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--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-06-10 source: 2024-06-10_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:26, 0:00:46]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, good evening to you. Um what we have going on now will be our ceremonial type of uh part of our council meeting for today. And the first thing I'd like to do is uh I'll have some recognition for city employees. So uh Ms. Smith Sellers, could you come forward please? [0:00:47, 0:00:49]: As well as [0:00:52, 0:00:53]: Stephanie. [0:01:01, 0:01:03]: Okay, follow. [0:01:08, 0:01:13]: Be careful allowing me to touch these things because all of a sudden things start falling apart, right? [0:01:13, 0:01:22]: All right, ladies, congratulations on your recognition. These are both um um certificates of pr want you come on this side just a minute. [0:01:22, 0:01:29]: Might I need a mic, uh yeah, let me stay near the mic here. Uh these are both uh certificate appreciation for uh [0:01:29, 0:01:42]: I'll yeah, come on this side please. Yeah, I'm sorry. Uh for um your ten for you for ten years of service. Uh so fantastic and uh it's uh ten years. That's that's a long time. [0:01:42, 0:01:56]: But you got about another twenty to go, right? About another ten. Another twenty? All right. And on that note, there is a ten year pin for you as well. Okay? Okay. Thank you. Fantastic. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: You have any comments? [0:02:00, 0:02:04]: It's been great being here. Look for twenty more. [0:02:05, 0:02:05]: Mm-hmm. [0:02:06, 0:02:26]: And for you, Stephanie, uh certificate of appreciation. Uh so recognition and outstanding customer service. And I know that you uh do a lot down downstairs and meeting and greeting all the businesses and and customers and citizens and stakeholders and ribbon cuttings and so it's great. So congratulations uh to you as well. Thank you. Okay. And there is [0:02:26, 0:02:31]: A pen here for you as well. Oh, thank you. We appreciate you. Thank you. All right. [0:02:33, 0:02:39]: I do well yeah, well we'll do it. It's uh she's take uh would you have anything you'd like to say? [0:02:40, 0:02:43]: Thank you to City of Stockbridge. I'ma continue to do what I do. [0:02:43, 0:03:01]: You got you got ten, twenty more, twenty more years or so to go as well. Maybe twenty. All right. Hold on, this uh why don't you want you call them on this side? You go on this side and then we'll see uh oh uh I don't want to be necessarily be in the middle. You lay grasping on the end if you can get us and get better, okay? [0:03:09, 0:03:12]: Thank you. [0:03:14, 0:03:17]: You may eventually be our full our uh photographer the rest of the evening. [0:03:18, 0:03:32]: You're gonna you I'm gonna tag you to be our photographer for us, our photographer. Cause we got several more to go here, bro. Oh okay. All right. No problem. No problem. Good deal. What I have next is uh Georgia Municipal Court Clerks Week, ladies. Come on up. [0:03:42, 0:03:44]: Okay, Java. [0:03:46, 0:04:03]: So this this proclamation for the city of Stockbridge in recognition of Georgia's Municipal Court Clerks Week, June 10th to June to June 24th, 2024. Whereas municipal courts play a significant role in providing access to justice, preserving public safety, and promoting quality in life in Georgia. [0:04:03, 0:04:23]: Whereas more people encounter municipal court clerks than any other court personnel in Georgia, and a public impression of the entire Georgia judicial system is largely dependent upon the public's experience with municipal courts. Whereas municipal courts' clerks have pledged to be ever mindful of their neutrality and partiality. [0:04:23, 0:04:43]: Rendering equal service to all and conforming to the standards set by the uniform rules of municipal courts of the state of Georgia. Whereas in the most appropriate, and that, excuse me, whereas it is most appropriate that we recognize municipal court clerks representing over 380 Georgian municipal courts and a critical role they play. [0:04:43, 0:04:51]: Whereas the Governor Kemp has proclaimed June 10th to the twenty uh to the fourteenth, twenty twenty four, as Municipal Court Clerk's Week in the state of Georgia. [0:04:51, 0:05:11]: Whereas the state of Georgia recognizes the positive impact the municipal court clerks have had on its citizens and quality of life. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vesting me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda, Barber Kyle, Berry, Lakeese Gantt and Alfonso Thomas, do hereby recognize the week of June. [0:05:11, 0:05:31]: June 10th through the 14th, 2024, as Georgia Municipal Court Clerks Week, and further extend appreciation to our municipal court clerk and members of the court clerks office team for the vital services they perform and the experimentary dedication to the Stockbridge community and witness thereof whereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal city. [0:05:31, 0:05:34]: [334.9, 337.9]: two thousand and twenty four and I signed the proclamation along [0:05:38, 0:05:46]: with uh the clerk for Nelson Holiday. And congratulations. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you. [0:05:46, 0:06:03]: Now you y mic is yours. If you have any comments that you'd like to make? I don't have any comments, just thank you to Kenya and Quinn, my great team. Okay. Fantastic lady. Okay, good. I uh you you now give now you're not official photographer now. All right. Come on there, ladies. Good deal. [0:06:08, 0:06:10]: Okay. [0:06:14, 0:06:22]: Mary, if you don't mind, you wonder um if you know what Shane taking the picture. Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. [0:06:25, 0:06:30]: We're gonna p right here, ladies, we'll take two. Take two. [0:06:30, 0:06:35]: That's all we're not quick. [0:06:36, 0:06:37]: Right. [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Yeah, that's it. Okay. [0:06:46, 0:06:49]: [416.7, 436.7]: The next proclamation uh we have is Juneteenth. And so obviously you all know that the city of Stockbridge, I think it's going to be our third year. Third year. Third year celebrated Juneteenth, which is just right around the corner. So it's a proclamation recognizing Juneteenth. Whereas on June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, about I need to get over here, I'm sorry. [0:07:17, 0:07:24]: Uh once again, whereas on june nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, about two months after the Confederate general Robert E. Lee surrendered at Atomatics, Virginia. [0:07:25, 0:07:34]: Gordon Granger, a Union uh general, arrived in Galveston, Texas to inform Envl enslaved African Americans of their freedom and that the Civil War had ended. [0:07:34, 0:07:38]: General Granger's announcement put into effect the Emancipation Proclamation. [0:07:39, 0:07:43]: issued on january first, eighteen sixty three, by President Abraham Lincoln. [0:07:43, 0:08:03]: Whereas the word about the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation was delayed more than two and a half years to June 19, 1865, in reaching authorities and African Americans in the South and Southwest, Southwestern part of the United States. Whereas the last enslaved African Americans in Texas were pronounced free people and that the [0:08:03, 0:08:10]: Momentous date of june nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, have been proclaimed Juneteenth, combining the words June and nineteenth. [0:08:10, 0:08:15]: The holidays also call Juneteenth Independence Day, Freedom Day, or Emancipation Day. [0:08:16, 0:08:36]: Whereas on june seventeenth, twenty twenty one, President Biden signed the bill into law making Juneteenth, the eleventh na uh national holiday recognized by the federal government. All fifty states in the District of Columbia recognize Juneteenth as a holiday or observance. The national observance of Juneteenth provides a full a fuller and more accurate portrayal of America's history. [0:08:36, 0:08:56]: Whereas on June 19th each year, we celebrate and honor African Americans' heritage, history, freedom, culture, and events and ceremonies that reflect the power of the community, family, art, and traditions. In 2024, National Juneteenth theme, the wildest dreams, honors the history of our ancestors, highlights present uh accomplishments. Now, therefore, our [0:08:56, 0:09:08]: Anthony Sfor, by virtue of authority vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Londa Barber, Cowberry, Lakesa Gan, and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim [0:09:08, 0:09:11]: June nineteenth, twenty twenty four, as a juneteenth. [0:09:11, 0:09:31]: Excuse me, as Juneteenth day in the great city of Stockbridge, we call upon everyone to observe Juneteenth as an important milestone in our long march towards equality. The reminder of the great uh contributions of African Americans have made as free citizens of our nation, as well as the injustices they suffered as slaves and the courage of our forefathers. [0:09:31, 0:09:41]: forbearers of all races and creeds who gave their lives to fight against slavery. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in great seal city, Stockbridge, Georgia, [0:09:42, 0:09:49]: On the tenth day of June of uh year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty four, and I signed a proclamation along with a clerk for Nessa Holiday. Okay. [0:09:54, 0:10:02]: Sure. [0:10:03, 0:10:03]: [604.5, 606.7]: Staff, folks, wanna come on up? [0:10:08, 0:10:21]: Come on, Miss Weber. Come on, Miss Dress. Come on. Come on, folks. Come on today. Rhonda. Rhonda. Rhonda. Rhonda. [0:10:21, 0:10:41]: We probably I think we need to shift. I think we're out of the we're out of the um how but this is gonna probably block some of us here. We may have to double up. If you come in, some of you come on double up. Shift a little bit and come up. Some of you ladies come on up front. [0:10:41, 0:10:49]: [653.8, 656.1]: In far on that. [0:11:00, 0:11:09]: No, you're not in the whole thing. [0:11:11, 0:11:13]: Yeah. [0:11:21, 0:11:23]: Ready? Mm-hmm. [0:11:27, 0:11:34]: Thank you so much. [0:11:39, 0:11:44]: Be fine. No problem. [0:11:45, 0:11:53]: Okay. Well that reading makes me parts, huh? [0:11:54, 0:11:57]: Oh yeah. [0:12:01, 0:12:05]: The next proclamation we have is Father's Day. So uh [0:12:05, 0:12:14]: Both Councilman Alexander and I are father. So I tell you what, anybody that's out here if you like, if you're a father, if you wanna come on up, come on up if you know. [0:12:15, 0:12:22]: Yeah. This is this is a Father's Day proclamation. Any fathers? If you if you like any fathers, come join me. [0:12:23, 0:12:25]: If not, I'll continue I'll [0:12:27, 0:12:32]: Your father all right, all right. Come on, Mr. Your father, come on up here, [0:12:34, 0:12:36]: Father's Day. [0:12:37, 0:12:40]: How about you, Anderson? Ryan, your father? [0:12:44, 0:12:45]: Ryan, you Ryan, your father? [0:12:47, 0:12:49]: Come on, come on, guys. [0:12:52, 0:12:55]: Yeah, I guess I need I guess that I need to speak out. [0:12:56, 0:12:59]: All right, gentlemen. Uh come come on up here, get on. Okay. [0:13:01, 0:13:01]: Okay. [0:13:02, 0:13:07]: All right, so this is a proclamation city star bridge recognizing Father's Day 2024. [0:13:08, 0:13:16]: Whereas a gift of fatherhood requires commitment and dedication to the rising and raising and preparing our children to grow into productive, positive adults. [0:13:16, 0:13:36]: Whereas fathers teach by example the values of love, trust, work, responsibility, and faithfulness to family and others. Whereas we set aside the third Sunday in June to honor our fathers for their valuable contributions and selfless sacrifice. Fathers, whereas fathers impart to the sons and daughters a sense of heritage, duty, responsibilities, [0:13:36, 0:13:39]: as part of their family, friends, community and country. [0:13:39, 0:13:48]: Whereas in homes across the great nation, state, and local communities, we look to the fathers to provide the strength and stability which recognize a successful family. [0:13:48, 0:13:58]: And whereas if the father's responsibilities are many, his rewards are also great, the love, appreciation, respect of children and spouse, there is a desire to acknowledge publicly [0:13:58, 0:14:18]: these feelings to have for their fathers and of the beloved Stockbridge community. Now therefore I Anthony's for by virtue of authority less than me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, Kyle Berry, LakeesaGantt, and Afonso Thomas, to hereby recognize June 16, 2024, as Father's Day in the Great City of Stockbridge. Let us honor [0:14:18, 0:14:33]: honor our fathers, living and deceased, and show them the love and gratitude they deserve. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand, the great seal city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the tenth day of June, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty four. And I signed a proclamation along with our cliff with Nessal Holiday. [0:14:34, 0:14:37]: [878.9, 884.7]: Now I have to admit I have to admit my my on my own father passed away five years ago, but I think about him often. [0:14:44, 0:14:53]: Uh so uh gentlemen, you're all fathers. So I uh any comments? Any comments, any fathers you have any comments at all? F I mean really. [0:14:54, 0:14:58]: Mr. Alexander, uh why you ha I'm I know you probably have some comments, I would imagine. [0:14:58, 0:15:18]: You go ahead, Pray. Well, but I got well I'll you know I can give you the proclamation. Go ahead. So, what kind of comments do you have? Well, I just want to thank uh all the fathers out there if you're tuning in and everyone up here recognizing the contribution of fathers in the community and everything that you do uh to make sure and sustain the [0:15:18, 0:15:38]: Community and to protect the village and do everything necessary to make the city prosperous. Understand, statistics don't lie. Fathers matter in the household and doing what we do and to make sure that we are fostering a family and doing what's necessary to be involved in the children's lives. [0:15:38, 0:15:58]: Because even though fathers who are not in the home are actively involved in their child's life and making a difference. And so let's make sure that we continue to recognize the contributions of fathers not just today, but every day, three hundred and sixty-five days a year. [0:15:58, 0:16:04]: Anybody else? Anybody come on gentlemen, we're gonna take a picture. Come on, we're gonna take a picture. Anybody else have any comments that you wanna make? [0:16:05, 0:16:25]: Well I know you're all great men, all great fathers. So uh let's let's double up. Come on, come on, so let's kinda get in here tight. Remember, you have to have a different uh second row. You jumped on the book. [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: Oh, it's my own. [0:16:40, 0:16:41]: Mm-hmm. [0:16:41, 0:16:50]: Probably not. We got a limited amount of time. Yeah, we're limited. [0:16:52, 0:16:52]: Mm. [0:16:55, 0:17:07]: We got one more proclamation. Stand by folks. Uh yeah. Oh C okay C is here. Okay. All right. Okay. Well come on up. Y'all come on? [0:17:08, 0:17:16]: All right, so this this proclamation here is for LGBTQ and National Pride Month. So anybody wants to re recognize or as I read this, come on up. [0:17:17, 0:17:17]: Okay. [0:17:20, 0:17:31]: How you doing? How you doing? Good. I said thank you for making it all short. I was here at Saturday. Absolutely. No, I know you said you were gonna be late. Anybody else at all? Okay. [0:17:31, 0:17:44]: And co how you doing by the way? I'm fine, how are you? Anybody else wanna join us, feel free to join us as well. We wanna make sure everybody feels welcome here. Feel free to join us. Anyone else to join us? Okay. [0:17:45, 0:18:05]: Proclamation, City Stockbridge, and recognition of LGBTQ and National Pride Month. Whereas June is Pride Month, although it runs through June 30th, Pride Month typically wraps up with a series of events scheduled on or about June 28th, the anniversary of Stonewall Rising. Whereas in June 1969, a courageous group of Americans rolled [0:18:05, 0:18:25]: Goes up to protest the violence and materialism, marginalism, excuse me, they face in what became known as the Stonewall Uprising. Police have raided the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar located in New York City. And for the next six days, they clashed with LGBTQ plus protesters who bravely [0:18:25, 0:18:45]: Stood their ground. The courage sparked the civil rights movement for the liberation of the LGBTQ plus community and changed the nation forever. Whereas during lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and intersexual LGBTQ plus Pride Month reflects on the progress we made as a nation in the [0:18:45, 0:18:55]: fight for justice, inclusion and equality, while reaffirming a commitment to do more about more to support LGBTQ plus rights at home and abroad. [0:18:56, 0:19:08]: Whereas all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights, LGBTQ plus individuals have had immeasurable impact on to cultural, civic and economic successes to our of our country. [0:19:09, 0:19:29]: Whereas, while society at large increasingly supports LGBTQ plus, equality is essential to the knowledge acknowledgement that needs to for the need of education, awareness remains vital to the end discrimination and prejudice. Whereas this nation is founded on the principle that every individual has [0:19:29, 0:19:49]: In definite uh dignity and work. The city of Stockbridge embraces the principle of and we will continue to work to eliminate prejudice everywhere it exists. Now therefore our Anthony Sforr, by virtue of authority, vesting me, is the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members out, now Zandy, Londa, Barber Cowberry, Lakeesha Gantt and Afonso Thomas, you [0:19:49, 0:20:01]: We hereby proclaim June 2024 as National Pride Month and call upon the Sustabbers community to recognize the achievements of LGBTQ plus community and to celebrate the great diversity in America. [0:20:01, 0:20:20]: And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the tenth day of June, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty four. And I signed a proclamation along with our clerk Winness Olive. And I'd like to issue this to you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. No, you have we have no comments at all. [0:20:21, 0:20:34]: I just like to say thank you to the city of Stockbridge for acknowledging the LGBTQ plus community. There are a lot of us here. You make us feel welcome and we will continue to contribute to the community. [0:20:35, 0:20:36]: Oh really? [0:20:37, 0:20:39]: So you know we want to take a picture over here? [0:20:40, 0:20:40]: Yeah. [0:20:41, 0:20:46]: So that should be right. This is good for this part. Okay. Okay, sure. Come on. [0:20:48, 0:20:57]: [1263.2, 1268.6]: Thank you. All right. Thank you all for the [0:21:09, 0:21:20]: Okay, you said now. You too. All right ladies and gentlemen, that is the the last of our proclamations and part of our uh ceremonial portion for the meeting. It's ten minutes to six, so we'll start the meeting at six o'clock. All right? [0:21:22, 0:21:25]: So relax yourself and stand by, okay? [0:22:53, 0:22:57]: Council, let's let's take our seats so we can get started with the meeting, please. [0:23:11, 0:23:13]: Gentlemen, let's uh let's start the meeting. [0:23:35, 0:23:37]: Ladies and gentlemen, I have six oh one. [0:23:37, 0:23:42]: I'd like to start our city council meeting dated um Monday, June nineteenth. [0:23:44, 0:23:51]: Excuse me, June tenth. I got Juneteenth on my mind. I can't wait to that celebration. Monday, June tenth, okay, six oh one. [0:23:52, 0:23:55]: Invocation, uh Miss Jackson, please, could you come to the mic? [0:23:56, 0:23:59]: Please stand folks if you're willing to do and can do so. [0:24:01, 0:24:02]: Make sure the mic's on for you, please. [0:24:03, 0:24:04]: Is the green light showing? [0:24:06, 0:24:07]: There you go. Thank you. [0:24:08, 0:24:12]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. May we all bow our heads. [0:24:12, 0:24:32]: I pray for this council meeting tonight. Give the council members wisdom and guidance as they deliberate on the items before them. May every decision be righteous in your sight, for our benefit and for your glory. In the name of the Father, of the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen. We will pledge allegiance. [0:24:32, 0:24:45]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the world for which is hands, one nation under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:24:47, 0:24:49]: Anclock uh Rokaw, please. [0:24:50, 0:24:52]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Berry. [0:24:54, 0:25:14]: Let the record reflect Mayor Berry. Mayor Pro Tanberry is not in attendance. Councilmember Alexander. Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. Present. Mayor Cord, you have a call. I thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate it. Uh Council, I have before me, there's a motion before me to amend. [0:25:14, 0:25:20]: To remove item number six, the lottery to be put to be published, and announce at a future [0:25:21, 0:25:28]: date to be determined. Is there a second to that motion? Or is there a motion to say so moved or a second? So move. Is there a second? [0:25:28, 0:25:34]: I second. Okay, from uh from Mr. Alexander to Miss Gann. All in favor, please indicate. [0:25:34, 0:25:45]: Okay, thank you, Namus. Thank you very much. So ladies and gentlemen, item six will not be seen this evening. All right, so on that note, I need a motion to adopt the reining the remaining of the agenda, please. [0:25:45, 0:25:57]: Mayor. Yes sir. If I would like to make a note, I think there was a previous advertisement that um there was a rezoning on Hudson Bridge Road for tonight, but it will not be heard tonight'cause I don't see it on the agenda either. [0:25:58, 0:26:07]: Uh what item you referring to, sir? Well, it wasn't only agenda, but I think that there was some confusion about that being on this agenda tonight, but it's not. Okay. Yeah. [0:26:09, 0:26:11]: Ma'am may applaus. Yes, ma'am. [0:26:12, 0:26:20]: It's my understanding that the Planning Commission deferred the item, so it has to go back to the Planning Commission before it can come to the council. [0:26:21, 0:26:25]: Okay. [0:26:30, 0:26:35]: Who's who's determined if the applicant will give me some information cannot be decided to refer? [0:26:36, 0:26:54]: Okay. That's why it's not on the agenda tonight. Yes. Okay? So so be it. Ms. Alexander? Yes, thank you. Okay. So moved. All right. Uh so move to the amendment to the uh rest of the agenda. Yes. If so moved, is there a second to the motion? My second. Ms Ms. Gantt, second and all in favor, please indicate. [0:26:55, 0:27:11]: All right, we'll go forward with the agenda. Before you council, you have the adoption of the minutes, um, the adoption of minutes for May thirteenth, the city uh city council meeting May thirteenth, and also city work session, council work session on the twenty eighth. Is there a motion to uh to approve those minutes, please? [0:27:12, 0:27:17]: So move. Okay, Mr. Alzheimer's, is there a second? Ms. Barber, second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:27:18, 0:27:22]: Okay, unanimous decision on that moment as well. Uh Madam Clerk, any public comments at all? [0:27:24, 0:27:24]: Okay. [0:27:25, 0:27:36]: Ladies and gentlemen, before we started a meeting tonight, we had uh uh several different ceremonial type of presentations. First of all, uh we recognize uh a couple of our own employees. [0:27:37, 0:27:57]: Um Miss Unita Sellers, um or ten years of of working in the city of Stockbridge and she says she's gonna be around for another twenty, so I said, Okay, fantastic. And uh Stephanie Milton uh for special recognition doing a great job down in the in the um in his in the office downstairs dealing with all you the customers and all the [0:27:57, 0:28:06]: anybody coming in for do businesses in the in this aspect. So uh those ladies were identified and recognized and honored in that aspect as well. [0:28:07, 0:28:27]: We have proclamations for Municipal Court Clerks Week, and we have several members of our court clerk that were here present for that as well. We want to recognize all the good work they're doing. And uh a proclamation reference to Juneteenth, and uh we will have a Juneteenth celebration, of course, here soon, in another nine days city event. It'll be third year in a row. [0:28:27, 0:28:47]: That will have that event. And obviously that's in recognition of individuals, African Americans finally receiving, an entire country finally receiving that the fact that the Civil War has ended and they're free from slavery. And so we want to recognize that as well. And then we recognize Pride Month here in the city of Stockbridge. [0:28:47, 0:29:07]: And Miss Lisa Carter received uh that particular proclamation. And we recognize Father's Day. We had several of us that were joined for that, include myself and Miss Alizander, several other staff members, gentlemen that are fathers, and so we want to give them recognition as well. A lot of times the recognition normally goes to mothers, but there [0:29:07, 0:29:21]: our fathers so and we do our part as well so we wanted to make sure we did that. On that note I have a um next on the agenda would be a a public hearing. May I we'll go back to the public comments. [0:29:21, 0:29:26]: Oh yeah, oh I missed that. Yes we did. Um Mr. Lewis Fonseca. [0:29:26, 0:29:35]: Okay. Okay, go right here, I'm sorry. Come on up come up, sir, if you have public comment and uh give your name and address. You get three minutes, sir. [0:29:44, 0:29:49]: That's i is a green light on, sir? Green light? Okay, go ahead, please. [0:29:49, 0:30:09]: Uh good afternoon, everyone. My name is Louis Van Seca. I'm actually uh I come from New York City and did this back for the past two years. Okay. Unfortunately I'm not I'm standing here and had to make great comments. It's unfortunate to tell you that the police department you have sort of people that are racist against my Latin community. [0:30:09, 0:30:17]: the clean spackage. And that's very disappointing because I thought it's supposed to protect the serve. [0:30:17, 0:30:33]: You know, and we need to start paying attention to all that. We provide a lot of a lot for the for the community. Also, over the weekend, you know, I also represent Royal Sports Park, yeah, down down on North Liverpool Park. [0:30:34, 0:30:54]: And our company was raided by the city. I don't know who made the phone for me on the audio of you guys. If you make the phone to shut us down, I would appreciate for you to start talking to us and start doing great business and protect the local businesses. We're here to support the LA community, the Korean. [0:30:54, 0:31:14]: community which we have a lot of community in this in the city you know to work together with the city we are bringing a lot of business to the city and actually one of you guys shut us down and that's a very paid move we start we need to start working together and this very disappointing you affect other people you help but [0:31:13, 0:31:33]: A lot of people that need second chance because they get out of jail. And we can work to make sure to support the children. It is unfortunate because I started doing my research. It's very upsetting and I'm very [0:31:33, 0:31:53]: I'm very disappointed to say this. One of them are the police department, like I mentioned. You need to start looking into that because like I said, we were very uh we were treated like criminals over the weekend, like pigs, and that's the way the boss was supposed to work. Let's do this thing the right way. [0:31:53, 0:32:13]: proper way and I know how I know exactly how they move because I used to work for city council in the mayor in New York City. So you know you have a person like myself that speaks three languages that you could actually use to work together with the city. But no right now you don't have to access because we're being shut down. We can't work here. We're being kicked [0:32:13, 0:32:33]: Out instead of kicking us out, why don't we just educate businesses to make sure we do the right moves, the right things which we want to proper progress, not to delete us from the city? And that's how I feel this community right now. Very disappointing. And a lot of the community, Korean, Afro-American, was very happy with what we were doing. [0:32:33, 0:32:53]: doing at what you're supposed to are you know bringing businesses uh to the big uh into where you're uh into stack which is very important because we could work together we could build this together you know thank you and i'm sorry for for being very very upset but whoever did make that phone call think about it before you do have [0:32:53, 0:33:00]: because you know that community is ready to come out and protest about this move and then you just it's a right. [0:33:00, 0:33:12]: Thank you for the comments. We'll check further into this. The first I've heard of it. I don't know if the council knew anything about this before, but we'll check further in into your concerns, sir. Any other and that's that's the only comment? Uh yes. Ms. Suzette Wilkinson. [0:33:13, 0:33:18]: Mayor Ford. [0:33:19, 0:33:25]: Yes, um yeah, you go ahead, sir. Um I I didn't get the name of the sports bar. [0:33:27, 0:33:33]: Okay. Royal. Right. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Go come on, ma'am. Your name and address, please. [0:33:41, 0:33:42]: Okay. [0:33:45, 0:33:47]: Uh taxes would be [0:33:47, 0:34:00]: lower that it wouldn't affect us, but in actuality we were not told like I have homestead exams with Henry County. I was not told prior that I would have to file a separate homestead exam. [0:34:00, 0:34:02]: What the city of Stockwell is. [0:34:02, 0:34:10]: Also, we were built, I was built$264 for trash, and then they came and took one of my trash can. [0:34:10, 0:34:29]: When I requ inquired about getting the can back, they told me under the city ordinance, you're only entitled to one can and in order to get the second can back, I would have to pay additional thirty-six dollars quarterly. Which in actuality that takes me from paying$192 a year. [0:34:29, 0:34:44]: To$264 plus in order to get my other can back, that's an additional$144. So that takes me a disabled resident to$404 a year for the same trash that I was paying$192 for. [0:34:45, 0:35:05]: And then you have other people in the subdivision that are paying cycle works, and they don't realize that they're being billed through the city of Stockbridge for their training. So they're being double paid. Then I have an elderly neighbor that lives next door. Their son takes care of their bills. He wasn't aware. He's still paying waste management, but he was [0:35:05, 0:35:09]: Bill and his parents will bill the two hundred and sixty-four dollars for trade. [0:35:09, 0:35:15]: So why are they still accepting payments from the people in the neighborhood but they're getting paid through the city? [0:35:17, 0:35:35]: All right, well I'll tell you we'll have to check into this. Obviously you as a as city residents you have two trash cans. You have a regular trash can and you have a recyclable can. You're supposed to have also a recyclable as well, ca w everybody gets recyc has recyclable service. Uh the city manager's taking note of this, we'll have to get you got your name and address and we'll have to follow up with this ask this for you, okay? [0:35:40, 0:35:41]: I had two tradifications. [0:35:41, 0:35:44]: And I'll be paid forty eight dollars for [0:35:44, 0:35:51]: Now I'm telling being told in order to get my old can bash. I'm gonna have to pay separately to get that can. [0:35:51, 0:36:03]: All right. Mr. Gardner, take a note of this please so we can follow up with this. This is resident. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. All right. Um no further comments. Okay, thank you. On that note. [0:36:05, 0:36:08]: We're going to public hearing, ladies and gentlemen. And so um [0:36:09, 0:36:11]: When we go into public hearing, um [0:36:15, 0:36:19]: Let me go I'm gonna read this now and then uh then Ryan you'll give you a briefing. All right. [0:36:20, 0:36:40]: Public hearing rules, please mute all mute all your cell phones and other electronic devices. 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Please refrain from applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, which is me, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the council, staff, or the audience. [0:37:31, 0:37:51]: All comments will be made from the podium where you will be where you'll be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than [0:37:50, 0:38:10]: applicant no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part or part of his time, his or her speaking time, as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire 10 minutes to allow for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. [0:38:10, 0:38:11]: Yeah. [0:38:11, 0:38:29]: Providing officer will call for a motion and second to that motion and have a necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. The first item for public hearing deals with text amendment case tx. [0:38:30, 0:38:50]: That's two zero two four-four for housing shelters citywide. Consideration of tax amendment to the Stock Bridge Unified Development Code UDC to allow for the location of various types of housing shelters within the C2 General Commercial, C three, heavy commercial, OI office institutional, and [0:38:50, 0:39:06]: ally light industrial zoning districts use as special uses requiring the approval of the special use permit through the public hearing process. Planning commission recommendation 05 on 1624 denied that. Mr. Ryan please. [0:39:07, 0:39:16]: Good evening. Um the yes, the Planning Commission did recommend denial. However, they were um mostly influenced by um unincorporated [0:39:16, 0:39:19]: Henry County residents. Uh no one from the city spoke. [0:39:20, 0:39:22]: Uh out against this text amendment. [0:39:24, 0:39:28]: Um the general definition of um of what we're proposing. [0:39:29, 0:39:33]: An amendment to our UDC is a sh it will be ca is a specialized housing facility. [0:39:34, 0:39:37]: Is a shelter home a refuge for those in urgent needs. [0:39:37, 0:39:53]: or in times of emergency, it is designed to provide temporary living accommodation to individuals, family families who are experiencing homelessness in general. We have we have proposed three different types of shelters. Tier one, a shelter providing specialized housing, [0:39:53, 0:39:59]: Whose primary purpose is to provide temporary shelter for no more than thirty days, uh a tier two shelter. [0:39:59, 0:40:03]: A shelter providing homelessness services whose primary purpose [0:40:03, 0:40:06]: Is provide temporary shelter for no more than six months. [0:40:06, 0:40:13]: And a tier three shelter, which is a long term shelter, which is to provide temporary shelter for no more than one year. [0:40:18, 0:40:33]: Um like in the in the agenda item that the mayor read, um to operate one of these facilities you still have to come before the city council to get a special use permit. Uh they will be allowed in uh OI, C2, C three. [0:40:33, 0:40:40]: and L I they will not be allowed in the downtown overlay district or the parkway mixed use overlay district. [0:40:40, 0:40:49]: Uh, we're amending section three point one of the UDC, the table to add specialized housing facilities as a special use. [0:40:51, 0:41:00]: Um listed in section D are the sec are the requirements um in rel in relation to setbacks and buffering and things of that nature. [0:41:02, 0:41:05]: Uh the the map on the screen right now is [0:41:05, 0:41:12]: Is all the of all the potential locations for a specialized housing facility. As you can see, it's not allowed in the DT. [0:41:12, 0:41:25]: Downtown Overlay District or the PMU, the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. Uh the parcels available are all zone L I, C2, OI, and C I mean C two, C three, L I and O I. [0:41:26, 0:41:33]: And uh on the map lists all the potential locations for those facil types of facilities. Uh we feel like [0:41:34, 0:41:54]: This potenti uh particular text amendment is needed to help combat um the issue we have with the unhoused in the city because currently there is no provision allowed to uh no provision in the UDC to allow for these types of facilities. And we feel like this will be beneficial for the public health and safety of the overall city. [0:41:54, 0:41:58]: So staff uh staff recommended approval of this. [0:42:00, 0:42:05]: Okay. All right. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Council, questions that you may have? [0:42:09, 0:42:11]: Ms. Ms. Barber, are you ready for a do you have a question? [0:42:12, 0:42:12]: Okay. [0:42:13, 0:42:21]: Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Um what's driving this change? Did you get a request or something? [0:42:22, 0:42:38]: N not not not in particular. I mean we just um we have several uh citizens, um residents complaining about our the housing encampments and things of that nature and uh people in need don't have a place to go within the city. [0:42:39, 0:42:43]: So we felt like it was uh done, it needed to be done out of a need basis. [0:42:48, 0:43:08]: Thank you, sir. All right. So let me ask go ahead. So there's no particular applicant or anything at this time. This is just a preemptory a preemptory preemptive move. Yeah, we're trying in anticipation of something that may or may not happen in the future. Well, we have several people that want to apply for one of these facilities, however [0:43:08, 0:43:15]: Or uh we don't have an application process for it, or we don't have any provisions in the UDC to allow them to. But we get inquiries all the time. [0:43:16, 0:43:35]: Right. I d uh I didn't hear you so this this the are these allowed in residential areas potentially no only C two, C three, O I and L I only districts and uh and they are excluded from the downtown overlay district area and the Parkway mixed use overlay area. [0:43:35, 0:43:49]: So how were how were the uh i uh y how did you go about the process of determining the location? Did you have consultation with the particular vendors or you how d how did you formulate these particular loc go back to the locations if you [0:43:50, 0:44:10]: Staff and I um we basically made the determination we wouldn't want these type of facilities in in our areas, but we're where we were trying to encourage growth and we want and we don't want them in our residential areas. So um and and we did some comparative analysis with what other cities have and these are the four districts that most [0:44:10, 0:44:13]: other cities have these types of facilities located in. [0:44:14, 0:44:16]: Okay, l put the map back up there if you wouldn't. [0:44:21, 0:44:41]: Wait a minute. And if it would be helpful, I've had several individuals approach me or come to my office, have conversations with me about this issue. So I talked further with Mr. Gardner and uh about what how what we can do if it can need to accommodate this. And that's what drive Mr. An uh Anderson to do some research on this and bring it back before the council to see if this is something that the council [0:44:41, 0:44:48]: we want to do. So that's how that I believe this how this got started with conversations initially some of the citizens had with me when it came to visit me. [0:44:49, 0:44:56]: Okay. Thank you for that. I want to follow up when it gets to the back up. Hey Demetris. [0:44:58, 0:44:59]: Was the victor. [0:45:01, 0:45:02]: Like you. [0:45:09, 0:45:09]: Oh. [0:45:11, 0:45:15]: I can't get it to go back to slide number seven. What you got in um? [0:45:15, 0:45:16]: Slides up. [0:45:28, 0:45:30]: One more is that one. [0:45:32, 0:45:35]: Mm. There we go. [0:45:38, 0:45:58]: Okay, so these areas that are indicated aren't traditional uh residential areas that you have outlined. Is that what you indicated? Uh no sir. Uh these are C two, C three, L I and O O I districts. And the properties are already zoned for those the in those designation as you've indicated. [0:45:58, 0:46:18]: Yes, sir. Okay, certainly, Mayor, I certainly do concur uh with the need uh and uh Miss Councilwoman Barber and I actually served on a commission uh seeking to do something similar to this to be able to provide a a homeless shelter working [0:46:18, 0:46:38]: With the county partners, and at some point when uh the funding is available or entity is present, then uh we would need some locations in the city uh as potential locations for this. Obviously, you know, folks will be sensitive to uh the locations and because of the population. [0:46:38, 0:46:58]: You're dealing with you certainly want to be very sympathetic as we encounter the homeless population weekly at my food drive. And I'm sure uh Miss Linda Jones and cur and in uh comes in contact with them frequently during her food drive and all the nonprofit organizations, and we're scrambling because we don't have the resources. [0:46:57, 0:47:17]: To do so. So I do believe this is a very necessary move in order to have these done. But certainly they got to be done right in partnership with the community so that when funding does become available, we see it every day out there at the interstate. We see it at re-retail locations. [0:47:17, 0:47:37]: With people panhandling. And then we had a situation where Councilwoman Barber and I participated in this commission where we were looking to establish a homeless shelter. And during the cold weather, when it was so cold, and they went out and they were [0:47:37, 0:47:57]: actually picking up folks in various areas of the city because it was so cold in the wintertime that the death was a real, real possibility. And housing these individuals in hotels, that was what they were forced to do. So certainly this is necessary. I just want to make sure we're [0:47:57, 0:48:17]: Doing it in line with what's what's appropriate for the city and that uh they're in appropriate locations. Yes, we follow national um standards uh when we devise this text amendment. Uh we put it in the most familiar familiar districts that other cities nationwide have these. [0:48:17, 0:48:20]: facilities permission to be located in. [0:48:24, 0:48:37]: So uh the vendors that you talked to, did anybody express a desire for a particular location? Uh no sir. It didn't it didn't go that far because after we told them we don't have a provision in our UDC for it, uh it just kinda was left at that. [0:48:39, 0:48:42]: Thank you. Any other questions from the council? [0:48:45, 0:49:00]: Any other questions from the council? Good. All right. So if that's the if that's no one of the questions, then obviously are we gonna make a change. Yeah, we need a public hearing. I'm sorry, sir. Public hearing. Uh yes, thank you, sir. It is a public hearing. You're absolutely right. [0:49:01, 0:49:17]: Before we start the public here. Talk about these locations. The map is kinda small. So you can blow up each location uh that that you had some determination for so folks can can see that. I see that. Um [0:49:19, 0:49:39]: Looks like the majority of them are in my district. Or well I'm not necessarily in uh Marypro Tim's district. Well'cause they're north of Eagles Land. There can only um there can only be three, one of each, one Tier One, one Tier Two, and one Tier Three in the city. So there won't be a proliferation of of these types of facilities. Okay. So there can only be [0:49:39, 0:49:40]: Be three. [0:49:43, 0:49:48]: Okay, so this uh the lo the one that's right there by Eagles Landing Parkway, that is in the business center, correct? [0:49:48, 0:50:08]: Yeah, um I mean some of these these properties could be are um could be filled already. Um they're not necessarily vacant. Um but these this is just an example or illustration of the LI the C C two, C three, OI, and LI parcels in the city as a whole. So some of them could be taken. [0:50:08, 0:50:09]: Bacon uh [0:50:16, 0:50:36]: Okay, if no other questions, then uh what I'd like to do is uh is open this up further for the for the public to uh give the comments. So if you're interested in approving or this one having good comments about what has been presented, uh from the very my very uh left section, is anybody wants to speak on this? [0:50:36, 0:50:56]: This in reference to it being a good thing to do in the city. Anybody on my left that wanna speak? And if that's the case, I need for you to line up on the right there in the in the aisleway if you're gonna if you wanna speak. Anybody in the middle wanna speak? This is four. Anybody four? This in the middle. [0:50:56, 0:50:59]: [3059.6, 3060.2]: Four. [0:51:01, 0:51:02]: Okay. [0:51:02, 0:51:05]: If you're the one four man, come to your mic, give your name and address, please. [0:51:08, 0:51:09]: Make sure the green light is on. [0:51:10, 0:51:25]: Good evening, Mayor Ford and the council members and all city stock of Stockbridge residents. Mrs. Paula Neely, 165 Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia. There is a need. There is a [0:51:25, 0:51:26]: Critical need. [0:51:27, 0:51:29]: It has been addressed on the neighborhood [0:51:29, 0:51:30]: Email. [0:51:30, 0:51:34]: Від концерс абої тоді а за ситі. [0:51:34, 0:51:36]: For those that are homeless and in need. [0:51:37, 0:51:52]: many times coming out of the Walmart on Hudson Bridge, giving. We have seen many sleeping under the tower that says City of Stockbridge there at the corners of Rockbridge. [0:51:52, 0:51:55]: And Hudson Bridge. It's a shame. [0:51:55, 0:51:56]: It's a shame. [0:51:56, 0:51:58]: We're all God's children. [0:51:58, 0:51:59]: And they need help. [0:52:00, 0:52:20]: Because it could be us. But by the grace of God, there go I. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, if there are no other comments for comments that may be against and that that say that we don't want to do this, you know what the council to do this, that's against this. Anybody in my far left that wants to speak? My far left. [0:52:20, 0:52:28]: Anybody in the middle? Please, it's line up right there, please. Anybody in the middle who want to speak against this? Anyone by far right. [0:52:29, 0:52:31]: Okay, ma'am, please name and address. [0:52:36, 0:52:56]: Uh the green light is on Mayor. Okay. And uh my name is uh Jocelyn Williams, one ninety Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, three oh two eight one. Uh just like other residents, I totally agree with us being able to form three Tier One, Tier Two, and Tier Three. My only question is as a resident, I came to the last meeting when I don't understand or [0:52:56, 0:53:16]: Or not allowed to ask questions, I go to the opposition. Opposition because I want it at least to be documented that at least one person didn't understand because how many occupants will be in a building. I think I saw uh I live near Oak, uh Red Oak, uh is there and Banks Road is there. [0:53:15, 0:53:35]: Uh that there is a industrial area near me and I was just wondering um is that where one of the tiers will be and if it's a tier, what tier is it? So uh my opposition is because I don't understand and because I don't have enough information, but there is a need. I'm just opposing because I don't understand [0:53:35, 0:53:43]: And when given an opportunity to sit in on the discussion, but it's nothing I can do because it was approved. And I thank you so much. [0:53:44, 0:53:48]: M Mr Ryan, could you come back and further explain the different tier system for folks for their understanding? [0:53:52, 0:54:05]: Yes, sir. Uh a tier one facility, you um person can shelter there for up to thirty days. A tier two s uh shelter, a person can shelter there for up to six months, and a tier three up to a year. [0:54:05, 0:54:05]: Okay. [0:54:06, 0:54:11]: So I'm sorry, follow up. How many people would be basically Uh we got that in the regulations, let me see. [0:54:26, 0:54:41]: And for clarification, even if we did move forward with this particular um amendment and we approved at those locations, as you indicated, they would still have to come back to the council for uh final approval. [0:54:42, 0:55:02]: For a special use permit, yes. For a special use permit. So it would never would be the final step, so whatever details would be provided before any final approval or a special a special permit was issued. Yes, sir. That's correct. They would have to come back before council and fill out a special use application, go through the public hearing process. They would have to [0:55:01, 0:55:21]: Meet with her, meet with the affected. Well, it's not in a residential uh neighborhood, but the the closest affected neighborhood. They will have to attend a a CZIM, our new CZIM meeting. They will have to attend the Planning Commission meeting, and then they will come back before city council, and it will be advertised in the newspapers, and everybody would be. [0:55:21, 0:55:23]: [3324.0, 3325.0]: Mm-hmm. [0:55:25, 0:55:26]: Right. [0:55:26, 0:55:31]: Stand by any other questions for Mr. Ryan? Any other questions, concerns you council may have? [0:55:36, 0:55:45]: Well none of them can ex exceed forty beds. On supplemental regulations, um no more than fi forty beds are to be maintained within the shelter. [0:55:47, 0:55:49]: You said no more than forty beds? Yes, yes. [0:55:51, 0:55:52]: Is that for what tier? [0:55:52, 0:55:59]: Uh that's for all tiers. For all tiers. Yes. You there it goes on the screen. It's um item is uh alphabet number E. [0:56:01, 0:56:04]: These are the regulations governing the process. [0:56:09, 0:56:10]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [0:56:10, 0:56:20]: Thank you. Um I just wanna say that this has been an ongoing discussion on Nextdoor and other social media outlets. Um I think that we all [0:56:20, 0:56:31]: um understand that and hope that the I hope. I'm definitely in support of this. I'm in hope that um my colleagues are too. I have confidence that they are. [0:56:31, 0:56:32]: Um [0:56:32, 0:56:37]: because there is a need. Um and there's a need w throughout, not just Stockbridge. [0:56:37, 0:56:40]: But when I say c colleagues, that includes [0:56:41, 0:56:43]: My sister cities and our county. [0:56:43, 0:56:45]: Um in as a whole. [0:56:45, 0:56:48]: From Hampton, Locust Grove, McDonough. [0:56:48, 0:56:50]: Um and throughout. And I think [0:56:51, 0:56:54]: That stock bridge I applaud all of us and our staff. [0:56:55, 0:56:57]: And you mayor for taking the lead. [0:56:58, 0:57:00]: on something that this county hasn't had. [0:57:00, 0:57:03]: And unfortunately, when I first got [0:57:03, 0:57:06]: on council back in twenty fourteen. [0:57:07, 0:57:14]: Um and even before then I was told and even when we found out that there was a need for the community, we were told that [0:57:14, 0:57:18]: Shelters weren't warned it here because if you bring a shelter [0:57:19, 0:57:20]: You bring [0:57:20, 0:57:20]: And [0:57:21, 0:57:22]: homeless people. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: Буре all [0:57:25, 0:57:27]: uh people of love. [0:57:27, 0:57:34]: And um with those shelters come, hopefully the right non profit will come. [0:57:35, 0:57:48]: Um we have now designated and found out locations we we're ahead of the curve and I applaud us for being ahead of the curve. We're spearheading this and I hope that other our county and our s other cities will follow. Um [0:57:50, 0:57:54]: If anyone is hearing that loud and clear, um, I I think that [0:57:55, 0:57:55]: Um [0:57:57, 0:58:15]: It's definitely a need and I hope that we all as a community embrace and love and understand that there are people who whether they need mental help, um, hopefully it's a facility that helps get people back on their feet, whether there are some moms with kids, we've had some shelters for that. [0:58:15, 0:58:25]: Um, who knows? But I I'm I'm glad that we're doing this and I thank you for tasking staff to do this. I think this is important to all of us. We see it all the time. [0:58:26, 0:58:35]: Okay, any other comments for the council? Um Ms. Barbagoy, please. I have a question for Mr. Anderson. Does this include like transitional housing? [0:58:36, 0:58:37]: Um [0:58:39, 0:58:42]: Like if a person lose their home and they're trying to to [0:58:43, 0:58:47]: So there are programs where um [0:58:47, 0:59:06]: Entities can purchase a residential home and use that um as a way to no mail. So it doesn't include like programming for this. This is just for the text amendment. Yes, yes ma'am. In our code. Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. Mayor Ford, um if there are no other questions, I'd like to make a motion. Go right ahead, please. [0:59:07, 0:59:22]: Go right ahead. A motion to approve the text amendment for housing shelters. Second. Okay. May the second. All favor please indicate Mr. NAMS decision. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Thank you, Council. [0:59:23, 0:59:25]: Now we have um [0:59:25, 0:59:45]: Well c well s I'll say to you, we'll close out that particular public hearing, but we have another item, so we'll have another public hearing here. Uh rezoning case R Z twenty twenty-three-zero five, City Council District two. Consideration of a request to rezone three parcels on Davison Parkway and walked away from C three heavy commercial to the PU [0:59:45, 1:00:05]: Planned unit development to allow for mixed residential development. The applicant is D. R. Horton, Atlanta East, represented by Tiffany D. Hogan. The property contains three parcels, are listed below in the landlot fifty-seven of District 12 with 79.16 plus minus total acres. [1:00:05, 1:00:25]: Commission recommendation on 092823 denial. Council action on 12-1123 deferred per applicant's request, deferred by applicant on also on four April 18th, 24 and May 13, 24. Council meetings. Community held meetings, uh community meeting held [1:00:25, 1:00:45]: on May first of twenty four. Parcel number zero three zero dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero zero contains seventy three point eight five nine acres. Parcel number zero three zero dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero five contains three point six three six acres and parcel number [1:00:45, 1:01:01]: number 030-01009006 contains 1.369 acres. Mr. Anderson, please. Okay. Thank you. All right. On the screen now is an aerial photo of the low of the site. [1:01:01, 1:01:04]: Of the large parcel, there are three parcels of land. [1:01:07, 1:01:12]: Here's the second parcel. It's a smaller parcel. Located front known Walter Way. [1:01:14, 1:01:20]: Uh parcel three is the smaller of the three parcel it fronts on Davidson Parkway. Um [1:01:22, 1:01:31]: Staff originally um recommended denial of the project. However, our uh analysis was was based on um an LCI study that that is more than twelve years old. [1:01:32, 1:01:45]: And usually um the standard for a study is um 10 years. Um here is uh 2023 zoning map of the property. You can see that it's zone C three. [1:01:47, 1:02:00]: The Future Land Use Map, uh Low Density Mixed Vertical Originally, but uh when we adopted our comp plan back in October we changed it to uh medium density residential. So the applicant didn't need a uh comp plan amendment anymore. [1:02:08, 1:02:28]: So I've I m I made this presentation uh several times before, so I'm not gonna go in too deep on it. Um the surrounding land uses to the north of the property is is vacant land, northwest of the property is Clayton County, south is um vacant land, but it was recently approved by the city via CP 22-04. [1:02:28, 1:02:45]: RZ 2022 05 and DRI 3799 for a major mixed use development off Flippin' Road, which is also known as the Reeves Creek Project, Reeves Creek 2 Project. To the southeast, the automobile refurbishing business. [1:02:45, 1:02:48]: Dry time and also uh staff was made aware uh [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: that if the project isn't approved tonight, that drive time is interest is interested in purchasing the purchasing the property and uh expanding their operations in the area. Um they already have the zoning is C three. So if this project isn't approved, Drive Time will acquire the property and expand their operations in the area. [1:03:09, 1:03:24]: east of the property you got North Ridge Crossing 1 subdivision and that is the group that we met with on May 1st and uh they recommended approval and they were in favor of the project. To the west you got uh Interstate 75 and 675. [1:03:29, 1:03:37]: The applicant plans to construct 296 total units, 168 single-family detached dwellings, and 128 townhomes. [1:03:47, 1:04:05]: Here's the um LCI study that I referenced earlier. It's um it's twelve years old. It was done in twenty twelve and it's kinda outdated at this time because like I previously mentioned, um a plan is usually usually only good for ten years due to the changing conditions and development trends inside of the city. [1:04:10, 1:04:19]: The LCI did reference this particular land as to be commercial and wanted to be site of uh a large scale mixed use development. [1:04:20, 1:04:32]: However, due to the frontage, the lack of frontage for the uh property, um nothing has been developed at this time. Um this is the conceptual site plan for the project. [1:04:35, 1:04:36]: That's the layout. [1:04:41, 1:04:48]: So I I I I don't I don't have any additional um information, Mayor, uh and the applicant is is here. [1:04:48, 1:05:08]: Okay, stand by one second. Mr. Thomas, please. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Okay. Um, just to give a little history, um, this item is in District 2. Uh I've met with the a number of residents in the Homeowns Association. Uh [1:05:08, 1:05:28]: Um Mrs. Hogan has met um with the residents as well. As you mentioned, it's been deferred a couple of times. So we we sort of been in and out with this issue, but what's sort of driving [1:05:28, 1:05:38]: the complexity of this issue, as you mentioned, um, drivetime refurbishing business and [1:05:40, 1:05:45]: that's a history that's been a little baffling because [1:05:45, 1:05:49]: Um past administration allowed [1:05:50, 1:06:05]: um this residential component plus um this other heavy commercial component which does not mix but um it is what it is now. [1:06:05, 1:06:08]: Um, and I've been asked by some council members [1:06:09, 1:06:11]: uh about this issue [1:06:11, 1:06:13]: And at one point we talked about [1:06:14, 1:06:18]: Um this area being a large tract. [1:06:19, 1:06:21]: And would be great for commercial. [1:06:22, 1:06:23]: Excuse me. [1:06:24, 1:06:29]: Because this is one of the um lasting areas that we could come with commercial. [1:06:30, 1:06:50]: And and from my understanding from the residents, and and some of them are here tonight, um, we're not 100% opposed to the mixture with commercial, but it's the unknown of what commercial may come in. But and I don't want to use the word [1:06:50, 1:07:00]: and and I won't use the word, but just the fact that um the present zoning is uh [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: For a heavy commercial. [1:07:02, 1:07:04]: And that's the fear. [1:07:05, 1:07:07]: that I know that many of these um [1:07:08, 1:07:13]: homeowners have is is that if it is denied and if it stays with [1:07:13, 1:07:33]: Uh and you mentioned this as well. If it stays heavy commercial, then that door is open for not only drive time but any other um heavy commercial that can actually come in. Um so that's sort of a little the history, but in meeting with Mrs. [1:07:33, 1:07:36]: Hogan a couple of times and with the residents. [1:07:36, 1:07:39]: We sort of talked about some [1:07:39, 1:07:59]: uh amendments and some some changes uh to the plan and I know she's gonna speak to some of that here shortly. And I think the citizens were and I'm not gonna speak for them, they're gonna be able to speak for themselves. But they was we were sorta okay with with some of the changes. But um [1:07:59, 1:08:19]: From the city standpoint, as far as this track of land being for that commercial. And I'm going to uh year to the concerns of the citizens uh as far as the unknown. Um and and this track [1:08:19, 1:08:39]: Of land is very close to the residential structure. So if you're talking about bringing in commercial and you're talking the unknown, that's that's fearful. So I just want to sort of give counsel a little history that, you know, we have met. [1:08:39, 1:08:51]: several times with the developers and some concessions have been made and hopefully um some of that will come out tonight [1:08:51, 1:08:55]: um that would be satisfactory for [1:08:56, 1:08:58]: um the homeowners and [1:08:58, 1:09:02]: I'm not sure if the council and the city I know we want it [1:09:02, 1:09:04]: A commercial component. [1:09:04, 1:09:09]: I I I just don't know if that's gonna happen tonight, but um [1:09:11, 1:09:25]: My role here tonight is just to share that information. And as again, as a representative for that particular area, I have met with the Homeowners Association of Citizen. So I do have a feel for [1:09:25, 1:09:27]: Uh their concerns. [1:09:27, 1:09:29]: And so I just want to share that. [1:09:30, 1:09:32]: Thank you. Yeah, okay, Ms. Alzheimer, please comment. [1:09:34, 1:09:54]: Uh thank you, Councilman. So certainly you've done the homework and you've done the work and you've met with the residents to uh garner their feedback and we'll hear from them tonight. Uh if you do recall, I certainly wanted to let you take the lead since it's in your district, that um they were tasked with bringing [1:09:54, 1:10:14]: Back a rendition with some amount of commercial before they came back to us. And the idea, as far as I thought, what we were going for was we're gonna try to give the residents in North Bridge Crossing some relief from having those tractors go through the middle. [1:10:14, 1:10:34]: Of their neighborhood. With this particular design, I don't see any pass-through roadway that will connect with the flippin' road development so that residents can have uh so those residents in those new, it's about a thousand units, will have access to Davison Parkway. [1:10:34, 1:10:54]: This neighborhood seems to close off all options going to Davison Parkway. And to me, we went, we took tireless hours in planning that flippin' road development so that this and I and maintain this so that [1:10:54, 1:11:14]: that it would offer those residents some access to Davidson Parkway. And you know, I don't know where maybe I'm just missing it on here, Ryan. Where this looks like it's a closed in subdivision and it does not offer any option to connect to the parcel to the south. So [1:11:14, 1:11:20]: So those residents will have access to Davison Parkway and they won't all have to go off on flipping. [1:11:20, 1:11:32]: Yeah, that's true. I'll let um Tiffany come up and speak on that, but uh she's in the audience. But it looks to be closed, appears to be, yes, sir. She'll have her opportunity in just a second to do that. [1:11:33, 1:11:53]: Right. And I think the second concern was again, um, you know, uh this is very intensive and certainly um as far as the residents are concerned, you know, um with that frontage along I seventy five, we did want to have some commercial uh in pretty much all of these developments. So [1:11:53, 1:12:13]: When you left your home in Northbridge or one of the surrounding subdivisions, that you would have, you wouldn't have to drive far in order to have some type of uh retail there for you to be able to access. Because driving out on 138, we want you to be able to walk to this commercial park. [1:12:13, 1:12:33]: parcel to be able to use it versus having just all uh additional homes. And then lastly, I think we just went through a really extensive presentation with the county about building residential and billing commercial. Some of that commercial has to be resolved with paying for some of these [1:12:33, 1:12:53]: additional homes uh that will go. Certainly I think this is a more desirable outcome than the that what was mentioned which is a C3 because uh being a C3 uh an expanding of the existing business that were there would actually create uh [1:12:53, 1:13:13]: more of the traffic that we see uh going through uh the North Bridge subdivision. And uh certainly uh that is regrettable that that ever happened, that uh though that that development was approved with the access for the tractors going through the middle of a subdivision, which is just unbelievable. So [1:13:13, 1:13:26]: So my desire in all of this has been a desire to offer the residents an opportunity to get those tractors out of the subdivision and have some type of access through this area to Davidson Parkway. [1:13:28, 1:13:48]: All right. Thank you for the comments. If uh if there are no other comments from the council right now. I do. Oh I'm sorry, go write it, please. I do. Um and perhaps uh when the Miss Logan does her presentation, it won't answer the question. That's what's coming next, but go ahead. Sh I was gonna call her up next, but go ahead with your comment. Okay, I'll wait then. All right, fine. Thank you. All right, on that I need the applicant, Miss [1:13:48, 1:14:08]: Tiffany quant won't you come up here and make it anything else right now, Ryan? I have one question. I'm sorry. Go right in. Well she can come on up, but I I do have a question. Okay. Like the houses look everything looks so close together based off of this. Now it could be very well be different. But we did discuss a commercial component. Um and I do have [1:14:08, 1:14:28]: have concerns about that. I also have concerns because I'm looking at the other surrounding neighborhoods around it. For instance, North Bridge Crossing, which has outlets on Davison Parkway and Walter Way, and to be constructed with those sidewalks, um, in addition to the other areas. And all of the [1:14:28, 1:14:33]: Are we not requiring mixed use? [1:14:33, 1:14:35]: Residential slash commercial. [1:14:36, 1:14:38]: If this is medium density, [1:14:38, 1:14:44]: Um, I just I have some issues about that. Um, and I just I don't [1:14:45, 1:14:46]: I don't see it working. [1:14:47, 1:14:50]: I don't think it's something I that the community would want. [1:14:50, 1:14:55]: And that that's just me talking in that instance. I'm I'm gonna go based off of [1:14:55, 1:14:57]: Whoever the district representative is. [1:14:57, 1:15:00]: But um and and I'll you know [1:15:01, 1:15:03]: Respect the wishes of the community. [1:15:03, 1:15:05]: But I'm looking here [1:15:05, 1:15:12]: Um, for instance, you know, we talk about that C three wick the QTOM or whatever the name of the group are are. [1:15:13, 1:15:14]: And um [1:15:14, 1:15:30]: They were established before the subdivision was established, just so people know. They were established in two thousand three, May fifteenth, two thousand three, that C three component was made and then they put a neighborhood in front of it. So for history purposes, just so you know. [1:15:31, 1:15:37]: That was poor planning. We weren't up here, right? But we're here now. And I wanna make sure. [1:15:37, 1:15:38]: Um [1:15:40, 1:15:40]: Um [1:15:40, 1:15:48]: that whatever we give right now is is quality and something that, you know, the our community will want. [1:15:49, 1:15:51]: And it looks very similar. [1:15:52, 1:15:53]: To what you brought back. [1:15:54, 1:15:55]: What you brought the first time? [1:15:55, 1:15:58]: I don't really see a lot of changes here, if if any. [1:15:58, 1:16:04]: And maybe you can help point those out to me, but we definitely talked about a commercial piece. [1:16:06, 1:16:06]: Okay. [1:16:07, 1:16:16]: May I miss the mayor? Yes, yes, Tiffany, you can go to along with your presentation now. Thank you. Tiffany Hogan, 1371, Dogwood Drive, Conyers, Georgia. [1:16:17, 1:16:37]: I am here representing D.R. Horton this evening as the Vice President of Ford Planning. Uh first to begin starting off addressing some of your main concerns. Uh the plan that you see is very similar, and the reason that it was deferred previously is because we did attempt for what six months now to add a [1:16:37, 1:16:57]: commercial component to the site. The reason that uh as we previously discussed, we had one of the uh largest commercial brokers in the metro area take a look at this to see if he could shop it around to some of his clients. Uh he made comments and did not believe that it was something [1:16:57, 1:17:17]: That was viable for him. You will see his quote in here a little bit later. And so what we did during the last six months is we actually went to this corner adjacent piece. Unfortunately, I don't have a pointer, but it's kind of that mint green piece that's there in the corner because we learned that it was under contract for a commercial. [1:17:16, 1:17:36]: Commercial use and we wanted to be able to connect with them for a commercial component here. What we have since learned is that is that it was a use that I think would have actually made this council even less happy, probably. And we did not feel like it would be a good connection for a community. [1:17:36, 1:17:42]: community of our future homeowners, which is why we did not choose to take that path. [1:17:43, 1:17:48]: Looking at this, I'm going to use this just for a second before I get deep into my presentation. [1:17:48, 1:18:08]: You do have Walter Way here, and then you have Davis Drive, and you have I-75 here. Although it is visible from I-75, there is not frontage access to I-75. So that is one of the main problems for a commercial use at this location, is those things that would be deemed your salt after crack. [1:18:08, 1:18:25]: commercial uses have not seemed to be interested in this piece because again, it has been zoned for 20 plus years and sitting here. And until we went under contract, there was very little movement other than an attempt to rezone it a few years ago that was unsuccessful as well. [1:18:29, 1:18:42]: Staff already showed you this map here. So this is the current piece. It was changed to medium density residential. And as you'll see from the next slide, we have 3.7 units per acre, which does fall into your medium density. [1:18:52, 1:19:12]: Uh three point seven units per acre is seventy-nine total acres with the development. So councilwallman, one of the things that you mentioned is when you're looking at it, the homes look very close together. It is a conceptual site plan. The layout of the community as far as the lot sizes are pretty similar to North Bridge phase one that is across the street. [1:19:12, 1:19:27]: There is actually 36% open space with this development or 45% of the entire site. And again, as staff mentioned, 296 total units, 128 of those is townhomes, 168 as single family detached. [1:19:28, 1:19:29]: Excuse me. [1:19:29, 1:19:34]: We are seeking to rezone it from C three, which is heavy commercial, to the plan unit development. [1:19:34, 1:19:54]: Ooh, that came out rather small there on my screen. It looked fine, but it sounds like you've all done a bit of your homework and you know the uses now that would be available as a C3 development. Um so those are those uses there, which include automobile brokers, automobile gasoline sales, so a gas station, commercial parking garages and lots. [1:19:54, 1:20:03]: Commuter transit, such as buses and trains, farmers markets, many warehouses and storage buildings, among other things there. [1:20:03, 1:20:23]: A few more details on the site here. There is a five-foot setback between each home, so 10 feet total between the homes, a 20-foot front yard setback, and if it's a corner lot, it is a five-foot setback. The townhomes are 24 feet wide, and those are two car garage townhomes. [1:20:23, 1:20:43]: And the lots are 50 foot by 110 feet deep. So that's a 50-foot frontage on those homes there. Uh we wanted to pay close attention as well to additional parking spaces for guests. So we were strategic with that. There is parking. Again, I apologize, there's not a corner here, but if you see the pond. [1:20:43, 1:20:50]: That's in the top north side of the project. There's a an additional guest parking space there. [1:20:50, 1:21:10]: And in the townhome section is really where we thought people would need more additional guest parking. And so there's guest parking when you enter, which is where the mail kiosk will be, as well as guest parking that's kind of down at the corner. So place those throughout the community so that people could park in various places and still walk to the home that they are coming to. [1:21:10, 1:21:30]: To visit. The area that has the little red patch there in the middle is where the main amenity area would be. We are proposing a pool, a clubhouse, a playground, and four play courts or pickleball courts in that area. Then in the lower corner of the project, there will also be a pocket park that's specific to the townhome. [1:21:30, 1:21:46]: community that may include adult walking area or a picnic area or something else in that pocket park as well. This is the quote that I was referencing a while ago from the commercial broker. He has been in the industry for more than 20 years. [1:21:46, 1:22:06]: He is one of the most sought after commercial brokers in the area. We wanted to go to an expert to understand why no commercial, such as what you all have spoken of, has sought out this piece. And this was his quote. And again, he did not seek the opportunity to shop around the site to get it to any of his commercial clients, which is pretty telling. [1:22:08, 1:22:28]: Uh North Bridge Crossing Phase Two, what we're currently calling it, because you'll see in a minute that one of the things that came out from meeting with the community is that they actually requested that we don't name it North Bridge Crossing Phase Two in order to alleviate uh confusion with their phase of the community original phase. But we want to maintain a family-friendly and [1:22:28, 1:22:48]: Environment in this area. That's one of the things that the community really, really expressed during our meetings with them was that they would much rather see residential stuff there and stuff that makes it a home environment for them rather than more commercial being in the area. We wanted to seek the ability to create a connection between research. [1:22:48, 1:23:08]: Creek and community of potential users, as Councilman Alexander spoke to. We did take a look at that. If I go back for a second here to the site plan, unfortunately what we have learned since we first filed this application is that some promises were made to you about a stub rope being placed on the Reeves Creek side and there being a potential for connectivity. [1:23:08, 1:23:28]: As you see, there's a creek there, and also there is a 30-foot drop on that side. So we did have our engineers explore the possibility of how to make a vehicular connection between that, and it is just so taxing to do it and potentially dangerous as well for a 30-foot drop to be able to build that. [1:23:28, 1:23:39]: that up from the other site and create that vehicular connection that it just was not feasible for this. Where that little arc is just above the creek is where the potential Reeves Creek site is located. [1:23:41, 1:24:01]: Um again there hasn't been interest in years for the existing site as a commercial development, and the community did express that they don't want any additional heavy truck traffic coming through. This development obviously would not be heavy truck truck traffic coming through for the community. We also have a traffic impact study that was provided to staff and to council. [1:24:01, 1:24:21]: previously that determined that there would not be a significant impact on the roadways from the additional traffic from the community. There will be two deceleration lanes that are added on each side, one at Walter Way and one at Davis Parkway, so that people can pull off the road in order to be able to turn into the community safely. [1:24:26, 1:24:36]: This is a rendering, uh actually a actual photo of a clubhouse that would be similar uh to the one that would be there and the pool. [1:24:38, 1:24:58]: And as I spoke about the proposed conditions, there are a few things first that I want to iterate reiterate. Uh there's no access from the site to I seventy five. There will be sidewalks on both sides of the streets internally for walkability and connectivity throughout the community. So if people want to walk for exercise, walk to neighbors houses, whatever. [1:24:58, 1:25:17]: they will be able to walk throughout the community. Where we have frontage on the exterior of the property, there will also be sidewalks that will be installed there so that people can walk wherever there's sidewalk connection to other properties or what the city has provided. We have also [1:25:17, 1:25:21]: Uh from the community meetings there was a concern [1:25:22, 1:25:36]: The site plan that you saw that staff had up had homes that were located in that dark green area at the top. The mint green homes are already existing. Those were a part of North Bridge phase one that were put in across the street. [1:25:37, 1:25:50]: where the the dark green is