area. That's why the signage look different. But in when they're in the city limits, it will say Stockbridge or Locust Grove or whatever, but it will be their signage, not ours. [0:14:18, 0:14:28]: All right. But we also we also have our own way signing, but the what you're talking about specifically is the county wayfinding pro. They started on theirs after how we did. Okay. Yeah. [0:14:29, 0:14:42]: All right. That helps. Thank you. Um and then I had one other in reference to the you said uh f two two to four cities were only involved in a certain program here. Yes, uh the [0:14:42, 0:14:44]: The accident, the um [0:14:45, 0:14:47]: Comprehensive [0:14:52, 0:15:10]: Uh let me see. It was on a slide dealing with the Henry County Transit Service updates. You're talking about thirty s forty five and sixty minute frequencies. Yes, this was the trash trans yes, the comprehensive safety action plan. Right, you said t number of buses. Two buses I guess is a longer period of time for frequency. [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: Oh yeah, the transit, the the actual bus route, yes. Right. [0:15:13, 0:15:33]: Yes, depending on how many buses they can acquire. Uh right now they're between I spoke with the transit director. Depends between two to four buses. If if if they can acquire four buses with the with the funding they have, it'll reduce the time uh per stop uh 30 minutes. It'll pass each each uh bus stop. If it's only two buses, it'll be probably not. [0:15:33, 0:15:36]: hour to await on each stop. [0:15:37, 0:15:39]: Depending on traffic conditions. [0:15:41, 0:16:01]: And when's uh when should they know that? Uh the number of buses they would have? Some I I'd maybe I'll I would have to speak with the director. I know they're still tentative. He c he he couldn't speak much uh as they they're still developing the plans. Um right now they're the the cost of everything as you know is going up and the buses as as well. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: So the they've it'd be the [0:16:03, 0:16:07]: It'll depend on how much they can get with the the the money they have available. [0:16:08, 0:16:08]: Right. [0:16:09, 0:16:29]: Are any other council any council, any other comments? Go ahead, Mr. S. I wanna thank you, sir, because obviously how long does it take you to do it? You're a volunteer. Right. How long does it take you to put this together? I know, you're being modest, but really how long does it take it for you? A few hours. It's it's uh just it takes time to find information. [0:16:29, 0:16:49]: I wanna be able to uh provide as as I would wanna uh see the information. Um we I go uh attend the meetings, they're very straightforward. Uh the Sam uh is very the director of Henry County, very he's very uh thorough with the information, so I always want to be be able to provide as much and then in speaking with Sam [0:16:49, 0:17:06]: some of the the staff uh additional as as I think I'm the I think I'm the only one that presents with the uh with the staff so I wanna be able to have as much information for that's more localized for Stockbridge. It's usually general for for the county, but I won't I won't be able to have the information for for the city. [0:17:06, 0:17:26]: Right. I just want to tell you thank you, because I know you're doing this. You're a volunteer. You're doing a lot. So I certainly appreciate that. And certainly I want to make sure we're making the best use of your time. But certainly that first uh graphic that you pointed out that had uh Rock Quarry Road on it, Western Parallel Connector, those projects were [0:17:26, 0:17:46]: Right there, I would think would give the biggest uh information flood for us to be able to, because those are the ones that we want to make sure that we stay uh in tune with so that we can stay uh in essence. It's great news to hear that the Western Parallel Connector, which is a connector highway from Hudson. [0:17:46, 0:18:06]: Bridge Road to Jodico Road down to Jonesboro Road has had a they have the proceed, they have the notice to proceed already, which means they could get started tomorrow or the next day. But we certainly expect them to get started within the next month or two and then move that project forward. It sounds very [0:18:06, 0:18:26]: Very aggressive and that they're going to finish by 2026. But it's important for folks to understand that a segment of that road, as you know, has already been completed from Jodico Road down to Mount Olive. So the city was very proactive in being able to work and with and the developer contacting GDOT so that. [0:18:26, 0:18:46]: That they could build their portion of the road as they finish the Costco in there. So this is great. This is in my district, so I kind of kept up with it to make sure that I was very aware of what was going on. So, folks, if y'all are tuning in out there, understand we got a$54 million road project that's gonna start. [0:18:46, 0:19:06]: That's going to create a highway from Hudson Bridge Road down to Jodico to Jonesboro Road, a four-lane highway that will be an alternative right to I-75. And we've been able to do that because we worked together and we pushed as this council as well to make sure that that was happening. [0:19:06, 0:19:26]: On the other side of that, it was disappointing, as you said, for Rock Quarry Road, the bid for Rock Quarry Road to be, you know, put off once again. So certainly we want to make sure that we do everything possible to take the timetables tightly. So I've communicated to some of the [0:19:26, 0:19:46]: county officials that we we certainly want to see that timetable and right away speed it up. So whatever you can do to get that message to go back through the system that we certainly want to see them hold firm to that deadline uh in January. We don't want to see any more slides because I know all I think I can speak for all of us up [0:19:45, 0:20:04]: here that we want to see Rock Cory Road uh widening move or move along right now so that we can release some of this traffic. But I love what you did and thank you for the amount of time that you're doing because I can I see the work and I know the research that you have to do in order to do this. So thank you. [0:20:05, 0:20:25]: My pleasure. Let me follow up with that. Maybe I missed it. It says here uh it's delayed for environmental issues. Yes. Did you explain? I maybe I may have missed it. What are those issues? If I'm not mistaken, it's the documentation. It's it's a process, it's it's sometimes beyond it's not even G dot per se. It's federal. Uh it depends what they find. I I don't know the details exactly. [0:20:24, 0:20:37]: Exactly. I I just know they it's been going back and forth uh depending on on Run Creek, some of the uh mitigation. If I think they have some issues with mitigation. So it's taking time. All right, so be it. Miss Gand, did you have a question? [0:20:37, 0:20:41]: No. I just wanna thank you for the presentation. [0:20:41, 0:20:44]: Anybody any other council members? No question. [0:20:44, 0:20:54]: Same, I just wanna thank you again for putting this together and and again I echo the concerns'cause my my uh heart and my uh attention focus is definitely on the rock cord project. [0:20:54, 0:20:57]: And so, uh, like has already been stated, anything that we can do [0:20:58, 0:21:04]: to uh make sure that we hold fast to the timeline would be greatly, greatly appreciated. So any extra push [0:21:04, 0:21:07]: You could do and we can do. Oh, we would appreciate it. Well. [0:21:08, 0:21:28]: Mm-hmm. Okay, no other questions and thank you, Mr. Gonsal. I appreciate it. Pleasure. Right. Thank you for all your hard work without a doubt. All right. Discussion is next. Enterprise fleet lease uh discussion. And we have uh Tejah Broderick, is that how you pronounce your name, sir? Taj. Tajai is going to come forward and uh talk with us and [0:21:28, 0:21:32]: And uh I guess if Mr Aaron, you're gonna tag team this as well? [0:21:32, 0:21:52]: No, sir. I just was gonna introduce him. Oh, I'm sorry. He's good right now. Mr. Bodri has been working with the police department and public works to look at different options for procuring vehicles for the city. And one of the things we've discussed is about the electric vehicles. So he will give us a presentation tonight that accomplis accomplished not only vehicles for the [0:21:52, 0:21:56]: police department, public works, but also the city as a whole. [0:21:58, 0:22:01]: Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Good evening. Evening to you as well. [0:22:03, 0:22:23]: So I believe you all have this here. As Mr. Aaron just stated, I've been working with City of Stockbridge here since roughly about April of this year. And together what we've been able to do is identify a plan that's gonna help the city replace their vehicles. So right now the current age of the vehicles in the city of Stockbridge is negatively impacting the overall budget. [0:22:23, 0:22:43]: Budget of the City of Stockbridge. So what I'm looking to do and what I've done is identified a right vehicle cycle to go ahead and present a conservative savings of roughly$221,000 over the course of 10 years for the City of Stockbridge. And that would be done by replacing the older vehicles with newer vehicles. So also [0:22:43, 0:23:03]: So with that, by replacing your older vehicles with newer vehicles, that improves the safety of the vehicles that you you have now. Because as we know, the older vehicles um they don't have they don't measure up to the safety standards of newer vehicles today. Uh we'll be doing this by piggybacking off of the source well agreement. So uh be I want you everyone to be clear that this is not a [0:23:03, 0:23:23]: First time program. This is something that's been vetted out through the state of Georgia, something that's been vetted out across the country, and you guys would not be the first people, first city or county to take part of this program. So a few things I do want to touch on because those are some things that typically come out with questions is the leasing part, the way we sell. [0:23:23, 0:23:43]: vehicles and then I'll go ahead and touch in the electric vehicle aspect as well. So the lease of what enterprise offers, whenever anyone hears the word lease, they s sometimes think of your traditional dealership lease where you pay your vehicle down to a zero dollar balance at the end of the vehicle at the end of that term, um you just basically turn your vehicle in. Um you get charged [0:23:42, 0:24:02]: Mileage penalties, you get charged wearing chair penalties. Uh here with Enterprise, what we have is a called an open-ended lease. So this open-ended lease, to give you an example, keep things pretty simple. If we were to take a$20,000 vehicle, we would what we do is we identify every digital balance. So we take a$20,000 vehicle and we pay this vehicle down to$5,000. [0:24:02, 0:24:22]: Over the course of that term, you're only financing$15,000. So as you multiply that off over the course of the 101 vehicles that you guys have, that's just um cost savings in that aspect of itself. At the end of this term, what we do is we then sell that vehicle for you. So we sell that vehicle, say, for$10,000. You guys satisfy the$5,000 residual, and then that$5,000 [0:24:22, 0:24:41]: goes back to the city of Stockbridge and you have the option of using that those funds however you like. So uh typically what we've been saying is people will transfer those funds back to the next to the new vehicle and what that's gonna ultimately do is just lower your monthly payments for you guys. So that one goal there is to continue lowering your payments to operate these vehicles because [0:24:42, 0:24:55]: You guys are city, you guys have the best buy in the world to purchase vehicles, but what we're not doing is we're not maximizing the opportunity with the vehicle by holding on to the vehicle for over four or five years or before it gets to a hundred thousand miles. [0:24:55, 0:25:15]: The next piece is the way we sell our vehicles. Um, the way we sell our vehicles is really the true value of the program. Right now, today you hold on to your vehicles for say 10 years, you sell the vehicles on govdeals.com or maybe at an auction. What we're going to do is we're going to have an actual team that sells these vehicles for you. We hand sell all of our vehicles. Um [0:25:15, 0:25:35]: It's not me personally that sells the vehicles, it's a separate team that's solely graded on how well they can sell the vehicles above Black Book average. So that's gonna be something similar to Kelly Blue Book, but we call it commercial Black Book. So this team is graded on how well they can sell above that average, and typically we are about 10 to 12 percent higher than Black Book Average when we sell our. [0:25:35, 0:25:41]: vehicles. Right. So that there is just gonna be the next piece of the funds that go back to you guys as well. [0:25:42, 0:26:02]: Uh the last thing I want to touch on is really just gonna be the electric vehicle part that was that was mentioned to me a couple times. So Enterprise has over the last two years has been, I guess, a pioneer for the electric vehicle market. Um recently we've partnered with the city of South Pasadena that's out in California. We've completely electrified their police department and then also I'm pretty sure you've [0:26:01, 0:26:20]: A lot of people have seen the commercials with dominoes, all of the electric vehicles with dominoes, those are all provided through enterprise fleet management. So that's roughly about 800 vehicles or so as of today. At this point, I kept this pretty high level, but I wouldn't really like to open it up to you guys to ask me some questions about the program and get a better understanding of it. [0:26:21, 0:26:41]: I would imagine that thank you for the presentation, but I would imagine that we decided to do this and depending on how many vehicles we would want would also kind of drive how many different uh stations we would have to get installed as well. But what's the percentage or is there a percentage of stations per so many cars or or is it one on one? No, that's completely up to ratio I should say. [0:26:41, 0:26:41]: [1601.6, 1621.6]: Yeah, that's completely up to the city. We've seen it done a couple different ways to where you may have charges placed just for the city itself. Then we've seen some cities put charges in that they've opened up to the public. So that's something that the city itself determines. We do work with a um charger provider called Charge Point that comes out and installs these charges for you, but there's multiple levels of chargers. So you have level one, twos, and three. [0:27:01, 0:27:04]: threes, but that's all depending on how you guys like to set that up. [0:27:05, 0:27:25]: So initially you don't is you don't have a particular ratio that you d you kind of kind of look at giving or s or talking to us about a ratio of charges per how many vehicles that we have. It's really just up to the customer, I suppose. Exactly. We don't necessarily provide the chargers, we just provide the vehicles. So the charge point itself, I would provide you guys with a representation. [0:27:24, 0:27:43]: representative from Charge Point and they will come out and pretty much customize a plan for you when it comes to your chargers. Because here you may set up some chargers here at City Hall, then you might have some charges at the police department. Um it's you can have your charges pretty much set up anywhere. And there's like I said, there's levels to the charges that you can have installed. All right. I thank you. Council, any questions? [0:27:43, 0:27:44]: Okay, Ms. Elsen? [0:27:45, 0:27:50]: So in terms of the you've been with the program how l you've been with the program, I'm sorry, how long? [0:27:50, 0:28:10]: I've been with Enterprise for eight years. Eight years. So in general, you looking at these uh the new EV rollout. So in general, what would you say? Let's say you got these cities on here, Bainbridge, Roswell. How many charging stations do they generally have for their fleet or do or is there like a a a number that you might be [0:28:10, 0:28:19]: I Roswell has some. I'm not exactly sure how many stations they have. Um but they do have some electric vehicles that they are working with. [0:28:20, 0:28:40]: Okay, so they have well what you've seen in terms of what the setup you've seen, you seen different distributions at different areas for right now. We got ten po ten cords outside here already set up. Okay. So I'm sure the provider will be able to come in a understanding that those charge points right there are not the very highest. [0:28:39, 0:28:59]: Grade, which is the points for the uh the top charger, which is the rapid charger. And certainly we would want to observe certain invest in some of those uh in terms of making sure that we had it available. So the charge points, as you've seen in the past, you said some of them would be just kind of isolated to city. [0:28:59, 0:29:05]: city usage and then some jurisdictions have actually put them out there in public locations and shared them. [0:29:05, 0:29:06]: Yes. [0:29:06, 0:29:26]: Uh that's basically so I haven't seen the shared portion done here in the state of Georgia. I've I've known of it being done. But essentially what they do is it's like a profit sharing to where they they set it up in a general location that it's a city-owned location, but people have access to them. So there's different charges that you guys have seen where you can put your phone to the to the pavement system. [0:29:26, 0:29:31]: And you can be charged that way. Um that's what I've been seeing done. When I say sharing, that's what I've basically seen done before. [0:29:32, 0:29:48]: Right, and the price point or the price point's pretty comfortable at this point. I understand the price points on these E V heads have been going down. So what is the price point pretty uh is it getting closer or or uh in that area to further transition or savings kind of make up the difference? [0:29:49, 0:29:51]: Pricing for EVs that's [0:29:51, 0:30:11]: EV EV took a turn maybe I'll say maybe about a year and a half ago. EV was really on the high up, and then everyone kind of started transitioning toward the hybrid models just because of the infrastructure and everything. So the cost of EVs, I wouldn't say they've fluctuated too much or made a great significant change to the betterment of to making it a lower cost to operate an EV. [0:30:11, 0:30:31]: EV, but I will say that the EV market itself did take a turn maybe like I said about a year and a half ago because everyone was all focused on EVs and then I think we all realized that we didn't just didn't have the infrastructure to change everything to EV all at one time. So what I have been seeing a lot more is just the hybrid, plug-in hybrids more than uh EVs. [0:30:31, 0:30:51]: So in terms of you, um and the overall um build up of the system, you said there was uh uh you said California, someone had actually I know Savannah had invested very heavily, so you had uh witnessed I guess a city in California had totally changed into [0:30:51, 0:31:11]: Uh the E V m how how did that go? Yep, so it's the same exact program. The E V doesn't change the the process of the program. This that's just the vehicle itself. But essentially what they did was they replaced all of their patrol vehicles to the Mom Ford Mach E's and that's th that's their new patrol vehicles now. So um the Mach E's and [0:31:11, 0:31:16]: And they also have the Ford interceptors as well, but those haven't come out as E V just yet. [0:31:16, 0:31:36]: They're having some more trucks. They're manufacturers are making a lot more EV vehicles available today. That's what I I have seen. Um as far as coming from Chevy to Ford, there are more vehicles out that are E V available. Okay, now as far as your cost us for the EV model and then EV standard model. So [0:31:36, 0:31:41]: So how does that work? Is it complicated? Is it same? Is it different? [0:31:41, 0:31:49]: So I don't really I don't control the price of the vehicle. That's typ typically on the that's solely on the manufacturer. We can go out to any manufacturer that you like. So that's [0:31:50, 0:32:10]: the manufacturer decides pricing on vehicle. I don't determine pricing and your price doesn't change because you're getting the vehicle through enterprise. You don't have you don't have like a standard fleet of vehicle. You just work with pretty much anybody that we choose. So you don't have like well like some comp somebody deal with four or somebody deal with shit. You just basically use whomever we choose. [0:32:10, 0:32:30]: Right. So what after my part here, my part is to really identify a plan with the city. After I step away and you identify this plan, you guys are assigned a client strategy manager that works with you four to five times out the year. And what they'll do is they'll identify exactly what your goals are. So if you're saying, hey, we're looking for a pursuit vehicle or we're just looking for a regular admin vehicle, we're going to run an analysis [0:32:30, 0:32:50]: Analysis based off the amount of miles that you do per year, and we're gonna find the lowest cent per mile vehicle to operate at that time. So whether that's a Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Nissan, it has we have no kind of play in the game here. What we are gonna do is go directly to the manufacturer and order the vehicle directly from the manufacturer and provide it to you. So at Enterprise, in just in Atlanta, we have [0:32:50, 0:32:58]: We have over 20,000 vehicles that are leased out to clients, but we don't physically hold these vehicles like on a lot or anything. We order all of our vehicles. [0:32:58, 0:33:18]: So pretty much uh what you're saying uh in this instance is that we would be able to set up the program tailored to us, and there's a lot of data available on which vehicle to choose, and the next step would be there will be somebody that would come to work with us on the type of vehicles that we want, and then they have they would they will be able to [0:33:18, 0:33:38]: go through the whole gambit. They're not locked down to one manufacturer. They can choose whatever vehicle that they want, which is the best available. Exactly. I've seen cities and counties that have Fords, GMs, Dodge. Sometimes you just they want to stay away from Ford or you want to stick with Chevy. And it has no no preference of us. What we're here to solely do is just provide you the lowest [0:33:38, 0:33:44]: for my um recommendation for you. Okay, thank you. Council go ahead, Miss Barber. [0:33:45, 0:33:52]: Okay, so you did mention you all do offer pursuit vehicles. Oh yes. Okay. We offer any vehicle that's made. [0:33:52, 0:33:55]: Okay. I'm curious to know what the impact [0:33:55, 0:34:09]: um to our police department if we should approve this program. Um I don't know a whole lot about leasing other than what you just explained. Um I imagine. Our [0:34:10, 0:34:12]: Current fleet of [0:34:12, 0:34:14]: Pursuit vehicles. [0:34:14, 0:34:20]: Can be a little low in mileage at this point. We're only two years, two and a half years. [0:34:21, 0:34:23]: Into having our police department. [0:34:23, 0:34:26]: So if we were to convert or [0:34:26, 0:34:31]: work with you all. I'm just curious to know what that impact would look like. [0:34:31, 0:34:34]: As far as cost on mileage. [0:34:35, 0:34:38]: Replacement vehicles, new vehicles. [0:34:38, 0:34:40]: I don't know that, but [0:34:40, 0:34:43]: Yeah. So you're saying how much does it cost to replace a vehicle? [0:34:43, 0:35:03]: Is that what you're asking me? Yes, to replace a pursuit vehicle. Yeah, great question. So right now, majority of the police fleet is between 2018 and 2022. So, like you said, you guys just replaced the vehicles a lot, majority of your vehicles last year. So as it says here, only 25% of the vehicles are over 10 years at the moment. So when it comes to your police department, we were on [0:35:03, 0:35:23]: only focusing on uh so fort mock E's which are electric vehicles and then Ford Expeditions which are going to be more so I believe for the captain but as far as your pursuit vehicles we didn't have it we don't have any plans at the moment to replace any of your pursuit vehicles this year. Oh okay. Okay. Thank you. Yeah and then the model that you guys are seeing this model is done every year so when we meet [0:35:23, 0:35:39]: with you when that client strategy manager meets with you those four to five times a year, they're looking to identify what it is your budget is that for that year to that way you can stay inside of that budget. So this model here that you see, the tenure model, is going to be uh revamped every year for you. That way we can make sure we stay inside of that budget for you. [0:35:40, 0:35:42]: Right. Go ahead, Mr. Bear. [0:35:42, 0:35:48]: That's that's where my question lies. It's over the uh the ten year model and I see y your numbers show that there's a uh [0:35:48, 0:36:08]: A savings of two hundred and twenty one thousand roughly in ten years. Is that a a gradual compound of savings that we'll see progress over time or is that a a hard line twenty two K per year that we will see in savings and uh as compared to what our current model is now? So it doesn't [0:36:09, 0:36:29]: Compared to our budget, it doesn't seem like a robust amount of savings when you look at it annually. So I want you to elaborate on that. What does that 221 K in 10 years look like compounded over time? Yeah. So the model, like I said, if the model is really just for conceptual purposes. At the end of the day, we're recommending that you replace 22 vehicles this first year. [0:36:29, 0:36:49]: Based off the age of the fleet and the mileage on the fleet. So that means that we've identified 22 vehicles to be over 10 years old or have over 100,000 miles on them. When you guys, when I met with uh Mr. Aaron, police chief, they've all identified the certain amount of vehicles that they want to replace. So right now, that's closer to the number of 16 to 17 vehicles. [0:36:49, 0:37:09]: So this number can change based off of how many vehicles you decide to replace. The key thing with this right here is that by replacing these older vehicles, we're gonna reduce that maintenance cost and we're gonna reduce the fuel cost. And that's the m that's the highest cost when it comes to operating any fleet. So how will we perceive that? Like what does the main like what will we see in maintenance savings? Because that I guess that's the part [0:37:09, 0:37:29]: That's the rub that I'm really missing because over the life of the 221, it it it's not really moving. That's that number ain't moving me over 10 years. But I do wanted to see something statistically or on paper what it looks like, what maintenance savings would be uh going to a more controlled newer vehicle. [0:37:29, 0:37:30]: Yeah. [0:37:30, 0:37:50]: Changing them in and out. Yeah. What what what will we see? Like what is our and I guess you probably can't answer that yourself. That's probably some internal stuff that we need to discuss about it. But I really would like to see comparatively what our internal maintenance on existing vehicles will look like under the current plan versus what it will look like under this proposed plan. [0:37:50, 0:37:57]: plan to to really conceptualize because I don't that's the rub that I need to see on this presentation today. [0:37:58, 0:38:18]: Yeah. So the conceptual purposes, we're saying that if we replace twenty-two vehicles, that's gonna reduce your maintenance cost from one hundred twenty-six thousand to one hundred and ten thousand. And that's simply because the those older vehicles, you're paying right now twenty-five cents per mile to maintain those vehicles. Whereas by replacing those vehicles, now you're simply just doing oil changes on those vehicles. [0:38:18, 0:38:31]: vehicle. So it would have to be like you said, we would have to get vehicle per vehicle and really see exactly what you guys are paying per vehicle. So we won't have to do the tires like we still have to do now. We're only doing oil changes. This plan will eliminate us [0:38:31, 0:38:33]: Flat tires, it eliminates [0:38:33, 0:38:53]: Uh belt it'll eliminate all of our maintenance. I can't say about flat tires, but here uh'cause I can't control a flat tire if you get a flat tire. That's what I was asking. Okay. But what it this will prevent is because on your public works vehicles, we're es estimating those vehicles do nine thousand thine thousand miles a year. We have those vehicles right now proposed. [0:38:53, 0:39:04]: So that's thirty six thousand miles. You don't need new tires at thirty six thousand miles. So that answers your question, that just eliminated you from uh replacing mileages. What's that say it again? [0:39:05, 0:39:25]: It's hiring a driver. Well, you're right, you're right. But um yes, so by replacing that vehicle, you are now restricted just paying your oil changes and your preventative maintenance. Also, with this, your outside of your pursuit vehicles, just the vehicles that are not in pursuit, those vehicles are on a [0:39:25, 0:39:45]: plan to where they're to set fix fixed cost for the life of the vehicle. I mean up to a hundred thousand miles. So that cost is already including your oil changes, any preventative maintenance, non preventative maintenance, all of that is all calculated into this cost already. So what this allows your drivers to do is simply drive the vehicle and when they take the vehicle to the dealership or they take the vehicle to [0:39:44, 0:39:48]: [2388.9, 2408.9]: Saying what they need done to the vehicle. Our team is handling all the maintenance. So we have a National Service Department that oversees this maintenance program that will communicate back and forth with these shops, letting them know what needs to be done on the vehicle. Today, if you guys take a vehicle to a dealership to get an oil change, it's a very high chance you go and get an oil change and get an avant care cabin air filter as well. [0:40:08, 0:40:28]: Well, maybe some other things. Well, our team is going to make sure that, well, hey, this vehicle only has thirty thousand miles on it. Why would we be replacing cabinet air filter right now? That's where you're going to start seeing savings because at that at this point, no one's really monitoring the maintenance that's being done. We're simply taking the vehicles to a repair location, we're asking for a service to be done, and we're putting our faith into this shop that we're getting the vehicles. [0:40:28, 0:40:30]: vehic the right things done to the vehicle. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: Should be. Right. [0:40:34, 0:40:35]: Any other questions for the council? [0:40:36, 0:40:56]: Well, the E V doesn't have a oil change. Right. Right or any of those auxiliary things. Doesn't even have a transmission, I understand. So those things so the I guess uh the savings would be a little bit more in terms of that'cause there's not those uh initial costs built into that. And then again, uh any vehicle might [0:40:56, 0:41:08]: most vehicles I guess uh whether it's uh no matter what it is would be still up under warranty up at that point up until forty thousand thirty six thousand forty thousand miles. Yes. Yes. All right, thank you. [0:41:09, 0:41:11]: Once again another question from the council. [0:41:12, 0:41:13]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:41:15, 0:41:18]: Thank you, sir, for the presentation. Um [0:41:19, 0:41:33]: I I wanted to speak to the fuel cost saving and I guess we all understand that a well maintained car or a newer car [0:41:34, 0:41:42]: should get better knowledge. Now we know within the police department, um, and I know we have some officers here. [0:41:43, 0:41:48]: Those cars run all the time. I I don't know within a day's time. [0:41:49, 0:41:51]: I don't know when a police car is turned off. [0:41:52, 0:41:54]: And so we know that uh [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: Consumption is hard. [0:41:57, 0:41:59]: Um so [0:41:59, 0:42:00]: And [0:42:00, 0:42:04]: And I I guess I want to get to your study, but I guess we can all assume [0:42:05, 0:42:08]: as kids growing up tinkering with cars and [0:42:09, 0:42:12]: And the consumption of gas and I guess it's it's a given. [0:42:13, 0:42:18]: that a well maintained car is going to burn less gas. [0:42:20, 0:42:22]: Is i I mean w when you say here that [0:42:23, 0:42:28]: As a result of this program, uh the city of Stockbridge will will reduce [0:42:29, 0:42:31]: Fruit cost by seventy two percent. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: So I'm assuming and you can correct me if I'm right or wrong, but [0:42:35, 0:42:45]: Uh, I'm assuming that because of these cars are well maintained and we're s switching them out before they actually the age wise, that these cars are going to operate. [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: more efficient. [0:42:48, 0:42:49]: Thereby [0:42:49, 0:42:51]: Uh consuming [0:42:51, 0:42:52]: Less fuel. [0:42:54, 0:43:13]: That's correct. So newer vehicles every year uh man vehicle manufacturers by Cafe are required to improve their fuel economy miles per gallon every year. So if we're comparing a two thousand twenty four to a two thousand twenty, it can be the same vehicle, but the two thousand twenty four is gonna receive better fuel economy than the two thousand twenty. That's just off [0:43:13, 0:43:16]: Right, and and that's important for me. Um [0:43:17, 0:43:30]: We we we really haven't had this discussion with the Stybridge Police Department, but I just know that in these offices and we won't get into that now, but um I don't know when cars are turned off. [0:43:31, 0:43:32]: Um and I'm sure that [0:43:33, 0:43:37]: From a budgetary standpoint in the city of Stargrid. [0:43:38, 0:43:39]: Gas consumption. [0:43:40, 0:43:41]: Is really hard. [0:43:41, 0:43:45]: And so anything that we could do as a savings [0:43:46, 0:43:48]: Even in that regard, I think [0:43:48, 0:43:54]: that's really impactful uh f for the city if this program [0:43:55, 0:43:57]: Impact jest dat alone. [0:43:57, 0:44:04]: That's gonna be a big saving right there, just in fuel consumption. And I don't know if anybody sort of [0:44:05, 0:44:20]: dealt deep into that. And and the question that I'm going to ask later, and we just had a budget retreat, but the question that I'm going to ask later about um the police department, I like to just know those numbers. [0:44:20, 0:44:24]: as far as gas consumption presently with the police department. [0:44:25, 0:44:26]: And and I'm assuming that [0:44:27, 0:44:29]: In this program [0:44:29, 0:44:33]: that sit of Styber will have a tremendous saving. [0:44:34, 0:44:37]: Simply because we are the cause of better maintained. [0:44:38, 0:44:39]: Which was sort of [0:44:40, 0:44:42]: impact the gas consumption [0:44:43, 0:44:48]: uh in the city and I'm just curious since you mentioned that here, I'm just curious as to [0:44:48, 0:44:56]: what that actual saving actually look like in real dollars. But I I'll get into the police department with that. Thank you, sir. [0:44:57, 0:44:58]: What's again another question for the council? [0:44:59, 0:45:14]: All right, so this was a discussion, so a discussion process in this aspect to give us information and I guess food for thought. And uh I'd imagine we'll have further discussions internally on how we wanna proceed. Okay. All right, thank you. Thank you, sir, for your time and effort. [0:45:15, 0:45:35]: Consent agenda. Uh Council Consideration approved the third renewal of the City of Stockbridge on call sidewalk replacement and repairs contract number two zero two one-eight with DAF concrete incorporated amount of three hundred thousand oh excuse me at$300,000. The funding source is from SPLOSS and Department Budgeted Funds. [0:45:35, 0:45:42]: And so it's a consent agenda. I didn't know whether or not uh Mr. Aaron and anybody else needed to add anything to this or not. [0:45:43, 0:46:03]: And if not, um Mayor Farrell I do have a question though. All right, what's your question? And I don't know if this is gonna make it move from the consent, but I noticed that from the 2022 contract award, the amount was 250,000 and I know this renewal is for 300,000. [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: [2764.7, 2766.6]: So I just wanted to know why the difference. [0:46:11, 0:46:12]: I'm sorry. [0:46:13, 0:46:15]: It'd have to come off the consent agenda and have further discussion. [0:46:17, 0:46:23]: All right. So on that note, Council, I need a motion to take it off the consent agenda so we can have a discussion about this. So moved. Is there a second? [0:46:24, 0:46:32]: Second. Mr Mr. Alzheimer's second. All in favor, please indicate? Unanimous decision. Okay. What's off the consent agenda, Mr. Heron, please. [0:46:32, 0:46:51]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. And one of the reason wh the reason why we increased it was to account for the annexed areas into the city. The previous two hundred and fifty thousand dollars was just based on the original city limits of stock bridge. But since we increased the city limits, we had to increase the the sidewalk repair contract. [0:46:53, 0:47:12]: Let me answer a question. So y I sent you the message about the median on uh Hudson Bridge. That sidewalk is buckled right there. So that'll be right in right in this wheelhouse right here, right? Yes, sir. We are developing our current list of repair projects. Falcon is doing that for so we'll have something ready for DAF to go in the next couple of weeks. [0:47:12, 0:47:25]: Thank you. Any other questions? All right, then I need a motion to accept this proposal. Okay, well Miss Barber is a second. Second. Mr. Hells has a second. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you, Ms. Aaron. [0:47:25, 0:47:33]: Thank you, sir. Okay, what we have next, of course, is we added to the agenda a budget amendment involving the amphitheater. Mr. Harold Young, our general manager, sir. You're up. [0:47:36, 0:47:46]: Or the finance department, whatever you're gonna tag team this, I guess. And I believe what it is, uh ladies and gentlemen, counsel you have information in a folder in front of you and involving this presentation. [0:47:53, 0:48:13]: Hello. Can y'all hear me? Is it into the mic, please? Okay. So Mr. Young and I have come before you guys to present a budget adjustment or budget transfer for the amount of five hundred thousand dollars, which is going to cover the cost of some of the remaining shows. We had to reschedule Charlie Wilson and Monica. [0:48:13, 0:48:18]: and company due to weather and there's been a no. [0:48:19, 0:48:27]: And asked to reschedule those shows. So we're just looking to get some additional funds that will cover the expenses of those shows. [0:48:27, 0:48:38]: And you I I think the original comment said for five hundred thousand dollars? Yes, sir. Okay. All right. A council any questions thus far? You wanna add anything? Miss Barber, go ahead please. [0:48:39, 0:48:40]: Okay, this is um [0:48:42, 0:48:47]: So you you mentioned that a concert was rescheduled. [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: Yes, ma'am. [0:48:49, 0:48:52]: This is to pay for the rescheduled show. [0:48:53, 0:48:55]: So going forward [0:48:55, 0:48:57]: We will negotiate those terms. [0:48:58, 0:49:00]: regarding rescheduling. [0:49:00, 0:49:04]: For those force of nature kind of issues. [0:49:07, 0:49:15]: Ma may I state that there's actually two concerts that had were rained out that had to be rescheduled. Not one but two. So my c my question again is [0:49:15, 0:49:16]: Going forward. [0:49:16, 0:49:17]: You'll be [0:49:18, 0:49:19]: Negotiating. [0:49:19, 0:49:21]: Those terms. [0:49:21, 0:49:23]: In the event there are [0:49:24, 0:49:29]: issues with nature and whatever else that is beyond our control. [0:49:29, 0:49:43]: That is correct. Um so as you understand that these uh even the rescheduled concerts have been renegotiated. Uh so all of them are not p what that means is we're not paying all of the fees. [0:49:43, 0:49:46]: for one one of the shows. [0:49:46, 0:49:48]: Just a percentage amount of what they're asking. [0:49:49, 0:50:07]: So and then we actually for the Charlie Wilson show we actually had to add another artist on that show as opposed it was Robin Thick, which we're not bringing back. We're bringing Eric Bennet, which is a lot lower in cost. Eric Dabar, excuse me. El Dabar, excuse me. Eric Bennet, Jesus. [0:50:07, 0:50:12]: In terms of the language that we discussed regarding acts of nature. [0:50:13, 0:50:16]: Yes. Yes. Going forward. Yes, that's correct. [0:50:17, 0:50:24]: will make sure that that issue is addressed before we sign any writer agreements. [0:50:24, 0:50:25]: Yes. [0:50:25, 0:50:26]: Thank you, Samuel. [0:50:28, 0:50:31]: Any other questions for uh our general manager and our treasurer? [0:50:31, 0:50:33]: Mayor Ford. Yes sir. Um [0:50:35, 0:50:39]: Mr. Young, uh Ms. Gaines, thank you all. Um [0:50:39, 0:50:59]: I just wanted to confirm and and I remember reading somewhere where it did state that the funding source for the budget amendment that once these concerts are over, those funds would be uh what's the word? Um [0:50:59, 0:51:13]: um place back in allocated back in funded back in. And I just wanted just that to be known that, you know, those funds will actually go back to the original funding source. That is correct. Thank you. [0:51:15, 0:51:29]: Mm-hmm. Okay, if if no other no other questions then a motion to accept this I I haven't go ahead, please. Um Mr. Young, is that the total amount I'm looking at the difference in the amount here. Is that the total amount that's needed? [0:51:30, 0:51:30]: Is that the [0:51:31, 0:51:38]: Five hundred thousand for the budget amendment or how for now to get those concerts up and running for now, yes. [0:51:39, 0:51:43]: Is that in addition to the Lele concert? [0:51:44, 0:51:45]: That is correct. [0:51:45, 0:51:56]: Okay. And so the breakdown right now plus the additional property sale revenue is that going to [0:51:57, 0:51:58]: Is that what we're showing? [0:51:59, 0:52:03]: That's gonna be the totality of what we're we're needing. So you're saying for now. [0:52:04, 0:52:05]: But my concern is [0:52:06, 0:52:12]: What th are you thinking that you'll have to come back again this year for another amendment, or is it something that we need to look into? [0:52:12, 0:52:31]: I hope not, but based on where we are financially, speaking to the uh interim treasurer, that's what I can we can maneuver five hundred thousand. So for now, that's what Okay. Um yes. All right, thank you. No further questions for me. [0:52:31, 0:52:40]: All right, so no further questions in the motion to accept this proposal, please. So move. So Mr. Alexander, second, Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. [0:52:40, 0:52:44]: It's announced decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you all. [0:52:46, 0:53:06]: Okay, so now we have new business. Uh council consideration to approve the fourth renewal option. RFP request for proposal 20 excuse me 2015-02. Sanitation Collection Service Contract with Waste Industries South Atlanta LLC GFL environment [0:53:06, 0:53:26]: Environmental formerly waste industries is amount to one million eight hundred thousand dollars funding source sanitation department budget. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. Public Works is coming before you tonight to ask you to approve the renewal of the sanitation collection contract with GFL. They've been a good partner with the city. They're currently through June. [0:53:26, 0:53:46]: Of 2024 have a 99.75% collection efficiency. And also they're very instrumental in the smooth transition of adding the annexed residents onto the city sanitation services. So we're asking that you approve the fourth renewal. The the prices we're currently receiving right now. [0:53:46, 0:54:06]: are very good. We're residents paying$22 a month. And uh we went out and looked at other surrounding cities and see what their sanitation services are and costs. It's included in your package. And the most comparable to us was Forest Park and they charge$26.81 per month. [0:54:06, 0:54:20]: And then the next was like the city of Noonan, which is$33.34 per month. And also the city of McDonald just recently awarded a contract to Republic and they're paying$24.64 per month. [0:54:20, 0:54:35]: But you have to make an appointment to get yard waste picked up with them and you also have to drop your bulk waste off, they don't pick it up. So I think we're getting a good deal with what we're getting with GfL and we're just asking that you'll renew the contract for the fourth term. [0:54:36, 0:54:56]: Questions, counsel. Uh Ms. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Uh Mr. Aaron, thank you so much. I I just missed that tail in about bulk pickup. Would you just repeat that? I said with like the city of McDonald, if their residents have bulk waste to get rid of, they have to take it to the collection center themselves versus the uh vendor coming by their [0:54:56, 0:55:16]: residents to pick it up. Just just c make reservation. They have to take it themselves. I'm talking about stock bridge. Yeah and stock bridge, yes sir. If you have boatways pick up you have to schedule it 24 hours before your day of collection and you can put out up to three items per week. And and and the reason I want to mention that because it it appears that a lot of [0:55:16, 0:55:36]: Of homeowners, property owners don't know that because as you know, we have a lot of uh illegal dumping throughout the city. And I always wondered why we had so much illegal dumping when all you had to do was just call and make an appointment to have it pick it up at your residence. You can do it online as well. [0:55:36, 0:55:56]: Well, but at the beginning of every year, GFL sends out a reminder about the processes for scheduling bulk waste or excess yard waste, and that goes to every sanitation customer. So whether they read it or not, that's that's a different story. And if you will, if in your presentation, just emphasize to the folks that are watching and listening. [0:55:56, 0:56:09]: about the, you know, the mattresses, the old furniture and things like that, because these are the items that we see in the illegal dumping. And I think we just need to emphasize that you don't have to illegal dump this. [0:56:10, 0:56:30]: Just call and make a schedule for the for, you know, GFL to pick it up. That's important. We need to emphasize that. Yes. But one of the things I find I most people that are dumpling legally, they're not gonna call and schedule a pickup because they're saving money by not having to dispose of it legally. So that's why you find it in in areas like them up. [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: Out of town is in [0:56:33, 0:56:36]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [0:56:36, 0:56:45]: Um, I move that we approve the renewal of the RFP request of tw two oh one five oh eight sanitation collections to GFL. [0:56:46, 0:56:49]: Mr. Bar uh Mr. Berry, second down motion. [0:56:50, 0:56:54]: Excuse me. I have a question. Go write it, please. Uh Mr Erin. [0:56:56, 0:57:12]: So oh, that's FY twenty twenty five. Yes. Never mind. We haven't approved that. But there looks to be a three hundred and nineteen thousand dollar difference between this year and twenty twenty five. Why is that? [0:57:12, 0:57:23]: Because you're accounting for a hundred percent of the annexed residents, the annexed residents were given a year to sign up with the city that allowed them to uh end their contract with their previous provider. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: Thank you, sir. [0:57:25, 0:57:45]: Motion's been made by Miss Snap, second by Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. Nam's decision. Sir. Yes, sir. Out of abundance of caution, I'm gonna abstain from the vote. