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--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2024-01-30 source: 2024-01-30_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:20, 0:01:39]: Yes, I guess a personal inform information though we took a our individual pictures this evening uh at a group picture. So we have a new photograph that we'll put on the website. All right. Good deal. Uh we now are live and so I have uh six thirteen and I like to call this uh council work session of January thirtieth. [0:01:39, 0:01:40]: Two orders. [0:01:41, 0:01:50]: On that note, we're welcome to have the Henry Cairn School System here with us today, and welcome to have a wonderful principal, Miss Christian, is going to give us the actual invocation. [0:01:51, 0:01:52]: If you can, please stand. [0:01:54, 0:01:56]: It the mic right up front, please. [0:02:07, 0:02:09]: [130.9, 150.9]: Gracious God and Creator, we come humbly before your throne of grace, thanking you and praising you for an opportunity, an opportunity to be alive, an opportunity to serve. We're thankful, Lord, that you have provided us with this space to be able to talk and share and discuss. [0:02:30, 0:02:50]: What is in the best interest of our city, of our county, of our state, of our children, of our community. And so we thank you that we can come together in order to do this and serve you. We ask, Father, that you watch over the elected officials, all of those people who have a voice, Lord. [0:02:50, 0:02:58]: Lord, let it be from a space of love, let it be from a space of charity, let it be from a space of hope. [0:02:59, 0:03:19]: Now, Lord, we ask that you continue to lead, guide us in every way that you can. Have your angels who encamp around us that we may be able to leave safely and go in grace. We ask these things in your son's name. Amen. Amen. We do the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag. [0:03:19, 0:03:28]: [209.4, 211.0]: Madam McClerk, roll call, please. [0:03:34, 0:03:45]: Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Berry. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. Present. [0:03:45, 0:03:47]: Council Member Alexander. [0:03:48, 0:03:54]: Present. Mayor Ford, you have a cord. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Um Mayor Pro Tem uh [0:03:54, 0:03:56]: Berry, and uh there's an amendment to the agenda, please. [0:03:57, 0:03:58]: Yes. [0:03:59, 0:04:10]: We have a uh proposal to move agenda item number twelve to be pr readvertised and presented on the March fourth council meeting. [0:04:10, 0:04:12]: So second to this amendment. [0:04:12, 0:04:13]: I second. [0:04:13, 0:04:15]: Okay, is and all in favor, please indicate? [0:04:16, 0:04:21]: So now it's decision. Thank you very much. Now council, I need a motion to accept the rest of the agenda for this evening, please. [0:04:24, 0:04:31]: Is there a motion to accept the rest of the agenda for them? Okay, Ms. Barber, is there a second? Second. Mr. Berry's second. That on fair, please indicate. [0:04:32, 0:04:39]: Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Uh so what you have before you a review of the uh draft minutes from the January eighth meeting. [0:04:40, 0:04:51]: Uh take a look at those. If there are any changes, please let the clerk know that and then we'll be able to approve of these minutes at our next monthly meeting uh next month. Um Madam Clerk, any public comments at all? [0:04:53, 0:04:55]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. [0:04:55, 0:04:57]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have a consent agenda. [0:04:58, 0:05:18]: Council Consideration to adopt the Metropolitan North Georgia Water Planning District, MNGWP, Modolitter Control Ordinance. And also Council Consideration, excuse me, Council Consideration to approve and renewal of a contract. Number 2019-0032P. Johnson Control Security Solutions LLC [0:05:18, 0:05:34]: LC, TICO Integrated Security LLC for facility equipment systems and services an amount of uh$100,000. Funding source is from the government building budgeted items. On that note, towards two consent items, uh the emotion to receive those. [0:05:36, 0:05:48]: Um, let me just say this. The number three, I think we I'd like to just have some discussion on that since it's the amount of what it is and just so the public understands what it is. [0:05:48, 0:05:54]: All right, so otherwise then we would need a a motion to take it off the consent agenda, this is my assumption. [0:05:55, 0:06:08]: Uh yes, I think I just think we just need to just make sure we explain clearly what that is so folks understand the progress we're making. So move. Okay, so is there a second to that particular motion to take item number three off with further discussion? [0:06:09, 0:06:11]: I second. Okay, Alfair, please indicate. [0:06:12, 0:06:29]: All right. On that note, then item number two on the consent agenda, is there a motion to go ahead and and receive that as well? Yes, so move. Okay. And all in favor I would imagine be okay, right? All in favor? All right. So on consent okay, good deal. Now I second. Second. I second. Miss Miss Gantt second, I'm sorry. [0:06:29, 0:06:49]: All favor, please indicate. All right, thank you very much. All right. Uh, so now, once again, um, item number three for consideration and you want discussion. Um, once again, let me take let me read this. Hold on a second. Council consideration to approve the renewal of contract number two zero one nine-zero zero three two p chapter control security solutions LLC type co integrated security. [0:06:49, 0:07:01]: Security L L C for the facilities, equipment, systems and services an amount of one hundred thousand dollars. Funding source is the governmental budget uh governmental building budgeted funds. All right, Miss Alexander, you have some comments on that. [0:07:01, 0:07:13]: Uh I would say this, let's just go ahead and go with the uh the let the school board make their presentation and then we can have our discussion. No, no, sir. Let's let's no no. We n let's take care of this. The school board be fine. Let's have your discussion, sir. [0:07:13, 0:07:17]: Well certainly I just want to sit at minute Mr Gardner will you come to the podium? [0:07:26, 0:07:30]: I always like to feel comfortable that we we're being clear and transparent. [0:07:30, 0:07:32]: With such a large amount. [0:07:32, 0:07:52]: Explain to the public what we're doing. We've embarked upon a series of or Mr. Aaron as well. A series of security measures for different facilities around the fact and then other uh key access points as we've added on new buildings in the amphitheater and that stuff. So talk about what [0:07:52, 0:07:56]: What this does so that the public will understand what we're doing. [0:07:57, 0:08:07]: Yes, sir. So this is our uh agreement with Johnson Patrol that put the security system in this building and as well as other city buildings to include our key card and CCTV. [0:08:07, 0:08:11]: Um and obviously that's proprietary software and technology, so [0:08:11, 0:08:15]: Um this is to r to keep our maintenance agreement with those guys going. [0:08:16, 0:08:36]: All right, so as we've grown and we've updated, what has changed? I think we did some upgrades at Merrill Manders Conference Center. Uh is that correct? We did uh as we added on the new public works building, we've added on those items as we went along through these. What do these enhancements do uh to secure? [0:08:36, 0:08:45]: secure these buildings and to secure that uh we're we're being safe and the information is being on the building and the information is being protected. [0:08:46, 0:09:06]: Well, this ensures that uh non public portions of city buildings, you have to have key card access so it's limited to employees. And also at Namerrell Manders, they'll be able to issue temporary cars to patrons that rent the facility so that they don't have to have a physical key and no one has to come in. [0:09:06, 0:09:11]: and then uh open a building for'em. The car works similar to as a hotel. [0:09:11, 0:09:31]: You uh program'em based on the time that you're gonna be in that facility and then after that the card expires so you no longer have access to it, but you just don't have to have staff coming in and unlocking the buildings. Also, this is our fire alarm and our burglar alarm system as well. It's under this maintenance agreement for all city buildings. [0:09:31, 0:09:46]: includes c the CT the cameras and all of that. Yes, sir it does. So what uh as far as they're concerning the technology and possible upgrades, the clarity of the cameras and the definition, so is that part of being upgraded as we go along? [0:09:46, 0:09:57]: I think about a year and a half, two years ago, Mayor and Council approved for us to upgrade all of the uh access control, security cameras and fire alarm and burglar alarm. [0:09:57, 0:09:59]: monitoring system so [0:09:59, 0:10:19]: This is part of the the process that operates those systems. Okay, there was some talk, my final question of the access area where the Levi room is and the other conference room uh putting some control access is there. Because literally if there's a meeting going on, somebody could walk in the city hall and and walk. [0:10:19, 0:10:39]: Walk back through there. So what are we are we adding something there? Because I know there was some discussion about that. There's there's a key card for the Levi room but the Patrick Henry. I'm saying in terms of that door to access that back. Yes, there's a key card there you have to scan in. Okay, so it was just opened when I came through. Sir. So the door are [0:10:39, 0:10:58]: I guess when we did the um when we did the uh meeting with the congressman the door was just so yes, they'll leave it open so that everybody doesn't have everybody does not have a badge. So that's a good that's what got me'cause uh I that is already there. It's already in place. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Counsel uh go ahead, Miss Barber. [0:10:58, 0:11:03]: Um according to the background that is included on this [0:11:05, 0:11:06]: Agenda item four. [0:11:06, 0:11:10]: It says the potential overall cost of this contract. [0:11:11, 0:11:14]: It's nine hundred and eight thousand dollars. That was back in two thousand two. [0:11:15, 0:11:35]: When no when we in when we went back and updated the uh equipment that was original to the building. So once we started we did City Hall and all the other buildings, but also the police department was a part of that. We added the public works building which was new, the amphitheater as well. [0:11:35, 0:11:45]: is all under this contract to update and revise the um access control software. So I'm trying to figure out what the difference is. I know back in two thousand two [0:11:46, 0:11:47]: The cost of the contract. [0:11:48, 0:11:53]: was nine hundred and eight thousand that included some installations in some areas you just mentioned. [0:11:54, 0:12:14]: What is the difference? There might be a typo. It might it should have said like twenty twenty-two when we updated. Remember when p uh Chief Tramer came before council? We were getting ready to vote on it. Then council wanted the chief to look at uh everything. So the chief looked at everything and so we updated all the buildings. [0:12:15, 0:12:25]: So what what I wanna know is what is the difference. What is the difference between what we approved then and what you're asking us to approve now? [0:12:25, 0:12:26]: So [0:12:26, 0:12:27]: Yeah. [0:12:28, 0:12:31]: You're saying that there's something that says two thousand and two? [0:12:33, 0:12:37]: according to the item the agenda item form. [0:12:38, 0:12:39]: In the background it says [0:12:40, 0:12:42]: May thirty first of twenty twenty two. [0:12:42, 0:12:44]: the Public Works Department requested approval. [0:12:45, 0:12:46]: To increase the contract amount. [0:12:46, 0:12:48]: For Johnson controls [0:12:48, 0:12:50]: Security solutions. [0:12:50, 0:12:53]: In the amount of five hundred and thirty six thousand [0:12:53, 0:12:55]: Five hundred and eighty four dollars and ninety two cents. [0:12:55, 0:12:57]: For installation costs. [0:12:57, 0:12:59]: Plus the five thousand. [0:12:59, 0:13:00]: Four hundred and seventy eight. [0:13:01, 0:13:03]: For service costs and monitoring costs. [0:13:03, 0:13:05]: For a total of five hundred and forty two thousand. [0:13:06, 0:13:08]: Sixty two dollars and ninety two cents. [0:13:09, 0:13:11]: Then it goes on to say [0:13:11, 0:13:15]: For an overall potential contract of nine hundred [0:13:15, 0:13:17]: Eight thousand dollars. [0:13:18, 0:13:23]: So I wanna know what is the difference the what you're asking us to approve now. So [0:13:23, 0:13:43]: That five hundred thousand was for the updating, upgrading of all the access controls. And then it's it's showing that additional four hundred thousand. That's for the m the actual monitoring and all of that for like I think it's four year, a four year term. So you'll be s you're gonna be spending a hundred thousand dollars per year for the [0:13:43, 0:13:50]: maintenance agreement to be able to use the system that's proprietary to Johnson control. [0:13:51, 0:13:54]: Mr Gardner, are you looking at this? [0:13:55, 0:13:57]: Okay. [0:13:57, 0:14:01]: Did we have to pay for Johnson control to continue to monitor our systems? [0:14:01, 0:14:03]: Over the next year. [0:14:03, 0:14:16]: And if we decide to move away from that, obviously, because their system is proprietary, we'd had to change the all of the background and background equipment that facilitates the C C T V and all of that. So this is the annual maintenance agreement. So if we have any issues [0:14:16, 0:14:19]: During the time over this next course year with the system, they come in and they just [0:14:20, 0:14:29]: Thank you. The five hundred and the other amount that added up to nine hundred. Thank you. You're welcome. [0:14:29, 0:14:32]: Are you not a question for the council? Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:14:33, 0:14:34]: Thank you. Oh, Ryan, please. [0:14:34, 0:14:38]: Mr Aaron, how are you today? I'm doing just fine, sir. Thank you. [0:14:38, 0:14:42]: Uh I notice here that the expiration date is [0:14:43, 0:14:46]: April twenty second, twenty twenty five. [0:14:48, 0:14:50]: Will you and your staff [0:14:51, 0:14:54]: provide an analysis to the council. [0:14:54, 0:14:56]: As to the efficiency [0:14:57, 0:15:17]: Um before it comes back before the council so we can sort of judge and analyze the efficiency of of this. So will you actually bring this back before the expiration date? I don't know if there's an actual way to quantify the efficiency. It's just it's a system that allows you access control. [0:15:16, 0:15:21]: Oh and also regulate different areas where you can come in and out. [0:15:21, 0:15:41]: If you choose not to renew the contract, then you're gonna have to replace the whole system. It's proprietary to Johnson control. Nobody else can come in and run this system. It has to be operated under the maintenance agreement. Mr. Gardner, go ahead before I ask these other questions. I'll give you a quick update. Um and um Madam City Clerk could [0:15:41, 0:15:46]: attest to this. So a few months ago, um, we had someone that came into this building. [0:15:47, 0:15:51]: That's where I was going. [0:15:51, 0:15:57]: Um a gentleman and um when the deputy city clerk came in here to put the agenda items on the [0:15:57, 0:15:59]: on the diocese typically do. [0:16:00, 0:16:01]: There was a new gentleman. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: In the right here in the pew behind us. [0:16:04, 0:16:14]: And scared her, but we were able to go back and pull all of the f cameras when he broke in, that was saved in the system. We able to see him moving throughout the building where he could get access. [0:16:14, 0:16:32]: Right. And um up to this point. And that's I think that happened initially when they were installing the system. Yes. But the cameras were already in. So we were able to track him from the front door city hall to back around the building to the back door when he came in, when he couldn't get through the areas to access in. [0:16:32, 0:16:52]: He went up, came upstairs here, and then fell asleep. And in the middle of the night, I guess something scared him and he jumped back up and ran around and went back to sleep. And we found him that morning. So yes, the system. But that's my point. Yes. He was able to get in. Right. That that system has now been been updated and changed. Um it was the lock system on the magnetic. [0:16:52, 0:16:55]: [1015.5, 1024.0]: So that system was upgraded and changed. But in essence, the camera the camera system worked because we were able to identify who he was, had clear pictures of him. [0:17:04, 0:17:16]: pictures of him moving around and actually getting in the building. So we wanted to prosecute him. We always had enough information to prosecute him because we had clear pictures of who he was, his ID and so forth. Well I I still say for me though [0:17:16, 0:17:20]: I would like to know before April twenty second, twenty twenty five. [0:17:20, 0:17:26]: The efficiency. Yes, sir. I would not want to wait until we are here making a decision. [0:17:27, 0:17:28]: Understood. Thank you. You're welcome. [0:17:29, 0:17:30]: All right, any any other questions, Council? [0:17:31, 0:17:33]: If not any motion to accept this uh proposal. [0:17:33, 0:17:39]: Some of is there a second? Second. Um okay from um Miss Gantt to Miss Alzender. All in favor, please indicate. [0:17:39, 0:17:42]: It's unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Uh [0:17:42, 0:17:49]: Aaron Presentation, Henry County School Board Update presented by Doctor Elizabeth Davis and her staff. Welcome. [0:17:49, 0:17:52]: To the chambers in Starbury City Hall. [0:17:54, 0:17:55]: There we go. [0:17:57, 0:18:02]: Outstanding. Outstanding. I know that's for Dr. Robinsine. I understand that. [0:18:03, 0:18:23]: But good afternoon, uh mayor, members of the city council, and citizens of the city of Stockbridge. Um thank you so much for the opportunity for Henry County Schools to have um an item on uh one of your monthly agendas. Um this is really a um just a special moment that models for [0:18:23, 0:18:43]: For our community, our effort to work in collaboration with our agencies and serve our community together. We are so proud of our schools in our Stockbridge cluster, and we know that our communities recognize the wonderful work and leadership of each of our. [0:18:43, 0:18:57]: Our schools. And so we think it's appropriate to bring directly to you an update on just how schools are doing and how we together make sure the young people in Henry County have the best possible education. [0:18:57, 0:19:17]: Now tonight I want to make sure I mention that we are joined by the chair of the Henry County Board of Education, Mrs. Sophie Pope, who's able to be here tonight. And all of our board members are, of course, thankful for our collaboration. The Stockbridge Cluster Principals are also here tonight, and we are very proud of them. They will be introduced here in a moment, so you can applause for them then. [0:19:18, 0:19:32]: That's your preview that you should do that then. Um but of course our principals are juggling about a thousand things still right at this moment, including events happening back at their schools. So while they love being here, they uh will need to step out at the conclusion of our of our time together. [0:19:32, 0:19:52]: Um and uh and then today I'm really excited that um bringing you the report for public education in the city of Stockbridge is um Dr. Simon Robinsine, the assistant superintendent who supervises our Stockbridge schools and who provides the leadership um for uh this cluster. So at this time I'm gonna turn it over to Dr. Robinsine and I'm happy [0:19:52, 0:19:58]: Happy to join him at the conclusion if there was any discussion that you would like to have. Doctor Robinson. [0:19:59, 0:20:19]: Thank you, Dr. Davis, for that introduction. Mayor Ford, members of the Stockbridge City Council, I'm glad to be here and thank you for the opportunity. And at this time, I'd like to go ahead and introduce our principals here. I have Dr. Cedric Peoples from Stockbridge Elementary, right across the street. We have Dr. Carolyn Flemister Oliver, Smith Barnes Elementary. We have Yvette Christian, Stockbridge Miller. [0:20:19, 0:20:20]: [1221.5, 1228.9]: Dr. James Thornton, principal of Stockbridge High School. Dr. Venetia Benjamin, principal of Favreau Elementary. [0:20:30, 0:20:30]: We have [0:20:31, 0:20:33]: Mrs. Lois Barney, principal of Austin Road Elementary. [0:20:34, 0:20:37]: We have our senior director, Mrs. Carla Austin. [0:20:37, 0:20:47]: We have my supervisor, chief of leadership, Mrs. Marianne Sutter, Chief of Staff, Summer Cox, Chief of Operations. We yes we'll all right. [0:20:48, 0:20:58]: Fantastic. Thank you so much. And so I'll begin our introduction today with a brief overview, as well as once again we have our board chair, Mrs. Sophie Popin, with us today as well. [0:20:59, 0:21:12]: Let me do something here real quick. Okay, I'm I'm probably interrupting you, but I'm w I think collectively as a group here, this council, we're so proud of those Stockbridge Tigers. Yes. We want you to do that again next year, all right? Stockbridge Tigers going to state championship. All right. [0:21:12, 0:21:32]: We were definitely gonna get in. And I don't know if I made sure Josh Malcolm over here, our team of operation makes sure. All right. Keep the tigers together. Okay. And also before we get started, I just want to thank you all for the collaboration with Stockbridge Elementary. On last Friday, we had over 400 parents at Stockbridge for Muff Muffins for Mom and over 350 dads at Stockbridge Elementary for two weeks ago. Don't Donuts for Dad. Outstanding. Outstanding. Appreciate it. [0:21:32, 0:21:33]: No. [0:21:34, 0:21:42]: All right, tonight I'll provide three updates over three topics here. But before we get started as well, let me go ahead and make sure. [0:21:42, 0:21:45]: That I acknowledge our other board members. [0:21:46, 0:21:55]: Also, we have Mrs. Annette Edwards, our form she's not in attendance today, but I just wanna announce those. She's our former chair, but current vice chair for District Two. [0:21:55, 0:21:57]: Dr. Pam Nuttle, District One. [0:21:57, 0:21:59]: Board Chair Holly Cobb, District Three. [0:21:59, 0:22:02]: And Mr McKenzie McDaniel, board member of district five. [0:22:03, 0:22:17]: And also, I'd like to acknowledge that our board of the education has been designated as an exemplary board for the past three consecutive years, but they are this year's state governance board, state governance team of the year. Yes, sir. [0:22:21, 0:22:28]: And I mention this because in Henry County we believe that a high performing school district begins with a high performing board of education. [0:22:29, 0:22:36]: And their collective leadership matters for ensuring that we are focused on improving the outcomes of our students each and every day in Henry County. [0:22:38, 0:22:45]: As you can see up on the board, I mentioned a high performing school district starts with a high performing board of education. [0:22:46, 0:22:52]: And our board has set clear direction for the district by defining our vision, mission, and core beliefs. [0:22:52, 0:23:10]: Approving our core policies, developing our community-inspired strategic plan, and identifying our priority student outcomes. We refer to this slide as our compass, as you can see on the board, as it grounds our work and provides the guardrails needed to keep us on track to meeting our goals in our school district. [0:23:13, 0:23:25]: And this year we have adopted the slogan Winning for Kids, Every Kid, Every Minute, Every Day. And as part of our ambitious pursuit of more learning, more growing, and more celebrating in Henry County. [0:23:26, 0:23:35]: So what does this mean for our community? This means that every adult within Henry County Schools is responsible for positioning our students for success and every kid, every minute, every day. [0:23:36, 0:23:42]: We are on an ambitious pursuit in Henry County to be the fastest improving and highest achieving school district in Metro Atlanta. [0:23:43, 0:23:48]: while prioritizing student connectivity and the belief in the capability of every child. [0:23:50, 0:23:51]: And as you can see. [0:23:52, 0:23:52]: [1433.2, 1442.9]: I'll just give a be um a few brief facts. As you can see on the slide, I'm proud to say that our school district is the eighth largest in the state of Georgia and growing. [0:24:03, 0:24:14]: You can see the growth on the chart as well. We now have close to forty-three thousand students with almost six thousand employees, making in the Henry County School System the largest employer in Henry County. [0:24:15, 0:24:19]: And I would also like to mention that the Stockbridge cluster is not only the largest cluster in our school system. [0:24:20, 0:24:23]: But it's one of the fastest growing clusters, and we're proud to partner with you. [0:24:24, 0:24:28]: Mayor Ford and the stopbridge city council to serve over five thousand students in our cluster daily. [0:24:29, 0:24:41]: And last May, I'm proud to announce that over 250 high school students at Stockbridge High walked across the stage to accept their diploma, and they were ready to take their next steps in life. We prepare on the right-hand Stockbridge. [0:24:41, 0:24:56]: And Stockbridge High Class of 2023 reported more than four million dollars in scholarships, and our students received acceptance to at least seven hundred and thirty-eight colleges and universities, and we're anticipating these numbers to increase this academic year under the guidance of Dr. James Thornton. [0:25:00, 0:25:02]: Excuse me. But mentioned in our compass slide. [0:25:02, 0:25:06]: I would like to mention that our strategic plan is the foundation of our work. [0:25:06, 0:25:13]: And this was this work was developed in our community and inspir our inspired strategic plan began in the fall of two thousand and nineteen. [0:25:14, 0:25:16]: Our Board of Education held meetings throughout the community. [0:25:16, 0:25:20]: And we took the voices, we heard the voices of teachers, parents, students, school leaders. [0:25:21, 0:25:22]: Faith based leaders, community leaders, [0:25:23, 0:25:26]: This all equated to over eight thousand people weighing in from the community. [0:25:26, 0:25:29]: And five key themes emerged, and we'll talk about those now. [0:25:31, 0:25:36]: And from the first reading of the Shared Community and Spire Strategic Plan, which was on March ninth, twenty twenty. [0:25:37, 0:25:44]: Seventy two hours later we all know the global p pandemic took place. But despite this disruption, learning continued. [0:25:44, 0:25:51]: And we persisted to advance the work in our district that was called for by a community which adopted our plan in July of twenty twenty. [0:25:51, 0:26:01]: And we adopted then five initiatives came out of that from our community. And the first one is Strategic Action One, which advances learning outcomes experiences for all students. [0:26:02, 0:26:07]: Our action two is conditions for attracting and retaining highly qualified educators. [0:26:08, 0:26:15]: Strategic Action Three wants to ensure that all students, employees, families, and partners feel valued and connected at our schools. [0:26:16, 0:26:19]: Action four once advances student health. [0:26:19, 0:26:21]: Аміном садит and employee health. [0:26:21, 0:26:23]: Wellness and support structures. [0:26:24, 0:26:29]: And our strategic action five advancing a high performing operational culture. [0:26:33, 0:26:53]: But in addition to clear improvements, we had to find a way to measure these. And so the community told us that as well, how they would measure the effectiveness our Henry County schools are doing. So our Board of Education adopted measures into what we call in our school district priority student outcomes. And these measures are above and beyond what the state accountability measures. [0:26:53, 0:26:58]: and are unique elements of our accountability for schools inherent to set us apart from the state. [0:26:58, 0:27:01]: And what we look at is literacy, proficiency. [0:27:01, 0:27:06]: Readiness to learn, college and career and life readiness, which you can see up on the screens. [0:27:10, 0:27:19]: But also I would like to note that we have increased the number of students taking advanced coursework as well as the number of advanced course options in elementary, middle, and high school. [0:27:19, 0:27:35]: in our high schools. We have we now have more than we now have more fourth and fifth grade students taking advanced math than ever before, and we've doubled the number of middle school students earning high school credits in our schools. Right now over 200 students are currently taking advanced math in our elementary schools. [0:27:35, 0:27:45]: And it's also worth noting today that every one of our high schools offers a number of advanced placement courses. Stockbridge High currently offers twelve advanced placement and dual enrollment courses. [0:27:46, 0:27:48]: With a plan to increase this in the upcoming year. [0:27:48, 0:28:04]: And Stockbridge High also has a unique opportunity for 13 students to take a dual enrollment course with a prestigious university. And again, this is truly how we give meaning to the words when we say more access and more opportunities, which leads to improved outcomes for our students. [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: What we also like to talk about [0:28:10, 0:28:14]: Із промали фічі види на стратегічний план і за резулни фокус о СТЕМ. [0:28:15, 0:28:18]: В чис, технології, інженер і математик. [0:28:19, 0:28:25]: Our community very clearly expressed a desire that the student experience should be connected to opportunities in STEM. [0:28:25, 0:28:26]: And we have responded. [0:28:27, 0:28:30]: The board has made significant investments in this area, nearly two million dollars worth. [0:28:31, 0:28:36]: We have STEM teachers in every school have been provided who have been provided with modern tools and equipment. [0:28:37, 0:28:50]: We have STEM labs, robotics equipment, and we now have computer science and engineering courses offered in middle school, and we have a brand new state-of-the-art STEM high school planned for the 26-27 school year right across the street. [0:28:51, 0:29:11]: We're excited about that, yes sir. And we're extremely excited as well. And let me let me just add a little point here. Okay. Something you may not know. Effectively, 16 January, just last week, we now have what call a quiet zone. So that means when your school gets instructed, you will kids will not hear that train going down the tracks. Excellent. [0:29:11, 0:29:13]: They will not. [0:29:13, 0:29:26]: We finally worked it out with North Force Southern. All right. We're proud of that too. Good deal. Good deal. So as you can see, we talked about it just a little bit, but coming right across the street will be the opening of our new STEM high school, which we're excited about. [0:29:27, 0:29:47]: And as you can see, our district has, as you can see on the slide, our district has created a comprehensive plan to ensure that when the STEM high school opens in Stockbridge, it is the best STEM high school in the nation. Our school district is currently working closely with our STEM advisory, a group of local and regional practitioners, business leaders, educators, and STEM experts who are [0:29:47, 0:29:57]: helping to cultivate our vision for STEM education by sharing real-world experiences and unique industry insights as we finalize the plan for the new STEM High School. [0:29:59, 0:30:05]: As you can see, the proposed STEM offerings at the new STEM high school will include aerospace. [0:30:05, 0:30:07]: With a concentration in electrical engineering. [0:30:08, 0:30:09]: Biotechnology. [0:30:10, 0:30:13]: And medical science and also sustainable and green energy. [0:30:14, 0:30:14]: Well. [0:30:18, 0:30:38]: Our our community also wanted more fine arts, and our school board has delivered in that also. In our elementary schools, we see choral and theater programs emerging. In every one of our middle and high schools, we have chorus, band, visual arts, and we'll soon have a theater program and orchestra as well. And our board has invested in new equipment for arts programs. [0:30:38, 0:30:50]: across all levels that they plan for replace replacing all marching band uniforms over the next few years so Stockbridge Howard received theirs in November. Even though the uniforms were nice and the band uniforms look well, but we get some new uniform band uniforms coming in November. [0:30:54, 0:30:55]: And of course [0:30:56, 0:31:16]: We've also seen a change in the student experience related to the learning environment and athletics. When our families wonder when their students have new athletic equipment, our chorus rise as we started, with the conversation with our superintendent writer stop Ridge Middle, we cannot answer. We now have a growth and replacement system in place to ensure these needs are addressed. When teachers wonder [0:31:16, 0:31:36]: When would the aging classroom furniture or reading rug for our early learning classrooms be replaced? We now have a clear system to provide that response. As I stated earlier, as we talk about our growth and replacement, we can say that Fairview Elementary was in the first growth and replacement round and it received new furniture this fall. That's part of the initial plan. [0:31:36, 0:31:46]: Also, our Board of Education through their vision for the district and a response to the community voice has identified opportunities to elevate the quality of learning environments for every student. [0:31:50, 0:31:51]: And [0:31:51, 0:31:52]: Okay. [0:31:52, 0:32:12]: So I'll just like to move into the second part of our update, which is our education performance. But I just want to talk about some of our measures. We also have we have state assessments and the Georgia milestones, and the results demonstrated some very promising indicators of exceptional learning that took place right here in Henry County. And you will see in a minute, right in our stock. [0:32:12, 0:32:14]: Up raised cluster schools. [0:32:15, 0:32:28]: Reading proficiency was identified as a priority in our strategic strategic plan, and the board set an integral goal of 70% reading proficiency, and we're currently at 57%. While we'll continue to focus on improving proven reading, [0:32:28, 0:32:40]: I would like to highlight the fact that we have seen increases in the percentage of students reading on or above grade level in grades fourth, seventh, and eighth, with fifth grade remaining the same from twenty two thousand twenty two to th two thousand twenty three. [0:32:41, 0:32:48]: And as we look at our map performance following a year that demonstrated an eight percent improvement over pre-pandemic performance in algebra one. [0:32:48, 0:32:57]: We have stabilized our math achievement and we have been able to continue bright spots with an increase in mathematics proficiency for grades fourth and fifth. [0:32:59, 0:33:19]: And also another bright spot not captured in the Georgia milestone scores is how our graduate rate graduation rate of 87.7 outpaced the state at 84.4. And overall, our rate increased by nearly one point over the twenty-two rate. And also, I'd like to highlight that our stock Stockbridge High School increased the graduation rate by [0:33:19, 0:33:21]: Three percent. Outstanding. [0:33:23, 0:33:43]: Now I'd like to take a moment and review a few more items that are unique to our Stockbridge cluster. I'm proud to announce that we talked about earlier that we are the 4-A state runner-up and runner-ups in football, which we're very proud of. And also, Austin Road Middle and Stockbridge Middle School, Stadiums are offered renovations, and those renovations are [0:33:43, 0:33:45]: Yeah. [0:33:45, 0:34:05]: Our chess team at Fairview was visited by our state superintendent who actually sat on and played a I mean a game of chess with one of our students in December. And the Stockbridge cluster is home to the Fairview PAC Center, which has hosted over 800 events with over 1 million attendees. And we have over 35,000 students from throughout the district who participated in an event held. [0:34:05, 0:34:07]: Right here at the Fair V Fairview Pack. [0:34:11, 0:34:26]: So earlier I introduced the outstanding and distinguished educators who lead our students in the Stop Rich cluster and within the investments that we have made to advance our community inspired strategic plan, we have truly showed that our schools have produced some impressive outcomes. [0:34:27, 0:34:43]: From my next slide, you will see that there are significant achievements worth being lifted up at every school, but I would like to draw your attention to what schools have produced double digit academic gains. Austin Road produced a sixteen percent increase in math. Austin Road Elementary also [0:34:43, 0:34:45]: Produced an eleven point increase in science. [0:34:46, 0:34:49]: Austin Road Middle School, a fourteen point increase in math. [0:34:49, 0:34:52]: and stop bridge middle a ten point increase in reading. [0:34:53, 0:35:00]: There are other noteworthy achievements as you can see, but these accomplish accomplishments are the result of a committed focus [0:35:00, 0:35:08]: To elevate the expectations that we have for our students, our teachers, and our leaders. And it has been no surprise that they have responded. [0:35:08, 0:35:17]: And I just add that this is only the beginning. Stockbridge. This is truly why we're focused on more learning, more growing, and more celebrating in Henry County schools. [0:35:20, 0:35:30]: Our final topic this evening will be on safety. Keeping our students safe is our first priority, and as of today we have made significant investments in safety, thirty three million dollars worth. [0:35:31, 0:35:47]: Back in April, our Board of Education held community conversations to talk about how we would keep our kids safe together and the themes that emerged related to campus safety security investments, student and staff safety, and student conduct expectations. [0:35:49, 0:36:01]: On the screen, you can see the investments and enhancement enhancements we have made this school year in response to the community's feedback. But most of these investments have been focused on improving our safety infrastructure. [0:36:01, 0:36:06]: For example, when you visit any of our Stockbridge cluster schools, you'll notice that there's a single point of entry [0:36:06, 0:36:09]: Thanks to a new buzzer control access system. [0:36:09, 0:36:29]: We've also increased the ability to monitor our exterior doors with our new door jar alarms and have increased cameras in schools and on our school buses. We've also added new school staffing models, which now include campus safety monitors for our high school and middle schools. And also, just this fall, we implemented our weapons detection system. [0:36:29, 0:36:35]: For our largest attended public events, then this new system has been successfully used at our Stockbridge High Football Game. [0:36:39, 0:36:49]: But as I stated earlier, we're committed to winning for kids, every kid, every minute, every day. And as a part of our ambitious pursuit of more learning, more growing, and more celebrating. [0:36:49, 0:36:54]: Thank you for this opportunity to continue our close relationship and taking a minute to listen to [0:36:55, 0:36:57]: A few of our highlights from the Stockbridge community. [0:36:57, 0:36:57]: You. [0:36:58, 0:37:18]: Outstanding. All right. Thank you so much for this opportunity. I I would tell you that uh and I've I've probably mentioned this before, uh, but I will tell you that uh I've always I personally always and I would imagine the council will chime in on their time here. [0:37:18, 0:37:38]: appreciated the Henry County school system and now Stockbridge el cluster there because my one only child went to Henry County Schools, Dutchtown, but one Henry County Schools. But this was one of the things that when I got transferred from Fort Lewis, Washington to Fort McPherson, um geez, almost 20 years ago, that uh settled right here, the facet [0:37:38, 0:37:58]: growing county, one fast growing county is a nation. And we my wife and I look into what the school system looks like and I tell you what, it's fantastic. I'm I'm sold. I'm bent here. I'm not moving anywhere. You know, and so personally it's it's just I appreciate it. And and the growth issue that we have going on, we're dealing with annexations and and zoning type of change. [0:37:58, 0:38:18]: and growth and it always comes up. We got a full house here talking about roads and education and schools and well we can't not deny any type of development based on a road situation or on schools and we can't do that legally. So but we understand the growth. We're feeling it and we're actually helping it. They're coming and we're helping the process and get people [0:38:18, 0:38:38]: Winning community. On that note, I'm gonna be quiet. But I'll tell you, I love the briefing. I appreciate I appreciate I appreciate Henry Carey Schools, and I've seen some of you mo uh multiple times, and I'm always running into Dr. Davis, and uh we enjoy we had we have great conversations. But anyway, yes, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Mr. Alexander. Okay, certainly I appreciate the prof uh the present. [0:38:38, 0:38:58]: Presentation. Thank the results are good. You know, even time we always talk about the uh stock bridge cluster. And I think uh you know the the improvement is very, very good. See, I think one thing that I certainly want to clarify, and I think the mayor kind of touched on it a little bit, is that we have [0:38:58, 0:39:18]: My neighborhood presume more all of us have McDonough addresses. But Eagles Landing High is a stockbridge school. Let us not make any mistake about it. Because all of the neighborhoods, my district, 70% of us have uh McDonough addresses, Summit at Eagles Landing, Magnolia's at Eagles Landing. [0:39:18, 0:39:38]: Uh Clark um Winslow, Terrace at Eagles Landing, all of those communities go to Eagles Landing High. My kids had lunch with Miss Gru Miss Grubbs over at Flippin Elementary with my granddaughter uh for grandparents' day over there. And uh they're doing a magnificent job over there. And certainly I'd like to hear certain uh [0:39:38, 0:39:58]: Here's some uh results as it reflects with flipping at Eagles Landing High School because my daughter and my son both graduated. My son actually went to flipping the very first year that it was open. Wow. I remember going to Hickory Flat to try to register him, and they said, No, no, you got a school right down the street from you that just opened. [0:39:58, 0:40:18]: And so he was the initial class over there at Flippin Elementary when that school did open up. So certainly the results are very, very intentional. And we, you know, we sort of understand with everything going on. We have it where we have, you know, the cluster itself. It's good to see the results coming out. [0:40:18, 0:40:38]: out. But I certainly want to see the total composite picture, including Eagles Landing, including Dutchtown, because those are some very high-performing schools. Because when they hear the name Stockbridge, I certainly want to see them associate those fine institutions, especially with the higher learning at Eagles Landing in Dutchtown. [0:40:38, 0:40:58]: uh as well. So certainly I just want to make sure you're c you're doing a great job. I like those results. Let's just make sure that we're including and I think it gets very confusing because it gets confusing for voters in my area because they have McDonough addresses. But it literally seventy percent of my district has McDonough addresses. But they m [0:40:58, 0:41:18]: Make no mistake. Uh Eagles Landing High is a McDonough is a Stockbridge school because all of the students in my area go there and uh they they love that school. And trust me, the Golden Eagles were up here. Their band was playing at Walmart. Oh my goodness. Okay, later by talking about Jones. [0:41:18, 0:41:25]: But let's talk about those Eagle Landing. The high they were magnificent. So give them a shout out. Yes, sir. Thank you. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:41:26, 0:41:30]: Thank you, sir, for the presentation. Um and forgive me. [0:41:30, 0:41:45]: And um I'm happy to know that there are improvements that's gonna be made to um Stockbridge Middle School and Stockbridge High School's track or yes field areas. Um but I do have a question in regards to [0:41:45, 0:41:52]: recruiting efforts for bus drivers. Where are we with that? I hear a lot um from parents about [0:41:52, 0:41:54]: Delays or [0:41:54, 0:41:59]: I don't know if this is the forum for me to address that, but I figured I'd ask anyway. [0:42:03, 0:42:23]: Uh thank you for the question. And um one thing I'm pleased to tell you is that our current bus driver um fill rate is the highest that it has been uh since our pre-pandemic days. Um we've made incredible strides in um in closing the vacancy gap. Um our uh primary [0:42:23, 0:42:43]: uh strategy was the uh appointment of one position that is a recruitment and retention specialist who has been at every community event and um every possible uh fair far and wide, not just here in Henry County, but making sure our neighbors know that we're hiring too. [0:42:43, 0:43:03]: and has very successfully hired 32 bus drivers in this year alone. And um and we really have started a lot of celebration around our drivers, including a bus driver of the month uh per cluster. So look for a bus to have a big magnet on it, declaring a bus driver of the month, and a bus monitor of the month. [0:43:03, 0:43:06]: Um and uh some of those strides are coupled with [0:43:07, 0:43:27]: Um historic improvements in our compensation for our bus drivers and um and our bus monitors and we continue to uh survey the environment to make sure we remain the most competitive in the region for our bus driver pay. Um and and while I'm here, I'd like to i recruit you too to be a bus driver. Uh [0:43:26, 0:43:44]: Anyone here in the city of Stockbridge who has available window of time early in the morning and and late in the afternoon, we would love to have you on the team. I think we're making great strides. We're gonna really focus on retention in this next coming year. And um and we're thankful for our bus drivers. I hope you wave to everyone you pass. [0:43:44, 0:43:51]: Ms. Gang, go ahead please. Thank you. Um thank you, Dr. Robinsine. Thank you, um [0:43:52, 0:44:03]: Um Dr. Davis, I uh uh want to thank everyone here that's uh representing the Henry County Board of Education tonight. Um [0:44:03, 0:44:07]: But in the past we have always the city of Stockbridge and [0:44:07, 0:44:12]: I'm sure we're gonna do this again. I'll probably ask for it to be on the next agenda. But uh [0:44:13, 0:44:14]: Before um [0:44:15, 0:44:17]: You are Rob, Ms. uh Dr. Davis. [0:44:18, 0:44:38]: We really didn't have presentations like this with the Board of Education. So I want to thank you for that because it does matter. It's a part of becoming what we are working on as one Henry. And one of my questions um in regards to that is, well, a comment is is to make sure that we put on the agenda that we are partners. [0:44:38, 0:44:58]: The city of Stockbridge. I know we have businesses, and we can encourage those businesses to become partners in education throughout all of Stockbridge cluster to include Eagles Landing and my daughter. Daughters attend Dutchtown. And Dr. Robinson was the principal for Red Oak at the time they were there. But I um [0:44:58, 0:45:12]: with um hope that we would continue that and to push other cities to do so as well. So I know, I'm sure that we will pledge to become and will remain partners in education with you all. And um [0:45:13, 0:45:15]: My last question is [0:45:15, 0:45:15]: Um [0:45:16, 0:45:17]: Actually [0:45:17, 0:45:18]: Not necessarily really [0:45:19, 0:45:22]: More so a um and I've lost what I was gonna ask you. [0:45:23, 0:45:23]: But [0:45:24, 0:45:35]: In regards to and I've I've totally forgotten because I was talking about partners in education. Um when it comes to the uh [0:45:36, 0:45:49]: new STEM school, what exactly will be the requirements on and and whether I mean there are gonna be a lot of people trying to get there. So what how are the op what what will be the options for that? [0:45:50, 0:46:10]: So I think all of us are gonna want to go to the STEM school, first of all. So um you will have to be under the age of 18. That will be one of the requirements. But um really the uh the design of entrance in as a ninth grader is not been fully constructed or authorized by our board of education. We've assembled an advisory of community members, many [0:46:09, 0:46:29]: Stockbridge citizens are represented it, represented on that advisory that who even designed those three focus areas for the STEM school. But what I can tell you is we are not leaning towards a magnet program. A magnet is criteria-based and application required. We are leaning more toward a clear [0:46:29, 0:46:42]: Clear, accelerated course sequence for the high school experience that would accompany some indicators that you've done the right things in middle school that would position you to be successful. [0:46:42, 0:47:02]: So we're going to really be um nurturing that access to advanced coursework as early as that are elementary years, access to that STEM lab and STEM instruction in elementary school, access to computer science and/or engineering in middle school, and access to those high school credits for um eighth graders in the [0:47:02, 0:47:03]: Middle school. [0:47:04, 0:47:24]: Those are going to be some of the academic commitments that will be indicators of success for the advanced core sequence that will be designed for the high school. The details of all of that is really in the hands of an advisory and still does need to be constructed for board review and authorization, but that is the preliminary thinking on how the academics would be designed. [0:47:24, 0:47:36]: And so it would be open to any student in um in the Henry County community, but there would be some recommendations for how you have addressed your academic opportunities in middle school. [0:47:37, 0:47:52]: And I'm also happy to talk about Eagles Landing High School and Dutchtown High School. If I could just real quickly let you know that four Henry County schools have hit the ninety plus mark on graduation. That's a big deal. Eagles Landing High School and Dutchtown High School are two of those four. Awesome. There you go. [0:47:52, 0:48:12]: I could also go on. Oh, you have a time limit. Okay. I'll stop. But Eagles Landing High School has much to be proud of, including improvement on ACT and SAT, both participation and performance. Um, the only district in the or the only school in our district to have accomplished that improvement this past year. Outstanding. Outstanding. Excellent. See, that proves effective. [0:48:12, 0:48:20]: I did the right thing coming down this way, right? And check it out. All right. Anything else? Any other questions? Go ahead. Mr. Thomas, please. Thank you. [0:48:20, 0:48:26]: Thank you for the presentation. I believe I'm the only byproduct. [0:48:26, 0:48:36]: of Henry County School System. Uh Dr. Oliver knows this. I'm a graduate of historic Smith Barn Elementary School. [0:48:37, 0:48:41]: Let me say that again. Historic Smith Barnes are interesting. [0:48:42, 0:48:49]: Uh I I wanted to go back to the slide uh on the arts. I know um [0:48:49, 0:48:54]: The Henry County Board of Education has had some challenges [0:48:54, 0:48:56]: Uh in funding [0:48:57, 0:48:58]: uh the arts [0:48:58, 0:49:00]: In our school system. [0:49:00, 0:49:08]: And uh I'm an advocate for uh advancing arts uh here in our communities. And so [0:49:08, 0:49:16]: Listen out for me because I'm coming uh to the various schools to just to see what you're doing, uh, and to [0:49:16, 0:49:20]: Bring some of those, highlight some of those gifted students out. [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: And I will say for your information [0:49:23, 0:49:37]: Uh Thursday, March the twenty eighth, I will be honoring uh students from all of the clusters uh at an event uh at the Murr Manus Conference Center. Oh [0:49:38, 0:49:43]: gifted students. And some of you probably have this communication, but if not [0:49:43, 0:49:51]: My staff back there will be uh reaching out to many of you. But going back to the arts, um, I wanted to speak to [0:49:51, 0:49:59]: uh have you to speak to some of the challenges as far as um budgetary of of [0:49:59, 0:50:12]: pushing that out a little bit more because we all know that they're very gifted students. Very gifted students. I was a football player. I hate that I did not learn how to read music. [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: Uh play an instrument. [0:50:14, 0:50:17]: I think when we was at Smith Barn we had the [0:50:17, 0:50:25]: the flutophone kind of a deal and I did, you know, yeah. So but could you just speak to that briefly about the challenges and [0:50:26, 0:50:31]: Wha what's what's ahead for us uh in the arts and and even the budget constraints? [0:50:32, 0:50:52]: Yeah, so um actually seven years ago we didn't have an arts specials teacher allocated to every one of our schools in elementary school. Um so we have made tremendous strides in the allocation of resources for opening up access to the arts. So let me just start with the c course study. [0:50:52, 0:51:08]: component of it. There has been an intentional investment in band and orchestra equipment so that each of our middle schools and our high schools can have an operable band and orchestra program. [0:51:08, 0:51:22]: Um our middle schools are really where we're starting and um and they ha there's a five year window where each middle school is sort of doing all the pre-work in order to then roll it into a live program. [0:51:23, 0:51:43]: And um and so that has included converting a classroom into an orchestra space and um the financial investment of the instruments and all the equipment and supplies to go into that space and the allocation of a teacher for that course. So um three of our 11 elementary schools. [0:51:43, 0:52:00]: were allocated that last year. We already had five middle school, I'm sorry, middle schools, five middle schools that had an orchestra program. Three more were added this past year. And the remaining middle schools will be allocated those over the next two years that remains in our strategic plan. [0:52:00, 0:52:20]: based on their readiness. Once the middle school program is up and running, those same investments will be made for the high school. And um and the way that this has been accomplished is a strategic uh financial strategy deployed by the Board of Education to establish capital uh savings accounts so that we can [0:52:20, 0:52:40]: can actually designate general operating funds for a clear purpose of capital improvements that will span the life of growth and replacement. And so that has been our funding strategy in order to have a multi-year commitment to the growth of those arts. And so that [0:52:40, 0:52:57]: That's really the course. Um, you're we're then seeing theater programs popping up and that is can be club based or course based. You're seeing a little bit of variety in that. Cotton Indian just had a beautiful performance of Aladdin at the Fairview Performing Arts Center. I think people think they're at Broadway when they see Cotton Indian perform. [0:52:57, 0:53:06]: And um and so you're seeing the growth of theater in sort of a little bit more of a um uh unstructured way, not not defined. [0:53:06, 0:53:26]: But but but that will be um emerging on the scene for each of our schools and then you also see the choral programs being re-established. Um and that is in elementary, middle, and high. And so between the uh resources, sheet music, music stands, uh choral risers, um, and our instructor being allocated. [0:53:26, 0:53:46]: There is a rotating pattern until we get to all 52 schools. Then the last part of it is the extracurricular part of it. Marching band comes to mind for most. And I am pleased to say that the 30-year-old Eagles Landing High School marching band uniforms have been retired, and this year they marched. [0:53:46, 0:53:56]: in beautiful new uniforms along with McDonough and this coming year you said it'd be Stockbridge High School and um and there are two other schools, I'm sorry I don't have that on my head. [0:53:57, 0:54:17]: Yes, so um we'll we have a a three year window now that we will replace all ten high school marching band uniforms and then every ten years we will repeat that. And the board has established a strategic savings account, it's called a capital accumulation fund for the purpose of um of of that forward thinking. Last thing, a lot of people actually like to come and use our buildings for the [0:54:17, 0:54:22]: Whether that is a rental from an outside community member or um [0:54:22, 0:54:42]: Program uh production coming to use the performing arts center, or um movie sets that come and and rent our facilities, like right across the way. All of the funds received by any of those external rentals is now directly allocated to growth in the arts in Henry County schools. So we call it arts for the arts. [0:54:42, 0:54:47]: Starts and that's our kin uh uh signature uh sustainable plan. [0:54:47, 0:55:07]: Good, very good. Thank you for that. And that's how arts are growing in Henry County Schools. Thank you for that, big fantastic. And I wish I could sing or play or do anything in the arts, but I can't. But other kids will. I will be reaching out here to get some of that. But what last question? Uh, do you find uh students that participate in the arts uh or excel in [0:55:07, 0:55:20]: in uh academically uh in coursework. And I've read that, studied that, and this is what I find in my findings, but would you just speak to that, you know, if if you can. [0:55:21, 0:55:28]: Students that are in the arts, they seem to excel more uh academically, especially in math. [0:55:29, 0:55:49]: Well, um I I believe that to be true. I don't have it on the research right in front of me, but I think it gives exposure and makes kids more um well-rounded. But you know, there's some brain activity that goes on with math and the coordination of it. So I do attest. I believe that is true. So we do, you know, encourage our students to be exposed to or get involved in extracurricular activities, whichever one whichever one they desire. [0:55:49, 0:55:51]: But I think there is a strong correlation, yes. [0:55:52, 0:56:12]: Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Davis. Yeah, go right ahead, Mr. Allison. Yes, thank you. I appreciate it. I'm thinking uh I'm glad that the uh bus drivers came up. It was just so interesting that I was out there on Jodeco Road during the campaign and I kept seeing female drivers, bus drivers. And I was I just started to remark at how many ladies were out there. [0:56:12, 0:56:17]: out there doing a great job. And what we wanted to do is we have the Women's History Month program. [0:56:17, 0:56:30]: Coming up March the third, uh we wanted to invite all the female bus drivers to the event so that they could be honored uh for the work that they do. So we will be in contact with you all about doing that. [0:56:30, 0:56:31]: All right, thank you. Thank you all. [0:56:31, 0:56:37]: Peter, any other questions from the council? I have one last question. Go right in please. It's one last question. [0:56:37, 0:56:57]: Well, how do you prepare for the population that's coming? Because we get a lot of when we have public meetings and public hearings, most of the constituents here come in and they start saying we're not considering the schools and they're busting out of the seams, right? And I've I've been there. I've seen red oak grow. [0:56:57, 0:57:11]: Where it'll be twenty seven or thirty kids may uh close to thirty kids in a kindergarten. So what are you guys doing to prepare for that? So because by law, we can't say we can't have d allow this [0:57:11, 0:57:13]: subdivision to pop up. [0:57:13, 0:57:33]: Because of the school system. So what are you got? Are you guys monitoring the growth or predicting it? How how are you doing that? Sure. Um Josh is here, so he might as well come up and join me. I'll get us started, but um this is certainly a prominent uh part of our work. Um we're proud to serve the young people in Henry County, and we believe that schools should foster. [0:57:33, 0:57:53]: The growth that cities and the county desire. I'll start by saying that our current um our current overall district capacity is at 76%. That was discerned through an external evaluation that was done prior to the last ESBLOS, so prior to 2020. And it really informed our current ESBLOS program. [0:57:53, 0:58:13]: program which currently has 11 additions and three new schools, including the one across the street. And um and that entire facility program will uh accommodate five thousand new instructional seats for our community. But we know that that is that is not the end of our work. And so we are all [0:58:13, 0:58:24]: already in progress for how we start looking at our next five year planning. Um and I might as well turn it over to Josh to clean up what I just said and then add to like our next uh future phase planning. [0:58:24, 0:58:25]: Yeah, so I'll just [0:58:26, 0:58:46]: Good good evening, Mayor, the council. Just real quickly let you guys know we study our enrollment every year. So we go through that exercise at the uh end of the fiscal year and then we do projections based on what the next school year will be. Uh and it's based on a lot of factors that we do that. We also before we get into a new SPLOSS program, we have an [0:58:46, 0:59:06]: Exterior group come in and do a large study for the entire county and all the cities on what the growth that they see coming in and does it match what we see coming in. And so we did that with the last SLOST uh and it identified schools that were either all we already knew were over capacity or would come over capacity. [0:59:06, 0:59:26]: In the next spLOS cycle. So that identified that we needed to build two new elementary schools, a new high school, and then additions at six of our uh existing schools. With that, we currently have 69 trailers in the county, which is a pretty small number if you look around Metro Atlanta right now of the county of uh trailers in county. [0:59:25, 0:59:26]: Yeah. [0:59:27, 0:59:47]: With this splots program that we're currently in, we will eliminate all 69 of those trailers. It doesn't mean new trailers won't come in. We do have hot spots in the county. Dr. Davis mentioned that the study identified that we are only at 76% capacity of our school system right now. However, we have hot spots and we know that. So we know different parts of the world. [0:59:47, 1:00:07]: Parts of the county are growing faster than others. So that study helped us identify where to put the addition. We just put the addition on Dutchtown High School. We've got an addition coming to Dutchtown Middle School. We've got additions coming out at Ola as well. So that's how we get through that. But we do study our enrollment every year and we do projections every year, not just for [1:00:07, 1:00:26]: teacher allotments but also for us as we move into the new cycle of our SPLOS program. So we'll go through the exact same study next time. We will we will study where we are, we will study the five and ten year pattern and then we will we always build our SPLOS because we're in such a fast growing county. Our [1:00:27, 1:00:47]: Focus in the beginning of every SPLOSS program is growth projects. It has to be. That's where we build our schools. So that's what we will start again. We will actually start that process this year. And we've also got a department set up now that's planning asset accountability. So they have been intentional about reaching out to the county more and reaching out to [1:00:46, 1:01:06]: the cities more as you guys be get approached with your zoning and your neighborhoods that are coming in. We want to have those in the front so that we can put it in our software and we can build for that. But and I know you guys get a lot of questions about that when in during those meetings about you know what are we going to do about roads, what are we going to do about schools. So and we understand that you [1:01:06, 1:01:26]: You can't deny that it's our responsibility to provide for that growth in the um in the county as as it comes in. But I will say we're very happy where we are with the schools and our capacity, but we know if we don't continue that study every day, we will get behind. In the early 2000s, we had over [1:01:26, 1:01:46]: over eight hundred trailers in the county. We were we had a a an additional school outside of Luella High School alone, over sixty trailers. So we are not in that situation right now. But if we don't stay on top of it, we'll get there again because we know we're not anywhere close to being done with the growth of Henry County. So I don't know if that answered your question. I feel like I rambled a little bit, but [1:01:46, 1:02:01]: But we are very intentional about the growth of the county and uh and uh we we spend a lot of time on both the projections and on how we're going to build out in our next splots to accommodate for the students that we know are coming in the system. [1:02:01, 1:02:21]: Thanks. That was not a great place to do it. See, this is why this is so important. The facts. See, there's a lot of misinformation that's out there, and I just want to focus on the numbers, which is at right now the school system is at seventy six percent capacity, which means there's twenty-four percent uh available. [1:02:21, 1:02:41]: There are hot spots. But as you said, you just added on uh to Dutchtown High School, one of the hot spots, and Dutchtown Middle School, another hot spot. So certainly there is a growth plan that is well funded that the school board is intentional and serious about uh anticipating this growth. And I and I love what you just [1:02:41, 1:03:01]: Just said, which is that you're at 76% now, but you're not resting on your laurels. You got 5,000 additional classroom seats that are coming that will be available. I drive by Birch Elementary, the new school on Willow Lane, every week going to the food bank. And then I see the course we know the STEM school is coming. [1:03:01, 1:03:21]: Coming and other schools are coming as well. But it's very important that everybody tuning in that the facts are out there. There are areas that are feature or that have overcrowding, but we're at 76% out of 100% in terms of the capacity. So there is some growth areas that are popular. [1:03:21, 1:03:35]: possible and five thousand additional capacity is on the way. So you you have done your numbers, you've done the studies, and I appreciate you coming to present the facts on where we are with the school system. So thank you. [1:03:35, 1:03:55]: Good deal. I just have one clarifying question on that. You said that there were three new schools and I know one is to stand. What were the other two schools? Uh Birch Creek Elementary School that opens this August, and then there will be a Wolf Creek Elementary School in the Locust Grove area that we start design on next March. Okay. And then you also said there were eleven facilities. [1:03:55, 1:03:56]: Yeah, yeah. [1:03:56, 1:04:06]: Six. So we've got additions well we finish the one for Dutchtown High, we've got Dutchtown Middle, and then we've got Ola High, Ola Middle, Union Grove Middle. [1:04:08, 1:04:28]: And something something there's some high school. Yes. So so just to clarify and to add to what uh councilman uh Alexander has already stated, there there's already plans in the work and this is gonna be an ongoing process for the school board continually. This doesn't just stop here. This is I I don't see in our lifetime us stopping. [1:04:28, 1:04:42]: stopping the growth planning for the school, for the county for schools. So yes, SPA six, SPA seven will be a it's always starts with the growth projects. Uh that will not change for us as we move as we move forward. [1:04:42, 1:04:55]: And and and let me say this too. We do have Union Grove students in my district on Brandon Road. So certainly we have a little bit of everything. So it's good to hear uh Union Grove is uh some additions coming there too. So thank you. [1:04:56, 1:04:59]: I believe that's all the questions for the council. [1:04:59, 1:05:02]: Thank you very much for the briefing. We appreciate it. Thank you. [1:05:02, 1:05:03]: Of stage. [1:05:04, 1:05:13]: Outstanding. Henry County Schools. Uh fantastic. All right, economic d uh development strategy plan, draft presentation. Mr. Kimmelantz, please. [1:05:25, 1:05:25]: So [1:05:50, 1:05:52]: Came is on you, sir. Whenever you're ready to start. [1:05:53, 1:06:13]: All right, um good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh Kim Mawan's Economic Development Director. Um this evening I'm very pleased to uh present to you all the early findings of our economic development strategic planning efforts. As you all know, uh the City of Stockbridge strategic plan calls on our department to collaborate with our ED [1:06:13, 1:06:33]: Partners to draft a unified economic development vision for the city. And we've been doing that over the last six months or so, working with the uh advisors at KB, Advisory Group, and Urban Pulse. So we're very happy to present to you all um the early findings and all of our changes. [1:06:33, 1:06:53]: Goals for the ED strategic plan, which will be the first strategic plan for economic development in the city of Stockbridge. After tonight's presentation, you'll be receiving the full draft plan from me sometime on Thursday for your review, comments, and questions. So within a week or so or two. [1:06:53, 1:07:12]: you can follow uh up with the questions or any uh issues that you may have um along uh with the plan. So we're again very excited and at this time I'd like to invite uh Mr. Koskey with uh Urban uh with KB advisory group uh for the presentation. Sure, absolutely come on sir. Appreciate it. [1:07:22, 1:07:42]: Thank you, Mr. Allance. Uh Mayor and Council, it's a pleasure to be with you again. Thank you. Great to see you. Happy New Year. That was a great um presentation from the schools. We're excited about it. And and honestly, I was just mentioning before I got up here that you know these things are related. Economic development equals growth in the city, and the fact that you have [1:07:42, 1:08:02]: Have competent folks here at the city and at schools to be able to handle the growth, I think is is is is uh encouraging, right? And and and we've seen it again over the past six months as we've been working in the community. We've heard it over and over again. We, you know, we do things like SWOT analysis. What are the strengths of the community? And certainly the schools are are [1:08:02, 1:08:10]: Are are part of the strengths of the community and the reason that Henry part of the reason that Henry County is growing, as well as you know, the things that you all are up to. And so [1:08:10, 1:08:14]: Um it's been a real pleasure to get to know you all. [1:08:14, 1:08:23]: um and and the community and all the strengths that that the c community does have. And so again, um we'll try not to take up too much of your time. Um [1:08:24, 1:08:40]: But we do want to get into some of the details that that you'll see in the overall draft plan. I'm gonna hand it off to the people who've been doing the the hardest work in and with you all and with the community, um my team and and the urban pulse team as well. Um but again, just to kind of review. [1:08:40, 1:08:57]: the reason that um that this plan is in the works and and is really kind of starting to come to a conclusion, right? That the idea is is that we really wanted to help the economic development staff kind of establish the mission, the goals, the vision, all the things that a strategic plan should do. [1:08:57, 1:09:17]: And then get out and gather feedback about what do we we want to hear from you all, from stakeholders, from the public, from the business owners, of course. Again, remember this is an economic development strategic plan. So really, when we think about stakeholders, we think about the business community as well as the community at large. [1:09:17, 1:09:37]: So we we got to know a lot of business owners, got to know Warren at at Frozen Smoke, and he fed us one night, which was amazing. Um got to know uh Miss Linda at CNL on Main Street. Um what a force of nature she is. And so it's just been a real pleasure to get to know um, get to know you all and get to know the business. [1:09:37, 1:09:57]: Community and the people who are driving the economy in Stockbridge. And so, um, what in the midst of this, you know, you all opened a Costco as well. Obviously, that was huge to the local economy. I wish we could say that we could take credit for that as part of our economic development strategic plan. We won't try to, but obviously, the economy is growing and it's strong. [1:09:57, 1:10:17]: And so we heard a lot about that as we were gathering the feedback. And then again, we wanted to kind of our the idea was is once we got the feedback, and then really, you know, put together a plan that really kind of strategically shapes you know where you're headed as a city from a in and a as a local economy. And that's the thing about being local, right? This plan. [1:10:17, 1:10:37]: Is, you know, you think about economic development, a lot of that happens at the state level, right? And even federal level impacts what happens with the economy. State drives economic development. So cities, you know, the size of Stockbridge, and we work with cities all over Georgia in this regard, you know, there there's things you can do and there's things that are out of your control. [1:10:37, 1:10:57]: And so that's part of what we wanted to do is sort of be strategic, right? As the name implies. You know, what can you all do to really kind of help your local economy? What's within your control? And so that's what we've tried to focus on in this plan. Again, recognizing what you have, what levers you have to pull strategically. [1:10:57, 1:11:03]: strategically and then again the last piece here is about implementation. So it's not just about what levers do you have, but how do you use them. [1:11:04, 1:11:06]: Right. And so that's really what we've been up to. [1:11:06, 1:11:09]: And again, um I'm gonna hand it off here in a minute to Tate. [1:11:09, 1:11:15]: and Gabby who are gonna really talk about the the um some of the details in the plan. We won't get into the entire plan. [1:11:16, 1:11:16]: Um [1:11:16, 1:11:17]: As Kim said [1:11:18, 1:11:21]: Um you've got it, you'll have it, and we hope that you'll give it a close look. [1:11:22, 1:11:31]: And we hope to address any anything you have. But we want it just for you and for the public, just to kind of get a sense of before before, you know, it comes before you to um to approve and to adopt. [1:11:32, 1:11:52]: We want folks to just kind of get it get get to know it a little bit, get to know what's in there. Um and so again, um Urban Pulse, um Mr. Pike, who is here, who leads Urban Pulse, um, has been an integral part of this team. Um, he's been a local economic development um professional for many years, and he really he and his team led the public. [1:11:52, 1:11:58]: engagement piece again helping us you know get out into the community helping us understand [1:11:58, 1:12:18]: Viewpoints because there's a lot of opposing opposing and um and and uh well just a lot of viewpoints in the community as you all know and so we wanted to make sure we heard as many of those as we could. So to that end, this just gives you an idea of of some of the public engagement that we did. We had we had meetings, we had general meetings, we had business communities. [1:12:18, 1:12:38]: community meetings. We talked to mit many, if not most of you, the the economic development staff, Kim and his staff are hard at work across the tracks every day. And we we sort of felt like we got to know them intimately through this process and and had a lot of meetings with them as well. So I think at this point [1:12:38, 1:12:57]: Gabby's gonna come and again we're just gonna hit some of the highlights. Again, I think it's you know gonna be a hundred-page document. So, you know, there's a there's a lot to dig through. Um, but we just want to give you some kind of general highlights and and really the key that we want you to get to once you once we see once you see sort of some of the highlights is the goals. [1:12:58, 1:13:15]: Tonight's presentation really culminates with the goals. The there's five goals, five strategy goals um that are gonna really kind of drive um the the economic development strategy for at least the next five years. But again, thank you for the opportunity to serve. Thank you. Ladies, go right ahead, please. [1:13:16, 1:13:23]: Thank you, thank you. Thank you so much, Mayor and Council. Yes. So uh my name is Gabby Oliverio. It's been a pleasure working on this project and getting to know Stockbridge a lot more. [1:13:24, 1:13:41]: As Chef mentioned, we're just gonna kinda go through some of the highlights of things that we've done so we can get to the goals. And then later on, um, when you get the full draft, you'll see kind of the implementation and the strategies that we have going forward. So kind of the first thing that we did was kind of look at your demographics and the economic baseline from the beginning just to get a idea of what's going on. [1:13:42, 1:13:45]: And to kind of ground truth out with the surveys and so [1:13:45, 1:13:58]: Um s the big things that point out to us of course we've heard is you know Atlanta is a growing region, Henry County, a growing county, still going to stay in Stockbridge is also continuing to grow, just points to the fact that it's a very attractive community that people want to be a part of. [1:13:58, 1:14:01]: And another big growing factor of it for um [1:14:02, 1:14:12]: Residents, but also for businesses, is the fact that um the residents that are here, over a third of them that over the age of twenty-five have at least a bachelor's or advanced degree. Very big draw. [1:14:13, 1:14:18]: for um business and things of the like. And then when we kind of break things down to [1:14:19, 1:14:21]: Workers in your jobs. [1:14:21, 1:14:22]: Um [1:14:22, 1:14:33]: So of your local workforce, that is of your working residents within the city, I guess to no surprise given your location and of your assets nearby, you have healthcare and logistics are kind of the main ones that people are employed in. [1:14:34, 1:14:46]: Um and also thinking of the jobs that are within Stockbridge itself. Again, you have because of the hospital being right here, you have healthcare, but you also have accommodations and you have retail, right? You have all those different things kind of playing together. [1:14:46, 1:14:52]: And then of those working residents who do have to leave the city to go to um to their jobs. [1:14:53, 1:14:57]: Given your proximity to Atlanta is of no surprise that you have other office utilizing industries that they are employed in. [1:14:58, 1:15:00]: And because of that, um, Fulton County kind of [1:15:01, 1:15:09]: Draws on those residents who are leaving, but then those who are commuting into your city to work or from um other places in Henry County or from nearby Clayton County. [1:15:13, 1:15:32]: And this is just kind of a quick snapshot of um your commercial real estate inventory. Um in the full report at the end, you'll have a kind of more in-depth look at some of this. Um this is kind of what your development pattern looked like before the the Jotaco development came online. And as you can see before up until this point, um [1:15:33, 1:15:46]: Most of your retail, for example, has was kind of added in the nineteen nineties and the two thousands, right? So it's a little bit older compared to now, but you guys are starting to kind of like add more things online, which is really great for residents and for businesses in that regard. [1:15:48, 1:16:08]: Now pass off to Tate who can talk to some of our public engagement results. Sure, thanks. Hi, Mayor Council Tate Davis of KB Advisor Group. Good to see you all. Just quickly to recap some of the just not only the community survey, but we also ran a business survey. And a lot of the sentiments coming out of that is just how attractive Stockbridge is as a community. [1:16:08, 1:16:12]: to live. [1:16:13, 1:16:33]: Is thinking about, you know, about a fifth are not working and living within Stockbridge. And so thinking about the the balance of that there and what are the community goals, I think one of the challenges that are kind of an overarching challenge is the diversity of retail and restaurants beyond some of the chain restaurants. I think that was a very clear. [1:16:33, 1:16:53]: Community sentiment and wanting more diversity. And I'm gonna bury my lead here, but it really is about downtown being the heart of the city and attracting and supporting and nurturing those smaller businesses. When you look then from the business survey point of view, so this is specifically targeting those who might be small entrepreneurs or they've got [1:16:53, 1:17:13]: Got a mid-sized company within Stockbridge. A lot of the resources that they're looking for are those business support resources that are really there to foster the entrepreneurial spirit. And then the lack of market demand or client base did come up, and I think that there's some implementation in the attraction of growing one the [1:17:13, 1:17:33]: Medical hub that exists here to kind of open up some of those markets to be more attractive, to do business here in Stockbridge. But a lot of a lot of great things going for Stockbridge being really the gateway of Henry County. That's really celebrated the proximity to Atlanta, the proximity to the region, and that access that it gives you is uh [1:17:33, 1:17:36]: a a driving factor of of those who are wanting to locate here. [1:17:41, 1:17:51]: We're gonna flip flop a little bit so you don't have to listen to either of us for too, too long. Um but Gabby's gonna go ahead and and talk you through the target industries and how we how we arrove arrived at those. [1:17:52, 1:18:07]: Yeah, so as you see later later on um right here we have about three target industries that we are recommending for the plan. And what how these work is that these it's supposed to be over I uh the next five years, right? It's the kind of the vision point for this plan. And in that we kind of [1:18:07, 1:18:11]: Use some of our data based off of conversations we've also had. [1:18:11, 1:18:21]: um with um the community and businesses is what are general energies that should be the priorities for the economic development department over these next five years. They are not [1:18:21, 1:18:27]: supposed to be the only things that the city goes after. That's a very important thing I do want to make clear. But they're kind of based off of trends and [1:18:28, 1:18:30]: What uh the momentum that you have going on, like where would [1:18:31, 1:18:44]: the ones that would probably be maybe like low-hanging fruit or be able to bring to fruition um earlier than others. And there are as you develop later EDSPs, we do recommend that those can change and always be re-revisited going forward. [1:18:46, 1:18:49]: So the kind of the first step in determining what those might be. [1:18:49, 1:18:51]: And we took all the major industries [1:18:51, 1:18:56]: And we kind of um potted them based on their employment growth. [1:18:56, 1:19:11]: um more recently as well as their relative concentration in Stockbridge compared to the Atlanta region. So for example, healthcare, the giant bubble that you see up there, they're all sized best off of the current employment within the city. So based off of that you see that it does have [1:19:11, 1:19:20]: It's been growing, but it also is very h highly concentrated within Stockbridge compared to the entire region, which makes sense given the hospital. Not only that, but you have a whole [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: Ecosystem surrounding around around by it. [1:19:23, 1:19:25]: Um and so [1:19:25, 1:19:45]: The ones in your top right quadrant are going to be the ones that are concentrated and they're growing. The ones that are already doing very well have a lot of momentum. The ones in the bottom right quadrant, for example, logistics, professional services, manufacturing, those are ones that have been growing a lot within the city more recently. They haven't yet shown that they have highly concentrated. [1:19:45, 1:19:46]: Concentrated here in the city. [1:19:46, 1:19:53]: compared to the region, but these are ones that are good ones to see because they serve as emerging industries um for the city to go after. [1:19:54, 1:20:08]: and look at. And so based off of kind of that assessment and what we have heard, we have determined um recommended that the target industries for the next five years with this plan are healthcare, your professional business services, and adaptive supply chain. [1:20:10, 1:20:13]: And so what we have right here is kind of an example of [1:20:14, 1:20:24]: what kind of falls under all of those. Um healthcare probably doesn't need as much um explanation, right? You have dentist offices, you have lab works, you have outpatients. [1:20:24, 1:20:44]: Care centers, things of that nature. For professional business services, you know, you have advertising firms, architectural engineering firms kind of captures known as office utilizing industries that you have current residents leaving to go to work in. You have digital and systems design, and so that kind of encompasses interior design, graphic design, your computer-based type service industries right there. [1:20:44, 1:20:55]: any of your personal services, which could be personal care, civic services, a lot of those things that lend themselves to smaller businesses and also helps kind of support the local resident base. [1:20:55, 1:21:01]: And with adaptive supply chain, or of course with the pandemic we all have heard about the supply chain woes that have happened and all how [1:21:02, 1:21:08]: Once a little piece of that gets kind of held up, the whole thing almost shuts down, right? And so given the proximity to the airport and kind of the [1:21:09, 1:21:29]: The workforce at that lens too, right? Thinking about supply chain of not only just, you know, logistic support and back office, but you could do supply chain automation and robotics. Um, a lot of warehouses, especially your big ones like Walmart, for example, will have robots that once you unload the truck, you put it on a robot, it zoomed across the warehouse to another um [1:21:29, 1:21:43]: location that has all the things stored up, it puts that to another robot and it kind of stores and put it that way just to save us time. You have sensing, so this could be motion sensors, uh GPS sensors, things of that nature. That as technology in the logistics industry improves. [1:21:44, 1:21:47]: All those things are gonna be factored in more. Why not have those be [1:21:48, 1:21:50]: produce but because this is here now really close to the airport. [1:21:51, 1:21:57]: Um and then you have three D printing, um, also known as like additive manufacturing. This could be your advanced manufacturing kinds of pieces to help. [1:21:58, 1:21:59]: Um [1:21:59, 1:22:03]: a business that can help prototype pieces so that you don't have to [1:22:03, 1:22:07]: buy three or four of them to make something you can just three D print what you need right there. [1:22:08, 1:22:28]: And so those are kind of things that we are thinking of. And in the report, all of these things are explained a little bit more in more detail. So definitely if you have more questions about them, we can definitely answer them after that review. And so after those industries are determined, we kind of set set up for the goal settlement. Hey, go over. Thank you. Um and so as Gabby said. [1:22:28, 1:22:48]: The target industries are really to inform economic development staff and those stakeholders on what direction to strategically go. But when we take a step back now and look at our goals, we're thinking about in the next five years: what are the priorities beyond the attraction of a certain business in a certain industry? What really sticks out to us here in [1:22:48, 1:22:52]: [4973.2, 4993.2]: Taken place. And so we wanted to make sure that this plan was a culmination of that and a succinctness of those plans and not go into another direction. So I just wanna to say uh throughout this process, we've we've looked at all the past plans, looked at both those who are more conceptual and strategic, as well as, you know, the this isn't the pretty drawings plan or the [1:23:13, 1:23:33]: or the vision of of what the built environment will look like, but this will guide the economic development department into supporting what that next iteration of Stockbridge will look like. And so really the main priority is is revitalizing and activating downtown Stockbridge. A lot of that is already ongoing. [1:23:33, 1:23:38]: I think it deserves a place at the at the top of the list here as it needs to continue. [1:23:39, 1:23:59]: continue to to become what it could be and you've done a lot of work um adding the amphitheater but there's an there's a greater activation that needs to happen for both a balance of the daytime and the nighttime residents that are necessary to support a a a prosper a pros prosperable excuse me viable viable downtown. [1:23:59, 1:24:19]: I'll choose another word. Um, second, you have excuse me. Can I interrupt you for a second? I stated this earlier with the Henry Kennedy Schoozo here in reference to STEM. We now have a quiet zone, and that is very key to our redevelopment downtown area. We're gonna take off, really take off now. I I perceive that, and I know the council was probably on board and all this, we're just gonna take on all. [1:24:19, 1:24:39]: And five years, you're absolutely right. You won't even probably notice what the downtown looks like. It's gonna be totally different. Totally different. I agree. I can't wait to see it. Um, that was something coming in too. I mean, looking at the RSVP plan, and and that one was very prescriptive on uh what the vision would look like, but you did achieve already a lot of the key themes that were with. [1:24:38, 1:24:58]: Within that plan. And so this really picks up from where that where that current is today. Thank you. And I think it's I think the quiet zone is gonna is gonna change things too, especially in in activating the downtown year round and and um daytime, nighttime. Uh so the second priority. [1:24:58, 1:25:05]: Priority here is you're thinking about our hubs and our nodes within Stockbridge. And so the first one being that downtown that's gonna reverberate. [1:25:06, 1:25:22]: But the the expansion and support support of the of the medical hub is um really our next priority in thinking about the next five years. Uh the concentration is here, it has the opportunity to grow and should be a priority in thinking about um [1:25:22, 1:25:34]: uh supporting the entire ecosystem of what that could bring and what it represents to to Henry County and really this the south the southern region of of the metro. It goes beyond the county. Um [1:25:35, 1:25:55]: So finally, thinking about those two as the nodes, our third goal is really in retaining and supporting those small and local businesses in Stockbridge. So once we've kind of established the support of our nodes, that's that third priority is on those business owners and making sure that the services offered and the incentives that are offered are matching to those. [1:25:55, 1:26:15]: Those folks, right? Jeff said earlier: a lot of economic development that goes on at the state is really big and it's going after those big whales. But there's an opportunity for Stockbridge to come in and support those smaller businesses that are already here, as well as attract those who will who will want to come to that downtown because it's gonna be so incredibly awesome for them to break into this. [1:26:15, 1:26:17]: market right and um [1:26:17, 1:26:37]: That comes along with needing a workforce. And so this is a this is a crucial one. And it's great that the the schools were here to speak on the STEM school because one of our biggest recommendations is really leveraging that, especially with bioengineering and medical that were identified in STEM. There's a connection between [1:26:37, 1:26:40]: [5200.4, 5220.4]: Coming out of high school, even that there are CNAs that are that are available to work within the hospital and support that industry. So that's a clear connection that we wanted to make. And really woven throughout this is improving connectivity and quality of life. You've got some in the in the works, um, but as downtown develops, the trail system making sure that that is that is a key. [1:27:00, 1:27:20]: That is visually a key and then connects throughout the city. I know there are ongoing efforts for that, but again, wanted to reiterate in a strategic plan that that should be continued to be supported. My next slide is very text-heavy on some of the things that I already went over. But again, when you get into [1:27:20, 1:27:21]: The [1:27:21, 1:27:36]: The implementation plan and and those specific goals that you'll see in the in the full draft, uh, that'll tell you the get the guidebook. That's essentially the the playbook that that'll lead economic development in Stockbridge for the next five years. [1:27:38, 1:27:45]: Um and kind and finally I just wanted to to end on on this idea of of implementing [1:27:45, 1:28:05]: All of this within the idea of the economics of place, where a lot of the times we measure economic prosperity, I got the word there, on certain outputs, right? Whether it's number of jobs, whether it's total payroll. And I think within Stockbridge, the mindset, there are there are so many benefits outside of that, the quality of life. [1:28:05, 1:28:25]: The attraction within the region. I think having a downtown within Stockbridge is what it needs to stay competitive. And we've seen it across the region and what downtowns that are revitalized can really do for the entire city. And I think that that is, you know, Stockbridge is right on the precipice of that. But it's important to understand. [1:28:25, 1:28:45]: understand that the economics of place take take long-term focused activation and it's got it's gotta be a a a group project. You have a ton of of really engaged stakeholders and partners within the city and part of this plan was to organize them in the right way so that everybody is is used in the not used. Everybody is employed and and [1:28:45, 1:28:46]: Um [1:28:46, 1:28:57]: and has the autonomy to to do the job of it is that they are in that piece of the puzzle. And so I really what just wanted to highlight, um it's a bit it's a bit of a [1:28:57, 1:28:58]: Um [1:29:00, 1:29:08]: A theory of the im the economics of place, right? That you create that downtown, that's your heartbeat, that reverberates, then you support. [1:29:08, 1:29:19]: um all of those industries by both those who own them and those who work at them. And so the culmination of all of that is is really focused on quality of life. So um [1:29:19, 1:29:27]: That's my last spiel. I got a little into the economics of place there. Um as uh Kim said earlier, Mr. Launch said earlier. [1:29:27, 1:29:43]: We will be sh he will be sharing the the full draft with you all and then February ninth is that that key date to get those comments back to us and we'd love to hear your reactions uh to what we've come up with here and and hope to find that you support it and and want to adopt it when we see you again. [1:29:43, 1:29:50]: Thank you, I appreciate the presentation. But I'm gonna have to ask you something. Maybe I missed it and I gotta reach way back to catch this, okay? Okay. [1:29:50, 1:30:07]: You talk about it was mentioned about Costco, which is Bridges of Johtoco. So where on the and the five strategic uh goals here, where does the bridges of Johtoco stand on that? Maybe I missed it, maybe I'm not catching it. Where does that stand? It's the most southern part, it's a mixed youth development, most southern part of a stock bridge. [1:30:07, 1:30:24]: What which one of those five does it fit into? Yeah. I mean I think the the part of this is that uh in order to get a diversity of retail and growth, you've gotta add add housing. And I think that's one thing that's that's been accomplished there in a really attractive way. Um I wouldn't say necessarily that [1:30:24, 1:30:30]: That going after a Costco is a is a target industry that's going to come up in a strategic plan. [1:30:30, 1:30:45]: It's alright's already there. But but I I guess I'm maybe I'm missing it. Okay, that's why I'm asking the question. Where does Joe's goals exactly in Alexander's district? And it was just mentioned about Costco and that's a misuse development. I just was kind of wondering [1:30:46, 1:31:06]: And maybe I missed it. Then where the where in those strategic plans, those five, which one kind of covers the Jodeco area? And and and I just I mean, I just need help. Okay. I uh oh. I mean I I would propose that it really is sort of the medical hub um idea in that in and that's that word hub. [1:31:06, 1:31:12]: can be used in a lot of ways. And our proposition here is that that hospital [1:31:13, 1:31:19]: You know, it hasn't been in the city for a long time, right? It kinda got annexed in. One year. One year. [1:31:19, 1:31:39]: And we want to f you all to focus, I think, or the city to focus on that what a what a golden goose that is. And it's not just about the hospital itself, but it's about what's around the hospital and how and how that entire area can function and that to that to have a lot of mix of uses in that part of town is good. [1:31:39, 1:31:44]: [5504.2, 5521.8]: the the me and the medical facilities that are nearby. And so to have an environment that is active and vibrant and where people work and live and play, as the saying goes, that it that that can support that medical hub area, right? And so I'm I'm expanding beyond the hospital [1:32:02, 1:32:06]: you know, property lines and I'm including that as part of it to say [1:32:07, 1:32:27]: development in that part of town is essential to making the idea of a medical hub thrive. And so I I would say that, you know, getting additional retail, high, you know, uh desirable retail, having, you know, the most advanced Chick-fil-A in the state and those sorts of things, you know, point [1:32:27, 1:32:45]: to that area as a hub, as an innovation hub, um you know where where new growth is going to happen. And again, it's it's it's relate it's you know Costco doesn't make you think about the medical facility and they're not you know necessarily like you know cheek to jowl but but just that idea of a hub. [1:32:46, 1:32:53]: sustaining itself as kind of a micro economy is where I would propose that it really comes in. [1:32:53, 1:32:56]: So be it. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Thank you. [1:32:56, 1:33:13]: Good evening again. Um definitely want to thank you all and and Mr. Uh Alaunch for the collaboration. I do recall uh when you all met with the uh Main Street Advisory Board. I also believe that downtown is is the heartbeat. [1:33:14, 1:33:19]: of any city and I think I asked this question at that time, um, about [1:33:20, 1:33:40]: the SWOT analysis, because I think you had met with different groups, community groups and other city uh entities. Um I'm just curious as to the challenges that were identified in downtown. I I mean, you know, I know heartbeat and you got your arteries. [1:33:39, 1:33:41]: I feel pretty comfortable that [1:33:42, 1:33:55]: And that you know, I know they say, Well, if the heart died, then the arteries die as well. But I think in this case, I think those outlining communities, I think they saw they're gonna be okay. But I'm a little concerned about [1:33:55, 1:33:57]: Downtown development. [1:33:58, 1:34:14]: And I know we have some some challenges just you know, geography wise. So I just want you sort of to speak to some of that since you all came in and I remember, you know, when you all came and met with the the uh Main Street Advisory Board and we sort of talked about some of those things. [1:34:14, 1:34:34]: Hey, it it's nothing that we can do about the railroad, there's nothing we can do about the bridge, but uh how do we craft a plan, if you will, to to go forward to do the best that we can do in downtown? And I know Mr. Lance is sort of working on that area, and I know he understands and realizes that too, but [1:34:34, 1:34:54]: Sometime we have to sort of just discuss it to you know, just to see what we can do to maximize you know, what what downtown give us. Absolutely. I mean I my big my big message to you on downtown would be go big. Think big, dream big, and think beyond what you think of as just downtown right now. [1:34:54, 1:35:14]: You know, Dr. King Sr. way is is great and you need to preserve the history that's there 100%. And everything on that side of the tracks is important and needs to be looked after because it's you know it's kind of as you said become the heart of the community. But but that is not [1:35:14, 1:35:23]: Not your real opportunity. This is this is this is what this is a conclusion that we've come to in this report. Your real opportunity is behind us. [1:35:24, 1:35:44]: There's there's lots of land that can be developed. That you have a TAD, you have a tax allocation district that has been set up, and to get that in place, to get the county and the schools to participate in the TAD, to think about where you have land that is um not just your [1:35:44, 1:36:04]: Historic district. Think about where you can build mixed-use developments, where you can have people living downtown, maybe in multifamily, higher density, right? These are some words that some people get scared of, but since you asked, Mr. Thomas, I'm asking you to dream big. [1:36:04, 1:36:24]: on downtown. I'm asking you to think about putting density downtown. I'm asking you to think about your economic development tools such as the tax allocation district downtown, because this is gonna drive your economy. This is absolutely gonna drive your economy. We've seen it in every corner of the region. Uh it city of Douglasville [1:36:24, 1:36:35]: is focused on their downtown. City of Douglasville is putting density downtown. City of Douglasville is aggressively going after mixed use development in their downtown. And they're going to win because of it. [1:36:35, 1:36:39]: It's happening it's happening in every corner of the Atlanta region. [1:36:39, 1:36:57]: And if you're not thinking about going big with your downtown, if you're not thinking about using your tax allocation district, if you're not thinking about getting the county and the schools to participate in your tax allocation district, if you're not thinking about density in your downtown and how you get new businesses downtown and new residents downtown. [1:36:57, 1:36:59]: then you're n you're gonna fall behind. [1:37:00, 1:37:20]: Well well I appreciate that and that's exactly what I wanted to for you all to reiterate. And I think we're sorta on board with that and I think you know we sorta know this but but to hear it reinforce it always encourages us. Mayor? Yeah, go ahead please. Thank you. I appreciate the presentation and thank you for not [1:37:20, 1:37:40]: Coming in here telling us what we wanted to hear and giving us what we needed to hear, which is true. It is the the chart and the path of the future. And and I and I say it, we gotta make sure that our mind wraps around what you just said. Downtown is not just what is a [1:37:40, 1:37:55]: cross the railroad tracks. We passed a map that is inclusive of this entire area, which mentions the area that you're talking about with the available land down East Atlanta Road. All of that is downtown. But there is a mindset [1:37:56, 1:38:16]: in the city that is, oh, we just gotta focus on that one area. I'm sorry, it's not gonna happen in just that one area. It's gonna happen all around us and we need to be uh receptive of what uh what what is to come and understand the businesses are going to uh they're telling us what they really [1:38:16, 1:38:32]: really want and what they really need. They need the land. They need the density. And as you said, some people are alarmed by high density. High density doesn't scare me at all because what it is is that poor quality high density is death. [1:38:32, 1:38:52]: But high quality, high density, that's where it is. And if you go to um any of these places, as you mentioned, Douglasville, amazing transformation in what they're doing downtown or in their area, or Fayetteville, several other uh entities that are really doing great work. They're adding the density. [1:38:52, 1:39:12]: and quality to make sure that they can attract young families, uh seniors to those in walkable communities. That's the vision of where we need to go. And sometimes people do come in here and try to tell us what we want to hear. Well it's gonna be just downtown and that's what's gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. And then people end up disappointed because [1:39:12, 1:39:32]: that's what their expectation is. But again, that is we certainly are talking about with uh new bringing in new housing. And one thing that we realized as a member of the Downtown Development Authority was we did some, we did had Georgia Tech do a report. And the average age of the housing [1:39:32, 1:39:52]: Was 1966. That was shocking and alarming and let us know we needed to do something different to bring life. Because what is missing from this downtown, and it's within all of our hearts that we want this to be well, but it's dead. There's no life here. And that's what's got to change. [1:39:52, 1:40:12]: And what happens is we have young families move in, they bring to life, the kids are gonna be active. There'll be new parks and uh recreational activities for them. They will be outside all the time. The seniors will do the same thing. They will come outside, they will walk these trails, they will engage the community, and they'll do what's necessary. So [1:40:12, 1:40:32]: I thank you uh for that and understanding that logistics is not something that I want to pursue personally. Now if that comes down to uh some advanced manufacturing, let's say uh it was EV battery manufacturing, those are high paying jobs. But the jobs where you're just moving merchandise around and [1:40:32, 1:40:52]: That's uh filled with computer technology, not real jobs. That's not something that I'm personally interested in pursuing, but advanced manufacturing jobs in those facilities that will create wages for the community. I'm certainly uh interested in doing that. And my last point is uh certainly the number [1:40:52, 1:41:12]: Numbers don't lie. And I-75 is driving all the economic development in South Metro Atlanta. The leading horse is going to be Jodico, gonna be Patrick Henry, going to be 138, it's going to be those corridors along I-75, because that's where the traffic counts are. [1:41:12, 1:41:32]: happen to downtown, that all the businesses migrated that way. We have to embrace them and where they want to be, but certainly while providing niche activities and spots like downtown where we want to have unique, not necessarily cookie cutter name brand restaurants, but [1:41:32, 1:41:52]: Unique opportunities who are investing in the city. The one restaurant that has just recently reopened, it's the first fine dining restaurant that we've had in the city, which is Serafino. If you haven't been there, I met the clerk over there for my birthday. She was over there having uh having dinner with her husband. It's absolutely [1:41:52, 1:42:01]: Absolutely amazing. And I invite all y'all to District 5 to the new Serafinos and sit down at a fine dining restaurant. We got one. Thank you. [1:42:01, 1:42:03]: Ms. Uh Barber, go ahead, please. [1:42:05, 1:42:11]: Yes, thank you for your presentation. Um, I'm super excited, super excited about the progress of our city. [1:42:12, 1:42:14]: Um, the whole revitalization. [1:42:15, 1:42:17]: Redevelopment of our downtown. [1:42:17, 1:42:20]: But I am really concerned about um [1:42:21, 1:42:22]: How we grow. [1:42:22, 1:42:29]: In those businesses that we attract. Um, not all growth is good growth. I believe in smart growth. [1:42:30, 1:42:32]: um in all of the principles um [1:42:33, 1:42:34]: aligned with smart growth. [1:42:35, 1:42:37]: We've got some infrastructure challenges here. [1:42:38, 1:42:40]: Um so I'm really concerned about [1:42:40, 1:42:41]: Um [1:42:41, 1:42:43]: До редевелопна ефос. [1:42:43, 1:42:46]: in the downtown area until we address. [1:42:46, 1:42:48]: The infrastructure needs. [1:42:48, 1:42:49]: Um [1:42:49, 1:42:53]: The residents, the businesses within the downtown area. [1:42:53, 1:42:55]: are in the district that I represent. [1:42:56, 1:43:02]: I want to make sure that we are meeting the needs of our entire community, but we're also [1:43:02, 1:43:06]: Адресін сам концерн резидент суволі директні. [1:43:07, 1:43:07]: impacted. [1:43:08, 1:43:09]: by decisions that we make here. [1:43:10, 1:43:13]: I didn't draw my district, my counselmates did. [1:43:13, 1:43:19]: So because they drew me into this district, um I have the unique ability [1:43:20, 1:43:21]: To be able to [1:43:21, 1:43:22]: Um [1:43:22, 1:43:26]: Hear those concerns and also try to address them. [1:43:26, 1:43:28]: While at the same time supporting [1:43:29, 1:43:34]: Supporting our vision of redeveloping and revitalizing our downtown. [1:43:34, 1:43:48]: Um I absolutely agree with the hospital being a intricate part of helping to bring in new businesses. Um I worked in the biomedical industry, so [1:43:48, 1:44:02]: um attracting those types of businesses and companies to the Rock Quarry Road or Jodico Road area, we can not just focus on just downtown, but there are other areas of our city. [1:44:02, 1:44:04]: That could benefit from some of [1:44:05, 1:44:06]: The economic growth too. [1:44:07, 1:44:08]: Thank you. [1:44:09, 1:44:29]: Appreciate the presentation. Clarification though, I just want to make sure that everybody knows this, that when it came to districts that was led by Senator s uh Emmanuel Jones and the Portsmouth Office downtown. And we wanted to make sure that each individual council member at that time had a specific, whatever district they had, they were in that district, and you have to have a certain population, not landmass. [1:44:29, 1:44:39]: So it was it was really done that way in that aspect. So I just wanna every council member [1:44:40, 1:44:41]: Other than me. [1:44:41, 1:44:43]: had an opportunity to provide input. [1:44:44, 1:44:49]: into their district. Okay, I'm okay. I did not. Okay. Um I think it's um a bit unfair. [1:44:49, 1:44:51]: I believe district representation. [1:44:51, 1:44:53]: Um the purpose of it. [1:44:53, 1:44:56]: is to have a representative who lives [1:44:56, 1:44:59]: in the area in which they represent. [1:45:00, 1:45:01]: I don't live downtown. [1:45:02, 1:45:02]: But I represent [1:45:03, 1:45:06]: The businesses and the residents who live here. [1:45:06, 1:45:26]: I live farthest east of City Hall. But nonetheless, I don't want us to get off track from what we're discussing right here. I I just wanna I wanna maybe make this f full picture here and and thinking about the growth of of of downtown. I think there's one percent of folks in Stockbridge live downtown. There isn't housing downtown. So that's maybe one of the problems is what we [1:45:26, 1:45:28]: think about downtown but [1:45:28, 1:45:33]: But thinking about the entire district, um specifically on the growth of medical and the growth of downtown. [1:45:34, 1:45:54]: Think about the workforce. One of the biggest issues in healthcare industry growth right now is attracting and retaining those employees. With a stronger downtown, with that lifestyle, the housing that those folks are looking for, you're opening yourself up for the entire city to grow, not just the downtown. I just I want to make [1:45:54, 1:45:58]: make sure that that's really full circle because we looked at every aspect of that um within this plan. [1:45:59, 1:46:09]: Okay, thank you. Now I what I heard earlier, did you say something about coming back on the ninth of February? Or something like that? Because our next council meeting is actually the twelfth of February. I d I was wondering what the what's going on with that. [1:46:09, 1:46:29]: Sure. So um as I mentioned earlier, you will receive the full draft plan from me um on Thursday. Okay. And at that time, um I'll give you all an opportunity to ask questions and provide comments on the plan. And then February ninth is kind of the deadline to actually submit those questions and comments so that we have time to work through those with [1:46:29, 1:46:47]: with uh the consultants and then I believe we're coming back at the last meeting in February for the final adoption. Okay, that'd be the work session in February then. Okay, got it. Good point. Point appreciate if there are not any questions, thank you for the presentation. If there are any questions on that good job, appreciate thank you. Thank you very much. All right. Let's move on. [1:46:48, 1:47:08]: Okay, we're going to old business. And uh this deals with the veto of the ordinance OR 24-53 uh excuse me five five three to amend the city of uh Stockbridge Charter, Article 2, Section 3.1B regarding the appointment of Mayor Pro Tem Section 3.23 of the Charter, submission of ordinances to the mayor's uh veto of power. [1:47:08, 1:47:16]: Every ordinance adopted by the city council shall be present presented by the city clerk to the mayor within three days after its adoption. [1:47:16, 1:47:22]: The mayor shall within ten days of the adoption of the ordinance return it to the city clerk with with or without his approval. [1:47:23, 1:47:43]: or with his disapproval. If the ordinance has been approved by the mayor, it shall become law upon its return to the city clerk. If the ordinance is neither approved nor disapproved, it shall become law on the eleventh day after its adoption. If the ordinance is dis of disapproved, the mayor shall submit a city council to to the city council through the city clerk a written screen. [1:47:42, 1:48:02]: Statement on the reasons for the veto. The city clerk shall record upon the ordinance to date of delivery to and the receipt of the from the mayor. Ordinances vetoed by the mayor shall be presented by the city clerk to the city council at its next meeting and shall this and should the city council then or at its next general meeting adopt a ordinance by the city. [1:48:02, 1:48:07]: by the affirmative vote of at least four council members it shall become law. [1:48:07, 1:48:26]: The mayor may disapprove or reduce any item or items in appropriation of any ordinance, the approved part or parts of any ordinance making appropriations shall become law, and the part of the parts disapproved shall not become law unless subsequently passed by the city council or over over the mayor's veto as provided in this section. [1:48:26, 1:48:46]: The reduced part of the or part shall be presented to city council as uh through the disapproval and shall become law unless overridden by the council as provided by subsection C of this section. And ladies and gentlemen and council, you realize that I I vetoed this I sent you a vetoed uh message as well as uh explanations on that uh message. [1:48:46, 1:48:57]: itself and again I think that the by l or ordinance should not be a law should not uh change this particular aspect it says in the in the charter that this uh the actual [1:48:57, 1:49:17]: Mayor Protence should be appointed by the council. So putting something in writing as an ordinance to change, I just wouldn't think that was necessary. And no, I did not discuss this my decision uh ahead of time with any council members, any staff. I thought about it a couple of days before I made my decision. But obviously, as I mentioned uh uh before in in my message, uh email message that it can [1:49:17, 1:49:37]: We have checks and balances so and I just read the fact that it the veto can be overridden by four confirmed council members in this aspect as well. Um I think that uh over the course of time that the council has the individual authority and judgment to select the Mirapro TAM. And of course I I have agreed and have stated publicly I believe in a in a rotation should be. [1:49:37, 1:49:57]: Sure, it should have a rotation, but it's rotation should be agreed upon, uh, like a gentleman's or ladies' agreement, a council agreement. It doesn't need to be written in stone in this aspect. It's my belief on that. Uh so that is why I uh w wrote this um a veto this action and made those statements. So I think in a sense it just means we just need to communicate a little better and agree to disagree. [1:49:57, 1:50:07]: and and st do the best we can support one another the best we can in this aspect. So on that note, um I would ask is there a motion to override my veto? [1:50:10, 1:50:13]: Is there a motion to override my veto? [1:50:13, 1:50:19]: Okay, it's no motion over I'm on veto, so I'm a veto stands in this aspect as well. So move on to the next item. [1:50:20, 1:50:32]: The next item deals with new business. Council consideration approved a resolution to establish a systematic approach to the appointment of Mayor Pro Tem in the city of Stockbridge. Once again, this is presented by Attorney Samantha Samantha Embry. [1:50:36, 1:50:38]: Sem okay. [1:50:48, 1:50:49]: Evening to you. [1:50:49, 1:50:53]: Before I begin, did you all get the memo that we sent over earlier today? [1:50:54, 1:51:00]: Yeah, yeah, we we received a message from uh Quentin, yes. I received I'm pretty sure everybody else received it. They looked at it and read it. [1:51:00, 1:51:03]: Do you have any questions about that? [1:51:03, 1:51:23]: No, we just need you to cover the resolution. Well I I I do have a thought. I mean I I just what I recall the last time I'd hold on a second, sir. I've got I I got a comment. What I recall uh uh Samantha is that at the last meeting I thought you mentioned came back to us and mentioned that a resolution couldn't be done. [1:51:23, 1:51:38]: I mean I I don't know if that's a mistake and or misspoken. I mean that this seems like though this particular document that mister Washington sent out says it can be done. But I was just wanna get clarification on that. That's all. It can be done but it's gonna be limited to every two years, you're gonna have to do it again. It's not [1:51:38, 1:51:48]: gonna stick. So'cause you can't as I said at the last meeting, you can't bind future councils. So as soon as you elect someone else, you're gonna have to do another resolution saying the same thing. [1:51:48, 1:51:56]: Okay. I just need clarification on that'cause I've I'm remembering what I trying to reflect back what I thought I heard before. Okay. Any further discussion? [1:51:57, 1:52:17]: Uh no, I um certainly we've had the re we've had the information in front of us. I think uh the real issue is is that we pretty much understand that legal has given the opinion that we can do it, and certainly I think uh what we want to do is to be fair. Mayor, you said it that you support the rotation [1:52:16, 1:52:36]: As a gentleman's or gentlelady's agreement, but certainly this council has demonstrated that that's just not possible. Every time this issue is raised, it turns into a contentious, contentious public debate. And I don't I'm hoping this don't turn into a contentious public debate, but certainly uh in accordance with meeting the [1:52:36, 1:52:56]: parameters of the charter, we will limit it to the prescribed time as described by legal counsel. And should there be changes on the council, certainly a new uh vote and rotation will be need to be established uh in accordance with that. So certainly if someone lost the election, they couldn't be Mayor Pro Tem. [1:52:56, 1:53:16]: I I really thought that that would go without saying is that if the council members change, a new vote and a new rotation would have to be established. That is exactly what the intention of the resolution was, and that was exactly the intent of the ordinance. I really didn't think that I had to say that if somebody was defeated, they couldn't be elected uh as mayor. [1:53:16, 1:53:36]: Pro Tem. So certainly that's what uh the intent is and uh in order to move forward with this. And I certainly hope that again I did not we did not raise uh this issue when it came to the veto because I did not want this to turn into a public spectacle and hopefully this can. [1:53:36, 1:53:56]: Can not turn into a public spectacle as legal has already given the opinion that this is sound and legal and that it is uh we we're allowed to do so. If we could just move through this, and again we moved through our obstacle number one. There was no debate, we just simply did it, we took the legal advice. [1:53:56, 1:54:16]: uh that was prescribed. The mayor legally vetoed the item, we uh which is your right. I just certainly wish that that was not the case and we had moved forward with this uh in in accordance just understanding again that uh it's limited time scope and that if it's subsequent to an [1:54:16, 1:54:23]: An election, if the council members change, there would be a new rotation that would need to be established. That's my point. [1:54:24, 1:54:27]: Sorry, you make a motion to I would make a motion to that effect. Is there a second to the motion? [1:54:29, 1:54:31]: Oh Mr. Berry, second that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:54:32, 1:54:33]: All post. [1:54:34, 1:54:37]: Okay, motion pass three to two. It's gonna be a resolution. [1:54:38, 1:54:53]: All right, we'll move on. Council consideration to adopt a model finding resolution on the proposed uh local amendment of plumbing code of water efficiency coal requirements by Georgia Department of Community Affairs. Mr Jeremy Goodwin. [1:54:53, 1:55:11]: How you doing, sir? I'm doing pretty good and good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh the city is uh required to adopt the uh model findings resolution uh prior to the formal um adoption process for their water efficiency quotes. Uh did anybody have any questions on on that? [1:55:12, 1:55:24]: Did everybody get have time to actually read the the model's findings resolution and the red lines that was submitted? How about this? How about could you go in a more l more or less explanation about what what we're talking about, what you're asking for us to prove? [1:55:25, 1:55:31]: Oh, okay. So you could do that please? So basically um in the packet that was submitted um is through the [1:55:34, 1:55:42]: So it's through the Department of Com Community Affairs and they um issued some red lines uh [1:55:42, 1:56:02]: It's basically for water efficiency code requirements. So it um exceeds the plumbing code standards and it's something the city that has to adopt. So it's it can be things such as uh um this addresses maximum flow rates um through plumbing fixtures. [1:56:02, 1:56:04]: Um [1:56:05, 1:56:18]: Also it uh entails uh landscape irrigation systems uh for their like design standards for landscape irrigation centers such as uh s sprinkler head heights and different things like that. [1:56:18, 1:56:19]: Okay, yeah. [1:56:20, 1:56:22]: All right. Uh council, any questions at all? [1:56:22, 1:56:35]: Uh no, this is a requirement that we move forward with this and this is to be expected that to stay in compliance with state r state requirements we w we would need to pass this, correct? Yes, sir. So move. [1:56:35, 1:56:40]: Okay. I second. Okay, there you go. So any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [1:56:41, 1:56:47]: Un decision? Okay. