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    --- title: Planning Commission date: 2024-11-21 source: 2024-11-21_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:03]: Okay, we have four members present, which is a quorum. [0:00:04, 0:00:05]: Thank you, Madam Secretary. [0:00:07, 0:00:10]: We're now pre prepare for the invocation. Please. [0:00:11, 0:00:27]: Uh please get in your respected prayer positions. Um God, thank you for allowing us to come into this presence to work on behalf of our community. Thank you for allowing us to come and do the work we get to serve. Um and we ask you to bless our families, bless our communities, and let's continue to do the work for our community. Amen. [0:00:28, 0:00:33]: Thank you, Mr. Williams. Let us stand for the pledge, please. [0:00:38, 0:00:50]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. [0:00:55, 0:00:55]: Thank you. [0:01:01, 0:01:12]: Board, you have before you an agenda for tonight's meeting. I'd like to call your attention to a few changes on the agenda before we adopt. [0:01:16, 0:01:18]: Item number [0:01:19, 0:01:21]: Six [0:01:23, 0:01:30]: Item number seven and item number eight has been withdrawn indefinitely. [0:01:33, 0:01:35]: Way off. [0:01:37, 0:01:40]: I've been defer before it for thirty days. [0:01:43, 0:01:44]: Um [0:01:45, 0:01:55]: You'll you'll need to the board will need to vote on the the deferral cases, but the two withdrawal cases are only numbers um [0:01:56, 0:01:58]: Numbers six and seven. [0:02:00, 0:02:02]: Thank you, Madam Secretary. [0:02:06, 0:02:08]: So I need a motion from the [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: Okay, also two [0:02:13, 0:02:19]: Defer a case ten, eleven and twelve for thirty days, please. [0:02:20, 0:02:26]: Chair. Yes, sir. I'll make a motion to defer cases ten, eleven, twelve until the December meeting. [0:02:27, 0:02:42]: Mr. Chairman, I'll second that. It's been moved and second, moved by Mr. Williams and second by Mr. Planchon. Excuse me, Chairman. Um you really need to read the cases into the record first so that the record shows which cases are being deferred. [0:02:43, 0:02:46]: All right, thank you so much, Madam Secretary. [0:02:50, 0:03:10]: Item number 10 is an annexation case AX 2024-02. It's a consideration of an act annexation request using 100% access annexation method to annex two parcels at 1778 and 1872. [0:03:10, 0:03:23]: Highway 42 North from unincorporated Henry County into the Stockbridge city limits to allow for this construction of a mixed residential development. [0:03:24, 0:03:28]: Which will contain both single family detached homes. [0:03:29, 0:03:49]: The owner is Rowan Properties LP. Applicant is Meritage Homes, Kev Clay Kirkland. Agent is Haley Todd PEC. The property is located in landlord 35 in District 7 and contains 48.59 acres. [0:03:49, 0:03:50]: Yeah. [0:03:51, 0:04:02]: Item eleven is the comprehensive plan amendment KCP twenty twenty four-zero nine for property to be located in Council District Five. [0:04:03, 0:04:23]: It's a consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment case request to assign the future land use designation to medium density residential to two parcels at 1778 and 1842 Highway North, Highway 42 North. [0:04:23, 0:04:24]: Yeah. [0:04:24, 0:04:44]: After their annexation into the city of Stockbridge from unincorporated Henry County to allow for the construction of a mixed-use residential development, which would contain both single family detached homes and town homes. Again, the owners rowing properties LP. [0:04:44, 0:05:02]: The applicant Meritage Homes care of Clay Kirkley. The agent is Haley Todd PEC. The property is located in Landlot 35 in District 7 and it contains 48.59 acres, more or less. [0:05:04, 0:05:14]: Item twelve is a rezoning case, RZ 2024-10 for property to be located in Council District 5. [0:05:15, 0:05:23]: So consideration of a rezoning request to assign the zoning district of PUD Plan Unit Development. [0:05:24, 0:05:32]: and the PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District to two parcels at seventeen seventy eight [0:05:32, 0:05:35]: In eighteen seventy two, Highway forty two North. [0:05:36, 0:05:51]: After their annexation into the city of Stockbridge from unincorporated Heron County to allow for the construction of a mixed residential development which will contain both single-family detached homes and town homes. [0:05:52, 0:06:10]: Again, the owner's Royan Properties, LP, the applicant is Meredith Holmes, Care of Clay Kirkley, the agent is Todd Hadley. Hadley Todd, PEC. The property is located in Landlord thirty five District Seven and it contains forty eight point five nine acres more or less. [0:06:13, 0:06:21]: I need em I've had a a motion already and a second. I need to see a a vote f it's been moved in second. Okay. [0:06:22, 0:06:24]: All in favor, let it be known by a show of hands. [0:06:27, 0:06:28]: Yep. The motion passes. [0:06:37, 0:06:41]: Madam Secretary, are we clear now? Are we good? Thank you. [0:06:42, 0:06:53]: Well also do you have other cases to be deferred and you'll need to I'm sorry, I can't hear you. You have other cases to to be deferred need to be read into the record and a vote taken. [0:06:53, 0:06:56]: And then I'll after that I need to adopt the agenda. [0:06:59, 0:07:01]: Would you mind repeating that, Luna? [0:07:04, 0:07:11]: So we have other cases um in which the applicant is requested uh deferral. Um [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: You mean item number nine? [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: See. [0:07:20, 0:07:30]: The item on for Rock Rock Quarry Road. That's correct. Item number nine for Rock Quarry Road. You'll read that into the record and then take a vote on that. [0:07:31, 0:07:40]: Thank you. Item nine is a comprehensive plan amendment case CP twenty twenty four dash ten to be located in council district three. [0:07:41, 0:07:55]: Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment for parcel zero three two dash zero one zero three zero zero one two on the west side of Rock Quarry Road across from hospital drive. [0:07:56, 0:08:00]: For the purpose of changing the property's land use designation. [0:08:01, 0:08:03]: From high density residential [0:08:03, 0:08:05]: To low density mix use. [0:08:06, 0:08:08]: To allow for the development of [0:08:08, 0:08:10]: Of the convenience store and gas station. [0:08:11, 0:08:14]: Applicant GMI two [0:08:14, 0:08:15]: Ink. [0:08:15, 0:08:21]: Agent is Harold Buckler Junior Esquire of the Law Firm of Wilson, Brock and Irby. [0:08:22, 0:08:31]: The property is located in landlot 13 of District 6, and it contains 4.26 acres more or less. [0:08:34, 0:08:37]: I need a motion please to defer this case. [0:08:38, 0:08:48]: Chairman. Yes, sir. I make a motion to defer and definitely comprehensive plan amendment case CP dash twenty twenty four dash ten, item number nine. [0:08:49, 0:08:50]: Is there a second? [0:08:51, 0:08:53]: Mr. Chair, would I second? [0:08:53, 0:09:01]: So moved and second. Moved by Mr. Williams, second by Mr. Mitten. That we defer case. [0:09:04, 0:09:10]: CP twenty twenty-four-ten indefinitely. All in favor, let it be known by the show of hands. [0:09:11, 0:09:14]: Aye. Any opposed? The eyes have it. [0:09:16, 0:09:18]: Cases for it. Thank you. [0:09:29, 0:09:29]: Okay. [0:09:46, 0:09:51]: Now I need a motion from the commission to approve the agenda, the modified agenda. [0:09:52, 0:09:56]: Mr. Chairman Dave Plancheton, I'd like to make a motion we approve the agenda for this evening. [0:09:57, 0:09:58]: Is there a second? [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: Mr. Chairman, I second. [0:10:02, 0:10:07]: been moved by Mr Planchon and second by Mr. Mitten that we approve the amended agenda. [0:10:08, 0:10:10]: All in favor, let it be known by a show of hands. [0:10:11, 0:10:11]: I [0:10:13, 0:10:14]: In a pulse. [0:10:18, 0:10:20]: Nice have it. [0:10:20, 0:10:22]: Their gender is adopted. [0:10:24, 0:10:27]: You have before you the minutes of [0:10:28, 0:10:30]: From our October seventeenth meeting. [0:10:31, 0:10:40]: You've not already done so, I would ask you to take a moment to peruse the minutes, make any necessary correction if there be any. [0:10:48, 0:10:51]: Hearing none, I need a motion for approval, please. [0:10:55, 0:11:01]: Mr. Chairman, Anthony Mitten makes a motion to approve the minutes from the October seventeenth meeting. [0:11:01, 0:11:05]: Is there a second? Mr. Chairman Dave Planchon seconds. [0:11:05, 0:11:08]: Been moved by Mr. Mitten, seconded by Mr. Planchon. [0:11:09, 0:11:12]: That we approve the minutes of the October seventeenth. [0:11:13, 0:11:16]: Plan a commission meeting. All in favor, let it be known by a show of hands. [0:11:17, 0:11:18]: Okay. [0:11:18, 0:11:19]: In our poles. [0:11:21, 0:11:23]: Eyes have it. The minister approved. [0:11:30, 0:11:35]: I'd like to welcome all of you to the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission meeting. [0:11:37, 0:11:40]: There are a few protocols that I need to make you aware of. [0:11:40, 0:11:42]: Before we start the meeting. [0:11:43, 0:11:44]: This is the public hearing. [0:11:45, 0:11:49]: Please l please listen closely on how tonight's meeting will be conducted. [0:11:52, 0:11:56]: I ask that you keep your comments and presentations on a professional level. [0:11:57, 0:12:01]: Dealing with facts that are important for this комісію to make its decision. [0:12:03, 0:12:11]: We will not accept comments that are considered by the chair to be a personal attack on an individual or in group of individuals. [0:12:12, 0:12:16]: W you will receive a warning from the chair if you deviate from this requirement. [0:12:18, 0:12:25]: A second deviation will result in you to leave the meeting and the premises for the evening. [0:12:27, 0:12:31]: I ask that you refrain from applause or comments from the audience. [0:12:33, 0:12:35]: Only one person will be talking at a time. [0:12:37, 0:12:43]: And all comments will be made at the podium after the speaker has been recognized by the chair. [0:12:45, 0:12:52]: Please direct all comments to the chair and the commission, not to the audience or the staff. [0:12:55, 0:12:57]: Please do not applaud or react to speakers. [0:13:00, 0:13:07]: Speak from the audience, cheer, or carry on the conversation with others in the audience. [0:13:08, 0:13:11]: Or disrupt the order of this meeting in any way. [0:13:15, 0:13:22]: Be aware that these hearings are not a debate or an opportun opportunity to ask questions. [0:13:23, 0:13:26]: which must be answered by any individual tonight. [0:13:26, 0:13:32]: But a merely an opportunity to opportunity to present information to the commission. [0:13:34, 0:13:38]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. [0:13:40, 0:13:44]: The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time as rebuttal. [0:13:45, 0:13:47]: I may speak next and last replied. [0:13:48, 0:13:53]: And may use the entire ten minutes allotted for pro side of the application. [0:13:55, 0:14:00]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak longer than five minutes. [0:14:03, 0:14:04]: If you have a cell phone. [0:14:05, 0:14:09]: or other electronic device. I ask that you either power them off [0:14:09, 0:14:11]: Or put them in asylum mode. [0:14:14, 0:14:17]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight, [0:14:18, 0:14:23]: Please fill out a speaker's form, which is available on the table up front. [0:14:23, 0:14:27]: And hand it to the staff emer before approaching the podium. [0:14:31, 0:14:33]: After each item or case is called [0:14:34, 0:14:42]: We will hear next from the city staff and then we will hear from the applicant or their representative. [0:14:42, 0:14:44]: about what their plans are for the property. [0:14:46, 0:14:50]: along with any other relevant in information which they wish to present. [0:14:53, 0:14:58]: The commission members will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote on a project. [0:15:00, 0:15:02]: Follerin' the applicant. [0:15:02, 0:15:06]: Anyone who wishes to speak for or against the project [0:15:06, 0:15:11]: or just to ask questions will have an opportunity to do so. [0:15:13, 0:15:16]: Each side is restricted to a maximum of ten minutes. [0:15:17, 0:15:21]: or time may be waived at the discretion of the presiding officer. [0:15:23, 0:15:27]: If questions are raised, we may ask the applicant to speak again. [0:15:30, 0:15:33]: Afterward we will call for a motion in a second. [0:15:34, 0:15:43]: Have the necessary discussion and if a matter is not tabled, we will vote to recommend the pro approval or denial of the application. [0:15:45, 0:15:47]: This commission is only a recommending body. [0:15:48, 0:15:54]: The item will be heard by the mayor and council, whether we approve or recommend it now. [0:15:55, 0:16:01]: Understate our table. The items will be heard by the mayor and city council at their meeting on [0:16:05, 0:16:07]: December fourteenth. [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: And the items will be voted upon at that meeting. [0:16:19, 0:16:21]: The first three items [0:16:22, 0:16:25]: Taying to the properties on Brush Creek Court. [0:16:27, 0:16:32]: They include a comprehensive plan amendment K C P twenty twenty four dash oh three. [0:16:34, 0:16:38]: A resoning case R Z twenty twenty four dash O three. [0:16:40, 0:16:44]: And a zoning modification case, ZM twenty twenty four dash zero one. [0:16:46, 0:16:57]: I will read all three cases into the record. After that, we will have a combined presentation from the staff and a combined public hearing for all three cases. [0:16:57, 0:17:00]: Then we will vote on each case separately. [0:17:05, 0:17:12]: For the comprehensive plan amendment case, CP twenty twenty-four-zero three for property located in Council District Two. [0:17:13, 0:17:32]: Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request to change the future land use designation of parcel S07-010-060-20 on the east side of Brush Creek Court. [0:17:33, 0:17:37]: from its current land use designation of low density mixed use [0:17:38, 0:17:40]: To medium density residential. [0:17:41, 0:17:43]: to allow for a town home development. [0:17:44, 0:17:56]: The applicant is Pivotal Enterprise LLC, Care of Battle Law PC. The property is located in Land Lot 59, District 12, and it contains 2.28 acres, more or less. [0:17:58, 0:18:05]: The resulting case RZ 2024-03 for property located in Council District 2. [0:18:06, 0:18:26]: Consideration of rezoning requests to rezone parcels S zero seven dash zero one zero dash zero six zero dash zero zero on the east side of Brush Brush Creek Court from C two General Commercial to MFR which is multifamily residential. [0:18:27, 0:18:41]: To allow for a town home development. The applicant is pivotal enterprises LLC, Kevin Battle Law PC. The property is located in Land Line 59, District 12, and it contains 2.28 acres more or less. [0:18:44, 0:18:48]: The zoning modification case ZM twenty twenty four-one. [0:18:49, 0:18:52]: Again for property located in Council District Two. [0:18:54, 0:18:58]: Consideration of a major zoning modification request. [0:18:59, 0:19:05]: For parcel S zero seven A zero one one zero zero zero zero zero. [0:19:07, 0:19:09]: On the west side of Brush Creek Court. [0:19:11, 0:19:13]: То проває форжис. [0:19:14, 0:19:16]: to a previously approved site plan. [0:19:17, 0:19:26]: Which was the subject of mo zoning modifications case ZM twenty twenty two dash zero one in the year of twenty twenty two. [0:19:27, 0:19:30]: By allowing the expansion of the site boundaries. [0:19:31, 0:19:33]: To include parcel [0:19:34, 0:19:45]: Number S zero seven dash zero one zero dash zero six zero dash zero zero on the east side of Brush Creek Commons. [0:19:45, 0:19:50]: which would be developed as phase two of existing town home development. [0:19:52, 0:19:56]: Again the applicant is pivotal enterprises LLC cannot care about a law. [0:19:57, 0:20:01]: PC, the property is located in landline fifty-nine, district twelve. [0:20:02, 0:20:06]: And it contains two point two eight acres more or less. [0:20:09, 0:20:10]: Mr. Linton, please. [0:20:11, 0:20:22]: Thank you, Chairman Dumas. Uh my name is Gordon Linton, senior planner for the city of Stockbridge, and I'm here to present the combined presentations for Brush Creek Commons Townhouse Townhouse. [0:20:26, 0:20:46]: This is the uh case for comprehensive plan CP twenty four oh three. As mentioned, the applicant is seeking a comprehensive plan amendment for parcel S zero seven dash zero one zero six thousand to change the land use designation from low density mixed use to medium density residential for the purpose of constructing [0:20:46, 0:21:06]: 20 townhomes and combined in phase one and phase two together on 2.28 acres. As mentioned, the applicant and owner is Pivotal Enterprise. The purse parcel is S0781111110, previously known as S0781811. [0:21:06, 0:21:26]: Which is prior to the creation of the 41 townhome lots. The number of acres for phase one of the parcel is 15.74 acres, of which the five point five five point four five nine acres lies within the floodplain. And phase two has [0:21:26, 0:21:32]: two point two eight acres combined their eighteen point zero eighteen point zero two acres. [0:21:35, 0:21:46]: The vi as far as the environmental conditions, phase one is very level and the floodplains and the wetlands are present at the rear property near Brus Creek. The townhome construction is underway. [0:21:46, 0:22:02]: As far as phase two, the parcel is very level, wooded and vacant, and the property access via a thirty foot access eastment of North Harry Boulevard to Brush Creek Cork. And as mentioned, the address is Brush Creek Cork, which is located off North Harry Boulevard. [0:22:06, 0:22:26]: The current zoning for phase one is MFR and phase two is C two. The surrounding zoning to the north is MHR and SR. To the south is C two, MFR, which is multifamily residential, and SR which is suburban residential. To the east is SR suburban residential. [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: And to the west is C3 and C2 districts. The feature land use designation for phase one is medium density residential. Phase two is a low density mixed use. The surrounding land use is to the north, you have two mobile home parks and metal range subdivision. To the south, you have commercial uses, which are quick. [0:22:46, 0:22:59]: trip and waffle house and in addition you also have an apartment community. To the east you have the Meadow Ridge subdivision and individual single family residences. And to the west you have commercial uses. [0:23:02, 0:23:13]: This map, which is shown here, is what phase one and phase two combine. And this is where my laser is. This is the com combined parcel. [0:23:23, 0:23:41]: This is the feature land use map for breast recommons phase one and phase two. The current land use of the property shows low density mixed use and is currently zone C two. And as mentioned, the applicant is seeking this change so that both properties will re reflect the equal land use. So this is phase one, which is shown with the pointer. [0:23:43, 0:23:45]: In the orange. And this is phase two. [0:23:47, 0:23:47]: Again, so [0:23:57, 0:24:01]: Overall, staff recommends approval for this comprehensive plan amendment. [0:24:09, 0:24:12]: The next presentation is for R Z twenty four oh three. [0:24:15, 0:24:35]: The purpose, as mentioned, is to rezone parcel S zero seven dash zero one zero six thousand on the east side of Rust Street Commons from C two to MFR to allow for a twenty unit time home development on two point two eight acres. In addition, the applicant also seeks to combine parcel S zero seven dash zero one zero zero. [0:24:35, 0:24:43]: Years 6000, phase two, with phase one, Brest Creek Court, which is currently under construction, which comprises of 41 townhomes. [0:24:46, 0:25:06]: The zoning history. The original the property was rezoned on July fourth, twenty July fourteenth, two thousand three, via RC three dash zero four from R two to RM two. The original developer installed brush three court but did not construct any buildings. The development agreement plus two amendments. The rezoning included a development agreement. [0:25:06, 0:25:26]: Agreement followed by two amendments, which included various development conditions and required certain amenities to be included within the development. The zoning modification case, which was ZM22-01, was approved by the Planning Commission on October 27, 2022, then was approved by the [0:25:26, 0:25:42]: approved by City Council on september fourteenth, twenty twenty two. The approved ordinance states that ZM twenty twenty two dash zero one represented a modification of the terms of RC three zero four to allow the applicant to make certain changes to the site plan and to the amenities. [0:25:50, 0:25:52]: And this is a brief synopsis of the zoning history. [0:26:05, 0:26:10]: And this is the surrounding land surrounded zoning land use, which was mentioned earlier. [0:26:18, 0:26:20]: And this is the boundary survey. [0:26:22, 0:26:30]: Which so which shows parcel one, the phase one, which is shown with the pointer, and lay and phase two, which is shown with a pointer. [0:26:40, 0:26:42]: This is the vicinity zoning map. [0:26:48, 0:26:55]: The goal in the subject which is the subject property zone MFR to the red is C three, orange is MHR. [0:26:57, 0:27:05]: The medium pink, which is C2, and the yellow, which is SR. And this is phase one, and this is phase two. [0:27:11, 0:27:18]: And this is the zoning map of the parcels. As mentioned, um phase one is MFR and phase two is C two. [0:27:25, 0:27:26]: This is the aerial photo of the site. [0:27:31, 0:27:34]: This is phase one and this is phase two. [0:27:44, 0:27:47]: And this is the boundary survey which shows the water and sewer lines. [0:27:56, 0:27:59]: And this is the boundary survey showing the storm sewers. [0:28:09, 0:28:17]: And this is phase one. This is the map. This is the proposed siphon, which shows the combined parcels together. This is phase one. [0:28:20, 0:28:26]: Which is currently under construction, which is currently underway. And this is phase two, which is what they're trying to add. [0:28:36, 0:28:40]: And this is a rendering of the proposed townhome development. [0:28:51, 0:29:11]: And this is the staff recommendations with approval and conditions. The following conditions sh shall apply to phase two abrusy commons. A phase two shall be developed in general conformity with the phase two site plans submitted to the planet stopbridge, planning and zoning staff Assember September [0:29:10, 0:29:17]: twenty twenty four and shall adhere to all City of Stockbridge MFR ordinance requirements. [0:29:18, 0:29:35]: Except if there is a conflict between the MFR requirements and the conditions set forth in the development agreement as amended from time to time, the conditions set forth in the development agreement shall control. The maximum building height shall be forty feet. [0:29:36, 0:29:56]: B. Maximum building height shall be forty feet. C. All townhouses shall have a mixture of front facade consisting of covered entryway, porches, bay windows, and our balconies. Garages shall be incentived with variations of design porticos. D. The old [0:29:56, 0:30:16]: Owners shall submit elevations of buildings to be approved by the city. E. Each unit elevation per building shall be separate and distinct from the other and shall include variations in roof lines which may be accomplished with the use of dormers, gables, and/or fireplaces. F. Each unit [0:30:16, 0:30:36]: Each unit shall have different bricks, stucco, and masonry theme from the other attached units. G, owner shall install streets trees along all streets to be placed between the sidewalk and the front property lines, have a minimum two and a half inch caliber, shall have a minimum. [0:30:36, 0:30:56]: 24 foot planting area and shall be spaced and average of 45 feet apart. The owner shall provide a list of a list of them trees to be provided and subject to modification by the city. A street H a streetscaping plan shall be submitted to the city of Stockbridge planning as [0:30:55, 0:31:06]: zoning staff for comments and approved by the city to include sidewalks, street trees, landscaping, street lighting, and street. [0:31:11, 0:31:12]: Street furniture. [0:31:13, 0:31:33]: I any floodplain alterations to be supported by a certified engineer at the plan review stage? J. The applicant shall submit to the city clerk and city attorney an updated description and plat certified by engineer or surveyor licensed in the state of Georgia of the property. Kind of [0:31:33, 0:31:37]: The maximum units per building shall be no more than six units [0:31:37, 0:31:38]: Per building. [0:31:39, 0:31:46]: L, the minimum distance between buildings shall be twenty feet. M, the minimum front yard setback shall be twenty feet. [0:31:48, 0:32:08]: And the minimum side yard setback shall be fifteen feet. O the minimum rear yard setback shall be twenty feet. And P the declaration of restrictive covenants for phase one shall be amended and modified to incorporate phase two, and the units in phase two shall have all of their same rights and privileges. [0:32:08, 0:32:12]: [1939.7, 1945.0]: The next case is zoning the zoning modification for ZM twenty four dash zero one. [0:32:29, 0:32:46]: The purpose of the zoning modification is to allow the expansion and combination of phase one and phase two. Phase one wants to incorporate the the future homeers of phase two into the HOA to allow the usage of the amenities and to reduce the HOA costs. [0:32:48, 0:32:50]: And this is a brief synopsis. [0:32:54, 0:33:14]: This is the boundary survey of phase one and phase two. A third amendment is required for the Brush Creek Commons phase one. It will need to be drafted by the city attorney. The purpose of the amendment will consist of the followings: Allow the inspection of the boundaries of the previously approved development for Brush Creek Commons to include parcel number S07. [0:33:14, 0:33:34]: To allow the increase in the number of townhome lots and units from the previously approved maximum units of 41 units to 61 units to accommodate 20 more townhome lots and units to be constructed on parcel number S07D. [0:33:34, 0:33:54]: Dash zero one zero zero six thousand. Three, to allow the approval of a new overall site plan to include a design for parcel S zero seven dash zero one zero zero six thousand. Four to allow the amenities which were previously approved for the phase one site plan to be used by the residents of the phase two site. [0:33:54, 0:34:10]: site and five to allow the HOA which serves the phase one site to also serve the phase two site. And six, to provide the exemptions for phase two site so that it will not be required to have its own separate amenities in HOA. [0:34:13, 0:34:17]: And this is the site data for the brush street comments. [0:34:26, 0:34:40]: And this is the list of approving zoning conditions per exhibit C from rezoning ordinance number zero thirteen fifty two um july fourteenth for the rezoning case for RZ0, which was originated from Henry County. [0:34:49, 0:35:09]: Uh let me read these to the record as well. Um the comprehensive plan amendment, the rezoning of parcel S07-0106000 for the proposal amendment of phase two shall not be approved unless comprehensive plan amendment case number RZ twenty-four oh three is first approved. The zoning [0:35:09, 0:35:29]: Modification Parcel S07-0106000 shall not be designated as phase two of the Brush Creek Commons Town Home Development and shall not be combined with parcel S07A0100 phase one until the zoning modification CM [0:35:29, 0:35:49]: twenty four zero one is approved. Three, compliance with original rezoning development agreement and amendments. If zoning modification case ZM twenty four-one is allowed is approved to allow phase two to be combined with phase one in an overall [0:35:49, 0:36:09]: Development for brush free commons, then the developer shall a comply with the requirements of the approved rezoning case RZ03-04 via rezoning RZ03152 development agreement. The first amendment to the development agreement, which was dated December 13th. [0:36:09, 0:36:11]: [2172.3, 2192.3]: And the Second Amendment to the development agreement dated August 13, 2007, with the exception of other conditions that are listed below. B phase two should have the same setbacks, building design, materials, and two gar garages as phase one. C to submit the city clerk and city attorney an updated [0:36:32, 0:36:52]: Legal description and plat certified by the engineer or surveyor license in the state of Georgia of the property and D amend the Declaration of Restrictive Covenants for phase one to incorporate phase two to state that the townhome units in phase two shall have all the same rights and privileges to use the common area. [0:36:52, 0:36:55]: and amenities that are located within phase one. [0:36:57, 0:36:58]: And that concludes the presentation. [0:37:00, 0:37:01]: Thank you, Lord. [0:37:02, 0:37:04]: Any questions from the commission, please? [0:37:06, 0:37:10]: Yes, Mr. Chairman, I have one question. [0:37:14, 0:37:16]: Going back to [0:37:17, 0:37:28]: Sorry, you gotta find it here. Going back to CP twenty twenty-four-zero three, page forty-seven, which is the last page. [0:37:32, 0:37:52]: This also applies to ZM twenty twenty four-04, page 44. These both state the same thing. Uh under Section E, applicant's tentative site plan, the applicant should not has not submitted a clean proposed new site plan showing the amenities which he plans to provide. Directly under both of those, staff recommendation is approval with conditions. [0:37:52, 0:38:11]: The applicants shall prepare a clean final site plan by using the previously approved plat. And then number two is the planning and zoning staff shall review the accuracy of the new site plan. So are we gonna ask to vote on a new site plan that's gonna be per provided to the city at a later date? [0:38:12, 0:38:32]: Mr. Benton, uh if you were reading the last page, that's part of the appendix material. About half of the report is appendix, which is um derived from the previous um zoning modification case two years ago, t ZM twenty twenty-two oh one. So what you're looking [0:38:32, 0:38:33]: Looking at if it's in [0:38:33, 0:38:43]: purple on the last page, that's uh that is um appendix. So it's not for this case tonight. It's just uh reference material. [0:38:43, 0:38:48]: Okay, understood. Thank you. Thank you for the correction. No further questions. [0:38:48, 0:38:49]: Any other questions? [0:38:49, 0:38:51]: Sure, I have some questions. Go right ahead. [0:38:52, 0:39:03]: Um, so I I know we're also approv I guess would say we're approving the connection of phase one and phase two. What's what's the hindrance between that with the wetland? Is that a issue at all? [0:39:11, 0:39:12]: Would the applicant like to speak? [0:39:13, 0:39:18]: Uh Ms. Lynn, I'll actually allow the I'll allow the applicant to speak and then I'll come back to my questions. [0:39:19, 0:39:27]: If there are no other questions from the commission, thank you, Gordon. Uh and I would ask the applicant, Miss Battle, would you come forward please and make your presentation? [0:39:34, 0:39:54]: Good evening everyone. Michelle Battle with Battle Law 3562, Habersham at North Lake, Tucker, Georgia, 30084. I'm gonna try not to be overly redundant with what staff has said. They gave a very detailed report. I think what I really wanna emphasize here is that we've got an amazing opportunity with this project. [0:39:54, 0:40:14]: That has started out back in 2003 and still trying to get completed. My client has proceeded with all of the infrastructure for phase one of the project for 41 beautiful townhome units that they are in the process of developing and had this additional. [0:40:14, 0:40:34]: Tract of land, which is shown by the star, that they wanted to add to the overall project. This phase one and phase two combined will allow for a total of 61 units to be located on the site. They will share all of the same amenity. [0:40:34, 0:40:54]: Areas. In fact, this should help lessen some of the burden on the 61, sorry, the original 41 homeowners because they will now have more people to share the costs for the maintenance and upkeep of those amenity areas. When we look at [0:40:54, 0:41:14]: The land use and the zoning plan, you can see that to the rear of the site, we are located in the MFR zoning district, with C2 being what the current property that's before us now is. [0:41:14, 0:41:34]: is currently zoned. It only kind of makes sense for us to add this into that rear parcel, the MFR, because there's not too many businesses that would be able to locate on this site without one being somewhat disruptive to the adjacent townhome. [0:41:34, 0:41:54]: Home community, but additionally, not many that would be able to function on a parcel zone C2 that far off of the public right-of-way. You already have the Waffle House and other improvements along that corridor. So it really makes sense to add this piece into that MFR and create some additional units. [0:41:54, 0:42:00]: that quite honestly can be used in the city um as the city continues to grow and develop. [0:42:01, 0:42:21]: So um once again we are taking um what is the existing Brush Creek phase one where there is um a significant amount of wetlands and streams along the back end of the uh of the project. Um we are not um interfering with that. Our piece is in the front, um and again we will just [0:42:21, 0:42:41]: Be adding that acreage into the existing acreage for phase one and combining the two and then platting out the additional 20 units, which is what is being proposed. This is the overall site plan, and this does show both phases combined together. [0:42:41, 0:43:01]: Kind of what you were alluding to, Councilmember Minton, or Commissioner Minton, that we are now providing a plan that shows the initial phase one, the 15.74 acres that is currently zone MFR, and then adding in the additional 20 units into phase two and showing how those [0:43:01, 0:43:21]: To integrate together. Most of the amenity area is along Brush Creek as you're coming into the community. There are a few open space areas to the rear of phase one, but the mass majority lies right here up front. And I'm going to kind of emphasize that. [0:43:20, 0:43:40]: Where you've got the monument sign coming in. Um the original development agreement and zoning from 2003 required the gazebo and the school bus waiting area. Um there's the sports field area and playground that's located right here near the entrance, which will be directly across. [0:43:40, 0:44:00]: Um from phase two. Really, one of the big distinctions between phase one and phase two is that phase one has rear entry um uh townhome units where we've got the private drive to the uh the rear, and um that allowed for um closer up on the [0:44:00, 0:44:20]: The units in terms of having uh no cars entering from the front off of that piece. Unfortunately for us, phase two really is not large enough to allow for that rear entry type product. So we are doing a front entry type product on the front on phase uh two. [0:44:20, 0:44:40]: Of the site. We do have the parking area. And let me, I think I can continue to emphasize that there. We've got some guest parking that's located here in the front. And again, the green space areas will be incorporated into the other common area. [0:44:40, 0:45:00]: That exists through phase one to add this additional 2.28 acres. And this is an idea of the facade design that we are looking for, kind of showing the two-car uh pad in front with the two-car garage. These are three-story units, which um [0:45:00, 0:45:20]: Again, it is a nice addition in the city of Stockbridge. We know that a lot of the developers that are coming in with the townhome type units are doing two-story product, kind of the traditional look of mixture of textures. This is, I think, a welcome addition into, I hope it's seen as a welcome addition. [0:45:20, 0:45:40]: Welcome addition into the City of Stockbridge, something a little bit more contemporary, hopefully something that will be very attractive to young folks, folks in the millennial and Gen Z area. It's got a little bit more trendy feel and look to it than maybe some of the other traditional. [0:45:40, 0:45:42]: [2743.9, 2763.9]: So that is the overall project. I'm going to go back to the um the data page where we've got both phases. Um we know that these units that we are proposing will be roughly um starting at about 450,000 and up. Um and we again anticipate that um [0:46:03, 0:46:23]: This would be underway sometime next year. We've already been putting in the infrastructure is in for Brush Creek Court now, and we're gonna be seeing some units coming out of the ground soon, and we would be looking to get phase two up and running uh quickly so that [0:46:23, 0:46:38]: That, you know, hopefully in maybe a year or so, um, this time two twenty I guess it's twenty twenty six, um, we would hope that we would have most of these units on the ground and sold. So with that, I'm here to answer any other questions that you may have. [0:46:39, 0:46:45]: Mr Williams, you may proceed, sir. Thank you, Chair. Um you basically kinda answered my question in your uh [0:46:47, 0:46:51]: project, but I did want to ask one thing. [0:46:52, 0:47:00]: Is this brick is side is any side of it brick at all? Um I'm gonna ask my client. [0:47:01, 0:47:02]: Freaking stuck up. [0:47:02, 0:47:03]: Brick and stucco. [0:47:04, 0:47:09]: Okay, so how many sides is brick? Three sides brick. Perfect. Okay. [0:47:11, 0:47:11]: All right. [0:47:14, 0:47:18]: Any other questions from the commission? Mr. Chairman, I have a question. [0:47:21, 0:47:41]: Go right in there. Okay. Um, go back to your your m the map you just showed. I do not see any parking spaces for the amenities area, as well as I do not see any sidewalks where people will walk. So there it's hard to see here, but there is a sidewalk that's located and I believe we're required to have that sidewalk. Um [0:47:41, 0:48:01]: Along Brush Creek Court. There's sidewalks within the interior of our community. There are some guest parking spaces here. Now, I will tell you that the plan that was originally approved for phase one did not contain any parking spaces along Brush Creek Court. My assumption is that. [0:48:01, 0:48:21]: People will be encouraged to walk over there and not drive over there. But these parking spaces that are technically guest parking spaces will be available to anyone who lives within Brush Creek Commons. It wouldn't just be for the people in phase two because it's one holistic project. So to the extent I guess it's [0:48:21, 0:48:36]: Someone needed to park over there and go to the play areas they could. Um but this is not a huge community. There's really no reason to encourage people to drive. They need to walk. Okay. I I see the sidewalk now, thank you. [0:48:39, 0:48:41]: Mr. Maiden, any questions? [0:48:44, 0:48:46]: Thank you, Ms. Bell. Thank you. [0:48:52, 0:48:55]: We'll now open the floor for a public hearing. [0:48:56, 0:49:01]: If there's anyone present who would like to speak [0:49:02, 0:49:05]: Against approving this project. [0:49:07, 0:49:10]: W would you please make your way to the podium? [0:49:14, 0:49:21]: Hearing none, if there's anyone that wish to speak in favor of this proposed project. [0:49:24, 0:49:25]: Make your way to the party. [0:49:30, 0:49:33]: Hearing none, the public hearing is not closed. [0:49:45, 0:49:45]: [2987.4, 2988.5]: Now I will [0:49:55, 0:50:00]: Prepare to take a vote on the cases individually. [0:50:00, 0:50:06]: First, the comprehensive plan amendment case. I need a motion from the commission, please. [0:50:07, 0:50:14]: Go ahead, Mr. Mid. Mr. Chairman, I make the motion to approve comprehensive plan amendment case CP twenty twenty four-zero three. [0:50:15, 0:50:16]: Mr. Chairman, I'll second that. [0:50:17, 0:50:28]: It's been moved by Mr. Mitten and seconded by Mr. Plechan that we approve comprehensive plan amendment KCP twenty-four-03. All in favor, let it be known by a show of hands. [0:50:29, 0:50:29]: I [0:50:31, 0:50:37]: Any opposed? The ayes have it. The comprehensive plan amendment case is approved. [0:50:40, 0:50:45]: Next I need a motion for the resulting case R Z twenty twenty four dash zero three. [0:50:46, 0:50:47]: Cheer. [0:50:47, 0:50:53]: Yes, sir. I have a quick question about this real quick. Um, if we we just approved the comprehensive [0:50:54, 0:51:00]: Plan, but if we don't approve the rezoning, will it still count as a standalone development? [0:51:04, 0:51:05]: We [0:51:06, 0:51:08]: approving a recommendation to the council. [0:51:09, 0:51:13]: The council will make the final decision on what gets approved. [0:51:13, 0:51:14]: And what does not. [0:51:16, 0:51:18]: So I'll need a motion. [0:51:19, 0:51:20]: That wasn't my question, Chair. [0:51:22, 0:51:35]: That wasn't my question. Would you restate the question? Sure. My question was, um if the comprehensive plan is approved and the rezoning is not, will it still move forward as a standalone development? [0:51:35, 0:51:38]: It will move forward to council for approval. [0:51:40, 0:51:42]: Uh do y'all understand my question, staff?'Cause I clearly [0:51:45, 0:51:46]: What was the question? [0:51:48, 0:51:49]: Come closer. [0:51:50, 0:51:51]: You repeat the question? [0:51:51, 0:52:02]: Yeah. I said if the comprehensive plan amendment case is was if it's approved if it was approved and the rezoning was not, will it still continue as a standalone development? [0:52:05, 0:52:08]: Yes, it it will still proceed to the city council. [0:52:08, 0:52:15]: Okay, thank you. Chair, I make a motion to approve rezoning case R S D dash twenty twenty four dash oh three. [0:52:15, 0:52:16]: Mr. Arsaken, please. [0:52:19, 0:52:20]: Mr. Chairman, Mr. Mitton seconds. [0:52:21, 0:52:34]: removed by Mr Williams and second by Mr. Mitten that resonant case R Z twenty twenty four dash zero three is approved. Excuse me mr d Mr Dilmers we'd like to add a condition to that that [0:52:35, 0:52:37]: Three s that uh the units would be three sided brick. [0:52:38, 0:52:38]: As a condition. [0:52:43, 0:52:55]: Motion. Okay. Would you restate the motion, please? Sure. I make a motion that we approve rezoning case RZ-2024-03 with the recondition to have three sided brick. [0:52:56, 0:52:58]: And must admit in second. [0:53:00, 0:53:02]: All in favor let it be known by show of hands. [0:53:02, 0:53:03]: I like. [0:53:04, 0:53:08]: Any opposed, eyes have it. The rezoning case is approved. [0:53:10, 0:53:13]: Next excuse me, who was the who seconded the motion? [0:53:13, 0:53:14]: Mr. Mayton. [0:53:14, 0:53:15]: Thank you. [0:53:17, 0:53:24]: Next we'll do the resorting modification K Zm twenty twenty four dash zero one. I need a motion, please. [0:53:26, 0:53:32]: Mr. Chairman, yes sir. Make the motion to approve zoning modification KCM twenty twenty four dash zero one. [0:53:33, 0:53:34]: And I'll need a second. [0:53:36, 0:53:38]: Mr. Chairman Dave Planchet will second that. [0:53:38, 0:53:52]: Thank you. Mr. Minton has moved to approve rezoning case twenty twenty zero I'm sorry, ZM twenty twenty four zero one. Mr. Minton, second that motion. All in favor, let it be known by show of hand. Aye. Aye. [0:53:52, 0:53:57]: Mr. Chair, we just want to make sure they're being approved with staff's conditions. [0:53:58, 0:54:00]: That was read in the record. [0:54:02, 0:54:05]: Okay, with with that [0:54:06, 0:54:17]: So Mr. Chairman, then I'll withdraw and then I'll make the motion that we approve with staff conditions ZM twenty twenty four dash zero one. [0:54:17, 0:54:35]: And uh second please. I will still second it. Thank you. Mr. Minton has approved uh motion to approve zone and modification case ZM twenty twenty four dash zero one. What staff conditions, Mr. Flash on second that motion. All in favor, let it be known by the show of hands. [0:54:35, 0:54:42]: Aye. Aye. There's no opposition. It's unanimous. There's only modification case is approved. [0:54:52, 0:54:55]: The next two items [0:54:55, 0:55:00]: On tonight's agenda pertain to four properties on Davis Road. [0:55:02, 0:55:12]: They are comprehensive plan amendment case CP twenty twenty four-zero seven and rezoning case RZ 2024-08. [0:55:13, 0:55:16]: I will read both cases into the record. [0:55:18, 0:55:35]: After that we'll have combined presentation from the staff and a combined public hearing on both cases. And then we'll vote on each case separately. Comprehensive plan amendment KCP 2024-07 for property located in Council District 2. [0:55:37, 0:55:40]: Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request. [0:55:41, 0:55:45]: To change the future land use designations of four parcels. [0:55:45, 0:55:47]: On the south side of Davis Road. [0:55:48, 0:55:50]: As identified below. [0:55:51, 0:55:55]: From the current split future land use designations. [0:55:56, 0:55:58]: To low density mix use. [0:55:58, 0:56:00]: for the entire property. [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: For the purpose of allowing the construction [0:56:05, 0:56:08]: of a self storage warehouse development. [0:56:09, 0:56:11]: The property owner is B One Holmes. [0:56:12, 0:56:14]: Improvement LLC. [0:56:14, 0:56:16]: And the agents of Robert Nesbitt. [0:56:17, 0:56:18]: And Roger [0:56:18, 0:56:19]: Gautier. [0:56:21, 0:56:29]: The property is located in Land Lot 71, District 12, and it contains 6.895 acres more or less. [0:56:31, 0:56:51]: 649 Davis Road parcels number is S0508004000. Contains 3.6050 acres, more or less. Current feature land use designation low. [0:56:51, 0:56:56]: density residential and medium density mixed use. [0:56:58, 0:57:11]: Six fifty-seven Davis Roads parcel S05-080300 contains point six six acres more or less. [0:57:13, 0:57:17]: Current future land use designation is unassigned. [0:57:19, 0:57:26]: Six eighty one Davis Road, parcel S zero five dash zero eight, zero zero five, zero zero zero. [0:57:27, 0:57:31]: Contains one point three four acres, more or less. [0:57:31, 0:57:39]: Current future land use designation, low density residential, and medium density mixed use. [0:57:42, 0:57:51]: Parcel number S zero five dash zero eight zero zero six zero zero zero on Davis Road. [0:57:52, 0:57:56]: Contains one point two nine acres more or less. [0:57:57, 0:58:05]: The current land use designation is low density residential and medium density mixed use. [0:58:07, 0:58:13]: The rezoning case number R Z twenty twenty four dash zero eight. [0:58:14, 0:58:18]: Again for the same property located in council district two. [0:58:19, 0:58:23]: Consideration of a zoning request to rezone four parcels. [0:58:23, 0:58:25]: On the south side of Davis Road. [0:58:26, 0:58:33]: as are identified are identified below from suburban residential to office institutional. [0:58:35, 0:58:38]: Two I'm sorry. [0:58:40, 0:58:50]: We're going to rezone from suburban, residential and office institutional 2C3 heavy commercial. [0:58:51, 0:58:53]: For the purpose of allowing [0:58:53, 0:58:56]: The construction of a self storage warehouse development. [0:58:58, 0:59:04]: The property owner is B One Homes Improvement, LLC and the agent is Robert Nespit and Roger Gautier. [0:59:05, 0:59:14]: The property is located in landlot 71, District 12, and it contains 6.89 acres, more or less. [0:59:17, 0:59:33]: And I'll read the dimensions again for each parcel. Six fifty-nine Davis Row parcel S zero five-zero eight hundred four zero zero zero contains three point six zero five acres, more or less. [0:59:35, 0:59:45]: 659 Davis Road, parcel S5-0800-3000 contains.66 acres more or less. [0:59:47, 0:59:50]: Current zoning is serving suburban residential. [0:59:53, 1:00:07]: Six eighty-one Davis Road, parcels S05-0805-000 contains one point three four acres more or less, and the current zoning is suburban residential. [1:00:09, 1:00:21]: Parcel numbers S zero five dash zero eight zero zero six zero zero zero on Davis Row contains one point two nine acres more or less. [1:00:23, 1:00:27]: The current zoning is OI office institution. [1:00:30, 1:00:31]: Mr Linton, please. [1:00:32, 1:00:32]: Thank you, Chairman. [1:00:34, 1:00:42]: This is the presentation. This is the combined presentations for RC twenty-four-zero eight and CP twenty-four-zero seven. [1:00:45, 1:01:03]: These are the case facts. The applicant, as mentioned, is B-1 Home Improvement LLC. The owner is Beatrice Arroyo of B-1 Home Improvement LLC. The agents are Mr. Robert Nesmith and Roger Scultier, who are present tonight. The address of the property is 649 Davis Road. [1:01:04, 1:01:12]: Six five seven Davis Road, six eighty one Davis Road, and parcel at zero five dash zero eight hundred five thousand. [1:01:13, 1:01:33]: And the other parcel, which is S05 800, 6000 on Davis Road. The number of acres is 6.895. And as far as the characteristics, the subject property is wooded with an existing house located on 681 Davis Road. The current future land use designation is medium density residential. [1:01:33, 1:01:50]: and low density mixed use. The current zoning of the property is SR, Suburban Residential, and OI, which is office institutional. The sign was posted on August twenty-second, twenty twenty four, and the letters were received from the applicants on October twenty second, twenty twenty four. [1:01:55, 1:01:56]: This is the vicinity map. [1:01:58, 1:02:01]: And these are the parcels which are highlighted in different colors. [1:02:02, 1:02:22]: This is in the yellow is S05-08006000. The other parcel is 681 Davis Road with the house. 649 Davis Road in the purple with S-05-8004,000. And 657 Davis Road, which is S058003,000. [1:02:22, 1:02:36]: You have Wildwood Estates, which is a subdivision. You have Piney Woods, which is also a subdivision, and you also have Stockbridge Estate, which is the mobile home. And you also have Walmart and you have the shopping center. [1:02:42, 1:02:44]: This is the aerial photo with the side plan. [1:02:53, 1:02:56]: And this is the survey that was that was submitted. [1:03:06, 1:03:10]: And this is the site visit w when we posted the sign on October twenty second, twenty twenty four. [1:03:16, 1:03:36]: And the zoning history of the property. 657 Davis Road was annexed into the city of Stockbridge on June 10, 2002, upon the request of Elveda Ainsworth, and was assigned to R3 city zoning at the time. 649 Davis Road was annexed into the city on November 10, 2003, upon the request of Elveda. [1:03:36, 1:03:56]: Ainsworth that was assigned to R3 City, I mean City Zoning District at the time. 681 Davis Road was annexed into the city of Stockbridge on November 10, 2003, upon the request of Elveda Ainsworth that was assigned to R3 zoning district. And the subject parcel S05-000. [1:03:56, 1:04:11]: eight hundred six thousand was rezoned from R three, which is residential to OI office institution upon the request of Thomas Starnes. The ten of the use was for construction an American Legion Post Headquarters building. [1:04:15, 1:04:35]: The development information. So B1 Home Improvement plans to develop a self-storage facility comprising eight units and two hundred and seventy four rental units, spanning six point eight five nine acres across four parcels on the south side of Davis Road. According to Chapter twelve of the Unified Development Code, the self-storage facility [1:04:35, 1:04:55]: Facilities is defined as fully enclosed facilities with independent base or self-contained units for the exclusive storage of self of goods or personal park property. Building one will contain cover forty hundred square feet with twenty-four units. Building two will be larger with eight four hundred square feet with forty-two units. [1:04:55, 1:05:15]: Building three, we've have 5,400 square feet with 27 units. And building four will be the most spacious, featuring 11,250 square feet and 50 units. Building 5 will include 4,300 square feet and 29 units. And building 6 will mirror building 3 with 5,400 square feet and 27 units. [1:05:15, 1:05:35]: Building seven will be one of the largest structures encompassing 10,800 square feet and 48 units, while building eight will again match building three and six, offering 5,400 square feet and 27 units. The project will feature a dedicated turning lane, a stormwater pond, and landscaping. [1:05:35, 1:05:35]: Yeah. [1:05:36, 1:05:50]: Post construction, eighteen wheelers will be prohibited on the property, and the security measures will include twenty four hour video surveillance, individual units alarms, access control systems, and perimeter security cameras. [1:05:53, 1:06:01]: And this is the side plan of the property. The ones in brown, that's that's the units. And as you can see, that's the turning lane here. [1:06:04, 1:06:06]: We're just showing with the uh laser point. [1:06:08, 1:06:13]: And they do have landscaping as well, which is shown in the green. And in the blue, you have the stormwater pond. [1:06:15, 1:06:17]: And they also have a seventy five foot wide buffer. [1:06:22, 1:06:25]: This is a layout that they submitted. [1:06:26, 1:06:28]: Which shows over off site. [1:06:35, 1:06:38]: This is the building el elevations that they submitted? [1:06:39, 1:06:41]: Which just shows it will be brick. [1:06:48, 1:06:54]: This is the proposed self storage warehouse, the development information that I read earlier. It's just a breakdown. [1:07:02, 1:07:15]: And this is the map of the existing and proposed self-storage facilities in the city. There are eight self-storage facilities that are located within the city limits of Southbridge, with six existing and two that are in the plan review process. [1:07:18, 1:07:25]: And the property is shown in the in the star. And as mentioned, the ones in red they these are existent. [1:07:32, 1:07:46]: This is a comparative analysis between the proposed self storage facility and the current self storage facilities that are located in the city limits. Overall, the proposed self storage facility is consistent with the self storage facilities that are in the city limits. [1:08:01, 1:08:05]: This is the presentation for the CP twenty four-zero eight. [1:08:08, 1:08:16]: Uh, the applicant's request as mentioned is to change the future land use designations from their current split future designations to low density mixed use. [1:08:18, 1:08:38]: Currently, the top portion of the parcels six hundred forty nine, six five seven, six eighty one, Davis Road, and parcel S zero five-eight hundred six thousand have a future land use designation of medium density residential, which is not compatible with the C three zoning district. Therefore, the applicant is requesting to change the future use. [1:08:38, 1:08:42]: land use designations from the current space used to low density mixed use. [1:08:45, 1:08:53]: And this is the s the comprehensive plan map along with the intent of the low density mixed use. [1:09:01, 1:09:09]: And as mentioned, the top portions of the site have a few feature land uses designation of medium density residential, which is shown with the pointer. [1:09:11, 1:09:17]: And the bottom portions have a future land use designation of low density mixed use, which is shown. [1:09:24, 1:09:26]: And this is a surrounding language designation. [1:09:28, 1:09:34]: The area is surrounded by medium density residential, low density mixed use, and medium density mixed use. [1:09:45, 1:09:46]: And this is a staff analysis? [1:09:52, 1:10:00]: It does meet the cooperative plan and these are the list of goals and policies that were featured in page forty two and forty four that they do meet. [1:10:08, 1:10:22]: The key points from the staff analysis is that the proposed self-storage aligns with the tent of the low density mixed use future land use destination, and that the site location is favorable due to its strategic proximity to both residential and commercial areas. [1:10:25, 1:10:27]: Therefore, staff recommends approval. [1:10:35, 1:10:38]: And this is the presentation for RC twenty four dash zero eight. [1:10:41, 1:10:50]: The applicant's request is to rezone the four parcels on the south side of Davis Road from SR and OI to C3 Heavy Commercial. [1:10:50, 1:11:01]: Currently the three parcels are zone SR and one parcel is zone OI. And so the applicant wants to re-zone all parcel to C three, which permits the self-storage facilities. [1:11:05, 1:11:08]: Oh this is the zoning map of the parcels, Sean? [1:11:11, 1:11:21]: The area is surrounded by C two, General Commercial, S R, Suburban Res Residential, and MHR, Mobile Home Residential and R R, Rural Residential. [1:11:28, 1:11:48]: And this is the surrounding land use and zoning. Property to the north you have SR, which is the Wildwood Estate subdivisions. Property to the south, which is Walmart, is zone C two. Property to the east is rural residential, which is sunny tree care and landscaping, along with the Stockbridge Estates, which is zone M H R. [1:11:48, 1:11:53]: Proper to the west is the Davis Pavilion Shopping Center, which is zone C two. [1:11:58, 1:12:00]: And this is the staff analysis. [1:12:03, 1:12:05]: It is consistent with the complaint. [1:12:09, 1:12:13]: And it also aligns with these stop raise zonic code. [1:12:15, 1:12:23]: And these are the list of objectives that the self-storage facility aligns with in section one point four of the stop bridge unified development code. [1:12:31, 1:12:51]: The key points from the staff analysis is that the proposed self-storage facility aligns with the intent of the low density mixed-use future land use designation. The proposed self-storage facility meets the purpose and intent of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code. The site is suitable for the proposed self-storage facility, and the proposed [1:12:51, 1:12:55]: Post self storage facility is expected to generate less traffic. [1:12:56, 1:13:16]: And staff recommends approval with the conditions. The site plan. The subject property shall be shall be developed similar to the site plan that was submitted to the applicant by the applicant on August 8, 2004. Buffers. The developer shall provide a 40-foot buffer along the eastern side of the property adjacent to the stop bridge at [1:13:16, 1:13:36]: State's mobile home, a 15-foot buffer along the western side adjacent to the Davis Pavilion Shopping Center, and a 15-foot buffer along the southern side adjacent to Walmart Shopping Center in accordance with section 3.234 of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code. [1:13:36, 1:13:56]: Architectural standards. Each building must have at least 50% of the exterior on all sides of all four facades constructed with brick, stone, or a combination of these materials. The number of units. The number of rental units shall be limited to a maximum of 247. [1:13:56, 1:14:12]: seven. Flock cameras shall be installed at the entrance of a facility. Street lights shall be installed along the perimeter of the property. Ingress and egress must be provided by the fire marshal for all the buildings, and the self storage facility must be enclosed with a gate. [1:14:16, 1:14:18]: And that concludes the presentation. [1:14:19, 1:14:22]: Thank you, Gordon. Any questions please from the commission? [1:14:25, 1:14:27]: I have a [1:14:27, 1:14:30]: Mr Chairman, I have a question. Go right ahead, sir. [1:14:30, 1:14:36]: Why C three heavy commercial instead of C two? I mean Walmart is C two. [1:14:37, 1:14:42]: So C so C three permits the self storage re units while C two does not. [1:14:44, 1:14:53]: Say that again, permits what? So C three permits the uh self-storage facilities as opposed to C two, which does not. Okay. Thank you. [1:14:56, 1:14:59]: You have questions? Okay. [1:15:01, 1:15:08]: No further questions. I would like the applicant to speak if they wish to. Thank you, Gordon. [1:15:08, 1:15:09]: Okay, cool. [1:15:16, 1:15:18]: Let's see. [1:15:23, 1:15:24]: Yeah. [1:15:27, 1:15:47]: Thank you. Thank you. Good evening. I'd like to say thank you to this commission and we appreciate the opportunity to present to you today. My name is Bob Nesbitt, and I'm here on behalf of B1 Home Improvement, and we're here in regards to the storage facility. A few points I'd like to bring out about storage facilities. [1:15:47, 1:16:07]: Facilities is that one, it's convenient for residents. Many residents need extra storage for personal belongings, seasonal items, or vehicles, especially in areas with smaller homes and apartments. A local storage facility provides secure and easily accessible. [1:16:07, 1:16:09]: [4570.8, 4590.8]: Another point is that property values are increased in most cases. Modern storage facilities are often designed to blend into neighborhoods and, if well maintained, can even improve nearby property aesthetics. This can benefit property values, especially if the facilities replace a vacant and underutilized property. [1:16:30, 1:16:50]: Which we have in this particular case. Their economic benefits. Storage facilities create local jobs for construction, management, and maintenance. They also contribute to the local community and the local economy through property taxes, supporting nearby businesses, and attracting customers. Clutter. [1:16:50, 1:17:10]: Keep our neighborhoods, our areas clean. Having access to a nearby storage facility encourages decluttering in residential properties which are in close proximity, which can make neighborhoods appear tidier and more organized. The impact on traffic, low impact on traffic and noise. [1:17:10, 1:17:30]: Unlike other commercial developments, storage facilities generate minimal traffic since customers usually visit occasionally. They operate quietly, making less disruptive noises and unwanted activity than other businesses. Enhanced security. [1:17:30, 1:17:34]: This storage facility will have a state of the art security system. [1:17:35, 1:17:55]: Storage facilities are typically well lit and include security features like surveillance cameras and gated access. This can improve the overall security in the neighborhood. Environmental considerations. Modern storage facilities are designed with sustainability in mind using energy efficient. [1:17:55, 1:18:10]: building materials and technologies and some even include green spaces which we have and landscaping improvements because we feel that to beautify the area is important and we want to uplift this community and be a good corporate citizen. [1:18:10, 1:18:30]: Support for small businesses. Local entrepreneurs and small businesses often use storage units as effective cost saving spaces for inventory, supplies, equipment, and enabling economic growth in the community. And last but not least, adaptive use of land or of unused land. [1:18:30, 1:18:50]: If the proposed site is currently vacant or dilapidated, which it is, developing a storage facility can transform it into a functional and aesthetically pleasing part of the neighborhood. So we we just want to do something that we feel is a need. We've investigated and spoke with many people and small business owners in the community. [1:18:50, 1:18:58]: They've informed us that the storage units approximately every six month to a year are increasing the rates, supply and demand. [1:18:59, 1:19:00]: The less the supply. [1:19:01, 1:19:16]: The greater the demand, then the cost tends to increase. By bringing a storage facility into this area, it can moderate the pricing, it can uplift the community, and it can be a benefit aesthetically to make this a more convenient and uh livable neighborhood. [1:19:18, 1:19:38]: Uh I do want to point out that when we look at our slides here, this is what you've seen earlier. This is the site plan. This is the aerial photo, which we've highlighted in yellow, shows the area where we will be building the storage facility. Right behind us, directly behind us is Walmart. And over, I believe, to the west is the [1:19:38, 1:19:47]: strip mall. So this will fit in perfectly to support the businesses that go in and out of these areas as well as the homes that are in the surrounding area. [1:19:49, 1:20:00]: This is another shot showing it from the viewpoint of the neighborhood that is across the street, but you can clearly see the commercial activity that's going on to the west and the Walmart that is directly behind it. [1:20:02, 1:20:14]: This is the plan that shows exactly how it sits on the ground with the aesthetics that we have there with the beautification and the shrubbery that we're gonna have there in the front, the landscaping. [1:20:14, 1:20:23]: And this is a picture of what the proposed landscaping will look like with beautiful trees that will help to provide uh aesthetics to the area. [1:20:25, 1:20:28]: This is a picture of what some of the storage units will look like. [1:20:31, 1:20:40]: Then this is another view. And here this is a nice young lady that's bringing in and out her goods that she would use to in order to declutter a home. [1:20:43, 1:20:45]: This is the elevation. [1:20:46, 1:21:06]: And these are the benefits that I spoke of earlier: convenience for residents, increased property values, economic benefits, reduced clutter, low impact to traffic and noise, state of the art and enhanced security, environmentally friendly, support for small businesses, and adaptive use of unused land. [1:21:06, 1:21:08]: Yeah. [1:21:08, 1:21:11]: I'll be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you. [1:21:12, 1:21:25]: Mr. William, go ahead, sir. Thank you, Chair. Um, I have a few questions, or really a few concerns as well. Um I know you said you s you did speak to some of the commercial areas and some of the community. [1:21:26, 1:21:46]: But I did not see or you did not at least elaborate to us were they in favor for it or they did they say anything like about that with you? And then when you asked that as well, I also wanted to ask to this question a traffic study? Because you know, it's not really more so you coming in and out of the actual storage unit, but more so the [1:21:46, 1:22:06]: uh um heavy machinery and trucks and the increase of traffic on that street specifically? I appreciate those questions. Very good. Yes, we did speak with people and it was favorable. They were asking for more storage facilities because help that will help one with the pricing and two, most of those storage facilities are being used 100%. [1:22:06, 1:22:26]: So very few vacancies. So that is a needed opportunity for homeowners, especially small business people that want to store equipment and things of that nature that's ongoing in the area. And two, in regards to traffic, as it was stated earlier, we are prohibiting any 18-wheelers or large vehicles from coming in and out of that facility. [1:22:26, 1:22:46]: Two, we will operate from the hours of 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., which is basically as close as we could get from dusk to dawn. And three, we will have state-of-the-art security. But in terms of traffic, it will basically be homeowners or small business people that will be bringing equipment or items from [1:22:45, 1:22:50]: from their home in and out as opposed to industrial or large commercial vehicles. [1:22:51, 1:23:11]: Okay. Um thank you for that. Also um I I really the one main plus that I see for this is job creation, which is really what we need to see in the area. Um but I I can really tell you, I I know for a fact numerous studies just tell you that storage units also are often bringing down the property value in their [1:23:11, 1:23:31]: that area and you're going right across from a neighborhood, right across the street, and then one right beside you. Um, I d I don't know how appealing that would be one for our future homeowners and then our current homeowners, um, because that's not an increase in their property value, it's really a decrease, especially because we already have that Walmart and that commercial [1:23:31, 1:23:38]: Area. But I will say honestly, that really the last question I'll have for you were was. [1:23:41, 1:23:43]: No, you answered it. We're good. [1:23:43, 1:23:44]: Thank you. [1:23:44, 1:23:45]: Thank you. [1:23:46, 1:23:47]: Mr Mitton. [1:23:48, 1:23:51]: District two, have you any thoughts? [1:23:52, 1:24:12]: Mr. Chairman, I have a question. Um, I see there's no uh management residence on the property. Is that correct? That is correct. And but there will be an office, like you said, man seven from seven to seven. That is correct. There will be video surveillance that we will have around the clock 24 hours, but someone will be manning from seven to seven. [1:24:12, 1:24:25]: and those are the hours for egress and ingress. And for a new client coming in, is there an office that they can go and and register or request or is it all excuse me, is it all done online? Everything will be done virtually or digitally. Okay. [1:24:27, 1:24:27]: Thank you. [1:24:31, 1:24:51]: I have one more question, Chair. Go ahead, sir. Uh I I know if Gordon can come back to the screen for me. Sorry, excuse me. Um thank you. Um I wanna look at the map that you have up that shows the current uh storage units in that area. And I think it was current and future. [1:24:51, 1:24:53]: I'm gonna see if I have it. [1:24:57, 1:24:57]: Yes. [1:25:04, 1:25:10]: Okay. So I see two other existing storage units. Are those current or future? [1:25:15, 1:25:20]: So this one is located on [1:25:23, 1:25:29]: Five forty four hundred North Harry Boulevard. No, actually five three three four North Harry Boulevard. [1:25:31, 1:25:32]: We're just right here. [1:25:33, 1:25:38]: Is that's the um secure life storage? That's the s life storage place. And then what about the one across from it? Right. Yeah. [1:25:39, 1:25:41]: So that one is in um [1:25:41, 1:26:01]: Process. Um that was that was in Pan Review process. Okay. Only reason I asked is because looking at the map, the one the second one you just pointed at and the one that we're talking about now, it it looks a little almost walking distance to from one another. So do you know that proximity from one another? [1:26:01, 1:26:02]: Another. [1:26:03, 1:26:08]: No uh not at this time. Okay, that's a concern for me. Okay, thank you. [1:26:18, 1:26:21]: Any more questions from the Commission? [1:26:22, 1:26:23]: No? [1:26:24, 1:26:26]: Thank you. [1:26:33, 1:26:38]: This is a public hearing, so we'll open the floor for [1:26:39, 1:26:42]: Anyone who wishes to speak in favor or against [1:26:44, 1:26:46]: Hearing non public hearing is not closed. [1:27:00, 1:27:02]: I need a motion, please. [1:27:03, 1:27:09]: For comprehensive plan amendment case CP twenty twenty four dash oh seven. [1:27:13, 1:27:13]: Cheer. [1:27:14, 1:27:19]: Yes, sir. I make a motion to deny comprehensive plan amendment C P dash twenty twenty four dash oh seven. [1:27:21, 1:27:22]: Is there a second? [1:27:27, 1:27:30]: Hearing none, the motion fails. [1:27:30, 1:27:40]: For lack of a second. Mr. Chairman Dave Planchon, I'd like to make make a motion we approve comprehensive plan amendment CP twenty four twenty four oh seven. [1:27:41, 1:27:50]: Mr. Planchon has moved to approve comprehensive plan case CP twenty twenty four dash oh seven. Is there a second? [1:27:50, 1:27:51]: Mr. Chairman, I second. [1:27:52, 1:27:58]: It's been moved by Mr. Planchon and seconded by Mr. Minton. All in favor, let it be known by show of hands. [1:27:59, 1:28:00]: Bye. [1:28:01, 1:28:02]: In our polls. [1:28:03, 1:28:06]: Mr Plechon, Mr. Mitten vote. [1:28:07, 1:28:08]: In favor of approval? [1:28:09, 1:28:10]: Mr [1:28:10, 1:28:11]: Williams votes. [1:28:12, 1:28:14]: To oppose, the motion passes. [1:28:17, 1:28:19]: Two one. Thank you. [1:28:23, 1:28:29]: Now I need a motion for rezoning case RZ twenty twenty four dash zero eight. [1:28:30, 1:28:37]: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to approve with staff conditions, rezoning case RZ two zero two four-zero eight. [1:28:39, 1:28:41]: Mr. Chairman Dave Planchan Seconds. [1:28:41, 1:28:49]: Mr. Minton has m moved to approve rezoning case RZ twenty twenty-four-zero eight with conditions. [1:28:49, 1:28:53]: Mr. Planchon, second that motion. [1:28:53, 1:28:54]: All in favour? [1:28:55, 1:28:57]: Let it be known by a show of hands. Aye. Aye. [1:28:59, 1:29:00]: In your polls. [1:29:01, 1:29:14]: Mr. Planchon, Mr. Mitten votes yay in favor of the resulting case. Mr. Williams votes nay to oppose. The motion passes. Thank you. [1:29:34, 1:29:35]: Project updates. [1:29:40, 1:29:41]: Staff comments. [1:29:46, 1:29:47]: Do we have any? [1:29:48, 1:29:49]: Mr. Anderson? [1:29:54, 1:30:00]: You just uh not at this time, Chairman. Thank you. Thank you, sir. [1:30:06, 1:30:08]: Any comments from the board? [1:30:09, 1:30:17]: Chair, I have a question next. Yes, sir. Um at our last meeting, I inquired um on one of the uh [1:30:17, 1:30:33]: Items we approved, which was I believe the gas station. Um I wanted to know what was if staff was able to get that number of how many the city had in total and then how many the county gas stations were brought, I inquired about during the last meeting. [1:30:33, 1:30:41]: Uh the item was deferred, so it didn't move forward at City Council was deferred. Um we can get that information to you. Okay, thank you. [1:30:44, 1:30:46]: Any other comments from the board? [1:30:51, 1:30:56]: I would just make one comment. I'd like to take the opportunity to wish all of you [1:30:56, 1:30:57]: Well, happen scooving. [1:30:59, 1:31:02]: I ask that you stay safe and I pray that you be blessed. [1:31:04, 1:31:06]: Staff comments, Mr. Chairman? [1:31:07, 1:31:27]: Um just letting the board know that we're pre we're we've prepared a new schedule for next year. It's a draft for the council's approval on December ninth. Also, um some of this board's uh members' um terms are expiring and so [1:31:28, 1:31:31]: That will have to be acted on my code. [1:31:31, 1:31:37]: That that doesn't need to be made public about the term expirations. We will let them know via mail. [1:31:44, 1:31:45]: Any other comments? [1:31:53, 1:31:54]: Motion to adjourn. [1:31:55, 1:31:55]: Okay. [1:31:56, 1:32:01]: Mr. Chairman, I make the motion a second. [1:32:04, 1:32:09]: Hi, hi. My feet make it good night. [1:32:18, 1:32:20]: Yeah. Have a good night.