directly across from that. We had homes planned there initially and one of the comments that came from the existing residents was a request to remove those. So those have been removed. [1:25:50, 1:25:58]: So the original site plan was 311 units, which bring brought this one down to 296 units. That was the reason for the reduction there. [1:25:58, 1:26:13]: We also changed some of the road connectivity in order to make it connected throughout. Again, that was another comment and request that we heard was that people wanted to be able to have a continuous loop. And so we made that change as well. And then also, as I mentioned, [1:26:15, 1:26:27]: We thank you all and I will put the proposed condition screen up so that you can't. Council, I'm I'm assuming you'd be more than willing to give her more time to finish her presentation. Yes. Okay. Yes. Well. [1:26:28, 1:26:48]: Yes, I'm I'm in agreement with the addition of time, but I did want to address a question or two when we get a chance. Okay, sure, no problem. Continue on, please. Yes, sir. Um so again, the third thing was to not name it North Bridge Crossing Phase Two, which we have agreed to. The proposed conditions that we came up as a result of the meetings with the community [1:26:48, 1:26:50]: hearing feedback from staff and from the councilmen. [1:26:50, 1:27:10]: Or number one, developer will remove the 15 homes plan for the front of the community as were reflected on the 12-7-2023 site plan, and we have made that revision. Number two, developer will select a name for the development that does not reference North Bridge. Number three, developer will place the main entrance monument for the development at the Davidson. [1:27:10, 1:27:30]: Entrance in order to encourage usage of this entrance as the main entrance. A secondary entrance will be located off Walter Way and both entrances will remain as full access. That was something that also came from the community. They actually preferred that some of the traffic be diverted from Walter W and instead driven over to Davis Drive. [1:27:30, 1:27:46]: And so in order to help encourage that, we will put the main monument sign on that side. We have proposed a rental cap. No more than 5% of the homes may be used as rental property. And number five, there shall be a mandatory homeowners association within the community. [1:27:49, 1:28:02]: This is just some um notes on the homes that will be included in the community. Again, all two-car garages, even the townhomes. All of the homes have three to five bedrooms, the townhomes included. The townhome standard is three bedrooms. [1:28:02, 1:28:15]: There is an option for each one of the end units to have a four-bedroom unit, and that's only one of those per building, a mandatory homeowners association, and then the amenities that I spoke of. [1:28:16, 1:28:36]: D.R. Horton is extremely committed to creating home ownership. And so when we speak of having commercial in the area and bringing jobs to your area, employment, which all bring up the economic development of the area, the jobs have to have somewhere to go home at night and sleep. And so that's what we want to do here is bring some diversity in housing project. [1:28:36, 1:28:56]: product to the area where people can purchase affordable quality homes. A part of our commitment to that is D.R. Horton actually also provides incentives to certain folks that we consider hometown heroes. So military, law enforcement, firefighters, healthcare professionals, educators, all they have to do is show their IDs and they receive an automatic incentive. [1:28:56, 1:29:07]: incentive towards home purchase. Again, as a part of our commitment to home ownership and success in that, we have the Home Buyers Club, which is a free program for people to participate in. [1:29:07, 1:29:22]: even if they end up not purchasing a DR Horton home. And what that does is help them become creditworthy for purchasing homes, teaches them about the finances of home ownership, and hopefully that way they are able to maintain their homes for years to come and help to build generational wealth. [1:29:25, 1:29:40]: And I am happy to entertain any questions that any other council members Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Thank you, Mayor. Uh Mrs. Hovind, you you thought of answered uh a few questions that I had. Um, but if you would for the council [1:29:40, 1:29:43]: Um the the the fifteen homes that were removed [1:29:44, 1:29:46]: Uh just so council would know. [1:29:46, 1:29:51]: Uh they were located directly f across from the pool house. [1:29:52, 1:29:53]: And the whole intent [1:29:53, 1:30:13]: And even with the uh ingress and egress, as you mentioned, trying to direct more of that on Davison Parkway as opposed to Walter Way, uh, to try to minimize as much traffic on Walterway that we can. That was one of the things that the residents would. [1:30:13, 1:30:32]: really concerned about. Now with the removal of the fifteen units, um can you elaborate what will now substitute would it be green space, would it be a parking park? Um we sort of talked about trails. Can you elaborate on some of that? [1:30:32, 1:30:51]: Yes, sir. So what you're looking at on the screen right now is staff's version of the site plan, which shows those 15 homes there. And then if I switch over, you see the 15 homes have been removed. So that area we do have planned to be an additional pocket part. We talked about there being an edible garden there, um, perhaps some um [1:30:52, 1:31:10]: uh uh grill area or something like that to add an additional park pocket park to the community as well. And then you are correct, sir, again sidewalks on both sides of the street throughout the community. So right there off of that area, you'll be able to connect and walk the entire property if you chose to. [1:31:11, 1:31:24]: So i if you would, can you indicate how many units would be closer to Walterway and how many units would be closer to uh Davison Parkway? [1:31:24, 1:31:44]: Um, so the ones right now, if you're speaking on the side of the creek, so the north side of the creek, those green unit, the mint green units that you see there that have numbers in them, again, those are already existing there as of today. So we have not planned any new homes to be constructed north of the [1:31:44, 1:32:04]: Creek site that would be closer to North Bridge Crossing Phase One. All of the development that we currently have planned would start south of the creek crossing, which is a little bit into the development and pulls those away from the current North Bridge phase. The townhomes are over on the [1:32:04, 1:32:11]: the west side of the um property. And so there uh it's 128 townhomes total. [1:32:12, 1:32:25]: So it depends on, you know, your definition and what you're considering closer to Davis Way, but the town home units are the ones that are c planned closer to Davis. And and and and again I'm not gonna speak for the homeowners, but it was a concern about [1:32:25, 1:32:27]: Uh traffic on um [1:32:27, 1:32:29]: Walter Way. [1:32:29, 1:32:48]: Uh trying to minimize that. And so I was trying to give everybody a picture of how many even though we did remove the fifteen units, but how many um home would still be closer to uh entering and exiting um on the walk away side. [1:32:49, 1:33:09]: You know, honestly, with the design the way that it is now, if you come in off Davis, you have homes that are on um kind of the north side of Davis Road, and it's just a few of those. Uh it looks like probably between the town homes and the single family. I can't count them exactly a little small on my screen here, but less than twenty that are on that. [1:33:09, 1:33:29]: At Northside. So those would probably be the folks that would be coming from Walterway. And a bit of it depends on which way they're coming from town, to be quite honest, uh, where they're coming from. But with us directing that traffic to come primarily through Davis, uh, I would believe with the main entrance being there, particularly guest traffic, definitely would come. [1:33:29, 1:33:41]: through that access point more likely than the one off of Walway. But if you come in off of Davis, it connects throughout the entire community. So Walway is just an alternative essentially. Right. [1:33:41, 1:34:01]: And I know Councilman Alexander is gonna weigh in on this, but I would be okay with uh you or council speaking more to um the construction side. Uh I know we spend a lot of times dealing with some of the other issues and not with the [1:34:01, 1:34:05]: quality of the construction. Can you can you speak to some of that? [1:34:05, 1:34:25]: Absolutely. Uh so the homes would be constructed out of a mixture of materials for the front elevation. The materials that we use for siding is a Hardy cement, is probably the uh brand that you hear most often. It's a cement fiberboard. Hardy is a brand of it. Uh if there is shake on the homes, which we sometimes do for a decorative architectural feature. [1:34:25, 1:34:45]: Just like in the gable area, that is a cement product as well. So those products tend to last longer, have more durability. People need to press what pressure wash them a little bit less often, which keeps them looking really nice. We are the number one home builder in the country. Last year we closed the millionth home. This year we're on track to close our [1:34:45, 1:35:05]: 100,000 more homes with the closest competitor being probably 10,000 homes away from us. So, you know, I say all that to say there's a way that we've figured out to make things work. And, you know, we don't hide the ball. There's absolutely stuff out there that you will hear that's negative as well. But one of the things that's really excellent about us is we [1:35:05, 1:35:25]: We have a great warranty program. Our warranty manager for our particular division has been with us for almost 30 years. So she probably does this stuff in her sleep. But as long as we know about the issue and it's entered into the portal correctly, it is an issue that we can take care of, and I can assure you we do take care of. At these public hearings, [1:35:25, 1:35:45]: I've had people before come up and say, DR Horton didn't fix this, they didn't do this. I asked them for their address and stuff afterwards. We look in the portal. It turns out that they never reported it to us. We can't fix what we don't know. But what we in turn do is because we didn't have the address, we're able to reach out to them, say one of our representatives heard from you that they had an issue, and they're able to [1:35:45, 1:36:05]: To then see if there's something that can be done to rectify the issue. In some of the larger situations that you've heard about or may have read about, those cases are likely third parties that were doing some work for us. And I can assure you that those people no longer do work for us if there is a major issue that causes a problem. So we are very serious. [1:36:05, 1:36:15]: about our programming. We call it a five-star program. There are surveys throughout the process for homeowners to be able to let us know how we're doing and what needs may need repair. [1:36:16, 1:36:17]: Thank you. [1:36:18, 1:36:27]: Any other questions, Council? Yes. Cool. Ms. Barber Goy, please. She had her hand up. Okay, so I have several questions actually. [1:36:28, 1:36:48]: It's difficult for me to really understand the areas that you are describing. I want to see how many entrance and exit points from the total development. Sure. So there are two full access points for the community. Full access means you can come in and go out. [1:36:48, 1:37:08]: It's not a right-on entrance or anything. So there is one that is at Walter Way that the driveway should align with the development across the street because that is something that your DOT is going to require, is that those access points align for safety purposes. The other one is right there in that curve on Davis Drive. If you're looking at my screen now, [1:37:08, 1:37:14]: Closest to where it says presentation, that gray that comes out of there is the other full access point. [1:37:16, 1:37:16]: Okay. [1:37:19, 1:37:30]: Okay. Um did you mention five feet between each unit? Or is that just a setback? It's a five foot setback, side setback. [1:37:30, 1:37:31]: Okay. [1:37:32, 1:37:32]: Yep. [1:37:32, 1:37:35]: Which means ten feet between the units. Okay. [1:37:35, 1:37:36]: Um [1:37:37, 1:37:57]: I'm not really a big fan of high density residential. Sorry. Um and besides, that just seems like it's a lot of units just compacted together. But of course I will follow the lead of the city council representative for the district. [1:37:58, 1:38:13]: They would hope my councilmates would do the same when proposals are coming to my district as well. And again, this uh I'm sorry for you. Um just as a reminder, is three point seven four units per acre for density, which falls into your medium density category. [1:38:16, 1:38:17]: Thank you. Um [1:38:18, 1:38:21]: Tell me again the breakdown a hundred and twenty eight town homes. [1:38:22, 1:38:37]: Uh it's a hundred and twenty eight twenty four foot town homes and a hundred and sixty eight single family detached homes, which are your traditional homes. These are single family detached homes. The other the ones that kinda look yellow on the screen are detached, yes ma'am. Nice. [1:38:38, 1:38:42]: I'm sure they would prefer those, but just not the density. Um [1:38:43, 1:38:45]: The price points. [1:38:45, 1:38:46]: Can you talk about that? [1:38:47, 1:39:07]: Sure. So I can give you an estimate based on today's cost. So one of the things that I thought Councilman Thomas was leading to with this question was timing. And so I'll speak to timing a little bit because that speaks to the price point. So being here today, seeking this zoning, means that if approved today, we would then have to apply for the land disturbance process. [1:39:07, 1:39:27]: Permit and go through everything where your engineers and your planning department and everyone else digs through with a fine-tooth comb. We estimate approximately six to eight months for that process to take place. So if we're now in June, obviously it would be the end of the year before we anticipated getting a land disturbance permit, meaning that at that time, that's when [1:39:27, 1:39:47]: When we can actually start moving dirt to grade the site. Grading the site will likely take another uh nine months or so to get it to a point where we could go vertical with the first house, the first home being constructed. So it would be sometime around September of next year, 2025, before you're looking at actually beginning to sell your first. [1:39:47, 1:39:50]: home is what we would estimate and anticipate. [1:39:50, 1:40:10]: So if I were looking at today's market, keeping in mind we won't go vertical with the first one until sometime next year, then we would estimate that the townhomes would likely fall somewhere uh between the 325 range, starting probably up to 350-ish, um, and then the homes, the single-family detached homes. [1:40:10, 1:40:21]: would likely start around 350 and go up from there. We will always follow the direction of the market with the sales prices. And if there is an opportunity to, you know [1:40:22, 1:40:35]: arrange those prices based on the market, then we op we make those changes. There is someone in our office that every day her job is to just look at the price of materials and everything else and do the market analysis and adjust prices as such. [1:40:36, 1:40:56]: Okay. With the townhomes, I know you mentioned three bedrooms. Are they all three bedroom units? With the exception of one unit on the end of each building, could potentially be a four-bedroom. Okay. And what's the square footage of the three-bedroom? The townhomes. Uh it's a uh 1860, those start at they range from 1860 to [1:40:56, 1:40:57]: eighteen ninety. [1:41:03, 1:41:23]: And the single detached homes? The ranch product that we have planned for this community is a little bit over 1,800 square feet. That would be the smallest plan within there. It is the number one plan in the entire United States. Sells very well, very popular with folks that don't want stairs, that want kind of the house to be all [1:41:23, 1:41:32]: All be there in one area. So that would be the smallest, and it would range up to about just under 3,000 square feet for the largest. [1:41:32, 1:41:38]: I did not share a conceptual of the homes. [1:41:38, 1:41:39]: Do you have [1:41:40, 1:41:56]: Uh I do not have those with me today, but uh that eighteen hundred square foot plan that I mentioned, uh like I said, it's the number one selling plan in the market. Uh I can give you some communities uh in a moment that you could look at the website and see those homes. Okay. [1:41:58, 1:42:01]: That's all I have for now. Thank you. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:42:03, 1:42:16]: I don't even know where to start. Let me just say, this is the exact same plan that we deferred. This is the exact same plan coming back to us with all of these homes on it with no commercial. [1:42:16, 1:42:36]: There th this plan destroys our transportation plan because there's no through road from Flippin' Road to Davison Parkway. And you got all of these homes going on a two-lane road with no access out there with no future improvement. I do have good news for the residents on Flippin' Road, it's gonna go on Splash 6. [1:42:36, 1:42:40]: You're gonna get a chance to vote to widen flippin' road. [1:42:40, 1:43:00]: If you say yes. If you say no, there won't be any money for it. So it's gonna be up to the residents to do that. So the major transportation plan and the DRI that Mr. Anderson spoke to, that he says is too old for this area, call for a through road through this development. [1:43:00, 1:43:20]: That would run parallel with I-75 and kind of connect the area and go over the flipping road. This development does not do that. I thought that was our number one charge was to have the through road. If you're a resident over there in North Bridge Crossing, this development means that you will be stuck with those tractor trailers. [1:43:20, 1:43:23]: Coming through your subdivision for the rest of your life. [1:43:24, 1:43:30]: This development offers an opportunity for us to move traffic through here. [1:43:31, 1:43:51]: From Flippin' Road to Davidson Parkway, and it would give you an opportunity to leave your house, go through this area, and go down the Flippin' Road where it'll be four lanes or access it, it gives you multiple access. This is not the plan that we asked for. We asked for some that the reason that uh we asked for the commercial was so that [1:43:50, 1:44:10]: We limited commercial, that there would be a through road. And the reason that this property has not had any commercial development with it at this point was because there was not enough residential. But we just approved 1,200 new residential units on Flippin' Road that's going to serve the [1:44:10, 1:44:30]: Commercial component of this. But I tell you, residents, I'm looking at this and saying, wow, you're gonna be stuck with those tractor trailers coming through your neighborhood forever if this is approved. I I say that you that there needs to be a revision to this plan, even if there is residential, so [1:44:30, 1:44:50]: There will be a through road. It destroys our trail plan because we had planned on having the road come through there, allow the trails to run along the road and connect the Davison Parkway so that you could leave your home, ride your bike from your neighborhood down the flipping road, down to Walt Stevens, through here. [1:44:50, 1:44:54]: this is built, we can't do any of that. So [1:44:55, 1:45:15]: I'm I'm confused at how we got to this point because when we deferred this, the whole point was to have it be so that we have a through road. I heard I with all due respect, ma'am, it is gonna be expensive. You gotta build a bridge. You don't wanna build a bridge. And the problem is that bridge needs to be built. And the reason [1:45:15, 1:45:35]: that we set this up so a bridge would have to be built at some point to connect this. And the and nobody wants to build that bridge. And the reason that we understood and what we wanted the mixed use is because the businesses and the commercial d development would help pay for the bridge and the development [1:45:34, 1:45:39]: Whereas residential probably would not. And and and for me. [1:45:39, 1:45:59]: Could I support this? I could not because it is it is a it is counterproductive to our transportation plan that we have talked about. It's country it's counterproductive to our trail plan and it is very dense development that offers no opportunity for transportation improvements that would get the residents out. [1:45:59, 1:46:19]: The residents are gonna be in a worse situation than they much worse situation today than they would be uh uh in tomorrow if this is approved versus they're in today without the commercial because the commercial would give you an opportunity, it would be less intense, the cars will be coming and going. These cars are gonna be there every day, every day. [1:46:19, 1:46:24]: Every day coming out onto uh there with no other access. [1:46:24, 1:46:44]: I I don't understand how we got from you were here and we talked about the commercial component. We talked about the through road. You took notes on that. There's no through road and there's no commercial component. But as I said, and I'm gonna finish with this, is that the reason that this commercial component, which is we've talked about [1:46:44, 1:47:04]: This forever has not moved forward because there wasn't enough residential. But that we've already approved the rooftops. We all on this council have seen it work. We go to those ribbon cuttings at Jodico every single week because this is what they want first. But this development right here, I'm I'm just scratching my head that we didn't. [1:47:04, 1:47:22]: And we didn't do any of the things that we deferred for. And I and I don't understand why we did not do the through roll and why do we not why do we not even attempt to do the through road and you said because of the the bridge, the bridge is going to be expensive, but certainly you're not willing to build a bridge? [1:47:23, 1:47:32]: May I respond, Mr. Mayor? Okay. So not to make this a debate, Mr. Alexander, but as stated previously, we did take those six months in order to [1:47:33, 1:47:53]: check feasibility, to check safety, to check engineering. And as previously stated, there is a thirty foot drop there. I understand what you have previously seen, but as discussed that LCI is from twelve years ago. The zoning for this property is over twenty years old. That rezoning with Reeves Creek that you speak of, those rooftops were approved about a year ago. [1:47:52, 1:48:12]: at this time, maybe just a little bit less. But what I can tell you, because we are in constant contact with the seller and he has advised us as to who has been in touch with him, it has not been any commercial as you speak of. As this far as this road being put in, it's not that we don't want to put a bridge in because that has been done on projects where it is feasible. [1:48:12, 1:48:32]: And it is efficient to do so. With a 30-foot drop, it's not. And I'm of it's unfortunate that promises were made to you and things were shown that actually do not make sense for development. So that is, we have some of the top engineers that have taken a look at this. We've looked at the traffic impact study, all of the costs. [1:48:32, 1:48:52]: Cars will not be leaving the community at the same time. As I said, the level of service that they evaluated from that traffic impact service will remain at a B or better for these roads. So, you know, that's where we are with it. The seller has not had anyone else that has reached out to him other than the use that staff has previously. [1:48:52, 1:48:56]: previously mentioned since the Reeves Creek development was approved. [1:48:58, 1:49:18]: Upon that, I'll follow up and then say generally, as we said, once we saw the construction started, uh Council, is that that's when we saw things started to happen. And we have it um coming here. And I I just I don't know, I'm not an engineer, but I went to Savannah and there's a two or three hundred-foot tall bridge. [1:49:18, 1:49:38]: That they use to cross that we cross when we go down there. So I don't know what engineers said we can't compensate for a 30-foot drop. But in the end, this plan right here, I would ask that you go back and look at some of the things that we originally asked for, and then you would come. [1:49:38, 1:49:47]: Back to us with what we will some of the things that we asked for. Because in this present state, it would just be nearly impossible for me to support this. [1:49:48, 1:49:49]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:49:50, 1:49:51]: Thank you. [1:49:52, 1:50:00]: I the the houses up closer to walk away, there's some spots there. Is that parking? Like it's gray with little s dots. [1:50:01, 1:50:12]: Wha what exactly is that? It's closer to that's the creek. That's the buffer for the creek area. That's the required state and federal buffers around the street. But there's like gray area like there's actually subdivided lots. [1:50:13, 1:50:20]: Those are the homes that are existing from phase one. The ones that are right adjacent to Walterway. Okay. Those are the phase one houses. All right. [1:50:20, 1:50:37]: And so they would add in addition to that? Those are existing as of today. Okay. That would not be a part of our proposed development. Well not that, but the yellow ones with the circle right next to it are added to the old existing, correct? Correct. All right. And you mentioned [1:50:38, 1:50:38]: Um [1:50:39, 1:50:50]: town homes and have an additional parking in certain areas. And w we Mayor and Council we had a development, I don't know if you remember Councilman Berry, but [1:50:50, 1:50:53]: We talked a little bit about that where [1:50:53, 1:50:55]: It's inconvenient for [1:50:56, 1:51:01]: uh people to park at the entryway or whatever and have to walk to a town hall. [1:51:01, 1:51:02]: So we [1:51:03, 1:51:07]: had decided that we wanted the driveways to be larger. [1:51:07, 1:51:08]: Longer? [1:51:08, 1:51:11]: Right? So that two cars could go in. [1:51:11, 1:51:13]: And two cars could be on the [1:51:13, 1:51:21]: actual driveway, right? Instead of parking in a parking pad somewhere and walking'cause that's unrealistic. [1:51:21, 1:51:36]: People are not don't want to do that, right? So I I definitely can't I I mean, I know if they were at an amenity, they were at a pool, they came to park at that that location, but to say that, oh, when they have guests, they're gonna park [1:51:37, 1:51:46]: in some parking pad and walk all the way down, I I doubt very seriously that would happen. So that's something that concerns me. It it concerns me that it looks like it tr it looks like [1:51:47, 1:51:50]: They wanna get as many houses as they can in here. [1:51:51, 1:51:58]: I mean that's what it looks like. And that doesn't look like quality in me. It just doesn't. And I'm not I'm not trying to be [1:51:59, 1:52:09]: insulting or I'm uh out of concern. It looks like I just wanna cram as much money as I can get out of this community instead of looking at it [1:52:09, 1:52:14]: where it's spaced out and you have maybe a pool here and a park here. [1:52:15, 1:52:17]: You got all these houses just [1:52:18, 1:52:38]: clustered together. It's not something that I want to live in. So I don't know what my community wants to live. I don't I don't think it's I think they should go back to the drawing board. I really do. And and I'm I'm sympathetic to that. I know that it's zone C three. I'm not threatened by that. And the reason why I'm not threatened by that is because there have been proposals [1:52:38, 1:52:54]: of green developments. There have been proposals of other commercial buildings and uses that might actually take place. We're growing by leaps and bounds. There's no secret that we barely have, we have, we don't have a lot of land to choose from. [1:52:54, 1:52:58]: So it's coming, right? It's here. It's already here. [1:52:58, 1:52:59]: And [1:52:59, 1:53:02]: I'd rather take the risk than to put up something poor. [1:53:04, 1:53:24]: So oh may I respond? Go go ahead please. So the guest parking that I mentioned, Councilwoman, is additional parking. The townhomes are two car garages and there's two spots in the driveway for additional two cars to park as well. So there is parking opportunity at each one of the units. There's just additional parking that we've added so that [1:53:24, 1:53:42]: additional guests would be able to park. And then as far as going back to the drawing board, you know, I'll be fully transparent. We've spoken with the seller and as you know we deferred twice already. This application started last year. So if it's not approved tonight, then we are likely going to have to walk away. [1:53:42, 1:53:43]: Okay. [1:53:43, 1:53:44]: Thank you. [1:53:45, 1:53:47]: Got a question. Oh Mr. Thomas Graser. [1:53:48, 1:53:55]: Yeah. Okay. Um let me just say I I as a representative for District Two. [1:53:55, 1:53:58]: Um, I don't have an issue with [1:53:58, 1:54:18]: Councils weighing in. I I think this is the way it's supposed to be because all of these developments throughout the city, you know, we are responsible for all of that. So I don't have any issues with councils weighing in. I I keep hearing, well, this is uh District 2, District 2. Trust me. [1:54:18, 1:54:38]: Me, I don't have issue with that because we have to look at the city as a whole. And I appreciate uh council weighing in with their concerns because when it all comes in, you know, it still falls on us. Because no, as I mentioned all the time, no one council person makes these. [1:54:38, 1:54:50]: decisions. This is a group decision and I appreciate that. But it is disappointing because as Kelson and Alexander indicated when we talked about the flip and road development. [1:54:51, 1:54:53]: You know, the whole stub issue. [1:54:53, 1:54:56]: Was highlighted and we felt then [1:54:56, 1:55:10]: that going forward in the future that this would be. And I do understand uh the thirty foot drop. I know Councilman wanted you to sort of go back. So now is that is that cost [1:55:10, 1:55:13]: Why that cannot be done is it costs? [1:55:14, 1:55:27]: It is not just cost, it's also safety and the development of that because it's not necessarily just a bridge. That's something that an engineer would have to evaluate what actually makes sense to be put there. Um in [1:55:28, 1:55:48]: Being that that was shown on an LCI 12 years ago, you know, is it something that the city is going to look at putting in at some point, putting that boulevard throughout? Um and it sounds like there's no plan for that. Councilman Alexander Alexander mentioned the Splash 6 uh with widening on flipping road. [1:55:48, 1:55:52]: But there doesn't seem to be a plan by the city to put that road in there. [1:55:52, 1:56:12]: So and the other issue when we get back into the commercial part of it. Um, and this is something that we really wanted to see. But I do understand that it's sort of when we spoke earlier and we we we met with the residents, it was sort of like [1:56:12, 1:56:16]: the chicken and the egg, which come first. [1:56:16, 1:56:36]: And what we were told, uh, based on, you know, your research and information, that a lot of those potential commercial felt that this development would sort of be off the beaten path and no one would know that this commercial was there and they wanted to wait. [1:56:36, 1:56:37]: And C [1:56:37, 1:56:39]: No. [1:56:40, 1:56:43]: My issue though is my concern is [1:56:44, 1:56:46]: And if the city of Starkbridge [1:56:46, 1:56:49]: Пудил після. [1:56:50, 1:56:56]: then an adjoining county can come in and put the commercial in. [1:56:56, 1:57:04]: And I don't want to get into that because that should not, in a sense, drive us to what we do. So [1:57:05, 1:57:10]: Let me ask you and maybe I do want Mr. Anderson to come back forward too. [1:57:10, 1:57:12]: But one of the concerns [1:57:13, 1:57:16]: And you're probably gonna hear this from some of the residents when they do come up and speak. [1:57:17, 1:57:37]: that the unknown, we're fearful of the unknown. We don't know what commercial is coming. I know we s we talk retail, restaurant, you know the ideal commercial, but we don't know. And I guess we as a council, I guess we can dictate some of that. And I don't I'm I'm just [1:57:37, 1:57:45]: Speaking from just from what I've heard, I don't think uh residents would be too concerned about those types of commercial. [1:57:45, 1:57:49]: But there probably are some undesirable commercial [1:57:49, 1:57:51]: that would come in because again [1:57:51, 1:57:53]: These units [1:57:53, 1:58:08]: are very close to where they live right now. And I know none of us would want a certain type of commercial business that close to us. So that is sort of a concern. So [1:58:09, 1:58:29]: Speak a little bit more. And I know you mentioned in your research that um that whole commercial piece was not viable for this particular era. But is there any other research that we could do to try to look at the commercial? Now, and I still understand. [1:58:29, 1:58:31]: [7111.5, 7116.9]: your statement that you just made that you all probably withdraw because see that's another issue. [1:58:37, 1:58:48]: If this zoning remains C three and I know I heard from one council person they weren't fearful of that, but my concern is the fear for the homeowners. [1:58:48, 1:58:58]: 'Cause I don't know and I wanted Mr. Anderson to speak to, I know there's not an application right now from drive time to to expand. [1:58:59, 1:59:00]: But [1:59:01, 1:59:05]: Let me just let me just be very clear. I is this a ploy? [1:59:05, 1:59:08]: Uh to for for dry time. [1:59:08, 1:59:16]: I would hate to think that drive time would do these residents like this, even though they were there first, and that someone mentioned. [1:59:16, 1:59:20]: Uh the city should never have approved of a residential. [1:59:20, 1:59:24]: Area anyway. But well here we are. [1:59:24, 1:59:25]: So [1:59:27, 1:59:43]: If you can, Mr. Anderson, speak to that possibility of dry time really expanding,'cause I know I I I just feel if I know if I live there, I would want I would not want that expansion. [1:59:44, 2:00:04]: Well, yes, sir. Um the property zone C three and um drive time is a commercial establishment. So if they purchase the land, they could expand without coming in to s to s before council or they will go straight to the development phase. They don't need a zoning action at all. So they have the zoning in place to expand. [2:00:04, 2:00:12]: If they purchase the land. And that's the fear. So have you had any communications? [2:00:12, 2:00:20]: Uh so how was this how how did we hear about this potential expansion? Well I heard [2:00:20, 2:00:22]: Through a developer. [2:00:25, 2:00:45]: Okay. Well Mayor, I know we need to get to the public hearing, but but I think I think the the Homeown Assace Association and I know the interim president is here and some of the others. I I I think they do appreciate this dialogue because it gives them a little bit more information and a little bit more knowled knowledge. So [2:00:45, 2:01:05]: So I don't think this is a waste of time, us going back and forth, Mrs. Hogan, and asking these questions. But I do understand we have deferred this twice to allow the community to get a little bit more understanding, to inject some of their feelings, et cetera. So, but here we are. [2:01:05, 2:01:05]: Today. [2:01:06, 2:01:14]: And and I I do feel, Councilwoman Gann and Alexander, I do feel where you're coming from, and I'm in agreement with that, but [2:01:14, 2:01:28]: uh I'm still going to uh represent the the homeowners and and it's uh it's just it's unfortunate. It's just one of these kind of situations, you know, blank if you do and blank if you don't. So [2:01:29, 2:01:49]: So maybe I'm just gonna yield back and give the citizens a chance to weigh in on it. Before we do that though, Mr. Barrett, did you have any comments at all? No, sir. You good? Okay. All right. And we're good down on this end, I would imagine. All right. So what we're gonna thank you, Miss Uh Tiffany, Ms. Hogan. We're gonna open up uh public hearing. I already read the public hearing guidelines. We went that initially on another [2:01:49, 2:02:04]: uh subject. So public hearing rules over establish that. So anybody's four. For this to happen, for this development, four on my very left side. If you're four, I need you line up in a aisle right over here. Four. [2:02:05, 2:02:09]: Anybody for it, all right, or agree with this development in the middle. [2:02:12, 2:02:13]: And maybe I'm on the right side. [2:02:15, 2:02:25]: Okay, seeing no one. Anybody's against this particular development the way it stands right now, what it's presented, from my very left side. That's against this development. Wanna make comments? [2:02:25, 2:02:26]: Anybody in the middle? [2:02:30, 2:02:33]: Came before right side. Anybody's against? Make any comments. [2:02:37, 2:02:40]: Any comments at all, folks? I'm gonna close or close it out. [2:02:40, 2:02:46]: If you've got comments, I've I'll offer in the comments so you have public comments at all. What are you a for against? Or you you're for? [2:02:47, 2:02:48]: Okay. [2:02:49, 2:02:58]: Please pay attention, folks. Line up I might line up on that side right there. If you got if you you want to make comments for, is that correct? For the development, please line up on this side. [2:02:58, 2:03:06]: Four folks. Four. We'll go back to four. Make sure. All right. Anybody from on the left side, middle or the right, that's for this development. [2:03:08, 2:03:08]: All right. [2:03:10, 2:03:14]: Ma'am, p come to the podium please, and uh state your name and address. [2:03:16, 2:03:24]: My name is Patricia Smith. Make sure the green lights on, please. It's on. Okay, go ahead. Please in the mic. My name is Patricia Smith. I live at North Bridge Crossing. Is that live or [2:03:25, 2:03:27]: Yeah, could you speak louder please so we can hear you? [2:03:27, 2:03:43]: I can't say that again. Could you speak a little louder, please, in the mic? Patricia Smith. There you go. And I live at North Bridge Crossing. Okay and the president of the H the um HOA. Okay. I am for the development. Okay. Only because [2:03:43, 2:03:51]: I don't want commercial in that area because of the trucks that comes through. We already deal with drive time and the way that the [2:03:52, 2:03:55]: Веркис дві девелмент. [2:03:56, 2:03:57]: Speeding. [2:03:57, 2:04:03]: It's crazy. Okay. So um no, I d I do not want drive time to expand. [2:04:04, 2:04:08]: Now if you're talking about commercial property as far I mean commercial home I mean [2:04:08, 2:04:11]: Developments as far as maybe [2:04:12, 2:04:13]: Good restaurants. [2:04:13, 2:04:15]: Or something you could walk to. [2:04:16, 2:04:17]: That's fine. [2:04:17, 2:04:19]: Беню гарантия? [2:04:20, 2:04:27]: That's the question. I don't know what kind of commercial gonna roll up in there and then have the all these big trucks. [2:04:28, 2:04:30]: coming through that they already tore up the road. [2:04:31, 2:04:38]: Um in our development. The bumpers that this that was put in by the city, they're pretty much flat. [2:04:39, 2:04:45]: From those big trucks that come through our development. They're supposed to come down waterway, they're coming through the side streets. [2:04:46, 2:04:49]: So there's no policeman coming through there to [2:04:49, 2:04:54]: to direct any traffic for us. So no, I don't I'm against um commercial. [2:04:56, 2:05:00]: Certain certain type of commercial I would imagine you can see. All right. Good deal. [2:05:00, 2:05:06]: Anything else? That's it? That's it for you. No, just want to make sure folks anybody for the development. [2:05:06, 2:05:08]: Ma'am, you can have your seat please if we don't. [2:05:08, 2:05:18]: Thank you. Anybody that's for? All right. Now we'll try this again. Anybody against the development from my that wanna make a comment, public hearing, my far left side. Anybody against it? [2:05:19, 2:05:21]: In the middle. Anybody against this development? [2:05:22, 2:05:22]: The middle. [2:05:23, 2:05:25]: Right side, anybody against the development? [2:05:26, 2:05:26]: All right. [2:05:27, 2:05:31]: We've done that. I will close this part of the uh public hearing. [2:05:31, 2:05:33]: Mr. Anderson, come back to the podium, please. [2:05:36, 2:05:50]: Council. I was I was I was gonna open up the council. What what kind of questions do you have? Mr. Alexander, you spoke, so I guess you go first now. See, I wanna I wanna speak to the residents concerned. It's terrible when you got a resident has to decide between [2:05:50, 2:06:10]: I'm gonna take drive time or I'm gonna take these trucks running through the middle of my neighborhood. That is a terrible dichotomy of the worst choices possible. I'm telling you, Miss Tiffany, come back to us with a better plan with some residential in it. I'm talking the whole the the the Tiffany, want to come to Tiffany. [2:06:10, 2:06:12]: Please come back to Mike. [2:06:12, 2:06:13]: B. [2:06:13, 2:06:33]: Commercial I'm talking about certainly I wouldn't I wouldn't vote for anything that would bring any more trucks in there. I certainly would not support anything that would involve any intense development. We're talking about this is reserve frontage, which is similar to what you would see up at the area where you would go through the perimeter or or the or you would go through [2:06:33, 2:06:40]: The Cumberland area that has expressway frontage. You have ex maximum exposure. [2:06:40, 2:06:58]: For not some cheap motel like they have on the other side, but a very nice hotel that would have like a steakhouse or something in it, or some commercial component or some retail stores in it. Certainly not any intense development. And I don't want you to have to make the choice between [2:06:58, 2:07:18]: If drive fearful because draw time will go in there or some commercial component. I can assure you that I would never vote for any type of truck or facility. Matter of fact, we turned one down about a year ago that wanted to locate over there a warehouse. We voted against it. And your choices aren't limited to drive time or [2:07:18, 2:07:20]: Some um [2:07:20, 2:07:40]: Or this development here. The developer can take some time, go back, bring us a better plan than this, because we will approve some residential, but this plan is just not it. So if you could take a certain amount of time, go back, come back to us within maybe thirty days or or less. [2:07:40, 2:08:00]: We'll bring you back up so we can talk about that through road. So we can talk about some commercial component that would be limited to where you would be agreeable. You would agree that it wouldn't be no trucks in that commercial development. You would agree that it would be restaurants. We could actually agree on what. [2:08:00, 2:08:20]: The commercial is going to be and put that in the zoning for approval and that it would exclude trucks and that type of thing. And I understand you've been going through this process. I won't we wanna be fair with you and approve some residential. This is too much. If you had some commercial to go with it to offset it. [2:08:20, 2:08:29]: And you had that through roll, I could see myself approving it if you would take a little more time to define this program of maybe about thirty days. [2:08:30, 2:08:35]: Alright, any other comments? Anyone else? Um [2:08:37, 2:08:48]: I'm having some some sidebar conversation here as y'all you really notice. Um and and and this is just one of those developments. I think this is unique. Um [2:08:49, 2:08:50]: And I'm um [2:08:51, 2:08:53]: I sort of lean toward [2:08:54, 2:09:00]: the right kind of commercial which we have no guarantee. So Mr. Anderson um [2:09:01, 2:09:04]: What control does the city have? [2:09:05, 2:09:08]: If we are, Mrs. Hogan, allowed to [2:09:08, 2:09:11]: get some interest from some commercial. [2:09:12, 2:09:12]: Um [2:09:13, 2:09:17]: Фот контроль до вича диктат. [2:09:17, 2:09:22]: The kind of commercial that can come in, you know, the retail, the restaurants. [2:09:23, 2:09:26]: You know, o of that nature. What what control do we have? [2:09:28, 2:09:31]: Usually by placing zoning conditions on a property? [2:09:31, 2:09:33]: Okay. [2:09:33, 2:09:36]: An and another thing is [2:09:39, 2:09:49]: With the threat of of dry time really coming and then misses Hogan, are you willing are you willing? If hard are you willing? [2:09:50, 2:09:51]: To [2:09:52, 2:09:55]: Put a little bit more time into this and see [2:09:56, 2:10:04]: I understand about the, you know, the whole s stub and and the and the and the drive-thru, but more of the the the right kind of commercial. [2:10:05, 2:10:06]: Are you willing to [2:10:07, 2:10:12]: to t'cause this will be a great development, I think, for for Horton and for the city of Stockbridge. [2:10:13, 2:10:33]: But uh uh are you willing to work a little harder to try to get some commitment, you know, from that because I I'm going to personally I'm going to lean toward uh the community that I I represent and we heard from the uh president of the association. [2:10:33, 2:10:53]: I've had the opportunity to meet with a number of them, even though it's just a few here tonight. So this is the way I'm going to lean toward. But ideally, I think all of us would be happy, and as the president mentioned, yeah, the restaurants, you know, the retail. Ideally, this is what we want to see in this area. [2:10:53, 2:11:06]: They can actually live with that. They can walk to the restaurants and the retail, but just dealing with that unknown, and that's the reason I asked uh Mr. Anderson, what control do we have? [2:11:06, 2:11:13]: to try to dictate or to mold that kind of retail and I'm pretty pretty comfortable in that, but [2:11:14, 2:11:16]: is hard and willing to [2:11:17, 2:11:18]: Stay in the game, said [2:11:19, 2:11:32]: and work with the city, work with the residents to try to fix it. I don't I I just don't want you to say, well, if it's not approved tonight, then we're gonna take all, you know, bats and balls and go home. [2:11:32, 2:11:34]: And so so [2:11:35, 2:11:40]: So sorta s share some of that with us if you if you could I know this is the public hearing phase of it, but [2:11:48, 2:11:56]: And and while they're talking, Mirror, I I s I still wanna sort of get a sense from uh from the president to [2:11:56, 2:12:16]: uh their willingness. Now I don't I'm not gonna uh roll the dice for them. Um I'm like I say I'm leaning toward cause I've met with them. They have indicated to me they have asked me to uh in a sense vote in that direction which I will but I don't have just one vote. [2:12:16, 2:12:20]: But I'm just trying to see how we can fix this. [2:12:20, 2:12:22]: And I don't want us to uh [2:12:23, 2:12:43]: take a chance on this other entity coming in and just you know and just knocking all of us out with the application. And like you said, they really don't even have they don't have to even come to us. We could just wake up the next day and and here we are. And so [2:12:43, 2:12:45]: I know we don't want that, so [2:12:45, 2:12:58]: Mr. Thomas I've already opened and closed at uh the public hearing and people th she was the only one that spoke and I mean pl I went through this uh two entire times. So I mean so i i I think it's clear there in this aspect. But uh [2:12:59, 2:13:02]: So yeah, so I appreciate that, Mayor. So let's just see [2:13:05, 2:13:07]: What we can do to [2:13:08, 2:13:28]: have everybody happy tonight knowing that we do have a a a great plan in place that's gonna satisfy the city, it's gonna satisfy the residents, and it's gonna give us a bright future for this area as far as the kind of um [2:13:28, 2:13:38]: commercial that's gonna come in and even the kind of uh residential. And I do appreciate uh Mrs. Gann, I do appreciate your comments [2:13:38, 2:13:39]: With the [2:13:40, 2:13:47]: interior of this of the development, I think that was great, great dialogue and and that's always a concern [2:13:48, 2:13:50]: You know, the quality of life. [2:13:50, 2:13:58]: How do you live within these subdivisions? And I think we had to take all of that in consideration as well, the quality of life. [2:14:00, 2:14:01]: Let's see what isn't it? [2:14:02, 2:14:04]: I thought it fifty. [2:14:11, 2:14:16]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Are the setbacks fifty feet? What are the setbacks? [2:14:18, 2:14:21]: For the town homes or the single family? [2:14:36, 2:14:38]: Ryan, do you know off the top of your head? [2:14:45, 2:14:47]: for the corner because it's a public. [2:14:48, 2:14:50]: We didn't. [2:14:53, 2:14:56]: Which one's that? [2:15:00, 2:15:20]: Because it's a put-up location. But as Ryan spoke to earlier, if there are some conditions that uh council wants to put on the property, then we can definitely entertain those. Um some of this feedback is first-time feedback tonight, unfortunately, because I don't have [2:15:20, 2:15:29]: have time to get our engineers online and check the feasibility of it, but obviously if it's approved with a condition of that sort, is that something that we would have to [2:15:32, 2:15:52]: Okay, so did you get your answer in reference to the setback? Well, I did. Sorry, I just realized the mic was off. That was townhomes, that was all of them twenty feet? Because it's a PUD application, it's based on the concept plan, so it's throughout. But I wanna say that in the past with our other applications, we required a additional amount of setback, like thirty five feet was it? Yeah, that was in if it's in the [2:15:54, 2:16:02]: If it's in the MFR district, it requires fifty feet frontage. Uh-huh. And we've been issuing variances to thirty feet. [2:16:03, 2:16:06]: Yeah, we've been reducing it to thirty feet. [2:16:10, 2:16:10]: Standard. [2:16:10, 2:16:11]: And this is twin. [2:16:13, 2:16:15]: Mm. Then this is twenty though. [2:16:15, 2:16:25]: Yes, she's basing it off her concept plan. When you do a a PUD doesn't have set PUD Plan Unit Development Zoning doesn't have setback requirements. It's based off a concept a concept plan. [2:16:25, 2:16:30]: Okay, but we can request those, right? Yes, you as a condition of zoning, yes. [2:16:30, 2:16:31]: Okay. [2:16:32, 2:16:44]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Uh Mrs. Hogan, I I I I I may have missed it. I was uh asked the question, is Hogan still willing to [2:16:46, 2:16:47]: Stay in the game. [2:16:47, 2:17:02]: Ah, I'm I do apologize, Councilman, I did hear you ask that. Uh that question is a bit out of my hands. We are under contract with the seller of this property and so the seller would have to determine if he wants to stay under contract to get allowed additional time. [2:17:06, 2:17:09]: All right. So So uh Mayor, um [2:17:11, 2:17:22]: I was wondering, are you willing to make since you are the district representative, are you willing to make a motion with uh any type of conditions uh for the council's consideration to approve or deny? [2:17:25, 2:17:26]: Yes, sir. [2:17:27, 2:17:35]: And request to reduce the number of mutants to a hundred and fifty single family and a hundred and twenty five. [2:17:36, 2:17:38]: Okay. [2:17:40, 2:17:42]: Yeah, repeat. [2:17:43, 2:17:55]: The applicant proposed the condition for approval of a hundred and twenty-five townhomes and a hundred and fifty single family units for a total of two hundred and seventy-five units down from two hundred and ninety-six units. [2:17:57, 2:17:57]: Okay. [2:18:00, 2:18:02]: Well go ahe what's the question, sir? Two one seventy five. [2:18:03, 2:18:07]: Two seventy five. One twenty five town homes and one fifty single. [2:18:08, 2:18:17]: But the bu the buffer is five feet on the sides. So are the houses gonna be reach out and touch I'm five feet and I'm the shortest little thing there is. [2:18:18, 2:18:19]: So I I need to know. [2:18:20, 2:18:23]: You know, that might a little bit of town home. [2:18:23, 2:18:25]: So I mean I'm not trying to be funny. [2:18:25, 2:18:31]: Councilwoman Gat, it's ten feet total between the homes because it's a five foot setback for each. Yeah, that's two of me. [2:18:33, 2:18:34]: That's two of me. [2:18:35, 2:18:36]: And I'm not too big. [2:18:38, 2:18:39]: That's my concern. [2:18:41, 2:19:01]: All right, so right now 125 and 150 is what you're willing to to to do. Yes, sir. All right. Yeah, yeah. Well st stand by a second, please, before I did you Mr. I am prepared to make a motion. I wanted to to see where the conversation was going and uh Mrs. Hogan did say they are willing to to stay in the game. [2:19:01, 2:19:09]: I and I think this is good with the reduction. Uh and that may help Mrs. Gantt. Did that [2:19:10, 2:19:12]: Councilwoman Gantt, did that sort of [2:19:12, 2:19:15]: Help your concern any for the [2:19:15, 2:19:17]: Well, yeah. [2:19:17, 2:19:28]: I don't know if it did any good. I um I mean it's five feet side buffers, two on each side, so that's ten feet. Mm-hmm. That's two of me from one house to the next. [2:19:29, 2:19:30]: Right. That's it. [2:19:31, 2:19:32]: Just so you know. [2:19:32, 2:19:52]: Right, right. Well, I I I will say that um that the Homeowners Association uh wants to approve. I do represent them. Uh it is unfortunate that we could not get the uh commercial component in, but I think again the [2:19:52, 2:20:12]: The fear of the beast coming in and really just taking this over anyway. I think that is really the biggest concern right now that if we do deny that we leave that door open. [2:20:12, 2:20:20]: open. I don't from what I'm getting from the Homeowners Association, uh, they don't want to roll the dice that way. [2:20:21, 2:20:25]: They don't want to take that chance. So with that being said, [2:20:25, 2:20:27]: Um I will motion [2:20:28, 2:20:48]: to approve the rezoning case RZ 2023-05 consideration to request a rezoning for the three parcels on Davidson Parkway and Walter Way from C three heavy commercial. [2:20:48, 2:20:55]: To PUD plan unit development to allow a mixed residential development. [2:20:57, 2:21:07]: I do do we need to put in any conditions such as the the the change in the number of home yes, with the conditions to reduce [2:21:07, 2:21:08]: Um [2:21:09, 2:21:22]: the townhomes to one twenty five and the single detached to one fifty. Uh did I miss any other conditions other than that? Was it any set and and the setback [2:21:23, 2:21:29]: Setback. Thirty feet is my recommendation. Is that on the town homes only, Councilwoman Gat? [2:21:30, 2:21:42]: I n I whatever we've done with the other communities, it's all i they've been thirty feet or thirty five? Thirty feet on townhomes. Huh? Thirty feet on townhomes. Thirty feet for townhomes and what about the single family? [2:21:42, 2:21:49]: Uh they usually are fifty feet front yard seven. And fifty feet residential. [2:21:51, 2:21:52]: You see more comment. [2:21:53, 2:21:59]: Okay. Okay. Oh Mrs. Hogan is that acceptable by the the by the builder? [2:22:02, 2:22:03]: That's that's our proof. [2:22:03, 2:22:04]: Mm. [2:22:11, 2:22:12]: Right quick. [2:22:16, 2:22:21]: Staff recommended the denial but we but uh if you approved it we have several conditions that need to be read into the record. [2:22:22, 2:22:26]: Right. That's what that's why we're trying to make sure we we do that. [2:22:26, 2:22:33]: So let's can you for the record can you indicate those conditions uh from staff? [2:22:35, 2:22:38]: One question. Oh a question too. [2:22:38, 2:22:42]: Stand by, stand by speaker. All right, we'll go get to your question in a second. [2:22:56, 2:22:57]: Mm-hmm. [2:22:58, 2:22:59]: [8583.1, 8587.1]: People are interested in that cultures and [2:23:08, 2:23:21]: If if if if drive for would they have to do a special use permit? For drive time? They they don't they don't because [2:23:22, 2:23:42]: Yeah, but see, but they they they want me to you know, my homeowner so shit, they want me to go ahead and get through. You think I need to ask for a recess? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Um if you keep it. [2:23:42, 2:23:45]: Let me see if I can get a recess. [2:23:45, 2:24:05]: Mayor Ford, I know I'm in the middle of my motion. Yes, sir. Um I I think we all need to get a better understanding of the conditions. I did read into the motion uh the rezoning case, but when it comes to the [2:24:05, 2:24:20]: uh conditions such as the reductions, the setbacks, and even the uh staff recommendation, um I like to ask counsel for a five-minute recess. [2:24:21, 2:24:33]: All right. Council, we want a five minute recess? So moved. Is there s uh all f okay uh all in favor indicate? Five minute recess? Okay it's approved. All right, we'll take a five minute recess. [2:24:35, 2:24:36]: Mm. [2:24:40, 2:24:43]: Council, I need you back on the dies, please. [2:25:10, 2:25:13]: Council, I need you back on the dias, please, so we can get going. [2:25:20, 2:25:40]: Yes sir. I got a communication from the city management with the meaning uh uh COVID uh communication. So we wanted to move this uh makes that something more do we need to watch it? Yeah, we're gonna have to use. [2:25:40, 2:25:42]: Yes. Okay. All right. [2:25:42, 2:25:58]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I need uh council back to the back to dial. So we made a motion to go in a five minute recess. It's a little more than five minutes. So I need a motion to reconvene our meeting, please. So move. Second. Okay, from Miss Barber to Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [2:25:58, 2:26:12]: All right, so we're back we're back on a session. Now yes sir. Uh a move to move this agenda item down the agenda. [2:26:12, 2:26:14]: There's still some [2:26:14, 2:26:27]: conversation but I move to move this agenda item down on the agenda. Well down agenda so the uh the last agenda item is number eleven so this will go down past the eleven. Once we get to eleven then we'll bring this back up. [2:26:28, 2:26:29]: Okay. [2:26:29, 2:26:32]: Second. Okay. Miss Holliday. [2:26:34, 2:26:37]: Well the motion is to move this agenda item down. [2:26:37, 2:26:57]: First let me go back since we're reconvening. I will remove my original motion, which was incomplete, but I removed that motion. Now I'm motioning to move this agenda item down to agenda item It'll be after eleven. Eleven. Okay. [2:26:57, 2:27:10]: There's a second emotion. Mr. Allison has a second. All favor, please indicate. Okay, on that note, then we'll continue on. We'll go back to uh uh item five and we'll reopen that uh uh public hearing on that as well. [2:27:10, 2:27:30]: Okay, now let's see here. Item number six, we uh we took that off the agenda. We we're gonna reconvene on that at a later date. So item number six that dealt with the lottery process determined the rewarding of two additional alcohol licenses and possibly to two additional licenses for certain other types of businesses in the city of Stockbridge. It uh it's been deferred to a later date. So we've [2:27:30, 2:27:50]: here for that particular one specifically. Unfortunately we won't be here tonight. We'll have to re-announce at another public uh public meeting. Okay, so we'll move on to item number seven. Council consideration to approve the renewal of landscape maintenance services contract with Yellowstone landscape in the amount of$350,000. Funding source is from the government building amphitheater budgeting. [2:27:50, 2:27:55]: funds presented by Mr. Aaron, please. Mr. Aaron. Mr. Aaron. [2:27:57, 2:28:03]: Right, item number seven, sir. Okay, I'm sorry. There we go. Got Al doing this tonight. All right, sir. [2:28:04, 2:28:14]: Yes, I'll answer for uh for the Yellowstone uh landscaping company. We're just asking for approval of uh contract renewal for Yellowstone. [2:28:14, 2:28:15]: Landscaping company. [2:28:18, 2:28:22]: Yes, any questions that anybody have for council have for yeah, go ahead, Ms. Barber. [2:28:24, 2:28:27]: Um so our current contract that's active. [2:28:28, 2:28:32]: The amount that we're paying is it three hundred thousand dollars that we're currently paying? [2:28:37, 2:28:43]: Um, I'm not sure if if this is an increase or not, but from my understanding that it this was already budgeted. [2:28:44, 2:28:51]: Ms. Aaron's coming, sir. Okay. Um, I just need to know what we're currently paying and if this is an increase. [2:28:54, 2:29:14]: What we're currently paying is around three hundred and twenty-four thousand. So we added some additional funding in case council wanted to do some things during the year, like add additional pine straw. They're not going up on the contract, but we just added some additional funding in case there are some items that are not covered in the scope of service. [2:29:14, 2:29:16]: [8957.0, 8958.1]: Then perform. [2:29:18, 2:29:21]: Okay, so this is a contract renewal. Yes. [2:29:23, 2:29:25]: So we should be approving the amount. [2:29:26, 2:29:27]: Of the contract. [2:29:27, 2:29:28]: Renewal. [2:29:29, 2:29:33]: Not the extra, I'm sure it it's already in your budget, you already said. [2:29:34, 2:29:36]: Three hundred and fifty you budget for this. [2:29:36, 2:29:40]: So we should be approving the contract amount. [2:29:40, 2:29:41]: Not what you [2:29:41, 2:29:44]: Estimate might be overage. [2:29:45, 2:29:49]: That's why I always ask for the supporting documents. [2:29:50, 2:29:51]: I need no [2:29:52, 2:29:54]: This three hundred and fifty thousand. [2:29:54, 2:29:57]: That is not the amount of the contract. [2:29:58, 2:30:13]: So the supporting documents are included and like I say the reason why we ask cause there's always a request to do some things in addition to and there's no money for that. [2:30:13, 2:30:33]: So we're getting questioned about, well, why they don't do that. Well, there's not funding available to do those things you want to do because there's been some talking concern like mulch. You only get one application a year. We try to do that right before the concert season. But before the end of the year, the mulch needs to be replaced or replenished. [2:30:33, 2:30:41]: But if we just go with the budgeted amount, there's no money to refresh or replenish those kind of things. [2:30:42, 2:30:46]: A contract is set. There are set terms. [2:30:46, 2:30:49]: There are set scope of work. [2:30:49, 2:30:52]: That is the amount that we should be approving. [2:30:53, 2:30:55]: Well not what you budgeted. [2:30:55, 2:31:15]: I don't that is what's confusing. I don't have an issue with that, but like I say, I know we're constantly asked why we don't do this, why we don't do that. So we're trying to ensure that if there's some things that you want to see done, that there's money available to do that. And that's the only if you want to do it. [2:31:15, 2:31:27]: for the budget amount, we're fine with that as well. But then just know that if something comes up during the year that you want it done, it will not be done because you would not have money available to. [2:31:27, 2:31:29]: So in that instance [2:31:29, 2:31:31]: You would bring back to the council. [2:31:32, 2:31:33]: An amendment. [2:31:34, 2:31:36]: to the budget or to the contract. [2:31:37, 2:31:38]: And we would approve. [2:31:38, 2:31:42]: Whatever the added services are that we're requesting. [2:31:42, 2:31:46]: But this says for us to approve the renewal. [2:31:46, 2:31:47]: Of the contract. [2:31:48, 2:31:50]: So I need to know what the actual [2:31:50, 2:31:53]: contract amount is [2:31:53, 2:31:53]: Well. [2:31:56, 2:31:57]: That's just me. [2:31:58, 2:32:18]: Any other any other comments from the council? Yes, go ahead, sir. Let me just say this. Certainly those those emeritus points that need to be ironed out. So sounds like to me what you just really need to do is say, okay, we'll replace the mulch twice or three times. I thought we were on a quarterly basis. I thought at some point we had agreed that we were gonna do the [2:32:18, 2:32:38]: pine straw quarterly because that's what it called for in the past and uh because certainly once a year certainly is not enough in order to make that happen. So how what's the frequency that you will be able to do it by going up to the 350? I think that'll kinda uh tell tell us what the extra money is going to be for. [2:32:38, 2:32:43]: Yeah, we're gonna increase the frequency of the mulch replacement or the services. [2:32:43, 2:32:52]: Well some well, some of that we came predetermined because as you know that we finished some of the area as far as the amphitheater, the back parking lot area. [2:32:53, 2:33:13]: So there's a lot of stuff that's been added to that that we have to compensate for and we can keep it all uniform together. That whole North Lee street and everything like that. So um across from PD, South Lee, all of that was redone. That had it get moach and had it look uniform as well as with the amphitheater. [2:33:13, 2:33:25]: City Hall, and PD. So there's a lot of that stuff where we can account for, but we have data provements on East Atlanta. A lot of that was added on as well. [2:33:25, 2:33:45]: So so basically what you're saying is there are additional service'cause right now North Leastry ain't is not being the grass is not being cut to my I is before the concert this weekend is very long. Yeah. So maybe it was it's been a couple several weeks. So certainly that'll be in that we will be it we that will be added to this. Well [2:33:45, 2:34:05]: No, I wasn't addressing uh grass cutting as far as North Lee, but there is mulch. There is mulch. Right, but I'm saying that this is the Yellowstone contract here is for the grass cutting and everything, right? Right, for the landscape. Right. So in essence, you're adding the service. I'm hoping that's what you're telling me that you're gonna add service on North Lee Street, so it's maintained. Correct. [2:34:05, 2:34:25]: Like the rest of this is. That's what you're doing. Yes. Right. So that's what I'm saying. Her question was valid. You are adding additional services to what we're doing, which is something that we need to do because the grass is not being maintained on North Lee Street. So this would allow us to do that. It will also allow us to be able to uh replenish the [2:34:25, 2:34:39]: mulch uh at a more frequent basis uh as well. And this is kind of like doing a up to. You not you may not use the 350,000, but you will have authority to use the 350,000. So we do that regul we do that sometimes. [2:34:40, 2:34:48]: Regularly, what we say, you you basically you're asking for authority to spend up to three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You may not do that. [2:34:49, 2:35:01]: Yes, like one of the things that came up is about the sound and noise. So there was a request made to plant some additional trees. There is no money budgeted. [2:35:01, 2:35:02]: To to do that. [2:35:03, 2:35:11]: Because we're actually at the contract limit. So in order to do things like that for the noise mitigation, to plan additional planning. [2:35:12, 2:35:32]: There's gotta be money from somewhere and you talk about a budget amendment, you still gonna have to amend the the budget where you take the m where do you take the money from? If the budget is X amount and then we need the additional money and it's not in the budget, where does that money come to do those additional things? So which basically you explained that you're gonna plant more trees, you're gonna [2:35:31, 2:35:51]: to do more mulch, you're going to increase the scope of services. Basically you asked her the question which is her originally you said you were not, but you are, you in any case it uh it seemed like you indicated and I won't speak for you that there were not going to be an additional services, but there are. So I do understand you need the additional money to do work on the sound [2:35:51, 2:35:56]: mitigation and that other stuff with the tree. So I understand where you're going. Yeah. [2:35:57, 2:35:59]: Any other questions for the council? [2:35:59, 2:36:00]: I do. [2:36:00, 2:36:01]: Go ahead, please. [2:36:01, 2:36:08]: The item as it is on the agenda says council consideration to approve contract renewal invitation. [2:36:09, 2:36:11]: Contract renewal. [2:36:12, 2:36:17]: There are specific terms, scope of work that this contract covers. [2:36:18, 2:36:23]: Anything outside of that will need to be brought back to the council if it exceeds [2:36:24, 2:36:25]: Fifty thousand dollars. [2:36:25, 2:36:30]: So planting some trees, that won't have to come back to the council. [2:36:30, 2:36:32]: You have the city manager who has the authority. [2:36:33, 2:36:34]: to spend up to fifty thousand. [2:36:35, 2:36:36]: What I don't want to do. [2:36:37, 2:36:38]: Is approved [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: Three hundred and fifty thousand. [2:36:41, 2:36:43]: Based on what your br budget is. [2:36:43, 2:36:44]: I wanna know. [2:36:45, 2:36:46]: Exactly. [2:36:46, 2:36:47]: What is the amount? [2:36:47, 2:36:49]: Of the contract. [2:36:50, 2:36:53]: Our current contract is at three hundred and twenty seven thousand. [2:36:54, 2:36:59]: I am willing to approve the renewal of three hundred and twenty seven thousand. [2:37:00, 2:37:04]: In your budget, you may have three hundred and fifty thousand budgeted. [2:37:04, 2:37:05]: Four [2:37:05, 2:37:06]: landscaping. [2:37:07, 2:37:12]: But I don't wanna approve three hundred and fifty thousand'cause that's what you're asking me for. It's already in the budget. [2:37:13, 2:37:14]: It's the contract. [2:37:15, 2:37:17]: Та ви а тобі консирань. [2:37:18, 2:37:19]: The contract amount. [2:37:19, 2:37:21]: That's what I wanna know. That's all. [2:37:23, 2:37:34]: So we're asking for a twenty-three thousand dollar increase to that contract amount to cover the additional things you had done when the road was widened. [2:37:35, 2:37:48]: and reconfigured. We added additional areas that like Mr. Barnes said, that are moats, that's gotta be taken care of. They gotta be replenished and refreshed as well. And and those areas gotta be maintained. So [2:37:49, 2:37:58]: Well then I would think that the scope of work for the contract will have to be revised to include all of those areas. [2:37:58, 2:38:02]: What you're asking us to do is to renew the existing contract. [2:38:03, 2:38:05]: If you're changing it and you're adding something else. [2:38:06, 2:38:08]: It's not the new it's not the same contract. [2:38:09, 2:38:10]: It's different. [2:38:11, 2:38:13]: That's all. I see now um probably [2:38:14, 2:38:16]: going to be opposing this. [2:38:17, 2:38:19]: Only because I don't have support and documents. [2:38:19, 2:38:35]: to support this 350,000 that you're requesting. That's all. Thank you. But also what was done though, prior to those areas on East Atlanta being redone and Lee Street, those areas did not have mulch. They just had grass. [2:38:35, 2:38:54]: If you recall on East Atlanta Road over there, that was grass. Over there where they reconfigured the road by the school, that was just grass. It's got mulch in it. On East Oh I'm gonna say Lee Street, South and North Lee Street. Now you got mulch instead of just grass. There's a difference between cutting grass and putting mulch down. There's an an additional cost. [2:38:54, 2:38:56]: And I understand that, Mr. Erin. I guess what I [2:38:57, 2:39:01]: What I was expecting was that you would either bring a quote [2:39:01, 2:39:05]: For whatever the extra services are. [2:39:05, 2:39:10]: That's beyond what we're already what we're currently contracted for. [2:39:10, 2:39:13]: If I knew how much the extra services were. [2:39:14, 2:39:19]: then I could support approving this, but I don't know how much the extra services are. [2:39:19, 2:39:21]: All I know is on the agenda. [2:39:22, 2:39:24]: It says for this particular item. [2:39:24, 2:39:30]: Council consideration to approve the renewal of the lands landscape maintenance services contract. [2:39:31, 2:39:32]: To renew. Yeah. [2:39:32, 2:39:34]: The existing contract. [2:39:36, 2:39:45]: What are there questions coming? I'm not confused. I'm real clear. Okay, thank you. Then can we just get approval for the regular the original contracted amount? [2:39:47, 2:39:49]: And what is that original contract amount? [2:39:50, 2:39:51]: Because that's not in here. [2:39:52, 2:39:56]: That's what I asked. The original contract amount. [2:39:56, 2:40:00]: Із три хандатосев тазен тухаренсік стін дала. [2:40:02, 2:40:05]: And where's what the contract amount is for. [2:40:05, 2:40:07]: It's on page one. [2:40:07, 2:40:09]: Yeah, for the member. [2:40:09, 2:40:18]: On the back the agenda item form that you completed? Yes. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Where is that in the supporting the actual contract? [2:40:18, 2:40:21]: The second paragraph specifies what the contract amount. [2:40:22, 2:40:24]: Of a contract. [2:40:25, 2:40:28]: It said three hundred and twenty seven thousand two hundred and sixteen no. [2:40:31, 2:40:37]: Is it this page that's hard to read? This one? No, it's this page. [2:40:38, 2:40:41]: It's your agenda item form. [2:40:42, 2:40:45]: That's the form that's completed by staff? Yes. [2:40:45, 2:40:46]: I want to see [2:40:47, 2:40:50]: the information in the contract. [2:40:50, 2:40:52]: Because I know stab can kinda [2:40:52, 2:40:55]: Transpose mistakenly numbers. [2:40:56, 2:40:57]: We're talking about [2:40:58, 2:40:58]: Three hundred. [2:40:59, 2:41:01]: And twenty seven thousand dollars. [2:41:01, 2:41:19]: The the resolution, there was several resolutions cause when it was originally adopted, there wasn't sufficient funding. So we brought it back to you. This says the initial contract was approved by council on September twenty, twenty twenty-one for an estimated annual amount of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [2:41:19, 2:41:39]: On December 14, 2021, Resolution R twenty one, thirteen eighty-two, the city council approved an increase in the amount of fifty thousand dollars, bringing the annual total amount to three hundred thousand. On May thirtieth, twenty twenty-three, resolution R twenty three fifteen seven, and council approved the landscape maintenance project with [2:41:39, 2:41:48]: Yellowstone for general maintenance and grass cutting in the amount of three hundred and twenty-seven thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars from the FY twenty twenty-four budget. [2:41:49, 2:41:54]: So that's what the contract amount is, three hundred and twenty seven thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars. [2:41:55, 2:41:55]: Thank you, sir. [2:41:57, 2:42:17]: Any other comments from the council? Listen, I'm about common sense. Is this what you need is this what we need to maintain the marriage? Well, if that's what you're gonna approve, then we'll go with the budget amount of the biggest. [2:42:17, 2:42:37]: Ms. Barber's concern, but she's only one council member. The deal is the rest of us up here have to work together to be able to understand. If you now, if you're telling me you don't need the money, then that's different. But if you're telling me you need the money to plant trees, to minimize this the sound the sound, you need money to take care of the extra areas that need money. [2:42:37, 2:42:55]: You need money to do the areas that we spent three million dollars to improve so they would look beautiful. I want them to look beautiful. I want them to look maintained just like they are today without you coming back to me saying they look like North Lee Street because the grass ain't been cut because it hasn't been approved. [2:42:56, 2:43:16]: So like I said, the reason why we ask for the three hundred and fifty, because there are always things that come up with. It makes sense. Somebody comes in City Hall and says, why is this looking a certain way? It's not looking like that, because there is not money to to do those. Yellowstone is only gonna do what's in the contract and what in there. [2:43:16, 2:43:20]: Scope of service. If it says one application or two applications. [2:43:20, 2:43:21]: That's all we're gonna get. [2:43:21, 2:43:41]: But if we got some additional money, there's some things you wanna see done, council wanna see done, then we have money available to do that. If not, then we coming back before council and funds wasn't weren't budgeted, so where are we gonna get that money from? You know, if you're gonna amend the budget or adjust the budget, that money's gotta come somewhere. So we just try [2:43:41, 2:43:58]: Trying to be proactive instead of being a media. Better yet, how about this? This is I I've asked several times for council comments, only two of you have spoke. That's why make a motion. Go ahead and make a motion. [2:43:58, 2:44:10]: I certainly I make a motion to go with the staff recommendation to be very proactive to be ready for these engagements to keep the area exemplary outside City Hall. Is it sa is there a second? [2:44:11, 2:44:12]: Is there a second? [2:44:14, 2:44:15]: Okay. [2:44:15, 2:44:16]: It's not a second. [2:44:17, 2:44:19]: All right. [2:44:20, 2:44:22]: Now no any other comments