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, uh uh counsel. Jeremy, that was pretty simple for you tonight. [1:56:47, 1:56:48]: Okay. [1:56:48, 1:57:08]: I guarantee, sir, it won't always be like that now. All right. Council consideration approved the annual contract RFP 2022-0026 with the Site Engineering Incorporated for on-call water and sewer emergency and operational repair, maintenance, and construction services in amount of$400,000 as approved in the F. [1:57:08, 1:57:18]: FY twenty twenty four Stonewater budget. The account number is five one zero four two five zero zero dash five four two five one five Stonewater repair. Mr Aaron, please. [1:57:18, 1:57:38]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. For the last few years, our staff has used the services of site engineering to assist us with stormwater repairs out in our system. As part of our MS-4 permit with the Georgia Department of Natural Resources, we are required to inventory and maintain our stormwater infrastructure. [1:57:38, 1:57:58]: infrastructure. Last year we allocated$300,000. This year we're asking for an additional$100,000 because we inherited as a result of annexation a different additional 97 miles of roadway. So we've got to account for the infrastructure in there as we go about [1:57:58, 1:58:02]: conducting our analysis and assessment. We found some [1:58:02, 1:58:12]: problem areas that we're gonna have to address. And one thing that happened, I guess, with the recent rain is uh a property that came into the city on Mays Road. [1:58:13, 1:58:17]: got a phone call today, so we're trying to determine if it's a city or [1:58:18, 1:58:30]: resident issue, but it's gonna be a substantial undertaking. So we just wanna ask Mayor and Council to allow us to use the services of site engineering for another year to assist us with our stormwater management infrastructure. [1:58:30, 1:58:35]: I'm sorry, Mr. Aaron. I'm sorry, you s what road I must have missed it. You said Mays Road. Mays Road? Yes, sir. [1:58:36, 1:58:56]: Okay. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that council approve the annual contract with the site engineering for on call water and sewer emergency operation costs in the amount of four hundred thousand um as approved in the FY twenty twenty-four stormwater budget. Okay. Is there a second to motion? Second. Mr. Secretary in all favor, please indicate. [1:58:56, 1:59:01]: Discussion. Oh discussion. What's your go ahead please? Um so approving this. [1:59:02, 1:59:04]: Will you be rebidding this next year? [1:59:04, 1:59:10]: Well, this is our second renewal on a five year if if it's the [1:59:11, 1:59:20]: uh opinion of mayor and council we will, but CITES done a great job for us in making repairs for us and the prices are very competitive. [1:59:21, 1:59:25]: So we would hope that we'd be able to So I'm looking at the background information. [1:59:25, 1:59:26]: And you said that [1:59:26, 1:59:28]: The original contract was awarded in [1:59:29, 1:59:30]: Twenty twenty one. [1:59:30, 1:59:32]: I don't just I just don't like [1:59:32, 1:59:35]: Continuously renewing the same contracts. [1:59:36, 1:59:38]: Over and over after a period of time. [1:59:38, 1:59:39]: If we've already [1:59:40, 1:59:40]: Um [1:59:41, 1:59:42]: Renewed it. [1:59:42, 1:59:44]: Three times already. [1:59:44, 1:59:47]: then I'm hoping that we will rebid this. [1:59:49, 1:59:56]: So is that what your plan is next year? I will get with procurement to get that uh schedule started. [1:59:57, 2:00:01]: Okay, thank you sir. Mayor forward Yes, sir. Question. Let's go right, please. [2:00:01, 2:00:15]: So mr. Aaron, you mentioned due to annexation and Mays Road, um there are some discoveries. So outside of that one road, [2:00:16, 2:00:17]: City wide. [2:00:19, 2:00:39]: Are there any other uh documentation or documented issues citywide? So one of the things we've requested from Henry County, we've obtained the information is the data that they have on the stormwater infrastructure that we inherited. So we're going through the [2:00:39, 2:00:51]: that. We're also making um actually going out field verifying some of the infrastructure and also reviewing the data that they sent us. And so we'd be preparing a report of what we found. [2:00:51, 2:00:52]: Yeah. [2:00:53, 2:00:56]: So go ahead, sir. Go ahead. If you still got the course. [2:00:57, 2:01:00]: So h how how how do we as a city [2:01:02, 2:01:09]: proactively get ahead, uh, because it seems that we are [2:01:10, 2:01:18]: setting ourselves to to react to s to to these problems. So how how do we get ahead [2:01:18, 2:01:22]: uh of of this issue as a city. How how do we get ahead? [2:01:23, 2:01:43]: Uh or can we get ahead? Well w we we've got to make a commitment to make improvements in our infrastructure. I was at a public works managers conference uh this last week, and that was one of the things that we talked about and discussed in our training is that infrastructure improvements is not sexy. It's not sexy. [2:01:43, 2:02:03]: something you can put your name on and go show people that, well, we installed a 12 inch water main. It's on the ground. People don't see it. So it's out of sight, it's out of mind. So when it comes to funding choices, we choose the things that people can do and all versus the things that till a road, fail, a pothole, I mean that a sinkhole. [2:02:03, 2:02:23]: Opens up in the road and it swallows a car. Then we realize we got a problem. We got to always be dedicating resources, financial resources to make improvement in our infrastructure. It's just like roles. We're going to discuss that when at the retreat. You know, we get plenty of calls and concerns about roles, old contracts. [2:02:23, 2:02:30]: And you know, things of that nature. And we just gotta make a commitment that we're gonna invest in our infrastructure. [2:02:30, 2:02:43]: Okay, may I I'm gonna yield back and I know this is my comment now and I know it's not a part of the discussion, but hopefully um sometime in the future you will give us an infrastructure um [2:02:43, 2:02:50]: Plan, I guess, if you will. We're working. We we got one for water, we got one for sewer, we got one for storm water. Okay, sounds good. [2:02:51, 2:03:03]: Are you Mayor? Ms. G go ahead, Ms. Gantt. Thank you. I have and Mayor and Council on uh uh let me just state this. Um council I understand what Councilwoman Barber had mentioned, but we didn't consent. [2:03:03, 2:03:05]: To you going back to [2:03:05, 2:03:15]: get another bitch through procurement. And the reason why I say that is I hope that Mayor and Council, if you turn to the next page after the City of Stockbridge agenda item. [2:03:15, 2:03:22]: And then you see the staff recommendation on the second page. The very next third, the the next page says contract renewal. [2:03:23, 2:03:24]: Everybody got their page? [2:03:25, 2:03:27]: Just wanna make sure you're all on the same page. [2:03:33, 2:03:35]: It says contract renewal. [2:03:36, 2:03:56]: Okay. Yes. All right. It says the above reference contract expires on April twelfth, twenty twenty four. Per the terms of this contract, this agreement shall be for one year commencing on the date of execution stated above, which was december thirteenth, twenty twenty-three, right? [2:03:55, 2:03:56]: Right? [2:03:56, 2:04:04]: Then it says, and the city shall have the option to renew for four. [2:04:04, 2:04:11]: one year period. This is the second of the four renewals. [2:04:12, 2:04:13]: Everybody got that? Right. [2:04:14, 2:04:15]: So [2:04:15, 2:04:26]: Is this the third of the four renewals, or will this be the second of the four renewals? This is the second and then the first one. This is the second. And therefore, I am not for us going over. [2:04:26, 2:04:34]: and reinventing the wheel when it states here that there's the contract evaluation, everything has been satisfied. [2:04:34, 2:04:47]: And our public works director is basically saying to us that everything is okay and he prefers not to renew right now unless it's the will of Mayor and Council. This is the second of four. [2:04:48, 2:04:49]: This contract agreement [2:04:50, 2:04:53]: This date was december thirteenth, twenty twenty three. [2:04:54, 2:04:56]: And in addition to that [2:04:56, 2:05:06]: the first one and and it actually states when the contract expires, April twelfth, twenty twenty four. And so this is the second one. This will be the second renewal. [2:05:06, 2:05:08]: And I just want to bring your attention to that. [2:05:09, 2:05:29]: And if mayor and council for point of order, just for point of order, if mayor and council chooses to take this back to procurement, then it cannot be done or dictated by one council member. We must vote in state of author. We must have a consensus of three. That's [2:05:29, 2:05:35]: That's it. That's all I have to say. Okay. Thank you for that clarification there. All right. Any other questions, concerns? Yes, sir. Go write it, please. [2:05:35, 2:05:36]: Um [2:05:37, 2:05:38]: So [2:05:39, 2:05:43]: My question to Mr. Aaron was will he [2:05:44, 2:05:45]: Be putting this out. [2:05:45, 2:05:46]: To rebuild it. [2:05:47, 2:05:49]: That was my question. It was not a directive. [2:05:50, 2:05:50]: Secondly, the [2:05:51, 2:05:54]: What I've asked for are supporting documents. [2:05:55, 2:05:56]: The actual contract. [2:05:56, 2:05:59]: is not included with our package. [2:05:59, 2:06:01]: All we have is a written [2:06:01, 2:06:02]: Summary [2:06:02, 2:06:03]: From staff. [2:06:03, 2:06:05]: So I don't know when [2:06:06, 2:06:08]: The contract was approved. [2:06:08, 2:06:12]: I don't know if this this is one of those contracts. [2:06:12, 2:06:16]: That staff has been bringing to the council. [2:06:16, 2:06:17]: To have renewed [2:06:17, 2:06:19]: Every year after year. [2:06:20, 2:06:21]: after year after year. [2:06:22, 2:06:24]: I do not agree with it. [2:06:24, 2:06:25]: I don't. [2:06:25, 2:06:28]: А дусі дари [2:06:28, 2:06:30]: We have the ability. [2:06:30, 2:06:32]: To renew this contract for an additional [2:06:33, 2:06:34]: Four ti four times. [2:06:35, 2:06:36]: With a one year [2:06:36, 2:06:38]: Extension or renewal. [2:06:38, 2:06:39]: I get that. [2:06:39, 2:06:40]: I understand that. [2:06:41, 2:06:43]: My question is. [2:06:43, 2:06:47]: When was this contract originally approved by the council? [2:06:48, 2:06:56]: Was it approved and originally awarded and approved in twenty twenty one or was it prior to that? [2:06:56, 2:07:00]: А болів і вас прай твані твоті вон. [2:07:00, 2:07:19]: In fact, when I came on board, we've been using the same contractors for services over and over and over again, and they're not being rebidted. So absolutely, I will ask the question every single time the staff requests that we renew a contract. [2:07:20, 2:07:26]: I don't have the supporting documents in front of me, so absolutely I'm gonna ask the question. The contract is not included. [2:07:27, 2:07:27]: Т [2:07:28, 2:07:29]: Actual contract. [2:07:30, 2:07:31]: That's not the contract. [2:07:31, 2:07:32]: That's the resolution. [2:07:32, 2:07:34]: The contract that was signed. [2:07:35, 2:07:36]: The contract that the [2:07:37, 2:07:38]: On site engineering. [2:07:39, 2:07:43]: Submitted to the city for approval. [2:07:44, 2:07:54]: that was awarded the original contract is what I'm asking for. Not that. Thank you, sir. Okay. [2:07:54, 2:08:08]: I'm sorry, Mayor. Mayor, may I it's just it's right behind there, Councilwoman Barber. It says service agreement by and between site engineering and the city of Stockbridge. And it was dated the twelfth day of April 2021. [2:08:08, 2:08:15]: And then it was signed by site engineering. It's right behind it's right behind those other documents I just told you about. [2:08:17, 2:08:20]: Thank you. [2:08:20, 2:08:37]: The contract once it's approved, the contract don't change unless we do an addendum to add something to the contract. We're just extending the term of this agreement. Okay. We're not renewing the contract or anything. That never changes unless we add something or remove something from the contract. [2:08:37, 2:08:46]: May I add one one last comment and I'll make it brief. Mayor Ford. Go ahead, please. The reason why I always bring up [2:08:47, 2:08:55]: Um the renewal of contracts versus rebidding them is because I want to see competition. [2:08:55, 2:09:01]: I don't want us to continuously approving increases to contracts. [2:09:02, 2:09:04]: So if we are able to rebid this. [2:09:05, 2:09:08]: Who knows, we may get a better cost. [2:09:10, 2:09:18]: But I don't know that if all I'm being asked is to continuously renew a contract year over year. [2:09:19, 2:09:22]: with an increase. So I just want to see some competition. [2:09:23, 2:09:23]: Thank you, sir. [2:09:23, 2:09:43]: For clar for clarification, I've got I arrived here in December of twenty sixteen. This contract has been bidded out three times. Site has been the lowest bidder every time that we bidded it. We bidded it out. So we'll record. So we had a motion. The motion was made. It was made by Ms. Cand and uh second Mr. [2:09:43, 2:09:46]: Alexander, all in favor, motion please indicate. [2:09:47, 2:09:53]: Opposed? Abstain? I will abstain. Okay, four zero one. Motion passed. [2:09:56, 2:10:00]: All right, let's move on. Thank you, Mr. Aaron. [2:10:00, 2:10:19]: Council consideration to approve the purchase of two four transit F two fifty cargo vans from Lithia Springs Ford to the lowest quoted price, not exceeding ninety-nine thousand five hundred dollars as an emergency exception to the city's procurement code. Funding source, budget transfer fund balance, Chief Frank Tremor. Chief, good evening, Mayor and Council. [2:10:20, 2:10:30]: Uh the police department unfortunately we've lost uh three vehicles as a result of uh accidents uh that were completely totaled. As a result of that we've received uh hundred and seventeen thousand [2:10:31, 2:10:51]: And uh fifty-five dollars in uh reimbursements through insurance. Uh we are looking to acquire um two transit vans to replace uh two of the damaged vehicles and um those funds will be coming from the insurance reimbursement account. Um these vehicles we're still dealing with uh vehicles. [2:10:51, 2:11:03]: shortages. So uh the only place that they're available currently is at Lithia Springs. And it just so happens that Lithia Springs is the lowest quoted price that we're able to find from those that um are uh suppliers of these vehicles. [2:11:04, 2:11:08]: Okay. Uh questions for the uh council and for chief chairman? [2:11:08, 2:11:12]: I do have one question. Go right, please. Now Chief, we have how many accidents [2:11:13, 2:11:15]: I'm sorry. How many accidents have we had? [2:11:16, 2:11:33]: I don't know specifically. There were three veh three vehicles or total. Three vehicles were total. So talk about that and um what is it that um contributed to these I mean I don't wanna talk about it legally, but is there something that we can do um [2:11:34, 2:11:42]: Two two of these two of these instances were not at fault. Uh accidents where officers were on calls. One was actually rear ended by a drunk driver. [2:11:42, 2:11:47]: And uh the drunk driver was subsequently arres arrested and officers were injured in that accident. Um [2:11:47, 2:12:07]: And um that vehicle was replaced through insurance. We had another uh where officer was on a call and was uh also rear ended. And uh there was one accident where we were actually at fault and that vehicle was totaled in that accident. So of those three vehicles that are being totaled and replaced, um there was one that we were at fault for and two that were of no fault of ours. Okay, so it was it was one at [2:12:07, 2:12:16]: Fought accident, pretty much. Okay. And two drunk drivers we had. Well, one drunk driver. One drunk driver. Awesome. Wow. That's wow. [2:12:16, 2:12:25]: Uh, certainly. Well hopefully uh no one was hurt or in those situations or was it they they were they were serious. But nothing serious, yeah. Nothing serious. Okay, thank you. [2:12:26, 2:12:46]: Question if any any questions. Oh, Miss Berry, go ahead, please. Yeah, Chief, what would be the primary purpose for the the two fifties? Uh we have, as you as you can understand, uh it's difficult to acquire vehicles. The time that we get the patrol vehicles, it can be months uh to get the vehicle, and then there's the upfitting of the vehicle, which again takes sometimes extract. [2:12:46, 2:12:49]: It could take four to six months to upfit the vehicle. So to [2:12:49, 2:13:09]: From the time a vehicle is damaged, the time we get the vehicle, the time we upfit it, it takes it it could take nine months to a year to get that vehicle replaced. So currently, our crime scene investigators are in uh Ford F 150 pickup trucks that are already marked, they have computers in them, they have red and blue lights. So, in order to cut down that lead time, what we want to [2:13:09, 2:13:29]: To do is pull our crime scene investigators out of the pickup trucks, put them in cargo vans, which will allow them more space for their crime scene processing equipment. And they don't necessarily need that emergency equipment and things that are in those vehicles. So it's an easier conversion for us to go ahead and put them in those cargo vans and go ahead and make the replacement to put those pickup trucks in position. [2:13:29, 2:13:30]: Patrol use. [2:13:33, 2:13:37]: Will the pickup trucks be repurposed? They they will be. They'll be going back to our patrol division. [2:13:39, 2:13:40]: Any other questions from the council? [2:13:41, 2:14:01]: Let me ask another question while chief before we go ahead and make the motion. Oh go ahead. Now this is completely off the subject. Okay. But I just want to make sure that we have some understanding of where we are, because we're trying to be a twenty first century police department with all these issues going on. There was the unfortunate incident where this [2:14:01, 2:14:21]: elderly gentleman was thrown to the ground and ended up being killed because he would not sign the citation. Uh and the officer, whomever he was, showed no compassion, no type of empathy for the gentleman, and certainly we [2:14:21, 2:14:30]: We want to make sure that we avoid all types of situations like that. If that situation took place in Stockbridge, could that senior have [2:14:30, 2:14:32]: Opted not to sign the ticket. [2:14:33, 2:14:39]: I was hoping my officers were in here'cause they could attest to this. I've issued a special order after that incident that says that we will not [2:14:40, 2:14:44]: Um make a custodial arrest simply for refusal to sign a traffic citation. [2:14:44, 2:15:04]: Uh we're not gonna get into semantics. The reality is is if we can confirm the identity of the individual um uh through their driver's license and they refuse to sign a citation, that's what court's for. And uh we'll just write refusal to sign on that citation, give them a court date, and advise them that if they fail to appear, then a warrant would be issued for their arrest. But our position is that four [2:15:04, 2:15:07]: For that alone we will not make a custodial arrest on that. [2:15:07, 2:15:27]: Okay, so since that is uh that is a uh that's what you have prescribed to the officer, should the code be updated to reflect that or is that No, because state law supersedes any department policies and currently state law allows for the arrest of someone who refuses to sign a traffic citation. Uh but our policies, our internal policies can be [2:15:27, 2:15:34]: be more restrictive than what the state law says, which is why we've issued an order internally in terms of how we operate in our protocols. Okay. [2:15:35, 2:15:35]: [8135.9, 8139.8]: All right. If there are no other questions in a motion to accept uh Chief's uh proposal. [2:15:41, 2:15:43]: So moved. Okay, Mr. Alzheimer's a second. [2:15:44, 2:15:46]: Okay, Mr. Berry, second all fair, please indicate. [2:15:47, 2:15:49]: Nice decision. Thank you, Chief. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. [2:15:50, 2:16:05]: Okay, let's see here. It's five oh okay. Council uh consideration approval ordinance uh to amend section four point one zero, department heads to grant hiring authority to appointed and non-appointed department heads presented by our attorney, Samantha Embry. [2:16:06, 2:16:07]: Please. [2:16:09, 2:16:22]: Council, we drafted this uh ordinance at the request of council that department heads be granted the authority to hire and fire within their own departments. Presently [2:16:23, 2:16:26]: That right under ordinance is through counsel. [2:16:27, 2:16:29]: And this ordinance would would change that. [2:16:31, 2:16:34]: Okay. Okay, higher and fire, he said? Yes. [2:16:35, 2:16:42]: Okay. Mayor. Yeah, go ahead, please. I would like to um move that we go into executive session for this item. [2:16:44, 2:17:02]: On the agenda. If we have another item on the agenda, I ask that we proceed with that one and but I would like to move that we move this item into executive session for personnel issues. Second. Okay. So on that note, uh motion been made second and further discussion. [2:17:02, 2:17:05]: If not all in favor of of that's motion, please indicate. [2:17:05, 2:17:24]: So it's full of Alan Ba I'm sorry. To go in executive session. Not I'm saying after the agenda item number twelve. Oh no, we removed that. Okay, so let me go ahead and make a motion. I move that we go into executive session for real estate personnel and litigation matters to include I um agenda item number eleven. [2:17:25, 2:17:40]: Council consideration to approve an ordinance to amend section four point one oh department heads to grant hiring authority to appointed and non non appointed department heads. Okay, this says hiring and firing. Hiring and fire, yes. Yeah. Second. Okay, all favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:17:42, 2:17:43]: Opposed. [2:17:44, 2:17:45]: Okay, uh what what you [2:17:46, 2:17:48]: You you posed I don't know if you voted [2:17:48, 2:17:51]: You you're okay to go in the second session. So once again, all all in favor, please indicate. [2:17:52, 2:17:54]: Okay, all polls. [2:17:54, 2:17:59]: Okay, so three two, so we're gonna go into Zechar Session. Now we're talking about Zecess right now, versus at the end of the meeting? [2:18:00, 2:18:04]: Right. Well that is it. This is it. No, no, well I mean I have more to we have more things to do, but [2:18:04, 2:18:10]: No, go ahead to your next session. Okay. So what we got here, um [2:18:10, 2:18:30]: Upcoming meeting announcement council meeting to be held at the city council chambers. Meeting dates, location, and times are subject to change the content of city hall offices, 770-389-7900. Or visit the website www.stockbridgega.org for updates. Stockbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting first Thursday of each month. [2:18:30, 2:18:50]: 6 p.m. the Stockbridge Police Community Room, 4545 North Henry Boulevard, February 1st. Council Retreat, 6 to 8 February from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. location in Sandy Springs, Georgia. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month. Welcome Center Main Street offices located at 130 North, excuse me, 130 Martin Luther King, Singing Harry. [2:18:50, 2:19:10]: Heritage Trail, 9 a.m. and 9 February. The URA, Urban Redevelopment Agency, meeting Monday, February 12th at 5 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers on 12th February. City Council meeting the second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers on February 12th. Uh Council meeting the second Monday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall, Levi [2:19:10, 2:19:30]: Meeting room February twelfth. Planning commission meeting third through third Thursday of each month, 630 P.M. City Hall, Council Chambers of February 15th. Downtown Development Authority meeting third Tuesday of each month. Welcome center 130 mil uh ML King Senior Heritage Trail February twentieth. [2:19:30, 2:19:50]: Um 6 30 p.m. on the third Tuesday of each month, the Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, February 20th. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers on February 27th. Join Councilman Thomas as uh and the Stockbridge U Council on February 10th for the installation of a Dompter Road sign on Tie Street uh [2:19:50, 2:20:10]: Coming up. More information to follow with that. Join Councilman Thomas over the monthly Senior Bingo Bash on Wednesday, February 21st from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merminus Conference Center, 111 Davis Road for Raffles, Prizes, Games, Snacks, and fun. More information, please contact Roslin Rawls at 678-833-3348-RR [2:20:10, 2:20:30]: Rawls at city excuse me, R. Raws at stopbridgega.org. Join Councilman Alexander to Quarley Town Hall on Thursday, February 22nd, 7 p.m. And I guess the location still needed to be determined for that. Join Councilman Thomas on the 13th annual, 413th annual African-American Heritage Celebration. [2:20:30, 2:20:50]: Saturday, February 24th at 5 p.m. to 7 p.m. here at Merrill Manters Conference Center. Join Mayor Ford for the monthly meet the mayor on Monday, February 26th from 10 a.m. to noon. Please contact Roslin Ross to schedule an appointment at 678-833-3348 or by way of email R. Rawls at StopBreak. [2:20:50, 2:21:10]: G A.org. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge initiative centered around education highlighting the causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow with that. And Councilman, join Councilman Thomas for honoring veterans with continuous salute all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans, their names, branch, rank, years of service. [2:21:10, 2:21:30]: To R. Rawls at Stockbridge G A.org. And on that note, in my comments on that note about veterans, it's been in the news lately, ladies and gentlemen, about three U.S. Army Reserve soldiers that were staced that were mobilized and stationed in Jordan, which is near the Syrian border, that were killed in a drone attack. Uh killed those [2:21:30, 2:21:50]: Individuals. There are 40 soldiers that were wounded, but three were killed. And these individuals, if I got the names right, Sergeant William Rivers, 36 years old, specialist Rihanna Moffat, 23 years old, and specialist Kennedy Sanders, 24 years old. And [2:21:50, 2:22:10]: These individuals live they their families are from Way Cross, Carrollton, and Savannah. And thus far and they were with a combat in engineer regiment, as I understand, if I got that right there. And obviously not only the governor but the president of the United States have honored condolences to those soldiers' families. Uh so we keep those families to those soldiers in in uh prayer. [2:22:10, 2:22:30]: uh and and the fact that obviously they're going through a difficult time of losing their loved ones in this uh in the combat zone. Uh and actually they were stationed out of um Fort Um Moore, which is which is down in Columbus, which used to be the formerly Fort Benning. Okay. So uh please keep it in mind, keep it the families in mind. [2:22:30, 2:22:50]: Keeping prayers there. And once again, we're still in the winter months. COVID-19 still out there. So RSV is out there. So take your flu shots, take your boosters, be safe in this aspect as well. We want you to be healthy. The loved ones want you to be healthy. And we just completed the council online along with cities and elected officials all over the state, just completed. [2:22:49, 2:23:09]: Our four-day Cities United Conference in downtown Atlanta. Had a great time, good educational aspect, a good way to meet and talk with your legislators as well as to talk to your fellow uh council members across the state to get some ideas and thoughts on how to help run your cities. On that note, obviously we've already uh agreed to go in a regular uh session. [2:23:09, 2:23:18]: To talk about personal, legal, and real estate matters, and we'll be back once we uh get done with that. So see you back in a bit. We'll go to Cycle C. [2:23:27, 2:23:40]: All right, uh Council, I need a motion to end the executive session, please. Some move. Uh so some move was who that? Uh Miss Barber? Uh Mr Ba uh Ms. Berry second that all in favor please indicate. [2:23:40, 2:23:54]: Stamp's decision. Now I need a motion to reconvene our uh work session, please. Some of them. Okay. Oh wait, let's go. From GAP to give it to Mr. Berry. Mr. Berry, who's second that? Ms. Barber. Miss Barber just raised her hand. She's second that. All in favor, please indicate. [2:23:55, 2:24:07]: All right. So for the summer from our executive session we have a an announcement or a message uh for for everybody at this point. Mr. Um Thomas, please. Thank you, Mayor. [2:24:08, 2:24:11]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. I move. [2:24:11, 2:24:14]: To allow all department heads [2:24:15, 2:24:16]: And all [2:24:16, 2:24:18]: appointed positions [2:24:19, 2:24:20]: By the city council [2:24:21, 2:24:23]: The authority [2:24:23, 2:24:26]: To her and far staff. [2:24:26, 2:24:30]: Within their respective department. [2:24:32, 2:24:33]: Sir, second that motion. [2:24:34, 2:24:37]: Mr. Barrett second down. All in favor, please indicate. [2:24:38, 2:24:39]: Namse season. [2:24:40, 2:24:44]: All right, on that note, uh I need a motion to end our uh council meeting. [2:24:44, 2:24:51]: Is there a second? Mr. Berry, is there a second? Mr. Thomas second all fair, please indicate. Holy smokes, we're done. God bless you. [2:24:54, 2:24:55]: How about them? [2:24:59, 2:25:01]: Ho ho ho [2:25:26, 2:25:27]: Oh my god. [2:25:27, 2:25:28]: [8730.0, 8730.4]: Right. [2:25:31, 2:25:33]: Oh my quick card real. [2:25:35, 2:25:46]: Don't tell me to score, so I'll watch I ain't gonna tell you. I ain't gonna make that LeBron didn't play the bag either. Oh okay. So you you that ought to tell

--- title: Planning Commission date: 2024-01-25 source: 2024-01-25_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:04:38, 0:04:43]: Good evening. It's now six thirty. The Plan Commission meeting is now called to order. [0:04:47, 0:04:50]: Let us humble a bow for the invocation. [0:04:54, 0:04:57]: Loving God, we come to you this afternoon in this hallowed chamber. [0:05:00, 0:05:07]: To do the b business of the people, to do the people's business. God, we invite your spirit into this place. [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: And we ask God that [0:05:11, 0:05:27]: Each individual present will allow your spirit to rule our hearts, to guide our thoughts, and to control our lives, and that we may continue to be servants of all. Amen. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: Gotta stand for the pledge. [0:05:36, 0:05:48]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic of which it stands, one nation, one God, indivisible, with liberty and justice all. [0:05:58, 0:06:01]: Madam Secretary, roll call please. [0:06:05, 0:06:15]: Stanley Dumas. Present. Harold Dibodeau. Present. David Planchin. Present. Anthony Mitten? Present. Jaden Williams. [0:06:15, 0:06:17]: President. [0:06:18, 0:06:19]: Thank you, Madam Secretary. [0:06:26, 0:06:29]: I need a motion please to adopt the agenda. [0:06:33, 0:06:39]: Mr. Chairman, Anthony Admitten makes a motion to adopt. Mr. Chairman, Dave Plancher will second. [0:06:40, 0:06:47]: Thank you. It's been moved improperly second that we adopt the agenda as presented. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. [0:06:47, 0:06:50]: Uh any oppose? [0:06:50, 0:06:54]: There's no opp opposition. The vote is unanimous. Thank you. [0:06:58, 0:07:10]: You have before you the minutes of the December twenty third, twenty-first, twenty twenty three meeting. If you take a moment to peruse those if you haven't done so already. [0:07:15, 0:07:17]: I need a motion to adopt. [0:07:20, 0:07:22]: I would like to present a motion that we [0:07:22, 0:07:27]: Adopt the agenda for Thursday, december twenty first, twenty twenty three. [0:07:29, 0:07:29]: Is there a second? [0:07:31, 0:07:32]: Jada Williams second. [0:07:33, 0:07:45]: Thank you. It's been moved improperly second that we adopt the minutes of the December twenty-first, twenty twenty-three meeting. All in favor, let it be known by the sound divide. Any opposed? [0:07:47, 0:07:50]: The eyes have it, so be it. [0:07:54, 0:08:09]: Next item on the agenda is the text amendment case TX 2024-01. It's an ordinance to allow additional license and locations in the city for several type of businesses. [0:08:10, 0:08:30]: Consideration of an ordinance to amend the City of Stockbridge Code of Ordinances relating to dealers in distilled spirits, pawn shops, tire shops, used car dealerships and precious gems, also as to clarify the number of licenses available. [0:08:30, 0:08:35]: and to provide for a process for allowing additional licenses [0:08:35, 0:08:37]: Based upon census data. [0:08:40, 0:08:41]: Are you presenting? [0:08:41, 0:08:43]: Give us your name, please. [0:08:45, 0:08:48]: Would you turn the microphone on please and speak into it? [0:08:49, 0:09:01]: My name's Jordan Bukoltz. I am the GIS analyst for the city. I'm here to discuss the ordinan ch ordinance change pertaining to the issuance of licenses for distilled spirit sales. [0:09:03, 0:09:18]: Currently the code states that no additional licenses for liquor stores can be issued until the city's population reaches twenty thousand residents, at which time one additional license may be permitted for each five thousand residents over that twenty thousand threshold. [0:09:21, 0:09:28]: For reference, here is a map of the currently located four liquor stores present in the city. [0:09:29, 0:09:32]: These locations are indicated by the black stars on the map. [0:09:36, 0:09:43]: So I'm here to discuss the section of the code that is to be added in replace of title nine, chapter four, section ninety. [0:09:43, 0:09:48]: Since the population threshold of twenty thousand residents has now been met. [0:09:48, 0:09:57]: So this change applies to dealers in distilled spirits, as well as pawn shops, tire shops, used car dealerships, and precious gems. [0:09:58, 0:10:04]: For this presentation, I will be focusing on the section of the ordinance pertaining to the additional [0:10:04, 0:10:24]: Location restrictions for distilled spirits, retail licenses. So it is stated that no license shall be issued unless the store is located within 500 feet of the following five areas. And a map on the upcoming slide will show these five areas in more depth. But first, I would like to highlight [0:10:24, 0:10:35]: The applicable Georgia state law that requires the sale of spirits to be at least 100 yards from any church building or 200 yards of any school building. [0:10:36, 0:10:56]: So, this is the aforementioned map showing the five areas in which a proposed liquor store must reside according to the updated ordinance. So, you can see on the map there are also symbols showing the locations of churches and schools within the city. And on the upcoming slides, I will zoom into each of these. [0:10:56, 0:10:58]: These five locations. [0:10:59, 0:11:01]: So starting with area one. [0:11:01, 0:11:06]: These are the portions of Mount Zion Parkway and Highway one hundred thirty eight. [0:11:07, 0:11:13]: Line west of I seventy five. So we can see I seventy five up in the top right corner of this map. [0:11:16, 0:11:23]: Area two is the portions of highway one hundred-eight and north henry parkway line east of I seventy five. [0:11:24, 0:11:33]: Which you can see over on the upper left side of the map. I included a map with both the churches and schools as well as one without because it got a little busy seeing all the churches and schools up there. [0:11:36, 0:11:42]: Moving on to area three, these are the portions of Eagles Landing Parkway and Hudson Bridge Road. [0:11:43, 0:11:51]: Um this is all the way from the intersection with Highway 42 over on the right side of the map to the westmost city limits line. [0:11:55, 0:12:01]: Area four is the portions of Rock Quarry Road lying east of I seventy five. [0:12:04, 0:12:12]: And finally, area five is the portions of Jodoko Road that are at least the distance restrictions of a church and or school building. [0:12:16, 0:12:29]: And so according to the updated ordinance, two liquor stores will be added now that the population threshold has been met, and a lottery system will be in place to grant the addition of the two new licenses. [0:12:30, 0:12:43]: So you can see there is a tentative timeline for this lottery process. The ordinance adoption will take place on February 12th, and the lottery would be held at the council meeting on April 8th. [0:12:46, 0:12:52]: And this is an overview of the requirements in place for potential applicants looking to open a liquor store. [0:12:53, 0:12:58]: Um note that the last day to apply for these applicants would be April first. [0:13:00, 0:13:08]: So thank you all for your time and attention. If you have any questions, I'm happy to take them at this time or go back to any of the maps if you're curious about the areas. [0:13:08, 0:13:12]: Uh Mr. Chairman, may I speak? Go ready, yes sir. [0:13:12, 0:13:28]: Uh wha how do you conduct this lottery system? Um I don't think we have any knowledge of that. What exactly do you do for this lottery system to select whoever needs to uh acquire a liquor store license? [0:13:29, 0:13:36]: So all applicants will submit by April first and then at that council meeting on April eighth, um all applicants will be [0:13:36, 0:13:39]: It'll be written on a piece of paper, put into a bin. [0:13:39, 0:13:45]: Uh the paper needs to be folded twice, all the same size and two will be drawn from that. [0:13:45, 0:13:47]: And and who's folding the paper? [0:13:50, 0:13:52]: I can't quite remember. [0:13:53, 0:14:04]: I I I'm I'm just trying to figure out if it's systems fair or not. That's that's my really what I'm trying to find out because we really don't know how that system works. [0:14:07, 0:14:19]: Now I know you indicated all these places which you can put liquor stores, the distance and everything, but you d we don't really know how the lottery system works. [0:14:20, 0:14:23]: And that's what I'm getting at in this conversation. [0:14:25, 0:14:29]: And you may want to consider having something a little bit better than folding paper. [0:14:30, 0:14:33]: Just food for thought if you don't mind. Mhm. And that's all I gotta say. [0:14:36, 0:14:38]: Any other comments from the commission? [0:14:42, 0:14:44]: Thank you, George. Thank you. [0:14:47, 0:14:50]: At this time I will entertain a motion. [0:14:51, 0:14:55]: to approve the text amendment case T X twenty twenty four dash oh one. [0:14:57, 0:15:01]: Mr. Chairman Dave Planshin would like to make a motion to approve it. [0:15:03, 0:15:08]: Is there a second? Harrow second it. It's been moved improperly second. [0:15:09, 0:15:16]: That the text amendment case TX twenty twenty four dash oh one be approved. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. [0:15:17, 0:15:18]: Oh okay. [0:15:18, 0:15:24]: Inepposed? Does I have it? The case is approved. Thank you. [0:15:30, 0:15:32]: Next on the agenda [0:15:35, 0:15:36]: His [0:15:40, 0:15:42]: A redevelopment case [0:15:45, 0:15:50]: That entails a comprehensive plan amendment, a rezoning. [0:15:51, 0:15:55]: application and a variance application. [0:15:56, 0:16:01]: I will read all three into the record before staff presents. [0:16:02, 0:16:05]: Comprehensive plan amendment K C P [0:16:06, 0:16:11]: Dash twenty twenty three dash zero eight, located in council district four. [0:16:13, 0:16:17]: So consideration of requests for a comprehensive plan amendment. [0:16:17, 0:16:23]: To change the future land use designation of a certain property. [0:16:24, 0:16:35]: At one thirty-five and three zero five East Atlanta Road from low density mixed used to a special purpose. [0:16:37, 0:16:40]: to allow for the construction of town home development. [0:16:41, 0:16:44]: The applicant is Harold R. Singer Junior. [0:16:45, 0:16:47]: Uh Gibeon Consulting Group. [0:16:49, 0:16:55]: The property contains two parcels in land lot sixty eight of District twelve. [0:16:59, 0:17:06]: With one point six five approximate total acreage within the city limits of Stockbridge. [0:17:07, 0:17:20]: Uh one thirty five East Atlanta Roads parcel number S twenty five dash zero one zero two two zero zero zero. That parcel contains one point two eight acres, more or less. [0:17:22, 0:17:33]: The second parcel is three zero five East Atlanta Road, parcel number S twenty five z dash zero one zero two two zero zero five. [0:17:34, 0:17:39]: contains point three seven acres more or less. [0:17:42, 0:17:45]: The resulting case for the same property [0:17:47, 0:17:50]: Is a consideration of requests for rezoning. [0:17:51, 0:17:52]: [1072.6, 1076.7]: Certain property at one thirty five and one three zero five, you sit down the road. [0:17:57, 0:17:59]: From suburban residential [0:18:00, 0:18:02]: to multifamily residential. [0:18:04, 0:18:07]: to allow for the construction of town home development. [0:18:14, 0:18:15]: The variants [0:18:18, 0:18:22]: It's case vr dash twenty twenty three dash zero five. [0:18:24, 0:18:27]: Consideration of three variances. [0:18:28, 0:18:30]: For the same property. [0:18:31, 0:18:36]: To allow for the construction of a town home development, the variance requests are as follows. [0:18:37, 0:18:38]: Number one. [0:18:39, 0:18:46]: To reduce the front yard setback from the required fifty feet to fifteen feet. [0:18:48, 0:18:50]: Number two. [0:18:51, 0:18:54]: To reduce the required side yard setbacks. [0:18:55, 0:18:57]: From fifteen feet to ten feet. [0:19:00, 0:19:01]: And number three. [0:19:02, 0:19:08]: To increase the allowable maximum lot coverage from fifty percent. [0:19:08, 0:19:10]: To sixty percent. [0:19:11, 0:19:15]: Again the applicant is Harry R. Singer Jr. of Gibrion. [0:19:16, 0:19:18]: C thought in group. [0:19:20, 0:19:21]: Staff you may present. [0:19:23, 0:19:24]: Thank you, Mr. Dumas. [0:19:26, 0:19:40]: So these are the PowerPoint presentations for RZ23-09, the CP 2023-08, and the variance for 2023-05 for 135 and East Atlanta Road. [0:19:41, 0:20:01]: As mentioned, the case facts. The applicant and the owner is Sylvain Capital of Ventures. I mean Capital Ventures. The agent is Mr. Harold R. Singer Jr. of Gibeon Consulting Group. The number of proposed units per acre is 16.36 units per acre. As mentioned, the address of the property is 135 and 305. [0:20:01, 0:20:21]: East Atlanta Road and the number of acres is 1.65 acres. The project characteristics, there is an existing single-family residence on the property. The city land use designation is low density mixed use, and the current zoning is SR, which is suburban residential, and the sign was posted on January 4th, 2024. [0:20:24, 0:20:40]: This is the vicinity map. The surrounding subdivisions in the vicinity area are the Spanish Village Subdivision and the HH Duval subdivisions, which are located right here. The Diamante Townhomes development is 0.7 miles away. [0:20:42, 0:20:53]: Which is up here. And and the recently approved townhomes located at fifty five Ballet Hill Road is point six miles away. And the amphitheater is point three miles away. [0:20:57, 0:21:06]: And this is the aerial photo of the prop property. The one in blue is 135 East Atlanta Road, and the one in red is 305 East Atlanta Road. [0:21:10, 0:21:13]: And this is the aerial photo with the site plan with the proposed townhomes located. [0:21:18, 0:21:28]: And this is the f site business that was done on January fourth, twenty twenty four, with the existing house. Um there is an existing driveway in that area and this is the side where it's posted. [0:21:32, 0:21:47]: And this is the site um this is from adjacent from the property, which is a church at Stockbridge, uh Lacey Hawk is minister, and this is a building with the three businesses adjacent as well, which is Herbal Roots LLC, DNJ Printing, and TDK Designs. [0:21:51, 0:21:54]: And now we're into the presentation for the comprehensive plan amendment. [0:21:57, 0:22:03]: The applicant's request is to change the future land use designation from low density mixed use to special purpose. [0:22:06, 0:22:26]: And this is the meant this is what is mentioned in the comprehensive plan amendment, in which it states that the designation has been developed to allow for special innovative projects which could include anything from different model residential to larger mixed use or commercial development. Since the applicant is building townhomes on smaller lots, the special purpose future land use [0:22:26, 0:22:27]: Designation will be compatible. [0:22:31, 0:22:38]: And this is the joint zoning map of the parcels. This is 135 East Atlanta Road, and this is three oh five East Atlanta Road. [0:22:43, 0:22:53]: And this is the joint overlay map of the parcels. Uh one hundred thirty five East Atlanta Road is located here and three oh five East Atlanta Road is not part of the uh Parkway mixed use overlay district. [0:22:56, 0:23:05]: And this is the joint future land use map showing the uh 135 East Atlanta Road and 305 East Atlanta Road as part of the low density mix use. [0:23:09, 0:23:29]: This is the surrounding land use designation. The property to the north is low density mixed use. The property to the south, which is a daycare daycare center, is in the downtown, is in the downtown district. Property to the east is just the single-family residences, is low density mixed use. Property to the west, which is the church, an existing home. [0:23:29, 0:23:34]: is medium density residential for the church and the existing family residence is is in downtown district. [0:23:36, 0:23:46]: And this is the surrounding land use densities. Um it ranges from six point two units per acre for the DR Horton Town homes located at fifty-five Valley Hill Road. [0:23:47, 0:23:52]: And the lowest, which is the Spanish Villa subdivision, which is twenty eight units, and it's one a half units per acre. [0:23:56, 0:24:05]: Um, this is the project information. The applicant proposes to build a townhome development with 27 units, with five guest parking spaces, and a mill kiosk. [0:24:07, 0:24:09]: And this will be further discussed in the rezoning. [0:24:12, 0:24:32]: So we did a staff analysis, and the key points from the staff report is that the special land use designations is compatible with all the zoning districts, which includes the requested MFR district. It is consistent with the housing goals and policies, and the housing goals, which is mentioned here, is to provide. [0:24:32, 0:24:52]: Additional housing in the downtown core downtown core and the housing policies that's closer within the Compline that the proposed townhomes will meet is to preserve and enhance older existing neighborhoods by promoting rehabilitation of existing stock and infill of new development to revitalize established neighborhoods. [0:24:56, 0:25:13]: The property is suitable since it will provide housing options for the residents who are interested in living close to the downtown area. In addition, the townhomes are within walking distance of both the amphitheater and the downtown area and is within distance of the Clark Community Park. [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: And staff recommends approval for the Complet Amendment. [0:25:25, 0:25:30]: And on the next slide, the next presentation will be on the Rizona case, R C twenty three oh nine. [0:25:40, 0:25:48]: The applicant's request is a reson from SR, suburban residential, to MFR, multifamily residential, to allow for the uh townhome development. [0:25:52, 0:26:01]: This is the uh the site plan with the parcels labeled. The site the properties were combined as part of the re-recombination plan process that took place last year. [0:26:05, 0:26:08]: And this is the side plan showing the twenty seven units. [0:26:16, 0:26:19]: This is the develop development data summary for the site plan. [0:26:26, 0:26:33]: And this is the exteriors the exterior elevations. Um they will have a two car garage and it has a front elevation of brick. [0:26:38, 0:26:44]: And on the side as well, this is on the side, and this is the view from when you enter into the uh into the townhomes. [0:26:44, 0:26:44]: Yeah. [0:26:50, 0:27:03]: And on this slide, the twenty twelve Lib Livable Centers Initiative Study labels the surrounding area of the subject property as growth center, where growth is highly recommended. And as you can see, the property is part of that growth area. [0:27:09, 0:27:21]: In addition, the property is part of the TAD, which is the tax allocation district, which is designed to attract quality development to the distressed redevelopment area. And as you can see, the property is part of that. [0:27:26, 0:27:31]: And on this slide, these are the sample of the townhomes that are that will be desirable in the city of Stockbridge. [0:27:33, 0:27:33]: These are samples? [0:27:39, 0:27:54]: And now we go into the project description. The applicant proposes to build a twenty-seven unit townhome development at a density of sixteen point three six units per acre on one point six five acres of land at 105, 135 and 305 East Helena Road. [0:27:56, 0:28:07]: The units will be three bedrooms and the size of the twenty-seven lots are eighteen hundred square feet with fifty-nine parking spaces that will be provided for the residents, and that includes the kiosk. [0:28:13, 0:28:20]: The key points to take away from the staff report that we did was that it's compatible with the goals of the comp plan as mentioned. [0:28:20, 0:28:23]: Uh which is to provide additional houses in the downtown core. [0:28:24, 0:28:36]: And it also fits with the policy of the comp plan, which is to preserve and enhance the older existing neighborhoods by promoting rehabilitation of existing housing stock and infill of new development. [0:28:44, 0:28:49]: And it also fits a special purpose district since the applicant is building townhomes on smaller lots. [0:28:52, 0:29:02]: And it's c it is compatible with the sixteen units, sixteen point zero one units and twenty four units per acre that is required for the special purpose district. [0:29:05, 0:29:25]: In addition, it is consistent with the UDC. It meets the MFR density requirements, which is 14 units per acre. And it also meets the criteria of the Parkour Mixed Use Overlay District, which is to improve public health and to provide safe and efficient movement within the overlay district by promoting the development. [0:29:25, 0:29:30]: development patterns that encourage physical activity such as walking and bicycling. [0:29:34, 0:29:47]: And the potential if positive effects, the downtown area has not seen any residential growth while other areas in the city have seen significant growth. Thus, this will serve as a catalyst for future development in the downtown area. [0:29:51, 0:29:59]: And there is a need for a housing stock in the downtown area, so it will provide an alternative type of housing that what currently exists in the vicinity. [0:30:01, 0:30:11]: And many of the townhomes in both the Spanish village subdivision and the H H Dival subdivision were built from the nineteen twenties to recently as two thousand six. [0:30:14, 0:30:24]: And the L CI LCI study and the downtown residential retail market analysis that was conducted by Georgia Tech encourages growth in the downtown area. [0:30:33, 0:30:53]: And the LCI did state that it should provide pres appropriate transitions between new development and existing neighborhoods. In addition, it did say that these could include conventional techniques such as buffer or innovative site plan that uses small lot, single family houses, or townhomes to make the transition. [0:30:53, 0:30:56]: Which includes this the third part which says transitional use. [0:31:01, 0:31:13]: And it will provide walking distance for the residents from the amphitheater, downtown area and the clock park, and it'll incorporate new urban cent urbanism concept by having the frontage of the townhomes to the sidewalk. [0:31:21, 0:31:22]: Yeah, just as uh [0:31:24, 0:31:44]: And it says also in the LCI that to position stop bridge for changing local and regional and national market demographic trends, particularly the needs of aging residents and the so-called millennium millennials, the downtown must be revitalized in a way that builds on historic character and position as is it is as a walkable [0:31:44, 0:31:50]: Mixed use alternative to surrounding areas, many of which will be less suitable to these changes. [0:31:53, 0:32:13]: And the size of the parcels won't allow development of the townhomes. Thus the applicant has submitted three variances, which will be heard in the next presentation. And that water service is available for the subject property. However, it says that the letters did state that the reservation of capacity will expire if the plans are not submitted. [0:32:13, 0:32:16]: within one year, which is January twenty second, twenty twenty five. [0:32:18, 0:32:32]: And on this map, it does this shows the distance from Clark Community Park, which is 0.5 miles, the distance to the downtown area, which is 0.3 miles, and the distance to the amphitheater. So it does prov it will provide walking distance. [0:32:38, 0:32:58]: Staff recommend staff recommendation. The staff approves approval with conditions to rezone the subject property from SR to MFR with the conditions that includes that a 10-foot sidewalk shall be established across the frontage. The proposed development shall include a two-car garage. The proposed townhome shall be constructed according to design. [0:32:58, 0:33:18]: Which is similar to the one that is shown on the applicant submitted site plan entitled Preliminary Site for 135 East Town Homes, which is prepared by Y Studio, dated August 20th, 2023, and represented on the sheet number A-0.1. The project will be in conformance with the Cedar Stockbridge Unified Development Code. [0:33:18, 0:33:29]: and other city code sections regarding the site development standards and other requirements that are found, and that the townhomes shall be comprised of brick, stone, cement-based siding, and shake siding. [0:33:34, 0:33:37]: And now we're going on to the variance twenty twenty three dash zero five. [0:33:39, 0:33:59]: As mentioned, the applicant request is requesting three variances from the MFR development regulations found in the UDC. These variances, as shown in the table, which is next, are as follows: which is reduce the front yard setback from 50 to 15 feet, reduce the required side yard setback from 15 to 10 feet, and increase the allowable maximum coverage. [0:33:59, 0:34:01]: average from fifty to sixty percent. [0:34:04, 0:34:24]: And these are the district standards. Um MFR requires front yard setback to be 15, the side yard setback to be 15 feet, and the maximum locker average to be 50. However, as shown in the green, the applicant wants to reduce this from 15 to 15 feet, the side yard to 10 feet, and the maximum locker average to 16. [0:34:24, 0:34:25]: Sixty percent. [0:34:28, 0:34:48]: The key points to take away from the staff report, the staff analysis, is that the size of the subject property is 1.65 acres, which is uniquely small compared to the other recently approved townhomes, which can be shown on in this table. The lot width is 104 feet, which is small, and overall these factors make it extremely [0:34:48, 0:34:51]: difficult for the developer to build the townhomes. [0:34:56, 0:35:16]: The variance meets the purpose and intent of the UDC since it would encourage the most appropriate land use of the subject property, which would be the townhomes. The reduction of the front yard setback from fifty to fifteen feet will be advantageous since the proposed townhomes are located in the downtown area and will provide walking distance for the subject. [0:35:16, 0:35:19]: [2119.2, 2129.8]: And due to the size of the property, the applicant may be deprived of the ability to develop a townhome community that is similar to the sizes of the other townhomes that are found in the MFR district. [0:35:33, 0:35:38]: And staff recommends approval for the variance. And that concludes the uh presentation. [0:35:40, 0:35:43]: May I speak. Any questions for [0:35:45, 0:35:51]: Stay. May I speak, Mr. Chairman? Go ready, yes sir. Uh what is the tax [0:35:51, 0:35:54]: Allocation district what [0:35:54, 0:35:57]: What does that that mean, if you don't mind? [0:36:05, 0:36:07]: Just a parcel that you know. [0:36:08, 0:36:10]: That's really the last problem. [0:36:10, 0:36:11]: Uh uh. [0:36:27, 0:36:28]: Any other questions from staff? [0:36:31, 0:36:42]: Well well he never did answer my question. I asked him what was the allocation district. What is that? [0:36:42, 0:36:43]: Yes. [0:36:49, 0:36:50]: Parts will I do them. [0:36:51, 0:36:55]: I mean is there some reduction or anything? I mean [0:37:02, 0:37:03]: Okay and that [0:37:05, 0:37:08]: Yeah, would that be for collection? But when you say a district [0:37:09, 0:37:16]: That means something else to me. Yeah, you you have tax allocation district. What is that? [0:37:18, 0:37:18]: No. [0:37:20, 0:37:30]: that the city uh recently introduced downtown as a special taxing purpose to increase the revenue for uh to improve down to use the revenue. [0:37:33, 0:37:34]: Okay. Is [0:37:40, 0:37:41]: [2262.0, 2265.4]: So is that a reduced tax? No, it's actually [0:37:47, 0:37:47]: Okay. [0:37:51, 0:37:52]: All right, thank you. [0:37:56, 0:37:58]: Any other questions for Staya? [0:37:59, 0:38:06]: Go right of here, sir. I have a couple of questions. Um, what are the anticipated values of these townhomes going to be? What do you think they will sell for? [0:38:07, 0:38:09]: Question. Do you say that till that can come? [0:38:10, 0:38:11]: That's that we don't know that's the [0:38:12, 0:38:13]: Okay. [0:38:14, 0:38:19]: So the applicant wan the the applicant answered that question, so you can come up. [0:38:22, 0:38:26]: Before the applicant comes, I I wanna make sure there were no other questions for staff. [0:38:29, 0:38:37]: Thank you, Mr. Linton. Applicant, please come forward, state your name and address, and make your presentation. [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: Yes, sir. [0:38:43, 0:38:43]: Come again. [0:38:46, 0:38:50]: Before the staff before the applicant presents? [0:38:54, 0:38:57]: Okay. Hold on just a second, sir. [0:39:01, 0:39:04]: This case requires a public hearing. [0:39:06, 0:39:08]: And I will now convene the public hearing. [0:39:10, 0:39:30]: I have a few housekeeping chores that I must present to you before we get started. Uh the rules are as follows. Please mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak on a public hearing item, please fill out a form available on the table. [0:39:30, 0:39:35]: table and hand it to the Secretary before approaching the podium. [0:39:37, 0:39:51]: After each case is called, the commission will hear from city staff, followed by the applicant or their representatives regarding the proposed plans for the property along with other relevant information. [0:39:53, 0:39:56]: The commission will be free to ask questions anytime before the vote. [0:39:58, 0:40:08]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak for, in favor, or opposed to the case will have the opportunity to do so. [0:40:10, 0:40:13]: Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. [0:40:15, 0:40:18]: Additional time may be extended at the discretion of the commission. [0:40:21, 0:40:29]: Please keep comments and presentations professional by referring only to the facts that are pertinent in the case. [0:40:31, 0:40:37]: We will uh not we will not allow comments or personal attacks toward the inner individual or group. [0:40:39, 0:40:45]: Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:40:47, 0:40:51]: After the presiding officer recognized the speaker [0:40:53, 0:40:55]: That would be me, the presiding officer. [0:40:57, 0:41:17]: I will direct all comments, I mean the speaker will direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the commission, staff, or the audience. All comments should be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. [0:41:19, 0:41:22]: Please note these hearings are not a debate. [0:41:24, 0:41:34]: Fail to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the billing of law enforcement if you deviate from these procedures. [0:41:36, 0:41:40]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. [0:41:41, 0:41:53]: The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. [0:41:55, 0:42:01]: If questions are raised, the commission will ask the applicant to address these questions and concerns. [0:42:04, 0:42:10]: The presiding officer will call for a motion and a second to the motion and have any necessary discussion. [0:42:12, 0:42:19]: If the matter is not tabled, the presiding office will call for a vote to recommend approval or denial. [0:42:23, 0:42:25]: So you may come for it, please. [0:42:27, 0:42:28]: State your name and address. [0:42:30, 0:42:39]: Good evening. My name is Harold Singer. My address is 4034 Lionsgate, Douglasville, Georgia, 30135. [0:42:40, 0:42:58]: Good evening, members of the commission. Um as was stated before, we're here on behalf of the uh proposed development at 135 and 305 East uh Town Home Development. My name is Harold Singer. I am the uh the applicant on this this project. [0:42:58, 0:42:59]: Um [0:42:59, 0:43:07]: The owner is in presence here. His name is Mr. Reginald Sullivan. Um, he's a longtime business uh member of the community. [0:43:08, 0:43:16]: Uh the developers for this project is are Mr. Derek Harris and Celine Morrissey. They make up our emergent development. They are here as well. [0:43:16, 0:43:28]: In addition, we have one of our design professional teams here, Mr. Lewis Juan, that can field any technical questions. Uh the staff did an excellent job of surmising um the the [0:43:29, 0:43:49]: P pertinent information about the townhomes 135-305 East Atlanta, approximately 1.65 acres. We're proposing to rezone it from suburban residential to multifamily residential. We're proposing three 27 three-story townhomes. There's a rezoning, a land use amendment. [0:43:49, 0:43:50]: And uh three [0:43:51, 0:43:55]: Variances that we're requesting to be able to move forward with the development. [0:43:56, 0:44:05]: This is the site plan was already uh put up on the side. As you can see, um the limitations with the existing site, um we're looking to [0:44:05, 0:44:10]: Maximize the site to to bring uh a quality product to the [0:44:10, 0:44:12]: The the community. [0:44:12, 0:44:20]: Um with the hardscape, the on-site parking, the kiosk, things of that nature. That's how we get to the the [0:44:20, 0:44:23]: lot coverage higher than what the allowable is. [0:44:25, 0:44:36]: Um this is a a a rendering. I think it was brought up earlier. Um we're looking to bring a quality product to this development to you know enhance the the downtown city stockbridge area. [0:44:37, 0:44:39]: There's another rendering here. [0:44:39, 0:44:59]: This is a front elevation which will consist of uh as was stated brick front, cementus siding. Um the project was designed to maximize the fenestration, to utilize natural light. Um we have several places for people to um kind of go outside. [0:44:59, 0:45:11]: on on on multiple levels of the property. That's the front elevation. This is the rear. As you can see they have rear entry double uh two-car garages uh with um [0:45:12, 0:45:14]: Decks that protrude out, um [0:45:15, 0:45:15]: Let's see here. [0:45:16, 0:45:21]: Here's a side elevation for the the end units that would have an additional box balcony. [0:45:22, 0:45:38]: Um with that, um the first question I think that was posed, what would be the price point at this point um is preliminary as we continue to go through this process with Stockbridge, but our our plans are to have a uh starting price point at 300,000. [0:45:40, 0:45:49]: So with that I'll yield to any questions. Um and you know, whoever is appropriate to respond, either myself or the developers, owners and or the [0:45:50, 0:45:52]: design professional will respond accordingly. [0:45:53, 0:45:55]: Any questions for the applicant? [0:45:56, 0:46:09]: Mr. Chairman, I have some questions. So about the three hundred K, so how did you come up with that? Did you go to a radius in a county, other uh like communities? How did you come up with that pricing? [0:46:09, 0:46:29]: Well, I mean we're looking at the development costs. Of course we're looking at the marketplace and based on those factors, uh, we feel like um a starting point at 300K, uh it would keep us in line with the market. We we don't want to get too far ahead of our ourselves. The point is to bring some diversity in how [0:46:29, 0:46:44]: housing to this area and we feel that that would be a good price point for you know either people looking to buy their first home or people looking to still be on the south side of Metro Atlanta but then being somewhat of an urban area. [0:46:44, 0:46:47]: Okay. Two more questions. Um [0:46:47, 0:46:54]: So I'm sure that the uh surrounding homeowners will be concerned, but what type of buffer do you intend to put between the existing homes? [0:46:54, 0:46:55]: in the new development. [0:46:56, 0:47:16]: Well, I mean, one of the things that we're asking for is a variance. Um, you know, as we go through this process, we're open to uh dialogue with the staff and community. Um we we look to do some extensive landscaping, um whether that be a fence, whether it be natural uh buffer as far as trees. [0:47:16, 0:47:36]: Trees, fencing, things of that nature. Given the size of the lot, there's not a lot we could do, but we're open to suggestions in terms of being creative. To um, you know, these towns are designed not to be overwhelming, but to fit in the character of which we feel is. [0:47:36, 0:47:48]: is a a center that is close to a downtown area. And as the city of Stockbridge grows, we feel like the development that we're proposing will meet that growth. Okay. [0:47:48, 0:48:05]: And the last question is, um, aside from tonight, have you had the opportunity to speak with the community about No, we have not. What we did was met the requirement to send out mailings uh to the adjacent property owners. Uh we're we're definitely open to that. Um [0:48:05, 0:48:16]: You know, as we come out of post COVID, th I know this is probably one of the few and and more and more going to in person meetings, but we're definitely opening to engaging with the community. [0:48:17, 0:48:18]: Very good, thank you. That's all I have. Thank you. [0:48:20, 0:48:22]: Any other questions from Sarah? [0:48:23, 0:48:26]: Okay. May I speak, Mr. Chairman? Go ready, yes, sir. [0:48:26, 0:48:46]: Uh have you uh spoken to any of the homeowners? Have they sent you any letters pertaining to this development? And my second question is uh crime or are you gonna have HOA uh when you build these townhomes? Yeah, there'll there'll be an [0:48:46, 0:49:06]: HOA um we haven't spoken to any community outside of the the mandated posting uh that we require with registered mail. But as I stated, we're willing and and open to having those dialogues and questions. We want to be uh incorporated in the fabric of the community. Um have there been [0:49:06, 0:49:20]: any response to you since you sent all the mailing out. Has anybody communicated with you from the community? Is my question. No, sir. We have not gotten any uh feedback from those mailings. Well thank you. Yes sir. [0:49:21, 0:49:25]: Anyone else? Uh yes, Mr. Chair. I had uh two questions. [0:49:25, 0:49:40]: Uh a few actually, but some of which you've already answered. I know you said you didn't have any community meetings just yet. Have you uh attempted to have any meetings with the school system in that area? Uh Heron County School system, I know it's Stockbridge, elementary and the high school in that area, Woodland as well. [0:49:41, 0:49:55]: No, we have not. Those are those are uh discussions that as I stated we're willing to have. I know Mr. S Sylvan is a uh a noted member in the community and and that those meetings and and outreach is uh [0:49:56, 0:50:11]: in process. I think we we met the deadline in December and that this was the first meeting um that we were available to come to you all. So, you know, those discussions are are definitely uh something that we're open to. [0:50:11, 0:50:18]: Thank you. Uh one more question, Mr. Chair. Um I'm looking at the map. If you can go back to the uh the map of the in entire site. [0:50:20, 0:50:23]: Oh wait, say player. That one's fine, yeah. [0:50:24, 0:50:26]: Is it only one? Um [0:50:28, 0:50:48]: Access point of egress is that the one in the front? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That there's there's one way in, one way out at this point. I know that there's been some preliminary discussions with the fire department. And you know, this is our initial design. Um we we're really looking to staff to kind of give us some feedback as [0:50:48, 0:51:04]: as to what they felt was appropriate. Of course, we know we have to engage with the fire department for life safety, but you know, given some of the limitations with the site and the density that we look for, that that's what we initially are proposing. [0:51:05, 0:51:25]: Okay. Uh I definitely want you to go back and kinda see um how we can add some environmental friendly like greenery. I like how you said the buffer of greenery. That would be a great option I would suggest to you. But I will also suggest because I know our chief of uh fire, he's he's gonna fight you about that one uh one way in, one way out. Settled. So I definitely want you [0:51:25, 0:51:27]: to look into that um as well. That's all, Mr. Chair. [0:51:28, 0:51:29]: Thank you. [0:51:30, 0:51:40]: I have a question for you. Yes, sir. How comfortable are you with spreading the upkeep and maintenance costs? [0:51:43, 0:51:46]: over such a small number of owners [0:51:47, 0:51:52]: With the small H O A. Sure. We want to field that question. Excuse me. [0:51:52, 0:52:00]: Uh I just want to respond to um Commissioner uh Williams. Uh we have had discussions with Could you talk into the microphone, please? [0:52:00, 0:52:15]: Yes, uh I just want to respond to your question. We have had conversations with Chief Wells and the fire trucks are able to get in and come out. So uh we otherwise we would not be presenting it as is. So we have addressed that issue as well. [0:52:16, 0:52:19]: Excuse me, sir, would you give your name and address and fill out a sheet? [0:52:21, 0:52:28]: Okay. You want my name now or you want me to fill it out first? Okay, Regis Sylvan, one thirty nine Bay Berry Hills. [0:52:34, 0:52:34]: Yes. [0:52:43, 0:53:03]: And and to your question, um, you know, the market is what it is. I think um with these developments, it's always a challenge um to be where you need to be in the marketplace and not o overprice yourself. Uh I was just having that discussion prior to coming here. A lot of uh these small [0:53:03, 0:53:23]: Smaller townhome developments and multifamily developments have gone away from the amendments, amenities, if you will, because those things tend to increase the cost. Um, but as it is right now, based on our preliminary duck numbers, we feel that the cost of maintaining this site, given that it is a smaller site, would be [0:53:23, 0:53:26]: distributed in a way to not make it be cost prohibitive. [0:53:28, 0:53:46]: Well, your lack of amenities is glaring, I will say. But just for the example, repaving the parking lot could be very cost prohibitive for such a small number of owners. And that's I'm just trying to gauge your comfort level with doing that to people. [0:53:50, 0:54:04]: Yeah, I mean those are things to definitely consider. I I think uh with that type of capital improvement we're probably looking ten to fifteen, maybe twenty years down the road. Doesn't matter. Right. Steel Stockbridge. Citizens. [0:54:05, 0:54:07]: that would be um impacted and affected. [0:54:11, 0:54:22]: I mean we're dealing with things now that people did ten, twenty years ago that didn't make a lot of sense doesn't make a lot of sense now, uh wasn't present then, but we still having to deal with. [0:54:25, 0:54:29]: Like tow trucks riding through people's neighborhoods. [0:54:30, 0:54:31]: Poor planning. [0:54:33, 0:54:34]: Yes, sir. [0:54:43, 0:54:46]: I just wanna gauge his comfort level with doing what he needs to do to make it happen. [0:54:53, 0:55:08]: Anyone else have questions? Yes, yes, Mr. Chairman, I've got a couple more questions. Yes, sir. Um do you envision this as being a primarily an adult um living arrangement, or do you anticipate families with kids would move in here also? [0:55:10, 0:55:22]: Yeah, a adults, young professionals. Uh I mean of course, you know, this is America we're open to, you know, anyone that wants to live there, but it probably would be more marketed towards uh young professionals. [0:55:23, 0:55:25]: Small families, if you will. [0:55:25, 0:55:45]: And maintenance as far as the ground keeping go, what little grounds there's gonna be of it, is that gonna be maintained via the association or the HOA or is individual owners gonna be responsible for maintaining their own little piece of dirt? No, that that will be um as was stated earlier, be part of their a their HOA fees, you know, part of [0:55:45, 0:55:49]: [3349.9, 3363.1]: attractive now is that that that you know, they don't have to worry about those things. And I have one more question. I don't see on the map any ingress or egress. Where is the road actually going to be and where is it going to connect to? [0:56:04, 0:56:06]: Um okay. [0:56:06, 0:56:23]: We're going to certainly meet all of the requirements uh that are necessary. Right now we're just trying to um present this uh project to you guys to take it from single family to multifamily, but we will certainly meet all of the requirements that are set forward. [0:56:27, 0:56:30]: Did that satisfy your question, Mr. Plation? [0:56:31, 0:56:33]: I'm finished like you. [0:56:34, 0:56:38]: If there are no further question, thank you, uh Mr. Singer, Mr. Sylvain. [0:56:39, 0:56:41]: Thank you, uh members of the commission. [0:56:44, 0:56:48]: We will now open this case up for public comment. [0:56:49, 0:56:51]: And the way we're gonna do that, we're gonna [0:56:53, 0:57:08]: Ask first if anyone's present who's in favor of it that you fill out a form if you haven't already done so, form a line and approach a podium, give your name and address, and speak. [0:57:10, 0:57:12]: Are there anyone in favor? [0:57:28, 0:57:35]: Good evening. Again, I'm Reggie Savan. I'm the owner of the property and certainly I'm in favor of it. Um [0:57:37, 0:57:40]: I've been in the area for roughly about thirty years right now. [0:57:40, 0:57:48]: I've seen the downtown area what it is today. I've seen it like this the last 20 plus years. Um [0:57:49, 0:58:05]: If we're looking to bring density to the downtown area, we have to welcome established uh developments like this. Otherwise, the next twenty years we're going to still see what we're seeing today. So again, I'm not sure if [0:58:06, 0:58:14]: We are I'm not sure why someone would be against it other than they don't want to see growth in a downtown area. [0:58:15, 0:58:35]: And I've been developing and buying properties in the downtown, well in Stockbridge since 1998. But downtown in particular, over the last two years, I've purchased at least seven properties in this area. And I've purchased it because Stockbridge is [0:58:35, 0:58:37]: your largest city in Henry County. [0:58:37, 0:58:39]: But we're the furthest behind. [0:58:40, 0:58:41]: You look at McDonough. [0:58:41, 0:58:43]: Well developed downtown area. [0:58:44, 0:58:48]: Hampton, well developed, locust grove. So the question is [0:58:49, 0:58:56]: Do we want to remain where we are right now or do we want to move forward? So that's why I'm in favor of it. Thank you. [0:58:56, 0:58:58]: Thank you, sir. [0:59:01, 0:59:08]: I will now entertain those folks who are in opposition to this development. [0:59:10, 0:59:17]: I'm sorry. I'm in favor also. You're in favor also. Come state your name and address police. [0:59:19, 0:59:39]: My name is Derek Harris, and uh I'm one of the developers um for uh the project. Um though I'm not a resident of Stockbridge, I am a longtime resident. Um I've grew up in South Fulton. I've lived in Clayton County, so I still feel like this is part of the South um side of Atlanta community that I've been. [0:59:39, 0:59:59]: part of my whole life. So I know all about Stockbridge. I've been uh here, um watched it grow, watched it not grow. Um and and uh you know I'm I come to the amphitheater um and I just don't see uh any amenity amenities or um you know restaurants and [0:59:58, 1:00:15]: different things here in the in the community. Um, you know, after the shows, you guys have invested lots of money into this community with the art center. I mean with the uh performing art center, the amphitheater and and so forth. And uh the way you get restaurants, um [1:00:16, 1:00:20]: entertainment, different things like that into a community is through density. [1:00:20, 1:00:30]: And I think this is a uh great product to put here to uh increase the density and to draw uh businesses into the to the downtown corridor. [1:00:34, 1:00:34]: Thank you. [1:00:35, 1:00:36]: True. Thank you, sir. [1:00:41, 1:00:42]: Anyone else in favor? [1:00:44, 1:00:44]: Yeah. [1:00:47, 1:00:51]: Now we'll entertain opposition comments. [1:00:53, 1:00:54]: Same rules apply. [1:01:10, 1:01:18]: Hello, um, I'm Connie Snow, 426, Chase, Miriam Waite, McDonough, Georgia, uh 30253. [1:01:19, 1:01:39]: I'm against this project. I feel like we have way too much development going on in Stockbridge and in Henry County alone. Currently we have, I think, maybe three or four multiple multiple property developments in progress right now that Stockbridge has already approved, and yet we still don't have a solid infrastructure for as yet. [1:01:39, 1:01:59]: Additionally, if this is approved, it looks like you guys are going to allow them to apply for TAD. And if I'm correct in saying that TAD does help with some of the developers' costs, that's part of it. And it also increases the property owners' taxes. I don't think it's fair that we keep having to suffer the brunt as property owners in either Henry County or Stockbridge. [1:01:59, 1:02:08]: Because a developer wants to build. Additionally, I think there's a park close to the area. Was there any research done on the impact of that park in that area? [1:02:08, 1:02:28]: Uh and then one more thing. Uh Gibeon, who is I guess the developer over this community, according to Georgia State Records, their business license is dissolved and not active as recently as September of twenty twenty three. So I do also believe if you guys are going to approve it, we need to make sure that we're using development companies or [1:02:28, 1:02:33]: vendors who are in compliance with Georgia law and have active licenses. Thank you. [1:02:46, 1:03:03]: Good evening. My name is Ann Fields. I'm at uh three twenty nine Chase Marion Way, um McDonough, Georgia. Can I have a question? Um the L sixteen parcel that's in between the um townhome nineteen and twenty. [1:03:04, 1:03:13]: Um what it what is that area on the drawing? It's a blank area. There's no townhome there. And it's twenty feet wide. [1:03:17, 1:03:37]: Go ahead with your STO comments and we'll have the applicant answer your question when we finish. Okay, thank you. Um so my concern was already brought up by um Mr. Williams in regards to um the entrance and the uh and another side exit for the fire safety. Um my second concern is uh center. [1:03:37, 1:03:50]: Around trash pickup and the variance allowance for the the front and b and and e the rear setbacks off the rear of the townhomes. So because these townhomes have no real yards to them. [1:03:51, 1:03:54]: I'm wondering where the garbage can placement would be. [1:03:55, 1:04:15]: Um it doesn't look from the drawing or the discussion that there would be a dumpster pickup for this small community. So if it would be individual trash cans, are those going to be hauled to the street all simultaneously by twenty-seven various people, or how is garbage going to be handled? [1:04:15, 1:04:24]: Handled here. So then that takes me to my concern about where do they store the cans, pest control for that. [1:04:25, 1:04:40]: issue of of twenty-seven or more garbage cans um and very little space. Um if if that's not a dog park between nineteen and twenty, um, being that these are for sale and not an apartment, [1:04:41, 1:04:49]: uh rental units, um, then my concern would be it is a little bit of a distance, especially in extreme heat. [1:04:49, 1:04:50]: Or rain. [1:04:51, 1:05:08]: to get to the public park facilities so anyone with animals would have uh little to no green space for animal excrement and what would be the policy of such a small community regarding uh animal excrement pickup. Um [1:05:09, 1:05:29]: And the other concern I wanted to voice was um planning and zonings overall, granting of variances. Where I came from a variance was a very difficult challenge. And it had to really, really be proven. And there seems to be a lot of variances being granted. [1:05:29, 1:05:49]: granted for these setbacks, um, front, rear sides, all of it. Um, I'm just a little concerned with the overall aesthetic that we're we're giving on all of our projects, not just this one, but just overall. Um, the look and feel of allowing something to be so close to the sidewalk. [1:05:48, 1:05:50]: The look and feel [1:05:50, 1:06:10]: to the existing homeowners whose properties are being in encroached upon with very small setbacks for the for the their sides and rear where they abut up to existing homeowners property. So I'd like you guys to consider uh what's going on with variance applications. [1:06:10, 1:06:20]: for for for the setbacks. Um and if you can start considering some of the more prominent needs that we know will impact all of us. [1:06:21, 1:06:41]: Like the garbage. W obviously Mr. Williams was very concerned as I am with the public safety aspect of these new developments. Um, having a safe way in and a safe way out for our firefighters, for our ambulance drivers, and of course for any garbage pickup that has to occur. So you're not waking people up at three AM with [1:06:41, 1:06:58]: with a truck with his rear beepers on for the entire length of a development to back out of something. But we need to look at pest control and enforcement of pest control and animal excrement for any pets as a whole. We don't want that to get out of hand. Thank you. [1:06:58, 1:06:59]: Thank you, man. [1:07:02, 1:07:05]: Mr. Gideons, Mr Sylvain. I'm sorry. [1:07:06, 1:07:07]: Come right up, sir. [1:07:15, 1:07:21]: Good evening. My name is Benarvis Johnson Senior. My address is three zero five South Spear Road, Stockbridge, Georgia. [1:07:21, 1:07:23]: Original of Henry County, born and raised. [1:07:24, 1:07:26]: I'm opposed with this um project. [1:07:27, 1:07:28]: For one as being [1:07:30, 1:07:33]: A young resident who's looking to become a homeowner. [1:07:34, 1:07:37]: And for something that small, tight and close. [1:07:38, 1:07:39]: It's like clutter. [1:07:39, 1:07:43]: And to sit here and to have that price range. [1:07:44, 1:07:49]: to sit here and say it's for families with no space or yard for you can actually go out. [1:07:50, 1:07:53]: And not have to deal with traffic and so forth. [1:07:54, 1:07:56]: As well as I said, we already have clutter. [1:07:56, 1:08:00]: We already have the villains already going on, which is creating more clutter. [1:08:01, 1:08:03]: And to sit here and look at a property like that. [1:08:04, 1:08:10]: That two houses can be put on with reasonable size as well as space for a young family. [1:08:11, 1:08:12]: Too calm. [1:08:12, 1:08:13]: And and live there. [1:08:14, 1:08:15]: For that price. [1:08:17, 1:08:17]: And so [1:08:18, 1:08:21]: That's why I am against this project. [1:08:21, 1:08:22]: Because again. [1:08:23, 1:08:24]: How it was stated. [1:08:25, 1:08:26]: One way in, one way out. [1:08:27, 1:08:29]: Accidents happen, a lot of things happen. [1:08:31, 1:08:35]: And it's just that clutter, especially with trash pick up for all so many units. [1:08:36, 1:08:36]: And then [1:08:37, 1:08:41]: The type of residence that are coming in каседер із спас хір. [1:08:41, 1:08:43]: In the downtown area. [1:08:44, 1:08:52]: And to just sit here and just like I said, there's already developments going on, which is already gonna be bringing in more residents. [1:08:52, 1:08:53]: And so forth. [1:08:54, 1:08:58]: So that's why I am against this project because honestly for that property. [1:08:58, 1:09:03]: Ак рада сі твої хвороби вид спис. [1:09:04, 1:09:14]: for a family to come as well as to sit here and say, well, hey, this is where I would like to be in the downtown area of Stockbridge, as well as a resident of the Henry County. [1:09:14, 1:09:15]: Family. [1:09:16, 1:09:20]: That's all I would have to say. Thank you, sir. Thanks so much. [1:09:23, 1:09:25]: Anyone else opposed? [1:09:30, 1:09:45]: I would like for Mr either Mr. Giddings or Mr. Sylvain to come back and try to answer some of the questions that Ms. Fields raised regarding the twenty foot alley between nineteen and twenty. [1:09:46, 1:09:50]: The garbage pickup and the animal excrement. [1:09:51, 1:10:11]: So I they the these two gentlemen spoke and read their n their their uh their name and information in the record. Uh that L sixteen is is open green space. You know, our experience with these type developments um, you know, we put forward what we thought is was a good faith effort of what w we envisioned this process. [1:10:11, 1:10:31]: to be, but there's always groom uh room and uh for feedback. We appreciate the community's concerns. We're willing to consider those. We're gonna address the questions that were asked directly, but that that area that was was called out is is a green space. It could potentially be a dog park, but as [1:10:31, 1:10:45]: As of right now, it's green space and there's still room for feedback, you know, from a marketing standpoint and also what the community may want to see. Um Mr. Harris, the developer, wanted to address a couple of issues. [1:10:45, 1:10:50]: Yeah, I wanted to answer um a couple of questions uh um concerning the um [1:10:51, 1:11:01]: the dog uh excrements or pet excrements. Uh typically in a a project this size, uh, you know, you find them in town and, you know, we're considering [1:11:01, 1:11:21]: um downtown corridor of of uh stock bridges in town. And so you'll typically in these kind of uh projects, they have poop bins and the owners normally will have poop bins with with bags and they'll pick up the poop and put and uh put it into the bins. And uh that is also uh you know uh the H [1:11:21, 1:11:22]: H O A w handle. [1:11:23, 1:11:30]: getting that into the uh the bins to pick up be picked up. So that's typically how that works in these kind of uh um [1:11:30, 1:11:48]: in these kinds of communities. Also the community is also within a half mile of a park. So um tip and that's one of the you know good things about this community is they you know the the homeowners can walk to the to the park and walk their dogs uh and everything. Uh concerning the um the neighbors, um [1:11:49, 1:12:09]: We are asking for variances to reduce the side setbacks, but we will put sufficient um typically we always put uh sufficient barriers there, buffers, uh, whether it's different uh heights of trees, bushes, um, fences, to make it less is uh as less intrusive. [1:12:09, 1:12:12]: to the neighbors as possible. [1:12:12, 1:12:14]: And uh uh [1:12:14, 1:12:34]: Again to answer uh the other question is we typically the buyer for this type of uh product is different than a buyer who's looking for a single family home. It's usually again it's like uh usually professionals, uh young professionals. Um normally don't have kids, so they're not really worried about too much uh yard. Um [1:12:34, 1:12:35]: Um [1:12:35, 1:12:39]: And you know, they like to walk, they l they want to go to the amphitheater, they want to walk to a downtown [1:12:40, 1:12:52]: uh the parks. And so um you know they uh the the lack of yard is typically not a problem with the uh the buyer uh who would buy this particular project uh product. [1:12:55, 1:12:55]: Thanks. [1:12:58, 1:13:01]: Again, Regis Savan, one thirty nine Bayberry Hills. Um [1:13:02, 1:13:03]: I think um [1:13:04, 1:13:07]: This area is changing and it's changing rapidly. [1:13:08, 1:13:15]: It's no longer where you have the house on two acres of land, not in a downtown area. [1:13:15, 1:13:34]: Again, we're in the process of developing downtown stockbridge. This is what the city say they want. They want density in the downtown area, and this is what we're trying to bring. Uh in terms of the amenities, there's absolutely no need to duplicate. We have a park literally right across the street. [1:13:35, 1:13:45]: We have a baseball park, we have walking trails. We've also committed to doing the ten foot trails, uh I'm sorry, ten foot sidewalks for connectivity. [1:13:46, 1:13:52]: We're less than a quarter of a mile away from the amphitheater. Again, this is downtown. This is not in [1:13:52, 1:13:53]: Rule. [1:13:54, 1:13:58]: Henry County. This is downtown Stockbridge, where we're trying to bring [1:13:58, 1:14:00]: Density to the area. [1:14:00, 1:14:03]: And in terms of the question of why not let [1:14:03, 1:14:08]: someone put two homes on that piece of property, they're more than welcome to. [1:14:08, 1:14:10]: It's for sale as of tonight. [1:14:10, 1:14:12]: If somebody wanna buy it and put two homes on it. [1:14:13, 1:14:33]: We'll accommodate that. But right now, we're trying to bring density to the downtown area. And again, for those who support it, we certainly appreciate you. For those who don't support it, I hope that you take a moment to think about what we're trying to do. It's only going to enhance the area. And again, I hope you take a moment. [1:14:33, 1:14:36]: moment and just think about what we're trying to do. Thank you. [1:14:37, 1:14:38]: Thank you, gentlemen. [1:14:45, 1:14:46]: Is there anyone else? [1:14:48, 1:14:49]: On the opposition side. [1:14:51, 1:14:53]: Ma'am, you've already spoken. [1:14:53, 1:14:54]: I'll speak. [1:15:03, 1:15:10]: My name's Gary Lee and um I live in McDonough, but I have properties in Stock Ridge just like um [1:15:10, 1:15:16]: The applicant, I'm an investor. I have plenty of properties. I buy all the time. I buy in the city of Stockbridge. [1:15:17, 1:15:21]: Um one reason why I buy in the city of Stockbridge is because. [1:15:21, 1:15:25]: of the Waystop Bridge is and what it could be. And I do understand that. [1:15:25, 1:15:28]: I'm also a licensed broker. I understand density. [1:15:28, 1:15:30]: I understand trying to conform. [1:15:30, 1:15:31]: However [1:15:32, 1:15:34]: Everything on this plan does not conform [1:15:35, 1:15:38]: To the stop bridge and what y'all are trying to do. [1:15:39, 1:15:40]: If anything [1:15:40, 1:15:42]: Yes, the property could be for sale. [1:15:42, 1:15:46]: is to take the property that's on it now and just like other owners have [1:15:47, 1:15:50]: turn it into O and I or Office. [1:15:52, 1:16:03]: Go through, renovate the property, turn it into a law office, turn it into a I think there's a uh shop up the street, right next to the amphitheater. Couple of problems with this is with your setbacks. [1:16:03, 1:16:04]: So short. [1:16:05, 1:16:11]: People in the 300 range, which he said he's gonna start, so it's probably gonna end up about three fifty, three seventy five. [1:16:12, 1:16:28]: The people that can afford that type of price, they're not gonna have small cars. They're gonna have larger SUVs. Well, those larger SUVs are not gonna be parked in the garage because the garage are gonna be too small, so they're gonna be parked in the driveway, which they're gonna hang over the sidewalks, which people are gonna park on the street. [1:16:28, 1:16:32]: Which the HOA is not gonna do anything about it because everybody's gonna be parking on the street. [1:16:33, 1:16:40]: So with that being said, you're not gonna have a way for the garbage trucks to go in. You're not gonna have a way for the fire trucks to go in. [1:16:40, 1:16:43]: If you're talking about people want to walk everywhere, that's great. [1:16:44, 1:16:47]: So they get to cross East Atlanta Road to get to the park. [1:16:49, 1:17:05]: They can go to the amplitude, yeah, it's a quarter mile down the road on the same side. But now you need to add crosswalks or a red light, or they have to walk all the way down past the BP station in that area to get to a park or to publics or wherever else you want to walk. So now we're putting pedestrians on East Atlanta Road. [1:17:05, 1:17:07]: Which we all godly know. [1:17:07, 1:17:10]: I don't care what the speed limit is, everybody's running eighty five through there. [1:17:11, 1:17:12]: So [1:17:12, 1:17:24]: besides being a danger where people are in the subdivision, you can't get in and out because of the cars parked, now you're asking to walk down the street and try to cross to a park because they don't have no yard. [1:17:24, 1:17:33]: They can't go into the neighbor's yard, even though there's not really a plan for any type of berm or anything between'em. So they technically could play in the woods. [1:17:34, 1:17:35]: On other people's property. [1:17:35, 1:17:37]: So either way [1:17:37, 1:17:41]: I think it's a great idea, but it's just it doesn't fit right there. [1:17:41, 1:17:51]: It's just it's just too much trying to slam into that little area. I get the density, I get trying to make the money as an investor to put as many as you can on an acre. [1:17:53, 1:17:56]: But changing, getting variance after variance after variance. [1:17:56, 1:17:59]: Once y'all are out of office down the road, you're correct. [1:17:59, 1:18:02]: Twenty years from now, I'm still gonna be here. I'm gonna have to deal with that. [1:18:03, 1:18:04]: It's not gonna be fun. [1:18:05, 1:18:06]: Thank you for your time. Thank you, sir. [1:18:09, 1:18:10]: Oh. [1:18:10, 1:18:12]: This bring the public hearing to a close. [1:18:15, 1:18:22]: Uh Mr. Chairman, uh I think the young lady had one question that was never answered, and it's the garbage pickup. [1:18:24, 1:18:29]: Think she related to that also. Could could you get them to answer that question for her? [1:18:30, 1:18:35]: Sure. Mr. Sylvain, Mr. Gideons. [1:18:40, 1:18:42]: Did you understand what they're asking for? [1:18:42, 1:18:43]: Yes. [1:18:43, 1:19:03]: Um so typically um there's individual bins uh for each unit, but you know, we want to work with the community and and uh we're open to um you know a uh a trash uh uh community trash bin uh which you know there's space in the back of the uh development. [1:19:03, 1:19:16]: where we could put a community trash bin also. But typically there's individual bins for each in uh unit and they uh they would typically keep them in the driveway uh of the of the um prod property. [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: Does that answer your question, Ms. Field? [1:19:30, 1:19:41]: And those are all things that you know that can be written into the HOA uh docs to handle p and that's typically how the how it's done. Uh HOA is responsible for the uh pest control. [1:19:41, 1:19:55]: um the maintenance of the of the um property, uh enforcing the um the bins to not be overfill filled, all those kind of things are uh typically enforced by the uh HOA. [1:19:55, 1:19:56]: Very good. Thank you, sir. [1:20:01, 1:20:02]: Public hearing is now closed. [1:20:08, 1:20:16]: I will entertain a motion from the commission regarding comprehensive plan amendment KCP twenty twenty-three-o eight. [1:20:17, 1:20:23]: Mr. Chairman Dave Planchon, I would like to make a motion that we approve the comprehensive plan amendment. [1:20:24, 1:20:27]: CP twenty twenty three dash oh eight. [1:20:28, 1:20:30]: And I'm Harold, I'll second it. [1:20:30, 1:20:46]: It's been moved and seconded that we approve the comprehensive plan amendment number CP twenty twenty three dash oh eight. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. [1:20:47, 1:20:48]: In your post? [1:20:49, 1:20:49]: Opposed. [1:20:51, 1:20:55]: We have three three ayes, one nay. [1:20:56, 1:21:04]: Mr. Mitten opposes it. Mr. Williams, Mr. Thibodeau, and Mr. Planchon is in favor of it. [1:21:07, 1:21:12]: So the eyes have it. The amendment case is [1:21:13, 1:21:14]: approved. [1:21:17, 1:21:22]: Now we'll entertain a motion for rezoning case R Z twenty twenty three dash oh nine. [1:21:27, 1:21:38]: Mr. Chairman, if nobody else will, this is Dave Planchon. I'd like to make a motion we approve the rezoning request twenty twenty three dash oh nine. [1:21:39, 1:21:40]: Is there a second? [1:21:42, 1:21:43]: Maharrow, I'll second it. [1:21:45, 1:22:00]: It's been moved and second that we approve rezoning case RZ twenty twenty three-zero nine. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Uh any opposed? Opposed. [1:22:01, 1:22:05]: The eyes have it. The rezoning case is approved. [1:22:06, 1:22:11]: For the record, Miss Secretary, Mr Williams, Mr Thibodeau, and Mr Planchon voted [1:22:13, 1:22:13]: Yay. [1:22:15, 1:22:17]: Mr. Minton voted nay. [1:22:23, 1:22:29]: I will now entertain a motion for variance case VR twenty twenty three dash zero five. [1:22:34, 1:22:36]: Mr. Chairman, Dave Planchon again. [1:22:37, 1:22:40]: Would like to make a motion that we approve variance request. [1:22:41, 1:22:43]: twenty twenty three dash oh five. [1:22:43, 1:22:55]: Is there a second? Um Harold, I'll second it. It's been moved and second that we approve variance case vrr dash 2023-05. [1:22:55, 1:22:57]: All in favor let it be numb by the sound of a. [1:23:00, 1:23:01]: In our post. [1:23:01, 1:23:03]: No. Pose, no. [1:23:06, 1:23:07]: We have [1:23:08, 1:23:13]: Two yeas and two nays, so I guess that means I need to cast a vote. [1:23:16, 1:23:17]: And I vote nay. [1:23:23, 1:23:24]: So the motion fails. [1:23:34, 1:23:36]: Did you get that, Miss Secretary? [1:23:40, 1:23:41]: Two to two. [1:23:41, 1:23:50]: Williams and uh Mitton voted nay, Thibodeau and Planchon voted yay, and I broke the tie with a nay vote. [1:23:53, 1:23:53]: Thank you. [1:24:02, 1:24:12]: The next case on the agenda is regarding property located on the north side of North Henry Boulevard and west side of Center Street. [1:24:13, 1:24:22]: Comprehensive plan amendment K C P Dash 2023 dash zero nine located in Council District Four. [1:24:24, 1:24:37]: The consideration of a request for a comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use designation of a certain property on the north side of North Herman Boulevard and the west side of Center Street. [1:24:38, 1:24:52]: as listed below from low density mix use and medium density residential to medium density residential to allow for construction of a town home development. [1:24:53, 1:25:05]: The applicant is four star USA Real Estate Group Incorporated, represented by Alexander J. Alexander Brock or Smith Gambriel and Russell, LLP. [1:25:06, 1:25:25]: The property contains five parcels in land twelve of District Six and are listed below with fifteen point six zero one more or less total acres within the stockbridge center limits. [1:25:26, 1:25:31]: And the property's off forty eight forty four North Henry Boulevard. [1:25:32, 1:25:42]: Identified as parcel S eighteen dash twenty zero two zero zero three zero zero zero contains one point two more or less acres. [1:25:43, 1:25:52]: Existing future land use designation is LDMU, which is the low density mixed use. [1:25:53, 1:26:13]: The second property is located at forty eight eighty two North Henry Boulevard, parcel S eighteen zero two hundred two zero zero five contains one point nine acres more or less. Existing future land use designation is L D. [1:26:13, 1:26:16]: DMU low density mixed use. [1:26:17, 1:26:21]: The third parcel is forty nine hundred North Henry Boulevard. [1:26:23, 1:26:43]: First track. The parcel number is S18-0200-2000. Contains ten point six two more or less acres. Existing land use designation is MDR, which is medium density residential. [1:26:45, 1:26:51]: Parcel four is located at 4900 North Henry Boulevard, second track. [1:26:52, 1:27:11]: The parcel for that track is S18-0200-2006. Contains 2.21 more or less acres. And the existing future land use designation is LDMU, which is low density mixed use. [1:27:13, 1:27:15]: Parcel five [1:27:16, 1:27:20]: Parcel on Center Street with no address. [1:27:22, 1:27:42]: Sparsa number S eighteen-0200 four thousand nine. Contains point five six more or less acres and the existing land use designation is LDMU, low density mixed use. [1:27:42, 1:27:42]: [5268.3, 5271.4]: The rezoning case for that same property [1:27:52, 1:28:06]: It's RZ twenty twenty three-one zero. It's located in Council District Four. It's consideration of request for a rezoning to rezone certain property. [1:28:07, 1:28:13]: on North Henry Boulevard, on the north side, and the west side of Center Street. [1:28:16, 1:28:18]: From suburban residential [1:28:19, 1:28:24]: office industrial and neighborhood commercial. [1:28:25, 1:28:29]: They want to rezone it to multifamily residential. [1:28:29, 1:28:32]: to allow for the town home development. [1:28:34, 1:28:37]: To allow for the construction of a town home development. [1:28:38, 1:28:43]: The applicant is four star or four star USA real estate group. [1:28:45, 1:28:52]: Again represented by J. Alexander Brock of Gamma Smith Gambriel Smith Smith Gambrel and Russell L L P [1:28:55, 1:29:00]: And then there's a variance case VR dash twenty twenty three dash oh six. [1:29:02, 1:29:07]: Is the consideration of a request for a variance on certain property [1:29:08, 1:29:14]: On the north side of North Emory Boulevard, the west side of Center Street, as I've already mentioned. [1:29:16, 1:29:20]: To allow for town to home development, the purpose of the variance [1:29:21, 1:29:25]: is to reduce the front yard setback [1:29:26, 1:29:28]: Of the proposed town home lots. [1:29:30, 1:29:34]: From the required fifty quift feet to thirty feet. [1:29:37, 1:29:41]: Under the requested multifamily residential zoning. [1:29:42, 1:29:51]: Again, the applicant is four star real estate group, represented by Hilth Gambattle Russell LLP. [1:29:56, 1:29:57]: Maybe we hear from staff, please. [1:30:10, 1:30:20]: This is a joint presentation for all three cases that were just named. Um these are proposed uh townhomes on the north side of North Henry Boulevard and the west side of [1:30:21, 1:30:22]: Center Street. [1:30:22, 1:30:24]: Applicant is four star real estate group. [1:30:25, 1:30:39]: So they submitted uh applications for uh comprehensive plan case number CP twenty twenty three oh nine, rezoning case number twenty RZ twenty twenty-three ten, and variance case twenty twenty-three oh five. [1:30:40, 1:31:00]: Um there are fifteen point six oh one total acres, five parcels of of them. It has five parcels and um actually actually uh four of them are are off North Henry Boulevard and one of them is uh has is broken down into two tracks with a large um track at the rear. [1:31:00, 1:31:02]: Yeah. [1:31:02, 1:31:07]: Forty nine hundred North Henry Boulevard and that tract has uh about ten acres. [1:31:07, 1:31:11]: The other parcels have only about one or two acres each. [1:31:13, 1:31:21]: Um so there would be proposed ninety town home units, density would be five point uh seven six nine units per acre approximately. [1:31:22, 1:31:23]: Um [1:31:23, 1:31:32]: Right now there's a funeral home and garage apartment at 4844 and 4882 North Henry Boulevard and vacant land on the other parcels. [1:31:36, 1:31:46]: We have surrounding uh land uses. We have the Stockbridge Takeway Do Academy and Club Drive subdivision to the west, vacant land to the north. [1:31:46, 1:31:49]: Um Holly Salon and Maris Bank to the east. [1:31:49, 1:31:50]: Um [1:31:50, 1:31:51]: Property is bounded to [1:31:52, 1:31:58]: bound to the south by North Henry Boulevard and then we have the Oak Hill and Mant turning point subdivisions to the northeast. [1:31:59, 1:32:05]: Um surrounding zoning, we got office institutional, suburban residential, and C One Neighborhood Commercial. [1:32:06, 1:32:06]: Um [1:32:07, 1:32:08]: existing [1:32:08, 1:32:12]: Applicant wants to rezone to MFR multiple family residential [1:32:12, 1:32:13]: And um [1:32:14, 1:32:18]: All but the rear of Forty nine hundred uh forty nine hundred North Henry Boulevard lie within the [1:32:19, 1:32:21]: Parkway mixed use overlay district. [1:32:21, 1:32:22]: Um [1:32:23, 1:32:34]: We have the applicant also wants to change a land use designation from low density, mixed use, and medium density residential to combine all all of them into just medium density residential. [1:32:36, 1:32:38]: This is a vicinity map of the area. [1:32:38, 1:32:41]: Can see here the large parcel largest parcel in red. [1:32:41, 1:32:50]: Um the smaller parcels uh down below and um uh to all to the north of North Henry Boulevard and then to the west of Center Street. [1:32:53, 1:32:58]: Here's the aerial photo or the neighborhood map, close up view of the surrounding streets. [1:33:00, 1:33:08]: And uh the aerial photograph again um this labels each of the addresses and each of the parcel numbers. [1:33:09, 1:33:14]: This is a l uh zoning and overlay districts map. You can see here in the yellow you have the [1:33:14, 1:33:17]: The S R suburban residential district. [1:33:18, 1:33:18]: Um [1:33:19, 1:33:24]: We have in in the pink and red areas, uh C one commercial and C two. [1:33:24, 1:33:27]: Um and then a blue is office institutional. [1:33:28, 1:33:29]: We have uh in the brown [1:33:29, 1:33:32]: In this area, the um MFR um [1:33:33, 1:33:38]: Multiple family residential, that's what the applicant is seeking to rezone the entire property to. [1:33:39, 1:33:41]: This is the future land use map. [1:33:41, 1:33:46]: And uh we have um medium density residential uh uh properties. [1:33:46, 1:33:58]: along North Henry Boulevard in the pink and low density residential uh or I'm sorry, mix uh mixed use in the pink and low density residential in the orange. [1:34:03, 1:34:23]: This is a boundary survey of the property. The important thing is to see is here the northern uh part of the property. There is Brush Creek uh bounding the property and its associated floodplains. And therefore, because of their presence, that limits the somewhat limits the developability of the site. [1:34:25, 1:34:45]: Um so again ninety townhomes would all would have three bedrooms. Their amenities include a pool, cabana dog park, and open space. Um the main entrance would be from North Henry Boulevard, and there would also be an emergency access to the northwest off Club Place, but that would be closed. [1:34:45, 1:34:53]: To the public, only used by fire trucks and ambulances, for instance. [1:34:53, 1:34:54]: Um [1:34:54, 1:34:57]: There was a traffic um [1:34:57, 1:35:00]: Not a full traffic impact study d done, but um [1:35:00, 1:35:06]: Estimate calculations made that there'd be about forty trips in the morning produced and forty seven in the afternoon. [1:35:07, 1:35:21]: This is not expected to be significant because North Henry Boulevard's a principal arterial. Um there would also be a stormwater pond and seventy-five foot floodplain buffer at the rear, twenty-five foot zoning buffer surrounding the property. [1:35:21, 1:35:23]: Three hundred sixteen parking spaces. [1:35:24, 1:35:27]: meets the requirements, also includes forty two guest spaces. [1:35:28, 1:35:31]: Thirty percent of the site would be open space that meets the requirements. [1:35:31, 1:35:32]: Um [1:35:33, 1:35:38]: There will be about town there'll be thirteen town home buildings, space at least twenty feet apart. [1:35:38, 1:35:44]: Uh the requested variants will reduce the front yard setbacks of lots from fifty to thirty feet. [1:35:44, 1:35:53]: The lots would be twenty four feet wide for two garage units and twenty feet wide for one car garage uh one one car garage units. [1:35:55, 1:35:58]: Uh here's a conceptual site plan. [1:35:58, 1:36:04]: Uh again it shows the main axis off N North Henry Bull with a cul-de-sac and then two cul-de-sac actually [1:36:05, 1:36:15]: And then the amenity areas would be here in this area, the pool, uh uh cabana dog park and another stormwater detention pond. That's a close up here. [1:36:16, 1:36:18]: Uh I have it also on a separate file [1:36:18, 1:36:22]: The site plan itself, if anyone needs to see an enlargement. [1:36:22, 1:36:27]: Um these are details about the site data, and a lot of it covered this already. [1:36:27, 1:36:30]: Here's the diagrams of proposed townhome lots. [1:36:30, 1:36:31]: Um [1:36:31, 1:36:34]: Showing the larger units, uh twenty [1:36:35, 1:36:38]: Four feet wide and a and the smaller units twenty feet wide. [1:36:40, 1:36:48]: So these are sample renderings. These are the units with the one car garages and these are the ones with the two car garages. [1:36:49, 1:36:55]: Now I'm gonna talk about our analysis for comprehensive plan amendment case number CP twenty twenty three oh nine. [1:36:55, 1:36:58]: So um we have existing par um [1:36:58, 1:37:06]: Designation of low density mixed use allows low intensity mixed uses to serve serve the surrounding residential neighborhoods. [1:37:06, 1:37:08]: Um the rear par track [1:37:09, 1:37:14]: The large parcel is designated as medium density residential that allows single family detached homes. [1:37:15, 1:37:16]: And and townhomes. [1:37:16, 1:37:17]: Um [1:37:17, 1:37:23]: Applicant wants to change that rear parcel so that all five parcels have the same medium density residential designation. [1:37:24, 1:37:25]: Um [1:37:25, 1:37:29]: We found that the density would be acceptable and um [1:37:29, 1:37:35]: There's already large areas to the east and west with the same designation of medium density residential. [1:37:35, 1:37:37]: And this development will provide [1:37:37, 1:37:40]: needed housing uh in the city. [1:37:40, 1:37:43]: and diversity in housing and that's what the conference uh plan p calls for. [1:37:44, 1:37:46]: We conclude at the [1:37:46, 1:37:49]: The comprehensive plan amendment request is reasonable. [1:37:49, 1:37:51]: And recommend approval of that. [1:37:52, 1:37:54]: Now I'm gonna talk about the rezoning case. [1:37:54, 1:37:59]: Um proposals to rezone the property from S R O I and C one to M FR. [1:38:00, 1:38:03]: We found that it's consistent with sub comprehensive plan, as I just mentioned. [1:38:04, 1:38:12]: It is located on a road having a classification of collector or higher. We have other compatible MFR districts nearby. [1:38:12, 1:38:17]: Property is suitable, although it has the irregular shape and if loadplain areas they [1:38:17, 1:38:23]: Applicants designed the site plan in a way to avoid those areas or or to compensate for them. [1:38:24, 1:38:24]: Um [1:38:25, 1:38:33]: There should be minimal access on the Jerson property owners because of only one main access and and no through streets going through. [1:38:34, 1:38:40]: Um they s applicant submitted a letter from public works. There is adequate water and sewer capacity. [1:38:41, 1:38:43]: They just need to meet uh public works. [1:38:43, 1:38:44]: Um [1:38:44, 1:38:45]: Uh [1:38:45, 1:38:46]: Send uh [1:38:47, 1:38:50]: prepare construction plans to that office within one year so that [1:38:51, 1:38:52]: capacity will be reserved. [1:38:53, 1:38:56]: I talked about traffic impacts should be minimal. Um [1:38:58, 1:39:04]: Uh property could be developed under the z existing zoning, but that would be piecemeal development. This uh [1:39:05, 1:39:08]: design would allow for a com unified plan. [1:39:10, 1:39:11]: Okay. [1:39:12, 1:39:22]: So we conclude that the proposed rezoning is reasonable and uh should be approved with the following conditions based on the site plan that was submitted or a similar one. [1:39:23, 1:39:23]: Um [1:39:24, 1:39:26]: Uh access and streets. [1:39:26, 1:39:30]: Applicant developers shall comply with the requirements of the city's fire marshal [1:39:30, 1:39:36]: And also comply with the uh requirements of public works regarding utilities, installations. [1:39:38, 1:39:39]: Uh further [1:39:39, 1:39:48]: Further uh conditions are waste collection. There should be a consolidated waste collection system with no individual waste receptacles being permitted. [1:39:49, 1:39:52]: Architectural design, three of them we identified. [1:39:52, 1:39:55]: All town home units shall have brick on at least three sides. [1:39:56, 1:40:02]: Secondly, at least eighty percent of townhome units shall have two car garages. And thirdly, this shall be a gated community. [1:40:03, 1:40:10]: Rental units, there should be no more than ten percent of of the town home units rented at any one time. [1:40:10, 1:40:20]: Property maintenance. Um, developer must create a townhomes association similar to an HOA or secure property management company to maintain all common areas. [1:40:20, 1:40:23]: Developers shall also take appropriate steps. [1:40:23, 1:40:24]: Preserve. [1:40:24, 1:40:25]: Rush Creek. [1:40:26, 1:40:29]: and adjacent floodplain areas for environmental protection. [1:40:30, 1:40:35]: Now I'm gonna talk about variants case number V R twenty twenty three oh five. Again this was [1:40:36, 1:40:37]: Proposal to reduce [1:40:37, 1:40:41]: The front yard set back from fifty to thirty feet under the MFR. [1:40:42, 1:40:42]: Zoning. [1:40:43, 1:40:49]: So there are certain criteria for that. I'll just go through them briefly. Yes, the property has extraordinary circumstances. [1:40:49, 1:40:53]: Because of its irregular shape and the presence of the floodplain areas and creeks. [1:40:54, 1:40:57]: Um this may be caused the applicant difficulty. [1:40:58, 1:40:59]: uh in designing the site. [1:41:00, 1:41:03]: It would not grant any special privileges on the property owner. [1:41:04, 1:41:08]: Um it would be consistent with the UDC on compatible neighboring [1:41:09, 1:41:09]: Uh [1:41:09, 1:41:11]: uses um [1:41:12, 1:41:18]: And um none of this is these circumstances are result of the actions of the applicant. [1:41:19, 1:41:21]: And the last few um [1:41:21, 1:41:25]: This uh property, although it could be developed with adjacent uses. [1:41:25, 1:41:27]: Again, this would bring a cohesive plan. [1:41:28, 1:41:28]: And um [1:41:29, 1:41:34]: And otherwise would be the uh developer will be c uh very much uh constrained. [1:41:34, 1:41:35]: Um [1:41:35, 1:41:39]: And this is townhomes are permitted use in the MFR district. [1:41:40, 1:41:45]: We therefore think that this uh ta variance request is reasonable and re recommend its approval. [1:41:47, 1:41:52]: And that's that's my uh presentation for all three cases. [1:41:52, 1:41:53]: Thank you, Lynn. [1:41:57, 1:42:02]: My fellow commissioners, do you have any questions for Mr. Logan? [1:42:08, 1:42:09]: No questions? [1:42:12, 1:42:13]: Thank you, Linda. [1:42:17, 1:42:18]: Is the applicant present? [1:42:56, 1:42:57]: Excuse me. [1:42:57, 1:43:17]: Good evening, Mr. Chair and members of the Planning Commission. My name is Alex Brock with Smith Cambrell Russell. Here on behalf of FourStar Real Estate Group, and with me tonight I have Jack Burke and Ren Giazzoni with FourStar. And we are here to discuss our applications for a comprehensive plan amendment rezoning in one variance total. [1:43:17, 1:43:21]: allow a town home development on North Henry Boulevard. [1:43:21, 1:43:41]: The property is located approximately a third of a mile uh east of this uh facility on North Henry Boulevard in between uh Center Street and uh Club Drive. Uh you can see Clubs. Club Drive uh to the east and then Center Street uh to the west. [1:43:43, 1:43:46]: Uh or I have that backwards, sorry. Um [1:43:46, 1:44:06]: The current zoning of the property, as staff mentioned, I'm not going to go through their uh presentation. I think Ms. Slogan did a very thorough job of explaining the facts of the case, but there are a few things that I would like to mention. Uh the properties now uh consists of five parcels. They all have uh various zonings, uh O and I. Um [1:44:09, 1:44:29]: Excuse me, O and I, S R and C one. Uh we would like to rezone the entire property to MFR to allow cohesive zoning and development of the property for 90 townhome units, uh, as well as a comprehensive plan amendment to allow the MFR zoning. Uh currently the four parcels along North Henry Boulevard are [1:44:29, 1:44:45]: are in the low density vertical mixed use land use, and then the larger parcel to the north is in the medium density residential district. And surrounding the property to the north, east, and west are other districts within the MDR district. [1:44:47, 1:45:07]: Uh the proposed unit we are proposing 90 units, uh mixture of 20-foot wide units and 24-foot wide units. Uh currently the design calls for 43 uh 20-foot one-car uh garage units and 47 two-car uh 24-foot wide units. Uh the amenities we will we are proposing. [1:45:07, 1:45:12]: Proposing a pool along with a clubhouse and dog park. Um [1:45:12, 1:45:16]: The pool and clubhouse will be located in this area, uh dog park down here. [1:45:17, 1:45:29]: And this is something that we've gotten from input from the city on previous rezonings in the city of Stockbridge. They wanted to see more amenities, so we went ahead and included that up front with our initial design of the property rather than waiting for the city to comment on that. [1:45:31, 1:45:51]: As Ms. Logan mentioned, uh, our access will be from North Henry Boulevard, uh, which is a Georgia DOT controlled right-of-way. Uh it is a principal art arterial uh with a high volume of traffic. And we will have a secondary entrance to the north off of Club Place. That will be gated and locked for emergency access only. It will have an uh what they call an Oxbox. [1:45:51, 1:45:54]: [6355.0, 6359.2]: And that will only be used during uh emergency uh situations. [1:46:05, 1:46:25]: The the rezoning to MFR, it's compatible with the surrounding zonings. To the west and to the north, uh to the north there's an undeveloped parcel owned by the city of Stockbridge zoned SR. Uh to the uh west along uh Club Drive and Club Place are single-family uh detached homes zoned SR. [1:46:25, 1:46:26]: But to the [1:46:26, 1:46:29]: А іст овер ви [1:46:30, 1:46:50]: Several developments. The Oak Hill Terrace Town Home community down here, which is zoned MFR, the same dis or the same zoning that we are requesting. And that is approximately 16 units at a density of six point seven or six seven units per acre. Uh the turning point subdivision just to the north here uh is zoned SR, but that is forty-five units. [1:46:50, 1:47:03]: at a density of 8.07 uh units per acre. Our density, our proposed density is below both of those. We are requesting a density of 5.77 units per acre. [1:47:03, 1:47:16]: Uh so that will act as a compatible transition between the denser residential to the east uh uh to the existing uh s uh single family detached residences to the west. [1:47:18, 1:47:24]: And as I mentioned earlier, the property is located just north of the city's down downtown amphitheater. Um [1:47:25, 1:47:38]: across the parking lot from where we are tonight. Uh and it's also just south on North Henry Boulevard of a large commercial node at 138 where you have the existing Walmart and a number of other commercial developments. [1:47:41, 1:47:50]: In addition, the townhomes are aligned with Stockbridge's long-term planning documents, uh, in particular the uh city's newly adopted comprehensive plan. [1:47:51, 1:48:04]: In the comprehensive plan, there's uh a repeated note of the city's desire and need for a mixture of housing and diversity of housing types. We are proposing uh a townhome development at a [1:48:05, 1:48:25]: relatively lower density uh than what you see in other townhome developments with a number of amenities uh to fit within the area. Uh our goal and what our intended market is will be uh younger professionals and uh empty nesters. Those are the typical market for these types of townhome developments. Uh and the reason for that is [1:48:25, 1:48:40]: people tend tend to like townhomes because of the uh lack of yard maintenance. Four star will have an hoa that will m maintain not only the common areas but also the maintenance within the lots as well. [1:48:42, 1:48:58]: Uh community engagement. We did have a community meeting with the surrounding neighbors. Uh we sent out approximately forty five notices. Uh we had uh approximately ten people join a Zoom meeting last night. Uh I believe some of those may be in attendance uh here tonight as well. [1:49:00, 1:49:07]: There was a number of uh items discussed uh to get a better idea of how the emergency access was handled. Um [1:49:09, 1:49:29]: There's questions on stormwater uh buffers. We do have a twenty-five foot buffer along the SR zoned uh properties. Since the Oak Hill Terrace townhomes are also zoned MFR, we're not required to have a twenty-five foot buffer, but we are meaningful to extending that buffer further south uh in in planning uh that they're just [1:49:29, 1:49:35]: to add to it, but we do have a large amount of space between the back of the townhomes and the adjacent properties. [1:49:36, 1:49:47]: You that is uh as far as a twofold purpose. One, uh it helps buffer the adjacent properties. Uh there's approximately almost four hundred feet between the back of our homes and the back of the [1:49:48, 1:49:50]: Homes on uh club drive. [1:49:50, 1:50:06]: So there's this significant amount of vegetation that's there. And also with that uh space be behind our homes, we can preserve a lot of that for vegetation or re-vegetate it. The the site does have quite a bit of a topography. It drops to the south, uh down towards the creek. [1:50:07, 1:50:13]: So we anticipate that there will be grading, uh, but we're willing to uh uh plant back behind the homes. [1:50:16, 1:50:24]: Uh uh that goes into our one variance request uh for shorter uh front yard setback. [1:50:24, 1:50:44]: And the reason for that request, uh, the 50-foot setback is excessive for townhomes uh if you look at other jurisdictions. And we've also done other rezonings here in the city of Stockbridge and had a similar request, and that is just to shorten the driveway. We are we still maintain a 30-foot driveway uh in the front, which would allow a vehicle to be parked in front of the drive. [1:50:44, 1:50:55]: front of the unit. But it also moves the units away. This yeah as you can see it's a long narrow site and as I mentioned there are topography issues. [1:50:55, 1:51:01]: But it moves the units away from the adjacent residential, uh which adds to that buffer, uh buffering effect. [1:51:03, 1:51:23]: And uh also in addition to that, as I mentioned, uh Four Star is uh planning on having the HOA maintain the landscaping, uh not only in the common areas, but also in the uh lots themselves, the units themselves. Uh when you have a larger front yard, that just increases the cost of the HOA each month because they have more to maintain. [1:51:25, 1:51:33]: So with that, uh I'll end my presentation. Just note that staff has recommended approval of all three applications. Uh [1:51:34, 1:51:52]: Uh we did have a meeting with the community last night. There were some concerns. We hope we address those. There were some questions that we have to go back and look at. Um namely with the the buffer issues uh along the adjacent uh properties, but we are willing to have more engagement with the community after this if necessary. [1:51:53, 1:51:56]: Thank you, sir. Thank you. Any questions for the applicant? [1:51:57, 1:51:59]: Yes. Mr. Chairman. [1:52:00, 1:52:20]: Uh first thank you for the William go ahead sir. Thank you. Thank you for your presentation. Uh one I wanted to know, what was the price point starting for the town? It's in the 300s. Uh the sale of the property, the schedule that we're looking at now, if we successfully get through the rezoning of this, uh we would submit for LDP uh later the spring or in the summer. [1:52:20, 1:52:34]: with uh land disturbance beginning in 2025 and then uh the first units selling 2026, 2027 timeframe. So right now we are looking at 300s, uh, but that may change by the time we uh sell the units. [1:52:34, 1:52:45]: Okay. And then one more question. Um so the area that you guys are looking at, will there be a buffer between this development and club place, that street? [1:52:45, 1:52:51]: There is uh currently on the plan a twenty five foot buffer, but there's a larger uh [1:52:51, 1:53:02]: area between the back of our proposed lots and the property line as well. It's approximately 120 feet from the back of our units to the property line. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. [1:53:03, 1:53:05]: Mr. Planchon, you had a question. [1:53:06, 1:53:26]: Yes, m uh um since this is going to be a gated community, i are you aware that the you're going to be responsible for the roads and the HOA is going to be responsible for the roadways then? That that's correct. It would be a um a private drive. Uh so that's something that we weren't initially uh anticipating, uh but staff is [1:53:26, 1:53:46]: Has recommended that condition. Now we'll note to this uh body that we did receive the conditions on Monday. We've had our engineer look at a number of these to, particularly with the requirement for 80% two-car garages, because that does impact our site design quite a bit. Uh we have not come up with an answer to that yet, but we we are looking at all these whole lists. [1:53:46, 1:53:47]: statistically to see how it impacts our development. [1:53:48, 1:53:57]: Okay. And again I'm gonna repeat myself. Do you anticipate marketing these to s adults primarily or families [1:53:57, 1:54:11]: The that's the uh adults um both empty nesters and young professionals are the typical market for townhomes, uh not only on the south side of land but all over uh because of the lack of yard maintenance is is particularly attractive to those groups. [1:54:13, 1:54:13]: Thank you. [1:54:15, 1:54:16]: Any more questions for the Africa? [1:54:20, 1:54:20]: Thank you, sir. [1:54:20, 1:54:21]: Thank you. [1:54:22, 1:54:24]: Now I'll leave this up here for the [1:54:28, 1:54:40]: We'll now open the floor for public comments and I will entertain any comments that are in favor of this development at this time. [1:54:47, 1:54:48]: Seeing none. [1:54:50, 1:54:55]: I will now open it for comments that are in opposition to this development. [1:54:58, 1:55:06]: If you have not already done so, sir, fill out a form you have approach the podium, give us your name and let us hear your comments. [1:55:12, 1:55:32]: My name is Travis Powell. I uh my address that I put down is the address of the property that I own on Club Place that I was have been intending to move to eventually, but I actually live out on 138. I have a large property out there. Uh I don't really have a complaint about this because I've known [1:55:32, 1:55:52]: Known forever that this was coming. Uh I grew up here. I used to play in the woods there when I was little, all around. In fact, up the old cemetery that nobody knows about and so forth. Anyway, uh one of the things I had to comment about, uh, in fact, I think I brought it up last night about the revenue from [1:55:52, 1:56:12]: Tax revenue? I know that's one thing people won't, the city won't, so that's I think that's why y'all want to get larger so you can get more revenue, right? And I was asking them, are these lots are gonna be taxed both as property and uh improvements? In other words, will there be enough tax coming in from [1:56:11, 1:56:30]: From these uh townhouses to cover things like the sewage, uh schools, whatever. Uh anyway, the main thing I was thinking about was uh my property on Club Place. Um I'm [1:56:31, 1:56:39]: I'm on the s the low side of that street. And I used to have a berm at the top of my driveway to keep my property from flooding or my house from flooding. [1:56:40, 1:57:00]: And when they came in and repaved the road, they covered it up up to the top of my berm. So now, and I can almost guarantee you if I go over there right now, my garage is gonna be flooded. They've already flooded the whole basement. I had to rip out all the carpet. I don't live there yet. Like I said, I've been holding on to it. It was my ex-in-law's house. I acquired it when they passed. [1:57:00, 1:57:13]: Away because I took care of them. And at one point I was gonna, as soon as my mother died or my family died on the farm that I live on, I was gonna sell all that, remodel, and move into that house. [1:57:14, 1:57:34]: So I was concerned about there ev even though there's a limited access way at the end of the cul-de-sac that they talked about, I also wanted to make sure that because there is a downhill slope from all from the houses across the street, and I'm guessing through the woods down to [1:57:33, 1:57:45]: to that point to where it connects to club place, there's gonna be a large flow of water. And I'm afraid that's gonna be down Club Place into my driveway again. [1:57:46, 1:58:06]: Now once I move up here I may try to put a wall, you know, all the way along there across and put up an another berm. But I know I've had a lot of trouble with flooding just because there's so much rain coming down the hill from the neighbors across, across Club Place, because their backyards are basically straight up. They don't have yards, they have hills. [1:58:06, 1:58:26]: And I'm guessing this property here where the woods are are also one big hill. So as long as they divert it down into what they call their retention pond, which I'm not sure that's going to take care of all the flow downhill. And of course that'll end up going into what do you call it now? Brush Creek. You know, Brush Creek used to be a little bit. [1:58:26, 1:58:46]: To be basically the overflow for Askews Lakes, and that was the only water that came down. I grew up playing in that creek. It never was wider than four feet or six inches deep. And now it floods half my yard because so much water from the trailer parks, Walmart, all those businesses along. [1:58:46, 1:58:57]: have somehow been able to divert into that creek when it rains. So if you go down there when a hard rain comes, in 10 or 15 minutes that thing's gonna raise up six feet. [1:58:58, 1:59:13]: And it it's not gonna be long before you're gonna have to replace those tank those uh culverts under Club Circle also. So anyway, like I said, I don't really have a negative a anything negative to say about the development'cause I said it's gotta be coming. I just wanna make sure that [1:59:15, 1:59:35]: You know, the city is is getting their money's worth of from the taxes without it impacting any other people and anybody anybody else's taxes going up. I used to be a Stockbridge fireman, so I used to go to city council meetings and I remember back in the eighties when I when that apartment development just passed. [1:59:37, 1:59:40]: Well it's just pass uh Buchanan? No. What's that [1:59:40, 2:00:00]: chiropractors. Where the Gilberts used to live, the Gil Gilberts original house. Some people came in to to do the same thing they wanted to build as apartments. And right in the middle of the city council meeting they basically told him, Well, we'll pay you twenty thousand dollars to going towards your water treatment if you'll let us bill. [2:00:02, 2:00:05]: So I didn't want that something like that to happen, you know, where [2:00:05, 2:00:06]: There's something going on. [2:00:07, 2:00:12]: And see, I didn't even know about this. Was wasn't this supposed to be publicized either by signage? It was, sir. [2:00:13, 2:00:20]: Well why wouldn't I not have g received or the person next to me? I have no idea. Okay. But thank you for your time, sir. All right. Thank you. [2:00:24, 2:00:40]: Good evening again, uh Gary Lee. Um like I said before, I'm an investor, I own properties, and I don't really have an issue with it, but I never got notice. They said that they had a community meeting. I never and I I got notice and [2:00:40, 2:00:48]: I own two units right here, and I represent three more of my owners that are right here. So my biggest concern is. [2:00:49, 2:00:57]: With all of this here coming in, you're taking out all that vegetation, and to the point is [2:00:58, 2:01:18]: Here's your retention pond there, but everything on here runs from left to right. So when they clear all of this out, there goes all those trees, grass, you know, crap basically that's holding the water from flooding these units. So even though they're talking about there's 120 feet here, these properties on Club Drive. [2:01:18, 2:01:20]: [7280.9, 7286.1]: All their property is in their backyard. So you can see the house here. This is all their backyard. [2:01:27, 2:01:28]: My house sits right here. [2:01:29, 2:01:30]: I don't have a backyard. [2:01:31, 2:01:33]: I can go out and throw a stone and hit. [2:01:34, 2:01:35]: their townhouse once they build it. [2:01:36, 2:01:43]: So what we're worried about here is all of this here from the streets, the coverts, that's not called. [2:01:44, 2:01:46]: is you want to flood this area here. [2:01:48, 2:01:52]: Which at that point I'm gonna have a problem because mine's a slab unit. [2:01:53, 2:02:04]: Well actually the all slab units. And what they're talking about here is when they rezone to match everyone else, these townhomes here and even these here, these are not attached. [2:02:05, 2:02:11]: The zoning is correct, but there's no garages. They're twelve, thirteen, fourteen hundred square feet. [2:02:12, 2:02:20]: They're not 2,000 or 2,500 square feet, which you're talking here, with two-car garages and things like that. So these are much smaller units. [2:02:21, 2:02:26]: So even though the zoning is per acre, these are small units. [2:02:26, 2:02:30]: And so the surface area that they're using is less than what they're doing here. [2:02:31, 2:02:43]: And then you're gonna pull traffic right here, right across from the subdivision, I think it's called Tahoe Road. There's even where they egress and degress there, the reduction lanes. [2:02:43, 2:02:52]: You're gonna have people backing up trying to get in and out if it's a ghetto community. So if they're not using this entrance back here, you're gonna have people coming in and sitting on. [2:02:52, 2:02:55]: Um North Henry Boulevard trying to get in or out. [2:02:56, 2:03:01]: Let's say for good on a good day, everybody here has one car. That's 90 cars. [2:03:02, 2:03:08]: If half of'em go to work, that's forty-five cars trying to get out and get in on North Henry Boulevard. There's no light here. [2:03:10, 2:03:11]: There's no way for safety. [2:03:12, 2:03:18]: I mean it's already pretty bad there, even with thirty-five miles an hour in this zone, which is what they're talking about. People run sixty. [2:03:19, 2:03:23]: So again, even with the the other units, you're having problem with traffic. [2:03:23, 2:03:28]: Everything looks great on paper, but once you get in and actually looking at it, it's not gonna work. [2:03:29, 2:03:33]: That's not for me to decide, that's for you. I'm just worried about getting flooded out. [2:03:34, 2:03:35]: That's my biggest concern. [2:03:35, 2:03:35]: So [2:03:36, 2:03:37]: Thank you for hearing me out. Thank you, sir. [2:03:39, 2:03:39]: Next please. [2:03:47, 2:03:50]: А тери вайдо ливом окіл церкви. [2:03:51, 2:03:54]: the properties backs up right to us. [2:03:55, 2:03:59]: And I'm I'm not opposed to it. We just have a couple of concerns. [2:04:00, 2:04:05]: We already have a uh water runoff issue from the property. [2:04:05, 2:04:11]: above us running through the backyard and it's a fairly serious issue that we have. [2:04:11, 2:04:14]: Um and the other issue is [2:04:14, 2:04:19]: about um having uh enough of a buffer that [2:04:19, 2:04:21]: Ви стіль хав саморасі. [2:04:22, 2:04:34]: And also a well built privacy fence to keep any foot traffic from coming out of the development onto our properties'cause we back up right to the woods. [2:04:36, 2:04:43]: And that's the m that's the only two concerns that I have about it. It's that and also when they're doing the prep work. [2:04:44, 2:04:58]: 'Cause the w the property slopes towards us. So when they're doing prep work, we uh just make sure that the runoff is directed away from our properties, I'm not kill circle. [2:05:00, 2:05:07]: But um other than that, that's I mean I have no objection to it or just help us. Thank you. [2:05:08, 2:05:09]: Go ahead and answer. [2:05:09, 2:05:29]: I I think that uh you should get with the developer uh if this project is approved one way or the other and list all your concerns about the them grading the property. I have and uh Mr. Brock's taking it under consideration. I just wanted to [2:05:30, 2:05:40]: And any other neighbor that has concerns, everybody needs to get together to see what they can work out with a developer or a builder. [2:05:40, 2:05:43]: Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. [2:05:45, 2:05:45]: In Mokhamess. [2:05:49, 2:05:52]: If there are no other comments, the public hearing is closed. [2:05:54, 2:05:56]: You can. Come right up, sir. [2:06:03, 2:06:23]: Thank you, Mr. Chair. It it just I'll keep this brief, uh, because we did meet with the number of these individuals last night. Uh but stormwater, we do have two stormwater ponds on the property. And we are required by not only state law but city ordinance as well to capture and reduce the uh flow of stormwater uh from our property. Just I can't hear you. Oh I'm sorry. [2:06:23, 2:06:43]: Is that better? Nothing better. Thank you. We do have two stormwaters on the uh stormwater ponds on the property, one towards uh North Henry Boulevard and then another one to the north uh closer to the creek, and that's just because of the topography of the uh site. But we are required by not only state law uh but city ordinance to capture and retain the stormwater. [2:06:43, 2:07:03]: and release it at a rate that is uh that will not negatively impact the downstream property. So that is something that we are required to do at this stage in a rezoning. Typically we don't have a hydrology study done, but that is something our engineer will look at. And Mr. Wade, uh to his point, he did email email me a list of his comments. We are actively looking at that. One of those comments [2:07:03, 2:07:07]: comments was um he lives in this unit over here. [2:07:07, 2:07:22]: off of Oak Hill Terrace. We are looking at additional buffering uh of the property uh to extend that twenty-five-foot buffer down, as well as uh privacy fencing uh along the uh uh property line with the pool uh to accommodate his request. [2:07:23, 2:07:23]: Or. [2:07:25, 2:07:26]: Are you? [2:07:29, 2:07:43]: Yeah, oh uh one other uh somebody did mention about traffic on North Henry Boulevard. We are proposing a D sell lane. Uh it that has to go through permitting with Georgia DOT since that is a state rideway. Uh but that is something that we are uh proposing to do. [2:07:44, 2:07:45]: Thank you, sir. [2:07:46, 2:07:46]: Thank you. [2:07:51, 2:07:52]: Public hearing is not closed. [2:07:54, 2:08:02]: Therefore I will entertain a motion on comprehensive plan case CP twenty twenty three dash zero nine. [2:08:05, 2:08:07]: I need a motion from commission, please. [2:08:07, 2:08:18]: Mr. Chairman, since these are all combined on one report, can we just take one vote and approve or deny all of them together or do you want to do them individually? I wanna do them individually. I need a motion, please. [2:08:22, 2:08:31]: Mr. Chair, motion to uh motion to approve comprehensive plan amendment case CP dash twenty twenty three dash oh nine. [2:08:32, 2:08:33]: And I'll second it, Harold. [2:08:34, 2:08:44]: It's been moved and seconded that we approve for the comprehensive plan amendment KCP twenty twenty three dash zero nine. Aye. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. [2:08:44, 2:08:45]: Uh [2:08:46, 2:08:47]: Any opposed? [2:08:48, 2:08:48]: No. [2:08:50, 2:08:51]: Any abstentions? [2:08:53, 2:08:58]: Mr Williams, I didn't ma I you in favor? So there were three p three Ya's and one nay. [2:09:00, 2:09:03]: So the motion the uh comprehensive plan amendment case was approved. [2:09:08, 2:09:16]: With regard to rezoning case R Z twenty twenty three dash ten, I need a motion from the commission, please. [2:09:18, 2:09:19]: Mr Chair. Yes, sir. [2:09:20, 2:09:25]: Motion to approve rezoning case R Z dash twenty twenty three dash ten. [2:09:25, 2:09:28]: Is there a second? In Harrow, I'll second it. [2:09:28, 2:09:37]: Thank you. It's been moved in second that we approve the rezoning case RZ 2023-10. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of I. [2:09:37, 2:09:38]: I [2:09:39, 2:09:40]: Any opposed? [2:09:41, 2:09:41]: Okay. [2:09:42, 2:09:50]: We have three ayes and one nay. So the motion passes. Reads only case RZ 2023-10 is approved. [2:09:53, 2:10:00]: In various case R VR twenty twenty three dash oh six. I need a motion from the commission, please. [2:10:02, 2:10:08]: Mr. Chair. Yes, sir. Motion to deny variance case VR dash twenty twenty three dash oh six. [2:10:11, 2:10:22]: There's a motion to deny variance case VR twenty twenty three-0 six. Is there a second? Mr. Chairman, I second. It's been second by Mr. Mitten. All those in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. [2:10:22, 2:10:23]: Uh. [2:10:23, 2:10:24]: Nay. [2:10:26, 2:10:32]: So there are three eyes and one nay for denial. So the variance case has been denied. [2:10:39, 2:10:41]: The vote was [2:10:43, 2:10:50]: For denial of the Varance case was Mr Williams, Mr. Thibodeau, and Mr Mitten. [2:11:00, 2:11:02]: Mr. Planchon up opposed. [2:11:05, 2:11:09]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchon. In case I'm missing something. [2:11:10, 2:11:13]: The variance case is twenty twenty three dash oh five. [2:11:15, 2:11:18]: I see it down here twice, not oh six. [2:11:20, 2:11:22]: What I'm reading says oh six. [2:11:25, 2:11:27]: Page four of the agenda. [2:11:29, 2:11:32]: Yeah, I'm looking at the combined report itself. [2:11:34, 2:11:37]: We have O nine as the [2:11:38, 2:11:45]: I'm reading from the agenda, sir. The agenda governs what's being conducted tonight. Okay. Thank you, sir. [2:11:51, 2:11:55]: Are there any project updates from staff or staff comments? [2:11:56, 2:11:56]: None. [2:11:58, 2:12:00]: Any comments from the board? [2:12:04, 2:12:06]: No comments from the board? [2:12:07, 2:12:10]: The meeting stands adjourned. Thank you. Have a good night.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-01-08 source: 2024-01-08_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:12:06, 0:12:26]: Any unaccountable public money? Any unaccountable public money. Do unpayable to the state. Do and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold. Nor do I hold. Any other office of trust? Any other office of trust of the government of the United States. [0:12:26, 0:12:46]: United States of the government of the United States of this state of this state or any foreign state as prescribed as prescribed by the law by the law of the state of Georgia of the State of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge of the City of Stockbridge. In the best of my ability, in the best of my ability. [0:12:46, 0:13:00]: Without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward, expectations there are. And this is the eighth day of January, 2024. On this eighth day of January, 2024. Congratulations. Thank you. [0:13:00, 0:13:01]: [783.0, 784.0]: All right. [0:13:05, 0:13:05]: Okay. [0:13:06, 0:13:18]: Now we all signed this document by w we can uh cut into time. If you have any particular comments, please go ahead and do that in time. Okay. [0:13:19, 0:13:22]: I'm I'm happy to help. You want to say something passive? [0:13:22, 0:13:29]: Uh just wanted to say I'm happy to help. I've been a resident of Stockbury since two thousand one and I'm looking forward to helping out. [0:13:32, 0:13:42]: Um this is my second term. It's been a pleasure working for the city of Stockbridge, most um importantly with the youth, and I'm just ready for another two years. Thank you. [0:13:43, 0:13:45]: Thank you for your service. Thank you. [0:13:49, 0:13:56]: Did uh you did you want to say anything? You're good? All right, all right. So yeah, you all can come forward and sign these documents, please. [0:13:57, 0:14:00]: Yeah, I think we'll ask it okay. [0:14:34, 0:14:36]: [877.4, 897.0]: If you're done, that'll be fine. You can be more than welcome to stay as long as you like. Thank you. Okay, you're welcome. Okay. Ms. Holiday, if we have to give you a document that once everything is. Oh yeah, okay. Downtown Defense Authority, Mr. Warren Washington, are you here sir? No. Mr. Washington? [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: Robert Anderson. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: Ms. Mayor? [0:15:08, 0:15:09]: Yeah. [0:15:09, 0:15:15]: Darrow stamper? I got this done right? [0:15:18, 0:15:24]: Okay, okay. Well wait a minute. So you're only a tank was sorry. So [0:15:26, 0:15:32]: We'll wait just a little bit to rest specifically for what people want to stand by what's the what? [0:15:33, 0:15:39]: See here. Okay. Main Street Advisory Board. Um [0:15:40, 0:15:41]: Then the Jones. [0:15:42, 0:15:43]: Okay, there we go. [0:15:44, 0:15:45]: Right. [0:15:47, 0:15:50]: This is first salari. [0:15:56, 0:15:57]: Vanessa Gibson? [0:16:10, 0:16:18]: Okay. If I'm just going that way. Good. [0:16:19, 0:16:20]: [982.4, 986.3]: Okay, here's that one go through. [0:16:29, 0:16:30]: How do you? [0:16:32, 0:16:35]: So [0:16:35, 0:16:40]: [1002.9, 1004.2]: Yeah, yeah. [0:16:51, 0:16:51]: Yeah. [0:16:55, 0:16:57]: Right. [0:17:00, 0:17:03]: You're Miss Brunett, right? I am. You are. [0:17:05, 0:17:25]: Good job. All right. So you you've you've all been down this road before, so we're gonna go down do this. So everybody raise your right hand. Okay. Here we go. I and state your name. I'm the presence. Board member. Board member. Do you solemnly swear and affirm? Do you sold me swear and confirm? That will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the main street of [0:17:25, 0:17:45]: Advisory board. The duties of the Main Street Advisory Board. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will. And that I will to the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend the chair excuse me, the charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. And the laws of the state of Georgia. And the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:17:45, 0:18:05]: United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. Any unaccounted for public money. Do unpayable to the state. Do or payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. [0:18:05, 0:18:25]: The city of Stockbridge or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold any other office of trust of trust of the government of the United States. Of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, if ascribed by the law of the state of Georgia. [0:18:25, 0:18:45]: I'll perform my du excuse me. I will perform the duties. I will be of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge of the City of Stockbridge in the best of my ability. Without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward, or expectation thereof. Expectation thereof. [0:18:44, 0:18:49]: January twenty twenty four. [0:19:00, 0:19:01]: Oh thank you. [0:19:05, 0:19:09]: Then we need to do that. [0:19:10, 0:19:14]: Camille, can you bring us the ice herbs? [0:19:15, 0:19:15]: This is OS here. [0:19:17, 0:19:20]: Try you. [0:19:29, 0:19:46]: Met your met your partner at Queen King Auditor. Why we're doing this, does anybody you don't have to go yet do anything you want to say to the audience here? In reference, please? Do you have the words of wisdom? [0:19:46, 0:19:55]: I know. How deep can we go? Uh I just wanna say I've been a member of this board since twenty fifteen, from its exception inception. It's been a pleasure to serve and [0:19:55, 0:20:04]: We are looking forward to continue to grow and have our downtown continue to be identifiable and the best in the county of Henry. Thank you. [0:20:06, 0:20:16]: Uh good evening. I'm Andrea Burnett and I represent the board for my small business powerhouse pest control. It is indeed a privilege to serve and we appreciate the opportunity. [0:20:18, 0:20:32]: I'm Linda Jones. I've been on the board since twenty fifteen and it is a privilege to serve and connect with the community. I am a downtown owner of CNL Beauty Salon and I also own a nonprofit, which is feeding God's people. Thank you. [0:20:35, 0:20:38]: Good even good evening, distinguished citizens. How y'all doing? [0:20:40, 0:20:51]: Uh my name is Willie Hopkins. Uh this is my third term on the board and I get to serve as the chairman of Main Street Advisor Board. I would say we will continue to be the hardest working board in the city of Stockbridge. [0:20:51, 0:20:58]: To help revitalize downtown and continue to support the council as they set forth their vision for this city. Thank you. [0:21:05, 0:21:08]: Ms. George from Sean, are you here? [0:21:12, 0:21:17]: And uh this coming cut. [0:21:20, 0:21:23]: Yeah, uh [0:21:25, 0:21:32]: So we once again um [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: Downtown a little authority. [0:21:35, 0:21:36]: Spend it. [0:21:37, 0:21:38]: Want to come up our circle? [0:21:38, 0:21:40]: Good. [0:21:46, 0:21:47]: It's meant to. [0:21:48, 0:21:48]: Just go. [0:21:49, 0:21:49]: See that. [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: Yeah, just try to see. [0:21:52, 0:21:53]: Robert Edison. [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: I mean Mr. Washington is. [0:22:05, 0:22:06]: And so [0:22:07, 0:22:15]: Okay. Alright, so I guess what we'll do by yourself at this point. Okay. [0:22:15, 0:22:20]: Uh raise your right hand and s uh repeat after me. I state your name. I Daryl State. [0:22:20, 0:22:40]: Board member? Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the downtown development authority. The duties of the downtown development authority. Of the city of Stockbridge. That I will to the best of my ability. Support and defend the charter thereof. The charter thereof as well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. [0:22:40, 0:22:45]: And United States of America. [0:22:45, 0:23:05]: I further affirm that that upon assumption of this office I do not hold any that I do not hold any any counterforward public money counterforward public money due and payable to the stateable to the state any political subdivision of the state any political subdivision the city of Stockbridge or any authority thereof nor do I hold [0:23:05, 0:23:25]: Any other office of trust? Any other office of trust of the government of the government of the United States? Of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state, as prescribed, as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. I solemnly affirm. I solemnly affirmly affirm that I'm fate that I'm fully qualified. Yeah, I'm fully qualified. Under the Constitution. [0:23:25, 0:23:34]: And the laws of the state to hold the office of the downtown development authority board member. To hold the office of the downtown development board member. [0:23:34, 0:23:54]: And that I and that I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability without fear without fear favor affection reward or expectation thereof or expectation thereof eighth day of January 2024. Eighth day of January 2024. [0:23:54, 0:23:56]: I'd like to thank you, sir. Okay. [0:23:57, 0:23:57]: Yeah. [0:23:59, 0:24:01]: It's very good. [0:24:05, 0:24:08]: want to address two audience here and uh wizard you might have [0:24:09, 0:24:20]: Um so I've been um in Henry County since twenty twenty one. Um I'm just happy to be a pillar in the community. Um and thanks for having me. [0:24:21, 0:24:23]: Thank you, sir. [0:24:30, 0:24:31]: What about it? [0:24:32, 0:24:36]: So is Mr. Collins or uh is George uh [0:24:36, 0:24:40]: Arrived yet? Mr. Collins and Mr. Joel. [0:24:42, 0:24:49]: Okay? Ms. Bannison, Miss Merritt, or Mr. Warren Washington. [0:24:51, 0:24:55]: Yeah, you can bring it better. [0:25:10, 0:25:13]: And you can see that. [0:25:20, 0:25:25]: We can either make up all the rest of those or do we miss them? [0:25:25, 0:25:30]: Right, so yeah, [0:25:41, 0:25:45]: Right. [0:25:46, 0:25:47]: Yeah. [0:25:50, 0:25:51]: You do that. [0:25:53, 0:25:56]: Is it wrong? [0:25:59, 0:26:03]: Oh yeah, we we talked about that today, we talked about just problem. [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: Yeah. [0:26:26, 0:26:34]: All right, please uh stand by folks. We have a couple other things we need to do and before we get started. It's a mother swearing copy, please. [0:26:55, 0:26:58]: Okay, so just [0:27:00, 0:27:01]: Yeah. [0:27:04, 0:27:10]: Happy birthday Dr. K. Thank you for being wonderful women still. Thank you for being [0:27:43, 0:27:44]: I don't see. [0:28:42, 0:28:45]: [1734.2, 1737.9]: Yeah, we're gonna be able to do that. [0:29:40, 0:29:50]: I think this is my bag. This is my that's fine. Yeah. So right click on that exact. [0:32:22, 0:32:25]: Yes there. [0:32:52, 0:32:53]: That was a [0:33:47, 0:33:49]: Yeah, yeah. [0:34:16, 0:34:18]: Oh yeah, please. [0:34:19, 0:34:20]: Don't be in the dog. [0:34:36, 0:34:37]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. [0:34:38, 0:34:40]: The council's in place. [0:34:45, 0:34:49]: Ladies and gentlemen, please, I want to call the our council meeting. [0:34:49, 0:34:55]: January eighth, first meeting of our calendar year of twenty twenty four. [0:34:56, 0:35:16]: I'm calling the meeting to order. Happy New Year to everybody. And uh and uh I look forward as well as the council and I imagine you all look forward to a very prosperous uh prosperous new year in the city of Stockbridge. And the first order of business will be the swearing in of uh council members Ellen Alexander, Yolanda Barber and Mr. Kyle Berry. [0:35:16, 0:35:17]: And uh [0:35:17, 0:35:22]: Judge McCord, sir, please come forward and i in issue that uh oath of office. [0:35:26, 0:35:28]: Okay. Come on down please. [0:36:00, 0:36:01]: Yeah. [0:36:01, 0:36:21]: All right, if you will raise your right hand for me and repeat after me. I state your name. I shall be do solemnly swear or affirm. Do solemnly swear or affirm. That I will faithfully perform the duties. That I will faithfully perform the duties. Of council member of the city of Stockbridge. Council member of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best. [0:36:21, 0:36:41]: Of my ability. That I will to the best of my ability. Support and defend the charter thereof. Support and defend the charter thereof. As well as the Constitution and Laws of the State of Georgia. As well as the Constitution and Laws of the State of Georgia. And the United States of America. And the United States of America. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. [0:36:41, 0:36:50]: Further affirm that upon assumption of this office, I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:36:50, 0:37:10]: Due and payable to the state. Due and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Any authority thereof. Nor do I hold any other office of trust. Nor do I hold any other office of trust of the government of the United States. [0:37:10, 0:37:21]: government of the United States, of this state, or this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state, as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. As prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. [0:37:21, 0:37:41]: I solemnly affirmly affirm that I'm fully qualified under the constitution and laws of the state of the state to hold the office of council members of council member and that I have been a resident and that I have been a resident of the city of Stockbridge for the entire [0:37:41, 0:38:01]: Period of time required by the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability to the best of my ability whether [0:38:01, 0:38:10]: Without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. Congratulations. [0:38:27, 0:38:33]: Let's just do a lot of things. [0:38:35, 0:38:36]: Okay, so what happened? [0:38:38, 0:38:48]: So you okay, it says appointment of you, second assistance okay, appointment of the city auditor, you said appointment only to the judge and solicitor, that's honest. City attorney. [0:38:50, 0:38:54]: Wait, wait, wait no wa wa hold on a second. [0:39:19, 0:39:28]: No off a whole biblical number you would set. No take the trend. [0:39:30, 0:39:31]: Just keep it across it. [0:39:48, 0:39:51]: Pastor Gaddis? Pastor Gaddis present? [0:39:54, 0:39:55]: Okay. [0:39:59, 0:40:01]: Yes sir. [0:40:01, 0:40:08]: Well actually that's what was coming next. That was actually coming next. Mr. Berry, I need for you to give the invocation, sir. Okay. [0:40:11, 0:40:13]: Ple the invocation, please stand folks if you can. [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: That was three. [0:40:20, 0:40:40]: Dear God, tonight we thank you for the city of Stockbridge and all of its residents, the leadership. Lord, we ask that you would order our footsteps in your word. Lord, we need you to be sovereign over every action that we take because you alone, Lord God, are worthy of every praise. And so tonight, Lord God, we ask that all the affairs of every business [0:40:40, 0:40:50]: matter for the city of Stockbridge be done with you in mind. That we keep you first and we give all purpose and all honor and all glory to your majestic name. [0:40:52, 0:41:12]: So in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. To the Pledge of Allegiance, Pledge Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:41:11, 0:41:12]: Yeah. [0:41:14, 0:41:15]: Roll call, please. [0:41:23, 0:41:37]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Berry. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a form. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. [0:41:38, 0:41:43]: Okay. Um council I need adoption uh to the agenda for this evening, please. [0:41:45, 0:41:46]: Is there so move? [0:41:47, 0:41:48]: There's there a second. [0:41:48, 0:41:51]: A second. Okay, Ms. Barber, second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:41:51, 0:41:52]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: What you have before you council would be the [0:41:56, 0:42:10]: Adoption of the minutes from a council meeting November thirteenth, the council work session November twenty eighth, and also the December work uh council meeting, December eleventh. If there are any changes, I need a motion to accept those into the record. [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: Is there a second? [0:42:15, 0:42:23]: Okay, Ms. Barrett, Mr. Berry, second half from Alexander, Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate? Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Madam Clerk, do we have any uh [0:42:23, 0:42:25]: Public comments at all. [0:42:25, 0:42:45]: Public comment mayor. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, you all most likely, if you hear earlier, you witnessed um our ceremonial process uh for the month of dis of January and we had several different appointments that were made besides a swearing excuse me besides the uh actual reading of the proclamation. [0:42:45, 0:42:46]: For Martin Luther King. [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: Holiday. [0:42:48, 0:42:48]: And as you [0:42:49, 0:43:05]: most likely know that Stockbridge is the ancestral home of the King family, so we're extremely proud of the fact that we have a national holiday for one of our nation's histories that has his roots embedded in Stockbridge right here in Henry County. And so I just um in a sense would ask [0:43:06, 0:43:26]: That if if you please, during the course of this holiday weekend, uh get out and enjoy and and uh the holidays and be a public service and uh serve in a sense uh or assist some other folks and like Dr. King would in this aspect to at least um take part in that particular holiday activities. There's a lot of different activities going [0:43:25, 0:43:28]: going on during the course of the of the holiday weekend. [0:43:30, 0:43:50]: Um we have several different um swah swearing ins for board members that uh have taken on uh responsible different responsibilities uh within the uh the city and so the downtown development authority uh we're here, uh youth council, the the actual youth council, advisory [0:43:49, 0:44:09]: Youth Advisory Council, the Citywide, Citywide Authority, Development Authority. Appreciate your service to our to our city. [0:44:09, 0:44:29]: I believe uh and of course our council members are sworn in for their four-year terms as well. Um I believe I got all the all those boards in this aspect, but uh thank you for being here and thank you for serving. Um what we have going on next would be organizational appointments and the first would be [0:44:29, 0:44:39]: the appointment of our city clerk. Um there's a motion to appoint our city clerk uh for another year, which was currently Vanessa Holiday. [0:44:39, 0:44:55]: Mayor. Yep. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. So moved. Is there a second? Ms. Barber second. All favor, please indicate? Unanimous decision. All right, then uh our executive assistant to mayor council, Miss Rosalind Rawls. Is there a motion to appoint her for an for another year? [0:44:56, 0:45:09]: So moved. Okay, is there a second? Second. Mr. Alzheimer's secondat from Kant Alzheimer, all in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. A city auditor. Is there a motion? Yes, sir. [0:45:10, 0:45:19]: I motion to place the auditor out for bid to be brought back to the city council for selection at the March fourth council meeting. [0:45:20, 0:45:25]: All right. Uh Miss Barber, second that. Uh arm in favor, please indicate. [0:45:26, 0:45:28]: Okay, all okay, all pose? [0:45:29, 0:45:43]: Sustain? I abstain. Okay. And and I abstain for several reasons. I've never seen us appoint a city auditor at our first council meeting. So I do have some concerns and a lot of things were just kind of thrown in at the last minute. [0:45:43, 0:46:01]: Okay, Mr. Alexander, do you you you were you for, against, or sustained? I vote against it. Excuse me? I voted against it. Okay, so it's 311. Uh the motion uh passes to uh to put this out for bid and have come back on March 4th, you said sir. Is that correct? That is correct. Okay. All righty. Uh let's see here. [0:46:02, 0:46:13]: Appointment of our city attorney. And so Mr. Washington and it is law firm, uh Dyer law firm and Samantha is part of that uh firm. Is there a motion to uh to approve this? [0:46:17, 0:46:25]: I motion to approve um Mr. Quentin Washington and and Dry what is it, Washington and Dryer? Dreer? [0:46:26, 0:46:32]: Washington and dryer associates. Second. Okay, Mr. I was asking all in favor, please indicate. All opposed? [0:46:32, 0:46:39]: I abstain. I have some concerns, questions that I've asked that have not been addressed. [0:46:41, 0:46:43]: Okay, four zero one the motion passed. [0:46:44, 0:46:45]: Thank you. [0:46:45, 0:46:50]: Alrighty, and then uh selection of the mayor pro tem. Council? [0:46:51, 0:46:58]: Mayor Floor. Yes, Mayor. I'd like to make a motion to appoint um Councilman Derrick. [0:46:59, 0:47:00]: Okay, yeah. [0:47:01, 0:47:02]: Okay. [0:47:03, 0:47:15]: Mr okay. Um all right. From uh for Councilman Berry it goes from um uh Mayor uh well uh Landa Barmer to uh Father Thomas, uh council members. All right, any further discussion? [0:47:16, 0:47:17]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [0:47:18, 0:47:23]: Um we had a discussion on email today in regards to the way things went. [0:47:24, 0:47:44]: And I love Councilman Berry and n no offense to you, Councilman Berry, but we've had a particular rotation in order. And I believe that my last time being on as Mayor Pro Tem was in twenty eighteen. And after me is Councilman Blount, which Councilman Berry is taking [0:47:44, 0:47:56]: his position. And so I would ask council to consider, um, my councilmates, Councilman Berry and Councilman Alexander, to and as well as others to consider us continuing to stay in that order. [0:47:57, 0:47:58]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:47:59, 0:47:59]: Wait, please. [0:48:01, 0:48:11]: There is no reference of in the charter. There's no reference of a rotation [0:48:12, 0:48:15]: There is no policy of such. [0:48:16, 0:48:18]: The charter says [0:48:19, 0:48:21]: The council shall [0:48:22, 0:48:23]: A point [0:48:24, 0:48:25]: Amir Pro Team. [0:48:27, 0:48:28]: I believe [0:48:29, 0:48:31]: That the intent [0:48:33, 0:48:34]: Of our forefathers. [0:48:35, 0:48:36]: With this [0:48:37, 0:48:39]: Was to make sure that the [0:48:40, 0:48:42]: The castle. [0:48:43, 0:48:45]: Selected someone [0:48:46, 0:49:04]: that they feel was appropriate for the position. I I think this is why they left it that way. Um a person that the consensus of the council um would approve. Um [0:49:05, 0:49:06]: Respect it. [0:49:07, 0:49:08]: Qualifications. [0:49:09, 0:49:10]: Capability [0:49:11, 0:49:12]: Etcetera, et cetera. [0:49:13, 0:49:15]: And I believe this is why. [0:49:16, 0:49:17]: The forefathers. [0:49:18, 0:49:20]: wrote this that way. [0:49:21, 0:49:24]: And it again, it only says [0:49:25, 0:49:27]: The council shall [0:49:28, 0:49:29]: A point. [0:49:30, 0:49:31]: Amir Pro Tem. [0:49:31, 0:49:33]: There's not a policy. [0:49:34, 0:49:35]: Anywhere [0:49:35, 0:49:55]: That speaks to rotation. Thank you. Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Certainly, my contention is there needs to be a policy. Politics needs to be removed from the ceremonial position. It needs to be rotated around so that, you know, I personally I speak for myself. Six years I served on this council. [0:49:55, 0:50:15]: And it was not designated to me because of politics. That should never ever ever happen again. No one should ever be in that position. It should rotate around. And I would ask that my colleagues consider setting the policy so that it is all that way uh in the future. I certainly would [0:50:14, 0:50:34]: uh encourage uh us to do that to establish that so that no one is set up here because my friend said that I should be mayor pro tem, I should be mayor pro tem, or I don't like you, you shouldn't be mayor pro tem. The county commissioners set that bar and they rotate it every year, whether it's a Republican or a [0:50:34, 0:50:54]: Democrat or whomever it is, they rotated every year. I think we should establish that precedence as well. And the ranking order should be Miss Gantt, then Mr. Berry, then that would be followed up with myself, and then that would be Councilman Thomas, and then that would be Miss Barber, who is the current. [0:50:54, 0:51:14]: Mayor Pro Tem. That should be the protocol. We shouldn't have people seeking this position in the election year and that kind of thing. It should be rotated around and those positions should be elected. And I and I call on the council to execute that and that hus to be in uh so [0:51:14, 0:51:27]: [3087.3, 3094.2]: By the charter, the mayor pro tem functions in the capacity of the mayor, yours truly, happens to be not available. [0:51:34, 0:51:54]: incapacitated, uh if I didn't want to do something and the council needed to act on an issue, that individual would act in in that capacity. Uh now six years thus far being the mayor, the mayor pro tem has not functioned that often and because I've been present uh primarily in meetings, I very soft would mates in the meetings or any other act [0:51:54, 0:52:14]: Actions that I have to occur to. But that's what the mayor pro tem does. It's an appointment by the council to function in that capacity, to be like the vice mayor per se, for those actions that for some reason I am not able to execute or execute my duties and responsibilities. [0:52:14, 0:52:18]: Mr. Thomas Quare, please. Thank you. Uh Mayor Ford. [0:52:19, 0:52:20]: When I [0:52:21, 0:52:23]: put something out to [0:52:25, 0:52:27]: Motion to discuss this. [0:52:28, 0:52:31]: I was told by my colleague [0:52:31, 0:52:35]: that we should discuss this in executive session. [0:52:36, 0:52:38]: But I see now that [0:52:40, 0:52:42]: Council wants to discuss this. [0:52:43, 0:52:45]: I pulled back on my emotions. [0:52:46, 0:52:48]: Because I respect it. [0:52:49, 0:52:50]: Council's concern. [0:52:51, 0:52:52]: Two [0:52:53, 0:52:56]: discuss how we select [0:52:56, 0:52:59]: the mayor pro tem in executive session. [0:52:59, 0:53:02]: So I would respectfully [0:53:04, 0:53:05]: Encourage counsel. [0:53:06, 0:53:10]: to take the advice that was given to me. Thank you, sir. [0:53:10, 0:53:11]: All right. [0:53:12, 0:53:16]: Any other comments since uh talking going down this road? [0:53:16, 0:53:17]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:53:19, 0:53:23]: That's okay. Mayor Protein. I mean Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [0:53:23, 0:53:43]: I don't know what we're talking about about executive session as far as the mayor pro tem is concerned. Um, I we have went through this and we actually if you go back and look at some of our videos and meetings and other minutes, even though it's written in the charter that we are to select a mayor pro tem, we have agreed. [0:53:43, 0:53:51]: To rotate. In fact, last year we the year before last we stated that it was Councilwoman Barber's turn. [0:53:51, 0:53:55]: And Councilwoman Barber said, Well, I elect not to do it that term. [0:53:56, 0:54:10]: And so we had begun a process. And so I'm gonna ask you, Mayor, um, if you don't recall that we agreed that we were gonna start rotating. Um, I believe you've spoken to me this year and stated this past year and stated that this year would be [0:54:11, 0:54:12]: Um my turn. [0:54:13, 0:54:33]: And I feel kind of child it feels kind of childish to come up here and have to go back. It's kind of a a insult. I've been on council for eleven years, um uh a local attorney, and uh you Councilman Thomas, you yourself have voted on items based off of my word that contract agreements are okay. [0:54:33, 0:54:47]: And so I've done I've helped you with your campaigns and help you with some legal matters and I honestly believe that I'm qualified for this position at this time. And so what I'm here to say is I think [0:54:47, 0:54:48]: That [0:54:48, 0:54:50]: I agree with Councilman Alexander. [0:54:51, 0:54:58]: There's no I'm not going to sling mud here. I'm not in the position to do that. I think that [0:54:59, 0:55:00]: As I've written [0:55:01, 0:55:03]: In the emails just recently [0:55:04, 0:55:06]: Twenty twenty four. [0:55:06, 0:55:19]: We need to stop the alliances. It's not about alliances. It's about doing the alliance of what's in the best interest of Stockbridge. And so with that, I just want you to take that into consideration. [0:55:20, 0:55:40]: All right. On that note, yes, Mr. Thomas is right. There's nothing outlined in the charter that indicates that. Once once again, on the second note, uh you are right. I didn't mention before in this aspect that somehow over the course of time it has rotated. It's unofficial in a sense, it's not an official type of policy, has rotated different council members over the course of the years. And yes, I did mention to you that figure [0:55:40, 0:56:00]: So yes, I did say that, and yes, that is supportable, but you know it's up to the will of the council. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure. Right. Mayor Ford. It has been moved and seconded. Yes, I have been, but I don't know. [0:56:00, 0:56:02]: I got it. It has me. Yes, Mr. Berry, go ahead, please. [0:56:02, 0:56:22]: Just for comment sake, uh I will say this. I know you said that it was stated, it was agreed upon in word indeed is not a part of the policy, but if in fact this council did agree on it and their words are their words, ethics and integrity must matter. They must matter. And so even if it's not in policy, even if it was stated in an [0:56:22, 0:56:28]: agreement uh ethics matter and so I would put that out as uh my [0:56:28, 0:56:30]: Official position. [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: That if we say something it it should mean something. [0:56:33, 0:56:48]: Okay, sir. Um I wa yeah, because we need to move on, folks. We got a public hearing we need to take care of. There's got plenty of folks right here for the public hearing. Uh stamp stand by. Stand by. Ms. Barber, go ahead. [0:56:48, 0:56:56]: Okay, so I want us to move on from this. Okay. But I will say when um I came on board. [0:56:56, 0:56:57]: My first term. [0:56:58, 0:57:01]: When this whole idea of rotating the mere pro chim. [0:57:02, 0:57:02]: Um [0:57:03, 0:57:06]: I don't believe Councilwoman Gantt supported it. [0:57:07, 0:57:09]: She didn't support it because [0:57:09, 0:57:12]: It was Councilman Alexander's turn. [0:57:14, 0:57:18]: I don't support rotating the mirror protein because [0:57:19, 0:57:22]: Whenever we have an election you have a new [0:57:22, 0:57:24]: person on the council. [0:57:25, 0:57:28]: That new person may not necessarily be comfortable. [0:57:28, 0:57:29]: As of yet. [0:57:30, 0:57:31]: Mr. Bear certainly is. [0:57:32, 0:57:36]: That is why I feel comfortable and confident in his ability. [0:57:37, 0:57:38]: If the council [0:57:38, 0:57:40]: In their discussions prior to [0:57:41, 0:57:42]: Tonight's meeting. [0:57:42, 0:57:43]: Agreed. [0:57:44, 0:57:45]: It didn't include me. [0:57:46, 0:57:49]: Nonetheless, I don't support rotating it. [0:57:51, 0:57:53]: Нали що ви консир [0:57:53, 0:57:56]: rotating as a way to be fair. [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: There are other factors we need to consider. [0:57:59, 0:58:00]: Not just rotating. [0:58:01, 0:58:02]: The title. [0:58:02, 0:58:04]: It's not about a title for me. [0:58:06, 0:58:26]: So that's all. I'd like for us to move forward with the motion that's already on the floor. Please. I appreciate that. We do need to move on. Yeah. Okay, Mr. Alessander. Yeah, I'd just like to call on Mr. Berry to make the decision. We certainly need to move forward from this. I'd ask him that you respectfully ask Mr. Thomas to withdraw the motion so that we [0:58:26, 0:58:46]: Can nominate Miss Gantt so we don't have to vote. I don't think we should vote on this. I think we certainly wouldn't want to vote negative or or affirmative. Uh Mayor Pro Tem should be really should be five to zero. And that's why I said we should get the politics out of this. This is a game. This is not a game. We should make it and [0:58:46, 0:59:03]: in the terms that it is, it should be five to zero every time. It should rotate s uh systematically to the next person and it should be a five to zero vote. I understand the politics of the past when the Mayor Pro Tem position was withheld from me. [0:59:03, 0:59:23]: I respect the fact that Ms. Gatt has now seen and understands that, you know what, when the votes are on the other side, it matters. And from this point forward, that means that we're making a step forward, which is she agrees that from now this point forward, every person should rotate this. [0:59:23, 0:59:43]: And we should move it into a matter accordingly so that the next person receive it. That would be appropriate, and Miss Gantt would receive it this year, Mr. Berry would receive it next year. And that would set a precedence for us and it will set the policy as that being the thing, so that people aren't competing for the position. [0:59:43, 1:00:01]: And that it does not become political in any way. I suggest again, Mr. Berry, you ask m Mr. Thomas to withdraw the motion or that we refuse to vote that you refuse to vote on this and we abstain and that that certainly that there there would be no vote if the three of us abstained. [1:00:02, 1:00:15]: Well I wouldn't suggest not abstaining. We need to move on. We we need to move on with the mayor pro time just in case something happens to me. I I certainly d believe that I wouldn't withdraw I think we should withdraw the motion and then have a second motion made. [1:00:16, 1:00:25]: Since I've been referenced and I've been asked a question. I asked Mr Very Yeah, I know I know what you Mayor Ford and Council. [1:00:27, 1:00:28]: I would not [1:00:29, 1:00:36]: I would not remove my recommendation. And I and I heard someone say that it this is the mess and I agree. [1:00:37, 1:00:45]: It was stated that we should discuss this in executive session. And and that's what I w hold to and lastly let me say [1:00:45, 1:00:54]: I have never been in favor of rotation because I'm adhering to the charter. [1:00:54, 1:01:07]: I took a oath to adhere to the charge and and that's what I'm doing. So that's that's my last comment. Mr. I'll tell you what, Mr. Berry, yeah, I hate to put you in the spot, but you can actually uh of uh accept or deny. [1:01:08, 1:01:09]: Or whatever you like to do. [1:01:09, 1:01:29]: For the sake of the business of of this meeting, we do need to move on. And I and I I don't believe that we will get a unanimous regardless of the decision that's made. I will not withdraw. All right. All right. Now [1:01:29, 1:01:34]: Mo motion's been made's been motion's been made, been second. All in favor of Mr. Berry being a mayor pro tem. [1:01:35, 1:01:36]: All post. [1:01:36, 1:01:54]: I'll abstain. I abstain. Okay, three zero two. We move on, Mr. Barries and Mayor Pro Tem. Congratulations. Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Now what we have before us, we have a couple issues here, a couple different uh public hearings. Now for the public hearing ruling, uh please mute all your cell phones and other electronic devices. [1:01:55, 1:02:03]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight on public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table a and hand it to the city clerk for approaching the podium. [1:02:04, 1:02:07]: Oh you know what? Stand by please. Stand by. I'm sorry. [1:02:07, 1:02:08]: I did forget something. [1:02:10, 1:02:12]: The appointment of the judge, Judge McCourt. [1:02:13, 1:02:22]: Is there a motion as to uh uh appoint Judge McCord? Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we amend the agenda to add the appointment of the judge and the solicitor. [1:02:22, 1:02:26]: Okay. Okay, is there s there a second to that motion? A second. All in favor, please indicate. [1:02:27, 1:02:31]: Okay, Nam C okay now. Um you need appointment of the of the judge McCour, please. [1:02:32, 1:02:32]: Officially. [1:02:33, 1:02:36]: Okay, Miss Gantt, I mean Miss Barber, is there a second? [1:02:37, 1:02:40]: I second. Ms Ms. Gantt second all favor, please indicate. [1:02:40, 1:02:45]: She Nancy Sization. Thank you very very thank you very much. Also the uh appointment of the solicitor, Miss Uh Julie Kirk. [1:02:46, 1:02:49]: Mayor, I move that we appoint the solicitor, Ms. Judy Clark. [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: Okay, is there a second? Ms. Barber second that all favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Okay, now now let's go back to public hearing. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for your patience here. Um once again, public hearing rules. Please mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anybody wishes to speak tonight on public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the [1:03:09, 1:03:11]: City Clerk before approaching a podium. [1:03:12, 1:03:32]: After each case is called, the city can the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and their representative regarding proposed plans for property along with any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an [1:03:32, 1:03:52]: Opportunity to do so. Each side will be allocated 10 minutes total. Additional time may be extended with the discretion of the counsel. Please keep comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual or group. Please refrain from any applause, comments, [1:03:52, 1:04:10]: For from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer, which is me, and never to the members of the council, staff, or audience. All comments may be made from the podium where you'll be required to state your name and address for the record. [1:04:11, 1:04:21]: Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply with will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if the if you deviate from these proceedings. [1:04:25, 1:04:45]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use entire 10 minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. The presiding officer will [1:04:45, 1:04:56]: will call for the motion and a second to the motion and have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for a vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [1:04:58, 1:05:18]: Our first public hearing deals with the annexation case AX 2305 located in Council District 5. Council consideration to request an annexation of certain property on Brandon Road to allow for the construction of single-family detached residential development, a subdivision. The applicant is [1:05:18, 1:05:33]: Poulte Group Incorporated, CO is Battle Group PC. The property contains four process of landlots, two and three of District 7. It's also listed below with 134, 134.31 uh total acres unincorporated Henry County. [1:05:36, 1:05:56]: Nine forty one Brandon Road, parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero five five zero zero zero contains five acres. One uh one one zero zero Brandon Road, parcel number zero eight eight dash zero two zero five seven zero zero zero to include the southwestern track, which contains twenty nine point [1:05:56, 1:06:16]: Parcel number zero eight eight dash zero two zero five six zero zero zero contains eighty seven point three three acres and parcel zero seven zero dash zero one zero zero five zero zero one contains twelve point eight nine acres presented by the community development staff but before you [1:06:15, 1:06:35]: Does that once again accompany the planned amendment case CP 22 2023-06, once again located in Council District 5. And Council consideration to request for a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land use designation of a low-density residential to a certain property in Brandon Road to allow for the construction of single-family. [1:06:35, 1:06:37]: Detached residential development. [1:06:39, 1:06:59]: And also we will mention the rezoning case, RZ-2023-07, once again located in Council District 5. Council consideration to request for rezoning of the sign of the zoning district SR suburban residential district to certain property on Brandon Road to allow for the construction of the single family. [1:06:59, 1:07:19]: detached residential development once again a subdivision and applicant of courses polte group co battle group pc and property contains four property contains four parcels of landlots two three of district seven and listed below with 134.31 total acres and on a corporate uh county area mr ryan anderson [1:07:19, 1:07:20]: Please. [1:07:22, 1:07:24]: Parents sort of process. [1:07:25, 1:07:26]: Yeah. [1:07:27, 1:07:30]: Oh well. Thank you, Ms. All right. Okay. [1:07:32, 1:07:43]: Cur the current use of the property is uh on one tract of land you have one single family resident and the rest of the land is vacant and heavy wooded. The current zoning, the current county zoning. [1:07:44, 1:08:02]: For 941 and 1100 Brandon Road, it's RA Residential Agriculture. And for parcel, track 07-01005-001, it's single family residential R3. The county land use designation is low density residential. [1:08:03, 1:08:15]: and low and medium residential and low density residential and medium dis density residential for the four tracks. Right here you can see an aerial photo of the four tracks of land. [1:08:20, 1:08:29]: Adjacent property to the north is Residential Agriculture, Henry County. Properties to the south is PUD, City of Stock Bridge. [1:08:29, 1:08:49]: MFR Multifamily Residential City of Stockbridge. SR Suburban Residential City of Stockbridge. All these are properties to the south. Properties to the east are R2 Single Family Residential in Henry County. RA Residential Agriculture in Henry County. And property to the to the west is R3 Single Family Henry County. [1:08:49, 1:08:55]: Multifamily residential Henry County and OI, City of Stockbridge, which is office institutional. [1:08:56, 1:08:58]: Here is a copy of the zoning map. [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: And you can see that most of the properties are R A and R3. [1:09:09, 1:09:19]: Also the surrounding future land use, the single family residential to the north and low and medium density residential. [1:09:20, 1:09:40]: Also, the existing land use to the south, you have the Hickory Flat Elementary School, the Clark Meadow Subdivision, and Moss Point Subdivision. The existing land use is public institutional, low density residential, and low density residential. Properties to the east, you have single-family residences, the Providence Harbor Subdivision, and you have [1:09:40, 1:09:57]: Low density residential Henry County and low density residential Henry County. Properties to the west, you got Carlisle at Rockport Subdivision and St. Andrews at Rockport. The land use is medium density residential Henry County and Medium Density Residential Henry County. [1:10:00, 1:10:06]: Here's the top of the um a picture of the uh future land use map, and you can see that it's all compatible. [1:10:12, 1:10:25]: Uh, the project information, the applicant proposed to build a subdivision with 161 single-family detached lots with 22 guest parking spaces and amenities, like a playground and a 10-foot multi-use path. [1:10:26, 1:10:29]: Here's the copy of the site plan, a rendering of the site plan. [1:10:33, 1:10:38]: Here are renderings of the proposed houses. There will be three different styles. [1:10:45, 1:10:54]: Uh staff analysis for the um the annexation. Staff recommends approval because the property is contiguous with the city of Stockbridge and that's the main requirement. [1:10:58, 1:11:08]: As it relates to the um comp plan, staff recommends approval and also on the rezoning, staff recommends approval. [1:11:11, 1:11:23]: That's it, Mayor. I'm finished. Okay, that's it for your presentation this time, sir. Yes, sir. And um you covered all three areas adequately? Yes, sir. All right. Council, what kind of questions do you have for Mr Anderson? [1:11:27, 1:11:28]: Any questions? [1:11:30, 1:11:32]: Ms. Alexander, this is your district. Any questions? [1:11:32, 1:11:43]: Uh no, I think he's uh done a fine job of covering the territory. I think uh we just should uh let the listen let the presentation from the applicant speak for itself. [1:11:45, 1:11:47]: All right. Once again, any questions from the council? [1:11:48, 1:11:50]: If no questions from the council and uh [1:11:50, 1:11:52]: Uh how about the the uh [1:11:52, 1:11:56]: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Miss Battle. I was gonna cut say that next. Come on up. Do you have anything you need to add, Miss Battle? [1:12:00, 1:12:05]: The presenters should be open crystalline. [1:12:06, 1:12:15]: Good evening, Michelle Battle with Battle Law. Um 3562, Habersham at North Lake Tucker, Georgia, 30084. Um, I would like to reserve [1:12:16, 1:12:17]: Huh. [1:12:18, 1:12:22]: No. Did I email it, Elser? Is it right there? Okay, great. [1:12:23, 1:12:35]: Um i would it be possible for me to hold my comments until after um the uh uh the opposition has spoken? Okay, thank you. I appreciate that. So on that note uh go ahead. [1:12:36, 1:12:42]: Come back, Miss Bell. So that wasn't the way that I wanted to proceed. So come back, please. [1:12:44, 1:12:45]: Okay, what kind of questions do you have, sir? [1:12:46, 1:13:04]: What I wanted Ms. Battle to do was to kinda go through the presentation, uh, so that folks under I am gonna go through the whole presentation. Um most of the people that were here, or at least I think all of the people here were here during the planning commission meeting. So I was gonna give them the opportunity to speak. But if you l prefer that I speak now, that's fine. [1:13:04, 1:13:20]: I think that yeah, that that would be appropriate to set the stage for kinda what you're where you're going so folks understand what this is. There's a lot of misinformation that we'll hear, that we've heard, and there's a lot of misinformation that I'm sure we'll probably hear again tonight. [1:13:46, 1:14:06]: Sorry, and to be able to see while I'm standing here. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I'm together now. Thank you. All right. All right. Um first and foremost, we just wanted to introduce Pulti. Pull T is um a 70-year-old um home developer uh company. Um they have delivered [1:14:06, 1:14:26]: Almost 750,000 homes and are the third largest home building company in operation in 23 states and 42 major markets. They are headquartered in Atlanta, and their brands include Pulti, Syntex, Dell Web, The Visto, J. [1:14:26, 1:14:46]: Wheeland homes and neighborhoods and American West. They got their start in the 1950s, and they have continued to build and continue to grow throughout the Metro Atlanta area in particular. You can see here a map of the many subdivisions that have been built throughout. [1:14:46, 1:14:55]: throughout the area. They have been very, particularly in recent, they have been very active in the Henry County market. [1:14:56, 1:15:16]: And you can see uh a lot of their projects um throughout the area. Um Anderson Point, um Woodbridge Estates, um we've also uh got uh Hawthorne Ridge um and um Wildwood at Avalon, along with uh it looks like uh [1:15:16, 1:15:36]: uh Harrington, which is coming soon. So those are um sites that you could actually visit. With regards to what is before you today, um it has already been sounded for the annexation, the future land use amendment, the rezoning, and there was also a variance to allow the reduction of the front yard setback from 50 [1:15:35, 1:15:38]: Um feet to thirty five feet. [1:15:38, 1:15:58]: And um as we proceed through, um there were just a couple of things that I wanted to highlight um from what staff has said. Um number one, this is a um site plan that is inlaid um over the aerial map for the area. You can see here um the flat um Hickory Flat Elementary. [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: School along with some of the surrounding community areas, including Clark's Meadows subdivision, which is actually located within the city's boundaries, and allows for the annexation as the property here actually abuts the rear of Clark Meadows. [1:16:18, 1:16:28]: We believe that it makes sense for the annexation of this property into the city. There are some who were at the last meeting who indicated that they saw no benefit. [1:16:28, 1:16:48]: Um to this property being moved into the city. And I disagree vehemently. I think that the city is doing an excellent job of its growth and the development of the city, providing amenities, and really uh trying to do all that you all can to improve the quality of life for the residents in the city. There are many businesses. [1:16:48, 1:17:08]: Benefits from the developer side to moving this out of Henry County. Primarily, it just takes too long to do anything in the county. When we were going through the rezoning process there, I have cases that are now taking a year and a half to get through zoning in the city, in the county. And that's simply [1:17:08, 1:17:28]: Too long. We have actually two of the property owners on this property have died since we've been pursuing this rezoning. It's been that long. So we elected to move into the city because we believe that it is a better opportunity for the development of the site and then to allow us to proceed in a more expeditious way. [1:17:28, 1:17:29]: Yeah. [1:17:30, 1:17:50]: We do have a survey. This survey shows that there are wetlands that run along the perimeter as well as the floodplain and stream buffer. That is not unusual on sites. There are many sites that have stream buffers and the like. And we are only building in the area. [1:17:50, 1:18:10]: Areas outside of there. We are abiding by all of the stream buffer uh requirements, including the 75-foot buffer for the um undisturbed portion along with the 25-foot um impervious surface setback as well. The property again is shown um [1:18:10, 1:18:30]: In terms of zoning, right now is R A with the medium density residential land use and low density residential land use designation. We believe that it is appropriate to move um both sites as low density residential. We are not seeking to maximize all of the um [1:18:30, 1:18:36]: um density that we could if we went with an um medium density residential designation. In fact [1:18:37, 1:18:57]: We are looking at a total of 161 units at 1.19 units per acre gross and 1.96 per acre net. So we are under two units per acre. And I think that that's notable again that we were not trying to go after the most dense community. [1:18:57, 1:19:09]: that we could if we had instead moved to go to medium density residential. When we look at the amenity areas, we are looking at a swimming pool, tot lot. [1:19:09, 1:19:29]: Um a kids pool um Pool T is very dedicated to making sure that they have quality amenities within their communities, and that is something we know is very important, particularly some of the other projects we've done in District 5 that the District 5 council member likes to see with um with a gazette. [1:19:29, 1:19:34]: [4777.6, 4797.6]: We are asking to be zoned to the SR district. The SR district allows for 12,000 minimum square foot lots. On the site, we will have 12,000 square foot minimum lots, but along Brandon Road, those units will be 17,000 square feet. And when we look around at some [1:19:57, 1:20:17]: Of the other developments that have occurred within the area. We certainly are within the density. In fact, we're less than the density on some of the sites, including Clark Meadow, where they have a density of 2.74 units per acre. There was another project that we recently had approved here for Liberty Community. [1:20:17, 1:20:32]: And we are more in line with that, where their density was at 1. I believe 89 units per acre on their site with minimum 12,000 square foot lots with 15,000 square foot lots along Brandon Road. [1:20:33, 1:20:53]: Um staff indicated that we only had three um types of units here. We actually have quite a few more um type units along. Um we want to have residents allowing them to have a very uh generous um portfolio to look through in terms of the types of homes that would be built on the site. [1:20:53, 1:21:07]: So you can see here some of the homes have three, four, five bedrooms, depending on what is desired. Some have two garages as opposed to just one. [1:21:09, 1:21:29]: Um all of them have some component of either brick, um hardy plank, um board and batten um use, which are materials um that many um like to have as opposed to just a hundred percent brick, although they will certainly be offered. Um there are a lot of homes that are craftsman style, like the ones that you see. [1:21:29, 1:21:36]: here um where those homes sell equally as high in value um as those that have brick. [1:21:46, 1:22:06]: We also looked at having a ranch style product. If that is not desirable to City Council, we are not wedded to having that product. It has been selling pretty well. We believe that there are families who may have individuals who are handicapped or seniors that [1:22:05, 1:22:20]: don't want to um have stairs that may be interested in this type of uh a ranch style home. However, um if that does not work for the city, we are okay with um only having two story units available. [1:22:22, 1:22:42]: Um having now um looked at the projections, um, when we initially started this project, um that was two years ago when um the home sale prices were closer to four to six hundred um thousand for this project. Um after recalculating and going back and looking at the product and [1:22:42, 1:23:02]: And all of the increase in materials and costs, Poulty has determined that in fact these homes they will initially be marketing because they won't come online if this gets approved until sometime in 20 late 2025 or 2026. That we are looking instead at price points between 600. [1:23:02, 1:23:22]: To 800,000, dependent upon what the homeowner so desires. We know that many of the homes now, those are the base prices. When we're looking, we're not talking about all of the homes being at 800,000, so I want to make sure that that's clear. [1:23:22, 1:23:42]: Is that they will have a list price. As we know, it's like when you go into a buy a car, you look at the list price for the car. If you want the base level, then you pay the base level price. However, most people want improvements, embellishments on their car, on their homes, whether you want different amenities within your home, whether you look [1:23:42, 1:24:02]: Look at the finishes that you determine in your home, all of those determine um what the actual price of the home will be. And so we know that um the market is rapidly changing um and we believe that the price points will be in that range. I think I have more time than that because we actually have three applications. You do. Okay. [1:24:07, 1:24:24]: All right. Uh that was actually the end of the the visual part of the presentation. Um but um that was where we wanted to um to end with regards to um the variances that are being requested. Um we believe that [1:24:25, 1:24:44]: Okay. I'm just told we'll we'll he has to introduce that case, so we'll just hold that until that comes up. All right. Um so I'm here to answer any questions that you may have. All right, counsel. Yes. Now you stated that the price points be between six hundred and eight hundred thousand dollars for these particular property. What's the square f the square footage of these pro homes? [1:24:44, 1:24:47]: I'm gonna ask Rick if he would come. [1:24:48, 1:24:53]: Rick, you'll have to come up and to introduce yourself. We have Rick Martin here with Pulti Homes. [1:24:56, 1:25:16]: How are you doing, Mr. Martin? Good evening, Mayor. Good evening, members of the City Council. I'm Rick Martin. I live at uh 34 304 T Rose Court, Griffin, Georgia, 30223. I'm director of land acquisition for Poulty here. And uh the answer to the question, if I understood it correctly, the side, the square foot. [1:25:16, 1:25:18]: And the other thing. [1:25:19, 1:25:39]: Should you be in so desirous and we build the ranch, the ranch would range between twenty-three and thirty-six hundred square feet. Pardon me. And the uh two stories would range between twenty-eight and four thousand square feet. And the four thousand. Uh my prefer preference would be the larger number and that the ranches have a larger square foot. [1:25:39, 1:25:59]: footage on the footprint to make sure that the price points were held up to where we're trying to be between six hundred and eight hundred thousand versus the lower number, closer to three thousand square feet. Yes, sir. In fact we we build the same house uh all all over at land and we're pretty pretty comfortable with where they [1:25:59, 1:26:13]: uh w uh base pricing is. In addition to that, as as uh uh Ms. Battle was pointing out, what drives the final pricing is the options that the individual sellers select. [1:26:13, 1:26:33]: Certainly and uh understanding that I know certainly many other neighbors in the area, especially several in uh Providence Harbor, quality homes, uh the Liberty community that we got approved, and certainly I'm excited that Poulty has finally brought found Stockbridge. Uh you primarily been building on the north side of the city. [1:26:33, 1:26:53]: For quite some time now. And I think when we talked in our initial conversation, what you assured me was that Pulte had acquired John Wheeland Homes, which and then that the similar product would be bestowed upon this product, which is the John Whelan product, which is basically what's polluted. [1:26:53, 1:26:57]: what Pelute offers, but you certainly purchased that brand, correct? [1:26:57, 1:27:14]: Indeed. Indeed, yes, sir. In the in this market, Poulti owns the Delware brand, John Wheel and Syntex, which is our entry level brand, and Poulti, which stretches across the upper end of where Sentex is into the middle part of where the John Wheelan market uh caters to. [1:27:14, 1:27:34]: Okay, and it and Ms. uh Battle had mentioned two car, but we're talking about three car garages. Two and three car. Two and three car garages in terms of the overall footprint of the homes uh upgrades and options throughout the homes to uh the amenity package and the trim package that would be uh complementary of a [1:27:34, 1:27:37]: six hundred to eight hundred thousand dollar homes that correct. [1:27:37, 1:27:52]: Indeed. And those those th th those include trim packages, bonus rooms, uh additions to including uh sunrooms and others uh that are common uh selections from buyers in this uh price category. [1:27:53, 1:27:56]: What is the target bar what is the target purchaser for these homes then? [1:27:57, 1:28:02]: The target? The target audience for these home or these a homeowner for these this product. [1:28:03, 1:28:03]: Yeah. [1:28:03, 1:28:12]: Mid to upper level uh i it these aren't entry level homes. These would be mid or move up uh uh market uh uh type purchases. [1:28:12, 1:28:20]: So these homes in essence would give uh citizens in stockbirds who wanted to stay in the city an option to move up to a nicer home. [1:28:20, 1:28:22]: Esta established homeowners, yes, sir. [1:28:23, 1:28:43]: in in a great neighborhood with uh amenities. And also I think what we did was, Miss Bowder, we decided that we would do a ten foot multi-use path along Brandon Road. Which Brandon Road is correct. Brandon Road currently does not have a sidewalk. And which this neighborhood and then the other Liberty neighborhood [1:28:43, 1:28:50]: Hood would have a ten foot multi use path as well that will increase the sidewalk presence on Brandon Road. Is that correct? [1:28:50, 1:29:10]: That's that's correct. And and that we've provided connectivity for walking within the community as well. There's a small cemetery area that we've created walkways, soft c soft padded walkways that'll connect the streets to the more uh um wooded areas for purposes of walking. [1:29:10, 1:29:20]: So talk about the community in terms of the upkeep and the HOA fee and then um uh whether and that's a gated community. [1:29:20, 1:29:21]: I beg your pardon? Gated community. [1:29:22, 1:29:29]: It Um asking if the g if the community's gated. Is it we could be right? He asked is if if it's gated. [1:29:29, 1:29:32]: Um, I don't believe we gated this community. [1:29:33, 1:29:38]: Okay. If that's a if that's something the cities uh would like to see us do uh, I could address that. [1:29:39, 1:29:59]: Well talk about that and its effect on the HOA fee. So there will be a mandatory homeowners association with mandatory dues that will be payable that will allow um them to maintain and upkeep all of the amenities um and the open space areas. Um they will own all of the green space areas. [1:29:59, 1:30:19]: Um and be responsible for that maintenance. Um, in terms of what they anticipate the actual dues being, I'm not sure if he's got a number for that, but we haven't done a budget, but I can tell you firsthand that Poulti's common area maintenance uh uh taxes and insurance for the common area run as low as any place in the market. [1:30:19, 1:30:39]: I happen to live in Sun City Peachtree, which is a resort sty style amenity package, including a 44,000 square foot amenity center, indoor outdoor pool, and a number of other things. And my month and and we don't mow mow any grass outside our homes or do any of the lawn maintenance anywhere in the property. And my monthly fees. [1:30:39, 1:30:42]: There are two hundred and forty dollars a month. [1:30:42, 1:30:58]: So certainly uh in that area, uh Providence Harbor is not gated across the street. Uh Lip the Liberty Community is not either. I can't. That was a question that I was simply asking to see whether or not that was the plan for the neighborhood. But it wouldn't be required, you know. Yes, sir. Yes. [1:31:00, 1:31:11]: Okay, counselor, any more questions uh for yes sir, go ahead please. Uh good evening. Uh I did not see any uh model with the side view garage. Are there any? [1:31:12, 1:31:28]: Um I don't think we had any on on those pictures, but we are aware that side entry garages are something that are desired, particularly on the corner lots. [1:31:28, 1:31:40]: It um it varies depending on the site, but we didn't have that many lots where a side entry garage uh worked here, so we didn't show any, but we offer side entry garages certainly. [1:31:40, 1:31:57]: Thank you. Thank you. But certainly we would like to maximize the number of side entry garages, which we did uh on the Li other Liberty property. And defin definitely on the corner lots because they have right on the corner lots and certainly that should be an option available to uh homeowners. Yes. [1:31:58, 1:32:02]: Any other questions from the council at all? Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:32:02, 1:32:22]: Um how many of them are three bedrooms, how many are four bedrooms, how many are five bedrooms? That will depend on what the homeowner is seeking, but I think all of the the all of the homes have three to four bedroom no less than three bedrooms. And and most of these homes uh in this [1:32:22, 1:32:36]: In this buyer profile, if it's a three bedroom home, the fourth bedroom will be uh converted to a bonus room, uh office, a den, or some some other use. Most of the time they're constructed as four bedroom homes. Thank you. [1:32:37, 1:32:38]: Answer a question. [1:32:39, 1:32:59]: Yes, ma'am. So just just to be clear, I want to clarify because I think I I I kind of misspoke. It's four bedrooms in all of the units. Right. The person may opt to have the fourth bedroom as like an office as opposed to a bedroom, but it technically will be four bedrooms. And five bedrooms, two. Sorry, four and up. [1:32:59, 1:33:01]: We'll offer a three bedroom as well. [1:33:02, 1:33:03]: Okay, Ms. Gangway, please. [1:33:04, 1:33:24]: Um, I had a question. Did planning and zoning get a chance to see this particular presentation? Yes. They did. Okay. Yes. All right. And in terms of the homes that we had, um, we had given so many. I know that staff was like we had so many homes because we had all the pictures, and so they picked out just a couple of the ones, but [1:33:24, 1:33:27]: All of the pictures we had delivered um to staff as well. [1:33:29, 1:33:31]: Okay, any other questions, Council? [1:33:31, 1:33:51]: All right. If not, thank you for very much. Uh we'll probably come back to the podium a little later. Okay. Uh at this point I'm gonna open up to a public hearing. All right. I raided the rules for public hearing some time ago, but we'll start on the very and first of all we'll go with folks that are for, for this development, for the development. I'll start on my very left, my very left. Anybody for [1:33:51, 1:33:56]: I need you to come forward and line up. Four. [1:33:57, 1:34:09]: Anybody four in the middle? Wanting comments four for the development. Come on, step on up, ma'am. Uh line line up on this side. Okay, for the development. Anybody else for the development? [1:34:09, 1:34:16]: In the middle, anybody else for development on the uh my right hand side? My right hand side. Anybody else for? [1:34:16, 1:34:27]: All right. So f this is four, okay? For the development, ma'am with your name we have start the ten minute clock, just in case, please. Um name and address, ma'am, and your comments. [1:34:27, 1:34:44]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the city council and the people here tonight, ladies and gentlemen. My name is ma'am. Could you get closer? My name is Sharon Wilson. Okay. I live at two oh two Brandon Road, MacDonagh, Georgia. Okay. I've been there forty four years. [1:34:45, 1:34:52]: This property, uh to give you a little history on the property, came into the family in nineteen hundred. Okay. [1:34:53, 1:35:05]: My great grandfather, Joseph Beaman Brannon, and his wife Elan Leola Brann, two separate Brannons, strains in Henry County. They raised two children there, a boy and a girl. [1:35:06, 1:35:08]: The boy passed when he was young. [1:35:09, 1:35:11]: My grandmother Lena May Brannon inherited the [1:35:12, 1:35:15]: Married Hubert Pearson, raised three sons. [1:35:16, 1:35:22]: My father was the oldest, Herman. He passed in June of twenty two, at the age of ninety three. [1:35:23, 1:35:38]: His brother Wade is living and has a wife, Irene, who is here tonight. And the youngest brother, Beaman Pearson, deceased in October of twenty twenty one. So that's the two brothers that have passed. [1:35:40, 1:35:50]: This family has owned and been good stewards of this land since nineteen hundred. That's a hundred and twenty five years, um, roughly, give or take. [1:35:50, 1:35:51]: Um [1:35:52, 1:35:58]: They have been conservationists. They farmed the land, they fed the people of Henry County and counties around. [1:36:01, 1:36:02]: They worked hard. [1:36:03, 1:36:12]: The land was their investment. That's what my great great grandfather taught them. That's what those generations did. They invested in land. [1:36:14, 1:36:15]: That [1:36:15, 1:36:19]: That investment is a great one so long as you can hold on to the land. [1:36:20, 1:36:22]: Use the land and take care of it. [1:36:22, 1:36:26]: But when the land no longer takes care of you as it's doing now. [1:36:27, 1:36:35]: Two of the brothers are gone. One is living. He's infirm and elderly at eighty-five. His wife is eighty-six. [1:36:35, 1:36:41]: They are this is a hardship situation for selling this property, or they would never let it go. [1:36:47, 1:36:49]: None of us would let it go. [1:36:50, 1:36:53]: We've lived on it our whole lives. I'm seventy two. [1:36:56, 1:37:02]: Family cannot be expected to hold onto land to make it a park for the residents of Henry County. [1:37:02, 1:37:08]: Or the city of Stockbridge when the need arises that they need to take care of themselves. [1:37:10, 1:37:13]: Taxes, upkeep, and liability. [1:37:15, 1:37:21]: There's only me and my infirmed eighty-five year old uncle anymore that can take care of that property. [1:37:24, 1:37:27]: No one in this room wants uncontrolled development. [1:37:28, 1:37:36]: It broke my family's heart to contact Poulty and ask them to help us with this. That was two years ago. [1:37:37, 1:37:50]: During that time I wound up supporting my dad's baby brother because he didn't have the money to take care of himself the last five months he lived, because the land didn't s wasn't able to be sold. [1:37:50, 1:37:55]: You cannot turn land over like you can stocks when the need arises. [1:37:58, 1:37:59]: This is a good development. [1:38:00, 1:38:01]: No. [1:38:02, 1:38:04]: We've seen development in Henry County. [1:38:05, 1:38:08]: I look now and I look at hundreds of apartment buildings going up. [1:38:09, 1:38:11]: I see warehouses going up. [1:38:12, 1:38:15]: This is one point two homes per acre. [1:38:16, 1:38:18]: It could be five homes per acre. [1:38:19, 1:38:22]: І куди три худа апартмент булдинс, і куди вarehouses. [1:38:24, 1:38:26]: When we talk about the stewardship of the land [1:38:28, 1:38:32]: The subdivision across the street has a safe entry because my uncle Wade [1:38:33, 1:38:34]: The one that's still living. [1:38:35, 1:38:36]: Мозгеніс енаф. [1:38:37, 1:38:43]: to sell at a a r ridiculously inexpensive cost to the developer. [1:38:43, 1:38:45]: The land to make that [1:38:45, 1:38:51]: driveway in and or the entrance in and out of that subdivision safe for the people that live there. [1:38:51, 1:38:53]: It's not that we don't care. [1:38:53, 1:38:56]: It's that the need is here and present. [1:38:56, 1:38:59]: To take care of my aunt and my uncle at this point. [1:38:59, 1:39:01]: They're the only ones left. [1:39:01, 1:39:02]: They can't do anything. [1:39:03, 1:39:05]: Except hope that you will [1:39:05, 1:39:07]: Give this fair consideration. [1:39:08, 1:39:10]: For a good development. [1:39:10, 1:39:11]: and offer your approval. [1:39:12, 1:39:15]: And I thank you for listening to me. Thank you. Appreciate it. [1:39:23, 1:39:31]: Name and address, please, sir. Good evening. Uh James White. I live 167 White Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, which is in Henry County. [1:39:31, 1:39:50]: some of the stock bridges in Rockdale County if you live over where I live. Understand. I am a real estate broker and I've been working with the family since uh twenty nineteen. We have we've had a lot of interest in this property from the very beginning. We had offers within [1:39:50, 1:39:53]: Uh probably two weeks, uh that [1:39:53, 1:40:13]: The owners didn't consider. We had the largest home builder in America and others. Um and uh we were very pleased that Pool Tee would be interested and I'll be honest with you, amazed that they still sticking with it. It's been a difficult [1:40:13, 1:40:18]: Time. It is a unique property. Uh uh [1:40:20, 1:40:21]: Irene. [1:40:21, 1:40:24]: Pearson is here tonight, she and her husband. [1:40:24, 1:40:26]: Built their home there thirty five years. [1:40:27, 1:40:29]: And uh they never cut. [1:40:29, 1:40:30]: In a trees. [1:40:31, 1:40:32]: Where they built their house. [1:40:34, 1:40:34]: Hello? [1:40:34, 1:40:35]: Very [1:40:36, 1:40:37]: unique property. [1:40:37, 1:40:38]: It's uh [1:40:38, 1:40:40]: Got some ancient trees on it. [1:40:40, 1:40:41]: And they w [1:40:41, 1:40:43]: It would be a nice place [1:40:43, 1:40:46]: To have a a walkway through those woods. [1:40:47, 1:40:51]: I have lived in Florida, North Carolina, and Georgia. [1:40:52, 1:40:55]: In North Carolina I live near Biltmore Forest. [1:40:56, 1:40:58]: I didn't have any better forest. [1:40:59, 1:41:00]: Then they have. [1:41:01, 1:41:01]: And uh [1:41:04, 1:41:06]: Today I drove a c another client. [1:41:07, 1:41:08]: To uh [1:41:09, 1:41:10]: Near Linux for closing. [1:41:11, 1:41:13]: And we intentionally [1:41:13, 1:41:14]: Didn't get on the expressway. [1:41:15, 1:41:16]: We drove. [1:41:17, 1:41:17]: True. [1:41:17, 1:41:19]: Henry Cannie and Decay County. [1:41:20, 1:41:21]: In Fulton County. [1:41:22, 1:41:24]: And we drove by [1:41:26, 1:41:27]: M university. [1:41:27, 1:41:28]: Where I attended. [1:41:29, 1:41:32]: And near there's one of the finest country clubs in America. [1:41:33, 1:41:34]: But on the way there [1:41:35, 1:41:36]: We drove through. [1:41:37, 1:41:38]: I guess. [1:41:38, 1:41:41]: Thousands of different designs of houses. [1:41:42, 1:41:43]: And I look back and see that [1:41:44, 1:41:49]: In Henry County, my grandparents also I live in home, built Brown nineteen hundred. [1:41:50, 1:41:51]: Uh you know. [1:41:52, 1:41:54]: They did what they could afford to do. [1:41:54, 1:41:56]: They did what met their needs. [1:41:57, 1:41:59]: I think it's presumptuous to try to tell [1:42:00, 1:42:02]: Builders who are trying to make a living [1:42:02, 1:42:07]: exactly what they have to do. You need to live on the flexibility to meet the demand of the public. [1:42:08, 1:42:08]: If they don't [1:42:09, 1:42:09]: Continue. [1:42:10, 1:42:11]: To make money, they won't be [1:42:11, 1:42:14]: In the home building business. And if they've been there [1:42:15, 1:42:16]: I mean a an Atlanta company? [1:42:17, 1:42:18]: Succeeded. [1:42:19, 1:42:24]: For seventy years, I know a lot of people went broke just a few years ago when we had a recession. [1:42:24, 1:42:26]: I mean they gotta be doing something right. [1:42:26, 1:42:28]: to meet the demand of the public. [1:42:29, 1:42:33]: I live on a farm. I mean, I love looking out my backyard and seeing nobody. [1:42:34, 1:42:37]: But most of the young people don't want to even care for. [1:42:37, 1:42:42]: Ten thousand square feet, much less seventeen thousand or a half acre or ten acres. [1:42:42, 1:42:43]: But anyway [1:42:43, 1:42:45]: I sell property to anybody. [1:42:45, 1:42:52]: uh that uh you know, it's just what they demand, what they want. And I believe that uh these people [1:42:52, 1:42:53]: Well no. [1:42:53, 1:42:55]: produce a product and I've looked and [1:42:56, 1:42:59]: Online I see uh because I am a broker. [1:43:00, 1:43:02]: Their advertisement of a California plan. [1:43:03, 1:43:04]: And you know [1:43:04, 1:43:06]: People are moving to Georgia. [1:43:06, 1:43:07]: From everywhere. [1:43:08, 1:43:09]: And especially [1:43:09, 1:43:11]: From where it's cold up in New York and [1:43:12, 1:43:14]: Where it's too expensive in California, so [1:43:14, 1:43:15]: Oh. [1:43:15, 1:43:19]: I mean, people got the money to buy what they want, they're coming here and [1:43:20, 1:43:22]: To be honest, it's still a very [1:43:22, 1:43:23]: Strong shortage. [1:43:24, 1:43:24]: My client. [1:43:25, 1:43:26]: Lived on a little five acre piece. [1:43:27, 1:43:29]: Off one hundred fifty five highway near me. [1:43:30, 1:43:38]: Today he said he's been worried to death by people calling him wanting to buy his house. I said, that's cause there's not enough houses in Henry County to meet the demand of all the people that are coming here. [1:43:39, 1:43:40]: So [1:43:40, 1:43:43]: We have been very frustrated with the delay. [1:43:44, 1:43:48]: So uh in in getting something that was uh [1:43:49, 1:43:55]: acceptable to the government and uh Henry County. I'll be honest with you, very frustrated. [1:43:55, 1:43:56]: Uh, and very disappointed. [1:43:57, 1:44:15]: I understand the concern of other people, but we don't have a drawbridge in Henry County. When you get here you don't get to pull up the bridge and stop the other people from coming. And not everybody can afford uh, you know, a million dollar house. It's just that that's just the facts. Thank you for listening. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. All right. Yes, sir. [1:44:16, 1:44:20]: I if I could like to ask the city attorney to come to the podium. [1:44:20, 1:44:22]: All right. Mr Ms Washington. [1:44:30, 1:44:31]: Ms. Washington? [1:44:38, 1:44:43]: All right, Samantha, happy new year to you. Happy New Year. All right. What's your question, Mr. Alezander? [1:44:47, 1:45:01]: Yes, ma'am. Uh there's been a lot of misinformation out there about uh the stock bridge. We have a comprehensive uh plan that the city passed, the ULDC. Is that we have a uh Ryan Ryan, you come up as well. [1:45:06, 1:45:16]: We have a comprehensive plan that the city passed and that plan was registered with the state and the appropriate agencies and verified. Is that correct? [1:45:17, 1:45:17]: Yes, sir. [1:45:18, 1:45:28]: Okay. There's a lot of statements made about the city is not follow technically following uh the legal process for the state. We advertise this correctly, right? [1:45:28, 1:45:48]: Yes, sir. Everything that we do legal reviews it, correct, Ms. City Attorney? Yes. Every single process, every single document that we bring forward that we go through, and this process has been 100% legal and 100% uh by the book according to the state. [1:45:48, 1:45:53]: George, is that correct, Mr. Anderson? Yes, sir. Is that been verified by legal? [1:45:55, 1:45:58]: Everything that you present to legal, yes. Yes. [1:45:59, 1:46:02]: Absolutely. We um we have uh a zoning attorney. [1:46:02, 1:46:14]: Absolutely. And there certainly was some as a some misinformation put out there about this how the city of Stockbridge was violating the constitution. Are we violating the constitution in any way? [1:46:15, 1:46:16]: No, sir. [1:46:17, 1:46:25]: Has any document that we have we done anything inappropriate in these zoning cases that have been brought before us? [1:46:26, 1:46:27]: No, sir. [1:46:27, 1:46:35]: How long have you been uh uh in in the planting the zone in the um field, sir? Period in Stockbridge or [1:46:35, 1:46:50]: By twenty eight years. By twenty eight years. You understand this process completely, correct? Yes, sir. And you have reviewed every aspect of these zoning process and you have deemed that that they are valid and legal, correct? [1:46:51, 1:46:53]: Yes, and also we run everything by our attorney. [1:46:54, 1:47:07]: doing everything by our attorney. Ms. City Attorney have in reviewing any of the documents that have been presented to you in any of these packages, has anything inappropriate been done or has anything unsta constitutional been done? [1:47:08, 1:47:13]: There's been one particular instance that's been brought to our attention recently within the last couple of days. [1:47:13, 1:47:15]: We're gonna provide a legal memo. [1:47:16, 1:47:36]: uh I research and then if you decide to relay that to the public, you can. Well we certainly appreciate everything that you do to review these particular documents and review everything that we do. But certainly we sure we decide this council decide to approve this uh um particular development, we would have done [1:47:36, 1:47:41]: everything that we needed to do in order to legally make that pro make make that appropriate, is that correct? [1:47:41, 1:47:50]: That is correct. And if we find something illegal, we bring it to your attention and it provide you with advice that you take or not at your own decision. [1:47:51, 1:47:59]: Well, I certainly appreciate that. And and how long have you you know, Washington and Drive been around quite some time. Mr. Quentin Washington, is he here? [1:48:00, 1:48:06]: He stepped out for a moment. He stepped out for a minute. So Mr. Long Mr. Washington's been practicing law for high practical. [1:48:07, 1:48:17]: Uh twenty plus years. Twenty plus years. Yes. Correct. And uh we should have the utmost confidence in his legal legal legal opinions and ability, correct? [1:48:17, 1:48:29]: Yes, a combined experience of the firm is fifty plus years. And then when we come across something that we aren't experts in, we do find an expert. We don't just give advice willy nilly. [1:48:30, 1:48:34]: All right, thank you so much. I appreciate that. Thank you, Mayor. I'm done. [1:48:34, 1:48:36]: Uh thank you very much. Okay. [1:48:36, 1:48:54]: We're continuing with our public hearings. We already uh established uh folks that were for, now folks that are against this particular development in a very le my very left side, left side, if you're i wanna make comments against it, please line up on that side and uh we'll we'll hear you out in just a little bit. [1:48:54, 1:49:14]: Okay, left. Anybody in the middle that wants to speak against this? Hold hold up, please, stand right there, please. Uh anybody in the middle that wants to uh speak against this development in the middle, please line up on my far my far left. Anyone on the right? Anybody on the right that wants to make any comments against this particular development? Anybody on my right? If so, come around. [1:49:14, 1:49:18]: And uh stand up on this side, this far left side, please. Okay? [1:49:19, 1:49:26]: Now we'll start the clock at uh ten minutes. The very first person, ma'am, come on up, give your name and address and your comments, please. [1:49:28, 1:49:48]: Good evening, my name is Sarah Leslie. I live at 354 Newcastle Vista, which is in the St. Andrews at Rockport subdivision up the road. And I have been living there since 2006. I attended one of the Henry County Zoning Committees meetings about a year ago when this property was first discussed. [1:49:48, 1:49:54]: And I believe this annexation is the Poulty Company's attempt to get around the Henry County Zoning Committee. [1:49:54, 1:50:14]: The city of Stockbridge is being used, most likely because it is seen as weaker and easier in its zoning and regulations. Several concerns calm down, please. Go ahead with your comment. Several concerns were brought up at the county meeting, and there's a reason why it wasn't gone through the Henry County zoning. [1:50:14, 1:50:21]: Committee. First of all, the property is a watershed area and it needs to be protected. Cutting down trees, construction runoff. [1:50:21, 1:50:23]: Long chemicals will pollute the watershed. [1:50:23, 1:50:28]: An environmental study independent of POLTI needs to be completed first. [1:50:28, 1:50:31]: before um to measure its impact on it. [1:50:32, 1:50:42]: Traffic is an issue. It's not just on Brandon, but overall. Poulty had a traffic study that they show that they did two years ago. Traffic today is not the same. [1:50:42, 1:50:45]: And again, an independent study needs to be completed. [1:50:46, 1:51:03]: um on that before considering annexation. Um even according to Mr. Alexander's Facebook post, road improvements could take up to eight years. Adding more people will drive away all the businesses and new residents that you want to attract. No one will want to live here, shop here or visit here. [1:51:04, 1:51:11]: Several new neighborhoods are already being built in this area. The closest is a quarter of a mile away on Springdale. [1:51:11, 1:51:14]: Housing options are available everywhere in this county. [1:51:15, 1:51:35]: The impact on our schools, it's terrifying. It's gonna be overcrowded. There are no new plans for any new schools for our area. My neighborhood is zoned for the Union Grove School Cluster, and we have had to fight to stay in the Union Grove cluster. Adding more people will impact where children in my neighborhood go. [1:51:35, 1:51:55]: And will affect our property values. Lastly, there's no infrastructure to support all this growth in Henry County. It's not just our roads and schools, but things like the number of beds in our hospital, doctor's offices, grocery stores, fire and police stations. Our local governments need to stop the rapid, unmitteling. [1:51:54, 1:52:14]: Managed growth and start taking care of the residents who already live here and those that are coming now. With all of these concerns, annexing this property will not benefit the citizens of Stockbridge. Poulty will build, sell, and leave without contributing to this community. They will leave nothing but a bunch of poor. [1:52:14, 1:52:28]: Poorly built, overpriced houses on tiny plots to maximize their profits. They are not concerned with the quality of life in Henry County. We need you to be concerned with the quality of life in Henry County. [1:52:28, 1:52:43]: Growth can be controlled and done thoughtfully to benefit its citizens. And we are asking you to put the citizens of our community first by voting against annexation and rezoning. Thank you. Thank you. [1:52:44, 1:52:48]: Calm cal calm calm down folks. Calm down please. Go ahead, ma'am. Come on up. [1:52:51, 1:52:52]: Your name and address, please. [1:52:52, 1:53:12]: Hi, my name is Barber Fleischmann I live at 1026 Brandon Road. I've been there for 33 years. Uh with their excuse me, with everything that's been said, I really had notes in what I was gonna say. Um I know this is in District 5, which uh affects Elton Alexander, and a traffic study should be done every 12 months, and if they hadn't been two years. [1:53:12, 1:53:20]: Years they should do one. On a public forum, Mr. Alexander said stated that the homes are seven hundred thousand dollars. [1:53:20, 1:53:40]: And that they are not starter homes. They are luxury homes, that they will boost property values in the area, and they're in line with the Providence Harbor, and they are not in line with Providence Harbor. I feel like Mr. Alexander sort of uh misrepresents. Hold on. Ma'am, address the comments to me, please, and you really should not be mentioning his name per se in that. [1:53:40, 1:53:56]: aspect. Would this address your comments uh without using any names and and and address me please. Well I'm speaking for uh so the peop some of the residents in Providence Harbor Evo uh Reverend Sanders called me before the meeting and I know he lives in Providence Harbor and he's against this annexation and these houses. Now um [1:53:57, 1:54:11]: This h Miss Battle said at the last meeting that uh Henry County is not farmland anymore. The property across the street from me for thirty three years has always been wooded. I have three springs on my property and there was a man that um [1:54:12, 1:54:32]: um came forward at the Henry County and he was talking about the watershed and what all you know I'm I'm concerned about the watershed and how will affect my property. And so there's already this Liberty community gonna be down the road. So at some point are they going to widen Brandon Road? Are they gonna make it so the then I'm afraid my proper [1:54:32, 1:54:33]: property's gonna be [1:54:33, 1:54:39]: in in in jeopardy with that if they want to put a four lane in, want to put red lights in. Um [1:54:41, 1:54:43]: There's also um [1:54:44, 1:55:04]: Deal Horton is building homes on Miller's Mill. They were first for sale. Now they are for rent. So um I'm concerned that the houses over here will also end up in that. And the houses well Miss Battle sent me stuff in the mail and she didn't show us any photographs of these houses and so we [1:55:04, 1:55:11]: When we were at the planning and zoning committee, the first time we saw what the houses looked like were then. And I went online and printed out what she put and [1:55:12, 1:55:30]: These are not seven hundred thousand dollar homes. If you're trying to attract executives to the area, that's not gonna cut it. So are you trying to have affordable homes? Because I know y'all mentioned that a lot, or executive homes. So we are not I feel bad for the family. [1:55:30, 1:55:32]: And I understand, but [1:55:33, 1:55:53]: You know, we would like something better than what Pulty Homes is offering, something in line with Providence Harbour, as I believe M Reverend Sanders even indicated. That is a very nice subdivision. And it seems like, you know, th that's an environment of wildlife is over there. If any wildlife studies been done, it's like they want to cut down every tree. [1:55:53, 1:55:56]: And that's gonna, you know, uh add to global warming. [1:55:57, 1:56:05]: And it's like, do we not wanna have any land left? There's no no place to grow food. What are they gonna need? Lab created food, you know? I mean [1:56:05, 1:56:21]: Please, I mean, Miss Battle did say she did pulled it from Henry uh County. There has to be a reason. Is it because the standards are different in the city? This is our community. I said we've lived I've lived here for thirty three years and I have never [1:56:22, 1:56:40]: said uh anything against a c a com um building in anywhere in the county except Liberty down the street from me and now this one because I don't feel like this type of community is needed in our area. Thank you. Thank you. Ma'am name and address please. [1:56:44, 1:57:04]: Ann Fields, 329, Chase, Marion Way, McDonough. I'm here just to speak specifically to address the fact that when the Planning and Zoning Commission is voting no to the annexation cases, as they have done for several other developments, including [1:57:03, 1:57:07]: Including seventy seven and eighty seven hallway that directly impact me and my home. [1:57:09, 1:57:11]: It stops all public hearings. [1:57:12, 1:57:17]: I will be taking this with the county, with the state. It's a giant loophole. [1:57:18, 1:57:25]: Once you say no at a planning and zoning level to the annexation, the whole thing stops and everything moves to council. [1:57:26, 1:57:32]: It doesn't give the public an opportunity to have input. It doesn't give us the opportunity. [1:57:32, 1:57:34]: To have in depth discussions. [1:57:35, 1:57:44]: Even the planning and zoning chair had said in the September meeting that it would be extraordinarily helpful to the public. [1:57:44, 1:58:00]: if there were some pre-development meetings with the public. So in this case for Brandon, if Poulty would have come up and said, Hi everyone who's impacted, let's get together. I'm renting the holiday in conference room. [1:58:00, 1:58:11]: Let's have a discussion. What do you think? So that we could input without having to take up your time and our time on a 10 minute clock every single solitary month. [1:58:12, 1:58:32]: So the chairperson of the Planning and Zoning Commission was correct. If Stockbridge would take the position of forcing developers to do public presentations in public spaces like a conference center, wherever they can get that kind of space, and calling the citizens that are impacted. [1:58:32, 1:58:52]: By these projects together in the same room, presenting their ideas, listening to feedback, it would stop a lot of the go-around. It really would. That's first. But secondarily, that loophole of having the annexation squashed and the comprehensive plan, the reason. [1:58:52, 1:59:12]: Zone and any potential variance just comes to you guys for a vote is counterproductive as well. Because they're voting no to every annexation case and sending the whole package deal to you guys for an immediate vote. It's not fair to the public. It's it's just not. So we need to look at [1:59:12, 1:59:14]: Closing the loophole. [1:59:14, 1:59:29]: Because you guys could technically say, Okay, we're gonna vote on annexation and we're gonna kick back for public hearing. You guys could say that, but you don't. And and you won't unless somebody calls this out. So I'm calling it out. [1:59:31, 1:59:35]: I waited months for my chance to talk about mine. [1:59:35, 1:59:55]: My 77 and 87, and I had medical appointments and a cancer scare to deal with in another city. And you had the hearing in December, and you barely wanted to have my letter read. So this kind of unfairness to the general public, we're all impacted by all of these developments. We know [1:59:55, 2:00:15]: We have to, we know we have I'm so sorry. I know you give extra time, and I know you're hearing me out, Mayor. Right, I got you. That's what I want to talk about. Uh besides you, I got four other people. And let me make this let me hold on a second. Let me make this comment, folks. Let me make this comment. Listen up, I read it earlier. I don't need a lot of uh back talk from the audience. You get your opportunity. [2:00:15, 2:00:35]: to speak, we'll give you extra time. All right. A yay may and all this clapping and amen. You don't need to do all that. All right. I wouldn't I don't want to initiate the fact that I have the power to have you removed. I don't necessarily really want to do that. And we're going to try to try hold on, I tried not to do that. All right, so anyway, counsel, we need additional time. Are you good with additional time? I suppose. Okay, so we'll get we'll give additional time. [2:00:35, 2:00:39]: Plug in for ten more minutes, Miss uh Ms. Uh Holiday. Continue on, ma'am. [2:00:41, 2:01:01]: We're asking for fairness to the public that's impacted by all these developments. You guys can enact that. It's a very simple thing. Let's start having public open meeting forums to talk about developers' projects before they land in planning and zoning, before they land in council's lab. And can we please try to close this loophole here? Because I will work. [2:01:01, 2:01:21]: With the state to get the loophole closed. And the fact that Stockbridge is asking for people to file PUDs so they don't have to file variances is very frustrating too. Because some of those variances, the 10 feet on holloway between buildings is a barbecue dream nightmare. If somebody catches something on fire that's 10 feet from another building, [2:01:20, 2:01:40]: It's just going to cascade all the way through. So I got dogged, but I don't want to see these people get dogged with their concerns. I don't have concerns on Brandon. My concern is addressing the illegal. Did we do anything illegal? In my opinion, not having the option to talk about comprehensive. [2:01:40, 2:01:43]: plan rezone and variance in a public form. [2:01:45, 2:01:49]: It's sh immoral, it's unethical, might not be illegal. [2:01:51, 2:01:55]: Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Next individual, please, name and address. [2:02:06, 2:02:08]: My name is Miriam D. Calhoun. [2:02:09, 2:02:13]: And I live at six oh eight Creek Stone Court in Jonesboro Stockbridge. [2:02:14, 2:02:16]: And I'm here as a guest. [2:02:17, 2:02:22]: At the request of the voters and the property owners who seek me out. [2:02:24, 2:02:25]: Pretty much. [2:02:26, 2:02:28]: Everything that has been said, I won't be redundant. [2:02:30, 2:02:32]: But I feel like the fight now. [2:02:33, 2:02:36]: It can't be continue fighting with you all. [2:02:36, 2:02:38]: Because we're never gonna get anywhere. [2:02:39, 2:02:41]: So I've done some research. [2:02:43, 2:02:44]: And here's what we gonna do. [2:02:45, 2:02:47]: We're gonna get six people. [2:02:48, 2:02:51]: And we're gonna go down to the elections office. [2:02:52, 2:02:54]: And we're gonna file a petition. [2:02:55, 2:02:55]: To have [2:02:56, 2:02:58]: All of you all recall except mister Berry. [2:02:59, 2:03:00]: And Miss Barber. [2:03:00, 2:03:02]: We know how many signatures it's gonna take. [2:03:03, 2:03:05]: And if you guys wanna run again [2:03:05, 2:03:09]: You're gonna run with us in mind. We are sick. [2:03:10, 2:03:15]: And we are tired of coming down here being treated like foot soldiers. [2:03:15, 2:03:20]: And not getting anywhere because your mind is made up. Anybody can see. [2:03:21, 2:03:23]: On this addendum that we're here today. [2:03:23, 2:03:25]: Every parcel [2:03:25, 2:03:26]: Is in one district. [2:03:28, 2:03:29]: What does that tell you? [2:03:30, 2:03:32]: Somebody is making money, people. [2:03:32, 2:03:33]: And it ain't us. [2:03:34, 2:03:37]: These people can tell us that their attorneys can say whatever. [2:03:38, 2:03:39]: Attorneys lie. [2:03:40, 2:03:41]: People like [2:03:42, 2:03:43]: This council lack. [2:03:43, 2:03:55]: 'Cause they've lied to us. You all need to be recalled. People know that I'm a community activist. People know I'm gonna say what needs to be said. And you people [2:03:55, 2:04:07]: I loathe either all of you. You got to go. Okay. That's no no, come on. Next lady free comments. Next lady please, name and address. Come on. [2:04:08, 2:04:10]: That's that's uncoverful. [2:04:11, 2:04:30]: Good evening. My name is Heather Gawell and I live at 160 Mountain Laurel Drive. Um I think the reason that I'm here is I've been a resident of Henry County for 47 years and I'm horrified by what elected officials are allowing to be done. Um [2:04:31, 2:04:38]: I get the builders get to buy land. There's no law against that. I get they get to sell their land for millions of dollars. Good for them. [2:04:39, 2:04:48]: But I think what people are asking is for y'all to put thoughtful build build but build it thoughtfully and think of your current [2:04:49, 2:05:09]: Um the people that voted you into office, not the ones that are gonna move here, but the ones that currently live here and are impacted by it. Like someone already said, all these builders, they're not living in these houses and they're not living in these communities. We are. Um, my children go to Union Grove and I [2:05:09, 2:05:10]: I just I don't [2:05:11, 2:05:30]: I don't understand how y'all think that hundreds, no, it's not hundreds, it's thousands of new residents. Where are these children gonna go to school? My kids have been without a math teacher for two months. Why? Because they can't hire anybody. You can put trailers all day long. [2:05:30, 2:05:35]: In the pr in the back of the school, but if you do not have a teacher to staff it, it is meaningless. [2:05:37, 2:05:37]: I mean [2:05:39, 2:05:48]: It's the unchecked growth with no thought to infrastructure that frightens me. And if I could I had the choice I would move out. And a lot of people I think [2:05:49, 2:05:59]: feel the same way. If you can, you move out while the getting is good, but I can't move. My parents are here and until they're dead I'm stuck here. Um [2:06:01, 2:06:02]: Mm-hmm. [2:06:04, 2:06:13]: I think the other thing that bothers me, Henry County planning told them no. They told them no for a very good reason. I applaud them. [2:06:13, 2:06:24]: Um in fact the next election I'm gonna vote those same people back into office because they told them no probably for a very good reason. That's very d that was um low density. [2:06:25, 2:06:40]: What they're proposing is not low density. I have four acres of land. That's low density. Um they can call it, you know, oh well it's you know one point four two uh per acre. I'm sorry, that is not [2:06:40, 2:06:45]: They're not keeping with the surrounding area and I think that's what people would like. [2:06:46, 2:07:04]: kind of listen to people's concerns and then stop building townhouses, apartments. I didn't move here for townhouses and apartments. If I wanted to live in a townhouse or apartment I would and but I don't want to live next to them either. Um [2:07:06, 2:07:11]: I think that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Gentlemen, sir, please your name and address. [2:07:13, 2:07:14]: Okay, thank you. [2:07:17, 2:07:27]: Yes, James Henderson, uh 125 Radcliffe Drive, McDonald, Georgia. I'm also the uh eight uh Homeown Association for Providence Harbor President. [2:07:27, 2:07:47]: Uh just we had a lot of talk and and a lot of good feedback in reference to you know how everybody feels about the building going on within our community. Um I moved here about four years ago. My wife and I moved in looking for that high-end quality uh subdivision and we found it a [2:07:47, 2:08:07]: Providence Harbor. Been great so far. However, all of the additional moving into the area with uh new development, I think they're gonna devalue our area, devalue property with crime rates beginning to kick in, moving up. We have um within with the within [2:08:07, 2:08:14]: In a half a mile of the road, we have about 90, about a hundred some houses, apartment complexes coming up. [2:08:14, 2:08:16]: Offer of Lakeview Parkway. [2:08:16, 2:08:21]: And then for about a mile in a row we got um H. R. Hor Horton, D. R. Horton. [2:08:22, 2:08:24]: Hell properties up there. So we've been flooded with [2:08:25, 2:08:40]: apartments and houses and and uh it just uh devaluing our area. And so we definitely disagree with any new development coming up in this area. Thank you for your comments. Victor ma'am please name and address please. [2:08:45, 2:08:59]: Faith Elaine Henderson, 125 Radcliffe, McDonough, Georgia, Providence Harbor. Uh we heard here tonight that the houses that they're going to be building are equivalent to the homes that we live in in Providence Harbor, and they're nowhere near. We have four-side brick. [2:08:59, 2:09:19]: Um the the layout in a lot of our homes are 7,000 square feet. We have elevators in some of our houses. Um we have uh an area where we are content with not having a lot of crime currently, and we would like to stay that way. Um so um the the fact that they [2:09:19, 2:09:25]: haven't maybe some of the houses that they shared with you guys, um maybe they didn't show those pictures of the four-side brick. [2:09:25, 2:09:35]: here tonight. Maybe that's in their catalogue somewhere. But the houses, the homes that they're putting across the street from us, nowhere near matches [2:09:35, 2:09:41]: uh what we're what we live in and there's no way there's no way an executive [2:09:41, 2:10:01]: uh or a president of an organization, which we have some retired presidents of organizations and businesses in our community will buy a home across the street from us for eight and seven hundred looking like that. There's just absolutely no way. Council Mayor, thank you for your time. Thank you, appreciate it. Okay. On that note, I see no one else alive. [2:10:01, 2:10:21]: So I'm gonna close the public hearing. The public hearing is now closed. And I need Mr. Anderson and um Ms. Battle. Uh please come back to the podium. And uh I don't know if Mr. Martin may want to come back too. We'll see. We're gonna go down some of these things that were brought up here, try to get some clarification here. Um [2:10:21, 2:10:41]: One now one of the things that uh I I believe I mentioned the last time we had this type of a meeting last month to deal with another area off of Patrick Henry Boulevard about in reference to transportation roads and schools. And if I'll say this and then and then I will have someone maybe straighten me out if I say this wrong. But what it amounts [2:10:41, 2:11:01]: to legally for the store of j state of Georgia, we cannot deny development based on road structure, infrastructure, or or schools in this aspect. We have no control over um what the schools do, how to hire, what they need to build, and they have to get funding and and educational ESPLOS money, things of this nature. [2:11:01, 2:11:21]: to expand uh their their their campuses. And so we cannot deny development based on schools and population of kids and roads or lack thereof, certain type of road network. If I stand corrected, great. If not, please straighten me out. Is that correct? No. Yes, sir. You're correct. Okay. All right. So [2:11:21, 2:11:36]: Let's try to put that to bed. Now, in reference to the um the watershed area, I think Miss Battle mentioned something about the watershed earlier, but uh this property, I mean what what can you explain the watershed or environmental study and things? Was that ever done? How was that done? What was going on with that? [2:11:36, 2:11:42]: So a a c a couple of things with regards to that. It is not unusual. [2:11:42, 2:11:45]: to do development on property that has a stream. [2:11:45, 2:11:46]: Okay. [2:11:46, 2:11:53]: This property has a stream that is what is largely responsible for on the wetlands and the floodplain. [2:11:53, 2:11:56]: we are not developing within that area. [2:11:57, 2:11:58]: The rules in the county. [2:11:59, 2:12:01]: And the rules in the city are identical. [2:12:03, 2:12:06]: The city's code is somewhat based on the county's code. [2:12:06, 2:12:07]: Okay. [2:12:07, 2:12:10]: So even how we calculate the the density. [2:12:11, 2:12:11]: No different. [2:12:12, 2:12:18]: So we didn't come into this space because we were trying to get out of protecting the environment. [2:12:18, 2:12:22]: The environmental requirements in the county and the city. [2:12:22, 2:12:23]: are the same. [2:12:23, 2:12:27]: We are required to have a seventy five foot undisturbed buffer. [2:12:28, 2:12:32]: from the top of resisted vegetation of the stream. [2:12:32, 2:12:40]: Additionally, we have another twenty-five feet of undisturbed, or not undisturbed, uh uh uh unimpro um [2:12:41, 2:13:01]: Impervious area. In other words, we cannot put any pervious paving within the next 25 feet. So it's basically a hundred-foot protective buffer along um the top of the creek. From the top of the creek 100 feet back is protected. That's no different. [2:13:01, 2:13:03]: different in the county than in the city. [2:13:04, 2:13:15]: The other component is we're not building in any of the floodplain area or any of the wetland areas because those are protected areas. So we have to protect those areas. [2:13:16, 2:13:27]: Everything that we're building is outside of the protected areas. So in the area that is protected where the trees are, a lot of the trees are that were mentioned, none of them will be removed. [2:13:28, 2:13:48]: Whatever wildlife, whatever's over in that space will remain. But it's no different than any other property that has been vacant, that has trees on it. Are there, you know, does a deer or something like that run through? Of course. We all any place you live around here, you're gonna have those kind of issues. I don't care what property you go onto. [2:13:48, 2:13:57]: too. But are there endangered species and other things like that on the property? Not to our knowledge. There has been nothing that has indicated that there is any of those issues on the property. [2:13:57, 2:14:07]: There was a environmental study done in terms of delineating the wetlands and the floodplain. And that has been presented and provided to staff. [2:14:08, 2:14:17]: We would have to do that regardless. I don't care whether we're in Henry or whether we are in Stockbridge. The same information gets passed along. [2:14:18, 2:14:24]: So we have to do what we have to do to maintain and protect those things. There's certain certifications and things. [2:14:24, 2:14:29]: During the land development процес that we will have to show and prove that we are not. [2:14:29, 2:14:32]: negatively impacting that [2:14:32, 2:14:33]: Ікосистем [2:14:34, 2:14:35]: That's a part of that hundred foot. [2:14:36, 2:14:37]: That's the bottom line. [2:14:37, 2:14:39]: The areas that we're building in. [2:14:39, 2:14:55]: Um will we have to remove some trees? Yes, but we still have to rem um abide by the city's tree um preservation ordinance. So whatever it is that we're doing within those spaces, um we will have to still abide by the city rules with regards to that. [2:14:56, 2:15:07]: So um we don't believe in any way we are negatively impacting the environment any differently than any other project that comes through, whether it's the city or the county, and I do projects in both. [2:15:08, 2:15:17]: Where we have to protect the stream because it is not only state law, but I mean not only local law, but it's also state law and to a certain extent federal law. [2:15:18, 2:15:38]: Okay, Mr. Anderson, in reference to the Planning Commission, what I understand, and you straighten me out here, Planning Commission will get will be able to hear his case. And whether they say yes or no, it's still gonna come before the council for our approval or disapproval. We over we can override the the planning commission. That's our prerogative to do so. And that's but they've they've they get the first idea, first [2:15:38, 2:15:50]: s cut at this. And we may or may may agree or may disagree. No, even if they approve something we h we may disagree. And so that's part of the process and we're following the process to the letter to