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    --- title: Planning Commission date: 2024-09-19 source: 2024-09-19_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:02]: Yeah, may I have a roll call please? [0:00:02, 0:00:05]: Yes. Stanley Dumas. Present. [0:00:05, 0:00:07]: Anthony Mitten. Present. [0:00:08, 0:00:12]: Carol Thibodeau. Present. David Planchan. [0:00:13, 0:00:15]: Jaden Williams. Present. [0:00:16, 0:00:19]: Matthew Thomas. Mr. Chairman, we have a quorum. [0:00:20, 0:00:21]: Thank you. Thank you very much. [0:00:24, 0:00:31]: Next item is the adoption of the agenda. I have one adjustment to make. Item number four. [0:00:32, 0:00:35]: On the agenda, I'd like to move to item number one. [0:00:41, 0:00:45]: And I need a motion to adopt the agenda with those changes, please. [0:00:51, 0:00:55]: Thursday, August fifty two twenty four agenda. [0:00:59, 0:01:06]: I would like to present a motion that we adopt the agenda for Thursday, August fifteenth, twenty twenty four. Nineteen. [0:01:07, 0:01:13]: Is it nineteenth? Yeah. Okay, I'm sorry, excuse me. Uh August nineteenth, twenty twenty four. [0:01:15, 0:01:17]: No, wait a minute. [0:01:19, 0:01:22]: Are you sure? September nineteenth. Okay. [0:01:22, 0:01:28]: I'd like to present a motion that we adopt the agenda for September nineteenth, twenty twenty four. [0:01:29, 0:01:48]: Second. It's been moved by Mr. Tribidor and second by Mr. Thomas that we adopt the the agenda. All in favor let it by nominally sound of it. Sure. All right. Before I vote, I had a question. Yes. Is there a reason why we're moving item number four? I will get to it in a moment, sir. [0:01:48, 0:01:50]: Okay, I I don't want to vote until uh [0:01:50, 0:01:57]: Come again. I don't want to vote on moving it until I get the reason. Oh, okay. That's fine. We have Mr [0:01:57, 0:02:03]: Thomas, Mr. Mutton, Mr. Thibodeau voted yea, and Mr. Williams abstained. [0:02:05, 0:02:12]: So the agenda is adopted. Please write for the record that I did not abstain. I wanted clarification on what I was voting for. It was not an abstention. [0:02:22, 0:02:31]: Next you have before you the minutes from the August 15th, 2024 Planning Commission. [0:02:32, 0:02:35]: You take a moment to peruse those. [0:02:36, 0:02:40]: And offer any necessary corrections if there be any. [0:02:46, 0:02:48]: I need a motion to approve, please. [0:02:52, 0:02:54]: Mr. Chairman, I make the motion to approve the minutes. [0:02:56, 0:02:56]: Is there a second? [0:02:57, 0:03:06]: I'm Harold, I'll second it. Did you get that, Ms. Logan? It's been moved by Mr. Mitten and seconded by Mr. Thibodeau. [0:03:07, 0:03:18]: That we approve the minutes from our previous meeting, August fifteenth, twenty twenty-four. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:03:20, 0:03:24]: It's unanimous. I have it. The men's [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: All proved. [0:03:32, 0:03:33]: Next I would like to [0:03:35, 0:03:40]: Thank Mr. Mitten for sitting in for me on our August meeting, my absence. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: I appreciate it. You did an excellent job. Thank you very much. [0:03:45, 0:03:45]: Okay. [0:03:49, 0:03:51]: Next we'll have new business. [0:03:52, 0:04:00]: And as I said, item number four, special use permit case, SP twenty twenty-four-01. [0:04:01, 0:04:18]: It's a consideration of a special use permit to allow a gas station and a convenience store on parcel zero three two zero one zero three zero zero one two on the west side of Rock Quarry Road across Hospital Drive. [0:04:21, 0:04:30]: The applicant is the GMI two incorporated. Agent is Harold Buckler Junior, Esquire of the Law Firm of Wilson, Brock and Irby. [0:04:30, 0:04:32]: The property is located [0:04:33, 0:04:50]: in land law 13 of district six and it contains four point two six acres more or less. It is my understanding that the applicant wishes to defer this case until a future date. [0:04:51, 0:04:54]: And if you would come forward and make that known to the commission. [0:05:02, 0:05:07]: Good evening, Mr Chair, members of the commission. Make sure your mic is on, please, and talk in the microphone. [0:05:09, 0:05:29]: Is that better? That is much better. Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the commission. My name is Steve Rothman, 2849 Paces Ferry Road, Atlanta, Georgia, three hundred three three nine. I'm filling in for my partner, Mr. Buckley, tonight. We are requesting a sixty-day deferral. The reason for the request is that we learned yesterday. [0:05:29, 0:05:39]: that this is a special use permit for a gasoline station, but we learned yesterday that there's a distance requirement separate from SUPs uh that [0:05:39, 0:05:59]: that it appears that we're too close to another gas station, but we need to pursue a survey, take a look at the situation. We just learned of this yesterday, so we'd like sixty days to iron that out. Um and so w I ha I'm happy to answer any questions, but that's the reason for the deferral. And I think we should have it wrapped up in within sixty days. [0:06:00, 0:06:00]: Thank you. [0:06:01, 0:06:03]: Thank you very much. Thank you. [0:06:06, 0:06:12]: Continued a motion from the council to defer special use case SP twenty twenty-four-zero one. [0:06:13, 0:06:19]: Chair motion to defer the case. Is there a sec? Chairman I vote second. [0:06:19, 0:06:29]: Mr. Williams has moved to defer the case. Mr. Mitten has seconded. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:06:31, 0:06:35]: It's unanimous. I have it. This case is deferred. [0:06:39, 0:06:41]: Mr. Williams, did that satisfy you, sir? [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: Chaos. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Thank you. [0:06:52, 0:07:11]: Next item is an adoption of a new land use and zoning maps with the city of Stockbridge. This is citywide. Consideration of a new twenty twenty four future land use and zoning maps, which has been prepared to reflect the city council's approval. [0:07:11, 0:07:14]: Of all property annexations. [0:07:14, 0:07:28]: De annexations and future land use designations and rezonings which has occurred since the last city council land use and zoning map approvals on May eighth, twenty twenty three. Miss Jackson, please. [0:07:32, 0:07:33]: You stating infamous taxon? [0:07:34, 0:07:37]: Yes, my name's Jordan Buchholz. I'm presenting [0:07:37, 0:07:39]: All right. Go right ahead, man. [0:07:40, 0:07:42]: Okay. Good evening, Mr. Chairman, Commission [0:07:43, 0:07:47]: Like I mentioned, my name's Jordan Buchholz. I am the GIS analyst for the city. [0:07:48, 0:07:50]: I'm here to present [0:07:50, 0:07:55]: The changes to the zoning map and future land use map that have happened since June of twenty twenty three. [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: Would you speak a little louder, please? [0:07:59, 0:07:59]: Can do. [0:08:01, 0:08:09]: So this is a table overview of all of the changes that have taken place. I will go into more detail about each change on the coming slides. [0:08:11, 0:08:13]: On June twelfth, twenty twenty three. [0:08:13, 0:08:22]: The approved changes made by council were the rezoning of two parcels from rural residential to [0:08:23, 0:08:25]: Uh multifamily residential. [0:08:25, 0:08:30]: And the future land use changes were from low density residential to high density residential. [0:08:32, 0:08:39]: On October ninth, three parcels were rezoned from rural residential or C One to suburban residential. [0:08:41, 0:08:52]: On november thirteenth, one parcel was rezoned from light industrial to multifamily residential, and the future land use designation was changed from light industrial to [0:08:52, 0:08:54]: High density residential. [0:08:54, 0:09:07]: And I forgot to mention there are maps to the right of the slides. On the top is the change of the zoning maps and the bottom is the change on the future land use maps. They are highlighted and outlined in a light blue color. [0:09:10, 0:09:15]: On December eleventh of twenty twenty three, there were two parcels annexed into the city. [0:09:16, 0:09:22]: And they were zoned as PUD and the future land use designation was high density mixed use. [0:09:23, 0:09:30]: Also on December eleventh there were two additional parcels annexed into the city with the zoning of [0:09:30, 0:09:35]: PUD and a future land use designation of high density residential. [0:09:37, 0:09:49]: On january eighth of twenty twenty four, there were four parcels annexed into the city with the zoning designation of suburban residential and a future land use designation of low density residential. [0:09:51, 0:10:03]: Four additional parcels were annexed in January of twenty twenty four with the zoning designation of PUD and the future land use designation of medium density mixed use. [0:10:04, 0:10:07]: February twelfth of twenty twenty four. [0:10:07, 0:10:21]: Two parcels were rezoned from suburban residential to multifamily residential, and the zoning desi or the future land use designation, excuse me, was changed from low density mixed use to special use. [0:10:22, 0:10:25]: Also on February twelfth. [0:10:26, 0:10:34]: There were five parcels rezoned from either OI and the future land use designation changed from low density residential to special use. [0:10:36, 0:10:43]: Additionally, there were ten parcels that were de annexed from the city. This was in Manderley subdivision, and you can see that outlined in red on the map. [0:10:45, 0:10:55]: So this is an overview of the entire map with all of the updated changes and this is what needs to be approved. So this is the zoning map. [0:10:55, 0:10:58]: and the updated future land use map. [0:10:58, 0:11:06]: So these are the two maps that we need to vote on to approve those changes. Please let me know if you have any questions. [0:11:08, 0:11:11]: Any questions from c from the commission? [0:11:12, 0:11:19]: No questions? I I have a question. I'm a little bit confused on this map change. Uh was this a public? [0:11:20, 0:11:20]: Big up please. [0:11:20, 0:11:33]: Uh I'm a little confused on this. Was this presented to the public or this is the first time that this map is brought up to to Yes, all of these changes were approved by council on the date specified on each slide. [0:11:37, 0:11:40]: Okay, thank you. This should have been just a presentation. [0:11:42, 0:11:47]: There's no need for a vote from um Planning Commission. There's no need for a vote? No. Thank you. [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Let me have a question. [0:11:53, 0:11:55]: Thank you, Jordan. Thank you. [0:12:02, 0:12:05]: not adopting the map today or is is it being so fun? [0:12:10, 0:12:17]: Ma'am, the public hearing hasn't started yet. When the when the public hearing starts, then you can just your comments. Thank you. [0:12:22, 0:12:26]: There will be a public hearing tonight on several cases. [0:12:27, 0:12:33]: Therefore I have a few protocol items that I need to make you aware of before we start. [0:12:34, 0:12:37]: Please listen closely to how tonight's meeting will be conducted. [0:12:40, 0:12:44]: We ask that you keep your comments and presentations on a professional level. [0:12:44, 0:12:48]: dealing with facts that are important for this commission to make a decision. [0:12:50, 0:13:00]: We will not be we will not accept comments that are considered to be by the chair to be personal attacks on any individual or groups of individuals. [0:13:01, 0:13:06]: You will receive a warning from the chair if you deviate from this requirement. [0:13:07, 0:13:13]: A second deviation will result in a request for you to leave the meeting and the premises for the evening. [0:13:15, 0:13:20]: Ask that you refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. [0:13:22, 0:13:24]: Only one person will be talking at a time. [0:13:25, 0:13:28]: And all comments will be made to the podium. [0:13:28, 0:13:31]: Uh after the speaker has been recognized by the chair. [0:13:33, 0:13:39]: Please direct all comments to the chair and the commission, not to the audience or the staff. [0:13:42, 0:13:45]: Please do not applaud or react to speakers. [0:13:46, 0:13:53]: Speak from the audience, cheer, or carry on a conversation with others in the audience. [0:13:54, 0:13:57]: or disrupt the order of the meeting in any way. [0:14:01, 0:14:03]: Be aware that these hearings are not a debate. [0:14:04, 0:14:14]: or an opportunity to ask questions which must be answered by any individual tonight, but are merely an opportunity to to present information to the Commission. [0:14:16, 0:14:20]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. [0:14:21, 0:14:22]: I'll say that again. [0:14:23, 0:14:25]: Other than the applicant. [0:14:25, 0:14:28]: No person may speak more than once but [0:14:29, 0:14:42]: The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. [0:14:43, 0:14:45]: Other than the applicant. [0:14:46, 0:14:48]: No person may speak longer than five minutes. [0:14:51, 0:14:58]: If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, I ask that you power them off. [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: Or put them in the silent mode. [0:15:04, 0:15:06]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight. [0:15:08, 0:15:17]: Please fill out a speaker's form, which is available on the table up front. Hand it to a staff member before approaching the podium. [0:15:21, 0:15:24]: After each item or case is called [0:15:25, 0:15:28]: We'll hear next from the c staff. [0:15:29, 0:15:32]: And then we'll hear from the applicant or their representative. [0:15:33, 0:15:40]: about what their plans for the property, along with any other relevant intro information they wish to present. [0:15:42, 0:15:45]: The commission members will be free to ask questions at any time. [0:15:46, 0:15:48]: before the vote on a project. [0:15:49, 0:15:55]: Following the applicant, anyone who wished to speak for or against the project. [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: Or to just ask questions. [0:15:58, 0:16:00]: will have the opportunity to do so. [0:16:02, 0:16:06]: Each side is restricted to a maximum of ten minutes. [0:16:07, 0:16:10]: Or time may be waived at the discretion of the presiding officer. [0:16:14, 0:16:19]: If questions are raised, we may ask that the applicant speak again. [0:16:21, 0:16:28]: After this we will call for a motion and a second. Have any necessary discussion, and if the matter is not tabled [0:16:30, 0:16:34]: We will vote to recommend approval or denial of the application. [0:16:36, 0:16:38]: The commission is only a recommended body. [0:16:40, 0:16:45]: The item will be heard by the mayor and council, whether we recommend approval or [0:16:45, 0:16:47]: Or recommend denial. [0:16:49, 0:16:53]: Unless there are me unless there are table unless they are table. [0:16:54, 0:17:01]: These items will be heard by the city m city's mayor and council at their meeting on Monday, October fourteenth. [0:17:03, 0:17:06]: And the items will be voted upon at that meeting. [0:17:10, 0:17:10]: Thank you. [0:17:14, 0:17:15]: The first case [0:17:17, 0:17:23]: Is the resulting case RZ twenty twenty four dash zero seven for Patrick Heron Master Plan? [0:17:24, 0:17:27]: be located in Council District five. [0:17:28, 0:17:32]: Consideration of the Patrick Henry Parkway Master Plan. [0:17:33, 0:17:37]: Which was presented, which was prepared, I'm sorry. [0:17:37, 0:17:40]: Paired by the T S W Consulting Firm. [0:17:41, 0:17:45]: It proposes a mixed mixture of retail commercial [0:17:46, 0:17:49]: Residential and entertainment uses [0:17:50, 0:17:53]: For areas along the southern end of Patrick Henry Parkway. [0:17:54, 0:17:57]: For some properties lying within the city. [0:17:58, 0:18:05]: within Stockbridge City limits and others lying within unincorporated Henry County. [0:18:08, 0:18:09]: That's to be presented by Ms. Jackson. [0:18:11, 0:18:13]: Good evening, Commissioners. [0:18:14, 0:18:34]: Before you, we have a citywide rezoning um located on Patrick Henry Parkway. Um as the chair read into record, um, well, I'll read into record the parcels that will be affected by this rezoning. Um so it will be parcels zero five two, zero one. [0:18:34, 0:18:54]: zero two two zero zero zero that consists of twenty nine point eight acres zero five two zero one zero three one zero zero one zero five two zero five two dash zero one zero two three zero zero two [0:18:54, 0:19:05]: Um they consist of six point sixteen acres, zero five three B as in boy, zero one zero three zero zero zero six. [0:19:06, 0:19:26]: Consist of ninety two acres, zero five three B zero one zero three zero zero zero seven consists of forty eight acres zero five three B zero one zero three zero zero zero eight consist of four point four zero. [0:19:26, 0:19:28]: Yeah. [0:19:28, 0:19:48]: Zero five two dash zero one zero three one zero zero zero consist of four point three zero acres and the last one is zero five two three B zero one zero three zero zero zero nine consist of zero point zero. [0:19:48, 0:20:07]: In total, the acreage is approximately 41.68 acres. These properties are zone RR, which is rural residential. The city is proposing to rezone these properties to PUD, which stands for Planning Unit Development for a Midst-Use Development. [0:20:09, 0:20:20]: So the majority of the construction in Stockbridge uh occurred between 1980 and 1999. At 50 percent um [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: followed by thirty five percent between two thousand and two thousand nine. [0:20:26, 0:20:46]: Only 10% or shall I say 11% between 2010 to 2019. I say all of this to say is that this development will definitely change the population of the city of Stockbridge. We are in need of new development, precisely misuse and commercial properties. [0:20:46, 0:21:06]: Many of our residents have to go outside of the city to for entertainment, sit-down restaurants. So this development will definitely present the goal that we're trying to seek. This development will also be beneficial to the residents of unincorporated Henry County as well. The population [0:21:06, 0:21:26]: Goals for the city is to protect and enhance the city's unique qualities while embracing growth and ensuring that all residents have access to critical services, safe and attractive neighborhoods, and work opportunities. We also have a goal of to maintain a friendly and [0:21:26, 0:21:31]: environment and focus on attracting and retaining young professionals. [0:21:36, 0:21:54]: So as mentioned earlier, the city is seeking to rezone the property from RR to PUD to allow for misuse development. The subject property is 41.68 acres, consists of eight parcels that were read into the record um minutes ago. [0:21:54, 0:22:02]: The properties are located in District 5, Landlot 46. There are various owners of these properties, and they are [0:22:03, 0:22:07]: in agreement and have assisted staff in the process of rezoning. [0:22:08, 0:22:28]: The surrounding zonings, as you can see in the staff report, does consist of PUD, multi multiple uh family residential. We have also single family surrounding these properties. Um in the unincorporated Henry County, um, there are single family. [0:22:28, 0:22:32]: Commercial um on the southeast portion. [0:22:33, 0:22:44]: From this property is a PUDC2, which is general commercial. And on the west side, outside of the city, there is a zoning of RD and RM. [0:22:44, 0:22:47]: Um, which is a residential duplex. [0:22:47, 0:22:50]: And Residential Multifamily by Henry County. [0:22:51, 0:22:53]: And on the south east corner. [0:22:53, 0:22:59]: Also outside of the city, the properties don't see too commercial in Henry County. [0:23:00, 0:23:07]: The current land use designation is high density misuse, so therefore the city will not need to make changes to the land use designation. [0:23:09, 0:23:29]: To the southern eastern portion of the north, Patrick Henry Parkway, adjacent to I-75, is where this property sit. Um, it is also at the end point of Holloway Road. That's where um the property ends. This properties are vacant now, mostly wooded. Um so again, we [0:23:29, 0:23:31]: [1411.9, 1431.9]: Build a mixed use development that will consist of hotels, townhomes, single family homes, um also offices, commercial, retail. Um, just have that mixed use feel to the city, um, definitely bringing uh variety, bringing um different [0:23:51, 0:24:01]: land uses um to coincide with the area um to where it is headed as far as mixed use commercial. [0:24:04, 0:24:07]: So before you is the site plan. [0:24:08, 0:24:15]: As you can see here, that list the proposed development as well as the parcel numbers, the district. [0:24:17, 0:24:25]: And as you can see, um it is color coded. So I will attempt to read it to you. Um [0:24:26, 0:24:46]: The yellow part right now is showing apartments, but we may or may not do apartments in this area. We will focus on single family and townhomes. So this could change before development starts. So just FYI. You also have single [0:24:46, 0:24:57]: So family and townhomes to the south portion of the development. Um and I'll just go to the next screen so you can um [0:24:59, 0:25:08]: Look at the variations of the site plan before you. Again, these are conceptual plans. They're not final plans. [0:25:11, 0:25:26]: This is an aerial view of the map, um, pinpointing the properties that are in discussion tonight. So as you can see the red stars, um these are the two parcels that we are discussing as far as rezoning. [0:25:30, 0:25:36]: This is a zoning map of the parcels. As you can see, they are light yellow. [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: Um which is a indication of rural residential. [0:25:40, 0:25:45]: And the red arrow is just showing you where Holloway Road is located. [0:25:51, 0:26:11]: Before you is the Holloway Road at the endpoint of the properties, just to give you a idea what that area looks like. Um it's a little different today, but um if you look to your right, um if you're familiar with the racetrack gas station, that's where that that is located. [0:26:17, 0:26:22]: Again area view of the map with outline property. [0:26:26, 0:26:32]: This is the future land use designation as it is today, high density misuse. [0:26:36, 0:26:42]: And the next few slides are just concepts of what the development could look like. [0:26:47, 0:26:55]: So the city is definitely invested in bringing beautification to the city. Again, more uses, commercial uses, mixed uses. [0:26:56, 0:27:06]: This will bring jobs to both Stockbridge and Henry County as there will be commercial development, retail stores. [0:27:09, 0:27:25]: The city is looking for a vote tonight so that we can move this to city council on October fourteenth. Excuse me, October fourteenth. Um we are asking or seeking an approval. This concludes the presentation for tonight. [0:27:26, 0:27:27]: Thank you, Miss Jackson. [0:27:29, 0:27:31]: Any questions from the commission, please? [0:27:32, 0:27:39]: Actually, uh Mr. Chairman, I have a comment go right in and a question. So Miss Jackson, thank you first off. Um [0:27:40, 0:28:00]: I would very much be against the apartments. It seems like an unhealthy mix, personally. Uh I'd rather see townhomes, though I mixed on that myself. Secondly, the one third being retail, hotel, restaurant. Um you already have a healthy interest from retailers? [0:28:00, 0:28:07]: A particular hotel brand, anyone that is very interested in this, given the building that's taking place currently on Johtoco Road. [0:28:09, 0:28:29]: We do actually. We've had uh several um retailers companies to um show interest in this area. Um I'm not at liberty to discuss who they are. That's understood. Um nothing is finalized, but yes, to answer your question. Okay. Thank you. Yes, yes. Uh [0:28:29, 0:28:32]: Uh when it comes to entertainment, what type of entertainment uh [0:28:34, 0:28:54]: You're gonna love it. I can't tell you what it is. Um, it is an assigned exciting development. Um the city has been working on this for a few years. So now we're in the process of moving forward. I will say that um the same developers that did the bridges of Johtaco will be involved in this development. [0:28:54, 0:28:55]: Yeah. [0:28:57, 0:28:59]: Do you have a question? [0:28:59, 0:29:18]: Thank you again, Ms. Jackson. Um, I I have to agree with my colleague, looking at it overall, it kinda gives a chaotic state, just looking at it. Um, so do you all still want us to vote on it whether you guys do the apartments or not? Cause if we vote on it now, then it would be the recommendation of adding the apartments. [0:29:21, 0:29:35]: So this is a concept plan. Um the city has it is zoned PUD, so PUD will allow for these uses, whether we go with the apartments or the townhomes. Um I will say [0:29:35, 0:29:55]: Um is probably high highly that we will not go with the apartments. But again, this is a concept plan that was constructed at the time um thoughts went into this development. Okay. Uh thank you for that. I know the city manager came last meeting and kind of gave us an [0:29:55, 0:30:13]: overview. He did discuss something else coming in the project and taking out the if you go back to the map for the public, um taking out the single family and town host townhomes in the south, um, for something else to go there. Is that in effect or is it gonna stay as is on the map? [0:30:14, 0:30:16]: In regards to that that portion. [0:30:16, 0:30:35]: You are correct. The city manager um has more information regarding this development as he is one of the creators. Excuse me. He is one of the creators for this development. So I apologize. I'm not at liberty to say yay or nay. Um, but it is a possibility there could be [0:30:36, 0:30:54]: um a rearrangement, the single family could go at the top, vice versa, but at this time, um I believe townhomes, we are wanting to do a mixed use development that consists of r residential. So it is a possibility um the layout could change. [0:30:55, 0:30:56]: Okay. [0:30:56, 0:31:16]: Okay. I understand. Um, the development looking at the map, two was my last two. Is it correct that there's two or five rather entrances and exits inside of the plan? And then does the development go all the way up to the true by uh true hotel that's being built as well at the top of Patrick King? [0:31:16, 0:31:17]: Yeah. [0:31:17, 0:31:30]: Sure. Um it doesn't go all the way up to the true. So as you can see here, this is um Hollow Holloway Road and my cursor's not showing, but um if you see the red [0:31:31, 0:31:51]: Semicircle, it's not a semicircle, but the red dot, uh, for lap lack of better word. This is Holloway Road, and right below it is racetrack. I'm just trying to give you a visual. Yeah, if you move upward, um, this is the beginning point. So remember in 2019, I believe the [0:31:51, 0:32:02]: That was a previous rezoning of the property above it. Um, so it ends right there. Well, it starts right there and it ends at Holloway Road. [0:32:03, 0:32:06]: So true is further north. [0:32:13, 0:32:15]: Any more questions? [0:32:15, 0:32:15]: Mm-hmm. [0:32:15, 0:32:34]: May I speak. Mr. Chairman. Uh Ms. Jackson, could you explain exactly what a concept means when you do a layout like this? And also that area used to be an overlay district long time ago. Uh we also have an elderly uh [0:32:36, 0:32:45]: home that's coming down on that segment also on that particular end across from Georgia power also in that area. [0:32:45, 0:32:53]: We also have a hotel coming in that area also, but it's on the opposite end of what you're showing here on this map. [0:32:53, 0:33:13]: I I think uh the the issue that I'm seeing here is that we don't understand at least I don't ex understand exactly what what are you referring to as a concept map. If could you explain that please? Sure. A concept is uh like a vision. [0:33:13, 0:33:33]: You have a visual what you want to build, and you place that visual onto paper. So you may say, Well, I want landscaping here, I want um garage over there, um, I'm going to put my sidewalk. [0:33:33, 0:33:53]: Walk this way. So it's just a concept. It's not a final drawing of what you're proposing to build, but it gives the viewer or the reviewer. Um, in my case, I will be reviewing this. It gives me an idea of how you're gonna lay out your property, how you're gonna uh [0:33:53, 0:34:13]: Set up your setbacks, your height, the height of the building, um, what building materials you're going to go with for this development. So that's what a concept is. Again, we understand concepts change once you start your land disturbance. [0:34:13, 0:34:18]: and your grading that may change depending on the topography of the land. [0:34:20, 0:34:29]: So you're basically saying that this map is not concrete to what they m may do on this particular property. Am I correct to say that? [0:34:30, 0:34:50]: This may not be the final layout, but it's definitely concrete in terms of uses. So if the public is sitting here listening to this, then they may have questions to say. We don't want this or we don't want that. So that would be a concept with as far as what they want here and what [0:34:50, 0:34:51]: What they don't want there. [0:34:52, 0:34:57]: That is true. Um, however this is in the works. So I [0:34:58, 0:35:01]: And forgive me, city manager, if I say it wrong. [0:35:03, 0:35:05]: It's a high possibility is going to happen. [0:35:07, 0:35:27]: All right. Thank you, Ms. Jackson. You're welcome. Chair, if I may I have one more question. Go right ahead, sir. Um, Ms. Jackson, I'm looking at the the concept plan that was just given to us and then trying to defer back to the one given to us last meeting. Um, are we is the potential car dealership site if a [0:35:27, 0:35:31]: Allowed by zoning, is that being added concrete as well? [0:35:32, 0:35:33]: to this development. [0:35:33, 0:35:52]: So the car dealership I do not believe is going to happen. Um we have an alternative idea or plan that that is currently in the words. So is is it may not happen. Okay, perfect. Thank you. You're welcome. [0:35:56, 0:35:57]: Any more comments? [0:35:59, 0:36:06]: I just need to be clear, Miss Jackson. Exactly what are you asking us to do? Um [0:36:07, 0:36:26]: You asking us to approve the parkway master plan or you asked us to approve rezoning? I'm asking you to approve the rezoning. Okay. Now from what I have in front of me, there's eight parcels and I also understand that not all of the parcels are in [0:36:28, 0:36:29]: The city of Stobre. [0:36:32, 0:36:34]: So yes they are. [0:36:40, 0:36:45]: May I speak to you? In your agenda you say it and I'm gonna read what I see here. [0:36:47, 0:36:56]: It proposes a mixture of retail, commercial, residential, and entertainment uses for areas along the southern end of Patrick Evan Parkway. [0:36:57, 0:37:00]: Will some properties lying within the city limits? [0:37:00, 0:37:03]: And others lying within unincorporated Henry County. [0:37:04, 0:37:07]: Right. So the agenda. [0:37:08, 0:37:17]: Okay. So I'll be clear. Um, as I was stating before, the properties to the south, um, near Holloway Road, those are [0:37:18, 0:37:38]: Unincorporated Henry County. So yes, there are some unincorporated properties surrounding this. Like for instance, across the street, that is unincorporated Henry County. So I'm giving you direction as to where those properties are. So I'm giving you north, south, east, west, wet properties. [0:37:38, 0:37:40]: properties are surrounding these properties. [0:37:44, 0:37:49]: So of the eight parcels that you list in your staff report. [0:37:50, 0:37:53]: All eight of these lie in the city of Stockbridge. [0:37:53, 0:37:53]: Yes, sir. [0:37:58, 0:38:08]: We are not um able to rezone properties that are not in the jurisdiction or city limits of City of Subbridge. I'm with you on that. [0:38:09, 0:38:14]: I guess the the confusion I have the the map doesn't delineate [0:38:17, 0:38:20]: Which part of just development lies in the city and which part doesn't? [0:38:21, 0:38:34]: Okay. So if we go back to the screen that had the outline, so this is the future land use map. This shows the outline of the properties. Everything is outlined is in the city of Stockbridge. [0:38:36, 0:38:39]: And that consists of eight parts? Yes, sir. [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: Thank you. [0:38:42, 0:38:42]: Sure. [0:38:43, 0:38:56]: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to ask a question. Go right ahead. So then the the bottom portion portion here, uh, is there a plan by the city to try to annex that? And would there be changes to it based on the annexation? [0:38:57, 0:39:04]: Are you referring to Holloway Road? Yes. South of the uh road that's no longer in use or that was decommissioned for lack of a better word. [0:39:05, 0:39:08]: There are no plans to annex that portion. [0:39:10, 0:39:11]: All right, thank you. [0:39:18, 0:39:20]: One other question, Miss Jackson. [0:39:21, 0:39:34]: And I don't remember what meeting it was, but it's my recollection this parcel, these parcels came before us not too long ago for rezoning. Am I correct? [0:39:35, 0:39:41]: I believe you're referring to the annexation. There were four parcels. Is that perhaps. [0:39:41, 0:39:43]: Okay. Um [0:39:44, 0:40:04]: I can't remember what month. I may it may have been in July or June. There were there was a presentation that came before you regarding four properties on Holloway Road. Um the Henry County Board of Commissioners denied that annexation. However, um [0:40:04, 0:40:14]: Well, they denied the DNS station from Henry County. However, that applicant still wants to continue. So it will come back before you at a future date. [0:40:18, 0:40:19]: Okay. [0:40:23, 0:40:25]: Any more questions, comments from the Commission? [0:40:31, 0:40:32]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: You're welcome. [0:40:35, 0:40:37]: Is there someone here representing the African? [0:40:41, 0:40:42]: You there. [0:40:43, 0:40:44]: The CDU is the applicant. [0:40:46, 0:40:51]: So I guess we can open this up for public comments, the public hearing. [0:40:52, 0:40:55]: Mayor, would you take your seat till I call on you, please? Thank you. [0:40:59, 0:41:07]: What we're gonna do, we're gonna first ask for is there anyone here that's in favor of this development? [0:41:08, 0:41:12]: We ask that you fill out a form and approach the podium. [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: Make you can wince. [0:41:18, 0:41:24]: If there are not anyone in here in favor of it, then I wanna ask if there are anyone here opposed to it. [0:41:25, 0:41:31]: And I would ask you to do the same thing. Fill out a form, approach the podium, and make your comments. [0:41:37, 0:41:38]: You're good. [0:41:46, 0:41:51]: If you will give us your name and address before making your comments. Thank you. [0:42:03, 0:42:23]: My name is Connie Snow and I live at 426 Chase Marion Way, McDonough, Georgia. It's actually in the Eagles Crest subdivision, which is off Holloway. I wanna address a couple of things first. Um I've lived at my home for 20 years. In fact, my son's right here. It's the only home he's ever known. He went [0:42:22, 0:42:42]: So he graduated from Eagles Landing High School. This young lady's his girlfriend. She's from this area as well. They've watched this area develop and change. What's really sad to me is I remember when he was in elementary school, he came home one day so excited because he had learned something at Flippin' Elementary about the uh Native American Indians that lived off a patch of. [0:42:42, 0:42:56]: Patrick Henry and the reason why they did is because of the creeks and the streams and how they could survive off eating off the land there. There's tons of creeks and streams still in that area. And by building this development, we're gonna endanger that ecosystem. [0:42:58, 0:43:18]: Massively. Um, some other things I want to touch on real quick. Um, so you say we're not a part of the city of Stockbridge and there's no plan to annex us, but that's not true. Per SB 612, which if you look it up and you look at the parcels list in it, my neighborhood and that parcel ID is on there for the list. [0:43:18, 0:43:38]: List of potential annexations, something that I'm pretty sure was not on my ballot to vote for, but that's for another day or another time. Um additionally, I've spoken on this property about four or five different times that we've had meetings and we keep going back and forth. We were told they were investors, developers, what have you, but tonight we've been told [0:43:38, 0:43:58]: Is the city. So nobody's really been clear to us on the intents or the plans. They've changed multiple times. Additionally, some other things that are very troubling to me that I want to bring up too is the fact that this development is in walking distance of three schools. My home sits directly behind Eagles Landing High School in the [0:43:58, 0:44:18]: football field and the vast majority of the students in that neighborhood in the surrounding area and middle and high school walk to and from school. I have brought that up several times in every meeting, so much so that last year at one of the meetings, the mayor told me that why he cares about the kids because the school is on county land. It wasn't essentially [0:44:17, 0:44:37]: His problem. Not his exact words, but that's what he said. Please go back and look at the tapes. You'll see it for yourself. Here's what's going to happen: we're going to keep building. We're going to damage our ecosystem because there's so much water around there. And because of all that development, it's going to end up flooding my neighborhood, the other houses, the schools. Again, there's Eagles Landing, Middle School. [0:44:37, 0:44:48]: School, high school, and Fliplin Elementary, as well as NOAA's Art Daycare and a private school church that's over there. So we're gonna damage a lot of stuff by doing this. [0:44:49, 0:45:09]: Another thing, um, in twenty eighteen we were rezoned without our knowledge. We found that out through my battle over this development last year. And we were rezoned for the rehabilitation center listed on Patrick H Henry. It should be interesting to know that the person over that is Southern Consulting, also known as Jeff Grant. [0:45:09, 0:45:29]: It should also be interesting to know that Jeff Grant's over the development of the bridges of Jodico. He served five years in pr prison for development fraud in the state of Georgia, relating to the timber industry. And in 2013, he served a civil suit for bank fraud and forgery and development crimes for something off mill. [0:45:29, 0:45:49]: Road that the Henry County citizens had to pay for. So I I have to ask this question: why do we keep approving these criminals to build faulty bills and development? The applicant you have listed is Lenar Holmes. In 2018, Lennar Holmes was served with a civil lawsuit. And that civil lawsuit, it was alleged. [0:45:49, 0:46:02]: that they had defective construction, faulty plumb plumbing, and construction defects that led to safety concerns and injuries injuries injuries, among other civil lawsuits due to faulty bills. [0:46:05, 0:46:25]: I see um Southern Consulting also works with property owners such as the Chen family, who was a part of the Bridges of Jodico, and I do believe he works with the Patels, who are some of the applicants on these as well. Here's what's gonna happen. Clayton County lost their accreditation, their school accreditation to these same developers years ago. They're still recovering. [0:46:25, 0:46:45]: Property owners' values went completely down. And it's the same people like Jeff Grant, Tim Jones, and all these others that were involved that caused that. And we as a county are now approving that. I don't know if you've looked at the recent data, but Eagles Landing High and Middle are failing, man. And so are most of our Henry County schools. Once those schools fill, [0:46:45, 0:46:56]: Our property value crumples. Additionally, the goal of the city of Stockbridge is to tad my home out and put me in a blighted district. My neighborhood's not blighted. [0:46:56, 0:47:16]: Yeah, I've got some homeowners that probably should cut their grass and not do the things that they do, but it's not blighted. And he's gonna do that, the stock bridge is gonna do that by building this development and everything else you're talking about in order to decrease every property owner's value in there. And currently there's forty-eight percent ownership, with a majority of that ownership being [0:47:16, 0:47:21]: senior citizens. So essentially this is another form of imminent domain happening to us. [0:47:22, 0:47:42]: I know you guys can say no and they're still going to improve it, but I want it on the record today that the people that are behind this development is Jeff Grant from Southern Consulting. He is what paved the way for the FLMU to be changed in 2023. We were secretly put on SB612 without our knowledge. We were not. [0:47:42, 0:47:58]: told at previous meetings that the city of Stockbridge was the lead development over this. I want to also be noted that Southern Consulting donates a lot to certain persons, charity on this committee. With that being said, that's all I have to say. Thank you. [0:47:59, 0:48:01]: Thank you. Is there anyone else? [0:48:06, 0:48:10]: There's no one else in the public hearing for this case it's closed. [0:48:24, 0:48:26]: Mr. Chair, may I [0:48:27, 0:48:28]: Go right in here. [0:48:29, 0:48:49]: I just want to point out that Miss Snow does not live in the city of Stockbridge. She lives in unincorporated Herring County. Her property is near Eagles Landing High School. We are not intending to rezone or in annex those properties within the city. So I just want that to be clear. [0:48:49, 0:49:00]: As far as the statements made about the flooding, she spoke with Mr. Gartner at the last presentation that was made, and he addressed that to her. [0:49:02, 0:49:03]: I yield. [0:49:04, 0:49:04]: Yeah. [0:49:05, 0:49:08]: May I speak, Mr. Chairman? Go ahead ahead, sir. [0:49:08, 0:49:14]: Um, I I kinda heard him mention something about uh Indian [0:49:14, 0:49:21]: area uh in that segment that we're talking about. Is there any form of Indian burial ground in that area? [0:49:21, 0:49:23]: That's the first taxing on the acknowledgement. [0:49:24, 0:49:25]: May I please? [0:49:28, 0:49:35]: I I'm just asking the question to see if there's anything that's valid and in reference to that, if you don't mind. [0:49:36, 0:49:38]: Not to my knowledge, Mr. Tippodeau. [0:49:40, 0:49:40]: All right, thank you. [0:49:45, 0:49:48]: I need a motion please from the co commission. [0:49:48, 0:49:49]: Yes, Mr. Chairman. [0:49:50, 0:49:52]: I would like to make a motion of that we [0:49:54, 0:49:55]: Read on case. [0:50:00, 0:50:01]: Four. That's why seven. [0:50:04, 0:50:05]: Is is there a second? [0:50:12, 0:50:19]: Mr. Chairman, I second the motion. It's been moved by Mr. Thomas and seconded by Mr. Meaden. [0:50:21, 0:50:26]: That we approve case R Z twenty twenty four dash zero seven. [0:50:26, 0:50:29]: All in favour let it be known by the sound of I [0:50:29, 0:50:32]: No. [0:50:35, 0:50:47]: We have Mr. Thomas, Mr. Mitton, and Mr. Williams voting in favor of approval. Mr. Thibodeau voted against approval. [0:50:48, 0:50:49]: No, I didn't vote against it. [0:50:50, 0:51:01]: I'm sorry. I didn't vote against it. Did you vote at all? Yeah, I did vote. You voted in favor? Yes. Okay. Then it's unanimous. We have four yes and zero nays. [0:51:02, 0:51:04]: May I speak, Mr. Chair? [0:51:04, 0:51:05]: Yes, you may. [0:51:05, 0:51:08]: even though we we made uh [0:51:08, 0:51:26]: pass this or whatever however you want to call it. At the end of the day, this board does not have the last say so when it comes to any ruling that we make. It is the city council that can approve or not approve anything that we may pass for whatever reason. [0:51:28, 0:51:29]: Thank you, Mr. Turbano. [0:51:32, 0:51:33]: Next case is [0:51:35, 0:51:40]: Text amendment case TX twenty twenty four dash zero five. [0:51:40, 0:51:41]: City wide. [0:51:42, 0:51:44]: So consideration of a text amendment [0:51:44, 0:51:48]: to section two point four point four [0:51:49, 0:51:53]: of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code, the UDC [0:51:56, 0:52:03]: to modify and augment the regulations for a multiple family residential zoning district. [0:52:04, 0:52:05]: This Jackson Police. [0:52:06, 0:52:15]: Greetings again, Planning Commissioners. Um, thank you for allowing me to come before you to present to you. [0:52:16, 0:52:35]: The regulations in regards to multiple family residential district. Um, as you read into the record, this contains to section two point four point four and what the intent here is to modify this district to allow [0:52:35, 0:52:55]: um additions to various sections of the UDC and to um create a more um acceptable building standards. So section one of this district states that various sections, well there's various sections in the UDC [0:52:55, 0:53:02]: um that needs to be amended. One is the entitled multiple family residential district. [0:53:02, 0:53:07]: to a be to be amended to add another section under it. [0:53:07, 0:53:27]: As multiple family residential district design guidelines. Also, section 2.4.4. We are looking to amend a section titled Yard Setbacks, and we want it to read minimum front yard setback 30 feet. So as you are [0:53:27, 0:53:47]: aware um variances has come before you where developers have asked to reduce the front yard setback from 50 feet to 30 feet. One came before you last month where you well you denied it. But there were others that has come before you and you've approved [0:53:47, 0:54:07]: those requests. And we get a lot of those. So what we're wanting to do is amend this zoning district to allow for a more comfortable build with um developers um just to present a more um not restrictive development, if that makes sense to you. [0:54:07, 0:54:27]: And as you can see, this is the UDC portion that states what the structure should look like from the street. And I believe it's in your staff report as well, where this building is sitting 50 feet from the street. [0:54:27, 0:54:42]: MFR allows for townhomes, multiple family apartments. Sitting that sitting that building that far from the street does create more impervious surface, which could [0:54:43, 0:55:01]: create a hardship for the developer. Um most districts have a certain percentage of impervious surface that you cannot exceed. Um this could create a hardship for one who has to build that far from the street. So bringing it closer will [0:55:01, 0:55:07]: have less pavement, less impervious, um, that can use that for more beautification. [0:55:08, 0:55:10]: um of that building. [0:55:14, 0:55:34]: So again, I mentioned the front yard being reduced from 50 feet to 30, where other changes we're making is to add the requirement of flock cameras. Um again, before you variances or rezonings have come before you where we'll add that condition. Now this will be [0:55:34, 0:55:52]: just a requirement. That condition will no longer be needed. Flock cameras will be required when you're building townhomes on multiple family developments. Multi-use paths, we want to change that from eight feet to 10 feet. [0:55:53, 0:56:08]: Central garbage facility. We want to provide centralized garbage facilities for garbage and refuse collections for a certain number of units or percentage of the units. [0:56:09, 0:56:14]: Implement implementation of the JohtoCo design standards. [0:56:14, 0:56:34]: was used as to come up with these design standards. Um that came before you, I believe, in 2019, where there were design standards um created for the bridges of Jotaco. We're just pulling some of those standards and putting it into our MFR [0:56:34, 0:56:35]: Our district. [0:56:38, 0:56:43]: So in your staff report is a um sheet titled exhibit A. [0:56:45, 0:56:52]: you'll see these are current standards as well as proposed standards. [0:56:58, 0:57:18]: So the front yard setback was one. We're also changing the side yard setback from 15 feet to 10 feet. Currently, our code states that the side yard has to be 15 feet and there must be 20 feet between the buildings. Mathematically, it doesn't make sense. So we're drawing. [0:57:18, 0:57:26]: Dropping the side yard to 10 feet so that you can have that easy transition of 20 feet between the buildings. [0:57:27, 0:57:41]: Also in the minimum living area section of Exhibit A, um, previously you saw that the studio is 800 square feet, whereas the one bedroom was 650 square feet. [0:57:42, 0:57:49]: That didn't make sense either. So we decided to make amendments to that, just switch it around, whereas the studio [0:57:49, 0:57:57]: now has a minimum square footage of six hundred and fifty, whereas the one bedroom would now be eight hundred square feet. [0:58:00, 0:58:20]: And I've already mentioned the multi-use paths as well as the garbage facility. And I mentioned the flock cameras. Um, below that are some of the architectural language from the bridges of Johtaco. Again, we're just kind of snipping that from that um development. [0:58:20, 0:58:39]: In inserting it in the MFR district. So we do ask that you approve these changes and so that way we can reduce some of the variances and allow for more beautiful development of townhomes. Thank you. [0:58:39, 0:58:40]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [0:58:43, 0:58:44]: Any comments from the Commission? [0:58:48, 0:58:48]: No comments? [0:58:50, 0:58:52]: Mr. Anderson, does this require public hearing? [0:58:54, 0:59:00]: Yes, it w it w it will require a public hear hearing um tonight and at city council. Okay. [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: And in that case the floor is now open for public comments. [0:59:07, 0:59:25]: I'm gonna ask anyone who wishes to s speak regarding the Text Amendment case twenty twenty four-zero five, if you would uh fill out a form if you haven't already done so. Approach the podium and give them your name and address and make your comments. [0:59:29, 0:59:32]: Seeing none, the public hearing is now closed. [0:59:35, 0:59:45]: I need a motion from the council, please. Chair. Go ahead and yes, sir. Motion to approve text amendment case TX dash two hundred and twenty four dash oh five citywide. [0:59:45, 0:59:47]: Is there a second? Second. [0:59:48, 0:59:51]: Mr. Williams has made a motion to approve. [0:59:53, 0:59:55]: Mr. Thomas has second the motion. [0:59:56, 0:59:58]: All in favour, let it be known by the sound of I. [0:59:59, 0:59:59]: Uh. [1:00:00, 1:00:01]: Email poles. [1:00:03, 1:00:05]: It's unanimous eyes have it. [1:00:06, 1:00:08]: The text from the case is approved. [1:00:09, 1:00:09]: Thank you. [1:00:16, 1:00:23]: Next item is a special use permit case SP twenty twenty four-zero two to be located in Council District Four. [1:00:26, 1:00:27]: Consideration of a [1:00:28, 1:00:30]: Special use permit to allow a liquor store. [1:00:31, 1:00:34]: On the property at one hundred six Rock Quarry Road. [1:00:35, 1:00:38]: Applicant GRP L C [1:00:39, 1:00:43]: The agent is the Gershkumar Patel. [1:00:44, 1:00:55]: Property is located in Land Lot sixty two of District twelve. It contains point eight nine acres more or less. Mr. Linton, please. [1:01:00, 1:01:11]: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um the presentation I will be making tonight is S B twenty four dash zero two, which is for a special use permit for a proposed liquor store at one oh six Rock Cory Road. [1:01:15, 1:01:35]: The case facts. The applicant is GRP LLC. The owner is North Eagle Pavilion LLC. The agent is Gorish Kumar Patel. And as mentioned, the address of the property is 106 Rock Court Road, with the number of acres being 0.89. As far as the project characteristics, there is the [1:01:35, 1:01:36]: An existing building. [1:01:38, 1:01:49]: With an existing business on the property, the current future land use designation is Low Density Mixed Use and it has a current zoning of C two and the sign was posted on august twenty first, twenty twenty four. [1:01:51, 1:02:02]: And this is the vicinity map and here highlighted is one um the building and they will be utilizing the other building um adjacent which is located in the green star. [1:02:08, 1:02:10]: And this is the aerial photo with the side plan. [1:02:16, 1:02:20]: And this is when we posted the sign on august twenty first, twenty twenty four. [1:02:24, 1:02:25]: And this is the zoning map. [1:02:27, 1:02:39]: The subject property is currently surrounded by C2, LI, which is light industrial, heavy industrial, MFR, which is multifamily residential, and OI, which is office institution. [1:02:41, 1:02:50]: And this is the future land use map. The subject property is surrounded by the D T on the left, low density mixed use, and heavy industrial, which is located below. [1:02:53, 1:03:13]: So, to give you a backstory on the uh application, um the city recently had a lottery applic application for 45 business days to award two additional alcohol before this licenses due to the recent growth of the city population. The applicant was awarded on July 30, 2024, and applied. [1:03:13, 1:03:27]: Apply for a special use permit uh in August. So right now, right before you is the map of the existing liquor stores. Uh currently there are four with um which are highlighted in red, and the one in green is the proposed liquor store. [1:03:32, 1:03:52]: And so we did a comparative analysis to look at the current uh liquor stores and compared it with the proposed liquor store. And the zoning, um, all of them are C2. And the current future land use, uh, except for JJ liquor store, is medium density mixed use, while the rest are low density mixed use. And this [1:03:52, 1:04:00]: Square footage, they aligns with the uh the proposed to use aligns with the current um liquor stores. And as far as the number of parker spaces, they align as well. [1:04:02, 1:04:10]: And so this is the liquor store uh the Stockbridge Bottle Shop, which is located at five zero three nine North Harrington Boulevard, Suite C. [1:04:12, 1:04:18]: This is the other liquor store, uh, Eagles Landing bottle shop, located at one hundred Eagle Landing Parkway. [1:04:21, 1:04:25]: This is the JJ Liquor Store located at 1590 Hudson Bridge Road. [1:04:26, 1:04:31]: And this is the Highway one hundred thirty eight package store located at twenty twenty eight Highway one thirty eight West. [1:04:35, 1:04:51]: The zoning history of the property. The subject property was rezoned from R three residential to C two General Commercial on January twenty ninth, two thousand one, upon the request of OPM properties, the intent of the request for for a retail slash warehouse building. [1:04:54, 1:05:14]: The proposed uh development information. GRP LLC is seeking a special use permit to convert a twelve thousand five hundred foot square foot building at one hundred six Rockquarry Road into a liquor store. The planned improvements include resurfing the parking lots, enhancing landscaping, adding brick facades, and installing [1:05:14, 1:05:32]: The project is expected to be completed by December 25th, 2024. The property is zone C2, which permits the castore under section 2.49 of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code and must comply with the development standards. [1:05:37, 1:05:40]: And this is the side plan showing the two buildings that they'll be utilizing. [1:05:45, 1:05:48]: And this is the rendering of the building once it'll be complete. [1:05:53, 1:06:13]: And so we did uh we we looked at the other regulations that's relevant to request. We looked at OR twenty-four five six three, section two point five two C and two point five two D of the Parquet Mix Use Overlay District. We also looked at the OR twenty-four five six zero, which is certain business require certain businesses. [1:06:13, 1:06:27]: And chapter 9.04070, license district restrictions, section 9.25, requirements for the special use permits, and section 9.26, which is a use permit consideration. [1:06:32, 1:06:40]: And so we looked at OR, as mentioned, OR five six three, section two point five D of the Parkway Mixed Overlay District. [1:06:40, 1:06:53]: Currently the subject property is in the Parkoway Mixed Use Overlay District, and the Stockbridge City Council passed a text amendment on May 13, 2024, which amended the PA the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay Guidelines. [1:06:56, 1:07:16]: And the proposed liquor store complies with section 2.52C as a select use. The key points to highlight is that the property fronts Rock Cory Road, which is classified as a minor arterial road by the Georgia Department of Transportation, is Zone C2, which permits liquor stores. The proposed liquor store will feature brick [1:07:16, 1:07:25]: Facade on all sides, which meets the required improvements, and the store will utilize the existing internal lane for access and internal circulation. [1:07:29, 1:07:35]: We also looked at OR twenty four five six zero certain businesses, uh section B. [1:07:37, 1:07:57]: Which was an ordinance that was passed by Mayor Council on march twenty sixth, twenty seventy four, which specifies that a liquor store must occupy at least six thousand square feet to be eligible for a license. The proced liquor store at one hundred six Rockware Road, with a total area of twelve thousand five hundred square feet, exceed this requirement and thus complies with the OR twenty four five six zero. [1:08:03, 1:08:10]: And we also mentioned the chapter nine point zero four zero seven zero, which is the licensed dist distance restrictions. [1:08:11, 1:08:31]: Um the churches, the alcohol sales are prohibited with within one hundred yards of any church. The three nearby churches are between three hundred forty-six and four hundred and eighty-eight yards away, which meets this requirement. As far as the schools, which states that it cannot be cannot occur within two hundred yards of any school. [1:08:31, 1:08:51]: Bridge Elementary School and Faith Academy are 629 and 429 yards away, respectively complying with this rule. And alcohol treatment centers, sales are prohibited within 100 yards of any state, county, municipally owned alcohol treatment center. HealthQuest Frontiers of Stockbridge is two point. [1:08:51, 1:08:54]: six miles away, thus meeting this requirement. [1:08:59, 1:09:12]: And it also mentioned the liquor stores. Distilled splits cannot be sold within five hundred feet of another lights in liquor store. The nearest liquor store is five thousand seven hundred five feet away, does complying with this regulation. [1:09:16, 1:09:21]: And this is a chart showing this is a table showing the distance restrictions. [1:09:26, 1:09:31]: And we uh created a map showing the distance to the nearby churches and the schools, which is shown here. [1:09:37, 1:09:46]: And we also created a dis a map showing the distance from the stockbridge bottle shop to the proposed liquor store, which is 5,705 feet. [1:09:46, 1:09:50]: Uh the bottle shop is is located in red and the proposed is located in green. [1:09:52, 1:09:56]: And this was the alcohol survey that was submitted as part of the application? [1:10:00, 1:10:05]: And we also looked at section nine point two five requirements for the special use permits. [1:10:06, 1:10:26]: The key points to highlight is that the store will utilize exist internal lane, which ensuring smooth traffic flow. The data from the Georgia Department of Transportation indicates that the average daily traffic count on Rock Croy Road was 12,500 in 2023, suggesting the current infrastructure can handle the additional traffic. [1:10:26, 1:10:40]: And that the property is designated for low density mixed use in the Stockbridge twenty four comprehensive plan. The proposed liquor store aligns with this designation and supports the plan's goal of promoting a better sense of place and preserving community character. [1:10:45, 1:11:05]: And we also looked at section 9.26, which discusses the use permit court uh considerations. The key points to highlight in this is that it aligns with the Stockbridge 24 Comprehensive Plan and it meets the intent of the low density mixed use designation, which aims to create community serve community-oriented [1:11:04, 1:11:12]: Commercial retail areas along the key corridors and intersection were serving by residential neighborhoods. [1:11:15, 1:11:19]: And it also aligns with the other community goals and policies which are shown here. [1:11:24, 1:11:38]: And it's come the properties zone C two, which is general commercial, which allows liquor store under section two point four nine of the stopbridge unified code. This zoning is consistent with the nearby set properties supporting the commercial character of the area. [1:11:40, 1:11:48]: And that the parking spaces will offer forty parking spaces meeting the requirements of section four point eight five of the stock price unified code. [1:11:52, 1:12:12]: This staff report has demonstrated that the requested special use permit via SP twenty four zero two is consistent with the regulations found in OR twenty-four five six three, OR twenty-four five six zero, chapter nine point zero four point zero seven zero, and both section nine point two five and nine. [1:12:12, 1:12:18]: point two six of the stop bridge unified develop phone development code. Therefore the planning and zoning staff recommends approval. [1:12:21, 1:12:23]: Thank you. Thank you, God. [1:12:24, 1:12:26]: Can we hear from the applicant, please? [1:13:05, 1:13:07]: Make this. [1:13:08, 1:13:17]: Good evening. I'm Lisa Morshauer. I'm an attorney with the law firm of Berman Fink Van Horn and I represent the applicant in this case. Um GRP [1:13:17, 1:13:35]: uh LLC is the applicant and I think that Mr. Anderson gave you exactly um the exactly what I want to say. His statement was was right um on every point. I um I reiterate what he said. Um the property is um well [1:13:35, 1:13:46]: We'll start with what happened with the lottery. The city determined that there should be a lottery to add new alcohol licenses based on the census. And my client um was able to get into the lottery. [1:13:46, 1:14:06]: And in order to be in the lottery, you had to have a location that met certain requirements, and this location met those requirements. So that was the first step. And then the lottery took place, and my client was one of the ones who was lucky enough to be drawn for the lottery to um pursue an alcohol license for a liquor store. So in order to do that, he has to submit, he had to submit. [1:14:06, 1:14:16]: Submit an SUP because you can't have a liquor license in the city of Stockbridge before you are um approved for a special use permit. So that is why we are here. And um [1:14:16, 1:14:36]: As Mr. Anderson said, the property is zone C2. It's it allows for a liquor store. The building itself meets the requirements for a liquor store. It has to be over 6,000 square feet. And it isn't um it's comparable to the other stores that are already licensed. [1:14:36, 1:14:51]: in size, it's about the same as almost all of those other ones. Um and they're and the zoning requirement is also the same. They're all they're zoned um for low density and commercial. So they the um [1:14:51, 1:15:11]: Criteria for this property and the building itself are very similar to the other stores that you have in this area, but there's not a store close by to this location. So this will serve an area that hasn't been served by well, people will probably have had to drive a distance to get alcohol if they wanted to purchase it. So now this store will be closer to other residents. [1:15:11, 1:15:22]: and um businesses in the area. As the city grows, that will be very important because your city is growing based on the census that allowed for this new store. [1:15:22, 1:15:23]: So [1:15:23, 1:15:27]: One of the things that you have to show is that um you're not going to be [1:15:27, 1:15:47]: impacting traffic and this location is um has a lot of access the road is um already utilized the traffic count will not be more it will not impact or increase traffic at all that's what the planning department found um there are other criteria that have to be met and um [1:15:47, 1:16:07]: Mr. Anderson spoke about all of them, but I'll just reiterate reiterate some of the ones that I think are really important. The distances to the various uses that are in the alcohol code, such as churches, schools, alcohol treatment centers, and other liquor stores. Those are all those distances are well beyond what the requirements require. [1:16:07, 1:16:21]: And they meet all of those requirements. The store itself is going to be transposed, it's going to be renovated. [1:16:21, 1:16:25]: Building walls will not change the eкster, but the ekster. [1:16:26, 1:16:46]: Facade is going to change. It's going to be much more updated. It's going to look really nice. It'll be a big improvement. Um, and it's not even a bad I I've seen a lot of ugly buildings. This is not an ugly building right now, but the um renovations will make it a beautiful building. The parking lot's going to be resurfaced, and there is green space. [1:16:46, 1:16:56]: Next to it, where there will also be new parking spaces. So there'll be ample parking for this this building, which is currently in use for retail right now. [1:16:57, 1:17:03]: And then um as far as use the use of it impacting um [1:17:03, 1:17:07]: the neighbor any any utilities that's not going to be an issue. Um [1:17:08, 1:17:08]: The [1:17:09, 1:17:20]: There's going to be better outdoor lighting. There are going to be protective well, there's gonna be new landscaping. So there'll be it'll be a better protected um screening from [1:17:21, 1:17:41]: the there are residences down the street, not close enough to impact the distance requirements, but that will be that'll be better. The landscaping is going to be very nice. You have the hours of operation for the store in the application. The proposed store will operate from 9 a.m. to 1030 p.m. on May [1:17:41, 1:18:01]: Mondays through Wednesdays, 9 a.m. till 11:30 p.m., on Thursdays through Saturdays, and on Sundays, 12:30 p.m. to 9 p.m., which are in line with all the other store hours of operation. And there will be open space. There will be ample open space around the building. And the inside of the building, obviously. [1:18:01, 1:18:05]: [4686.3, 4695.5]: nice you know, quality alcohol that'll be available for everybody in the in the city of Stockbridge and in Henry County to get. Um [1:18:17, 1:18:25]: Let's see what else I want to talk to you about. The ingress and egress to the property is is good. It has no problem at all. And um [1:18:25, 1:18:39]: It's compatible with the land uses and zoning um districts in the vicinity of the property. They're they're right in line with that and with the future land use map. Um it's in line with all of the requirements of the future land use map and the goals. [1:18:40, 1:18:41]: set out there in [1:18:41, 1:18:45]: So I believe that um based on all of these factors. [1:18:46, 1:19:03]: And the fact that it meets all the requirements of the dis the distances and the things that are in the alcohol code, we hope that you will approve the special use permit application for them and um and forward it with a favorable recommendation to city council. And um as a matter of just normal [1:19:03, 1:19:07]: Course, I have a a letter of objections in case for some reason you [1:19:08, 1:19:23]: you or the city council denied it that I'd like to submit into the record, but I'm not going to state them. I just have it in writing. So um we do ask that you vote favorably because we think it'll be a major improvement for that building and the community around it. And um and [1:19:23, 1:19:41]: The um Mr. Patel's son is here representing his father. So that's this is uh Naral Patel. If you have any questions of him, he's happy to answer them. But he but they've been involved with this kind of business before and I think they'll be a great operator and and a community member. I think they'll be a wonderful community member. [1:19:43, 1:19:45]: Do you have any questions? [1:19:48, 1:19:49]: Any questions from the council? [1:19:53, 1:19:54]: For questions? [1:19:55, 1:20:10]: And I d I have a s I don't know that you need it because I think the slideshow you got from the city is great, but I have a packet with slides or we had a PowerPoint, but it's basically the same that you already have in front of you. So I don't know if you need it. But I'm happy to have it handed out. [1:20:12, 1:20:13]: You wanna get it. [1:20:15, 1:20:19]: Provide'em to me. You I'll take them. [1:20:27, 1:20:28]: Yeah, better too. [1:20:28, 1:20:29]: Okay, too. [1:20:41, 1:20:44]: That's all I have. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. [1:20:56, 1:21:00]: This item also requires a public hearing, so I will now open the floor. [1:21:03, 1:21:05]: For anyone in favor? [1:21:07, 1:21:09]: Of this proposal. [1:21:09, 1:21:10]: Yeah. [1:21:11, 1:21:14]: Seeing none, I will open for anyone that's opposed. [1:21:15, 1:21:16]: You are opposed? [1:21:17, 1:21:24]: I if you're able, would you please fill out a form if you have an hour dancer or if the podium give us your name please? [1:21:35, 1:21:54]: My name is Armenta Jones. I live at 612 Tahoe Trail in the city of Stockbridge. I'm opposed to another liquor store in the city of Stockbridge. Um I was gonna bring up where we had them, but [1:21:54, 1:22:11]: The gentleman already noted that, but um I just want to express my opposition to it. Um for young people and we just have enough liquor stores. And that's it. Thank you. [1:22:13, 1:22:14]: Any other comments? [1:22:16, 1:22:17]: Public hearings are now closed. [1:22:38, 1:22:40]: Are there any other comments from the commission? [1:22:42, 1:22:43]: Cheer. [1:22:43, 1:22:50]: Go right ahead, sir. Um I was gonna s is there gonna be any security measures for the development? [1:22:55, 1:22:55]: Right here. [1:22:56, 1:23:05]: Oh, it's in the it's I got it. I see it now. I didn't I didn't talk about that, but there is information in our packet about that. [1:23:05, 1:23:06]: They will have [1:23:07, 1:23:27]: um cameras inside and out. They will have an off-duty officer if needed during peak hours. They will have cash registers which require you input the birth date so that you can't bypass the birth date of anybody purchasing alcohol. The lighting is going to be upgraded on the property. And um [1:23:27, 1:23:36]: I don't I don't think I covered everything. They'll be they'll be they'll be IDing everybody and inputting it into the registration register. [1:23:37, 1:23:37]: Thank you. [1:23:44, 1:23:54]: I just have one comment before we take a vote. I won't be voting unless there is a tie. So what I have to say probably don't count for very much. [1:23:57, 1:24:01]: If they say didn't cost you nothing, probably not worth nothing. [1:24:01, 1:24:06]: But we wouldn't be having this conversation except for annexation. [1:24:09, 1:24:11]: I believe that's correct. [1:24:11, 1:24:12]: And [1:24:13, 1:24:15]: Нема обсевішн [1:24:16, 1:24:19]: There has not been any increase in demand for [1:24:21, 1:24:25]: for purchasing alcohol as a result of annexation. [1:24:27, 1:24:32]: If you recall, annexation was kind of designed to fill in some donut holes. [1:24:34, 1:24:35]: In the city map. [1:24:36, 1:24:43]: And if you look at it, all of those donut holes were already being serviced by the existing stores that we already have. [1:24:45, 1:24:53]: I'm not opposed to alcohol consumption. I've shopped at all four of the stores in Top Ridge. And my experience has always been pleasant. [1:24:55, 1:24:59]: But not everybody that got annexed in the city drinks. [1:25:03, 1:25:10]: And those that do were already being serviced by the four stores that we already have. [1:25:12, 1:25:18]: I haven't taken a poll of my colleagues. I don't know who they're thinking this. But uh [1:25:19, 1:25:24]: I would tend to oppose adding an audition store right now based on [1:25:25, 1:25:31]: the indexation because there hasn't been an increase in demand as a result of indexation. [1:25:32, 1:25:35]: For alcohol purchases. Those are my comments. [1:25:36, 1:25:39]: I need a motion from the Commission, please. [1:25:41, 1:25:44]: I'd like to present a motion that we uh pass it. [1:25:48, 1:25:50]: You are motioning for approval? [1:25:50, 1:25:54]: Is that what you're saying? Okay. Is there a second? Second. [1:25:55, 1:25:59]: It's been moved by Mr. Thibodeau and second by Mr. Williams. [1:26:00, 1:26:02]: That we approve [1:26:03, 1:26:05]: The special use permit case. [1:26:07, 1:26:11]: SP twenty twenty four dash zero two. [1:26:11, 1:26:13]: All in favor let it be known by the sound of I. [1:26:14, 1:26:15]: Aye. Aye. [1:26:15, 1:26:16]: In a post [1:26:19, 1:26:25]: We have Mr. Thibodeau and Mr. Williams voting to approve. [1:26:26, 1:26:31]: Mr Mitten and Mr Thomas voting to deny. [1:26:32, 1:26:33]: So we do have a tie. [1:26:36, 1:26:56]: So I will go ahead. Um, if I may, and I had this conversation with the attorney, um, for a public hearing case such as this, they can't we can't abstain unless we recuse ourselves from the bench before the discussion. Am I correct, attorney? That's correct. So so does he have to vote? [1:26:56, 1:26:58]: Or okay. [1:26:59, 1:27:00]: Yes. [1:27:01, 1:27:01]: Well [1:27:03, 1:27:15]: So so and I don't understand what you're saying. So according to the I and I can allow the city attorney to expound more, but according to the bylaws for the board [1:27:15, 1:27:28]: If you were to um if you were to abstain this vote, you would have had to ha do it before we started discussion and then you would have to accuse yourself to the general public since you didn't do so. [1:27:28, 1:27:30]: I didn't indicate what I planned to do. [1:27:31, 1:27:35]: Well, according to the bylaws. Uh m attorney, I'll can let you explain it more. [1:27:36, 1:27:41]: Am I am I wrong? I'm I'm I'm confused as to where the abstaining come from. [1:27:41, 1:27:44]: You said you were I never said anything about Obsani. [1:27:44, 1:27:50]: You said you were abstaining your vote for this. No, I said I would not be voting unless that was the tie. Okay. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: That's what I said. I will break the tie. [1:27:54, 1:27:55]: Which I plan to do. [1:27:57, 1:27:58]: And I'm voting nay. [1:28:00, 1:28:04]: Ma may I speak, Ms Mr. Chairman? Yes, you may. [1:28:04, 1:28:16]: The only thing I have concerned about you making an assessment about whether or not Speak up, please. The thing I'm concerned about, you make an assessment about whether or not [1:28:16, 1:28:28]: the other liquor stores was serving the public. I I I think without stats and information, uh that's just uh a conversation per se. Um [1:28:30, 1:28:42]: We have an owner here that has qualified in all areas to uh be able to uh have a liquor store. So I mean that's what I'm basing my decision on, the qualification of [1:28:44, 1:28:45]: Business. [1:28:46, 1:28:50]: Uh it's uh matter of fact I'm a non drinker, so I'll share that with you also. [1:28:51, 1:29:00]: But if the business has rights to exist and it's not uh causing a problem in the area and they qualify on all levels, [1:29:01, 1:29:04]: Then this is how I see it, Mr Chair. [1:29:21, 1:29:41]: So that the absent member who is not here tonight can vote on this matter. So if we're not looking at an extension issue, we can certainly, this body can certainly continue this item to the next meeting so that there is not a title that issues, which you will have a full body to vote on the matter. [1:29:48, 1:29:50]: That is because there are less than six. [1:29:55, 1:30:03]: Mr. Chairman, if I can ask a quick question. So we're recommending body. This is going to go before the city council regardless next month. [1:30:03, 1:30:05]: So they could in effect pass. [1:30:17, 1:30:18]: Understand. Thank you. [1:30:19, 1:30:21]: If the applicant wishes us to. [1:30:24, 1:30:28]: And I actually would like that. I would like that. Very good. [1:30:28, 1:30:47]: Okay. So for the record the vote was two in favor and two against, and based on what the attorney has indicated with the applicant's request, we can defer this to the next meeting. [1:30:48, 1:30:51]: of the next meeting that there is a full commission here. [1:30:52, 1:30:56]: And the applicant has indicated that she wished to do so. So that's what we'll do. [1:30:59, 1:31:00]: Thank you very much. [1:31:00, 1:31:02]: When i when is the next meeting? [1:31:03, 1:31:07]: We make the third Thursday of every month. [1:31:09, 1:31:14]: I don't have that date. But um Ober seventeent. [1:31:15, 1:31:17]: I'm told it's the seventeenth of October. [1:31:19, 1:31:19]: Thank you. [1:31:20, 1:31:30]: Okay, thank you very much. Next item a special use permit case, SP 2024-03. [1:31:30, 1:31:38]: Consideration of a special use permit to allow for personal care home on property at two seventy Shields Road. [1:31:39, 1:31:43]: The applicant flash agent is Sean Sean or John. [1:31:44, 1:31:52]: The property is located in land lot seventy of district twelve and it contains one point four seven acres more or less. [1:31:54, 1:32:00]: Mr. Linton, are you presenting? Yes. Okay. All right. Go right answer. [1:32:15, 1:32:28]: The next present second uh chairman doomis, the uh next presentation that I'll be presenting is SB twenty four-through three, which is for a proposed personal care home located at two seventy Shields Road. [1:32:32, 1:32:52]: The applicant is Shona John, and the owner is Shona John and the agent is Shona John. The address of the property is 270 Shields Road, with the number of acres being 1.47. The characteristics of the property is single-family dwelling. The current future land use designation is medium density residential. [1:32:52, 1:33:00]: And the current zoning is SR SR Suburban Residential. And the sign was posted on August 21st, 2024. [1:33:01, 1:33:07]: This is the aerial view of the property located in the highlight in blue. [1:33:10, 1:33:14]: This is the sign that was posted on August twenty first, twenty twenty four. [1:33:17, 1:33:20]: This is the zodiac map of the property with the star highlighted here. [1:33:23, 1:33:40]: And this is the the surrounding land use designation. So we have SR and also all SR and we have the single family residential houses, the Meadow Ridge subdivision, and the another single family residential house. [1:33:43, 1:33:44]: Yeah. [1:33:45, 1:34:05]: The subject property proposed development information. The subject property accessed via a concrete apron driveway from Shields Road. It's a rectangular lot proposed to be used as a personal care home for six individuals by Shona John. The property features six bedrooms, two bathrooms, a kitchen, [1:34:05, 1:34:22]: living room and dining room. According to the hand drawn floor plan, each bedroom, including the master, will have two beds. As per Georgia regulations, section one hundred eleven, eight sixty two, each individual must have a minimum of seventy feet square feet of personal space. [1:34:25, 1:34:32]: And this is the concessional plan shown here with the D labeled as door, you have the windows and the bed. [1:34:37, 1:34:57]: Staff analysis. The subject property zoned at SR Suburban Residential and not located in an overlaid district is proposed to be used as a personal care home for six occupants. To operate a personal care home with three or more individuals, Section 3.29 of the UDC may [1:34:57, 1:35:00]: Mana mandate special requirements. [1:35:01, 1:35:05]: And these are the requirements found in section three point two nine of the UDC. [1:35:09, 1:35:10]: Staff analysis. [1:35:12, 1:35:32]: While the applicant meets the minimum development standards, other regulatory requirements are not fulfilled. Ms. John plans to administer medication to the home acco home occupants, but according to Rule Eleven Eight Sixty Two Twenty. Staff assistant with self-administration must undergo [1:35:32, 1:35:35]: and document medication training. [1:35:35, 1:35:48]: This training must cover basic medication training and certified medication aid requirements. The applicant has not provided or knowledge the necessary certifications for herself or her staff. [1:35:49, 1:36:09]: Business license requirements. To obtain a business license in Stockbridge, all relevant codes must be met, including zoning, occupation, tax, state, and fire regulations. The applicant, Ms. John, needs a permit from the State of Georgia's Department of Community Health. She plans to apply for this permit after obtaining her local. [1:36:09, 1:36:15]: business license, but without it, she n she cannot get the city license. [1:36:16, 1:36:33]: Home occupation regulations a personal care home is not considered a home occupation if the number of occupants exceeds five people according to occupant regulations. Therefore, the applicant cannot obtain a business license under the home occupation category for a personal care home with six occupants. [1:36:42, 1:36:46]: And these are the requirements found under section nine point two five of the UDC. [1:36:47, 1:37:07]: The key points to highlight is that the as far as traffic congestion, the proposed personal care home may cause traffic issues due to its single and egress via narrow driveway that widens into a two-car garage. The applicant has not provided a parking plan for residents, employees, and family members. [1:37:07, 1:37:21]: that the subject property is designated for a medium density residential and the Stockbridge twenty four comprehensive plan, the proposed personal care home may be more suitable for a commercial district than a residential one. [1:37:24, 1:37:44]: As far as section 9.26, the use permit considerations, the key points to highlight is that the applicant has not obtained a permit from the state of Georgia Department of Community Health, which is required for a business license for the city of Stockbridge. Additionally, personal care homes with more than two non-transient guests are not. [1:37:44, 1:37:53]: Considered home occupation. The applicant has not provided certifications for administered medication, potentially violating local or state laws. [1:37:54, 1:38:10]: As far as all street parking, the applicant has not provided a parking plan, which is necessary to meet the requirements of section 4.85 of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code, and the operation hours of operation, the personal care home will operate 24 hours a day. [1:38:17, 1:38:24]: Therefore, based on the staff report provided, staff recommends denial of the special use permit for the property of two seventy Seals Road. [1:38:26, 1:38:26]: Thank you. [1:38:27, 1:38:29]: Any questions from the commission? [1:38:32, 1:38:36]: I have some questions but I'll wait on the um developer to [1:38:40, 1:38:42]: You see applicant present. [1:38:44, 1:38:46]: Come forward, please. [1:38:46, 1:38:47]: Give us your name. [1:38:51, 1:38:53]: Share with us your intentions. [1:38:55, 1:39:01]: Good evening, Chairman. Can't hear you. We just speaking the mic, make sure it's on. I said good evening, Chairman. [1:39:03, 1:39:07]: My name is Shauna John and I reside at two seventy Shields Road. [1:39:08, 1:39:15]: And um some of the information that was given pertaining the personal care home is incorrect. [1:39:16, 1:39:21]: First of all, the home my home is consist of six bedrooms. [1:39:22, 1:39:25]: Of two which will be shared room. [1:39:26, 1:39:30]: And two of them is going to be private room. So the most that I'm [1:39:31, 1:39:33]: gonna be accommodating is six people. [1:39:34, 1:39:37]: And um right now date is still under renovations. [1:39:38, 1:39:39]: Because [1:39:40, 1:39:42]: And when I first put in the application [1:39:43, 1:39:45]: I was putting the application for two people. [1:39:46, 1:39:48]: There is two stages of there. [1:39:49, 1:40:00]: After you have the first stage of having two people, elderly people, it's not people that walk around or to invade anybody's privacy or bring any danger to the community. [1:40:02, 1:40:06]: All the congested traffic that they were talking about. [1:40:07, 1:40:12]: We don't have that as a p personal care home. I do own a personal care home in Riverdale. [1:40:12, 1:40:15]: In which I reside right now, де I have free people. [1:40:15, 1:40:19]: I take care of my client on my own to in to ensure that [1:40:20, 1:40:22]: Things are being done the proper way. [1:40:23, 1:40:27]: All во давай то брин в доплікаш. [1:40:28, 1:40:30]: for the um special use permit. [1:40:31, 1:40:32]: Not I'm sorry. [1:40:32, 1:40:36]: All that was required for the application for the personal care home. [1:40:37, 1:40:38]: I provided. [1:40:38, 1:40:42]: All to the state. Nobody ever asked about um [1:40:43, 1:40:52]: Medical training and so forth. This I do and I have at my order facility. The facility that I have right now there. [1:40:53, 1:40:59]: Is one that I am willing to transfer to the other side. I bought a larger place and a better community. [1:40:59, 1:41:01]: Астуайкан [1:41:01, 1:41:02]: Provide better care. [1:41:03, 1:41:03]: Um [1:41:05, 1:41:07]: I'll say more of a better community to the people. [1:41:08, 1:41:10]: We tend to forget that. [1:41:11, 1:41:12]: We [1:41:12, 1:41:14]: The pi we are the um [1:41:14, 1:41:16]: or the set of people that will be. [1:41:16, 1:41:23]: in these personal care homes and I understood that some community does not really want them around. [1:41:24, 1:41:26]: Ви і цлайде Олдерпипо. [1:41:27, 1:41:33]: We get old and um we are being put in on the side because we want more lavish things in our city. [1:41:34, 1:41:36]: But what we fail to realize is that [1:41:37, 1:41:39]: The older people, the elderly. [1:41:40, 1:41:48]: They are the foundation of what everything that we are enjoying right now there. They are the end uh the foundation of it. [1:41:48, 1:41:57]: And tomorrow you and I and everybody else inside there is gonna be either home or a personal care home or a um [1:41:58, 1:41:59]: Nursing home. [1:41:59, 1:42:05]: Families are too busy to take care of their loved ones sometime because you have to take care of [1:42:05, 1:42:08]: Home and other things and sometimes the job that you have. [1:42:08, 1:42:11]: It's not enough to do all what you want to do. [1:42:12, 1:42:13]: And um [1:42:13, 1:42:14]: I have bin working. [1:42:16, 1:42:17]: For twenty years in this field. [1:42:18, 1:42:20]: I try to move away from it. [1:42:21, 1:42:25]: But for some reason I keep getting drawn back into it. [1:42:25, 1:42:28]: Биказ дес дисч. А дидан чуб. [1:42:29, 1:42:30]: This job chose me. [1:42:31, 1:42:33]: I started doing this as a little child. [1:42:34, 1:42:36]: didn't even know what I was doing. [1:42:37, 1:42:39]: But the passion that I have for it. [1:42:40, 1:42:42]: keeps on bringing me back to it. [1:42:43, 1:42:45]: I may not be the best speaker. [1:42:45, 1:42:46]: Ге туди. [1:42:47, 1:42:48]: But I can tell you. [1:42:48, 1:42:50]: If you bring your loved one. [1:42:50, 1:42:52]: I can compete among the rest. [1:42:53, 1:42:56]: And if I am given that chance to get a permit [1:42:57, 1:42:59]: To allow me to continue my dreams. [1:43:00, 1:43:02]: I can assure each and every one of y'all. [1:43:03, 1:43:06]: To come to my home any time y'all want. [1:43:07, 1:43:09]: And you will see for your own self. [1:43:09, 1:43:13]: I can o I can I may not be able to talk, but I can walk. [1:43:15, 1:43:17]: And I would love for y'all to grant me that permit. [1:43:17, 1:43:19]: To continue my dreams. [1:43:19, 1:43:21]: Because it's a dream to me. [1:43:21, 1:43:23]: And I would love to do it. [1:43:25, 1:43:26]: So [1:43:26, 1:43:28]: What whatever that is required. [1:43:29, 1:43:31]: To reach the standard that [1:43:32, 1:43:35]: The city or whoever is requiring me to reach. [1:43:35, 1:43:37]: I am willing to do. [1:43:37, 1:43:38]: Everything. [1:43:39, 1:43:41]: I started from scratch. [1:43:41, 1:43:42]: And [1:43:43, 1:43:45]: First thing they told me that had [1:43:46, 1:43:55]: I cannot have a business in a residential area in the city of Stockbridge. That was the first was told. Nobody said that. [1:43:56, 1:44:01]: Well you need to do this you need to have a special use permit. It's after um the [1:44:01, 1:44:02]: occupational. [1:44:03, 1:44:05]: license they they denied me. [1:44:05, 1:44:10]: This is when I was told that I could apply for the special use permit. [1:44:10, 1:44:14]: Біказ он пей тварина код бук. [1:44:14, 1:44:32]: is giving us the authority in the city. They still allow it. I don't know if they stop, but it's it is still there. I don't know what is going on right now with it, but I know that's what was going on at the time being when I purchased the house. I purchased this house, I called zoning before I did anything. [1:44:33, 1:44:34]: I didn't break the law. [1:44:34, 1:44:35]: To be here today. [1:44:36, 1:44:39]: I go by what the book says. I go by what [1:44:40, 1:44:41]: High off already told me to do. [1:44:42, 1:44:45]: And I purchased this house to move my business over there. [1:44:45, 1:44:46]: And now [1:44:46, 1:44:51]: The city does not want me to don't want to allow me a permit to do it. [1:44:52, 1:44:56]: And I am in the process of fixing and [1:44:56, 1:44:58]: Doing whatever I have to do. [1:44:58, 1:45:03]: to get to the point and to get to where they want me to be the level. [1:45:03, 1:45:08]: Lavish the house because I know everybody wants a nice community. Everybody wants better. [1:45:09, 1:45:16]: And I want to give better to those who are um around me and those who are willing to allow me to serve them. [1:45:16, 1:45:18]: I am a server. [1:45:18, 1:45:24]: A servant I consider myself to be. I love my job, I love what I do. [1:45:24, 1:45:27]: Those people when I see their smile. [1:45:27, 1:45:29]: Ай філ контейне. [1:45:31, 1:45:36]: And this is what I believe that I'm living for. This is what makes me happy. [1:45:37, 1:45:41]: Ms. John, you have three minutes left. You may want to save it for rebuttal. [1:45:41, 1:45:43]: Okay, well um [1:45:43, 1:45:53]: If anybody have any question, we don't have much time. I am willing to answer to the best of my ability. Any questions please from the Commission? [1:45:53, 1:45:58]: Yeah it's Jack a few questions uh the right of here. Okay. Um [1:45:59, 1:46:10]: When it comes to the business license, you have a business license? Yes, sir. Okay. And how about the basic uh medical training? I do. I have a CNA license as well, nursing assistant. [1:46:10, 1:46:15]: The permit from the community of the city of Georgia. The state of Georgia, sorry. [1:46:18, 1:46:19]: Any more questions, please? [1:46:20, 1:46:25]: Cheer. If I may, um I have a few questions. [1:46:26, 1:46:30]: Why was the business not approved by the state? [1:46:31, 1:46:39]: My business has never not been approved by the state. That is a lie. Whoever wrote it is a lie. I have a business license. [1:46:40, 1:46:43]: to my business where I am resigned right now in Riverdale, Georgia. [1:46:44, 1:46:51]: I am applying right now. I have not applied because the first phase they denied me. [1:46:51, 1:46:56]: occupational desi um denied me in the city of Stockbridge. [1:46:56, 1:47:04]: I have not applied to the state because I have to get in the um special use permit for in order for me to do that. [1:47:04, 1:47:08]: And all of this information was just brought to me. [1:47:09, 1:47:11]: Nobody ever told me that. [1:47:11, 1:47:14]: Окей і фі вона геть то да секунд левел. [1:47:15, 1:47:16]: Get this and get that. [1:47:17, 1:47:18]: Nobody ever said it. [1:47:19, 1:47:20]: So [1:47:20, 1:47:22]: I never applied for it. [1:47:22, 1:47:24]: I am waiting for an okay. [1:47:24, 1:47:28]: To go ahead because I spend a whole lot of money already. [1:47:29, 1:47:39]: And I need more money in order to put in the sprinkler, which is what was told to me. I need to put in the sprinkler and the um fire um [1:47:41, 1:48:00]: Sorry, I can't re remember the right word for it. It's okay. My second question is I know it says here that this the reason one of the reasons why was because there were reports of home improvement projects um that needed to be done since that process. Have the improvements been completed? [1:48:00, 1:48:03]: It have not been complete. I stopped on it because I was waiting. [1:48:03, 1:48:06]: Okay. I bought this house since in [1:48:06, 1:48:07]: April [1:48:07, 1:48:17]: And I've been paying mortgage on this house and I'm waiting and waiting and waiting and nobody says anything. When I come to them, that's when they told me that you were denied. [1:48:17, 1:48:37]: Okay. Um my next question is the site plan that you submitted, I I would assume you drew it. Um the site plan you submitted it has four bedrooms. So I I know you said there were six bedrooms, but looking at this the site plan from your s from you that you submitted with your application, it's clearly four bedrooms. [1:48:37, 1:48:53]: But I mean I see six beds but it's four bedrooms. Downstairs there is a basement, a full basement, which is where I'm residing. And upstairs is where I do business upstairs. Okay, see um four bedrooms, downstairs has two bedrooms. [1:48:53, 1:49:13]: Okay, see we would wanted see, I know you were saying six, but we would have wanted to see that in order to be on your side and say there is six bedrooms. You get what I'm saying? Um my last question is well you answered that you said you are staying at the home and I see multiple requirements that were missing that you needed to do from the city's perspective. Um but I'll yield to any more questions. [1:49:15, 1:49:25]: Go ahead, Mr. Mm. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So ma'am, you sound like you're very passionate about what you do. I dream so and I all I ask is a chance to continue. [1:49:26, 1:49:44]: And I would say that you're obviously doing all you can to set up this business, but I do have some concerns, and it's been stated by some of the others. And I just want to clarify on page nine, item three, the applicant has no certifications or permits to operate in this capacity. You stated that you do have certificates. And these these have been presented to the city. [1:49:44, 1:49:50]: They have never asked me, never asked me as far as I have gotten. [1:49:50, 1:50:05]: Nobody ever asked for certifications or any of that matter. If they did, I would preside it because I do have a personal care home. And right now they I'm resigning with them because I was working, I left my job to see. [1:50:05, 1:50:10]: Over my own business and see what I'm doing to make sure that those people get the proper care that they need. [1:50:12, 1:50:32]: I I the reason I ask is because we're at this point where we're deciding as a commission whether or not to to bring li to recommend this to go to council again. Yet there's still a lot of open ended questions here. Okay. Um about your certifications, be it state, your own certifications and [1:50:32, 1:50:40]: And that's obviously has me concerned why those would not have been addressed already at this point. So the home certification, sir? [1:50:42, 1:50:43]: Which is um [1:50:45, 1:50:46]: May I ask? [1:50:48, 1:50:58]: Well, I'm I'm not up with the planning commission, but I would think that in the process of requesting that this go forward and proposing to the city [1:50:59, 1:51:17]: um this plan that uh uh all of your own qualifications, et cetera, would have been provided to the city, that this is what I want to do, and that I would have thought that at some point the city would have asked. And by every indication here, the city's making very bold statements that you don't have these things. [1:51:17, 1:51:21]: I don't have it for the city of Stockbridge for the house that I am [1:51:21, 1:51:23]: trying to get into. [1:51:23, 1:51:26]: to move my business into. I don't have it as yet. [1:51:27, 1:51:30]: Биказ і цін с дан а степ атай. [1:51:30, 1:51:37]: And instead of it going from the first stage to the second stage, they have me doing it from the last stage to the [1:51:38, 1:51:40]: So right now it is even conflicting. [1:51:42, 1:51:51]: To get it together, because I've always started from page one to page twenty-one, but now I have to start from twenty-one to one. [1:51:52, 1:52:08]: Okay. I I I don't want to refute your your qualifications or your certifications. I was just going strictly about what's before you. Well um I'm just letting you know I am gonna apply for the for the business license um for from the state for the city of um Stockbridge. [1:52:08, 1:52:26]: I am going to do everything that I have to do. I have um applied for some more funds to put in the sprinklers and to finish up the rest of the work to bring it up to date to as to what the code is asking and for me to um put in the application for this um for the state license. Okay. [1:52:26, 1:52:30]: Thank you. But before we didn't have to do that at first. [1:52:30, 1:52:43]: That was not the plan. That is thing you do after when you require most people. When you look for this um license, afterwards you have your client two or three. They will require you two or three certain um area or cities that you're in. [1:52:44, 1:52:45]: Um inst [1:52:46, 1:52:47]: Claydon County. [1:52:48, 1:52:50]: They allow you to have three. [1:52:51, 1:52:52]: Or four. [1:52:53, 1:52:56]: And then you will apply for special use permit. [1:52:57, 1:52:58]: You put in the sprinkler. [1:52:59, 1:53:15]: Then you have to reapply for another license to up u upgrade what you have, that you have more people to accommodate the six people or how many people they allow you, you have to apply for another license. And this is how I'd set to do what I was doing. [1:53:16, 1:53:26]: But because occupational is standing in my way, saying that they don't allow it in the city of Stockbridge, but the code is clearly saying that they are still they were doing it. [1:53:27, 1:53:36]: I got caught up right there. So I was confused because I even asked them if they didn't want me to have the business there. They could go ahead and [1:53:36, 1:53:38]: Just purchase the house or [1:53:38, 1:53:43]: Get the house and I will get something else because I said I wouldn't go and purchase a [1:53:43, 1:53:46]: Three hundred and twenty something thousand dollar house. [1:53:46, 1:53:48]: paying mortgages and um [1:53:49, 1:53:55]: Knowing that they don't want the business there. I wouldn't buy this house. I love the location. [1:53:55, 1:54:15]: Mr. John, l may well you finish. No, I I I'm finished, Mr. John. Okay. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. May I uh ask a question, please. Are you willing to defer this and go back with the staff and iron out those difficulties that we were facing? Because I in my opinion, we're not prepared to [1:54:15, 1:54:28]: to do a vote on this. I don't think we're ready. I don't think enough has taken place between you and the t staff to iron out all the requirements. [1:54:28, 1:54:45]: And I think in fairness to you, it would be appropriate if we defer this and allow you the opportunity to to get all those things addressed that needs to be addressed and then come back to us once that's done and then we can make a decision. [1:54:46, 1:54:53]: Okay, well I can I can do that. Would you agree to that? I would agree to that. I just wanna make sure that [1:54:56, 1:54:57]: Мі дуєн вот авту. [1:54:58, 1:54:59]: Then [1:54:59, 1:55:02]: You can say well, okay, you reach the requirement. [1:55:03, 1:55:11]: Has the license to continue doing because everything I have to do, it costs me a lot of money. I understand that, but please understand that. [1:55:14, 1:55:16]: We can't get ahead of staff. [1:55:16, 1:55:19]: And I understand that. Absolutely. [1:55:20, 1:55:27]: Whatever needs to take place needs to take place before it comes to us. [1:55:28, 1:55:30]: In order for us to make a fair decision. [1:55:31, 1:55:31]: Up or down. [1:55:33, 1:55:35]: Right now there's just too many things. [1:55:36, 1:55:36]: Yeah. [1:55:38, 1:55:56]: Dangling. If I'm Yeah, there are things handing. So i if if you would agree to defer it and meet with staff and get all those things worked out. Mm-hmm. Uh because uh we'd be here all night. [1:55:57, 1:56:01]: Back and forth about what ought to be and what should be, what shouldn't be. [1:56:02, 1:56:05]: And and we won't get and at the end of the night we still won't resolve anything. [1:56:06, 1:56:06]: Right. [1:56:06, 1:56:09]: So I'm gonna suggest to you [1:56:12, 1:56:14]: If you would agree to defer it. [1:56:15, 1:56:23]: Go back, get with staff and work those things out. And then when it's appropriate, they'll bring it back to us for a decision. [1:56:24, 1:56:25]: Is that okay with you? [1:56:26, 1:56:34]: Yes, it is okay with me to go back and do things however they want me to do it. [1:56:35, 1:56:36]: Now [1:56:36, 1:56:37]: There is one thing. [1:56:38, 1:56:40]: I don't have control over [1:56:41, 1:56:42]: How long? [1:56:42, 1:56:45]: The state will take to give me a license for this. [1:56:46, 1:56:48]: I don't have control over it. I can [1:56:49, 1:56:51]: Get everything in order, put in the application. [1:56:52, 1:56:55]: They decide how long they take to give it to you. [1:56:56, 1:56:58]: It vary as to how ma how many [1:56:58, 1:56:59]: The applications they have. [1:57:00, 1:57:07]: And it may take from one to two months before I can get that we have no influence in that regard. [1:57:08, 1:57:10]: Well what happens with the state in you? [1:57:13, 1:57:15]: That's not an area that we can weigh in on. [1:57:17, 1:57:26]: Okay. So I'm just suggesting that you go back and take the necessary steps that needs to be taken care of and need to be satisfied. [1:57:27, 1:57:28]: And then bring it back. [1:57:29, 1:57:33]: In order for us to be able to make an intelligent decision. [1:57:33, 1:57:34]: Okay. [1:57:35, 1:57:46]: Okay. Fair enough. Is that fair enough? It's fair enough. Thank you. I will thank you very much. Okay then thank you, sir. Mm-hmm. Chair, do we need a motion for that? I do. Would you? [1:57:46, 1:57:55]: Yeah, I don't mind. Um I make a motion to defer the special use permit case S B dash twenty twenty four dash oh three until staff brings it back before the body. [1:57:56, 1:58:15]: And I second it, Harold. It's been moved by Mr. Williams and second by Mr. Thibodeau that uh S P K twenty twenty four dash zero three be deferred to sometime in the future until the applicant has met with [1:58:24, 1:58:25]: Anyway. [1:58:31, 1:58:32]: Okay. [1:58:35, 1:58:45]: Did you hear that, Mr. Lee? Would you restate your motion, please? Yes, sir, Chair. Um just to clarify real quick, I know some people had comments. Do we uh would we have to defer those comments to the meeting? [1:58:46, 1:58:51]: Seventeen odd. Okay. Alrighty. Uh Miss John, you prefer one month or two months? [1:58:51, 1:58:56]: I'll rather two months the longest I can get because the state said the state [1:58:57, 1:58:58]: I got you. [1:58:58, 1:59:10]: Chair, I make a motion that we defer uh special c use permit case SB dash twenty twenty four dash oh three to November, the meeting in November, which will be November twenty first. [1:59:12, 1:59:20]: And I second it, Harold. It's been moved by Mr. Williams that we defer the s SPK s twenty twenty four-zero three. [1:59:20, 1:59:23]: Until the November Planning Commission meeting. [1:59:24, 1:59:29]: It was second by mister Tibodeau. All in favour, let it be known by the sound of I. [1:59:29, 1:59:31]: Ah okay. In the opposed. [1:59:32, 1:59:39]: It's unanimous. If this case is deferred until November. Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. John. [1:59:46, 1:59:49]: Any comments from staff, Mr. Anderson. [1:59:50, 2:00:08]: Yes, we will have um at the next planning commission we will have a training session for you guys. Um it will last maybe an hour, uh'cause we'll have a light agenda next month. So be prepared for that. Uh we'll send out the the materials and if the materials that you need in advance. Thank you. [2:00:10, 2:00:15]: Anything else? Okay, thank you. Any comments from the commission? [2:00:20, 2:00:21]: That's quiet. [2:00:23, 2:00:24]: All right. [2:00:26, 2:00:28]: If there are no other comments, I need a motion to adjourn. [2:00:29, 2:00:32]: Should I rather make a motion to adjourn? [2:00:40, 2:00:48]: The the last item um the floor wasn't open for public comments and they had um submitted a speaker card. [2:00:50, 2:00:53]: You mean the item we got in the liquor store? [2:00:55, 2:00:58]: The personal care home. Oh [2:01:00, 2:01:01]: We we we deferred it. [2:01:15, 2:01:21]: Does that motion should be opened to the public? I understand that, but I I'm just curious as to why would we do that when [2:01:23, 2:01:24]: It's a [2:01:25, 2:01:45]: Just because they're here. Okay, very good. Thank you. Then we and we will open the public hearing on case SP twenty twenty-four-three for public comment. If you would uh fill out a form if you haven't already done so. Approach the podium and say what you have to say. [2:01:45, 2:01:47]: Say, give us your name and address, please. [2:01:54, 2:02:09]: My name's Robert Bost. Uh I I reside at 254 Shields Road, two houses down. I've been in that house for thirty-five years. Uh I'm I'm all for personal assistance and personal care. [2:02:10, 2:02:27]: But but to change the zoning on on this, I I'm totally against it. My two neighbors in between at two sixty and two fifty are against it also. And and why do you want to defer it? Just say no. Thank you. [2:02:28, 2:02:31]: Thank you, sir. Anyone else? [2:02:39, 2:02:45]: My name's Robert Schule. I live at two fifty three Shields Road, which is directly across the street from this property. [2:02:46, 2:02:52]: I'm gonna have headlights f shining in my windows at night with all this traffic coming in and out. Um [2:02:54, 2:03:14]: She's elderly people she's taken care of. I was taken care of a friend of mine that has dementia. He gets up and wanders. Are these people being wandering out of the house? Shields Road is a real busy road. We can't get the police, we can't get the city to help slow the traffic down. I'm afraid somebody's gonna get hit as a my [2:03:14, 2:03:27]: My other thing. It's a residential area. I have five point four seven acres across the street. Who's gonna buy my property knowing that there's a business across the street when I do go to sell? Um [2:03:28, 2:03:40]: What about our property values? How's that gonna affect our property values? Um I don't know if this business is gonna have to be ADA uh accessible. [2:03:41, 2:03:46]: Are the doors in the house thirty six inches for wheelchairs? I don't know that. [2:03:48, 2:04:08]: At 931 Rockwari Road, there's a facility that's vacant. That was uh assistant living. I understand she's passionate for this and everything else. We have an empty building and a commercial area that's available to do what she wants to do. I don't understand, I mean, financially dynamically. [2:04:08, 2:04:19]: Whatever, but I don't see why we would have to take a residential area and turn it into something else. Um that's all I have. [2:04:19, 2:04:20]: Thank you, sir. [2:04:20, 2:04:21]: Thank you. [2:04:22, 2:04:23]: Anyone else? [2:04:26, 2:04:30]: Public hearing for case sp twenty twenty-four- zero three is now closed. [2:04:42, 2:04:43]: Okay. [2:04:44, 2:04:48]: Thank you, Madam Attorney. I need a motion from the commission. [2:04:48, 2:04:58]: Chair. Yes, sir. I make a motion that we defer special use permit case SP dash twenty twenty four dash oh three to the November twenty first uh planning commission meeting. [2:04:59, 2:05:04]: And I second it, Harold. Been moved by Mr. Williams, a second by Mr. Thibodeau. [2:05:05, 2:05:20]: That we defer SP twenty twenty-four-zero three until the november twenty-first meeting. All in favor? Let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Any opposed? The ayes have it. It's a unanimous vote. [2:05:20, 2:05:23]: So be it. This case is deferred. [2:05:27, 2:05:31]: Hey now, any comments from the board? [2:05:32, 2:05:34]: In the war comments from the war. [2:05:37, 2:05:40]: Hearing none, I need a motion to adjourn. [2:05:41, 2:05:55]: Mr. Chairman, I make the motion to adjourn. And I second it, Harold. It's moved by Mr. Mitten, seconded by Mr. Thibodeau, that we adjourn this meeting. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [2:05:56, 2:06:02]: The eyes have it, the meeting is adjourned. Thank you. Thanks for coming, everyone.