from the council? [2:44:22, 2:44:23]: Mayor Ford. [2:44:24, 2:44:25]: Yes, ma'am. [2:44:26, 2:44:27]: I will make a motion. [2:44:28, 2:44:28]: Mm-hmm. [2:44:28, 2:44:31]: That we renew the current contract. [2:44:31, 2:44:33]: And the amount of [2:44:33, 2:44:35]: A motion to approve. [2:44:35, 2:44:45]: To renew the current contract an amount of three hundred and twenty seven thousand. What was it? Two hundred and sixteen dollars. Three twenty seven two sixteen. [2:44:47, 2:44:49]: Three twenty seven two [2:44:50, 2:44:51]: Three twenty seven. [2:44:51, 2:44:53]: Two hundred and sixteen dollars. [2:44:55, 2:45:01]: Okay. And if there are additional expenses that are needed [2:45:02, 2:45:04]: And they exceed fifty thousand. [2:45:04, 2:45:06]: Please do bring it back to the council. [2:45:07, 2:45:13]: We know that anything less than fifty thousand, the city manager can sign off on it without bringing it to us. [2:45:14, 2:45:16]: That's my motion. Is there a second to that motion? [2:45:17, 2:45:20]: Is there a second to the motion? [2:45:20, 2:45:23]: Mr. Berry, second that motion. Any further discussion? [2:45:24, 2:45:30]: I have a discussion with the Go ahead, please. On the second page it says on September eleventh, twenty twenty three, council approved the payment amount of [2:45:31, 2:45:38]: Seventy thousand one hundred and fifty eight dollars and ninety-six cents to Yellowstone landscaping for the Campground Road and Hudson Bridge median enhancement work. [2:45:39, 2:45:40]: Is that in addition to [2:45:41, 2:45:57]: Our budget or is that that was that was a part of the budget? That was something that was outside the contract. That was a beautification project for Campground and Hudson Bridge Road. That's that wasn't included in the budget amount. This was something in addition to [2:45:57, 2:45:59]: So why is it in our notes here? [2:46:00, 2:46:08]: Did you submit that to the procurement prepares this form and we just we present it. [2:46:08, 2:46:16]: Okay. I don't know why they put that in there for because that's not included in the contract. It's not. This was a one time [2:46:16, 2:46:18]: Where's procurement? Are they here? [2:46:19, 2:46:19]: Oh. [2:46:20, 2:46:27]: But I also is one of the reasons why we were trying to be proactive for the calls and stuff that we get as far as that. [2:46:27, 2:46:33]: Okay. That and I get that. And I understand that. And that was for for needed at that time. [2:46:34, 2:46:54]: My question is, so the additional funds that you wanted was to just in case for other upkeeps and things that we would need in the future. There wasn't something in addition where the company said, well, that's gonna cost you more money right now. No, no. That's just like [2:46:54, 2:47:01]: that whole Hudson Bridge and Campground where maybe you all or someone complains and they want beautification that [2:47:02, 2:47:09]: We wouldn't have to go in front of you all for those extra funds. We can just go ahead and get it tackled and then just keep moving on. [2:47:10, 2:47:13]: I get it. Well I think we should wait until the budget to [2:47:14, 2:47:21]: put those that cushion, you know, put that in there if that's what we need, if we're gonna look at that. I appreciate you guys being proactive with it. [2:47:21, 2:47:25]: I mean the contract renews in September. I totally understand that. [2:47:25, 2:47:28]: And then our budget cycle doesn't start until January, right? [2:47:29, 2:47:35]: But we look at some of the things that we need based off of that, I would think. Um [2:47:39, 2:47:42]: I'm okay with re keeping the contract as is for now. [2:47:45, 2:47:47]: uh as far as m amount is concerned. [2:47:48, 2:47:51]: Okay, motion has been made and been seconded. Did Miss Barby have something else? [2:47:51, 2:48:09]: I do, I have a question. So m um Mr. Aaron, I know you pointed out the second page of this agenda item form. Um the amount what was it? Three hundred and twenty-seven thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars. Yes. But looking at the actual agreement. [2:48:09, 2:48:16]: The amount that it has on here is for two hundred and forty-four thousand nine hundred and ninety-two dollars. [2:48:16, 2:48:20]: Annually? No, that was written that was That's what it says. [2:48:20, 2:48:21]: And then it goes on. [2:48:22, 2:48:37]: It explains the equal monthly installments billed in the amount of twenty thousand dollars. So I'm I need to understand, I know that this was signed back in twenty twenty-one and we've had some renewals since then and the cost has increased. [2:48:37, 2:48:57]: No ma'am. Explain to me how we go from 244,000 to 327,000. Because when this contract was initially signed, the amphitheater was not online. Okay. And so it wasn't accounted for in the in the original scope of services for the landscaping. So it includes [2:48:57, 2:49:17]: Increased the ad the landscaping for the amphitheater. That's why it went from the$244,000 up to$300 because you didn't have the amphitheater at that time. Thank you for that. One more question. So I'm looking at the 2024 budget book. Can you tell me? [2:49:17, 2:49:31]: me I just want to know what was budgeted for landscaping. Can you tell me where I would find this? I don't I don't have the budget in front of me right now. I but I just want to see information. Can the um interim treasurer [2:49:32, 2:49:36]: Tell me where I can find what was budgeted for landscaping for this year. [2:49:37, 2:49:38]: Do you have a copy of the budget? [2:49:39, 2:49:45]: I have copy of the budget here, but I'm not able to find where landscaping is. [2:49:53, 2:49:55]: Yeah. Keep keep on it. [2:49:56, 2:49:57]: Because it goes all over here. [2:50:02, 2:50:05]: Cold sign and then six. Mm-hmm. [2:50:45, 2:50:49]: Why they're looking at that, but can I get some clarification real quick? Sure, go ahead. So [2:50:50, 2:50:59]: 'Cause I'm I'm torn in between. I like the fact I don't want staff to think that I don't appreciate you thinking ahead with that cushion amount. I love that idea. [2:50:59, 2:51:03]: I don't like being behind the curve on it. But I also [2:51:04, 2:51:05]: In thinking [2:51:06, 2:51:18]: If we have a contract agreement, which we did have and we we did increase the amount based off of what I'm reading here on page one and the history. I trust staff, by the way. [2:51:18, 2:51:20]: on what was written. [2:51:20, 2:51:25]: And my uh the amount is three hundred and twenty seven thousand two sixteen. [2:51:25, 2:51:27]: Currently for maintenance, right? [2:51:29, 2:51:32]: And so you're talking about a little less than [2:51:33, 2:51:42]: So you're talking about twenty-three thousand dollars more in addition to what we already have. So by the time we do the services here. [2:51:43, 2:52:03]: It would be okay to come back to us and ask for additional I understand you try to prevent that, but if it was something that was needed. Well, yeah, just in a timely matter, you know, we'll we'll get the calls like, hey, you know, can we get these flowers changed? Or, you know, saying, Can we get them to do this? You know what I'm saying? So [2:52:03, 2:52:17]: You know, we're being asked to act fast on, you know, saying the services and the results, you know, saying. So that's the reason for us to wanna, you know, make that increase. That we don't have to come back for, you know, to you all and say, hey [2:52:18, 2:52:25]: Which you were asking for last week, we need, you know, X amount of dollars to get that accomplished. But we're not over budget right now. [2:52:25, 2:52:37]: Right. Excuse me. We're not over budget right now. We're we're halfway through. I'm just asking'cause the winter months have come. I'm just trying to figure it out. Right, right. Okay. No, we're not we're not over budget. [2:52:37, 2:52:38]: All right. So [2:52:40, 2:52:45]: All right, Miss Barber, did you get your answer? I did. Um actually for landscaping. [2:52:45, 2:52:47]: According to [2:52:47, 2:52:49]: The twenty twenty four budget. [2:52:49, 2:52:52]: It's budgeted for three hundred and thirty thousand. [2:52:53, 2:52:54]: Put this here. [2:52:54, 2:52:59]: What you're asking us to approve is three hundred and fifty thousand, so it exceeds what you budgeted. [2:53:00, 2:53:20]: So this is actually for next year for twenty twenty-five because it was requested that contract be presented a hundred and twenty days before expiration for renewal. The current contract expires in September of this year. It would include three months of this year plus [2:53:20, 2:53:20]: Mm-hmm. [2:53:21, 2:53:32]: that you got enough money in this year's budget to cover us what we're doing. But for the 12 months, this you're proving really for like 15 months. [2:53:32, 2:53:35]: The you know, the three months [2:53:35, 2:53:45]: to the end of the year, then twelve months for next year. So we ti we're just actually asking for FY twenty five for it to be three fifty. That's what we was gonna budget. [2:53:46, 2:53:55]: One last question. So that seventy thousand um that was spent for the campground road maintenance or landscaping. [2:53:56, 2:53:58]: Is that a part of No. [2:53:59, 2:54:03]: What you it's not a part of that. [2:54:04, 2:54:06]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [2:54:08, 2:54:09]: Okay, so if another [2:54:10, 2:54:20]: I just want to make uh we we had discussion. Yeah, you had discussion. You have another point, sir? I just want to say listen. [2:54:20, 2:54:40]: We don't wasted another 30 minutes. Listen, I I appreciate you guys. I do. I tr I really do. I this is what I ask of you is to be proactive. Just like yesterday when we had that trash situation over off of uh right across from campground, y'all were able to jump right on that because you had the funding already in your budget. Otherwise, you would have [2:54:40, 2:55:00]: Had to come to us to get somebody to authorize the cleanup and we'd have that trashed area still be over there right now. I understand. We gotta have trust in our staff when they come to us with recommendations that make sense. They're trying to do something and be very proactive for the area. [2:55:00, 2:55:20]: They're trying to improve our operation. But are we going to micromanage them and tell, listen, don't do that. Don't bring us any good ideas. You just do what we've already done. It sounds like a great idea to me. You're going to approve a 15-month budget going through, you're just starting three months early. You're starting three months early, you're adding three. [2:55:20, 2:55:28]: Three months to a year's renewal so that next we'll be prepared for next year right now instead of in two in three months. [2:55:28, 2:55:45]: It makes sense. Now in other we we we could go and keep going on in this same argument, but I want to encourage our staff to keep coming to us with good recommendations that make sense. And I will vote for them every single time. And I understand [2:55:46, 2:56:06]: I don't understand our hesitancy to embrace good change and good ideas. That's what I want to do. Sometimes I uh um it mystifies me that we don't embrace the changes that are being brought to us by professional staff. They are the experts on the work that they do. Who are we to tell them, listen, you don't need that? [2:56:06, 2:56:12]: You you they just tell they just sit there and told us for thirty minutes they do need it and we talked them out of it. [2:56:14, 2:56:25]: All right. If there are no other comments, the motion was on the floor to uh keep with the s uh budget numbers, original budget numbers that are outlined here three thout three hundred twenty seven thousand two hundred sixteen dollars. [2:56:26, 2:56:31]: All right. So matter of fact, uh how'bout this? Miss Holiday? [2:56:32, 2:56:33]: Meshaudi. [2:56:34, 2:56:35]: Read the motion back, please. [2:56:42, 2:56:43]: I'm hearing. [2:56:50, 2:56:55]: twenty seven thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars and if needed [2:56:55, 2:57:00]: Or any purchases over fifty thousand dollars which is over to six million. [2:57:04, 2:57:05]: Is that it to a motion, Ms. Barber? [2:57:07, 2:57:15]: Is that your motion? Okay. And that was seconded by Mr. Uh Berry. Okay. All um all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:57:17, 2:57:31]: Okay, you abstain? All in favor of motion, please. I'm abstaining too because uh uh to show support for the staff. Okay. Because they came up with a good idea. Okay. Okay, I'll all okay. Once again, all favor. Okay, I got two favor of the contract. [2:57:31, 2:57:33]: Screw me. Staying as is right now. [2:57:35, 2:57:36]: I'm I'm in favor. [2:57:37, 2:57:48]: You're of of keeping it okay. Keeping it. So so you're in favor of this motion. That's right, ma'am. Ms. Ganttz in favor. Mr. Mr. Barr is in favor. And Miss Barber's in favor. Okay, all polls. [2:57:49, 2:57:52]: And it's uh we got two abstentions. So pass three zero two. [2:57:53, 2:57:53]: Okay. [2:57:54, 2:57:55]: All right. [2:57:55, 2:58:06]: You got it now? I just got one further question. So now that we don't have North Lee Street covered, what what's gonna happen with North Lee Street since it's do we have enough money to cover that? [2:58:07, 2:58:10]: Because it's not currently the you're not do you have enough money to maintain it? [2:58:11, 2:58:12]: We'll we'll take care of it. [2:58:12, 2:58:32]: You got but I'm saying you you gonna have to come back and ask for money for that or answer. I mean it it's it's it's a possible. So like you said, any requests that maybe have from, you know, council or you know, any ideas will we'll be right back up here. So technically what's gonna happen is we're gonna do it. The money's gonna be spent for it. It just yellowstones. [2:58:32, 2:58:41]: Won't spend the money, but we'll just try to find some resources within the budget to ensure that it gets maintained. So the [2:58:44, 2:58:45]: All right gentlemen, appreciate it. [2:58:46, 2:58:48]: Motion passes. [2:58:48, 2:58:49]: Thank you, Mayor Council. Thank you. [2:58:50, 2:59:10]: Thank you. Council consideration approved the contract renewal invitation to bid ITB for number 16RFP 101216-DRR, American Tank Maintenance LLC, food uh full service tank maintenance program and amount of sixty-one thousand four hundred nineteen dollars. Funding [2:59:10, 2:59:30]: source would be the water department uh budgeted funds. Uh Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. On October 1st, 2021, the city of Stockbridge entered into a water tank maintenance contract with the American Tank Services. It was the initial term was one year with nine one-year renewals. So we're coming up [2:59:30, 2:59:37]: Upon renewal number three. So we're asking the city to approve us to renew the contract with American Tank Service. [2:59:38, 2:59:39]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [2:59:40, 2:59:48]: I move that we approve the American tank maintenance full service program in the amount of sixty one thousand four nineteen. Okay, is there a second to the motion? [2:59:50, 2:59:53]: Is there a second emotion? Oh mister Mr. Barrett second that? [2:59:54, 2:59:55]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [2:59:57, 3:00:01]: Okay, all polls? Opposed. Um exhibit B. [3:00:02, 3:00:04]: According to the [3:00:05, 3:00:14]: The motion the motion passes three three three one. If I may add my comment, mayor. I'm just want to make note the motion does pass. You can go on with your comment. [3:00:15, 3:00:19]: According to exhibit B of the contract. [3:00:19, 3:00:20]: It's missing. [3:00:21, 3:00:22]: And it's the compensation piece. [3:00:23, 3:00:28]: It says contractors shall r shall receive compensation from the city as set forth. [3:00:28, 3:00:31]: In the attached exhibits B. [3:00:32, 3:00:33]: That's not included. [3:00:36, 3:00:37]: Opposed. [3:00:45, 3:00:55]: Well, uh once again, as I said, Public Works is presenting what procurements gave to us to present. So we all we can only present the documents that were given to us. [3:00:56, 3:00:58]: See that so proper. [3:00:59, 3:01:01]: All right. We'll move on. [3:01:02, 3:01:12]: Thank you, Mayor. Council of Consideration, thank you. Council of Consideration filled the vacancy of the youth council advisory committee appointment of a member to serve an unexpired term. Mr Washington, please. [3:01:37, 3:01:40]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. We have three different [3:01:41, 3:02:01]: App we have three different board we have three different boards that have applicants on them. And each one of the members that have each one of the people who have submitted do if you all vote for them to be on would be able to fill it at the seat that's on there. Well you got one person for Henry Count we have one person for the youth advisory council. [3:02:01, 3:02:03]: Miss uh Tariqah Powell. [3:02:03, 3:02:05]: And her applications before you [3:02:06, 3:02:07]: You have [3:02:07, 3:02:13]: Just take one at a time, sir. Each each each each different board at a time. We have several line items sir. [3:02:14, 3:02:20]: All right, so you have Miss Tariqa Powell who submitted her application to be a member of the youth advisory council. [3:02:20, 3:02:22]: And that's for your consideration now. [3:02:23, 3:02:29]: Okay. Council, any questions in reference to this uh individual coming forward? He appointed the youth council? [3:02:32, 3:02:36]: If no questions then uh I need a motion to accept this uh this appointment. [3:02:37, 3:02:38]: Some oh [3:02:38, 3:02:45]: Ms. So moved. Okay, is there a second? Second. M Mr Berry's second that from Ms. Scanton. Ms. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. [3:02:46, 3:02:48]: Okay, so now it's decision. [3:02:48, 3:02:57]: Okay, appreciate that. All right, Council of Consideration to fill vacancies and appoint uh appoint members to the citywide development authority. Once again presented by Mr. Washington. [3:02:58, 3:03:03]: I you have two. You have Mr. Antonio Gordon and then you have [3:03:05, 3:03:06]: Yeah. [3:03:06, 3:03:07]: Yeah, three. [3:03:09, 3:03:12]: I think they're two apples with three. Three. [3:03:15, 3:03:17]: So am I well, I mean [3:03:20, 3:03:23]: Right,'cause in my book I have three vacancies. There are two vacancies. [3:03:24, 3:03:27]: Three years only six people you're going up at nine. [3:03:28, 3:03:33]: That's correct. Remember you all approved. We approved it nine. Right. We approved it in nine. [3:03:34, 3:03:35]: Yeah, okay, I want to hear. [3:03:35, 3:03:39]: All right, so I've got first I have is Antonio Gordon. [3:03:40, 3:03:40]: Yeah. [3:03:41, 3:03:45]: I have a second application that at least it's in my book from Antonio Gordon. [3:03:47, 3:03:47]: Mm-hmm. [3:03:48, 3:03:51]: Then I have Miss Kim Mays. [3:03:55, 3:03:57]: Then I have Miss Monica Jones. [3:04:01, 3:04:05]: Then I have Miss Ivy D. Sears. [3:04:08, 3:04:08]: Okay. [3:04:10, 3:04:13]: And you have you have these applications but only three vacancies. [3:04:14, 3:04:14]: Okay. [3:04:16, 3:04:23]: So so it's three individuals that need to be selected and this is for a duration of the amount of time. [3:04:25, 3:04:27]: What's the amount of time for the duration once approved? [3:04:28, 3:04:32]: Oh the for the C DA membership? Right, right. It's t it's it's two years or three years. [3:04:43, 3:04:43]: Okay. [3:04:54, 3:04:56]: Oh yeah. Up to four years. [3:04:59, 3:05:02]: I think it's two each. So member. [3:05:04, 3:05:13]: I'm not sure. Ms. Holliday, what if a new appointment for the city wide is it is it initial new appointment, is that two years to extent? Initially two years? [3:05:22, 3:05:35]: I th uh Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I thought that we agreed that all new members would have like I know we have staggering terms for everyone, but I thought we were putting everyone on these two year terms. [3:05:36, 3:05:36]: No. [3:05:38, 3:05:39]: We can, correct? [3:05:40, 3:05:41]: We can do that. [3:05:42, 3:05:45]: We can do that. We can put'em on two year terms. [3:05:46, 3:05:48]: Yeah. That's what we need to do. [3:05:52, 3:05:55]: are still in there. [3:05:56, 3:06:00]: So they're able to stack we're able to put these on two years and it still be staggered somewhat. [3:06:01, 3:06:13]: So if I'm to understand we increase it by three so those three individuals can have two year terms and there's somebody that's a fourth person that needs to fill an unexpired term, is that correct? [3:06:13, 3:06:13]: Third person. [3:06:14, 3:06:17]: I see. Okay. Did you understand that? [3:06:17, 3:06:33]: Two two new seats and one filled No no no no no no three new seats. Three new seats, there'll be two year terms for three new seats, and there'll be a fourth person that's gonna fill unaspired term of an individual that's left. It's my understanding. We agreed the three new seats. That's not it? [3:06:33, 3:06:34]: So then what is it? [3:06:37, 3:06:42]: Right. [3:06:43, 3:06:43]: Okay. [3:06:44, 3:06:47]: All right. [3:06:49, 3:06:50]: [11210.8, 11219.5]: So we okay fine. That's what we need to know. All right. So on that s note, then we have to as we approve this, we've got to figure out who gets to one unaspired term and who get the two new seats then. [3:07:00, 3:07:01]: It's not it's gotta be decided. [3:07:02, 3:07:03]: And bowed it on. [3:07:04, 3:07:05]: I'll make a motion. Go right in, please. [3:07:06, 3:07:17]: I would like to move that Monica Jones replaces the um current uh member that left, resigned. [3:07:20, 3:07:21]: And [3:07:22, 3:07:26]: I moved for Kimberly Mays and Ivy Sears. [3:07:28, 3:07:33]: For two year terms. For two year terms. I mean two two years in the term. All right. Is there a second to that motion? [3:07:34, 3:07:36]: Mr. Alzheimer's second, all favor, please indicate. [3:07:38, 3:07:56]: Okay. All polls? Oh, it's a unanimous decision? Oh it's a unanimous decision. Okay. Miss Halder, you have that right? Okay. All right. And then we have one let me make sure this Yeah, we got council consideration to fill vacancy to a downtown development authority board and appoint a member to serve the unexpired term. [3:07:57, 3:08:01]: And we only have one applicant and that is Miss Kenya Cook and her information is attached. [3:08:03, 3:08:12]: Okay, from Mr. Alexander and Mr Um Berry. If you know further conversations on favor, please indicate. [3:08:13, 3:08:23]: Yes, unanimous decision. All right. So congratulations to all these individuals for joining the boards. And I would imagine then, Miss Holiday, you'll work it out uh with them and myself to when I can swear them in. [3:08:24, 3:08:24]: Okay. [3:08:26, 3:08:34]: Okay, so on that note, we are now going back to uh the rezoning case that we talked about earlier. [3:08:35, 3:08:44]: Dealing with district two. We're now part of that part of the agenda. So and this deals with uh this goes back to our public hearing. Mayor forward. Yes, sir. [3:08:45, 3:08:46]: Um [3:08:47, 3:08:58]: Not to prolong this, I'll be willing to make a motion, but before I do, uh I'd like to ask uh Miss Hogan and Mr. Gardner to come forward. Sure. [3:08:59, 3:09:01]: Mr. Hogan, Mr. Gardner, come forward, please. [3:09:12, 3:09:15]: Is there anything that you'd like to share before I make my motion? [3:09:19, 3:09:35]: Good evening, Council. Good evening. Uh at this time, applicant would request a rezoning to a PUD with the site plan specific to be worked out with your staff members for approval, retaining two acres of the site as commercial. [3:09:39, 3:09:57]: With the preference for vertical mixed use commercial, that's what we will try. Um, but at any rate it will be commercial, but the seller will have to retain someone for the commercial. So preference will be for vertical mixed use, but it will be up to the seller for c the commercial that is retained there. [3:09:58, 3:09:59]: True. [3:10:00, 3:10:02]: I'm not just such a good one that he's preferred to do. [3:10:06, 3:10:13]: PUD with site plan to be worked out with staff members at a later date. [3:10:18, 3:10:21]: And to retain two acres as commercial on the site. [3:10:22, 3:10:27]: And also to allow an easement for the city for trail connectivity. [3:10:34, 3:10:54]: And when we work with the site plant, so if you look at your that cul-de-sac and that's that roadway, that is a racetrack. And that needs to go away. Um, because a car in the back of that cul-de-sac with a straightaway is gonna speed. So we're gonna work with them to try to get some other mid block crossings and do some other uh [3:10:54, 3:10:57]: traffic harming devices so that that doesn't become a racetrack. [3:10:58, 3:11:03]: Um I could tell you because I've seen it happen before. If you have anything over a thousand feet in length, [3:11:04, 3:11:06]: You're gonna have somebody speeding on that road. [3:11:07, 3:11:08]: Um [3:11:08, 3:11:28]: And obviously getting speed humps and developments is a problem unless you want to mandate that they put it in there. Um but we could actually work with we could work with them to on the design to make it a little bit more pedestrian friend pedestrian friendly with the design and some a little bit more connectivity. But definitely to have the the trail system as well as the potential [3:11:28, 3:11:31]: for medical mixed use which we'll work with them on. [3:11:31, 3:11:44]: Uh and the number of units I think'cause they specified before. If that's fine with with the district council member we'll work to make sure that that site plan reflects what we say and uh with you. Sir, go ahead. [3:11:45, 3:12:04]: Uh are those conditions? Mr. Garden? Yes. Yes, sir. Because I want I didn't take a note of that for my motion that I'm going to make. Yes, sir. So when I do make the motion, I'm gonna refer back to you to include that. Yes, sir. Okay. Uh Mrs. Hogan, um, do you wanna speak to the setbacks before I make my motion? [3:12:06, 