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Well stand by. Okay, so otherwise the motion is I'm once a 401. Mr. Alexander abstains from that. All right. [0:57:45, 0:57:49]: Thank you sir. Thank you, sir. Um Mr Mr. Gardner, sir. [0:57:54, 0:58:14]: If it please, may I just make like to make a quick um point of per privilege, if you mind me just interjecting in. Uh I wanted to introduce counsel to Mr. Tatum. Mr. Tatum is um one of our jazz musicians that came to us a few years ago as part at the amphitheater, but he's also a major hotel developer. Um and [0:58:14, 0:58:34]: And he has shown a lot of interest in doing a hotel project in the city of Stockbridge, somewhere along Highway 138, right down the street from the uh 138 pocket store, if you get my drift, and taking over that project that I know a lot of folks who had some. [0:58:34, 0:58:54]: issues with but he's been working with us and I wanted to introduce you to him because he's actually played here. He's a world-renowned jazz musician um and a very um entrepreneurial uh young man that used to reside here in Henry County a few years ago. Um but I wanted to introduce you guys to him so if you see him moving around you know [0:58:53, 0:58:56]: probably see him at our next jazz concert. Um [0:58:57, 0:59:01]: But he's played with the likes of Kenny G and the rest of those guys. So well known guy. [0:59:02, 0:59:17]: Thank Mayor Ford. Yeah, th thank you sir. Yes sir. Go ahead please. And and if I may, he he joined us at the volunteer galer a couple of years ago. He was one of the uh acts there as well. So we we know each other pretty well. [0:59:18, 0:59:38]: Abstand. Oh thank you, Mr. Mr. Tatum. Thank you for being here. All right. Okay. All right. So uh next item, council consideration to approve the East Atlanta Road, Lee Street Roads Roadway. Improvement change order number three. We submit construction for additional work included in the supplemental. [0:59:38, 0:59:52]: plan set lee street improvements, all related infrastructure and pedestrian improvements to Bryant Street and along the amphitheater uh entrance roadway in amount of$145,583.97. [0:59:53, 1:00:13]: Funding sources plus. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. This is for the change order for the uh sidewalk from the amphitheater road down to Bryant Street, as well as putting in the retaining wall and and the fencing along that area. So this completes this project and it finalizes the cost for the uh [1:00:13, 1:00:16]: East Atlanta Road Lee Street Improvement Project. [1:00:17, 1:00:29]: Uh so move, Mayor. Go go right, please. So move. Oh okay. Well um I'd like to make a motion to approve to the motion. Well she gotta make the motion. [1:00:30, 1:00:30]: Um [1:00:31, 1:00:39]: Is uh is there a second to the motion? Miss I got Mr. Barrett second that motion. Okay, there I guess no discussion. Okay, hold on. [1:00:40, 1:00:45]: So did I make a motion? Well you said so moved. Did you wanna do you have a question? No. [1:00:46, 1:00:46]: That's it. [1:00:47, 1:01:00]: Okay, for what I got d you made the motion. Yeah. It's made b to accept this. Mr. Berry s uh uh uh second that. Okay. If there's no other discussion, all in favor please indicate. See now it's decision. Okay. Thank you, sir. No problem. [1:01:02, 1:01:22]: All right, what we have next is uh council consideration to amend an ordinance. Uh section 5.13.040 to add D. Owner shall be authorized to sell unused plots to the city of Stockbridge at the original purchase price. Authorize the city clerk to record the transfer of unused plots. [1:01:22, 1:01:26]: Plots from the owner of to the city stop race. Miss Holliday, please. [1:01:26, 1:01:38]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. This is exactly that an ordinance to allow for the city clerk to receive property that wants to be uh returned back to the city for those plots that are unused. [1:01:39, 1:01:40]: That's it. [1:01:40, 1:01:54]: Okay. Mayor. Yes, yes, ma'am. I move that we approve this um authorization for the city clerk to receive the transfer of unused plots back to the city of Stockbridge. Sir. Okay for Miss Gantt to Mr. Alzheimer's all in favor, please indicate. [1:01:54, 1:01:56]: She announced the decision, thank you very much. [1:01:59, 1:02:08]: What's next council of consideration to fill a vacancy and appoint member uh to the public facilities authority board for a four year term. Mr. Washington, please. [1:02:21, 1:02:31]: Maybe Council, we have good evening, we have three applications for [1:02:33, 1:02:34]: Four [1:02:52, 1:02:55]: I only have one application. There's only one application I see as well. [1:02:56, 1:03:01]: L let me ask a question before you do this. Are we not appointing them by district at this point or no? [1:03:03, 1:03:06]: I won't say I don't I don't know anything about about districts. [1:03:09, 1:03:11]: Eight and nine are two different things. [1:03:13, 1:03:17]: I only have I only have one for the PFA in mind. That's correct. [1:03:18, 1:03:20]: One Ms. Thomas for the PFA. [1:03:25, 1:03:29]: And the other one for the youth council advisory committee is only one for that. [1:03:31, 1:03:38]: Oh, there's one for okay. Oh'cause I got a note on there that said it was three for one and there are three big [1:03:40, 1:03:50]: There are three vacancies on the PFA, one applicant. There is one vacancy on the youth council, one applicant. Thank you, ma'am. [1:03:50, 1:03:51]: Yeah. [1:03:52, 1:03:58]: Go ready, please. Is there um not a residency requirement for the boards? [1:04:05, 1:04:15]: Youth Council Advisory amended their ordinance several years ago where they allow for Henry County residents to participate on that board. [1:04:16, 1:04:20]: And the PFA is a city resident. [1:04:21, 1:04:27]: So it doesn't matter how long they've been a resident. No, there there's no [1:04:29, 1:04:29]: Okay. [1:04:32, 1:04:38]: I do have a question too. Go right here, please. Um Councilman Alexander had mentioned the same we had talked about [1:04:39, 1:04:43]: point at some point we have to come to a stop where we're able to appoint [1:04:44, 1:04:45]: From each district. [1:04:47, 1:04:53]: A representative. I know there may be several seats we can do at large, but we also want it to [1:04:53, 1:05:12]: be able to appoint a representative of each district so that we wouldn't have um members of the boards in one particular area and not another, so that we made sure that we had everyone represented. Um what where are we with that and what are we doing about that? [1:05:12, 1:05:15]: Well, we have to iron that out because the D D A [1:05:16, 1:05:18]: has certain criteria. [1:05:18, 1:05:25]: where their business has to be or they have to live. So that with them being in a downtown, [1:05:26, 1:05:28]: I don't believe you can [1:05:28, 1:05:29]: do that with that board. [1:05:29, 1:05:36]: Um with the um the development authority and the DEA are exceptions to the rule. Those are guidelines. [1:05:37, 1:05:53]: by the Georgia regulations on particular members. Along with the C D A. Along with the C has criteria. With the planning those that don't have the criteria. The youth council, the the facilities authority, whatever does not have those criteria does you have specific [1:05:53, 1:06:03]: jurisdictions or specific that you don't have to have specific people then we should be able to appoint by districts. How are we gonna handle that? [1:06:03, 1:06:06]: So the own the one that's the one that's currently [1:06:07, 1:06:27]: One hundred percent by district is the planning commission. You have a member from each district when someone rolled off the last time we were able to place someone from each district there and then we have one position that is the mayor's at large. So that's the only one that we've been able to roll off and do at this point. Um [1:06:27, 1:06:29]: But with Main Street [1:06:30, 1:06:36]: And you know, we've spoken about your C D A and your D D A. Let me ask a question. You said the planning commission we have that already? [1:06:36, 1:06:40]: The planning commission has a member re representative from each district currently. [1:06:42, 1:06:46]: Uh your district is Mr. Doomas, if I'm not mistaken, Stanley Doumas. Okay. [1:06:48, 1:06:55]: Mr. Azan, you say has some? Yeah, on the C D on the City Wide Development Authority we have, what, nine members now? [1:06:55, 1:07:15]: You have seven? But I'm telling you we we have up the number. That's correct, and they're vacant. You have two vacant seats right now. Right. So in essence what we could do is to start it w with nine positions, five of them could be I mean, I guess a number of them could be by district. However, some of your members are [1:07:15, 1:07:18]: county, so they're not in the a district. [1:07:18, 1:07:19]: Okay. [1:07:19, 1:07:39]: And that's so it's that's why it's not been easy to Okay, I understand. But I guess we'd have to graph ordinances saying that council members got an appointment for these positions from their district if the board would allow for that. If the board would allow for them. And as they roll off, where i it's easier to do it once someone rolls off than when [1:07:39, 1:07:52]: We can we would have to just do an ordinance. We just have to look at it and see about an ordinance that would encompass the appointment authority per district based upon the board so that would be an eligible fee. [1:07:53, 1:08:13]: Right. My second question would my question to Mayor Felsen Go ahead please. Is that if if even if we are district representatives, does the person have to live in the district? Now with the like the city the the the citywide development authority, we have some county members on there, right? Even though on that particular board where it is as is [1:08:13, 1:08:20]: that we could appoint members who were not uh that didn't live in the district per se. But we would have an appointee. [1:08:20, 1:08:38]: Right, I guess that's what I guess that's what we're going to, you know, if this you all consensus that's what we'll look at is what boards and what it would look like for you all's appointments based on when they roll off and what the competition will look like, also including um an appointment for the mayor as well. [1:08:38, 1:08:39]: Okay. [1:08:40, 1:08:42]: All right. Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:08:42, 1:08:48]: Uh we're not put this in a motion but just a recommendation. It is it appears that [1:08:48, 1:08:50]: Each board [1:08:51, 1:08:53]: The composition and the requirements are different. [1:08:55, 1:08:57]: It seems that we should take [1:08:57, 1:09:00]: Each board individually. [1:09:00, 1:09:20]: and create the makeup and how we appoint board by board because as Ms. Holliday indicated, um you just c the the requirements for one board won't fit the other board. But if you take them board by board [1:09:20, 1:09:40]: And set those requirements, then it's it's I think it's easier that way. And uh, you know, and we just had to come back and just do that. Yeah, we just need it what I would do is I'll just work with the clerk's office to get a list of all the boards and then we can look through what that would look like to be able to present to you all at a later date. And and and if it's okay with with the council if you [1:09:40, 1:10:00]: You mark up uh a draft of what y between you and the clerk what it will require for each board, and then you can bring that back to the council and we can say yay or nay.'Cause like you say, now I know with the um like I said the planning and I believe it's that way with the uh police advisory board. [1:10:00, 1:10:14]: That's someone from each district. But each board I think is just different. And I just think it'll be much easier if we just looked at this board by board. Yep. And create that own individual uh requirement. So think right now there are how many boards? [1:10:16, 1:10:17]: Yeah. [1:10:18, 1:10:38]: Ten. How much time do you think you need? Thirty days, forty five days? What do you need? Forty five days. Thirty to forty five. Okay, so if you're saying forty five days, that'll make it uh the We never in October. Um right. That's that's what it makes it it'll make the October uh board uh council meeting. All right. Yes, sir. But now even though we [1:10:38, 1:10:45]: We have this on this agenda tonight. We still gotta vote on this. Yes. We still have to vote on this. Yes, I know. We still gotta vote on it. [1:10:47, 1:11:02]: So what what you what you have here is uh uh but you got one individual uh for the public facilities. I believe uh what uh clerks mentioned is that the three vacancies but only one individual before us now and that's a Tohisha. If I got Thomas? [1:11:03, 1:11:07]: Tossed or Thomas or whatever how you pronounce it? Tosica. Tossica. [1:11:08, 1:11:28]: Uh so let me ask you this, Clint, before you sit down. And this is what I would like to see, and I think we discussed this at the last one, and certainly because we gotta do these in public, in addition to just this basic form, just to require a resume or something so we can kinda understand what does this. [1:11:28, 1:11:40]: person have the qualifications for the board because in the end we we just can't keep appointing people who don't have the skills for what we need to execute on these boards. I'm not interested in that. [1:11:40, 1:12:00]: I agree. Um, Mayor. Yeah, go ahead please. I I agree. I'm I and Madam Clerk, uh unless they have a resume from now on, I'm not in agreement in appointing anybody else. Like, I don't think it's I don't think it I mean we don't know we used at some point we used to interview people and [1:12:00, 1:12:10]: and bring people on board. But I r would much rather us have our policy in place on who we need to appoint district wise. Oh number one. [1:12:10, 1:12:22]: And number two, maybe give them a opportunity to submit their resume. I s you know, I I see that they've been here for three years. And I and my concern is is though we're talking about people [1:12:23, 1:12:40]: kinda like their employees to a certain degree and we're out in the public. That's another thing. That's another reason why we used to go in executive session to discuss certain things. So um I um I just think that um [1:12:43, 1:13:03]: I th I just think that we should um yeah requ table this and uh right now until we get everything in order in regards to our districts and in regards to resumes of something attached. Or application process. And yeah, we need a we need a better application process right now. I mean it's [1:13:03, 1:13:06]: Incomplete as far as I'm concerned. From now on. [1:13:06, 1:13:08]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [1:13:08, 1:13:14]: Uh I'd like to make a motion that for each I'm sorry, Miss Gantt. [1:13:14, 1:13:21]: No, I made a motion already to table. She motioned to table. Oh. Table. Question Mayor. Yes, yes, yes. Go ahead, please. [1:13:23, 1:13:25]: Questi what's the question? [1:13:25, 1:13:29]: Well you you you said you had a question. So the um [1:13:30, 1:13:32]: Members that are currently there. [1:13:34, 1:13:35]: May not [1:13:35, 1:13:39]: Or bank we may have people in the same district. What [1:13:41, 1:13:55]: Well th I think they're already I think there are you probably have to let let it ride out to the finish their expiration date or if they happen to resign, you gotta finish that out. You can't just take them out place. I don't think you can do that. Right. I would be well, I don't think it'd be proper to do that. You have to let'em finish them out their your their term. [1:13:57, 1:13:58]: That's what I would think. That's my thoughts anyway. [1:13:59, 1:14:09]: And that's why I wanna table this so that we can put it on to actually discuss a process. Maybe we need for someone to test someone with a process in the way we handle [1:14:09, 1:14:10]: Appointments in the future. [1:14:11, 1:14:12]: In addition to [1:14:12, 1:14:32]: the our policies in place because I believe that this application um doesn't give us enough information. And so we need to have a strict policy on the way that needs to take place. And I think that each council member can probably email their desires and wishes for that. And our our our our attorney [1:14:32, 1:14:39]: Or whomever's gonna draft it can draft up a suggestion on the way we handle things in the future. [1:14:40, 1:15:00]: Okay, so that's uh you made a motion. Now uh mister um excuse me, Miss uh Holiday, you did you get all that? Yes. Okay. All right, so that that we'll do this is gonna be for number eight, then we'll do a separate one for number nine as well. Okay. For number this is number eight. So motion been made by Miss Gantt, say by Mr. Alzheimer's. Is there a second I'm excuse me? [1:15:00, 1:15:02]: All in favor, please indicate. [1:15:02, 1:15:06]: Dis discussion. Oh okay. Excuse me. Discussion. What's your discussion, sir? [1:15:06, 1:15:07]: Uh [1:15:08, 1:15:28]: I I'm in agreement with everything that's being said. And I just think that we've already tasked the attorneys to do certain things. Can we just sort of add this to that and bring all of this back at one time and we can sort of just conclude this? But I'm in agreement that every [1:15:28, 1:15:38]: application should uh contain a resume. And if we can just go ahead and test the attorney to do all of this and just bring it back. I mean it just [1:15:38, 1:15:58]: Well yeah. Well it was w the motion was already made and seconded. That's why I asked Miss uh Miss Holliday uh to read back the motion, make sure it's straight. I don't what you're stalking about it's a good recommendation, Mr. Thomas, but I don't think we add it to the motion unless the original individual I would ask that Mrs. Gann do that because I think it's sort of cut to the chase and we can save some time if [1:15:58, 1:16:12]: If if if the directive and if the assignment is to do A and B, then at the end of this meeting, the attorney will know that he's going to work on A and B and bring A and B back to the council. [1:16:13, 1:16:23]: Ma'am. Yes ma'am. So j uh just for the record, uh page three of the application does request that they but it is not mandated. So the the council's [1:16:23, 1:16:43]: will is to have that that be mandated because it is shown right now on page three. Yeah, please start your resume of qualification. Yes. So um I'm make I made a motion. I asked well I actually made it I s discussed and said I believe that it should be a part of the policy and that we're gonna table this so that the [1:16:43, 1:16:44]: The attorney [1:16:45, 1:16:50]: can come up with the policies and procedures which includes [1:16:50, 1:17:03]: um redrafting our application and the process of the way things are required to include the resume. I mentioned the resume because that was my number one concern. Like I know that it's May [1:17:04, 1:17:24]: But we have some other things in there as well, such as term, like um years of how long have you been here? We're required to be here at least a year before you run for office. So you have to look at certain things um and then look at our districts. Which ones can we have with districts? So I've [1:17:23, 1:17:28]: I've made the motion and I agree. I mean, if ca if that can clarify [1:17:28, 1:17:33]: and help councilman Thomas, my motion is that we table this so that our attorney [1:17:34, 1:17:46]: can get together a policy and procedure for us to and some options for us to vote on in order to start appointing different committees and boards. [1:17:47, 1:17:53]: Once again a second from from Mr. Alexander. Any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. [1:17:54, 1:18:10]: Genamus decision. Now that was for number eight. I'd like to do the same thing for number nine. So what uh let me just hold on one second, let me just read it. Council consideration to fill a vacancy and appoint a member to the youth council advisory committee to fill an unspired term. And that says presented by Miss Washington. Now what is the motion, please? [1:18:12, 1:18:22]: I'd like to make a motion to table agenda item number nine until our attorney can come up with policies and procedures [1:18:22, 1:18:42]: Um and and bring them back to Mayor and Council in a way to appoint um different boards and committees. So second to the motion. Mr. Berry second. Any further discussion? All favor please indicate. So you now decision. Okay. Thank you very much. For announcements and upcoming meeting events. Uh [1:18:42, 1:19:02]: Council meetings will be held in Council City Council Chamber. Meeting dates, location, and times are subject to change, or contact City Hall Offices 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.starbridgega.org for updates. A community zoning and information meeting Wednesday, September 4th. [1:19:02, 1:19:22]: From six PM to seven PM of City Hall Council Chambers. 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[1:20:54, 1:21:14]: for the senior Bingo Bash on Wednesday, September 18th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon in Merrill Manor's Conference Center and 111 Davis Road for Raffles, prizes, games, snacks, and fun. Join me for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, September 23rd at 10 a.m. to noon in Starbury City Hall. The bridge [1:21:14, 1:21:34]: Bridge Fest 2024 is coming. The City of Stockbridge Government is hosting this annual event for the community on Saturday, September 28th. We'll have a live concert, food, trucks, vendors, and more. Get ready for the fun, Stockbridge Amphitheater. If you have any questions, please email bradley at Stockbridge G A dot or G as soon as possible for vendor opportunities. [1:21:34, 1:21:54]: Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative centered around in education, highlighting the causes and effects of littering, illegal dumping, and more information to follow. Also join Councilman Thomas for honoring veterans and a continuous salute to all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans with their name, branch, rank, and years of service. [1:21:54, 1:22:14]: And contact Roslin Rawls' schedule appointment to meet the mayor. For more information on council initiatives and events, call Roslin at 678-833-3348 or email ralls at Stockbridgega.org. The 2024 Stockbridge Amphitheater Concert Series, Saturday, September 14th, of course is our third-year anniversary. [1:22:14, 1:22:34]: We cool in the gang and special guest more stay in the time. Saturday, October 5th, featuring Monica and Tame Arms rescheduled concert due to rain out. Saturday, uh October 12th, featuring that girl Lele Youth Concert, our very first youth concert that we had at an amphitheater. It's going to be fantastic. Bring out the young [1:22:34, 1:22:54]: Young folks for that one. Sunday, October 13th, right behind that youth concert will be the Kings and Queens of Southern Soul Show, featuring King George, Tucker, Sir Charles Jones, Pokey Bear, TK Soul, West Love, and Derek the Changed Man Smith. I'm pretty sure that'll be a sold-out show as well. Sunday, October 13th. [1:22:54, 1:23:14]: 20th, 2024, of course, a rescheduled show featuring Charlie Wilson and special guest this time, El DeBarge. In our very last concert of our 2024 season is Saturday, October 23rd. Excuse me, October 26th. Bony James Slow Burn Tour with special guest Damien Escobar. The uh for your jazz lovers, come on. [1:23:14, 1:23:34]: out for that one, right? Stockbridge Main Street Tiny Tent Concert Series. Friday's weather permitting. Uh the show will be start at 6 p.m. and then will end at 8 p.m. The show will take place on 130 MLK Senior Heritage Trail in the Stockbridge, of course, downtown. Enjoy good music. Local restaurants will be open for your community. [1:23:34, 1:23:54]: And uh make sure you have a uh bring a family, bring the family and make sure you uh you bring the long chair for that. And my comments are simply this um uh back to school. Everybody's back, the kids are back to school now, all levels, from college all the way to elementary school. So uh be keep them in. [1:23:54, 1:24:14]: Of course, we're going to end our summer here shortly. Labor Day weekend is coming. And so hopefully you've had a great summer and ready for a wonderful fall. And mentioning fall is football season. So folks, get your football on, right? At all levels, high school, college, as well as pros. [1:24:14, 1:24:34]: And uh what I received, I want to let you know that I received three thank you letters that came to me. I received these thank you letters for the legends of the LPGA. These are the women golfers that were here at the Eagles Land Country Club about five weeks ago. We honored them with a uh proclamation, spent some time with them, and they said [1:24:34, 1:24:35]: Sent me some thank you cards. [1:24:36, 1:24:41]: And they said they had a wonderful time and one two. Okay, and they look for they look forward to c look forward to coming back. [1:24:41, 1:25:00]: The Eagles Land Country Club. So I want to mention that to you. They love what was happening here. On that note, ladies and gentlemen, uh council, we need to have a second session uh talking about personnel, you know, and and legal as or um real estate uh type issues. I need a motion to go to the executive session, please. So moved. Is there a second? [1:25:00, 1:25:02]: Mr. Alexander, secondly, all favor, please indicate. [1:25:03, 1:25:06]: We'll go into second session. Thank you. Let's go. We'll be back, people. [1:25:23, 1:25:25]: Before I forget. [1:25:28, 1:25:41]: Well let's see if the person come forward. Did the master wear anybody in or they just filling out their classications? Which one? The last person. I don't know what you don't want. [1:25:41, 1:25:48]: I know. I'm just saying I'm not sure whether he has sworn the first did the person show up or he just [1:25:49, 1:25:54]: Yeah. But this is this is what we want. This is right. I I I don't like one thing. [2:00:15, 2:00:16]: Oh just okay. [2:00:17, 2:00:19]: And we'll be calling it. [2:00:19, 2:00:23]: [7224.5, 7230.4]: All right, Council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. So move from Mr. Alistair, who's second that? [2:00:31, 2:00:45]: I need second Ms. Ms. Gantt, second now. All in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Now I need a motion to uh reconvene our city council work session, please. So moved. Okay for Ms. Gantt. Mr. Berry, second down, all in favor, please indicate. [2:00:45, 2:01:05]: All right, and from the executive session, uh there is something that uh we need to present uh in reference to our discussion. Ms. Alexander, please. Yes, Mayor, thank you so much. I want to make a motion to improve the uh D D the D D A M O U for parking improvements uh on the Burke Street property um to move forward with uh [2:01:05, 2:01:09]: uh parking striping and various improvements on that lot. [2:01:09, 2:01:17]: I second. Okay. Uh you you you Ms. Gantt, you second that? Ms. Gantt second that. All favor, please indicate. Comment. [2:01:18, 2:01:22]: Oh okay, all fifth. Okay, four. Comment. Okay, please. [2:01:24, 2:01:28]: I don't know any more details than what [2:01:29, 2:01:30]: Councilman Alexander. [2:01:30, 2:01:31]: Just mentioned. [2:01:32, 2:01:34]: We don't have an invoice. [2:01:35, 2:01:35]: The cost [2:01:36, 2:01:37]: When the project will start. [2:01:38, 2:01:40]: How long it will take for them to complete it? [2:01:41, 2:01:42]: Nothing. [2:01:43, 2:01:44]: I support [2:01:45, 2:01:46]: The DA's efforts. [2:01:47, 2:01:48]: In repaving the parking lot. [2:01:49, 2:01:52]: I just don't know any more than what he just shared. [2:01:53, 2:02:13]: So I will abstain. All right. So okay. So most of the case. Let me let me say this originally. This was a city project originally, and the city manager came to the DDA to actually fund the project. Total cost seven, eight hundred dollars. It was actually spoken, they had scope of work and everything that was completed on this. The city manager [2:02:13, 2:02:27]: manager actually acting as economic development director made the presentation to the DDA board and the DDA board voted to ratify it. They're paying for it so we don't have to use city funds. That was the idea. [2:02:27, 2:02:42]: All right, so motion passed four zero one. All right. So it's it's passed. Now the emotion end our meeting, please. Mr. Berry, is a second? I second. Okay, Miss Gantt. I mean Miss Gantt second. All in favor, please indicate. Is that now Sister? Good night everybody. God bless you. [2:02:45, 2:02:46]: All right. [2:02:49, 2:02:49]: No.
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    --- title: Planning Commission date: 2024-08-15 source: 2024-08-15_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Nope. [0:01:05, 0:01:07]: Testing, testing. There we go. [0:01:09, 0:01:12]: Commissioners, I think we should test your mics to make sure it works. [0:01:14, 0:01:17]: What about now? All right. [0:01:27, 0:01:35]: Okay, is that better? What's a great meeting without technical difficulties, right? To start. All right. [0:01:37, 0:01:47]: Okay. Uh did we complete the roll call? I couldn't hear all of it. She needs to re repeat the roll call. Yes, if you would please. Please repeat the roll call, please. [0:01:47, 0:01:48]: Okay, Stanley Dumas. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: Not present. Anthony Mitten. [0:01:52, 0:01:53]: Present. [0:01:53, 0:02:01]: Harold Thibodeau? Present. David Planchon. Present. Jaden Williams? Present. Matthew Thomas. Present. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: Mr. Chairman, we have quorum. [0:02:04, 0:02:10]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. Uh next we'll go with the invocation. Mr. Thibodeau, could you lead us in prayer, please? [0:02:12, 0:02:13]: Let's buy all that. [0:02:13, 0:02:26]: Let's bow our head. God the Father through Jesus Christ, give us the opportunity and grant us the wisdom to go forward and say and do the right thing towards the citizens of Stockbridge. In Jesus' name, amen. [0:02:26, 0:02:27]: Amen. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Next the Pledge of Allegiance, if everyone stand, please. [0:02:34, 0:02:40]: The uh agenda for tonight. Take a couple of minutes to review it, please. [0:02:40, 0:02:50]: Uh Mr. Chairman, um number item number two, um we planning and zoning request to defer. We need to do some more research on the maps. [0:02:54, 0:02:55]: Okay, it's noted. [0:03:29, 0:03:29]: Chair. [0:03:31, 0:03:31]: Yes sir. [0:03:32, 0:03:37]: With the um notion to defer item number two, I make a motion that we approve tonight's agenda meeting. [0:03:38, 0:03:41]: Mr. Jaden approves. Can I have a second, please? Second. [0:03:41, 0:03:44]: Mr. Thompson seconds passes. [0:03:45, 0:03:50]: All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passes. Thank you. [0:03:52, 0:03:59]: All right, next we have the minutes from the last meeting of the eighteenth. [0:04:00, 0:04:03]: The vote as far as who made the motion, who seconded. [0:04:03, 0:04:07]: I'm sorry, Mr. Jaden made the motion. Mr. Thomas seconded. [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: Thank you. [0:04:09, 0:04:11]: The motion was approved. [0:04:15, 0:04:20]: Okay, I'd like the commission to review the approval of the minutes in the last meeting of july eighteenth, please. [0:04:56, 0:04:58]: Okay, so everyone had the opportunity to review? [0:05:02, 0:05:14]: May I have a motion to approve the summary minutes of the last meeting? Mr. Chairman, this is David Planchon. I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes from last meeting. Do I have a second? I second. Matthew Thomas. [0:05:17, 0:05:20]: All in favor? To approve? Aye. [0:05:23, 0:05:28]: All right folks, before we get started tonight, um very quickly [0:05:29, 0:05:33]: Just want to go over a few ground rules for the meeting, please. [0:05:34, 0:05:45]: So I do want to welcome everyone to the Planning Commission meeting. I'm Anthony Mitten. I'm the Vice Chairman of the Planning Commission. Uh the other members of the Planning Commission are Stanley Doumas, who's not here tonight. He's also the chairman. [0:05:46, 0:06:00]: Uh Harold Thibodeau, David Planchin, Jaden Williams, and Matthew Thomas. The staff members are Ryan Anderson, Community Development Director Meredith Garmin, City Zoning Attorney Keedra Jackson, Chief Planner, Linda Logan, Senior Planner, [0:06:01, 0:06:18]: uh Gordon Linton, who's also a planner. So there's a few protocols that we want to talk about for the meeting tonight. First off, we want to make sure that we keep our comments and presentations on a professional level. Uh wanna deal with the facts that are important for this commission to make its decision. We do not accept comments that are considered by [0:06:18, 0:06:22]: Uh, the chair to be a personal attack on any individual or group individuals. [0:06:23, 0:06:28]: You'll receive a warning from the chair if you deviate from this requirement. A second deviation will result in a request. [0:06:29, 0:06:31]: For you to leave the meeting and the premises for the evening. [0:06:32, 0:06:42]: Uh please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. Only one person will be talking at a time and all comments will be made at the podium after the speaker who's been recognized by the chair. [0:06:43, 0:06:48]: Please direct all comments to the chair and the commission, not to the audiencers of the staff. [0:06:49, 0:06:51]: Please do not apply to react to speakers. [0:06:51, 0:06:53]: Speak from the audience, Chair. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Carry on a conversation. [0:06:55, 0:06:58]: What chairs in the audience or disrupt the order of this meeting in any way? [0:06:59, 0:07:01]: Be aware that these hearings are not a debate. [0:07:01, 0:07:03]: Or an opportunity to ask questions. [0:07:03, 0:07:08]: Which must be answered by any individual tonight, but are merely an opportunity to present information to the commission. [0:07:09, 0:07:12]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once [0:07:13, 0:07:18]: The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last. [0:07:19, 0:07:27]: He may use the entire minutes allotted the allot the entire ten minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. Other than the applicant, no person may speak longer than five minutes. [0:07:29, 0:07:36]: If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, I ask that you either power them off or put them on silent mode. So if you haven't done so, please make sure you do that now. [0:07:38, 0:07:53]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight, please fill out a form available on the table up front and hand it to the staff before approaching the podium. So you'll see these up front. Please make sure that you do sign your name. I believe it has your name and your address. Fill that out completely before you're called or before you approach the podium. [0:07:55, 0:08:11]: After each case is called, we will hear next from the uh city staff and then we will hear from the applicant or the representative about what their plans are for the property, along with any other relevant information they wish to present. The commission members will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote on a project. [0:08:12, 0:08:15]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak for or against the project. [0:08:16, 0:08:21]: Or just ask questions and we'll have an opportunity to do so. Each side is restricted to a maximum of ten minutes. [0:08:22, 0:08:28]: Or time may be waived at the discretion of the presiding official. If questions are raised, we may ask the applicant to speak again. [0:08:29, 0:08:31]: Afterward we would call for a motion and a second. [0:08:31, 0:08:34]: Have any necessary discussion and if the matter's not tabled [0:08:35, 0:08:43]: We will vote to recommend approval or denial of the application. This commission is only a recommending body. Please understand that. We are only a recommending body to the city council. [0:08:45, 0:08:51]: The items will be heard by the mayor and the council, whether we recommend approval or recommend denial, unless tabled. [0:08:51, 0:08:56]: Those item these items will be heard by the city's mayor and council at the next meeting on Monday, the twelfth of June. [0:08:57, 0:08:59]: and voted upon by them at the meeting. [0:09:01, 0:09:09]: Uh so we do have the first case tonight would be the Patrick Henry Master Parkway Master Plan. I'm sorry, Park Patrick Henry Parkway Master Plan. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: I'll read that into the record. [0:09:12, 0:09:15]: Um that's for council district five consideration of the [0:09:15, 0:09:20]: Patrick Henry Parkway Master Plan, which was prepared by the TSW consulting firm. [0:09:21, 0:09:34]: It proposed a mixture of retail, commercial, residential, and entertainment uses for areas along the southern end of Patrick Henry Parkway, with some properties lined within the Stockbridge city limits and others lined within unincorporated Henry County. [0:09:39, 0:09:41]: Okay, staff will now present the item, please. [0:09:49, 0:09:50]: Good evening, everyone. [0:09:55, 0:10:15]: I am going to attempt to present in this heat. My name is Kedra Jackson, Chief Planner of the Planning and Zoning Division. Tonight, before you, we would like for you to consider a citywide initiated rezoning by the City of Stockbridge. And the intent here is to rezone properties. [0:10:15, 0:10:21]: Um there are parcel numbers listed in your staff report, the copy of your staff report, but for the [0:10:28, 0:10:48]: The intent is to rezone the property from rural residential RR to planned unit development, PUD to allow for a mixed-use development. The subject properties range from the southern portion of Patrick Henry Boulevard, Parkway, excuse me, to the endpoint of Holloway Road. [0:10:48, 0:10:56]: The subject properties consist of various owners and contains approximately more or less 41.68 acres. [0:10:58, 0:11:18]: Again, the proposed development is a misuse development that will consist of residential components as well as office complexes, retail, hotels, or and different other misuse components. The established valuation of the project consists of 350. [0:11:18, 0:11:32]: fifty million dollars. It will also contain entertainment venues, restaurants, establishments. Also job opportunities will be presented to the citizens of the city of Stockbridge. [0:11:35, 0:11:40]: This property is located in District Five, Land Lot forty six. [0:11:41, 0:11:55]: As I mentioned, there are various owners that are aware of this rezoning and have consented to the city in moving forward with the rezoning. There is no history on this property. The property is vacant in nature. [0:11:56, 0:11:59]: And it would help if I move the PowerPoint here. [0:12:00, 0:12:15]: So this is the site plan of the proposed development. Um the subject property currently is vacant, heavily wooded, um, and as you can see it has a irregular shape to the him explained that to you. [0:12:18, 0:12:35]: Again, this is the site plan, the proposed site plan of the development. And this shows an aerial view of the property. So as you can see, there is residential development to the east of the property, vacant land. [0:12:35, 0:12:51]: goes all the way to Holloway Road, um to the west, again vac vacant land. And as I mentioned in twenty twenty three there was a proposed or uh um approved development to the north of this project of this property. [0:12:53, 0:12:57]: This is the zoning map of the property. [0:13:00, 0:13:12]: The the stars moved to the right a little bit, but um the yellow portions are the rural residential components and as you can see the arrows showing where Holloway Road is located. [0:13:15, 0:13:22]: This is a street view of the site towards that southeast corner of the subject property. [0:13:27, 0:13:30]: And here is the future land use map. [0:13:31, 0:13:51]: So what we're gonna do is just um the future land use map currently is showing um misuse residential, misuse residential. We're going to maintain the land use there. Um in your staff report you may see that um there was a um [0:13:51, 0:13:58]: Um statement that we may change the land use. We're not going to move forward with that. We'll just keep it here. [0:14:02, 0:14:12]: This does coincide with our comprehensive plan. Um, our comprehensive plan does calls for the development of misuse and office and retail. [0:14:12, 0:14:16]: Um the proposed mix use development will help to meet that need. [0:14:17, 0:14:27]: The companion future land use map shows a land use destination of high density residential. So I applied apologize. I think I said misuse before, but it's high density residential. [0:14:28, 0:14:44]: So this will include both residential and commercial uses. The compatible land use destination can be high density mitz use, but again, we're not um intending on changing the mitts use here. So the rezoning will be the only change that will be made. [0:14:44, 0:14:51]: Here is a proposed visual of what the development could look like. [0:14:52, 0:15:00]: And we are still in the planning stages of what um the architectural materials will consist of. [0:15:04, 0:15:21]: And there's another image of the proposed development. We are just presenting this tonight. We're not asking for a vote. Um this may come back before you. And um I will now hand it over to the city manager. [0:15:25, 0:15:26]: Good evening. [0:15:27, 0:15:28]: Um [0:15:28, 0:15:35]: As Ms. Keejo stated, this this has been a plan uh we've been working on with the property owners along that corridor. [0:15:35, 0:15:37]: uh for the last year and a half. [0:15:37, 0:15:40]: Um working along with TSW on behalf of the city. [0:15:41, 0:15:48]: And the intent behind this was not to have another major corridor that looks like the same with a bunch of strip centers and so forth. [0:15:49, 0:16:00]: So with that in mind, we took a proactive approach of working with the landowners to land plan this project to something that you typically see not see on the south side of Atlanta, or should I say south of I twenty. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: You see this in the Brookhaven? [0:16:03, 0:16:11]: You see this in the Sugar Hill, you see this in the Swanee, you see this in the Alpharetta area. Um [0:16:11, 0:16:18]: And working with those guys to say, hey, how do we do something different here that hasn't been done on the south side of Atlanta? [0:16:18, 0:16:38]: Um in the 25 years I've been here and engaged in land use planning and management. And so with that, we've sat down with these landowners and said, look, we don't want the same the same typical development. And with that, we've we've worked together with land planning firm to come up with a a true concept of a mixed-use development. [0:16:38, 0:16:58]: Um, where we have vertical mix use as well as um restaurant opportunities, office opportunities, um, residential opportunities. Um what you see before you on this plan was back in 2010, the county engaged in a Liverpool Centers initiative study that was done for this whole entire area. [0:16:58, 0:17:14]: area and part of that plan re reflected what you see here on on the map to the right. Right. Um as we know that back then we were coming out of well still in a recession back then and the market has changed. [0:17:14, 0:17:17]: Uh and so that plan has changed to some degree. [0:17:17, 0:17:37]: But we recognize that some of the components in that plan are still useful. And with that in mind, we move forward with with a new concept. I will say that the multifamily that you see here will probably end up not getting built for the simple fact that I can't tell you who's potentially coming there, but there's a major entity. [0:17:37, 0:17:42]: That's coming there that would be a literal game changer for not just the city of Stockbridge, but for [0:17:43, 0:17:51]: Henry County as a whole and the South Side of Atlanta for the whole. Because in order for you to enjoy that venue, you literally have to go on the north side of Atlanta to get to it. [0:17:52, 0:18:12]: And I will leave it at that. Um but the other components of this are still very much in play. Um and this is something that obviously uh we've talked to Henry County about. They are very much engaged in this. This is the type of planning that I was hoping that would happen throughout the county at some point to slow down the mass development in the Hitherland. [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: Um [0:18:14, 0:18:34]: But a portion of this property to the south is still in the county. Um the owner of that pro portion of the development is actually going to be seeking annexation with the county is aware of. They've seen this plan, they have no problems with it, um, and should allow for that portion to come into the city. This will be a little different from what you see across the street on the southwest. [0:18:34, 0:18:54]: Portion of the interchange with the Bridges of Jotico. You have more dispersed use. Here it's a little bit more condensed. But pretty much not accomplishing this with a big box retail. There will be no big box retail here. There will be mom and pop shops with folks living above, restaurant up. [0:18:54, 0:19:14]: Opportunities and we are actually actively talking to restaurants. Um, a few of them you may know by name about locating as in portions of this development as well. So it's an ongoing process with us working um with the landowners and their reps to make this happen. Um and hopefully uh by the time I come back to you guys. [0:19:14, 0:19:27]: next month I will actually be able to name the entity that's actually coming on the top portion of this property. Okay. All right. And this is just for presentation. I'm here to ask any questions you may have. Okay. Um while you're there. Any questions from the board? [0:19:29, 0:19:29]: Mr. J. [0:19:30, 0:19:50]: Yeah, um thank you, Ms. Jackson, and thank you, City Manager, for the the report. Uh a few questions actually, but I know it's still in the planning process. So I just want to make sure one, I say this every meeting, just about, um I'm one thousand percent for bringing new development and bringing success for our city. Um but this is I definitely can say this is something that the young professionals [0:19:50, 0:19:57]: That we want to bring to the city will definitely come to. Um, but I have a few concerns and a few questions. Uh one is [0:19:58, 0:20:00]: Let me see how to say this right. [0:20:01, 0:20:12]: Um, is there a reason why this is still another like kinda sort of the similar project in district five? Like is there now no other district this can be done in around the city or? [0:20:12, 0:20:25]: So the answer to the question is where do you put density from a land use smart planning concept? You put it next to where the transportation network could support it, right? If I built this in Kellytown, it would be totally out of place. [0:20:25, 0:20:29]: Right, because there's nothing in Kellytown to support a development like this, right? [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: So most of the folks like you say it. [0:20:32, 0:20:35]: This development probably won't have me living in it, but who will it have? [0:20:35, 0:20:40]: My son, who's twenty three years old, that lives in a development just like this in Alexandria, Virginia. [0:20:41, 0:20:44]: Right, but he doesn't want to come home because those amenities don't exist here. [0:20:45, 0:20:53]: Right. Um, so yeah, this would be something that would attract him, pretty much in your generation. Right. Um, so this is not for me. [0:20:54, 0:20:58]: Right, when I leave this, it's gonna be either acreages or island. [0:20:58, 0:20:59]: I'm a boo. [0:20:59, 0:21:02]: Um outside of that, um [0:21:02, 0:21:11]: There is this is where you would want to put a density development. And if you go back to Henry County's zoning and land use plan, this is what you call a node. [0:21:12, 0:21:14]: So you have the density necessary. [0:21:15, 0:21:24]: But it's close to where you have our major arterial interstate interchange to allow for flow of traffic. So this is the best place to put it from a land use planning standpoint. [0:21:25, 0:21:45]: Okay. I'm gonna try to sum up my last my last questions all at one time. One, I saw on here the collaboration master plan coordination. Um, and this is a huge development. I don't see that there was any coordination or discussion with the school board about it. I mean it's it's literally directly close to the school. Hold on, not finished. I'm I'm gonna give you all of them at one time. Um one, the school the school board, because [0:21:44, 0:21:50]: Um traffic study, um also [0:21:51, 0:22:07]: Is there gonna be any type of road road expansion for that area? Um and then I I wanna say these are two retention ponds on the I wanna say north and kind of the southeastern western side of it. Are those retention ponds in the in the layout or w what is that on the side? [0:22:07, 0:22:10]: To to the north. Okay. So first question, B O E. [0:22:11, 0:22:31]: Um so no, the BOE, this hasn't been approved, so no, it hasn't gone to them and they don't review uh zoning nor the county zonings. Um they give reference in the as a determined to the impact. So what you see here are not three bedrooms. These are typically gonna be um for the above retail, probably one and two bedroom. [0:22:30, 0:22:34]: homes for the most part. Um you will have some town homes here. [0:22:35, 0:22:55]: Um, like I said, the apartments will probably go away or will go away and will not be developed as part of this if that entity um when I can disclose who it is, w when you find out who it is, they won't that those apartments will go away. So as it relates to impact on the school should not be any different than [0:22:54, 0:23:14]: Um the development that's 100% rental a half a mile down the street from this, um, or what's happening at the bridges of Jodeco for the most part. As it relates to traffic study, um, there's already been traffic study done. As you see on this plan, you have a four-lane divided. [0:23:14, 0:23:16]: [1396.6, 1401.3]: Um right now if you're on Patrick Henry and you're going from Jodico to Eagles Landing. [0:23:21, 0:23:27]: The lanes that you see that are northbound and southbound are actually the northbound road. [0:23:27, 0:23:34]: up to Eagles Landing. Um both the city and the county have put monies towards the um [0:23:35, 0:23:55]: This engineering and design work as it relates to the other additional lane that needs to come through. The right-of-way exists for pretty much ninety-five percent of the roadway. Um the bridge will have to be replaced, obviously. Um and also um so and the developer would also put in part of the cost to make those road improvements or bond. [0:23:55, 0:24:10]: for in lieu thereof. I will say that um like I said this is a collaborative we understand that this road is going to be improved. This development obviously won't get built in one year. This is going to be a multi-year project. [0:24:10, 0:24:23]: Uh and so the road construction will coincide with the development. Um our goal is to have Splus Two be the actual development um for the northbound lane, well the southbound lane, two lanes when it comes through. [0:24:25, 0:24:35]: And that's what's planned for for Patrick Henry. So right now it's in uh SPLOS six to do the engineering and design. It'll be in T Splos two. [0:24:35, 0:24:42]: for development and the replacement of the bridge, which still needs to be replaced regardless if this get the road gets foreigned. [0:24:46, 0:24:48]: Mr. President, may I speak? [0:24:49, 0:24:51]: Mr. Chair. Mr. Tibbell. [0:24:52, 0:24:57]: Uh at one time that area was supposed to be a overlay district of high rise buildings. [0:24:57, 0:25:03]: I noticed when I was reading they said they didn't have any other plans about that area. I know for a fact. [0:25:04, 0:25:07]: that that area was supposed to have been a high rise office building at one time. [0:25:08, 0:25:11]: Could you explain to the ordin the audience? [0:25:12, 0:25:14]: What is a actual overlay district for? [0:25:15, 0:25:15]: Okay. [0:25:16, 0:25:22]: So an overlay district is literally you have your base zoning which may be residential or commercial. [0:25:23, 0:25:36]: Um, an overlay is what you put more additional restrictions on top of which you see without actually adding it to the base zoning, the underlying zoning. So those regulations usually include architectural design, landscaping. [0:25:36, 0:25:51]: Um they could control additional uses as part of the overlay district or restrict certain types of uses as part of the overlay district. So it's just another layer of development re regulations on top of what's existing already. [0:25:52, 0:25:54]: And that's why they call it an ovally. [0:25:58, 0:26:07]: And yes, um the original plan had, as you see in the 2010 plan, had more office. As you know, COVID has changed the way of life as it relates to office. [0:26:07, 0:26:08]: Um [0:26:08, 0:26:20]: A lot of office space are now sitting vacant, Goax, Dunwoody and Sandy Springs, would their tax base gonna be impacted by vacant office buildings? Um, and they actually [0:26:20, 0:26:29]: had a article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution about the negative impacts on vacant office space that is gonna be impacting Sandy Springs and Dunwoody. [0:26:30, 0:26:31]: Um over the next year or two. [0:26:32, 0:26:36]: Um because not a lot of companies are now allowing their employees hybrid schedules. [0:26:36, 0:26:38]: А лот вам увольки 100%. [0:26:39, 0:26:52]: Um and so that's why the office you see there's been a downplay in office. Yes. Ten years ago I would have told you that this area was ripe for office development, or fifteen years ago, um that reality has changed a little bit. [0:26:55, 0:26:58]: All right, thank you. Any other questions from the board? [0:26:58, 0:26:59]: Yes, Mr. Plant. [0:26:59, 0:27:05]: I just have a question. Is it uh correct to assume that all this property is currently annexed into the city of Stockbridge? [0:27:05, 0:27:10]: All except um the portion below Holloway. [0:27:10, 0:27:13]: adjacent between Holloway and Jodoko. [0:27:13, 0:27:25]: It's not. It's recently been purchased by Mr. Patel. Mr. Patel is on board with this plan and will be annexing in his property within the near future. So all of it will eventually be in the city. [0:27:34, 0:27:35]: Anyone else? [0:27:37, 0:27:42]: I do need to ask, as we will not be voting on this tonight, do we open for public debate? [0:27:58, 0:28:03]: I think it's only fair. So I will ask if you would like to comment if you are for [0:28:04, 0:28:20]: Please line up to my right or your left. Make sure you sign in. If you are against, please line up to my left or your right. When you approach the podium, please make sure you state your name, state your address. Um speak into the microphone, please. [0:28:29, 0:28:49]: Good evening. Before you start the clock, your Anthony, correct? I am. Your name tag is No, that's okay. It was I was just kept wondering what was who was who. Sorry. Thank you. My name is Ann Fields. Um, just to speak briefly on the Patrick Henry Parkway development. [0:28:49, 0:28:50]: Okay. [0:28:51, 0:29:01]: Those of us that live in Eagles Crest, which is across the street from this development, the houses um that are in the existing development, which you can see. [0:29:01, 0:29:20]: the existing development is below the hospital. So all those homes that are on the right side of the the development proposed on the screen, those existing homes is Eagles Crest. So um I live there, I'm house number eight on Chase Marion Way. [0:29:20, 0:29:21]: And um [0:29:22, 0:29:25]: There's a I know the developments are gonna happen. [0:29:26, 0:29:46]: The 77 and 87 Holloway, I want to bring this up first because I'm sitting here with my jaw dropped. I opened a Publix Records request to get a copy of the finalized plan for that. It was closed, stating it was not prepared. However, during Main Street or the other daytime public meetings. [0:29:46, 0:29:52]: Meetings, one of the councilmen had said that plan was ready months ago in March and during the March meeting. [0:29:52, 0:30:03]: I have yet to see a finalized development plan for seventy seven eighty seven. And what is on the screen is not what was sent to us, is not what was discussed, is not what council voted on. [0:30:03, 0:30:20]: So now I'm even more concerned with what I'm gonna say about this. Num point number one being the entrances and exits of anything you build along Patrick Henry have to be considered very seriously. The Department of G D O T [0:30:21, 0:30:22]: has already stated [0:30:22, 0:30:23]: Excuse me. [0:30:24, 0:30:44]: Has already stated that they will not allow entrance and exit from Jodico because of the I-75 ramp. So immediately any property that is below the hallway down to Jodico could be developed, but you're pushing those people down in and then back out. [0:30:44, 0:31:04]: And we're very, very concerned about the Holloway intersection. I tried my hardest during the SPLOST meetings to get a roundabout considered for Holloway and uh Patrick Henry. That may end up as part of the overall development plan for the widening of the [0:31:04, 0:31:24]: The road, but it was not a separate consideration. Any traffic studies being done need to be done during the school year period, because the traffic to and from the school, morning and afternoon, is abominable and it's horribly dangerous. Entering and exiting hallway on [0:31:24, 0:31:31]: To Patrick Henry because of school traffic and the traffic that's already perusing Patrick Henry. [0:31:31, 0:31:39]: We haven't seen the worst of the traffic here because Costco development bridges is nowhere near done. That is going to [0:31:40, 0:32:00]: Probably quadruple or more the volume of traffic on Patrick Henry alone. All of those things need please need considered. We don't need to lose anyone's life, especially someone with a child in their car. Contingent upon any right-of-way for any development should be the fact that that land be donated for [0:32:00, 0:32:04]: for the widening of Patrick Henry if it already hasn't been acquired. [0:32:05, 0:32:25]: Um that would save any millions of dollars to go towards construction, um, design and construction from the SPLOST and T SPLOST funds. Um if you're going to approve multi-use and mixed use, you were just mentioning taking out the apartments as part of closing the first phase of this deal. [0:32:25, 0:32:45]: So that's kind of a big concern. If we're staying with mixed-use, multi-use, shouldn't we stick to that master plan? I'm very concerned about noise, fire protection, insects, and rodents, as they are paramount to our physical and mental health. And so we would want to have noise barriers, fire. [0:32:45, 0:33:05]: protection, proper placement of between buildings, um, all of those adequate things that won't drive one building to catch another on fire, and of course, insect control. And um as I mentioned, that property that's below hall um below Holloway has no exit onto Jodico. So [0:33:05, 0:33:09]: Please plan entrance and exit into this plan very, very carefully. Thank you. [0:33:10, 0:33:10]: Thank you. [0:33:16, 0:33:36]: My name's Connie Snow and I live at 426 Chase Marion Way. I also live in the Eagles Crest Subdivision and I second everything that Ann said. When we had meetings about this months ago, I'd brought up the school systems. We sit directly in front of Eagles Landing High School, Eagles Landing Middle School, and not very far from Flippin' Elementary. In fact, most [0:33:36, 0:33:53]: Most schools or most kids in the Eagles Landing Middle and High School walk to and from their homes that live in that area. So then we're gonna put all these extra apartments and homes right around that area where obviously those kids are gonna attend that school because it is in close walking distance. [0:33:53, 0:34:13]: And they're probably gonna walk because that's just what they're gonna do. That's what young teenage kids and middle school kids do, right? That road's not set up for'em. They're all gonna get hit. We're gonna have so many kids they're gonna be hit by cars because we're not planning proper uh properly. Additionally, there's so much little water resources and streams around the area. My neighborhood's already [0:34:13, 0:34:33]: Are already constantly flooding with the creek source that's right behind Eagles Landing High School. It floods quite a lot, so much so that my property is eradicating rapidly. The moment you guys keep cut cutting down these trees, that water's just gonna start flooding. And it's not only gonna flood Eagles Crest, it's gonna flood the surrounding homes around that area. It's gonna start [0:34:33, 0:34:45]: start to breach out across Jodeco and those homes over there. And it's eventually going to impact the Eagles Landing High School and Middle School area and their football fields. It's all going to be damped and wet and damaged. [0:34:45, 0:34:56]: It's not a properly planned development. And to piggyback off what Ann said, the renderings that we were given for both Patrick Henry and Holloway look drastically different than they do today. [0:34:57, 0:35:09]: It was listed on the site that the property owners were contacted. We were contacted months ago when this first started. But as we can all tell today, what we talked about and what we even disagreed on. [0:35:10, 0:35:17]: hasn't it it's been made differently, it's changed rapidly, and none of us have been consulted. And that's not fair to us as a community. [0:35:17, 0:35:37]: When I was here months ago and I brought up the school system to the mayor and the city council, and I told them that I was not only worried about the danger of our kids walking, I was worried about the increased crime rate. There's been multiple shootings in my neighborhood. Again, I sit directly behind the high school football field, so much so that the kids can walk. [0:35:37, 0:35:38]: From the football build. [0:35:38, 0:35:42]: through the the property that the school homes and ended up in my backyard. [0:35:43, 0:36:03]: We've had multiple shootings. The crime is gonna get so much worse. Our infrastructure is so poorly planned right now. This is not a good place for it. Because at the end of the day, while the businesses are getting rich and we think we're solving this shortage of homes, all we're doing is cramming stuff in in areas where it's poorly planned and it doesn't belong. [0:36:03, 0:36:03]: Okay. [0:36:04, 0:36:18]: This development does not belong here. This development will cause us to be terrible of our. And I beg of you to please do whatever you can to stop it. We deserve better in this county and whatever you guys can do to do what's right, not just for me. [0:36:19, 0:36:23]: But for our kids, because at the end of the day, the ultimate impact from that development. [0:36:23, 0:36:39]: is going to be our children. And there's not one person that sits on this board or the city that could deny that. The mayor told me at the last meeting that while he cared about kids, those two schools set on county property and it wasn't the city's problem. That was his exact words. [0:36:41, 0:36:43]: At what point do we care? Thank you. [0:36:44, 0:36:44]: Thank you. [0:36:53, 0:37:07]: I'm gonna just sit this on here. Hey y'all. Uh I was not really prepared to come, but then I saw the uh agenda for tonight, so I wanted to come. My name is Tina Corey and I live at 660 Chambers Road in McDonough, Georgia. [0:37:07, 0:37:11]: I've been a resident here for thirty five years and I'm the founder of Conserve Henry. [0:37:11, 0:37:15]: And I just wanted to point out a few things and I see a lot of friendly faces there, but [0:37:16, 0:37:18]: One of the things that I wanted to [0:37:18, 0:37:21]: to kind of share with you all is is the fact that [0:37:21, 0:37:29]: When you're looking at your future land use map and you see where we're gonna go and that's gonna be the future, a lot of things need to be taken into consideration. [0:37:29, 0:37:34]: And I know most of you probably had breakfast this morning. I know I did. I had bacon and eggs. [0:37:34, 0:37:54]: Next time that you look at a plate of bacon and eggs, I want you to think of two things. I want you to remember that for the chicken, that was a day's work. For the pig, that was a lifetime commitment. So when these things come up, and this is a result of um ARC and TSW, which is their planners, along with SB 612 that created. [0:37:54, 0:37:55]: Yeah. [0:37:55, 0:37:58]: Uh, when you look at that I want you to remember that for the [0:37:59, 0:38:11]: Developers and their attorneys, this is a day's work. They don't live here and they're not invested. For us here in the community, we live here, we're gonna stay here, we're invested here, and that's the commitment that's gonna be made for us to endure. [0:38:12, 0:38:26]: A couple of things I wanted to raise with you all is number one, I'll be perfectly honest with you. I'm really disappointed that there's nobody up there on that board that looks like me. Nobody on that board that looks like me. And that that's kind of a little [0:38:27, 0:38:29]: disconcerting that it's an all male board. [0:38:29, 0:38:36]: And nobody there to look out for family and children issues, nobody there to look out for racial racial and social issues. [0:38:36, 0:38:39]: Or conservation and education. [0:38:39, 0:38:42]: problems that we have right now in h in Henry County that I am [0:38:42, 0:38:43]: So in [0:38:43, 0:38:44]: You know, just [0:38:45, 0:38:45]: worried [0:38:46, 0:38:50]: Абин вот words can actually express is our schools and our education. [0:38:50, 0:39:09]: If you remember, hi uh uh Clayton County lost its accreditation. It took them several years to get their accreditation back. We are on that path now. These are the same developers from Clayton County that are now pushing what they want to push here, more apartments, more this, more that, while we have failing schools, and if we don't [0:39:09, 0:39:13]: Wake up and do something, we're gonna be going down that path. [0:39:13, 0:39:16]: And and all you have to do is turn on the paper and look at the news. [0:39:16, 0:39:22]: Also, I'm here because I have a nephew that was murdered in Hampton. His name is Fernando Rodriguez. [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: And that happened in twenty nineteen, and we've been waiting for justice for that. [0:39:26, 0:39:30]: We have a lot of issues in this county that need to be [0:39:30, 0:39:39]: taken into consideration and we need to start looking at collaborations and things like when you said you left out the education. I we should have an intergovernmental [0:39:39, 0:39:45]: relationship with all of the other agencies and especially with our children and family side of it that [0:39:46, 0:39:50]: You know, education not being the forefront and all these decisions made. [0:39:50, 0:39:53]: And I'm sorry, no more apartments. So back in the day [0:39:53, 0:39:54]: When [0:39:54, 0:39:59]: My children were little. I have four children that are grown and and three of them live here in Henry County. [0:39:59, 0:40:03]: Ан, а сев гранки. [0:40:03, 0:40:07]: So back in the day, our problem was I live on the other side of the interstate. [0:40:08, 0:40:14]: I worked so hard to get funding in the department of transportation for Henry County, for Jonesboro Road and for [0:40:15, 0:40:26]: Jodico Road because our problem was we had emergencies. We could not even get over to the hospital. So now now that we finally have some openings to be able to get to the hospital, and that's the only hospital that serves our county. [0:40:27, 0:40:31]: Наю блок, автор авtried со хар то опену апат то геть. [0:40:31, 0:40:42]: So that I have a son that's type one juvenile diabetic. We have other issues. I have aging parents or grandparents uh that were living with me at the time and you know that was a big concern. So [0:40:43, 0:41:02]: Pl please just, you know, I'm not saying anything about this development completely, but we're a family. We're all Henry County. And your land use map impacts Henry County's land use map and Hampton's land use map. And we just need to start to come together and start thinking about conserving Henry to make it better for those that are coming behind us. And I know that my children [0:41:02, 0:41:17]: want to stay here for a good county, but they don't want to stay here for a county that doesn't care about education. Who wants to put their kids in a failing school? So again, thank you. Look at SB six twelve. You'll see who benefits from that. And it's not the citizens of Henry County. Thank you. Thank you. [0:41:25, 0:41:37]: So as this was a city presentation and update, I did not ask if there was anyone from TSW consulting. So I'm going to make the assumption no one is here. So you went to Rabut or uh make any comments? You said from where? From the uh consulting group. [0:41:37, 0:41:57]: No, the consulting group was was hired by this by the city to do the work. They didn't propagate this on their own. This was something that they was asked to work in with us and connected with the landowners to come up with a master plan for the area, right? Um, so someone said that this is different from the plan that was. [0:41:57, 0:42:02]: approved. So I assume that everybody's getting this mix up with the piece of property that uh [0:42:03, 0:42:19]: pretty much wrap adjacent to um where Miss um Connie um lives, um which is that triangular piece. Um if you could see it on here, which is this. This is not included in this project. That's already been rezoned. [0:42:19, 0:42:24]: Um council resumed that last year. That's not part of this project. [0:42:24, 0:42:32]: Um so no, this is different from that. It's not the same thing that we changed it. I think that's a little confusing there. That's not the same thing. [0:42:32, 0:42:35]: Um, I do agree. Um [0:42:36, 0:42:40]: I have an eleven year old just left uh flipping elementary and is now at [0:42:41, 0:42:45]: Eagles Landing Middle School um as a sixth grader. [0:42:45, 0:42:50]: Uh my son attended Eagles Landon High School and Dutchtown High School and Dutchtown Middle School. [0:42:50, 0:42:52]: Um so I get it. [0:42:52, 0:42:55]: I'm vested here too, twenty five years in. [0:42:55, 0:42:59]: Um and my kids have gone through the school system and are going through the system. [0:43:00, 0:43:20]: Uh and so I understand the concerns and thank you, Victoria. I don't know if you remember me, but I remember when you were fighting for bike lanes in the county when I first got here. Um so yes, ma'am. So um and she knows we used to ask to put those as conditions on Zona and got them denied by the order of commissioners years ago. Um and unfortunately. [0:43:20, 0:43:28]: Unfortunate the work that she did, especially on Jodeco Road, where we have the bike lanes, they're now gone, unfortunate. You can't see them. Um [0:43:28, 0:43:39]: Right. Um, but we still have folks to traverse. So yes, um as it relates to um Costco having the impact and the traffic impact, I agree um that yes, [0:43:39, 0:43:45]: That intersection because I go that way once I leave Eaglesland in middle school. I come down and then I turn north on that road. [0:43:47, 0:43:51]: And yes, the traffic is you know it is bad. The school's traffic is bad on [0:43:52, 0:44:01]: tunest to begin with. Um, because you got people that don't adhere to the rules. Um, but as it relates to a traffic relief, I want everybody to remember that there is a [0:44:02, 0:44:07]: Western parallel connected, it will go from Hudson Bridge down to Jodeco Road. [0:44:07, 0:44:13]: Um one portion of that Chin Parkway is already constructed and the state is working on [0:44:14, 0:44:26]: getting the portion between Jodoko Road back to Hudson Bridge. If you haven't don't know where that is, if you go to Walmart right there at the McDonalds, [0:44:26, 0:44:38]: The Four Lean Road that just dead ends at the back of McDonald's, that's the road that's actually going to push all the way down to Jo to Jo Jonesboro Road. So there will be a western parallel um [0:44:39, 0:44:44]: that's coming through that would obviously believe and that start that phase starts construction I think next month. [0:44:45, 0:44:47]: Um so that'll be on the way. [0:44:47, 0:44:53]: So that'll be some relief so you won't have a lot of traffic coming directly to Costco from that area, they'll come down on the other side. [0:44:54, 0:44:54]: Um [0:44:55, 0:45:15]: Yes, we need to look at the intersection and that's something that I think she mentioned about a roundabout and yeah, and that would be helpful if we could make that work. Definitely I think it makes sense, um, as part of the deal. Um, no, there is no access point uh that we've looked at because it doesn't make any sense to put a access point between [0:45:15, 0:45:19]: The northbound interchange and Jo and Patrick Henry on Jodeco. [0:45:20, 0:45:21]: G Dot won't approve one. [0:45:22, 0:45:27]: Um and it doesn't make any sense because at that point where this property is, it's the actual [0:45:27, 0:45:34]: taper lane to get onto the interstate from there and that doesn't make any sense to put traffic going there because the only place you could go is on the interstate. [0:45:35, 0:45:51]: So no one's that's bad transportation planning. I think if you look clearly at what we propose here, a lot of uh you know, and this isn't the final it'll hopefully be the won't be the final, but a lot of interior movements to allow for a lot of the traffic to stay inside. Um, as it relates to students walk into school. [0:45:52, 0:45:55]: I don't know how many kids are gonna walk a mile. [0:45:55, 0:46:07]: Um literally from this product pr development down Patrick Henry down up Holloway and up Tunis. Um they're probably gonna catch a bus for the kids that are actually coming out of here. Um [0:46:09, 0:46:29]: Because there are some kids that do walk and I see them in the morning, um, that live on Tunis and some that live on Holloway. Some of the older kids. Um, as it relates to ARC, um, pushing this, um I've been a cine planner for almost thirty five years, um, also certified. [0:46:29, 0:46:34]: nationally through the American Institute of Certified Planners. This is something we call [0:46:35, 0:46:37]: Good planning for the standpoint of [0:46:38, 0:46:43]: We offset development going out more into Kelly town, where we do have. [0:46:43, 0:46:46]: environ more way more environmentally sensitive areas. [0:46:47, 0:46:47]: Um [0:46:48, 0:46:49]: Right. Um [0:46:49, 0:47:00]: by allowing this to happen and not to be spreading out at one acre lots or three quarter acre lots. And I always tell folks if you pull back on the Google Earth and look at Henry County. [0:47:01, 0:47:05]: Alright, all you see is single family developments everywhere. [0:47:06, 0:47:10]: Right. And if you move to Henry County like I did in two thousand? [0:47:10, 0:47:12]: I was part of the problem. [0:47:13, 0:47:14]: Why? [0:47:14, 0:47:17]: Henry County started growing in nineteen ninety four. [0:47:18, 0:47:19]: We've got a lot of developments coming in. [0:47:20, 0:47:23]: The crust of that started when they built Eagles Landing Country Club. [0:47:24, 0:47:26]: I'd put Henry County on the map. Since then, she's right. [0:47:27, 0:47:30]: А ремонта ту ленс от Его'на День. А до ремонта ту ленс. [0:47:31, 0:47:36]: Across the interstate at Jodico Road. I do remember the two lanes at Jonesboro Road. [0:47:36, 0:47:43]: Right. Um, I was here for that, and I was here watching ambulance having to go up on the sidewalk to go around cars because it was only two lanes. [0:47:44, 0:47:44]: Um [0:47:45, 0:47:51]: I was here when twenty eighty one was improved and now it's improved again. It's a diverging diamond. So in the last twenty five years. [0:47:51, 0:47:53]: I watched that roadway change twice. [0:47:54, 0:48:10]: Right. Um and now we're proposing another interchange down at Bethlehem Road. So yes, unfortunate. Um unlike Texas, Georgia doesn't allow for the infrastructure to be built ahead of time with nothing on it. We tend to be lagging behind. [0:48:11, 0:48:12]: Um I literally spent [0:48:13, 0:48:33]: a week in Dallas metro area and was wondering where all these roads go to because there was nothing on'em. Um and then the guy painted the picture for me that this is come what's coming will come to this and we won't have to retroactively fix it. I wish we could get to that point. Um but unfortunately we've lagged behind, schools have lagged behind here as well. Um [0:48:34, 0:48:36]: As a release to noise and fire protection. [0:48:37, 0:48:42]: You know, anything that's built has to be built to code. That code is controlled by um [0:48:42, 0:49:00]: International Code Congress, which is adopted by the Department of Community Affairs and all adop all associated communities adopt the ICC building and property maintenance codes um and fire protection codes. We have to adhere to those. Um so we can't bill without adhering to those standards. Um [0:49:00, 0:49:20]: The right-of-patrick Henry already exists for the most part, as I mentioned. 90% of that is already in place. Um and hopefully, yes, we're as we work with the development, the goal is to offset the cost on the impact on this plus by allowing the developer to put in at least 50% of the costs towards the road improvement. That way, Henry County. [0:49:20, 0:49:23]: And Stockbridge only puts in twenty five twenty five. [0:49:23, 0:49:41]: Plus there's fifty equals a hundred percent. Uh and that's discussions that'll be ongoing as we go through the process. Um I think that was some of the concerns on the infrastructure addressed at schools. Um obviously, you know, the quality our schools, and I always say this. [0:49:41, 0:49:45]: I actually spent two years being a school teacher after gradu undergraduate school. [0:49:46, 0:49:49]: Failing schools are dependent on failing parents. [0:49:50, 0:49:50]: Period. [0:49:52, 0:49:54]: Right. I remember working in the city of Griffin. [0:49:55, 0:49:56]: as their development director. [0:49:57, 0:50:06]: And people did not want their kids to go to Griffin High School. But you know what's one of the number one schools for putting kids in the service academy of the United States of America? [0:50:07, 0:50:07]: Griffin High School. [0:50:08, 0:50:11]: So explain to me how those kids can literally [0:50:11, 0:50:16]: Get the GPA and the necessary academic skills to qualify to go to. [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: The Air Force Academy, West Point. [0:50:19, 0:50:20]: The Naval Academy. [0:50:21, 0:50:22]: Coming from a failing school. [0:50:23, 0:50:25]: Failing kids are because of failing parents. [0:50:26, 0:50:27]: Period. [0:50:28, 0:50:37]: I'm a parent of two. My fourteen year old, when he was fourteen, he's now twenty-three, did not go outside at night. I know exactly where he was. My eleven year old does not traverse around the street. [0:50:38, 0:50:40]: Because I'm a concerned parent. [0:50:41, 0:50:58]: Right. So I think we need to put the onus where it is. So on poor parenting or poor parents. Um so if you put it in, your kid could go to any failing school and still succeed. You know why? Because if you put the time into your kid and your kid put the time into the work, they'll succeed. [0:50:59, 0:50:59]: Right. [0:50:59, 0:51:00]: Um I'm a product of that. [0:51:02, 0:51:03]: So I could speak to that. [0:51:03, 0:51:10]: And I think my kid could speak to that, who finished Wesleyan University and now working for a major firm in the Washington DC area. [0:51:10, 0:51:11]: Graduated from Eagles Landing High School. [0:51:12, 0:51:13]: Twenty eighteen. [0:51:14, 0:51:16]: got an appointment to United States Naval Academy. [0:51:18, 0:51:19]: But chose to play soccer. [0:51:19, 0:51:21]: At a small school in North Carolina. [0:51:21, 0:51:22]: Right. [0:51:22, 0:51:23]: Came from Eagles Line High School. [0:51:24, 0:51:24]: So [0:51:25, 0:51:28]: What you put into your kids is what you get out. You put zero, you get zero out. [0:51:29, 0:51:33]: Um, development don't control educational attainment. Never has. [0:51:33, 0:51:38]: Um, but we still have to look at that, right? Um, and account for it. [0:51:39, 0:51:59]: So this is still in the planning stage. Um we're working, hopefully like I said, this is not for you guys to vote on tonight. Our goal is to kind of give you guys what's coming. We did this presentation before the um city council back in November. Um we presented this to um the board of commissioners, uh some of the board and the staff to review. [0:51:59, 0:52:13]: and got their feedback. Um and so with that not asking for a vote and we'll make the necessary changes, we'll address some of the concerns. Um because I do know that that intersection is a concern that Holloway and at Holloway and um [0:52:14, 0:52:20]: And Patrick Henry, as well as Holloway and Tunis, which is a bad left hand turn. [0:52:21, 0:52:30]: if you go into the schools. Um and so at that I will end and uh we'll make uh keep these comments so we'll make necessary changes as and then [0:52:30, 0:52:36]: At some point we'll bring bringing this back to the planning commission um to actually take action on and take more comments. [0:52:37, 0:52:38]: All right, thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [0:52:39, 0:52:47]: Okay. As this is a non voting item, we've got a lot of ground to cover. Um unless the board has anything else they'd like to ask, I think we'll we'll move on. [0:52:50, 0:52:56]: Okay. Ms. Logan, could you repeat item two for me again? You made a comment earlier, it's been a while. [0:53:01, 0:53:13]: Two, um it was adoption of new land use and zoning maps for City of Stockbridge. The planning and zoning office needs um needs to conduct further research on this. [0:53:14, 0:53:19]: Okay, understood. Did we require a vote to pass on this? [0:53:25, 0:53:27]: and two it was advertised for [0:53:29, 0:53:30]: Yeah. [0:53:31, 0:53:31]: Mm-hmm. [0:53:33, 0:53:34]: We do. I think. [0:53:41, 0:53:41]: Okay. [0:53:45, 0:53:51]: No, no, I think we can if we can pass. That's what we can do. We want to remove it from tonight's agenda. [0:53:52, 0:53:57]: Okay. Do I have a motion from uh the board to remove from the agenda? [0:53:58, 0:54:09]: Chair. Motion to move item number two adoption of the new the new land use and zoning maps for the city of Stockbridge to uh for a meeting in in the future. [0:54:09, 0:54:16]: I'll second it to Harrell. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passes. [0:54:23, 0:54:30]: Okay, the next case is CP two zero two four four four four four zero one. I'll read this into the record. This is council district five. [0:54:30, 0:54:50]: Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request to change the future land use designation of property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprising parcel zero three two dash zero one zero two six zero zero zero from medium density mixed use to medium density residential to allow for the construction of a townhome development. The applicant is Lonaire, Georgia. [0:54:50, 0:55:01]: L L C the agent is battle law PC. The property is located in land lot twenty one of District Six. It contains twenty point three six seven acres. Um mister Lighton, I'll let you present, please. [0:55:03, 0:55:15]: All right, thank you Vice Chair. Um these are the presentations for CP twenty four dash zero one and R C twenty four dash zero one and VR twenty four dash zero three. [0:55:17, 0:55:37]: As mentioned, the applicant is Lenard Georgia, represented by Battle Law, and the owner is Mount Zion 48 LLC, and the number of proposed units per acre is 6.87 units per acre. The address of the property is located around Hudson Bridge Drive with a total number of acres of 20.367. [0:55:37, 0:55:56]: Um as far as the project characteristics, it's vacant and is mostly wooded, with the eastern portion of the site that contains steep topography, wetlands with a twenty five state buffer, fifty foot stream buffer, and a seventy five impervious setback as part of a nearby stream. And it also includes a portion of Hudson Bridge Drive which was granted to Eastement. [0:55:57, 0:56:05]: The current future land use designation is medium density mixed use with the current zoning of C two, and the sign was posted on july sixteenth. [0:56:10, 0:56:13]: This is the aerial photo of the subject property. [0:56:26, 0:56:28]: And this is the arrow. [0:56:28, 0:56:29]: Aero photo with a side plan. [0:56:30, 0:56:36]: And the area is surrounded by Walmart shopping, the center, the shopping plaza, which is over here. [0:56:37, 0:56:47]: And Taco Bell. The property is also adjacent to the Oakwood Manor, which is Henry right here in Henry County, and the St Ives apartment, which is above here. [0:56:50, 0:57:03]: This is a street view of the southwest corner of the site on the left side. Uh although you can't really see, that's Taco Bell. And this is the site right here. And this part right here is the uh shopping plaza. [0:57:05, 0:57:10]: And if you drive further up, this is the site and then this is to Walmart along with the shopping plaza. [0:57:13, 0:57:15]: The property and zone and history. [0:57:16, 0:57:36]: So the subject property was originally part of the master development plan, center of Stockbridge, with Walmart as a mixed use mixed use development for a total of 70.16 acres. The property was annexed by the city of Stockbridge in 2002, with the subject site as being part of the master plan as track two. Tracks one and two were [0:57:36, 0:57:50]: were annexed as C two and C three. And then tracks one and two were further subdivided on February fourth, twenty twenty four, which created a new tract, and that became Walmart. The real t the track two would become a standalone [0:57:52, 0:58:12]: Parcel for future development. The master development plan initially allowed the subject sites to have access from Hudson Bridge Road, but the art parcels were later created and this removed the site access to Hudson Bridge Road. A DRI was completed on the master development plan, including the subject site on November twenty first, twenty two. [0:58:12, 0:58:30]: two thousand three and a development agreement was prepared. And according to the DRI, the site shall be mixed use and contain a minimum of two hundred residential units and a maximum of three hundred and forty three thousand square feet of commercial retail space. However, DRI officials stated that DRI conditions have no effect after ten years. [0:58:33, 0:58:53]: In addition, there was a partial split with the East Mint creation, and that was by Wolverton and Associates of Duluth, Georgia. And that was part of the final subdivision plat for uh the Broad Street Stockbridge LLC. It showed that the subject property, which is shown here, was split into two tracks with track one representing the conversation. [0:58:53, 0:59:13]: Current boundaries of site and track two being cut off from the site. This resulted in track one using this access from Hudson Bridge Drive. However, ten easements were created along and adjacent to Hudson Bridge Drive, which included an easement to allow a portion of Hudson Drive, which is a private street, and which is actually contained within the boundaries of the subject site to be used. [0:59:13, 0:59:16]: by the public for access to the surrounding commercial properties. [0:59:18, 0:59:25]: And it says the Hudson Bridge Drive is located within the site boundaries. It's confirmed today by the aerial photo of the site from the Henry County tax assistance. [0:59:28, 0:59:35]: As far as the development information, the applicant is proposing to build one hundred and forty town homes [0:59:35, 0:59:55]: One hundred and one forty small units and thirty-nine large units with six point eight seven units per acre. Forty one percent of the site area will be designated as open space with forty-one parking spaces being provided. A swimming pool, clubhouse, and guest parking would be provided as well. A twenty five foot buffer [0:59:56, 1:00:06]: will be provided on the western boundary and a fifty foot undisturbed stream buffer will be designated on the western boundary. In addition, the smaller units will have one car garage [1:00:08, 1:00:11]: And the larger town home building will have two car garages. [1:00:15, 1:00:35]: And as far as the traffic impact study, this traffic impact study was prepared by SCI Engineering Inc. and Akinpora Traffic, which stated that acceptable traffic conditions were found at all the traffic count locations. The traffic study also projected that the proposed townhomes would generate 1016 trips. [1:00:35, 1:00:40]: per weekday including sixty seven in the morning and eighty trips in the afternoon. [1:00:44, 1:00:47]: And this is the proposed side plan. [1:00:53, 1:00:57]: And this is the smaller town home buildings, which is twenty feet wide with one car garages. [1:01:01, 1:01:05]: And this is the larger town home buildings, which is twenty four feet wide with two car garages. [1:01:09, 1:01:29]: And as far as the townhoundhome lot details, all 140 townhomes will be 100 feet deep. And there will be 101 larger yachts lots, 71% of the total, and 39 lots. The larger townhome units will be twenty-four feet wide and have two car garages, while the smaller townhome units would have would be twenty feet wide and have [1:01:29, 1:01:30]: Mone car garages. [1:01:32, 1:01:36]: Which goes into the presentation for the CP twenty four dash zero one. [1:01:39, 1:01:59]: And the applicant is requesting a comp plan amendment to change the subject property's future land use designation from medium density mixed use to medium density residential, which will allow for the construction of the 140 Channel Home Development. The current land use designation of medium density is compatible with the applicant's requested result. [1:01:59, 1:02:08]: Of the property to MFR. And in addition, the current landing destination of medium mix is incompatible with the applicant's request resulting of the property, MFR. [1:02:10, 1:02:13]: And this is the future land use map. The [1:02:15, 1:02:21]: The area is surrounded by medium density on the left side, which is Henry County, high density mixed use. [1:02:22, 1:02:27]: Which is over here, and high density residential, which is down here, with in in orange. [1:02:30, 1:02:33]: And these are the surrounding land use designations as mentioned. [1:02:34, 1:02:54]: You have property to the north, which is St. Ives, high density residential, along with the St. Margaret subdivisions, and you have property to the south, which is medium density mixed use, and high density residential for the Hudson Bridge townhomes. And the properties to the east, you have the Jason Shopping Center with medium density mixed use, and the property to the west, which is the Oakwood Village Center. [1:02:54, 1:03:00]: Subdivision, medium density residential, and along with the Oakwood Manor Subdivision, which is also medium density residential. [1:03:03, 1:03:16]: And the surrounding this is the surrounding land use destiny range. The ranges from one to four and a half units per acre. Therefore the six point seven eight six point eight seven units per acre is acceptable. [1:03:18, 1:03:38]: And the key points from the staff analysis is that it's consistent with the current comp plan, 24 to 28 comp plan, and will be compatible with the MDR MDR medium density residential, which is the Oakwood Manor Subdivision. And it's unlikely that the type of uses on the current medium density mixed. [1:03:38, 1:03:39]: This will be developed. [1:03:44, 1:03:48]: And staff recommends approval for the comp plan. C P twenty four dash zero one. [1:03:54, 1:04:14]: Gordon, before you go on, let me go ahead and read the rezoning into the record, please. So that's item four on everyone's uh notes here. So this is RZ-2024-01. Rezoning case, RZ two zero two four zero one to be located in council district five. Consideration of requests to rezone the property on the north side of [1:04:14, 1:04:22]: Heights and Bridge Drive comprising parcel zero three two dash zero. Uh could you read both the resultant and the variance to into the record? [1:04:22, 1:04:23]: Yes, I will. [1:04:24, 1:04:27]: You're speaking of item five, the variants? Okay. [1:04:31, 1:04:51]: Again, comprising parcel number 032-010-2600 from C2, General Commercial Zoning District to MFR, multiple family residential zoning district to allow for the construction of a townhome development. The property also lies within the PMU, which is the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. [1:04:51, 1:05:11]: The applicant again is Lanier Georgia LLC agent as battle law PC. The property is located in line lot twenty-one of District 6, contains 20.367 acres. And again, per request, we'll go ahead and read item five, which is the variance case. Number VR 2024-03. [1:05:11, 1:05:31]: Also to be located in Council District 5. Variance request number one, consideration of a variance request for two variances on property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprising parcel number 032-010-2600 to allow for the construction of a townhome development. [1:05:31, 1:05:41]: Variance request number one would reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the required fifty feet to twenty feet. The property also lies within the PMU. [1:05:42, 1:05:56]: which is the uh Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. The applicant again is Lanier Georgia. LLC Asian is Battle Law PC. The property again is located in landlot twenty-one of district six and contains twenty point three six seven acres. [1:05:58, 1:06:02]: All right. Thank you. Okay. Go ahead. Thank you. All right. [1:06:07, 1:06:09]: So item number [1:06:12, 1:06:13]: Shall we read six? [1:06:13, 1:06:14]: Okay. [1:06:16, 1:06:36]: Item six is also variance, variance case VR two zero two four-zero three to be located in Council District Five. Variance request number two, consideration of a variance request for two variances on property on the north side of Hutchin Bridge Drive comprising parcel number zero three two-one zero. [1:06:36, 1:06:56]: 26000 to allow for the construction of a townhome development. Variants request number two would reduce the side yard setbacks of the townhome lots between buildings from the required 15 to 10 feet. The property also lies within the PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. The applicant again is Lanier Georgia. LLC, the agent is Battle Law PC. [1:06:56, 1:07:02]: The property is located in landlot twenty-one of District Six and contains twenty point three six seven acres. [1:07:04, 1:07:05]: Thank you. Thank you. [1:07:07, 1:07:10]: So this is the presentation for R Z twenty four dash zero one. [1:07:12, 1:07:22]: With the applicants applicants request to rezone the property from C two, General Commercial, to MFR to allow for the townhome development with one hundred and forty units. [1:07:25, 1:07:31]: So this is the twenty-four um the zoning map. The area is surrounded by C two. [1:07:33, 1:07:43]: C three, MFR, which is the St. Ives, and the Hudson Bridge Townhomes, RM, which is residential multifamily, the Oakwood subdivision, [1:07:44, 1:07:50]: Manor and R D Residential Duplex, which is also the Oqu Oak Manor. [1:07:55, 1:07:59]: And this is the overlay district map which shows the property being located in it. [1:08:03, 1:08:23]: And the key points from the staff report that we analyzed. Um overall it's consistent with the twenty point four comp plan. And as far as the positive effects, um the business in the surrounding area could generate revenue from the townhome development. Residents will have convenient access to the adjacent commercial areas. [1:08:26, 1:08:43]: A twenty five foot buffer, fence, and tall trees shall be provided along the western property line to prevent the Oakwood Manor Subdivision and a secondary access at the northwest corner onto Oakwood Drive should be used for emergency access only with a lock gate. [1:08:45, 1:08:50]: And that water could be made available with sewer line extension, which the developer would need to fund. [1:08:58, 1:09:18]: And staff staff recommends approve approval with conditions for RC twenty-four-zero one. The first one is the comprehensive plan amendment. The requested this requested resilience shall not be approved unless the applicant requested comprehensive plan via 24-01 to change the subject property. [1:09:18, 1:09:38]: Land new designation from medium density mixed use to medium density residential is approved before or simultaneously with the approval of RZ24-01. The site plan A. The subject property shall be developed according to a revised site plan, which is similar to but including required variants. [1:09:38, 1:09:58]: To the site plan, which was prepared by Moore Bass Consultant on February 29th, 2024, representing sheet number A135510.010 SP1. The title is Hudson Bridge Townhome, Stockbridge, Georgia. Any major deviations in the number of residential units. [1:09:57, 