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    --- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-09-09 source: 2024-09-09_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:07:23, 0:07:43]: There's on. I guess we'll we'll try this as well, make sure we we're projecting here. So proclamation city of Stockbridge in recognition of National Assisted Living Week. Whereas residents of assisted living communities are active members of a larger community, offering their knowledge, life experiences, and involvement, their past contributions continue to be a vital part of Stockbridge community rich history. [0:07:43, 0:08:03]: And their ongoing participation deepens the stop bridge identity. And whereas assistant living is a critical long-term care option for older adults and individuals with disabilities that fosters choice, dignity, and independence, assistant living communities are committed to excellence, innovation, okay, and the advancement of personal centered care. Thank you. [0:08:03, 0:08:23]: Thank you very much. Okay. And whereas in 1995, the National Center of Assisted Living established a National Living Week to honor the contributions of assisted living communities in providing long-term care to America's seniors and individuals with disabilities. Whereas this year's theme, the National Assistant Living Week, is inspiring generations. The week is an annual event. [0:08:23, 0:08:43]: That honors the people who work and live in assisted living facilities and also provides an opportunity to learn more about the long-term care sector. Whereas during this week, special week, assisted living communities across the country are encouraged to organize activities and events which celebrate the delegation staff and individual individuality of residents and [0:08:43, 0:09:03]: Deep uh concentrations, excuse me, deep connections formed in their settings. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Forbes, a virtual authority vested in me as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Lana, Barber Kyle, Berry, Lakeisha Gann, and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim September 8th to the 14th, 2024, as National Assistant Living Week in the Great City Starbucks. [0:09:03, 0:09:15]: Georgia, a witness thereof I have hereunto sat my hand in the great city of the city of Properties, Georgia, on the ninth day of September year of Lord two thousand and twenty-four, and I signed a proclamation along with a clerk for Nessa holiday. Congratulations. [0:09:16, 0:09:20]: Okay. Now this is yours. Any any comments that you men want to say? [0:09:21, 0:09:41]: Well, I just wanted to introduce myself to everybody. My name is Darlene Lloyd, and I am employed presently at the Oaks of Stockbridge, where I'm very proud to work. And I have some of my residents in the audience, and we're so excited about that. I'm celebrating Assistant Living Week, and it gives me outstanding pleasure. [0:09:41, 0:09:43]: to thank you, Mayor Anthony Ford. [0:09:43, 0:09:46]: And Councilwoman Yolanda Barber. [0:09:46, 0:09:52]: And the city of Stockbridge for giving me the honor of accepting the proclamation of war. [0:09:53, 0:10:05]: And on behalf of the assistant living, on behalf of the assistant living communities of Stockbridge. Assistant living is an intricate part of the community because we continue to enhance. [0:10:05, 0:10:10]: And the quality of life for each senior individually. [0:10:11, 0:10:31]: Fantastic. Thank you. Thank you. Before we take a picture, put it uh your your folks that came here with you, you want to come on up, take a picture with us over? Yeah, come on up, come on. Sure. Come on, ladies or gentlemen. I have my executive director, we have our nurse here. Okay. Yeah, everybody come on up so we can take a picture together. That's wonderful. I certainly appreciate y'all being here forever. [0:10:31, 0:10:37]: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. [0:10:37, 0:10:45]: So we'll shift over and we'll shift over somewhere down here, sure. We get these other folks sitting here as well. I can move on. Oh sure, that's fine. That's fine. We'll get some [0:10:46, 0:10:58]: Come on in, sir. Ladies? Yeah. Okay. Okay, thank you. Come on in. [0:10:59, 0:11:18]: Who's gonna take the picture? She's taking the picture right there. Okay, so we might have to double up so make sure you have a lot of come right here. Come on. Come on in. Right right here. Okay. Go ahead. All right. [0:11:25, 0:11:38]: [699.0, 719.0]: So let's do we'll take one more. Let's just take one with proposition. It's a proposition. We'll step we'll step up. I don't have a phone. Good idea. Good thought. Oh is she? Yes. Oh my gosh. Come here, Martin. Come on, is that meaning them? [0:11:58, 0:12:01]: Okay. [0:12:02, 0:12:09]: No hard like that. [0:12:15, 0:12:25]: Okay, fantastic. Congratulations congratulations on you. My plastic one take care of it. [0:12:29, 0:12:36]: Yes, this is a good thing. [0:12:37, 0:12:43]: [766.7, 769.5]: Well there's a couple of things ways to do this on the [0:12:50, 0:13:04]: If if she's coming, I can hold off on that. Okay. Okay. For a second here. And what uh I have uh several different uh um open offices to do here. Jeremy Mays? Come on up, sir. [0:13:08, 0:13:26]: Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you, Jerry Mays. Good to see you again, sir. All right, good. All right, Ms. Mays, we're right here, so we're pressed to the seal us here. And we raise your right hand. We'll take small little snippets of this per se, okay? Aye, state your name. Jerry Mays. Board member? [0:13:26, 0:13:44]: Board member. Do solemnly swear in the firm. Do solemnly swear in our firm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the downtown development authority. The duties of the downtown development authority. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And I will. And I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. [0:13:44, 0:14:04]: Support and defend the charter thereof the charter thereof as well as the constitution the constitution and the laws of the state of Georgia and the laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America and the United States of America. I further affirm that I further affirm that that upon assumption of this office, that upon the assumption of this office, I do not hold I do not hold any unaccountable for public money. [0:14:04, 0:14:05]: [845.8, 865.8]: Any unaccounted unaccounted for public money. Unaccounted on public money. Due and payable to the state. Due and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any public subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. [0:14:25, 0:14:45]: Do I hold nor do I hold any other office any other office of trust of trust of the government? Of the government, of the United States, of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state, as prescribed, as prescribed, by the law, by the law of the state, of the state of Georgia. Of Georgia. I solemnly affirmed. I solemnly affirm that I faithfully excuse me. [0:14:45, 0:15:05]: That I'm fully qualified. That I'm fully qualified. Under the constitution. Under the constitution. And the laws. And the laws. Of the state. Of the state. To hold the office. To hold the office. Downtown Development Authority Board Member. Of the Downtown Development Authority Board Member. And that I will perform the duties of my office. In the best interest of the city Stockbridge. [0:15:05, 0:15:25]: of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability to the best of my ability without fear without fear favor affection reward reward or expectation thereof or expectation thereof congratulations sir thank you no problems on the ninth day of september did some great things congratulation again thank you [0:15:25, 0:15:26]: You look forward to working with [0:15:27, 0:15:32]: Okay, Mr. Mason, you can please assign a couple of documents here and uh also [0:15:33, 0:15:46]: If you have any comments, we the blueing pen, we have a we have a pin ready for you, okay? So you sign here, here. Vanessa Holly assigned it, and once she signs it, she'll give you uh give you that information and give you a copy of that as well. So you sign like that. [0:15:53, 0:16:13]: And do you have any comments at all for the audience that you want to mention? Absolutely. Um, of course, I came to Stockbridge four years ago as a member of the Merrige Bank team here in town. Um, I've gotten a chance to see the city of Stockbridge where the community connects. We're at a Marriage Bank, we're with you, and I'm just looking [0:16:13, 0:16:18]: forward to working with the city of Stockbridge and its community to make it better. [0:16:18, 0:16:20]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: We'll take a few glitches first. Uh come on there, please. [0:16:35, 0:16:55]: I just want to say on behalf of Council Liaison to the downtown development authority, welcome forward. We're going to be working together. We're going to do some great things. Absolutely. You know, service is your both. And it'll be a for you? All right. Absolutely. All right. Great things for that. Thank you. All right. [0:16:55, 0:16:55]: Yeah. [0:16:59, 0:17:04]: Uh Martin Glenn. Mr. Glenn? Okay, all right. [0:17:05, 0:17:15]: All right, well let's do it. On this side, sir? All right. How you doing? Doing good. Okay. So we're gonna take this small snippet, raise your right hand, okay? [0:17:15, 0:17:17]: I state your name. I'm Mark Glenn. [0:17:17, 0:17:37]: Board member? Board member do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the duties of the public facilities authority. The public facilities authority of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. The charter thereof. The charter thereof as well [0:17:37, 0:17:57]: as as well as the Constitution the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia and laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America and the United States of America. I further affirm that I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office I do not hold any I do not hold any unaccounted for public money unaccounted for public money or payable excuse me do and payable to the state do [0:17:57, 0:18:17]: And payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Starkbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Do I hold? Do I hold? Excuse me. Nor do I hold. Nor do I hold. Any other office? Any other office of trust of trust? Of the government. Of the government. Of the United States. Or the United States. Of this state. Of this state. Or any foreign [0:18:17, 0:18:37]: State or in a foreign state as prescribed by as prescribed by the law the law of the state of Georgia of the State of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office of my office in the best interest in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge of the City of Stockbridge and to the best of my ability. And to the best of my ability without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward or expedition. [0:18:37, 0:18:46]: Expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. Congratulations, sir. All right. Thank you. Congratulations, sir, Castle McTown. Thank you. [0:18:50, 0:18:54]: Yeah, I need to come over here and sign uh this document please. [0:18:59, 0:19:00]: Yeah. [0:19:04, 0:19:23]: Left hand, okay. There you go, sir. Any comments that we have for the for everybody? Oh no, just uh that I really appreciate the opportunity to serve my community and uh I will do my best in my ability. All right, thank you sir. Thank you. We're gonna take some pictures, come on over here, take some pictures out over there, sir. [0:19:26, 0:19:27]: Oh my god, [0:19:35, 0:19:37]: Can I have this here for you, sir? [0:19:40, 0:19:48]: Appreciate you. Thank you, brother. All right. Okay, let's see here. Uh Georgia Reeves Day. Anybody here to receive this proclamation? [0:19:49, 0:19:52]: Okay, well we'll go through the process here. [0:19:53, 0:20:01]: Georgia Rees Day, uh in recognition of that, uh whereas literacy is not just an education issue, but an economic workforce and quality of life issue. [0:20:01, 0:20:04]: is also a predictor of the future educational achievement. [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: Economic status and long [0:20:07, 0:20:08]: Lifelong health and well being. [0:20:09, 0:20:15]: In two thousand twenty-three, sixty one percent of Georgia uh ris raising excuse me, rising fourth graders did not read proficiently. [0:20:15, 0:20:25]: And research shows that children who are proficient readers by the end of the third grade are four times more likely to graduate from high school than their peers who are not uh reading on grade level. [0:20:26, 0:20:36]: Whereas the General Assembly I recognize the importance of literacy skills with the passage of two bills in twenty twenty three, SP two hundred eleven, that created the Georgia Council of Lit on Literacy. [0:20:36, 0:20:42]: And the HP five thirty eight that requires comprehensive education reforms for reading instruction in the science of reading. [0:20:42, 0:20:59]: And whereas understanding of the collaborative efforts of strategic partnership must be undertaken to effectively address literacy issues, the Georgia Municipal Association, GMA, is a non-profit, it's nonprofit organization, Georgia City Solutions, members of the general uh of the general Georgia General Assembly. [0:20:59, 0:21:01]: In a football champion now turn. [0:21:02, 0:21:10]: Children's author Malcolm Mitchell partnered with the Georgia Council of Literacy to launch Georgia Reads in the 2024 GMA annual convention. [0:21:10, 0:21:30]: And whereas community involvement is essential to literacy and improvements in a Georgia and Georgia Reeds, with uh will which will include recognizing 10 community partnerships that have uh increased literacy in the past three to five years at Georgia Reeds communities. Whereas September 30, 2024 marks a date uh when our Georgians are encouraged to create awareness of [0:21:30, 0:21:44]: about the importance of reading and encouragement of community partnerships to promote future literacy improvements. Whereas together we improve Georgia's economic viability one book at a time. Now therefore I Anthony S. Ford, Biper Authority Vested Me. [0:21:44, 0:21:56]: As the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members out in Alexander, Ilana, Barber, John, Blount, Kisha Gann, and Fonsel Thomas, we pro hereby proclaim September 30, 2024, a Georgia Reeves Day in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:21:57, 0:22:10]: A witness thereof, I have here unto set my hand in the Great Seal City, Stockbridge, Georgia, the ninth day of September, year of our Lord, 2024, and assigned a proclamation along with our clerk for Nessa Holiday. And here's ladies and gentlemen. [0:22:11, 0:22:12]: Uh just uh [0:22:13, 0:22:19]: I guess we might have to take a picture of this as well. Reading this one no more. Yes, correct. [0:22:19, 0:22:32]: Any educators with us or any educators or retired teachers? Oh okay. I'm sorry. Yeah, but I'm appreciating you back. You gotta think we can change. [0:22:39, 0:22:44]: Thank you. I I'm sorry. [0:22:46, 0:22:50]: We uh we have that on the first thing. Okay, okay. [0:22:52, 0:22:52]: Oh [0:22:55, 0:23:10]: I don't know where it is. Okay. Okay, I'm like that. I I I haven't done that yet at this point. So uh that's it, come on up forward, please. [0:23:17, 0:23:31]: How are you doing? Yeah, yes, come on over here please. So this is uh so otherwise, ladies and gentlemen, I guess in a sense. You can touch the mic here. [0:23:32, 0:23:52]: We have a award for our water department, is that right? Yes. Okay, so go right ahead, please. All right. My name is Pam Burnett, and I'm the executive director of the Georgia Association of Water Professionals. We're a state association, professional association. We've been around for 92 years working with all of the water systems, which includes waste. [0:23:52, 0:24:00]: Water, water supply, stormwater, any form of water in Georgia. We uh we we help with the education training. [0:24:00, 0:24:20]: And recognition of water professionals. So I'm very proud of this award. This we have a program called the Gold Awards for those systems that achieve perfect compliance with their federal and state permits. And these are very complicated facilities: water plants, wastewater plants. [0:24:20, 0:24:40]: Are very complicated facilities. They require a lot of training, special skills, but probably above all of that, real commitment and diligence to doing the work of producing clean water, safe water that's delivered to you every time you turn on the faucet. [0:24:40, 0:24:53]: And every time you flush the commode, it goes away and it's treated and restored and returned to the environment safely and in a clean way so somebody else can use it. [0:24:53, 0:25:13]: So, in our awards program, the reason we recognize uh perfect compliance, and that's what this award is about, is perfect compliance with the state laws and federal laws. And I'm telling you that these plants are so complicated, it is not easy to achieve perfect compliance because perfect compliance means even submitting [0:25:13, 0:25:22]: your reports on time. You could you could get a number transpose, anything that'll n that'll knock you out of [0:25:22, 0:25:40]: of of compliance, it could be just something very simple. It could be the post office, not getting something on time. So it's not easy to achieve. It requires all of the things that I said before, just tremendous attention to the details and the um product. [0:25:40, 0:25:46]: So in Stockbridge this year, we recognized the um the water plant. [0:25:48, 0:25:51]: Received oops, I'm sorry, this is my platinum award. The gold award. [0:25:53, 0:26:13]: I'm I'm backwards on this. The wastewater plant received the Gold Award this year. And again, this is a full year of perfect compliance. And thank you for doing this. This is this is great for the environment. Absolutely great for the environment. Okay, so here's another piece of it. [0:26:13, 0:26:28]: If you receive gold award status, which is again perfect compliance, but if you do that for six years in a row, after the fifth year, you're eligible for our platinum awards. So think about that. One thing can knock you back. [0:26:29, 0:26:32]: And you have to start over with the gold awards. Well, you've got [0:26:32, 0:26:33]: Water plant. [0:26:33, 0:26:34]: That achieved [0:26:35, 0:26:48]: I'm sorry. Yes, this is the water system that that received the platinum award. And the f the the water plant has not received a platinum award in fifteen years. So this is an amazing accomplishment. [0:26:51, 0:26:55]: And and it's it has everything to do with the leadership of the department. [0:26:56, 0:27:00]: Dashes is um and your team have done an incredible job. [0:27:00, 0:27:02]: But I have to thank the лідерs. [0:27:02, 0:27:08]: Stockbridge as well because you are a key to providing the resources and the support of the team. [0:27:09, 0:27:19]: It's not an easy job that they do, and they have to do it every day, twenty four hours a day, so that you can flush your toilet and you can drink water. So thank you so much. Really proud of you. [0:27:20, 0:27:28]: Thank you. So anybody else from your department is here? No. Okay, so why don't we why don't you take these so we gotta take some well first of all you got any comments or no? [0:27:30, 0:27:50]: I'd just like to say congratulations and thank you to our hard working team for all their efforts in ensuring that we remain compliant with our permit. Our sewer superintendent, Mr. Kevin Miller, was planning to be here, but his mom passed on Saturday, so just keep him and his family in your prayers. Thank you. All right. So once you once you take this sir, we will take this picture. [0:27:50, 0:27:59]: These are yours, I don't need to hold come in sir. These are yours. These are yours. I don't need to hold these. These are yours. All right? All right. So uh let's take some pictures here. Come on in, come on in. [0:28:01, 0:28:05]: Well I think it's all [0:28:14, 0:28:20]: Yeah. [0:28:22, 0:28:30]: And I have one more proclamation, ladies and gentlemen, before we uh end this particular ceremonial part of our program. This is National Hispanic Heritage Month. [0:28:31, 0:28:36]: Is anybody here to receive this uh award? Proclamation. Okay. [0:28:36, 0:28:53]: Whereas each year American observes National Hispanic Heritage Month annually from September fifteenth to october fifteenth by celebrating the contribution of the influence of Hispanic Americans to the history, culture and achievements of the United States of America, citizens whose ancestors came from Spain, Mexico, Caribbean, Central and South America. [0:28:54, 0:29:09]: Whereas the observation started in uh observation observation, that was right, started in nineteen sixty eight as a uh Hispanic Heritage Week under President Lyndon Johnson and was expanded to President Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty eight to cover a thirty day period starting September fifteenth and ending october fifteenth. [0:29:10, 0:29:13]: It was enacted into law on august seventeenth, nineteen eighty eight. [0:29:14, 0:29:34]: Under approved public law 100-402. And whereas the day of September 15 is significant because it is the anniversary of independence of Latin American countries: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guala Mama, Honduras, and Nicaragua. In addition, Mexico and Chile celebrate their independence days on September 16th and September 18th, respectively. Also, Columbus Day. [0:29:34, 0:29:39]: or De Lorato Day, which is October twelfth falls within the thirty day period. [0:29:39, 0:29:54]: Whereas this year's theme, everything is possible, everything is possible, Latinos, great economic growth, innovation, innovation, excuse me, and ca competitiveness, a stronger uh middle class and set to values centered on family and hard work and opposition opposition. [0:29:54, 0:30:14]: And whereas the city of Stockbridge uh continues to support the Hispanic and Latin community and encourage everyone to celebrate its the Hispanic and Latin culture in and around the Stockbridge community and surrounding area. Now, therefore, I Anthony Splor by virtual authority best than me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander Londa, Barber Cowberry, and Lisa. [0:30:14, 0:30:34]: Lakesa Gan and Fonso Thomas do hereby proclaim September 15th, October 15th, the Hispanic Heritage Month, the Great City of Stockbridge. A witness thereof I have hereunto sent my hand in the Great Sea of the City, Stockbridge, Georgia, on its ninth day of September, year of our Lord 2024. And I signed the proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday. Okay. [0:30:34, 0:30:44]: So let's uh picture this. Yeah, no no no. [0:30:51, 0:31:05]: Thank you very much. Okay, appreciate it. All right, so uh we have uh almost six o'clock here, ladies and gentlemen. Is it gonna be it for now for this? I guess you need to collect all these items here. Something else to have? [0:31:05, 0:31:17]: I don't know, is there a Miss Scott here? Mary Scott? [0:31:17, 0:31:20]: Okay, there's a new sky. Okay. [0:31:21, 0:31:22]: Speed. [0:31:24, 0:31:31]: How are you doing, Ms. Doug? All right. All right, so uh right here, yeah, raise your right hand. [0:31:31, 0:31:34]: And uh I state your name? I knew yeah. [0:31:34, 0:31:54]: Board member? Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the Stockbridge Ethics Board. The duties of the Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will. And that I will. To the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. The charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. [0:31:54, 0:32:14]: And laws and laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America. In the United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this state. I do not hold. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. Any unaccounted for public money. Do and payable to the state. Do and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stop Brave. [0:32:14, 0:32:27]: City of stock race. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold nor do I hold any other office of trust? Any other office of trust of the government of the United States? Or the government of the United States. Of this state. Of this state. Or any foreign state as prescribed. [0:32:27, 0:32:37]: As prescribed. By the laws by the law. By law. Of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. I'm a resident of the city of Stockbridge. I'm a resident of the city of Stockbridge. And I shall and I shall remain a resident. [0:32:37, 0:32:57]: And I shall remain a resident by serving on the ethics board. By serving on the ethics board. I have not been convicted. I have not been convicted of any felonies. Of any felonies. Involving moral turpitude. Involving moral turpitude. In this state. In this state. Or any other state. Or any other state. I will perform the duties of my office. The best interests of the city of Stockbridge. [0:32:57, 0:33:10]: City of Stockholm. And to the and to the best and to the best of my ability. Of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. Congratulations. Thank you. [0:33:13, 0:33:15]: Sound this. [0:33:16, 0:33:22]: And and do you have any comments for the public at all that you want to mention? Uh no, I'll let you care. [0:33:23, 0:33:29]: I'm sorry? How did you get out of here? Well, that's fine. I mean you if you want. If you sign here and but if you want a copy, so we have the floor is yours. [0:33:41, 0:33:42]: Okay. [0:33:43, 0:33:53]: So we'll take a photo how we take a comics. Yeah. Very quickly I'm gonna say thank you for giving me uh the opportunity to volunteer and I hope to make the sitter petty the the [0:33:54, 0:34:04]: That's good. City better. Always room for improvement. Okay. [0:34:15, 0:34:32]: Oh thank you very much. Alright folks give it a few minutes to readjust and get everything together for our meeting. We'll be a little bit of time, but uh we'll make it work. All right. Thank you. All right, thank you. All right, so let's see here. [0:34:32, 0:34:34]: It's not worse. [0:34:40, 0:34:41]: Okay, good, good. [0:38:49, 0:38:52]: On the adjustment I will uh [0:41:04, 0:41:05]: You could take this though. [0:41:06, 0:41:10]: All right, council, I have eleven, excuse me, I have six, eleven. Need to get our meeting started. [0:41:11, 0:41:12]: Like to call the meeting to order. [0:41:14, 0:41:19]: Invocation, Mr. Glenn, sir if you could please come to the mic and give an invocation. Ladies and gentlemen, if you can please stand. [0:41:25, 0:41:25]: Thank you. [0:41:28, 0:41:31]: All right, with a head bowed, hearts and minds clear. [0:41:32, 0:41:35]: Heavenly Father, we just come today to say thank you. [0:41:35, 0:41:55]: Thank you for all of your blessings, all of your mercy, all of your grace, Father. And we ask that you look down on all of us. Bless us from the crowns of our heads to the soles of our feet, Father. And Lord, we ask that you bless this meeting, Father. We ask that you lead and guide us, Father, to better discussions that lead to better results and better opportunities. [0:41:55, 0:42:02]: For this city, Lord. And we just thank you for all these things. In Jesus' holy name. Amen. [0:42:02, 0:42:18]: Thank you. Amen. Alright, for Pledge Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God independent liberty and justice war. [0:42:19, 0:42:21]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:42:24, 0:42:42]: Good evening everyone. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Temberry. Present. Councilmember Alexander. Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quarrel. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Mr Berry, Mayor Pro Temberry, please. [0:42:42, 0:42:52]: Yes. Um mayor I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda to remove item number five, noting that the requested amendment is already in compliance with the city's comprehensive plan. [0:42:53, 0:42:58]: There are second to that second. I second. Ms. Okay, I gave it to Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [0:42:59, 0:43:01]: Okay, it comes off. Go ahead, Mr. Berry, please. [0:43:01, 0:43:13]: And also I'd like to make another motion to remove items number seven, number eight, number nine, and ten from the agenda due to the applicant's request for deferral to be heard at the October fourteenth meeting. [0:43:13, 0:43:25]: To a second that motion. I said that okay Miss uh Ms. Gamf uh second hand on favor please indicate unanimous decision. Okay, appreciate that. Mayor Ford, yeah. I'd like to make a request to amend the agenda. [0:43:26, 0:43:46]: Well st stand stand by one second, please. Stand by. Ms. Uh Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, I just wanted to make a comment if we could. Uh to make sure that everybody is clear. Uh the item on Hudson Bridge Road was removed tonight. Uh it was removed tonight to continue to work on the plan. Uh the developer has uh [0:43:46, 0:44:06]: is working on the plan to refine it to come into a qu to see what Lakerbeard put together some better conditions. What will be described and uh come out of that process uh over here, right here by the wall wa the um Walmart area in Taco Bell. [0:44:05, 0:44:25]: Is a gated community, which which has been agreed upon already, with uh very nice town homes that'll be developed. Uh the price point in those pounds home projected to be three fifty to four hundred thousand dollars. Um we have a fifty-four million dollar road project that will begin uh in that area. So there's a [0:44:25, 0:44:45]: A lot of moving parts to see how this particular um development will move forward in its final iteration. It was indicated that uh we made this deferral for some reason, other than that. There was no other reason other than that uh the uh [0:44:45, 0:45:05]: uh product that we received. Uh we asked for upgraded product and we the upgraded product is being worked into it so that uh it will fit into alignment and actually exceed the value of the current homes uh in the area. So what will happen is that uh will be heard on October the fourteenth [0:45:05, 0:45:25]: The public will be given an opportunity to speak on it and to weigh in on the final iteration of what the plan will look like and to just understand that, you know, if you need the information, come to the city. We got the information. Okay, there's a lot of misinformation out there. [0:45:25, 0:45:45]: About all the product, whatever project that we have, you can come to the city to the planning and zoning development and request it. You know, there was an iteration or a picture shared of what the development was looking like. The final development won't look anything like the picture that was shared at all. So if you want to understand what it looks like, [0:45:45, 0:46:05]: Like, come to the city, we will be able to provide you with the factual information so there's no misunderstandings on where we stand in terms of this particular project. In addition to that, I will close by saying there was a number of one-car garages that were in the particular development request. [0:46:05, 0:46:25]: Those one-car garages are being removed. As a result of the one-car garages being removed, it will reduce some of the units that are available. So everything will have a two-car garage in this particular development. The council will have to decide on what needs to be done, but certainly the iteration of the current final plan. [0:46:25, 0:46:40]: is being worked on. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Ms. Barber Glade, please. Yes. I'd like to request to amend the agenda for two items. One, um, for mayor's consideration to reactivate the finance committee. [0:46:42, 0:46:45]: Should I do both of these separately? Yes, you should. Okay. [0:46:46, 0:46:48]: I'd like for the council to consider. [0:46:48, 0:46:51]: For the mayor who has the responsibility [0:46:51, 0:46:52]: Um or [0:46:52, 0:46:55]: He has the where it all to be able to reactivate. [0:46:56, 0:46:57]: The finance committee. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:47:02, 0:47:03]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:47:04, 0:47:14]: The motion fails. Go on with your next motion, please. The next motion, um, I'd like to add to the agenda a council discussion to define a policy or procedure. [0:47:14, 0:47:18]: to dispose of city owned real estate properties. [0:47:19, 0:47:21]: Okay, is there a second to that motion? [0:47:22, 0:47:24]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:47:25, 0:47:32]: Motion fails. I need in my a motion to to adopt the entire agenda, please. Come here. Yeah, yes sir, go ahead please. [0:47:36, 0:47:37]: Yes sir. [0:47:38, 0:47:41]: I wan I wanna state in the record that [0:47:41, 0:47:43]: When it comes to [0:47:43, 0:47:44]: Committees. [0:47:46, 0:47:53]: that the mayor has the sole authority to uh appoint um [0:47:54, 0:47:56]: The chair of these committees [0:47:57, 0:47:59]: And that the council [0:47:59, 0:48:02]: Do not have [0:48:02, 0:48:04]: in authority to [0:48:04, 0:48:07]: to to to set those and so [0:48:08, 0:48:10]: I would hope that [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: U and [0:48:12, 0:48:16]: Councilwoman Barber would just have that discussion on your own. [0:48:16, 0:48:30]: And uh make sure that that process is is adhered to. Thank you. Mayor Ford, if I may, add a comment in response to Councilman um Thomas. Go ahead, please. Okay. [0:48:30, 0:48:38]: So I don't know the background. I don't know the background as to why the original finance committee was deactivated. [0:48:38, 0:48:44]: But it's been some time ago, I guess ten plus years ago, Councilwoman Gantt would know. [0:48:44, 0:48:51]: Um or maybe the city clerk can find the background information on why it was deactivated. [0:48:51, 0:48:53]: But our city has grown. [0:48:54, 0:48:56]: A lot of changes have been made here. [0:48:56, 0:49:00]: Ви ніде фананс борд файнс коміті. [0:49:01, 0:49:05]: That is what my original request was. [0:49:05, 0:49:08]: My original request was for [0:49:09, 0:49:10]: Us to reactivate [0:49:11, 0:49:16]: The finance коміті, if we want to name it something else, a finance board. [0:49:16, 0:49:17]: So be it. [0:49:18, 0:49:27]: I understand based on the charter that the mayor is the only one who has the powers to activate a committee. [0:49:28, 0:49:30]: However, all of the other boards [0:49:32, 0:49:35]: The council they have council liaisons. [0:49:35, 0:49:36]: Not a chair. [0:49:37, 0:49:39]: That's my understanding. [0:49:40, 0:49:42]: I want us to have a discussion. [0:49:42, 0:49:43]: Regarding [0:49:44, 0:49:46]: Reactivating. [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: The finance committee. [0:49:48, 0:49:50]: If we need to change [0:49:50, 0:49:54]: The position from chair to a council we aise on, so be it. [0:49:56, 0:50:00]: That is why I wanted to have a discussion regarding [0:50:00, 0:50:05]: Реактивати Фінанс комітеті, Фінанс Борд. [0:50:05, 0:50:11]: Whatever you want to call it. I also suggested that I don't I would mind being [0:50:11, 0:50:13]: The council liaison. [0:50:13, 0:50:17]: Now the city clerk corrected me and she said, Well, with the finance committee [0:50:17, 0:50:18]: That [0:50:18, 0:50:22]: committee has a chair, not a council liaison. [0:50:23, 0:50:26]: It's the only committee that has. [0:50:26, 0:50:27]: A t here. [0:50:28, 0:50:29]: So [0:50:30, 0:50:32]: I wanted us to have this discussion. [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: So [0:50:33, 0:50:35]: That we all can get the background. [0:50:36, 0:50:44]: On what happened with the original finance committee while we no no longer have it. I am the only member of the governing body who's not serving. [0:50:45, 0:50:46]: On any board. [0:50:47, 0:50:48]: Or committee. [0:50:49, 0:50:49]: So [0:50:50, 0:50:51]: That was an opportunity. [0:50:53, 0:50:53]: Tesla. [0:50:54, 0:51:06]: All right. As as you well know, Councilwoman Barber and an attorney as well as the uh clerk received a memo from me about that outlining the trial responsibilities of the mayor. [0:51:06, 0:51:20]: And all committee. Committees and boards are two different things. The committee the committee aspect, committee and committee chairman of of any officers of the city council shall be appointed by the mayor and shall serve in the pleasure of the mayor. The mayor shall have the power and appoint new members of any committee at any time. [0:51:20, 0:51:33]: Also, my memo, I mentioned the finance department will soon gain additional uh support to handle the daily uh responsibilities and full confidence. I have full confidence in city manager who has operational supervision and entire to ensure the successful management of the finance department. [0:51:33, 0:51:36]: What it will work well without a committee involvement. [0:51:36, 0:51:51]: I had mentioned that to you. Now what it is is that the boards, the actual boards, there are four boards, four council members are liaisons to those boards. Those boards are are discussed and determined by the council themselves. Only vote unless there's a tie. [0:51:51, 0:52:07]: All right, unless uh some other board member or uh uh a board member's term expires and that individual is willing to give up that responsibility or the council decides to switch it, then that's the council desire of those boards. We need to move on with the meeting this evening. Okay. [0:52:07, 0:52:13]: If I may, and this will be my last comment, I'm sorry. I surely hope so. Okay. So as I said [0:52:13, 0:52:15]: I understand that [0:52:15, 0:52:16]: Committees [0:52:16, 0:52:17]: The mayor. [0:52:17, 0:52:20]: has the responsibility of appointing a chair. [0:52:21, 0:52:22]: It doesn't have to be a committee. [0:52:23, 0:52:24]: It could be a board. [0:52:24, 0:52:27]: Just as we have the downtown development authority board. [0:52:28, 0:52:36]: Just as we have the Citywide Development Authority Board, just as we have the Main Street Board, just as we have the Youth Council Board. [0:52:37, 0:52:40]: All of those boards have council liaison. [0:52:40, 0:52:43]: Just so happened, the finance committee. [0:52:43, 0:52:45]: requires a chair. [0:52:45, 0:52:46]: Well [0:52:46, 0:52:49]: We don't necessarily have to call it a commitті. [0:52:49, 0:52:51]: It could be a finance board. [0:52:52, 0:52:54]: Just like the rest of [0:52:54, 0:52:57]: the committees and well boards that we have. [0:52:58, 0:53:00]: This would be the third. [0:53:01, 0:53:04]: Third time the mayor has rejected. [0:53:04, 0:53:08]: My request to serve on any board or committee. [0:53:08, 0:53:10]: I don't know why. [0:53:10, 0:53:11]: My councilmates [0:53:12, 0:53:17]: And the mayor do not want me to serve on any board or committee. [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: You should know why. [0:53:19, 0:53:23]: You should know why. If you've been watching these meetings, you ought to know why. [0:53:23, 0:53:29]: I am all about transparency in the way we govern and the way we do business. [0:53:30, 0:53:31]: So I'll um [0:53:32, 0:53:39]: hopefully be able to bring this back after I speak with my councilmates and come to a resolution. Thank you, Mayor. [0:53:40, 0:53:46]: You're welcome. I need now need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. Mayor Ford, I'll move. Is there a second? [0:53:46, 0:53:48]: Mayor Ford. [0:53:48, 0:54:05]: May Mr. How's I second that. All in favor, please indicate. Mayor Ford, I have a comment before we vote, because these minutes do not reflect the statements that I made. In fact, I've sent amendments to the clerk to make to all of [0:54:06, 0:54:26]: The minutes. What excuse me, what minutes you're referring to? All four of the minutes. August twelfth, August twenty seventh. Or a point of order. August twenty four. Stand by. August twenty sixth. To make revisions to those minutes based on the statements and comments. [0:54:26, 0:54:46]: that I made during those meetings. What point order w the point order, listen, we're adopting the agenda. The adoption of the minutes comes after adopting the agenda. Yes. Now so I need a motion to adopt the agenda please. What I've asked is I want to make an appointment. You're out of line, stand by. I need the motion to adopt the agenda. You've had a first, you've had a motion and a second. Okay. [0:54:46, 0:54:47]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:54:48, 0:54:55]: Thank you. Okay, therefore. Now I need a motion. Well, we got the no now in the motion, adoption of the minutes. Stand by. [0:54:56, 0:55:16]: Minutes uh for adoption are August twelfth council meeting minutes, August 27th, the council work session minutes, August 21st, the Council retreat minutes, twenty august twenty-second, the council retreat minutes, and August 23rd, the council retreat minutes. All right. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. I'd like to approve the minutes. [0:55:16, 0:55:20]: with amendments that have been sent citiz to the city clerk. [0:55:21, 0:55:32]: All right. Well, first of all, those amendments that have been sent to city clerk. I do not know whether or not those amendments have been sent to everybody else to for them to vote on at this point. I've never sent revisions to the entire council. [0:55:32, 0:55:37]: Норгас каунсел сен ревизион корекція мade. [0:55:37, 0:55:38]: To the minutes. [0:55:39, 0:55:42]: Ma'am Madam Clerk, you received some amendment some changes to the [0:55:43, 0:55:48]: And and um and where do you stand on that? I mean what's we don't I have no idea what that's about. [0:55:50, 0:55:54]: Not um a lot of change to the actual minutes, it was verbiage. [0:55:55, 0:55:57]: Verb is such as um [0:55:57, 0:56:00]: Not really changing the content of the minutes. [0:56:08, 0:56:23]: Well in in addition to I'll stand by please. Madam Clerk, anything else at this point? All right, go ahead please. In addition to the discussion that we had during the retreat regarding reactivating the finance committee. [0:56:23, 0:56:24]: When I first spoke [0:56:25, 0:56:26]: about the finance committee. [0:56:27, 0:56:29]: I said I wanted to be the council liaison. [0:56:30, 0:56:31]: It was a city clerk. [0:56:32, 0:56:35]: Who corrected or advised that [0:56:36, 0:56:39]: There is no council liaison on the finance коміті. [0:56:40, 0:56:41]: It would be a chair. [0:56:41, 0:56:43]: She also informed all of us. [0:56:43, 0:56:44]: That the mayor [0:56:45, 0:56:46]: Газ респонсабілі. [0:56:46, 0:56:50]: Of reactivating and appointing a chair. [0:56:50, 0:56:52]: That information [0:56:52, 0:56:54]: Is not included. [0:56:54, 0:57:01]: In the minutes. All that's in the minutes is me asking the mayor to appoint me [0:57:01, 0:57:04]: Ас на Чер о Фінанс Коміті. [0:57:04, 0:57:06]: Listen, I don't wanna play any games. [0:57:07, 0:57:09]: We've got a long agenda. [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: Let's go ahead. [0:57:11, 0:57:15]: I want to move to approve the meeting minutes. [0:57:16, 0:57:21]: With the amendments that have been sent to the city clerk. [0:57:21, 0:57:22]: All of them. [0:57:24, 0:57:26]: Uh Mayor. Yeah, go ahead, please. [0:57:26, 0:57:37]: I I'm sorry, but um Miss Holiday, I can't approve minutes that I don't see. Can you please read those amended changes that are being requested? [0:57:37, 0:57:42]: If and any time we do ask for something to be amended or corrected is usually [0:57:43, 0:57:43]: During the [0:57:44, 0:57:55]: after the work session or or after a meeting before the minutes have to be approved and they were all they would already be approved in these minutes. So it's not [0:57:55, 0:57:57]: like um [0:57:58, 0:57:59]: What's being stated? [0:57:59, 0:58:02]: We actually request if we see an error. [0:58:02, 0:58:05]: will actually ask that [0:58:05, 0:58:15]: that be corrected and then it would actually be printed here in the meeting minutes. But I can't vote on something that was emailed by another council member if we didn't see it. [0:58:17, 0:58:24]: Madam Clerk, could you read that please? Could those those particular changes? I'm I'm not able to read it. Stand by, let her listen to what she has to say. [0:58:25, 0:58:34]: Go ahead please. The the amendments were sent out after the minutes were sent out to council. [0:58:36, 0:58:55]: I I came back from Athens today. I have not had an opportunity and that was stated. But there is a precedence set by this council where and it's stated by the mayor at the previous meeting, any changes that need to be made, please submit that to the clerk. That has happened. [0:58:56, 0:58:58]: I can't count the number of times. [0:58:58, 0:59:00]: And it there is a precedent there. [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: So what you all decide to do, they you don't have to t approve the minutes today? [0:59:06, 0:59:15]: Ms. Barber's asking that they be approved with the amendments. That has been customary, but it's up to the council what you choose to do today. [0:59:15, 0:59:24]: What are those changes though? What why what are those? What are the changes? I'm asking a clerk please. Okay. Clerk, what are those changes that you received? [0:59:25, 0:59:42]: I received the email mayor. I have not had the opportunity to include those and reprint those with amendments. Okay. That that's happened at meetings before. We have before sat here and had the amendments amended, approved with amendments. [0:59:43, 0:59:45]: has been the customary procedure here. [0:59:46, 0:59:46]: All right. [0:59:47, 0:59:57]: Council, you got any suggestions? I do, Mayor. Yes, Magoria, please. Let Councilwoman Barber read the changes that she wants to be made in the amendments. I mean in the in the minutes. Okay. [0:59:58, 1:00:00]: Can't go with you, gentlemen. [1:00:00, 1:00:02]: Go write it, please. Okay. [1:00:05, 1:00:11]: Most of these I provided screenshots of what is actually published and on the city's website. [1:00:12, 1:00:19]: Met for standby. [1:00:21, 1:00:28]: Fer for explanation of what you're referring to. Which set of minutes. There they're five the five before us. Which ones what days you're talking about? [1:00:33, 1:00:34]: August twelfth. [1:00:34, 1:00:45]: Okay, what's August 21st? Hold on, hold on. August twelfth. August 22nd? What is and August 23rd. Okay, for August 12th, what is it that you wanted to change to put in the what in there? Okay, Mayor Ford, if you allow me. [1:00:45, 1:00:49]: To read all the revisions that I sent. I'll be happy to do it. [1:00:50, 1:00:53]: Go right in. Okay. So I sent screenshots. [1:00:54, 1:00:58]: of sections of each of the minutes. [1:00:58, 1:01:00]: And I also provided [1:01:00, 1:01:05]: details of what she needs to correct. Most of these changes, if not all of them, [1:01:05, 1:01:08]: А статименц да I made. [1:01:10, 1:01:14]: No changes to any statements that anyone else made. [1:01:15, 1:01:16]: It looks like [1:01:16, 1:01:19]: My statements were misconstrued or [1:01:19, 1:01:21]: Just not worded. [1:01:21, 1:01:22]: Correctly. [1:01:22, 1:01:24]: So August twelfth. [1:01:27, 1:01:28]: Uh page four. [1:01:29, 1:01:36]: Where it says Council Member Barber stated that while she recognized the owner has a right to sell. [1:01:36, 1:01:40]: There are concerns regarding the rates of the future facility. [1:01:40, 1:01:42]: In comparison to the current rates. [1:01:43, 1:01:45]: And question the security of the access. [1:01:46, 1:01:47]: To the nearby subdivision. [1:01:49, 1:01:50]: My correction to that [1:01:51, 1:01:53]: My statement was that I was curious. [1:01:54, 1:01:58]: To know what the current rates were of the other facilities in comparison. [1:01:58, 1:01:59]: To the current rate. [1:02:00, 1:02:03]: That the existing patients or residents are paying. [1:02:04, 1:02:16]: The next statement I made, I also stated that I watched the Planning Commission meeting when this proposal was presented. I heard the concerns expressed by a resident who lives in the adjacent neighborhood. [1:02:16, 1:02:17]: The villages. [1:02:18, 1:02:19]: Regarding access [1:02:19, 1:02:20]: to their neighborhood. [1:02:21, 1:02:22]: I asked the [1:02:22, 1:02:28]: Potential new property owner if she has plans to restrict access into the adjacent neighborhood. [1:02:29, 1:02:31]: That was not included in the minutes, but it should be. [1:02:33, 1:02:34]: The next minutes. [1:02:34, 1:02:36]: August twenty second. [1:02:36, 1:02:38]: That was the retreat. [1:02:40, 1:02:43]: Um didn't include the page number. [1:02:43, 1:02:50]: But in the meeting minutes, it reads, Councilwoman Barber asked about the city's newsletter. [1:02:50, 1:02:52]: Noting only one copy. [1:02:53, 1:02:54]: Went out. [1:02:55, 1:02:55]: Two [1:02:56, 1:02:58]: The newly annexed residents. [1:02:59, 1:03:00]: That's not what I said. [1:03:01, 1:03:03]: I stated that I would be um [1:03:05, 1:03:08]: А сед а стати да онлива ньюзлетер. [1:03:08, 1:03:12]: was published and mailed out in twenty twenty three. [1:03:12, 1:03:18]: Noting that the newsletter was not sent to the newly annexed residents. [1:03:22, 1:03:22]: Continue. [1:03:23, 1:03:25]: Yes, go ahead. [1:03:25, 1:03:27]: Um then there's another section. [1:03:28, 1:03:34]: Councilmember Barber noted there needs to be more focused on recruitment and interns for departments. [1:03:35, 1:03:36]: Um [1:03:38, 1:03:41]: I said I inquired about internships. [1:03:42, 1:03:43]: Please correct. [1:03:43, 1:03:45]: Not interns. [1:03:46, 1:03:48]: My question was to the [1:03:48, 1:03:49]: HR director. [1:03:50, 1:03:51]: The next one? [1:03:52, 1:03:53]: Please correct. [1:03:53, 1:03:54]: I said [1:03:54, 1:03:56]: Councilmember Barber noted. [1:03:56, 1:04:00]: The city has imposed a city tax on the residents. [1:04:00, 1:04:02]: And increase the cost. [1:04:02, 1:04:05]: for the entertainment for residents and non-residents. [1:04:06, 1:04:10]: That is what's noted in the minutes, but that's not what I said. [1:04:11, 1:04:15]: Вот I said was year over year there has been an increase. [1:04:16, 1:04:17]: To the proposed budget. [1:04:18, 1:04:19]: For free entertainment. [1:04:20, 1:04:21]: That's what I said. [1:04:22, 1:04:23]: For the record. [1:04:25, 1:04:28]: Then there is another section of that same meeting. [1:04:29, 1:04:41]: Councilmember Barber noted that there is a$2 million budget approved by the Council for the Amphitheater Consultant and Expenditures and asked who is responsible for reconciling the amphitheater reports. [1:04:43, 1:04:44]: That's what's in the minutes. [1:04:45, 1:04:47]: What I asked is for her to please correct. [1:04:48, 1:04:51]: Noted that there are two milyen dollars budgeted. [1:04:51, 1:04:52]: That was approved by the council. [1:04:53, 1:04:55]: For the operations of the amphitheater. [1:04:55, 1:04:57]: Also noted that budget amendments [1:04:58, 1:04:59]: should be presented. [1:04:59, 1:05:00]: To the council. [1:05:01, 1:05:02]: No, they haven't been. [1:05:03, 1:05:04]: I said that too. [1:05:08, 1:05:08]: The next one. [1:05:10, 1:05:10]: Same day. [1:05:12, 1:05:13]: Councilmember Barber. [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: Made a request to Mayor Ford. [1:05:17, 1:05:19]: to appoint to be appointed. [1:05:19, 1:05:22]: Chair of the Finance Committee. [1:05:22, 1:05:30]: And noted, she is the only member of the count council currently not serving on a board or committee in any capacity. [1:05:31, 1:05:33]: My correction to her was that [1:05:33, 1:05:34]: Please correct. [1:05:35, 1:05:38]: Council member Barber made a request. [1:05:38, 1:05:42]: of Mayor Ford to reactivate the finance committee. [1:05:42, 1:05:43]: I also said [1:05:44, 1:05:48]: Та чи во данно в фінанс коміті. [1:05:49, 1:05:50]: And note it. [1:05:51, 1:05:54]: I am the only member of the council who is not serving. [1:05:54, 1:05:57]: as a council liaison on a board or committee. [1:06:00, 1:06:03]: The clerk was the one who advised. [1:06:03, 1:06:04]: She's the one. [1:06:05, 1:06:08]: Who advised that the mayor has the responsibility? [1:06:08, 1:06:09]: Of appointing the chair. [1:06:10, 1:06:11]: to the finance committee. [1:06:13, 1:06:16]: I had asked to be the council liaison. [1:06:17, 1:06:23]: That was my original request, but that's not in the minutes. So it just looks as though I asked the mayor. [1:06:24, 1:06:25]: To just make me a chair. [1:06:26, 1:06:28]: But it doesn't show. [1:06:28, 1:06:32]: That the city clerk advised or informed the council. [1:06:33, 1:06:37]: That the ме the mayor has the responsibility of appointing the chair. [1:06:37, 1:06:39]: So all of this is really [1:06:40, 1:06:44]: small little details, but I'm gonna continue on because you asked me to. [1:06:53, 1:06:55]: The next one is August twenty third. [1:06:58, 1:07:00]: Um and [1:07:01, 1:07:03]: Page is this. Page four. [1:07:04, 1:07:10]: Councilmember Barber asks what the impact is on the city when shows are canceled. [1:07:11, 1:07:13]: I asked her to please correct. [1:07:14, 1:07:18]: What I asked was what is the impact to the amphitheater budget? [1:07:19, 1:07:22]: when concerts are cancelled or rescheduled. [1:07:23, 1:07:23]: And then [1:07:24, 1:07:24]: After [1:07:25, 1:07:27]: I got a response from Mr. Young. [1:07:27, 1:07:28]: I followed up. [1:07:28, 1:07:29]: By asking [1:07:30, 1:07:33]: Why would we pay a hundred percent of the expenses? [1:07:33, 1:07:38]: For the rescheduled concerts due to factors that are out of our control. [1:07:38, 1:07:39]: Such as the weather. [1:07:40, 1:07:45]: And ask, are there rescheduled shows being renegotiated? [1:07:46, 1:07:47]: So I want that added. [1:07:49, 1:07:50]: Then there is [1:07:52, 1:07:53]: Page. [1:07:53, 1:07:54]: Page four. [1:07:56, 1:08:00]: Councilmember Barber asked if the funds can be reallocated. [1:08:02, 1:08:05]: And she just shows mister Wall confirmed. [1:08:06, 1:08:08]: So I asked her to please clarify. [1:08:09, 1:08:13]: What did Mr. Walls confirm because it's not included in the minutes? [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: Then August twenty first. [1:08:18, 1:08:24]: Councilmember Barber asked who is responsible for reviewing the city's housing inventory? [1:08:27, 1:08:34]: Noting as has been stated, there have been a number of developments approved, specifically [1:08:34, 1:08:46]: multifamily developments, noting there has been a lack of single family detached homes and developments that have come before the council for approval and these types of affordable, [1:08:46, 1:08:47]: Developments are what are needed [1:08:48, 1:08:50]: In the city. That's not what I said. [1:08:52, 1:08:54]: But Miss Holliday, of course. [1:08:55, 1:08:57]: She's it's not being recorded. [1:08:58, 1:09:01]: These were all minutes taken during the council's retreat. [1:09:03, 1:09:05]: So what I asked her is [1:09:06, 1:09:07]: I reiterated. [1:09:07, 1:09:10]: That diverse housing options are needed. [1:09:11, 1:09:11]: Please correct. [1:09:12, 1:09:14]: There have been more than [1:09:15, 1:09:16]: There have been [1:09:16, 1:09:20]: More multifamily developments approved by a city council [1:09:21, 1:09:22]: For district four. [1:09:23, 1:09:26]: There have been a lack of development proposals. [1:09:26, 1:09:27]: Four [1:09:27, 1:09:29]: Single family detached homes [1:09:30, 1:09:31]: Present it to the council. [1:09:31, 1:09:35]: And that diverse housing options are needed in the city. [1:09:36, 1:09:37]: I'll continue. [1:09:37, 1:09:38]: What? [1:09:38, 1:09:58]: I know, but point of order. We are wasting the citizens' time with petty items. These people, I know they don't want to sit here all night and listen to this. It it might be better that we table this, come back, read the notes. Everybody can come back and have a detail to it. How many more do how much more time? [1:09:58, 1:10:07]: Time do you need to for us to delay the meeting? That's all I'm asking. How much we have to do. Well, no, I don't need any time. Your mayor asked me to do this, so I am. [1:10:08, 1:10:15]: Um I I'm not here to play any games. Never has this council ever been asked [1:10:16, 1:10:18]: To provide [1:10:19, 1:10:25]: What corrections they submitted to our meeting minutes. We what not necessarily meet. [1:10:26, 1:10:29]: The rules seem to always change when it comes to me. [1:10:30, 1:10:38]: I'm here for it. So if you have some more, listen so we so we can approve this if or whatever the case the council's gonna decide you how much more do you have uh to mention here? A lot more. [1:10:39, 1:10:52]: Exactly. Let's table this and then bring it back to the next meeting so everybody can read it. Come forward. We can't not sit here and now we got a bunch of s business, actual business to conduct. This is this is ludicrous. [1:10:52, 1:10:56]: Mayor Ford. Mr Mr Thomas, please. [1:10:57, 1:11:11]: I'm I'm gonna yield to to the clerk. Oh, go ahead, clerk comment. Mayor, just just to be clear for everyone to know, the city of Stockbridge, the charter states that minutes are done by summary. [1:11:12, 1:11:14]: Not verbatim. Right. [1:11:15, 1:11:24]: And the retreat is those meetings were not televised, they were not recorded, those are handwritten notes. [1:11:24, 1:11:29]: And they are by summary, they are not verbale. [1:11:29, 1:11:39]: I try to take what content comes out of those meetings and summarize those meetings as best that I can to [1:11:39, 1:11:40]: Brains. [1:11:40, 1:11:45]: To the history, what has happened at the meeting is not verbatim. [1:11:47, 1:11:53]: All right. Mr. Thomas. [1:11:53, 1:12:00]: Uh Mayor and Council, uh I I I think it would serve all of us best. [1:12:00, 1:12:02]: It will allow [1:12:02, 1:12:05]: Councilwoman Barber to [1:12:05, 1:12:16]: get with the city clerk to ensure that her comments were properly um recorded and noted. [1:12:16, 1:12:18]: And we bring the minutes back. [1:12:19, 1:12:24]: Once all of the corrections have been made. I tried to take notes here. [1:12:24, 1:12:26]: Um it it's a lot to try to [1:12:27, 1:12:28]: Field the end, but [1:12:29, 1:12:41]: I think it would serve all of us best. A second thing. If if the clerk and Ms. Barber get together with the record and bring all of the minutes back with all of the corrections, all of the updates. [1:12:41, 1:12:52]: And we approve of the minutes that way. Uh and I think that would serve all of us best. I think Councilwoman Barber, if this would satisfy you to make sure that [1:12:52, 1:12:53]: Your comments. [1:12:54, 1:12:56]: Excuse me. If your comments [1:12:57, 1:12:59]: or properly recorded. [1:12:59, 1:13:01]: Then we can all come back. [1:13:01, 1:13:04]: And approve the minutes. [1:13:04, 1:13:07]: If that's okay, I think that would serve all of us best. [1:13:08, 1:13:10]: I'm taking that as a motion to table council member [1:13:11, 1:13:31]: Yes. Yes, I I I will second that motion uh and certainly uh agreed to do that, understanding that this is uh what what needs to happen and in defense of the clerk. But that she's she stated accurately. This is a summary. I look at those notes, I trust her, and I think she's gonna do the right thing. So thank you. [1:13:31, 1:13:40]: Mel Foy, please in that motion, and if Councilwoman Barber's okay with it, just let Mrs. Barber [1:13:40, 1:13:55]: And the clerk get together and correct the minutes. I don't think we need any more comments about it. And if that is satisfied everyone, we'll come back and approve the minutes with those corrections. Second. Thank you. [1:13:57, 1:13:59]: I'm assuming Miss Barber, you all right with that? [1:14:00, 1:14:05]: If I may second the motion, I would. Well it's already it's already been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:14:06, 1:14:10]: All right, fantastic. Okay, let's move on. Um, Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [1:14:11, 1:14:14]: We do have one public comment from Mr. [1:14:15, 1:14:16]: Tim Callahan. [1:14:16, 1:14:20]: All right, sir. Come on up, please. [1:14:25, 1:14:30]: Good evening, folks. Good evening. Name and address, please, sir. Tim Callahan, 146, Oakwood Circle. Okay. Stockbridge. [1:14:31, 1:14:51]: Uh, I'm coming to you uh in light of uh the recent developments of uh expansion of the Westside Connector and added housing units on Hudson Bridge Road. Uh recent traffic study uh presented to the city marked up that area as service level E, meaning that it's a very poor traffic zoned area. And I asked that the council [1:14:51, 1:14:52]: [4493.0, 4498.1]: Putting some scrutiny to any developments in the area related to that traffic tie up. [1:14:58, 1:15:02]: Uh, particularly along Hudget Bridge Drive, where uh [1:15:03, 1:15:11]: People just kind of ignore the the traffic markings on the uh I believe it's north side of Hudson Bridge Drive. Um [1:15:11, 1:15:23]: The new developments that are proposed are going to add traffic, the expanded traffic with the ex uh West Side Connection, which I applaud. I will bring more traffic through there as well as flip and road, which I know you don't control. [1:15:23, 1:15:35]: But I do ask that as you consider the developments in this area, please expand that consideration to the fact that it will cause a substantial amount of traffic flow through there and the investment is gonna fall to the city, not to the developers. [1:15:36, 1:15:38]: Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Appreciate your comments. [1:15:39, 1:15:43]: On that note, ladies and gentlemen, we before we had our actual meeting, of course, several. [1:15:46, 1:15:47]: Okay. Mr. Glenn? [1:15:47, 1:15:48]: Call him forward, please. [1:16:01, 1:16:07]: Name and address, please, Mr. Glenn. Mark Glenn, uh 199 Eagles Club Drive, Stockbridge. [1:16:09, 1:16:10]: Oh yeah, please. [1:16:11, 1:16:31]: My comment is is around the uh zoning request. I believe it's on item number six. That's correct. Um Mr. Glenn, you're not able to speak to any item on the agenda and it has to be a non-agenda item for public comments. You're welcome to speak during the public hearing portion of the meeting. [1:16:31, 1:16:32]: For that particular item. [1:16:32, 1:16:40]: Oh, okay. All right. Thank you. I appreciate it. Mayor Ford. Yes, yes, ma'am. Um, I made a request to amend the agenda. [1:16:40, 1:16:42]: Um and one of the items. [1:16:43, 1:16:44]: was not addressed. [1:16:45, 1:16:57]: That was council discussion to a fine to define a policy or procedure to dispose of city owned real estate properties. I believe you asked that there's no second to the motion. [1:16:58, 1:17:18]: That's right. There was no second to the motion. There was no second to the motion. That's why. That's why we moved on. And we'll continue to move on. Thank you, sir. Thank you. All right. So uh on the ceremonial uh part of the meeting, prior to prior to the meeting, we have several different proclamations to identify the Hispanic Heritage Month, which is from September 15th to October 15th. Um, Mr. Jimmy Floyd. [1:17:18, 1:17:38]: Fleming retired from Vulcan Materials, been a very uh very good partner uh with the city of Starbries and with the community. Uh well over a 30-year relationship with uh Falcon, of course, and with our our community. And what he mentioned in his comments, if I recall distinctly that uh Vulcon Materials has had the long [1:17:38, 1:17:44]: long standing relationship with Stockbridge in the um in the quarry and the the material [1:17:44, 1:18:04]: industry more than any other place that they've have ownership of. So they've been in the community for many, many years. Um Georgia Reed's proclamation and and in a sense was uh was read as well, uh introducing and and acknowledging the uh Georgia Reed's and for our children in our schools, trying to [1:18:04, 1:18:24]: allow them and give them more access to reading. And we also had a proclamation for National Uh Assistant Living Week identifying those individuals that live in assistant living facilities. And our water department and uh well actually our water plant and a water treatment plant both received platinum and gold awards for their outstanding [1:18:24, 1:18:44]: work and what it amounts to is that uh when it comes to public works, there's something that uh I guess a lot of times we take for granted. They do do a lot of heavy lifting and for the infrastructure and on the mission for the city itself. Um but we don't talk about that enough. We have other things typically we talk about, but they've obviously they've been doing [1:18:44, 1:18:49]: extremely well to receive these awards over the course of the the last twelve years or so. [1:18:50, 1:19:08]: And then uh swore several individuals into the Public Facilities Committee, the DDA and our ethics uh board. Uh I believe I covered all those, so we had a very extensive uh ceremonial portion of our meeting tonight. And on that note, um move on. [1:19:11, 1:19:22]: to a presentation. The presentation deals with the FY twenty twenty three audit report presented by uh Hope Penegrass of Malden and Jenkins and involving also Ms. Gaines as well. [1:19:24, 1:19:24]: Thank you. [1:19:26, 1:19:29]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. How are you doing this evening? Evening. [1:19:29, 1:19:37]: Uh Marlon and Jenkins are here to present the FY23 budget. We have Hope Prendergrass and her associate, Mr. Kirk Erich. [1:19:46, 1:19:48]: Appreciate you uh appreciate the fact that you all are here. [1:19:51, 1:19:55]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, I appreciate the opportunity to come and speak to you all today. [1:19:56, 1:20:10]: I did put together a short PowerPoint presentation that will um essentially summarize the information that's already been included in your agenda packet. There are no there's no new information here, but I just kinda wanted to have a visual aid to assist me. [1:20:18, 1:20:36]: So, um, we're here today to talk about the 2023 audit. Uh, we'll be going through a few things, tell you a little bit more about your engagement team at Malton and Jenkin. We'll talk about the results of the audit, some financial trends, upcoming GASBE pronouncements. GASBY is the governing body that governs the accounting. [1:20:37, 1:20:42]: um policies and financial reporting for governments and then I'll be happy to address any questions you may have. [1:20:44, 1:21:02]: So I think y'all are familiar with us. Moln and Jenkins audits more than seven hundred and twenty-five governments throughout the southeast, across six states, including fourteen offices. 180 plus of those entities are cities like yourself. Some just as small as a few thousand people, all the way up to the city of Atlanta itself. [1:21:05, 1:21:15]: Um there are certain things that we are required to report to you all by the auditing standards. One of those is that our responsibility, um [1:21:15, 1:21:21]: is that we audit the financial statements. It's management's responsibility to take ownership of those financial statements. [1:21:25, 1:21:40]: So for the fiscal year ended 1231 23, we did have an unmodified or clean opinion on your financial statements, meaning that we determined that they are materially correct in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles for governmental entities. [1:21:41, 1:22:01]: Um you also have other reports that are included in your annual comprehensive financial report or your ACFER. This includes the report on internal control as well as something that y'all don't have every year, but some years it just depends on the level of federal funding that you have. You also have a report on your federal program. [1:22:01, 1:22:06]: in accordance with the uniform guidance. We did have um [1:22:07, 1:22:27]: Six findings this year. It looks like I left off a bullet, but we had um five having to do with your financial statements and one having to do with your federal programs. None of these are anything that I don't think is easily correctable. The city had a lot of stuff going on this year, had a newer finance staff, so we did have some things that need to be tightened up for next year, but I see that. [1:22:27, 1:22:31]: that the the staff you have in place should be able to accommodate that easily. [1:22:33, 1:22:53]: So again, you had a single audit which is performed in accordance with the uniform guidance. We tested two of your major federal programs, one of that being your coronavirus state and local fiscal recovery funds. A lot of times those funds are referred to as ARPA funds because ARPA was the federal appropriation of those funds. We also tested your COPS grant. [1:22:53, 1:22:57]: Those grants were new this year because you all have a um police department. [1:22:58, 1:23:00]: So you were getting those grant funds? [1:23:01, 1:23:16]: Um we did have what we call an unmodified or clean opinion on your CSL FRF. We did have a qualified opinion on your COPS grant. That just means that there was one area of which we could not report as a clean opinion and that had to do in regard to reporting. [1:23:18, 1:23:31]: These next few slides include our required communications. Again, we are required by the standards to communicate to you all certain things. As far as your significant accounting policies, those are described in your ACFER in note one. [1:23:33, 1:23:53]: Um this year, GASME 96. Again, GASME is the authoritative body that governs financial reporting for entities like yourselves. This one had to do with subscription-based information technology arrangements. So we had to consider that. That would be where y'all are paying over multiple years for some kind of license to use a software. So we had to consider. [1:23:53, 1:24:00]: Consider that and the reporting thereof, but we it was determined that there were no material agreements to report under that standard. [1:24:01, 1:24:08]: Um your s your statements include various estimates and we determined that those were proper. [1:24:10, 1:24:28]: And there are certain footnote disclosures included in your um ACFAR that I always tell people is good bedtime reading, but those are included in there. We did receive full cooperation from management and staff and had no disagreements on accounting issues or for n financial reporting matters. [1:24:30, 1:24:50]: Um there were no past adjustments, which means all the adjustments that we proposed were accepted by management. We did have several audit adjustments again as I referenced earlier, and as you all know, you have a newer accounting staff, and so we did um have several accounting adjustments. Um those were provided to and discussed with management. [1:24:50, 1:25:05]: As part of the audit completion each year, we require um representation from management, i.e., you've told us everything, you've given us everything that you know, and so we had no issues obtaining that representation from management. [1:25:06, 1:25:12]: We are not aware of any consultation with other accountants, and again there were no significant issues discussed with management. [1:25:14, 1:25:21]: Um, let's see. The important thing here is that we are considered to be independent in regard to the city. [1:25:24, 1:25:44]: The next session talks briefly about financial trends. So this is a five year history of your revenues and expenditures. Um as you'll see there, your revenues are in the and transfers and other financing sources are in the gold. Um the dark gray color is your expenditures. So this year your revenues did outpace your expenditures. [1:25:44, 1:25:56]: And on this next slide, we have a five-year history of your expenditures versus your fund balance. You know, there was a period of time that you all had fund balance in excess of your annual expenditures. [1:25:56, 1:26:15]: With the implementation of a lot of your initiatives in recent years, that's kind of flip-flopped to be more in line with what we see elsewhere at other communities that we work with. As of six uh 1231-23, y'all had approximately 18% of fund balance when you compare it to annual expenditures. [1:26:15, 1:26:16]: Um [1:26:19, 1:26:32]: I've talked about GASME 96. That was it would have been implemented this year if you had any qualified agreements. These next two slides just talk about some of the upcoming GASMEs, things that you will have to implement in the coming years. [1:26:34, 1:26:38]: which we will communicate with management and and advise them as appropriate. [1:26:40, 1:26:57]: And the last thing I want to talk about is part of our service. We provide free continuing education to management and counsel if they should desire to attend when we just talk about emerging topics, things that are relevant to accounting and financial reporting in the governmental industry. We've been doing that for about fifteen years now. [1:26:58, 1:27:00]: And um we do about once a quarter and we have about [1:27:00, 1:27:17]: Let's see, this last time we had about 250 different people from various entities attend. So should that be something that you're interested in, if you want to learn about debits and credits, we'd um like for you to attend. The information on how to attend is included in the slideshow as well as in the um information that you received earlier. [1:27:18, 1:27:27]: Thank you for your briefing and uh for your continued support and uh and being uh our auditor for the city stoppage all these years. Council questions. [1:27:30, 1:27:34]: Thank you. [1:27:35, 1:27:43]: Hi. Hey. I have a lot of questions. Okay. Um, most of them are procedural questions. Yes, ma'am. Okay. [1:27:43, 1:27:54]: Is your email address H P E N D E R G R A S S at M J C P A dot com? Yes, ma'am. Okay. [1:27:54, 1:27:57]: I sent four emails last year. [1:27:57, 1:27:58]: Requesting [1:27:58, 1:28:01]: The audit results from twenty twenty two. [1:28:02, 1:28:10]: And I didn't get a reply back. So I just wanted to confirm your email address. Um the other question I have is. [1:28:12, 1:28:19]: And you tell me. Okay. Because I'm trying to get a better understanding of this process. And I know how our city [1:28:19, 1:28:20]: has been handling [1:28:21, 1:28:23]: The audit since I've been here. [1:28:23, 1:28:24]: But I'm concerned. [1:28:25, 1:28:27]: So to maintain the integrity. [1:28:27, 1:28:28]: Of the audit. [1:28:28, 1:28:35]: Because it is a independent audit. Yes, ma'am. Independent from any other report. [1:28:35, 1:28:37]: The staff provides [1:28:38, 1:28:40]: When you send the audit results. [1:28:42, 1:28:44]: They're supposed to come from your hands. [1:28:45, 1:28:46]: Into our hands. [1:28:47, 1:28:49]: Not from your hands. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: To staff's hands. [1:28:52, 1:28:53]: For staff to give to us. [1:28:54, 1:28:55]: And that is exactly [1:28:56, 1:28:57]: What happened this year? [1:28:59, 1:29:00]: Last year. [1:29:01, 1:29:05]: In previous years, I'm not saying anybody is doing anything wrong. [1:29:05, 1:29:08]: I just don't want to give the appearance that there is. [1:29:09, 1:29:16]: So industry standard and is outlined in our engagement letter is that we provide all our reports to management to provide to the governing body. [1:29:16, 1:29:20]: Okay, who management being the city manager and [1:29:20, 1:29:24]: I usually provide those to to the city of Startbridge City Treasurer. [1:29:24, 1:29:25]: Okay. [1:29:25, 1:29:30]: So to maintain the integrity and the independence [1:29:30, 1:29:31]: Is it [1:29:32, 1:29:43]: appropriate for you as for you to email the results to the governing body so that there's no interference and that we're getting exactly what you report. [1:29:44, 1:29:54]: I mean, I would probably have to do some research because like I said, I mean, industry standard is such that we we provide that information to management to distribute to the governing body. That's laid out in our engagement letter. [1:29:55, 1:29:58]: Okay, so the council doesn't get the engagement letter. [1:29:59, 1:30:00]: So I wouldn't know what [1:30:00, 1:30:03]: You've agreed to in the engagement letter. [1:30:03, 1:30:04]: Until [1:30:04, 1:30:10]: The actual results are provided to us from staff. That's not independent. [1:30:11, 1:30:26]: So it's my previous understanding that the engagement letter was a presented as a council agenda item at the at the annual I think in January when y'all approve several different things. Mr. Gardner is not. Mr. Gardner, come to mic. It is not a good thing. Come to the mic, please. [1:30:26, 1:30:28]: It has never [1:30:28, 1:30:30]: been presented to the council. [1:30:30, 1:30:31]: At the beginning of the year. [1:30:32, 1:30:33]: At the end of the year. [1:30:34, 1:30:38]: Or in the middle of the year, we only get it when we get the audit results. [1:30:40, 1:30:43]: Need your assistance to make resolve this issue, this concern? [1:30:44, 1:30:44]: Yeah. [1:30:44, 1:30:55]: Well, um it is my understanding of the engagement letter I think comes as part of the audit. Um I know when we um [1:30:55, 1:31:05]: When we put the RFP out obviously those um the RFP comes back with their qualifications and all of that information involving it. Can you speak up Mr. Carter? Yes, ma'am. [1:31:06, 1:31:25]: But it's my understanding of it is when y'all get the audit report, I think a copy of the engagement letter is typically included in that in that document, if I'm not mistaken. And I I think as Miss Penegrass said, I mean, everywhere I've worked in the state of Georgia as city manager. [1:31:26, 1:31:29]: And as a department head is my understanding that that document is sent to [1:31:30, 1:31:37]: Either the finance director, city manager, or management staff, and then on to city council. That's my seven years in East Point, that's how it was done. [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: Okay. [1:31:39, 1:31:42]: Well m doctor, you need to stand by. [1:31:42, 1:31:46]: Mr well Mayor Ford, if I may continue please. I didn't stop you, go ahead. [1:31:46, 1:31:47]: Okay. [1:31:47, 1:31:49]: So this is a independent [1:31:50, 1:31:50]: Audit. [1:31:51, 1:31:52]: It is supposed to [1:31:53, 1:31:54]: Be provided. [1:31:54, 1:31:55]: To the governing body. [1:31:56, 1:31:58]: It is for us. [1:31:59, 1:32:01]: It's for the governing body. [1:32:02, 1:32:04]: Not just for staff. [1:32:06, 1:32:12]: So to make sure we're maintaining the independence of your audit results. [1:32:13, 1:32:14]: What I am requesting is [1:32:15, 1:32:17]: Is that if you would please [1:32:18, 1:32:21]: Please email the audit results to the governing body. [1:32:21, 1:32:24]: You can include the city manager. [1:32:24, 1:32:26]: And the treasurer as well. [1:32:27, 1:32:28]: We should all be getting it. [1:32:28, 1:32:29]: At the same time. [1:32:30, 1:32:33]: I'm not saying anybody is doing anything wrong. [1:32:33, 1:32:38]: All I'm saying is it is independent for a reason. [1:32:39, 1:32:40]: Last year [1:32:40, 1:32:42]: I spent ten months. [1:32:42, 1:32:43]: Asking. [1:32:44, 1:32:47]: For the independent audit results. [1:32:47, 1:32:50]: From twenty twenty two financials. [1:32:51, 1:32:53]: Your audit results [1:32:54, 1:32:57]: And I don't know if it was the complete audit or not. [1:32:58, 1:33:02]: All I saw was several pages that were combined. [1:33:03, 1:33:04]: With the CAFA report. [1:33:05, 1:33:08]: The CAFA report is a finance report. [1:33:08, 1:33:11]: that our finance department prepares. [1:33:11, 1:33:12]: So it was all [1:33:12, 1:33:13]: Intermingled. [1:33:14, 1:33:17]: Авнор с орсо пейджет. [1:33:18, 1:33:19]: I couldn't decipher. [1:33:20, 1:33:23]: What was provided by Malden and Jenkins? [1:33:24, 1:33:25]: Or what staff prepared? [1:33:27, 1:33:28]: This is supposed to be. [1:33:29, 1:33:30]: A independent [1:33:31, 1:33:32]: Audit. [1:33:32, 1:33:36]: І тобі сепарт фенітінс. [1:33:36, 1:33:37]: I spent ten months. [1:33:38, 1:33:39]: Asking. [1:33:40, 1:33:44]: Four times I sent emails. So let me ask you this. [1:33:44, 1:33:47]: If I have a question after today. [1:33:47, 1:33:54]: Am I able to reach out to you and ask you questions regarding our FY 2023 financials? [1:33:55, 1:34:02]: The the standard process is the if council has questions and they direct that to management who directs it to us. [1:34:03, 1:34:05]: So we don't have access. [1:34:05, 1:34:07]: to reach out to you directly. [1:34:12, 1:34:32]: Well let me do let me do this. Something I want to ask I'm asking her I understand what you're asking. But representing the CPA firm. I'm understanding. I want to understand what her and the rest of the council. Stand by a second. You should realize that whatever directive you give to any independent contractor is a good idea. I didn't say I was giving anybody any directions. [1:34:32, 1:34:52]: Directly it should be a consensus from the council to Mayor Ford. It should be a consensus from the council if you want something directly. The council needs to make sure I'm not going well for a consensus from the council. Well so that this independent audit result remains independent. Understand it, but any directive that you may give is out of line with the charge. [1:34:52, 1:35:03]: charter and out of line within if we don't get a consensus from the charter mandates that we have an independent audit performed every year. It doesn't tell us how the CPA firm should conduct it. [1:35:04, 1:35:07]: What I'm asking her as a pro [1:35:07, 1:35:10]: As a professional CPA. [1:35:10, 1:35:11]: representative. [1:35:11, 1:35:13]: She knows her processes. [1:35:13, 1:35:15]: She knows where I'm going. [1:35:15, 1:35:19]: This is a independent audit. [1:35:19, 1:35:21]: Supposed to be completely separate. [1:35:22, 1:35:42]: The purpose of the audit is to make sure there is no waste, fraud, or abuse. If there is waste, fraud, or abuse, it makes no sense to give it to staff for them to keep the books, clean it up, re award, fix whatever adjustments they need to make, and then [1:35:41, 1:35:45]: Send it to the council on order. I'm trying to avoid [1:35:45, 1:36:05]: Any more confusion. May I finish the state? There's a point of order. There's a point of order. Right. I've asked questions. Specific questions, please. I'm going if you will stop cutting me off. May I finish? Go ask specific questions. May I finish. Ask specific questions. [1:36:05, 1:36:24]: I ask specific questions, please. May I finish my questions without any interruption? No, no, I can't guarantee that. From this guy right here, may I finish my questions to Miss Pendergrass since I can't get a hold of her outside of these meetings? [1:36:25, 1:36:45]: She does not respond to me via emails. Point of order, I want to make sure that I understand. Mayor Ford it is customized customary procedurally. Right. This is argumentative and going beyond the thr the pale. Mayor Ford, Mr. Elder. May I finish my question? Mr. [1:36:44, 1:36:47]: I understand, understand. [1:36:48, 1:37:08]: We cannot give you directives unless there are directives on anything unless the entire council agrees to that. You you mentioned about your Pacific Industries, which is to the staff. The fifth city manager is the point of contact there in that aspect. So things, if things go if that happens, it goes to city manager, the city manager needs to give it to the council, unless the council has a claim. [1:37:08, 1:37:13]: Not one individual, not even me. [1:37:13, 1:37:14]: Okay? [1:37:15, 1:37:20]: continue on with answering specific questions that Miss Barber may have. [1:37:21, 1:37:23]: Thank you. May I finish? [1:37:24, 1:37:27]: Without you interrupting me. I can't guarantee that. Go ahead. Okay. [1:37:28, 1:37:29]: Aut of respect. [1:37:30, 1:37:31]: To the council. [1:37:32, 1:37:33]: To the public. [1:37:33, 1:37:35]: And the people who are here. [1:37:35, 1:37:37]: I'm going to keep fighting. [1:37:37, 1:37:39]: For transparency. [1:37:39, 1:37:44]: And the way we govern and the way we do business. [1:37:44, 1:37:47]: We have a contract with Malden and Jenkins. [1:37:48, 1:37:51]: They do what we need for them to do. [1:37:52, 1:37:54]: They are a contractor. [1:37:55, 1:37:59]: I don't know. Ask her specific questions, please. Miss Pendergrass. [1:38:00, 1:38:04]: The engagement letter. Is it signed by management? [1:38:04, 1:38:06]: Yes, ma'am. Okay. We don't have a copy. [1:38:07, 1:38:10]: Of the signed page of the engagement letter. [1:38:12, 1:38:15]: We just have this one page right here. So where's the second page? [1:38:15, 1:38:29]: That's the that's the management letter. The document that you're holding up appears to be the management letter'cause it has our signature at the bottom. The engagement letter um I think was on the agenda, but I agree it was the unsigned copy. I'm not sure why the signed copy wasn't posted. [1:38:29, 1:38:33]: Okay, so yeah, there's a lot of issues. [1:38:34, 1:38:39]: The engagement letter is what I asked for last year and I was expecting it this year as well. [1:38:40, 1:38:43]: All I want is to get a understanding [1:38:43, 1:38:45]: Of what you [1:38:45, 1:38:50]: are supposed to do and what I'm supposed to do. I want to be able to do my job. [1:38:51, 1:38:57]: I can't trust the results of your audit if it's being passed along. [1:38:58, 1:39:04]: And I don't know what changes and I'm not saying that staff or anyone has done anything wrong. [1:39:05, 1:39:13]: All I want is to make sure that it comes from your hands into my hands. So there there's no compromise in between. [1:39:14, 1:39:18]: Absolutely not. My my councilmates see no issue. [1:39:19, 1:39:21]: They see no issue with it. I do. [1:39:21, 1:39:24]: Because it gives way to um [1:39:26, 1:39:27]: Other things. [1:39:27, 1:39:29]: And that's not what we want here. [1:39:30, 1:39:35]: All I want is when I have questions, I want to be able to ask you directly. [1:39:35, 1:39:46]: So going forward, any contractor, I don't care who it is, if I have questions, I I want to be able to ask them directly. I don't wanna have to ask staff to ask the contractor. [1:39:48, 1:39:49]: That's an issue for me. [1:39:50, 1:39:51]: Um the other thing [1:39:52, 1:39:55]: The budget adjustments, I asked for them. [1:39:56, 1:39:56]: Last year. [1:39:57, 1:39:59]: Фоні твої ту фінаншил. [1:39:59, 1:40:03]: You said that you sent them to management, and if you had not sent them, you would send them [1:40:04, 1:40:05]: Well, I never got them. [1:40:06, 1:40:13]: They were provided to management. I'm not sure what the process is to provide documents to council. This is what I'm talking about. Right here. [1:40:13, 1:40:24]: I've asked for budget adjustments. You mean the audit adjustments? Because we don't do budget adjustments. Well, the adjustments that staff made as a result of [1:40:24, 1:40:39]: Your communications Yes ma'am, that would be audit adjustments, not audit adjustments. You're right. Thank you. I'm sorry. Audit adjustments. Those audit adjustments are what I asked for last year and I want them this year. [1:40:39, 1:40:41]: And going forward, I want them. [1:40:41, 1:40:43]: My countsmates, they don't read anything. [1:40:43, 1:40:45]: They don't read contracts or anything. I do. [1:40:46, 1:40:47]: So I like to have those. [1:40:48, 1:40:49]: Um [1:40:51, 1:41:07]: Again, I want to make sure the integrity of your report um remains whole and uncompromised. I would I am requesting that you send your audit results directly to every member of the governing body. [1:41:07, 1:41:08]: At the same time that you send it. [1:41:09, 1:41:12]: To staff, so we don't just get it on the back end. Thank you. [1:41:13, 1:41:33]: Mayor. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Thank you, uh Mr. P Ms. Pendle. I I thank you for being patient with us and uh answering all of the questions that have been placed upon you. The audit process, you said Maldon and Jenkins audit how many cities in Georgia? Over a hundred well, we audit 180 throughout the southeast, across sixty. [1:41:33, 1:41:34]: States. [1:41:34, 1:41:54]: Okay. What you are doing here in Stockbridge is similar in what your format is that you're doing in all the It's the exact same. If we had a a city of two thousand people or if we had the city of Atlanta. [1:41:54, 1:41:55]: Throughout the southeast. Yes, sir. [1:41:56, 1:42:16]: I appreciate what you've done, the work that you put in and the process that you have put forward. And I want to thank you. And I want to s echo what the mayor has has indicated to you. It requires a consensus, a vote of the council and the mayor to make any changes to whatever that process might be. Now I I'm glad that you're going to be able to do [1:42:16, 1:42:36]: You that question was asked, and what you stated was the process that we're following is consistent with what you've seen in in other jurisdictions as well. Okay, in terms of um you've been with us over time, and congratulations that you have been awarded again and brought back because of your expertise uh in this in this area. [1:42:36, 1:42:52]: area. Thank you, sir. We appreciate the opportunity to continue to serve the city. Right. And as far as the financial, overall financial of the city, as a general consensus or comparison to where the rest of the cities are or is the average city in Georgia, where would Stockbridge be? [1:42:53, 1:43:07]: Um, the the city is is doing well. Um, you know, y'all have had s a lot y'all did a lot of new stuff all at the same time. Mm-hmm. And so that has presented challenges, but I feel like staff is working through that well and will continue to do so. [1:43:08, 1:43:16]: Okay. Uh thank you so much for giving us the good news. Thank you. Yes, sir. Any other counseling you got any comments? Mr. Thomas Gway, please. [1:43:16, 1:43:20]: Thank you. And Miss Pendergrass, thank you as well. [1:43:20, 1:43:21]: Um uh [1:43:22, 1:43:27]: I I do wanna speak to a couple of things and and I'm a little disturbed somewhat because [1:43:27, 1:43:30]: I'm a process kind of a person. [1:43:30, 1:43:36]: And all of us here we're duly elected by our citizens here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:43:38, 1:43:42]: And my concern is if one council member [1:43:43, 1:43:45]: has a question. [1:43:47, 1:43:49]: The process should [1:43:50, 1:43:53]: allow that question to go forward. [1:43:54, 1:43:55]: Uh so I'm I'm sorta [1:43:56, 1:44:01]: throwing this out to our city manager and and to our finance department. [1:44:02, 1:44:08]: It shouldn't be where one question from one council member [1:44:08, 1:44:09]: Get stifled. [1:44:10, 1:44:12]: And not being answered. [1:44:14, 1:44:15]: You know, we're all duly elected. [1:44:16, 1:44:18]: And and and and [1:44:19, 1:44:21]: And I I'm just talking about a process now. [1:44:24, 1:44:32]: If any of us have questions, it not only with our auditor, but any question we have with any contract, any anything that we do. [1:44:33, 1:44:35]: If a question come forward [1:44:37, 1:44:39]: It need to be answered. [1:44:39, 1:44:40]: Now [1:44:41, 1:44:42]: If the process is [1:44:44, 1:44:48]: It goes to the city manager and the city manager sends it to you. [1:44:48, 1:44:53]: if it goes to the treasurer and it's send it to you. But my my issue is [1:44:53, 1:44:57]: The question needs to be answered. [1:44:57, 1:44:58]: Number one. [1:44:59, 1:45:01]: So let me ask you this question. Um [1:45:02, 1:45:03]: What date is [1:45:04, 1:45:07]: Did you send this report to the city of Stockbridge? [1:45:07, 1:45:08]: July thirtieth. [1:45:12, 1:45:13]: July thirtieth. [1:45:15, 1:45:19]: Okay, and today is uh September. [1:45:20, 1:45:34]: I don't recall when we actually got this information. Mr. Thomas Gway, please. So I'm I'm just gonna end with this and cause I I I don't want this opportunity [1:45:35, 1:45:36]: To get [1:45:40, 1:45:47]: Go ahead, go ahead, sir. Go ahead, Miss Ms Thomas. I I don't want this issue to to go by without some clarity. [1:45:48, 1:45:50]: You know, and it and it's all about [1:45:51, 1:45:52]: Being efficient. [1:45:53, 1:45:55]: And being effective in government. [1:45:56, 1:45:59]: And the audit is a very important [1:46:00, 1:46:03]: process for any municipality. Yes, sir, I agree. [1:46:04, 1:46:07]: So that's why I'm speaking the way I'm speaking. [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: Дизінформа [1:46:10, 1:46:12]: It is very important. [1:46:12, 1:46:14]: To all of us. [1:46:14, 1:46:16]: It helps us to [1:46:17, 1:46:19]: [6380.2, 6393.1]: And so we can prepare for the future. So that's why I'm I'm sorta saying let's not just scheme over this this concern that we're in right now. I I think it is important that we clear up this process. [1:46:34, 1:46:36]: You know of questions. [1:46:36, 1:46:42]: And and and I still say and I I just don't like the fact that when a council person has a question [1:46:42, 1:46:45]: And that question cannot get answered. [1:46:46, 1:46:49]: It should always be answered. But [1:46:49, 1:46:51]: It's about the process. [1:46:52, 1:46:56]: It shouldn't be bare the question should not be buried in [1:46:56, 1:47:00]: A process that cannot come forward and and that's my concern. [1:47:01, 1:47:01]: So [1:47:02, 1:47:06]: And I'm going close here, but I just want this council to understand that [1:47:07, 1:47:08]: All of us. [1:47:08, 1:47:13]: a duty elected by the people. We all have a responsibility. [1:47:14, 1:47:15]: Some of us may be [1:47:16, 1:47:20]: feel more about our responsibility than others. That's okay. [1:47:21, 1:47:22]: That's life. [1:47:24, 1:47:25]: But the question [1:47:26, 1:47:29]: should be answered. And I'm saying this to the city manager. [1:47:30, 1:47:45]: The question should be answered to the treasurer. The question should be answered. It should not be stifled. It should not be stopped. It should not be buried. The question should always be answered. So we still have to talk about the process. [1:47:46, 1:47:50]: And if the process is the process then [1:47:51, 1:47:59]: We wouldn't be arguing now. The the process will lend itself to all questions being being answered. So [1:47:59, 1:48:02]: Let's just sort of get the process correct. [1:48:03, 1:48:09]: I yield back, Mayor, thank you. Um Mr one second. Mr Gardner, you stepped to the podium. You want to say something, sir? [1:48:09, 1:48:29]: Yes, sir. Um and and you're correct, sir. The process is important and you're correct too, uh, council member. Um as I mentioned to you guys at our retreat that this would be coming forward or this meeting, and the reason why I think Hope got sick, the reason we didn't get it at the end, I think he was sick or something in August. [1:48:29, 1:48:31]: Uh if I'm not mistaken. [1:48:31, 1:48:43]: So we issued the audit, please. We issued the audit on July thirtieth and this I think was the first me like I was too late to get on August. So this is the first meeting I was requested to attend. [1:48:43, 1:48:46]: And that's what I mentioned to council that it was coming on this date. [1:48:46, 1:48:49]: Right, if you're not if you remember correctly. So [1:48:49, 1:48:50]: First of all. [1:48:51, 1:48:56]: You know, no one's here to do any malfeasins. Like you, you you have a fiduciary responsibility, so do I. [1:48:56, 1:49:02]: Um I take my years of experience and my hard work to get me to this point very seriously. [1:49:02, 1:49:04]: And as I tell people I don't look good in orange. [1:49:04, 1:49:05]: And a jumpsuit. [1:49:06, 1:49:06]: I [1:49:08, 1:49:19]: So I I wanted to be clear that nobody's here is engaging in any farm foolery, stealing of money, misappropriation of funds, and the hint thereof is disturbing to me. [1:49:20, 1:49:20]: Mm-hmm. [1:49:24, 1:49:44]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. Thank you, Mayor. And um Mr. Gardner, I'm glad you said that because that was part of my comment. Um I believe that we are all transparent. We I believe that we are doing the best that we can for the city of Stockbridge. And I also believe that we normally we don't reinvent the wheel. [1:49:44, 1:49:44]: [6585.2, 6586.2]: You've heard [1:49:46, 1:50:04]: you know, from our auditors who we voted to hire again for the next year, that this is customary, that this is normal, that all the counties and all the cities that they perform audits for, this is who they send their audit reports to is the treasurer, or to that staff. [1:50:05, 1:50:05]: Um [1:50:06, 1:50:10]: My I agree with Councilman Thomas. Yes, we expect [1:50:10, 1:50:18]: to get answers if we ask a question, because we have a right to get those questions answered in order to vote. [1:50:19, 1:50:21]: The way we feel like we need to vote. [1:50:21, 1:50:24]: In order to represent the city and the districts that we live in. [1:50:25, 1:50:33]: However, we don't have a right to demand and tell you what to do if it's not a consensus vote of three people. [1:50:34, 1:50:44]: And I often hear, you know, we'll do the backup and we'll try to, you know, smooth things over or and make it appear a certain way. No, there are two different things here. [1:50:45, 1:50:51]: One, we ask questions to get information and knowledge to make an educated opinion and vote. [1:50:52, 1:50:53]: And two [1:50:53, 1:51:01]: It takes three council members to vote on policies and procedures in order to change something if we don't like it. [1:51:02, 1:51:13]: Not one person. So we can't speak in a demanding way. And I think our staff isn't trying to hide anything. I think we're, I don't want to micromanage. [1:51:13, 1:51:20]: I'm not paid to micromanage. I I don't I don't get the salaries that our staff gets. [1:51:20, 1:51:25]: We need to allow our staff to do their jobs, and if we find [1:51:27, 1:51:28]: At another time. [1:51:29, 1:51:31]: Or we find throughout the course of of [1:51:32, 1:51:34]: of being here that they're not doing their job. [1:51:35, 1:51:36]: Then that's when we take [1:51:37, 1:51:47]: We we make those discussions in executive session, but at at the current time we still allow our staff to do jobs and we rely on the information that they give us. [1:51:49, 1:51:54]: And we base our opinions off of that and the questions that we answer. Again. [1:51:54, 1:51:57]: It takes three to change policies and procedures. [1:51:57, 1:52:01]: Ordinances, resolutions, adoptions, [1:52:01, 1:52:09]: But yes, we we each individual as an individual person ask questions and ask for certain things and that there's nothing wrong with that. [1:52:09, 1:52:11]: I just think that we need to [1:52:11, 1:52:16]: you know, be aware of our staff. The you know, morale is important. [1:52:17, 1:52:30]: And no one here is hiding anything. I don't want you to think that we're hiding anything. And if you believe that we do are, feel free to call and ask us individually or a question or if we don't have the answer, we'll get the answer for you. [1:52:30, 1:52:33]: But no one's here to to hide anything. [1:52:34, 1:52:35]: And that's unfair to our staff. [1:52:37, 1:52:39]: Mayor Tim Berry. [1:52:39, 1:52:51]: Again, Miss Pendergrass, I wanna thank you and Molden and Jenkins and your team for putting together such a great audit. Thank you, sir. And I think what's uh what's missing in the conversation is that the city of Stockbridge has a good audit. [1:52:52, 1:53:12]: Yes, sir. There's been a lot of debate and a lot of conjecture going back and forth. And I think the the thing that's being lost in this conversation is that we have a clear audit. And uh sometimes that needs to be be echoed. I think it's been stated again that we have had certain individuals that had questions and they're gonna be questions. [1:53:12, 1:53:22]: But I also wanna uh also state for the record that the question was answered to the best of her ability about their internal policies and procedures. [1:53:22, 1:53:37]: And so there are two sides to this. There's Malden and Jenkins' procedures, and then there's the City of Stockbridge's procedures. And where those roads connect is where our business starts. And so when those things don't marry each other or don't look like the way we want them to look. [1:53:38, 1:53:43]: That's where this council comes in and we make the decisions on what needs to look like going forward. [1:53:43, 1:54:03]: But for us to have that conversation today with them on what they're presented, I think is a is unfair. I think it's unfair. And if we have anything internally that we need to change, that's for us to decide and not to have that debate amongst our guests as well as those who have presented this information today. So we need to do our own house cleaning. [1:54:03, 1:54:05]: And that's for us. [1:54:06, 1:54:09]: And that's when mine stops. Thank you. Thank you, sir. [1:54:10, 1:54:13]: Ms. Barber, this will be a last comment for you, that is. [1:54:14, 1:54:18]: Yes, I just wanted to make sure I clarify some things. Um [1:54:20, 1:54:29]: I take my responsibility very seriously. Um, last year when I began asking for the independent audit results. [1:54:30, 1:54:34]: It was because our city was considering imposing a city tax. [1:54:35, 1:54:36]: I wanted to see. [1:54:37, 1:54:46]: Not just the financial status of our city with what our staff provides, but what the independent audit says. [1:54:46, 1:54:48]: The same thing for this year. [1:54:49, 1:54:53]: The council approved once again to impose a city tax. [1:54:53, 1:54:55]: Without seeing [1:54:55, 1:54:57]: The results of the independent audit. [1:54:58, 1:55:01]: You said you provided this independent audit. [1:55:01, 1:55:02]: To staff in July. [1:55:03, 1:55:05]: Well we held public hearings regarding. [1:55:06, 1:55:08]: whether to impose a tax. [1:55:09, 1:55:10]: In July. [1:55:11, 1:55:12]: It would have been [1:55:12, 1:55:13]: Great. [1:55:14, 1:55:16]: To receive the independent audit результат. [1:55:17, 1:55:18]: Angela. [1:55:19, 1:55:21]: Before the council approved. [1:55:22, 1:55:37]: The tax. You have something you want to say, Mr. Larry? Yes, ma'am. With all due respect, if you all remember correctly, property tax notice went out from from Henry County and we had to hold our millers rate by law in the dates prior to when Hope said that that this document came out. [1:55:37, 1:55:39]: I just want to make sure that that's clear. [1:55:39, 1:55:43]: Okay. I know that um Mr Gardner, wait, I don't wanna [1:55:44, 1:55:45]: Hold on. [1:55:45, 1:55:46]: Now this [1:55:46, 1:55:50]: I am not trying to point fingers or blame on any one. [1:55:50, 1:55:51]: Mr. Gardner. [1:55:52, 1:55:54]: Step to the microphone, please, and look at me. [1:55:55, 1:55:57]: What I'm trying to do. [1:55:57, 1:55:59]: Is to get my councilmates. [1:55:59, 1:56:01]: To understand [1:56:01, 1:56:03]: Вот вині то іншу. [1:56:04, 1:56:07]: That we are making the best decision for our city. [1:56:08, 1:56:15]: We can't do that if we don't have all of the financial information to back up the decisions that we're making. [1:56:16, 1:56:19]: Which is why I couldn't vote on the millage. [1:56:20, 1:56:21]: I can make any decision. [1:56:22, 1:56:27]: We didn't have the full financials, the ka audit. We didn't have any of that. [1:56:28, 1:56:31]: And to hear her say that she provided the results in July. [1:56:33, 1:56:38]: Амі і майкінводи а специально мети. [1:56:38, 1:56:41]: We could have had it during, you know, one of the public hearings. [1:56:41, 1:56:49]: That is what my thought process has been. Yes, sir. That's not that I'm thinking that you or anyone else is doing anything wrong. [1:56:49, 1:56:53]: Yes, ma'am. When I I've spent ten months [1:56:53, 1:56:55]: Trying to get answers. [1:56:55, 1:56:56]: So I'm a bit frustrated. [1:56:57, 1:57:00]: Фрустрати показ до резиденці. [1:57:00, 1:57:01]: For us. [1:57:01, 1:57:04]: To make decisions that are in the best interest of them. [1:57:04, 1:57:07]: I want to be able to justify the decisions that I make. [1:57:08, 1:57:13]: I can't do that if I don't have all of the supporting documents and all of the information. [1:57:15, 1:57:18]: That's all I want my councilmates to understand. [1:57:19, 1:57:22]: Clearly how important an independent audit is. [1:57:22, 1:57:26]: I don't mind standing alone on an issue. I do not. [1:57:27, 1:57:31]: А вил файт тоді проин. [1:57:31, 1:57:36]: This is a independent audit, should be separate from anything else. [1:57:37, 1:57:38]: That's all. [1:57:39, 1:57:59]: Mr. Alexander Goy, please. Let me just close by saying this. Councilman Tumble, let me just follow up. I I wholeheartedly agree that the answer should be returned every time. We have a right to have that answer being returned every single time. Uh my point earlier was just the process as you was described it. [1:57:59, 1:58:19]: But let me let me make something real clear to everybody. This audit is your audit. It's not my audit. It's not the city manager's audit. It's yours. And our desire is to have the professionals make the decision so nothing political is entered into the process. That's why there is a window between us and [1:58:19, 1:58:39]: In that report. You would not want to think that the audit is being shaded by anything political with the officials getting involved in the numbers. That's why that wall is between us and the numbers, because you don't want the decision to be political. You want the numbers to be clean without free of political process. [1:58:39, 1:58:59]: And I think that's what we have, and I believe and I know that's what we have achieved. So thank you, Ms. Pendegraph. I need a motion to accept the audit, please. So moved. So Mr. Alexander and a second to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. So you name this decision. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Penegraph. Look forward to a successful 2025. [1:58:59, 1:59:00]: [7140.9, 7148.5]: All right, the old business. Um what we have here is Streetlight Master Plan presentation. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:59:19, 1:59:39]: Yes, good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. Evening. Uh tonight we come before you. In your packet, you have a copy of the proposed City of Stockbridge guidelines for street lighting. And one of the things that uh we discussed is about different types of poles in different areas, whether they're gonna be metal pole or wooden poles. And also [1:59:39, 1:59:59]: one of the things this document uh outlines is that in all subdivisions they would be underground so those would have metal poles. So I've asked uh Mr. Joe Cobb with Georgia Power, he's our lighting rep to be present at this meeting so that if you have any questions or concerns, I know one of the [1:59:59, 2:00:19]: projects we were looking at was the Jodico Road next to the bri uh bridges at Jodico about the black metal poles and things of that nature. So I asked Mr. Cobb to come here so he can give you more information as to why in certain areas there are wooden poles and in certain areas there are mud metal poles, if you have any questions. [2:00:20, 2:00:27]: New question for'em. Anybody? You good? anybody? No question on street lights? [2:00:28, 2:00:29]: I think we're good on that. [2:00:29, 2:00:32]: Yes, sir. Yep. Yes sir, go ahead, please. [2:00:32, 2:00:34]: Mr. Aaron, if you would [2:00:35, 2:00:47]: Just reiterate or iterate um costs and who pays. I think uh that just need to be known. I I don't want misinformation to get out. [2:00:47, 2:01:07]: Well, recently we adopted street lighting districts where in neighborhoods and subdivisions that they do have street lights, those uh residents of that neighborhood would pay the street lights for those areas and also on the major thoroughway thoroughfares and street lights and things of that nature, the city pays those street. [2:01:07, 2:01:08]: Street lights. [2:01:09, 2:01:10]: Thank you. [2:01:11, 2:01:19]: If no question, go ahead please. Yes. Um Mr. Aaron and I don't know if this falls under this, but [2:01:19, 2:01:24]: The last meeting you said that you were compiling a list of the areas. [2:01:25, 2:01:30]: including the um newly annexed areas for street lights. [2:01:31, 2:01:35]: You haven't provided that list to the council, and I wanted to make sure. [2:01:35, 2:01:39]: That those newly annexed areas are indeed. [2:01:39, 2:01:40]: On your list. [2:01:40, 2:02:00]: The newly annexed areas, the majority of them were in streetlight districts in Henry County. So those already have streetlights. What we were requested was the major thoroughfares was it was Valley Hill Road, Flippin Road, it was Jodico Road, Walt Stevens Road. Those were the requests. [2:02:00, 2:02:20]: That we had, and we presented that information at that meeting, but it was tabled because Councilman Alexander had some questions about the Jodica Road and whether we could put the black metal poles to put street lights on. And so here we are bringing that information back after we've researched it and had our conference. [2:02:20, 2:02:40]: consultation with Mr. Cobb as to why and why not you cannot put black metal poles everywhere. Because the polls doesn't just have Georgia Power utility on it. They also have other utilities. So I'll let Mr. Cobb speak to that because he did the analysis for the Jodico Road. [2:02:40, 2:02:51]: We have the information. It was presented at the f original meeting, but it was tabled because of the questions about the Jodico Road. [2:02:51, 2:02:52]: Thank you, sir. [2:02:56, 2:03:16]: Sure, I'll try to answer the questions. Thank you for the opportunity to come and uh field those questions for the council here. Um we really have to look at roadways and wood poles versus the metal poles kind of on a case by case basis. And it takes into account, as uh Mr. Aaron stated, whether there are other utilities that are on the poles. [2:03:16, 2:03:23]: such as cable, uh bell maybe on the pole, uh the the backspacing from the back of curb. [2:03:24, 2:03:44]: Can either allow or disallow us to put up a aluminum pole with underground wire for a more decorative, more appealing look. The photometrics, the lighting levels that are required for streets and roads vary based on the traffic and the pedestrian conflict. So we have to run lighting levels. [2:03:44, 2:04:04]: Level studies to make sure that we're providing adequate lighting. Sometimes that can be done from one side of the road. Sometimes you have to involve both sides of the road. And the existing infrastructure that may or may not be there could be overhead or underground, can come into conflict with the type of pole you might prefer. [2:04:04, 2:04:24]: And then you just have to kind of back that all out and see, you know, are you willing to pay the cost for the underground decorative poles versus using the existing infrastructure there with the wood poles? So it's it's just it it really is a case-by-case basis on a road by road that we'd look at on each and every one and then [2:04:24, 2:04:28]: And just mix that with your desire for the appearance of that project. [2:04:29, 2:04:49]: Sir. Okay, please. So I think the the desire is to have the metal poles because we have the metal poles already on the new thoroughfare, which is Chin Parkway. Chin Parkway, which is the new road, the$54 million road project that we have coming through the area. GDOT approved the project. [2:04:49, 2:05:09]: Sure. And from Hudson Bridge Road all the way down to Jonesboro Road, the ones that are between Jodico Road and Mount Olive, they're already there. They're black model poles that are already in that location. Right. The desire was to be consistent with that, and certainly for new development that would come in, we would want them more. [2:05:09, 2:05:29]: decorative look to make sure that it's being consistent with what we have. Because if they are going the extra mile and we're having the developers go the extra mile, we just wanted to be able to do that too. And I would think we want to do that on Walt Stevens. I would think that we want to do that on North Henry Boulevard or all of these major corridors. Uh [2:05:28, 2:05:47]: if possible to do so because it is it is an improvement. Right now we got these polls right now that are look like this versus a great appearance that we would all desire. So certainly I'm supportive of making sure that we do that at every commercial location if possible. [2:05:47, 2:05:57]: Sure. And um the transition from a wood pole with overhead uh utilities, whether it's electric, cable, um [2:05:57, 2:06:16]: Following the case. Let me let me quite clarify. Doesn't have to be e or or you got a metal pole at the r the wooden pole that's already there. Doesn't need to be in conflict. You put the metal pole like we have on the subdivision, we put the poles out front, right uh and run them along uh closer to the right of way so they're not in conflict with what you have on the pole. [2:06:16, 2:06:36]: It it'll again kinda go back to the the spacing behind the road, uh what's available across the street, photometrics. Uh we're more than happy to look at putting in the decorative poles where possible. Um, although, you know, there are gonna be some times where there are conflicts. Right, just like that Jodico location, it's about there's wooden poles there, they're about they're really about [2:06:36, 2:06:56]: About 75 feet off the road. Correct. So we there's plenty of space to go into the right-of-way. And certainly Walt Stevens has a long uh right-of-way as well. And certainly we want to do things as best that we possibly can. So I'm supportive of this particular program and making sure that we get uh the best as possible. [2:06:56, 2:07:11]: And then it also applied us, it allowed subdivisions who don't have enough lighting in there already to go back at their cost, Mr. Aaron, right, and to add additional street lights in their subdivision because there'll be special service districts, correct? [2:07:13, 2:07:33]: Yes, sir. And also but but keep in mind, even though on some major thoroughfares you do the black decorative poles doesn't necessarily mean the wooden poles go away. No. You're just gonna add additional and then you're gonna have that clutter where you got, okay, if I already got twenty wooden poles and you're trying to put black stuff. [2:07:33, 2:07:53]: street light poles, then you put on another twenty black street light poles. So now you got forty instead of the twenty. So I I certainly understand that. I don't think it'd be necessary to put twenty. I think we go. We what what they did over there at uh at the on the existing roadway is beautiful. They're separated quite a bit. [2:07:53, 2:08:13]: They're not right next to each other. I think between the w original road that's in there, Jodeco, and the first turn, there might be like two. So it's not like a lot of lighting because they're high intensity lights. So again, I'm supportive of this program and doing what's necessary. So I would make a motion to support this if [2:08:13, 2:08:26]: Yeah, I do. I have one one um more question. And and I know this probably doesn't have anything to do with [2:08:26, 2:08:30]: So the lights around the amphitheater um as [2:08:31, 2:08:35]: Did you use this program here for it? [2:08:36, 2:08:44]: No, the lights around the amphitheater was a part of the amphitheater development. So it had it on its own lighting plan. It was separate from this. [2:08:44, 2:08:47]: Okay. I'm asking only because it seems [2:08:50, 2:08:53]: I got my Georgia Power Bill last week. [2:08:54, 2:08:55]: Um it was [2:08:56, 2:08:57]: Excessive. [2:08:57, 2:09:02]: But nonetheless, I'm just thinking in terms of how we can reduce costs. Um [2:09:02, 2:09:05]: And I certainly don't want to hold up the progress. Um [2:09:06, 2:09:10]: You can work with містер Алекскаунсман Александр он Джотико Род. [2:09:11, 2:09:14]: And whatever he'd like to see, but I certainly want us to move forward. [2:09:14, 2:09:19]: Um, with Valley Hill Road and those other NX areas as you originally presented. [2:09:20, 2:09:21]: But I still wanted to [2:09:21, 2:09:25]: ask about the um lighting around the amphitheater, it seems like [2:09:25, 2:09:27]: It's a lot of lights. [2:09:27, 2:09:30]: And they're only used on the weekends, mostly. [2:09:33, 2:09:38]: But it has nothing to do with this. So I'll talk to you offline about my concerns, Mr. Erin. [2:09:40, 2:09:41]: Mr. Barrett, go away, please. [2:09:41, 2:10:01]: Yes. Mr. Aaron, just from our earlier conversations, I just wanted I know we are on the project and those areas have been already identified and highlighted, but for the for a point of clarity, can you express to the people for record, for those who are not on this particular plan who may be in not in a subdivision or maybe on their own private role like the banks drive and other [2:10:01, 2:10:06]: the neighborhoods that may be like that that would like to get street lights, what that procedure for them looks like. [2:10:06, 2:10:23]: So if I know we've received some calls from the residents on Banks Drive. And one of the things is it outlines the process and how you go about requesting street lights. It's kind of similar to the petition for uh speed humps. [2:10:23, 2:10:28]: I think it's like fifty one p percent or so of the residents. [2:10:28, 2:10:34]: in that neighborhood or subdivision would have to agree to pay the assessment before the street lights are installed. [2:10:36, 2:10:56]: I'd have to go back and look specifically. I know it's a majority of the residents have to agree to pay the assessment. When Georgia Power comes out, they give us a cost. They'll say it's 13 lights and it costs X amount. So that's divided up among the residents in the neighborhood, and they have to agree to pay the assessment. [2:10:56, 2:10:59]: before the city wouldn't have the lights installed. [2:11:00, 2:11:11]: All right, thank you, sir. Mr. Addison, go ahead with your motion. All right, we'll say this to Mayor Pro Timberry, you got lucky, Rock Corey gonna have those metal. So you good. I'll make a motion to approve the pro program. [2:11:11, 2:11:12]: Is there a second? [2:11:13, 2:11:18]: Mr. Barrett, second, in all favour, please indicate the decision. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you very much. [2:11:19, 2:11:39]: What we're gonna go on next is our public hearing. And obviously, I'll read the public hearing rules. And the first item for public hearing will actually be a continuance of a previous public hearing we had uh last month. But let me read these public hearing rules. Please mute all your cell phones, all uh electrical devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing nine, please fill out the form available on the [2:11:39, 2:11:59]: table and hand to the city clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant or their representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with or any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes [2:11:59, 2:12:19]: To speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended by the discretion of the counsel. Please keep comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments, personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from applauding. [2:12:19, 2:12:30]: or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes a speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the council, staff, or the audience. [2:12:30, 2:12:50]: All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and a building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve [2:12:50, 2:13:10]: Part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire 10 minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions andor concerns. The presiding officer will call for the motion, second for the motion, and will have any necessary. [2:13:10, 2:13:29]: Discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the present officer will call for a vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. First up this evening will be item number six because item five was no action was needed. Rezoning case RZ 2024-05 located in Council District 5. [2:13:29, 2:13:30]: is continued. [2:13:30, 2:13:50]: Consideration to request a rezoning of property five two four excuse me five excuse me four two five Country Club Drive to rezone the property from OI Office Institution Institutional to C two General Commercial to allow for a hotel boutique. The applicant is Stuart Hope of StarPridge. [2:13:50, 2:14:00]: Pro pro ProCo LLC. The property is located on land lot fourteen in District 7 with a 6.92 acres within the city of Stockbridge. Mr. Anderson, please. [2:14:02, 2:14:18]: Mayor and Councillor, if if I may, I I know that there have been some questions, but I just wanna make sure that everybody had access to the memo that Miss Valerie Ross sent you all from planning and zoning about the zoning matters and make sure you all have that uh readily available. If not I can email it to you all right now. But you all have it. [2:14:18, 2:14:27]: Well we've received I don't have it handy f right in front of me and I don't know if the rest of the council has it handy in that aspect at all either. If not I if not I can email a separate copy. I'll do that for you all. [2:14:27, 2:14:28]: No. [2:14:28, 2:14:29]: Okay. [2:14:30, 2:14:31]: Ms. Anza, please. [2:14:32, 2:14:34]: Okay, good evening, Mayor. Um [2:14:36, 2:14:45]: We need to resume um this um public hearing um on August twelfth, um at the last meeting um uh [2:14:46, 2:14:49]: We had h we heard the uh public comments from all the citizens. [2:14:49, 2:14:51]: And uh staff report. [2:14:52, 2:14:52]: And um [2:14:53, 2:14:55]: And we also heard from the applicant. [2:14:55, 2:14:58]: Uh council was deliberating and council. [2:14:58, 2:15:01]: made some requests of the uh applicant [2:15:01, 2:15:04]: And the applicant went back and uh addressed those [2:15:05, 2:15:05]: Concerns. [2:15:06, 2:15:09]: And uh they uh they sent the email address to council member Alexander on [2:15:10, 2:15:16]: August the twenty seventh, addressing those um those concerns and explaining to the council how they handle those issues. [2:15:17, 2:15:37]: So on that note, um I would imagine the applicant uh excuse me not the applicant, the individuals that are actually uh selling the property, we did want some questions and concerns and and have the have a conversation with them. I'm assuming uh that uh they are present to answer any questions that the council may have. Yes, sir, they're present. Yeah, come forward please. All right. [2:15:44, 2:15:45]: Yes, sir. [2:15:46, 2:16:02]: Of course. For that for recording, I'll give it to Mr. Thomas here for his questions, sir. Shorts. Uh John Jordan, um with Hector Walker Jordan, two hundred five, Corporate Center Drive, sweep B. Stockbridge Georgia, three hundred two eighty one. [2:16:03, 2:16:04]: Any any lady here? [2:16:05, 2:16:13]: Ruby Anna Whitworth, eighty-nine Braymore, Mills Drive, Lawrenceville, Georgia, zip code three hundred forty-four. All right. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. [2:16:13, 2:16:33]: I wanna thank you all for being here. Um basically wanna follow up from the last meeting. There were some concerns about the tenants being able to actually find or move or find residency in a in a time. [2:16:33, 2:16:38]: So can you give us an update or all of the tenants uh out? [2:16:39, 2:16:40]: As of today. [2:16:41, 2:17:01]: Uh the tenants are not out as of today. They were given a ninety day notice instead of a thirty day notice uh a couple of weeks ago. Um so they're in the process of making arrangements for that. And actually uh Miss Rubiana is here with us today. She is the operational the division operations director for Georgia and Alabama and [2:17:00, 2:17:19]: um she's prepared a little uh presentation for thank you for that. Let me j I'm gonna finish this and then you can respond. I think it was nineteen um individuals that was there at our last meeting. That's my recollection. And I believe Miss Rubiana can probably [2:17:19, 2:17:22]: Yes, right now we have fourteen residents still there. [2:17:22, 2:17:24]: Okay, so [2:17:24, 2:17:30]: Can you get into the process and and the timeline that they would be allowed to [2:17:30, 2:17:41]: uh to f you know, relocate and what assistance, if any, that y'all are giving to to assist them in finding uh uh a a place. [2:17:41, 2:18:01]: Sure. So we did provide them with a 90-day notice, not only the residents, but the staff as well. We have contacted the uh neighboring assisted livings in the area to let them know that we will be closing so that they can come in, talk to the residents, complete assessments so that if they need to relocate, they can do so. [2:18:01, 2:18:21]: Also, a part of our company, we have two other sister properties in the Georgia market. Um, the closest one being Smyrna, Georgia. So we did host the residents as of last Friday so that they could come and tour the facility so they could make a decision on whether or not they would like to stay with the same company. And with that, we would be able to honor their [2:18:21, 2:18:23]: same rate if they decided to transfer. [2:18:24, 2:18:28]: Same rate, that is great. So when you say ninety days, ninety days from [2:18:29, 2:18:33]: Nine days from um August the nineteenth. [2:18:34, 2:18:37]: Okay. Thank you, Mayor. I yield back. Mr. Alexander. [2:18:38, 2:18:58]: Yes, uh I certainly appreciate it um that you are endeavoring to work with the residents in um in a compassionate way. Um and to be able to make this transition uh as less painful as possible uh for the existing residents there. So it's since the time of [2:18:58, 2:19:18]: of our last meeting, uh about five residents have relocated, which you're indicating, and you're indicating that you would go along and you would also them the same rate at a s at the sister or brother uh facility so that the financial impact wouldn't be uh as would be minimized. [2:19:18, 2:19:25]: That's correct. Okay. So uh is there anything else that you would like us to know uh about this particular process? [2:19:26, 2:19:46]: Um uh outside of the residents, we do have our valued employees and we are working alongside them to ensure that they do have a smooth transition as well. Um I'm thrilled to announce that out of the two employees that I've been working closely with, um business office manager and resident care coordinator, we have been able to offer them transitions. [2:19:46, 2:20:01]: I do plan to work with them closely as far as our frontline staff. If they need letters of recommendation, we're happy to do that, as well as host resume workshops so that if they need resumes put together to get out into the workforce, we're happy to do that too. [2:20:02, 2:20:22]: Okay. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Any council, any other questions for them right now? Anybody else? Okay, so uh Mr. Anderson, uh the the individual that plans to upon whatever decision council comes plans to actually make the uh produce the boutique hotel and I imagine she's present, would uh like to see if she wants to come forward or come forward any questions. [2:20:22, 2:20:24]: that the council may have for this time. [2:20:29, 2:20:34]: Yes, I'm here. My name is Vena Skirvin at two seven zero Prairie View Place, Atlanta, Georgia, three oh three one one. [2:20:34, 2:20:54]: Thank you for your patience. Council, any questions for all? Yes. Ms. Thank you so much for coming back and uh wanting to bring uh uh a new business to uh the city. Uh you I just want to make sure that so everybody understands here everything that has been stated here, you are in agreement with the time. [2:20:54, 2:21:01]: table in the transition on the resident and the compassionate process that the council has required. You are in agreement with that. [2:21:01, 2:21:02]: Uh yes, I have no objections. [2:21:03, 2:21:15]: Okay, talk about um as this moves through and then uh maybe Mr. Jordan or someone could talk about again just kinda a little bit briefly to talk about the project that you're hoping to bring. [2:21:18, 2:21:34]: Uh well I'm hoping to bring a uh upper upscale boutique hotel um to the facility. I'd like to um renovate it. I'm thinking about a six to nine month renovation process uh before we'd be able to um you know have an opening date. Um the [2:21:34, 2:21:53]: uh hotel would be uh soft branded. Um we're looking at uh either Hilton or um Hyatt or an IHG or a Wendham um soft branded property. Um and we're just you know looking forward to uh being able to um you know execute this process. [2:21:53, 2:21:56]: All right. Thank you so much. Any other questions, Council? [2:21:57, 2:22:05]: If if not, okay, thank you. Appreciate it. All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is open uh a public hearing. You can have a seat, please. I'm sorry, Mr. Go ahead, Ms. Sampson. [2:22:06, 2:22:11]: I I don't need more well my make I wanna make sure I I'm brought proper here. Attorney. [2:22:14, 2:22:21]: Okay, now Dom I need to open up for any public comments at all? If we we reconvene this or continu you know, we didn't end it. [2:22:29, 2:22:34]: Okay, well I did close out public comments at that time. I did. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. All right. No pro [2:22:37, 2:22:57]: All right, understand. Got it. So on that that note, then actually I just need a motion to to accept this uh proposal for this to to go forward. Uh mayor, I would like to make a motion to approve uh what we have described here uh with this transition with the approved ninety days as we have already. [2:22:57, 2:23:17]: Already outlined in the put in this process to transition. I think we had discussed some additional conditions such as lighting along the frontage of the property and as well for us to be able to do that, and then flock cameras at the entryway for security. [2:23:17, 2:23:34]: security and purposes. And you had also enumerated that the uh gate would actually be a functional gate uh at this point. The gate now is left open all the time, but it would be required that that gate would be functional uh for uh for entry to the property. [2:23:36, 2:23:55]: Um yes and I'd request it that that be uh at night time. Right. Yes. Absolutely. My motion that's that'll be my motion for approval. Is there a second to motion? Second. Mr. Barrett, second. All favor please indicate. Congratulations, everybody. Fantastic. Thank you. Thank you. We'll move on. [2:23:57, 2:24:17]: Okay, so what's next? Actually, uh six, I mean seven, eight, uh what is it, seven, eight, nine, ten, right? We were it's gonna be re uh redone on October 14th. Well, we have comprehensive plan amendment CP two zero two four-06 located in Council District 5. Consideration for request of comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use. [2:24:17, 2:24:31]: use the designation of two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eaglesland Parkway, from a low density mixed use to a medium density uh residential to allow for the construction of a town home development. The applicant is uh LI Route. [2:24:31, 2:24:51]: Third twenty-three LLC and agents George Harper Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as are listed below at thirteen point six four acres within the stockbridge city limits. Parcel dash uh parcel number zero six nine-0109000 contains ten point six one acres and landline. [2:24:51, 2:25:08]: Lots one and two of District Seven and Eleven. Parcel number zero seven uh zero seven zero that's zero one zero zero one zero zero zero twenty six fourteen highway forty two north contains three point zero three acres of land lot one of district seven. Mr. Anderson, please. [2:25:09, 2:25:13]: Mayor Ford. Yes sir. Uh are you gonna read all three? [2:25:13, 2:25:33]: Oh excuse me. Excuse me. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. The rezoning case which would be number twelve, rezoning case RZ dash two zero two four-six, located in Council District Five. Consideration of request for a rezoning uh rezoning to rezone two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eaglesland Park. [2:25:33, 2:25:53]: From C2 General Commercial to MFR, multiple family residential allow for construction of townhome development. The applicant is LI Route 23 LLC and the agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as listed below with 13.64 total acres within the Starbury City limits. Various requests are R and [2:25:53, 2:26:13]: V das two zero two four four four four four four zero six would reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from required fifty feet to thirty feet. Parcel number zero six nine dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero zero contains ten point six one acres land lots one and two of districts seven and eight. [2:26:13, 2:26:33]: Parcel number 070-01001000, 2612 Highway 42 North contains 3.01 acres in land lot one of District 7. And also we have the variance RV-2024-02. [2:26:33, 2:26:46]: Request number one, located Council District 5. Consideration of a variance request for two variances on two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eagles Land Parkway to allow for the construction of townhome development. [2:26:46, 2:27:06]: Variance request number one will reduce the front yard setbacks of the town hall lots from required 50 feet to 30 feet. The applicant LI Route 23 LLC and the agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels are listed below at 13.64 total acres within the Starbury City limits. [2:27:06, 2:27:26]: Procel number 069-01009000 contains 10.61 acres in landlots 1 and 2 of districts 7 and 8. Proxcel number 070-01001000. 2612 Highway 42 North contains 3.03 acres in landlord district. [2:27:26, 2:27:27]: Тик О [2:27:28, 2:27:48]: And actually I got another one here, right? Yes, sir. Variance case RV 202024-01 variance request number two. Uh located Council District 5. Consideration of variance requests with two variances on two parcels on the east side of 42 North, south of Eagles Landing Parkway to allow for the construction of town hall. [2:27:48, 2:27:49]: [8869.7, 8889.7]: Variance request number two would reduce the side of six yard setbacks to the townhome lots between buildings from acquired 15 feet to 10 feet. The advocate is R1 Route 23 LLC and the agent is George Harper Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels enlisted below with 13.64 total acres within the stopper. [2:28:09, 2:28:10]: Yeah. [2:28:11, 2:28:31]: Parcel number 069-01009000 contains ten point six one acres. In a landlot one and two, district seven and eight. And parcel number seven zero, excuse me, zero seven zero zero one zero zero one zero zero zero. Twenty-six twelve highway forty-two contains three point three three point zero three. [2:28:31, 2:28:51]: Three acres of landlot one in District 7. All right, Mr. Addison, it's now yours. Okay, good evening. I'd like to discuss the um the comprehensive comprehensive plan request first. The applicant is proposing a hundred-unit town townhome development at a density rate of seven point three three units per acre. Uh once again, the process. [2:28:50, 2:29:10]: Property address 2612 Highway 42 North. 13.64, approximately 13.64 acres. Currently the site is vacant and wooded with it with an existing deceleration lane and entrance on the right. The current future land use designation is low density mixed use, and the applicant is proposed. [2:29:10, 2:29:20]: To go to medium density, uh medium density residential. The current zoning of the property is C2. [2:29:20, 2:29:22]: Here's the vicinity Mount [2:29:23, 2:29:37]: Here's the the site is highlighted in burnt orange. And you can see it's located near a CNC fence. Uh parkside at Ingles Landing is across the street. Uh elite collision, a CVS is down the street and a marathon gas station. [2:29:41, 2:29:43]: Here's the aerial photo of the of the site. [2:29:46, 2:30:00]: The sign was posted by site visit on July 16, 2024. Here is the existing uh deceleration lane that I previously mentioned, and that exits into the property of the proposed townhome development. [2:30:11, 2:30:14]: Here's another photo of the site. [2:30:16, 2:30:35]: zoning history, the the larger parcel was is two partials. The larger parcel was rezoned from RA, Residential Agriculture, to C two on May sixth, nineteen ninety-seven as part of a larger property. In addition, the existing deceleration lane at the subject property was completed in two thousand and two. [2:30:42, 2:31:02]: Uh a little background on the development. The applicant once again the applicants propose to build a townhome development with a hundred units at a density of approximately seven units per acre acre on the eastern side of Highway 42, north and south of Eagles Landing Parkway. The size of the proposed townhomes are twenty-four by one hundred and ten, which is twenty [2:31:02, 2:31:08]: twenty six hundred and forty square feet. The proposed townhome development would include the following amenities, pool, [2:31:08, 2:31:28]: Pool for pool pavilion with restrooms, a playground, or community mailbox, and 2.8 acres of open space. The proposed development would also include six parking spaces for visitors and 19 parking spaces close to the pool. The proposed townhome development will include a 25-foot buffer along the eastern bank. [2:31:28, 2:31:40]: boundary line adjacent to the lakeside at Eagles Landing Subdivision. In addition, the prop the proposed of proposed development will be gated and will include a five foot sidewalk on both sides of the internal streets. [2:31:41, 2:31:43]: The proposed town home development will utilize the existing [2:31:44, 2:31:55]: Acceleration lane located on Highway 42 North, and we'll install an emergency access road on Highway 42 North. In addition, the proposed townhome development will have main access from Park Place Subdivision. [2:32:02, 2:32:07]: Here's a um a copy of the um the site plan and the layout. [2:32:14, 2:32:19]: Here's a rendering of the um of the townhomes. You see they have full brick facade. [2:32:24, 2:32:27]: Here's another photo of the uh of the elevation. [2:32:31, 2:32:45]: So as it relates to the um the comp plan, staff' uh recommended approval of the change from low density mixed use to medium density residential. Now I proceed to the uh rezoning. [2:32:49, 2:32:52]: Here's a picture picture of the city of Stockbridge future land use map. [2:32:59, 2:33:19]: Here's the density of the surrounding properties that surround the proposed development. You got to the north, you got low density mixed use. To the south, you got low density mixed use. To the east, you got low density mixed use and high density mixed use. And to the west, you got high density residential, low density mixed use, low density. [2:33:19, 2:33:21]: low density mix use and low density mix use. [2:33:23, 2:33:43]: The high density residential to the west makes the um the proposed development compatible with the surrounding community. As you can see, here's the density of the surrounding um developments, existing developments. At Brandon's Walk, you got forty-six units at four units per acre. You got Lakeside at Eagles Landing, which has 90 units, which [2:33:43, 2:33:53]: three units per acre. You got Parkside at Eagles Landing with 240 214 units with three units per acre. And this proposed development will have seven units per acre. [2:33:56, 2:34:02]: Here's the surrounding land use densities map. This is just a map of what I just previously mentioned. [2:34:05, 2:34:15]: And uh the proposal is the um consistent with the city of Stockbridge comprehensive plan. So as it relates to the rezoning, staff recommends approval as that also on that one. [2:34:24, 2:34:32]: So the variance, the applicant is requesting two variants, a variance to reduce the front yard setback of the townhome lots from the required fifty feet to thirty feet. [2:34:33, 2:34:37]: And variance request number two, reduce the side yard setback to the town home lots. [2:34:37, 2:34:40]: between buildings from the required fifteen feet to ten feet. [2:34:40, 2:35:00]: We were we were m excuse me sir. We rem the thirty feet was already changed, right? Uh we did a presentation on that, but we got to actually bring that back before council n uh at the next uh city council meeting for adoption. We presented it to um you guys as a presentation to get your input before we move forward to the planning commission. Okay, so we have to put in the conditions. [2:35:00, 2:35:20]: Yes, but we we are recommending a thirty-foot front yard setback on townhomes. Uh the industry standard is around twenty-five feet. But we think uh thirty feet would be best for the city of Stockbridge. Yes. Um so as a result um of the proposal that we currently have in process, uh staff [2:35:20, 2:35:21]: recommend approval. [2:35:21, 2:35:22]: For the required [2:35:23, 2:35:26]: Uh reduction in the front yard setback from fifty feet to thirty feet. [2:35:27, 2:35:29]: And also um variance number two. [2:35:29, 2:35:47]: Because this would be such a high quality um development, uh, with the full brick facade and everything, staff didn't feel like it would be detrimental to the community to reduce the required side yard set back from fifteen feet to ten. So staff recommended approval for both for both variances and that completes my report. [2:35:48, 2:35:52]: All right, council questions do you have for Mr. Anderson? Um go ahead please. [2:35:53, 2:35:56]: Miss Anderson, uh so it's all brick? It's on all [2:35:56, 2:35:59]: Uh no the the facade, the front elevation is all brick. [2:36:00, 2:36:02]: They will have a heart um hardy plank on the side. [2:36:02, 2:36:03]: Okay. [2:36:04, 2:36:18]: We'll we'll we'll talk about as we talk about the the the uh there are variations for uh the conditions. They'll present that when the when the applicant presents. Yeah, we uh oh yeah some c conditions as associated with the rezoning. I need to go back and pr and read into the record. [2:36:30, 2:36:48]: It's gonna be fifty percent and fifty percent like the other one. Okay, um fifty and fifty. For the for the rezoning um approval, st staff did recommend uh several conditions. Number one, flock cameras will be located at the entrance of the proposed town home development. [2:36:48, 2:36:56]: A twenty five foot buffer shall be established along the northern and southern portion of the subject property. A mandatory HOA shall be established along the [2:36:57, 2:36:59]: The units shall not exceed one hundred units. [2:37:00, 2:37:03]: The rental shall not exceed ten percent of the proposed town home development. [2:37:04, 2:37:06]: A male kiosk shall be established. [2:37:06, 2:37:08]: The rendering shown with the submitted [2:37:08, 2:37:28]: Application on July first, 2024 shall be followed. The brick is shown on the front and on the side is showing hardy hardy plank siding. But these are um similar to the most of these conditions come from our proposal that we have on the way for the um the revamping of the MFR standards. So they're pretty standard for us. [2:37:28, 2:37:29]: No. [2:37:31, 2:37:32]: Okay, any more questions, Ms. Gantt? [2:37:33, 2:37:33]: No. [2:37:33, 2:37:35]: All right, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:37:35, 2:37:36]: Yes, thank you. [2:37:38, 2:37:41]: I live in Lakeside, subdivision. [2:37:42, 2:37:53]: Is there any homeowners in Lake's high okay um you live behind where this proposed development will be? Please please please address Ms. Darrison, please. Um [2:37:53, 2:38:02]: I live in Lakeside Subdivision. Lakeside is divided by East Lake Parkway. I only represent the side. [2:38:02, 2:38:03]: The other side. [2:38:05, 2:38:12]: Councilman Alexander represents the other side of my subdivision. It's the way the council drew the district lines intentionally. [2:38:13, 2:38:14]: Nonetheless. [2:38:15, 2:38:15]: Um [2:38:16, 2:38:17]: I did get out in the community. [2:38:18, 2:38:21]: Um Lakeside and Parkside on Saturday. [2:38:21, 2:38:23]: And I posted notice. [2:38:24, 2:38:25]: on mailboxes. [2:38:26, 2:38:31]: to make sure that the homeowners knew that this development proposal was gonna be presented today. [2:38:32, 2:38:32]: Um [2:38:33, 2:38:33]: Well [2:38:35, 2:38:39]: I understand the developer, the landowner has a right. [2:38:39, 2:38:40]: They have a right to sell their property. [2:38:41, 2:38:44]: And the developer has a right to submit an application to build. [2:38:45, 2:38:46]: Is whether or not [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: What they propose to be [2:38:49, 2:38:51]: is something that meets our [2:38:52, 2:38:54]: cities building standards and codes. [2:38:55, 2:38:58]: The developer has submitted some [2:38:58, 2:39:01]: Exceptions is what I like to call them. [2:39:01, 2:39:02]: The variances. [2:39:03, 2:39:05]: And amendments. There are exceptions. [2:39:06, 2:39:07]: To our code. [2:39:08, 2:39:09]: Far too often. [2:39:09, 2:39:10]: Proposals are being sent. [2:39:11, 2:39:16]: And the council is approving, amending our comprehensive plan. [2:39:16, 2:39:18]: And approving the rezonings. [2:39:19, 2:39:24]: So I've asked the question why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars? [2:39:25, 2:39:29]: On a comprehensive plan or unified development code if we keep amending it. [2:39:30, 2:39:32]: Every time someone submits an application. [2:39:32, 2:39:35]: But perhaps that's the ways of developing. [2:39:37, 2:39:40]: Nonetheless, um, this is close to where I live. [2:39:42, 2:39:44]: So absolutely, I have a vested interest. [2:39:44, 2:39:46]: in this particular development. [2:39:47, 2:39:52]: I'd like to see some concep conceptuals of this that hasn't been provided. [2:39:53, 2:39:58]: You mean renderings? Or or renderings, you have some I showed you some renderings. Let me show let me go back to that screen. [2:40:01, 2:40:01]: Okay. [2:40:02, 2:40:04]: This is the first time I've seen them. [2:40:04, 2:40:05]: Okay. [2:40:06, 2:40:08]: And here's another angle. [2:40:08, 2:40:11]: A four brick facade. [2:40:11, 2:40:17]: Thank you. They do look nice. I did have an opportunity to talk with um [2:40:18, 2:40:21]: I don't know if he was the developer. Mr Moore, is he here? [2:40:22, 2:40:23]: Uh yes, they're here. [2:40:24, 2:40:27]: I did have an opportunity to talk with him on Friday. I shared with him. [2:40:27, 2:40:31]: Some of my concerns, safety concerns. Um [2:40:31, 2:40:32]: The [2:40:33, 2:40:36]: Entry and exit points. We're not at that point yet. [2:40:37, 2:40:44]: I mean you I'm I'm complete with my uh entire presentation, so you can ask a question on that. Okay. Then I'll wait. Okay. Thank you. All right. [2:40:45, 2:40:57]: The applicant can come up oh if you have any questions. Yeah, come on up please. Um Mr. Sam, do you have some questions there? Yeah, let the applicant make the presentation as customary. Okay. [2:41:00, 2:41:01]: Thank you. [2:41:04, 2:41:05]: All right. [2:41:06, 2:41:10]: Good evening, Mr. Chairman. Board members. Evening to you, sir. [2:41:10, 2:41:30]: Welcome. Thank you. George Harper, Paramount Engineering, 11 East Broad Street, Noonan, Georgia. Thank you for hearing us tonight. So, yes, these are just to kind of start off and answer your questions about the renderings. Now, these were the same renderings that were submitted with the uh the original package. They were in the planning commission and these were showed at the original. [2:41:30, 2:41:50]: Original Planning Commission meeting that were approved. So I maybe there was a little confusion there. I apologize. I do have uh I did send some additional ones in today. Really, it was just for a three-story unit that we're proposing as well. And then I provided a little bit of uh additional information on some interior pictures, that type stuff. So that's really the [2:41:50, 2:42:09]: the only additional information that I sent in today that that wasn't in the original package. So if if that helps a little bit. So um do you want me to go through the presentation ways, sir? If you have a presentation, I didn't know if he was quite finished with with his or not, but uh give me just a second I can [2:42:09, 2:42:15]: Ryan, he may need some help with this just in case uh maybe give him some of this assistance to get this thing up. Yes, sir, if you don't mind. [2:42:19, 2:42:20]: Uh how we point to. [2:42:22, 2:42:42]: You got the new three-story. It's okay. Yeah. Thank you. Okay, here we go. All righty. So um again, my name is George Harper, Caraman Engineering. I'm representing LI Route 23 today. So this property is owned by the Clark family. Uh Clark family has owned C and C fence for a number of years. Uh this [2:42:42, 2:43:02]: property uh they wanted to uh expand their fence company a few years ago and they came before the city to try to have it rezoned to I believe it was LI so they could expand uh again their fence company and and that was denied. And so they've been sitting on the property for a number of years and just haven't really had any opportunities to sell it at [2:43:02, 2:43:22]: At the current zoning, uh no interest in the C2. So uh my uh my clients came along and offered to um try to buy the property and develop it as obviously a residential uh townhome development. Um starting off, I'll kind of go through just kind of like his presentation as far as the comp plan. So obviously. [2:43:22, 2:43:36]: Obviously we're um we're recommending that uh or asking that it be uh changed from low density mixed use to the MFR. Um we do meet the MFR um the medium density residential uh density requirements. [2:43:36, 2:43:56]: We're uh asking for 7.35 units per acre, which is less than the 7.99 that are uh is the max in a medium Disney res uh medium density uh zoning. Uh we're asking to rezone from C2 to MFR. Um the variances, uh I can go through those as well. Um [2:43:56, 2:44:16]: And I'll give you a little explanation of why we're asking for those variances. So the front setback, I think kind of maybe the staff has has presented some additional information to you guys. Um and it kind of goes along with what we were asking for from the 50 to the 30. If you think back uh on most townhome developments you've been in, most of the [2:44:16, 2:44:36]: people that live in those are younger families or maybe some some older families as well. They don't want a whole lot of yard maintenance. So we try to pull the the units closer to the road a little bit. Uh obviously have enough room between the sidewalk and the front of the house to have a car in the driveway, but not have just a ton of maintenance. So that's kind of the the theory behind the uh [2:44:36, 2:44:56]: Reducing the front setbacks. The side setback. Do you have any other slides besides this one? I do. I I'll get to those in just a second. I'm sorry. Yeah. Go right in, please. I apologize. Thank you. So the side setback. So this one, the the city ordinance says that the minimum side setback is 15 feet, but [2:44:56, 2:45:00]: the minimum distance between houses [2:45:00, 2:45:18]: is twenty feet. So that would be ten on each side. So all we're trying to do is make our get a variance to make it meet that requirement of the of the ordinance. So if you otherwise it would be thirty feet between units. So we're trying to bring it down to meet [2:45:18, 2:45:23]: The minimum distance between buildings of twenty feet, and that's a that's a typical fire code as well. [2:45:23, 2:45:43]: So that was our that was our premise behind uh requesting that uh variance as well. As far as our open space goes, um, you know, we more than meet the open space requirements. Uh we gotta have a minimum of two point oh four acres, we have two point eight one. Um this uh property, if it was to be developed. [2:45:43, 2:46:03]: to its maximum density and meet, for instance, the I believe it's parkside, which is across the street from us there, which is high density, we could get up to 162 units on this property. If we were to go for a high density, we chose not to do that. And you can tell by looking [2:46:03, 2:46:23]: at the plan here. You know, we do we did try to reserve a a decent amount of open space, you know, kind of in between the units and along the frontage out there to give a little buffer along Highway 42, but also to design it to where you're not the back of your house is not just butted up against another another unit. [2:46:23, 2:46:32]: to give a little bit more room, a little more privacy. And so that was kind of our thought to reduce some of the units um and make it just a little bit uh higher quality product. [2:46:33, 2:46:47]: Uh we've got plenty of amenities in this project, uh pool with cabana, playgrounds, um some additional guest parking. We're gonna do a real nice decorative um kind of the black wrought iron type uh fencing along the front. [2:46:47, 2:47:07]: Uh we've got a second entry in the back. It's gonna be an emergency entrance. Actually that driveway is is uh currently installed as well. So um that's gonna be just kind of a uh secondary fire access. It will be not there will be no m major traffic through there. Um we have two car garages on all of our units. [2:47:07, 2:47:25]: We're not doing any one-car garages. They'll all be two to three-story. We started off with just a two-story product, and the more we got to talking, we we kind of decided that uh we we're gonna go to a three-store unit and I'll show you some renderings of those in just a second. [2:47:26, 2:47:35]: Um but we are surrounded by, you know, a lot of single family, but the densities are pretty you know pretty comparable to those to those units. Um [2:47:37, 2:47:53]: All the units will be uh at least eighteen hundred square feet. They'll probably go up to even twenty three hundred on some of the the uh three storey units. Uh they'll be constructed with mostly brick, stone and stucco. Uh the remainders of the so the the front of the house will be all be brick, stone, and stucco. [2:47:54, 2:48:14]: The sides and the rears will be a mix of shakes, board and batten, and some concrete hardy boards. Now we also are going to do at least an eight foot high uh masonry water table around the unit. So if we know what the water water table is, so basically the first almost the first floor of each unit. [2:48:14, 2:48:34]: Will be uh brick, stone, or stucco. Okay. Um, and then above that would be the Hardy or the Shakespeare or the batten board. Um they'll have uh real nice decorative garage doors, front doors on all the units. Again, like I said, two car garages. The and if you look through here, let me go down. [2:48:34, 2:48:39]: Okay. This is one of the renderings that I showed before. [2:48:40, 2:49:00]: I wasn't able to kind of change the picture of this, but I do want to stipulate in in the minutes that the little overhangs above the garage, and you'll see on some of our other units. Here we go. Here's one of our three-story units. So the little overhangs over the front doors and the in the center windows, we're going to do the like the metal roof. [2:49:00, 2:49:06]: on those instead of instead of shingles. So it it makes a much much nicer product. [2:49:07, 2:49:17]: kind of flip through here. So these are these are some of the uh renderings uh and just samples of of kind of what the interior of the units will look like. You can tell they're [2:49:17, 2:49:37]: Uh they're very nicely appointed, lots of windows, um solid surface countertops, um trim moling, you know, very modern, updated type uh units. These are a lot of the same products that are being built, you know, all in Atlanta, um, and we really feel [2:49:37, 2:49:56]: like this will cater to um a lot maybe more of a younger working type crowd um in this area especially uh how close it is to the uh interstate and you know all the amenities around I mean you can walk to the the restaurants um [2:49:57, 2:50:16]: and everything else around you. So it's it's in a great location. Um and we really, really are proud of these uh these interiors that we're proposing. So again, this is the three-story unit that we just recently added today. Again, this this was really the only rendering of the outside that I added today that wasn't in the original presentation. [2:50:17, 2:50:19]: Anyway, so there's some more of those [2:50:20, 2:50:21]: Those uh renderings. [2:50:22, 2:50:34]: So we'll have mandatory homeowners association that'll include the lawn service, garbage collection, uh with community mailbox. Again, you saw the on the rendering there, we've got uh a pool with a pool cabana. [2:50:34, 2:50:36]: Um restrooms. [2:50:36, 2:50:40]: And fire pit, playground. So we we really tried to [2:50:40, 2:51:00]: We really envision this as a as a kind of an upscale type of townhome development in this area, it being so centrally located, close to Eagles Landing, uh it's really got a lot going for it. So I'll answer any questions or I'd like to reserve the few seconds I got left for rebuttal. Got uh Mr. Azankoy, please. [2:51:00, 2:51:20]: Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate uh the presentation and to some Miss Gantt can breathe over here. They're not gonna be all 100% brick. Uh I think we had discussed uh that we would have uh fifty percent of them be a hundred percent brick, and then there would be some flexibility uh on the other fifty percent that would be left to the homeowner. [2:51:20, 2:51:40]: Consistent with what we did with Brandon Row. So the homeowners could have some options on what they want to do with the facades. We certainly also discussed three-size brick. So the size of the unit would be brick, and then the water table would be on the rear of the unit so that we would have some. [2:51:40, 2:52:00]: consistency as far as that is concerned. So there were some additional conditions. Uh of course the can you've already read the it's a gated community, flock cameras at the entrances, at the entrances. There would be a 10-foot multi-use path along highway 4223 with six [2:52:00, 2:52:20]: foot sidewalks uh inside, not five foot, six foot sidewalks inside. Uh the staff described the acceleration lane that would be there if council did so desire. And then you described the minimum square footage which is 1800 square feet. We want them to be not basic townhomes, which you have described are really [2:52:20, 2:52:24]: [10344.2, 10364.2]: a town home where when you walk inside that door, you did not know that you were in a town home. The only distinguishable difference would be when you walk out the door, you wouldn't have a large yard, and these yards are going to be taken care of for the uh rock and go living as you had indicated, if council was so desired. [2:52:44, 2:53:04]: uh for that to be. Uh we talked about that a clubhouse, a pool, a cover pavilion, and also an outdoor grill area was agreed upon with a fire pit and then uh the black metal decorative street lights uh would go along uh the frontage along highway 42 uh [2:53:04, 2:53:24]: if that was so desired. And uh the acceleration lane, if it were possible, and you you have to go to GDOT to see whether it's possible or not to try to connect it to that turn lane uh at East Lake and whether they would allow you to do that or not because they're gonna widen Highway 42 eventually. They might even give you the funds to do it. [2:53:24, 2:53:44]: with like they did at Jodico, they advanced the funds so that that could be done. So the acceleration lane that you're going to be putting in, you would check with GDOT and staff would work through the process in order to see whether or not you could connect that acceleration lane with the turn lane so those residents when they were coming out would not have to fight with those two lanes of traffic. [2:53:44, 2:54:04]: They would just have a uh an automatic out right there, which would be adding a lane if council so uh desired in order to uh approve this. But looks like a really, really good product. And again, um I think you mentioned that the three-story unit uh is something that is completely lacking uh from this. [2:54:03, 2:54:23]: community. I can tell you that those items are something that's highly desirable for the community. So thank you for bringing a three-story model ahead. And again that will give us the square footage that will actually be bigger than the homes, uh most of some a a lot of the homes that are surrounding uh these particular town homes. [2:54:23, 2:54:30]: So thank you. Yes sir. Questions council. Anybody? Miss Barber, go ahead, please. Yes. [2:54:30, 2:54:36]: Okay. So the entrance and exit points. That's what I wanna [2:54:36, 2:54:39]: Yes. [2:54:40, 2:54:41]: Access point. [2:54:41, 2:54:42]: And one [2:54:43, 2:54:56]: Exit. Yes, ma'am. And it yes ma'am. It lines right up with that parkside drive right across the street. And that that is actually existing at this time. Okay. Now we have a secondary emergency access. [2:54:57, 2:55:08]: Okay, so if you look and it's kind of hard to see on this drawing, but the very co uh last cul de sac here that that um is on the very southwest corner, if you look on the plan. [2:55:08, 2:55:24]: There's actually another existing curb cut on Highway 42 there. And so we're going to use that as a secondary uh fire access, just emergency. It'll be gated off to where, you know, people are not coming in and out. It'll have a knox box on it. And um [2:55:25, 2:55:34]: You know, so it's a secondary emergency access. Yes, ma'am. Okay, so this is gated. When I spoke with the gentleman on Friday, Mr. Moore, he said it was not gonna be gated. [2:55:35, 2:55:55]: We've kind of been back and forth on some of that. It's still uh honestly, we're a little unclear um if we can do gated gates on a public street. And we're still we kind of worked we've asked that question with staff. We had I don't know we've gotten kind of a a definitive answer yet. We would like to gate it, but we also need to do these things these are [2:55:55, 2:56:03]: Going to be public streets. You know, we do have right-of-ways shown that will be dedicated to the city. Um, and so we're kind of working through that issue. Um [2:56:05, 2:56:17]: So I'm saying if you ask our staff and w our staff can't be able to do that. Seems like that. [2:56:18, 2:56:28]: As far as I I I know, Mayor Ford, um it can't be gated on a um on a public street. It has it has to be non gated. But w if the streets remain private, he can put a gate up. [2:56:28, 2:56:30]: Okay, thank you. Go ahead, proceed. [2:56:30, 2:56:32]: Uh no no, you're fine, Mr. Anson. Proceed. [2:56:33, 2:56:34]: Ms. uh M Barber. [2:56:34, 2:56:37]: My next question is regarding the traffic study. [2:56:38, 2:56:38]: Um [2:56:40, 2:56:44]: When was that conducted? Uh there wasn't one done. Um it was not required. [2:56:44, 2:56:49]: It wasn't required. Okay, that area is heavily traveled. [2:56:49, 2:56:52]: Um and I can only imagine. [2:56:52, 2:56:58]: Um those who may be exiting this development and trying to turn left. [2:56:59, 2:57:00]: Yes, I'm listening. Um [2:57:02, 2:57:04]: Uh there are safety concerns there. [2:57:06, 2:57:17]: Yes, ma'am. Uh if in the staff's report that they did originally, uh they did some traffic analysis uh on that. Take me just a second here to find it. I apologize. [2:57:19, 2:57:33]: It uh the uh average daily traffic on highway forty two was like seventeen thousand something cars per day. See, I know that's just and we were only expected to generate uh [2:57:35, 2:57:38]: I apologize. I'll find it here in just a second, but um [2:57:39, 2:57:42]: When was that analysis done? [2:57:42, 2:57:47]: This this was done by the staff, uh and it was in their uh staff report. [2:57:47, 2:57:48]: When was that done? [2:57:48, 2:57:51]: This was prior to the planning commission meeting, so [2:57:52, 2:57:53]: [10674.8, 10676.3]: You cycle here it I found it. [2:57:57, 2:58:04]: That that information came from G D Doc's website, the average number of vehicles uh that travel that road per day. [2:58:05, 2:58:25]: Yeah, seventeen thousand two hundred uh vehicles per day. Um and our deficient uh additional traffic uh would was only a couple hundred vehicles a day. So it was kind of a drop in the bucket compared to the average digital traffic on. Thank you, sir. I do have follow-up question for you, Mr. Anderson. So [2:58:25, 2:58:26]: Because it seems like we're [2:58:26, 2:58:32]: Inconsistent and I don't know why. I need to understand. I know that there are some developers who do [2:58:33, 2:58:35]: Conduct a traffic study. Why wouldn't [2:58:36, 2:58:51]: that happen across the board? Um it didn't reach the thresh threshold. Um but it's not too late for us to ask for one. But uh it didn't reach the threshold that triggers um uh didn't reach the thresh the threshold. He only has a hundred units. [2:58:52, 2:58:53]: Okay, so [2:58:54, 2:58:55]: Stay right. [2:58:55, 2:58:57]: Mm. That road is being expanded. [2:58:58, 2:58:59]: Yes, it's not a good thing. [2:59:00, 2:59:02]: Because of the traffic volume. [2:59:02, 2:59:04]: Mm-hmm. You're adding to the volume. [2:59:05, 2:59:11]: Yep, yes. So I'm a bit confused as to why this would not be required. [2:59:11, 2:59:26]: for a development that's coming there to an area that's already heavily traveled. Yeah I I like the renderings. I do. I'm impressed with it. Um I'm just seeing it for the first time though, which I could have gotten it before now. [2:59:27, 2:59:44]: Um, but I have some concerns regarding the safety of this. If that study or analysis that you did was just done a couple of months ago and you didn't look at what the um traffic volume is during the school year. [2:59:44, 2:59:49]: Now the school is back in. I'm sure traffic has increased in the area. [2:59:51, 2:59:51]: Um [2:59:53, 3:00:07]: To be honest, South Code doesn't require a traffic study for a project of this magnitude. Um, but that was the most recent G DOT information that we provided in the staff report. Oh. Of the number of units traveled on that road. [3:00:08, 3:00:11]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [3:00:11, 3:00:31]: Follow up one more thing, if if you don't mind. So this product this uh this site is actually pretty unique as it has an existing D cell lane and left turn lane already installed. So there's not really any more um traffic measures that you can do other than that. I mean I think [3:00:31, 3:00:35]: think we all kind of realize they're probably not gonna put a light right there. It it so close to [3:00:36, 3:00:43]: Eagles landing, right? So we've kind of got all of the things already in. Let's say there wasn't a left turn landing. [3:00:43, 3:01:03]: Potentially G Dot would have come back and said, Okay, based on the traffic counts, you need to add a left turn lane. But luckily with this with this site, we already got one in. So that that really does help keeping people stopping in the middle of the road trying to turn in and all of that. So well it helps with the cost of the development, but it certainly does not help um alleviate or [3:01:03, 3:01:05]: Minimize um [3:01:06, 3:01:10]: Oh sure. Sure does. In the safety concerns. Oh absolutely. So I know [3:01:10, 3:01:11]: There's a median. [3:01:11, 3:01:13]: In the middle of the road there. Mm-hmm. [3:01:14, 3:01:16]: So if someone wants to turn in [3:01:16, 3:01:19]: Um turn left into the development. [3:01:20, 3:01:22]: I'm just concerned. [3:01:22, 3:01:23]: Yeah, now there's a left turn line. [3:01:24, 3:01:27]: There's a left turn lane, but there is no light there. [3:01:27, 3:01:29]: No no no, there's not a light there, no ma'am. Okay. [3:01:30, 3:01:30]: Is [3:01:31, 3:01:50]: I live in the area and I kinda know that it's heavily traveled. Yes ma'am. There are peak hours of the day and now that school is back in, um, traffic has picked up. Yes, ma'am. So I just I don't know if you all can add caution lights or fla I don't know, but it's certainly a safety concern. [3:01:50, 3:02:10]: Um for me there. That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. I think and then in the end understand the long term process and understanding that we understand up here we raise traffic concerns, but under the law we address them the best way. [3:02:10, 3:02:30]: that we can and as the staff has described. And fortunately for us down the road, GDOT is going to widen this road. The right-of-way acquisition will start in 2027 and then hopefully the project will start a couple years after that. So there is some improvements that we know are coming to the area. [3:02:30, 3:02:50]: But growth is going to come and we know property rights have people have the right to sell their property. So we would ask you to do what's necessary in order to, as again, as I said, to try to s go back to GDOT and see whether or not that acceleration lane could be connected to the turn lane. The staff of the GDOT will tell you whether you can do it or not. [3:02:50, 3:03:10]: And what that would do is give the residents a out when they're coming out to turn out through there. And then again, there's a break in the median right at the gate. So basically you could go uh uh to turn the left because there's a break in the median, it's not a solid median at that point. These challenges always face us because it's always [3:03:10, 3:03:30]: Always gonna be some traffic situations coming there. But if we know as far as we stand, if you're gonna put the traffic somewhere, you want to put it against four or five lane Eagles Landing Parkway and in a destination that you know is going to be uh improved uh at this point. So [3:03:30, 3:03:37]: I appreciate uh the presentation and and and again the desire is to have the community be gated. Yeah. Yes. [3:03:38, 3:03:40]: Uh counselor, anybody and counselor any questions at all? [3:03:41, 3:03:41]: Okay. [3:03:43, 3:03:48]: This is it. So I wanna know, um, are you able to reduce the amount of units here to fifty? [3:03:48, 3:03:51]: As opposed to the hundred. Um [3:03:51, 3:03:52]: Well [3:03:53, 3:04:13]: The short answer is no. Uh again, you know, we could have uh I c you can look at the plan and kind of envision we could have gotten a lot more units on this plan than we did. Uh we felt like a hundred was a really good number. It was a good balance in between a low density and a high density. [3:04:13, 3:04:33]: Uh that's kind of why we didn't request a high density. Uh we just felt like the low excuse me, the medium density was a good transition between the lower densities to the east of us and the high density to the west of us. Uh because the park side is considered um high density and then the um [3:04:33, 3:04:37]: I think it's Lakeside to the east of us, that was more of a uh low density. So we felt [3:04:38, 3:04:57]: If we stayed in that that kind of that sweet spot of right around a hundred units, it's it it it was a good transition. So honestly, we really feel like it that's a pretty good number. It still makes the project viable. Um, you know, as you know, if you get to so few a units, it's it's not it's not even viable. So [3:04:59, 3:05:06]: You know, I I feel like you know, truthfully we could have gotten quite a bit more units on this project, but we just we just felt like this was a good sweet spot. So [3:05:07, 3:05:08]: Um [3:05:09, 3:05:13]: Where did I get a hundred and forty units from? When I'm was I reading the other [3:05:14, 3:05:17]: I think if we went to a if we went to if we had requested [3:05:18, 3:05:33]: uh a a change to a high density, we could have gotten a right around a hundred and forty, I think it was actually a hundred and sixty. Is that what you submitted your application for? No ma'am. No, it's been a hundred from day one. Okay. Uh I I um sorry. So the other thing I wanted to ask though. [3:05:34, 3:05:35]: Was [3:05:37, 3:05:46]: Just extending or adding additional uh homes, single family detached homes to Lakeside, was that not an option for you? [3:05:48, 3:05:50]: Uh well there's [3:05:51, 3:06:11]: There's homes all the way on the cul-de-sac on both sides. Uh excuse me, lakeside is to the east, correct? Yeah, that's right. Um there's not really any access through there. Uh there's a power line that goes through there that's pretty wide, uh, that actually separates our property from the lakeside as well. Um, but there was really no way to add a street through. [3:06:11, 3:06:15]: [11175.5, 11177.4]: Yeah, there just there really wasn't um [3:06:18, 3:06:20]: There really wasn't a way to do that. [3:06:20, 3:06:22]: And also you know, I go back to [3:06:23, 3:06:43]: We were kind of we were kind of targeting this type of product, like the two and the three story type of townhomes. There's not a lot of that right around through there. It's a really good location. It's close to all the amenities. And so we really felt like, you know, that's that's kind of uh a product that's missing in that area. So that's kind of the reason why we we went we went that route. [3:06:43, 3:06:43]: Right. [3:06:44, 3:07:01]: Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Last question. Okay, go ahead. Well, these will be three fifty to over four hundred. Thank you. And Kate, what's the square footage um for [3:07:01, 3:07:06]: Uh eighteen hundred to twenty three hundred. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [3:07:07, 3:07:27]: If there are no other questions for the council, then I'll open up for the public uh hearing. Thank you, gentlemen. You have a seat for right now. All right, so I'm gonna open up to see whether or not then if we have anybody that uh any comments uh that people want to make for and against. So for any comments for this development, I'll start on my very left side over here. Anybody want to make any comments in my left side? [3:07:27, 3:07:43]: side. Anybody might make comments for this development in the middle? Anybody on the right side? Any comments for for this development? Okay, none. Anybody have negative comments, comments not for, not in positive no positive comments, don't want this development. Anybody on my left side? [3:07:43, 3:07:58]: Okay. If you if you wanna make a comment, man, stand up stand up and come right line up up here and I'll get you allow you to talk in just a little bit. Anybody else that has any negative comments or no stand by right there. Right there, man. So right there. You're right there. Uh anybody in the middle that have wanna make any comments uh against this project. [3:07:58, 3:08:00]: Yeah, you you wanna make a comment against the project, ma'am? [3:08:01, 3:08:04]: Uh right up behind this lady over here, please. Okay. [3:08:05, 3:08:18]: Any any anybody from my far uh right? And want any negative comments, comments uh discounting discounting this particular project? Okay, I see three individuals. Okay, ma'am, if you come to the mic please, your name and address. [3:08:21, 3:08:27]: My name is Janet Murick Beekler. My address is three one three Royal Crescent Way Stockbridge. [3:08:27, 3:08:28]: Okay, go ahead, please. [3:08:28, 3:08:35]: I'm sorry? Go ahead with your comments. Okay. I am not I'm kinda half and half. I'm not against the development. [3:08:35, 3:08:42]: What I am against is the number of units in the development. He's saying seven per acre. [3:08:43, 3:08:45]: Could it be reduced to six, five? [3:08:45, 3:08:51]: I don't want to see a variance. I'd like to see it stay at fifty and fifteen. [3:08:51, 3:08:53]: The other thing. [3:08:53, 3:08:54]: And I'd like [3:08:54, 3:09:06]: I'd like to understand this and I understand that traffic is not an issue for anybody for denying this. And I'm not asking you excuse me to deny this project. I think it's a good one. [3:09:07, 3:09:11]: I j what I don't like is the number because you're gonna put two hundred [3:09:11, 3:09:14]: Віякс он на род. [3:09:14, 3:09:27]: It takes me getting out of parkside on school days almost five minutes to make a left-hand turn. And the only road that I can make a left-hand turn to get out of my development. [3:09:27, 3:09:29]: is twenty twenty three. [3:09:29, 3:09:33]: We cannot make a left hand turn on Eagles Landing. [3:09:33, 3:09:34]: Because of the median. [3:09:35, 3:09:39]: So what you have to do is you have to cross three lanes of traffic and make a U turn. [3:09:40, 3:09:43]: Наб'ю дай. [3:09:44, 3:09:45]: So the other thing [3:09:46, 3:09:52]: Our driveway and this development's curb cut are directly across from one another. [3:09:53, 3:09:59]: Юсю хапина U-turn, mainly the trucks for the fencing компані. [3:09:59, 3:10:00]: In that same area. [3:10:01, 3:10:04]: And then you've got the left hand turns coming down. [3:10:04, 3:10:06]: I'm trying to get out. [3:10:06, 3:10:11]: They're trying to get out. We're directly across from one another. Not a good way to do a driveway. [3:10:12, 3:10:14]: Тей штер щоб alternating driveways. [3:10:14, 3:10:18]: No driveway should be directly across from another driveway. [3:10:18, 3:10:20]: You don't do that in a development. [3:10:21, 3:10:23]: There's z there's zigzagd. [3:10:24, 3:10:25]: Um [3:10:28, 3:10:30]: Let's see, what else did I have? [3:10:32, 3:10:37]: Again, I don't I don't wanna see the setbacks changed. I think they should be there. [3:10:38, 3:10:41]: Амінюкас дан он [3:10:42, 3:10:45]: Parks uh are on um twenty thirty [3:10:45, 3:10:47]: Twenty three forty two. [3:10:47, 3:10:54]: Where the houses are like California houses, right next to each other. You can stand between the lots and you can't spread your arms out. [3:10:55, 3:10:57]: If you have a fire, you're gonna have a problem. [3:10:59, 3:11:11]: Our homes are twenty feet apart on both sides. So there's there's forty feet of neighbor space. Fifteen. Whatever. Okay. But anyway. [3:11:12, 3:11:14]: I'd just like to see [3:11:14, 3:11:16]: The rules. [3:11:16, 3:11:19]: that are on your books adhered to. [3:11:19, 3:11:23]: If you say that the frontage should be fifty, it should be fifty. [3:11:24, 3:11:27]: If you say the fifteen on the side, it should be fifteen on the side. [3:11:28, 3:11:35]: What's the exception? What's the reason for the exception? Why do I need to do that? Because somebody doesn't want to mow the front yard? [3:11:38, 3:11:43]: I mean that's not a reason to make an exception. Okay. But I really think you should give thought to [3:11:44, 3:11:54]: How people coming out of both developments with people trucks, not just cars, trucks with fencing equipment on it, making a U-turn there. [3:11:55, 3:12:04]: Okay, thank you. Especially during busy traffic. Thank you for your comments. Thank you. Next next individual, please name and address. No, next individual. You're you're done, ma'am. [3:12:05, 3:12:06]: Come on, sir. [3:12:11, 3:12:14]: Name and address. Name and address, please. [3:12:14, 3:12:34]: Uh Victor Hudson, 178 Parkside Drive, Stockbridge, 3028Y. Thank you. Uh the traffic is my primary uh primary concern. Uh we've uh been in Parkside for the better part of you know what 20 years and the growth in the area, you know, which we appreciate growth has been slowly. [3:12:34, 3:12:54]: Substantial. Um coming out of parkside and making a left at the same entrance that we'll share with them would be problematic. No, uh when you're coming out, you uh make an immediate turn and uh you go down to uh Eagles Landing Parkway and then there [3:12:53, 3:12:57]: [11577.4, 11580.0]: so close to an intersection, which I get that. [3:13:00, 3:13:00]: But [3:13:01, 3:13:04]: In park's I no that was a bone of contention. [3:13:04, 3:13:14]: when that medium was placed there in the first place because uh you know, we were told originally that there would be a light, which of course it couldn't be that close to uh the intersection. [3:13:14, 3:13:22]: But uh I suspect the hundred townhomes uh initially were turning to one sixty at some point. [3:13:23, 3:13:30]: And uh that's even more traffic that you know we're gonna get. So I'd love to see a traffic study. If it came from [3:13:34, 3:13:41]: Or w we don't know the date of that study, but in the time I've been in Parkside I know there's been substantial growth. [3:13:42, 3:13:45]: So thank you, sir. Ma'am, if you can, name and address, please. [3:13:47, 3:13:47]: Okay. [3:13:51, 3:13:55]: Hello, my name is Tanya Jackson. I'm at eight thirty six rock lane. [3:13:55, 3:14:03]: Um and as the young lady um before me spoke, I'm concerned about the um the um reducing the requirements for the [3:14:04, 3:14:09]: the side yards and the and the setbacks, um and some of the um [3:14:09, 3:14:10]: Town home [3:14:11, 3:14:31]: um communities that I've observed, it seems like the closer the setbacks are, the more crowded the neighborhood looks. So I wouldn't be opposed to that. Um I do have a question um that came up since being here. I know the gentleman or someone mentioned that it would be front side brick or stucco and then someone else mentioned on the council that it would [3:14:31, 3:14:35]: be three size bricks so I was a little confused as to which would it which would it be. [3:14:37, 3:14:47]: We'll we'll get you that answer. Is that all you have, ma'am? Yeah. Okay, thank you. Uh she needs to talk to Scler. Uh Ryan and and uh uh builder, you need to come back up into the mic, please. [3:14:48, 3:15:08]: Mayor. Yes, sir. If you would, the condition was going to be that fifty percent of them would be uh full brick, three sides, and then there would be a water table on the back. And then the other fifty percent would be up to the residents to decide whether they wanted brick stone or stucco. Uh [3:15:08, 3:15:28]: Uh kind of similar to the p rendering that you had. It had some brick and then it had some um uh at the top there you got the uh concrete fiber board. So that's some flexibility. So the residents would get decide what the other fifty percent would be. Okay, that's when they bought the home. We're good with that, yes sir. Okay, that's one on okay and re could you just go ahead [3:15:28, 3:15:38]: Yeah, d we haven't voted on this obviously, but further explain explain about the setback requirement, what you're asking, why you're asking it for, things of this nature. If you s further explain that please. [3:15:38, 3:15:58]: Sure. So so the front setback again and and I think uh um this gentleman was telling he addressed kind of some ordinance changes that they're proposing as well to kind of match what we're asking for. Um that's pretty typical. I think he said the average is twenty five feet on a front setback on a town on development. That's right. Uh normally [3:15:58, 3:16:10]: I've done quite a few of these projects and I've never done one more than probably say thirty foot on a front setback. That's all over Atlanta. Um it's just that's kind of the that's kind of the um [3:16:12, 3:16:32]: The standard for what you want to do in a town on the valley. You try to pull the units a little closer to the road, reduce the front yard, reduce the maintenance, and all that kind of stuff. The side setback again is really to match what the ordinance says right now. Your ordinance says. [3:16:32, 3:16:52]: minimum of twenty feet between buildings. So that would mean 10 feet on one side of the property line and 10 feet on another. All right, but the ordinance says you got to have a 15 foot setback. So all we're trying to do is reduce it to meet the other part of the ordinance of the minimum distance between buildings. So that's all we're asking for there is is we're still [3:16:52, 3:17:12]: Obviously I'm familiar with the the medium in there. So otherwise I'd never thought about this I guess brought up there. So otherwise they're both uh driveways are facing each other, but they're on opposite ends of the road with the medium there and you gotta make the left turn. I don't know how else we can change other than do uh D Dok eventually or span uh D Dop eventually spanning the road some years from now. So I [3:17:12, 3:17:32]: I don't know if can you further explain that or uh and I and I was just having this conversation with with the very nice lady over here as well. So GDOT put that uh our driveway cut in there where they did for a reason. So we always try when we're designing driveways, GDOT has a rule that you always want to try to line them up with each other. [3:17:32, 3:17:52]: Reason is is because if you think about it, if you stagger the driveways, let's say you have somebody coming out of parkside and they're trying to take a left, somebody's coming out of ours and trying to take a right. Well, this person's accelerating, they're gonna run into each other. When they're lined up, you go like this. So you don't run into each other. So that's kind of the reason why [3:17:52, 3:18:11]: GDOT has a standard of always trying to line up driveways. In fact, they have minimum driveway spacings, offset driveways, so you can't be within like two or three hundred feet of having offset driveways. So there's they've got quite a bit of rules on that and and reasons why, but they put that driveway in where they did so it would be where it is. [3:18:11, 3:18:31]: Okay. Yeah. And when you explain earlier that hundred hundred units is what it's gonna be, could have been more, but but you felt it's best to have a hundred units there for this thing. Not lower but not higher, hundred is a great max uh uh great number for this development. Exactly. Okay. And when you get over a hundred, I think you have to have an additional driveway. Well, already people are you know, we're all complaining [3:18:31, 3:18:34]: about the traffic and stuff. So we tried to keep it at that sweet spot. Yes, sir. [3:18:35, 3:18:55]: Okay. That d this disregard that for now. Also otherwise and we talked about a traffic study. Traffic study wasn't done. It wasn't the the sit wit situation with the with the homes and the development's not needed, but then again you explained about the already the the actual uh cell reigns that that are already present there in this aspect. So that means the G D looked at that and says it's not necessary'cause this [3:18:55, 3:19:03]: already exist. And so it's it doesn't seem like it'd be any other way to expand any other d way here. You already have everything in place. That's right. [3:19:03, 3:19:15]: Okay. Ryan, anything else you can say about that, sir? Um no, sir. You you hit it on the head. All right. Yes, sir. If I could ask the owner, the applicant to come up. Mr. Moore and Mr. Patterson, y'all come up? [3:19:22, 3:19:42]: Now I'm gonna say this to you, Mr. Moore, and I and I know you all have you originally you said you thought about a hundred and forty, you got it down to a hundred. Yes, sir, yes sir. Which is a nice round number. And certainly we're trying to minimize what the traffic uh study or uh would impact would be. Is that the bottom number? Is there a [3:19:42, 3:19:47]: few more that you might be able to carve off. [3:19:47, 3:20:02]: We think we're at ninety-eight. Maybe ninety-seven. We're not gonna be any more than a hundred. It's we're somewhere between ninety-six and ninety eight units because there's a I don't know how to work this thing. Uh my kids aren't here. Um [3:20:03, 3:20:23]: There's up here it's kinda hard to see. Uh I don't know if I can point, but where the where the emergency exit is. Where the emergency exit is right here in the uh emergency ingress egress. Yes, sir. There is a power line. There's a power line easement that runs down actually [3:20:23, 3:20:35]: both sides of the property. One is the uh Lakeside community and there's one right there. And I think we're gonna lose I think we're gonna lose one of one or two of these townhomes right here in the [3:20:35, 3:20:41]: Okay. Okay. Let let's say this then. Let's let let's say let's make that number ninety seven. [3:20:41, 3:21:00]: Okay, that's fine. Yes, sir. Okay. So that'll be three that we'll lose off of there, but certainly you know, somebody would probably wouldn't want to live under power. So we'll go from uh a hundred down to ninety seven. That's pretty much that still makes the project viable for you. Okay. Yes, sir, sure does are you agreeable to that? Yes, sir, we sure are. Okay, thank you. [3:21:00, 3:21:03]: Okay, any other c any other questions from the council? [3:21:04, 3:21:05]: Yes. [3:21:05, 3:21:08]: I still have um there's the safety concern. [3:21:09, 3:21:17]: And I know you under you just explained about why G Dot aligned the driveways um or the entranceways to [3:21:17, 3:21:37]: Park side and this proposed development, but there's still an aspect of safety concerns. Uh I think your subdivision has the same thing. If you'll go to I don't know how to go here, but on East Lake Road, you you're you're right across the street from the continuance of your subdivision. Right. So that's all they're trying to do. These are rules and laws that we can't [3:21:37, 3:21:44]: Can't change the city can't change. Mr. Patters can speak to it because he was over the engineering for all of Henry County and DOT. [3:21:44, 3:21:50]: They required it that way and and and that's that's where they are. You are gonna widen it, but [3:21:50, 3:21:58]: But I mean, it's always a concern. I have children, I've had children being wrecks, and yes, it's it's a it's a definite concern, but at the same time [3:21:59, 3:22:01]: My kids went to school right here by Eagles Landing Christian. [3:22:02, 3:22:20]: For fifteen years from kindergarten all the way through graduation, some construction was going on between seventy-five and their school. So I mean I I understand and I uh you know but when I'm pulling out of even my subdivision, you just mentioned the other side of Lakeside onto East Lake Parkway. [3:22:20, 3:22:26]: Us going head on. I'm trying to turn left. They're trying to turn left. Yeah, it's yeah. [3:22:27, 3:22:36]: That is a concern of mine. Well they have two lanes there, so you should be able to easy you know, turn left each of you. You know that? But [3:22:36, 3:22:47]: Um so I really wish that you could expand onto um lakeside with single family detached homes, but I'm [3:22:47, 3:22:52]: It's a forty foot there's a forty foot drop off and there's houses behind there. [3:22:54, 3:22:55]: No all right. [3:22:56, 3:23:08]: All right, so uh if there are no other questions, uh we're gonna t well thank you gentlemen, appreciate it. Okay, so uh comprehends a plan amendment K C P two zero two four dash zero six. Once again, council district five [3:23:09, 3:23:29]: Council consideration request a comprehensive plan amendment to change the future and land use designation of two parcels on each side of Highway 42, north south, north, south of Eagles Land Parkway from low density mix use to medium density residential to allow for construction of townhome development. The applicant ILI Route 23 L. [3:23:29, 3:23:33]: L L C and Agents George Harper Empowerment Empowerment Engineering. [3:23:34, 3:23:54]: The property contains two parcels as listed below, 13.64 acres within the city limits stop bridge. And the parcel number 069-01009000 contains 10.61 acres in landlost one and two of district seven and eleven. And parcel uh number zero seven [3:23:54, 3:24:05]: 2612 Highway 42 contains 3.3 acres of land lot uh one of District 7. Need a motion to accept this this change. [3:24:06, 3:24:25]: May I make to make a motion to approve and also point out that this has been the thirty foot setback has been um well we'll the standard of what we've been doing in the other developments in district four. Well we'll get to that. We'll get to that. We gotta take w each one of these one at a time so we have a vote on each one. So we'll get to what you're talking about. So move. Thank you. Is there a second? [3:24:26, 3:24:29]: Miss Barber Ms uh uh Gantt second, all favor please indicate. [3:24:31, 3:24:51]: I will abstain. Okay, so 401. Uh Ms. Barber abstains. Okay. For rezoning case RZ 2024-06, Council District 5, consideration of a request for rezoning to rezoning to rezone two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eagles Land Parkway from C to General Park. [3:24:51, 3:25:11]: Commercial to F MFR multifamily residential to allow for the construction of townhome development. The applicant LI Route 23 LLC and the agents George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as are listed below, 13.64 total acres within the Starbury City limits. Variants to require [3:25:11, 3:25:31]: Request RV 2024-06 with reduced in front yard setbacks, the townhome lots from 50 feet to 30 feet. Parcel number 069-0100-9000 contains 10.61 acres, landlots 1 and 2 of districts 7 and 11. Parcel number 07900. [3:25:31, 3:25:43]: This is what [3:25:44, 3:25:51]: Excuse me. I got one question. Yeah, what's your one question? Yeah, what's stand by Mr Thomas? Yes, what's your question? Why is it multifriendly? [3:25:52, 3:26:04]: Well, is townhomes. Yeah, they're part uh in the MFR district. Townhomes are part of the MFR district. Part of the multif uh multifamily residential t uh district. [3:26:08, 3:26:11]: No, mm mm.'Cause it's it's single family detached. [3:26:12, 3:26:14]: It's S R and R R. [3:26:18, 3:26:21]: No, I mean uh no, it still would be a MFR. [3:26:22, 3:26:28]: So you have single family detached. It's still single family, but it's part of multifamily because the buildings are connected. [3:26:29, 3:26:41]: But they still can be, I mean, a single family residence. Okay. Yeah. Remember forward. Yeah, yeah, Mr Thomas go ahead. I want to tell you. Oh, guess something else sir, I'm sorry. I think you uh missed uh R Z twenty the the rezoning. [3:26:42, 3:27:02]: I thought I just read Rizona. Oh, I just read the result. Rizona was next. Rizona is what I just read. Okay. All right. So ms Ms. Thomas, you good? Okay. Okay. Now this is where the conditions will come in and we talked about the gated community with flock cameras at the [3:27:02, 3:27:22]: The entrance. The 10 foot most used path along highway 42 23, the entire frontage, six foot sidewalks inside the development. You say six foot? Yes, instead of five foot. Six. Acceleration lane for the development. Minimum square footage, 1800 to 20. [3:27:22, 3:27:42]: Square feet, square footage. We are incorporating the two levels, and then the three levels will be 65% two levels, 35% three levels. 50% of the units, brick and [3:27:42, 3:28:02]: cement fiber 50% of the units will be all brick. The sides of the unit will be brick with a water table on the rear uh of the unit and then the other 50% will be flexible flexible for the applicant. Flexible for the applicant. Right. Okay. Come to the mic please [3:28:02, 3:28:22]: Come to my place and you're saying a mix on the we didn't have a percentage on the two-story or three-story. We're gonna let the market dictate if the market dictate. Okay, sorry, sorry if the market dictate if they build 85 three-story. Right, right. That that's what we discussed. He's correct. He's correct. The minimum square footage will be 18, and then you will let the market determine what how many we will build of each. [3:28:22, 3:28:42]: Okay. That's correct. I'm sorry. I I that was that was an old note that I'm reading off of, sorry. And then there would be a clubhouse, a pool, a pavilion, and an outdoor grilling area with a fire pit. Right, right. The clubhouse pavilion is one one building without yes, sir. Right. Yes, sir. You had those conditions written down. [3:28:42, 3:28:47]: Yes, yes, ma'am. I think okay, I didn't hear you say ten foot footpath, Councilman Alexander. [3:28:48, 3:28:53]: I thought I did. Ten foot path along the entire frontage of Highway forty two twenty three. [3:29:02, 3:29:13]: Okay. So that's my motion. Okay, that's your motion. You're good with everything that you just mentioned, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right. That's his motion. Is there a second to a motion? I second. Ms. Gantt second that. All in favor, please indicate. [3:29:15, 3:29:25]: Ms. Barber, you you voted how you voted? This is for which of the items I've lost track of where we are. The rezoning. We're talking the rezoning. Number twelve, rezoning. We should vote. [3:29:28, 3:29:44]: Okay, so this is um the rezoning. Yes. For the MFR. Is this where the fifty feet now the variances coming up next? That's coming up next. Say it again. The variance is coming up next. We're on the rezoning now. [3:29:44, 3:29:50]: Okay, but I'm looking at item number twelve and it mentions reducing the front yard setbacks. [3:29:50, 3:29:52]: Under the rezoning case. [3:29:53, 3:29:57]: It does say it resoned uh uh townhome lots from required fifty feet, thirty feet. [3:29:59, 3:30:00]: Mm-hmm. [3:30:00, 3:30:01]: Okay, so [3:30:04, 3:30:09]: We're on number twelve. We're on number twelve. I just read twelve. Yes. [3:30:10, 3:30:10]: Roll number twelve. [3:30:11, 3:30:13]: Sorry. We're on number twelve. [3:30:13, 3:30:14]: Correct. [3:30:15, 3:30:18]: So he just mentioned all of the conditions. [3:30:18, 3:30:19]: Under the rezoning [3:30:20, 3:30:27]: Yes, that's where they go on the So does that also include the thirty feet setback that he's requesting? [3:30:28, 3:30:30]: No ma no ma'am, he didn't include that as a condition. [3:30:31, 3:30:33]: That goes on the s that goes on the variance, right? [3:30:34, 3:30:34]: Yes. [3:30:35, 3:30:48]: But that is not okay, so I'm confused. I'm looking at the agenda. It's in and it's counting case. We can add it. But can I finish my comment before everybody start cutting me off? [3:30:50, 3:30:52]: Looking at item number twelve. [3:30:53, 3:30:56]: You see it, Mr. Andrew? Yes yes ma'am. Okay. [3:30:56, 3:30:57]: But [3:30:57, 3:31:02]: You're saying this variance request it should be under thirteen. [3:31:03, 3:31:05]: Yes, ma'am, that's the variance request. [3:31:05, 3:31:10]: Okay, thank you, I see. The last line up here should have been [3:31:10, 3:31:14]: is duplicated on item thirteen. Thank you, sir. Um [3:31:14, 3:31:18]: You so then I wanted to ask Councilman Alexander, are you gonna consider [3:31:19, 3:31:21]: Um as a condition [3:31:21, 3:31:33]: Requesting that um a percentage of the units be reserved for public service workers, as we mentioned during the retreat, like police officers, school teachers, nurses. [3:31:36, 3:31:40]: I certainly support that, but did we formalize that in any way? [3:31:41, 3:31:42]: I I don't think we did. [3:31:43, 3:31:44]: I don't think so. [3:31:45, 3:31:48]: So uh Mr. Moore, what what what are your thoughts on that? [3:31:50, 3:32:00]: I think that would be a great idea, but I think federal housing will not allow you to stipulate what somebody's occupation has to be. [3:32:01, 3:32:21]: I mean I'm not a expert in the law of that, but I do know I'm a real estate I mean real estate that you can't you can't discriminate against, you know, what somebody's occupation is in buying an F H A or B. Is Quentin over there? It's wolf. So I don't think I I do know this. I do know that a lot of the builders will give will give uh [3:32:20, 3:32:40]: the uh the um first responders and everything they give them extra you know they'll throw a washer dryer in there different things that they will do so you're agreeable to incentives incen any any type of incentive for first responders and uh and school teachers, yes sir. I mean we were trying to attract young professionals here. So okay so we'll include uh that [3:32:40, 3:32:53]: in there that there would be some incentives. As long as it doesn't break any house housing rules regulators. Is that good? Okay. All right. So how how do we need to have that verbiage to make sure we understand? [3:32:56, 3:32:59]: Yeah it is a c I was made man, it will say it is a condition. [3:33:00, 3:33:01]: They're adding. [3:33:05, 3:33:09]: We don't look like any problems taking a vehicle. [3:33:10, 3:33:16]: It'll be a suggestion as the city manager recommends us you I I know you would do it anyway'cause it's certainly gonna benefit you. [3:33:17, 3:33:18]: Yeah. [3:33:19, 3:33:20]: Okay. So we ha [3:33:21, 3:33:26]: So suggest okay, so be a suggestion. So otherwise you have you have that, Madam Clerk. Okay, wait. I have [3:33:27, 3:33:28]: I'm I'm sorry, Madam Clerk? [3:33:30, 3:33:30]: Okay. [3:33:30, 3:33:31]: Okay. [3:33:32, 3:33:34]: All right. Got it. Thank you. Good deal. [3:33:34, 3:33:38]: So with all that that was said, y uh yes, Miss Barber. [3:33:43, 3:33:45]: When we discussed um [3:33:46, 3:33:46]: Oh [3:33:47, 3:33:51]: new proposals and developments that come forward. [3:33:52, 3:33:57]: And I don't know whether y'all all got amnesia uh amnesia because I said it. [3:33:58, 3:34:04]: What I've been asking for for the past couple of years is that we include this. [3:34:04, 3:34:06]: in our code. [3:34:07, 3:34:11]: Just as we require there be a ten percent rental cap. [3:34:12, 3:34:15]: I'm also asking that we include in [3:34:15, 3:34:19]: A percentage. I don't know, two percent, three percent. [3:34:19, 3:34:23]: of all new developments be reserved [3:34:23, 3:34:26]: For public service workers. [3:34:26, 3:34:27]: Now [3:34:28, 3:34:35]: I don't know if Mr. Gardner or Mr. Washington, the city attorney, needs to do the research. [3:34:35, 3:34:37]: On the legality of it. [3:34:37, 3:34:44]: But the reason why I suggested it is to offer them some type of discount on the sale. [3:34:45, 3:34:46]: Of a unit. [3:34:46, 3:34:49]: is for public service workers. Right. [3:34:50, 3:34:52]: Not just incentive a wash and dryer. [3:34:53, 3:34:54]: No. So [3:34:56, 3:34:57]: It warning. [3:34:58, 3:35:18]: Is if you make that a condition, it's hard to enforce who's gonna enforce whether or not they have a public safety official there. That's gonna be one of the issues. I mean, we just can't police that. No one's gonna be out there every time someone closes on a house. Um second, uh uh the law by saying specific people, no [3:35:18, 3:35:22]: Uh, I know what you can do is you can say, Hey, can we have an affordable [3:35:22, 3:35:24]: Of affordability cap. [3:35:24, 3:35:36]: Where you could say, Hey, can X mod of these homes be set aside for low to moderate income families, which would include those folks? Because I I want you all to understand, your typical police officer [3:35:37, 3:35:42]: Makes fifty thousand dollars a year. If these homes are in the four hundred thousand dollar range, they can't afford it. [3:35:43, 3:35:47]: Right, um, so what you do is you try to ask for an affordability cap. [3:35:48, 3:36:08]: Um, to say, hey, can 5% or 2% of the homes be set aside for load-moted income? And part of that is they will have their lenders work with those entities that come in and they can be public safety officials. And this is something when we talked about that, I mentioned the chief, that Henry County actually have down payment and ho and closure. [3:36:07, 3:36:24]: closing cost assistance for specifically um that goes to public safety officials, police, fire, first responders. Right. And I and I think that number has gone up now to like twenty, twenty something thousand now per per household. [3:36:25, 3:36:26]: Um [3:36:26, 3:36:46]: And that's just something that these guys gotta, you know, go through the process with. But if they're willing to do something like that, uh, you can. But to just directly say it has to be a public safety person, uh that might be a problem. But if you say, hey, can you set aside two percent or five percent of the units as affordable units to load and mortal income families? And then [3:36:46, 3:36:50]: Their their their mortgage pricing could work around, you know [3:36:50, 3:36:54]: You know, being able to work with those people to give them the issues to bring the price down. [3:36:56, 3:37:05]: So then how are we able to I know you just mentioned that there's no way for us to track um that two percent that we [3:37:05, 3:37:11]: may ask to reserve for public service workers. Well then we can't track [3:37:12, 3:37:25]: the rentals either. No not rental. For sale. So and a part of the code allows for ten percent rentals. So why can't we also allow [3:37:26, 3:37:35]: Two percent to be rented to public service. So so the rental issue is pretty much not controlled by us, that's gonna be controlled by the HOA. [3:37:35, 3:37:38]: 'Cause that's outside of our purview. That's controlled by who? [3:37:38, 3:37:53]: HOA. Like most HOAs allow don't allow you to have X amount of homes in a subdivision for rental. And then they control that by watching to see who's doing what as it relates to paying your assessments. We can't monitor that. Cities don't monitor that. That's outside our purview. [3:37:54, 3:37:58]: Um legally we can't I mean cause if we can say you do ten percent. [3:37:58, 3:37:59]: How we gonna know? [3:38:00, 3:38:03]: Right. I mean we could go to the tax register and check. Yeah. [3:38:03, 3:38:08]: I mean, but imagine his staff trying to do that for how many subdivisions in the city? [3:38:09, 3:38:14]: Um to track that. I mean that's a separate person trying to do that job in and of itself. [3:38:14, 3:38:15]: Um [3:38:16, 3:38:35]: But, you know, once again, I mean, even when it comes to affordability, you know, somebody's you know, yeah, somebody's gotta be able to say, Okay, what's an affordable item? If it's four hundred, uh, are we setting aside a unit, two or three or four units at three hundred that makes that affordable? And you know. [3:38:37, 3:38:49]: I I don't know. It it just becomes so cumbersome to try to track all of this stuff because it just put a extra burden on on on your staff um to try and track this for every development that comes through. [3:38:50, 3:38:57]: Um you just hope in good fate that they do they provide those and say, Hey, we're providing X amount at [3:38:57, 3:39:08]: at um affordable uh uh for load or mortar incomes and their person who's selling those homes, identify those applicants. And if they get'em then they can share that data with us. But to like [3:39:08, 3:39:10]: Go in and try to track that is hard. [3:39:14, 3:39:21]: All right. So we m have we had a motion and it was seconded. So we I'll take the vote again. All in favor of the motion as indicated, please indicate. [3:39:22, 3:39:23]: Okay. [3:39:23, 3:39:28]: All right. So Miss Barber, you're approving. Okay, so it's five five oh. All right. [3:39:29, 3:39:31]: All right. [3:39:33, 3:39:53]: Variance case RV two zero two four-02 variance request number one to Council District Five. Consideration of variance requests for two variances on two parcels on the east side of Highway 42, north south of Eagles Lion Parkway to allow for construction of a town home development. Variance request number one would reduce the front yard setback. [3:39:53, 3:40:13]: Of the town hall lots require 50 feet to 30 feet. The applicant is LI Route 23 LC. And agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as listed below, 13.64 total acres within the stop and city limits. Parcel number 069. [3:40:13, 3:40:33]: Contains 10.61 acres in landlots one and two of District 7 and 11. Process number 070-0100-1000. 2612 Highway 42 North contains 3.03 acres in landlock 1 of District 0. [3:40:32, 3:40:40]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we need a motion to accept this, please. So moved. Is there a second? [3:40:41, 3:40:45]: Miss uh Miss uh Gantt second, I'll fair please indicate. [3:40:46, 3:40:48]: Oh okay, all pose? [3:40:48, 3:40:54]: I will abstain. Okay. Uh four zero one. I will oppose. This is the variance. This is [3:40:55, 3:40:56]: Wh which is it now? [3:40:57, 3:40:59]: He asked for what did he ask for? Thirty P. [3:41:00, 3:41:08]: The m the um I'm trying to take a vote. W whether you would you vote you voted na nay or you or abstain? Um I will oppose I will approve it. Excuse me? [3:41:08, 3:41:28]: I will approve. Okay, so it passes five zero. Thank you. All right. Variance case R V two Zero Two Four-Zero Two. Variance Request Number Two. Council District Five. Consideration of Varance Requests for Two Variances on Two Parcels on the East Side of Highway 42, North, South of Eagles Land Parkway to allow for the construction of townhome development. [3:41:28, 3:41:48]: Everyone's request number two would reduce the side or set back yard setbacks of the town home lots between buildings from the required uh 15 feet to 10 feet. The advocate ally route 23 L C and the agent is George Harper Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels and are listed below with a 13 [3:41:48, 3:42:08]: point six four total acres within stoppery city limits. Parcel number zero six nine dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero zero contains ten point six one acres in landlots one and two of district seven and eleven. Parcel dash uh zero seven zero dash zero one zero zero one zero zero zero twenty six twelve highway four [3:42:08, 3:42:15]: forty two north contains three point th uh zero three acres in landline one of district seven. Council I need a motion to approve. [3:42:15, 3:42:23]: Uh for clarification, Mr Anderson, this will provide twenty feet between the two homes, correct? Yes. So move. [3:42:24, 3:42:25]: Is there a second? [3:42:26, 3:42:28]: Ms. Uh Gantt Sexton, all free presentate. [3:42:29, 3:42:33]: Um I do have a question. W d what what's your vote? [3:42:34, 3:42:34]: Oh you [3:42:35, 3:42:36]: I have a question. [3:42:37, 3:42:39]: All right. What's your question? [3:42:40, 3:42:47]: So now that we've reduced the number of units for this development by three. [3:42:49, 3:42:52]: Do they really still need this variance? [3:42:53, 3:42:54]: Yes, I mean um [3:42:55, 3:42:57]: It's really not a variance, it's just um [3:42:58, 3:43:10]: It's kinda um hard to explain. Th there's kinda like a conflict in our um UBC. So basically they they will still have twenty feet in between the the two buildings as required by code. [3:43:13, 3:43:24]: But it's written in the in the text that you got to have a um a fifteen feet side yard setback. And that's what and also it says you gotta have twenty feet in between buildings. [3:43:25, 3:43:27]: So it's kind of in conflict with each other. [3:43:27, 3:43:36]: Um okay, so I'm going they still will meet the re the minimum requirement. I'm going to oppose. Okay. I will oppose. Okay. [3:43:36, 3:43:56]: 4-1, the motion passed. New business. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Oh, you are. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Council consideration to approve task order number two zero two four-07 with Falcon Design, Country Club Drive, the traffic and pedestrian safety improvements, the amount of eighty-eight thousand dollars. The funding sources from T C. [3:43:56, 3:44:00]: Oh wait a minute, I'm sorry. [3:44:04, 3:44:09]: Eight thousand. That's not eighty thousand, is it? [3:44:11, 3:44:31]: Oh okay that's what another zero too many zeros throwing me off here. Eighty eight thousand dollars. Funding sources T-SPLOST. All right, Mr. Aaron. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Go ahead. Go ahead, please. This is uh project that was identified in the T S PLOS to make safety improvements on Country Club Drive. It includes [3:44:31, 3:44:40]: A combination of things, a proposed traffic light at the intersection of Country Club and Patrick Henry, as I travel that road every day to and fro. [3:44:40, 3:44:53]: on the way to work and see numerous accidents, numerous near misses. It also includes sidewalks and additional markings and things to uh improve the area for walkability and safety as well. [3:44:53, 3:45:11]: So we're just asking approval of the task for task order so that we can move forward with designing these improvements. All right, thank you, sir. Uh council need a motion to accept this. Mr. Bear so moose. Is there a second? Sir. Mr. Alzheimer's second. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you. All right. [3:45:12, 3:45:32]: All right, now uh announces upcoming meeting events. Uh council meetings will be held in the city council chamber. Meeting dates, location, and times are subject to change, or contact city hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. Citywide Development Authority [3:45:32, 3:45:52]: Meeting second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, September 10th. I just passed. No, that's tomorrow, excuse me. Main Street Advisory Board Meeting on the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. location in the downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, September 13th. [3:45:52, 3:46:12]: Planning Commission meeting third Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers is September 19th. Downtown Development Authority meeting third Tuesday of each month. Stockbridge Downtown Center, 130 a.m. L. King Senior Heritage Trail, September 17th. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30, third Tuesday of each month. [3:46:12, 3:46:22]: Levi Meeting Room City Hall September 17th. City Council work session meeting last Tuesday of each month. Tuesday's July 30th. Okay. [3:46:25, 3:46:45]: 5 36 PM City Hall Council Chambers September 24th. Actually it's on the twenty fourth, not the thirty, obviously. Community zoning and information meeting Wednesday, October second at six P.M. seven uh six to seven PM the City Hall for the Council Chambers, which is gonna be October second there. Starbucks Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting. [3:46:44, 3:47:04]: First Thursday of each month, 6 p.m. a Stockbridge Police and Community Room, 4545 North Henry Boulevard, October 3rd. City Council meeting, second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chamber, October 14th. [3:47:04, 3:47:20]: Levi Meeting Room October 14th. Join the city of Stockbridge for the 50 Shades of Pink Love Walk to highlight breast cancer awareness and survivors of Clark Park and 111 Davis Rove from 1030 to 1 p.m. on the [3:47:22, 3:47:24]: It doesn't give the date here. [3:47:27, 3:47:30]: Anybody have the offer the date of them, have to get that date. [3:47:30, 3:47:36]: The w love walk, the pink love walk. It's on a s on a Saturday. I know it's on a Saturday. It's in October. [3:47:38, 3:47:39]: There's nine too. [3:47:41, 3:47:43]: Okay, one second, yeah, we'll look it up real quick. [3:47:45, 3:48:05]: And I believe you're right. It is the 19th of October, Saturday, 19th October. 19th October. All right. Upcoming events. Uh join the city of Stockbridge for the nine eleven remembrance on Wednesday, September eleventh, beginning at eight AM on the steps of City Hall, 4640, North Henry Boulevard. Uh join Councilman Thomas. [3:48:05, 3:48:25]: Afonso Thomas there for the monthly senior bingo bash on Wednesday 18 September from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merrill Manor's Conference Center 111 Davis Row for Raffles Prizes Games Snacks and F. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for a monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday the 23rd from 10 a.m. to noon the start. [3:48:25, 3:48:45]: City Council, Stockbridge City Hall. Bridgefest 2024 comes coming. This uh City of Stockbridge is hosting its annual event for the community on Saturday, September 28th, 2024, of course. And we'll have live concert, food trucks, vendors, and more. Get ready for the fun at Stockbridge Amphitheater. Please email B. Bradley. [3:48:45, 3:49:05]: at Stockbridge G A.org as soon as possible for vendor opportunities. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative centered around education, highlighting the cause and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow on that. Then of course call contact or excuse me, Councilman Thomas's RN veterans. We continue to salute all year long. [3:49:05, 3:49:12]: Please send your pictures of veterans' names and rank rank branch rank and years of service. And [3:49:15, 3:49:32]: And for Councilman Gantt, we'll be resuming the night market initiative uh September twelfth, uh which is in a couple of days. And that'll be happening also September twenty-sixth, October tenth, November seventh, and November twenty-first. [3:49:32, 3:49:52]: Uh and the location of course in the Amphitheater Parking Lot, 4650 North Henry Boulevard, partnership with Atlanta Food Truck and the times of those dates would be six PM to 9 30 p.m. And it'll be flyers out for that and uh giving you all that information. And this Friday, uh this Friday you'll have the taste of uh Henry. [3:49:52, 3:50:12]: At the Southern Bell Farms September 13th to Friday and from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. So if you and want to check out that, the taste of Henry, please attend that as well. And let's see here, please contact Rosland Ross to schedule the appointment to meet the mayor or for more information. [3:50:12, 3:50:32]: Council Initiatives and Events, 678-3833-3348, or email R Ross at Stockbridge G A.org. Finally, the 2024 Stockbridge Amphetonia Concert Series, Saturday, September 14th, the three-year anniversary celebration of cooling the gang with special guest more stay in the time. [3:50:32, 3:50:32]: Uh. [3:50:33, 3:50:49]: Saturday, October fifth, is featuring Monica Tamar Braskin Braskin Brax Braxton and Seventh Streeter. And that's rescheduled and that'll be the Saturday, the fifth of October. Uh Saturday, October twelfth, featuring that girl Lele and Friends at Youth Concert. [3:50:50, 3:51:04]: All right, uh Sunday, October thirteenth, Kings of Soul of Southern Soul Show, featuring King George, Tuckas, Sir Charles Jones Jones, Pokebare, TK Soul, Westlove and Derek the Chained Man, Smith. [3:51:05, 3:51:25]: Okay, it's the Sunday the 13th, Sunday, October 20th. It's also a rescheduled show featuring Charlie Wilson and special guest this time, Elle DeBarge. And we end the season for the 2024 season Saturday, October 26th. Jazz concert with Boney James, slow burn tour with special guest Damien Escobar. Stockbridge Main Street uh [3:51:25, 3:51:45]: Tiny tent series continues Fridays, weather permitting. The show will start at 6 p.m. and end at 8 p.m. The show will take place at 1 30 ML King Senior Heritage Trail in Stockbridge. Of course, we're in downtown area. Enjoy good food, local restaurants, and our community in one gorgeous location. Bring a family, make it a date night. Okay, make sure you bring [3:51:44, 3:52:04]: Bring your uh your chairs. And uh for my particular comments, uh it is uh it's September, so be safe out there and uh continue to be safe. Obviously, make sure you get your flu shots and any type of other shots for COVID if you need that, any type of health care issues, because the winter is coming and uh it's football season. [3:52:04, 3:52:18]: season so uh root on your favorite football team and uh I'd like to see you all at the concerts coming up before the season ends. On that note, uh I don't have any other I don't know of any executive session issues, council, so I need a motion to adjourn. [3:52:18, 3:52:24]: Is there a second? Second. Okay, Mr. Berry, second. All in favor, please indicate. God bless y'all. Good night. [3:52:25, 3:52:27]: You gotta see all those terrible times?
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    --- title: Community Zoning Information Meeting date: 2024-09-04 source: 2024-09-04_Community_Zoning_Information_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:30, 0:01:32]: Good evening, everyone. [0:01:32, 0:01:37]: Thank you and welcome to the community zoning and information meeting. [0:01:38, 0:01:41]: For Wednesday, September seventh. [0:01:43, 0:02:03]: We would like to start off the meeting with introduction of staff, go over rules and regulations and some procedures, departmental announcements, if there are any, and of course just introduce applicants and then we'll get into our presentations for tonight. [0:02:03, 0:02:12]: This meeting starts at 6 PM and it is an hour long meeting. So we are looking to wrap up around 7. [0:02:15, 0:02:31]: So first I want to introduce staff that are here tonight. Um we have myself, yours truly, Kidra Jatson, the chief planner. And over me is Brian Anderson. He's the director over community development. [0:02:31, 0:02:43]: We also have Linda Logan, the senior planner, and we also have Gordon Linton, planner one with the planning and zoning division. [0:02:45, 0:03:00]: Just go over some rules and regulations for tonight. Um nothing strenuous. We just ask that um you allow the applicant during his or her presentation to allow one to finish. [0:03:00, 0:03:03]: At the end of the presentation, staff will acknowledge your hand. [0:03:04, 0:03:24]: So we do ask that you raise your hand. We will then acknowledge you and allow you to speak. You may ask questions. If there are several others that are here waiting to ask questions, we ask that you just hold your questions until everyone has completed ask asking and getting their questions answered. [0:03:24, 0:03:44]: and you may um proceed to your second question at the acknowledgement of a staff member. And that is throughout all presentations for tonight. Anything that you are disagree with, you know, this is a passionate subject when it comes to new developments. [0:03:44, 0:04:00]: Um people have preference, what they would like in their neighborhoods. And we understand that some topics can get passionate. We ask that you be respectful of those that are presenting to hold all comments or um any. [0:04:00, 0:04:20]: Just outbursts. We ask that those are held. Um, if we have to speak to you more than once and we hope that it will not get to that point, then we may have to ask you to leave the building. Um over there, over overall it's it's just a [0:04:20, 0:04:22]: Simple, informal. [0:04:23, 0:04:33]: presentation tonight so you have the ability and the autonomy to ask any questions you may have of staff and the applicant. [0:04:34, 0:04:45]: As far as departmental announcements, um we do have announcements that we are looking to um begin to working on our [0:04:45, 0:05:05]: uh UDC code. So we are in the process of getting that together where we will be presenting new test amendment test amendments to the city by the city. And we ask that you just stay tuned. These test amendments may affect your development. [0:05:05, 0:05:10]: Or they may not, but y you're more than welcome to contact any staff member. [0:05:10, 0:05:12]: just to get additional information. [0:05:12, 0:05:13]: Um as you know [0:05:13, 0:05:25]: our any test amendment that we bring before a board uh such as planning commission or city council, they are advertised in um [0:05:25, 0:05:40]: in our newspaper. So we do ask that you um feel free to contact us if you have an interest or um just a question about a test amendment that we are bringing forward. Also [0:05:41, 0:05:43]: That's all I have for now. Do [0:05:44, 0:06:04]: Staff members have any announcements they would like to make? Okay. Well moving forward, we'll go ahead into the introduction of the first case. So the first case is a test amendment. It is TS das two zero two four-zero five. This is a citywide [0:06:04, 0:06:06]: [368.4, 385.0]: And that text amendment uh consists of um section two point four point four of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code to modify and augment the regulations for the multiple multiple family residential. [0:06:25, 0:06:41]: as known as MFR zoning district. Um one, the community um are invited to forums like this, which is the community zoning information meeting. Um before you get to this meeting, there is a pre-application meeting that we [0:06:42, 0:06:45]: hold with uh potential developers. [0:06:45, 0:06:48]: Then you come to this meeting, the next meeting will be the [0:06:49, 0:06:56]: planning commission meeting and that is scheduled to um happen on September nineteenth. [0:06:56, 0:07:01]: And after that meeting, any cases that will be held tonight and [0:07:01, 0:07:04]: At the September Fourteenth Planning Commission will then move on. [0:07:05, 0:07:10]: to step excuse me, October fourteenth City Council meeting. [0:07:12, 0:07:32]: Just want to make sure I have those dates correct. And um after that process, if this is a new development, it then goes through land disturbing process as well as a building process. And as you can see before you is a zoning process chart. Um, many of you may be familiar with that. If not, [0:07:32, 0:07:32]: Right. [0:07:32, 0:07:46]: Um, you're more than welcome to call staff to ask any questions, what happens at this point. Um, but this is the formal process w an application would go through to obtain its final approval. [0:07:50, 0:07:55]: So with that said, I'll go ahead and get into the MFR zoning regulations. [0:08:05, 0:08:25]: So before you is uh a proposed text amendment that will be before you. Um this is pertaining to our multiple family residential district, which mainly contain of townhomes and apartments. Um many times developers may have [0:08:24, 0:08:35]: A hardship um with this ordinance. Um it may be a developmental hardship. And so staff began to look closely to see what um [0:08:35, 0:08:49]: adjustments can we make to allow a more relaxed regulation um regarding this district? And so the changes that we are making um [0:08:49, 0:08:56]: are one to the front yard setback. So currently the front yard setback requires a fifty foot [0:08:56, 0:09:03]: setback um from the front property line. We're now amending to change that to 30 feet. [0:09:05, 0:09:25]: Our side yard currently has 15 feet, and we are looking to change that to 10 feet. So the side yard will be reduced to 10 feet with keeping the 20 feet between the buildings. Um other changes we're looking to make is to the [0:09:24, 0:09:44]: uh living space and i apologize um this is um currently not the changes that we've made but as you can see on your screen under minimum living area so studio right now is showing 800 square feet whereas the [0:09:44, 0:10:04]: The one bedroom shows a minimum living area of six hundred and fifty square feet. What staff is proposing to do is switch those to m to make it make sense. So the studio would now be six hundred and fifty square feet, whereas the one bedroom will be eight hundred square feet. [0:10:05, 0:10:25]: And the other changes that we are looking to make are more architectural changes, such as the image, the character of the building. [0:10:25, 0:10:37]: will be landscaping, those will all have um regulations into what the building will look like if one is seeking to rezone their property to MFR. [0:10:38, 0:10:48]: And that concludes this presentation. Again, you will heal hear this again at September 19th Planning Commission. [0:10:52, 0:11:12]: So what I'll go ahead and do is introduce the next case, which is a special use permit case number sp-2024-01. Um this is a public meeting for a special use request to allow a gas station and convenience store. [0:11:12, 0:11:30]: on parcel number zero three two dash zero one zero three zero zero one two. This property is located on the west side of Rock Quarry Road, across from the hospital drive. The applicant is GMI two, Incorporated, [0:11:30, 0:11:36]: Presented by Harold Buckley Jr., Esquire of the Law Firm of Wilson Brock and Erby. [0:11:37, 0:11:49]: And this property is located in land lot thirteen of District Six and it contains four point twenty six acres more or or less. I will now hand it over to mister Buckley. [0:11:57, 0:12:04]: If you were bear with me for just a moment, I'd like to just get set up really quickly and then I'll get going with my presentation. [0:13:09, 0:13:27]: Good evening, my name is Harold Buckley. As mentioned, I am an attorney and land use consultant for GMI2, which is the company that owns the property that you see in the site plan before you and the applicant in this case. [0:13:29, 0:13:49]: Uh just to orient you to the site, and as you you may have noticed, that Kedra did not read an address when she uh described my application, and that's because this property is currently undeveloped and it doesn't have an address. All it has is a tax ID number. If you look at the site plan on the screen, [0:13:49, 0:13:59]: screen and the which is the same as the handout I gave you, just in case your eyes are a little more seasoned like mine are and you find that hard to see. Um [0:14:00, 0:14:20]: Uh you will see a cul-de-sac that leaves off Rock Quarry Road. This site is on the west side of Rock Quarry Road. Uh it is directly across the street uh from the uh the hospital campus uh there on Rock Quarry Road. So if you were on that cul-de-sac and you went straight out. [0:14:20, 0:14:30]: if you went straight across the street, you would be then on the hospital property. So that's where we are talking about. Uh our property is zone C2. [0:14:30, 0:14:50]: Uh and uh the it this property is at the edge of the very large Eagles Landing commercial uh area. It's a lot of high-intensity uses, retail commercial, hotel, those sorts of things. Uh and so uh this is already [0:14:50, 0:14:55]: a a very established uh commercial node. Now [0:14:55, 0:15:15]: What we are asking for is a special use permit, because even though our uh zoning allows uh service stations, uh they're not allowed by right. We have to get site-specific approval for our use from the city council. Uh, if you will look at the rendering, [0:15:15, 0:15:35]: That I gave you, which is the second page, you will notice that although the application has connotations of a quick trip or a racetrack or a traditional standalone gas station, that is not at all what we're proposing. We are proposing what would more accurately be described [0:15:35, 0:15:55]: As a retail development that happens to have pumps on the front. And the reason I say that is because this is going to be, if it's approved, a multi-tenant retail building. There will be five retail spaces, of which the convenience store is just one. And it would occupy [0:15:55, 0:16:15]: The larger space that you see on the end. You know, what are we looking at in terms of the other spaces? We have not started marketing or targeting specific potential tenants yet because it's very difficult to market something that you really don't have the entitlements to. [0:16:15, 0:16:35]: To do. People don't tend to take you very seriously. But in a perfect world, we would have uh retail stores like a say a Verizon shop or uh small eating and drinking uh establishments uh that would go in there, uh maybe a personal [0:16:35, 0:16:55]: Service establishment like a barber could be a possibility. But we are again talking about a larger range of retail than what the term gas station would suggest. And this location is really good for that for a couple of reasons. [0:16:55, 0:17:15]: Number one, there is a lot of medical office around here. You know, the hospital campus is not just the hospital campus. There are medical office buildings where doctors have their offices. There are other residences nearby, not right up on us, that you know would be directly impacted by us at any time. [0:17:15, 0:17:35]: Any negative sort of way, but that gives us a built-in audience for the retail services and neighborhood services that would be offered on this site. It is possible that people could walk here from the hospital campus or from the nearby residential areas. I'm not going to suggest to you that this is going to [0:17:35, 0:17:55]: To turn into Midtown by any stretch of the imagination. But what I will say is the benefit of that proximity is that we have a built-in market where people can, for example, come out of the hospital property and go straight into our property to take advantage of these real retail services. [0:17:55, 0:18:11]: without getting on the road, without having traffic impacts in the surrounding area. So that opportunity in and of itself, I think, distinguishes this proposal from a typical convenience store gas station proposal. [0:18:12, 0:18:32]: The other thing that I would submit to you is that, you know, and it's a little paradoxical, but approving this convenience store actually protects this area from another convenience store because the city has minimum distance. [0:18:32, 0:18:52]: Requirements that are on the books today for you know in the zoning ordinance that would prevent another convenience store from being being able to locate in most of the rest of that commercial development node. That you know we talked about Eagles Landing. So [0:18:52, 0:19:12]: uh you know you if this goes in and this high quality way and not only is this a multi-tenant retail building but you can see in the renderings that this is you know not just say an epis or a stucco or you know some kind of low quality building proposal that we have. This is going to [0:19:12, 0:19:13]: [1154.0, 1164.8]: Uh if you look at the area behind the store, you see those two very large uh green areas with heavy tree cover. That's part of our site. [0:19:25, 0:19:45]: And we are proposing to develop that as well at some future point in time. We don't know exactly what might go there, uh, but our intent and what we have shown the city in prior iterations of our development plans are more medical office, which would make a whole lot of sense. [0:19:45, 0:20:05]: Given the proximity to the hospital and the develop the prevailing development patterns in this area. It could be that, it could be some other use, you know, office use, commercial use, and that would further reinforce the connectivity between. [0:20:05, 0:20:17]: this uh retail development and other people who are these folks would technically be off site, but they're off the gas station portion of the site. Those folks really would be able to walk. [0:20:17, 0:20:37]: Facility, which is consistent with the land use policies that you see in the comprehensive plan that are geared toward encouraging that kind of use. We're designated for mixed use development. So, for example, an office component and a retail component wouldn't meet that mixed use uh process. [0:20:37, 0:20:57]: policy priority. So for all of those reasons, uh we are asking for the city to rezone this property uh to facilitate our development proposal. We think that it that our proposal makes sense in this location. And I'll just stop there because you guys are very smart. I don't [0:20:57, 0:21:09]: need to talk at you for an hour for you to understand what we're talking about here, which is fairly straightforward. So thank you for your time. I'm happy if it's appropriate to take questions or however we go from here. [0:21:15, 0:21:16]: Yes. [0:21:22, 0:21:23]: Mm-hmm. [0:21:24, 0:21:25]: Mm-hmm. [0:21:27, 0:21:47]: So in and I don't know if everybody could hear that, but he said that if folks were walking from the hospital campus trying to cross hospital mean Rock Quarry Road, um that might be a bit of a challenge because there is no traffic signal at that location. Um and uh we don't believe that uh well in order to [0:21:47, 0:22:00]: order to get a traffic signal at this location, you would have to do a warrant study and to actually get the DOT to say that a traffic light is warranted there. I don't know that we would cross that threshold, but [0:22:00, 0:22:20]: A good thing about the the layout of our site and our development is that as I said, that cul-de-sac, which is uh you know going to serve not only the retail component, but the future development at the back, it directly lines up with the driveway to the hospital. So at some future point in time, they could signalize that. [0:22:20, 0:22:20]: Mm-hmm. [0:22:25, 0:22:27]: All right, thank you all very much. [0:22:41, 0:22:44]: Yeah. I don't know how to close a file apparently. [0:22:50, 0:22:58]: Thank you again, Mr. Buckley. So what we'll do is move on to the next case that will be before us and [0:22:59, 0:23:12]: What I'll do is just read it into record. The next case will be a special use permit SP-2024-02. And okay, so let me go to the next one. [0:23:16, 0:23:18]: Okay. Correct. [0:23:19, 0:23:39]: So the next case is a special use permit request to allow a liquor store on property at 106 Rock Quarry Road. The applicant is GRP LLC and the agent is Mr. Patel. The property is located in landlot 62 of District 12 and it contains. [0:23:39, 0:23:52]: contains less it has less than one acre more or less. So I will now open the floor to you and you may come forward. Thank you. [0:24:06, 0:24:08]: [1467.2, 1487.2]: My name is Bill Tiersey, I'm a dream hall from Herman Fink Van Horn, and uh I am not a liquor license or zoning lawyer, but I am here on behalf of one of my colleagues who's in Ireland. So uh Lisa Morshauer uh traditionally uh works these kinds of cases and represents. [0:24:47, 0:25:07]: GRP, but I will do my best this evening to assist. What I have presented to you is just a brief description of what it is that GRP is looking to do, and that is to purchase a [0:25:07, 0:25:27]: Building at 106 Rock Quarry Road. Images of it in the materials that I presented, and it's currently subdivided into three separate stores, but the plan will be to remove those interior walls and have one. [0:25:27, 0:25:40]: One building that's about twelve thousand square feet of beer, wine, and spirits sales. Um GRP has uh [0:25:40, 0:26:00]: plans to renovate the front fascia and there's some renderings of what the building will look like once that's done in the materials. Right now, this again it's been used for three separate businesses. There's parking out front, but [0:26:00, 0:26:20]: But uh GRP also has under contract a lot next to the building that's reflected in those materials that can also be developed for additional parking. Um, this is gonna be a nice store with a [0:26:19, 0:26:39]: a pretty significant selection of various beers, wines, and spirits. It's not just going to be a little corner convenience store by any stretch of the imagination. You're going to be able to get things maybe that you couldn't get at other locations. [0:26:39, 0:26:59]: GRP has plans to hire on-site security and to have off-duty police officers on site as well as video cameras for surveillance and to maintain a [0:26:59, 0:27:05]: safe and well lit parking lot. Um this is [0:27:05, 0:27:25]: uh resulting from frankly the growth in the area has resulted in additional surveys uh and and uh that show that the population is such that a another store like this is warranted. There aren't other uh beer wine [0:27:25, 0:27:40]: And package stores in the area. And with that, I am happy to try and answer whatever questions you have. And if I can't answer them, I'll commit to get the answer and get back to you. [0:27:44, 0:27:46]: All right. [0:28:06, 0:28:26]: Thank you very much. And for those that are watching, if you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to staff and we will get the answer to you as soon as possible. The last and final case for this evening is a special use permit SP-2024-03. [0:28:26, 0:28:38]: This special use permit request is to allow a personal care home on property at 270 She SHIELS Road. The applicant and agent is Shauna John. [0:28:39, 0:28:50]: The property is located in landlot 70, District 12, and it contains 1.47 acres more or less. I will open the floor to Ms. John. [0:28:58, 0:29:05]: Even ladies and gentlemen. Um first and falls, I'm Mr. Paul Jazz. I will [0:29:10, 0:29:30]: I said good evening, ladies and gentlemen. First and foremost, I must apologize because I wasn't aware that I had to had to preserve have a presentation until a few hours before the meeting. Um my my time here today is to ask for special. [0:29:30, 0:29:36]: special use permit to allow a personal care home at uh at my property at two seventy Shields Road. [0:29:38, 0:29:58]: I am willing to put my best foot forward and to accommodate the community, be part of the community, as to one day when I myself can be part of this home that I am trying to prepare for other people. My plan is to. [0:29:58, 0:30:18]: Have at least six clients and myself and two other workers to help care for elderly people that is unable to take care of themselves and the family are not able to accommodate them. So if I am granted this permit, I am [0:30:18, 0:30:20]: I'm willing to do the best that I can. [0:30:21, 0:30:24]: This is not a this is not a job for mi. [0:30:25, 0:30:26]: This is a passion. [0:30:27, 0:30:29]: I have been committed to [0:30:30, 0:30:30]: Served. [0:30:31, 0:30:32]: Since I was [0:30:32, 0:30:34]: young enough to even remember. [0:30:36, 0:30:38]: I started with my grand aunt. [0:30:38, 0:30:42]: that I took care of with my grandmother. [0:30:43, 0:30:47]: And this is where I learned what what I really wanted to do. [0:30:48, 0:30:51]: And the older that I get, the more passionate I get about it. [0:30:53, 0:30:58]: And today I have a personal care home in Clearland County, which I can only accommodate three people. [0:30:59, 0:31:02]: So right now they I want to extend [0:31:02, 0:31:09]: and devote my full attention and give all my care to those that will appreciate it. [0:31:10, 0:31:18]: So one day that I can receive what I have put out there. So if you all will allow me. [0:31:19, 0:31:31]: I will put my best foot forward and present what I can in order to accommodate the community and myself. [0:31:33, 0:31:37]: Anybody have any question that if I can answer, I will. [0:31:41, 0:31:45]: Yeah, six, you are six people. [0:31:45, 0:31:56]: Six people and I will have yes, yes, sir, and have two other workers, myself included, that will be free of us taking care of six people. [0:32:01, 0:32:02]: You love it. [0:32:03, 0:32:04]: It's not just gonna be [0:32:06, 0:32:07]: Yes, yes. [0:32:13, 0:32:33]: Well, um people come in and the they have visiting hours, people come in. It is a smaller version as a person um as a nursing home, but does not require all the skills and um the magnitude of people and coming in and out. [0:32:33, 0:32:41]: So it is just a smaller version of that. So there will not be all that people coming in and out every day. No. [0:32:49, 0:32:50]: Anybody else? [0:32:52, 0:32:53]: Alrighty, well thank you. [0:33:13, 0:33:26]: Thank you, Ms. John. We do thank everyone for participating tonight. Um, we understand that others may have additional questions that you may want to ask one on one. You do have that autonomy to do so. [0:33:26, 0:33:46]: Um this meeting is allotted to 7 p.m. So what if you want to approach your applicant, you can do so at this time. And if you need questions or have questions for staff, please feel free to contact myself, Linda, or Gordon. We're here tonight. And what we'll do is just open the floor for you to sub [0:33:46, 0:33:48]: Speak to us one on one. [0:37:27, 0:37:35]: So if there are no other questions or any comments for your applicant, we can adjourn for tonight. [0:37:35, 0:37:50]: The next meeting will be held here, same location, September 19th. That will be the Planning Commission meeting. That meeting starts at 6:30 p.m. The Planning Commission makes a recommendation to the city council. It's not a final [0:37:50, 0:37:53]: vote, but it's just a recommendation. [0:37:53, 0:37:56]: On October fourteenth is the city council meeting [0:37:57, 0:37:59]: Also held in this room at six PM by [0:38:00, 0:38:02]: City council will make a final [0:38:02, 0:38:03]: Boat. [0:38:03, 0:38:06]: on whether your application will move forward. [0:38:06, 0:38:13]: So that concludes our meeting for tonight. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to us. Thank you. Have a good evening.