T. [2:15:50, 2:15:50]: Correct? [2:15:50, 2:15:57]: Yes, sir, that's correct. The Planning Commission, uh it's only a recommendation just like staff's analysis is just a recommendation. [2:15:57, 2:16:14]: Okay. Now, Ms. Battle, somehow uh before this all d did you do any type of redo uh pre development type of planning with the with the community, anything along those lines that was mentioned here? Well, I was actually looking. Um when I look back in in my files, we did not do anything recently, I will say. Okay. [2:16:15, 2:16:35]: Started this project has been going on for so long. We did actually have a meeting. I've got the list of notices that were sent out. The date of the meeting was in December 2021. We sent notices out to over 600 people. We had roughly about 10 to 15 people that showed up in the meeting, and I can give the names of those individuals necessary. [2:16:35, 2:16:55]: Um we did not have a meeting after that. We went to um planning commission or um ZAB over with um the county. Um we were trying to work through issues. It wasn't the staff that's not supportive of the project. Um we had some issues in terms of delays and time and some of the layout questions and we just made the decision. [2:16:55, 2:17:15]: Particularly because of the death of a couple of the landowners, that the process was just going to take too long for us to work through the issues. And so therefore we thought it was better served to come into the city where we knew not only would we be able to move through and get a yes or a no from the city factor. [2:17:15, 2:17:17]: Faster, but additionally. [2:17:17, 2:17:20]: Once if we were [2:17:27, 2:17:33]: it's benefits to being in the city. And so we think that this was the right place to be and the right move to have made. [2:17:34, 2:17:41]: Mr. Ryan, comprehensive plan. We're one stand up. Comprehensive plan. We're following the comprehensive and properly as as we agreed, as we s laid out. [2:17:42, 2:17:43]: Yes, sir. We are. [2:17:44, 2:18:04]: Okay, Miss Battle, in reference And it should be noted that we're downzoning because half of the property is medium density residential. Okay. The other half is low density residential. We did not ask to change it all to medium density. We actually asked to down zone it in a sense to all low density residential. [2:18:04, 2:18:11]: So we did not go for the most intense use. We went for the lesser because we knew that we were staying under two units per acre. [2:18:11, 2:18:31]: Okay, well no well I think my last question for right now anyway. Uh it was mentioned I believe it's Providence Harbor. Is that the community? Is that okay. So somehow four four sided brick and things of this nature, do you not have that in your plan for this particular community? So so let's talk about that. And I and I can certainly have have um um Rick Martin [2:18:31, 2:18:34]: Come up here as well. This is what we know. [2:18:35, 2:18:41]: The price and and and I can give this because I've just experienced this moment. [2:18:42, 2:18:55]: I bought a home. I I don't go into my personal list very much. It wasn't as type originally. What's up with the but I literally just bought a home. Okay. Um, and I have many builder clients. Okay. And I bought a home in Smoke Rise in DeCav County. Okay. [2:18:56, 2:18:58]: The price for my home that I bought. [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: Which is [2:19:00, 2:19:03]: Over four thousand square feet. My house is [2:19:03, 2:19:05]: Almost five thousand square feet. Mm-hmm. [2:19:06, 2:19:17]: My builder client told me, Michelle, I can't build that four sided brick home now for less than two hundred and fifty plus dollars a square foot. [2:19:18, 2:19:19]: You bought it. [2:19:20, 2:19:24]: For about a hundred and fifty dollars a square foot. Okay. Okay? [2:19:25, 2:19:28]: What people have now that they have bought. [2:19:29, 2:19:31]: To rebuild that home. [2:19:31, 2:19:39]: Would be way more expensive than what the value of the home is to them today. Builders can't build. [2:19:39, 2:19:44]: that same four-sided brick home for what they could sell their four-sided brick home. [2:19:45, 2:20:02]: And so, oops. And so um when we're looking at homes now and they say, well, those homes aren't gonna be worth wrong. Those homes are selling at a price per square foot that is higher than what they could sell their homes for today. Okay. Okay. [2:20:03, 2:20:07]: Because the cost of building homes has increased. [2:20:07, 2:20:19]: Everything we went through the whole lumber issue where lumber prices were skyrocketing. You couldn't even buy lumber to put on your garage because the price of the the lumber was so high. [2:20:20, 2:20:29]: the supply line that was coming in has made significant delays. We are just now rebounding from many of the issues that were happening during COVID. [2:20:30, 2:20:50]: So the price of building a home is far more expensive for the homes that Poulty is going to be building than it would be in past times. So those homes are priced higher. They cost more to build than the houses that many of us are living in today. We wouldn't be able to buy them. Well, some might be able. [2:20:50, 2:21:10]: But some of us would not be able to buy that same home at$250 plus dollars a square foot for a and actually be more than that for a four-sided brick home. So the quality of the homes that we're building, um, Rick can talk to, um, but we believe that the quality of these homes and what the price points on these homes will be, will be in the range that we have. [2:21:10, 2:21:30]: Have indicated even though they're not four-sided brick homes. Will these individuals be offered four-sided brick homes? Of course. Pulti would sell them if every person that came through there wanted a four-sided brick home, you don't think they would sell it to them? Sure they would, because it would it would um they would be um pay more money for them at the end of the day. Right. But those homes would be far [2:21:29, 2:21:33]: far more expensive than what the price points are that we're talking about now. [2:21:33, 2:21:35]: But I'll let Rick can finish there. [2:21:35, 2:21:55]: Thank you, Mayor. Members of the Council. One one uh remark I'd like to make in in addition to what Ms. Battles just said is the current home buyers today are making trade-offs relative to external finishes like full brick for upgrades and standards of living inside the home that you can't see by looking at these pictures. [2:21:55, 2:22:15]: Uh trim packages like uh City Councilman Alexander mentioned, those kind of things, upgrading appliances, finished rooms and and and fashions that aren't customary for a traditional home are choices that we're seeing across the market, not just here in Atlanta, but all over the country. So there's a lot of things that you really [2:22:15, 2:22:29]: really don't translate into those kind of decisions, especially as it comes to kitchen and bath upgrades. Those are things that most consumers recognize translate to increase in value on the resale and something we're very keen to. [2:22:30, 2:22:35]: All right. On that note, those are all my questions thus far. Uh Mr. Alizan, you probably have something on your mind, sir. [2:22:35, 2:22:55]: Yeah, I certainly do. And please believe there's gonna be some requirement for brick. Okay. Certainly we already discussed that. So certainly there'll be some flexibility in terms of um, you know, l allowing some people to do pr uh craftsman style, but certainly there will be some requirement for brick construction on [2:22:55, 2:23:15]: the homes in the neighborhood to match up with what we did with Liberty, to match up with what is across the street uh at Providence Harbor. So certainly that is uh certainly in line with where we're trying to go. But let's make it perfectly clear, okay? Providence Harbor is an outlier over there, okay? It's a really great neighborhood. [2:23:15, 2:23:35]: I know the builder who built those customs homes over there. The neighborhood that we approved down the street, the Liberty community was about four hundred thousand. Is that correct? That was in the four hundred thousand range. Right, between four and five, right. That's what we approved them at. We're looking at six to eight hundred based on current. [2:23:35, 2:23:48]: Right, certainly. There'll be somewhere between that four hundred, four hundred to five hundred range somewhere in there. That was when we started, but now I'm saying they're gonna be even more. [2:23:48, 2:24:08]: Right, I cer I certainly understand that. The Clark Meadow neighborhood is somewhere in the four fifty range, four hundred, four hundred and fifty range in that neighborhood. That's the neighborhood that's on Brandon Road. All of those homes, Moss Point on that neighborhood, um, you know, s down the street as well, those homes are comparably priced. Certainly [2:24:08, 2:24:28]: We want to do something across the street that's comfortable. And this is the middle area between where the Liberty community is, Clark Meadow is, and this is a step up from Clark Meadow. It's a step up from the Liberty community. It's not quite where Providence Harbor is, because Providence Harbor is [2:24:28, 2:24:42]: Custom homes. Some of those homes will sell over sixty units in comparison to some. Right. And some of those homes would sell for over a million dollars. So let's let's let's say we're not good we're not gonna be able to get there. No, we're not gonna be able to get there. [2:24:42, 2:25:02]: We're gonna be in a position where we're gonna do something very nice where young urban professionals or seniors or well-appointed seniors will be able to move to upgrade their home from where they are to stay in the city limits. Cause right now we have people who are moving outside of moving to Hampton, moving to McDonough, because right now [2:25:02, 2:25:22]: Now we don't have anything to offer them to live in the city limits of Stockbridge. Speaking in regards to the school system, do we certainly entrust the school board with uh educating our students? First of all, there's a brand new school under construction called Birch Elementary. [2:25:22, 2:25:42]: Willow Lane that school will open actually for the next school year. The new principle has already been put into place. We very well know that there's going to be a$45 million STEM school that's going to be built right across the street from City Hall by Stockbridge Elementary. The school board has a [2:25:42, 2:26:02]: billion dollar budget with it with it with in combination with East PLOSS and what they have to outlay. They have a plan to expand and the plan that we saw that was divulged to us, there's 5,000 additional student capacity that will be added over the next few years in order to do that. [2:26:02, 2:26:08]: The area is growing. The very same reason that you moved here to Henry County, it always [2:26:08, 2:26:28]: It it just befuddles me when people move here two or three years ago and then they want to stop everybody else from moving here. You just moved here yourself. Now you want to stop everybody else from moving here. The idea is what is really going on is that there's so many people moving here that the market has driven us to where we're [2:26:28, 2:26:48]: We are today. Right now, there's a very few homes that are available for sale because of what is going on with the demand with so many people moving to uh Metro Atlanta. But certainly uh we do want something that's gonna hit that middle gap, in my opinion, between where the Liberty community is, Clark. [2:26:48, 2:26:53]: Excuse me. [2:26:54, 2:27:14]: Please keep it down, folks. But between the community uh of where Providence Harbor is, uh right across the street. And certainly uh again, we don't want to be able to price people out of the market who wanna move here. These aren't affordable these aren't affordable homes at six hundred to eight hundred thousand dollars with the trim. Tell us about the [2:27:14, 2:27:20]: me about the square footage of the particular product. Again, they go up to what how what square feet? [2:27:20, 2:27:40]: Up to four thousand square feet on the Up to four thousand square feet. That's not a starter home. And and then again my recommendation is that we do uh a required we certainly want to have options, but there'll be at least fifty percent of the homes that will be brick. Fifty percent of the home, the other fifty percent would be uh [2:27:40, 2:28:00]: uh you know allowed up to the homeowner, but certainly to be in keeping with what we have uh in the area, a requirement to have some form of brick in that area would certainly be uh accord, because basically that would give us at least half of the homes that would match up with the brick facade of the ones across the street. But of course [2:27:59, 2:28:15]: Of course, we cannot get there in terms of Providence Harbor being a custom neighborhood and as you say there's sixty other homes, but it'll meet the gap between the two neighborhoods and fit in in that way. We'll accept that condition, the fifty percent. [2:28:16, 2:28:17]: Yes, ma'am. [2:28:22, 2:28:23]: Three side. [2:28:23, 2:28:43]: This will be four side brick on fifty percent of the homes will be four size brick. Now the other homes will be certainly will be um again allowed the flexibility and the homeowner to choose them. If the rest of the homeowners choose brick, then we'll have a hundred percent brick neighborhood. Well stand by I he said four sides, but I believe Miss Battle you top off your. [2:28:43, 2:28:44]: I said. [2:28:45, 2:29:05]: Are you are you getting are you all receptive four sided or not? Yes or no? The the only question I'd have about the four sided brick w is whether there's any latitude to break up the architectural detail on the fronts, uh to stay away from that barracks effect when you uh and I use that as a term when we accident in other words, some uh [2:29:05, 2:29:08]: A few accent materials like around the the peaks and things like that. [2:29:08, 2:29:28]: And the in the uh uh details uh the details around the windows and such things as that certainly, but the but the the idea is to have four sides brick. You understand what is traditionally known as four side brick. Yeah. Okay. Well th I guess what where I'm splitting where I'm splitting the hairs is four side [2:29:28, 2:29:31]: Of continuous brick or four sides of brick. [2:29:32, 2:29:47]: Continuous brick. So you want a solid brick wall. I want a solid brick wall. I want to give you some flexibility as you say around the windows and the trim and stuff like that. But what a traditional brick home is,'cause if you do go across the street, Providence Harbor is pretty much a hundred percent brick. [2:29:48, 2:29:54]: We'll try to look at the thing. Anybody on council have any agreement, disagreement of that that [2:29:55, 2:29:58]: Request, we're good with that request? Mayor. Anybody? Yes, ma'am? [2:29:58, 2:30:08]: I I just wanted I had a couple questions because our code actually had specified at one point Councilman Alexander had already [2:30:09, 2:30:13]: Um prior to did we change something where we were stopped requiring brick? [2:30:13, 2:30:17]: And I know I have spoken in the past of the aesthetics [2:30:17, 2:30:37]: um and the facade designs of custom homes um are unique, whether it's stone, whether you know, you have this hardy plank look with the stone and the brick to make them unique, um are some of my concerns. The rest of the homes would be brick stone. [2:30:37, 2:30:49]: So here's one here that has all brick well l let's say all the sides were brick too, but on the front over the garage there's um board and batten. Is that a problem? [2:30:50, 2:30:56]: I would I wouldn't think that would be a problem, no. Okay. Um and Ricky was saying at three. [2:30:57, 2:30:59]: Must have went down the way for the three card orange ones. [2:31:00, 2:31:02]: But you're talking about the sides and the back. [2:31:02, 2:31:08]: Mm so so really councilman that I was referring to with the uh [2:31:09, 2:31:14]: The dormers in addition to the garage. So it kind of breaks up the architecture. [2:31:14, 2:31:21]: The one that you showed me, maybe like the over the garage right there, but certainly I wouldn't but you wouldn't want no. [2:31:22, 2:31:22]: No. [2:31:23, 2:31:23]: There. [2:31:24, 2:31:24]: Okay. [2:31:26, 2:31:31]: Is that is that acceptable? Do you councilman or anybody else? I mean that this type of design [2:31:31, 2:31:46]: I wanna hit the middle where we meet Providence Harbor in fifty percent of the homes in terms of the brick component composition and then it fits in with the rest of the community, which is the Liberty and Clark Middle. So it makes the makes the middle. That's the goal. [2:31:47, 2:31:48]: Okay. [2:31:48, 2:31:51]: Is that that's uh understood with you all? Yes. [2:31:52, 2:31:58]: All right, do you still have questions? I do. Um if if m um Ryan Mr. Anderson, come to the podium, please. [2:32:02, 2:32:22]: Mr. Anderson, um, you've heard and I I hear and see on social media as well as here, um, sometimes uh the some of the constituents have a concern that properties are being annexed into the city of Stockbridge because we have more laxed design codes. Have you had the opportunity? [2:32:22, 2:32:28]: opportunity to look at Henry County's code versus Stockbridge Code. Is it laxed at all? [2:32:29, 2:32:32]: No, it's not. Um they're they're very similar. [2:32:32, 2:32:47]: Okay. Um, is it not true that we um pretty much modeled we tried to do something very similar so we all could be more a little bit more cohesive. Didn't we amend that recently? Could you uh elaborate on it for a minute? Okay. [2:32:48, 2:33:05]: Rem a few years ago s um Henry County used to handle um planning and zoning and and um permitting for the city of Stockbridge. And back then um the UD the UDC was based was primarily the same thing as as Henry County's. [2:33:05, 2:33:12]: Mm-hmm. And so when they update it, they they vaguely changed some things, but most of the design criteria and things of that nature are still the same. [2:33:13, 2:33:26]: Okay. But we added a little bit more of an upscale. Yes, we did. We have some pretty strict stringent uh design criteria, especially within our overlay districts. And uh right now um the whole for front elevation has to be brick, stone. [2:33:27, 2:33:36]: or high end stucco and um you have to have a water a brick water table around the the sides and the back. So our design criteria on residential houses are are pretty stringent. [2:33:36, 2:33:42]: Right. And so these that the designs that are made right now are in compliance with that. [2:33:42, 2:33:45]: Yes, but they presented are in are in compliance with our current code. [2:33:46, 2:33:56]: Right. And uh Henry County's code is not as strict with those codes and the percentages of brick. And Miss Battle, I know you have experience in both. [2:33:56, 2:34:16]: Uh I can. Um Henry County we have had flexibility with the types of facade. Um I quite honestly find you all's facade requirements to be much tighter. Um when we came through on the Liberty one, um we were certainly looking to do a different product. It ended up having to be four sided brick and that was something the developer basically had to swallow. [2:34:16, 2:34:24]: That was not where they started at. So it is very clear that we're not building a lesser product. [2:34:24, 2:34:30]: in Stockbridge. Um you all have made it very clear and quite honestly it is many of the [2:34:31, 2:34:45]: cities on the South Side that have made it very clear that they want the same quality product, if not better product than has been placed. And so that is pretty consistently in all the spaces that I go to. [2:34:45, 2:34:49]: Thank you. I I have no further questions about that. I just wanted to put that rumor to rest. [2:34:51, 2:34:53]: Anybody else? Any other questions from the council? Ms. Barbagoya, please. [2:34:54, 2:35:06]: One of the things that really bothers me though, um, and I get it, um, I am more citizen focused, but business and developer friendly as well. [2:35:06, 2:35:10]: But one of the things that bothers me is with these developments [2:35:11, 2:35:13]: None of us live near. [2:35:13, 2:35:15]: This area. [2:35:15, 2:35:15]: But those [2:35:16, 2:35:17]: I live close. [2:35:17, 2:35:18]: Closer. [2:35:18, 2:35:20]: To this area. [2:35:20, 2:35:22]: than any other council member here. [2:35:23, 2:35:24]: No we're not going to be able to do that. [2:35:25, 2:35:28]: What really bothers me is [2:35:29, 2:35:31]: Not so much as the development, it's [2:35:31, 2:35:34]: My concern with the homeowners for [2:35:34, 2:35:36]: Who live in close proximity? [2:35:36, 2:35:39]: Those homeowners not having an opportunity. [2:35:40, 2:35:42]: To be able to speak with you. [2:35:43, 2:35:44]: What I found though [2:35:44, 2:35:48]: Um, even with those developments that the council approved in my district last year. [2:35:49, 2:35:53]: When I got the opportunity to talk with those homeowners who live in close proximity, [2:35:54, 2:35:56]: I was able to explain to them that [2:35:57, 2:36:00]: The property owner or landowner has a right to sell. [2:36:01, 2:36:03]: And of course the developer has a right to build. [2:36:04, 2:36:11]: What I found is if they are able to provide some feedback or input into what's happening [2:36:12, 2:36:13]: You get them to buy into it. [2:36:14, 2:36:15]: But to just shut them out of it. [2:36:16, 2:36:18]: Or not even give them an opportunity to [2:36:19, 2:36:21]: Kind of share their thoughts. [2:36:21, 2:36:22]: That concerns me. [2:36:23, 2:36:24]: I don't live. [2:36:25, 2:36:26]: In close proximity. [2:36:27, 2:36:28]: To this area. [2:36:28, 2:36:31]: I'm the closest council person that does though. [2:36:32, 2:36:35]: But I'm just concerned about those homeowners who live in close proximity. [2:36:36, 2:36:37]: That may be able to share the [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: Just some suggestions. [2:36:40, 2:36:41]: Um [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: It's their property. [2:36:42, 2:36:43]: That's affected. [2:36:44, 2:36:44]: As well. [2:36:45, 2:36:47]: I'm not saying I I'm opposed to this development. [2:36:48, 2:36:51]: I support voluntary annexations. [2:36:52, 2:36:53]: I want to be clear about that. [2:36:54, 2:36:54]: Yes, sir. [2:36:55, 2:36:56]: The uh [2:36:57, 2:37:17]: The uh um organization of community interaction meetings is a regular practice of ours. We do it all over the country, including uh uh here in Atlanta, on a regular basis. And uh but I must admit that's come at a um uh much less frequently with COVID and the related concerns. [2:37:17, 2:37:24]: Concerns with COVID in some communities who would meet and would not meet. But it's a regular practice of ours, and we agree with your observation. [2:37:25, 2:37:45]: And again, we we did have a meeting with regards to this. It was a while ago, and I will take responsibility for that. But at the same time, we've gone through the Planning Commission meeting in um Henry County where we heard feedback during that time. We've tried to adjust ourselves based on the feedback that we have been hearing when we [2:37:45, 2:37:54]: we came to the meeting last week or or last month, one of the things and we we talked about whether we were gonna have another kind of intra meeting, but quite honestly, based on [2:37:55, 2:38:09]: Some of the things that were said at the last meeting, um, it did not seem that there was any room for compromise. And I'm just being being frank. Um there were some who made it very clear that even coming into the city was not [2:38:10, 2:38:30]: worth it. You know, why why bother to even come into the city? It's, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So there were things that were kind of said that said, look, people have kind of set themselves on this one. If I had to go back and do it again, I probably would have more community meetings um to see if we could find some place of commonality. But I think we have gone past that moment, unfortunately, on this particular matter. [2:38:30, 2:38:36]: Yeah, go ahead, please, Mr. Alzheimer's. Uh at this point I think you know we've Are you done, Miss Barber? [2:38:37, 2:38:57]: We've gone to the point that we've exhausted uh pretty much everything that we've uh talked about. Now, Ryan, would you come back to the podium? Uh so is this appropriate for the conditions at this point or is this just the annexation portion? Uh w what do you say, Councilman? Is this the portion for just the annexation or is this the portion for the [2:38:57, 2:39:06]: rezoning or is it all gonna be voted on at one the annexation comp plan and um rezoning will be voted on to separate separately. Separately. But we heard it all as one case. [2:39:07, 2:39:25]: Right. So this first plan here, the first one uh will call for the the annexation would have to go first. That's right. It's out is outlined on our agenda. Before we go that's I'm just saying, but but but when we do that, the first one would be the annexation. There's no conditions in that, it's just the annexation. Yes. Yes. Okay. [2:39:25, 2:39:45]: Gentlemen, do you have any comments at all down this end? You're both good. Okay. If there are no other comments in council, then we'll do exactly that. We're gonna go through the process, put uh continue on. I have here annexation case AX 2023-05. Once again, it's council district five, council consideration request for annexation of certain property on birth. [2:39:45, 2:39:46]: Brennan wrote. [2:39:46, 2:39:54]: To allow for the construction of a single family detached residential development subdivision. The applicant's Poulty Homes Incorporated CO Battle Group PC. [2:39:55, 2:40:05]: The property contains four parcels of land, landlots two and three of District Seven, and we are listed bel which is listed below one hundred and thirty four point three one acres in on Corpia Henry County. [2:40:06, 2:40:14]: 931 Brandon Road, parcel 088-02055000, contains five acres. [2:40:14, 2:40:34]: One zero zero Brandon Road, parcel zero eight eight zero two zero five seven zero zero zero to include the southwestern track only, which contains twenty nine point zero nine acres. Parcel uh number zero eight eight das zero two zero five six zero zero zero contains eighty seven point three three acres. Proper [2:40:34, 2:40:49]: Parcel number zero seven zero dash zero one zero zero five zero zero one contains twelve point eight nine acres. And of course it was presented by the community development staff, Mr. Ryan Anderson. Counsel, is there a motion to accept this annexation case? Mayor. Yes, sir. [2:40:49, 2:41:03]: I just I got one more quick. Mr. Anderson, the staff's recommendation was what? Approval. The staff's recommendation was approval as this is be a considered to be a quality addition with this annexation, is that correct? [2:41:03, 2:41:11]: In staff's opinion, yes. Absolutely. And that I would like to make a motion to approve uh as the crowd as described by you, Mayor. [2:41:11, 2:41:12]: All right, is there a second to the motion? [2:41:14, 2:41:17]: I second. Miss again I second then. Okay. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:41:19, 2:41:39]: Unanimous decision. Okay, thank you very much. Now we have comprehensive plan amendment case CP dash two zero two three-two excuse me dash zero six located council district five, council of consideration requests a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land use designation of low density residential to certain property on Brandon Road to allow for construction of a single [2:41:39, 2:41:59]: Single family detached residential development with a subdivision. Applicants, Polte Group, Incorporated C O Battle Group PC. The property contains four parcels of land lots two and three of District Seven and are listed below of one thirty-four point three one acres in incorporated Henry County. Once again, nine four one Brandon Rome, parcel dash zero eight eight. [2:41:58, 2:42:18]: 1100 Brandon Road, Parcel 088-02057000 to include the southwestern track only, which contains 29.09 acres. Parcel 088-02056000 contains. [2:42:18, 2:42:34]: contains eighty seven point three three acres. Parcel number zero seven zero dash zero one zero zero five zero zero one contains one excuse me twelve point eight nine acres. Once again, council I need a uh motion to accept or approve this comprehensive planned amendment. [2:42:34, 2:42:36]: So move. Is there a second to the motion? [2:42:37, 2:42:40]: I second. Okay. Ms. Ken. All favor, please indicate. [2:42:41, 2:42:55]: I have a question, Mayor Ford. Really quick. What's the question? Are there multiple entrance and exit points for this, or is there just one entrance point and exit point? There's two, but let me double check, yes. [2:42:56, 2:43:02]: Okay. Um wait a minute. Two entrances. Two means of ingress and egress. Your [2:43:04, 2:43:11]: All right, the motion was made by Mr. Alexander, so moved by and seconded by Ms. Kant. All in favor, once again, the motion, please indicate. [2:43:12, 2:43:32]: Shenar's decision, thank you very much. Rezoning case RZ-2023-07. Once again, Council District 5. Council consideration to request over rezoning to assign the zoning district of SR, suburban residential district, to certain property on Brandon Road to allow for the construction of a single family detached residential development. [2:43:32, 2:43:52]: Which is a subdivision applicant, Polte Group Incorporated, CO Battle Law PC, probably contains four parcels of landlots two and three of District 7, as listed in and below 134.31 acres in the corporate Henry County area. Of course, once again, 941 Brandon Road, parcel number 0. [2:43:52, 2:44:12]: 088-02055000 contains five acres one one zero zero Brandon Road parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero five seven zero zero zero to clue the Southwestern track only which contains twenty nine point oh nine acres parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero five six zero zero zero contains [2:44:12, 2:44:27]: contains eighty seven point three three acres, parcel zero seven zero-one zero zero five zero zero one contains twelve point eight nine acres. Once again counsel need a motion to approve it or or deny this particular um motion, excuse me. [2:44:27, 2:44:35]: This actual r rezoning case. Uh Mayor, I want to the clerk, Miss Colliday, did you have the conditions that we were adding? [2:44:39, 2:44:42]: Well, the condition was for the fifty percent brick, correct? [2:44:46, 2:44:47]: Mm-hmm. [2:44:52, 2:44:59]: Right, but fifty percent would be required to be brick. And then the other fifty percent it would be up to the buyer. [2:45:01, 2:45:05]: Right. We have a ten foot multi use path along the frontage of Brandon Road, is that correct? [2:45:07, 2:45:13]: Ryan. Sir, can you repeat it? We have a ten foot multi use path along the frontage of Brandon Road. [2:45:13, 2:45:15]: Yes, that's what they agreed to do. [2:45:15, 2:45:17]: They have agreed to do that. Yes. [2:45:19, 2:45:21]: Yes, current condition. Okay. [2:45:22, 2:45:26]: Okay, uh flock can uh would Miss Batter, y'all come back up, please. [2:45:28, 2:45:28]: Sir. [2:45:31, 2:45:42]: Can we allow Mr Aaron Mr Anderson to read all the recommendations into the record? Well he certainly will. Well I just wanna make sure we get the one added ones. Councilman Al Chanderson. Going back to the brick. [2:45:43, 2:45:43]: Okay. [2:45:44, 2:45:50]: Is there the flexibility still there around the window? That needs to be stated. Right. [2:45:51, 2:45:55]: There's flexibility around the windows and above the garage. Yeah. [2:45:58, 2:46:12]: No, we asking for uh we've asking for as the new code has advanced, uh flock cameras to be uh surveillance cameras to be placed at the entrances of new subdivisions. [2:46:19, 2:46:25]: Okay, you're in d you're in accordance with that. Okay, those conditions will be added and read the other conditions in as well. [2:46:25, 2:46:45]: Okay. The first condition, the proposed subdivision shall be constructed according to a design which is similar to the one that is shown on the applicant submitted site plan entitled Conceptual Plan SR Zoning Brandon Road, which was which was prepared by Falcon Design Consultants, dated 129-22 and representing sheet one point. [2:46:45, 2:46:46]: No. [2:46:47, 2:47:07]: Um this is a a condition that um we usually don't play Sam, but uh the rezoning should not be approved unless the applicants requested variance V R twenty three oh four to reduce the required minimum front yard setback from fifty to thirty-five feet is approved before sim simultaneously with the approval of RZ. [2:47:07, 2:47:22]: The developer shall preserve the existing cemetery on the property, including the provision of unobstructive access to it, the provision of protective buffering around it, and the regular maintenance of the cemetery grounds. [2:47:25, 2:47:27]: Yeah. Yes, yes, ma'am. [2:47:33, 2:47:53]: Um the rezoning shall not be approved unless the applicant obtains an updated letter from Henry County Water Authority, which states that adequate water and sanitary sew are available or could be made available to serve the subdivision and that the developer complies with all requirements in a timely management. As recommended by the findings of the applicant traffic impact study, [2:47:53, 2:48:10]: Developers shall stop install the right turn lane, deceleration lanes at both site driveways along Brennan Road. The rezoning should not be approved unless the applicant submits an environmental impact study which provides satisfactory environmental data. So they they've complied with that. [2:48:11, 2:48:12]: Yeah. [2:48:16, 2:48:36]: So I'd like to just make a statement with regards to uh the the conditions and just make sure we're clear on them. The one with regards to the variants, um you all will be hearing the variants. I would ask for that um condition number two to be removed because that's a separate matter, whether we get the variants to um [2:48:36, 2:48:56]: Push the set back from 30 from 50 feet forward to 35 feet. Staff was making the zoning conditioned on us getting the variance. So I would ask for that to be removed. With regards to the environmental study, we have now provided information to [2:48:56, 2:49:16]: staff that we believe has addressed that issue and so I would ask that that either be modified or removed because we've we've complied with that. I would ask that we add because it's not here in the recommendation but it is on our site plan the 10 foot size [2:49:16, 2:49:21]: the sidewalk along the frontage of um Brandon Road. [2:49:22, 2:49:31]: It's not necessary because it was conditioned on the site plan. Oh, well he said it was conditioned on the site plan so you don't need it. But and if you want that extra assurance, we're okay with you adding that. [2:49:31, 2:49:51]: We certainly want to make sure that it's in there and to uh extra assurance. Now you said that you were okay with do you they provided the impact study, environmental impact study, and then you were okay with removing that condition. You're okay with it? Yes. Yes, sir. Um we received the environmental impact study today and uh we went through it and it was satisfactory. And I also [2:49:51, 2:50:04]: So uh I don't know how that condition still was left in there. Usually uh I take those out uh contingent on approval of another zoning action. So we really don't want that in there anyway. And we talked about the flock camera. So it shouldn't have been in there. [2:50:05, 2:50:15]: And you and we agreed to the I guess that you said item number two was gonna come out. There's a variance of something that needs to come out? Right, because you are gonna hear the variance next after you vote on the rezoning. [2:50:17, 2:50:19]: You'll have to call that one because it wasn't called with the rest of them. [2:50:20, 2:50:25]: Mayor. We've already we comprehend [2:50:25, 2:50:35]: The barren have to be. Okay. Okay. All right. Got it. [2:50:36, 2:50:38]: All right, so what so the motion on the floor though [2:50:40, 2:51:00]: It's dealing with the rezoning case, correct? Right. We you just listed all the new motions, Mr. Clerk did, and Ryan read the existing motions into the conditions. In conditions into the record. We have all of those. Ms. The Clerk has them. All right, so so that's been added to the motion. So the motion was once again it was made by you. [2:51:00, 2:51:06]: Mr. I wasn't a second by the same. Yes, so Ms. Gantt. Ms. Gantt, you second that move forward. Okay, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:51:08, 2:51:12]: Okay, you name is in Ms. Barber, you in favor? [2:51:16, 2:51:18]: [10279.0, 10279.3]: A [2:51:19, 2:51:20]: Eight. Eight. [2:51:24, 2:51:34]: The variance is next. No, we did that. From the rezoning. We're we're Oh the rezoning is a seven. With that's why we put the conditions in. Okay. [2:51:38, 2:51:55]: Once again, the motion was on rezoning for seven. Right. All right. Mrs. Azander made a motion. Ms. Gantt second that motion. So all in favor, please indicate. Okay, you good? All right. Now we'll go to the reverence case, right? [2:51:56, 2:52:16]: Okay, variance case, VR two zero two three-03. As a matter of fact, the last one, Miss Holiday, is unanimous decision on that. Okay, Council District 5, Council consideration and requested variance on certain properties on Brandon Road to allow for the construction of a single family detached residential development subdivision. The purpose of the variance request is to allow for reduction. [2:52:16, 2:52:36]: of the four, excuse me, of the front yard setbacks from the required 50 feet to 35 feet. The applicant is poly group, incorporated CO Battle Law PC. Property contains four parcels of landlots, two and three, district seven, and listed below with the one th 134.31 total acres in unincorporated Henry County. Once again, 941 [2:52:36, 2:52:56]: one Brandon Road parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero five five zero zero zero contains five acres one zero zero Brandon Road parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero five seven zero zero zero to include the southwestern track only which contains twenty nine point oh nine acres parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero one. [2:52:55, 2:53:13]: Process zero seven zero das zero one zero zero five zero zero one contains twelve point eight nine acres. All right, so for we need a motion to approve or or disapprove or deny this particular variance case. Any motion please. [2:53:13, 2:53:29]: Ryan, l reach state the this was uh recommended for approval. Yeah, the um the staff recommended approval of this variance due to the the topograph topographical issues and water stream issues and other development constraints that are associated with the subject property. [2:53:30, 2:53:50]: Well, this is like a minimum level. It's not the standard. It's just for those exceptions. Yes, sir. It's only a fifteen feet. It was almost within um staff administrative uh right. So it's only five feet. Um so it's a fifteen feet variance. Um the standard is fifty feet, and they're asking for [2:53:50, 2:53:51]: reduction to thirty five feet. [2:53:51, 2:53:59]: On those like I said, that's this that's the exception, not the rule. Yes. Okay. All right. Soma. Sir, second the motion. [2:53:59, 2:54:10]: Yes, ma'am. I'd like to defer to legal and uh isn't this a public hearing on the variants? Yes, it is. I'm sorry, yes. Well I thought we we we had public hearing already. On all three of them first. [2:54:11, 2:54:12]: Oh, are you kidding me? [2:54:13, 2:54:14]: What? [2:54:14, 2:54:15]: But [2:54:16, 2:54:30]: W women now. Different type of uh uh legislative action. So it would have to be it can't be heard um from with the rezoning time plan. [2:54:33, 2:54:49]: Okay. All right. All right. Okay. On the variance case, this is a public hearing then on the variance case. Um in this aspect, so I'll open up that public hearing strictly on the variance for the Brandon Road properties. [2:54:50, 2:55:05]: Anybody for uh the variance uh case itself on my very left side? Anybody forward that wants to speak on this? Anybody in the middle forward wants to speak on this? Positively. Anybody on my far right that wants to speak on this? [2:55:06, 2:55:10]: All right, anybody against that wants to speak on this on my far left side? [2:55:12, 2:55:14]: Okay, anybody in the middle? Whatnot? [2:55:16, 2:55:17]: I'm sorry. [2:55:18, 2:55:19]: Given a chance to forget. [2:55:24, 2:55:25]: Would you like to do it afterwards? [2:55:26, 2:55:31]: Okay. Okay. [2:55:31, 2:55:45]: All right, so anyway, anybody in the middle that wants to speak on the variance case of uh negative comments. Anyone on the very right side? All right. All right, w go ahead, your n your name and address please. Deals with the variance at the Brandon Road property. [2:55:54, 2:56:00]: And most of the people for that project have already left and therefore aren't here. [2:56:05, 2:56:08]: Thank you. Um, next comment please. Name and address. [2:56:11, 2:56:15]: And in fields three, two, nine, chase very way, a fellow. [2:56:18, 2:56:20]: This is a public hearing, Mayor. [2:56:21, 2:56:25]: There was no public commentary for the comprehensive plan or [2:56:28, 2:56:36]: Well you had an opportun well, you actually had an opportunity to address that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead with your comments, please. [2:56:37, 2:56:47]: Okay. You had when you were here earlier, when you spoke earlier for more than three minutes, you had an opportunity to speak on on those three issues, those issues that are that are read. [2:56:50, 2:57:05]: We were combining the public hearing for annexation, comprehensive plan, and rezoning into one commentary session. And in the last meeting that I attended in um November, we were discussing individually these cases, and we would have the public commentary. [2:57:06, 2:57:08]: I believe I confined them in the last meeting as well. [2:57:08, 2:57:10]: Yeah we've been December up. [2:57:11, 2:57:14]: Okay. That's why you didn't know that. Okay, any other comments that you have? [2:57:17, 2:57:18]: Okay. [2:57:23, 2:57:33]: All right. What well th th do you had the opportunity to speak, ma'am. Everybody had an opportunity to speak on all those issues. If you have nothing else, then w I'll end the public here if you know the comments and we'll move on. [2:57:35, 2:57:35]: Mm-hmm. [2:57:37, 2:57:40]: Can you please tell me what the overall setback is going? [2:57:41, 2:57:42]: [10663.8, 10673.1]: Oh I'll tell you what, the presentation will be made by the applicant when you're done with your s uh uh when you're done with your statement. You'll you're answer they will answer your question for you. [2:57:53, 2:58:03]: Thank you. All right. If there's no other comments, you know, for or against and we'll end this particular public hearing. In this aspect, Miss Battle, could you come back up for your presentation, please? [2:58:04, 2:58:06]: Um oh no okay. [2:58:07, 2:58:08]: Excuse me. [2:58:09, 2:58:10]: Your name and address, please. [2:58:13, 2:58:14]: Talking to the mic, please. [2:58:17, 2:58:18]: Okay. [2:58:20, 2:58:21]: How noise it on? [2:58:23, 2:58:25]: Is it green? Do you see a green light? [2:58:27, 2:58:28]: I guess [2:58:29, 2:58:32]: Uh Brian, could you go p uh turn this on please? [2:58:37, 2:58:38]: Thank you. [2:58:39, 2:58:49]: Um I'd just like to point out that um I'm really upset how you were you were rude to that lady. Um [2:58:49, 2:59:09]: I think it was uncalled for. All right. I think she had a very valid question um and concerned. And I think it's unfair that y what y'all are doing. Um and to as as far as the uh setback, um, those are townhouses. Come on now. [2:59:09, 2:59:22]: Those aren't estate houses. Um it's ridiculous that they think they can get those houses for the amount that they're they're asking. It's it's laughable. And I'm really just shocked that [2:59:22, 2:59:25]: Y'all are talking about this like this is normal and [2:59:28, 2:59:28]: Yeah. [2:59:30, 2:59:33]: It's it's hilarious. Okay. It really is. [2:59:34, 2:59:38]: Yeah, that's it. Thank you for the comments. All right, Miss Battle, can you come on back for your presentation? [2:59:47, 3:00:07]: Thank you, Meredith. Michelle Battle with Battle Law, 3562, Haversham at North Flake, Tucker, Georgia, 30084. The original hearing when you called all three items for everyone to be able to speak to all three items did not include the variance hearing. It was clear that that variance hearing [3:00:07, 3:00:27]: Hearing was going to be separate, and we come before you today with regards to why we were asking for the variance. Right now, the code requires a 50-foot setback. We are not reducing in any way the lot size. In fact, we've got larger lot sizes along Brandon. [3:00:27, 3:00:47]: Road. However, all impervious surface impacts the surrounding wetlands and floodplain. And so what we are trying to do is to reduce the amount of impervious surface that would be that could be impactful. [3:00:47, 3:01:07]: Would reduce some of the sizing on the detention ponds and keep the site much more compacted. And so with that, we are asking to reduce from 50 feet to 35 feet. As it stands right now, to get from the street to the house will be roughly about [3:01:07, 3:01:27]: 45 feet of length. If we add on that additional 15 feet, you have an extremely long driveway. And so that is why we're asking for the relief again to be able to reduce the amount of impervious surface, thereby reducing the amount of flow into the detention pocket. [3:01:27, 3:01:42]: response and um trying to just be more environmentally sensitive on on this particular site. All the driveways, there will be no driveways directly off of Brandon Road. All of the driveways will be off of the interior streets. [3:01:43, 3:01:48]: All right, what kind of c oh thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. What kind of questions do you have, Miss Battle Council? [3:01:49, 3:01:57]: Any c any questions at all? I do. Yeah, go ahead. Um, I don't necessarily support um these thirty five feet setbacks. [3:01:57, 3:01:58]: Yeah. [3:01:58, 3:02:03]: Just reminds me of all the town homes that were approved. So I don't [3:02:04, 3:02:24]: So the setback on a townhome typically you would see more like 20 feet. Um the 35 feet, um, quite honestly, in most neighborhoods, is fairly customary. A 50-foot setback is pretty far um in terms of um again the length of the driveway and [3:02:23, 3:02:43]: And one of the things again that we are really concerned about on this site because we're trying to keep down the amount of impervious surface, there's a balancing act between trying to protect the environment and having these longer um driveways from for an aesthetic purpose. We believe that the environmental concerns that have already been raised by the community are much more [3:02:43, 3:03:03]: Prevalent on this site, and therefore that is why we are seeking to reduce that setback so that also allows us to have that larger home as well on the footprint because the actual buildable envelope on the site would be bigger. So if we push that back, that means that the buildable [3:03:03, 3:03:07]: [10988.0, 10993.9]: Well, so does the yard with the smaller variants though. [3:03:14, 3:03:20]: No, because if if if we part of the reason why and I'm let me see if I can um show this on the um [3:03:22, 3:03:26]: plan so it makes a little bit more sense. [3:03:27, 3:03:47]: I apologize because this one actually says 30 and it was 35. But um the way that we are showing um the lots now, um you can see here that the the lot itself is 95 feet in width and 160 feet in length. What we're trying to do. [3:03:47, 3:04:07]: Do is make sure that we have a large um not only the large buildable envelope there, but again reducing the amount of driveway into the house. Um, and so it's 35 not 30 for the setback. The rear setback is 40 feet. So if you're taking the 160 feet and we added the 50 back in. [3:04:07, 3:04:27]: Then that means that you would have basically 90 feet of property that would not be usable in any way. And the middle portion of the site, and some of these sites are not exactly, some are a little bit longer, some may be a little shorter depending upon what the configuration of the site is. But that would basically cut out almost. [3:04:27, 3:04:33]: So um again we're just trying to make sure that we have um [3:04:35, 3:04:44]: as much space on the lot for the home and also um trying to reduce that amount of impervious surface going back towards the house. [3:04:46, 3:04:49]: Yeah, a question for Miss Battle, Council. [3:04:51, 3:04:55]: Everybody's good on this side. All right, then uh let's just see here. [3:04:57, 3:05:17]: Variance case VR two zero two three-03 to Council District 5. Council consideration to request a variance on certain property on Brandon Road to allow for the construction of single family detached residential development subdivision. Purpose of the variance request is to allow for reduction of front yard setbacks from required 50 feet to 35 feet. [3:05:17, 3:05:37]: And Ponglet Pouli Home Pole Group Incorporated C O Battle PC, the property contains four parcels, landlots two and three of District 7. As listed below with 134.31 total acres and unincorporated Henry County. 941 Brandon Row, parcel 088-0205-5000-000. [3:05:37, 3:05:45]: Contains five acres. 1100 Brandon Road, parcel 088-0205-7000. [3:05:45, 3:06:05]: To include the southwestern track only, which contains twenty nine point zero nine acres. Parcel zero eight eight-zero two zero five six zero zero zero contains eighty-seven point three three acres. Parcel zero seven dash zero one zero zero five zero zero one contains twelve point eight nine acres. Need a motion to accept or deny [3:06:05, 3:06:12]: this very case. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Now Mr Berry, seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [3:06:13, 3:06:31]: Okay. Now we go into the annexation case AX two two uh two zero two three dash zero six once again located council district five. And this is dealing with the annexation case. I'll read that comprehensive uh plan amendment as well as [3:06:31, 3:06:51]: The rezoning case. And we'll be talking about this and all at one and then we'll vote separately on each one of these cases. So anyway, council consideration to request the annexation of certain property on and near Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for construction of mixed-use development consistent uh consisting of multifamily residential and rental structures. [3:06:51, 3:07:11]: and retail commercial uses on a portion of property. The applicant is Waypoint Residential, CO Dennis J. Webb, Jr., Smith, Gramble, and Russell LLP. The property contains four parcels of landlock 46 of District 6 as listed below is 20.91 total acres in on according county. [3:07:11, 3:07:26]: And parcel number 052-01025027 contains 11.428 acres. Parcel number 052-01025028 contains 4.279 acres. [3:07:27, 3:07:47]: Parcel number zero five two-one zero two five zero two one to be annexed but not included within a proposed development. Contains one point six one one point one six four acres. Once again, a comprehensive plan amendment, okay, CP two zero two three-07. [3:07:47, 3:08:07]: Council District 5. Once again, council consideration to request a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land use designation of medium density mixed use to certain property on and near Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for the construction of a mixed-use development consisting of multifamily residential. [3:08:07, 3:08:16]: and retail commercial uses. And applicant of course is Waypoint Residential CO Dennis J. Webb, Jr. of Smith Gramble and Russell LLP. [3:08:18, 3:08:38]: And then we'll also go into the rezoning case of RZ2023-08. Once again, Council of District 5, Council consideration to the request of the rezoning is to assign the zoning districts PUD, Planned Unit Development, and PMU, Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District, to a certain problem. [3:08:38, 3:08:58]: Property on Practic Henry Parkway to allow for construction of mixed use development consisting of multifamily residential and retail commercial clear uses. The applicant is waypoint residential CO Dennis J. Webb, Jr. of Smith, Gramble and Russell LLP. The property contains three parcels of landlock 46 of District 6, which consists of twenty point two nine. [3:08:57, 3:09:02]: total acres in Ona Corbia Henry County. Mr. Anderson, please. [3:09:03, 3:09:23]: Okay. Yes, Mayor, I'll be discussing three zoning cases for this particular project: the annexation, the comp plan, and the rezoning. Got it. Uh okay. Currently, um there this this project consists of four parcels of land on Patrick Henry, consisting of 20 acres. The current use is vacant. However, there's a cemetery. [3:09:23, 3:09:38]: in the northwest portion of the property. The current zoning is C2 General Commercial. The current county land use designation is MX, which is similar to the PUD zoning that they'll be seeking in the city of Stockbridge. [3:09:40, 3:09:42]: Here's the aerial photo of the property. [3:09:43, 3:09:48]: It's in the middle of two city parcels, so it's contiguous on both the northern end and the southern end. [3:09:51, 3:10:11]: Properties to the north, C2, which is General Commercial, City of Stockbridge, PUD, Plan Unit Development, City of Stockbridge. The properties to the south are RR Rural Residential, City of Stockbridge. Properties to the east, OI, Office Institution of Henry County, and PD PD, Plan. [3:10:11, 3:10:17]: development in Heron County. Properties to the West RR Rural Residential City of Stockbridge. [3:10:21, 3:10:28]: Here's the zoning map, the joint zoning map b between um the city zon has the city zoning and um the Henry County zoning. [3:10:30, 3:10:38]: And you can see that the property is compatible with the surrounding community. There's MX and PUD in the vicinity. [3:10:41, 3:11:01]: The surrounding land use designations. To the north of the property, you got vacant land and you got the child care agency and you have Georgia Power. The existing land use, you got mixed use Henry County, mixed use Henry County, mixed use Henry County. Also keep in mind that the applicant is applying for PUD in the city. Property to the south is [3:11:01, 3:11:20]: Vacant and you got rural residential city of Stockbridge. Property to the east, you have a dermatology and law offices and the Eagles Landing Subdivision. And the land use, you have mixed use, medium density residential, Henry County. Property to the west is vacant and it's rural residential city of Stockbridge. [3:11:25, 3:11:27]: Here's the joint future land use map. [3:11:35, 3:11:48]: For the annex portion, the staff recommends approval. Um the property's contiguous on both the n north and southern end of of the city. So it meets the criteria for annexation. So staff recommends approval for that. [3:11:51, 3:11:53]: Yeah, C P twenty three though. [3:12:01, 3:12:05]: So now I proceed to the um the comp plan portion. [3:12:07, 3:12:12]: I discussed it briefly during the annexation. Uh the subject proper is [3:12:13, 3:12:31]: It's currently land use designation of MX, which the similar zoning in the city would be PUD. So as a result uh of this staff recommends approval because of the um the compatibility with the existing land uses and the surrounding land uses. [3:12:35, 3:12:37]: Now I move to the rezoning portion. [3:12:53, 3:12:55]: Here's the aerial photo with the site plan. [3:12:59, 3:13:02]: Here's the site plan with the parcels uh label. [3:13:08, 3:13:10]: Here's another area photo with the site plan. [3:13:12, 3:13:13]: Insert it. [3:13:15, 3:13:28]: As I previously mentioned that um this pro zoning proposal is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood. The current county zoning is MX, which is the same as the uh zoning that the applicant is seeking in the city. The city zoning is PUD. [3:13:34, 3:13:38]: So as a result of this, um staff recommends approval with conditions. [3:13:45, 3:13:48]: So I like to read the c conditions into the um [3:13:50, 3:14:10]: Into the record. Um the first condition is the density rate shall be kept at sixteen point four dwelling units per acre or a maximum of three hundred and twenty-four residential units for the entire mixed-use development. The project will be in conformance with the City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code and all other city code sections regard regarding [3:14:10, 3:14:30]: Regarding the site development standards and other requirements that are found. The proposed mixed use development shall be constructed according to a design which is similar to the one that is shown on the applicant submitted site plan titled Waypoint Residential, which was prepared by Kimley Horn and Associates on September twenty-eighth, twenty twenty-three. A twenty-five-foot buffer shall be installed, installed on the north. [3:14:30, 3:14:37]: South and eastern sides of the property. A deceleration lane, as shown on the site plan, shall be provided. [3:14:37, 3:14:42]: The development the developer shall take appropriate steps to preserve and protect the cemetery. [3:14:42, 3:14:47]: The develop the developers shall establish a maintenance of all the common areas in the development. [3:14:47, 3:14:50]: A fence must be installed adjacent to the doll parking. [3:14:50, 3:14:52]: And on the Georgia Power Easement. [3:14:52, 3:14:53]: On the south side of the property. [3:14:54, 3:15:14]: All non-commercial parking facilities shall be screened from the view of the Patrick Henry Parkway by the use of maintenance, by the use and maintenance of tall dense landscaping. The proposed development shall not block any existing or future easement access to parcels zero five two zero one zero two five oh two one, which is a current easement. [3:15:14, 3:15:29]: for the billboard sign. And no structure shall be built within the file zone of any interstate billboard which is located or may be located on parcel 052-01-025021. That's staff report. [3:15:33, 3:15:36]: Applicant. All right. Council, any questions? [3:15:37, 3:15:38]: For Mr. Ryan Anderson. [3:15:39, 3:15:59]: This project falls within District Five as well. Uh certainly, Ryan, you've done your due diligence in looking at the project and have uh assessed the project and what it is. This sorta offers us uh what the traditional mixed use now uh a component combined with [3:15:59, 3:16:19]: Well uh office space in addition to retail. In into in addition to the retail. And this kind of what it does is piggyback off a lot of the development development agreement standards that we had at Jodico, is that correct? Yes, sir. And also this is uh we have a um Patrick Curry Master Plan study going on. [3:16:19, 3:16:23]: now and this will be folded into that that master plan at a later date. [3:16:24, 3:16:44]: Okay, some of the things you know that we have discussed ourselves, such as at the uh signalized uh intersections, having the black mass post arm signals uh at those intersections, as well as having um uh stamp paper crosswalks to kind of highlight [3:16:44, 3:16:59]: those areas as such similar to what we did uh over at the Jodico project as well. Yes. Mm-hmm. Okay. Certainly I would like to see those things happen as well. As far I do understand, Mr. City Manager, will you come to the podium as well? [3:17:09, 3:17:29]: We certainly do have always have that contention, even though the mayor mentioned there is not consideration of denial in traffic or schools are not um cannot be a a groove for denial. In this project, there are some transportation improvements corrective. You've been discussing uh in [3:17:28, 3:17:36]: Coordination with Henry County, uh, which would include a widening of that section of Patrick Henry Parkway. [3:17:37, 3:17:42]: Yes, sir. The uh the goal is to have Henry Henry uh [3:17:43, 3:18:03]: Patrick Henry Parkway four-leaned. So the two leans that you see now that goes between Jodika Road and Eagles Landing, that is the northbound side of what would be the four-lean portion of this of that roadway. So part of that discussion is um do we address that as part of the new splots? [3:18:03, 3:18:07]: as well as um condition with the developers who develop along the corridor. [3:18:08, 3:18:24]: Right,'cause so as they're developing this project, they develop pretty much they would be able to develop this the other half. Oh the other half of'cause Patrick Henry is built is that it has one side basically that has the median on the other side, correct? [3:18:24, 3:18:32]: Correct. So in this case you'd probably wanna make if if it's the wish of the council to approve it that there's some condition that says that they should leave [3:18:32, 3:18:34]: Or um [3:18:34, 3:18:37]: Pay some portion of the road based on the length of their roadway. [3:18:37, 3:18:43]: They would dedicate towards the road towards the uh widening of Patrick Henry when that time comes. [3:18:43, 3:19:03]: The widening of Patrick in here at that time cove. So certainly I I thank you and I I I appreciate that. And as I mentioned earlier, um we certainly did look at and I know again schools can't are not a reason to deny uh based on what we have been taught and the law, but certainly uh [3:19:03, 3:19:23]: Again, there is a new elementary school that's under construction on Willow Lane and McDonough. Certainly Dutchtown High School has been expanded. Dutchtown Middle will be next along NettleRone. Union Grove Middle will be accordingly. And then 5,000 additional student capacity. [3:19:23, 3:19:43]: Capacity spaces will be made available throughout the Kenry, throughout Henry County. And contrary to what is popularly believed, the school system is not at capacity, it's in certain areas, such as that Dutch town cluster, which is being expanded, where the capacity is actually limited, but other areas there. [3:19:43, 3:20:00]: there are our ability to to expand. And certainly I said before, our forty-five million dollar STEM school will take some of the weight off of some of the local high schools like Eagles Landing, Dutchtown, and several others all over the count all over the county as well. So thank you. [3:20:02, 3:20:09]: Any other questions, Council for Mr. Anderson? I didn't know. Oh oh stand by please. Ms. Barber, go ahead. [3:20:10, 3:20:14]: I'll yield to Ms. Berry. Mr. Berry, go ahead, please. I just have a question as as far as [3:20:16, 3:20:31]: Um there was a cemetery on this property, is that correct? Yes. A small cemetery on the northwest portion. It's on the northwest corner. Yes, sir. And approximately how large is the cemetery? Um [3:20:34, 3:20:41]: That's a small cemetery. I'm trying to see if I have a um if it's on the site plan. I mean on the um [3:20:52, 3:20:53]: Sure. [3:20:59, 3:21:00]: Mm-hmm. [3:21:11, 3:21:16]: I can't I don't have a picture of the cemetery, but it's a it's a relatively small cemetery. It's it's [3:21:18, 3:21:38]: You have a general idea exactly where it's located? Um and I'm assuming it doesn't affect the project overall. No, it it won't affect the project at all. That was that was my last question. How does it affect and what was the No, they w they would have to be um a certain distance as as mandated by law from that uh cemetery. Okay it's close to where the billboard is and uh [3:21:38, 3:21:58]: The I think is one of the r requirements is that there's can be nothing built underneath the billboard structure. No, you can't have anything underneath the billboard as far as uh the height plus thirty-three percent, the height of the billboard plus an additional thirty-three percent. So if the billboard's a hundred feet, then um the drop zone would be a hundred and thirty-three feet. [3:21:57, 3:22:14]: The fall zone would be a hundred and thirty three feet. Similar is it similar to the last project to where there will be uh some level of access to that cemetery? Yes. Okay. Yes, sir. We're requesting that as uh um as one of our zoning conditions and also uh [3:22:14, 3:22:25]: the um they can block the access to this easement for Georgia power as well. So I was trying to find you a picture of the cemetery. [3:22:31, 3:22:33]: So there's nothing else than that. [3:22:33, 3:22:45]: Yeah. It's like a one person cemetery. Uh I don't have a picture of it, but it's it's it's re it's a really small cemetery. Yes, it's real small. It's like one or two people. [3:22:45, 3:22:46]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:22:47, 3:22:49]: You have a do you have a question? [3:22:57, 3:23:01]: Wanted to ask, was a community forum held for this? [3:23:01, 3:23:02]: Community form, um [3:23:03, 3:23:16]: Sorry. Yes, the applicant um they tried to have community meetings, um, but I'm not sure if they had a community forum. So but um Councilman Alexander, do you know? [3:23:16, 3:23:17]: At the um [3:23:18, 3:23:19]: Yeah. [3:23:20, 3:23:21]: Yeah, yeah [3:23:22, 3:23:40]: He the applicant tried to have a uh offered to have a meeting after the after the planning commission. He met with the residents. What do we need to do with I'm sorry, is the applicant here? Y yes, the applicant is here. They tried to meet with the residents before. Ms. Ms. Barber, go ahead with your question. [3:23:46, 3:23:56]: So yeah, uh as uh Mr. Anderson was saying, uh we were unaware of any opposition actually until we showed up. I'm sorry, uh Din Webb 1105 West Beastie Street, Atlanta, Georgia, three oh three oh nine. [3:23:56, 3:24:02]: Um we were unaware of any opposition actually until we appeared at the planning commission. There were two people [3:24:02, 3:24:17]: Uh this lady is one and there was another person there. And at that meeting I said, I am happy to meet with them. I will meet them in the back of the room after this meeting, take their names and address and set something up. I went to the back of the room and they'd already left. So we did have an offer, but we did send out letters. [3:24:17, 3:24:24]: Uh uh we've had a sign in front of the property for a long time and um so we you know, we've offered, we haven't had one. [3:24:25, 3:24:27]: Okay, M Ms. Barber, you have some questions? [3:24:28, 3:24:30]: That's good. You okay, Mr. Alzheimer's, do you have any other questions? [3:24:31, 3:24:46]: No, uh what I what I would like to know is in terms of uh where you were going, as you said you were unaware of there was opposition into the past. Talk about your um involvement in similar projects,'cause you've done many of these projects, correct? [3:24:47, 3:25:00]: Yes, sir. Uh i uh uh I I've done a project recently in Stockbridge where we did have community meetings. Uh I've done projects in other jurisdictions. You know, whether we have a community or community meeting or not has a lot to do with what uh [3:25:01, 3:25:13]: the neighborhoods that access where we are. I'm not aware of any actual r single family residential neighborhood that has a driveway onto Patrick Henry Parkway between Eagles Landing Parkway and Jodico Road. So we we're on a very commercial corridor. [3:25:13, 3:25:18]: It di it wasn't obvious to us to go out and try and find neighborhoods that would be interested in this project and [3:25:18, 3:25:35]: I'm gonna say this. Uh I'm not I I think if we hadn't been on the agenda with Brandon Rowe, we might not have had any uh interest in this, to tell you the truth. But uh you know uh I offered, uh that's a fact, we've got a record, Ryan heard it, it's it's in type, and uh the folks who offered it to didn't want to meet apparently. [3:25:36, 3:25:49]: Oh okay sir, thank you. Any other questions at all for the council? I got a question for him when he get when she gets I do. Go ahead. Um for clarity and this is for Mr Aaron. I mean Mr Anderson. Right. Can you come to the podium please? [3:25:50, 3:25:51]: Because um [3:25:52, 3:25:58]: I know that in our code it does speak to um homeowners whose property a butt. [3:25:58, 3:26:03]: Um the development. No three hundred feet. What about those properties that don't abut? [3:26:04, 3:26:05]: the proposed development. [3:26:06, 3:26:07]: But are nearby. [3:26:09, 3:26:12]: What do we need to do to make sure that there is adequate [3:26:13, 3:26:18]: Well in the future. [3:26:19, 3:26:39]: Uh yes, we will have to do something about that. But however, uh the 300 feet is above the state law minimum. So technically um you you only have to send it to the prop to to the adjacent property owner. However, we do extend out to 300 feet. And starting in March, we will have a a CZIM, a community zoning. [3:26:39, 3:26:56]: information meeting which will be which would be spearheaded by the developers. They will be mandated to go to this CZIM and invite the um the residents of the community. So we are doing something, we do have something planned to address that and it will be coming before council soon for approval. Thank you. I appreciate that. Okay. All right. [3:26:57, 3:27:11]: Mr. Alexander, away please. Yeah. Again, um talk about similar developments that you have done um is uh uh uh in Metro Atlanta and talk about those projects and their assimilator or their differences. [3:27:12, 3:27:32]: So I I I've been doing this a long time. Uh I do it in a lot of different jurisdictions. Uh, you know, for similar projects, I I did the rezoning for North Cab Mall last year uh for Eden's, which was uh a significant multifamily or mixed-use development on 72 acres. Uh in terms of other mixed-use projects, I've done Town Brooking. [3:27:32, 3:27:33]: Kavan [3:27:33, 3:27:53]: Which is a 52-acre uh development in North Atlanta in the city of Brookhaven. I did Decatur Crossing into Cab County, which was about a 40-acre mixed-use development that Fuque development was behind, uh, with you know, again, you're talking twelve hundred residential units and hundreds of thousands of square feet of uh retail and commercial. [3:27:53, 3:28:00]: space and I've done everything in between. I'm I do I'm in in a jurisdiction like this two or three nights every other week. Um so [3:28:01, 3:28:06]: I've got my fair share of experience with mixed use development, so does Waypoint Residential. Uh you know [3:28:07, 3:28:25]: I try and think that I I you know, I I represent a uh a high class of developer. You know, I uh I think um you know Michelle Battle had Pulty homes. I think that was viewed as a a step up for Stockbridge to move up into uh, you know, a a level like that. And I think most of my clients represent that too. I certainly think Waypoint is in that category. [3:28:25, 3:28:27]: So I [3:28:28, 3:28:35]: I could go on for an hour about the number of the types of developments I've been involved in. Here I was involved in that Vista residential development on on Flippin' Road. [3:28:35, 3:28:55]: Absolutely. And uh let's talk about uh the general from what I understood there was some economic impact data that you had discussed earlier uh that was presented that the project represented uh approximately three hundred fifty million potential three hundred fifty million dollars uh investment internal [3:28:55, 3:29:00]: in terms of the economic impact or uh to the community? [3:29:00, 3:29:02]: I don't have that data. [3:29:02, 3:29:09]: I don't think that came from me. Uh certainly there will be a positive economic impact uh from this development. This is twenty acres of [3:29:09, 3:29:18]: Basically undeveloped land that's generated. Yeah, I think that came from Mr. Murphy. Tax revenue. Pardon me. I think that came from Mr. Murphy. Mr. Murphy. [3:29:22, 3:29:25]: So what's the city manager? He's a no controller. [3:29:26, 3:29:27]: Ready representative. [3:29:31, 3:29:32]: Yeah. [3:29:36, 3:29:56]: In terms of this particular development that we've been talking about uh in terms of for the past several months, in terms of uh with Mr. Murphy and his team, this was part of the concept, correct? Um this this parcel is just adjacent to it, uh north of the plant area that we've been working in for the past. [3:29:56, 3:30:03]: Patrick Henry Master Plan. So this is adjacent to it to the north. Right. Okay. Yep. Okay. Go ahead, continue, I'm sorry. [3:30:05, 3:30:25]: In terms of uh uh as we go down the line in terms of we were talking about some potential interested parties and that kind of thing. So what we recognize is that project, that mixed use development that would have um vertical mixed use with commercial residential above, uh standalone commercial. [3:30:24, 3:30:44]: office, hotel, um, single family attached, uh, multifamily, and um or I think if I'm not mistaken, auto dealer that's already on board um for the project. But this will be just adjacent to that. That's what's planned in that area for master plan for that area. [3:30:44, 3:30:45]: Yeah. [3:30:47, 3:30:50]: All right, if anything else you need to answer, anything else right now before we [3:30:50, 3:30:52]: Move on to open uh to a oh uh [3:30:54, 3:30:55]: Two public hearing piece. [3:30:58, 3:30:59]: Let me just quickly [3:31:01, 3:31:20]: Yeah, let me just touch on a couple things. Uh you know, first of all, as the annexation petitioned, in this case, Henry County was notified of our request to annex into into the city of Stockbridge. They had an opportunity to file a formal objection with the DCA and they didn't do it. So they're aware we're here, they know what we want, and it's and they didn't file an objection. Um [3:31:25, 3:31:31]: I can talk about some of the details of the development itself, but kind of piggybacking on some of the questions that were just raised. [3:31:32, 3:31:42]: Uh first of all, we have provided for the expansion of uh Henry County Parkway. You'll notice d uh on the site plants a little bit, let me see if I can shrink this slightly. [3:31:45, 3:31:49]: You'll notice uh the property line here. [3:31:49, 3:32:05]: Patrick Henry Parkway here, there's a gap of about a a hundred feet or so between the edge of the right-of-way and you know sort of where we're we're putting the buildings. And the intent is that is the southern side of the expansion of Patrick Henry Parkway. So we have uh accommodated that. [3:32:05, 3:32:18]: Uh someone asked about the cemetery. Uh the state law requires a 50-foot buffer around all sides. It is a small cemetery. It's a small family cemetery, there's only a couple plots, but we are absolutely 100% abiding by the state requirements of providing a 50-foot buffer on all all sides. [3:32:22, 3:32:29]: I've heard a lot of talk about multi-use path. We are providing a 10-foot multi-use path along uh that follows the entire fundage of Henry County Parkway. [3:32:29, 3:32:38]: And you're willing to put that in there? Yes, sir. It's actually on our site plan, but of course. Yeah, if you want to make a specific reference to that, uh I'm fine with that. Um [3:32:42, 3:32:48]: So how many signalized in the total set signalized in in the signalized entrances? [3:32:48, 3:32:58]: Um there's no signalized entrance at at at present. We are proposing two curb cuts. The primary entrance is here. You see a uh this curb cut off of Patrick Henry comes into a roundabout. [3:32:59, 3:33:07]: And it is this building six where the the the commercial component of this development is is is centered. And so um let me see if I can blow that up a little bit. [3:33:10, 3:33:18]: So, you know, the folks who want to go to the coffee shop or the the clothing store, whatever w commercial winds up in this building, will come in here, park. [3:33:19, 3:33:19]: Uh oh. [3:33:20, 3:33:29]: on the the uh north side or east side rather of a gate that will be there to separate the commercial uh traffic from the actual residence in the development. [3:33:31, 3:33:42]: Uh in terms of traffic, let me just touch briefly on that. We did submit a traffic study, okay? And it's it was current, uh it's something we prepared as part of this application, which you've only been pursuing for a couple months. [3:33:42, 3:34:02]: And and I think the important point to mention is this. Ryan mentioned several times, you know, what we're not what we're proposing to do really any different one than what Henry County would allow us to do, right? It's a mixed-use uh designation on the comp plan, which jibes with the PUD zoning district that we are seeking, and also jives with the comp plan designation we're we're seeking. But Henry County has zoned this property for C2, which is the highest. [3:34:02, 3:34:18]: you know, individual c uh commercial zoning district, which is actually designed for shopping malls and things like that, sports arenas. And our traffic study indicates that what we're proposing would actually generate 60% less traffic than what could be built on this site under the existing Henry County zoning. So the traffic impact is significantly less. [3:34:19, 3:34:25]: than what we're proposing. And of course, Henry County Parkway is an arterial road which is designed to handle traffic in any event. [3:34:25, 3:34:26]: Um [3:34:27, 3:34:32]: Heard a little bit about design criteria. We've pr put together a board, a concept board that shows [3:34:32, 3:34:33]: Yeah. [3:34:33, 3:34:35]: what this development is proposed to look like [3:34:35, 3:34:48]: Unlike I think the development that we you talked about before, we're in an overlay. So we're actually in the parkway overlay, which does have design criteria uh uh adop adopted and advanced by the city, so we'll be following those uh strictly. Um [3:34:49, 3:35:03]: In the res in the in this commercial in in this commercial component as you have you have residential on top and then you have commercial on the on the bottom levels that correct. So on on building six, yes, sir. So we've got let me back up a little bit. [3:35:06, 3:35:26]: So there are seven buildings total. We are proposing commercial in this primary building, which is called Building Six. And it will be ground, we'll have 14,000 square feet in that building of non-residential space that will include 5,000 square feet of true commercial and also the amenity, like a fitness area and leasing. And it will be shopfront behind shopfront glass. [3:35:26, 3:35:40]: So it's designed to look like your typical mixed-use development. We don't believe, and I I think the staff agrees with us that uh storefront commercial uh is not appropriate in every building, but it does make sense in building six, and that's what we're proposing here. Um [3:35:44, 3:35:56]: If I can ask a really quick question, how many entrance and exit points? Is it two? Two. Okay. So on the real project is a c is a one more question. [3:35:57, 3:36:00]: Please the cemetery. Yes, ma'am. [3:36:00, 3:36:04]: Are you all required to put a fence or something around it? [3:36:05, 3:36:17]: Yes, ma'am. And we're provided w we are required to fence it, we're pro provide required to buffer it, and we are required to provide easement access to the families uh that want to visit it. And so all of those things will be provided here. [3:36:21, 3:36:29]: Sorry, I'm skipping around'cause I d we just sorta started with questions and I didn't run through anything, but let me try and see if there's anything else I want to mention. [3:36:30, 3:36:50]: You know, in terms of density, we're proposing sixteen point four units per acre. Again, we're in the parkway overlay, which will allow a lot more than that if we wanted to. We're not trying to max out this site. We're trying to do something that makes sense for what's in the area. And something that will complement uh you know the the development that Mr. Gardner referred to next door, which is really uh more than a development, it's a mixed-use area. And this is a part and parcel to that. This will [3:36:50, 3:36:57]: uh feed into it, fit into it, and certainly complement it. And I think it could be a catalyst to get thing that thing moving uh as well. [3:36:59, 3:37:19]: There are a variety of amenities on this site: a pool, courtyard, grill areas, dog walk, and fitness. And I think one of the more interesting amenities is this. You'll see on the north and south sides of this development, we have uh detention ponds. We plan to activate one. So it's actually gonna be an amenity for this development. It will be, you know, look great, have p uh trails around it, and something that the residents can actually use and enjoy. [3:37:19, 3:37:25]: Doing a fountain to Korea. We we can. Yes. [3:37:25, 3:37:26]: Um [3:37:27, 3:37:35]: Something unique about this development too is we actually have garage spaces for uh 42 of the residents. We're providing 42 garage spaces on this site. [3:37:50, 3:38:09]: The only other thing I'm gonna uh m talk about is this. So staff has proposed nine conditions. We're agreeable to all, but we want to would ask you that you consider one uh uh uh change, and that is there was a reference to allowing uh existing and future easements to the billboard site. We we've been talking to the billboard guy. So if you go back to this [3:38:10, 3:38:10]: The beginning here. [3:38:12, 3:38:14]: What we're we're asking for [3:38:14, 3:38:17]: Ферст істо анексі твоє пона екс. [3:38:18, 3:38:25]: From Henry County into the city of Stockbridge. That consists of four tracks. I'm gonna highlight this rectangular track here on the west side. [3:38:25, 3:38:45]: That's the billboard site. We're not trying to rezone that property. It's not part of a rezoning application. Uh it it is uh should be and I believe will be uh zoned the same way in the city of Stockbridge that it is zoned in in Henry County, which is C2. But we've been talking to uh that billboard owner about how he's gonna access it. There are some easements there now. [3:38:45, 3:39:05]: But he's open to moving them. I think it's not the easements there now are not very functional for him. So I would ask that the reference to existing easements be struck. You can keep the reference to future easement, but again, we've been talking to him. We know we need to provide access, we're gonna provide access, and I think collectively we decided that maybe uh there there's a better way to get there than the way he's allowed to do that. [3:39:05, 3:39:17]: D do you want the easements to come out of the conditions right now is the way stated? Well w all I'm really asking for is the word existing in that easement condition come out. We'll commit to providing easements, but like I said [3:39:18, 3:39:25]: I don't think the easements as they exist now work well for the billboard developer. And we've been talking to him already about trying to move those around. So [3:39:26, 3:39:34]: We will provide easement access. It may be exactly where it is today, but we'd like the flexibility to if if he wants to move it somewhere else to do that. And as and as long as that condition says. [3:39:35, 3:39:42]: You know, we'll maintain the existing easements, we can't do that. So if I would ask that the word existing be struck from that condition, the rest of it can stay. [3:39:45, 3:39:47]: Uh i it wasn't numbered [3:39:55, 3:39:56]: No, it's it's yours. [3:40:14, 3:40:17]: So we we're in agreement with that. We could just say um future. [3:40:18, 3:40:20]: Instead of our existing. [3:40:31, 3:40:43]: The the the the condition read the proposed development shall not block any existing or future easement access to parcel to parcel zero five two dash zero one oh two five oh two one. [3:40:43, 3:40:46]: So we'll just take out um existing. [3:40:48, 3:41:04]: And leave future in there. Do you need to place it with another word or just take it all together? Uh and and why you think about counsel, you have is that is that you all good with that? Mr. Alexander? You good? As long as the staff is good with the I need to hear from the city attorney or the city manager. [3:41:04, 3:41:06]: In reference to that. [3:41:07, 3:41:08]: All right, Mrs. Gardner, are you available? [3:41:18, 3:41:38]: This is in reference to a statement involving the uh staff recommendation. Um the it deals with the the easement and uh taking the word out, resisting out, uh but allowing them the flexibility to uh to have a pathway to the billboard and they'll communicate continue communicating with that billboard owner. But I guess wanted to get your [3:41:38, 3:41:57]: Your opinion on that and I guess your clarification or support this aspect. What I propose to take out. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Let's let's finish this one first, please. I propose taking out the reference to existing, but reading it now, I I this might be a a better solution. The proposed development shall provide easement access to parcel. [3:41:57, 3:42:13]: Zero five two, so on and so forth. Maybe that's the simple way because yeah. We we're gonna provide easement access. He's got it now. I think it may move. It might move so that just give you flexibility to put it exactly move it wherever it needs to be, as long as it exists. Right. Okay. So the word is coming out or not coming out now? [3:42:14, 3:42:15]: What I would propose. [3:42:16, 3:42:16]: Sorry, Greg. [3:42:18, 3:42:29]: What I would propose is that condition read, the proposed development shall provide easement access to parcel number zero five two zero one zero two five zero two one, period. [3:42:30, 3:42:31]: Okay. [3:42:32, 3:42:40]: I I don't mind doing it by just removing the word easement, but I think that actually is a better solution in uh a little bit more. Ms. Barber, does that satisfy your requirement? [3:42:42, 3:42:48]: Are you okay with it, Mr. Gardner? That's what we want to do. Oh yes sir. Yes sir,'cause they'll have to illustrate it on their development plans when they come in for approval. [3:42:49, 3:42:50]: [13371.6, 13378.5]: I miss uh Miss Holliday you you got that written down or An Anison Anison, do you understand all that? [3:43:02, 3:43:02]: Okay. [3:43:06, 3:43:13]: And the actual wording. You understand the wording? You got the got it? Yes, sir. All right, Miss Miss uh Gantt, do you have a question? [3:43:14, 3:43:15]: Well the [3:43:17, 3:43:26]: Protection of the cemetery and access to the cemetery was kinda broad and I kinda wanted it spelled out a little bit more on what exactly the plans were going to be. [3:43:27, 3:43:47]: So the plan is to provide a a fifty foot buffer around it so there's no development or anything going on within fifty feet of the boundary of the cemetery. Uh we we will fence it and provide access to the family and we can reference all that into condition, but that is actually state law. So uh when we go into permitting, that's you know something that the staff would be required to look at and make sure we provide. [3:43:47, 3:43:54]: So we can put it in a condition, but it's it's there by law anyway. So we're we're fine either way. Okay. Okay. [3:43:55, 3:43:57]: Yeah, questions council. [3:43:58, 3:44:18]: Okay, if not, uh open this up for a public uh hearing and obviously when we have this pub this particular hunt public hearing, it'll be dealing with annexation, comprehensive plan amendment, as well as the rezoning for this particular case. So public hearing is open. Anybody [3:44:18, 3:44:38]: Have any comments for this public hearing? Comments for on the very my very left side, comments four. Anybody for comments four in the very middle? Line up over here on my far left. Any comments for this annexation on my far right? If you have positive comments from my far right, please glance. [3:44:38, 3:44:40]: Yeah. [3:44:40, 3:44:50]: Okay, seeing no more. So we'll start this now. Come forward, give me a name and address and your po uh your positive comment in reference to this case, please. Miss uh holiday, please start the clock. [3:44:52, 3:44:55]: Mayor Four excuse me, Mayor Ford Council members. [3:44:56, 3:45:04]: My name is Charles Marshall, my wife Yvonne, and I live at 140 Somerset Hills, McDonough, Georgia, which is in the Eagles Landing area. [3:45:05, 3:45:07]: Within the city limits of Stockbridge. Okay. [3:45:07, 3:45:13]: I'm here tonight not only as a resident of Stockbridge, but as the president of the Henry County Coalition Committee. [3:45:14, 3:45:18]: Representing seventy eight members who mostly live in the Eagles Landing area. [3:45:18, 3:45:19]: of Stockbridge. [3:45:21, 3:45:23]: We have been advocates. [3:45:23, 3:45:26]: For improving the quality of life within our community. [3:45:27, 3:45:31]: Від кваліті хомс, апскіл ресторанц, шопінг аріас. [3:45:32, 3:45:34]: The widening and paving of our streets. [3:45:35, 3:45:39]: Ком'юніні центр з фамилий парк<unk> оловвич ви абиничьосі. [3:45:39, 3:45:40]: Thanks to your commitment. [3:45:41, 3:45:42]: And vision. [3:45:43, 3:45:45]: For the continuing development of our city. [3:45:47, 3:45:49]: These are exciting times. [3:45:50, 3:45:54]: We have shown the rest of Henry County that we the city of Stockbridge. [3:45:55, 3:45:58]: Кинтайк Лід і Макенар Ситин охо. [3:45:58, 3:45:59]: for a better future. [3:46:00, 3:46:03]: And I thank this council for your vision. [3:46:03, 3:46:04]: What? [3:46:04, 3:46:05]: This city can be. [3:46:07, 3:46:12]: These plans for the further development of the Patrick Henry Parkway are just another example. [3:46:13, 3:46:16]: Of how we can continue to make our city the kind of place. [3:46:16, 3:46:18]: We can all be proud of. [3:46:19, 3:46:23]: Those kinds or these kinds of developments have long been needed. [3:46:24, 3:46:25]: And waited for. [3:46:26, 3:46:27]: And now we have a chance. [3:46:28, 3:46:29]: To make them happen. [3:46:30, 3:46:33]: I and many others in the community support the initiative. [3:46:34, 3:46:39]: And look forward to your motion to approve and to move forward. Thank you. [3:46:40, 3:46:44]: Okay, thank you, sir. Come come forward name and address, please. [3:46:52, 3:46:55]: Good evening. I'm Good evening, go ahead. [3:46:55, 3:47:08]: I'm Joseph Chrissy. I live on Twenty Pleasant Valley Road, McDonough. I which is actually just across the street from where this d proposed development is happening. And [3:47:10, 3:47:14]: I wanted to inquire or uh [3:47:15, 3:47:25]: about the footpaths uh or the multi-use paths, like sidewalks and the like. Um [3:47:26, 3:47:31]: And he I had had mentioned that that was in the planned development. [3:47:31, 3:47:51]: And uh there was also a comment on the residents within the vicinity of the development. Uh and I think that the development would benefit the commun the surrounding community. Uh [3:47:52, 3:48:12]: with uh like business the businesses and uh especially the footpaths, I personally would be for like the foot the footpaths. Sorry I'm saying that so much. Uh because going up m being up and down that road all the time, I notice that [3:48:12, 3:48:32]: There are a lot of people riding bikes or are on foot trying to get back and forth from like the Walmart and uh the businesses that are along Hudson Bridge. Uh currently, there are no other footpaths or sidewalks to get there, and so if you actually [3:48:32, 3:48:52]: drive along Patrick Patrick Himmy Parkway, you could see where the shoulder is worn from so much foot traffic. And so I've walked out I've walked along it myself a time or two, and there are a lot of uh like rocks and roots. [3:48:52, 3:48:52]: And [3:48:53, 3:48:54]: Uh [3:48:54, 3:49:08]: Things that can trip people up along that path and it makes riding like bikes and scooters very difficult. So uh I just wanted to com comment that. [3:49:10, 3:49:25]: Appreciate it. Thank you for your comments. Thank you very much. All right. There are no more comments uh for. We'll take comments that are against this particular proposal from the very left. Line up from the very left. All right. Comments from the very left, please. Any comments, negative comments in the very middle? [3:49:26, 3:49:33]: The line up on the left hand side, any comments from my very right that wanna indicate any negative comments in reference to this development. Okay. [3:49:34, 3:49:35]: All right, now [3:49:35, 3:49:38]: So okay, now please come forward, give me your name and address, please. [3:49:41, 3:49:45]: Ann Fields, three two nine Chase, Marion Way, McDonough. [3:49:45, 3:49:46]: Can [3:49:48, 3:49:50]: Can I ask for clarification? [3:49:50, 3:49:55]: We're talking about a setback that would include the uh southbound lanes of [3:49:55, 3:49:59]: Patrick Henry Parkway, correct. So from the existing curb [3:50:00, 3:50:02]: On Patrick Henry right now. [3:50:02, 3:50:03]: We're gonna set back. [3:50:04, 3:50:12]: The roadway, and then they're asking for an additional thirty feet from that point. Is that correct? [3:50:19, 3:50:22]: We'll get you an answer here shortly. Well, what else what other kind of concerns do you have? Go ahead. [3:50:24, 3:50:41]: We'll get you an answer before you leave tonight. We'll get w what what what other things we have on your mind? Well that is my biggest concern of Patrick Henry Parkway widening. Okay. Um the m is there anything preventing bicycles from using these multi use paths? Because um Henry County had wanted [3:50:42, 3:51:01]: Bike lanes, specific bike lanes. Where I come from, you don't ride bikes on sidewalks. So is there a state law or a county law that prohibits the use of a bicycle, including an electric bicycle of class one or two nature on the multi-use pathways? [3:51:02, 3:51:07]: Okay, we'll get you an answer shortly. Okay, because it would be counterproductive to not [3:51:07, 3:51:18]: If it's if you can't ride your bike on it, then it's not a true multi use and then we need bike lanes still. The overlay that Henry County has been working with is what [3:51:19, 3:51:39]: Is to give us the lighting structure, the landscaping structure that we're looking for. If we're going to develop Patrick Henry Parkway, my biggest concerns are for the aesthetic look of Patrick Henry Parkway as a whole, and also to advise you all that the one 45 mile [3:51:39, 3:51:44]: mile an hour speed limit sign that existed on that road is gone today. [3:51:45, 3:52:02]: So the only speed limit sign from when you pass uh Waffle House all the way down to the thirty-five mile an hour zone at the end as it rounds the corner, there is no speed limit currently posted on the southbound side. [3:52:03, 3:52:08]: So I don't know if you guys would address that because it seems to have been removed. [3:52:09, 3:52:14]: Because of the construction that Henry County has caused there right now. So I can take it up with the county. [3:52:14, 3:52:18]: But I did want to mention there's nothing marked there now. And it's been there for years. [3:52:19, 3:52:23]: Thank you, appreciate it. Next uh individual, name and address, please. [3:52:27, 3:52:30]: Connie Snow, four twenty six Chase Marion Way, McDonough, Georgia. [3:52:32, 3:52:33]: Go right ahead, please. Two comments. [3:52:34, 3:52:54]: So I'm not really gonna speak too much on the development because we all know you're gonna approve it and pass it. We've already been through this a few times with other developments. You're not really gonna listen to us. There's really no point. So I'm gonna express some other items. On 928, I appeared here for the first development project off Patrick Henry Parkway to the Planning Commission in which it was denied. [3:52:54, 3:53:06]: On nine thirty I attended the Bridge Fest event and for the first time had met Al Elton Alexander. When I tried to discuss with him about the Patrick Henry Parkway, he had told me it was already a done deal. [3:53:06, 3:53:26]: Okay. Well, one second, man. First of all, uh I read the comments earlier how the instructions in reference to the public hearing rules. This particular public hearing right now deals with Patrick Henry. It doesn't it doesn't deal with Holloway Road or anything else. No, I'm talking about Patrick Henry if you'd let me finish. Okay. All right. And then the other thing is is that [3:53:26, 3:53:41]: that uh y not only address me, but you really should not be addressing or or referring to any other council members in reference to your comments. All right. Well I'll I'll keep doing that. All right, let's go on then. We'll go ahead and speed along. So basically on nine thirty I was told it was done dil. For me [3:53:42, 3:53:53]: My for me, I was baffled. I thought that everything had to go through a a matter of policy and procedures or rules. And none of us had had a chance to really hear much on this. So I couldn't understand why it was a done deal. [3:53:54, 3:54:14]: My questions, however, pertaining to this actual project are as follows. On august eighteenth, there was a meeting conducted with people on this board regarding this project, where you guys discussed it. On September 20th and 22nd, the attorney reached out for the developer to Mr. Ryan Anderson asking if that meeting on August [3:54:13, 3:54:32]: August eighteenth could suffice as the pre application project. And if he needed to complete another application, at which time he was told that the meeting that you guys had would suffice as it. I don't know what happened during that meeting, neither does the public. I'm pointing out that because it's a very big area of concern, not just for me, but a lot of people in this community. [3:54:33, 3:54:53]: In addition, what's happening around here is you guys are immediately annexing off the land, throwing it into PUD, not adhering to county here uh county setbacks or variances. Oftentimes if there's a a neighborhood up close to it, we are not getting the same respect as other people in the county would. And the variances are [3:54:53, 3:55:11]: severely diminished to where it actually hurts our property. Um we in our area do not feel like we are getting due process because to me, if y'all had this meeting on August 18th, when was the meeting with the county? I was told the county like denied it. So when did that meeting happen? [3:55:11, 3:55:30]: I mean this is January, so that y'all had a meeting on August eighteenth. Um, according to y'all's procedures, uh a pre-application meeting must be had in front of a staff planner during that meeting, and then the pre application pre application must be done within up to one week prior. [3:55:30, 3:55:38]: There was no staff planner in that meeting on August eighteenth, and I kind of feel like that meeting circumvented the process that you guys set forth. That's in your book. [3:55:40, 3:56:00]: I'm gonna keep going. I know other people wanna speak. Here's what I'm saying. While you're protecting the rights of builders, yes, sure you are protecting their rights, you are infringing on ours. We are not getting the same equal protection as every other citizen in this county is, and that's because you move it over to PUD, don't adhere to variances. Our health, our overwhelm safety overall safety, our quality of life is being [3:56:00, 3:56:12]: diminished. You don't hold public hearings for us. You're doing a lot of things behind closed doors. And it's not being honest and upfront. And at the end of the day we're suffering. So you guys can keep hiding what you want to hide, but we all know you're not doing the right thing. [3:56:13, 3:56:17]: Thank you. Uh next comment from this individual please, name and address. [3:56:21, 3:56:41]: Hi, Tasha Kempel, 410 Chase Maringway, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. How are y'all doing? Um, I had noticed today whenever I was running down Patrick Henry that y'all had installed the new street lights. I think they're beautiful. Question is y'all um stated that y'all were gonna be doing why. [3:56:41, 3:56:50]: On that Patrick Henry. So if you look on one side, there's the street lights, the other side is the power lines. [3:56:50, 3:57:05]: So is this a waste of tax dollar money? Because it hasn't even been widened and y'all are putting brand new equipment up and polls. So is this gonna be more labor, more costs later on when you go to have to like rewiden it? Why don't you stop the project right now? [3:57:06, 3:57:09]: Save the tax dollar money until you can get the road widened. [3:57:10, 3:57:20]: And also another thing is how many lanes specifically is for this road. I was heard I heard three and then I heard four tonight, so I'm just wanting to clarify that as well. [3:57:22, 3:57:24]: That's it. Thank you. Mm-hmm. [3:57:28, 3:57:32]: Okay, no problem. Thank you. Uh sir. Name and address, please. [3:57:34, 3:57:37]: Frederick Skinner, one hundred twelve, Saxon Lane McDonough. [3:57:38, 3:57:40]: Wanna just ask a question, a couple of questions. [3:57:40, 3:57:43]: You talked about the schools and that you guys can't [3:57:44, 3:57:48]: Can't uh the schools don't dictate what we get built in our communities, correct? [3:57:49, 3:57:50]: Correct. [3:57:52, 3:57:56]: Bring out all all these people in and it affects our schools. Is that not correct? [3:57:57, 3:57:58]: I'm just asking. [3:57:59, 3:58:11]: Sir, people move here. We I'm no, I'm asking. I'm asking'cause you already said that they're gonna move here. So I just figured it was easier to ask you. You guys control who move here, basically. No we don't. No, no, no. You don't? [3:58:11, 3:58:13]: So why are you approving all these properties? [3:58:14, 3:58:15]: If you don't [3:58:16, 3:58:22]: Okay. Well, Okay. I guess that wasn't the right question. Okay. We'll go to the next. [3:58:22, 3:58:25]: So as commissioners, we already talked about [3:58:26, 3:58:31]: You guys talked about a couple of things. I was walking about just taking notes as you were talking. You talked about the schools. [3:58:32, 3:58:34]: You talked about the master plan. [3:58:34, 3:58:37]: We have a master plan, Costco over the corner. [3:58:38, 3:58:40]: And uh is that a master plan, the Costco building? [3:58:41, 3:58:44]: I don't see any I'm just curious. Is that I'm asking no question. Is that a master plan? [3:58:45, 3:58:53]: Is it on a master plan? The Costco part of the Bridget of Jodico. It's part of part of it. Have we have we sold out of those apartments and homes over there? [3:58:54, 3:58:56]: I doubt it. Not yet. Those are rentals, right? [3:58:57, 3:58:58]: They're not home, so [3:58:59, 3:59:01]: You're trying to build more rentals. [3:59:02, 3:59:03]: Right next to us, right? [3:59:03, 3:59:04]: in our community. [3:59:05, 3:59:08]: And we already have a set on Jodico that just opened up that are rentals also, right? [3:59:09, 3:59:13]: So where's the value coming in for people that really want to buy a home? So [3:59:13, 3:59:15]: Like my kids, they want to buy a home, they can't. [3:59:16, 3:59:19]: Не канафордованка з оверs. [3:59:20, 3:59:21]: We have nothing for them to buy. [3:59:24, 3:59:25]: I'm a build I work in homes. [3:59:26, 3:59:27]: All I see are rentals. [3:59:28, 3:59:32]: My kid can't afford to buy rent and he can't afford to buy a home. So what does he give? [3:59:33, 3:59:34]: I don't want to move back with me. [3:59:35, 3:59:36]: But that might be what he has to do. [3:59:37, 3:59:42]: Because you guys are bringing in rentals. You're bringing in stuff that we can't the kids can't afford. [3:59:42, 3:59:45]: New first time homeowners can't afford the rent. [3:59:45, 3:59:46]: They can't afford to buy a home. [3:59:47, 3:59:48]: I'm gonna leave that alone. [3:59:51, 3:59:56]: I can get a little extra time, I'm sure, right? Everybody else got extra time. Right. Go ahead, sir. Okay, thank you. [3:59:57, 4:00:00]: The one thing that I I I keep hearing in this in this meeting. [4:00:01, 4:00:03]: And I need you guys to really understand that. [4:00:03, 4:00:05]: You guys keep short changing people. [4:00:06, 4:00:07]: You guys are here for the people. [4:00:08, 4:00:12]: Regardless of what all this other stuff if you have, if you dislike us or don't like us, [4:00:13, 4:00:15]: You were here because of the people. [4:00:15, 4:00:18]: And if that's not what you're here for, just tell us. [4:00:19, 4:00:20]: We don't mind. [4:00:20, 4:00:24]: We'll find somebody else that wants to help the people because that's what it's all about. [4:00:25, 4:00:29]: I I get that you know you wanna improve everything and I'm for it. [4:00:29, 4:00:34]: But the one thing I don't wan it just keeps blowing my mind. We tryna improve everything on seventy five. [4:00:35, 4:00:43]: What about right here? You put an amphitheater, you don't even have a hotel for people to go to. You don't have a restaurant for them to go to. Why not improve this area? [4:00:44, 4:00:48]: You got all this parks, you got all this space here, but you're trying to put it all on seventy five. [4:00:49, 4:00:50]: Why? [4:00:50, 4:00:51]: You got six seventy five. [4:00:52, 4:00:53]: Did you forget about that? [4:00:53, 4:00:54]: Is there for you? [4:00:55, 4:00:56]: Why everything has to be over there? [4:00:57, 4:00:58]: Why? [4:00:58, 4:01:00]: The schools can't handle it. [4:01:00, 4:01:02]: We can't handle it. T I'm telling you, we can't. [4:01:03, 4:01:05]: I don't have kids in school, but the kids can handle it. [4:01:06, 4:01:09]: I try to volunteer, I try to work it's overcrowded. [4:01:10, 4:01:11]: When I first moved here [4:01:11, 4:01:14]: С твої кис на сіна клас, на немор. [4:01:15, 4:01:18]: Regardless of what you guys think of me or what you what you look at me. [4:01:18, 4:01:20]: You guys are here for the people. [4:01:20, 4:01:21]: Period. [4:01:22, 4:01:27]: If you're not here for the people, I know we do all these fancy things, Facebook, Instagram. That means nothing. [4:01:29, 4:01:31]: If you can't look me in the eye and tell me honestly, [4:01:31, 4:01:32]: This is what we're doing for you. [4:01:33, 4:01:34]: What's the point? [4:01:37, 4:01:57]: Thank you for your time. Um okay, Mr. Ryan and uh Sir you may want to come back to the podium and Mr. Gardner come on back up as well. Uh in reference to the bridge of Jodico, it's a mixed use development that's it is the most southern part of Stockbridge, and we have a lot of a lot of things that are going, a lot of restaurants and uh all also departments going there. [4:01:57, 4:02:17]: There, there'll be some single-family homes as well. Affordable housing is always an issue that we try to put within our uh within the structure in Stockbridge as well as Henry County and the downtown area. Uh, we have plans. Matter of fact, there have been several different restaurants open here recently, and we continue to look at build up the downtown area and may and expand it because of the amphitheater, which is phase one of the LC. [4:02:17, 4:02:33]: And phase two is is continuing to look at building up and we have plans for that. Building up the downtown area is coming. Takes time to do all that. And um and Mr. Alexander is on the downtown development, Adela's on downtown development agency. Is that right, sir? [4:02:33, 4:02:52]: Yes, sir. And I'd like I'd like to invite the gentleman to frozen smokes across the tracks, a brand new restaurant. Okay. I didn't know if there's anything else you want to mention at at time. Uh Miss Gan, you I w you have something. I wanna g to give these gentlemen some questions here that came up, but you have something right now or you gonna wait. Well I did I did have one one comment or two. Um [4:02:53, 4:02:54]: As a parent. [4:02:55, 4:03:15]: I've always made a concern and address, even though it's illegal for us to address the fact that the schools to me appear overcrowded. That's my opinion. I spoke to someone from the that represents the school, a staff member, and I say [4:03:15, 4:03:19]: Listen, I'm sorry. My apologies, you know. [4:03:20, 4:03:26]: you know, all these apartments are coming up and what are we gonna do? How are we gonna control that with the school? [4:03:26, 4:03:29]: And their response shocked me. [4:03:29, 4:03:32]: Their responses is they've studied and projected [4:03:33, 4:03:44]: this population increasing as well. So they're planning as well. I thought they were gonna say, no, you y'all need to slow down. Slow down from building. But they they didn't. [4:03:44, 4:03:49]: And I still disagree with that. I'm not necessarily saying I agree with what they said. [4:03:49, 4:03:57]: But what I'm saying to you is that there are different components and different entities and we all have to work together. [4:03:58, 4:03:59]: You know, it's [4:04:01, 4:04:03]: A double edged sword. You want [4:04:04, 4:04:10]: uh uh trader joe's but you don't want the population that was required to have that trader joe's. [4:04:10, 4:04:16]: You want these fine dining restaurants, but the population requires [4:04:16, 4:04:20]: That th those restaurants and those places are scoping out. [4:04:20, 4:04:26]: Require a specific amount of rooftops. Right. It is what it is. [4:04:26, 4:04:28]: And I think that [4:04:28, 4:04:30]: Іт бикомс а лак. [4:04:31, 4:04:32]: Uh [4:04:32, 4:04:35]: You know, uh I feel you. [4:04:35, 4:04:45]: I don't wanna be piled up on each other. I don't wanna be in New York, right? I wanna live uh in Henry County and there is a balance. But there's also [4:04:45, 4:05:05]: You want these nice things. You're tired of driving to the north side of town. If I hear it one more time, I'm tired of having to go to Buckhead to go eat at a nice restaurant. I'm tired of having to go, I can't have a nice hotel here. Why can't we have it here? Well the rooftops have to be here and facilities have to be here. [4:05:05, 4:05:18]: And we are planning. We have studies. We involve. We do everything we can to reach out to the community and say, hello, we're having this study. We're thinking about doing this. [4:05:19, 4:05:35]: We can only do so much. I mean, you put it in a newspaper, you post it on Facebook, you put it on some pages I've never even heard of, X, which is I guess used to be Twitter or whatever the case may be, and you pumping it out there, and then you had the same two or three people involved. [4:05:35, 4:05:37]: My suggestion is get involved. [4:05:37, 4:05:44]: Come to those studies, show what you really want, but understand that it comes with the price of [4:05:44, 4:05:53]: Specific rooftops. You're exactly right. A one-bedroom apartment meant for$1,800 is crazy to me. [4:05:53, 4:05:55]: It's absurd. It costs more than our mortgages. [4:05:56, 4:06:03]: Two bedrooms, twenty two hundred, three bedrooms, twenty five hundred. But re in reality, that's the market prices right now. [4:06:04, 4:06:10]: And the kids that are graduating from college are getting it while they sit at home in their pajamas and work. [4:06:11, 4:06:13]: Those are the studies that we're getting. [4:06:15, 4:06:23]: They get the new self-care and they also get these this type of life. And that's what they're looking at. Those are the trends. [4:06:23, 4:06:24]: And so [4:06:25, 4:06:29]: I ask that you bear with us on that. You know, it's a little give and take. [4:06:30, 4:06:39]: I there are certain things that I don't want in my specific district and community that I'm just going to stra st straight up fight against. [4:06:39, 4:06:50]: But I can't say, well, when you look at the majority of the communities, whether it's Gwinnett or Cobb or Jones Creek or wherever. [4:06:51, 4:06:57]: apartment units and rental units and different things now are being placed strategically on the interstates. [4:06:57, 4:06:58]: Off the interstates. [4:06:59, 4:07:04]: And the further you go out, the larger the landmass and lot sizes are. [4:07:04, 4:07:09]: But the price of'em is just as much as that large landmass. [4:07:10, 4:07:18]: And so it is a give and take, and it's gonna take community discussions to have it. We're not ignoring you. I'm not. [4:07:18, 4:07:20]: I care about my community. [4:07:20, 4:07:30]: I care about each and everything. Miss Fields, I heard exactly what you said about making sure that we have more meetings and have more community involvement. [4:07:31, 4:07:36]: And I wasn't gonna bring it up tonight, but I'm definitely gonna bring it up to staff. I can guarantee you that. [4:07:36, 4:07:37]: So I heard it. [4:07:38, 4:07:39]: And I believe in that. [4:07:40, 4:07:43]: And no, I don't want my kids in classrooms with thirty people. [4:07:43, 4:07:53]: But when I address it, I also hear, oh, we're planning for it. We know we're on it. Not y'all need to get together with the school systems. That's not what's being said. [4:07:53, 4:07:55]: They too have people studying. [4:07:55, 4:07:58]: The growth and the trends of what's to come. [4:07:58, 4:08:00]: And they're saying we got it. [4:08:01, 4:08:02]: So I'm gonna let them do their job. [4:08:03, 4:08:07]: And I'm gonna try to do mine and I'm gonna try to explain it to you the best I can. [4:08:07, 4:08:08]: But I want a trade of Joe's. [4:08:09, 4:08:10]: I'm tired of driving. [4:08:12, 4:08:15]: But I wanna also make sure that it's smart growth and quality growth. [4:08:17, 4:08:24]: All right. All right, gentlemen. So this pre application meeting, August eighteenth meeting, what what do we where can we solve this? What what's going on here? [4:08:25, 4:08:40]: Uh pre application meaning is a meeting that an applicant must have with staff is mandated before they can even submit a rezoning or any type of zoning application. It's a meeting and pre requ pre requirement for submitting a zoning application. [4:08:40, 4:08:43]: Okay. So did you need in in added? [4:08:43, 4:08:52]: Yeah, so uh Ryan was at the meeting on August 18th. Yeah, and so we covered, you know, the development proposal, the site plan, and [4:08:52, 4:09:12]: You know, our comment was we can come do it again, but we've already done it once. Can we count that as a uh as a pre-application meeting? And just so you know, there's nothing unique about that. We do that all the time. We we try and engage directly with cities and counties, staff early on. If you'd said in the very beginning, or we'd gotten the feeling, I guess, no one's gonna say, but we've gotten the feeling that this wasn't something Stockwords wanted. [4:09:12, 4:09:15]: And and so [4:09:15, 4:09:16]: You know [4:09:16, 4:09:25]: It just didn't make sense to have it again. We asked for uh basically you know whether we could count the August 18 meeting. Ryan was there, uh I believe there's some [4:09:25, 4:09:29]: Linda Gordon, I mean the the entire staff was there and we had [4:09:29, 4:09:34]: several conversations leading up to the filing of the application, you know, about [4:09:34, 4:09:46]: you know, this and that on on on on on um you know this proposed development. The whole point of a pre application meeting is that really for the staff to get some sense some s sense that something is coming. [4:09:47, 4:10:04]: Not necessarily all sense, but some sense something's coming. And more importantly, explain the process to the applicant, right? Here's how it works. You file an application, we gotta have it by this date. Here's the process. And all of that was covered. And frankly, you know, for someone like me who does this for a living, I I understand the process. So it would have been duplicative, but [4:10:05, 4:10:09]: There's nothing unusual about what we requested for. There's nothing weird going on here. It was all [4:10:10, 4:10:30]: I mean I uh i it's easy to cast stones, right? It really is. I mean uh that's not the way I do business, it's not the way I've had engaged with Stockbridge at all, it's not the way Stockbridge is engaged with me. Everything's been one hundred percent above board. The meeting on August eighteen had three members of staff and we asked that it count as a pre application meeting and they agreed. That's uh it's as simple as that. Okay. [4:10:30, 4:10:35]: You can is there anything that we need to discuss further? I wrote down twenty, twenty two September some type of [4:10:35, 4:10:55]: So I think what she said is there was a a meeting in person on August 18. And it was in September that we wrote an email saying, Hey, does w can that meeting count as a pre-application meeting? Okay. She's refer referencing an email. There wasn't a follow-up meeting. Okay. All right. Thank you. Um now in reference to Patrick Henry, now obviously Patrick Henry goes in and out of the county to parts of the city. [4:10:55, 4:11:15]: And I know they just repaid the county just repaid Patrick Henry. And so there in the future, sir. I'm sorry. The county and the city repay Patrick Henry. Okay, we're going to have to do that. Let's make sure we get that right. Okay. And understanding that place across from Georgia Power, uh where the new um senior resident. [4:11:15, 4:11:35]: retirement community, uh assisted living that's not in the city. So the county is putting up those street lights, not us. That was good. And they were doing that. Uh and I actually I called Mr. Gardner about that. And that that section is not actually in the city. So the county is actually doing that. Okay. [4:11:35, 4:11:55]: get to that but that's that's part of the product. Okay. That solves that in that aspect. And the question was made about what we're doing. What we're doing with this development and with the Patrick Henry Parkway master plan is to put a ten foot multi-use path along all of the section that's in the city. That's part of the master plan, right, Mr. Gardner? It is. [4:11:55, 4:12:15]: That master plan will do exactly what you said, which is it will cover Patrick Henry Parkway. It will be 10-foot path. On a 10-foot path, you can ride your bike on it. In the state of Georgia, you cannot ride a bike on a five-foot sidewalk, nobody over 13. So we make sure that we have the path wide enough. [4:12:15, 4:12:35]: enough eight to ten feet so that you can ride your bike on it and also potentially ride your golf cart on it. And certainly there's been talks about, as far as I'm concerned, is uh moving it around and requiring those ten foot pads so that we could use those uh at some point the vision would [4:12:35, 4:12:55]: Would be to be able to leave the country club with on your golf cart without getting into a car, use these paths and take them all the way to this new development or Jodeco Road. Certainly, that requires planning on our part. So certainly we're doing our part. We just need the county to stop approving five. [4:12:55, 4:13:01]: five foot sidewalks uh i in in the interim gap for us so that we can fill those in. [4:13:01, 4:13:09]: All right, thank you for that. The set the setback issue. The reference to setback from the uh setback, can you discuss that further? [4:13:09, 4:13:16]: Yeah. I yeah, I wouldn't follow on that one. I think she may have misunderstood what we were requested to do. We're not asking for any kind of setback variance. [4:13:16, 4:13:17]: Okay. [4:13:18, 4:13:34]: All right. I think Mr. Gardner to clarify is that when we you and I were talking, is that right now you have Patrick Henry Park where you have the what the East the East Side or the what is it? [4:13:35, 4:13:37]: The current side is the West is the [4:13:37, 4:13:41]: So it's the west side of of Patrick Henry. [4:13:41, 4:14:01]: Is complete. This is all on the west side. So the the east side is complete. That's your north-south lane that's currently now going back and so the east side is complete. On the side where their property is, there would be two additional lanes that would be placed on the west side over there on their particular property. [4:14:01, 4:14:11]: property. The the east side already exists, but where Patrick Henry Parkway is, it would be expanded where those street lights are, there would actually be the median. [4:14:12, 4:14:32]: Got eventually you would hope that the the key Right now that where they're putting the street lights now, if they did do it, that would be the media because on the other side of that that would be the other two lanes. Right. But hopefully as we build the parkway, same thing with the east rest. [4:14:33, 4:14:53]: Sorry. I'm sorry. Same thing with the East West Um East Lake Road, right? At some point it would have been cool to put because it's a parkway, to put lights down the median, right? Um the chairns on both sides of the road. So hopefully when we do this roadway, that'll be something that we incorporate. So those lights on those poles will go away and you'll have better [4:14:53, 4:14:56]: Better lighting down that parkway because it'll be along the center medium. [4:14:57, 4:14:59]: With with landscaping. [4:14:59, 4:15:17]: Absolutely. And that's the one thing we need to explain as well. This is part of the parkway corridor, right, Mr. Anderson? So there is upgraded landscaping requirements and beautification and all of that already incorporated into this into the comprehensive plan. Yeah, as required by the PMU, yes. [4:15:18, 4:15:27]: Out of curiosity, do we have any responsibility for these speed limit signs along the area? Even though I even though the the Pack or Henry goes in and out of from county to city? [4:15:29, 4:15:41]: can't remember exactly which one. I know they probably took it down when they were doing the paving. Right. Um, but I'll make sure we make note to contact those guys to put it back up. Okay. [4:15:42, 4:15:55]: Alrighty. Council, you have any other questions for these gentlemen? Any in reference at all? We good? All right. Uh yes m yes ma'am. Uh just for point of clarification on the transportation improvement. [4:15:56, 4:16:01]: Um it was stated that either the developer would do it or SPLOSS, was that decided? [4:16:03, 4:16:06]: Trying you talking about tr transfer improvement for Patrick Henry? Yeah. The widening? [4:16:07, 4:16:08]: It'll be a combination of both. [4:16:09, 4:16:11]: Is that part of the condition? [4:16:11, 4:16:18]: Right, Mr. Gardner. The widening w is a combination agreement between they leave the right of way and [4:16:18, 4:16:19]: As well. [4:16:23, 4:16:26]: This is the second one. [4:16:26, 4:16:46]: The right of way ex already exists. I think the the discussion we've been having with the folks to the south of us that we're gonna have with developers is gonna be the county's rule is that they make the developer pay for the improvements on their side, right? So part of what we looked at was how do we do this in a cooperative way, where the city, the county, [4:16:46, 4:16:57]: and the developers along the corridor would pay for Patrick Henry improvements. So it's not all on the city, it's not all on the county. It's a shared cost between everybody everyone along the corridor. [4:16:59, 4:17:00]: Okay. [4:17:01, 4:17:05]: Um okay [4:17:06, 4:17:09]: So looking at the layout of this site. [4:17:10, 4:17:12]: What is behind it? [4:17:13, 4:17:14]: Over here to the west. [4:17:15, 4:17:22]: Yeah, that's t uh the highway. High seventy five. Actually let me see if I can I've got a I've got a city map here, it might show it better. [4:17:27, 4:17:37]: I mean, is there residentials somewhere? Nope. No, there's nothing. Okay. There's it's us on the highway basically. Okay. The closest residential is Eagles Line and Country Club. [4:17:38, 4:17:41]: The closest residential is Eagles Land and Country Club. [4:17:42, 4:17:48]: Okay, gotcha. I was gonna ask about a stub out or interconnectivity, but is that not [4:17:48, 4:17:50]: It's not necessary. [4:17:50, 4:17:51]: Not here, no ma'am. [4:17:52, 4:18:06]: Because we're already putting the they're already putting the path along Patrick Henry, so it'll connect to where we're doing the master plan for the property south of us. It'll connect there. Okay but they'll be interparcel for for us on our on what we're doing as part of that plan. Yes. Thank you. You're welcome. [4:18:08, 4:18:28]: All right, Council, if you don't have any other questions, then uh we'll go through this process here. Annexation case AX two three uh excuse me two zero two three-zero six, council district five. Council consideration or request of annexation of certain property and on and near Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for the construction. [4:18:28, 4:18:48]: A mixed use development consisting of multifamily residential and retail commercial uses on the portion of the property. The applicant is Waypoint Residential, CO Dennis J. Webb Jr., Smith Gramble, and Russell LLP. The property contains four parcels in the land lot 46 of District 6. [4:18:48, 4:19:08]: Listed below with 20.91 uh total acres of unincorporated county area. Parcel number 052-01 uh two five zero two seven contains eleven point four two eight acres. Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two eight contains four point. [4:19:08, 4:19:28]: Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two one to be annexed but not included within a proposed development contains one point one six four acres. I need a motion to approve or deny this, please. So moved. Okay. Is to approve and second. I second. [4:19:28, 4:19:30]: Ms. Gasek, in all favor, please indicate. [4:19:31, 4:19:51]: All right, uh Miss Barber, you approve? Okay, so I've got uh four votes and uh four votes right now at this point. Okay, comprehensive plan amendment, CP 2023-07, uh Council District 5, Council consideration to request a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land. [4:19:51, 4:20:11]: Use designation of medium density mixed use to certain property on and near Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for construction of a mixed use development consisting of multifamily residential and retail commercial uses. The applicant is Waypoint Residential CO Dennis J. Webb Jr., Smith Gramble and Russell LLP. The property contains [4:20:11, 4:20:20]: Three parcels and landlock 46 of district six as listed below with 20.91 total acres in the unincorporated Henry County. [4:20:21, 4:20:41]: Parcel number 052 dash zero one zero two zero uh excuse me. Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two four contains four point zero three five acres. Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two seven contains eleven point four two acres. [4:20:41, 4:21:01]: two acres parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two eight contains four point two seven nine acres. Okay. I need a motion to approve this please. So moved. Is there a second miss m Miss Gantt you second that? All in favor please indicate. Okay. [4:21:01, 4:21:21]: uh vote there. The rezoning case RZ two zero three uh two zero two three dash zero eight once again located council district five. Council consideration of the request for rezoning to assign the zoning districts of PUD Plan Unit Development or PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District to a certain property on Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for construction [4:21:21, 4:21:41]: Of mixed-use developments consisting of multifamily residential and retail commercial usage. The applicant is Waypoint Residential, CEO Dennis J. Webb Jr. of Smith, Cramble and Russell LLP. The property contains three parcels of landlot 46 of District 6 as listed below with 20.91 total acres within unincorporated. [4:21:41, 4:22:01]: Henry County. Parcel number 052-0102-5024 contains 4.05 acres. Parcel 052-0102-5027 contains eleven point four two acres. Parcel number 052-0102-5028 contains 4.279. [4:22:00, 4:22:05]: acres and so I need a motion to approve this as well. [4:22:06, 4:22:11]: Okay, right. Is this where the conditions would be appropriate? Read the existing conditions and [4:22:12, 4:22:14]: To the record. Okay. All right. [4:22:18, 4:22:20]: All right, uh twenty three or [4:22:31, 4:22:44]: Okay, the the density rate sh the first condition, the density rate shall be kept at a at sixteen point four dwelling units per acre or a maximum three hundred and twenty four units for the entire proposed mixed use development. [4:22:44, 4:23:04]: The project will be in conformance with the City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code and all other city codes regarding site development standards and other regulations that are found. The proposed mixed use development shall be constructed according to a design which is similar to the one that is shown on the applicant's submitted site plan titled Waypoint Residential, which was prepared for the city. [4:23:04, 4:23:12]: By Kimley Horns and associates on September 28, 2023. A 25 foot buffer shall be installed in the north. [4:23:20, 4:23:22]: Uh no I was sleeping. [4:23:23, 4:23:23]: Okay. [4:23:24, 4:23:25]: Who's that? [4:23:25, 4:23:27]: Come on, have a s have a sleep. [4:23:31, 4:23:33]: Oh see, okay. Close it up. [4:23:34, 4:23:35]: No, they have a seat, please. [4:23:39, 4:23:41]: Yeah, no. Which one? Twenty three oh eight. [4:23:41, 4:23:42]: That's what [4:23:45, 4:23:50]: Okay, yeah. I'm I'm sorry, I I wrote the one that before it was edited. [4:23:51, 4:23:52]: So I [4:23:54, 4:24:05]: Uh okay, um the deceler condition number six, the deceleration lanes as shown in the site plans shall be provided. The developer shall take the appropriate steps to prov preserve and protect the cemetery. [4:24:06, 4:24:26]: The developers shall establish a maintenance of all common areas in the development. A fence shall be installed adjacent to the dog park and on Georgia Powers Easement on the south side of the property. All non-commercial parking facilities shall be screened from the view of Patrick Henry Parkway by the use and maintenance of tall dense landscaping. [4:24:26, 4:24:27]: The proposed development [4:24:29, 4:24:44]: shall provide access to parcel easement access to parcel zero five two dash zero one oh two five oh two one. No structure shall be built within the file zone of any inst interstate billboard which is located or may be located on parcel. [4:24:45, 4:24:49]: Zero five two dash zero one o two five oh two one. [4:24:50, 4:24:57]: [15897.8, 15899.0]: So those are the conditions. [4:25:00, 4:25:05]: Okay, well you know the existing condition of the path. I didn't hear that it [4:25:06, 4:25:21]: Oh, that that would be that's an added um that's a that would be an added condition plus is already conditioned on the site plan and it's shown on the site plan. I just wanna make sure that it's in there so that's assured that that is actually the case. Okay, we'll add that. All right. [4:25:25, 4:25:28]: Clarif clarify w what you just said, please. [4:25:35, 4:25:44]: There is a ten foot bluff involved in this on fr front part. Yeah, on the frontage of um Patrick Henry Boulevard. [4:25:49, 4:25:59]: Yes, the v the fountains are to be beautiful uh beautification. Uh there're not to there'll be uh beautification amenities with fountains uh in the water features. [4:26:06, 4:26:07]: Yes. [4:26:10, 4:26:27]: And and the the one more condition, any future signalized intersections require uh the black mass post arm signals signage, uh if signals are to be installed if that uh deemed in at some future point. [4:26:28, 4:26:33]: Is that agreeable by you, sir? Is that agreeable with you gentlemen? [4:26:34, 4:26:36]: Signals and signage. [4:26:37, 4:26:38]: Okay. [4:26:46, 4:26:56]: Anything else, Ryan, you need to add on the side of the side of the side. Sorry, and then the uh as long as well as uh when the signals are added, there will be stamped paver crosswalks. [4:27:00, 4:27:04]: Once again, you gentlemen good with that as well? Okay. [4:27:07, 4:27:09]: Ms. Halder, you have all that? [4:27:09, 4:27:13]: M Ryan, you ha you got all that as well? Yes, sir. We have it, yes. Mm-hmm. [4:27:13, 4:27:22]: So I already read uh I already read through that uh Okay, and then one more Ms. Gann is always reminded the flop cameras at the entrances, yeah. [4:27:22, 4:27:23]: Okay. [4:27:26, 4:27:27]: Flock cameras as well. [4:27:28, 4:27:32]: Once again, gentlemen, you you you you good with that? [4:27:33, 4:27:38]: All right. So move. All right. So move. Is there a second to the motion? [4:27:39, 4:27:41]: A second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [4:27:42, 4:28:02]: Namage decision. Thank you very much. Okay, so now there's a learnment lesson here. So we have another uh public hearing in reference to the variance. But let me just read the variance case first before we open the public hearing. Variance case VR 2022-04, Council District 5. Council consideration of a request of three variants. [4:28:02, 4:28:22]: Variances on a certain property of Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for the construction of a mixed-use development consisting of multifamily residential and rental commercial uses. The applicant has requested three variances of the property. One, a variance to allow residential uses of the first floor on the first floor of the building, two, a variance to eliminate the requirement. [4:28:22, 4:28:42]: Requirement the vehicle connection between adjoining properties and three variants to allow parking in front of the building. The applicant is Wary Point Residential, CO Dennis J. Webb Jr. of Smith, Gramble and Russell LLP. The property contains three parcels, land lot, forty-six of district six and listed below twenty. [4:28:42, 4:29:02]: twenty point two nine total acres in an unincorporated Henry County. Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two four contains four point zero three five acres. Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two seven contains eleven point four two acres. Parcel number zero five two dash zero [4:29:02, 4:29:10]: Mr. Ryan, please. Uh Mr Anderson has to say, please. [4:29:12, 4:29:32]: My file is corrupt for some reason. But however, these are basically administrative variances for exemptions from the Parkway mixed use overlay district that uh staff doesn't have the authority to approve that we had to bring before council. Um the first uh variance to allow uh residential uses on the first floor of the building. Because he would have s because the applicant would have seven [4:29:32, 4:29:35]: Separate um retail. [4:29:36, 4:29:56]: As a part of the development, um staff feel that this would be an o oversaturation of um of retail uses by requiring uh requiring um retail on all first floors of the buildings of the apartments. So we we'll agree with them just having one centralized area of uh retail, so it won't be an oversaturation. [4:29:56, 4:30:16]: Uh a variance to eliminate the requirement for a vehicle connection between a jo a jo uh adjoining building. Staff feels like the that this requirement uh is acceptable and it won't it wouldn't cause any development issues. And a variance to allow parking in the front of the building. Uh this is on one building on the on the side that's really is a [4:30:16, 4:30:31]: question as to whether or not it's even actually in the front. But just to be safe, um we decided to bring it to the uh council anyway. It's really on the side and all of all the other buildings will have parking in the rear. Uh I'm trying to get my file open so I can show you guys. [4:30:36, 4:30:43]: Why Ryan is doing that to counsel any specific questions he may be able to ask answer simultaneously if you have any in reference to Verences? [4:30:44, 4:30:53]: This product will be similar to what we see uh at Jodico with the stairwells and everything concealed in the building and such. [4:30:55, 4:31:06]: Yes, yes, sir. Everything will be concealed. I um I don't know, my bearings p um uh staff report won't open. I was trying to show you guys the site plan. Um [4:31:12, 4:31:16]: So it's this building right here where the um what requested variance would be. [4:31:19, 4:31:25]: Oh, that's the wrong staff report. I'm sorry. I can't pull it up. Hold on. Um [4:31:26, 4:31:29]: Yeah, go on. Yeah. [4:31:32, 4:31:32]: There you go. [4:31:34, 4:31:36]: That's it right here. Yep. [4:31:38, 4:31:40]: So let me reorientate this. [4:31:51, 4:31:54]: So this is the site plan right here. [4:31:54, 4:31:55]: Mm-hmm. [4:32:05, 4:32:10]: All right, so um council any questions further for Mr. Anderson at all? Anybody? [4:32:11, 4:32:12]: No. [4:32:16, 4:32:23]: Okay, if there are no questions thus far uh Sir you have anything additional you need to add? I'm sorry. [4:32:25, 4:32:32]: You know, it's it's the screen. Um, is this mine? No, that's mine. What presentation was it? [4:32:34, 4:32:35]: Pull up your question. [4:32:36, 4:32:37]: I think this is mine. [4:32:38, 4:32:44]: It was coming in and out when I was looking at it. It it would it got blurry, then it would get sharper. Let's see if it [4:32:47, 4:32:55]: Well I sorry, I dinweb eleven oh five West Species Street, Atlanta, Georgia, three oh three oh nine here on the half of Waypoint Residential. I I when I w there we go. [4:32:56, 4:33:16]: When I was speaking earlier, I noticed that it was blurry and it would clear itself. Let me just briefly touch on these uh uh three variances. Number one, the overlay requires ground floor commercial in every residential building, okay? Tech by code. As you can see, we've got four fronting Patrick Henry, excuse me, five. Um and uh [4:33:18, 4:33:19]: There's just not [4:33:20, 4:33:40]: Support for that much uh commercial out here, is I think Mr. Anderson was trying to say. So what we've done is centralize it here in building six. Again, it'll be fourteen thousand square feet of non-residential space behind shopfront glass. It's gonna look like true commercial. And while we're not meeting the black letter of the code, I think we meet the spirit. That's that was our intent. Uh number two, interpartial access. [4:33:40, 4:33:58]: have it in a way because we have committed to a 10-foot multi-use path that'll run along the entire frontage of Patrick Henry. So that is interparsel access of a s of uh of a type. But the overlay also requires vehicular interparcel access. And as you can see, that doesn't work on this site because of the pot topography. We've got stormwater ponds on the on both sides. [4:33:59, 4:34:16]: Uh and we also have a Georgia Power easement here on the East. So we have a hardship. Staff has recognized it. Again, we've tried to to counter that by focusing on uh you know sort of the true multimodal access on the front of the property. The last one is uh uh a variance uh to allow parking in front of the building. So th this is [4:34:17, 4:34:24]: We've never been clear on whether we needed this. Again, you see the buildings that front Patrick Henry here. You see these little rectangles that also front. Those are actually garages and they're [4:34:25, 4:34:28]: Four sided so there's solid structures that will hide the parking behind it. [4:34:29, 4:34:35]: Staff says we don't actually need this variance anymore because we've agreed in the zoning conditions, as you just saw, to heavily plant. [4:34:35, 4:34:40]: The front edge along Patrick Henry to hide the building. So because of that, they say we don't need the variance, but we're [4:34:40, 4:34:47]: No one's really clear, you know, until this gets built. So we left it in there just out of abundance of caution. But I we we've covered the view shed. [4:34:47, 4:34:58]: From Patrick Henry Thurley with the garages, the landscaping, the buildings brought to the streets. So the parking is going to be f pretty invisible. So those are the th the three variants we variances we've requested. [4:34:59, 4:35:00]: Okay. [4:35:00, 4:35:16]: Okay, uh council any questions thus far? No? All right, this public hearing, so I'll open this up. Any f uh uh comments four for this particular project, comments four, my very left part, my okay. Any public comments four in the middle. [4:35:17, 4:35:24]: My very right. Seeing none. Any comments against negative comments? Anything against a particular project? On my far left. [4:35:25, 4:35:26]: In the middle. [4:35:27, 4:35:35]: Okay for right. Seeing none I will close the public hearing and um ask uh the council [4:35:36, 4:35:40]: Uh for approval of this variance. So moved. Is there a second? [4:35:41, 4:35:41]: I second. [4:35:42, 4:36:00]: From Miss uh from Mr. Alexander and Ms. Gann, all favor, please indicate. All right. Mr. Webb, congratulations, sir. All right. New business. Council consideration to reclassify a crime scene investigator position and to approve a job description for property and evidence custodian. [4:36:01, 4:36:02]: Chief Tremor, please. [4:36:05, 4:36:06]: Sorry, Chief. [4:36:11, 4:36:12]: Yeah. [4:36:13, 4:36:14]: Yeah. [4:36:16, 4:36:18]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening. [4:36:20, 4:36:26]: Uh the police department's requesting to reclassify two positions. The first position is a crime scene investigator position. [4:36:27, 4:36:47]: And create a job description for a property and evidence custodian. As the council knows, the police department's moving towards state uh certification and national accreditation. One of the uh key components of that is making sure that we have good checks and balances in our property and evidence uh facility. Uh, we previously had a crime scene investigator who also had property and evidence. [4:36:46, 4:36:50]: Yeah. [4:36:50, 4:37:00]: We've since lost that individual and we need somebody who has the specialized experience to oversee that. So we're proposing reclassifying a crime scene investigator position within the same pay grade. [4:37:00, 4:37:09]: And um advertising for a property and evidence custodian to see us towards our accreditation efforts. There'll be no financial impact, as this will be a reclassification to a current position. [4:37:10, 4:37:11]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [4:37:11, 4:37:17]: I move that council approve a crime scene investigator position to approve a job prescription for property evidence custodian. [4:37:18, 4:37:38]: Okay, okay, Mr. Berry, second that from Miss Gantton, Miss Berry. All in favor, please indicate. Oh I'm sorry. You have a c okay, all in favor, please indicate. Okay, so you name this decision. Thank you very much. Okay, council consideration to reclassify police sergeant position and approve the job description of a crime scene investigation supervisor. Mr. [4:37:38, 4:37:54]: Chief Tremor, please. Yes, much much like this. Um we have received over half a million dollars in uh grant funding to implement state of the art uh crime scene investigation technologies within our police crime lab and uh [4:37:55, 4:38:15]: We need someone who has the skills and expertise to be able to move the crime lab in the direction that we're trying to take it as a department. Uh we currently have a police sergeant over our crime scene investigation unit, and we would like to uh advertise for someone who has the specialized skills uh [4:38:15, 4:38:32]: Um managing a crime lab and also enhance forensics uh capabilities to move this endeavor forward. So we propose reclassifying a police sergeant's position and um implementing a new position for a crime scene investigation supervisor to help us. [4:38:32, 4:38:40]: Move that effort forward. Right. Again, this will be within the same pay grade. There'll be no financial impact. This is not a new position. It's a reclassification. [4:38:40, 4:38:51]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. I move that we approve um to reclassify pol uh police sergeant position and approve a job description for a crime scene investigation service supervisor. [4:38:52, 4:38:53]: Sir Second. [4:38:53, 4:38:55]: Ms. Barber, you second that? [4:38:57, 4:39:00]: Oh, I'm sorry. Um Mr. Berry? [4:39:00, 4:39:03]: Okay, from Miss Gantt to Miss Berry. All favor please indicate. [4:39:04, 4:39:05]: All right. [4:39:05, 4:39:09]: Sometimes gentlemen I have a tendency not to look to my right. Okay. [4:39:10, 4:39:10]: Yeah. [4:39:11, 4:39:31]: Okay, great. Now council consideration approved the purchase of four Ford uh Maverick XL trucks not to exceed one hundred and seventeen thousand two hundred dollars. Funding source, police department operating budget. Chief Tramor, please. Uh yes, Mayor and Council, as you are aware, uh you all have authorized four new positions uh for this fiscal year for [4:39:31, 4:39:41]: For public safety officers, these vehicles will be to equip those public safety officers. It's within our current operating budget. Currently, we have a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in our operating budget. [4:39:41, 4:40:01]: For police vehicles. Uh, this purchase is under that amount,$117,200. As it relates to procurement, this will be an emergency uh procurement exception. Um these vehicles currently have limited availability and we've only been able to source one dealer who has these vehicles on the lot due to the um necessity of having these vehicles immediately. [4:40:01, 4:40:05]: Uh, we're limited in terms of who we're able to procure the vehicles from. [4:40:05, 4:40:17]: And currently Brandon Automotive has four of the vehicles that we're searching for on the lot at a purchase price, I believe it's twenty nine thousand three hundred dollars per vehicle. So at four vehicles a hundred and seventeen thousand two hundred dollars. [4:40:18, 4:40:19]: Yeah, thank you, Chief. [4:40:19, 4:40:21]: Council, I need a motion for approval, please. [4:40:23, 4:40:24]: Or less there are any questions. [4:40:24, 4:40:40]: I have a question. Go right, please. Um the hundred and twenty five thousand is budgeted for n vehicles. Is it for the purchase of vehicles or for the maintenance and purchase of the vehicles? That specific uh budget item is for the purchase of vehicles. Okay. And we approved it for this year. Yes. [4:40:41, 4:40:47]: And what's the difference between the Fort Maverick XL trucks and the trucks that we have now? [4:40:48, 4:40:53]: Uh, they're less expensive. Um, this would be a compact pickup truck. [4:40:54, 4:41:02]: And for the work that the public safety officer would be performing, it's a sufficient vehicle. If we went with a full size vehicle, the cost would be more expensive. Full size pickup truck. [4:41:02, 4:41:03]: Okay. [4:41:03, 4:41:13]: And th and that's to fulfill the four positions that we have but do we have those positions filled already or no. They were just approved this year, so we're in the process of recruiting for those positions now. [4:41:14, 4:41:14]: Okay. [4:41:16, 4:41:18]: Okay. And do we have [4:41:20, 4:41:35]: The amount of officers that we already have accounted for? Are we missing officers? Is what I'm saying? Like a do we have to do that? Um we we have [4:41:36, 4:41:40]: I wanna say four vacancies, um sworn vacancies at the moment. [4:41:41, 4:42:01]: that uh we're currently seeking to fill. We have people in various different stages of the hiring process. Um but as you're aware, people come, people go, and then it takes us a little bit of time to get those positions filled once somebody's left. So um we're actively working towards filling those positions. It's hopeful that we'll have those filled uh insurance [4:42:01, 4:42:01]: Short order. [4:42:04, 4:42:09]: Any other questions for the council for the chief? If not, I need a motion to approve. [4:42:09, 4:42:15]: May uh I I make a motion to approve uh the purchase of the Ford Maverick Excel. [4:42:15, 4:42:20]: Sir. Okay. Is there any okay, all in favor please indicate? [4:42:21, 4:42:23]: Yeah, it's decision. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. [4:42:24, 4:42:25]: Congratulations to you. [4:42:27, 4:42:27]: That was good. [4:42:29, 4:42:49]: Upcoming meetings and announcements, council meetings will be held in Council City Council Chambers. Meeting dates and location times are subject to change, or contact the city hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website of www.stopbridgega.org. The Citywide Development Authority meetings second Tuesday of each month. [4:42:49, 4:43:09]: month at six PM City Hall Levi meeting room at nine January. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday. Yes, sir. I'm sorry, I hate to interrupt your uh comments, but there's a note that we I I'd like to do something'cause I I don't uh I didn't feel good about earlier when uh the Mayor Pro Tem vote went down. [4:43:09, 4:43:29]: I certainly would like for us to revote that so it could be unanimous and give uh the proper consent. Because I want to going forward, I want it to be uh unanimous. So I'd like an opportunity to revote that so that it is unanimous. Well w w are you sure it's gonna be unanimous though. Yes. [4:43:29, 4:43:31]: You have to amend the agenda. [4:43:31, 4:43:43]: We c we could re vote and then it would be five to zero. I think that's the appropriate thing to do. The appropriate thing to do. It ain't gonna take but two seconds in order to do it, in order for us to re vote it. [4:43:44, 4:43:53]: All right, so and your thought, uh Miss Gannis that you have to re we amend the agenda to take a re vote on this, I would imagine. That's what you're indicating. Uh our attorneys, is that the proper way to do this? [4:43:56, 4:44:10]: Okay. Well then uh if that is the case, I just need uh I guess uh uh d to amend the agenda and to to have a revote on this. And go ahead, Ms. Alzheimer's since you brought up. [4:44:10, 4:44:14]: The mayor pro team position and first vote would need to be rescinded. [4:44:17, 4:44:27]: Can we do this at the next meeting? Let's just go ahead and do it now because I feel bad that I did not I wan we just wanna I want it to be unanimous. I don't wanna go ever have this not be unanimous again. [4:44:28, 4:44:29]: Okay. [4:44:30, 4:44:32]: Okay, proper po proper poke of [4:44:33, 4:44:53]: Proper protocols what to rescind the the res what's the proper protocol attorney? I need your assistance. So it would have to be the recent rescind rescinding vote would have to be from a person who vote voted in the affirmative. So Mr. Berry, you would have to vote. No, actually the the prevailing party, I'm sorry to interrupt you. Uh okay, go ahead. [4:44:53, 4:44:56]: would need to bring up a request to re vote. That's what I'm saying. [4:44:57, 4:45:00]: And then amend the agenda to vote again. [4:45:01, 4:45:15]: All right. So basically you would make the motion to rescind and then we would we would ch we would re vote to rescind and then we would vote again immediately to make you the mayor pro tem five to zero. [4:45:15, 4:45:15]: Mm. [4:45:18, 4:45:23]: What she said. I make the motion to receive and the other details that the attorney has previously. [4:45:24, 4:45:30]: Okay, if you made a motion to rescend, Mr. Berry, is there a second to that motion? Second. Mr. Alzheimer's second that all in favor, please indicate. [4:45:31, 4:45:37]: I got four votes. You okay, five votes. Now it's decision. Now I need to know the motion again to nominate it. [4:45:38, 4:45:50]: I make the motion to no nominate Carl Berry as our uh Carl Berry as our mayor pro tem for twenty twenty four. Is there a second? You second that, Miss Barber, second that okay, all in favor, please indicate. [4:45:51, 4:46:07]: Okay, so you name this decision. Okay. Thank you. Congratulations. Second mayor got another motion to make. Uh uh that's Mr. Bear is gonna have to make that too. Huh? No, you're right. You're right. No, we we we didn't vote. You're right. We never voted. Right. What's that? I wanna make a motion to [4:46:08, 4:46:16]: I'm gonna make a motion to amend the agenda so that we can make the rotation the official policy for the city. [4:46:17, 4:46:18]: I say. [4:46:19, 4:46:25]: All right. Well the motion's been made in a second, so and so uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:46:26, 4:46:27]: Okay. [4:46:27, 4:46:32]: Well one second. All okay, I got three votes for. All right. [4:46:33, 4:46:38]: Yes. Yes. We're a min amending agenda, yes. [4:46:38, 4:46:46]: It's not. Okay, so we're meant we're we're we're have a motion to amend the agenda. [4:46:48, 4:46:52]: To add in would mend it say your statement again, please. Make sure I understand it right. [4:46:52, 4:47:00]: The amend the agenda so that we can add the rotation pol as the official policy for this city for the Mayor Pro Tem position. [4:47:01, 4:47:02]: Okay. [4:47:03, 4:47:05]: Okay I second that and we voted. [4:47:06, 4:47:11]: Okay, hold on a second. So motion was made and seconded. All right. Uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:47:14, 4:47:16]: Yes, to amend the agenda. Okay. All polls? [4:47:17, 4:47:37]: Okay, so it's four z four uh one opposed. I'm making the motion now to make the rotation, the official policy. Mr. Berry sent an email earlier today with the prescribed um following. It had uh for twenty twenty-four, he will be the mayor pro tem in twenty twenty-five. [4:47:37, 4:47:50]: Ms. Gantt would be the mayor pro tem in 2026. I would be the mayor pro tem in 2027. Councilman Thomas would be the mayor pro tem in 2028. [4:47:50, 4:47:53]: Mayor Pro Councilwoman Barber would be the mayor pro team. [4:47:54, 4:47:54]: I second. [4:47:55, 4:48:12]: Okay, most have been made in a second. Now for discussion for discussion purposes. Now what one second please? I I got I understand what you're gonna do here. So I would imagine that the charter doesn't uh d identify that this right now. So to do that it charter doesn't say apologies. [4:48:12, 4:48:23]: Oh you got you got this copy this right? Um we had a meeting and it was you asked the same question back in twenty twenty one and attorney Williams confirmed that there's no rule that prohibits this action. [4:48:23, 4:48:43]: Okay. And here it is right here if you would like to see it. Well okay. So discussion. Yes, so I'll just what what it is, I wanted to ask our current attorney w you know, Ms. Gandis said there's this happened earlier, but yes, on January eleventh, twenty twenty one at six o'clock PM an item number in the minutes, it actually states it in [4:48:43, 4:48:44]: Yeah. [4:48:45, 4:49:05]: Okay, so I just wanna get some clarification. You pulled it up, but I wanna do the read in or somehow uh make sure that we're legal and proper and even time to attempt to do this in this process. Now uh so discussion. Well, so I just wanted this you'll you'll get to it out so we can do the miracle. [4:49:05, 4:49:25]: So I I wanted to make sure that I don't like people who are manipulative. And that's exactly what you all adopted. So future council [4:49:25, 4:49:27]: They can change it if they want to. [4:49:28, 4:49:29]: Okay. Exactly. [4:49:29, 4:49:30]: All right. [4:49:30, 4:49:36]: Question. Well one stand by standby. Mr. Thomas Guay, please. [4:49:36, 4:49:46]: There's nothing in the c the charter or the code right now that says how the pr mayor it just says that the mayor pro tem is elect or means selected. Sh appointed. Appointed. [4:49:47, 4:49:51]: But you can change that by resolution if you want to make it more specific. [4:49:52, 4:49:59]: And say that it's by rotation, whatever method you wanna choose to do that, you can up you can do that. [4:50:00, 4:50:11]: And express it through the will of counsel however you want that to go down. I'm not in favor. I second. What what hold on a second? And mayor, we're still in the discussion phase, please. Mr. Thomas Quay, please. [4:50:12, 4:50:16]: Well I I I wanted the the the question as far as the the charter. [4:50:19, 4:50:23]: And I would recommend this be discussed in executive session, but but how do you [4:50:25, 4:50:31]: I guess my question is when you go against the charter, when you change the language in the charter. [4:50:31, 4:50:38]: Um is that is that is a resolution or is that an ordinance? You won't be changing the language of the charter. You'll be changing [4:50:39, 4:50:58]: The resolution as it relates to the mayor Pro Tem. But the charter says the council shall appoint. And we still it says nothing about rotation and correct. You're changing you're not changing the appointment, you're changing exactly how it happens by rotation, by alphabetical order, however you wanna do it. [4:50:59, 4:51:05]: I I I just think this need a little bit more discussion. Mayor, may I discuss this real quick? Okay. Mr. Thomas, are you done, sir? [4:51:06, 4:51:13]: I I I guess so'cause it it's it's it's time to Okay. Okay, hold a second. Hold a second. It goes to Miss Barber next. Miss Barber. [4:51:14, 4:51:14]: Mm. [4:51:14, 4:51:18]: So I don't support the rotation. [4:51:18, 4:51:38]: This is not about, you know, us all having a title every year. Absolutely not. There are other factors to consider when it comes to Mayor Pro Tem. Not only that, in two years we're gonna have an election. They're putting names on who's gonna be next in the next. [4:51:38, 4:51:45]: Next year. You cannot do that. It makes absolutely no sense to have the mayor pro tem. [4:51:45, 4:51:46]: Be rotated. [4:51:47, 4:51:51]: Based on names and whoever is elected. Well, instead of names you could do it by district. [4:51:51, 4:51:53]: I'm sorry, instead of name. [4:51:53, 4:51:56]: You could do it by district if you're you want to avoid [4:51:56, 4:52:07]: Well I I support um what Councilwoman Gantt said back in twenty twenty one when she was not in support of rotating the Mayor Pro Tem. [4:52:08, 4:52:15]: It wasn't necessary. It's still not necessary. It's not necessary for us to rotate the Mare Pro Tem. [4:52:15, 4:52:16]: It's not. [4:52:17, 4:52:23]: The only reason why we did it that particular time in twenty twenty one is because at that time. [4:52:24, 4:52:26]: Councilman Alexander had been on council. [4:52:26, 4:52:30]: for six years and he had not been Mayor Pro Tem. [4:52:32, 4:52:34]: But he's had his turn now. [4:52:35, 4:52:39]: This seems very, very um elementary. [4:52:40, 4:52:50]: I won't support rotating this. It's not necessary. Um and Mayor Ford, once we're done with this discussion, I have about um [4:52:51, 4:53:01]: I have four motions that I'm going to amend the agenda. We'll move forward with the vote. I'm calling for the vote, Mayor. Okay, hold hold a second. Don't talk I'm not done talking. Don't talk over me. [4:53:02, 4:53:05]: We're not gonna start off the year that way. [4:53:05, 4:53:08]: I've been respectful. I expect you to do the same. [4:53:09, 4:53:11]: So once we're done with this. [4:53:11, 4:53:14]: My other motions that I sent to the council [4:53:14, 4:53:22]: And I said I wanted to amend the agenda. Councilwoman Gantt said, Oh, we all decided that we weren't going to amend the agenda. [4:53:22, 4:53:28]: But this last minute effort to wanna pass a vote to rotate a mayor pro tem. [4:53:30, 4:53:45]: Yeah. I don't like those kinds of politrics. Are we gonna do it? Start off right. Not this slick stuff. Call for the vote. Stand by. Okay. So we can go home what we go. [4:53:45, 4:54:00]: But we're gonna scan USM anyway. Hold up folks. Hold up. Mayor, it it was it kinda embarrassing earlier today that we had to go through this. I don't recall I'm not necessarily certain if I actually stated [4:54:01, 4:54:21]: that I was against the rotation. But what e either way, I'm I'm looking here in the minutes of the meeting on on January 11th, 2021, Mayor, you asked that same question on agenda item, business item number four. And it says appointment of Mayor Pro Tem and create a policy for rotation. [4:54:21, 4:54:41]: Councilman Alexander noted each member of the council had served in the capacity of mayor pro tem with the mayor serving twice, and the exception being Councilwoman Barber and himself, and motioned to appoint Councilman Elton Alexander to serve as mayor pro tem for the year of 2015. [4:54:41, 4:54:49]: 2021, and to create a policy to re rotate the position, allowing all members to serve. [4:54:49, 4:55:09]: Mayor Ford asked for a legal opinion if a member could self-appoint, if a member could and attorney Williams confirmed there is no rule that prohibits this action. We then began to start rotating appointments. Mayor, that's why you came to me and said it's your turn next year to [4:55:09, 4:55:29]: To be Mayor Pro Tem, I believe. And we did the same thing with Councilwoman Barber. This is not something new. When I made the argument about, wait a minute, last year we said, wait a minute, Councilwoman Barber, no offense, nothing against her at that point in time, nothing against her, but she had given up her. [4:55:29, 4:55:49]: her spot by saying she didn't want want it that it was gonna go that she gave it to councilman thomas. And so it's on record. I mean it's on video. We can watch it. There are minutes. There's tape. Yeah where you oppose it has nothing and mayor it's my I have the floor councilwoman barber. [4:55:49, 4:56:09]: Councilwoman Barber, I have the floor. Councilwoman Barber, I have the floor. Now see I what what I don't what I do have an issue with is is that it is a c it's been a constant target. Yeah, we're we're gonna go ahead and vote. [4:56:09, 4:56:11]: It's been a constant target lately. [4:56:11, 4:56:20]: on certain things and it's not fair and I I ask that we stop it now. It's not this is not the way we should govern. [4:56:20, 4:56:40]: We should govern and do things fair and right. And it's okay for what you read. I'm ready to move forward with the vote. I can't get it out. But what I wanna say is Mayor Ford games. Oh all right, folks. Mayor Mayor Ford, can I correct the record before you vote though? [4:56:40, 4:56:41]: What's that? [4:56:42, 4:56:49]: I misspoke when I said resolution, it has to be by ordinance. Council can't be bound to anything past a year. [4:56:49, 4:57:09]: with a resolution. So if your position as mayor pro tem is more than a year, you can't it's one year. It's typically on typically only a year. But any it has to be an ordinance if it's gonna instead of resolution. I just wanted to correct myself on the record. Thank you. And mayor, let me say this in regards to rotations [4:57:09, 4:57:10]: Yeah. [4:57:11, 4:57:20]: Other cities do this. This is not something that's abnormal. This is something that happens all the time. We hear it at GMX [4:57:21, 4:57:21]: Good. [4:57:22, 4:57:42]: Mayor we hear it through GMA. I was l listen folks, this it's it's kinda getting out of hand here. Okay. I was originally I was originally reading the announces and upcoming events. That's what I was doing. All right. And this all came up. Just respect. Now we're ready. No, don't do that. [4:57:42, 4:57:50]: Don't do what's going on. No say let's call for the vote. We're ready to vote. We're ready to vote. Stand by. [4:57:51, 4:58:01]: You done spoke three times. Let's let come on. Mr. Thomas, do you have something to say so? May Mayor Ford, as a as this counselor know, I put out an email. [4:58:02, 4:58:06]: requesting a seeking support. What I was told [4:58:07, 4:58:10]: Да, вивой ту і ту ретрит. [4:58:11, 4:58:14]: To discuss this, but now No it didn't. [4:58:15, 4:58:22]: Okay. It said this should be discussed at the retreat or executive session. [4:58:23, 4:58:26]: And now you wanna everybody wanna change it now. [4:58:26, 4:58:31]: That's what we say. And then the point that that the charter says [4:58:31, 4:58:34]: That council shall appoint [4:58:35, 4:58:37]: If it's in rotation. [4:58:38, 4:58:58]: Then there's no need to appoint because it automatically goes to the next person. So you are violating the charter. No, we're not. The charter says a point. We're not. So if you're gonna create anything that says rotation, then you're in violation of the charter. No, we're not. We still have to vote at a point. No, if you're gonna [4:58:58, 4:59:06]: It's no point of vote, it's no point of nothing. It just automatically just rolls over. But it's against the charter. [4:59:07, 4:59:27]: But I I'm I'm just requesting if if if Mr. Barr would just rescind and then we can just close this out. No, we need to go ahead and call for the vote. It's time to vote. We don't had enough discussion. Well here's the thing. You you, Mr. Iron Sanders, said you wanted to be an announced decision. Did you not? Yes. Well, Mayor, are you sure that's gonna happen? The rotation. [4:59:27, 4:59:47]: Don't have to be uh unanimous. Mayor, see that's the trick right there. No, there's no trick. Mayor, let me ask you this, Mayor. What Mayor Ford, if I may, can we please move on? May I have the floor, Mayor? So bear, if you know, I was originally, like I said, reading announcements. I understand, but may I have the floor because you've and you entertained the motion. [4:59:47, 4:59:51]: We got a motion and a second. No, we do. There's a motion and a second. Ma'am for the vote. [4:59:52, 4:59:52]: No. [4:59:53, 4:59:56]: It was stated unanimously. May I have the floor. [4:59:57, 5:00:07]: This is crazy. Mayor Ford, I need to make a series of motions to um. We're not done with the motion that we're dealing with. Call for the vote so we can vote on this one and then move on. [5:00:07, 5:00:17]: It's wrong and I'm trying to figure out what the what is the pro You said you had a consensus not to amend the agenda. That's what you said. But you did differently than what you said. [5:00:18, 5:00:27]: We're gonna amend the agenda next you already did. So I wanna add we've amended the agenda of a couple of times tonight, but Mayor, we have a we have a first and a second. [5:00:28, 5:00:48]: And mister My hand is raised, Mayor Ford, and I'm waiting to be acknowledged. I just want to reconfirm my motion to approve the rotation described by Mr. Berry in the email earlier today. And again, he's Mayor Pro Tem this year. Councilwoman Gance, Mayor Pro Tem the following year after. [5:00:48, 5:01:00]: After that, I'm Mayor Pro Tem, then it goes back to Councilman Thomas, then it goes to Councilwoman Barber in rotation. Mr. Berry sent that himself, sir. Neither one of us. [5:01:01, 5:01:21]: Neither one of us may be here tomorrow. Hold on, listen up, folks. Let alone next year. Listen, listen up. Listen up. I don't agree with a rotation schedule of the mayor pro team. Listen up. We we first of all, if we go through with this vote, and yes, there's a violent motion on the floor and needs to be voted. I got that. So if we vote on this and it passes, the thing about it is if it breaks. [5:01:21, 5:01:41]: Breaks the charter, we can't do it. No, she just explained that it breaks the charter. We understand that. I understand what she said that but I'm what I understand what she said. I heard I heard what she said. Mayor all you do. I heard all you think. I'm sorry, Mr. Let her repeat that. May Mayor repeat that city attorney. And listen, Mayor. [5:01:41, 5:01:49]: For it. I want to bring my series of motions for us to vote on tonight. You can do that. City Attorney, what did you just say? [5:01:55, 5:01:59]: We can draft whatever you would like by ordinance. Thank you. [5:02:00, 5:02:11]: If you just all right, the motion has been put on the floor to start a rot rotation with Mayor Pro Tem, outlined as stated several times, made by Ms. Alexander, second by Miss Cannon. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:02:13, 5:02:33]: You're voting yes. Okay, so the motion passed. Well uh it you you all oppose. For the record, I oppose. Okay, Mr. and you oppose as well. So motion passed three, two. All right. Thank you. But Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. It's it was stated. I understand that it was going to be unanimous. Right. For the record. It was not. Right. [5:02:33, 5:02:46]: I wanted to vote for him to be mo unanimous if it was unanimous for the appointment tonight. It was unanimous for the appointment tonight. Therefore, there's a place I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda, please. [5:02:46, 5:02:53]: Okay. I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda to add an item. The first item [5:02:55, 5:03:01]: Go ahead. You ready? Um, to direct the HR manager to forward the current and previous [5:03:01, 5:03:04]: Job descriptions of the city clerk. [5:03:04, 5:03:07]: And the executive assistant to Mayor and Council. [5:03:07, 5:03:09]: directly to the governing body. [5:03:11, 5:03:12]: Okay, there's a second emotion. [5:03:14, 5:03:19]: Okay, all in favor of commotion made has been second by Mr uh Thomas. All in favor, please indicate. [5:03:21, 5:03:28]: Uh all pose. What's the question? Oh c what's the qu to add some more stuff to the agenda. No, so we can go home. [5:03:28, 5:03:29]: No. [5:03:30, 5:03:50]: The question is to shoot the motion deals with again HR to give uh job descriptions uh to the council to we so we can go thro look through the job descriptions. Make some changes. Wasn't it stated that that was already under process too? It it was it was already under process, not complete at this point, but yes, right, it was. [5:03:50, 5:03:55]: It is. So can we get clarification if it's already done that we don't need to vote? It's not complete at this point. [5:03:56, 5:03:57]: City Manager. [5:03:57, 5:04:02]: Is the motion to amend the to put it on the agenda to discuss? Right, right. It is. [5:04:02, 5:04:15]: I I just wanna d the city manager has said early in his report, you've already already directed HR to start the add this item to the agenda. The treasurer position that's already started, right? [5:04:17, 5:04:18]: Yes, sir. [5:04:18, 5:04:35]: You've already directed HR to do that. Yes, sir. This already begun and when you finish, you gonna bring that person to us, right? This is an item that I am asking to the to amend the agenda. I'll give my directive to Mr Gardner and he can direct his staff. [5:04:35, 5:04:42]: as you so choose. But right now just want to amend the agenda to add that particular item to the agenda. [5:04:43, 5:04:49]: So I'm so motion was made. It's seconded by Mr. Thomas. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:04:50, 5:04:51]: Opposed. [5:04:52, 5:04:53]: You opposing, sir? [5:04:54, 5:05:10]: You're you're you're you're abstaining. So so it's it's a tie. So right now we're not c I'll vote that uh it n doesn't go on the agenda. My next item to add to amend the agenda, my motion is to direct um [5:05:10, 5:05:19]: Um Mr. Gardner to post a position of the city attorney and forward the resumes as they are received. [5:05:20, 5:05:21]: Is there a second in a motion? [5:05:22, 5:05:23]: Is there a second to the motion? [5:05:24, 5:05:25]: What's the question, sir? [5:05:28, 5:05:30]: Yes sir. [5:05:35, 5:05:36]: I like to [5:05:37, 5:05:38]: Put. [5:05:38, 5:05:40]: Us on notice. [5:05:41, 5:05:42]: I feel [5:05:43, 5:05:48]: Then we'll sit here and violated the charter. We did and I and I cannot go forward. [5:05:49, 5:05:53]: with anything else because this is a violation. [5:05:53, 5:05:57]: And let me just say this and then w once that I I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna walk out. [5:05:58, 5:06:00]: The charter says [5:06:01, 5:06:04]: The mayor's pro tem shall be appointed by the council. [5:06:04, 5:06:04]: Mm-hmm. [5:06:05, 5:06:09]: If you put anything in a rotation, that eliminates [5:06:10, 5:06:14]: Rotation is it's automatic. So we're in violation. [5:06:16, 5:06:20]: of a charter and I can't sit here and violate the charter. [5:06:21, 5:06:23]: It's a violation. Okay. [5:06:24, 5:06:36]: Okay, so my next item since I can't get a second, this uh third one, um motion to direct staff to post an RFP soliciting proposals for services for an independent [5:06:37, 5:06:38]: Auditing firm. [5:06:39, 5:06:44]: Is there a second to the motion to add this to the agenda? Is there a second to the motion to add this to the agenda? [5:06:45, 5:06:47]: There's no second. What's your next motion? [5:06:47, 5:06:52]: Thank you, sir. My last um motion to amend the agenda. [5:06:52, 5:06:55]: To uh reactivate the finance committee. [5:06:55, 5:06:58]: And appoint a council liaison. [5:06:58, 5:07:00]: I believe Councilwoman Gantt served on the [5:07:01, 5:07:05]: finance committee until it was deactivated. I just wanted to amend the agenda. [5:07:06, 5:07:09]: Is there a s second to amend the agenda to have this discussion? [5:07:09, 5:07:17]: Is there a second to amend the agenda to have this discussion? So there's no second amendment filled. Thank you, sir. All right. [5:07:17, 5:07:37]: Back to what I was doing originally. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month. Welcome center Main Street offices located 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, 9 a.m. January 12th. Downtown Development Authority meeting third Tuesday Tuesday of each month. Welcome center 130 Arnold King Senior Heritage Trail January 16th. [5:07:37, 5:07:57]: Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6 30 p.m. third Tuesday of each month. Levi Meeting Room City Hall January 16th. Planning Commission meeting 630, City Hall Council Chambers, January 24th. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, January 30th. Stockbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting first Thursday. [5:07:57, 5:08:17]: Of each month, 6 p.m. at Stockbridge, Police and Community Room, 4545, North Henry Boulevard, February 1st. City Council meeting second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, February 12th. Youth Council meeting second Monday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall Count City Hall Levi Meeting Room, February 12th. Upcoming City [5:08:17, 5:08:37]: City initiatives and events. Join Councilman Alexander for the annual Martin Luther King Jr. Day of Service Community Cleanup on Hudson Bridge Road Saturday, January 13th from 9 a.m. to eleven AM. Please park at Hudson Bridge parking lot. For more information, please contact Roz and Ross at 678-833-3348 or R Ross at StopBridge. [5:08:37, 5:08:57]: Rais GA.org. Join Councilman Thomas for the monthly senior Senior Bingo Bash on Wednesday, January 6th, 17th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merrill Manos Conference Center 111-Davis Road for raffles, prizes, games, snacks, and fun. For more information, please contact Rosland Rawls at 678-833-338-2300. [5:08:57, 5:09:17]: Join Mayor Ford for the monthly meet the mayor on Monday, January 22nd at 10 a.m. to 12 noon. Please contact Ros and Ross to schedule an appointment at 678-833-3348 or uh call, excuse me, or email R Ros at [5:09:17, 5:09:19]: [18561.1, 18581.1]: So in Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative centered around education highlights and causing effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans and continues to salute all year long. Please send your pictures to our veterans and their names, rank, and branch, years of service to R. Raws at Stockbridgega.org. [5:09:41, 5:10:01]: My comments, happy new year to you. Make sure that you take your COVID-19 updated booster shot, take your flu shot, and RSV is uh respiratory, I guess, conditions are happening in Georgia. And uh please enjoy the Martin Luther King holiday weekend. Do be of a service, show your respect and support. [5:10:01, 5:10:21]: support of the one Luther King Jr., especially since you live in the Stockbridge area. And since this is the ancestral home of the King family. God bless you all. And uh as far as I understand there is no executive session at this time. So I need a motion to end our meeting. Motion to adjourn. Is there a second? All for you please indicate [5:10:20, 5:10:24]: God bless you all. [5:10:30, 5:10:32]: Thank you. Thank you. [5:10:32, 5:10:37]: Mayor, we're the governing body. We change the charter. We vote for the charter.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2023-12-11 source: 2023-12-11_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:14:52, 0:14:54]: All right, let's roll it. [0:15:02, 0:15:03]: [905.1, 905.7]: Mm-hmm. [0:15:26, 0:15:40]: All right, Madam Clerk. Uh let's see here. Okay. All right, ladies and gentlemen. I have uh six o'clock and at this point I'd like to start our council meeting December eleventh and 2023. Call it two hours. [0:15:41, 0:15:45]: And um if you can please stand for the invocation. Mr. Blount, please. [0:15:51, 0:16:10]: Dear Heavenly and Gracious Father, we come to you first. Thank you, Lord, for your grace and we thank you for your mercy. We thank you, Heavenly Father, for each and everyone here in leadership. We thank you, Lord, for those that would come tonight, that would listen and that would learn, Heavenly Father. We ask that everything would be done decently and in order and in your sight, Heavenly Father, moving forward and standing your will. [0:16:10, 0:16:30]: We thank you, Heavenly Father, for this great city called Stockbridge, Lord, that you will continue to bless it. Bless those around the world right now, Heavenly Father, that are hurting, that are hungry. Bless those, Heavenly Father, that will come in later. Bless us even as we leave, Heavenly Father. We trust in you in all things. It's in Jesus' name that we pray. Amen. Amen. And do we pledge allegiance? I pledge allegiance to [0:16:30, 0:16:41]: We flag a United States of America into the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:16:43, 0:16:45]: Roll call, Madam Clerk. [0:16:48, 0:16:49]: [1009.2, 1016.8]: Present. Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. [0:16:57, 0:16:58]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:17:00, 0:17:09]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Council, I need now need a [0:17:10, 0:17:14]: a adoption to uh amend uh excuse me adoption of the agenda for this evening. [0:17:18, 0:17:19]: So move. Is there a second? [0:17:20, 0:17:25]: Second. Okay. From uh Mr Alexander and Mr Blount. Offer please indicate. [0:17:26, 0:17:34]: Thank you very much. Appreciate that. And what you have before you, Council, or the adoption of the minutes, summary of minutes from the council meeting on October 9th. [0:17:35, 0:17:43]: And also the summary minutes from council work session, October thirtieth. If there are no corrections at this time, I need the motion to accept those into the record. [0:17:43, 0:17:48]: So I'll second it. Okay, from Mr. Blount to uh Ms. Alexander, all in favor please indicate. [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:17:52, 0:18:12]: And um for a special note for the gentlemen in the in the room, please if you have gentlemen, if you please remove your hats for the meeting, please. All the gentlemen, please remove your hats if you can. Appreciate that. Thank you very much. Uh what we had earlier, ladies and gentlemen, we had a ceremonial part of our uh part of our meeting, uh about 545, and we had the Equal Rights Amendment. [0:18:12, 0:18:29]: Amendment proclamation, the hundred-year anniversary of the Equal Rights Amendment. And I have before us Georgia's National Organization for Women. Uh President Trianna Arnold James is present to receive that. And I actually see you're still here in the audience. Could you please stand, please? Okay, Miss Aspect? Miss James. All right. [0:18:33, 0:18:53]: What the proclamation outlined uh the hundred year anniversary of of getting an Equal Rights Amendment uh ratified in in in our country. And obviously there's still uh we've got thirty eight states right now. We're looking for twelve more states and Georgia is one of those states that has yet to ratify that. So there's gonna be an effort this legislative session coming around in January to try to get that uh ratified within [0:18:53, 0:19:05]: Within the state of Georgia, looking for equal rights for women across the board. Okay. Thank you very much for uh Ms. James, and uh appreciate the fact that we, the City of Stockbridge, are supporting this effort as well. [0:19:05, 0:19:25]: Um Madam Clerk, do we have any uh public comments at all? There are no public comments, Mayor. Okay. All right, Council, I have before you uh before us a consent agenda. Let me read these off. Approval of the twenty twenty four public meeting schedules, approval of the twenty twenty four agenda timeline, approval of the twenty twenty four holiday calendar, approval of the twenty twenty [0:19:25, 0:19:41]: twenty twenty-four city council initiative calendar, approval of reappointment of the Main Street Advisory Board members, approval of the reappointment of the Downtown Development Board members, approval of the reappointment of the Youth Council Advisory Committee members, approval of the reappointment of public facilities authority board members, [0:19:45, 0:19:54]: Approval of the twenty twenty-four events calendar, approval of the acceptance of three hundred thousand dollar grant from the US D.O.J. Bureau of Justice Administration. [0:19:54, 0:20:14]: And before our police department there. Approval of procurement of 18 flock license plate readers and one portable for the ease of deployment,$108,700, once again for our police department. Approval to accept$165,000 grant from the Office of Center Raphael Warnock via Edward G. Bryn Braun's Bryan's law enforcement. [0:20:14, 0:20:34]: for mental health and wellness program. I believe it once again for our police department. Approval of the acceptance of a grant award of$2,000 from the Walmart to$5,600 North Henry Boulevard and$3,400 from the Walmart to$1,500, excuse me,$1,400 Hudson Bridge Roads. And that's uh I believe for the shop with a comp uh for the um for the kids of this holiday season. [0:20:34, 0:20:54]: Approval Acceptance Award of$160,000 for our accreditation accreditation grant approval for the 2024 workers compensation renewal policy key risk. Um excuse me, let me read re-bread. Approval acceptance award of$160,000 for a credit rate uh accreditation grant and approval of the 2024 [0:20:54, 0:21:13]: workmen's compensation renewal policy key risk for$107,107. And approval of the 2023 bad debt write-off presented by the department staff at VB. Those are on the consent agenda. If they're all if there's all acceptable for the council, I just need overall approval of this particular uh motion. [0:21:13, 0:21:15]: So move. Is there a second? [0:21:16, 0:21:20]: Okay, Mr. C Mr. Alexander and Mr Thomas. All I'm fairly please indicate. [0:21:21, 0:21:33]: Thank you very much, Council. On that note, we have unfinished business. Council consideration approved the ordinance referencing the cafeteria list of homestead exemptions for the city of Stockbridge affected one january twenty twenty five. Mr. Gardner, please. [0:22:00, 0:22:15]: Good evening, Mayor, Council members, residents. Uh tonight you have before you an ordinance um to accept for exemption to grant homestead exemption for qualified residents and other purposes. Uh as you know at our last meeting [0:22:15, 0:22:22]: We went over the chart that was submitted to us by a financial advisor outlining the [0:22:23, 0:22:37]: um exemptions options, uh and they will go L one, which is similar to all of the exemptions that are offered to Henry County. Um staff council asked staff to revisit the numbers, which we did with the financial advisor. [0:22:37, 0:22:45]: And we've got exemptions, regular exemptions as homeowners for ten thousand. They're currently at five thousand fifteen thousand with the county. [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: Uh age sixty two. [0:22:48, 0:22:54]: Ten thousand, eight sixty five and older, ten thousand, eight sixty eight and older, ten thousand septic tanks, five five thousand. [0:22:55, 0:23:15]: Age seventy, ten thousand. Uh disabled veterans, sixty-five and over ten thousand. The impact uh we discussed would be right around three hundred and six thousand forty-one dollars. Um that would impact the FY twenty-five budget. That's a year from now, not this year, not the current current year. Um obviously the [0:23:15, 0:23:25]: The process is once this is out voted on by the council, we will then submit this to our delegation, local delegation to the state representatives and Senate. [0:23:25, 0:23:26]: Labeled in [0:23:26, 0:23:46]: appropriate a bill under their requirements. Um that will then give us an opportunity once the governor signs that bill and it's passed through the House and the Senate. Go to the governor's desk. He will sign it. There will be a referendum on the 24, 2024 general election calendar, November of next year for citizens [0:23:46, 0:23:54]: To vote to accept the homestead exemption. And once that's done, if it's approved, we'll take effect uh April 2025. [0:23:55, 0:23:58]: Thanks, sir. And questions for counseling questions for Mr. Gardner at all? [0:24:01, 0:24:02]: Oh, go ahead, please. [0:24:03, 0:24:05]: Mr Gardner. [0:24:05, 0:24:07]: For the septic systems. [0:24:08, 0:24:12]: The headcount of four twenty seven, is that the number of households? [0:24:15, 0:24:22]: Yes, ma'am, I think that's the projected number of of households that that would would get that award if approved. Thank you. You're welcome. [0:24:22, 0:24:36]: If there are no other questions, uh council, I need a motion. I just want to confirm we had discussed a couple of options. This is the one that'll have the least impact on the budget. That is correct. Correct. So I'll make a motion for approval. Okay, thank you. Uh Mr. Alison is there a second to the motion. [0:24:38, 0:24:39]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:24:45, 0:24:52]: All right. There's no second emotion, ladies and gentlemen. All right, from Mr. Alzheimer's and Ms. Barber. [0:24:52, 0:24:54]: Okay, all favor, please indicate. [0:24:55, 0:24:58]: It's unanimous decision. All right, thank you very much. [0:24:58, 0:25:07]: Okay, what we have before us, ladies and gentlemen, we have a public hearing. We have three public different public hearings this evening. Let me read the engagement rules for the public hearing. [0:25:09, 0:25:22]: Public hearing rules. Please move all cell phones and all electrical devices. If em if anyone wishes to speak tonight on public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and and hand it to City Clerk before approaching the podium. [0:25:23, 0:25:34]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and the representative regarding the proposed plans of property along with and any other relevant information. [0:25:35, 0:25:37]: The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. [0:25:38, 0:25:43]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have the opportunity to do so. [0:25:44, 0:25:50]: East side we've allotted allotted ten minutes total. The additional time may be extended at the direction of the council. [0:25:51, 0:25:56]: Please keep comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. [0:25:57, 0:26:00]: We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. [0:26:01, 0:26:05]: Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:26:05, 0:26:15]: After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer, which is me, and never to the members of the council, staff, or audience. [0:26:16, 0:26:21]: All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. [0:26:22, 0:26:25]: Please note that these hearings are not a debate. [0:26:26, 0:26:33]: Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and a building by law enforcement if if deviate if you deviate from this these proceedings. [0:26:34, 0:26:49]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next or and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. [0:26:50, 0:26:54]: If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. [0:26:55, 0:27:00]: The presiding officer will call for a motion, a second and a second to the motion. [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: And have any necessary discussion. [0:27:03, 0:27:09]: If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [0:27:11, 0:27:30]: On that note, those are rules of engagement. And what we have before us uh deals with annexation case AX2023-03, which is located in district council district five, consideration of request for annexation of property, a property of 77 and 87 Holloway Road. [0:27:30, 0:27:32]: The front is on Patrick Henry Parkway. [0:27:32, 0:27:52]: Located in unincorporated Henry County into the city limits of Stockbridge. Also, we have a comprehensive plan amendment case, CP 2023-03, to be located once again in Council District 5. Consideration of a request for a comprehensive plan amendment to assign future land use designation and high density. [0:27:52, 0:28:00]: Residential for the property 77 and 87 Holloway Road, frontage of Patrick County Parkway, located in an accorated area of Henry County. [0:28:01, 0:28:05]: and if if and after the parcels are annexed into the city limits to stop bridge. [0:28:05, 0:28:20]: And once again, let's see here, we have the rezoning case of um rezoning case RZ twenty twenty-three-zero four, once again located in Council District Five, and request to assign the zoning district of PUD Plan Unit Development. [0:28:21, 0:28:24]: Two parcel of seventy seven eighty seven Holloway Road. [0:28:24, 0:28:44]: Frontage and the park on Henry Parkway, located once again in c incorporated Henry County, and if and after parcels are annexed into the city limits of Stomp Ridge. Mr. Ryan, please, Anderson. Good evening. I'd like to remind um the audience that these are three related cases and we'll be doing one presentation. [0:28:44, 0:28:46]: For the forty three cases. [0:28:51, 0:28:51]: Wow. [0:28:54, 0:29:03]: This is a request to annex property at 77 and 87 Holloway Road with frontage on park on Patrick Henry Parkway. Uh it's 14.16 [0:29:04, 0:29:15]: It's two acres. The current use is vacant with a single family residence on eighty-seven Holloway Road. The current county zoning is RA. The county land use designation is mixed use. [0:29:17, 0:29:18]: Uh do cannot. [0:29:20, 0:29:21]: Above on the [0:29:23, 0:29:38]: slide you can see that um a copy of the um other of the subject property. 87 Holloway Road is right here. Um to the north of the property you have the encompass help rehabilitation hospital of Henry. [0:29:39, 0:29:43]: And seventy seven Holloway Road is just south of eighty seven Holl Holloway Road. [0:29:45, 0:30:05]: um adjacent properties on his properties to the north you got rm multifamily residential r a residential aquaculture districts to the south of the of the sites you have rr rural residential city of stockbridge c three heavy commercial district to the east of the property you have rm multifamily residential [0:30:05, 0:30:11]: And to the west of the property you have R R City of Stockbridge, OI Office Institutional City of Stockbridge. [0:30:13, 0:30:16]: Here is a joint zoning map of the of the property. [0:30:17, 0:30:22]: They have joint county and city zoning all on one map. You can see that there are [0:30:24, 0:30:35]: related zoning and that the that it wouldn't be a spot zoning and that the proposed use that is pro being proposed for mixed use development by the applicant is compatible with the existing neighborhood. [0:30:38, 0:30:58]: Surrounding uh land use designations. To the north you got the Eagle Crest subdivision, which is high density residential, which is what the applicant is requesting. To the south you got vacant land, vacant land, but the land use designation is medium density vertical mixed use and mixed use here in county. Mixed use is also compatible to what the applicant is proposing. [0:30:58, 0:31:18]: They're proposing a rezoning the PUD, which is the same as Henry County's mixed use. Property to the east, you got Eagles Crest Subdivision and Eagles Landing Middle School. The land use for both of those sites are high density residential, and the school is park, recreation, conservation. Sorry, property to the west. [0:31:17, 0:31:37]: You got vacant land and you got the encompass health rehabilitation hospital of Henry. You got medium density vertical mixed use land use stock bridge and high density residential uh Henry County. The applicant is proposing high density uh land use designation, which also means that it's compatible to the existing. [0:31:37, 0:31:39]: Land use. [0:31:41, 0:31:51]: Here's the joint future land use map. And you can see all by the colors that the applicant's proposal is compatible and consistent with the existing land use in the area. [0:31:56, 0:32:08]: Project information the developer pro to propose to build a mixed residential development with 136 units, including ninety-two single-family detached rental units and forty-four duplex. [0:32:08, 0:32:14]: rental units. In addition, the development will include a dog park, pool spa, and a gazebo. [0:32:24, 0:32:44]: The um the subject property is is contiguous to the city of Stockbridge, which makes it eligible to be annexed into the city. As a result, Steph recommends approval of the annexation. As it relates to the uh rezoning, the subject property, uh the proposed rezoning that the city will assign a PUD is compatible with the existing. [0:32:44, 0:33:00]: existing land use in the county or mixed use. So that is compatible and um and it's compatible with the existing zoning in the in the neighborhood. So staff recommends approval of the um of the comp plan and approval of the rezoning. [0:33:03, 0:33:05]: So I covered um all three cases. [0:33:06, 0:33:20]: Thank you. Um the applicant is here obviously. Uh next uh bat uh next uh metro acquisition. Uh or Miss Battle. I didn't know if you wanted to add anything else before we go into conversation with the council here. [0:33:20, 0:33:21]: No, sir, that's it. [0:33:21, 0:33:22]: Okay. [0:33:23, 0:33:24]: On that [0:33:30, 0:33:50]: Thank you. I have a couple of questions of the staff. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, Mr. Sir thank you, Ryan. Well Mr. Anderson, we appreciate that. Now certainly uh you've reviewed this project uh in detail and you've worked hand in hand uh [0:33:50, 0:34:10]: So trying to make sure that everything complied with uh the city zoning code and um the new development code that we've established for the city, is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay, certainly I think um this development is a should not be viewed as a standalone. [0:34:09, 0:34:29]: It should be viewed as the comprehensive part of the comprehensive master plan for Patrick Henry Parkway, which is uh an overall plan, which we'll be discussing uh later on uh in with a with a with another rezoning that we have coming up further. [0:34:29, 0:34:49]: So when you look at this in isolation, you see it as just this solo project. But in essence, what it is is an attempt by the city to improve this area and make sure that nothing but excellence uh would be would would be brought into the area. It limits what other types of uses, especially unit. [0:34:49, 0:34:53]: Exactly. Yes. [0:34:53, 0:35:13]: And future before we established this and we went down uh even with the future master plan, we had uh Henry the Henry County had a Johtoco North and a Johtoco South for this particular area that they had already uh put together and we're uh basically kind of revising that. [0:35:13, 0:35:16]: This project was actually in keeping with that as well, correct? [0:35:16, 0:35:21]: Yes, sir. We recommend all the um recommendations that Henry County had associated with this property. [0:35:22, 0:35:35]: Absolutely. And it is true uh as well that Henry County has a three hundred plus unit um luxur uh apartment complex under construction along Patrick Henry Parkway now, is that correct? Yes, sir. [0:35:36, 0:35:40]: It was told that us that there was a discussion about this area area. [0:35:42, 0:36:02]: Only having medical but by uh Henry County official, but they have that that project is under construction right now on Patrick Henry Parkway. So if the desire was to make it only medical, then why would they do that? [0:36:02, 0:36:11]: We understand what we're trying to do is keep it in keeping with what we're trying to go uh with our comprehensive plan for the city. But I thank you. [0:36:12, 0:36:12]: Uh thank you. [0:36:13, 0:36:33]: Right. Uh on that note, Council, any other questions from the council you may have at this point? Yeah. Go ahead, sir. Yeah, real quick, Ryan. Uh I think that was one of my concerns is that with this project, uh, and I did speak to uh District Five Representative Ms. Alexander, is that it staked uh with the same conditions we've left [0:36:33, 0:36:50]: On other developments, um be material and everything else pertaining to that. I just want to make sure that the precedence that was set, this is adhered to that, what I was happening to dissect it ourselves, that that it that this is also put in the um [0:36:50, 0:36:56]: Yes, sir. It will ha it would be it would be um be comprised of high quality m uh materials and uh [0:36:56, 0:37:05]: And follow all the other um conditions and regulations and requirements of our UDC. With the building percentages and all of that. Yes, sir. Thank you. All right. [0:37:06, 0:37:09]: Hi, Ms. Battle, do you have anything you wanna add at this point? [0:37:16, 0:37:17]: There it is. [0:37:19, 0:37:37]: Good evening, everyone. Good evening. Let me see if I can get this a little closer. Michelle Battle with Battle Law, 3562, Habersham at North Lake Tucker, Georgia, 30084. It's always wonderful to be here in front of you all tonight. Um I'm gonna put up the PowerPoint that we have. [0:37:41, 0:38:01]: I think staff has done an excellent job of describing the project. Um, what I want to do is just add a little bit of extra um to the pot. And if we can get here, great. All right. Um Avila is um next metro community is building um this proposed project. This is one of the first projects. [0:38:01, 0:38:06]: projects of this type that will have been built in the Metro Atlanta area. [0:38:06, 0:38:26]: It is a very unique product that they are proposing, and we'll go into more detail about that. But the first part is this annexation request. We believe that this annexation is in alignment with the vision that the city already has along Patrick Henry, while the property currently is zoned RA. [0:38:26, 0:38:46]: We are asking for an intensity an up upping the intensity in the land use designation for the site to be consistent with the city's vision along the corridor, as well as, quite honestly, the county's stated vision in its comprehensive plan as well. The property and [0:38:46, 0:39:06]: As already indicated, is located around along this mixed-use corridor. We're down in this area right below the rehab facility before you get to Jodoko Road. And we know that the city, again, as Councilmember Alexander has indicated, will be looking much more closely. [0:39:06, 0:39:20]: at this corridor as you all continue to grow the city and grow this particular area, which will have a mixture of uses, including retail, office, multifamily, single-family attached townhomes, and the like. [0:39:21, 0:39:32]: In terms of this particular project, I think that the video that we have will actually best describe the product type, and if I can get it to go on here. [0:39:33, 0:39:36]: apologize, I'm trying to get rid of these little [0:39:37, 0:39:43]: That's at the bottom. Let's see if that will start it. I may have to ask your IT person to help me out a little bit. [0:39:44, 0:39:46]: Okay, is he here? Where are you? [0:39:49, 0:39:49]: I can't. [0:39:52, 0:39:58]: Let me see here. Oh wait a minute, that might've been that might have done it. Perfect. You can watch this. [0:41:31, 0:41:51]: So the product that we're looking at here is a single story detached cottage style homes that will be rental community and it will be maintenance-free living. This is a real choice that is made by the individuals who'll be living within this community. Um as we know as we're in this housing crisis that there are many people [0:41:51, 0:42:11]: Who have made the decision to actually rent as opposed to own. And so while the city continues to grow with its single-family, detached fee simple product, this product is actually kind of that in-betwixt and in-between space. Those who don't pref who don't choose to live in [0:42:11, 0:42:31]: A high-rise apartment complex that may have, say, a dog or have other desires to be able to have kind of an outdoor space with their home. These individuals will have a backspace, a backyard space where they will be able to go outside, to grill, to have if they [0:42:31, 0:42:51]: They have a dog or a cat or an animal, they will be able to be out in a fenced-in area located within their home. So it really is a different type of a home style where people are renting these cottage homes for in in many instances long term. A lot of times what you'll find is that [0:42:51, 0:43:08]: Um they have seniors who will um make the decision to sell their primary home and move into this um type of a community. There's also many who are in the medical profession and we'll show you some of the other information about those who tend to come into this type of space. Um [0:43:10, 0:43:30]: When we go to the next slide, um, again, these are renters by choice. Many of them have the financial means to buy a home, but they've chosen not to at this point. And so the majority of the residents here are either professional millennials, midlife singles, dual-income couples, or empty nesters. The age um 58% are 35 and older, 23 percent. [0:43:30, 0:43:50]: Are typically 55 and older with an average household income of$132,000. Minor occupants typically they don't have more than about 20% of those in the households being children, mainly because, again, this is really a product that is geared towards. [0:43:50, 0:43:52]: Yeah. [0:43:53, 0:44:07]: Again, we show some portfolios about the average household income. Um, this product has proven itself to be successful in areas such as Arizona, Texas, Colorado, uh, and Florida, and that is why the desires to move into the Georgia market. [0:44:08, 0:44:28]: From marital status, um, most of the individuals that they have found in these communities by taking um polls in the communities that they have, um, most are single at uh 45% are either single, never married, or singled, widowed, separated, or divorced. Um roughly forty-three percent are married, and then twelve percent. [0:44:28, 0:44:30]: and are partnered in some way. [0:44:31, 0:44:50]: Number of children, again, the average household within these communities typically have no children living in the household, roughly 80%. The balance has one, two, or three children living within the community or within the household. [0:44:50, 0:45:10]: Staff um in terms of the site plan, we do have frontage along Patrick Henry. There are two points of entry. Um, one is a full service entry, one is, I believe, a right-in, right out. Um, we will be placing um amenities along within the community. Um, as you enter into the community, we will have the 10 um foot uh multipass. [0:45:10, 0:45:30]: Sidewalk that has been hailed by Commissioner I mean Councilmember Alexander. It's something he has pushed very hard to make sure that you have um kind of walkability along this portion of Patrick Henry as it will connect into the other sidewalks that will be developed along this corridor. When we get into the interior [0:45:30, 0:45:50]: Of the site, we have the leasing office, and then you've got both single-family detached cottages and duplexes. So they're a mixture of those throughout. The units are one, two, and three bedrooms. The one bedrooms will be at$18.50, roughly the opening rental cost. [0:45:50, 0:45:57]: The two bedrooms will be at 2200 and the three bedrooms will be at 2500 per month. [0:45:59, 0:46:19]: Um one of the things that we did modify since the last uh hearing before Planning Commission was the relocation of the dumpster pads. Initially, they had been located along the perimeter of the site adjacent to the residential homes. Those have now been relocated. Um they are now on the opposite side, which is adjacent to [0:46:19, 0:46:21]: to the rehabilitation facility. [0:46:24, 0:46:41]: When we look at the housing styles, um they will be a mixture of textures, um, board and batten, um, other fibers say fiber cementaceous materials, um, as well as either brick stone brick or stone around the water table, and you can see here around the pole. [0:46:47, 0:46:57]: And one of the things that we wanted to point out, um, because I need to go through the proposed conditions um that staff had set forth um in your package, is that um [0:46:57, 0:47:17]: The staff had recommended that we provide dwelling facades having separate styles and colors for the one, two, and three bedroom units. We actually will have each plan will have roughly three elevations or more for each of the planned plan types. And so the duplex, the two-bedroom. [0:47:17, 0:47:37]: And the three bedrooms are all have three elevations, each equaling nine different elevations throughout the community. So we don't want everything to look identical. It is not intended to kind of look like barracks. This is a community. We want people to be able to come in and see the aesthetic appearance. [0:47:37, 0:47:46]: Appeal of the community as well. And so there will be different styles with different textures, different colors, and the like. [0:47:47, 0:48:07]: Um in terms of security, that was one of the other issues that came up during our prior public hearing. Um what we know is that when people purchase a home, typically they don't have to go through any type of criminal background check. Um there's none of uh that when you're purchasing a home. But in this case, because this is a multifamily development. [0:48:07, 0:48:27]: With one developer owning the entire community, there will be criminal background checks as well as other community safety measures that will be put in place. They do a premium national criminal search, including felonies and misdemeanor convictions, national sex offender registry search, terrorist search, and [0:48:27, 0:48:47]: Additionally, they also follow best practices and run supplemental county-state criminal searches as well. Their residents are at a minimum in terms of income ratio, have to be 2.5 times the rent. Credit is run with typical credit bureaus. If you have a felony, there's an automatic [0:48:47, 0:49:07]: Denial. If you commit a felony while you're a resident, they do have the right to evict, and any criminal activity, felony, or misdemeanor on property will automatically evict. There's fencing around the exterior of the property, and there will be gated access to the community. In your package, you [0:49:07, 0:49:27]: would have received the staff's recommendation. There are only a couple of things that I wanted to highlight that we um asked um to be amended. Um the first um regards to the parcel recombination. Um in the staff report it had indicated um that this zoning would not be if it is approved would not be final until [0:49:27, 0:49:46]: The parcels had been combined and we have asked that that language be removed, that it simply start that no permits shall be issued by the city until the developer provides to planning and zoning that the two parcels individually have been combined. [0:49:47, 0:49:49]: When we get to the site plan [0:49:50, 0:50:10]: Um there is um one slight change, which is that um we submitted a site plan with um a March twenty-ninth, twenty twenty-three date. Um the plan that we just presented to you did relocate um the dumpsters. That was the only change. Um if that is [0:50:09, 0:50:21]: Simply stated, I think we'll be fine. Um, but if you need to make reference to the plan that I just showed you that has a last revised date of November thirtieth. In terms of the amenities. [0:50:22, 0:50:42]: Um we were very, very specific about the types of amenities that we wanted to offer in this community. Um and that includes a resort-style pool and spa, a game lawn, a grill pavilion, a fire pit, a dog park, and an indoor multi-purpose um room. And so all of those will be [0:50:42, 0:51:02]: Be provided, and we would much prefer as opposed to the provision that's currently in the conditions that makes it open and broad, that it will be additional amenities as determined by staff. We would prefer to be able to say that we will be providing that resort-style pool and spa, the game lawn, the grill, the fire. [0:51:02, 0:51:10]: Fire pit, the dog park, and the indoor multi-purpose room, all is reflected in the um uh site plan. [0:51:11, 0:51:31]: Um I've already made mention of the architectural design component. Um it doesn't matter whether we leave it in or not, but we actually have already obtained the easements necessary for water and sewer availability, so we don't actually need a condition with regards to that because that has already been addressed. Um there will be a [0:51:31, 0:51:51]: um property management company. Staff in here had a homeowners association. That is only for a fee simple product. So we just wanted to make it clear that we will have property management on site. We've also agreed to have a 10 the 10 foot path along Patrick Henry and agreed to the masonry wall. [0:51:51, 0:51:59]: Also shown in the site plan, which was already presented to staff with that March 29th date. So we think that those things are already kind of [0:52:00, 0:52:00]: Um [0:52:01, 0:52:21]: assumed within that site plan, but we just wanted to make sure that that was clear that we are doing those things. So with that, um probably the only two or three that really need to be addressed from our perspective is not having the plat or this rezoning if it is approved, final, only [0:52:21, 0:52:41]: Upon the recombination. Instead, the recombination is just another condition that we have to meet before the LDP is actually issued. We'd like to be able to state specifically what our amenities are going to be, and we would like to have addressed that the architectural style that we will be required to have three elevations. [0:52:41, 0:52:57]: Each um equaling nine different elevations throughout the community. And we are here to answer any further questions that you may have. Thank you. Thank you for your presentation, Miss Battle. Really appreciate that. And on that note, let's start with Mr. Alexander, sir, please. Yeah, Ms. Battle, if you would come back [0:52:58, 0:53:18]: Let's look at the uh the uh the layout of the community. And we had some discussions about uh the tr the interior sidewalks as trails so the residents would be there would be some walkability inside the development that is correct, so that those would not just be stuck. [0:53:18, 0:53:27]: standard five-foot sidewalk that they would be wider so that residents could bike along that or jog along that if they needed to. [0:53:27, 0:53:47]: I believe that the sidewalk is six foot um um in the interior. Um there are sidewalks throughout the community. You could kind of see that from the um video that we showed. Um and so we feel that we are honoring what you request. Okay, so you got six feet. Okay. Yes. All right. No s they wouldn't be standard five. Okay, that's hold on. [0:53:53, 0:53:58]: And sir, when you come to the mic, please uh This is Sean Rust with Next Medical. I don't know what who you are. [0:54:02, 0:54:02]: Okay. [0:54:02, 0:54:03]: Yeah, that's right. [0:54:04, 0:54:05]: Okay, we're fine. Six. [0:54:05, 0:54:25]: That that's what we want. We want walkability, want people to be able to bike on it uh if from inside out to be able to connect with the ten foot multi-youth path. And also we want to specify that the um the ten foot sidewalk is to be along b the frontage on uh Patrick's [0:54:25, 0:54:42]: Henry Parkway and you have frontage on Holloway Road too, correct? No. We excuse me. You have a small bit of frontage on Holloway Road. The one on Holloway Road would need to be eight feet, not uh ten feet. So it'll be smaller'cause of a smaller secondary road. [0:54:44, 0:54:44]: Okay. [0:54:45, 0:54:46]: Uh [0:54:46, 0:54:49]: Did you ever have that in your plan or is that something we need to to add in there? [0:54:50, 0:55:10]: No, that would ready there. Shawmrus, 270, Turnbridge Circle, Peachtree City, Georgia. Uh that would be something that we would need to add, I believe. Yeah, because right now you didn't have any side you didn't have a sidewalk on that side. We just need to add to make sure we want walkability all the way around. We want to make sure that we do that because when the next neighborhood [0:55:10, 0:55:11]: [3311.5, 3331.5]: Or the county decides to put sidewalk down Holloway Road. We don't want to be that we want to go ahead and get that started so that one day residents will be able to leave that complex, take their bike down Holloway Road to the school to the high school and to the uh middle school uh in that area in a safe [0:55:31, 0:55:46]: safe and effective manner. So I appreciate that the community is gated, correct? It is. We gated entry, both sides entry. Uh uh street lights in uh the the interior, the street lights in the interior. [0:55:46, 0:55:46]: Yes, sir. [0:55:47, 0:55:53]: Okay. And okay, uh okay, I'll ask the next question of staff. Thank you. [0:55:53, 0:56:01]: Thank you. I appreciate it. Ms. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Yeah, uh the question is uh you guys mentioned were you finished, Mr. Amazon? [0:56:02, 0:56:22]: The only other thing is we've been as we're going, we're going to modify our uh zoning codes that we re start requiring uh flock cameras for the protection on the security side. So certainly I would like for you to we i if you would be so incumbent to do so, that would be great. [0:56:22, 0:56:24]: Yes, I add in the flock. Where would the cat? [0:56:25, 0:56:30]: Where were the cameras? At the front entrance? At the entrances. Yes. Okay. Okay. [0:56:31, 0:56:38]: So you're good with that as well? Yes, sir. Yes. Okay. They agreed to that. All right. Yes, sir. All right. Go ahead. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:56:38, 0:56:46]: Yeah, on the um the management, uh on site management. So the on-site management would be responsible for [0:56:46, 0:56:49]: Everything. Everything, yes. Yes, sir. [0:56:50, 0:57:07]: Um the common areas, making sure that all the units are um in proper working order, facades, everything. They are responsible. Lawn lawn, amenities, one person, one management company. If there's any challenges, all the city has to do is contact the property management company. [0:57:07, 0:57:08]: Okay. [0:57:10, 0:57:22]: Any other questions, Council? Mayor. You go right, please. Just for clarification, everything means the residential homes, correct? Yes. Including civil bonds. Everything is manic. Everything is taken care of. Okay. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: Any other questions, Council? [0:57:26, 0:57:46]: All right, so with uh no problem. So otherwise you agree to those additional things. Okay, on that note you can probably have a seat at this point. I'm gonna open up the public hearing to the to the audience here, to the residents here. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna open up the public hearing, and this way uh you have an opportunity to say yay or nay, especially your opinion one way or the other. And so we're gonna [0:57:46, 0:58:05]: gonna start on and actually we initially start with ten minutes uh for each side. Okay. So I'll open the public hearing I'll start at my particular left. Anybody in the left section that have some p positive comments, positive comments uh for this particular uh particular development, positive comments for this particular development on the left side. [0:58:05, 0:58:08]: My let's say in the middle. Anybody have any positive comments? [0:58:08, 0:58:11]: For this for this particular development in this middle section. [0:58:12, 0:58:18]: I'm going over to my right. Anybody on the right side? Posit comments on the right side for this particular development. [0:58:19, 0:58:31]: Okay. Mayor Ford. Yes ma'am just for the rec I have received a request to read a um public hearing comment from someone who is no it's supposed that is not present. [0:58:32, 0:58:52]: Okay. Well w I guess if that's time permits. Yeah we'll yeah we'll we'll we'll get to that point. Okay, thank you. All right. So now with any any comments that are in a sense not in favor. And the left side. On the left side. Now what I on the left side if you want. So please stand please line up on the left side, right there right strip. So anybody else [0:58:52, 0:59:12]: Else that has negative comments or comments against this particular proposal, line up behind this lady here. All right. Line up behind her. All right, so we can get in line here, find out what's going on. Anyone else on the left side? Alright. Anybody in the middle for comments against this particular proposal? Please line up behind the ladies over here. Anybody in the middle? Any com uh negative comments, comments that they don't want this? [0:59:12, 0:59:14]: [3554.3, 3554.8]: All right. [0:59:15, 0:59:21]: My far right, anybody in far right? Any comments against this particular proposal? Please line up. Okay. [0:59:22, 0:59:29]: All right. I see only two individuals at this point. Ma'am, you can come to the podium, come to Mike. Speaking of Mike, give your name and address, please. [0:59:32, 0:59:43]: Connie Snow, 426, Chase Mary and Way, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. I live in Eagles Crest subdivision, which is right next to where this proposed development is. [0:59:43, 0:59:51]: Currently you guys are seeing if I if I'm correct, if I heard this correctly, five feet spacing from property lines or less than ten feet. [0:59:51, 0:59:52]: Something to that effect. [0:59:53, 0:59:58]: I don't know about you guys, but that's pretty close to our property lines. We need at least twenty feet or more. [0:59:59, 1:00:17]: In addition, we need a barrier wall that is eight feet or higher to protect our property. I don't know about the rest of you, but those that are bordering that land where you're going to annihilate it and rip the trees or anything that gives them any security or protection, giving them that limited. [1:00:18, 1:00:29]: property line away from them is going to allow people to enter their backyard with ease. In addition, we want gates added to our neighborhood if you're gonna add this development. [1:00:29, 1:00:34]: We feel unsafe as it is. It is going to increase crime, despite what you say. [1:00:34, 1:00:52]: It is. We need the roads to be improved before those developments here. The roads can nowhere near sustain any of these developments. In regards to the development that's being built on Patrick Henry by Henry County, correct me if I'm wrong, that is a senior uh senior living complex. [1:00:53, 1:00:57]: For fifty five and older, we are all okay with that. We really are. [1:00:57, 1:01:17]: What are we going to do about the schools and the influx of the students? Has anybody addressed this with the schools at all? Because they're going to get impacted heavily. Our kids are already suffering in these schools. The buses are short, the teachers are short staffed, the kids are suffering. Have any of these things been addressed? Have you addressed the increase of police and emergency? [1:01:17, 1:01:25]: Services that are needed. More importantly, if you don't widen that road, how are you going to get ambulances and fire trucks down there to help people when they need them? [1:01:26, 1:01:46]: You guys are making a really bad decision. In regards to annexation, I'm totally against it. I'm against the rezoning. I feel like you're going to rezone it so you can qualify for PUD, so you don't have to have the public hearings on the variances, so that you can cut out our commentary and our comments and our wants. It seems to be happening a lot here. It really does. [1:01:46, 1:01:52]: I get that you guys have a vision for the city and the county, but it's not our vision. [1:01:52, 1:01:53]: It is not. [1:01:54, 1:02:00]: There are tons of people who say it. It is y'all's vision. And your vision does not align with what we want. [1:02:01, 1:02:04]: Thank you for your comments, ma'am. Please name and address. [1:02:08, 1:02:10]: Hi, I'm Tasha Kemple. [1:02:10, 1:02:14]: I reside at four ten Chase Marion Way, McDonough, Georgia, three oh two five three. [1:02:15, 1:02:22]: Everything that Miss Connie Snow has stated, I agree with her. Um I don't agree with this. [1:02:22, 1:02:23]: Um [1:02:23, 1:02:40]: I was listening to the attorney and she stated something regarding grilling in your backyard with that little yard. I own apartments, so I know that the law states that you have to have a grill within so many feet from a building structure. [1:02:40, 1:02:47]: So therefore, I think that's something to look into because that's like really close. So if something catches on fire, the whole place is gone. [1:02:48, 1:02:49]: Um [1:02:49, 1:02:51]: I have reviews here from the [1:02:52, 1:02:55]: A villa apartment in Texas. [1:02:55, 1:02:58]: Um please get somebody out here to fix the problem. [1:02:59, 1:03:06]: There's other comments here that just they're negative and then there's a C rating for that area for um the crime. [1:03:07, 1:03:10]: Um, I'm just not aga I'm just not for this, so um [1:03:11, 1:03:16]: I think there should be some fencing if this development comes through, um, eight feet at least. [1:03:17, 1:03:18]: Around the whole duplex. [1:03:19, 1:03:22]: That's enough to keep them from coming into our neighborhood. [1:03:23, 1:03:26]: Um, yeah, I agree that they need to have a gate, which they do. [1:03:27, 1:03:28]: Um [1:03:28, 1:03:34]: I don't know if y'all are aware of this, but there is a natural spring on that property. [1:03:34, 1:03:36]: I don't know if they've checked it out. [1:03:36, 1:03:44]: I know that he said he had researched and did his thing. There is a spring. I have a spring that goes behind my house. [1:03:44, 1:03:50]: So it flows right behind there. So I don't know, it looks like it might be a flood zone area to me. [1:03:51, 1:03:53]: Just my opinion. Um [1:03:56, 1:03:58]: What are we gonna do about the traffic? [1:03:58, 1:04:03]: 'Cause getting out of my neighborhood is already a nightmare trying to get on the Patrick Henry. [1:04:04, 1:04:12]: Dealerships, more buildings. How am I gonna get out? Are we gonna have a roundabout, a light? What's gonna happen to fix this problem? [1:04:13, 1:04:17]: Um, that would be all for today, but thank y'all for taking time to listen to me. [1:04:17, 1:04:22]: Thank you. Um, Mr. Ryan and um Miss Battle, could you come back to the podium please? [1:04:25, 1:04:32]: Before did you want to Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, I'm sorry. Yeah, I forgot about that. Thank you very much. Go ahead and read that in the a record. I'm sorry about that. [1:04:32, 1:04:39]: From Miss Ann Fields, three two nine Chase, Marion Way, McDonough, Henry County. [1:04:40, 1:04:52]: The developer provided incorrect documentation, misleading the public and especially impacting the wrong direction. Uh won't you come to the mic up here, please? So we can all hear you, make sure we got you on on tape. [1:05:00, 1:05:02]: Yes, Mayor Council. This is from um [1:05:03, 1:05:05]: and fields. [1:05:05, 1:05:13]: The developer provided incorrect documentation, misleading the public and especially impacted homeowners in the wrong direction. [1:05:13, 1:05:15]: Traffic study [1:05:15, 1:05:35]: Very news specific, too much heavier traffic flows from bridges at Jodico and the stores and apartments there. And environmental studies were not provided for review prior to the public hearings. More concerning when does the public hear and see the traffic and environmental studies? Is it once something is [1:05:35, 1:05:55]: Approved. It is critical that more public input and developer meetings take place prior to the council approvals. More public meetings for these proposed developers and constituents was a verbal statement made from the chair of the Planning Commission at the September meeting. I believe this was ASCII Abdullah. There is [1:05:55, 1:06:15]: Is a stream out of the at the location of the retention pond, environmental study and appropriate review of the government agency, Army Corps of Engineers. Shouldn't the stream be looked at prior to the approvals? There absolutely should be no dumpsters anywhere along the properties of Chase Marion Wade. [1:06:15, 1:06:35]: Especially the one in the plan rendering. And that is my very own backyard, and I paid a large premium for this home. It will be it will devalue my property. There needs to be a 20-foot buffer between the buildings. If 10 feet disallow apartment grilling and other fire hazards, the wish [1:06:34, 1:06:40]: of the county in in their ordinance twenty three-eight seem to have a higher standard [1:06:41, 1:06:45]: were designed for life safety and uniformity in the entire community. [1:06:45, 1:06:49]: Commun county adaptate adaptation should be considered. [1:06:49, 1:07:09]: Better line of sight on this property for police protection of the development and overall resident safety. Rear exit for ambulance, especially fire safety maneuvering. Road rendering clearly is not two full wide lanes. It's enough to maneuver cars in and out of parking spaces. [1:07:09, 1:07:29]: but not maneuver and turn a fire truck around safely in the rear of the plan. I am speaking as a CDL licensed professional driver. Setbacks with the Henry County Overlay Program should be respected to Stockbridge. There should be consistency by the Henry County Overlay [1:07:29, 1:07:49]: Overlay for appearance, attractiveness, and consistency. Our county standards are minimum 60 feet from the right-of-way line, 15 feet sides, 20 foot rear, pursuant to RM Multifamily Residence, Section 2.0202G, multifamily and cluster homes. [1:07:49, 1:08:04]: Twenty foot setback is crowded and unattractive. A banner wall no less than eight foot be enacted to protect the existing homes from the crime and noise. A barrier is a must. [1:08:05, 1:08:25]: It if complete deforestation to our Chase Marion property line is taking place, it will indeed result in root damage and root shallow and canopy heavy pine and create an imminent hazard of tree collapse to the remaining trees, which relied on the forest. [1:08:25, 1:08:45]: To stabilize the grouping. Residents should be allowed to work with the developer to clear any trees of ours at a very reduced price. Example:$10 per tree, less than five diameter trunk,$50 per tree, anything larger. Eagle's Crest is requesting the developer create a gated. [1:08:44, 1:08:54]: community entrance for Eagles Crest to further protect the residents here. At that point, resident homeowners can create a small HOA with the intention of maintaining [1:08:55, 1:09:02]: these gates. We are organizing to work with Henry County on a neighborhood watch program in the immediate immediate future. [1:09:03, 1:09:23]: The homeowners along Marion Chase desire insurance coverage on their property supplied by the developer to protect against tree fall, water runoff, and damage of the property from the tampering vibrations. What is the street lighting and landscaping plans as well as within the development itself? I found that. [1:09:23, 1:09:35]: Fail start bridges recommendations to developers to file a PUD are m misleading as that is too is a tool and the zoning aids and to avoid necessary discussion. [1:09:36, 1:09:37]: Thank you, Ms. Holy, appreciate it. [1:09:38, 1:09:41]: And uh now Ryan and Miss Battle, could you come back to the podium please? [1:09:48, 1:10:08]: I will see if we can answer some of these particular questions. I was I'm I'm assuming that you took some notes. I was taking a few notes here as well. So let's uh see if we can answer a few of these questions here. Um this property line issue and reference to the set uh the property line from the properties community to the the Eagles Crest community, and what's what's the what's the distance, the actual distance? [1:10:08, 1:10:16]: There. There's a 25 foot buffer requirement between the two different zoning designations. [1:10:17, 1:10:21]: Okay. Hold on a second. Make sure we're right on this. Hold on. [1:10:21, 1:10:21]: Mm. [1:10:24, 1:10:25]: It's twenty five eight. [1:10:26, 1:10:32]: To R M? Yeah I mean R M. [1:10:33, 1:10:50]: What kind of buffet feature on that? From their back to that? The ten foot um buffer because I don't think there was a requirement for a buffer between the because they're zoned for multifamily. [1:10:56, 1:11:16]: What you he's addressing that issue. Um our understanding is that the buffer requirement is in fact 10 feet. Um from the rear of the actual unit to the property line is probably about 20 feet. Um what you have behind there is the green space that is enclosed. So there's fencing there. [1:11:16, 1:11:36]: There, we will also have an eight-foot fence along the perimeter of the entire site, except on the side where the rehab facility is located, we'd like to drop it to six. If we want it eight around the entire thing, that's fine. But along the residential portion, which we can show here, everything adjacent to Chase. [1:11:36, 1:11:38]: Marion would be eight feet in height. [1:11:39, 1:11:44]: Okay. All right. So Mayor, I'm sorry. I I'm just a little confused. [1:11:44, 1:11:58]: Can you repeat that again? What's the total amount from from the but from the from the rear from the rear to to the from the rear of the house to the to the property line is about twenty feet. About twenty feet. Okay. That's what I really wanted. Yes, twenty feet. [1:11:59, 1:12:19]: All right, now the um okay, obviously it's a gated community and you mentioned and we'll have a fence around the entire parade. So not just the gate at the front. Right. Excuse me, I'm sorry. And but you also mentioned you've already relocated the dumpsters to a different from the original plan we relo relocated the dumpsters. So the dumpsters are not in any type of um I guess any type of violation. [1:12:18, 1:12:22]: [4350.0, 4350.3]: Mm-hmm. [1:12:30, 1:12:50]: On where they have it depicted at they have a large berm on that side that's like very hilly. So the six foot fence will be on top of the hill'cause they have like a large elevation on encompass on that side that that'll be facing encompass. That [1:12:50, 1:13:10]: That appeared that's where the dumpsters are gonna be, correct? With the new rendition, Miss Battle. Correct. They're gonna be on the opposite side. On the encompassed side, there's an elevation change of about maybe about twenty-five or thirty feet. So the feet, the fence would be at the top on that side. So six feet would seem appropriate because it's at the top of it like a thirty [1:13:10, 1:13:12]: Yeah. On that side. [1:13:14, 1:13:33]: So that'll be like a thirty-six feet. And I would think that any thirty-six feet buffer, basically. Right. Between from one to the next. Right. Okay. Because in cover sits down like this and then you got to go up a hill in order to get to this. [1:13:35, 1:13:36]: All the same. [1:13:40, 1:13:40]: Okay. [1:13:41, 1:13:43]: So you want to be able to [1:13:44, 1:13:50]: not being able to interpret that right here because I don't know what T means'cause it says only just [1:13:50, 1:13:50]: Support. [1:13:54, 1:13:56]: All of the situations. [1:14:00, 1:14:14]: But these are these are indicating office, institutional, commercial, industrial. Here's the multifamily one right here, and that's R S R. This is yeah, but this is the adjacent district, is R R S R. [1:14:15, 1:14:17]: Basic district is already on device. [1:14:19, 1:14:23]: Why would that be twenty-five feet if it's not just one feeder because we are possible family development? [1:14:24, 1:14:26]: So we're under this category. [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: All right. [1:14:31, 1:14:35]: So that means adjacent w district R if it's not an argument then that would have enough. [1:14:37, 1:14:43]: I wouldn't fall into that category. Why would I automatically fall when I've got a category safe? [1:14:44, 1:15:04]: All right. So um we we have the at least uh thus far the the separation from the proper line from the fence of proper line solved now? So I think that staff and I have a differing of opinion with regards to the width of the buffer. [1:15:04, 1:15:24]: It is agreed that we will address that issue during LDP or during land development. But our understanding, because the property adjacent to us in the county is zoned RM, which is actually an apartment designation, it's it allows for a higher intensity in Henry on the [1:15:23, 1:15:43]: Henry County side, along with I think their land use designation as well, that we are under no obligation for the 25 feet because what's adjacent to it says RR or SR, which is single-family residential, or RR as a zoning district, which are zoning districts. So that's how we enter. [1:15:43, 1:16:03]: interpreted it, but we will have to go back and address that particular issue because that would significantly impact that side of the site because we would have to adjust some units, maybe even lose some units on that side. So we've got to make I'll have to ask my client if they want to hold quite honestly or continue to proceed. [1:16:03, 1:16:05]: This evening on that particular issue. [1:16:06, 1:16:25]: Yeah, clearly said a question. You had you had uh you already clarified that, right? What? About the distance between the back the property the back from the back of the of the house, of the the unit of the property of back of the unit to the let me let me it's crest. Yeah, it's easier to show it on the on the site page. You said it was about twenty feet. [1:16:26, 1:16:40]: Okay. So I just wanna make it clear'cause I don't want there to be any confusion about what I was trying to say. Is there and there wait before you do that, there's a green space at there's like a you the property has a a [1:16:41, 1:16:46]: gate of in a fence and then there's s green space. Correct. [1:16:47, 1:16:55]: And then what's and then the back of the house. Right. And so what we're saying is that there's roughly twenty feet [1:16:55, 1:16:57]: Between if this is the fence [1:16:58, 1:17:01]: And this is where the back of the house is. There's roughly twenty feet. [1:17:02, 1:17:19]: Between the back of the house and the fence. Back of which house? The back of the of the units that we're building. Of the units. The back of our units. And then back there is where their backyard is with their with their fencing. Okay. And then beyond that will be the fence that will be put up for [1:17:20, 1:17:37]: The a around the entire primary fence around the entire back of the project. Okay. So there are two fences for your community. One for the property and then one again for to to mark the boundaries. Rounded line between the buffer. Okay. All right. [1:17:42, 1:17:46]: I just wanna make sure. All right. Well I have a few more here for [1:17:47, 1:17:51]: So you probably don't know what to do. [1:17:52, 1:17:53]: That's only roughly about twenty feet. [1:17:58, 1:18:00]: It doesn't have to be worked out now. [1:18:00, 1:18:01]: Yeah. [1:18:02, 1:18:04]: But if I get it rezo I gotta get [1:18:06, 1:18:07]: It does like a good person. [1:18:08, 1:18:09]: Tem feet. [1:18:12, 1:18:29]: Okay. We're gonna have to resolve this particular issue with regards to the twenty five feet because if staff is indicating that the buffer is in fact twenty five feet when it was our understanding that was only ten feet, that's a significant change. And so we would have to ask for this to be deferred to next month. I wouldn't have any choice. [1:18:31, 1:18:48]: All right, further more questions here. You mentioned about the grill. The grill is is in some type of we're just saying that no, it's not a built in grill. We're just saying people would have the ability if they wanted to have a little barbecue grill or whatever, like you do in in in the back of your own home. Okay. Okay. But it's not a a installed grill. [1:18:48, 1:19:08]: Okay. All right. I gotcha. I got you understand that. Okay. In reference to um uh well anything I if I understand correctly, state law uh doesn't allow you to utilize the uh potential overcrowding of schools or of uh the expansion of any type of roads as a decision making factor. [1:19:08, 1:19:28]: for communities such as this. Now the the school system of course as well as the city along the county would have to and go ahead through the process to try to improve roads as we need to improve them. But it's it's I believe it's not a it's they can't use this as a those two things as a as a denial per se. [1:19:28, 1:19:39]: by the state law is my understanding. And of course if that's not right we have an attorney here and a city manager here to straighten me out if that's the case. Um and I would think that any improvements that [1:19:39, 1:19:49]: they wanna make in the community, Eagles Crest community says is inside the county and not with inside the city, I would think that those improvements would have to be negotiated with the county. [1:19:49, 1:20:09]: That correctly. Right. Well, the county and and the county, I I I can just tell you, having worked for counties, they're not gonna come in and put in a gate and do other things of that nature. If the community wants to, because it also impacts their roads, so that means that all their streets now become private streets, which means that they would have to take over the operation of the maintenance and comp and uh repair of those streets. [1:20:09, 1:20:29]: And they would have to put up their own gate and they would have to maintain that gate. It is not as simple as saying, hey, somebody just go, you know, put up the gate. It has a lot of implications. So and that would be beyond the scope of this board to be able to do because that community is in unincorporated Henry County. Understand. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask a question. [1:20:29, 1:20:49]: Go ahead. Go ahead. So Ms. Let's try to understand where we are now and what the disagreement is. Coming back would not be advisable. So our our understanding and our um engineer and the process that we have gone through and our review of the code was that [1:20:49, 1:21:09]: That we proposed a 10-foot buffer along the perimeter of the site. What staff is indicating he can he can set forth, but our interpretation was that the property adjacent is RM, which is it says the adjacent zoning district. [1:21:09, 1:21:29]: In section 4.6.3 of your code. And it makes reference to manufactured home parks, duplex developments, or multifamily development. And it says if those are next to something zoned RR or SR, then it's a 25-foot buffer. And we're and they're not zoned. [1:21:29, 1:21:40]: zoned R R or S R. So from our perspective, we're not we are not subject to that. He then said that but there has another section that says all other [1:21:41, 1:22:01]: All other situations is twenty five and I'm like that we our situation is defined. So just putting us into the category of all other situations does not appear, in my opinion, to be applicable. So that would mean that everybody everywhere would have to do twenty five feet. I don't think that that's what was intended in the code. Okay. [1:22:01, 1:22:03]: Well let me just say this too, if I could. [1:22:04, 1:22:24]: Well go ahead. Certainly that's not what's been not what that's not what's uh being uh addressed over at Winding Creek and the Magnolia subdivision. There's there's there's a fence there and then there's a single family home right behind the fence. It's not 25 feet. So that's not what they did with the winding creek. [1:22:24, 1:22:34]: Winding Creek townhomes that are existing and then the Magnolia subdivision right behind it. We had to go back and ask them to install a fence because there wasn't even a fence there at that point. [1:22:35, 1:22:47]: I'm aware of those situations, yeah. Um go right ahead. So I'm looking at the properties and it's R M, R R, properties to the north are R M, properties to the south are R R. [1:22:48, 1:22:56]: Properties to property I'm sorry, R M and R A for to the north. Property in the case. R R and C three to the south. [1:22:56, 1:22:57]: Hold on. [1:22:57, 1:23:05]: R M to the east and R R O I to the West. Is that correct? [1:23:07, 1:23:13]: Sorry, I'm trying to go back. That's on page two. Yeah, yeah, they didn't put up the staff report. [1:23:18, 1:23:20]: 'Cause we're looking at Wizard's time for that. [1:23:20, 1:23:25]: And I have another question. We keep talking about these residents as if [1:23:31, 1:23:31]: Um [1:23:37, 1:23:40]: As you know, uh [1:23:42, 1:23:44]: Uh there is an issue. [1:23:45, 1:23:59]: with other communities and and constituents getting to know each other as if something's going to be someone's gonna be in danger um from one community to the next. It's kind of offensive. [1:24:00, 1:24:01]: To me. [1:24:02, 1:24:05]: Um I I I um [1:24:07, 1:24:17]: As a single mother, as an attorney, as a as a a a a syndicate a woman who went through a divorce and needed a place to stay and needed to rent. [1:24:17, 1:24:21]: And still had a a fairly great income. [1:24:21, 1:24:27]: This would have been perfect for me at that time, but instead I was homeless and had to rely on a neighbor. [1:24:29, 1:24:30]: And I'm okay. [1:24:31, 1:24:33]: So you know, people are human. [1:24:33, 1:24:53]: There are teachers, educators, officers, people that need housing. These are single family dwellings that are ranch style that senior citizens, seniors would love to have. They will go. These are homes. These are are not apart apartment complexes. The county had zoned some of these places a a high density. [1:24:53, 1:24:53]: Yeah. [1:24:55, 1:24:58]: But these are single family homes and dwellings and [1:24:58, 1:25:02]: No offense to anyone, but I want, I hope, if you hear me. [1:25:03, 1:25:05]: Loud and clear. [1:25:06, 1:25:11]: You know, eighteen hundred dollars for one bedroom is not cheap. [1:25:12, 1:25:21]: Two twenty two hundred dollars for a two-bedroom is not cheap, and twenty-five hundred dollars for a three-bedroom is not cheap. [1:25:22, 1:25:36]: Imagine the type of people that will live in those type of homes, young urban professionals or seniors who want ranch style homes. These are single family homes, they're not apartment complexes. [1:25:37, 1:25:40]: And I want us to stop. [1:25:40, 1:25:44]: Um, you know, I I hope that we stop judging other people. [1:25:45, 1:25:52]: before you get to know them or know who they are. Because the terms they, them [1:25:53, 1:25:58]: Be like Clayton County, Uff, someone had to remove trees to build your home. [1:25:59, 1:26:13]: And as a God fearing woman, as a mother of two girls who had to go through a divorce and live on my own and try to make it after a really bad car accident, this would have been perfect for me. [1:26:14, 1:26:16]: So them and they would have been me. [1:26:17, 1:26:18]: You're a councilwoman. [1:26:20, 1:26:21]: And I just hope. [1:26:22, 1:26:24]: That you guys consider that in the future. [1:26:27, 1:26:31]: As a whole, as an embodied you know, we we've got to do better. [1:26:32, 1:26:34]: Because people have to have a place to live. [1:26:35, 1:26:37]: And yes, you're right, we need to plan. [1:26:37, 1:26:42]: We need to plan for infrastructure. We are so there with you. We do need to plan for roads. [1:26:43, 1:26:47]: We but people are here and we need places, we need housing. We [1:26:48, 1:26:55]: Are working and we're trying to do what we think is in the best interest of Sotbridge. [1:26:57, 1:27:10]: That doesn't mean I've made up my mind. I wanna make sure that we uh you know, based off of what m Mr. Uh Ryan states, if he says that the city recommends a twenty five foot buffer and we need to, you know [1:27:10, 1:27:17]: go back and and you guys have a you know come back, that's that's fine. We figured it out. Okay. But what I'm saying to you is [1:27:18, 1:27:21]: Please in the future consider that. [1:27:21, 1:27:26]: Consider that we have officers and teachers and people'cause eighteen hundred dollars [1:27:28, 1:27:36]: We have subdivisions now. I don't know how much you pay in your mortgage, but you know, I don't want to pay for a one-bedroom house for$1,800. That's a lot of money. [1:27:39, 1:27:44]: So and for it to be maintained and well kept, I think that is um [1:27:45, 1:27:55]: And not to get off topic, but i I get a little in my you know, it kinda struck me the wrong way. And so I just want you to know that um we are one [1:27:57, 1:27:59]: Um, I don't want an eight foot wall. [1:28:00, 1:28:04]: As if someone's enclosed in some type of combined location. [1:28:05, 1:28:11]: I have no desire to do that. If you want a gate in your community, put one in it. But [1:28:12, 1:28:23]: This is a very nice establishment for mix you and in addition to that, but have mixed use developments. And we're growing and I'd rather grow in a quality smart growth. [1:28:25, 1:28:32]: than to grow and just throw up apartments everywhere or houses everywhere and then people are already parking on the sides of the street. [1:28:34, 1:28:40]: So please consider that. Consider what these uh the cost of this. It's not a a nine hundred dollar mortgage a month. [1:28:42, 1:28:46]: Thank you. [1:28:47, 1:29:03]: Uh the twenty five foot buffer doesn't apply in this case since the um the applicant is seeking a rezoning to PUD and PUD is concept based and what the council will vote is to accept their concept plan during this process. So if the council votes to accept it, then their plan is is sufficient. [1:29:03, 1:29:16]: Okay. Good deal. Mr. Black, go ahead, please. Well, I I was gonna uh hold off because you you pretty much answered uh half of it. Yes, sir. Uh for is when is separate and his P U D. Um [1:29:17, 1:29:31]: But when I think we're kinda we're near the buffer anyway, but it it's the way you're looking at the looking at it and f what it sounded like to me because when you talked about from the house to the gate to the gate to the next property, I mean [1:29:32, 1:29:39]: But when you talk about the house to the gate and then gate it and then you talk about the buffering between that gate it [1:29:39, 1:29:59]: Yeah. Um how do you get in it? I mean you can't get no more contained than that. Right. And and the other thing that um that um Mr. Andr Anderson and I discussed is that um those other properties are outside of the jurisdictional boundaries of the city, and so the code section actually applies to those properties that are within the city. So the [1:29:59, 1:30:11]: The the buffer that we are providing is the ten um foot buffer plus the green space area in between. Um so it does work out to be roughly about twenty, twenty five feet. All right, good deal. [1:30:12, 1:30:14]: Uh my question, Mayor, if you don't mind. Go ahead, sir. [1:30:15, 1:30:21]: management because of that buffer being if it's ten feet wide. [1:30:22, 1:30:29]: Maintaining that buffer where be maintained also. Property management company must maintain. [1:30:31, 1:30:34]: Okay. And they will maintain the fence as well. [1:30:34, 1:30:35]: Okay. [1:30:35, 1:30:55]: They are they are literally responsible not only for their fence, but even the fence that the homeowner, the um the renter will will have. They are responsible for everything. Everything belongs to the property owner, which and the property management company is representing the owner. So you're just renting. You don't get to put up your own fence, you don't get to put up [1:30:56, 1:31:12]: You know, your own grass or whatever, you get what they give you and then they take care and maintain it to make sure that it stays at a quality and standard that they represent. What last question, Mayor, if you if you would I'm just saying because I'm I I look at developments and then I look uh [1:31:12, 1:31:16]: Ten to twenty, twenty five years, thirty years down the line. [1:31:17, 1:31:24]: Um when you talk about home ownership and you talk about those covenants that are set for home ownership and we have management. [1:31:25, 1:31:30]: Uh the homeowners that themselves hold the management company accountable. [1:31:30, 1:31:36]: But when you're talking rental property, what accountability is gonna be held toward the management company? That's why I'm trying to make sure that [1:31:36, 1:31:56]: That that that the common areas are maintained and what what what accountability is bec how you h maintain countries. It's not like a regular homeowner where if you don't cut your graph a little bit, oh you know, whatever. [1:31:56, 1:32:16]: Around here, my assumption is that this city, as many cities and counties across the state have done, have put into effect policies and procedures on how they want their multifamily housing to be maintained. And you all have the right to enforce that these properties be maintained. [1:32:16, 1:32:34]: maintained well, they'd be up kept well. You have one point of contact, so you don't have to go, for example, in a situation where you're in a neighborhood and you've got multiple people that aren't doing what they're supposed to do. Now you gotta go to five or six different folks. No, you go to one party and you hold them accountable for whatever is happening within that community. [1:32:36, 1:32:38]: Okay. Um [1:32:39, 1:32:56]: It was mentioned about a flood zone. Anything along like Um that's not true. We've done our research with regards to that. Um also had a wetland study. There is a creek at the very top, um and we have to be outside of the the buffer there, but our engineer has made sure that we are in compliance. [1:32:56, 1:33:03]: Okay. And environmental studies is that uh Yeah, they've they've already conducted those and they found no. [1:33:03, 1:33:13]: All right. All right. Council, do you have any other questions for uh these two folks in front of us at this point? Mayor. I'm sorry. Miss Barber, you had a question? [1:33:14, 1:33:15]: Go ahead. [1:33:15, 1:33:16]: Um [1:33:17, 1:33:20]: What is the price point of these? [1:33:21, 1:33:35]: So the units, um the rental price will be one thousand eight hundred and fifty for a one bedroom, two thousand two hundred for a two-bedroom, two thousand five hundred for a three-bedroom. [1:33:37, 1:33:39]: Thank you. Um [1:33:41, 1:33:46]: The next thing, trees. And I know the comment that [1:33:47, 1:34:07]: Um the city clerk read mentioned about the trees and st stability of the trees once they're removed, all the other trees around it. So we've actually uh putting in a ten foot buffer, which means that we technically aren't supposed to remove anything from that area, or if we do, we have to go through the city arbors. [1:34:07, 1:34:22]: we will have to put in our tree plan and comply with whatever requirements are there in terms of um preservation. But within that 10 feet, we will be doing everything we can to save those trees within that 10 feet area. [1:34:22, 1:34:40]: And then when we put in the fence, the question will be whether staff will want us to put the fence on the inside or outside of that ten feet, depending upon if we're impacting any um tree roots along that that path. But that is something that developers and builders go through all the time and having to navigate that space. [1:34:41, 1:34:42]: Thank you. [1:34:44, 1:35:04]: Any other questions? Uh I just have a statement. Go ahead, sir. I I just want to say I want to thank you, Councilwoman Gantt, for making those statements. We we just have to get away from judging people and understanding that we know that these things are very emotional for a lot of folks, and these decisions are very tough. [1:35:03, 1:35:23]: For many of us, but we're following the city's comprehensive plan that we approved and we're moving forward with it. And I and I said this at the last zoning. See, my daughter rents here in Henry County. She couldn't afford a$350,000 house, so she needed someplace to stay. [1:35:24, 1:35:32]: These, it's not like uh we're running up there and we're just throwing up apartments right and left anywhere. We have found out that's what. [1:35:33, 1:35:50]: That is a needed product in the community. And certainly it's something that we don't judge everybody on. I'm certainly gonna not use these negative comments and and turse them toward my daughter or my son who both rent. And to understand that [1:35:50, 1:36:10]: People are people. And when we make these statements and we throw them out in public, that's how it comes at it. Because people are watching this. And I had somebody say online to me, I'm a renter. I'm not all bad. Why why are all these people downing me? Why are they saying that I'm gonna run down the community? I I I I've I've [1:36:10, 1:36:30]: I I don't know why they say that. Now certainly we trying to maintain the balance and we try to do that uh on a basis in each single family neighborhood that we do and everything to make sure that we make sure that that neighbor that single family neighborhood is maintained as mu mu uh owner occupied uh for the most. [1:36:29, 1:36:49]: Standpoint. But certainly there are going to be some rentals in these particular neighborhoods. And we just got to get away from judging people based on what they do. I know I rented. I don't know. I think almost everybody did. So at some point, we certainly want to make sure that we're treating people based on who they are, not necessarily. [1:36:49, 1:37:09]: Stereotyping them in this particular way. I certainly think that this development is an excellent development, quality development, and that we've done what we needed to do in order to move it forward. We're trying to grow as a city, and we want to make sure that we do that. These annexations are the way that we're doing that. [1:37:09, 1:37:15]: we grow and to move move forward. So based on that, uh with the conditions [1:37:16, 1:37:36]: Go ahead, go ahead. That have been specified by the staff, all of them being outlined, including uh adding the flock cameras to Okay, Mr. Thomas has some words that he needs to say. I'm sorry. I I did want to speak, uh I I believe you're getting ready to make a motion. Go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry. Let me let me let me let me add mention this gentleman. [1:37:36, 1:37:44]: I have we have to have three separate votes now. It's not one vote. It's three separate votes, all right? So we gotta go through that three separate votes here. But go ahead, Mr. Thomas. [1:37:44, 1:37:48]: Well, I I I just really just wanted to reiterate and a and [1:37:49, 1:37:54]: things have sorta got very sensitive and and and and rightfully so. [1:37:54, 1:37:57]: And I know Mayor you sorta touched on that. [1:37:58, 1:38:05]: And and I think Mrs. Gantt and Councilman Alexander and and I think all of us ha sort of have reiterated [1:38:05, 1:38:09]: that these are not easy decisions. They're very sensitive. [1:38:09, 1:38:15]: And just listening to all of the comments, you know, we do understand. [1:38:15, 1:38:19]: about traffic. We get caught I get caught up in traffic. [1:38:20, 1:38:24]: With us having kids in the school, we understand the school issue. [1:38:24, 1:38:25]: But as was stated, the [1:38:26, 1:38:27]: The state [1:38:28, 1:38:30]: Do not allow us. [1:38:31, 1:38:32]: To use [1:38:33, 1:38:39]: those issues and making a decision. And and re reason why I'm emphasizing this because [1:38:39, 1:38:42]: Every development here in public hearing is [1:38:42, 1:38:47]: The same issues sort of come about traffic and about schools. [1:38:48, 1:38:49]: But I just want to say that [1:38:50, 1:38:53]: We can't use those issues. [1:38:54, 1:39:00]: in a decision that we make, we understand those issues truly. [1:39:00, 1:39:03]: But we cannot use those issues. [1:39:03, 1:39:06]: in making the decision. So we have to look at [1:39:07, 1:39:08]: The other [1:39:09, 1:39:21]: ingredients and other things in making these decisions. But they are not easy decisions, they are not rough um decisions, and we take in all consideration so [1:39:22, 1:39:25]: A lot has been said, so I don't have anything to add to the [1:39:25, 1:39:32]: overall discussion, but I just wanted to re-emphasize that to the point that we are sensitive. [1:39:33, 1:39:37]: to the needs of all citizens and where you live. [1:39:37, 1:39:57]: Because where I live, there are issues that I don't really agree with, even though I understand it, I don't agree with it, but we have to just continue to move on. So I just just wanna say we are sensitive to all of the issues when these issues come to us, and I just wanna say that. So mayor I yield back. [1:39:57, 1:40:17]: Problem. Okay, so I think there's all the comments at this point. So what we have three separate uh uh votes have to go here. So first one would be annexation case AX2023-03. Once again located Council District 5. Consideration of the request of annexation of property 77 and 87 Holloway Road with frontage on Parker Patrick Henry Park. [1:40:17, 1:40:23]: Parkway located in unincorporated Henry County into Stockbridge City limits. Is there a motion to accept that? [1:40:23, 1:40:24]: Uh so much. [1:40:24, 1:40:29]: So moved. Okay, is there a second? Second. Mr. Blount, second. All in favor, please indicate. [1:40:30, 1:40:37]: Un damage decision. Okay, vote number two. Comprehensive plan amendment case CP dash two zero two three-zero three. [1:40:37, 1:40:40]: Council District 5, consideration to request a comprehensive plan amendment. [1:40:41, 1:40:55]: to assign the future land use designation of high density residential to property seventy seven and eighty seven Holloway Road, frontage on Patrick Henry Parkway, located in unincorporated Henry County, and if and after parcels are annexed into the city limits of stopper. Is there a motion to accept that? [1:40:56, 1:41:05]: Yes, I want to ask you a question, Mr. And I want you to reiterate. This is consistent with the surrounding communities, Ryan. Yes, sir. Uh so move. Sir second. [1:41:06, 1:41:10]: I second. Miss Blount uh Gantt second then. All favor, please indicate. [1:41:11, 1:41:13]: Up opposed. [1:41:14, 1:41:17]: I don't know. I'm I'm looking and looking ahead. It's all favor? [1:41:17, 1:41:24]: Okay. Okay, all polls? Abstain. Abstain. 