1:10:02]: The density or the overall site design shall require City Council approval. [1:10:03, 1:10:23]: B. The site access This shall be a gated community with both site accesses having gates plus flop cameras for security purposes. In addition, the proposed secondary access to Oakwood Drive shall be reserved for use by emergency vehicles only. All this information shall be noted. [1:10:23, 1:10:43]: on a side plan. C. Internal streets. All internal streets shall be of widths that are acceptable to the fire marshal. D. Internal sidewalks. All internal streets shall have sidewalks on both sides of the streets, which are at least eight feet wide. E. Amenities and related facilities. [1:10:43, 1:11:03]: The revised site plan shall include a male kiosk, an eight foot wide multi use path or walking trail, and a dog park, plus appropriate additional amenities for a community of this size such as a grill area, a playground, a shuffleboard court, a tennis court, a pickleball court, etc. [1:11:03, 1:11:23]: F central trash facility. The revised site plan shall include the location of one or more central trash facilities. G bedroom information The revised site plan shall provide a breakdown of the number of units by the number of bedrooms as well as the sizes of the bedrooms for parking hours. [1:11:23, 1:11:43]: Parking space requirements. H. Parking. Sufficient parking shall be provided to meet the requirements of the Unified Development Code. I Western Buffer Fence and Talk Trees. The developers shall provide the required 25-foot zoning buffer along the western side of the property adjacent to the Oakwood. [1:11:42, 1:11:47]: Wood Manor Subdivision along with the installation of a fence and tall trees. [1:11:49, 1:12:00]: Three, one car garage townhome units. A. Only twenty percent of the townhome units shall have one car garages. B all one car garages shall have full brick elevations. [1:12:01, 1:12:21]: Four, external sidewalk. The existing sidewalk along Hudson Bridge Drive shall be extended into the main project entrance. Five, water and sewer facilities. The developers shall comply with all requirements of the Henry County Water Authority in providing adequate water and sewer facilities to the subject site. [1:12:21, 1:12:24]: To assert the proposed town home development. [1:12:25, 1:12:45]: Six, environmental site preservation. The developers shall preserve the sensitive environmental features of the site, including the slopes, creeks, stream buff areas, and a retaining wall along with the eastern side of the site. Seven, easements. The developers shall comply with the specifications of the [1:12:45, 1:13:03]: of all easement agreements pertaining to the portion of Hudson Bridge Drive, which lies with, within, and adjacent to the subject property. And eight, a townhomes association shall be established or a property management company shall be secured for the purpose of maintaining all common areas of the site. [1:13:08, 1:13:12]: And this is the presentation for VR twenty four Dash Zero three. [1:13:14, 1:13:31]: The applicant has submitted a variance application to request a reduction in the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the MFR's district required fifty feet to twenty feet, and to reduce the side yard setbacks between townhome buildings from the required twenty feet to ten feet. [1:13:34, 1:13:43]: So the required versus the proposed setbacks and the request is MFR districts. So these are the MFR setback requirements, which you can see on the left side. [1:13:45, 1:14:00]: And the proposed setbacks, which is in the front yard setback and the side yard setback, and was the rear yard setback. So the front yard setback does not meet the MFR requirements along with with the side yard setbacks, while the rear yard setback does. [1:14:05, 1:14:05]: Let's see. [1:14:11, 1:14:17]: And the staff analysis. So section ten point one three of the Union Development Code for variance request one. [1:14:23, 1:14:38]: So the as far as the quest for the first one, the property the key points from the staff analysis was that the property has a unique shape with creek wetlands and a large drop off in the southeast, which makes the areas unbuildable, resulting in the fewer proposed units. [1:14:40, 1:14:52]: There is no apparent reason for re granting a front yard setback reduction down to twenty feet and it won't be compatible with the single family neighboring properties in the West, which is the Oakwood Manor. [1:14:53, 1:15:05]: And the physical physical characteristics, which are the creek, floodplain, and step steep topography, are not the results of the applicant, but it doesn't justify a reduction of the front yard setback. [1:15:07, 1:15:17]: And the fourth, um this will be greater than any other deduction previously granted for other properties, and that will therefore be a sp special privilege. [1:15:22, 1:15:40]: And as far as the request number two, um the stopridge city council has approved SAD setback reduction in the past five years, but the applicant hasn't demonstrated the necessit n necessity for such reduction. And without granting the variants, the land could still be used for building a smaller townhome development with larger [1:15:42, 1:15:43]: But fewer autonomous units. [1:15:45, 1:15:55]: And no apparent re there will be no apparent reason for granting a side yard reduction from fifteen to ten feet. The reduction of only five feet is not as significant. [1:15:56, 1:16:16]: So as far as the staff recommendation, the first variance request number one, the denial of the app denial of the applicants to reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the required fifty feet to only twenty feet in the MFR zoning district, and B the approval of the reduction in the front yard setbacks of the town. [1:16:16, 1:16:27]: Thomas Home Lots to thirty feet. And as far as the second variance request, that will be approved of this request to reduce the side yard setbacks from the required fifteen feet to ten feet to proposed townhome lots. [1:16:31, 1:16:33]: And that would clear the presentation for the first case. [1:16:37, 1:16:38]: Thank you. [1:16:40, 1:16:53]: Okay, with that I'd like to ask if there's any representation from uh Lanaire Georgia or their agent, Bell L S C. If you would please step forward. State your name and your address, please. [1:17:00, 1:17:08]: Good evening. My name is Josh Mahoney and I'm an attorney at Battle Law PC. Address three five six two Habisham at North Lake in Tucker, Georgia. [1:17:08, 1:17:09]: You all hear me okay? [1:17:10, 1:17:25]: Excellent. It's great to see you all this evening. I'm really happy to be here to discuss this proposal with you all. This property has kind of a storied history, I think. Originally this property was part of the DRI. [1:17:25, 1:17:37]: That went along with Walmart. And this piece of property in particular was meant to be the residential portion of that overall development, with Walmart being the commercial anchor. [1:17:38, 1:17:48]: And this parcel being the residential support uh that would go along to help the Walmart and what would as we know become the surrounding commercial uses. [1:17:49, 1:18:09]: Unfortunately, to this day, it does remain vacant. However, our application is seeking to capitalize on that vision and bring it to fruition. And so what we've done is we've submitted a future land use amendment, rezoning, and a couple of variances to try to to make that plan happen. [1:18:09, 1:18:22]: We're submitting a future land use amendment from medium density mixed use to medium density residential, a rezoning from C two to MFR, and variances to reduce some setbacks, as uh the planning staff have pointed out. [1:18:23, 1:18:43]: Um I'm sure you're all aware of the location of this property just west of Walmart and north of the Taco Bell behind QT on Hudson Bridge. Um this is a property that that I have driven past growing up in the area and never really paid attention to it because it looked like a bunch of trees. Um but it's interesting to see, it's interesting. [1:18:43, 1:19:00]: interesting to see the history of this and and how it was a part of Walmart's um DRI process. So zooming in first on the rezoning application, um this is this is an image of Stockbridge's uh zoning map. [1:19:01, 1:19:10]: And as you can see, the property is currently zoned C2. Um the property is zoned C2, but it's also adjacent to some single-family homes. And so [1:19:11, 1:19:26]: What's allowed today is much more intense than what we're proposing. Um anyone, a commercial developer, could come along and put up a a C2 use next to the existing single family homes. And we don't feel that that is an appropriate [1:19:26, 1:19:27]: Um [1:19:28, 1:19:40]: kind of use to butt up against single family detached. What we propose instead is a what's a pretty common practice across the nation, a transition from the intense commercial uses to the East. [1:19:40, 1:19:41]: Down to [1:19:41, 1:19:58]: uh town homes or something like that, like what we're proposing, into the less intense single family detached homes. And what you get here is a ramping down of uses, um, but you're still kind of addressing the need for housing um to fuel that commercial node. [1:20:00, 1:20:18]: Um luckily for us, there's already some MFR zoning districts in the area immediately to the north of the subject property and south of the subject property across Hudson Bridge Road. So we're not introducing a new zoning district to the area. We're just continuing the trend that is on this uh western portion of the city. [1:20:21, 1:20:38]: Looking now at the future land use map, we are proposing uh medium density residential. Again, we've got high density residential already in the area, so we're not bringing anything more intense than what's already there. Uh just need to switch that out so that the MFR district is compatible. [1:20:40, 1:20:43]: We talked about the site plan already with the planning staff. [1:20:43, 1:20:45]: Um some things I do want to point out. [1:20:47, 1:20:48]: You can really start to see [1:20:50, 1:21:10]: On the on the um this is actually the eastern side of the property, it's flipped on its side here. Uh there's a stream that runs along the length of the property, and with the stream comes a stream buffer, 75 feet on either side of the stream from the point of rested vegetation, 150 feet total. That eats up a lot of [1:21:10, 1:21:27]: a lot of this property um and taking into account that piece plus the topography of the site and the strange shape of the site, it really makes it a difficult property to develop, which is probably why it's remained vacant for so long. [1:21:27, 1:21:33]: Um considering it's zoned commercially as well, it's probably also c a contributing factor to its vacancy. [1:21:34, 1:21:46]: Um but this plan uses the available space and uses it uh to bring about that the vision that was put forth under the Walmart DRI. Uh we are at this time proposing a clubhouse. [1:21:47, 1:21:47]: Pool [1:21:48, 1:21:50]: And a playground. [1:21:54, 1:22:04]: Here we've got some renderings. This is this is a um aerial rendering of what the site will look like, as well as a rendering of what the pool area will look like behind the clubhouse. [1:22:07, 1:22:27]: Top left here is a rendering of the of the clubhouse from the front. And we've got some updated elevations and um updated since the last time we were able to to speak to the staff. Um so what you see on the bottom here are the two car garage units, and on the top right here are what the one car garage uh units are gonna look like. [1:22:30, 1:22:31]: And then last but not least [1:22:33, 1:22:41]: I have a fly through video for you all to to take a look at. This will be kind of what it's like to drive through the community. Uh we'll see if it plays for us. [1:22:45, 1:22:45]: Mm-hmm. [1:22:51, 1:22:59]: It may be that we have to go without the video this evening, but I'm happy to share that with you all should you like to see it. I have it on my computer and I can forward that to you after this meeting. [1:23:00, 1:23:04]: I'd like to take a moment since that's the end of my oh, here we go. We got it. [1:23:06, 1:23:17]: So this is kind of what it would look like if you have the just off screen here the um clubhouse. So this is what it would be like to come into the subdivision here. Excuse me, the neighborhood here. [1:23:31, 1:23:51]: So the developer is using kind of a mixture of facades to break up the unit so you can tell one from the other. I know in some townhome communities that is an issue where you have a kind of monotonous cookie cutter look. Uh it doesn't look good. Um so we're using a mixture of materials, colors, things like that to break up that. [1:23:51, 1:24:03]: That monotony that you might get, and also using a mixture of high-quality materials like brick and board and batten. Here's the clubhouse, coming at it from the side, like as if you were going to the pool. [1:24:10, 1:24:13]: And then of course here's the pool that the folks will be able to enjoy. [1:24:24, 1:24:44]: So I'm actually gonna pause the video there. I'd like to take my remaining time to try to address some of the conditions that staff mentioned in their report. Um for the most part, my client does accept um the conditions. However, there are a few that are pain points for us that we do need to discuss. [1:24:44, 1:24:45]: Um [1:24:46, 1:25:02]: One is that the planning staff are requiring that we have centralized trash receptacles. That won't be necessary. We're actually going to use curb pickup. So each unit will have a uh big green bin that they can put at the curb and that'll be picked up. So there's no need for a centralized facility. [1:25:05, 1:25:07]: Um the other pain point for us is [1:25:08, 1:25:28]: Uh per the conditions, we're being required to have eight-foot wide sidewalks throughout the internal on the internal streets of the development. This is above and beyond what the code requires. The code requires five-foot sidewalks, and we are happy to supply five-foot sidewalks throughout the entirety. Uh it wasn't really made clear why we are being asked. [1:25:28, 1:25:48]: Asked to do eight-foot wide sidewalks when we're already cramped for space and asking for variances to make more space. I'm not sure. I know that we're not able to accommodate an eight-foot-wide sidewalk, but what we can do is towards the front of the development where the clubhouse would connect into Hudson Bridge Drive, we could put an eight-foot [1:25:48, 1:25:59]: sidewalk there so folks would when they're traveling from the clubhouse up to Walmart would have a big, nice, wide sidewalk that they could enjoy that would include widening the existing sidewalk. [1:26:00, 1:26:01]: On Hudson Bridge Drive. [1:26:03, 1:26:15]: Uh lastly, there was a condition that was um asking that only twenty percent of the townhomes be one car garage uh and that they be full brick facades. [1:26:17, 1:26:35]: If we were to abide by that kit condition per the language, we would lose so many units that the the deal would would die essentially. So that's not something that we can do. What we can do though is we can do three sided brick on the one side on the one car garage units, uh, but we can't do the the percentage piece. [1:26:39, 1:26:51]: Um but with that I ask that you all would consider uh approving, recommending approval of these applications this evening. Uh I'm happy to take any questions and I'll reserve any time I have uh for rebuttal. Thank you. [1:26:56, 1:27:05]: Any questions from the board? May I speak chairman? Yes, go ahead, Harold. Uh you were speaking about the uh sidewalks from five feet to eight feet. [1:27:05, 1:27:25]: Have you ever considered the fact that they might want a golf cart to roll through there, or you may have a bunch of senior citizens and they may want to ride up to Walmart? Uh I would think that might be the reason why they want you to go from five to eight feet. That may be the consideration and I'm not sure about that, okay? [1:27:26, 1:27:31]: Yeah, I'm not sure I'm not sure why or what the reasoning is behind that. Um [1:27:33, 1:27:34]: I think [1:27:35, 1:27:55]: If folks are trying to drive a a golf cart through the development, they could do that in the roadway. I actually don't think Georgia State Law allows for vehicles on sidewalks. Um I ran into that when I was in college. Uh a police officer told me to get my bike off the the d the sidewalk actually. So um I don't think state law would allow for a a [1:27:55, 1:28:05]: golf cart. But um if if the city does allow that, they could certainly take advantage of the connection from the clubhouse up to Walmart uh once they can get to the front of the development. [1:28:08, 1:28:28]: Thank you, Chair. I have a uh a plethora of questions. One, I I just have to say um I have to agree with one of your statements. It definitely looks like a cram development. Um, like you're cramming it into the property, and that's one of my hugest concerns. Um one on top of a few questions. Could you just tell me because I don't think I heard the number when Gordon was [1:28:28, 1:28:34]: Speaking, he was going a little fast. What was the number out of the 140 that are for small town homes and large? [1:28:35, 1:28:39]: One hundred and one are twenty foot wide and the ballads are the twenty four foot. [1:28:41, 1:28:45]: Okay. Thank you. Um [1:28:47, 1:28:56]: So I I I know that area. I I'm I born and raised in Stockbridge. So I grew up in that area. And um one of the biggest things for me is when I looked at the site plan [1:28:57, 1:29:17]: You're taking you have two two accesses to the the property, which congratulations, we gotta have that anyway, but you have the one on Hudson Bridge Drive, which that hill or that turn is already concerning to multiple people on multiple levels. One. And then two, the second one you have, it goes right into the adjacent [1:29:17, 1:29:27]: community. So let's say it's a fire in your community, right? The fire department would have to hit Flippin' Road, which is already traffic junction 247. [1:29:28, 1:29:33]: to then hit that neighborhood to then come into your property. Is that correct? [1:29:34, 1:29:54]: No, that's not correct. Okay. The fire department would have access. They would have access from either either access. So they could access from Hudson Bridge Drive or Oakwood Manor. Um but the access through Oakwood Manor is only to be used in the event that access through Hudson Bridge Drive is not available. So will that be dated? Yes. Okay. Cool. [1:29:54, 1:29:56]: That was another one of my questions. [1:29:58, 1:30:15]: Mm. And I'm glad you said uh uh a that they are requiring this we love our staff, but they're requiring a full brick um setback around the entire town home because th being on that hill and with that creek, you're definitely gonna want that. Um but another thing I wanted to ask you was [1:30:16, 1:30:36]: Two two last questions for me at least. Um homeless in that forest, because I we know a lot of we don't see a lot of the homeless in Stockbridge, but we know for a fact they're in the the trees, they're in the forest. And even though it may look like a nice community, we do live in a great community. We do have a homeless issue we that we have to address at a city level. I'm not saying that's something [1:30:36, 1:30:56]: That you all have to address. But if you're going to build this development, what is it going to cost for those that are living around that area? Because all of that is going to be moving. Like, did you all do an impact study in regards to that? And like, so homelessness and crime, because that is consort of Cam City. Hudson Bridge is kind of tedious there. So did y'all address that at all? [1:30:56, 1:31:16]: So I'm I'm not aware of any homeless uh folks who are living on the property. And I'm I don't believe that the applicant is aware of that either. However, uh if they are there, then I mean they're not supposed to be there. That would be trespassing. Um so we did not take that into consideration when doing an impact study. I don't I don't think that's [1:31:16, 1:31:20]: [5480.2, 5498.3]: It's n it's not. I just wanted to see if you all took that full advantage'cause regardless of if you're coming into the city, you know it is a community and we are a community based city uh at whole. But what's the price meme as well? That's gonna be my last what's gonna be y'all price point for sure. Yeah, they well using today's projections they would range between three hundred and thirty and three hundred and sixty thousand. [1:31:40, 1:31:41]: Okay, that's all I have chair. Thank you. [1:31:43, 1:31:54]: May I speak, Mr. Chair? Yes, sir. Um very much aware that uh you guys have fenced that in. They did have issues with homeless people in that area at one time. [1:31:54, 1:31:59]: uh that was a haven for bad behavior at one time. Um [1:31:59, 1:32:00]: Uh [1:32:00, 1:32:12]: There was a lot of issues with that property when it comes to homeless. So I just want you to make make you clear of that that we've had some issues with that particular piece of property when it comes to homeless. [1:32:13, 1:32:17]: Thank you. And I I d I would to that I would say [1:32:21, 1:32:41]: If we if we're if someone is able to develop the property, um homeless folks would not be able to access it and just walk around uh without anybody noticing. So having a development there, having eyes on the street uh would cut down on any bad behavior coming from from uh anybody who's trying to get through that property or anything. [1:32:41, 1:32:42]: [5566.2, 5567.4]: Any other questions from the board? [1:32:49, 1:33:09]: Yes. I I'm I'm all in favor of having this property zoned for residential rather than commercial. My only question is though, have you given consideration to the intersection of Hudson Bridge Drive where it enters into your property in any kind of traffic control device? By the traffic study, the amount of vehicles [1:33:09, 1:33:23]: vehicle traffic in and out of your development is going to be quite high. And right now if you know that intersection is a cluster as it is when the light turns red going out on the Hudson Bridge. [1:33:23, 1:33:43]: And people want to turn into the Taco Bell or Quick Trip or the Bottle Shop, and then you have people coming in and out of that alley, that that small piece of road right there that curves up to the shopping center, it is a traffic jam. And you add more hundred cars to that, if there's not some kind of [1:33:43, 1:33:51]: traffic control device, I think, at that intersection where all three of those roads meet, it is going to be horrendous. [1:33:53, 1:34:05]: So okay, that that's that's very interesting. I am familiar with the intersection. I I grew up uh not far from here and I used to frequent and get my gas there at the quick trip. So I know what you're talking about. Um [1:34:06, 1:34:26]: So when folks are exiting and entering the subject property, they would actually have two ways to do it. Um, not through Oakwood, that's gonna be gated. They could go out Hudson Drive, uh, excuse me, Hudson Bridge Drive, onto Hudson Bridge Road, and try to take a left or a right. Um, there's actually uh I'm sure you're aware. [1:34:26, 1:34:46]: So if if traffic is backing up on Hudson Bridge Drive, folks can detour thinking people are gonna make a left turn out of your [1:34:46, 1:35:01]: Development onto that road to use the stoplight at Walmart to come out. It's an option. And I what I'm what I'm trying to say is yeah, there's good road connectivity here so that folks can go in and out at different locations to try to alleviate that one intersection. [1:35:01, 1:35:21]: Okay. Drive and and Hudson Bridge Road. So it's too close to have another stoplight within the vicinity of that stoplight out onto a main artery. And I just see traffic in that area being terrible. Oh I'm not suggesting that I'm not sure. [1:35:21, 1:35:41]: I'm suggesting using the infrastructure that's in place. Right. So if folks are trying to get out uh from this development and turn right on Hudson Bridge Road, what they could do is actually start by turning left on Hudson Bridge Drive, working their way over to where there's a right in, right out, take that right, and actually I don't know if you can see. [1:35:41, 1:35:45]: the screen, it would kind of come over here and then come back this way. [1:35:46, 1:36:06]: Well, unfortunately that's really the only other option, but I don't think it would be very beneficial because you're gonna back up that stoplight then coming out of Walmart with the additional hundred cars coming out of that neighborhood, you know, going to work wherever they go. So it it that really needs to be evaluated. Uh like I said, I'm in favor of developing [1:36:06, 1:36:25]: at residential, but that area really needs to be evaluated. And there are three parcels of property that merge right there. So before any improvements could be done, um the property acquisition would have to take place. Sure. Whereas whoever did the development wouldn't would own all the pieces that are involved right there. [1:36:25, 1:36:45]: Well what I can say is we we do have a traffic study. Um and the study told us in the morning time um trip generation would be about I I think it was um forty or fifty trips in the morning. Is that better? So during the AM peak hour, I think the traffic study was set. [1:36:45, 1:37:05]: Saying something like 40 or 50 trips and it was a bit higher in the evening, closer to 60 or 70 trips. Um but the the impact study did say that traffic even with the development would be comparable to the no-build situation. Um just that's a slight increase in traffic, of course, with with new new development, uh, but nothing that would. [1:37:05, 1:37:19]: completely derail uh the traffic situation as it is or as it's projected to be with one exception uh and it did have some some recommendations to alleviate that and that's something that we're willing to commit to. [1:37:20, 1:37:40]: Yeah, I think at a minimum they would have to adjust the timing on the stoplight green light coming out of Hudson Bridge Drive to allow for more traffic to exit that area because right now it's ten cars. That's all that can get out of there in between the stoplights. So that's something the DOT would have to look at. And we're we're certainly. [1:37:40, 1:37:43]: Okay. [1:37:44, 1:37:44]: Thank you. [1:37:45, 1:38:05]: Any other questions from the board? One more thing, Tier. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Mr. Williams. Thank you. Um I I definitely have to have to uh second what my commissioner on the other side uh said to you. That's definitely one of the more concerning parts. And I if we're gonna uh you're not selling it for me, if we wanna sell it, you saying the multiple parts of I know we think [1:38:05, 1:38:25]: They can they're gonna turn left, but typically when we're leaving the house and we're trying to get to where we need to go, we're gonna find the fastest route and that's gonna be that right, right there to stop sign or the red light to turn left or right to go where we need to go. Um but I did have one more question. Your traffic impact study, I know it was submitted to the office on June in June. Was it conducted in [1:38:25, 1:38:26]: In June as well. [1:38:27, 1:38:47]: Oh, it's been a while. I'd have to double check that. Okay. Um if you're asking about school traffic, this traffic engineer in particular always factors in school traffic. Uh he has collected school traffic data for the past several years. So even if school's not in, he factors it in and increases it by about five percent just in case. Okay. I just wanted to make sure because we are, you know, we we have news. [1:38:47, 1:39:07]: Because they have recently just opened and less than a week ago. Yeah. So we want to make sure when we're talking about tra uh traffic studies in regards to the school hours as well that we're adding those new additional schools that have added bus routes and car routes like that as well. Um but that's all I have, Chair. All right, five questions from the school. Mr. Chairman, can I ask just one question? [1:39:07, 1:39:11]: Is there just one entrance and exit from that property? [1:39:12, 1:39:18]: No. So here I'll pull up the site plan one more time. We're showing two [1:39:19, 1:39:19]: Points. [1:39:21, 1:39:32]: of ingress and egress. So this down here, this is Hudson Bridge Drive, and this would be the main access. We're showing access on Oakwood Manor. [1:39:32, 1:39:34]: However, this is going to be gated. [1:39:35, 1:39:41]: and only accessible by emergency vehicles in the event that access is not available off of Hudson Bridge Drive. [1:39:42, 1:39:48]: And so the the purpose there is uh really when we were talking to the fire marshal, he told us we had to have two entrances. [1:39:49, 1:40:02]: Um for safety purposes. However, we didn't want to have to we didn't want to impact the folks at Oakwood Manor by having our traffic divert through their neighborhood. D we didn't think that was fair. A compromise that we came up with with the fire marshal is gate that. [1:40:03, 1:40:18]: Uh staff has recommended that we gate that. We're happy to do that. Uh we think it makes the most sense uh for making sure folks from this development don't go into the neighboring development um and still ha still still meeting the fire marshal where where he needs us to be. [1:40:20, 1:40:20]: Thank you. [1:40:22, 1:40:42]: Mr. Chairman, if I could add one more thing, one more statement. Yes, Mr. Cobb. Anticipating some residents moving in there that have children and there would be children going to school. Um, by the look at the map, there's no way a school bus is going to be able to navigate inside that neighborhood, which means a lot of kids are gonna have to walk down to Hudson. [1:40:42, 1:40:45]: Bridge Drive for a school bus to pick them up down there. [1:40:46, 1:41:06]: So the roadways here are going to be designed to city standards which have to accommodate accommodate a fire truck. They'll also be able to accommodate a school bus. Uh in the event that a school bus kind of tries to consolidate the pickup point, that was that's what they did for me when I was a kid. Um I would recommend the clubhouse for having having [1:41:06, 1:41:15]: having students consolidate there. Um so that way the bus could get in, kind of use the the turnaround there to quickly pick children up and turn right back around and get out. [1:41:16, 1:41:31]: I know this property is uphill from Hudson Bridge Drive, where you it meets Taco Bell and the filling station. Yeah. Um what kind of a grade do you think they're going to have to climb to get into the property from from there up to [1:41:31, 1:41:32]: Yeah. [1:41:32, 1:41:33]: So [1:41:34, 1:41:51]: To be the short answer is I don't exactly know what the grade is. Um I I was speaking with my engineer today and when he was talking about grading, he mentioned only having to grade um a small amount of land over here in the southeast corner of the plan. Um [1:41:52, 1:41:53]: The rest of it's kind of okay. [1:41:53, 1:42:00]: Okay. Yeah. But I can get that number from you or for you. I just have to reach out to my engineer to get the exact grade for you. [1:42:07, 1:42:09]: Alright, any final questions from the board? [1:42:11, 1:42:20]: Okay, if not, we're gonna open it up to the community. Again, if you are in favor of the application, we ask that you form to your left. [1:42:21, 1:42:24]: Please make sure that you sign the um board. [1:42:26, 1:42:30]: Okay, if you are opposed, we ask that you line up to the right. [1:42:32, 1:42:33]: Okay. Yeah. [1:42:34, 1:42:54]: Please make sure she's speaking to the microphone. State your name and your address, please. We'll do. I'm Tim Callahan. I live at 146 Oakwood Circle, uh immediately adjacent to the subject property. Um this property does have a storied history, and and at you know, using some of the words that uh were mentioned at the uh community information meeting that was [1:42:54, 1:43:00]: is inappropriately dated on the battle law notice as the eighth. Um [1:43:01, 1:43:02]: They are squeezing. [1:43:02, 1:43:05]: Every bit out of this. And I want to unpack that a little bit. [1:43:06, 1:43:09]: Well let's start with the fact that there is a thirty to forty foot drop. [1:43:09, 1:43:13]: From the upper side of the property behind our homes down to the creek. [1:43:14, 1:43:23]: They showed a very level fly-through with easily forty foot driveways. That's a video that's make-believe. [1:43:24, 1:43:31]: There's no way that they're going to be able to build these townhomes without half the foundations on fill and the other half on cut and retaining walls everywhere. [1:43:33, 1:43:46]: On top of that, they're talking the well I appreciate the uh planning uh employees putting planning staff putting together some good recommendations of having a buffer with tall trees. [1:43:47, 1:43:49]: This type of development will mean clear cut. [1:43:50, 1:43:51]: And then eventually plat something. [1:43:52, 1:44:05]: What kind of plant, we don't know, how long before the growth to maturity, we have no idea. So I'd like to ask for you to consider adding the idea of a no-disturb buffer as opposed to uh simply saying plant trees and put up a fence. [1:44:06, 1:44:15]: Additionally, in a traffic study, as I s noticed it, I may be wrong, it was referring to two exits and two different trip numbers for those exits. [1:44:15, 1:44:16]: One of those will be [1:44:16, 1:44:18]: Gated according to the new [1:44:18, 1:44:19]: information. [1:44:19, 1:44:23]: Which means it doubles what's coming out the other side. So instead of sixty [1:44:23, 1:44:24]: Or eighty. [1:44:24, 1:44:26]: We're looking at over a hundred trips. [1:44:27, 1:44:32]: Each of you have been to the QT, you've seen how well people respect the roadway markings on that road. [1:44:33, 1:44:34]: For where people should drive. [1:44:35, 1:44:35]: Obviously none. [1:44:36, 1:44:37]: This will compound that. [1:44:38, 1:44:52]: You've seen the turns there. I appreciate the fact that you brought it up that the turn there to go with in the Walmart area is an acute left turn, generally uh problematic, just without the extra traffic. You add this in, it's gonna compound that substantially. [1:44:55, 1:44:55]: So [1:44:58, 1:44:59]: This [1:45:00, 1:45:04]: Development does have a history. It was a Baptist church property at one point, way back when. [1:45:04, 1:45:24]: It went through a variety of different uh plans and the idea of saying, okay, we'll have this mixed use with commercial and residential. And then previous administration and management of the city allowed for an absolute massive overdevelopment of the commercial area, leaving this left as zoned commercial rather than going toward the comprehensive plan for it to eventually be rezoned. [1:45:24, 1:45:25]: It has mixed use. [1:45:27, 1:45:30]: No residential was built because it wasn't as profitable. [1:45:31, 1:45:31]: As commercial. [1:45:32, 1:45:35]: To that end, for y'all as a recommending to the city. [1:45:36, 1:45:38]: Residential property is never gonna provide [1:45:38, 1:45:40]: You a return on investment. [1:45:41, 1:45:53]: for the city, because the services that are gonna be in demand here will never be paid for by that much residential use. The fire, the police, general building inspection, all that. [1:45:53, 1:46:03]: I do hope that you consider I I like you, I'm for this being residential. I think it would be a good fit. But this density is ridiculous. [1:46:04, 1:46:08]: This density is to the point to where it's going to I [1:46:08, 1:46:16]: cause extraordinary erosion to the area, the impervious area of the roofs, the sidewalks, the ground is going to flood that [1:46:16, 1:46:17]: stream [1:46:17, 1:46:22]: Which is sensitive and polluted as it is because of simple trash coming off Walmart area. [1:46:23, 1:46:32]: With soil and debris, l yard clippings and everything else. It's gonna damage the watershed there. It's gonna end up resulting in some flooding downstream. [1:46:32, 1:46:37]: Because this yard debris and everything else will end up clogging up the culverts and so forth downstream. [1:46:38, 1:46:56]: I also recommend that you also consider while you don't make recommendations to the cities or or to the school saying, Hey, you should do this or that, I reckon I respect the fact that your job here is to ensure plan for the welfare and will and quality of life for the folks who are city of Stockbridge. [1:46:57, 1:47:09]: Part of that is a good quality schools where the kids are not overcrowded. You may have awesome teachers, you may have awesome parents. But if you have thirty kids in a school and half of them are having to sit in a trailer because of overloading, [1:47:10, 1:47:20]: It's hard for a parent to make up for that. I apologize, but we are over two minutes before we can vote to ascend the speaker's talking time. [1:47:21, 1:47:41]: Approved. One minute, please. I appreciate it. As this is three items together, four items together, I like to address them as such. The fact is is that this item is very sim this zoning was originally similar to the first item on the agenda. It was going to be a variety of different things. Great plans, great idea, but now because of the past d decisions. [1:47:41, 1:47:48]: We're having to suffer for squeezed in development trying to force it here. And the last thing I want to point out in the last two years. [1:47:49, 1:47:54]: The twenty-five percent of the homes that have sold in the last two years in the same price point. [1:47:55, 1:47:57]: Have been sold to non owner occupants. [1:47:57, 1:47:59]: Meaning they've gone to rental. [1:48:00, 1:48:06]: This property being supposedly at this price point, when adjacent properties do not meet this price point as single price. [1:48:07, 1:48:09]: А сингл девеломент хомс сингл стан хомс. [1:48:10, 1:48:12]: There's no way you can meet the price point they're re they're referring to. [1:48:14, 1:48:15]: If this place goes and [1:48:16, 1:48:16]: Gets built. [1:48:17, 1:48:25]: It's gonna be bought up by an investor like the place across the street, the that they tout as, hey, this is also a nice uh dense use. [1:48:26, 1:48:28]: Within two years of that townhome development, [1:48:28, 1:48:31]: The vast majority of those were bought up by a single owner. [1:48:34, 1:48:35]: Thank you. [1:48:40, 1:48:40]: Yes, ma'am. [1:48:46, 1:49:06]: I want to thank the uh council and the beautiful presentation from the company. My name is Jocelyn Williams. I live at 190 Banks Drive. The brand new school that was built is Birch Creek. That's where I work. We went from a projected 525. We're now at 725 students, and it is still growing. Uh my concern is [1:49:06, 1:49:18]: is the one way in and the one way out uh and the safety for the children. I'm concerned about the infrastructure and the six point eight seven per acre and the surrounding use that the um [1:49:19, 1:49:39]: uh that has been permitted by the planning and zoning, they're gonna approve it. But I just wanted to put my opposition like the other uh resident, the people that live there is going to be a nightmare. I get up at four o'clock in the morning so that I can beat the traffic and I come home at six and seven at night as a teacher. So as you're making your considerations for approval. [1:49:39, 1:49:49]: I know that we have to have places for people to live, but please listen to the residents. And I want to thank you again, once again, beautiful residential area that you're building. Thank you so much. [1:49:50, 1:49:50]: Thank you. [1:49:52, 1:49:54]: Any other comments from the community? [1:49:57, 1:50:17]: All right, with that, I would ask for a motion from the board, please. Chair. Um I'd like to thank both of the s the community speakers for speaking and kinda hitting uh some some of the points that uh we as commissioners have also hit for those that's spoken, but I would go ahead and like make rake make a recommendation for [1:50:17, 1:50:23]: us to deny um item number CP dash twenty twenty four dash oh one. [1:50:26, 1:50:34]: And Mr. Jaden, that would also include RZ twenty twenty four dash zero one. Yes, sir. Okay. Do I have a second to deny? [1:50:34, 1:50:35]: A second. [1:50:35, 1:50:40]: Mr. Thomas seconds. All in favor to deny? Aye. [1:50:43, 1:50:45]: [6645.9, 6648.3]: Three ayes to deny. [1:50:51, 1:51:00]: Okay guys, I couldn't hear you. So Thomas said aye, uh Planton and Tibetal said nay. So we have two ayes, we have two opposed, correct? [1:51:02, 1:51:08]: So I will cast the tie breaking vote. I vote opposed. The application is denied. [1:51:12, 1:51:13]: With that [1:51:14, 1:51:16]: Regarding the variances [1:51:18, 1:51:22]: VR twenty twenty four dash zero three, twenty well item six. [1:51:24, 1:51:30]: The motions and the Yes ma'am. So we had two nos. Two posed. [1:51:33, 1:51:38]: We had two approvals. I cast the tie breaking vote as a no to deny. [1:51:42, 1:51:45]: The application. Could you not hear who said it? [1:51:55, 1:52:03]: All right, as the application has been denied, I'd like a motion from the board um to defer the variances. Can I have a motion, please? [1:52:04, 1:52:05]: Yes, ma'am. [1:52:11, 1:52:13]: Understood. Thank you. Appreciate that. [1:52:16, 1:52:20]: Okay, with that we're gonna move on to item seven. [1:52:21, 1:52:41]: As regards, and I'm gonna read all three folks, just so you know. CP 202406, this is a comprehensive plan amendment case, CP 202406 to be located in Council District 5. Consideration of a request for a comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use designation of two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North. [1:52:41, 1:53:01]: South of Eagles Landing Parkway from low density mixed use to medium density residential to allow for the construction of a townhome development. The application is LI Route 23, LLC, and the agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as listed below with 13.64 total. [1:53:01, 1:53:12]: acres within the Stockbridge city limits. Parcel number 069010-09000 contains 10.61 acres of landlots one and two of districts seven and eleven. [1:53:14, 1:53:34]: Parcel 070-0100-1000-2612 Highway 42 North contains 3.03 acres in land lot one of District 7. Let me read in to the next case, which is RZ 202406, rezoning case 202406 to be located in California. [1:53:33, 1:53:53]: Council District 5, consideration of request for a rezoning to rezone two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eagles Landing Parkway from C2, General Commercial to MFR, multiple family residential to allow for the construction of a townhome development. The applicant again is L I Route 23 L L C in the A. [1:53:53, 1:54:11]: Agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels and is listed below with thirteen point six four total acres within Stockbridge City limits. Variants request VR twenty twenty-four zero six would reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the required fifty feet to thirty feet. [1:54:12, 1:54:32]: Parcel 069-010 0900 contains 10.61 acres. Landlots 1 and 2 of District 7 and 11. And parcel 070 01001000 2612. Highway 42 North contains 3.03 acres. Landlots 1 of District 7. [1:54:32, 1:54:52]: The last item is variance case VR 2024-02. To be located in Council District 5. Variance request number one: consideration of a variance request for two variants on two parcels of the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eagles Landing Parkway to allow for the construction of a townhome development variance request. [1:54:52, 1:55:12]: Question number one would reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the required 50 feet to 30 feet. The applicant is LI Route 23, LLC, and the agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. Property contains two parcels as listed below with 13.64 total acres within the Stockbridge city limits. [1:55:11, 1:55:13]: [6928.2, 6932.9]: Oh, I'm sorry. It's it's not it's on this paperwork. I apologize. [1:55:38, 1:55:58]: Variance case VR 2024-02 to be located in Council District 5. Variance request number two. Consideration of a variance request for two variances on two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eagles Landing Parkway to allow for the construction of a townhome development. Variance request number two would reduce the side yard setbacks of the townhome lots. [1:55:58, 1:56:18]: Between buildings from the required fifteen to ten feet. The applicant is LI Route 23, LLC, and the agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as are listed below with thirteen point six four total acres within the Stockbridge city limits. The parcels are as noted 069-012-000. [1:56:18, 1:56:38]: And landlots one and two of District 711 and parcel 070. Dash 01001000, which is 2612, Highway 42 North, which contains 3.03 acres, and landlot one of District 7. [1:56:39, 1:56:40]: Thank you, Vice Chair. [1:56:43, 1:56:53]: So these are the these are the presentations for CP twenty four dash zero six, RZ twenty four dash zero six, and VR twenty four dash zero two. [1:56:55, 1:57:00]: As mentioned, the applicant is LI Route twenty-three LLC. [1:57:00, 1:57:20]: And the owner is LI Route 2020 Route 23 LLC with the agent being George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The number of proposed units per acre is 7.33, and the address of the property is 26 Highway 42 North. And zero and the parcel ID number is 0633. [1:57:20, 1:57:26]: six nine dash zero one zero zero nine thousand. The number of acres is thirteen point six four acres. [1:57:27, 1:57:36]: The characteristics of the property is that the site is currently vacant and wooded with a systems d deceleration lane and entrance on the right. [1:57:36, 1:57:47]: The current future less use land use designation is low density mixed use and the current zoning of the property is C two and the sign was posted on july sixteenth of twenty twenty four. [1:57:49, 1:57:55]: So this is the vicinity map. As you can see it's adjacent from CNC fence. [1:57:55, 1:58:15]: Who's the owner of these the the larger parcel? You have CBS, you have Elite Collision, you also have the Eagles Peak Shopping Center, which is here, and you have the Lakeside at Eagles Landing, you have Brandon's Walk, and you also have the St. Luke's Lutheran Church, and you also have the Canon Cleveland Funeral Directors, and you also [1:58:15, 1:58:20]: To have the parkside at Eagles Landing subdivision, the parkside office plaza, the [1:58:21, 1:58:23]: Parkside Plaza and the Marathon Gas Station. [1:58:26, 1:58:29]: And this is the aerial photo with the side plan as shown. [1:58:34, 1:58:37]: And this is when the sign was posted on July sixteenth, twenty twenty four. [1:58:40, 1:58:47]: And this is the existing deceleration lane that the applicant is gonna use as sho as will be shown as a side plan. [1:58:50, 1:58:59]: And further down you have Parkside Plaza. And to the right you have Elite Collision and CNC Fence, which is further down as well. [1:59:01, 1:59:05]: And to the left you have the park side of the Eagles Land subdivision. [1:59:07, 1:59:27]: As far as the zoning history of the property, the larger partial, which is shown with the green star, it was rezoned from RA, which was residential cultural, to C2 general commercial on May 6, 1997, as partial a larger property. And is in addition, the existing deceleration lane that is shown where the mouse is at the summer. [1:59:27, 1:59:30]: Subject property was completed around two thousand two. [1:59:34, 1:59:36]: The proposed development information. [1:59:38, 1:59:47]: LI Route 2023 is proposing to build a townhouse development with 100 units. The development will include a pool. [1:59:47, 1:59:55]: Playground, community mailbox, and two point eight one acres of open space. The development will utilize the [1:59:57, 2:00:16]: deceleration lane on Highway 42 North and will also install an emergency access on Highway 42 North. It will have main access from the Park View Plate subdivision and a twenty five foot buffer will be adjacent to the lakeside at Eagles Land subdivision. In addition, the community will also be gated. [2:00:19, 2:00:39]: So this is the side plan showing the uh hundred units. And over here, this is where the twenty-five foot buffer will be, to the right where my cursor is. And you also have the pool pool and the playground. And you also