  • 2024-08-27 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session

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    --- title: Work Session date: 2024-08-27 source: 2024-08-27_Work_Session.wav --- [0:00:16, 0:00:28]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. And we had a little technical difficulties there, but uh uh let me call this uh council work session uh dated uh Tuesday August twenty seventh and I have uh six oh eight. [0:00:29, 0:00:32]: And the invocation this evening. [0:00:32, 0:00:35]: Is uh Miss Gamp, please. Stand if you can. [0:00:37, 0:00:52]: May we bow our heads. Heavenly Father, we come to you today as humbly as we know how. Lord, we ask that you watch over our first responders and watch over the families and friends of all that were affected in today's incident. [0:00:52, 0:00:58]: We also ask, Lord, that for your prayer we pray for clarity and for understanding. [0:00:59, 0:01:00]: For this council [0:01:00, 0:01:01]: For our mayor. [0:01:02, 0:01:04]: For the city council and for the city of Stockbridge. [0:01:05, 0:01:16]: We ask that you pray for our staff, our contractors, our administration, and their families as they go day to day and walk doing what's right and what's best for the city of Stockbridge. [0:01:16, 0:01:19]: And we ask that you pray, Lord, for our nation. [0:01:20, 0:01:21]: We pray. [0:01:21, 0:01:25]: That we are all humble, and we pray that we are all. [0:01:25, 0:01:27]: In love and in peace. [0:01:27, 0:01:29]: That we understand [0:01:29, 0:01:29]: That [0:01:30, 0:01:37]: Discrimination is not the answer, that we understand that freedom is the answer and it is what we stand for here. [0:01:38, 0:01:44]: Father God, we ask these and other blessings in your name, and we ask that we make the decisions that are in the best interest for our city. [0:01:45, 0:02:02]: And to do us right. In your name we pray. Amen. Amen. The pledge of allegiance here. I pledge allegiance to the flag. Of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible, the liberty and justice for all. [0:02:03, 0:02:05]: Madam Clerk, Roll Call, please. [0:02:07, 0:02:11]: Good evening. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Temberry. [0:02:12, 0:02:16]: Let the record reflect Mayor Pro Tem Berry is not in attendance. [0:02:17, 0:02:28]: Councilmember Alexander. Here. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a forum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. [0:02:29, 0:02:36]: Ms. Gand, I need uh um amendment to the agenda, please. Yes, Mayor, I'd like to motion to amend the agenda to add a budget amendment. [0:02:36, 0:02:41]: Um section for an for the amphitheater um following the consent agenda. [0:02:41, 0:02:42]: Zero second to the motion. [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: Second. Okay, all favor, please indicate. [0:02:46, 0:03:06]: Unanimous decision, thank you very much. Now, Council need an amendment to uh to approve the rest of the agenda for this evening, please. So moved. Is there a second? Sir. From Ms. Gantt to Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. And uh see Mr. Berry now join us. Thank you, sir. All right, so review of the minutes now. So review the August [0:03:06, 0:03:17]: 12th council meeting minutes please council and then uh the 30 changes or uh changes that please get that to the to the to the actual clerk and then we'll approve those at our next meeting. [0:03:18, 0:03:35]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? Mayor Ford, there are no public comments. Okay, so the first item up this evening will be a presentation for the Henry County Transportation Advisory Group update presented by Mr. Gonzalez. Please, sir. He is of course as you would know is our Stockbridge representative. Welcome, sir. [0:03:37, 0:03:38]: You maybe in the council. [0:03:40, 0:03:42]: Please speak into the mic when you talk, sir. [0:03:43, 0:03:44]: I actually put a note and I forgot. [0:03:45, 0:03:47]: Good evening, Mayor. Maybe good evening, Council. [0:03:48, 0:03:48]: Good evening. [0:03:53, 0:03:54]: Mm-hmm. [0:04:09, 0:04:16]: Uh thank you for the opportunity to be here to discuss our latest quarterly meeting we had uh a couple of months ago with the transportation advisory group. [0:04:19, 0:04:27]: Like to talk about three items that we discuss, uh the latest updates on roadway projects, uh transit service, and transportation planning. [0:04:30, 0:04:45]: Uh one of the major projects we wanted to just uh discuss uh is the Rock Quarry Road project. Uh unfortunately the bid date was moved from September of this year to January of next year, due some uh due to the environmental issues. [0:04:46, 0:04:48]: We'll keep monitoring that project. Uh [0:04:48, 0:04:57]: If I find any more information, I'll I'll I'll let the council mayor know. The next project, uh there was a notice to proceed to the contractor to be in work on the Western Parallel Connector. [0:04:58, 0:05:05]: Uh you should start seeing work uh soon. Uh and then the construction is uh for twenty twenty six. [0:05:07, 0:05:15]: Uh there hasn't been much updates on the interchange uh at I seventy five in Bethlehem. It's still uh [0:05:16, 0:05:36]: Is still uh tentative for construction on 20 uh for next year. Uh the for the two US uh 23 state state route forty-two widening projects, the the first one uh it's uh under construction and still uh tentative completion at 2027. Uh the other project uh [0:05:36, 0:05:45]: Uh 42 widening from McDonough to uh North Henry Boulevard is uh scheduled for construction 2030. [0:05:49, 0:06:09]: on the change gears here for the uh transit service. Um trying to from our last conversation we uh we had here, wanted to follow provide some information, some additional information to uh as this uh bus route service is being developed, there was a meeting held, public meeting held uh about a couple weeks ago [0:06:09, 0:06:18]: Um the presentation can be uh downloaded uh at the uh trans uh transit uh website. It can be downloaded. [0:06:21, 0:06:38]: I wanted to go over some of the slides that were presented on the once on the s uh presentation that was provided. Uh one of the main things is to provide connectivity to uh key key areas such as uh the city, uh connect to the express park and ride. Uh [0:06:39, 0:06:41]: Also connect to the P Bon Henry Hospital. [0:06:44, 0:06:53]: Another uh benefit of this bus route is to connect to uh shopping uh government services such as the city hall, residential developments. [0:06:57, 0:07:10]: Uh the stakeholder engagements of course would be the city, uh McDonough, uh the hospital, where we have uh a Chamber of Commerce, uh other stakeholders that will benefit from this route. [0:07:14, 0:07:20]: One of the items discuss is the current construction at the Piedmont Hospital, which will [0:07:20, 0:07:37]: Unfortunately temporary reroute, some of the uh the bus route through the hospital. There's there's still discussions on on how that's to be completed. One of the main issues they find is to to make that left turn at Raw Quarry Road at uh hospital drive. So they're trying to work out some of the uh details on that. [0:07:41, 0:07:51]: Uh one of the items that from our last meeting was discussed the hours operation. Right now the attentive uh hours of service will be six AM, six PM, Monday to Friday. [0:07:52, 0:07:53]: The proposed fare will be two hundred fifty. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: Per trip. [0:07:55, 0:08:07]: The scenarios for the frequency of how how often the the the buses will pass uh the bus stops will be dep depend on uh how many buses uh are obtained from the the county. [0:08:07, 0:08:16]: Uh if you start out at two buses it'd be a sixty minute up to if if they can uh acquire four buses, could be up to a thirty minute frequency. [0:08:20, 0:08:34]: Uh one of the benefits touted by having this bus route would be uh being a half mile uh to almost twenty-four thousand residents, uh close to nine thousand jobs within the half half mile of the stops. [0:08:34, 0:08:42]: Um and uh other services now with the microservice and uh again connecting to the uh express park and ride. [0:08:44, 0:08:58]: The funding sources for for this bus route currently uh the county received grant money for the for this route for three years, two million per year. The county is uh matching with up to four hundred thousand a year. [0:08:59, 0:08:59]: Uh [0:09:00, 0:09:03]: The fares will help pay offset some of the costs. [0:09:03, 0:09:08]: But after the three years, there'll be some discussion of how uh move forward with the bus routes. [0:09:13, 0:09:23]: The next step for these uh the bus route is to uh additional public uh meetings. There will be a presentation the with the board of commissioners. [0:09:24, 0:09:29]: It it's tense of uh September, but could be uh October, depends on some of the details are working out. [0:09:29, 0:09:34]: They're the the service should begin early twenty twenty five, in the early next year. [0:09:37, 0:09:57]: Uh another uh part of the transit uh initiative besides the bus route are the bus stops itself, uh the shelters. Uh there is additional money that was provided per grant to try to make some of these bus stops unique uh per location. There's been workshops to help uh with local artists. [0:09:57, 0:10:10]: to see how they can incorporate uh culture, uh different aspects uh depending on the the bus stop. For example, the amphitheater, themes of music, items like that. [0:10:13, 0:10:16]: And more information can be found on the transportation planning website. [0:10:19, 0:10:22]: uh switching gears to transportation planning [0:10:24, 0:10:27]: The uh there's continued crash trends in the in the county. There's a [0:10:27, 0:10:47]: There's uh grant money that we're would provide to try to find ways uh to reduce that uh with the goal of zero accident, zero uh deaths. Um the the county is soliciting help from the cities. Two out of the four cities are participating in this in this uh plan. Um they will reach out to the other two. [0:10:47, 0:10:50]: as this uh this plan progresses. [0:10:53, 0:11:02]: The update on the connected vehicle technology deployment, the devices are installed. There there's there's some upgrade issues. [0:11:02, 0:11:08]: Uh they're they're still working on those. Uh it's still not gonna be online probably this year, perhaps next year. [0:11:09, 0:11:29]: Uh the goal is to monitor the response before and after uh deployment of these devices uh to to help um the fire engines uh go through certain signal lights uh a little quicker. Uh an example uh that shows some savings are in Marietta, Georgia. They implemented some of this technology, save up to on average two minutes. [0:11:29, 0:11:31]: [695.4, 715.4]: Uh another initiative is the wayfinding plan. Um it's been completed, it was approved. This once the uh trails start coming online, you'll start seeing uh these type of signs. Uh there's actually the standards now that provide the font heights. Uh so each city will have a unique there. [0:11:55, 0:12:03]: they'll have the the the name within the trail within the city and then you'll under you'll be able to navigate depending on the the type of signs are installed. [0:12:06, 0:12:20]: Uh and provide an update on the SPLOS. It's it's for the fifth the referendum. There was a meeting with the cities and the county recently. Next step is for the approval of the list. [0:12:20, 0:12:25]: And uh more information on on the splash can be found on the splas website under information link. [0:12:28, 0:12:39]: Uh for more information on the information I provided you can found uh on the Hendry County website on the transportation planning. Um we also have the minutes on our tag meetings as well. [0:12:43, 0:12:46]: This it concludes my presentation. Any questions? [0:12:47, 0:12:55]: Yeah, um yeah I've I have a couple. Um could you expand a little bit more on on the on the trail aspect now? [0:12:56, 0:13:03]: And that and I should know this, I suppose. And the way the way finding plan? Right yeah, okay, there you go. Wayfinding plan. Yes. Can you expand on that? [0:13:03, 0:13:23]: Yes, uh and the plan that was developed it it's more to to to provide a uh a standard for the cities and the county. Um these the the the signs will be standard in each city, but we'll have of course if it's within city limits, we'll have city Stockbridge or McDonough. Um these the instead of having different fonts or different type, this will be more [0:13:23, 0:13:31]: uh uh uh uh consistent throughout the as we develop the tra trail parks, uh trails in the the county. [0:13:32, 0:13:33]: Nunca. [0:13:34, 0:13:42]: Uh do you you have an idea of what we what our way of finding signs look like right now, what we have designed or what we have had designed? [0:13:42, 0:14:02]: The one I'm not familiar with currently, I uh my iron standard's not really a standard. I guess c uh at least county wide not a standard. Um each city uh I'm uh I'm sure has its unique w okay, okay. I'm gonna answer your question. Well you're gonna answer the question. Yeah, this the county has their own wayfinding program. That's what he's talking about. He's not talking about our program. [0:14:02, 0:14:16]: He's talking about their program, which is gonna be countywide that they're doing in the unincorporated area. That's why the signage look different. But in when they're in the city limits, it will say Stockbridge or Locust Grove or whatever, but it will be their signage, not ours. [0:14:18, 0:14:28]: All right. But we also we also have our own way signing, but the what you're talking about specifically is the county wayfinding pro. They started on theirs after how we did. Okay. Yeah. [0:14:29, 0:14:42]: All right. That helps. Thank you. Um and then I had one other in reference to the you said uh f two two to four cities were only involved in a certain program here. Yes, uh the [0:14:42, 0:14:44]: The accident, the um [0:14:45, 0:14:47]: Comprehensive [0:14:52, 0:15:10]: Uh let me see. It was on a slide dealing with the Henry County Transit Service updates. You're talking about thirty s forty five and sixty minute frequencies. Yes, this was the trash trans yes, the comprehensive safety action plan. Right, you said t number of buses. Two buses I guess is a longer period of time for frequency. [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: Oh yeah, the transit, the the actual bus route, yes. Right. [0:15:13, 0:15:33]: Yes, depending on how many buses they can acquire. Uh right now they're between I spoke with the transit director. Depends between two to four buses. If if if they can acquire four buses with the with the funding they have, it'll reduce the time uh per stop uh 30 minutes. It'll pass each each uh bus stop. If it's only two buses, it'll be probably not. [0:15:33, 0:15:36]: hour to await on each stop. [0:15:37, 0:15:39]: Depending on traffic conditions. [0:15:41, 0:16:01]: And when's uh when should they know that? Uh the number of buses they would have? Some I I'd maybe I'll I would have to speak with the director. I know they're still tentative. He c he he couldn't speak much uh as they they're still developing the plans. Um right now they're the the cost of everything as you know is going up and the buses as as well. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: So the they've it'd be the [0:16:03, 0:16:07]: It'll depend on how much they can get with the the the money they have available. [0:16:08, 0:16:08]: Right. [0:16:09, 0:16:29]: Are any other council any council, any other comments? Go ahead, Mr. S. I wanna thank you, sir, because obviously how long does it take you to do it? You're a volunteer. Right. How long does it take you to put this together? I know, you're being modest, but really how long does it take it for you? A few hours. It's it's uh just it takes time to find information. [0:16:29, 0:16:49]: I wanna be able to uh provide as as I would wanna uh see the information. Um we I go uh attend the meetings, they're very straightforward. Uh the Sam uh is very the director of Henry County, very he's very uh thorough with the information, so I always want to be be able to provide as much and then in speaking with Sam [0:16:49, 0:17:06]: some of the the staff uh additional as as I think I'm the I think I'm the only one that presents with the uh with the staff so I wanna be able to have as much information for that's more localized for Stockbridge. It's usually general for for the county, but I won't I won't be able to have the information for for the city. [0:17:06, 0:17:26]: Right. I just want to tell you thank you, because I know you're doing this. You're a volunteer. You're doing a lot. So I certainly appreciate that. And certainly I want to make sure we're making the best use of your time. But certainly that first uh graphic that you pointed out that had uh Rock Quarry Road on it, Western Parallel Connector, those projects were [0:17:26, 0:17:46]: Right there, I would think would give the biggest uh information flood for us to be able to, because those are the ones that we want to make sure that we stay uh in tune with so that we can stay uh in essence. It's great news to hear that the Western Parallel Connector, which is a connector highway from Hudson. [0:17:46, 0:18:06]: Bridge Road to Jodico Road down to Jonesboro Road has had a they have the proceed, they have the notice to proceed already, which means they could get started tomorrow or the next day. But we certainly expect them to get started within the next month or two and then move that project forward. It sounds very [0:18:06, 0:18:26]: Very aggressive and that they're going to finish by 2026. But it's important for folks to understand that a segment of that road, as you know, has already been completed from Jodico Road down to Mount Olive. So the city was very proactive in being able to work and with and the developer contacting GDOT so that. [0:18:26, 0:18:46]: That they could build their portion of the road as they finish the Costco in there. So this is great. This is in my district, so I kind of kept up with it to make sure that I was very aware of what was going on. So, folks, if y'all are tuning in out there, understand we got a$54 million road project that's gonna start. [0:18:46, 0:19:06]: That's going to create a highway from Hudson Bridge Road down to Jodico to Jonesboro Road, a four-lane highway that will be an alternative right to I-75. And we've been able to do that because we worked together and we pushed as this council as well to make sure that that was happening. [0:19:06, 0:19:26]: On the other side of that, it was disappointing, as you said, for Rock Quarry Road, the bid for Rock Quarry Road to be, you know, put off once again. So certainly we want to make sure that we do everything possible to take the timetables tightly. So I've communicated to some of the [0:19:26, 0:19:46]: county officials that we we certainly want to see that timetable and right away speed it up. So whatever you can do to get that message to go back through the system that we certainly want to see them hold firm to that deadline uh in January. We don't want to see any more slides because I know all I think I can speak for all of us up [0:19:45, 0:20:04]: here that we want to see Rock Cory Road uh widening move or move along right now so that we can release some of this traffic. But I love what you did and thank you for the amount of time that you're doing because I can I see the work and I know the research that you have to do in order to do this. So thank you. [0:20:05, 0:20:25]: My pleasure. Let me follow up with that. Maybe I missed it. It says here uh it's delayed for environmental issues. Yes. Did you explain? I maybe I may have missed it. What are those issues? If I'm not mistaken, it's the documentation. It's it's a process, it's it's sometimes beyond it's not even G dot per se. It's federal. Uh it depends what they find. I I don't know the details exactly. [0:20:24, 0:20:37]: Exactly. I I just know they it's been going back and forth uh depending on on Run Creek, some of the uh mitigation. If I think they have some issues with mitigation. So it's taking time. All right, so be it. Miss Gand, did you have a question? [0:20:37, 0:20:41]: No. I just wanna thank you for the presentation. [0:20:41, 0:20:44]: Anybody any other council members? No question. [0:20:44, 0:20:54]: Same, I just wanna thank you again for putting this together and and again I echo the concerns'cause my my uh heart and my uh attention focus is definitely on the rock cord project. [0:20:54, 0:20:57]: And so, uh, like has already been stated, anything that we can do [0:20:58, 0:21:04]: to uh make sure that we hold fast to the timeline would be greatly, greatly appreciated. So any extra push [0:21:04, 0:21:07]: You could do and we can do. Oh, we would appreciate it. Well. [0:21:08, 0:21:28]: Mm-hmm. Okay, no other questions and thank you, Mr. Gonsal. I appreciate it. Pleasure. Right. Thank you for all your hard work without a doubt. All right. Discussion is next. Enterprise fleet lease uh discussion. And we have uh Tejah Broderick, is that how you pronounce your name, sir? Taj. Tajai is going to come forward and uh talk with us and [0:21:28, 0:21:32]: And uh I guess if Mr Aaron, you're gonna tag team this as well? [0:21:32, 0:21:52]: No, sir. I just was gonna introduce him. Oh, I'm sorry. He's good right now. Mr. Bodri has been working with the police department and public works to look at different options for procuring vehicles for the city. And one of the things we've discussed is about the electric vehicles. So he will give us a presentation tonight that accomplis accomplished not only vehicles for the [0:21:52, 0:21:56]: police department, public works, but also the city as a whole. [0:21:58, 0:22:01]: Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Good evening. Evening to you as well. [0:22:03, 0:22:23]: So I believe you all have this here. As Mr. Aaron just stated, I've been working with City of Stockbridge here since roughly about April of this year. And together what we've been able to do is identify a plan that's gonna help the city replace their vehicles. So right now the current age of the vehicles in the city of Stockbridge is negatively impacting the overall budget. [0:22:23, 0:22:43]: Budget of the City of Stockbridge. So what I'm looking to do and what I've done is identified a right vehicle cycle to go ahead and present a conservative savings of roughly$221,000 over the course of 10 years for the City of Stockbridge. And that would be done by replacing the older vehicles with newer vehicles. So also [0:22:43, 0:23:03]: So with that, by replacing your older vehicles with newer vehicles, that improves the safety of the vehicles that you you have now. Because as we know, the older vehicles um they don't have they don't measure up to the safety standards of newer vehicles today. Uh we'll be doing this by piggybacking off of the source well agreement. So uh be I want you everyone to be clear that this is not a [0:23:03, 0:23:23]: First time program. This is something that's been vetted out through the state of Georgia, something that's been vetted out across the country, and you guys would not be the first people, first city or county to take part of this program. So a few things I do want to touch on because those are some things that typically come out with questions is the leasing part, the way we sell. [0:23:23, 0:23:43]: vehicles and then I'll go ahead and touch in the electric vehicle aspect as well. So the lease of what enterprise offers, whenever anyone hears the word lease, they s sometimes think of your traditional dealership lease where you pay your vehicle down to a zero dollar balance at the end of the vehicle at the end of that term, um you just basically turn your vehicle in. Um you get charged [0:23:42, 0:24:02]: Mileage penalties, you get charged wearing chair penalties. Uh here with Enterprise, what we have is a called an open-ended lease. So this open-ended lease, to give you an example, keep things pretty simple. If we were to take a$20,000 vehicle, we would what we do is we identify every digital balance. So we take a$20,000 vehicle and we pay this vehicle down to$5,000. [0:24:02, 0:24:22]: Over the course of that term, you're only financing$15,000. So as you multiply that off over the course of the 101 vehicles that you guys have, that's just um cost savings in that aspect of itself. At the end of this term, what we do is we then sell that vehicle for you. So we sell that vehicle, say, for$10,000. You guys satisfy the$5,000 residual, and then that$5,000 [0:24:22, 0:24:41]: goes back to the city of Stockbridge and you have the option of using that those funds however you like. So uh typically what we've been saying is people will transfer those funds back to the next to the new vehicle and what that's gonna ultimately do is just lower your monthly payments for you guys. So that one goal there is to continue lowering your payments to operate these vehicles because [0:24:42, 0:24:55]: You guys are city, you guys have the best buy in the world to purchase vehicles, but what we're not doing is we're not maximizing the opportunity with the vehicle by holding on to the vehicle for over four or five years or before it gets to a hundred thousand miles. [0:24:55, 0:25:15]: The next piece is the way we sell our vehicles. Um, the way we sell our vehicles is really the true value of the program. Right now, today you hold on to your vehicles for say 10 years, you sell the vehicles on govdeals.com or maybe at an auction. What we're going to do is we're going to have an actual team that sells these vehicles for you. We hand sell all of our vehicles. Um [0:25:15, 0:25:35]: It's not me personally that sells the vehicles, it's a separate team that's solely graded on how well they can sell the vehicles above Black Book average. So that's gonna be something similar to Kelly Blue Book, but we call it commercial Black Book. So this team is graded on how well they can sell above that average, and typically we are about 10 to 12 percent higher than Black Book Average when we sell our. [0:25:35, 0:25:41]: vehicles. Right. So that there is just gonna be the next piece of the funds that go back to you guys as well. [0:25:42, 0:26:02]: Uh the last thing I want to touch on is really just gonna be the electric vehicle part that was that was mentioned to me a couple times. So Enterprise has over the last two years has been, I guess, a pioneer for the electric vehicle market. Um recently we've partnered with the city of South Pasadena that's out in California. We've completely electrified their police department and then also I'm pretty sure you've [0:26:01, 0:26:20]: A lot of people have seen the commercials with dominoes, all of the electric vehicles with dominoes, those are all provided through enterprise fleet management. So that's roughly about 800 vehicles or so as of today. At this point, I kept this pretty high level, but I wouldn't really like to open it up to you guys to ask me some questions about the program and get a better understanding of it. [0:26:21, 0:26:41]: I would imagine that thank you for the presentation, but I would imagine that we decided to do this and depending on how many vehicles we would want would also kind of drive how many different uh stations we would have to get installed as well. But what's the percentage or is there a percentage of stations per so many cars or or is it one on one? No, that's completely up to ratio I should say. [0:26:41, 0:26:41]: [1601.6, 1621.6]: Yeah, that's completely up to the city. We've seen it done a couple different ways to where you may have charges placed just for the city itself. Then we've seen some cities put charges in that they've opened up to the public. So that's something that the city itself determines. We do work with a um charger provider called Charge Point that comes out and installs these charges for you, but there's multiple levels of chargers. So you have level one, twos, and three. [0:27:01, 0:27:04]: threes, but that's all depending on how you guys like to set that up. [0:27:05, 0:27:25]: So initially you don't is you don't have a particular ratio that you d you kind of kind of look at giving or s or talking to us about a ratio of charges per how many vehicles that we have. It's really just up to the customer, I suppose. Exactly. We don't necessarily provide the chargers, we just provide the vehicles. So the charge point itself, I would provide you guys with a representation. [0:27:24, 0:27:43]: representative from Charge Point and they will come out and pretty much customize a plan for you when it comes to your chargers. Because here you may set up some chargers here at City Hall, then you might have some charges at the police department. Um it's you can have your charges pretty much set up anywhere. And there's like I said, there's levels to the charges that you can have installed. All right. I thank you. Council, any questions? [0:27:43, 0:27:44]: Okay, Ms. Elsen? [0:27:45, 0:27:50]: So in terms of the you've been with the program how l you've been with the program, I'm sorry, how long? [0:27:50, 0:28:10]: I've been with Enterprise for eight years. Eight years. So in general, you looking at these uh the new EV rollout. So in general, what would you say? Let's say you got these cities on here, Bainbridge, Roswell. How many charging stations do they generally have for their fleet or do or is there like a a a number that you might be [0:28:10, 0:28:19]: I Roswell has some. I'm not exactly sure how many stations they have. Um but they do have some electric vehicles that they are working with. [0:28:20, 0:28:40]: Okay, so they have well what you've seen in terms of what the setup you've seen, you seen different distributions at different areas for right now. We got ten po ten cords outside here already set up. Okay. So I'm sure the provider will be able to come in a understanding that those charge points right there are not the very highest. [0:28:39, 0:28:59]: Grade, which is the points for the uh the top charger, which is the rapid charger. And certainly we would want to observe certain invest in some of those uh in terms of making sure that we had it available. So the charge points, as you've seen in the past, you said some of them would be just kind of isolated to city. [0:28:59, 0:29:05]: city usage and then some jurisdictions have actually put them out there in public locations and shared them. [0:29:05, 0:29:06]: Yes. [0:29:06, 0:29:26]: Uh that's basically so I haven't seen the shared portion done here in the state of Georgia. I've I've known of it being done. But essentially what they do is it's like a profit sharing to where they they set it up in a general location that it's a city-owned location, but people have access to them. So there's different charges that you guys have seen where you can put your phone to the to the pavement system. [0:29:26, 0:29:31]: And you can be charged that way. Um that's what I've been seeing done. When I say sharing, that's what I've basically seen done before. [0:29:32, 0:29:48]: Right, and the price point or the price point's pretty comfortable at this point. I understand the price points on these E V heads have been going down. So what is the price point pretty uh is it getting closer or or uh in that area to further transition or savings kind of make up the difference? [0:29:49, 0:29:51]: Pricing for EVs that's [0:29:51, 0:30:11]: EV EV took a turn maybe I'll say maybe about a year and a half ago. EV was really on the high up, and then everyone kind of started transitioning toward the hybrid models just because of the infrastructure and everything. So the cost of EVs, I wouldn't say they've fluctuated too much or made a great significant change to the betterment of to making it a lower cost to operate an EV. [0:30:11, 0:30:31]: EV, but I will say that the EV market itself did take a turn maybe like I said about a year and a half ago because everyone was all focused on EVs and then I think we all realized that we didn't just didn't have the infrastructure to change everything to EV all at one time. So what I have been seeing a lot more is just the hybrid, plug-in hybrids more than uh EVs. [0:30:31, 0:30:51]: So in terms of you, um and the overall um build up of the system, you said there was uh uh you said California, someone had actually I know Savannah had invested very heavily, so you had uh witnessed I guess a city in California had totally changed into [0:30:51, 0:31:11]: Uh the E V m how how did that go? Yep, so it's the same exact program. The E V doesn't change the the process of the program. This that's just the vehicle itself. But essentially what they did was they replaced all of their patrol vehicles to the Mom Ford Mach E's and that's th that's their new patrol vehicles now. So um the Mach E's and [0:31:11, 0:31:16]: And they also have the Ford interceptors as well, but those haven't come out as E V just yet. [0:31:16, 0:31:36]: They're having some more trucks. They're manufacturers are making a lot more EV vehicles available today. That's what I I have seen. Um as far as coming from Chevy to Ford, there are more vehicles out that are E V available. Okay, now as far as your cost us for the EV model and then EV standard model. So [0:31:36, 0:31:41]: So how does that work? Is it complicated? Is it same? Is it different? [0:31:41, 0:31:49]: So I don't really I don't control the price of the vehicle. That's typ typically on the that's solely on the manufacturer. We can go out to any manufacturer that you like. So that's [0:31:50, 0:32:10]: the manufacturer decides pricing on vehicle. I don't determine pricing and your price doesn't change because you're getting the vehicle through enterprise. You don't have you don't have like a standard fleet of vehicle. You just work with pretty much anybody that we choose. So you don't have like well like some comp somebody deal with four or somebody deal with shit. You just basically use whomever we choose. [0:32:10, 0:32:30]: Right. So what after my part here, my part is to really identify a plan with the city. After I step away and you identify this plan, you guys are assigned a client strategy manager that works with you four to five times out the year. And what they'll do is they'll identify exactly what your goals are. So if you're saying, hey, we're looking for a pursuit vehicle or we're just looking for a regular admin vehicle, we're going to run an analysis [0:32:30, 0:32:50]: Analysis based off the amount of miles that you do per year, and we're gonna find the lowest cent per mile vehicle to operate at that time. So whether that's a Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Nissan, it has we have no kind of play in the game here. What we are gonna do is go directly to the manufacturer and order the vehicle directly from the manufacturer and provide it to you. So at Enterprise, in just in Atlanta, we have [0:32:50, 0:32:58]: We have over 20,000 vehicles that are leased out to clients, but we don't physically hold these vehicles like on a lot or anything. We order all of our vehicles. [0:32:58, 0:33:18]: So pretty much uh what you're saying uh in this instance is that we would be able to set up the program tailored to us, and there's a lot of data available on which vehicle to choose, and the next step would be there will be somebody that would come to work with us on the type of vehicles that we want, and then they have they would they will be able to [0:33:18, 0:33:38]: go through the whole gambit. They're not locked down to one manufacturer. They can choose whatever vehicle that they want, which is the best available. Exactly. I've seen cities and counties that have Fords, GMs, Dodge. Sometimes you just they want to stay away from Ford or you want to stick with Chevy. And it has no no preference of us. What we're here to solely do is just provide you the lowest [0:33:38, 0:33:44]: for my um recommendation for you. Okay, thank you. Council go ahead, Miss Barber. [0:33:45, 0:33:52]: Okay, so you did mention you all do offer pursuit vehicles. Oh yes. Okay. We offer any vehicle that's made. [0:33:52, 0:33:55]: Okay. I'm curious to know what the impact [0:33:55, 0:34:09]: um to our police department if we should approve this program. Um I don't know a whole lot about leasing other than what you just explained. Um I imagine. Our [0:34:10, 0:34:12]: Current fleet of [0:34:12, 0:34:14]: Pursuit vehicles. [0:34:14, 0:34:20]: Can be a little low in mileage at this point. We're only two years, two and a half years. [0:34:21, 0:34:23]: Into having our police department. [0:34:23, 0:34:26]: So if we were to convert or [0:34:26, 0:34:31]: work with you all. I'm just curious to know what that impact would look like. [0:34:31, 0:34:34]: As far as cost on mileage. [0:34:35, 0:34:38]: Replacement vehicles, new vehicles. [0:34:38, 0:34:40]: I don't know that, but [0:34:40, 0:34:43]: Yeah. So you're saying how much does it cost to replace a vehicle? [0:34:43, 0:35:03]: Is that what you're asking me? Yes, to replace a pursuit vehicle. Yeah, great question. So right now, majority of the police fleet is between 2018 and 2022. So, like you said, you guys just replaced the vehicles a lot, majority of your vehicles last year. So as it says here, only 25% of the vehicles are over 10 years at the moment. So when it comes to your police department, we were on [0:35:03, 0:35:23]: only focusing on uh so fort mock E's which are electric vehicles and then Ford Expeditions which are going to be more so I believe for the captain but as far as your pursuit vehicles we didn't have it we don't have any plans at the moment to replace any of your pursuit vehicles this year. Oh okay. Okay. Thank you. Yeah and then the model that you guys are seeing this model is done every year so when we meet [0:35:23, 0:35:39]: with you when that client strategy manager meets with you those four to five times a year, they're looking to identify what it is your budget is that for that year to that way you can stay inside of that budget. So this model here that you see, the tenure model, is going to be uh revamped every year for you. That way we can make sure we stay inside of that budget for you. [0:35:40, 0:35:42]: Right. Go ahead, Mr. Bear. [0:35:42, 0:35:48]: That's that's where my question lies. It's over the uh the ten year model and I see y your numbers show that there's a uh [0:35:48, 0:36:08]: A savings of two hundred and twenty one thousand roughly in ten years. Is that a a gradual compound of savings that we'll see progress over time or is that a a hard line twenty two K per year that we will see in savings and uh as compared to what our current model is now? So it doesn't [0:36:09, 0:36:29]: Compared to our budget, it doesn't seem like a robust amount of savings when you look at it annually. So I want you to elaborate on that. What does that 221 K in 10 years look like compounded over time? Yeah. So the model, like I said, if the model is really just for conceptual purposes. At the end of the day, we're recommending that you replace 22 vehicles this first year. [0:36:29, 0:36:49]: Based off the age of the fleet and the mileage on the fleet. So that means that we've identified 22 vehicles to be over 10 years old or have over 100,000 miles on them. When you guys, when I met with uh Mr. Aaron, police chief, they've all identified the certain amount of vehicles that they want to replace. So right now, that's closer to the number of 16 to 17 vehicles. [0:36:49, 0:37:09]: So this number can change based off of how many vehicles you decide to replace. The key thing with this right here is that by replacing these older vehicles, we're gonna reduce that maintenance cost and we're gonna reduce the fuel cost. And that's the m that's the highest cost when it comes to operating any fleet. So how will we perceive that? Like what does the main like what will we see in maintenance savings? Because that I guess that's the part [0:37:09, 0:37:29]: That's the rub that I'm really missing because over the life of the 221, it it it's not really moving. That's that number ain't moving me over 10 years. But I do wanted to see something statistically or on paper what it looks like, what maintenance savings would be uh going to a more controlled newer vehicle. [0:37:29, 0:37:30]: Yeah. [0:37:30, 0:37:50]: Changing them in and out. Yeah. What what what will we see? Like what is our and I guess you probably can't answer that yourself. That's probably some internal stuff that we need to discuss about it. But I really would like to see comparatively what our internal maintenance on existing vehicles will look like under the current plan versus what it will look like under this proposed plan. [0:37:50, 0:37:57]: plan to to really conceptualize because I don't that's the rub that I need to see on this presentation today. [0:37:58, 0:38:18]: Yeah. So the conceptual purposes, we're saying that if we replace twenty-two vehicles, that's gonna reduce your maintenance cost from one hundred twenty-six thousand to one hundred and ten thousand. And that's simply because the those older vehicles, you're paying right now twenty-five cents per mile to maintain those vehicles. Whereas by replacing those vehicles, now you're simply just doing oil changes on those vehicles. [0:38:18, 0:38:31]: vehicle. So it would have to be like you said, we would have to get vehicle per vehicle and really see exactly what you guys are paying per vehicle. So we won't have to do the tires like we still have to do now. We're only doing oil changes. This plan will eliminate us [0:38:31, 0:38:33]: Flat tires, it eliminates [0:38:33, 0:38:53]: Uh belt it'll eliminate all of our maintenance. I can't say about flat tires, but here uh'cause I can't control a flat tire if you get a flat tire. That's what I was asking. Okay. But what it this will prevent is because on your public works vehicles, we're es estimating those vehicles do nine thousand thine thousand miles a year. We have those vehicles right now proposed. [0:38:53, 0:39:04]: So that's thirty six thousand miles. You don't need new tires at thirty six thousand miles. So that answers your question, that just eliminated you from uh replacing mileages. What's that say it again? [0:39:05, 0:39:25]: It's hiring a driver. Well, you're right, you're right. But um yes, so by replacing that vehicle, you are now restricted just paying your oil changes and your preventative maintenance. Also, with this, your outside of your pursuit vehicles, just the vehicles that are not in pursuit, those vehicles are on a [0:39:25, 0:39:45]: plan to where they're to set fix fixed cost for the life of the vehicle. I mean up to a hundred thousand miles. So that cost is already including your oil changes, any preventative maintenance, non preventative maintenance, all of that is all calculated into this cost already. So what this allows your drivers to do is simply drive the vehicle and when they take the vehicle to the dealership or they take the vehicle to [0:39:44, 0:39:48]: [2388.9, 2408.9]: Saying what they need done to the vehicle. Our team is handling all the maintenance. So we have a National Service Department that oversees this maintenance program that will communicate back and forth with these shops, letting them know what needs to be done on the vehicle. Today, if you guys take a vehicle to a dealership to get an oil change, it's a very high chance you go and get an oil change and get an avant care cabin air filter as well. [0:40:08, 0:40:28]: Well, maybe some other things. Well, our team is going to make sure that, well, hey, this vehicle only has thirty thousand miles on it. Why would we be replacing cabinet air filter right now? That's where you're going to start seeing savings because at that at this point, no one's really monitoring the maintenance that's being done. We're simply taking the vehicles to a repair location, we're asking for a service to be done, and we're putting our faith into this shop that we're getting the vehicles. [0:40:28, 0:40:30]: vehic the right things done to the vehicle. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: Should be. Right. [0:40:34, 0:40:35]: Any other questions for the council? [0:40:36, 0:40:56]: Well, the E V doesn't have a oil change. Right. Right or any of those auxiliary things. Doesn't even have a transmission, I understand. So those things so the I guess uh the savings would be a little bit more in terms of that'cause there's not those uh initial costs built into that. And then again, uh any vehicle might [0:40:56, 0:41:08]: most vehicles I guess uh whether it's uh no matter what it is would be still up under warranty up at that point up until forty thousand thirty six thousand forty thousand miles. Yes. Yes. All right, thank you. [0:41:09, 0:41:11]: Once again another question from the council. [0:41:12, 0:41:13]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:41:15, 0:41:18]: Thank you, sir, for the presentation. Um [0:41:19, 0:41:33]: I I wanted to speak to the fuel cost saving and I guess we all understand that a well maintained car or a newer car [0:41:34, 0:41:42]: should get better knowledge. Now we know within the police department, um, and I know we have some officers here. [0:41:43, 0:41:48]: Those cars run all the time. I I don't know within a day's time. [0:41:49, 0:41:51]: I don't know when a police car is turned off. [0:41:52, 0:41:54]: And so we know that uh [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: Consumption is hard. [0:41:57, 0:41:59]: Um so [0:41:59, 0:42:00]: And [0:42:00, 0:42:04]: And I I guess I want to get to your study, but I guess we can all assume [0:42:05, 0:42:08]: as kids growing up tinkering with cars and [0:42:09, 0:42:12]: And the consumption of gas and I guess it's it's a given. [0:42:13, 0:42:18]: that a well maintained car is going to burn less gas. [0:42:20, 0:42:22]: Is i I mean w when you say here that [0:42:23, 0:42:28]: As a result of this program, uh the city of Stockbridge will will reduce [0:42:29, 0:42:31]: Fruit cost by seventy two percent. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: So I'm assuming and you can correct me if I'm right or wrong, but [0:42:35, 0:42:45]: Uh, I'm assuming that because of these cars are well maintained and we're s switching them out before they actually the age wise, that these cars are going to operate. [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: more efficient. [0:42:48, 0:42:49]: Thereby [0:42:49, 0:42:51]: Uh consuming [0:42:51, 0:42:52]: Less fuel. [0:42:54, 0:43:13]: That's correct. So newer vehicles every year uh man vehicle manufacturers by Cafe are required to improve their fuel economy miles per gallon every year. So if we're comparing a two thousand twenty four to a two thousand twenty, it can be the same vehicle, but the two thousand twenty four is gonna receive better fuel economy than the two thousand twenty. That's just off [0:43:13, 0:43:16]: Right, and and that's important for me. Um [0:43:17, 0:43:30]: We we we really haven't had this discussion with the Stybridge Police Department, but I just know that in these offices and we won't get into that now, but um I don't know when cars are turned off. [0:43:31, 0:43:32]: Um and I'm sure that [0:43:33, 0:43:37]: From a budgetary standpoint in the city of Stargrid. [0:43:38, 0:43:39]: Gas consumption. [0:43:40, 0:43:41]: Is really hard. [0:43:41, 0:43:45]: And so anything that we could do as a savings [0:43:46, 0:43:48]: Even in that regard, I think [0:43:48, 0:43:54]: that's really impactful uh f for the city if this program [0:43:55, 0:43:57]: Impact jest dat alone. [0:43:57, 0:44:04]: That's gonna be a big saving right there, just in fuel consumption. And I don't know if anybody sort of [0:44:05, 0:44:20]: dealt deep into that. And and the question that I'm going to ask later, and we just had a budget retreat, but the question that I'm going to ask later about um the police department, I like to just know those numbers. [0:44:20, 0:44:24]: as far as gas consumption presently with the police department. [0:44:25, 0:44:26]: And and I'm assuming that [0:44:27, 0:44:29]: In this program [0:44:29, 0:44:33]: that sit of Styber will have a tremendous saving. [0:44:34, 0:44:37]: Simply because we are the cause of better maintained. [0:44:38, 0:44:39]: Which was sort of [0:44:40, 0:44:42]: impact the gas consumption [0:44:43, 0:44:48]: uh in the city and I'm just curious since you mentioned that here, I'm just curious as to [0:44:48, 0:44:56]: what that actual saving actually look like in real dollars. But I I'll get into the police department with that. Thank you, sir. [0:44:57, 0:44:58]: What's again another question for the council? [0:44:59, 0:45:14]: All right, so this was a discussion, so a discussion process in this aspect to give us information and I guess food for thought. And uh I'd imagine we'll have further discussions internally on how we wanna proceed. Okay. All right, thank you. Thank you, sir, for your time and effort. [0:45:15, 0:45:35]: Consent agenda. Uh Council Consideration approved the third renewal of the City of Stockbridge on call sidewalk replacement and repairs contract number two zero two one-eight with DAF concrete incorporated amount of three hundred thousand oh excuse me at$300,000. The funding source is from SPLOSS and Department Budgeted Funds. [0:45:35, 0:45:42]: And so it's a consent agenda. I didn't know whether or not uh Mr. Aaron and anybody else needed to add anything to this or not. [0:45:43, 0:46:03]: And if not, um Mayor Farrell I do have a question though. All right, what's your question? And I don't know if this is gonna make it move from the consent, but I noticed that from the 2022 contract award, the amount was 250,000 and I know this renewal is for 300,000. [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: [2764.7, 2766.6]: So I just wanted to know why the difference. [0:46:11, 0:46:12]: I'm sorry. [0:46:13, 0:46:15]: It'd have to come off the consent agenda and have further discussion. [0:46:17, 0:46:23]: All right. So on that note, Council, I need a motion to take it off the consent agenda so we can have a discussion about this. So moved. Is there a second? [0:46:24, 0:46:32]: Second. Mr Mr. Alzheimer's second. All in favor, please indicate? Unanimous decision. Okay. What's off the consent agenda, Mr. Heron, please. [0:46:32, 0:46:51]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. And one of the reason wh the reason why we increased it was to account for the annexed areas into the city. The previous two hundred and fifty thousand dollars was just based on the original city limits of stock bridge. But since we increased the city limits, we had to increase the the sidewalk repair contract. [0:46:53, 0:47:12]: Let me answer a question. So y I sent you the message about the median on uh Hudson Bridge. That sidewalk is buckled right there. So that'll be right in right in this wheelhouse right here, right? Yes, sir. We are developing our current list of repair projects. Falcon is doing that for so we'll have something ready for DAF to go in the next couple of weeks. [0:47:12, 0:47:25]: Thank you. Any other questions? All right, then I need a motion to accept this proposal. Okay, well Miss Barber is a second. Second. Mr. Hells has a second. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you, Ms. Aaron. [0:47:25, 0:47:33]: Thank you, sir. Okay, what we have next, of course, is we added to the agenda a budget amendment involving the amphitheater. Mr. Harold Young, our general manager, sir. You're up. [0:47:36, 0:47:46]: Or the finance department, whatever you're gonna tag team this, I guess. And I believe what it is, uh ladies and gentlemen, counsel you have information in a folder in front of you and involving this presentation. [0:47:53, 0:48:13]: Hello. Can y'all hear me? Is it into the mic, please? Okay. So Mr. Young and I have come before you guys to present a budget adjustment or budget transfer for the amount of five hundred thousand dollars, which is going to cover the cost of some of the remaining shows. We had to reschedule Charlie Wilson and Monica. [0:48:13, 0:48:18]: and company due to weather and there's been a no. [0:48:19, 0:48:27]: And asked to reschedule those shows. So we're just looking to get some additional funds that will cover the expenses of those shows. [0:48:27, 0:48:38]: And you I I think the original comment said for five hundred thousand dollars? Yes, sir. Okay. All right. A council any questions thus far? You wanna add anything? Miss Barber, go ahead please. [0:48:39, 0:48:40]: Okay, this is um [0:48:42, 0:48:47]: So you you mentioned that a concert was rescheduled. [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: Yes, ma'am. [0:48:49, 0:48:52]: This is to pay for the rescheduled show. [0:48:53, 0:48:55]: So going forward [0:48:55, 0:48:57]: We will negotiate those terms. [0:48:58, 0:49:00]: regarding rescheduling. [0:49:00, 0:49:04]: For those force of nature kind of issues. [0:49:07, 0:49:15]: Ma may I state that there's actually two concerts that had were rained out that had to be rescheduled. Not one but two. So my c my question again is [0:49:15, 0:49:16]: Going forward. [0:49:16, 0:49:17]: You'll be [0:49:18, 0:49:19]: Negotiating. [0:49:19, 0:49:21]: Those terms. [0:49:21, 0:49:23]: In the event there are [0:49:24, 0:49:29]: issues with nature and whatever else that is beyond our control. [0:49:29, 0:49:43]: That is correct. Um so as you understand that these uh even the rescheduled concerts have been renegotiated. Uh so all of them are not p what that means is we're not paying all of the fees. [0:49:43, 0:49:46]: for one one of the shows. [0:49:46, 0:49:48]: Just a percentage amount of what they're asking. [0:49:49, 0:50:07]: So and then we actually for the Charlie Wilson show we actually had to add another artist on that show as opposed it was Robin Thick, which we're not bringing back. We're bringing Eric Bennet, which is a lot lower in cost. Eric Dabar, excuse me. El Dabar, excuse me. Eric Bennet, Jesus. [0:50:07, 0:50:12]: In terms of the language that we discussed regarding acts of nature. [0:50:13, 0:50:16]: Yes. Yes. Going forward. Yes, that's correct. [0:50:17, 0:50:24]: will make sure that that issue is addressed before we sign any writer agreements. [0:50:24, 0:50:25]: Yes. [0:50:25, 0:50:26]: Thank you, Samuel. [0:50:28, 0:50:31]: Any other questions for uh our general manager and our treasurer? [0:50:31, 0:50:33]: Mayor Ford. Yes sir. Um [0:50:35, 0:50:39]: Mr. Young, uh Ms. Gaines, thank you all. Um [0:50:39, 0:50:59]: I just wanted to confirm and and I remember reading somewhere where it did state that the funding source for the budget amendment that once these concerts are over, those funds would be uh what's the word? Um [0:50:59, 0:51:13]: um place back in allocated back in funded back in. And I just wanted just that to be known that, you know, those funds will actually go back to the original funding source. That is correct. Thank you. [0:51:15, 0:51:29]: Mm-hmm. Okay, if if no other no other questions then a motion to accept this I I haven't go ahead, please. Um Mr. Young, is that the total amount I'm looking at the difference in the amount here. Is that the total amount that's needed? [0:51:30, 0:51:30]: Is that the [0:51:31, 0:51:38]: Five hundred thousand for the budget amendment or how for now to get those concerts up and running for now, yes. [0:51:39, 0:51:43]: Is that in addition to the Lele concert? [0:51:44, 0:51:45]: That is correct. [0:51:45, 0:51:56]: Okay. And so the breakdown right now plus the additional property sale revenue is that going to [0:51:57, 0:51:58]: Is that what we're showing? [0:51:59, 0:52:03]: That's gonna be the totality of what we're we're needing. So you're saying for now. [0:52:04, 0:52:05]: But my concern is [0:52:06, 0:52:12]: What th are you thinking that you'll have to come back again this year for another amendment, or is it something that we need to look into? [0:52:12, 0:52:31]: I hope not, but based on where we are financially, speaking to the uh interim treasurer, that's what I can we can maneuver five hundred thousand. So for now, that's what Okay. Um yes. All right, thank you. No further questions for me. [0:52:31, 0:52:40]: All right, so no further questions in the motion to accept this proposal, please. So move. So Mr. Alexander, second, Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. [0:52:40, 0:52:44]: It's announced decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you all. [0:52:46, 0:53:06]: Okay, so now we have new business. Uh council consideration to approve the fourth renewal option. RFP request for proposal 20 excuse me 2015-02. Sanitation Collection Service Contract with Waste Industries South Atlanta LLC GFL environment [0:53:06, 0:53:26]: Environmental formerly waste industries is amount to one million eight hundred thousand dollars funding source sanitation department budget. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. Public Works is coming before you tonight to ask you to approve the renewal of the sanitation collection contract with GFL. They've been a good partner with the city. They're currently through June. [0:53:26, 0:53:46]: Of 2024 have a 99.75% collection efficiency. And also they're very instrumental in the smooth transition of adding the annexed residents onto the city sanitation services. So we're asking that you approve the fourth renewal. The the prices we're currently receiving right now. [0:53:46, 0:54:06]: are very good. We're residents paying$22 a month. And uh we went out and looked at other surrounding cities and see what their sanitation services are and costs. It's included in your package. And the most comparable to us was Forest Park and they charge$26.81 per month. [0:54:06, 0:54:20]: And then the next was like the city of Noonan, which is$33.34 per month. And also the city of McDonald just recently awarded a contract to Republic and they're paying$24.64 per month. [0:54:20, 0:54:35]: But you have to make an appointment to get yard waste picked up with them and you also have to drop your bulk waste off, they don't pick it up. So I think we're getting a good deal with what we're getting with GfL and we're just asking that you'll renew the contract for the fourth term. [0:54:36, 0:54:56]: Questions, counsel. Uh Ms. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Uh Mr. Aaron, thank you so much. I I just missed that tail in about bulk pickup. Would you just repeat that? I said with like the city of McDonald, if their residents have bulk waste to get rid of, they have to take it to the collection center themselves versus the uh vendor coming by their [0:54:56, 0:55:16]: residents to pick it up. Just just c make reservation. They have to take it themselves. I'm talking about stock bridge. Yeah and stock bridge, yes sir. If you have boatways pick up you have to schedule it 24 hours before your day of collection and you can put out up to three items per week. And and and the reason I want to mention that because it it appears that a lot of [0:55:16, 0:55:36]: Of homeowners, property owners don't know that because as you know, we have a lot of uh illegal dumping throughout the city. And I always wondered why we had so much illegal dumping when all you had to do was just call and make an appointment to have it pick it up at your residence. You can do it online as well. [0:55:36, 0:55:56]: Well, but at the beginning of every year, GFL sends out a reminder about the processes for scheduling bulk waste or excess yard waste, and that goes to every sanitation customer. So whether they read it or not, that's that's a different story. And if you will, if in your presentation, just emphasize to the folks that are watching and listening. [0:55:56, 0:56:09]: about the, you know, the mattresses, the old furniture and things like that, because these are the items that we see in the illegal dumping. And I think we just need to emphasize that you don't have to illegal dump this. [0:56:10, 0:56:30]: Just call and make a schedule for the for, you know, GFL to pick it up. That's important. We need to emphasize that. Yes. But one of the things I find I most people that are dumpling legally, they're not gonna call and schedule a pickup because they're saving money by not having to dispose of it legally. So that's why you find it in in areas like them up. [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: Out of town is in [0:56:33, 0:56:36]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [0:56:36, 0:56:45]: Um, I move that we approve the renewal of the RFP request of tw two oh one five oh eight sanitation collections to GFL. [0:56:46, 0:56:49]: Mr. Bar uh Mr. Berry, second down motion. [0:56:50, 0:56:54]: Excuse me. I have a question. Go write it, please. Uh Mr Erin. [0:56:56, 0:57:12]: So oh, that's FY twenty twenty five. Yes. Never mind. We haven't approved that. But there looks to be a three hundred and nineteen thousand dollar difference between this year and twenty twenty five. Why is that? [0:57:12, 0:57:23]: Because you're accounting for a hundred percent of the annexed residents, the annexed residents were given a year to sign up with the city that allowed them to uh end their contract with their previous provider. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: Thank you, sir. [0:57:25, 0:57:45]: Motion's been made by Miss Snap, second by Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. Nam's decision. Sir. Yes, sir. Out of abundance of caution, I'm gonna abstain from the vote. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Well stand by. Okay, so otherwise the motion is I'm once a 401. Mr. Alexander abstains from that. All right. [0:57:45, 0:57:49]: Thank you sir. Thank you, sir. Um Mr Mr. Gardner, sir. [0:57:54, 0:58:14]: If it please, may I just make like to make a quick um point of per privilege, if you mind me just interjecting in. Uh I wanted to introduce counsel to Mr. Tatum. Mr. Tatum is um one of our jazz musicians that came to us a few years ago as part at the amphitheater, but he's also a major hotel developer. Um and [0:58:14, 0:58:34]: And he has shown a lot of interest in doing a hotel project in the city of Stockbridge, somewhere along Highway 138, right down the street from the uh 138 pocket store, if you get my drift, and taking over that project that I know a lot of folks who had some. [0:58:34, 0:58:54]: issues with but he's been working with us and I wanted to introduce you to him because he's actually played here. He's a world-renowned jazz musician um and a very um entrepreneurial uh young man that used to reside here in Henry County a few years ago. Um but I wanted to introduce you guys to him so if you see him moving around you know [0:58:53, 0:58:56]: probably see him at our next jazz concert. Um [0:58:57, 0:59:01]: But he's played with the likes of Kenny G and the rest of those guys. So well known guy. [0:59:02, 0:59:17]: Thank Mayor Ford. Yeah, th thank you sir. Yes sir. Go ahead please. And and if I may, he he joined us at the volunteer galer a couple of years ago. He was one of the uh acts there as well. So we we know each other pretty well. [0:59:18, 0:59:38]: Abstand. Oh thank you, Mr. Mr. Tatum. Thank you for being here. All right. Okay. All right. So uh next item, council consideration to approve the East Atlanta Road, Lee Street Roads Roadway. Improvement change order number three. We submit construction for additional work included in the supplemental. [0:59:38, 0:59:52]: plan set lee street improvements, all related infrastructure and pedestrian improvements to Bryant Street and along the amphitheater uh entrance roadway in amount of$145,583.97. [0:59:53, 1:00:13]: Funding sources plus. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. This is for the change order for the uh sidewalk from the amphitheater road down to Bryant Street, as well as putting in the retaining wall and and the fencing along that area. So this completes this project and it finalizes the cost for the uh [1:00:13, 1:00:16]: East Atlanta Road Lee Street Improvement Project. [1:00:17, 1:00:29]: Uh so move, Mayor. Go go right, please. So move. Oh okay. Well um I'd like to make a motion to approve to the motion. Well she gotta make the motion. [1:00:30, 1:00:30]: Um [1:00:31, 1:00:39]: Is uh is there a second to the motion? Miss I got Mr. Barrett second that motion. Okay, there I guess no discussion. Okay, hold on. [1:00:40, 1:00:45]: So did I make a motion? Well you said so moved. Did you wanna do you have a question? No. [1:00:46, 1:00:46]: That's it. [1:00:47, 1:01:00]: Okay, for what I got d you made the motion. Yeah. It's made b to accept this. Mr. Berry s uh uh uh second that. Okay. If there's no other discussion, all in favor please indicate. See now it's decision. Okay. Thank you, sir. No problem. [1:01:02, 1:01:22]: All right, what we have next is uh council consideration to amend an ordinance. Uh section 5.13.040 to add D. Owner shall be authorized to sell unused plots to the city of Stockbridge at the original purchase price. Authorize the city clerk to record the transfer of unused plots. [1:01:22, 1:01:26]: Plots from the owner of to the city stop race. Miss Holliday, please. [1:01:26, 1:01:38]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. This is exactly that an ordinance to allow for the city clerk to receive property that wants to be uh returned back to the city for those plots that are unused. [1:01:39, 1:01:40]: That's it. [1:01:40, 1:01:54]: Okay. Mayor. Yes, yes, ma'am. I move that we approve this um authorization for the city clerk to receive the transfer of unused plots back to the city of Stockbridge. Sir. Okay for Miss Gantt to Mr. Alzheimer's all in favor, please indicate. [1:01:54, 1:01:56]: She announced the decision, thank you very much. [1:01:59, 1:02:08]: What's next council of consideration to fill a vacancy and appoint member uh to the public facilities authority board for a four year term. Mr. Washington, please. [1:02:21, 1:02:31]: Maybe Council, we have good evening, we have three applications for [1:02:33, 1:02:34]: Four [1:02:52, 1:02:55]: I only have one application. There's only one application I see as well. [1:02:56, 1:03:01]: L let me ask a question before you do this. Are we not appointing them by district at this point or no? [1:03:03, 1:03:06]: I won't say I don't I don't know anything about about districts. [1:03:09, 1:03:11]: Eight and nine are two different things. [1:03:13, 1:03:17]: I only have I only have one for the PFA in mind. That's correct. [1:03:18, 1:03:20]: One Ms. Thomas for the PFA. [1:03:25, 1:03:29]: And the other one for the youth council advisory committee is only one for that. [1:03:31, 1:03:38]: Oh, there's one for okay. Oh'cause I got a note on there that said it was three for one and there are three big [1:03:40, 1:03:50]: There are three vacancies on the PFA, one applicant. There is one vacancy on the youth council, one applicant. Thank you, ma'am. [1:03:50, 1:03:51]: Yeah. [1:03:52, 1:03:58]: Go ready, please. Is there um not a residency requirement for the boards? [1:04:05, 1:04:15]: Youth Council Advisory amended their ordinance several years ago where they allow for Henry County residents to participate on that board. [1:04:16, 1:04:20]: And the PFA is a city resident. [1:04:21, 1:04:27]: So it doesn't matter how long they've been a resident. No, there there's no [1:04:29, 1:04:29]: Okay. [1:04:32, 1:04:38]: I do have a question too. Go right here, please. Um Councilman Alexander had mentioned the same we had talked about [1:04:39, 1:04:43]: point at some point we have to come to a stop where we're able to appoint [1:04:44, 1:04:45]: From each district. [1:04:47, 1:04:53]: A representative. I know there may be several seats we can do at large, but we also want it to [1:04:53, 1:05:12]: be able to appoint a representative of each district so that we wouldn't have um members of the boards in one particular area and not another, so that we made sure that we had everyone represented. Um what where are we with that and what are we doing about that? [1:05:12, 1:05:15]: Well, we have to iron that out because the D D A [1:05:16, 1:05:18]: has certain criteria. [1:05:18, 1:05:25]: where their business has to be or they have to live. So that with them being in a downtown, [1:05:26, 1:05:28]: I don't believe you can [1:05:28, 1:05:29]: do that with that board. [1:05:29, 1:05:36]: Um with the um the development authority and the DEA are exceptions to the rule. Those are guidelines. [1:05:37, 1:05:53]: by the Georgia regulations on particular members. Along with the C D A. Along with the C has criteria. With the planning those that don't have the criteria. The youth council, the the facilities authority, whatever does not have those criteria does you have specific [1:05:53, 1:06:03]: jurisdictions or specific that you don't have to have specific people then we should be able to appoint by districts. How are we gonna handle that? [1:06:03, 1:06:06]: So the own the one that's the one that's currently [1:06:07, 1:06:27]: One hundred percent by district is the planning commission. You have a member from each district when someone rolled off the last time we were able to place someone from each district there and then we have one position that is the mayor's at large. So that's the only one that we've been able to roll off and do at this point. Um [1:06:27, 1:06:29]: But with Main Street [1:06:30, 1:06:36]: And you know, we've spoken about your C D A and your D D A. Let me ask a question. You said the planning commission we have that already? [1:06:36, 1:06:40]: The planning commission has a member re representative from each district currently. [1:06:42, 1:06:46]: Uh your district is Mr. Doomas, if I'm not mistaken, Stanley Doumas. Okay. [1:06:48, 1:06:55]: Mr. Azan, you say has some? Yeah, on the C D on the City Wide Development Authority we have, what, nine members now? [1:06:55, 1:07:15]: You have seven? But I'm telling you we we have up the number. That's correct, and they're vacant. You have two vacant seats right now. Right. So in essence what we could do is to start it w with nine positions, five of them could be I mean, I guess a number of them could be by district. However, some of your members are [1:07:15, 1:07:18]: county, so they're not in the a district. [1:07:18, 1:07:19]: Okay. [1:07:19, 1:07:39]: And that's so it's that's why it's not been easy to Okay, I understand. But I guess we'd have to graph ordinances saying that council members got an appointment for these positions from their district if the board would allow for that. If the board would allow for them. And as they roll off, where i it's easier to do it once someone rolls off than when [1:07:39, 1:07:52]: We can we would have to just do an ordinance. We just have to look at it and see about an ordinance that would encompass the appointment authority per district based upon the board so that would be an eligible fee. [1:07:53, 1:08:13]: Right. My second question would my question to Mayor Felsen Go ahead please. Is that if if even if we are district representatives, does the person have to live in the district? Now with the like the city the the the citywide development authority, we have some county members on there, right? Even though on that particular board where it is as is [1:08:13, 1:08:20]: that we could appoint members who were not uh that didn't live in the district per se. But we would have an appointee. [1:08:20, 1:08:38]: Right, I guess that's what I guess that's what we're going to, you know, if this you all consensus that's what we'll look at is what boards and what it would look like for you all's appointments based on when they roll off and what the competition will look like, also including um an appointment for the mayor as well. [1:08:38, 1:08:39]: Okay. [1:08:40, 1:08:42]: All right. Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:08:42, 1:08:48]: Uh we're not put this in a motion but just a recommendation. It is it appears that [1:08:48, 1:08:50]: Each board [1:08:51, 1:08:53]: The composition and the requirements are different. [1:08:55, 1:08:57]: It seems that we should take [1:08:57, 1:09:00]: Each board individually. [1:09:00, 1:09:20]: and create the makeup and how we appoint board by board because as Ms. Holliday indicated, um you just c the the requirements for one board won't fit the other board. But if you take them board by board [1:09:20, 1:09:40]: And set those requirements, then it's it's I think it's easier that way. And uh, you know, and we just had to come back and just do that. Yeah, we just need it what I would do is I'll just work with the clerk's office to get a list of all the boards and then we can look through what that would look like to be able to present to you all at a later date. And and and if it's okay with with the council if you [1:09:40, 1:10:00]: You mark up uh a draft of what y between you and the clerk what it will require for each board, and then you can bring that back to the council and we can say yay or nay.'Cause like you say, now I know with the um like I said the planning and I believe it's that way with the uh police advisory board. [1:10:00, 1:10:14]: That's someone from each district. But each board I think is just different. And I just think it'll be much easier if we just looked at this board by board. Yep. And create that own individual uh requirement. So think right now there are how many boards? [1:10:16, 1:10:17]: Yeah. [1:10:18, 1:10:38]: Ten. How much time do you think you need? Thirty days, forty five days? What do you need? Forty five days. Thirty to forty five. Okay, so if you're saying forty five days, that'll make it uh the We never in October. Um right. That's that's what it makes it it'll make the October uh board uh council meeting. All right. Yes, sir. But now even though we [1:10:38, 1:10:45]: We have this on this agenda tonight. We still gotta vote on this. Yes. We still have to vote on this. Yes, I know. We still gotta vote on it. [1:10:47, 1:11:02]: So what what you what you have here is uh uh but you got one individual uh for the public facilities. I believe uh what uh clerks mentioned is that the three vacancies but only one individual before us now and that's a Tohisha. If I got Thomas? [1:11:03, 1:11:07]: Tossed or Thomas or whatever how you pronounce it? Tosica. Tossica. [1:11:08, 1:11:28]: Uh so let me ask you this, Clint, before you sit down. And this is what I would like to see, and I think we discussed this at the last one, and certainly because we gotta do these in public, in addition to just this basic form, just to require a resume or something so we can kinda understand what does this. [1:11:28, 1:11:40]: person have the qualifications for the board because in the end we we just can't keep appointing people who don't have the skills for what we need to execute on these boards. I'm not interested in that. [1:11:40, 1:12:00]: I agree. Um, Mayor. Yeah, go ahead please. I I agree. I'm I and Madam Clerk, uh unless they have a resume from now on, I'm not in agreement in appointing anybody else. Like, I don't think it's I don't think it I mean we don't know we used at some point we used to interview people and [1:12:00, 1:12:10]: and bring people on board. But I r would much rather us have our policy in place on who we need to appoint district wise. Oh number one. [1:12:10, 1:12:22]: And number two, maybe give them a opportunity to submit their resume. I s you know, I I see that they've been here for three years. And I and my concern is is though we're talking about people [1:12:23, 1:12:40]: kinda like their employees to a certain degree and we're out in the public. That's another thing. That's another reason why we used to go in executive session to discuss certain things. So um I um I just think that um [1:12:43, 1:13:03]: I th I just think that we should um yeah requ table this and uh right now until we get everything in order in regards to our districts and in regards to resumes of something attached. Or application process. And yeah, we need a we need a better application process right now. I mean it's [1:13:03, 1:13:06]: Incomplete as far as I'm concerned. From now on. [1:13:06, 1:13:08]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [1:13:08, 1:13:14]: Uh I'd like to make a motion that for each I'm sorry, Miss Gantt. [1:13:14, 1:13:21]: No, I made a motion already to table. She motioned to table. Oh. Table. Question Mayor. Yes, yes, yes. Go ahead, please. [1:13:23, 1:13:25]: Questi what's the question? [1:13:25, 1:13:29]: Well you you you said you had a question. So the um [1:13:30, 1:13:32]: Members that are currently there. [1:13:34, 1:13:35]: May not [1:13:35, 1:13:39]: Or bank we may have people in the same district. What [1:13:41, 1:13:55]: Well th I think they're already I think there are you probably have to let let it ride out to the finish their expiration date or if they happen to resign, you gotta finish that out. You can't just take them out place. I don't think you can do that. Right. I would be well, I don't think it'd be proper to do that. You have to let'em finish them out their your their term. [1:13:57, 1:13:58]: That's what I would think. That's my thoughts anyway. [1:13:59, 1:14:09]: And that's why I wanna table this so that we can put it on to actually discuss a process. Maybe we need for someone to test someone with a process in the way we handle [1:14:09, 1:14:10]: Appointments in the future. [1:14:11, 1:14:12]: In addition to [1:14:12, 1:14:32]: the our policies in place because I believe that this application um doesn't give us enough information. And so we need to have a strict policy on the way that needs to take place. And I think that each council member can probably email their desires and wishes for that. And our our our our attorney [1:14:32, 1:14:39]: Or whomever's gonna draft it can draft up a suggestion on the way we handle things in the future. [1:14:40, 1:15:00]: Okay, so that's uh you made a motion. Now uh mister um excuse me, Miss uh Holiday, you did you get all that? Yes. Okay. All right, so that that we'll do this is gonna be for number eight, then we'll do a separate one for number nine as well. Okay. For number this is number eight. So motion been made by Miss Gantt, say by Mr. Alzheimer's. Is there a second I'm excuse me? [1:15:00, 1:15:02]: All in favor, please indicate. [1:15:02, 1:15:06]: Dis discussion. Oh okay. Excuse me. Discussion. What's your discussion, sir? [1:15:06, 1:15:07]: Uh [1:15:08, 1:15:28]: I I'm in agreement with everything that's being said. And I just think that we've already tasked the attorneys to do certain things. Can we just sort of add this to that and bring all of this back at one time and we can sort of just conclude this? But I'm in agreement that every [1:15:28, 1:15:38]: application should uh contain a resume. And if we can just go ahead and test the attorney to do all of this and just bring it back. I mean it just [1:15:38, 1:15:58]: Well yeah. Well it was w the motion was already made and seconded. That's why I asked Miss uh Miss Holliday uh to read back the motion, make sure it's straight. I don't what you're stalking about it's a good recommendation, Mr. Thomas, but I don't think we add it to the motion unless the original individual I would ask that Mrs. Gann do that because I think it's sort of cut to the chase and we can save some time if [1:15:58, 1:16:12]: If if if the directive and if the assignment is to do A and B, then at the end of this meeting, the attorney will know that he's going to work on A and B and bring A and B back to the council. [1:16:13, 1:16:23]: Ma'am. Yes ma'am. So j uh just for the record, uh page three of the application does request that they but it is not mandated. So the the council's [1:16:23, 1:16:43]: will is to have that that be mandated because it is shown right now on page three. Yeah, please start your resume of qualification. Yes. So um I'm make I made a motion. I asked well I actually made it I s discussed and said I believe that it should be a part of the policy and that we're gonna table this so that the [1:16:43, 1:16:44]: The attorney [1:16:45, 1:16:50]: can come up with the policies and procedures which includes [1:16:50, 1:17:03]: um redrafting our application and the process of the way things are required to include the resume. I mentioned the resume because that was my number one concern. Like I know that it's May [1:17:04, 1:17:24]: But we have some other things in there as well, such as term, like um years of how long have you been here? We're required to be here at least a year before you run for office. So you have to look at certain things um and then look at our districts. Which ones can we have with districts? So I've [1:17:23, 1:17:28]: I've made the motion and I agree. I mean, if ca if that can clarify [1:17:28, 1:17:33]: and help councilman Thomas, my motion is that we table this so that our attorney [1:17:34, 1:17:46]: can get together a policy and procedure for us to and some options for us to vote on in order to start appointing different committees and boards. [1:17:47, 1:17:53]: Once again a second from from Mr. Alexander. Any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. [1:17:54, 1:18:10]: Genamus decision. Now that was for number eight. I'd like to do the same thing for number nine. So what uh let me just hold on one second, let me just read it. Council consideration to fill a vacancy and appoint a member to the youth council advisory committee to fill an unspired term. And that says presented by Miss Washington. Now what is the motion, please? [1:18:12, 1:18:22]: I'd like to make a motion to table agenda item number nine until our attorney can come up with policies and procedures [1:18:22, 1:18:42]: Um and and bring them back to Mayor and Council in a way to appoint um different boards and committees. So second to the motion. Mr. Berry second. Any further discussion? All favor please indicate. So you now decision. Okay. Thank you very much. For announcements and upcoming meeting events. Uh [1:18:42, 1:19:02]: Council meetings will be held in Council City Council Chamber. Meeting dates, location, and times are subject to change, or contact City Hall Offices 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.starbridgega.org for updates. A community zoning and information meeting Wednesday, September 4th. [1:19:02, 1:19:22]: From six PM to seven PM of City Hall Council Chambers. 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[1:20:54, 1:21:14]: for the senior Bingo Bash on Wednesday, September 18th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon in Merrill Manor's Conference Center and 111 Davis Road for Raffles, prizes, games, snacks, and fun. Join me for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, September 23rd at 10 a.m. to noon in Starbury City Hall. The bridge [1:21:14, 1:21:34]: Bridge Fest 2024 is coming. The City of Stockbridge Government is hosting this annual event for the community on Saturday, September 28th. We'll have a live concert, food, trucks, vendors, and more. Get ready for the fun, Stockbridge Amphitheater. If you have any questions, please email bradley at Stockbridge G A dot or G as soon as possible for vendor opportunities. [1:21:34, 1:21:54]: Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative centered around in education, highlighting the causes and effects of littering, illegal dumping, and more information to follow. Also join Councilman Thomas for honoring veterans and a continuous salute to all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans with their name, branch, rank, and years of service. [1:21:54, 1:22:14]: And contact Roslin Rawls' schedule appointment to meet the mayor. For more information on council initiatives and events, call Roslin at 678-833-3348 or email ralls at Stockbridgega.org. The 2024 Stockbridge Amphitheater Concert Series, Saturday, September 14th, of course is our third-year anniversary. [1:22:14, 1:22:34]: We cool in the gang and special guest more stay in the time. Saturday, October 5th, featuring Monica and Tame Arms rescheduled concert due to rain out. Saturday, uh October 12th, featuring that girl Lele Youth Concert, our very first youth concert that we had at an amphitheater. It's going to be fantastic. Bring out the young [1:22:34, 1:22:54]: Young folks for that one. Sunday, October 13th, right behind that youth concert will be the Kings and Queens of Southern Soul Show, featuring King George, Tucker, Sir Charles Jones, Pokey Bear, TK Soul, West Love, and Derek the Changed Man Smith. I'm pretty sure that'll be a sold-out show as well. Sunday, October 13th. [1:22:54, 1:23:14]: 20th, 2024, of course, a rescheduled show featuring Charlie Wilson and special guest this time, El DeBarge. In our very last concert of our 2024 season is Saturday, October 23rd. Excuse me, October 26th. Bony James Slow Burn Tour with special guest Damien Escobar. The uh for your jazz lovers, come on. [1:23:14, 1:23:34]: out for that one, right? Stockbridge Main Street Tiny Tent Concert Series. Friday's weather permitting. Uh the show will be start at 6 p.m. and then will end at 8 p.m. The show will take place on 130 MLK Senior Heritage Trail in the Stockbridge, of course, downtown. Enjoy good music. Local restaurants will be open for your community. [1:23:34, 1:23:54]: And uh make sure you have a uh bring a family, bring the family and make sure you uh you bring the long chair for that. And my comments are simply this um uh back to school. Everybody's back, the kids are back to school now, all levels, from college all the way to elementary school. So uh be keep them in. [1:23:54, 1:24:14]: Of course, we're going to end our summer here shortly. Labor Day weekend is coming. And so hopefully you've had a great summer and ready for a wonderful fall. And mentioning fall is football season. So folks, get your football on, right? At all levels, high school, college, as well as pros. [1:24:14, 1:24:34]: And uh what I received, I want to let you know that I received three thank you letters that came to me. I received these thank you letters for the legends of the LPGA. These are the women golfers that were here at the Eagles Land Country Club about five weeks ago. We honored them with a uh proclamation, spent some time with them, and they said [1:24:34, 1:24:35]: Sent me some thank you cards. [1:24:36, 1:24:41]: And they said they had a wonderful time and one two. Okay, and they look for they look forward to c look forward to coming back. [1:24:41, 1:25:00]: The Eagles Land Country Club. So I want to mention that to you. They love what was happening here. On that note, ladies and gentlemen, uh council, we need to have a second session uh talking about personnel, you know, and and legal as or um real estate uh type issues. I need a motion to go to the executive session, please. So moved. Is there a second? [1:25:00, 1:25:02]: Mr. Alexander, secondly, all favor, please indicate. [1:25:03, 1:25:06]: We'll go into second session. Thank you. Let's go. We'll be back, people. [1:25:23, 1:25:25]: Before I forget. [1:25:28, 1:25:41]: Well let's see if the person come forward. Did the master wear anybody in or they just filling out their classications? Which one? The last person. I don't know what you don't want. [1:25:41, 1:25:48]: I know. I'm just saying I'm not sure whether he has sworn the first did the person show up or he just [1:25:49, 1:25:54]: Yeah. But this is this is what we want. This is right. I I I don't like one thing. [2:00:15, 2:00:16]: Oh just okay. [2:00:17, 2:00:19]: And we'll be calling it. [2:00:19, 2:00:23]: [7224.5, 7230.4]: All right, Council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. So move from Mr. Alistair, who's second that? [2:00:31, 2:00:45]: I need second Ms. Ms. Gantt, second now. All in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Now I need a motion to uh reconvene our city council work session, please. So moved. Okay for Ms. Gantt. Mr. Berry, second down, all in favor, please indicate. [2:00:45, 2:01:05]: All right, and from the executive session, uh there is something that uh we need to present uh in reference to our discussion. Ms. Alexander, please. Yes, Mayor, thank you so much. I want to make a motion to improve the uh D D the D D A M O U for parking improvements uh on the Burke Street property um to move forward with uh [2:01:05, 2:01:09]: uh parking striping and various improvements on that lot. [2:01:09, 2:01:17]: I second. Okay. Uh you you you Ms. Gantt, you second that? Ms. Gantt second that. All favor, please indicate. Comment. [2:01:18, 2:01:22]: Oh okay, all fifth. Okay, four. Comment. Okay, please. [2:01:24, 2:01:28]: I don't know any more details than what [2:01:29, 2:01:30]: Councilman Alexander. [2:01:30, 2:01:31]: Just mentioned. [2:01:32, 2:01:34]: We don't have an invoice. [2:01:35, 2:01:35]: The cost [2:01:36, 2:01:37]: When the project will start. [2:01:38, 2:01:40]: How long it will take for them to complete it? [2:01:41, 2:01:42]: Nothing. [2:01:43, 2:01:44]: I support [2:01:45, 2:01:46]: The DA's efforts. [2:01:47, 2:01:48]: In repaving the parking lot. [2:01:49, 2:01:52]: I just don't know any more than what he just shared. [2:01:53, 2:02:13]: So I will abstain. All right. So okay. So most of the case. Let me let me say this originally. This was a city project originally, and the city manager came to the DDA to actually fund the project. Total cost seven, eight hundred dollars. It was actually spoken, they had scope of work and everything that was completed on this. The city manager [2:02:13, 2:02:27]: manager actually acting as economic development director made the presentation to the DDA board and the DDA board voted to ratify it. They're paying for it so we don't have to use city funds. That was the idea. [2:02:27, 2:02:42]: All right, so motion passed four zero one. All right. So it's it's passed. Now the emotion end our meeting, please. Mr. Berry, is a second? I second. Okay, Miss Gantt. I mean Miss Gantt second. All in favor, please indicate. Is that now Sister? Good night everybody. God bless you. [2:02:45, 2:02:46]: All right. [2:02:49, 2:02:49]: No.
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    --- title: Planning Commission date: 2024-08-15 source: 2024-08-15_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Nope. [0:01:05, 0:01:07]: Testing, testing. There we go. [0:01:09, 0:01:12]: Commissioners, I think we should test your mics to make sure it works. [0:01:14, 0:01:17]: What about now? All right. [0:01:27, 0:01:35]: Okay, is that better? What's a great meeting without technical difficulties, right? To start. All right. [0:01:37, 0:01:47]: Okay. Uh did we complete the roll call? I couldn't hear all of it. She needs to re repeat the roll call. Yes, if you would please. Please repeat the roll call, please. [0:01:47, 0:01:48]: Okay, Stanley Dumas. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: Not present. Anthony Mitten. [0:01:52, 0:01:53]: Present. [0:01:53, 0:02:01]: Harold Thibodeau? Present. David Planchon. Present. Jaden Williams? Present. Matthew Thomas. Present. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: Mr. Chairman, we have quorum. [0:02:04, 0:02:10]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. Uh next we'll go with the invocation. Mr. Thibodeau, could you lead us in prayer, please? [0:02:12, 0:02:13]: Let's buy all that. [0:02:13, 0:02:26]: Let's bow our head. God the Father through Jesus Christ, give us the opportunity and grant us the wisdom to go forward and say and do the right thing towards the citizens of Stockbridge. In Jesus' name, amen. [0:02:26, 0:02:27]: Amen. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Next the Pledge of Allegiance, if everyone stand, please. [0:02:34, 0:02:40]: The uh agenda for tonight. Take a couple of minutes to review it, please. [0:02:40, 0:02:50]: Uh Mr. Chairman, um number item number two, um we planning and zoning request to defer. We need to do some more research on the maps. [0:02:54, 0:02:55]: Okay, it's noted. [0:03:29, 0:03:29]: Chair. [0:03:31, 0:03:31]: Yes sir. [0:03:32, 0:03:37]: With the um notion to defer item number two, I make a motion that we approve tonight's agenda meeting. [0:03:38, 0:03:41]: Mr. Jaden approves. Can I have a second, please? Second. [0:03:41, 0:03:44]: Mr. Thompson seconds passes. [0:03:45, 0:03:50]: All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passes. Thank you. [0:03:52, 0:03:59]: All right, next we have the minutes from the last meeting of the eighteenth. [0:04:00, 0:04:03]: The vote as far as who made the motion, who seconded. [0:04:03, 0:04:07]: I'm sorry, Mr. Jaden made the motion. Mr. Thomas seconded. [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: Thank you. [0:04:09, 0:04:11]: The motion was approved. [0:04:15, 0:04:20]: Okay, I'd like the commission to review the approval of the minutes in the last meeting of july eighteenth, please. [0:04:56, 0:04:58]: Okay, so everyone had the opportunity to review? [0:05:02, 0:05:14]: May I have a motion to approve the summary minutes of the last meeting? Mr. Chairman, this is David Planchon. I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes from last meeting. Do I have a second? I second. Matthew Thomas. [0:05:17, 0:05:20]: All in favor? To approve? Aye. [0:05:23, 0:05:28]: All right folks, before we get started tonight, um very quickly [0:05:29, 0:05:33]: Just want to go over a few ground rules for the meeting, please. [0:05:34, 0:05:45]: So I do want to welcome everyone to the Planning Commission meeting. I'm Anthony Mitten. I'm the Vice Chairman of the Planning Commission. Uh the other members of the Planning Commission are Stanley Doumas, who's not here tonight. He's also the chairman. [0:05:46, 0:06:00]: Uh Harold Thibodeau, David Planchin, Jaden Williams, and Matthew Thomas. The staff members are Ryan Anderson, Community Development Director Meredith Garmin, City Zoning Attorney Keedra Jackson, Chief Planner, Linda Logan, Senior Planner, [0:06:01, 0:06:18]: uh Gordon Linton, who's also a planner. So there's a few protocols that we want to talk about for the meeting tonight. First off, we want to make sure that we keep our comments and presentations on a professional level. Uh wanna deal with the facts that are important for this commission to make its decision. We do not accept comments that are considered by [0:06:18, 0:06:22]: Uh, the chair to be a personal attack on any individual or group individuals. [0:06:23, 0:06:28]: You'll receive a warning from the chair if you deviate from this requirement. A second deviation will result in a request. [0:06:29, 0:06:31]: For you to leave the meeting and the premises for the evening. [0:06:32, 0:06:42]: Uh please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. Only one person will be talking at a time and all comments will be made at the podium after the speaker who's been recognized by the chair. [0:06:43, 0:06:48]: Please direct all comments to the chair and the commission, not to the audiencers of the staff. [0:06:49, 0:06:51]: Please do not apply to react to speakers. [0:06:51, 0:06:53]: Speak from the audience, Chair. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Carry on a conversation. [0:06:55, 0:06:58]: What chairs in the audience or disrupt the order of this meeting in any way? [0:06:59, 0:07:01]: Be aware that these hearings are not a debate. [0:07:01, 0:07:03]: Or an opportunity to ask questions. [0:07:03, 0:07:08]: Which must be answered by any individual tonight, but are merely an opportunity to present information to the commission. [0:07:09, 0:07:12]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once [0:07:13, 0:07:18]: The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last. [0:07:19, 0:07:27]: He may use the entire minutes allotted the allot the entire ten minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. Other than the applicant, no person may speak longer than five minutes. [0:07:29, 0:07:36]: If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, I ask that you either power them off or put them on silent mode. So if you haven't done so, please make sure you do that now. [0:07:38, 0:07:53]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight, please fill out a form available on the table up front and hand it to the staff before approaching the podium. So you'll see these up front. Please make sure that you do sign your name. I believe it has your name and your address. Fill that out completely before you're called or before you approach the podium. [0:07:55, 0:08:11]: After each case is called, we will hear next from the uh city staff and then we will hear from the applicant or the representative about what their plans are for the property, along with any other relevant information they wish to present. The commission members will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote on a project. [0:08:12, 0:08:15]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak for or against the project. [0:08:16, 0:08:21]: Or just ask questions and we'll have an opportunity to do so. Each side is restricted to a maximum of ten minutes. [0:08:22, 0:08:28]: Or time may be waived at the discretion of the presiding official. If questions are raised, we may ask the applicant to speak again. [0:08:29, 0:08:31]: Afterward we would call for a motion and a second. [0:08:31, 0:08:34]: Have any necessary discussion and if the matter's not tabled [0:08:35, 0:08:43]: We will vote to recommend approval or denial of the application. This commission is only a recommending body. Please understand that. We are only a recommending body to the city council. [0:08:45, 0:08:51]: The items will be heard by the mayor and the council, whether we recommend approval or recommend denial, unless tabled. [0:08:51, 0:08:56]: Those item these items will be heard by the city's mayor and council at the next meeting on Monday, the twelfth of June. [0:08:57, 0:08:59]: and voted upon by them at the meeting. [0:09:01, 0:09:09]: Uh so we do have the first case tonight would be the Patrick Henry Master Parkway Master Plan. I'm sorry, Park Patrick Henry Parkway Master Plan. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: I'll read that into the record. [0:09:12, 0:09:15]: Um that's for council district five consideration of the [0:09:15, 0:09:20]: Patrick Henry Parkway Master Plan, which was prepared by the TSW consulting firm. [0:09:21, 0:09:34]: It proposed a mixture of retail, commercial, residential, and entertainment uses for areas along the southern end of Patrick Henry Parkway, with some properties lined within the Stockbridge city limits and others lined within unincorporated Henry County. [0:09:39, 0:09:41]: Okay, staff will now present the item, please. [0:09:49, 0:09:50]: Good evening, everyone. [0:09:55, 0:10:15]: I am going to attempt to present in this heat. My name is Kedra Jackson, Chief Planner of the Planning and Zoning Division. Tonight, before you, we would like for you to consider a citywide initiated rezoning by the City of Stockbridge. And the intent here is to rezone properties. [0:10:15, 0:10:21]: Um there are parcel numbers listed in your staff report, the copy of your staff report, but for the [0:10:28, 0:10:48]: The intent is to rezone the property from rural residential RR to planned unit development, PUD to allow for a mixed-use development. The subject properties range from the southern portion of Patrick Henry Boulevard, Parkway, excuse me, to the endpoint of Holloway Road. [0:10:48, 0:10:56]: The subject properties consist of various owners and contains approximately more or less 41.68 acres. [0:10:58, 0:11:18]: Again, the proposed development is a misuse development that will consist of residential components as well as office complexes, retail, hotels, or and different other misuse components. The established valuation of the project consists of 350. [0:11:18, 0:11:32]: fifty million dollars. It will also contain entertainment venues, restaurants, establishments. Also job opportunities will be presented to the citizens of the city of Stockbridge. [0:11:35, 0:11:40]: This property is located in District Five, Land Lot forty six. [0:11:41, 0:11:55]: As I mentioned, there are various owners that are aware of this rezoning and have consented to the city in moving forward with the rezoning. There is no history on this property. The property is vacant in nature. [0:11:56, 0:11:59]: And it would help if I move the PowerPoint here. [0:12:00, 0:12:15]: So this is the site plan of the proposed development. Um the subject property currently is vacant, heavily wooded, um, and as you can see it has a irregular shape to the him explained that to you. [0:12:18, 0:12:35]: Again, this is the site plan, the proposed site plan of the development. And this shows an aerial view of the property. So as you can see, there is residential development to the east of the property, vacant land. [0:12:35, 0:12:51]: goes all the way to Holloway Road, um to the west, again vac vacant land. And as I mentioned in twenty twenty three there was a proposed or uh um approved development to the north of this project of this property. [0:12:53, 0:12:57]: This is the zoning map of the property. [0:13:00, 0:13:12]: The the stars moved to the right a little bit, but um the yellow portions are the rural residential components and as you can see the arrows showing where Holloway Road is located. [0:13:15, 0:13:22]: This is a street view of the site towards that southeast corner of the subject property. [0:13:27, 0:13:30]: And here is the future land use map. [0:13:31, 0:13:51]: So what we're gonna do is just um the future land use map currently is showing um misuse residential, misuse residential. We're going to maintain the land use there. Um in your staff report you may see that um there was a um [0:13:51, 0:13:58]: Um statement that we may change the land use. We're not going to move forward with that. We'll just keep it here. [0:14:02, 0:14:12]: This does coincide with our comprehensive plan. Um, our comprehensive plan does calls for the development of misuse and office and retail. [0:14:12, 0:14:16]: Um the proposed mix use development will help to meet that need. [0:14:17, 0:14:27]: The companion future land use map shows a land use destination of high density residential. So I applied apologize. I think I said misuse before, but it's high density residential. [0:14:28, 0:14:44]: So this will include both residential and commercial uses. The compatible land use destination can be high density mitz use, but again, we're not um intending on changing the mitts use here. So the rezoning will be the only change that will be made. [0:14:44, 0:14:51]: Here is a proposed visual of what the development could look like. [0:14:52, 0:15:00]: And we are still in the planning stages of what um the architectural materials will consist of. [0:15:04, 0:15:21]: And there's another image of the proposed development. We are just presenting this tonight. We're not asking for a vote. Um this may come back before you. And um I will now hand it over to the city manager. [0:15:25, 0:15:26]: Good evening. [0:15:27, 0:15:28]: Um [0:15:28, 0:15:35]: As Ms. Keejo stated, this this has been a plan uh we've been working on with the property owners along that corridor. [0:15:35, 0:15:37]: uh for the last year and a half. [0:15:37, 0:15:40]: Um working along with TSW on behalf of the city. [0:15:41, 0:15:48]: And the intent behind this was not to have another major corridor that looks like the same with a bunch of strip centers and so forth. [0:15:49, 0:16:00]: So with that in mind, we took a proactive approach of working with the landowners to land plan this project to something that you typically see not see on the south side of Atlanta, or should I say south of I twenty. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: You see this in the Brookhaven? [0:16:03, 0:16:11]: You see this in the Sugar Hill, you see this in the Swanee, you see this in the Alpharetta area. Um [0:16:11, 0:16:18]: And working with those guys to say, hey, how do we do something different here that hasn't been done on the south side of Atlanta? [0:16:18, 0:16:38]: Um in the 25 years I've been here and engaged in land use planning and management. And so with that, we've sat down with these landowners and said, look, we don't want the same the same typical development. And with that, we've we've worked together with land planning firm to come up with a a true concept of a mixed-use development. [0:16:38, 0:16:58]: Um, where we have vertical mix use as well as um restaurant opportunities, office opportunities, um, residential opportunities. Um what you see before you on this plan was back in 2010, the county engaged in a Liverpool Centers initiative study that was done for this whole entire area. [0:16:58, 0:17:14]: area and part of that plan re reflected what you see here on on the map to the right. Right. Um as we know that back then we were coming out of well still in a recession back then and the market has changed. [0:17:14, 0:17:17]: Uh and so that plan has changed to some degree. [0:17:17, 0:17:37]: But we recognize that some of the components in that plan are still useful. And with that in mind, we move forward with with a new concept. I will say that the multifamily that you see here will probably end up not getting built for the simple fact that I can't tell you who's potentially coming there, but there's a major entity. [0:17:37, 0:17:42]: That's coming there that would be a literal game changer for not just the city of Stockbridge, but for [0:17:43, 0:17:51]: Henry County as a whole and the South Side of Atlanta for the whole. Because in order for you to enjoy that venue, you literally have to go on the north side of Atlanta to get to it. [0:17:52, 0:18:12]: And I will leave it at that. Um but the other components of this are still very much in play. Um and this is something that obviously uh we've talked to Henry County about. They are very much engaged in this. This is the type of planning that I was hoping that would happen throughout the county at some point to slow down the mass development in the Hitherland. [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: Um [0:18:14, 0:18:34]: But a portion of this property to the south is still in the county. Um the owner of that pro portion of the development is actually going to be seeking annexation with the county is aware of. They've seen this plan, they have no problems with it, um, and should allow for that portion to come into the city. This will be a little different from what you see across the street on the southwest. [0:18:34, 0:18:54]: Portion of the interchange with the Bridges of Jotico. You have more dispersed use. Here it's a little bit more condensed. But pretty much not accomplishing this with a big box retail. There will be no big box retail here. There will be mom and pop shops with folks living above, restaurant up. [0:18:54, 0:19:14]: Opportunities and we are actually actively talking to restaurants. Um, a few of them you may know by name about locating as in portions of this development as well. So it's an ongoing process with us working um with the landowners and their reps to make this happen. Um and hopefully uh by the time I come back to you guys. [0:19:14, 0:19:27]: next month I will actually be able to name the entity that's actually coming on the top portion of this property. Okay. All right. And this is just for presentation. I'm here to ask any questions you may have. Okay. Um while you're there. Any questions from the board? [0:19:29, 0:19:29]: Mr. J. [0:19:30, 0:19:50]: Yeah, um thank you, Ms. Jackson, and thank you, City Manager, for the the report. Uh a few questions actually, but I know it's still in the planning process. So I just want to make sure one, I say this every meeting, just about, um I'm one thousand percent for bringing new development and bringing success for our city. Um but this is I definitely can say this is something that the young professionals [0:19:50, 0:19:57]: That we want to bring to the city will definitely come to. Um, but I have a few concerns and a few questions. Uh one is [0:19:58, 0:20:00]: Let me see how to say this right. [0:20:01, 0:20:12]: Um, is there a reason why this is still another like kinda sort of the similar project in district five? Like is there now no other district this can be done in around the city or? [0:20:12, 0:20:25]: So the answer to the question is where do you put density from a land use smart planning concept? You put it next to where the transportation network could support it, right? If I built this in Kellytown, it would be totally out of place. [0:20:25, 0:20:29]: Right, because there's nothing in Kellytown to support a development like this, right? [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: So most of the folks like you say it. [0:20:32, 0:20:35]: This development probably won't have me living in it, but who will it have? [0:20:35, 0:20:40]: My son, who's twenty three years old, that lives in a development just like this in Alexandria, Virginia. [0:20:41, 0:20:44]: Right, but he doesn't want to come home because those amenities don't exist here. [0:20:45, 0:20:53]: Right. Um, so yeah, this would be something that would attract him, pretty much in your generation. Right. Um, so this is not for me. [0:20:54, 0:20:58]: Right, when I leave this, it's gonna be either acreages or island. [0:20:58, 0:20:59]: I'm a boo. [0:20:59, 0:21:02]: Um outside of that, um [0:21:02, 0:21:11]: There is this is where you would want to put a density development. And if you go back to Henry County's zoning and land use plan, this is what you call a node. [0:21:12, 0:21:14]: So you have the density necessary. [0:21:15, 0:21:24]: But it's close to where you have our major arterial interstate interchange to allow for flow of traffic. So this is the best place to put it from a land use planning standpoint. [0:21:25, 0:21:45]: Okay. I'm gonna try to sum up my last my last questions all at one time. One, I saw on here the collaboration master plan coordination. Um, and this is a huge development. I don't see that there was any coordination or discussion with the school board about it. I mean it's it's literally directly close to the school. Hold on, not finished. I'm I'm gonna give you all of them at one time. Um one, the school the school board, because [0:21:44, 0:21:50]: Um traffic study, um also [0:21:51, 0:22:07]: Is there gonna be any type of road road expansion for that area? Um and then I I wanna say these are two retention ponds on the I wanna say north and kind of the southeastern western side of it. Are those retention ponds in the in the layout or w what is that on the side? [0:22:07, 0:22:10]: To to the north. Okay. So first question, B O E. [0:22:11, 0:22:31]: Um so no, the BOE, this hasn't been approved, so no, it hasn't gone to them and they don't review uh zoning nor the county zonings. Um they give reference in the as a determined to the impact. So what you see here are not three bedrooms. These are typically gonna be um for the above retail, probably one and two bedroom. [0:22:30, 0:22:34]: homes for the most part. Um you will have some town homes here. [0:22:35, 0:22:55]: Um, like I said, the apartments will probably go away or will go away and will not be developed as part of this if that entity um when I can disclose who it is, w when you find out who it is, they won't that those apartments will go away. So as it relates to impact on the school should not be any different than [0:22:54, 0:23:14]: Um the development that's 100% rental a half a mile down the street from this, um, or what's happening at the bridges of Jodeco for the most part. As it relates to traffic study, um, there's already been traffic study done. As you see on this plan, you have a four-lane divided. [0:23:14, 0:23:16]: [1396.6, 1401.3]: Um right now if you're on Patrick Henry and you're going from Jodico to Eagles Landing. [0:23:21, 0:23:27]: The lanes that you see that are northbound and southbound are actually the northbound road. [0:23:27, 0:23:34]: up to Eagles Landing. Um both the city and the county have put monies towards the um [0:23:35, 0:23:55]: This engineering and design work as it relates to the other additional lane that needs to come through. The right-of-way exists for pretty much ninety-five percent of the roadway. Um the bridge will have to be replaced, obviously. Um and also um so and the developer would also put in part of the cost to make those road improvements or bond. [0:23:55, 0:24:10]: for in lieu thereof. I will say that um like I said this is a collaborative we understand that this road is going to be improved. This development obviously won't get built in one year. This is going to be a multi-year project. [0:24:10, 0:24:23]: Uh and so the road construction will coincide with the development. Um our goal is to have Splus Two be the actual development um for the northbound lane, well the southbound lane, two lanes when it comes through. [0:24:25, 0:24:35]: And that's what's planned for for Patrick Henry. So right now it's in uh SPLOS six to do the engineering and design. It'll be in T Splos two. [0:24:35, 0:24:42]: for development and the replacement of the bridge, which still needs to be replaced regardless if this get the road gets foreigned. [0:24:46, 0:24:48]: Mr. President, may I speak? [0:24:49, 0:24:51]: Mr. Chair. Mr. Tibbell. [0:24:52, 0:24:57]: Uh at one time that area was supposed to be a overlay district of high rise buildings. [0:24:57, 0:25:03]: I noticed when I was reading they said they didn't have any other plans about that area. I know for a fact. [0:25:04, 0:25:07]: that that area was supposed to have been a high rise office building at one time. [0:25:08, 0:25:11]: Could you explain to the ordin the audience? [0:25:12, 0:25:14]: What is a actual overlay district for? [0:25:15, 0:25:15]: Okay. [0:25:16, 0:25:22]: So an overlay district is literally you have your base zoning which may be residential or commercial. [0:25:23, 0:25:36]: Um, an overlay is what you put more additional restrictions on top of which you see without actually adding it to the base zoning, the underlying zoning. So those regulations usually include architectural design, landscaping. [0:25:36, 0:25:51]: Um they could control additional uses as part of the overlay district or restrict certain types of uses as part of the overlay district. So it's just another layer of development re regulations on top of what's existing already. [0:25:52, 0:25:54]: And that's why they call it an ovally. [0:25:58, 0:26:07]: And yes, um the original plan had, as you see in the 2010 plan, had more office. As you know, COVID has changed the way of life as it relates to office. [0:26:07, 0:26:08]: Um [0:26:08, 0:26:20]: A lot of office space are now sitting vacant, Goax, Dunwoody and Sandy Springs, would their tax base gonna be impacted by vacant office buildings? Um, and they actually [0:26:20, 0:26:29]: had a article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution about the negative impacts on vacant office space that is gonna be impacting Sandy Springs and Dunwoody. [0:26:30, 0:26:31]: Um over the next year or two. [0:26:32, 0:26:36]: Um because not a lot of companies are now allowing their employees hybrid schedules. [0:26:36, 0:26:38]: А лот вам увольки 100%. [0:26:39, 0:26:52]: Um and so that's why the office you see there's been a downplay in office. Yes. Ten years ago I would have told you that this area was ripe for office development, or fifteen years ago, um that reality has changed a little bit. [0:26:55, 0:26:58]: All right, thank you. Any other questions from the board? [0:26:58, 0:26:59]: Yes, Mr. Plant. [0:26:59, 0:27:05]: I just have a question. Is it uh correct to assume that all this property is currently annexed into the city of Stockbridge? [0:27:05, 0:27:10]: All except um the portion below Holloway. [0:27:10, 0:27:13]: adjacent between Holloway and Jodoko. [0:27:13, 0:27:25]: It's not. It's recently been purchased by Mr. Patel. Mr. Patel is on board with this plan and will be annexing in his property within the near future. So all of it will eventually be in the city. [0:27:34, 0:27:35]: Anyone else? [0:27:37, 0:27:42]: I do need to ask, as we will not be voting on this tonight, do we open for public debate? [0:27:58, 0:28:03]: I think it's only fair. So I will ask if you would like to comment if you are for [0:28:04, 0:28:20]: Please line up to my right or your left. Make sure you sign in. If you are against, please line up to my left or your right. When you approach the podium, please make sure you state your name, state your address. Um speak into the microphone, please. [0:28:29, 0:28:49]: Good evening. Before you start the clock, your Anthony, correct? I am. Your name tag is No, that's okay. It was I was just kept wondering what was who was who. Sorry. Thank you. My name is Ann Fields. Um, just to speak briefly on the Patrick Henry Parkway development. [0:28:49, 0:28:50]: Okay. [0:28:51, 0:29:01]: Those of us that live in Eagles Crest, which is across the street from this development, the houses um that are in the existing development, which you can see. [0:29:01, 0:29:20]: the existing development is below the hospital. So all those homes that are on the right side of the the development proposed on the screen, those existing homes is Eagles Crest. So um I live there, I'm house number eight on Chase Marion Way. [0:29:20, 0:29:21]: And um [0:29:22, 0:29:25]: There's a I know the developments are gonna happen. [0:29:26, 0:29:46]: The 77 and 87 Holloway, I want to bring this up first because I'm sitting here with my jaw dropped. I opened a Publix Records request to get a copy of the finalized plan for that. It was closed, stating it was not prepared. However, during Main Street or the other daytime public meetings. [0:29:46, 0:29:52]: Meetings, one of the councilmen had said that plan was ready months ago in March and during the March meeting. [0:29:52, 0:30:03]: I have yet to see a finalized development plan for seventy seven eighty seven. And what is on the screen is not what was sent to us, is not what was discussed, is not what council voted on. [0:30:03, 0:30:20]: So now I'm even more concerned with what I'm gonna say about this. Num point number one being the entrances and exits of anything you build along Patrick Henry have to be considered very seriously. The Department of G D O T [0:30:21, 0:30:22]: has already stated [0:30:22, 0:30:23]: Excuse me. [0:30:24, 0:30:44]: Has already stated that they will not allow entrance and exit from Jodico because of the I-75 ramp. So immediately any property that is below the hallway down to Jodico could be developed, but you're pushing those people down in and then back out. [0:30:44, 0:31:04]: And we're very, very concerned about the Holloway intersection. I tried my hardest during the SPLOST meetings to get a roundabout considered for Holloway and uh Patrick Henry. That may end up as part of the overall development plan for the widening of the [0:31:04, 0:31:24]: The road, but it was not a separate consideration. Any traffic studies being done need to be done during the school year period, because the traffic to and from the school, morning and afternoon, is abominable and it's horribly dangerous. Entering and exiting hallway on [0:31:24, 0:31:31]: To Patrick Henry because of school traffic and the traffic that's already perusing Patrick Henry. [0:31:31, 0:31:39]: We haven't seen the worst of the traffic here because Costco development bridges is nowhere near done. That is going to [0:31:40, 0:32:00]: Probably quadruple or more the volume of traffic on Patrick Henry alone. All of those things need please need considered. We don't need to lose anyone's life, especially someone with a child in their car. Contingent upon any right-of-way for any development should be the fact that that land be donated for [0:32:00, 0:32:04]: for the widening of Patrick Henry if it already hasn't been acquired. [0:32:05, 0:32:25]: Um that would save any millions of dollars to go towards construction, um, design and construction from the SPLOST and T SPLOST funds. Um if you're going to approve multi-use and mixed use, you were just mentioning taking out the apartments as part of closing the first phase of this deal. [0:32:25, 0:32:45]: So that's kind of a big concern. If we're staying with mixed-use, multi-use, shouldn't we stick to that master plan? I'm very concerned about noise, fire protection, insects, and rodents, as they are paramount to our physical and mental health. And so we would want to have noise barriers, fire. [0:32:45, 0:33:05]: protection, proper placement of between buildings, um, all of those adequate things that won't drive one building to catch another on fire, and of course, insect control. And um as I mentioned, that property that's below hall um below Holloway has no exit onto Jodico. So [0:33:05, 0:33:09]: Please plan entrance and exit into this plan very, very carefully. Thank you. [0:33:10, 0:33:10]: Thank you. [0:33:16, 0:33:36]: My name's Connie Snow and I live at 426 Chase Marion Way. I also live in the Eagles Crest Subdivision and I second everything that Ann said. When we had meetings about this months ago, I'd brought up the school systems. We sit directly in front of Eagles Landing High School, Eagles Landing Middle School, and not very far from Flippin' Elementary. In fact, most [0:33:36, 0:33:53]: Most schools or most kids in the Eagles Landing Middle and High School walk to and from their homes that live in that area. So then we're gonna put all these extra apartments and homes right around that area where obviously those kids are gonna attend that school because it is in close walking distance. [0:33:53, 0:34:13]: And they're probably gonna walk because that's just what they're gonna do. That's what young teenage kids and middle school kids do, right? That road's not set up for'em. They're all gonna get hit. We're gonna have so many kids they're gonna be hit by cars because we're not planning proper uh properly. Additionally, there's so much little water resources and streams around the area. My neighborhood's already [0:34:13, 0:34:33]: Are already constantly flooding with the creek source that's right behind Eagles Landing High School. It floods quite a lot, so much so that my property is eradicating rapidly. The moment you guys keep cut cutting down these trees, that water's just gonna start flooding. And it's not only gonna flood Eagles Crest, it's gonna flood the surrounding homes around that area. It's gonna start [0:34:33, 0:34:45]: start to breach out across Jodeco and those homes over there. And it's eventually going to impact the Eagles Landing High School and Middle School area and their football fields. It's all going to be damped and wet and damaged. [0:34:45, 0:34:56]: It's not a properly planned development. And to piggyback off what Ann said, the renderings that we were given for both Patrick Henry and Holloway look drastically different than they do today. [0:34:57, 0:35:09]: It was listed on the site that the property owners were contacted. We were contacted months ago when this first started. But as we can all tell today, what we talked about and what we even disagreed on. [0:35:10, 0:35:17]: hasn't it it's been made differently, it's changed rapidly, and none of us have been consulted. And that's not fair to us as a community. [0:35:17, 0:35:37]: When I was here months ago and I brought up the school system to the mayor and the city council, and I told them that I was not only worried about the danger of our kids walking, I was worried about the increased crime rate. There's been multiple shootings in my neighborhood. Again, I sit directly behind the high school football field, so much so that the kids can walk. [0:35:37, 0:35:38]: From the football build. [0:35:38, 0:35:42]: through the the property that the school homes and ended up in my backyard. [0:35:43, 0:36:03]: We've had multiple shootings. The crime is gonna get so much worse. Our infrastructure is so poorly planned right now. This is not a good place for it. Because at the end of the day, while the businesses are getting rich and we think we're solving this shortage of homes, all we're doing is cramming stuff in in areas where it's poorly planned and it doesn't belong. [0:36:03, 0:36:03]: Okay. [0:36:04, 0:36:18]: This development does not belong here. This development will cause us to be terrible of our. And I beg of you to please do whatever you can to stop it. We deserve better in this county and whatever you guys can do to do what's right, not just for me. [0:36:19, 0:36:23]: But for our kids, because at the end of the day, the ultimate impact from that development. [0:36:23, 0:36:39]: is going to be our children. And there's not one person that sits on this board or the city that could deny that. The mayor told me at the last meeting that while he cared about kids, those two schools set on county property and it wasn't the city's problem. That was his exact words. [0:36:41, 0:36:43]: At what point do we care? Thank you. [0:36:44, 0:36:44]: Thank you. [0:36:53, 0:37:07]: I'm gonna just sit this on here. Hey y'all. Uh I was not really prepared to come, but then I saw the uh agenda for tonight, so I wanted to come. My name is Tina Corey and I live at 660 Chambers Road in McDonough, Georgia. [0:37:07, 0:37:11]: I've been a resident here for thirty five years and I'm the founder of Conserve Henry. [0:37:11, 0:37:15]: And I just wanted to point out a few things and I see a lot of friendly faces there, but [0:37:16, 0:37:18]: One of the things that I wanted to [0:37:18, 0:37:21]: to kind of share with you all is is the fact that [0:37:21, 0:37:29]: When you're looking at your future land use map and you see where we're gonna go and that's gonna be the future, a lot of things need to be taken into consideration. [0:37:29, 0:37:34]: And I know most of you probably had breakfast this morning. I know I did. I had bacon and eggs. [0:37:34, 0:37:54]: Next time that you look at a plate of bacon and eggs, I want you to think of two things. I want you to remember that for the chicken, that was a day's work. For the pig, that was a lifetime commitment. So when these things come up, and this is a result of um ARC and TSW, which is their planners, along with SB 612 that created. [0:37:54, 0:37:55]: Yeah. [0:37:55, 0:37:58]: Uh, when you look at that I want you to remember that for the [0:37:59, 0:38:11]: Developers and their attorneys, this is a day's work. They don't live here and they're not invested. For us here in the community, we live here, we're gonna stay here, we're invested here, and that's the commitment that's gonna be made for us to endure. [0:38:12, 0:38:26]: A couple of things I wanted to raise with you all is number one, I'll be perfectly honest with you. I'm really disappointed that there's nobody up there on that board that looks like me. Nobody on that board that looks like me. And that that's kind of a little [0:38:27, 0:38:29]: disconcerting that it's an all male board. [0:38:29, 0:38:36]: And nobody there to look out for family and children issues, nobody there to look out for racial racial and social issues. [0:38:36, 0:38:39]: Or conservation and education. [0:38:39, 0:38:42]: problems that we have right now in h in Henry County that I am [0:38:42, 0:38:43]: So in [0:38:43, 0:38:44]: You know, just [0:38:45, 0:38:45]: worried [0:38:46, 0:38:50]: Абин вот words can actually express is our schools and our education. [0:38:50, 0:39:09]: If you remember, hi uh uh Clayton County lost its accreditation. It took them several years to get their accreditation back. We are on that path now. These are the same developers from Clayton County that are now pushing what they want to push here, more apartments, more this, more that, while we have failing schools, and if we don't [0:39:09, 0:39:13]: Wake up and do something, we're gonna be going down that path. [0:39:13, 0:39:16]: And and all you have to do is turn on the paper and look at the news. [0:39:16, 0:39:22]: Also, I'm here because I have a nephew that was murdered in Hampton. His name is Fernando Rodriguez. [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: And that happened in twenty nineteen, and we've been waiting for justice for that. [0:39:26, 0:39:30]: We have a lot of issues in this county that need to be [0:39:30, 0:39:39]: taken into consideration and we need to start looking at collaborations and things like when you said you left out the education. I we should have an intergovernmental [0:39:39, 0:39:45]: relationship with all of the other agencies and especially with our children and family side of it that [0:39:46, 0:39:50]: You know, education not being the forefront and all these decisions made. [0:39:50, 0:39:53]: And I'm sorry, no more apartments. So back in the day [0:39:53, 0:39:54]: When [0:39:54, 0:39:59]: My children were little. I have four children that are grown and and three of them live here in Henry County. [0:39:59, 0:40:03]: Ан, а сев гранки. [0:40:03, 0:40:07]: So back in the day, our problem was I live on the other side of the interstate. [0:40:08, 0:40:14]: I worked so hard to get funding in the department of transportation for Henry County, for Jonesboro Road and for [0:40:15, 0:40:26]: Jodico Road because our problem was we had emergencies. We could not even get over to the hospital. So now now that we finally have some openings to be able to get to the hospital, and that's the only hospital that serves our county. [0:40:27, 0:40:31]: Наю блок, автор авtried со хар то опену апат то геть. [0:40:31, 0:40:42]: So that I have a son that's type one juvenile diabetic. We have other issues. I have aging parents or grandparents uh that were living with me at the time and you know that was a big concern. So [0:40:43, 0:41:02]: Pl please just, you know, I'm not saying anything about this development completely, but we're a family. We're all Henry County. And your land use map impacts Henry County's land use map and Hampton's land use map. And we just need to start to come together and start thinking about conserving Henry to make it better for those that are coming behind us. And I know that my children [0:41:02, 0:41:17]: want to stay here for a good county, but they don't want to stay here for a county that doesn't care about education. Who wants to put their kids in a failing school? So again, thank you. Look at SB six twelve. You'll see who benefits from that. And it's not the citizens of Henry County. Thank you. Thank you. [0:41:25, 0:41:37]: So as this was a city presentation and update, I did not ask if there was anyone from TSW consulting. So I'm going to make the assumption no one is here. So you went to Rabut or uh make any comments? You said from where? From the uh consulting group. [0:41:37, 0:41:57]: No, the consulting group was was hired by this by the city to do the work. They didn't propagate this on their own. This was something that they was asked to work in with us and connected with the landowners to come up with a master plan for the area, right? Um, so someone said that this is different from the plan that was. [0:41:57, 0:42:02]: approved. So I assume that everybody's getting this mix up with the piece of property that uh [0:42:03, 0:42:19]: pretty much wrap adjacent to um where Miss um Connie um lives, um which is that triangular piece. Um if you could see it on here, which is this. This is not included in this project. That's already been rezoned. [0:42:19, 0:42:24]: Um council resumed that last year. That's not part of this project. [0:42:24, 0:42:32]: Um so no, this is different from that. It's not the same thing that we changed it. I think that's a little confusing there. That's not the same thing. [0:42:32, 0:42:35]: Um, I do agree. Um [0:42:36, 0:42:40]: I have an eleven year old just left uh flipping elementary and is now at [0:42:41, 0:42:45]: Eagles Landing Middle School um as a sixth grader. [0:42:45, 0:42:50]: Uh my son attended Eagles Landon High School and Dutchtown High School and Dutchtown Middle School. [0:42:50, 0:42:52]: Um so I get it. [0:42:52, 0:42:55]: I'm vested here too, twenty five years in. [0:42:55, 0:42:59]: Um and my kids have gone through the school system and are going through the system. [0:43:00, 0:43:20]: Uh and so I understand the concerns and thank you, Victoria. I don't know if you remember me, but I remember when you were fighting for bike lanes in the county when I first got here. Um so yes, ma'am. So um and she knows we used to ask to put those as conditions on Zona and got them denied by the order of commissioners years ago. Um and unfortunately. [0:43:20, 0:43:28]: Unfortunate the work that she did, especially on Jodeco Road, where we have the bike lanes, they're now gone, unfortunate. You can't see them. Um [0:43:28, 0:43:39]: Right. Um, but we still have folks to traverse. So yes, um as it relates to um Costco having the impact and the traffic impact, I agree um that yes, [0:43:39, 0:43:45]: That intersection because I go that way once I leave Eaglesland in middle school. I come down and then I turn north on that road. [0:43:47, 0:43:51]: And yes, the traffic is you know it is bad. The school's traffic is bad on [0:43:52, 0:44:01]: tunest to begin with. Um, because you got people that don't adhere to the rules. Um, but as it relates to a traffic relief, I want everybody to remember that there is a [0:44:02, 0:44:07]: Western parallel connected, it will go from Hudson Bridge down to Jodeco Road. [0:44:07, 0:44:13]: Um one portion of that Chin Parkway is already constructed and the state is working on [0:44:14, 0:44:26]: getting the portion between Jodoko Road back to Hudson Bridge. If you haven't don't know where that is, if you go to Walmart right there at the McDonalds, [0:44:26, 0:44:38]: The Four Lean Road that just dead ends at the back of McDonald's, that's the road that's actually going to push all the way down to Jo to Jo Jonesboro Road. So there will be a western parallel um [0:44:39, 0:44:44]: that's coming through that would obviously believe and that start that phase starts construction I think next month. [0:44:45, 0:44:47]: Um so that'll be on the way. [0:44:47, 0:44:53]: So that'll be some relief so you won't have a lot of traffic coming directly to Costco from that area, they'll come down on the other side. [0:44:54, 0:44:54]: Um [0:44:55, 0:45:15]: Yes, we need to look at the intersection and that's something that I think she mentioned about a roundabout and yeah, and that would be helpful if we could make that work. Definitely I think it makes sense, um, as part of the deal. Um, no, there is no access point uh that we've looked at because it doesn't make any sense to put a access point between [0:45:15, 0:45:19]: The northbound interchange and Jo and Patrick Henry on Jodeco. [0:45:20, 0:45:21]: G Dot won't approve one. [0:45:22, 0:45:27]: Um and it doesn't make any sense because at that point where this property is, it's the actual [0:45:27, 0:45:34]: taper lane to get onto the interstate from there and that doesn't make any sense to put traffic going there because the only place you could go is on the interstate. [0:45:35, 0:45:51]: So no one's that's bad transportation planning. I think if you look clearly at what we propose here, a lot of uh you know, and this isn't the final it'll hopefully be the won't be the final, but a lot of interior movements to allow for a lot of the traffic to stay inside. Um, as it relates to students walk into school. [0:45:52, 0:45:55]: I don't know how many kids are gonna walk a mile. [0:45:55, 0:46:07]: Um literally from this product pr development down Patrick Henry down up Holloway and up Tunis. Um they're probably gonna catch a bus for the kids that are actually coming out of here. Um [0:46:09, 0:46:29]: Because there are some kids that do walk and I see them in the morning, um, that live on Tunis and some that live on Holloway. Some of the older kids. Um, as it relates to ARC, um, pushing this, um I've been a cine planner for almost thirty five years, um, also certified. [0:46:29, 0:46:34]: nationally through the American Institute of Certified Planners. This is something we call [0:46:35, 0:46:37]: Good planning for the standpoint of [0:46:38, 0:46:43]: We offset development going out more into Kelly town, where we do have. [0:46:43, 0:46:46]: environ more way more environmentally sensitive areas. [0:46:47, 0:46:47]: Um [0:46:48, 0:46:49]: Right. Um [0:46:49, 0:47:00]: by allowing this to happen and not to be spreading out at one acre lots or three quarter acre lots. And I always tell folks if you pull back on the Google Earth and look at Henry County. [0:47:01, 0:47:05]: Alright, all you see is single family developments everywhere. [0:47:06, 0:47:10]: Right. And if you move to Henry County like I did in two thousand? [0:47:10, 0:47:12]: I was part of the problem. [0:47:13, 0:47:14]: Why? [0:47:14, 0:47:17]: Henry County started growing in nineteen ninety four. [0:47:18, 0:47:19]: We've got a lot of developments coming in. [0:47:20, 0:47:23]: The crust of that started when they built Eagles Landing Country Club. [0:47:24, 0:47:26]: I'd put Henry County on the map. Since then, she's right. [0:47:27, 0:47:30]: А ремонта ту ленс от Его'на День. А до ремонта ту ленс. [0:47:31, 0:47:36]: Across the interstate at Jodico Road. I do remember the two lanes at Jonesboro Road. [0:47:36, 0:47:43]: Right. Um, I was here for that, and I was here watching ambulance having to go up on the sidewalk to go around cars because it was only two lanes. [0:47:44, 0:47:44]: Um [0:47:45, 0:47:51]: I was here when twenty eighty one was improved and now it's improved again. It's a diverging diamond. So in the last twenty five years. [0:47:51, 0:47:53]: I watched that roadway change twice. [0:47:54, 0:48:10]: Right. Um and now we're proposing another interchange down at Bethlehem Road. So yes, unfortunate. Um unlike Texas, Georgia doesn't allow for the infrastructure to be built ahead of time with nothing on it. We tend to be lagging behind. [0:48:11, 0:48:12]: Um I literally spent [0:48:13, 0:48:33]: a week in Dallas metro area and was wondering where all these roads go to because there was nothing on'em. Um and then the guy painted the picture for me that this is come what's coming will come to this and we won't have to retroactively fix it. I wish we could get to that point. Um but unfortunately we've lagged behind, schools have lagged behind here as well. Um [0:48:34, 0:48:36]: As a release to noise and fire protection. [0:48:37, 0:48:42]: You know, anything that's built has to be built to code. That code is controlled by um [0:48:42, 0:49:00]: International Code Congress, which is adopted by the Department of Community Affairs and all adop all associated communities adopt the ICC building and property maintenance codes um and fire protection codes. We have to adhere to those. Um so we can't bill without adhering to those standards. Um [0:49:00, 0:49:20]: The right-of-patrick Henry already exists for the most part, as I mentioned. 