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    --- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2024-11-19 source: 2024-11-19_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:02:32, 0:02:41]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna get the meeting started and do have a quorum here tonight. So I'd like to call our council work session uh Tuesday [0:02:41, 0:02:43]: November nineteenth to order. [0:02:43, 0:02:44]: And actually I [0:02:45, 0:03:05]: Thank you. If you bow your heads, as we conduct this last meeting before Thanksgiving, today is the perfect opportunity to say how much we have so much to be thankful for. We thank God for having his covering hand over the city of Stockbridge and for the abundance of joy and overflow that he has. [0:03:05, 0:03:07]: Provided for the city. [0:03:07, 0:03:10]: He's provided safety and security for the city. [0:03:10, 0:03:13]: He's provided guides and guidance and wisdom. [0:03:13, 0:03:33]: And he's provided so much joy in the year of 2024 that we have so much to be thankful for. But that's just the beginning. That's so much more, and so many more blessings in stow as we move forward with so much to be thankful for. Let's be thankful for our families. Let's be thankful for every citizen. [0:03:33, 0:03:46]: And in our community and the surrounding communities and pray for their abundance and overflow and excess in their lives, so that we can make sure that no one is left behind as we move the community forward. Amen. [0:03:47, 0:04:03]: Amen. All right. Pledge allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic of which it stands, one nation, under God, and the liberty and justice for all. Madam Clerk, rule calls. [0:04:04, 0:04:18]: Good evening everyone. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Temberry. Let the record reflect Mayor Pro Temberry is not in attendance. Councilmember Alexander. Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. [0:04:19, 0:04:32]: Let the record reflect Councilmember Gantt is not in attendance. Councilmember Thomas. Mayor Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Councilman Alexander, sir. I need a amendment to the to the agenda for this evening, please. [0:04:32, 0:04:43]: Yes, sir, Mayor, I'd like the motion to amend the agenda to defer item number four, Text Amendment case TX two zero two four four four four four four zero six to be heard at a later date to be determined. [0:04:44, 0:04:45]: Is there a second event motion? [0:04:47, 0:04:51]: Is there a second to the motion? Oh Mr. Mr. Thomas Second. All I'm fair, please indicate. [0:04:53, 0:04:54]: Okay. [0:04:56, 0:05:01]: Oh yes ma'am. I'll abstain. I don't know why it's being deferred. [0:05:01, 0:05:07]: It's being deferred but based on legal advice is my understanding. Um Mr. um [0:05:08, 0:05:11]: Ms. Gardner, you want to address that, please, further? [0:05:17, 0:05:25]: Yes, the legal department um has some comments on it before we bring it to you, we'd rather address some of the comments we got from the legal department. I'm sorry. [0:05:25, 0:05:43]: Sorry. My apologies. Um, legal counsel had some comments and so we want to review and address those comments before we bring it before you. So that's why we're asking for it to to for continuance so that we could address those new comments we got and bring it back. Okay. Thank you. [0:05:44, 0:05:54]: Now m what uh Mr. Alexander you you made a motion. Mr. Tom yes sir. Before you uh complete the motion, I just had a question. Um [0:05:55, 0:06:05]: Ms. Garner? Will that information come to the council based on your research or statement? Will it come before the council before the meeting? [0:06:05, 0:06:12]: So we have an opportunity to see and understand what you just indicated that you needed to do. [0:06:13, 0:06:14]: As to the reason why it's being [0:06:15, 0:06:15]: Defer. [0:06:16, 0:06:18]: So you want to see legal comments on [0:06:18, 0:06:26]: Well, I mean in in order for us to be able to vote on it when it do come back and I think um and I won't speak for uh Councilwoman Barber, but [0:06:26, 0:06:28]: There's a reason why. [0:06:28, 0:06:31]: And I just want to know what would it impact? [0:06:31, 0:06:41]: our decision based on that and if it if it does not then I do understand. Okay. So uh it does not impact our decision based on the delay. Right. [0:06:41, 0:06:52]: So specific specifically what those legal commons legals have, I don't know specifics. So until we sit down with them, they just said that hey, we see some issues we wanna address with you guys on it. [0:06:52, 0:06:53]: And so [0:06:54, 0:06:59]: We'll highlight whatever those areas are so or have them write a memo so you'll know what those issues were. [0:07:00, 0:07:00]: Thank you. [0:07:00, 0:07:08]: Fair. Okay. Thank you, sir. All right. So Mr. Alexander, you made a motion. Mr. Thomas, you second that motion. Right. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:07:10, 0:07:10]: Mm. [0:07:14, 0:07:14]: I'm sorry, ma'am. [0:07:16, 0:07:17]: No, it's the same motion. [0:07:19, 0:07:33]: The motion it was m motion was made and seconded and uh Miss Barber had some questions about it, so I brought Mrs. Garden up to explain the question. So I just reiterate the motion was made and seconded. Okay. Okay, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. This will be a new motion. Why would it be a new motion? [0:07:34, 0:07:36]: Because I abstain on the first motion. [0:07:37, 0:07:37]: Well [0:07:40, 0:07:40]: All right. [0:07:43, 0:07:47]: Um any legal advice on that at all? Does it make a difference? [0:07:49, 0:07:51]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:07:53, 0:08:13]: Go ahead. I'll make a new motion to remove it from the agenda. Go right here, please. Uh I'll make a motion to amend the agenda to defer item number four, text amendment case TX two zero two four-zero six to be heard at a later date once the information from legal is deemed. [0:08:13, 0:08:14]: Mm. [0:08:15, 0:08:16]: Gives you a second emotion. [0:08:16, 0:08:19]: I second. Okay, Mr. Thomas, second that motion. [0:08:19, 0:08:20]: Is there any further discussion? [0:08:21, 0:08:22]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:08:23, 0:08:29]: It's a unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. Now I need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. So move. Is there a second? [0:08:29, 0:08:31]: I take it. Mr. Cant Sexton, all favor please indicate. [0:08:33, 0:08:47]: Nam is it an ambush? Okay. All right. So please review the minutes, uh review the council meeting minutes for November twelfth. We'll be able to uh approve those minutes at our next uh meeting. And Madam Proke, do we have any public comments at all? [0:08:49, 0:09:09]: All right, so unfinished business. Council consideration approved proposed right-of-way abandonment of um 10,040 square foot or two point uh excuse me.23 acre right-of-way rendement of old Atlanta Road between Clifford Court and North Henry Boulevard. And uh Mr. Gardner, are you presenting? [0:09:09, 0:09:10]: [554.0, 557.2]: Oh Miss Aaron's present. All right, Miss Aaron. [0:09:33, 0:09:33]: Ivni. [0:09:35, 0:09:36]: Good evening, everybody. Evening. [0:09:42, 0:09:43]: Didn't it? [0:09:58, 0:10:09]: Yes, miss uh the the client, the participant is requesting that the city abandon this portion of a right-of-way of Davis Road. [0:10:10, 0:10:12]: Due to the uh I mean say [0:10:13, 0:10:26]: Old Atlanta Road due to G Dot reconfiguring the intersection of Davis Road and North Henry Boulevard. So this would leave this road just abandoned and also it would bisect this property. [0:10:26, 0:10:34]: Uh you'll have it running down the middle of the property, you have a an abandoned road bed that will no longer be used and no longer be traveled by. [0:10:35, 0:10:43]: And I think that they're trying to incorporate it into the property so that it's a whole parcel instead of it being bisected by an abandoned roadway. [0:10:50, 0:10:53]: So let me move to the next slide. Next slide. [0:10:54, 0:10:56]: So this is let me [0:11:01, 0:11:17]: If you can see that, this is the site plan where it shows where the the roadway will be abandoned and incorporated into the property. And then I think they're proposing a project there as well once the property is made whole. [0:11:23, 0:11:38]: And so the total site is four point oh one acres. The building footprint is twenty nine thousand three hundred and fifty square feet. They're proposing to build a storage facility there with twenty one parking spaces and one eighty eight parking space. [0:11:41, 0:12:01]: So the zone in track one and three are zone C three, track two is zone C one, PMU, partway misuse, overlay district. Easements, there are various uh easements for sewer line construction and maintenance, but it will not impact the city or the Henry County Water Authority ability to access their UTC. [0:12:01, 0:12:03]: [727.6, 743.5]: So this road improvement that GDOT is doing on Highway 42 and at that intersection includes new sidewalks, a deceleration lane, and curb and gutter. And also on this project you'll have two stormwater management facility ponds to support this facility. [0:12:26, 0:12:28]: Are there any questions? [0:12:29, 0:12:32]: I do. Go ahead, sir. Ryan, come to the podium. [0:12:39, 0:12:59]: We talked about this and I think my congestion conjecture with this is that these two parcels being combined into one usurps the highway overlay corridor plan, which pr prohibits storage facilities from being located along North Henry Boulevard. When you combine them into one [0:12:59, 0:13:19]: One, the effect when all of this is done is that there will be a storage facility with clear view from North Henry Boulevard and frontage. Now the staff made the decision to uh move this forward without bringing it to council and then made the decision to uh do uh to zone this. [0:13:19, 0:13:22]: [806.4, 826.4]: Because the one parcel that we're talking about that you're gonna use for the parking lot, that parking lot parcel is is in is in the highway corridor. The highway corridor prohibits storage facilities from being located along North Henry Boulevard. When you combine you're allowing them to use this as a parking lot for [0:13:46, 0:13:47]: Well the storage facility. [0:13:48, 0:14:02]: When in effect that's what is going on here. You will be they will be able to use this frontage uh as the parking lot using that right away abandonment that we are proposed that you are proposing to move through this area. [0:14:03, 0:14:15]: So the staff did not zone this property. This property has been zoned C three prior to any of us being here. I mean the one right at the interstate, right at North Henry Boulevard, is in the highway corridor. [0:14:15, 0:14:23]: So no, I'm I'm trying to correct the record because it was said that the staff zoned the property without bringing it forward to council and that is not [0:14:23, 0:14:26]: A correct statement. Staff did not zone this property. [0:14:26, 0:14:35]: This property has been, it's a legacy zoning, has been zoned like most properties along that corridor, either C1, C2, C three, [0:14:35, 0:14:38]: high industrial or low industrial along that corridor. [0:14:39, 0:14:39]: Right. [0:14:39, 0:14:47]: Um so the city the staff did not arbitrarily zone this property. The property has already been zoned, I think as the staff it showed. [0:14:48, 0:14:53]: Part of this property, the old roadbed, the dear oxing to abandon, is the area right through here. [0:14:53, 0:14:56]: If you can see it on your on your screens. [0:14:56, 0:15:04]: Right, the dissects their property. So there's a piece of their property that's here. Mr. Gardner. Can you see it on your screen in there? [0:15:04, 0:15:08]: Can you see my cursor? It's not showing up on the big map. Can you see it on here? No. [0:15:10, 0:15:15]: Okay. So if you if you're looking at the plan, you will see a dark line [0:15:15, 0:15:20]: With little two arrows next to it, where their main drive is coming off of Old Atlanta Road. [0:15:21, 0:15:26]: That all a lana road goes through their property where you see those dark lines. [0:15:26, 0:15:29]: And goes into North Henry Boulevard. [0:15:29, 0:15:33]: So there's a piece of their property right here that's [0:15:33, 0:15:39]: Um, on one side of the Old Orlanta Road and then there's the major portion of it that's actually on [0:15:40, 0:15:41]: Um [0:15:41, 0:16:00]: off of the other side of Old Order Road that's gonna be abandoned. So it dissects their property right on the edge on the northern, on the eastern, western side of the property line, right here. Right. Um I'm not seeing that. Is there a way that you can show some type of arrow or something pointer so people understand what you're talking about? [0:16:01, 0:16:05]: No, I'm using the mouse, it doesn't show it. Um [0:16:05, 0:16:08]: So the best way to gauge it [0:16:08, 0:16:12]: Um Jesus. Without y'all being able to see, we don't have a pointer on here. [0:16:13, 0:16:16]: Hold on, let me do this. Let's take it out of this mode. [0:16:19, 0:16:27]: Can you see my mouse now? We can see the arrow now. Okay. So the road is being abandoned right next to Walmart, which is Davis Road. No, no, sir. No, sir. No, sir. [0:16:29, 0:16:33]: So the abandonment is this piece of property right here. [0:16:34, 0:16:35]: Right through here. [0:16:36, 0:16:39]: That's the old roadway right there where there are driveways coming out of. [0:16:40, 0:16:50]: GDOT is reconfiguring Old Atlanta Road so it doesn't come in at that funky angle. It comes in more at a ninety-degree angle, which is your typical road section. So that's where it's coming through here. [0:16:51, 0:16:55]: So their property technically does not actually front on [0:16:55, 0:17:02]: Well, the project doesn't front on or do have a driveway off of Eastern Lana Road, it has a driveway off of Old Atlanta Road. [0:17:03, 0:17:03]: Right. [0:17:04, 0:17:13]: So there's parcel number three that's a remnant piece of their property. When Old Atlanta Road was built, yeah well however long ago that was, it dissected their their property. [0:17:13, 0:17:26]: So the majority of the property is over here. There's another piece here just becoming because Davis Road is actually also being realigned in this process. So Davis Road currently goes in that configuration. [0:17:27, 0:17:28]: Red comes in straight down at angle. [0:17:29, 0:17:31]: The new alignment brings it and curves it. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: And gives it two. [0:17:32, 0:17:35]: Where you can go north or you can go straight across. [0:17:35, 0:17:44]: So that's the new alignment for the road, for Davis Road. So there are two roads being d being relocated or realigned on this as it relates to this parcel. [0:17:45, 0:17:48]: So they're reflecting a driveway off of Ola Lana Road. [0:17:48, 0:17:54]: and a driveway off of Davis Road directly across from the access into the Walmart shopping centre. [0:17:55, 0:17:56]: Now as it relates to [0:17:57, 0:18:03]: The overlay district, the overlay district only actually affects tract number two. [0:18:04, 0:18:07]: from the overlay district map. And correct me if I'm wrong. [0:18:08, 0:18:09]: It only affects track number two. [0:18:10, 0:18:12]: Which is this piece of property here is in the overlay. [0:18:13, 0:18:20]: Because this property already had frontage off of an old road, it was never seen as being along the corridor of [0:18:20, 0:18:23]: Highway forty two, that's why it wasn't designated. [0:18:23, 0:18:29]: as part of the overlay district because it didn't have any frontage on and there was a road separating it from [0:18:30, 0:18:31]: From the highway. [0:18:31, 0:18:34]: So that's the reason why it wasn't included in the overlay district. [0:18:35, 0:18:40]: So only a small portion of the property is actually in the overlay district, which is track number two. [0:18:41, 0:18:56]: Now the applicant, I guess, could decide whether or not they want to comply with some of the with the route regulations as it relates to, but the portion that they're proposing to put the storage facility on, proposed storage facility on is actually zone C three and it's outside of the overlay district. [0:18:58, 0:19:01]: They are reflecting ten foot sidewalks along their property boundaries. [0:19:02, 0:19:16]: Um pretty much along the exits there are no sidewalks existing on that side of the road as of today. So this will be the first segment. If if approved, this will be the first segment that'll start that ten foot sidewalk on the [0:19:16, 0:19:20]: north side of Davis Road. There's sidewalks on the south side of Davis Road on the [0:19:20, 0:19:22]: Walm outside, those are five feet. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: This would be ten feet on the opposite side. [0:19:30, 0:19:45]: I guess the confusion was again when they when they do open up and the road is actually widened, they it's going to accomplish the same task. But again, I guess it's on a technicality that it will have frontage on North Henry Boulevard. [0:19:51, 0:20:00]: Because the building will be actually if you look at the rendering that you're giving, man, it will be feet from North Henry Boulevard and so will the parking spaces. [0:20:01, 0:20:07]: on that side angle'cause it's it's fronted toward Davis Road, but look at the side of the building. [0:20:07, 0:20:18]: The parking lot is right literally right there bordering North the future North Henry Boulevard. So yes, they will have you'll be able to see them from North Henry Boulevard of Highway forty two. [0:20:19, 0:20:28]: they won't have an access off of Highway forty two, onto Highway forty two at all. Their access is coming off of Old Atlanta Road. But let me go through this exercise. [0:20:29, 0:20:31]: So this is what we're talking about right now. [0:20:32, 0:20:37]: So this road is now going to be a line. Old Atlanta Road is turning right here. [0:20:39, 0:20:48]: Actually turning there. It's no longer going down at this funky angle close to the intersection. Davis Road is going to be proposed to go similar to this angle here. [0:20:48, 0:20:50]: So those roads are being [0:20:51, 0:20:52]: Realign. [0:20:55, 0:21:03]: Right. And in the end of this, what's going to happen is what is proposed is that that section along Davis Road will be used for the parking lot. [0:21:04, 0:21:11]: So they have yes, two parking lots, they have a parking lot. So we right back in the highway corridor with a parking lot for the building. [0:21:12, 0:21:15]: So as it relates to the so I can show you all [0:21:52, 0:21:56]: So here's the property in question. This property here is in the PMU. [0:21:58, 0:22:00]: They're a remnant piece of property. [0:22:01, 0:22:05]: That's right there is not in the PMU. [0:22:06, 0:22:09]: Everything else in that area is in the PMU overlay district. [0:22:10, 0:22:12]: This is in the overlay PME district. [0:22:12, 0:22:16]: This is the piece where they're proposing the C three. It's not in the PMU. [0:22:18, 0:22:23]: Okay, so what you're saying pretty much is the abandonment is in that top section. [0:22:24, 0:22:44]: This is the bondament here. So the top section there is not uh in the parkway overlay. That is correct. But the future plans call for a parking lot along Davis Road for this business that is in the parkway court. So what there will be restrictions placed on the Davis Park Davis Road parcel. [0:22:43, 0:22:56]: Not allowing that because it's in the parkway corridor, sir. Or they ask have to ask for a variant. Sir, this piece of parcel here is their remnant parcel. As you can tell, there's no PMU requirements under that parcel. [0:22:56, 0:23:12]: I I'm talking about the I'm talking about the section that fronts Davis Road for future development. The one that fronts David Road Davis Road is in the parkway over Lake Hart. So what is planned for that? This parcel here, sir? No, no, the parcel that fronts Davis Road. [0:23:12, 0:23:15]: Davis Road. That piece right there. Crack two. [0:23:15, 0:23:16]: That track too. [0:23:16, 0:23:21]: Right there, track two obviously has nothing in it. There's nothing there. It's a vacant track of property. [0:23:21, 0:23:41]: Right. So what I won't don't want to happen is for us to uh abandon this land and then for them to at some point put another parking lot right there which will give frontage which will basically bring it all the way up to Davis Road and then North Henry Boulevard, which is in the parkway corridor. Right. [0:23:41, 0:23:57]: So according to staff, they cannot put a parking lot on track number three. That's not allowed to put a a parking lot on track number three. Now they could fit a Dave and Buster's ice cream shop on that piece of property. As you can tell, that property is high is triangular shaped. [0:23:57, 0:24:00]: And you see the building footprint of that building. [0:24:00, 0:24:03]: Of that property right there makes it almost [0:24:03, 0:24:04]: Almost unusable. [0:24:05, 0:24:23]: Now, I say Dave and Buster's cause you know Daven Buster's ice cream is a little small, a little two sharks. So it's it's not it's not a track that that's a highly buildable track, but can it be? Yeah. If you're gonna build something small like that, you probably could fit it on there. [0:24:24, 0:24:30]: Um, but in essence, whatever gets built in there would have to conform with the requirements of the PMU. [0:24:34, 0:24:42]: Do you understand? You understand what I'm saying? Which is not allowing the parking lot to be put. Not allowing a parking lot to be put there. Yes, sir. [0:24:44, 0:24:53]: So as you can tell from this plan that they that they have here, all their parking is located um close to the building up here and here and as [0:24:53, 0:24:57]: Most folks know in storage facility they don't have a lot of parking per se. [0:24:57, 0:24:58]: Um [0:24:59, 0:25:07]: And my understanding of this is it's highly in it's all interior. It's not your typical old section um [0:25:07, 0:25:11]: storage facility. But like I said, as it relates to the two acres [0:25:11, 0:25:31]: That that's uh literally just under an acre of property when you consider it. Nothing can get built over here because there's no buildable area here. The buildable area that they have is what you see in that dotted line right here is considered their buildable area. Yeah, th that's what I'm saying. See, I don't wanna get to the few point where [0:25:31, 0:25:51]: The building is expanded into this area or the parking lot is expanded into the area. That is not I think that should be the conditions. So that building can't go in that area. They cannot. Right, that's what I'm saying. I think that's a good idea. [0:25:51, 0:26:11]: toward North Enry Boulevard and they cannot put a parking lot there, which is expand the parking lot for the existing building. It would be it would need to be another, it would need to be, as you suggested, another business there on this particular low low point. Your current code, your PMU, [0:26:11, 0:26:14]: [1575.5, 1588.7]: a storage facility in there so they cannot expand into that area. It restricts a standalone parking in that area so they can't do it. Okay. Um so you could put a condition, but you're conditioning what's already prohibited under the code. [0:26:29, 0:26:34]: But that's fine. Um and this is not a rezoning, so I d you can't put a conditional zoning on it. [0:26:34, 0:26:38]: 'cause it's not a rezoning. It's just the abandonment portion. [0:26:39, 0:26:59]: Say again that track is not even part of the project, it's just reference on the survey. Right, but it's actually still in the PMU. It's it's owned by that track, I think, is still coming by again. I just want to make sure that there's no there's no uh anything else that's been planned for this area. They're not expanding on expanding the building or the parts. [0:26:59, 0:27:03]: parking lot in this area. If that is the case, then that's pretty much all we can do. [0:27:04, 0:27:07]: Your your current code, your PMU restricts them. [0:27:07, 0:27:12]: moving in that direction that you just explained. They cannot expand into area number two. [0:27:13, 0:27:15]: They can't do that's just yeah, I get it. [0:27:16, 0:27:20]: It they cannot expand in that area because that's covered by the PMU, it's restricted. [0:27:21, 0:27:41]: Um, if they wanted to stay anywhere within track one to do any expansion, that's totally permitted because it's outside and it's zone C two, C three, as long as they can meet the parking requirements as required by the zoning district, that's it. They can only move within the footprint of that buildable area, which you currently see in the dotted line right here through here. [0:27:42, 0:27:43]: And through here. [0:27:43, 0:27:54]: That's the buildable area. They can move to shift the building back and forth in that area all they want, but they cannot go outside of that area without coming before you for a variance. Yeah, it's it's pretty clear that this was pretty smart. [0:27:55, 0:28:05]: I mean you beat you're gonna have a storage building in along North Henry Boulevard because you thought before you thought outside the box and beat us to the punch. [0:28:06, 0:28:07]: Any other questions at all? [0:28:09, 0:28:12]: This is my district. [0:28:13, 0:28:29]: Okay. So Michelle was what I asked was for additional information be sent to me. It wasn't sent to me. We didn't get any additional information. Additional information was not sent to me by staff. That is what the directive was. Ma'am, we didn't get any additional information. [0:28:29, 0:28:41]: only responded to Councilman Alexander just like you're discussing with him right now. He was asking I am responsible for the people who live in this district. [0:28:41, 0:28:43]: I have asked for over a month. [0:28:44, 0:28:47]: Since Miss Battle called me more than a month ago. [0:28:48, 0:28:51]: I asked specifically about this information. [0:28:51, 0:28:53]: What I don't like is being blindsided. [0:28:54, 0:28:58]: What I've asked is that staff provide routine updates. [0:28:58, 0:29:03]: regarding anything that's going on in city council district four. [0:29:03, 0:29:10]: I don't like coming to these meetings and having other council members speaking to my district. [0:29:10, 0:29:13]: about information I should be provided. [0:29:15, 0:29:20]: I don't wanna be provided information by a council person who's only shared what he wants me to know. [0:29:24, 0:29:26]: I cannot support this. [0:29:26, 0:29:29]: I won't support it, it's based on principle. [0:29:29, 0:29:40]: I understand the whole abandonment idea. The city doesn't have any use for this particular piece of parcel. I get it, but it's about principle. [0:29:40, 0:29:45]: I'm not going to allow no one on this council to disrespect me. [0:29:45, 0:29:47]: Я намна конала стаф. [0:29:47, 0:29:49]: To disrespect me either. [0:29:50, 0:29:52]: I've sent a n I've sent [0:29:52, 0:29:53]: Two. [0:29:54, 0:29:54]: Emails. [0:29:55, 0:30:00]: I've gotten couple of calls or contacts from Miss Battle. [0:30:00, 0:30:01]: And still nothing. [0:30:03, 0:30:04]: This storage facility. [0:30:05, 0:30:08]: Із рай і недол' резиденціл. [0:30:09, 0:30:16]: There's commercial on the other side, but those residents deserve to know what's happening in their district. [0:30:17, 0:30:23]: We're not sending out newsletters, you're not providing updates to the council person who's supposed to be representing them. [0:30:24, 0:30:39]: That's what I'm upset about. So I can't support it. I won't support it. And I know there's other development that's going on there. However, I'm not being apprised of what's happening here. Seems like at least one council member knows, not me though. [0:30:41, 0:30:46]: [1846.6, 1866.6]: I had not have any contact to discuss these items. I wanted to discuss them in public because I raised this contention when it was brought up here the first time is that this facility in general would not have been allowed if this was in the Parkway Corridor. Staff has clarified the parking lot. [0:31:06, 0:31:26]: And is the parking this particular parcel that is owned is in the in the parkway mixed use district. That was just clarified tonight. There was no other discussions by myself. My contention in discussing this was was this allowed in the parkway corridor? And staff has attempted to [0:31:26, 0:31:46]: Correct that, but certainly there hasn't been any discussions outside of these to uh to discuss this. I was with I was the one who spearheaded the highway corridor plan all over the city. That's why I know that this was a potential issue because it sets standards not just in my district, it sets [0:31:46, 0:32:03]: standards all over the city for the ten foot path, the frontage, the back, the front setback, the side setback. It said everything for that corridor and it specifically prohibits certain businesses from going along major corridors. That's why I asked the question. It had nothing to do with where it was located at. Thank you. [0:32:03, 0:32:08]: Any any further questions for the council? We're good? Oh yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [0:32:08, 0:32:15]: Where where would the unit start? It won't be on the frontage of the road, would it? [0:32:15, 0:32:27]: Do would the plan be I I mean, I'm trying to figure out where the units would start and would the would they be willing to work with us to make sure that it's really not visible from that front frontage portion of the road. [0:32:28, 0:32:30]: So my understand [0:32:31, 0:32:33]: Miss Battle. I think Miss Battle is [0:32:33, 0:32:53]: First of all, um thank you all for taking this matter up. I know this is the second time that you all have dealt with this. I was not able to attend at the last meeting as I was out of town on vacation. So um I feel like I'm stepping into the middle of something that I was really not aware of other than what my associate told me. Um we have been working on this matter. [0:32:53, 0:33:13]: Now for a couple of months. We started out asking who was responsible for doing right-of-way abandonments. Because from our perspective, the client's perspective, the property is currently zoned to allow for a self-storage facility. But for this, they wouldn't even, we wouldn't even be here. This would be going [0:33:13, 0:33:21]: Going through normal process, getting an LD. I think they had, in fact, already submitted for their LDP, and they were moving forward because. [0:33:21, 0:33:27]: It is a permissible use under the zoning ordinance. So anytime you got a permissible use. [0:33:27, 0:33:40]: You don't come before here. There's no notices. You just see the the sign for construction or whatever that goes up. And that's that's all there is. But because this right of way had been abandoned, they felt that [0:33:40, 0:33:44]: It was better suited for them to take ownership of it. [0:33:44, 0:34:04]: so that you don't end up with dumping in the road bed still left in there. I don't know if the city was gonna try and put some type of physical barrier over there, but nobody wants that. That doesn't look good. And what they didn't want was people just kind of driving down that road and it just ends and there's nothing to happen on that street. [0:34:04, 0:34:13]: And they don't want it to look bad. So they thought that it made more sense for them to incorporate it into their project so that that was not an issue. [0:34:14, 0:34:20]: The property that is in front on track one, I just asked the client, their intent on that. [0:34:20, 0:34:26]: is to place a retail center on that property that will be in alignment [0:34:26, 0:34:27]: With what's in [0:34:28, 0:34:31]: the overlay district. So if that's allowed, I just asked staff. [0:34:31, 0:34:51]: If that's allowed in the overlay. So they are more than happy to work. I know the Economic Development Department, I've been trying to get clients to work cooperatively with them to find the types of retailers that you all might want within the city, because I know you all have a vision for what you all are trying to do. So we know. [0:34:51, 0:34:55]: I think it's T Dallas Austin who I I know well. [0:34:55, 0:34:57]: Ам Isto work with him. [0:34:57, 0:35:10]: um when he was at H. J. Russell and Company. So I know that company and we are more than happy to have them work cooperatively to get the type of retailers that you all might like. But they're not that far in the process with regards to that. [0:35:11, 0:35:16]: All they want to do is to abandon that little portion of the of the site. [0:35:17, 0:35:17]: Um [0:35:18, 0:35:38]: And to place the building itself would be on the track that is already, as I said, currently zoned and allowed for that use. To the extent that I don't know if staff is seeing the building elevations or anything like that. I don't even think they've gotten that far. So those are things that we certainly as we're [0:35:38, 0:35:58]: Going through that process, comments from the commissioner for the district, all those kind of things. To the extent that that's part of the process, we're more than happy, you know, to work through that process with you all. Um, but the intent here is not to do anything that violates the overlay or the the highway corridor portion that you all have worked so hard on. There's no intent. [0:35:58, 0:36:01]: there. But they they are allowed to do [0:36:02, 0:36:05]: the self storage facility because that's what the property is owned for. [0:36:05, 0:36:25]: Or that's what the property allows under its current zoning. So that's the only thing. That's the only reason why I came here. We went ahead, we got the appraisal that requires them to actually pay for this property. And so the appraisal has been submitted to you all. And I know that you all don't do right-of-way abandonments all the time. [0:36:25, 0:36:42]: So we appreciate that, you know, there was, I think staff was trying to figure out well who who does what, but we've worked um with staff, um, public works in order to make sure that we responded to the questions that they had with regards to this process. So um [0:36:42, 0:37:02]: Councilmember Barber, I know we had attempted to reach out to you to have discussion about it. And then I know that um Josh last or a couple of days ago sent you some additional information about the project to give you more information. I'm not aware of what you all do from a staffing perspective, of what you need. [0:37:02, 0:37:22]: Needed or what you wanted from them. But we have been circulating this information, the site plan, the um plat, um, all the information from GDOT because the road has already been abandoned and they've already relocated, to my understanding. So all this work has been done. All that's left is this remnant road that's just sitting. [0:37:22, 0:37:42]: there um that once again we don't want to become a dumping ground um in front of this facility. So we are hopeful that we can get this done. I hate that you know we're kind of in the middle of what appears to be some disconnect between Councilmember Barber and staff, but I hope that my client does not get penalized. [0:37:42, 0:37:55]: because of any disconnect on that front, because we've tried to do everything that we were supposed to do to bring this forth appropriately. Because there wasn't a we even when we looked in your code, there was not a set [0:37:57, 0:38:02]: process like there's no application. There's no, you know, that may be something you all choose to look at. [0:38:02, 0:38:22]: uh in other jurisdictions where I do this, they have one person that kind of deals with this and then they go through a process and inform everybody and all that kind of stuff. But you all don't do this that frequently. That's more so on the county's sides when they're having to do these abandonments. So um we are just hopeful that we can go ahead and and and get this done because my client has been waiting. He's got some contractual obligations. [0:38:22, 0:38:30]: And that they're trying to meet some deadlines. And, you know, it's been a minute because we started this, I think, back in [0:38:30, 0:38:32]: My goodness, I think we sent this over in [0:38:33, 0:38:34]: July. [0:38:35, 0:38:55]: August and we're just now kind of getting around to this moment. So thank you for your presentation this textbook. If I may respond. Yes, you can just say that one step. Thank you. Thank you for everything that you've done and and hopefully you enjoyed your vacation. Got clan, so just clear your head. I did. It was my work. Get back to business. Go ahead and Councilman Barber. [0:38:57, 0:38:58]: I have the floor now. [0:38:58, 0:39:05]: Uh yes, you can go now. Thank you, Miss Battle, for being here. Um and thank you for reaching out to me. You're absolutely right, there is a disconnect. [0:39:06, 0:39:06]: Um [0:39:07, 0:39:13]: I expect that staff will provide me with information before talking to any applicant. [0:39:13, 0:39:15]: Regarding any proposed project. [0:39:16, 0:39:16]: Um [0:39:17, 0:39:19]: The council voted [0:39:19, 0:39:20]: Uh [0:39:20, 0:39:24]: Капла єрського, да whenever a application is submitted. [0:39:24, 0:39:26]: By business. [0:39:26, 0:39:30]: That we be if it is approved or acceptable. [0:39:31, 0:39:33]: The ones that you all don't have to bring to the council for approval. [0:39:34, 0:39:36]: We want to be apprised of that. [0:39:37, 0:39:39]: Now that we have districts, I'm responsible. [0:39:40, 0:39:44]: To provide answers to those residents and business owners in the area. [0:39:45, 0:40:05]: What I've asked, Mr. Gardner, I've seen you mouthing over here. So if you have any questions, you can stand up here. I don't mind us having some discussions. I'm directing my comments to staff. Oh, okay. But you seem to be pretty disrespectful over here in the corner with your frowns. Okay. Nonetheless, I asked. [0:40:05, 0:40:13]: Multiple times of staff to provide me with details in regards to whatever it was Ms. Battle was sending to me. [0:40:14, 0:40:15]: I didn't get anything. [0:40:15, 0:40:16]: What I did get [0:40:17, 0:40:23]: Um on I guess Friday was an email that Mr. Alexander forwarded. [0:40:24, 0:40:28]: From community development with the city manager on copy. [0:40:28, 0:40:30]: He forwarded to the council. [0:40:31, 0:40:37]: The directive at our last meeting was that the city manager appris the council [0:40:37, 0:40:39]: Representative of that area. [0:40:40, 0:40:41]: Of what was going on. [0:40:42, 0:40:45]: To provide me more information. That didn't happen. [0:40:46, 0:40:49]: Other than what I just heard here today. [0:40:50, 0:40:52]: That is not the way we should do business. [0:40:53, 0:40:54]: It is not. [0:40:58, 0:40:59]: Respectfully. [0:40:59, 0:41:09]: The information that was submitted in the zoning pa in the abandonment pocket that came to you guys included everything that staff had gotten up until today. [0:41:09, 0:41:17]: Right. I cannot control if somebody sends an email back and forth because obviously I get a thousand emails. [0:41:17, 0:41:18]: All right. [0:41:18, 0:41:23]: But as it relates specifically to the democ the dimensions of this project. [0:41:23, 0:41:34]: The abandonment of this project, the appraisal of this project that was asked for, those things were provided to this council as a whole last week or the week before when the pocket came to you guys. [0:41:35, 0:41:35]: Right? [0:41:35, 0:41:45]: We've done our best to apprise you guys of all of the zoning issues that come in, but once again, this this no it's not a zoning. This came through as an abandonment through the public works department. And so my apologies [0:41:46, 0:41:48]: For us not getting that information out. [0:41:48, 0:41:53]: I've already informed the staff that we'll be sending out that general information, whatever it is that's happening. [0:41:53, 0:41:58]: Бо іти з дифорфою і сам вус и мофис і ся ам тим а. [0:41:58, 0:42:00]: Floating a balloon on [0:42:01, 0:42:02]: First street. [0:42:02, 0:42:09]: And then it doesn't happen. And I send that to you, you're gonna ask me what happened to the balloon. Well, it didn't happen. They didn't apply for a permit, it was a thought. [0:42:11, 0:42:12]: A concept. [0:42:13, 0:42:16]: Right? The time it takes to do that for everybody's district. [0:42:18, 0:42:22]: We only t send it for information when concrete stuff comes before us. [0:42:22, 0:42:26]: Not the fact that somebody walks in my office and says, I'm thinking about doing something. [0:42:27, 0:42:32]: I might put that in there that I met with a certain person, but until they submit something concrete to us. [0:42:33, 0:42:36]: Why am I gonna flood you guys with that type of information that it might not bear fruit? [0:42:40, 0:42:54]: But we put together the pocket that included all of the information that we were given. I asked them if they had elevations of the project and that if we got those elevations from them that I would submit it to everybody. I did not get any elevations. So I therefore I had nothing to submit. [0:42:55, 0:43:05]: They are you asked for presentation, so staff put together the pre this this to include information that you already had in your pocket to kind of put it in a presentation format. That's what was asked for when we did that. [0:43:07, 0:43:14]: When this information was provided to um me or brought to my attention by Miss Battle. [0:43:14, 0:43:19]: I don't know if she was speaking about this or some other proposed development. [0:43:19, 0:43:22]: But you know once a permit has been filed for. [0:43:23, 0:43:24]: I wanna know. [0:43:25, 0:43:28]: Whether it's approved or goes through the full process. [0:43:29, 0:43:30]: I wanna know. [0:43:30, 0:43:34]: And that is the discussion that the council had каплис-го. [0:43:35, 0:43:38]: What I do not want is any other council member. [0:43:39, 0:43:44]: having influence on what's going on in my district without me knowing what's happening. [0:43:45, 0:43:50]: I know that this is not the o only development that's coming to that particular area. [0:43:51, 0:44:01]: It's clear to me, although you all still have not provided me with any information on proposed developments that are being discussed in that area. [0:44:01, 0:44:07]: I know that there is. The second point I wanted to make is there is a public storage facility. [0:44:08, 0:44:09]: About a malloway. [0:44:11, 0:44:21]: So are we only is our vision only to uplift those that live off the Jodico Road and Walt Stevens Road area? What about the other areas of our city? [0:44:21, 0:44:28]: that needs to be revitalized. Is a public storage facility all that we have that we can bring to the area? [0:44:29, 0:44:37]: Those are the kind of statements and questions that I get all the time. So since you're sending me out here by myself to try to explain to the public. [0:44:38, 0:44:40]: What plans we have for that area? [0:44:40, 0:44:44]: I'm asking for answers from staff first. [0:44:45, 0:45:04]: I asked months ago. Relax for a second. Point of order. I asked months ago and I got no answer. Along with several other emails that I've been sending recently and I'm not getting responses. So I don't know if staff is being told not to respond to my emails. They are point of order. But it needs to stop. [0:45:04, 0:45:14]: Today. What's your point? What's your point of order? If there are any um uh we are a body of um [0:45:16, 0:45:23]: Civics, civilization. Um, if there are any complaints in regards to [0:45:23, 0:45:43]: um staff or disgruntle agreements. That's something that we can talk about in executive session. At this point in time losing battle. Could y'all just go along at this point in time, what we are supposed to be talking about is this particular issue that's on the floor right now, that's on the agenda. And I think we have strayed far away from that. [0:45:43, 0:45:50]: We are now in a broad spectrum in regards to districts and who can say what about people's districts. [0:45:50, 0:45:53]: And I think that we need to go back and narrowly [0:45:53, 0:45:58]: discuss what the agenda item issue is as of right now. I think it's gotten [0:45:59, 0:46:02]: Um, a little bit out of hand in regards to finger pointing. [0:46:03, 0:46:07]: And blaming and um we did get this information last week. [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: That's why we [0:46:08, 0:46:12]: We got we postponed to get additional information which we've received. [0:46:12, 0:46:17]: And so it you know, I just think that we need to narrowly scope it back to the agenda item. [0:46:18, 0:46:30]: I concur with that I would ask to speak next because I wanted to clarify something. Staff did not reach out to me. I proactive staff was responding to an email that I sent. [0:46:31, 0:46:32]: After our meeting [0:46:33, 0:46:53]: I had some concern about this project being located in the highway court. So I asked staff that question. I proactively forwarded the message to the rest of the council because of my concern, because I had reached out. Any individual council member could have done the same thing that I did. [0:46:53, 0:46:58]: I did. I did as well. What part of that don't you understand? I didn't hope I got no answer. [0:46:58, 0:47:00]: Not only that, I [0:47:01, 0:47:04]: What actually happened was I was dismissed. [0:47:05, 0:47:12]: I was told that, oh well this applicant knows the process. I'll I'll talk I'll reach out to them. [0:47:12, 0:47:13]: That's all I got. [0:47:14, 0:47:27]: That's all I'm saying. I wanted to know specifically listen, what I'm not going to do is sit here and play games with any of you on this. This is something that is affecting the district that I am representing. [0:47:27, 0:47:33]: So to send information to the council as a whole, that's great. But do you not think [0:47:33, 0:47:35]: That it would be respectful. [0:47:35, 0:47:55]: of the person who's representing the district to at least get the information first or at least be apprised of the information mayor first. Because that never happens in my district. Mayor. While you all are discussing order again the district that I represent. You're leaving a person out of it. Mayor supposed to be speaking for the people who live in [0:47:55, 0:47:56]: Yeah. [0:47:57, 0:48:07]: So I'm not gonna keep playing these games with you all. I am not. What I'm expecting is for staff to do the job they've been hired to do. [0:48:07, 0:48:27]: To point of order. What I'm expecting is discussing interference. Executive sessions. That's what I'm expecting. Now, we all had a week to go and call and ask our questions. [0:48:27, 0:48:47]: We knew this was coming up. We postponed. We heard all the information, the last meeting. There's no need of us throwing blame and crying out victim because we all had the opportunity to ask our questions. I call Mr. Gardner myself and ask questions. It doesn't matter. [0:48:47, 0:49:00]: Three years ago, two years ago, we didn't have districts. I don't look at Stockbridge as districts. I look at it as our responsibility to make sure that we are doing what's in the best interest of Stockbridge in general. [0:49:00, 0:49:20]: I made a motion last week to postpone because I was uncomfortable out of respect of the comments that Councilwoman Barber made and the questions she had. Councilwoman Barber can pick up the phone like everybody else. We get a paid cell phone by the city. And she could have called our uh called Mr. Gardner and if she did, if she didn't still understand it. [0:49:20, 0:49:40]: Call and if she didn't understand it, so be I'm not gonna play these games. I'm not going to allow you to keep playing Mayor Ford. You can move this meeting along. Move this meeting along. We're not. Let's vote on the item and move it along. What I'm not going to do is keep sending emails after emails calls after calls for them to ignore me. [0:49:40, 0:49:45]: Calm down. Calm down. Carry on with this meeting. Calm down. [0:49:46, 0:49:50]: Calm down. All right. Mr Gardner, come back to the podium, please. [0:49:51, 0:49:52]: All right, now [0:49:53, 0:50:08]: Yes, we have districts. Every we have district representation, but it's still a concern that even though you have districts and you have representatives for districts, the entire council has concern about the entire city. And hold on, don't tell me to move on. I allowed you to speak plenty. [0:50:09, 0:50:15]: Now what it amounts to, if anybody has any concern about things going, I'm the one that it's voted on city wide. [0:50:15, 0:50:20]: Period. We all part of the team. It's always been that way. Hold on now. Did I interrupt you? [0:50:23, 0:50:40]: We're all part of a team, regardless. No matter what you represent, we're all part of a team elected by the people. We need to represent the people properly. And obviously obviously the staff's do gotta do their job. There's opportunities and things for for you to talk to the staff, call the staff, filter everything through the city manager. That can be done. [0:50:40, 0:50:42]: Always she's always available. [0:50:42, 0:50:45]: If he's not to keep working with it or come here to visit. [0:50:46, 0:50:50]: Well we gotta make clear we run things and do things properly here, folks. We're getting out of hand. [0:50:51, 0:51:00]: And y yes, I put some managing meeting, but it also takes your control and your assets and your concern for one another and respect for one another to make sure we're doing things right. [0:51:00, 0:51:02]: All right? So listen. [0:51:02, 0:51:07]: Yes, we have council districts. I got that. But regardless of that. [0:51:07, 0:51:13]: We all have a interest special interest in what goes on in the city, period, because not one person, not even I. [0:51:13, 0:51:20]: Have mass control. I don't have total control. None of us have total control. It's all team effort. It takes three to move anything. [0:51:21, 0:51:23]: Whether I like it or not, it takes three. [0:51:24, 0:51:29]: We need to understand that. It's a team effort, always a team effort. And mom always talking about team. [0:51:29, 0:51:47]: I'll move on when I'm ready. I'll move see now you want to be argument. I didn't need to be able to do that. I don't need you lecturing me, that's for sure. I'm not well. We have a sensor at this. Wow. Okay. Let me if I could stand by one stand by one second, please. Okay. [0:51:48, 0:51:55]: Uh Mr. Gardner, I'm sorry about all this happening the way it is. You just gotta maintain your composure as best as possible. You and the staff. You just gotta continue to do that, sir. All right? [0:51:56, 0:52:16]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, so uh to get us right back on target. The options are to abandon this property or not to abandon this property. So what are the other options? If the city does not choose to abandon the property, then what are the options we what are the other options? We turned it into a [0:52:16, 0:52:23]: A pocket park, we maintain it. What are the options? If we use it as an easement, what are the other options so we have everything on the table? [0:52:27, 0:52:35]: Just about this subject. That stretch of road that you see in front of you, if you if if the council chooses not to abandon it. [0:52:35, 0:52:42]: We will have to maintain that little strip and perpetuity until such time that the city sees that it wants to abandon it. [0:52:42, 0:52:46]: And if the person that owns the adjacent property on both sides of it wants to take it. [0:52:47, 0:52:48]: Um [0:52:48, 0:53:08]: The other effect of that is obviously we know that this has been an area where homeless folks have been encamping along that Davis Road area. Obviously, that takes this location with the development of the property takes it off the map for folks to be homeless and hiding in the bush. Um, the public works director could tell you that we've spent time and effort um cleaning [0:53:08, 0:53:09]: Yeah. [0:53:09, 0:53:24]: Um and Councilmember Barber knows that when she gets the call and we get the call, we go out there and we try to clean up and those folks go into the tree line in that area right there. Um so that's always an issue and that that will if that road is abandoned, it's probably gonna become a haven for those folks to come back to. [0:53:25, 0:53:40]: Um if it's not, it's gonna be there. And obviously we'll have to to um barrier it off at this point, um right about here. Mm-hmm. It'll have to the rotor is turning right there. [0:53:40, 0:53:47]: Right. That that think that store is now gone. But right along this area where the road turns and goes towards [0:53:48, 0:53:50]: No, Henry Boulevard right there. [0:53:50, 0:53:54]: Okay, so so that stretch from pretty much from right there to here. [0:53:55, 0:54:00]: we would have to put a barrier up right here. Um GDOT is already creating a barrier on that end. [0:54:01, 0:54:05]: And so we will be charged with maintaining the right of ways in this area. [0:54:05, 0:54:06]: And obviously, you know. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: What's gonna happen is folks gonna come there and they're gonna dump or they're gonna [0:54:10, 0:54:12]: put pitch up home distance'cause it's [0:54:12, 0:54:13]: Behind screening. [0:54:13, 0:54:14]: Um [0:54:14, 0:54:23]: The applicant owns this piece already, this little slither of a piece of property they own, so the road pretty much bisects their property on both sides. [0:54:24, 0:54:32]: Um so obviously from their standpoint it makes sense to control that whole piece of property, incorporate it as part of the project and make it happen. If not, [0:54:32, 0:54:35]: Obviously you can tell from the diagram, they can walk around it. [0:54:36, 0:54:37]: Um [0:54:37, 0:54:38]: And we'll have to maintain it. [0:54:41, 0:54:44]: Mr Thomas, you haven't said anything. Do you have any comments there at all? [0:54:45, 0:54:48]: Uh I I do not mayor um [0:54:51, 0:55:03]: What I really wanna say, uh uh I'm not going to say because it sort of just goes back into the argument part of it. But I do wanna thank Mr. Gardner um for that explanation and [0:55:05, 0:55:06]: I'll just say that [0:55:07, 0:55:27]: We all are concerned about the city. And it's always a uh a group decision on anything to move. And I just want us to keep that in focus that and as you indicated, Mayor, it does take us as a team, it does take a consensus of council to move any agenda item. And I just think we just [0:55:27, 0:55:38]: need to sort of be a little bit more understanding and be a little bit more cordial. Um and you know, and I think Mr. Garden sort of indicated too when it comes to the staff. [0:55:39, 0:55:40]: So we just have to try to [0:55:41, 0:56:01]: uh work together as a counselor and as a staff to get the best information. And so that's the reason I asked Mr. Gardner uh about the other item. He said that um the staff needed to do some research and I would just encourage was that information coming back to the council. But you know, just basically we we just need to understand [0:56:01, 0:56:09]: Understand our role, understand the role of counsel, understand the role of staff, and put that together and be more efficient. [0:56:09, 0:56:11]: more effective [0:56:11, 0:56:31]: In moving our great city forward. And that's always been my concern. And I always talk about uh processes, procedures, and and I think when we sort of stay in that area, in those boundaries, then things really move forward. Thank you, Mayor, for asking. You're welcome, sir. No problem. On that note, I would imagine we have [0:56:31, 0:56:38]: I have a comment I'd like to well question I'd like to ask Mirror Four. [0:56:38, 0:56:42]: My hand was raised. As usual you ignore me, so I have to assert myself. [0:56:43, 0:56:45]: Mr. Gardner, that little side street. [0:56:46, 0:56:50]: Um is that the side street that leads to the residential homes back there? [0:56:51, 0:56:58]: Because there is a subdivision or neighborhood back there. So how do those residents exit? [0:56:58, 0:56:59]: Their neighborhood. [0:57:00, 0:57:02]: If that street is [0:57:02, 0:57:03]: Closed off. [0:57:03, 0:57:04]: Yeah, just take it back. I don't [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: It's not shown up up here. [0:57:12, 0:57:13]: So we can't see. [0:57:15, 0:57:24]: Excuse me. So the road, Old Orlanta Road that they were using to access off of, it's actually going to turn like I mentioned. It's gonna turn and it's gonna go [0:57:26, 0:57:28]: Uh go back opposite way. [0:57:32, 0:57:34]: The road actually goes turns right about here. [0:57:36, 0:57:38]: And goes out to [0:57:38, 0:57:45]: Or um out out to Highway forty two right there. Okay, so there will be only are they able to turn left and right? [0:57:45, 0:57:49]: When they exit from that point, when they get to North Henry Boulevard. [0:57:50, 0:57:51]: To forty two. [0:57:52, 0:57:57]: This access point that you just shared next to this dentist office. [0:58:02, 0:58:03]: Will that be accessible? [0:58:04, 0:58:11]: So right here, we see where this is the road now that everybody uses. They come straight down that road and goes to [0:58:11, 0:58:22]: to highway forty two. So the road turns right where I showed you that building is. So they'll be able to turn, come out of their subdivision, come down the road, turn and go either north or south. Um [0:58:25, 0:58:26]: Well, they're gonna be able to just go north. [0:58:27, 0:58:33]: on North Henry Boulevard, does this look like this is a median right here. So they can only do right in and right out. [0:58:33, 0:58:34]: As I thought. [0:58:35, 0:58:45]: Thank you, sir. Yes, ma'am. And as it relates to the property as a whole, Miss Barber, when it comes down to it from we don't recruit, obviously I think as Miss Battle said, [0:58:46, 0:58:51]: Everyone here that owns property has rights in those properties, whether it's a house or business or raw land. [0:58:52, 0:58:56]: Right. And what controls that is what it is zoned for. [0:58:57, 0:59:04]: And those zoning costs permitted uses. So if a person owns a piece of property and they want to build a house in its own residential, [0:59:05, 0:59:25]: They're gonna just come and pull permits to build their house once they get the architect. Same thing with a business. If a person owns a commercial piece of property, they're gonna look to come to us to ask, hey, can I put an ice cream shop on this property? It's zone C3 or C2, and we're gonna say yes. And at that point, they're just gonna go ahead and move forward because that's their business. [0:59:25, 0:59:27]: business aspiration for their piece of property. [0:59:27, 0:59:31]: So in a situation like that where we're not out recruiting. [0:59:32, 0:59:33]: Generically things happen. [0:59:34, 0:59:40]: Um and those things happen, and the only time we do see them is when they come in for permits. If somebody's building a house on five acres. [0:59:40, 0:59:43]: That they're just gonna come in when they come to bill. [0:59:43, 0:59:49]: Um there are times when yes, when we can go out if we're part, you know, we see areas that we wanna see get done and [0:59:50, 1:00:09]: you know, those owners um are willing to work with us, especially what we did on Patrick Henry with working with the few landowners that were in the city, we were able to accomplish that. But like small three acre, two acre, one acre tracks like that, it's much more difficult to control or know when that person's gonna bring something in. And that's what makes it difficult. [1:00:09, 1:00:11]: Um from that standpoint. [1:00:11, 1:00:13]: Uh but typically, you know [1:00:13, 1:00:33]: We typically see it when it comes through when they submit for a land disturbance or they submit for a building plan. And that's typically most your generic stuff, how that happens. Um it's not like we're out recruiting anybody specific, but we would love to see certain things come. And if we you know, if the applicant, the owner of the property is willing to discuss with us beforehand. [1:00:33, 1:00:37]: Yeah, that's an opportunity for us to say, hey, we would like to see this in this area. [1:00:37, 1:00:54]: Um and then we try to advocate for it, but obviously it's gotta make business sense for them. Right? Because as much as me w want something to come to our community, if they don't think they're gonna be able to make money off of it, they're not gonna go. They're gonna go with the area where they think they're gonna make money because nobody is in business to lose money. [1:00:54, 1:00:56]: Or to lose whatever investment they put into something. [1:00:57, 1:00:59]: Right, we don't try to operate at a loss. [1:01:00, 1:01:20]: Right. So that's kind of the dynamics of how it happens. Some things we could intentionalize, some things happen generically, and when we try to control it is when it comes through the process. Okay. Are you aware of any other developments that come after this in this same vicinity? No, ma'am, not that I know of, other than what right how that is what made it. [1:01:20, 1:01:31]: Ms. Battle was calling or reaching out to me about. Okay. So I would think that you or Mr. Anderson would be aware of what she was reaching out to me about. [1:01:31, 1:01:42]: So I don't know and I guess we bottle it update. So this is what I mean by I'm blindsided. So I don't work closely with developers. Um I typically wait. [1:01:42, 1:01:46]: Until I've had conversations with city staff about [1:01:46, 1:01:50]: what this is about. Mm-hmm. Yes, ma'am. So hearing from [1:01:51, 1:01:52]: A developer. [1:01:52, 1:01:53]: Um [1:01:54, 1:02:05]: I don't know what to say. Right. And in and in this case, obviously, because this was permitted by right, Ms. Barber, the issue was whether we the city was gonna abandon this piece of roadway or not, right? [1:02:05, 1:02:14]: Um, outside of that, yes, okay, we will uh I've already had the c discussion with Ryan that, hey, this is something we need to make sure we're intentional about doing. But [1:02:15, 1:02:35]: If this road abandonment wasn't part of it, obviously they have the right. They would have developed the property regardless. But like you said, we should notify you that something's coming in the area and we'll we'll we'll make sure we do that. And that's everybody's district moving forward. Um but yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, this we have little or no control. [1:02:35, 1:02:44]: So obviously, of other than the permitted uses that's allowed for them to put on the property. So right now they're proposing to put a permitted use on the property. [1:02:44, 1:02:45]: Um [1:02:45, 1:02:50]: You know, the decision is whether or not the city council wants to abandon the roadway or not abandon the roadway. [1:02:52, 1:02:53]: Oh, right here, please, Mr. Battle. [1:02:54, 1:03:14]: What a point of clarity. Um, Councilmember Barber, it is my belief that when something comes into your district or any of the other districts, and you can ask the other uh commissioners or council members, I call you all and let you know that I have a client that is interested in doing in something in your district, and I try to get feedback. [1:03:14, 1:03:30]: Because I don't like to bring things into districts without having some discussion with the council member to see whether or not it's even worth my client wasting their money to come into an area before going through all the site plans and [1:03:30, 1:03:50]: And all the money because it's an expensive process to go through. So I contacted you a couple of weeks ago because I have a client that wants to do something on the other side, not on this side of North Henry Boulevard, but at the very top end, right before you go into the next jurisdiction, up at the very top end. And [1:03:50, 1:04:10]: I wanted to have some discussion to get some idea as to whether or not that was something that you would even entertain. You indicated that you would prefer to us go to staff, and so that is what we have done. We've gone to staff, we've had a couple of meetings now with staff in order to get some feedback for my client to make some decision as to whether or not they even want to pursue. [1:04:10, 1:04:25]: Pursue the project. Nothing has been filed. This is just discussions. I feel like that is a beneficial thing for my clients to speak to the council members before I start even sometimes speaking with staff. Because I feel like if you tell me [1:04:26, 1:04:33]: Uh'cause I've had this told. I know d commissioners on co council members have told me. Don't even bring that over here, Michelle. [1:04:34, 1:04:54]: Just keep it moving, because I'm not I'm not interested that in my district. So I make that a a a priority for myself and I do that in every jurisdiction that I practice in because I find that that is more effective and it saves time and money. Because truthfully, I don't like losing. It's not worth it to me. I get paid to win. [1:04:54, 1:05:14]: And that's what my job is. And so I try to make sure I I spend my time wisely and my clients' money wisely. So that project has zero to do with what's going on here. That's a totally different developer, that's a uh a residential community, um, and has nothing to do with anything that's going on on this particular right of way. Um [1:05:13, 1:05:15]: abandonment. So I just wanted to make that clear. [1:05:16, 1:05:19]: Thank you, I appreciate that. Ms. Battle, before you leave. [1:05:19, 1:05:25]: Can I ask a little bit? So I just wanna make sure that they are you had mentioned that the [1:05:26, 1:05:27]: Uh developer here. [1:05:27, 1:05:31]: Who's interested in this parcel and putting the storage [1:05:31, 1:05:41]: facility, which they can put anyway. It's the only thing is a little piece of land right in front of that road, right? And then we response for a roadway between that and a storage unit. [1:05:42, 1:06:02]: You're stating that they have an interest in putting retail in the front portion of that on North Henry Boulevard. Is that the thing? Based on everything that's just transpired, what they said is this. They will work with you all if you want to park there. They'll put a park there. They will work with you all with regards to what goes on that. [1:06:02, 1:06:22]: Particular parcel of land. So that is something that I'm committed to. If they tell me that's what we're going to do, we will set up a meeting with staff and council member Barber or whoever else wants to join on to that conversation to talk about what goes in front and what will be allowed on that period. [1:06:22, 1:06:27]: Peace. That is what my understanding is, and I will follow through on that. [1:06:28, 1:06:28]: Okay. [1:06:29, 1:06:30]: Yeah, for [1:06:31, 1:06:40]: Well one second please. Are you you I'm I'm done. Uh Ms. Battle before you take your seat. I I don't have a question, I just have a comment. [1:06:40, 1:06:45]: And and and I do want to just confirm uh the practice. [1:06:45, 1:06:45]: Yeah. [1:06:46, 1:06:54]: of you reaching out to council members. Uh because you have reached out to me a number of times. And even when I walked in [1:06:55, 1:07:15]: You know, you reminded me again. And so, and I and I think that is very good. And again, um for us to to grow as a city, to be more efficient and effective, uh, and I think that is good coming from [1:07:15, 1:07:35]: uh someone that represents uh developers that want to come in. So I'm just sort of just kudos and to you that I appreciate that. And uh and if I don't return a call or email, that's on me. That's okay. I know you guys are busy. And I know you you have reached out to me a number of times and there's a project that's [1:07:35, 1:07:40]: is coming up in a district that I represent. But even though [1:07:41, 1:07:43]: I look at myself as an elected official. [1:07:44, 1:07:48]: that I represent the whole city because citizens come to me all the time anyway. [1:07:49, 1:08:07]: Uh but I just want to say thank you for that practice. I appreciate it. And uh and just forgive me if I don't respond back. But I'm just saying that that's on me. But you and I have agreed that, you know, with this project that's coming, you and I are gonna talk. Absolutely. So I will give you another call. I just wanna say thank you. Not a problem. All right. [1:08:09, 1:08:15]: All right, thank you sir. Appreciate it. Make sure I'm clear left and right. Everybody's had enough to talk so I need [1:08:16, 1:08:20]: Ms. Ryan Anderson. [1:08:26, 1:08:46]: You have been here and you have observed the comments that have been made that then Ms. Gantt's question, which is that parcel which fronts North Henry Boulevard, that tract, that it's been agreeable, that it's basically will be reserved it will be a park or this uh some type of retail development that [1:08:45, 1:09:00]: that would go there, it would not be an expansion of the existing business. That's what you understand. Yes, sir. And it's already protected anyway because it's in the PMU and it wouldn't be allowable anyway. Okay. So okay, I just wanted to make sure we're on the same page. Everybody understands that. Thank thank you. [1:09:00, 1:09:05]: All right. If no other comments in the motion to accept this uh approval. Yes, ma'am. [1:09:07, 1:09:07]: I'm sorry. [1:09:10, 1:09:13]: Need a motion to accept this proposed right away amendment. [1:09:15, 1:09:16]: Some move. Is there a second? [1:09:18, 1:09:19]: Is there a second? [1:09:20, 1:09:22]: [4163.3, 4164.5]: All in favor, please indicate. [1:09:26, 1:09:26]: Okay. [1:09:27, 1:09:32]: I will abstain based on principle. That is my comment. [1:09:32, 1:09:52]: Thank you. We got one final comment. Three three zero one, the motion passed. One final comment. Yes, sir. This area is to be maintained by you all consistent uh with what we would expect of the city, that it would be maintained at the highest level. We don't want to have to come and clean it up and all that kind of thing. Thank you. [1:09:55, 1:10:00]: Thank you. I I need to ask you about one of my business uh I'll not right here. I'll just come to you. It's fine. [1:10:01, 1:10:14]: What we have next is a public hearing. This deals with a text amendment case TX dash two zero two four-zero five citywide. Consideration of text amendment of section two point four point yes, sir. [1:10:16, 1:10:17]: Yeah. [1:10:18, 1:10:19]: Oh yes, ma'am. [1:10:24, 1:10:44]: Okay, once again, this is a public hearing. Text amendment case uh TX dash two zero two four dash zero five citywide consideration of a text amendment of section two point four point four of Stockbridge Unified Development Code UDC to modify the arg uh argument uh excuse me amendment. [1:10:44, 1:10:50]: uh of the regulations for the multifamily resinal residential MFR zoning district. [1:10:51, 1:10:54]: Since it is a public hearing, let me go ahead and finish reading this as well. [1:10:56, 1:11:16]: Public hearing rules. Please mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant or the representative regarding the proposed plan. 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Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Fair to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you deviate from the proceedings. Other than an applicant, no person may speak more than one. [1:12:15, 1:12:35]: Once the applicant may reserve part of his her or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask for the applicant to address questions and or concerns. The presiding officer will call for a motion and a second to the motion. [1:12:35, 1:12:44]: We'll have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. Mr. Addison, please. [1:12:44, 1:13:04]: Good evening. Uh staff can't we came before you on uh July 30th uh city council work session and uh gave a presentation on uh potential changes to uh MFR district. Uh we added things such as three sided brick, uh thirty foot front yard setback, uh flock cameras, if it's a flock cameras. [1:13:04, 1:13:07]: Gated communities under certain circumstances and um [1:13:09, 1:13:25]: And certain other things to uh to improve our MFR district. It's patterned after the bridges of Jodico um master plan master plan. Uh the the con the requirements that they have for their um town homes. So we feel like [1:13:27, 1:13:40]: This ordinance will improve the current ordinance and make um a product that we can be uh more proud of and more aesthetically pleasing and things of that nature. So I presented this, like I said, at the um [1:13:40, 1:13:47]: July thirtieth, um city council work session and nothing has changed since then. It went to the planning commission, they voted unanimously to approve. [1:13:49, 1:14:09]: Yeah, go right ahead, Mr. Alexander. There were a number of items such as the overhangs would be cons uh consistent with metal uh versus uh the regular shingles. The main roof would be a shingle roof, but then below there yes, we we added that too. You added that the street lights were being added too. Black pole for street lights. Street lights are being added. Um [1:14:08, 1:14:19]: Um other one. Uh he said gated the metal roof. Stand by please. Okay, what about the square footage? We did we work on the square footage? [1:14:19, 1:14:21]: Let me see what the square footage is. I think the um [1:14:24, 1:14:26]: We love the square footage, uh [1:14:28, 1:14:35]: The same as current uh fifteen hundred is the minimum square footage. [1:14:36, 1:14:56]: I think that's been the issue that we keep getting basic townhomes or smaller units and we wanted to get some bigger units in the city. Is there maybe like different classifications of something that could go? Because certainly, as I said, I I think it would be best and wise for all of us to have townhomes equal to single family homes. [1:14:56, 1:15:06]: because the areas get more dense, there's a lot less land, so what they build we want it to be uh uh equivalent to a single family home if town homes are approved. [1:15:07, 1:15:22]: Okay. So you wanna what you want to um I'm saying that what are the options? Are there like different zoning areas or is I gonna refer to all this area on this much land or this much, let's say a um [1:15:26, 1:15:46]: versus a medium density versus a high density or is uh something like that where versus the other square footage d a justifiable juice change to that. I just want there to be some clarification where everybody's not building these small basic townhomes that they're building a better a bigger quality [1:15:46, 1:15:56]: quality product and that is equivalent to a single family home. Okay. So so um if if you were had your way, what what what would be the um minimum size you would like to see? [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: I think if we went up to maybe eighteen hundred minimum and then uh you know that would be the minimum and then of course we would want it to be larger than that because you start to get once you go above the eighteen hundred and two thousand, you start to get the fourth bedroom uh in a larger unit uh above two thousand square. [1:16:18, 1:16:18]: Square feet. [1:16:20, 1:16:21]: Okay. [1:16:22, 1:16:42]: If you don't mind, I would I would uh uh venture to say you need a variety of everything. You because the different price points for the to deal with the different folks with different economic backgrounds that that can purchase I'll get to you in just a second, that uh can purchase the homes. So you need different variety of sizes and cost factors, okay? In that aspect. I would think that [1:16:42, 1:16:48]: I don't understand what he's saying, but I'm just adding to the point that we need probably do a variety of that as well. Okay. Okay. [1:16:50, 1:17:10]: Is that is that you had any more else, Mr. Ellison? So the breakdown might be let's say like you're at Jodico in a mixed use development, then uh in a mixed use development of a size uh or scope or versus a certain amount of acreage, then you would go up to the larger townhome versus uh some areas. We do want [1:17:10, 1:17:30]: As the mayor's contention is made, some areas that might be appropriate to a but I think eighteen hundred square feet is pretty reasonable, but we do in some instances we might want less than that because again, we want to have some affordable housing in the city. So it's kind of a thinking out loud moment and a record. [1:17:30, 1:17:36]: recommendation that we're following. How do I get the larger one but steal a lot the south smaller ones at some point? [1:17:37, 1:17:48]: They can come to us and ask for a variance perhaps if if we go with eighteen hundred and then there was a neighborhood that wanted to build tiny homes, then they could come to us and ask for a variance. [1:17:49, 1:18:09]: You think about that, Mayor? It sounds good. It is um something you can apply for a variance for. Right. We would set a min a minimum of eighteen hundred square feet, but if someone wanted to come in and build a specific project like a tiny home community or an affordable home community, they could ask for a variance under that category that it would be [1:18:10, 1:18:12]: Ms. Garn Garner has something to add here. [1:18:15, 1:18:35]: special use. Yeah. Okay. Spe okay, we'll use a special use. You you don't want to use a variance. You don't want to use variances because variances um they're quasi judicial. Mm-hmm. Right? And so as you treat one, treat all. Um when you do [1:18:35, 1:18:46]: a special use or a rezoning that's legislative. So it's at the discretion of the legislative body, whether they choose to, whether or not you grind it on that side of the road or this side of the road, it don't matter. Mm-hmm. [1:18:46, 1:18:56]: Um and so variances are specific criteria you have to meet. Size, shape, topography, some constraint. So in a situation where you might want and I kinda get where you're going with it. [1:18:56, 1:19:16]: where if you're more on the outer fringe of the city, bigger. Mm-hmm. Whatever. If you're more in the heart of the city, obviously where, you know, and if the road permits it, because we're not as big as we is big, but we're still not, you know, most of our areas are small or confined. [1:19:16, 1:19:17]: [4757.6, 4777.4]: Um but if they want to build something smaller, you should want that to go through the special use provision rather than a variance. So it gets heard at the planning commission, this the CMU, the community meeting, the planning commission, and then to you guys, and then you guys make a uh final determination. That's the best route to take it through. Make it a special use. [1:19:38, 1:19:47]: Absolutely. I I I'm I'm agre y'all agreeable to that. Then eighteen hundred then with the special use. That sounds good to me. But that's that's what I recommend. All right. [1:19:48, 1:19:52]: You done, sir? Okay. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:19:55, 1:20:00]: Mr Anderson, um so currently [1:20:01, 1:20:02]: The front yard set back. [1:20:03, 1:20:03]: Is what? [1:20:04, 1:20:05]: Fifty feet. Okay. [1:20:06, 1:20:17]: So this thirty feet is what you're proposing the change to be. Yes, because we've been giving out uh uh a lot of variances for thirty feet. Um the minimum yard setback. [1:20:18, 1:20:21]: It's the minimum. The minimum lot size. [1:20:22, 1:20:25]: No. It's the side yard setback. [1:20:25, 1:20:26]: Uh it's twenty feet now. [1:20:26, 1:20:27]: Okay. [1:20:30, 1:20:32]: And you're proposing to change it to ten feet. [1:20:34, 1:20:40]: Dis that's like the distance in between buildings, yes. It still would calculate out to um twenty feet. [1:20:41, 1:20:50]: There was a there was a conflict in our code that we were trying to address with that r by reducing it down to ten feet. [1:20:51, 1:21:05]: You still have each building will still have ten yards, still have its ten yard setback, side yard setback. So ten for this building and ten for the building on the right equals twenty. So currently it'll make s it makes it out to like forty. [1:21:06, 1:21:07]: The way I read. [1:21:09, 1:21:14]: There seems to be a conflict then, so the minimum side yard you're asking for [1:21:14, 1:21:15]: Tiene. [1:21:15, 1:21:16]: Yes. [1:21:17, 1:21:26]: For the minimum distance between buildings, you're proposing twenty. Twenty, yes. Ten for one building, ten for the other. So it equals twenty, yes. [1:21:27, 1:21:32]: Currently, what is um the distance between buildings? [1:21:32, 1:21:39]: Uh it comes out to like forty feet almost. Forty feet. Okay. Because of the the way it's written. [1:21:40, 1:21:52]: Okay. I really wish that there was a table that I can see how it currently is and versus what you're proposing. Okay. Um the minimum rear yard. [1:21:54, 1:21:55]: What is it currently? [1:21:56, 1:21:57]: Um [1:22:02, 1:22:03]: Just [1:22:04, 1:22:05]: Thirty feet. [1:22:06, 1:22:07]: Thirty? Yes. [1:22:11, 1:22:13]: Well it yes. [1:22:16, 1:22:36]: Okay. Um and I do agree. But it also the reason why I hesitate because it it depends on what's the adjacent zoning, like if it's industrial or commercial, then the setback increase this distance requirement increases. Gotcha. Thank you for that. I do agree with Councilman Alexander in regards to um [1:22:36, 1:22:38]: The living area. Um [1:22:39, 1:22:44]: Increasing the amount of square footage per unit. Okay. [1:22:45, 1:22:50]: Um the ones that you have on here seems pretty small. Okay. Um [1:22:51, 1:22:52]: That's all. Thank you, sir. [1:22:54, 1:22:54]: Good. [1:22:55, 1:22:56]: Yes ma'am, go ahead please. [1:22:57, 1:23:02]: If this is a continuation from last week's meeting, then I would like to go [1:23:02, 1:23:16]: I had a a development authority meeting and we talked remember we talked about the stars of the hotels? Is that the same is are we still on that same issue of diff changing different codes and different things right now? Is that what we're doing? Oh what what are you referring to exactly? Uh [1:23:17, 1:23:37]: So last meeting we talked about what star group of hotels we would want. Oh no, this doesn't it's not related to the totally different cause I was gonna say three stars is good after going to the development third retreat. This is strictly on town homes, MFR, yeah. Okay. So that's fine. I I just wanted I didn't know if it was in addition to that. [1:23:37, 1:23:39]: Yeah. No mail. All right. [1:23:40, 1:23:43]: Any other questions at all? [1:23:43, 1:23:57]: I don't have a question, just a comment. So based on um the current square footage or the front setback of currently 50 feet versus 30 feet. [1:24:01, 1:24:14]: I do support changing it to thirty feet just to accommodate multifamily units. Um but as far as the side yard and the distance between buildings, I prefer to keep those the same. Um [1:24:16, 1:24:22]: And the same with the rear yard setback. I prefer to keep it at thirty feet as opposed to the twenty feet that you are [1:24:22, 1:24:23]: Proposing. [1:24:24, 1:24:30]: Those are just my suggestions for the council to consider. Thank you, sir. All right. [1:24:30, 1:24:38]: And that makes a point on whether or not the council will consider those recommendations or not, whether or not there's approval or disapproval in that process and what was just made. [1:24:38, 1:24:41]: Anybody else any comments on that thought process? [1:24:42, 1:24:44]: Yes, sir. Go ahead please. [1:24:45, 1:25:05]: Mr. Anderson, I I asked this question uh at one of the other meetings about um the updates of the UDC and you indicated that um there are some modifications and you'll be coming before the council with that. So it it again [1:25:05, 1:25:25]: Again, I'm sorry going back to the same question because every meeting it comes before the council. So at what point in time will the UDC somewhat be updated so we would not have to, you know, pick and choose like this? [1:25:25, 1:25:45]: Facebook, Council Member Thomas, you wait for a pattern or a trend to develop. Once a pattern or a trend develops, and where we keep coming to council asking for variances or exceptions to the code, and once that trend has been identified, um then it's recommended that you update your code to reflect the code. [1:25:45, 1:26:05]: That pattern and then and then that way it would eliminate future so many future uh barrences or the need to come back before a council. So we we're we're not there yet, you know. Yes, that's why we're here with this with this MFR, because the the 50-foot front yard setback was causing a lot of issues with with developers and um causing the need. [1:26:05, 1:26:18]: For us to come before you for variances. So that's why we um decided to amend it to thirty feet. Okay. Yes, sir. And also um Quentin and I have been discussing and he'll be probably sending out some notification, but [1:26:18, 1:26:21]: Um hopefully at our upcoming retreat in the new year. [1:26:22, 1:26:28]: We wanna look at not just the zoning the UDC but also looking at the uh code of ordinance as well where we [1:26:29, 1:26:41]: need to make some changes and get some recommendations from you guys as well as from the staff. Um just talked about that yesterday. So I told him that's something we could put on the retreat for us to discuss at um at our treat next year. [1:26:42, 1:26:50]: Thank you. But but but what he's doing now is just trying to fill the potholes where uh we see them happening based on what's what the markets [1:26:50, 1:26:52]: And design is happening around the Montrealy. [1:26:53, 1:26:53]: Thank you. [1:26:56, 1:26:58]: Any other comments? Council? [1:26:59, 1:27:19]: If not, this is a public hearing. So I'll open it up uh for any comments from the audience. Uh so I'll start on my very left side. Any positive comments uh for this particular proposal? My very left, in the middle, my very right. Any negative comments from in reference to the proposal? My very left, the middle. [1:27:19, 1:27:31]: Am I right? Seeing none. So I'll close that piece of this public hearing up. So on that note, the council I need a a motion to um to approve this based on our conversation. And what would that motion be? [1:27:34, 1:27:54]: Go ahead, sir. I will make a motion to approve the staff recommendations, including the changes that we had asked for, including the eighteen hundred square foot minimum, uh with a special use permit required for anything smaller than that. [1:27:54, 1:28:12]: Staff had recommended that we have twenty feet between the new homes w to close a a conflict in the um in the current code and certainly I make a recommendation uh for that as well. Is there a second of that motion? [1:28:13, 1:28:15]: I second. Ms. McGann second, and all favor, please indicate. [1:28:17, 1:28:17]: Okay. [1:28:19, 1:28:32]: I oppose. I stated my um comments earlier what I hoped that council would consider, um considering um city council district four. [1:28:32, 1:28:52]: is one of two districts that has um upcoming developments that these this would be affecting. They chose not to consider any of the recommendations. Well council member barber um this will affect future developments. The ones that currently future developments in city council district four and five these [1:28:52, 1:29:00]: The other districts don't have any residential developments coming. Thank you. All right. On that note, the motion passed 310. Thank you. [1:29:02, 1:29:10]: What's that, sir? And I want to ask this maybe of Mr. Gardner and uh of staff. [1:29:10, 1:29:30]: Now, accordingly, Clowns can can make a motion at any time to make a change. But to make a change, we have had subsequent discussion tonight about different facilities. We have restrictions on certain facilities uh in the city. So we wanted to make a recommendation uh to incre uh to add a particular big [1:29:30, 1:29:35]: business to that distance requirement, what is the process behind that? [1:29:36, 1:29:51]: Um, we would go ahead and treat it uh because that would be a text amendment and correct me if I'm wrong under the new rules, that would entail us advertising it, putting the language together, bringing it back before the planning commission and to you guys to adopt whatever that restriction would be. [1:29:51, 1:30:11]: Well, this is what I'm going to suggest for the council. Now I'm in agreement that we these storage facilities are pervasive and they try to locate along certain areas. This is a use that really probably needs to be put a distance requirement on it. We have the dollar stores that have a five mile requirement. [1:30:11, 1:30:28]: certain businesses with so many coming to so many different areas, I would like for staff to go back and and research that text amendment to put a distance requirement between these facilities going forward equivalent to where the dollar story is about five miles. [1:30:29, 1:30:38]: Will do. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. Is there is the consensus from the council that for that? You good? Folks? [1:30:40, 1:30:41]: You have a mission. [1:30:42, 1:30:43]: Well, they'll have to create one. [1:30:46, 1:31:05]: Right, you good with that as well? I'm okay. So you get good tasking. Okay, there you go. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right, so uh out item number four is is postponed or rescheduled for another date. So we'll go to new business item number five, speed bunts speed hump installation on Maple Leaf Drive. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:31:13, 1:31:33]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. We've had uh residents of Maple Leaf Drive submit a petition for speed humps on Maple Leaf Drive. So we verified the property ownerships for those residents on that street. And everything is meets the standard. So we're just asking for counsel to approve that. [1:31:33, 1:31:35]: The installation of the speed humps. [1:31:36, 1:31:56]: Okay, we kinda go ahead, sir. Let me say this. The residents in my neighborhood, Winslow at Eagles Landing, they collected the signatures. I did not participate in collecting the signatures because I didn't want it to overly uh undo affect the results. They did. Uh Miss Bremer went around, knocked on every door uh on Maple Leaf Drive. [1:31:56, 1:32:05]: And got signatures, and trust me, the neighbors are in support of that with the speeding that's going on on Maple Leaf Drive. [1:32:06, 1:32:13]: Careful. Yes, sir, go ahead, please. Uh there, can you indicate uh which method they use as far as the number of signatures? [1:32:15, 1:32:24]: Well what what the petition requires is that you gotta have at least fifty one percent of the residents on that street that vote in the affirmative and sign the petition. [1:32:25, 1:32:30]: Okay, on the street or in the subdivision? On the streets. [1:32:31, 1:32:35]: All right. Thank you, Mayor. No, you're welcome, sir. No problem. [1:32:36, 1:32:37]: All right, please. [1:32:37, 1:32:48]: So I know that um and I do support um the speed bumps as the residents have asked for. My only point of contention is I've got residents in my district. [1:32:48, 1:32:50]: Who also [1:32:50, 1:32:54]: Did a petition, I believe, back in twenty eighteen. [1:32:54, 1:32:56]: Um on Shields Road. [1:32:57, 1:32:57]: And [1:32:58, 1:33:00]: Um based on staff [1:33:00, 1:33:10]: They said that speed bump that road is considered a secondary road and they couldn't install speed bumps. [1:33:10, 1:33:13]: So what I need to understand is [1:33:14, 1:33:17]: How staff is making the decisions [1:33:17, 1:33:19]: based on the petitions. [1:33:19, 1:33:23]: without bringing them to the council for the council to make the decision. [1:33:23, 1:33:27]: If you bring in this petition to the council to vote on [1:33:28, 1:33:48]: I don't understand why you didn't bring the one for Shields Road here to the council to make a decision. Because the ordinance says it's for residential streets. Shields Road is not a residential street. So t in fact the ordinance says it's subdivision roads. It's not major thoroughfares and secondary roads. It's [1:33:48, 1:33:56]: Says residential and Shields does not qualify for speed humps based on the ordinance. It's not a subdivision. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. [1:33:58, 1:34:07]: Any other questions? Yes, one. Go ahead, please. I I noticed that our next agenda item is the change of our policy for speed bumps. [1:34:08, 1:34:28]: What is the percentage of speed that goes through Winslow? Is that I'm assuming that's fifty one percent on that street. But what is the percentage of the speed going through that Winslow? Is it it does it qualify for the fifty one percent based off of what we would consider the new policy as of if w if we vote for it today? So [1:34:28, 1:34:48]: Reason why we're asking for the new the updated policy is that we've been kind of circumventing it's gotten to the point where a resident can call and say, Well, I saw somebody speeding on my street. And so then the next step is they submit a petition. And we've allowed [1:34:48, 1:34:57]: that but what I'm trying to get is a flow chart in here and that the first part of the process if they call and say, hey, we got an issue with speeding. [1:34:58, 1:35:18]: Then we do the speed study. And the speed study determines whether or not we install speed humps. If the speed study justifies that there's a need, then the next step is they go to the petition process. And then the next step is that we verify the petitions, they meet the requirement, then we follow up like we do with [1:35:18, 1:35:24]: We'll verify all the homeowners and we'll come before counsel and say they have met the requirements for speed bumps. Okay. [1:35:25, 1:35:33]: So but we don't know w what that speed is from Winslow. I mean, even though w the he they'll be grandfathered in on the on the other [1:35:33, 1:35:34]: Older. [1:35:35, 1:35:37]: Oh petition. [1:35:37, 1:35:40]: I didn't know if we did a speed check on there or not. [1:35:40, 1:35:48]: Under this policy, the revised policy, it's in the old one as well, but I just want to make sure we're following this flow chart because it says [1:35:48, 1:35:55]: The eighty-fifth percentile speed is an indicator used to determine the maximum reasonable speed by performing a traffic study. [1:35:56, 1:36:08]: If the study indicates that the 85th percentile exceeds thirty-five miles per hour, the petition process will proceed at fifty-one percent of the petition area. Right. So we'll have [1:36:09, 1:36:24]: uh scientific data to justify why we're putting speed humps in because the National Highway Safety says for every speed bump that you install, it delays an emergency response vehicle between six and fifteen seconds. [1:36:25, 1:36:25]: So [1:36:26, 1:36:46]: That's why we're we're coming to you because there are some residents that call and complain that have had like multiple back surgeries. I know one resident called me, and every time they go over those humps, that causes them an issue. So we just want to make sure when we install it in that we keep in mind that emergency response vehicles are responding in these neighborhoods and we don't want to [1:36:46, 1:36:50]: do anything that could possibly delay them responding. [1:36:50, 1:36:50]: Thank you. [1:36:51, 1:37:06]: I must have missed something, but what's the cost factor on this if we pass this? Four forty forty uh the insulation of the hump. Oh, the speed humps? Yes. It's just standard. It's it's negligible. It's included in the public works budget. We have money for signs and speed humps. [1:37:06, 1:37:26]: All right. So be it. If there are no other questions in a motion to accept this proposal. So moved. Is there a second? I second. Ms. Ganttz second that from now. Is that again all favorite, please indicate? Unanimous decision. Thank you very much, sir. Uh city uh stop rate speed hump policy update. Ms. Aaron, you were kind of talking about that before, but further explain, please. Yes, sir. We just want to make sure. [1:37:26, 1:37:46]: Sure, we're following this flow chart and we don't just arbitrarily because people call, because one person said, They're just speeding all the time in my neighborhood. Or we had a call, like somebody said, Well, somebody passed around the school bus while the stop sign was out. We need speed humps. That's not a reason to put speed humps. We just want to follow a process that we [1:37:46, 1:37:54]: We can verify that there's the actual problem in that area versus we being reactive and say, okay, well, we put put the speed humps down. So [1:37:55, 1:37:56]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [1:37:56, 1:38:03]: Um, thank you for that. I you kinda gave us the explanation and the other question I had, so I appreciate the presentation on that. [1:38:04, 1:38:21]: I agree that data is and you've already mentioned that it's very nominal, the cost to check on speed. So um to to keep the or get gather data based off of the speed checks. So um I would like to motion to approve the. Let me ask you a question first. Okay. [1:38:22, 1:38:29]: So I just want to understand one thing. How many speed bump applications have you received? [1:38:29, 1:38:49]: Well uh to justify okay, well we need to add this next step. So how many applications have we received? Well, we get calls all the time. I know how many applications have we received? Currently we've got I think there's eight petitions floating out there in various stages of people trying to collect signatures. [1:38:49, 1:39:00]: get it then they don't get the statistics. So how many do you have that have the the the signatures moved through and how many have you installed in the last year? [1:39:02, 1:39:04]: Let me see. I think we've done [1:39:05, 1:39:14]: two in your neighborhood. We've done some in uh what's the subdivision? We only got one in my neighborhood and that's Wimbrook. So we're we've done about five. [1:39:15, 1:39:19]: So within the last year you've done five in what subdivisions? [1:39:20, 1:39:27]: So uh we've done what's the one. One was in my subdivision two years ago, I think. [1:39:27, 1:39:30]: Um what's the one oh um? [1:39:31, 1:39:40]: The only Wild When are you saying? Wild Win, we've done Wild Wind. Um the one on I think it's Summit off Banks Road. [1:39:41, 1:39:54]: We've done a couple of in there. The homeowner associates is very adamant about having speed humps in their neighborhood. And then the other one is I I can't recall what the other one is, I don't have it with me. But we've done [1:39:56, 1:39:56]: Several. [1:39:57, 1:40:06]: The the only con c concern that I have is and I and I understand that we want the data there, but I don't wanna discourage the residents who are really [1:40:06, 1:40:10]: wanting to pursue this'cause it takes a lot of work to go out there and collect. [1:40:11, 1:40:13]: Fifty or sixty six, that's a lot of work. [1:40:13, 1:40:31]: Well, they here's the problem with it. They they don't have to do the work until you figure out the speed. Once you figure out the speed, then they know the percentage that of the signatures that they have to get. Mm-hmm. That's so the data comes first and then they know whether or not they even qualify to even get the work done. [1:40:32, 1:40:39]: And that to me is enough within itself. It's like it gives them s a little bit of ammunition. [1:40:40, 1:40:56]: But not only that, it seems reasonable. I know that some cer uh uh everybody's not blessed to have a neighborhood that has the circle roundabouts to break up the the speeding. And we still hear about speeding even in my subdivision, even though we have some of the roundabouts to break that up. [1:40:57, 1:40:58]: I think that [1:40:59, 1:41:04]: you know, things can get out of hand without the data. And we do need some type of measurement. [1:41:05, 1:41:06]: Because speed bumps [1:41:07, 1:41:08]: They [1:41:08, 1:41:10]: It can become a problem. [1:41:10, 1:41:21]: Buses go across those feed bumps, you've got the police, you've got ambulances, you've got fire trucks. And I know that it also too can be for safety measures. [1:41:21, 1:41:24]: But in addition to that, sometimes overkill. [1:41:25, 1:41:31]: And we just need to be aware of that. Like it it can definitely be overkill. And so [1:41:32, 1:41:42]: When one neighbor your hood gets at one street, then the next one won it, then the next one won it, then the next one won it. And it they may not very well qualify. They might be going thirty five miles per hour. [1:41:43, 1:41:57]: And so if they get the speed traffic things done before, then you know what the requirement is to get those speed bumps. That means that they're flying across the street. But if the study shows that they're not flying, [1:41:58, 1:42:01]: Then there's no real reason to get speed bumps. [1:42:01, 1:42:02]: 'Cause they're really not blind. [1:42:03, 1:42:08]: So they're abiding by whatever that speed is or whatever the requirement is. [1:42:08, 1:42:12]: And they don't do the work until they know the average of the speed. [1:42:13, 1:42:18]: They don't do the work first, they do the work they go get the petitions after they get the average. [1:42:18, 1:42:28]: There's a process and the play that will come in place first. Somebody provided notice. So what do they do? Okay. We're gonna go and measure speed. If they're speeding, okay. [1:42:28, 1:42:30]: Hono homeowner association president. [1:42:31, 1:42:46]: It says here, you're right, they are speeding. So now you need to go and get a petition. Or we're automatically going to provide speed bumps to you because of X, Y, and Z speed. Or, you know, so I think that it's the checks and balances instead of just taking people's word for it. [1:42:47, 1:42:52]: 'Cause then you have different streets getting speed bumps. And I just think that we need to [1:42:53, 1:43:01]: be a little bit more aware of that. I don't s I I go into subdivisions up north. We always want to compare up north. I don't see speedrums in no subdivision like that. [1:43:01, 1:43:05]: I mean it it can cause some problems, right? Um [1:43:05, 1:43:15]: You go to Eagles Landing, you might see one or two over this little hump thing when you first coming in or you going but you're not gonna see speed bumps. Not everywhere. Right, you're not. It takes away. [1:43:15, 1:43:18]: It really does. And so I think that [1:43:18, 1:43:20]: We need to be mindful of that. [1:43:21, 1:43:24]: Um and plus be mindful of our resources. [1:43:25, 1:43:26]: All right. [1:43:26, 1:43:46]: That's just my opinion. All right. Any other comments? If not, I need a motion to accept this uh city star break speed bump policy update that Mr. Aaron wants to do. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Okay, from Ms. Canton Ms. I was in our arm fair, please indicate. Okay, you nasty season. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Announcements, announcements up. [1:43:46, 1:44:06]: Upcoming meeting events. 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    --- title: Community Zoning Information Meeting date: 2024-11-06 source: 2024-11-06_Community_Zoning_Information_Meeting.wav --- [0:03:38, 0:03:43]: Good evening everyone. I apologize for the delay. [0:03:43, 0:04:03]: I am Kedra Jackson, the chief planner with the Planning and Zoning Department. And I'm going to turn this way to talk to you. A little awkward, but we're going to make it work. Tonight is the community zoning information meeting. This is an informal meeting to discuss upcoming cases for our November 21st. [0:04:03, 0:04:17]: Planning Commission. There is no board involved. There is no voting involved. It's just a casual conversation between the community and the applicants. And if you have any questions for staff, we are here to answer those for you. [0:04:17, 0:04:31]: We do have the applications folders and files to all of the cases you will will hear tonight. So if you want to take a look at those, you may. So with that stated, we'll get started. [0:04:35, 0:04:52]: So uh as I stated before, I'm Keydre Jackson with the Planning and Zoning Division. Tonight here we have Linda Logan, the senior planner, and Gordon Linton, also senior planner. Our director is Ryan Anderson. [0:04:52, 0:05:12]: So let's go over some rules and regulations. As I stated, this is an informal meeting, no board involved. So there's no need to object or, you know, rebuttal um any comments. It's a relaxed meeting. Um we understand that some development does cause emotion or, you know, some passion. [0:05:12, 0:05:32]: And so we ask that you, you know, just remain calm and we can talk to each other with harmony and get our questions answered without, you know, attacking the applicant. The applicant is here to do a development and we're here to, you know, preserve and protect our community. But at the same time, I think we all have a [0:05:32, 0:05:46]: common goal. So we just ask that, you know, everyone that have questions, you can talk to your applicant with, you know, respect and and um definitely we'll get those questions answered for you. [0:05:48, 0:05:53]: So with that stated, we're gonna go over the meeting, how it's set up for tonight. [0:05:59, 0:06:05]: And I'll just read from my phone here. So the first meeting will be [0:06:06, 0:06:17]: the comprehensive plan amendment and that's case CP-202403. Um right now Gordon is passing out the agendas to everyone. [0:06:20, 0:06:29]: So this comprehensive plan land use designation amendment is for the case on Brush Creek Court. [0:06:30, 0:06:43]: What they're doing is changing the designation from its current future land use designation to a low density, midst-use, medium density residential to allow for a townhome development. [0:06:46, 0:06:49]: And Gordon, I need one too. I need one. [0:06:53, 0:06:58]: Also with this case is a rezoning. The rezoning [0:07:00, 0:07:03]: And I apologize, I cannot read from here. [0:07:04, 0:07:05]: Thank you. [0:07:07, 0:07:10]: The rezoning is a consideration. [0:07:17, 0:07:25]: To rezone the property from SR suburban residential to OI. This is not correct. [0:07:32, 0:07:33]: I don't know [0:07:36, 0:07:50]: That's not the okay yeah. Let me just read from here. So it's a consideration of a rezoning to rezone parcel S07-010-060. [0:07:51, 0:08:10]: On the east side of Brush Creek Court, from C2, which is general commercial, to MFR, multi- multiple family residential, to allow for a townhome development. The applicant is Pivotal Enterprise LLC in care of Battle Law, PC. [0:08:11, 0:08:18]: The property is located on landlot 59, District 12, and it contains 2.28 acres. [0:08:20, 0:08:40]: The next case we will hear tonight is a comprehensive land plan amendment, CP-2024-07. This comprehensive land use change will um change the designation of four parcels on the south side of Davis Road as [0:08:40, 0:08:55]: identified below in your agendas if you have the full agenda. The property is for the purpose of allowing a self-storage warehouse development. The property owner is [0:08:57, 0:09:05]: B1 Home Improvement LLC, and the agents are Robert Nespit and Rogers Gaudier. [0:09:05, 0:09:13]: The property is located in Landlot 71, District 12, and it contains approximately 6.895 acres. [0:09:14, 0:09:21]: And in your agenda there are the parcel information as well as the address and parcel number. [0:09:23, 0:09:43]: The next case we will hear is a rezoning case, RZ-2024-08. And this also accompany the comprehensive land use language I just read to you. Here, along with the land use change, they're asking to rezone the property from SR. [0:09:43, 0:09:44]: Or [0:09:45, 0:09:52]: an OI to C3 Heavy Commercial to allow for the self-storage warehouse development. [0:09:52, 0:09:59]: the applicant information is still the same and it relates to the four parcels listed in your agenda. [0:10:02, 0:10:06]: The next case, and this is case number five. [0:10:08, 0:10:13]: It's a rezoning RZ dash twenty twenty-four dash zero nine. [0:10:14, 0:10:16]: This is located in district two. [0:10:16, 0:10:30]: The applicant here is seating seeking to rezone parcel 013-0101-8000 on the east side of Black Hall Road. [0:10:30, 0:10:33]: It's south of Walt Stevens Road. [0:10:33, 0:10:37]: It is currently zone SR, which is suburban residential. [0:10:38, 0:10:44]: And the applicant is seeking to rezone the property to RR, which is rural residential. [0:10:46, 0:11:06]: to allow for a subdivided lot. Property owners, there are several property owners. The applicant is AP Property Solutions, LLC. The agent is Sibley Miller Surveying and Planning Incorporated. This property is located in landlot 24. [0:11:06, 0:11:12]: District 12 and it contains approximately 4.849 acres. [0:11:16, 0:11:31]: The next two cases listed on the agenda will not be heard tonight. Um the applicant is seeking some amendments to the site plan so we will um entertain the zoning um [0:11:32, 0:11:39]: agenda for that at the next meeting and we will uh rezon I'm sorry, we will um [0:11:41, 0:11:47]: l relisted as a legal ad with the correct information. So we will announce that when that comes up. [0:11:48, 0:11:50]: So with that stated [0:11:52, 0:12:09]: We're going to get into the zoning process. So for those of you that do not understand the zoning process, I'm just going to give you a snippet or how it works. So normally when a developer wants to do a development in the city, they set up a [0:12:09, 0:12:24]: pre-application meeting with staff and in that meeting they're presenting their project to us. Staff is providing comments and um in relation to the zoning, future land use designations. [0:12:24, 0:12:44]: You know, we're talking about design layout, et cetera. Um, if there are conditions from a previous rezoning, we're providing that information to you as well. And those previous conditions could affect the development. Um, if one is wanting to make some changes to the previous approved conditions, you may have to go. [0:12:44, 0:12:49]: go for zoning modification. So with that stated, once those [0:12:49, 0:13:05]: um issues are addressed and you're ready to submit, we have application deadlines and one would need to submit their application deadline to get on the agenda. So here, all of you are here met that application deadline. [0:13:05, 0:13:25]: You satisfy the application process, and that places you here tonight for CZIM. After this meeting, then you move to planning commission meeting, and there you have five members that will make a recommendation to the city council on whether they want to approve, deny, or derive. [0:13:25, 0:13:29]: [810.0, 830.0]: Decision by that board is not a final decision. The final decision will come from mayor and council. At the mayor and council, they will decide if they want to continue your case, deny the case, or approve it. And they also have the autonomy to add conditions, more conditions, if staff place conditions. [0:13:50, 0:14:00]: on it, they can add more conditions to your case or amend our conditions. So this is just a chart to show the zoning process of how that works. [0:14:02, 0:14:04]: Does anyone have any questions that's power? [0:14:05, 0:14:22]: This is just an informational meeting and if I want to know more about what's going on from a from a residential or resident standpoint, would it be better when we go to the next meeting? Or or is this just more [0:14:24, 0:14:30]: So to sh be sure I understand your your concern has nothing to do with the cases tonight. [0:14:30, 0:14:35]: Only just running information on one process. Uh not come back with a [0:14:36, 0:14:46]: Okay. Um you can speak to either Linda or Gordon, they can assist you. Or if you see your applicant, you can speak to Hemahart directly. [0:14:47, 0:14:58]: Sure. You can get your information tonight or if you want to go to the next meeting, of course, we would love for you to come to the meetings to further ask questions. It's a public hearing. [0:15:02, 0:15:13]: Yes, so after I'm done with this slide, I'm gonna open it up to the applicant so they can now present their case to you. Okay. [0:15:15, 0:15:21]: Here is the schedule of our community zoning information meetings, the [0:15:21, 0:15:40]: Tonight is November 6th, of course. So after this meeting will be December 4th and then January 2nd, 2025. Um and then we'll will um present the new calendar for 2025 and it will have the schedule for both planning commission as well as um city council. [0:15:43, 0:15:51]: So with that stated, we can go ahead and get into the first case. So again, the first case is battle law. [0:15:51, 0:16:01]: for Brush Creek Court. Um they will be presenting the comprehensive plan rezoning and zoning modification. I'll open the floor to you. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: I sent a PowerPoint over. [0:16:21, 0:16:23]: I said I sent a PowerPoint over. [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: I sent it to you all this afternoon. [0:16:31, 0:16:33]: Thank you. [0:16:38, 0:16:39]: Right. [0:16:40, 0:16:42]: Oh there. [0:16:42, 0:16:45]: Well you just added up. I did. Okay. Okay to see. [0:16:49, 0:16:50]: Okay. [0:17:03, 0:17:05]: How about that? [0:17:06, 0:17:20]: All right, my name is Michelle Battle. I'm here with Battle Law. Um, we are gonna talk about the Brush Creek Court um project. Um before I start, is there anybody here specifically for that project that has any specific questions regarding it? [0:17:21, 0:17:41]: No? Well okay, we'll just move on through. Um so the property um that we're talking about here is located off of Brush Creek Um Court, um right near the intersection of um uh North Henry Boulevard, um where the Quick Trip and the Waffle House are located as you move up uh [0:17:41, 0:17:45]: Um into the site. We are off on the right hand side. [0:17:48, 0:18:08]: Property currently has a zoning designation for commercial development as well as a land use designation for low density mixed use. We are asking to amend the comp plan in order to allow for residential development up to eight units per. [0:18:08, 0:18:23]: per acre. So we are seeking a modification to medium density residential, which is consistent with the property that lies behind, that also has a land use designation of medium density residential. [0:18:26, 0:18:46]: Um Brush Creek Commons was actually approved. I think back in like two thousand and four, two thousand and five, at that time, there was a development agreement that was put into place that governs along with the zoning for the property for the development of a forty-one year. [0:18:46, 0:19:06]: Unit townhome community. That community has no access to Shields Road. It has a lot of terrain and environmentally sensitive issues around the perimeter of the site, but it also included amenity areas that are located along. [0:19:06, 0:19:26]: uh the corridor of Brush Creek Commons. Um the applicant is seeking to rezone this 2.28 acre oops, sorry, moving too fast. In order to allow it to be phase two of the overall project, which is what you see. [0:19:26, 0:19:46]: The above, so you can see how the two will interplay. These 41 units will be rear entry units based on how it was approved back in 2004, and then with some modifications in 2022. This portion being phase two. [0:19:46, 0:20:06]: Two, we are seeking to have uh 20 units on that phase. The overall density when combined will be at 3.39 units per acre. It's a process that we have to go through between the comp plan change and then also seeking the rezoning to the MFR. [0:20:06, 0:20:26]: our zoning district from C2 to allow for phase two to be added into the overall Brush Creek Commons community. They will be sharing the amenity areas that are located throughout the site. As you can see going into Brush Creek, there [0:20:26, 0:20:46]: There are amenities and this picture is so small I cannot tell you what it says right there. Um but um there's gazebos and other amenities along this portion of the project. I don't think you can see my cursor moving there. Um and then we're on again the opposite side. Um there's [0:20:46, 0:21:06]: Some guest parking. There are 20 units with front entry, these being front entry units. These are the elevations that are proposed. They will have two car garages with two car parking pad in the front of each unit. We think this is very stylish. [0:21:06, 0:21:23]: Um it's a three story product and we believe that that is uh in alignment with the direction that um the city has been going in terms of providing a variety of townhome product um within the community. And that's all I have for this evening. [0:21:26, 0:21:28]: Did anybody have any questions? [0:21:30, 0:21:31]: Okay. Well thank you. [0:21:49, 0:22:03]: Thank you, Ms. Battle. Um at this time, if you have any questions for her, you're more than welcome to speak to her. Um if you would like to look at the applications, you're more than welcome to see staff to review those documents. [0:22:16, 0:22:20]: So with that stated, we'll go to the next case. [0:22:23, 0:22:26]: And the next case before us will be [0:22:29, 0:22:48]: A comprehensive plan amendment as well as a rezoning for six four nine, six five seven, and six eight one Davis Road and for parcel number S05-08006000 on Davis Road. [0:26:38, 0:26:58]: For your patience tonight. The last case we will hear tonight is a rezoning for the consideration of a subdivision lot. This is parcel number zero zero one three-zero one zero one eight zero zero zero. [0:26:58, 0:27:06]: On the east side of Black Hall Road, you may come up to present your case. Thank you. [0:27:45, 0:27:46]: Oh. [0:32:22, 0:32:25]: Thank you. [0:32:26, 0:32:32]: Um they would need to meet Henry County Water Authority's um regulations. [0:32:34, 0:32:34]: I'm sorry. [0:32:36, 0:32:45]: Right, n not right now. So in order to get water service there, they will have to install their own meters and pay water impact fees. [0:32:49, 0:32:56]: So no, actually what they're gonna do is rezone the property to R R Rule Residential and then do septic. [0:32:58, 0:32:59]: Right. [0:32:59, 0:33:03]: Right. So that's that's the reasoning for the R R. [0:33:22, 0:33:23]: Yeah, [0:34:36, 0:34:41]: Planning staff, thank you for coming out tonight. Do does anyone else have any other questions? [0:34:43, 0:34:44]: Okay. [0:34:45, 0:35:05]: Well, great. If you have questions later on after tonight, you're more than welcome to contact staff to ask of any questions dealing with cases on this agenda. This case will go before the Planning Commission on November 21st. And that meeting starts at 6:30 p.m. here in the city council chamber. [0:35:05, 0:35:25]: Chambers. And then after that meeting, the cases will move to mayor and city council on December 9th at 6 p.m. Also in the City Council Chambers. We thank you for attending tonight and we look forward to you coming to our meetings and of course getting more involved in our [0:35:25, 0:35:28]: community discussions. Thank you. Have a great night. [0:35:36, 0:35:36]: Okay.
  • 2024-10-29 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session Meeting

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    --- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2024-10-29 source: 2024-10-29_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:03]: You said that I'm to object it to nobody said. Let me just say. [0:00:04, 0:00:04]: Well. [0:00:06, 0:00:09]: Well, I made it in the sort of [0:00:14, 0:00:14]: Okay. [0:00:26, 0:00:41]: Ready? Okay. Good deal. All right, here we go, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to call our council meeting uh to order, council work session meeting to order. I have seven oh nine. This is uh October twenty ninth, twenty twenty four. And invocation would be this uh councilman Alexander, please. [0:00:42, 0:00:44]: Let everyone bow your heads, please. [0:00:45, 0:01:05]: Our Father who dart in heaven, your watchful eye over us today. Help us to make the decisions that we're about to make judiciously, wisely, in the way that you would have us go. Keep a special eye on America today. Let's have a special prayer that you would have us go in the way that you would have us go. [0:01:05, 0:01:23]: making the decisions for the betterment of America today, as we have millions heading to the polls to make the decisions to determine the outcome of what America is to be. Have it be the way that you would, in your covering, in your time, and in the ways that you would have us go. Amen. [0:01:23, 0:01:37]: Amen. Came to a pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, honor God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:38, 0:01:40]: Madam Clerk, we'll call please. [0:01:44, 0:01:44]: Present. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: Present. [0:01:59, 0:02:03]: Thank you, Madam Clerk, appreciate it. Councilman Thomas, I believe you have an amendment to the agenda. [0:02:05, 0:02:08]: Mayor and Council, I move [0:02:08, 0:02:27]: To remove agenda consent agenda item three. The youth council has requested that the consent agenda item three be removed from the agenda, noting the youth council will participate in the city's holiday festival event on Friday, December the 6th. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Is there a second to that please? Ms. Gantt second the offer you please indicate. [0:02:32, 0:02:34]: Okay, good deal. Appreciate that. Uh [0:02:34, 0:02:54]: Passes unanimously. Now I need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. So moved. Okay, sir. Second. I second. From Ms. Mr. Thomas, Ms. Gand. All favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. It passes. Okay, so council, look before uh before you had a review of the minutes, uh review of the minutes of October 14th, 2024 council meeting, and uh we'll go ahead and take a [0:02:54, 0:03:03]: look at those if it's any changes, uh let the uh clerk know that and we'll may approve those at our next uh regular council meeting. Uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:03:05, 0:03:05]: Yeah. [0:03:05, 0:03:07]: Willie Carter has come. [0:03:09, 0:03:14]: Okay. Gentlemen, uh we have a public comment coming forward. He's gonna need to pull it in. [0:03:28, 0:03:28]: Okay. [0:03:30, 0:03:34]: Kenny can let the gentleman come through, you gentlemen let let Willie Carter come forward. Come on. [0:03:35, 0:03:40]: Come on, Willie. Uh come on up, get a name what the mic. Mic should be on. Name and address, please. [0:03:42, 0:03:49]: Good evening. Thank you. Um your name and address please. Uh Willie Carter, 123 Wilson Avenue, City of Stockbridge. [0:03:49, 0:04:05]: Okay, good. What's what's I'm saying, mine, sir? Uh the the the question is I tried to ascertain this here from um um Aaron uh at at the Department of Water, but that was a failed attempt. Um my understanding there was a faulty or misreading of the register. [0:04:06, 0:04:26]: of the register or the water meters uh from the city. I think uh my understanding that the that r uh tech from PMI said it's been going on for a while. But the question of my concern was again, I couldn't ascertain this from Aaron. I or any other residents, especially in the MLK uh trail community. [0:04:26, 0:04:30]: community uh didn't receive any notice of the faulty equipment. [0:04:32, 0:04:43]: Okay. We'll have to check into that this city manager's gonna have to well since you didn't get a hold of Mr. Dusty Sarin, uh we'll have the city managers gonna have to review this and get back to you with the with the the answer and try to sort of solve this for you. [0:04:44, 0:05:04]: And be the time frame for that answer. I would I would say today is what, uh Tuesday? Give a couple days, get back to you with that. Um okay, a couple days. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Um, Madam Clerk, that's the only public comment tonight? Yes, sir. Okay. Uh Council, we have before us a consent agenda. Council of consideration approved the use of the [0:05:04, 0:05:13]: the Merle Manders Conference Center lower level for the Main Street programs Thanksgiving Charity Community Dinner on Friday, November 15th. Presented by Mr. Gardner. [0:05:14, 0:05:16]: Presenting this? I'll say consent. Okay. [0:05:17, 0:05:27]: Consent agenda. So council I guess if you don't have any questions, we can go ahead and vote on this. Okay, any any questions? No questions? All right. Yes, sir. [0:05:32, 0:05:49]: All right. Is there a second? Second. Okay, from uh Thomas to Alexander, all favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Unanimous decision. Okay, what's next, gentlemen? Is uh and council, I'm sorry. We got a uh presentation, public uh private partnership district representation and ordinance. I believe that's you, Mr. Gardner. [0:05:50, 0:05:51]: Oh [0:05:51, 0:05:52]: City Attorney. [0:05:52, 0:05:56]: Two turrets. All right. [0:06:05, 0:06:11]: Maybe. Do you guys have a copy of a presentation in your pocket? No, we do I no, I don't see it in here. [0:06:15, 0:06:20]: Wait, wait. Why is you talking? You can switch. [0:06:21, 0:06:41]: So, Mayor and Council, thank you. We have a couple of folks that are here that would present to you all, but we're requesting that there be an an ordinance that we go ahead and pass, which would be a special service district that we then report back to you on because we'll call it right now the entire city, but it would exclude [0:06:40, 0:07:00]: All homestead units and all residential units, and we want to create the district now. And if we create the district now, as part of the public-private partnerships, we'll be able to then come back to you all with more clarity on what the district can look like, but also and how it can be used, the public-private partnerships to further the [0:07:00, 0:07:18]: the city goals with the projects that you all want to do. And so one of the leaders in this has been John Ernst from the former mayor of Brookhaven. And Ed Wall is also our financial advisor. And so we brought both of them here to talk to you all kind of briefly about it. And [0:07:18, 0:07:30]: Nope. So nope. And so we brought we brought them here to kinda talk to you all about. And so at this time I'll just pass the floor over to them. But what we're going to be asking is for you all to [0:07:30, 0:07:47]: pass the ordinance and there's a exclusion that we'll put in it that will exclude so that we're clear all residential and and homestead units and that the Earnst Legal Group will also be a part of the team that will help to create this based on their prior experience. [0:07:48, 0:07:49]: Okay, appreciate that. [0:07:52, 0:07:52]: Thank you, sir. [0:07:53, 0:07:55]: Gentlemen, please. [0:07:56, 0:08:11]: Thank you, uh Attorney Washington. Uh good evening, Mayor and Council. How y'all doing? So, uh I want to introduce John Ertz. He's a good friend of mine, former client, mayor of Brookhaven. I was financial advisor to Mayor, uh to Brookhaven since they were founded and um [0:08:12, 0:08:13]: Um [0:08:13, 0:08:19]: Uh they hired a city manager from Ohio. All their hotels have thirty six hotels. They created a special tax district [0:08:19, 0:08:22]: just for the hotels to finance their their conference center. [0:08:22, 0:08:42]: Um Hapeville created a special tax district with just their hotels just to finance a new pumper truck for their fire department. And so a special tax district's provision in the Georgia Constitution allows you all, mayor and council or a county board of commissioners, to create all kinds of special tax districts if you want to to fund. [0:08:42, 0:08:46]: Clayton County uses a fire district to fund its fire department. [0:08:47, 0:08:54]: And so you all have a millage rate um that you implemented and you hadn't had one for twenty five, thirty years, just three point seven seven mills. [0:08:55, 0:09:15]: And your residents are sensitive to that. And so you want to do all kinds of public-private partnerships, and you don't want to tax your residents in order to get that done. And this special tax district, Mayor Ernst, reached out to me as uh as a thought process that Stockbridge could use it. He knows Bill de St. Alban as well. And um I [0:09:15, 0:09:28]: I thought it was a great idea. I introduced him to Mr. Gardner. I introduced him to Mr. Quentin Washington. They've known each other for years as well. And I wanted him to tell you about how he used the special tax tax district in Brookhaven and then talk a little bit about the mechanics. [0:09:28, 0:09:41]: Mayor. Thank you. Thank you, Ed. Yes. It's it was a pleasure working with you uh back in Brookhaven. Um it you know, it's glad that we uh were able to become friends even while we uh you no longer work for Brookhaven. [0:09:41, 0:09:54]: But I'm here to talk about special service districts. A special service district is something in the Constitution. They're called special districts in the Constitution. But there's a special district service district is how they're usually called. [0:09:54, 0:10:06]: And they're a entity, they're not a city, they're not a county, they formed by the city council uh or a county co um commission to create a district to provide services. [0:10:06, 0:10:08]: in that district's area. [0:10:09, 0:10:25]: What that the makeup of that is up to you, the policy body of the city. What's in, what's out will be end up what you guys end up deciding. Um the the district um can do any service that the uh local government can do. [0:10:27, 0:10:29]: The district doesn't have to actually be contiguous. [0:10:30, 0:10:38]: And the district itself could uh eliminate properties like your uh city attorney was talking about, uh homesteaded properties. [0:10:39, 0:10:45]: So who have used these special service districts? It's it's been something that's in the constitution for years. [0:10:46, 0:10:48]: But it's been and it's been used. [0:10:48, 0:10:57]: Um, in a lot of ways, you know, the f a special fire district or s something like that. It's what people, you know, they call them those type of things. Those are special districts. [0:10:57, 0:10:59]: And so what um [0:11:00, 0:11:20]: So the Belt Line was one of the first, you know, the Atlanta Beltline is a special service district. For years upon years, they had planned, they had taxed, they'd done they had planned all around to try to get uh the the belt line built. And then they placed a special service district around the belt line and was able to f to to be able to get that project completed. [0:11:21, 0:11:21]: On [0:11:23, 0:11:30]: Say at Brookhaven did a very similar thing. We created a special service district that was just uh commercial properties. [0:11:31, 0:11:44]: Did not include any homesteaded properties whatsoever. And provided uh we wanted to build our new city hall that's being built, was pr paid for by that. Uh parks were being paid by that, pathways were being paid by that. [0:11:44, 0:11:51]: And it's gonna be up to you guys what your policies and your um goals are. [0:11:52, 0:11:56]: That this special service district can be uh can help uh [0:11:56, 0:11:58]: Provide these services. [0:11:59, 0:11:59]: Um [0:12:00, 0:12:02]: Special service districts. [0:12:02, 0:12:04]: Can be layered upon each other. [0:12:05, 0:12:08]: They're not they're not mutually exclusive. You don't necessarily have just one. [0:12:08, 0:12:10]: You can have you can have multiple. [0:12:10, 0:12:20]: Uh so like I said, the Atlanta Beltline, uh Brookhaven City, when Brookhaven actually used a special service district for a new annexation area. I know you guys just had a massive annexation. [0:12:21, 0:12:33]: Well w our policy was anyone that came into our city would a special service district would be put on that land, and that's what's both commercial and residential, and funds would be spent by the city to upgrade. [0:12:34, 0:12:54]: Those roads, the city services, the stu stormwater, and that special district paid back the city over time so that my the my residents, my current residents, weren't paying for the annexed areas to bring them up to Brookhaven standards. And so those folks were very happy about that because they [0:12:54, 0:12:59]: were getting a service. They knew what they were going to get and they got a service. So we had um [0:12:59, 0:13:12]: And so Beltline, uh uh the city of Avondell States has one very similar to what we're talking about here in in Stockbridge, that is just their downtown area and their commercial base. Um and so they're [0:13:13, 0:13:24]: What we what we're gonna I think we're asking for Quinn if I'm not mistaken is to to pass it right now. Allow us because th the thing is the special service district has to be passed before the end of the year. [0:13:25, 0:13:45]: So that um that district is set up so that you can um if you choose to use it. If you choose to use it, you can begin to use it in 2025, if you pass it this year. What the proposal is that's in front of you all is to create the entire city as one and we exclude the [0:13:45, 0:13:49]: homestead as we were saying earlier, but we're going to create it. [0:13:50, 0:13:54]: Leave it there. We're going to come back to you all with [0:13:54, 0:14:01]: the extra what would be what we consider to be the true district and who it would exclude. [0:14:01, 0:14:12]: And then from there you can decide about what you want to do about the public-private partnerships and how much that would be able to use towards the projects that you want to fund. [0:14:12, 0:14:32]: And so that would be the first step in it, is just to create it so that we can then come back and have done the research to be able to present the actual numbers and the actual area throughout the city that it would be in. And then from there, what part of the proposal is that we were at least thinking about is we have [0:14:32, 0:14:52]: A separate retreat that we do where we discuss what we would want the projects and next steps to be with this, and then you all would be able to come back and decide about the area and the value that it would be for the residents and the businesses. [0:14:52, 0:14:52]: [893.1, 905.4]: Uh question. Yeah. Uh the if I under maybe I missed it. I gotta reach back and catch this. All right. This is only based on commercial properties that would be have this uh the taxing aspect of this? We're going to ask for we're going to ask for it to be yes. [0:15:05, 0:15:22]: It it w due to the where we're gonna do initially, I think the plan was just to to eliminate all non to eliminate all homesteaded properties and then we will have a map by the end of the year once we can run numbers to to to amend to that. [0:15:23, 0:15:43]: And Mayor, the property digest is up here. I don't know if y'all see it on the screen. Yes, sir. We got it. If you would look there, you can see the residential properties are a I don't know how to do it, or a billion two hundred and twenty-four million. Can you see that? Okay, yes. Look at the commercials, five hundred and forty-eight million. Industrial. [0:15:42, 0:16:02]: Is 73 million, utilities of 14 million. I think that our goal is for Mayor Ernst to do his magic since he's done it before, is to figure out how to draw a map that gets the commercial, the industrial, and the public utility and leaves a residential alone. And then figure out what would that produce. When he draws that map, what would that produce? [0:16:02, 0:16:08]: produce as far as revenue to help you create all this development in public private partnership. [0:16:08, 0:16:23]: And it and and the service has to be whatever service you guys deem has to be in that district. That that is one requirement. So you can't, you know, tack uh you cannot create a district and then put a s a service outside of that district. Understand. So [0:16:23, 0:16:25]: So like for example the amphitheater would be in the district. [0:16:26, 0:16:26]: Okay. [0:16:27, 0:16:45]: Fantastic. Yeah. Sir uh any well sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. Anything else, sir? Thank you. No, no, no. There's th nothing else I I I noticed. Thank you for being here, Maris. And welcome once again, welcome to Stockbridgewood Community Connects, by the way. Yes, thank you. Okay. So uh questions. Okay, back here, Mr. Thomas. Go ahead, sir. Yes. Um [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: Let me get a clear understanding, um [0:16:50, 0:16:53]: I think it was suggested that we [0:16:53, 0:16:55]: include the entire city. [0:16:57, 0:16:59]: in the district in twenty twenty four. [0:17:00, 0:17:02]: Correct. Yes. And then [0:17:02, 0:17:05]: At some point in time in twenty twenty five. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: Come back and pinpoint. [0:17:08, 0:17:13]: an area that we really desire for this service project. [0:17:13, 0:17:16]: Yes. And but I'm gonna tell you why. Because [0:17:17, 0:17:37]: And looking because it does not have to be contiguous. We want to at least the way we wrote the the way we wrote the ordinances, everything would be in there, right? That would pass now. Then we would be able to come back and amend and you all would vote on the amendment about what all the exclusion what the exclusions would be after we've had time to further speak to you all at what [0:17:37, 0:17:42]: that would be either a retreat or another special call meeting or however you all would like to receive this information. [0:17:42, 0:17:45]: So is this a [0:17:45, 0:18:05]: One and done, meaning once you identify that one project, that means then you cannot come back. It does not so you could you can come back at any other time and declare an additional area. Yes, but right now we're going to have a service project. Yes, that's correct. Well right now we're going for the whole right now. [0:18:05, 0:18:16]: Now we're using the whole city. Right. Then we can have that's the maximum number. When we present you with this other information and you all present us with the concerns that you all have, that will be what we come up with is the actual map. [0:18:17, 0:18:18]: That you then come in here and vote on. [0:18:19, 0:18:30]: Once we voted on that amended map, you will know what that map would be able to leverage in terms of monies for capital projects or whatever projects that would be inside that district. But the amended map [0:18:30, 0:18:39]: Could be done before the end of 24. And whatever that map is, we could raise revenues in 25 on it. [0:18:39, 0:18:41]: If you draw a map that's citywide [0:18:42, 0:18:42]: Yeah. [0:18:42, 0:18:45]: choose sometime in twenty five to change it. [0:18:45, 0:19:03]: You can't raise revenue on that till twenty six. Mm-hmm. So you see what I'm saying? Right. So that's why that's why it's important we you know, you have to get it done by the end of this year so that you have options for twenty five. And depending on how quick we can work, we might you know, and and such. Um [0:19:04, 0:19:07]: That that amendment may by the end of the year so that you can level [0:19:07, 0:19:27]: uh levy or do anything you wish in twenty five. So that's that that's the issue. You have to and any change you make, it's the f it kind of goes into effect the following year. Okay. So my follow up question is once the particular area has been identified, what is the um [0:19:27, 0:19:36]: Buying in for those businesses, or how do we as a city, and I think I know the answer, but I just want to hear from you as an expert. [0:19:36, 0:19:56]: How do we approach those businesses in that particular area to get them to buy in because we'cause this will be an imposed tax to those businesses, correct? Well, so it it it can be a tax, it can be uh assessment, it can be a fee. Uh you do it. [0:19:56, 0:20:16]: We we opposed uh we we did uh impose a tax ourselves and how we how we did it is we had our master plans, which you guys are you have. You have these projects that you have uh told the public that you're looking to do. And we we did a p public information campaign of the projects that we are gonna fund out of the special service district. [0:20:16, 0:20:17]: Okay. [0:20:17, 0:20:22]: And let the folks know. Um and we had [0:20:22, 0:20:27]: you know, very good response and even from the potential um [0:20:28, 0:20:32]: companies or uh property owners, you were commercial. [0:20:32, 0:20:33]: Actually [0:20:33, 0:20:53]: They we had only one person that complained out of my entire city, and that person was just happening to sell the property and messed up escrow's for that last year and and such. Um, that was one whole uh company, and that's was a$350 million uh deal. And it is we offered them a service that we were able [0:20:53, 0:20:59]: to to provide us shuttle service for a short amount of time and he was fine. [0:20:59, 0:21:11]: So but there there is there's some buy-in, but I can tell you what happens is you're gonna create value to you to your commercial properties and to your citizens in area because [0:21:11, 0:21:13]: What happens is and [0:21:13, 0:21:17]: You know, people out Bill Satan Alban, who's a architect out here, has done some planning stuff. [0:21:18, 0:21:21]: Publi private money follows public money. [0:21:21, 0:21:28]: I don't know if you guys have heard that before. I I had heard that right when I became mayor. I never heard it before. But that that and it's it's true. [0:21:29, 0:21:39]: When public money is being spent, private money will follow because they see that that folks are are investing in the community to to go up. And those the um [0:21:40, 0:21:44]: in the amount of services that we were able to provide, um [0:21:44, 0:22:04]: in that district, the the the business owners actually saw value. So we have certain things that we do. That's gonna again we're talking about the retreat and what what's important, what's not important is is part of that aspect because the thing can be tailored. And like I said, it's this is not a one-shot deal. This is just this district. You can [0:22:04, 0:22:10]: level you can put multiple districts in multiple things. So again, if you have a problem area [0:22:11, 0:22:13]: Let's say you've a stormwater problem in an area. [0:22:13, 0:22:19]: You could just do the watershed and apply it to that stormwater area. They're the the ones who benefit. [0:22:20, 0:22:24]: And so it's it's a very flexible tool, a special service district. [0:22:24, 0:22:39]: But what the hope is is that if by granting this we have those further discussions so that in twenty twenty five or even in twenty twenty four as we've been discussing the budget process et cetera, that some of the some of the [0:22:40, 0:22:48]: we could look at and possibly anticipate some of that capital being in hand in the coming years, beginning possibly even in next year. [0:22:49, 0:22:53]: All right. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, sir. Uh Mr. Alzheimer's you have a question. [0:22:54, 0:23:02]: Yeah, let me just say this and uh being it very sensitive to what it is, the residential exemption would have to be in there tonight. Yeah. [0:23:03, 0:23:23]: Okay, we're not leaving here today with folks saying, Well, they could come back and hit us with this assessment and they left it up in the air. No, they need to be in here tonight. Yeah. Now we have special service districts in Henry County right now. The county implements and uses special service districts right now. The citizens pay a fire uh service district. [0:23:22, 0:23:42]: district to the county because we don't have our own police department. So I mean our own fire department we have our own police. So we don't have to pay the service district for that. So uh that's my first thing that now you saying that uh I just want to understand this clearly is that the map does not have to be contiguous. So pretty much we'd be isolating on a lot of commercial [0:23:42, 0:24:02]: Uh in particular areas, my district in the south side of the city. Are you in implying that if we that special service district for the whole city can be used in any of those areas non-contiguous, or does it have to be used in that specific area where it's collected at? So so the theory is a good idea. [0:24:02, 0:24:22]: The idea is I I can't imagine a a scenario, you know, talking to your attorney and and and and your city manager in which this current map that is being proposed is going to be used in term uh in until we amend this map. Um all I can tell you is a is a full um [0:24:23, 0:24:25]: as a full uh what's it called um [0:24:27, 0:24:44]: Yeah, regulation is that the sir the service has to be in the district. So if the map if the map is drawn and there's the property or whatever is going or the service that is being provided by the city has to be provided it has to be within the full of the city. [0:24:45, 0:25:05]: Well the district as you describe it is the whole commer city commercial area. Right. So it would just need to be spent somewhere correct inside the city commercial area. It couldn't be spent in the residential area because we have excluded those. Yes, yes. So so to make sure that citizens understand there's no additional tax coming for [0:25:05, 0:25:18]: No. Because they are homesteaded and prevented from being taxed under this. Yes. Correct. Under what we're going what I would vote for tonight. Correct. All right, thank you. And we were we were talking about that language just before we came up. So [0:25:18, 0:25:26]: Residential and homesteader. Oh right. Ms. Gand, go ahead please. Single family, not residential. Because I I want I I don't want apartments included with that. [0:25:27, 0:25:31]: Okay, so you want it I d did are y'all seeing apartments too? [0:25:31, 0:25:37]: I mean the renters gotta pay the rent. The the renters are gonna pay it. So Well I'm saying I I know renters have to pay rent. [0:25:37, 0:25:38]: But [0:25:38, 0:25:56]: Right now, I'm thinking I don't think it's about the rent. I don't think we're taxing renters on their rent. I don't know what what this is gonna entail. There's not any type of taxing or assessment happening right now. No assessment or anything. Yeah, I definitely don't agree with that. This is just this is just creation. [0:25:56, 0:26:02]: Like if there's going to be an assessment, you all will meet and decide what that is. But but we can go ahead and exclude now. [0:26:02, 0:26:21]: But there's not anything coming for with there's not a ask from us right now of anything that would come to be an assessment or a levy on anybody in the city. This is just the creation. This is not the actual usage or implementation. I I wouldn't want to um levy taxes on them or anything. I don't I don't want to talk about tax period. I don't even want that term. It's not even about that. [0:26:21, 0:26:30]: It's not a tax. I it's definitely not for me. I but in regards to just a special district in general. [0:26:31, 0:26:31]: Um [0:26:32, 0:26:52]: Mm multifamily to me is different. It has a different ownership. Right. And it it has a a different impact. Right. Um, that's why we have the impact different things. So let me know. I just want I'm I know we don't have any regulations. We can always scale back later. Yeah. But for now, just to be safe, I don't want to exclude something. [0:26:52, 0:27:12]: and then come back and bite me later. I definitely want to exclude real estate, I mean single family residential. Yeah. Both, both. Not just homestead, just res single family residential, period. You can claim it homestead, but they're renters in single family. That's people who own their properties. They're they're single family. [0:27:12, 0:27:32]: Dwellings. There's a difference. You got homestead exempters, and then you got second homes, you got investment homes. I don't want those included. I I that's my take on all single family residential. Single family residential. Gotcha. Okay. All right. And again, Alexander, I get what I'm gonna just say this and I'm gonna say this. It is not [0:27:32, 0:27:52]: and contradictory is just belief and theory. The owners of the apartment complex don't pay it. They put it in the rent. Oh I know. I'm not sure what it's just Well I you know, this this is fascinating because when I we created our sprook everyone, we had this exact same discussion. Yeah. Oh. Oh with this exact same discussion. And what was it out? [0:27:52, 0:28:08]: And the outcome is we did put all um all um apartments into it, into the district. And what has and what we had seen is our rent rates are not affected by um by taxes. [0:28:09, 0:28:12]: So when the city of Brookhaven became a city. [0:28:12, 0:28:23]: Two-thirds of um the commercial properties uh sorry, the commercial properties got a two-thirds hair uh haircut. They pay two-thirds less city taxes than they were previously paying when DeCab County. [0:28:23, 0:28:34]: During that time, between now, between then and the time we created the city, uh, the special tax district, the rent rates went up close to a hundred and twenty percent. [0:28:35, 0:28:36]: with a lower taxes. [0:28:37, 0:28:44]: Ta rate rental rates, and again, it's a policy decision, and I understand, but rental rates is just solely directed by what the market is. [0:28:45, 0:28:48]: If the landlord can charge more money, they're going to charge more money. [0:28:49, 0:29:09]: And it wasn't affected by it does it does it doesn't affect them what the what the taxes what or w whatever um s uh remediation they have to give to a city does not overly affect their rental rates. It didn't show it at least in Brookhaven, I've seen in multiple other places that's where that's not the case. [0:29:09, 0:29:29]: But again, that is a policy decision that you you do you have that discussion. I would, you know, err on the s the safety of of just just doing the single family and the homestead of properties and and and then come back and have that discussion later because that that that is a very popular and and in in [0:29:29, 0:29:37]: We'll be able to see with the map what does that do? What does that change do? But you know, a prime example, you know, how this came out in my own head was. [0:29:38, 0:29:58]: The CIDs. We have CIDs. I don't know if you guys have a CID around. Um, they were able to um they l levy a millage rate and it was buy-in from the the the property owners. Um and but they cannot levy to on any residential property whatsoever. And so that area was getting a lot of benefits. [0:29:58, 0:30:18]: benefit that property owner was getting a lot of benefit of the investment that was going on in the CID, but they weren't paying anything into it. And there's an equity issue there that you know where the the true value is coming from. But these are great policy discussions. I'm sure I'm gonna have these discussions with you if this go, you know, we to go through uh going forward to try to [0:30:18, 0:30:21]: Try to to make sure your will is is being done. [0:30:21, 0:30:41]: Well that was my next question was what's the difference between this and a C I D? It sounded very similar to a C I D. I didn't think that it was um, you know, anything um but it seems like there are different options in re as in regards to services, possibly or potentially. But we have Eagles Eagles and have you you guys have an association, correct? [0:30:41, 0:30:46]: Okay, and it acts similar. Well it changes the rhythm. [0:30:46, 0:31:03]: Oh yeah, but we don't want that. But I'm just saying tax like I'm I'm for the record and for always the record, I am not for taxes. I just am not. But that's just me. So again, you know, the the buy in from my community, I I could just say once you know, obviously there's always gonna be some folks who are [0:31:04, 0:31:24]: against government having any revenue. That's just nature of the beast. But you know, once they realized that, you know, it is um is being paid for by the the property owners, a commercial property, and hence by the people that come into your city, very similar to sales tax, you hear that that that term all the time. [0:31:24, 0:31:38]: that 70% of the sales tax is paid by outsiders. Well the commercial property is that same thing. Those people are coming into your city using your services and and not paying any of the taxes, but the those commercial properties is where it can can come in. [0:31:39, 0:31:40]: Any other questions? [0:31:41, 0:32:01]: Timelines. You mentioned um 2024. So here we are in November. Um the process. Um do we need to vote tonight? Yes. Okay. And so and so [0:32:01, 0:32:05]: So from from the vote, what happens from the vote? [0:32:06, 0:32:20]: From the vote, what'll happen is that per the ordinance we have, we would we're going to make sure that it's amended to have excluding all single family residential and all homesteaded properties. And [0:32:21, 0:32:26]: That's going to be that's going to be the creation of the map that's attached in the ordinance that you all have. [0:32:26, 0:32:28]: And that would be it. Then after that. [0:32:29, 0:32:49]: We're going to on the operation side work with you all and the city manager about when we're going to come together, about next steps with this for the what the map you all actually want it to be, if you want to change from there, and what the power of the district would be for the capital. [0:32:49, 0:32:57]: Projects that you all want to raise against. Could I interrupt too? So you would bring this back at the at the next meeting if we vote tonight. [0:32:57, 0:33:12]: Well no, what what what happens you would have you would have given clearance for the entire city, excluding all single family residential and all homesteads. So w we wouldn't have to rush for the for the rest of the year. We could in in twenty twenty five, then we [0:33:12, 0:33:32]: Right. Then y'all have a discussion about how y'all want to use it. You will have it, but then y'all have a separate discussion when you all wanna use it. So what if we vote tonight in twenty twenty four, we'll set and then we'll come back in twenty twenty five and then lay it out. Yes. Okay. So Councilman Thomas, the w one addition to that. [0:33:32, 0:33:51]: But I would like y'all tonight to also engage Mayor Ernst to help draw the maps that would exclude the single family and the things that he talked about. He works with the GIS at the county and the city and figures out how to draw all those maps up. And so tonight, once y'all approve this, it's like a placeholder. [0:33:52, 0:34:00]: And then he does his work, draws the maps, come back to you and says, Here's the map, and here's what the value of the property is. [0:34:01, 0:34:12]: And he gives you options, maybe option A, option B. When he draws the map, not only does he have to figure out how to draw it and which property goes in it, but he's got to include the areas you wanna spend the money to. [0:34:12, 0:34:24]: And so um I need y'all tonight to authorize us to engage him to draw the maps. And then the next step we bring him back down to you and discuss the maps, maybe retreat, like Attorney Washington said. [0:34:24, 0:34:31]: So you're talking about one motion or combined or two mo two separate motions? Just one motion. Okay. All right. There's no other questions then, council, I need a motion then. [0:34:33, 0:34:34]: Some [0:34:34, 0:34:35]: Okay. [0:34:35, 0:34:41]: Okay, and this is in reference to going forward and having the mayor join us in this process, is that right? [0:34:41, 0:35:01]: Inclusive of Mayor this is the recommendation as council has approved the special service district, inclusive of the representative um uh Mr. Ernst as described by Mr. Wall. All right, so you made a motion and Mr. Also excluding all homestead properties. Excluding all homestead single family properties and homes [0:35:01, 0:35:17]: homestead uh in this particular motion. Okay. You made the motion and Mr. Thomas second that. Right. Okay. Mr. Washington, yeah. If you're prepared, can you read that motion and then we can start to get it recorded? Mrs. Lester. [0:35:18, 0:35:26]: So in section three in the in your notebooks, we ask for pursuant to the SSD clause. [0:35:26, 0:35:46]: There is hereby created a special district for the purpose of provision of local government services and supplemental services and facilities to be funded in whole or in part by a special improvement assessment, therein to be known as Stockbridge Special Service District or Stockbridge SSD, the boundaries which will be coextensive with the boundaries of the city, excluding all single family. [0:35:46, 0:35:47]: Yeah. [0:35:48, 0:35:51]: And all homesteaded residences. [0:35:52, 0:36:07]: It will also employ Ernst Legal Group to create the maps and then report back to city council about input on selecting the final maps and the power of the assessments they want the district to have. [0:36:08, 0:36:28]: Mm. Mayor Ford, do do we have any unreadiness? Uh well here's the thing. Well, I was gonna ask for a qu I was gonna ask for further discussion. So otherwise that's the motion that's been made seconded and and put in the record. So it is some uh discussion. Ms. Grant has some discussion here. I I had I do. I have a question. How how much is this gonna cost to draw the map and where's the money coming from? [0:36:28, 0:36:35]: That's what we always ask w in in regards to our service. So it'll come from the general fund and and I can't imagine it would cost more than ten thousand. [0:36:36, 0:36:36]: Okay. [0:36:37, 0:36:39]: And mister Gardner, are you okay with that? [0:36:42, 0:36:45]: But do we have it in the general fund to do for that ten thousand? [0:36:46, 0:36:52]: 'Cause I I always wanna know how much things cost, right? We gotta be somewhat responsible. Can we say no more than? [0:36:53, 0:37:04]: Well I ax I guess you can do it under your allocation. I mean we're still gotta find where it comes from. Okay. Yeah. It's there, right? If it's the witch council we'll we'll find we'll look in in one of the departments and find [0:37:05, 0:37:06]: Okay. [0:37:06, 0:37:26]: All right, thank you. I know it's about me, but I have recommendation for my years of being mayor that you would would amend this to add a line if you haven't done it already, to allow uh the general fund to pay for it now and that the special service district pays for it back when it's established that you could get reimbursed at a later date so that that your general fund. [0:37:26, 0:37:28]: I like that. [0:37:29, 0:37:49]: So amended. Amend that to that add that. Thank you for that experience. That's right. You made the motion originally, so you can do that. And I doesn't need no second second from you as well on amendment. Okay. On that note, we'll What other discussion, Mayor? Yes, sir. I just want y'all to know this is a tool you're putting in your toolbox. You're not doing anything now other than creating the tool. [0:37:49, 0:37:50]: That's great. [0:37:50, 0:37:55]: Understand. Appreciate sir. So what the motion and amended motion to that will all in favor please indicate. [0:37:56, 0:38:16]: Okay, GNAP Sisters and thank you. Thank you. Mr. Earlson appreciate you. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. So on that note, announcements, upcoming meetings, and events. Okay, council meetings will be held in the city council chambers, meeting dates, location, times, the subject change, and c or contact city hall offices is 770-389-7900. [0:38:16, 0:38:36]: Or visit the website at www.stockbridgega.org for updates. U council meetings the first Monday of each month at 6 30 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, November 4th. Election Day, make sure you vote, ladies and gentlemen. Tuesday, November 5th from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Visit MVP.sos. [0:38:36, 0:38:56]: For your polling location. Community zoning and informational meeting Wednesday, November 6th, from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. City Hall. In the council chambers, November 6th there. Stockbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting, first Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. Stockbridge Police Community Room, 4545, North Henry Boulevard. [0:38:56, 0:39:16]: November 7th. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. location in Downtown Connection Center, 1:30 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, November 8th. City Council meeting special date, Tuesday, November 12th at 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers is November 12th, due to the fact that November 11th is [0:39:16, 0:39:36]: Course uh Veterans Uh Day holiday. Citywide Development Authority meeting will be canceled, has been canceled. The board will hold a retreat on February, November 15th. Location to be announced. The Downtown Development Authority meeting special date, Tuesday, November 12th at the Stockbridge Downtown Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. [0:39:36, 0:39:56]: And that's also due to the fact that uh November eleventh is an uh Veterans Day holiday. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, but this time it's gonna be six p.m. Well it's at six p.m. but this time it's gonna be in the City of Council chambers on November nineteenth. And that's due to the Thanksgiving holiday week there. Youth uh council advisory committee meeting six thirty. [0:39:56, 0:40:16]: P.M. third Tuesday of each month, the Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, November 19th. And in Planning Commission meetings on Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. in City Hall Council Chambers, and that's November 21st. Upcoming events and initiatives. Join Councilwoman Lakeisha Gantt in partnership to Atlanta Food Truck Park for the night market at the Star Brazil. [0:40:16, 0:40:22]: Theater parking lot from six PM to nine, thirty PM November seventh and November twenty first. [0:40:22, 0:40:36]: Just November seventh. Okay. Uh there will be vendors, food, trucks, activities, games, music vibes. Contact Tam Bowers at thepeachofmind at gmail dot com for registration and additional information. [0:40:39, 0:40:59]: Please join the city of Stockbridge for the annual Veterans Day luncheon, honoring the veterans on Monday, November 11th from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. in Merrill Manor's Conference Center. You got RSVP noted on November 4th at events at stopbridge.org. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, November 18th and [0:40:59, 0:41:19]: 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Stockbridge City Hall. Join Councilman Afonso Thomas in partnership with the Mayor Pro Tem Kyle Berry for the monthly senior Bingo Bash on Wednesday, November 20th, from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merrill Manos Conference Center. 111 Davis Road for Raffles, Prizes, Games, Snacks, and F. Join Councilman Elton Alezander. [0:41:19, 0:41:39]: For the District 5 Town Hall on Thursday, November 21st from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. location to be announced. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans and with a continued salute all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans with their name, branch, rank, and years of service. Councilman Thomas also will distribute free smoke detectors along. [0:41:38, 0:41:55]: along with uh Fire Marshal Demetrius Wells. Date and location be announced soon. So stay tuned for that. Join Councilman Thomas once again for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative Center around education highlighting on the cause and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information following that as well. [0:41:55, 0:41:58]: contact Rawls and Rawls to schedule an appointment with meet the mayor. [0:41:58, 0:42:08]: For more information on council initiatives and events is 678-833-3348 or by way of email, rawls at starbridgega.org. [0:42:09, 0:42:15]: Once again we're in the month of October, getting ready to go into November. So first of all, have a safe and happy Halloween. [0:42:15, 0:42:35]: Uh number two, make sure it's flu seas flu season, so make sure you get your flu shots and your COVID-19 boosters. Get updated on that. We want you to be healthy and safe during the course of the holiday season. And congratulations thus far to Atlanta Falcons for leading up the NFC South, leading that particular conference. Hopefully they'll keep it up ongoing through the season, getting the playoffs. We shall see. On that note, council. [0:42:35, 0:42:55]: So I need a motion to go to executive session to handle and deal with p uh personnel uh actions. Mayor, if I could make one comment. Yes, sir. What's that? About we did say election day is November fifth. And yes sir we certainly uh early voting continues. But there's no Saturday voting this week. There's no Sunday voting. So if you want to vote early, you gotta vote by [0:42:55, 0:43:15]: By Friday. They're at 7 to 7 every day this week in Stockbridge. That's at Merrill Manders Conference Center. The city has a couple of folks. There's a lot of things going on out there. Like we have a homestead exemption on the ballot this year that folks need to know about. And they'll determine whether or not they get the homestead credit by how they vote. [0:43:15, 0:43:35]: And certainly we have a splash that's on the ballot that will be determined. I think uh some of the things that we have on there, we have$10 million acclimated to uh the recreation multi-generational recreation center and certain other projects in the city. And if you want to see that center, [0:43:35, 0:43:55]: Certainly uh you would vote yes. If you do not, you would vote no. It's gonna be up to you whether or not we build the recreation center and numerous other projects. So thank you. Oh thank you for that up there. I appreciate that. Yes, okay, Miss Gantt. Looks like okay. All right. On that note, uh we need a uh need to go in a second session motion for that for to handle personal. [0:43:55, 0:43:58]: Okay, is there a second? [0:44:00, 0:44:07]: Circuit. Okay, so from Miss Scant to to Mr. Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. All right, so you now go into the second session. We'll be back soon. [0:44:11, 0:44:11]: Okay. [0:44:15, 0:44:20]: Well I always talked about that at FPF and I don't know why I slipped my mind not to say that percent. [0:44:59, 0:45:12]: How long you go right by that mask'cause it's going around. Oh yeah, it is. It's too many. It's it's already it's already tired. My cra my crap is already there. [1:08:31, 1:08:31]: Oh. [1:08:39, 1:08:41]: Are we live? Okay. [1:08:42, 1:08:43]: All right. [1:08:45, 1:08:53]: All right, council. I need a a motion to end the second session, please. So move. I second. Okay for Mr. Berry to Miss Cannon all in favor please indicate. [1:08:54, 1:08:57]: Okay. I need a motion to reconvene or [1:08:57, 1:09:04]: Uh council, council work session. So move. From Miss Gantts okay, from Miss Gantt to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. [1:09:05, 1:09:10]: And we have nothing to report from a second session, so now I need a motion to end our council meeting. [1:09:11, 1:09:19]: Okay. Miss Gantt, okay, is there a second? Mr. Is there a second? All in favor, please indicate? All right, God bless you. Unanimous. Good night.