have the open space. And you also have the existing deceleration lane to the left. [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: And you also have the existing [2:00:43, 2:00:46]: Yeah, but existing road here that they will use as a emergency road access. [2:00:50, 2:00:53]: And so this is the close up view of the site data. [2:00:55, 2:00:57]: Estimated they will build over one hundred units. [2:01:02, 2:01:06]: And this is a rendering of the um proposed townhomes. [2:01:17, 2:01:21]: And this g now we go to the C P twenty four dash zero six. [2:01:23, 2:01:43]: The applicant's request is to change the current future land use designation from low density, medium use low density mixed use to medium density residential to allow for the proposed townhome development. Currently, the two parcels have a current future land use designation of low density mixed use, which is not compatible with the requested MFR zoning district. [2:01:43, 2:01:58]: Therefore, the applicant has requested to change the feature land use designation from low density mixed use to medium density residential. Page forty nine of the twenty four Comprehensive Plan provides a list of compatible zoning districts which includes the requested MFR zoning district. [2:02:00, 2:02:03]: And this is this comprehensive plan twenty twenty four. [2:02:05, 2:02:13]: And this is the definition of medium density residential, which is has a u density range from four units to seven point nine nine units per acre. [2:02:18, 2:02:23]: And this is the feature land use map. The area is surrounded by low density. [2:02:25, 2:02:31]: Low yeah, low density mix use, let low density residential, uh high density residential, which is shown. [2:02:32, 2:02:35]: And high density residential is shown in the orange. [2:02:40, 2:02:45]: And this is the the table showing the surrounding land use destination. [2:02:45, 2:02:52]: Once again, the majority of is low density mix use and you have high density residential and you also have high density residential as well. [2:02:58, 2:03:11]: And this is the surrounding land use densities with the estimate. So based on the um research that we did, the density range is consistent with the other densities of the subdivisions, surrounded subdivisions in the area. [2:03:13, 2:03:26]: And this is surrounding land use density maps as shown, with the properties shown in the yellow star. You have Brannan's Walk, and you have the lake side at Eagles Landers subdivision and you have the park side at Eagles Landers subdivision. [2:03:26, 2:03:28]: So the it's it's consistent. [2:03:31, 2:03:42]: Key points from that we did in the staff analysis is that it is consistent with the goals and policies of the comp plan as shown and these are the goals that they're consistent with, that align with. [2:03:45, 2:03:50]: The proposed MFR is compatible with the requested MFR zoning district. [2:03:51, 2:03:59]: And is suitable to the area since the other areas have a future land use destination of high density residential and low density residential. [2:04:03, 2:04:07]: And the proposed MFR is not compatible with the current [2:04:08, 2:04:16]: Current land use mixed designation. So therefore, that's why the applicant submitted a compliant amendment to change it from low density mixed use to medium density residential. [2:04:17, 2:04:20]: And it'll provide as far as the par oh, wrong one. [2:04:21, 2:04:22]: Okay. [2:04:24, 2:04:26]: So overall staff recommendation is approval. [2:04:30, 2:04:33]: And I will go into the rezoning R C twenty four dash zero six. [2:04:37, 2:04:57]: The applicant's request is to rezone from C2 to MFR to allow for the construction of the townhome development. Currently, the two parcels are zone commercial, general commercial. However, the C2 zoning district provides a list of permitted uses which does not include townhomes. Therefore, the applicant has requested to rezone the two parcels from C2 to MFR. [2:04:57, 2:05:05]: MFR Section two point four of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code provides a list of permitted uses, which includes townhomes. [2:05:05, 2:05:06]: Mm. [2:05:10, 2:05:23]: And this is a zoning map and the properties shown with with the two stars. As you can see you have L I, you have O I and you also have M F R on the left and right, and you also have C two as well. [2:05:24, 2:05:28]: And you also have S SR, which is single fam suburban residential. [2:05:32, 2:05:37]: In addition, the property is part of the overlay Pocre Mixus Overlay District. [2:05:42, 2:05:47]: And the key points to analyze from that we analyze is that the pro proposed MFR [2:05:48, 2:06:08]: The proposed MFR is compatible with the current um land use mix designation. It's consistent with the UDC, and as far as the positive effects, it will provide alternative housing types for first-time home buyers and it will generate an increase in revenue for businesses of the nearby shopping center. Also, water and sewage is available. [2:06:08, 2:06:15]: And any land use under the C two can be developed on these subject properties if it remains the same. [2:06:22, 2:06:42]: And staff recommends approval with the following conditions. Flock cameras will be located at the entrance of the proposed townhome development. A 25-foot buffer shall be established along the northern and southern portion of the subject property. A mandatory HOA shall be established. The units shall not increase 100 units. [2:06:42, 2:07:00]: Maranchal shall not exceed ten percent of the proposed townhome developments, and male chaos shall be established, and the reverence shown with the submitted application on july first, twenty twenty four shall be followed, with the brick being shown in the front and the sides is shown hardy plank sided. [2:07:03, 2:07:07]: And this is the v presentation for VR twenty four dash zero two. [2:07:10, 2:07:25]: With the applicant's request, the first variance is to r reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the acquired fifty to thirty feet, and the second variance which is to reduce the side yard setback of the townhome lots between buildings from the acquired fifteen to ten feet. [2:07:26, 2:07:33]: This is the MFR district standards that are found in section two point four four of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code. [2:07:37, 2:07:48]: And the staff analysis that we did. Since staff is reviewing the MFR building standard standards, staff is in support of the requested variants. [2:07:49, 2:08:03]: And in addition, the requested variances, they're they're consistent with the overall purpose of the UDC. And in addition, the applicant may be prive of the opportunity to build a townhome community without the reduction of the front and side yard setback. [2:08:05, 2:08:09]: So based on our analysis, staff recommends approval for both variances. [2:08:13, 2:08:15]: All right. Thank you, Gordon. Appreciate it. No problem. [2:08:17, 2:08:20]: The uh applicant or representation, if you could please come. [2:08:21, 2:08:23]: Good evening. Please state your name, your address. [2:08:23, 2:08:29]: It's over just a second in my presentation here. [2:08:37, 2:08:38]: Here we go. [2:08:39, 2:08:59]: Okay. Good evening, Mr. Chairman. Uh board members, Vice Chairman, excuse me. My name is George Harper, Paramount Engineering, 11 East Broad Street, Noonan, Georgia. I'm here tonight representing the applicants. Um LI Route 23 uh for the rezoning um of this property. [2:08:59, 2:09:19]: So this property is currently uh owned by uh LI23, is the CNC Fence Company. They've owned this property for a number of years, uh back since the nineties, I believe it is. And they did come uh before the um city council uh a number of years ago to try to expand their fence company. [2:09:19, 2:09:39]: onto this property. Well their property is zoned LI and this property would have had to have been zoned LI as well. So it was denied uh at that time and so the property's just kind of been sitting there vacant. They've kind of had it for sale. It's been zoned C2, but just really haven't had many takers over the years. So I think they're getting a little older and they really want [2:09:39, 2:09:47]: and try to to move this property. And so we approached them or developers approached them about um [2:09:48, 2:10:04]: rezoning this for a town home development, especially with all the um development around it being residential, other than their property to the north, um, it seems like it would be a good fit. And so again, you know, we're just to kind of reiterate some of the things that um [2:10:05, 2:10:25]: that uh Mr. Linton said, you know, the property um is currently uh surrounded by residential. You've got some high di high density residential to the west, you've got some uh lower uh density residential to the south, but again some higher residential to the east. So uh in commercial and uh industrial zone to the north. [2:10:25, 2:10:45]: So this uh townhome MFR zoning is a is a good transitional type zoning, as the previous applicant said as well, from more single family higher density to some of the uh lower single family density as well. And then also uh you got commercial and industrial involved in there as well. So it's a it's a [2:10:45, 2:10:50]: good type of transitional zoning and I think the staff reiterated that point as well. [2:10:50, 2:11:10]: But again, we're trying to uh first of all amend the comp plan um from low density mixed use to the medium density residential, uh rezone from from C2 existing uh to MFR. Um we're applying for uh variances to reduce the front setbacks from 50 feet. [2:11:10, 2:11:21]: to 30 feet. Now the reason for this, if you look at most other um zoning code around this area, Henry County, Clayton County, [2:11:22, 2:11:25]: in their in their townhome type uh zonings [2:11:25, 2:11:30]: The front setbacks are normally twenty to thirty feet. The reason is for that is is [2:11:30, 2:11:50]: Um when you have smaller units, they typically the point of somebody buying those units is to have less maintenance, okay? Uh either older people or or younger folks. So when you bring the um houses a little closer to the road, you don't have as big a front yards to maintain. Um and it it it kind of makes the it more [2:11:50, 2:12:06]: more of a community type feel. And so that's typically the reason why uh these um setbacks are more in the 20 to 30 foot range. Uh 50 is is a little um excesses excessive from what you know I've seen in in most other municipalities. [2:12:06, 2:12:26]: And then as as far as the side setbacks, uh it's it's kind of the code says that uh in this MFR zoning that the minimum side setback is fifteen feet, but the minimum distance between buildings is twenty. So it would be thirty feet, but the code says the minimum distance between buildings is twenty. [2:12:26, 2:12:46]: So we're just trying to reduce the setback to make that match uh that part of the ordinance. And speaking with staff, uh, we kind of explained it to them as well in this process. And uh Mr. Linton had said that they are kind of in the going in the process of looking at that part in their code and possibly um maybe making some changes to that. So they do match. [2:12:46, 2:12:50]: uh you know w uh what everything matches. [2:12:51, 2:13:11]: Mm-hmm. Uh let's see the the tract is of thirteen point six four acres. Uh we've got plenty of open space. Um if you if you look at our site plan, we've got quite a bit more green space than maybe the the previous applicant had. We tried not to cram just every square inch of this property with units. [2:13:11, 2:13:31]: Uh I probably could have gotten another ten or fifteen units on this thing uh if we had had uh really tried to just cram it in here. But we wanted to to leave the the open space and make it more of a uh a an upscale feel. You know, this property is real close to Eagles Landing, this area is very near [2:13:31, 2:13:49]: nice. The surrounding area is very nice. So we wanted this to be more of an upscale type townhome development. And so we didn't try to cram every square inch of units in this property. You know again we have we've only got 100 units. We got sidewalks on both sides of the street. [2:13:49, 2:14:09]: Uh we're gonna provide a pool, a playground, a uh pool cabana um as uh uh guest parking. Uh that's that's a big thing now with a lot of these townhome developments that they're asking for is additional guest parking. Some of the concerns I I've in the last few of these that I've rezoned have been people um you know [2:14:09, 2:14:29]: Commissions worried about people parking on the street. Well, we provided ample space at the uh at the pool house as well as some additional parking at the rear of the property. When I say rear, I mean south uh west corner there. Now you can't really see it very well on this property uh or this this map, but on the southwest corner. [2:14:29, 2:14:34]: corner we have an emergency access drive. So this one will have two [2:14:34, 2:14:54]: Not really two, it'll have one access, but it has an emergency access on the southwest corner. Uh there's actually curb cuts uh for both of our entrances right now. There's a curb cut uh that uh lines up with Parkview Place, which will be our main entrance, and then there's actually a an existing curb cut as well uh for where we're [2:14:54, 2:14:57]: we're gonna locate the uh emergency access. [2:14:57, 2:15:11]: D cell lanes are already in, left turn lanes are already in. So we really don't have to do very much road improvements or uh any any kind of you know, amenities or I mean improvements on the uh G dot right away. [2:15:11, 2:15:15]: Which is good for for us and for you know, G Dot. [2:15:16, 2:15:36]: Uh we're gonna provide all two car garages. I know uh some of the products you've heard of have uh are wanna do some one car garages. We're not gonna do that. We're doing all two car garages. Uh they'll be all twenty-four foot wide. Most of the units will be eighteen hundred square foot plus. Um we're gonna do uh [2:15:36, 2:15:56]: It'll have brick stone accents on the front. I've got some render down here. Real nice looking products with a lot of stone and brick on the front. We're going to do kind of the metal type roof on the area above the garage. It's got a little overhang right there to kind of protect. [2:15:56, 2:16:02]: on the garage, so those will be kind of metal roofs on that area. Obviously uh shingle roofs on the on the main roof. [2:16:03, 2:16:05]: Uh let's see. [2:16:07, 2:16:17]: So that's that's kind of the the gist of what we're what we're proposing. Um I know the staff had made several uh recommendations and [2:16:18, 2:16:20]: You go through those, excuse me. [2:16:25, 2:16:35]: We are in agreement with all of those though. I can't read them off right now as he Mr. Linton went through them, but we are in agreement with all of those uh those recommendations. [2:16:35, 2:16:40]: And I just wanna point out one thing uh on this property. So it's currently zone C two. [2:16:40, 2:16:44]: And C two has quite a few [2:16:45, 2:16:47]: allowable uses by right. [2:16:47, 2:16:50]: And I just want to read a couple of these. [2:16:50, 2:16:51]: Just [2:16:51, 2:16:58]: So everybody's kind of aware of what could what could currently go on this property. A car wash, an auto repair shop, a pawn shop. [2:16:58, 2:17:02]: Drive through restaurants, tattoo parlor parlors, and vape shops. [2:17:02, 2:17:21]: So those are just some of the things that are allowed by right on that property right now. I I know if I lived in the area, I would much rather have um some residential than more commercial uh butting up against me. Um we're trying to design the property to where, you know, it it it fits in with the surrounding [2:17:22, 2:17:23]: uh communities. [2:17:23, 2:17:26]: You know, the property to our south is zoned M FR just like we are. [2:17:26, 2:17:39]: So um, you know, it's very compatible and a good transitional zoning and I think it'll be a very nice upscale uh product for this area. I'd like to reserve any time I have left for rebuttal, but I'll be glad to answer any questions that you may have. [2:17:39, 2:17:42]: Thank you. I'd like to open it to the board if you have any questions, please. [2:17:44, 2:17:44]: Mr. David. [2:17:45, 2:17:57]: This is Dave Planchan. I've got a question. Um you said about eighteen hundred square feet for each unit. How many bedrooms are you anticipating or what kind of mix of bedrooms do you think you'll have? It'll be a minimum of three bedroom. [2:17:58, 2:18:18]: Minimum of three? Minimum of three. Okay. Yeah. So there's going to be obviously families going to be interested in moving in here. Um again we think about schools. Yes. The accessibility of school buses, where the children are going to meet to get on the school buses, et cetera. Uh-huh. Have you given any thought to that or what were your ideas on that? [2:18:18, 2:18:38]: Yes, yes we have. I've got two small kids and and it seems these days and I think the the gentleman uh was saying this before, they kinda got to where they do more of a consolidated pickup nowadays. They don't go around to each house like they used to when we were growing up. So uh yes, again, our amenity area in the rear would be a [2:18:38, 2:18:39]: Great spot for that. [2:18:40, 2:19:00]: All the the way that it's kind of laid out, uh, you don't really have a very far walk from any of the units to that. I mean, you know, you can easily cut through to get back over to the to the amenity area and the bus pickup. So uh we got parking there for parents if they wanted to drive back there to you know let their child wait to pick up. [2:19:00, 2:19:16]: up so and a nice big cul-de-sac as well. So yeah, I I think you know we there's plenty of room and it's there's not a lot of, you know, big winding curves and sharp turns in this subdivision to, you know, to really inhibit any traffic movement. So if that helps. [2:19:19, 2:19:19]: Question. [2:19:19, 2:19:33]: Um two two actually questions. He took one of'em. Um what's the price point starting? The price point of these are gonna be pretty similar to the last one. They're gonna be in the three hundreds, I mean three thirties up. [2:19:35, 2:19:38]: Depending on what you had, you know, as far as amenities when you build'em out. So [2:19:39, 2:19:41]: Okay. And I um [2:19:42, 2:19:59]: I actually wanted to see if you would go into one of the staff recommendations for variance one, which is reducing the front yard setback um from fifty feet to thirty feet. Um, I actually want to modify the staff's uh variance to thirty five and see if you all be willing to do thirty five. [2:20:00, 2:20:02]: Can I ask the reasoning behind that? [2:20:03, 2:20:20]: For me, I I've seen some of these developments and I'm I'm fairly new with you guys as um actual developer, but I would feel more comfortable with thirty-five than thirty, seeing that some of our developments and townhomes in our city um we've had some issues with thirty. Okay. And so I would be a little bit more comfortable with that extra five feet. [2:20:29, 2:20:37]: Yes, I mean we'll t we we take that under advisement. I mean I will I'll be honest with you the thirty feet came from staff. Uh [2:20:40, 2:20:44]: He does early still that's what it is. [2:20:44, 2:20:50]: Yeah, from the back of curb. So you're really almost forty feet from the back of curb. So you're only forty one feet. [2:20:50, 2:20:51]: from the curve. [2:20:51, 2:21:00]: Where the curve is at the start of the house for 41 feet, because there's 11-foot ride over there where all the utility verand is not included in the setup. [2:21:00, 2:21:01]: Gotcha. [2:21:04, 2:21:10]: Correct. Gotcha, thank you. Yeah, that's he's a developer, yes. Okay, thank you. Sorry. [2:21:13, 2:21:16]: Cool. That's all I have. Okay. Any other questions from the board? [2:21:17, 2:21:18]: Thank you. [2:21:21, 2:21:30]: With that, I'd like to open it to the community. So if you would, if you are in favor of the application, please form a line to the left. [2:21:32, 2:21:40]: If you are opposed to the right, make sure you sign the sheet. When you come forward, please speak into the microphone, state your name and your address, please. [2:21:45, 2:21:57]: Good afternoon. Can you hear me? Yes. I live at my name is Lawanda Detman and I live at two fifty Brandon's Walk. This development is literally in my backyard. [2:21:58, 2:22:18]: I oppose it. A hundred vehicles in that space. The Highway 42 traffic is already a nightmare. When I come home in the afternoon just to go from Eagles Landing and Highway 42 up to Brandon's Road, sometimes it [2:22:18, 2:22:23]: It takes twenty five it's just bumper to bumper to bumper. [2:22:25, 2:22:45]: The schools are already overcrowded and saturated. This development will do nothing to this area but make it worse. I don't see this making a benefit in no type of shape, form, or fashion to piggyback. [2:22:45, 2:23:05]: on what other people have been saying. These price points will literally go to people, investors, who will buy these properties up and this area will become transit. Even the gentleman who was presenting stated, this is a nice area and we want to keep [2:23:04, 2:23:24]: It that way. Bringing in a hundred families who have to have schools, who have to have more stress on the hospital, who have to have more stress on the area would not be beneficial at all. I think that you should oppose this in every way. [2:23:24, 2:23:32]: Putting up a barrier on my backyard to this development will not in any way. [2:23:34, 2:23:54]: uh create a barrier for the noise that's gonna come from there. I don't know exactly where that pool or that cabana is gonna be located. It could be located right in my backyard, literally. So I oppose this 100%. And I don't think that we should even allow [2:23:54, 2:24:12]: Allow 10% rentals because once you get rentals in an area, it becomes transient. And then you get crime and you get other things that are not desirable for this area. So I beg you to vote no. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. [2:24:15, 2:24:15]: Out of sheet. [2:24:19, 2:24:20]: I filled it out. [2:24:24, 2:24:24]: Go ahead. [2:24:26, 2:24:43]: Thank you, Mr. Vice Chairman, and I want to thank all you uh people here today that are uh doing this for us because uh I know you got a hard job. But let me start by saying my name is Ronald McNeil. I live in 259 Kensington Trace. That's in the park side at Eagles Landing that they showed on the screen there. [2:24:44, 2:24:51]: You already know that a few years ago you guys changed the pattern of traffic on Eagles Landing in forty two. [2:24:51, 2:24:57]: And it forced us no longer to be able to come out that exit and make a left turn on the Eagles Landing and go to Walmart. [2:24:58, 2:25:09]: That's cool. Progress. We love it. So we had to come out on forty uh highway forty-two in order to turn left and go to the light and make a left to go to Walmart. [2:25:10, 2:25:15]: That hidden incline coming up southbound on forty two. [2:25:16, 2:25:16]: is now [2:25:17, 2:25:19]: А main road for construction. [2:25:20, 2:25:21]: And track their trailers. [2:25:23, 2:25:24]: He says [2:25:25, 2:25:28]: Excuse me for pointing. So it's been mentioned that [2:25:28, 2:25:32]: There's no need for any traffic change because there's already a road there. [2:25:33, 2:25:34]: That's cool. [2:25:34, 2:25:36]: Only problem is like the young lady just said. [2:25:37, 2:25:38]: You can't get out. [2:25:38, 2:25:40]: At certain times of the day. [2:25:41, 2:25:43]: So we're forced to set our life pattern. [2:25:44, 2:25:46]: Based on a traffic situation. [2:25:47, 2:25:51]: I can't leave my house between four and six because nobody's gonna let me out. [2:25:52, 2:25:57]: The entrance to that neighborhood they want to build is actually a lot of times when I come out [2:25:57, 2:25:58]: In the morning. [2:25:59, 2:26:01]: A police car is sitting there. [2:26:01, 2:26:09]: Because they understand that the traffic pattern on that going up that hill, cars are racing trying to get around those tractor trailers. [2:26:09, 2:26:13]: And they're speeding, and we're stuck trying to wait to get out of our own neighborhood. [2:26:14, 2:26:15]: So I beg you. [2:26:15, 2:26:17]: Please, I bring you a solution. [2:26:18, 2:26:20]: If you tell me you're gonna build that place, fine. [2:26:21, 2:26:23]: Put a circle on Brandon Road and [2:26:24, 2:26:25]: And forty two. [2:26:25, 2:26:34]: That way those tractor trailers and trucks will not have to stop the light. They can continue on. And my exit, the only one I have. [2:26:35, 2:26:36]: To basically get out of my neighborhood. [2:26:37, 2:26:39]: Воно бі блок континуслі. [2:26:39, 2:26:42]: for ten, fifteen, twenty minutes,'cause they don't let you lay out out. [2:26:43, 2:26:46]: when they're trying to get to where they're going, headed southbound on forty two. [2:26:47, 2:26:48]: Thank you. [2:26:49, 2:26:51]: Thanks, sir. She's good. [2:26:57, 2:26:58]: Hello. [2:26:58, 2:27:05]: I'm Dan Anderson. I live at two forty one Brannon's Road, Brannon's Walk, which of course is [2:27:06, 2:27:07]: In my backyard. [2:27:08, 2:27:08]: Uh [2:27:09, 2:27:12]: They did mention a twenty five foot buffer. [2:27:13, 2:27:15]: But a twenty five foot buffer with uh [2:27:16, 2:27:17]: Two story [2:27:17, 2:27:21]: Town homes along back my back yard is [2:27:22, 2:27:26]: Зновура квает нейборгуд. [2:27:27, 2:27:30]: We like it quiet. It's not crowded. [2:27:31, 2:27:32]: And uh [2:27:32, 2:27:36]: That's that's all I've got to say. Thank you. Thank you, sir. [2:27:40, 2:27:45]: Good evening. My name's Brenda Woods and I live at two forty five Brandon's Walk. [2:27:46, 2:27:55]: which is in the cul-de-sac at the top of Brandon's Walk Road, and my property backs up to the proposed area of the building. [2:27:56, 2:28:00]: And for I have lived there for twenty six years. [2:28:00, 2:28:08]: In all those 26 years, I've had one incident happen at my house where somebody got into my husband's car and took some stuff out. [2:28:09, 2:28:19]: My fear is that bringing a hundred new homes to my backyard is going to cause crime coming to my back door. [2:28:21, 2:28:21]: I mean [2:28:23, 2:28:24]: The noise from a hundred [2:28:25, 2:28:38]: People living back there, the music, people hitting their car locks five times to make sure they're locked. Um car alarms could be set off at out all hours of the day and night. [2:28:38, 2:28:42]: And when they build, they'll cut down those trees. [2:28:42, 2:28:48]: Which will make the sun beam beat down into my windows and raise my electric bills. [2:28:49, 2:28:50]: Um [2:28:51, 2:29:00]: Most of the time I've lived back there, there's been nothing back there. Many years ago, they talked about putting a um office building. [2:29:01, 2:29:06]: Which I'd much rather have an office building back there because there wouldn't be people back there twenty four seven. [2:29:07, 2:29:25]: You know, there's gonna be lights probably from the street lights, the the houses, the noises coming, especially if there's a playground and a swimming pool. And of the seven houses that are at the top of that cul-de-sac, in that cul-de-sac, over half of us are senior citizens. [2:29:26, 2:29:30]: And one of the houses just sold. We have no clue who's moving in. [2:29:31, 2:29:32]: But [2:29:33, 2:29:41]: That was listed as being in a nice, peaceful, quiet neighborhood, which, if a hundred townhomes are built, [2:29:42, 2:29:45]: Next to us it's not gonna be nice and peaceful anymore. [2:29:46, 2:29:51]: And it's gonna cost me not only in electric bills, but if that's built. [2:29:51, 2:30:11]: I'm gonna have to change my curtains because wildlife doesn't care that I have sheer curtains or half curtains in my the back of my house, but I'm not gonna want people looking in my windows. And I go out on my back deck now, you hear the wildlife, the birds, the the crickets, the cicadas and everything. [2:30:12, 2:30:17]: I'd much rather hear that than a bunch of people back there, you know, partying or [2:30:18, 2:30:23]: just daily life. So it's gonna come out of my pocket. [2:30:24, 2:30:27]: And I don't think the fence that we have back there, the gate. [2:30:27, 2:30:39]: My husband put a um like a barn style door that slides. I don't think there's any way we could lock that fence. So if I have to change that, that's gonna come out of my pocket. [2:30:40, 2:30:53]: And I would think if they do build, I'd like to see them have to put a buffer like what's on the side of the highway to keep the noise and the light down. [2:30:53, 2:31:01]: And it's like I like my quiet, safe neighborhood. I don't need to have a hundred people in my backyard. Thank you. [2:31:02, 2:31:02]: Thank you. [2:31:07, 2:31:12]: Good evening. My name is Demetria January. [2:31:12, 2:31:17]: Um, I live at eight twenty five Rock Lane. I live in Lakeside at Eagles Landing. [2:31:18, 2:31:38]: And um I'm also the treasurer of our HOA. Um, I had my house built 20 years ago, and the main reason I had it because of the quote unquote Eagles Landing area, the prestigious Eagles Landing area and the country club. And the reason why I'm standing here today to oppose [2:31:38, 2:31:38]: Biz. [2:31:39, 2:31:40]: Um [2:31:40, 2:31:46]: building of these town homes. Um, I'm already having problem trying to get out on East Lake. [2:31:47, 2:31:50]: With the traffic coming in and with these one hundred [2:31:50, 2:31:52]: Townhouses being built on forty two. [2:31:53, 2:31:54]: That's gonna create more traffic. [2:31:55, 2:31:56]: And as you know that [2:31:57, 2:31:59]: You have Echo, the school. [2:31:59, 2:32:06]: And people know how much traffic is on 42. Not only that, but it's so much traffic when there was an accident on 75. [2:32:07, 2:32:10]: Where all the traffic get route to forty two. [2:32:10, 2:32:17]: So with him saying that no need for anything to be done with forty two or anything. [2:32:17, 2:32:37]: I think we should oppose this. It's just too much congestion or anything like that. And we don't and we really don't need town homes in that area. Um we value our property. We value the Eagles Landing Country Club, the community area. And I just think that by building tone homes and with them coming out on 42, it will be a setback for. [2:32:37, 2:32:47]: for the area. So I just wish you would consider um what I'm saying and um opposed to building up the town homes. Thank you. [2:32:48, 2:32:48]: Thank you, ma'am. [2:32:51, 2:32:51]: Anyone else? [2:32:54, 2:32:54]: Yeah. [2:32:55, 2:32:56]: With that, yes, sir. [2:32:58, 2:32:58]: Yeah. [2:33:02, 2:33:11]: Okay, I jotted down just a few of the concerns and and and I and I do hear the concerns and um I just I wanted to address a few of'em as far as traffic goes. [2:33:12, 2:33:13]: Um [2:33:13, 2:33:29]: It is it's my understanding that Highway forty two is on the DOT's list to be widened in the next however many years that is. But uh the fact that it is on the list should provide a little bit of solace to to those uh who who live around there. But I do understand the traffic. [2:33:29, 2:33:31]: А інстаф'с репорт. [2:33:32, 2:33:38]: They did do uh they did look at the traffic impact of this um this development on the highway. [2:33:38, 2:33:51]: And in the report it does say that the average daily uh traffic on highway forty two is seventeen thousand two hundred vehicles. So our hundred vehicles a day is is [2:33:51, 2:34:00]: kind of a drop in the bucket um compared to the amount of traffic that's already on there. And the staff report does say that it would have very minimal, if any, impact whatsoever. [2:34:01, 2:34:21]: Um as far as the price point of our houses, our units, they are very comparable and even exceed some of the surrounding uh price points of the houses around us. Uh we've gone and looked at some of those, some of the houses that are for sale, the recent sales and the ones that are for sale now. Um [2:34:21, 2:34:28]: And they are very comparable, or if not more, in some some cases, uh than some of the surrounding properties. [2:34:29, 2:34:30]: Um [2:34:30, 2:34:50]: A lady brought up a question about rentals. Um we don't in we don't intend to have any rentals. I know the staff put in there a maximum of ten percent rentals. Uh we would be fine with zero percent rentals uh because we have no intentions of of doing any rentals. It is for sale only. Um and then the buffers. These uh these buffers [2:34:50, 2:35:10]: will be planted uh very heavily um to uh screen the our subdivision from the neighbor's subdivision and vice versa. Um we'll also have you know the street lights uh the way they make them nowadays are all led downlit so uh the uh the light glare is not uh [2:35:10, 2:35:22]: you know, doesn't spill over into the neighbor properties. So um hopefully that addresses just a few of the issues. I I know that probably doesn't, you know, uh answer all the questions, but uh [2:35:22, 2:35:29]: But hopefully it provides a little bit of information of of kinda where we're coming from. So you have any questions I'll be glad to answer that. [2:35:31, 2:35:32]: Questions from the board? [2:35:35, 2:35:37]: All right, thank you, Storper. Thank you. [2:35:40, 2:35:53]: Okay, in regard to rezoning case RZ 2024-06, comprehensive plan CP 2024-06 may have a motion to approve or deny. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion to approve the plan. [2:35:54, 2:35:56]: In this hero, I'll second it. [2:36:01, 2:36:07]: All in favor signify by raising of hands and aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [2:36:09, 2:36:10]: Mr. Matthews opposed. [2:36:15, 2:36:21]: Mr. Jaden, Mr. Harold, Mr. David, approved. The applicant in the motion is approved. [2:36:35, 2:36:47]: Okay, that's it for the agenda for tonight. Thank you everyone for coming. Thank you for your comments. Mr. Chair. Yes. We didn't we that was just for the comprehensive plan, correct? We do we need to vote on the variances? [2:36:48, 2:36:49]: I'm sorry. [2:36:50, 2:36:52]: I'm sorry. Okay. [2:37:01, 2:37:05]: Understood. Okay, so the rezoning plan was approved. [2:37:09, 2:37:17]: Comprehensive plan CP twenty four. CP twenty twenty four dash zero six. Just the variances individually, I'm sorry. [2:37:20, 2:37:25]: I thought you said I you just did the conference of plan the results together. [2:37:26, 2:37:31]: Okay. But we can vote on the variances together. [2:37:37, 2:37:44]: separate votes on the variance cases. That's why they are now listed separately on the agenda. Okay, that's what I was asking. [2:37:52, 2:37:52]: I will. [2:37:55, 2:37:55]: I will. [2:38:01, 2:38:08]: For the record, rezoning case twenty twenty-four zero six. I have a motion to approve or deny. [2:38:10, 2:38:13]: Motion to approve. Mr. Jaden approves. [2:38:15, 2:38:23]: May have a second, please. I second and Harold. Harold seconds. All in favor? Motion of aye and a raised hand. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? [2:38:25, 2:38:30]: Mr. Thomas is opposed. The rezoning is approved. [2:38:33, 2:38:38]: In regard to the contr comprehensive plan, CP twenty twenty four dash zero six. [2:38:40, 2:38:42]: I have a motion to approve or deny. [2:38:44, 2:38:45]: I thought we did that one first. [2:38:46, 2:38:53]: No, we did the rezoning. We just did the rezoning. Now we're doing the con comprehensive plan. I made one motion for the comprehensive plan. [2:38:53, 2:39:02]: What I made a motion for the comprehensive plan and it was approved. Okay. That was it. Ms. Logan, are you good with that? Now we move on to rezoning. [2:39:04, 2:39:08]: Rezoning was just voted on. And I'd like to make a motion we approve the rezoning. [2:39:08, 2:39:13]: I just did rezoning. We just did rezoning and it was approved. From C two to M F R. [2:39:14, 2:39:15]: Okay. [2:39:17, 2:39:21]: Rezoning was done separately. It was just done. It was approved. Three to one. [2:39:23, 2:39:28]: Ms. Logan, we voted on the comprehensive plan prior. Are we good three one? [2:39:29, 2:39:30]: Yes. [2:39:30, 2:39:32]: Okay, let's vote on the variances, please. [2:39:36, 2:39:39]: Variance case VR twenty twenty four zero two. [2:39:43, 2:39:48]: This is item number nine. This is for the required fifty feet to thirty feet. [2:39:49, 2:39:53]: May I have a in a I'm sorry, may I have a motion to approve or deny? [2:39:54, 2:39:55]: Motion to deny. [2:39:57, 2:39:58]: Ms. Jaden. [2:39:59, 2:40:01]: Those to deny? May have a second. [2:40:02, 2:40:13]: Second. Mr. Thomas seconds. All in favor? Aye. Raised hand. Aye. I say no. Nay. [2:40:15, 2:40:16]: David? Nay. [2:40:17, 2:40:25]: That's two two on the variance. The vice chair will vote. No. Is opposed. [2:40:26, 2:40:27]: Variance is denied. [2:40:32, 2:40:44]: Uh Chairman, I think you need to reconsider that. I I don't you say it is denied. If if you didn't have enough votes to run it through, then it would be It was fifty fifty. [2:40:45, 2:40:47]: And then you said no. I said no. [2:40:48, 2:40:48]: Mm. [2:40:51, 2:40:55]: Chair. Yes. Motion to approve uh variance number two. [2:40:58, 2:41:03]: That's item number ten, correct? Yes, sir. I second it. David seconds it. [2:41:05, 2:41:11]: All in favor signify with raised hands and aye. Aye. Aye. The motion is approved. [2:41:16, 2:41:18]: Any other business? Staff comments? [2:41:23, 2:41:26]: All right, thanks everyone for your patience. Appreciate you showing up tonight. [2:41:28, 2:41:38]: May I have a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second, second. Second. Go ahead. All in favor, aye. Aye. Aye. We are adjourned. Thank you. [2:42:05, 2:42:05]: Sure. [2:42:11, 2:42:12]: Yeah, dang um. [2:42:15, 2:42:15]: Yeah. [2:42:19, 2:42:20]: Oh, that's right.
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    --- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-08-12 source: 2024-08-12_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:02:11, 0:02:21]: And hopefully uh [0:02:23, 0:02:41]: Come on, you come on down folks. Come on. So this is our ceremony portion of uh our city council meeting this evening. So once again I want to start with the proclamation for uh Brianna's heart of Go. See that's as far as that goes. Okay. I'm pretty sure it picked me up. All right. [0:02:42, 0:03:02]: So this is in recognition of Branna's Heart of Gold. Whereas Brianna's Heart of Gold Incorporated, a 501c3 nonprofit, was created to honor the life of Brianna Brooks and the four lives she saved with her organ donation. And whereas when Brianna Brooks received her driving permit, she made a decision to register as an organ donor. And with that said, [0:03:02, 0:03:05]: Single act she would change the lives of others forever. [0:03:05, 0:03:19]: It was no surprise that Brianna made that decision. From a young age she felt destined to help people. And whereas the mission of Brianna's Heart of Gold Incorporated is to educate others about the importance of owner organ, excuse me, organ donor. [0:03:19, 0:03:20]: Donation. [0:03:21, 0:03:36]: Whereas the decision to be an owner, uh organ donor, can be a tough conversation because your family may feel uneasy about donating your organs. It's important that you get the facts and myths about organ donation. And whereas Brianna's legacy continues through [0:03:36, 0:03:39]: her three children and recipients of her organs. [0:03:40, 0:03:46]: In her darkest moment she gave light to life and life to others. Whereas donation and transplant uh transplantation [0:03:46, 0:03:51]: can uh take place successfully between individuals from different racial and ethnic backgrounds, groups. [0:03:52, 0:03:56]: Transplant assess is often better when organs are matched between people. [0:03:56, 0:03:58]: The same racial and ethnic background. [0:03:58, 0:04:18]: People African American, Black and Asian, slash Pacific Islander, Hispanic Latino, and American Indian, Alaskan Native, and multiracial descent currently make up nearly fifty-eight percent of the individuals on the nation, screen on the national organ transplant waiting list. These communities are in great need of more organ and tissue donors. Now therefore [0:04:18, 0:04:23]: I am Mayor Anthony S. Four by virtual authority vesting me as a mayor city star breeze, Georgia. [0:04:23, 0:04:29]: On behalf of City Council members Ellen Alexander, Lana, Barber Kyle, Berry, Lakeisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas do [0:04:29, 0:04:36]: Recognize Brianna Brooks and encourage to donate organs and save lives, or encourage others to get educated on organ donation. [0:04:36, 0:04:39]: To be a symbol of hope for those who are waiting. [0:04:39, 0:04:49]: And witness hereof I have hereundo set my hand under great seal see Stockbridge, Georgia, on the twelfth day of August year of our Lord, two thousand twenty four, and I signed the proclamation alone and clerk for us on holiday. [0:04:55, 0:05:06]: So you wanna wanna come over here for a picture here? And then of course the the floor is gonna be yours here shortly. All right, everybody? Okay. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: I wanna let go of that so you can hold that? [0:05:09, 0:05:10]: Okay. [0:05:13, 0:05:19]: Good, got all got all pictures? [0:05:26, 0:05:32]: Yeah, I'm not sure. Okay. [0:05:33, 0:05:53]: Well, I just want to thank the City of Stockbridge for this honor. And want to let everyone know this month is actually special because it is National Minority Donor Awareness Month. So it is important that in our community that we encourage our families to be registered donors. And like he had stated, uh nationwide, we are at the bottom of being registered donors. [0:05:53, 0:06:13]: And we have a better match of matching if we register to help those. Brianna was able to save three black men. And her liver recipient is a black man who also started his own nonprofit to encourage others to be donors. So I'm just glad that you all are here and I hope that y'all spread the word about Brianna's heart of gold and what we're doing to [0:06:13, 0:06:16]: add people to the registry. Thank you. [0:06:21, 0:06:22]: What's the [0:06:22, 0:06:24]: The black just from one later. [0:06:26, 0:06:26]: Okay. [0:06:27, 0:06:28]: Dr. Phillips. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: You walked in just in time. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: Come come on up, my man. [0:06:41, 0:06:47]: People from Trois and Smoke and David said about five thirty. Okay. And then several others know. Okay. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: I'm a good one. [0:06:51, 0:06:57]: Welcome back to the city council meeting. Uh want you want you come on this side please? Okay. [0:06:58, 0:07:13]: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Dr. Amanda Phillips. And so we're going to issue her our city proclamation as well. I'm going to read through this and you'll see why we've decided to do this with this outstanding lady that has retired and been a privileged. They're doing a lot of great things in the city of Stockbridge. [0:07:15, 0:07:35]: Whereas Dr. Amanda Phillips is retiring from as a attending physician, partner of the Eagles Landing OB G Y N McDonough, Georgia. Whereas Dr. Phillips is a graduate of Emory University and with a Bachelor of Science pursued her medical uh degree with the University of South Carolina and established herself as a practicing obetrician and uh [0:07:35, 0:07:55]: uh oncologist, if I got her pronounced right. She has practiced over 20 years serving as a partner of Eagle Landing's OBGYN and has demonstrated her commitment to professional professional professional excellence by charting uh excuse me by chairing the Department of Office Strengths, obstetics Obstetrics Obstetrics. [0:07:54, 0:08:02]: And gene genealogy at the Piemont Henry Hospital. And whereas beyond her medical practice, Dr. Phillips had is an accomplished entrepreneur. [0:08:03, 0:08:19]: Owning a real estate investment company since 2008, her servant spirit extends to her roles on various boards, including Denver Homes and Haven House, where she has played a vital role in supporting the disabled and victims of domestic violence, respectively. [0:08:19, 0:08:23]: She joined the board of the Center for Black Women Wellness at a clinic. [0:08:23, 0:08:24]: I want to show women. [0:08:25, 0:08:26]: In twenty uh twenty four. [0:08:27, 0:08:47]: She also joined the Southern Crescent Habitat for Humanity board. Most recently, Dr. Phillips regularly mentors high school and college students, speaks on panels to educate the community, volunteers at health fairs and free clinics, supports the fundraisers for several nonprofit organizations. And whereas Dr. Phillips is a dedicated alumni and has contributed significantly. [0:08:46, 0:09:03]: to Emory University, establishing a doctor in Manor Copeland Phillips Endowment Scholarship in 2019. She serves as a mentor in her program. Her philanthropic endeavors extended to supporting Georgia rural hospitals and paying off student lunch balances in Henry County schools. [0:09:03, 0:09:06]: Demonstrained her commitment to education and community welfare. [0:09:06, 0:09:12]: Whereas Dr. Phillips is actually engaged in improving healthcare standards and currently serves as a senior peer reviewer. [0:09:12, 0:09:15]: Piemont health care contributing to professional development. [0:09:15, 0:09:17]: for enhanced patient safety. [0:09:17, 0:09:35]: Additionally, Dr. Phyllis founded the Henry County Islamic Center, serving as a board vice president and treasurer, showcasing her commitment to fostering inclusive and supportive communities. And therefore, I and Mayor Anthony S. Ford by virtual authority investing me as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. On my half of City Council members Elton, Alan Xander Londa, Barber Cowberry, [0:09:35, 0:09:39]: The case again at Fonzo Thomas to hereby congratulate Dr. Man Phil Phillips. [0:09:40, 0:09:40]: On her retirement. [0:09:41, 0:09:46]: And we thank you for your outstanding contributions, dedication, leadership, and making a positive impact in the community. [0:09:47, 0:10:01]: A witness whereof we have I have here unto set my hand a great seal of Stockbridge, Georgia, the twelfth day of the year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-four. And I signed this proclamation along with uh Clip Vanessa Holiday. Congratulations. [0:10:04, 0:10:14]: What once we get between him and I and then oh you okay. Did you I w anybody else you want any photographs? You know? My husband. Okay, sir, you want you you need to be in the photographs, sir? Come on. [0:10:16, 0:10:18]: [621.3, 622.1]: All right. [0:10:34, 0:10:40]: And then you go back to the right. [0:10:43, 0:10:49]: Congratulations. Thank you. No, matter of fact, the mic is yours. If you the floor is yours, whatever comments you're willing to make. Congratulations, please. [0:10:51, 0:11:00]: I would just like to thank the City of Stockbridge for recognizing um community servants and um for all the work that they do for the community. Thank you. [0:11:04, 0:11:05]: Remember? [0:11:06, 0:11:06]: Yeah. [0:11:06, 0:11:26]: As you see and as I read through that process, she's been a great asset to us in the community. It's done a lot of different things with the City Stockbridge in our community. So uh we welcome her success in her retirement. Congratulations on that. And I know she's gonna have a great impact on other endeavors that she does. And as long as she keeps Stockbridge in her mind to continue to do those great things, which is fantastic, but I know you have a lot of things that you want to do. [0:11:26, 0:11:30]: So God bless you and and wish you the best of luck. Is that Zen? All right. [0:11:32, 0:11:32]: Wait. [0:11:33, 0:11:53]: We certainly want to thank Dr. Phillips and the entire team that she works with, because she is a philanthropist that gives throughout the community, as was said and that was stated. We certainly appreciate everything that you do. And we do recognize that the practice was in stock for you for quite some time. And certainly you're still just a hop skiffing of. [0:11:52, 0:12:03]: jumping away. So certainly we know that you deserve these years of retirement, but we know you won't be sitting down. We know you'll still be working. So continue to do what you do. [0:12:04, 0:12:05]: Thank you. [0:12:10, 0:12:16]: All right, well you know what I like to do now is I like to uh bring up our Chief of Police, Frank Champler, sir. [0:12:19, 0:12:39]: Now on the list it has here about what the priest advisory committee has done. All right. And instead of me trying to uh mention that and acknowledge all that, is your department served, the team of folks that you work with the citizens and stoppers, I'm glad to have you announce this particular award that you esteemly uh [0:12:38, 0:12:47]: received along with members of the the academy that may be here, such as Mr. Nee Robinson. Come on up. All right. Come on. [0:12:48, 0:12:51]: But you [0:12:52, 0:13:01]: Mayor, you give me a lot of credit, but really the credit's not mine. In all honesty, um you all have to have some of the credit for this as well, because if you recall [0:13:02, 0:13:04]: When we started the Stockbridge Police Department up, um [0:13:05, 0:13:25]: It was uh in discussion we talked about the fact that we wanted our community involved in uh programming policing for this community. And um obviously uh you've heard me say this before probably that uh policing is not something we do to our community, we do in partnership with our community. So we have members of our community that serve on [0:13:24, 0:13:44]: The council and the mayor appoint a member from each of their respective areas. I appoint somebody from the patrol zones in the city. We have members of our business community, our faith-based community, and we even have a member from our youth advisory council that participates on this. And once a month we sit around, as a matter of fact, a lot more than that and we talk about the issues that are [0:13:44, 0:13:51]: are occurring in the community, what are the priorities for members of our community as it relates to public safety programming. [0:13:51, 0:13:58]: And they work collaboratively with us. So we have strong partnerships with our community, represents all interests in the community. [0:13:58, 0:14:02]: And um this is something that the mayor and the council [0:14:02, 0:14:22]: had um uh wanted in conjunction with me as part of what it is that uh we're doing in terms of community policing, 21st century policing uh principles. And um so this is really out of our vision, but I can't take all the credit because it's our wonderful uh team members, and I will say volunteer team members that meet with us on a regular basis. [0:14:22, 0:14:38]: to talk about uh items that are of concern and how we can work together to address those issues. And so I think that as it relates to the impact uh that we're having and what it is that we're doing, then uh maybe we could hear from our advisory council members so they can talk to you about that. Thank you. [0:14:40, 0:15:00]: Well, thank you, Chief, and thank you to Mayor and Councilman Alexander. Um, this is just something that was well needed here in the city. Um, we each have zones and we are able to be the voice for those zones for the community. So if you need more um um patrolling in your community. [0:15:00, 0:15:20]: That's what we talk about. If you see something, we always say say something. Um, so we're just grateful for the chief and his team to put this all together so that we can have an additional voice outside of the council that is here during the council meetings. So if you see any one of us, um you're [0:15:20, 0:15:40]: These meetings are open to the public. But if you see any one of us, please reach out because if you have any concerns about what's going on in your neighborhood, then please bring that to us because we want to be the voice so that way they can continue to patrol, but they still want to know what's going on. So we're just making them aware what's happening in our community. [0:15:40, 0:15:57]: So again, this is open for others. So please get involved. They have the the police citizen academy as well. So please look into that once you go to the city's website because it's a a viable tool that you that you can be involved in the community. [0:16:01, 0:16:04]: You might be yours? [0:16:04, 0:16:24]: Well hello. Yes, I'm a member as well. And I wanna again wanna thank Chief for everything he does in the community community. Not only are we a part of the uh council, but Chief does an amazing job in ensuring that the police that are policing our areas look like us and represent us and also hold them accountable as needed. [0:16:24, 0:16:28]: Which is why I'm a part of the uh council as well. Thank you. [0:16:31, 0:16:51]: And the the last thing, I think the reason that we're here is uh in recognition. So there are over eleven hundred law enforcement agencies in the state of Georgia. And um our police advisory accounts uh council, uh every year the Georgia Chiefs uh Association of Chiefs of Police um gives an award to uh three police departments across the state that implement innovative programs. [0:16:51, 0:17:02]: programs that represent best practices in policing and our advisory council was one of three finalists for the Motorola Award of Excellence uh during this year's Chief of Police conference. So [0:17:04, 0:17:22]: That's that's quite an accomplishment and um there's a lot of talk about community policing, but I will say this, having been in the field for twenty five years, uh we're not doing it well enough, but we are doing it extremely well here in Stockbridge. Uh we're very connected with our community and uh after all this is uh where community connects, right? And we're doing it here. So thank you. [0:17:24, 0:17:35]: [1060.0, 1070.3]: Okay one, hold on, hold on, it's still it's on the reception. [0:17:53, 0:17:58]: Is uh Mr. Glenn here. Mark Glenn. [0:18:00, 0:18:05]: Okay, and totally the border. Come on up, sir. [0:18:13, 0:18:20]: Well actually, um seven. [0:18:25, 0:18:29]: Well ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to square these uh once you get on this side, please. Yes sir. [0:18:30, 0:18:30]: [1112.4, 1132.4]: I'm gonna swear on these uh two individuals here um for the Public Facilities Authority. And geez, I don't know where Mr. Glenn is, but we're gonna go move forward with this, all right? So if you all can just uh raise your right hand and I'm gonna read this in small little snippets and leave for you to respond and plead after me, okay? I [0:18:52, 0:19:12]: State your anointing, state your name. I enter your board. Board member. Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That it will faithfully performed. That will faithfully perform. The duties of the public facilities authority. Duties of the city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support [0:19:12, 0:19:32]: The th the charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution and the and laws and laws of the state of Georgia. The state of Georgia. In the United States of America. In the United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that. Upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:19:32, 0:19:52]: You know, on the current public money. Do I'm payable to the state? Or payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state, any political subdivision. The city of Scott Bridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold, nor do I hold any other office of trust. [0:19:52, 0:20:12]: Of the government, of the United States, of this state, of this or any foreign state as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge and to the best of my ability. [0:20:12, 0:20:20]: Without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward, or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. [0:20:20, 0:20:23]: There. And this is the twelfth day of August twenty twenty four. [0:20:24, 0:20:42]: Okay, congratulations. You need to sign the document as well with me and uh the vessel our current will also sign it and uh we'll take some pictures. As a matter of fact, while I'm signing, any one of you have the floor to make any comments you'd like. [0:20:43, 0:20:54]: Go ahead, ms go ahead. Um thank you. Um City of Stockbridge. It's an honor and I'm here to [0:20:55, 0:20:59]: Help the community and stand for positivity. Thank you so much. [0:21:03, 0:21:15]: I do want to say thank you for the opportunity and the trust. And as stated, no fear or favor. I will stand and uphold for the best for the community of Stockbridge. So thank you all. [0:21:20, 0:21:40]: I think it is important that you understand what this board does. This board is one of the tools that we have in the toolbox for improve improving the community. What they did was through municipal bonds, they were able to finance the Stockbridge Amphitheater Project for us and municipal projects. So what they do is they deliberate. [0:21:40, 0:22:00]: And they decide and they um look at the financials on what needs to be done in order to pay for these programs efficiently. And the mayor will be able to tell you in just a second how outstanding a job they're doing on the amphitheater and the financials. Right, Mayor? Okay, well thank you, sir, for that. And somebody's [0:22:00, 0:22:05]: getting at is that uh this is August of twenty twenty four. By August of twenty twenty five. [0:22:05, 0:22:10]: Next off, one year from now, the amphitheater we totally paid off$22.5 million. [0:22:14, 0:22:27]: Twenty two point five million dollars, a little more than four years, okay? And then all we just have to do is maintain it. Just like you gotta maintain your house and your car and your body, you just gotta maintain it, right? So on that note, since you said that and I brought this you brought this up. [0:22:27, 0:22:45]: We got a concert coming in this weekend, Starberg AMP dot com. And we got several more during the course of the year. So if you haven't been there, come by. If you've been there, come back. All right? It's for you, it's for our community. Uh so we need to take some pictures here, I can imagine. All right? Yeah. Please, just a little bit more so we get to press city in the background. [0:22:45, 0:22:50]: It's just built with a sweat thing, it's okay. [0:23:00, 0:23:10]: Uh absolutely. And the rest of the assignments and then get this these documents to you, okay? [0:23:17, 0:23:20]: And you know what I've excused. [0:23:30, 0:23:40]: There you go, so appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I've just used my uh right, that's what's going on, right? Okay. [0:23:44, 0:23:48]: And I have another proclamation here and this one is dealing with Black Business Month. [0:23:48, 0:24:00]: And I'll tell you these ceremonial, all the swearing in and ceremonial proclamations are uh some of the uh highlights I think of of what what I do and my responsibility, what I and the council do we do in this aspect as well. [0:24:00, 0:24:01]: So [0:24:01, 0:24:03]: On that note, before I read this. [0:24:03, 0:24:07]: If anybody is has a a business, they're a black business owner. [0:24:08, 0:24:09]: Come on up and join. [0:24:10, 0:24:12]: Come on, all of you. Whoever who is everywhere. [0:24:12, 0:24:13]: Come on. [0:24:15, 0:24:16]: Warren's a new word. Okay. [0:24:24, 0:24:29]: And here's what's gonna happen after I read this, you all I'm gonna give you all the mic. [0:24:29, 0:24:33]: And you're gonna talk about your particular business. And hopefully your business is a stop rich. [0:24:34, 0:24:54]: I'm really kind of joking with you, but okay, honestly. Okay, let's go. So Black Business Month. Whereas Black Business Month is celebrated in August is a time to acknowledge and appreciate black owned businesses across the nation and all that represent our country's continual striving for diversity and equality. Whereas the history of Black Business Month can be traced [0:24:54, 0:25:06]: back to the year 2004 when historian John William Templeton and engineer Frederick E. Jordan Sr. found a National Black Business Month to highlight the and empower black business owners. [0:25:06, 0:25:17]: Whereas in nineteen uh nineteen fifteen, with the establishment of of the National Negro Business League, there was a widespread support of African American entrepreneurship and a nation uh national business league spreading [0:25:17, 0:25:28]: To over thirty-four states. By two thousand two, one point two million of the United States and twenty-three million businesses were owned by black people, bringing in a revenue of over a hundred and fifty billion. [0:25:28, 0:25:41]: Whereas when we celebrate the contribution of black business owners and entrepreneurs, it pays homage to them and their legacies, especially since celebrating this month, recognizing the importance of black owned businesses when it comes to contributing to the nation's economy. [0:25:42, 0:25:54]: Approximately ten percent of all Afric American businesses are black owned. And if we look at what the stick is say, this is to say about minority owned businesses, about thirty percent of these would belong to black business owners. [0:25:54, 0:26:11]: The primary sectors in which black owned businesses operate include healthcare, social work, repair and maintenance, beauty salons, restaurants, and more. And whereas black businesses have also is also an important role and play towards supporting student and education and giving funds towards scholarships and minority students. [0:26:11, 0:26:31]: And therefore, I am Mayor Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vested than me, as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Ellen Alexander, Landa, Barber, Kyle, Berry, Lucissa Gantt, and Afonso Thomas, you hereby proclaim August 2024 as Black Business Month and call upon Stockbridge Community to support and encourage African American owned businesses in the community. In witness thereof, I have [0:26:31, 0:26:43]: I have here unto Sabbath in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the twelfth day of August, year of our Lord, 2024. And I signed the proclamation along with a clerk for Nessa Holmes Day. Okay? [0:26:46, 0:27:04]: I I have I have several of these and if we don't have enough we'll produce we'll get you we'll get you one, okay? So is it is this one business here? Okay, there that's yours? Okay, okay. We one per business if we if we have them all then we'll any shortfalls we'll produce more. Okay? If that's the case. All right, we got enough? [0:27:05, 0:27:13]: You got enough? All right. Now, so since I'm since I'm right-handed, I'm gonna say I'm gonna start on this side and any comments that you wanna make. [0:27:14, 0:27:14]: Sure. [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: The floor is yours. [0:27:16, 0:27:19]: No, no, that's the short. [0:27:21, 0:27:41]: Good evening. First and foremost, um, Mayor, thank you very much. It's very good to see you again. Councilman Alexander, very good to see you again as well. And it's so very exciting to see and be here with each and every one of you. Um as I won't say I'm we're new to Georgia, but the business is new to Stockbridge. [0:27:41, 0:27:51]: So we are the director and deputy director of Smith Academy of Excellence for Exceptional Scholars. And so [0:27:51, 0:28:11]: We have a predominantly our population students who have autism, but also as you know, the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. There are 13 distinct disability categories. So we do serve all students with disabilities. And our educational partner is the University of Missouri Columbia. [0:28:11, 0:28:14]: That there's some background with the mayor with being from Missouri. [0:28:15, 0:28:35]: And so we are really excited to be located in Stockbridge. We're truly excited to be serving the community. The parents are phenomenal. The community has been phenomenal. We have major community partners. And what Smith Academy stands for is scholar mastery through instruction, training. [0:28:35, 0:28:55]: Training and homes, school, and community partnerships. Because we want our parents to know that we stand with them, between them, holding hands. So when they leave us, that they can go out into this same great community and have a future and be very productive because our students deserve that as well. [0:28:55, 0:28:55]: As well. [0:28:57, 0:28:58]: Hi. [0:28:59, 0:29:00]: Yeah. [0:29:02, 0:29:11]: Dr. Smith pretty much covered it all, um, what Smith Academy stands for and as the city stands for, where community connects. Um, it's about allowing our students to know [0:29:11, 0:29:31]: What goes beyond the schoolhouse for them? That they can go into their banks, that they can go into their grocery stores in the local restaurants and not feel as if they're not being included within those environments. So it's about setting up our students for success beyond the schoolhouse. And that's why it's so important for moments like this where we're able to connect with the community and let our students and our families. [0:29:31, 0:29:33]: know what's also available to them. [0:29:34, 0:29:34]: Yeah. [0:29:35, 0:29:36]: Thank you. [0:29:38, 0:29:48]: Good evening everyone. My name is Diane Miller. I am the owner and curator of the historic Greenfront Cafe, which is one of the best kept secrets here in Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:29:49, 0:30:09]: Thank you. Originally opened in 1947 by Miss Carrie May Hambrick. Uh sh the our beautiful green front cafe sits right in the middle of the historic district, uh which is right behind the food depot, not too far, maybe about a mile away from here. Uh we have the best sold food. Got a little bit of Taste of Jamaica as well in it. If you have [0:30:09, 0:30:12]: have an opportunity, please come by and see us and be a part of history. [0:30:17, 0:30:20]: Hello everyone. Antonio Gordon here. Um [0:30:20, 0:30:29]: I'm the owner of Twelve Hundred Management and I'm also a celebrity barber too. So like I travel around and cut hair too. So um [0:30:29, 0:30:43]: And management is with the kids with music or um uh uh a gospel church, um hip hop R and B, but you know what I'm saying? Music is what I do. Thank y'all so much. [0:30:46, 0:31:06]: Hello again. I'm Angela White, and I'm actually representing three businesses because my mom could not be here today. But I'm representing Balloons by Sharon J, which is my mother, Sharon Jenkins, which is located at 416 Eagles Landing Parkway. And she basically does all types of balloon decor, events, corporate, all types of things. [0:31:06, 0:31:26]: So please contact us if you need anything. And then JW Event Suite, which is an event space that you've probably passed at some point on Eagles Landing Parkway. And then JW Event Rentals and Decor, which is in Stockbridge as well. So we handle all types of events. And I really thank City of Stockbridge for supporting us since we came in. [0:31:26, 0:31:42]: in the community in 2018, even though I am born and raised and grew up in Stockbridge, but we started our business in Stockbridge in 2018 and they have always supported our business literally from the day we opened, the mayor and Elton were there. So thank you all. [0:31:48, 0:32:08]: Hi, my name is Mindy Mayers, LCSW, and I'm a therapist and I provide mental health therapy, specializing primarily in substance abuse, PTSD, and working with veterans. So thank you. And I also provide supervision to people who don't have their full licensure to help them get their licensure to be a therapist. [0:32:08, 0:32:10]: So thank you so much for the opportunity. [0:32:15, 0:32:31]: Hello, my name is Liz Thibodeau and I'm the owner of Serenity Hair Designs, which is located at four one four Eagles Landing Parkway. We're neighbors. So if you ride past, you'll see us both. Uh I've been in the community um [0:32:32, 0:32:39]: I think since two thousand and twelve, twelve or thirteen. And uh if you all are in need of any kind of service. [0:32:40, 0:32:43]: Come and see us. We have Brader, we have [0:32:43, 0:32:45]: А піп дува с сорта сервис. [0:32:46, 0:32:50]: Thank you all both for inviting Elton and the Mirror. Thank you. [0:32:57, 0:33:17]: Hello again, I'm Dr. Amanda Phillips. I am retiring partner of Eagles Landing OBGYN, which had been in Stockbridge until last year for about 36 years, I think since 1987. But my other um business is Iman Developments, which is a real estate investment business. [0:33:17, 0:33:25]: That's been registered in Stockbridge since 2008. And I do short, mid, and long term rentals. Thank you. [0:33:31, 0:33:51]: Hello everyone. So I have um Young Dreamers, Young Legacy Learning Academy, which focuses on boys from the age of six to thirteen. Because as being in the school system, I felt like after school was the boys weren't getting what they needed. It was just being told, just go sit down and shut your mouth. And I wanted to create an in [0:33:51, 0:34:11]: Environment where boys can be boys, where they can learn how to build, where they can use their hands and creativity. And so we are housed right in the Stockbridge Presbyterian Church, right across the street. And I also have a nonprofit called Young Dreamers International, focus on boys again, but those are young men from the age of 15 to 25, because I believe [0:34:11, 0:34:21]: believe that we are the we are the solution to the problem and we cannot allow our boys to just go roaming on the street without no guidance. Just this weekend my son [0:34:22, 0:34:28]: After not figuring out just figuring out what he wanted to do, he graduated from the Navy booth camp and [0:34:30, 0:34:38]: I saw just me pouring into him consistently how I send in a young boy. [0:34:38, 0:34:45]: But when I came and I visited him, he became a man. And that's what I want to do for other boys. Thank you. [0:34:52, 0:34:53]: Good afternoon. [0:34:54, 0:34:59]: My name is Shalan Kay Bomani. I founded Black Money Movement. [0:35:00, 0:35:01]: Thank you. [0:35:01, 0:35:21]: Uh to the mayor of Stockbridge and to you, sir, um, for having us here this day. It's a great uh honor to be recognized uh during this Black Business Month, which is new to me. But um so Black Money Movement is all about our people and wealth building. Uh when I got here [0:35:21, 0:35:41]: I'd say about four years ago. I've been here 10 years, but about four years ago, I was introduced to some people who spoke to me about money in ways that I had never heard. I've gone to college, I've gotten my degrees, and I but money, I had never had the conversation like I had uh when I came here. So I figured if I didn't know it, I knew there were other [0:35:41, 0:35:46]: other African Americans who did not know this information. So I took a little [0:35:46, 0:35:48]: А чек інтуар хелт. [0:35:49, 0:36:09]: And I found out that we're spending over a trillion dollars every year. Last year we spent one point eight trillion, and this year we're on tap to do it again. Our dollars circulating in our community for six hours, some are claiming thirty minutes. And economists have been projecting since twenty seventeen that by the year twenty fifty-three our median wealth income is set to be zero. [0:36:09, 0:36:09]: Zero. [0:36:10, 0:36:13]: So we've got a lot of work to do to correct it. [0:36:13, 0:36:33]: Through this movement, I teach financial literacy classes. All of it is virtual. I teach wealth-building strategies. I'm connecting the number one consumer in the world, which is African Americans, with black-owned businesses that represent Black excellence and entrepreneurship. And I also have a marketing degree, so I use that to further support Black owned businesses as [0:36:33, 0:36:47]: as well. So um I do have some uh literature that I can pass out to you all if you you're interested. Um but yeah this is a a desperate work that needs to be done and we really and truly have to begin to save ourselves. Thank you so much for your time. [0:36:51, 0:37:03]: You any comments uh your your business owners come on any comments you want to make a actually the three of us are together. Oh okay. Sounds good. Sorry. [0:37:03, 0:37:09]: Yeah, they they both spoke, but it's up to you. The floor is up. I apologize. Um [0:37:11, 0:37:31]: Um I just wanna say um last I don't know how much um background information um my partners gave. Yes, I will say so Miss Antoinette is um our board president, but she is also a parent. Okay. And so we have parents that serve on our board um who are [0:37:30, 0:37:44]: you know founding members and it has made all the difference and when you understand their experience we understand the reason why um fortunately but also unfortunately institutions like ours must exist [0:37:45, 0:37:50]: And she has a a young black son and and Caleb is adorable and Caleb has autism. [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Um [0:37:52, 0:37:56]: Yeah, and uh part of part of the reason why um [0:37:56, 0:38:06]: I partnered with these two wonderful ladies is that um the frustration of having a private school in our area that served my son's needs. [0:38:06, 0:38:19]: Um, I don't know if there are any other autism parents in audience or grandparents or family members. Um, but it has it has at times been a struggle. And so the three of us came together to make sure that there [0:38:19, 0:38:37]: um is a private school that's offered in the city of Stockbridge for children with autism and that we make sure that we strive for excellence at our school. And so since you guys have heard um the gist of what the school is about from them, I'll be brief and I'll end my my uh notes there. Okay. Thank you. [0:38:44, 0:38:51]: Hello, my name is Sherry Pettis and I have been a realtor in this area for almost 27 years. [0:38:52, 0:38:53]: Oh thank you. [0:38:53, 0:39:13]: Uh thank you very much. Uh one of the things I am most proud about my career is that a few years ago I started a nonprofit and every closing that our team has, we uh donate ten percent. That's my tithe. I go to church often, but probably not enough. Um [0:39:13, 0:39:27]: And so we give ten percent and over the last several years, uh, I'm honored to say that we've awarded almost seventy thousand dollars in scholarships. Oh, hey, y'all got one. Oh [0:39:28, 0:39:30]: [2370.6, 2371.6]: Okay, stop. [0:39:32, 0:39:33]: Oh [0:39:34, 0:39:54]: Well, I just wanna say that and I am going to give a shout out. We are having an amazing golf tournament September thirtieth at Eagles Landing Country Club and a hundred percent of the donations are going to uh a foundation called Cares for Kids. So if you have any questions [0:39:54, 0:40:05]: about that tournament. If you have any questions about um I'm just I'm shaking a little bit because I had no idea y'all were gonna be here. So thank you very much. Have a great evening. [0:40:11, 0:40:12]: Problem is yours, sir. [0:40:16, 0:40:22]: What do y'all want me to say again? No, I'm just kidding. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. How y'all doing today? [0:40:22, 0:40:42]: I am the owner of a frozen smoke bar and restaurant in downtown Stockbridge. One of the great things about our restaurant is that we've been open for a year in in June. And since then, we've been able to host many events, birthday parties, anniversaries, uh political events, all the things that communities that a business does for the community. And in doing so, [0:40:42, 0:40:54]: What's so amazing is, is that uh the vision of our restaurant when we opened it was twofold. We want to be the Pascals and the varsity of Stockbridge. And people say, what do you mean by that? [0:40:54, 0:41:01]: I said, you remember Varsity, Coca-Cola wrote their business plan on a napkin at the varsity, and now they control the world. [0:41:02, 0:41:15]: And PASCO's is where uh many of the civil rights leaders and business leaders in the city of Atlanta always bro went and broke bread and made decisions that change the trajectory of community. And that's our purpose. [0:41:15, 0:41:26]: We want people to come not only enjoy great food, live music, uh and and just have a good conversation where you can have uh a right to agree to disagree in an atmosphere where you not feel threatened. [0:41:27, 0:41:34]: And you feel at home to discuss any topic that you want as long as it's decent and not offensive. [0:41:35, 0:41:37]: And that's what you can do with frozen smoke. [0:41:38, 0:41:56]: And so we welcome everybody to always come. We have political organizations that come have weekly meetings. We have fraternities and sororities like the Divine Nine come have monthly meetings. We have fundraisers. We had the uh the privilege of hosting uh a member of our church organization. [0:41:56, 0:42:00]: They were celebrating their seventieth wedding anniversary. [0:42:00, 0:42:05]: Seventieth wedded anniversary. How many people can say they've been married for seventy years? [0:42:06, 0:42:11]: And they've been married so long that they they packed the entire restaurant inside and out. [0:42:12, 0:42:32]: And so that was a fantastic feeling that everybody felt welcome, warmed. And since then, from that family, we've hosted two of the events from that very same family. We see people in here that we've celebrated their birthdays, their anniversaries, and organizational meetings right at our restaurant. So we just want for you to come out, celebrate. [0:42:32, 0:42:44]: And be a part of a community where you don't ha where you can come break bread and enjoy an atmosphere where you have the right to agree and disagree and not feel threatened. Frozen smoke restaurant and bar. Thank you. [0:42:45, 0:42:47]: [2567.9, 2578.0]: Okay, you guys take a picture here. Alright, so we're gonna double up the triple up folks. Come on down this way so we can get all again the camera. All right, get the picture here. Some of you ladies might want to go on this side. [0:42:58, 0:43:13]: Come on down, come on down, right? Come on. It's it's tight, get tight in here. Come on. How you doing? You doing alright? Alright. Uh what do you think? What do you get to happen? Okay. [0:43:14, 0:43:15]: S. [0:43:20, 0:43:21]: [2622.5, 2639.3]: You're more than welcome to stay for our meeting. It's open to the public, so you don't have to go unless you want it's up to you. Stay as long as you like. Thank you so much. Thank you. Um [0:44:02, 0:44:04]: Yeah. [0:44:09, 0:44:10]: I think. [0:44:37, 0:44:45]: Okay, we're gonna we have a poem, so we're gonna get started very soon. We have got a we got a point, so we're gonna start here very quickly [0:46:00, 0:46:02]: Yeah, it was the parent. [0:46:05, 0:46:08]: [3013.4, 3018.3]: Council, I need you to come to dies, please. I have six oh seven. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get started on the meeting. [0:50:40, 0:50:42]: Council, I need you to come to the diaspora so we can start a meeting. [0:50:46, 0:50:48]: Yeah, yeah. [0:50:50, 0:50:52]: Yeah. [0:50:53, 0:50:55]: [3092.1, 3095.1]: I really appreciate the fact that everybody having a good time. [0:51:36, 0:51:41]: A good time is be had by all. But ladies and gentlemen, we need to get our meeting started. Council needs you back to their dais. [0:51:43, 0:51:45]: Ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. [0:51:49, 0:51:53]: I'm glad everybody's having a good time enjoying themselves here at the city council chambers. [0:51:54, 0:51:55]: Yes it is. [0:51:56, 0:51:57]: Quite festive, as I've been told. [0:52:02, 0:52:06]: Yeah, you know, I guess I I guess I could use that, right? [0:52:07, 0:52:09]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's let's meet started. All right. [0:52:09, 0:52:12]: And it's unusual for me to use a gavel, but uh I [0:52:13, 0:52:15]: I guess it does work. Outstanding. All right. [0:52:17, 0:52:21]: What I'd like to do, ladies and gentlemen, is start our meeting. I have uh [0:52:21, 0:52:32]: 609. So I'd like to call our council meeting of uh August twelfth to order once again at 609 on the twelfth of August. Invocation, please. [0:52:33, 0:52:38]: Brianna Hart of Gold, her mother is going to give the invocation. Please stand if you if you can. [0:52:43, 0:52:44]: All right. [0:52:45, 0:52:50]: Let's pray. I pray for this council meeting tonight. [0:52:50, 0:52:53]: Give the council members wisdom and guidance as they deliberate. [0:52:53, 0:52:54]: On items before them. [0:52:55, 0:52:57]: May every decision be righteous in your sight. [0:52:58, 0:53:04]: For our benefit and for your glory. In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen. [0:53:04, 0:53:19]: Do a pledge of allegiance. A pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to the Republic for which it stands, automation, under God, individual, of liberty, justice, and our [0:53:19, 0:53:21]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:53:22, 0:53:32]: Good evening everyone. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Timberry. Present. Councilmember Alexander. Present. Councilmember [0:53:35, 0:53:40]: Present. Council Member Thomas. Mayor Ford, we have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Mayor Pro Temberry, please. [0:53:41, 0:53:54]: Yes, Mayor. Uh item number four, I wanna make uh the recommendation it would not need to be heard uh due to the amendment and adoption of the comprehensive plan. There's no need for uh that to move forward for today's agenda. [0:53:55, 0:53:59]: Sir second emotion. Sir Mr Mr. Alison second, all in favor, please indicate. [0:54:00, 0:54:03]: So unanimous decision. Okay, now I need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. [0:54:04, 0:54:09]: So so Mr Mr. Alexander and seconded by Miss Barber. All in favor, please indicate. [0:54:10, 0:54:20]: Thank you very much. Before you council, what you have is that you've got council meeting minutes of July 8th, 2024, special call meeting minutes SPLOSS six. [0:54:21, 0:54:37]: uh for july fifteenth of twenty twenty four and also the millet's rate public hearing min mini meeting minutes for the july fifteenth, july nineteenth, and july twenty second. And the council work session meeting minutes from july thirtieth. There are no particular changes to that. I need a motion to accept them all on the record, please. [0:54:37, 0:54:46]: So moved. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? Second. Mr. Berry, second. All in favor, please indicate. All right, you now have a decision on that. Uh Madam Clerk, any public comments at all? [0:54:48, 0:55:08]: Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, if you weren't here earlier for our ceremonial uh part of our meeting, which occurred actually at 515, and some of the individuals are still here, I want to make sure that you know that Brianna's heart of gold received a uh a proclamation from the city in reference to the Oregon donation uh that she gave upon her death to help save. [0:55:08, 0:55:28]: Save other people's lives. Three individuals, I believe they're all African American men, is what I've been told. Dr. Amanda Phillips, a well-renowned, retired doctor in the Stockbridge area, received a proclamation as well. We have several different uh businesses owned by African Americans that received uh proclamation for a black business month. And then I swore in to several oaths of all [0:55:28, 0:55:48]: Office for Antonio Gordon and Samantha Samuels and their new members of the Public Facilities Authority Board. And then of course our city of Stockbridge Police Department. Chief Tremor was here with a couple members of his of uh of the police uh uh citizens police advisory council and their runner-ups uh earlier this month, excuse me, last month, I'm sorry, last month, but it [0:55:48, 0:56:08]: Doctor Curtis McClure Award of Excellence. And uh they were competing against all the law enforcement agencies in the state of Georgia, which is several, several hundred. And they were actually uh in the top three. And that's uh pretty acceptable and a acknowledgement because the our police department's only been uh in existence for two years. So fantastic effort on [0:56:08, 0:56:16]: the uh the police chief and all the citizens that are involved uh with uh with that particular advisory uh committee. [0:56:17, 0:56:18]: Yes, sir. [0:56:19, 0:56:22]: Can't hear me? Okay. [0:56:25, 0:56:35]: We have our well what what what what we did we took we took comprehensive plan for the public care in I don't know four is coming off it came off. There's no need to discuss it because everything that's involved with that has already been taken care of. [0:56:36, 0:56:56]: In the comprehensive plan previously. So we we'll have a public hearing, but we'll go to number five when we get to that. I'm on number three right now. Thank you, sir. And and no need to address that way. Normally address from the poll from the mic here. Well we're we're taking care of this. No problem. All right. Old business. Uh deannexation case DX-2024-02 for mandatory. [0:56:56, 0:57:16]: Subdivision, phase two, consideration of the ordinance to de-annex uh from the corporate city limits of the city of Stockbridge, nine parcels within a manner subdivision representing phase two, which are listed below. The request was made by the owners of the nine parcels, which are located in land lots eight and nine of District 12. The parcels will become part of the [0:57:15, 0:57:35]: Part of the unincorporated Henry County. The City Council previously approved on April 30th, 2024, deannexation case DX 2024-01 and manually subdivision phase one, which uh had concerned the ten different uh parcels that were actually de-annexed. And so the nine and question this evening or when [0:57:35, 0:57:55]: 160 Jasper Drive parcel number 013A0102300. 165 Jasper Jasper Drive parcel 013A01024000. 195 Jasper Drive parcel number 013A0100. [0:57:55, 0:58:15]: 310 Cariff Drive parcel number 013A01039000 320 Cariff Drive parcel number 013A01038000 325 Cariff Drive parcel number 01300. [0:58:15, 0:58:35]: 3A0120 once again parcel number 013A01025000 and uh 510 Porthole Court parcel number 013A01049000 and 515 Port Low Port Low Drive Court that is parcel. [0:58:35, 0:58:55]: Number 013801047000 and 520 Port Low Dra Court that is 013A0104800. Miss Anderson, please. Good evening. On June 14, 2024, the city received nine applications for deannexation. [0:58:55, 0:59:00]: Um here's the aerial photo of the site. [0:59:02, 0:59:10]: Here are the nine properties highlighted in um in red. Uh as you can see they are contiguous to unincorporated Henry County. [0:59:13, 0:59:18]: Uh this is another uh vicinity map for phase two. Um [0:59:20, 0:59:28]: Based on staff's review and legal review, um the nine applications meet the qualification for a DNX. [0:59:30, 0:59:33]: Good thing, Council. Questions, concerns? [0:59:33, 0:59:53]: Yeah, certainly. The only thing I want to say to it is sometimes you I know a lot of times we get caught up into these myths of things and folks look at social media and you understand everything that you see on the internet is not exactly true. And sometimes people fall for the okie doke. See that was [0:59:53, 1:00:13]: A misnomber that was placed out in the community that if you leave the city or you DNX, you would be paying less taxes to the city of Stop, you'd be paying more taxes in the city. Of course, all of those things don't happen to fall to be true. Because in this case, if you live in unincorporated Henry County and most [1:00:13, 1:00:28]: In most cases, you're gonna be paying more taxes next year because the city held our millage rate at 3.77%. 3.77 mils. In most cases, the tax commissioner stood right there at the podium, right? [1:00:29, 1:00:31]: Mr. Gardner, come to the podium. [1:00:41, 1:01:01]: The tax commissioner stood right there at the podium, right next to you, and he outlined those criteria that said pretty much what I just explained, which was the millage rate in the city of Stockbridge, totally inclusive of the new city tax, will be less or slightly less for many homeowners uh in unincorporated versus being in the cities. [1:01:01, 1:01:02]: Is that correct? [1:01:02, 1:01:03]: Yes, sir. [1:01:03, 1:01:23]: And understanding that being what it is, and understand before somebody comes and knocks on your door and says, Oops, you're gonna be able to pay less taxes by leaving the city. You don't ever know because you know I certainly I I look at my county accounty counterparts and they made a decision based on the knowledge that they had that pretty much said uh to the [1:01:23, 1:01:43]: Public that they were investing in public safety and that they needed to build more fire stations and they needed to increase public safety. So they made a tough decision, certainly, uh, in order to embrace public safety. But certainly, understanding one thing, it is a fact that you will be paying, even inclusive of your city tax, you will be paying less in total. [1:01:43, 1:01:48]: total overall property taxes in the city of Stockbridge than you will be if you were not. [1:01:50, 1:02:10]: In the city of Stockbridge. So let's just make that clear and understanding that we do everything possible to keep the tax rate as low as possible in the city. And thank God we started our own police department. But not only are we paying 3.77 meals and less overall taxes, we got police. [1:02:10, 1:02:20]: Police Chief Frank Tramer sitting back there with uh about total personnel in the police department. Now I see is eighty that patrols the city keeping us safe. So thank you. [1:02:21, 1:02:22]: You know the comments from the council? [1:02:23, 1:02:37]: Mayor. Go right here, please. One. So I represent district one and this is in my district. I did have an opportunity to go and knock on some of the doors of some of the neighbors in the area. I went door to door. [1:02:37, 1:02:43]: Um I did not get a chance to go to everyone, but those that I did reach out to. [1:02:43, 1:02:45]: Um either [1:02:45, 1:02:50]: just signed the uh w a couple of them just signed and didn't know what was going on. [1:02:50, 1:02:52]: One was fairly new, they were [1:02:52, 1:03:10]: more so interested in w what is the cheaper rate of the taxes and if we could prove that we would be paying cheaper staying in the city. Um and then the uh there were a few who were just flat out saying it did not matter whether or not [1:03:11, 1:03:19]: The taxes were higher or less that their concerns were the way that they were annexed in. [1:03:19, 1:03:39]: and that they were they felt the need that there were promised or told that they would not have certain taxes that were implemented. That was the statement. Um I can't say neither here nor there because I've always, always, always been transparent about that. [1:03:39, 1:03:59]: And I've always stated that if you have a police department, which the constituents ask for and they ask for districts, that at some point you're gonna also have to have a city property tax. So that tax, in fact, Councilman Alexander is correct. And that was one of the reasons I wanted to personally walk to some of the neighbors. [1:03:59, 1:04:19]: Um doors to let them know, hey, listen, if you're talking about the taxes, your city property tax included with your county is less than being in the county. Um, there was a couple of uh leaders or a member of the board that I spoke to directly in regards to the type of area. [1:04:19, 1:04:26]: area which is wooded, two acres, no sidewalks. Um some want less [1:04:28, 1:04:48]: uh government, so to speak, um or or to s you know, to say in so many words. So having said that, if is this a public this is a public hearing. No, it's not a public hearing. But but once you're once you're done anybody else has comments, fine, then then we'll ask for a motion to accept this uh [1:04:48, 1:05:08]: Well, um action there were some concerns and some questions in regards to things that we're gonna bring up later. Um people still you know, trying to um ask questions and did not know necessarily w if a website would say one thing about trash pickup and then, you know, in brown bags and another one. [1:05:08, 1:05:28]: would say another. So those are things that we have to work out within the city. But um I will submit a letter to the remaining of the subdivision with those uh discussions and conclusions and also um we'll have a a talk town hall [1:05:28, 1:05:45]: within the district itself, but as of now from my understanding and I have not had anyone say to me, no, they want to stay. That is not what I've heard. And so out of respect by the law, um, I have stated this once before. [1:05:45, 1:05:46]: that if [1:05:46, 1:05:48]: The losses that we shall [1:05:49, 1:06:02]: Then we shall. Um, we can always vote it down and object, but I don't want anyone to be somewhere where they don't want to be. And I want the and I've said this one time before. [1:06:02, 1:06:22]: We are an example and we need to send a message to the county, our county commissioners that reject when they're voting, when people are trying to annex into our city, so that we don't have to go to the ARC, so that we don't have to go well, we don't have to go somewhere else and argue a point of a reasoning why they need [1:06:22, 1:06:30]: To come into the if they want to volunteer to come in here, the same goes for them. If they want to annex in, we should be cordial. [1:06:30, 1:06:35]: And we should do things within dignity with respect to the law. [1:06:36, 1:06:43]: And that's on both sides. And I'm a believer that we are the example and we're not gonna do tit for tat. [1:06:45, 1:06:46]: That's my stand. [1:06:47, 1:07:07]: If they don't have the comfortable conversation. Yeah, just basically, and less learn. With it's 2024 now. Everybody on the out there understands the importance of voting. When you decide you're surrounded by Stockbridge and you decide to leave the city, you don't get to vote for the mayor, you don't get to leave vote for me or anybody up here. So then your true [1:07:07, 1:07:20]: truly of representation without you have no representation in the area that you live. So certainly protecting your vote is extremely important. So at all costs, if you want to be able to vote [1:07:21, 1:07:28]: You stay in the city because if you don't, you have no word, you have no say in pretty much everything that d is done up here. [1:07:28, 1:07:42]: You have the right to vote if you do stay in the city and you are in the city and to choose your representation of the person that represents you or the majority of the area that surrounds you. But Miss Gann, I'll defer to you at this point. [1:07:43, 1:07:47]: We need a motion to accept this uh order. So moved. Was there a second? [1:07:49, 1:07:51]: Second. Okay, Mr. I was ask second. All in favor, please indicate. [1:07:53, 1:07:56]: Okay. Um Ms. Barber? [1:07:57, 1:07:58]: You in favor? [1:07:58, 1:08:08]: Thank you. Okay, so now the decision. Okay. Those nine uh individuals, those homes are out of the city of Stockbridge. I imagine that's effectively how soon does that effectively take place? Um [1:08:11, 1:08:22]: Around thirty to forty five days because we have to update the information into the uh D C A website so and it goes back to the county. So about thirty to forty five days. [1:08:22, 1:08:42]: So what this is August tw August twelfth. So we're talking about by the end of September? Yes, sir. All right. By the end of September, these uh nine individuals will be out of the City of Stockbridges and back into the county. All right, or in the county, which there are now anyway. Public hearing's next. And so on that note, here are the rules for a public hearing. Please mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. [1:08:42, 1:09:02]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out a form available at the table and hand it in to the clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant or their representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with any other relevant information. The council will be free to [1:09:02, 1:09:22]: Ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. East side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended by the discretion of the counsel. Please keep your comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. [1:09:22, 1:09:42]: We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the council, staff, or the audience. All comments will be made from the podium where you [1:09:42, 1:10:02]: You'll be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Fair to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his or her speech. [1:10:02, 1:10:15]: speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use entire ten minutes followed by the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. [1:10:15, 1:10:29]: The providing the presiding officer will call for a motion and a second to the motion and have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [1:10:30, 1:10:47]: On that note, uh item number five, public hearing, rezoning case of RZ two zero two