90% of that is already in place. Um and hopefully, yes, we're as we work with the development, the goal is to offset the cost on the impact on this plus by allowing the developer to put in at least 50% of the costs towards the road improvement. That way, Henry County. [0:49:20, 0:49:23]: And Stockbridge only puts in twenty five twenty five. [0:49:23, 0:49:41]: Plus there's fifty equals a hundred percent. Uh and that's discussions that'll be ongoing as we go through the process. Um I think that was some of the concerns on the infrastructure addressed at schools. Um obviously, you know, the quality our schools, and I always say this. [0:49:41, 0:49:45]: I actually spent two years being a school teacher after gradu undergraduate school. [0:49:46, 0:49:49]: Failing schools are dependent on failing parents. [0:49:50, 0:49:50]: Period. [0:49:52, 0:49:54]: Right. I remember working in the city of Griffin. [0:49:55, 0:49:56]: as their development director. [0:49:57, 0:50:06]: And people did not want their kids to go to Griffin High School. But you know what's one of the number one schools for putting kids in the service academy of the United States of America? [0:50:07, 0:50:07]: Griffin High School. [0:50:08, 0:50:11]: So explain to me how those kids can literally [0:50:11, 0:50:16]: Get the GPA and the necessary academic skills to qualify to go to. [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: The Air Force Academy, West Point. [0:50:19, 0:50:20]: The Naval Academy. [0:50:21, 0:50:22]: Coming from a failing school. [0:50:23, 0:50:25]: Failing kids are because of failing parents. [0:50:26, 0:50:27]: Period. [0:50:28, 0:50:37]: I'm a parent of two. My fourteen year old, when he was fourteen, he's now twenty-three, did not go outside at night. I know exactly where he was. My eleven year old does not traverse around the street. [0:50:38, 0:50:40]: Because I'm a concerned parent. [0:50:41, 0:50:58]: Right. So I think we need to put the onus where it is. So on poor parenting or poor parents. Um so if you put it in, your kid could go to any failing school and still succeed. You know why? Because if you put the time into your kid and your kid put the time into the work, they'll succeed. [0:50:59, 0:50:59]: Right. [0:50:59, 0:51:00]: Um I'm a product of that. [0:51:02, 0:51:03]: So I could speak to that. [0:51:03, 0:51:10]: And I think my kid could speak to that, who finished Wesleyan University and now working for a major firm in the Washington DC area. [0:51:10, 0:51:11]: Graduated from Eagles Landing High School. [0:51:12, 0:51:13]: Twenty eighteen. [0:51:14, 0:51:16]: got an appointment to United States Naval Academy. [0:51:18, 0:51:19]: But chose to play soccer. [0:51:19, 0:51:21]: At a small school in North Carolina. [0:51:21, 0:51:22]: Right. [0:51:22, 0:51:23]: Came from Eagles Line High School. [0:51:24, 0:51:24]: So [0:51:25, 0:51:28]: What you put into your kids is what you get out. You put zero, you get zero out. [0:51:29, 0:51:33]: Um, development don't control educational attainment. Never has. [0:51:33, 0:51:38]: Um, but we still have to look at that, right? Um, and account for it. [0:51:39, 0:51:59]: So this is still in the planning stage. Um we're working, hopefully like I said, this is not for you guys to vote on tonight. Our goal is to kind of give you guys what's coming. We did this presentation before the um city council back in November. Um we presented this to um the board of commissioners, uh some of the board and the staff to review. [0:51:59, 0:52:13]: and got their feedback. Um and so with that not asking for a vote and we'll make the necessary changes, we'll address some of the concerns. Um because I do know that that intersection is a concern that Holloway and at Holloway and um [0:52:14, 0:52:20]: And Patrick Henry, as well as Holloway and Tunis, which is a bad left hand turn. [0:52:21, 0:52:30]: if you go into the schools. Um and so at that I will end and uh we'll make uh keep these comments so we'll make necessary changes as and then [0:52:30, 0:52:36]: At some point we'll bring bringing this back to the planning commission um to actually take action on and take more comments. [0:52:37, 0:52:38]: All right, thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [0:52:39, 0:52:47]: Okay. As this is a non voting item, we've got a lot of ground to cover. Um unless the board has anything else they'd like to ask, I think we'll we'll move on. [0:52:50, 0:52:56]: Okay. Ms. Logan, could you repeat item two for me again? You made a comment earlier, it's been a while. [0:53:01, 0:53:13]: Two, um it was adoption of new land use and zoning maps for City of Stockbridge. The planning and zoning office needs um needs to conduct further research on this. [0:53:14, 0:53:19]: Okay, understood. Did we require a vote to pass on this? [0:53:25, 0:53:27]: and two it was advertised for [0:53:29, 0:53:30]: Yeah. [0:53:31, 0:53:31]: Mm-hmm. [0:53:33, 0:53:34]: We do. I think. [0:53:41, 0:53:41]: Okay. [0:53:45, 0:53:51]: No, no, I think we can if we can pass. That's what we can do. We want to remove it from tonight's agenda. [0:53:52, 0:53:57]: Okay. Do I have a motion from uh the board to remove from the agenda? [0:53:58, 0:54:09]: Chair. Motion to move item number two adoption of the new the new land use and zoning maps for the city of Stockbridge to uh for a meeting in in the future. [0:54:09, 0:54:16]: I'll second it to Harrell. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passes. [0:54:23, 0:54:30]: Okay, the next case is CP two zero two four four four four four zero one. I'll read this into the record. This is council district five. [0:54:30, 0:54:50]: Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request to change the future land use designation of property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprising parcel zero three two dash zero one zero two six zero zero zero from medium density mixed use to medium density residential to allow for the construction of a townhome development. The applicant is Lonaire, Georgia. [0:54:50, 0:55:01]: L L C the agent is battle law PC. The property is located in land lot twenty one of District Six. It contains twenty point three six seven acres. Um mister Lighton, I'll let you present, please. [0:55:03, 0:55:15]: All right, thank you Vice Chair. Um these are the presentations for CP twenty four dash zero one and R C twenty four dash zero one and VR twenty four dash zero three. [0:55:17, 0:55:37]: As mentioned, the applicant is Lenard Georgia, represented by Battle Law, and the owner is Mount Zion 48 LLC, and the number of proposed units per acre is 6.87 units per acre. The address of the property is located around Hudson Bridge Drive with a total number of acres of 20.367. [0:55:37, 0:55:56]: Um as far as the project characteristics, it's vacant and is mostly wooded, with the eastern portion of the site that contains steep topography, wetlands with a twenty five state buffer, fifty foot stream buffer, and a seventy five impervious setback as part of a nearby stream. And it also includes a portion of Hudson Bridge Drive which was granted to Eastement. [0:55:57, 0:56:05]: The current future land use designation is medium density mixed use with the current zoning of C two, and the sign was posted on july sixteenth. [0:56:10, 0:56:13]: This is the aerial photo of the subject property. [0:56:26, 0:56:28]: And this is the arrow. [0:56:28, 0:56:29]: Aero photo with a side plan. [0:56:30, 0:56:36]: And the area is surrounded by Walmart shopping, the center, the shopping plaza, which is over here. [0:56:37, 0:56:47]: And Taco Bell. The property is also adjacent to the Oakwood Manor, which is Henry right here in Henry County, and the St Ives apartment, which is above here. [0:56:50, 0:57:03]: This is a street view of the southwest corner of the site on the left side. Uh although you can't really see, that's Taco Bell. And this is the site right here. And this part right here is the uh shopping plaza. [0:57:05, 0:57:10]: And if you drive further up, this is the site and then this is to Walmart along with the shopping plaza. [0:57:13, 0:57:15]: The property and zone and history. [0:57:16, 0:57:36]: So the subject property was originally part of the master development plan, center of Stockbridge, with Walmart as a mixed use mixed use development for a total of 70.16 acres. The property was annexed by the city of Stockbridge in 2002, with the subject site as being part of the master plan as track two. Tracks one and two were [0:57:36, 0:57:50]: were annexed as C two and C three. And then tracks one and two were further subdivided on February fourth, twenty twenty four, which created a new tract, and that became Walmart. The real t the track two would become a standalone [0:57:52, 0:58:12]: Parcel for future development. The master development plan initially allowed the subject sites to have access from Hudson Bridge Road, but the art parcels were later created and this removed the site access to Hudson Bridge Road. A DRI was completed on the master development plan, including the subject site on November twenty first, twenty two. [0:58:12, 0:58:30]: two thousand three and a development agreement was prepared. And according to the DRI, the site shall be mixed use and contain a minimum of two hundred residential units and a maximum of three hundred and forty three thousand square feet of commercial retail space. However, DRI officials stated that DRI conditions have no effect after ten years. [0:58:33, 0:58:53]: In addition, there was a partial split with the East Mint creation, and that was by Wolverton and Associates of Duluth, Georgia. And that was part of the final subdivision plat for uh the Broad Street Stockbridge LLC. It showed that the subject property, which is shown here, was split into two tracks with track one representing the conversation. [0:58:53, 0:59:13]: Current boundaries of site and track two being cut off from the site. This resulted in track one using this access from Hudson Bridge Drive. However, ten easements were created along and adjacent to Hudson Bridge Drive, which included an easement to allow a portion of Hudson Drive, which is a private street, and which is actually contained within the boundaries of the subject site to be used. [0:59:13, 0:59:16]: by the public for access to the surrounding commercial properties. [0:59:18, 0:59:25]: And it says the Hudson Bridge Drive is located within the site boundaries. It's confirmed today by the aerial photo of the site from the Henry County tax assistance. [0:59:28, 0:59:35]: As far as the development information, the applicant is proposing to build one hundred and forty town homes [0:59:35, 0:59:55]: One hundred and one forty small units and thirty-nine large units with six point eight seven units per acre. Forty one percent of the site area will be designated as open space with forty-one parking spaces being provided. A swimming pool, clubhouse, and guest parking would be provided as well. A twenty five foot buffer [0:59:56, 1:00:06]: will be provided on the western boundary and a fifty foot undisturbed stream buffer will be designated on the western boundary. In addition, the smaller units will have one car garage [1:00:08, 1:00:11]: And the larger town home building will have two car garages. [1:00:15, 1:00:35]: And as far as the traffic impact study, this traffic impact study was prepared by SCI Engineering Inc. and Akinpora Traffic, which stated that acceptable traffic conditions were found at all the traffic count locations. The traffic study also projected that the proposed townhomes would generate 1016 trips. [1:00:35, 1:00:40]: per weekday including sixty seven in the morning and eighty trips in the afternoon. [1:00:44, 1:00:47]: And this is the proposed side plan. [1:00:53, 1:00:57]: And this is the smaller town home buildings, which is twenty feet wide with one car garages. [1:01:01, 1:01:05]: And this is the larger town home buildings, which is twenty four feet wide with two car garages. [1:01:09, 1:01:29]: And as far as the townhoundhome lot details, all 140 townhomes will be 100 feet deep. And there will be 101 larger yachts lots, 71% of the total, and 39 lots. The larger townhome units will be twenty-four feet wide and have two car garages, while the smaller townhome units would have would be twenty feet wide and have [1:01:29, 1:01:30]: Mone car garages. [1:01:32, 1:01:36]: Which goes into the presentation for the CP twenty four dash zero one. [1:01:39, 1:01:59]: And the applicant is requesting a comp plan amendment to change the subject property's future land use designation from medium density mixed use to medium density residential, which will allow for the construction of the 140 Channel Home Development. The current land use designation of medium density is compatible with the applicant's requested result. [1:01:59, 1:02:08]: Of the property to MFR. And in addition, the current landing destination of medium mix is incompatible with the applicant's request resulting of the property, MFR. [1:02:10, 1:02:13]: And this is the future land use map. The [1:02:15, 1:02:21]: The area is surrounded by medium density on the left side, which is Henry County, high density mixed use. [1:02:22, 1:02:27]: Which is over here, and high density residential, which is down here, with in in orange. [1:02:30, 1:02:33]: And these are the surrounding land use designations as mentioned. [1:02:34, 1:02:54]: You have property to the north, which is St. Ives, high density residential, along with the St. Margaret subdivisions, and you have property to the south, which is medium density mixed use, and high density residential for the Hudson Bridge townhomes. And the properties to the east, you have the Jason Shopping Center with medium density mixed use, and the property to the west, which is the Oakwood Village Center. [1:02:54, 1:03:00]: Subdivision, medium density residential, and along with the Oakwood Manor Subdivision, which is also medium density residential. [1:03:03, 1:03:16]: And the surrounding this is the surrounding land use destiny range. The ranges from one to four and a half units per acre. Therefore the six point seven eight six point eight seven units per acre is acceptable. [1:03:18, 1:03:38]: And the key points from the staff analysis is that it's consistent with the current comp plan, 24 to 28 comp plan, and will be compatible with the MDR MDR medium density residential, which is the Oakwood Manor Subdivision. And it's unlikely that the type of uses on the current medium density mixed. [1:03:38, 1:03:39]: This will be developed. [1:03:44, 1:03:48]: And staff recommends approval for the comp plan. C P twenty four dash zero one. [1:03:54, 1:04:14]: Gordon, before you go on, let me go ahead and read the rezoning into the record, please. So that's item four on everyone's uh notes here. So this is RZ-2024-01. Rezoning case, RZ two zero two four zero one to be located in council district five. Consideration of requests to rezone the property on the north side of [1:04:14, 1:04:22]: Heights and Bridge Drive comprising parcel zero three two dash zero. Uh could you read both the resultant and the variance to into the record? [1:04:22, 1:04:23]: Yes, I will. [1:04:24, 1:04:27]: You're speaking of item five, the variants? Okay. [1:04:31, 1:04:51]: Again, comprising parcel number 032-010-2600 from C2, General Commercial Zoning District to MFR, multiple family residential zoning district to allow for the construction of a townhome development. The property also lies within the PMU, which is the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. [1:04:51, 1:05:11]: The applicant again is Lanier Georgia LLC agent as battle law PC. The property is located in line lot twenty-one of District 6, contains 20.367 acres. And again, per request, we'll go ahead and read item five, which is the variance case. Number VR 2024-03. [1:05:11, 1:05:31]: Also to be located in Council District 5. Variance request number one, consideration of a variance request for two variances on property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, comprising parcel number 032-010-2600 to allow for the construction of a townhome development. [1:05:31, 1:05:41]: Variance request number one would reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the required fifty feet to twenty feet. The property also lies within the PMU. [1:05:42, 1:05:56]: which is the uh Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. The applicant again is Lanier Georgia. LLC Asian is Battle Law PC. The property again is located in landlot twenty-one of district six and contains twenty point three six seven acres. [1:05:58, 1:06:02]: All right. Thank you. Okay. Go ahead. Thank you. All right. [1:06:07, 1:06:09]: So item number [1:06:12, 1:06:13]: Shall we read six? [1:06:13, 1:06:14]: Okay. [1:06:16, 1:06:36]: Item six is also variance, variance case VR two zero two four-zero three to be located in Council District Five. Variance request number two, consideration of a variance request for two variances on property on the north side of Hutchin Bridge Drive comprising parcel number zero three two-one zero. [1:06:36, 1:06:56]: 26000 to allow for the construction of a townhome development. Variants request number two would reduce the side yard setbacks of the townhome lots between buildings from the required 15 to 10 feet. The property also lies within the PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. The applicant again is Lanier Georgia. LLC, the agent is Battle Law PC. [1:06:56, 1:07:02]: The property is located in landlot twenty-one of District Six and contains twenty point three six seven acres. [1:07:04, 1:07:05]: Thank you. Thank you. [1:07:07, 1:07:10]: So this is the presentation for R Z twenty four dash zero one. [1:07:12, 1:07:22]: With the applicants applicants request to rezone the property from C two, General Commercial, to MFR to allow for the townhome development with one hundred and forty units. [1:07:25, 1:07:31]: So this is the twenty-four um the zoning map. The area is surrounded by C two. [1:07:33, 1:07:43]: C three, MFR, which is the St. Ives, and the Hudson Bridge Townhomes, RM, which is residential multifamily, the Oakwood subdivision, [1:07:44, 1:07:50]: Manor and R D Residential Duplex, which is also the Oqu Oak Manor. [1:07:55, 1:07:59]: And this is the overlay district map which shows the property being located in it. [1:08:03, 1:08:23]: And the key points from the staff report that we analyzed. Um overall it's consistent with the twenty point four comp plan. And as far as the positive effects, um the business in the surrounding area could generate revenue from the townhome development. Residents will have convenient access to the adjacent commercial areas. [1:08:26, 1:08:43]: A twenty five foot buffer, fence, and tall trees shall be provided along the western property line to prevent the Oakwood Manor Subdivision and a secondary access at the northwest corner onto Oakwood Drive should be used for emergency access only with a lock gate. [1:08:45, 1:08:50]: And that water could be made available with sewer line extension, which the developer would need to fund. [1:08:58, 1:09:18]: And staff staff recommends approve approval with conditions for RC twenty-four-zero one. The first one is the comprehensive plan amendment. The requested this requested resilience shall not be approved unless the applicant requested comprehensive plan via 24-01 to change the subject property. [1:09:18, 1:09:38]: Land new designation from medium density mixed use to medium density residential is approved before or simultaneously with the approval of RZ24-01. The site plan A. The subject property shall be developed according to a revised site plan, which is similar to but including required variants. [1:09:38, 1:09:58]: To the site plan, which was prepared by Moore Bass Consultant on February 29th, 2024, representing sheet number A135510.010 SP1. The title is Hudson Bridge Townhome, Stockbridge, Georgia. Any major deviations in the number of residential units. [1:09:57, 1:10:02]: The density or the overall site design shall require City Council approval. [1:10:03, 1:10:23]: B. The site access This shall be a gated community with both site accesses having gates plus flop cameras for security purposes. In addition, the proposed secondary access to Oakwood Drive shall be reserved for use by emergency vehicles only. All this information shall be noted. [1:10:23, 1:10:43]: on a side plan. C. Internal streets. All internal streets shall be of widths that are acceptable to the fire marshal. D. Internal sidewalks. All internal streets shall have sidewalks on both sides of the streets, which are at least eight feet wide. E. Amenities and related facilities. [1:10:43, 1:11:03]: The revised site plan shall include a male kiosk, an eight foot wide multi use path or walking trail, and a dog park, plus appropriate additional amenities for a community of this size such as a grill area, a playground, a shuffleboard court, a tennis court, a pickleball court, etc. [1:11:03, 1:11:23]: F central trash facility. The revised site plan shall include the location of one or more central trash facilities. G bedroom information The revised site plan shall provide a breakdown of the number of units by the number of bedrooms as well as the sizes of the bedrooms for parking hours. [1:11:23, 1:11:43]: Parking space requirements. H. Parking. Sufficient parking shall be provided to meet the requirements of the Unified Development Code. I Western Buffer Fence and Talk Trees. The developers shall provide the required 25-foot zoning buffer along the western side of the property adjacent to the Oakwood. [1:11:42, 1:11:47]: Wood Manor Subdivision along with the installation of a fence and tall trees. [1:11:49, 1:12:00]: Three, one car garage townhome units. A. Only twenty percent of the townhome units shall have one car garages. B all one car garages shall have full brick elevations. [1:12:01, 1:12:21]: Four, external sidewalk. The existing sidewalk along Hudson Bridge Drive shall be extended into the main project entrance. Five, water and sewer facilities. The developers shall comply with all requirements of the Henry County Water Authority in providing adequate water and sewer facilities to the subject site. [1:12:21, 1:12:24]: To assert the proposed town home development. [1:12:25, 1:12:45]: Six, environmental site preservation. The developers shall preserve the sensitive environmental features of the site, including the slopes, creeks, stream buff areas, and a retaining wall along with the eastern side of the site. Seven, easements. The developers shall comply with the specifications of the [1:12:45, 1:13:03]: of all easement agreements pertaining to the portion of Hudson Bridge Drive, which lies with, within, and adjacent to the subject property. And eight, a townhomes association shall be established or a property management company shall be secured for the purpose of maintaining all common areas of the site. [1:13:08, 1:13:12]: And this is the presentation for VR twenty four Dash Zero three. [1:13:14, 1:13:31]: The applicant has submitted a variance application to request a reduction in the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the MFR's district required fifty feet to twenty feet, and to reduce the side yard setbacks between townhome buildings from the required twenty feet to ten feet. [1:13:34, 1:13:43]: So the required versus the proposed setbacks and the request is MFR districts. So these are the MFR setback requirements, which you can see on the left side. [1:13:45, 1:14:00]: And the proposed setbacks, which is in the front yard setback and the side yard setback, and was the rear yard setback. So the front yard setback does not meet the MFR requirements along with with the side yard setbacks, while the rear yard setback does. [1:14:05, 1:14:05]: Let's see. [1:14:11, 1:14:17]: And the staff analysis. So section ten point one three of the Union Development Code for variance request one. [1:14:23, 1:14:38]: So the as far as the quest for the first one, the property the key points from the staff analysis was that the property has a unique shape with creek wetlands and a large drop off in the southeast, which makes the areas unbuildable, resulting in the fewer proposed units. [1:14:40, 1:14:52]: There is no apparent reason for re granting a front yard setback reduction down to twenty feet and it won't be compatible with the single family neighboring properties in the West, which is the Oakwood Manor. [1:14:53, 1:15:05]: And the physical physical characteristics, which are the creek, floodplain, and step steep topography, are not the results of the applicant, but it doesn't justify a reduction of the front yard setback. [1:15:07, 1:15:17]: And the fourth, um this will be greater than any other deduction previously granted for other properties, and that will therefore be a sp special privilege. [1:15:22, 1:15:40]: And as far as the request number two, um the stopridge city council has approved SAD setback reduction in the past five years, but the applicant hasn't demonstrated the necessit n necessity for such reduction. And without granting the variants, the land could still be used for building a smaller townhome development with larger [1:15:42, 1:15:43]: But fewer autonomous units. [1:15:45, 1:15:55]: And no apparent re there will be no apparent reason for granting a side yard reduction from fifteen to ten feet. The reduction of only five feet is not as significant. [1:15:56, 1:16:16]: So as far as the staff recommendation, the first variance request number one, the denial of the app denial of the applicants to reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the required fifty feet to only twenty feet in the MFR zoning district, and B the approval of the reduction in the front yard setbacks of the town. [1:16:16, 1:16:27]: Thomas Home Lots to thirty feet. And as far as the second variance request, that will be approved of this request to reduce the side yard setbacks from the required fifteen feet to ten feet to proposed townhome lots. [1:16:31, 1:16:33]: And that would clear the presentation for the first case. [1:16:37, 1:16:38]: Thank you. [1:16:40, 1:16:53]: Okay, with that I'd like to ask if there's any representation from uh Lanaire Georgia or their agent, Bell L S C. If you would please step forward. State your name and your address, please. [1:17:00, 1:17:08]: Good evening. My name is Josh Mahoney and I'm an attorney at Battle Law PC. Address three five six two Habisham at North Lake in Tucker, Georgia. [1:17:08, 1:17:09]: You all hear me okay? [1:17:10, 1:17:25]: Excellent. It's great to see you all this evening. I'm really happy to be here to discuss this proposal with you all. This property has kind of a storied history, I think. Originally this property was part of the DRI. [1:17:25, 1:17:37]: That went along with Walmart. And this piece of property in particular was meant to be the residential portion of that overall development, with Walmart being the commercial anchor. [1:17:38, 1:17:48]: And this parcel being the residential support uh that would go along to help the Walmart and what would as we know become the surrounding commercial uses. [1:17:49, 1:18:09]: Unfortunately, to this day, it does remain vacant. However, our application is seeking to capitalize on that vision and bring it to fruition. And so what we've done is we've submitted a future land use amendment, rezoning, and a couple of variances to try to to make that plan happen. [1:18:09, 1:18:22]: We're submitting a future land use amendment from medium density mixed use to medium density residential, a rezoning from C two to MFR, and variances to reduce some setbacks, as uh the planning staff have pointed out. [1:18:23, 1:18:43]: Um I'm sure you're all aware of the location of this property just west of Walmart and north of the Taco Bell behind QT on Hudson Bridge. Um this is a property that that I have driven past growing up in the area and never really paid attention to it because it looked like a bunch of trees. Um but it's interesting to see, it's interesting. [1:18:43, 1:19:00]: interesting to see the history of this and and how it was a part of Walmart's um DRI process. So zooming in first on the rezoning application, um this is this is an image of Stockbridge's uh zoning map. [1:19:01, 1:19:10]: And as you can see, the property is currently zoned C2. Um the property is zoned C2, but it's also adjacent to some single-family homes. And so [1:19:11, 1:19:26]: What's allowed today is much more intense than what we're proposing. Um anyone, a commercial developer, could come along and put up a a C2 use next to the existing single family homes. And we don't feel that that is an appropriate [1:19:26, 1:19:27]: Um [1:19:28, 1:19:40]: kind of use to butt up against single family detached. What we propose instead is a what's a pretty common practice across the nation, a transition from the intense commercial uses to the East. [1:19:40, 1:19:41]: Down to [1:19:41, 1:19:58]: uh town homes or something like that, like what we're proposing, into the less intense single family detached homes. And what you get here is a ramping down of uses, um, but you're still kind of addressing the need for housing um to fuel that commercial node. [1:20:00, 1:20:18]: Um luckily for us, there's already some MFR zoning districts in the area immediately to the north of the subject property and south of the subject property across Hudson Bridge Road. So we're not introducing a new zoning district to the area. We're just continuing the trend that is on this uh western portion of the city. [1:20:21, 1:20:38]: Looking now at the future land use map, we are proposing uh medium density residential. Again, we've got high density residential already in the area, so we're not bringing anything more intense than what's already there. Uh just need to switch that out so that the MFR district is compatible. [1:20:40, 1:20:43]: We talked about the site plan already with the planning staff. [1:20:43, 1:20:45]: Um some things I do want to point out. [1:20:47, 1:20:48]: You can really start to see [1:20:50, 1:21:10]: On the on the um this is actually the eastern side of the property, it's flipped on its side here. Uh there's a stream that runs along the length of the property, and with the stream comes a stream buffer, 75 feet on either side of the stream from the point of rested vegetation, 150 feet total. That eats up a lot of [1:21:10, 1:21:27]: a lot of this property um and taking into account that piece plus the topography of the site and the strange shape of the site, it really makes it a difficult property to develop, which is probably why it's remained vacant for so long. [1:21:27, 1:21:33]: Um considering it's zoned commercially as well, it's probably also c a contributing factor to its vacancy. [1:21:34, 1:21:46]: Um but this plan uses the available space and uses it uh to bring about that the vision that was put forth under the Walmart DRI. Uh we are at this time proposing a clubhouse. [1:21:47, 1:21:47]: Pool [1:21:48, 1:21:50]: And a playground. [1:21:54, 1:22:04]: Here we've got some renderings. This is this is a um aerial rendering of what the site will look like, as well as a rendering of what the pool area will look like behind the clubhouse. [1:22:07, 1:22:27]: Top left here is a rendering of the of the clubhouse from the front. And we've got some updated elevations and um updated since the last time we were able to to speak to the staff. Um so what you see on the bottom here are the two car garage units, and on the top right here are what the one car garage uh units are gonna look like. [1:22:30, 1:22:31]: And then last but not least [1:22:33, 1:22:41]: I have a fly through video for you all to to take a look at. This will be kind of what it's like to drive through the community. Uh we'll see if it plays for us. [1:22:45, 1:22:45]: Mm-hmm. [1:22:51, 1:22:59]: It may be that we have to go without the video this evening, but I'm happy to share that with you all should you like to see it. I have it on my computer and I can forward that to you after this meeting. [1:23:00, 1:23:04]: I'd like to take a moment since that's the end of my oh, here we go. We got it. [1:23:06, 1:23:17]: So this is kind of what it would look like if you have the just off screen here the um clubhouse. So this is what it would be like to come into the subdivision here. Excuse me, the neighborhood here. [1:23:31, 1:23:51]: So the developer is using kind of a mixture of facades to break up the unit so you can tell one from the other. I know in some townhome communities that is an issue where you have a kind of monotonous cookie cutter look. Uh it doesn't look good. Um so we're using a mixture of materials, colors, things like that to break up that. [1:23:51, 1:24:03]: That monotony that you might get, and also using a mixture of high-quality materials like brick and board and batten. Here's the clubhouse, coming at it from the side, like as if you were going to the pool. [1:24:10, 1:24:13]: And then of course here's the pool that the folks will be able to enjoy. [1:24:24, 1:24:44]: So I'm actually gonna pause the video there. I'd like to take my remaining time to try to address some of the conditions that staff mentioned in their report. Um for the most part, my client does accept um the conditions. However, there are a few that are pain points for us that we do need to discuss. [1:24:44, 1:24:45]: Um [1:24:46, 1:25:02]: One is that the planning staff are requiring that we have centralized trash receptacles. That won't be necessary. We're actually going to use curb pickup. So each unit will have a uh big green bin that they can put at the curb and that'll be picked up. So there's no need for a centralized facility. [1:25:05, 1:25:07]: Um the other pain point for us is [1:25:08, 1:25:28]: Uh per the conditions, we're being required to have eight-foot wide sidewalks throughout the internal on the internal streets of the development. This is above and beyond what the code requires. The code requires five-foot sidewalks, and we are happy to supply five-foot sidewalks throughout the entirety. Uh it wasn't really made clear why we are being asked. [1:25:28, 1:25:48]: Asked to do eight-foot wide sidewalks when we're already cramped for space and asking for variances to make more space. I'm not sure. I know that we're not able to accommodate an eight-foot-wide sidewalk, but what we can do is towards the front of the development where the clubhouse would connect into Hudson Bridge Drive, we could put an eight-foot [1:25:48, 1:25:59]: sidewalk there so folks would when they're traveling from the clubhouse up to Walmart would have a big, nice, wide sidewalk that they could enjoy that would include widening the existing sidewalk. [1:26:00, 1:26:01]: On Hudson Bridge Drive. [1:26:03, 1:26:15]: Uh lastly, there was a condition that was um asking that only twenty percent of the townhomes be one car garage uh and that they be full brick facades. [1:26:17, 1:26:35]: If we were to abide by that kit condition per the language, we would lose so many units that the the deal would would die essentially. So that's not something that we can do. What we can do though is we can do three sided brick on the one side on the one car garage units, uh, but we can't do the the percentage piece. [1:26:39, 1:26:51]: Um but with that I ask that you all would consider uh approving, recommending approval of these applications this evening. Uh I'm happy to take any questions and I'll reserve any time I have uh for rebuttal. Thank you. [1:26:56, 1:27:05]: Any questions from the board? May I speak chairman? Yes, go ahead, Harold. Uh you were speaking about the uh sidewalks from five feet to eight feet. [1:27:05, 1:27:25]: Have you ever considered the fact that they might want a golf cart to roll through there, or you may have a bunch of senior citizens and they may want to ride up to Walmart? Uh I would think that might be the reason why they want you to go from five to eight feet. That may be the consideration and I'm not sure about that, okay? [1:27:26, 1:27:31]: Yeah, I'm not sure I'm not sure why or what the reasoning is behind that. Um [1:27:33, 1:27:34]: I think [1:27:35, 1:27:55]: If folks are trying to drive a a golf cart through the development, they could do that in the roadway. I actually don't think Georgia State Law allows for vehicles on sidewalks. Um I ran into that when I was in college. Uh a police officer told me to get my bike off the the d the sidewalk actually. So um I don't think state law would allow for a a [1:27:55, 1:28:05]: golf cart. But um if if the city does allow that, they could certainly take advantage of the connection from the clubhouse up to Walmart uh once they can get to the front of the development. [1:28:08, 1:28:28]: Thank you, Chair. I have a uh a plethora of questions. One, I I just have to say um I have to agree with one of your statements. It definitely looks like a cram development. Um, like you're cramming it into the property, and that's one of my hugest concerns. Um one on top of a few questions. Could you just tell me because I don't think I heard the number when Gordon was [1:28:28, 1:28:34]: Speaking, he was going a little fast. What was the number out of the 140 that are for small town homes and large? [1:28:35, 1:28:39]: One hundred and one are twenty foot wide and the ballads are the twenty four foot. [1:28:41, 1:28:45]: Okay. Thank you. Um [1:28:47, 1:28:56]: So I I I know that area. I I'm I born and raised in Stockbridge. So I grew up in that area. And um one of the biggest things for me is when I looked at the site plan [1:28:57, 1:29:17]: You're taking you have two two accesses to the the property, which congratulations, we gotta have that anyway, but you have the one on Hudson Bridge Drive, which that hill or that turn is already concerning to multiple people on multiple levels. One. And then two, the second one you have, it goes right into the adjacent [1:29:17, 1:29:27]: community. So let's say it's a fire in your community, right? The fire department would have to hit Flippin' Road, which is already traffic junction 247. [1:29:28, 1:29:33]: to then hit that neighborhood to then come into your property. Is that correct? [1:29:34, 1:29:54]: No, that's not correct. Okay. The fire department would have access. They would have access from either either access. So they could access from Hudson Bridge Drive or Oakwood Manor. Um but the access through Oakwood Manor is only to be used in the event that access through Hudson Bridge Drive is not available. So will that be dated? Yes. Okay. Cool. [1:29:54, 1:29:56]: That was another one of my questions. [1:29:58, 1:30:15]: Mm. And I'm glad you said uh uh a that they are requiring this we love our staff, but they're requiring a full brick um setback around the entire town home because th being on that hill and with that creek, you're definitely gonna want that. Um but another thing I wanted to ask you was [1:30:16, 1:30:36]: Two two last questions for me at least. Um homeless in that forest, because I we know a lot of we don't see a lot of the homeless in Stockbridge, but we know for a fact they're in the the trees, they're in the forest. And even though it may look like a nice community, we do live in a great community. We do have a homeless issue we that we have to address at a city level. I'm not saying that's something [1:30:36, 1:30:56]: That you all have to address. But if you're going to build this development, what is it going to cost for those that are living around that area? Because all of that is going to be moving. Like, did you all do an impact study in regards to that? And like, so homelessness and crime, because that is consort of Cam City. Hudson Bridge is kind of tedious there. So did y'all address that at all? [1:30:56, 1:31:16]: So I'm I'm not aware of any homeless uh folks who are living on the property. And I'm I don't believe that the applicant is aware of that either. However, uh if they are there, then I mean they're not supposed to be there. That would be trespassing. Um so we did not take that into consideration when doing an impact study. I don't I don't think that's [1:31:16, 1:31:20]: [5480.2, 5498.3]: It's n it's not. I just wanted to see if you all took that full advantage'cause regardless of if you're coming into the city, you know it is a community and we are a community based city uh at whole. But what's the price meme as well? That's gonna be my last what's gonna be y'all price point for sure. Yeah, they well using today's projections they would range between three hundred and thirty and three hundred and sixty thousand. [1:31:40, 1:31:41]: Okay, that's all I have chair. Thank you. [1:31:43, 1:31:54]: May I speak, Mr. Chair? Yes, sir. Um very much aware that uh you guys have fenced that in. They did have issues with homeless people in that area at one time. [1:31:54, 1:31:59]: uh that was a haven for bad behavior at one time. Um [1:31:59, 1:32:00]: Uh [1:32:00, 1:32:12]: There was a lot of issues with that property when it comes to homeless. So I just want you to make make you clear of that that we've had some issues with that particular piece of property when it comes to homeless. [1:32:13, 1:32:17]: Thank you. And I I d I would to that I would say [1:32:21, 1:32:41]: If we if we're if someone is able to develop the property, um homeless folks would not be able to access it and just walk around uh without anybody noticing. So having a development there, having eyes on the street uh would cut down on any bad behavior coming from from uh anybody who's trying to get through that property or anything. [1:32:41, 1:32:42]: [5566.2, 5567.4]: Any other questions from the board? [1:32:49, 1:33:09]: Yes. I I'm I'm all in favor of having this property zoned for residential rather than commercial. My only question is though, have you given consideration to the intersection of Hudson Bridge Drive where it enters into your property in any kind of traffic control device? By the traffic study, the amount of vehicles [1:33:09, 1:33:23]: vehicle traffic in and out of your development is going to be quite high. And right now if you know that intersection is a cluster as it is when the light turns red going out on the Hudson Bridge. [1:33:23, 1:33:43]: And people want to turn into the Taco Bell or Quick Trip or the Bottle Shop, and then you have people coming in and out of that alley, that that small piece of road right there that curves up to the shopping center, it is a traffic jam. And you add more hundred cars to that, if there's not some kind of [1:33:43, 1:33:51]: traffic control device, I think, at that intersection where all three of those roads meet, it is going to be horrendous. [1:33:53, 1:34:05]: So okay, that that's that's very interesting. I am familiar with the intersection. I I grew up uh not far from here and I used to frequent and get my gas there at the quick trip. So I know what you're talking about. Um [1:34:06, 1:34:26]: So when folks are exiting and entering the subject property, they would actually have two ways to do it. Um, not through Oakwood, that's gonna be gated. They could go out Hudson Drive, uh, excuse me, Hudson Bridge Drive, onto Hudson Bridge Road, and try to take a left or a right. Um, there's actually uh I'm sure you're aware. [1:34:26, 1:34:46]: So if if traffic is backing up on Hudson Bridge Drive, folks can detour thinking people are gonna make a left turn out of your [1:34:46, 1:35:01]: Development onto that road to use the stoplight at Walmart to come out. It's an option. And I what I'm what I'm trying to say is yeah, there's good road connectivity here so that folks can go in and out at different locations to try to alleviate that one intersection. [1:35:01, 1:35:21]: Okay. Drive and and Hudson Bridge Road. So it's too close to have another stoplight within the vicinity of that stoplight out onto a main artery. And I just see traffic in that area being terrible. Oh I'm not suggesting that I'm not sure. [1:35:21, 1:35:41]: I'm suggesting using the infrastructure that's in place. Right. So if folks are trying to get out uh from this development and turn right on Hudson Bridge Road, what they could do is actually start by turning left on Hudson Bridge Drive, working their way over to where there's a right in, right out, take that right, and actually I don't know if you can see. [1:35:41, 1:35:45]: the screen, it would kind of come over here and then come back this way. [1:35:46, 1:36:06]: Well, unfortunately that's really the only other option, but I don't think it would be very beneficial because you're gonna back up that stoplight then coming out of Walmart with the additional hundred cars coming out of that neighborhood, you know, going to work wherever they go. So it it that really needs to be evaluated. Uh like I said, I'm in favor of developing [1:36:06, 1:36:25]: at residential, but that area really needs to be evaluated. And there are three parcels of property that merge right there. So before any improvements could be done, um the property acquisition would have to take place. Sure. Whereas whoever did the development wouldn't would own all the pieces that are involved right there. [1:36:25, 1:36:45]: Well what I can say is we we do have a traffic study. Um and the study told us in the morning time um trip generation would be about I I think it was um forty or fifty trips in the morning. Is that better? So during the AM peak hour, I think the traffic study was set. [1:36:45, 1:37:05]: Saying something like 40 or 50 trips and it was a bit higher in the evening, closer to 60 or 70 trips. Um but the the impact study did say that traffic even with the development would be comparable to the no-build situation. Um just that's a slight increase in traffic, of course, with with new new development, uh, but nothing that would. [1:37:05, 1:37:19]: completely derail uh the traffic situation as it is or as it's projected to be with one exception uh and it did have some some recommendations to alleviate that and that's something that we're willing to commit to. [1:37:20, 1:37:40]: Yeah, I think at a minimum they would have to adjust the timing on the stoplight green light coming out of Hudson Bridge Drive to allow for more traffic to exit that area because right now it's ten cars. That's all that can get out of there in between the stoplights. So that's something the DOT would have to look at. And we're we're certainly. [1:37:40, 1:37:43]: Okay. [1:37:44, 1:37:44]: Thank you. [1:37:45, 1:38:05]: Any other questions from the board? One more thing, Tier. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Mr. Williams. Thank you. Um I I definitely have to have to uh second what my commissioner on the other side uh said to you. That's definitely one of the more concerning parts. And I if we're gonna uh you're not selling it for me, if we wanna sell it, you saying the multiple parts of I know we think [1:38:05, 1:38:25]: They can they're gonna turn left, but typically when we're leaving the house and we're trying to get to where we need to go, we're gonna find the fastest route and that's gonna be that right, right there to stop sign or the red light to turn left or right to go where we need to go. Um but I did have one more question. Your traffic impact study, I know it was submitted to the office on June in June. Was it conducted in [1:38:25, 1:38:26]: In June as well. [1:38:27, 1:38:47]: Oh, it's been a while. I'd have to double check that. Okay. Um if you're asking about school traffic, this traffic engineer in particular always factors in school traffic. Uh he has collected school traffic data for the past several years. So even if school's not in, he factors it in and increases it by about five percent just in case. Okay. I just wanted to make sure because we are, you know, we we have news. [1:38:47, 1:39:07]: Because they have recently just opened and less than a week ago. Yeah. So we want to make sure when we're talking about tra uh traffic studies in regards to the school hours as well that we're adding those new additional schools that have added bus routes and car routes like that as well. Um but that's all I have, Chair. All right, five questions from the school. Mr. Chairman, can I ask just one question? [1:39:07, 1:39:11]: Is there just one entrance and exit from that property? [1:39:12, 1:39:18]: No. So here I'll pull up the site plan one more time. We're showing two [1:39:19, 1:39:19]: Points. [1:39:21, 1:39:32]: of ingress and egress. So this down here, this is Hudson Bridge Drive, and this would be the main access. We're showing access on Oakwood Manor. [1:39:32, 1:39:34]: However, this is going to be gated. [1:39:35, 1:39:41]: and only accessible by emergency vehicles in the event that access is not available off of Hudson Bridge Drive. [1:39:42, 1:39:48]: And so the the purpose there is uh really when we were talking to the fire marshal, he told us we had to have two entrances. [1:39:49, 1:40:02]: Um for safety purposes. However, we didn't want to have to we didn't want to impact the folks at Oakwood Manor by having our traffic divert through their neighborhood. D we didn't think that was fair. A compromise that we came up with with the fire marshal is gate that. [1:40:03, 1:40:18]: Uh staff has recommended that we gate that. We're happy to do that. Uh we think it makes the most sense uh for making sure folks from this development don't go into the neighboring development um and still ha still still meeting the fire marshal where where he needs us to be. [1:40:20, 1:40:20]: Thank you. [1:40:22, 1:40:42]: Mr. Chairman, if I could add one more thing, one more statement. Yes, Mr. Cobb. Anticipating some residents moving in there that have children and there would be children going to school. Um, by the look at the map, there's no way a school bus is going to be able to navigate inside that neighborhood, which means a lot of kids are gonna have to walk down to Hudson. [1:40:42, 1:40:45]: Bridge Drive for a school bus to pick them up down there. [1:40:46, 1:41:06]: So the roadways here are going to be designed to city standards which have to accommodate accommodate a fire truck. They'll also be able to accommodate a school bus. Uh in the event that a school bus kind of tries to consolidate the pickup point, that was that's what they did for me when I was a kid. Um I would recommend the clubhouse for having having [1:41:06, 1:41:15]: having students consolidate there. Um so that way the bus could get in, kind of use the the turnaround there to quickly pick children up and turn right back around and get out. [1:41:16, 1:41:31]: I know this property is uphill from Hudson Bridge Drive, where you it meets Taco Bell and the filling station. Yeah. Um what kind of a grade do you think they're going to have to climb to get into the property from from there up to [1:41:31, 1:41:32]: Yeah. [1:41:32, 1:41:33]: So [1:41:34, 1:41:51]: To be the short answer is I don't exactly know what the grade is. Um I I was speaking with my engineer today and when he was talking about grading, he mentioned only having to grade um a small amount of land over here in the southeast corner of the plan. Um [1:41:52, 1:41:53]: The rest of it's kind of okay. [1:41:53, 1:42:00]: Okay. Yeah. But I can get that number from you or for you. I just have to reach out to my engineer to get the exact grade for you. [1:42:07, 1:42:09]: Alright, any final questions from the board? [1:42:11, 1:42:20]: Okay, if not, we're gonna open it up to the community. Again, if you are in favor of the application, we ask that you form to your left. [1:42:21, 1:42:24]: Please make sure that you sign the um board. [1:42:26, 1:42:30]: Okay, if you are opposed, we ask that you line up to the right. [1:42:32, 1:42:33]: Okay. Yeah. [1:42:34, 1:42:54]: Please make sure she's speaking to the microphone. State your name and your address, please. We'll do. I'm Tim Callahan. I live at 146 Oakwood Circle, uh immediately adjacent to the subject property. Um this property does have a storied history, and and at you know, using some of the words that uh were mentioned at the uh community information meeting that was [1:42:54, 1:43:00]: is inappropriately dated on the battle law notice as the eighth. Um [1:43:01, 1:43:02]: They are squeezing. [1:43:02, 1:43:05]: Every bit out of this. And I want to unpack that a little bit. [1:43:06, 1:43:09]: Well let's start with the fact that there is a thirty to forty foot drop. [1:43:09, 1:43:13]: From the upper side of the property behind our homes down to the creek. [1:43:14, 1:43:23]: They showed a very level fly-through with easily forty foot driveways. That's a video that's make-believe. [1:43:24, 1:43:31]: There's no way that they're going to be able to build these townhomes without half the foundations on fill and the other half on cut and retaining walls everywhere. [1:43:33, 1:43:46]: On top of that, they're talking the well I appreciate the uh planning uh employees putting planning staff putting together some good recommendations of having a buffer with tall trees. [1:43:47, 1:43:49]: This type of development will mean clear cut. [1:43:50, 1:43:51]: And then eventually plat something. [1:43:52, 1:44:05]: What kind of plant, we don't know, how long before the growth to maturity, we have no idea. So I'd like to ask for you to consider adding the idea of a no-disturb buffer as opposed to uh simply saying plant trees and put up a fence. [1:44:06, 1:44:15]: Additionally, in a traffic study, as I s noticed it, I may be wrong, it was referring to two exits and two different trip numbers for those exits. [1:44:15, 1:44:16]: One of those will be [1:44:16, 1:44:18]: Gated according to the new [1:44:18, 1:44:19]: information. [1:44:19, 1:44:23]: Which means it doubles what's coming out the other side. So instead of sixty [1:44:23, 1:44:24]: Or eighty. [1:44:24, 1:44:26]: We're looking at over a hundred trips. [1:44:27, 1:44:32]: Each of you have been to the QT, you've seen how well people respect the roadway markings on that road. [1:44:33, 1:44:34]: For where people should drive. [1:44:35, 1:44:35]: Obviously none. [1:44:36, 1:44:37]: This will compound that. [1:44:38, 1:44:52]: You've seen the turns there. I appreciate the fact that you brought it up that the turn there to go with in the Walmart area is an acute left turn, generally uh problematic, just without the extra traffic. You add this in, it's gonna compound that substantially. [1:44:55, 1:44:55]: So [1:44:58, 1:44:59]: This [1:45:00, 1:45:04]: Development does have a history. It was a Baptist church property at one point, way back when. [1:45:04, 1:45:24]: It went through a variety of different uh plans and the idea of saying, okay, we'll have this mixed use with commercial and residential. And then previous administration and management of the city allowed for an absolute massive overdevelopment of the commercial area, leaving this left as zoned commercial rather than going toward the comprehensive plan for it to eventually be rezoned. [1:45:24, 1:45:25]: It has mixed use. [1:45:27, 1:45:30]: No residential was built because it wasn't as profitable. [1:45:31, 1:45:31]: As commercial. [1:45:32, 1:45:35]: To that end, for y'all as a recommending to the city. [1:45:36, 1:45:38]: Residential property is never gonna provide [1:45:38, 1:45:40]: You a return on investment. [1:45:41, 1:45:53]: for the city, because the services that are gonna be in demand here will never be paid for by that much residential use. The fire, the police, general building inspection, all that. [1:45:53, 1:46:03]: I do hope that you consider I I like you, I'm for this being residential. I think it would be a good fit. But this density is ridiculous. [1:46:04, 1:46:08]: This density is to the point to where it's going to I [1:46:08, 1:46:16]: cause extraordinary erosion to the area, the impervious area of the roofs, the sidewalks, the ground is going to flood that [1:46:16, 1:46:17]: stream [1:46:17, 1:46:22]: Which is sensitive and polluted as it is because of simple trash coming off Walmart area. [1:46:23, 1:46:32]: With soil and debris, l yard clippings and everything else. It's gonna damage the watershed there. It's gonna end up resulting in some flooding downstream. [1:46:32, 1:46:37]: Because this yard debris and everything else will end up clogging up the culverts and so forth downstream. [1:46:38, 1:46:56]: I also recommend that you also consider while you don't make recommendations to the cities or or to the school saying, Hey, you should do this or that, I reckon I respect the fact that your job here is to ensure plan for the welfare and will and quality of life for the folks who are city of Stockbridge. [1:46:57, 1:47:09]: Part of that is a good quality schools where the kids are not overcrowded. You may have awesome teachers, you may have awesome parents. But if you have thirty kids in a school and half of them are having to sit in a trailer because of overloading, [1:47:10, 1:47:20]: It's hard for a parent to make up for that. I apologize, but we are over two minutes before we can vote to ascend the speaker's talking time. [1:47:21, 1:47:41]: Approved. One minute, please. I appreciate it. As this is three items together, four items together, I like to address them as such. The fact is is that this item is very sim this zoning was originally similar to the first item on the agenda. It was going to be a variety of different things. Great plans, great idea, but now because of the past d decisions. [1:47:41, 1:47:48]: We're having to suffer for squeezed in development trying to force it here. And the last thing I want to point out in the last two years. [1:47:49, 1:47:54]: The twenty-five percent of the homes that have sold in the last two years in the same price point. [1:47:55, 1:47:57]: Have been sold to non owner occupants. [1:47:57, 1:47:59]: Meaning they've gone to rental. [1:48:00, 1:48:06]: This property being supposedly at this price point, when adjacent properties do not meet this price point as single price. [1:48:07, 1:48:09]: А сингл девеломент хомс сингл стан хомс. [1:48:10, 1:48:12]: There's no way you can meet the price point they're re they're referring to. [1:48:14, 1:48:15]: If this place goes and [1:48:16, 1:48:16]: Gets built. [1:48:17, 1:48:25]: It's gonna be bought up by an investor like the place across the street, the that they tout as, hey, this is also a nice uh dense use. [1:48:26, 1:48:28]: Within two years of that townhome development, [1:48:28, 1:48:31]: The vast majority of those were bought up by a single owner. [1:48:34, 1:48:35]: Thank you. [1:48:40, 1:48:40]: Yes, ma'am. [1:48:46, 1:49:06]: I want to thank the uh council and the beautiful presentation from the company. My name is Jocelyn Williams. I live at 190 Banks Drive. The brand new school that was built is Birch Creek. That's where I work. We went from a projected 525. We're now at 725 students, and it is still growing. Uh my concern is [1:49:06, 1:49:18]: is the one way in and the one way out uh and the safety for the children. I'm concerned about the infrastructure and the six point eight seven per acre and the surrounding use that the um [1:49:19, 1:49:39]: uh that has been permitted by the planning and zoning, they're gonna approve it. But I just wanted to put my opposition like the other uh resident, the people that live there is going to be a nightmare. I get up at four o'clock in the morning so that I can beat the traffic and I come home at six and seven at night as a teacher. So as you're making your considerations for approval. [1:49:39, 1:49:49]: I know that we have to have places for people to live, but please listen to the residents. And I want to thank you again, once again, beautiful residential area that you're building. Thank you so much. [1:49:50, 1:49:50]: Thank you. [1:49:52, 1:49:54]: Any other comments from the community? [1:49:57, 1:50:17]: All right, with that, I would ask for a motion from the board, please. Chair. Um I'd like to thank both of the s the community speakers for speaking and kinda hitting uh some some of the points that uh we as commissioners have also hit for those that's spoken, but I would go ahead and like make rake make a recommendation for [1:50:17, 1:50:23]: us to deny um item number CP dash twenty twenty four dash oh one. [1:50:26, 1:50:34]: And Mr. Jaden, that would also include RZ twenty twenty four dash zero one. Yes, sir. Okay. Do I have a second to deny? [1:50:34, 1:50:35]: A second. [1:50:35, 1:50:40]: Mr. Thomas seconds. All in favor to deny? Aye. [1:50:43, 1:50:45]: [6645.9, 6648.3]: Three ayes to deny. [1:50:51, 1:51:00]: Okay guys, I couldn't hear you. So Thomas said aye, uh Planton and Tibetal said nay. So we have two ayes, we have two opposed, correct? [1:51:02, 1:51:08]: So I will cast the tie breaking vote. I vote opposed. The application is denied. [1:51:12, 1:51:13]: With that [1:51:14, 1:51:16]: Regarding the variances [1:51:18, 1:51:22]: VR twenty twenty four dash zero three, twenty well item six. [1:51:24, 1:51:30]: The motions and the Yes ma'am. So we had two nos. Two posed. [1:51:33, 1:51:38]: We had two approvals. I cast the tie breaking vote as a no to deny. [1:51:42, 1:51:45]: The application. Could you not hear who said it? [1:51:55, 1:52:03]: All right, as the application has been denied, I'd like a motion from the board um to defer the variances. Can I have a motion, please? [1:52:04, 1:52:05]: Yes, ma'am. [1:52:11, 1:52:13]: Understood. Thank you. Appreciate that. [1:52:16, 1:52:20]: Okay, with that we're gonna move on to item seven. [1:52:21, 1:52:41]: As regards, and I'm gonna read all three folks, just so you know. CP 202406, this is a comprehensive plan amendment case, CP 202406 to be located in Council District 5. Consideration of a request for a comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use designation of two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North. [1:52:41, 1:53:01]: South of Eagles Landing Parkway from low density mixed use to medium density residential to allow for the construction of a townhome development. The application is LI Route 23, LLC, and the agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as listed below with 13.64 total. [1:53:01, 1:53:12]: acres within the Stockbridge city limits. Parcel number 069010-09000 contains 10.61 acres of landlots one and two of districts seven and eleven. [1:53:14, 1:53:34]: Parcel 070-0100-1000-2612 Highway 42 North contains 3.03 acres in land lot one of District 7. Let me read in to the next case, which is RZ 202406, rezoning case 202406 to be located in California. [1:53:33, 1:53:53]: Council District 5, consideration of request for a rezoning to rezone two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eagles Landing Parkway from C2, General Commercial to MFR, multiple family residential to allow for the construction of a townhome development. The applicant again is L I Route 23 L L C in the A. [1:53:53, 1:54:11]: Agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels and is listed below with thirteen point six four total acres within Stockbridge City limits. Variants request VR twenty twenty-four zero six would reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the required fifty feet to thirty feet. [1:54:12, 1:54:32]: Parcel 069-010 0900 contains 10.61 acres. Landlots 1 and 2 of District 7 and 11. And parcel 070 01001000 2612. Highway 42 North contains 3.03 acres. Landlots 1 of District 7. [1:54:32, 1:54:52]: The last item is variance case VR 2024-02. To be located in Council District 5. Variance request number one: consideration of a variance request for two variants on two parcels of the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eagles Landing Parkway to allow for the construction of a townhome development variance request. [1:54:52, 1:55:12]: Question number one would reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the required 50 feet to 30 feet. The applicant is LI Route 23, LLC, and the agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. Property contains two parcels as listed below with 13.64 total acres within the Stockbridge city limits. [1:55:11, 1:55:13]: [6928.2, 6932.9]: Oh, I'm sorry. It's it's not it's on this paperwork. I apologize. [1:55:38, 1:55:58]: Variance case VR 2024-02 to be located in Council District 5. Variance request number two. Consideration of a variance request for two variances on two parcels on the east side of Highway 42 North, south of Eagles Landing Parkway to allow for the construction of a townhome development. Variance request number two would reduce the side yard setbacks of the townhome lots. [1:55:58, 1:56:18]: Between buildings from the required fifteen to ten feet. The applicant is LI Route 23, LLC, and the agent is George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The property contains two parcels as are listed below with thirteen point six four total acres within the Stockbridge city limits. The parcels are as noted 069-012-000. [1:56:18, 1:56:38]: And landlots one and two of District 711 and parcel 070. Dash 01001000, which is 2612, Highway 42 North, which contains 3.03 acres, and landlot one of District 7. [1:56:39, 1:56:40]: Thank you, Vice Chair. [1:56:43, 1:56:53]: So these are the these are the presentations for CP twenty four dash zero six, RZ twenty four dash zero six, and VR twenty four dash zero two. [1:56:55, 1:57:00]: As mentioned, the applicant is LI Route twenty-three LLC. [1:57:00, 1:57:20]: And the owner is LI Route 2020 Route 23 LLC with the agent being George Harper of Paramount Engineering. The number of proposed units per acre is 7.33, and the address of the property is 26 Highway 42 North. And zero and the parcel ID number is 0633. [1:57:20, 1:57:26]: six nine dash zero one zero zero nine thousand. The number of acres is thirteen point six four acres. [1:57:27, 1:57:36]: The characteristics of the property is that the site is currently vacant and wooded with a systems d deceleration lane and entrance on the right. [1:57:36, 1:57:47]: The current future less use land use designation is low density mixed use and the current zoning of the property is C two and the sign was posted on july sixteenth of twenty twenty four. [1:57:49, 1:57:55]: So this is the vicinity map. As you can see it's adjacent from CNC fence. [1:57:55, 1:58:15]: Who's the owner of these the the larger parcel? You have CBS, you have Elite Collision, you also have the Eagles Peak Shopping Center, which is here, and you have the Lakeside at Eagles Landing, you have Brandon's Walk, and you also have the St. Luke's Lutheran Church, and you also have the Canon Cleveland Funeral Directors, and you also [1:58:15, 1:58:20]: To have the parkside at Eagles Landing subdivision, the parkside office plaza, the [1:58:21, 1:58:23]: Parkside Plaza and the Marathon Gas Station. [1:58:26, 1:58:29]: And this is the aerial photo with the side plan as shown. [1:58:34, 1:58:37]: And this is when the sign was posted on July sixteenth, twenty twenty four. [1:58:40, 1:58:47]: And this is the existing deceleration lane that the applicant is gonna use as sho as will be shown as a side plan. [1:58:50, 1:58:59]: And further down you have Parkside Plaza. And to the right you have Elite Collision and CNC Fence, which is further down as well. [1:59:01, 1:59:05]: And to the left you have the park side of the Eagles Land subdivision. [1:59:07, 1:59:27]: As far as the zoning history of the property, the larger partial, which is shown with the green star, it was rezoned from RA, which was residential cultural, to C2 general commercial on May 6, 1997, as partial a larger property. And is in addition, the existing deceleration lane that is shown where the mouse is at the summer. [1:59:27, 1:59:30]: Subject property was completed around two thousand two. [1:59:34, 1:59:36]: The proposed development information. [1:59:38, 1:59:47]: LI Route 2023 is proposing to build a townhouse development with 100 units. The development will include a pool. [1:59:47, 1:59:55]: Playground, community mailbox, and two point eight one acres of open space. The development will utilize the [1:59:57, 2:00:16]: deceleration lane on Highway 42 North and will also install an emergency access on Highway 42 North. It will have main access from the Park View Plate subdivision and a twenty five foot buffer will be adjacent to the lakeside at Eagles Land subdivision. In addition, the community will also be gated. [2:00:19, 2:00:39]: So this is the side plan showing the uh hundred units. And over here, this is where the twenty-five foot buffer will be, to the right where my cursor is. And you also have the pool pool and the playground. And you also have the open space. And you also have the existing deceleration lane to the left. [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: And you also have the existing [2:00:43, 2:00:46]: Yeah, but existing road here that they will use as a emergency road access. [2:00:50, 2:00:53]: And so this is the close up view of the site data. [2:00:55, 2:00:57]: Estimated they will build over one hundred units. [2:01:02, 2:01:06]: And this is a rendering of the um proposed townhomes. [2:01:17, 2:01:21]: And this g now we go to the C P twenty four dash zero six. [2:01:23, 2:01:43]: The applicant's request is to change the current future land use designation from low density, medium use low density mixed use to medium density residential to allow for the proposed townhome development. Currently, the two parcels have a current future land use designation of low density mixed use, which is not compatible with the requested MFR zoning district. [2:01:43, 2:01:58]: Therefore, the applicant has requested to change the feature land use designation from low density mixed use to medium density residential. Page forty nine of the twenty four Comprehensive Plan provides a list of compatible zoning districts which includes the requested MFR zoning district. [2:02:00, 2:02:03]: And this is this comprehensive plan twenty twenty four. [2:02:05, 2:02:13]: And this is the definition of medium density residential, which is has a u density range from four units to seven point nine nine units per acre. [2:02:18, 2:02:23]: And this is the feature land use map. The area is surrounded by low density. [2:02:25, 2:02:31]: Low yeah, low density mix use, let low density residential, uh high density residential, which is shown. [2:02:32, 2:02:35]: And high density residential is shown in the orange. [2:02:40, 2:02:45]: And this is the the table showing the surrounding land use destination. [2:02:45, 2:02:52]: Once again, the majority of is low density mix use and you have high density residential and you also have high density residential as well. [2:02:58, 2:03:11]: And this is the surrounding land use densities with the estimate. So based on the um research that we did, the density range is consistent with the other densities of the subdivisions, surrounded subdivisions in the area. [2:03:13, 2:03:26]: And this is surrounding land use density maps as shown, with the properties shown in the yellow star. You have Brannan's Walk, and you have the lake side at Eagles Landers subdivision and you have the park side at Eagles Landers subdivision. [2:03:26, 2:03:28]: So the it's it's consistent. [2:03:31, 2:03:42]: Key points from that we did in the staff analysis is that it is consistent with the goals and policies of the comp plan as shown and these are the goals that they're consistent with, that align with. [2:03:45, 2:03:50]: The proposed MFR is compatible with the requested MFR zoning district. [2:03:51, 2:03:59]: And is suitable to the area since the other areas have a future land use destination of high density residential and low density residential. [2:04:03, 2:04:07]: And the proposed MFR is not compatible with the current [2:04:08, 2:04:16]: Current land use mixed designation. So therefore, that's why the applicant submitted a compliant amendment to change it from low density mixed use to medium density residential. [2:04:17, 2:04:20]: And it'll provide as far as the par oh, wrong one. [2:04:21, 2:04:22]: Okay. [2:04:24, 2:04:26]: So overall staff recommendation is approval. [2:04:30, 2:04:33]: And I will go into the rezoning R C twenty four dash zero six. [2:04:37, 2:04:57]: The applicant's request is to rezone from C2 to MFR to allow for the construction of the townhome development. Currently, the two parcels are zone commercial, general commercial. However, the C2 zoning district provides a list of permitted uses which does not include townhomes. Therefore, the applicant has requested to rezone the two parcels from C2 to MFR. [2:04:57, 2:05:05]: MFR Section two point four of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code provides a list of permitted uses, which includes townhomes. [2:05:05, 2:05:06]: Mm. [2:05:10, 2:05:23]: And this is a zoning map and the properties shown with with the two stars. As you can see you have L I, you have O I and you also have M F R on the left and right, and you also have C two as well. [2:05:24, 2:05:28]: And you also have S SR, which is single fam suburban residential. [2:05:32, 2:05:37]: In addition, the property is part of the overlay Pocre Mixus Overlay District. [2:05:42, 2:05:47]: And the key points to analyze from that we analyze is that the pro proposed MFR [2:05:48, 2:06:08]: The proposed MFR is compatible with the current um land use mix designation. It's consistent with the UDC, and as far as the positive effects, it will provide alternative housing types for first-time home buyers and it will generate an increase in revenue for businesses of the nearby shopping center. Also, water and sewage is available. [2:06:08, 2:06:15]: And any land use under the C two can be developed on these subject properties if it remains the same. [2:06:22, 2:06:42]: And staff recommends approval with the following conditions. Flock cameras will be located at the entrance of the proposed townhome development. A 25-foot buffer shall be established along the northern and southern portion of the subject property. A mandatory HOA shall be established. The units shall not increase 100 units. [2:06:42, 2:07:00]: Maranchal shall not exceed ten percent of the proposed townhome developments, and male chaos shall be established, and the reverence shown with the submitted application on july first, twenty twenty four shall be followed, with the brick being shown in the front and the sides is shown hardy plank sided. [2:07:03, 2:07:07]: And this is the v presentation for VR twenty four dash zero two. [2:07:10, 2:07:25]: With the applicant's request, the first variance is to r reduce the front yard setbacks of the townhome lots from the acquired fifty to thirty feet, and the second variance which is to reduce the side yard setback of the townhome lots between buildings from the acquired fifteen to ten feet. [2:07:26, 2:07:33]: This is the MFR district standards that are found in section two point four four of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code. [2:07:37, 2:07:48]: And the staff analysis that we did. Since staff is reviewing the MFR building standard standards, staff is in support of the requested variants. [2:07:49, 2:08:03]: And in addition, the requested variances, they're they're consistent with the overall purpose of the UDC. And in addition, the applicant may be prive of the opportunity to build a townhome community without the reduction of the front and side yard setback. [2:08:05, 2:08:09]: So based on our analysis, staff recommends approval for both variances. [2:08:13, 2:08:15]: All right. Thank you, Gordon. Appreciate it. No problem. [2:08:17, 2:08:20]: The uh applicant or representation, if you could please come. [2:08:21, 2:08:23]: Good evening. Please state your name, your address. [2:08:23, 2:08:29]: It's over just a second in my presentation here. [2:08:37, 2:08:38]: Here we go. [2:08:39, 2:08:59]: Okay. Good evening, Mr. Chairman. Uh board members, Vice Chairman, excuse me. My name is George Harper, Paramount Engineering, 11 East Broad Street, Noonan, Georgia. I'm here tonight representing the applicants. Um LI Route 23 uh for the rezoning um of this property. [2:08:59, 2:09:19]: So this property is currently uh owned by uh LI23, is the CNC Fence Company. They've owned this property for a number of years, uh back since the nineties, I believe it is. And they did come uh before the um city council uh a number of years ago to try to expand their fence company. [2:09:19, 2:09:39]: onto this property. Well their property is zoned LI and this property would have had to have been zoned LI as well. So it was denied uh at that time and so the property's just kind of been sitting there vacant. They've kind of had it for sale. It's been zoned C2, but just really haven't had many takers over the years. So I think they're getting a little older and they really want [2:09:39, 2:09:47]: and try to to move this property. And so we approached them or developers approached them about um [2:09:48, 2:10:04]: rezoning this for a town home development, especially with all the um development around it being residential, other than their property to the north, um, it seems like it would be a good fit. And so again, you know, we're just to kind of reiterate some of the things that um [2:10:05, 2:10:25]: that uh Mr. Linton said, you know, the property um is currently uh surrounded by residential. You've got some high di high density residential to the west, you've got some uh lower uh density residential to the south, but again some higher residential to the east. So uh in commercial and uh industrial zone to the north. [2:10:25, 2:10:45]: So this uh townhome MFR zoning is a is a good transitional type zoning, as the previous applicant said as well, from more single family higher density to some of the uh lower single family density as well. And then also uh you got commercial and industrial involved in there as well. So it's a it's a [2:10:45, 2:10:50]: good type of transitional zoning and I think the staff reiterated that point as well. [2:10:50, 2:11:10]: But again, we're trying to uh first of all amend the comp plan um from low density mixed use to the medium density residential, uh rezone from from C2 existing uh to MFR. Um we're applying for uh variances to reduce the front setbacks from 50 feet. [2:11:10, 2:11:21]: to 30 feet. Now the reason for this, if you look at most other um zoning code around this area, Henry County, Clayton County, [2:11:22, 2:11:25]: in their in their townhome type uh zonings [2:11:25, 2:11:30]: The front setbacks are normally twenty to thirty feet. The reason is for that is is [2:11:30, 2:11:50]: Um when you have smaller units, they typically the point of somebody buying those units is to have less maintenance, okay? Uh either older people or or younger folks. So when you bring the um houses a little closer to the road, you don't have as big a front yards to maintain. Um and it it it kind of makes the it more [2:11:50, 2:12:06]: more of a community type feel. And so that's typically the reason why uh these um setbacks are more in the 20 to 30 foot range. Uh 50 is is a little um excesses excessive from what you know I've seen in in most other municipalities. [2:12:06, 2:12:26]: And then as as far as the side setbacks, uh it's it's kind of the code says that uh in this MFR zoning that the minimum side setback is fifteen feet, but the minimum distance between buildings is twenty. So it would be thirty feet, but the code says the minimum distance between buildings is twenty. [2:12:26, 2:12:46]: So we're just trying to reduce the setback to make that match uh that part of the ordinance. And speaking with staff, uh, we kind of explained it to them as well in this process. And uh Mr. Linton had said that they are kind of in the going in the process of looking at that part in their code and possibly um maybe making some changes to that. So they do match. [2:12:46, 2:12:50]: uh you know w uh what everything matches. [2:12:51, 2:13:11]: Mm-hmm. Uh let's see the the tract is of thirteen point six four acres. Uh we've got plenty of open space. Um if you if you look at our site plan, we've got quite a bit more green space than maybe the the previous applicant had. We tried not to cram just every square inch of this property with units. [2:13:11, 2:13:31]: Uh I probably could have gotten another ten or fifteen units on this thing uh if we had had uh really tried to just cram it in here. But we wanted to to leave the the open space and make it more of a uh a an upscale feel. You know, this property is real close to Eagles Landing, this area is very near [2:13:31, 2:13:49]: nice. The surrounding area is very nice. So we wanted this to be more of an upscale type townhome development. And so we didn't try to cram every square inch of units in this property. You know again we have we've only got 100 units. We got sidewalks on both sides of the street. [2:13:49, 2:14:09]: Uh we're gonna provide a pool, a playground, a uh pool cabana um as uh uh guest parking. Uh that's that's a big thing now with a lot of these townhome developments that they're asking for is additional guest parking. Some of the concerns I I've in the last few of these that I've rezoned have been people um you know [2:14:09, 2:14:29]: Commissions worried about people parking on the street. Well, we provided ample space at the uh at the pool house as well as some additional parking at the rear of the property. When I say rear, I mean south uh west corner there. Now you can't really see it very well on this property uh or this this map, but on the southwest corner. [2:14:29, 2:14:34]: corner we have an emergency access drive. So this one will have two [2:14:34, 2:14:54]: Not really two, it'll have one access, but it has an emergency access on the southwest corner. Uh there's actually curb cuts uh for both of our entrances right now. There's a curb cut uh that uh lines up with Parkview Place, which will be our main entrance, and then there's actually a an existing curb cut as well uh for where we're [2:14:54, 2:14:57]: we're gonna locate the uh emergency access. [2:14:57, 2:15:11]: D cell lanes are already in, left turn lanes are already in. So we really don't have to do very much road improvements or uh any any kind of you know, amenities or I mean improvements on the uh G dot right away. [2:15:11, 2:15:15]: Which is good for for us and for you know, G Dot. [2:15:16, 2:15:36]: Uh we're gonna provide all two car garages. I know uh some of the products you've heard of have uh are wanna do some one car garages. We're not gonna do that. We're doing all two car garages. Uh they'll be all twenty-four foot wide. Most of the units will be eighteen hundred square foot plus. Um we're gonna do uh [2:15:36, 2:15:56]: It'll have brick stone accents on the front. I've got some render down here. Real nice looking products with a lot of stone and brick on the front. We're going to do kind of the metal type roof on the area above the garage. It's got a little overhang right there to kind of protect. [2:15:56, 2:16:02]: on the garage, so those will be kind of metal roofs on that area. Obviously uh shingle roofs on the on the main roof. [2:16:03, 2:16:05]: Uh let's see. [2:16:07, 2:16:17]: So that's that's kind of the the gist of what we're what we're proposing. Um I know the staff had made several uh recommendations and [2:16:18, 2:16:20]: You go through those, excuse me. [2:16:25, 2:16:35]: We are in agreement with all of those though. I can't read them off right now as he Mr. Linton went through them, but we are in agreement with all of those uh those recommendations. [2:16:35, 2:16:40]: And I just wanna point out one thing uh on this property. So it's currently zone C two. [2:16:40, 2:16:44]: And C two has quite a few [2:16:45, 2:16:47]: allowable uses by right. [2:16:47, 2:16:50]: And I just want to read a couple of these. [2:16:50, 2:16:51]: Just [2:16:51, 2:16:58]: So everybody's kind of aware of what could what could currently go on this property. A car wash, an auto repair shop, a pawn shop. [2:16:58, 2:17:02]: Drive through restaurants, tattoo parlor parlors, and vape shops. [2:17:02, 2:17:21]: So those are just some of the things that are allowed by right on that property right now. I I know if I lived in the area, I would much rather have um some residential than more commercial uh butting up against me. Um we're trying to design the property to where, you know, it it it fits in with the surrounding [2:17:22, 2:17:23]: uh communities. [2:17:23, 2:17:26]: You know, the property to our south is zoned M FR just like we are. [2:17:26, 2:17:39]: So um, you know, it's very compatible and a good transitional zoning and I think it'll be a very nice upscale uh product for this area. I'd like to reserve any time I have left for rebuttal, but I'll be glad to answer any questions that you may have. [2:17:39, 2:17:42]: Thank you. I'd like to open it to the board if you have any questions, please. [2:17:44, 2:17:44]: Mr. David. [2:17:45, 2:17:57]: This is Dave Planchan. I've got a question. Um you said about eighteen hundred square feet for each unit. How many bedrooms are you anticipating or what kind of mix of bedrooms do you think you'll have? It'll be a minimum of three bedroom. [2:17:58, 2:18:18]: Minimum of three? Minimum of three. Okay. Yeah. So there's going to be obviously families going to be interested in moving in here. Um again we think about schools. Yes. The accessibility of school buses, where the children are going to meet to get on the school buses, et cetera. Uh-huh. Have you given any thought to that or what were your ideas on that? [2:18:18, 2:18:38]: Yes, yes we have. I've got two small kids and and it seems these days and I think the the gentleman uh was saying this before, they kinda got to where they do more of a consolidated pickup nowadays. They don't go around to each house like they used to when we were growing up. So uh yes, again, our amenity area in the rear would be a [2:18:38, 2:18:39]: Great spot for that. [2:18:40, 2:19:00]: All the the way that it's kind of laid out, uh, you don't really have a very far walk from any of the units to that. I mean, you know, you can easily cut through to get back over to the to the amenity area and the bus pickup. So uh we got parking there for parents if they wanted to drive back there to you know let their child wait to pick up. [2:19:00, 2:19:16]: up so and a nice big cul-de-sac as well. So yeah, I I think you know we there's plenty of room and it's there's not a lot of, you know, big winding curves and sharp turns in this subdivision to, you know, to really inhibit any traffic movement. So if that helps. [2:19:19, 2:19:19]: Question. [2:19:19, 2:19:33]: Um two two actually questions. He took one of'em. Um what's the price point starting? The price point of these are gonna be pretty similar to the last one. They're gonna be in the three hundreds, I mean three thirties up. [2:19:35, 2:19:38]: Depending on what you had, you know, as far as amenities when you build'em out. So [2:19:39, 2:19:41]: Okay. And I um [2:19:42, 2:19:59]: I actually wanted to see if you would go into one of the staff recommendations for variance one, which is reducing the front yard setback um from fifty feet to thirty feet. Um, I actually want to modify the staff's uh variance to thirty five and see if you all be willing to do thirty five. [2:20:00, 2:20:02]: Can I ask the reasoning behind that? [2:20:03, 2:20:20]: For me, I I've seen some of these developments and I'm I'm fairly new with you guys as um actual developer, but I would feel more comfortable with thirty-five than thirty, seeing that some of our developments and townhomes in our city um we've had some issues with thirty. Okay. And so I would be a little bit more comfortable with that extra five feet. [2:20:29, 2:20:37]: Yes, I mean we'll t we we take that under advisement. I mean I will I'll be honest with you the thirty feet came from staff. Uh [2:20:40, 2:20:44]: He does early still that's what it is. [2:20:44, 2:20:50]: Yeah, from the back of curb. So you're really almost forty feet from the back of curb. So you're only forty one feet. [2:20:50, 2:20:51]: from the curve. [2:20:51, 2:21:00]: Where the curve is at the start of the house for 41 feet, because there's 11-foot ride over there where all the utility verand is not included in the setup. [2:21:00, 2:21:01]: Gotcha. [2:21:04, 2:21:10]: Correct. Gotcha, thank you. Yeah, that's he's a developer, yes. Okay, thank you. Sorry. [2:21:13, 2:21:16]: Cool. That's all I have. Okay. Any other questions from the board? [2:21:17, 2:21:18]: Thank you. [2:21:21, 2:21:30]: With that, I'd like to open it to the community. So if you would, if you are in favor of the application, please form a line to the left. [2:21:32, 2:21:40]: If you are opposed to the right, make sure you sign the sheet. When you come forward, please speak into the microphone, state your name and your address, please. [2:21:45, 2:21:57]: Good afternoon. Can you hear me? Yes. I live at my name is Lawanda Detman and I live at two fifty Brandon's Walk. This development is literally in my backyard. [2:21:58, 2:22:18]: I oppose it. A hundred vehicles in that space. The Highway 42 traffic is already a nightmare. When I come home in the afternoon just to go from Eagles Landing and Highway 42 up to Brandon's Road, sometimes it [2:22:18, 2:22:23]: It takes twenty five it's just bumper to bumper to bumper. [2:22:25, 2:22:45]: The schools are already overcrowded and saturated. This development will do nothing to this area but make it worse. I don't see this making a benefit in no type of shape, form, or fashion to piggyback. [2:22:45, 2:23:05]: on what other people have been saying. These price points will literally go to people, investors, who will buy these properties up and this area will become transit. Even the gentleman who was presenting stated, this is a nice area and we want to keep [2:23:04, 2:23:24]: It that way. Bringing in a hundred families who have to have schools, who have to have more stress on the hospital, who have to have more stress on the area would not be beneficial at all. I think that you should oppose this in every way. [2:23:24, 2:23:32]: Putting up a barrier on my backyard to this development will not in any way. [2:23:34, 2:23:54]: uh create a barrier for the noise that's gonna come from there. I don't know exactly where that pool or that cabana is gonna be located. It could be located right in my backyard, literally. So I oppose this 100%. And I don't think that we should even allow [2:23:54, 2:24:12]: Allow 10% rentals because once you get rentals in an area, it becomes transient. And then you get crime and you get other things that are not desirable for this area. So I beg you to vote no. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. [2:24:15, 2:24:15]: Out of sheet. [2:24:19, 2:24:20]: I filled it out. [2:24:24, 2:24:24]: Go ahead. [2:24:26, 2:24:43]: Thank you, Mr. Vice Chairman, and I want to thank all you uh people here today that are uh doing this for us because uh I know you got a hard job. But let me start by saying my name is Ronald McNeil. I live in 259 Kensington Trace. That's in the park side at Eagles Landing that they showed on the screen there. [2:24:44, 2:24:51]: You already know that a few years ago you guys changed the pattern of traffic on Eagles Landing in forty two. [2:24:51, 2:24:57]: And it forced us no longer to be able to come out that exit and make a left turn on the Eagles Landing and go to Walmart. [2:24:58, 2:25:09]: That's cool. Progress. We love it. So we had to come out on forty uh highway forty-two in order to turn left and go to the light and make a left to go to Walmart. [2:25:10, 2:25:15]: That hidden incline coming up southbound on forty two. [2:25:16, 2:25:16]: is now [2:25:17, 2:25:19]: А main road for construction. [2:25:20, 2:25:21]: And track their trailers. [2:25:23, 2:25:24]: He says [2:25:25, 2:25:28]: Excuse me for pointing. So it's been mentioned that [2:25:28, 2:25:32]: There's no need for any traffic change because there's already a road there. [2:25:33, 2:25:34]: That's cool. [2:25:34, 2:25:36]: Only problem is like the young lady just said. [2:25:37, 2:25:38]: You can't get out. [2:25:38, 2:25:40]: At certain times of the day. [2:25:41, 2:25:43]: So we're forced to set our life pattern. [2:25:44, 2:25:46]: Based on a traffic situation. [2:25:47, 2:25:51]: I can't leave my house between four and six because nobody's gonna let me out. [2:25:52, 2:25:57]: The entrance to that neighborhood they want to build is actually a lot of times when I come out [2:25:57, 2:25:58]: In the morning. [2:25:59, 2:26:01]: A police car is sitting there. [2:26:01, 2:26:09]: Because they understand that the traffic pattern on that going up that hill, cars are racing trying to get around those tractor trailers. [2:26:09, 2:26:13]: And they're speeding, and we're stuck trying to wait to get out of our own neighborhood. [2:26:14, 2:26:15]: So I beg you. [2:26:15, 2:26:17]: Please, I bring you a solution. [2:26:18, 2:26:20]: If you tell me you're gonna build that place, fine. [2:26:21, 2:26:23]: Put a circle on Brandon Road and [2:26:24, 2:26:25]: And forty two. [2:26:25, 2:26:34]: That way those tractor trailers and trucks will not have to stop the light. They can continue on. And my exit, the only one I have. [2:26:35, 2:26:36]: To basically get out of my neighborhood. [2:26:37, 2:26:39]: Воно бі блок континуслі. [2:26:39, 2:26:42]: for ten, fifteen, twenty minutes,'cause they don't let you lay out out. [2:26:43, 2:26:46]: when they're trying to get to where they're going, headed southbound on forty two. [2:26:47, 2:26:48]: Thank you. [2:26:49, 2:26:51]: Thanks, sir. She's good. [2:26:57, 2:26:58]: Hello. [2:26:58, 2:27:05]: I'm Dan Anderson. I live at two forty one Brannon's Road, Brannon's Walk, which of course is [2:27:06, 2:27:07]: In my backyard. [2:27:08, 2:27:08]: Uh [2:27:09, 2:27:12]: They did mention a twenty five foot buffer. [2:27:13, 2:27:15]: But a twenty five foot buffer with uh [2:27:16, 2:27:17]: Two story [2:27:17, 2:27:21]: Town homes along back my back yard is [2:27:22, 2:27:26]: Зновура квает нейборгуд. [2:27:27, 2:27:30]: We like it quiet. It's not crowded. [2:27:31, 2:27:32]: And uh [2:27:32, 2:27:36]: That's that's all I've got to say. Thank you. Thank you, sir. [2:27:40, 2:27:45]: Good evening. My name's Brenda Woods and I live at two forty five Brandon's Walk. [2:27:46, 2:27:55]: which is in the cul-de-sac at the top of Brandon's Walk Road, and my property backs up to the proposed area of the building. [2:27:56, 2:28:00]: And for I have lived there for twenty six years. [2:28:00, 2:28:08]: In all those 26 years, I've had one incident happen at my house where somebody got into my husband's car and took some stuff out. [2:28:09, 2:28:19]: My fear is that bringing a hundred new homes to my backyard is going to cause crime coming to my back door. [2:28:21, 2:28:21]: I mean [2:28:23, 2:28:24]: The noise from a hundred [2:28:25, 2:28:38]: People living back there, the music, people hitting their car locks five times to make sure they're locked. Um car alarms could be set off at out all hours of the day and night. [2:28:38, 2:28:42]: And when they build, they'll cut down those trees. [2:28:42, 2:28:48]: Which will make the sun beam beat down into my windows and raise my electric bills. [2:28:49, 2:28:50]: Um [2:28:51, 2:29:00]: Most of the time I've lived back there, there's been nothing back there. Many years ago, they talked about putting a um office building. [2:29:01, 2:29:06]: Which I'd much rather have an office building back there because there wouldn't be people back there twenty four seven. [2:29:07, 2:29:25]: You know, there's gonna be lights probably from the street lights, the the houses, the noises coming, especially if there's a playground and a swimming pool. And of the seven houses that are at the top of that cul-de-sac, in that cul-de-sac, over half of us are senior citizens. [2:29:26, 2:29:30]: And one of the houses just sold. We have no clue who's moving in. [2:29:31, 2:29:32]: But [2:29:33, 2:29:41]: That was listed as being in a nice, peaceful, quiet neighborhood, which, if a hundred townhomes are built, [2:29:42, 2:29:45]: Next to us it's not gonna be nice and peaceful anymore. [2:29:46, 2:29:51]: And it's gonna cost me not only in electric bills, but if that's built. [2:29:51, 2:30:11]: I'm gonna have to change my curtains because wildlife doesn't care that I have sheer curtains or half curtains in my the back of my house, but I'm not gonna want people looking in my windows. And I go out on my back deck now, you hear the wildlife, the birds, the the crickets, the cicadas and everything. [2:30:12, 2:30:17]: I'd much rather hear that than a bunch of people back there, you know, partying or [2:30:18, 2:30:23]: just daily life. So it's gonna come out of my pocket. [2:30:24, 2:30:27]: And I don't think the fence that we have back there, the gate. [2:30:27, 2:30:39]: My husband put a um like a barn style door that slides. I don't think there's any way we could lock that fence. So if I have to change that, that's gonna come out of my pocket. [2:30:40, 2:30:53]: And I would think if they do build, I'd like to see them have to put a buffer like what's on the side of the highway to keep the noise and the light down. [2:30:53, 2:31:01]: And it's like I like my quiet, safe neighborhood. I don't need to have a hundred people in my backyard. Thank you. [2:31:02, 2:31:02]: Thank you. [2:31:07, 2:31:12]: Good evening. My name is Demetria January. [2:31:12, 2:31:17]: Um, I live at eight twenty five Rock Lane. I live in Lakeside at Eagles Landing. [2:31:18, 2:31:38]: And um I'm also the treasurer of our HOA. Um, I had my house built 20 years ago, and the main reason I had it because of the quote unquote Eagles Landing area, the prestigious Eagles Landing area and the country club. And the reason why I'm standing here today to oppose [2:31:38, 2:31:38]: Biz. [2:31:39, 2:31:40]: Um [2:31:40, 2:31:46]: building of these town homes. Um, I'm already having problem trying to get out on East Lake. [2:31:47, 2:31:50]: With the traffic coming in and with these one hundred [2:31:50, 2:31:52]: Townhouses being built on forty two. [2:31:53, 2:31:54]: That's gonna create more traffic. [2:31:55, 2:31:56]: And as you know that [2:31:57, 2:31:59]: You have Echo, the school. [2:31:59, 2:32:06]: And people know how much traffic is on 42. Not only that, but it's so much traffic when there was an accident on 75. [2:32:07, 2:32:10]: Where all the traffic get route to forty two. [2:32:10, 2:32:17]: So with him saying that no need for anything to be done with forty two or anything. [2:32:17, 2:32:37]: I think we should oppose this. It's just too much congestion or anything like that. And we don't and we really don't need town homes in that area. Um we value our property. We value the Eagles Landing Country Club, the community area. And I just think that by building tone homes and with them coming out on 42, it will be a setback for. [2:32:37, 2:32:47]: for the area. So I just wish you would consider um what I'm saying and um opposed to building up the town homes. Thank you. [2:32:48, 2:32:48]: Thank you, ma'am. [2:32:51, 2:32:51]: Anyone else? [2:32:54, 2:32:54]: Yeah. [2:32:55, 2:32:56]: With that, yes, sir. [2:32:58, 2:32:58]: Yeah. [2:33:02, 2:33:11]: Okay, I jotted down just a few of the concerns and and and I and I do hear the concerns and um I just I wanted to address a few of'em as far as traffic goes. [2:33:12, 2:33:13]: Um [2:33:13, 2:33:29]: It is it's my understanding that Highway forty two is on the DOT's list to be widened in the next however many years that is. But uh the fact that it is on the list should provide a little bit of solace to to those uh who who live around there. But I do understand the traffic. [2:33:29, 2:33:31]: А інстаф'с репорт. [2:33:32, 2:33:38]: They did do uh they did look at the traffic impact of this um this development on the highway. [2:33:38, 2:33:51]: And in the report it does say that the average daily uh traffic on highway forty two is seventeen thousand two hundred vehicles. So our hundred vehicles a day is is [2:33:51, 2:34:00]: kind of a drop in the bucket um compared to the amount of traffic that's already on there. And the staff report does say that it would have very minimal, if any, impact whatsoever. [2:34:01, 2:34:21]: Um as far as the price point of our houses, our units, they are very comparable and even exceed some of the surrounding uh price points of the houses around us. Uh we've gone and looked at some of those, some of the houses that are for sale, the recent sales and the ones that are for sale now. Um [2:34:21, 2:34:28]: And they are very comparable, or if not more, in some some cases, uh than some of the surrounding properties. [2:34:29, 2:34:30]: Um [2:34:30, 2:34:50]: A lady brought up a question about rentals. Um we don't in we don't intend to have any rentals. I know the staff put in there a maximum of ten percent rentals. Uh we would be fine with zero percent rentals uh because we have no intentions of of doing any rentals. It is for sale only. Um and then the buffers. These uh these buffers [2:34:50, 2:35:10]: will be planted uh very heavily um to uh screen the our subdivision from the neighbor's subdivision and vice versa. Um we'll also have you know the street lights uh the way they make them nowadays are all led downlit so uh the uh the light glare is not uh [2:35:10, 2:35:22]: you know, doesn't spill over into the neighbor properties. So um hopefully that addresses just a few of the issues. I I know that probably doesn't, you know, uh answer all the questions, but uh [2:35:22, 2:35:29]: But hopefully it provides a little bit of information of of kinda where we're coming from. So you have any questions I'll be glad to answer that. [2:35:31, 2:35:32]: Questions from the board? [2:35:35, 2:35:37]: All right, thank you, Storper. Thank you. [2:35:40, 2:35:53]: Okay, in regard to rezoning case RZ 2024-06, comprehensive plan CP 2024-06 may have a motion to approve or deny. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion to approve the plan. [2:35:54, 2:35:56]: In this hero, I'll second it. [2:36:01, 2:36:07]: All in favor signify by raising of hands and aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [2:36:09, 2:36:10]: Mr. Matthews opposed. [2:36:15, 2:36:21]: Mr. Jaden, Mr. Harold, Mr. David, approved. The applicant in the motion is approved. [2:36:35, 2:36:47]: Okay, that's it for the agenda for tonight. Thank you everyone for coming. Thank you for your comments. Mr. Chair. Yes. We didn't we that was just for the comprehensive plan, correct? We do we need to vote on the variances? [2:36:48, 2:36:49]: I'm sorry. [2:36:50, 2:36:52]: I'm sorry. Okay. [2:37:01, 2:37:05]: Understood. Okay, so the rezoning plan was approved. [2:37:09, 2:37:17]: Comprehensive plan CP twenty four. CP twenty twenty four dash zero six. Just the variances individually, I'm sorry. [2:37:20, 2:37:25]: I thought you said I you just did the conference of plan the results together. [2:37:26, 2:37:31]: Okay. But we can vote on the variances together. [2:37:37, 2:37:44]: separate votes on the variance cases. That's why they are now listed separately on the agenda. Okay, that's what I was asking. [2:37:52, 2:37:52]: I will. [2:37:55, 2:37:55]: I will. [2:38:01, 2:38:08]: For the record, rezoning case twenty twenty-four zero six. I have a motion to approve or deny. [2:38:10, 2:38:13]: Motion to approve. Mr. Jaden approves. [2:38:15, 2:38:23]: May have a second, please. I second and Harold. Harold seconds. All in favor? Motion of aye and a raised hand. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? [2:38:25, 2:38:30]: Mr. Thomas is opposed. The rezoning is approved. [2:38:33, 2:38:38]: In regard to the contr comprehensive plan, CP twenty twenty four dash zero six. [2:38:40, 2:38:42]: I have a motion to approve or deny. [2:38:44, 2:38:45]: I thought we did that one first. [2:38:46, 2:38:53]: No, we did the rezoning. We just did the rezoning. Now we're doing the con comprehensive plan. I made one motion for the comprehensive plan. [2:38:53, 2:39:02]: What I made a motion for the comprehensive plan and it was approved. Okay. That was it. Ms. Logan, are you good with that? Now we move on to rezoning. [2:39:04, 2:39:08]: Rezoning was just voted on. And I'd like to make a motion we approve the rezoning. [2:39:08, 2:39:13]: I just did rezoning. We just did rezoning and it was approved. From C two to M F R. [2:39:14, 2:39:15]: Okay. [2:39:17, 2:39:21]: Rezoning was done separately. It was just done. It was approved. Three to one. [2:39:23, 2:39:28]: Ms. Logan, we voted on the comprehensive plan prior. Are we good three one? [2:39:29, 2:39:30]: Yes. [2:39:30, 2:39:32]: Okay, let's vote on the variances, please. [2:39:36, 2:39:39]: Variance case VR twenty twenty four zero two. [2:39:43, 2:39:48]: This is item number nine. This is for the required fifty feet to thirty feet. [2:39:49, 2:39:53]: May I have a in a I'm sorry, may I have a motion to approve or deny? [2:39:54, 2:39:55]: Motion to deny. [2:39:57, 2:39:58]: Ms. Jaden. [2:39:59, 2:40:01]: Those to deny? May have a second. [2:40:02, 2:40:13]: Second. Mr. Thomas seconds. All in favor? Aye. Raised hand. Aye. I say no. Nay. [2:40:15, 2:40:16]: David? Nay. [2:40:17, 2:40:25]: That's two two on the variance. The vice chair will vote. No. Is opposed. [2:40:26, 2:40:27]: Variance is denied. [2:40:32, 2:40:44]: Uh Chairman, I think you need to reconsider that. I I don't you say it is denied. If if you didn't have enough votes to run it through, then it would be It was fifty fifty. [2:40:45, 2:40:47]: And then you said no. I said no. [2:40:48, 2:40:48]: Mm. [2:40:51, 2:40:55]: Chair. Yes. Motion to approve uh variance number two. [2:40:58, 2:41:03]: That's item number ten, correct? Yes, sir. I second it. David seconds it. [2:41:05, 2:41:11]: All in favor signify with raised hands and aye. Aye. Aye. The motion is approved. [2:41:16, 2:41:18]: Any other business? Staff comments? [2:41:23, 2:41:26]: All right, thanks everyone for your patience. Appreciate you showing up tonight. [2:41:28, 2:41:38]: May I have a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second, second. Second. Go ahead. All in favor, aye. Aye. Aye. We are adjourned. Thank you. [2:42:05, 2:42:05]: Sure. [2:42:11, 2:42:12]: Yeah, dang um. [2:42:15, 2:42:15]: Yeah. [2:42:19, 2:42:20]: Oh, that's right.