  • 2024-10-29 · City Council · Transcript · Urban Redevelopment Agency Meeting

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    --- title: Urban Redevelopment Agency Meeting date: 2024-10-29 source: 2024-10-29_Urban_Redevelopment_Agency_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: I think I'm like. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: Yes, I'm using one. [0:00:55, 0:00:55]: [ 75.0, 79.4]: [0:01:27, 0:01:28]: [ 90.9, 92.3]: Oh yeah. [0:01:33, 0:01:36]: Which I think I just back for. [0:01:39, 0:01:40]: Yeah. [0:01:41, 0:01:42]: Oh yeah, uh guys. [0:01:43, 0:01:43]: Right so [0:01:45, 0:01:50]: Mayor, what we got going on here? We I don't know nothing about this. [0:11:56, 0:12:02]: All right, council. We're going to what time do I have? I got se five thirty seven. [0:12:05, 0:12:07]: It's October twenty ninth. [0:12:10, 0:12:15]: And I'd like to call our URA meeting to order. [0:12:15, 0:12:16]: This evening. [0:12:18, 0:12:21]: And if we can, please stand for the invocation. [0:12:24, 0:12:44]: And I'll do it myself. Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again as we continue to do the business of our city as we as we discuss our issues and real estate matters to evolve in our URA. You as always, Lord, and continue to do the best thing for our citizens and the welfare of our community. Thank you, Lord, for being with us and guide us and control us and make sure we make the right moves. Amen. [0:12:44, 0:12:58]: Amen. All right. Pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic for which stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:12:59, 0:13:00]: Madam Clerk, Roll Call, please. [0:13:02, 0:13:03]: Good evening everyone. [0:13:04, 0:13:06]: Chair Ford Present. [0:13:09, 0:13:13]: Present. Board member Barber. Present. Board Member Berry. [0:13:13, 0:13:18]: Let the record reflect Board Member Berry is not an attendant. Board Member Gantt. [0:13:19, 0:13:20]: At the record. [0:13:24, 0:13:30]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Uh board, I uh need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:13:31, 0:13:36]: So move. Is there a second? Miss Barber s from Alexander, Miss Barber. A sec a second then all in favor, please indicate. [0:13:36, 0:13:37]: Okay, we're good there. [0:13:38, 0:13:43]: And uh now I need a motion to approve the minutes and what we have um approval of the minutes for September twenty fourth. [0:13:44, 0:13:52]: twenty twenty-four and also the approval of the minutes from October seventh, twenty twenty-four. Um, is there a motion to accept those, please? So moved. Is there a second? [0:13:54, 0:13:58]: Okay, Mr uh Mr Thomas second up from Mr. Alzheimer's and Mr. Thomas, all in favor, please in the K. [0:14:00, 0:14:10]: Okay, so now she seized, thank you very much. Um now m uh bo chair board, I'm sorry, we need a motion to go in executive session to discuss real estate matters. [0:14:11, 0:14:23]: So move. Is there some executive session for real estate matters? Thank you. Miss Barber Segner from Alazana, Mr. Bar uh Miss Barber, on fair please indicate. Thank you. We'll go into executive session. Thank you very much. We'll be back, ladies and gentlemen. [0:14:25, 0:14:27]: We're gonna go to cycle session now. High forty. [0:14:27, 0:14:28]: Okay. [0:14:55, 0:14:55]: [896.2, 898.0]: Yeah. [0:15:07, 0:15:09]: I I wanna make sure she's ready before I go. [0:15:11, 0:15:18]: You set? Okay. All right, uh board, I need a uh motion to end our uh executive session, please. [0:15:19, 0:15:19]: Yeah. [0:15:20, 0:15:21]: Mm-hmm. [0:15:32, 0:15:34]: Of course, you know, directly in the room and uh [0:15:35, 0:15:39]: Is uh Jesus Christ. [0:15:51, 0:15:55]: It is the T right there. [0:16:08, 0:16:10]: Pieces up the whole thing. [0:16:43, 0:17:03]: All right, uh board, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. So move. From Mr. Thomas. Is there a second? Second. Uh Mr. Azan second. All favor, please indicate. Okay, fantastic. Now I need a motion to end. We have nothing to report at this point before the URA, so I need a motion to end our URA meeting, please. So moved. Okay from Mr. [0:17:03, 0:17:20]: Okay, Mr. Tars from Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. All right. We're now finished with our URA meeting. I'll give it about five minutes before we start our council meeting. So let's take a quick little break before we get started on that. Yeah, call back to one about five, no more than ten minutes max.
  • 2024-10-17 · City Council · Transcript · Planning Commission

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    --- title: Planning Commission date: 2024-10-17 source: 2024-10-17_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:00]: To my right. [0:00:01, 0:00:03]: David Play and Sean to my far left. [0:00:04, 0:00:08]: Jaden Williams to my far right. Matthew Thomas to my [0:00:09, 0:00:12]: Next it must planch on to my far far left. [0:00:14, 0:00:18]: And Mr. Mitten, who's the Vice Chair to my immediate left. [0:00:20, 0:00:24]: The staff members are Ryan Anderson, who's the community development director. [0:00:25, 0:00:27]: Valerie Ross said it's only an attorney. [0:00:28, 0:00:29]: Kidra Jackson, chief planner. [0:00:30, 0:00:34]: Linda Logan, senior planner and planner commission secretary. [0:00:36, 0:00:38]: Gordon Linton, senior planner. [0:00:41, 0:00:45]: There are a few protocols that I need to make you aware of before we start the meeting. [0:00:46, 0:00:49]: Please listen closely on how tonight's meeting will be conducted. [0:00:52, 0:00:56]: Keep your comments and presentations on a professional level. [0:00:56, 0:01:00]: Dealing with facts that are important for this commission to make its decision. [0:01:01, 0:01:04]: We will not accept any comments that are considered [0:01:05, 0:01:10]: by the chair to be a personal attack on any individual or group of individuals. [0:01:11, 0:01:14]: You'll receive a warning from the chair if you deviate from this requirement. [0:01:15, 0:01:21]: A second deviation will result in the request for you to leave the meeting and the premises for the evening. [0:01:23, 0:01:36]: Refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. Only one person will be talking at a time and all comments will be made at the podium after the speaker has been recognized by the chair. [0:01:37, 0:01:42]: Please direct all comments to the chair and the commission, not to the audience or staff. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: Please didn't ask. [0:01:46, 0:01:56]: applaud or react to speakers, speak from the audience, cheer or carry on a conversation with others in the audience, or disrupt the order of this meeting in any way. [0:01:59, 0:02:11]: Be aware that these things these hearings are not a debate or an opportunity to ask questions which must be answered by any individual tonight, but merely an opportunity to present information to the Commission. [0:02:12, 0:02:16]: About ten minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. [0:02:17, 0:02:20]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak longer than five minutes. [0:02:23, 0:02:27]: If you have a cell phone or other electronic device [0:02:27, 0:02:29]: I ask that you either power them off. [0:02:30, 0:02:32]: Or put them in solid mode. [0:02:33, 0:02:44]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight, please fill out a speaker's form, which is available on the table up front, and hand it to a staff member before approaching the podium. [0:02:46, 0:02:59]: After each case is called, we'll hear next from the city staff and then we'll hear from the applicant or their representative about what the plans are for the property, along with any other relevant information they wish to present. [0:03:01, 0:03:05]: The commissioner members will be free to ask questions at any time before [0:03:06, 0:03:07]: To vote on a project. [0:03:07, 0:03:16]: Following the applicant, anyone who wish to speak for or against the project or just to ask questions will have the opportunity to do so. [0:03:17, 0:03:25]: Each side is restricted to a maximum of ten minutes, or time may be waived at the discretion of the presiding officer. [0:03:26, 0:03:29]: If questions are raised, we may ask the applicant to speak again. [0:03:31, 0:03:34]: Afterwards we will call for a motion and a second. [0:03:35, 0:03:42]: Have any necessary discussion, and if the matter is not tabled, we will vote to recommend approval or denial of the application. [0:03:43, 0:03:46]: This commission is on a a recommending body. [0:03:47, 0:03:49]: The item will be heard by the mayor and council. [0:03:50, 0:03:52]: whether we recommend approval or recommend denial. [0:03:54, 0:04:01]: Unless they are tabled, these items will be heard by the city manager and the council at their meeting on Monday, october fourteenth. [0:04:03, 0:04:07]: I think that's the misprint. And the items will be voted upon at that meeting. [0:04:09, 0:04:11]: Madam Chair, I need a roll call, please. [0:04:17, 0:04:23]: Madam Secretary. I'm following the agenda, please. Roll call. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: Excuse me? [0:04:26, 0:04:31]: D I'm following the agenda I was presented and item number one says roll call. [0:04:31, 0:04:33]: Okay, Stanley Dumas. [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: He present. [0:04:35, 0:04:36]: Anthony Minton? Present. [0:04:37, 0:04:39]: Harold Thibodeau? President. [0:04:40, 0:04:41]: David Planchon. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Present. [0:04:43, 0:04:47]: Jaden Williams. Present. Matthew Thomas? Present. [0:04:47, 0:04:49]: Mr. Chairman, we have a quorum tonight. [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Thank you. [0:04:52, 0:04:57]: Thank you, Madam Secretary. Mr. Tibodeau, would you lead us in the implication, please? [0:04:58, 0:05:04]: Uh let's bow our head. God the Father, through Jesus Christ, give us the wisdom and the understanding. [0:05:04, 0:05:09]: to say and do the right thing towards the citizens of Stockbridge. In Jesus' name, amen. [0:05:10, 0:05:12]: Man, let us stand for the pledge. [0:05:17, 0:05:30]: A pledge of allegiance to the plan of the United States of America and to the Republic of which is just one nation under God indivisible with liberty and just as well. [0:05:40, 0:05:43]: Thank you very much. I need a motion please to adopt the agenda. [0:05:43, 0:05:47]: Chair. Yes. I have a quick question about the agenda, if I may. [0:05:48, 0:05:48]: Go right ahead, sir. [0:05:49, 0:05:55]: Uh item number three under new business, the board training, would that be before after we adjourn the meeting? [0:05:56, 0:05:58]: Item number three. [0:05:59, 0:06:02]: That's the question for staff. I don't have the answer to that. [0:06:04, 0:06:13]: It's Mr Anderson. Is that present? Is it for board the Planning Commission board training? Is that for the public as well to listen in or are we gonna adjourn and then [0:06:15, 0:06:18]: Uh no, it's not a public hearing, it's just for the board members. [0:06:19, 0:06:20]: Okay so [0:06:29, 0:06:32]: Okay, thank you. Uh Chair, I'm making a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:06:33, 0:06:49]: Thank you, sir. Any second, please? I second it. It's been moved. Second it. Mr. Williams has made a motion to adopt the agenda. Mr. Pivotal has seconded. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Any opposed? Ayes have it. [0:06:50, 0:06:51]: The agenda is adopted. [0:06:53, 0:06:57]: You have before you the minutes from the September nineteenth [0:06:58, 0:06:59]: Plan a commission meeting. [0:07:00, 0:07:04]: You have not already done so, I'll give you a minute to peruse those. [0:07:06, 0:07:08]: For any necessary corrections? [0:07:17, 0:07:20]: If there are no corrections, I need a motion to approve, please. [0:07:20, 0:07:25]: Mr. Chairman, Anthony Mitten makes the motion to approve the summary minutes. Second. [0:07:26, 0:07:30]: It's been moved by Mr. Mitten and seconded by Mr. Thomas. [0:07:30, 0:07:40]: That we approve the minutes of the September nineteenth, twenty twenty four Planning Commission meeting. All those in favor, let it be known by the sound of I please. Aye. Okay. Any opposed? [0:07:41, 0:07:42]: Yeah. [0:07:42, 0:07:44]: The eyes have it. The minutes are approved. [0:08:00, 0:08:07]: The first item on tonight's agenda is special use case, special use permit case. [0:08:08, 0:08:11]: S P. E. dash twenty twenty four dash zero two. [0:08:13, 0:08:19]: Special m special use permit case to be located in council district four. [0:08:23, 0:08:27]: We held above public hearing on this case on September nineteenth. [0:08:29, 0:08:35]: So consideration of a special use permit request to allow for a liquor store. [0:08:36, 0:08:38]: On property at one o six Rock Quarry Road. [0:08:39, 0:08:44]: The applicant is G R P L C agent is [0:08:45, 0:08:47]: Kukishimar Patel. [0:08:49, 0:08:57]: The property is located in landlot sixty-two of district twelve and it contains point eight nine acres more or less. [0:08:58, 0:09:00]: Mr. Linton, please. [0:09:19, 0:09:20]: Second Mr. Zooman. [0:09:23, 0:09:31]: Uh let me read into the record that the Planning Commission members were scheduled to vote on this case on September nineteenth, twenty twenty four. [0:09:31, 0:09:40]: However, due to absence, the note um the vote was postponed and the meeting was diverted today's meeting. So now all we have to do is vote. [0:09:41, 0:09:41]: Thank you, sir. [0:09:44, 0:09:50]: Madam Attorney, do we all need to vote again or do it does the uh only the absence? [0:09:50, 0:09:52]: Uh Commission Mimani to vote. [0:09:53, 0:09:58]: So it's going to be a motion again tonight. So someone needs to make a motion. [0:10:04, 0:10:06]: So all of us need to work in. [0:10:21, 0:10:24]: Okay. Very good. I need a motion from the commission, please. [0:10:25, 0:10:40]: Chair. Yes sir. Sorry, before we make a motion. Um if possible, Gordon, could you tell us what exactly are the uh special requests or special use permits that they're requesting exactly from the city? [0:10:44, 0:11:01]: So the special use permit, this is for the uh liquor store um for one oh six Rock Croy Road that was heard on September nineteenth. Um as you know the applicant they won the uh lottery application and once they won the lottery application they had to go through a um special use permit. [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: Mr. Gordon, I have a question. Uh [0:11:07, 0:11:09]: Go ready? [0:11:09, 0:11:12]: Uh I need to ask a question. Um [0:11:13, 0:11:16]: You said this is a lottery. Who who issues the lottery? [0:11:17, 0:11:36]: Uh so the city they is they had like a um the lottery permit that was held on I believe around June. Um and the applicant Mr. Patel won and once he won they had to go through he had to go through the uh special use permit. Now you're saying the city issues the lottery? [0:11:36, 0:11:45]: Yeah. Okay. Does the patron live in the city of Stockbridge? But a liquor store? Does does that individual live in the city? [0:11:46, 0:11:46]: No. [0:11:47, 0:11:48]: Repeat that again one more time. [0:11:50, 0:11:52]: A patron who wants the liquor store. [0:11:52, 0:11:55]: Mm-hmm. Do they live into live in the city or the county? [0:11:56, 0:11:58]: In the c in the city. Okay. [0:11:58, 0:11:59]: Yeah, that's all. [0:12:04, 0:12:06]: Are there any more questions for Mr Linton? [0:12:08, 0:12:11]: Not I need a motion pleased from the commission. [0:12:12, 0:12:13]: Yeah. [0:12:14, 0:12:19]: Mr. Chairman, this Dave Planchin, I'll second that. Or did you make a motion? I'm sorry. [0:12:19, 0:12:21]: I'm asking for a motion. [0:12:23, 0:12:37]: I'm sorry, I'm the attorney for the business, Lisa Morshower. I was here last time. Am I understand I had to run out to my car to get my book, so so I I'm sorry I didn't hear what you said at the very beginning. But are you are we not having the entire hearing again? [0:12:37, 0:12:49]: Because somebody was missing and how can that person vote if we do not have the entire hearing again? Let me defer to the attorney, please. Again, would you make uh make her comfortable with what's going on? [0:12:50, 0:13:10]: Again, the motion was to continue this public hearing to this date to be able to have a full board tonight for the vote. Now, the public hearing, and Linda, you may want to uh tell me from the minutes. I don't believe the public hearing was closed. I believe the entire [0:13:10, 0:13:21]: matter was continued to tonight. So we would have to just see if the public hearing was closed. If it was closed, then there could be a motion to open the public hearing again. [0:13:23, 0:13:25]: [811.1, 812.9]: Any comments, Madam Secretary? [0:13:37, 0:13:41]: It's my recollection that the public hearing was closed last time. [0:13:44, 0:13:48]: Yeah, I would love for Miss Logan to verify that, but [0:13:51, 0:13:55]: Uh Madam Chair uh I mean Mr Chair, may I speak? [0:13:55, 0:13:56]: Go right ahead, sir. [0:13:56, 0:14:03]: Uh at the time we only had one person in opposition of that at that time. That's true, sir. [0:14:04, 0:14:11]: Well that is not correct. Well, correct me, sir, because I was at the meeting and I only seen one person come up to the podium at that time. [0:14:12, 0:14:20]: You mean one person from the public? Yes. No, from the public is what I'm referring to, okay? You are correct, sir. All right, thank you. [0:14:23, 0:14:33]: Um I can read part of the minutes from the meeting. Um and it says Harold Thibodeau made a motion to approve SP twenty twenty-four oh two. [0:14:33, 0:14:44]: And Jaden Williams seconded the motion. A vote was taken. Harold Thibodeau and Jaden Williams voted to approve this case, while Anthony Minton and Matthew Thomas voted to oppose this case. [0:14:44, 0:14:53]: Um that's not what I'm asking for, ma uh madam secretary. What I'm asking you to rewind back before that vote was taken, did we close the public hearing? [0:14:54, 0:14:56]: I'm I'm hope to [0:14:58, 0:15:16]: Get get to the that. So then Chairman Dan Stanley Dumas was about to cast a tie breaking vote to not deny this case. But Valerie Ross City's owning attorney said planning commission's bylaws allowed the case to be continued to Planning Commission's next meeting in order to take a note another vote with a full six member board. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: Present. [0:15:18, 0:15:22]: This case can be continued to the next planning commission meeting since there was a split vote with [0:15:22, 0:15:24]: One member, David Planchon. [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: Uh out tonight. [0:15:26, 0:15:46]: But Ms. Ross said the city council may still take action on this case before then the applicant's attorney agreed with deferring SP twenty twenty four until next planning commission meeting on October seventeen, twenty-four. I don't have any notes which said that public hearing was was a closed, but um [0:15:46, 0:15:49]: It the board action did come after [0:15:49, 0:15:59]: the public hearing. We had a public hearing in which only one person spoke, then there were board comments and staff responses, and then after that the board action. [0:16:02, 0:16:08]: The board would not have commented and taken action until the public hearing was closed. [0:16:08, 0:16:08]: Sure. [0:16:09, 0:16:29]: If I may, I I'm kinda rem go ahead, sir. Thank you, sir. If I may, um I actually remember now. So we did the vote. We did the public hearing. You opened, you closed it. We did the vote. Um the representation of the applicant uh I guess acute you know, appealed our vote by saying they wanna object it and move it to the next meeting. And I believe that's what we did. Um [0:16:29, 0:16:40]: Um she brought it back to the next meeting. If I'm not mistaken, that's the vote we decided on. We did vote. We closed the hearing and then she wanted to bring it back. So is that correct? [0:16:41, 0:16:48]: Thank you, Mr Williams. Mr madam Attorney, uh I need directions from you. What do we do next? [0:16:50, 0:17:10]: It's up to the pleasure of this board. If the board wants to reopen this matter by motion to have the public hearing or to re-reopen the public hearing, this board can do that. If the minutes or from what you all are saying are correct, the public hearing was closed and it was deferred. [0:17:10, 0:17:27]: To this meeting for a vote. So if you all want to reopen the public hearing, that would have to be by motion and a vote so that the public hearing can be reopened again. And then you would hear that for and against, and then you would close the public hearing again and then vote again. [0:17:29, 0:17:30]: So it sounds like [0:17:34, 0:17:43]: I actually object if you have a vote without the fi the fifth person hearing the case. How in the world can this person who didn't see the case or hear it vote? [0:17:44, 0:17:46]: That wouldn't that was not the purpose of my deferral. [0:17:47, 0:17:55]: My understanding was that we would have a whole new hearing because one of the members was missing. I didn't understand that we were going to have a vote without having a hearing. [0:17:56, 0:17:57]: That was never what I intended. [0:17:58, 0:18:18]: And I would respectfully request you to have the hearing again because I don't think it's fair to ask some somebody to vote on a hearing that they have not even heard, nor is it fair to the applicant who I represent. And I I do object to it. I s I don't think your rules allow for that. I don't think you can have somebody vote on a hearing that they were not present at. So there would have [0:18:17, 0:18:20]: been no purpose to defer it and I just I mean [0:18:21, 0:18:29]: I came from Atlanta two and a half hours to come to this hearing to present this case again so that the person who wasn't here could hear it. [0:18:29, 0:18:31]: Otherwise there would have been no [0:18:31, 0:18:51]: purpose at all for me to come for us to be here because the person voting has to hear the the case. It doesn't make any sense and and due respect. It just does not make sense. How could this person make a valid decision? Are you asking us to respond or are you gonna just continue to talk about the I'm just trying to get my objections out for the record because I do [0:18:51, 0:19:08]: And we're loud and clear. Thank you. And I would not assume because these meetings are recorded, I would not assume that Mr. Planchon has not heard the case from last meeting. That may be correct, it may not be correct. [0:19:08, 0:19:15]: But my concern is if we op reopen the public hearing and we haven't notified the public. [0:19:15, 0:19:21]: The public doesn't have an opportunity to weigh in. That's that's my only concern. [0:19:50, 0:19:51]: If you want. [0:19:51, 0:20:05]: do a motion to reopen a public hearing because it the law is very clear. You do not have, because there would be too burdensome on local governments to have to constantly advertise for the same public hearing. [0:20:05, 0:20:10]: So the courts look at it as just one continuous hearing and [0:20:17, 0:20:37]: Thank you for clarification. I need a motion to reopen the hearing. Chair. Yes, sir. I'd actually like um if it's okay with the board, uh again, just going back off the sentiments that you said, we really didn't push it back for the community to hear. I'd actually like to make a motion, um, if it's okay with our absent member from the last meeting to make a motion that the commission [0:20:37, 0:20:42]: votes make motion to vote rather than reopen the hearing. [0:20:44, 0:20:52]: May I speak, Mr. Chair? Go right ahead, sir. I I think it's only fair for her to present her case to the member that wasn't here. [0:20:53, 0:21:13]: I don't think it it it'll hinder our time frame, but uh she has a point about presenting her case. I mean, how do you establish the fact that uh we all gonna be on one accord if she doesn't state her case to the last member that was a motion? [0:21:13, 0:21:16]: Motion, sir. If that's what your opinion is, make the motion. [0:21:18, 0:21:24]: I'd like to present a motion that we reopen. Chair, I've already made a motion, so you'd have to go. Well, I'll second it then. [0:21:25, 0:21:45]: You're not making the motion that he made. No, I'm not sure. So he's saying vote. I'm I'm I'm saying not vote. Give her a chance to second his motion, you're saying right to vote. You're saying not to reopen it. I'm saying so uh Commissioner, I'm saying not to reopen the case. Exactly. And he's saying [0:21:45, 0:21:52]: Second it, but with his dialogue said that we should reopen. Correct. So it's confusing to me. Okay, let me establish this with you. [0:21:53, 0:22:08]: I just need a second on Mr. Williams' motion. Well I'm not gonna second. I I'll retract my second. Maybe someone else will. Mr. Thomas second it? Yes. All those in favor of not reopening the case, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. [0:22:10, 0:22:13]: And you gotta know here. Let me have a show of hands, please. [0:22:15, 0:22:16]: Three against reopening. [0:22:18, 0:22:19]: Anybody your poles? [0:22:20, 0:22:21]: Post. [0:22:21, 0:22:23]: Two appules for [0:22:27, 0:22:29]: So we will not reopen the case. [0:22:30, 0:22:32]: Alex, I took vote on [0:22:34, 0:22:40]: the substance of this hearing which is your recommendation to [0:22:45, 0:22:52]: Okay. Right. Very good. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, who seconded the motion, please? [0:22:53, 0:22:55]: Mr. Thomas. [0:23:01, 0:23:12]: Chair. Now I go right ahead, sir. Go ahead. I need a motion from the commission on the substance of the case, SP twenty twenty four-zero two. [0:23:14, 0:23:22]: Chair. Consideration of a special use request to allow for a liquor store on the property at one o six Rock Halloween Road. [0:23:23, 0:23:26]: The applicant is G R P L L C [0:23:27, 0:23:28]: I Chen is [0:23:29, 0:23:40]: Gersh Kuma Patel, the property is located in landlot sixty two, District twelve, and it contains point eight nine acres more or less. I need a vote a motion, please. [0:23:41, 0:23:46]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchon. I'd like to make a motion we approve. [0:23:47, 0:23:55]: The special use permit submitted by uh uh GRP L L C and allow liquor store to be [0:23:57, 0:23:58]: Put on that property. [0:23:59, 0:24:02]: Is there a second, please? Ms. Harrow, I'll second it. [0:24:02, 0:24:07]: Thank you. It's been moved by Mr. Planchon and seconded by Mr. Thibodeau. [0:24:09, 0:24:17]: That we approve special use permit case SP 2024-02. All in favor? Let it be known by show of hands. [0:24:19, 0:24:28]: Aye. Aye. Aye. We have uh f four voting y in their polls. [0:24:28, 0:24:28]: Aye. [0:24:30, 0:24:33]: We have one, Mr. Thomas voting in opposition. [0:24:37, 0:24:43]: So the special use permit case is being approved for recommendation to the council. [0:24:51, 0:24:52]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:24:56, 0:25:00]: The next item is text amendment case T X twenty twenty four dash zero six. [0:25:02, 0:25:15]: So citywide consideration of an ordinance ordinance to amend title twelve of Unified Development Code, Section 3.2.14C. [0:25:16, 0:25:27]: And to add sections three point two point one four E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, N P. [0:25:28, 0:25:30]: of the Code of Ordnance. [0:25:31, 0:25:35]: City of Stockbridge, Georgia relating to convenience stores. [0:25:35, 0:25:37]: Almobile gasoline sales. [0:25:38, 0:25:41]: So as to amend the distance requirement. [0:25:42, 0:25:43]: From forty five hundred feet. [0:25:45, 0:25:46]: To eight hundred feet. [0:25:47, 0:25:51]: And to add additional requirements. Mr. Linton, please. [0:25:54, 0:26:00]: Thank you, Chair. Uh this is the presentation for the TX twenty-four-zero six. [0:26:09, 0:26:28]: And the purpose is to amend the distance requirements for gas stations with convenience stores from forty five hundred feet to eight hundred feet, which is section three point two one four C, and to add additional requirements for convenience stores with gas stations from sections three point two one four E through Q. [0:26:31, 0:26:51]: And this is the background for the reason we we wanted this. In in the past, staff has received inquiries about establishing convenience stores with gas stations in the city of Stockbridge. However, the current required distance of 4,500 feet found in section 3.2144C is too restrictive by [0:26:51, 0:26:52]: Potential developers. [0:26:54, 0:26:59]: Who argue that it limits the feasibility of establishing new convenience stores for gas stations in the area? [0:27:02, 0:27:13]: Currently this is the uh gas station map. We currently have twenty one in the area, as you can see with the dots. And the one uh faded in blue is the city boundary limits. [0:27:19, 0:27:25]: These are the current standards found in section three point two one four of the UDC, which is shown highlighted in C. [0:27:30, 0:27:48]: And these are the changes that were made to section three point one four C of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code, where it says that gasoline service stations shall maintain a separation distance requirement of eight hundred feet. This distance shall be measured from the property line to property line of another gasoline service station. [0:27:50, 0:28:10]: And these are the requirements that will be added to section 3.214 of the UDC. Uh the gas station must be located on a property which has frontage on either a collector or our tiller road, as is classified by the Georgia Department of Transportation or the Henry County Department of Transportation. The property must have a base zoning of C3. [0:28:10, 0:28:30]: and C2 via a special use permit. All property design standards of the base zoning district must be met. The building facades for both primary and accessory structures must be constructed of bricks on all sides. At the gasoline stations an equal number of electric charging stations as gas pumps [0:28:30, 0:28:46]: must be provided on the sites and covered canopies must be provided over the gas pumps and electric charging stations. And acceptable means of app access and internal circulations must be provided to be determined by the fire marshal. The required number of parking spaces must be provided. [0:28:48, 0:29:08]: The required buffers must be required and other special requirements to be determined by the community development director. The investment must be eight million dollars or more. The gas station must have suites for at least two subtenance. And as far as proliferation, there there shall be no more than three gasoline stations with a one mile radius to avoid proliferation. [0:29:08, 0:29:12]: proliferation and all gas stations must meet the other causal ordinances. [0:29:14, 0:29:17]: And this is the draft of the ordinance once it's is written. [0:29:21, 0:29:37]: And based on the research, staff recommends approval. And by reducing the current distance requirement for the convenience store with a gas station from forty five hundred to feet to eight hundred feet, it will make it easier for developers to pursue new development and interest in the city of Stockbridge. [0:29:39, 0:29:50]: Thank you, Mr. Lynn. I have a couple of questions for you, please. For clarification, the distance, the feet distance that you refer to. [0:29:51, 0:29:57]: It's not clear in in your narrative, but that's the distance between one gas station to another one. Is that correct? [0:29:59, 0:30:03]: Yes. Property line. Yes, from a property line to property line. Yes. [0:30:03, 0:30:06]: But but it's between two gas stations. [0:30:07, 0:30:07]: Yeah. [0:30:08, 0:30:09]: Well that wasn't clear to be fun. [0:30:10, 0:30:30]: The second question in number F, you said the property must have a base zoning district of C three and C two? Yes. That should be or or not in. Uh uh am I reading that or just understanding it incorrectly? Yeah, this uh so gasoline station they're either permitted in a C three or C two. [0:30:29, 0:30:32]: [1834.4, 1841.5]: So that should be or instead of and then shouldn't it? Uh or yes, it should be or it should be or it should be or. Thank you. [0:30:42, 0:30:45]: The other question I have the number N is [0:30:46, 0:30:49]: How did you arrive at the eight million dollar investment? [0:30:51, 0:30:54]: Uh let's see. [0:30:56, 0:31:15]: So Mr. Chairman, if I might ask on that question as well. Is that Gordon, is that driven by the eight million dollars that uh Chairman Newvis just asked? Is that driven, for instance, by the electrical charging stations? Because that's a very expensive investment. Right is that part of this eight million dollar figure? [0:31:15, 0:31:16]: Uh [0:31:19, 0:31:20]: Hold on, just [0:31:25, 0:31:28]: I apologize, Vice Chair. Can you please repeat your question? [0:31:29, 0:31:44]: So I just wanted to to to kind of build on Chairman Doumas' comment here, where he was asking an item in where we came up with that eight million dollars. Is that tied to, for instance, the number of electrical charging stations? Since that is a pretty costly investment. [0:31:45, 0:32:05]: Right. Right. So yes, the investment itself can be tied to the electrical charging stations. However, keep in mind that these are conditions that staff has implemented. You do not have to accept these conditions. You can modify them or you can um exclude them from the conditions. [0:32:05, 0:32:10]: But yes, it would include the investment of charging stations. [0:32:10, 0:32:16]: I'm not attempting to modify I just want understanding as how you arrived at eight million dollars. [0:32:17, 0:32:30]: Correct. Um so there were uh many conversations that went into this, some that I'm not privy to. Um however this is one of the um results of those conversations. [0:32:32, 0:32:45]: It's I never seen a dollar figure being associated with a zoning before. I it's just it kinda make me uncomfortable, but I I trust the staff and what you tell me. [0:32:46, 0:32:57]: I certainly understand. And if this is something that makes you uncomfortable, again, you do not have to go with this condition. You do have the right to remove, modify, or amend. [0:33:02, 0:33:06]: Well, you guys are in a much better position to know what's appropriate. [0:33:07, 0:33:10]: Uh I would not try to tell you how to [0:33:10, 0:33:11]: Conduct your business. [0:33:11, 0:33:14]: I just asked the question as to how you arrived at. [0:33:15, 0:33:19]: That that's all I'm I'm not saying it's incorrect. I'm not saying it shouldn't be there. [0:33:19, 0:33:24]: I'm so I'm not saying it should be less, I'm not saying it should be more. I just wanna understand. [0:33:25, 0:33:28]: Because it's it's new to me. I I'm I've never seen [0:33:29, 0:33:37]: And I don't like that inner zoning orders or special use permit or any type of zoning issue that we've had to entertain. [0:33:38, 0:33:46]: Definitely. Your observation is definitely respected. Um, unfortunately I do not have the full details of how this amount came about. [0:33:46, 0:33:47]: Thank you. [0:33:52, 0:33:54]: This doesn't require public hearing. [0:33:55, 0:33:57]: Madam Atorn, is that correct? [0:34:01, 0:34:03]: Okay. [0:34:03, 0:34:04]: Okay. [0:34:06, 0:34:13]: Well this meeting is now open for public comment. Chair does the board ask questions before or after the hearing? [0:34:14, 0:34:17]: You can ask your question now if you want to go out of here. [0:34:17, 0:34:28]: Thank you, Chair. Um, I just had a few questions for staff. Um, how many I know you put the map up, but I wanted to get the number. How many gas stations do we actually have in the city? [0:34:28, 0:34:45]: Twenty one in the city limits. Okay, and I know that's just the city, but do you know by chance how many we have that are in the city but are developed by the county? We do not have that number as far as countywide. We just have the numbers that far as in the city boundaries. Okay. Uh city limits. [0:34:47, 0:34:49]: All right. So [0:34:50, 0:35:10]: I w I kinda wanna get a justification on why we we want to move it from forty five hundred to eight hundred feet, only because just going based off the general US rule of thumb, with our population of what, thirty six thousand people, we really only need for a feasible operating gas station line, you only need twelve to eighteen, if I'm doing my math correct. So [0:35:10, 0:35:15]: So what what's the actual reasoning of us reducing this for more gas stations in the city? [0:35:28, 0:35:30]: You want to answer. [0:35:36, 0:35:38]: Thank you, Commissioner Williams. Um [0:35:40, 0:35:45]: Many things went into consideration in creating this Test Amendment. One is um [0:35:45, 0:35:47]: Our population. [0:35:47, 0:35:55]: Um, the second is that we've had several inquiries for a gas station. Um and we [0:35:56, 0:35:57]: Based on the [0:35:58, 0:36:18]: uh regulations in the code, it will prevent um those developers that are coming before us to move forward with the gas station. So we wanted to relax the code to allow um equal opportunity to those that have come to us in the past and and to the future. [0:36:20, 0:36:21]: Okay. Um [0:36:22, 0:36:33]: Thank you for that. I just have a so quick question, I know you probably know it by heart, but what's the square feet distance that we have to have for our hair salons and barbershops in the city? [0:36:34, 0:36:53]: But b between one another. So there is not a distance requirement with hair salines barbershops. What we have is a limit to of the number of those uses that are allowed in the city. What's that limit? Six. Six. Okay. Um I had another question that literally just passed my mind. [0:36:55, 0:36:58]: I'd like to add something too. Don't worry about it. Go ahead. [0:36:59, 0:37:12]: Uh Commissioner Williams, I apologize. Let me make a correction to my last statement. So no less than a mall in regards to barber shops, hair salons, nail shops. [0:37:13, 0:37:14]: Are there others? [0:37:14, 0:37:34]: And tower shops. Okay. I'm fine with it. I just have I again just like the chair said, I trust staff. I just want to make sure, you know, we're playing every single part. I I don't really feel comfortable voting on this without knowing how many this this county have put in the city limits. Although y'all have the number for the city, you know, you still have those. [0:37:34, 0:37:41]: next parts that are around the city that the county brings in. So I really wanna get that number on top of the twenty one that we have in the city. [0:37:44, 0:37:48]: We can certainly get that information for you. We just do not have it tonight. [0:37:50, 0:37:53]: Thank you. Any other comments from the Commission? [0:37:56, 0:37:57]: Questions or comments? [0:38:02, 0:38:06]: Hearing none, we will open the floor up for public comments. [0:38:07, 0:38:10]: If there's anyone present who would like to speak. [0:38:10, 0:38:12]: On this text amendment case. [0:38:12, 0:38:15]: Either in favor of or against [0:38:44, 0:38:46]: The green light is on. [0:38:46, 0:38:48]: Is your microphone turned on? [0:39:05, 0:39:25]: might be a little bit more but eight million is a lot of money for a gas station operator to invest. I just wanted to point that out so that you understood the finances of it. It's a lot. So I don't know that you'll have anybody build maybe a racetrack right but you may not have any small operators who actually live in your [0:39:25, 0:39:29]: community or one local businesses do that because eight million is a lot of [0:39:32, 0:39:33]: Thank you so much. [0:39:36, 0:39:49]: Anyone else? Madam Secretary, did you get uh for the record you have her name already on the previous case? Did you need her to state that again? [0:39:50, 0:39:52]: I may state it for the record, yes. [0:39:57, 0:39:59]: Name and address, please. [0:40:08, 0:40:09]: That read it. [0:40:12, 0:40:14]: And to three oh three and five. [0:40:14, 0:40:22]: And I just stated it as an attorney who represents a lot of community source and gas station members. Thank you. Thank you. [0:40:23, 0:40:24]: It wasn't all right. [0:40:25, 0:40:30]: Should I say it again? Did you get you heard me, right? Thank you. [0:40:33, 0:40:35]: Anyone else? [0:40:36, 0:40:39]: Hearing none, the public hearings now closed. [0:40:43, 0:40:46]: Any more comments from the commission before we vote? [0:40:54, 0:40:56]: I need a motion please from the commission. [0:40:57, 0:41:04]: Chairman. Yes, sir. I make a motion sorry, give me one moment. I make a motion to [0:41:05, 0:41:09]: Uh deny text amendment case t x dash two hundred twenty four dash oh six. [0:41:10, 0:41:11]: Is there a second? [0:41:14, 0:41:25]: Mr. Chairman, I second the motion. It's been moved by Mr. Williams, seconded by Mr. Mitten, that we deny text amendment case TX 2024-06. [0:41:25, 0:41:30]: All in favor, please. Let it be known by the sound of I. Aye. Aye. [0:41:31, 0:41:31]: Nay. [0:41:32, 0:41:35]: Uh in the call for the opposition yet. [0:41:35, 0:41:47]: Let me see a show of hands, because I can't hear everybody. Aye. Aye. All in favor? Mr. Chairman, was this to accept the the No sir. It was to deny. The motion was to deny. [0:41:47, 0:41:47]: Okay. [0:41:48, 0:42:03]: Mr. Minton and Mr. Williams voted nay. Um voted yay to deny. Uh any opposed to that motion, let me see your hand, please. Mr. Plashon, Mr. Thomas, Mr. Thibodeau vote. [0:42:04, 0:42:07]: Nay. So the motion fails. [0:42:18, 0:42:21]: So you need a new motion. I need a new motion, please. [0:42:24, 0:42:26]: I'm sorry, go ahead. A new motion. [0:42:28, 0:42:30]: I need a new motion from the commission, please. [0:42:40, 0:42:42]: Will someone kindly make a motion? [0:42:44, 0:42:46]: Other than tonight, please [0:42:47, 0:42:53]: I'd like to present a motion that we uh the text amendment case [0:42:55, 0:42:56]: That we approve it. [0:42:59, 0:43:01]: Is there a second? A second. [0:43:02, 0:43:22]: Mr. Thibodeau has moved to approve the text amendment case 2024-06. Mr. Thomas. Second that motion. All in favor, let it be known by a show of hands. And aye. Aye. Aye. Mr. Thomas, Mr. [0:43:22, 0:43:37]: Planchon, Mr. Thibodeau votes yay to approve. Are there any opposition? Nay. Mr. Williams and Mr. Mitten vote nay to approve. So the motion passes. [0:43:40, 0:43:40]: Thank you, Bull. [0:43:52, 0:44:12]: Next item is text amendment case TX 24-07. Citywide, it's consideration of an ordinance to repeal title 12, section 2.4.7, 2.5.3 F 3.1, 3.2, F. [0:44:12, 0:44:16]: two point two four and fifteen. [0:44:16, 0:44:33]: of Stockbridge Mun Mini Code, I guess that's municipal code, to amend the Stockbridge Unified Development Code, sections two point four point seven, section two point five point three F [0:44:34, 0:44:36]: Section three point one. [0:44:36, 0:44:38]: Section three [0:44:40, 0:44:42]: Oh [0:44:43, 0:44:49]: I'm gonna read it the way it's written, three comma, two, comma, two, four, and fifteen. [0:44:52, 0:44:55]: And to add section three point two point four one. [0:44:56, 0:45:10]: Under chapter three, use regulations of the code of ordinances, city of Stockbridge, Georgia, relating to the downtown district and the downtown village overlay district. [0:45:10, 0:45:16]: By adding and removing certain uses from the list of prohibited uses [0:45:17, 0:45:24]: and by all and by allowing them to be permitted uses, providing that certain requirements are met. [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: Mr. Linton, please. [0:45:27, 0:45:47]: Thank you, Chairman. Uh so this is the PowerPoint presentation for TX twenty four oh seven, the other text amendment. And the purpose of the tax amendment is to amend section two point four seven of the stop bridge UDC, amend section two point five three F of the Stockbridge UDC to amend section. [0:45:47, 0:46:02]: Section 3.1, which is the use table of the UDC, amend three point two four of the Stockbridge UDC, to add supplementations to Section 3.241 of the UDC and to amend Section 4.85 of the UDC. [0:46:09, 0:46:14]: And these are the current permitted uses that are found in section two point four seven of the E D C [0:46:19, 0:46:28]: And these are the added permitted uses sections to the two point four seven of the UDC, which are the R studio, the dance studio, the hotels and the boutique hotels. [0:46:30, 0:46:50]: The addition of the permitted uses along with the addition regulations to the DT will further revitalize the downtown area stopbridge. And it will also align with the intent found in Section 2.4, which states to which is to maintain, enhance, and expand the downtown development patterns and mixed use and up. [0:46:49, 0:46:58]: Open space character of downtown Main Street. It is also to encourage compatible infill and redevelopment opportunities. [0:47:03, 0:47:06]: These are the current standards that are found in section two point three F. [0:47:10, 0:47:20]: And these are the changes that were being made to section two point three F, which is to r remove the tobacco vase shops, cigar bars and the b hookah lounge. [0:47:24, 0:47:27]: So these are the current standards that are found in section three point one the use table? [0:47:29, 0:47:33]: And these are the changes made, which is to add the boutique hotel. [0:47:34, 0:47:36]: And to add uh motel which are now permitted. [0:47:39, 0:47:42]: These are the current standards that are found in section three point one? [0:47:47, 0:47:48]: On the residential section? [0:47:50, 0:47:58]: And these are the changes that were being made, which is the multi multifamily apartments and condos are listed as permitted, which is highlighted. [0:48:01, 0:48:05]: And these are the current standards that I found in section three point one in the use table again? [0:48:08, 0:48:26]: And the recreation and the entertainment dance studio with live performance, assembly of concert halls, or similar attainment within closed building is permitted, which is highlighted. And we remove the di dance studio uh in the private commercial area in the use table. [0:48:30, 0:48:34]: And these are the other current standards that are found in section three point two four. [0:48:41, 0:48:55]: And these are the changes that were being made, which is section A ten. We're removing the dance studios in both A ten and in C, section three point two four C four. Yeah. [0:48:58, 0:49:06]: And these are the title twelve, section three point two four four four four four four one, which were adding that the hours, the operation allowed for dance studios shall be seven AM to ten PM. [0:49:11, 0:49:22]: And we are also adding new definitions to the UDC for the amphitheater, the Arts Studio, Artist, Dance Studio, Boutique Hotel, and the Hotel Slash Motel. [0:49:25, 0:49:29]: And these are the current standards found in section four point A five. [0:49:34, 0:49:39]: And these are the new standards, which is we're gonna add one space for per thousand square feet. [0:49:43, 0:49:45]: And this is the draft of the ordinance. [0:49:50, 0:50:10]: And based on staff recommendations, we we are recommending approval to amending section two point four seven, section two point five three F, amend section three point one, which is a use table, amend three point two two four, and adding supplementations to three point two four one, and amending section four. [0:50:10, 0:50:12]: Four point eight five of the stoppers unified development code. [0:50:15, 0:50:16]: And that's it. [0:50:19, 0:50:22]: Before you go, Mr Linton [0:50:24, 0:50:29]: You have any history on why dance studios were prohibited? [0:50:31, 0:50:41]: Uh these were recent regulations that were found in the UDC and we just feel like uh by adding the dance studio into the downtown it'll it'll first they're aligned with the [0:50:41, 0:50:43]: You didn't understand my question. [0:50:44, 0:50:53]: You adding them n now, that's what you wanna do. Yeah. They're asking you why were they not allowed before? Do you have any history as to why they weren't? [0:50:55, 0:50:55]: Uh no. [0:51:05, 0:51:07]: Mr Chair may I [0:51:07, 0:51:08]: Oh we over here. [0:51:08, 0:51:28]: There's no history why these uses were not allowed. Um, since we are now expounding and building our downtown area, these are interests that have been brought to staff and we're trying to make our test excuse me, our ordinance more acceptable to these uses. [0:51:30, 0:51:35]: I beg to differ with you um on there not been in the history. [0:51:36, 0:51:41]: Uh particularly when it comes to tar shops, pawn shops, hookamars. [0:51:41, 0:51:46]: That's a lot of history, and that's been a lot of dialogue, and there's been a lot of [0:51:48, 0:51:56]: discussion, public discussion as to not being over proliferated with certain type of businesses. [0:51:58, 0:52:02]: From the commission, community development, the council. [0:52:03, 0:52:05]: Oh [0:52:05, 0:52:07]: I'm just curious. [0:52:11, 0:52:13]: What's taking place as to why we're making the changes? [0:52:15, 0:52:35]: So as I stated before, we're now expounding our downtown area. We're in the process of attracting businesses. One of the businesses that have come before staff is a dance studio. Another is an art studio. Those are not permitted uses in the downtown area. [0:52:35, 0:52:51]: do not have hotels as a permitted use in the downtown area. Me personally, I do not know a downtown area that does not have a hotel. So we're trying to permit these uses so that these businesses can come to the city of Stockbridge. [0:52:51, 0:52:52]: I understand that. [0:52:54, 0:53:01]: And I don't necessarily disagree with you. I just rem recall from being here a while. [0:53:01, 0:53:02]: The [0:53:02, 0:53:11]: There was a lot of noise about certain type of businesses being coming over proliferated in our area. [0:53:11, 0:53:13]: Okay. Oh [0:53:15, 0:53:17]: And I've n already named some of them. [0:53:18, 0:53:21]: So those are they got a lot of mileage. [0:53:21, 0:53:23]: Sure. [0:53:24, 0:53:34]: Public opinion. Um, I can recall a case just not long ago came before us. They wanted to open a hookah bar in [0:53:35, 0:53:36]: And just cafe. [0:53:48, 0:53:52]: And because it was in the downtown district [0:53:53, 0:53:56]: Or the overlay district, I don't recall which. [0:53:58, 0:54:03]: I I believe it was denied by the Planning Commission and the Council. [0:54:08, 0:54:23]: Certainly I would welcome a boutique hotel, the downtown Stockbridge. I mean I got no problem with that. I I'm just concerned that if we open the gate for hookah bars, and I don't mean to pick on hookah bars, uh [0:54:25, 0:54:30]: I kinda feel like the way people felt when they wrote this ordinance in the first place. [0:54:31, 0:54:36]: You have every we wanted to limit those. So I don't I'm kinda questioning why we're changing them. [0:54:38, 0:54:45]: You do not have to accept this recommendation by staff. You can say we will [0:54:46, 0:55:02]: allow staff's recommendation except for and then you can go into naming what you do not want allowed. But this was one of the items discussed as a permitted use. [0:55:08, 0:55:13]: Any more questions from the commission? Yeah, may I speak uh Mr. Chair. [0:55:15, 0:55:19]: Uh what's happening in the city of Stockbridge is that we're growing [0:55:19, 0:55:26]: and we're developing and we're changing things according to certain developments. Now [0:55:27, 0:55:40]: Uh personally w we can limit the number of uh bars or any situation and and put a limit on certain activities. I I think uh when the uh [0:55:41, 0:56:01]: Staff recommended something that I think there should be a limit on certain items. Now, what are those items? I I'm not in a discussion with you guys to know what that would be. But if the chair feels that it hookah boys is is gonna be saturated in the community. [0:56:01, 0:56:06]: then I think we should uh express some form of limits as to how many. [0:56:07, 0:56:09]: Now, as far as the hotel situation is concerned. [0:56:10, 0:56:14]: I've never seen a downtown without a hotel, so that's strange to me. [0:56:15, 0:56:17]: On my personal behalf. [0:56:18, 0:56:23]: So I would say i if we have a saturation of certain items [0:56:23, 0:56:28]: uh businesses in the community, then we need we should uh place some limits. [0:56:29, 0:56:49]: Let me say for the record that the as far as the hookah bars and the that there was a recent text amendment that was passed by Mayor and Council this year and it did allow for hookah bars to be allowed in the DT. So that's why we're making that change um to remove it from the prohibited uses in the downtown village overlay district. [0:56:49, 0:56:51]: Cheer. [0:56:52, 0:57:12]: Go right ahead. Thank you, sir. Um I'm actually glad y'all are finally bringing this to us. Um one, I just want to kind of echo the sentiments of Commissioner Thibodeau. If we're trying to bring revenue to the city, um, along with the amphitheater, we need those accommodations to make sure that we can accommodate those guests. Cities make money not by those that live in the city. [0:57:12, 0:57:18]: So I'm I'm with that a thousand percent. Uh [0:57:19, 0:57:32]: However, I was also gonna ask, would that be the discretion of this body to make a limit number or give you all a limit number? Or how we go about that for I guess in regards to the shops, bars and lounges? [0:57:37, 0:57:57]: So what you can do, and I'm gonna ask the city attorney to step in if I'm incorrect. Um, you do have the autonomy to make a recommendation as to how many are allowed downtown. Um, so you can put a cap on that. Um again, if I'm incorrect. [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: thread, then I do ask the city attorney to step in. [0:58:09, 0:58:11]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:58:11, 0:58:13]: In more comments, for you. [0:58:13, 0:58:18]: Yes, I have a I have a comment, Mr. Chairman. Go right ahead, sir. So exhibit C on page six. [0:58:20, 0:58:37]: Uh multifamily apartments and condos is permitted. So as a representative of district four, there's been a great deal of opposition to uh new town homes, condos, etcetera in the area. So is this permitting right in this very downtown district? Because we don't have here [0:58:38, 0:58:40]: A boundary outline. [0:58:41, 0:58:46]: Of the out of the downtown downtown district. So I'm assuming that what it's approving is [0:58:47, 0:58:49]: Permitted use to build apartments. [0:58:49, 0:58:57]: Right here across the street. Would that be correct? If if requested, if an applicant actually asked for that. Would that be correct? [0:58:57, 0:59:10]: You are correct, Mr. Vice Chair Mitten. Um there are plans to bring apartments downtown. Right now it's not a permitted use and we want to allow it is a permitted use for downtown. [0:59:10, 0:59:11]: Okay, thank you. [0:59:16, 0:59:23]: Chair, one last question. Um, just to kind of echo Vice Chair, will it be mixed use or will it only be apartment town homes? [0:59:26, 0:59:27]: Commercial at the bottom. [0:59:28, 0:59:29]: It'll be mixed use. [0:59:36, 0:59:38]: Any other comments from the commission? [0:59:44, 0:59:51]: This requires a public hearing also. So we will now open the floor for comments from the public. [0:59:52, 0:59:59]: Anyone wish to comment on this text amendment case t x twenty twenty four dash zero seven. [1:00:03, 1:00:05]: Hearing on, the public hearing is now closed. [1:00:09, 1:00:11]: I will now ask for a vote from the commission. [1:00:12, 1:00:26]: Mr. Chairman, Anthony Ninton makes the motion to approve. However, I would make the request of staff in exhibit C, page six, multifamily apartments is removed or considered for removal. [1:00:30, 1:00:31]: Do you get that, Linda? [1:00:35, 1:00:36]: You want me to repeat it? [1:00:37, 1:00:38]: You speak loud, please. [1:00:39, 1:00:41]: Go right here. Say it again, please. Okay. [1:00:41, 1:00:54]: Mr. Mitten makes a motion to approve. However, I'd like to make the request of staff to remove in Exhibit C, page six, the permit of multifamily apartments. [1:00:57, 1:00:58]: Is there a second to the motion? [1:01:00, 1:01:01]: I'll second it, Harold. [1:01:02, 1:01:15]: It's been moved by Mr. Minton that we approve text amendment case TX 2024-07 with one adjustment, and that is to remove multifamily [1:01:17, 1:01:22]: From the permitted uses, multifamily apartments and condos from the permitted uses. [1:01:23, 1:01:28]: Sorry, I had my my hand up before the the second came, but I actually had a request for the motioner. [1:01:29, 1:01:41]: Oh sorry. Go ahead. Thank you, sir. Um, I was gonna ask if you would also add to your motion to put a cap number on the amount of tobacco vape shops, cigar bars, and hookah lounges in the downtown district. [1:01:44, 1:01:50]: I would agree to that. Would you like to uh sorry, Mr. Chair, amend your motion to include [1:01:51, 1:01:55]: Yes, Mr. Chairman. I would make I would amend my motion to approve. [1:01:56, 1:02:07]: With the request of staff that we uh under exhibit C, page six, remove multifamily apartments and we do put a cap on hookah bars. [1:02:09, 1:02:10]: Yes, sir. [1:02:10, 1:02:10]: Okay. [1:02:11, 1:02:28]: And I'll second it. It's been moved by Mr. Mitten that we approve text amendment case TX twenty twenty-four-zero seven with the following amendments to remove multifamily apartments and condos. [1:02:29, 1:02:35]: from the downtown district and to put a limit on the hookah bars. [1:02:35, 1:02:38]: Mr. Chairman, you may want to state what that limit would be. [1:02:43, 1:02:44]: Mr. Williams, you made the [1:02:45, 1:02:46]: Amen, meh. [1:02:48, 1:02:50]: Uh Chairman Atlanta. [1:02:54, 1:03:00]: I'll I can cap it at seven for now, if that's okay with the motion. Ten. I'll cap it at ten if that's okay with the motion. [1:03:03, 1:03:08]: Are you okay with that, Mr. Minton? Uh actually, Mr. Chairman, the downtown [1:03:10, 1:03:16]: area is actually a very small footprint. Thank you. I think ten is a very high number, personally. I agree. [1:03:17, 1:03:25]: That that was also a fact. So is it my understanding that the downtown area goes from here all the way to Angie's near one thirty eight or no? [1:03:27, 1:03:36]: No, okay, perfect. So I w I will take my stuff back down to six and that is between to go between cigar bars, hookah lounges, and tobacco and vape shops. [1:03:37, 1:03:43]: Uh Mr Chairman, may I ask a question? Maybe we could get some clarification on the downtown. [1:03:44, 1:03:45]: Go ahead, Mr. Tibetan. [1:03:46, 1:03:52]: Okay, well we talking about a cap on things, we have to first establish the distance [1:03:52, 1:03:57]: of what's gonna be covered, see? So when I even if I said ten [1:03:58, 1:04:09]: Uh we need to see what kind of area we're talking about. What what's covering downtown to to consider, even ten or five, or six? And then the other part of that, what what's already here? [1:04:10, 1:04:18]: So I would say if we can get staff to give us an overview of all the parameters to see. [1:04:20, 1:04:23]: Where's downtown and how much of downtown? [1:04:24, 1:04:26]: do we have to work with? [1:04:26, 1:04:33]: Now I I would go along with five or six, which would be fine, but I still need to consider the distance. [1:04:33, 1:04:40]: of how much of area we're covering in order to make a a good decision as to how many numbers we need to cap off. [1:04:41, 1:04:58]: Mr. Chairman, I agree. Mr. Mitten, go ahead. I'd like to retract my motion to approve and have staff, if you could, tell us what the road boundaries are that would give us an idea of what the downtown development area actually looks like. Is that something you can do pretty quickly, Mr. Mitten? I'm sorry, Mr. Linton. [1:04:59, 1:05:01]: You have a map of the downtown district. [1:05:05, 1:05:07]: Handy. I know you have one. [1:05:24, 1:05:40]: Mr. Chair. And while he pulls that up, um, I wanna ask the staff to uh answer Mr. Thibodeau's question. Is our understanding that there are no tobacco vape shops, cigar bars, or hookahs approved now in the city district, downtown district, correct? None, okay. [1:05:58, 1:06:03]: So what you have before you is the inter is the zoning map. [1:06:06, 1:06:12]: And this is the uh downtown village overlay district, which is highlighted in black. [1:06:17, 1:06:17]: Mm-hmm. [1:06:28, 1:06:31]: So it it that's that's the limit right there. [1:06:37, 1:06:38]: Therefore, you must sit up. [1:06:40, 1:06:42]: Uh yes sir that did. Um [1:06:43, 1:06:46]: I will go along with uh Mr. Williams' recommendation. [1:06:50, 1:06:55]: So we have a motion on the floor by Mr. Mitten. [1:06:56, 1:07:01]: To approve text amendment case TX twenty twenty four dash oh seven. [1:07:03, 1:07:11]: uh with adjustments, one being removing the multifamily apartments and condos. [1:07:12, 1:07:18]: And the second one being putting a limit on tobacco and vape shops, ziggle bars and hookah lounges. [1:07:19, 1:07:39]: And that limit, I believe, is at six according to Mr. Williams. Chairman, I would actually looking at the future lanes map, I want to move it to five if that's okay with the motioner. Well well, um yeah, it's okay. I'll I'll just restate it then. Uh the second adjustment to this text amendment case is the lit put an [1:07:39, 1:07:46]: Unlimit on tobacco, vape shops, cigar bars, and hookah lounges to five units. [1:07:49, 1:08:03]: And Mr. Thibodeau, I believe, second that motion. Yes, sir. I second the motion that we have now. All in favor? Let it be known by the sound of aye and the show of hand. Aye. It is unanimous. [1:08:04, 1:08:08]: The motion the amended motion is approved. [1:08:09, 1:08:10]: Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. [1:08:14, 1:08:16]: Thank you all for d diving in. [1:08:26, 1:08:30]: Next item I have is PC board member training. [1:08:31, 1:08:35]: In house in house training for the Planet Commission board members. [1:08:36, 1:08:40]: To be conducted by Miss Jackson, please. [1:08:53, 1:08:54]: Oh shit. [1:09:31, 1:09:34]: So I would like to say good evening. Good evening. [1:09:38, 1:09:53]: So tonight we will um go through a training session regarding planning commission duties, your roles and your responsibilities as a planning commissioner for the city of Stockbridge. [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: So the first question is why are you here? [1:09:58, 1:10:03]: To get a clear understanding of your role, responsibility as a planning commissioner. [1:10:04, 1:10:07]: Also to learn the elements of good decision making. [1:10:08, 1:10:14]: And to learn how to prepare for a meeting and the dynamics of an effective public meeting. [1:10:15, 1:10:35]: So I would like to say kudos to you for willing your willingness to serve as a planning commissioner. I also want to thank you for the contributions you have made to this board, to this process, and your welcoming of staff. Thank you for your time, your forward thinking, and your quality decisions. [1:10:35, 1:10:37]: Night's meeting will guide you in your [1:10:38, 1:10:47]: authority and your decision making, you have the responsibility of helping forming your community and the future here of the City of Stockbridge. [1:10:49, 1:11:05]: This will be a three-part training. So tonight's training will consist of planning commission, roles, your role, your authority, and your powers and duties. The next session will consist of the basis for your recommendation. [1:11:06, 1:11:10]: and making your re recommendation. We will get more in depth in that [1:11:11, 1:11:31]: Training session, the role of the comprehensive plan and future land use map, staff's role, and the staff report will be discussed at that time. The third part of the training will consist of meeting procedures that will detail or enel preparing for the meeting, conducting the meeting. [1:11:31, 1:11:32]: Meeting and the public hearing. [1:11:33, 1:11:42]: how to properly make motions, and we will discuss the Robert Rules of Order, and we will also provide you with legal perspectives. [1:11:46, 1:11:50]: So tonight let's discuss the structure of planning commission. [1:11:52, 1:12:06]: The Planning Commission is comprised of six qualified members, which is yourself. Each member shall be appointed by the mayor and city council. Each member must be a resident of the city of Stockbridge. [1:12:07, 1:12:27]: Your terms of office all members shall be appointed for a term of four years, provided, however, that in the initial appointment three of the members shall be appointed for a term of two years, an appointment to fill any vacancy shall be for the remainder of the unexpired term of four years. [1:12:27, 1:12:28]: Yeah. [1:12:29, 1:12:30]: Removal. [1:12:31, 1:12:40]: Nowwithstanding any provision of the contrary, a member may be removed by a majority vote of mayor and city council. [1:12:41, 1:12:59]: What are the qualifications and compensation for a member of the Planning Commission? In order to be qualified, all members shall complete training for Planning Commission members and shall receive a certificate of completion from the Atlanta Regional Commission. [1:12:59, 1:13:10]: the Carl Vinson Institute or an agency or organization competent to train appointed planning officials within one year of appointment. [1:13:11, 1:13:16]: Each member shall be compensated in a manner prescribed by the mayor and city council. [1:13:18, 1:13:38]: So to have a meeting, we must have a quorum. And that quorum here will be four members must be present. Four members shall constitute a quorum for the transition of a transaction of business. All rules, policies, and procedures governing the Planning Commission shall hereinafter. [1:13:38, 1:13:40]: after governed by this requirement. [1:13:45, 1:13:50]: So let's get into the powers and duties. [1:13:55, 1:13:58]: What are your powers and what are your duties? [1:13:59, 1:14:02]: But first let's discuss who you are. [1:14:08, 1:14:23]: So the American Planning Association defines planning officials as any appointed or elected official involved in the planning decisions for the betterment of a community, region, state, or c country. [1:14:24, 1:14:29]: I believe that should be counting. But however, you are a planning official. [1:14:30, 1:14:35]: Your job is one of public trust. It is one of [1:14:35, 1:14:44]: the most meaningful ways in which you can serve your community. So again, we thank you for taking on this responsibility. [1:14:45, 1:14:47]: You have the powers to amend or [1:14:48, 1:14:49]: Staff's conditions. [1:14:50, 1:14:57]: You have the power to call special call meetings according to the procedures established by your body. [1:14:57, 1:15:03]: You serve as the recommending body for the mayor and city council of the city of Stockbridge. [1:15:04, 1:15:16]: You also have the authority to prepare, adopt, and amend the plan of conservation and development, and you also can review all proposed municipal improvements. [1:15:20, 1:15:27]: You also have the ability to make, review, and make final decisions, such as a subdivision plat. [1:15:27, 1:15:47]: You also can review and make recommendations to city council on matters that pertain to rezonings and amendments to the official zoning map, variances, special use permits, amendments to the UDC, conditions to variances, and conditions to special use. [1:15:47, 1:15:48]: [4552.7, 4565.7]: So now we're going to get into the Robert Rules cheat sheet that you may have ahead of you or in your packet. So if you want to pull that out, our city attorney is going to discuss that with you. [1:16:15, 1:16:20]: have that situation on some boards that buy so I do think that this [1:16:25, 1:16:45]: Really well versed in the procedures of motion making and amending motions and calling for a second, even though it sounds like it may be rudimentary in some aspect, a lot of owners or andor city councils sometimes have issues making motions. [1:16:45, 1:16:53]: Um amending motion, substituting the motion, and this board seems to have a good handle on that. But I do want to go through um [1:16:55, 1:16:56]: That slide. [1:17:32, 1:17:46]: I can't see it on the screen. It's too small for me. Um, so we know that in order to bring something to the floor, it needs to be in the form of a motion. And a member [1:17:46, 1:18:06]: As it says here, a member raises their hand when no one else has the floor, and the chair can recognize the commissioner that wants to make the motion. In this situation with this board, because you guys are mainly a recommending body, I do think it's important to in the body of [1:18:06, 1:18:21]: your motion include that because sometimes people in the gallery may not understand that this motion or this vote that you all are making is not the final vote, that it is going to have to go to mayor and city council. Thank you. [1:18:21, 1:18:23]: Um and so because of that [1:18:24, 1:18:44]: When you do have these motions to make recommendations to Mayor and City Council, I always advise that the motion have that type of language within it. I make a motion that we recommend to Mayor and City Council that this item be approved per staff's recommendation or with whatever, however you want to say it. [1:18:43, 1:19:03]: But I do think because this body is mostly a recommending body, it's important for the people in the gallery to hear that so that they understand. And the chair is pretty good about telling them we're recommending, you know, this is not a final decision. But just technically speaking, that motion I believe should should include. [1:19:03, 1:19:05]: Yeah. [1:19:06, 1:19:06]: Um [1:19:07, 1:19:23]: Then of course, just like tonight, I think Commissioner Williams ha made a second, but he wanted to discuss. He wasn't ready to just make a second by itself. He still wanted to have a point of discussion. And so if there's ever a main motion that's made. [1:19:23, 1:19:34]: and you all someone wants to make a second, that second does not have to automatically mean that you agree with the motion. You can say, I make a second for discussion. [1:19:35, 1:19:51]: And that allows for a question to be had or some back and forth between the commissioners if there's some you know points that you all want to make before you make that final uh vote. Um but it does preserve the motion being on the floor so it doesn't fail for lack of emotion. [1:19:52, 1:20:11]: Um and today you also saw where you have a motion that did fail because of the original motion that was made. You all did not have enough I votes for that. So then that failed for lack of a full vote or or majority vote, and then it went back. [1:20:11, 1:20:31]: To the floor for a second motion, and then you all made a motion, and that one uh was able to pass with the majority vote. So, like I said, you guys seem to have a really good handle on how to make motions and seconds and amending and all of that, and it does help the meetings go uh much more smoothly when it's time to make a [1:20:31, 1:20:33]: emotion. Um [1:20:33, 1:20:51]: That's pretty much the gist of it in terms of Roberts Rules and that main motion making. Um, if you all have any questions about that process, we can discuss it here. But my main thing that I want you to have a takeaway is starting to implement that recommendation. [1:20:51, 1:20:59]: Language in the motion for all of these matters that come before you that you do not have final decision-making authority on. [1:20:59, 1:21:16]: Just so for for two purposes, it preserves the record, and secondly, for people who may not understand the role that this body has as not being a final decision-making body, it informs them that this is not going to be the final vote. It will go to mayor and city council. [1:21:17, 1:21:19]: Is there any question on this part? [1:21:21, 1:21:26]: All right. I d I do have a question because it came up last meeting. [1:21:27, 1:21:30]: And I went back and looked at the bylaws in [1:21:33, 1:21:37]: From my interpretation, the bylaws are silent on the issue. [1:21:37, 1:21:41]: And that's the issue of whether the chairman votes. [1:21:42, 1:21:44]: And if he doesn't vote, is he abstaining? [1:21:46, 1:21:55]: So and we do have the bylaws. Did you pass them out, Kedra? We have coffee before. Oh you do have them? Okay. Um, let me get my coffee. [1:22:10, 1:22:12]: I mean required for specific session chair. [1:22:13, 1:22:20]: No, um I'm not because it didn't address it in the bylaws. [1:22:20, 1:22:20]: Excellent. [1:22:28, 1:22:37]: I was following custom. Since I've been on the board, the chairman has not voted. And I d and since we are only a six member board. [1:22:38, 1:22:40]: I don't know. [1:22:43, 1:22:49]: It would make sense if the ch if the chair voted because ultimately you could always end up in a tie. [1:22:52, 1:22:54]: So I'll do a [1:22:55, 1:23:09]: review of these if the if your bylaws do not and that would be unusual because typically the bylaws do have the um language in terms of when the chair can and cannot vote. [1:23:10, 1:23:18]: Mr. Chairman, seven dot one dot one