four zero five, which is located in Council District five. Consideration under request for rezoning of property of four two five Country Club Drive to rezone the property from [1:10:47, 1:11:07]: OI office institutional to C two General Commercial to allow for a hotel boutique. The applicant is uh Stuart Hope. On behalf of Stockbridge or ProPro Pro Co excuse me LLC, the property is located in landlock 14 of District 7 with 6.92 acres within the Stockbridge City limits. Mr. [1:11:07, 1:11:09]: Dennison, please. [1:11:10, 1:11:18]: Uh once again the applicant is seeking to rezone from OI to C2 to allow for conversion of an existing assisted living facility to a hotel. [1:11:20, 1:11:24]: Here's um a map of the zoning in the area. [1:11:28, 1:11:32]: Here's the overlay map. The property is is uh identified by the star. [1:11:34, 1:11:54]: The zoning of the zoning history of the property of the uh of the property. The subject property was previously a hotel called the Inn at Eagles Landing. The construction of the hotel started in 1994 and was finished in 1995. The subject property was rezoned from Arya, multiple residential family to OI upon the request of Killiarn properties on November. [1:11:54, 1:12:02]: 8th, 2004, with the intended use as an assisted living facility. There's the original site plan and survey. [1:12:04, 1:12:24]: Um project information. Once again, the applicant plans to convert um an existing living facility to a boutique hotel. Currently the assisted living facility has 60 rooms with 68 parking spaces. In addition, the proposed boot hotel will include 10 employees with six being full-time and four being part-time. [1:12:24, 1:12:33]: The subject property is currently zone OI and OI does not allow hotel. That's the primary reason the applicant is seeking zoning to C2, which allows hotel. [1:12:36, 1:12:50]: Here's the surrounding hotel information. You have the Holiday Inn that located at 170 Country Club Drive, the Micro Tail Inn and Suites located at 195 Country Club, and located at 425 [1:12:51, 1:13:09]: Country Club, you have a a hotel that's coming up, and um you have the True Hilton which is under construction also at twenty seven twenty five Patrick Henry Highway. Uh after thorough analysis of this, um staff recommended approval. However, the pl the planning commission did recommend denial. Uh that's the [1:13:09, 1:13:11]: Okay. Council, any question for Mr. Anderson? [1:13:12, 1:13:30]: Go right in, please. Mr. Anderson, thank you for the presentation that you made to us. Um as you have stated, the property itself uh previously was a hotel and it was constructed uh as a hotel f in the original uh uh project for this for this um address. Yes, sir. [1:13:31, 1:13:37]: Okay, currently it serves uh as a senior community, is that correct? Yes, sir, assistant living facility. [1:13:37, 1:13:52]: Okay. And pretty much I think the provider had indicated that they own several properties uh in the area. Yes. And that uh this was one of the ones that they had uh purchased. Yes, one they have on the contract to purchase. I think it's contingent upon uh the zoning approval tonight. [1:13:52, 1:14:12]: Okay, and as you have indicated, there is already a hotel on Country Club Drive, which is the Mike Michel Inn. Yes, sir. Right. And then there is one that um is under construction, which is the True by Hilton, which is on Patrick Henry Parkway. Um Yes, that's correct. And you got the holiday inn at 175 Country Club Drive. [1:14:12, 1:14:32]: Holiday Inn which uh opened maybe about a year or so ago. So uh the area has seen uh a surgence in hotel occupancy uh that we need uh that we capacity that is needed in the area. And yesterday the mayor and I was at uh golf tournament over there, and certainly uh we want to be able to [1:14:32, 1:14:51]: look at that and look at uh all the criteria to determine uh what's necessary. And the recommendation from the staff was what again? Approval. Okay, and the approval was based on the criteria of the new ULDC classification that we passed, including the future land use map. [1:14:51, 1:14:58]: Yes, sir. And also the the the zoning history of the property also uh helped us reach that conclusion of approval. [1:14:59, 1:15:01]: Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. [1:15:02, 1:15:03]: Council, any other questions for Mr. Addison? [1:15:05, 1:15:08]: Uh don't give everybody's go okay, is is Miss Stewart Hope here? [1:15:08, 1:15:13]: Uh yeah the applicants. Is he will you come forward, sir? So? [1:15:16, 1:15:17]: Yes, no. [1:15:20, 1:15:32]: Evening, Mr. Mayor. Uh my name's John Jordan. Uh uh we actually represent the applicant with uh Hecht Walker Jordan uh PC, um 205 Corporate Center Drive, uh Sweep V, Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. [1:15:32, 1:15:52]: Okay. Well the reason why I asked you is I don't know if anything else that you wanted to mention to the council, see if they have any questions eventually I'm gonna open up to the public, but I didn't know if you had anything that you wanna that bring bring forward right now at all. Uh I did prepare a little uh presentation and then we do have the uh the the the come to the come to the mics or come to the mics on this side. We have the [1:15:52, 1:16:02]: Uh I did have a small presentation and the prospective buyers here as well to introduce themselves um for the boutique hotel. Okay. Um and I've got some slides I was just gonna [1:16:04, 1:16:06]: See if this uh will work. [1:16:23, 1:16:25]: All right, worked. Um [1:16:28, 1:16:48]: Again, good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. Um, we represent uh the applicant for this item as well as the owner for the property, which is uh Stockbridge Propco LLC. Um our client is currently under contract to sell the property to a hotel operator um that would like to turn this uh [1:16:48, 1:17:08]: uh well revert it back to a hotel before a nationally brand name upscale boutique hotel at this site. Um it will be very different from the existing hotels and mic uh I think the microtel and and whatnot. Um and it'll essentially regain its purpose that uh from the original hotel that was there in conjunction with [1:17:07, 1:17:11]: the the country club um years and years ago. Um [1:17:12, 1:17:32]: Uh Ms. Gervin, uh Miss Uh Venus Gervin is here tonight as well on behalf of uh her company, Emerald Hospitality Group, and they're uh the prospective buyer, and also they would be the hotel operator uh for this hotel. Um the location again is just uh the [1:17:32, 1:17:33]: Excuse me. [1:17:37, 1:17:42]: Sorry, I'm trying to figure out how to uh does he need some can you give him some help on this presentation? Make sure we go forward here. [1:17:45, 1:18:05]: There we go. Okay. Um, this is the Golden Crest facility, which is the subject property. The hotel is directly adjacent to the Eagles Landing Country Club. You can see uh Golden Crest right here in the front forefront, and in the back, you can see the uh Eagles Landing Country Club um uh pro shop and and the club. [1:18:05, 1:18:21]: The property is also, as you can see, it's right here, right adjacent or uh across the street from the large public shopping center and a and a large amount of uh other businesses right there in the area. Um [1:18:22, 1:18:42]: Unfortunately, as far as Golden Crest goes, it is gonna have to close down. Um it is falling on hard times, it is financially unsupportable at the time, and the owner has had to make the difficult decision to go ahead and proceed with closing it down, regardless of what happens tonight. It it just can't stay open. Um we do feel [1:18:42, 1:19:02]: For the residents that are there, but nothing can stay forever, especially if it's not supported financially. Um, and so it will have to close down. Um, we do have an opportunity, though, with this prospective buyer to have it open up as a very nice upscale boutique hotel that can complement uh the Eagles Landing Country Club. Um, it can provide additional. [1:19:02, 1:19:22]: Lodging for passers-by and tourists who can spend their money to support businesses locally. And it can serve as a great event center for golf tournaments, people from out of town that want to play golf, weddings. It's right next door, so wedding families for weddings can stay there. [1:19:22, 1:19:42]: Other events. It was originally envisioned as a hotel back in 94-95, and it served as a hotel for almost a decade. It was successful. And then it was rezoned when it converted to the current Golden Crest. What's unique about this, and it's been mentioned before, is that it was originally [1:19:42, 1:20:02]: The inn at Eagle's Landing. It was a hotel. The footprint is the exact same as the hotel was, and the footprint for this hotel will be reconverting it back to its original purpose, and the footprint will be virtually the same as well. The only thing that will be changing is a facelift to the exterior, and then the [1:20:01, 1:20:10]: The rooms and the bathrooms will get a facelift and be remodeled for whatever brand is chosen to their standards. [1:20:11, 1:20:31]: This is the the zoning map. You can see the the light blue is O and I. It's it's there's very little O and I in the areas, just sparsely uh around. Um but the pink is C2. That's what we're requesting. Um so the the majority of the properties that are in the vicinity of of this property are already C2. [1:20:31, 1:20:46]: C2 and commercial. So this would be consistent with the future land use map as as recognized by staff and council by taking off the Flume Amendment. It'd also be consistent with the other businesses in the area. [1:20:46, 1:21:06]: Uh this is also the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. You'll notice that this was captured into that overlay along with all the other commercial businesses. Um and so we find it you know fitting that with the commercial businesses that are in this overlay being C2 and other commercial, that we would our zoning would be consistent with that as well. [1:21:06, 1:21:09]: Mm-hmm. [1:21:10, 1:21:18]: Um, this is the uh old Eagles Landing in um site plan. You can see the footprint, or did see the footprint on there. [1:21:20, 1:21:20]: Um [1:21:21, 1:21:41]: is almost ex exactly identical to the current site plan for Goldencrest. And it'll go back to that as well. This is uh as you can see the entrance from Country Club Drive. It is uh uh a gated um uh community has the option to have security through a uh uh controlled access. This is the front. [1:21:41, 1:21:50]: With a grand staircase. Um it's got a lounge and large guest rooms. Um already existing. [1:21:52, 1:21:53]: Keeps going in and out. [1:22:10, 1:22:11]: Be gentle with it. [1:22:12, 1:22:13]: Thank you, Mr Gordon. [1:22:13, 1:22:33]: Thank you. Um and so it already has uh the the more than the bones to go ahead and convert back to a a very nice hotel. This is what we're looking at. This would be the repurposed uh hotel. Upscale, very different from what's already out there, and it's right next to Eagles Landing Country Club um to support their uh their building. [1:22:33, 1:22:42]: business there as well. Um these are renderings. Um you can tell the the footprint is almost virtually the same as as it currently is. [1:22:47, 1:23:02]: Um there will be a a restaurant and bar there. There's already um uh food service at the assisted living, so that won't have to be added. It can just be repurposed for this. Um and as far as um uh benefits for the county, um [1:23:03, 1:23:23]: This will bring new employment uh opportunities from uh hotel management to um maintenance staff, cleaning staff, and welcoming staff. So you will have uh additional employment opportunities, um, again, event lodging to complement Eagles Landing Country Club, tourist revenue, um, and additional hotel and [1:23:23, 1:23:43]: property taxes uh which can benefit the area as well. Sales tax, hotel taxes are are very important for the the livelihood. We just heard about um uh the the city needing taxes um to support its um uh police fire department that type of thing this is uh this would uh foster that that need [1:23:43, 1:24:03]: The subject property is not sustainable, as I mentioned. It will close down no matter what goes on tonight. However, this is a great opportunity to put a successful business in its place from what it used to be back to it, and it will prevent it from staying vacant once it's closed. [1:24:03, 1:24:23]: That that's the the big thing. We we can have a successful, thriving, upscale business when it closes, or it can be vacant. And nobody wants that to happen, especially for such a nice property like this. The site was originally developed and built out for a hotel, and it's still a great site for a hotel. Staff has recommended uh approval of of this uh request. And [1:24:23, 1:24:33]: We would greatly appreciate you following their recommendation and approving it as well. And uh with that I'd like to call up uh Venus to introduce herself and her company. [1:24:37, 1:24:40]: How do you have the answer? Okay, there. [1:24:41, 1:25:01]: Um, just real quick, I'd like to address the council. My name is Venus Skirvin, and I'm the purchaser and the uh developer of the property. And so my intention is to convert this into an upper upscale boutique hotel, uh, which will be um a luxury product, a little bit um higher guest experience for guests. And um my I just wanted to introduce myself. [1:25:01, 1:25:21]: And my partner, I'm Venus Gervin, and my partner is Mrs. Tracy Prigmore. I'm a local area architect. I've been in the business for about 20 years, revitalizing old properties. I take old hotels and turn them, you know, just bring them back to life and turn them back into the gyms that they originally were. [1:25:21, 1:25:29]: And so I'd like to do the same thing for Golden Crest. I'd like to take that, turn it into a nice upper-up scale boutique hotel property. [1:25:30, 1:25:31]: Um just a little bit about [1:25:32, 1:25:41]: Uh here are some of the other um properties in our portfolio that we own and manage. Um they are in the uh DC, Maryland, Virginia area here. [1:25:42, 1:26:02]: Uh as well as some properties in uh California. Now the Grand Reserve Inn will be um this is kind of a little bit closer to what we have in mind for the repositioning of Golden Crest. Uh this is a small uh luxury boutique inn, and we'll use uh a lot of the touches from this property into what we present. [1:26:02, 1:26:03]: Propose for a golden crest. [1:26:06, 1:26:26]: And then I'll s I'll skip over all of this stuff. Um just uh real quick, what I've um learned about this area is that there are a lot of hotels in the area, but you are missing the upper upscale market. There are no upper upscale hotels anywhere in this vicinity. And I feel like this can be a perfect opportunity for Stockbridge. [1:26:26, 1:26:28]: to bring that to the market. [1:26:29, 1:26:38]: There I from my research, there's a five to one ratio of unmet hotel demand to available supply here. And I feel like I can really fill that void with a nice property here. [1:26:43, 1:27:03]: Uh some of the I want to touch on some of the concerns that I've heard from the residents as I've um spoken with people here. Uh I just want to touch on some of the safety concerns. I just want to highlight uh there's already a very um extensive natural landscape buffer uh that already exists around the property. Uh there are uh noticeable grade changes. [1:27:03, 1:27:23]: Is that my time? No, go ahead. Okay. Um there's uh noticeable grade changes and elevation drops that surround the property already. Uh there's already a gate at the beginning of Country Club Drive. And from um my discussions with people, it seems like they're concerned about uh nefarious activity taking place in the park. [1:27:23, 1:27:43]: parking lot, so I feel like I can correct that by having that gate closed in the evenings as well as with an increased security monitoring system. You know, it'll be an actively managed property. So I feel like I can cut down on all of their concerns for that. As well as helping to remove blind spots that are currently in the area. [1:27:43, 1:27:47]: uh as well as some additional lighting and landscaping uh that will help as well. [1:27:48, 1:28:08]: Um and so, you know, community benefits, um, you know, we want to be active community partners um to this area. We want to help uh this area fill a missing void in the hotel marketplace. Uh we plan to um maintain a professionally managed property instead of it being a vacant building. Uh obviously um, you know, it bring in um you know at least [1:28:08, 1:28:22]: the half a million dollars and you know increased tax base um offer public amenities uh and job creation to the area so thank you for allowing me to introduce myself and I look forward to uh any questions that you have. Appreciate you okay Mr. Thomas go ahead please thank you mayor [1:28:23, 1:28:26]: And and good evening to to you two. [1:28:26, 1:28:33]: Um you may wanna stay you may wanna come back, please. Yes. And Ryan, could you join them just in case? [1:28:36, 1:28:36]: Good evening. [1:28:38, 1:28:58]: And thank you for your presentation. It is unfortunate that the assistant living facility will have to close down. My question is what what is the the time frame that the uh occupants, the tenants will have to uh evacuate the property? [1:28:58, 1:29:18]: Um well by law it's gotta be and and with the residents um agreements with the facility, it's gotta be at least thirty days uh notice. That notice is being prepared um currently and we should have it going out either at the end of the week or next week um that it will be shutting down. They may have uh more than thirty days, and maybe thirty to sixty, but at the very minimum it's gotta be thirty. [1:29:18, 1:29:38]: 30 days notice by law. They have my client has called around. There are several assisted living facilities that they were able to confirm do have availability to take on new residents. So there is that opportunity. And these are the Oaks at Stockbridge, which is literally a stone's throw from the current facility, the Oaks at Eagles. [1:29:38, 1:29:49]: Landing, which is about half a mile away, and Benton Village of Stockbridge, which is about a mile away. So there will be a place for the residents to transition that'll still be close to what they call home. [1:29:50, 1:29:53]: So y you indicated thirty days from the receipt. [1:29:54, 1:30:14]: of the notification. At least thirty days. But has not been um issued out at this point. That's right. So that clock hasn't hasn't started ticking. And it may be uh if they can if they can make it to longer than that in the transition, it may not just be thirty days, but uh the it's just not financially uh feasible to keep it open. So um all I can say [1:30:13, 1:30:33]: Say, is it uh there's at least a 30-day period. Um, and the management will get with the residents and work actively with them and their families to make this transition as as least disruptive as as possible. Um, and they'll be able to give them a more uh precise time period once the um the the buyer and the and the owner get together and come over. [1:30:33, 1:30:37]: Is there anyone here for management here this evening? [1:30:39, 1:30:59]: Yeah, you want to Okay. Well, I don't I don't have any questions. I just wanted to know if Dave was here just in case some questions may come up. Thank you, Mayor. I yield back. Mr. Alexander, go ahead please. Yeah, thank you for the presentation. And Miss Gervin had it requested a a previous she just wanted to uh talk. So certainly and um I think as was [1:30:59, 1:31:01]: indicated. So why don't you come up if you would? [1:31:01, 1:31:05]: This are Councilman Thomas, thank you for asking that question. [1:31:10, 1:31:30]: I think as was indicated uh that um this the chain the chain the operation there are numerous other sister or brother operations that you have uh around the area. Is that correct? We have two other operating facilities in the state of Georgia, one is in Smyrna and the other one isn't [1:31:29, 1:31:49]: is in Canton, Georgia. Okay. So certainly I think what uh what had been talked about was that um that there would be a transition period and that there would be that the rate for the residence there would be guaranteed or or maintained for at least uh a year's period of time. Is that correct? [1:31:50, 1:32:10]: I don't know anything about the the any rate guarantees. Um but what we do wanna do is be able to find that alternate living uh arrangements for the the current residents and uh try to make it as seamless as possible. I I I don't know of any rate guarantees or anything like that, but um as I mentioned it there's no way to keep this open. So [1:32:10, 1:32:20]: the residents are going to have to find alternate lodging um uh as much as we hate that um but uh I don't know anything about [1:32:21, 1:32:41]: Okay, what was indicated was that there were gonna be there were close facilities as you've indicated, which is the Oak City Eagles Landing and then the the other facility as well. And then there were l other facilities that the residents could be transferred to. They they confirmed that they have availability. They're not connected or affiliated with the Golden Crest um community. Um [1:32:41, 1:32:50]: Um so but there are those opportunities to for the for the residents to be able to move to a nearby uh facility. Um [1:32:52, 1:33:12]: Okay. Now certainly um as things go, and I think what you had indicated legally, as we understand, legally is the thirty days that's what's required in the law. That's not necessarily what would actually transpire, it's just legal notice of thirty days is required. Is that correct? [1:33:12, 1:33:16]: Right. That's not necessarily the plan, is that correct, sir? [1:33:17, 1:33:37]: No, we can certainly work with residents if they if we need to extend out to you know sixty days, but we are going to uh notice and discharge and close the community to state uh regulatory standards. Absolutely and Ryan, come up to the microphone as well. [1:33:37, 1:33:55]: Now generally as we go through the zoning, planning and zoning process, they're gonna have to submit plans. They're gonna have to those plans are gonna have to go through the review process. How long is that normally taking? Uh once they submit their building, we usually take we try to uh review the plans within ten working days. [1:33:55, 1:34:15]: Right, you review the plans and then certainly you would there would be some back and forth transition between whether or not this met the standard and what exactly we wanted the property to look like, feel like and be like to make sure that it actually uh goes.'Cause certainly I think what we generally have is some play that occurs over time. [1:34:15, 1:34:35]: It's never like it wouldn't I don't think I've seen too many that occurred in ten day. They occur the the initial comments or go back within thir within set within ten days, but certainly typically what what is typically that process like? I mean we're pretty efficient over there, so I mean they probably wouldn't submit until they [1:34:35, 1:34:55]: They've closed out all their due their due diligence with the residents and all that. So uh when they submit, they're they'll probably be ready to uh move with the renovations. So they they wouldn't submit right away, I don't think. So but once they submit, we try to get the applications back to the applicant within 10 days. But um also [1:34:55, 1:35:11]: Also we'll reali we will realize that that there's still a thirty day time, a minimum of thirty days that they notice that they have to give the residents. And I'm sure to go through closing and all that will take a while too. So it probably will be two months before they get anything f to us, a minimum of two months. [1:35:11, 1:35:31]: Right, that is the point that I wanted to make is that the legally the legal notice is thirty days, that's not necessarily what might transpire. And there was capacity uh in the general area and there certainly was some discussion about uh s uh some uh possibly the rate being maintained for that. Um [1:35:31, 1:35:51]: Uh for a period of time to make sure that the residents could transition to a facility uh in the area. But certainly we want to make sure that we're compassionate in this and understanding that it's a transition for the residents. But as you have stated, and I would like to hear directly from the gentleman who's running. [1:35:51, 1:36:00]: in it is that pretty much uh what has been stated is that the financial conditions of the uh c center as it is is unsustainable. [1:36:01, 1:36:14]: Yes, the build the current operations of the building are unsustainable and the building will have to close. It can no longer financially support itself. Right. I do understand that there are sixty rooms there, is that correct? Or someone? [1:36:14, 1:36:20]: Uh yes, we have sixty resident rooms at the moment. But Venus, how many rooms are you playing under? [1:36:21, 1:36:36]: Okay. About fifty five. But and then I was told uh the part of that financial um situation was that there was actually a low count of residents at the at the at the facility, is that correct? That is correct. [1:36:36, 1:36:41]: Okay, what was that number currently? Uh today we have nineteen residents. [1:36:42, 1:36:54]: Okay, so you have nineteen residents and and a capacity of sixty and with you're trying to take care of and maintain this facility that has capacity for sixty. Correct. Okay. All right, thank you. [1:36:54, 1:36:55]: Ms. Gang, go ahead, please. [1:36:57, 1:37:17]: I can't think of the term right now, I have brain freeze, but a tenant has a lease, right? They're leased in the the Southern Crescent right now, the there are different leases are there at different time frames. Um each person that's there right now has a lease. And you have to [1:37:16, 1:37:31]: To honor that lease, correct? That's right. All right. So 30 days would be if someone didn't pay their rent. It's not when you have a lease. So it's based off of [1:37:32, 1:37:52]: It's not tennis and sufferance. It's not tennis and col I can't think of the name right now because I'm oh I got a complete freeze. A tennancy at will. Tennessee. It's a month-to-month lease. Right. Well, not necessarily. It's not a month to month. It's when you are in the property by right because you leased the property for a time being. So let's say they have a five [1:37:52, 1:37:54]: five year lease or they have a two year lease. [1:37:55, 1:38:05]: Or they, you know, and each person moved in at different points and periods of time. You have to go by the expiration date of their lease or you're buying them out of their lease, correct? [1:38:05, 1:38:25]: Well, for these leases, and and I've got um the first page up there, it does say that the admission agreement is considered a month-to-month lease and may be canceled at any time by either party with a thirty as a type of thirty-day notice unless a medical circumstance arises which requires the immediate departure of the resident. So this it's a it's a month to month. [1:38:25, 1:38:29]: It's a standard month to month lease. All of them have been signed that way? [1:38:29, 1:38:32]: Yes, that's yes. That's how the industry operates. [1:38:32, 1:38:49]: Okay. So nobody has a long term lease. Everything is every month to month. Everything we do is month to month. Yes, that's correct. All right. So that means that the tenant expected and is aware that their lease is month to month when they first um [1:38:50, 1:38:57]: came in. What whether they signed a lease or not, they're aware that they signed a month to month lease. Um usually [1:38:57, 1:39:17]: They are locked in for a year or two or three, sometimes five, depending on the type of home it is. And then month to month is not uncommon for senior facilities as well. So I was just curious about that because if it wasn't month to month, then we would have to go based off the expiration date of each. [1:39:17, 1:39:18]: Kenneth, Lisa. [1:39:18, 1:39:24]: And that's right, and and we definitely would be honoring what what their lease agreement was. [1:39:24, 1:39:30]: Thank you. Any other questions from the council? Yes. Uh go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Um [1:39:30, 1:39:50]: I I really don't have a problem with the future, and I do understand, and I looked over uh some of the rendering last night, it is beautiful. So I really don't have a problem with that, and I'm I'm glad someone is here for management. I I guess my biggest concern, and you pretty much answered some of the questions. I just want to make sure that [1:39:50, 1:39:53]: That the tenants that are there [1:39:53, 1:40:00]: they have full opportunity to relocate. And so I guess my follow up question is if if there's a family [1:40:01, 1:40:05]: that's someone having a problem in relocating. [1:40:05, 1:40:17]: How sensitive would management be um with the timeline? Hopefully you would not just evict someone because that they may be having some issues and relocating. [1:40:18, 1:40:27]: We are required by state law to discharge the resident to a safe environment. So we can't we have to discharge them somewhere safe for them to go. [1:40:28, 1:40:30]: Well that's that's good to know. Thank you, Mayor. [1:40:31, 1:40:41]: Any other comments from Ms. Barber? Yes, that was actually one of the questions, concerns that I had. So thank you for sta sharing that. I know most of the residents there. Um [1:40:41, 1:40:42]: Down fixed incomes. [1:40:43, 1:40:45]: Um, I think about if it was me. [1:40:45, 1:40:48]: Um living there. And [1:40:49, 1:40:55]: I know that there are other senior living facilities really close by. I just wonder what their [1:40:56, 1:40:58]: um admission rates are. [1:40:59, 1:41:01]: Um as far as cost, the living. [1:41:01, 1:41:04]: Um compared to what they were currently paying. [1:41:05, 1:41:25]: Um I'm certain that you all may be working something out with the other facilities to make sure that we take care of those existing residents. I d myself I don't know about uh the cost side of it. Um I haven't been in that level of discussions with management, but I know that that the transition is going [1:41:25, 1:41:35]: to be with compassion. Um I don't know I I wish I had the other rates and had that answer for you, but I I just don't management probably does. I just don't have it here for you tonight. [1:41:35, 1:41:37]: I get it. I get it. Um [1:41:38, 1:41:39]: The current owner. [1:41:40, 1:41:40]: has right. [1:41:41, 1:41:42]: They have a right to sell. [1:41:43, 1:41:44]: For whatever reason. [1:41:44, 1:41:46]: Um whether it be financial [1:41:46, 1:41:48]: Or they just desire to do something else. [1:41:49, 1:41:50]: I get in. [1:41:50, 1:41:51]: It's just [1:41:53, 1:42:01]: care about folks, especially the elderly. So just want to make sure we do right by them. Um one of the questions I have is regards to [1:42:02, 1:42:05]: The access you mentioned about the gate. [1:42:05, 1:42:06]: The entrance way. [1:42:07, 1:42:08]: I um [1:42:08, 1:42:11]: I watched the meeting with the Planning Commission. [1:42:11, 1:42:14]: And there was a question re um [1:42:14, 1:42:22]: One of the residents who live in the adjacent neighborhood mentioned about access into the villages. Um [1:42:22, 1:42:42]: Other than the buffers, the trees, is there anything else um that you all will do to kind of restrict access into the neighboring subdivision? Um not not at this time. Um I would like to just kind of get in there and operate and see what kind of issues arise and address those as [1:42:42, 1:42:43]: They come up. [1:42:43, 1:42:45]: Gotcha. Thank you. [1:42:46, 1:42:48]: Any other questions from the council? [1:42:49, 1:42:49]: Okay. [1:42:50, 1:43:03]: If not, thank you for that time so far. And what we're gonna do, ladies and gentlemen, no, no, you can go s have a sit down, please. Have a sit down. Go ahead. And what we're gonna do, we're gonna open up for a public hearing. And so I'm gonna offer this to the r uh individuals that are here. [1:43:03, 1:43:04]: So [1:43:04, 1:43:23]: We'll start on well this is for uh that are in favor. In favor for this to occur. In favor for this to occur, I'm gonna start on this in my far left, my left side. If you're in favor for this to occur, with the transition to occur, please line up on the left hand side right there. If you're in favor for this to occur, if you want to make f uh positive comments to this. [1:43:23, 1:43:24]: Anybody else? All right. [1:43:25, 1:43:45]: In the middle, anybody in the middle that want to make any uh comments indicating that uh this is something that you would like to see, this is a positive thing, please line up on the left side. Anybody on my far right, any comments that you want to make for this to occur, for this to occur on my far right, please line up way on the left hand side. All right, so [1:43:45, 1:43:55]: I'm gonna call you up and give you a name and address. We'll get uh we've got a total of ten minutes overall, but we'll work that out. And come on up and uh make your comments, sir, and uh we'll ru put it uh in the record. [1:43:57, 1:44:09]: Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh Mr. Mayor and Council members, my name is Charles Marshall. My wife and I live at 140 Somerset Hills, McDonough, Georgia, which is within the city limits of Stockbridge. [1:44:09, 1:44:21]: Uh it's also within the Eagles Landing Country Club subdivision. I think we've talked about that this evening. As you know, the Eagles Landing Country Club subdivision is right next door to the property being discussed this evening. [1:44:21, 1:44:25]: And we have a pretty big stake in the development plans in that area. [1:44:26, 1:44:32]: The property being discussed this evening used to be a very upscale, as been mentioned before, very upscale [1:44:32, 1:44:38]: Uh, full service hotel that provided overnight lodging for many of the visitors and fans. [1:44:38, 1:44:40]: of the professional golf tournaments. [1:44:41, 1:44:44]: And national events that the Eagles Landing Country Club sponsored years ago. [1:44:45, 1:44:52]: Our country club now high after major renovations has now started sponsoring these national events again. [1:44:52, 1:44:55]: The proposed hotel would be a great addition to our community. [1:44:56, 1:45:00]: And would complement the ongoing development efforts of the city of Stockbridge. [1:45:02, 1:45:08]: As you know, the Henry County Coalition Committee has always been a strong advocate for improving our community. [1:45:08, 1:45:17]: Within the city. As president of our 78-member organization, I have contacted many of our members who mostly live in the Eagles Landing area. [1:45:17, 1:45:23]: And there is great excitement around the idea of bringing this hotel development back to this property. [1:45:24, 1:45:29]: We feel that the renovation and reopening of this hotel project would add to the strong retail development. [1:45:29, 1:45:40]: Supporting our community and we strongly support the rezoning of this property that allows this hotel project to move forward. Thank you. Thank you. Next individual, please, name and address. [1:45:45, 1:45:51]: Good evening. My name is Susan Cloudus and I reside at one two three Prestwick Way South. [1:45:51, 1:45:58]: Stockbridge, Georgia, in the villages of Eagles Landing, which is directly adjacent to the proposed rezoning. [1:45:59, 1:46:02]: My husband and I have lived in the community for nineteen years. [1:46:03, 1:46:12]: We've been members of the country club for 29. So we were there when it was the Eagles landing in. Tonight I wear a couple of different hats. [1:46:12, 1:46:18]: I am chair of the board for the board of governors for Eagles Landing Country Club. [1:46:18, 1:46:24]: I spoke today to the owner of Eagles Landing Country Club and they stand in full support. [1:46:24, 1:46:26]: of the rezoning of this property. [1:46:27, 1:46:29]: to a boutique hotel. [1:46:30, 1:46:50]: I also wear the hat of president of the board at the Villages Property Owners Association. While I can't speak for all of the residents there, I can speak to the board members who I've individually polled, and they are in full support of the rezoning. [1:46:50, 1:46:58]: As I have been around Stockbridge for a long time, I have watched the growth happen in the last four to five years. [1:46:59, 1:47:19]: The question I would ask is: why do people pay to go to a Ritz-Carlton when there is a Hilton right down the street? The reason is people want a more upscale experience. I truly believe from what I have read and what I have observed from the applicants. [1:47:19, 1:47:25]: Who wants to um open up the inn at Eagle's Landing, rezone it to that boutique hotel? [1:47:25, 1:47:27]: That this will be a step [1:47:27, 1:47:47]: And just elevating the city of Stockbridge to where all the residents want it to be. We want to be that city that we look at on the north side and other areas to be in competition with them in terms of what we have to offer. I sincerely appreciate the opportunity. [1:47:47, 1:47:57]: to speak to you tonight and it is our hope that we can move forward with this next step in the wonderful future for the city of Stockbridge. [1:47:57, 1:47:57]: Thank you. [1:47:58, 1:48:00]: Next individual, please. Name and address. [1:48:05, 1:48:15]: Good evening. My name is Brenda Culpepper, 837 Cog Hill, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. Thank you all for this opportunity to be heard. [1:48:15, 1:48:35]: I am president of the Eagles Landing Property Owners Association, which has eight hundred and sixty-seven doors, with an additional thirty-three that could potentially be added to our coffers. I'm also president of the Eagles Landing Community Association. We have 2,000 per uh residential. [1:48:35, 1:48:55]: Homes and 425 commercial resident commercial businesses in the area up and down Eagles Landing Parkway hither and yon. I also chair, because of the Eagles Landing Community Association, all of the subdivisions that are in proximity to the new hotel that's on its way down there. [1:48:55, 1:49:15]: The street. Um, I want to just say progress is important and change is inevitable. And it is time for us to just make a change. We're gonna have to go on to the next now. If you were at the country club yesterday, it was the first time in the ten and a half years that I've been here that there was no [1:49:15, 1:49:16]: Yeah. [1:49:17, 1:49:37]: In the country club. And all of these, we had these golfers from around the country that couldn't stay in a luxury hotel because we didn't have one. So what we need to do is be change makers and change the situation for our good. I think it would be a wonderful addition to the city of Stockholm. [1:49:36, 1:49:46]: Stockbridge and we should do all that we can to make this place the South Atlanta place, the best place to live. Thank you for your time. [1:49:46, 1:49:47]: Thank you. [1:49:48, 1:49:50]: Next gentleman, your name and address, please. [1:49:52, 1:50:12]: Good evening. My name is Keith Thompson. I live on the golf course at Eagles Landing for twenty five years. I run the US uh uh hospitality group for Avis and Young and we sell hotels. I have a deep understanding of of hotels, of upscale hotels, mid scale economy hotels, and living at Eagles Landing, we uh were there [1:50:12, 1:50:19]: when it was the end at Eagles Landing. So we think it'd be a great addition to the community and we have all of our full support behind it. [1:50:20, 1:50:23]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Next gentleman, your name and address, please. [1:50:27, 1:50:47]: Good evening, my name's Rex Cagle. I live at 109 Hickory Trail in Winsong, right across the street from the property. I've been there for 25 years and also remember when the inn at Eagles Landing was built, held many, many, many meetings there uh for church and social events, and we need a meeting space of that. [1:50:47, 1:50:51]: caliber that we really don't have. So I'm in full support of this. [1:50:51, 1:51:01]: Thanks, I appreciate it. On that note, anybody that's against this being a t changed into the hotel, anybody against and my far left side who wants to speak. Anybody against? Line up on the left side, please. [1:51:02, 1:51:04]: Okay from the left side. Anybody else in the middle? [1:51:04, 1:51:24]: that would want the middle right in front of me that wants to speak against this particular uh e uh event happening to hotel to be converted over. Okay. Anybody on the on far my far right that wants to speak. Come on line up on this side please. On the other side, please. Okay. All right. Anybody else? Okay, so I have three individuals. All right. Uh I guess the clock is restarted. [1:51:24, 1:51:30]: Ms. Uh Holliday. Ma'am, could you come to the uh to the mic and give your name and address please? [1:51:32, 1:51:52]: Good evening, everybody. My name is Melinda Childs. I am um from Stockbridge. I live at 113 Ventura Trail. I'm also employed at this present time at Golden Crest. Um I I'm I'm trying not to get emotional. So if you could just um work. [1:51:52, 1:52:00]: With me. All right. Um, I hear about the lavish things that everyone wants to bring to Stockbridge. [1:52:01, 1:52:08]: But I'm not hearing about the compassion when it comes to the residents that reside at Golden Crest. [1:52:10, 1:52:19]: What a time we are in, we are living in right now, with this inflation. Not everybody has the luxury. [1:52:19, 1:52:26]: of up and moving in 30 days, nor do they have the luxury of moving in 60 days. [1:52:27, 1:52:47]: We didn't talk about what's provided at Golden Crest. When you say that you don't have the money, we provide love. We provide a family. This is their home. Could you imagine being forced out of your home? Because this is a home for some people. Because people want luxury. [1:52:47, 1:52:50]: [6771.4, 6778.6]: What hurt me the most is that when I'd have taken these residents over the time since the sign went up. [1:52:59, 1:53:19]: We did not have 19 when a sign went up. We had over 30. We had about 36. But the fear of being homeless drove some out. And those that cannot leave, as they said, their openings, there are people still waiting. But there are people that are waiting. [1:53:19, 1:53:31]: waiting for an answer today. And they're not waiting for us to come back and say that you have to go. They're waiting for us to come back to say that you can stay in your home. [1:53:33, 1:53:37]: That is all that I have to say today. [1:53:38, 1:53:45]: is that I'm more concerned about them still having a home than someone having luxury. [1:53:46, 1:53:47]: Thank you. [1:53:48, 1:53:50]: Next individual, name and address please. [1:53:52, 1:54:12]: Hi, I'm Sophia Oliver. I'm at 113 Valerie Court. I'm here in Stockbridge as well. Um I've been nursing 32 years. I've been doing this a long time. I was at Golden Crest seven years. I left for a year and came back. Um the ho the the facility was a hotel before I get it. I understand. Um I know, right? [1:54:12, 1:54:19]: Right now, um this young lady wanna turn it into another hotel. Didn't work the first time, prayerfully, you know, I don't know. [1:54:19, 1:54:23]: I don't I d my thing is the residents they say that facilities are close by. [1:54:24, 1:54:44]: Everybody is full to capacity. We already been checking around for that. The Benton House is full. Oaks, both oaks are full to capacity. These people have nowhere to go. My thing is, if you're gonna close it down, close it down. I don't care. But my thing is they don't have nowhere to go right now. I got residents at my facility that's I don't even have family members to come see. [1:54:44, 1:54:44]: See ya. [1:54:44, 1:54:45]: We their family. [1:54:46, 1:54:48]: If I had a house big enough, I'd take them all home with me. [1:54:49, 1:55:09]: You know, that's just how I feel right now. I mean, I know y'all gonna do whatever y'all wanna do regardless. I got families that's been there, family members here that come to support what we got going on right now. It just hurt my heart to know that um you got people that's honestly wanna turn this and back into I was there I was there yesterday the whole weekend when the golf people was up there hitting it with the music. I was [1:55:09, 1:55:15]: Out there looking and seeing how things were, I get it. If y'all want a hotel that bad, turn your country club into a hotel. [1:55:15, 1:55:20]: And and and and f do it like that. That's how I feel about that. Thank you. Thank you. Sir, please, your name and address. [1:55:29, 1:55:29]: Evening. [1:55:30, 1:55:33]: Another third Indian number stock reached Georgia. [1:55:34, 1:55:54]: Um, I do want to start first by saying that I do appreciate the concept. I appreciate what's being proposed, and I appreciate the excellence of the country club and the area and the equal landing community. But I do want to point out that my mother is a two-year-old dementia patient. [1:55:54, 1:56:14]: She is resin, I think golden crest. Um, I do also want to point out that hearing tonight that the facility is in such turmoil that it will close definitely is the first that we've heard of it. We've not been told that at all. So to come here in a public hearing and hear and soon. [1:56:14, 1:56:34]: The facility will be shut down with no notice whatsoever. That to me shows a level of non-compassion towards not only just the residents but their families and the entire community. And I feel like there's been somewhat of a whitewash potentially of what actually the plan is. And again, I do respect progress. I understand it's a necessity. [1:56:34, 1:56:51]: I understand the need for the development. I get it and I understand the financial impact that it would have. That part I don't deny. But this next part I do want to read because I will get emotional about it. But I just do want to say that this is more than just a facility for memory care. [1:56:51, 1:56:53]: This is a community. [1:56:54, 1:57:04]: And if you're familiar at all with the effects of dementia, you know that one of the key components for a smooth management and transition on a day-to-day is that of consistency. [1:57:05, 1:57:25]: What this community provides for not only the residents but for their families and the staff is a sense of consistency in community. When any or all of that is thrown into disarray, nothing but confusion, chaos, and overall uncertainty are the results. Many of the residents in this golden press do not have families. [1:57:25, 1:57:43]: to support them. So their fellow residents and the staff have become their family. And the staff in many ways become their own support system. And they are the consistency that they require in their lives to thrive or in some cases to simply exist while dealing with this horrendous debilitating disease. [1:57:45, 1:58:00]: In a cultural climate where divisiveness is the norm, what are we to say to our loved ones when suddenly their home is taken from them and their solidarity, self-esteem, and independence, not to mention their levels of confidence and support, are ripped. [1:58:00, 1:58:20]: From them simply by the desire for a boutique hotel. For those who have lived their entire lives through adversity, struggles, fights for equality, equity, and inclusion, turning against them in their golden years when they need us the most will only serve to discredit their entire life's work and [1:58:20, 1:58:22]: their worthiness by tossing them aside. [1:58:25, 1:58:39]: Upon viewing Golden Crest, when we toured all of the communities that you mentioned, we toured when looking for a place for Mama to be. When she walked in the doors of Golden Crest, the first thing out of her mouth was, this feels like home. [1:58:40, 1:59:00]: She had been adamant that leading up to all of this, I have a house, I don't need to go anywhere, I'm gonna stay home, figure out home care. But we didn't have that financial situation to where we could afford home health care. And it is true that okay, maybe there are other spaces available. I I don't know the exact, but [1:59:00, 1:59:20]: The price range is quite higher than what is offered at Cole Prince. And my mother and her husband do not have the affordability to be moved to a new space. If they're willing to honor their contract and provide the rate that they contracted for, then that could be an option. Yes, I think that needs to be looked at. [1:59:20, 1:59:40]: But like I said, there's been