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    --- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-08-12 source: 2024-08-12_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:02:11, 0:02:21]: And hopefully uh [0:02:23, 0:02:41]: Come on, you come on down folks. Come on. So this is our ceremony portion of uh our city council meeting this evening. So once again I want to start with the proclamation for uh Brianna's heart of Go. See that's as far as that goes. Okay. I'm pretty sure it picked me up. All right. [0:02:42, 0:03:02]: So this is in recognition of Branna's Heart of Gold. Whereas Brianna's Heart of Gold Incorporated, a 501c3 nonprofit, was created to honor the life of Brianna Brooks and the four lives she saved with her organ donation. And whereas when Brianna Brooks received her driving permit, she made a decision to register as an organ donor. And with that said, [0:03:02, 0:03:05]: Single act she would change the lives of others forever. [0:03:05, 0:03:19]: It was no surprise that Brianna made that decision. From a young age she felt destined to help people. And whereas the mission of Brianna's Heart of Gold Incorporated is to educate others about the importance of owner organ, excuse me, organ donor. [0:03:19, 0:03:20]: Donation. [0:03:21, 0:03:36]: Whereas the decision to be an owner, uh organ donor, can be a tough conversation because your family may feel uneasy about donating your organs. It's important that you get the facts and myths about organ donation. And whereas Brianna's legacy continues through [0:03:36, 0:03:39]: her three children and recipients of her organs. [0:03:40, 0:03:46]: In her darkest moment she gave light to life and life to others. Whereas donation and transplant uh transplantation [0:03:46, 0:03:51]: can uh take place successfully between individuals from different racial and ethnic backgrounds, groups. [0:03:52, 0:03:56]: Transplant assess is often better when organs are matched between people. [0:03:56, 0:03:58]: The same racial and ethnic background. [0:03:58, 0:04:18]: People African American, Black and Asian, slash Pacific Islander, Hispanic Latino, and American Indian, Alaskan Native, and multiracial descent currently make up nearly fifty-eight percent of the individuals on the nation, screen on the national organ transplant waiting list. These communities are in great need of more organ and tissue donors. Now therefore [0:04:18, 0:04:23]: I am Mayor Anthony S. Four by virtual authority vesting me as a mayor city star breeze, Georgia. [0:04:23, 0:04:29]: On behalf of City Council members Ellen Alexander, Lana, Barber Kyle, Berry, Lakeisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas do [0:04:29, 0:04:36]: Recognize Brianna Brooks and encourage to donate organs and save lives, or encourage others to get educated on organ donation. [0:04:36, 0:04:39]: To be a symbol of hope for those who are waiting. [0:04:39, 0:04:49]: And witness hereof I have hereundo set my hand under great seal see Stockbridge, Georgia, on the twelfth day of August year of our Lord, two thousand twenty four, and I signed the proclamation alone and clerk for us on holiday. [0:04:55, 0:05:06]: So you wanna wanna come over here for a picture here? And then of course the the floor is gonna be yours here shortly. All right, everybody? Okay. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: I wanna let go of that so you can hold that? [0:05:09, 0:05:10]: Okay. [0:05:13, 0:05:19]: Good, got all got all pictures? [0:05:26, 0:05:32]: Yeah, I'm not sure. Okay. [0:05:33, 0:05:53]: Well, I just want to thank the City of Stockbridge for this honor. And want to let everyone know this month is actually special because it is National Minority Donor Awareness Month. So it is important that in our community that we encourage our families to be registered donors. And like he had stated, uh nationwide, we are at the bottom of being registered donors. [0:05:53, 0:06:13]: And we have a better match of matching if we register to help those. Brianna was able to save three black men. And her liver recipient is a black man who also started his own nonprofit to encourage others to be donors. So I'm just glad that you all are here and I hope that y'all spread the word about Brianna's heart of gold and what we're doing to [0:06:13, 0:06:16]: add people to the registry. Thank you. [0:06:21, 0:06:22]: What's the [0:06:22, 0:06:24]: The black just from one later. [0:06:26, 0:06:26]: Okay. [0:06:27, 0:06:28]: Dr. Phillips. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: You walked in just in time. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: Come come on up, my man. [0:06:41, 0:06:47]: People from Trois and Smoke and David said about five thirty. Okay. And then several others know. Okay. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: I'm a good one. [0:06:51, 0:06:57]: Welcome back to the city council meeting. Uh want you want you come on this side please? Okay. [0:06:58, 0:07:13]: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Dr. Amanda Phillips. And so we're going to issue her our city proclamation as well. I'm going to read through this and you'll see why we've decided to do this with this outstanding lady that has retired and been a privileged. They're doing a lot of great things in the city of Stockbridge. [0:07:15, 0:07:35]: Whereas Dr. Amanda Phillips is retiring from as a attending physician, partner of the Eagles Landing OB G Y N McDonough, Georgia. Whereas Dr. Phillips is a graduate of Emory University and with a Bachelor of Science pursued her medical uh degree with the University of South Carolina and established herself as a practicing obetrician and uh [0:07:35, 0:07:55]: uh oncologist, if I got her pronounced right. She has practiced over 20 years serving as a partner of Eagle Landing's OBGYN and has demonstrated her commitment to professional professional professional excellence by charting uh excuse me by chairing the Department of Office Strengths, obstetics Obstetrics Obstetrics. [0:07:54, 0:08:02]: And gene genealogy at the Piemont Henry Hospital. And whereas beyond her medical practice, Dr. Phillips had is an accomplished entrepreneur. [0:08:03, 0:08:19]: Owning a real estate investment company since 2008, her servant spirit extends to her roles on various boards, including Denver Homes and Haven House, where she has played a vital role in supporting the disabled and victims of domestic violence, respectively. [0:08:19, 0:08:23]: She joined the board of the Center for Black Women Wellness at a clinic. [0:08:23, 0:08:24]: I want to show women. [0:08:25, 0:08:26]: In twenty uh twenty four. [0:08:27, 0:08:47]: She also joined the Southern Crescent Habitat for Humanity board. Most recently, Dr. Phillips regularly mentors high school and college students, speaks on panels to educate the community, volunteers at health fairs and free clinics, supports the fundraisers for several nonprofit organizations. And whereas Dr. Phillips is a dedicated alumni and has contributed significantly. [0:08:46, 0:09:03]: to Emory University, establishing a doctor in Manor Copeland Phillips Endowment Scholarship in 2019. She serves as a mentor in her program. Her philanthropic endeavors extended to supporting Georgia rural hospitals and paying off student lunch balances in Henry County schools. [0:09:03, 0:09:06]: Demonstrained her commitment to education and community welfare. [0:09:06, 0:09:12]: Whereas Dr. Phillips is actually engaged in improving healthcare standards and currently serves as a senior peer reviewer. [0:09:12, 0:09:15]: Piemont health care contributing to professional development. [0:09:15, 0:09:17]: for enhanced patient safety. [0:09:17, 0:09:35]: Additionally, Dr. Phyllis founded the Henry County Islamic Center, serving as a board vice president and treasurer, showcasing her commitment to fostering inclusive and supportive communities. And therefore, I and Mayor Anthony S. Ford by virtual authority investing me as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. On my half of City Council members Elton, Alan Xander Londa, Barber Cowberry, [0:09:35, 0:09:39]: The case again at Fonzo Thomas to hereby congratulate Dr. Man Phil Phillips. [0:09:40, 0:09:40]: On her retirement. [0:09:41, 0:09:46]: And we thank you for your outstanding contributions, dedication, leadership, and making a positive impact in the community. [0:09:47, 0:10:01]: A witness whereof we have I have here unto set my hand a great seal of Stockbridge, Georgia, the twelfth day of the year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-four. And I signed this proclamation along with uh Clip Vanessa Holiday. Congratulations. [0:10:04, 0:10:14]: What once we get between him and I and then oh you okay. Did you I w anybody else you want any photographs? You know? My husband. Okay, sir, you want you you need to be in the photographs, sir? Come on. [0:10:16, 0:10:18]: [621.3, 622.1]: All right. [0:10:34, 0:10:40]: And then you go back to the right. [0:10:43, 0:10:49]: Congratulations. Thank you. No, matter of fact, the mic is yours. If you the floor is yours, whatever comments you're willing to make. Congratulations, please. [0:10:51, 0:11:00]: I would just like to thank the City of Stockbridge for recognizing um community servants and um for all the work that they do for the community. Thank you. [0:11:04, 0:11:05]: Remember? [0:11:06, 0:11:06]: Yeah. [0:11:06, 0:11:26]: As you see and as I read through that process, she's been a great asset to us in the community. It's done a lot of different things with the City Stockbridge in our community. So uh we welcome her success in her retirement. Congratulations on that. And I know she's gonna have a great impact on other endeavors that she does. And as long as she keeps Stockbridge in her mind to continue to do those great things, which is fantastic, but I know you have a lot of things that you want to do. [0:11:26, 0:11:30]: So God bless you and and wish you the best of luck. Is that Zen? All right. [0:11:32, 0:11:32]: Wait. [0:11:33, 0:11:53]: We certainly want to thank Dr. Phillips and the entire team that she works with, because she is a philanthropist that gives throughout the community, as was said and that was stated. We certainly appreciate everything that you do. And we do recognize that the practice was in stock for you for quite some time. And certainly you're still just a hop skiffing of. [0:11:52, 0:12:03]: jumping away. So certainly we know that you deserve these years of retirement, but we know you won't be sitting down. We know you'll still be working. So continue to do what you do. [0:12:04, 0:12:05]: Thank you. [0:12:10, 0:12:16]: All right, well you know what I like to do now is I like to uh bring up our Chief of Police, Frank Champler, sir. [0:12:19, 0:12:39]: Now on the list it has here about what the priest advisory committee has done. All right. And instead of me trying to uh mention that and acknowledge all that, is your department served, the team of folks that you work with the citizens and stoppers, I'm glad to have you announce this particular award that you esteemly uh [0:12:38, 0:12:47]: received along with members of the the academy that may be here, such as Mr. Nee Robinson. Come on up. All right. Come on. [0:12:48, 0:12:51]: But you [0:12:52, 0:13:01]: Mayor, you give me a lot of credit, but really the credit's not mine. In all honesty, um you all have to have some of the credit for this as well, because if you recall [0:13:02, 0:13:04]: When we started the Stockbridge Police Department up, um [0:13:05, 0:13:25]: It was uh in discussion we talked about the fact that we wanted our community involved in uh programming policing for this community. And um obviously uh you've heard me say this before probably that uh policing is not something we do to our community, we do in partnership with our community. So we have members of our community that serve on [0:13:24, 0:13:44]: The council and the mayor appoint a member from each of their respective areas. I appoint somebody from the patrol zones in the city. We have members of our business community, our faith-based community, and we even have a member from our youth advisory council that participates on this. And once a month we sit around, as a matter of fact, a lot more than that and we talk about the issues that are [0:13:44, 0:13:51]: are occurring in the community, what are the priorities for members of our community as it relates to public safety programming. [0:13:51, 0:13:58]: And they work collaboratively with us. So we have strong partnerships with our community, represents all interests in the community. [0:13:58, 0:14:02]: And um this is something that the mayor and the council [0:14:02, 0:14:22]: had um uh wanted in conjunction with me as part of what it is that uh we're doing in terms of community policing, 21st century policing uh principles. And um so this is really out of our vision, but I can't take all the credit because it's our wonderful uh team members, and I will say volunteer team members that meet with us on a regular basis. [0:14:22, 0:14:38]: to talk about uh items that are of concern and how we can work together to address those issues. And so I think that as it relates to the impact uh that we're having and what it is that we're doing, then uh maybe we could hear from our advisory council members so they can talk to you about that. Thank you. [0:14:40, 0:15:00]: Well, thank you, Chief, and thank you to Mayor and Councilman Alexander. Um, this is just something that was well needed here in the city. Um, we each have zones and we are able to be the voice for those zones for the community. So if you need more um um patrolling in your community. [0:15:00, 0:15:20]: That's what we talk about. If you see something, we always say say something. Um, so we're just grateful for the chief and his team to put this all together so that we can have an additional voice outside of the council that is here during the council meetings. So if you see any one of us, um you're [0:15:20, 0:15:40]: These meetings are open to the public. But if you see any one of us, please reach out because if you have any concerns about what's going on in your neighborhood, then please bring that to us because we want to be the voice so that way they can continue to patrol, but they still want to know what's going on. So we're just making them aware what's happening in our community. [0:15:40, 0:15:57]: So again, this is open for others. So please get involved. They have the the police citizen academy as well. So please look into that once you go to the city's website because it's a a viable tool that you that you can be involved in the community. [0:16:01, 0:16:04]: You might be yours? [0:16:04, 0:16:24]: Well hello. Yes, I'm a member as well. And I wanna again wanna thank Chief for everything he does in the community community. Not only are we a part of the uh council, but Chief does an amazing job in ensuring that the police that are policing our areas look like us and represent us and also hold them accountable as needed. [0:16:24, 0:16:28]: Which is why I'm a part of the uh council as well. Thank you. [0:16:31, 0:16:51]: And the the last thing, I think the reason that we're here is uh in recognition. So there are over eleven hundred law enforcement agencies in the state of Georgia. And um our police advisory accounts uh council, uh every year the Georgia Chiefs uh Association of Chiefs of Police um gives an award to uh three police departments across the state that implement innovative programs. [0:16:51, 0:17:02]: programs that represent best practices in policing and our advisory council was one of three finalists for the Motorola Award of Excellence uh during this year's Chief of Police conference. So [0:17:04, 0:17:22]: That's that's quite an accomplishment and um there's a lot of talk about community policing, but I will say this, having been in the field for twenty five years, uh we're not doing it well enough, but we are doing it extremely well here in Stockbridge. Uh we're very connected with our community and uh after all this is uh where community connects, right? And we're doing it here. So thank you. [0:17:24, 0:17:35]: [1060.0, 1070.3]: Okay one, hold on, hold on, it's still it's on the reception. [0:17:53, 0:17:58]: Is uh Mr. Glenn here. Mark Glenn. [0:18:00, 0:18:05]: Okay, and totally the border. Come on up, sir. [0:18:13, 0:18:20]: Well actually, um seven. [0:18:25, 0:18:29]: Well ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to square these uh once you get on this side, please. Yes sir. [0:18:30, 0:18:30]: [1112.4, 1132.4]: I'm gonna swear on these uh two individuals here um for the Public Facilities Authority. And geez, I don't know where Mr. Glenn is, but we're gonna go move forward with this, all right? So if you all can just uh raise your right hand and I'm gonna read this in small little snippets and leave for you to respond and plead after me, okay? I [0:18:52, 0:19:12]: State your anointing, state your name. I enter your board. Board member. Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That it will faithfully performed. That will faithfully perform. The duties of the public facilities authority. Duties of the city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support [0:19:12, 0:19:32]: The th the charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution and the and laws and laws of the state of Georgia. The state of Georgia. In the United States of America. In the United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that. Upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:19:32, 0:19:52]: You know, on the current public money. Do I'm payable to the state? Or payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state, any political subdivision. The city of Scott Bridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold, nor do I hold any other office of trust. [0:19:52, 0:20:12]: Of the government, of the United States, of this state, of this or any foreign state as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge and to the best of my ability. [0:20:12, 0:20:20]: Without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward, or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. [0:20:20, 0:20:23]: There. And this is the twelfth day of August twenty twenty four. [0:20:24, 0:20:42]: Okay, congratulations. You need to sign the document as well with me and uh the vessel our current will also sign it and uh we'll take some pictures. As a matter of fact, while I'm signing, any one of you have the floor to make any comments you'd like. [0:20:43, 0:20:54]: Go ahead, ms go ahead. Um thank you. Um City of Stockbridge. It's an honor and I'm here to [0:20:55, 0:20:59]: Help the community and stand for positivity. Thank you so much. [0:21:03, 0:21:15]: I do want to say thank you for the opportunity and the trust. And as stated, no fear or favor. I will stand and uphold for the best for the community of Stockbridge. So thank you all. [0:21:20, 0:21:40]: I think it is important that you understand what this board does. This board is one of the tools that we have in the toolbox for improve improving the community. What they did was through municipal bonds, they were able to finance the Stockbridge Amphitheater Project for us and municipal projects. So what they do is they deliberate. [0:21:40, 0:22:00]: And they decide and they um look at the financials on what needs to be done in order to pay for these programs efficiently. And the mayor will be able to tell you in just a second how outstanding a job they're doing on the amphitheater and the financials. Right, Mayor? Okay, well thank you, sir, for that. And somebody's [0:22:00, 0:22:05]: getting at is that uh this is August of twenty twenty four. By August of twenty twenty five. [0:22:05, 0:22:10]: Next off, one year from now, the amphitheater we totally paid off$22.5 million. [0:22:14, 0:22:27]: Twenty two point five million dollars, a little more than four years, okay? And then all we just have to do is maintain it. Just like you gotta maintain your house and your car and your body, you just gotta maintain it, right? So on that note, since you said that and I brought this you brought this up. [0:22:27, 0:22:45]: We got a concert coming in this weekend, Starberg AMP dot com. And we got several more during the course of the year. So if you haven't been there, come by. If you've been there, come back. All right? It's for you, it's for our community. Uh so we need to take some pictures here, I can imagine. All right? Yeah. Please, just a little bit more so we get to press city in the background. [0:22:45, 0:22:50]: It's just built with a sweat thing, it's okay. [0:23:00, 0:23:10]: Uh absolutely. And the rest of the assignments and then get this these documents to you, okay? [0:23:17, 0:23:20]: And you know what I've excused. [0:23:30, 0:23:40]: There you go, so appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I've just used my uh right, that's what's going on, right? Okay. [0:23:44, 0:23:48]: And I have another proclamation here and this one is dealing with Black Business Month. [0:23:48, 0:24:00]: And I'll tell you these ceremonial, all the swearing in and ceremonial proclamations are uh some of the uh highlights I think of of what what I do and my responsibility, what I and the council do we do in this aspect as well. [0:24:00, 0:24:01]: So [0:24:01, 0:24:03]: On that note, before I read this. [0:24:03, 0:24:07]: If anybody is has a a business, they're a black business owner. [0:24:08, 0:24:09]: Come on up and join. [0:24:10, 0:24:12]: Come on, all of you. Whoever who is everywhere. [0:24:12, 0:24:13]: Come on. [0:24:15, 0:24:16]: Warren's a new word. Okay. [0:24:24, 0:24:29]: And here's what's gonna happen after I read this, you all I'm gonna give you all the mic. [0:24:29, 0:24:33]: And you're gonna talk about your particular business. And hopefully your business is a stop rich. [0:24:34, 0:24:54]: I'm really kind of joking with you, but okay, honestly. Okay, let's go. So Black Business Month. Whereas Black Business Month is celebrated in August is a time to acknowledge and appreciate black owned businesses across the nation and all that represent our country's continual striving for diversity and equality. Whereas the history of Black Business Month can be traced [0:24:54, 0:25:06]: back to the year 2004 when historian John William Templeton and engineer Frederick E. Jordan Sr. found a National Black Business Month to highlight the and empower black business owners. [0:25:06, 0:25:17]: Whereas in nineteen uh nineteen fifteen, with the establishment of of the National Negro Business League, there was a widespread support of African American entrepreneurship and a nation uh national business league spreading [0:25:17, 0:25:28]: To over thirty-four states. By two thousand two, one point two million of the United States and twenty-three million businesses were owned by black people, bringing in a revenue of over a hundred and fifty billion. [0:25:28, 0:25:41]: Whereas when we celebrate the contribution of black business owners and entrepreneurs, it pays homage to them and their legacies, especially since celebrating this month, recognizing the importance of black owned businesses when it comes to contributing to the nation's economy. [0:25:42, 0:25:54]: Approximately ten percent of all Afric American businesses are black owned. And if we look at what the stick is say, this is to say about minority owned businesses, about thirty percent of these would belong to black business owners. [0:25:54, 0:26:11]: The primary sectors in which black owned businesses operate include healthcare, social work, repair and maintenance, beauty salons, restaurants, and more. And whereas black businesses have also is also an important role and play towards supporting student and education and giving funds towards scholarships and minority students. [0:26:11, 0:26:31]: And therefore, I am Mayor Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vested than me, as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Ellen Alexander, Landa, Barber, Kyle, Berry, Lucissa Gantt, and Afonso Thomas, you hereby proclaim August 2024 as Black Business Month and call upon Stockbridge Community to support and encourage African American owned businesses in the community. In witness thereof, I have [0:26:31, 0:26:43]: I have here unto Sabbath in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the twelfth day of August, year of our Lord, 2024. And I signed the proclamation along with a clerk for Nessa Holmes Day. Okay? [0:26:46, 0:27:04]: I I have I have several of these and if we don't have enough we'll produce we'll get you we'll get you one, okay? So is it is this one business here? Okay, there that's yours? Okay, okay. We one per business if we if we have them all then we'll any shortfalls we'll produce more. Okay? If that's the case. All right, we got enough? [0:27:05, 0:27:13]: You got enough? All right. Now, so since I'm since I'm right-handed, I'm gonna say I'm gonna start on this side and any comments that you wanna make. [0:27:14, 0:27:14]: Sure. [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: The floor is yours. [0:27:16, 0:27:19]: No, no, that's the short. [0:27:21, 0:27:41]: Good evening. First and foremost, um, Mayor, thank you very much. It's very good to see you again. Councilman Alexander, very good to see you again as well. And it's so very exciting to see and be here with each and every one of you. Um as I won't say I'm we're new to Georgia, but the business is new to Stockbridge. [0:27:41, 0:27:51]: So we are the director and deputy director of Smith Academy of Excellence for Exceptional Scholars. And so [0:27:51, 0:28:11]: We have a predominantly our population students who have autism, but also as you know, the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. There are 13 distinct disability categories. So we do serve all students with disabilities. And our educational partner is the University of Missouri Columbia. [0:28:11, 0:28:14]: That there's some background with the mayor with being from Missouri. [0:28:15, 0:28:35]: And so we are really excited to be located in Stockbridge. We're truly excited to be serving the community. The parents are phenomenal. The community has been phenomenal. We have major community partners. And what Smith Academy stands for is scholar mastery through instruction, training. [0:28:35, 0:28:55]: Training and homes, school, and community partnerships. Because we want our parents to know that we stand with them, between them, holding hands. So when they leave us, that they can go out into this same great community and have a future and be very productive because our students deserve that as well. [0:28:55, 0:28:55]: As well. [0:28:57, 0:28:58]: Hi. [0:28:59, 0:29:00]: Yeah. [0:29:02, 0:29:11]: Dr. Smith pretty much covered it all, um, what Smith Academy stands for and as the city stands for, where community connects. Um, it's about allowing our students to know [0:29:11, 0:29:31]: What goes beyond the schoolhouse for them? That they can go into their banks, that they can go into their grocery stores in the local restaurants and not feel as if they're not being included within those environments. So it's about setting up our students for success beyond the schoolhouse. And that's why it's so important for moments like this where we're able to connect with the community and let our students and our families. [0:29:31, 0:29:33]: know what's also available to them. [0:29:34, 0:29:34]: Yeah. [0:29:35, 0:29:36]: Thank you. [0:29:38, 0:29:48]: Good evening everyone. My name is Diane Miller. I am the owner and curator of the historic Greenfront Cafe, which is one of the best kept secrets here in Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:29:49, 0:30:09]: Thank you. Originally opened in 1947 by Miss Carrie May Hambrick. Uh sh the our beautiful green front cafe sits right in the middle of the historic district, uh which is right behind the food depot, not too far, maybe about a mile away from here. Uh we have the best sold food. Got a little bit of Taste of Jamaica as well in it. If you have [0:30:09, 0:30:12]: have an opportunity, please come by and see us and be a part of history. [0:30:17, 0:30:20]: Hello everyone. Antonio Gordon here. Um [0:30:20, 0:30:29]: I'm the owner of Twelve Hundred Management and I'm also a celebrity barber too. So like I travel around and cut hair too. So um [0:30:29, 0:30:43]: And management is with the kids with music or um uh uh a gospel church, um hip hop R and B, but you know what I'm saying? Music is what I do. Thank y'all so much. [0:30:46, 0:31:06]: Hello again. I'm Angela White, and I'm actually representing three businesses because my mom could not be here today. But I'm representing Balloons by Sharon J, which is my mother, Sharon Jenkins, which is located at 416 Eagles Landing Parkway. And she basically does all types of balloon decor, events, corporate, all types of things. [0:31:06, 0:31:26]: So please contact us if you need anything. And then JW Event Suite, which is an event space that you've probably passed at some point on Eagles Landing Parkway. And then JW Event Rentals and Decor, which is in Stockbridge as well. So we handle all types of events. And I really thank City of Stockbridge for supporting us since we came in. [0:31:26, 0:31:42]: in the community in 2018, even though I am born and raised and grew up in Stockbridge, but we started our business in Stockbridge in 2018 and they have always supported our business literally from the day we opened, the mayor and Elton were there. So thank you all. [0:31:48, 0:32:08]: Hi, my name is Mindy Mayers, LCSW, and I'm a therapist and I provide mental health therapy, specializing primarily in substance abuse, PTSD, and working with veterans. So thank you. And I also provide supervision to people who don't have their full licensure to help them get their licensure to be a therapist. [0:32:08, 0:32:10]: So thank you so much for the opportunity. [0:32:15, 0:32:31]: Hello, my name is Liz Thibodeau and I'm the owner of Serenity Hair Designs, which is located at four one four Eagles Landing Parkway. We're neighbors. So if you ride past, you'll see us both. Uh I've been in the community um [0:32:32, 0:32:39]: I think since two thousand and twelve, twelve or thirteen. And uh if you all are in need of any kind of service. [0:32:40, 0:32:43]: Come and see us. We have Brader, we have [0:32:43, 0:32:45]: А піп дува с сорта сервис. [0:32:46, 0:32:50]: Thank you all both for inviting Elton and the Mirror. Thank you. [0:32:57, 0:33:17]: Hello again, I'm Dr. Amanda Phillips. I am retiring partner of Eagles Landing OBGYN, which had been in Stockbridge until last year for about 36 years, I think since 1987. But my other um business is Iman Developments, which is a real estate investment business. [0:33:17, 0:33:25]: That's been registered in Stockbridge since 2008. And I do short, mid, and long term rentals. Thank you. [0:33:31, 0:33:51]: Hello everyone. So I have um Young Dreamers, Young Legacy Learning Academy, which focuses on boys from the age of six to thirteen. Because as being in the school system, I felt like after school was the boys weren't getting what they needed. It was just being told, just go sit down and shut your mouth. And I wanted to create an in [0:33:51, 0:34:11]: Environment where boys can be boys, where they can learn how to build, where they can use their hands and creativity. And so we are housed right in the Stockbridge Presbyterian Church, right across the street. And I also have a nonprofit called Young Dreamers International, focus on boys again, but those are young men from the age of 15 to 25, because I believe [0:34:11, 0:34:21]: believe that we are the we are the solution to the problem and we cannot allow our boys to just go roaming on the street without no guidance. Just this weekend my son [0:34:22, 0:34:28]: After not figuring out just figuring out what he wanted to do, he graduated from the Navy booth camp and [0:34:30, 0:34:38]: I saw just me pouring into him consistently how I send in a young boy. [0:34:38, 0:34:45]: But when I came and I visited him, he became a man. And that's what I want to do for other boys. Thank you. [0:34:52, 0:34:53]: Good afternoon. [0:34:54, 0:34:59]: My name is Shalan Kay Bomani. I founded Black Money Movement. [0:35:00, 0:35:01]: Thank you. [0:35:01, 0:35:21]: Uh to the mayor of Stockbridge and to you, sir, um, for having us here this day. It's a great uh honor to be recognized uh during this Black Business Month, which is new to me. But um so Black Money Movement is all about our people and wealth building. Uh when I got here [0:35:21, 0:35:41]: I'd say about four years ago. I've been here 10 years, but about four years ago, I was introduced to some people who spoke to me about money in ways that I had never heard. I've gone to college, I've gotten my degrees, and I but money, I had never had the conversation like I had uh when I came here. So I figured if I didn't know it, I knew there were other [0:35:41, 0:35:46]: other African Americans who did not know this information. So I took a little [0:35:46, 0:35:48]: А чек інтуар хелт. [0:35:49, 0:36:09]: And I found out that we're spending over a trillion dollars every year. Last year we spent one point eight trillion, and this year we're on tap to do it again. Our dollars circulating in our community for six hours, some are claiming thirty minutes. And economists have been projecting since twenty seventeen that by the year twenty fifty-three our median wealth income is set to be zero. [0:36:09, 0:36:09]: Zero. [0:36:10, 0:36:13]: So we've got a lot of work to do to correct it. [0:36:13, 0:36:33]: Through this movement, I teach financial literacy classes. All of it is virtual. I teach wealth-building strategies. I'm connecting the number one consumer in the world, which is African Americans, with black-owned businesses that represent Black excellence and entrepreneurship. And I also have a marketing degree, so I use that to further support Black owned businesses as [0:36:33, 0:36:47]: as well. So um I do have some uh literature that I can pass out to you all if you you're interested. Um but yeah this is a a desperate work that needs to be done and we really and truly have to begin to save ourselves. Thank you so much for your time. [0:36:51, 0:37:03]: You any comments uh your your business owners come on any comments you want to make a actually the three of us are together. Oh okay. Sounds good. Sorry. [0:37:03, 0:37:09]: Yeah, they they both spoke, but it's up to you. The floor is up. I apologize. Um [0:37:11, 0:37:31]: Um I just wanna say um last I don't know how much um background information um my partners gave. Yes, I will say so Miss Antoinette is um our board president, but she is also a parent. Okay. And so we have parents that serve on our board um who are [0:37:30, 0:37:44]: you know founding members and it has made all the difference and when you understand their experience we understand the reason why um fortunately but also unfortunately institutions like ours must exist [0:37:45, 0:37:50]: And she has a a young black son and and Caleb is adorable and Caleb has autism. [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Um [0:37:52, 0:37:56]: Yeah, and uh part of part of the reason why um [0:37:56, 0:38:06]: I partnered with these two wonderful ladies is that um the frustration of having a private school in our area that served my son's needs. [0:38:06, 0:38:19]: Um, I don't know if there are any other autism parents in audience or grandparents or family members. Um, but it has it has at times been a struggle. And so the three of us came together to make sure that there [0:38:19, 0:38:37]: um is a private school that's offered in the city of Stockbridge for children with autism and that we make sure that we strive for excellence at our school. And so since you guys have heard um the gist of what the school is about from them, I'll be brief and I'll end my my uh notes there. Okay. Thank you. [0:38:44, 0:38:51]: Hello, my name is Sherry Pettis and I have been a realtor in this area for almost 27 years. [0:38:52, 0:38:53]: Oh thank you. [0:38:53, 0:39:13]: Uh thank you very much. Uh one of the things I am most proud about my career is that a few years ago I started a nonprofit and every closing that our team has, we uh donate ten percent. That's my tithe. I go to church often, but probably not enough. Um [0:39:13, 0:39:27]: And so we give ten percent and over the last several years, uh, I'm honored to say that we've awarded almost seventy thousand dollars in scholarships. Oh, hey, y'all got one. Oh [0:39:28, 0:39:30]: [2370.6, 2371.6]: Okay, stop. [0:39:32, 0:39:33]: Oh [0:39:34, 0:39:54]: Well, I just wanna say that and I am going to give a shout out. We are having an amazing golf tournament September thirtieth at Eagles Landing Country Club and a hundred percent of the donations are going to uh a foundation called Cares for Kids. So if you have any questions [0:39:54, 0:40:05]: about that tournament. If you have any questions about um I'm just I'm shaking a little bit because I had no idea y'all were gonna be here. So thank you very much. Have a great evening. [0:40:11, 0:40:12]: Problem is yours, sir. [0:40:16, 0:40:22]: What do y'all want me to say again? No, I'm just kidding. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. How y'all doing today? [0:40:22, 0:40:42]: I am the owner of a frozen smoke bar and restaurant in downtown Stockbridge. One of the great things about our restaurant is that we've been open for a year in in June. And since then, we've been able to host many events, birthday parties, anniversaries, uh political events, all the things that communities that a business does for the community. And in doing so, [0:40:42, 0:40:54]: What's so amazing is, is that uh the vision of our restaurant when we opened it was twofold. We want to be the Pascals and the varsity of Stockbridge. And people say, what do you mean by that? [0:40:54, 0:41:01]: I said, you remember Varsity, Coca-Cola wrote their business plan on a napkin at the varsity, and now they control the world. [0:41:02, 0:41:15]: And PASCO's is where uh many of the civil rights leaders and business leaders in the city of Atlanta always bro went and broke bread and made decisions that change the trajectory of community. And that's our purpose. [0:41:15, 0:41:26]: We want people to come not only enjoy great food, live music, uh and and just have a good conversation where you can have uh a right to agree to disagree in an atmosphere where you not feel threatened. [0:41:27, 0:41:34]: And you feel at home to discuss any topic that you want as long as it's decent and not offensive. [0:41:35, 0:41:37]: And that's what you can do with frozen smoke. [0:41:38, 0:41:56]: And so we welcome everybody to always come. We have political organizations that come have weekly meetings. We have fraternities and sororities like the Divine Nine come have monthly meetings. We have fundraisers. We had the uh the privilege of hosting uh a member of our church organization. [0:41:56, 0:42:00]: They were celebrating their seventieth wedding anniversary. [0:42:00, 0:42:05]: Seventieth wedded anniversary. How many people can say they've been married for seventy years? [0:42:06, 0:42:11]: And they've been married so long that they they packed the entire restaurant inside and out. [0:42:12, 0:42:32]: And so that was a fantastic feeling that everybody felt welcome, warmed. And since then, from that family, we've hosted two of the events from that very same family. We see people in here that we've celebrated their birthdays, their anniversaries, and organizational meetings right at our restaurant. So we just want for you to come out, celebrate. [0:42:32, 0:42:44]: And be a part of a community where you don't ha where you can come break bread and enjoy an atmosphere where you have the right to agree and disagree and not feel threatened. Frozen smoke restaurant and bar. Thank you. [0:42:45, 0:42:47]: [2567.9, 2578.0]: Okay, you guys take a picture here. Alright, so we're gonna double up the triple up folks. Come on down this way so we can get all again the camera. All right, get the picture here. Some of you ladies might want to go on this side. [0:42:58, 0:43:13]: Come on down, come on down, right? Come on. It's it's tight, get tight in here. Come on. How you doing? You doing alright? Alright. Uh what do you think? What do you get to happen? Okay. [0:43:14, 0:43:15]: S. [0:43:20, 0:43:21]: [2622.5, 2639.3]: You're more than welcome to stay for our meeting. It's open to the public, so you don't have to go unless you want it's up to you. Stay as long as you like. Thank you so much. Thank you. Um [0:44:02, 0:44:04]: Yeah. [0:44:09, 0:44:10]: I think. [0:44:37, 0:44:45]: Okay, we're gonna we have a poem, so we're gonna get started very soon. We have got a we got a point, so we're gonna start here very quickly [0:46:00, 0:46:02]: Yeah, it was the parent. [0:46:05, 0:46:08]: [3013.4, 3018.3]: Council, I need you to come to dies, please. I have six oh seven. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get started on the meeting. [0:50:40, 0:50:42]: Council, I need you to come to the diaspora so we can start a meeting. [0:50:46, 0:50:48]: Yeah, yeah. [0:50:50, 0:50:52]: Yeah. [0:50:53, 0:50:55]: [3092.1, 3095.1]: I really appreciate the fact that everybody having a good time. [0:51:36, 0:51:41]: A good time is be had by all. But ladies and gentlemen, we need to get our meeting started. Council needs you back to their dais. [0:51:43, 0:51:45]: Ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. [0:51:49, 0:51:53]: I'm glad everybody's having a good time enjoying themselves here at the city council chambers. [0:51:54, 0:51:55]: Yes it is. [0:51:56, 0:51:57]: Quite festive, as I've been told. [0:52:02, 0:52:06]: Yeah, you know, I guess I I guess I could use that, right? [0:52:07, 0:52:09]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's let's meet started. All right. [0:52:09, 0:52:12]: And it's unusual for me to use a gavel, but uh I [0:52:13, 0:52:15]: I guess it does work. Outstanding. All right. [0:52:17, 0:52:21]: What I'd like to do, ladies and gentlemen, is start our meeting. I have uh [0:52:21, 0:52:32]: 609. So I'd like to call our council meeting of uh August twelfth to order once again at 609 on the twelfth of August. Invocation, please. [0:52:33, 0:52:38]: Brianna Hart of Gold, her mother is going to give the invocation. Please stand if you if you can. [0:52:43, 0:52:44]: All right. [0:52:45, 0:52:50]: Let's pray. I pray for this council meeting tonight. [0:52:50, 0:52:53]: Give the council members wisdom and guidance as they deliberate. [0:52:53, 0:52:54]: On items before them. [0:52:55, 0:52:57]: May every decision be righteous in your sight. [0:52:58, 0:53:04]: For our benefit and for your glory. In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen. [0:53:04, 0:53:19]: Do a pledge of allegiance. A pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to the Republic for which it stands, automation, under God, individual, of liberty, justice, and our [0:53:19, 0:53:21]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:53:22, 0:53:32]: Good evening everyone. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Timberry. Present. Councilmember Alexander. Present. Councilmember [0:53:35, 0:53:40]: Present. Council Member Thomas. Mayor Ford, we have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Mayor Pro Temberry, please. [0:53:41, 0:53:54]: Yes, Mayor. Uh item number four, I wanna make uh the recommendation it would not need to be heard uh due to the amendment and adoption of the comprehensive plan. There's no need for uh that to move forward for today's agenda. [0:53:55, 0:53:59]: Sir second emotion. Sir Mr Mr. Alison second, all in favor, please indicate. [0:54:00, 0:54:03]: So unanimous decision. Okay, now I need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. [0:54:04, 0:54:09]: So so Mr Mr. Alexander and seconded by Miss Barber. All in favor, please indicate. [0:54:10, 0:54:20]: Thank you very much. Before you council, what you have is that you've got council meeting minutes of July 8th, 2024, special call meeting minutes SPLOSS six. [0:54:21, 0:54:37]: uh for july fifteenth of twenty twenty four and also the millet's rate public hearing min mini meeting minutes for the july fifteenth, july nineteenth, and july twenty second. And the council work session meeting minutes from july thirtieth. There are no particular changes to that. I need a motion to accept them all on the record, please. [0:54:37, 0:54:46]: So moved. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? Second. Mr. Berry, second. All in favor, please indicate. All right, you now have a decision on that. Uh Madam Clerk, any public comments at all? [0:54:48, 0:55:08]: Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, if you weren't here earlier for our ceremonial uh part of our meeting, which occurred actually at 515, and some of the individuals are still here, I want to make sure that you know that Brianna's heart of gold received a uh a proclamation from the city in reference to the Oregon donation uh that she gave upon her death to help save. [0:55:08, 0:55:28]: Save other people's lives. Three individuals, I believe they're all African American men, is what I've been told. Dr. Amanda Phillips, a well-renowned, retired doctor in the Stockbridge area, received a proclamation as well. We have several different uh businesses owned by African Americans that received uh proclamation for a black business month. And then I swore in to several oaths of all [0:55:28, 0:55:48]: Office for Antonio Gordon and Samantha Samuels and their new members of the Public Facilities Authority Board. And then of course our city of Stockbridge Police Department. Chief Tremor was here with a couple members of his of uh of the police uh uh citizens police advisory council and their runner-ups uh earlier this month, excuse me, last month, I'm sorry, last month, but it [0:55:48, 0:56:08]: Doctor Curtis McClure Award of Excellence. And uh they were competing against all the law enforcement agencies in the state of Georgia, which is several, several hundred. And they were actually uh in the top three. And that's uh pretty acceptable and a acknowledgement because the our police department's only been uh in existence for two years. So fantastic effort on [0:56:08, 0:56:16]: the uh the police chief and all the citizens that are involved uh with uh with that particular advisory uh committee. [0:56:17, 0:56:18]: Yes, sir. [0:56:19, 0:56:22]: Can't hear me? Okay. [0:56:25, 0:56:35]: We have our well what what what what we did we took we took comprehensive plan for the public care in I don't know four is coming off it came off. There's no need to discuss it because everything that's involved with that has already been taken care of. [0:56:36, 0:56:56]: In the comprehensive plan previously. So we we'll have a public hearing, but we'll go to number five when we get to that. I'm on number three right now. Thank you, sir. And and no need to address that way. Normally address from the poll from the mic here. Well we're we're taking care of this. No problem. All right. Old business. Uh deannexation case DX-2024-02 for mandatory. [0:56:56, 0:57:16]: Subdivision, phase two, consideration of the ordinance to de-annex uh from the corporate city limits of the city of Stockbridge, nine parcels within a manner subdivision representing phase two, which are listed below. The request was made by the owners of the nine parcels, which are located in land lots eight and nine of District 12. The parcels will become part of the [0:57:15, 0:57:35]: Part of the unincorporated Henry County. The City Council previously approved on April 30th, 2024, deannexation case DX 2024-01 and manually subdivision phase one, which uh had concerned the ten different uh parcels that were actually de-annexed. And so the nine and question this evening or when [0:57:35, 0:57:55]: 160 Jasper Drive parcel number 013A0102300. 165 Jasper Jasper Drive parcel 013A01024000. 195 Jasper Drive parcel number 013A0100. [0:57:55, 0:58:15]: 310 Cariff Drive parcel number 013A01039000 320 Cariff Drive parcel number 013A01038000 325 Cariff Drive parcel number 01300. [0:58:15, 0:58:35]: 3A0120 once again parcel number 013A01025000 and uh 510 Porthole Court parcel number 013A01049000 and 515 Port Low Port Low Drive Court that is parcel. [0:58:35, 0:58:55]: Number 013801047000 and 520 Port Low Dra Court that is 013A0104800. Miss Anderson, please. Good evening. On June 14, 2024, the city received nine applications for deannexation. [0:58:55, 0:59:00]: Um here's the aerial photo of the site. [0:59:02, 0:59:10]: Here are the nine properties highlighted in um in red. Uh as you can see they are contiguous to unincorporated Henry County. [0:59:13, 0:59:18]: Uh this is another uh vicinity map for phase two. Um [0:59:20, 0:59:28]: Based on staff's review and legal review, um the nine applications meet the qualification for a DNX. [0:59:30, 0:59:33]: Good thing, Council. Questions, concerns? [0:59:33, 0:59:53]: Yeah, certainly. The only thing I want to say to it is sometimes you I know a lot of times we get caught up into these myths of things and folks look at social media and you understand everything that you see on the internet is not exactly true. And sometimes people fall for the okie doke. See that was [0:59:53, 1:00:13]: A misnomber that was placed out in the community that if you leave the city or you DNX, you would be paying less taxes to the city of Stop, you'd be paying more taxes in the city. Of course, all of those things don't happen to fall to be true. Because in this case, if you live in unincorporated Henry County and most [1:00:13, 1:00:28]: In most cases, you're gonna be paying more taxes next year because the city held our millage rate at 3.77%. 3.77 mils. In most cases, the tax commissioner stood right there at the podium, right? [1:00:29, 1:00:31]: Mr. Gardner, come to the podium. [1:00:41, 1:01:01]: The tax commissioner stood right there at the podium, right next to you, and he outlined those criteria that said pretty much what I just explained, which was the millage rate in the city of Stockbridge, totally inclusive of the new city tax, will be less or slightly less for many homeowners uh in unincorporated versus being in the cities. [1:01:01, 1:01:02]: Is that correct? [1:01:02, 1:01:03]: Yes, sir. [1:01:03, 1:01:23]: And understanding that being what it is, and understand before somebody comes and knocks on your door and says, Oops, you're gonna be able to pay less taxes by leaving the city. You don't ever know because you know I certainly I I look at my county accounty counterparts and they made a decision based on the knowledge that they had that pretty much said uh to the [1:01:23, 1:01:43]: Public that they were investing in public safety and that they needed to build more fire stations and they needed to increase public safety. So they made a tough decision, certainly, uh, in order to embrace public safety. But certainly, understanding one thing, it is a fact that you will be paying, even inclusive of your city tax, you will be paying less in total. [1:01:43, 1:01:48]: total overall property taxes in the city of Stockbridge than you will be if you were not. [1:01:50, 1:02:10]: In the city of Stockbridge. So let's just make that clear and understanding that we do everything possible to keep the tax rate as low as possible in the city. And thank God we started our own police department. But not only are we paying 3.77 meals and less overall taxes, we got police. [1:02:10, 1:02:20]: Police Chief Frank Tramer sitting back there with uh about total personnel in the police department. Now I see is eighty that patrols the city keeping us safe. So thank you. [1:02:21, 1:02:22]: You know the comments from the council? [1:02:23, 1:02:37]: Mayor. Go right here, please. One. So I represent district one and this is in my district. I did have an opportunity to go and knock on some of the doors of some of the neighbors in the area. I went door to door. [1:02:37, 1:02:43]: Um I did not get a chance to go to everyone, but those that I did reach out to. [1:02:43, 1:02:45]: Um either [1:02:45, 1:02:50]: just signed the uh w a couple of them just signed and didn't know what was going on. [1:02:50, 1:02:52]: One was fairly new, they were [1:02:52, 1:03:10]: more so interested in w what is the cheaper rate of the taxes and if we could prove that we would be paying cheaper staying in the city. Um and then the uh there were a few who were just flat out saying it did not matter whether or not [1:03:11, 1:03:19]: The taxes were higher or less that their concerns were the way that they were annexed in. [1:03:19, 1:03:39]: and that they were they felt the need that there were promised or told that they would not have certain taxes that were implemented. That was the statement. Um I can't say neither here nor there because I've always, always, always been transparent about that. [1:03:39, 1:03:59]: And I've always stated that if you have a police department, which the constituents ask for and they ask for districts, that at some point you're gonna also have to have a city property tax. So that tax, in fact, Councilman Alexander is correct. And that was one of the reasons I wanted to personally walk to some of the neighbors. [1:03:59, 1:04:19]: Um doors to let them know, hey, listen, if you're talking about the taxes, your city property tax included with your county is less than being in the county. Um, there was a couple of uh leaders or a member of the board that I spoke to directly in regards to the type of area. [1:04:19, 1:04:26]: area which is wooded, two acres, no sidewalks. Um some want less [1:04:28, 1:04:48]: uh government, so to speak, um or or to s you know, to say in so many words. So having said that, if is this a public this is a public hearing. No, it's not a public hearing. But but once you're once you're done anybody else has comments, fine, then then we'll ask for a motion to accept this uh [1:04:48, 1:05:08]: Well, um action there were some concerns and some questions in regards to things that we're gonna bring up later. Um people still you know, trying to um ask questions and did not know necessarily w if a website would say one thing about trash pickup and then, you know, in brown bags and another one. [1:05:08, 1:05:28]: would say another. So those are things that we have to work out within the city. But um I will submit a letter to the remaining of the subdivision with those uh discussions and conclusions and also um we'll have a a talk town hall [1:05:28, 1:05:45]: within the district itself, but as of now from my understanding and I have not had anyone say to me, no, they want to stay. That is not what I've heard. And so out of respect by the law, um, I have stated this once before. [1:05:45, 1:05:46]: that if [1:05:46, 1:05:48]: The losses that we shall [1:05:49, 1:06:02]: Then we shall. Um, we can always vote it down and object, but I don't want anyone to be somewhere where they don't want to be. And I want the and I've said this one time before. [1:06:02, 1:06:22]: We are an example and we need to send a message to the county, our county commissioners that reject when they're voting, when people are trying to annex into our city, so that we don't have to go to the ARC, so that we don't have to go well, we don't have to go somewhere else and argue a point of a reasoning why they need [1:06:22, 1:06:30]: To come into the if they want to volunteer to come in here, the same goes for them. If they want to annex in, we should be cordial. [1:06:30, 1:06:35]: And we should do things within dignity with respect to the law. [1:06:36, 1:06:43]: And that's on both sides. And I'm a believer that we are the example and we're not gonna do tit for tat. [1:06:45, 1:06:46]: That's my stand. [1:06:47, 1:07:07]: If they don't have the comfortable conversation. Yeah, just basically, and less learn. With it's 2024 now. Everybody on the out there understands the importance of voting. When you decide you're surrounded by Stockbridge and you decide to leave the city, you don't get to vote for the mayor, you don't get to leave vote for me or anybody up here. So then your true [1:07:07, 1:07:20]: truly of representation without you have no representation in the area that you live. So certainly protecting your vote is extremely important. So at all costs, if you want to be able to vote [1:07:21, 1:07:28]: You stay in the city because if you don't, you have no word, you have no say in pretty much everything that d is done up here. [1:07:28, 1:07:42]: You have the right to vote if you do stay in the city and you are in the city and to choose your representation of the person that represents you or the majority of the area that surrounds you. But Miss Gann, I'll defer to you at this point. [1:07:43, 1:07:47]: We need a motion to accept this uh order. So moved. Was there a second? [1:07:49, 1:07:51]: Second. Okay, Mr. I was ask second. All in favor, please indicate. [1:07:53, 1:07:56]: Okay. Um Ms. Barber? [1:07:57, 1:07:58]: You in favor? [1:07:58, 1:08:08]: Thank you. Okay, so now the decision. Okay. Those nine uh individuals, those homes are out of the city of Stockbridge. I imagine that's effectively how soon does that effectively take place? Um [1:08:11, 1:08:22]: Around thirty to forty five days because we have to update the information into the uh D C A website so and it goes back to the county. So about thirty to forty five days. [1:08:22, 1:08:42]: So what this is August tw August twelfth. So we're talking about by the end of September? Yes, sir. All right. By the end of September, these uh nine individuals will be out of the City of Stockbridges and back into the county. All right, or in the county, which there are now anyway. Public hearing's next. And so on that note, here are the rules for a public hearing. Please mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. [1:08:42, 1:09:02]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out a form available at the table and hand it in to the clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant or their representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with any other relevant information. The council will be free to [1:09:02, 1:09:22]: Ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. East side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended by the discretion of the counsel. Please keep your comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. [1:09:22, 1:09:42]: We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the council, staff, or the audience. All comments will be made from the podium where you [1:09:42, 1:10:02]: You'll be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Fair to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his or her speech. [1:10:02, 1:10:15]: speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use entire ten minutes followed by the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. [1:10:15, 1:10:29]: The providing the presiding officer will call for a motion and a second to the motion and have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [1:10:30, 1:10:47]: On that note, uh item number five, public hearing, rezoning case of RZ two zero two four zero five, which is located in Council District five. Consideration under request for rezoning of property of four two five Country Club Drive to rezone the property from [1:10:47, 1:11:07]: OI office institutional to C two General Commercial to allow for a hotel boutique. The applicant is uh Stuart Hope. On behalf of Stockbridge or ProPro Pro Co excuse me LLC, the property is located in landlock 14 of District 7 with 6.92 acres within the Stockbridge City limits. Mr. [1:11:07, 1:11:09]: Dennison, please. [1:11:10, 1:11:18]: Uh once again the applicant is seeking to rezone from OI to C2 to allow for conversion of an existing assisted living facility to a hotel. [1:11:20, 1:11:24]: Here's um a map of the zoning in the area. [1:11:28, 1:11:32]: Here's the overlay map. The property is is uh identified by the star. [1:11:34, 1:11:54]: The zoning of the zoning history of the property of the uh of the property. The subject property was previously a hotel called the Inn at Eagles Landing. The construction of the hotel started in 1994 and was finished in 1995. The subject property was rezoned from Arya, multiple residential family to OI upon the request of Killiarn properties on November. [1:11:54, 1:12:02]: 8th, 2004, with the intended use as an assisted living facility. There's the original site plan and survey. [1:12:04, 1:12:24]: Um project information. Once again, the applicant plans to convert um an existing living facility to a boutique hotel. Currently the assisted living facility has 60 rooms with 68 parking spaces. In addition, the proposed boot hotel will include 10 employees with six being full-time and four being part-time. [1:12:24, 1:12:33]: The subject property is currently zone OI and OI does not allow hotel. That's the primary reason the applicant is seeking zoning to C2, which allows hotel. [1:12:36, 1:12:50]: Here's the surrounding hotel information. You have the Holiday Inn that located at 170 Country Club Drive, the Micro Tail Inn and Suites located at 195 Country Club, and located at 425 [1:12:51, 1:13:09]: Country Club, you have a a hotel that's coming up, and um you have the True Hilton which is under construction also at twenty seven twenty five Patrick Henry Highway. Uh after thorough analysis of this, um staff recommended approval. However, the pl the planning commission did recommend denial. Uh that's the [1:13:09, 1:13:11]: Okay. Council, any question for Mr. Anderson? [1:13:12, 1:13:30]: Go right in, please. Mr. Anderson, thank you for the presentation that you made to us. Um as you have stated, the property itself uh previously was a hotel and it was constructed uh as a hotel f in the original uh uh project for this for this um address. Yes, sir. [1:13:31, 1:13:37]: Okay, currently it serves uh as a senior community, is that correct? Yes, sir, assistant living facility. [1:13:37, 1:13:52]: Okay. And pretty much I think the provider had indicated that they own several properties uh in the area. Yes. And that uh this was one of the ones that they had uh purchased. Yes, one they have on the contract to purchase. I think it's contingent upon uh the zoning approval tonight. [1:13:52, 1:14:12]: Okay, and as you have indicated, there is already a hotel on Country Club Drive, which is the Mike Michel Inn. Yes, sir. Right. And then there is one that um is under construction, which is the True by Hilton, which is on Patrick Henry Parkway. Um Yes, that's correct. And you got the holiday inn at 175 Country Club Drive. [1:14:12, 1:14:32]: Holiday Inn which uh opened maybe about a year or so ago. So uh the area has seen uh a surgence in hotel occupancy uh that we need uh that we capacity that is needed in the area. And yesterday the mayor and I was at uh golf tournament over there, and certainly uh we want to be able to [1:14:32, 1:14:51]: look at that and look at uh all the criteria to determine uh what's necessary. And the recommendation from the staff was what again? Approval. Okay, and the approval was based on the criteria of the new ULDC classification that we passed, including the future land use map. [1:14:51, 1:14:58]: Yes, sir. And also the the the zoning history of the property also uh helped us reach that conclusion of approval. [1:14:59, 1:15:01]: Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. [1:15:02, 1:15:03]: Council, any other questions for Mr. Addison? [1:15:05, 1:15:08]: Uh don't give everybody's go okay, is is Miss Stewart Hope here? [1:15:08, 1:15:13]: Uh yeah the applicants. Is he will you come forward, sir? So? [1:15:16, 1:15:17]: Yes, no. [1:15:20, 1:15:32]: Evening, Mr. Mayor. Uh my name's John Jordan. Uh uh we actually represent the applicant with uh Hecht Walker Jordan uh PC, um 205 Corporate Center Drive, uh Sweep V, Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. [1:15:32, 1:15:52]: Okay. Well the reason why I asked you is I don't know if anything else that you wanted to mention to the council, see if they have any questions eventually I'm gonna open up to the public, but I didn't know if you had anything that you wanna that bring bring forward right now at all. Uh I did prepare a little uh presentation and then we do have the uh the the the come to the come to the mics or come to the mics on this side. We have the [1:15:52, 1:16:02]: Uh I did have a small presentation and the prospective buyers here as well to introduce themselves um for the boutique hotel. Okay. Um and I've got some slides I was just gonna [1:16:04, 1:16:06]: See if this uh will work. [1:16:23, 1:16:25]: All right, worked. Um [1:16:28, 1:16:48]: Again, good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. Um, we represent uh the applicant for this item as well as the owner for the property, which is uh Stockbridge Propco LLC. Um our client is currently under contract to sell the property to a hotel operator um that would like to turn this uh [1:16:48, 1:17:08]: uh well revert it back to a hotel before a nationally brand name upscale boutique hotel at this site. Um it will be very different from the existing hotels and mic uh I think the microtel and and whatnot. Um and it'll essentially regain its purpose that uh from the original hotel that was there in conjunction with [1:17:07, 1:17:11]: the the country club um years and years ago. Um [1:17:12, 1:17:32]: Uh Ms. Gervin, uh Miss Uh Venus Gervin is here tonight as well on behalf of uh her company, Emerald Hospitality Group, and they're uh the prospective buyer, and also they would be the hotel operator uh for this hotel. Um the location again is just uh the [1:17:32, 1:17:33]: Excuse me. [1:17:37, 1:17:42]: Sorry, I'm trying to figure out how to uh does he need some can you give him some help on this presentation? Make sure we go forward here. [1:17:45, 1:18:05]: There we go. Okay. Um, this is the Golden Crest facility, which is the subject property. The hotel is directly adjacent to the Eagles Landing Country Club. You can see uh Golden Crest right here in the front forefront, and in the back, you can see the uh Eagles Landing Country Club um uh pro shop and and the club. [1:18:05, 1:18:21]: The property is also, as you can see, it's right here, right adjacent or uh across the street from the large public shopping center and a and a large amount of uh other businesses right there in the area. Um [1:18:22, 1:18:42]: Unfortunately, as far as Golden Crest goes, it is gonna have to close down. Um it is falling on hard times, it is financially unsupportable at the time, and the owner has had to make the difficult decision to go ahead and proceed with closing it down, regardless of what happens tonight. It it just can't stay open. Um we do feel [1:18:42, 1:19:02]: For the residents that are there, but nothing can stay forever, especially if it's not supported financially. Um, and so it will have to close down. Um, we do have an opportunity, though, with this prospective buyer to have it open up as a very nice upscale boutique hotel that can complement uh the Eagles Landing Country Club. Um, it can provide additional. [1:19:02, 1:19:22]: Lodging for passers-by and tourists who can spend their money to support businesses locally. And it can serve as a great event center for golf tournaments, people from out of town that want to play golf, weddings. It's right next door, so wedding families for weddings can stay there. [1:19:22, 1:19:42]: Other events. It was originally envisioned as a hotel back in 94-95, and it served as a hotel for almost a decade. It was successful. And then it was rezoned when it converted to the current Golden Crest. What's unique about this, and it's been mentioned before, is that it was originally [1:19:42, 1:20:02]: The inn at Eagle's Landing. It was a hotel. The footprint is the exact same as the hotel was, and the footprint for this hotel will be reconverting it back to its original purpose, and the footprint will be virtually the same as well. The only thing that will be changing is a facelift to the exterior, and then the [1:20:01, 1:20:10]: The rooms and the bathrooms will get a facelift and be remodeled for whatever brand is chosen to their standards. [1:20:11, 1:20:31]: This is the the zoning map. You can see the the light blue is O and I. It's it's there's very little O and I in the areas, just sparsely uh around. Um but the pink is C2. That's what we're requesting. Um so the the majority of the properties that are in the vicinity of of this property are already C2. [1:20:31, 1:20:46]: C2 and commercial. So this would be consistent with the future land use map as as recognized by staff and council by taking off the Flume Amendment. It'd also be consistent with the other businesses in the area. [1:20:46, 1:21:06]: Uh this is also the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. You'll notice that this was captured into that overlay along with all the other commercial businesses. Um and so we find it you know fitting that with the commercial businesses that are in this overlay being C2 and other commercial, that we would our zoning would be consistent with that as well. [1:21:06, 1:21:09]: Mm-hmm. [1:21:10, 1:21:18]: Um, this is the uh old Eagles Landing in um site plan. You can see the footprint, or did see the footprint on there. [1:21:20, 1:21:20]: Um [1:21:21, 1:21:41]: is almost ex exactly identical to the current site plan for Goldencrest. And it'll go back to that as well. This is uh as you can see the entrance from Country Club Drive. It is uh uh a gated um uh community has the option to have security through a uh uh controlled access. This is the front. [1:21:41, 1:21:50]: With a grand staircase. Um it's got a lounge and large guest rooms. Um already existing. [1:21:52, 1:21:53]: Keeps going in and out. [1:22:10, 1:22:11]: Be gentle with it. [1:22:12, 1:22:13]: Thank you, Mr Gordon. [1:22:13, 1:22:33]: Thank you. Um and so it already has uh the the more than the bones to go ahead and convert back to a a very nice hotel. This is what we're looking at. This would be the repurposed uh hotel. Upscale, very different from what's already out there, and it's right next to Eagles Landing Country Club um to support their uh their building. [1:22:33, 1:22:42]: business there as well. Um these are renderings. Um you can tell the the footprint is almost virtually the same as as it currently is. [1:22:47, 1:23:02]: Um there will be a a restaurant and bar there. There's already um uh food service at the assisted living, so that won't have to be added. It can just be repurposed for this. Um and as far as um uh benefits for the county, um [1:23:03, 1:23:23]: This will bring new employment uh opportunities from uh hotel management to um maintenance staff, cleaning staff, and welcoming staff. So you will have uh additional employment opportunities, um, again, event lodging to complement Eagles Landing Country Club, tourist revenue, um, and additional hotel and [1:23:23, 1:23:43]: property taxes uh which can benefit the area as well. Sales tax, hotel taxes are are very important for the the livelihood. We just heard about um uh the the city needing taxes um to support its um uh police fire department that type of thing this is uh this would uh foster that that need [1:23:43, 1:24:03]: The subject property is not sustainable, as I mentioned. It will close down no matter what goes on tonight. However, this is a great opportunity to put a successful business in its place from what it used to be back to it, and it will prevent it from staying vacant once it's closed. [1:24:03, 1:24:23]: That that's the the big thing. We we can have a successful, thriving, upscale business when it closes, or it can be vacant. And nobody wants that to happen, especially for such a nice property like this. The site was originally developed and built out for a hotel, and it's still a great site for a hotel. Staff has recommended uh approval of of this uh request. And [1:24:23, 1:24:33]: We would greatly appreciate you following their recommendation and approving it as well. And uh with that I'd like to call up uh Venus to introduce herself and her company. [1:24:37, 1:24:40]: How do you have the answer? Okay, there. [1:24:41, 1:25:01]: Um, just real quick, I'd like to address the council. My name is Venus Skirvin, and I'm the purchaser and the uh developer of the property. And so my intention is to convert this into an upper upscale boutique hotel, uh, which will be um a luxury product, a little bit um higher guest experience for guests. And um my I just wanted to introduce myself. [1:25:01, 1:25:21]: And my partner, I'm Venus Gervin, and my partner is Mrs. Tracy Prigmore. I'm a local area architect. I've been in the business for about 20 years, revitalizing old properties. I take old hotels and turn them, you know, just bring them back to life and turn them back into the gyms that they originally were. [1:25:21, 1:25:29]: And so I'd like to do the same thing for Golden Crest. I'd like to take that, turn it into a nice upper-up scale boutique hotel property. [1:25:30, 1:25:31]: Um just a little bit about [1:25:32, 1:25:41]: Uh here are some of the other um properties in our portfolio that we own and manage. Um they are in the uh DC, Maryland, Virginia area here. [1:25:42, 1:26:02]: Uh as well as some properties in uh California. Now the Grand Reserve Inn will be um this is kind of a little bit closer to what we have in mind for the repositioning of Golden Crest. Uh this is a small uh luxury boutique inn, and we'll use uh a lot of the touches from this property into what we present. [1:26:02, 1:26:03]: Propose for a golden crest. [1:26:06, 1:26:26]: And then I'll s I'll skip over all of this stuff. Um just uh real quick, what I've um learned about this area is that there are a lot of hotels in the area, but you are missing the upper upscale market. There are no upper upscale hotels anywhere in this vicinity. And I feel like this can be a perfect opportunity for Stockbridge. [1:26:26, 1:26:28]: to bring that to the market. [1:26:29, 1:26:38]: There I from my research, there's a five to one ratio of unmet hotel demand to available supply here. And I feel like I can really fill that void with a nice property here. [1:26:43, 1:27:03]: Uh some of the I want to touch on some of the concerns that I've heard from the residents as I've um spoken with people here. Uh I just want to touch on some of the safety concerns. I just want to highlight uh there's already a very um extensive natural landscape buffer uh that already exists around the property. Uh there are uh noticeable grade changes. [1:27:03, 1:27:23]: Is that my time? No, go ahead. Okay. Um there's uh noticeable grade changes and elevation drops that surround the property already. Uh there's already a gate at the beginning of Country Club Drive. And from um my discussions with people, it seems like they're concerned about uh nefarious activity taking place in the park. [1:27:23, 1:27:43]: parking lot, so I feel like I can correct that by having that gate closed in the evenings as well as with an increased security monitoring system. You know, it'll be an actively managed property. So I feel like I can cut down on all of their concerns for that. As well as helping to remove blind spots that are currently in the area. [1:27:43, 1:27:47]: uh as well as some additional lighting and landscaping uh that will help as well. [1:27:48, 1:28:08]: Um and so, you know, community benefits, um, you know, we want to be active community partners um to this area. We want to help uh this area fill a missing void in the hotel marketplace. Uh we plan to um maintain a professionally managed property instead of it being a vacant building. Uh obviously um, you know, it bring in um you know at least [1:28:08, 1:28:22]: the half a million dollars and you know increased tax base um offer public amenities uh and job creation to the area so thank you for allowing me to introduce myself and I look forward to uh any questions that you have. Appreciate you okay Mr. Thomas go ahead please thank you mayor [1:28:23, 1:28:26]: And and good evening to to you two. [1:28:26, 1:28:33]: Um you may wanna stay you may wanna come back, please. Yes. And Ryan, could you join them just in case? [1:28:36, 1:28:36]: Good evening. [1:28:38, 1:28:58]: And thank you for your presentation. It is unfortunate that the assistant living facility will have to close down. My question is what what is the the time frame that the uh occupants, the tenants will have to uh evacuate the property? [1:28:58, 1:29:18]: Um well by law it's gotta be and and with the residents um agreements with the facility, it's gotta be at least thirty days uh notice. That notice is being prepared um currently and we should have it going out either at the end of the week or next week um that it will be shutting down. They may have uh more than thirty days, and maybe thirty to sixty, but at the very minimum it's gotta be thirty. [1:29:18, 1:29:38]: 30 days notice by law. They have my client has called around. There are several assisted living facilities that they were able to confirm do have availability to take on new residents. So there is that opportunity. And these are the Oaks at Stockbridge, which is literally a stone's throw from the current facility, the Oaks at Eagles. [1:29:38, 1:29:49]: Landing, which is about half a mile away, and Benton Village of Stockbridge, which is about a mile away. So there will be a place for the residents to transition that'll still be close to what they call home. [1:29:50, 1:29:53]: So y you indicated thirty days from the receipt. [1:29:54, 1:30:14]: of the notification. At least thirty days. But has not been um issued out at this point. That's right. So that clock hasn't hasn't started ticking. And it may be uh if they can if they can make it to longer than that in the transition, it may not just be thirty days, but uh the it's just not financially uh feasible to keep it open. So um all I can say [1:30:13, 1:30:33]: Say, is it uh there's at least a 30-day period. Um, and the management will get with the residents and work actively with them and their families to make this transition as as least disruptive as as possible. Um, and they'll be able to give them a more uh precise time period once the um the the buyer and the and the owner get together and come over. [1:30:33, 1:30:37]: Is there anyone here for management here this evening? [1:30:39, 1:30:59]: Yeah, you want to Okay. Well, I don't I don't have any questions. I just wanted to know if Dave was here just in case some questions may come up. Thank you, Mayor. I yield back. Mr. Alexander, go ahead please. Yeah, thank you for the presentation. And Miss Gervin had it requested a a previous she just wanted to uh talk. So certainly and um I think as was [1:30:59, 1:31:01]: indicated. So why don't you come up if you would? [1:31:01, 1:31:05]: This are Councilman Thomas, thank you for asking that question. [1:31:10, 1:31:30]: I think as was indicated uh that um this the chain the chain the operation there are numerous other sister or brother operations that you have uh around the area. Is that correct? We have two other operating facilities in the state of Georgia, one is in Smyrna and the other one isn't [1:31:29, 1:31:49]: is in Canton, Georgia. Okay. So certainly I think what uh what had been talked about was that um that there would be a transition period and that there would be that the rate for the residence there would be guaranteed or or maintained for at least uh a year's period of time. Is that correct? [1:31:50, 1:32:10]: I don't know anything about the the any rate guarantees. Um but what we do wanna do is be able to find that alternate living uh arrangements for the the current residents and uh try to make it as seamless as possible. I I I don't know of any rate guarantees or anything like that, but um as I mentioned it there's no way to keep this open. So [1:32:10, 1:32:20]: the residents are going to have to find alternate lodging um uh as much as we hate that um but uh I don't know anything about [1:32:21, 1:32:41]: Okay, what was indicated was that there were gonna be there were close facilities as you've indicated, which is the Oak City Eagles Landing and then the the other facility as well. And then there were l other facilities that the residents could be transferred to. They they confirmed that they have availability. They're not connected or affiliated with the Golden Crest um community. Um [1:32:41, 1:32:50]: Um so but there are those opportunities to for the for the residents to be able to move to a nearby uh facility. Um [1:32:52, 1:33:12]: Okay. Now certainly um as things go, and I think what you had indicated legally, as we understand, legally is the thirty days that's what's required in the law. That's not necessarily what would actually transpire, it's just legal notice of thirty days is required. Is that correct? [1:33:12, 1:33:16]: Right. That's not necessarily the plan, is that correct, sir? [1:33:17, 1:33:37]: No, we can certainly work with residents if they if we need to extend out to you know sixty days, but we are going to uh notice and discharge and close the community to state uh regulatory standards. Absolutely and Ryan, come up to the microphone as well. [1:33:37, 1:33:55]: Now generally as we go through the zoning, planning and zoning process, they're gonna have to submit plans. They're gonna have to those plans are gonna have to go through the review process. How long is that normally taking? Uh once they submit their building, we usually take we try to uh review the plans within ten working days. [1:33:55, 1:34:15]: Right, you review the plans and then certainly you would there would be some back and forth transition between whether or not this met the standard and what exactly we wanted the property to look like, feel like and be like to make sure that it actually uh goes.'Cause certainly I think what we generally have is some play that occurs over time. [1:34:15, 1:34:35]: It's never like it wouldn't I don't think I've seen too many that occurred in ten day. They occur the the initial comments or go back within thir within set within ten days, but certainly typically what what is typically that process like? I mean we're pretty efficient over there, so I mean they probably wouldn't submit until they [1:34:35, 1:34:55]: They've closed out all their due their due diligence with the residents and all that. So uh when they submit, they're they'll probably be ready to uh move with the renovations. So they they wouldn't submit right away, I don't think. So but once they submit, we try to get the applications back to the applicant within 10 days. But um also [1:34:55, 1:35:11]: Also we'll reali we will realize that that there's still a thirty day time, a minimum of thirty days that they notice that they have to give the residents. And I'm sure to go through closing and all that will take a while too. So it probably will be two months before they get anything f to us, a minimum of two months. [1:35:11, 1:35:31]: Right, that is the point that I wanted to make is that the legally the legal notice is thirty days, that's not necessarily what might transpire. And there was capacity uh in the general area and there certainly was some discussion about uh s uh some uh possibly the rate being maintained for that. Um [1:35:31, 1:35:51]: Uh for a period of time to make sure that the residents could transition to a facility uh in the area. But certainly we want to make sure that we're compassionate in this and understanding that it's a transition for the residents. But as you have stated, and I would like to hear directly from the gentleman who's running. [1:35:51, 1:36:00]: in it is that pretty much uh what has been stated is that the financial conditions of the uh c center as it is is unsustainable. [1:36:01, 1:36:14]: Yes, the build the current operations of the building are unsustainable and the building will have to close. It can no longer financially support itself. Right. I do understand that there are sixty rooms there, is that correct? Or someone? [1:36:14, 1:36:20]: Uh yes, we have sixty resident rooms at the moment. But Venus, how many rooms are you playing under? [1:36:21, 1:36:36]: Okay. About fifty five. But and then I was told uh the part of that financial um situation was that there was actually a low count of residents at the at the at the facility, is that correct? That is correct. [1:36:36, 1:36:41]: Okay, what was that number currently? Uh today we have nineteen residents. [1:36:42, 1:36:54]: Okay, so you have nineteen residents and and a capacity of sixty and with you're trying to take care of and maintain this facility that has capacity for sixty. Correct. Okay. All right, thank you. [1:36:54, 1:36:55]: Ms. Gang, go ahead, please. [1:36:57, 1:37:17]: I can't think of the term right now, I have brain freeze, but a tenant has a lease, right? They're leased in the the Southern Crescent right now, the there are different leases are there at different time frames. Um each person that's there right now has a lease. And you have to [1:37:16, 1:37:31]: To honor that lease, correct? That's right. All right. So 30 days would be if someone didn't pay their rent. It's not when you have a lease. So it's based off of [1:37:32, 1:37:52]: It's not tennis and sufferance. It's not tennis and col I can't think of the name right now because I'm oh I got a complete freeze. A tennancy at will. Tennessee. It's a month-to-month lease. Right. Well, not necessarily. It's not a month to month. It's when you are in the property by right because you leased the property for a time being. So let's say they have a five [1:37:52, 1:37:54]: five year lease or they have a two year lease. [1:37:55, 1:38:05]: Or they, you know, and each person moved in at different points and periods of time. You have to go by the expiration date of their lease or you're buying them out of their lease, correct? [1:38:05, 1:38:25]: Well, for these leases, and and I've got um the first page up there, it does say that the admission agreement is considered a month-to-month lease and may be canceled at any time by either party with a thirty as a type of thirty-day notice unless a medical circumstance arises which requires the immediate departure of the resident. So this it's a it's a month to month. [1:38:25, 1:38:29]: It's a standard month to month lease. All of them have been signed that way? [1:38:29, 1:38:32]: Yes, that's yes. That's how the industry operates. [1:38:32, 1:38:49]: Okay. So nobody has a long term lease. Everything is every month to month. Everything we do is month to month. Yes, that's correct. All right. So that means that the tenant expected and is aware that their lease is month to month when they first um [1:38:50, 1:38:57]: came in. What whether they signed a lease or not, they're aware that they signed a month to month lease. Um usually [1:38:57, 1:39:17]: They are locked in for a year or two or three, sometimes five, depending on the type of home it is. And then month to month is not uncommon for senior facilities as well. So I was just curious about that because if it wasn't month to month, then we would have to go based off the expiration date of each. [1:39:17, 1:39:18]: Kenneth, Lisa. [1:39:18, 1:39:24]: And that's right, and and we definitely would be honoring what what their lease agreement was. [1:39:24, 1:39:30]: Thank you. Any other questions from the council? Yes. Uh go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Um [1:39:30, 1:39:50]: I I really don't have a problem with the future, and I do understand, and I looked over uh some of the rendering last night, it is beautiful. So I really don't have a problem with that, and I'm I'm glad someone is here for management. I I guess my biggest concern, and you pretty much answered some of the questions. I just want to make sure that [1:39:50, 1:39:53]: That the tenants that are there [1:39:53, 1:40:00]: they have full opportunity to relocate. And so I guess my follow up question is if if there's a family [1:40:01, 1:40:05]: that's someone having a problem in relocating. [1:40:05, 1:40:17]: How sensitive would management be um with the timeline? Hopefully you would not just evict someone because that they may be having some issues and relocating. [1:40:18, 1:40:27]: We are required by state law to discharge the resident to a safe environment. So we can't we have to discharge them somewhere safe for them to go. [1:40:28, 1:40:30]: Well that's that's good to know. Thank you, Mayor. [1:40:31, 1:40:41]: Any other comments from Ms. Barber? Yes, that was actually one of the questions, concerns that I had. So thank you for sta sharing that. I know most of the residents there. Um [1:40:41, 1:40:42]: Down fixed incomes. [1:40:43, 1:40:45]: Um, I think about if it was me. [1:40:45, 1:40:48]: Um living there. And [1:40:49, 1:40:55]: I know that there are other senior living facilities really close by. I just wonder what their [1:40:56, 1:40:58]: um admission rates are. [1:40:59, 1:41:01]: Um as far as cost, the living. [1:41:01, 1:41:04]: Um compared to what they were currently paying. [1:41:05, 1:41:25]: Um I'm certain that you all may be working something out with the other facilities to make sure that we take care of those existing residents. I d myself I don't know about uh the cost side of it. Um I haven't been in that level of discussions with management, but I know that that the transition is going [1:41:25, 1:41:35]: to be with compassion. Um I don't know I I wish I had the other rates and had that answer for you, but I I just don't management probably does. I just don't have it here for you tonight. [1:41:35, 1:41:37]: I get it. I get it. Um [1:41:38, 1:41:39]: The current owner. [1:41:40, 1:41:40]: has right. [1:41:41, 1:41:42]: They have a right to sell. [1:41:43, 1:41:44]: For whatever reason. [1:41:44, 1:41:46]: Um whether it be financial [1:41:46, 1:41:48]: Or they just desire to do something else. [1:41:49, 1:41:50]: I get in. [1:41:50, 1:41:51]: It's just [1:41:53, 1:42:01]: care about folks, especially the elderly. So just want to make sure we do right by them. Um one of the questions I have is regards to [1:42:02, 1:42:05]: The access you mentioned about the gate. [1:42:05, 1:42:06]: The entrance way. [1:42:07, 1:42:08]: I um [1:42:08, 1:42:11]: I watched the meeting with the Planning Commission. [1:42:11, 1:42:14]: And there was a question re um [1:42:14, 1:42:22]: One of the residents who live in the adjacent neighborhood mentioned about access into the villages. Um [1:42:22, 1:42:42]: Other than the buffers, the trees, is there anything else um that you all will do to kind of restrict access into the neighboring subdivision? Um not not at this time. Um I would like to just kind of get in there and operate and see what kind of issues arise and address those as [1:42:42, 1:42:43]: They come up. [1:42:43, 1:42:45]: Gotcha. Thank you. [1:42:46, 1:42:48]: Any other questions from the council? [1:42:49, 1:42:49]: Okay. [1:42:50, 1:43:03]: If not, thank you for that time so far. And what we're gonna do, ladies and gentlemen, no, no, you can go s have a sit down, please. Have a sit down. Go ahead. And what we're gonna do, we're gonna open up for a public hearing. And so I'm gonna offer this to the r uh individuals that are here. [1:43:03, 1:43:04]: So [1:43:04, 1:43:23]: We'll start on well this is for uh that are in favor. In favor for this to occur. In favor for this to occur, I'm gonna start on this in my far left, my left side. If you're in favor for this to occur, with the transition to occur, please line up on the left hand side right there. If you're in favor for this to occur, if you want to make f uh positive comments to this. [1:43:23, 1:43:24]: Anybody else? All right. [1:43:25, 1:43:45]: In the middle, anybody in the middle that want to make any uh comments indicating that uh this is something that you would like to see, this is a positive thing, please line up on the left side. Anybody on my far right, any comments that you want to make for this to occur, for this to occur on my far right, please line up way on the left hand side. All right, so [1:43:45, 1:43:55]: I'm gonna call you up and give you a name and address. We'll get uh we've got a total of ten minutes overall, but we'll work that out. And come on up and uh make your comments, sir, and uh we'll ru put it uh in the record. [1:43:57, 1:44:09]: Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh Mr. Mayor and Council members, my name is Charles Marshall. My wife and I live at 140 Somerset Hills, McDonough, Georgia, which is within the city limits of Stockbridge. [1:44:09, 1:44:21]: Uh it's also within the Eagles Landing Country Club subdivision. I think we've talked about that this evening. As you know, the Eagles Landing Country Club subdivision is right next door to the property being discussed this evening. [1:44:21, 1:44:25]: And we have a pretty big stake in the development plans in that area. [1:44:26, 1:44:32]: The property being discussed this evening used to be a very upscale, as been mentioned before, very upscale [1:44:32, 1:44:38]: Uh, full service hotel that provided overnight lodging for many of the visitors and fans. [1:44:38, 1:44:40]: of the professional golf tournaments. [1:44:41, 1:44:44]: And national events that the Eagles Landing Country Club sponsored years ago. [1:44:45, 1:44:52]: Our country club now high after major renovations has now started sponsoring these national events again. [1:44:52, 1:44:55]: The proposed hotel would be a great addition to our community. [1:44:56, 1:45:00]: And would complement the ongoing development efforts of the city of Stockbridge. [1:45:02, 1:45:08]: As you know, the Henry County Coalition Committee has always been a strong advocate for improving our community. [1:45:08, 1:45:17]: Within the city. As president of our 78-member organization, I have contacted many of our members who mostly live in the Eagles Landing area. [1:45:17, 1:45:23]: And there is great excitement around the idea of bringing this hotel development back to this property. [1:45:24, 1:45:29]: We feel that the renovation and reopening of this hotel project would add to the strong retail development. [1:45:29, 1:45:40]: Supporting our community and we strongly support the rezoning of this property that allows this hotel project to move forward. Thank you. Thank you. Next individual, please, name and address. [1:45:45, 1:45:51]: Good evening. My name is Susan Cloudus and I reside at one two three Prestwick Way South. [1:45:51, 1:45:58]: Stockbridge, Georgia, in the villages of Eagles Landing, which is directly adjacent to the proposed rezoning. [1:45:59, 1:46:02]: My husband and I have lived in the community for nineteen years. [1:46:03, 1:46:12]: We've been members of the country club for 29. So we were there when it was the Eagles landing in. Tonight I wear a couple of different hats. [1:46:12, 1:46:18]: I am chair of the board for the board of governors for Eagles Landing Country Club. [1:46:18, 1:46:24]: I spoke today to the owner of Eagles Landing Country Club and they stand in full support. [1:46:24, 1:46:26]: of the rezoning of this property. [1:46:27, 1:46:29]: to a boutique hotel. [1:46:30, 1:46:50]: I also wear the hat of president of the board at the Villages Property Owners Association. While I can't speak for all of the residents there, I can speak to the board members who I've individually polled, and they are in full support of the rezoning. [1:46:50, 1:46:58]: As I have been around Stockbridge for a long time, I have watched the growth happen in the last four to five years. [1:46:59, 1:47:19]: The question I would ask is: why do people pay to go to a Ritz-Carlton when there is a Hilton right down the street? The reason is people want a more upscale experience. I truly believe from what I have read and what I have observed from the applicants. [1:47:19, 1:47:25]: Who wants to um open up the inn at Eagle's Landing, rezone it to that boutique hotel? [1:47:25, 1:47:27]: That this will be a step [1:47:27, 1:47:47]: And just elevating the city of Stockbridge to where all the residents want it to be. We want to be that city that we look at on the north side and other areas to be in competition with them in terms of what we have to offer. I sincerely appreciate the opportunity. [1:47:47, 1:47:57]: to speak to you tonight and it is our hope that we can move forward with this next step in the wonderful future for the city of Stockbridge. [1:47:57, 1:47:57]: Thank you. [1:47:58, 1:48:00]: Next individual, please. Name and address. [1:48:05, 1:48:15]: Good evening. My name is Brenda Culpepper, 837 Cog Hill, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. Thank you all for this opportunity to be heard. [1:48:15, 1:48:35]: I am president of the Eagles Landing Property Owners Association, which has eight hundred and sixty-seven doors, with an additional thirty-three that could potentially be added to our coffers. I'm also president of the Eagles Landing Community Association. We have 2,000 per uh residential. [1:48:35, 1:48:55]: Homes and 425 commercial resident commercial businesses in the area up and down Eagles Landing Parkway hither and yon. I also chair, because of the Eagles Landing Community Association, all of the subdivisions that are in proximity to the new hotel that's on its way down there. [1:48:55, 1:49:15]: The street. Um, I want to just say progress is important and change is inevitable. And it is time for us to just make a change. We're gonna have to go on to the next now. If you were at the country club yesterday, it was the first time in the ten and a half years that I've been here that there was no [1:49:15, 1:49:16]: Yeah. [1:49:17, 1:49:37]: In the country club. And all of these, we had these golfers from around the country that couldn't stay in a luxury hotel because we didn't have one. So what we need to do is be change makers and change the situation for our good. I think it would be a wonderful addition to the city of Stockholm. [1:49:36, 1:49:46]: Stockbridge and we should do all that we can to make this place the South Atlanta place, the best place to live. Thank you for your time. [1:49:46, 1:49:47]: Thank you. [1:49:48, 1:49:50]: Next gentleman, your name and address, please. [1:49:52, 1:50:12]: Good evening. My name is Keith Thompson. I live on the golf course at Eagles Landing for twenty five years. I run the US uh uh hospitality group for Avis and Young and we sell hotels. I have a deep understanding of of hotels, of upscale hotels, mid scale economy hotels, and living at Eagles Landing, we uh were there [1:50:12, 1:50:19]: when it was the end at Eagles Landing. So we think it'd be a great addition to the community and we have all of our full support behind it. [1:50:20, 1:50:23]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Next gentleman, your name and address, please. [1:50:27, 1:50:47]: Good evening, my name's Rex Cagle. I live at 109 Hickory Trail in Winsong, right across the street from the property. I've been there for 25 years and also remember when the inn at Eagles Landing was built, held many, many, many meetings there uh for church and social events, and we need a meeting space of that. [1:50:47, 1:50:51]: caliber that we really don't have. So I'm in full support of this. [1:50:51, 1:51:01]: Thanks, I appreciate it. On that note, anybody that's against this being a t changed into the hotel, anybody against and my far left side who wants to speak. Anybody against? Line up on the left side, please. [1:51:02, 1:51:04]: Okay from the left side. Anybody else in the middle? [1:51:04, 1:51:24]: that would want the middle right in front of me that wants to speak against this particular uh e uh event happening to hotel to be converted over. Okay. Anybody on the on far my far right that wants to speak. Come on line up on this side please. On the other side, please. Okay. All right. Anybody else? Okay, so I have three individuals. All right. Uh I guess the clock is restarted. [1:51:24, 1:51:30]: Ms. Uh Holliday. Ma'am, could you come to the uh to the mic and give your name and address please? [1:51:32, 1:51:52]: Good evening, everybody. My name is Melinda Childs. I am um from Stockbridge. I live at 113 Ventura Trail. I'm also employed at this present time at Golden Crest. Um I I'm I'm trying not to get emotional. So if you could just um work. [1:51:52, 1:52:00]: With me. All right. Um, I hear about the lavish things that everyone wants to bring to Stockbridge. [1:52:01, 1:52:08]: But I'm not hearing about the compassion when it comes to the residents that reside at Golden Crest. [1:52:10, 1:52:19]: What a time we are in, we are living in right now, with this inflation. Not everybody has the luxury. [1:52:19, 1:52:26]: of up and moving in 30 days, nor do they have the luxury of moving in 60 days. [1:52:27, 1:52:47]: We didn't talk about what's provided at Golden Crest. When you say that you don't have the money, we provide love. We provide a family. This is their home. Could you imagine being forced out of your home? Because this is a home for some people. Because people want luxury. [1:52:47, 1:52:50]: [6771.4, 6778.6]: What hurt me the most is that when I'd have taken these residents over the time since the sign went up. [1:52:59, 1:53:19]: We did not have 19 when a sign went up. We had over 30. We had about 36. But the fear of being homeless drove some out. And those that cannot leave, as they said, their openings, there are people still waiting. But there are people that are waiting. [1:53:19, 1:53:31]: waiting for an answer today. And they're not waiting for us to come back and say that you have to go. They're waiting for us to come back to say that you can stay in your home. [1:53:33, 1:53:37]: That is all that I have to say today. [1:53:38, 1:53:45]: is that I'm more concerned about them still having a home than someone having luxury. [1:53:46, 1:53:47]: Thank you. [1:53:48, 1:53:50]: Next individual, name and address please. [1:53:52, 1:54:12]: Hi, I'm Sophia Oliver. I'm at 113 Valerie Court. I'm here in Stockbridge as well. Um I've been nursing 32 years. I've been doing this a long time. I was at Golden Crest seven years. I left for a year and came back. Um the ho the the facility was a hotel before I get it. I understand. Um I know, right? [1:54:12, 1:54:19]: Right now, um this young lady wanna turn it into another hotel. Didn't work the first time, prayerfully, you know, I don't know. [1:54:19, 1:54:23]: I don't I d my thing is the residents they say that facilities are close by. [1:54:24, 1:54:44]: Everybody is full to capacity. We already been checking around for that. The Benton House is full. Oaks, both oaks are full to capacity. These people have nowhere to go. My thing is, if you're gonna close it down, close it down. I don't care. But my thing is they don't have nowhere to go right now. I got residents at my facility that's I don't even have family members to come see. [1:54:44, 1:54:44]: See ya. [1:54:44, 1:54:45]: We their family. [1:54:46, 1:54:48]: If I had a house big enough, I'd take them all home with me. [1:54:49, 1:55:09]: You know, that's just how I feel right now. I mean, I know y'all gonna do whatever y'all wanna do regardless. I got families that's been there, family members here that come to support what we got going on right now. It just hurt my heart to know that um you got people that's honestly wanna turn this and back into I was there I was there yesterday the whole weekend when the golf people was up there hitting it with the music. I was [1:55:09, 1:55:15]: Out there looking and seeing how things were, I get it. If y'all want a hotel that bad, turn your country club into a hotel. [1:55:15, 1:55:20]: And and and and f do it like that. That's how I feel about that. Thank you. Thank you. Sir, please, your name and address. [1:55:29, 1:55:29]: Evening. [1:55:30, 1:55:33]: Another third Indian number stock reached Georgia. [1:55:34, 1:55:54]: Um, I do want to start first by saying that I do appreciate the concept. I appreciate what's being proposed, and I appreciate the excellence of the country club and the area and the equal landing community. But I do want to point out that my mother is a two-year-old dementia patient. [1:55:54, 1:56:14]: She is resin, I think golden crest. Um, I do also want to point out that hearing tonight that the facility is in such turmoil that it will close definitely is the first that we've heard of it. We've not been told that at all. So to come here in a public hearing and hear and soon. [1:56:14, 1:56:34]: The facility will be shut down with no notice whatsoever. That to me shows a level of non-compassion towards not only just the residents but their families and the entire community. And I feel like there's been somewhat of a whitewash potentially of what actually the plan is. And again, I do respect progress. I understand it's a necessity. [1:56:34, 1:56:51]: I understand the need for the development. I get it and I understand the financial impact that it would have. That part I don't deny. But this next part I do want to read because I will get emotional about it. But I just do want to say that this is more than just a facility for memory care. [1:56:51, 1:56:53]: This is a community. [1:56:54, 1:57:04]: And if you're familiar at all with the effects of dementia, you know that one of the key components for a smooth management and transition on a day-to-day is that of consistency. [1:57:05, 1:57:25]: What this community provides for not only the residents but for their families and the staff is a sense of consistency in community. When any or all of that is thrown into disarray, nothing but confusion, chaos, and overall uncertainty are the results. Many of the residents in this golden press do not have families. [1:57:25, 1:57:43]: to support them. So their fellow residents and the staff have become their family. And the staff in many ways become their own support system. And they are the consistency that they require in their lives to thrive or in some cases to simply exist while dealing with this horrendous debilitating disease. [1:57:45, 1:58:00]: In a cultural climate where divisiveness is the norm, what are we to say to our loved ones when suddenly their home is taken from them and their solidarity, self-esteem, and independence, not to mention their levels of confidence and support, are ripped. [1:58:00, 1:58:20]: From them simply by the desire for a boutique hotel. For those who have lived their entire lives through adversity, struggles, fights for equality, equity, and inclusion, turning against them in their golden years when they need us the most will only serve to discredit their entire life's work and [1:58:20, 1:58:22]: their worthiness by tossing them aside. [1:58:25, 1:58:39]: Upon viewing Golden Crest, when we toured all of the communities that you mentioned, we toured when looking for a place for Mama to be. When she walked in the doors of Golden Crest, the first thing out of her mouth was, this feels like home. [1:58:40, 1:59:00]: She had been adamant that leading up to all of this, I have a house, I don't need to go anywhere, I'm gonna stay home, figure out home care. But we didn't have that financial situation to where we could afford home health care. And it is true that okay, maybe there are other spaces available. I I don't know the exact, but [1:59:00, 1:59:20]: The price range is quite higher than what is offered at Cole Prince. And my mother and her husband do not have the affordability to be moved to a new space. If they're willing to honor their contract and provide the rate that they contracted for, then that could be an option. Yes, I think that needs to be looked at. [1:59:20, 1:59:40]: But like I said, there's been no communication from the owner of the facility, to the staff, to the residents, to their families. So that part of it makes me very, very leery as to what bill of goods has been sold. So I'll finish with that. And again, I just want to say I do respect the Eagles Landing community. I understand its significance in the area. [1:59:40, 1:59:41]: And in the state. [1:59:42, 1:59:45]: But I do also hope that you guys will consider [1:59:46, 1:59:50]: the significance of the people that count on that space to live their lives. [1:59:53, 2:00:05]: Thank you. All right, so um sir, I need to and and the the man not you you're fine, sir. The management for from Golden Crest. I need for you to come back up uh please answer a couple of things here. [2:00:09, 2:00:20]: Now you you gentlemen heard everything I heard, all right? So the compassion, the notification. You need to try to explain that if you can for these folks here. The note the lack of notification indicating that first heard this year. [2:00:20, 2:00:40]: and any type of assistance. You talked about the the contract or lease that is in reference to the the the legal ramifications and what you have to do legally in reference to that. And and there are you say there are other places in the media area which they are. You know, uh have you really reached out to them to see whether or not those vacancies do exist and how can you potentially help these people. So can you [2:00:40, 2:00:42]: We further explain before we make the decision here. [2:00:42, 2:00:43]: So that [2:00:43, 2:00:46]: And get please on a mic, sir. If you get closer to the mic, please. [2:00:47, 2:00:47]: Oh. [2:00:48, 2:01:08]: Uh just from the information that I've been given from my client, they have called around and there is availability, sufficient availability for the 13 residents that are there. Um the business is closing down. I mentioned uh during the presentation that they're preparing the notices this week. They're gonna go out either later this week or next week. [2:01:08, 2:01:18]: Um I as far as the communication before, um I I couldn't tell ya, I've just gotten involved in this in the last couple of weeks. Um, but uh the notices are being prepared right now. [2:01:18, 2:01:20]: Can you add anything else, sir? [2:01:22, 2:01:35]: We will discharge the residents and close the community to the state of Georgia's guidelines. The is not a question of if the community's gonna close, it's the community will close. [2:01:37, 2:01:41]: All right. Mayor. Yeah, I was gonna say, you go ahead, please. [2:01:42, 2:01:43]: So I'm I'm a little um [2:01:46, 2:01:50]: These are these are the tough times. These are when you hear the stories about [2:01:51, 2:01:57]: the patients with dementia or fam people who family don't come to visit. [2:01:57, 2:01:59]: That turp touch your heart, right? [2:01:59, 2:02:01]: I understand it's a business [2:02:02, 2:02:04]: But we also have to do it with respect. [2:02:05, 2:02:05]: Right. [2:02:05, 2:02:09]: In in in a fashion. Thirty days is definitely not enough time. [2:02:09, 2:02:10]: For any w I mean [2:02:10, 2:02:13]: It's it's hard for a person with that's working. [2:02:14, 2:02:20]: You're talking about seniors with health conditions and are are living out their golden years. [2:02:21, 2:02:21]: And so [2:02:22, 2:02:25]: I would ask that the owner have some compassion. [2:02:26, 2:02:31]: Um in regards to that. I'm I'm concerned and I know you said that [2:02:33, 2:02:35]: It's gonna close down regardless. [2:02:35, 2:02:42]: But on the Facebook page here, it says that you're open for business and you're welcoming new patients. And that was June thirty first. [2:02:44, 2:02:45]: July thirty first. [2:02:46, 2:02:49]: It says welcome home to Golden Caress at Eagles Landing. [2:02:49, 2:02:51]: We're accepting new residents. [2:02:52, 2:02:54]: Please stop by our community anytime. [2:02:55, 2:02:59]: For a tour or contact Patrice Washington, who is that? [2:02:59, 2:02:59]: Yeah. [2:03:00, 2:03:05]: Where is she? At seven Patrice, can you come up here for me, please? [2:03:09, 2:03:20]: At seven seven zero three eight nine three one one eight any questions you might have. And then they give their hashtags and they have a brochure out here. That's July thirty first. [2:03:21, 2:03:23]: And then four days ago. [2:03:25, 2:03:26]: Ready to find your new home. [2:03:27, 2:03:37]: Book a tour of the community today. Discover the perfect blend of comfort and support. Click the link to schedule your visit now. [2:03:38, 2:03:41]: So if you're closing down. [2:03:44, 2:04:04]: And I I listen, I was here um back in the day with the Eagles Landing Inn. It was very helpful. I was here when they had the women PGA tournaments and I lived in Eagles Landing and we appreciate the hotel. I I lived in the Eagles Landing community. Um we appreciate the [2:04:05, 2:04:12]: um, hotel for your guest and for everyone else. And I I still think it's a great idea, especially if the owner [2:04:13, 2:04:24]: is saying that there's no hope, but the owner's not here. The owner of Southern Crescent's not here. Golden Crest is not here. And I don't want to be sold a dream and find out that they were pushed off or nobody [2:04:24, 2:04:41]: bothered to tell them about the meeting or they didn't come or they bought out. I wanna know the details from that owner because your advertising, sir, maybe you can answer that or ma'am, maybe you can answer that. This is July thirty first. That was a not too long what's today? [2:04:41, 2:04:42]: The twelfth. [2:04:42, 2:04:44]: That was a little less. [2:04:45, 2:04:47]: And four days ago, advertising again. [2:04:48, 2:04:55]: So I need some kind of answers because I you know, although it's business and I I do support a hotel. [2:04:56, 2:04:58]: I can't sleep at night. [2:04:59, 2:05:00]: I still have to sleep. [2:05:02, 2:05:09]: I still have a heart. I had grandparents. I have aunts and uncles. So I'm not gonna just let it go. [2:05:10, 2:05:14]: By someone's words. Someone's gonna have to tell me why this is being advertised here today. [2:05:15, 2:05:25]: Well, from what I know, I wasn't told that we were closing. This evening is the first time that I'm hearing this. So we are still accepting residents. [2:05:26, 2:05:28]: And we plan to [2:05:29, 2:05:31]: Until we get that official notice that we're closing. [2:05:35, 2:05:39]: You sir, do you have anything else you need to add to that? All right. Go ahead, Lukisa. [2:05:40, 2:05:41]: You got anything else? [2:05:41, 2:05:46]: I you can Sir, can you tell me what what the deal is with that? Where's the owner and [2:05:47, 2:06:03]: Can you tell me about why they're advertising four days that they're still open and no one the residents aren't sure and although thir don't there's only thirteen remaining because they're afraid and they've heard and got wind of how many left? Nineteen? [2:06:04, 2:06:05]: Nineteen remaining. [2:06:06, 2:06:09]: Should we really talk to him for a moment? Can we can we find out [2:06:10, 2:06:13]: At least like I'm not comfortable with voting. [2:06:14, 2:06:27]: until I hear from an owner or they at least give some kind of respect to these to people, the the the the p the children who have put their family into these homes. [2:06:28, 2:06:32]: You're you're saying thirty days and then you give me that boilerplate lawyer talk. [2:06:33, 2:06:37]: that you've been coached to give. I'm not down for that. It's not gonna work. [2:06:38, 2:06:40]: I don't need an applause for it. [2:06:41, 2:06:45]: This is this is this is the way it works. Like [2:06:46, 2:06:48]: We're still human beings. [2:06:48, 2:06:51]: The world still needs love and that's the problem we have. [2:06:53, 2:06:54]: So [2:06:55, 2:06:59]: I'm not gonna vote for it today. I don't care what wha um my colleagues can do whatever they want to do. [2:07:00, 2:07:08]: But I need to know from the owner. I need to hear a letter and I need to have letters given out to residents before I can make a decision. [2:07:09, 2:07:10]: On something like this. [2:07:12, 2:07:31]: I cannot see some I don't know what the illnesses are of patients and you're just putting them out on the street and then are they gonna be charged to stay at the hotel you gotta renovate or you're gonna have to evict them out? No one's getting any type of stipend to move out because it's month to month. [2:07:31, 2:07:39]: And it just sounds like a really bad deal. And they may not be slum lords, but this sure is not a right this is not a good way of doing things. [2:07:39, 2:07:42]: It's not a good way of handling business and I'm not pleased. [2:07:43, 2:07:44]: So [2:07:45, 2:07:47]: Find a way to make it right. [2:07:49, 2:07:51]: Okay, Mr. Barrett, go ahead, please. [2:07:51, 2:08:11]: To piggyback off of Councilwoman Gantt, my my question, you you mentioned earlier that that there was a um rule that you couldn't just put people out on the street, that you had to put them into a safe place. Elaborate on that process. What does that look like? Explain what the safe place looks like. So if if there [2:08:11, 2:08:26]: used to a certain rate and they can't find that rate at one of the facilities that are in the state within, you know, proximity, where would you dischar how would how does that work? Elaborate on how the discharge works to this safe place. [2:08:29, 2:08:42]: Um I was just asking uh my client. He doesn't have that information himself and I'm not a uh nurse uh nursing uh home lawyer. I don't know the law myself into that. Um so I unfortunately can't answer your question on that. Um [2:08:43, 2:08:44]: Uh but [2:08:45, 2:08:51]: I I was an the information that I've gotten is that it cannot [2:08:52, 2:09:12]: Stay open, it does not have the money to do that. I don't know why there were advertisements. I really don't. I don't know if they have a marketing team that just wasn't, you know, there's a disconnect uh information-wise. I know when things close down, especially when um businesses are out of money, there's sort of like a fog of war type thing. Like you don't want to tell everybody that we're close. [2:09:12, 2:09:22]: closing you know next week and then all the employees that we need are, you know, they leave. So I I just couldn't tell you man management wise [2:09:22, 2:09:28]: why that advertisement's there, I I don't know. I just do know that it was told to me emphatically that [2:09:29, 2:09:32]: It it it this is horrible about having to displace but [2:09:33, 2:09:53]: it's not gonna be able to continue to house residents that much longer. It's gonna have to close down. And yeah, and I and I understand that. And so also my my second concern is to the staff as well, because a lot of them have dependency on their income. Is there some type of severance in at work or something type to to help them [2:09:53, 2:10:13]: transition to uh other employment because a lot of the people who work here tonight said they just learned about it tonight as well. And so if we're talking about a 30-day transition as well, we have residents of Stockbridge who work there who may not have a a job in the next 30 days as well. So they could very well we don't know every [2:10:13, 2:10:33]: Financial circumstances that could not just hit the residents, but it could also hit your employees and staff as well. Absolutely. And that's concerned too. And and again, I don't have that level of detail for management, how they're dealing with HR and severance or if if anything like that. Um, I know that they have uh a facility in Smyrna and they would love to be able to take good care of [2:10:33, 2:10:53]: of their employees and if they're and try to if they wanna come up and drive up and tran uh commute to Smyrna, possibly transferring there. So can so can that happen? Can there be some internal uh mechanisms and conversations about the staff transitioning to the other locations that are in your network? Can there be some communications and [2:10:53, 2:11:13]: and and and plans and transitions for the staff who are there to go to some of the open beds in the other facilities so that the transition is smooth and and and easy. I know we're s we're we're we're talking in general terms that, you know, it's gonna close. I know it's gonna close. I know it's gonna close, but we still have to prepare for it. We can't just say it's gonna close without [2:11:13, 2:11:33]: Anything we do, we prepare for it. And so when you got a lot of moving parts like what you guys have and you have the residents there as well, we we we get the inevit the inevitability of the six situation and the circumstance. How do we get 19 people to move in the next 30 days safely, securely, and staff to help them train [2:11:33, 2:11:34]: Transition to not [2:11:35, 2:11:55]: have gaps in employment. How can can we address that tonight? Or if not tonight, when can we at least address that so that we can feel comfortable with the process? Cause I don't think nobody here wants to, you know, try to force the hand, but there is a compassionate part here from everyone in this room to make sure that those res residents transition safely so that [2:11:54, 2:12:00]: everyone can move the business forward. Sure, sure. And um [2:12:07, 2:12:27]: Um I just wanted to make sure um because I again I don't have that information, but um we do understand it's it's important and to have a methodical transition. If if the uh the council wishes, we'd be glad to bring to table this and bring some and bring management uh management team up here, they can talk. [2:12:27, 2:12:33]: about more of the details of the transition. I was just here about the land use, not you know. [2:12:33, 2:12:37]: Sorry. That's another Mr. Thomas Quinn, please. [2:12:38, 2:12:52]: I I I think that's the best thing we heard today about tabling it,'cause uh the the vibration that I'm getting, you probably won't get the vote tonight. And and I think all of us and I'm pretty sure a lot of folks here [2:12:52, 2:12:54]: Have family members. [2:12:54, 2:13:10]: And know of the elderly that are going through these issues. Um personally, um I have some relatives that are at home uh being cared for by, you know, siblings and [2:13:11, 2:13:13]: This is this is this is [2:13:13, 2:13:14]: It's hard. [2:13:15, 2:13:17]: And and I can see and feel. [2:13:18, 2:13:30]: uh the compassion from the staff and and I and I get that and I understand and I understand too about the future. All of the comments that was in favor, we get that. And we're all on board with that. [2:13:31, 2:13:34]: Бо ви кана степ овер. [2:13:35, 2:13:38]: The humanity of this. [2:13:39, 2:13:42]: So I I would say that the owner need to come. [2:13:43, 2:13:48]: entertain some of the questions. It just seems that there's just some things that need to be worked out. [2:13:49, 2:13:57]: If it's true that it's going to close anyway, then I would imagine that some things would just already be in progress. [2:13:58, 2:14:00]: But I would recommend that we do table [2:14:01, 2:14:02]: And that [2:14:02, 2:14:09]: S someone other than yourself come that who can answer some of the question. I know you said you cannot answer some of those. [2:14:10, 2:14:23]: But somebody needs to come to be able to speak to the concerns that we have here and maybe we can go forward. But today, I I don't think we can go forward. I well, I don't think I can go forward. [2:14:23, 2:14:31]: Sure. Thank you, Mayor. Out of curiosity, the the owner is it is lo someone local? How local? If l in a local Atlanta metro area or in the state of Georgia? [2:14:32, 2:14:46]: No, no. The owner's not in the Atlanta Metro area. But you have you have three different uh three different total three different uh facilities. So it's gotta be someone that's a s senior hierarchy that's in those w managing those three facilities. Who is that individual and where they look at it? [2:14:46, 2:14:55]: I can uh w there is a r uh regional operations person that is is here that could speak to how the transition works. [2:14:55, 2:14:59]: And that individual's gotta be in the nine metro area somewhere. Yes, they are. [2:14:59, 2:15:00]: Okay. [2:15:01, 2:15:06]: And I should have been here with you tonight. Mayor. That's really that's really what should have happened. Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [2:15:07, 2:15:10]: I I move that this item be tabled until [2:15:11, 2:15:11]: Yeah. [2:15:12, 2:15:32]: Okay, stand stand by. Mr. Thomas, stand by. I yield to uh Mr. Alexander. Go ahead, Mr. Alexander. Yes, sir. Uh certainly I appreciate all of the comments. You know, and um every and we certainly want to make sure that we've been uh extremely compassionate to uh what's going on in terms of the transition of the residents. I think we got stuck on [2:15:32, 2:15:52]: on the 30 days and I don't think nobody really believes that in that the residents are gonna be evicted in 30 days because that's not going to happen. So we understand that that is the legal language that is applied. And certainly we want to be uh sympathetic and make sure that there's a trans transition plan. Ms. Girvin will you come back up [2:15:52, 2:15:53]: Um [2:16:02, 2:16:05]: Obviously in terms of [2:16:05, 2:16:25]: what you've heard tonight, you understand that there is a desire to make sure that w this transition is done in a compassionate way. Oh absolutely. Obviously you you we all have um elderly parents or grandparents and we certainly would want to be sympathetic in this particular circumstance and situation. So [2:16:25, 2:16:45]: So in terms of this financially, in terms of you have a financial impact as to you as well. So the timing of this, certainly, you have a contract and on the property and what have you. So do you have some leeway with which, and I think your attorney did indicate that. [2:16:44, 2:16:50]: that you had some leeway uh in order to uh facilitate a transition. [2:16:51, 2:17:02]: Uh yes I do. I believe in this project and I'm willing to to wait. Okay. What what is what would be the uh if you just uh sir, I don't know maybe you want to speak on this what would be the timing that you would need [2:17:05, 2:17:22]: I think we can get who we need to get down here to answer those questions about a transition plan uh within uh thirty days. So the next one if we've if we table this, I guess I need a legal opinion on we table this, how soon can we bring it legally back, first of all. If we if it's tabled can we come back in thirty days, can we legally do that? [2:17:25, 2:17:27]: I'm sorry, in the September meeting? [2:17:28, 2:17:29]: All right. [2:17:29, 2:17:49]: So basically what is going to happen is we're building in thirty more days already in terms of what the notification would be. And you said the timing is that you have planned on sending out the notices this week. Is that what either the end of this week or next week, uh they'll they'll go out. So in essence, what has happened is that the time [2:17:49, 2:18:09]: Timetable is now slid in terms of you would be coming back before us 30 days, and then you would need 30 days from that basically to basically if you wanted to close down the operations, you would need so that would put us at about 60 days at that point, and then there would be an explanation. [2:18:09, 2:18:29]: of what their transition plan would be from the potential ex potential exit plan would be from the owner of the property. The the 30 day start or the or the or the executive of the property, John. The 30 day starts from the notice, but um the reason why I can't I can't give you more [2:18:29, 2:18:47]: uh information on uh is it gonna be sixty or ninety I don't I don't know the particular finances myself and it's more of a management I can't speak for them uh when they're not here. So um we can send the notices out uh as planned, uh that'll start thirty days, but I don't really see any um [2:18:49, 2:18:53]: I don't want to speak for management, but I don't see anybody moving that quickly. [2:18:54, 2:19:14]: Okay, it's what is what I'm s I wanna make sure is that we're balancing both sides in terms of making sure that the residents are have this thirty extra days that we're building into the calendar right now for the transition to be explained. So Ms. Gervin, uh should it the whatever decision be made, you're comfortable with basic [2:19:14, 2:19:34]: Basically, going out to that point would be sixty to ninety days at that point, you're comfortable with that. Okay, and giving the residents the chance t or or management the time to come up with a compassionate transition plan because as you have indicated, and I and I and I certainly have. [2:19:34, 2:19:54]: compassion for the residents, but we're up against a wall which says if you're gonna close down, you're gonna close down and or you're sending out you're sending out the notices this week or next week. And no matter what we do, that's kind of where we are right now. So what we got to do is we got to come up with whatever the plan is going [2:19:54, 2:20:14]: To be and then be able to uh compassionately transition, or and on a or conversely, if the plan is not satisfactory, extend the time or maybe not do it at all. So there's those options on the table, but you have indicated as the purchaser that you're willing to extend the time to maybe 60 to 90 days in [2:20:14, 2:20:34]: In order to work out the transition, we just basically you're stating that that a plan, someone that needs to come back with a plan before us at that point. So is the 30-days time frame going to give you enough time to have the this representative come to the council to present uh this presentation? [2:20:34, 2:20:35]: Plan. [2:20:35, 2:20:36]: I think so. [2:20:37, 2:20:42]: And certainly in the meantime, we certainly don't want to find ourselves in a position of [2:20:42, 2:21:02]: having someone communicate to the person who's doing the marketing that you should not be doing any further marketing at this point because it seems it just like you said, I think maybe there was some disconnect between what was going on and what the marketing team, maybe that was something uh that was they that they were doing routinely. [2:21:02, 2:21:14]: or or something that was being posted regularly, but certainly it was inappropriate if you're looking at closing the facility down. It's definitely inconsistent, definitely. [2:21:14, 2:21:34]: Okay, so uh I will make a motion to table this. Hold hold on one second before you go any further, one second. September ninth is our next council meeting. So today's the twelfth, so September ninth, so it's within a thirty-day period. That's our that's our next uh a council meeting, city council meeting. We have a work session of this at the end of this month, but that's that's too that's too soon. So September ninth is what we're shooting for. [2:21:34, 2:21:41]: And legally that we can we if it's a table uh then legally we can do that, put it on the next agenda to handle that. Right, Mr. Washington? [2:21:42, 2:21:52]: All right, thank you. All right. I okay you got it, sir? That's right. All right, I just I know okay, whatever the mo I mister uh Mr Thomas was gonna make a motion earlier. Yes, sir. [2:21:53, 2:22:13]: Councilman Alexander. Okay, go right ahead. Mr. Alexander. Thank you. As a district representative, I will make the motion to bring this back before the council uh on September the ninth, and that will be contingent upon the executive coming in, talking to the council, explaining uh what is a potential transition. [2:22:13, 2:22:33]: Plan and Ms. Gervin has indicated that she's acceptable to the 60 to 90 days, and that would be required in any plan that you would put forth. So don't have them come back and tell us that it's going to be 30 days because that's not going to be acceptable. You've already agreed and a contingent upon and [2:22:33, 2:22:53]: I'm putting that into motion that you can okay with 60 to 90 days, and that would be the plan anybody would bring to us. And the council will have a author the the ability to accept or reject that plan, but depending upon how compassionate it is, but that's what you are agreeable to tonight. Absolutely. [2:22:53, 2:22:58]: Uh that's the motion. Is there a second emotion? Second. Mr. Barrett second. All in favor, please indicate. [2:23:00, 2:23:06]: NAMS decision. Okay. NAMS decision. All right. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. We'll see you in within 30 days. Sounds great. [2:23:07, 2:23:27]: Alright, we'll move on to um new business. Council consideration to approve the stormwater division to use the five hundred seventy-three thousand six hundred and fifty-three dollars allocated in Splas 5 to perform stormwater repairs within the stormwater management system. Stormwater division proposes to utilize site engineering on the city's on-the-con- [2:23:27, 2:23:34]: On call water and sewer emergency and operational repair maintenance construction service vendor. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:23:34, 2:23:54]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. We're uh in Splas 5, there were some funds allocated for stormwater repairs. And over the last year, since 2023, we've been encountering a lot of stormwater issues, a lot of them in the recently annexed areas. And we just want to come before you so we don't have to keep bringing in [2:23:54, 2:24:05]: individual projects before council for approval if you'll allow us to go ahead and use the money that was allocated in SPLOS5 for stormwater projects. [2:24:05, 2:24:07]: All right, any questions, Council for Mr. Aaron? [2:24:10, 2:24:12]: Any questions? Ma'am. Yes, ma'am? [2:24:13, 2:24:30]: I move that we approve the stormwater division's use of the five hundred seventy six seventy-three thousand six hundred fifty-three dollars allocated to splash five to perform stormwater repairs as as stated. Sir second the motion. Mr. Barrett, second at all in favor, please indicate. [2:24:31, 2:24:35]: Unam's decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. No problem. [2:24:37, 2:24:45]: Number seven, Council consideration to fill vacancy of ethics committee for unexpired term, presented by Mr. Washington, please. [2:24:49, 2:25:09]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. We have two applications. One is Miss Mary Scott for the Board of Ethics, and that is enclosing your notebooks, as well as Miss Toseka Thomas. Those are the two that you all can choose from for the vacant slot on the Board of Ethics. It's only one slot vacant, is that correct? Correct. Okay. [2:25:09, 2:25:11]: One slide. [2:25:13, 2:25:13]: Okay. [2:25:15, 2:25:20]: And then the DDA is one slot, there's only one slot available in one applicant. [2:25:20, 2:25:29]: We'll get to that in a second, sir. Okay. Let's take one at a time. So on the ethics committee, anybody have any uh motion to either one of these individuals? [2:25:30, 2:25:33]: Well, I believe we discussed those in the executive session. [2:25:34, 2:25:36]: Well got two people and we got one [2:25:37, 2:25:39]: Yeah, somebody gotta choose. [2:25:40, 2:25:42]: Don't know we wanna debate that out here, do we? [2:25:46, 2:25:53]: Ca we can't do that. We have to we have to make a decision out here. This is not something that we can do in a Zeke session. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [2:25:54, 2:25:57]: I moved to appoint Mary Scott to the Antix Board. [2:25:58, 2:26:00]: All right. Is there a second motion? [2:26:03, 2:26:09]: Is there a second to that motion? I was second. Mr. Thomas seconds that all in favor please indicate. [2:26:12, 2:26:13]: Opposed. [2:26:14, 2:26:25]: Same. Say same Mr. Ellison. So I'm not sure who that is and how we came to the conclusion that that was the best applicant. The motion was made seconded. [2:26:26, 2:26:32]: Okay, so what's your vote, sir? Are you uh you you I'm abstaining because uh I w there was no discussion on the applicants? [2:26:33, 2:26:33]: Yeah. [2:26:33, 2:26:47]: Okay. In the in the past we've had discussions on Africa. We can't do that. We can't What well you can have discussion. You can have discussions. [2:26:49, 2:26:50]: We [2:26:50, 2:26:52]: Been doing that for years. [2:26:52, 2:26:54]: I understand it, but I've been informed we've been doing that not properly. [2:27:01, 2:27:05]: So right at this point the motion passed three what I'm sorry, Mayor, hold one moment. [2:27:09, 2:27:12]: I'm gonna go with the person who's been here the longest. [2:27:17, 2:27:19]: That looks like Mary Scott. [2:27:20, 2:27:23]: Okay. Motion passed three zero two. [2:27:23, 2:27:36]: What I less you're changing you unless you change your motion here. I mean you're voting. Well, I'm changing. I don't know who Mary Scott is. I don't e know either candidate, but she's been here the longest and they both are qualified so Mary Scott it is. [2:27:38, 2:27:46]: The motion was made, the second by uh second by you, Ms. I would just like to c ask a question. Does anybody up here know Mary Scott? [2:27:48, 2:27:52]: I would imagine You made the motion, Miss Barber. I imagine she does, I don't. [2:27:54, 2:27:55]: Mayor forward. [2:27:57, 2:28:04]: Um okay. Mr Thomas. I don't know. Uh I'm just reading the information that's provided. [2:28:05, 2:28:06]: I don't know. [2:28:07, 2:28:08]: Uh you're right. Uh [2:28:10, 2:28:18]: I'm I'm gonna have that stuff. I don't know any I don't know and we I didn't know we couldn't talk about it like that, but I I need to know. I don't know. [2:28:20, 2:28:36]: I don't have anything against Mary Scott. I just wanna make sure that uh we these positions are very important. These people are making important decisions and certainly we need to make sure that the person is qualified for it and that uh the qu uh you're stating that the qualif [2:28:38, 2:28:40]: So yes, but [2:28:42, 2:28:46]: to this process we will present these but these [2:28:48, 2:28:50]: Legal's not involved in the bedding of these candidates. [2:28:52, 2:29:06]: Ms. Holliday, are you you you you these candidates meet the criteria of as being required to uh fill submission for these particular uh board applications and all criteria? [2:29:06, 2:29:11]: Councilman Alexander, they are resident and they have been um [2:29:12, 2:29:18]: We submitted the background check to municipal port and they've come back clean on both of them. [2:29:21, 2:29:27]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. I'll move I pa I pass. Yes, sir. What what I like to recommend [2:29:28, 2:29:34]: Understanding that we have been um not [2:29:35, 2:29:37]: looking at these applications properly. [2:29:38, 2:29:44]: And if we have this kind of concern where we have applicants and we don't know them [2:29:45, 2:29:47]: I I think we have to [2:29:47, 2:29:49]: Take the time. [2:29:50, 2:30:10]: When we know that these positions are going to be filled ahead of time to be proactive, to ask the questions, to do the research before the actual council meeting. I think we sort of new that this was on the agenda. We had the uh information in the booklet about [2:30:10, 2:30:27]: about them. So I guess my point is if if we if we have those kind of concerns, we need to try to get all of that answered before we get to this point going toward the future. I know we're here today, but in the future, if we're gonna have this kind of concern, especially [2:30:28, 2:30:29]: If we have not been [2:30:30, 2:30:33]: doing this, I'm not gonna say incorrectly, but [2:30:33, 2:30:40]: We're just trying to do it a little bit more efficient now. I would suggest that when we have these kind of [2:30:40, 2:30:45]: uh agenda items coming that we do our due due diligence. [2:30:45, 2:30:46]: In [2:30:47, 2:30:56]: You know, so we can make the vote and that that's my point. Uh I think we had an opportunity to do just that, but we didn't do it, and now here we are. [2:30:56, 2:30:57]: Um [2:30:58, 2:31:18]: you know, sort of stumbling with it, but I think in the future, and I'm really speaking to the council now. So when we have these agenda items, let's just do what we need to do so when we do get here, we can make a uh an intelligent vote because we have research or ask some questions or [2:31:18, 2:31:25]: Whatever we need to do, but here today I I just think it's it it's a little late on this particular application. [2:31:25, 2:31:25]: Mm-hmm. [2:31:26, 2:31:46]: Yes, sir. What what I was honestly, Councilman Thomas, I agree with you, but certainly I I had anticipated a different process. So I was kind of reliant on that process of going into going into the discussion, not understanding that that's what I wasn't under understanding that we weren't gonna do that. [2:31:46, 2:32:06]: Or we were gonna be advised not to do that. So that's what I base my decision on is what we've done this in the past. But you know, if the clerk says the individual is qualified and meets all the qualifications, um, then uh there's certainly no reason to deny the person. But I just like I said, normally if we have one person [2:32:06, 2:32:26]: And it's easy. We don't even have to go. But I don't I I just like to be able to weigh the two people who are being suggested to understand more and it's good to have somebody, okay. Well, did you have some uh type of personal references or what have you to go with uh the applications? But with borrowing that not being the [2:32:25, 2:32:33]: the case then we gotta make a decision uh based on this or or table it for more time or in in uh in information. [2:32:34, 2:32:37]: Well motion's already made and passed, but go ahead, Miss Miss Gantt. [2:32:37, 2:32:48]: I'm I'm sorry, I would ask I would like to ask my colleagues to reconsider that. Um for now. We can always table I think the ethics board is a r you know, really important and it's important for us to know [2:32:49, 2:32:56]: who we are voting for. Not one member we it was asked do you know either one of the applicants and no one knows who [2:32:57, 2:33:01]: we are voting for. In addition to that, there's no resume attached. [2:33:02, 2:33:11]: there's w one with the lease and the other with just an address, there's nothing to go by. So I don't feel comfortable if no one on here knows [2:33:12, 2:33:13]: Who we're voting for? [2:33:14, 2:33:15]: Then [2:33:16, 2:33:16]: You know. [2:33:16, 2:33:27]: Or can vouch or say one way or another, then I'd I would ask that the people who voted for wait, did I I changed my vote? Motion the initial motion is made by Miss Barber. [2:33:27, 2:33:47]: Okay. Yeah, but we can do a motion for recon not reconsideration or judgment. No, you can't you can't do unless unless you're on this motion to people on the prevailing side can't. The prevailing side could make a motion to um rescind them rescind the vote or however we need to do it. [2:33:48, 2:34:04]: Um I've I've started speaking in legal. I done got it come jungled combobulated together. I just think that we should we don't have anything. Like we don't have a resume, we don't have anything. [2:34:04, 2:34:08]: So if we if no one knows the people who are applying [2:34:09, 2:34:12]: I think we should really take that into consideration and kind of [2:34:12, 2:34:13]: Maybe find out. [2:34:13, 2:34:17]: And and I'm sorry it's our fault. We didn't do our homework this time. [2:34:18, 2:34:19]: Ms. Barber, you were gonna say something? [2:34:21, 2:34:28]: We have one more board appointee to make. There's only one application that has been submitted. [2:34:30, 2:34:32]: Can we please move along? [2:34:33, 2:34:40]: Okay, so we can get through this agenda. Okay. I'm not going to rescind. Okay, she's not going to rescind. [2:34:41, 2:34:42]: Well I th I thought that [2:34:44, 2:34:49]: It normally would be on the prevailing side if one of the members on the prevailing side wants to reconsider their vote. [2:34:50, 2:34:52]: then they can make that motion to reconsider their vote. [2:34:53, 2:34:53]: Okay. [2:34:54, 2:34:59]: Well that that'd be left to she's not gonna she didn't want to change it unless one you two gentlemen wanna do that. [2:35:01, 2:35:03]: Okay, Mr. Thomas, you good? [2:35:04, 2:35:10]: All right, so it's it's great. It's three zero three zero two, motion pass. And Mary Scott is going to be on the ethics board. [2:35:10, 2:35:15]: Well I abstained. I just three zero two, two abstentions. Uh Mr. [2:35:16, 2:35:18]: Alexander abstained uh abstained as well. Okay correct? [2:35:20, 2:35:22]: Yes. Thank you. So three zero two, motion passed. [2:35:24, 2:35:34]: All right, so what we have next is council consideration to appoint a member of the downtown development authority to fill an unxpired term. There's only one individual for that, Mr. Jerry Mays. [2:35:35, 2:35:44]: Is um is the individual. Uh Mr Washington, anything sir? No, that's the the application is as it stands and you all bind. [2:35:44, 2:35:53]: Mayor. Yes, sir. I make a recommendation we accept the uh Mr. Mays and point to the downtown development authority. Okay, is there a second emotion? [2:35:54, 2:35:56]: Mr. Barrett second fair please indicate. [2:35:57, 2:35:59]: Oh I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir. [2:36:00, 2:36:01]: I just wanted to make a point. [2:36:03, 2:36:20]: And I guess the question, does anyone know this particular particular applicant? Well, the downtown development authority recommended the individual. So that's how we ended up with this. One of the board members did, so that's kinda where we are. There's there was some knowledge of the individual. But does anyone in on counsel know the person? [2:36:21, 2:36:23]: I d I don't I don't think I do. [2:36:24, 2:36:27]: So I'm just trying to make a point about principle. [2:36:28, 2:36:48]: Uh I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Well let me let me just say if if if there was a board, that's what we generally do. We look to the board to recommend or to make a statement or we've been soliciting members on the downtown development authority for the board. So that's kind of where we are. And normally [2:36:48, 2:37:01]: when the board makes a recommendation, we look at the board and say, if there was a situation where we had a board that had recommended the person for the previous committee, that would have affected my decision in the affirmative. [2:37:01, 2:37:20]: Mayor forward. Yes, sir. So i is this a board recommendation or is this an individual recommendation? This is an individual that is not that was there was an individual that was recommended from what I understand by one of the board members. Not a board decision, but it was someone familiar that recommended them. [2:37:21, 2:37:30]: To answer your question, Mr. Thomas, I all I know is what Mr Alexander just said. That's all I know. [2:37:31, 2:37:51]: And I just want clarification, was it the board or was it an individual? But I I'm okay with whatever we do tonight, but I'm just trying to speak to a principle and a process. But I'm okay, ma'am. You can move forward. I'm okay, you can move forward. Okay, well, okay. Mr. Alexander, you made a motion. I believe Member Pro Tem, you you second that. Okay, so all favor, Terry Mays, please. [2:37:51, 2:38:11]: Okay, anamus decision. Okay, thank you. So Mr. Mays will join the DDA. All right. And what we have now announcements of upcoming meetings and events. And council meetings will be held in the city council chamber. Meeting dates, location, and times are subject to change, or to contact the city hall offices at 770-389-7900, or visit the website. [2:38:11, 2:38:31]: Website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. The Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, August 13th. Planning Commission meeting third Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, August 15th. Downtown Development Authority meeting 3rd [2:38:31, 2:38:47]: Tuesday of each month. Stockbridge Downtown Center 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail August 20th. New Council Advisory Committee meeting 630, third Tuesday of each month, the Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, August 20th. [2:38:48, 2:39:08]: City Council Work Session meeting the last Tuesday of each month, Tuesday, July 30th, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, August 27th. The community zoning and informational meeting, Thursday, August, that's already occurred, August 7th, 6 to 7, and City Hall Council Chambers. Stockbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting, first Thursday of each month. [2:39:08, 2:39:28]: 6 p.m. at Stockbridge Police Community Room 4545 North Henry Boulevard September 5th. City Council meeting, second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chamber, September 9th. Uh Council meeting, second Monday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, September 9th as well. [2:39:28, 2:39:39]: The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is the second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. location in Downtown Connection Center, 1.30 M. L. King Senior Heritage Trail. [2:39:39, 2:39:59]: Upcoming city events and initiatives. Join Councilman Afonso Thomas for the monthly senior bingo bash on Wednesday, August 14th from ten AM to twelve noon at Murray Manos Conference Center, one one one Davis Row for Raffles Prizes, Games, Snacks, and Fun. Join Councilwoman Lakeia Gantt for a partnership with Atlanta Food Truck Park for night [2:39:59, 2:40:17]: Market at the Starburst Amphitheater parking lot from 6 p.m. to 9 30 p.m. August 15th. There will be vendors, food trucks, activities, games, music, vibes. Contact Tan Bowers at tan at Atlanta Foodtruck Park dot com for registration and additional information. [2:40:19, 2:40:39]: Join Councilman Thomas for the 2nd District Curb Gutter and Sidewalks Town Hall on Thursday, August 15th from 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. at Floyd Chapel Baptist Church Family Life Center, located at 104 First Street, right in Stobbridge. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, August 26th from 10 a.m. to noon. [2:40:39, 2:40:59]: Stockbridge City Hall. Join Councilman Thomas with Don't Trash Stockbridge initiative centered around education, highlighting the causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. And more information to follow on that. [2:40:59, 2:41:19]: Please contact Rosland Rawls to schedule appointment with meet the mayor. For more information on council initiatives and events, you can call her at 678-833-3348 or send an email ralls at stopbridgega.org. Save the date for Bridge Fest 2024. It is coming. Are you ready? [2:41:19, 2:41:39]: City of Stockbridge government is hosting this annual event for the community on Saturday, September 28th, 2024. We'll have live concert food trucks, vendors, and more, of course. Get ready for the fun of Stockbridge Amphitheater. If you have any questions, please email B Bradley, B-B-R-A-D-L-E-Y at Stockbridge G-A.org. [2:41:39, 2:41:49]: ORG as soon as possible for vendor opportunities. And for the 2024 Stockbridge uh Amphitheater Concert Series, August Saturday, August 17th, coming up this week. [2:41:50, 2:42:10]: Mon uh Monica featuring Tamar Seven uh Streeter and Pretty Tammy, which is a DJ, and obviously this is going to be honoring the Divine Nine, the four SWARTEs of the Divine Nine primarily. So yeah, so ladies, if have you in the sword and have it cut where your colors Saturday evening. All right, and I know that Miss Ganobee then wearing her colors of pink and [2:42:10, 2:42:30]: Green and everything. So Sunday, August 20th, 2024, which is a rescheduled show for Charlie Wilson and special guest will be El DeBarge. If you were have a ticket for the original uh Charlie Wilson uh concert that was uh rough roughly over a month ago and we had it rained out through those storms and thunder and lightning, you can use your [2:42:30, 2:42:50]: Same ticket and same seat and it'd be honored. And this time you'll get a chance to see Elder Barge. So it's no change in all that. Bring your ticket back and you'll be able to sit in your same seat. October 26, 2024, it's our last concert of the year. Bony James, slow burn, torn uh torn, I guess it's torn, with special guest uh [2:42:50, 2:43:09]: Damien Escobar. And um let's see here. I got a couple of things here. And yes, the um Police Department, so excuse me, Police Department Citizens Police Council Town Hall. And they have a date on August 19th, 2024, right? Stockbridge First United Methodist Church. So [2:43:10, 2:43:12]: Yeah, for town hall, police council town hall. [2:43:12, 2:43:32]: August nineteenth. Um it doesn't give a time on this. The time would be on the police uh uh Starbury's Police Department's website. The three-year anniversary celebration of Starbury's Amphitheater was a Saturday, September 14th, featuring Coolden the gang and a special guest, of course. [2:43:32, 2:43:52]: Morris Day in the Time will be present for that. And uh and once again, of course, uh save the date uh for the 9-11 remembrance uh ceremony, which is Wednesday, September 11th, beginning at 8 a.m. right on City Hall steps, and we will never forget. And uh just a special note here in reference to [2:43:52, 2:44:12]: To uh the Olympics that have ended. Had a lot of different uh obviously, I believe the U.S. ended with the most medals and the most gold. But something special here, Miss Holliday has a first cousin, a cousin named Grant Holloway, that took gold in 110 uh hurdles. All right. [2:44:12, 2:44:16]: So congratulate to him, congratulate to uh Vanessa Holden or [2:44:17, 2:44:18]: And a relative there? [2:44:19, 2:44:31]: And uh also on that same race, Daniel Roberts, uh which is uh got silver, which is second place, and uh understanding he went to Eagle Atlanta High School right here in Hemley County, so congratulations to him as well. Okay. [2:44:33, 2:44:34]: Um [2:44:35, 2:44:48]: There's a lot of good things with that Olympics. And of course the next Olympics is gonna be in LA. So we'll see how many of us gets the LA get the LA to see the Olympics, right? On that note, we don't have uh ladies and gentlemen, we do not have a uh uh let's see here. [2:44:50, 2:44:54]: We do not one second, I'm not done. Excuse me. [2:44:54, 2:45:12]: How do I forget this? Chris Tucker and Friends. The comedian actor Chris Tucker has a concert. It's going to be for a benefit for his Chris Tucker Foundation, Saturday, August twenty fourth. Um and right here at Amphitheater, Chris Tucker and Friends by Live Music and Comedy. And so uh come on by and check that out. [2:45:12, 2:45:32]: And see what's happening with that concert and that activity. And then of course the Starbase Main Street Tiny Tent Concert Series. It's Fridays, weather permitting. The show will start at 6 p.m. and end at 8 p.m. The show will take place at 1 30 ML King Senior Heritage Trail and right in the downtown area. So you come by and enjoy good music. [2:45:32, 2:45:52]: local restaurants, our community. It's a gorgeous location. Bring your family, make a make it a date night, and uh come with your lawn chair. And on that note, uh yes, I have nothing else. No executive session. So council, I need a oh I'm sorry, there's one other thing. How can I forget this? Mr. Alexander, you did not remind me about this. I just happened to think about this, right? You and I [2:45:52, 2:46:12]: Sir yesterday with Eagles Hunting Country Club for the World Long Distance Drive Contest. And we have women, uh women, I think the winner of the women's uh contest uh level hit her hit their drive over, I think over three hundred yards, definitely three hundred yards, and the men were all over four hundred yards. Right. And so this is [2:46:12, 2:46:25]: is uh this and and Mr. Alexander and I were present to issue a a city proclamation to them. As well as two weeks ago at Eagles Land Country Club there was the actual legends of the LPGA [2:46:25, 2:46:45]: So these are female golfers, professional golfers that are retired that came back and for a benefit there as well. And we're also able to issue out a city proclamation to them. And this is something that we would like to continue doing a basis, uh yearly basis, provided that both these activities get back to the city of Stoppers, back to Eagles Landing Country Club in out years. So we look forward to that. [2:46:45, 2:46:56]: note I need a motion to end the second and excuse me end our meeting this evening. So move. Is there a second? Ms. Ms. again second that from Alzheimer's Ms. Gan Onfair please indicate. [2:46:56, 2:47:00]: So you now say goodnight, ladies and gentlemen. We're done. God bless you all.
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    --- title: Community Zoning Information Meeting date: 2024-08-07 source: 2024-08-07_Community_Zoning_Information_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:29, 0:01:36]: Good evening everyone. Welcome to the second meeting of the City of Stockbridge. [0:01:36, 0:01:39]: Community zoning and information meeting. [0:01:40, 0:01:51]: What is a CZIM, you may ask? A CZIM is an informal meeting that allows applicants who are requesting a rezoning [0:01:51, 0:02:11]: A modification, a comprehensive land use change, or a special use permit to present their petition to all citizens who may have interest in their developments. It allowed the applicants an opportunity to present their applications to you and explain to you what the details of their project will consider. [0:02:11, 0:02:16]: It will also allow the residents and citizens to [0:02:16, 0:02:23]: of the city of Stockbridge to ask or review any documents that the applicant may have in possession. [0:02:23, 0:02:30]: And also it provides details on upcoming meetings, hearings, location dates, and time. [0:02:30, 0:02:34]: Allow me to go over the rules and regulations of the meeting. [0:02:39, 0:02:50]: So first we ask that you keep your comments and presentations on a professional level. Any subsequent redirection of behavior, you will be asked to leave the meeting. [0:02:50, 0:03:10]: Uh we ask that you refrain from applause or comments from the audience that are not recognized by staff. And we ask that you please defer all questions pertaining to the presentation that is uh before us at that time. And before we get started, a [0:03:10, 0:03:13]: Allow me to introduce staff to you. [0:03:14, 0:03:25]: Before you are the dates for the community zoning and information meetings that are come upcoming. The next CZIM meeting will be September 4th. [0:03:26, 0:03:32]: October second, November sixth, December fourth, and January second of twenty twenty five. [0:03:33, 0:03:53]: Before you is the zoning process that uh application goes through. In the beginning, the applicant reached out to staff or pre-application meeting and they present their project to us. We provide comments on their project or site plan that is before us. After that meeting, [0:03:53, 0:04:13]: An application is submitted to staff, and upon review, we provide comments to the applicants and just uh verifying that the application is completed. Once it's completed, it then goes through processes of legal advertisement, property [0:04:13, 0:04:17]: signs placed on the um a zoning signs placed on the property. [0:04:18, 0:04:18]: Um [0:04:18, 0:04:22]: notifications are sent within five hundred feet of the subject property. [0:04:23, 0:04:23]: And then [0:04:24, 0:04:27]: Where we are tonight is the community zoning information meeting. [0:04:28, 0:04:39]: Um there are other processes that will happen after this meeting, such as planning commission, and then city council, and then after that, the applicant may move forward to um [0:04:42, 0:04:46]: they may submit for their permits, such as land disturbance or a building permit. [0:04:48, 0:04:55]: These are the cases that are before us tonight. We have the adoption of a new land use and zoning map for the city of Stockbridge. [0:04:56, 0:05:04]: Um then we will have the CP dash twenty twenty-four-zero one comprehensive plan amendment. [0:05:04, 0:05:24]: On the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive, and that will also include a rezoning and a variance, two variances. Then the next case will be CP-2024-06, which is also a comprehensive plan amendment for two parcels on the east side of [0:05:24, 0:05:34]: of Highway 42 north, south of Eagles Landing, and that will also consist of a rezoning in two variances. [0:05:36, 0:05:44]: After tonight, I mentioned earlier that this these cases that you will hear tonight will go to Planning Commission and that date will be [0:05:46, 0:06:01]: That date is incorrect. So August fifteenth. August fifteenth, correct. So August fifteenth will be the planning commission date and then subsequently we'll be mayor and city council September ninth. [0:06:02, 0:06:09]: So again, planning commission after this date will be August fifteenth for those that are listening to the meeting tonight. [0:06:09, 0:06:14]: And from here we'll go ahead and get started with presentations and the first [0:06:14, 0:06:16]: Presentation will be [0:06:16, 0:06:18]: From Mr. George Harper. [0:06:19, 0:06:21]: I'm sorry, Josh Mahoney. [0:06:21, 0:06:23]: Um, considering the [0:06:23, 0:06:29]: comprehensive land use change, rezoning and variants on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive. [0:09:09, 0:09:10]: Your land use. Thank you. [0:09:14, 0:09:34]: This is the site plan that we're proposing at this time. Just to orient everybody, north is towards the top of the screen. Hudson Bridge Road would be off to the right side of your screen. The Taco Bell QT would be down here in the corner of the property. [0:09:34, 0:09:54]: We're proposing access off of what's called Hudson Bridge Drive, which is right behind the Taco Bell. We would have the pool and clubhouse right near the entrance of the development, and then we would have the road network kind of stretch back into the property as you see it here. We are proposing to sell these types of [0:09:54, 0:10:01]: Town homes for the price range between uh$330,000,$360,000 based on today's forecast. [0:10:03, 0:10:23]: And then I'd like to take a moment just to talk a little bit about the variances that we're requesting. As you can see, the property is kind of an odd shape with a stream that traverses the north end of the property and the accompanying stream buffer that encumbers the property that makes all of the northern part of. [0:10:23, 0:10:43]: of the of the property unusable and undevelopable. And so we have to squeeze in what we can here on the southern side of the property. Additionally, several variances have been granted in the city, especially for this front yard setback when it comes to town homes. So we're requesting what [0:10:43, 0:10:46]: What we've seen around in other applications. [0:10:47, 0:10:57]: And then lastly you can see an example of the product that we're proposing, which includes a mixture of high quality materials, including brick, uh on the on the it on the units you see on the bottom here. [0:11:00, 0:11:08]: And with that, that's all I have. If anyone has any questions, I'm happy to help. Uh and I have my contact information that I could share as well if anyone's interested in getting any more information. [0:11:31, 0:11:35]: Thank you, Mr. Mahoney. The next presentation that will be before you [0:11:35, 0:11:43]: Is the rezoning comprehensive land use change and variance on Highway 42? [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: And this will be presented by Mr. George Harper. [0:12:00, 0:12:20]: Uh good evening. George Harper, Paramount Engineering, 11 East Broad Street, Noonan, Georgia. Here tonight, as Ms. Kiedra said, to uh explain to you our uh proposal for a comp plan amendment um and a rezoning and two variances on this project. Uh [0:12:20, 0:12:40]: Um similar to the first project you heard, we're uh proposing a comp plan amendment from low density mixed use to a medium density residential. Uh we are proposing a rezoning from C2 to MFR. Uh the property is currently [0:12:40, 0:13:00]: Vacant. It's owned by the fence company, which is located just to the north of the property. They had proposed a few years back, I believe, to try to expand their facility onto this property. I think it had to be rezoned. Maybe it's a more of a an industrial type zoning, and that was denied. So they've owned this property for quite a few. [0:13:00, 0:13:20]: years and uh at this time with all the the um development around it and the need for housing uh they thought that this uh this townhome uh development was probably the highest and best use and we agreed so uh we are proposing a hundred units uh fee simple town [0:13:20, 0:13:25]: homes. Um they will have two car garages. [0:13:27, 0:13:47]: We were uh proposing an amenities area with a pool and a cabana. Um also has uh the the parking for uh some additional parking for guests as well as the uh the amenities user also proposing a playground on this project, uh the main access. [0:13:47, 0:14:07]: There's actually an existing curb cut uh that lines up directly uh with Parkview Place on Highway 42 at this time. So we're gonna be accessing and using that uh existing driveway and curb cut. We'll also have a secondary emergency access that's also existing as well. [0:14:07, 0:14:27]: To allow for just emergency trucks, fire trucks in case that was ever needed. The community will be gated. We kind of did this the old school way. I have the boards with the plans on it. I know staff has the everything that we submitted with our [0:14:27, 0:14:37]: our application, but uh we have the boards with the obviously the plan, the colored rendering of the subdivision as well as the renderings of the uh proposed units as well. [0:14:38, 0:14:58]: Uh let's see. Again, we're proposing a hundred units. Uh we're surrounded by um some residential property to the uh east and the south, um, single-family uh residential, um, and a little bit of O and I as well for a church, St. Luke, Lutheran. [0:14:58, 0:15:18]: Church is adjacent to us to the south on Highway 42. To the north is the existing fence company who currently owns the property and they are zoned LI. We're proposing a 25-foot buffer along the east property line that backs up to Lakeside. [0:15:18, 0:15:25]: At Eagles Landing Subdivision because that property is zoned SR. [0:15:25, 0:15:42]: And we're obviously going to pro uh be proposed MFR. The property to the south of us, uh Brandon's Walk subdivision is currently zoned MFR as well. So we will we do have a contiguous uh MFR zoning that uh that we're wanting to expand. [0:15:43, 0:15:45]: Um [0:15:45, 0:16:05]: As far as the variances that we're proposing, uh we're uh asking for two variances. Uh one will be to reduce the required front setback from 50 feet to 30 feet. Excuse me. Yeah, excuse me, 30 five, 30 feet. That's correct. Um typically in a uh uh town home development, 50 feet is is quite [0:16:05, 0:16:25]: Excessive for a front setback variance just based on similar ordinances in surrounding municipalities. If you think about a town home development, typically you like to have smaller front yards, less maintenance, but we also want to have enough room for to be able to park cars that doesn't block. [0:16:25, 0:16:45]: The road, the street, or the sidewalks. And so 30 feet is plenty of room. And again, remember that 30 feet is based off of the right-of-way. So from the actual edge of the pavement or a back of curb, you know, it's probably another 11 feet or so. So you've got almost 40 feet from the back of curb to the to the front of the house. [0:16:45, 0:17:05]: Which is plenty of room, plenty enough room for um to uh to park several vehicles. Again, we have two car garages on these as well. Um and then the second variance we're asking for is to reduce the side setbacks from 20 feet to 10 feet. So in the MFR ordinance, uh it says that the [0:17:05, 0:17:25]: The minimum side setback is 20 feet, but then it goes on to say that the minimum distance between buildings is uh is 20 feet. So we're trying to reduce the side setback to where it meets the the uh minimum uh distance between buildings, which would be uh 20 feet, so 10 feet. [0:17:25, 0:17:30]: on each side of the property line. So that is the uh that's the the basis for that request. [0:17:31, 0:17:51]: Um other than that it's a it'll be a nice subdivision. Uh majority of these uh townhomes will have brick, uh stone stucco uh facades. Um again, you know, with our amenities that we're asking for. Um well only a hundred units. Um I think it'll really fit in with the uh the neighboring properties. [0:17:51, 0:18:00]: and be a good transition between the single family to the south and the uh industrial property to the north. So be glad to answer any questions that [0:18:02, 0:18:03]: No one here has. [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: All right. Thank you. [0:18:32, 0:18:52]: So I thank you, Mr. Hopper, for your presentation um regarding your development at highway on Highway 42. Um so those that are watching tonight, um the plans that you saw before you are cons conceptual plans, um meaning that it could change once [0:18:52, 0:19:12]: They um begin their building process. So um before the building process, they will meet with staff again. And you know, we will ensure that they are following the the regulations of the UDC code of the city of Stockbridge. And um this information that was presented. [0:19:12, 0:19:32]: presented to you tonight is public information. So if you would like to see the plans of the applicants that presented tonight, you may contact staff and request those documents. So at this point, at this time, um do we have any comments from staff? [0:19:35, 0:19:35]: Okay. [0:19:39, 0:19:58]: There are no further comments and if again, if there are any questions, please reach out to staff and we'll be more than happy to assist you with any inquiries. So we thank you for visiting with the City of Stockbridge planning and zoning staff and good night.