on page nine addresses tie votes, but it doesn't say anything about the chair. [1:23:20, 1:23:24]: Or how the tie is broken. It just says a tie boat results in a failed motion. [1:23:26, 1:23:27]: That's all it states. [1:23:29, 1:23:49]: So it does say the chair shall not vote unless there is a tie of the board members who are present. And that's typically the language that you find in bylaws. Um I always see that. So typically the chair is not able to vote unless there is a tie. So if and that's why I was saying tonight, because everyone [1:23:49, 1:23:58]: Was present, we weren't gonna have that situation. Exactly. But last month, we because um Commissioner Planchon was not here. [1:23:59, 1:24:07]: You you potentially had the ability to vote or needed to vote if there was a tie, because you would have had two. So typically. [1:24:07, 1:24:26]: This is the language that you find in bylaws is that the chair does not vote unless there is a tie. And if there is a tie and it's also with the mayor, usually the mayor doesn't vote unless there's a tie. And then if there is a tie, the chair will will cast his vote. I just wanted to clarify because so no one would [1:24:27, 1:24:39]: conclude that the chair was abstaining when in fact he wasn't not ex abstaining at all. Yeah, abstention is completely different. Completely different. Yeah. Yes. Thank you. Mr. Chair, can I ask a question please? [1:24:40, 1:24:41]: Go right answer. [1:24:42, 1:25:02]: Yes, uh at our last meeting when he had the ability to vote because there was um you know a tie. But then we table it and brought it to this meeting. So I need you to explain that to me where he didn't have the ability to vote last time. Yes. But y you know, and we had to come back. [1:25:02, 1:25:22]: To it. Explain that to me. There is language in the bylaws that allow for that, and it has to be upon the consent of the applicant. So if the applicant who was here tonight agrees with the um tabling or continuing the public hearing in the event of [1:25:21, 1:25:41]: They're able to have a full body, then they're able to go ahead and get it continued, which is what happened tonight. So it's up to the applicant to say, you know what, I'll go ahead and let you guys vote, even though I don't have the the um ability to have the full body in front of me, or I will go ahead and continue it to the next meeting, which is [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: what she agreed to do last month. But the bylaws um allow for that. [1:25:51, 1:25:52]: I keep dressed. [1:25:58, 1:25:59]: Thank you, Mr. Ross. [1:25:59, 1:25:59]: Yeah. [1:26:04, 1:26:05]: Project updates. [1:26:10, 1:26:20]: Oh I'm sorry. Did We're almost done. I'm I'm sorry. I apologize, Miss Jackson. Please. Yes, no worries. Yes, that's why we're gonna break this down because I know [1:26:21, 1:26:30]: Everyone has had a long day and we just want to get home. But let us just finish. I think I have a few more slides and then we'll wrap it up. [1:26:31, 1:26:34]: Okay, so why do we plan? We plan. [1:26:34, 1:26:50]: Planning considers the present conditions resources of a community and provides the roadmap to our future. It ensures that future development will occur in the way in the location and the location that the community wants it to. [1:26:50, 1:27:01]: It also allows for economic development while protecting the overall vision that the community has for itself. In short, you have to plan for the future. [1:27:01, 1:27:03]: Community that you want. [1:27:03, 1:27:16]: I say this to say that the next few slides will get into the different types of applications that you review as a board. The first one that we're going to discuss are variances. [1:27:21, 1:27:41]: And if you like me, your eyes can barely see this, but um we're gonna pertain to section 10. Section 10 discusses the variances, administrative variances, and administrative appeals. But what I'm gonna do is kind of hone in on variances and administrative variances. [1:27:41, 1:27:45]: I don't think this board has ever entertained an appeal. [1:27:49, 1:27:50]: Not sure. [1:27:54, 1:27:57]: So what is a variance? [1:27:58, 1:28:15]: And let me get that. So a variance is a request for relief from regulations in the city's zoning ordinances. It stems from a literal enforcement of the provisions of the UDC. [1:28:15, 1:28:20]: in an individual case resulting in unnecessary hardship. [1:28:21, 1:28:41]: You may have a homeowner come before you. They may not be able to build a home because of the setback regulations. They may come to you asking you to maybe reduce the front yard or the side yard to allow a construction of a single family home. That is an example of a variance. Um before you. [1:28:41, 1:28:47]: you should have in your packet, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. Um [1:28:49, 1:28:53]: the criteria of a variance. If you do not, we'll just go over it. [1:29:01, 1:29:06]: So if you do not, I apologize. But we want to look at section [1:29:09, 1:29:29]: 10.1.3. So before you before you consider a case, we provide you with a packet, and your packet consists of staff reports. Um if you read the staff report, there's a criteria that staff follows to come to a conclusion. [1:29:29, 1:29:49]: On whether staff is going to recommend an approval, denial. We hardly recommend a deferral, mainly that comes from you. So I'm not going to read each one of these, but there are 10 criteria we review in in regards to variances. [1:29:49, 1:30:02]: Um the first one is is the request an extraordinary a and exceptional circumstance pertaining to the particular piece of property in question [1:30:02, 1:30:06]: Is this due to its size, shape? [1:30:06, 1:30:26]: Topography that are not found on other properties in the same zoning district. So those are that's one of the criteria. Most that come before us do have a hardship due to their size, due to the topo, or it could be the shape of the property. If the shape of a property is a triangle. [1:30:26, 1:30:43]: Angular shape and it may have state waters on the property, that is a hardship to build a single family detached home. So those types of variances are brought to you. Now, as far as administrative variances, sometimes it's a small [1:30:43, 1:30:51]: hardship that they may be facing f um, for instance, um, maybe the corner of their lot is [1:30:52, 1:31:12]: intruding into their neighbors yacht lot. And they may want to put up a fence, but they are not able to because of that small piece. Um those are administrative variances that we can handle in-house. If it's 1% or less, um we can handle those in-house and um those are not normally brought to you. [1:31:13, 1:31:33]: Um as far as administrative appeals, there are times we make a decision administratively on a property and that applicant or agent may disagree with staff's decision and so they want to appeal it. And when they decide to appeal it, it comes before you. [1:31:33, 1:31:35]: And then you decide if [1:31:35, 1:31:50]: staff's decision was correct or the applicant is correct. But I won't go into too many details um of that. We can pick mu more up on that um during part two of our discussion. [1:31:52, 1:32:04]: So this is kind of what I just went over as far as the different types of variances. So the two that we look at is a regular variance and the second is a minister in administrative variance. [1:32:08, 1:32:28]: So the variances that come before you, they do require legal requirements before you see them. And that includes notices being sent out. So when um first when a ve uh a person wants to apply for a variance, they must have a [1:32:28, 1:32:48]: pre-application meeting with staff. That's a requirement for all major zoning um petitions. And in that meeting, we may go over the probability of a denial or approval. We may discuss some changes they may to need to make to their staff, their site [1:32:48, 1:33:08]: Plan and other pertinent information. So let's say the applicant is ready to move forward, they submit the application, and so the due diligence begins. Staff is preparing legal ads to send to the newspaper to advertise the petition. [1:33:08, 1:33:25]: detail and when I mean detail we're providing legal information about the property that includes the size of the property, the zoning, what is the request, and providing the land use and also the land lot of the property. [1:33:26, 1:33:39]: So then after that, um we prepare letters to send to the applicant. The applicant is responsible for mailing out notices to property owners within 500 feet of their property. [1:33:40, 1:34:00]: So I just wanna come back a little bit to the legal notices. So just for your information, legal notices must go out 30 days prior to the hearing. Um so the applicant has that responsibility. If they do not, we cannot move the the case forward. They will have to go to the next [1:34:00, 1:34:00]: Cycle. [1:34:02, 1:34:07]: So let's say it does come before you and is denied by you. [1:34:07, 1:34:09]: If it's denied [1:34:09, 1:34:13]: The applicant will have to wait six months or [1:34:14, 1:34:34]: After they wait six months, they have to come to us with new information previously considered by the petitioner. Once six months has passed, then they can resubmit. Um, and let's just say they did not agree with your decision, they can appeal your decision. [1:34:34, 1:34:41]: And they have thirty days from the date of the deflection to appeal that decision. [1:34:42, 1:34:44]: Do you have any questions at this point? [1:34:45, 1:35:05]: Yeah, very quickly. So the 30 days before public hearing where the applicant mails the letters, how does staff know because we have had issues come before this board where there's been debate between the applicant and people, obviously people that are against a a variance or a zoning who's [1:35:05, 1:35:10]: We said we never received a letter and I don't think any of us have ever heard a case where [1:35:11, 1:35:16]: You know, it was confirmed, yay or nay, that they did or didn't. So how does staff know that? [1:35:16, 1:35:36]: Great question. So we do require them to send certified letters out to the surrounding property letters. They must submit proof to staff at least a week prior to coming before you. We do keep records of those. So if you ever want to see a record of the mail property. [1:35:36, 1:35:40]: property notices, you're more than welcome to ask. [1:35:40, 1:35:42]: Okay. You're welcome. [1:35:43, 1:35:44]: I'll speak Chair. [1:35:45, 1:35:45]: Go ahead and hear sir. [1:35:46, 1:35:47]: Um [1:35:47, 1:35:56]: Well, do we have to ask whether or not they sent out letters to the homeowners? Uh shouldn't that be something presented [1:35:57, 1:35:59]: When we're here at a meeting. [1:36:02, 1:36:12]: So to answer the first part of your question, no, you do not have to ask. If you want, you can. Secondly, no, we do not have to present that information to you. [1:36:13, 1:36:16]: Well, we've had in the past where uh [1:36:17, 1:36:37]: People have told us that they did not get letters uh information pertaining uh what the developer would was doing around their property. So should we just ask in the future if uh it involves property owners and developers, that do you have any letters that's been [1:36:37, 1:36:42]: been put out or should we say present us with a letter that you have presented to the community? [1:36:50, 1:37:05]: they've already determined that the notifications have found outly been met. That requirement has been met. So if it makes it to the agenda and comes before you for decision, that internal staff [1:37:05, 1:37:15]: legal notification letter going out requirement has already been vetted by staff has already been confirmed that that has been met and it's now on the agenda. [1:37:25, 1:37:37]: Mr. Chair, if I could ask, go ahead. Could we add that? Would it violate any bylaw for us to ask that that be included in staff presentation? Just I think it taps the entire [1:37:38, 1:37:43]: Proceeding because then you're not gonna have those people standing up saying, I never received it if [1:38:02, 1:38:02]: Yeah. [1:38:10, 1:38:15]: That that procedure was met, they can put that in their staff report. Um, and also I just want [1:38:20, 1:38:26]: The the final public hearing, like I said earlier, will be before mayor city council. So with variances [1:38:26, 1:38:32]: It's still the same motion for recommendation to Mayor City Council and the slide says [1:38:33, 1:38:38]: If denied an applicant has to wait six months, but that's if denied by mancy. [1:38:41, 1:38:46]: All right. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Ross, Ms. Jackson. Thank you, City Attorney, for making that clarification. Yes. [1:38:48, 1:39:08]: So next we're going to move to special use permits. I'm sure you have had a share of those that come before you, especially at the last meeting. So, what is a special use permit? It's a use, it's a type of use that are that is not classified as a permitted use in zoning districts, therefore, it's only a [1:39:08, 1:39:28]: Allowed by a use permit. Special use permit in the interests of the public health, safety, and welfare. The city council may exercise limited discretion in evaluating the site proposed for use that requires a special use permit. In exercising, [1:39:28, 1:39:35]: The city council shall consider each of the following. [1:39:37, 1:39:57]: So here, um the first the the planning commission makes a recommendation. As you know, you're a recommending board. You can recommend approval, denial, or deferral. Once it gets to city council, the city council makes the final decision on whether that use or that zoning petition is approved. [1:39:57, 1:40:15]: Chapter 9. or Section 9.2.6 speaks on the use permit considerations. For sake of time, we won't go over each criteria that is reviewed during or looking at special use permits. [1:40:16, 1:40:31]: And I want to add this uh last statement. If a special use permit is defeated by a mayor and city council, the same property shall not be considered for a special use permit until one year. [1:40:32, 1:40:37]: So they will have to come back after that year, start over again. [1:40:39, 1:40:59]: Before you are the criteria I just spoke of that we won't really go into details, but as you can see here, um there before you um I'll just read one. Um so we do look at um outdoor lighting, hours and manner of operation. Those are some of the criteria we review in terms [1:40:59, 1:41:01]: terms of special use permits. [1:41:10, 1:41:30]: To just discuss with you all the variances and the special use permits. Both of those types of zoning decisions or zoning applications are constrained to criteria that is outlined in the ordinance. So it's either going to be that the variances. [1:41:32, 1:41:32]: Right. [1:41:45, 1:42:05]: community body. But a lot of times you'll have people come to the meetings and they're talking about things that really are not before you because what you have to focus on for your recommendation are those considerations which are in the staff report, which staff considers when they make their recommendations. [1:42:04, 1:42:05]: A [1:42:05, 1:42:25]: So the germane questions before you are whether or not the applicant meets those special needs considerations or meets the considerations for variances. Even though during the public hearing process you'll hear so many different things from the audience and from the public. [1:42:25, 1:42:30]: When it's time to make your motion, you want to bring it back. [1:42:30, 1:42:32]: to what's before you in the application. [1:42:33, 1:42:35]: А ветні апліканц. [1:42:36, 1:42:41]: those objective criteria because that's what you have to make your recommendation based on. [1:42:42, 1:42:55]: So let you know everyone's gonna say what they need to say, but if you have questions of staff staff, does the applicant meet the considerations of the special use commits? Or [1:43:00, 1:43:07]: spaces, does it deal with the amount of location of open space? You know, making that discussion with staff. [1:43:07, 1:43:10]: More um consistent with [1:43:18, 1:43:19]: Part of the [1:43:20, 1:43:20]: Or [1:43:21, 1:43:40]: So just make sure that after that public hearing back and forth, when it's time to make a motion, it's based on whether or not the applicant meets the requirements of the special use permit or the requirements of the variants, because that is outlined for you in the UBC and in the staff report. [1:43:46, 1:43:48]: Next we'll move to rezoning. [1:43:51, 1:44:11]: So, what is a rezoning? It's an action or process to change the zoning classification assigned to a property for the purpose of land use. Planning and Zoning Commission: Your job is to make the recommendation to mayor and city council. The final decision is then made by city council. [1:44:11, 1:44:22]: This does require a public hearing notice and sign post it on the property. Here, the terms of or the dates are [1:44:22, 1:44:33]: A little different. So here you could advertise fifteen days prior, but no more than forty-five days before the public hearing. [1:44:34, 1:44:54]: Impact analysis is determined from section 9.2.2. There are 14 analysis questions that we do review in making our recommendation, staff's recommendation for an approval or denial. Conditions may be attached as deemed necessary to a [1:44:54, 1:44:57]: rezoning case. [1:45:00, 1:45:04]: So next we'll get into the comprehensive plan amendment. [1:45:06, 1:45:16]: So a comprehensive plan amendment provides a vision for the future of the community along with steps that are needed to make the vision a reality. [1:45:16, 1:45:19]: It is the basis for land use regulations. [1:45:20, 1:45:23]: Planning and zoning commissions, what is your [1:45:24, 1:45:36]: role here. So again, you review the case, you look at the criteria, you make a recommendation. Your again, your recommendation consists of approval, [1:45:36, 1:45:37]: denaio [1:45:37, 1:45:42]: or deferral if you need additional information from either staff or the applicant. [1:45:43, 1:45:45]: The final decision is made by city council. [1:45:47, 1:45:51]: It requires a public hearing notice and sign posted on a property. [1:45:52, 1:46:10]: Here the legal notification is 30 days prior, but no more than 40 days prior to the public hearing. Impact analysis is determined from section 9.2.9. Conditions may be attached as deemed necessary. [1:46:15, 1:46:20]: Modifications. We have both minor and major modification. [1:46:21, 1:46:27]: And to get more information about that, you can review section nine point two point four. [1:46:28, 1:46:41]: So what is a major modification? It's a requested change of the zoning conditions. It includes allowable uses, maximum density, or compatibility requirements. [1:46:42, 1:47:02]: Here, your role, your duty are still the same. You made the recommendation. The final decision comes from city council. Um the legal notice here is 30 days prior, no more than 40 days of the public hearing. Conditions may be deemed attached. [1:47:02, 1:47:05]: may be attached as deemed necessary. [1:47:06, 1:47:26]: Minor modification is more administratively. Um the minor could be more of a design of the site plan. Um for instance, you may we may condition the site plan. Well that's not a good example. Let's say the [1:47:26, 1:47:42]: Layout of the site, you may approve, right? You you may approve um a residential development and you may like the layout. But when it gets to engineering, they may have to change the layout. [1:47:43, 1:47:46]: It could be due uh to Topo, it could be [1:47:46, 1:48:06]: Um, to um they may have to move the detention pun, whatever the the the instance is, it's not always going to be the site plan or the layout in which they provide to you. So say they came back to staff, they need to make some changes, now they may need to go through a [1:48:06, 1:48:13]: minor modification and that minor modification could be tied to um [1:48:15, 1:48:22]: I don't want to say necessarily a condition, but sometimes we may say the s the layout must be [1:48:22, 1:48:31]: um condition to something similar to what you provided to staff and planning commission. So they may have to change it and they just need a modification. [1:48:32, 1:48:32]: Um [1:48:33, 1:48:44]: For instance, we have a development where they had to change the layout of the street. Um, they started off with a cul-de-sac, but they had to change it due to [1:48:44, 1:48:45]: Um the [1:48:46, 1:48:47]: One of those [1:48:47, 1:48:48]: Condition stated that [1:48:49, 1:48:52]: The townhomes cannot have individual trash cans. [1:48:52, 1:48:54]: So because of that they had to make [1:48:55, 1:49:00]: The street a uh what do you call it? Uh um uh narrow [1:49:00, 1:49:05]: Head or I can't think of the term, but um a narrow neck. [1:49:06, 1:49:15]: the the different terms of the street, but however, for lack of better word, um, they have to come to staff to do a minor modification. So [1:49:16, 1:49:23]: Hammerhead, that's what I'm looking for. So they have to change the street to a hammerhead. Um even though it's a small change. [1:49:24, 1:49:35]: We condition it, uh one of the conditions forced them to do it, so therefore they're not meeting that condition. And administratively we reviewed it and made a decision. [1:49:41, 1:49:57]: So this ends our discussion for tonight. Part two, we're going to get in more discussion of your role, um, of the comprehensive plan, the future land use map. We're going to talk more about staff's role. [1:49:57, 1:50:17]: And the staff report, you know, what do we do when it's when we're providing our analysis to you? And also we're going to get into more of a legal perspective in terms of these discussions. So we do thank you for your time. And um we will [1:50:17, 1:50:20]: let you know when the next training will be. [1:50:21, 1:50:25]: Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Jackson. Thank you very much. [1:50:28, 1:50:29]: Excellent. [1:50:31, 1:50:32]: We appreciate it. [1:50:33, 1:50:33]: Thank you [1:50:38, 1:50:40]: Are you doing project updates as well? [1:50:41, 1:50:44]: Is that been a sign to you or is it someone else? [1:50:45, 1:51:05]: Project updates, you will get more test amendments before you. We do plan to make some changes to the code. Um, so one, it will be more um understandable to those that are reading the code, and of course, we just want to implement um changes. [1:51:05, 1:51:13]: That will be um conducive of us moving forward in the future. So you will receive more test amendments in the future. [1:51:14, 1:51:15]: Thank you. [1:51:16, 1:51:20]: Do you have any other comments or any other comments from any members of staff? [1:51:26, 1:51:29]: Must be time to go home. Everybody's quiet. [1:51:32, 1:51:33]: Any comments from the board. [1:51:36, 1:51:38]: Been a great boy tonight. Thank you. [1:51:39, 1:51:40]: Thank all of you. [1:51:48, 1:51:50]: The next item is adjournment. I need a motion, please. [1:51:51, 1:51:52]: So moved here. [1:51:52, 1:51:53]: A second it, Harold. [1:51:54, 1:52:02]: Mr. Williams has motion made a motion to adjourn. Mr. Thibodeau has seconded. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. [1:52:04, 1:52:06]: The meeting of the joint. Thank you. [1:52:10, 1:52:10]: Yeah. [1:52:13, 1:52:17]: Trying to stay away. I can dig it, man. [1:52:20, 1:52:20]: HAPTE! [1:52:21, 1:52:24]: Maybe we get him a service coffee. [1:52:24, 1:52:30]: We have to start having coffee at the meeting.
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    --- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-10-14 source: 2024-10-14_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:36, 0:00:48]: What it amounts to is that uh we have several proclamations that I need to read and issue out this evening. Uh Council Thomas, if you want to join me, come on down please if you'd like. Okay. Yeah, we're we're we're live. [0:00:48, 0:00:49]: So I'm gonna start with uh [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: own um [0:00:52, 0:00:56]: Fire pr fire prevention month, right? Own Chief Wells. Well, come on up, sir. [0:00:59, 0:01:02]: We're gonna come come on this let's see, come on this side. [0:01:06, 0:01:08]: How are you doing, sir? Oh great. All right, good. Thank you. [0:01:08, 0:01:12]: So City of Procla, City Stockbridge Pro Recognition of Fire Prevention Month. [0:01:13, 0:01:22]: Whereas October is fire prevention month, whereas the goal of the fire prevention month is to raise fire safety awareness and help protect families, excuse me, homes and families. [0:01:22, 0:01:27]: Whereas in nineteen twenty two the National Fire Protection Association NFPA [0:01:27, 0:01:34]: Named the second week of October Fire Prevention Week in commemoration of the Great Chicago Fire in eighteen seventy one. [0:01:34, 0:01:45]: Today we celebrate the Fire Prevention Week and month by spreading fire safety awareness and educating families, students, and communities across the United States with the help from our partners and local fire departments. [0:01:46, 0:02:06]: Whereas a first alert is the most trusted brand of fire safety and is dedicated to protecting lives moments and encourages you to gather your family to discuss fire safety awareness. Whereas installing reliable protection and being proactive and important, it is important to help keep your loved ones safe from the fire or carbon. [0:02:06, 0:02:07]: [128.0, 148.0]: Almost three out of every five home fire deaths result from fires with no smoke alarms or no working smoke alarms. Carbon monoxide is the number one cause of accidental poisoning in the United States. Unattended cooking is the number one cause of home fires, and the fire department responds to a fire every 23 seconds in America. [0:02:28, 0:02:40]: Therefore I am Anthony S. For by virtual authority vests in me as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of Stockbridge City Council members, Elton Alexander, Yelanda, Barber, Cowberry, Lakeisha Gantt, and Afonso Thomas, we hereby proclaim the week of October. [0:02:41, 0:02:41]: Um [0:02:42, 0:02:44]: The month actually been the month of October, Fire Prevention Month. [0:02:45, 0:02:51]: in Stockbridge, Georgia, and with the support of educational efforts to spread awareness about s smoke alarms and fire safety. [0:02:51, 0:03:02]: A witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in Great Seal City Stockbridge, Georgia, the fourteenth day of October year of our Lord, two thousand twenty four, and signed a proclamation along with our clerk for Nessa Holiday. [0:03:02, 0:03:14]: And I want to issue this to our our fire marshal for the city of Stockbridge. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Well, you want any words first before you always get a chance to speak if you like? [0:03:14, 0:03:34]: Well, I just wanna say that the proclamation speaks speaks for itself. And I wanna uh thank the city of Stockbridge for bringing me on to be able to service our business and our community to make sure that we have a safe environment. I guess to know I I get a chance firsthand to learn all about business owners and people. So I just wanna say thank you to the [0:03:34, 0:03:45]: the city for giving me this opportunity. I appreciate you guys. I'm accepting on this on behalf of all of public safety throughout Henry County. [0:03:47, 0:04:07]: I wanna take this opportunity to also just say that Chief Wells and I again will be partnering um in the next few weeks to give out smoke detectors. I think it's very important that we have our homes and our property safe. I know during Thanksgiving and Christmas, we do a lot of cooking. [0:04:07, 0:04:27]: So we just wanna make sure that all households are safe and properly, properly monitored. So sometimes, you know, we leave things on the stove and we forget and those kind of things. So I just wanna thank the chief for every year he partnered with me and I partnered with him. [0:04:27, 0:04:47]: To make sure that we reach out to all families and make sure that their homes are somewhat protected or at least having that alert in your homes when things sort of get out of whack. So I just want to thank the chief again for that. And I appreciate you, Kevin. So just listen out, we will uh shortly [0:04:47, 0:04:49]: [289.5, 293.9]: time and a location. So as long as they last [0:04:54, 0:05:04]: Feel free to come out and get one if you're not if your home is not equipped at this point in time. Thank you. [0:05:15, 0:05:17]: Yeah, thank you. Thank you. [0:05:20, 0:05:22]: Okay, I'll I'll take it now. [0:05:28, 0:05:38]: This actually proclamation is in recognition of National Hispanic Heritage Month. And uh Angie, you and your family can come forward if you want to bring anybody else with you. [0:05:44, 0:05:47]: We might have to shift over. Yeah, well. Oh, you need the mic though. Yeah, we got the mic right here. [0:05:54, 0:06:07]: Okay. Everybody come on up. We'll gather up, right? Okay. You might have to double up, triple up, spread out. Some on the other side of the some on this side as well? On the other side of the rail. [0:06:09, 0:06:29]: All right. Okay. All right. So let's tell you what, let me zoom right in. Okay. National Hispanic Heritage Month, whereas each year Americans observe National Hispanic Heritage Month annually from September fifteenth to October fifteenth by celebrating the contributions and influence of Hispanic Americans to the history, culture, and [0:06:28, 0:06:36]: Achievements in the United States of America. Citizens whose ancestors came from Spain, Mexico, Caribbean, Central, and South America. [0:06:36, 0:06:48]: Whereas the observation of started in nineteen sixty eight as a Hispanic Heritage Week under President Lyndon Johnson and was uh expanded by President Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty eight. [0:06:48, 0:06:52]: to cover a thirty day period starting in September fifteenth and ending october fifteenth. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: And it's enacted into law. [0:06:55, 0:06:58]: on sa august seventeenth, nineteen eighty eight, as a approved. [0:06:58, 0:07:01]: And on approval to public law one hundred dash four two. [0:07:02, 0:07:19]: Whereas the day in September fifteenth, significant because of the anniversary of independence of Latin American countries, Costa Rica Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua, in addition to Mexico and Chile, celebrate their independence days on September sixteenth and September eighteenth, respectively. [0:07:19, 0:07:21]: Also Columbus Day is day law. [0:07:21, 0:07:41]: Dalla De La Rosa, I believe that's pronounced it right. Okay. Yeah, but that's right. Okay. Which is October 12th, falls within a third-day period. And whereas this year's theme, everything is possible, everything is possible for Latinos, great economic growth, innovation, competitiveness, stronger and middle class, and a set of values centered on family, hard work, opposition. Optimism. [0:07:41, 0:08:01]: Excuse me. And whereas the city of Stockbridge continues to support the Hispanic and Latin community and encourages everyone to celebrate the Hispanic and Latin culture in and around the Stockbridge community and surrounding area. Now, therefore, Anthony Sforber, Virtual Authority of SMD, is the mayor of the City of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander. [0:08:01, 0:08:21]: Anonymous, Barber Cowberry, Lakesa Gantt, Afonso Thomas do hereby proclaim September 15th, October 15th as Hispanic Heritage Month, Great City of Stockbridge. And witness thereof, I have here on new set my hand in Great Seal, City Stockbridge, Georgia. This is the ninth day of September, year of our Lord, 2024, and I signed it along with our prayer for Nessa Hall. [0:08:21, 0:08:26]: holiday but we know this is October 14th, but congratulations. [0:08:27, 0:08:38]: Yeah. First of all, I wanna thank God because everything without him, nothing none of this would've been possible. Second, that community that gave me [0:08:38, 0:08:49]: the entire support since I opened for days one. And to my family, my daughter, my mom, my aunt, my friends, my workers, I'm very tired. Thank you so much. [0:08:50, 0:08:54]: All right. [0:08:55, 0:09:00]: Come on down. Come on down. [0:09:00, 0:09:00]: Oh. [0:09:03, 0:09:13]: Come on, someone someone come on come on the sweet five when you sit in the back. So the people come up. All right. All right. [0:09:14, 0:09:15]: Yeah, you want to come up. [0:09:15, 0:09:21]: There you go. You good? I don't want blocking with this. [0:09:27, 0:09:29]: Awesome. One more. [0:09:33, 0:09:34]: Mm-hmm. [0:09:37, 0:09:40]: I think it's a [0:09:41, 0:09:50]: Are they here to receive another one? Why do you expect it? Well I'm gonna have to deal with I'm gonna wait till the end for this because there are pretty more folks with the other. Okay, thank you. [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: Ms. Totter? [0:10:06, 0:10:07]: Come on up, please. [0:10:08, 0:10:28]: This next proclamation, ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Tucker is here from the Haven House, but it's this is with domestic violence. So if anybody else is is uh wants to join us for reference to domestic violence, please do so. This is a proclamation and uh how you doing by the way? Good, how are you? Oh, just fine. Domestic Violence Awareness Month, whereas domestic [0:10:28, 0:10:48]: Violence is a pattern of abusive behaviors characterized by one partner's need to control the other by using a range of tactics that can include physical, sexual, emotional, economic, psychological, and/or technological actions, threats of actions, or patterns of coercive behavior. Whereas domestic violence often starts early and [0:10:48, 0:11:04]: one's lifetime with almost three-quarters of female victims of intimate partner violence reporting they were the first victimized before age 25 and more than one in four uh vis one in four first victimized before the age of 18. [0:11:05, 0:11:25]: Whereas domestic violence must be understood as more than an individual behavior, as it's rooted in social values that place importance on the people having power over others and allows violence against women, other groups to occur at a minimal as well as or no accountability. Whereas this year's theme of domestic violence awareness month is heal, hold. [0:11:24, 0:11:42]: and center as we recognize and embrace the diverse ways that survivors and communities heal from violence and oppression. And center those most marginalized in their other efforts to end domestic violence. Now therefore I Anthony Sfor by Verse Authority Vestan Me is Mary City, Star Pridge, Georgia. [0:11:43, 0:11:53]: On behalf of city council members, Elton Alexander, Lana, Barber Cowberry, Nakisha Gannon, Afonso Thomas to hear prime proclaim the month of October as domestic violence awareness month. [0:11:53, 0:11:57]: on Thursday, October 17th, 2024, is Purple Thursday. [0:11:57, 0:12:03]: And now showing day of action to raise awareness of wearing purple and showing commitment to ending domestic violence. [0:12:03, 0:12:12]: A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of city Stockbridge, Georgia, on the fourteenth day of October year of our Lord, two thousand twenty four, and I signed a proclamation along with a clear finesse hall. [0:12:15, 0:12:19]: [739.7, 750.0]: I just wanna accept this on behalf of all survivors and victims and thank the city of Stockbridge. Thank y'all so much for this. No problem, no problem. You were here, did you have any comments or you just you at all? [0:12:30, 0:12:33]: Ah thanks she said it off. Okay, fantastic. Thank you. Come on down we'll take a [0:12:34, 0:12:36]: What was it? [0:12:36, 0:12:51]: Uh there is oh there is two. There is two. Guess what? There you have it. I'm sorry. [0:13:00, 0:13:01]: Oh. [0:13:07, 0:13:12]: Thank you so far. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:13:26, 0:13:28]: The next proclamation World Mental Health Day. [0:13:29, 0:13:34]: And I don't know if there's anybody here to receive this. If not, I'll continue to read it. Okay. [0:13:34, 0:13:52]: So, whereas World Health Organization recognized World Mental Health Day, October tenth of every year, this day provides an opportunity for all stakeholders working on mental health issues to talk about their work and what more needs to be done to make mental health care a reality for people worldwide. [0:13:53, 0:14:13]: Where a safe, healthy working environment can act as a protective factor for mental health, unhealthy conditions, including stigma, discrimination, exposure to risks like harassment and other poor working conditions, can pose significant risks affecting mental health, overall quality of life, and consequently participation or productivity at work. [0:14:13, 0:14:18]: Whereas it is essential for government's employees, employers, the organizations which represent workers and employees. [0:14:18, 0:14:24]: and other stakeholders r responsible for workers' health and safety to work together to improve mental health at work. [0:14:24, 0:14:29]: Whereas World Mental Health Day is a chance to talk about mental health in general. [0:14:30, 0:14:38]: how we need to look after it and how important it is to talk about things and to get help if you are someone who know is struggling. [0:14:38, 0:14:43]: Stigma and discrimination continue to be a barrier to social inclusion and access to the right care. [0:14:43, 0:15:03]: But we all play our part in increasing awareness about such preventive mental health interventions work. Now therefore I Anthony S. Ford by virtual authority investor in me as a mayor, C of Stockbridge, Georgia. Now on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander Yulana, Barber John Blount, Lakisha Gantt, and Follow Thomas do hereby proclaim October tenth, twenty twenty-four. [0:15:03, 0:15:23]: As World Mental Health Day in the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and we encourage everyone to show your support in making mental health a priority in our community, wear your green ribbon in support. In witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the Great Seal City of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 14th day of October, year of our Lord, 2024, and I signed a proclamation on loan. [0:15:23, 0:15:31]: I'll clarify now. So how are they? Okay, I'm sorry, she's back. [0:15:31, 0:15:40]: Okay, fine. Oh no, fine. Would you read comments you you want to return anything? [0:15:41, 0:15:56]: Good evening. As a member of the stepping up committee here in Henry County, I received this award, knowing that we're working toward making sure everyone has an opportunity for a healthy life, mental health, spiritual health, and a wholesome life. Thank you. [0:15:56, 0:16:04]: Okay. [0:16:05, 0:16:05]: [972.2, 974.1]: Thank you. All right. [0:16:15, 0:16:18]: Okay, absolutely appreciate it. Thank you very much. All right. [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Okay, miss something. [0:16:25, 0:16:26]: In this one though. Mm-hmm. [0:16:27, 0:16:28]: Well yeah. [0:16:31, 0:16:36]: We okay. So what is what is it? Okay, what well what it is is that um [0:16:37, 0:16:57]: Red Ribbon Week and uh has here some school pr anybody from the educational principals here, okay. And uh breast cancer awareness month um is what I have here and I have a name of Rachel Jones and is okay, she's not here to at point. Now, um [0:16:57, 0:17:00]: And I [0:17:00, 0:17:06]: Hardy, I see you, sir. And for I know that come on up for a second. Please come on up, Hardy. [0:17:12, 0:17:32]: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Hardy Abbott. He works for Vijestar. Come come on over here, Mr. Micr. This works for Vijestar, which is in our community. It's on uh Eagles Landing Parkway. And Vijestar is actually a sponsor for uh for our amphitheater, D Bridge. All right, now the other day, just uh it was a Sunday night, just last night, we had a wonderful [0:17:32, 0:17:51]: uh concert and during that concert we actually uh uh gave the city excuse me gave five star a proclamation from the city in reference to um good good goes everywhere what's it called goods everywhere. Good goes everywhere. Right. And so what it amounts to deals with their nonprofit all the [0:17:51, 0:18:11]: And the fact that we have a real great relationship with ViceTar. They've been a lot, there's not only sponsored on Amphitheater, they've been a lot a lot of sponsors of supporting many activities here in the city of Stockbridge. [0:18:11, 0:18:19]: So happens that when I I I issued that to you, we issue a group of issued that to you, and um the proclamation that we read the other night. [0:18:20, 0:18:23]: is not here in front of me right now. Okay? [0:18:23, 0:18:43]: So I've just that's just wanna bring it up. I don't know I don't know but we you you we'll we'll make sure we issue that pack to you again, right? But I but it's not sitting right here. Uh so but I don't want to waste your time and have you sitting and wait, all right? We appreciate that. No problem. But on that note, I tried to give a small little synopsis. But if sir, if you have anything you wanna say, here's a mic for you. Please do. [0:18:43, 0:18:44]: Please do. [0:18:44, 0:19:04]: Thank you so much for having us on today. So Stockbridge was the first location of Vystar. Vistar started in 1952, Jack's Navy Federal, with five members and well, excuse me, with 12 members with only$5. So ViceTar is definitely in the [0:19:04, 0:19:24]: community and we believe that we want to do good so individuals can definitely bank better. We are excited about the partnership that we have with the city of Stockbridge as well as with the bridge. And of course we are here for the community so that we can help your friends and family succeed financially. [0:19:24, 0:19:42]: We are located at 980 Eagles Landing Parkway. So any of the financial needs that you might need some assistance with, we are excited to be able to offer you some advice and some guidance so that you can reach those financial dreams. Overall, just a really quick story. [0:19:43, 0:20:03]: My mom raised me and um my father was there too, but she was really, really, really keen on financial wellness. And of course, I was able to purchase my first home at the age of 23. So if I can do it, anybody can do it. So and I want to offer that same guidance so that everyone [0:20:02, 0:20:20]: I personally believe it's not so much if you can be a homeowner, it's just when. So I just would encourage you to come and visit us. And last but certainly not least, we've been sharing with everybody. Can't tell you who to vote for, but make sure you exercise your civic duty and vote. Thank you. God bless you. [0:20:25, 0:20:31]: Since you are a partner of Stockbridge and we'll have a long-standing relationship without a doubt. [0:20:32, 0:20:33]: Yeah, I got used to. [0:20:37, 0:20:40]: If you don't want to look forward, should put things on. [0:20:47, 0:20:52]: Thank you, Tom. Thank you. Okay, you know what? Here [0:20:53, 0:21:01]: I I need a document, sir. Just in a time. Just in a nick of time. [0:21:14, 0:21:20]: Thank you. All right. We're gonna we're gonna go through the whole thing, right? We we got time. I've got so this is uh [0:21:20, 0:21:25]: So let me let me just read this for you all. And some of the things uh let's go through this process. Good is everywhere. [0:21:25, 0:21:34]: Whereas since the founding of 1952, the Naval Air Station Jacksonville ByStar Credit Union has provided high-quality financial services to the people of Northeast Florida. [0:21:35, 0:21:44]: Whereas ViStar Credit Unit started with just twelve members and was since grown to become the thirteenth largest in the nation, now serving nearly one million members throughout Florida and Georgia. [0:21:44, 0:22:01]: Whereas a critical part of the credit union movement is commonly uh is community engagement. And last year, ViceStar provided more than 6.5 million in donations and grants to local nonprofits. ViceStar is a proud sponsor of Stockbridge Amphitheater, and our members can receive a special discount on select shows. [0:22:01, 0:22:12]: Whereas employee volunteerism and community stewardship is also central to ByStar's culture, and each year the credit union sponsors a multi-day effort across the footprint called Good Is Everywhere. [0:22:13, 0:22:33]: This initiative focused on recognizing the good that exists in the world by spotlighting local organizations that do important work each day and supporting them with volunteer efforts led by employees. Whereas in 2023, the Good Is Everywhere campaign resulted in 128 company-wide service events involving 1,360. [0:22:33, 0:22:52]: Employees, nearly 6,000 volunteer hours logged, and more than$22,000 worth of employee-led nonprofit donations. Whereas ViceTar members and others from the community will be given opportunities for free access during Good Is Everywhere to important cultural institutions that do good for our community every day, such as Stockbridge Amphitheater. [0:22:52, 0:23:12]: And whereas the Stockbridge community joins VISTAR in celebrating good is everywhere in 2024 and recognize the impact of VISTAR and other credit unions to continue to have our residents' financial wellness and region's economic development. Now therefore, I Anthony Sforbivers Authority Invest in Me is the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of city council members Elton Alexander Lonabarbara, [0:23:12, 0:23:16]: Cowbury, Lakese again, and Fonzo Thomas do hereby proclaim [0:23:16, 0:23:36]: Sunday, which was yesterday, October 13th, 2024, Good Is Every Day, every excuse me, Good Is Everywhere Day in the Great City of Stockbridge, Georgia, and encourage all citizens to recognize the important contributions of Vice Star Credit Union and its employees in both our business sector and our community as a whole. A witness thereof, I have hereunto sat my hand in the great CLC. [0:23:36, 0:23:46]: Stockbridge, Georgia, on the thirteenth day of October, year of our Lord, 2024, and I signed a proclamation along with our clerk for Nessa Holiday. There you go, sir. Thank you. [0:23:47, 0:23:56]: All right. So unless you want yeah we're going to want much yourself, that's what that's why I get I got called at it too. Let's just go ahead and just take a picture with this as well. [0:24:05, 0:24:10]: Thank you. Thank you, Kyle. No problem. No problem. Thank you. [0:24:12, 0:24:13]: Okay. [0:24:16, 0:24:17]: Rachel Jones. [0:24:20, 0:24:22]: Any uh school principal sis Barnes or Stockwood Elementary? [0:24:26, 0:24:30]: Uh breast council awareness. Anybody here for breast council awareness? [0:24:34, 0:24:36]: Alrighty. Well [0:24:39, 0:24:43]: I I know we're gonna find out. It's a second. We're gonna wait a bit and see who this is. [0:24:44, 0:24:50]: No, that's not that's that's our employee. Uh huh. That's our employee. [0:24:50, 0:24:54]: All right, so Red Ribbon Week, twenty twenty four. [0:24:56, 0:25:16]: All right, so this deals with uh where substance issues uh affect individuals, families, and communities across Henry County, Center Georgia, and the nation. Whereas an imperative that communities launch visible, unified prevention education to eliminate the demand for drugs. Whereas the National Red Ribbon campaign offers citizens the opportunity to demonstrate their commitment to drug-free. [0:25:16, 0:25:36]: free lifestyles, no use of illegal drugs, no illegal use of legal drugs. And the National Red Ribbon campaign will also will be celebrated in every community in America during Red Ribbon Week, October 23rd to 31st, establish the theme of Life is a movie, film drug-free. [0:25:36, 0:25:56]: And whereas business government parents, law enforcement, media, medical institutions, religious institutions, schools, senior citizens, service organizations, youth will demonstrate their commitment to healthy, drug-free lifestyles by wearing and displaying red ribbons during a week-long campaign. Now, therefore, I Anthony Forbes, but virtual authority invested in me as a mayor of city. [0:25:56, 0:26:16]: Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, Kyle, Berry, Akese Gann, and Afonso Thomas to hereby proclaim the week October 23rd to 31st as Red Ribb in Stockbridge, Georgia, and encourages all stakeholders to participate in drug prevention education activities not only during Red Ribbon Week, Red. [0:26:16, 0:26:17]: Ribbon week. [0:26:18, 0:26:27]: but also throughout the year making a vi visible statement, Bible a visible statement, that's right, that are strongly committed to drug free schools. And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand [0:26:27, 0:26:36]: Ratio stop race, Georgia on the 14th day of October, year of our Lord, 2024, and assigned the proclamation law on a prayer for Ness Holiday. Okay? All right. [0:26:36, 0:26:48]: So I don't know if the council wanna make any comments and reference this at all. Okay, okay. Alright, just I'll I'll figure out. Okay. [0:26:49, 0:26:50]: Good. [0:26:59, 0:27:01]: No question about this. [0:27:05, 0:27:05]: Right. [0:27:11, 0:27:14]: Okay, once again breast casting awareness. Anybody here to receive this proclamation? [0:27:14, 0:27:24]: If anyone who uh related to someone that lost to battle with the rest cancer or survival to give some other support, awareness and education. [0:27:25, 0:27:41]: Rest cancer this month. We actually please them and honor those who lost their lives, men and women in the middle. Those who are survivors or no survivors. Thank you. [0:27:44, 0:28:04]: Come on in, folks. Come on, come on, ladies. Alrighty. Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Whereas the month of October is about more than pink ribbons. While some feel inspired, many people living with breast cancer feel like the month may overlook their experience with the disease. Whereas breast cancer awareness [0:28:04, 0:28:12]: Awareness Month can mean different things to different people. For some, 31 days in the fall of a pink ribbon remembers, reminds, well, reminds. [0:28:13, 0:28:33]: members, excuse me, of the disease and forever change them. Whereas Breast Cancer Awareness Month is an international health campaign held every October. The month aims to promote screening and prevention of the disease, which affects two point three million women worldwide, and is aimed at supporting people diagnosed with breast cancer, educating [0:28:33, 0:28:38]: People about breast cancer risk factors encouraging women to get regular screening. [0:28:38, 0:28:40]: uh starting at the age of forty or earlier. [0:28:40, 0:29:00]: And fundraising for breast cancer research. Whereas October 13th, Mesthetic Breast Cancer Awareness Day, October 17th and 23rd is Met of Men's Breast Cancer Awareness Week. Now, therefore, I Anthony S. Ford, Bivarse Authority, Vest and Mia's Mary City of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of City Council members, uh Elton Alexander Lana, Barber Cowberry, Kisa Gann, Afonso. [0:29:00, 0:29:04]: Thomas to hereby proclaim the month of October as breast cancer awareness month. [0:29:05, 0:29:11]: And we encourage citizens and agencies to join in and promote activities that will increase their awareness to prevent and control breast cancer. [0:29:12, 0:29:19]: And to pay tribute to those who lost their battle with the disease. And witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in Great Seal City, Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:29:19, 0:29:26]: Fourteenth day of October, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-four, and to sign a proclamation along with our holiday. [0:29:29, 0:29:37]: Now I have only two right here. So I mean I can issue two, and if we need to issue more, we can at another later date. And [0:29:39, 0:29:40]: Anybody? [0:29:40, 0:29:44]: I am not a survivor. Anybody here is an actual survivor? [0:29:45, 0:29:47]: Okay, family members that are survivors. [0:29:48, 0:30:05]: There you go. That's one. Okay. All right. Come on come on here, Gordon. And uh since you're accepting that, you have you had the floor. Uh just wanna say it's it was my stepsister that survived um breast cancer a while back, so thank you. All right. [0:30:11, 0:30:27]: Hi there, my name is Andrea Carter. I'm also with ViStar Credit Union. Um, and I lost my grandmother to breast cancer and I had another aunt who is a survivor. And so I appreciate all the work that's been do being done this month, the awareness, boots on the ground, and I will say [0:30:27, 0:30:37]: In addition to voting, make sure you do your self press exams and make sure you go and get your mammograms regularly. So I just applaud everybody here that's in the trenches doing the work. [0:30:39, 0:30:53]: Shift, shift down this way so we can take a picture. Everybody shift this way. Come on down. We have to double up. Power people in the back. Show the folks up front. Right? Come on, come on, folks. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on down. Please. [0:30:55, 0:31:08]: Okay. Come on in, come on in. All right. You good? Sure, sure. Okay. You good? Come on. [0:31:08, 0:31:09]: For canceling. [0:31:14, 0:31:18]: Right and [0:31:28, 0:31:38]: This last proclamation deals with women's small business month. So all you women that are present here that have a business, come on up. If you have a business, come on up. [0:31:39, 0:31:41]: Women business owners. [0:31:48, 0:31:50]: Win women business owners, come on. [0:31:52, 0:31:53]: All right. Come on down. [0:31:54, 0:31:55]: Come on down. [0:31:55, 0:31:57]: That that show called Come On Down. [0:31:58, 0:32:18]: Women's Small Business Month proclamation from the city of Stockbridge. Whereas National Women's Small Business Month is celebrated in October each year to honor the achievements of women entrepreneurs and the businesses they own. It's also time to recognize. [0:32:18, 0:32:32]: The challenges of women-owned businesses face and to highlight resources to help them succeed. Whereas in 1972, there were little over 400,000 women-owned businesses in the United States until 1988. Women needed a male relative or co-signed. [0:32:32, 0:32:34]: If they wanted to apply for a business loan. [0:32:34, 0:32:54]: That same year, the Women's Business Ownership Act increased SBA's access to capital, provide financial assistance to organizations geared toward women-owned small businesses. By 2019, women-owned businesses represented 42% of all U.S. businesses and generated$1.9 trillion worth of revenue. [0:32:54, 0:33:09]: Outstanding. Okay. Today there are over 13 million women-owned businesses counting, and every October Small Business Administration honors the milestone achievements of today's women-owned businesses and the positive impact they are making on jobs and the economy. [0:33:10, 0:33:17]: Whereas throughout the month, organizations, businesses are aspiring aspiring, excuse me, entrepreneurs share their resources and advice they support. [0:33:17, 0:33:23]: o uh women owned businesses. Now therefore I Anthony S forward by virtual authority vested in me as American Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:33:24, 0:33:33]: Now on behalf of city council members El Nala Zander, Alana, Barber, Kyle, Berry, Nikis again, Afonso Thomas, you hereby proclaim the month of October as National Women's Small Business Month. [0:33:33, 0:33:37]: We encourage everyone to support these small businesses in our local community. [0:33:37, 0:33:45]: The witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in great seal city, Stockbridge, Georgia, on the fourteenth day of October, year of our Lord, two thousand twenty-four, and assigned this alone with [0:33:45, 0:33:51]: Uh our clerk for Nessa Holliday. [0:33:55, 0:33:59]: We are several ladies. Okay. Thank you. Okay. [0:34:00, 0:34:05]: Okay. [0:34:06, 0:34:26]: All right. All right. Uh so this so here before we take a photograph though, ladies, you have the floor. Who else to speak? Anybody? Any any of you ladies, go ahead. Well, I want to thank the great city of Stockbridge. Um, they have been phenomenal to me. Every time they need me, I'm here with myself and [0:34:25, 0:34:33]: My business. I wanna let you know November sixth is eighteen years in the downtown area of City of Stockville. [0:34:38, 0:34:39]: Mm. [0:34:41, 0:35:01]: Good evening everyone. Latanya Brown, I just want to say thank you. I was coming to support someone. Um but I will say that um I own a nonprofit here in Henry, uh LB Legacy Network Incorporated, and we um give out lots of scholarships uh to the youth here in Henry County and I'm proud [0:35:01, 0:35:21]: proud to say that um we also partner quite a bit with some of the local businesses and Angie's being one of them. So it's an it's an honor to be here on behalf of my business as a woman business owner, but also to be supporting the city of Stockbridge and the citizens therein. So thank you. [0:35:21, 0:35:21]: So much. [0:35:25, 0:35:27]: [2128.1, 2148.1]: Good evening, everyone. My name is Diane Miller. I am the curator and owner of the historic Greenfront Cafe located here in our lovely city of Stockbridge. I would like to thank the City of Stockbridge for creating an environment that allows our businesses to grow and to thrive. I'd also like to commend all of my sisters. [0:35:48, 0:36:04]: sisters that are here that have started businesses, that are running businesses, that are moms, sisters, aunties, and doing all the rest of the things that we do while we're running the businesses. Again, thank you everyone and uh Greenfront Cafe, the best kept secret in Stockbridge. [0:36:08, 0:36:18]: I guess I had to say something. Um, thank you to the C D for the support. Again, thank you for my family and G's Cafe, because without them nothing would have been possible. [0:36:18, 0:36:21]: Thank you, Ms. Doctor Brown, for your support. [0:36:21, 0:36:22]: And [0:36:23, 0:36:24]: I'm so grateful. [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: Thank you. [0:36:32, 0:36:40]: I feel the pressure. I'm Sharon Ohamba, SFO designs. I am a seamstress and an artisan. [0:36:45, 0:37:05]: Real quick, um, I wanna thank all these ladies. I know the hard work it takes. As an owner of businesses throughout, from having my own law firm to the ice cream shop that I have welcome home um creamer and coffee that's won um numerous amounts of awards. It takes a community and each and every one of these business owners. [0:37:05, 0:37:25]: Have contributed to Stockbridge already and it is growing. And I commend them because they're daughters, right? And they're sons, but mainly daughters get to see that we too make a difference. And we too, and it's hard. It can it it's extremely hard. [0:37:25, 0:37:34]: um work as a business owner. So I want to thank each and every one of you for the efforts and the work that you have done. And so let's celebrate being women. [0:37:37, 0:37:47]: Come on now so we check you come down so we took a photo back. Watch a step. Come on ladies. Watch a step, watch a step like that. Come on down. [0:37:48, 0:37:54]: Maybe that's the [0:37:54, 0:37:57]: They're shanging it first. [0:38:03, 0:38:06]: Okay. [0:38:25, 0:38:36]: Thank you. That is uh That is it for the proclamations. We'll get started with our meeting here shortly. And [0:38:50, 0:38:54]: It does. [0:39:48, 0:39:51]: Council, I want you to know it's it's uh after six o'clock. [0:39:51, 0:39:53]: Okay. Well. [0:39:55, 0:39:58]: Council, I want you to know it's after six o'clock. We need to get started with our meeting, please. [0:40:15, 0:40:19]: Yeah, yeah, just talk about that. [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: Yeah. [0:42:28, 0:42:30]: All right. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: All right, council and please come to Dias. Let's get started with our meeting, please. [0:42:40, 0:42:41]: Okay. [0:42:44, 0:42:45]: Gentlemen. [0:42:51, 0:42:55]: All right. [0:42:56, 0:43:04]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, like to call our um Council City Council meeting Monday, October 14th, uh to order. It is six oh five. [0:43:05, 0:43:10]: And on that note, if you please stand, uh invocation, Mr. Hardy Abbott from Vice Star Credit Union, please. [0:43:11, 0:43:11]: Uh uh. [0:43:15, 0:43:17]: You've come to the mic, sir. Uh [0:43:18, 0:43:22]: It should be hopefully the mic is it should be on. Okay, go ahead, sir, please. Thank you. [0:43:22, 0:43:42]: Let us pray. All wise and eternal God, we thank you for another opportunity to be able to say thank you. We thank you for this opportunity for leaders to be able to s assemble, to be able to make decisions that will drive our community in a positive direction. We pray, O God, that you would be in the midst, O God. [0:43:42, 0:44:02]: We pray that you would continue to give us God ideas that will continue to give us good strategy. We pray that you would give us good influence so that we might make wise decisions that will impact our community as well as our nation. We pray for individuals individually as well as collectively. And we thank you in advance for victory. [0:44:02, 0:44:22]: Vivic victory privately as well as victory publicly. We pray for the hearts and we pray for this city, oh God, that you will continue to allow us to operate in favor. We thank you, oh God, that our faith is producing manifested, tangible realities in our present moment. We give you glory and we give you honor and we say thank you. [0:44:22, 0:44:33]: Thank you for what you have done. Thank you for what you are doing. And thank you for what you will do. And it's in the name of Jesus that we pray and ask it all. Amen. Amen. [0:44:34, 0:44:46]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation, one of God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:44:47, 0:44:50]: Roll call, Madam Kirk, please. [0:44:52, 0:44:53]: Good evening. [0:44:54, 0:44:55]: Present. [0:44:57, 0:44:57]: Present. [0:44:59, 0:45:01]: Present. [0:45:03, 0:45:11]: Council Member Barber is not an attendant. Councilmember Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a call. [0:45:11, 0:45:20]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Um well first thing I'd like to mention in the in the agenda here, we have public hearing deferred items for announcement. [0:45:20, 0:45:40]: So what we have here, the following items have been deferred to the November 12th, 2024 meeting. Text amendment case number uh TX-2024-05, which deals with the citywide. Special use permit case SP-2024-01. It's located in Council District 3. Special use permit case. [0:45:40, 0:45:55]: Case SP-2024-02 located in Council District 4 and special use permit once again SP two zero two four-zero three also located in special district four. On that note, Council, I need an adoption two uh of the agenda, please. [0:45:57, 0:46:17]: So move. Is there a second for Mr. Alexander? Is there a second? Second, Mr. Barrett. All in favor, please indicate. She now seemed four four people. All right. Fantastic. Before you have the adoption of the minutes, approval to August 12th, um, 2024 council meeting minutes. Our retreat uh budget retreat many minutes from August 21st, 22nd, and 24th of 2024. [0:46:17, 0:46:17]: Yeah. [0:46:17, 0:46:32]: The uh August twenty seventh, twenty twenty four council work session minutes as well as September ninth council work me uh council meeting minutes and also September twenty fourth the council um and minutes uh for the September twenty fourth as well. All in favor of those minutes, please indicate. [0:46:34, 0:46:40]: Okay, m of co oh I'm sorry, I need a motion. Excuse me. Excuse me. I need a motion. So move. So move. All right, second. [0:46:40, 0:46:44]: Mr. Bart oh M Ms. Gas second from Alexander. All favor, please indicate. [0:46:45, 0:47:05]: Excuse me. All right, that fantastic. Ladies and gentlemen, what we had before the meeting, we had an actual ceremonial review, had several different proclamations that were read. Uh fire prevention month, uh we've uh issued that to our fire marshal, Demetrius Wells, Breast Cancer Awareness Uh Month. Um several recipients and uh received that. [0:47:05, 0:47:25]: Uh Red Ribbon Week, uh we issued that proclamation. Domestic Violence Week. We had uh representative for Haven House received that. Mental Health Awareness Month, uh I received that. Okay, I I need that as well, right? Women's Small Business Month, we have several uh small business owners uh that were here to receive that as well. Vice [0:47:24, 0:47:42]: Star uh is good every every day. Uh uh Hardy um uh uh Abbott uh received that for ViceTarr of the Credit Union, which also gave our invocation earlier today. And we had a Hispanic Heritage Month uh uh proclamation issued to Angie of Angie's Cafe. [0:47:43, 0:47:44]: Okay. [0:47:46, 0:47:48]: Any uh Madam Clerk, any public comments at all? [0:47:50, 0:48:10]: Okay. So we'll now go on to the consent agenda. Council consideration appoint Bishop LeRay uh Tillman to fill an unexpired term of the clergy representative position for the Citizens Police Advisory Council. If needed, that uh presented by Mr. Uh Chief Trammer if we needed to have that discussion. And then also on the consent agenda was exercised our first option. [0:48:10, 0:48:30]: Option renewal to contract RFQ number two zero two three-0012. Civic wayfinding a signature project with the lease companies incorporated. Once again, if you need a conversation about that's Mr. Fred Gardner. Is there a motion to accept this? He's consent agenda. Okay, from Mr. Alzheimer's. Is there a second? Okay, Mr. [0:48:30, 0:48:50]: Uh, Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision on that. Thank you very much. New business. Uh council consideration adopt a restated uh GMEBS retirement plan adoption agreement and general addendum with planned amendments presented by Ms. Wheeler and Michelle Warner, please. Ladies. [0:48:58, 0:48:58]: Right. Uh-huh. [0:49:00, 0:49:06]: Good evening, Mayor and Miss Warner is not here. She's with uh GMA, but [0:49:06, 0:49:10]: What uh I have before you is the um [0:49:10, 0:49:21]: Background information is the pension committee met. We had two meetings with GMA, one that we presented them with some amendments that we would like to make to the current uh retirement plan. [0:49:22, 0:49:23]: With a pension plan. [0:49:23, 0:49:25]: And um [0:49:25, 0:49:27]: They came back with [0:49:27, 0:49:34]: um information that we'd like to present to you uh for approval. Um [0:49:34, 0:49:36]: One of them is that the uh [0:49:37, 0:49:43]: Georgia Municipal Employee Benefit uh Plan has uh received a favorable determination letter. [0:49:43, 0:49:46]: From the IRS for the defined benefit retirement plan. [0:49:47, 0:49:51]: Each employer using the plan is required to adopt a restated adoption. [0:49:52, 0:49:55]: Agreement and general addendum as part of the restatement process. [0:49:56, 0:49:59]: Documents include adoption agreement, general addendum. [0:50:00, 0:50:00]: The restated. [0:50:01, 0:50:02]: Uh G M E [0:50:02, 0:50:07]: EBS basic plan documents and the summary of amendments in an opinion letter. [0:50:07, 0:50:12]: The pension committee met with GMA director as recommended and the following amendments. [0:50:13, 0:50:21]: were presented. One part uh one to increase the part-time number of hours from twenty hours to thirty hours. Um [0:50:23, 0:50:31]: Part-time hours to 30 hours. The other one was portable service from other Georgia municipal municipalities. [0:50:31, 0:50:46]: Towards the twenty years uh of service can be allowable. And what that meant is that police officers need to be in service with Stockbridge in order to meet this requirement of fifty-five years, fifty-five years of age and twenty years of service. [0:50:47, 0:50:50]: And if they have any service with another municipality. [0:50:50, 0:50:55]: that service is portable. So for instance, if they spent ten years with the [0:50:55, 0:50:58]: the say the city of Forest Park. [0:50:58, 0:51:02]: And which means that years of service would come over to [0:51:02, 0:51:10]: This uh with their retirement, and then all they would have to do is ten years with the city of Stockbridge as long as they reach fifty-five and they can retire. [0:51:12, 0:51:24]: And the um and that's basically it for the um for the plan um that we met with. So we're asking you all to um approve it. [0:51:25, 0:51:28]: Thank you, appreciate it. Council, any questions that you have for Miss Wheeler? [0:51:29, 0:51:30]: Anybody? [0:51:31, 0:51:34]: All right, there's no questions. I need a motion to accept this uh proposal. [0:51:36, 0:51:38]: Some of the things. [0:51:38, 0:51:40]: From Miss Kant to Miss Alzheimer's arm for you, please indicate. [0:51:41, 0:51:42]: Fantastic. Thank you. [0:51:43, 0:51:44]: Thank you, Ms. Willard. Thank you. [0:51:46, 0:52:05]: Council consideration to approve the proposed budget amendment as outlined within an attached ordinance to purchase the National Integrated Ballistic Information Network System, N I B I N, an amount of two hundred and seventy-seven thousand nine hundred and eighteen dollars. This is a sole source purchase from Ferzenic Fr Frzentic. [0:52:06, 0:52:15]: Uh technology, uh funding source general fund presented by uh Deputy Chief Goffrey here. Go ahead, sir, please. [0:52:15, 0:52:29]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Again, as you mentioned, Mayor, uh this is a budget amendment or request as well as a purchase request for a new NIBAN system through forensic technology in the amount of two hundred and seventy-seven thousand nine hundred and eighteen dollars. [0:52:30, 0:52:35]: This was one of the budgetary items that was listed on the um [0:52:37, 0:52:56]: Office of Planning and Budget Safety Community Violence Reduction Grant that was approved by Council back in August of twenty twenty-three. This is a sole source purchase. This will come from general funds temporarily. Once the purchase is made, we will submit and do a drawdown and reimburse the city for the full amount. [0:52:57, 0:53:02]: Uh thank you for that. Council, any questions for assistant chief? Go ahead, uh Mr. Thomas. [0:53:03, 0:53:05]: Uh assistant chief. Yes, sir. [0:53:05, 0:53:06]: That sounds pretty good. [0:53:07, 0:53:08]: Yes, sir it does. [0:53:08, 0:53:09]: Just wanna [0:53:10, 0:53:14]: I wanna thank you for the presentation and I was reading over this uh [0:53:15, 0:53:20]: over the weekend and I had a c concern and a question. I know this is um [0:53:20, 0:53:23]: You indicate it's coming from the general fund. [0:53:24, 0:53:30]: Um and it's going to be reimbursed to the city. [0:53:31, 0:53:33]: Uh but my question though is [0:53:34, 0:53:39]: Uh, since this is coming from the general fund, I was trying to identify [0:53:40, 0:53:43]: uh the line item exactly where the funds were actually coming from, so [0:53:44, 0:53:54]: if misses uh Gaines could come forward, maybe she can share some light with me'cause I was trying to get a better understanding. Uh I I think it's always good that [0:53:54, 0:54:01]: Uh the Stockbridge Police Department is uh building itself up to be able to do the work here in the city. [0:54:01, 0:54:08]: But I'm always concerned about the the finances and and actually where we're actually pulling it from and [0:54:08, 0:54:20]: I would have liked to have known uh in advance exactly where it was coming from, but well even that with that being said, maybe uh Mrs. Gain can can shed some light on that for evening, Mayor and Council. How are you? All right, evening. [0:54:20, 0:54:38]: So the two hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars in question would basically just come from the general fund. Um we'll do a budget adjustment if approved. And once the purchase had been made and we have an invoice, we'll immediately do what Mr. Godfrey said, which is a drawdown, and those funds will be immediately reimbursed to us. [0:54:39, 0:54:42]: Well, I I do understand that part'cause it was mentioned but [0:54:43, 0:54:45]: Um the line item. [0:54:46, 0:54:49]: Out of the general fund, can you identify the line item? [0:54:49, 0:54:50]: Yes, sir. You want me to give it to you now? [0:54:51, 0:54:51]: Yes, please. [0:54:52, 0:54:53]: One zero zero. [0:54:53, 0:54:54]: One zero [0:54:55, 0:55:00]: Go ahead. Zero zero uh five zero zero zero zero zero zero. [0:55:00, 0:55:01]: Okay. [0:55:02, 0:55:03]: And then it will be three zero. [0:55:04, 0:55:06]: Three zero. One zero zero. [0:55:06, 0:55:17]: One zero zero. So that's one zero zero zero zero zero three zero one zero zero. That's the line item. An additional zero, I'm sorry. [0:55:17, 0:55:21]: At the end. And that's the line item. Yes, sir. Thank you so much. [0:55:22, 0:55:29]: Any other quest is that is that all, sir? Yes. Okay, anything else from the council? Okay, no question any motion to accept this, please? [0:55:29, 0:55:31]: Okay for Ms. Alzheimer's a second. [0:55:32, 0:55:35]: Okay, o okay, Mr. Berry, all in favor, please in the K. [0:55:36, 0:55:39]: Thank you very much, gentlemen, ladies. Okay. [0:55:41, 0:55:52]: Council consideration adopt the ordinance to approve the job description organizational chart and pay and classification for the newly created position tax property tax specialist. Miss Gaines and Miss Wheeler, please. [0:55:55, 0:56:15]: Hi, Council. We've submitted a job description for the property tax specialists. And just to detail it, the uh the position will work closely with Mr. Cook over at Henry County. And we'll once we receive all the applications, they'll be reviewed. We'll compose the documentation that they set forth for us. [0:56:14, 0:56:20]: us and relay that information over to Cook County. I'm sorry, Henry County. [0:56:22, 0:56:28]: And they'll do other duties as assigned by finance as well. Year in close, month in clothes, but [0:56:28, 0:56:29]: Mm. [0:56:29, 0:56:35]: The homestead exemptions and collection of the property taxes will be the main ps responsibilities of this position. [0:56:37, 0:56:41]: All right, council, any any questions? Thoughts? Go ahead, Ms. Gantt. [0:56:41, 0:56:46]: So if we have our own properties tax specialists, why are we paying [0:56:47, 0:56:48]: The [0:56:49, 0:56:50]: Uh [0:56:50, 0:56:52]: Henry County Tax Commissioner. [0:56:53, 0:56:58]: a fee. Like what are we doing with our own? Uh aren't they collecting the taxes and [0:56:59, 0:57:02]: And doing all of those things that you're describing here in the job description? [0:57:04, 0:57:09]: They do not handle our homestead at all. They just collect the taxes and then [0:57:10, 0:57:17]: distribute them to us, but it's our responsibility to approve andor deny homestead exemptions. It's also our responsibility to keep [0:57:18, 0:57:21]: A tally of delinquent taxes and unpaid taxes. [0:57:24, 0:57:44]: You wanna expound on that? It's you're saying it's our responsibility. Tell me wha what is Michael Harris's responsibility? So under our um forty nine agreement, they collect our taxes as part of that agreement. Um but there is a state law that requires that if you do homestead exemption, this is what I was talking about. [0:57:44, 0:57:47]: We have to be responsible for the exemption side that was not covered. [0:57:48, 0:57:59]: And there's he told me that there's a specific state law that guides that. So for everybody to do homestead exemp that those communities to do homestead exemption, they required for actually handling that side of the house, not not Henry County. [0:58:01, 0:58:10]: And that's the reason why. This was we discussed this at the retreat, and I remember telling y'all that this was coming because of that requirement that that Michael Harris told us about. [0:58:10, 0:58:16]: And that we needed to get ahead of it obviously to make sure that we have somebody in place to be able to do the homestead exemption side of the house. [0:58:16, 0:58:17]: They were not [0:58:17, 0:58:19]: contracted to do that. [0:58:26, 0:58:27]: But they get a V. [0:58:28, 0:58:40]: Bigger percentage. Um I I I uh we we talked about that and uh he was specific and asked to read that's the only reason why this is before you because we had that conversation with with um Mr. Harris. [0:58:42, 0:58:42]: Okay. [0:58:44, 0:59:04]: Any other questions from the council? Yes. Go ahead, Mr. Bear. So additionally, um, we talked about this position is based upon the election as well, whether or not that is ratified. Yes, sir. And so in the event that it is not, what if we approve this position tonight, what is the conclusion of [0:59:04, 0:59:12]: What we ratify here on council for this position in the event the citizens don't approve the homestead. How would we handle that? [0:59:13, 0:59:33]: We're still responsible for tracking our delinquencies and the position would also help with other financial responsibilities, open records requests, um year-in closing, just finishing out things that are needed for finance. So in the event of the election, we will rename it something else. We would have to come back and rename the position. [0:59:33, 0:59:40]: That's what I wanted to get. Yeah. You know, not more than fifty percent of the job duties are going to be collecting [0:59:40, 0:59:57]: or doing the homestead exemption, which would be a large part of the physi position's job. So we'll have to come back to you all, reclass the position to something else and for those new duties or remove the majority of the duties and add new duties to the position. [0:59:57, 1:00:04]: Right, because we also have some other carryover. Okay. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you for clarifying it for me. [1:00:04, 1:00:05]: Any other questions from the council? [1:00:07, 1:00:10]: All right, then I just need a motion to accept this uh new job description. [1:00:11, 1:00:15]: Is there a second? Mr. Burr from Malazander. Mr. Berry, are all fair, please in the K. [1:00:17, 1:00:22]: Oppose? You oppose okay, three three one, it passes. Miss Gann opposes. Okay, thank you, ladies. [1:00:24, 1:00:26]: What's next, ladies and gentlemen, is a public hearing. [1:00:26, 1:00:28]: Let me read the rules for public hearing. [1:00:30, 1:00:40]: Okay, please mute all cell phones and electronic devices. Anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. [1:00:41, 1:01:01]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by an applicant or representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with or any relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following an applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have the opportunity to do so. [1:01:01, 1:01:13]: East side will be allotted ten minutes total. 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The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the [1:02:01, 1:02:18]: If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. The presiding officer will call for the motion and a second to the motion and have any unnecessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [1:02:21, 1:02:35]: So now we're in a public hearing, it's now open. Number nine, rezoning case RZ2024-07 for the Patrick Henry Parkway Master Plan located in Council District 5. [1:02:35, 1:02:55]: Consideration of the Patrick Henry Parkway master plan, which is prepared by the TSW Consulting Firm, it proposed a mixture of retail, commercial, residential, and entertainment uses for areas along the southern end of Patrick Henry Parkway, with some properties lying within the city's stopper city limits, and others lying within uh inaccorporated Henry County. [1:02:55, 1:02:58]: And this evening is be presented by Mr. Gardner, please. [1:03:00, 1:03:02]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening, sir. [1:03:10, 1:03:11]: So [1:03:12, 1:03:18]: Tonight I'm gonna kinda give you guys a overview of how we got here and then I'm gonna let staff handle the technical side of it. But [1:03:18, 1:03:27]: This was an initiative that started and uh out of the city manager's office to look at how do we master plan this corridor that's within the city limits. [1:03:27, 1:03:33]: Um specifically not waiting until we have requests for development to come in, but guide. [1:03:33, 1:03:53]: that development. And this was an effort that spend going on going for over a year, working with the property owners and the property owners repres represent representatives within that area to sit down with our land planning firm and look at how do we make this uh corridor one of the most unique corridors [1:03:53, 1:04:13]: Not only in the city of Stockbridge and Henry County, but for the first time to have a vertical mixed use project on the south side of Atlanta. And those property owners were on board and their representatives were engaged in the process and be able to come up with a master plan for the Patriot. [1:04:13, 1:04:20]: Patrick Henry Corridor and the owners of the properties in conjunction with another developer who [1:04:21, 1:04:26]: Um has been integral in changing the landscape in the Jodica Road Corridor, Mr. Jeff Grant. [1:04:26, 1:04:29]: Um assisted with facilitating [1:04:29, 1:04:31]: Um the ownership on the corridor. [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: And um [1:04:34, 1:04:39]: We came up with this master plan and so part of that agreement was we would rezone the property. Um [1:04:41, 1:04:44]: to guide the development within this area. And so you have a [1:04:45, 1:05:05]: on your screen. You should have a the map of that corridor. Uh I will say that the apartment complex to the north uh of we've discussed in exe uh in executive session that portion of the corridor is going to change. Um so we will not be probably on those [1:05:05, 1:05:12]: Those apartments. Um, those apartments will go away, but this majority of the property will be developed as as designed. [1:05:12, 1:05:32]: Um spoke with the representative of the land ownership below Holloway and they'll be submitting an annexation because that's the part that we don't control. It's still in the county. But uh Mr. Patel has agreed and will fill in the application and submit it to our planning department to annex that portion so we will have that whole corridor uh in the city, except for the piece where the [1:05:32, 1:05:52]: The senior homes is being built right now. It's just still in the county. That's the only portion that's left in unincorporated Henry County. And so with that, I'm gonna let the staff come in if you guys want to go through anything. But mostly what you have is a mix of residential, multifamily, single-family. [1:05:52, 1:06:12]: family attach, um, residential above, uh retail, retail, uh, and there's a few office spaces as part of the development. Um there is an LOI for a specific use in that area where the apartments is going that was signed um by the landowner and the entity. [1:06:12, 1:06:22]: Um and there's another verbal L O I for a luxury car dealer to come in on a portion of s a portion of this property as well. Um [1:06:22, 1:06:27]: So with that, I think the staff we presented this to the planning commission about a month and a half ago. [1:06:27, 1:06:38]: Uh it came back before the planning commission. They voted to approve it and s staff recommends approval of this. [1:06:38, 1:06:44]: I'm gonna give that quick overview and I didn't write the staff report, so I'm gonna let the staff kinda go through the staff report with you. [1:06:52, 1:06:52]: Okay. [1:07:06, 1:07:10]: Well, we'll entertain any questions you guys may have. I mean I think council is aware that this has been coming. [1:07:11, 1:07:17]: Yes. Well we'll imagine I'll uh I'll let Mr. Azan since it's his district, I imagine he has a few questions. Que answer. [1:07:18, 1:07:38]: Well, first of all, Mr. Gardner had engaged me during the process and we had discussed um the specifics behind this and the desire to attract the type of businesses that the community had desired so they don't have to leave their community to work, eat. [1:07:37, 1:07:57]: shop and to work. And this development provides the first real opportunity for that to happen. And in partnership with the entities and with the letter of intent, these are some businesses that people would, if they understood who they were, would really be very excited and understanding. [1:07:57, 1:08:17]: Understand some of the businesses that they have desired now have an eye on Henry County because of the excellent work the staff has done in coordinating this. This determines so that when somebody comes here and says to us that we uh this is what we want. The city manager was proactive in going to them and saying, [1:08:17, 1:08:37]: This is what we want up front in coordination with myself and the businesses, and you all as well have been tapped into what has been going on here. And this project offers us an opportunity to do some other things in terms of infrastructure as far as widening Patrick Henry Parkway in the future, uh having a [1:08:37, 1:08:57]: a 10 foot multi-use path to put together a walkable and golf cart area uh in there so that one day that uh produ that residents will be able to leave and enjoy and connect the uh Eagles Landing Parkway area to uh the Jodica area via uh golf cart. [1:08:57, 1:09:17]: be a scooter or uh alternative transportation as well as connecting to downtown uh in the overall scheme of things. But this is one of the highest quality development standards in all of Georgia. Is that correct, Mr. Gardner? [1:09:17, 1:09:37]: gonna set some high. I said one of the one of them, yes sir. It'll be one of the right. Yes sir. We're gonna say that'll be one of the that's what I'm saying. Obviously uh it depends on what the end users are, but it'll be let's let me rephrase that. It will be one of the highest standards in Georgia. That is correct. Absolutely. So that was our goal to be [1:09:37, 1:09:57]: uh in the top tier uh with this development so it would uh reflect what the community had desired because we had a number of years ago we had a number of charretes that we had people come to to say what type of buildings that they want to uh have in the community and all of those are reflected uh in this particular development. [1:09:57, 1:10:12]: along Patrick Henry Parkway. And again, the b the grand plan offers us an opportunity to do what is needed to be done, which is expanding and widening Patrick Henry Parkway along this corridor in coordination with mister Berry's district. [1:10:12, 1:10:32]: When Rock Cory Road is widening, this will offer great transportation between those two areas where you'll be able to go uh from Jodico Road all the way to North Henry Boulevard on the improved infrastructure and traffic. And then on the other side of 75, you know where they're going with the Hudson Bridge Road to Jonesburg. [1:10:32, 1:10:52]: Road connector. So we'll have one of the best infrastructure and transportation corridors, two of them, right here in this area, and that will allow us to be able to compete, to keep our citizens and to bring good jobs to this area. [1:10:52, 1:10:56]: area. Right, sir. Yes, sir. And and I'll expand on that. Um [1:10:57, 1:11:01]: Recently I was contacted by the development devi approved I think over a year ago just north of this. [1:11:02, 1:11:07]: Uh and they want to be a part of this synergy uh in terms of the Patrick Henry corridor and [1:11:07, 1:11:25]: So as they're going they're gonna be coming for their land planning process to see how they could connect to what we're proposing here, not only through the ten foot wide path, but into development, mm, how we could connect so that those folks don't have to get on Patrick Henry to get down to enjoy the entertainment and the [1:11:25, 1:11:45]: lifestyle choice that that we're gonna develop here. I will also say that I'm looking forward to moving on the other side and meeting with those landowners and doing the same thing there so that we can s seriously plan out these areas, being proactive rather than reactive to zoning requests. We're proactive in terms of what we want to see. And so when those entities come, [1:11:46, 1:11:59]: Those owners go out and they meet with developers. They already know what's being what's planned for the area. And so there isn't a lot of back and forth between us and them because we've gone forward with the landowners and land planned ahead of time. [1:11:59, 1:12:00]: Outstanding. [1:12:01, 1:12:20]: Ms. Gann, I think you have something on you wanted all your mind. You good? All right, gentlemen down here. Anybody? You all good? All right. Well I uh Ms. Alexander, you put a motion in in place? Yes, sir. The staff has recommended approval of this measure for the Patrick Henry Parkway master plan, and I make a motion to approve. [1:12:20, 1:12:31]: I second. Okay. I think you gotta open it to the public. It is a is a rezoning search. Okay, yeah, yeah. You know what? Thank thank you. Normally no I'm glad you caught it. Normally the clerk's got it. Clerk you didn't [1:12:31, 1:12:33]: Yeah, yeah. [1:12:34, 1:12:44]: I d Thank you. I'm tell I'm sorry, I'm jumping the gun. Thank you. All right. All right. It is a public hearing. [1:12:44, 1:12:51]: All right, so uh comments. Anybody that has comments four. Uh my far uh my far left side, anybody have comments four? [1:12:52, 1:12:54]: In the middle. Anybody has comments four in the middle? [1:12:54, 1:13:08]: Anybody have comments for and on my far right? Anybody have comment have comments against this particular development in my far left? Against in the middle. Anybody in the far right? Against comments against this project. Okay. That part of this uh [1:13:08, 1:13:14]: Public hearing is closed. Okay, now on that note, now Mr Alexander, please. [1:13:14, 1:13:19]: I make a recommendation to approve the Patrick Henry Parkway master plan recommended by staff. [1:13:20, 1:13:24]: I second. Ms. Can't second that all favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. There we go. [1:13:25, 1:13:45]: Thank you, City Manager, for that. Thank you. All right. City of Stockbridge 2025-2029 short-term work program capital improvement element. STWP slash C I E. The Community Development Department is requesting that the City Council approve. [1:13:45, 1:14:05]: The transmittal of the 2025-29 2029 short-term work program capital improvement element STWP slash CIE to the Department of Community Affairs and Atlanta Regional Commission for the review and recommendations. Mr. Anderson, please. All right. Good afternoon, Mayor and Cameron. [1:14:04, 1:14:05]: Also uh [1:14:08, 1:14:28]: Uh what staff is presenting tonight is the um twenty twenty-five to twenty twenty nine capital improvement short term work program element asking for mis permission for the mayor to be able to transmit um the package to the ARC for review. So um son of [1:14:30, 1:14:34]: Here's the um on the screen is a copy of the letter. [1:14:34, 1:14:40]: That the mayor will will be actually signing and um that it goes along with the package that we will be transmitting. [1:14:40, 1:15:00]: Mr. Ryan, I just got I did sign this when I came in today. I signed it and I gave the copy to Ms. Rawl. So she has a signed copy for you. Okay counsel here signed copy for you. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right, so this is a copy of that letter, uh, so everyone can see. Uh here's the the um the copy of the uh resolution. [1:15:03, 1:15:19]: uh uh authorizing transmission and um last this is the copy of the um short term work program itself uh list of new projects projects that are underway and uh completed projects [1:15:20, 1:15:25]: So here's the uh list of projects under the category uh community facilities. [1:15:31, 1:15:40]: So there's a total of 31 projects with a grand total of$58,470,765. [1:15:43, 1:15:53]: Here is a list of uh projects under the category of economic development. For a total of 220,000, there are four projects. [1:15:55, 1:16:01]: And land use uh this is follows on the the community development department. Um [1:16:02, 1:16:17]: We have uh six projects for a total of uh one million dollars. Transportation, which is under the auspices of the Public Works Department. Uh they have four major projects totaling fifteen million five hundred thousand dollars. [1:16:24, 1:16:27]: And here's the list of completed projects over the years. [1:16:29, 1:16:39]: And uh the total of our completed projects total forty six million nine hundred and fifty three thousand eight hundred and eleven dollars. And that's the presentation. [1:16:39, 1:16:40]: All right. Thank you. [1:16:41, 1:16:43]: Council, any questions for Mr. Anderson at all? [1:16:45, 1:17:05]: Go ahead, sir. So I just will always like to when you go over this so people understand. A lot of times folks will say, well, where did this come from, or where did that come from? This is the plan, right? Yes. When we go about when the amphitheater came about, uh, when the cultural arts center is going to come about, uh, when the uh national [1:17:05, 1:17:25]: Now it's the multi-generational recreation center. Instead of saying youth center, I think that sounds better. In terms of where we're going, all of that is in our work plan. And we have to make sure that those items are included in this plan, correct? Yes, correct. So we have uh again on the spLOS, voters will have the opportunity. [1:17:25, 1:17:45]: Opportunity to vote on the multi-generational recreation center. There's$10 million that's on that SPLOST. If voters vote yes, we will have$10 million to build the recreation center that we had designed by TSW and such projects as that. We just reviewed the master. [1:17:45, 1:18:05]: parks plan and we saw some amazing things, especially over in Memorial Park, uh in Clark Park, Gardner Park, and then we have a new park coming in Mr. Gar Mr. Berry's district over there on 12 acres that we'll have money to pass if vote is so determined. We can't tell you how to vote here. [1:18:05, 1:18:25]: We just advise you what the case may be. But all of those are included in this work plan that we're working up to make sure that we uh have listed all of these projects because Park Master Parks plan includes the projects that I've already mentioned here. Yes. So what we're doing is we're systematically [1:18:25, 1:18:45]: Putting the steps together and explaining to the region what we're going to do. And then because anything that we expect to do needs to be in this plan if we're gonna apply for a grant or some type of assistance that's required, right? Yes, sir. That's exactly what's required. So anybody looking to see what's coming next or what [1:18:44, 1:19:04]: What we're going to do, they need to look no farther than this plan right here to understand if we want any financial commitments for other entities or grants that it must be listed in this plan, just like the amphitheater was listed in this plan before it was completed, and several other projects, the East Atlanta Road Project was included, several others that we've included. [1:19:04, 1:19:10]: completed. So thank you. All right. Any other questions for from counsel for Mr. Ryan? [1:19:11, 1:19:31]: Everybody's good. Okay. This is a public hearing. All right. So any comments uh against this particular plan coming from the far my far left? Any comments against the plan coming from my far and from the middle? Any comments against this particular plan? Name the comments from my far right. Any comments for this particular plan? [1:19:31, 1:19:33]: plan in my far left. [1:19:34, 1:19:36]: And forward four this in the middle. [1:19:36, 1:19:40]: All right, comments positive comments in the far right. [1:19:40, 1:19:45]: Okay, ma'am, please come forward. This is uh positive comments for name and address please. [1:19:46, 1:20:06]: Um good evening, uh, Council and Mayor. Uh my name is Jocelyn Williams, 190 Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. Uh, is it any way we can get a copy? It just looks good. I couldn't I'm older, I just couldn't see it. That's that's the only coming. It looks good. I just didn't know if if it's something we could see or if it's something that we can't. [1:20:06, 1:20:14]: But I I'm positive and wanted to just give my comments for it. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Appreciate it. Um, you coming to answer that qu [1:20:14, 1:20:34]: Question there, I believe it's would it be on our website? Yes, we can provide a copy, but usually have to go through the clerk's office, do an open records request. Oh, okay. Yeah, most requests have to be official. Okay, I got you. All right. So I think that's why they're talking right now. So you give it the details for that. Okay. Open records request, and obviously that's I guess that's what you all discussed. Okay. All right. If for no other comments from [1:20:34, 1:20:44]: from the uh from the community then aspect. I'll close that portion. Oh he don't have to that close that portion. And so now I need a emotion uh council to approve this. [1:20:45, 1:20:46]: Well here might [1:20:47, 1:20:58]: So moved. Oh, is there a second? Second. Okay, from Ms. Ganttu, Mr. Alzheimer's all favor, please indicate. Okay, so all good. Every is unanimously seized. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. All right. Okay, see here. [1:21:02, 1:21:22]: Comprehensive Plan Amendment K CP two zero two four-one, Council District five. Consideration of comprehensive plan amendment request to change the future land use designation for a property on north side of uh Hudson Bridge Road, Hudson Bridge Drive, excuse me, comprising a parcel number uh zero three two-one zero. [1:21:22, 1:21:42]: From a medium density mix use to a medium density residential to allow for construction of a townhome development. Applicant at Lenar, Georgia, LLC, Agent Battle Law PC. The property is located in land lot twenty-one of District Six and contains twenty [1:21:42, 1:21:47]: [4913.5, 4915.5]: Sran Farm upalo. [1:22:01, 1:22:03]: Okay. All right. [1:22:03, 1:22:23]: Um mayor. Yes sir. Um I would like to request that you um read the whole thing? Yes, sir. Okay. So I'll go through all the and then we'll have to we have to vote on them on individually. You realize that, right? Yes sir. Okay, so well let me read the next one then. Resulting case RZ-2024-01. Once again, Council District 5. Consideration of request. [1:22:23, 1:22:43]: To rezone property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprising a parcel 032-01026000 from the C2 General Commercial Zoning District to MFR Multifamily Residential Zoning District to allow for the construction of the town home development. The property also lies within a [1:22:43, 1:23:03]: Uh uh PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. Applicant once again Lenard Georgia LLC Agent Battle Law PC. The property is located on land lot 21 of District 6. And it contains 20.367 acres. Once again, Ms. Anderson will give us our details. Next is variants case number VR dash [1:23:03, 1:23:05]: two zero two four dash zero three. [1:23:05, 1:23:06]: Fairness request number one. [1:23:07, 1:23:13]: Council District 5, consideration of variance requests for two variances on a property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive. [1:23:14, 1:23:34]: Comprising of a parcel number 032 that's zero one zero two six zero zero zero to allow for the construction of a town home development. Once again, invariance request number one would reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from required fifty feet to twenty feet. The property also lies within a PMU Parkway Mix Use Overlay District. [1:23:34, 1:23:51]: Applicant Lanier, Georgia, LLC, Agent Battle Law PC. The property is located in Landlock 21, District 6 and contains 20.367 acres. Mr. Anderson will address that as well. [1:23:52, 1:24:12]: Once again, District 5, uh consideration of variance requests for two variances on property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprising process of 032-01026000 to allow for the construction of townhome development. Variance request two would reduce the size of the yard setbacks to the townhome lots between buildings for the required [1:24:11, 1:24:31]: 15 feet to 10 feet. The property also lies within a PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. Applicant Lanaire Georgia LLC Agent Battle Law PC. The property is located on landlock 21 of District 6 and it contains 20.367 acres. Presented once again by Ms. Anison. Okay, Miss Anison. Yours, sir. Please. [1:24:35, 1:24:45]: Uh the case of facts the mayor basically went over this. Uh the den the proposed density for the project is six point eight seven units per acre, twenty um [1:24:45, 1:24:51]: acres in total. Uh the property characteristics is currently vacant land, mostly uh wooded. [1:24:52, 1:25:12]: Uh the current future land use designation is medium density mixed use. Current zoning of the property is C2. Uh the department posted the zoning sign on July 16, 2024. Here's our aerial photo of the site. You can see it's wooded and vacant. Here's a uh aerial photo of the site with the uh [1:25:12, 1:25:13]: Site plan. [1:25:15, 1:25:16]: Okay. [1:25:24, 1:25:29]: Here's a copy of the um of the um of an aerial photo with the site plan in intertwined. [1:25:33, 1:25:35]: There's a street view of the subject property. [1:25:42, 1:25:47]: Here's another angle of the street other street view, other subject property. [1:26:03, 1:26:10]: Here's the overall uh site plan of the of the development. Um [1:26:12, 1:26:27]: The project will be comprised of fee simple town homes, twenty feet w twenty-four feet wide, uh proposed f twenty foot front yard setback and ten feet in between buildings for a total of 127 units at a density of six point eight units per acre. [1:26:32, 1:26:34]: Here's a rendering of the proposed [1:26:37, 1:26:38]: Town Holmes. [1:26:40, 1:26:42]: The elevations, the front elevations. [1:26:47, 1:26:51]: The applicant is requesting to go to medium density residential. [1:26:52, 1:27:00]: Here's a p uh a photo of the um City of Stockbridge future land use map with the surrounding uh land uses. [1:27:02, 1:27:22]: Here's the surrounding land use designation. Property to the north, you got the St. Ives apartments, St. Margaret subdivision. Both of those are high density residential. Property to the south, you got commercial uses fronting on Hudson Bridge Road, including JJ Liquor and Western Union. And also you have the Hudson Bridge Townhomes. Those are [1:27:22, 1:27:42]: Medium density residential and high density residential. Property to the east, you got adjacent uh shopping center, which is medium density uh residential as a land use. And property to the west, you got the Oakwood subdivision and the Oakwood Manor subdivision. Those are medium density residential and [1:27:42, 1:27:45]: Both of them both of them are medium density residential. [1:27:47, 1:28:07]: Uh the surrounding land use uh densities. You got the St. Ives apartments with a density rate of one unit per acre. You got the St. Margaret uh subdivision, fifty-four comprise of fifty-four units with a density rate of three units per acre. You got the Hudson Bridge Townhomes, which comprise of 13 units at a density rate of one unit per acre. [1:28:07, 1:28:25]: And the Oak Village subdivision has 45 units with a density rate of 4.5 units per acre. And you got the Oak Manor, Oakwood Oakwood Manor subdivision with 41 units with a density rate of one unit per acre. And Lanier is proposing 6.87 units per acre. [1:28:30, 1:28:41]: Uh the staff analysis after staff analyzed all the data and and uh materials that s were submitted, uh we find out we've we determined that this project is suitable for their requested um [1:28:42, 1:28:50]: For their request to go to medium density residential. So staff recommend approval for the CP, the comp plan amendment related to this project. [1:28:54, 1:28:56]: Now I'll move I'll move along to the rezoning portion. [1:29:03, 1:29:11]: The applicant, once again, the applicant is uh requesting to be rezoned from C2 to the MFR to allow for development of a townhome community with 140 units. [1:29:13, 1:29:20]: This is a picture of the city of Stockbridge zoning map. You can see that there is related uh zoning districts in the vicinity. [1:29:23, 1:29:26]: Uh here's the Parkway mixed use overlay district map. [1:29:30, 1:29:30]: Um [1:29:32, 1:29:50]: After going through the analysis, the applicant's request to be rezoned to MFR is consistent with the City of Stockbridge comprehensive plan and our staff recommended approval of the rezoning. Now I move along to the variance portion. [1:29:51, 1:29:52]: Oh. [1:29:59, 1:30:03]: Uh the applicant has submitted a request for a variance to reduce [1:30:05, 1:30:17]: The a reduction in the front yard setback of the town home lots in the MFR district from the required fifty feet to twenty feet and to reduce the side yard setbacks, uh the distance between the townhome buildings from the required twenty to ten feet. [1:30:19, 1:30:39]: Uh here's the MFR district setback requirements. It's 50 feet on the front yard, 20 feet on the side yard, and the rear yard 20 feet. The applicant is proposing 20. Uh side yard she's the applicant's proposing 10, and they meet this um the the uh current standards for the rear yard setback. [1:30:42, 1:31:02]: Uh, there are extraordinary and exceptional circumstances pertaining to this particular um property. Um and a literal interpretation of these provisions would deprive the uh applicant of rights. As a result of that, uh staff is recommending approval of both variances to reduce the front yard setback from [1:31:02, 1:31:14]: fifty feet. Instead of um twenty feet, staff is recommending thirty feet. And uh staff recommends the approval of the distance between the building from twenty feet to ten feet. And the applicant is here tonight. [1:31:15, 1:31:21]: Okay, before the applicant comes up, I wanna know Council any rent questions for Mr. Anderson right now. Go ahead, Mr. [1:31:22, 1:31:25]: Uh hold on, Mr Tom, stand by. Queen, Mr. Anside, qua. [1:31:25, 1:31:45]: Yeah, certainly the number uh that uh has been discussed and I think Ms. Bowdo's gonna update. Uh we've been working on this project, um talking about it for nearly a year now. Um there was some initial discussions, I think back in January, even before that, and certainly there have been some discussions on what was appropriate. [1:31:45, 1:32:05]: Appropriate for the community and what is not appropriate for the community. And a lot of feedback in terms of what the community wanted to see and what is actually going to actually go there. Initially the number was as high as 150 plus. That number was, as you see here, was cut down to 140. And now [1:32:05, 1:32:25]: Now the number is 127. So we're 23 down from uh where we started at, which was 150. So in working with it, uh the initial plan called for two car garage, one-car garages, and uh certainly I would was not supportive of that. [1:32:25, 1:32:45]: Two car garages on all the units. All the units now have two car garages as the part was delayed so that the adjustments could be made to the plan to remove all of the one-car garages so that we would have two car garages on all of the units to maintain the value of the area. [1:32:45, 1:33:05]: And to support that. Now, certainly we had some discussions on what was appropriate for it in terms of the community being gated versus being an open community. We had the discussions about the community, about uh traffic and transportation, and the very best. [1:33:05, 1:33:25]: News that we got was there's a$54 million road project that has just commenced. A$54 million road project that will start right there at Walmart where the McDonald's is. It will proceed south as a four-lane road as soon as you cross from the Walmart and [1:33:25, 1:33:28]: In the Bank of America you will be able to go south. [1:33:28, 1:33:47]: uh to directly to Jodico Road. You will be able to go on from there all the way to Jonesboro Road under this new four-lane highway. The state has invested fifty-four million dollars in this project to improve traffic in the area. And what they generally have told us is listen, [1:33:47, 1:33:56]: We understand that y'all have needs for traffic in this particular area. And for us to put fifty-four million dollars there, this is where it all go. [1:33:57, 1:34:17]: We could put it on a two-lane road somewhere else. We could put it um, you know, in a more um you know area that where the infrastructure wasn't there, but when the state steps up and plans to spend fifty-four million dollars uh on a project, and honestly, ideally, if you look at it, if you're a resident living [1:34:17, 1:34:26]: at this particular development, you could basically walk to Walmart because a lot of times these particular projects are approved [1:34:27, 1:34:47]: And Jodeco was kind of proved in the inverse of this, where the rooftops came first. In this situation, the commercial was already built in the Walmart, the Bank of America, you know, you have the Children's Health Care Center already there. So the commercial is already there. So there's no commercial that is actually [1:34:47, 1:35:07]: Included in this. It's all residential. The original zoning was mixed use so that those residents will be able to take advantage of the Walmart or what have you. And what would generally happen is these residents, once the new road is complete, and the new road is supposed to be complete in December of 2026. [1:35:07, 1:35:27]: If you can't see it now from the Hudson Bridge roadside, but there are logging companies out there working right now to remove it. And they removed a bunch like ten tru ten truckloads of log so far in orders for the rud right of way to be moved through there. So these residents, again, once they leave their area, they'll be able to take [1:35:27, 1:35:47]: Take a left, go toward Walmart, go down the hill by Bank of America, go directly to Jodico Road, and continue on to Jonesboro Road without ever getting on I-75. Nobody in here has that type of access currently, but that's what this neighborhood would have. And being [1:35:47, 1:36:07]: Able to access this particular area. But certainly those things are very important in doing what we wanted to do. We had a number of discussions about uh the the amount of brick that would be involved uh in the development. Uh the came forward. There's a lot of push and pull where we talked about. [1:36:07, 1:36:27]: which units will have full side on the brick uh on the units so that that that the the appearance and the value would be upheld and then uh subsequently there was a there was uh a proposal for them to add brick to the side uh of the units uh as well so certainly I just wanted to give [1:36:27, 1:36:47]: Get that out there and let everybody know, honestly, these there's been so many discussions that have gone on along this period of time to make sure that whatever we proposed and whatever was presented was actually something that would be befitting of the community. Because this product that you see. [1:36:47, 1:37:07]: See displayed right here. This wasn't the original product. And I know, and I'm gonna tell you all out there who I it really disappoints me that one of the neighbors put out a rendering of a neighborhood that had no connection with this. It was never good, the picture that you [1:37:06, 1:37:26]: You saw on next door was never even proposed, but it was presented to you as what the neighborhood would look like. We talked and discussed what the neighborhood would look like, and this is what the neighborhood will look like right here with these town homes, with the with the overhangs on them, with porches on them. Um [1:37:26, 1:37:46]: with a nut with uh with the brick and then as miss Gantt says she likes to have that variation so you can have some options of having a craftsman style home so there's some flexibility there uh as well so those are uh what I wanted to do because there's been some public um comments back to [1:37:46, 1:38:03]: to me about what the public wanted to see and it's a conc concern about uh the traffic and the infrastructure over there. But certainly uh the news is good with the state fending fifty four million dollars on a brand new highway uh to go through this area. Thank you. Okay. [1:38:03, 1:38:23]: Mr. Thomas, sir. Yes. Mr. Anderson. Yes, sir. Uh my concern is with setbacks. And I've been wanting to ask this question um before. And then I notice here uh it is a request for the front yard setback. Yes, sir. The backyard setback. No, not the rear yard, just [1:38:23, 1:38:41]: the front yard and the distance in between buildings. Okay. So the they're they're asking for a they were originally asking for a a 30 foot reduction in the front yard setback, but they have agreed to uh a 30 foot front yard setback in the updated site plan. [1:38:41, 1:39:01]: So with with setbacks, I'm looking well, give me your I guess reasoning and future uh reasoning for setbacks when originally we had set it at 50 and it seems that most of these requests are coming in now is to it's to set [1:39:01, 1:39:21]: So just give me uh uh first philosophy. Uh yes, sir. Um behind this. Yes, sir. Um when the when the unified development code was um uh adopted in March of uh twenty twenty two, it had uh a s front yard setback requirement in the MFR district of fifty feet. Uh [1:39:21, 1:39:23]: However, um [1:39:25, 1:39:36]: past few years we have um come to discover that most jurisdictions has have a front yard setback of twenty five feet. Okay. So um we'll be coming forward um to counsel [1:39:36, 1:39:40]: In the next couple of weeks to finalize our new MFR standards. [1:39:40, 1:39:44]: We're we're updating that section in the unified development code and we'll be um [1:39:45, 1:39:58]: stating that the city of Stock we'll recommend that the City of Stockbridge has the thirty foot front yard setback. But uh in a survey of all the surrounding communities and jurisdiction, we found that most places have a twenty five foot front yard setback for town homes. [1:39:58, 1:40:08]: So that's why um in in the past the council has approved um a reduction to thirty feet. So we're trying to be consistent with our recommendation. [1:40:09, 1:40:27]: So once these changes are made with the unified development code, these requests then will not be coming Yeah, it will significantly reduce the amount of requests as it relates to front yard setbacks. We will be uh keeping with the n national standards and uh best practices, best practices as it relates to front yard setbacks. [1:40:28, 1:40:30]: Thank you. All right. [1:40:30, 1:40:50]: Any questions, sir? Uh Ms. Gantt? No question. Okay. You you have something else to do? Yeah, I just wanted to add this. Councilman, I'm fully on board with what you just said, pretty much, and I'm on board with what the staff recommendation is. That's the standard that we have set here in the community. So certainly that's the staff recommendation as well. Yes, sir. That that we [1:40:50, 1:41:10]: go with third because that's what we've been doing. So certainly I think you all have made it clear that that's what we wanted. So that's certainly a there a pri they are are or allowed to ask, but certainly that's what we've um generally settled upon in almost every development that we've approved, right? Thank you for that. Thank you. Ms. Battle, please [1:41:10, 1:41:20]: Please. Join Mr. Anderson and uh I don't know if you I don't know if you have any more of our presentation or something you wanna lay out for the rest of myself and the rest of the council. [1:41:20, 1:41:29]: I'm sorry, I went to the wrong Anyway. I do have a presentation. Okay. And uh let me see if I can get back to mine. There we go. I think we're good. [1:41:40, 1:42:00]: Good evening, Michelle Battle with Battle Law, 3562, Habersham at North Lake, Tupper, Georgia, 30084. Um glad to be here before you all this evening, representing Lenar. I'll try not to be too redundant. Um we are seeking the future land use amendment from medium distantly mixed use. [1:42:00, 1:42:11]: to medium density residential. And the purpose of that is because our project, while a part of a larger mixed-use development, is a single parcel. Oops. [1:42:11, 1:42:31]: Sorry, right there. Let me try that again. Michelle Battle with Battle Law, 3562, Haversham at North Lake Tucker, Georgia. Um, we are seeking a future land use amendment from medium density um mixed use to medium density residential. That is really fueled by the fact that the medium density mixed use designation um [1:42:31, 1:42:51]: Requires a mixture of uses from our perspective. This is a single parcel that we are seeking to develop for residential that's within an area that already has the mixed use component to it. So by making that change, we are allowed to do the development and rezone to MFR. Also the [1:42:51, 1:43:11]: This property is already indicated is in the parkway overlay is within the overlay district and the MFR district is consistent with that overlay as well. The rezoning we are seeking is from general commercial to multifamily, and it's already been discussed about the two variances that we are adding. [1:43:11, 1:43:31]: Asking for. Certainly we feel that the 50-foot, as staff has already indicated, is not standard. Much more typical for a single-family detached home. These units will be closer into the street. However, we'll still maintain sufficient distance to allow for the two cars in the [1:43:31, 1:43:51]: garage as well as two cars in the parking pad in front without any um car or um SUV overhanging into um the right-of-way. And so I think that that's the main thing is that you don't want cars hanging into the right-of-way and we will still be able to achieve that um with the 30-foot um setback [1:43:51, 1:44:11]: versus a 20-foot. And then the variance to reduce the side yard setback from five feet to 10 feet was also proposed. When we look at the site, we are adjacent and kind of smashed between single family detached residentials, some multifamily north of us. [1:44:11, 1:44:31]: And to the, actually that's to the east of us. And north of us is technically the Walmart facility. Along with Taco Bell on one side. We've got a liquor store across the street on the other side. We've got a strip center that is located north of the site. [1:44:31, 1:44:46]: as well. And we can see here on the zoning map where it's currently zone C2, while there is MFR certainly already in the area and immediately adjacent to us on the north side. [1:44:47, 1:45:07]: The property immediately um I I'll say to the left on the site plan, um those properties are actually located in unincorporated uh Henry County. Um so we are really kind of the last parcel on this side um with um being adjacent to unincorporated um Henry County. [1:45:07, 1:45:07]: Mm-hmm. [1:45:08, 1:45:28]: When we look at the site, the subject property is kind of a part of what had been an originally conceived 72.69 acre planned commercial retail residential project, which was being developed by multiple owners. Hudson Bridge Drive is a private street which provides shared access. [1:45:28, 1:45:48]: To over 20 stores, including the following businesses: QT, Walmart, Chipotle, JNJ Liquor, Taco Bell, Zaxby's, Murphy's Gas Station, Mellow Mushroom, Arby's Discount Tire, and Bank of America. In 2004, the 22.076 acres was owned that we're looking at was owned by the Baptist Red. [1:45:48, 1:46:08]: Retirement communities of Georgia and along with the adjacent 9.67 acres that has been developed as a commercial retail plaza. As part of that development, at that time, the Baptist retirement communities had actually agreed to place a restrictive covenant on this property, which prohibited it from [1:46:08, 1:46:28]: From even being developed for any type of retail purposes, despite the fact that it was zoned C2. But the residential apartments were never developed. That particular restriction did go away, but it gives you some sense that this was always intended to be a space for some type of residential development. [1:46:28, 1:46:48]: And that initially it was kind of conceived it would be apartments. And when you look at the overlay district, that allows currently up to 45 units per acre under the overlay district, all the way up to 60, depending upon how many amenities and other things that you use. [1:46:48, 1:47:08]: Nowhere close to that, being at under seven units per acre. We have not even attempted to reach that level of density. I will say that I had another client that had been interested in this property where we commenced with an application. They did want to do a multifamily project. Commissioner [1:47:08, 1:47:23]: uh council member alexander asked them to um s consider adding a fee simple component with some townhomes. Um fortunately they were not able to make that project work and so they elected to withdraw their application and since that time Lenar has picked up the ball. [1:47:23, 1:47:43]: Um with the proposed project. When we first came before you, we were looking at the project at a hundred over 140 units on the site, all townhomes. However, there were single-family, sorry, there were one car garage and two car garage units. We have since, after um meeting with the commissioner, changed to [1:47:43, 1:48:03]: The current updated site plan, which was shown by staff. Um, where we come in off of Hudson Bridge Drive, there will be an amenity area off to the right where we will have uh a swimming pool and clubhouse. Um, also the mail kiosk will be over in that area, and we will also have um some guests. [1:48:03, 1:48:23]: parking within that space. As you come into the community, when you get down a little bit further to the left, you'll be able to make that turn and in kind of a partial cul-de-sac, there will be a playground that will be located there, kind of a pocket park with a few parking spaces as well. [1:48:23, 1:48:43]: in front of that area. And then as you continue around, there's also a secondary pocket park area with some more additional parking that will be open space that will allow for community play and recreation. We do have access onto the adjacent community [1:48:43, 1:49:03]: Community. We're fine with whether that's a full service access or if it were more appropriate to have that as some type of gated access with a Knox box if you didn't want to have direct contact into that adjacent community. We believe, however, that having that point. [1:49:03, 1:49:23]: point of access would allow residents over there to be able to access the Walmart and other spaces without having to come back out onto Hudson Bridge Road and then come back around past um the QT and go through. So it would be a much better access point to allow for that. [1:49:23, 1:49:25]: level of connectivity. [1:49:26, 1:49:46]: Um one of the things that was discussed was um brick, and brick was very important um to Councilmember Alexander. Um we have arrived, we believe, at what we hope is a compromise position um in which we will have five units that will have brick sides for units one, fifty-six, fifty-seven. [1:49:46, 1:50:06]: 189 and 127. Those would basically be those units that are visible from the street, both from Hudson Bridge and then from the side street off into the Oak, I can't want to say Oakville, but I don't think that's what it is, manor subdivision that's adjacent. So we would have [1:50:06, 1:50:26]: Um, all brick on those sides, and the balance of those units would have a brick water table that would be no less than six feet in height, is what we are proposing. The original water table would have been somewhere around two feet. We have increased that um by three times the amount up to six feet so that you have a nice um facade in between. [1:50:26, 1:50:46]: Between the units, but again, those units that face the public right-of-way would be all brick on the side. Again, we are looking at 127 units 24 feet wide. These units will be roughly 800-1,800 um square feet up to [1:50:46, 1:50:57]: to about 2,000 um square feet in size with both uh three and potentially four bedroom units um that will all be for sale units. [1:50:58, 1:51:18]: This gives you an idea of the green space that's on this site. One of the things that you might notice, and I'm going to go back a little bit, is that our site plan has a stream located on the north side of the site. And so you've got a tremendous amount of green space that will be left in place that kind of buffers up. [1:51:18, 1:51:32]: us from the um businesses that are located um adjacent within that um subdivision. I think I have more time because we had three applications that we took at one time. Yes ma'am, thank you. [1:51:35, 1:51:55]: Um these are the facades um that we proposed. Um Lennar came back after comments from Councilmember Alexander and revamped um what was originally proposed. You can see here that we have more gr decorative garages that um will be different colors that kind of blend in with the facades of the homes. Um [1:51:55, 1:52:15]: In terms of the different architectural features, we are allowing for architectural accents, which you see more up around the roof line of the property. Additionally, this doesn't show the brickwater table or up to the six feet on the sides, but that again is something that we are. [1:52:15, 1:52:17]: are um proposing and have agreed to do. [1:52:19, 1:52:22]: I do have a video, so I'm gonna let that play. [1:52:24, 1:52:26]: To give you an idea of the project. [1:52:35, 1:52:55]: And I think you will see as we are moving through, we are holding to the standard with regards to the different looks. We think it's a very clean, upscale look for the area, particularly when we look at some of the other townhome communities that are located, no disrespect, but we think that this will be one of the [1:52:55, 1:53:06]: prime ones in this area, um in the immediately surrounding area of the site and looking at all the things, wonderful things that are happening along uh this side of Stockbridge. [1:53:09, 1:53:18]: This is the area um where we would have the gazebo um not the gazebo, sorry, the clubhouse and the pool areas in the male kiosk. [1:53:20, 1:53:21]: This is the swimming pool area. [1:53:24, 1:53:44]: And all of this open space area will be maintained by the HOA. There will be a mandatory HOA with mandatory homeowner assessment dues. They will be required to pay those dues in connection with the maintenance and upkeep of the surrounding of the area. [1:53:43, 1:54:03]: And one of the things that staff, and we'll go over this, but there was a request with regards to it being a gated community. We are actually opposed to it being a gated community for a couple of reasons. Number one, having a gated community means that all of the streets that are located within this community would have to be private streets. [1:54:03, 1:54:23]: By having them as private streets, that means that these homeowners will be responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of those roadways. And quite honestly, with only 127 units, they already will have three different separate amenity areas, including the pool that they will have to take care of and maintain, along with the clubhouse, along with the playground. [1:54:23, 1:54:43]: Ground area and the other open space, all of that will be wrapped into their annual, potentially monthly dues that they will have to pay on the site, rolling in additional costs for the maintenance and upkeep of those roads, along with the detention ponds, mind you, because they will also have to maintain those. [1:54:43, 1:55:03]: We feel we'll place um when you look at the overall cost for these units, which we believe will be in the high threes to low fours, based on um the amount of brick and other amenities within the community. Um we believe that that's around where the price points um will land. Um and that's assuming [1:55:03, 1:55:23]: In the next two years, it could be much higher than that. We are very concerned about adding too much burden onto this community, and I think it also blocks off the ability of the adjacent community to be able to come through the site and make it over to the Walmart and the other stores without having to come back and add more traffic. [1:55:23, 1:55:30]: Traffic onto um Hudson Bridge Road. So or yeah, Hudson Hudson Bridge. [1:55:30, 1:55:31]: Boulevard. [1:55:31, 1:55:51]: Sorry, Hudson Bridge. I'm just gonna call it Hudson Bridge. One's drive and I think the other's road. So without having those cars having to come back out on the Hudson Bridge, they would be able to make that connection. Um they could walk through the community because there will be sidewalks. So that would allow for walkability as well as reducing cars back out on the main thoroughfare in order to get into [1:55:51, 1:56:11]: To the Walmart and the other uses that are there. We are consistent with the request to have 10-foot sidewalks along Hudson Bridge Road. We did want to note that there is actually a stream, as we indicated previously, on the property, and as a result of that, there is about a 10-foot [1:56:11, 1:56:31]: 10-foot drop at a certain portion of the property into the site, which makes it very difficult to have a 10-foot sidewalk along the entirety. So we're asking to go ahead and place that 10-foot sidewalk up to the spaces where you have the significant drop-off because at that point we would be required to put in significant retaining. [1:56:31, 1:56:36]: walls in order to ensure the safety of folks being able to walk around there. [1:56:36, 1:56:56]: I can tell you that that area that I'm showing here shows that drop off. It's actually roughly more like 20 feet from where the current sidewalk is dropping down. But that's only really kind of at the intersection where you're entering into the adjacent commercial component. So a significant [1:56:56, 1:57:16]: Portion of the frontage along this property will have 10-foot sidewalks as proposed. With regards to the staff's conditions, I just want to run through those. There are a couple that we would ask for modifications. Number one, in section 2A, the to add the last revised date of September 26, 2024. [1:57:16, 1:57:36]: for the site plan, which shows the 24 lots with the two-car garages. Currently the staff recommendation makes reference to the plan from February. So we want to make sure that we are referencing the correct site plan. We would like to delete the gated community requirement. I've already provided my rationale [1:57:36, 1:57:56]: Why we feel like that is more appropriate. Um one staff also in 2D um requested eight foot sidewalks. We are asking for them to be five foot sidewalks. That is what is standard. Um and um the eight-foot is more for a pure mixed-use development. Um we don't believe that that is what we are, and therefore [1:57:56, 1:58:16]: Or under the code, the five-foot requirement should prevail. That also plays into why we asked for 2e, where it says that there will be an eight-foot multi-use path in the interior of the community, that we would remove that, and that the amenities will be a pool, clubhouse, a pocket park with a playground. [1:58:16, 1:58:36]: Ground and one pocket park with just open space. Then there was 3A and B. In 3A and B, there's reference to the one-car garage units and the percentage of the units that can be one-car garage. We would ask for that to be deleted and instead replace that there will be a two-car garage with [1:58:36, 1:58:50]: brick fronts with hardy plank or other fiber cementace accents, a six-foot brick water table on the sides, except that units 1, 56, 57, 89, and 127 shall have a full brick side. [1:58:50, 1:58:53]: And then finally the external sidewalk along the development [1:58:53, 1:58:56]: property line shall be ten feet up to where [1:58:56, 1:58:58]: The topo requires a retaining wall. [1:58:58, 1:59:03]: So um otherwise we are comfortable with the recommendations made by staff. [1:59:03, 1:59:23]: And we appreciate all the work and effort. Um, Councilmember Alexander and I have been around and around. He probably got real tired of me and a little testy with me the other day because I was being uh a zealous advocate for my client, but I also understand what his objective is um in terms of bringing quality development um into the city of Stockbury. [1:59:23, 1:59:38]: Bridge and certainly within his district. And so I have great great respect for that. And uh as we continue to try and do our job out here, um, we try to do our best to um meet you where you are, um, even though sometimes I can't give it all, but I hope that this is close enough. So thank you. [1:59:38, 1:59:52]: Thank you for your presentation. Um I would imagine please don't go anywhere'cause we have some pretty sure we have some questions. So Mr. Alexander, you wanna continue on, sir? You kept some thoughts? Yeah, let me just say this. Uh I appreciate it. We've been battling it out. [1:59:52, 2:00:12]: Miss Battle. Absolutely. We've been doing that. And trying to figure out how this was gonna work, uh, in terms of getting what the city wanted and getting what we wanted, what you want or your client wanted. Certainly affordability did come into the equation in terms of what we wanted in in the final product uh of the [2:00:12, 2:00:32]: this particular development. Um I certainly uh in terms of uh these initial requests certainly we had many discussions about the community being gated and certainly that was something that I was desirous of and the community was desirous of uh and just uh with some of the comments that had come [2:00:32, 2:00:52]: Forward. Um in terms of the sidewalk itself, again, 10 foot along the frontage up until the stream being required. Certainly, uh staff has recommended made some good recommendations here, and certainly we're trying to go along that destination of having uh multiple. [2:00:52, 2:01:12]: to use paths as far as possible and with the exception of now that you're asking for the stream uh situation then um you know the the path is is appropriate because you're getting a reduction in how much 10 foot path that you have to do. Certainly with [2:01:12, 2:01:32]: We went round and round on three A and three B, and I think this is the appropriate solution in that these units one fifty six, fifty-seven, eighty-nine, and one twenty-seven will have a hundred percent brick uh on the side, and then there will be a water table that was initially a small water table. I think we had to see. [2:01:32, 2:01:52]: having she said six foot here, I think we had discussed having about half of it be um be uh uh uh uh we you say six foot here, I think we had discussed half of it being um the water table extending up to half. So whatever that six feet is between where we were in [2:01:52, 2:02:12]: uh with this right here. But certainly you said around six feet. So certainly we'll be able to, staff will be able to work through this and come to a resolution with uh with uh with uh with what is appropriate uh on the building ab uh six around six feet and above. So we'll go there. [2:02:12, 2:02:32]: I I I approve of the development because I think that it will be beneficial to the entire area and I think it raises the quality of the area. And what is the price point again for these particular units? They'll be in the high threes and low fours. Okay, three fifth three. [2:02:32, 2:02:37]: fifty uh in in in around the area. And the square footage was eighteen hundred to [2:02:38, 2:02:39]: A little over two thousand. [2:02:39, 2:02:59]: Right. And so that's a qu when my desire always in these projects has been to have a single family, a both of these are single family, which is a town home and detach, is that when you walk inside these units, you will not be able to tell the difference between it and a single family detached home. [2:02:59, 2:03:19]: Because it at 1,800 to 2,000 square feet, they're larger than a lot of single family homes, which are 1,500 to 18 to 1,800. So the difference here being is that you will have uh again a very nice drawn-out development in terms of uh what what all is [2:03:19, 2:03:33]: presented and then the package put together will be a very desired neighborhood with which to call home. Those are my comments. Okay. Council, any other questions that you may have for uh Miss Battle at all? [2:03:35, 2:03:41]: Okay. And what do I understand from you then Mr. Alexander, these staff conditions seem to be a all right with you at this point? [2:03:41, 2:04:01]: The staff conditions are pretty much uh what we wanted to go with here in terms of and then as again we had actually discussed okay amongst ourselves having the community be gated. All right. Oh I understand so uh public hearing. So anybody on my far left with comments uh that they don't like particular [2:04:01, 2:04:09]: staff conditions or this this community be built. Uh disagree with anything that's happening. On the on far left, in the middle. [2:04:10, 2:04:17]: A far right. These are com okay, ma'am, these are comments uh that are not in agreement with this. Okay. Give your name and address, please. [2:04:17, 2:04:37]: Um good evening. My name is uh Jocelyn Williams, 190 Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. For the last hour I've been uh amazed and so grateful for um this wonderful presentation by Miss Battle. Um I'm in complete opposition to it because I live in the area and there are [2:04:37, 2:04:57]: Over 100 businesses in the last three traffic lights that I go to this weekend. When I went to this weekend starting at Wendy's, I mean uh at Ms. uh Popeye's turning left going down uh Hudson Bridge Road and trying to go into QT, Bank of America, took me about [2:04:57, 2:05:17]: Fifteen minutes. I know we have to build. I know things will come. I'm just standing in opposition with five thousand other people that can't come. Uh I know you're gonna vote tonight, but I just wanted to let you know that I'm in opposition. The infrastructure is tiny as we keep building beautiful things around, but there's just not any room. [2:05:17, 2:05:30]: So I'm asking the council if you can just to hear the voices of the people in the community if you can. And thank you for your counsel. Once again, the beautiful presentation to Miss Bowell. Excellent presentation. Thank you. [2:05:30, 2:05:38]: Thank you. Okay, if there are no other comments uh uh against this or negative and aspect any comments for from my far left. Comments for this development. [2:05:38, 2:05:40]: In a million comments four. [2:05:41, 2:05:43]: Okay, my far right. Any comments four? [2:05:43, 2:05:46]: Okay, so on that note that I'll close out that portion. [2:05:47, 2:05:52]: Um Miss Battle and Ryan, b back up for a second. Traffic issues and concerns. How can you address that? [2:05:54, 2:06:04]: Traffic conditions. Yeah, just out of curiosity, traffic issues and concerns it concern that was mentioned here. Yeah, Miss uh the the applicant addressed uh most of the con traffic concerns about um [2:06:05, 2:06:08]: Uh changing their entryway to to being off of Hudson Bridge Road. [2:06:08, 2:06:23]: Okay. So that address most of the c concerns and also if we eliminate the um the gate, it would keep people from queuing in the streets and uh causing a backup. Um so we think that would be another remedy to uh alleviate the traffic concerns. [2:06:24, 2:06:43]: Okay. And I also um we need to um get the uh specific conditions down so when we make the uh motion we'll have it in the record. Okay. So there's some standard things that um that the um department requires along with um [2:06:44, 2:06:46]: Like flock cameras and um [2:06:48, 2:06:55]: the certain type of lights, street lights, black lights and things of that nature. So we want to make sure that we capture all that in the um [2:06:55, 2:06:56]: And the final version of [2:06:57, 2:07:00]: the conditions that will be associated with this. [2:07:00, 2:07:20]: Well, as I read through each one, it's four four we have to take four votes tonight. So as I read through go through each of that, all right, we'll see what the conditions are just uh associated with the rezoning. Everything else is just straight up approval. Recommended approval. Okay, rezoning okay, so that okay. Well the rezoning piece you're referring to, that's the second that'd be second vote then. Yes, sir. Right. All right. [2:07:20, 2:07:40]: Yes, sir. Let me say this again. As the the presentation and the discussion, I it may it merits sense that we might not want to gate the community because of the connectivity uh and the walkability uh through the community. Uh and um again [2:07:40, 2:08:00]: And having the gate open and close might actually impact the traffic in the area. So I think that would be a a general compound, but we're gonna insist, since it's gonna be walkable, that we do have the the trail that runs through the community. Uh the staff had recommended that that that we [2:08:00, 2:08:02]: We have a multi use trail through the community. [2:08:04, 2:08:24]: Let me double check double check. There was a comment that there was to be a walking trail. I don't know if that was supposed to be along the um the creek, although I would not be putting folks back there behind. Right, but if people are accessing and walking through the community, it would be good for them to be able to ride their bike through the community. [2:08:24, 2:08:44]: And for the residents to be able to ride their bike, they can't do that on a five-foot sidewalk. Go back to put the conditions back up there. They were already up there. Okay. I'd like to point out on the site plan itself that one of the challenges that we have is that we can't push back out the street widths that we [2:08:44, 2:09:04]: Are required to have if we're gonna put in eight foot sidewalks, we're gonna have to be able to push these units um back along with the fact that we are we had asked for the 20-foot setback, now we're at 30 feet. Well, what I'm saying is that we only need it on one side, we won't need it on both sides. Okay, just like through that main spine road there that's coming from the oak. [2:09:03, 2:09:16]: wood subdivision up until the uh the main entrance it would be one side would be eight foot and the other side would be the stri strategic five foot. So one side would be eight foot and the s other side would be five foot. Right. Okay. [2:09:17, 2:09:17]: All right. [2:09:19, 2:09:20]: Right. [2:09:24, 2:09:31]: So it seems like, um, just pointing out it would seem to me that would make sense if we did the sidewalk on this side. [2:09:32, 2:09:33]: Okay. [2:09:33, 2:09:40]: Okay, the only other thing that I think I have mentioned to you is that uh uh you s put the rendering back up there again. Okay. [2:09:42, 2:09:58]: is that those overhangs which are over the garage, instead of being the traditional uh shingles, that those would be metal roof versus having uh a shingled roof right there for the attractiveness and just the overall look. [2:10:02, 2:10:11]: What can I say right now? Um, you know, we went back and forth about that, but um I'm I don't have anybody here to say yes or no, so I guess I'll just acquiesce. [2:10:12, 2:10:16]: Thank you, I appreciate that. So yes, you're agreeing to that, is that what you're saying? [2:10:16, 2:10:18]: I don't think he's giving me much choice. [2:10:19, 2:10:20]: So thank you. [2:10:20, 2:10:27]: It it'll look very sharp there and it'll be something that we we actually that's gonna be one of the changes that we're making, right, Mr. Anderson? [2:10:28, 2:10:48]: Right. And one of the I mean the text amendment that we're working on. And the brick on the ends. Brick on the end. Right. We got that, we got the items that are in there. Put the conditions back up there. Number one, we got the buildings that are gonna have full brick on the side. And that would be building number 156, 57, 89, 127, what? [2:10:48, 2:11:08]: Have a hundred percent brick on the side. The rest of them will have the water table, which is a six foot uh water table on the side of brick going up to six foot high on the side. But these main buildings that will be visible from both entrances will have a hundred percent brick uh on the side. And again, we reduce the units right now that. [2:11:08, 2:11:17]: That um the um the density number will go down that you went from one forty down to one twenty seven. That original density number was basically What it was over seven. [2:11:18, 2:11:24]: Right, it was six point eight seven, but now with a hundred and twenty seven that'll go down. Yeah, and we'll condition on the site plan. [2:11:24, 2:11:38]: Absolutely. Okay, well that th I think we're that's that's what's agreeable. Uh and it seems to me two D then should change the eight foot sidewalk requirement to five foot on one side and eight foot on the other. [2:11:39, 2:11:54]: So we've had And then it will be ten foot along the frontage up to the screen. Correct. And I I put that in number four. And and I followed the um actual conditions, so two A, B, D. So that way you can follow it. [2:11:54, 2:11:58]: You got these jotted down, sir, so we can read'em. Okay. [2:11:58, 2:12:18]: So I'm gonna go through this process and those are those adjustments that have to be made after I read this process here to make sure we're added in properly. All right, so let's start this. Once again, comprehensive plan amendment, KCP-2024-01, Council District 5. Consideration of comprehensive plan amendment request to change the future land use. [2:12:18, 2:12:38]: Designation on the property on north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprising parcel 032-0102-6000 from a medium density mixed use to a medium density residential to allow for construction of townhome development. Applicant Leonard, Georgia LLC, Agent Battle Law. [2:12:38, 2:12:50]: L PC property is located on land lot twenty-one of the district six and it contains twenty point three seven three six seven acres. Okay. Now is there a motion to accept this as well? [2:12:51, 2:12:53]: So move. Is there a second? [2:12:53, 2:12:56]: I second. Mr Mr. Berry, I second that. [2:12:57, 2:12:59]: All on favor, please indicate. [2:13:00, 2:13:01]: Nice decision on that note. [2:13:02, 2:13:02]: Okay. [2:13:03, 2:13:23]: That's that passes. Rezoning case RZ-2024-01. Council District 5. Consideration and request to rezone property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive comprising a parcel that's 032-01-02600 from the C2 General Commercial Zoning District of N. [2:13:23, 2:13:43]: MFR multifamily, excuse me, multifamily residential zoning to zoning district to allow for the construction of a townhome development. The property also lies within a PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District, Applicant Lenaire, Lenar, Georgia, LLC, Agent, Paddle Law, PC. The property is located on landlock 21. [2:13:42, 2:13:54]: district six and contains twenty point three six seven acres. Once again I need a motion to accept this proposal. Okay. Would you read the conditions, Mr Anderson? [2:14:08, 2:14:19]: Make sure we can hear you, Mr. Anderson. Uh uh first condition will be a revised uh the the result of the the cycle that does the results be [2:14:20, 2:14:30]: Condition of a revised site plan of September twenty-sixth, twenty twenty four for the site plan showing all twenty-four foot lots with two car garages. [2:14:30, 2:14:31]: Um [2:14:33, 2:14:53]: There will be an eight-foot sidewalk with a barn on one side and a five-foot sidewalk on the other side. Um external sidewalk along the development property line should be 10-foot up to where the topo requires a retained wall. There'll be a level roof overhang over the garage, of course, block cameras at the entry. [2:14:53, 2:14:57]: It's uh black bowl lights. [2:15:00, 2:15:00]: Yeah. [2:15:05, 2:15:17]: Front elevation shall be brick. Um facing the public right of way buildings 156 156 5789 and 127 shall be all brick on the side. [2:15:18, 2:15:19]: Okay. [2:15:20, 2:15:20]: Your own. [2:15:24, 2:15:29]: Water table. The water table up to six foot on the rest of the buildings, yeah. [2:15:31, 2:15:44]: It's in the it's it's written down there. Brick water six foot brick water table on the sides except one fifty six, fifty seven, eighty nine, one twenty seven shall have full brick sides on them. So move. [2:15:44, 2:15:47]: Is there a second? I'm sorry. [2:15:47, 2:15:50]: Yeah, flock camera. So the mandatory HOA is that part of [2:15:51, 2:15:57]: It's in the code. Okay. Reduced to a hundred and twenty seven units. I didn't hear him say that. [2:16:00, 2:16:00]: Thank you. [2:16:01, 2:16:07]: And the thirty foot setback. I didn't hear that. [2:16:07, 2:16:11]: That's coming next. Oh I'm sorry, that's on the big That's next, yes, that's next. [2:16:11, 2:16:14]: And that they were going to be all four sale units. [2:16:16, 2:16:22]: That's in the code, right? Owner occupied. That's in the code. Owner occupied is in the code now, right? [2:16:24, 2:16:28]: Right. Is there a ten percent rental cap an easy? It's in the coding. [2:16:29, 2:16:30]: I'm just stuck anywhere. [2:16:31, 2:16:34]: All right, so m motion was made, you got the corrections on that. [2:16:35, 2:16:40]: Yes, sir. Did you say the metal roof? Uh metal roof overhang over the ports and garage. [2:16:44, 2:16:44]: Block himself. [2:16:45, 2:16:46]: Yeah, flying. [2:16:48, 2:16:49]: Light pose. [2:16:49, 2:16:51]: All right, thank you. [2:16:53, 2:17:10]: Okay, Ms. As I made a motion, so move that. That was Ms. Gantt, you second that? I do. Ms. Gantt second that. If there's no further discussion, all in favor please indicate. Okay. It passes unanimously on that note. Okay, now for the variance case R V two Zero Two Four Zero Three, Variance Request Number One. [2:17:11, 2:17:18]: Council District five consideration of variance request for two variables on a property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive comprising a parcel number [2:17:19, 2:17:39]: zero three two dash zero one zero two six zero zero zero to allow for construction of the town home development variance number request number one will reduce the front yard setbacks of the town home lots from required fifty feet to twenty feet. The property also lies within a PMU parkway mixed use overlay district applicant liner uh [2:17:39, 2:17:49]: Georgia LLC, Agent Battle Law, PC with the property is located in landlock twenty one of District Six and contains twenty point three six seven acres. Sir motion to accept this, please. [2:17:52, 2:18:10]: That the the we wanted the setback to be thirty feet on the front. I'm reading it. That's fine. You can make a motion to adjust that. Your motion would be to adjust whatever you need. Right, thirty feet uh on the front setback and the staff recommendation uh on the side setbacks. [2:18:10, 2:18:12]: Okay. Is there a second that motion? [2:18:12, 2:18:13]: I second. [2:18:13, 2:18:33]: All right, our favorite please indicate. Okay, so you now have to say on that. Okay. All right, next uh variance case of RV two zero two three, excuse me, two zero two four-zero three. Variance request number two, council district five. Consideration of variance requests for two variances on a property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprised on parcel zero. [2:18:33, 2:18:53]: That's zero one zero two six zero zero zero to allow for the construction of townhome development. Variance request number two would reduce the side of the yard setbacks of the townhome lots between buildings from require fifteen feet to ten feet. The property also lies within a PMU parkway mixed use overlay district. Applicant Lanier [2:18:53, 2:19:03]: Georgia LLC, Agent Banel Law, PC, properties located landlock twenty one of District Six and contains twenty point three six seven acres. I need a motion to accept this, please. [2:19:04, 2:19:15]: Sumo. Is there a second? Second. Ms. Berry Mr. Berry second that. No further discussion, all favor please indicate. Okay, you name this hidden. Thank you very much. Thank you. [2:19:16, 2:19:17]: Thank you, Ms. Battle. [2:19:18, 2:19:38]: Now I'm glad you is smiling. That's good. Okay. Announcement of upcoming meeting events. Upcoming meeting announcements. Council meetings will be held in city council chambers. Meeting dates, location, and times are subject to change. So contact city hall offices 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.stop. [2:19:38, 2:19:58]: Bridge. Stockbridge G A.org for updates. The Downtown Development Authority meeting is third Tuesday of each month. 