no communication from the owner of the facility, to the staff, to the residents, to their families. So that part of it makes me very, very leery as to what bill of goods has been sold. So I'll finish with that. And again, I just want to say I do respect the Eagles Landing community. I understand its significance in the area. [1:59:40, 1:59:41]: And in the state. [1:59:42, 1:59:45]: But I do also hope that you guys will consider [1:59:46, 1:59:50]: the significance of the people that count on that space to live their lives. [1:59:53, 2:00:05]: Thank you. All right, so um sir, I need to and and the the man not you you're fine, sir. The management for from Golden Crest. I need for you to come back up uh please answer a couple of things here. [2:00:09, 2:00:20]: Now you you gentlemen heard everything I heard, all right? So the compassion, the notification. You need to try to explain that if you can for these folks here. The note the lack of notification indicating that first heard this year. [2:00:20, 2:00:40]: and any type of assistance. You talked about the the contract or lease that is in reference to the the the legal ramifications and what you have to do legally in reference to that. And and there are you say there are other places in the media area which they are. You know, uh have you really reached out to them to see whether or not those vacancies do exist and how can you potentially help these people. So can you [2:00:40, 2:00:42]: We further explain before we make the decision here. [2:00:42, 2:00:43]: So that [2:00:43, 2:00:46]: And get please on a mic, sir. If you get closer to the mic, please. [2:00:47, 2:00:47]: Oh. [2:00:48, 2:01:08]: Uh just from the information that I've been given from my client, they have called around and there is availability, sufficient availability for the 13 residents that are there. Um the business is closing down. I mentioned uh during the presentation that they're preparing the notices this week. They're gonna go out either later this week or next week. [2:01:08, 2:01:18]: Um I as far as the communication before, um I I couldn't tell ya, I've just gotten involved in this in the last couple of weeks. Um, but uh the notices are being prepared right now. [2:01:18, 2:01:20]: Can you add anything else, sir? [2:01:22, 2:01:35]: We will discharge the residents and close the community to the state of Georgia's guidelines. The is not a question of if the community's gonna close, it's the community will close. [2:01:37, 2:01:41]: All right. Mayor. Yeah, I was gonna say, you go ahead, please. [2:01:42, 2:01:43]: So I'm I'm a little um [2:01:46, 2:01:50]: These are these are the tough times. These are when you hear the stories about [2:01:51, 2:01:57]: the patients with dementia or fam people who family don't come to visit. [2:01:57, 2:01:59]: That turp touch your heart, right? [2:01:59, 2:02:01]: I understand it's a business [2:02:02, 2:02:04]: But we also have to do it with respect. [2:02:05, 2:02:05]: Right. [2:02:05, 2:02:09]: In in in a fashion. Thirty days is definitely not enough time. [2:02:09, 2:02:10]: For any w I mean [2:02:10, 2:02:13]: It's it's hard for a person with that's working. [2:02:14, 2:02:20]: You're talking about seniors with health conditions and are are living out their golden years. [2:02:21, 2:02:21]: And so [2:02:22, 2:02:25]: I would ask that the owner have some compassion. [2:02:26, 2:02:31]: Um in regards to that. I'm I'm concerned and I know you said that [2:02:33, 2:02:35]: It's gonna close down regardless. [2:02:35, 2:02:42]: But on the Facebook page here, it says that you're open for business and you're welcoming new patients. And that was June thirty first. [2:02:44, 2:02:45]: July thirty first. [2:02:46, 2:02:49]: It says welcome home to Golden Caress at Eagles Landing. [2:02:49, 2:02:51]: We're accepting new residents. [2:02:52, 2:02:54]: Please stop by our community anytime. [2:02:55, 2:02:59]: For a tour or contact Patrice Washington, who is that? [2:02:59, 2:02:59]: Yeah. [2:03:00, 2:03:05]: Where is she? At seven Patrice, can you come up here for me, please? [2:03:09, 2:03:20]: At seven seven zero three eight nine three one one eight any questions you might have. And then they give their hashtags and they have a brochure out here. That's July thirty first. [2:03:21, 2:03:23]: And then four days ago. [2:03:25, 2:03:26]: Ready to find your new home. [2:03:27, 2:03:37]: Book a tour of the community today. Discover the perfect blend of comfort and support. Click the link to schedule your visit now. [2:03:38, 2:03:41]: So if you're closing down. [2:03:44, 2:04:04]: And I I listen, I was here um back in the day with the Eagles Landing Inn. It was very helpful. I was here when they had the women PGA tournaments and I lived in Eagles Landing and we appreciate the hotel. I I lived in the Eagles Landing community. Um we appreciate the [2:04:05, 2:04:12]: um, hotel for your guest and for everyone else. And I I still think it's a great idea, especially if the owner [2:04:13, 2:04:24]: is saying that there's no hope, but the owner's not here. The owner of Southern Crescent's not here. Golden Crest is not here. And I don't want to be sold a dream and find out that they were pushed off or nobody [2:04:24, 2:04:41]: bothered to tell them about the meeting or they didn't come or they bought out. I wanna know the details from that owner because your advertising, sir, maybe you can answer that or ma'am, maybe you can answer that. This is July thirty first. That was a not too long what's today? [2:04:41, 2:04:42]: The twelfth. [2:04:42, 2:04:44]: That was a little less. [2:04:45, 2:04:47]: And four days ago, advertising again. [2:04:48, 2:04:55]: So I need some kind of answers because I you know, although it's business and I I do support a hotel. [2:04:56, 2:04:58]: I can't sleep at night. [2:04:59, 2:05:00]: I still have to sleep. [2:05:02, 2:05:09]: I still have a heart. I had grandparents. I have aunts and uncles. So I'm not gonna just let it go. [2:05:10, 2:05:14]: By someone's words. Someone's gonna have to tell me why this is being advertised here today. [2:05:15, 2:05:25]: Well, from what I know, I wasn't told that we were closing. This evening is the first time that I'm hearing this. So we are still accepting residents. [2:05:26, 2:05:28]: And we plan to [2:05:29, 2:05:31]: Until we get that official notice that we're closing. [2:05:35, 2:05:39]: You sir, do you have anything else you need to add to that? All right. Go ahead, Lukisa. [2:05:40, 2:05:41]: You got anything else? [2:05:41, 2:05:46]: I you can Sir, can you tell me what what the deal is with that? Where's the owner and [2:05:47, 2:06:03]: Can you tell me about why they're advertising four days that they're still open and no one the residents aren't sure and although thir don't there's only thirteen remaining because they're afraid and they've heard and got wind of how many left? Nineteen? [2:06:04, 2:06:05]: Nineteen remaining. [2:06:06, 2:06:09]: Should we really talk to him for a moment? Can we can we find out [2:06:10, 2:06:13]: At least like I'm not comfortable with voting. [2:06:14, 2:06:27]: until I hear from an owner or they at least give some kind of respect to these to people, the the the the p the children who have put their family into these homes. [2:06:28, 2:06:32]: You're you're saying thirty days and then you give me that boilerplate lawyer talk. [2:06:33, 2:06:37]: that you've been coached to give. I'm not down for that. It's not gonna work. [2:06:38, 2:06:40]: I don't need an applause for it. [2:06:41, 2:06:45]: This is this is this is the way it works. Like [2:06:46, 2:06:48]: We're still human beings. [2:06:48, 2:06:51]: The world still needs love and that's the problem we have. [2:06:53, 2:06:54]: So [2:06:55, 2:06:59]: I'm not gonna vote for it today. I don't care what wha um my colleagues can do whatever they want to do. [2:07:00, 2:07:08]: But I need to know from the owner. I need to hear a letter and I need to have letters given out to residents before I can make a decision. [2:07:09, 2:07:10]: On something like this. [2:07:12, 2:07:31]: I cannot see some I don't know what the illnesses are of patients and you're just putting them out on the street and then are they gonna be charged to stay at the hotel you gotta renovate or you're gonna have to evict them out? No one's getting any type of stipend to move out because it's month to month. [2:07:31, 2:07:39]: And it just sounds like a really bad deal. And they may not be slum lords, but this sure is not a right this is not a good way of doing things. [2:07:39, 2:07:42]: It's not a good way of handling business and I'm not pleased. [2:07:43, 2:07:44]: So [2:07:45, 2:07:47]: Find a way to make it right. [2:07:49, 2:07:51]: Okay, Mr. Barrett, go ahead, please. [2:07:51, 2:08:11]: To piggyback off of Councilwoman Gantt, my my question, you you mentioned earlier that that there was a um rule that you couldn't just put people out on the street, that you had to put them into a safe place. Elaborate on that process. What does that look like? Explain what the safe place looks like. So if if there [2:08:11, 2:08:26]: used to a certain rate and they can't find that rate at one of the facilities that are in the state within, you know, proximity, where would you dischar how would how does that work? Elaborate on how the discharge works to this safe place. [2:08:29, 2:08:42]: Um I was just asking uh my client. He doesn't have that information himself and I'm not a uh nurse uh nursing uh home lawyer. I don't know the law myself into that. Um so I unfortunately can't answer your question on that. Um [2:08:43, 2:08:44]: Uh but [2:08:45, 2:08:51]: I I was an the information that I've gotten is that it cannot [2:08:52, 2:09:12]: Stay open, it does not have the money to do that. I don't know why there were advertisements. I really don't. I don't know if they have a marketing team that just wasn't, you know, there's a disconnect uh information-wise. I know when things close down, especially when um businesses are out of money, there's sort of like a fog of war type thing. Like you don't want to tell everybody that we're close. [2:09:12, 2:09:22]: closing you know next week and then all the employees that we need are, you know, they leave. So I I just couldn't tell you man management wise [2:09:22, 2:09:28]: why that advertisement's there, I I don't know. I just do know that it was told to me emphatically that [2:09:29, 2:09:32]: It it it this is horrible about having to displace but [2:09:33, 2:09:53]: it's not gonna be able to continue to house residents that much longer. It's gonna have to close down. And yeah, and I and I understand that. And so also my my second concern is to the staff as well, because a lot of them have dependency on their income. Is there some type of severance in at work or something type to to help them [2:09:53, 2:10:13]: transition to uh other employment because a lot of the people who work here tonight said they just learned about it tonight as well. And so if we're talking about a 30-day transition as well, we have residents of Stockbridge who work there who may not have a a job in the next 30 days as well. So they could very well we don't know every [2:10:13, 2:10:33]: Financial circumstances that could not just hit the residents, but it could also hit your employees and staff as well. Absolutely. And that's concerned too. And and again, I don't have that level of detail for management, how they're dealing with HR and severance or if if anything like that. Um, I know that they have uh a facility in Smyrna and they would love to be able to take good care of [2:10:33, 2:10:53]: of their employees and if they're and try to if they wanna come up and drive up and tran uh commute to Smyrna, possibly transferring there. So can so can that happen? Can there be some internal uh mechanisms and conversations about the staff transitioning to the other locations that are in your network? Can there be some communications and [2:10:53, 2:11:13]: and and and plans and transitions for the staff who are there to go to some of the open beds in the other facilities so that the transition is smooth and and and easy. I know we're s we're we're we're talking in general terms that, you know, it's gonna close. I know it's gonna close. I know it's gonna close, but we still have to prepare for it. We can't just say it's gonna close without [2:11:13, 2:11:33]: Anything we do, we prepare for it. And so when you got a lot of moving parts like what you guys have and you have the residents there as well, we we we get the inevit the inevitability of the six situation and the circumstance. How do we get 19 people to move in the next 30 days safely, securely, and staff to help them train [2:11:33, 2:11:34]: Transition to not [2:11:35, 2:11:55]: have gaps in employment. How can can we address that tonight? Or if not tonight, when can we at least address that so that we can feel comfortable with the process? Cause I don't think nobody here wants to, you know, try to force the hand, but there is a compassionate part here from everyone in this room to make sure that those res residents transition safely so that [2:11:54, 2:12:00]: everyone can move the business forward. Sure, sure. And um [2:12:07, 2:12:27]: Um I just wanted to make sure um because I again I don't have that information, but um we do understand it's it's important and to have a methodical transition. If if the uh the council wishes, we'd be glad to bring to table this and bring some and bring management uh management team up here, they can talk. [2:12:27, 2:12:33]: about more of the details of the transition. I was just here about the land use, not you know. [2:12:33, 2:12:37]: Sorry. That's another Mr. Thomas Quinn, please. [2:12:38, 2:12:52]: I I I think that's the best thing we heard today about tabling it,'cause uh the the vibration that I'm getting, you probably won't get the vote tonight. And and I think all of us and I'm pretty sure a lot of folks here [2:12:52, 2:12:54]: Have family members. [2:12:54, 2:13:10]: And know of the elderly that are going through these issues. Um personally, um I have some relatives that are at home uh being cared for by, you know, siblings and [2:13:11, 2:13:13]: This is this is this is [2:13:13, 2:13:14]: It's hard. [2:13:15, 2:13:17]: And and I can see and feel. [2:13:18, 2:13:30]: uh the compassion from the staff and and I and I get that and I understand and I understand too about the future. All of the comments that was in favor, we get that. And we're all on board with that. [2:13:31, 2:13:34]: Бо ви кана степ овер. [2:13:35, 2:13:38]: The humanity of this. [2:13:39, 2:13:42]: So I I would say that the owner need to come. [2:13:43, 2:13:48]: entertain some of the questions. It just seems that there's just some things that need to be worked out. [2:13:49, 2:13:57]: If it's true that it's going to close anyway, then I would imagine that some things would just already be in progress. [2:13:58, 2:14:00]: But I would recommend that we do table [2:14:01, 2:14:02]: And that [2:14:02, 2:14:09]: S someone other than yourself come that who can answer some of the question. I know you said you cannot answer some of those. [2:14:10, 2:14:23]: But somebody needs to come to be able to speak to the concerns that we have here and maybe we can go forward. But today, I I don't think we can go forward. I well, I don't think I can go forward. [2:14:23, 2:14:31]: Sure. Thank you, Mayor. Out of curiosity, the the owner is it is lo someone local? How local? If l in a local Atlanta metro area or in the state of Georgia? [2:14:32, 2:14:46]: No, no. The owner's not in the Atlanta Metro area. But you have you have three different uh three different total three different uh facilities. So it's gotta be someone that's a s senior hierarchy that's in those w managing those three facilities. Who is that individual and where they look at it? [2:14:46, 2:14:55]: I can uh w there is a r uh regional operations person that is is here that could speak to how the transition works. [2:14:55, 2:14:59]: And that individual's gotta be in the nine metro area somewhere. Yes, they are. [2:14:59, 2:15:00]: Okay. [2:15:01, 2:15:06]: And I should have been here with you tonight. Mayor. That's really that's really what should have happened. Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [2:15:07, 2:15:10]: I I move that this item be tabled until [2:15:11, 2:15:11]: Yeah. [2:15:12, 2:15:32]: Okay, stand stand by. Mr. Thomas, stand by. I yield to uh Mr. Alexander. Go ahead, Mr. Alexander. Yes, sir. Uh certainly I appreciate all of the comments. You know, and um every and we certainly want to make sure that we've been uh extremely compassionate to uh what's going on in terms of the transition of the residents. I think we got stuck on [2:15:32, 2:15:52]: on the 30 days and I don't think nobody really believes that in that the residents are gonna be evicted in 30 days because that's not going to happen. So we understand that that is the legal language that is applied. And certainly we want to be uh sympathetic and make sure that there's a trans transition plan. Ms. Girvin will you come back up [2:15:52, 2:15:53]: Um [2:16:02, 2:16:05]: Obviously in terms of [2:16:05, 2:16:25]: what you've heard tonight, you understand that there is a desire to make sure that w this transition is done in a compassionate way. Oh absolutely. Obviously you you we all have um elderly parents or grandparents and we certainly would want to be sympathetic in this particular circumstance and situation. So [2:16:25, 2:16:45]: So in terms of this financially, in terms of you have a financial impact as to you as well. So the timing of this, certainly, you have a contract and on the property and what have you. So do you have some leeway with which, and I think your attorney did indicate that. [2:16:44, 2:16:50]: that you had some leeway uh in order to uh facilitate a transition. [2:16:51, 2:17:02]: Uh yes I do. I believe in this project and I'm willing to to wait. Okay. What what is what would be the uh if you just uh sir, I don't know maybe you want to speak on this what would be the timing that you would need [2:17:05, 2:17:22]: I think we can get who we need to get down here to answer those questions about a transition plan uh within uh thirty days. So the next one if we've if we table this, I guess I need a legal opinion on we table this, how soon can we bring it legally back, first of all. If we if it's tabled can we come back in thirty days, can we legally do that? [2:17:25, 2:17:27]: I'm sorry, in the September meeting? [2:17:28, 2:17:29]: All right. [2:17:29, 2:17:49]: So basically what is going to happen is we're building in thirty more days already in terms of what the notification would be. And you said the timing is that you have planned on sending out the notices this week. Is that what either the end of this week or next week, uh they'll they'll go out. So in essence, what has happened is that the time [2:17:49, 2:18:09]: Timetable is now slid in terms of you would be coming back before us 30 days, and then you would need 30 days from that basically to basically if you wanted to close down the operations, you would need so that would put us at about 60 days at that point, and then there would be an explanation. [2:18:09, 2:18:29]: of what their transition plan would be from the potential ex potential exit plan would be from the owner of the property. The the 30 day start or the or the or the executive of the property, John. The 30 day starts from the notice, but um the reason why I can't I can't give you more [2:18:29, 2:18:47]: uh information on uh is it gonna be sixty or ninety I don't I don't know the particular finances myself and it's more of a management I can't speak for them uh when they're not here. So um we can send the notices out uh as planned, uh that'll start thirty days, but I don't really see any um [2:18:49, 2:18:53]: I don't want to speak for management, but I don't see anybody moving that quickly. [2:18:54, 2:19:14]: Okay, it's what is what I'm s I wanna make sure is that we're balancing both sides in terms of making sure that the residents are have this thirty extra days that we're building into the calendar right now for the transition to be explained. So Ms. Gervin, uh should it the whatever decision be made, you're comfortable with basic [2:19:14, 2:19:34]: Basically, going out to that point would be sixty to ninety days at that point, you're comfortable with that. Okay, and giving the residents the chance t or or management the time to come up with a compassionate transition plan because as you have indicated, and I and I and I certainly have. [2:19:34, 2:19:54]: compassion for the residents, but we're up against a wall which says if you're gonna close down, you're gonna close down and or you're sending out you're sending out the notices this week or next week. And no matter what we do, that's kind of where we are right now. So what we got to do is we got to come up with whatever the plan is going [2:19:54, 2:20:14]: To be and then be able to uh compassionately transition, or and on a or conversely, if the plan is not satisfactory, extend the time or maybe not do it at all. So there's those options on the table, but you have indicated as the purchaser that you're willing to extend the time to maybe 60 to 90 days in [2:20:14, 2:20:34]: In order to work out the transition, we just basically you're stating that that a plan, someone that needs to come back with a plan before us at that point. So is the 30-days time frame going to give you enough time to have the this representative come to the council to present uh this presentation? [2:20:34, 2:20:35]: Plan. [2:20:35, 2:20:36]: I think so. [2:20:37, 2:20:42]: And certainly in the meantime, we certainly don't want to find ourselves in a position of [2:20:42, 2:21:02]: having someone communicate to the person who's doing the marketing that you should not be doing any further marketing at this point because it seems it just like you said, I think maybe there was some disconnect between what was going on and what the marketing team, maybe that was something uh that was they that they were doing routinely. [2:21:02, 2:21:14]: or or something that was being posted regularly, but certainly it was inappropriate if you're looking at closing the facility down. It's definitely inconsistent, definitely. [2:21:14, 2:21:34]: Okay, so uh I will make a motion to table this. Hold hold on one second before you go any further, one second. September ninth is our next council meeting. So today's the twelfth, so September ninth, so it's within a thirty-day period. That's our that's our next uh a council meeting, city council meeting. We have a work session of this at the end of this month, but that's that's too that's too soon. So September ninth is what we're shooting for. [2:21:34, 2:21:41]: And legally that we can we if it's a table uh then legally we can do that, put it on the next agenda to handle that. Right, Mr. Washington? [2:21:42, 2:21:52]: All right, thank you. All right. I okay you got it, sir? That's right. All right, I just I know okay, whatever the mo I mister uh Mr Thomas was gonna make a motion earlier. Yes, sir. [2:21:53, 2:22:13]: Councilman Alexander. Okay, go right ahead. Mr. Alexander. Thank you. As a district representative, I will make the motion to bring this back before the council uh on September the ninth, and that will be contingent upon the executive coming in, talking to the council, explaining uh what is a potential transition. [2:22:13, 2:22:33]: Plan and Ms. Gervin has indicated that she's acceptable to the 60 to 90 days, and that would be required in any plan that you would put forth. So don't have them come back and tell us that it's going to be 30 days because that's not going to be acceptable. You've already agreed and a contingent upon and [2:22:33, 2:22:53]: I'm putting that into motion that you can okay with 60 to 90 days, and that would be the plan anybody would bring to us. And the council will have a author the the ability to accept or reject that plan, but depending upon how compassionate it is, but that's what you are agreeable to tonight. Absolutely. [2:22:53, 2:22:58]: Uh that's the motion. Is there a second emotion? Second. Mr. Barrett second. All in favor, please indicate. [2:23:00, 2:23:06]: NAMS decision. Okay. NAMS decision. All right. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. We'll see you in within 30 days. Sounds great. [2:23:07, 2:23:27]: Alright, we'll move on to um new business. Council consideration to approve the stormwater division to use the five hundred seventy-three thousand six hundred and fifty-three dollars allocated in Splas 5 to perform stormwater repairs within the stormwater management system. Stormwater division proposes to utilize site engineering on the city's on-the-con- [2:23:27, 2:23:34]: On call water and sewer emergency and operational repair maintenance construction service vendor. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:23:34, 2:23:54]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. We're uh in Splas 5, there were some funds allocated for stormwater repairs. And over the last year, since 2023, we've been encountering a lot of stormwater issues, a lot of them in the recently annexed areas. And we just want to come before you so we don't have to keep bringing in [2:23:54, 2:24:05]: individual projects before council for approval if you'll allow us to go ahead and use the money that was allocated in SPLOS5 for stormwater projects. [2:24:05, 2:24:07]: All right, any questions, Council for Mr. Aaron? [2:24:10, 2:24:12]: Any questions? Ma'am. Yes, ma'am? [2:24:13, 2:24:30]: I move that we approve the stormwater division's use of the five hundred seventy six seventy-three thousand six hundred fifty-three dollars allocated to splash five to perform stormwater repairs as as stated. Sir second the motion. Mr. Barrett, second at all in favor, please indicate. [2:24:31, 2:24:35]: Unam's decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. No problem. [2:24:37, 2:24:45]: Number seven, Council consideration to fill vacancy of ethics committee for unexpired term, presented by Mr. Washington, please. [2:24:49, 2:25:09]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. We have two applications. One is Miss Mary Scott for the Board of Ethics, and that is enclosing your notebooks, as well as Miss Toseka Thomas. Those are the two that you all can choose from for the vacant slot on the Board of Ethics. It's only one slot vacant, is that correct? Correct. Okay. [2:25:09, 2:25:11]: One slide. [2:25:13, 2:25:13]: Okay. [2:25:15, 2:25:20]: And then the DDA is one slot, there's only one slot available in one applicant. [2:25:20, 2:25:29]: We'll get to that in a second, sir. Okay. Let's take one at a time. So on the ethics committee, anybody have any uh motion to either one of these individuals? [2:25:30, 2:25:33]: Well, I believe we discussed those in the executive session. [2:25:34, 2:25:36]: Well got two people and we got one [2:25:37, 2:25:39]: Yeah, somebody gotta choose. [2:25:40, 2:25:42]: Don't know we wanna debate that out here, do we? [2:25:46, 2:25:53]: Ca we can't do that. We have to we have to make a decision out here. This is not something that we can do in a Zeke session. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [2:25:54, 2:25:57]: I moved to appoint Mary Scott to the Antix Board. [2:25:58, 2:26:00]: All right. Is there a second motion? [2:26:03, 2:26:09]: Is there a second to that motion? I was second. Mr. Thomas seconds that all in favor please indicate. [2:26:12, 2:26:13]: Opposed. [2:26:14, 2:26:25]: Same. Say same Mr. Ellison. So I'm not sure who that is and how we came to the conclusion that that was the best applicant. The motion was made seconded. [2:26:26, 2:26:32]: Okay, so what's your vote, sir? Are you uh you you I'm abstaining because uh I w there was no discussion on the applicants? [2:26:33, 2:26:33]: Yeah. [2:26:33, 2:26:47]: Okay. In the in the past we've had discussions on Africa. We can't do that. We can't What well you can have discussion. You can have discussions. [2:26:49, 2:26:50]: We [2:26:50, 2:26:52]: Been doing that for years. [2:26:52, 2:26:54]: I understand it, but I've been informed we've been doing that not properly. [2:27:01, 2:27:05]: So right at this point the motion passed three what I'm sorry, Mayor, hold one moment. [2:27:09, 2:27:12]: I'm gonna go with the person who's been here the longest. [2:27:17, 2:27:19]: That looks like Mary Scott. [2:27:20, 2:27:23]: Okay. Motion passed three zero two. [2:27:23, 2:27:36]: What I less you're changing you unless you change your motion here. I mean you're voting. Well, I'm changing. I don't know who Mary Scott is. I don't e know either candidate, but she's been here the longest and they both are qualified so Mary Scott it is. [2:27:38, 2:27:46]: The motion was made, the second by uh second by you, Ms. I would just like to c ask a question. Does anybody up here know Mary Scott? [2:27:48, 2:27:52]: I would imagine You made the motion, Miss Barber. I imagine she does, I don't. [2:27:54, 2:27:55]: Mayor forward. [2:27:57, 2:28:04]: Um okay. Mr Thomas. I don't know. Uh I'm just reading the information that's provided. [2:28:05, 2:28:06]: I don't know. [2:28:07, 2:28:08]: Uh you're right. Uh [2:28:10, 2:28:18]: I'm I'm gonna have that stuff. I don't know any I don't know and we I didn't know we couldn't talk about it like that, but I I need to know. I don't know. [2:28:20, 2:28:36]: I don't have anything against Mary Scott. I just wanna make sure that uh we these positions are very important. These people are making important decisions and certainly we need to make sure that the person is qualified for it and that uh the qu uh you're stating that the qualif [2:28:38, 2:28:40]: So yes, but [2:28:42, 2:28:46]: to this process we will present these but these [2:28:48, 2:28:50]: Legal's not involved in the bedding of these candidates. [2:28:52, 2:29:06]: Ms. Holliday, are you you you you these candidates meet the criteria of as being required to uh fill submission for these particular uh board applications and all criteria? [2:29:06, 2:29:11]: Councilman Alexander, they are resident and they have been um [2:29:12, 2:29:18]: We submitted the background check to municipal port and they've come back clean on both of them. [2:29:21, 2:29:27]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. I'll move I pa I pass. Yes, sir. What what I like to recommend [2:29:28, 2:29:34]: Understanding that we have been um not [2:29:35, 2:29:37]: looking at these applications properly. [2:29:38, 2:29:44]: And if we have this kind of concern where we have applicants and we don't know them [2:29:45, 2:29:47]: I I think we have to [2:29:47, 2:29:49]: Take the time. [2:29:50, 2:30:10]: When we know that these positions are going to be filled ahead of time to be proactive, to ask the questions, to do the research before the actual council meeting. I think we sort of new that this was on the agenda. We had the uh information in the booklet about [2:30:10, 2:30:27]: about them. So I guess my point is if if we if we have those kind of concerns, we need to try to get all of that answered before we get to this point going toward the future. I know we're here today, but in the future, if we're gonna have this kind of concern, especially [2:30:28, 2:30:29]: If we have not been [2:30:30, 2:30:33]: doing this, I'm not gonna say incorrectly, but [2:30:33, 2:30:40]: We're just trying to do it a little bit more efficient now. I would suggest that when we have these kind of [2:30:40, 2:30:45]: uh agenda items coming that we do our due due diligence. [2:30:45, 2:30:46]: In [2:30:47, 2:30:56]: You know, so we can make the vote and that that's my point. Uh I think we had an opportunity to do just that, but we didn't do it, and now here we are. [2:30:56, 2:30:57]: Um [2:30:58, 2:31:18]: you know, sort of stumbling with it, but I think in the future, and I'm really speaking to the council now. So when we have these agenda items, let's just do what we need to do so when we do get here, we can make a uh an intelligent vote because we have research or ask some questions or [2:31:18, 2:31:25]: Whatever we need to do, but here today I I just think it's it it's a little late on this particular application. [2:31:25, 2:31:25]: Mm-hmm. [2:31:26, 2:31:46]: Yes, sir. What what I was honestly, Councilman Thomas, I agree with you, but certainly I I had anticipated a different process. So I was kind of reliant on that process of going into going into the discussion, not understanding that that's what I wasn't under understanding that we weren't gonna do that. [2:31:46, 2:32:06]: Or we were gonna be advised not to do that. So that's what I base my decision on is what we've done this in the past. But you know, if the clerk says the individual is qualified and meets all the qualifications, um, then uh there's certainly no reason to deny the person. But I just like I said, normally if we have one person [2:32:06, 2:32:26]: And it's easy. We don't even have to go. But I don't I I just like to be able to weigh the two people who are being suggested to understand more and it's good to have somebody, okay. Well, did you have some uh type of personal references or what have you to go with uh the applications? But with borrowing that not being the [2:32:25, 2:32:33]: the case then we gotta make a decision uh based on this or or table it for more time or in in uh in information. [2:32:34, 2:32:37]: Well motion's already made and passed, but go ahead, Miss Miss Gantt. [2:32:37, 2:32:48]: I'm I'm sorry, I would ask I would like to ask my colleagues to reconsider that. Um for now. We can always table I think the ethics board is a r you know, really important and it's important for us to know [2:32:49, 2:32:56]: who we are voting for. Not one member we it was asked do you know either one of the applicants and no one knows who [2:32:57, 2:33:01]: we are voting for. In addition to that, there's no resume attached. [2:33:02, 2:33:11]: there's w one with the lease and the other with just an address, there's nothing to go by. So I don't feel comfortable if no one on here knows [2:33:12, 2:33:13]: Who we're voting for? [2:33:14, 2:33:15]: Then [2:33:16, 2:33:16]: You know. [2:33:16, 2:33:27]: Or can vouch or say one way or another, then I'd I would ask that the people who voted for wait, did I I changed my vote? Motion the initial motion is made by Miss Barber. [2:33:27, 2:33:47]: Okay. Yeah, but we can do a motion for recon not reconsideration or judgment. No, you can't you can't do unless unless you're on this motion to people on the prevailing side can't. The prevailing side could make a motion to um rescind them rescind the vote or however we need to do it. [2:33:48, 2:34:04]: Um I've I've started speaking in legal. I done got it come jungled combobulated together. I just think that we should we don't have anything. Like we don't have a resume, we don't have anything. [2:34:04, 2:34:08]: So if we if no one knows the people who are applying [2:34:09, 2:34:12]: I think we should really take that into consideration and kind of [2:34:12, 2:34:13]: Maybe find out. [2:34:13, 2:34:17]: And and I'm sorry it's our fault. We didn't do our homework this time. [2:34:18, 2:34:19]: Ms. Barber, you were gonna say something? [2:34:21, 2:34:28]: We have one more board appointee to make. There's only one application that has been submitted. [2:34:30, 2:34:32]: Can we please move along? [2:34:33, 2:34:40]: Okay, so we can get through this agenda. Okay. I'm not going to rescind. Okay, she's not going to rescind. [2:34:41, 2:34:42]: Well I th I thought that [2:34:44, 2:34:49]: It normally would be on the prevailing side if one of the members on the prevailing side wants to reconsider their vote. [2:34:50, 2:34:52]: then they can make that motion to reconsider their vote. [2:34:53, 2:34:53]: Okay. [2:34:54, 2:34:59]: Well that that'd be left to she's not gonna she didn't want to change it unless one you two gentlemen wanna do that. [2:35:01, 2:35:03]: Okay, Mr. Thomas, you good? [2:35:04, 2:35:10]: All right, so it's it's great. It's three zero three zero two, motion pass. And Mary Scott is going to be on the ethics board. [2:35:10, 2:35:15]: Well I abstained. I just three zero two, two abstentions. Uh Mr. [2:35:16, 2:35:18]: Alexander abstained uh abstained as well. Okay correct? [2:35:20, 2:35:22]: Yes. Thank you. So three zero two, motion passed. [2:35:24, 2:35:34]: All right, so what we have next is council consideration to appoint a member of the downtown development authority to fill an unxpired term. There's only one individual for that, Mr. Jerry Mays. [2:35:35, 2:35:44]: Is um is the individual. Uh Mr Washington, anything sir? No, that's the the application is as it stands and you all bind. [2:35:44, 2:35:53]: Mayor. Yes, sir. I make a recommendation we accept the uh Mr. Mays and point to the downtown development authority. Okay, is there a second emotion? [2:35:54, 2:35:56]: Mr. Barrett second fair please indicate. [2:35:57, 2:35:59]: Oh I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir. [2:36:00, 2:36:01]: I just wanted to make a point. [2:36:03, 2:36:20]: And I guess the question, does anyone know this particular particular applicant? Well, the downtown development authority recommended the individual. So that's how we ended up with this. One of the board members did, so that's kinda where we are. There's there was some knowledge of the individual. But does anyone in on counsel know the person? [2:36:21, 2:36:23]: I d I don't I don't think I do. [2:36:24, 2:36:27]: So I'm just trying to make a point about principle. [2:36:28, 2:36:48]: Uh I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Well let me let me just say if if if there was a board, that's what we generally do. We look to the board to recommend or to make a statement or we've been soliciting members on the downtown development authority for the board. So that's kind of where we are. And normally [2:36:48, 2:37:01]: when the board makes a recommendation, we look at the board and say, if there was a situation where we had a board that had recommended the person for the previous committee, that would have affected my decision in the affirmative. [2:37:01, 2:37:20]: Mayor forward. Yes, sir. So i is this a board recommendation or is this an individual recommendation? This is an individual that is not that was there was an individual that was recommended from what I understand by one of the board members. Not a board decision, but it was someone familiar that recommended them. [2:37:21, 2:37:30]: To answer your question, Mr. Thomas, I all I know is what Mr Alexander just said. That's all I know. [2:37:31, 2:37:51]: And I just want clarification, was it the board or was it an individual? But I I'm okay with whatever we do tonight, but I'm just trying to speak to a principle and a process. But I'm okay, ma'am. You can move forward. I'm okay, you can move forward. Okay, well, okay. Mr. Alexander, you made a motion. I believe Member Pro Tem, you you second that. Okay, so all favor, Terry Mays, please. [2:37:51, 2:38:11]: Okay, anamus decision. Okay, thank you. So Mr. Mays will join the DDA. All right. And what we have now announcements of upcoming meetings and events. And council meetings will be held in the city council chamber. Meeting dates, location, and times are subject to change, or to contact the city hall offices at 770-389-7900, or visit the website. [2:38:11, 2:38:31]: Website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. The Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, August 13th. Planning Commission meeting third Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, August 15th. Downtown Development Authority meeting 3rd [2:38:31, 2:38:47]: Tuesday of each month. Stockbridge Downtown Center 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail August 20th. New Council Advisory Committee meeting 630, third Tuesday of each month, the Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, August 20th. [2:38:48, 2:39:08]: City Council Work Session meeting the last Tuesday of each month, Tuesday, July 30th, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, August 27th. The community zoning and informational meeting, Thursday, August, that's already occurred, August 7th, 6 to 7, and City Hall Council Chambers. Stockbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting, first Thursday of each month. [2:39:08, 2:39:28]: 6 p.m. at Stockbridge Police Community Room 4545 North Henry Boulevard September 5th. City Council meeting, second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chamber, September 9th. Uh Council meeting, second Monday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, September 9th as well. [2:39:28, 2:39:39]: The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is the second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. location in Downtown Connection Center, 1.30 M. L. King Senior Heritage Trail. [2:39:39, 2:39:59]: Upcoming city events and initiatives. Join Councilman Afonso Thomas for the monthly senior bingo bash on Wednesday, August 14th from ten AM to twelve noon at Murray Manos Conference Center, one one one Davis Row for Raffles Prizes, Games, Snacks, and Fun. Join Councilwoman Lakeia Gantt for a partnership with Atlanta Food Truck Park for night [2:39:59, 2:40:17]: Market at the Starburst Amphitheater parking lot from 6 p.m. to 9 30 p.m. August 15th. There will be vendors, food trucks, activities, games, music, vibes. Contact Tan Bowers at tan at Atlanta Foodtruck Park dot com for registration and additional information. [2:40:19, 2:40:39]: Join Councilman Thomas for the 2nd District Curb Gutter and Sidewalks Town Hall on Thursday, August 15th from 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. at Floyd Chapel Baptist Church Family Life Center, located at 104 First Street, right in Stobbridge. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, August 26th from 10 a.m. to noon. [2:40:39, 2:40:59]: Stockbridge City Hall. Join Councilman Thomas with Don't Trash Stockbridge initiative centered around education, highlighting the causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. And more information to follow on that. [2:40:59, 2:41:19]: Please contact Rosland Rawls to schedule appointment with meet the mayor. For more information on council initiatives and events, you can call her at 678-833-3348 or send an email ralls at stopbridgega.org. Save the date for Bridge Fest 2024. It is coming. Are you ready? [2:41:19, 2:41:39]: City of Stockbridge government is hosting this annual event for the community on Saturday, September 28th, 2024. We'll have live concert food trucks, vendors, and more, of course. Get ready for the fun of Stockbridge Amphitheater. If you have any questions, please email B Bradley, B-B-R-A-D-L-E-Y at Stockbridge G-A.org. [2:41:39, 2:41:49]: ORG as soon as possible for vendor opportunities. And for the 2024 Stockbridge uh Amphitheater Concert Series, August Saturday, August 17th, coming up this week. [2:41:50, 2:42:10]: Mon uh Monica featuring Tamar Seven uh Streeter and Pretty Tammy, which is a DJ, and obviously this is going to be honoring the Divine Nine, the four SWARTEs of the Divine Nine primarily. So yeah, so ladies, if have you in the sword and have it cut where your colors Saturday evening. All right, and I know that Miss Ganobee then wearing her colors of pink and [2:42:10, 2:42:30]: Green and everything. So Sunday, August 20th, 2024, which is a rescheduled show for Charlie Wilson and special guest will be El DeBarge. If you were have a ticket for the original uh Charlie Wilson uh concert that was uh rough roughly over a month ago and we had it rained out through those storms and thunder and lightning, you can use your [2:42:30, 2:42:50]: Same ticket and same seat and it'd be honored. And this time you'll get a chance to see Elder Barge. So it's no change in all that. Bring your ticket back and you'll be able to sit in your same seat. October 26, 2024, it's our last concert of the year. Bony James, slow burn, torn uh torn, I guess it's torn, with special guest uh [2:42:50, 2:43:09]: Damien Escobar. And um let's see here. I got a couple of things here. And yes, the um Police Department, so excuse me, Police Department Citizens Police Council Town Hall. And they have a date on August 19th, 2024, right? Stockbridge First United Methodist Church. So [2:43:10, 2:43:12]: Yeah, for town hall, police council town hall. [2:43:12, 2:43:32]: August nineteenth. Um it doesn't give a time on this. The time would be on the police uh uh Starbury's Police Department's website. The three-year anniversary celebration of Starbury's Amphitheater was a Saturday, September 14th, featuring Coolden the gang and a special guest, of course. [2:43:32, 2:43:52]: Morris Day in the Time will be present for that. And uh and once again, of course, uh save the date uh for the 9-11 remembrance uh ceremony, which is Wednesday, September 11th, beginning at 8 a.m. right on City Hall steps, and we will never forget. And uh just a special note here in reference to [2:43:52, 2:44:12]: To uh the Olympics that have ended. Had a lot of different uh obviously, I believe the U.S. ended with the most medals and the most gold. But something special here, Miss Holliday has a first cousin, a cousin named Grant Holloway, that took gold in 110 uh hurdles. All right. [2:44:12, 2:44:16]: So congratulate to him, congratulate to uh Vanessa Holden or [2:44:17, 2:44:18]: And a relative there? [2:44:19, 2:44:31]: And uh also on that same race, Daniel Roberts, uh which is uh got silver, which is second place, and uh understanding he went to Eagle Atlanta High School right here in Hemley County, so congratulations to him as well. Okay. [2:44:33, 2:44:34]: Um [2:44:35, 2:44:48]: There's a lot of good things with that Olympics. And of course the next Olympics is gonna be in LA. So we'll see how many of us gets the LA get the LA to see the Olympics, right? On that note, we don't have uh ladies and gentlemen, we do not have a uh uh let's see here. [2:44:50, 2:44:54]: We do not one second, I'm not done. Excuse me. [2:44:54, 2:45:12]: How do I forget this? Chris Tucker and Friends. The comedian actor Chris Tucker has a concert. It's going to be for a benefit for his Chris Tucker Foundation, Saturday, August twenty fourth. Um and right here at Amphitheater, Chris Tucker and Friends by Live Music and Comedy. And so uh come on by and check that out. [2:45:12, 2:45:32]: And see what's happening with that concert and that activity. And then of course the Starbase Main Street Tiny Tent Concert Series. It's Fridays, weather permitting. The show will start at 6 p.m. and end at 8 p.m. The show will take place at 1 30 ML King Senior Heritage Trail and right in the downtown area. So you come by and enjoy good music. [2:45:32, 2:45:52]: local restaurants, our community. It's a gorgeous location. Bring your family, make a make it a date night, and uh come with your lawn chair. And on that note, uh yes, I have nothing else. No executive session. So council, I need a oh I'm sorry, there's one other thing. How can I forget this? Mr. Alexander, you did not remind me about this. I just happened to think about this, right? You and I [2:45:52, 2:46:12]: Sir yesterday with Eagles Hunting Country Club for the World Long Distance Drive Contest. And we have women, uh women, I think the winner of the women's uh contest uh level hit her hit their drive over, I think over three hundred yards, definitely three hundred yards, and the men were all over four hundred yards. Right. And so this is [2:46:12, 2:46:25]: is uh this and and Mr. Alexander and I were present to issue a a city proclamation to them. As well as two weeks ago at Eagles Land Country Club there was the actual legends of the LPGA [2:46:25, 2:46:45]: So these are female golfers, professional golfers that are retired that came back and for a benefit there as well. And we're also able to issue out a city proclamation to them. And this is something that we would like to continue doing a basis, uh yearly basis, provided that both these activities get back to the city of Stoppers, back to Eagles Landing Country Club in out years. So we look forward to that. [2:46:45, 2:46:56]: note I need a motion to end the second and excuse me end our meeting this evening. So move. Is there a second? Ms. Ms. again second that from Alzheimer's Ms. Gan Onfair please indicate. [2:46:56, 2:47:00]: So you now say goodnight, ladies and gentlemen. We're done. God bless you all.