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All right, Council. Uh we motion to end the second position, please. [0:37:47, 0:37:49]: Mm. [0:37:49, 0:37:52]: From second session we have an issue we want to bring forward this time this game is. [0:37:53, 0:37:56]: Um yes, I don't I took a motion that we translate. I'm sorry, what's what's wrong? [0:37:57, 0:37:59]: Well, I think it's a good thing [0:37:59, 0:38:14]: Go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead. Ms. Gan, Ms. Gan, go ahead, please. I would I would like to make a motion to approve one seventy five and one eighty five North Trail be transferred over to the development authority with the same sti stipulations of sale that we made to parcel zero three two. [0:38:15, 0:38:21]: Zero zero three zero zero one okay made made motion made from second mister has that on favour please okay [0:38:22, 0:38:30]: I'll post Mayor Ford and I can add a comment. Um this ain't better and I don't believe it's property has been um [0:38:31, 0:38:51]: Advertised publicly. I opposed. Thank you for four. One motion passed. And now ladies and gentlemen, uh council, motion to uh Tar Gym C please. Mayor, before we do that, I just want to make a comment that by law and because we staff at tea that we uh what we did and mayor we didn't was legal and proper. Thank you. I need a motion to our gym for the seat in place. [0:38:51, 0:39:06]: Is there a second? A second. If you uh if you had a change, uh please uh get that to the clerk. So good uh approval or all that agreed. Uh Mr. Clerk, is there any public comments at all? [0:39:07, 0:39:27]: Okay, and we'll move on to new business. The new business item of two process to determine awarding of two additional alcoholic license and possibly two addition license to cert other types of businesses in the city of Stockbridge. Currently application which the city has to be reviewed during the forty five day public notice period, which ended on seventh twenty twenty four. For a purpose of awarding business license to two additional alcoholic businesses, possibly awarding licenses to additional businesses certain [0:39:27, 0:39:39]: Mr. Ryan Ans, please. Good evening. I would like to announce the work of the two available lick licenses to the two qualified applicants. Applicant number one, Baris Kumakotel, and applicant number five, Narea Patel. [0:39:40, 0:39:58]: Thank you sir. Uh no. Mr. Berry here, please. Yes, uh, I'd like to move the potential liquor lists to applicant five, direct, as well as applicant one or school, subject to meet the criteria outlined by the director of the building and the ordinance are reproving set with no specific locations approved this time. Mr. Second, I'll pray please indicate. [0:39:59, 0:40:19]: Sam, you never seen on that note, everybody. Um appreciate that now we have council consideration of a resolution accept the track to uh for the property at uh thirty ninety six Jodico Road near Kenler Road, we have the C Stockbridge best owner, Kenler, who started pro pro I guess as a follow-up to uh executed delegation uh agreement between [0:40:19, 0:40:39]: parties. Uh dated thirteen December 2023 for the use of six hours park and for other purposes and the part to be constructed by the property owner and according to the mutual agreement plan. And the property comprises the parcel number 071 D0B46000, which is three districts with Henry County. Tract two contains zero point four eight nine acres. [0:40:39, 0:40:59]: depicted as by me. Track one and track three on the property were pre-proof dedication to the city started by the same property owner at the February 12th 2024 council meeting. Ryan, please. Yes on February 12th uh this year um cities did um track um one and three uh from the 175 Canton industrial park over there um associated [0:40:59, 0:41:04]: with the city's all park and um let me try to pull this up so you can see um [0:41:10, 0:41:21]: If you can see the screen, it it will be the C owns track one and track two, which previous previously dedicated in uh February of sure. And so uh if we accept the dedication, we will own track three. So we'll just own that whole script. [0:41:23, 0:41:43]: So this is of this uh item. Okay, thank you. Mr. Anderson. Yes. Certainly the city has been maintaining this area. We basically go back to clean stuff, which is to make sure it's done appropriate, uh correct. I think they already installed the part uh on the right side there, and they installed the new equipment and trails and all that already. Uh on this uh left and parts left hand [0:41:43, 0:42:03]: Side over here. This side was not improved. I think to see or we would have go back and add some parking spaces and additional uh outlays there because with additional land being now in the city, we actually could add some additional amenities uh to the park on this new area that uh if we did not realize that we can attain. I would like to at the [0:42:03, 0:42:23]: this point already dedicated to us. I wouldn't circle back to them because they did put 10 footpath across the initial side on the right hand side by the uh dog park, but we did not really realize that we were gonna get rest of the link on the other side. So I watched circle back and see if they would uh add a 10 foot path on the front of course it would be a request at this point. Yes sir to Wes and ask him what they would [0:42:23, 0:42:23]: [2543.9, 2548.0]: Okay. Well uh that would be in the in that instantly I would make a motion approved. [0:42:28, 0:42:29]: Okay. [0:42:30, 0:42:31]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:42:31, 0:42:33]: Second I'm the second. All favor, please gay. [0:42:33, 0:42:38]: Okay, uh four vote yes, and I'm assuming you uh put in no. [0:42:39, 0:42:41]: So I wanted to be able to make a comment before we voted. [0:42:42, 0:42:54]: Code. Go ahead. Make a comment. Question. Which one? My question is, is it ontage to accept this property? Consider considering that they're responsible for maintaining it. [0:42:54, 0:43:01]: Um being yeah, because we already have been three oh the track in the middle it would be it would seem more logical for us to have that. So we'd put one people strip. [0:43:02, 0:43:06]: Already ta maintained anyway. So I don't think that was too much of an introvert on the city. [0:43:07, 0:43:15]: Well uh you know we had the discussion regarding the idea of the aim passive um last year. Um [0:43:15, 0:43:20]: And I know at that time it was for the owners of the warehouse. [0:43:20, 0:43:25]: Uh hoping that they would build a park to kind of commend with human community and provide [0:43:25, 0:43:33]: park for recreation relaxing. But I heard announcement Alexander mentioned about added to digital features. That's a cost to the city. So [0:43:35, 0:43:39]: I was asking a question. That's all. Oh thank you, sir. You're welcome. [0:43:39, 0:43:59]: Motion is made second, please indicate in the case. Thank you very much, Mr. Anderson uh what is necessary deannexation case number DSU zero two four-02 per mainly subject in phase two. And also here, this is a presentation, not a voting item. Uh so what we have is consideration of an ordinance to de-annex from equipment to the city of Stockworth's within the man. [0:43:59, 0:44:01]: [2641.8, 2661.8]: The request was by the owners of nine parcels which are located land lots eight and nine of district twelve. The parcel become part of the unincorporated Henry King. The city council previously approved on April 30, 2024, deannexation of case number DXS two zero two four-zero one Matter Subdivision A, which concerns ten nearby parcels. So these nine parcels as are at one C [0:44:21, 0:44:39]: Asper road parcel 1A01023000. 165 ASPR Drive Parcel 0013A01024000. Also 195 Dasper Drive parcel number 013A0105000. [0:44:39, 0:44:59]: Uh then the three ten Corrith Drive, Par013A 01039000. 320 Corrith Drive, uh parcel number 013A 0103800. And uh 325 uh Corrid Drive, parcel number 013A02500. 510 uh Porthole uh Court parcel number zero three. [0:44:59, 0:45:08]: [2709.0, 2709.8]: So screaming. [0:45:10, 0:45:30]: Zero parser on age of window four seven zero zero zero. That's right. Okay. And uh five twenty four load drivers number zero three uh one excuse me one D A zero one zero four zero zero zero. We'll just number them together. Okay. So on that note, Mr. Hansen please. Okay. Uh this this D annexation is uh phase two of uh manual based subdivision. Um D annexation. [0:45:30, 0:45:50]: Uh back in April of this year, the Z Council approved for 10 properties to be DNA. And um on the screen up the nine properties to the previous team that are applying for dense line. June 11th County Board of Commissioner agreed to accept these properties. And according to legal review, there's nothing uh far as legal issues uh to prevent the city from uh approving this DNA. [0:45:49, 0:46:03]: Okay, Mr. Ronson, I may I misquoted here. This difficult uh action, yes, we have to vote on this and my full comment is voted on pre presentation. Counsel, any questions we have for Mr. Anst. Yes, ma'am. Did you recent new discoveries and not really [0:46:04, 0:46:04]: Done. [0:46:05, 0:46:10]: I would like an option now to speak with these landowners prior to voting on this. [0:46:11, 0:46:11]: Yeah, she did. [0:46:12, 0:46:14]: They're in my district and um [0:46:14, 0:46:21]: One of their there are several reasons there were there's particularly why they meant to de annex and they stated specifically. [0:46:22, 0:46:37]: And now those that has changed. And so because of that, I want an opportunity. I've asked that we table this until the next council meeting and that I receive an opportunity to contact each one of these particular properties. And I'm I think I'm gonna go ahead and tell my [0:46:37, 0:46:43]: Still that go ahead and proceed with me to the down hall, reach out to the one in the community for the mentally and the um [0:46:44, 0:46:46]: Well, just my district in general. I I'll do it. [0:46:46, 0:46:50]: But I'm definitely gonna speak to these individuals on this property one through number list. [0:46:51, 0:46:53]: If you don't mind, if there's no liner time frame. [0:46:54, 0:46:57]: I need permission. I'm asking for permission to table that due to the new animation. [0:46:57, 0:47:17]: Make that a motion, I'm assuming. Yes. Is there a second? Uh all favor please indicate. Okay. Now we have to take that. Okay. Okay. All right. Phone number nine now. Text case uh T X uh three four zero five or multi FR. Multifamily residences only doing this only, not for voting item. [0:47:17, 0:47:30]: All right. FR zoning district. Require front and door setbacks will be reduced fifty to thirty and a new site for architectural design presented to Ryan. Please. [0:47:31, 0:47:38]: Yes, this is an effort by us to approve um gat guidelines for impartial because currently there are um some loads where um [0:47:38, 0:47:40]: An applicant can develop um [0:47:41, 0:47:50]: Uh project not have direct look that the city council prefers. So we're trying to tighten up those um booboats and make it mandatory to have certain uh elements contained within return and for development. [0:47:52, 0:47:54]: Question for Mr. Anderson, Council. [0:47:54, 0:48:00]: Um so Mr. Boba. Mr. Anderson, I know that with recent uh proposals at Com Council [0:48:00, 0:48:04]: There have been variance requests um to reduce prior sex. [0:48:05, 0:48:07]: Ask us to amend a comprehensive plan. [0:48:08, 0:48:20]: This is gonna eliminate and to submit speech questions. Yes, and uh and some couple other things. Um we looked around and uh reviewed several other manipulations and uh most of them have a twenty five foot frame yard back for the embark and m and uh now city council has has usually been proven thirty feet. [0:48:21, 0:48:26]: So in and we decided to um recommend a thirty foot front yard spot for MR instead of the fifty. [0:48:27, 0:48:36]: But most jurisdictions have have a twenty five feet. And that's why we get so many variances pertaining to this because fifty feet is kinda um it's kinda large for um front yard set back town home development. [0:48:36, 0:48:39]: And that's that's um [0:48:39, 0:48:41]: But now we need reviewing. [0:48:42, 0:48:45]: Mul family development. [0:48:45, 0:48:56]: developments that were hopeful come to council as well. But I don't do it I don't approve this. And we have some single family homes um where they're dealed. Their homes [0:48:56, 0:49:16]: Three feet from the sidewalks. I don't I don't want to see our homes. Uh yes, that's in uh the SR and our districts. So they would still have to afford cancer apply for parents if they had any any DH in their requirements. So what's drawing this particular request from you? Mm we just trying to a better product in this overall product. Uh brick fronts and uh side elevations. Right now there's they're able to have a combination where they could just put up [0:49:16, 0:49:32]: most of the cement is fiber, just the little stone and brick. We want require a greater percentage of brick and stone and on the side elevations as well. Cause right now in the code, they just put a minimum a minimum of brick on the domes and steel code requirements. So you just want to up our design requirements to to give a better overall product for the city. [0:49:32, 0:49:52]: Okay, so I know the comprehensive plan, the council we spent, I don't know, a hundred or over a hundred thousand dollars to reloc all of the things weren't in that. Yes, yes ma'am. You're referring to the UDC? Yes, the UDC. Well the zoning ordinance usually they are uh what we call live. So that means from time to time amend them. So look that and we we um we adopted that back in twenty twenty two. [0:49:52, 0:49:53]: Now we're seeing that [0:49:54, 0:49:56]: [2996.7, 2998.2]: That the product is not satisfactory. [0:49:59, 0:50:04]: Based on the current standards in the current UDC. So basically what we're trying to do is improve what's currently in UDC to overall product. [0:50:04, 0:50:07]: Thank you, sir. All right. Go ahead, please. [0:50:07, 0:50:27]: Okay, thank you, sir. Let me say this. My house is thirty feet from the sea. And I think many of the houses in the subdivisions were built in our area or about thirty feet from the street. And that is has been customary for where we were in terms of the homes that we're dealing with. Personally we don't want [0:50:27, 0:50:47]: cut a whole lot of grass in the right. We just want to have baby to maintain it at the level need it is. But in terms of us um doing things, it's our adjustment to the multifamily ordinance here. The one thing we've been talking about is requirements. The metal three we came here to do a presentation against whatever you think missing fact when we take the notes or add it to it. Right. I think we should require the [0:50:47, 0:51:07]: So don't have to pay for the free lights going for it so much light should be included. Okay. Uh Miss Gangs talk the flight camera should be in here. That's it. Okay. Um and one thing that I always see that you see in very nice balance the main roof is the the pitch, the pitch the materials on the main roof is the general shield, right? But anything lower than [0:51:07, 0:51:27]: Main roof and build ice documents normally have the metal or tin below the main would be the shingles. But anything lower than that, let's say they did a port or get another like uh covering for uh another area that would then then be metal or some type of decorative material instead having cheap vinyls uh of cheap shingles on top of a [0:51:27, 0:51:46]: It would have a very nice covering. Okay, got that. Okay, for something. We already have D charging in there, right? That's what um it's not for development. So maybe if you have a a development number of homes, we want you to have a E V charge station that develops. But I'm saying for this is multifamily development, right? Yes. This not um it's not necessarily right now. We just [0:51:46, 0:51:47]: Uh [0:51:48, 0:51:49]: Use more and more units. [0:51:49, 0:52:09]: Okay, so basically isn't there if it's a whole more you negotiate. That's what you do, but okay, so need negotiate with the Okay, well it needs to be in there. It needs to be required going forward. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, man. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. All right. Uh I'm here in the conversation and I'm hearing you talk about [0:52:09, 0:52:10]: Yeah. [0:52:11, 0:52:14]: Construction of the units in the building here comes [0:52:14, 0:52:17]: I was a little confused because I thought it's a gent item. [0:52:17, 0:52:18]: What is dealing with [0:52:18, 0:52:19]: The setback. [0:52:19, 0:52:20]: No, it's a Lamonian. [0:52:21, 0:52:22]: Well I'm looking at [0:52:23, 0:52:27]: I'm looking at the document here. I'm looking at the background. [0:52:27, 0:52:30]: It's a fan cry for your setback, bada daddy. [0:52:31, 0:52:33]: Uh well, my point is this though. Um [0:52:33, 0:52:36]: I'm a little concerned with the change. [0:52:36, 0:52:39]: I'm looking for future. I'm not concerned about [0:52:39, 0:52:50]: uh widening of ropes, sidewalks, someone mentioned uh street lights. So I'm just so concerned about setback when [0:52:50, 0:52:55]: when we future and we don't have uh that room to do it because I know that [0:52:55, 0:53:05]: Road improvements does not keep up with developments. So we come with the development and then we gotta go back with road improvements, sidewalk, et cetera, et cetera. And you do this what you build. [0:53:06, 0:53:07]: And you can't come. [0:53:07, 0:53:13]: with the uh road improvements for an example Eastern Road, the improved act. [0:53:13, 0:53:16]: And we knew going in that we needed [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: Um to widen. [0:53:19, 0:53:33]: Eastern Line Road. But I don't know how we can do it now because we approve, you know, the setback. That that's that's that's my major term. And I just want to start just going for us to be a little caution, uh, especially if we're talking about improving roads for future. Because once you build, [0:53:34, 0:53:38]: And that that is amazing, and it was curving better. [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: Thank you. How are you back? No problem. Any other comments from the council? [0:53:42, 0:53:50]: Go ahead. Go ahead, please. I wanted to ask, okay, so this includes um major corridor as well, the setback for major corridor, not just the interior of the building. [0:53:51, 0:53:52]: Yes, it does. Yes, ma'am. [0:53:52, 0:53:53]: Thank you. [0:53:53, 0:54:13]: Questions? This is just appeal. That's just a presentation. We can take to the planning commission and bring it back. So we're taking this on this tonight. How can before you think we get it back? Uh we're taking the planning commission uh in eight in August. We'll be back with council. The first time we didn't set him, the city council meeting question. So no first includes emotion, right? So what's [0:54:13, 0:54:33]: like I think we the size of the towns in terms of uh the minimum amount allowed in certain different districts of the city. My desire is to have a more a larger town home requirement. So the townhome is indistinguishable between the town home and the single family home. The only in the town home the the larger townhomes and the single houses you don't have a [0:54:33, 0:54:53]: yard but once you walk in the door you should be able to tell a different in really nice development town homes are just like single family homes. Currently we have a minimum size requirement of fifteen hundred feet in the city for right I guess the different different certain areas you might want a larger size though what triggers that in terms of I want to in a certain area you might want a nicer larger town. Certainly don't want to exclude [0:54:53, 0:55:13]: exclude um every town home or being a big one or you know you might want to want a small home for 40. But we're keeping the same all down when there should should be some variation and what get we could probably look at about I mean I don't know if uh how this works out but we can look at maybe um a percentage breakdown, X not to be this size, X number have to be that size, and so on. [0:55:13, 0:55:15]: We could look into the S fees. [0:55:15, 0:55:35]: Right,'cause again there are town homes that are like I said, twenty five hundred, three thousand square feet. We have some of that so we don't keep keeping in a s a smaller fifteen to two thousand square foot town home being proposed. All right, thank you. Uh [0:55:35, 0:55:55]: Council consider Russian proved the renewal request for proposal RP number two zero two zero zero zero six on hall general change services for the established with Faculty Zach Consults L L C Mr. Yes Mr Mayor we're just for tonight to ask that we renew the contract balcon the second renewal under this agreement and as you're well aware faculty numerous prospects to see that they [0:55:55, 0:56:03]: are overseeing for us from CLIS to split and also uh water and sewer infrastructure. So we're asking for renewal of this contract to do the second renewal. [0:56:03, 0:56:05]: I thank you. Questions, Council? [0:56:05, 0:56:25]: No question emotion. So moved. Is there second? Mr. Mr. Dan on presentate. Thank you very much. Uh council consideration renewed contract uh RFP and zero one eight zero zero one zero q non has a waste of post services uh public services in the amount of uh fifty five thousand dollars uh funding work [0:56:25, 0:56:45]: Mr. Please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. We're coming tonight to act to uh renew the contract with the public so that we can take sludge to the first whole there are one of the landfills in the state that takes uh sludge generated from the wet water treatment process. So we're asking for approval. [0:56:45, 0:56:46]: Got it. [0:56:46, 0:56:47]: [3408.0, 3412.7]: I moved. Is there a second? So Ms. Gandhaus in our favor, please indicate. [0:56:53, 0:57:09]: Thank you, Ms. Mayor. Um just wanna make sure Miss Barber. I'll abstand and I have comment too. Okay you'll stay a four zero one Miss Burgoy's comment. Okay. I'm not standing because the copy of contract is simple. I couldn't read it at all. [0:57:10, 0:57:10]: Cut. [0:57:11, 0:57:24]: Mr. Go ahead, please. Okay. Let me I just want to ask you a question and certainly we're not taking action on it. And when you previous about um the landscaping contract near downtown Stockbridge, you were attempting to extend that contract to the end of twenty twenty five, right? [0:57:25, 0:57:35]: With yellow? Yes. Uh we renewed the contract but one right before we asked for additional funding that we had budgeted so that when certain issues came up they wanna be added to that contract we could. [0:57:35, 0:57:55]: Right. Was that contract I mean we subsequent that we extended contracts to the UN? Was that contract ended twenty twenty five or extended to the end of the year? It was extended to twenty twenty five. Okay, so are we able to lock in a rate for this year continuing to that? Yes sir. Okay, and before you leave, so what uh are you prepared that we need in order to maintain the area or did do you need [0:57:55, 0:57:56]: So don't for council. [0:57:57, 0:57:59]: But he speaks partic particularly speaking in the century. [0:57:59, 0:58:05]: Well I sent an email to Peter asking if you wanted me to get a quote from Yellow Talk to include that [0:58:05, 0:58:20]: In there was me that motion that anything on the fifty five thousand dollars, Mr. Marcus, and anything above that would have come before council, probably without the June meetings out we all just don't get a quote from India with the manager. So we do serve. Thank you. Yes. Okay. [0:58:20, 0:58:27]: All right. So consideration of contract number twenty four zero four financial audit services one and J can certified accountants. Mr. Gunnar, please. [0:58:39, 0:58:58]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um we have for us uh contract to award a contract to uh Holden and Jenkins for Finance Audit Service um for for December twenty fiscal years ending in December thirty first, twenty twenty-four through twenty twenty-five, twenty twenty-six, twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight. [0:58:58, 0:59:18]: Um so it will be full in accordance with the building standards. Um bid put out a bid was awarded there were three uh bidders that were part of that Multin Jenkins, CK, CKH, CPA, advised group, HCT, Spire Public Accounts and Consult, with Jenkins being rank one, and the cost of trading the staff recognition to award the country Molton and Jenkins for the first year 62. [0:59:18, 0:59:29]: five, sixty two thousand five hundred, six and number two uh sixty five, you know three, sixty seven five, number f number three, excuse me, seventy, and yen number seventy two. [0:59:30, 0:59:33]: Good questions, Council, Mr. Garner. Playboard. [0:59:34, 0:59:40]: Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mayor Um Mr. Notice that this proposal contract that is recommending um [0:59:40, 0:59:44]: All covers the fiscal year of twenty twenty four through twenty twenty eight. [0:59:45, 0:59:46]: So what about [0:59:47, 0:59:53]: the auditing of our twenty twenty three financials. There's under that contract, and that's the reason why that contract ends above this year. [0:59:53, 0:59:57]: Okay, so the council approved a director, engineering of Bishop. [0:59:57, 0:59:58]: Um [0:59:58, 1:00:00]: Requiring step two. [1:00:00, 1:00:01]: Most solicitation. [1:00:01, 1:00:04]: Searching for a new autograph. Yes. [1:00:04, 1:00:06]: I have some concerns. Yes, sir. [1:00:06, 1:00:10]: Everybody here have concerns. In fact, I have a open complaint. [1:00:10, 1:00:12]: That includes regarding [1:00:13, 1:00:14]: The independent audit. [1:00:14, 1:00:16]: Independent office are important. [1:00:17, 1:00:23]: Because they A and N and tech RC's financial reporting systems and the internal process. [1:00:23, 1:00:28]: The CA firms are independent auditors expect to be unbiased, hence the term independent. [1:00:29, 1:00:31]: In the odds provided no checks and balances. [1:00:32, 1:00:33]: Promote NPC and I'll [1:00:33, 1:00:36]: Independent helps identify potential risk. [1:00:36, 1:00:40]: I don't understand a statement of finances are caused by manera or fraud. [1:00:40, 1:00:41]: I just want to make sure. [1:00:41, 1:00:43]: That um [1:00:45, 1:00:48]: This auditing firm or whatever auditing firm they can also choose. [1:00:48, 1:00:49]: They understand. [1:00:50, 1:00:51]: That the [1:00:51, 1:00:52]: Contract. [1:00:52, 1:00:56]: The engagement letter from the audit burn is to be addressed specifically. [1:00:56, 1:01:05]: To the governing body to include all final results and observations. They must be addressed to the governing body and must be delivered to the governing body. [1:01:05, 1:01:07]: I stand that in the past I have handled [1:01:08, 1:01:09]: The independent audit. [1:01:09, 1:01:11]: Provide it to the council. [1:01:11, 1:01:13]: That happened that didn't happen with the twenty two. [1:01:14, 1:01:14]: Oddals. [1:01:15, 1:01:19]: I have serious concerns. Um so I just want to make those for the record. [1:01:19, 1:01:20]: Um that's all. [1:01:21, 1:01:22]: Yes, sir. Good place. [1:01:23, 1:01:30]: Uh sorry, I I I barely hear you. You mentioned when the question was asked about the twenty twenty three are [1:01:31, 1:01:44]: Which would be your answer. So Molden and Jenkins are still a contract and looked at with the they have new new contract if approved by council will staff for this fill year moving forward into twenty twenty. They were still on the existing contract to fill up until the end this year. [1:01:45, 1:01:46]: So the country. [1:01:47, 1:02:03]: to free an obligation for twenty twenty three. Twenty twenty four twenty twenty four twenty twenty three, yes, for F twenty eight. So you look at that so that report completed in prison. [1:02:03, 1:02:05]: Okay. [1:02:05, 1:02:11]: And I guess my problem is [1:02:12, 1:02:16]: And I'm trying to be real delicate as how I phrase my my comment. Um [1:02:18, 1:02:20]: It would something sit well with me. [1:02:20, 1:02:23]: Uh in the process we did not see [1:02:24, 1:02:44]: dumb body that now see the information. I've been here long enough, Mo uh Marlon Jenkins, and up until a certain point, it just seemed that the reporting to the government body saw change. And I was concerned with that enough still concern about twenty twenty three. Here we are trying to prove twenty twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven [1:02:44, 1:02:50]: And I know it's in city's favor as he proved on a year basis. [1:02:50, 1:02:53]: I'm just a problem with that. And I'm just not ready. [1:02:55, 1:02:57]: Gibbs type an extension. [1:02:58, 1:03:00]: The barrel's bound is reset. [1:03:00, 1:03:01]: And how [1:03:01, 1:03:03]: We receive the art. [1:03:03, 1:03:21]: and have conversation there in. So I just I'll just have a problem. So I cannot approve this until we actually and I asked how they won't hear today so I can ask some direct questions. But to approve as standard number because um some is I have and I don't think you can those I just like to ask these questions directly to Mullin J. [1:03:21, 1:03:26]: Thank you, Mayor. All right, no problem. Any comments? When so [1:03:26, 1:03:30]: Modern engines are coming to a twenty twenty three audit in center. [1:03:30, 1:03:50]: Is that their normal time present presentation past years? Have they presented the for the year out? It's always been in September. Okay. So from year past usually the presentation is done between months of August and October. For the year b after because you can't wait until it's complete. [1:03:50, 1:03:59]: Right. So twenty twenty-four, late twenty-five to get the audit report because you gotta finish your year, correct? In addition to that, let me ask you this, is there um [1:04:02, 1:04:10]: Is there a particular uh and I've heard about this audio let me think about this really cannot work this if [1:04:10, 1:04:15]: uh the contract. We put out you heard a comment that was stated that we were to put out [1:04:15, 1:04:25]: I staff to put out for a financial officer service again. Is that correct? Yes. Did we do that? Did we perform that? And how many people came back with that? Three. [1:04:26, 1:04:34]: And then ranked and scored based off of performance, based off of uh expertise. Well, how are they ranked and scored? Yes. So the reports were evaluated. Um [1:04:35, 1:04:43]: Based on the front qualifications, you personnel, technical process, product management, experience, cost. Okay. All right. So it it's based off of that. And [1:04:44, 1:04:55]: Prior to that, in the year 2023, we not received did or did we not receive an audit report from Mom and Jenkins. [1:04:55, 1:05:09]: Right to twenty twenty two? Two twenty three. Did we receive one for twenty twenty two? Okay. Still in that time frame between August You got it November. Okay. So there are two types of audit. [1:05:10, 1:05:30]: When you get over a certain amount of federal dollars you require to have a single audit, which is a little bit more intense than your typical audit. When you have X I'm sorry, when you they're they're typically two audits. So when you think we're voting five hundred thousand dollars or more of federal dollars you're required to do a single audit based on feds and that's a little more intensive and as you know, the city of Stuck but most cities got cares acting. Um from [1:05:29, 1:05:49]: From the feds, I mean the upper funds from the feds. So that required us because you've got Starkbridge got around a million dollars um of uh upper funds. And I do not do not because it wasn't here how much you all actually got in cares, but because you're similar to each point, so it's probably been somewhere around six, seven million dollars. Um so that based on those two folks just required to do a single audit, which is a bit more intense than the other. [1:05:49, 1:06:09]: Okay. And so that because of that said it in August through September it came it came out and that was our and that and I understand of it, that was our first time getting in this year. Obviously they've done badge because now f the subway is fairly big of the federal ones. Okay. So we'll probably be in the same order for that. [1:06:09, 1:06:11]: Let me ask you whether or not. [1:06:11, 1:06:12]: We [1:06:12, 1:06:17]: We did have a change in um with internally with our treasure, is that not correct? [1:06:17, 1:06:20]: Yes. And when was that change? What month was that? [1:06:21, 1:06:41]: I think Mr Rigans left in October, I think it might have been. October. October twenty twenty three. Yes, right. So a year. Or was it to our new chest or how long was the gap in between in in order to get these numbers and everything together for the auditor? Because we have students as well, correct? Yes, sir. So you're [1:06:41, 1:06:43]: The entire staff and Mr Wins left. [1:06:44, 1:07:04]: So the entire staff turned over when Mr. Williams left. So you have your interim uh treasurer and we got a new and two new accounting who um can and they have been working the lead uh with auditors to get all the information they necessarily the the FY tree. Okay. So based off of the statements that you made, some parts that I call is one you have. [1:07:04, 1:07:06]: And director change in staff. [1:07:07, 1:07:09]: Or the pos in and treasure darkness. [1:07:09, 1:07:28]: Complete change. Two, not unusual for us to receive our reports during this time frame 2022. That's a delay because we also received our for the cares and ARP fund. Is that correct? That's right. And three, we have chose and staff had recommended that we also approve on construct twenty twenty for dash zero to Malden and Jenkins. [1:07:29, 1:07:36]: Based off of ranking and we did exactly what Yeah, we I'm sorry, staff did exactly what was requested, would put it back out, right? Forbid. [1:07:36, 1:07:43]: And and you've got them through their expertise and staff and all of the things that we have to do in order for them to qualify, correct? [1:07:43, 1:07:52]: Yes, ma'am. All right. And you have uh full fa in your they would make the right decision on that, right? Yes, ma'am. All right. I'm just asking. And I know I said I come in court, I'm sorry, I've in court. [1:07:52, 1:07:57]: But no, I have it. Um and so I just wanna make points and everyone listen to those points. [1:07:57, 1:08:17]: To take into consideration of the entire to flood chances. And now I'm out here trying to say, let's go ahead and vote. I can do and vote after they present it if everybody's waiting to till they're comfortable renewed the contract, unless there's some rush. I appreciate staff. Thank you for being proactive to get those items. They're coming in September and it are [1:08:17, 1:08:27]: members still have questions in regards to that, then I totally honor the suggestions suggest that was mentioned. Um I just want to break point across so that it can be noted. [1:08:27, 1:08:43]: For reasons and that this is not unusual. That's all. And I appreciate you. Thank you. And follow up question. One one second, please. Ms. Burke, please. Um Ms. Gardener, uh Miss Pincrett was here but the [1:08:43, 1:08:45]: You have Mr twenty four winter. [1:08:45, 1:09:01]: No, so that's for that was last last November for FY twenty the F last November twenty two strictly over the FY twenty two. She'd not been she had not been here twenty. No, so not yet. The the coming September. So the last she was here, she reported on the year five twenty two. [1:09:01, 1:09:02]: Twenty two. [1:09:02, 1:09:03]: Two. Yes, sir. [1:09:05, 1:09:22]: FY twenty two is reviewed and FY twenty three, FY twenty three will be done FY twenty four, FY twenty four will be reviewed F twenty five. That's December thirty first. So once a fiscal year ends and they close out the books and that's the the year the previous years audited. That's not nationwide. No, no, I I on an ad point. I'm I'm just trying to [1:09:23, 1:09:43]: Recollect because I'm picturing uh the documents that I have uh 2022, 2021 going back. And I was trying to recollect the time frame of when the report was given. And I know she was here um recently and I just can recall the issue of the report on, but the left document. [1:09:43, 1:09:45]: [4185.3, 4185.8]: Thank you. [1:09:46, 1:09:49]: Yes. Gartner if he wanted. [1:09:49, 1:10:09]: I was just gonna say that, you know, the goals to get this earlier to you guys how as you as I mentioned, you know, we had turnover and staff, um left. Um we had another gentleman and he left um for another job collected to somewhere else. And so we obviously ran through process and brought somebody on who hopefully with us for a while. Um and um she was she had to get acclimated to [1:10:09, 1:10:17]: Accommitted to what's going on and how things procedures and working with existing staff and what you are here for you now. And then you've been put on the board. I wanted to stay with a while. [1:10:17, 1:10:18]: Mm-hmm. [1:10:18, 1:10:25]: Yes, uh thank you Mr. Gar, I appreciate that. So I wanted to just provide clarity for the curtain. As I mentioned, I do have a um [1:10:25, 1:10:30]: complaint that I filed in regards to the independent odd process. It's independent for [1:10:31, 1:10:34]: It was being given right to the government, not to staff. [1:10:35, 1:10:38]: Age better in prior years, specifically six [1:10:39, 1:10:40]: Response to um [1:10:41, 1:10:45]: The directive that was given to staff in January of this year. [1:10:45, 1:10:56]: In fact, it was their council meeting of this year. The directive was staff to uh post or solicit um new proposals for number and to bring back staff's recommendation. [1:10:56, 1:10:57]: Up toward. [1:10:57, 1:11:00]: to a new auditing by our March council meeting. [1:11:01, 1:11:02]: That was the directed [1:11:02, 1:11:10]: But it's in the meeting minutes. Yes, ma'am. And based on what Ms. Arnold mentioned, that he hadn't covered in both and procurement. Um [1:11:10, 1:11:13]: I've been asking about board of this contract. [1:11:13, 1:11:14]: Smart. [1:11:15, 1:11:15]: Fight. [1:11:16, 1:11:16]: Um [1:11:16, 1:11:21]: But nonetheless, we're here now concerned about the process, as was last year. [1:11:22, 1:11:23]: The fact that [1:11:23, 1:11:26]: The auditor didn't present to the council until November. [1:11:26, 1:11:27]: Yeah. [1:11:29, 1:11:32]: That was that no fault of um not having stuff. [1:11:33, 1:11:35]: That was not due to staff all. [1:11:36, 1:11:38]: It was due to council interference. [1:11:38, 1:11:43]: Council gave a directive to hold the independent on a November. [1:11:43, 1:11:44]: Last year. [1:11:44, 1:11:45]: So when the auto did present [1:11:46, 1:11:47]: She gave maybe a five. [1:11:48, 1:11:51]: ten minute presentation and it wasn't presentation, she didn't show us anything. [1:11:52, 1:11:54]: What happened was while she was here. [1:11:54, 1:11:55]: Staff. [1:11:55, 1:11:57]: As we're sitting on the dice as we are right now. [1:11:58, 1:12:01]: And a helipus. [1:12:01, 1:12:09]: Copies of the Kapper report, not the independent audit. It was the Kapper report. And the reason why I had asked him since July 2023. [1:12:10, 1:12:14]: To receive a copy of the independent audit, root, not internal. [1:12:14, 1:12:16]: Catherine reports. [1:12:16, 1:12:18]: The independent audit report [1:12:19, 1:12:20]: For twenty twenty two. [1:12:21, 1:12:25]: Just been to this council on thirty four. [1:12:26, 1:12:30]: Let me say that again. The twenty twenty-two independent audit results. [1:12:31, 1:12:36]: were finally given to the council April of April thirtieth, twenty twenty four. [1:12:36, 1:12:38]: I've been asking Tim Uh's. [1:12:38, 1:12:44]: I'll be real clear, when it comes to finances of this city, the governing body has a fiduciary responsibility. [1:12:44, 1:12:50]: To ensure that we find to status our city. It is our responsibility to ensure there is no waste, fraud, or abuse. [1:12:51, 1:12:56]: We can't do our job this being interfered with. This infant's supposed to come directly to the governing body. [1:12:57, 1:13:02]: The engaged letter in five years have been stick. It addressed to the mayor and council. [1:13:03, 1:13:04]: So coincidentally. [1:13:05, 1:13:09]: Last year the engagement letter was changed to include staff [1:13:09, 1:13:15]: I don't want to go a whole lot of details specific regarding the independent that were filing given to the council for the twenty [1:13:15, 1:13:20]: Twenty two by details because I do have [1:13:20, 1:13:21]: To some point. [1:13:21, 1:13:22]: Regarding [1:13:22, 1:13:24]: And there is another complaint that I've stated. [1:13:25, 1:13:27]: We can move along with this, but I do have more questions. [1:13:28, 1:13:28]: Um [1:13:29, 1:13:31]: Oh yeah. [1:13:31, 1:13:36]: We're working with that, Mr. Barton. We're working together to make sure that all our numbers are correct because he put it up there in his phone. [1:13:36, 1:13:42]: Yes. All go hear it now. So where we hear the thing is one hundred percent correct mail. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. [1:13:43, 1:13:49]: Ms. Gang Boy, please. Thank you. Um everyone got immune code and the city is operating. On November thirteenth, twenty twenty three. Not [1:13:50, 1:13:56]: In twenty twenty-three. Again, twenty twenty-two, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three, is twenty twenty four. November thirteenth, twenty twenty-three. [1:13:58, 1:14:00]: On presentation agenda. [1:14:00, 1:14:08]: Item number five, the twenty-two auditor discussion analysis of the annual comprehensive financial report from Alden and Jeans took place. [1:14:09, 1:14:13]: That took place on November thirteenth, twenty twenty. The Municode. [1:14:14, 1:14:28]: The mids are here to discuss what Miss Pendergrass noted that while the city approved the three point seven seven million rates, sit sisters are already paying one point nine oh four, kept talking about the summary, what she talked about in regards to finance report in year of the odd of twenty twenty two. [1:14:28, 1:14:29]: There detailed. [1:14:30, 1:14:43]: It continues on all questions that we asked. It even has no council asked the auditor to explain any audit adjustments or the audit adjustments because they were made to be of concern. 2023. November 2023. [1:14:43, 1:14:56]: A twenty twenty-three audit was discussed. As Mr. Gardner mentioned, it was actually presented to us. In addition, at that twenty twenty-three number five ja item, Councilwoman Barber even chin made a request to receive a copying letter. [1:14:56, 1:14:57]: Audit. [1:14:57, 1:15:04]: And the ministry reports are the adjustments that were submitted to the management staff from all the things, because that's the way it was explained to us during the audit review. [1:15:06, 1:15:06]: Yeah. [1:15:07, 1:15:07]: You know. [1:15:08, 1:15:22]: I was just told heard comments and statements, not in court. Again, I'm not in court, but I want don't want to mislead the public. I don't want that. Each and every one of us are passionate here. I don't want to go back and forth, but I do want the facts to be state and [1:15:22, 1:15:24]: It's here in black and white. [1:15:24, 1:15:26]: That did take place in twenty twenty four. [1:15:27, 1:15:35]: We discussed audit and it was presented by Baldon and Dickens, Pentagras, on November, 2023. And it was the 2022, as we have explained before. [1:15:36, 1:15:43]: Two three will be during the September between August and September meaning August through October, one of those dates, once you have everything. [1:15:43, 1:15:44]: twenty twenty four being twenty twenty five. [1:15:45, 1:15:48]: But in our minutes. [1:15:49, 1:16:09]: Let me just say this. Mr. Gardner, I thank you all. You guys executed. You went through the process. You put it out. It came back. Mald Indians audit over three hundred seats in the state of Georgia. They are by far the largest auditing firm from small cities to large municipalities. They have done uh they are we have full faith. [1:16:09, 1:16:29]: confidence in their ability to execute. I I often wonder sometimes about questions. It's always easy asked questions, but I haven't heard any facts about any funding this way or that way. Money missing or I'm going around it. It is it is complex that this job is part and part science. There's a one plus two is four. [1:16:29, 1:16:32]: There is a lot of we need to do to move the needle forward. [1:16:32, 1:16:52]: When I got on this council, the budget was eight point six dollars. I remember that number just like it was yesterday. And Mr. What what what is the budget uh the budget for the poll budget for the upcoming year alternative number you think we near? It's uh that twenty nine. General on yes. Twenty nine. So we've gone from a eight point six million dollar budget in my first year to almost thirty [1:16:52, 1:17:00]: million dollar budget. The complexity of that budget has changed over time, going from eight million dollars to thirty million dollars. Is that correct? [1:17:00, 1:17:20]: Yes, sir. And in the midst of that, in last year when we're done at eight point six we were growing, we added a whole fleet department in order to in order to protect public safety spending dollars, spending additional care styles, spending additional American rescue plan fund dollars that were brought into the city to make uh additional improvements all strived for when we took [1:17:20, 1:17:21]: This gun. [1:17:21, 1:17:33]: So as you have exchanged those extra dollars require extra time of staff and it is required extra time uh to put those reports together in the midst of turmoil and turnover of staff members. [1:17:33, 1:17:39]: And it might be said because of interference that those have members may not potentially be possibly. [1:17:40, 1:18:00]: And it is without saying that staff changes have affected our ability to be turn on a dime and to create the different information that uh that it will require. Because an experienced season person that was already there would know what a bathroom is. They would know what information was to be able to retrieve it versus constantly have to go through the process [1:18:00, 1:18:03]: [4684.2, 4701.6]: the points that the complexity of the of this particular process has been consistent and as Ms. Gantt indicated, with the city insisted and time frame to have allotted and these reports come in and reports have come in what the re but general consists of what Maldon and Genius has included has included about cities audits. [1:18:22, 1:18:23]: Year to year. [1:18:23, 1:18:40]: Um yeah the city's had uh um well uh I forget how it does, but and uh it's been a a clear audit, but they have had like let's define areas where I think and need to make improvements. Um that happens in pretty much every audit. They're gonna find something and they're gonna do you this is what we found and you need to address these issues. [1:18:41, 1:18:55]: So no there's 100 cleaning audit. Um not for any seat available. And and one thing I think the mayor and I were having this conversation, we we were at a gathering just the other day, and the mayor likes to say this that the amphitheater made off Mayor? And one year from uh August twenty. [1:18:55, 1:19:15]: In order to do that, it affected uh we were able to do that because we were financially sound. Right. There's no way we would pay off the debt if we had not been financially sound on a twenty million dollar facility in five years. It worked. Now certainly we could have taken our early year uh extended bond in order to pay for it, but being that we were on [1:19:15, 1:19:35]: On top of that, we were able to some cash out of the reserves to pay for the facility and then come back and need it, saving the taxpayers millions of dollars over the time in order to do that. Right? Absolutely. And those are the kind of principles that we put in place and to the solid foundation in order to do that. Think about that. Again, we put off a nearly, we're gonna pay off a nearly two million dollar facility. [1:19:35, 1:19:36]: that the public adores. [1:19:37, 1:19:48]: In less than five years because the city was so financial sound. That's the whole statement by itself and in how the city has been run and how we run our finances. [1:19:49, 1:20:06]: Well in regards to the uh farm me and stewards here and uh being a part of the history of everything, um I just wanted to ask a couple of questions. Um is the issue or I guess the the concern about the results or is it about the follow-up of the results? Like we're I guess my my addressing to you is one of the major concerns. [1:20:06, 1:20:18]: We have more than Jenkins and but they be mitigated by going to another firm. Like is the issue are we chasing it in our egg? Is it the issue with the results of the art or the actions like been seeing discover or the lack of discovery? Like where where is the [1:20:19, 1:20:20]: The chat. [1:20:22, 1:20:22]: [4822.9, 4842.6]: I can answer the question. Um I mean Mother Jenkins is a renowned auditing firm. Um I said Mother Jenkins is a renowned um auditing firm. Um I I always tell you there's no perfect person that's in um the perfect person we know left here two thousand twenty-four years ago. There's about um [1:20:42, 1:20:53]: So is it a perfect auditor? No. Is the perfect protest? No. Um but uh you know, we put a bit and if the council don't like Martin Lenkins, even if you put him a contract, spiral. [1:20:54, 1:21:02]: Literally. You can always engage, get a sixty or thirty-day notice, and throw it and go with somebody's. Uh that's pretty much standard contract. Standard language. Um [1:21:02, 1:21:12]: But no, obviously there was some hip with them doing the F Y twenty two. I think one of the issues was this was a that was our first year under federal going I think um [1:21:12, 1:21:15]: I think that they used to turn a lot of these, but I still audit Vic. So [1:21:16, 1:21:36]: You know, this year we made it personally to get his audit done and get it together. That's because the timing was everybody some some kind of complaint about the time. And so we worked diligently to make sure we get it able then, you know, we're gonna try to get it to to the first meeting in September. If you get it earlier, we'll make that happen at the last one. But definitely we've made some strides there. And last question, how you did forget the two. [1:21:36, 1:21:49]: to readdress the concerns about pinna on address to the council L tag. I would make sure how hard it's to just redirect that question. I will make sure that it did that's understood. That goes from from council member um Barber's comment team, and I will make sure that they address those issues. [1:21:49, 1:22:03]: Yes, sir. I also need a motion, um a motion to other septists contract. So let me make one more comment that feels necessary at this point. I think one of the reasons that you keep the staff involved in the process is to move the politics of it. [1:22:03, 1:22:11]: You don't want it to get up here and somebody's just saying this, that is going on with all that. We want to be completely rude on that, getting the information as we should get it. [1:22:12, 1:22:25]: Okay. But at the same you don't want the council overly involved in the process of doing what's necessary to make that happen. And Maldon and Lincolns are up more confidence to do it. Certainly it should be this issue should not be political. Maldon and Dickins is solid. [1:22:27, 1:22:34]: Before okay, I'm gonna do something. Listen listen. Thomas Barber. That's it. Do we gotta take a list? Move on, right? [1:22:34, 1:22:36]: The only thing I wanna say, Mayor, is [1:22:37, 1:22:40]: I was elected here in the city of Origin twenty eleven. [1:22:40, 1:22:43]: For the most part, Marlin and Jacob have been here. [1:22:43, 1:22:44]: So [1:22:45, 1:22:47]: I just buy my concerns. [1:22:48, 1:22:50]: I guess incumbent upon all but to make sure. [1:22:51, 1:22:52]: Yeah we right. [1:22:53, 1:22:55]: Uh someone stated Mullin Jacan. [1:22:55, 1:22:57]: Work for a number of municipalities. [1:22:57, 1:22:59]: True, they are professionals. [1:23:00, 1:23:01]: This is their job. [1:23:02, 1:23:03]: This is what they're paid to do. [1:23:04, 1:23:05]: The city measure [1:23:06, 1:23:09]: And all of the staff that we have here, that bad job. [1:23:10, 1:23:11]: What they pay to do. [1:23:11, 1:23:16]: Yes, there are challenges, yes. But at the end of the day, you have to get the job done. [1:23:17, 1:23:19]: If you had to be all you could done. [1:23:19, 1:23:23]: Oh, I'm not trying to get in the way. [1:23:24, 1:23:29]: just trying to make sure that it is done correctly. Because one thing about financial reports [1:23:30, 1:23:34]: If the council is held to make decisions, [1:23:34, 1:23:39]: for this municipality. We have to have this information in for us to make a [1:23:40, 1:23:43]: intelligent, disease and and what I talk about all the time. [1:23:43, 1:23:50]: Just do your job, do it right, give us the information. And if it's supposed to report to the council, then you report to the council. [1:23:51, 1:23:58]: That's on could I say I've been Marlon and Jenkins. We have never had any issues with Marlon and Jenkins in the past, but for what some odd reason. [1:23:59, 1:24:05]: Lately we we ran into some kind of roadblock and just the report just not come forward. [1:24:05, 1:24:07]: And I'm just concerned as to why. [1:24:08, 1:24:12]: And I'm not accusing anybody interfering with process. [1:24:12, 1:24:13]: But I didn't update now. [1:24:14, 1:24:15]: And that was my concern. [1:24:16, 1:24:18]: I've been dealing with Marlon Jenkins twenty eleven. [1:24:19, 1:24:22]: And hadn't had any problem with him. Now they didn't close in mirror. [1:24:23, 1:24:43]: We expect and we contract anyone to work for the city of the rear. Just do your job. And I'm not saying they have not. But this is what we expect. So any excuses that should make I'm getting into that. If you can't do the job, say you can't do the job. But I'm just saying when we contract out anyone, we expect them to do the job and nothing less. So I don't have any problem. I expect them to do [1:24:43, 1:24:52]: the job. They are professional. So we have staff here. I expect staff to do the job just as citizens. And they let us set position, they expect us to do the job. [1:24:53, 1:24:57]: We all are expected to staff, council, contractors, [1:24:58, 1:25:18]: Everybody, our attorneys. We're expecting to do a job. And it's up to all us to just to make sure as much as we can that folks do their job. But nothing just what I'm saying is I just want folks to do a job. Give me information so I can make decisions that I need to make. Thank you, Mayor. Um Miss Brother Les Pellman, go ahead, please. Yes, uh so if it is a desire of the council to award the contract to [1:25:18, 1:25:19]: Um [1:25:19, 1:25:21]: Auditing from a staff recommending. [1:25:21, 1:25:24]: But I'll make sure that um engage a letter. [1:25:25, 1:25:26]: Um is specific. [1:25:28, 1:25:29]: That language [1:25:30, 1:25:31]: Describes the process. [1:25:32, 1:25:36]: The auditing arm to send the results directly to somebody. [1:25:37, 1:25:52]: I just want to make sure that that is um included. So the CAF report has provided to the council during the November 13th, 2023 meeting, that was the CAF report, certified or comprehensive county, that are internal staff or finance department. [1:25:52, 1:25:57]: They provide that. They prepare it, they combine, they compile all the information. [1:25:57, 1:26:01]: For ten months I was sick in a request, email and even in these meetings. [1:26:01, 1:26:04]: Mel makes emails. [1:26:04, 1:26:07]: Where the independent results directly from [1:26:08, 1:26:09]: Make sure that that is the right. [1:26:09, 1:26:15]: Staff kept giving me the capprint in lieu of the independent officers direct firm. [1:26:16, 1:26:20]: That's all I'll say'cause I still have open complaints regarding this process. Thank you. [1:26:21, 1:26:24]: I don't know if uh the section of the single. [1:26:25, 1:26:25]: Is there a motion? [1:26:26, 1:26:27]: Some more. [1:26:27, 1:26:30]: I see it. [1:26:31, 1:26:33]: But he overcent. [1:26:33, 1:26:33]: Pusando. [1:26:34, 1:26:37]: That's correct. Favorite mo your favor? [1:26:37, 1:26:50]: Okay, four. Four favor. Okay. Four favorite favor and some I'll abstain. Four zero one. All right. Thank you. Most four zero one. All right. What is next is the mid F what twenty for mid year review. Ms. Gaines, please. [1:26:53, 1:26:54]: Evening. [1:26:56, 1:26:57]: Didn't you? [1:27:10, 1:27:11]: Mm-hmm. [1:27:23, 1:27:25]: I'm going to redo the year to date. [1:27:26, 1:27:27]: Made review for you. Yes. [1:27:29, 1:27:35]: This just takes the mission of the Finance Party awareness to provide public and consultation to the sea regarding all of its finances. [1:27:36, 1:27:37]: Yeah, I see. [1:27:39, 1:27:42]: Okay. Thank you. [1:27:43, 1:27:53]: Okay, this is just an overview of all the funds, general funds included along with the enterprises and to date. For the month of June, we've collected four million dollars in revenue. [1:27:56, 1:28:13]: We have breakdown of the revenue by class, taxes, licenses and permits, intergovernment revenues, charge services, finances and forfeitures, investment income, miscellaneous revenue, which comes to a total collected so far$9,715,228. And the diagram shows you the various classes. [1:28:14, 1:28:22]: For the expenditures, and these are broken up by department groups. So far for 2024, we've been$9.5 million. [1:28:25, 1:28:32]: It's a breakdown of renewing spend this department. It shows you how the department has accumulated to the nine point four million dollars. [1:28:36, 1:28:46]: This is a more detailed breakdown of expenses in compared comparison to 2023. And we're on track with the spending and expenses collected as in prior year. [1:28:52, 1:28:56]: This is another look at your revenue and collection and sp expenses. [1:28:58, 1:29:05]: Broke down by category and it shows the original budgeted amount what was collected for the month and how it was collected um for the entire year. [1:29:09, 1:29:21]: And as previously stated, our debt obligations we have debts that will be paid off as of last 2022, which will give the city an additional two point seven million dollar that can allocate to future projects, which shows a 40% increase in debt services. [1:29:25, 1:29:31]: This charges your revenue expenses by month that have been collected and expended for the year before so are. [1:29:33, 1:29:35]: There was a huge collection in April. [1:29:42, 1:29:50]: The Amphet, the Amphitheater is doing pretty good right now. Expenditures as well as the three million dollars. So it's kinda rigging right now. [1:29:51, 1:30:00]: As of June there were four shows performed so far and we still at Levin Remain for season. Completed shows for July and we're going to April shows. [1:30:05, 1:30:13]: And that was pretty much it for presentation. Yes, sir. We'll start. [1:30:15, 1:30:16]: All right. [1:30:20, 1:30:20]: Yes. [1:30:27, 1:30:29]: Yes. Mm-hmm. [1:30:32, 1:30:33]: Yes. [1:30:34, 1:30:34]: Yeah. [1:30:43, 1:30:45]: Um I can air now. [1:30:45, 1:30:52]: The budgets are out at two million dollars and we had an opportunity on the need for a budget adjustment. The revenue collected has upset the spending. [1:30:52, 1:30:54]: Okay. So but but itself. [1:30:55, 1:30:57]: Yes, ma'am. We've exceeded that. [1:30:58, 1:31:01]: When the businesses are looking at our budget. [1:31:01, 1:31:03]: They have concerns because the actual [1:31:04, 1:31:05]: That is showing [1:31:06, 1:31:09]: thousand or fifteen dollars that I actually been spent. [1:31:10, 1:31:13]: I understand with the ampathy operations. [1:31:13, 1:31:15]: The flow of the financial is kinda liquid. [1:31:16, 1:31:19]: You got a lot of trash going on all the time. [1:31:19, 1:31:21]: Um in Throughout the month. Yes. [1:31:21, 1:31:24]: Are you working with um [1:31:25, 1:31:25]: Yeah [1:31:26, 1:31:34]: Director Bampier on magic m monthly expenses and revenues. Or something in Yes ma'am You are receiving monthly statements? [1:31:34, 1:31:41]: No cannot receive a monthly statements, no ma'am. Okay. That is important. Because we need someone [1:31:41, 1:31:44]: An employee or someone's finance. [1:31:44, 1:31:45]: Who is tasked with [1:31:46, 1:31:47]: Checks and balances. [1:31:47, 1:31:50]: А вони кармормані. [1:31:51, 1:31:52]: Someone authorized. [1:31:52, 1:31:55]: They spend money, but they're not bringing it to council and that's a concern. [1:31:55, 1:31:55]: Okay. [1:31:56, 1:31:58]: That it's already spent three million dollars is a concern. [1:32:00, 1:32:03]: Geminen should be coming to the council. Yeah. [1:32:03, 1:32:08]: I don't know the best way to handle it. Um when it comes, see, um [1:32:08, 1:32:17]: That's why most I guess government entities don't get involved with it. Mainly because dealing with taxpayer dollars, every red cent have accounted for. [1:32:18, 1:32:24]: Get um, you know, his philosophy on how he's managing narrations of the amphitheater. Um [1:32:24, 1:32:30]: Profits that he gains from a concert uses for the next concert again holiday. For us [1:32:30, 1:32:31]: [5551.7, 5552.5]: We need to [1:32:32, 1:32:36]: For every penny, every penny coming in. [1:32:36, 1:32:38]: I just wanna know who who's responsible for that. [1:32:39, 1:32:48]: I'm in contact and when funds are requested, um, I review and if the funds are there, I send them. But we collectively haven't spent a total million dollars that shit here. [1:32:49, 1:32:58]: The contractual rate may be one thing, but you're putting on like maybe the deposit and you go per show as the show is gone. So you had the opportunity to see the revenues and the revenues are coming in. So there's not [1:32:59, 1:33:05]: Technically three months has not been spent. That's just the contract rates and total amount that was in there. [1:33:05, 1:33:08]: Doesn't it mean it? I get it. I do. [1:33:08, 1:33:10]: We we cannot [1:33:10, 1:33:17]: Just my my way of thinking. You can't determine that if they successful season until the end of the year. [1:33:18, 1:33:18]: I get it. [1:33:19, 1:33:22]: But we still have to count for these фансохел мі. [1:33:22, 1:33:24]: Figure a way to explain. [1:33:24, 1:33:27]: to the residents, other than, you know, get wait to the end of the year. [1:33:27, 1:33:33]: They don't know that. They know how the money is being so we need to have a comprehensive plan on how to report it. [1:33:33, 1:33:48]: This one is quarterly or whether it's I don't know. Just help me. I can give you monthly reports in regards to the shows that can happen. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. I appreciate that. That will work. On the other monthly financial report for the higher operation of the C. We actually need to see that monthly. [1:33:50, 1:33:54]: Thank you. Same with the city manager's report. We agreed we would on the party. [1:33:55, 1:34:03]: So you want the operating monthly financial reports. I can send them to thank you. The city manager reports need to have those early. Yes. And and you know [1:34:04, 1:34:24]: The the the City Manager's report I've been yet I'm I'm asking this this whole end up'cause going on I'm the last person to s to submit mine. So I'll take one person responsibility'cause I went on with everything and I'm always looking corinna's always jipping on me about it. Uh everybody else is giving it I'm so City Manager's Money Report I I gotta I gotta make the boost of getting them to her on my early logs get over. [1:34:24, 1:34:28]: Thank you. [1:34:29, 1:34:49]: Mr. Zan good please. Yes, uh, we we focus a lot and I think I thank you for the report. Because you know what? Love the Intel. They do. We're the baby this weekend, and people enjoy every last one of those shows. And we finally August of twenty twenty five. August of twenty twenty five. So imagine what it's gonna look like then in terms of profit loss uh for the particular. [1:34:49, 1:34:55]: City. There's other city facilities that we'd focus on. Where what is the breakdown on the Mer Menderson? [1:35:01, 1:35:04]: To take it into perspective in terms how these facilities work. [1:35:04, 1:35:11]: Because uh on a yearly basis, we know going in that we're gonna lose money on Merrill Manners and we subst and we substantially [1:35:11, 1:35:31]: uh subsidize it because it's never going to be money. And we understand that but it is a public benefit to the public to have a facility that can have weddings that they can the city and have public events is lost leaders, so to speak, where we know going in it is a amenity to the community and it is well in the overall budget because it brings in so many unseen rivers. [1:35:31, 1:35:37]: People use it for silly or uh and they purchase gas or they sc go in town or they stay at a hotel or or spend money elsewhere. [1:35:38, 1:35:51]: So far, this year has brought in about one hundred fifty thousand dollars and give you a more detailed report I can send to you on that specific city. How much how much have we uh how much is it the expense or how much has it cost the city? [1:35:53, 1:36:00]: The expenses for the mural mandor are about two hundred fifty thousand dollars, which a little over. I'm sorry. Is it live? No, ma'am. [1:36:01, 1:36:06]: No, I did not. But I can get you the information. So again, repeat that number. Those two numbers again. [1:36:06, 1:36:26]: The profit of running over about$150,000 in the expense of about$250,000. Right. And that number we expected to swell, right? Yes, sir. Because we know that these fillets are for any person. But what they do is to the public is that they help us rebuild the downtown as we're doing with the amphetor, as we're doing with our downtown, attracting new businesses because it brings foot track. [1:36:26, 1:36:46]: In the downtown. You know that it's a long world review of downtown and what it did, uh, where we're going to. I like the way that you you phrased it in terms when you were talking about the amphitheater facility. It had a two million dollar budget, but it brought all of these additional revenues, the other review of the rector, and he did the appropriate thing, which was reached out and he did exactly what the plan consisted of. [1:36:46, 1:37:01]: additional shows that he gave to cancel, right? Bear he gave us tentative stole list and then he went out of the shows that he intended that he had indicated to us that he would fund. So that's been any funding outside of the revenue that he generated has been that he brought in. Yes sir. [1:37:02, 1:37:22]: Right. So folks understand that. Right. And then we had what sponsorships were the sponsorships included in revenue as well. So all of that kind of is baked into the cake of the amphitheater uh is doing as a facility. So uh when we have a sold out show that brings in more revenue and sure, you know, we'll have a big crowd and several of the other [1:37:21, 1:37:36]: So it can go either way depending upon what rhetorical in the crowd we're paying the artists, right? Yes, sir. Okay. So overall I would do grade uh in terms of uh the city's finances at the term your own course what the city manager had laid out to execute this year. [1:37:36, 1:37:42]: Sir, we are we have collected four per forty five percent of revenue so far spent out about three six. So we are [1:37:42, 1:38:02]: A little bit above what we did last year. So we're in our peak months. We also through December when we pick up the revenu the property revenue greatly increased. Right. And as we go along the very funds that are performing, like splost, T splashed, uh and the re and the um you know last cell. Because you know, we we as more businesses come to the community, more revenue is generated. So [1:38:02, 1:38:15]: So that factored into what we're going to do. So these funds being overproduced like T plus PLOS, uh uh can you talk about the bit so T Floss, excuse me. For T S Bloss right now. [1:38:15, 1:38:35]: We have about 20 projects in roughly five completed last year. And for the twenty twenty-four year, we have taken in upwards of twelve million dollars, which have been allocated across the twenty-one projects. For SLUS, we complete two of the four projects that we have in the books and have taken upwards of nineteen million dollars. Ten points that were the continuation of the [1:38:35, 1:38:37]: Water silver is stomped. [1:38:38, 1:38:42]: So yes, we're paying great revenue and they're really getting out there and making somebody's project happen. [1:38:42, 1:39:02]: Right. I appreciate it because what ends up happening is investments that we're making in the city, they're increasing the overall revenue of the city. They have more businesses to locate, especially as you see the fees come in for Jodico project, that's only escalating the t intention of the funding. Mm-hmm. I I certainly focus on as a as a council member member still being good. [1:39:02, 1:39:22]: stewardship of this fund. But really it is our desire to grow the pie, which is increase the revenue side so you don't have to pinch everything and folks and enjoy it. I'll close by saying this the city now need we weren't spending enough money in the past. That's why certain areas in the city look like they look we've increased that investment in the city. [1:39:22, 1:39:41]: Because we want to be proud of the city in the place that we call home. You can see it right outside the door and you can see it in various areas of the city. Money has more invested. Thank you. [1:39:41, 1:39:44]: Every year around is when we start talking, but [1:39:44, 1:39:47]: I know uh Ms. Gardner and staff. [1:39:47, 1:39:51]: uh have in and discuss their wish list you put it that way. [1:39:52, 1:39:54]: My concern has always been [1:39:55, 1:40:15]: being able to operate the city as a whole. I know the amphithemia and different entities goes into the budget and I get that and understand that. But I try to look at the whole operation to make sure that the ship stays afloat. And we have a crack in ship and even if the ship is gonna sink. True. So and that's [1:40:14, 1:40:26]: been always my concern about not having to borrow money from Peter Pay Paul. And you gotta indicate the way things are trending. And correct me if I'm wrong, the way things are trending [1:40:27, 1:40:31]: Um things are looking in the black. Yes. And we are sort of going forward. [1:40:31, 1:40:35]: And so and I know we have a city council budget coming up. [1:40:35, 1:40:37]: And I'll be looking at is [1:40:37, 1:40:40]: How do we find this? [1:40:40, 1:40:53]: code enforcement and some issue may need code enforcement officers because we see some issues that we may need to bend. Uh the department has indicated they need more this and they need more that. So [1:40:53, 1:41:11]: My concern is overall, but I understand, you know, you have revenues and I like to understand the deficit, you know, if there's that hopefully there's not a deficit. I know there's that the military and I was a little ten back prior as I always thought that the uh the budget [1:41:12, 1:41:32]: The expenses, revenue, all of that shit come first. And they don't need deficit, then set your meals because you wanna have a balance, but and I've always asked uh the city manager, uh, did he borrow money from any other source to balance it, but so I'm not gonna ask him that day, but he knows I'm gonna ask that question at all. But when when that time comes around, uh you know the [1:41:32, 1:41:32]: Yeah. [1:41:33, 1:41:35]: So I'm just just making a statement. [1:41:35, 1:41:38]: Um now I it is important for you to submit [1:41:41, 1:42:01]: To submit uh reports to full council. And and I think it is important for us to get uh monthly updates or whatever interval we need to get those. But we need to get those updates because you know it's just embarrassing for us to know, not to be able to answer the the health, the financial health of the city. So we need [1:42:01, 1:42:21]: those funding and for the manager yes needs this report so we gotta stay informed so I would encourage you to send each other members the council uh these updates because we cannot make decisions if we don't have these information as I indicated I will be looking because if I'm going to push uh the police department for neighborhood patrol if I'm going to push uh [1:42:21, 1:42:31]: uh code enforcement to do more and to know they need more code officers but they need a vehicle in order to do their job because as I stated earlier, we expect them to do their job. [1:42:31, 1:42:38]: But if they're being handicapped because of a lack of whoever, then that's just like in public e uh public work with Ms. Harry. [1:42:39, 1:42:51]: Publix is one of the largest staff they have here at the city. And Mr. Aaron knows and I'm laughing because he knows that we're always asking about um the right-of-ways. [1:42:51, 1:42:59]: this, that, and the other. And I understand he needs a bunch of people to do that. He needs to work. And I'm gonna ask Mr. Aaron today, but I will be asking him about general maintenance. [1:43:00, 1:43:09]: about how many folks in general maintenance, how many does he need, you know, the job that need to be done. So I'm just gonna say to you that we need these reports'cause we need to be look [1:43:10, 1:43:13]: There was an a quick about the Mirrorman and we've had discussions about Mirman. [1:43:14, 1:43:20]: But in order for us to look at that comprehensively and to try to correct some of the ill, if you will. [1:43:20, 1:43:36]: We need to have the information. We need to have the fix. We need the the the for us to look at that and try to correct whatever's going on. So but if we do not have the information, we can't make the decision, not intelligently. And we guess we can throw something against the wall and see what's going to say. [1:43:37, 1:43:57]: But we need the actual information, the numbers, the things are trending, what the facts are and we need to then be. So if you would please do uh these financial reports to us so we can be a little bit more intelligent when we talk about uh health and the finances in order for us to make this we just need that information. Understood. [1:43:57, 1:43:58]: Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. [1:43:59, 1:44:08]: You're welcome. Enterprise funds. Did you capture those? The enterprise funds were captured. [1:44:12, 1:44:15]: On this slide, um I did it to deep the in the process. [1:44:16, 1:44:17]: Oh, so include it in the general. [1:44:18, 1:44:34]: The I the Enterprise Funds are booking out. I did not go into the Enterprise Funds, adventure revenues, uh focus on general fund. Yes, I can um make sure to get all of the reports so they're changing. [1:44:35, 1:44:37]: On the courts, um specifically. [1:44:37, 1:44:42]: No sir. I do have some questions, but I'm I'm not going to prolong. [1:44:45, 1:44:45]: Yeah. [1:44:47, 1:44:57]: All right, well Eagle, you had a question. Yeah, for all salary and wages, we but not we have some precision opposition. How for the public, I see numbers, I just want you to copy with that so they can contain where we are. [1:44:59, 1:45:19]: You mean salaries overall? Yes. Okay. The budget amount of salary was nine point four million. We spent three point eight million. So we are still under budget. We do have a lot of um positions that are looking to fill. Absolutely. Now so we have way past the what from the year and we have nine dollars budget. And we've only spent what? Three and eight. Three from eight. So obviously we should have been at four. [1:45:19, 1:45:39]: point five factory at the end at the end to be on track. So we especially under um spent in that area, which is so that we need to make sure that we are fully staffed and that we have the people in position to to execute out of them. But the number rather tells you that we're trending in the right direction and we're not we're not um wasting money on um our out on [1:45:38, 1:45:44]: Certainly we want to ensure we're taking care and we have competitive wages. Thank you. Yes, sir. [1:45:44, 1:45:59]: I like this great presentation. This is just an update, no no need to put on it, put obvious marching orders and you took notes on Mr. Gardner took some notes on things with me. So appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Uh consideration of vacancies on the public facility authority board and appoint members to a four-year term. Mr. Washington. [1:46:00, 1:46:02]: Is he to do this? All right. [1:46:15, 1:46:25]: The second one is Samantha Senior. And third one that you should have a notebook is Mark Lane. [1:46:28, 1:46:48]: Fine with me because Samantha Samuel is a real well. She was already she resigned from the citywide development authority and wants to come on a PF PF. Okay, so she's just transitioning. Okay, certainly. Okay, any c if no is invalid, I need them to accept some is there a second? Please indicate. She now [1:46:48, 1:46:52]: Ms. Barber first, I saw it first. Very [1:46:53, 1:47:13]: That gets exciting sometimes. All right, good. IQ missed. All right. So what we have next, events. Um council meetings will be held. Contact the offices seven seven zero three and nine seven hundred on the websites at Wstarbridge.org for updates. The start resistance first third of each month, six p.m. [1:47:13, 1:47:33]: And Stockbridge Police Room 4545 North Henry Boulevard is August 1st. And by the way, just last week, these uh our Stockbridge Police uh Brift Council were put departments up for an war and they had lunch last week in Vanna with the Georgia Police Officers Association. And Stockbridge once we finally did not win, but we in a sense was uh got by for second, I should say. [1:47:33, 1:47:53]: A plaque or an award and a award and a slow award and uh police headquarters somewhere there. And five hundred dollars uh that would go to the uh committee to do some of the work. So gradually and his committee for a great job, and they look forward to them uh maybe taking a number one position in our years here. Uh the main street board meeting was on the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. [1:47:53, 1:48:13]: M.D. one three ML K ML King Senior Heritage Trail of Snight. City coming second Monday PM City Hall Cal Chambers of twelve. You call meeting the second Monday beach month, six thirty PM in the City Holy Bye meeting room. Uh okay says no ugly sorry. All right. Side uh each month, six PM, meeting room, city. [1:48:13, 1:48:33]: Meeting room August me August. Like now Planning Commission meeting second set Planning Commission meeting third Tuesday of each month. City Hall same August 15th. The downtown third meeting third uh Tuesday of each month. Strawberry's downtown one thirty ML King Senior Heritage Trail August 20th. Did you cancel advisory committee meeting 6:30 p.m. uh third Tuesday of each month and by meeting? [1:48:33, 1:48:53]: Room at City Hall August 20th. Of course, the City Hall Council zone at all fifty seventh. The community zoning information meetings Thursday, August seventh, six p.m. and seven p.m. in the city hall council chamber, September. Upcoming city events and initiatives join us at the committee park for one one one Davis Robert Font Woods. [1:48:53, 1:49:13]: [6553.0, 6573.0]: This is actually a sorry this isn't Stockbridge, folks. I gotta say that you never tell I gotta say each time golly. Start the farm post zone two plus C four on Monday, August twelfth from six PM, seven thirty PM location stopbridge United Middle Church at forty eight North Himbard. It's right down here uh from Se Hall. [1:49:32, 1:49:52]: Thomas for the monthly senior bingo bash on Wednesday fifteenth from ten AM to twelve the Mercury Center. One one Aver's roof for Raffles Prize Games and a lot of fun. Join Castlewoman Lucisi and Partnership with Atlanta Food Truck Park for the night market at Stockbridge Empathy Park Lot six PM to nine, thirty PM august fifteenth. There will be events collectives, games, music and vibes, content, tan powers at Tan and Alan. [1:49:52, 1:50:12]: Lanfort Park.com for restriction additional information. Join Council Thomas for the second district sidewalk town hall on Thursday, August 15th from 6:30 p.m. to eight o'clock, Florida Chapel Baptist Church, Family Life Center, okay, 104 First Street in Right Harbor, of course. Join me, Mayor Ford, and for the monthly meeting Mayor on the August 26th from 10 a.m. to noon. [1:50:12, 1:50:32]: Stoppage City Hall. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Try Stoppers Initiatives Centered Round Education, Highlight Health Effects, Literary Copy. And uh once again joined to salute all your long and considerations with the main France right in your service in contact with our schedule point we need to make for information, officials and events. Call Rosalind at 678-334-200. [1:50:32, 1:50:52]: or by way of email raws.org. The 2024 Stockbridge Summer Concert Summer Series continues on this August 3rd. We'll have been faced with special guest star every forecast. August 17th, featuring and AR Baxton and Miss Peter here and Pitami do the DJ in honor to divine nine top. [1:50:52, 1:51:12]: First word is mine nine. Alpha Sword Corporate, Delta 63, Sword and Corporate, Sing again, Sword Corporate, and Z5. So man from the fraternities come on and bring uh bring your colors also and have a good time with party concert there. And Saturday 2022 to 2024, Cole James with Obern tour with special guest Damian Escobar. Just concert now, [1:51:12, 1:51:32]: For our twenty twenty series that is Awkward 26. Now mind you, uh three weeks ago, I guess now most three weeks, two and a half weeks now. Charlie Wilson. Rob Thick. Well, Rob Thick was able to perform, but Charlie Wilson was not due to a storm that we had. [1:51:32, 1:51:52]: with Elder Barch. So it's on StarBridge NP.com. Matter of fact, anybody has their land, anybody has tickets for that concert for the first concert where Robin Charlie Wilson will utilize that ticket and be honored to come back and see this concert here with Charlie Wilson and Elder Barge. So I look forward to that myself. And it's also on the StarBridn P dot com website would be a a [1:51:52, 1:52:12]: A concert that Chris Sucker, actor and Pinning Chris Sucker Fans, is actually having a concert here at Dampath on August 24th. And this is in reference to the the benefits of the Christmas Foundation and live music and comedy. So this uh should uh this website to be for dictators well, and uh that should be a blast. I'm pretty sure it'd be a wonderful concert, wonderful evening and I as well. Um let's see here and so [1:52:12, 1:52:32]: say the date for the break test which is uh uh september twenty eighth to twenty fourth and uh supposed an annual community on that day. We have a live food trucks, vendors, and uh get ready for Starbucks Amber Theater uh for our final concert of year. Any additional uh information any contact B Bradley Starberg G R G possible for any interested vendors uh that you want to particularly [1:52:32, 1:52:52]: A couple of uh announcements I have to make here and one of them actually deals with uh the council where the fact that we discussed and uh six and what we want spot six six that's gonna be on the ballot for buddy to uh approve on November fifth this year. What we wanted was a six year uh splots, uh sixty eight percent of that's going to count and thirty two percent going to cities, used the twenty twenty census. [1:52:52, 1:53:12]: Yeah it was a tough one handle we could do a ten no level one and level two project uh that we in a sense agreed to uh we internally the county agreed that but today just today the county has uh uh unanimous that for six it will be a six year splots. It will be sixty eight thirty two percent split between the county cities getting thirty two percent. Um this is the people. [1:53:12, 1:53:32]: April first of twenty twenty-five to March 31st of 2031. And the day they will utilize an O level two projects. They accounts in a level two project, but then use up to use up$100 million for any type of bonding of projects if they just choose to do that. And we cities are unable to bond for any projects at all. And um I believe that's it. [1:53:32, 1:53:43]: to that uh passage. Now often suppose four hundred and seven million dollars over that f six year period and we say stop rates to twelve point three one percent, we'll get roughly estimated fifty seven million eight hundred thirty nine dollars. [1:53:45, 1:53:45]: All right. [1:53:46, 1:54:06]: So hopefully I don't know where that's what they agree earlier today. And uh the IJ has not been signed, and I'd gonna have to be readjusted because what we see today on the government's uh uh agreement was today was not uh was not the encompassing way approved earlier uh later on today. And our attorneys uh watch his work on that, so I've yet to sign the thing thus far. [1:54:06, 1:54:26]: And I know that has to happen sometime soon. So what's your question? Never mind, don't worry. Okay, all right. Uh no, Nano. Um what I wanted to do, um, as you all know, right now. And I know I've been I've been attending as much as possible on Olympics, chat teams, the swimming events, everything's going on, the evening, the diving, polo, the metamastics really got down, but it knows it's happening. [1:54:26, 1:54:38]: ladies and gentlemen of our ladies have become got gold and if understand reddy's got gold they got number one some mobiles got a gold and some mobiles I understand red is now in history the greatest gymnast in the history of the greatest gym [1:54:38, 1:54:58]: All right. Outstanding. Outstanding. I tell you what, that isn't fantastic. And what else wanna mention to you I have here on Flip City South Flipsity South is right here in our earth and tumbling and trampling and and they attended uh four different uh national events. Flipsity south at least a junior elite security and press a third place fish to Cam Cab. Uh Mr. Merkin, a uh intermediate elite uh athlete demonstrated his talent and landed eight place and [1:54:58, 1:55:18]: And uh senior league athlete probably medals. Now, this all occurred. These outstanding performances occurred, but didn't split you say gymnasts because they hold the three preseason competitions. One class is a homestead, two classes are Irving, Texas, and US Gym Champs in Minneapolis. And uh the top eight minus scores from events is a national team, and all three flips south athletes made that cut. These are teams are fantastic. [1:55:18, 1:55:38]: So we have on our right in our back folks, you got 30 south and you got individuals that are doing weight at the at the amateur level. These are probably eventual aliens on the next go round. Right here coming on up. So I've stem. On that note, that's all my announcements. And uh on that note, I'll see you emotional in our meeting. Mr. Barron is a second. [1:55:38, 1:55:43]: Miss um uh Miss Catherine. So now now season, God bless y'all, good night. [1:55:45, 1:55:45]: Oh. [1:56:02, 1:56:04]: I recognize
  • 2024-07-22 · City Council · Transcript · Special Called Meeting Public Hearing 3 Setting the Millage Rate

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    --- title: Special Called Meeting Public Hearing 3 Setting the Millage Rate date: 2024-07-22 source: 2024-07-22_Special_Called_Meeting_Public_Hearing_3_Setting_the_Millage_Rate.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:20]: Father, we thank you this morning for again waking us up and giving us a fresh start with new grace and new mercy. We pray for this meeting and the proceedings today. We pray that everyone's voices will be heard. We pray, Lord God, for an expedient process that, Lord God, all your good deeds and all your good grace will fall on the citizens of Stockbridge. This we ask in this name of your son, Jesus. [0:00:20, 0:00:35]: In Jesus Christ's name we pray. Amen. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, honored God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:00:36, 0:00:38]: Madam Clerk Roll Call, please. [0:00:43, 0:00:44]: Morning. [0:00:45, 0:00:48]: Present. Mayor Pro Temberry. Present. Council Member Out. [0:00:50, 0:00:53]: Council Member Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. [0:00:54, 0:00:58]: That the record replaced, Councilwoman McGantt is not in attendance. [0:00:58, 0:01:05]: Council Member Tom. Present. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:01:05, 0:01:25]: So for Mr. Alzheimer's, is there a second? Ms. Barber, second then. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. All righty. So ladies and gentlemen, we'll go through the uh public hearing. Notice rate presented by Mr. Gardner. But before Mr. Gardner gets started, let me read the public hearing rules. Please mute, mute, excuse me, all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak to [0:01:25, 0:01:31]: tonight on public hearing item please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. [0:01:32, 0:01:52]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and a representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with or any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. [0:01:52, 0:02:12]: So each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended at the discretion of the council. Please keep comments and presentation professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer, [0:02:11, 0:02:19]: Officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to the members of the council, staff, or audience. [0:02:20, 0:02:40]: All comments will be made from the podium where you are required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Fair to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and a building by law enforcement if you do if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may receive. [0:02:40, 0:03:00]: Part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire 10 minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and/or concerns. The bright the providing officer, uh, presiding officer will call for a motion. [0:02:59, 0:03:12]: Motion and the second through the motion will have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial the request. Thank you very much. And Mr. Gardner, sir, saw news, sir. [0:03:22, 0:03:42]: Good morning, Mayor. Morning. Good morning, Council. And good morning, residents. Um, Mark Shaw, can everybody hear me well today? All right. We had to add a little box to the mic. Speaker to the mic. Yeah, to get it closer for everyone to be able to hear us, but thank you. Um today uh is our third public and last public hearing related to [0:03:42, 0:03:51]: To the adoption of our millage rate, which uh sets the rate for our general fund operations for the city of Stockbridge for the year 2025. [0:03:53, 0:03:58]: Um, as we spoke about in the previous two meetings, uh Stockbridge is a growing city, a fast growing city. [0:03:59, 0:04:02]: And as we know, we continue to grow as a city and developed. [0:04:03, 0:04:06]: Um I give some brief history about the growth of the city. [0:04:06, 0:04:18]: Well, in nineteen ninety the city had just over three thousand residents and now we're topping close to forty thousand residents as a city, headed in that direction, with all the growth and development that has occurred. [0:04:18, 0:04:21]: Um that growth and development obviously. [0:04:21, 0:04:30]: uh puts impacts on our public works because as the city keeps growing and spreading we add more roads, more sidewalks, more right away to maintain and operate. [0:04:30, 0:04:35]: as well as our new police service uh have to keep up with the growing demands of the po growing population. [0:04:36, 0:04:43]: Um we'll talk a little bit about um what we preliminaries see in our F Y twenty five budget and then the proposed mill is ready. [0:04:45, 0:05:05]: So the the Millage rate uh is driven specifically by uh tax digest and that's all accumulative properties within the city of Stockbridge as a whole. Uh and between twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four our digest grew by four point four percent or went from one point eight six to one point nine four billion dollars. [0:05:05, 0:05:07]: Total digest. Right. [0:05:08, 0:05:11]: We're doing accurate village rate staying at se three point seven seven. [0:05:12, 0:05:20]: Even with that growth the miller's rate staying the same, the growth in the digest precipitates the debt considered a three point four four growth rate. [0:05:20, 0:05:39]: As required. Uh we advertised three public hearings for the meet for the millage rate. And this is our third meeting. Um the sta the city did advertise four point two five as a placeholder. However, the recommended millage rate, as you know from our first meeting by staff is three point seven seven, pretty much giving it the same. [0:05:42, 0:06:00]: And I know this is not clear and I'm gonna try to get it better, but the way the formula comes out, it doesn't bring but that just shows the digest and the growth in the digest over the last five years. So in twenty nineteen we were just under a billion dollars. In twenty twenty the city topped a billion dollars. Um and then moving forward with the annexation. [0:06:00, 0:06:02]: Um we grew. [0:06:02, 0:06:04]: Pretty much from one billion dollars. [0:06:04, 0:06:09]: From one point three to one point eight billion dollars. And now one point nine. [0:06:12, 0:06:23]: So what does that middle rate mean as it relates to housings within the city for a certain s uh specific price? Um in this chart we showed that a house at one hundred and fifty assessed value is sixty. [0:06:24, 0:06:28]: Uh on the rollback millage rate that we estimated was three point six one. [0:06:29, 0:06:31]: That would meet a house would be [0:06:31, 0:06:33]: Um two hundred and sixteen dollars. [0:06:33, 0:06:45]: With the three point seven seven keeping it the same, that same house will pay two hundred and twenty six dollars or nine dollars and fifty cents, fifty eight cents a year difference, or eighty cents a month. [0:06:45, 0:07:01]: difference. A house which in the median for the city of Stockbridge is right around two eighty five to three hundred. So house at three s two seventy-five assessed value would be a hundred and ten. Rollback would have it at three ninety seven. [0:07:02, 0:07:05]: The present military keeping it the same at three fourteen. [0:07:06, 0:07:12]: That would be a seventeen fift seventeen dollars and fifty six cents increase or one dollar and forty six per month. [0:07:12, 0:07:13]: Um difference. [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: And so [0:07:17, 0:07:18]: Based on that. Um [0:07:19, 0:07:36]: You can see where other cities and I know ever all the other cities and counties are looking at their millage rate as ta as well. Um I know Henry County's proposing to increase um as well as McDonough, I mean of Hampton. And I think Locus Grove is imposing their property tax this year as well. But as of now they're [0:07:36, 0:07:40]: Um three mils, four point five mils, and twelve point seven mils, respectively. [0:07:43, 0:08:00]: So that typical house, what does it look like? And we use the tax map and Google Street map to find houses within those categories. So as I said, that house at 150 appraise. Assessed value would be sixty. At the current area three point seven seven, it'd be two twenty six. [0:08:00, 0:08:02]: And that's about eighteen dollars a month. [0:08:03, 0:08:12]: And a house two valued at two hundred and thirty-four pays ninety-three thousand. Assessed value, three hundred and fifty-four a year or right around twenty-nine a month. [0:08:14, 0:08:34]: two eighty one assessed value is one hundred and twelve six. Um current current millers rate, they pay four hundred and twenty-four, made the correction, and that's thirty-five a month, and the house value to three hundred and eighty one, um assessed value to one hundred and fifty two thousand um five hundred and [0:08:34, 0:08:37]: Seventy four or forty seven dollars a month. [0:08:40, 0:09:00]: Um staff work to kinda come up with our proposed budget for twenty twenty twenty five meeting with the department heads came out with about twenty nine point three um million and you see where we balance at the three point seven seven gives us a equal balance budget and that was the recommendation of staff for revenues projected preliminary j projected [0:08:59, 0:09:01]: revenues and expenses. [0:09:05, 0:09:15]: When we talk about the taxing entities in Henry County, so you have four taxing entities in the county. You have the water authority to tax every citizen. Um [0:09:16, 0:09:25]: A two mil tax, um the proposed tax at three point seven seven for this for the city of Starkbridge, Henry County. [0:09:25, 0:09:45]: Without their if you take out some of the fire tax and those would be around ten point ten point five and the school board um at twenty three point six. And so that represents about sixty percent of a dollar. Sixty cents on every dollar goes to your school board, about twenty-six cents of every dollar goes to the county, eleven cents would be a dollar. [0:09:45, 0:09:48]: would come to the city and five cents would go to the water authority. [0:09:54, 0:10:02]: Next step, this is the the fi the last and final meeting for the adoption of the millage rate. Staff does recommend a 3.77 millage. [0:10:03, 0:10:23]: The miller's rate um will be applied to all properties this year um for the October, December time frame. And for those folks that own their homes, they tend to pay as they go in some cases. Um but there will be a ballot initiative on the November fifth ballot, um which allows for homestead exemptions for all Stockbridge homeowners. [0:10:22, 0:10:42]: And that's a separate process from Henry County. Every resident would have to apply here for the exemptions once it's passed. If it's passed, which we think it will, um, there hasn't been one that's failed in the state of Georgia to date. Um and so that allowed for you, for seniors as well as regular homeowners, as well as those folks who are on septic to [0:10:42, 0:10:50]: be able to apply for a role by I mean to apply for homestead exemption and that application process will happen here at City Hall. [0:10:52, 0:11:12]: Thank you, Mr. Gardner. I appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, if you don't mind, we actually have the uh Henry County Tax Commissioner with us, Mr. Michael Harris. So, Mr. Harris, if you don't mind if you come to the podium and add anything else that you liked uh today for the citizens that are present, and then uh we'll open it up to the council and then eventually to the citizens to ask any questions. Go ahead, please. Thanks, Mr. Thank you, Mayor. Good morning. [0:11:12, 0:11:18]: Morning, Council members. Um, just all I would add is um just the process going forward at this point. [0:11:19, 0:11:35]: Um so where we are now, if the city of Stockbridge adopts their millage, we're still waiting. The Board of Education is scheduled to adopt theirs later t later today, about four thirty. Um City of McDonough begins their hearings this afternoon as well. [0:11:35, 0:11:52]: and the Board of Commissioners is scheduled to have their adoption on the 30th of this month. Once all the entities, tax and agencies have been have completed their setting their millage, then we'll complete the digest and we'll submit that information to the state for review. [0:11:53, 0:11:54]: And approval [0:11:54, 0:12:03]: State will have a few days to go through their review process. Um once they finish their review, they'll issue a authorization letter, which gives us authorization to begin the process of collecting taxes. [0:12:04, 0:12:08]: Um from there we begin the process of going in crafting and and and and creating the bills. [0:12:08, 0:12:12]: That's usually about a two week process working back and forth with our with our printer. [0:12:12, 0:12:23]: So usually we anticipate bills going out no later than the last week in of August. So everyone should certainly see their tax bill come in the mail by no later than that first of September. [0:12:24, 0:12:33]: Um, if anyone does not, I encourage anyone if they haven't if we get to the first week in September and you haven't seen your bill come in the mail. We know there's been some challenges with our postal service lately. [0:12:33, 0:12:41]: Um, I certainly encourage them to visit our website at henrycountytax.com. They can simply enter their address and they can pull up the bill on our website. [0:12:42, 0:12:47]: Um so that's always or they can always contact our office directly. But um certainly by the first week of September everyone should see their bill. [0:12:48, 0:12:52]: Okay, thank you, sir. Council, any questions for either one of these gentlemen? Mr. Alzheimer's? [0:12:52, 0:13:12]: Yeah, so thank you again, Mr. Harris, uh, for coming to make the excellent presentation. There are a few citizens who weren't here at the at the initial meeting. So certainly I'd like for you to kind of do what we did last time, which is kind of recap some of these instances, such as uh talk about the frozen. [0:13:12, 0:13:32]: an exemption and then also if you would talk about the uh collections uh based uh on the the school board perhaps is they're doing they're setting their millage rate today I believe that's correct uh as well so let's talk about that yeah just so briefly the um counsel mentioned the [0:13:32, 0:13:35]: frozen provision that that currently exists here in Henry County. [0:13:36, 0:13:56]: Um Henry County is one of a few jurisdictions that offer a frozen provision. Um slightly different than the floating provision. A frozen provision, what that does is on in the year that you submit your application for a homestead and are approved for that homestead, it establishes your base year. So your base year value. [0:13:56, 0:14:00]: Would be based on the year you the previous year from the year you filed for your homestead. [0:14:01, 0:14:06]: Case in point, if you file for homestead this year and were approved, your base year would be last year's [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: property valuation. [0:14:08, 0:14:14]: What that does is in simplest terms, if you purchase your home and applied for homestead in t year two thousand and ten. [0:14:15, 0:14:17]: And your home was valued at two hundred thousand dollars. [0:14:18, 0:14:38]: The county tax portion would remain frozen at that two hundred thousand dollar value. So even though your value may have increased up to three hundred thousand dollars, you are still only taxed on the county side at that two hundred thousand dollar level. So you can see the the the tremendous impact that has from a from a taxpayer standpoint, only being taxed at that [0:14:38, 0:14:55]: At that much lower level. Um, so it's it's a tremendous benefit. I think the county has estimated the benefit to the residents equates to somewhere between 45 to 50 million dollars, obviously spread out amongst the entire two hundred and fifty um [0:14:55, 0:14:57]: thousand population we have here in the county. [0:14:57, 0:14:59]: Um so again it's it's a tremendous benefit. [0:14:59, 0:15:05]: Secondary to that is the school board, while they are not part of the frozen provision, they do offer a tiered [0:15:06, 0:15:14]: Um exemption beginning at age 62. Beginning at age 62, you can get a reduction of twenty thousand dollars off of your assessed value at age sixty five. [0:15:15, 0:15:27]: that reduction of your detectable value is eighty thousand, age sixty eight it's a hundred and twenty thousand. And at age seventy you no longer have to pay any school taxes. So what that simply means based on the formula that Mr. Garden prevented earlier. [0:15:27, 0:15:29]: That assessed value [0:15:29, 0:15:40]: which is your taxable value, would be reduced by those amounts. So if you have a taxable value of of assessed value of$120,000, if you add that exemption for your basic L one, [0:15:40, 0:15:52]: at age sixty two, it would reduce that taxable amount down to a hundred thousand. So you're only taxed on a hundred thousand dollars. Um and again, and that increase is um incrementally at age sixty five and eight sixty eight. [0:15:52, 0:15:53]: Um [0:15:53, 0:15:56]: That is even though you may have your homestead already in place. [0:15:56, 0:16:13]: You do need to go back and reapply at age sixty-two. When you're age sixty-two on January first, you must come back and reapply for that age exemption. Once you apply at age sixty-two, it carries on for all the subsequent other ages. Um and you also mentioned something else you wanted me to [0:16:14, 0:16:15]: Speak of. [0:16:15, 0:16:35]: Sorry, you you mentioned it, excuse me. You had mentioned the date for the uh school board. The county is going to also be uh setting their millage rate. Uh as Mr. Gardner, you said the the school board sets their rate. They 60% of your money goes to the school board, 26% goes to the county. They will be setting their rate. [0:16:35, 0:16:38]: This sh this month on the thirtieth, I believe. [0:16:38, 0:16:58]: The county will be sending their time thirtieth. The Board of Education will have their final adoption hearing today at I believe four four o'clock or four thirty. Absolutely. And what I say to the residents who are here, I've seen the same face as a lot of them here at this meeting for three meetings. Our millage rate from the very first meeting, we've told you that pretty [0:16:58, 0:17:18]: Pretty much we're gonna leave the rip the millage rate as is. So, but you've been to this meeting. How many of y'all are going to the meeting this afternoon at the school board where that rate is being discussed? Now they're d certainly gonna do uh a a proposed reduction on the bonding side. That's great. But the base millage rate has been set at the highest. [0:17:18, 0:17:38]: Percentage allowed at 20 meals for some time now. And that rate has not been reduced at all. So certainly when I look at my tax bill, my tax bill constitutes$5,5200. I thirty four hundred dollars of that goes to the school system. [0:17:38, 0:17:58]: And then about 1,100 goes to the county, and then the rest uh comes to the city. So I certainly would like to see that representation and to see hopefully many of you will be at that meeting this afternoon where the majority of your money is going so you can express those particular sentiments. [0:17:58, 0:18:18]: To the school board. Now, however, as you indicated at our last meeting, Henry County has not, theirs is till later this month when they will do that. Correct. But the proposed budget that they have passed, if it does pass, would dictate that there would need to be a millage. [0:18:18, 0:18:22]: rate increase in order to pay for that budget. Is that correct? [0:18:23, 0:18:43]: Yeah, I believe right now what they're currently proposing is an increase. It's it's it's an it's a decrease to the general fund portion of their of their millage. Um however they are taking some of that general fund reduction and moving it into the um police SSD, fire SD. [0:18:43, 0:18:57]: SSD um into those categories, so it's gonna be an increase on the police and fire um special service districts. So that would there would be a net increase and that net increase is quite significant from what I've seen in the numbers, is that correct? [0:18:57, 0:19:17]: Yeah, so it the way it works out, it would be, I think it's being proposed, it'd be uh about a three mil net increase. However, for residents of Stockbridge, because they're making a reduction of the general fund millage, I think if Stockbridge does opt to um maintain the 3.7 [0:19:17, 0:19:18]: seven millage rate. [0:19:20, 0:19:22]: The school bond reduction [0:19:22, 0:19:25]: Фром три по сі сто е та ту милс. [0:19:26, 0:19:29]: In addition to the general fund reduction by the county [0:19:29, 0:19:32]: Of eight point zero five five down to seven point zero four two. [0:19:33, 0:19:39]: citizens of Stockbridge could actually see about a point five reduction in their overall millage rate. Right. [0:19:39, 0:19:59]: Well see, and and excellent, and that's why I need uh folks to understand who are paying who are here at this particular meeting and know that again, I think in the previous scenario we had discussed is that we started our own police department at 3.77 mils. I mean uh i I mean police [0:19:59, 0:20:12]: department and overall city budget at 3.77 mils. The increase, I think you said, was uh in the neighborhood of four total overall would be like four meals. [0:20:12, 0:20:32]: Well, just for the police would be going up uh I think from two point nine something last year, the new mills about four point seven, just for the police portion that's being proposed. Right. And the city residents, since we have our own police department, that was passed along as special service districts. But since we have our own police department, special service districts. [0:20:32, 0:20:50]: districts um don't don't hit us the same. That's correct. So you would not be you would not that special service district for police would not be felt here for city residents. For fire, obviously it would be because county pla um takes care of the fire services here in the city. [0:20:51, 0:21:11]: Absolutely, but what is the understanding that I think residents need to understand, especially red residents who were annexed into the city, should that scenario play itself out and that full millage, three mills is increased, then net let's start in the police department with eighty [0:21:11, 0:21:31]: 80 plus personnel is actually going to end up in a savings for you because if you wasn't annexed into the city and you had to pay that special service district based on the proposed, and I say proposed increase rate, you would have been paying more had you not annexed into the city of Stockbridge. That is a fact. [0:21:31, 0:21:51]: Act should this pass. Now, they could go back and reduce the budget and not require that three mil increase, but that didn't seem to be the indication that they were headed in. But that's why it's so important for you not just to be in this meeting, but to be in that meeting this afternoon for the school board and to be at that county meeting. [0:21:51, 0:22:04]: I said, well now you here in this meeting and we're gonna leave our millage rate proposed unchanged. They're proposing a potential proposing three mil increase on the public safety side. And certainly [0:22:04, 0:22:24]: We're in support of public safety because when your house is on fire, you want somebody to go and respond. And some of that increases for public safety to for new fires, fire stations, and increase public safety. So that is extremely important to what we're doing here. Now, thank you, Mr. Harris. Mr. Gardner, as far as [0:22:24, 0:22:26]: far as the other side is concerned. [0:22:26, 0:22:30]: See, I was walking in and I was speaking to a resident. [0:22:30, 0:22:50]: And we were talking about the exemptions. See, this is why it's so important to understand the source of any information that you're given. The source of the information is extremely important because is that information that you were given accurate? Now there was a contention made that the city didn't. [0:22:50, 0:23:10]: Did not send out the information on the millage rate or the opportunity for them to have an exemption. Right, that was correct. But the reason that that was is because we needed legislation to pass the homeowner's exemption. It will be on the ballot. [0:23:09, 0:23:10]: This year. [0:23:11, 0:23:31]: in November for you to vote for you to have a homestead exemption. But this council was so pre so understanding that and the information presented to us so well, we set the millage rate at 3.77, which in effect gave everybody the exemptions up front, but we needed [0:23:31, 0:23:51]: The money to secure the budget and the funded. So even without applying for the exemption, because we didn't have it and we couldn't allow it, we set the rate low enough that it included uh it included a reduction that would be equal to or or on so on par with if. [0:23:50, 0:24:00]: if you had applied for the exemption. And Mr. Gardner, you talk about that process behind the exemption and why it will be going on the ballot this year. [0:24:01, 0:24:21]: Uh yes, sir. So um when council adopted the millage rate um back in in the fall of of twenty twenty three, there was discussions regarding the potential for homestead exemptions. Uh and what the council did was move forward with a resolution um to be [0:24:21, 0:24:41]: Forwarded to our local delegation requesting that a millage rate be, I mean a exemption, homestead exemption, be placed on City of Stockbridge taxes. That resolution started legislation that went through the Georgia House and Georgia Senate. [0:24:41, 0:24:57]: Senate was approved and signed by the governor. That exemption includes the overall L one for all homeowners, um, L two for those sixty-five and above elderly, as well as um exemptions for those homeowners on septic tanks. [0:24:58, 0:25:10]: And uh Mr. Aaron, I don't see him here today. There was some questions about the s he's here. Okay, Mr. Aaron, you c okay I didn't see you over there. You stuck Okay, come on up back to the podium if we would. [0:25:11, 0:25:31]: Uh and so yes. So um on as I mentioned in the presentation, um on the November fifth ballot, you will have there'll be a number of exemptions, but there will be one exemption for Stockbridge residents to vote in a homestead exemption on the November ballot. And if so, we will be ready to go applications. [0:25:31, 0:25:43]: already been placed put together. We're trying to put a online portal in place so folks can have it come in, sign it in and then submit their submitting documents you're working there, but the paper documents we've already designed and ready to go as soon as it's approved. [0:25:43, 0:26:03]: Thank you. Then Mr. Aaron, Mr. Aaron is our public works director here in the city. We implemented a sanitation program that was very comprehensive with trash recycling and free bulk pickup and lawn and uh yard debris several years ago. Now that rate is a consumer who [0:26:03, 0:26:09]: who sought that out in the city or outside the city, the rate that we get, they wouldn't be able to get it with them. [0:26:10, 0:26:24]: No, sir, not with the with all the services that city residents receive. Most of the private vendors only provide sanitation service and that's it. They do not provide bulk recycling or yard waste pickup. [0:26:25, 0:26:44]: Absolutely. And that that is placed on the city prop city um uh bill that's passed out through the tax commissioner, but it's not a tax, is it, Mr. Gardner? It is a fee. It is for service that is rendered by the city that is inclusive of trash recycling, bulk pickup, and log yard waste. [0:26:44, 0:27:04]: Yes, sir. It it most jurisdictions have gone from um putting fees directly for folks to pay onto the property tax because it's easier um and it captures most properties in the cities. Um so Stockwoods is not unlike other cities around it actually allow the legislation allowed for us to put um our fees on our property taxes. [0:27:04, 0:27:07]: And so that's why and that happened [0:27:07, 0:27:12]: Think Mr. Alfonso, I think it was back in nine in two thousand and six or two thousand and seven. [0:27:12, 0:27:20]: Um when they implemented it as part of the property tax bill versus everyone coming to City Hall and paying the trash bills. [0:27:20, 0:27:40]: Absolutely. And and final question for Mr. Aaron. As a part of that program, we offer free bulk pickup for items like mattresses and that thing, large items uh like that. That they can have three items a week picked up. That service is absolutely free, so they don't have to call anybody uh if they have [0:27:40, 0:27:57]: these to suppose these items is a part of the service that is included, correct? Yes, there is part of the service. The only thing they ask is that you notify them a day in advance of your day of collection to schedule that pickup. And you can put out up to three items every week if you so choose. [0:27:57, 0:27:59]: Absolutely. Thank you so much. [0:28:00, 0:28:20]: Any other questions from the council for um uh the staff or Mr. Harris uh before I open up for a public hearing for the rest of the citizens? Mayor. You go right ahead, please. I just want to apologize. I've been in court this morning. I had a hearing, so sorry I'm late. Okay, no problem. Appreciate it. Welcome. Thanks. Okay. Any questions down in the center? Gentlemen, are you good? [0:28:21, 0:28:36]: All right. On that note then, ladies and gentlemen, we'll open up for a public hearing for you all to uh express any opinions one way or the other. So let's start with uh the recommendation is three point seven seven for the millers to keep it the same. So anybody is four, uh keep it the same. Four three point seven seven [0:28:36, 0:28:38]: On my far left. [0:28:38, 0:28:41]: Yeah, okay, my far left. If you wanna speak, I'll need you to line up on the left hand side. [0:28:42, 0:28:43]: Anybody in the middle? Four. [0:28:44, 0:28:46]: Anybody in the middle four lane before you line up. [0:28:47, 0:28:56]: Oh in the in the middle, line up on the line up on the left side over here, please, on the left side. My left side. Anybody in in uh far right? Anybody wants to speak four? All right. [0:28:57, 0:29:04]: Right now for s this is four, uh recommendation three point seven seven. Please come to uh to the mic and give your name and address, please. [0:29:07, 0:29:14]: Uh, good morning. My name is uh Jocelyn Williams, one ninety Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, three oh two, uh one [0:29:15, 0:29:35]: I want to thank the council of the wonderful way we're able to speak and hear and can see the presentation. So I can't thank you enough. Uh I appreciate uh everyone even from Henry County um coming to let us know what everything will be. Three seven seven will help me and my family to go ahead and put [0:29:35, 0:29:43]: Process everything and put our money aside. Just wanted to thank the council for this wonderful presentation. Thank you. Thank you. Sir, please. [0:29:44, 0:29:45]: Name and address. [0:29:48, 0:30:06]: Richard Cook, three twelve Grove Hill uh Drive Stockbridge. Thank you, sir. Um I had a whole lot of notes here for why we had to pay four hundred dollars more in taxes last year. Uh [0:30:07, 0:30:27]: When we I was not in the city at first, I was one that was annexed in and at that meeting it was kinda implied that they were not gonna go up on our taxes and if it was it was very little. But the very first year mine went up to four hundred went up four hundred dollars more. [0:30:27, 0:30:47]: Uh so I was very disappointed with that. Uh and then uh and now we're trying to do another tax, which from what I'm getting from this meeting is that we've backed off on that tax, so the tax will stay the same as uh [0:30:47, 0:30:52]: uh three point seven and and understand a lot of the stuff you guys talk about. [0:30:54, 0:31:00]: I don't necessarily understand. It's it's a little bit over my head. Uh but [0:31:01, 0:31:05]: I can pick out enough to know that it's harming me and as a senior citizen [0:31:07, 0:31:12]: is is tough'cause you're on a fixed income and [0:31:13, 0:31:33]: it makes it difficult to come up with extra money to pay things like that. Uh but I did I do see now where you're doing the homestead exemption that should take care of a lot of that. Um so for what you've said today it's been encouraging. [0:31:33, 0:31:41]: And I'm glad I came back today. I couldn't sleep last night thinking about having to come up here because. [0:31:42, 0:32:02]: I don't know, I just I'm not one of the best to get in front of people and talk. But another the the main reason I came the first time was the notification of the the possibility of a tax increase. And I say that because [0:32:02, 0:32:22]: A neighbor of mine got a letter. She calls me, did you hear about the tax increase? I said, No. So she sends me the letter. So most everybody I talked to knew nothing about this proposed tax increase. So I [0:32:22, 0:32:42]: I took the letter and I drove through my neighborhood and put it in every box because nobody knew about it. And I understand you're you have to post it in like what is it, the Herald Junior or something, or your website. [0:32:42, 0:33:00]: Well don't go out and buy the Herald or I don't even know if you have to buy it. So why couldn't something be sent to us as a resident and so that we can know about these things? And I mean, when we annexed into the city [0:33:03, 0:33:23]: There was pamphlets everywhere in the mail and coming to our house. So there was no hesitation about trying to get us notified. But this tax is just as important as that. And I just feel like something should be sent to the residents so that they are aware. [0:33:23, 0:33:27]: aware of the problem or aware of what's going on. [0:33:28, 0:33:33]: Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it. Come on, sir. Name and address, please. [0:33:36, 0:33:45]: Good morning. Name is Juan Martin. I'm at 624 Armitage Way, North Bridge Crossing Subdivision. [0:33:46, 0:34:06]: Uh I too am quite pleased to know that the uh millage rate's gonna be held at 3.77. And uh I just feel you know that we need to be very creative with all of our tax dollars. As I stated before, I was going on record as against any increase. Many of our neighbors are elderly. [0:34:06, 0:34:26]: fixed income and we're being challenged financially on every side. But I'm thankful for the council. Thank you, Mel, for the work that you guys have done in helping keep the Miller's rate the same. And like I said, let's be creative above board with the all of our tax dollars. Thank you. [0:34:26, 0:34:29]: Thank you. Next next person please. Name and address. [0:34:35, 0:34:37]: Uh good morning. Morning. Go ahead please. Name and address. [0:34:37, 0:34:57]: My name is Laretha Martin and I also live at 624 Armitage Way here in Stockbridge, Georgia. And the last meeting I said something about the time that we are having a meeting. And most of the people here probably are retired and you have working people and it's hard to get people here. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: to this meeting. [0:35:00, 0:35:19]: Also, I spoke with some of the residents where I live and I s about coming to the council meeting, they really don't have confidence in the council because they say you are gonna do what you wanna do anyway, so what's the need in common? [0:35:20, 0:35:34]: I feel like this when we vote for city council or who w when we vote, we vote looking for someone and expecting someone to look out for the people. [0:35:35, 0:35:51]: In my past, I have seen people over take over certain situations and after a period of time they think it's theirs, but we are you're here to look out for the s first and foremost for the people. [0:35:52, 0:35:55]: Ever since COVID came in [0:35:55, 0:36:15]: And I go when I go to go I just say this, when I go to the grocery store, I can come out with$40 and I have anything. I can look in my freezer and my refrigerator and things are not the way that it should be. Yes, it's a crisis. Everything is going up. Taxes going up. [0:36:15, 0:36:31]: Going up, food is going up, everything is going up. But the people here are because they are concerned about their livelihood. And that's what I that's what I want us to talk about today, is that think about the people. [0:36:32, 0:36:34]: The people that put you up here [0:36:34, 0:36:38]: And it's not a first and foremost it's it's about [0:36:39, 0:36:42]: The people, and that's all I have to say. [0:36:43, 0:36:46]: Thank you. Thank you very much. Ma'am, please, name and address. [0:36:50, 0:36:58]: Good morning everybody. Good morning to you. My name is Claire Kellum, two forty two Hunting Court in Jonesboro. [0:37:01, 0:37:03]: I want to say that um [0:37:07, 0:37:10]: Last week was my first time coming. [0:37:11, 0:37:18]: to the meeting. The first one, uh two ladies came by the neighborhood passing out papers. [0:37:20, 0:37:22]: If they hadn't a cane to my house. [0:37:23, 0:37:26]: I would not have known anything about the meetings. [0:37:27, 0:37:28]: Anything. [0:37:29, 0:37:30]: So [0:37:32, 0:37:33]: I don't know why. [0:37:34, 0:37:38]: How many meetings have been before I came last week? I don't know. [0:37:39, 0:37:39]: Because [0:37:40, 0:37:42]: I didn't get anything. [0:37:43, 0:37:43]: In Mail. [0:37:46, 0:37:49]: When my tax come, it comes in mail. [0:37:52, 0:37:56]: Every year. I get that, but I didn't know nothing about these meetings. [0:37:56, 0:38:00]: And being annexed into the stock bridge thing. [0:38:01, 0:38:03]: Was there a meetings for that? [0:38:05, 0:38:06]: I didn't know anything. [0:38:08, 0:38:10]: So something is not right. [0:38:12, 0:38:15]: Something is not right. So uh [0:38:16, 0:38:18]: It's like what's been said. [0:38:19, 0:38:23]: We are senior citizens. Let's let's be honest, you know. [0:38:24, 0:38:26]: Oh, getting ready to die. [0:38:29, 0:38:30]: Hey, let's face it. [0:38:31, 0:38:32]: I'm almost eighty. [0:38:33, 0:38:35]: Almost eighty years old. [0:38:37, 0:38:42]: My check don't hardly go up two or three dollars. What kind of money is that? [0:38:43, 0:38:45]: Do y'all understand what I'm saying? [0:38:46, 0:38:50]: Some of these people in here probably ain't getting nothing but a SSI check. [0:38:51, 0:38:52]: Gotta eat. [0:38:53, 0:38:55]: You got your utility bills to pay and stuff like that. [0:38:57, 0:38:58]: Property tax. [0:38:58, 0:39:01]: Land and property going up? What for? [0:39:01, 0:39:04]: Isn't it doing us no good? [0:39:04, 0:39:05]: We're not selling. [0:39:05, 0:39:09]: It it could be a million dollars. We're not getting anything out of it. [0:39:10, 0:39:15]: I stand by please. Councilman, I guess we're gonna continue this on. Okay. Go ahead please, ma'am. Continue. [0:39:16, 0:39:22]: Do y'all understand what I'm saying? I'm not trying to be mean or anything. I just, you know, I think I need to speak this. [0:39:24, 0:39:26]: I'm a single woman. I don't have a husband. [0:39:28, 0:39:30]: Do you do y'all understand what I'm saying? [0:39:30, 0:39:35]: Ma'am go ahead just me. Go ahead with your comments, please. Just continue on. So uh I'm [0:39:36, 0:39:38]: На фотос гонку. [0:39:39, 0:39:43]: I'm not my taxes went up over four hundred dollars last year. [0:39:44, 0:39:47]: And I got that exemption, had it since I was sixty two. [0:39:48, 0:39:51]: Been now going up, what for? My money ain't going up. [0:39:52, 0:39:54]: I gotta go buy groceries and stuff. [0:39:54, 0:39:56]: I don't get nothing from the government. [0:39:57, 0:39:58]: I don't get no food stamps. [0:40:01, 0:40:02]: I gotta eat. [0:40:04, 0:40:07]: So please do something for these people. [0:40:07, 0:40:08]: We need it. [0:40:10, 0:40:11]: We need it, said [0:40:13, 0:40:15]: We don't wanna be out in the woods sleeping. [0:40:16, 0:40:18]: On the ground and stuff. [0:40:18, 0:40:21]: Losing out of a house is cause we don't pay tax. [0:40:22, 0:40:25]: And you know that's what'll happen. So is that what's trying to be? [0:40:25, 0:40:29]: Raising the taxes so people can't pay so they can lose their homes? [0:40:31, 0:40:34]: Get real, folks. We got to think. [0:40:35, 0:40:38]: We livin' in the last days now. [0:40:38, 0:40:39]: Thanks. [0:40:40, 0:40:42]: You know, Jesus see all of this. [0:40:43, 0:40:46]: And he's gonna fix it. Somebody's going to hell. [0:40:47, 0:40:49]: Thank you for the comments. [0:40:49, 0:40:55]: Somebody just going to hell because robbing folks and doing lying and doing all God ain't pleased with it. [0:40:56, 0:40:59]: We got to be honest and we got to help people. [0:41:01, 0:41:02]: I'm serious. [0:41:03, 0:41:05]: Do y'all understand? I'm not trying to be mean. [0:41:06, 0:41:07]: But [0:41:07, 0:41:09]: Help somebody. [0:41:10, 0:41:12]: Please do help. [0:41:12, 0:41:15]: Po folks,'cause that's what we are. Ain't no millionaires in here. [0:41:17, 0:41:17]: Mm-hmm. [0:41:18, 0:41:38]: Please, that's all I gotta say. Okay, thank you very much. Uh recommendation once again is three point seven seven. It's not rising and not lowering. That was I opened it up for four comments, four to three point seven seven. So just in case, or anybody against? Anybody against the three point seven seven recommendation? Recommendation it is until we vote. I'm from the left side. Anybody want to speak at [0:41:38, 0:41:43]: That's against this particular recommendation. Anybody in the middle that wants to speak? [0:41:43, 0:41:45]: Anybody in my far right? [0:41:46, 0:41:57]: All right. I see no other hands, nobody raised. Okay. So I'm gonna close that part of our public hearing. All right, on that note. Now, Mr. Gardner, please come back to podium. [0:41:59, 0:42:10]: Yes, sir. If I may. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Uh thank you for asking Mr. Gardner to come back up. Uh Mayor, if you would or Mr Gardner would [0:42:11, 0:42:14]: Reemphasize the fact that [0:42:15, 0:42:18]: uh taxes in the city of Stockbridge. [0:42:18, 0:42:19]: Are not going up. [0:42:20, 0:42:21]: I think uh [0:42:21, 0:42:23]: Councilman Alexander. [0:42:23, 0:42:26]: Explained it pretty well about the county. [0:42:27, 0:42:28]: And the school board. [0:42:29, 0:42:31]: Which the city of Starkrid has no [0:42:32, 0:42:33]: Control of. [0:42:33, 0:42:36]: But we just need to make it clear. [0:42:36, 0:42:37]: Um [0:42:38, 0:42:38]: Mm-hmm. [0:42:38, 0:42:40]: That the city of Stark Bridge. [0:42:41, 0:42:42]: The taxes are not going up. [0:42:43, 0:42:43]: Thank you. [0:42:45, 0:42:48]: Yes, sir. Um council Councilmember Thomas. So s [0:42:49, 0:42:57]: The current millage rate is three point seven seven mills, which was adopted last year when the city imposed property tax for the first time in thirty plus years. [0:42:57, 0:43:00]: Forty plus years. Um [0:43:00, 0:43:02]: The recommendation is to keep that the same. [0:43:03, 0:43:12]: Um as I explained earlier, what has gone increase is the city's overall value has increased. So [0:43:12, 0:43:15]: As as your house has a value. [0:43:15, 0:43:21]: All houses and businesses in the city has a value that accumulative value is called your tax digest. [0:43:21, 0:43:25]: That has gone up. Had it gone down, obviously d there would be [0:43:25, 0:43:40]: I need to probably raise Miller's rate. Um, I gave that example of when that actually happened in Henry County, but not only just Henry County, across this country. If you owned a home in twenty ten, you saw a precipitous loss of value in your house. [0:43:41, 0:43:45]: Right, I gave my example. My house was port my house for a hundred and thirty four. [0:43:46, 0:43:48]: In in two thousand. [0:43:48, 0:43:51]: In twenty ten it was worth thirty two thousand dollars. [0:43:51, 0:44:02]: If I wanted to sell my house at that time, my number one asset was underwater. I could not refinance my house because my house my my house was less worth less than what [0:44:03, 0:44:04]: I was paying on it. [0:44:05, 0:44:08]: So your house is your biggest asset in the and yes. [0:44:08, 0:44:28]: That is supposed to be our nest egg. So when we do go into retirement and we can't afford to live in a 1,500 square foot house but have to go somewhere else, your goal is to potentially sell it to help pay defray your cost going into your retirement years. Um so that's the good part. The bad part is a downturn in the economy can affect the values in a negative way. [0:44:28, 0:44:29]: Yeah. [0:44:30, 0:44:40]: Um and so yes, so that was the recommendation is to keep the millage rate the same. But what precipitated it is under Georgia law, if your values go up [0:44:40, 0:44:42]: above last year's value. [0:44:43, 0:44:47]: Regardless if you keep the millage rate the same, in Georgia that's considered a tax increase. [0:44:48, 0:45:02]: Okay, I need for you to explain the notification process that goes in the Henry Herald or things that nature. And it could you explain, uh spound on that in reference to uh that notification and or uh the process of notifying the citizens overall. [0:45:03, 0:45:23]: Yeah, so um we're required to, as all com all communities, counties and cities are required to advertise um if there's going to be a millage rate increase in the local organ, in the legal organ. The legal organ for Henry County is the Henry Harrow. So we're required to do that. Um we also [0:45:22, 0:45:40]: post notices obviously on uh on our webpage letting folks know that that's the case. And this year I think the county handled the mil the advertising for the for the Miller's rate was handled by Henry County Tax Assessor's office, um commissioner's office. Um but that's the that is the legal statutory that everybody has to abide by. [0:45:40, 0:46:00]: So the process of sending out in mail outs is not part of the normal process to do this. It is not, no. It has not and that and if we want to do that as something on the that we the city would have to uh pay the bill for to send out to all the residents to uh along with additional notifications. Yes. Everything else. So obviously well this year's well this is we're about done this year. So otherwise [0:46:00, 0:46:11]: that we're gonna do this is something that we the collector units of council will have to decide if we wanna go forward on this, I would imagine, for the next the following years. Yep. And and there's a way that we can make that happen. Um [0:46:11, 0:46:28]: And the key is gonna be timing because we we all should be under one um well that won't work. Uh'cause you only get the bill your bill won't come to you on a regular basis. Um but uh if you're a water customer in the city, yes you can, but [0:46:28, 0:46:35]: We can put notification on there, but not every resident, almost only a third of our residents are actually on Stockbridge water. [0:46:35, 0:46:39]: Everybody else is either on Clayton County or they're on Henry County water. [0:46:40, 0:46:45]: So it's hard to to get that out without doing a a one direct mailer out to the [0:46:46, 0:46:49]: Фіфтін, 16,000 households in the city. [0:46:52, 0:47:05]: And once again, just uh if you could, in reference to November fifth and and the vote for the additional exemptions um that are that were worked out between us and the course of the legislative process. [0:47:05, 0:47:13]: Emphasize please once again the highlights of that upon it being sort of being approved by the citizens, they get an opportunity to vote on this in November. [0:47:13, 0:47:33]: Yes. So last year, as I mentioned, council um voted via resolution to submit to our state delegation, which is our House and our Senate representatives, um at the Georgia General Assembly for a imposition of millage for a millage rate exemption. [0:47:33, 0:47:44]: That tax exemption went through the legislative process at the Georgia General Assembly, was approved in the House, in the Senate, and was signed by the Governor um of the state of Georgia. [0:47:44, 0:48:04]: That will allow for an initiative. In Georgia, cities are political subdivisions of the state, cities and counties. Um and the only way you could form a new city or county is to go through a through that process or dissolve a county, you have to go through that same process. Um and so we've seen cities created. [0:48:04, 0:48:14]: by the legislature through referendum and folks get to vote on it, yes or no. And we've seen them devol dissolve. So have anybody been here long enough to remember Campbell County. [0:48:14, 0:48:17]: Campbell County used to exist in South Fulton County, it's no longer there. [0:48:18, 0:48:24]: Um you will see Kembleton Road, which is a reminder of, but this that county went away years ago. [0:48:24, 0:48:39]: Um so yes, so what that would do as a regular homeowner, um my age, I would qualify as a L one and I would get somewhere around ten to twelve thousand off of my property tax. [0:48:39, 0:48:40]: Um city. [0:48:41, 0:49:01]: If the legislation is approved. For anybody over sixty-two, they would see an additional, I think it's ten or fourteen thousand off their property tax. Um and then um if you also have a house on a septic, you also get that exemption as well. Um and so that process will entail an [0:49:01, 0:49:09]: Michael could take to it, the city's gonna have to do some additional things to be able to gather up all those information on who those people are. [0:49:09, 0:49:16]: um who those folks are on septic and making sure it is accurate and then they could let notify them that they have that exemption. [0:49:16, 0:49:31]: But that's the process. And so in November, on November fifth, general general election, which is presidential this year, you will see that initiative on the ballot that asks you, do you want homestead exemption from property taxes for the city of Stockbridge? [0:49:31, 0:49:37]: As far as you know, that that has never failed. As far as you know. [0:49:37, 0:49:53]: So be it. Council, if you have you got any more questions for Mr. Gardner or Mr. Harris before we uh before I ask for uh a motion. Just one statement. Go ahead, please, sir. Uh the fact is these millage hearings normally occur in July, right? Each year. [0:49:54, 0:49:59]: Yes, by by law they're required to be held in in uh in in July of the year. [0:50:00, 0:50:18]: Uh Michael could speak more to it, but I know there's a time frame on adoption of Yeah. So th the the timing is by law we have to have the bills out at least a minimum sixty days prior to the due date. So we kinda work backwards from that. Our due date is um taxes due on November sixteenth. So we back up so it has to be out to the public by [0:50:19, 0:50:29]: uh September sixteenth. So we like to make sure we have stuff and lumps cushions. So we have to again going back to the adoption date, make sure everything's adopted by the end of July. So that's why [0:50:30, 0:50:50]: Ever since I've been the last five years that I've been here, we've always done all the millage hearings in in July for all the cities and the um in the school board. And typically the county has to be the last one. Everyone else, all the other jurisdictions have to be adopted prior to they have their them having their final adoption. I think one time we got bumped. [0:50:50, 0:50:57]: into like the first or second of August. Um but yeah historically all the cities and the school board takes place um in the month of July. [0:50:57, 0:51:17]: Right, so E that's what I'm saying. We're working on getting the notification out, but understanding these meetings normally occur in July, so you could kind of focus on that when uh if you're seeking the information as we attempt to uh get the information out to you so that you're aware of when these meetings are. So any questions. [0:51:17, 0:51:21]: Question. How many of y'all are going to the school board this afternoon at four o'clock? [0:51:23, 0:51:28]: Where sixty percent of your money is going. You done came to three of these meetings. [0:51:28, 0:51:30]: Where we're not changing it. [0:51:31, 0:51:51]: But sixty percent of your money is going to the school board. And none of y'all are going to the school board meeting this afternoon? I don't know. Maybe they want maybe maybe we shouldn't really ask'em. You already mentioned that. I just wanna I just wanted to ask that okay, and then uh again to reinforce that twenty six percent goes to the county. That'll be set on the thirtieth, so if you might wanna uh go by there. [0:51:51, 0:51:54]: Ms. Barber, go ahead please. [0:51:56, 0:52:00]: Thank you, Mayor. Um this is not these are not questions, these are comments. [0:52:01, 0:52:02]: Um [0:52:02, 0:52:03]: The first thing [0:52:04, 0:52:06]: To notify residents of [0:52:06, 0:52:08]: Updates and things happening in the city. [0:52:09, 0:52:11]: I thought that we are required. [0:52:11, 0:52:13]: To send out quarterly newsletters. [0:52:14, 0:52:15]: to the residents. [0:52:15, 0:52:16]: I know I haven't received any. [0:52:16, 0:52:17]: This year. [0:52:18, 0:52:19]: Um and they were sparingly. [0:52:20, 0:52:20]: sent out. [0:52:20, 0:52:21]: Last year. [0:52:22, 0:52:23]: We need to get back to that. [0:52:24, 0:52:28]: Get back to sending out those newsletters. Just share all the good news. [0:52:28, 0:52:29]: All the upcoming [0:52:30, 0:52:31]: Um events and [0:52:31, 0:52:33]: functions of the city. [0:52:35, 0:52:36]: Uh [0:52:36, 0:52:40]: that will kind of minimize or eliminate some of the questions from residents. [0:52:41, 0:52:49]: As it pertains to the military adoption, I believe residents deserve to know how their tax dollars are being spent. [0:52:49, 0:52:52]: as well as the income of our city. [0:52:52, 0:53:01]: Hence the need to be transparent about the full financials of both sides of the ledgers, expenses and the income. [0:53:01, 0:53:04]: Unfortunately, none of that has been shared. [0:53:04, 0:53:06]: It was shared last year. [0:53:06, 0:53:07]: But not today. [0:53:07, 0:53:10]: Надрин в серии. [0:53:12, 0:53:13]: I believe in good governance. [0:53:14, 0:53:15]: I believe in best practice. [0:53:16, 0:53:21]: I believe in being transparent about our city's finances and being physically responsible. [0:53:22, 0:53:24]: The governing body is comprised of six members. [0:53:25, 0:53:26]: Including the mayor. [0:53:27, 0:53:30]: The governing body cannot make sound decisions. [0:53:30, 0:53:33]: without receiving regular financial updates. [0:53:34, 0:53:36]: This military adoption is too important. [0:53:37, 0:53:39]: For the council, for the governing body. [0:53:40, 0:53:42]: То на хав бен резів. [0:53:42, 0:53:44]: Full financials. [0:53:45, 0:53:47]: So we are basically making a decision. [0:53:47, 0:53:49]: Based on the recommendation. [0:53:50, 0:53:50]: Of staff. [0:53:51, 0:53:53]: With no financial information. [0:53:54, 0:53:55]: I don't know. [0:53:56, 0:53:59]: Whether or not this three point seven seven militray [0:53:59, 0:54:00]: Is even needed. [0:54:01, 0:54:06]: I don't know what the financial status of our city is. [0:54:07, 0:54:08]: I don't know any of it. [0:54:09, 0:54:10]: I'm the only one asking. [0:54:11, 0:54:13]: The council takes the position of [0:54:14, 0:54:20]: if there are only if there are three members of the governing body asking [0:54:20, 0:54:22]: Then staff will move on it. [0:54:22, 0:54:25]: They won't move on it if it's only one person. [0:54:25, 0:54:26]: Asking. [0:54:27, 0:54:28]: I'm the only one asking. [0:54:30, 0:54:31]: I will oppose. [0:54:31, 0:54:32]: Thank you, sir. [0:54:32, 0:54:34]: No problem. Any other comments from the council we asked for? [0:54:34, 0:54:36]: A motion to adopt this. Mayor. [0:54:36, 0:54:48]: Yes, ma'am. I have a a question. Go ahead. Uh no well, not even a question, it's more so a comment. Yes. I just didn't wanna from time time and time again we um we hear [0:54:49, 0:55:03]: the concerns of our constituents. A lot of times those concerns may not be something that we can really deal with, like the economy in general. We all are hurting. I'm I'm very aware of that. [0:55:03, 0:55:06]: I think America's hurting. The inflation's [0:55:06, 0:55:07]: Killing all of us, you're right. [0:55:08, 0:55:11]: You know, we go to the grocery store, we pay a hundred dollars and you get [0:55:11, 0:55:17]: Five items compared to the ten you used to have two years ago or three years ago. So we are hurting. [0:55:18, 0:55:36]: Um and I acknowledge that. I think we all on this council have acknowledged that. And we do have a duty to be financially, physically responsible. Um we I believe that the mayor council have have done so and we all individually do our homework. Um [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: And so be it. But I I do have I'm very sympathetic. [0:55:42, 0:56:02]: I totally understand where I'm a single parent, a single mom. Um and so we are hurting. America's hurting. And um I just pray for our country. And I uh I want to let you know I hear you loud and clear. Um we represent you on a municipal level. A lot of the [0:56:02, 0:56:11]: things and a lot of uh things that were discussed even with Councilman Alexander talking about where our dollars are from that taxes from [0:56:12, 0:56:16]: The the board of education having sixty up to sixty percent, fifty nine percent. [0:56:17, 0:56:20]: And then the county having the board education in the county. [0:56:20, 0:56:26]: All the way down to the water authority having five percent, whether you have water or not. [0:56:26, 0:56:33]: Those things are things that we all have to take into consideration. Um, education and knowledge of those things are key. [0:56:34, 0:56:54]: They are key and we are doing what we can do for the best interest of this constituents here in Stockbridge. That is what I do. And so, you know, I just ask that you continue to support and pray for us. If you ever have any problems, reach out to us as you are doing right now. One of the reasons why we have attended [0:56:54, 0:57:01]: ten o'clock meeting. We also have six o'clock meetings. We had some ten o'clock meetings for seniors who can't drive at night. [0:57:01, 0:57:16]: Or who don't leave after five or six o'clock. I just want you guys to know the reasoning of why we do what we do. We try to be fair and well-rounded. And trust me and believe me, we can't please everyone. [0:57:17, 0:57:35]: We don't please everyone, no matter what we do. If it's a Christmas tree, why you say Christmas? If it's a holiday, why are you celebrating this? So it's always someone that's not gonna be pleased. But we try to do what's in the best interest of our city and what the majority [0:57:35, 0:57:41]: of w what we think the constituents would want. And we do what we do based off of what is needed. [0:57:41, 0:57:53]: We have agreed as mayor and council even as of last year that we were not raising taxes and we did not raise taxes when it was time to and when it was time to annex. [0:57:54, 0:58:14]: There was a discussion that there will be a tax. And the reason for the tax was for the police department that we heard from constituents say that they wanted. That was the biggest demand. You wanted districts, you wanted a police department. When you want certain things, you have to pay for certain things. We also got a rollback from the county. [0:58:14, 0:58:34]: With those taxes. So if you got a four hundred dollar increase, then it didn't all come from the city of Stockbridge. It was an increase because the property values increased. And it's also an increase, we did a rollback so that it would balance out based off of what the money that you were used to pay the county versus what you pay the [0:58:34, 0:58:37]: Because we added in a service from the city. [0:58:38, 0:58:52]: And so those are things and those are things that are key that I think that mayor and council, I challenge each and every one of us, including our PIO officer and everyone here, all the stakeholders, to get to know the reasons why we do what we do. [0:58:53, 0:58:56]: But we're not just here saying let's have a ten o'clock meeting. [0:58:56, 0:58:58]: I don't want to be here at 10 o'clock. I have to go to work. [0:58:59, 0:59:00]: I'm in court. [0:59:00, 0:59:10]: But we are doing that so that everyone gets a chance for an opportunity to be heard. And just as Mr. Harris stated [0:59:10, 0:59:14]: Just to just to let you know, we're gonna it's gonna come out again next year. [0:59:14, 0:59:23]: Every as long as you have a tax, you have to have a hearing, whether you're increasing it or not. And there are always people on social media. [0:59:24, 0:59:44]: Next door, Facebook, you name it, they read it wrong, they get it wrong, or they haven't heard. Hey, we don't plan on raising the taxes. We're not gonna raise them. So everybody gets all excited and up in arms. Thank you for being here and thank you for being concerned. But just know, we have to pay those same taxes. [0:59:43, 0:59:48]: taxes to and I don't want to either. So I get it. We've been taxed to death. [0:59:49, 0:59:50]: I get it. [0:59:50, 0:59:51]: We get it. [0:59:53, 1:00:02]: Believe me, if we cannot pay taxes, I I don't believe anybody up here says, tax me, tax me. I don't know who would say that. [1:00:03, 1:00:10]: So I just want to kind of express those things to you because you never get a chance to see. [1:00:10, 1:00:15]: what it is from this side or what we're thinking and then why we do what we do. [1:00:16, 1:00:16]: Thank you. [1:00:17, 1:00:22]: All right, on that note, uh Mayor Ford. Yes, sir, please. If I may briefly Yes sir, go ahead, please. [1:00:22, 1:00:42]: I I just want to echo some of the things that my councilman has stated and and I think these comments before we take the vote are very important because I think oftentimes, uh, yes, citizen, you elect us in these positions and you elect us because you trust us. But as been indicated, [1:00:42, 1:00:43]: [3643.6, 3646.9]: Uh, there's a lot that goes on. [1:00:47, 1:00:50]: uh in a municipal government [1:00:51, 1:00:51]: Да [1:00:52, 1:00:54]: Decisions have to be made. [1:00:55, 1:00:59]: And if you live in a municipality or or city [1:01:00, 1:01:02]: The operations [1:01:02, 1:01:03]: Of that city. [1:01:04, 1:01:08]: When you see improvements in your roads [1:01:10, 1:01:11]: When you see [1:01:12, 1:01:13]: Um [1:01:14, 1:01:16]: Infrastructure. [1:01:16, 1:01:17]: Sewage. [1:01:18, 1:01:25]: Quality water. Y'all are familiar with the incident that happened in Flint, Michigan a few years ago. [1:01:26, 1:01:39]: So all of these things, you know, the resurfacing, you know, we try to deal with the potholes. Uh we have parks that we try to allow folks to have the wellness issues. [1:01:40, 1:01:44]: But the overall operation of a municipality [1:01:44, 1:01:47]: It takes a lot and there's a lot of decisions. [1:01:47, 1:01:55]: I'm a citizen and I'm a senior citizen as well. I'm not too far too far behind this lady right here. Um [1:01:56, 1:02:04]: But the things that and the quality of life that we all want, you know, in our life. [1:02:04, 1:02:08]: It comes at a cost, and across this country. [1:02:08, 1:02:28]: Everybody's crying about things are going up. Um, I've lived long enough that things always go up. And for 40 years we did not have a police service. I lived in Stockbridge when we did have police service, and that was a tax. When the police department went away, the tax went away. [1:02:28, 1:02:29]: [3750.6, 3753.5]: So as Councilwoman Gantt indicated that [1:02:33, 1:02:36]: There were hearings indicated that [1:02:36, 1:02:42]: The sit of Stockbridge needed that public safety back again. And as you know, [1:02:42, 1:02:44]: Public safety costs. [1:02:45, 1:02:47]: It costs. [1:02:47, 1:02:47]: No. [1:02:48, 1:02:53]: If crime was running rapid all over the city of Stockbridge, [1:02:53, 1:02:55]: This room would be full of [1:02:55, 1:02:59]: Crying, where is police services in the city of Stockbridge? [1:03:00, 1:03:11]: So we had to be proactive to bring that back. And so when public safety came back, attacks came with it because we know that [1:03:11, 1:03:19]: Cars, ammunition, bulletproof vests, all of the things that public service needs, it costs. [1:03:20, 1:03:22]: So we're not just [1:03:22, 1:03:28]: you know, passing an increase in tax as one said, we you know, we have to pay this very same tax. [1:03:29, 1:03:34]: But in order for a municipality to operate [1:03:35, 1:03:40]: There are certain things that has to go into it. And if you want the quality of life [1:03:41, 1:03:54]: These decisions that we are making, it's all about the quality of life. It's unfortunate that, you know, you got gouging in grocery stores and gas and things like it it is unfortunate. [1:03:56, 1:03:57]: But it's life. [1:03:58, 1:04:04]: But we do the best we can to try to make sure if you live in the city of Stockbridge, [1:04:04, 1:04:22]: that you got a quality of life. And I know since January we're into the district now and I've been engaging with folks that are in my district try to give information, trying to work with them on issues, et cetera, et cetera. Someone mentioned before about um the encampments and how it was [1:04:23, 1:04:25]: um bearing on their neighborhood. [1:04:27, 1:04:29]: The city had to come in and clean that up. [1:04:30, 1:04:34]: Now they charged back to the property owner, but the city had to come in and do that. [1:04:35, 1:04:36]: So my point is this. [1:04:38, 1:04:41]: Municipal governments are [1:04:41, 1:04:45]: It's a very challenging time for all of us. [1:04:45, 1:04:50]: To be able to do what we need to do uh for cities. [1:04:51, 1:04:55]: And when you talk about cities, you're talking about citizens and residents. [1:04:55, 1:05:07]: But please just look at your roads, look at um all of your infrastructure, the sewage, having quality water, having public surf t safety. [1:05:08, 1:05:10]: Look at all of these things. [1:05:10, 1:05:13]: All of these things goes into [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: А сити'с Операціона Бюджет [1:05:20, 1:05:36]: And so I just wanna close just by saying, you know, we do the best we can do. We live in this city. What we do here, you know, we're doing it to ourselves as well. I'm retired. So hey, it it's a burden on me too, but I have to bite the bullet. [1:05:37, 1:05:57]: But if I live in this city, I want to make sure that when I walk out my house, I'm safe. My streets, I don't want my car torn up because I don't wanna be hitting potholes every day. I want quality water. I don't want sewage spills all over the city being infected by that. But there's a [1:05:57, 1:06:03]: a lot more and it just I just hit the surface about what's a municipality has to do. [1:06:04, 1:06:11]: And I think we have a really good staff, we have professional staff, and they're out there every day. [1:06:11, 1:06:17]: uh learn and get and train and and try to, you know, provide a great city. [1:06:18, 1:06:20]: But it it's not easy. [1:06:20, 1:06:30]: And I would love to trade this seat, you know, w one of you all one day and get up here and have to make some of these tough decisions. But you're bombarded with [1:06:31, 1:06:33]: All of the information [1:06:34, 1:06:39]: that it takes to run this city and all of the issues um [1:06:40, 1:06:49]: The police department years ago, it was corrupt and that's why it took it down. Just like I say, the tax went away. But if you know anything about crime, [1:06:51, 1:06:55]: We all site six o'clock news, and I think we're fortunate. [1:06:55, 1:06:59]: that the city of Stockbridge is not experiencing [1:06:59, 1:07:02]: A lot of the crimes that we're reading about [1:07:03, 1:07:11]: But thank God that we have a Stybridge Police Department that's proactive. And this is what we're trying to prevent now. [1:07:11, 1:07:13]: Can you prevent crime? [1:07:14, 1:07:15]: No. [1:07:16, 1:07:23]: But you know, you just have to do the best you can do. But I think we're fortunate right now. But again, may I thank you in counsel. Um [1:07:25, 1:07:42]: We're not increasing the millage at this point in time because we hear you and we we are doing just enough to make sure that whatever we do, that this city can still operate. [1:07:43, 1:07:44]: Efficiently [1:07:44, 1:08:04]: effectively and efficiently. And we do this because we are always trying to make sure that the city of Stockbridge is at the top as far as quality of life. And this is what we're trying to do. And I think some of you really appreciate, you know, what you see in this city. But I [1:08:04, 1:08:07]: understand it too that we come here because [1:08:08, 1:08:27]: You know, who who love to pay more in taxes? I know I don't. But, you know, some things just come with life and we just have to do the best we can do. But I just thank all of you all for coming out and we love to hear from you. Uh I I'm I'm I don't feel bad of any of the comments that we've heard. I think a lot of time we just have to be a little bit more [1:08:28, 1:08:42]: uh understanding and a little bit more uh education and I'm gonna agree with um Councilwoman Barber about, you know, the newsletter. And we're gonna get back to that. And I'll just say this too. Th there are other council members [1:08:43, 1:08:47]: asking about financial report because the decisions that we have to make [1:08:48, 1:08:50]: We had to have information. [1:08:50, 1:08:53]: In order for us to make a sound decision. [1:08:54, 1:09:10]: And I I agree with that. But uh I'm going to encourage too the staff to get back to the newsletter because there's a lot of information that can be provided to citizens in the newsletter. So we'll get back to that. Thank you, Mayor. No problem, no problem. Mayor for Tim, very pleased. [1:09:11, 1:09:31]: Good morning again to everyone. And first of all, again, I want to thank everyone for coming out this morning and those who have come to the previous meetings as well. I think it's important for what has been said today to be restated that this council has definitely heard you today. Uh we've heard you the previous days as well. And rest assured your voices are not [1:09:31, 1:09:49]: unheard. And so the actions of this council today will definitely represent the voice of the citizens of Stockbridge, but not just today, every day moving forward. I believe my peers and those sitting around me today, as the youngest member of this council and the newest member of this council, we all come from different perspectives and different [1:09:50, 1:09:58]: backgrounds. And uh me, I'm not a single father, but I am married. But my wife and I, we have seven children. [1:09:58, 1:10:18]: And the same expenses that you struggle with as seniors, we struggle with is parents, college, tuition, clothing, all the things that you guys are talking about, it's not foreign to us either. We're also residents. We're council members, but we're also residents. And we hurt the same way you hurt, we bleed the same way you bleed, and we work hard the same way. [1:10:18, 1:10:38]: Where you work hard, and we want to stretch our dollar the best way we can. Everybody here does. And so we'll never, ever, ever, ever compromise that for you guys. And I just want you guys to understand that there is integrity on these seats. And there are people who hear your voices. I want to get to that place one day where I can apply for an exemption. I'm not able yet, but I want to get to that. [1:10:38, 1:10:50]: get there. So I aspire to be where you guys are because it is a testament to what this country was built on. Hard work, determination, all that good stuff. And so even though we're not there yet, we want to be. [1:10:50, 1:10:51]: We wanna be. [1:10:52, 1:11:02]: And so I just want you to know that we hear you today. These notices that you guys asked for, we don't get that. We're gonna get those things in the mail, in your mailbox. We don't get that stuff. [1:11:02, 1:11:22]: We're gonna get you guys the uh updated information, have more town halls, and get you guys a chance to come out and ask these questions beforehand so you don't have to rush in here and and feel like you've been, you know, misrepresented or whatever the case may be. I just want you to know today, if you don't don't get anything else from this, we hear you and we care about. [1:11:22, 1:11:25]: And we understand what you're going through. [1:11:25, 1:11:28]: It may not be the same story, but we all got one. [1:11:29, 1:11:49]: And we're in this thing together. The city of Stockbridge is a great place to live. That's why I moved here. And that's why I chose to raise my kids here. And so the same reason why you guys are here, this is what makes us great. This diversity across this room. And I appreciate every single person in here, resident, employees, staff members, everybody who does this great work to keep this city looking. [1:11:48, 1:11:55]: Looking the way it does and working the way it does, your money is going to good places. It's not wasted. [1:11:55, 1:11:58]: And I want you to understand that in the staff you're doing a great job. [1:11:59, 1:12:07]: Public Works is doing a great job. Police department's doing a great job. We see it. I know it bothers us. When the m when the price goes up, it bothers us. [1:12:08, 1:12:28]: But we know we're getting it, right? We're getting it. It still stings. I don't ever want to pay it, but you know you're getting it and you're getting quality. And I just want to thank you guys. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being who you are and showing up today and getting other people to show up. Thank you. Keep doing what you're doing and call us, email us, text us. [1:12:28, 1:12:31]: Whatever it is, if you got a voice of concern, I wanna hear it. [1:12:33, 1:12:43]: And I know my councilmates want to hear it. Everybody here is compassionate about Stockbridge. We may do it in a different way, but we're all passionate about the citizens of Stockbridge. Thank you guys. [1:12:44, 1:13:04]: Yeah, thank you. Oh, you have something to say, sir? Yes, briefly. Okay. Go ahead, please. Let me just say this. Right now I want to echo thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you all for those comments because understanding this is a tough job, but and I and I tell people this is that we don't do it for the money, certainly not, because money's not that good. [1:13:04, 1:13:24]: We do it because we care about the community. And we want to make sure. And I say this all the time. I want to see my granddaughter grow up. I want to see her grow up here. And a lot of times we have tough decisions to make. And the kids see things differently than we see it sometimes. You know, some of the times we get shocked and scared when we say, [1:13:24, 1:13:44]: Well, we see an apartment coming up in our neighborhood. But my kid, my daughter lives in an apartment, and I get to see my granddaughter because their new apartment is there. I enjoy seeing her. I want to see her grow up. And because they can't afford a$350,000 house, she can't afford the apartment. [1:13:44, 1:14:04]: They sit there, I see them, and I get to see them regularly. And they told us that per company, you know, listen, when I get out of high school and I graduate, and your grandkids graduate, do they want to come back to Henry County? They took a survey and it says 70% of them said, Nope, it's nothing to do for us to do. I took that to heart and I said, you know what I want. [1:14:04, 1:14:24]: I want to provide a place for my kids that when they're after college and after education to come back and to live and to drive and to f to flourish here in this community. And at the top of that, I wanted them to be safe. The community is safe. You see the two officers back here? They want the finest police force and the model. [1:14:24, 1:14:32]: For America is what our goal is, and that your community is safe. And today, because we did that, crime is down. [1:14:33, 1:14:40]: That's right. Crime is down in this city. And the chief is doing a good job. All of the officers are doing a magnificent job. [1:14:41, 1:15:01]: We gotta understand and take that to heart. When I hear that a hundred people got shot in Chicago over one weekend, and then I see on next door where people are saying, you know, this is going on, they pick an isolated crime and they drill down on that because one crime happened. W the police department is not gonna prevent. [1:15:01, 1:15:09]: Every crime. And as the chief said, our prime pretty much is petty crime, the petty theft, and that kind of thing at Walmart. [1:15:10, 1:15:30]: But most of the time what we see and then any time that we see a unfortunate incident where somebody is harmed, it's normally a domestic situation where somebody got injured upon as someone who is familiar to them, not a stranger randomly coming up and robbing you or something like that. So the community. [1:15:30, 1:15:50]: Is relatively safe, and I will say this, and I'll go to my grave saying it. We made the right decision to start the police department. That required a millage. I would do it again, and I would never change that decision because it was the right decision to set the community on a solid foundation, and it will continue to move forward. [1:15:49, 1:16:06]: in a safe manner. I go to grip my grave with that, saying that decision was the right decision. And we'll continue to do that. And certainly I wanna close that and certainly Mayor, I'd make the motion if you Yeah, well I was gonna go there next, but if you want to do that, go right here, sir. [1:16:06, 1:16:13]: Thank you. I appreciate you all coming out and I wanna set the city millage this year at three point seven seven unchanged. [1:16:13, 1:16:14]: Is there a second? [1:16:15, 1:16:20]: Uh that was m that was m Allen? Al okay, Mr. Thomas second that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:16:20, 1:16:21]: Oppose. [1:16:22, 1:16:33]: I oppose and if I could add a comment, sir. Okay, s once before you say that, so it's uh three no four four one it passes. Comment coming. Go ahead, please. I oppose because [1:16:34, 1:16:35]: Not that I don't [1:16:35, 1:16:36]: Think [1:16:36, 1:16:37]: than a military. [1:16:37, 1:16:38]: Is necessary. [1:16:39, 1:16:40]: I just don't know. [1:16:41, 1:16:42]: It's not that I don't think. [1:16:43, 1:16:43]: Um [1:16:46, 1:16:53]: Not that I don't think it's necessary. It's just that the council has not been provided full financials. [1:16:53, 1:16:56]: We've talked about the expenses of the city. [1:16:56, 1:16:59]: But we have not talked about the income. [1:16:59, 1:17:00]: The revenue. [1:17:00, 1:17:01]: Of a city. [1:17:02, 1:17:05]: We've talked about the millage rate. [1:17:05, 1:17:08]: Being adopted originally because of the police department. [1:17:08, 1:17:10]: But we also have another [1:17:11, 1:17:12]: Capital Asset. [1:17:12, 1:17:14]: That no one wants to talk about here. [1:17:14, 1:17:16]: It's the operations of the amphitheater. [1:17:17, 1:17:18]: None of that information. [1:17:18, 1:17:20]: is being provided. [1:17:20, 1:17:22]: to the full governing body. [1:17:23, 1:17:24]: I oppose. [1:17:25, 1:17:26]: We need to be transparent. [1:17:26, 1:17:27]: About the way we govern. [1:17:28, 1:17:29]: And the way we do business. [1:17:29, 1:17:32]: Thank you, sir. I need a motion to end our meeting, please. [1:17:33, 1:17:33]: So well. [1:17:34, 1:17:35]: Uh excuse me. [1:17:35, 1:17:41]: So m so m so move. So for Miss Gantt, second. Second, Mr. Berry second. All favor, please indicate. [1:17:42, 1:17:44]: Morning, meeting and journal. God bless you all. Thank you for being here.
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    --- title: Special Called Meeting Public Hearing 2 Millage Rate date: 2024-07-19 source: 2024-07-19_Special_Called_Meeting_Public_Hearing_2_Millage_Rate.wav --- [0:00:07, 0:00:09]: Ms. Holliday, are we alive yet? [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: Okay, he's he's on this side. [0:00:43, 0:00:43]: Okay. [0:00:45, 0:01:02]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to open up this uh public uh hearing in reference to uh our millage uh rate. And so I have uh ten oh five and I'll call the meeting order. And please stand for the invocation. Mayor Pro Tem Berry, please. [0:01:04, 0:01:24]: Let us bow our hands. Let us pray. Eternal God, our Father, we thank you this morning for first of all waking us up and giving us a fresh start to a brand new day with new grace and new mercy. We pray for the city of Stockbridge and all of its citizens today that are here for public hearing. We pray, Lord God, that this meeting will go well, that we will go, Lord God, that you will order our steps. In your son Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:01:24, 0:01:40]: Amen. Pledge allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:41, 0:01:42]: Roll call, Madam Clerk, please. [0:01:47, 0:01:49]: Good morning. Morning. [0:01:49, 0:01:54]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Timberry. Present. Councilmember Alexander. [0:01:54, 0:01:56]: Present. Councilmember Barker. Present. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Councilmember Gantt. [0:01:59, 0:02:04]: That the record reflects Council Member Gantt is not in attendance. Council Member Thomas. [0:02:05, 0:02:25]: Let the record reflect. Council Member Thomas is not in attendance. Mayor forward, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate it. Council, I need adoption, a motion to adopt the agenda, please. So move. Is there a second? Mr. From Math, Mr. Alexander and Ms. Uh Barber, all in favor, please indicate. You can unanimous decision on that aspect. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a public hearing and before we get started. [0:02:25, 0:02:41]: on the actual dialogue. Let me read you the public hearing rules. Please mute mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out a form available on the table and hand it to a city clerk before approaching the podium. [0:02:42, 0:03:02]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant of the representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with or with any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have [0:03:02, 0:03:03]: [183.8, 189.6]: East side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended at the discretion of the council. [0:03:10, 0:03:30]: Please keep uh comments and presentation professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. Will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual or group. Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer. [0:03:30, 0:03:50]: and never to the members of the council, staff, or to the audience. All comments will be made from the podium, where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. [0:03:49, 0:04:09]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part or or part of his or her speaking time as rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire 10 minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the counsel may ask the applicant to address questions andor concerns. [0:04:09, 0:04:29]: The presiding officer will call for a motion and second to the motion and we'll have a necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for a vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. That's our public hearing rules for this morning. And the first item, of course, since the public hearing in reference to millage rate will be a millage rate discussion presentation by Mr. [0:04:29, 0:04:40]: Mr. Frederick Gardner, our city manager. But before we get started, I want to the citizens to know that we have Michael Harrison, our tax commissioner, for here in Henry County along with the staff present. So thank you, Mr. Harrison, your staff for being here with us today. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:04:42, 0:04:43]: I'd um [0:04:44, 0:04:52]: Ms. Gardner, sir, please proceed to the Mr. Thank you. Good morning, Mayor, good morning, Council, and good morning to the residents and staff um present with us here. [0:04:52, 0:05:01]: Um today we're gonna do a presentation, uh second presentation for uh public hearing, second pres second presentation on the setting of our military. [0:05:02, 0:05:22]: So as we mentioned at our first meeting on Monday, um Stockbridge is a growing city, uh and Stockbridge continues to grow as a city. Um over the last twenty years the city has added over uh thirty thousand people to its city limits. [0:05:22, 0:05:42]: um through annexations and just through general growth alone. And as we know, those growth comes with the need for services um in and around the city, uh as it relates to public works and specifically as it relates to our new police department. And so those are some of our chief cost indicators as we go through this [0:05:42, 0:05:56]: growth period. So we as the staff have been working diligently to put together a preliminary budget um for all of our general fund departments. Um and based on that we are able to deduct a miller's rate to support [0:05:56, 0:06:01]: Um providing those continue p continue providing those services to our residents and businesses. [0:06:03, 0:06:13]: So the millage rate. So from last year to this year, our millage rate pretty much grew from one point eight six billion to one point nine four billion. [0:06:14, 0:06:34]: Um that is a four point four percent increase. And under Georgia law, um whether we move the millage rate or not, that is considered would be considered a tax break uh tax increase if we don't go to the rollback. All right. Our current millage rate is set at three point seven seven. That was set last year um with the initial uh [0:06:34, 0:06:54]: um tax rate millage. And during that time we had advertised uh a millage last year of six with the understanding that we know we were gonna come in lower than that number. And we came in at 3.77. Um for this year we did pretty much the same not go as high as we did last year, but looking at all [0:06:53, 0:07:13]: The evidence we advertise at 4.25 as our placeholder and under the law, we can't go any higher than that if we needed to. So whatever number you advertise, you can go below it from zero to that number, but you can't go above it once you advertise it. So we said that. [0:07:13, 0:07:33]: Um recommended village rate, which was to keep the millage rate at 3.77. So our millage rate will not be increasing. So the only thing that precipitated the need for our public hearings is the growth in the city's values as a whole. And that growth is not universal. I learned that from our first meeting. So one of the ladies took the city. [0:07:33, 0:07:42]: That came up that I went after the meeting to sit down with her property value actually went from 312,000 to 302,000. [0:07:43, 0:07:49]: Right. So her property actually lost value this year. Um and so that's pretty much evident. [0:07:50, 0:08:03]: Um based on the reason why you see some of our adjacent cities have twelve percent growth and we have a four point four percent growth. So not all of our properties are actually seeing increases, and that was evident in speaking with that homeowner yesterday on Monday. [0:08:06, 0:08:10]: I try to make this a little bigger, but this is what our digest look like. [0:08:10, 0:08:16]: So over the over the last few years, our property values have gone from just under a million in twenty nineteen billion. [0:08:17, 0:08:19]: to over one point nine billion um [0:08:20, 0:08:21]: in twenty twenty four. [0:08:22, 0:08:24]: And based on that we have exemptions [0:08:24, 0:08:27]: Uh we have motor vehicles which came in at three point four. [0:08:27, 0:08:30]: Mi uh mil um miljun dollars. [0:08:30, 0:08:37]: Mobile home which we still have mobile homes here in the city at two million. We don't have timber anymore. I hadn't had that in a long time. [0:08:37, 0:08:40]: Um and then the heavy duty equipment. [0:08:41, 0:08:52]: And then you see when you add all of those up that gives you your gross digest. And then we have exemptions. So there's about forty four point seven million dollars of exemptions. Most of those apply through the county. [0:08:52, 0:09:00]: Um, for home moon is existing. And I'll talk a little bit more about what how that's gonna impact us this year. So our net digest was one point nine. [0:09:01, 0:09:06]: um mil um billion dollars. Uh when you apply uh three point seven seven million to that. [0:09:07, 0:09:27]: Remember you have to do the forty percent rule and then you apply a miller's rate of three point seven seven. Um we should get right around seven point one million in taxes. Last year it was projected at six point eight. That is about a three hundred and six thousand dollar difference. So it's not a huge by any stretch um difference between the two. And that [0:09:27, 0:09:29]: That's what precipitates the four point four growth rate. [0:09:30, 0:09:48]: So how does that apply um to homes across our a category? So a house that's worth uh a hundred and fifty is appraised at a hundred and fifty, assessed forty percent of that assessed is the assessed value, which is sixty thousand. That's what you're taxed on. Once you apply [0:09:48, 0:09:54]: The three point seven seven mil it's two hundred and twenty six dollars a year or [0:09:54, 0:10:01]: And if the rollback is two sixteen, the difference between the two is pretty much nine dollars and fifty-eight cents. [0:10:01, 0:10:14]: uh annually or eighty cents a month. On average our homes are right around two hundred and seventy to two hundred and eighty. That's the median homes in Stockbridge. So a house in that category [0:10:14, 0:10:34]: Uh of two hundred and seventy-five, the assessed value with their tax on is 110. Um the wheel rollback millage rate will be three hundred and ninety-seven. The projected uh recommended rate of three point seven seven will be four hundred and ten, and that equates to about a seventeen dollars and fifty-six cents increase. [0:10:34, 0:10:39]: increase on an annual basis or one dollars and forty six cents a month. [0:10:40, 0:10:49]: And that's pretty much there. Uh currently the cities uh that have millage rate, McDonough's at three point zero zero, Hampton is at four point oh. [0:10:49, 0:10:51]: And I think Henry's at twelve point seven. [0:10:52, 0:10:56]: So that gives you an idea of what if your house falls in that range, what you'll be paying. [0:11:00, 0:11:12]: And this kind of clarifies that for some of the houses around the city and what their um assess uh assessed uh property tax values are, appraised values are, once you apply to three point seven seven, what that looks like. [0:11:20, 0:11:29]: And uh preliminary budget to kinda get a idea. So if we go to the rollback three point six, um that would put us right about three hundred and five um [0:11:30, 0:11:30]: Over [0:11:30, 0:11:33]: uh revenues to expenses at three point seven seven [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: that actually balances out. [0:11:36, 0:11:42]: Um and any higher than that, obviously those other options don't count because the staff is recommending three point seven seven mils. [0:11:47, 0:11:57]: So when we talk about taxing entities in Henry County, you have four taxing entities that that apply taxes to your property. [0:11:57, 0:12:17]: Um one being the Water Authority. They have a two mil tax on all properties in Henry County. So for our residents, some of whom are not on Henry County water, they're strictly on the city of Stockbridge, or they are on Clayton County water, depending on where you live. So if you live closer to the west side of the city, you [0:12:17, 0:12:19]: You get Clayton County if you're in the north [0:12:20, 0:12:40]: East, we're on our west side, which would be straight up Bali Hill Road, that area in there, you're on Clayton County water. So you're still being taxed, a two-mil tax by the water authority for the air services that they don't give you. Um and then you have the city at 3.7 is pretty much eleven. [0:12:40, 0:12:42]: Um percent of that dollar. [0:12:42, 0:12:53]: Henry County is at about twenty six percent and the school board is right at about sixty to fifty nine percent. So literally if you put that in terms of dol a dollar and a cent limit. [0:12:54, 0:13:00]: On a dollar sixty cents, sixty cents goes to the school board, twenty-six cents goes to the county. [0:13:00, 0:13:09]: Eleven cents comes to the city and five cents goes to the water authority. And those are the folks that you pay for tape to property tax to in Henry County. [0:13:11, 0:13:16]: This is our second meeting. We have one more meeting after this, which will be held on Monday. [0:13:16, 0:13:36]: uh at ten a.m. and that's where council will vote on a millage rate, what millage rate that will be. Um staff is recommending to hold the millage rate at three point seven seven. Um and then the millist rate once adopted by council at that next meeting will apply to your properties for this upcoming tax season. But also be mindful that on [0:13:36, 0:13:52]: On your ballot in November, um, which we have a general election this year, you will have a ballot initiative which will allow for you to vote yes for homestead exemption on city of Stockbridge property tax. And that'll take effect in 2025. [0:13:52, 0:13:54]: Um that application process will [0:13:54, 0:14:02]: will be look similar to Henry County's but it you will have to apply here at City Hall for it and we'll make that available um as soon as the [0:14:03, 0:14:12]: The bali the tally is counted on the votes. Um if it's approved, we'll make that available for folks to start applying for their homestead exemption shortly thereafter. [0:14:15, 0:14:35]: And that's the end of my presentation. Thank you, Ms. Garner. I appreciate that. And obviously that uh that vote is is Tuesday, November 5th, if I got the date right. That is correct. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, I have uh initially uh uh mentioned to you about the tax commissioner and Michael Harrison's staff being here. I now want to also mention to you that State Representative Demetrius Douglas is also present with us. If you want to raise your hand there, sir. [0:14:35, 0:14:55]: Okay. Uh Council, we have any questions right now for Mr. Gardner? Uh we've been to this presentation before, but let me know if anybody had any specific comments before we open up to the public. Mayor. Go right here, sir. Certainly I appreciate the excellent presentation, Mr. Gardner, and certainly we have [0:14:55, 0:15:15]: Uh this a different some additional constituents that we had on Monday, but the presentation is excellent. But I just want to make sure we hit the key points. First of all, the staff recommendation, even though the advertised rate was 4.125, the staff recommendation is to fully fund the budget, we can [0:15:15, 0:15:35]: can leave the millage rate unchanged at 3.77. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay, now there I think last year we did the same thing. Uh uh as you said, um we the advertised millage rate was six percent, but we ended up setting the millage rate at three point seven seven, which is uh, [0:15:35, 0:15:55]: what we did here. The staff recommendation was four point uh one two five uh last year, but the council opted to take the lower rate and I made the motion to take the lower rate at three point seven seven because I we understood that there would be no exemptions in the first two years. Is that correct? [0:15:54, 0:16:01]: Uh yes, that is correct. You guys voted on the three point seven seven and at the time there was no option for homestead exemption. [0:16:02, 0:16:10]: So we obviously council back um this early this year or late last year pass a resolution that went to the General Assembly. [0:16:11, 0:16:20]: And the General Assembly passed that resolution signed by the governor to put the pot initiative on the ballot to allow for Stockbridge residents to apply for homestead exemptions. [0:16:20, 0:16:40]: Right. Now when I made that motion to set the initial millage rate at three point seven seven in my comments, I noted that we didn't have those exemptions. So what we wanted to do was literally give everyone those exemptions up front by setting the millage rate at the lowest rate possible in order to fund the city budget. [0:16:40, 0:17:00]: Budget, including uh the new police department, which is the primary share uh and reasoning for the new uh tax that we had to implement last year. So that is understanding the homestead exemption, the senior exemption. If we had those exemptions, the rate would have been set higher. [0:17:00, 0:17:20]: Higher than 3.77 because it would have reduced the overall revenue coming to the city. So the conscious of that, I made the motion to set the rate at 3.77, basically giving everybody those exemptions up front. So in essence, we lowered that amount in [0:17:20, 0:17:40]: And then we went to the skinny side, making sure that we uh could fund the budget, but at the least amount possible. And as we have seen this year, uh I have been a proponent of making sure that economic development drives the city, and certainly we have, and we've seen significant growth, and I think Mr. [0:17:40, 0:18:00]: Mr. Gardner, we'll be seeing those numbers increase a lot with the multi-million dollar businesses that we're seeing open in the city over at uh Jodico and other developments, driving the revenue number, increasing that side, taking the pressure off of residents. Uh the last remark that I want to make is folks, uh [0:18:00, 0:18:20]: understand the rate that we said is at three point seven seven mils. All along for the last decade, if you lived in the city of Stockbridge, you were paying a one point uh one point nine oh four rate for Henry County police. You folks the real didn't [0:18:20, 0:18:40]: Realize you already had a city tax. You were paying for police services to Henry County for one point or 1.904 meals to the county. So for since that time, when we changed over to the Stockbridge Police Department, that 1.904 meals came to the [0:18:40, 0:19:00]: City, at which point we start collecting it now, it shows up as a city millage. In essence, what we did was we increased that 1.09 millage to 3.77. So in effect, we set an additional millage into the millage that you had already been paying for one. [0:18:59, 0:19:19]: 1.86, which basically we ch we did. We looked at every possibility to make this as low as possible, and then at adding only one point eight six to the one point nine oh four that you have been paying to Henry County for the last decade. Now we have eighty six officer, eighty-six [0:19:19, 0:19:37]: personnel in our police department, crime is actually down in the city because we were being very proactive. And I thank the council for taking those initial steps in order to make sure that we kept the city safe and financially sound. So thank you. [0:19:37, 0:19:40]: No problem, welcome. Anybody any other council members' comments? [0:19:41, 0:19:42]: Okay, well, Ms. Barber. [0:19:43, 0:19:48]: Um, I was hoping to be able to take a deeper dive into the city's finances before we made [0:19:49, 0:19:50]: A decision. [0:19:50, 0:19:52]: Regarding the public [0:19:52, 0:19:54]: Regarding the millage rate adoption. [0:19:55, 0:19:56]: That's what I was hoping for. [0:19:56, 0:19:59]: We did not do that deeper dive last year. [0:20:00, 0:20:08]: Um I accepted the three point seven seven milge rate last year as the lowest milge rate. Um [0:20:09, 0:20:11]: Just to get us over the hump. [0:20:12, 0:20:19]: But this year I kinda expected that we would do a deeper dive before the council adopted the military. [0:20:20, 0:20:26]: We have a responsibility of looking at both the expenses and revenues of the city. [0:20:26, 0:20:27]: Um [0:20:27, 0:20:28]: People are hurting. [0:20:29, 0:20:31]: We're being taxed all over the place. [0:20:31, 0:20:32]: With everything. [0:20:32, 0:20:34]: Gas, groceries. [0:20:34, 0:20:35]: Everything. [0:20:36, 0:20:38]: So I just wanted us to be able to look at [0:20:38, 0:20:42]: You know, what's coming in to the city's covers and what's going out. [0:20:42, 0:20:45]: And finding opportunities where we can [0:20:45, 0:21:05]: decrease our budget, tighten our belts, and go from there. Um so that's all. Thank you, appreciate it. If you know the comments then what I'll do is uh it's a public hearing so we'll open up the public hearing for you citizens to respond yay or nay or give you comments here. Mayor uh I think I thought last time we [0:21:05, 0:21:12]: called up to the case. Good point. I'm sorry. Good point. Thank you very much. Mr. Harris, could you come to the could you come to the mic please? [0:21:13, 0:21:15]: Thank you. Appreciate that. [0:21:15, 0:21:28]: Yeah, but this uh ladies and gentlemen once again, Mr. Harris, the task commissioner for Henry County. Um, anything, sir, before we open up the public comments, anything that you need to add into this conversation at all, anything that uh comments at all? [0:21:28, 0:21:36]: No, good good morning, Mayor. Good morning, Mayor Pro Temmon, Council members. Uh one point I would like to add to kind of piggyback off of Councilman Alexander's point. [0:21:36, 0:21:56]: The county this year is considering an increase to some of the special service district millage rates. So that one point nine from previous years has now been proposed to be up to four point four point seven for this year. So that would have been transferred over to the s citizens of Stockbridge, um had they not gone forward with their own [0:21:56, 0:22:16]: police force so the number would have certainly have increased from the initial one point one nine. Also did want to add that um we've been to a couple of the hearings for the Board of Education and they are currently proposing a 1.68 mil decrease on their bond. So the other good news in this is that there would be a slight decrease on [0:22:16, 0:22:36]: The Board of Education's portion as well. So it's um nice to be able to bring a little bit of good news every now and then. But so those are some nice, nice points that we're able to add. So but beyond that, again, always appreciate the working relationship we have with the city. Um work with Mr. Gardner and his staff has always been beneficial, always works well. We have stringent deadlines that we have [0:22:36, 0:22:56]: To make sure we meet every single year to make sure we get the bills out in a timely manner. Um, so right where we are right now, the we're looking for final adoption by the board of commissioners on July 30th. Um, once that occurs, we'll be contacting the state. We have to confer with the state to get final approval on authorization to move forward with the collection of um of taxes. [0:22:56, 0:23:02]: anticipate that being that first week in August. From there we move forward with creating the draft bills. [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: Um we go through that process with our printers, go through the [0:23:05, 0:23:25]: creation of the bill, the review of the bills. That takes about a week and a half to two weeks. So typically we shoot for that last week in August to be s setting bills out and to be sending them out for folks to see. We know everyone has had issues and challenges with our postal service. I would implore everyone to make sure if you have not seen your bill by that first, second week of September [0:23:25, 0:23:45]: Go on our website, henrycottontax.com. You can simply it's it's very, very um user friendly. Go and add your your name or your address, pull up your bill, and you can pull up your bill right from right from the website if you have any issues, or always contact our office. So that's it. Yeah, go ahead, please. Wow. [0:23:44, 0:24:04]: Uh every time you come, you bring some good news. But I I don't want to g glaze over the fact of what you said in your initial comments. What you said in your initial comments was that one point nine oh four was going to increase to four. Is that four exactly or four point four point seven? [0:24:04, 0:24:24]: Is what's being proposed. 4.7. That rate is actually higher than our total city millage at 3.77. So understanding, we started a full-fledged police department, implemented a city millage. If we had not done so, [0:24:25, 0:24:45]: The county millage would have increased to a total of higher than this 3.77 millage. So you see, we're trying to keep it as skinny as possible. And on top of that, the plus side is now we have a full-fledged police department in addition to uh the county side. And I and in the deputy tax committee. [0:24:45, 0:25:05]: Commissioner did a excellent job and you did last year of talking about something that the residents are or were not fully aware of, which is the frozen exemption, which is I bought my house in two thousand and four. When the frozen exemption was passed, my house is actually being taxed on the county tax portion. [0:25:05, 0:25:25]: At that 2004 rate. So it's frozen there on the county portion, not the school board portion. So folks should understand that portion, which is the 26%, is frozen at the rate that you bought your house at, not the school board side, which is the 60%. [0:25:25, 0:25:30]: So could you talk about that a little bit? Sure, and I'm glad you brought it up. The that frozen provision [0:25:31, 0:25:50]: that additional benefit to county residents countywide, and again for those in the city district jurisdiction as well, that equates to somewhere between forty-five and fifty million dollars of savings to residents. And to your point, what that simply means is that if you purchase your home in the year twenty ten, [0:25:50, 0:25:57]: And it was valued at that time at two hundred thousand. Fast forward to today, and that same home is valued at four hundred thousand. [0:25:58, 0:26:18]: You are still being taxed on your county portion at that$200,000 level. So again, you can see the exponential savings that that residents will see year over year from that frozen provision. And again, again, it does not apply to schools, to the school tax that 60%, but for that 26, 27%. [0:26:17, 0:26:31]: that Mr. Gardner spoke of. Um it's a substantial savings. You know, we see, you know, exemption amounts of, you know, well over$100,000 in some cases, depending on what the value was at the time they purchased versus the time what the values have gone on to right now. So [0:26:31, 0:26:36]: So for what the county may be concerned, again they haven't had their their public hearings yet. [0:26:36, 0:26:45]: But um for the past seven years the mill had stayed exactly the same. So the values that were increased while values increased over that span. [0:26:46, 0:26:49]: The tax amount on the county side did not. [0:26:49, 0:27:08]: Um so all those savings were coming back to the residents. However, it was a um the again the overall impact was upwards of forty-five to fifty million dollars of revenues that wouldn't otherwise have gone to county coffers for roads, services, police, fire and the like that did not, but there were savings that were realized by our citizens. [0:27:09, 0:27:10]: No. [0:27:10, 0:27:30]: And folks are looking probably with that quizzical look on their faces. Wait a minute, my property taxes have gone up a lot. But they went up a lot. Well basically, if you're an existing homeowner from the past, the sixty percent that went to the school facility is where the major impact was because they're set at twenty meals for [0:27:30, 0:27:50]: um for the base and then they're set at what three it was three point six three point six for a month. So that's twenty-three per twenty-three some odd meals going to the school system, which is sixty something percent of what we would have. So in essence, and I and I said this and I'm gonna [0:27:50, 0:28:08]: Close my statement by saying this. Every year, this room is full of citizens for the city portion, for last year and this year. 60% of your money is going to the school board side, and 26% is going to the county side. Yet [0:28:09, 0:28:29]: You know how many people showed up at the school board hearing last year? Three. I was one of them to speak out against those repeated tax increases that I knew was inflating my rate. Now, my my tax on a yearly basis is fifty-two hundred dollars. Thirty four hundred dollars of that goes to the school board, about eleven goes to the school. [0:28:29, 0:28:33]: goes to the county and then the rest comes to the city. [0:28:33, 0:28:34]: This room. [0:28:35, 0:28:55]: needs to transfer to those rooms because those boards are required to have three military hearings as ready or as well. So can you indicate when those meetings are so these residents can understand that sixty percent of their money is what the room they need to be in in addition to this room and twenty six percent. And last [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: [1737.4, 1755.0]: that uh uh that would they pass the budget already. That budget is going to require a millage rate increase. So if you need to be in those rooms talking about those issues where and there is a potential increase where we have indicated there is not going to be one here. [0:29:15, 0:29:35]: Sure. Um the Board of Education, they're scheduled for their adoption, millage adoption on Monday the twenty second at four thirty. I do wanna um point out they are proposing a decrease in their mills this year. Let's go of approximately one point six eight. So removing their bond millage from three point six down to two mills, which would be again a substantial impact on [0:29:35, 0:29:55]: on all of the citizens. Um also those that while they don't offer, they're they're not a part of the frozen provision, they do offer additional exemptions based on age, beginning at age 62, you start seeing your, you start having your reduction that increases at 65, 68, and by age 70 you no longer pay any any um school board taxes. [0:29:55, 0:30:02]: So their system is a little bit tiered a little bit differently. Right. Um, but there are exemptions certainly on the educational side as well. [0:30:03, 0:30:18]: And then finally they do who's not aware, they do uh slowly kind of bring that tax down to the age of seventy where it is then removed, correct? That's correct. For residents who might be here. Can you explain that? [0:30:19, 0:30:39]: Yeah, again at age sixty-two you can apply initially make your initial application for homestead exemption. Um and that would be an exemption solely off of the the taxes on your school taxes. Um it's a twenty thousand dollar it it's simply a reduction off your assessed value, so rather than being taxed at [0:30:38, 0:30:45]: a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, it would be taxed at one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Um so that exemption goes from twenty thousand at [0:30:45, 0:30:48]: Um age sixty two at sixty five it goes to eighty thousand. [0:30:49, 0:30:53]: At age sixty eight, it's a hundred and twenty thousand exemption. So you're [0:30:53, 0:31:08]: subtracting a hundred and twenty thousand dollars off your assessed value to give you a much lower taxable value. And again at age seventy, you're no longer paying any school taxes. So um we encourage at every opportunity we have to make sure that people are checking their exemptions. If you applied for your homestead [0:31:09, 0:31:13]: Um if you came in at age sixty two and once you make that initial application at age sixty two. [0:31:13, 0:31:17]: automatically gets recalculated when you hit sixty five and sixty eight and seventy. [0:31:17, 0:31:31]: If you applied for your L one and you haven't come in, if you're over age sixty-two and you haven't come in for that s specific age exemption, you have to come back into either our office or the tax assessor's office. Also you can do it online. Again, HenryCountyTax.com. [0:31:31, 0:31:32]: You go to our website. [0:31:32, 0:31:34]: applications right there is again very um [0:31:35, 0:31:35]: Very uh [0:31:36, 0:31:37]: User friendly. [0:31:37, 0:31:46]: Um but you have to make that secondary application for your age exemption one time. Once you do it at age sixty two, you're you're covered throughout the remainder of it. [0:31:46, 0:31:49]: But Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:31:50, 0:31:50]: Can you [0:31:51, 0:31:58]: Um, you gave the dates and times for the military adoption for the border education. What about Henry County? [0:31:58, 0:32:06]: Government. You have their dates. Yeah, Henry County government is currently their adoption is scheduled for Tuesday, July thirtieth at one PM. [0:32:07, 0:32:07]: Yeah. [0:32:09, 0:32:26]: All right, another question from the council. Thank you, Mr. Harris. Uh you may have depending on the questions and comments that the citizens may have, we may have to come back to the podium, but I don't he'd be willing to do that. Uh Senator excuse me, he's going to be a senator someday. Representative Mitchell's Douglas, sir, since you're here. Did you want the podium? Anything you want to address while you're here, sir, at all? [0:32:28, 0:32:47]: Okay, good deal. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. All right. For the public hearing. I'm for anybody's four. Recommendation is three point seven seven. So if you want to make a comments in reference to that, if you're from my far left side, I need you to line up. I'm line up on that side. anybody in the middle? Uh any po positive comments? Um [0:32:48, 0:32:57]: Could you online on on this side, please? If you want positive comments, we're recommendations three point seven seven for any positive could you line up on this side. I want you all on one side, please. On this side over here. [0:32:57, 0:33:00]: If you're in the middle, please go on the left side over my left side over here. [0:33:01, 0:33:03]: On the on far right side. [0:33:04, 0:33:10]: My far right side, if you need positive comments, comments for recommendation of three point seven seven leave for you. Come on this side over here, okay? [0:33:11, 0:33:13]: Alrighty. [0:33:13, 0:33:14]: All right. [0:33:15, 0:33:20]: All right, so let's get this started then. Ma'am, please come to the mic and uh name an ad uh name and address, please. [0:33:22, 0:33:42]: Uh good morning, Mayor. Good morning, uh council. Uh my name is Jocelyn Williams, one ninety Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, three oh two eight one. Want to thank you for the uh visual I can take back and explain to my family. I'm for the three point seven seven that uh helped me once again, new to the annexation. I'll be working with um [0:33:42, 0:34:02]: Um Henry County in the back asking them to help me get a full understanding of the uh 26% frozen. Uh and I heard him um say it's gonna increase um four point seven and I'll be at the meeting um on the thirtieth so I can get full understanding. Um my concern is [0:34:02, 0:34:21]: is just as a senior citizen working every time I come to the meeting getting phone numbers and addresses so I can visit. I now have two taxes, Henry County. I know they send one bill, if he could explain that I think one bill comes to me and I'll have to do my um trash. [0:34:22, 0:34:39]: For a stockbridge, I'll have to do Henry County tax and then I'll have to do Stockbridge. So uh I like the three point seven seven but just need a fuller understanding of how everything comes on one bill and how I'll be responsible for it. But I thank you so much for your kindness. [0:34:39, 0:34:42]: Thank you. Ma'am, you next. Name and address, please. [0:34:48, 0:34:58]: My name is Mary Scott. Nobody calls me Mary. Everyone calls me Bubba. I live at one twelve Creek Circle. If that sounds familiar, it's'cause I live next door to Karen Charmaine. [0:34:59, 0:35:05]: And I'm gonna tell you, I came here Monday night expecting to hear that the millage rate was gonna go up. [0:35:05, 0:35:12]: And what I'm hearing is that it was advertised to go up, but it's not really going up for me. [0:35:12, 0:35:28]: because of the growth of the city. From what I understand, in the churn there are fifty thousand new new houses that are in the process of being built, new neighborhoods and things like that that would bring fifty thousand new residents, maybe not households, but residents. [0:35:29, 0:35:35]: Which will help the city get uh the tax revenue that they need. Because you do need revenue. [0:35:35, 0:35:42]: Uh I had an incident that I had to call emergency services for a neighbor not too long ago and they showed up very quickly. [0:35:43, 0:35:47]: And I was pleased with that because that didn't happen when I used to live in DeCab County. [0:35:49, 0:35:51]: Um I've lived all over this country. [0:35:53, 0:35:58]: We chose t here to retire for a reason, because it was a small town. [0:35:58, 0:36:02]: After Monday night's meeting, though, I took a look at the budget. [0:36:02, 0:36:22]: And I uh would love to help Mrs. Barber do a deep dive into the budget because what I saw was kind of incomplete information for the residents. It may be different than the information that you have, but the year to date revenue that or an expenses [0:36:22, 0:36:29]: That I saw in 2023, which affected this year's budget, looked very incomplete. [0:36:30, 0:36:30]: Um [0:36:31, 0:36:41]: And I have a little bit of an accounting background and I know that year to date means something. And when you're in November, you need to have more numbers than you had. [0:36:42, 0:36:52]: So when November comes around and we're talking about the budget again, I'm gonna be back here and I'm gonna be making sure that you're spending my three point seven seven millage rate appropriately. [0:36:53, 0:37:00]: I have one thing to say that's not about the milling rate, and that is these meetings are not accessible. [0:37:00, 0:37:02]: We can't hear you. [0:37:02, 0:37:05]: We are everybody's going mm. [0:37:05, 0:37:09]: We can't hear. You introduced Mr. Harris. We didn't hear a word he said. [0:37:10, 0:37:12]: We can't hear mister Gardiner, said [0:37:13, 0:37:20]: Um we can't actually see the power points from our and I have my glasses on. I'm fifty-five. [0:37:20, 0:37:24]: The people that I see around me, I'm gonna guess are a little bit older. [0:37:25, 0:37:27]: We don't h I don't have a handout. [0:37:28, 0:37:38]: You know, I know somebody else did. I don't know where she got it. But a couple of pieces of paper, even that we could pass amongst ourselves.'Cause I know paper and ink and [0:37:38, 0:37:39]: Printing costs money. [0:37:40, 0:37:45]: But we can't hear what's going on back here. We can't see this and [0:37:47, 0:37:49]: This is uh we can't even hear you. [0:37:49, 0:38:09]: Well, okay, I'll tell you what. I'm I'm thought uh we're up here I've thought you can hear me but no problem I would have thought. Uh we we'll have to check in that particular mic where you're located,'cause that's the most individuals you were referring to were at that particular mic would have to check that out and we'll see ya for the next time, which we h we'll do this on Monday, in reference to maybe additional handouts for folks that are here. We'll work through that process. Thank you. [0:38:09, 0:38:18]: Thank you. Monday night someone pointed it out during the meeting and was shushed. That's kinda shameful. You were what now? [0:38:18, 0:38:32]: Monday night someone pointed out that she could not hear and she was shushed. That's because probably p probably it's probably me. It's probably because she was sta she was making a comment from the audience. It was all right. Stand by one second. Yes, Vanessa, go ahead, please. [0:38:35, 0:38:35]: Table. [0:38:37, 0:38:42]: Okay, there you go. I got here too early to get a handout. Okay, all right then. What other comments do you have, ma'am? [0:38:43, 0:38:47]: That is it. Okay. And I appreciate you listening to me. No problem. Thank you very much. [0:38:48, 0:38:49]: Ma'am, please name and address. [0:38:56, 0:39:08]: Good morning. Morning to you. Um my name is Regina. I hope you can hear me with the mask on. Yep, I can I can hear you. Okay. Um my name is Regina Ubadiniru. I live at two thirty Hillendale Drive. [0:39:10, 0:39:11]: And um [0:39:12, 0:39:15]: Wow, you took a lot of fire out of some things I wanted to say. [0:39:16, 0:39:17]: But um [0:39:18, 0:39:27]: I am um in favor of keeping a millage rate at three point seven seven because um [0:39:27, 0:39:35]: I don't know where this is going as far as going higher and higher. Um, I'm gonna try to be short because my my knee is killing me. [0:39:37, 0:39:50]: I also am in favor of a deeper dive being done into finances. Um some things just don't seem to be stacking up. I would also like to see um to add to that a independent investigation. [0:39:50, 0:39:54]: Um nothing personal, but it's just it's just not it's not making sense. [0:39:56, 0:40:03]: Um maybe others here are rich, but I'm not. And um I'm on a fixed income. [0:40:04, 0:40:14]: And this just um I'm just wondering, you know, where is it headed? It three seven seven going up to four point something and you where does it go from there? Um [0:40:20, 0:40:26]: I think that um city council is lacking transparency with regard to finances. I would like to see [0:40:27, 0:40:28]: Transparency. [0:40:29, 0:40:32]: on every level with the finances in particularly [0:40:32, 0:40:34]: Um otherwise um [0:40:35, 0:40:39]: You know, when time comes around maybe there sh there need to be other people in the seats up here. [0:40:41, 0:40:45]: And um I also want a second, please. [0:40:46, 0:40:50]: Either people speak louder or [0:40:50, 0:40:51]: Turn the mics up. [0:40:52, 0:40:55]: Because it's hard to hear. I couldn't read anything. [0:40:56, 0:41:03]: On the um on the PowerPoint, nothing at all. And um it seems that when people that are from um [0:41:05, 0:41:22]: Like the uh the gentlemen that were up here, it seems that they're addressing you only where we need to be addressed too, so they need to speak louder. And I would I'm in favor of handouts so that we can follow along in case we can't see the power points. [0:41:23, 0:41:25]: And I think um [0:41:26, 0:41:46]: I think that's about it that I have. Thank you for listening to make note of that that the public hearing rules indicate that the individuals speaking, they're really supposed to address me, not the council and not everybody else. You address me as as the individuals running the meeting and they should be loud enough so everybody can hear the comments from individual that is at that particular mic. We'll check make sure that mic is all right and folks uh understand. [0:41:46, 0:41:52]: [2516.6, 2525.3]: Good morning. My name is Suzette Wilkinson. I live at one eighty three Spivy Ridge Circle. Okay. I live in one of the annexed [0:42:05, 0:42:08]: neighborhoods into the city of Stockbridge. [0:42:08, 0:42:18]: So we already are paying an increase because now we're paying city taxes as well as county taxes. And then the notice I received [0:42:18, 0:42:38]: I was built this year$504 for city taxes on top of my county taxes. Plus, we will build$264 for trash on our tax bill. Now we could now you're going up again, and the notice I received said that if your house was valued at$300. [0:42:39, 0:42:59]: I believe it was$350,000. That's a$79 increase per year, on top of the$504 increase plus another$100 and something increase for the trash. As the lady stated, I'm on a fixed income. That's a lot for me in one year. [0:42:59, 0:43:00]: Yeah. [0:43:01, 0:43:09]: And w it was supposed to have been I had came once before, it was supposed to have been addressed about the trash, but no one ever got back to me about it. [0:43:10, 0:43:16]: It's it's a hardship for a lot of people in my subdivision. [0:43:16, 0:43:20]: It's we we're being hit kind of hard all in one year. [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: Thank you. Okay. [0:43:26, 0:43:46]: I'm taking note of this and we'll address these in just a bit. So that's four. Anybody that's against the three the recommended three point seven seven? Anybody against that? All right, from the far left, if you can line up. From the far left. Anybody against the three recommended three point seven seven? Anybody in the middle that's against the three point seven seven recommendation? Anybody on this side uh against the three point seven seven recommendation? [0:43:46, 0:43:55]: All right. Seeing none. All right. Mr Gardner, please come back to the podium. And uh Mr Harris, if you don't mind, could you come back as well, sir? [0:43:56, 0:43:57]: Wow. [0:44:00, 0:44:13]: All right, so f one of my first things I wrote down, I guess in a sense the the balance between Henry County tax and uh data and stubborn's tax data, the uh explanation of the bills, if you can maybe expound a little further on that for clarification, might be helpful. [0:44:14, 0:44:34]: All right, sir. And and please speak into the mic, sir, make sure it's on. This is good enough. I don't want to put it in my mouth. Okay. But no. Um the difference between the city and the question comes up that some folks are thinking that about the two different types of bills and taxes and trying to get a clarification of the [0:44:34, 0:44:45]: So as a resident of Stockbridge, um everyone pays taxes to [0:44:45, 0:44:53]: the school board to the city, now if you're in the city to unincorporated Henry County and to the water authority. [0:44:53, 0:44:56]: Um that bill and Michael could speak to it. [0:44:56, 0:45:00]: is one bill that comes to every homeowner and it's outline [0:45:00, 0:45:20]: who gets what what exemptions you have, it's outlined on the bill. Um as it relates for the city of Stockbridge, we we charge our sanitation on our tax bill. Um that start that started back in two thousand in seven or six [0:45:20, 0:45:32]: Um the city started doing that but because the city used to used to be able to pay your taxes at City Hall. And apparently there were some issues years ago where residents were being I think they were locked up. [0:45:33, 0:45:53]: um were being arrested for not paying that their sanitation bills. And so the city city moved to literally put it on the tax bill years ago and a lot of communities have done that. Um that way you have one payment rather than having a quarterly payment if you were doing somewhere else. Um you pretty much pay on a quarterly basis. Um [0:45:53, 0:46:10]: So that's the unified bill that you get with your tax and your sanitation. And so yes, you pay for city services. And I think as um Mr. Alexander said, um everyone in Henry County, including the cities, um, were unless you were the city of McDonough. [0:46:10, 0:46:13]: Locus Grove and Hampton that had their own police service. [0:46:13, 0:46:27]: Um, I'm not sure if they were exempt, but I think everybody was paying the one point oh nine. So that was being paid for um already and the one point eight six was added on top of that, and that's how you got to the three point seven seven number. [0:46:29, 0:46:33]: Only thing I would add, yeah, so there is a very clear distinction between [0:46:33, 0:46:35]: The taxes [0:46:35, 0:46:55]: And there are taxes and fees that are shown on the bill. You know, so what you will see is a county portion of the tax. And within that there are special service districts included as well. Um that would include fire, so citizens and residents of City of Stockbridge also pay a special service district tax. [0:46:55, 0:46:59]: to the county for providing that fire service. Um recreation is another one. [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: Um then separate aside from that, then you have your [0:47:02, 0:47:11]: city of Stockbridge tax. After that you have a series of fees and that may include sanitation, stormwater, street lights, if that's on the bill this year as well. [0:47:12, 0:47:17]: Um so for those things and w we make it very clear on our we've changed up our bill. Um [0:47:17, 0:47:19]: Uh, Miss Cardi and her team last year did a great job of [0:47:20, 0:47:40]: re redesigning our tax bill to make it very clear. So if you have a question in reference to your stormwater fees, there's a phone number to call. If you have a question in reference to city taxes, there's a phone number to call. For and same for um likewise for your your county taxes. But there is a distinction between those that are taxes and those that are fees. We have [0:47:40, 0:47:42]: Yeah, as Mr. Gardner's um stated. [0:47:42, 0:47:53]: took this step to make sure we consolidate everything onto one bill so everyone has all the information at one at their fingertips. The bill you'll see this year, it'll have the bill with all the what's due. [0:47:53, 0:47:55]: On the front side, on the back side. [0:47:55, 0:47:58]: Rather than having just a blank space, we added a um [0:47:59, 0:48:01]: An entire sheet of information. [0:48:01, 0:48:21]: That speaks to the type of homestead exemptions that are allowable and gives all the j general information on who to call, how to contact, if and it answers a lot of the FAQs that of the questions that we get specific to our tax bill. So um again, we redesigned it last year and we think it's been uh got a lot of good um feedback on the information. [0:48:21, 0:48:22]: Yeah. [0:48:23, 0:48:43]: Thank you, sir. On that note, uh South Bridge is roughly about thirty six thousand people and of course during the course of we've been we collectively as a group, as a council have been improving some communities, annexations um have been going on here in the last several years and planning to continue to grow and and get s larger, I guess you may say. So who knows? fifty three [0:48:43, 0:48:50]: thousand people may come several years from now if if if we continue this pace. But I don't know, Mr. Gardner, anything you can expound on that at all, sir? [0:48:51, 0:48:55]: About the growth, um, I will say that I think like the resident said [0:48:56, 0:48:58]: Uh most of us move here from somewhere else. [0:48:59, 0:49:03]: Um we made Stockbridge home. We were part of the growth. [0:49:03, 0:49:04]: In Henry County. [0:49:05, 0:49:05]: Right. [0:49:06, 0:49:15]: Um, I always play a trick with with folks and I ask, does anybody know when there were more people living in the city of Griffin than in the entire Henry County? How long ago was that? [0:49:16, 0:49:17]: That was nineteen seventy. [0:49:18, 0:49:26]: And Griffin's population has always been around twenty-four, twenty-three thousand people. So there were less than twenty-three thousand people living in this entire county. [0:49:27, 0:49:27]: Right. [0:49:28, 0:49:29]: About forty years ago. [0:49:29, 0:49:36]: So everybody who's moved here has contributed to the growth, has contributed to the growth in the schools and the growth in development. [0:49:36, 0:49:39]: And we continue to grow as a county and as a sity. [0:49:39, 0:49:40]: Um [0:49:40, 0:50:00]: All right, and all of us are have taking part in um the growth. We will continue we're continuing to grow as you guys know. There are developments being approved. Um, but if those developments weren't approved, none of us would be here. We would be somewhere else. Right? Um, but Henry County is a prime location, 675. [0:50:00, 0:50:08]: 75 split right here. We're less than 10 miles from Hotfield Jackson International Airport, the busiest airport in the world. [0:50:09, 0:50:12]: Um we are part of the biggest metropolitan [0:50:12, 0:50:32]: productive metropolitan area in the southeast United States. And that still will hold us ahead of Charlotte. Um but that's where we choose to live and a lot of folks see this as a wonderful place. We don't have a lot of storms, hurricanes and tornadoes per se. So or earthqu earthquakes. So we are a prime location. Um [0:50:32, 0:50:39]: Um for folks to move to in the southeast. And so the city and the county will continue to grow in the forf foreseeable future and we have to prepare for that growth. [0:50:40, 0:50:56]: Okay, Mr. Gardner, how about um further explan uh give an explanation in reference to our our calendar year versus our budget year, which is the same same there? Budget process, things of that nature for some clarification here, sir. So our budget is adopted um [0:50:56, 0:51:00]: is on a calendar year which starts January to December. [0:51:00, 0:51:01]: Right. [0:51:01, 0:51:04]: Every community that I've worked in and the few states I've worked in. [0:51:04, 0:51:07]: Um if they're on a fiscal year. [0:51:07, 0:51:21]: They budget starts July one. That's the county. Um their budget starts July one and June thirtieth. But when they adopt that budget, they have no clue to some degree, it's a guess of what the millet rate [0:51:21, 0:51:25]: uh what the military they're gonna say to that or will it be you know go to go through [0:51:26, 0:51:27]: Um the dates [0:51:28, 0:51:32]: Um correct me if I'm wrong, Michael, the July date is statutory by state law. [0:51:33, 0:51:35]: Right? We have no control over that date. [0:51:36, 0:51:42]: Right. The good in us is that we adopt our budget, restart our budget two months earlier. [0:51:43, 0:51:43]: Right. [0:51:43, 0:51:46]: Usually folks start a budget six months out. [0:51:47, 0:51:48]: Right. And they start working on it. [0:51:49, 0:52:09]: Retend to or since I've been here, give you a budget in August. Actually, last year y'all got a full budget in July. Right? Um, right after we knew what the millish rate was gonna be, could then you can now look at tweaking your expenses to what you know what your revenues will be versus then guessing it to some degree. And there's still some guessing there because [0:52:09, 0:52:11]: Yeah. [0:52:11, 0:52:13]: Right, so it's not gonna be a full one hundred percent. [0:52:14, 0:52:34]: But that's the good that's the good in the process we have is that we can start making the adjustments as necessary. But we give a preliminary budget. And the budget is not for this year, it's for next year. Um but yes, um that's the the kind of benefit we have. I think Hampton is October. I think their budget is adopted in October. [0:52:34, 0:52:43]: October I think it is. They're on our October budget, kinda like the federal government. Um, McDonough is June June to July and I think Locus Grove is June to July. [0:52:44, 0:52:55]: All right, thank you. All right. Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead. You got the questions? Go ahead. Yeah, I could this is what I wanna do. I I wanna respond to your question, ma'am. I do Mr Aaron, can you come to the podium? [0:53:05, 0:53:21]: As the tax commissioner said, the sanitation is a fee. It is not uh a tax. Certainly, we implemented um sanitation services several years ago, which include trash, recycling, and bulk pickup, correct? [0:53:21, 0:53:41]: Yes, sir. And yard waste as well. And yard waste as well. Now, if someone went on the open market and they tried to get the rate that we get from GFL, would they be able to get it as an individual homeowner? Not for all of the uh things that they pick up. Most people, if they had a lower rate, they just only had garbage. They didn't have a lot of [0:53:41, 0:53:47]: people on the independent market do not have bulk waste recycling or yard waste as part of their sanitation package. [0:53:47, 0:54:07]: Right. And we've been able to get a basically w our rate is lower because we're a bulk, we're a collective working together. So the rate that we get is a lower rate than the consumer would be able to get and the rate increases that the consumers have been seeing, the exponential ones, we haven't been seeing those. We've seen some increases but we have not [0:54:07, 0:54:21]: and we have not passed them directly along to the consumer. A couple of years I know you said yourself we can't keep absorbing these increases cause we absorb the increases as the city. Is that correct? [0:54:21, 0:54:39]: Yes, most sanitation companies have an increase based on the CPI, which is the consumer price index. So whenever that increases, most companies typically go along with that increase. Like last year was five percent. And so most sanitation services, including [0:54:39, 0:54:59]: GFAL to the city increased their rates by five percent, but we did not increase our rates. Absolutely, and certainly this council has tried to tighten our belt uh in those areas. But certainly, uh hopefully we're trying to leave the planet in a better situation so we implemented the recycling. I hope everybody out there is trying to take advantage of. [0:54:59, 0:55:19]: Of the bi or weekly recyc recycling to keep uh extra bottles and plastics outside of our dumpster area. But the one area that people generally miss is the free bulk pickup. Talk about that. That is a component where you don't have to call somebody to come pick up that old mattress or to pick up [0:55:19, 0:55:39]: Up uh some items you can actually call and schedule a pickup by GFL and it's uh a complementary based on the city, correct? Yes, sir. Uh it allows each residence to put out up to three items per week for collection, and I think a lot of people like it when they come to like spring and fall cleaning that they can clean out the garage. [0:55:39, 0:55:59]: Garage or home and items. Also, there's an option if you want to collect everything at one time, you pay GFL a fee for that. But typically it's three items per week. And you could do multiple weeks. We have residents call in, they might have 15 items, so we schedule them for five weeks. [0:55:59, 0:56:02]: Every week until all of that is gone, they put out those items. [0:56:03, 0:56:13]: Absolutely. And her and Mayor's secondary question was, uh everything happening in all one year? And the tax commissioner made an excellent point previously. [0:56:14, 0:56:34]: If what the county has proposed is passed, then what would happen is you would actually have been paying more taxes this year had we not implemented the police department and the extra services that you're receiving on uh sanitation. So it is fortunate that we did. [0:56:34, 0:56:54]: Do what we did because that 3.77 is lower than what would have occurred otherwise. So it's actually based on the numbers that we were given today, were actually lower, your taxes will actually be lower in this scenario versus if you had not been uh annexed into the city because they were uh that that [0:56:54, 0:57:14]: That rate is going to go up uh if that uh does pass based on what we have seen in terms of these numbers. Uh thank you, Mr. Aaron, I appreciate that. Now, the city manager, I have a couple of questions for you as well. The city of Stockbridge has a yearly audit that takes place. [0:57:14, 0:57:34]: Every year. Our auditor is Malden and Jenkins. Malden Jenkins edit audits the city finances. They give you a report for the city finances, which you turn over to the council. That has been the practice. Our auditor, auditor Malden and Jenkins, audits 300 plus cities in the state of Georgia. [0:57:34, 0:57:54]: Georgia, we were one of those, and has significantly indicated to us certainly that the city's finances were uh uh in in good shape. Certainly, and I'll say this to you residents, and I'll look every one of y'all in the eye. The city wasn't spending enough money in the past, and that's why it looked the way that you [0:57:54, 0:58:14]: see on North Henry Boulevard. We started to spend more money. I hope you see the difference. I hope you see the difference in what your downtown area looks like. I hope you see the difference in what Rock Quarry Road looks like, what Jodico looks like, what Highway 138 looks like, when the litter is picked up and the city has done [0:58:14, 0:58:34]: to implement the programs that we've implemented like at Jodico, the amphitheater that we built, we have spent money because we knew that the residents wanted better in their community. So you would not have to leave the city to shop, to work, to eat. All of those things, some of those things should have been right here in our community. [0:58:34, 0:58:40]: We're not gonna bring them all here, but certainly we wanted to live and have a higher quality of life. [0:58:41, 0:59:01]: The one thing that we got in the report that we received said the in this general area in downtown, the average age of the homes were built in 1966. I said that again. The average age of the homes built were in 1966. The lifeblood of any community is new construction. [0:59:01, 0:59:21]: And to bring in folks in order to uh in in order to and raise our level of maintenance in the city, we did have to spend more money. We brought in Mr. Knighton first and then we brought in Mr. Gartner, two excellent seasoned city managers to be able to chart the course for us because we don't manage [0:59:20, 0:59:40]: day-to-day operations the staff does as professionals. Now certainly there's always a case to be made where there is there may be some waste or there may be some things that might need be need to be able to be cut. But let me say I have full confidence in the city manager and the job that they're doing in our financials. [0:59:40, 1:00:00]: Because they do what's necessary. And then when Malden and Jenkin comes and they report to us on what the city budget looks like, there are people all over this state who are envious of the position that we find ourselves in financially and the being able to do the things that we've been able to do. So I stand behind the offer. [1:00:00, 1:00:20]: audit and I certainly protest that there's a lot of misinformation and there's a lot of questions being raised about this or that. You know, I look at it when I turn to that other cable news channel and all I hear is a bunch of questions all the time. I haven't seen anybody point to a specific thing that says this has been [1:00:20, 1:00:40]: Misappropriated, that's been misappropriated, or one cent has been spent in any direction. If it is, I'll open my eyes to it, I'll see it. But I look at the city audit, and the auditor comes in and places a stamp on the city budget every single year. They know anything that is of obsession, and that is the process. [1:00:40, 1:00:58]: that we have followed as a city. That is something that I want the residents to understand is that we go through that process. And Mr Mr. Gardner, I want you to mention, talk about that in the uh audit process for the city that we go through every single year. [1:00:59, 1:01:15]: Yes, sir. Um you pretty much said everything. Um the audit every city um is required to have an annual independent audit, which the city of Stockbridge participates in. Um when Michael was here, I think Molden and Jenkins was here as well. [1:01:15, 1:01:17]: When Michael was here, city manager. [1:01:17, 1:01:20]: Um it is a process that all the cities go through. [1:01:21, 1:01:22]: Um [1:01:22, 1:01:28]: as it relates to overseeing how um revenues and expenditures are taken in and and expended. [1:01:28, 1:01:30]: And to make sure that they're all done in [1:01:30, 1:01:33]: in concurrent with gap [1:01:33, 1:01:36]: And I think that name has changed now, um, policies. [1:01:37, 1:01:40]: And at the end they they give you uh [1:01:40, 1:01:45]: areas where you can make changes and that's every city that pretty much gets um [1:01:45, 1:01:48]: they'll get what we call a ding to change certain things you're doing. [1:01:49, 1:01:50]: Um [1:01:50, 1:02:01]: But at the end I I think the city's audits have all been found to be worthy and clean outside of that. Um yes, the city had a huge fund balance and you guys came in. [1:02:02, 1:02:05]: Some folks say you shouldn't hoard beyond three months. [1:02:06, 1:02:06]: Um [1:02:07, 1:02:09]: I think the city had at the time probably. [1:02:10, 1:02:17]: Two years worth of violence. They were just sitting in sitting there and obviously you guys have built things around the downtown area. [1:02:17, 1:02:20]: Um to bring some things into the to fruition here. [1:02:21, 1:02:23]: Um, but as you can tell, I mean [1:02:23, 1:02:25]: The downtown is still not where it should be. [1:02:26, 1:02:26]: I mean [1:02:27, 1:02:35]: That's that's the dune it hole in this community. If you go to McDonough, you see growth all around McDonough, but you see growth in its downtown. [1:02:35, 1:02:37]: Everybody goes to the square to have fun. [1:02:38, 1:02:39]: Nobody comes here to have fun. [1:02:40, 1:02:43]: Right. I've lived here for twenty four years, almost twenty-five. [1:02:43, 1:02:46]: There's never been a place for me to come downtown to enjoy. [1:02:47, 1:02:49]: If I wanted, I went to somebody else's downtown. [1:02:50, 1:02:51]: Um [1:02:51, 1:02:56]: Чиказ нахіє, со інодес аб'ен. [1:02:56, 1:02:58]: To try to bring life down here. [1:02:59, 1:03:04]: Um, as I mentioned to this council, the problem is the we're missing the private sector. [1:03:04, 1:03:23]: Right. If you go to Dunwoody, if you go to D Cater, if you go to Sugar Hill, if you go to Swanney, Smyrna, any of these other communities, you see that there's private investments coming into their downtown to help build and revitalize. That also helps you from a fiscal standpoint, right? [1:03:24, 1:03:34]: Um one of the other things that that report said was the housing in our downtown area are below not only Henry County in value, but below the state in value. [1:03:35, 1:03:35]: Right. [1:03:36, 1:03:40]: So a house of twenty one ta twenty one hundred сквер фут. [1:03:41, 1:03:44]: On a acre and a half is only valued at a hundred and [1:03:44, 1:03:45]: Eighty. [1:03:46, 1:03:47]: Two hundred thousand. [1:03:48, 1:03:52]: But you take that same house and you put it on Nordroot Hills, it's a miljon dollar house. [1:03:53, 1:03:55]: So that tells you something. [1:03:55, 1:03:56]: Right. [1:03:56, 1:03:58]: The the house is underperforming. [1:03:58, 1:04:06]: Um the area is underperforming and that's been the area not downtown. But as you mentioned, everything you said is is is true. [1:04:07, 1:04:27]: And lastly, again, let's I just want you to make sure you state that again. For the record, the audit for the city for this last calendar year was uh it was a good audit. And as it has been uh the since I've been on this council, I don't think we've had a bad audit to my recollection. [1:04:27, 1:04:32]: section uh or do you recall one or just your state your tenure here the audit has been good. [1:04:33, 1:04:41]: Yes, sir. And no different than any other audits. Like I said, you're gonna get comments. Every city's gotten comments. I think with Mike here they probably had comments as well. [1:04:41, 1:04:43]: Um you're gonna get those, but [1:04:43, 1:04:48]: Um for the most part it says everything is good. Um [1:04:49, 1:04:58]: I don't know of any theories or underhanded or illegal stuff going on. That's not happening here. Um I'm not an illegal person. I've been doing this job [1:04:58, 1:05:04]: for thirty years and I've never been found guilty of stealing money or misappropriating any money. I I don't do that. [1:05:04, 1:05:05]: Um [1:05:06, 1:05:13]: But no. Everything, you know, can we make improvements in everything we do? That's everybody. [1:05:14, 1:05:21]: Right? There is no perfect person. There is no perfect thing. I always tell folks the smartest people in this country is NASA. [1:05:22, 1:05:24]: And we didn't kill two shuttles worth of astronauts. [1:05:25, 1:05:26]: Right? No one's perfect. [1:05:27, 1:05:43]: But yes, we all have room for improvements and some of the comments made, yes. We c we can look at things different, look at things with a different set of eyes. Yes, you'll find anybody'll find improvements in anything we do. Somebody else look at it, they can find improvements. That's just natural. [1:05:43, 1:05:44]: cause of action. [1:05:45, 1:05:50]: But on the basis of our audits have been clear um been clear, considered clear. [1:05:50, 1:05:54]: But there have been areas where we can make improvements. That has been the case. [1:05:54, 1:05:55]: We're not perfect. [1:05:55, 1:06:15]: Right, sir. I'll say thank you for that. And again, I appreciate your comments and that we look forward to the twenty twenty five budget being presented to us. And I would ask that you would do as as been as been described, that you would look at the budget as you already do and take a deeper dive uh as you prepare the twenty twenty-five budget. [1:06:15, 1:06:18]: budget and prepare us to finish this year. [1:06:18, 1:06:27]: Yes, sir. And and realize we will be having our budget retreat next month. So council gets to see it and weigh in on it, give recommendations as you guys did last year. [1:06:28, 1:06:28]: Um [1:06:29, 1:06:35]: On the budget and so from there, once we get your comments and feedback and your discussions with the department heads [1:06:35, 1:06:44]: we'll go back and make those adjustments as necessary. Um what you have before you and the numbers is is like I said, on there it is preliminary. [1:06:45, 1:06:48]: because we still have to go through that process with with May and Council. [1:06:48, 1:07:08]: Thank you. Thank you for your comments. And Mr. Harris, thank you for being my my first city manager and the city manager, a great successful city manager for City Stobbery some years ago. Well go ahead, so you have a comment. Yeah, just real quick, I just want to clarify it in reference to the what's being proposed by the county, that is a what's proposed. Nothing has been determined as of yet. Again, they'll make the [1:07:08, 1:07:22]: Final adoption on the thirtieth. So again, those are some of the figures that have been that have been circulated, but nothing has been solidified as of yet. They have not made a vote and made a final determination on any of those millage rates as of yet. Okay, good deal. Thank you. Ms. Barber, you have some comments? [1:07:27, 1:07:35]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. You're welcome. Um these are actually comments and not questions. So yes. [1:07:35, 1:07:38]: Um as a member of the governing body [1:07:38, 1:07:43]: I've been asking a lot of questions as it pertains to the finances of the city. [1:07:44, 1:07:45]: Seems like I'm the only one. [1:07:45, 1:07:47]: Asking the questions. [1:07:48, 1:07:52]: The reason why is because timing is important. [1:07:53, 1:07:57]: When information is being shared with members of the governing body. [1:07:58, 1:08:01]: Um it was mentioned that the council received [1:08:01, 1:08:04]: The FY twenty twenty four budget [1:08:04, 1:08:06]: Six months before it was adopted. [1:08:07, 1:08:08]: That is true. [1:08:09, 1:08:10]: But what I asked for [1:08:10, 1:08:11]: In twenty twenty three. [1:08:12, 1:08:14]: was a mid year budget review. [1:08:14, 1:08:16]: of the current year's budget. [1:08:17, 1:08:18]: Not [1:08:19, 1:08:20]: The next year's budget. [1:08:21, 1:08:27]: I want to be able to see how we're actually spending. What's the spending trends? [1:08:28, 1:08:29]: Are we being [1:08:29, 1:08:31]: Fiscally responsible. [1:08:32, 1:08:33]: That is the responsibility. [1:08:33, 1:08:35]: of the governing body. [1:08:35, 1:08:36]: ста [1:08:36, 1:08:38]: are hired to do a job. [1:08:39, 1:08:40]: We were elected. [1:08:40, 1:08:42]: To represent the people. [1:08:42, 1:08:44]: in the interest of the people. [1:08:45, 1:08:47]: So when I'm asking these questions. [1:08:47, 1:08:49]: They're just not questions that [1:08:49, 1:08:51]: I'm just asking for myself. [1:08:51, 1:08:53]: А вон би алту експлен. [1:08:54, 1:08:55]: This information [1:08:55, 1:08:56]: To the public. [1:08:56, 1:08:57]: To the residents. [1:08:58, 1:09:00]: So when I wanna look at the actuals [1:09:01, 1:09:03]: What our spending trends are. [1:09:03, 1:09:12]: If we're um spending more in one department than the other, if we're not spending enough in certain areas. [1:09:12, 1:09:13]: I wanna see [1:09:13, 1:09:15]: Where those [1:09:15, 1:09:16]: The adjustments. [1:09:17, 1:09:20]: The amendments to our current year budgets [1:09:20, 1:09:22]: should be presented. [1:09:23, 1:09:24]: During our public meetings. [1:09:24, 1:09:25]: But they're not. [1:09:26, 1:09:30]: We should be able to look at the budget right now online. [1:09:30, 1:09:35]: and see where we are with our spending with all of the departments. [1:09:36, 1:09:38]: The city spent well over a hundred and thirty. [1:09:39, 1:09:42]: twenty thousand dollars on open gov. [1:09:42, 1:09:45]: It was a software program. [1:09:45, 1:09:46]: Where the public [1:09:46, 1:09:49]: Кудсі релів транзакція. [1:09:49, 1:09:51]: Well that software is not up. [1:09:52, 1:09:53]: It's not available. [1:09:53, 1:09:56]: It has not been rolled out for the public to see. [1:09:56, 1:09:59]: So until then I'm going to continue. [1:09:59, 1:10:02]: asking questions regarding the finances of the city. [1:10:03, 1:10:04]: Absolutely. [1:10:05, 1:10:12]: Just two months ago, I asked for a mid-year budget review for this year's budget. [1:10:13, 1:10:13]: Well [1:10:13, 1:10:15]: It was supposed to happen in June. [1:10:16, 1:10:17]: It didn't happen in June. [1:10:18, 1:10:19]: So now it would be [1:10:20, 1:10:26]: The mid-year budget review for twenty twenty four will be presented to the council during our work session. [1:10:26, 1:10:27]: In July. [1:10:28, 1:10:29]: That's the week after. [1:10:29, 1:10:33]: The council approves and adopts this millagerate. [1:10:34, 1:10:40]: That defeats the whole purpose of me asking to review our current year's budget. [1:10:41, 1:10:45]: So you see I'm just not asking these questions just to um [1:10:46, 1:10:47]: Make things difficult. [1:10:47, 1:10:49]: or complicated for anybody. [1:10:49, 1:10:53]: In fact, I'm trying to make it easy for us to make decisions here. [1:10:53, 1:10:56]: I want to be able to justify my vote. [1:10:57, 1:10:59]: And I don't feel like I can. [1:10:59, 1:11:07]: Because I don't know where we are spending wise with the three point seven seven millage rate that we currently have. [1:11:08, 1:11:09]: I don't know. [1:11:09, 1:11:12]: If the three point seven seven is enough [1:11:12, 1:11:14]: I don't know if [1:11:15, 1:11:16]: There is waste. [1:11:16, 1:11:24]: um wasteful spending in certain areas where we may be able to move money to other areas. I don't know any of that. [1:11:25, 1:11:25]: But I should know. [1:11:26, 1:11:28]: Every member of this governing body [1:11:29, 1:11:30]: has a responsibility. [1:11:31, 1:11:33]: Of ensuring that there is no waste. [1:11:33, 1:11:34]: Fraud. [1:11:34, 1:11:35]: Or abuse. [1:11:36, 1:11:39]: I'm not the newest member of this governing body anymore. [1:11:40, 1:11:41]: But I've been very vocal. [1:11:41, 1:11:45]: About being transparent, about the way we govern. [1:11:45, 1:11:47]: And the way we do business. [1:11:48, 1:11:49]: When you have nothing to hide. [1:11:50, 1:11:51]: You hide nothing. [1:11:51, 1:11:54]: If you go on the city's website right now. [1:11:54, 1:11:57]: And you look at the current year's budget. [1:11:57, 1:12:02]: versus the actual spending in twenty twenty three isn't complete. [1:12:03, 1:12:05]: In fact, the council adopted. [1:12:05, 1:12:08]: This year's budget without seeing [1:12:08, 1:12:11]: The full actuals from twenty twenty three. [1:12:12, 1:12:18]: It's the reason why and I can't remember if I abstained or I opposed approving the budget. [1:12:19, 1:12:23]: I asked for the actuals, I need to see where we are. [1:12:24, 1:12:25]: I'm the only one asking. [1:12:26, 1:12:31]: And the council takes a position of if there are not three people [1:12:31, 1:12:34]: Who are in favor of [1:12:35, 1:12:36]: A suggestion or idea? [1:12:36, 1:12:38]: The staff doesn't move on it. [1:12:38, 1:12:40]: So it just leaves me. [1:12:40, 1:12:42]: Asking the questions. [1:12:42, 1:12:44]: While everybody else is silent. [1:12:47, 1:12:51]: You all need to hold your elected officials accountable. [1:12:51, 1:12:53]: For the decisions that they're making. [1:12:54, 1:12:58]: as as it pertains to the independent audit. [1:12:59, 1:13:01]: Since I was sworn in in twenty twenty. [1:13:02, 1:13:04]: We have received [1:13:04, 1:13:07]: A presentation from the auditing firm [1:13:07, 1:13:11]: Every July or August of every year. [1:13:12, 1:13:14]: their observations are in [1:13:15, 1:13:18]: um review of the previous years. [1:13:18, 1:13:19]: Budget. [1:13:19, 1:13:20]: And financials. [1:13:21, 1:13:22]: So this year [1:13:22, 1:13:23]: The auditor. [1:13:24, 1:13:25]: We'll be reviewing [1:13:26, 1:13:28]: the budget and actuals. [1:13:28, 1:13:30]: And the finances from twenty twenty three. [1:13:32, 1:13:33]: When they come before us. [1:13:34, 1:13:34]: Um [1:13:34, 1:13:35]: I'm expecting [1:13:36, 1:13:39]: that they will be sharing all of the [1:13:39, 1:13:39]: Um [1:13:40, 1:13:41]: Findings from their audit. [1:13:42, 1:13:43]: And [1:13:43, 1:13:45]: Providing corrective actions. [1:13:45, 1:13:47]: That's what I'm expecting. [1:13:47, 1:13:48]: Last year [1:13:48, 1:13:49]: We didn't get that. [1:13:50, 1:13:52]: Диспойт мі аскін. [1:13:53, 1:13:53]: More [1:13:54, 1:13:56]: Almost twenty times. [1:13:57, 1:13:58]: My requests [1:13:58, 1:14:06]: To staff since July of twenty twenty three. My request to my councilmates, the entire [1:14:06, 1:14:07]: Governing body. [1:14:08, 1:14:09]: Telling them. [1:14:10, 1:14:12]: We need to see the independent audit results. [1:14:12, 1:14:14]: Ever since I've been here in twenty twenty. [1:14:15, 1:14:17]: The auditor has come before the council. [1:14:18, 1:14:19]: Why are they delayed? [1:14:21, 1:14:22]: This was last year. [1:14:23, 1:14:23]: Well [1:14:24, 1:14:30]: The council finally received the independent audit results from the twenty twenty two. [1:14:31, 1:14:31]: Audit. [1:14:33, 1:14:34]: In April. [1:14:35, 1:14:35]: Of this year. [1:14:38, 1:14:46]: I'm afraid we're on the same track of receiving the independent audit results from the 2023 financials. [1:14:48, 1:14:49]: They're being delayed. [1:14:49, 1:14:50]: Two. [1:14:51, 1:14:53]: So it's these kinds of politrics. [1:14:53, 1:14:55]: I don't like to play. [1:14:55, 1:14:57]: This is not just [1:14:57, 1:14:58]: Our money. [1:14:59, 1:15:00]: It's the residence money. [1:15:02, 1:15:05]: I want to make sure that they are comfortable. [1:15:05, 1:15:07]: With the decisions that are being made here. [1:15:08, 1:15:11]: It keeps being mentioned that the [1:15:11, 1:15:14]: Tax was imposed to help [1:15:14, 1:15:16]: Fund the police department. [1:15:16, 1:15:18]: Some of that may be true. [1:15:19, 1:15:20]: But we have another [1:15:21, 1:15:21]: Capital. [1:15:22, 1:15:22]: Expenditure. [1:15:23, 1:15:24]: That is awesome. [1:15:25, 1:15:26]: Using [1:15:26, 1:15:27]: This city tax. [1:15:28, 1:15:29]: That's the amphitheater. [1:15:29, 1:15:31]: To fund the amphitheater. [1:15:31, 1:15:32]: That [1:15:32, 1:15:40]: None of us, well at least I'm not, receiving monthly profit and loss statements. So I can't tell you where we are. [1:15:41, 1:15:44]: Where we are with our spending of the amphitheatre. [1:15:44, 1:15:48]: I do know what was budgeted for it in twenty twenty three. [1:15:48, 1:15:50]: And twenty twenty four. [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: Two million dollars was budgeted for it. [1:15:53, 1:15:54]: Did we go over? [1:15:54, 1:15:55]: Yes. [1:15:55, 1:15:57]: How much exactly? [1:15:57, 1:15:57]: I don't know. [1:15:59, 1:16:00]: I don't know. [1:16:00, 1:16:02]: Staff is not speaking to it. [1:16:02, 1:16:06]: Which is why I've asked that we do a deeper dive. [1:16:07, 1:16:08]: That is what I was expecting. [1:16:09, 1:16:12]: If we're talking about adopting a military [1:16:12, 1:16:20]: I don't know if we can if there's an opportunity for us to even decrease or reduce the current military. [1:16:20, 1:16:22]: Because all the information [1:16:22, 1:16:23]: Is that being provided? [1:16:24, 1:16:26]: I want to put this all on record. [1:16:26, 1:16:27]: Because Calm. [1:16:27, 1:16:29]: Alexander seemed to be [1:16:29, 1:16:34]: Pointing out a lot of the questions that I've been asking via emails. [1:16:34, 1:16:36]: And public meetings. [1:16:37, 1:16:38]: Um [1:16:39, 1:16:41]: I'm expecting the mid year budget review. [1:16:42, 1:16:43]: Uh [1:16:43, 1:16:44]: This year's budget. [1:16:44, 1:16:45]: So I can see [1:16:46, 1:16:48]: What our spinning habits and trends are. [1:16:48, 1:16:51]: If there are adjustments to be made, there are [1:16:52, 1:16:53]: We need to make them. [1:16:54, 1:16:56]: Staff are hired to do a job. [1:16:57, 1:16:58]: The governing body [1:16:58, 1:17:01]: We're the ones who are driving this ship. [1:17:02, 1:17:02]: Not staff. [1:17:09, 1:17:18]: I wanted to ask Mr. Aaron, um, is the senior discount program for the sanitation, is that still being offered? [1:17:30, 1:17:50]: Uh, Councilman Barber, yes, that's being offered as long as they meet the requirements. They meet the age and income requirements they had until May thirty first to get their information in for the FY 2023 tax year in order to receive the sanitation discount. Those that meet the requirement gets a s get a seventy five percent. [1:17:50, 1:17:52]: five percent reduction on their sanitation fees. [1:17:52, 1:17:53]: Thank you, sir. [1:18:02, 1:18:04]: Thank you, Mayor. You're welcome. [1:18:04, 1:18:07]: Mr. Baird, did you have any comments before we close out at all? [1:18:07, 1:18:08]: Just really quickly. [1:18:09, 1:18:29]: Uh thank you guys again for coming out and uh asking the questions that you have. It is your civic writing responsibility, so I want to continue to encourage you to do so. I do want to point out some facts that were stated today that will be beneficial to the citizens over the course of the next few months. Uh it was earlier stated in November the fifth, Tuesday, 2024, there will be [1:18:29, 1:18:45]: be a vote on record for a city exemption for the first time. So please be reminded of that and also notify and extend that message to your neighbors. Not everyone has a chance to come to these meetings and get that information. So knowledge is power. Please share that. [1:18:45, 1:18:57]: Uh in addition to that, wanna thank Tax Commissioner Michael Harris for coming out today. I appreciate his information and the knowledge that he shared regarding the county uh tax assessments as well as the uh school board, board of education. [1:18:58, 1:19:18]: Also wanted to point out that the millage rate for the city is not increasing, but it does appear to be represented as the three point seven seven, which is the same as it was before. And so I know there is a lot of misinformation going on around a increase. So there uh there is information regarding that. Also want to mark the dates for the Board of Education as well as the [1:19:18, 1:19:38]: Henry County adoption of their tax millage rates are both on July the thirtieth, one at one PM and one at four PM. So please mark your calendars for that as well. It's important to be at those meetings as well. And then one final note comment is that uh the city tax we actually have saved because had we not [1:19:38, 1:19:53]: and adopt adopted the police department, uh, we would have seen an increase of one point nine to four point seven. And so that is no longer the case. I did want to point that summarized note for everyone who didn't get a chance to take notes and wanted to know what was the uh briefing for today. So just wanna run down that. [1:19:53, 1:20:12]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. And once again, ladies and gentlemen, uh the uh third and last uh public hearing will be Monday, July twenty second, ten AM. And at at the end of that or conclusion of that particular meeting, that's when the council will vote on the recommendation of three point seven seven. On that note, uh late uh council yes sir. [1:20:13, 1:20:25]: Ladies and gentlemen, you know we got a special day today. The Mayor Pro Tem is here on his birthday today. All right, happy birthday, Mayor Pro Tem Carl Berry. Happy birthday, brother. [1:20:25, 1:20:42]: Thanks everybody. Appreciate that. On that note, uh council need a motion to end our meeting, please. Slow move. Is there a second? Second. Okay. Mr. Barrett. I'll give it to Mr. Barrett from Alexander Barrett. All in favor, please indicate. All right, we are now adjourned. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. God bless you all.