3:12:17]: Yes, sir. As previously discussed, we would agree to 30 foot setbacks on the townhomes as we work through the site plan for increased front yard setbacks. [3:12:18, 3:12:19]: The singer detached. [3:12:21, 3:12:26]: single family detached setbacks to remain at twenty feet for the front yard setbacks. [3:12:26, 3:12:31]: Because I know Councilwoman Gann had some issues that we wanted both to be at thirty. [3:12:32, 3:12:49]: So we did take a look at um because we did not want to misspeak for development that is around the area, but fifty foot front yard setback is for much larger lots typically. And we did take a look for similar lot sizes in Henry County and the front yard setback is twenty-five feet in the county. [3:12:50, 3:12:51]: Mm. [3:12:52, 3:12:59]: Mr R Ryan, Mr. Anderson, can you tell me what our normal single family dwelling setback is right now? [3:12:59, 3:13:13]: Depend it depends on it depends on what the zoning is. Um if it's S R R um it depends on Okay, so single So our s single f uh suburban residential is uh fifty feet. [3:13:14, 3:13:22]: Okay. So Berkeley residential's fifty feet. Yeah, but she's going um put so I don't care. Okay. [3:13:23, 3:13:35]: Go you got it, Mr. Go ahead, sir. So with a smaller lot with a smaller lot, but I've had to set back and reduce your your buildable area. And if they're proposing the build a two thousand [3:13:36, 3:13:43]: plus square foot house, it's gonna be hard to put that two thousand square foot house without a looking like a root foot box. Um [3:13:49, 3:13:55]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Mr. Gardner. Yes, sir. So on the single detach, um [3:13:55, 3:14:00]: What's your opinion to for that to remain at twenty feet to set back on the second detach? [3:14:00, 3:14:15]: Just just as a uh a thing, I think that's been typical what what's being approved on priory zones. I think it's been either twenty five or somewhere around the twenty feet on on townhomes is what we've been doing. I think the Davis Road development is the same. [3:14:15, 3:14:31]: as that the other one that's that was zoned on Valley Hill Road is twenty five feet, correct me, or th sorry or thirty. Um so we've we've kinda been between twenty, twenty five and thirty feet on the on the setbacks for townhomes. [3:14:32, 3:14:33]: Um [3:14:33, 3:14:37]: If you're doing single f like I said, if you're doing single family single family cluster. [3:14:38, 3:14:40]: Um ten feet in between. [3:14:40, 3:14:55]: And I I kinda show showed you guys some examples of what five feet in between looks like. Uh it just depends on, you know, what makes the what makes the lot is the house. I could put a trailer on an acre and it's still a trailer. I could put a nice home on it, I could reduce that lot. [3:14:56, 3:15:06]: And I can put a nice quality house on it and that's what's gonna drive the price. It's not the land. Um so if they're willing to do a product that they say they're gonna do. [3:15:07, 3:15:13]: It's up to council whether or not y'all wanna give'em it, but typically on a cluster lot, a smaller lot. [3:15:13, 3:15:13]: Yeah. [3:15:15, 3:15:20]: So Y your your setbacks are a little bit more relaxed than they are at fifty feet for residential. [3:15:21, 3:15:37]: If I may, ma'am forward, um could we look at the difference? I know originally it was at twenty. Council wanna see thirty. Um council with with twenty five be satisfactory. What's the happening with that with twenty four? [3:15:37, 3:15:39]: And staff had recommendations too. [3:15:40, 3:15:55]: Yeah, there was there was some there were come back to Mike, please, sir. That's twenty that's twenty four. They were just outstanding recommendations. Yeah, so that's about what's the recommendation. So what's your me let me twenty five thirty three? Yeah, that's about twenty four. No recommended denial. [3:16:05, 3:16:06]: Um [3:16:07, 3:16:10]: The first condition was the rezoning should not be approved. [3:16:11, 3:16:16]: Unless the comp plan amendment was adopted. But that was already approved through our um [3:16:17, 3:16:20]: Ми удати аупрессив. [3:16:20, 3:16:22]: Playing in um October. [3:16:22, 3:16:26]: No permits shall be issued by the city of Stockbridge until the developer provides [3:16:27, 3:16:32]: to the planning and zoning office a copy of the recorded plat for the recombination of the three parcels. [3:16:32, 3:16:34]: Comprising the subject property. [3:16:35, 3:16:55]: The proposed mixed residential development shall be constructed according to the site plan, which is similar to the um uh condition she made. So the site plan that will be developing consultation with the staff. The developer shall submit construction plans to the Stockbridge Public Works Department six months prior to [3:16:55, 3:16:57]: [11819.5, 11822.7]: Um the applicant shall submit a traffic impact study. [3:17:03, 3:17:08]: environmental impacts. The d developers shall submit an environmental impact study [3:17:08, 3:17:28]: Or hydrology geology studies, which provides satisfactory environmental data. The developer number seven, the developers shall submit an acceptable landscape design plan for the proposed development. Number nine, preservation of the city's lift station. The developer shall take appropriate steps to preserve and protect the city's station. [3:17:28, 3:17:31]: [11851.8, 11852.2]: All right. [3:17:32, 3:17:37]: Architectural design, the design of the single family detached units which are to be located [3:17:37, 3:17:54]: says hold off for a second, please. I was on number nine. Go ahead, sir. Uh I think the issue is the setback for the single detach um it was at twenty according to conversation Miss Gann and Mr. Alexander, they wanted at thirty. [3:17:54, 3:18:14]: I'm trying to see where is the the the the medium here and I think that's really the issue um for the conditions uh in the motion. So um I guess the question is um and I know Mr. Gardner sort of indicated his [3:18:14, 3:18:27]: his concerns um of the 20 and he said fluctuate somewhere between twenty-five and thirty. But I'm just wondering, are we good at twenty-five? [3:18:28, 3:18:28]: Feet. [3:18:32, 3:18:37]: Thirty. Did I see some thumbs up down here? No, he said that thing is thumbs up for twenty five, I think. [3:18:40, 3:18:48]: Oh, well we just trying to get some clarification right now. I'm just trying to see if council is okay with uh twenty five. [3:18:50, 3:18:53]: You wanna be able to see that? [3:18:55, 3:18:56]: I kinda like thirty. [3:18:56, 3:19:02]: Thirty. But I I I kinda think thirty would be the s safest route. [3:19:02, 3:19:07]: Okay. So Mrs. Hogan, w would you like to re reiterate [3:19:07, 3:19:11]: The objection to the thirty feet set back on the uh single detached. [3:19:11, 3:19:13]: That have blessed houses. [3:19:14, 3:19:15]: I was a little bit smaller. [3:19:16, 3:19:16]: Yep. [3:19:18, 3:19:36]: We'll agree to thirty feet front setbacks for the single family detached and thirty feet for the town home units. Okay. Um, working with staff on the site plan for approval. Okay, sound good. So Mayor Ford, not to prolong this issue if there's no other issues. If I could, Councilman. [3:19:36, 3:19:52]: Real quick. I'm sorry. Can I ask a question? Go go ahe go ahead, sir. What what the the is the through road included in there too? In my motion it will be. Okay. Thank you. Go ahead, sir. Councilman, we can't agree to the through road. Speak to that as a condition. Speak to that. [3:19:52, 3:20:12]: The through belt is just not feasible for multiple reasons. Number one, the engineering reasons that I've already stated about the connectivity through the side for vehicular traffic. Number two, it significantly would reduce and change everything as far as the buildable area for the site. Everything that we've agreed to already is. [3:20:12, 3:20:32]: reducing the buildable area of this site. So I think that working with staff to break up some of those roads, to redesign that plan as we've discussed would help as it remains, is not going to change anything for the traffic that currently comes through from drive time for the community that's existing. [3:20:32, 3:20:32]: [12034.1, 12037.2]: Uh, Mr. Garden, you have any comments on the on the through roads? [3:20:39, 3:20:45]: Yes, sir. So I know that was a requirement that we looked at at the the flip and road development. I [3:20:45, 3:20:50]: I can't see um I don't have any elevations in front of me. [3:20:50, 3:20:58]: So I could only go by the applicants until they submit plans to us that reflect that there's a thirty foot difference in elevation. [3:20:58, 3:20:59]: Um [3:20:59, 3:21:07]: But one of the things we wanted to do is to try to see if there's a way for us to least allow for connectivity as part of the trail system because this is an area. [3:21:08, 3:21:14]: that we looked at um that we were investigating with the Path Foundation as a connectivity. [3:21:14, 3:21:34]: um to bring the parts over to this portion of Stockbridge via the adjacent property of a flippin' wheel. They've donated to us the property for the park in the back section of this development. We want to tie into that and bring that as best we can over to um this piece of property and then move it through this piece of property that takes you over to [3:21:34, 3:21:39]: towards the Walmart area. So i is it your recommendation. May I may I forward? [3:21:40, 3:21:41]: Okay. [3:21:41, 3:22:01]: Um is it your recommendation that this does not need to be a part of the condition that we will independently work with the PASS Foundation to try to make this work? Yeah, we will we'll definitely want to have the connectivity for our trail system. Um so that way these folks can take advantage of being able to. [3:22:01, 3:22:05]: connect via the trailer system which should be and I know that [3:22:05, 3:22:15]: probably trying to cross Rees Creek with a with a road is gonna be expensive, but at least with the path, it shouldn't be as and more and allow for that, say, to d the [3:22:16, 3:22:31]: pedestrian connectivity between this development, Flippin' Road, and then to the existing trail system that we have on Flippin' over to Memorial Park. And then at some point when we make the connections over, it'll be able to take you over to Clark Park, Gardner Park, and then beyond from that point. [3:22:32, 3:22:42]: Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Hogan, Mr. Gardner. If council is satisfied, Mayor, I will read into the record uh the motion. Go right here, please sir. [3:22:44, 3:22:50]: I move that in rezoning case number [3:22:51, 3:22:56]: R Z two Zero Two Three Dash Zero Five [3:22:58, 3:23:01]: To rezone the three parcels [3:23:01, 3:23:05]: on Davison Parkway and walked away from [3:23:05, 3:23:12]: C three heavy commercial to PUD Plan Unit Development. [3:23:13, 3:23:22]: To allow for a mixed residential development with the following conditions. [3:23:22, 3:23:24]: To include [3:23:25, 3:23:27]: A retail component. [3:23:29, 3:23:49]: To reduce the number of units to from a hundred to a hundred and twenty-five town homes, a hundred and fifty single detached, setbacks from twenty feet to [3:23:49, 3:23:55]: [12237.0, 12240.0]: And I believe I covered all of the conditions. [3:24:01, 3:24:02]: So [3:24:05, 3:24:09]: What Madame Clerk. What do you have, Madam Clerk? [3:24:10, 3:24:13]: To retain two acres. [3:24:13, 3:24:20]: as commercial with a preference for vertical use and to allow for an it for an easement for the trail plan. [3:24:20, 3:24:28]: Okay, on the retail to retain two acres. [3:24:30, 3:24:32]: for commercial. [3:24:35, 3:24:37]: Um commercial. [3:24:37, 3:24:38]: One example. [3:24:40, 3:24:41]: I'm sorry. [3:24:42, 3:24:42]: Preference for [3:24:43, 3:24:51]: Vertical mixed use. For commercial. Retail commercial. Ver vertical mixed use, which means they can put they can put residential above above the retail. [3:24:52, 3:24:53]: Okay, um [3:24:55, 3:25:03]: Let me get the amendment to the to the motion to retain two acres for [3:25:04, 3:25:05]: Let me get the language correct. [3:25:11, 3:25:12]: Go ahead, Ms. Halliday. [3:25:15, 3:25:16]: Okay. [3:25:18, 3:25:25]: So with that added to the motion, is everything else? [3:25:28, 3:25:28]: Um [3:25:30, 3:25:36]: With rank the number three on the staff condition. And all the staff recommendations had to be added to the case. And to include staff recommendations. [3:25:36, 3:25:39]: With the exception of number three. [3:25:39, 3:25:45]: I'm I'm gonna have the city clerk to read it back. Yeah. We got a couple more. [3:25:45, 3:26:04]: You're not prepared. All right. Because it says there's one. So let me make like Mrs. Hogan and Mrs. Number three. So number three. Staff condition number staff condition number three says that it's approving the current site plan. [3:26:05, 3:26:10]: So that needs to be the save plan is being altered, correct? Yes. Yes. [3:26:12, 3:26:16]: So they're gonna we're we're gonna work to redesign this this site plan. [3:26:17, 3:26:37]: Okay, so I'm gonna ask the Madam Clerk if she's able to stand stand by one second, please if you don't mind. Stand by one second, please. Okay. Mr. Mr. Alexander, you have something to say. Yeah, we had the customary ten-foot multi-use path along the main corridor, which is Davison Parkway, which we've been considering. [3:26:37, 3:26:57]: consistent with uh for all of those standard um in addition to uh what we had the that'll be along the frontage along davison parkway which is consistent with we've been doing said that that is standard that's standard that's required we we require that now on Davison Parkway it's not a corridor is it on all on on all the all the major developments [3:26:57, 3:27:16]: You better make sure. That's not a park where corridor is a good thing. Let's ask Mrs. Hogan is she understanding of that. We're fine with that. Okay, and then something else we've been been attempting to do, Ms. Hogan. You okay with adding street light, decor the street lights along the frontage, along the path? Decor the street lights. [3:27:17, 3:27:17]: Yeah. [3:27:17, 3:27:20]: Yeah. We're fine with that. [3:27:21, 3:27:31]: All right, that's good. See? Yes, you get it. We worked it out. Mr Alexander M Madam Clerk. Making sure we got all this included. Mr. Lights, we put him in. [3:27:33, 3:27:39]: Okay. Um that was an addition or two decorative s uh lighting. [3:27:41, 3:27:48]: Okay. Okay. So now are we talking street lights or the lanterns? [3:27:50, 3:27:58]: I'm just for clarification. Decorative streetlights. Decorative street lights. Okay, Mrs. Holiday, if you would the motion re read the motion. Okay. [3:27:59, 3:28:19]: Well this is D um specified. But you'll do that. Let's stand it anyway. I'm sorry, can't we? [3:28:19, 3:28:20]: Like [3:28:23, 3:28:31]: We're ready, Council. I'm sorry. I I want to make sure you hear this motion to make sure we all in agreement. Yes, sir. Okay. Mr. Toller. Okay. [3:28:32, 3:28:40]: So Councilman Thomas has made a motion to approve RZ twin twenty three oh five to include a retail component. [3:28:40, 3:28:56]: And reducing the townhomes to 125 and the single family detached to 150 would set back to 30 feet for both town homes and single detached homes with decorative street lights and [3:28:57, 3:28:58]: Um rezoning. [3:28:59, 3:29:02]: With a PUD with site plans to include [3:29:03, 3:29:05]: Working out the site plans with the staff. [3:29:05, 3:29:07]: Retain two acres. [3:29:08, 3:29:21]: Can read my writing for commercial with the preference for vertical mixed use and to allow an easement for the trail plan, including staff recommendations removing staff recommendation number three. [3:29:22, 3:29:23]: I miss anything. [3:29:26, 3:29:45]: Sounds like oh and the ten foot multipass that councilman Alexander mentioned is standard and already included. So it does not need to be added. Okay, I've added anyway. So with that being said, uh council, I concur that this is the [3:29:46, 3:29:52]: Mayor Ford. Second. Mr. Alexander second that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [3:29:52, 3:29:53]: Yeah. [3:29:54, 3:30:08]: I have one final question. I wanted to make sure flock cameras. I know Councilwoman Gantt usually asks about that. Flock cameras, are those also included? No, you are not. Mr Anderson. [3:30:09, 3:30:15]: It's not standard. Is that something you want to consider, Councilman Thomas? [3:30:16, 3:30:26]: Isn't that a constitutional agent right now design their own things? They want protection, right? Yes. [3:30:28, 3:30:31]: Yeah, she needs to hear it. They're talking right now. She needs to hear this. [3:30:33, 3:30:35]: And also is this development is it gated? [3:30:37, 3:30:39]: No. No. [3:30:39, 3:30:40]: Sorry, gave it. [3:30:42, 3:30:42]: Okay. [3:30:47, 3:30:48]: Plat camera. [3:30:49, 3:30:51]: Hold on a second, just still talking. [3:31:05, 3:31:16]: Okay, so Mr. Tobin. My last addition to this motion. I want to make sure that you you hear this. Mrs. Barber. [3:31:18, 3:31:21]: Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, uh Al. What it's about flock cameras, go ahead. [3:31:23, 3:31:26]: Block cameras at entrance. [3:31:30, 3:31:31]: Okay. [3:31:32, 3:31:34]: I can tell again that this is the [3:31:35, 3:31:35]: Well shit. [3:31:38, 3:31:43]: Second. Ms. Alzheimer's second that again. All in favor, please indicate. [3:31:43, 3:32:03]: Unanimous decision. Thank God. All right. All right. Thank you, Ms. Hogan. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Announcements of upcoming meeting and events. Council meetings will be held. The city council chambers noting some board and committee meetings will continue to take place via Zoom. [3:32:03, 3:32:23]: Meetings, dates and times, if subject changed, please visit the city's website at WW City of Stockbridge.com. For meeting invitation, link, Facebook page, and contact City Hall officers at 770-389-7900 for updates. Citywide Development Authority meeting is second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall. 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[3:33:22, 3:33:25]: Six o'clock on Wednesday, June twenty sixth. [3:33:27, 3:33:28]: Okay. [3:33:30, 3:33:37]: Our city council work session meeting spe uh well, the city council work work session meeting is on [3:33:38, 3:33:44]: Wednesday at six o'clock. Now w our meeting is Wednesday, six o'clock on the end no no no. [3:33:45, 3:33:45]: No. [3:33:48, 3:33:50]: Right. So [3:33:51, 3:34:02]: City Council work session meeting is going to be Wednesday, June twenty sixth at six PM City Hall Council Chambers. Now the SPLOT six meeting I think is still being negotiated on the time frame. I I will say it's not on Tuesday. [3:34:03, 3:34:08]: We're still trying to negotiate that one. We'll have to let the public know when we get a conf confirmation on that. [3:34:09, 3:34:29]: Okay, community zoning and information meeting, Thursday, June twenty-seventh from six to seven PM, Starby City Hall Chambers, June twenty-seventh. Starbury Citizens Police Viralfield Council meeting first Thursday of each month, six p.m. at Stockbridge Police Account uh communion room. Forty five forty five North Henry Boulevard July meetings is council due to fourth of July holiday. [3:34:29, 3:34:30]: Yeah. [3:34:30, 3:34:50]: City Council meeting second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, July 8th. Youth Council meeting, second Monday of each month, 6:30, City Hall Levi Meeting Room. And Snow July meeting it says due to summer break. City Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. at the City Hall Leave. [3:34:50, 3:35:10]: By meeting room uh July 9th. Upcoming events. Food truck tasty Tuesday is back. Of course, join us at Clark Park at level one one one Davis Road, Stockbridge on Tuesdays, 5 30, 8 p.m. for live music, great food, and a host of free games and activities for the kids. Join Councilman Afonso Thomas for the monthly senior. [3:35:10, 3:35:20]: at Bingo Bash on Wednesday, June 12th, 10 a.m. and to uh 12 noon at Merrill Manor's Conference Center, 111 Davis Road for Raffles, Prizes. [3:35:21, 3:35:41]: Games, snacks, and fun. Bring the kids out to the annual Main Street movie night at Clark Park, Friday, June fourteenth, with free games and activities starting at six PM and features a movie starting the movie's gonna start at sundown. Train Councilman Elton Elz uh Elton L. Zenter District Five Town Hall Meeting Saturday, June twenty ninth. [3:35:41, 3:35:50]: Uh at 10 a.m. Argento at Bridges at Johtoco, 300 Argento Drive. It's got a Madonna address, but it's in stoppers, of course. [3:35:50, 3:36:04]: Join the city of Starbury's for a free annual Juneteenth. Celebration on Wednesday, June 19th from 5 to 9 p.m., the Starbury's Amphitheater. There'll be unique food and art and vendors, fun activities for the kids, DJ, and live performances. [3:36:04, 3:36:24]: Join Councilwoman Lukeia ShaGantt in partnership with Atlanta Food Truck Park for the night market at the Stockbridge Amphitheater parking lot from six PM to nine thirty PM. Special date ju June nineteenth with uh June nineteenth with Juneteenth. There will be vendors, food trucks, activities, games, music and vibes. Contact Tan Bowers. [3:36:24, 3:36:44]: At Tan and Atlanta FoodtruckPark.com for registration and additional information. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, June 26, from 10 a.m. to 12 noon, Stockbridge City Hall. Save the date for the city of Stockbridge free, 4th of July Extravaganza. [3:36:44, 3:37:04]: Fireworks and live music. Gates open at 3 p.m. And concert uh will feature Soul Cartel, Cartel, excuse me, Soul Cartel, Algebra Bless it, Bobby V and a Michael Jackson live tribute. Take place from 5 p.m. to nine p.m. on Starbury's Amphitheater. Save the days for uh Councilwoman Yelanda Barber and [3:37:04, 3:37:24]: Once again partnering with Kix for Kids to collect shoes on Saturday, July 4th, excuse me, Saturday, July 6th and July 13th. The Stockbridge First United Methodist Church, please plan to donate all you can for a life-changing initiative. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative Center around education highlights. [3:37:24, 3:37:44]: lighting and causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow on this as well. Councilman Thomas in honoring veterans and continuous salute to all year long. Please send your pictures of the veterans and their names, branch, rank, and years of service. Please contact Rosalind Rawls to schedule appointment to meet the mayor for more information on council initiatives and events [3:37:44, 3:38:04]: is six seven eight eight three three three three four eight or by way of email rawls at stopbridgega.org. The twenty twenty four Stockbridge Ampathe Concert Series July sixth, Karen Briggs, Contempo Orchestra featuring Phil Perry, Otta Adams, Regina Bell, Shelly Month. [3:38:04, 3:38:10]: [13091.8, 13095.7]: All right. That's on the sixth of July. [3:38:20, 3:38:40]: And Sunday, July 7th, end of the Fourth of July weekend, featuring Charlie Wilson and Uncle Charlie with Robin Thick. Saturday, July 13th, and Sunday the 14th, the night with Kim and Leela James, Saturday the 20th, and uh actually the 21st, 20th and 21st, Lee's Night Out featuring Joseph John. [3:38:40, 3:39:00]: Johnny Gill and Silk. Saturday, July twenty-seventh, the 70s Soul Jam featuring the satellites, the Manhattans, the legendary Blue Notes, Bloodstone, and Peaches and Herb. And right now, Saturday, uh August third, and we'll be babyface with special guests every sunshine and forecast. And this past weekend and the concert we had [3:39:00, 3:39:20]: TLC here and we recognize them for 30 years of the Crazy Sexy's A Cool album. And we had a great pre great concert concert, I was to say, and and a presentation for a prom proclamation for them as well. So it was a very well attended and excellent concert. So Starbucks A and P. [3:39:20, 3:39:40]: Ladies and gentlemen and check out the concert series. And uh it's the summertime, so be help be safe and healthy out there and be and when you're out in the heat, make sure you have you're well hydrated. And if you uh need to get your regular checkups, you know, COVID is still out there with other types of viruses, so make sure you get uh boosted and documented. [3:39:40, 3:39:53]: properly. Keep your health up. On that note, um council, we actually have a second session that we need to go into for legal, real estate and personnel. I need a motion to let's go into second session, please. [3:39:55, 3:40:04]: I move that we go into execution for real estate personnel and litigation. Is there a second? Okay Mr. Berry's second. Dan all in favor, please indicate. [3:40:06, 3:40:12]: Can you announce decision? We'll go into second section. We'll be back soon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. [3:40:23, 3:40:23]: I know. [3:40:24, 3:40:44]: Council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. So move. Okay. So move for Mr. Alzheimer's and I need a second. Second. Second one, Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. Okay, unanimous decision. Now I need a motion to reconvene our city council meeting. Mr. Berry, so move. Second. Mr. Alzheimer's, so moved. All in favor, please. [3:40:44, 3:41:04]: Please indicate. Okay, announce decision. So repeat that. Huh? Go ahead. I got the second. Okay. Okay. Okay. From the meeting, we have an announcement to make. Go ahead, Mr. I make a motion for us to enter to an intergovernmental agreement with the ward authority. Second. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. All right. So announcement. [3:41:04, 3:41:16]: decision. All right, now I need motion to end our our meeting. So Mr. from that's Mr Okay, from Mr. Thomas and Mr. Berry. All favor please indicate. Good night. God bless you all. Thank you, thank you, thank you.