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Join the City of Stockbridge for the Fifty Shades of Pink Love Walk to highlight [2:22:27, 2:22:36]: Breast cancer awareness and survivors at Clark Park, 111 Davis Road, Saturday, October 19th from 10:30 a.m. to 1 p.m. [2:22:37, 2:22:54]: Join Councilwoman Lakeitia Gantt for the annual Fall Festival at DeClark Community Park, 111 Davis Road, Saturday, October 26th, from 12 noon to 4 p.m. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, October 28th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Starbury City Hall. [2:22:54, 2:23:04]: Join Councilwoman Lakeisha Gann in partnership with Atlanta Food Truck Park at the night market of the Stockbridge Amphitheater parking lot from 6 p.m. to 9-30 p.m. November 7th. [2:23:04, 2:23:24]: And november twenty first. There will be vendors, food, trucks, activities, games, music, vibes. Contact Tam Bowers at the peaceofmind at gmail dot com for registration and additional information. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Tras Stockbridge Initiative and Center round educating highlights and causes and effects of littering and [2:23:24, 2:23:25]: [8605.5, 8625.5]: More information to follow on that. And Councilman Thomas for honoring veterans and continuing salute to our year long. Please send your pictures of veterans and their name, branch, rank, and years of service. Service there. Councilman Thomas will also distribute free smoke detectors along with the Fire Marshal Demetrius Wells. The date and location will be announced soon, so stay tuned for that. [2:23:45, 2:23:59]: Please contact Rosland Rawls to schedule an appointment with Meet the Mayor or for more information on council initiatives and events at 678-833-3348 or by way of email rawls at starbridgega.org. [2:24:00, 2:24:20]: 2024 con uh Stockbridge Amphitheater Concert Series, The Bridge. We're on our final 30 days. Sunday, uh October 20th, 2024, rescheduled show. We feature Charlie Wilson and special guest L DeBarge. So if you had a ticket previously for the uh show that for Charlie Wilson a couple months or so ago, we had thunderstorms kept us from completing that show. [2:24:19, 2:24:39]: So you can utilize that same ticket, that same seat to come for this particular concert and see El DeBarge, as well with Charlie Wilson, of course. October 26, 2024, Bony James, Slowburn Tour with special guest Damien Excabar, our jazz concert. And Saturday, November 2nd, 2024, of course, Dirty South. [2:24:39, 2:24:51]: Throwback Hip Hop Fest featuring East Side Boys, DJ Holiday, 95 South, Trey Bills, Redeem the Dream, DJ UNK, MC Shai D, and Kilo Ali. [2:24:52, 2:25:12]: All right, that's the last concert of 2024 season. But I have to admit, I gotta tell you, ladies and gentlemen, the um the concert we had uh Saturday night, our first youth concert, youth concert with that girl Lele is fantastic. And I'm telling you what, I I would look seriously, we're gonna s try our best to schedule another youth concert each and every year for the youth in the community to come. [2:25:12, 2:25:32]: By and enjoy themselves. And last night, sold-out concert for the Southern Soul and Blues. And we had a great time. Pax PAX sold-out amphitheater. Tucker, Pokey Bear, Sir Charles, King George, Entourage had a great time. Look forward to them coming back sometime next year as well. Um, a few a couple days ago. [2:25:31, 2:25:51]: Go. The Faith in Blue along with the Faith and Blue dealt with the Stockbridge Police Department and also in ministry. The faith-based community had a softball game at JP Mosley Park, and the Stockbridge Police Department actually won nine to eight in the softball game, but it's all about unity and community and community and community. [2:25:51, 2:26:11]: Committing it communion dealing with the community in this aspect, you know, so uh that happened. So look forward to them doing much things more things like that again as as well. And Tuesday, tomorrow, October fifteenth, early voting starts. Now I I've I've if you're a registered voter, you already know where you need to vote. But obviously most folks in this media area may go to [2:26:11, 2:26:24]: Murray Manus Conference and they're all set up for you to go vote. So go vote. There's your constitutional right, please do that. It is your power. You must do that. And of course the voting the actual voting day, election day is November fifth, but if you can get it done earlier, that'd be great. [2:26:25, 2:26:33]: That way you you save yourself some time and effort. So please go out and vote. All right. On that note, I do not have any executive session. [2:26:35, 2:26:36]: Yes, sir. You got something, sir? [2:26:36, 2:26:39]: When you finish, I do wanna Go ahead, sir. Go ahead. [2:26:40, 2:27:00]: I wanted to re-emphasize to everyone that's listening to the council uh leading up to Veterans Day, uh, we uh re-emphasizing to submit uh pictures of veterans uh rank service. Uh we wanted to do a special [2:27:00, 2:27:18]: recognition of all veterans during that time. I know we asked for pictures. Some have uh submitted, but I just want to reemphasize because we will do a special uh dedication for veterans during uh Veterans Month. Thank you. No problem. Yes ma'am. [2:27:20, 2:27:25]: and exemptions will be here in person Saturday. [2:27:27, 2:27:39]: All right, there you go. You just have that announcement, ladies and gentlemen. Fantastic. All right. On that note, uh once again, Council, I have no uh issues or nothing to know nothing about our executive session, so I ask for a motion to adjourn. [2:27:40, 2:27:47]: Okay, from Mr. Berry, is there a second? Oh from Mr. Thomas and Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. God bless you, we are now adjourned. Good night. [2:27:48, 2:27:51]: Okay. Let me I I reset the tone. [2:27:53, 2:28:05]: Obviously your wife and viral days, so to get things ready for Thursday. Oh yeah, as far as I know, I was I was actually there for a little while trying to get ready for the
  • 2024-10-07 · City Council · Transcript · Urban Redevelopment Agency Meeting

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    --- title: Urban Redevelopment Agency Meeting date: 2024-10-07 source: 2024-10-07_Urban_Redevelopment_Agency_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:43, 0:00:53]: All right, council, uh I have six o'clock, so I'd like to call our um Stockbridge uh URA meeting to order. [0:00:54, 0:01:00]: And with that note, uh invocation, please uh councilman Thomas, stand if you can, please. [0:01:03, 0:01:05]: Let us pray. [0:01:06, 0:01:14]: Oh Heavenly Father, we come before you once again to say thank you and to ask for your blessings. [0:01:15, 0:01:35]: And to provide for this council all of the resources we need to continue to make the city of Stockbridge a great city. We ask for your favor, we ask for your blessing, and we pray that all of our legislation today is in your favor. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. [0:01:34, 0:01:35]: Mm. [0:01:36, 0:01:48]: And the Pledge of Allegiance? One nation, under God, indivisible, which we and justice. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:01:52, 0:01:55]: Evening. Present. [0:02:06, 0:02:08]: Present. [0:02:13, 0:02:14]: President [0:02:15, 0:02:17]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate it. [0:02:17, 0:02:19]: Um board I need um [0:02:19, 0:02:20]: A motion to approve the agenda, please. [0:02:21, 0:02:22]: So moved. Is there a second? [0:02:22, 0:02:26]: Ms. Barber Secondett from uh Gantta Barber, all on favor please indicate. [0:02:27, 0:02:37]: Okay, so unanimous decision on that. I need a motion to approve the last meetings last meeting's minutes, which was September twenty fourth of twenty twenty four. You should have them in front of you. [0:02:39, 0:02:43]: Mayor Ford. Yes, Mayor. I do have a question though. It um Go ahead. [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: It shows only [0:02:48, 0:02:57]: I think every one of us was here except for Councilwoman Gantt though. And I'm looking at one of that last paragraph in the minutes. [0:02:57, 0:02:58]: Mm-hmm. [0:02:58, 0:03:00]: Looking at the motion. [0:03:01, 0:03:04]: Pass three zero says board member Gantt was not present for the vote. [0:03:05, 0:03:07]: So that would have been four of us. [0:03:08, 0:03:12]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Uh right, you're right. And but I went to [0:03:13, 0:03:17]: I went to um I was in the back. Why was still in? [0:03:19, 0:03:25]: No but that would still leave four members voting. [0:03:25, 0:03:28]: Councilwoman Gantt would make number five. [0:03:28, 0:03:29]: If she was [0:03:29, 0:03:31]: present for the vote. [0:03:32, 0:03:34]: So if you can make that correction. [0:03:36, 0:03:40]: I mean I will make the correction but I don't remember. [0:03:42, 0:03:44]: Passive way Alexander was a bit. [0:03:45, 0:04:00]: I will I will make the correction to the box. Or it can we are we able to table this so that and I'm not certain. Well I'm not certain who all was present. Um I just know that there was just one [0:04:01, 0:04:02]: That wasn't here. [0:04:02, 0:04:05]: Well Alexander H well, he was here for the meeting. [0:04:06, 0:04:11]: He's that he made a motion of initially to approve the previous mini meeting's minutes, so he was here. [0:04:11, 0:04:13]: I'm pretty sure he was here at the end of the meeting. [0:04:17, 0:04:21]: So if he was if if he was here that means it would be four I mean mis I miss um [0:04:22, 0:04:24]: This holiday. [0:04:24, 0:04:28]: You you had three zero. I I I'm pretty sure Alezan was here. [0:04:30, 0:04:34]: [275.0, 281.7]: Can we table these meeting minutes until it's confirmed and bring'em back at the next meeting? [0:04:43, 0:04:46]: Only for that and I know it's minor. [0:04:46, 0:04:57]: Yeah, I agree. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we table the minutes to the meeting until we can confirm the actual correct vote because we can't do anything until we can get it corrected anyway. [0:04:57, 0:04:58]: If there's a challenge to that. [0:04:59, 0:05:02]: And if you don't mind, um, Madam Clerk. [0:05:02, 0:05:03]: Um [0:05:03, 0:05:21]: If you can add that I was ac I was sick, like I had a fever, but I came to the back to executive session to hear the presentation. So if you don't mind noting that I was present for that portion, because we weren't gonna vote after that. I just needed to come and listen to the presentation. The way it reads now is if as if I didn't attend at all. [0:05:22, 0:05:24]: When we have these kind of meetings. [0:05:24, 0:05:25]: It's [0:05:25, 0:05:31]: you know, I have two younger kids so I have to wait until they're back home before I can come here. [0:05:33, 0:05:35]: Madam Clerk, you you got that note there? [0:05:38, 0:05:38]: Yes, ma'am. [0:05:38, 0:05:48]: So that would be for the motion to adjourn the executive session and also the motion to reconvene the meeting. [0:05:48, 0:05:57]: Yeah. Well the minutes have just the minutes. Yes. Yes, I made a motion to table the minutes until d until we can um get confirmed. [0:05:57, 0:05:58]: I second that. [0:05:59, 0:06:03]: Madam Clerk, you have all that? Okay. All in favor of the motion please indicate? [0:06:03, 0:06:09]: Damage decision. Appreciate it. Okay, now I need a uh well, motion to go in an executive session for real estate matters. [0:06:11, 0:06:21]: Mayor, I move that we go into executive session for on behalf of real estate issues. Okay, sir second. Ms. Barber second it, all in favor please indicate. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we'll go into executive session. Thank you. [0:06:21, 0:06:22]: You better. [0:06:32, 0:06:52]: No quarter. Are you you set? All right. Board, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. Okay, mr for Mr. Thomas. Is there a second? Second. Okay, all all approved. All approved. Okay, so you now see the decision. [0:06:52, 0:07:11]: All right, so at the foreman executive session that we have um nothing to report at this time um in reference to our discussion of the URA for property and real estate. So now I'm board I need a motion to end our URA meeting. So Okay for Mr. Uh Thomas again. Ms. again you second that? So okay. All in favor please indicate. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Okay, Sina Susan. God bless you. Good night.
  • 2024-09-24 · City Council · Transcript · URBAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING

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    --- title: URBAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING date: 2024-09-24 source: 2024-09-24_URBAN_REDEVELOPMENT_AGENCY_MEETING.wav --- [0:02:33, 0:02:46]: All right, council, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to get our uh meeting started, the URA meeting for uh Tuesday, September twenty fourth. I have at this point five oh two. I'd like to call the meeting to order. [0:02:46, 0:02:48]: And please stand for the invocation. [0:02:49, 0:03:09]: I'll do that. Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again to conduct the city's business, allow us to make good logical decisions, continue to move our city forward, be progressive in this uh in this particular area and do the best we can for our constituents, our citizens, constituents there. Please always, Lord, in your name. Amen. Okay. [0:03:09, 0:03:20]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:03:25, 0:03:28]: Uh present. [0:03:29, 0:03:38]: Vice Chair Thomas. Present. Board Member Alexander. Present. Board Member Barber. Present. Board Member Berry. Present. Board Member Gantt. [0:03:39, 0:03:59]: Please let the record reflect Board Member Gantt is not in attendance. Chair Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um board, I need a motion to approve the agenda, please. So is there a second? Mr. Barrett's second, all favor, please indicate. All right. And uh [0:03:59, 0:04:05]: need a motion to approve the minutes uh from the april eighth uh meeting. [0:04:06, 0:04:07]: So moving. Sir Second. [0:04:10, 0:04:13]: Mr Mr uh Thomas Second, all in favor please indicate. [0:04:15, 0:04:25]: All right, it's unanimous decision on that. Okay, we have a presentation um in reference to the downtown redevelopment project and uh since this is a real estate uh [0:04:28, 0:04:37]: I'm doing a presentation? Okay. All right then. Mr. Gardner, the presentation is gonna give us a presentation. Please do so, sir. Thank you. It's on you, sir. [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: All right. [0:05:05, 0:05:10]: Good afternoon. Afternoon, sir. Board members, Mr Chairman. [0:05:10, 0:05:13]: Um so tonight wanna discuss with you the [0:05:14, 0:05:16]: Uh downtown Stockbridge Town Center. [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: Um [0:05:18, 0:05:27]: Kind of show you talk to you guys a little bit about this at our retreat. Um started this process uh in earnest, I think back in [0:05:28, 0:05:35]: January, February of twenty twenty two, when I first got here, when we started initiating work around the tax allocation district. [0:05:36, 0:05:38]: Um recognizing that [0:05:38, 0:05:47]: Growth around the city of Stockbridge over the last thirty-five years have all occurred on the fringe while there's been no activity. [0:05:47, 0:05:49]: in the downtown area to expand. [0:05:50, 0:05:51]: Or to provide [0:05:52, 0:05:54]: new opportunities within the downtown. [0:05:55, 0:06:03]: Unlike our brethren sisters in the city of Stockbridge and the city of Locust Grove and the city of Hampton and specifically McDonough. [0:06:03, 0:06:05]: Where there is commercial and commerce. [0:06:06, 0:06:08]: being done in their downtown, there's none here. [0:06:09, 0:06:13]: So our growth over the last thirty plus years have been a donut. [0:06:14, 0:06:18]: All associated with what's happening on the fringes of the city. [0:06:18, 0:06:20]: To include along our interstate corridor. [0:06:21, 0:06:24]: Which is the reason why we have grown the way we have. [0:06:24, 0:06:26]: So with that [0:06:26, 0:06:30]: In bringing my wealth to background and downtown redevelopment. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: And redevelopment here. [0:06:32, 0:06:35]: Wanted to focus on how do we revive this downtown? [0:06:36, 0:06:37]: А до вистопенної [0:06:38, 0:06:45]: In places like Swannee and Alfareta and Decatur and all these other cities outside the city of Stockbridge and outside Henry County. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: How do we spend our money here? [0:06:48, 0:06:50]: Where we live and enjoy the opportunities here. [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: Right? [0:06:52, 0:06:53]: And so with that [0:06:53, 0:06:56]: Move forward with working with our group. [0:06:57, 0:07:05]: Kind of look at how do we repline this whole downtown and make it something that we typically see when we go on our retreats to visit other communities. [0:07:05, 0:07:07]: And what's happening in their downtown areas? [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: Right. [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: At our budget retreat I showed the council. [0:07:11, 0:07:13]: city of Al Ferrero. [0:07:13, 0:07:16]: Downtown, right across from the city hall, twenty nineteen, absolutely nothing. [0:07:17, 0:07:19]: Twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. [0:07:20, 0:07:21]: Multi story mixed use development. [0:07:22, 0:07:23]: Sugar Hill. [0:07:23, 0:07:28]: Cross the street from there, sugar city hall, absolutely nothing. Twenty nineteen. [0:07:28, 0:07:33]: Twenty twenty four, multi use, mixed use development, multi-story mixed use development. [0:07:34, 0:07:35]: That's what's happening elsewhere. [0:07:36, 0:07:37]: Swarning. [0:07:38, 0:07:39]: Smyrna. [0:07:40, 0:07:40]: Woodstock. [0:07:42, 0:07:43]: Marieto. [0:07:44, 0:07:45]: That's what's happening elsewhere. [0:07:45, 0:07:46]: But it's not happening. [0:07:47, 0:07:48]: South of I twenty. [0:07:48, 0:07:50]: And I explained to your my view of that. [0:07:51, 0:07:53]: Right? Why that's happened. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: Right. And so hopefully [0:07:56, 0:07:58]: I think as a Catholic project [0:07:59, 0:08:02]: The tide would s incentivise the opportunity. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: That has been missed. [0:08:05, 0:08:07]: Everybody believed that money can be made on the interstate. [0:08:08, 0:08:11]: And because we don't have the attraction, nobody's made the investments here. [0:08:12, 0:08:13]: Other than who? [0:08:14, 0:08:15]: City government. [0:08:16, 0:08:18]: Right? As Mr. Alfonso could attest. [0:08:19, 0:08:21]: Our former mayor in that council. [0:08:22, 0:08:23]: Put this building in motion. [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: Put the Ted Strickland in motion. [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: Put the Merrill Mandus in motion. [0:08:29, 0:08:30]: Put the streetscape in motion. [0:08:32, 0:08:35]: All of that being public investment followed by little to no [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: private investment. [0:08:38, 0:08:40]: What if we put a D in the state? [0:08:40, 0:08:41]: Absolutely nothing. [0:08:43, 0:08:43]: What's coming there? [0:08:44, 0:08:45]: Target. [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: Cost go. [0:08:48, 0:08:51]: Right? South Point and McDonald. Tango. [0:08:52, 0:08:53]: In Locus Grove. [0:08:55, 0:08:57]: The only other city that follows behind us in that track. [0:08:58, 0:08:59]: Is Hampton? [0:08:59, 0:09:01]: And that's because [0:09:02, 0:09:04]: They don't know how to take advantage, but not a learning. [0:09:04, 0:09:07]: And you're seeing what's happening around the city of uh city of Hampton. [0:09:08, 0:09:10]: So with that, want to talk a little bit about [0:09:10, 0:09:14]: Вот вин да к не дан і на downtown. [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: And how we can make it happen. [0:09:17, 0:09:18]: So [0:09:18, 0:09:21]: If this is a phrase that the city council wants to continue it. [0:09:22, 0:09:24]: Tog Stockbridge Town Center. [0:09:24, 0:09:33]: We could use that. If you guys want to change it, that's fine. Just something we thought would be cute and nice to look at. But the f picture that you're looking at now is [0:09:33, 0:09:35]: Our vision of Berk Street. [0:09:37, 0:09:39]: Right? That's Wake Street. [0:09:39, 0:09:45]: That cell tower is not going anywhere, but if you look out the windows right there you will see that cell tower sitting behind the Ted's Frickland building. [0:09:46, 0:09:48]: So where you see the little parking area? [0:09:48, 0:09:51]: In the downtown is what's behind you on Book Street. [0:09:52, 0:09:57]: And if you were looking at this, you'd be sitting at there at our either our um [0:09:59, 0:10:00]: Performing Arts Center. [0:10:01, 0:10:12]: Or our Performing Arts Center and Uton Senior Center, you'd be across the street looking at this from that direction. So you'd be looking from east, from west to east, and this what you'd be seeing. [0:10:13, 0:10:17]: Right? A multi story development, followed by a nice courtyard that puts you [0:10:17, 0:10:20]: behind the Ted Strickland onto MLK. [0:10:20, 0:10:25]: And those buildings that exist now, these buildings that you see do not exist, but that's part of what we want to see in the future. [0:10:28, 0:10:29]: This is the master plan for that. [0:10:30, 0:10:32]: So everything in the [0:10:33, 0:10:36]: Bright yellow is new development. [0:10:36, 0:10:38]: Everything you see in in the [0:10:39, 0:10:40]: Low yellow is existing. [0:10:41, 0:10:43]: So an opportunity to build. [0:10:44, 0:10:46]: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. [0:10:47, 0:10:49]: Buildings in the downtown area. [0:10:49, 0:10:53]: To facilitate live, work and play. We have a park. [0:10:53, 0:10:55]: That's less than a quarter mile away. [0:10:55, 0:10:58]: We have ball fields that's actually half a mile away. [0:10:59, 0:11:04]: All within walking distance, fifteen to twenty minute walking distance from this area, if you circle it. [0:11:05, 0:11:09]: Right. In there we envision parking deck, structured parking. [0:11:10, 0:11:13]: Where we have the amphitheater parking, which is surface. [0:11:13, 0:11:15]: Having a structured parking. [0:11:15, 0:11:18]: Taking away some of that existing structured parking. [0:11:19, 0:11:23]: uh surface parking and replacing it with a multi story mixed use development. [0:11:24, 0:11:26]: And subsidizing that parking area there. [0:11:27, 0:11:29]: And having a building directly across from this building. [0:11:30, 0:11:34]: And two buildings subsidized by a parking structure. [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: And then uh obviously [0:11:36, 0:11:39]: Some new buildings downtown on property that we own. [0:11:39, 0:11:43]: And hopefully the market'll take care of the other two properties on Berk Street that we don't own. [0:11:49, 0:11:57]: I think this is the vision most of you guys have seen over the last few months to a year. Is directly across from City Hall, a multi-story building. [0:11:57, 0:12:17]: To provide residential downtown as well as new retail restaurant shopping opportunities along East Atlanta Road. And on the bottom, what you would see on Brook Street, some residential followed by resident by commercial retail on that area. [0:12:20, 0:12:22]: So the meat of the matter. [0:12:22, 0:12:37]: Um and these numbers obviously are estimates by our uh architects and um the consultant that will be presenting to you guys later. Um they've looked at the numbers and think that the numbers are pretty much in order and I'm actually having those numbers actually reviewed again. [0:12:37, 0:12:42]: by another outside entity to make sure that we're in keeping and making sure we get as much as we can. [0:12:42, 0:12:43]: But an overall [0:12:44, 0:12:47]: What you're looking at is those developments. [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: Um adding up to a total [0:12:50, 0:12:52]: Конструкцій кос об'єс [0:12:52, 0:12:55]: Around three hundred and twenty six milyen dollars. [0:12:55, 0:12:58]: And total costs for all of the project that you see there. [0:12:59, 0:13:00]: Right. And [0:13:01, 0:13:07]: what we estimate under the property tax what that would do. So I'm reevaluating those numbers to make sure. [0:13:07, 0:13:10]: That we're actually correct in that area. [0:13:10, 0:13:16]: Um, just on his face everything looks good, but I wanna make sure we'll be a tired consultant on on board that we'll [0:13:16, 0:13:24]: Actually making sure that we c capture all of the information there. There might be some variations based on our negotiations, obviously, with the school board. [0:13:24, 0:13:26]: And with the county. [0:13:27, 0:13:35]: commissioners and I've met with the county staff um within the last two weeks. Um [0:13:36, 0:13:38]: And brought them up to speed on this project. [0:13:38, 0:13:41]: Went over some of the numbers with the finance and the county manager. [0:13:42, 0:13:43]: I meant [0:13:43, 0:13:47]: Um the following week, right before I left on vacation with the school superintendent. [0:13:48, 0:13:51]: Um he is very familiar with Tads, having worked in Florida. [0:13:51, 0:13:54]: Where they're known as TIFF district, tax for increment financing district. [0:13:55, 0:13:57]: And actually factors one of the projects he was working on. [0:13:58, 0:14:02]: prior to him leaving to come here as our superintendent. So he's very aware of the tide. [0:14:02, 0:14:06]: His staff has brought him up to speed from the meetings I had with the previous superintendent. [0:14:06, 0:14:07]: Um [0:14:08, 0:14:22]: And obviously their situation is they want to see what the county do before they do anything. But um we're setting up a meeting to meet with the chair and the county manager and then from there get on the agenda with the county board. [0:14:23, 0:14:32]: to see what they will be doing in terms of their participation in our TAD. The other pages of the document just gives you a close up shot um of what [0:14:32, 0:14:39]: those buildings would look like from a story s from a square footed standpoint and usage. [0:14:40, 0:14:42]: So you see commercial residential parking. [0:14:43, 0:14:44]: Um in building one. [0:14:45, 0:14:47]: Building two residential. [0:14:47, 0:14:49]: And commercial? [0:14:49, 0:14:50]: With some parking? [0:14:52, 0:14:58]: Number three would be residential commercial parking services. [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: Number four. [0:15:01, 0:15:03]: Um parking and commercial. [0:15:05, 0:15:12]: And then downtown on the old historic side, Burke Street, having um mixed commercial residential. [0:15:20, 0:15:24]: And then it talks about a little bit about the implementation. [0:15:24, 0:15:29]: of you know TAD special post for district tax, uh municipal bond financing. [0:15:30, 0:15:37]: gives you an overview of those different criteria on which to use utilize. And uh I'll take any questions you may have. [0:15:40, 0:15:43]: Councillor, any questions off from this presentation? [0:15:44, 0:16:04]: Mr. Alexander, you got something on your mind? Yes, I'm I'm excited about it. It seems like uh as you have indicated that it's long overdue. You know, I just want to make sure we're we're as going down this path. We want to make sure that we're significant, we're we're taking these significant steps and that uh the project is going to be. [0:16:04, 0:16:24]: Laid out in a timely basis to generate the type of downtown that we desire and that we want to set the pace for here in the city of Stockbridge. We don't want a downtown, we want the downtown. So I think this project will generate that for us. [0:16:24, 0:16:44]: uh making sure and we making sure that we're taking uh the appropriate steps and moving it down the tracks, getting with the county, getting with the school board, time is of the essence. Uh, you know, so certainly uh making those things happen uh in a timely fashion is something that I would like to see. [0:16:44, 0:16:52]: and uh and on a an aggressive timetable where we see uh dirt moving in the near term. [0:16:54, 0:16:57]: Any other council members, questions, concerns, thoughts? [0:16:58, 0:17:01]: Ms. Barber Gloyd, please. I do. Thank you, Mr. Gardner. [0:17:02, 0:17:07]: I'm excited about the redevelopment and revitalization of our downtown. [0:17:08, 0:17:15]: I wanna say that first. Um and I like what I've seen in the schematics. [0:17:16, 0:17:25]: My concern is the process. I don't want us to rush. I want us to take our time, do it right. [0:17:26, 0:17:28]: А я в сам концерн з баба до процес. [0:17:30, 0:17:30]: That's all. [0:17:31, 0:17:35]: My concern is there currently is no policy. [0:17:36, 0:17:42]: There is no policy on how the city dispose of its real estate properties. [0:17:42, 0:17:44]: So I [0:17:44, 0:17:45]: Don't know. [0:17:46, 0:17:48]: What steps where we are at this point? [0:17:49, 0:17:52]: Are you looking for us to make a decision today? [0:17:53, 0:17:54]: This is just presentation. [0:17:55, 0:17:56]: Thank you, sir. [0:17:57, 0:18:00]: Yes, and and from from the disposition of property. [0:18:01, 0:18:01]: You know. [0:18:02, 0:18:08]: I mentioned to you to the city council when I first got here and and we did put a bid out under the name of the city. [0:18:09, 0:18:09]: Um [0:18:10, 0:18:26]: back in uh I think twenty twenty three and we got one non responsive bid back on that process. And I said, Hey, let's let's do this through the Urban Redevelopment Agency because that allows us, it gives us the flexibility to go talk. [0:18:26, 0:18:27]: to developers. [0:18:27, 0:18:28]: Um [0:18:29, 0:18:49]: And bring see who would be willing to take this project on after having those discussions. And and we garnered some interests in some in terms of some of the entities I spoke to. Um one entity in in particular stayed through the process of, you know, telling us they're interested. Um [0:18:49, 0:19:09]: Um, working to put a design together on our properties. Um, but there's been no disposition yet of any of this of these properties, other than they're still owned by. Um, and that process obviously will we will follow the state requirements as guided because yes, you're right, you know, your urban redevelopment of [0:19:09, 0:19:28]: authorities, your commun your development authorities in your DDA, they don't unless you decide to adopt some policy. They typically follow the state requirements, which means because they're economically driven and the reason why they were formed in the first place was so that they don't have to wrangle under the requirements of city [0:19:29, 0:19:30]: Policies. [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: Right? We would have never got Kier. [0:19:33, 0:19:34]: In this state. [0:19:35, 0:19:36]: Had we had [0:19:37, 0:19:48]: the state economic development and the local DDA or the local CDA had to bid that process out. Alabama or South Carolina would have stole that project because they would have known who was coming. [0:19:49, 0:19:51]: And that's the reason why. [0:19:51, 0:20:00]: They formed those entities back in the nineteen fifties. Some of them urban redevelopment law has been in place since nineteen fifty two or nineteen fifty four in the state of Georgia. [0:20:00, 0:20:01]: Right. [0:20:01, 0:20:09]: Um, so those entities were formed a long time ago. You can either be constitutional or you could be legislative. Those are the two types that you're allowed to have in the state. [0:20:10, 0:20:13]: Um so someone some does constitution, some does legislative. [0:20:14, 0:20:15]: Um depending on when they formed. [0:20:16, 0:20:17]: But inerrantly [0:20:18, 0:20:29]: you form them because you don't want them to be at a competitive disadvantage man doing development projects. And so having policies that either slow that down, can have a project, say [0:20:29, 0:20:45]: Thank you very much, Dogbridge, but I'm gonna go to Forest Park because Forest Park has a timeline that meets my money requirements. And so have fun. I don't wanna wrangle with a 40-day and a 20-day review. I could go to Forest Park, use their DDA and have the project done over there. [0:20:46, 0:20:49]: And that's the reason why that process is in place. [0:20:49, 0:20:55]: Um but yes, uh our goal is to follow the requirements as required. [0:20:55, 0:20:57]: with the disposition whenever that time comes. [0:20:58, 0:20:59]: This deal might not get there. [0:21:00, 0:21:11]: Right. Um but inerrantly when we get to that point we'll follow as required whatever that's under the state requirements to make it happen, unless this board decides to adopt some other policy. [0:21:11, 0:21:24]: Excuse me, Mr. Gardner. I'm sorry. Mayor Ford. Go right, please. Okay. Um, so I know before we get to the point of involving the boards, the DDA, CDA, URA. [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: The city. [0:21:27, 0:21:29]: There are certain things the city should do. [0:21:30, 0:21:32]: Mm-hmm. You mentioned that you put out a beard. Mm-hmm. [0:21:34, 0:21:50]: those or that proposal that was submitted, it never came to the governing body for us to review it. So this is why I say we need a policy. A policy that will describe um the level of involvement [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: That each [0:21:52, 0:21:55]: level of government is involved and at what point. [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: Of course. [0:21:58, 0:22:00]: with the municipal government [0:22:00, 0:22:02]: The point where you put out the bid. [0:22:03, 0:22:03]: Um [0:22:05, 0:22:19]: If you advertised it in the legal Oregon for the county Hearing Herald, I did submit an ORR and there was no results that any of these projects had been advertised. That is in the law. [0:22:20, 0:22:23]: But then I know on the municipal side. [0:22:24, 0:22:25]: And by the way. [0:22:25, 0:22:28]: In your notebooks for everybody. [0:22:28, 0:22:29]: Um [0:22:29, 0:22:47]: You have copies. Copies of the state codes because this is what I wanted to discuss at the last meeting so that we're all on the same page. It includes the state codes of what the municipal municipal level is supposed to do. [0:22:47, 0:22:51]: And of course I provided copies of the urban redevelopment. [0:22:52, 0:22:54]: Because I know it gives a broad [0:22:54, 0:22:58]: leverage to municipalities on how we go about [0:23:00, 0:23:02]: Disposing of real estate properties. [0:23:04, 0:23:05]: A support. [0:23:05, 0:23:08]: our plans and where we are. [0:23:08, 0:23:10]: Where we're trying to go. [0:23:10, 0:23:13]: My problem is I'm a procurement professional. [0:23:14, 0:23:19]: So this is I know this process. The fact that the city does not have a policy. [0:23:20, 0:23:23]: It does not have a policy, so I don't know. [0:23:25, 0:23:26]: We are not in agreement. [0:23:27, 0:23:30]: as to what steps, the level of involvement, [0:23:31, 0:23:33]: I believe that each of the boards [0:23:34, 0:23:35]: Що [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: Um [0:23:36, 0:23:38]: Some representation. [0:23:38, 0:23:39]: At the table. [0:23:40, 0:23:45]: when those developers come with their proposals so that we can have input. [0:23:45, 0:23:49]: Evaluation so it's not just you, Mr. Gardner. [0:23:49, 0:23:53]: choosing which developer to um [0:23:53, 0:23:56]: bring to the council. Not saying that that's the case. [0:23:56, 0:23:57]: I'm just [0:23:57, 0:23:58]: Going forward. [0:23:59, 0:24:00]: I want to make sure [0:24:00, 0:24:02]: That there is a policy. [0:24:03, 0:24:07]: In place so that everybody is on the same page. [0:24:07, 0:24:12]: I want there to be an opportunity for anyone. [0:24:12, 0:24:16]: Who wants to do business with our city? Stock bridge is open for business. [0:24:17, 0:24:18]: We are ready. [0:24:19, 0:24:19]: To do them. [0:24:20, 0:24:21]: The work. [0:24:21, 0:24:22]: We're ready. [0:24:22, 0:24:25]: То ревитализар. [0:24:26, 0:24:29]: The residents have been waiting long enough. [0:24:29, 0:24:31]: I want us to get it right. [0:24:31, 0:24:34]: I don't there's no need to rush it. [0:24:35, 0:24:38]: I know we have timelines, but it's important [0:24:38, 0:24:40]: For the council. [0:24:40, 0:24:41]: To understand [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: Дес процес. [0:24:43, 0:24:44]: The policies [0:24:44, 0:24:45]: going forward. [0:24:46, 0:24:47]: That's all. [0:24:47, 0:24:48]: Yes, ma'am. [0:24:48, 0:24:53]: Yes, ma'am, thank you. And and you know, I I think everybody here knows I mean [0:24:55, 0:25:00]: You're a procurement professional. I am also uh urban development [0:25:00, 0:25:02]: Professional and has been for over thirty years. [0:25:03, 0:25:06]: I'm also nationally and internationally certified in my field. [0:25:06, 0:25:14]: Right. Um, if you wanna look at what I've done, you go to the city of Griffin. Right? When I got there, there were burglar bars on storefronts. [0:25:16, 0:25:20]: Mr. Gardner, if I may just say [0:25:21, 0:25:25]: Could he're not saying could he finish the statement? I don't know if he's not a [0:25:26, 0:25:33]: Oh no, for the same. I underst yeah. Understood and and so members of the governing body, we're the decision makers. And I get it. [0:25:33, 0:25:36]: Yes. Your expertise is why you're here. Yes. [0:25:38, 0:25:57]: That's how. Finish your statement, Mr. Gardner, if you need to finish it. I'm done. Um so yeah, so I I I want everybody to know that, you know, we we wanna move, but yes, we're gonna move j judiciously. We're gonna move in a way that everybody understands where we're going and how we're going now. [0:25:57, 0:26:00]: Where we where this road starts and where this road ends, right? [0:26:01, 0:26:03]: Um and hopefully at the end [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: We sідis culminate we [0:26:06, 0:26:11]: Hey, not only that this council agrees on this is how this is where we want, you know, that that vision, right? [0:26:12, 0:26:16]: Батвіо брил алпанс, пизнетами с хан. [0:26:17, 0:26:19]: We need three entities. [0:26:20, 0:26:21]: Outside of us. [0:26:22, 0:26:23]: Right. [0:26:23, 0:26:25]: We need the Henry County school board. [0:26:26, 0:26:28]: Ви ніді Хенри Конті борд комісір. [0:26:29, 0:26:30]: And we need a partner. [0:26:31, 0:26:35]: Somebody is gonna come in and do that job, to do that do that construction. [0:26:35, 0:26:38]: And recognize that whoever that entity is [0:26:38, 0:26:39]: Yeah, they're gonna take a risk. [0:26:40, 0:26:47]: Right? Because please, as I mentioned to you guys, where has this been done south of I twenty? [0:26:48, 0:26:49]: Clayton County. [0:26:50, 0:26:51]: Hamley County. [0:26:52, 0:26:53]: Well that's currently [0:26:53, 0:26:59]: Well, Griffin technically had it in place because they were developed layers ago in a concept to that effect. [0:26:59, 0:27:01]: But Rockdale County. [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: Newton. [0:27:03, 0:27:06]: Outside of Peachtree City, and we all know why. [0:27:07, 0:27:08]: Peace Tree City. [0:27:08, 0:27:08]: All right. [0:27:09, 0:27:17]: You got all the Delta Pilots down there, stewardesses that live down there, and they've got disposable incomes of over$150,000 household income. [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: So money gonna travel. [0:27:20, 0:27:23]: And our median income is somewhere around eighty. [0:27:25, 0:27:25]: Right. [0:27:26, 0:27:26]: But [0:27:27, 0:27:30]: Remember that throughout this period that all of us have lived here. [0:27:32, 0:27:37]: We have not been able to enjoy what we see in our sister ho sister cities in their downtown. [0:27:38, 0:27:43]: And I know this council is gonna go. So we're long as we bring the partners along, we're gonna bring them along the right way. [0:27:44, 0:27:48]: Um, as I mentioned to you guys at the last city council meeting, Frederick don't look good in jumpsuit. [0:27:49, 0:27:53]: I ain't six foot five, three hundred and fifty pounds of fight, so I ain't going to jail. [0:27:55, 0:28:00]: All right. Um I wanna make sure this get done correct. Uh and the way [0:28:01, 0:28:04]: That we've done it before. And I know we're running short on time, so let me [0:28:04, 0:28:07]: Let us get to talking to a group that has shown some interest. [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: And doing this project in our downtown. [0:28:11, 0:28:31]: Um they have a presentation to go through. They're gonna look at the downtown area as holistic. So it's gonna be three two to three parts that they're gonna look at, present to you guys, and then ask as much questions as you want of these guys. Take that back. No one's asking anybody. We're not selling anything today. This is you know. [0:28:31, 0:28:40]: Not giving anything away today. This is them coming and telling you, we're interested in doing a project in your city and this is that project we're interested in. We're interested in being that part. [0:28:42, 0:28:44]: If you want to work with us, so [0:28:44, 0:28:45]: I turned over. [0:28:45, 0:29:00]: Okay and that that's not not a executive session issue. That's the they're gonna do the presentation. We'll go in the executive session. I have to go in the executive session for that. Okay. So I need a motion to go in secondary session for this further discussion. Mayor Ford, I'd like to m move first to go into executive session for a person [0:29:00, 0:29:03]: Real estate matter. Real estate matter, that's correct. Yes. Sir second emotion. [0:29:04, 0:29:06]: Mr. Barba uh Mr. Berry second it. [0:29:07, 0:29:09]: Mr. Berry Second I'm sorry, sir. [0:29:14, 0:29:17]: That's city. This is the board. It's U R A. [0:29:18, 0:29:22]: From Miss Ms uh Barber to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. [0:29:23, 0:29:25]: Okay, we're going to say we're back people. [0:30:02, 0:30:03]: It uh [0:30:05, 0:30:09]: Board, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. [0:30:10, 0:30:10]: So moved. [0:30:10, 0:30:12]: Ms. Barmer, is there a second? [0:30:14, 0:30:15]: Do I have a second, gentlemen? [0:30:16, 0:30:17]: Do I have a second? [0:30:18, 0:30:20]: Okay, Mr. Berry's second there. On fair please indicate. [0:30:21, 0:30:32]: All right. And now I need a motion to end w actually and uh we have nothing to report from our URA meeting at this time to the public. So I now need a motion to end our URA meeting, please. [0:30:33, 0:30:43]: Ms. Barber to Mr. Thomas. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you. Now the decision on that point. Our URA meeting is now adjourned. [0:30:44, 0:30:47]: Ladies and gentlemen, be uh be patient with us as we make an adjustment here to uh
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    --- title: Work Session date: 2024-09-24 source: 2024-09-24_Work_Session.wav --- [0:02:33, 0:02:36]: All right, council. [0:02:37, 0:02:38]: I have six seventeen. [0:02:40, 0:02:42]: I'd like to call our council work session to order. [0:02:44, 0:02:47]: for the Tuesday, September twenty fourth. [0:02:48, 0:02:50]: Invocation, uh [0:02:50, 0:02:52]: Mayor Pro Temberry, please. [0:02:53, 0:02:53]: Yeah, this one. [0:02:56, 0:02:57]: Please stand if you can. [0:03:01, 0:03:21]: Let us pray. Eternal God, our Father, we thank you tonight for allowing us to come together again to meet, to discuss the business of the city of Stockbridge and its constituents. Bless us, Lord God, and lead us, Lord God, to make the best decisions that we can make. That God that you would govern us and give us, Lord God, the peace of God which surpasses all understanding. And this will be. [0:03:21, 0:03:38]: We ask in the blessed name of your Son Jesus Christ we pray. Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance, pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, in the miserable liberty and justice. [0:03:39, 0:03:40]: Madam Clerk, Roll Call, please. [0:03:44, 0:03:45]: Present. [0:03:46, 0:03:55]: Present. Councilmember Alexander. Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:03:55, 0:04:12]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um Council, I'm gonna need the um amendment to the the agenda for a executive session to occur before we get into our actual presentation for real estate uh legal and personnel. [0:04:13, 0:04:19]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion to go into executive session for personnel, litigation, and real estate matters. [0:04:20, 0:04:24]: And it it would be after uh after our public comments, before our presentation. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: In real estate, right. [0:04:28, 0:04:33]: Is there a second to a motion? Second second. I've mr b I've got Mr. Berry here. Okay, all favor, please indicate. [0:04:34, 0:04:39]: Okay. Now on that note, I would like to have the adoption to the rest of the [0:04:39, 0:04:41]: A rest of the agenda, please. [0:04:41, 0:04:43]: So move. Is there a second? [0:04:44, 0:04:44]: A second. [0:04:45, 0:05:05]: Okay, Miss and Miss uh from Mr. Alexander to Miss Barber. I'll fair please indicate. All right, so what you have before you the review of the minutes, and this is a review, we'll actually approve these minutes at our next meeting next month. Review of the September 9th council meeting minutes, August 23rd, 22nd, and 21st, the budget retreat minutes, August 23th. [0:05:04, 0:05:21]: twenty seventh the council work session and August also August twelfth for the council meeting itself. And so if you have any comments or additions or subtractions, please get with the the clerk to do that prior to our next meeting when we approve this. Madam Clerk, we have any public comments at all? [0:05:22, 0:05:26]: Okay, on that note then now I need a motion to go into executive session, please. [0:05:26, 0:05:26]: Don't look. [0:05:27, 0:05:28]: Okay, that is for [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: Real estate personnel. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: Uh huh. [0:05:31, 0:05:36]: I move to go into executive session for personnel, litigation and real estate matters. [0:05:36, 0:05:40]: Thank you very much. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Barrett second all favor, please indicate. [0:05:40, 0:05:43]: Okay, we'll go into the degree station, ladies and gentlemen. We'll be back shortly. [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: Okay, good. [0:06:00, 0:06:03]: All right, council, I need to uh let's reconvene our [0:06:04, 0:06:05]: Council work session. [0:06:07, 0:06:09]: Um and yes, I need them. Yeah. [0:06:09, 0:06:18]: Need to reconvene it. Uh but uh what before I do that though, obviously we need to uh uh need a motion to end our second session, please. Oh [0:06:18, 0:06:31]: From m uh m mr m mr Thomas and Mr Berry, all in favor, please indicate. Well thank you very much. All right. On that note we have nothing to report from that executive session at this point for the public, so I need a motion to reconvene our [0:06:31, 0:06:48]: uh city work session please. So Mr. Alexander, second. Mr. Barring, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Now we'll continue on and what we have next would be our presentation. Park system plan presentation. Mr. Aaron, please, you're up, sir. [0:06:49, 0:06:52]: And it says here Mr. Peyton Peterson as well with T S W if he's here. [0:07:01, 0:07:08]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We have uh T S W here tonight to present the schematic designs for the City of Stockbridge Parks master plan. [0:07:10, 0:07:11]: All right, thank you. [0:07:21, 0:07:41]: Good evening. I'm Peyton Peterson. This is Anna Soji. Uh we're both with TSW Landscape Architecture. Tonight, as Mr. Decius said, we'll be presenting the um three parks: Gardner, Clark, and Memorial, schematic design concepts, which is the last phase of work with the master. Um [0:07:41, 0:07:43]: um plan process that we've been working on. [0:07:45, 0:07:51]: And feel free during this presentation to ask any questions um while we're presenting. [0:07:52, 0:08:12]: This here is an overview of the three park locations. As you all are very familiar with, Clark, Gardner, and Memorial Parks. Clark and Gardner Park are on the north side of the downtown district. Memorial Park is on the south side. And you can see the existing [0:08:12, 0:08:21]: Reeves Creek Trail and MLK Heritage Trail that is running through some of these parks and connecting these three parks. [0:08:23, 0:08:28]: I'm gonna turn it over to Anna, who's gonna talk briefly about some community themes that you'll see throughout the parks. [0:08:32, 0:08:42]: Hello. Um like Peyton said, I want to start by talking about some of the community themes that came up um as we were beginning our research and design phase for the project. [0:08:43, 0:08:43]: Um [0:08:44, 0:09:02]: We started with this. Um, we want to start with this because we don't want these parks to feel like any park. We want them to feel uniquely Stockbridge and we want them to be a place of discovery, um, a place that weaves in the story of the place. Um, and so with that, we came up with four. [0:09:02, 0:09:04]: Um themes that are shown up here. [0:09:05, 0:09:06]: Um on the slide. [0:09:06, 0:09:12]: Um, and all of them apply to one or more of the three parks that we're talking about. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: So first we have railroad heritage. [0:09:15, 0:09:17]: Which of course is what [0:09:17, 0:09:20]: led to the early growth of Stockbridge as a community. [0:09:20, 0:09:40]: Um, this applies to all three parks because um all three parks are actually adjacent to the railroad. Um, so that would be a theme that kind of carries through um all three parks. Um secondly, we have the Tie Street neighborhood history. Um, so that includes both the people, um, like Martin Luther King Sr., who um originate. [0:09:40, 0:09:49]: From the Tye Street neighborhood, as well as the special places like the Floyd Street Baptist Church, Greenfront Cafe, and the historic Rosenwald School. [0:09:50, 0:09:59]: Um thirdly we have the upper Akmolji River basin, as well as the creeks that feed into that system, um, which is home to many unique um [0:09:59, 0:10:07]: aquatic species. And then finally we have um the Piedmont granite outcrops, which is a unique ecosystem to the region. [0:10:07, 0:10:15]: Um and of course is the the ecosystem of Panola Mountain um and also a historic industry of Stockbridge. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: I'm gonna turn it back to paint. Mm-hmm. [0:10:21, 0:10:21]: Thank you, Anna. [0:10:23, 0:10:43]: All right, the first park we're gonna be looking at is Clark Park. Um, the four vignettes that you see up on the screen, uh I'm not gonna talk much about these, but they're looking at programming, pedestrian circulation, view sheds, and parking of the proposed plan. Uh one of the major elements of Clark Park that we're looking to [0:10:43, 0:11:03]: um do is currently the northern side of Clark Park is heavily programmed with the southern side having less programming. There's a dog park on the south side, but for the most part most of the activity is on the northern side of the creek. So we're trying to spread that programming uh throughout the park. So additional [0:11:03, 0:11:23]: Distribution of programming on the south, bringing it on the south side as well, bringing it closer into downtown and providing a connection into downtown. With the pedestrian circulation, one of the things that we are trying to do is extend that MLK trail. So as it comes from downtown, [0:11:23, 0:11:43]: Town, it's connecting actually to this park, and it's serving as the central spine of this park with activities pulling off of it. And then from a parking standpoint, you have the existing parking at the conference center. We're looking at reconfiguring the park. [0:11:43, 0:11:59]: Parking lot on the northern side of the park for functionality purposes, but we're also looking at consolidating drive cuts on the south side along Davis Road. [0:12:00, 0:12:20]: reorient a new reconfigured parking lot, flex event space that can be open on a daily basis, but also be shut down for events. You'll see that here in a second. One thing to note, from a parking count standpoint, we're not losing any parking with this proposed plan. [0:12:23, 0:12:43]: Um, this is the master plan, and we'll dive into each section here. Uh zoom in in a second. But from a community themes, we're looking at the downtown history, railroad, heritage, MLK, senior legacy, and then Brush Creek, Upper Okmahoge River Basin. Um, for this part. [0:12:43, 0:13:03]: Park, the northern side, as you can see in this blow-up, um, as I mentioned earlier, there's a lot of existing programming on the northern side of the park. There's an the existing parking lot labeled B here that we're reconfiguring. Um, there's an existing playground labeled H that we're expanding upon. And um [0:13:02, 0:13:22]: There's an existing restroom building that we're proposing removing and providing a new restroom building in plaza area labeled EF that can serve as community gathering space and sort of a welcoming node to this park. Going back to sort of the expanded upon expensive [0:13:22, 0:13:42]: existing playground. We have on the right side here where my cursor is, what is a gonna what we're proposing as a railroad themed playground. We have some perspectives of that in a second, but we heard from the community that pavilion space [0:13:42, 0:14:02]: Were highly desired from rentability purposes. If a family wants to have a family reunion or birthday party, smaller and clustered pavilions was preferred over the single large pavilion that's currently out there to date. So on a day-to-day basis, these shade structures are serving as [0:14:02, 0:14:22]: Um areas where small um keep families can gather or kids can take rest in the shade, but they're clustered again so that if someone wants to rent out one or multiple, uh they can for an event. And each uh shade structure has a good vantage point of [0:14:22, 0:14:42]: Of the playground. And then lastly, on the northern portion of uh Clark Park, we heard from the community that there was a desire for a community garden. Um, and that is just south of the reconfigured parking lot labeled C with its own separate um. [0:14:42, 0:14:47]: Restroom and storage facility and potting shed labeled D. [0:14:50, 0:15:10]: Moving to the south side of the park here, um you can see the central spine, which is labeled K. And again, that extends up to the north side of the plant as well. But uh, this is the extension of the MLK trail, and the vision is to eventually uh or to connect this into downtown so that you have a uh [0:15:10, 0:15:30]: Direct connection path into your downtown district. As you come down from downtown along the MLK Trail, the dog park is still in, it's a little bit more uphill to get it out of the flood zone, but it's in that sort of bend of Davis Road and the south. [0:15:30, 0:15:50]: Southwestern portion of the site. We have a flex lawn space, open lawn space with shade structures and a restroom building that's labeled D, E, and F. And then to the right of the new restroom building, we have what is the Flex parking event space spillover. [0:15:50, 0:16:10]: Over which is labeled H. So again, on a day-to-day basis, that can be an open parking lot to serve the daily needs. But it poses the opportunity that you can shut that connection parking lot down at Parkwood. You would still have full access to the conference center parking lot, but you could shut the portion down. [0:16:10, 0:16:26]: that is labeled H for food additional food truck area or tent pop-ups, farmers markets and whatnot. So to spread out that programming because I know that the food trucks get very popular in that upper parking lot. [0:16:28, 0:16:40]: Um we also have the Brush Creek Trail, which is labeled A, that hopefully one day will extend to the neighborhood to the west. [0:16:41, 0:17:01]: Okay. Um the perspectives tell the story a little bit better than the plan view. So this here is looking at an aerial. Um you're on the south side of the park, looking at the MLK trail there, serving as the central spine through the space. Um you can see how it extends across Brush Creek to the northern portion of the [0:17:01, 0:17:21]: site. In the foreground here we have the flex parking lot with the showing how it can be set up for food trucks and that smaller bubble there. We have a tennis court proposed in this one of the things that came out of [0:17:21, 0:17:41]: Public engagement sessions during the mass and planning phase was to have some active recreation in this park. So we do have a tennis court here. Um you can see the flex lawn in the middle there labeled D with um open-air pavilions, again, rentable pavilions um flanking it, and then [0:17:41, 0:17:57]: in the new restroom building on the other side of the lawn. I do want to mention that you'll see brick sort of paving material at major nodes throughout the park. And that materiality is tying back into your downtown architecture. [0:18:00, 0:18:20]: This perspective here is uh looking as if you're on Brush Creek Trail, you'd be coming from the west, um, and it's the intersection of the MLK Senior Trail and Brush Creek Trail. I think this is um um from a vantage point uh you can see how the brick here identifies on the ground plane as [0:18:20, 0:18:40]: A node on a decision-making point. So you could go to the right there and go to downtown, or you can go to the left to the northern portion of the park. We have a little bit more ground-level views of the open-air shade structures and restroom pavilion. And then [0:18:40, 0:19:00]: And uh one of the major concerns that we heard from you all about Brush Creek was that there are snake issues. So we wanted to provide a uh fence barrier to keep people out of the creek area. Um, but we're also proposing uh restoration of that creek um creek bed. [0:19:03, 0:19:23]: This here is looking at the main entrance to on the northern side of Clark Park. You can see the restroom building. All the restroom buildings have the same footprint, so it's a prototype that can be applied throughout all the parks. There's an open air. [0:19:23, 0:19:43]: Air passageway through the middle, and the restrooms actually flank that central sort of paseo there. What that provides us is the opportunity to do some sort of community art and uh storytelling on that blank, what would otherwise be a blank wall. So labeled B. [0:19:43, 0:19:53]: here, um tying again back to the railroad three theme, we would have some sort of mural or collage uh telling the story of Stockbridge's railroad history. [0:19:55, 0:20:15]: You can see here in front of that restroom building we have the patio space that can serve as spillover area for the food truck festivals, for outdoor cafe tables and chairs. And then off behind the [0:20:15, 0:20:18]: The restroom building is the expanded playground space. [0:20:21, 0:20:41]: This here is back on the south side, just the lower eye-level view of the main entrance to the park along MLK Trail. We have a gateway signage serving as a threshold into the park. To the left is the dog park, where there would be multiple entrances off this main spot. [0:20:41, 0:20:58]: And then in the foreground you can see we're using landscaping and a low seat wall to serve as a edge restraint or barrier between the open flex lawn area and the new parking lot. [0:21:02, 0:21:22]: Um going back to Northside, this is the expanded upon playground area. I mentioned uh we are looking at doing railroad uh theme for this playground. This uh is not over the top like Disney World, but we are looking at having some sort of uh ties back to the the local history of Stockbridge. [0:21:22, 0:21:42]: From a play element standpoint, you can see the clusters of open shade structures there that are fronting the playground, also fronting for this one in the bottom right corner, the open lawn space between the playground and the creek. So you can see how someone could. [0:21:42, 0:21:47]: [1310.7, 1330.7]: Moving on to Memorial Park. Currently, Memorial Park is on the west side of the creek there. This plan is looking at not only that side, but the eastern side of the creek, which is currently the transfer. [0:22:10, 0:22:30]: First station property. So what you'll see with that side of the park would have to be acquired. Um, but uh from a programming standpoint, uh as you all know, currently off Wilson Street, you immediately enter a parking lot and the park is [0:22:30, 0:22:43]: south of that parking lot. We're trying to bring the park to the community a little bit better. Um and by doing that, we're trying to expand programming to Wilson Street. And [0:22:45, 0:23:05]: Activate that Wilson Street frontage. From a pedestrian circulation, we have a primary pathway flanking the programming here, running in a north-south orientation and connecting to the Reeves Creek Trail, as well as connecting over to the new site, which is east of uh the creek. From a parking count standpoint. [0:23:05, 0:23:25]: point, uh, we're actually getting a significant number of additional parking with this plan. Uh we have a total of 106. Currently you guys have 48. We're getting 168. So 120 additional parking stalls. 76 of those would be new spaces on the east side. So even if the east side did not happen immediately. [0:23:25, 0:23:29]: you still are getting a surplus of parking with this new design. [0:23:31, 0:23:51]: Um, this is the overall plan. We'll dive into west and east here in a second. Uh, you can see existing to date, you have the existing trail system that is running through the woods down here on the south side and the existing Reeves Creek Trail. Um, those are to remain. The lawn space here in the middle. [0:23:51, 0:24:11]: Middle, which currently has a basketball court on it. Basketball court is getting relocated closer to Wilson Street to again activate that frontage and then bring the neighborhood into the park and the park to the neighborhood. But the lawn space would be a flex lawn, but it is sized to handle a soccer field or a football field if need be. [0:24:11, 0:24:21]: but we're thinking on a day-to-day basis it would just be Flex Lawn. There's a series of pavilions that flank that lawn and a restroom building. [0:24:22, 0:24:42]: And you can see sort of on the east side we're proposing a um splash pad and restroom building separate um from the west. So diving into the west plan here, um the parking lot is getting oriented more in a north-south fashion, again to allow us to bring programming up to Wilson Street. So [0:24:42, 0:25:02]: So when you first enter off Wilson Street, there's an entrance plaza and a gateway lawn space, small area for picnics, and just to add some greenery along the Wilson Street edge. We have the relocated basketball court seating area with shade structures. [0:25:02, 0:25:15]: There's the existing playground area which is labeled G, and we're expanding upon it. And the existing pavilion, which is just to the left of label H is to remain. [0:25:17, 0:25:33]: On the east side uh Memorial Park, this is the um new uh parking lot area and a new um regional sort of splash pad area with restroom building. And we'll dive into those in a second. [0:25:35, 0:25:55]: Uh this perspective here is looking at the uh relocated basketball court. Again, providing shade structures uh for shade seating that's serving as sort of a edge restraint so that ball the balls aren't going out into the parking lot. We're far enough from the parking lot that that shouldn't be an issue, um, but provides [0:25:55, 0:26:15]: Some extra seating there. The mural you're seeing on the actual court itself. Obviously, we would like to work with a local artist to come up with a design for that, but we think that this is a good opportunity to bring some color into the space on the basketball court itself and brand the court with the Stockbridge logo. [0:26:15, 0:26:35]: at uh the center there off in the distance. Um you can see the existing trail. That is an existing trail that kind of goes up the hillside there on the right. But then we have the existed existing expanded upon playground labeled C in the restroom building labeled D off in the background. One thing [0:26:35, 0:26:53]: to note along this edge of the parking lot between the main um promenade walk, pedestrian walkway, uh in the programming is parallel parking spots, which could be also serve as uh festival pop-ups or food trucks if you guys ever decide to have something hosted at Memorial Park. [0:26:56, 0:27:16]: Um this is looking at the uh restroom building expanded upon playground area. Um really very similar to what you saw in Clark Park. We're just pr trying to provide a restroom building immediately to the playground space so that children and families don't have to go too far uh to get to the restroom. [0:27:16, 0:27:36]: And then also provide some sort of outdoor um cafe tables and chairs associated with that structure in case a family wants to bring lunch or something and spend the entire day at the park. For this uh specific restroom building, uh we were looking at the Tie Street neighborhood theme as sort of [0:27:36, 0:27:41]: sort of the historic mural um and storytelling that could happen on the restroom wall. [0:27:43, 0:27:46]: I'm gonna turn it over to Anna who's gonna talk a little bit about the uh splash pad. [0:27:49, 0:28:00]: Okay. So we are now on the other side of the creek, um, the east side of the the property. Um, as Peyton said, so we're looking at the splash pad. [0:28:00, 0:28:04]: And um this is kind of an aerial view showing um [0:28:05, 0:28:06]: The [0:28:06, 0:28:07]: The boardwalk. [0:28:07, 0:28:09]: Um crossing the creek from the east side. [0:28:10, 0:28:10]: Um [0:28:11, 0:28:31]: We have the parking lot, um, expanded parking lot area here and a splash pad, um, as well as restroom building to relate to the splash pad so that, you know, again, people who are using the splash pad don't have to travel very far um to to use the restroom. Um this restroom building is um would be a communal or [0:28:30, 0:28:45]: I'm sorry, these would be single call restrooms, six single-sall uh restrooms in this building. And um similarly to the other restroom buildings, we have um a community art wall on this one with this um [0:28:45, 0:28:51]: Positioning of of the splash pad and the restroom building being uh right by the brush creek. [0:28:51, 0:28:55]: Or I'm sorry, Reeves Creek. Um our theme here is the Reeves Creek and the [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: Akmalje river basin. [0:28:57, 0:28:58]: Um [0:28:59, 0:29:06]: We also have that same theme for the splash pad, uh, where we're celebrating kind of a riparian woodland theme. Um [0:29:08, 0:29:17]: And the splash pad would be approximately four thousand square feet, which would accommodate up to four hundred children um at capacity. [0:29:17, 0:29:23]: Um and we can see a little bit more detail of the splash pad in these images. Um [0:29:24, 0:29:44]: As you can see, we have some fun, artful um kind of structures that both serve as shade as well as components of the splash pad that kind of mimic the uh environment of that riparian woodland. We also have um splash pad structures that celebrate some of the unique aquatic features. [0:29:44, 0:30:04]: That would be found in that environment. We have landscaping as well as artificial turf mounds at the edges of the splash pad to provide both kind of an edge for the space between the parking lot and the actual play area, as well as areas for seat. [0:30:04, 0:30:16]: seating and for parents to stand and sit and watch their children as they play. And you can see a little bit of the pavilion clustering that would happen at the edge of the splash pad as well. [0:30:20, 0:30:40]: Thanks, Hanna. And uh just a note also on the restroom building here at the splash pad, one of the reasons that we were looking at single stalls for this guy would be so that they could also serve as changing rooms for the splash pad. Uh we're thinking that the other restrooms that are this is the same footprint as the other restrooms, but the other restrooms [0:30:40, 0:30:42]: Firms would be more communal style. [0:30:43, 0:30:50]: I'm sorry to interrupt you. I I got a question about that um splash pad. Maybe I'm out of midst it. Just a curiosity thing. Where's the water coming from? [0:30:51, 0:31:11]: Yeah, so this would have to be um a water line that's brought in um from probably it would probably be an extension from the other side of the park or come off of um the road that is just north of here. Um we haven't gotten quite into the details of [0:31:11, 0:31:27]: that yet, but it would be a a potable water line that came into um the splash pad here. Obviously splash pad wouldn't be potable, but um you can do a flow through system or a recycling, recirculating system. We've done them both ways before. [0:31:29, 0:31:32]: All right. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. [0:31:35, 0:31:55]: Um this view is standing on the boardwalk that goes over Reeves Creek, looking back towards the Flex Lawn uh space. And you can see again open shade structures serving as shade pavilions, rentable pavilions, and um the clustering of them and how they're fronting both the flex lawn and [0:31:55, 0:32:02]: And the uh primary promenade walk that connects through the Reeves Creek Trail. So they're dual sided. [0:32:04, 0:32:24]: Okay. Um moving over to Gardner Park. Um from a programming standpoint, uh we have a lot of active recreation being um added to Gardner Park uh with pickleball courts. Uh one of the things that was uh [0:32:24, 0:32:44]: primarily the main difficulty with this park and what drove a lot of the spatial planning that you'll see in a moment was access, particularly as it relates to ADA access. Um so the parking lot which is currently on a large hill, sloped hill, as you all know, is getting [0:32:44, 0:33:04]: Relocated to run parallel to East Alena Road and align the entrance using utilizing the existing entrance of the parking lot, but it's a loop system. So the second entrance is actually aligned with Taylor Drive from a pedestrian circulation. The outer loop sidewalk. [0:33:04, 0:33:24]: of the park will remain mostly as is, but we have this spine running uh north-south here that is essentially serving as the spine of with the activity zones for the sports courts coming off of it. [0:33:24, 0:33:44]: And then going down to a lower playground area here. So with the parking, we are currently you guys do have 12 or 20 parking stalls with this existing parking lot that's on the hill. The reconfigured parking lot only has 15. [0:33:44, 0:34:03]: So we are losing some parking, but uh we're providing a trail connection to Cochrane Park on the other side of the creek here. Um and we actually think a lot of people will utilize that spillover parking area in Cochrane Park to access the lower portion of this park here. [0:34:05, 0:34:25]: So better connectivity to Cochrane parking with this. So this is the overall plan here. You can see how this parking lot is working off East Atlanta Road. And the configuration of this, what this allows us to get is dedicated ADA parking. [0:34:25, 0:34:45]: that um can be accessible to both the tennis courts and this larger pickleball court. So this one pickleball court um here at the bottom is an ADA friendly pickleball court so it's a little bit larger. We have a central restroom building here that has three restrooms. [0:34:44, 0:35:04]: Rooms and some storage. And then we have a upper pickleball court that's at the top of the hill. You'll see there's a lot of grade change happening here. So currently there's about a 10-foot wall, as you all know, that's holding up this existing parking lot. We're trying to break that wall down. [0:35:04, 0:35:12]: and make it much more pedestrian uh friendly from uh navigational purposes and view sheds. [0:35:13, 0:35:27]: Um and then off to the top here we have a natural sort of Panola Mountain Piemont granite um outcrop playground area themed area and then a new bridge in connection to Cochrane Park. [0:35:31, 0:35:51]: Uh this view here is a perspective of pulling in um off of East Atlanta Road. Again, this drive alignment here is utilizing the existing curb cut on East Atlanta Road, so that is in the same location, but instead of traversing up the steep hill and parking about where my cursor is, we're parking down low. [0:35:51, 0:36:11]: Um everything tennis courts are on the same grade as the parking lot uh in the ADA stalls. There's a um ramp that comes up on the side of the restroom building that gets you access to uh the B pickleball court, and then you can see. [0:36:11, 0:36:15]: See off in the distance there the existing uh pavilions. [0:36:16, 0:36:23]: that are to remain. Uh this view here is looking from the top of the hill. Um [0:36:24, 0:36:44]: as if you're coming down uh or a little bit high bird's eye level over the sidewalk from the existing pavilions coming down towards the tennis courts. Those tennis courts I should mention are existing. Um but you can see sort of the layering going on here with the sports courts. You have two pickleball courts flanking a s a central axis [0:36:44, 0:37:04]: uh series of stairs um that is on centered with the tennis courts as the focal point terminating that um sidewalk access there. Uh behind this restroom building and sort of centrally located amongst the three sports courts is a small outdoor um area where [0:37:04, 0:37:24]: there would be tables and chairs for resting or waiting until a sports court open opens up. Um I was joking with Mr. Ford Mayor Ford that that's where I would be after a short round of tennis or pickleball because I'm out of shape. So I would be sitting here viewing uh the sports uh other people [0:37:24, 0:37:25]: [2247.2, 2267.2]: This here is looking the opposite direction. Um, looking up the hill here, you can see because there's such grade change between the tennis courts and that upper sort of pavilion area, we're really trying to um alleviate some of that grade by doing a series of [0:37:47, 0:38:07]: pair of stairs as opposed to one large um staircase. What this allows is a much more pedestrian-friendly experience and view sheds that are open and more advantageous to seeing all the sports courts from one vantage point. [0:38:07, 0:38:27]: So again, this is just looking at this sort of break area behind the restroom building that's centrally located between the sports courts. If you traversed up the stairs and continued on that path, you'd eventually end up at the uh uh existing pavilion cluster at the top of the hill. And then we're thinking that this lower seat wall. [0:38:27, 0:38:33]: again is a way to work with the local artist to provide some sort of mural or artwork in the space. [0:38:37, 0:38:57]: Uh this here is the um natural play area, Panola Mountain Piedmont Granite outcrop sort of inspired. Um this is on the uh downhill side of the tennis court. The existing loop here is kind of in between the tennis court. [0:38:57, 0:39:17]: In this new playground area. There's an existing playground area just to the left of this uh view here. So we're kind of expanding off of that. Um, and you can see from a proposal standpoint where we have sort of these log climber theme um play equipment pieces. [0:39:16, 0:39:36]: pieces as well as bouldering pieces uh that are more for climbing. And then we're thinking that we we're thinking that there's going to be granite from construction that is going to be repurposed as sort of seat walls or seat boulders around the edges. [0:39:36, 0:39:45]: Of the playground. The large boulder you see labeled E itself is actually um reinforced concrete type structure. [0:39:47, 0:40:06]: And um a local example, if you guys want to see a local example of what this boulder can look like, E, uh, we recently completed a project in downtown Douglasville at um the Gray Graystone Amphitheater that has two of these guys. And they they are kids are always climbing all over'em. [0:40:08, 0:40:28]: Um this is just a uh eye level perspective coming down the central path there. Um you can see again uh we're trying to break break down those steep grades, um much more gradual transition between the tennis courts and upper area pickleball courts on either side. [0:40:28, 0:40:39]: side here in uh some sort of wayfinding signage, uh directing people where they are or where they uh with a map and where they may want to go. [0:40:41, 0:40:55]: So Anna touched based on this a little bit with her themes earlier. From an architectural standpoint, the vernacular we're using is tying back to the Greenfront Cafe. [0:40:55, 0:41:15]: Excuse me. In the Rosenwald schools. Um, so you'll see we have the um the pitched roof uh gabled um type uh architecture for the restroom pavilions with um the restrooms actually flanking the central sort of chase here. [0:41:15, 0:41:16]: [2478.8, 2498.8]: Um and from a materiality standpoint, our architects are thinking fiber cement siding, woodlook soffit on top, uh standing seam metal roof and um brick cladding at the base of the restroom building. Uh you can see again here sort of [0:41:38, 0:41:58]: the open area between what would be dedicated men's, women's, uh, family restroom for the majority of the structures. But in the top right here we have what the layout would look like for the one rest larger restroom building associated with the splash pad. [0:41:58, 0:42:08]: and how those restrooms are individual for changing room purposes. Each restroom has uh storage on the backside of each wing there. [0:42:11, 0:42:31]: And then this here is the small restroom building that you just saw as part of Gardner Park. This is uh three individual stalls with storage wrapping um sort of centrally of the building there. Um [0:42:31, 0:42:49]: Architecturally, it relates back s uh stylistically to the larger restroom. On the back side here, there's a built-in bench because this is the area where that sort of resting uh table space is uh for the outdoor seating that's centrally located amongst the sports courts there. [0:42:52, 0:43:12]: And then this is the garden shed with two restrooms, individual stalls that is associated with the community garden back at Clark Park. So on the back side, the side that actually opens up to the community garden, we have uh an extended roof line for shade. [0:43:12, 0:43:28]: where people can pot their plants. Um and then this is a garage door that rolls up so you can actually have a wheelbarrow or something else, shovels um, or potting stations inside this back of this building. [0:43:31, 0:43:51]: Um from a family of signage, uh we're looking at a couple of different signs, wayfinding signage, you are here type maps on this, and then park identifier sign. The park identifier signs would be at the main entrances, um, highlighting um the again the main entrances. [0:43:51, 0:43:56]: to the park from both uh vehicular and trail standpoints. [0:43:58, 0:44:18]: Okay, cost. Um so the the bottom line here, the park system master plan total um numbers you're seeing at the very bottom are the costs that were generated by our cost consultant during the master plan phase. Um [0:44:18, 0:44:38]: And the numbers above are our most recent cost estimations that are based on these plans that you just saw. And you can see the breakdown above. But generally speaking, we're pretty much in line with the park system master plan total. So Clark Park, we're actually [0:44:38, 0:44:58]: Actually coming um a little under the what the park system master plan total was five, four fifty five hundred thousand under. And that's because we took some of the um active recreation pickleball courts out of Clark Park, just because from a uh fitting and working with the site layout, it worked. [0:44:58, 0:45:18]: Work better at Gardner Park. So that's why that number is a little bit lower, and why Gardner Park you see here is a little bit higher because we actually added programming to Gardner Park during this phase that otherwise was not part of the master planning process phase when it was priced. Memorial Park is [0:45:18, 0:45:38]: Is about right on what was anticipated during the master plan um process. Also with Gardner Park, the master plan total uh did not include uh land acquisition and [0:45:38, 0:45:50]: And one of the reasons that this final total number is a little higher is because it's looking at uh land acquisition for a small parcel on the south side of Gardner Park. [0:45:51, 0:45:56]: If you guys do choose to do that. We haven't planned we haven't designed anything there to date. [0:45:58, 0:46:14]: Um that wraps up our presentation. I'm happy to flip back through to anything specific if you guys have questions, comments. Yeah, um that thank you for the presentation. I'd imagine obviously we would have to phase this in certain time to phases here in this aspect as well. But on that note, uh huh. [0:46:15, 0:46:35]: No, no, it's a cow. Okay. Good go ahead who's you you got something, sir? Oh go go ahead, Mr. Alexander. Uh I certainly am ex I I certainly am excited about what I see. Mr. Gardner, will you come up here please? We was uh uh the park's master plan I thought was supposed to include new park space as well. [0:46:34, 0:46:47]: in terms of uh us uh the park space that we're acquiring, especially in the south side of the city with the new parkland that we have acquired, I only see the existing parks being represented here. [0:46:47, 0:47:00]: So this was done prior to us acquiring getting access to that property through the the Henry County Water Authority. So that's the reason why this wasn't incorporated when this was being done and when they presented this. [0:47:00, 0:47:04]: It was happening. We had not acquired that property until last month. [0:47:04, 0:47:24]: Right, I certainly am a supportive of what I see already, but I thought our original scope was we were looking to identify new parkland, we were looking at pocket parks, a very just broad range of the things that we're gonna kinda do in the city. But certainly I'm very impressed with what I see in terms of the trail acquisition. [0:47:24, 0:47:31]: They should have been with Eric Canta. [0:47:35, 0:47:35]: The course. [0:47:37, 0:47:39]: This was a long time ago. [0:47:43, 0:48:03]: I wasn't specifically involved with the master planning process, but the um TSW uh did have stakeholder groups where they met with um various stakeholders and I'm fairly positive and confident in saying that they met with path um with the existing trails and how the best way looking at opportunities to extend those existing trails. [0:48:03, 0:48:07]: trails um to create that trail network plan for Stockbridge. [0:48:07, 0:48:15]: Yeah, as far as that's concerned, you certainly need to look at the plan and may make that available to him. The plan the downtown plan that has been developed. [0:48:28, 0:48:48]: Yes. We'll we'll be sure to um get in touch. I'm supportive of where where we are right now, but I I I just want to see the re the south side of the city represented in our areas uh as well. And as long as we can go along and do that. And Mr. Gardner, has that that that's already been solidified now so we can talk about [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: About it. [0:48:50, 0:48:50]: Yeah. [0:48:50, 0:48:53]: Has it been solidified now so we can talk about it? [0:48:53, 0:48:54]: The [0:48:54, 0:49:02]: The acquisition of the parkland? Yes. Yes. We've we've signed the agreement. Um the mayor signed the agreement as instructed by council. [0:49:02, 0:49:06]: Uh so we we now have access to that property. [0:49:06, 0:49:26]: So that's something that I just mentioned to um prior to coming coming up here I'd mentioned to the dashes. I said I don't think our twelve acre site on s on off of Eagles Island is included. So that's something that obviously we'll be working with TSW um to formulate uh one, we're gonna have to have community meetings. [0:49:26, 0:49:31]: um to talk about what you know what folks want to see in that area. [0:49:31, 0:49:51]: Um so we're gonna open it up to having some community meetings in that area um to get an idea of what they wanna see on the twelve acres and then how we program those twelve acres as part of this program part project. But then furthermore, how do we utilize some of the dollars that we have already identified as part of our splots to make to make the start to start this. [0:49:51, 0:49:53]: process happened to make some of that happen as well. [0:49:55, 0:50:15]: Well as that while we're connecting and I'm sure the stakeholders, I think we went down this line of making sure everybody was on the same page. And you know, we got the wayfinding group working on specific, very identifiable signage. So in this park they have a park sign and that is what [0:50:14, 0:50:34]: Well, as for the trail. So I want to make sure that everybody is on the same page. They're meeting with Sky Design to talk about what those designs are gonna look like. So they're not they're they're consistent with what we see along the roadside, and that they because the designs that they've come up with from Sky are [0:50:34, 0:50:49]: And we certainly want to incorporate that in a parking lot. So any few recognized it when when you guys approved the sky design for for the wayfinding signage, we did approve signages for our existing parks, they which are all consistent. [0:50:49, 0:51:03]: So any new park that comes online, that's the signage that's gonna be attributed to those new parks as they come online. Um that same program that we've already identified for Gardner Park, for um for Memorial Park and for Cochran. [0:51:04, 0:51:24]: Right. So I specifically want meetings set up with you all and Path Foundation and Mr. Gantther and a a just specific meeting to talk about how this works together and then the secondary meeting um with Sky Design. Well they don't have to meet with Sky Design. Because remember you guys have already approved the sign pocket. [0:51:24, 0:51:42]: And that sign package. So once once we get new sign once we get the parks, um the signage we already have the the signage approved for those existing parks to change them out. Okay. So any new park that we have, including the one um in Mr. Berry's district on e on um [0:51:43, 0:52:03]: Off of Eagles Landing and the current park that we just acquired over on Canler Road, when we start that program, those are how those signages will be in line with each of the existing parks that we have now. Right. And that was gonna be the next step. So [0:52:03, 0:52:23]: We're going through now and getting that happened to make sure that that program gets moving. Because obviously we have some funding that's tied with a clock ticking on it to get that going, Opera funds. So we making sure we get those monies allocated so we don't have to return them back to the federal government. Um so we're gonna get that program is starting. So definitely [0:52:23, 0:52:41]: This p all of our existing parks, what they put Sky Design presented to you guys was signage for all of our parks that are consistent, for all of our wayfinding that's consistent, for our entry level that's consistent. So any new parks, whether we acquire today or 10 years down the road, will follow that program. [0:52:42, 0:53:02]: Okay, and now as you mentioned the existing park, the new park that we have open now on Kendler Road, which is not just a dog park. I know we all shouldn't say that, but we have acreage, we have enough space over there to do some active stuff uh as well. I know we have the and the one thing that I did not see is what we have. [0:53:02, 0:53:22]: have at Rees Creek Trail, which is the outside exercise equipment. That is something that has really worked out great over at Rees Creek Trail and certainly should send out the message all over the city, especially in the newer parks. They the park on Canler Road would be perfect for that outside. [0:53:22, 0:53:42]: exercise equipment along with maybe even again a pickleball court or something active to go along with that, but certainly to make sure that we uh are incorporating and taking advantage of the land we own it because the developer uh donated to us uh with the uh logistics project that they worked on. [0:53:42, 0:53:57]: So you all coming to the table and assisting us with programming that part, which is open now, would certainly be inclusive. Cause right now FIFA call it the dog part, but it's not just the dog part. There's so many other opportunities for it. Thank you. [0:53:58, 0:54:00]: Any other questions, Council? [0:54:00, 0:54:03]: Also, um kudos you guys. Yeah, put your mic on, sir. [0:54:05, 0:54:08]: Kudos to you guys'cause I love what you presented and um [0:54:08, 0:54:19]: Really excited to see it come to life. Um I think y'all captured the essence a lot of the essence of uh what Stockbridge is historically and have tied all of that in. I I really love how [0:54:19, 0:54:35]: that was brought together. Uh just as uh Councilman Alexander said, I'm also looking forward to what you're gonna do with the next stuff, the next projects as well. So um just hats off, nothing negative to say here. Just really enjoy the the um schemes and everything that you laid out for us. [0:54:35, 0:54:36]: Thank you. [0:54:37, 0:54:40]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead. Go ahead, please. [0:54:41, 0:54:52]: I'm I'm going to uh agree with what's been said. It's beautiful. Um my concern though is how do we fund this and how do we [0:54:53, 0:54:54]: Um [0:54:54, 0:55:00]: prioritize for each park the step by step [0:55:00, 0:55:07]: and the implementation. Uh wh what's what's the bottom line for all of the renovation for the all three parks? [0:55:08, 0:55:09]: For all three [0:55:12, 0:55:17]: Again, this includes some land acquisition. Um eighteen and a half. [0:55:18, 0:55:20]: Eighteen five six three? Yes. [0:55:21, 0:55:41]: So, Mr. Gardner, sort of share with us your ideals of how we uh begin to fund and how do we uh begin to implement um each power. [0:55:41, 0:55:45]: instrumentally, how how how do we how do we take the first step? [0:55:47, 0:55:57]: Well, so you guys haven't adopted this yet, so in terms of sitting down and going through the action plan of how we're gonna ta tackle this eighteen point five million? Um [0:55:58, 0:56:12]: Don't have that yet. But what I will say is w we did fund as part of our upcoming SPLOSS program, we did put funding in there for our parks to make improvements in our parks and I forget how much that money is. [0:56:12, 0:56:13]: Um [0:56:14, 0:56:24]: So that's gonna help get the ball rolling. And also how do we leverage that with obviously some additional funding from outside to make some of the stuff happen. But you recognize that this [0:56:24, 0:56:27]: What you see before you is not a to mo it's not a [0:56:29, 0:56:31]: Next year plan. This is a [0:56:32, 0:56:44]: twenty or fifteen year horizon plan and so you're gonna have multiple opportunities to fund these projects to make them come to fruition. It's not something that's gonna happen in five years. There's just no way to any jurisdiction [0:56:45, 0:56:55]: You know, could make something like this accomplish this in a five year window. So this is definitely your long term master plan for the next ever still rising on this plan, I think is it twenty fifteenth? [0:56:56, 0:56:57]: So [0:56:58, 0:57:18]: It's 20. That includes all the paths. All of the pods and everything. So that's you're talking about a 20-year plan horizon, kind of similar to your comprehensive plan, right? Which is a 20-year horizon. But what we can do and what we will do is shrink this down into a implementation plan, kind of what we're doing with the trail system, and say, okay. [0:57:18, 0:57:38]: Okay, what makes sense? Do we start where we could get the most bang for our book, which is usually how you should start? And how do we do that? Is that something that we concentrate on all three parks? What specific projects out of this out of this plan can we plug into the funding source that we get to start making some things happen in each of the parks? [0:57:38, 0:57:42]: So there's equity.'Cause I know that's probably because every park is not located in everybody's district. [0:57:43, 0:57:49]: Right. Um so how do we get equity? The most of our parks currently are stationed in district four and [0:57:50, 0:58:10]: I mean Ms. Barber's district in your district, right? Um, and so with the onlining of uh Kandler Road in Mr. Um Alexander's district, and now with the the um park in Mr. Berry's district, you know, how do we start to make sure we get those parks up and coming? Well, right now [0:58:10, 0:58:16]: Now we know Kennedy Road is pretty much done. We had private investment that made a lot of that happen. [0:58:16, 0:58:36]: in case of Mr the Park and Mr. Berry's district, there is no funding, right? So we've we've got to identify how do we get that. But until the only way we'll know is once we start having those public meetings with the community and getting their feedback and our designers now put that into those design, those requests into [0:58:36, 0:58:56]: a program as you've seen here and then cost it out, will we know what that 12 acres is going to be, what that total cost is going to be, and how we're going to program that 12 ac that 12 acres over time. But that's that's what we're going to, we're going to we're going to look at this and we're going to condense this down and say, hey, how do we get some things happen with the funding that we have? [0:58:56, 0:59:14]: And that's gonna be a f a three a one to five year ratio uh years to get this stuff done. Cause remember our S Plus is six. So we can start making some things happen that people will see, feel in touch. So we know that when the next year comes, we're programming another chunk of our program, our S Plus monies towards this. [0:59:17, 0:59:37]: For the sake of time, I'm not gonna drill down in into Memorial Park. I I think the the rendering presentation is great. I I think Memorial Park may have the the biggest challenge, um, simply because of the issue with uh with parking and and and the creek, but um [0:59:37, 0:59:38]: Yeah. [0:59:38, 0:59:58]: I'm going to look at this a little closer and I do have some question, but again, because of the sake of time, I I really just won't get into it now. But um I'm I do like what I see. I I just I know it's gonna be a challenge. Go ahead, Mr. Garner. And and and the other part too, that that we can [0:59:58, 1:00:05]: could put piggyback off of for additional funding is that area is still considered [1:00:05, 1:00:25]: Uh the block grant. Underserved block grant, which means we can then channel C D B G monies on an annual basis to getting some of these projects happening. Right. We did that in East Point. We utilize our portion of our C D B G monies and then all went all of our CDBG money went to POX. So that's in essence where we could start making [1:00:25, 1:00:45]: And because that area we know qualifies, we can start funding those money just. So we got multiple ways of getting ready. Right. Right. Right. Sir. Go right ahead, please. Thank you. May I give you a little bit of a little bit more. This has been on our table now for over a year. Certainly I think what we need to do is we need to although this [1:00:44, 1:01:04]: This is concept, and certainly things can change. We know that, right? But we we need to really go ahead and approve this portion of the plan, understanding that the concepts are going to change so that we can lock down some of this to move forward so we can go to the next step. [1:01:04, 1:01:24]: County undertook their plan, they passed it within six months. We've been working on this since COVID, about two and it took over two years now. We need to go ahead and move forward with this portion and then task them with the new parks and the additional work. But this portion right here, I think we need to go ahead and um [1:01:24, 1:01:44]: It's f it's phenomenal. We understand that uh that the uh the funding is certainly gonna be a challenge. And I know that we have some some of the trail segments are already in the T Splost already. So some of the trail segments, the funding is already there uh to to uh help implement some of those. And I think we have some [1:01:44, 1:02:04]: Some over we should end up with some overages in many of these categories on our SPLOS and on our T SPLOST to be able to invest in this. And I think some of the communities have endeavored to enter into a comprehensive bond plan to finance. [1:02:04, 1:02:24]: parks over an extended period of time so they could actually see some movement uh on projects like this instead of waiting, you know, 20 years to just go ahead and do that. I know what are you what what have you seen in that area, Mr. Gardner, in terms of communities making commitments to uh park plans. I know that was [1:02:24, 1:02:44]: was I think maybe Roswell or maybe one of the other cities had endeavored on like a 30 or 40 year plan. And they were there was uh some uh bond packages associated with it. So yes. Um so hopefully in the very near future, hopefully between now and and the and our next uh work [1:02:44, 1:03:04]: Session, my goal is to come to you with an opportunity to actually fund some of our major capital projects. And that's through utilizing something we heard today, special district, right? And that would help us really and truly move some projects forward. [1:03:04, 1:03:09]: Specifically dealing with special districts on commercial and industrial areas versus residential. [1:03:10, 1:03:27]: So I know for we uh we met recently a financial advisor myself um went met with a local jurisdiction in the metro area that actually implemented this. Um and they were able to fund a lot of programs through it, capital projects as well. [1:03:27, 1:03:36]: That's an a that's an opportunity for us to be able to raise some additional funding to make this happen on on top of what we're getting through SPLOS and through potential uh C D BG moneys. [1:03:36, 1:03:43]: So are you asking for some direction from the council and to go ahead and approve this tonight or what it Yes, sir. [1:03:44, 1:04:04]: So keep in mind this is a part of the master plan. The master plan does address parts in South, up in Eagles Landing. There's also one off Walt Stevens. There's also some parking parts. If you look at the master plan, this is a schematic plan for the current parts that we have, the improvements. [1:04:03, 1:04:16]: for that. But if you look at the overall master plan, it does address this new parks. So it just identified the areas where you were looking. One was in the Eagles Landing area, as I said, one was in Walt Stevens. [1:04:16, 1:04:23]: I think there's one off of Tide Street somewhere, but there are multiple new parts that are incorporated in the master plan. [1:04:23, 1:04:30]: But this is just a schematic plan that addresses the current parts you have that was pulled out of the overall master plan. [1:04:30, 1:04:43]: So uh councilman, what do you think? Uh is your district uh we uh we've asked or the city manager's asking for some um approval to move forward. Uh is your district like to make the motion or [1:04:43, 1:04:44]: What'd you like to do? [1:04:48, 1:04:52]: I I don't have an issue with the motion. Um [1:04:53, 1:05:13]: The reason I asked the question about the the the funding, and I know uh the community block grant fund will sort of assist Memorial Park for sure. I'm just not sure about the other park because and the reason I asked this question because the figure that I had in my head [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: uh with the m with the master plan was [1:05:17, 1:05:30]: Well over a hundred million dollars. And I understand, you know, twenty years. I do get that. So and I'm not sure what you want us to approve tonight because what I like to see though is a plan of how do we [1:05:30, 1:05:31]: What do we [1:05:32, 1:05:34]: Increment first. [1:05:34, 1:05:37]: What is what are the steps that we're going to take? So really [1:05:38, 1:05:40]: The question there is is out here. [1:05:42, 1:05:44]: And so by making a motion to accept this. [1:05:45, 1:05:46]: Let me ask you this this way. [1:05:47, 1:05:50]: So if we accept this plan tonight. [1:05:51, 1:06:03]: Where do we go from here? In order and I need to get a better understanding of where we go from here in order for me to make the motion. Right. So So so you expi you're you're you're approving the broad plan, right? [1:06:04, 1:06:24]: And so what I mentioned is when you said, Mr. Gardner, how are we gonna bite this? How how how are we gonna how are we gonna eat this, this, this, this, this, this elephant? And so that's where we're gonna condense this down to that one year to five year things that we wanna get accomplished and we know where we're getting the funding sources through, right? So we'll bring that back to you to say, hey, um councilman [1:06:23, 1:06:39]: members, this is how we're going to start to eat this elephant. We're going to start here, here, here, here, and here over the next five years. And this is what we want to do next year. So you'll see it annually. And that's just looking at it a little bit more strategically rather than rather than [1:06:40, 1:06:49]: trying to figure out how we gonna d uh digest it over twenty years, we'll show how we're gonna digest this over a five one to five year period. Right and and and see and what you say in that [1:06:50, 1:06:53]: That seems to be where the motion needs to be. [1:06:54, 1:07:14]: Uh as opposed to the day. So am I wrong in that assumption? You want you want to approve you want us to approve the this this overall plan, right? Okay. And then what we come back to you is the action, how we're going to now accomplish those things and how we're gonna do it. That's looking at it strategically over the next couple of years, how we're gonna eat this animal. So [1:07:14, 1:07:34]: Approved the broad plan so we could then go and cherry and pick strategically what we want to get done because we know that this has been approved. But then we just need you to come back and say, hey, here's our one-year window, here's our five-year window. These are the things we want to get accomplished, and here's how we're gonna get accomplished through what funding sources, whether it's PLOSS grants or if if council [1:07:34, 1:07:45]: does a special in uh t district. This is how we plan on funding these this five year project on an annualized basis. And then you approve that and then he he got him and his guys go to work. [1:07:45, 1:07:46]: Well [1:07:47, 1:08:02]: With that being said then, uh I will make the motion uh to accept the overall grand plan with the understanding that we will come back uh [1:08:04, 1:08:06]: And I don't know the time frame when we'll come back. [1:08:07, 1:08:11]: with the plan that you just mentioned coming back and condensing it down. [1:08:12, 1:08:17]: So before I com complete the m the motion, when will you when will you come back? [1:08:17, 1:08:19]: With that second [1:08:20, 1:08:40]: plan within the larger plan. So give us some time and obviously we we're all hoping that our splots is successful. I'm looking at our list and I think the list that we s did we approve forty five days. We put about I think it's between five to one six point one million dollars is what we put in the SPLOS for Splus Six. So [1:08:40, 1:08:50]: You you will come back to us in forty five days. I wanna come back to you guys um once you approve this. I I've probably uh meeting either in in f [1:08:51, 1:09:02]: I mean, we could we could once you approve this we could kinda pick some things that we want to identify. So give us probably the work session in um November. [1:09:03, 1:09:05]: How how many days is that? Oh gosh. [1:09:06, 1:09:13]: It's right around Thanksgiving by the same thing. So that's about that's about sixty sixty days, Madam Clerk. If you [1:09:14, 1:09:28]: Okay, so um I move that we accept the overall grand plan uh with the consideration that we will come back in sixty days to [1:09:29, 1:09:36]: create the incr incrementally uh plans uh to to move it forward. Second [1:09:37, 1:09:43]: Motion's been made in the second. Are there in further discussion? And if not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:09:44, 1:09:50]: C Nam's decision. Four. Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Fantastic. [1:09:51, 1:10:05]: All right. Consent agenda. Council consideration to approve the use of mural manners. And actual date is uh Meral Manners Conference uh for center for the police department annual awards gala, which is actually uh February eighth of twenty twenty five. [1:10:05, 1:10:06]: When I read the data there. [1:10:07, 1:10:14]: And also on the consent agenda is consideration for the approval of Lichy Commercial Construction Incorporated contract for court renovation. [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: And uh I would imagine this would be presented by Mr Gardner if we had to go any further discussion. [1:10:20, 1:10:22]: So that's on the Cassette Agenda Council? [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: Is there a motion to accept this? [1:10:27, 1:10:32]: Mr Marb ms um Maripotent said so moved. Is there a second? [1:10:33, 1:10:38]: I want to second that, but I might want to know what the court renovations are. [1:10:39, 1:10:39]: It's not. [1:10:40, 1:10:43]: Okay. Well f okay, f hold on. Uh Mr. Garner. [1:10:44, 1:10:50]: So at our at our budget retreat, I think the court administrator talked about the fact of trying to fix the dice. [1:10:51, 1:10:57]: Um, expand some of the uses for the public as well as create a a bathroom for for the for the staff and [1:10:57, 1:11:07]: Um, that will impose capacity and assist the judge by moving the dice because the dice is too low, they wanna move the dice up, um, so he could get a better view of what's going on. So [1:11:08, 1:11:12]: Okay, sick. All right. No further discussion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:11:14, 1:11:19]: Unam s game a good okay. It's Unam's decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. [1:11:22, 1:11:34]: New business council's consideration to approve the new position accountant two and a reclassification of the senior accountant to accounting manager. Presented by Miss Gaines and Miss Wheeler, please. [1:11:35, 1:11:37]: Ladies, or lady. [1:11:38, 1:11:40]: How are you guys doing this evening? [1:11:42, 1:11:46]: Can you hear me? Okay, good. So I did a little bit of an amendment. [1:11:48, 1:11:51]: Um gotta see. Okay, good. So here [1:11:52, 1:11:58]: And this is briefly what we talked about at the retreat. So we're requesting the reclass of the senior accountant. [1:11:58, 1:12:02]: And then I'm asking for the new position of the accountant too. [1:12:05, 1:12:16]: But we've come to the conclusion that I should go ahead on and ask for the property tax specialist as well so that we can go ahead on and get these positions in and get them trained for the upcoming [1:12:18, 1:12:20]: Homestead exemptions. [1:12:21, 1:12:27]: So here I just excuse me, could you go back to the previous slide? I'm sorry. Because somehow you said you added I think there's [1:12:27, 1:12:30]: So no the what slide there [1:12:30, 1:12:35]: Okay, it's a little different because uh you said you wanted to make an amendment. Yes, sir. Okay, I see now. Okay, thank you. Yes, sir. [1:12:36, 1:12:56]: Um, we were kind of up in arms about, you know, the title of the position. So we finally m came to a conclusion that we're gonna call it the property tax specialist. And this person is gonna be in charge of, of course, receiving our property taxes and all things associated with that, as well as getting ready for the homestead applications and submission. [1:12:56, 1:12:59]: [4380.2, 4386.9]: So we wanna go ahead on and get these things approved and get the positions posted and maybe possibly higher. [1:13:08, 1:13:20]: So that's the only deviation from what you guys have is the property tax specialist. And here I just give a basic brief uh breakdown of what each individual person will additionally be doing. [1:13:21, 1:13:25]: In addition to helping with other things that go on in the finance department. Um [1:13:26, 1:13:34]: Yeah, forward. Yes, sir, go ahead, please. Uh if if I may, um I I do have a little concern about [1:13:35, 1:13:41]: Doing this now. Mm-hmm. Mayor, if it's okay, I'd like for Mrs. Wheeler to uh to come forward. I think she's back there. [1:13:51, 1:13:52]: Um [1:13:54, 1:14:06]: And and correct me if if um this if this is not pregnant to to this issue. Um my concern is [1:14:08, 1:14:10]: De [1:14:11, 1:14:17]: four time position of treasurer. And I just think that um [1:14:19, 1:14:27]: That person, whether it's the person that's the interim or a new person, that the process seemed to be to have. [1:14:28, 1:14:30]: That person in place [1:14:30, 1:14:37]: before we take on this. And I I thought we were doing this at some point in September. [1:14:37, 1:14:40]: But I see that it did not happen. So [1:14:40, 1:14:42]: But basically my c my concern is [1:14:44, 1:14:52]: I can't see moving forward with these positions without having the the the full-time treasure in place. [1:14:53, 1:14:59]: uh whether it's the interim now or it's someone else. So they will have some [1:15:00, 1:15:20]: input into this process. And and that's my concern today. A month from now, if we go through the process of interviewing and you know putting someone in permanent, then I'll feel okay in moving forward with this. But I just feel a little backwards [1:15:19, 1:15:25]: at this point to try to go forward with this and then you bring someone in. [1:15:25, 1:15:42]: Or if, let me put let me put a if on that, if you bring someone else in different and they didn't have the opportunity to be involved in this process, because cause it's very important. And that's my only concern about today, doing this today. [1:15:44, 1:15:50]: And I did read the um the job descriptions and [1:15:51, 1:16:03]: there were some things that I did not see in those job description that probably should be in, especially uh and I know Mrs. Gang, you mentioned with the uh exemption, [1:16:03, 1:16:06]: Um, but that should be, I think, foremost. [1:16:07, 1:16:11]: um in going forward. But I just have some some problem with [1:16:12, 1:16:13]: The process today. [1:16:16, 1:16:23]: I yield back, Mary. Oh, no problem, appreciate it. So otherwise, I think what you just asked about the job, the probably tax individual needs to have a job description. [1:16:23, 1:16:35]: designated for it before we approve it and we don't have that right now, is that correct? It has just been changed recently. Okay. One that was brought before you at the retreat was definitely [1:16:35, 1:16:36]: Okay. [1:16:37, 1:16:57]: The property tax specialist has just been changed recently. I mean, just in the last couple of days. Okay. So we originally brought forward in the at the budget retreat the accounting specialist. That was the title that was uh presented to you all at the budget retreat. That has since changed. [1:16:57, 1:17:15]: change to now they want to call it a property tax specialist because the major duties of that individual will be handling the tax, the homestead for at least 50% of their time will be spent doing that from January through April. [1:17:15, 1:17:20]: So that means that that the the the job description will have to come back forward to you when we present. [1:17:20, 1:17:26]: The budget. Okay. And the budget is presented to you, then that job description update will be given to you all. [1:17:27, 1:17:27]: All right. [1:17:28, 1:17:48]: Right. And the other thing I'm like um uh Councilman uh Thomas, I would say the reasoning why we have yet to have this uh meeting or this uh uh process to uh go through the uh pick a treasurer, I would say I'll take responsibility for that. That was something I was supposed to coordinate with everybody. So I'll take responsibility for the delay on that. Okay? I accept that. I've [1:17:48, 1:17:51]: So we now we gotta make that change. We gotta do this. [1:17:52, 1:17:52]: Okay. [1:17:52, 1:17:57]: Okay. But we also have to remember that we have to try to get someone in and trained. [1:17:58, 1:18:08]: um prior to January first, uh for the at least for the property tax specialist, because that person has to be on board and get trained on how to um [1:18:10, 1:18:18]: handle all of the new uh so when you say training you have to send them some to GMA is that what he'll probably get trained by [1:18:19, 1:18:27]: Henry County tax assessor's office on how to go ahead and process those tax assessments when they come in in homestead. [1:18:27, 1:18:47]: Because it's gonna be a whole new process that's never been done here before. So the training has to occur not only with the tax specialist, but the other staff that would back that person out because you don't wanna have a solo uh position just hailing that, and then something happens you don't have backup. So everybody in the [1:18:47, 1:18:48]: Yeah, um [1:18:48, 1:18:54]: from the accounting manager down is going to need to be trained prior to January first when all that takes place. [1:18:55, 1:19:01]: So we need to make sure that we kind of move diligently if you wanna wait as uh [1:19:01, 1:19:05]: Councilman Thomas has mentioned about hiring a treasurer. [1:19:05, 1:19:09]: And then whoever that individual is will then have to come back and [1:19:09, 1:19:10]: Get uh re [1:19:11, 1:19:15]: uh acquainted with what is needed in that department. [1:19:16, 1:19:18]: All right, thank you. Uh Mr. Berry, go ahead, please. [1:19:18, 1:19:37]: I guess my my line of question or comment is on the um property tax specialist because I do understand the the time frame with us going into this new process. And so this this new position would also have to be posted and and filled, all with it with it being already basically October. [1:19:38, 1:19:40]: Right. So you're talking about at least at the [1:19:41, 1:19:44]: Minimum amount of time frame it'll be forty five days. [1:19:44, 1:20:04]: From the time of posting and bringing somebody in, hopefully we get someone with some experience in that area. That's the minimum amount of time that it would take. It seems hard. Seems like a a a very arduous task to to try to post this and hire them and train them in the next ninety days. [1:20:04, 1:20:11]: Days. [1:20:11, 1:20:12]: So I mean it's [1:20:13, 1:20:20]: But I do understand it's it's this is by probably the most important aspect of what it is we're trying to do with our new [1:20:21, 1:20:27]: You know, city tax and exemptions and home state coming on. [1:20:27, 1:20:32]: that may retire. So we also have to get someone in to also [1:20:33, 1:20:36]: You know, if that person retires in within this say ninety days or [1:20:37, 1:20:41]: A hundred and twenty days, you're talking about oh I'm sorry. Yeah. [1:20:42, 1:20:46]: We have an accounts payable clerk that is considering retiring. [1:20:46, 1:20:52]: So with that that leaves a large gap in the department also because of the number of um [1:20:53, 1:20:54]: You know [1:20:54, 1:21:04]: the amount of work that is considered now, we do have to have a backup to that individual. We have one person handling it for the whole city and it's no longer [1:21:04, 1:21:07]: Functioning properly, so we do have to have. [1:21:07, 1:21:09]: Аліс анато персонак. [1:21:09, 1:21:10]: that individual up. [1:21:11, 1:21:12]: So you have a [1:21:12, 1:21:19]: you know, twofold issue here in the in the finance department that we have to get um fixed. [1:21:20, 1:21:21]: Sooner than later. [1:21:22, 1:21:35]: May I go ahead please? So I do want us to move forward with posting and advertising the tax uh position, the property tax position. [1:21:37, 1:21:40]: And we can hold off until [1:21:41, 1:21:43]: Until we schedule. [1:21:43, 1:21:44]: The interviews. [1:21:44, 1:21:45]: For [1:21:46, 1:21:47]: Filling the treasurer position. [1:21:48, 1:21:51]: If I may, if there is no more questions, I will make a motion. [1:21:53, 1:22:07]: I don't know. Any other any other any questions, Council? Good. Go ahead with your motion, please. Okay. I move that we um approve the property tax specialist position. Is that what it was? Yes. Yes, ma'am. [1:22:07, 1:22:13]: Approve the property tax specialist position to be posted um immediately. [1:22:16, 1:22:20]: And wait, and we would uh um [1:22:21, 1:22:24]: We will table the [1:22:24, 1:22:26]: Oh no no. We want to [1:22:26, 1:22:27]: Continue with the accountant. [1:22:28, 1:22:30]: Yes. Two positions. Post both of them. [1:22:31, 1:22:36]: Is it to post both or to reclassify just one? [1:22:38, 1:22:41]: Okay, let me rescind my motion. [1:22:41, 1:22:43]: Can we start over? [1:22:43, 1:22:44]: Uh [1:22:46, 1:22:58]: You ready? If I have to approve the job description, we haven't presented you all with the job description yet. So we will table the job description or table this accountant to position. [1:22:58, 1:23:03]: property title and you all will bring us back the job description for that position. [1:23:03, 1:23:04]: For the accountant too. [1:23:05, 1:23:25]: For the accountant two, or is that the accountant management? The accountant two pos um job prescription was provided. The only position the job prescription wasn't provided was for the property tax. Specialist, yes, ma'am. Yes. So we have to now rewrite it for what the [1:23:25, 1:23:45]: the students and responsibilities are gonna be bring that back to you for approval and then we'll be able to post and and and advertise for that position. Okay. The reason why I just I added this one there was some training that was being offered so I wanted to ensure that we got someone in and that was getting the um on [1:23:44, 1:23:47]: Online training from the case of the case. [1:23:47, 1:23:54]: So tell me what you're recommending that we do, Miss Is that for me? Miss Wheeler or you? Oh. [1:23:54, 1:24:13]: Miss Gay. I'm requesting for the property tax specialist and the accountant too, just in the event and because Ms. Renee's been talking about the possibility of the accounts payable clerk retiring. So we're definitely gonna have someone need someone to come in and train for all of the things that we have going on. [1:24:14, 1:24:27]: Okay, so you wanna begin um advertising for both those positions? Yes ma'am. Immediately. Okay. Um so I moved to um direct staff or HR to begin posting. [1:24:28, 1:24:33]: for the accountant two position and the property tax. [1:24:33, 1:24:35]: Specialists position. [1:24:36, 1:24:50]: But you still need a prompt you still need a job description first before you post that no they can bring the job description back to us on the fourteenth instead of slowing the process down. No, no. And to bring back the job description. [1:24:51, 1:24:56]: Four the accountant two. No. [1:24:57, 1:25:17]: Mayor Ford. Yeah, yes, sir. Stand by a second, please. I I think what you I'm gonna jump to I think what you're gonna we you have to we have to approve the job description for account uh for the payroll tax person before you post it. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay, so what you can so is to have counsel approve the position of the property taxpayer. [1:25:17, 1:25:27]: specialists once the job description has brought been brought forward to you for approval with us advertising for that position immediately. [1:25:28, 1:25:32]: Okay. That's your recommendation. [1:25:32, 1:25:33]: All right. [1:25:34, 1:25:41]: I and that that sounds great to me is if you put that in emotion, but I would think that the the accountant two though you can you can do that right away. [1:25:42, 1:25:53]: You can do the counting two right away if you want. Yes, sir. Because you already have it you already have a job description for it. Yes, sir. The one part is the advertising and the one part is the approval, right? [1:25:54, 1:26:11]: So we're gonna go ahead and get the advertising started now and then the one that has the job description will be approved. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm sorry, Mr uh Mr Thomas, I did I forgot. Go ahead, sir please. Mrs. Wheeler. Um Ms. How's Wheeler let me rescind my motion. [1:26:12, 1:26:15]: Okay. Okay. She rescends that go ahead, Mr. Thomas. [1:26:16, 1:26:21]: M Mrs. Will, w w one thing is clear that I I know and I understand. [1:26:22, 1:26:23]: You cannot [1:26:24, 1:26:27]: advertise a position. [1:26:27, 1:26:35]: Without the job description first. You can't ever taste a position without a job description. [1:26:35, 1:26:35]: Correct. [1:26:36, 1:26:36]: So [1:26:37, 1:26:42]: And I and I I'm trying to make sure we all understand that that you have to create that job description. [1:26:43, 1:26:54]: In order to put that out so when people applying for the job, they see and understand the job description that they are applying for. Okay. [1:26:54, 1:27:02]: That's why I said that we would bring I'm I'm I'm sorry to speak to my counsel means I know you know this. I know you know this. So [1:27:02, 1:27:06]: Councilmember Bar, your your your motion is good, but I think the one position [1:27:07, 1:27:10]: that's already set with a job prescription. [1:27:10, 1:27:13]: You know, you can go ahead and advertise that. [1:27:14, 1:27:20]: But the but the but the but but but the position that do not have a job description, you cannot advertise that position. [1:27:21, 1:27:35]: Right, so that's what we're going to bring. You have to break Yes. All right, so y y I know you all understand. You you you staff understand exactly what needs to happen. I kinda wonder do we read any emotion on that if we understand that. [1:27:36, 1:27:50]: No, I understand it. Right. Oh, Mr. Gardner, you come solve this for us to do that. Which of the job description you all need to bring back? Is it for the property tax specialist? [1:27:50, 1:27:50]: Mm. [1:27:51, 1:27:53]: All right. [1:27:54, 1:28:02]: If it's the will of council, can you please approve um A, which is the reclassification of the accounts manager and [1:28:03, 1:28:16]: Three, the accounting two, we will bring the job description ASAP back to council for the property tax. So you guys can approve that at the next meeting. I'm gonna make two motions, if I may, mayor. Two motions. Come back, Mr. Gardner. [1:28:16, 1:28:18]: Two motions. One [1:28:20, 1:28:22]: I move to approve the new position. [1:28:22, 1:28:23]: Of the account. [1:28:24, 1:28:25]: Account and two. [1:28:26, 1:28:29]: in reclassification of the senior accountant. [1:28:29, 1:28:30]: To account [1:28:30, 1:28:31]: Manager. [1:28:33, 1:28:53]: That's right. Is that your first motion? Yes, my first one. Is there a second in the motion? Let me ask you a question. How long is it gonna take to do the job description? Because w instead of waiting another two weeks, g w can you get the job description within a couple of days? You send it to us or we have another meeting instead of waiting two weeks. But you will have to approve it as [1:28:53, 1:29:13]: But but my my thing is that I I don't I think it's critical that we do this is that we we we waiting to the end of the month. I wanna see us have a town hall on the exemption so people understand what they voted on, don't go in there and vote no and under not understanding what they're doing. So I don't wanna wait to the next meeting. [1:29:13, 1:29:24]: to go ahead and do what's necessary to get the job description so we can approve it. And so I understand what Councilman Thomas is saying. What can we do to get the job description and go ahead and approve it? [1:29:24, 1:29:25]: Well. [1:29:25, 1:29:45]: So here's the catch. There are two ways to approach advertising a job. And I'm trying not to make this complicated, right? You can say we're looking for a tax person that's going to do this, this, this, and this, which is, you don't fully put the job description down in the job advertisement. We're looking for a tax person to process tax XYZ for the city of Stockbridge. [1:29:45, 1:29:48]: Either the pay or no pay. Well, you know, where do you gonna reflect that? [1:29:48, 1:29:55]: That should be enough to get the ball starting. And then you guys get the job description that says this is what this poison does. [1:29:57, 1:30:04]: Prescribed what qualifications they need to have and all of that good stuff. We want somebody that has at least a degree. [1:30:04, 1:30:09]: You know, that has at least two to three years experience in in doing tax administration or something that I don't [1:30:10, 1:30:10]: But [1:30:11, 1:30:22]: Those job description exists for communities that actually do this, have already done this for us. So we're not recreating the wheel. We're literally must taking their wheel and turning it into our car or putting it on our car. That's it. [1:30:23, 1:30:33]: I would imagine if we did that before, if we have a meeting prior to our next of official council meeting, that's that's gonna be a special call meeting to do that.'Cause we can't do it by email. We have to do that publicly I'm assuming. [1:30:34, 1:30:35]: Because you have to do it by ordinance. [1:30:36, 1:30:41]: So you have to have a public meeting in order to do it. That's why I said we could go ahead and bring it. [1:30:41, 1:30:42]: Um [1:30:42, 1:30:52]: We can bring it at the next available meeting and have you guys adopt the job description, but at least get us started on those two and we could go ahead and and make that that happen. All right. [1:30:53, 1:30:56]: So we need proper proper set of motions here to to get this done. [1:31:04, 1:31:09]: Okay, read read back what you have, Miss uh Miss uh Holloway to make sure we understand what the motion is. [1:31:12, 1:31:18]: approve the position of accountant to and the reclassification of the accounting manager. [1:31:20, 1:31:26]: Okay. Is that the is it a second to that motion? Second. Mr. Okay, I was not a second. All favor, please indicate. [1:31:26, 1:31:29]: All right, thank you very much. Okay, there's another motion, I believe. [1:31:31, 1:31:33]: To bring back the job description. [1:31:34, 1:31:35]: Um [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: Okay, now tell me. [1:31:39, 1:31:52]: You want me you want me to repeat it? Yes. Yes, sir. Okay, here we go. So to develop and bring back the job description for a tax property tax specialist at the next city council meeting, which I think is [1:31:52, 1:31:55]: I moved October October 14th. [1:31:55, 1:31:57]: I moved to direct um [1:31:57, 1:31:58]: Staff or [1:31:59, 1:32:08]: HR um to bring back the job description for the property tax specialist at the next council meeting. [1:32:09, 1:32:15]: Sir, second that motion. Mr. Mr. Mayor Pro Temberry, second there. All favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Okay. [1:32:16, 1:32:20]: So that is it for you ladies at this time. Let's do something else. [1:32:20, 1:32:37]: No. Thank you. Is there going to be a public meeting of some sort so folks don't go in the booth unknowledgeable about what they're doing? [1:32:37, 1:32:52]: So it's my understanding that we're looking at doing two meetings, two two public meetings to inform folks about the homestead. Uh we meant today to go over the process. Um we've got a draft application. We've made modifications to that. [1:32:53, 1:32:54]: We're going [1:32:54, 1:32:58]: We're going to have two ways you can apply. Well, get the application. One [1:32:59, 1:33:10]: There's gonna be a update on the website, which is a banner that scrolls across. You can click on that banner, that banner will take you directly to a fact sheet or to do sheet along with the application. [1:33:11, 1:33:12]: But you can fill out. [1:33:13, 1:33:17]: on your computer or you can print it and you can fill it out on your own. [1:33:17, 1:33:31]: And it will tell you what all documents you need and how to apply for the process. So that's and we've already got that goddamn pack. Our goal is to have that built and ready to go by what was it? I think I gave you all. [1:33:31, 1:33:42]: October fourteenth. We will have that ready to go in the background. We will look at it, make sure it makes sense. And so if the voters approve the property tax exemption [1:33:42, 1:33:44]: On november fifth [1:33:45, 1:33:48]: We will go live November sixth. [1:33:48, 1:34:08]: That website will be that portion will be turned on and available for folks recognizing that they can't apply until January. January first to April. We can't move on it, but at least they'll have that so they can start pulling down the application, filling it out, prov getting their support documents and getting ready to make sure it happens. And so we've got those exemptions, which I think is [1:34:08, 1:34:12]: [5652.8, 5672.8]: And then you have your 62 and older exemption, and then you have your septic tank exemption. And so we're working with the health department and Henry County Water Authority to geofence the because they've already done this survey according to them. Um so they're gonna geofence with the city to let us know who all's on septic and then moving forward. So those folks will be able to correspond. [1:34:32, 1:34:48]: correspond those addresses to those locations that have already been surveyed and obviously um we could be able to provide that opportunity for them to get that exemption for those folks who qualify. So that's so we're working. I will say that we learned our lesson from the annexation. [1:34:49, 1:34:52]: As I told the staff today, so our goal is not to be [1:34:53, 1:34:59]: in line or behind the gun is to be what? Ahead of the gun. So we're we're gonna be ready to go. [1:34:59, 1:35:06]: November sixth, if this is approved. If it's not approved, we just turn that section and we go back to doing what we're doing. [1:35:07, 1:35:10]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Okay. [1:35:10, 1:35:29]: Uh announcements and upcoming meeting events. Upcoming okay city council meetings will be held in city council chamber. Meeting dates and location and times are subject to change or contact city hall offices at seven seven zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred or visit the website at www.starbridgega dot org for updates. [1:35:29, 1:35:45]: Community meeting to discuss the Stockbridge Trails Plan is tomorrow, Wednesday, September 25th, 6 p.m. to 7 30 p.m. at Merrill Manor's Conference Center, 111 Davis Road. The community zoning and information meeting is Wednesday, October uh second. [1:35:45, 1:36:01]: from six PM to seven PM City Hall uh Council Chambers. Okay. The Stockbridge Cities Citizens uh Police Advisory Council meetings the first Thursday of each month, six PM in Stockbridge Police uh community room at forty five forty five North Henry Boulevard. [1:36:01, 1:36:21]: That is October 3rd. Youth Council meeting, first Monday of each month at 6:30 p.m. at City Hall Levi Meeting Room, October 7th. The Citywide Development Authority meeting is second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, October 8th. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting on the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. location. [1:36:21, 1:36:27]: Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, October 11th. [1:36:28, 1:36:48]: City Council meeting is second Monday of each month at 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers October 14th. The Downtown Development Authority meeting is third Tuesday of each month. Stockbridge Downtown Center, 1:30 ML King, Senior Heritage Trail, October 15th. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30 p.m. 30. [1:36:48, 1:37:08]: Tuesday of each month, the Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, right, October 15th. The planning commission meeting the third through uh excuse me, the third Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, October 17th. City Council Work Session meetings the last Tuesday of each month, which will be Tuesday to 20 October 29th, 6 p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers. [1:37:08, 1:37:28]: Okay, they join uh upcoming the city events initiative. Join Councilwoman Lakeisha Gantt in partnership with the Atlanta Food Truck, uh, truck uh food truck at Fortonite Market and the Stockbridge Amphitheater parking lot, 6 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. September 26th, and uh October 10th and November. [1:37:28, 1:37:48]: November 11th, which is Veterans Day, and November 21st. There will be vendors, vendors, food trucks, activities, games, music, and vibes. Contact tanbowers at the peachofmind at gmail.com for registration and additional information in reference to this particular event. [1:37:48, 1:38:08]: Join the city and Stockbridge for the annual Bridgefest event and for the City Stockbridge government is hosting this annual event for the community on Saturday, this Saturday, September twenty eighth. And we'll have live concert, food trucks, vendors and more get ready for fun in Stockbridge Amphitheater. I believe that the activity ever s everything starts at two o'clock that afternoon, I believe. [1:38:08, 1:38:25]: And then the concert, the gates open at five PM. The concert starts at seven. Uh join Councilman Alexander for the District Five, Hudson Bridge Road, community cleanup on Saturday, october fifth, from nine A.M. to eleven AM and please park the Walmart parking lot. Council is invited to [1:38:26, 1:38:46]: Okay, thank you very much. Please come out and enjoy the Cops and Clergy softball game during the Faith and Blue weekend on Saturday, October tenth, and it's actually gonna be from ten AM to twelve uh noon. And the location is JP Moseley Park at one zero four one Miller's Mill Road. Uh join Councilman Alfonso Thomas and a monthly senior bingo. [1:38:46, 1:39:06]: Bash on Wednesday, October 16th, uh, from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merrill Manor's Conference Center and 111 Davis Road for raffles, prizes, games, snacks, and fun. Join the city of Stockbridge for the fifty shades of pink love walk to highlight breast cancer awareness and survivors survivors at Clark Community Park at 111. [1:39:06, 1:39:26]: Davis Road, Saturday, October 19th from 10:30 to 1 p.m. Join Councilwoman Lakeesha Gan for the annual fall festival at Clark Community Park at 111 Davis Road on Saturday, October 26th from noon to 4 p.m. Join Mayor Ford, Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, October 28th. [1:39:26, 1:39:46]: From 10 a.m. to noon at the Stockbridge City Hall. Join Councilman Thomas for the Don't Trash Stockbridge initiative centered around education, highlighting the causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans with a continued salute of all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans with their names, brands. [1:39:46, 1:40:06]: branch, rank, and years of service. And that'll go to Rosalind Rawls by the way as well. And if you've got to contact Rosalind Rawls, your schedule appointment would meet the mayor for any additional information on council initiatives and events, six seven eight-eight three three three three three three three three three four four four four four eight or by way of email ralls at stopbridgega.org. [1:40:07, 1:40:11]: And for the twenty twenty four Stockbridge Amphith either ampitheaters this summer [1:40:11, 1:40:18]: concert series. But we're actually we're in the fall now. So now we're in the fall. And so we got uh concert coming up on um [1:40:19, 1:40:33]: Saturday, October fifth, featuring Monica, Tamar, Braxton and Seventh Streeter, and with a salute to the ladies of Divine Nine. This is a rescheduled show. Divine ladies on the Divine Nine. So all the brothers of Divine Nine bring up wear your colors as well. [1:40:33, 1:40:38]: KNAP starts at 6, grates open at 6 p.m. concert starts at 8. [1:40:38, 1:40:52]: And uh so Saturday, October twelfth, featuring that girl Lele and Friends of the Youth World Youth Concert. It's the first time we've had a youth concert in at the amphitheater, the bridge. That's two PM on that Saturday. The gates would open up at two PM. [1:40:52, 1:41:12]: Okay, let's see here. Sunday, October 13th, Kings and Queens of Southern Soul show. Um it's on a Sunday, so it's at the gates open up at 3 p.m. The concert starts at 5, featuring King George, Tucker, Sir Charles Jones, Poke Bear, TK Soul, all those wonderful folks. It's gonna be an outstanding concert. [1:41:12, 1:41:23]: Sunday, October 20th, 20 is the rescheduled show for featuring Charlie Wilson this time and with uh special guest Elder Barge. It's on a Sunday as well, so gates open at five, concert starts at seven. [1:41:24, 1:41:44]: Saturday, uh, October 26th, our jazz show, which will be Boney James, Slowburn Tour, with special guest Damien Escobar. Gates open up at 3 p.m. concert starts at five. And there is actually a new concert, another concert added to the bridge for this season, which will be the last one on November, Saturday, November 2nd. We see the dirty [1:41:44, 1:41:47]: South Throwback Hip Hop Fest. [1:41:47, 1:41:58]: And uh that concert gates open at six PM, concert starts at eight. And so uh come and check that out so Stockbridge AMP dot com and check on all the individuals that would be performing that night as well. [1:41:58, 1:41:59]: Yeah, so [1:42:01, 1:42:21]: And uh the main stro Stockbridge uh Main Street has a tiny tech concert series every Friday from six p.m. to eight p.m. per weather permitting, location one thirty ML King Senior Heritage Trail in Stockbridge, of course, right in our downtown area. Enjoy good music, uh local restaurants in our community and and all in one gorgeous location. [1:42:21, 1:42:41]: Location. Bring your family and make it a night, a date night. And don't forget to bring your lawn chairs. And my additional comments will be this is flu season, so make sure that you uh we're in the fall, so flu season, so make sure you get your flu shots, vaccinations, and covet 19 boosters to be healthy through the course of the winter months as well. And uh if you haven't registered a vote, you get [1:42:41, 1:43:00]: until October 7th to do so. Early voting starts on October 15th. It is your constitutional right to vote, and that's your power. So please be a registered voter and be an informed voter and go out and execute your constitutional right. Vote. On that note council, there's no more exactly sessions today, so I need a motion to end our meeting. [1:43:00, 1:43:09]: So moved. Is there a second? That's Miss Barber. Is there a second? Um Mr. Thomas, all in favor, please indicate. She now says she good night everybody. God bless you.