401. Okay. Uh [1:41:27, 1:41:47]: Okay, and also the rezoning case here, rezoning case RZ two zero two three-04 located once again Council District 5 to reassign to excuse me a request to reassign the zoning district, a PUD plan unit development to two parcels, 7787 Holloway Road, frontage on Patrick Henry, located on incorporated Henry. [1:41:47, 1:41:52]: County and yeah and and after the parcels are annexed in the city of limits to stop there. Please. [1:41:53, 1:42:13]: Uh we we got that change in there about the y yes, can you just uh add um with the conditions negotiated with staff between the door? Yes, uh motion to approve with the conditions uh uh negotiated with staff. And clerk, you miss uh holiday, you have down all the conditions, including the six foot interior. [1:42:13, 1:42:16]: All right, so move. [1:42:17, 1:42:18]: Okay, is there a second? [1:42:20, 1:42:25]: Is there a second? A second mayor, but I want to comment before. Okay, uh Mr. Blount second Dan and has additional comment. Go ahead, sir. [1:42:26, 1:42:32]: I just wanna say before we get off of this mayor, it it would behoove me to not say something. You know, when I moved to Henry County [1:42:33, 1:42:37]: Never thought I'd live here before in my life, but I love it here. [1:42:38, 1:42:40]: And one of the things that I've saw in Henry County is that [1:42:42, 1:42:44]: You almost had two sides. [1:42:44, 1:42:50]: Like a railroad track split into communities. And since I've been here, I've seen the community try to be split up. [1:42:51, 1:42:54]: But I see so much opportunity here in Henry County. [1:42:55, 1:43:00]: But one of the things about Henry County, I think that we should open it up and accept everybody because it's a time when [1:43:01, 1:43:12]: you yourselves before you got where you was going, some of us, that you wanted to l live somewhere, not that that was conducive that said, I gotta live over here'cause I'm a renter. [1:43:12, 1:43:14]: But I'm living over here because it's a good community. [1:43:15, 1:43:19]: That's the opportunity that I've d this development is giving people to live somewhere that's a good community. [1:43:20, 1:43:31]: And to think that we need ten foot fences and we need to make sure we keep them where they are, the renters, those bad renters where they are, is apostrous to me. [1:43:31, 1:43:35]: I was a renter myself, and I think I've always been a good person. [1:43:35, 1:43:38]: Whether I'm renting or whether I'm buying, I'm buying now. [1:43:39, 1:43:44]: So I think that to live in a good community, who wouldn't want that? Good schools, good areas. [1:43:44, 1:43:45]: You know? [1:43:46, 1:43:49]: I I think the deers are doing enough to find somewhere else to live. [1:43:50, 1:43:55]: So uh I'm that's why I'm I just wanted to say I'm for it because I think this is a uh awesome county. [1:43:55, 1:43:59]: And it's a awesome opportunity for those that want to live in a decent area. [1:44:00, 1:44:02]: And raise their children in decent school system. [1:44:03, 1:44:20]: And to be able to walk out the door and say, hey, I'm living here in Henry County amongst the ones that said, hey, they're gonna live here and they've invested here. That's all I gotta say. All right. So I just wanna clarify because the applicant made a request that staff agree with. [1:44:20, 1:44:23]: The combination section [1:44:23, 1:44:43]: Yes, we we agree. Okay. And then the eight foot Holloway Road. And then the flock cameras at both entrances. That's what was added. Yes. And then the re the uh the new um relocation uh staff needs to agree with the new site. [1:44:43, 1:44:45]: Yes, we agree. Thank you. [1:44:45, 1:44:52]: Thank you, Ms. Holliday. On that note, the motion was made in in second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. All posed. [1:44:53, 1:44:57]: I'd stay. Okay, four zero one. Motion passed. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Appreciate it. [1:44:58, 1:45:13]: We'll move on to the next uh we'll close out this particular public hearing, this piece of this. We have two more to go. Next one is comprehensive plan amendment for KCP KCP-2023-04 and Council District 2. [1:45:13, 1:45:33]: Now this what I've been informed, this is consideration and request of comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use designation of three parcels on Davison Parkway and Walfler Way, from low density vertical mix use to high density residential to allow for residential development. But I've been informed that we we don't have to do this because this was actually already approved. [1:45:33, 1:45:53]: By our comp plan that we recently approved, and so it's already in compliance. So this is this is a non-issue for us to vote to vote on this evening. But what we have to vote on would be the next issue that deals with rezoning case RZ 2023-05 in Council District 2. Consider once in once again, consideration of a request to rezone 3. [1:45:53, 1:46:05]: three parcels on Davison Parkway and walked away from C three heavy commercial to PUD Plan Unit Development to allow for a mixed residential development. Mr uh Ryan Anderson, please. [1:46:05, 1:46:15]: Thank you. Um before I begin I would like to say that this um this particular piece of property was originally part of the um the Rees Creek. [1:46:15, 1:46:35]: uh plan the original Reeves Creek one plan it was the portion that was set aside for um the commercial and the other um convention center and other type uses and the applicant is proposing to um build a c a residential development at this site. If you take a look at the slide [1:46:35, 1:46:37]: Slide on the film here, here's an aerial photo of the property. [1:46:42, 1:46:46]: This is area photo of the second property. It's it's actually three parcels. [1:46:49, 1:46:55]: And here's the aerial photo of the third parcel that fronts on Davison Parkway. [1:46:55, 1:46:57]: Here's a copy of the zoning map. [1:47:05, 1:47:07]: Here's a copy of future land use map. [1:47:10, 1:47:25]: The case facts. Uh the applicant is DR Horden, represented by Miss Tiffany Hogan. Like I previously mentioned it, the property consists of three parcels at Davison Parkway and Walterway, consisting of seventy-nine point one six acres. [1:47:26, 1:47:37]: You got one large parcel parcel that's fronts on Waterway and the small parcel also fronts on Waterway. And you have another small parcel consisting of one point three acres that front on Davidson Parkway. [1:47:40, 1:47:41]: Yeah. [1:47:42, 1:48:02]: The surrounding uses to the north you got vacant land, to the northwest you have uh Clayton County, to the south you got vacant land. And um it was a reason the vacant land to the south was recently approved for the um Rees Creek 2 project, consisting of over 1,300 homes, uh a large-scale PUD. [1:48:02, 1:48:22]: Southeast, you got the automobile refurbishing business called Drive Time. To the east, you got North Bridge Crossing 1 subdivision. And to the west, you got Interstate 675, 75, and 675. The existing property zone, the existing property zone C3, and the applicant is proposing to zone to go to PUD. [1:48:22, 1:48:36]: Surrounding zoning, to the north you got L I, R, and S R. To the south you got S R and D T. To the east you got DT and C1. And to the west you got suburban residential. [1:48:42, 1:49:00]: The large parcel has roughly three-fourths of a mile of frontage along Interstate 75 and 675. It contains Reek Creek near the eastern boundary of about ten acres of restricted use commercial and a lift station which is owned by the city of Stockbridge with an easement across Walterway. The property is mostly level and wooded. [1:49:04, 1:49:12]: The applicant is currently proposing to build 296 units, 168 single-family detached, and 128 townhomes. [1:49:13, 1:49:25]: The the current um land use designation is low density. Um and the applicant would have to combine the three parcels to form one parcel of land. [1:49:27, 1:49:47]: Zoning history. Um a portion of the subject property was rezoned in 2003 to RM for a condominium development. Um North Bridge Crossing DRI two eighty-four was approved for residential office and commercial uses. And uh development agreement for North Bridge Crossing was prepared in 2008. [1:49:47, 1:49:48]: and three and had four amendments. [1:49:50, 1:49:59]: Uh another rezoning was RZ 0912. It rezoned the property to C3 for commercial retail and office uses. [1:50:00, 1:50:04]: And like I previously mentioned, the property was part of the Rees Creek One D R I. [1:50:08, 1:50:12]: This is the original um Rees Creek site plan. [1:50:21, 1:50:39]: This is the LCI study that was done on behalf of the city back in 2012. And um it basically recommends that this particular property remains as um an activity center and remains as a commer remain as commercial uses. [1:50:41, 1:50:50]: Here's uh a rendering of what could be potentially located there by that was uh done on behalf of the LCI study. [1:50:54, 1:51:12]: The LCI study called for 1.5 million square feet of Class A office space, two full service hotels, 250 to 300,000 square feet of retail space adjacent to I-75, 750 to 1,000 units of high quality multifamily development. [1:51:14, 1:51:20]: three hundred and five hundred three hundred thousand and five hundred three hundred to five hundred units of senior housing or assistant living. [1:51:21, 1:51:28]: 1,500 housing units, um, twenty to twenty-five acres of that as a park and long-term parking decks alone. [1:51:28, 1:51:29]: I seventy five. [1:51:34, 1:51:48]: This is also another shot of the conceptual site plan that the applicant submitted on 12 8, 2023, a revised site plan where they removed um 15 uh residential units. [1:51:56, 1:52:16]: This was a um a conflicting case um on behalf of staff. We were kind of conflicted because anytime you get the opportunity to add uh single-family detached residential um uses to your uh city is is is considered a pretty good thing. However, this is one of the last few remaining large tracks. [1:52:16, 1:52:36]: Of land that's zoned commercial in the city, although it doesn't have ideal frontage. There have been several commercial development experts that say that the property will have a hard time being developed as commercial, and that what led to the applicant considering this proposal. [1:52:36, 1:52:56]: To develop uh residential uses on the lot. But back in um in July of of this year, when we had the Reeds Creek 2 hearing, um, staff that said that um it would try to protect this land as commercial due to the to the previously mentioned previous previously mentioned things that I stated. [1:52:56, 1:53:16]: Such as being one of the last few remaining tracts of commercial land left. And in the in the area, we have um approximate we have over 2,000 residential units planned and with little or no uh commercial. So Stockbridge, the city of Stockbridge has a average housing size. [1:53:16, 1:53:36]: Of 2.5 units, I mean 2.5 uh people uh persons per household. And if you time 2,000 by 2.5, that would give you well over 5,000 residents with no new commercial development to support all these um residential uses. So as a result of this results. [1:53:36, 1:53:56]: result of this staff recommend um denial of this application from um c three to um pu d based on that fact um however the the um the development is compatible with the existing neighborhood and um and [1:53:56, 1:54:16]: In the community, but we just feel at this time it's best to leave the property as as zoned as C3 to give um a commercial um development an opportunity to come on the scene. Uh we feel after all those planned um developments that we've already approved that will result [1:54:16, 1:54:35]: and over 2,000 new residential units. In due time, we feel that a commercial developer might get interested in the land and develop it as a commercial project. So that's the main reason behind staff recommending a recommendation of the Nile for this project. [1:54:36, 1:54:42]: All right, thank you for that, Mr. Ryan. Um um Miss Hogan, could you come forward please? [1:54:52, 1:55:02]: As a representative for um what is that, uh D R Horton, right? Yes, sir. All right. And uh what do you need to tell us this evening? [1:55:03, 1:55:04]: Let me get mine. [1:55:04, 1:55:06]: Let me get my presentation pulled up here, Mayor. [1:55:22, 1:55:28]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Tiffany Hogan, Vice President of Fort Planning for D.R. Horton, Atlanta East Division. [1:55:30, 1:55:50]: Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be here with you all again this evening. As you have heard, we are seeking rezoning of a property located at the corner of Walter Way and Davidson Parkway for a residential development. For purposes of this presentation, we are calling it North Bridge Crossing Phase 2. But after meeting with the [1:55:50, 1:56:00]: the community. Uh we agree with their desire not to name it Northbridge because of phase one. So I do want to specify that will not be the name of this project ultimately. [1:56:01, 1:56:07]: Uh also just to correct one thing before I get into my presentation, the um [1:56:07, 1:56:25]: Site plan that staff showed dated 12823 was actually still the old site plan. This site plan, and I'll show a better image of it here in a second, is actually the updated revised version that removes the 15 single family detached units from Walter Way. [1:56:27, 1:56:47]: Again, the location of the project, Walter Way and Davidson, directly across the street from Northbridge Crossing Phase One. In fact, the entrance from Walter Way is almost directly across the street from the amenities for Northbridge Phase One. We are seeking a comprehensive plan amendment. [1:56:47, 1:57:07]: Amendment this evening from low density vertical mixed use residential to high density residential. But I do want to point out the fact that with your recently adopted comprehensive plan, our plan would actually be within the low density residential because we are at 3.74 units. [1:57:07, 1:57:16]: We filed our application just about a month before you approve that we are being considered under the old standards according to your planning staff. [1:57:17, 1:57:37]: Stand by for a second, please. Yes. On that note. Well, uh I I my understanding is we don't have to vote on that tonight, so I just make sure is that correct? Uh we it's already it's already within a standard. So I mean you can brief it, but I don't think we have to do a formal action to a vote on that. And I need to get a legal opinion before we go any further to make sure uh a macro on this or whatever the case may be. [1:57:43, 1:57:54]: Yes, ma'am. It because we adopted the comp plan that was reviewed by DCA and by us, um, that that now the the density requirements actually comply if the council approves. [1:57:55, 1:57:57]: Um the rezoning. [1:57:57, 1:57:59]: It's already in compliance. [1:57:59, 1:58:04]: All right, just one clarification. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Mr Mayor. No problem. Go ahead, please. [1:58:06, 1:58:26]: So again, we're at uh 79 acres here on this site, uh 36.3 acres of open space. We have a creek that we are preserving on the space, and there are of course some local, state, and federal buffers around that. Uh so we are looking at preserving about 45.9% of the space on this site. One of the things that staff mentioned. [1:58:26, 1:58:46]: During his presentation, was the difficulty that commercial developers have seen with the site. One of those is that creek, and I will show that in the next slide. So, again, we have reduced the number of units on this site plan. Actually, this is the third reduction since our initial application. The last reduction was based on a second. [1:58:46, 1:59:06]: Second community meeting that we had last week. The first community meeting we had two folks that showed up that lived in the same residence. They were one of the existing homes that was built with Northbridge phase one. They had concerns about the buffer between their home and those 15 units that would be there along the front edge. During the second community meeting [1:59:06, 1:59:26]: Meeting last week, we heard similar concerns from the residents also about the access to Walter Way, and they would at they asked that we consider removing those 15 homes. So that is how we end up now with a unit count of 296 units, which is 128 townhomes and 120. [1:59:26, 1:59:29]: [7170.0, 7190.0]: And we'll skip that. And uh we are also seeking rezoning this evening or seeking rezoning this evening. The property, as you heard from staff, was rezoned to C3 in 2009, which is a high um heavy commercial usage. We are seeking to rezone to a PUD. We selected a PUD. [1:59:50, 2:00:10]: Rezoning simply because we wanted to be able to put a mixture of products into this development that could serve anywhere from the first-time home buyer to what we consider a move-up buyer by doing that with townhomes and single-family detached homes, which include ranch and two-story homes. [2:00:13, 2:00:33]: A bit more site data here. The townhomes are 24-foot wide townhomes, which are two um car garage townhome units. The single-family detached lots are 60-foot lots, and we are proposing a front setback of 20 feet and a rear setback of 20 feet as well. We wanted to add some additional parts. [2:00:33, 2:00:52]: parking here particularly for the townhome development. So there are 91 additional guest parking spaces on the site. Your code would require that we have 288 parking spaces. In total, we have 336 parking spaces for the entire development. [2:00:54, 2:01:14]: And again, here's that revised site plan, which removes the 15 units that were closest to Walter Way. As you can see very clearly, that creek runs the entirety of the property, which would cause um some impact for a commercial developer because they would have to determine how to handle that with separating the [2:01:14, 2:01:34]: Commercial commercial usage. While with the residential development, it can actually be an amenity to the site, particularly since we've removed those 15 units on Walter Way. We can actually now make that an open space or a park area that's along that creek area as well. So one of the other things that came out of the community meeting was they would [2:01:34, 2:01:54]: Would like for us to direct traffic from the Davidson Parkway entrance. So that would be the main access to the community. Um, that would hopefully alleviate some of the traffic with them entering their community off of Waterway. So we have agreed to place the main entrance monument off of Davidson in order to drive. [2:01:54, 2:02:14]: Traffic that way as the main access point. It is a full access in and out, and also Walter Way is a full access in and out as well, but will hopefully be the secondary entrance point. Some of that additional parking that I talked about is just as you come in the entrance from Davidson, the mail kiosk would be. [2:02:14, 2:02:34]: Be there for the town home side of the community as well. There's additional parking there throughout. I wish I could make this a little bit bigger for you, but hopefully you have it so that you can see it a little larger as well. So the Kelly Green homes are the townhome units. The more olive color units are the single-family detached units. The main [2:02:34, 2:02:46]: amenity area is that area that has kind of that red triangle there. There is a uh pool, a playground, pickleball courts, um, as well as a um [2:02:46, 2:02:56]: cabana for um with restrooms for the pool area. There are sidewalks on both sides of the street, interior for walkability throughout the entire community. [2:02:58, 2:03:18]: One of the other things that staff mentioned was further evaluation by commercial brokers. We uh because we heard the feedback uh from staff during this process, we did want to engage a consultant who is one of the number one uh commercial brokers in Atlanta, has been in the business for nearly 30 years, and he [2:03:18, 2:03:34]: his assessment of the property is that yes, while there is some frontage off of 75, because of the location and the lack of visibility and accessibility, it would be a difficult site for him to sell to one of his commercial tenants other than like a warehouse user. [2:03:36, 2:03:56]: Uh with this development we feel that it benefits the surrounding area in a few ways. Maintaining a family-friendly environment in an area that already has residential uses with families. One of the things that we heard during the community meetings was that they were extremely concerned already with the drive time being so near them and having that heavy truck. [2:03:56, 2:04:16]: traffic and that sort of thing coming through their community already. We could create a connection between Reeves Creek mixed use and the community of potential users. And there's no interest in year has been no interest in years for the existing site as a commercial development. Again, this was rezoned for commercial use in 2009. [2:04:16, 2:04:17]: Yeah. [2:04:17, 2:04:22]: There's no additional heavy truck traffic for the existing re residents with the residential development. [2:04:22, 2:04:38]: and topographic concerns for commercial development, including that creek that we talked about, and also on the side closest to the recently approved Rees Creek development, it is approximately a 30 foot drop-off on that side of the site. [2:04:39, 2:04:46]: This is just a lot typical of what the lots would look back w look like. I'm sorry, with those setbacks that we talked about. [2:04:46, 2:04:49]: That's for the townhouse and that's for the detached lots. [2:04:50, 2:04:54]: And then showing the zoning map here again, which you've seen a staff report. [2:04:56, 2:05:16]: We have proposed five additional conditions from the conditions that you see in the staff reports. So in addition, um d a lot of these came out of that community meeting. So we removed the 15 homes and we already did that, and it's on the site plan thus dated 12-7, 2023. [2:05:16, 2:05:36]: Select a name for the development that does not reference Northbridge in order to avoid any confusion with phase one. We will place the main entrance monument for the development at the Davidson entrance in order to encourage usage of this entrance as the main entrance, and a secondary entrance will be located off Walter Way. Both entrance [2:05:36, 2:05:46]: Entrances will remain as full access entrances. No more than 5% of the homes may be used as a rental property, and there shall be a mandatory homeowners association. [2:05:52, 2:06:12]: Just a few points about the community again, 296 total homes with that reduction. 128 of those are two-car garage town homes. 168 of them are single family detached homes. Those are also two-car units. There will be some ranch or one-story plans, and there will also be two-story plans. [2:06:12, 2:06:23]: All of the units will have three to five bedrooms throughout. That's for the single family detached. The townhomes will be three bedroom units with the exception of an option [2:06:23, 2:06:43]: For a four-bedroom unit in one of those units on the end of the building. Again, a mandatory homeowners association to assist with maintaining the community and the amenities, and the amenities to include a swimming pool, clubhouse, I believe I said cabana earlier, it is a clubhouse, multiple open spaces throughout that will be used as park spaces. [2:06:43, 2:06:46]: multi-use paths throughout and a playground. [2:06:47, 2:06:57]: And again, just to remind you all that uh we do have the Main Street Stars program that offers incentives for those local heroes that live among us. [2:06:58, 2:07:18]: And also the Home Buyers Club, which help helps people not just qualify for a home, but to become successful homeowners for years to come and help to create generational wealth. I do understand that one of the things that council is considering tonight is the fact that in 2012 you did have that little livable centers in [2:07:18, 2:07:38]: initiative completed. What we should consider with that is that since 2012, many things have changed in the community regarding your demographics even that are in the community. So while there was a plan there for some commercial usage here, we do believe that a residential usage is appropriate at this time. [2:07:38, 2:07:50]: At the end of the day, your jobs that are created do have to have a home to go to as well. So this would be adding additional homes that could be for home ownership to the community. [2:07:50, 2:08:10]: Um with the staff proposed conditions, the date of the site plan uh actually says 72723 in there. So it does need to be the 12723 date to reflect those 15 units being removed, and that was condition number three, and then condition number five was for a [2:08:10, 2:08:30]: Traffic impact study. That traffic impact study has already been completed and has been provided to staff as well as the councilman for this district. And I did fail to mention that the traffic engineer is also here with me this evening, Mr. Clay Smith. If there are any specific questions related to traffic, uh one of the [2:08:30, 2:08:50]: Other uh things that came up in the staff presentation regarded uh retail and accessibility for folks in the homes over there. Uh we have checked in that on Walmart, uh Aldi, all of those things in that area are 0.7 miles from this development, which would be less than three minutes for folks to get. [2:08:50, 2:09:10]: And that is a very high highly commercial area, as we all know. I am happy to entertain any questions from Council and Mayor. Thank you for your presentation, Tiffany. Mr. Thomas, sir. I know you probably have something to say. Thank you, Mrs. Hogan. [2:09:10, 2:09:27]: At several other meetings with some of the property owners, and we definitely want to thank you for um making those uh conditional changes. [2:09:27, 2:09:30]: But what I wanna s sort of mention to the council is that [2:09:31, 2:09:34]: This development is unlike [2:09:35, 2:09:37]: the previous [2:09:37, 2:09:40]: uh development that we just discussed because there's no [2:09:41, 2:09:43]: uh adjacent [2:09:44, 2:09:47]: community or neighborhood or anyone [2:09:48, 2:09:58]: that's opposing uh this development, it is sort of coming from within. And we have and I have met and Ms. Hope, we have met with [2:09:58, 2:10:01]: uh the property owners in that p particular area. [2:10:02, 2:10:04]: So it seems that it is [2:10:05, 2:10:07]: residential [2:10:07, 2:10:12]: versus commercial. And I know this is why [2:10:12, 2:10:13]: The staff [2:10:14, 2:10:16]: And the pl and the zoning board. [2:10:17, 2:10:19]: recommended denial because [2:10:19, 2:10:39]: As Mr. Anderson stated, that this particular uh these parcels were somewhat set aside for that commercial use. Uh and I'm sure once we get into the the public hearing phase of it, men of the the the citizen uh in that particular area probably [2:10:39, 2:10:42]: come forward and and mention that [2:10:42, 2:10:45]: But I will say thank you again for [2:10:45, 2:10:48]: uh those proposed changes because [2:10:48, 2:11:08]: In those meeting with the uh citizens, we talked about all of those issues. Uh, you know, the the uh egress, ingress, and you was willing to to change the focal point uh that you was also willing to remove those 15 units. [2:11:08, 2:11:14]: that was across from the the pool house right their own walkedway. So you did do all of those. [2:11:15, 2:11:16]: But my [2:11:16, 2:11:20]: My long term concern though is [2:11:20, 2:11:24]: this being one of the [2:11:25, 2:11:27]: Last properties. [2:11:28, 2:11:32]: for commercial. An and let me say here too that even the community [2:11:33, 2:11:36]: They really weren't sure if they wanted to see [2:11:37, 2:11:39]: Uh in additional [2:11:40, 2:11:42]: residential development there. [2:11:42, 2:11:44]: Or if they wanted to see commercial. [2:11:45, 2:11:55]: So it was one of those kind of a deals and I don't know if if really if they, you know, decided on which way to go with that, but [2:11:57, 2:11:59]: Thing that I'm thinking about is [2:11:59, 2:12:05]: Anytime you do have a commercial development [2:12:06, 2:12:09]: You do have a residual of [2:12:09, 2:12:13]: uh sales tax that would um [2:12:14, 2:12:15]: Impact. [2:12:15, 2:12:17]: The possibility of [2:12:18, 2:12:22]: the city raising taxes because it would somewhat [2:12:23, 2:12:43]: Uh offset or it would have some impact on that. And I think we have to take those things in consideration because as the residential areas grow in that particular area, and if you're familiar with that area, it is a lot of raw land. And so we know that something is coming, whether it's [2:12:43, 2:12:43]: The dental. [2:12:44, 2:12:45]: Or whether it's commercial. [2:12:46, 2:12:47]: It's coming. [2:12:48, 2:12:49]: And so [2:12:49, 2:12:53]: Those are some of my concerns and so even up to this moment. [2:12:54, 2:12:55]: I really didn't know [2:12:56, 2:13:04]: what recommendation I would make, even though I know that the the staff and the zoning board recommended denial. [2:13:04, 2:13:07]: So but I do understand both sides of that. [2:13:08, 2:13:28]: But I hopefully at the end of the night we all will have a better understanding. And I think, Mr. Anderson, you made a great uh presentation. And Mrs. Hogan, I think you did very well in articulating those conditions and those changes. So may I just gonna yield back and we'll sort of see how the public [2:13:28, 2:13:29]: [8009.5, 8011.7]: And I think for the council I know [2:13:31, 2:13:33]: Uh Mr. Garden. [2:13:35, 2:13:48]: Is he still? Yeah, question for the start. No, no, I I just know he came forward just a minute ago and said that it did meet uh all of our uh comprehensive plan and et cetera. So I don't know. [2:13:49, 2:13:50]: Um [2:13:52, 2:14:01]: What is the heavy decision for us to make here on this council? So we'll just go through the public hearing and and we'll we'll see from that. Mr. Alexander, go ahead please. [2:14:03, 2:14:05]: I thought you had your hand up. I do, okay. [2:14:06, 2:14:09]: Uh Ryan, come back to the podium. Please. [2:14:12, 2:14:32]: Now when we worked out the agreement for the flipping road project, we worked we worked out access through this area uh to get to David. We we reserved this area for future access to get to Davison Parkway so that we could get those trucks out of North Bridge. [2:14:32, 2:14:52]: Crossing that go through there every day. Now, they agreed at that point that they would provide access to us to the northernmost tip of their development so that when we when a commercial developer did come along to develop that new [2:14:52, 2:14:58]: northern section that they would provide that that could ac provide access. [2:14:59, 2:15:19]: to drive time to be able to get the trucks out of North Bridge Crossing and then they would be going through the commercial part that would be developing at that point. Is that is that that that that was the whole thinking behind what we were doing, right? Yes. B back in July, yes. Mm-hmm. Right. So if we did this development [2:15:18, 2:15:28]: with no commercial component, then basically we would never be able to get those trucks out of North Bridge Crossing, right? But out going through a residential area. [2:15:29, 2:15:30]: Yes. [2:15:30, 2:15:50]: And I think that that's where my biggest issue is, is because we we made some plans contingent upon what we were doing in order to get the trucks out of North Bridge Crossing through a commercial development. Now, since this project does not have any commercial attached to it, then it it kind of binds us and there's [2:15:50, 2:16:10]: There's no connection even to that into the flip and road project, right? There's no there's not even any connection to it. No. So basically we would be sealing the fate of those residents in North Bridge Crossing that they would those trucks would be coming through there forever, or basically at this point. I mean there would be no other option, right? [2:16:10, 2:16:10]: Right. [2:16:12, 2:16:32]: Not that I can think of, no, sir. And and that's what my my concern is when I first saw this, I thought maybe it was a mixed use development with some commercial, and that that commercial access would provide us some connection to uh the flipping project because we approved all of those residents or [2:16:32, 2:16:52]: Residential units over there because we wanted to reserve that commercial portion for future hotels, restaurants to serve all of that. And that was supposed to be the carrot that would attract someone in a commercial development to develop that parcel because all of those residential units were already. [2:16:51, 2:16:52]: Already there. [2:16:52, 2:16:57]: Yes, that's that's that what I that's what I think it was at the time. Yes. [2:16:58, 2:17:16]: And and and that's that's that's the real truth. I don't know whether there's some uh option where the we might be able to revisit this at a later date where we could add some res some uh commercial component to it,'cause basically as uh the councilman said, this would really be just adding [2:17:16, 2:17:36]: One dollar for every residence and one dollar in usage to what we're where we're trying to go. So basically we need something to help offset uh this particular development. And we try to and that's why we reserve this land to offset their what we had already uh kind of looked forward to, but certainly [2:17:36, 2:17:43]: There's some flexibility to see maybe at some well we might be able to revise the plan to include some um [2:17:45, 2:17:53]: commercial or to maintain the frontage uh for future hotels or something that will be along the I seventy five quarter. [2:17:54, 2:18:11]: You you know, I I I one second. I that was you a question for the applicant. Okay. I I got yes, she she can come forward. She can come forward, that's no problem. But I was just wondering, I thought that would be might be something we might should be able to work out, or hope, that we can still do this, but um and maybe that's what you're gonna try to answer here. [2:18:11, 2:18:13]: Uh but go ahead, please. [2:18:16, 2:18:36]: Good evening again. So, unfortunately, we are aware that some promises were made. The seller of this property was not a part of the Reeves Creek development. They are a separate seller. And I actually spoke with him again today to get some clarity on this very issue. [2:18:36, 2:18:48]: At the time that the Reeves Creek project went through, he was contacted to see if he would be willing to sell. However, we were already under contract for the property. Okay. So [2:18:50, 2:19:02]: Holding the seller of the property accountable for something that was said with a different project affects the rights to his property. And so that it would be the concern here. [2:19:02, 2:19:22]: Well certainly I I certainly concur with that, but the zoning in place already dictated commercial. That's what we have there today. We have a commercial zoning there right now. And you're asking us to change that commercial zoning to that particular property. So that's an issue. Is there any flexibility where you might be able to add some [2:19:22, 2:19:30]: for when a reg a mixed use development of some sort with this uh with the residential included. [2:19:30, 2:19:50]: Yes, sir. So as previously stated, there is an opinion that the seller received as well from a commercial broker, very likely the broker that he would use, that says that the site is not a good site for commercial usage. So his concern would be the value of his property. [2:19:50, 2:19:56]: property of course. And unfortunately D.R. Horton is not a commercial developer. We are a residential developer. [2:19:57, 2:20:17]: You see, if we listen to what people said about the South Side, we would never get any developments approved.'Cause certainly we we we don't listen to what these commercial brokers say. Otherwise we just forget it. Well, we just gotta keep going to the north side. Well we're not gonna continue to do that. So I certainly understand your position and [2:20:16, 2:20:26]: And uh again the property most assume that a commercial uh designation would be more valuable than a residential [2:20:26, 2:20:27]: Designation. But [2:20:28, 2:20:38]: I mean it really it's not just up to me, it's up to the rest of the council, but I have some concern about these residents who uh over there in North Bridge Crossing for sure. [2:20:39, 2:20:53]: And Mr. Mayor, may I clarify something? So it's not a north side, south side um analysis, uh Councilman Alexander. It has to do with the accessibility and visibility of the site is what the consultant based that on. [2:20:53, 2:21:05]: Oh thank you. Any other qu yeah, go ahead. Uh Mr. Blount I'll give Mr. Blount here. One of the things I've found and and you're probably correct in what you're hearing. [2:21:05, 2:21:10]: But what I'm hearing it is a north side, south side thing, even down to Whataburger. [2:21:10, 2:21:12]: They had several Whataburgers that was coming. [2:21:13, 2:21:14]: None was coming to the south side. [2:21:15, 2:21:18]: When you see these high end restaurants coming with the chains [2:21:19, 2:21:27]: None are coming to the South Side. And so it's gonna take elected bodies to change that perception of the South Side. [2:21:28, 2:21:35]: The elected bodies on what we accept or don't accept, not development, not developers that want to bring in homes. [2:21:36, 2:21:38]: I thank God for those developers that wanna be on here. [2:21:39, 2:21:44]: But the perception of the South Side is only gonna be changed by the elected bodies in the counties and the cities. [2:21:45, 2:21:46]: Because if we listen to [2:21:47, 2:21:49]: Your interest in building [2:21:49, 2:21:57]: versus we knowing what we can offer to these high end restaurants and these and and and and and entertainment venues. [2:21:58, 2:21:59]: It only changes here. [2:22:00, 2:22:04]: Because on the south side, they didn't think a successful amphitheater would be great. [2:22:05, 2:22:08]: And we're selling out. We got the top notch shows. [2:22:09, 2:22:14]: is because what the elective body did, not not listening to the developers. So I wanna disagree [2:22:15, 2:22:21]: respectfully that it takes a body of elected officials to change to make change, not developers. [2:22:21, 2:22:23]: Mr Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [2:22:23, 2:22:27]: And also this property in question. [2:22:29, 2:22:30]: It was stated that it is [2:22:31, 2:22:33]: Офтемей пат. [2:22:34, 2:22:36]: Which I somewhat disagree with that as well. [2:22:37, 2:22:43]: And I almost sort of uh concur with the comments that Councilman Blount just made. Now [2:22:44, 2:22:56]: Daddy's a representative here tonight. I have not met. I only spoken with him on the phone. And he he represents a client that's looking to come and develop. [2:22:56, 2:23:01]: the other side of Davison and I know he is probably [2:23:02, 2:23:08]: watching and waiting to see what happens uh in this development. So [2:23:09, 2:23:10]: They are coming. [2:23:11, 2:23:12]: They are coming. [2:23:13, 2:23:14]: Um [2:23:14, 2:23:17]: He is also looking to bring in a [2:23:17, 2:23:20]: residential development as well. [2:23:20, 2:23:23]: And I pretty much said the same thing to him. [2:23:24, 2:23:24]: That [2:23:25, 2:23:26]: The city [2:23:27, 2:23:28]: It's somewhat [2:23:29, 2:23:40]: designating this property for commercial use because as Mr Anderson indicated that this is one of the last strongholds for that. [2:23:46, 2:23:46]: Right. [2:23:47, 2:23:49]: The present zoning. [2:23:50, 2:23:50]: And [2:23:51, 2:23:52]: What is allowed? [2:23:53, 2:23:54]: Commercially [2:23:55, 2:23:57]: uh in in the in the in the present zone. [2:23:58, 2:24:07]: Well, it's currently zone C three. Uh and what what's allowed in on C three is you got you can have automobile brokers, um [2:24:09, 2:24:10]: Well [2:24:11, 2:24:17]: But it's also an overlay district. So we'll the op the PMU overlay district will r would restrict a lot of these things, but you [2:24:18, 2:24:37]: You could have uh automobile service repair, building and lumber supply establishment, commercial parking garages and lot, commuter transit such as bus and train, department stores, farmers market, many warehouses and storage buildings without outdoor storage, office uses, retail, wholesale, [2:24:37, 2:24:50]: Including outside storage, recreational vehicle boat sales and service, trade shops, electrical plumbing, heating, cooling, roofing, siding, tattoo shops, used appliances. [2:24:50, 2:25:10]: With all due respect. The parkway corridor, doesn't that restrict all most kind of stuff you just said? Yeah. So no no no no uh let let's let's make sure everybody understand. Right. The parkway overlay ordinance will not allow t all most of what most of those yeah, most of those uses wouldn't be allowed. So we we really want to hear about the more attractive [2:25:10, 2:25:30]: So you can have hotels, restaurants, yeah, restaurants, I know retail shops and things of that nature. Hotels, restaurants, hotels, most retailers. Department stores, furniture stores, health services clinics, pet shops, once again restaurants. [2:25:30, 2:25:43]: Restaurant, retail warehouses, sporting fields and complexes. And um and also with a conditional use permit, you can have um well, funeral homes. [2:25:45, 2:25:50]: Well, Mr. Anderson, if if I may, I I I really don't wanna give anyone the impression [2:25:50, 2:25:54]: That metadata thing that you uh mentioning [2:25:55, 2:26:00]: would actually come to fruition. No, no sir. I mean it was [2:26:00, 2:26:05]: And and and I think this this s this council is more interested in [2:26:06, 2:26:10]: bringing in those other amenities and that and I think this is why [2:26:10, 2:26:12]: Correct me if I'm wrong. [2:26:12, 2:26:15]: The the zoning board and the staff [2:26:15, 2:26:18]: Recommended that this remain [2:26:18, 2:26:21]: uh commercial. So we could bring in [2:26:21, 2:26:25]: Uh those likable retail the the hotels [2:26:26, 2:26:27]: Quality hotels. [2:26:28, 2:26:39]: uh the restaurants, the retail and and those kind of those kind of entities. And I think this is what this council will be more amendable to as opposed to [2:26:40, 2:26:45]: Some of those other light industry things that you just mentioned. Yes. Um [2:26:45, 2:26:47]: So but could [2:26:47, 2:26:52]: Mr Alexander, you can continue. Uh Mayor I yield back. I see Mrs. Gate. Mr. Alexander, you have another comment? [2:26:54, 2:27:14]: I just wanted to say, you know, this is why we passed these parkway corridor or ordinances to make sure that nothing but excellence comes along those corridors. So I just wanted to make sure that that information was corrected on the record that those issues should not be allowed there. You can't even have gas station on the parkway. [2:27:14, 2:27:34]: Parkway corridor, is that correct? Yes, that's true. So so certainly there's a there's a lot of restrictions versus the tat no the tattoo shot would not be allowed there. So several of the others would not be allowed there. So the parkway ordinance demands that the to the the sidewalk be there, the upgraded landscaping, it prohibits truck stops and all that. [2:27:34, 2:27:46]: those unwanted stuff that we we would never want there. Thank you. All right, Ms. Gann, go ahead please. Um our LCI was updated from the twenty twelve and it states that um the City of Stockbridge. [2:27:47, 2:27:48]: Um [2:27:48, 2:27:52]: mm map contains growth centers and the subject property [2:27:52, 2:27:56]: shown as part of I seventy five Activity Center. [2:27:56, 2:28:16]: Further, an I-75 Activity Center concept plan was prepared showing the subject property as being part of a projected major employment center with mixed uses, such as uses such as and that are envisioned to include Class A office space, hotels, retail uses, high quality. [2:28:16, 2:28:25]: quality multifamily senior housing and park space. A new north-south roadway would be constructed through the subject property to connect with Flippin' Road. [2:28:25, 2:28:39]: with non-residential uses being located on the western side adjacent to I-75, I-675, and high quality multifamily and senior housing housing use uses being located on the eastern side. [2:28:40, 2:28:54]: That is something that I'm interested in. I'm interested in smart quality growth. These things are listed here. These are the things that we have talked about that we wanted. These are the things that we have envisioned for the city. [2:28:54, 2:28:55]: Um [2:28:56, 2:29:05]: It it seems like a lot of homes and it it seems like l a smaller lot and I I truly believe that because it's commercial and we have very uh [2:29:06, 2:29:11]: a limited amount of commercial land that we have here right now, zone commercial here in Stockbridge. [2:29:11, 2:29:13]: I think we should hold on to that. [2:29:14, 2:29:27]: And go after some of those developers. Well let some of those welcome some of those developers who want to build commercial on our property. Uh on the on this property, on that property, that zone commercial already. Um [2:29:28, 2:29:48]: And the reason being is we are are constantly building, we're growing. Um but when you look at the um the that particular area, there is commercial right up the street. You mean I mean you got your post office right there, you got other places maybe not as desirable as I wish. [2:29:48, 2:29:52]: Right? But there's a potential for [2:29:52, 2:30:12]: growth there in regards to smart growth with some some really nice retail, some maybe restaurants within that cluster envision. And the reason why that's possible is because people have already envisioned it. They've made proposals for it, even in unincorporated Henry. They've made proposals for it for Stockbridge. So I know that [2:30:12, 2:30:14]: [9015.0, 9017.1]: They the developers are interested in it. [2:30:17, 2:30:25]: And I I can't say that they wouldn't be interested in it being a part of a commercial piece. It look to me, it flows perfectly. [2:30:26, 2:30:45]: Uh the the applicant is um requesting uh deferral so she can work with her uh with their com commercial investment arm to see if they can create um a mixed use development. So she's asking for what what what council consider uh a deferral on the item tonight. [2:30:46, 2:30:48]: Well yeah, go ahead, Mr. Blount. [2:30:48, 2:31:08]: Um if she withdraw the application, she can bring it back in any time they want to. Yeah. But if she wants to go forward and it's denied, she has to wait a year. Yeah, that's what she is. That's why she said she was asking for uh a deferral so she can go back and work with their commercial peace. I'm amendable for her wanting to withdraw application and bring commercial peace if if the sub [2:31:08, 2:31:13]: Yeah, that's what I was saying. I was asking for that. Mr. Thomas, you got a comment on this? [2:31:15, 2:31:26]: Okay. Anybody anybody else have any comments on on potential deferral and be the course of that. All right. Yes, sir. Go ahead. [2:31:27, 2:31:28]: Yes, um. [2:31:29, 2:31:32]: Mrs Ms. Hogan, did you wanna say something before I make this motion? [2:31:33, 2:31:35]: No, sorry, we we [2:31:35, 2:31:55]: We are going to um we would request a deferral and there is actually a piece of property that we did not point out that remains commercial, is not a part of this deal. Um and with the 15 homes removed, maybe there's an opportunity there for a neighborhood community center uh neighborhood retail center. [2:31:55, 2:32:10]: center or something. So we would like the opportunity to uh take a look at that and that way it's not denied and it's a year before anybody could come back here. So h how long will it take you to actually to come back? [2:32:10, 2:32:18]: We will work with staff. You need forty-five days now for publication. Uh [2:32:19, 2:32:39]: February was that two months? February at the earliest commission councilman. Okay. Well Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Actually. I I move that we defer this item for forty-five days to allow the developer to uh reconvene with the council with a new [2:32:39, 2:32:40]: New uh proposal. [2:32:41, 2:32:41]: Okay. [2:32:42, 2:33:00]: Uh is there a second of that motion? Um go ahead. It's actually February's gonna be more than forty five days. You might want to give it a date in f first meeting in uh February. That's gonna be more than forty five days. Okay, that's a good point. So it we have to have time to actually redesign the site plan in the end forty five days for publication. No. Maybe sixty days. [2:33:00, 2:33:20]: Well I mean uh if y well you gotta it w I I would prefer you to defer it to a d uh a council meeting, either first meeting or last meeting in February. That way they can uh know. March. Right. First meeting in March would actually work with the timeline. Okay, first okay. Well Mayor Ford, uh I am in my motion to indicate [2:33:20, 2:33:25]: uh the first meeting date uh in the month of March in twenty twenty four. [2:33:25, 2:33:28]: All right. I second. Okay, Mr. Blount second. I must all in favor, please indicate. [2:33:30, 2:33:36]: Thank you very much. Thank you, Miss Hogan. Appreciate it. Just many. And I I just want Miss Hogan real quick. [2:33:38, 2:33:56]: I I want you guys to um pay attention to w what the vision of the city of Stockbridge wants, not necessarily um oh we're just gonna put a activity center out. We we actually have a list of things that we uh we desire for that particular area. Thank you. [2:33:56, 2:33:57]: [9239.0, 9242.6]: Well happy holidays to you, Miss Hogan. We'll see you early next year. [2:34:03, 2:34:05]: Is it only small? [2:34:05, 2:34:25]: Okay, what we have next we'll end that particular public hearing and go on to the third one. And this deals with an annexation case AX3 excuse me AX two zero two three-04 Council District 5 consideration of request to for annexation of property 2250 and 20 [2:34:25, 2:34:26]: Yeah. [2:34:26, 2:34:32]: Totalico Road located on incorporate Henry County into the operating limits to allow for construction of mixed use development. [2:34:32, 2:34:52]: Also, we'll deal with a comprehensive plan amendment KCP two zero two three-05 Council District 5. Consideration, of course, the requested and sign a future land use designation of high density mixed use to property 2250 and 2206 Jodica Road. Once again located in unincorporated Henry County into the city's stop. [2:34:52, 2:35:09]: Limits to allow for construction of mixed use development. And once again, rezoning case RZ 2023-06, district council district five, consideration of request to resign uh to assign the zoning district PUD Plan Unit Development. [2:35:09, 2:35:13]: Туффарс атваритту фіфти атвяті о сіка род. [2:35:14, 2:35:23]: Located once again in unincorporated Henry County, and if and after the parcels are annexed into the stop recity limits to allow for construction of mixed use development. Mr. Anderson, please. [2:35:23, 2:35:43]: Okay. Um once again the applicant is Marketplace Storefront LLC. Uh and this is a consideration of request annexed property at twenty-two fifth and twenty-two oh six Jodoko Road from unincorporated Henry County into the city of Stockbridge. The property consists of twenty point four acres. [2:35:43, 2:36:03]: It's heavily wooded. The current county zone is MU, which means mixed use. And the county land use designation is MX, also mixed use. If you look at the slide, you will see an aerial photo of the property: 2250 Jodoko Road and 2206 Jodoko Road, and you can see. [2:36:03, 2:36:06]: [9368.1, 9373.8]: To the south you have um the b the bridges, uh Argento at Bridges and Jotaco. [2:36:16, 2:36:35]: Um properties to the north, you got C2, Henry County. Properties to the south, you got PUD, Plan Unit Development City of Stockbridge. Properties to the east, not applicable. Properties to the west, you got C three heavy commercial, C2 General Commercial, and that's in all in Henry County. Here's a joint zoning map. [2:36:39, 2:36:52]: You can see you got a a lot of C two and MU mixed use and PUD. So the applicants uh proposed rezoning the PUD would be compatible because of the PUD and the mixed use zoning designations in the area. [2:36:58, 2:37:08]: Like uh um previously mentioned, um you got C two to the north in Henry County, PUD to the south, and C three and C two to the west. [2:37:12, 2:37:32]: The surrounding land use, this is related to the comprehensive plan amendment. Properties to the north, you got vacant land, and you got a mixed use land use designation. Properties to the south, you got the bridges of Johtoco, which is high density mixed use, and the applicant is proposing to go to high density mixed use. So that will that would make his pro the proposal. [2:37:32, 2:37:52]: To go to high density compatible and windbill spot zoning. And to the west you got the U Haul Neighborhood Dealer and the Emerson Village Retail Shopping Center, which is also mixed use. And there's another mixed use um land use category which would which also further proves that the applicant proposal to go to um [2:37:52, 2:37:58]: PUD would be compatible with the surrounding community. Here's the joint future land use map. [2:38:00, 2:38:08]: And you can see that the compatibility further further highlighted with the m with the MX, MX and PUD zoning designations. [2:38:10, 2:38:30]: Uh project information the applicant proposes to build a mixed-use development with 320 multifamily units with 612 parking spaces that will be provided to the residents. The proposed mixed-use development will also include a 30-foot thousand a 30,000 square foot retail shopping center with 189 parking spaces that will be provided. [2:38:30, 2:38:35]: Park and a minute area, a car wash maintenance center, and ten foot sidewalks. [2:38:36, 2:38:38]: Here's the the site plan. [2:38:46, 2:38:50]: Here's um a rendering of the the multifamily development apartments. [2:38:54, 2:39:00]: Here's uh a rendering of the the retail, the thirty thousand square foot retail. [2:39:02, 2:39:05]: See that it's a high quality development with a lot of brick. [2:39:11, 2:39:20]: Uh as as it relates to the um the annexation, since the property is contiguous to the city, staff recommends approval uh approval of the annexation. [2:39:22, 2:39:35]: As it relates to the rezoning, s the the subject property is compatible with the surrounding community and the surrounding zoning is also compatible. Staff recommends approval of the rezoning. [2:39:37, 2:39:54]: And I should have mentioned the comp plan prev before the rezoning, but however, the same applies with the comp plan. Um the land uses are similar. The existing land uses are similar to what the applicant is proposing and is also compatible. So staff recommends approval of all three items. [2:40:00, 2:40:01]: I'm ready to answer any questions we have any. [2:40:03, 2:40:12]: Uh thank you for your presentation. All right. Uh since this is in district five, Mr. Alexander, please. I appreciate this and certainly as the city endeavors to [2:40:12, 2:40:32]: grow uh in a quality fashion with smart growth uh and high quality uh product. Certainly we already control uh the south side of Johtoco with the Costco development. We see what's going on with that that's blooming, that's coming out of the ground and it's doing exactly what we want it to do. [2:40:32, 2:40:52]: uh on this particular development. These are uh high-end finishes and certainly I have some questions for the applicant. I do believe that originally in this plan, uh Henry County had actually approved the plan and then the um retail or restaurant component included a rooftop [2:40:52, 2:41:12]: Option. It's it's still part of it. Okay, the rooftop option is still the for the for the rooftop restaurant, correct? Yes. Okay. Well certainly we'll be listening to that portion when the applicant comes forward to talk to us about it. Yeah, and and actually that'd be a good point to do now now the applic applicant come forward and want to give a [2:41:12, 2:41:13]: [9677.4, 9677.7]: [2:41:18, 2:41:19]: Yeah. [2:41:23, 2:41:39]: Now I have to I have to admit, I am surprised because when I met you I thought you were someone else that was going to um have a make a comment for or against certain uh one of the um annexations. I didn't realize you were the actual individual applicant. [2:41:40, 2:41:41]: So to my surprise, we're welcome. [2:41:42, 2:41:49]: Hi, my name is um Kathy Watts Jones. I'm vice president at Marketplace Storefronts, uh LLC. And um [2:41:50, 2:41:52]: I am I live at two [2:41:53, 2:41:57]: two five oh five Harmon Park Court Duluth Georgia and that's in Gwinnett County. [2:41:58, 2:42:02]: Wanna pull up a video? Um [2:42:06, 2:42:10]: I would like to um first of all I want to talk about um [2:42:12, 2:42:20]: On the this new development is going to be on the northwest parallel extension that's going to be going from Jotoko Road north up to Hudson Bridge Road. [2:42:20, 2:42:31]: And the we're gonna have two components on the west side of the parallel expension will be retail. And that we're gonna have we want high quality um [2:42:32, 2:42:52]: uh restaurants we're gonna we're proposing a rooftop restaurant, hop to quality retail shops. And we see the vision of uh city of Stockbridge. We like the synergy, we like the things that are going on here. We thought this would be very good and we would be very compatible with our development. Uh I wanted to we we've we've currently built um [2:42:52, 2:42:56]: This will be our third project in Henry County. [2:42:56, 2:42:58]: We've uh currently built [2:42:58, 2:42:59]: Two. [2:43:00, 2:43:01]: Um [2:43:01, 2:43:02]: Uh [2:43:03, 2:43:10]: I wanna pause this for a minute. We've currently built two uh multifamily uh facilities, resort style. [2:43:10, 2:43:15]: uh resort style apartment complexes in Henry County on J on Jonesboro Road. [2:43:15, 2:43:17]: And we want to bring this project. [2:43:17, 2:43:27]: to the city of Stockbridge. I'd like to show you a brief video of our latest project that is Somerset, which is on Townsend of Village Drive in uh [2:43:27, 2:43:29]: Henry County and McDonough. [2:43:29, 2:43:29]: Okay. [2:43:30, 2:43:31]: All right, let me get this started. [2:45:37, 2:45:53]: So this is our current development that is already forty percent leased. We opened in um May of 2023 here in McDonald's. This facility is already forty percent leased. It's high quality, this is resort style living. Uh we have uh [2:45:53, 2:46:03]: Studios all the way up to three bedroom, three bath units. Our price points range from um the studios twelve hundred dollars up to over three thousand dollars for our three bedroom, three baths. [2:46:04, 2:46:13]: Um our average rents for the entire facility right now is 2200 square feet. And this is the same quality that we want to bring to the city of Stockbridge. [2:46:14, 2:46:15]: Uh we [2:46:15, 2:46:22]: We love what we bring. We bring uh a lot of energy. This it's self-contained. You got media rooms, you got um [2:46:23, 2:46:30]: Uh you've got a f a club room, meeting facilities, um, you name it, we've got it. [2:46:31, 2:46:31]: Okay. [2:46:33, 2:46:33]: Yes, sir. [2:46:34, 2:46:34]: Okay. [2:46:34, 2:46:54]: You you have some questions, sir? Yes. Go right ahead, please. So what you're proposing to build, is there some flexibility in that or is that kind of where you are that the product that you going to build right now? With that that's the product we build. That's the product we bring. It's center centi corridor. Uh we bring secure. We have three locks on all exterior doors. [2:46:54, 2:47:08]: with one of those locks, the only lock on the inside. And we bring all of the units have all the all the bedrooms have walk-in closets. You know, we got granite countertops, we got uh LVL on all the flooring. We bring high quality. [2:47:09, 2:47:29]: Well what I'm referring to is the overall appearance and then Ryan come back over. In terms of where we are in terms of the overall look that we approved on the uh overlay corridor, which is it's not very attractive to have the parking lot in the front of the building, that kind of thing. [2:47:29, 2:47:46]: Right, right. Probably Henry County. But what I'm saying is what w like what we did at Jodico, pretty much the parking is wrapped on the interior and then the building is on the outside. It's closer to the street, where that's the new modern type of feel. [2:47:50, 2:47:52]: Display here that shows the the buildings up on the street. [2:47:53, 2:47:54]: Yeah, that one. [2:47:55, 2:47:56]: I think it's the side plan. [2:47:59, 2:48:03]: Yeah. If you zoom in on that site plan, um [2:48:03, 2:48:05]: Can we zoom in on that? [2:48:08, 2:48:26]: Yeah,'cause that's kind of what it looks like, but the pic what you the video didn't show it didn't show that. So the video was of the facility that we have now. Okay. Well what I see on the rendering is that So this facility here, this is the northwest parallel and and the building is up up to the street. [2:48:26, 2:48:38]: Right. So you you're you're you're closer to the street and the parking is behind the building. Right. So if you if you come in on Jodicar Road, this is the elevation, there's a drop off here. So this'll be green space. You won't you know you [2:48:38, 2:48:58]: Right, right. There's a elevation drop off right there in terms of uh where you're going, but along the parkway it's pulled up and then that parking will kinda be shielded. Okay. Yes, yes. And then on the and on even on the retail side here, the buildings are on the street. This is on Jodoko Road, this side, and this is the northwest parallel on the road. Right. That's the more modern field. [2:48:58, 2:49:18]: With everything's pulled close. You really don't want to drive up and see a big parking lot at a lot of these, especially on the retail spaces. Uh where we're going. And we did get the condition of the ten foot pass, right? Yes. And that's good because uh in the original wish rendition of the Western Parallel Connector. [2:49:18, 2:49:38]: G DOT was only going to pay for five-foot sidewalks along the Jodeco side, along the bridges at Jodeco side, and this side. But with this development, this allows us to expand those paths to ten-foot wide, which will be consistent where we will be able to bike, walk, and even go. [2:49:38, 2:49:57]: golf cart that uh with uh with passage and yeah both of these sidewalks on both sides of the street are template. Absolutely so that's exactly what we want to be able to do to be able to uh fall in line with uh the walkability standards that we've set uh there at the intersection. Um [2:49:59, 2:50:19]: Talk about the I s I see uh you show you has so many amenities in there. And that that pool that we saw, is that what we're getting? No something similar. Each pool is unique. We designed them uniquely for each development. That's the pool that fit in that area. And so we are still in the design phase that was [2:50:19, 2:50:39]: Our first concept. But for here, we we we want something similar to what we just want that in the late. We want something similar to what we just saw. Oh, yes, yes, you definitely have something similar to that with the pool house cabana outside with the outdoor living spaces as well. You have fireplaces, outdoor fireplaces, gaming areas outside. [2:50:39, 2:50:53]: outside and inside. There's game room, interior and exterior, out outdoor spaces. There's car wash, a pet spot, pet wash for the animals outside. We ha also have dog parks within the facility on the on the um [2:50:53, 2:50:55]: on the uh multifamily side. [2:50:55, 2:51:01]: And Ryan, is is any of this signalized, is that intersection signalized at all or no? Which one? [2:51:02, 2:51:03]: Some of this. [2:51:03, 2:51:11]: Right. I know that the whether Judah called is already existing, the one in the middle. Is it signalized to enterize enter that? [2:51:12, 2:51:14]: I don't think so, not now. [2:51:19, 2:51:27]: Is it n is it or is it not? I'm not sure. I don't think so. No. No, it's not. It there's no signal there. [2:51:28, 2:51:48]: Well, let me interrupt for a second. I would imagine we should try to do that because you got the you got you got the departments on one side, you got the commercial on the side. The Western parallel is gonna be quite busy. So I would imagine I'd imagine you're gonna have to have a signal there. I would think so. And if we do when we do have a signal there, I wanna be consistent with what we did at the Jodico side, that we have the black [2:51:48, 2:51:58]: black uh mass post arm signals, not the wooden poles. I hate that we allowed that to go on Jodeco. We should have gotten black posts on Jodeco too. [2:52:00, 2:52:20]: But certainly the requirement would be that there will be black mass posts on signals at those intersections. Everything will be the black crosswalks. And then if allowed, we would do the street print. The street print at those exits right there. [2:52:20, 2:52:25]: There at the entrance on both sides that you would do the street print crosswalk. [2:52:30, 2:52:33]: Well you'd have the stamp paver crosswalks where it would be beautiful. [2:52:33, 2:52:35]: We will do um I think [2:52:35, 2:52:37]: I'm fine with that. I mean whatever the uh [2:52:39, 2:52:40]: G dot allows. [2:52:40, 2:52:45]: It certainly you would request it. If they deny it then there's nothing you can do, right? Yeah. [2:52:47, 2:52:49]: Okay. Th I have no other questions. [2:52:50, 2:52:54]: That's all the questions you have, sir? Yes. Okay, any any counsel, any other questions that you may have at all? [2:52:55, 2:53:13]: I I had a question but I think it's I've talked to Ryan and uh talked to Mr. Alexander on the conditions that he had uh negotiated and well not negotiated but had discussed with the uh developer. And so I'm I'm I'm fine with the uh product. Uh yes ma'am, go ahead please. How many commer [2:53:13, 2:53:16]: How many commercial pieces are part of this property? [2:53:16, 2:53:36]: Well the base the base foot piece is on the west side of east west parallel and that footprint is thirty thousand square feet on the footprint. It could be more than that because we are proposing two-story uh some two-story development with rooftop dining. So the square footage could increase, but the footprint is thirty. [2:53:36, 2:53:37]: Thirty thousand square. [2:53:38, 2:53:48]: So just that portion is commercial right there on the west what is that near the on the west side on the west side of Periloquin. [2:53:49, 2:53:53]: And how do you how many stores do you estimate being there? Retail space is that? [2:53:54, 2:54:00]: Well, um with most of them are what sixteen hundred square foot base on ETF. [2:54:00, 2:54:10]: or bigger, uh a single bay is usually around sixteen hundred square feet. And then um so I would with thirty thousand square feet, probably about eighteen bays. [2:54:11, 2:54:12]: Mm. [2:54:13, 2:54:15]: What do you think the size of the restaurant will be? [2:54:16, 2:54:21]: Um you you'll say our restaurants are a little bit larger. We we developed down on uh [2:54:22, 2:54:42]: um in Henry Marketplace and you've got restaurants anywhere from we've got some that like 5400 square feet, the uh juicy crab. I hope it's bigger than that. We got one that's 8,400 square feet coming down here. So it just depends on the restaurant. Right. It will depend on the tenant. Hopefully it'd be a high quality tenant. [2:54:42, 2:54:43]: A tenant, yes. [2:54:46, 2:54:53]: And the plan for the restaurant would be the one with the rooftop, is that what you guys are saying? Yes. [2:54:54, 2:54:54]: Okay. [2:54:55, 2:55:00]: Any question from the council? That'll be any conditions that that rooftop be included. [2:55:00, 2:55:02]: And plot cameras. [2:55:07, 2:55:15]: All right. On that note, uh I'm gonna open up the I did have a question. I'm sorry, go ahead. Um how many units again for this proposed development? [2:55:16, 2:55:19]: uh three hundred and twenty uh multifamily. [2:55:20, 2:55:21]: Thank you. [2:55:23, 2:55:24]: Any other questions? [2:55:26, 2:55:35]: What are the what's the price point range and how many or one bedroom slash three bedroom or or what's the largest amount of units? Um [2:55:36, 2:55:40]: The the smallest unit is 684 gigasquam. [2:55:41, 2:55:55]: Okay. And that would be our studio. And they go and that's a one bath. And then we have up to a three bedroom, three bath or the three bedroom, three bathroom is seventeen hundred square feet, and the three bedroom, two bath or sixteen hundred uh fifteen hundred and four feet. [2:55:55, 2:56:02]: So take me to the six hundred unit sch studio. How many of those will you have in this proposed plan? [2:56:03, 2:56:11]: The stu the studios we have twenty. It's four per billion. And what's the amount the average amount of cost on the rental for that? [2:56:11, 2:56:27]: Uh right now we're written on studios right around I think it's twelve hundred. No, it can't be twelve hundred. It got to be more than that. Well you might know better than I do, but [2:56:27, 2:56:42]: So it's twelve hundred for a studio. It's six hundred square feet, so I get it. And then one bedrooms right now winning for seventeen hundred eighty thousand square foot. Okay. Two bedrooms average twenty four hundred. Exactly. Two bedrooms is twenty four hundred. [2:56:43, 2:56:52]: And then a three bedroom is it's twenty seven sixty-two for a three bedroom, two bath, three over three thousand for three bedroom, three bath. [2:56:52, 2:56:57]: Okay. And how many three bedroom units do you prepare to have? Thirty six. [2:56:59, 2:57:02]: And then two bedroom units. One hundred and sixty. [2:57:03, 2:57:05]: And one bedroom units. [2:57:06, 2:57:08]: One hundred and twenty four. [2:57:08, 2:57:16]: And so and then you said twenty six uh studios, correct? No, uh twenty. Twenty, twenty studios. [2:57:20, 2:57:35]: So the So the proposal um this is Mr. Tim Jones. He's we've he's the owner of my own. Oh hey Mr. Jones, I've heard a lot about you, but I've never met you in person. It's nice to see your face. Yeah. And he said the mix could change, but we are zoned for a max of three twenty, three hundred and twenty units. [2:57:36, 2:57:42]: Three three hundred and twenty units. The maximum units that's currently chilled, but we're limited to three bedroom. [2:57:45, 2:57:46]: Okay. [2:57:48, 2:57:58]: That sounds like a good move. E limited three three bedrooms. So are there any there are no playgrounds or anything as a part of this? Yes, there are playgrounds. Yes. There are playgrounds. That's thirty six. Yeah, we do have playgrounds. [2:57:58, 2:58:02]: And a dog park and all of that other bunch of amenities. [2:58:03, 2:58:05]: And do it. Walking trails. [2:58:08, 2:58:10]: Any other questions for the council? Thank you. [2:58:10, 2:58:21]: And if not, we'll open up for a public hearing. So uh need uh folks that are on my left side, any c positive comments, comments for the approval of this particular development on my very left side. [2:58:22, 2:58:23]: In the middle. [2:58:25, 2:58:35]: On the right. Any comments that are not for this particular development or something that they need to say that's not uh not in a positive realm on the left side. [2:58:36, 2:58:37]: In the middle. [2:58:37, 2:58:47]: I'm all right. Well in this portion I see nothing for or against, so I'll close out that particular part of the public hearing. And counsel, uh if you have any other comments [2:58:48, 2:59:08]: Please uh is mention that now. If not, we'll go into our voting aspect here. Anything else? All right. So what we have now here is annexation of case AX two zero two three-04 council district five. Consideration request for annexation of property twenty-two fifty and twenty-two oh six Jotaco Road. [2:59:07, 2:59:20]: road located in unincorporated Henry County into the stop bridge city limits to allow for construction of a misuse development. Is there a motion to accept this? Yes, so moved. Is there a second? Mr. Blount second. All fair please indicate. [2:59:21, 2:59:27]: So now it's decision there. Comprehens comprehensive plan amendment KCP two zero two three-05. [2:59:28, 2:59:48]: Once again, Council District Five consideration requested to assign a future land use designation of high density mixed use uh to property twenty two fifty and twenty two oh six Julica Road located in unincorporated Henry County and to Starbucks City limits to allow for construction of mixed use development. Is there a motion to accept this? So moved. Is there a second? We have some conditions. [2:59:48, 2:59:50]: Okay. [2:59:51, 2:59:53]: The conditions are what? [2:59:53, 2:59:55]: That are that are contained within the staff report. [2:59:56, 3:00:10]: Uh trying to find the case. And add the condition this is a well add the condition about the uh the the uh the street print and then the uh mass post arm signals being black. [3:00:11, 3:00:15]: Flock, sorry. In the flock, yeah. [3:00:15, 3:00:16]: The boot. [3:00:17, 3:00:20]: And the rooftop restaurant being required. [3:00:23, 3:00:27]: I have a Mayor Ford, I do have a question. [3:00:27, 3:00:30]: So is this development? [3:00:30, 3:00:34]: Is it facing the interstate or is it facing Jodeco Road? [3:00:34, 3:00:54]: I'm confused about the address says Jodico Road, but you mentioned about the Western it will be facing the north the new Northwest Parallel. Okay. Thank you. And part of the retail will be facing Jodico Road, but the uh multi the mixed uh uh the rep mixed [3:00:54, 3:00:58]: the the multifamily will be facing the new Northwest terrible. [3:01:00, 3:01:03]: So you try what are you trying to find here, guys? [3:01:03, 3:01:08]: Ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Was there an answer on whether or not it was signalized? [3:01:09, 3:01:17]: Uh w I think there were uh it was basically just up the the the conditions that were previous that were previously associated with the case from Henry County. [3:01:18, 3:01:31]: Okay. Right. And if it's it certainly should be signalized as the mayor mentioned with the restaurant with the retail on one side and an apartment the other side, you don't want people go dunk I would imagine that it is signalized. We'll see. [3:01:31, 3:01:31]: Yeah. [3:01:32, 3:01:52]: So what are the additional conditions that are gonna be part of this and we gotta make sure we gotta track that we're in agreement with that? Um the the two the black mass post arm signals, the street print, uh and then the uh flock cameras. The and the and the rooftop re and the rooftop restaurant. And uh conditions that were uh previously [3:01:52, 3:01:56]: Right, on route. [3:01:59, 3:02:07]: Now that we mentioned that, is that in agreement with the developer that the the it's all right with those conditions. We're good. [3:02:11, 3:02:11]: Mm-hmm. [3:02:13, 3:02:13]: Right. [3:02:16, 3:02:20]: I'm sorry, ma'am. You know what? You need it. Come to the mic, please. I'm sorry. [3:02:24, 3:02:31]: The way it's designed now, the ten foot walkways are on the main streets, not within the development. Understand. Okay, and then the [3:02:31, 3:02:35]: The stamp on the road, we want that to be subject to the DOT approval. [3:02:35, 3:02:44]: 'Cause we if they d deny it then we don't want to be hung up on that. Right. Okay. Uh understand. But everything else we mentioned on on the c conditions are good with you on that aspect. All the other things I mentioned. [3:02:45, 3:02:50]: Mm. Oh yes, those are those are acceptable, yes. And Miss Halder you have all those written down? [3:02:50, 3:02:54]: Okay, so we don't need to go through them, we've got them all connected. Okay, so [3:02:55, 3:02:55]: I'm sorry. [3:02:56, 3:03:06]: I'm sorry, you got a question for? Yeah, go ahead, ma'am. Go ahead. This development has on site um does it have on site maintenance and management? [3:03:06, 3:03:26]: Yes, yes. We use professional management organizations to manage all of our developments. We we are a developer. We own the project projects. Uh right now at the Somerset we use Pegasus Residential LLC. They're a national company and they and they manage and they provide also the staffing for the maintenance and all of that. We also in our previous development we use Cortland. [3:03:26, 3:03:38]: And I'm sure you've seen Cortland all around town. Uh they manage that facility for us as well. Okay. [3:03:38, 3:03:48]: There is a mailbox, kiosk, that's located with so it's drive up so that the residents is out is outdoor and it also has a package delivery system as well. [3:03:49, 3:03:50]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [3:03:51, 3:04:03]: All right, so this is dealing with a comprehensive plan amendment for the K C P two zero two three zero five. Mr. Alzheimer, I believe you did a you w have a motion for this, accept this with the conditions? Yeah, with the conditions described by staff. So [3:04:03, 3:04:06]: Is there a second? Mr. Blount, second in all in favor, please indicate. [3:04:07, 3:04:08]: I do have a question. [3:04:09, 3:04:12]: Um the access to the right. [3:04:12, 3:04:13]: Go ahead. [3:04:13, 3:04:17]: Access points. Um this is a request for [3:04:18, 3:04:30]: Is this the comprehensive plan amendment case that we're No this is the yeah comprehensive plan amendment, that's correct. So the high density. The access points. Is there only one access point for this development? [3:04:32, 3:04:39]: So what we're asking for, the access access point, the main access point is here, and this is also an entrance exit here. [3:04:39, 3:04:40]: There's two. [3:04:41, 3:04:43]: On this side of the m on the multifamily side? [3:04:44, 3:04:46]: And then we have the access point here. We [3:04:46, 3:04:53]: We've asked for a a write-in right out here, but that's not on this site plan, but we've did requ ask for that. [3:04:53, 3:04:54]: Killed the [3:04:54, 3:04:55]: Thank you. [3:04:56, 3:05:02]: All right. Mayor Ford, those can yes, sir. Mayor Ford, those those conditions supposed to be with the rezoning, not the complaint. [3:05:03, 3:05:22]: Okay. Okay. So the which which one? Which which uh all of them we just mentioned or just Yeah, all of them that we previously mentioned they're they're uh with the rezoning, not the complain. All right. Comp plan doesn't have any conditions. Sorry about that. All right. So otherwise we need okay, we okay, uh Mr. Alzheimer's you need to re restate your emotion then please. [3:05:22, 3:05:28]: Uh so well I wanna approve it as uh described by staff. [3:05:28, 3:05:29]: Okay. [3:05:30, 3:05:31]: Okay, Mr. Blount, second then. [3:05:32, 3:05:34]: Any other questions? All Flavor, please indicate. [3:05:35, 3:05:55]: All right, examined decision. Now when it comes to the rezoning case, ha ha all right. RZ two zero two uh two three dash zero six council district five consideration requested assigned the zoning district to PUD Plan Unit Development to four parcels twenty two fifty and twenty two oh six Jodico Road locate unincorporated Henry. [3:05:55, 3:06:06]: County and excuse me, if and after the parcels are annexed into the city limits stop bridge, allow for construction of mixed use development. Now this is where all the additional conditions come in. Okay. [3:06:06, 3:06:15]: Now the ones that were previously stated and then what we added tonight. Yes. Okay, so it's that's a total of what, uh nine different conditions? [3:06:16, 3:06:20]: But miss I'll tell you what, let's go through this. Miss Holiday, what conditions do you have? [3:06:25, 3:06:36]: Yeah, what what would what the black top I mean the black mask, rooftop, the street pavers with the subject to uh G Dot's approval and flop camera. [3:06:38, 3:06:44]: Okay. Those were added to the questions would have been included in the uh staff report. [3:06:44, 3:07:04]: Okay, those are added to what was already initially uh brought forward by the by the staff. And once again, all those conditions that we that were previously stated and also what we added tonight are all good with the developer. Yeah. Okay. Let me answer your question. Now, uh we have street lights and uh associated with this. Yes. [3:07:04, 3:07:16]: Sir. Okay. It is required in the in parking. Okay, correct. Okay. Wait, Mr. Alexander, what's your motion? Uh I would like to motion to approve with all the added conditions described by staff. [3:07:17, 3:07:21]: Okay, is there a second? Mr. Blount Suckedena. All in favor, please indicate. [3:07:22, 3:07:28]: Genamous decision. Thank you very much. Congratulations. Look forward to this. Welcome to stock reading. Absolutely. Put it back for you. [3:07:29, 3:07:36]: All right, what we have next, adoption of the FY twenty twenty four operating budget and capital expenditures presented by Mr. Gardner, please. [3:07:46, 3:07:48]: I'll do the first. [3:07:54, 3:07:56]: Good evening once again, man, council. [3:07:58, 3:08:13]: So we've had our first two um readings on the b on the fiscal year twenty four budget, November thirteenth and november twenty eighth. This is a third reading of the budget for the adoption of the budget. By law you're only required to have two readings. [3:08:13, 3:08:33]: uh and the adoption thereof. Our budget and the general fund is set at twenty six thousand one hundred seven hundred and eleven seven hundred thousand seven hundred and eleven thousand six hundred and thirty six dollars for the general fund. I'll repeat twenty six thousand seventy six million seven [3:08:33, 3:08:53]: seven hundred and eleven thousand Jesus seven hundred eleven thousand six hundred and thirty six um dollars um overall general fund for the overall budget for the city including our enterprise funds as well as our spLOS uh funds is sixty one million [3:08:53, 3:08:56]: One hundred and thirty four thousand four hundred and seventy eight dollars. [3:08:57, 3:08:58]: Um you know. [3:08:58, 3:09:03]: Okay. Second question. Any questions for Mr. Gardner staff? I'm counsel, I'm sorry, council. [3:09:04, 3:09:05]: Yeah, for Yes, sir. [3:09:07, 3:09:10]: Mr. Gardner, thank you again for that. Um [3:09:11, 3:09:14]: At the last hearing I asked the question. [3:09:15, 3:09:18]: about the balancing of the budget. [3:09:18, 3:09:38]: And I asked um if there would be any um use of any other um entity or department to to actually to balance the budget. And I think at that time uh use [3:09:38, 3:09:45]: said uh no, I believe. So here during the adoption phase [3:09:45, 3:09:49]: Is there any other um [3:09:52, 3:10:05]: Any other financial entity that would be needed to balance this budget? No, sir, the bullet. The budget as presented to you, a budget is balanced across all f the general fund. [3:10:05, 3:10:10]: Um through our revenue sources, um, which are mainly property tax, sales tax. [3:10:10, 3:10:13]: Permit fees, fines, forfeitures, um, and such. [3:10:14, 3:10:16]: Okay, and and the reason I ask is if you recall [3:10:17, 3:10:20]: Um the the last year's budget. [3:10:20, 3:10:22]: We had to use [3:10:22, 3:10:24]: Uh another [3:10:24, 3:10:29]: uh financial source to to balance the budget, but this year we do not. [3:10:29, 3:10:31]: We do not anticipate that, sir. No, sir. [3:10:35, 3:10:37]: Any questions from the council? [3:10:38, 3:10:57]: Um I'm I'm I'm sorry, were you done, sir? I'm sorry. Well, I I don't have another question, but I do have something else, but I'll I'll yield to any other council members if they have a question. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. Yes, I just wanted to make sure, and just for the record, the engagement letter um issued for Malden and Jenkins. Um [3:10:58, 3:11:02]: А стіл хавнга. Ам стіл куриос і мрісте. [3:11:02, 3:11:07]: in the audit of the budget amendments and budget adjustments from twenty twenty two. [3:11:08, 3:11:08]: Um [3:11:09, 3:11:10]: I am [3:11:10, 3:11:11]: Reluctant. [3:11:12, 3:11:14]: to approve the adoption. [3:11:14, 3:11:17]: Because I wanna be able to see what the audit [3:11:17, 3:11:18]: Results were. [3:11:18, 3:11:19]: That's all. Thank you. [3:11:20, 3:11:20]: Yes, well. [3:11:21, 3:11:35]: Can any comments uh uh c Mr. uh Thomas, you have something else you want to add? Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. May I just ask um Mr. Gardner, can you please email that information to me as soon as possible? I was good before I leave here tonight. I appreciate it. You're welcome. [3:11:35, 3:11:42]: Mr. Thomas Quay, please. Yeah, I I I wanted to make a motion after we have exhausted all of the questions. [3:11:44, 3:12:00]: So if that's another question, Mr. Garner, I'd like to motion, and I wrote this down here, I'd like to motion to amend the city's organizational chart to move the events and the conference center. [3:12:00, 3:12:01]: Wonder [3:12:02, 3:12:03]: economic development. [3:12:12, 3:12:24]: Okay. I mean I w I uh okay we uh he made a motion we can also ask for a second emotion, but I imagine it would be some type of discussion on this'cause it's I have to admit, this is the first I've heard of this this this uh this aspect. [3:12:25, 3:12:29]: Uh just it just sort of dawned on me in a number. Well [3:12:33, 3:12:35]: I don't want to [3:12:36, 3:12:56]: disparage anyone or any department with this motion. But I just feel that for better operation that we guess and the conference center operation would function better. Uh presently is [3:12:56, 3:13:00]: It is under the city bench. [3:13:00, 3:13:04]: under uh every number. [3:13:05, 3:13:07]: Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am, you [3:13:07, 3:13:27]: Um, I i this kind of and Councilman Thomas, thank you for your opinion on that. I think this kind of caught me off guard. This is my first time hearing anything similar to this. Um and to me it could possibly um be a discussion um [3:13:27, 3:13:39]: for personnel, under exec in executive session. I mean, I just I kinda just gotten thrown off by it. Or maybe we can you know, revisit it at another time, but [3:13:40, 3:13:51]: I'm I'm not prepared to vote for that today because this is my first time hearing it. I'm not saying I'm against it. I just need [3:13:51, 3:13:53]: To hear a little bit more. [3:13:53, 3:13:56]: Well let me just e explain a little bit more. Uh [3:13:57, 3:14:07]: That's what I'm saying, Councilman Thomas. For the morale of the of the city. But it would not change it would not change the budget at all. I understand. [3:14:07, 3:14:12]: It's only an organization, a chart move. [3:14:12, 3:14:24]: I understand. Do you n you understand what I'm saying about it though? Like I I wanna hear a little bit more. I I just think that it's something that could possibly be discussed in executive session. [3:14:24, 3:14:37]: Let's do that. Okay. Mr uh for personnel. Thank thanks for it. Mr. Blood, you had a comment? Yeah, I agree to discuss it in Zag Session because if you change um if you remove it and put it up under the [3:14:37, 3:14:57]: Um, economic development director, the scope of work first of all changes. Yeah. And the um his specific duties changes because now he's got to get insight on what these two entities are doing, how they operate, what they're doing. It it just changes everything. Um I I just would hope that in the future. [3:14:57, 3:15:01]: the city gets to a point where well [3:15:04, 3:15:08]: If people are doing their job, then the job will get done. That's all I'm saying. [3:15:10, 3:15:20]: Alright, so Mr. Thomas, is y you'll be all right to having this second session discussion anyway before we go forward with this? Well, I I don't I don't have a problem with that. Um [3:15:21, 3:15:22]: You know [3:15:23, 3:15:26]: My concern is and a and again [3:15:26, 3:15:29]: I I don't wanna disparage anyone, but [3:15:29, 3:15:40]: The purpose of these hearings, the budget hearings, is to do just that. It's discuss the budget. Now whether [3:15:41, 3:15:45]: And if and if if if this was something that [3:15:47, 3:15:55]: That came to me yesterday, I would have put it out to the foot for the council just to get their thoughts on it. But it's not [3:15:57, 3:15:59]: It does not change the [3:16:00, 3:16:10]: the finances. It does not change the duties of the event staff or the conference staff. [3:16:11, 3:16:13]: It's just a move. [3:16:15, 3:16:16]: Imam. [3:16:17, 3:16:21]: For better operations of that particular entity now. [3:16:23, 3:16:25]: This is not the first discussion. [3:16:26, 3:16:31]: that we have had a matter of fact at the last council meeting when we talked about [3:16:32, 3:16:33]: The budget. [3:16:33, 3:16:36]: We talked about the conference center. [3:16:37, 3:16:42]: and the events. So that's why I thought that we had sorta discussed [3:16:43, 3:16:45]: That entity [3:16:47, 3:16:57]: And I just thought this would just be a a move that council would sort of understand because we have discussed this not only this year. [3:16:57, 3:16:59]: We've discussed this every year. [3:17:00, 3:17:03]: about the conference center and the event staff. [3:17:03, 3:17:10]: So it's not like this is the first time that any of us have heard this discussion. [3:17:11, 3:17:14]: And again, last month we talked about [3:17:14, 3:17:16]: Some of the shortcomings. [3:17:17, 3:17:17]: Oh [3:17:18, 3:17:21]: The conference center and the events. [3:17:21, 3:17:29]: So I just thought it would just be a natural move, but I'm willing to discuss it here now. I don't know if it should be [3:17:30, 3:17:34]: Uh an executive session, we're not talking personnel. [3:17:34, 3:17:51]: Well, I I have to admit I've but d you mentioned on a couple of occasions that this doesn't change the budget the budget uh f and this is a budget here in any way or the other. It's it's to me like it's more like a personnel change'cause you're changing no it's not personnel. Well that's why I'm looking at it. It's organizational chart move. Well, I mean it deals with personnel though. [3:17:51, 3:17:59]: It deals deals with personnel. But anyway, uh I I'm I mean that's what caught me by surprise personally. I mean I I don't think if we're gonna I think [3:17:59, 3:18:18]: You know, up to the council, but I think if we're gonna discuss it, it'd be a it'd be an executive session discussion versus doing it right now, right here on a budget on this particular budget hearing because once again it doesn't change the overall number in the budget. You indicated that a couple times already. Right. So I mean that's what we're supposed to be dealing with. The organization, a chart is a part of approving of the budget. [3:18:19, 3:18:19]: Okay. [3:18:20, 3:18:32]: Mayor. But but I but I would concede to discussing it later. I mean I I don't wanna get into a back and forth about it. I I mean it it's okay if the council wanna just leave it like it is. [3:18:32, 3:18:34]: But the only problem is [3:18:34, 3:18:37]: I don't want us to to continue to come back [3:18:38, 3:18:40]: And talk about the shortcomings. [3:18:41, 3:18:42]: Of the mural. [3:18:43, 3:18:46]: the events are the conference center, if we're not willing to [3:18:47, 3:18:50]: Іно мек чайс федера. [3:18:50, 3:19:05]: Uh all right, so appreciate it. Mayor, I think we need to uh caution ourselves when we go in specifics and hold those specifics for executive session because we do have personnel in those areas that we're speaking of. [3:19:05, 3:19:06]: Right. [3:19:07, 3:19:13]: All right. Um any other comments in reference to Mayor, in closing. Yes. I'm sorry. In closing. Yes, sir. Go ahead. [3:19:13, 3:19:19]: has nothing to do with personnel. It changes nothing about staffing, period. Nothing. [3:19:20, 3:19:20]: Mayor. [3:19:20, 3:19:21]: But uh but [3:19:21, 3:19:28]: Ma'am, we'll we'll just close on. I I I won't May uh I'll just withdraw. I'll withdraw the motion. Okay. All right, no problem. Yes, ma'am. [3:19:29, 3:19:49]: Well, I I I understand we were withdrawing, but I do wanna have I do wanna say something about that. I agree with you, Mayor. I think that it is part of personnel. We are talking about the budget. Even though the org TAR is attached to the budget, you're talking about chang not necessarily changing someone's position, but putting another layer on top of a [3:19:49, 3:19:55]: department and I'm not against it. I'm what I'm saying is there are other discussions such as [3:19:55, 3:20:05]: Do you wanna add that to an economic development or do you want him to focus on economic development? Or do you know, so there's a lot of things that I would rather discuss, but I don't think [3:20:07, 3:20:15]: On the dies is the place to do it. I think that the appropriate place is to discuss the reasons why we're doing this and what and what's going on. [3:20:16, 3:20:24]: in executive session if we were to do anything. That's why. Okay, fine. So outside of outside of that, any any other comments on the budget, if not. [3:20:24, 3:20:27]: I'll ask for a motion to accept the budget as it is stated. [3:20:28, 3:20:30]: So move. Is there a second? [3:20:31, 3:20:32]: Is there a second? [3:20:33, 3:20:33]: Sorry. [3:20:33, 3:20:37]: Mr. Alzheimer's second, all in favor of the budget, please indicate. [3:20:38, 3:20:41]: I'll pose. You sustain? [3:20:41, 3:21:01]: I will abstain. All right, four zero one stated my reason why earlier. Okay, four zero one uh uh uh passed. Okay. On that note, thank you, sir. Um what we have next is new business, but the the next three items on new business all deal with uh uh appointing people to certain committees. I did not well know whether or not we needed to go in this legacy session to discuss these or whether or not we do [3:21:01, 3:21:11]: do them out here in open session. You got the fill in you got requirements to fill the citywide development authority, you c Council Advisory Committee and also the Downtown Development Authority. Um [3:21:13, 3:21:19]: Yeah, well see yeah th and I think they're they may be more than one per section, potentially here. You have to look at'em. [3:21:20, 3:21:28]: So I didn't know if you wanna do this now or whether you wanna go into session, have that discussion, then come back and make those announcements. It may only be one per s section. [3:21:29, 3:21:31]: I'm sorry, ma'am. [3:21:31, 3:21:31]: Okay. [3:21:34, 3:21:36]: So go ahead. Go ahead, Madam Clerk. [3:21:36, 3:21:41]: We have two vacancies. Madam Clerk, you only c Yeah, come come forward please. [3:21:51, 3:21:57]: All right, good evening. So we have two vacancies on the city wide development authority. Okay. [3:21:57, 3:22:01]: And we have two applicants. Okay, two two and two applicants [3:22:01, 3:22:18]: a number of vacancies on the Stockbridge Youth Advisory Council, but we only have one applicant at this time. Okay. And for the DDA we have one vacancy that will happen with at December thirty first because we have a current um member [3:22:19, 3:22:22]: Who submitted their intent not to [3:22:23, 3:22:43]: remain on the board and will terminate at the end of this year. So this um application, the one application that we have would fill that vacancy. So otherwise for what are vacancies we have, we don't have we don't have overabundance like we don't have three or four people for one vacancy and things in that nature. It seems like it if we want to go through this we can go ahead and point it and it'll fit perfectly, I guess. [3:22:43, 3:22:46]: Yes sir. [3:22:46, 3:23:06]: I um I motion that we approve those three vacancies with the applicants for the positions that are salt police. Let's go one let's go one at a time, sir. Um okay Let's let's just go one at a time. Okay. Oh we'll s what's your question? My question is for the citywide development authority, are we gonna consider districts reps representation? [3:23:07, 3:23:15]: I I that's a good question. I I have not uh I w that's another thing we haven't discussed. At least I don't I've not been involved in discussion of that that I know of. [3:23:16, 3:23:19]: And I I kind of I know we had talked about it at one point. [3:23:20, 3:23:21]: Um [3:23:22, 3:23:35]: you know, possibly considering that so that we can make sure that we have a variety uh spread throughout the entire city. I think that that would be appropriate and not, you know, and so that it would be balanced. [3:23:36, 3:23:39]: throughout, especially the city wide I mean it's city wide. [3:23:39, 3:23:42]: So I I kind of wanna start [3:23:42, 3:23:45]: uh moving toward in that direction where we make sure that we [3:23:46, 3:23:48]: that each district has representation. [3:23:49, 3:23:54]: So on both the citywide and the D DA they have specific criteria? [3:23:54, 3:23:57]: Where you have to be a uh downtown. [3:23:57, 3:24:03]: Um, business owner. That's for D a resident. So I don't you don't have [3:24:04, 3:24:22]: But this five or six different um set of criteria that you could use to do that. Likewise for the D DA, you can be in the county, you can be a business owner, you could be a realtor or a banker. It does not state in your current um code that they be [3:24:24, 3:24:35]: Right. Uh district represented. So my concern is there are certain uh how many members are there on the city wide development authority? Seven. Okay. Including a member of council. [3:24:35, 3:24:40]: Okay. We don't have a member of council on the citywide development authority. Your [3:24:40, 3:24:41]: The um [3:24:42, 3:24:43]: Ordinance. [3:24:44, 3:25:04]: And the D DA by the D A law calls for a member of the governing body. It's just seem vacant. No, no, no. So I was on the D D A. I get that. The D D A I mean the city wide as well, a a a council member. Right. So I just want to focus on the city wide development authority right now. The D D A is specifically for downtown, so I get it. I'm not [3:25:04, 3:25:24]: Talking about that, there's specifics for that. Particularly, we hope to get mainly the businesses that are in downtown area to be on the DDA. Um, downtown development authority, downtown people who business owners who are there. That's common sense. But what I'm concerned about is the citywide development authority, even though [3:25:24, 3:25:31]: So they do have certain requirements and certain terms. Let's say they have we have five council members and a mayor, right? [3:25:32, 3:25:45]: Or we and then there might be a requirement that yes they have to somebody has to be on a and a business owner. I'm not necessarily sure what the city wide development authority requirements are, but [3:25:45, 3:25:50]: If each district I mean, I have businesses in my district. [3:25:50, 3:25:55]: Everyone does. And so I wanna I just wanna make sure that we [3:25:55, 3:26:01]: try to balance it out. And we had talked about this before and that I think would be fair. [3:26:02, 3:26:12]: And that's just part of the discussion for me. No offense to anyone. I just think that we need to think about that as far as representation is concerned, citywide. [3:26:14, 3:26:25]: Well, you know, we got it from the state. Yeah, I think what I was gonna say, I think we would probably have to do that we'd probably have to go back and change some make some changes in the charter or whatnot, staffing or whatever to do. [3:26:25, 3:26:30]: Uh designated. So I would think we would have to r and would these Where's the attorney? [3:26:30, 3:26:33]: She's over there. She's she's s she'll be s ma'am. [3:26:33, 3:26:44]: Can you come over here for me? Do you have an answer for us at all? Like with the city wide development order water requirements? Thank you, Miss Holliday, and I appreciate you with that. I and I I know what you're saying and I agree. [3:26:45, 3:26:47]: I just want to see what we can do and what we can't. [3:26:48, 3:26:55]: I'd have to pull the actual statute for you, but the Citywide Development Author the Citywide Authority is similar to the DDA. There are specific requirements in statute. [3:26:56, 3:27:07]: that outline what the vacancies sh how they should be filled. And it doesn't outline that there needs to be someone from each district as you outline to be appointed. [3:27:07, 3:27:09]: If you all want to do that as a counsel. [3:27:10, 3:27:16]: You could as long as it wasn't in violation of the current statute. I was gonna say if it's if it's a statute that we gotta follow, we we probably couldn't do that. [3:27:16, 3:27:28]: As long as it would the statute doesn't say you can't. So if you wanted to as a council make it to where it's per a person per district, you could. As long as you continue to meet the other requirements. [3:27:29, 3:27:44]: Hm. Okay. So that makes a big big difference. It doesn't speak to a person from a district at all. So you if you wanted to have a person per district, you could. [3:27:45, 3:27:50]: By council. You'd have to add extra members to do that? Yes. Basically. [3:27:51, 3:27:52]: That's a lot. [3:27:52, 3:27:52]: All right. [3:27:53, 3:28:13]: Okay. So f food for thought for later. I I maybe because these this type we have a timeline here and these these vacancies to get them done. But anyway, what I like to do is that w uh council consideration to fill the vacancy to appoint member of the citywide development authority, fill an uninspired term and and uh what I have here what what we have here is uh Davarek Morgan is the only individual [3:28:12, 3:28:15]: Oh wait a minute now, hold on. [3:28:15, 3:28:17]: Is that was it uh [3:28:18, 3:28:20]: Debric Morgan and [3:28:20, 3:28:22]: Terry Terry Marie Cleeton. [3:28:22, 3:28:27]: And and they're those are two those are two people, right? They're two people and they have two vacancies. [3:28:27, 3:28:29]: Yeah. [3:28:29, 3:28:41]: If okay. So if there uh I don't know whether or not the motion to approve. Mokay, Mr. Bless said motion to approve. Is there a second to that motion? Second. Mr Mr. Second. All in favor, please indicate. [3:28:42, 3:28:45]: Is he not okay, all posed? You you approve? [3:28:45, 3:28:58]: Okay, so it's a Navajo decision. All right, then uh council consideration to fill vacancy appoint member of the youth council advisory committee to fill an expired term. And what we have, uh have one person of Paige Jones. [3:28:59, 3:29:04]: Okay, from ms Mr. Blount to Ms. Gantt, all in favor please indicate. [3:29:05, 3:29:15]: You now see n Mr uh Thomas? Okay, you good? All right. She announced decision there. And then council consideration to fill vacancy to appoint member of downtown development authority to fill unexpired term. [3:29:15, 3:29:17]: And I have a Darrow Stamper. [3:29:17, 3:29:18]: Okay. [3:29:18, 3:29:19]: Is that to only one person? [3:29:20, 3:29:24]: All right. [3:29:24, 3:29:27]: You did Ms. Gantt? Okay. Ms. Gantt second that on fair please in the K. [3:29:28, 3:29:29]: Uh, financial season, okay, fine. [3:29:31, 3:29:32]: All right. [3:29:33, 3:29:38]: Well we have now the announcements of upcoming uh meeting events. Uh let's see here. [3:29:40, 3:29:57]: Council meetings will be held in City Council Chambers. Meeting dates and times are subject to change. Please visit, of course, the city's website at www.starbridgega.org. Facebook page or contact city hall offices at 770-389-7900 for updates. [3:29:57, 3:30:04]: Upcoming meetings and announcements. Council meetings will be held in the city council chamber meeting dates, location and times are subject to change. [3:30:04, 3:30:15]: Well contact City Hall offices at 770-389-7900 for updates. City Council work session scheduled for Tuesday, December 19th to 6 PM has been canceled. [3:30:15, 3:30:35]: Startbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting first Thursday of each month at 6 p.m. at Startbridge Police Community Room, 4545 North Henry Boulevard is January 4th. City Council meeting second Monday of each month at 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chamber is January 8th. Youth Council meeting at 6:30 p.m. second Monday of each month. City Hall Leave. [3:30:35, 3:30:55]: Levi Meeting Room January 8th. Citywide Development Authority meeting second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, January 9th. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month at the Welcome Center Main Street office located at 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, 9 a.m. January 12th. [3:30:55, 3:31:03]: A Downtown Development Authority meeting, third Tuesday of each month at the Welcome Center 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. [3:31:03, 3:31:04]: January sixteenth. [3:31:05, 3:31:25]: Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6 30 p.m. third Tuesday of each month in the Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, January 16th. Planning Commission meeting, 6 30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, January 24th. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, January 30th. Upcoming event. [3:31:25, 3:31:45]: Join Councilman uh John Blount for Seniors Bingo Bass Wednesday, December 20th from uh 10 a.m. to 12 noon in Merrill Manor's Conference Center, which is at 111 Davis Road. All right, gains, free prizes, snacks. Join Councilman uh Alfonso Thomas, District 2 Rep for free smoke detectors to [3:31:45, 3:31:54]: to protect your family and home. Saturday, December sixteenth, it's this coming Saturday, twenty twenty three, right? Eleven A. M. to twelve thirty PM and ninety nine hundred [3:31:55, 3:32:01]: uh Davison Parkway, right here in Stockbridge, and be there bef uh supplies last. They'll be there until supplies are all taken gone. [3:32:02, 3:32:22]: All right, uh join me, Mayor Ford, if a monthly meet the mayor on Monday, December 18th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon. Please contact Roslin Rawls to schedule an appointment at 678-833-3348 or via email at R. Rawls at city of Stockbridge-G A dot G-O-V. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Tran. [3:32:22, 3:32:42]: At Stockbridge Initiative Center Around Education, highlighting the cause and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow. And also join Councilman Thomas for honoring veterans with continuous salute to all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans and their names, branch, branch, rank, and years of service to R. Rawls, the city of Stockbridge, dash G A.g. [3:32:42, 3:32:57]: And for my personal comments here, COVID-19 is still in effect. So make sure you take your booster, take your flu shots. We want you to be healthy during the holiday season so you can spend time with your family and friends and relatives and Merry Christmas to everyone. Happy holidays. [3:32:58, 3:33:02]: And course once again uh have a safe holiday and and make sure that obviously [3:33:02, 3:33:22]: Be prepared for our outstanding prosperous year in the city of Stockbridge as we continue to move the city forward and uh keep the faith with us as we uh continue to do the best we can to serve our our citizens, citizenry, you all. All right. God bless you all and keep the faith and once again happy new year and Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everybody. On that note, uh make an advancement for weekend. Yes, sir. [3:33:22, 3:33:32]: Sir. Mind I'm not going to go. Yes, sir. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Go right in. Well I just want to make a quick announcement before we uh go uh break off uh into uh hopefully executive session. [3:33:32, 3:33:40]: Uh, one of the things I've done over the last eight years is to serve the city of Stockbridge. I've been I've served diligently in the best way I could. [3:33:41, 3:33:46]: and I thought was best for the citizen. Like I tell anybody, nobody comes into this position [3:33:46, 3:33:51]: None of us in order to say, hey, I'm gonna go in there and mess up the city. [3:33:51, 3:33:53]: Everybody up here has a heart for the city. [3:33:54, 3:33:57]: And I uh my prayers are with each and every council member up here. [3:33:58, 3:34:18]: That they continue to diligently work for the city. Um, I think we're leaving this seat in uh good hands. Uh good brother. Uh love the Lord, fellow Jaguar. Uh we had many conversations, and I look forward to not only being your neighbor, being your friend, and uh welcoming you as a new leader, uh, one of the leaders in the city of Stockbridge. [3:34:18, 3:34:24]: and uh uh welcome aboard and uh to my colleagues, I wish you all well and thank you all. [3:34:25, 3:34:33]: All right, well, thank you, Mr. Blount. Uh been wonderful eight la last eight years. Eight years. Jeez, time flies. My God, time flies. All right. [3:34:33, 3:34:41]: So on that note, we have a second session, ladies and gentlemen. So I need a motion to go to a second session, please. Okay. Mayor Ford? Yes, sir. Coming Java. [3:34:41, 3:34:55]: If the executive session is based on my motion, I I withdrew that and it's No it's not sir. It's not based on your motion. All right. Okay. So I need but uh need executor for for legal, yeah, part uh personnel, legal, and real estate. [3:34:55, 3:35:00]: All right. I second. Okay, from Mr. Blount to Ms. Ken. All favorite, please indicate. [3:35:01, 3:35:03]: Opp all opposed? Abstain? [3:35:05, 3:35:06]: Mr. Barber? [3:35:06, 3:35:08]: I don't know what this [3:35:08, 3:35:28]: I'm sorry? I don't know what executive session um is about. It's either gonna be personnel, real estate, or or um Okay. Does everybody else here know what we're meeting about? In particular? We just in general. It's in general. I support. I approve. I'm sorry? I approve. Okay, you approve. It's announced decision. [3:35:28, 3:35:30]: We'll go to the next session. We'll be back, folks. [3:35:46, 3:35:47]: No, these year. [3:35:51, 3:35:55]: Yeah, yeah. [3:36:09, 3:36:14]: Yes, sir. [3:36:25, 3:36:30]: Yeah. And it's now that's fine. [3:36:38, 3:36:39]: I don't know. [3:36:40, 3:36:41]: Yeah, so we can reconvene and get yeah. [3:36:45, 3:36:46]: [13007.4, 13010.4]: What's he talking to? Do him. [3:37:06, 3:37:07]: Yeah. [3:37:40, 3:37:41]: I thought Harold left. [3:37:49, 3:37:50]: Yeah. [3:37:51, 3:38:11]: All right, council. Um I need a motion to end our executive session, please. Second. Okay. And all favor, please indicate. Now I need a motion to reconvene our uh council meeting, please. Second. Okay, second give a second to Mr. Ms. Gann here. All right, from from our executive session, we have a a uh motion that we need to do [3:38:11, 3:38:18]: In reference to a property on one fourteen Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail to be transferred to the DDA, is my understanding. Is that correct? [3:38:19, 3:38:22]: That's correct. All right, I need I need a motion to approve that. [3:38:22, 3:38:23]: Um [3:38:24, 3:38:30]: I'm motion to approve. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Alzheimer's second at all in favor, please indicate. [3:38:31, 3:38:33]: Okay, fantastic. Now on that note, uh [3:38:34, 3:38:40]: Uh I need a motion to end our sec uh to end our city council meeting. So moved. Uh from Mr uh Thomas. [3:38:40, 3:38:43]: I second. Welcome Ms. Gantt. All favor please indicate. [3:38:44, 3:38:45]: Good night. God bless you. [3:38:45, 3:38:47]: We'll see ya next year. Happy New Year.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2023-11-28 source: 2023-11-28_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:52, 0:01:07]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, uh we'll get started with our meeting this evening. Sorry about the delay, had to take care of something here. And so I have six oh four and uh so I'd like to call our meeting uh city council work session to order. Uh this is November twenty-eighth. [0:01:08, 0:01:15]: And on that note, um invocation, Miss Gamp, please. If please stand if you everybody please stand if you can. [0:01:16, 0:01:17]: Move our hearts in prayer. [0:01:18, 0:01:30]: Father, we come to you as humbly as we know how. We thank you, Lord, for our families, our friends, and those that support us and and those that are are here within the city of Stockbridge. [0:01:31, 0:01:34]: We thank you Lord for our admin team and our staff. [0:01:34, 0:01:41]: And for this mayor and council, and we ask that you be with them as they make the decisions. [0:01:42, 0:01:56]: in the manner that they find are within the best interest for Stockbridge. Lord, we want to especially thank you and send prayers to those who are are sick and those that have loved ones. [0:01:57, 0:02:00]: who they can't reach out to today or they can't get to. [0:02:00, 0:02:02]: During these holiday times. [0:02:02, 0:02:22]: And we ask you that this that everyone acknowledges that this is the season to give and to love. With these things, in your name I pray. Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic. [0:02:22, 0:02:28]: But we just stand under the individual liberty and justice. [0:02:30, 0:02:31]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:02:35, 0:02:48]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Let the record reflect. Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:02:48, 0:02:55]: Present. Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Um [0:02:56, 0:02:57]: Council. [0:02:57, 0:03:00]: There's an amendment to the agenda I'd like to present to you. [0:03:00, 0:03:13]: Um to consider transfer to parcel of zero uh three two dash zero one zero dash three hundred fifteen three zero zero one five to the citywide development authority. [0:03:15, 0:03:16]: Want to add that to the agenda, please. [0:03:17, 0:03:19]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:03:19, 0:03:21]: Certain. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:03:23, 0:03:26]: Okay, so now it's decision on that point. So on that note we will [0:03:27, 0:03:37]: On that note, we will put that uh right after the number nine on new business. We'll add that number right after new business. All right. [0:03:37, 0:03:41]: Mayor Ford. Yes ma'am. [0:03:41, 0:03:42]: I'm sorry. [0:03:42, 0:03:57]: An adoption of the agenda as amended. Yeah y well, we're gonna do that in just a second. Yeah, we'll do that in just a second. We'll do that in just I just wanted to make sure I don't forget to add this in. It'd be number ten on the item uh for the agenda tonight. Uh we were moving item number ten. [0:03:58, 0:04:12]: Uh eleven. I'm sorry, eleven. Thank you very much. Eleven. Eleven it is. Eleven. You're right. Eleven it is. Thank you. All right. So on that note, I need a motion to adopt the remainder of the agenda, please. Some moved. Okay, is there a second? Sir. Okay, for Miss Gantta Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. [0:04:13, 0:04:22]: Okay, Nam says, Thank you very much. Okay. On that note, Council, you have before you the uh draft uh minutes for the October 9th, Council. [0:04:22, 0:04:25]: meeting and also the October thirtieth Council Work Session. [0:04:25, 0:04:32]: And um so if you have any changes potential changes to that, please let the c uh clerk know that and we'll be able to [0:04:32, 0:04:33]: approve those that are next. [0:04:34, 0:04:37]: a council meeting which would be on December eleventh. [0:04:37, 0:04:40]: Uh Madam Clerk, or do we have any public comments at all? [0:04:41, 0:04:53]: Okay, thank you very much. On that note we'll go to item number three, which is a presentation, presentation of transportation improvement project for Valley Hill Road, presented by Mr. Gardner and Mr. Aaron, please. Gentlemen. [0:05:31, 0:05:40]: Good evening, Mayor, Council members. Um as you know, we've had some discussions over the last uh few months regarding um the conditions of Valley Hill Road. [0:05:41, 0:05:46]: Um and you guys might have seen some of the email traffic um going back between um [0:05:46, 0:06:06]: uh district, uh the city ma city manager, mayor, I mean city manager, county manager, um district county district commissioner and uh uh city council district member regarding the road. We actually met um collaboratively um with Henry County, um Deshes and myself as well as Sherry Matthews, the county manager. [0:06:06, 0:06:26]: And her transportation folks to look at the conditions of Valley Hill Road. What we found based on there was a couple of areas that really were in need. We were able to go back and look on Google Earth and track the conditions of the road and specifically in the area just. [0:06:26, 0:06:46]: North of um Valley Hill Station. I think I got it right. Um, especially where the where the the large trees of of on both sides of the right of way. Is it mic on, sir? Yes, it is. Okay. Um on both sides of the right of way. There the conditions of the road was was deteriorating and recad. [0:06:46, 0:07:06]: See it going back to 2015, 2012, and then coming forward, you could see the condition of the road. And so the county did their assessment and they came up with um 400,000 to repair the road. Um at our level, we had agreed that we would split that cost. They would get the consultant, we would split the cost. [0:07:06, 0:07:26]: 50-50. So we put it on the agenda to have the discussion and hopefully get a vote from council to move forward with fixing putting our portion of it in. I know that the district count district commissioner and the county manager working with the county chair to put it on the county's agenda so that the county commissioners can vote to appropriate. [0:07:26, 0:07:33]: create the funds um necessary to to make this collaborative effort happen. And with that we're open for discussion. [0:07:33, 0:07:35]: Or in in questions, concerns. [0:07:37, 0:07:38]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:07:38, 0:07:42]: Thank you for that, Mr. Gardner and Mr. Aaron. Um [0:07:44, 0:07:46]: So all we got was just the [0:07:47, 0:07:54]: agenda item form, but no estimate of the total cost. I know that [0:07:54, 0:08:03]: in this it does mention the condition of the roadway on Valley Hill Road is marginal. I like to see the total assessment. I do support [0:08:04, 0:08:12]: Um the collaboration with Henry County to patch the areas that are most in need right now. [0:08:12, 0:08:14]: But I would I like to see the entire [0:08:15, 0:08:16]: Studying. [0:08:16, 0:08:18]: Or an elements that you all do. [0:08:18, 0:08:23]: Well, we didn't do a study. The county actually this was a county road and has been a county road since it was built. [0:08:24, 0:08:29]: The county did their assessment of all their county roads. This was included in it. That's where the marginal score came from. [0:08:30, 0:08:50]: So if you want a copy of that, we could get him, we could get him in the county to provide, we could provide that. But as it relates to us doing an analysis, we utilize the county's data and information that they put together to come up with that assessment. Can you send that to me? Yes, ma'am. Also the estimate. The estimate came from the county. They just sent it via email. I don't know what they did on their side, but their [0:08:49, 0:08:58]: Consulted their transportation consultant. Did they send you an estimate? They just gave us a number of the four hundred thousand and what it would cost them to to patch the road those roads in that area. [0:08:59, 0:09:03]: Okay, can you request the S T I like to see it too. Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. [0:09:06, 0:09:07]: Thomas, you have a question? [0:09:07, 0:09:27]: Okay. Uh uh. Okay, go ahead, Mr. Alzheimer. So certainly for I think that w this is something that we are we know that we're gonna move forward with. I commend um Commissioner Robinson and um Councilwoman Mel Mel Pratem Barber for working on this project as when we approve these projects. [0:09:27, 0:09:47]: We know that we'll have to use splotch dollars or we have to use available dollars in order to improve the infrastructure and the roads. But how you improve the infrastructure and the roads is that you have projects on these roads. The one reason that Valley Hill Road has seen zero dollars spent in improvements is because there had not been [0:09:47, 0:10:01]: In any projects on Valley Hill Road. Subsequently, we have approved two projects on Valley Hill Road, and amazingly, the county is willing to put the dollars forward that they were not willing to put before. [0:10:01, 0:10:21]: And we just gotta understand this is how Georgia works. It's not the way that we would like it to work, but it works backwards. You have to have projects in order to get transportation dollars spent and allocated to our projects, because economic development drives road improvements in the community. So certainly I applaud this effort, but I did [0:10:21, 0:10:30]: I would like to understand that it is more than just a patching for$400,000. We're going to do some actual paving, correct? [0:10:30, 0:10:50]: No, sir. In their estimation, the road does not at this point in time need to be totally repaved. Right. Based on some of the conditions that they've seen and we've seen with our roads. Um, but they did rec they did recommend that, hey, they would move, you know, move forward, look at the road. They came up with that assessment that you know they can we can do. [0:10:50, 0:11:10]: A patch in those areas that are needed, and that'll take us into the next couple of years before that road ever gets to the point where we're going to be able to do that. Okay, so when you when you say patch, you're not talking about pothole filler, you're talking about paving stretches. Yeah, cutting cutting a section out. Right. You're paving lot stretch stretches, fully repaving individual sections of the [0:11:10, 0:11:30]: road. So when when we talk about patching, we're talking about they'll go in and mill those sections as if they were preparing the road to repave the like a full depth reclamation. But for those bad locations and those are the b areas, it could be a fifty foot by a hundred foot section that gets that patch. [0:11:29, 0:11:37]: What which is like overlay. You're repaving that portion of the road that was deemed uh unsuitable. [0:11:37, 0:11:57]: Right. So in in essence, that n that section of the word row will be new at that point, fully reclamated and repaid for that particular stretch that they're putting in. We're not just filling in potholes. No. I just want I don't want to give that implication. We're doing it the right way. So when the full repaving does, they could just pave around those sections and and finish. [0:11:57, 0:12:17]: This shit, because certainly I don't think this is the end, Councilwoman Barber. I think we should certainly look at uh in the next T-SPLOST uh being able to put some dollars toward fully improving the road uh to go along with the projects that we already approved. So certainly I I appreciate that explanation and certainly I support. [0:12:17, 0:12:20]: uh moving along with this with the projects that we approved. [0:12:22, 0:12:26]: Another question is uh for our staff, counsel. [0:12:26, 0:12:26]: We're good. [0:12:27, 0:12:41]: And Mayor Protein Barber, I do have a actual physical copy. I'll send you of the assessment that we obtained from Herring County's website. So I'll give that to you tonight and send it to everybody, to the city manager tomorrow electronically to be distributed to everybody. [0:12:44, 0:12:45]: Okay, make the motion. [0:12:46, 0:12:46]: Mm. [0:12:48, 0:12:51]: Are there any other questions in reference to this item? [0:12:52, 0:13:12]: Okay, seems not. Okay, so the next thing is present uh presentation of approved service delivery for building and development inspections. But we have to have a vote. We wish the council to move forward, we would recognize the vote. That way we could let the county know that on our end we've addressed the issue. All right, then I need a motion for that then. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Okay, from Barber to Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. [0:13:12, 0:13:13]: Oh, now she says, All right. [0:13:17, 0:13:18]: It deals with spending. [0:13:18, 0:13:20]: To spending two hundred thousand dollars what amounts to. [0:13:22, 0:13:24]: Out of T Sploss, Davison Parkway. [0:13:27, 0:13:33]: Davidson Parkway and Old Atlanta Road. Yeah. It's listed in the it's listed in the agenda. Yes. [0:13:34, 0:13:39]: Presentation, staff recommendation. Do I need to clarify my motion, Mayor Ford? [0:13:41, 0:13:45]: Well, I tell you what, why don't you clarify to make sure we got it all right then? Go ahead, please. [0:13:46, 0:13:46]: Okay. [0:13:47, 0:13:53]: I moved to approve staff's recommendation to move forward with the repaving. [0:13:54, 0:13:56]: Sections of Valley Hill Road [0:13:57, 0:13:58]: Using [0:13:59, 0:14:06]: T Sploss funds of two hundred thousand dollars in collaboration with Henry County. [0:14:06, 0:14:07]: Sure. [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:14:10, 0:14:21]: All right, does that make it good for you there, Madam Clerk? All right, you're welcome. Good deal. Presentation next on approved service delivery for building and development inspections. Mr. Anderson, please. [0:14:35, 0:14:35]: [879.5, 881.5]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um [0:14:44, 0:14:54]: I res respectfully come before you for your before you tonight to ask for your approval of three key positions that are needed for the community development department. [0:14:56, 0:15:16]: The positions are the building official, building inspector, and permitting and building permit tech technician. There are several reasons reasons why these positions are needed. First, it will assist the department in its quest to continue to improve, to provide excellent customer service and improve. [0:15:16, 0:15:18]: deliver sir improved service delivery. [0:15:20, 0:15:40]: Um great inf greater efficiency, productivity, control, and accountability. And it's the next step in the evolution of the department is to evolve into a full service community development department by providing in-house building and permitting and inspection services. There are similar-sized cities that are full service. [0:15:40, 0:16:00]: Um community development departments such as McDonnell, Douglasville, Villa Ricca, Carrollton, and South Fulton. They all have in-house building, permitting, and inspections services. And number five, it's financially prudent and responsible to our citizens and taxpayers. If you take a look at [0:16:00, 0:16:03]: Look at the chart on the table. Um [0:16:05, 0:16:23]: You can see that we brought in so far you to date as of October the thirty-first, we brought in one point six uh one point six million dollars in revenue. And we've had to split that with the uh with the consulting company. We've we've sent out eight hundred and nineteen thousand five hundred and forty-five dollars. [0:16:23, 0:16:43]: The cost of the three positions that we were asking for is a total combined with French benefits,$330,144.69. If we had had our own in-house permitting service now, we would have sent$1.3 million into the city's general fund. [0:16:43, 0:16:45]: Um [0:16:46, 0:17:06]: It's anticipated that we could pro um probably hit the two million uh mark in revenue this year because uh as of the reporting date, we've hit one point six million dollars. So we really need these positions, like I previously said, so the department can involve into evolve into a full service community. [0:17:06, 0:17:17]: development department and we can control our own destiny and have more accountability and more responsiveness to our citizens and um just a better better overall customer service. [0:17:19, 0:17:36]: Well I would tell you, stand by I say I would tell you I'm I'm a firm believer it's always great to have your own in-house in this aspect as well. I'm assuming and the council wanna give their opinion in just a second, but uh I'm assuming up upon approval if this is the case that there there's enough space to put'em in your building and no problem. [0:17:37, 0:17:46]: Yes, sir. We'll make it make it work. Uh we have uh identified an area in the building where we where we would um retrofit to make several offices for those people. [0:17:46, 0:18:06]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Thank you, Mayor. Mr. Anderson. Yes, sir. Are you familiar with a study that was conducted three years ago? Um, Mr. Nighton was here as the city manager, and not at the last budget retreat, but the retreat before though, before this one. [0:18:06, 0:18:24]: Uh it came forward um when Mrs. Carter was here and and uh well first are are you familiar with the I'm familiar with the uh the proposal that Miss Carter presented, but this is a scale down version of of that proposal. Miss Carter asked for four positions. We're asking for three positions this time. [0:18:25, 0:18:45]: The only reason I want to bring that up because this has been my contention for the last three years, and uh Mr. Knight and I led that um research and it showed then uh with the surplus by bringing permit in-house. I spoke to uh Mr. Garner earlier today. [0:18:45, 0:19:01]: About it. He was vaguely familiar with it, but if counsel will recall, when Mrs. Carter was here, I think it was in Priestry City, it came forward then. And at that time, her concern was [0:19:02, 0:19:03]: I guess [0:19:04, 0:19:24]: being able to house staff wise um in the present condition. And I'm just bringing this up because uh in that study, and I know the numbers probably have changed since then, but uh but it did indicate a surplus and you indicated uh the windfall and the surplus that the city would uh recognize [0:19:24, 0:19:44]: if we did bring this in house. So um Mr. Gardner did indicate that he was going to pull that and uh I I think it is worth looking into because it was in depth. Uh we did the uh analysis, the evaluation, yes sir. And all of that. So it's I do have copies if you don't. [0:19:44, 0:19:50]: Yes sir. I don't know if if the clerk have any in in their office, but I do have copies. [0:19:51, 0:20:11]: In this presentation, we did the research in-house. We pulled the numbers from our system, the Aaron Guard system, and it showed that we had um received over$1.6 million in revenue so far, and we paid out$819,000 to the consultant. And and again, the study actually showed uh the surplus by having it in-house. And is that [0:20:11, 0:20:21]: mentioned uh Mr. Garden and I spoke about it and if you cannot find that I do have copies. Okay. Yes sir. Thank you. We can we'll we'll definitely accept that. Thank you. Okay, thank you. [0:20:22, 0:20:39]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead please. Thank you. I'm in favor of this if that's the question that's being asked. Um have no problem with it. I have I I would just wanna know do you wanna vote tonight for it or do you need us or just you're looking for council's direction in order to um [0:20:40, 0:20:41]: Put [0:20:41, 0:21:01]: a a I guess job request out there? What are what are you needing from us tonight? Are you gonna need a vote or are you gonna need a um what's your next step? Because I know you're gonna have to fill these positions. Yeah, uh the current contract um with the vendor ends in February. February. So [0:21:01, 0:21:10]: Obviously the sooner we could get we council will give us the approval to go forward in that direction, we'll give notice, but also at the same time start to advertise for those positions. [0:21:10, 0:21:21]: Okay. Mayor? Yes, ma'am. I would like to make a motion to approve this um uh um improved service delivery for building and development inspections. [0:21:21, 0:21:30]: Sir second that motion. Is it okay, Mr. Thomas, second that any further discussion of the other two if you want to s if you have anything you wanna say before we take a vote? [0:21:30, 0:21:32]: No, you good? I'm just yes, sir. [0:21:33, 0:21:34]: Go ahead, please. [0:21:38, 0:21:46]: I know you indicated that this was a scaled down version. I think you mentioned three positions. Yes, sir. Um [0:21:46, 0:22:06]: And I'm not really sure how many positions are there in the uh outsource entity, but do you foresee at some point in time and I don't know how many staff members that are needed in that whole department, but do you foresee uh [0:22:06, 0:22:26]: bring it in the full scale um in that department to to handle all aspect of running an inspection and et cetera. So right now we get pretty good we we get excellent service from our engineering consultant and he's he's he's very reasonable and it would be cheaper to to retain his services than to hire a full-time engineer. [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: But maybe later on uh we we will look at that if the city manager decides to do so. But right now, um our engineering services is cheaper than hiring hiring uh a full-time engineer. Right. So when the consultant contract ends in February. [0:22:46, 0:23:06]: Then other than the engineering position, we would not be outsourcing any aspect of permit and an inspection. That's correct. All right. Thank you. Mayor yield back. Okay, no problem. Thank you. I've got a motion on the floor. It's been made the second. All favor motion, please indicate. Still case unanimous decision. Thank you, Mr. All right. Thank you. [0:23:06, 0:23:06]: Appreciate it. [0:23:07, 0:23:25]: Thank you, sir. All right. All right, uh see. Presentation on but uh potential future development in the area under the approved master plan that provide for a coordinated growth of mixed use project. Mr. Gardner, please. If that was wrong, okay. [0:23:25, 0:23:26]: So [0:23:53, 0:24:00]: Good evening once again. Um, Mayor and Council, I'm kinda excited about this opportunity. We have um [0:24:01, 0:24:09]: Working collaboratively with the property owners as well as the owners representative and our planning staff. [0:24:09, 0:24:10]: Um [0:24:10, 0:24:14]: Regarding the the um Patrick Henry corridor. [0:24:15, 0:24:35]: Back in 2010, there was a LCI study that was done on the county side when this was mostly in the county that foresaw mixed use development, office development along that corridor. Obviously that plan obviously is now 13 years old, was not, and most of the properties are now in the city. [0:24:34, 0:24:45]: um when they were working the county back then. Uh and this was an opportunity to get with those linemeners. So rather than getting your regular strip centers with your nail and turn beds, [0:24:45, 0:25:05]: Um, getting your typical land uses that uh that you typically see, which is your strip centers and such, to this was an opportunity we saw to take advantage of that property, its location, its proximity to two exits in the interstate, and do something creative. Um, some of the stuff that we see typically see that happens um [0:25:05, 0:25:20]: In other communities. Uh as I mentioned to a group that I met with this morning, uh a hotel conglomerate, I made this exercise with them. I say if you took Stockbridge and turned took two eighty five and turned it around one hundred and eighty degrees, where would Stockbridge be? [0:25:21, 0:25:21]: Right. [0:25:22, 0:25:23]: And what would you be looking at? [0:25:24, 0:25:25]: You'd be looking at Roswell. [0:25:26, 0:25:27]: You'll be looking at Smyrna. [0:25:28, 0:25:30]: We would be in that corridor. [0:25:30, 0:25:31]: What's in that corridor? [0:25:32, 0:25:41]: Headquarters for Fortune 100, Fortune 500 companies, major mixed-use developments. Like you see, Avalon that I think this council visited. [0:25:41, 0:25:50]: Um you see count uh mixed use development that me and council member visited a few uh last year um over on Old Atlanta Road. [0:25:51, 0:25:55]: Да типа девелопмент да до наизи от сайтов Піч трі ситі. [0:25:56, 0:25:58]: They don't exist on the south side of a lot of. [0:25:58, 0:25:59]: Does not. [0:26:00, 0:26:09]: You can find those type of developments everywhere along major corridors on the north side, but you do not see those type of developments south of I-20, south of two eighty-five. [0:26:10, 0:26:12]: In what we call the southern cresting. [0:26:12, 0:26:20]: This is an opportunity for us to do something very creative and bring that type of development to provide for entertainment, live, work, play. [0:26:21, 0:26:27]: in an area through mixed use, vertical mixed use, as well as horizontal mixed use, development along this corridor. [0:26:27, 0:26:31]: Um the we've been working in earnest with the property owners. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: Um to make this happen. [0:26:33, 0:26:34]: Um [0:26:34, 0:26:43]: Today what you see in front of you is a plan that working with those guys collaboratively we came up with and I will tell you that there's a portion of this site that is actually already [0:26:44, 0:26:52]: Dedicated for a major luxury um auto dealer that wants to come into the side. I could say that much, but I can't call their name. [0:26:53, 0:27:05]: Um, but that's part of the development process. And what the development entails is you have vertical mixed use development where you have retail commercial establishment on the ground floor and you have residential and office above. [0:27:06, 0:27:26]: You also have um single family attached townhomes, multifamily attached apartments, professional office complex, other commercial retail and auto sales, and a couple of four potential four star hotels as part of this overall complex. I will say that this is still as much as we [0:27:26, 0:27:41]: we worked on this. There's been a couple of entities that have expressed um interest in this area that might shift this and that's the only reason why right to date that I'm not asking you to adopt it, but I wanted to bring it to your attention that this is what's we've been working on with those landowners over there. Um and if that happened [0:27:43, 0:28:03]: As much as I would hate that we would pretty much condense this plan if that happened, but it would be a huge if if what we're working on come to pass, it would be a huge win for the South Side and a huge win for the city of Stockbridge and Henry County as a whole. Um but we're working on that with the landowner and those private entities to make it happen. Um what does this mean? [0:28:03, 0:28:12]: I mean, this project went totally built, it built out as design over$300 million in investments in that area. [0:28:12, 0:28:21]: Um, what does it bring? New entertainment venues, new restaurant, new job opportunities, and that signature project to City of Stockbridge, Henry County that does not exist. [0:28:25, 0:28:32]: Some examples of what look like that other communities are built in their communities. These are some examples I wanted you guys to take a look at. [0:28:35, 0:28:55]: And this is one that uh Councilmember Narba m uh council member myself and Miss Barber visited a few uh back last year. Um over on Nair Smyrna in two eighty-five, that corridor over there, I was actually um planning director in in Griffin when this was built back in two thousand and four. Um it's really cool development, mixed use development. [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: with restaurants and retail. [0:28:58, 0:29:07]: Um in conjunction with single family detach, those values were pretty much in a million dollars on the single family side of this development. John Wheeling. [0:29:07, 0:29:08]: Yep. Mm-hmm. [0:29:10, 0:29:11]: Good. It's nice. [0:29:11, 0:29:14]: Was that the same? Is that the same? [0:29:14, 0:29:15]: Was that the same developer? [0:29:16, 0:29:17]: From Smarta. [0:29:18, 0:29:22]: Is this the one that we visited, yes. Oh. Yeah. Okay. [0:29:32, 0:29:40]: So with that, I I r just want council to recognize that we're working in earnest to to make this area um a signature area for the city. [0:29:41, 0:29:56]: Um and for the county as a whole and I know that there's maybe some objections, but we've actually presented this to some of our county folks and gotten some really good reviews back from them as it relates to this type project because they understand what it means and this would be one of the first that we're able to make this happen. [0:29:57, 0:30:17]: Um hopefully next month we'll be asking you guys to adopt this master plan that way we lock it in um once we know whether or not we're gonna land that big entity or not. And we should have that information fairly soon and we'll bring this back to be adopted as the official map for this this corridor from council. So it's just a presentation. Okay, Mr. Gardner, so otherwise this needs to still go before [0:30:17, 0:30:37]: This at some point, yes, it would need to go. Once you you would be adopted, we'll go to the official process, take it to the planning commission, and bring it back to you guys. And just for clarification, the map example on your right, that is actually the county's uh particular map several years or so ago. 2010. And this one on our on obviously is what's for [0:30:36, 0:30:42]: So on the screen this is what we're proposing right here in our community. Correct. Okay. Mr. Alezan, I'm pretty sure you have something you need to say. [0:30:42, 0:31:02]: Yeah, this uh this is certainly a shining star for all of South Metro and it will really change the map as far as what Stockbridge is concerned. Go back to those renderings of those beautiful class A spaces that we just don't see in this area. [0:31:02, 0:31:12]: Um and that that is those will be required these standards as in class A will be required in these developments, correct? [0:31:13, 0:31:33]: That is correct. So what it what what the plan is for this particular area, and you know, it took a long time for us to get moved in on the Jodico project, but to uh to actually use a lot of those same standards like we used over there with the 10 foot multi-use pass, uh the street lighting. [0:31:33, 0:31:53]: Uh certainly in the discussions that we've had, brief discussions we've had with uh the project uh coordinator, certainly they've been agreeable to having that there be a walkable community, uh requirements for the electric car charging stations, uh the things like we see at the Jodico project with the black mass pumps. [0:31:53, 0:32:13]: Post-arm signals and the um to make sure that again everything is connected over there. And again, as we move down Patrick Henry Parkway, not only will we have the trails uh along the frontage along that side, certainly it will be inside the uh the development as well. [0:32:12, 0:32:32]: And then I think there's only so much that we can say, but we can pretty confidently say that we have, as you have said, there are some major players who want to come and locate in Stockbridge that we cannot identify at this particular time because we have non-disclosure agreements with them. But if people knew who they were, it would be [0:32:32, 0:32:34]: Earth shadowing, would you say? [0:32:35, 0:32:35]: Yes, sir. [0:32:36, 0:32:42]: And that's that that's pretty much all that we're gonna be able to say here and to understand that in addition to that [0:32:43, 0:32:55]: Uh there will be some road improvements that'll be made along with this as well, widening a portion, adding XL, D cell lanes and such, improving the cor improving the corridor, correct? [0:32:55, 0:33:10]: That is correct. And and this is something that we obviously will be discussing with the county is what as you know, Patrick Henry right now is two lanes. The two lanes that you currently go s north and south on will actually be the northbound side of the road. [0:33:10, 0:33:12]: So the right of way [0:33:12, 0:33:29]: is already there to add the southbound two southbound lanes to this corridor. And that will be something that we discuss um collaboratively between the city and the county as we go through splus. And I understand you were there I guess when all of this were you there when they when they dealt the Patrick Henry Parkway? [0:33:29, 0:33:31]: Were you with the county at that time? [0:33:31, 0:33:51]: When they did when they originally did Patrick Henry Park. No. Um I I'd already left the county when they built when they built the when they tied the two together. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Michael Harris was there, I think, at the time. And what they did was they actually built it so, as you said, with the two northbound lanes on one side, and they didn't build it with the curb and gutter, they built it with [0:33:51, 0:34:08]: with the median basically so that they could add the two lanes uh over to that side and this property uh obviously that right of way will help us with the two additional lanes will help us accommodate uh additional traffic in that area and to be able to improve [0:34:09, 0:34:23]: this project at the cost of the developer versus us having to go to our T splice and our splice dollars that uh in accordance with approval of this project, that will those improvements will be required, correct? [0:34:24, 0:34:44]: Uh in the conversations we've had with the developer in the county is potentially looking at a obviously public private partnership where they would put in half of the cost and the city and the county would split the other half. Okay. So the So again the plan is to widen the road in in a public private [0:34:44, 0:35:04]: Partnership where the developer takes a takes at least part of the cost off of us so that we would not have to go to taxpayers for that particular entity. Correct? Correct. Okay. Well, certainly I I think uh certainly I'd like to hear what the rest of the board had to think, but certainly this is in accordance with what we [0:35:04, 0:35:19]: we did at Jodico and the presidents that we set uh to make sure that everything that we brought into the city would be of a class A standard in the area and to uh seek additional transportation dollars to improve the entire quarter. [0:35:20, 0:35:22]: Councillor, uh Ms. Gantt you have a comment? [0:35:22, 0:35:26]: Yes, I I love it. I think it's gonna be phenomenal. Um [0:35:27, 0:35:35]: It's well needed and I'm excited about the potential of some of the businesses that will come. Um, I'm really excited about it. [0:35:36, 0:35:39]: All right, good deal. Anybody else? Miss Barber, you have a comment at all? [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: No. Mr. Thomas? [0:35:43, 0:35:59]: No, I I think we're all in favor. I I won't uh repeat what everyone has said, but uh I I think it's great and I think we're all in favor. All right, good deal. So so otherwise you you're gonna it's gotta go to the planning commission and eventually come back to us again as well. Yes. For okay. [0:36:00, 0:36:02]: And you have a particular timeline for that, sir? [0:36:02, 0:36:20]: Uh hopefully we'll be able to get everything if we once we know um with the entity that's looking in this area, if that issue falls through, um, then we'll keep the same design. If it doesn't, we'll redesign to incorporate them in it and bring and bring it back through and let you guys know what happened. [0:36:20, 0:36:33]: Before the end of the year or the first part of the next year? Uh it'll come we put it back through the process. It'll call probably go to Planning Commission in January and probably to you guys ne in February, early February. So be it. Thank you. Yes, sir. [0:36:34, 0:36:39]: All right, presentation of proposed street light assessment program. Mr Aaron, please. [0:36:59, 0:37:19]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh tonight we come before you with the presentation. Staff was tasked with um looking at developing a streetlight assessment. As we're well aware, as we begin to add more and more developments, the streetlight account continues to escalate. It's not going down. And also recently there's [0:37:19, 0:37:38]: There's been a flood of emails in reference to the properties that were annexed into the city. But the county was billing those street like districts. And so there's some correspondence going around that they're gonna turn those over to the city for, you know, billing and cost for the electricity for. [0:37:39, 0:37:41]: those subdivisions and [0:37:41, 0:37:44]: those thoroughfares that were annexed into the city. [0:37:45, 0:37:48]: So one of the things we we wanted to discuss was [0:37:49, 0:37:56]: How do we go about recouping some of the costs that the city spends for street lights? Because currently [0:37:57, 0:38:17]: In the FY 2024 budget, the city is projecting that we'll spend eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars on street lights. And that does not include the ones that were recently approved on Spear Road, the ones that are on Campground Road. So eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars represents about a half a meal of that two three point seven seven. [0:38:17, 0:38:25]: Meals in taxes, a half point five meals would go towards street lights. And based on the information I've received, [0:38:25, 0:38:45]: That once those annexed properties come online and the city takes responsibility for that, then three-quarters of a meal would be for street lights. And so there are three options available to us as to how we go about paying for street lights. And one option is the city. [0:38:45, 0:39:05]: And the resident share the cost of the street lights. Residents in this model, every parcel in the city would pay a portion of streetlights because everybody benefits from it. It starts off with a percentage, like they pay 25%, the city pays 75 cents, it goes [0:39:05, 0:39:07]: to a fifty fifty split. [0:39:07, 0:39:09]: And then there's an option where [0:39:10, 0:39:13]: that the county and locals grove uses is that [0:39:14, 0:39:19]: We would pay for street lights on major thoroughfares and then all of the subdivisions [0:39:19, 0:39:28]: Every parcel in that subdivision would pay their pro rattle share of the bill. So if the annual bill for that subdivision is [0:39:28, 0:39:48]: $5,000 and there's a hundred homes in there, so they'd be assessed. The hundred will divide that five thousand amongst the hundred, and that's how that would be paid in the neighborhoods. And you would also going forward, all future development, you would require them to sign a street light petition up front where they agree to pay. [0:39:48, 0:39:55]: the assessment for the street lights in the city does not pay. And then the last one would be [0:39:55, 0:40:10]: you pass a hundred percent of the cost on to the residents. So we got three options and before we go down the road of developing an actual assessment, I wanna get what's council opinion, which one do they want us to pursue. [0:40:11, 0:40:15]: As far as coming up with the street light districts and assessments. [0:40:15, 0:40:35]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. Go ahead please. I I kinda like this. I I do have some concerns that if it because the the um tax that we have, we have a police department and that money was to be allocated because the budget will increase, has increased tremendously. [0:40:35, 0:40:41]: easily. So um m one that's a concern of mine. I believe [0:40:41, 0:40:50]: That we have to do something about the streetlights in the in communities and get a control get it under control now. [0:40:52, 0:41:12]: I like the second option you stated in regards to the subdivisions. Um, you know, and and let them handle how they pay for their street lights in those commun in in the communities. And the reason I say that is um when I started calling around as well, looking at other cities. [0:41:11, 0:41:26]: and other communities exactly like you had mentioned Locust Grove and the county does as well. Other cities do that too because we're growing and we're not in the business of street lights. [0:41:27, 0:41:41]: We're not in the business of it. We're not in the business of paying streetlight um for every community. Um there's a lot of cost that would be involved. And so I think that each individual neighborhood would should be responsible for their streetlights. [0:41:43, 0:41:44]: Ms. Alzheimer's great please. [0:41:45, 0:42:05]: Uh I re I really concur with that. I think for consistency's sake that residents, no matter whether they're in the county or in the city, should have the same process. So if they move, they know what what the situation is going to be no matter where it is, and that it makes sense for us since most of the major [0:42:05, 0:42:25]: Projects are on long major thoroughfares for us to work with the developer to install the lighting and then for us to assess those costs accordingly and then potentially work in some project sharing with the developers of these particular projects so that they are taking [0:42:25, 0:42:45]: Taking on some of these costs. I think the county adjusted their uh highway corridor plan to require streetlights be installed with all of these new developments instead of just inside the development than along the right-of-way. And I think we need to go along and adapt that too, because when we approve a new development, streetlights. [0:42:45, 0:43:05]: Lights need to go along the right-of-way, and we should require the developer to do that. So my opinion is that I certainly uh would lean toward going in the direction of uh what the county has been doing. I certainly wouldn't want to pass on the cost of uh the developments to the individual residents, but in this case [0:43:05, 0:43:05]: Yeah. [0:43:08, 0:43:28]: When residents want more street lights in their subdivision, uh they have the they have the right to do that because they're paying the bill. If they want to add extra lighting in there, they can add extra lighting in any subdivisions, because a lot of these subdivisions have street lights, but they're inadequate because there's so few of them that there's so many dark spots. So in [0:43:28, 0:43:39]: At this point with the new program, if a subdivision wanted to add streetlights, they could indeed do that and then they would absorb the cost working through us to get the new additional streetlights installed. Is that correct? [0:43:39, 0:43:49]: Yes. So one of the things we would do is we would identify the major thoroughfares and roads and that would be outlined, say, North Henry Boulevard. [0:43:50, 0:44:10]: Patrick Henry, Eagles Land, and Hudson Bridge Campground, those would be the city's responsibility. And then one of the things I've been discussing with Georgia Power, they'll get us a spreadsheet. The county's working on getting us the spreadsheet. And we're gonna have to go and actually count parcels and number of lights within that subdivision or count parcels and [0:44:10, 0:44:30]: the annual bill and that's how we split it up between those residents in those subdivisions and neighborhoods so that it's equitable among everybody in that subdivision. So subdivision would ta pay different prices based on the annual uh electrical cost for that neighborhood. But I think [0:44:30, 0:44:50]: That's an equitable way of doing it so that everybody pays their pro rattle share because they're benefiting from having street lights in their subdivision. And so we would just have to come back with the model that we present to you for approval. But we're asking tonight for you to choose one of the options and then that goes. [0:44:49, 0:45:04]: gives us our marching orders of how we go about developing this street light assessment or street light program because the cost gonna continue to escalate and it's gonna get to a point where it's not gonna be [0:45:05, 0:45:12]: financially feasible if you want to maintain the current millage rate to continue paying escalating street lighting. [0:45:13, 0:45:33]: Yeah, and honestly, I just really we just need to go ahead and move in that direction. And while you're up there, let me go ahead and g we had a just really rotten timing on Jodico, where all of the street lights went out on the south side ramp. Do you have an update on that to where we stand? Because all of the lights went out on the JohtoCo South. [0:45:33, 0:45:53]: So that agreement is between Henry County and Georgia Power. So Henry County has to sign off on it before Georgia Power makes it a little bit. I know Mr. Gardner. So we've been in communication with them. [0:45:52, 0:45:54]: In order to move forward and get [0:45:55, 0:46:13]: We we we we've been waiting long enough. We need to get an answer. We we need to work through whoever the channels need to be to get somebody to move this forward. This has been going on now for about a month. And uh, you know, we've got a new vendor in the city. Costco's doing quite well and we need those lights on. [0:46:14, 0:46:30]: So what can we do to get in contact, to send the urgency of this nature to them to sign off? I know I had reached out to some elected officials. They said they were working on it. Can we circle back to see how quickly we can get that done? [0:46:30, 0:46:49]: And that's and I think this is plain that we've actually been doing that and working through through the channels in the county to to to give them the sense of urgency as to why it's important to make this happen. But once again this is something that we are working outside of our jurisdiction asking them to push this effort forward because it is important, but [0:46:51, 0:47:00]: We could only push them as far as they wanted to be pushed to make it happen. I think the conversation should obviously continue to come from council to commissioners. [0:47:01, 0:47:03]: Right, because that's how things trickle down. [0:47:04, 0:47:06]: When you want something to get done and done in emergencies to have [0:47:07, 0:47:09]: The chair or the district person or both. [0:47:09, 0:47:13]: explain to the staff that to get on Georgia Power to to make it happen. [0:47:14, 0:47:25]: Well certainly we'd like to see that. And then in addition to that, the street lights are going up in the interior uh of the Costco development, but certainly, what's the arrangement for the right of way? [0:47:27, 0:47:41]: along Jodico.'Cause the county has street lights up uh from Chambers Road on down to uh down Jodico Road, but we don't have any street lights right there in front of the development. Is the developer gonna put them up or do we need to put them up? [0:47:42, 0:48:01]: Uh I uh from my understanding the developer was responsible for the lights within the development. There are currently no lights on Jodico Road in that location if if we wanted lights there the city would assume that responsibility for I think that you know, with a provider that's doing what they're doing right there. [0:48:01, 0:48:21]: I tell you what, how about this? Uh you you l let me let me uh interject here. We were talking about the particular options that we want to focus in on. It's probably what we need to focus in on that for tonight. So you at least give you some proper guidance on that. And I think right now, I think Mr. Alexander and Ms. Gantt are looking at option number two to go forward. And Miss Barber, you your option two is you want to comment or you want [0:48:21, 0:48:22]: Option two as well. [0:48:22, 0:48:23]: I have a comment. [0:48:24, 0:48:25]: Same question. [0:48:25, 0:48:28]: Okay, let's let's stay on task on this. Go ahead with your comment, please. [0:48:28, 0:48:30]: Mr Aaron, so the [0:48:31, 0:48:49]: eight hundred thousand dollars that the city is currently paying for street lights, does that include the newly annexed areas as of January of twenty twenty three? No it doesn't, because Henry County billed those residents on their property tax system. Okay, thank you. That's my first question. So then [0:48:50, 0:48:54]: All of the newly annexed areas as of January of twenty twenty three. [0:48:55, 0:48:57]: In Dist City Council District Four. [0:48:58, 0:48:59]: Most of them were [0:48:59, 0:49:01]: are not in subdivisions. [0:49:01, 0:49:02]: So [0:49:02, 0:49:03]: Davis Road. [0:49:05, 0:49:17]: There are no subdivisions on Davis Road. So they don't have like HOAs. They're just communities. So then would Davis Road c be considered like a [0:49:17, 0:49:18]: Major [0:49:19, 0:49:20]: Thoroughfare of the city? [0:49:20, 0:49:40]: If streetlights were on Davis Road, then the city would pay for those. But the neighborhoods that come off of Davis Roads, then those residents, you'll count all the parcels in there and the energy bill for that neighborhood and they'll pay their pro rattle share for that. If the city wanted to install street lights on Davis Road, then you get into that. [0:49:40, 0:49:56]: the city pays for those because there are no it's gonna be some residents that benefit cause they live on a major road like Walt Stevens or something like that, but the street light districts are mainly aimed at neighborhoods and subdivisions. [0:49:56, 0:50:00]: Okay, then so on Davis Road then there are neighborhoods. [0:50:01, 0:50:02]: Of Davis Road. [0:50:02, 0:50:05]: So the city should be covering [0:50:05, 0:50:11]: Street lights in those neighborhoods on Davis Road, Valley Hill Road, Shields Road, [0:50:12, 0:50:14]: Their neighborhoods as well. [0:50:14, 0:50:15]: But if you're [0:50:16, 0:50:36]: If you develop the districts, then the neighborhoods would pay the assessment for those street lights. But Shields Road, if there are street lights on Shields Road, the city would pay those. But if you went on, I think it's my Metal Ridge or one of those off Shields Road, those homes off of Metal Ridge, they'll pay an assessment for the street road. [0:50:36, 0:50:37]: Street life. [0:50:37, 0:50:57]: They would pay the same assessed amount as residents who live inside of subdivisions. No, with Hills. So if this neighborhood has twenty lights and there's a subdivision with twelve, the subdivision with twelve would pay less than those with twenty because the energy cost. [0:50:57, 0:50:58]: Cost would be less. [0:50:59, 0:51:01]: Okay, so when you mention about the [0:51:02, 0:51:05]: Um options. Option one is [0:51:06, 0:51:07]: What did you say? [0:51:07, 0:51:10]: Option one is the city payer percentage and the [0:51:11, 0:51:16]: Every resident pay a percentage, whether they have street lights in their neighborhood or not. [0:51:17, 0:51:17]: Half and half. [0:51:18, 0:51:22]: It c i whatever the percentage that council wanted to [0:51:22, 0:51:37]: implement if this the city said we pay fifty percent and the residents pay fifty percent or the city pays fifty five and the residents pay forty five. But the one where you is option two [0:51:37, 0:51:46]: That's more equitable because you're paying the cost based on the energy that your neighborhood or subdivision is using because [0:51:46, 0:51:54]: If you got twelve lights, it's gonna be a lot cheaper than if you're in a neighborhood or subdivision with fifty lights. So [0:51:56, 0:52:15]: You try that's the most equitable one. Reiterate Mayor Ford. Okay. You want two is well reiterate that. Okay. Option two was the city pays for the street lights on major thoroughfares and intersections and residents pay for the street lights in the neighborhoods and subdivisions. Yes. Is option two. [0:52:15, 0:52:17]: Yes, sir. All right. [0:52:17, 0:52:19]: Is so is that [0:52:21, 0:52:27]: Okay, back to Miss Barber. You have any more questions, ma'am? Yes, I wanna make sure that whatever the council decides, whether it's today or [0:52:27, 0:52:35]: going forward, that all those newly annexed parcels as of january twenty twenty three be included. [0:52:36, 0:52:56]: They will be but but they've already been billed for twenty twenty four on their property tax statement. They've already been billed for twenty twenty four? Yes, when the county sent out the tax notices. This would be for twenty twenty five and going forward. Okay. Because all of those will become would come off the county's street light district. [0:52:56, 0:53:01]: And they'll either go dark or the city funds it or the city and them fund it. [0:53:01, 0:53:02]: Mm-hmm. [0:53:04, 0:53:24]: I miss Barber, you have an idea what option you're in favor of at this point? No, not at this time. All right. Um this is just a presentation, correct? No, we can vote. We need to go. We're we're asking for counsel direction as to which option they want us to pursue because option two requires some detailed work, because you gotta find out the number so the basis is the number of parcels and [0:53:24, 0:53:34]: each subdivision, the amount of lights and energy costs for each one of those subdivisions so that you assign a value to that assessment for that subdivision or neighborhood. [0:53:35, 0:53:40]: So you're gonna end up having to bring this back to us sometime next year again, right? [0:53:41, 0:54:01]: Yes, ma'am, but we just want council approval to say, well, this is the option you want we want you to pursue, and that's what we go about doing because if we do all three, it's gonna be a lot of work involved and we need to do it today. Okay. But before Mr. But the assessment though is citywide, not a because [0:54:01, 0:54:18]: you mentioned some streets. I want to have an understanding that this is a citywide assessment. Yes, sir. And you can identify which streets that the city is going to be responsible for when it comes to major thoroughfare. It'd be something like Walt Stevens, Mount Zion. It could be North Henry Boulevard. [0:54:19, 0:54:28]: Patrick Henry, Campground, Eagles Land, Hudson Bridge. So those are spelled out that this is what the city's paying for, but neighborhood soft of those roads, they pay for it. Okay. [0:54:29, 0:54:38]: Okay. Well I I'm I'm leaning toward uh option two, but I just wanna make sure that the assessment though is city wide. [0:54:39, 0:54:42]: Yes, sir. It's it's citywide. Okay. Every [0:54:42, 0:54:46]: Everyone that have street lights, they will pay their [0:54:47, 0:54:49]: Pro Radasabna Streetlights. [0:54:49, 0:55:05]: So maybe if I may, so if if the council agree on option two, then what is your next step and and and and when will you bring that back and and where do we go from there? It all depends on when Georgia Power and Herring County gets us the data. [0:55:06, 0:55:26]: 'Cause the framework is already prepared. It's just a matter of getting a spreadsheet with all the data and information. So we can present it and say, Okay, this subdivision, based on this cost, this is what every resident that would pay. So it'll be broken out by subdivision and neighborhood as to what their annual assessment would be. [0:55:26, 0:55:33]: Well, no good question. I is there a grandfather clause in this proposal? No, sir. All right. Thank you. [0:55:35, 0:55:42]: All right. Uh Miss Barber did you have any more questions? I did. So why wouldn't we just wait until you got the assessment? [0:55:43, 0:55:45]: In these direction. [0:55:45, 0:56:05]: See well I said we're asking me to make a decision based on data, but I don't have any data and you don't either. Do you want where uh individuals actually pay what they're using or do you want to assess everybody and say, well, you're gonna pay a share, whether you have street lights [0:56:05, 0:56:15]: in your neighborhood or your subdivision or not, you're gonna pay for the benefit of the entire city and the city's gonna pay a portion of it. Option two is the most [0:56:16, 0:56:31]: To me, the most favorable one because you're paying for a benefit that you're receiving. And option one is you might be paying for a benefit that you're not receiving. You're paying for every light in the city, whether it benefits you or not. [0:56:36, 0:56:56]: All right. No other questions. Mayor, I I'm gonna make a motion, but I had a quick comment. Okay. Councilman Alexander did make a great point and I don't think Ryan I think Ryan left, but we do need to follow back up with him on that. Um when when the new requirement should be that street lights are brought in back [0:56:56, 0:57:16]: by the developer and as they're coming out, the same as we're requiring them to do the sidewalks right up front as well. That's gonna be part of the street light assessment where the when they're going through the planning process, there will be a petition that the developer has to sign saying that those parcels will pay streetlight assessments. [0:57:16, 0:57:36]: Right. So that you'll know up front that they're gonna pay for it. And then going forward, if there's a neighborhood that doesn't or subdivision that doesn't have street lights, they want street lights, then you'd have to get that petition passed among circulated among the homeowners. That's right. And whatever the percentage is that required to approve it before you install street lights in there. [0:57:36, 0:57:45]: then that's the direction you'll go because you know that you'll recoup the cost that you've invested in. And and um mayor, if I may, and I thank you for that explanation. Um [0:57:45, 0:58:05]: I uh I like option two because uh subdivisions can become as elaborate as they want or scale back and be as dark as they want, but it's up to them and it's fair to them and they have the right to make that decision and they'll be in control of that decision. So having said that, I would like to move that you uh [0:58:06, 0:58:10]: You know, g you bring us back an assessment on option two. [0:58:10, 0:58:12]: So I second that motion. [0:58:13, 0:58:29]: Okay. Brings back the assessment. All right. The motion's been accepted by Ms. Barber and Nishman by Ms. Gantt all in favor of the motion, please indicate. It's an ambassador's decision. Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. All right. And then let's see here. [0:58:32, 0:58:38]: Then we have now a splos uh six proposed list presented by mister Gardner and mister [0:58:38, 0:58:39]: Yeah. [0:58:55, 0:59:15]: Mayor Council, as you know, the discussion has started as it relates to uh Splus Six. And so as I mentioned to you um at our budget retreat that um the county would be sending us notice, um, per my conversation with the county managers some months ago um regarding a call for um [0:59:15, 0:59:23]: Splus six. The county is moving in that direction as it relates to splus six. And so with that, we've kind of put together um [0:59:24, 0:59:30]: Some areas um similar to what I did with Splash Four when I was in the city of um McDonough. [0:59:31, 0:59:34]: Um we actually put together a kind of a um [0:59:35, 0:59:45]: a la court for you guys to look at, um, give some recommendations and tweak. As you know, we in terms of the SPLOS project process, um [0:59:46, 1:00:06]: The county will announce and send notification for us, the cities, if we want to participate. If we do, you know, that's a five years plus. If they if the cities do not, then that becomes a five years plus, and we obviously lose rev potential revenue based on that extra year of s of assessments. Um [1:00:06, 1:00:25]: The process now that the county is going through is recently they move forward with a vote to move on to SPLOSS. Um there are meetings that have been scheduled for SPLOS. Unfortunate, none of those meetings will occur in in the city limits of Stockbridge or in the city limits of Hampton. [1:00:25, 1:00:30]: They will be in the city of the middle south of McDonald because the senior senior heritage [1:00:31, 1:00:36]: Uh the senior facility is in the city limits and the other one I think is in the city of Hampton. [1:00:36, 1:00:37]: Um [1:00:37, 1:00:42]: I know that they're in the process of looking at having a splots committee at this point. [1:00:42, 1:00:55]: that haven't been announced who those people will be and will they be I know there was discussion about whether or not they would ask the city to have representatives um on the spLOS committee. I would hope that they would. Um [1:00:55, 1:01:08]: And that we'd have some participation. I was hoping that they would announce some meetings in the city limits, but they did not. And I don't know, that's a discussion that that this entity, the board wants to commit the council wants to have with some of the elected officials on that end. [1:01:08, 1:01:09]: Um [1:01:09, 1:01:29]: about the fact that there should be meetings inside the the major cities. Um with Stockbridge being now the largest city in Henry County, we should have been allotted a location for SPLOSS meetings. Um but with that said, uh obviously SPLOS will go to a referendum in twenty twenty four, November of and then [1:01:29, 1:01:36]: if approved by the voters will take effect uh April of twenty twenty-five. Uh and so with that [1:01:36, 1:01:37]: We kinda look at [1:01:37, 1:01:47]: um a couple of areas that we wanted you guys to look at and then just give us some recommendation. Obviously road resurfacing and sidewalks being one. Um [1:01:47, 1:01:55]: Municipal buildings being two, infrastructure being three, parks and wreck, um, and options for vehicle and equipment. [1:01:55, 1:02:06]: being um a area number five that you guys can look at and give us um some ideas as. We kinda worked out that based on the current sploss numbers we should get somewhere between [1:02:07, 1:02:14]: Thirty seven, thirty five, thirty eight, thirty-eight being the top. So we actually use the thirty-five number based on what they're seeing now. [1:02:14, 1:02:34]: um and recommending. And so with that we kind of divvied it out the twelve million and this like I said, this is subject to change based on you guys, not just us. So it's just a starting point, right, for discussion. Um and some recommendations from you guys. But you know, resurface well, roadway and res and resurfacing being [1:02:34, 1:02:54]: Uh 12 million, building maintenance being about 12 million, infrastructure 8 million, parks, 5, vehicles, 1.5. And then there we've broken it down by districts based on that 12. So each district would be allotted about 2.4 million. Obviously, if you change it around and make that more of a priority and increase that number. [1:02:54, 1:02:57]: number, that number would come from a different area. Um [1:02:58, 1:03:06]: Whether it's municipal buildings or infrastructure or parks or vehicle, we would allot those monies where council feels that they if if that's a priority and it should go there. [1:03:08, 1:03:10]: So this is a fluid chart. [1:03:10, 1:03:13]: Um all just want you guys to kinda take it in, look at it. [1:03:13, 1:03:33]: Um give us some recommendations. Uh I think in the best interest of time, obviously, because this could go forever, it'd probably be best if we have a special call meeting at some point to chance drill down on on what we want on our splits because we want to get it done before those meetings start happening. So we could at least have those areas addressed for residents. [1:03:33, 1:03:42]: And the option to tweak'em based on input you guys hear from those residents at those meetings. And then turn it in at the in at the time allotted. [1:03:42, 1:03:58]: Miss Gantt's biting at the bit to say something. Go ahead, please. Um, thank you. Um, then thank you, uh Mr. Gardner. I do agree that we probably don't want to get into a long discussion on this today. However, I wanted to know when is our next retreat, council retreat? [1:03:59, 1:04:03]: Sure. Our our next council retreats in February. [1:04:03, 1:04:10]: And I know that that's the time where we normally do our planning not for budgets, but for planning on what we want, how we want it. [1:04:11, 1:04:16]: Um I see you have a title here, Road Resurfacing and Sidewalks. I was gonna ask you [1:04:16, 1:04:36]: the difference between us putting money here allocated and our T sploss money. I also when I deal with SPLOS, I like for it to be broad, except for when it now we have districts, I know that we need to divide money equally on that end, but for other things, whether or not we have to actually list a particular item instead of being broad and just listing [1:04:36, 1:04:56]: what it's for. Right. If it's for a capital project such as municipal buildings. And and and you can you can you can say um infrastructure. Correct. Right? And that will allow us this is broken down just for you guys to have an example of what would be under those categories. Right. But typically you would just say infrastructure or you would say parks or you [1:04:56, 1:05:16]: you would say um equipment and vehicles and then what those totals would be. Right. Because uh as you know, we get surprises and we might have, you know, a t TSW somebody comes back in and does a presentation and say, hey, no, this is gonna cost this. But we have another another option or sometimes our priorities move. We have an [1:05:16, 1:05:30]: new council member coming on board. So I think in February would be a great time for us to discuss this and get a concrete and f like where we want to put our our spas dollars for that. And that's where I am on that. [1:05:30, 1:05:32]: Mayor. Can you go right up, please, Ms. Alzheimer? [1:05:34, 1:05:54]: Uh let me just say this and um I just kinda wanna concur. We have a T splot and the T Splosh has been extremely uh successful in generating dollars for us. But you know, I don't wanna make my comments political, but I don't [1:05:54, 1:06:14]: Talking to residents. They're firmly committed that they want a recreation center in the city for the youth. And we've been talking about one, a youth and senior center. Certainly, we want the T-SPLOST to pass, or the SPLOS to pass. And you got to put some carrots on there. We certainly want to be broad. [1:06:14, 1:06:34]: But we want people to vote yes. And if they know that we're fully committed to building that recreation center, we know that Congressman Scott has already told us that uh he could endeavor to work with us to get$18 million for a specific uh recreation center for the city. [1:06:33, 1:06:53]: So uh it is my thought, certainly we want to have some resurfacing dollars. We already get L Mig. Uh we got the Eagles Landing in the current T Sploss and Hudson Bridge in the current T-SPLOST and Rock Quarry Road's going to be widened. Highway 138's already been paved by G DOT. So certainly those dollars. [1:06:53, 1:07:13]: uh there that we're putting toward uh the repaving certainly could be scaled back. In my wish list, I'd like to see about eight to ten million dollars for the uh youth and senior recreation center. Uh so that'll be a signature project that we've shown voters that we're committed to delivering. [1:07:13, 1:07:33]: And not just uh uh, you know, cause two million dollars certainly is not going to close what we were trying to do. So if let's say ideally federally we were able to get 18 million and then we put 10 here, that gives us about 28. With the way things are going, the projections might come in a little over that, that might get us. [1:07:33, 1:07:53]: us close to about thirty million dollars in order to move this project forward. So those are my initial thoughts and I certainly would ask the council to uh entertain those as we whittle it down and decide what to do. But I I I can't tell you how many people have said they want to see something done for the youth. And um [1:07:53, 1:08:13]: I heard that again and again and again, and I hear it every day. So certainly I'm committed to doing that in this uh in this splice, and then having the actual road projects go on the T-splice. There will be some resurfacing uh in the traditional splice, but the uh construction project. [1:08:13, 1:08:22]: And uh, the majority of the repaving will go uh on the T-splice instead of the initial splice. Those are my thoughts. [1:08:22, 1:08:22]: Okay. [1:08:23, 1:08:27]: Okay, any other comments at all? Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:08:27, 1:08:30]: Yeah, I can certainly support that. Um [1:08:30, 1:08:40]: The Youth and Senior Center is a priority for me. I wanna continue the conversations with YMCA. I'm all about partnerships. Um the city doesn't have to [1:08:40, 1:08:41]: Um [1:08:41, 1:08:45]: put up money for all capital pri well the total cost. [1:08:45, 1:08:47]: of every capital project. [1:08:47, 1:08:50]: Um if we find a solid sponsor. [1:08:50, 1:08:51]: Or partnership. [1:08:52, 1:08:53]: That's what I'd like to see. [1:08:53, 1:08:53]: So [1:08:54, 1:08:55]: I can support. [1:08:55, 1:08:56]: Um increasing [1:08:56, 1:08:58]: The splaster mount. [1:08:58, 1:09:03]: uh to support the youth and seniors center. It is a priority for me as well. Thank you. [1:09:03, 1:09:06]: Before please. [1:09:07, 1:09:08]: Briefly. [1:09:08, 1:09:13]: I will continue to advocate for the Cultural Arts Center. [1:09:14, 1:09:15]: I will hold my [1:09:16, 1:09:17]: Extensive [1:09:17, 1:09:22]: comments until a later point, but uh I just wanna be on record. [1:09:22, 1:09:24]: Okay, good deal. [1:09:24, 1:09:33]: Oh sorry, so it's no vote tonight anyway, it's just information safe. Further conversation obviously we have as we continue down this road to uh willow willow this out and uh present it. [1:09:33, 1:09:43]: And and kinda give you guys the the lay of the line, right? So based on the meeting that the county had, um [1:09:44, 1:09:46]: I guess last month, um [1:09:46, 1:10:06]: Each commissioner has has one appointee to a citizen advisory committee. The committee will consist, will assist staff to recommend projects for the NES Plus program. Commissioners are asked to provide their names, nominee, and that was early November. Staff will develop potential project lists November, December. Citizen Committee will begin meeting in June. [1:10:06, 1:10:07]: January [1:10:08, 1:10:17]: Um they will hold seven meetings, one in each district, two at the county office from January through April of twenty twenty four. [1:10:18, 1:10:21]: The county and cities will hold a joint meeting [1:10:22, 1:10:25]: In June, this is required to consider approval of an IGA. [1:10:26, 1:10:33]: The county and cities must final finalize the pr project lists by July twenty twenty four. [1:10:34, 1:10:37]: Um die IGA must be approved at that time. [1:10:38, 1:10:39]: Um if there is an agreement [1:10:40, 1:10:43]: Voters will consider the ballot question in November twenty twenty four. [1:10:44, 1:10:50]: Um if voters approve the referendums plus six collections will begin April one. [1:10:50, 1:10:51]: twenty twenty five. [1:10:51, 1:10:59]: The current splots is scheduled to end tax collections on the day before March thirtieth, twenty twenty five. [1:11:00, 1:11:08]: Mayor. Okay, go ahead, please. Thank you. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. Thank you. All right. Thank you for that, Mr. Garner. So please send that to us so we'll know the schedule of what they're doing. [1:11:09, 1:11:23]: And then m hopefully the cities, the municipalities will get together like they've done, but hopefully they do it much earlier on than waiting to the last minute. So it when it comes time for the cities and the county to get together. [1:11:23, 1:11:30]: Then everybody'll be ready on one accord and we'll know the percentages, we'll know what the population is and the correct amount that should be split. [1:11:30, 1:11:31]: But that should be done with [1:11:32, 1:11:52]: all municipalities and if they if the county commissioners have already have their schedule and they did the same thing last time where they appointed a member per each district um then and we've seen that before where they had meetings at the different facilities or their their town halls. Um [1:11:52, 1:12:09]: Hopefully each county commissioner will meet up with their representatives of each city and their municipalities as well to see their needs. I know mine is. Uh com Commissioner Neat Robinson has been very cooperative and I've never had that before. [1:12:11, 1:12:12]: I've never had it before. [1:12:13, 1:12:21]: So um I do know that, you know, we're work for example, we're working on road projects. We're having to spend money [1:12:22, 1:12:25]: And those roads have been in disrepair for years and were never done. [1:12:26, 1:12:31]: But now we have a commissioner who knows, um, and so I appreciate that. [1:12:33, 1:12:53]: So one other question. Just go right there. So I mean, on a line with what the county did, do we want some citizen involvement in doing this? I think the easiest way it would be too late now to solicit maybe we could just ask the citywide development authority for citizen input on the particular projects, and then so we [1:12:52, 1:13:12]: We would have some citizen feedback or ask them to garner it or to collect it one of the existing boards instead of trying to establish a new one because we're having trouble trying to fix out um I don't want a board. I I don't I'm talking about the county commissioners. They have their b they're they're creating a board from they're selecting each individual. I want us to do it the way we've been doing. [1:13:12, 1:13:13]: Yeah. [1:13:13, 1:13:23]: But I hope that our cities usually the city managers get together and have meetings about this or or m and so hopefully each municipality in Henry County. So [1:13:23, 1:13:33]: uh, Stockbridge, Locust Grove, Hampton, McDowell and I get together and talk about, you know, their percentage wise so we won't have to go through what we went through last time. [1:13:33, 1:13:36]: But I don't I don't think we need a committee. I think that once we do our retreat [1:13:37, 1:13:44]: W and we'll be able to determine because I'm all for the senior and youth center as well, the recreational [1:13:44, 1:13:50]: portion. I I do think there's a very dire need for that. There are dire needs for a lot of things. Um [1:13:50, 1:13:54]: And unfortunately, even our senior center is in Ellenwood. [1:13:54, 1:14:02]: I mean it's in fairview. That it's not reachable for the community, for the citizens and the majority of the population in the city of Stockbridge. Everything is placed out. [1:14:02, 1:14:08]: including the Art Center, that we were trying to get, but the former commissioner, Mr Holmes, [1:14:09, 1:14:12]: Tried to and even did backslide it and put it up in Fairview. [1:14:13, 1:14:13]: Where [1:14:14, 1:14:15]: It's less of a population. [1:14:15, 1:14:28]: And so all the kids bust over there to go to a arts thing and it's not used in the manner that we wished it could be because it's not in the population, the populated area. So I'm all for whatever we need to do. [1:14:28, 1:14:48]: What uh what I'm trying to say is that there would be of course the board would not make the decision, it would rec make some recommendations, but it certainly would be too late now to go out and solicit to put together an entirely new board, but certainly some citizen involvement would be encouraged I would think to on what the [1:14:48, 1:14:50]: [4490.2, 4510.2]: As well. How how about how about this? How about the recommendation would simply be with your normal dialogue, our normal dialogue with individuals, citizens, just talk to those folks about that and bring those ideas to to us in this aspect. That way you listen you they're talking to you all the time. So I I certainly do that. I didn't know whether I mean it's not up to me. I just wanted to see what the rest of the thing is. I would I would think [1:15:10, 1:15:30]: Then that might be a good I'm thinking a rec a recommendation, just have d conversation with folks and see what type of type of ideas and things I have and just bring them back to the rest of the the council and we'll have that discussion and we'll make sure that we're gonna Well the the window is short now, so cer certainly the decision's gotta be made pretty quick. Okay. Well I just a thought, just a thought for you. Okay. All right. Any any of the comments from the council? You good? [1:15:30, 1:15:50]: Okay. Thank you, sir. I believe that's is it at this time? All right. All right, so we're gonna go on to a public hearing. So on public hearing, let's talk about the public hearing uh rules. Please move all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out a form available on the table and hand it at the city clerk before [1:15:50, 1:15:51]: Yeah. [1:15:51, 1:16:11]: After each case is called the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and the representatives regarding the proposed plans for property along with any other relevant uh information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. [1:16:11, 1:16:17]: East side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time can be extended uh at the discretion of the council. [1:16:18, 1:16:22]: Please keep comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. [1:16:23, 1:16:26]: will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. [1:16:27, 1:16:45]: Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to the members of the council, staff, or the audience. All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. [1:16:46, 1:16:50]: Please note uh that these hearings are not deba uh not a debate. [1:16:50, 1:17:10]: Ferry to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by the law enforcement if any de if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal, uh, and may speak next and and last, and may use the entire ten minutes allowed. [1:17:10, 1:17:30]: For the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the counsel may ask the applicant to address questions andor concerns. The presiding officer will call for a motion and a second to the motion and have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [1:17:30, 1:17:40]: On that note, our public hearing tonight deals with a second reading of the proposed FY 2024 operating budget and capital expenditures, presented by Mr. Gardner, please. [1:17:48, 1:18:08]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening. Um this is our second um read of the budget. Um, real quick, as part of the have uh a budget present quick budget presentation, pretty much the one we gave at the last meeting, um, that outlines some things in the budget and areas. As you know, we had our budget retreat back in August. We provided the budget. [1:18:08, 1:18:18]: budget um months in advance um than typically required by the Charter, which was October. We guys got it in July. We looked at it in August. [1:18:18, 1:18:20]: Um and um [1:18:21, 1:18:41]: We've made a few tweaks based on some of the recommendations that we got at that retreat meeting. Um obviously um I'll kinda cover those areas. Uh as you know, what's in our current budget? We're not proposing any new fee increases for permits, trades, plan review, uh no increases in our utility water sewer, sound [1:18:41, 1:18:57]: sanitation stonewater rates. Um this year we don't anticipate any health care or risk insurance. We've probably have one more year left before we revisit that. Um we do we did establish a three point seven seven millers rate for the city. Um and as I explained to a resident the other day they came in. [1:18:57, 1:18:58]: Um [1:18:58, 1:19:14]: And had his twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three uh tax assessment. I showed him that look where you had police service at one point nine oh four. It's not in your twenty twenty three, but it was in year twenty twenty two. That one point nine is now incorporated into three point seven. [1:19:15, 1:19:18]: Right. So you're a city military technically that's new. [1:19:18, 1:19:38]: That you're paying is only about 1.00 mils at the end of that. Obviously, we're looking to add additional offices as we continue to grow. We requested we included for uh cost of living adjustment for the employees who haven't had one in the last three years. Um there are sidewalks improvements and water improvements, infrastructure improvements. [1:19:38, 1:19:40]: Uh as part of the general fund. [1:19:42, 1:19:47]: I I I start with this chart because I continue to want this council to understand where the city is headed. [1:19:47, 1:19:49]: Right. Um [1:19:50, 1:19:53]: As I mentioned to you guys outside of Mr. Alfonso that grew up here. [1:19:54, 1:19:55]: Um [1:19:55, 1:20:01]: Everybody on this council except for him moved here between twenty the year two thousand and the year twenty ten. [1:20:02, 1:20:10]: was when most of us moved here. So we were in that growth spurt between Henry when City of Stogridge went from eleven thousand to twenty five thousand people. [1:20:10, 1:20:11]: That was us. [1:20:12, 1:20:16]: Us and our kids and any other kids we had along the way during that time. [1:20:17, 1:20:17]: Right. [1:20:18, 1:20:26]: I had one, I added one after, right? Um so between twenty ten and twenty twenty. [1:20:26, 1:20:33]: We didn't grow as much, obviously. There was a slow growth in the count in the city. So we went from twenty five thousand to twenty-nine thousand. [1:20:34, 1:20:35]: We had an annexation. [1:20:35, 1:20:40]: Of about sixty seven hundred residents to put us at thirty seven thousand six hundred plus. [1:20:40, 1:20:41]: Right. [1:20:42, 1:20:48]: If you look at that trajectory between two thousand and two thousand ten and look at the trajectory between two thousand [1:20:48, 1:20:49]: Two thousand. [1:20:49, 1:20:52]: twenty three and two thousand thirty. [1:20:53, 1:21:08]: You see the same type of growth trajectory. The community development director just explained to you guys, we have over forty something hundred approved residential developments, be they multifamily, single family, attached. [1:21:09, 1:21:13]: That are in the s that are in the system. I apologize, ma'am. Um, that are in the system. [1:21:13, 1:21:19]: Right. If those continue to become built out, you're looking at a population of of fifty thousand plus. [1:21:20, 1:21:31]: Right. Um and you're what you consider is you're now considered not a private company, but a public company that is growing. [1:21:32, 1:21:37]: You're not losing residence like some communities I've worked in city of Decatur, Illinois. [1:21:37, 1:21:46]: That started out with a population of over ninety thousand and lost over twenty thousand people by the twenty tw by the two uh tw uh twenty nineteen census. [1:21:47, 1:21:48]: Right. Okay. [1:21:49, 1:21:50]: Twenty ninety census. [1:21:51, 1:22:11]: They lost people. That's not the case here. You are a growing public company. And as this public cup growing public company continues to grow, this council has to consider how do we provide those goods and services or specifically services because we are a service entity to those growing populations. So obviously. [1:22:11, 1:22:12]: [4932.6, 4933.6]: That at some point [1:22:14, 1:22:26]: We will be where there are only four cities right now in the band of fifty thousand, between fifty thousand and sixty thousand residents in the state of Georgia. We'll be joining them soon. [1:22:27, 1:22:35]: Right. And so when we look at where they were, where we were our size, we need to look at those same decision making processes moving forward. [1:22:39, 1:22:59]: As I explained, your budget under law is you predicate your budget based on revenues, not expenses. So your revenue is built on anticipated revenues, not anticipated expenses. You match your expenses to your anticipated revenues. That's the requirements. That's the law. [1:23:00, 1:23:04]: And your general fund because it's typically sales tax and property tax related. [1:23:05, 1:23:08]: That's what the Lord realized that we look at the general fund. [1:23:09, 1:23:11]: And that's pretty much where we're gonna keep our focus. [1:23:14, 1:23:14]: [4995.2, 5012.5]: So as you can tell, our budget has grown as the city has continued to grow over the last few years. Some of that obviously, as you guys know, is the institution of our police department um last year and this year and the continued growth moving forward. As you know, Vendus Police Department was [1:23:32, 1:23:35]: predicated and approved and came online. [1:23:36, 1:23:36]: Um [1:23:37, 1:23:43]: They came online with a population of twenty nine thousand, not a population of thirty six, thirty seven plus. [1:23:44, 1:23:54]: Um and so we have to keep that in mind as how they continue to provide those services as this community continues to grow moving forward, but also your responsibilities as your public works director just explained. [1:23:55, 1:23:58]: The county is no longer doing what it did between twenty [1:23:58, 1:24:00]: Two thousand and twenty ten. [1:24:01, 1:24:01]: I [1:24:02, 1:24:04]: Henry County maintained all the roads. [1:24:05, 1:24:25]: Henry County maintained most of the right-of-way, even though the city had annexed, they never was responsible for the roads. Your 2020 um agreement with the county put a lot of those responsibilities back on the city, and those responsibilities continue to grow. [1:24:25, 1:24:28]: Especially with the annexation, we just talked about streetlights. [1:24:28, 1:24:32]: Those were being done by the county. They will no longer be done by the county in twenty twenty five. That's coming. [1:24:33, 1:24:34]: To the city. [1:24:34, 1:24:35]: And how we address those. [1:24:35, 1:24:38]: Right, they're now looking at us as the big city. [1:24:39, 1:24:39]: Um [1:24:40, 1:24:43]: in their county, but we're all county residents and how we prepare for that. [1:24:45, 1:24:52]: So as you see from this chart, um property tax was not a big thing in 2022. Obviously we didn't have a millage rate. [1:24:52, 1:24:57]: Um twenty twenty three this year we got um a portion of that back for the twenty twenty two schedule. [1:24:58, 1:24:59]: Year from the county. [1:24:59, 1:25:04]: Um based on uh what they collected as part of that one point nine oh four millage. [1:25:04, 1:25:18]: Um proposed year you see six point seven. So what we propose for this year based on the digested we were given and approved by Henry County tax assessors. Uh we are seeing growth in our loss and part of that has also come from the fact that [1:25:19, 1:25:20]: We ticked uh [1:25:21, 1:25:32]: A box, unique box, last year this time. Once we got once the annexation came through, we recognized that our population had grown by more than fifteen percent. And under Georgia law, [1:25:32, 1:25:35]: We were required to go back to the county for additional lost [1:25:36, 1:25:36]: Which we did. [1:25:37, 1:25:57]: All right, we went through that process and obviously we were proposing a number smaller, and the county decided that they didn't want to agree with us and really and truly walked us out of the building and it went to the state and the state made the distribution and it was higher than what obviously we had voted on to to negotiate and so we came out to the battle. Uh so there's growth there. [1:25:57, 1:26:03]: We do see some growth in our alcohol and beverage tax, obviously. That'll go some more because guess what? [1:26:04, 1:26:06]: Since we've gone by that population. [1:26:06, 1:26:11]: We are now required to have two additional packet stores. [1:26:12, 1:26:32]: Right, based on our population growth. That usually happens during the census period, but because we grew through the annexation that ticked that box, so there'll be opportunities for us to have two additional s package stores in the city, uh, moving forward. Your insurance premium tax is paid based on the amount of insurance written in your city and as obviously the city has grown, that number's grown. [1:26:32, 1:26:41]: Along with it and then it becomes stable over a 10-year period and then it jumps again based on your growth in the next census. Um and other fees and taxes makes up about seven. [1:26:45, 1:26:52]: I don't know how if you guys can read clear this is. But uh uh general fund, as I mentioned, our revenues are expected at twenty six point [1:26:52, 1:26:52]: Mm. [1:26:53, 1:26:54]: Mr. Gardner. [1:26:55, 1:26:58]: The other fees and taxes. What do you say those were? [1:27:03, 1:27:06]: Other fees and toxic. They'll they'll like your um [1:27:07, 1:27:11]: Your ax alcohol exercise tax, which is not considered as part of your alcohol beverage. [1:27:12, 1:27:13]: You have um [1:27:14, 1:27:18]: In there you also have your um [1:27:21, 1:27:41]: The word I'm looking for. When we allow for the power companies and those other folks to ru to put lines in our right away, they pay us monies. We get a big check. I don't know if we they still do that anymore. They get we get a big check for um what's the word I'm looking for? Franchise. Franchise franchise. So that includes those those money. [1:27:40, 1:27:45]: Yeah, we get about two to three million in franchise fees um from those guys. So that's what that makes up. [1:27:49, 1:28:02]: Difference between the thirteen thousand uh thirteen million and then the seven million does seem glaring. So what it what was the additional between the two numbers where it went down from thirteen to seven? Uh I think that was just [1:28:03, 1:28:11]: Overestimation by us and based on the population growth, we don't think that that's gonna happen so for this year. So we're actually brought that number back down. [1:28:11, 1:28:31]: Okay, so the number was just and and that was predicated on the fact that remember we were hoping to have those hotels online. We only got one of the four that are actually being the being built. Oh but by uh So that's the proposed number, that's not the Yeah. So under this fiscal year, um you will see uh obviously uh under this coming fiscal year twenty twenty four. [1:28:31, 1:28:37]: The true will be finish. Um the Hilton not the Hilton, the um [1:28:38, 1:28:44]: Home two suites will be completed and hopefully online as well as um [1:28:44, 1:28:46]: And I know you guys would love this. [1:28:47, 1:28:48]: The best Weston. [1:28:50, 1:28:52]: On one thirty eight. [1:28:52, 1:29:12]: Um, and this is a little off topic, but we actually have been meeting with an entity that actually walked the building in the facility last uh right before Thanksgiving. And that entity is reached out uh is very interested in that. Um and it is a very um entrepreneurial 21-year-old. [1:29:12, 1:29:13]: [5353.6, 5362.3]: that actually performed at our facility here, amphitheater here, and has has a multiple of uh hotels in Cobb County, Gwynette County. [1:29:22, 1:29:26]: Um, got into the hotel investment business at a twenty one year old. [1:29:26, 1:29:34]: And is actually looking to jump on this deal to purchase and then renovate that facility. So there's we walked it, it's pretty much done. [1:29:35, 1:29:38]: Um they've even got the bathroom inlays in that building. [1:29:39, 1:29:54]: Shocked me. Um, but obviously they still have some work to get done. But that that hotel will come online as well, um, if that deal is done and consummated. Uh he did show sh he's shown a strong interest in that facility, so and this is right up what he's done in the past. [1:29:54, 1:29:55]: Oh. [1:29:55, 1:30:09]: And then also we discuss today with our hotel entity the properties that that we hone. And that was a very productive meeting. And as soon as that deal is consummated, they're going to start construction based on the discussions we had with them today. [1:30:09, 1:30:12]: Um they had their senior ві vice president and [1:30:13, 1:30:13]: Dear [1:30:14, 1:30:17]: Сеніор ВП фінтир Естен Сіборд. [1:30:17, 1:30:22]: in City Hall this morning. Which project I'm sorry I missed that. This is not Park Trail. [1:30:23, 1:30:34]: No partro. Yep. Okay. Uh the property that we own did we turn it over to the DVA. Oh wow. Um so that was a very interesting meeting. And on top of that, they are also looking at a potential [1:30:34, 1:30:38]: um higher end on country club. [1:30:38, 1:30:44]: And I leave it there. Then both of the projects on one thirty eight are underway now to write both of'em. Yeah. Yeah. [1:30:45, 1:30:57]: Uh so remember our budget is predicated on our revenues. So our expenses based on on our budget estimates for this year total evens out with our revenues at twenty six point seven million. [1:30:58, 1:31:18]: Um and that's what we're proposing and you can see throughout um in our chart you have the governing body, uh city clerks, city executive, financial administration, uh governmental departments, um all of the general fund departments that we typically utilize um for service delivery. Um even in our [1:31:18, 1:31:22]: out at twenty six point seven million but our revenue is projected at twenty six point seven million. [1:31:23, 1:31:28]: And that's just about up just about four million more than what we propose under the FY twenty two budget. [1:31:28, 1:31:29]: Twenty three budget. [1:31:31, 1:31:44]: New positions are all being done in the police department. They're none in the other general fund. Um except for what you guys approve today. Uh we'll obviously be turning consultants into potential staff with the new building. Um [1:31:45, 1:31:52]: With the new uh building officials coming on board. Obviously we'll make adjustments for that based on the uh revenue collections that we've gotten. [1:31:53, 1:32:00]: But we are right at right at currently one fifty six employees and most of those employees are in the police department. [1:32:00, 1:32:03]: Um as the department continues to call it. [1:32:05, 1:32:20]: Uh we do have general fund we do have some projects, capital projects in the general fund. Um si about six hundred thousand for the police and courts. That's continuing our C C T V program, um doing some roof repairs, new flock cameras. As you know they've been very um [1:32:21, 1:32:33]: useful, uh as well as some additional stuff in public works as well as to some sidewalk, street improvements, as well as uh which includes our ailmake match, as well as uh some new equipment to keep moving in that area. [1:32:35, 1:32:46]: Um capital budget for the city um overall is at nineteen million that includes some buildings maintenance, six million for some side s for sidewalks. [1:32:47, 1:32:50]: Oh see, um streets, uh equipment. [1:32:51, 1:32:57]: Roadway improvements, water and sewer improvements, uh stormwater improvements, parks improvements, and additional vehicles to keep. [1:32:58, 1:32:59]: uh fleet up and running. [1:33:03, 1:33:20]: Overall budget is projected at sixty one million. That's including all your enterprise funds, which is your water sewer, sanitation, um, world manders and uh amphitheater, as well as your capital projects, which are usually funded three S Plus. Um, there is some general funding there as well. [1:33:20, 1:33:23]: Um it's general fancy into twenty six per million. [1:33:24, 1:33:25]: Point seven million. [1:33:27, 1:33:38]: And here to take any questions. As I mentioned at the retreat, obviously we presented the budget to you guys. We did ask for questions and concerns. Um we had not gotten any at this point. [1:33:39, 1:33:42]: This is the second read, as I mentioned, to council. I mean if you have any [1:33:42, 1:33:46]: Recommended changes to us, please shoot them to us. Um [1:33:46, 1:34:06]: via email because we will include those in the appendix of the budget as we did last year. So folks get an idea of what questions and concerns Council may have and how we address those and any changes we make. Um with the understanding that, you know, we hit that twenty six point seven mark. Obviously we don't anticipate any additional revenue. So any [1:34:06, 1:34:18]: Any cut in expenses keeps your revenues right where it is. We just reduce expenses and anything that goes from there goes into fund balance or whatever programs you guys may want us to look at funding through the process. [1:34:18, 1:34:24]: All right, so councillor any questi additional questions at time for Mr. Gardner? Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:34:24, 1:34:30]: Uh thank you, Mr. Garner. Um you and I have been talking [1:34:30, 1:34:33]: Um about the budget, um [1:34:34, 1:34:54]: I wanted to submit uh something to you this week because I knew this meeting was coming, but because of the conference, the Thanksgiving, and um death in the family, I was not able to uh submit and I wanted to um submit this to the council. [1:34:53, 1:34:55]: Yeah. [1:34:55, 1:34:56]: Oh [1:34:57, 1:35:01]: And I will get this to you before the adoption. [1:35:02, 1:35:05]: But I did want to um [1:35:06, 1:35:12]: Asked a couple of questions here tonight since you saw the you mentioned a couple of things. [1:35:12, 1:35:15]: Uh with sanitation for instance. [1:35:15, 1:35:16]: Uh [1:35:17, 1:35:19]: Twenty twenty three. [1:35:20, 1:35:21]: Um [1:35:22, 1:35:34]: We were at one point nine. You're indicating in twenty twenty three one point nine. You're indicating in twenty twenty four two point eight. Now I know we added [1:35:35, 1:35:48]: uh six hundred citizens. So I guess my concern is sixty seven hundred. That's six thousand seven hundred. Right. I'm sorry, yes. Um but even with that still [1:35:50, 1:35:52]: Does that [1:35:55, 1:35:58]: Well explain the the justification from [1:35:58, 1:36:00]: From six to six. [1:36:01, 1:36:04]: Фомпот на топо ей. [1:36:04, 1:36:06]: Um nah [1:36:08, 1:36:10]: It seemed to be um [1:36:12, 1:36:30]: pretty big jump. And I I do understand when you add uh more people, you got more expenses, you have more of this, you have more of that. But I just want to ask the question just for the just for the explanation. And I'm sure since it was proposed, I'm sure there's a good explanation. [1:36:31, 1:36:51]: So first off, uh it does not impact the general fund. This is revenue generated. So it's an enterprise fund, but you gotta take into account that you're adding those additional customers. It's about, I think we did it's like 30 over 3,700 new customers. There's disposal costs, there's collection costs. [1:36:51, 1:37:11]: Cost associated with those residents. So you're adding right now, we have about 8,000 customers. So you're increasing the number of customers, you're adding an additional 3,700. So you're almost adding 50%. [1:37:11, 1:37:31]: More residents. So that increases more? Almost about your customer base is going from eight, and you're adding almost four. So it's gonna go from eight to twelve. So you're almost 50% more increasing the number of customers. [1:37:31, 1:37:46]: customers that you're servicing. So there's gonna be an increase in the collection cost as well as the disposal cost, and that cost takes that into account and plus the increases that the contract allows to for them to implement the CPI. [1:37:47, 1:37:50]: Well well let me ask this question. Um [1:37:50, 1:37:54]: And Mr. Garden, you don't really have to get too deep into this, but I know last year [1:37:55, 1:38:09]: Uh we had to do a few things just to balance the budget. Um do you foresee us doing any of those maneuvers to to to balance the budget this year? Um [1:38:12, 1:38:15]: Can't really say right now, sir, other than you know [1:38:16, 1:38:20]: We are working working with the interim finance um person to look at where we are. [1:38:21, 1:38:30]: And to bring any potential budget amendments which needs to come before council to council before we end the fiscal year. So that'll be able to tell us where we are. [1:38:30, 1:38:42]: Um but therefore possibility. So there yeah, there is a small possibility. Okay. Well we're efforting that because obviously we're bringing in revenue that we didn't have in twenty twenty b uh twenty twenty two. [1:38:43, 1:38:55]: Okay. Um as you was speaking earlier, I just jotted some things down, but as you and I talk, uh I do have some in depth questions. I I'm not really advocating [1:38:56, 1:39:02]: Uh in my response and it cuts even though I do feel that we need to um [1:39:03, 1:39:10]: But I won't get into that tonight. Uh you and I have talked and I I think you sort of understand my concerns about [1:39:11, 1:39:12]: Um operation [1:39:13, 1:39:16]: And the cost to to operate this city. [1:39:17, 1:39:20]: uh without seeing any [1:39:20, 1:39:22]: Cut per se. [1:39:22, 1:39:24]: Uh and I just don't [1:39:25, 1:39:34]: I I I really just don't see it. I don't see how it's adding up, but but once I pose my questions and you give me an answer, that that may be it. I may just not be aware. [1:39:34, 1:39:39]: But let me ask you this and you s you spoke to the hotel motel numbers and [1:39:40, 1:39:45]: that seem to be the same uh in twenty three and twenty four. [1:39:45, 1:39:47]: But you just indicated that [1:39:47, 1:39:50]: There will be some additional um [1:39:50, 1:39:55]: uh units coming in. So can you can you speak to that? [1:39:55, 1:40:00]: to that similarity when it when it should be a difference. Yeah. And and that's [1:40:00, 1:40:00]: You know. [1:40:01, 1:40:02]: Trying to be conservative. [1:40:03, 1:40:09]: Okay. And in our approach as it relates to the revenues. Okay. Um, we didn't anticipate one of the hotels burning down. [1:40:10, 1:40:25]: And that happened. Um, so prudence a here on the side of of caution, e you know, if we understate and we come in at the better, that's obviously better. Um, the goal is not to [1:40:26, 1:40:26]: Kelly. [1:40:27, 1:40:32]: understate well overstate and don't make it. So we're trying to be conservative in that approach, sir. [1:40:33, 1:40:53]: So my last question and concern, and it's a little bit more in depth. I know you and I uh we talked about uh the submission of some of my questions and concerns. Uh can you speak to though to uh the year numbers? Um it just seemed that [1:40:53, 1:41:01]: That's what we see thus far, it just seemed to be uh a little low. Uh and here we are. [1:41:02, 1:41:22]: You know, at the end of the year. Well, realize when we did the budget for you guys, we did the budget back in July, right? Um, we've looked at obviously what we set the expenses to be, um, based on the staff requests and obviously what our revenue collection would be. So as it relates to year to date re [1:41:22, 1:41:42]: You know, this won't jive because we're looking at next year and what next year's request from each of the departments has been, and I think they presented those to you guys at the retreat, what their request to run the operations would be. And obviously, we know that we have a revenue that we anticipate to make sure that those expenses don't exceed those revenues, because we have to have a balance. [1:41:42, 1:41:57]: balance budget. And initially we did look at having somewhere around forty three thousand dollars revenues to expenses. Um, we made some cuts, but then and obviously we would the staff reminded me that hey, the employees hadn't been given a a cost to live in but yet. [1:41:57, 1:42:04]: Um we're there were other things going on. So we adjusted to give them'cause they hadn't had one at any since twenty twenty one. [1:42:04, 1:42:20]: And so with with inflation going on, we addressed and made that and that's what's balanced off the budget revenues to expenses. Okay. Well, uh I I do have some other things. I've I've read the budget um at least twice. Uh I wrote it up and [1:42:20, 1:42:25]: Unfortunately I I I walked out of the house, I was backing out of the driveway and I didn't have it with me. [1:42:26, 1:42:28]: Um but I will share [1:42:28, 1:42:48]: uh you know, with the full council. Uh my concerns, I will send them to you. Hopefully um you'll have time to address those uh to the full council before the adoption. And just to be honest, I I really truly wanted to hear from my councilmates. [1:42:48, 1:42:55]: Uh some concerns um about the budget and [1:42:55, 1:42:58]: Every year I you know [1:42:58, 1:43:07]: I I I don't hear that and I'm just a little concerned with that, but um and I hate to be the only one every year. [1:43:07, 1:43:11]: um posing questions and concerns, et cetera, et cetera, but [1:43:12, 1:43:32]: You know, if that's what it is, you know, it is what it is. But but I will share my concerns uh with the council. But as I indicated to you earlier, um I'm not requesting any cuts here and there, even though I do feel that there need to be some. But I caution all of us, and I've heard other [1:43:32, 1:43:37]: council members say this as well that we will not revisit [1:43:38, 1:43:40]: Any increase in the millage. [1:43:40, 1:43:43]: So I think the time is is now. [1:43:43, 1:43:46]: To make sure that when it comes to [1:43:47, 1:44:07]: And I know we can always come back and adjust, but in order to operate this city, I just think that we just need to be uh conscious and cautious. I know we're in the Christmas season and you know we all like to get presents and we all like to give and and those kind of things. [1:44:06, 1:44:26]: things, but um and then you know, March and April, May and June, you know, we had to we had to pay for those things that uh, you know, those expenses that we uh had a good time with during Christmas. So I I just want to just make sure that realistically we're just looking at how we operate. [1:44:26, 1:44:27]: Great. [1:44:28, 1:44:30]: And uh just making sure that [1:44:30, 1:44:38]: We do not have to go back and and revisit that again. Um and hopefully we are stable enough to [1:44:38, 1:44:43]: uh you know, move the city forward without being able to um [1:44:43, 1:44:45]: You know, put in additional burden on our citizens. [1:44:46, 1:44:53]: So with that, ma'am will yield back and Mr. Gardner, uh, we will continue our discussion as you and I discussed and [1:44:54, 1:45:00]: And we'll just we'll be ready uh for the adoption meeting. Thank you. Miss Barber, go ahead please. [1:45:01, 1:45:08]: Yes, actually um Councilman Thomas I do. I support every year uh your recommendations and some [1:45:08, 1:45:15]: And suggestions on how to do it. Let me correct myself. Thank you, sir. Let me correct you. Um the other thing [1:45:15, 1:45:17]: I do wanna see um [1:45:18, 1:45:20]: What changes? [1:45:20, 1:45:26]: Um have been made since we adopted the millage rate because that was one of the things that we [1:45:26, 1:45:29]: asked for is that staff go back and [1:45:29, 1:45:31]: Ревізит та бюджет трям. [1:45:32, 1:45:35]: On a lot of the areas, one area in particular, I like to see. [1:45:35, 1:45:36]: Is for [1:45:36, 1:45:37]: City events. [1:45:38, 1:45:39]: And the amphitheater. [1:45:40, 1:45:40]: Um [1:45:40, 1:45:43]: Those two things I want to see trimmed down. [1:45:44, 1:45:45]: Quite a bit. [1:45:45, 1:45:46]: Um [1:45:46, 1:45:50]: But I also want to ask about the engagement letter. [1:45:51, 1:45:52]: And the audit of the [1:45:53, 1:45:55]: Um amendments and adjustments. [1:45:55, 1:45:58]: to the general ledger. I still haven't received those. [1:45:58, 1:46:03]: If I can get that information before the final adoption of the бюджет. [1:46:04, 1:46:13]: Yes, ma'am, and we're making copies for everybody and putting it in a binder so you guys will have all of that information. Can you email that to me? I can also have an email as well. It's hard copy. [1:46:14, 1:46:15]: Thank you, sir. [1:46:16, 1:46:30]: Listen, I uh I certainly and as a member of the downtown development authority like seeing what we're doing. Uh where we've added twelve new additional businesses downtown. [1:46:31, 1:46:51]: The the area that I think we constantly that I like to see some improvement on is that we're hemorrhaging money at Merrill Manders consistently. I mean just we're lit every year we're tossing more money into that. We talk about the other entity which is the amphitheater, which is driving economic development. But the money is being hemorrhaged [1:46:50, 1:46:52]: [6412.7, 6422.6]: And it's been that way for years. We've been having to subsidize that over and over again. What I did see as the council has some concern about the sound system. [1:47:03, 1:47:05]: Uh the group at the concert. [1:47:05, 1:47:25]: They they brought in their own bowl system and it was flawless. There was no feedback. It was beautiful. That concert, if you missed it, you don't know what you missed. It was a pleasure, right, Mayor? Absolutely. It's great. It was outstanding. And certainly the system that they used, and we could duplicate that, we could solve whatever uh audio problems that we had. [1:47:25, 1:47:27]: [6447.7, 6465.7]: I wanna know what plan we're putting in place to deal with Merrill Manders getting the facility booked and to stop the number, the gap between glows and plane, what we're putting into it and then what it's actually delivering for us, because the numbers seem to be spreading and going in the opposite directions. [1:47:47, 1:47:48]: Yes, sir. Uh [1:47:49, 1:47:56]: Well, I have a comment with that. I agree with that. But I I I want to say I've looked at the budget. [1:47:56, 1:48:00]: And I've heard you, Mr. Gardner, state that we're growing population. [1:48:01, 1:48:06]: Um I don't expect for us to scale back when it comes to um [1:48:07, 1:48:15]: certain things with our events and with the amphitheater, especially if it's the driving force for economic development. Um, I'm really not [1:48:16, 1:48:27]: m as concerned with that. I think we tend to focus on the amphitheater so much. I mean, it comes up every meeting, instead of talking about [1:48:29, 1:48:43]: our next project. We're still just stuck on that and and and it's been a success. Um other cities want to be like Stockbridge. Stockbridge is not looking at other cities. That's been a total big turnaround. [1:48:43, 1:48:51]: Compared to us being a GMA and they say don't be like Stockbridge. Now they're saying look at Stockbridge, right? So um [1:48:52, 1:49:00]: I think that we're doing a great job on that. We can look into some numbers, but when it comes to Merrill Manders, I remember years ago there were two staff members. [1:49:00, 1:49:05]: Now we have a bunch of staff members. There were two, and those two one worked on [1:49:06, 1:49:12]: Um, classes and programs and things that happen during the week to rent out Merrill Manders for corporate. [1:49:13, 1:49:22]: There were people that were doing com computer training downstairs. And then you had your events upstairs. They worked on events for the city, as well as [1:49:23, 1:49:42]: weddings or you name it, but there are two separate departments. And I don't know if that's being done that way or not. I'm not here to micromanage them. But maybe they would look at that. And then we have to think about COVID. For a long period of time, we were closed. And then a lot of people want to rent. [1:49:43, 1:49:46]: During the holiday time and our staff is telling them it's close. [1:49:47, 1:49:53]: to rent. So we need to come up with some type of solutions for that. Um, but those are things that we can talk about. [1:49:54, 1:50:02]: You know, and speak with our events team, maybe during the retreat and tell'em what our vision is and hopefully they can come up with a way of organizing it. [1:50:02, 1:50:03]: To do just that. [1:50:04, 1:50:04]: Um [1:50:05, 1:50:08]: Um we do know and we are aware that that building [1:50:09, 1:50:23]: probably will forever be in the red. We want to reduce the red because there are certain community buildings, capital project buildings that are we're not here to make money off of. We're here to provide for the community. [1:50:23, 1:50:39]: That's the difference. Everyone wants to compare and say, hey, I want to why can't we be like John's Creek? Why can't we be like Swanee? Well, we have to invest it. You can't have it both ways. So the budget reflects that. It reflects us growing. [1:50:41, 1:50:58]: I just I certainly concur with those remarks. I when I say I know that Merrill Manders is never gonna make it's not gonna be profitable, but we've been going in the wrong direction in terms of how much money we've had to subsidize it with. In this budget, what how much what's the dollar amount we're subsidizing? [1:51:00, 1:51:04]: Um the more we actually have hold on. [1:51:14, 1:51:22]: Uh right at seven hundred and thirty thousand. And but let me go back and it and and I and I and I'll say this until [1:51:22, 1:51:25]: I no longer work here, pass away, long gone. [1:51:28, 1:51:33]: The Georgia Convention Center National the Georgia International Congress Center. [1:51:34, 1:51:37]: The Savannah Congress and uh [1:51:37, 1:51:38]: Convention center. [1:51:39, 1:51:40]: Um [1:51:41, 1:51:54]: You name it. Any of these all of those venues do not break even. Not even close. I certainly understand that and I can't. [1:51:55, 1:51:57]: And I gave this example even at the retreat. [1:51:58, 1:52:00]: Parks and recreation. [1:52:00, 1:52:02]: What you put into it. [1:52:02, 1:52:04]: You do not get back out of it. [1:52:05, 1:52:17]: It's intrinsic value in your community that bring people to your community. If there were no if there were no pox and wreck in this county, I would surmise that whoever vote to remove it wouldn't be in office very long. [1:52:18, 1:52:31]: Right. Because that's something that that obviously people want when they come in, new families come in, they want their kids involved in something. But does it pay a fair share? As it relates to the Merrill Manders [1:52:31, 1:52:34]: It's now almost a twenty year old building. [1:52:34, 1:52:35]: Mm-hmm. Right. [1:52:36, 1:52:37]: its competitors. [1:52:38, 1:52:39]: has grown. [1:52:40, 1:52:41]: Right. [1:52:41, 1:52:53]: Not only is Demur competing against some of the other venues in Jonesboro and other locations, it's also not competing against some of the hotels that are in the area because they have conference centers like the one we just attended for the municipal building dinner. [1:52:54, 1:52:56]: The foster winter, right? [1:52:56, 1:52:59]: Dot venue is competing against your mural. [1:53:00, 1:53:04]: Ай, асфальт до рекомендація сплос. [1:53:04, 1:53:19]: to put so the necessary resources. We put some money into it, six hundred thousand, but you're talking about if you're looking at inflation, if you were to build a Merrill Manders right now, it'd probably cost you upwards of fifteen million dollars, we put six hundred thousand to [1:53:20, 1:53:21]: We have it. [1:53:22, 1:53:26]: That's like owning a three hundred thousand dollar home and put three thousand dollars worth of renovations. [1:53:27, 1:53:30]: What are you gonna get for that? Absolutely nothing. [1:53:30, 1:53:32]: No buying for the book. [1:53:32, 1:53:36]: So what we're seeing is if you want to continue to have this venue [1:53:36, 1:53:38]: We have to invest, change it. [1:53:38, 1:53:46]: Make the necessary arranges to it to make it more competitive, not only against its current competitors, but potential future competitors. [1:53:46, 1:53:47]: Right. [1:53:47, 1:53:54]: Um our county just built a facility up in Fairview. We just talked about it. That competes against this facility. [1:53:55, 1:53:55]: Right. [1:53:56, 1:53:58]: So that's the reason why [1:53:58, 1:54:00]: En an i continue to say to council. [1:54:03, 1:54:04]: Please. [1:54:04, 1:54:08]: Look at the city, not for today or yesterday. [1:54:09, 1:54:10]: Please look at this city. [1:54:10, 1:54:12]: Where's going to be tomorrow? [1:54:15, 1:54:24]: Tomorrow. That's important. Right? And we understand that some of these things that we build, mm-hmm, right, they're gonna come with costs. Whether you build a recreation center, [1:54:25, 1:54:26]: If we build that tomorrow. [1:54:28, 1:54:29]: Who's stopping it? [1:54:31, 1:54:48]: Where's where's that coming from? Mr. Gardner, I understand every all the directions. Mr. Alexander, I need to let I need to say this, right? Because I just need you to close the game. The wrong impression get put out there that when we do these things, when we build these facilities. Yes, they're wonderful resources, but they also come with expenses. [1:54:49, 1:55:09]: Yeah, I I'll direct available. No, uh what what I want you to do is to make sure that when when when that facility is i is there that we can rent it and there are people there available to actually open it and they're not telling the public [1:55:09, 1:55:29]: That is closed during peak season. I there's some, I'm asking you to go and look to see what's going on because there it's not booked a lot and it needs to be booked more. It's not gonna close down to where we're doing these numbers where it's generating revenue, but the amount that we're subsidizing this entity. [1:55:29, 1:55:49]: Grows every year. It was over 300,000 last year. Yes. And it's getting bigger for this year. So whatever you can do, I don't know the answer to that. Go look to see what it is that we can do to make sure that we're taking advantage of every opportunity. When somebody calls the book, somebody's answering the phone. Somebody's showing it to them. [1:55:49, 1:56:08]: But it's making it available with the facility that we have, understanding that we need to put some additional funding in it to make it and to improve it. And I would start, as I said, with the sound system being improved with something similar to what this group brought in over the weekend, because there were no sound issues over the week. [1:56:08, 1:56:17]: Yes, sir. We will we'll do But I I I'm not trying to beat up on you with this particular issue. I just want you to to take your pencil and sharpen it and see what you can find. [1:56:17, 1:56:30]: Yes sir, we'll do. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Thank you, Mayor. Uh I'm gonna agree with a lot of these these comments, but uh Mr. Gardner, I am proposing a few things. Um [1:56:30, 1:56:33]: in the document that I am sending you. [1:56:33, 1:56:35]: But let me say this. [1:56:35, 1:56:42]: This is how I look at how we operate to be more efficient and effective. [1:56:42, 1:57:02]: And as we talk about assessments, I think this is what we have to do. I think when you look at community development uh permitting and inspection, it was an assessment. And we, you know, and we made those improvements. I'm gonna give Mr. Aaron a lot of credit, uh, just in general maintenance. [1:57:02, 1:57:19]: And I know he he and his staff did somewhat of an assessment and we saw the improvements in general maintenance. So we have to do that across the board. So if we're talking about the Murray Manner's Conference Center. [1:57:19, 1:57:21]: And I'll say this. [1:57:22, 1:57:28]: We attend events all the time at Demur. So we see [1:57:29, 1:57:37]: We see where the gaps are. We see where things can be improved. I agree with you. A lot of these things are not. [1:57:38, 1:57:40]: Built or intent to [1:57:41, 1:58:01]: make and I know someone said you know the word profit we don't we don't use the word profit in municipal government we talk about surplus but not profit but it's about the services that you render back and what I'm saying is we can do a better job in making sure that [1:58:01, 1:58:19]: we render back from the mural manders a better service. Um because a lot of events and programs that used to be booked at the mural, they'll gone to other places to speak to your point about these other things or [1:58:20, 1:58:24]: getting better and the murder is still standing the same. But I'm just saying [1:58:24, 1:58:36]: We have talked about the sound system for a while there at the mural. So something we just have to try to improve on. Now we may not be do the the total fix. [1:58:37, 1:58:41]: But something that you see year after year, year after year [1:58:41, 1:59:01]: I just think we just have to do it. So I think we just need to take the time, pull back, and just look at the assessment or do an assessment and just see where we can make those improvements and see what the results will be, you know, from that. I remember once there was a sewer smell that. [1:59:01, 1:59:08]: And and you know, I was hearing back from a lot of folks saying, well when we come down, you know, there's this myth. [1:59:08, 1:59:10]: It was corrected. [1:59:10, 1:59:24]: So it's just a little things that we can do to try to correct the mural. And I w you know, I and I think we'll sort of get a bigger bang. Yes, sir. You know, from the mural, but but we have to do the assessment. But in my uh [1:59:25, 1:59:37]: response to you about the budget, uh I am making some recommendations uh about the mural and as I said I will share this to the council and this and I think it it's gonna help a little bit. [1:59:37, 1:59:49]: Um, but I'll just wait and um and and send that. But I will say this, well, I'm I'm gonna hold this comment here, but but I will share this to the c with the council, my recommendations uh about the barrel. [1:59:50, 1:59:51]: Thank you. [1:59:51, 1:59:56]: Uh all right. Any other comments from the council? J just just one last one if I could. [1:59:56, 2:00:10]: I think and I just want to focus on what what we're doing, we're talking about this overall budget. We gotta look at the growth side. The amphitheater is generating a growth side. We did put out a RFP, correct? For downtown. [2:00:12, 2:00:24]: Right. We've seen a lot of results and we're gonna see some results of people who just would not have been playing in this particular area of town had we not made those investments, correct? [2:00:26, 2:00:36]: Yes, sir. A and I think everything that we've done through the planning process obviously for the downtown and starting now to implement that, we've got a good guy. [2:00:36, 2:00:56]: And Mr. Alliance, that's that's you know, making some things happen. We've got our first revolving fund loan from the state for a downtown project. That's gonna be probably one of many. Uh my goal is to take I go take advantage of of that opportunity because it's almost free money. Um and if we do some other things around with Dash's crew, with with the [2:00:56, 2:01:05]: the water infrastructure and become a water first community, that knocks off another additional points off of any grants that awarded to our businesses and to the city. [2:01:06, 2:01:14]: Um which ultimately saves money. So there's gonna be some things that we're gonna be looking at that that's gonna help with the downtown revitalization. There is interest. [2:01:15, 2:01:27]: by entities in the downtown. Um obviously our downtown, unlike everybody else, is not big. We only really have seven buildings in the downtown, but our goal is to grow [2:01:27, 2:01:35]: to twofold in the vacant spots that we have, probably need to remove one or two other buildings out of there. [2:01:35, 2:01:55]: Um, hopefully with the assistance of the private sector and barely new downtown that's gonna be really something that everybody would enjoy, um, not just the periphery of what we see on Jodeco Road and potentially on Patrick Henry, but also right here in the downtown that folks can walk around, enjoy the walk around the amphitheater and be able to walk across on the bridge. [2:01:55, 2:02:05]: As you guys know, we did a wonderful job, contrary to some folks. And we went to DC and got funding to actually study to put monies towards the bridge and we were told, once you do that, [2:02:06, 2:02:07]: We will send you the money to build it. [2:02:08, 2:02:08]: Right. [2:02:08, 2:02:26]: Um and so that's important. And as you guys know, that was and that's something that we need to continue doing is making sure that we're lobbying those folks to re to to be a return on those those dollars. Um many of y'all might know, you know, Georgia is not a receiving state, we are a giving state when it comes to federal dollars. [2:02:27, 2:02:27]: Right. [2:02:28, 2:02:29]: And the only way we get it back [2:02:30, 2:02:50]: to go up there and knock upon the doors of those folks to get s those resources coming back to us. So yes. Um we're gonna look at all of those and make those things happen, sir. And as you said, the the entity for the Highway 138 hotel was somebody who was that was involved in the amphitheater. Uh yes. Right. And so I we d again as we [2:02:49, 2:02:59]: Councilman Thomas said, if we just wanted to break even or be somewhere in that vicinity, if it's generating these millions of dollars in development. [2:02:59, 2:03:07]: I'm okay with the level of activity that activity that we have in it. Right. And and obviously, you know, the the return is usually slow moving, right? Um [2:03:08, 2:03:12]: but ultimately it becomes a marketing for our community, for our downtown. [2:03:12, 2:03:18]: Did we say that you know, we've invested these public dollars. Now we're asking the private sector to invest the private side. [2:03:18, 2:03:21]: Right, as I mentioned to you guys when I first got here last year. [2:03:22, 2:03:24]: The donut hole is downtown. [2:03:25, 2:03:30]: Right? We were the fastest growing, one of the fastest growing communities, not only in the state. [2:03:31, 2:03:33]: But I want folks to remember we would have wanted to f the I [2:03:33, 2:03:39]: Twenty two thousand and three, two thousand and four, Henry County was the fastest growing county in the United States of America. [2:03:41, 2:03:42]: The fastest. [2:03:42, 2:03:44]: The one place that didn't grow? [2:03:45, 2:03:46]: Right here. [2:03:47, 2:04:07]: Right, and so now that we've turned our eyes, we've turned our efforts um into the downtown. You guys work with with the staff to get the tad done. We gotta we got one more hurdle to get over with the tad, which is getting the county and the school board to assist in that effort. And once that happens, obviously now we can put something else leverage to bear. Um [2:04:07, 2:04:21]: The programs that Mr. Alliance has put in place for small business incentives, that's driving folks' interest even more so too. And so as long as we continue to work those plans and make things happen, yes, we will see that return on the investment. Um and it'll be tenfold moving forward and [2:04:22, 2:04:22]: No. [2:04:23, 2:04:26]: I as as somebody that's made this place home for twenty four years. [2:04:26, 2:04:33]: Um and I had this discussion with the school board member, not a school board member, but a school board employee during during our Todd meeting. [2:04:34, 2:04:37]: He grew up here in Stockbridge, and I asked him to close his eyes. [2:04:37, 2:04:41]: And remember what's downtown Stockbridge look in nineteen ninety. [2:04:42, 2:04:43]: Would it look like in two thousand? [2:04:44, 2:04:46]: What it looked like in twenty ten. [2:04:46, 2:04:48]: In twenty thirty, and you know what he said? [2:04:49, 2:04:50]: Are they ended out assessment? [2:04:51, 2:04:51]: Nothing. [2:04:52, 2:04:53]: Nothing changed. It looks the same. [2:04:54, 2:04:58]: Other than minus a few buildings that we've torn down the old police, blah blah blah. [2:04:59, 2:05:00]: The same. [2:05:00, 2:05:02]: You can't say that technically for McDonough, right? [2:05:04, 2:05:05]: McDonough's actually seen a revival. [2:05:06, 2:05:08]: Hampton seeing some revival. [2:05:08, 2:05:10]: Lucas Grove's seeing some revival. [2:05:11, 2:05:12]: Right? It's our turn. [2:05:12, 2:05:17]: To see some the revival in downtown Stockbridge, we have the population here, we're growing. [2:05:17, 2:05:18]: And I think you'll see [2:05:18, 2:05:19]: Um [2:05:20, 2:05:25]: in a few fe hopefully a few weeks, um, you'll see some additional er um interest. [2:05:25, 2:05:30]: Um coming to you guys as the Urban Redevelopment Authority interests in the downtown area. [2:05:30, 2:05:34]: Uh so yes, folks are starting to see what's happening and want to be a part of it. [2:05:35, 2:05:37]: Absolutely. Thanks. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:05:37, 2:05:46]: Yes, I do I support the efforts um of the amphitheater and all that it's doing for our city to attract investors. [2:05:46, 2:05:52]: And everybody else. Um, my only concern is with um the operations of it. [2:05:52, 2:05:54]: If we are able to get a partnership. [2:05:55, 2:05:56]: Someone who could share in the [2:05:56, 2:05:58]: cost to operate it. [2:05:59, 2:06:00]: That is what I'd like to see. [2:06:01, 2:06:02]: If we are able to partner [2:06:03, 2:06:05]: В самому ти шер на кост. [2:06:06, 2:06:08]: We could use funds. [2:06:09, 2:06:10]: For other projects. [2:06:11, 2:06:12]: I believe in partnerships. [2:06:12, 2:06:18]: And I do not believe that the city should have to foot a hundred percent. [2:06:18, 2:06:20]: Of everything that we do here. [2:06:21, 2:06:23]: That's one thing. The other thing, um [2:06:23, 2:06:25]: А супосинг [2:06:26, 2:06:30]: Some of these um city events. One in particular. [2:06:31, 2:06:33]: And maybe there may be another way to do it. [2:06:34, 2:06:37]: Ал'єв на експлуаті back to school event. [2:06:38, 2:06:39]: But we have budgeted for it. [2:06:40, 2:06:41]: We tend to spend more [2:06:42, 2:06:43]: For the entertainment. [2:06:44, 2:06:48]: But the people who come walk away with less than what we paid. [2:06:48, 2:06:51]: For them to come and be entertained. [2:06:52, 2:06:56]: If it's truly to provide a benefit and service to the residents. [2:06:57, 2:07:00]: I would prefer that those students who come to the back to school event. [2:07:01, 2:07:01]: Everybody. [2:07:02, 2:07:03]: She'll walk away and [2:07:03, 2:07:07]: With all of the su school supplies that they need prepared for the first day. [2:07:08, 2:07:10]: Too often with our city events. [2:07:10, 2:07:11]: We run out. [2:07:12, 2:07:14]: We run out of the supplies that we [2:07:14, 2:07:17]: actually intended for the events. [2:07:18, 2:07:20]: So maybe we can think of another way to [2:07:21, 2:07:26]: I don't know, plan and organize these events, but we're spending way too much money. [2:07:26, 2:07:27]: Way too much. [2:07:28, 2:07:31]: Буджетинг фордикуляр івент and [2:07:32, 2:07:34]: The benefit is [2:07:35, 2:07:36]: Not [2:07:36, 2:07:46]: what we intended. Understood. Yes, ma'am. And we'll look at that. Um I'll look at that as well. And you're right with the partnership side, obviously, you know [2:07:48, 2:08:08]: We're we're working and hopefully Harold will have some really good information about that partnership opportunity that presented to the council um with some of our new local partners to the community and what they're willing to put step up and put forward is above and beyond what we've seen. [2:08:08, 2:08:28]: before. So hopefully those will come to fruition. Yes. And that will assist us. So yes, we're working trying to get that deal partnership. Partnerships. Yes, ma'am. I don't care who it is, just ma'am. Thank you. Alright, the no other comments for the council and this is a public hearing, so I need to open this up at this time. So as a public hearing so [2:08:28, 2:08:44]: So I'll acknowledge that at this point. So if any comments on my far left for uh this um positive comments for this particular budget hearing, that's that's on my far uh left. Any c positive comments from my far left. Any positive comments uh needed in the middle. [2:08:44, 2:09:00]: Anything on no on the right side. All right. Any negative comments, comments that uh that opposed or any c negative comments in reference to what's been mentioned tonight for the budget on my far left side. Anything in the middle? Anything in the right? No comments whatsoever, so I'll [2:09:00, 2:09:01]: I'm sorry, ma'am, you have a comment? [2:09:02, 2:09:04]: What if foreign or guests, ma'am? [2:09:05, 2:09:20]: Ma ma'am, okay. I had I I mentioned four earlier. Now I mentioned against. So are you against any comments? If you are, you can come to the podium, you get up to ten minutes if you need that, if you're only one speaking, the name and address and you come to the podium and speak. If is it is it [2:09:20, 2:09:21]: Is four? [2:09:22, 2:09:24]: Come to the podium, man, please. [2:09:27, 2:09:30]: Give it give your name and name and address and make a comment, please. [2:09:30, 2:09:35]: Tasha Kempel, four ten Chase, Marion Wade, McDonough, Georgia, three oh two five. Okay. [2:09:35, 2:09:37]: I'm just like curious. [2:09:38, 2:09:46]: about the street lights. Um, everybody's wanting to go solar, so that might be a suggestion. Might help cut the cost down. [2:09:47, 2:10:01]: Well I obviously this this was about the okay. This is about the Pacific budget. Streetlights was a separate uh conversation we had earlier uh earlier. With the taxes and everything. [2:10:01, 2:10:08]: Right. So you're you're just concerned about the s you don't understand why we're not utilized. Maybe that's something to look into. [2:10:09, 2:10:14]: Solar lights for the neighborhoods. Okay, well I'll tell you what the staff will take a look at that then in reference to [2:10:14, 2:10:18]: solar lights versus any other type of LEDs in that nature, right? [2:10:18, 2:10:20]: Right, and I have another question. [2:10:20, 2:10:23]: Um with the sidewalks being ten foot wide. [2:10:23, 2:10:27]: Are y'all suggesting anything in the future about like golf carts or anything? [2:10:29, 2:10:31]: Um with the Jartico station. [2:10:32, 2:10:39]: Well suggest what what's your question? Um would y'all be appealing to having golf carts like Peachtree City, like [2:10:40, 2:11:00]: Or family. I'll tell you what we haven't discussed that I know of recently and m we'll put maybe put that on our for our uh budget ret not a budget retreat, but actual retreat period we have in February. We'll talk about that. We'll see. That's an idea. Thank you for that. Thank you. All right, appreciate it. All right. On that note, uh no seem like there are no other comments, so I will close the uh public hearing and [2:10:59, 2:11:08]: And there's not a vote on this. We'll have our next public hearing approval. Uh adoption of our budget at our next public hearing, which will be December 11th. [2:11:09, 2:11:29]: On that note, we'll move on to new business. Uh Council of Consideration approved site engineering incorporated to perform water utilities relocation for the Georgia Department of Transportation State Route 138, State Route 42 Project, PI 322050 under the city annual uh contractor agreement and amount of [2:11:29, 2:11:36]: Of two hundred thirty-nine thousand eight hundred and thirty-two dollars and fifty cents. The funding source is PLOS five. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:11:36, 2:11:51]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Uh as Mayor and Council is w is aware, GDOT has a widening and relocation project at the intersection. That includes the intersection of one thirty eight and highway forty two. Unfortunately, the city has some [2:11:52, 2:12:12]: Utilities that are in conflict with the project and they're out they're not in easements, but they're in GDOTs right away. So we're required to move those at our expense. So since this project has been expedited, we're asking for permission to use our on-call utility contractor. Our engineering firm has reviewed the cost. [2:12:12, 2:12:12]: [7933.1, 7952.3]: estimate and found it'd be in line if we bid the project out and so we're asking for council approval so that we can move forward with this project because GDOT has already issued the notice to proceed for this project and so we want to be able to get our utilities out of the way so that they can move forward with the project. [2:12:32, 2:12:45]: Okay. Mayor Yeah, go ahead please. I'd like to make a motion to approve the um site engineering ink to perform awarded tilted relocation for the Georgia Department of Transportation program thirty eight and set out forty two project. [2:12:46, 2:12:49]: All right, that's the motion's been made by Miss Ganttz. Is there a second? [2:12:49, 2:12:50]: I said. [2:12:50, 2:13:10]: M Ms. Barber, second that. All right. Now, is any discussion before we take the vote? I just want one question. Go ahead, sir. So the project has already been let so they could start any day now, correct? Is it this not holding up? Well it's we will certainly are proving it to move it forward, but they should be getting started pretty soon, right? Yes, so we had a meeting uh last week and I think [2:13:10, 2:13:19]: Is another one scheduled, I think, in the next couple of weeks to give us the data of when they're actually gonna start. But the notice to proceed has already been issued. [2:13:20, 2:13:21]: All right, thank you. [2:13:21, 2:13:39]: All right for no the comments and uh I uh all in favor of the vote plus please indicate decision. Thank you, Mr. Uh Thank you sir Aaron. All right. Next is counsel ca council to review the consideration of property tax homestead exemption plan and ordinance for twenty twenty five. Mr. Gardner, please. [2:13:45, 2:13:54]: Good afternoon, Council. Once again, um as you know, we we discussed um at our last meeting the um property tax exemptions. [2:13:54, 2:14:14]: Uh as you know, we required if we want to issue property tax exemptions to go through that process, determine what those exemptions would be. I think we presented to you guys a cafeteria plan. We got a recommendation back from you to match what the county is done, is done as it relates to exemptions, which was go from ten to the fifteen. [2:14:14, 2:14:34]: In your pocket, you'll see obviously we've adjusted those numbers, and those numbers have adjusted at the bottom as it relates to what that total uh impact on the gross tax revenue would be and what the equivalent millage rate is. So with the recommendations we got back from council, you [2:14:34, 2:14:43]: You're looking at um a total rebate back to the citizens of just over four hundred thousand, which equates to about a point two two mil. [2:14:44, 2:14:45]: Um in the military. [2:14:46, 2:15:06]: And if that's if if the wish of council will move forward with this plan that you reviewed at the last meeting, uh we'll then work obviously to to have the uh resolution done and that way we get it to the legislature um to act on in the next legislative session and this property tax exemption will take effect. Um obviously we put [2:15:06, 2:15:17]: on the ballot um on the twenty twenty four ballot, which is a presidential year, so we should get a big turnout and then obviously take effect in the twenty twenty five year. [2:15:18, 2:15:38]: Mr. Hazard, go ahead, please. Certainly nobody up here wants to do anything like raise the millage rate.$400,000 is a is a is a is a large one. When we originally voted for the lowest millage possible, my contention is that we already put these deductions in there already. So because by setting the millage rate, [2:15:38, 2:15:58]: Rate at 3.77, the deductions were already baked into the cake already initially, because if not, we would have set the millage rate at a higher rate at the 4.12. That's significant. That's the difference between where we're going. If we lower this by$400,000, they're gonna leave a hole in the [2:15:58, 2:16:12]: budget, right? Oh well, so you that that no, the the recommendation from the staff was four point two one mils that would have given you an opportunity to do a re a rail back a roll back. But that's what I'm saying. We we've so in essence we've already did it. [2:16:14, 2:16:14]: No, sir. [2:16:15, 2:16:26]: No, no it did not. You you're looking at it wrong. No, sir. You adopted what was the break even Miller's rate of three point seven seven. Right, which put a lesser burden on the taxpayer. [2:16:26, 2:16:29]: But but also you so that's a lesser burden, but at the same point [2:16:30, 2:16:31]: If you give a [2:16:31, 2:16:38]: A exemption, you take away from that three point seven seven by two point two two mils. [2:16:38, 2:16:58]: It it doesn't work the other way. Right, but that's exactly what I'm saying, which is I've already already reduced it from four to four one one two five. My thing, what is the content what if we had that we we gotta make some choices now? So the d the the the amount of the original deductions that you presented to us reduce with a with a calculator to how [2:16:58, 2:16:59]: How much? [2:17:01, 2:17:01]: So you [2:17:02, 2:17:22]: The the the original proposal wasn't four hundred thousand dollars in reduction. What was the original proposal? I do not have that number. I think it was somewhere around two hundred and something, just under three hundred thousand. Right. And that's the consideration this council has to make because if we go up to these numbers matching what the county did, that's a [2:17:22, 2:17:31]: another two hundred thousand dollar we gotta cover uh in the budget, which means that we might potentially have to do somet an adjustment that none of us wanna make. [2:17:31, 2:17:38]: So we can make that make that decision right now to to make this a two hundred thousand dollar cut instead of a four hundred thousand dollar cut. [2:17:39, 2:17:49]: So do you so i i and if it's the will of council, if you want us to go back to w what Ed and I originally showed you guys at the last meeting, we will adjust those numbers back from [2:17:49, 2:17:59]: From fifteen back to the ten. Um, and then obviously we'll bring that's that's what we'll bring forward with the resolution though for you guys to approve. [2:18:01, 2:18:02]: If that's what you want to do. [2:18:03, 2:18:23]: Let me ask you this, Mr. Gardner. No matter what we decide to do this evening, this still has to not only the citizens have to vote on it in November 2024, it has to go through a process of the legislative uh our our legislative process, I mean downtown? So w our de our local delegation will carry this through the process in the House and in [2:18:23, 2:18:24]: In the Senate. [2:18:24, 2:18:44]: at the state level. Um there's never been property tax exemption that's not gone through the legislative state. They won't vote for it. They they will they they have 100% voted for it. Okay. And I don't think there's been any community when you talk about property tax exemption that's voted it down. Okay. Um people usually vote to take to for you to take less [2:18:44, 2:18:53]: Less from them than more. Um, they get a rebate. And so that's pass so yes, that's the process. Once we do that and we put that resolution forward. [2:18:53, 2:18:57]: Um if it's the will to go back to that number, we'll do that with the resolution. [2:18:58, 2:19:03]: We will forward that to uh state representatives. They will take it through the legislative process. [2:19:03, 2:19:07]: It will be a ballot initiative on the twenty twenty four November. [2:19:07, 2:19:27]: During the presidential election, you'll have that note that do you want to accept property tax exemption for the city of Stockbridge, blah blah blah. You take yes. It passes and it takes effect in 2025 that season. Right. Mayor Ford. So m Mr. Gardner, I and I and I do understand, but I I just want you to confirm if my understanding [2:19:27, 2:19:32]: And is correct. So we're here at 3.77. [2:19:33, 2:19:37]: And then when you figure in the exemptions [2:19:38, 2:19:58]: Then you you you you you you're coming down, you're down here. So that means that we are receiving less with the exemption. Is is that correct? That is correct. You're giving you giving back to the residents. So what you collect, you're giving it back to them. So you will get back less. Right. So I know this is not the body but the budget again. See that's why [2:19:58, 2:19:59]: Where I keep harping on. [2:20:00, 2:20:01]: Let's make sure [2:20:02, 2:20:04]: And this budget's for its operations. [2:20:05, 2:20:10]: that we have enough to operate because I don't think no one on this council [2:20:10, 2:20:12]: It's gonna go back. [2:20:12, 2:20:13]: And entertain [2:20:15, 2:20:17]: This millage again. I I I don't think so. [2:20:18, 2:20:38]: It this this doesn't affect your FY twenty four budget. It will affect your FY twenty five. But but if you do not have enough to operate something we have to it once yes. Okay, i if you when you when you look when you start looking at the FY twenty uh FY twenty [2:20:38, 2:20:52]: but twenty-five budget, you will have to factor in that minus two point two if it if it's approved by the voters. Okay. You'll have to factor it in that you'll we get less four hundred thousand in revenues. Now the one thing that you also have to consider is [2:20:52, 2:20:54]: You also might have growth in your digest. [2:20:55, 2:20:56]: All right. [2:20:56, 2:21:06]: Uh'cause we'cause we're talking about twenty five. Twenty twenty five, correct. So if you look at what your house was valued at two years ago compared to what is valued at today, your house is valued more. [2:21:07, 2:21:27]: Right. So you're going to have more businesses. So you're assessed correct. So your assessment so it can offset itself. And that's what I tried to explain at the last meeting is yes, you're looking at a bite, but if you continue to grow, that digest grows as your value grow, so you're taking obviously whatever would have been anticipated revenues depending on what your budget looked like. [2:21:27, 2:21:31]: you you can actually absorb that cost. What would impact you is [2:21:32, 2:21:38]: Right. If we don't have any growth and then that happens then you you obviously will have to be looking at uh at reduced revenues. [2:21:39, 2:21:51]: But obviously over the last over the last ten years, I I think all of us would surmise that, you know, our house value has gone literally up the roof. Like I gave the example to you guys. [2:21:52, 2:21:59]: My house had bought for a hundred and thirty six thousand, sold for one hundred and thirty six thousand fifteen years later is now valued just under three hundred thousand. [2:22:00, 2:22:13]: But this is not to vote on tonight. Just we're looking at this, correct? If if if if it's no if if you want me to change it, we'll make the changes and go back and run to bring it back. If you are accepting of this number [2:22:13, 2:22:21]: Then obviously w if you vote on it, we will then put that of the mayor sign the resolution and it goes to the our representative to take it into the assembly. [2:22:22, 2:22:23]: I I would like to see [2:22:24, 2:22:34]: the other change. Um and I um my concern is uh uh probably with the majority of the council right now, um [2:22:36, 2:22:56]: If we reduce uh depending on what the number looks like, uh because I'm definitely not increasing a millish rate to fill in a hole. It's like you give, take, give, take. Exactly. I'm not, you know, I I said it earlier on when we were talking about taxes and implement a tax, rip the band-aid off, don't create a hole that you have to control. [2:22:56, 2:22:59]: continue to increase, incre increase'cause I'm not gonna vote for it. [2:23:01, 2:23:12]: We're gonna if this was what we were gonna for do for Millage, that's what we needed. Not this is what we need for Millage, but we're gonna give these discounts and oh now we need to increase our Millage. [2:23:13, 2:23:20]: I'm not I'm not gonna agree to that. So um I take this as something I'm just gonna look at for tonight and look at another report later. [2:23:21, 2:23:26]: All right, so otherwise that's one opinion. Any other opinions on how you want to address this? Oh go ahead, Miss Barber. [2:23:27, 2:23:31]: Mr Gardner, I do have a question in regards to the septic tank. [2:23:32, 2:23:36]: Tax exemption. So there are four hundred and twenty seven [2:23:39, 2:23:45]: Yes. Househo households that have septic systems. Estimated, yes, ma'am. Okay, that's citywide. [2:23:45, 2:23:46]: Yes, ma'am. Okay. [2:23:47, 2:23:50]: Can you tell me and how do I know what the [2:23:50, 2:23:51]: Actual [2:23:51, 2:23:52]: Percentage or [2:23:53, 2:23:54]: Great. [2:23:54, 2:23:55]: It is. [2:23:57, 2:23:57]: Excuse me. [2:23:59, 2:24:00]: I know that you say [2:24:01, 2:24:02]: Here, according to this chart. [2:24:03, 2:24:06]: The Stockbridge exemption for home [2:24:07, 2:24:09]: On septic tank. [2:24:10, 2:24:12]: You have five thousand dollars. Yes, ma'am. [2:24:12, 2:24:16]: So do I divide that five thousand dollars by the number of households? [2:24:18, 2:24:19]: That are on septic. [2:24:19, 2:24:24]: No, that's five thousand that each that each one of those households will get. [2:24:24, 2:24:31]: Each home? Each each home will get a five thousand access. Because I don't see a total. Oh, for the assessed value. [2:24:32, 2:24:39]: Of the assessed value. Right, so if your home of your home. So if your home is valued at a hundred thousand, your assessed value is a hundred thousand. [2:24:39, 2:24:57]: Once you minus off your exemption, you won't be taxed on a hundred, you'll be taxed on ninety-five. With with just that one. But if you categorize it all, all of those exemptions boil down what your assessed taxable value will be. So you pay less overall. Okay, but I see that this is the only exemption. [2:24:57, 2:24:58]: On here. [2:24:59, 2:25:00]: That you didn't include a total. [2:25:01, 2:25:02]: Say again? [2:25:03, 2:25:05]: The onseptic tank. [2:25:07, 2:25:07]: I see. [2:25:08, 2:25:09]: The stock word exemption [2:25:10, 2:25:12]: Amount of five thousand dollars. [2:25:12, 2:25:15]: But that last column for totals. [2:25:16, 2:25:17]: There is no total. [2:25:18, 2:25:20]: For the four hundred and twenty seven. [2:25:20, 2:25:22]: Homes that are on septing. [2:25:26, 2:25:34]: Okay. And I don't know why uh I I can't explain why I know it's I know it's included in the annual in the total annual amount. [2:25:35, 2:25:38]: It's included in in that amount which I'm [2:25:40, 2:25:43]: during the final hearing to adopt the millage rate. [2:25:45, 2:26:00]: I would not have accepted or approved a millage rate without the homestead exemption for those who are inseptic. So even if the council doesn't approve any of these other tax exemptions [2:26:00, 2:26:03]: The one exemption for homeowners who are on septic. [2:26:05, 2:26:06]: I'm asking that this council [2:26:07, 2:26:07]: Um [2:26:08, 2:26:12]: Move forward with approving it and supporting it. It's the right thing to do. [2:26:13, 2:26:15]: Those homeowners are on septic systems. [2:26:15, 2:26:17]: They wouldn't be using the cities. [2:26:18, 2:26:19]: Water [2:26:19, 2:26:20]: Infrastructure. [2:26:21, 2:26:24]: So why would we we why would we be billing them? [2:26:26, 2:26:27]: When they're on septing. [2:26:27, 2:26:30]: We're not building we don't build septic folks for septic, ma'am. [2:26:31, 2:26:31]: Okay. [2:26:32, 2:26:33]: So I know [2:26:33, 2:26:34]: We don't know. [2:26:34, 2:26:36]: that those who are on septic systems [2:26:37, 2:26:40]: There are water or sewer? [2:26:40, 2:26:41]: Infrastructure. [2:26:41, 2:26:43]: Normally they are B O four. [2:26:43, 2:26:53]: We all get billed for it with Henry County. Well, what I don't want is for the city. Either they're on Henry County water. Mr Gardner, let me fin I want to finish. Make my point. [2:26:54, 2:26:57]: Those homeowners should not [2:26:57, 2:26:58]: Have to pay. [2:26:58, 2:27:00]: Into the cities. [2:27:01, 2:27:02]: Sewer system. [2:27:03, 2:27:04]: Or water system. [2:27:04, 2:27:06]: If they're on septic. [2:27:06, 2:27:07]: Why would they? [2:27:09, 2:27:11]: We should do the right thing. [2:27:11, 2:27:12]: That's all. [2:27:12, 2:27:14]: I've been I've been bringing this up. [2:27:15, 2:27:16]: For almost a year now. [2:27:17, 2:27:18]: So I want to be real clear. [2:27:19, 2:27:22]: about it. I'm not going to stop asking. So thank you. [2:27:23, 2:27:24]: Mayor. [2:27:24, 2:27:26]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [2:27:26, 2:27:44]: I I would like more information just in regards to what municipalities give septic tax exemptions, along with I I don't think there's any. I've looked it up myself. There is a and I think that when there was a constituent one who was asking about septic [2:27:44, 2:27:48]: Um, after researching extensively [2:27:49, 2:27:56]: I don't even see it, not even the federal government gives septic tax relief, but they do have grants. [2:27:57, 2:27:59]: And I think maybe that might be the confusion. [2:28:00, 2:28:20]: If I'm wrong, let me know, Mr. Gardner. See if you can find some research on it to see if someone does septic tax exemptions. But based off of what I've read thus far, that's not the case. I've read more so they have grants for improvements or they give grants for offsetting, but not necessarily for example. [2:28:19, 2:28:33]: exemptions specifically for septic. Yes. Mr. Harris Mr. Harris told us that they can't find anywhere where there's a septic type exception. Yeah, well I'm I'm looking all over the United States and so that's my concern. That's what I'm saying. I went from United States [2:28:34, 2:28:43]: all the way down to our local municipalities and I haven't found anything. So I just, you know, wanna give a heads up on that. I I need it to [2:28:43, 2:28:57]: Um, I think there may be a confusion there between uh the different grants and other deductions for uh septic tanks, but not necessarily for a tax exemption. [2:28:58, 2:29:18]: Mayor Ford, if I may. Mayor Ford. Sir. Step stand by please. Yes, yes, sir. Mr. Aaron, let me let me be clear on Mayor Pro Tem's concern. On our water bill, there's a breakdown of water and sewer. [2:29:18, 2:29:19]: Correct. [2:29:20, 2:29:21]: Yes it is. [2:29:22, 2:29:26]: I'm thinking the the concern here is [2:29:27, 2:29:28]: If a citizen [2:29:28, 2:29:30]: has a septic tank. [2:29:31, 2:29:32]: Why are they paying [2:29:33, 2:29:36]: a sewage fee. Now I I I'm thinking this is [2:29:36, 2:29:43]: Mayor Pro Tem, this is where I may be wrong. See, it's not about an exemption, it's not about this, it's not about that. [2:29:44, 2:29:45]: It's about [2:29:46, 2:29:47]: If you're in [2:29:48, 2:29:49]: If you have a septic tank. [2:29:50, 2:29:52]: Why are you paying a fee? [2:29:53, 2:30:01]: for sew you know, you you pay for water, but the way it's broken down at the city is water and sewage. [2:30:02, 2:30:20]: So if you're on accepted tank, why are you paying the sewer part of it? And I think that's the I think that's the issue. I don't think it's about the exemption. I think it's about the fee that you're paying for sewer. So here's the explanation. I this has occurred in several municipalities where I work. [2:30:21, 2:30:26]: Is when sewer lines got extended some to some areas that had septic tanks. [2:30:27, 2:30:30]: Those residents did not sign up for. [2:30:30, 2:30:50]: And so cities pass ordinances to encourage residents to connect to sewer because the state's goal is to get residents off septic tanks. And so the ordinances require whether you're connected to it or not, you pay a sewer fee because you're in proximity to connect to the sewer system. And also [2:30:50, 2:31:10]: So when you apply for CDBG grants. When I work for the City of Perry, we applied for CDBG grants. That was part of the grant requirement, is that you charge those people that had access to sewer but chose not to connect. They paid the sewer fee. So that was a way of encouraging them to get off septic tanks because [2:31:10, 2:31:29]: People that have septic tanks right now, if they septic tank fail, they're in proximity to a sewer line, the health department is not going to issue you a permit to repair it. So that's probably in the city ordinance, I'd have to research it, that requires people, even though they're not connected to the sewer system, they pay a fee because it's in close proximity. [2:31:30, 2:31:31]: of their property. [2:31:31, 2:31:51]: And and that is because uh the government the the statewide for health reasons they really want to encourage everyone to get off of septic. And get on centralized sources. Okay. And and especially in metro areas, urban areas more so I mean I think uh I could you know, in the rural areas sometimes it's [2:31:51, 2:32:10]: I'd I'd r not to research the uh sewer ordinances and all the things like that, but I'm pretty sure you probab the city of Stockbridge like other city has a ordinance that requires So that the m I think t m for me a solution would be [2:32:10, 2:32:11]: You know [2:32:11, 2:32:12]: Maybe they should advocate. [2:32:13, 2:32:16]: Towards that they want to advocate in a county or whomever. [2:32:16, 2:32:20]: That they should they deserve a roll back because they're not using sewer but [2:32:22, 2:32:30]: This is not the place for it. It's not a tax exemption place hold. And unless someone can find one. [2:32:31, 2:32:34]: Throughout the United States and local, I haven't seen anything. [2:32:35, 2:32:38]: And that's you know, I I understand. [2:32:39, 2:32:43]: I totally understand what Councilwoman Barber is s stating. [2:32:43, 2:32:50]: And you know, out of concern, but this is not a tax. [2:32:51, 2:32:55]: And so I don't agree with actually giving a tax exemption for it. [2:32:56, 2:33:16]: But the majority of folks, like I say, that are pay if they're paying that sewage fee and they have a septic tank, it's because they're in close proximity. They can connect to the sewer line, but they ch choose not to. Versus an individual that's in an area where sewer is not available and they don't have no choice but septic tank, but they're getting maybe [2:33:15, 2:33:20]: [9200.5, 9207.0]: I got'cause like our admin assistant, she lives in the county, she has county water, but she's on a septic tank, so [2:33:27, 2:33:45]: Right. And so they can but they chose not to connect. Is that what you're saying? She's on the step the same cause sewer is not available in her neighborhood, but she does have county water. Right. And if it's not available, maybe they should advocate to get a rollback from not being available if they're having to pay for it. I don't know. Maybe it's already in the bill and it's already been considered. [2:33:46, 2:33:48]: But if it's available and that's [2:33:49, 2:33:51]: For the health, safety and welfare of [2:33:52, 2:33:55]: the community, then by all means [2:33:56, 2:34:02]: I'm not giving you a I'm not I don't feel like I should be giving you an exemption for that. [2:34:02, 2:34:12]: Ms. Barber, go ahead please. Yes. Um so I believe the Cav County uh does have or offer tax exemptions for homeowners who are on septic. [2:34:12, 2:34:15]: So it should be really easy for staff to do the research on that. [2:34:16, 2:34:30]: Secondly, I believe the city attorneys did provide, or was it Mr. Wall, did provide to the council a statement suggesting that the council can implement whatever tax or exemption that we wanted to. [2:34:31, 2:34:32]: This is one of them. [2:34:33, 2:34:38]: Considering the fact that City Council District Four was drawn without any input. [2:34:38, 2:34:38]: From me. [2:34:39, 2:34:45]: I represent those residents and the majority of the residents who are in septic systems. [2:34:46, 2:34:47]: I'm responsible for him. [2:34:47, 2:34:51]: Since you all drew my district without me, I'm going to continue advocating. [2:34:52, 2:34:56]: For the needs and desires of those homeowners who are in the area. [2:34:56, 2:34:58]: I can't force them. [2:34:58, 2:34:59]: To connect. [2:34:59, 2:35:01]: To our city's sewer system. [2:35:02, 2:35:02]: I cannot. [2:35:03, 2:35:04]: But currently they're on septic. [2:35:05, 2:35:08]: So we need to be offering a tax exemption. [2:35:09, 2:35:11]: I've been saying the same thing. [2:35:11, 2:35:12]: All year. [2:35:13, 2:35:16]: So I'm asking my councilmates to honor. [2:35:17, 2:35:19]: Honor the request I made. [2:35:19, 2:35:22]: When we began discussing [2:35:22, 2:35:24]: Adopting the military. [2:35:24, 2:35:25]: I was real clear. [2:35:26, 2:35:33]: I was very clear when I said that I would not approve a new tax unless we approved [2:35:33, 2:35:39]: adopting a tax exemption for those homeowners who are in septic systems. [2:35:39, 2:35:40]: We're talking about septic. [2:35:41, 2:35:42]: Tanks. [2:35:42, 2:35:43]: So [2:35:43, 2:35:46]: Um I support all the other tax exemptions on here too. [2:35:47, 2:35:52]: But I absolutely support not charging homeowners who are on septic systems a fee. [2:35:55, 2:35:56]: Because you're not using. [2:35:57, 2:35:59]: Or infrastructure. Oh cool. That's all. [2:36:00, 2:36:06]: Go ahead, Mr. So they these folks were originally in the county. Were they already paying the fee in the to the county? [2:36:09, 2:36:20]: Some of them were the some of the people in in the city were all were not who are in the city now or on Henry County water, were they already paying the fee? [2:36:20, 2:36:31]: I can't speak for them. Only thing I I'm sure of there are some in the city of Stockbridge that are within a close proximity to a sewer line. [2:36:31, 2:36:51]: that was installed after, you know, their home was built and they chose to stay on their septic tank instead of paying the the connection fee to connect to the city of Stockbridge sewer system. So the city probably passed the ordinance that we're gonna charge you sewer rates, whether you connect or not. [2:36:51, 2:37:01]: But that's our way of egging you to connect to the sewer system and abandon the state. How many total residents are we talking about? Four hundred and seven. [2:37:01, 2:37:05]: So the majority How much money are we talking about? [2:37:06, 2:37:09]: We might not even be worth the time. How much money are we talking about? [2:37:10, 2:37:11]: So [2:37:12, 2:37:32]: And four hundred and thirty-seven people, it can't be that much money, I mean, right, is it? So but then you have to go through the process you with the health department to verify which ones are actually on septic tanks. Then when people abandon their septic tanks, they're gonna have to come back to the city and say, Well, I'm no longer on a septic tank, I'm on county sewer or something like that. [2:37:32, 2:37:36]: like that. How do you police that aspect of it? [2:37:36, 2:37:56]: Well we we can continue the discussion. We're not gonna make a decision tonight, but if it's eight thousand dollars, I mean that's not a lot of money for us to be sitting here. We're talking overnight about what's going on. So again, it's not a great deal. We're talking about the difference between four hundred thousand and then the original poll, which was two hundred thousand. That two hundred thousand makes [2:37:56, 2:38:16]: It's much less likely for us to have to uh make a mileage adjustment. So I'm in favor of the two hundred thousand dollar reduction, which is an additional reduction. We already set the tax millage rate at the minimum amount at 3.77, and we're gonna give residents additional money off with uh these homestead exemptions, which the [2:38:16, 2:38:22]: lower the millage rate to less than three point seven seven, which is good news. But we cannot give away something [2:38:23, 2:38:27]: That's gonna put us in a position to put a hole in the budget two years from now. [2:38:28, 2:38:47]: So Mr. Gardner, on that, uh you mentioned earlier in the conversation about coming back. That's the case. It will the council seem like that's the case. You're gonna come back with some adjustments based on a previous presentation you, Mr. Wall, made to us roughly a month ago, something like that, right? All right. So if that's the case, if no uh council comments on this issue, we'll move on. [2:38:48, 2:39:03]: And and actually we're gonna move on to the what we added to the agenda, which is consideration uh consider transfer of of parcel uh zero three two zero one zero dash three zero zero one five to the citywide development authority. Mr. Gardner, this is on you, sir. [2:39:04, 2:39:05]: Uh yes sir. Um [2:39:06, 2:39:26]: As you know, we we discussed the transfer of certain properties. Uh earlier a few months ago I brought to you guys the potential that we had for a parcel on Nord Park Trail, interest by an a hotel entity. Um and we've obviously sat down, brought on the IGA, which um was re [2:39:26, 2:39:34]: Redlined and I think we made the adjustments and approved the IGA. Um, what's lacking now is the transfer of the property from [2:39:35, 2:39:41]: the city to the development authority. The one thing we heard this um this morning in our meeting was [2:39:41, 2:39:45]: uh the deal with that hotel. [2:39:45, 2:39:46]: Hotel or [2:39:47, 2:40:07]: doesn't happen until the the developer is actually has the property in hand. They need to before they can actually consummate the deal with that person out there. So let's say and I don't want to give out as much as I get here, but let's say um IG IHG. [2:40:07, 2:40:08]: The Hilton Group. [2:40:09, 2:40:14]: Right. You are you are a franchisee of their hotel, a true hotel. [2:40:14, 2:40:22]: They won't complete that franchise agreement until you actually own the property because they don't want to be doing business with another entity. [2:40:23, 2:40:27]: whilst giving this person the opportunity to franchise. So in order for that franchise agreement [2:40:27, 2:40:31]: To consummate itself, you that franchise has to have the property. [2:40:32, 2:40:32]: In Han. [2:40:33, 2:40:34]: And and so [2:40:35, 2:40:36]: No. [2:40:37, 2:40:40]: That's what we were told this morning. Uh I get it. [2:40:41, 2:40:42]: Let's be clear. [2:40:43, 2:40:58]: They're an entity branch from us. So they're they're very aware who owns the property and know the transaction's gonna take place. I have no problem voting for it tonight, but I don't want them coming to me with that. No, no, I no, I'm just saying In the future I don't want anyone coming to me with that. Yes, ma'am. [2:41:00, 2:41:00]: Right. [2:41:01, 2:41:03]: Any of the comments uh for Mr. Gardner? [2:41:05, 2:41:08]: R in reference to the tax homestead exemption. [2:41:08, 2:41:25]: No no, no, no, ma'am. I'm sorry. In reference to what he's talking about right now. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I'd like to make a motion to approve um transferring the parcel number that you mentioned. I I don't have all the numbers. Zero three Zero three two dash zero one zero dash three zero zero one five. [2:41:25, 2:41:30]: I'd like to make a motion to transfer that to the development authority. All right. Is there a second motion? [2:41:32, 2:41:47]: Real quick. So we put all the things in there that you had asked for with the callbacks and all of that and the time frame. Yes, two years. So we don't end up with a one thirty eight situation. Yes, two years, exactly. And and turned everything to mate instead of shell. [2:41:47, 2:41:51]: Second. Okay. Motion been made in second. All in favor of the motion please indicate. [2:41:52, 2:41:55]: All pose? Abstain? [2:41:56, 2:41:57]: Miss Barber, your vote what's your vote? [2:41:57, 2:41:58]: I have staying. [2:41:58, 2:41:59]: You oh you're staying. [2:42:00, 2:42:03]: Three zero one motion pass. Thank you. Okay. [2:42:03, 2:42:23]: On that note, announcements of upcoming meetings and events. Upcoming meetings and announcements, council meeting will be held in the council change. City Council Chamber meeting meeting dates, locations, and times are subject to change. We'll contact City Hall offices at 770-389-7900 for updates. The planning commission meeting is 6:30 p.m. City [2:42:23, 2:42:43]: Council Chamber fourth Thursday of each month. The Stockbridge Citizens Police Academy Advisory Meeting first Thursday of each month at 6 p.m. in the Stockbridge Police Community Room at 4545 North Henry Boulevard, December 7th. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month. Welcome center located at 130 ML. [2:42:43, 2:42:47]: King Senior Heritage Trail, nine AM december eighth. [2:42:48, 2:43:08]: City Council meeting the second Monday of each month at 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, December 11th. Adoption of the proposed FY 2024 operating budget public hearing, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, December 11th. Uh Council meeting, 6:30 p.m., second Monday of each month, City Hall Levi Meeting Room, December. [2:43:08, 2:43:28]: December 11th. The Citywide Development Authority meeting second Tuesday of each month at 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room December 12th. The Downtown Development Authority meeting third Tuesday of each month. Welcome Center 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail December 19th. The Youth Advisory, excuse me, Youth Council Advisory Committee. [2:43:28, 2:43:44]: Committee meeting 6 30 p.m. third Tuesday of each month in the Levi Meeting Room City Hall December nineteenth. City Council Work Session Meeting last Tuesday of each month at 6 p.m. Council Hall Council Hall Chambers December 19th. [2:43:44, 2:43:52]: upcoming uh city events and initiatives. Uh we'll stand by one second here. [2:43:57, 2:43:59]: Okay, I did that right. All right. [2:44:01, 2:44:21]: Councilman Thomas wants the community to be saved during the holiday season and we'll be distributing free smoke detectors to the community on Tuesday, December 5th. Location to be announced. Stay tuned for more information. Join Mayor Ford on the monthly Meet the Mayor on Monday, December 18th, 10 a.m. to noon. Please contact Roz on Raw's to schedule an appointment at [2:44:21, 2:44:41]: 678-833-3348 or by email at R. Rawls at city of Stockbridge-GA dot G-O-V. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative centered around educational highlights, highlighting the causes and effects of littering and legal illegal dumping. More information to follow on this [2:44:41, 2:45:01]: as well. And once again, Councilman Thomas in honoring the veterans of continued salute to all year long. Send uh please send your pictures of veterans and their name, branch, branch, rank, and years of service to R. Rawls and C Stockbridge-G A dot G-O-V. And for my comments this evening, first of all, COVID-19 is still out there. [2:45:01, 2:45:21]: So we want you to be healthy citizens. So get your boost a shot if you can. Flu shots also would be helpful to be uh be healthy for the entire winter season, this aspect. And condolences and prayers and and um to the Carter family in reference to the passing of First Lady, uh Rosalind Carter here recently. And [2:45:21, 2:45:41]: And to President Carter and um which the third night president of our country, to his uh his health and and to the entire family, and uh and praising the passing of of a of a a great humanitarian in Rosalind Carter. Uh so uh continue to keep that family in your prayers, please. Early voting is actually going to be a good thing. [2:45:41, 2:46:01]: Going on right now for the District 2 Commissioner. Um, early voting going on right now at Merlmanis Conference Center if you're in that particular district, Commissioner District 2. And of course, the actual voting date for the runoff election is December 5th for that as well. Um, congratulations to the Falcons to uh taking uh big [2:46:01, 2:46:21]: beaten up on and taking a win this weekend with the Saints, their rival. And uh so there's still another game with and to happen again later on in the year. So we'll see what happens here in that aspect. And hopefully everybody had a great Thanksgiving holiday with family and friends in this aspect as well. And of course if you're um if you're a great football college fan this Saturday you have Georgia [2:46:21, 2:46:41]: versus Alabama and the SEC Championship in downtown Atlanta. So that should be another good game. So do I dare say uh row tide? Yeah, check it out. And and this past Saturday as this past Saturday, Lighthouse Junior Choir along with the Lighthouse [2:46:40, 2:47:00]: House Dancers had an outstanding piece concert at a Merle Manders Conference Center. Outstanding event. Uh thanks to representatives Angela Moore and El Mati Holly for bringing that to us. And uh hopefully this will be an activity that uh we'll have in our Stockbridge community e uh for many, many years to come. And uh Councilman Alexander and [2:47:00, 2:47:16]: Councilman Thomas uh joined me for that wonderful activity this past Saturday. So thank you gentlemen for that. I think I think you enjoyed yourselves uh that that day. Uh let's see what else do we have here. Uh I'm sorry, what's the correction? I have a correction. Yes, sir. Go ahead. [2:47:16, 2:47:21]: The smoke detector giveaway uh initially we [2:47:22, 2:47:23]: At the fifth [2:47:24, 2:47:28]: We changed it to this Saturday the second. [2:47:28, 2:47:48]: But now the weather projection is rain seventy percent. So we may have to go back. So uh I would say standby for the correct date uh for that and and and Mayor if you would uh would you speak [2:47:48, 2:47:51]: speak to the um Christmas [2:47:51, 2:47:58]: Yeah, Christmas gala, which is on this coming Friday. Which is um seventy percent Friday and Saturday. [2:47:58, 2:48:14]: Seventy percent rain. Yes, and there's some consideration, some discussion. I don't know if you had that discussion with maybe um but this Yes, sir. Uh actually maybe a cancellation. [2:48:14, 2:48:34]: Yeah, we've had some discussion of what we may want to do on that for that city sponsored event, which is outdoors at the amphitheater, which is this coming Friday, um for that. Uh so that is something that uh we'll announce that now, obviously. It is still scheduled to occur, but it may be some adjustments on that and the and the city manager. [2:48:34, 2:48:50]: gonna take the lead on that working out with the event staff and let everybody know. Okay? On uh in reference to whether or not we can have that or not. Well I don't know how you can you know I don't know. We'll have to figure that one out. But he's got the he's got the lead on that. He acknowledges that fact right now. He has the lead. Okay. [2:48:52, 2:48:52]: Is that right? [2:48:55, 2:49:00]: Okay, well that's food for thought. He'll he he's gotta work that out with the staff and let us know. And on that note [2:49:00, 2:49:15]: On that note, it's all the comments I had. And my understanding is that we don't have any executive session notes. So if that's the note, if that's the case, no executive session, I need a motion to end our council work session. So moved. Is there a second? I second. All in favor, please indicate. [2:49:15, 2:49:16]: We have now.

--- title: Planning Commission date: 2023-11-16 source: 2023-11-16_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: Uh Miss Logan. [0:00:03, 0:00:11]: Could you uh provide the uh the commission action vote on thirteen? [0:00:12, 0:00:15]: And incorporate that into the minutes. [0:00:15, 0:00:15]: Okay. [0:00:17, 0:00:26]: have to check our notes or let's or watch the video Yeah, I'm I recognize you don't have'em here with you now, but I'm just saying that should be a part of the record. Okay. Yes, sir. [0:00:27, 0:00:28]: Any other changes or amendments? [0:00:31, 0:00:35]: Hearing um get a motion to adopt it as amended. [0:00:35, 0:00:46]: Mr. Chairman, this is Stan Dumas. I move that the amendments, the adjusted minutes or the corrected amendments be adopted with auto corrections included. [0:00:47, 0:01:07]: We have uh second. A second. Errol. Been second by Harold Tibet. Motion be presented by Stanley Doomer. Second by uh Harold Thibodeau. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Those opposed, hearing none, the ayes have it. The amendments are of September twenty-eighth are adopted. [0:01:07, 0:01:07]: Yeah. [0:01:09, 0:01:10]: As amended. [0:01:22, 0:01:25]: Next item is uh item seven. [0:01:26, 0:01:42]: Amendment to the bylaws for the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission. Consideration of an amendment to section three point two regular meetings of the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission. Bowlaws to schedule meetings for the third Thursday of each month rather than the fourth. [0:01:52, 0:01:53]: It um [0:01:55, 0:01:56]: Staff comment on that. [0:02:01, 0:02:20]: Yes, um we need to make these changes in anticipation of some new mandated requirements handed down by the state of Georgia. Um Georgia's zoning procedures law. So we'll be making um some updates, some text amendments to our zoning ordinance to reflect the state of Georgia's uh changes. [0:02:20, 0:02:25]: And um that requires us to um modify our meeting date. [0:02:25, 0:02:27]: From the fourth Thursday to the third Thursday. [0:02:28, 0:02:29]: Okay. [0:02:34, 0:02:39]: Like to add also that that having a extra week. [0:02:39, 0:02:40]: Excuse me. [0:02:42, 0:02:58]: I'd like to add that that extra week in between planning commission and city council meetings um be very helpful because a lot of times applicants need that time to revise their site plans or meet with the community, for example, so that allows those things to happen. [0:03:00, 0:03:01]: Okay. [0:03:02, 0:03:06]: May I have a motion to adopt the bylaws as amended. [0:03:06, 0:03:15]: Mr Chairman, this is Stan Dumas. I move approval of the amendment for to the bylaws with the CF Stockbridge Planning Commission. [0:03:16, 0:03:17]: [197.8, 208.8]: A second, Harold. Pardon me? You said something I was just gonna specify that's moving from the fourth Thursday to the third Thursday. Okay. In each month. [0:03:30, 0:03:33]: Yes, incorporated in Ballo. Mr. Thibodeau, a second [0:03:34, 0:03:36]: Yeah, I was second it. Harrow, Thibodeau. [0:03:37, 0:03:50]: Been moved and seconded. All those in favor let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Those opposed? Hearing none, the ayes have it. Uh the amendment to the bylaws for the city of Stockbridge Planning Commission is adopted as expressed therein. [0:03:52, 0:03:58]: Uh moving on. Number eight, adoption of the uh twenty twenty four planning and zoning schedule. [0:03:59, 0:04:15]: Uh consideration of the adoption of the twenty twenty four planning and zoning schedule, which incorporates a schedule change to allow planning commission meetings to be held on the third rather than the fourth Thursday of each month. Uh during twenty twenty-four of these this schedule. [0:04:15, 0:04:25]: uh may only be adopted by this schedule may only be adopted if the bylaws changed above are if the bylaws changed above are approved. [0:04:26, 0:04:37]: Um staff you got any comment, I think we've already uh addressed it but Yes, we we've already discussed it previously during the last item, so we can just vote. [0:04:37, 0:04:57]: All right. So uh based on the amendment and uh item four the schedule, uh the meetings for twenty twenty-four will occur on the third Thursday of each month during twenty twenty-four. Uh approve the adoption of the twenty [0:04:57, 0:05:05]: Mr. Chairman, motion to adopt uh the 2024 Planning and Zoning Commission schedule. [0:05:06, 0:05:21]: David Planchett seconds. So that's Mr. Williams, who made the motion. Mr. Planchet seconded. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Those opposed, hearing none, the ayes have it. Uh the adoption of the uh planning and donning schedule is approved. [0:05:22, 0:05:31]: The next item, item number nine, is annexation case, number AX 2023 04 to be [0:05:32, 0:05:36]: To be located in s in council district five. Hm. [0:05:36, 0:05:45]: Consideration of a request for the annexation of property at twenty-two fifty to twenty-two oh six Dodico Road located in unincorporated Henry County. [0:05:45, 0:05:49]: into stock into Stockbridge city limits to allow [0:05:49, 0:05:54]: For the construction of a mixed use development, the applicant is marketplace storefronts L L C [0:05:55, 0:05:56]: Property contains two parcels. [0:05:57, 0:06:05]: As are listed below in in land lot seventy-eight of district six with twenty point four oh eight plus or minus total acres. [0:06:07, 0:06:15]: Twenty twenty-two twenty twenty-two fifty Dodico Road parcel number, zero five three-zero one zero one. [0:06:15, 0:06:32]: 7005 contains twenty point one three eight plus or minus acres within three tracks, twenty-two oh six Jody Cole Road, parcel number zero five three zero one zero one seven thousand contains point two seven plus or minus acres. [0:06:34, 0:06:36]: Uh to be sent by the staff. [0:06:44, 0:06:50]: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um I'll be presenting the case for the annexation twenty twenty three dash zero four. [0:06:54, 0:07:14]: Uh the project information, the applicant is Markers Marketplace Storefronts, and there are the owners as well. And the applicant's request is to annex twenty-two five zero and twenty two oh six Jodico Road, uh located unincorporated Herring County into the Stockbridge city limits. The number of acres is twenty point four zero. [0:07:14, 0:07:25]: The current use is vacant and heavily wooded. Currently the county uh zoning is mixed use and the land use destination is also mixed use as well. [0:07:28, 0:07:41]: This is the aerial foot of the property. This is 2250 Jodico Road. And this small parcel is 2206 Jodico Road. And below is the Argento and the Bridge Bridges of Jodico and the Bridges of Judah mixed use development. [0:07:45, 0:08:04]: The adjacent properties zoning properties to the north is C two. Uh properties to the south is PUD, which is this bridges of Jodico. Uh properties to the east is I seventy five. And uh properties to the west is is a retail is mostly C three and C two, and that's Henry County. [0:08:07, 0:08:18]: This is the joint zoning map of the property. Uh the Henry County is as mentioned, mixed use. And below is the bridges of Jellico, which is fert to the south. [0:08:24, 0:08:44]: The surrounding future land use designations, the properties to the north is mixed use. The property to the south, which is the British Jolico, is high density mixed use. Uh the properties is to the east is I seventy five. And the properties to the west is the UHAL neighborhood dealer and the Emerson Village, which is the retail shopping center, and it's mostly mixed use. [0:08:46, 0:08:55]: And this is the joint future land use map of the property. That's mixed use. And the city land use designation is high density mixed use. [0:08:59, 0:09:19]: The project information the applicant proposes to build a mixed-use development, 320 multifamily units with 600 parking spaces that will be provided to the residents. It will include a 30 foot thousand square foot retail shopping center with 189 parking spaces that will be provided. It will include a dog walk, an amenity center, a minute car wash, and a 10-foot sidewalk. [0:09:21, 0:09:25]: This is the site plan that the applicant has provided to us. [0:09:31, 0:09:35]: This is a renderance of the uh of how the apartments are gonna look. [0:09:39, 0:09:41]: Along with the commercial. [0:09:45, 0:09:58]: And this is the staff analysis from section nine point eight of the Unified Development Code. The key points to highlight is are that this is contiguous with the bridges of Jodico. [0:09:59, 0:10:05]: Um they used the one hundred percent annexation method and the [0:10:09, 0:10:23]: And it will also it will provide economic growth to the surrounding area and it will also provide job opportunities to the residents in the vicinity air area. And the subject property is physically capable of being developed. [0:10:26, 0:10:30]: And these are the rest of the uh rezoning cr I mean the annexation criteria? [0:10:37, 0:10:39]: And the staff recommends approval. [0:10:46, 0:10:47]: That's it. [0:11:01, 0:11:01]: Three questions? [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: Any questions from the commission? [0:11:10, 0:11:11]: No questions? [0:11:13, 0:11:15]: I have a motion to approve. [0:11:16, 0:11:19]: You have to hop up to a public hearing. [0:11:22, 0:11:23]: Who's the applicant? [0:11:24, 0:11:31]: The applicants here. Oh okay. Yeah, anybody opposed for? [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: Yeah, I didn't think anybody was in. [0:11:38, 0:11:39]: Okay. [0:11:39, 0:11:45]: Hi. Good evening. My name is um Kathy Watts Jones. My address is four [0:11:45, 0:11:48]: two five zero five Palmer Park Court, Duluth, Georgia. [0:11:49, 0:11:53]: And I am uh vice president CFO of Marketplace Storefront LLC. [0:11:53, 0:11:56]: Um we built uh [0:11:56, 0:12:00]: А вокруг подавело билдер. Вибил символ пролет дано. [0:12:00, 0:12:09]: Get closer to the mics. Okay. We've built similar products down on Joan uh Jonesboro Road. Uh we also we do retail. Uh we develop uh [0:12:10, 0:12:17]: Self-storage and uh apartments. This is going to be a high-end development, luxury apartments, along with [0:12:17, 0:12:20]: commercial retail. We are planning a [0:12:20, 0:12:25]: uh on the on the west side of the future northwest parallel we're planning uh [0:12:26, 0:12:27]: А ритайл шопін центр ви. [0:12:28, 0:12:29]: uh rooftop dining. [0:12:30, 0:12:31]: uh to bring [0:12:31, 0:12:38]: uh a class E development to Stockbridge. We approach Stockbridge with our with our project. We we [0:12:39, 0:12:42]: Uh h have been following Stockbridge for a long time. I have a [0:12:43, 0:12:45]: a a a land use map that [0:12:46, 0:12:54]: Pinpointed our property to be a future annexation for Stockbridge. And we thought before we get started on this project, it's the best time to move forward. [0:12:55, 0:13:09]: Uh so we approach Stockbridge to bring our our um project to the city. We like the synergy of the city, the things that are going on here, the growth. Uh we and we feel like our product would be a great asset to the city of Stockbridge. [0:13:10, 0:13:27]: I would like to um show you a brief video of our project, our residential project that we have currently down on Jonesboro Road, so you can see uh exactly the luxury resort style uh development we're looking to bring to the city of Stockbridge. [0:15:40, 0:16:00]: So all of our uh developments are high-end developments. We use granite countertops, the uh heart uh LVL flooring throughout the all the facilities, walk-in, um we have walk-in closets for all the bedrooms. Um we we look to bring luxury. Uh there's nothing like our product in [0:15:59, 0:16:09]: In the south we have the four story interior corridor, so access is always through the interior of the building, and also we have elevators throughout. [0:16:12, 0:16:20]: Mr. Chairman, I have a question. So go ahead. Um since these are apartments, uh what are your anticipated lease rates for the apartments? [0:16:21, 0:16:40]: These um these are luxury apartments. The one bedrooms, uh the smallest one bedroom we have is six hundred and eighty-four square feet and the three bedrooms are up to seventeen hundred plus square footage and they s typically uh begin around twelve hundred dollars per month. The three bedrooms are over three thousand dollars a month. [0:16:42, 0:16:56]: Also, um are you gonna have any minimum uh lease requirements built into your leases? We do and we scrutinize all our leases, our our our potential um [0:16:56, 0:16:57]: Uh [0:16:57, 0:17:14]: Cont our potential uh homeowners, we scrutinize them very strictly on the front end. There is a lot of fraud going on now with people trying to get into apartments and squatters, but we we do have the credit checks, background checks uh for all of our tenants. [0:17:14, 0:17:22]: So you're gonna have m annual rate annual leases more than month to month or something like that? Correct. We do not do month to month leases. [0:17:26, 0:17:28]: Mr. Thibodeau, go ahead. [0:17:29, 0:17:36]: W what type of security uh setup do uh do we have at those uh complex? Uh uh is is it gonna be gated? [0:17:36, 0:17:48]: It is all all of the the residential portion is gated with key access throughout. Uh one good thing about our apartments they ha they have three deadbolt locks on'em. So you have [0:17:48, 0:17:59]: uh a a dead boat lock that you can get in from the outside and there's two l deadboat locks on the inside, one which is not accessible from the outside on all of the exterior doors. [0:17:59, 0:18:03]: And we currently we have uh a security officer that [0:18:04, 0:18:12]: uh leases and stays on the property at this site and for a reduced rent to uh patrol, you know, doing his off duty hours. [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: Thank you. [0:18:21, 0:18:23]: Yeah, the comments, questions? [0:18:26, 0:18:30]: Well the kids that we have no opposition. [0:18:31, 0:18:33]: to uh go out and pigeon. So uh [0:18:35, 0:18:38]: This would close about the comment. Thank you. [0:18:41, 0:18:45]: That was a staff report. We still need to open it up for public. [0:18:46, 0:18:47]: But [0:18:47, 0:18:50]: Don't must work. [0:19:00, 0:19:01]: Well, we comment. [0:19:07, 0:19:10]: Hearing uh public comments closed. [0:19:12, 0:19:15]: have a motion on this application. [0:19:17, 0:19:26]: Mr. Chairman, I motion that we approve the annex case annexation case uh AX twenty twenty three dash oh four. [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: Second. [0:19:29, 0:19:31]: And we'll bad. [0:19:32, 0:19:48]: Mr. Williams is second by uh Mr. Dumas. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. Those opposed? Hearing none, the ayes have it. The uh annexation case is approved. [0:19:49, 0:19:50]: Item ten. [0:19:58, 0:20:10]: District Council 5, consideration of a request to assign the future land use designation of high-density mixed use to property at 22,000. [0:20:18, 0:20:20]: Mixed in the development of the apple. [0:20:30, 0:20:35]: One four hundred and eight plus or minus twelve eight. [0:20:36, 0:20:56]: Uh 2250 Jodie Code Road, parcel number 05301017005 contains 20.138 plus or minus 50 within three tracks. 2206 Jodie Code Road parcel number 0530101 7000 contains 0.0 [0:20:56, 0:20:58]: two seventh less than minus eight fifths. [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: Here from uh [0:21:12, 0:21:15]: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, as mentioned [0:21:18, 0:21:23]: This is the presentation for the comp plan for CP twenty three three dash zero five. [0:21:28, 0:21:45]: Uh the case facts, the applicant's request is to assign the future land use designation of high dense mixed high density mixed use to allow for a mixed use development. Uh the number of acres, as mentioned earlier, is twenty point four zero eight and the county land use designation is mixed use. [0:21:48, 0:21:58]: Uh this is the aerial photo of the property, twenty two fifty Jodeco Road and the small parcel twenty two oh six Jodeco Road. And this is the Argentis and the bridges of Jodeco. [0:22:00, 0:22:10]: Uh the updated comprehensive plan. Um this is the information about the high density mix use. And it's important to note that the PUD is compatible in all of the zoning districts. [0:22:16, 0:22:30]: This is the joint zoning map of the area. As you can see it's mixed um mix used, Henry County, and then you have C two, C three, C one, and we also have the city um bridges of Jodico, which is zone P U D. [0:22:33, 0:22:43]: And this is the joint future land use map, which Henry County is uh mixed use and mixed use and uh medium density and the city is high density mixed use. [0:22:45, 0:22:58]: The surrounding land use destination, the properties to the north is mixed use, to the south, which is the British of Jellico, high density mixed use, and to the west, you also have uh mixed use as well, which includes a retail shopping center and a U-Haul. [0:23:01, 0:23:21]: And we also did a surrounding land use density. Uh we we analyzed it, and based on what we have, the Argentos and the British Jodico, which is three hundred and six, is at twenty units per acre, whereas market storefronts um three hundred and twenty, which is sixteen units per acre. And therefore it is consistent with the [0:23:21, 0:23:24]: with the c um and the area, the density. [0:23:27, 0:23:46]: As mentioned, the uh project information, the applicant wants to put three hundred and twenty multifamily units with six hundred and twelve parking spaces, and they will include a thirty-foot thousand square foot retail software center with 189 parking spaces that will be provided, include a dog park, a many area, car wash, and a ten foot sidewalk. [0:23:50, 0:24:06]: The key points to highlight from the staff analysis is that the PUD is compatible with all the YAN use designations, including the high density mixed use, and is consistent with the policy goals that are current found in the comprehensive plan, which is found on page forty two and forty-four. [0:24:10, 0:24:15]: And it's also compatible with the bridges of Jodical Development. Um [0:24:16, 0:24:22]: And is also consistent with the surrounding densities that are found in the area as explained in the table. [0:24:24, 0:24:42]: And the last question regarding the current land use designation, maintaining the current land use designation, the existing mixed use development, um, bridges of Jodico, the retail shopping center, the subdivision, and the R Gento at the Bridges of Jok Jodico makes the area feasible to develop. [0:24:44, 0:24:46]: And staff recommends approval. [0:25:09, 0:25:15]: Um I don't know if I need to introduce myself again. Um I was just here to see if you had any questions. [0:25:16, 0:25:22]: I have to? Okay. My name is uh Kathy Watts Jones. My address is two five oh five Harmon Park Court. [0:25:23, 0:25:24]: Duluth, Georgia. [0:25:24, 0:25:26]: Uh County of Residence is Gwinnett. [0:25:26, 0:25:29]: And I'm vice president of marketplace storefronts. [0:25:33, 0:25:33]: Mm. [0:25:34, 0:25:37]: I've made my presentation. Do you have any questions for me? [0:25:42, 0:25:43]: Yeah, I have a question for you. [0:25:44, 0:25:46]: Yeah, the commercial testing plan, yeah. [0:25:47, 0:26:05]: Uh we're looking to put uh on the corner uh rooftop dining. Um that was one of the things that was requested uh when the property was originally uh zoned with the uh Henry County. And we're going to abide by all the zoning requirements that they already put in place for that project. [0:26:06, 0:26:10]: And so we're looking at some rooftop dinning, uh commercial uh [0:26:10, 0:26:18]: little small shops more than a big big uh big big body tenant. So we got thirty thousand square foot. So [0:26:19, 0:26:23]: more little sh small quaint shops that are walkable. Um [0:26:23, 0:26:31]: We tend to uh bring in local residents for our commercial developments. We've uh a lot of developments down in um [0:26:32, 0:26:38]: On Jonesboro Road, we w were one of the first ones to allow that brought juicy crab in and now they're [0:26:38, 0:26:50]: booming and they're and and that store in in in on McDonald Road is the number one store. We also take we take a lot of risks with our locals that come in, like the McDonald Fam fam [0:26:51, 0:26:54]: McDonald Center for family dyn dynasty when those two [0:26:54, 0:26:58]: Uh college graduates came in, we took a chance with them, and now they're booming. [0:26:58, 0:27:04]: uh their business has really grown. So we uh Lacasia Grill, we bring in people that are local. [0:27:05, 0:27:08]: that uh want to advance and invest in their community. [0:27:09, 0:27:13]: What does and the turnover rate in the units that you currently have already established? [0:27:14, 0:27:16]: uh for our res our retail [0:27:19, 0:27:27]: Um our apartments, uh the first one we did was uh Canyon Springs apartments and that is ninety-five percent leased. [0:27:27, 0:27:39]: Uh the one that we I just showed you the Somerset apartments, that one's only been open since April. And that one is uh thirty-seven percent least. Uh so they stay pretty full. And when it comes to our um [0:27:40, 0:27:45]: When it comes to our uh shopping centers, I think we've only lost [0:27:45, 0:27:48]: Two tenants since I've been involved since two thousand and seven. [0:27:51, 0:27:53]: Most of our tenants tend to stay. [0:27:53, 0:27:59]: Uh we had a couple of tenants that didn't make it, but we took a chance with them, even though they weren't national tenants. [0:28:00, 0:28:18]: How do you consider the uh commercial tenants? I mean do are you considering the commercial tenants so that you create a commercial port of a good testing pathway so people can look at some point at there, some point or entity there uh to attract other shoppers? [0:28:19, 0:28:29]: Uh yes, I it I mean, right across the street is the Costco. So we feel like that that's gonna be a nice corner for commercial uh uh businesses to come in, yeah. [0:28:30, 0:28:45]: All right. Mr. Chairman, I have a question. Mr. Donas. You mentioned the parallel highway that's being contemplated by Georgia DOT. That's gonna run right through your property. Is I re uh if I'm interpreting the maps correctly. [0:28:45, 0:28:46]: That is correct. [0:28:47, 0:28:55]: I'm wondering, uh do you anticipate starting construction and development before that road is built or after that road is built? [0:28:55, 0:29:14]: Well, uh we anticipate the on the uh on the retail side, which would be on the west side, we could possibly get in there before the road is built because we do have access off of Jodeco Road to go in and out of there. And we also anticipate doing some of our land development portion uh of the development. [0:29:14, 0:29:17]: while they are doing their development on the road as well. [0:29:18, 0:29:18]: Okay. [0:29:20, 0:29:21]: Thank you. Mm-hmm. [0:29:22, 0:29:23]: Any other questions? [0:29:26, 0:29:28]: Now open for public comment. [0:29:33, 0:29:36]: Those in support, those opposed. [0:29:38, 0:29:41]: Hearing none, the public comments is closed. [0:29:43, 0:29:44]: Have a motion. [0:29:46, 0:29:54]: Mr. Chairman, this is David Planchon. I would like to make a motion that we approve and adopt the comprehensive plan amendment. [0:29:55, 0:29:57]: CP two oh two three dash oh five. [0:29:58, 0:29:59]: A second. [0:29:59, 0:30:03]: Anthony Mitten seconds. Pardon me. Anthony Mitten seconds. [0:30:07, 0:30:14]: Aye. Those approved. Hearing none that the amendment is [0:30:16, 0:30:20]: Talk about case number C D twenty point three oh five. [0:30:21, 0:30:24]: Next case, this is our case number. [0:30:26, 0:30:31]: Relocated in Council District Five consideration of a request to assign zoning districts. [0:30:31, 0:30:39]: a PUD plan unit developments for parcels at 2250, 2206, Jodico Road, located in unincorporated Henry County. [0:30:40, 0:30:47]: If and after the parcels are annexed into Stock Creek City limits to allow for the construction of the mixed use development. [0:30:47, 0:31:00]: The applicant's marketplace store funds LLC the property contains two parcels as are listed below in land lot 78 of District 6 with 20.48 plus or minus acres. [0:31:01, 0:31:21]: 2250 Jodeco Road parcel 0530101705 contains 2438 plus or minus acres within three tracts. 2206 Jodeco Road parcel number 05301017000 contains 0.27 acres plus or minus. [0:31:22, 0:31:24]: Yeah, report. [0:31:25, 0:31:30]: Yes, thank you. Um this is the presentation for R Z twenty twenty three dash zero six. [0:31:32, 0:31:43]: As mentioned, the um the applicant's request is to assign the zoning district a PUD to allow for the purpose of developing a three hundred twenty multifamily unit development with a retail shopping center. [0:31:45, 0:32:03]: Um the zoning history. The property was rezoned from RA two hundred to C two back in nineteen sixty-seven. Um the review of the zoning files indicate that the portion of the property was rezoned to from C two Tam U on November twenty-ninth by the Herring County Board of Commissioners. [0:32:06, 0:32:10]: Um the aerial f this is the aerial photo of the property. [0:32:14, 0:32:26]: This is the site visit that we did on November first, twenty twenty three. Uh as you can see, this is the retail shopping center. This is the U-Haul neighborhood, and this is the parcel for 2250 Jodika Road. [0:32:29, 0:32:36]: And this is also the side visit that we also did um on that d same day. And this is for twenty two oh six Judica Road. [0:32:40, 0:32:50]: And as mentioned, as she said earlier, the this is the Costco. If you're looking from the different side of view, this is Costco. And around over here, this is where the uh Argento are the bridges of Jodeco as well. [0:32:54, 0:33:08]: This is the joint zoning map um of the uh 2250 Jellico Road and 2006. Um mix use, uh you have C three, C two, and you have the bridges of Jellico, which is PUD. [0:33:10, 0:33:20]: And this is the future land use map um that I showed earlier. Mixed use and the city land use designation for the bridges of Jolico is high density mixed use. [0:33:22, 0:33:42]: As mentioned, the uh project information, the applicant proposes to build a mixed-use development with 320 multifamily units with 600 parking spaces. And the mixed use development will include a 30-foot square foot retail shopping center with 189 parking spaces that will be provided. That will include a dog park. [0:33:42, 0:33:46]: Park, amenity area, and maintenance car wash in the ten foot sidewalk. [0:33:48, 0:34:03]: Um this is a side plan. As mentioned, she did on the side plan it does show the security gates as well and the uh club leasing on the mail kiosk and another security gate. This is the retail on the west side and they also have a ten foot sidewalk. [0:34:08, 0:34:11]: This is the rendering of the apartments as shown earlier. [0:34:15, 0:34:16]: Renderings of the commercial. [0:34:19, 0:34:22]: And this is the renderance of the commercial with the upscale dining. [0:34:25, 0:34:45]: The key the key points to highlight in the staff report are the first question, which is the consistency with the comp plan. Uh the it's not consistent with the city future land use map since it's located in uncorporate Henry County. However, once the property is annexed, it will be assigned a high density mixed use designation and is also compatible [0:34:45, 0:34:47]: With the other surrounding land uses. [0:34:52, 0:35:05]: Uh the second question, the relation with the uh proposed rezoning to the overall zoning scheme is consistent with the intent of both the PUD and the Stockbridge um unified development code. [0:35:10, 0:35:17]: The third question, which is the potential p positive effects of the rezoning amendment of the character of the proposed zoning district. [0:35:19, 0:35:20]: Uh the is [0:35:22, 0:35:30]: It will provide economic growth to the surrounding area, as mentioned earlier, and it will provide additional job opportunities to the residents. [0:35:35, 0:35:55]: And the last one is the potential impact of the resonant on the city infrastructure, including water sewer system. The water service is available to the subject property and the water extension is required at the developer's expense and that the sewer is available via a construction of the gravity line through the Western Parallel Connectors Sanitary. [0:35:55, 0:35:59]: Extension project which is currently on the design with no timetable. [0:36:01, 0:36:17]: And this is the western parallel connector with the uh roadway. As you can see, it cuts through the bridges of Judah mixed use development, and it also cuts through the uh proposed mixed use development. So this is twenty two fifty Judika Road and this is the twenty two oh six Jodika Road. [0:36:21, 0:36:23]: And this is the rest of the criteria. [0:36:31, 0:36:51]: And the one thing to mention with the bridges um with the Western Parallel Connector is that it will alleviate the traffic and it will provide access to the nearby residential areas and the businesses. And the staff recommends approval with conditions, which is that the density rate shall be capped at sixteen dwelling units per acre. Um [0:36:51, 0:37:09]: with a maximum of 320 units. Um the land disturbance cannot be issued until the gravity uh the construction of the gravity line along the Western parallel parallel connector sanitary extension project is completed, and that the project will be in conformance with the city of Stockbridge. [0:37:10, 0:37:16]: Unified Development Code and other city code sections regarding the site development standards and other requirements that are filed. [0:37:20, 0:37:21]: And that's it. [0:37:29, 0:37:30]: You're from Map. [0:37:41, 0:37:46]: Hello, my name is Kathy Watts Jones. I reside at two five zero five Harmon Park Court. [0:37:47, 0:37:48]: Duluth. [0:37:48, 0:37:51]: Georgia three zero zero nine seven in the county of Gwinnett. [0:37:52, 0:37:52]: Um [0:37:53, 0:37:56]: А лакертін де став серед ексепфер номер твою. [0:37:57, 0:38:03]: Uh, he has the land the disturbance permits may not be issued until the completion of the gravity line. [0:38:04, 0:38:05]: Um [0:38:06, 0:38:08]: We would like to be able to go in. [0:38:08, 0:38:10]: And uh [0:38:10, 0:38:13]: Start our project, some of the development portion of it. [0:38:14, 0:38:16]: while they are doing their work as well. [0:38:16, 0:38:18]: But other than that, everything looks [0:38:18, 0:38:20]: Good to me. That's that's okay. [0:38:21, 0:38:22]: That will work. Okay. [0:38:26, 0:38:28]: Anything else you'd like to add? [0:38:28, 0:38:29]: No. [0:38:31, 0:38:31]: All right. [0:38:33, 0:38:40]: Does the developer agree with uh the approval and can approve uh the conditions laid out? [0:38:40, 0:38:42]: Yeah, except for number two, yes. Okay. [0:38:44, 0:38:49]: I think uh the point that you were making that that could be a parallel uh uh [0:38:51, 0:38:55]: Project. Yes. That you can function along with them while they're doing that. Yes. [0:39:00, 0:39:01]: Any other questions? [0:39:04, 0:39:06]: All right, we open for public comment. [0:39:10, 0:39:11]: Although the [0:39:12, 0:39:13]: in support of it. [0:39:13, 0:39:15]: Approach to a podium. [0:39:17, 0:39:19]: All those polls approached the podium. [0:39:22, 0:39:24]: Hearing none, public comment is closed. [0:39:32, 0:39:34]: May I have a motion? [0:39:37, 0:39:45]: Mr. Chairman is standing with our move that the resonant case R Z twenty twenty-three-o six. [0:39:46, 0:39:51]: be approved as recommended by staff with the articulated conditions. [0:39:52, 0:39:57]: You have a second? I will second that. This is Dave Platch and I will second that. [0:39:58, 0:39:59]: It's been moved and second. [0:40:00, 0:40:13]: All those in favor let it be none by the sign of aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Hearing none, the ayes have it. Uh the rezoning case number RZ 2023-06 is approved. [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: Item twelve, project updates. [0:40:26, 0:40:27]: Mr. Lytton. [0:40:28, 0:40:28]: Good. [0:40:31, 0:40:32]: Project updates. [0:40:34, 0:40:36]: Brian, do you have any project updates? [0:40:37, 0:40:39]: No staff doesn't have any comments tonight. [0:40:40, 0:40:41]: No updates. [0:40:42, 0:40:45]: Staff comments. Uh no sir, no no comments either. [0:40:45, 0:40:47]: Board comments. [0:40:50, 0:40:51]: Board comments. [0:40:52, 0:41:00]: Mr. Chairman, I have one comment. Since this is our last meeting before the holidays, I would like to wish all of you a happy Thanksgiving. [0:41:02, 0:41:03]: Many blessings. [0:41:05, 0:41:07]: I wanna thank you for that, Mr. Dumas. Thank you, sir. [0:41:10, 0:41:12]: Uh the next item [0:41:14, 0:41:15]: There's a motion to adjourn. [0:41:17, 0:41:18]: Do I have a motion? [0:41:22, 0:41:24]: Anthony Mitten makes a motion to adjourn. [0:41:24, 0:41:25]: Get a second. [0:41:26, 0:41:27]: I second it, Harold. [0:41:27, 0:41:35]: Yeah, Al Tibetos seconds. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. Those opposed, as have it. [0:41:37, 0:41:40]: Planning commission is adjourned until the next meeting. [0:41:50, 0:41:55]: You spoke bigger than the tangol there when you join. [0:42:05, 0:42:08]: I don't know why we couldn't have just did all of them all at once. [0:42:10, 0:42:11]:

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2023-11-13 source: 2023-11-13_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:02]: And we'll start this in about four minutes. [0:00:03, 0:00:03]: Okay. [0:00:35, 0:00:37]: [ 55.0, 60.1]: Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. [0:02:31, 0:02:51]: There we go. Want to make sure this thing works, right? All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna get started with this. Um the four proclamations that uh I need to read today, and uh want to get started here shortly, and because we want to be timely when our council meeting was scheduled to start at six o'clock as well. So we'll start this off with uh world. [0:02:51, 0:03:05]: pancreatic pancreatic cancer day. All right. Uh let's see here. That's right there. Since you're standing on this side I'll stand over here then. Okay, no problem. You wanna come down this way as well? And uh okay. [0:03:05, 0:03:25]: Whereas World Pancreatic Cancer Day is November 16, 2023, and whereas pancreat pancreatic cancer has the highest mortality rate of all major cancers, whereas the five-year survival rate of pancreatic cancer is now twelve percent, an increase of one percent point one percent. [0:03:25, 0:03:35]: this point from last year. Whereas an estimated sixty four thousand five hundred excuse me, sixty four thousand fifty Americans will be diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. [0:03:35, 0:03:44]: Into uh twenty twenty-three, more people than ever before, approximately five fifty thousand five hundred and fifty Americans are expected to die from the disease this year. [0:03:44, 0:03:45]: That's a lot. [0:03:46, 0:03:51]: Whereas pancreatic cancer action network mission is to take bold action to improve the lives of everyone. [0:03:52, 0:04:00]: Impacted by pancreatic cancer by advancing scientific research, building community, sharing knowledge, and advocating for patients. [0:04:00, 0:04:08]: Whereas November is a month of empowerment, education, inspiration for communities far and wide who have been touched by can pancreatic cancer. [0:04:09, 0:04:29]: It is our opportunity to shine a light on this disease, to elevate our voices, to raise awareness, and to invite others to join us in the journey towards a cure. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, invested in me as the mayor of City of Startbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Akisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas, do [0:04:29, 0:04:49]: We hereby proclaim November as Pancreatic Awareness Month in the city of Stobbridge, and we encourage everyone to join the Pankanreatic Cancer Action Network webinar, Change the Course, Early Detection for Pancreatic Cancer, on November 16th. Please visit pancan.odorg for registration. [0:04:49, 0:05:01]: information. Whereas therefore I hereundo set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on thirteenth day of November, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty three. And I signed a proclamation along with our Clerk Vanessa holiday. [0:05:01, 0:05:08]: So I'm not sure if there's anybody here that's is here to receive this uh proclamation, but if not, we have it part of record. So we'll just take a picture. [0:08:04, 0:08:05]: [536.5, 537.2]: Yeah. [0:11:11, 0:11:12]: Yeah, [0:16:26, 0:16:28]: [1322.7, 1326.1]: Oh with that on Facebook. I'll I'll post up the link for it. [0:22:33, 0:22:34]: Oh she's uh [0:22:35, 0:22:37]: My boss is that is not gonna be on [0:22:38, 0:22:39]: But of course there is no there's no [0:22:41, 0:22:42]: Demetri just told me that. [0:22:51, 0:22:54]: That's difficult. [0:22:55, 0:22:58]: I get the point, I'm just saying I don't have enough control to put it on. [0:22:58, 0:23:00]: No, this is my point. He explained it. [0:23:02, 0:23:04]: Oh, Facebook, getting a Facebook. [0:23:04, 0:23:06]: That's the flash of the board. [0:23:07, 0:23:10]: But relapse, I rely on your [0:23:10, 0:23:14]: To give me information that I didn't rely to them He probably he probably can't think. [0:23:15, 0:23:20]: Civil Sugar ain't never been a part. Ever been a part. [0:23:21, 0:23:24]: Oh so I need to correct what I just said today. [0:23:38, 0:23:40]: I'm going I gotta rely on what you did. [0:23:41, 0:23:46]: I was using I could tell them which I know but I'm told somebody else, yeah, I I get it. [0:23:47, 0:23:51]: No, it's it's Facebook. Cypricard's always been fine. It's just the Facebook. They they [0:24:06, 0:24:06]: Also the link is all. [0:26:01, 0:26:03]: Yeah. [0:30:50, 0:30:55]: There's a memory stick in here and I didn't want to take it out if it's like it's a wine. [0:30:55, 0:30:57]: Juan. [0:30:57, 0:30:58]: She needs a season. [0:30:58, 0:31:00]: Our IT person is gonna come help me. Wonderful. [0:31:18, 0:31:18]: Oh yeah. [0:31:19, 0:31:27]: I just didn't want to take out the memory stick if if you were using it. Oh oh um I think that's for uh for input that in the [0:31:28, 0:31:30]: Or I can spray. [0:31:31, 0:31:33]: [1893.7, 1895.1]: That's [0:31:36, 0:31:37]: I don't like it. [0:31:39, 0:31:44]: I guess I could put this right here. Yeah, I'll just load it back in when I want. Thank you. [0:31:58, 0:32:00]: Yeah, we can look at this. [0:32:00, 0:32:04]: Well then. [0:32:22, 0:32:25]: So yeah, yeah. [0:33:15, 0:33:18]: Council, could you come to DIS please so we can get started with our meeting? [0:33:19, 0:33:21]: Council, please come to Dis, please. [0:33:29, 0:33:33]: Humble mark. [0:33:54, 0:33:56]: She's here. She's here, but uh [0:33:57, 0:33:59]: We are going to [0:34:03, 0:34:11]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have six o'clock. I'd like to call this city council meeting November thirteenth, twenty twenty three, to order. [0:34:12, 0:34:20]: Invocation this evening, Mr. Mike Davis, sir. Please, if you can come to the mic, the mic should be on. Ladies and gentlemen, please stand if you can. [0:34:25, 0:34:45]: Let's uh go to the Lord in prayer. Gracious Heavenly Father, as we come to you today, thanking you for all that you have blessed us with. Thank you so much, Lord, for the uh Stockbridge uh City Council and all the members here. Lord, we just lift them up and we uh pray that uh pray for them and and through these meetings, uh they work a long lot of long, hard hours. [0:34:45, 0:35:05]: uh for the citizens and we just thank you for them. And Lord, we just uh lift this whole meeting up to you and pray your will will be done as as it will be done. And Lord that we just uh honor you and all that we do for it's in Christ's name we pray. Amen. Amen. Do a pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag. [0:35:05, 0:35:17]: with the stand of earth and through the public with which stand one nation under God individuals with liberties and justice for [0:35:18, 0:35:20]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:35:25, 0:35:38]: I just wanted to mention Mayor the agendas are available in the table in the lobby if you did not pick one up on your way in. Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Present. [0:35:40, 0:35:42]: Councilman Alexander. [0:35:43, 0:35:45]: Councilman Blount. [0:35:46, 0:35:53]: Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Kirk. I appreciate that. Um [0:35:54, 0:36:13]: Council, I'll need the uh actually amendment to the agenda and uh like for you to listen to this please. I'd like to need a need a motion to amend the agenda to defer the following items to December eleventh, twenty twenty-three meeting by the applicant's uh request, and that would be item number twelve, thirteen, and fourteen. [0:36:14, 0:36:21]: So moved. Is there a second to that motion? Second. Mr. Blount, second to that motion. All favor, please indicate. [0:36:22, 0:36:40]: I have unanimous decision. Got four votes on that. So items twelve, thirteen, and fourteen will be postponed until the eleventh. Mayor Ford. Yes ma'am. For the record, that is the annexation case for property at 77 and 87 Holloway Road. [0:36:40, 0:37:00]: It is. It is uh deals with the once again annexation case you're right. Uh on the seventy seven eighty seven holiday road, also the comprehensive uh plan movement uh amendment case for the same uh level, same uh property addresses, seventy seven eighty seven Holloway Road, and also the rezoning case for those same properties. Those will be reviewed and uh [0:37:00, 0:37:13]: held held on December eleventh by the applicant's request. So they will not be heard this evening. Uh let's see here. Okay, now I need a motion to the adopt the overall agenda, please. [0:37:15, 0:37:35]: Is there a second? All in favor, please indicate. Okay, thank you very much, unanimous decision on that. Um once again, uh council, you have the adoption of the minutes, the approval of the September eleventh, twenty twenty twenty twenty-three council minutes and also September twenty-sixth work session minutes. If there are no changes, I need a motion to accept those into the record. [0:37:35, 0:37:36]: [2257.0, 2260.0]: So is Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [0:37:41, 0:37:50]: Is there a second? Second. Miss is that you, Ms. Blount? Was that Mr. Ms. Blount? That was you? Yes. Okay, thank you. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:37:51, 0:37:53]: [2274.0, 2275.9]: Madam Clerk, do you have any public comments at all? [0:37:59, 0:38:19]: Okay. All right, then we'll on that note we'll go to our ceremonial review. Earlier uh today, roughly at five starting five thirty, we had four proclamations that uh were read into the record. World uh pancreatic cancer day, a small business Saturday uh for twenty twenty-three, and which I understand that should be November. [0:38:19, 0:38:38]: 25th, I believe that date is. A Business Matters Expo and that dealt with the Alpha Cappa Alpha Swordie Cy Alpha Omega chapter here in Henry County. And also a proclamation for the National Native American Indian Month, that we honored that along with um Alaskan natives as well. [0:38:39, 0:38:45]: On that note we'll go to Yes ma'am. Our retiree has arrived. Oh y he has? [0:38:46, 0:39:06]: Okay. Uh all right. Isn't that something? All right, council of uh we have a retired employee that uh I have a award for that was not here earlier. I've just been notified of course that uh he has now arrived, so we'd like to issue that that uh award to him. And so on that note uh I'd like to [0:39:06, 0:39:18]: have a motion just to go ahead and and change that. Put that on the agenda per se. It's a ceremonial type of thing. So that's neither uh uh do this right now in this aspect. Is that right? I need sir. [0:39:19, 0:39:31]: Uh I move to uh alter the agenda to allow for this recognition. Okay. Is there a second? I second. Okay, all favor please indicate. Thank you very much. Okay, so we're seeing [0:39:32, 0:39:35]: Where is it? Council, you can come join me down. [0:39:55, 0:39:56]: Bear with us folks. [0:39:57, 0:39:59]: Well yeah, we recognize [0:40:01, 0:40:02]: Really? [0:40:43, 0:40:58]: Well ladies and gentlemen, if I could I would sing to you, but I'm a lousy seat. Thank you. Put it in an amendment. [0:41:05, 0:41:06]: [2467.6, 2469.2]: So [0:41:11, 0:41:14]: One of the things. [0:41:15, 0:41:20]: Uh I mean one of the shit. [0:41:31, 0:41:38]: Our ladies and gentlemen, this is uh Tommy Mosley, telling the water. [0:41:38, 0:41:45]: Okay. And Tommy's been with City Starkers thirty two years. Right. [0:41:52, 0:42:12]: We've seen a lot of changes in 32 years. And he's retired in this aspect. So we want to honor him in uh being a chance to uh give this back to you before. So 32 years of service, thank you for all the service and dedication that you've given to the city of Stockbridge with Community Connect 1991 to 2023. Congratulations. [0:42:12, 0:42:15]: [2540.8, 2541.7]: Yeah. [0:42:22, 0:42:38]: Who is his wife? His mother. His mother. I'm sorry, I didn't know that. Wait, you wanna come up for a picture, man? Yeah, any relatives you have by the way, are we wives here uh you got a word to lose the press up? No. [0:43:01, 0:43:01]: Where's it? [0:43:06, 0:43:10]: All right. So we're gonna go in three. [0:43:13, 0:43:15]: One two three. [0:43:30, 0:43:32]: Yeah. [0:43:56, 0:44:02]: All right, Council, we're gonna reconvene our meeting. And um [0:44:03, 0:44:19]: We have a presentation and the presentation deals with resise resc revised proc uh provisions to the state zoning procedures law, a presentation on the state of Georgia zoning procedure law regarding new mandated requirements. Mr Anderson, please. [0:44:23, 0:44:26]: Good evening. Um we have a presentation by a consultant. Um [0:44:30, 0:44:45]: for sure be giving us up to date on the recent changes from the two twenty twenty-three uh state of Georgia legislation. Uh some new movement regulations came out and changed the zone proceeding law and we got to do some mandate changes to our use by the Belgian [0:44:46, 0:44:47]: So we've got [0:44:48, 0:44:49]: Okay, thank you. [0:44:52, 0:44:56]: And welcome. Yeah is the mic should the mic should be on. [0:44:56, 0:44:59]: There we go. City Council. [0:44:59, 0:45:01]: Thank you for having me. [0:45:05, 0:45:11]: All right, so what I want to do, uh again, Ryan introduced me Rebecca Kiefer with CPO. [0:45:11, 0:45:12]: Um [0:45:12, 0:45:31]: And what I want to do tonight is walk you through what the changes are that happened at the state level and what that means for you locally here uh at City of Stockbridge. Um identify some recommendations moving forward and then uh get get some direction and then proceed through the text amendment process from there. [0:45:31, 0:45:32]: Okay, thank you. [0:45:32, 0:45:45]: So first uh just very briefly wanted to outline what zoning procedures law is. Essentially this is uh it identifies the uh process that you have to go through if you want to at the local level. [0:45:45, 0:45:50]: uh use your zoning power. So it outlines it does not tell you [0:45:50, 0:45:56]: How to zone, um, kind of what your zoning policy should be. But it does say these are if you are going to zone. [0:45:56, 0:46:06]: These are the minimum uh processes and notification requirements that you that you have to have. And um you've got to have them in your ordinances. [0:46:06, 0:46:26]: And then uh you can do some things above and beyond that, but at a minimum you have to do these various things. Uh it was most recently, and I'll I'll review the amendments, but it was most recently amended in July twenty twenty-two, and and actually there was a an amendment this past legislative session that I'll I'll review what that means too. It did not update. [0:46:26, 0:46:27]: Yeah. [0:46:27, 0:46:33]: uh the procedures section of zoning procedures law but does have implications for uh a land use. [0:46:34, 0:46:41]: Uh so House Bill fourteen oh five was what was uh am adopted in twenty twenty two, effective twenty twenty three. [0:46:42, 0:46:47]: And it did three things. It defined what quasi judicial decisions were. [0:46:47, 0:47:07]: Uh previously there was just a definition for zoning decision and said, and those are effectively rezonings, um, any kind of legislative decisions that you do. So now uh the state has said also the quasi-judicial decisions that you have, variances, special exceptions, those are also subject to uh these state zoning procedures law. [0:47:07, 0:47:18]: It outlines those additional hearing and notice requirements that you have to do for quasi-judicial decisions and then uh also went in and and amended the appeals procedures uh previously. [0:47:19, 0:47:20]: Um it it [0:47:20, 0:47:27]: it was through uh rid of certiori and that went through a a series of kind of adjustments and now it clearly articulates [0:47:27, 0:47:36]: That um zoning decisions are appealed de novo, so um they can uh introduce new information, and quasi-judicial decisions are. [0:47:36, 0:47:41]: Um in the zoning procedures law it indicates writ of sortiori. [0:47:41, 0:47:52]: But there also was a an additional bill um that call calls that um uh you know something different. So that's uh what I'll outline in House Bill nineteen nine sixteen. [0:47:52, 0:47:53]: Yeah. [0:47:54, 0:48:00]: And then uh as a result of that, you're required to adopt these changes uh at the local level. [0:48:00, 0:48:00]: So [0:48:01, 0:48:04]: There are a couple of things that I'll I'll go through in the changes. Um [0:48:05, 0:48:11]: that we've got certain recommendations and and the reason for that is a little bit of ambiguity that was created with these amendments. [0:48:12, 0:48:17]: So you've got what are defined as quaus of judicial decisions, as there's a appeal of administrative decision. [0:48:17, 0:48:22]: special administrative permits, special exceptions. Also variances are defined in that. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: And conditional uses. [0:48:25, 0:48:36]: Zoning decisions are des defined as rezonings, text amendments, uh I'm s uh special uses and concurrent variances. As you can see, kind of down the middle, there are a couple of things that kind of split the line. [0:48:36, 0:48:52]: of this is the same, but it's just bundled with the rezoning. And so uh what you'll see as a result of our recommendations is that you treat them all the same in that you're meeting both standards so that there's not any kind of um [0:48:52, 0:48:58]: a challenge that could come later if you are supposed to handle something one way. [0:48:58, 0:49:06]: but somebody's appealing it that you should have handled it another way. If we handle them all so that they meet both standards, then you'll be on on good ground either way. [0:49:08, 0:49:18]: So um first I had mentioned that it changed the or it added the definition of quasi judicial um through the definition of quasi judicial officers, boards or agencies. [0:49:18, 0:49:21]: Um and then added to the zoning decision. [0:49:21, 0:49:22]: Uh [0:49:22, 0:49:33]: But prior to this it said if you're m you know, taking an action to approve of zoning decision and this uh amendment also just added if you also repeal or deny it does not not make that a zoning decision. [0:49:34, 0:49:35]: So what [0:49:35, 0:49:42]: As far as the structure of my presentation, I've got kind of a summary of the the changes to zoning procedures law. [0:49:42, 0:49:55]: In the white portion and then in the orange, kind of what we're recommending for for you all to do to to make adjustments. So in the ordinance, we're suggesting that through the text amendment process we can clearly define the actions that are defined. [0:49:56, 0:50:03]: Even if that's to to reference state law, we want to make sure that it is clear what those are and and what has to follow what procedures. [0:50:03, 0:50:07]: And then um in practice the change is is just make sure that [0:50:07, 0:50:18]: um these are are being followed. And if we add anything extra at the local level that is not required at the state level from a due process standpoint, we just want to make sure that we're following that as well. [0:50:19, 0:50:38]: required hearings. Just um there's a specification or kind of a differentiation between the two that for uh zoning decisions only uh one hearing is required whereas per proposed action is required for a uh quasi judicial decision. And so um we would just recommend that you continue to vote on each action individually. [0:50:40, 0:50:47]: Notice requirements. Again, I'm I'm mostly articulating what is different. Um there are notice requirements for zoning decisions as well. [0:50:47, 0:50:52]: But for quasi judicial decisions, since those are what uh have been newly introduced in this legislation. [0:50:53, 0:50:55]: Those require thirty days of notice. [0:50:56, 0:50:59]: And it requires written notification to the property owner. [0:51:00, 0:51:02]: Previously in the code there are there are a lot of ordinances [0:51:03, 0:51:10]: that uh at the local level require, you know, property owner notific notification within three hundred feet, five hundred feet. [0:51:10, 0:51:14]: adjacent um which is what what's in your code. None of that's required at the state level. [0:51:14, 0:51:31]: But this has introduced the requirement to notify the property owner. Most of the time, that is also the applicant, um, or the applicant is is aware through virtue of you know having to sign off on it, but this just mandates that y uh a letter is sent to that property owner. [0:51:33, 0:51:40]: So this is one of the uh biggest changes and um something that will probably uh [0:51:40, 0:51:42]: impact you the least and and I'll explain why. [0:51:43, 0:51:47]: So what this this changed to multifamily, the multifamily um [0:51:48, 0:51:53]: u kind of use rezoning requirements says is that if you as a city [0:51:53, 0:52:03]: are introducing a text amendment that involves allowing a multifamily use in a single family district. So um that's if in your [0:52:05, 0:52:05]: Um [0:52:05, 0:52:25]: your suburban district, you are suburban residential district, you are allowing a multifamily use within there through your text amendment process, then you have to go through these added procedures. Or if you're abolishing in your entire code all single family residential classifications, you have to go through these added that all go through these added requirements. [0:52:25, 0:52:28]: requirements or if you are rezoning [0:52:29, 0:52:31]: Um, only the city, not an applicant initiated. [0:52:32, 0:52:34]: As the city, if you are rezoning property, [0:52:35, 0:52:40]: Um to allow multifamily in a single family district. [0:52:40, 0:52:46]: then you also have to follow these. So um just overall what we would recommend for these is [0:52:46, 0:52:48]: Most of these are uh [0:52:49, 0:52:56]: Things that you would not do likely from a from a policy standpoint. Looking at your comprehensive land, you're gonna protect your single family districts and not [0:52:57, 0:52:58]: uh allow multifamily in them. [0:52:59, 0:53:15]: We have to at least reference the uh state legislation and these added requirements, but it is a lot of extra text that you're not likely gonna going to have to implement. So what we are suggesting is that you adopt these uh added requirements by reference and say [0:53:15, 0:53:18]: If the city were ever to do any one of these three things. [0:53:18, 0:53:27]: then um reference these additional requirements. But because it's not something that you're likely going to do, we would not recommend putting it in the code. And and I'll show you why. [0:53:29, 0:53:42]: So um from a hearing standpoint, if you're gonna do one of those three things, um decisions have to be adopted at two regular meetings that are a minimum of twenty-one days apart. So there's a lot of kind of calendaring that you have to uh navigate. [0:53:43, 0:53:54]: Prior to that two read required adoption, you have to have two additional public hearings, and they have to be held between three and nine months prior to adoption, and then there's a time duration for those. [0:53:55, 0:54:08]: And then there's a notice requirement. So uh you have to post the affected premises. Uh and if there's more than 500 parcels, then you have to post every five hundred feet. So for instance, let's say uh you're going through and doing the text amendment. [0:54:08, 0:54:12]: А то елиминіт сингл фамили і [0:54:12, 0:54:13]: in the code. [0:54:14, 0:54:17]: All the current single family districts would have to be noticed in this manner. [0:54:17, 0:54:19]: And then you've got to do the newspaper ad. [0:54:19, 0:54:27]: Again, those are policies that are you are not likely to do and s so we would recommend just adopting that by reference. So if if sometime there is some [0:54:27, 0:54:42]: legitimate reason why uh you're gonna want to do that. At least there's a notification to staff, an alert that says, hey, if you're gonna process something that is in this manner, you've got all this additional uh these additional requirements. [0:54:44, 0:54:50]: So um moving on from that, there's also a requirement to uh provide [0:54:50, 0:54:51]: Uh an uh [0:54:51, 0:54:55]: written policies and procedures. So those are the that's the criteria. [0:54:55, 0:55:00]: for um you know variances and things to be [0:55:00, 0:55:18]: available to the public um it written. And so right now you can call up the department and and get those written. Um but we would recommend uh kind of providing those at the uh at council meetings so that it's it's just something that's readily available. So we've got to write that into the ordinance and then um [0:55:18, 0:55:23]: adopt that as a pr a practice to offer those printed coun uh copies at council meetings. [0:55:23, 0:55:32]: And those are again the procedures for hearing those variances and uh rezonings, but then also the criteria that you all use to uh assess them. [0:55:33, 0:55:41]: And then the appeals that I had mentioned, um, there's the de novo for appeal for uh review for zoning defici decisions, and then [0:55:42, 0:55:51]: um the appellate review for quasi j judicial decisions. And one thing that uh the zoning procedures law has mandated is that we designate in the ordinance [0:55:52, 0:55:56]: An uh an elected official or designee for quasi judicial appeals. [0:55:57, 0:56:01]: and uh an officer of quasi judicial boards to receive those um [0:56:02, 0:56:03]: Uh those appeals. [0:56:04, 0:56:09]: And then just the effective date. So we wanna uh adopt these and move forward. [0:56:09, 0:56:13]: So then the two other bills that I had mentioned in my presentation, House Bill nine sixteen. [0:56:14, 0:56:23]: Uh it was uh an amendment from this this most current legislative session and it and it actually repeals the writ of sortiory process that we used to process appeals. [0:56:23, 0:56:37]: And now it calls it a petition for review process. Um so anything that is being appealed, uh uh any quasi-judicial decision, i it's just a new process in a new section that is not in the zoning procedures law. [0:56:37, 0:56:44]: Um, but is important because it actually uh the verbiage at least conflicts with zoning procedures law. So we'll wanna reference this this revision. [0:56:46, 0:56:55]: And then this is the land use that I mentioned. So Senate Bill 213 from this past legislative uh session is an amendment to zoning procedures law. [0:56:55, 0:57:15]: And it it did two things. It outlined uh what uh manufactured housing uh and similar types it it's uh that are applicable, and then prohibited local governments from preventing non conforming uh manufactured housing from being replaced. So if there's a lot and it doesn't meet [0:57:15, 0:57:24]: setbacks doesn't meet uh design regulations in the current code, they have to be allowed to replace them. And so we need to uh amend the code to be able to do that as well. [0:57:25, 0:57:26]: Um [0:57:27, 0:57:36]: And so then I will run through uh a series of policy decisions just to kind of um tick tick through for uh you all that we will be [0:57:36, 0:57:38]: uh analyzing so if you have um [0:57:38, 0:57:47]: any any preferences, please please chime in. So for one, in state law there is uh the ability for uh successive applications [0:57:48, 0:57:52]: Um that if they are denied uh for zoning decisions. [0:57:52, 0:58:12]: that they have to effectively have a waiting period of six months. In your code today, that is 12 months. And so you have the ability of dropping down and just doing the state law minimum. So um if there's any preference um to drop down to the six months, I'm happy to hear it and kind of make those adjustments. Otherwise we can continue with the 12 months because it [0:58:12, 0:58:14]: [3494.2, 3496.1]: Just wanted to um note that. [0:58:17, 0:58:28]: Property owner uh notifications. Currently you're doing the adjacent property owner notifications, so we'll just add to that um that the subject property owner has to be notified as well if for some reason they're not a party to it. [0:58:29, 0:58:36]: Um as far as accepting service, we are recommending um mayor and city clerk. [0:58:36, 0:58:42]: uh for that accepting service but can can kind of write in um uh who your preference is. [0:58:44, 0:58:57]: Currently, um you've got a list of allowed variances that limits your flexibility a little bit. And so we would be looking at identifying a list of prohibited variances that um [0:58:57, 0:59:01]: People cannot request and but then opening the door to [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: Um what additional variance is subject to that criteria? [0:59:05, 0:59:07]: Um that hardship criteria. [0:59:08, 0:59:13]: We'll look at uh a waiver process that varies a little bit from a variance process in that. [0:59:14, 0:59:20]: uh you do not necessarily have to meet a uh the barrier of a hardship. [0:59:20, 0:59:32]: But uh it would be to design standards and things where you're able to provide alternative designs, but maybe not meet the letter of the code. And so that would be um something that we would propose in the amendments. [0:59:33, 0:59:48]: Consider uh reviewing Platz as an administrative process and then consider implementing a community zoning information meeting, which is applicant driven, kind of outside of the city where the the applicant has to um present and and provide minutes from from their meeting. [0:59:50, 0:59:59]: And then um just to let you know the adoption schedule, um uh probably in December uh at uh planning. [0:59:59, 1:00:05]: We would uh look to adopt the twenty twenty-four calendar that is consistent with this thirty-day notification process. [1:00:05, 1:00:07]: And um [1:00:07, 1:00:12]: then bring before planning commission uh december twenty first the [1:00:12, 1:00:20]: Uh text amendment to be heard and then Marin City Council on January 9th for adoption all of these redlined uh text amendments. [1:00:20, 1:00:29]: So with that I am ready for questions if you've got any. Well thank you for the briefing. I appreciate that. Um Mr. Washington and Mr. Gardner, could you come to the mic, please? To the podium. [1:00:34, 1:00:54]: Ma'am, I n you you probably have some questions coming up as well. I just want to double check. We have a couple I mean, I see the adoption schedule here, so I'm I'm pretty sure this answers my question. Otherwise we have rezoning cases before us tonight. So obviously this these changes we haven't officially adopted even though it's been passed in the legislature. With those this will don't doesn't take effect with anything we do tonight. Is that correct? [1:00:54, 1:00:55]: Right. [1:00:56, 1:01:02]: Okay. That's why I'm double check that. All right. Council, any questions you may have? Gentlemen, please stand by just in case. Questions? [1:01:03, 1:01:05]: Ms. Barber, you have a question? Go right ahead, please. [1:01:06, 1:01:12]: For clarity, um, with the question the mayor just asked, we do have a public hearing on the agenda. [1:01:12, 1:01:15]: One specifically the Valley Hill Road. [1:01:15, 1:01:16]: Um [1:01:16, 1:01:19]: How does this affect the decision? [1:01:19, 1:01:20]: That the council may [1:01:21, 1:01:22]: Today regarding [1:01:22, 1:01:23]: that public hearing. [1:01:24, 1:01:25]: Yeah, so we had already [1:01:26, 1:01:35]: In reviewing this, we didn't have any conflicts with the legislation that needed to be proposed that the city was going to do with Valley Hill. I can't hear you. [1:01:35, 1:01:41]: It doesn't. We didn't have we didn't find that it did. Counsel, if I'm wrong, let me know, please. [1:01:45, 1:01:48]: Can you provide a full explanation? [1:01:50, 1:01:55]: The proposed changes that were up here that they said that needed to be taken into consideration for our zoning code. [1:01:55, 1:02:10]: Our zoning code is meeting that with the Valley Hill requirements. So there's no need for there to be any adjustment to the Valley Hill requirements if you all decide what you want to do with them. In other words, everything that has been proposed in our [1:02:11, 1:02:30]: Many of the things we kind of caught before this legislation was even passed. And so there'll be some tweaks, but they're not major tweaks. As she noted those five the six points that would need to be done would be tweaks, not major rewrites of all the legislation that we have. And so it doesn't affect enshort the Valley Hill or any of the decisions that are on the docket today. [1:02:30, 1:02:31]: Thank you, sir. [1:02:32, 1:02:35]: If I'm please correct me if I'm Any other questions, Council? [1:02:35, 1:02:37]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:02:38, 1:02:43]: I want to thank you again for your presentation and uh I I need a little c clarity myself. [1:02:43, 1:02:48]: Uh when you mentioned uh Senate Bill two thirteen, uh the new zoning law. [1:02:49, 1:03:01]: You use the word conformity. Um, and I'm trying to get a better understanding. And I think you use an example if a property owner had a vacant piece of property and wanted to come in and build [1:03:02, 1:03:22]: they could not just come in and bill. It has to meet the same conformity as to what is already existing in that particular subdivision. And and the reason I asked, uh there's an issue currently in a subdivision and uh the property owner is trying to come in and bill [1:03:23, 1:03:24]: But [1:03:24, 1:03:29]: He wants to build something that is not [1:03:29, 1:03:35]: uh similar to what's there and I I think the city did deny [1:03:35, 1:03:55]: But now and I know there's a a a homeowner here and I wanted her to hear this because this is something that we had talked about. So can you reiterate? Thank you for the opportunity to clarify. Yes, this is for um things that existed well, well before today, um and for those uses specifically, not for not for any use, if not any use that's non-conforming. [1:03:55, 1:04:04]: conforming, any structure that's nonconforming. If the specific uses that that meet the definition and and a and a lot of that goes to interpretation. [1:04:04, 1:04:05]: Um [1:04:05, 1:04:07]: that we'd have to consider on a case by case basis. [1:04:08, 1:04:20]: Those are the situations that are afforded this uh ability to r to replace. It's not instituting something brand new that is not conforming to the current code. Anything brand new has to comply with the current code. [1:04:21, 1:04:22]: Thank you. [1:04:22, 1:04:23]: I knew it back there. [1:04:23, 1:04:31]: All right, no problem. Mr. Blount, you have a question? Yeah, I'm tr um looking at the prohibitions and I think it was you said was it Senate Bill two thirteen? [1:04:32, 1:04:34]: That talked about the trailer Holmes. Yes. [1:04:35, 1:04:35]: Um [1:04:36, 1:04:38]: If a developer comes in [1:04:38, 1:04:42]: for a long term scope of those properties uh [1:04:43, 1:04:45]: When you have trailer homes and a certain amount of acreage [1:04:47, 1:04:51]: And that developer wants to continue to buy, buy, buy and hold, hold, hold. [1:04:52, 1:04:55]: Is there a percentage in there of [1:04:55, 1:05:05]: homeowners that are still left, does that bills those prohibitions still stand for the rest of the community, even if that even if over fifty percent of that community is gone. [1:05:06, 1:05:09]: And and do the structures still exist? Are they currently being used? [1:05:10, 1:05:16]: Well at that point it doesn't matter because it because it's it's it's in a uh other ownership and not for that use. [1:05:16, 1:05:36]: Oh okay. So i if it's a a different use it's not likely, but we can we can while we're working on the red line text amendments, we can look at some specific cases and and try and understand how they how but you see what I'm saying, right? Right. Yeah. You know, because that's it's the same concept that happened what happened happens in communities, but [1:05:36, 1:05:47]: But it would be the same concept. But with those provisions, though prohibitions that are in the Senate Bill two thirteen, w I was just trying to figure out what percentage would that be nullified or how do you [1:05:48, 1:06:08]: Uh there is not a percentage that I'm familiar with, but I I can look at a a specific example and and just to get a better understanding for how it applies. Yeah, it's gotta be something in that bill because if you get say for instance for instance you got fifty homes and three left, now you got all this acreage that's been bought up, then that bill obviously can't [1:06:08, 1:06:14]: stand the way it's the way it's presented now. There has to be some kind of something in there that says [1:06:15, 1:06:29]: the right for the people that are wanting to develop the rest of the land. Well and certainly if the if the owner wants to do something different, this does not prohibit the landowner from doing something different. It just preserves rights of the the landowner or the user. [1:06:30, 1:06:50]: So it preserves the rights of the landowner that if he wants to rebuild, he can rebuild that instead of moving on. More than likely. Yeah, yeah. That that's if somebody wants to continue or wants to replace it, if there's not a desire to [1:06:50, 1:06:53]: to replace it then then the bill does not [1:06:53, 1:06:55]: I is not applicable. [1:06:55, 1:06:56]: Okay, got you. [1:06:56, 1:06:59]: Any other questions, Council? Go ahead, Ms uh Ms. Cant. [1:06:59, 1:07:08]: Um I don't have a question. I just have a comment. I did see here on the policy decisions that one of the things that mayor and council [1:07:08, 1:07:18]: can consider or should consider is community zoning information meetings, applicant driven. And I think that's something that we really need um [1:07:19, 1:07:21]: To put in our policy. [1:07:21, 1:07:26]: as a a requirement that we require them to have a community zoning information meeting. [1:07:26, 1:07:27]: I think that would be good. [1:07:27, 1:07:31]: without us having there are some developers who do it already. [1:07:31, 1:07:34]: they go out and they reach out to the community and people who are [1:07:34, 1:07:42]: Um maybe for or against. Um oftentimes it's against, but um I think it would do [1:07:43, 1:08:00]: uh a better of service and allow notice and allow more communication and dialogue between that developer and the community. So that was the last bullet point here under the policy decisions. And I think we should consider that as part of our policy. Okay. [1:08:01, 1:08:21]: Any other questions, concerns for the council? So since this deals with legislative uh process updates and changes that are done by at the Georgia State Capitol and the timeline given here, I would imagine we need a motion to accept this responsibility and have this done by the timeline so we're in compliance here at the at the municipality. [1:08:20, 1:08:30]: Municipality. So if that's the case, uh need a motion to accept this, along with maybe potentially Ms. Gantt, your additional comment. [1:08:30, 1:08:33]: And uh see what what the council wants to do here. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [1:08:34, 1:08:45]: I move that we accept the revised provisions to the state zoning procedure law, in addition that we also require the community zoning information meetings by the applicant. [1:08:46, 1:08:47]: Okay, is there a second that motion? [1:08:49, 1:08:54]: Is there a second to the motion? Yes, sir. Ms. Mr. Thomas Secondette. All in favor, please indicate. [1:08:55, 1:08:59]: Shenam's decision. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. [1:09:01, 1:09:16]: What's next is we at the twenty twenty two auditors discussion analys analysis of the annual comprehensive financial report from Malden and Jenkins. Mr. Gardner and Hope Pendergrass and Malden and Jenkins, please. Welcome. [1:09:22, 1:09:32]: Good evening. How are you all doing? All just fine. Thank you for the opportunity to come and speak with you all tonight. I see that you have a very full agenda, so I'm gonna keep my remarks very brief. [1:09:32, 1:09:52]: Um we do have the 2022 audits. My understanding that's been provided to you all. Um highlights include that we issued an unmodified opinion. That's a clean opinion, that's the best that you can get. So kudos to management and the council for its leadership in that avenue. Um the city does prepare an annual comprehensive. [1:09:52, 1:09:58]: Financial report, which means that you all have taken the initiative to go above and beyond the basic requirement. [1:09:59, 1:10:19]: And submit your financial statements for a national award through the Government Finance Officers Association. You all have received this re award in previous years and your prior year certificate is included in the current year audit. And we have um no doubts that you all will continue to receive this certificate again for your 2022. [1:10:19, 1:10:20]: Um ac for. [1:10:21, 1:10:21]: Um [1:10:22, 1:10:42]: Other highlights include the fact that you all have fund balance in your general fund of about four point five million. Um your utility funds are holding steady. So um as far as that goes, we did have um a few findings in regard to uh material audit adjustments. That's something that's very that it's [1:10:42, 1:11:01]: It's pretty routine. Um Maldon and Jenkins audits about six hundred and fifty governments throughout the southeast. And so um whenever we make material audit adjustments, we do have to report those as a finding. That's nothing necessarily indicative of misappropriation. It's just sometimes you have to dot the I's across the T's and us accountants kinda geek out on that stuff. [1:11:01, 1:11:02]: So [1:11:02, 1:11:13]: Um, we did have some recommendations, those have been provided to management, but I don't see anything within the findings that can't be easily corrected in your 2023 year. [1:11:13, 1:11:18]: So that is my m my quick synopsis and I'll be happy to entertain any questions should you have them. [1:11:18, 1:11:38]: Well, thank you for that. Appreciate it. Council, what kind of questions do you have? Mr. Mr. Um Alexander, please go ahead. Thank you so much for your presentation. And uh you've been before us numerous times and you've been you've done the audit. You've done a fine job in completing the audit. I think in previous indications you had indicated you all uh audited some. [1:11:38, 1:11:41]: three hundred cities in Georgia, is that correct? [1:11:41, 1:11:55]: Um, I have to go back and look and see where we are as far as the number of of cities in Georgia, but um we we just keep up with it as a total. That includes six fifty includes cities, counties, boards of education. They're out our um southeast footprint. [1:11:56, 1:12:16]: Okay, so pretty much you do I guess is the commissions and uh school boards and everything. Yes, sir. A little bit of everything. Actually, I think you made the statement that the city was pretty strong in terms of where you were, uh in terms of uh what you had seen in other areas, especially with us having a reserve fund and then us um [1:12:16, 1:12:36]: been operating as we have been operating uh previously. Uh certainly we incorporated a police department this year, which kind of it certainly impacted the uh overall expenses. But what I heard from voters over over and over again during that time was that they wanted to be safe and certainly uh [1:12:36, 1:12:56]: Voters should understand that's uh why we had that's why we implemented a millage. The millage is at the lowest rate divisible, which was 3.77 percent. Previously, we had not had uh a millage. So certainly um those numbers still remain uh inefficient. [1:12:56, 1:13:02]: a stronger p in a strong s in a strong position uh with reserve funds uh available to the city. [1:13:05, 1:13:08]: Is that a question? Yes. Is there we remain in a strong position? [1:13:09, 1:13:09]: Um [1:13:10, 1:13:28]: Your fund balance is certainly not as strong as it has been, but like you said, the city has undertaking some initiatives in the current year that, you know, hopefully going forward, you know, they won't be as uh sustained of an expenditure up front. Anytime you implement new initiatives, you know, there's gonna be some upfront cost. Mm-hmm. So [1:13:28, 1:13:29]: Um [1:13:30, 1:13:34]: Does that answer your question? Yeah, I'd like to ask Mr. Gardner to come to the podium. [1:13:42, 1:14:02]: I think this is the time of the year that the property tax generally come in to the city and then that changes uh those numbers tr tremendously as we go through the year. We're taking down the amount and then bam the property taxes hit all at one time. Explain uh that process again. [1:14:02, 1:14:20]: we're sitting at that number today, uh which we are, but certainly we with the property taxes coming in, which is pretty much the majority, uh uh which is a large sum of the monies that we take in to balance our general fund. Talk about that. [1:14:20, 1:14:40]: Yes, sir. So your property tax is still not your number one source of resources. Lost. So your sales taxes at about twelve million. Um will estimate it to be that with the fact that of the population growth. But your property tax will come in, it will be citrical as it relates to your overall budget up financial operations throughout the year. [1:14:40, 1:15:00]: So for cities whose budget starts July 1 to June 30th, you know, they see that hit the budget in June in November, and then it used to carry them over from November to June, and then June back to November. Ours will obviously be January, and then in the month. [1:15:00, 1:15:13]: months of November and December, we'll see that influx. It'll then help us in the current year, but also project us into the next year, just like in the fiscal year of like Henry County, which is on a July to June. So it'll become cyclical every year. [1:15:14, 1:15:34]: And so for us that's that's uh one way of being good. The good part about it is for us being on the calendar years, obviously you start in the new year and you're able to then track throughout the year. So it'll help that that will give us the obviously the boost that we need, but also um one of the things I'm gonna show in the presentation I'll gonna give later on is [1:15:35, 1:15:40]: As I mentioned to this council, this city is fast headed towards fifty plus thousand people. [1:15:41, 1:15:43]: So you gotta keep that in mind. [1:15:43, 1:15:44]: Right. Um [1:15:44, 1:15:47]: I literally spoke to a colleague, um [1:15:47, 1:15:49]: From a town in North Carolina. [1:15:49, 1:15:53]: And in nineteen ninety they were the same size as as this city. [1:15:53, 1:16:13]: About 4,000, 3,000 people. They're now 80,000. Right? Um, but obviously, yes. So as time go along, you'll be looking at how do you adjust up or down based on what happens in the economy. Your property tax tend to be more stable of your revenues. However, I will say that you just lost. [1:16:13, 1:16:22]: Has been our loss overall throughout the state has actually been good even through COVID, because a lot of people stayed home, but they also went and they [1:16:23, 1:16:37]: spent money online and they did stuff around their houses. So they didn't stay idle for a lot of folks. And apparently that we didn't see a huge dip. But your property tax will be a strong a strong point moving the city forward. The city won't no longer operate under one primary source. [1:16:38, 1:16:50]: And so what dollar amount should we expect to hit for this particular uh number that we're expecting? So looking at it,'cause I was talking to a resident uh today, not last week. [1:16:50, 1:16:56]: Uh uh property tax will come in somewhere around the sixteenth was between the sixteenth and and Thanksgiving. [1:16:57, 1:17:17]: Um on an annual basis it usually hits your budget around it hits um my escrow and I looked even at my old house around the six the thirteenth or the sixteenth of November is when my escrow company pays in. Obviously most of our homeowners are probably still on escrow's. Um some already have paid for their home. [1:17:17, 1:17:23]: and obviously they'll bank that throughout the year and pay it. Um but that'll hit somewhere around [1:17:23, 1:17:43]: Around the year. Right. How much should we be using? So we're we're estimating overall rent all collected somewhere around six point seven. So you probably see somewhere between five and six million that'll hit us within the next week or two. Okay. From Henry County tax assessors. From the Henry County tax assessor, that money should come in uh to um to help to fund what we have. [1:17:43, 1:17:46]: we got going on with the city operations, correct? [1:17:46, 1:17:54]: Yep, and like I said, it becomes centrical. Every year you'll see that happening a on a yellow basis moving forward. Thank you. [1:17:54, 1:18:14]: I just wanna add to that discussion and then the fact that because your property tax is gonna come in right around your year in and right before it going forward, you'll be essentially at your fattest, healthiest at twelve thirty one probably, because that's when you're gonna get the bulk of your tax revenues, whereas your expenditures are, you know, flat over the [1:18:14, 1:18:20]: the year you're gonna have this big jump. So you're gonna look really healthy at twelve thirty one and you're gonna need to consider that. [1:18:20, 1:18:39]: for your initiatives for the next year. Whereas if you were like a six thirty entity, they're they're leanest at their year end because it's right before their property taxes start coming in. So that's just some context that you all will need to consider when you're looking at the audit going forward because again, you'll be your fattest from a health standpoint. [1:18:40, 1:18:41]: at your year in. [1:18:42, 1:18:52]: So basically what you're saying is today is we're looking at now today we'd be adding that six point seven million dollars to uh the fund bal the current fund balance, correct? [1:18:53, 1:19:12]: Yeah, that'll be that'll be utilized for your current fund balance and the balance off your current FY twenty three. And then it carries into the next year and and as Right, but I'm saying the number in the that's why it would be so fat because it would be that is correct. Uh but basically if it's four point six plus six point seven, it'd be over eleven million dollars. [1:19:12, 1:19:30]: But that'll be obviously that'll still be temporary. Of course it's it's being used and but that's what the number would be. So we want to compare apples to apples because that's what we've been doing uh in the past, so people can understand uh the direction that we're going in and and where we're going to. So I certainly uh do appreciate that. Thank you. [1:19:31, 1:19:43]: Yes, sir. And and as I said, it you remember, you will get that high and then throughout the year as we go, we'll rely that you pay off those those debts over that time you'll be relying on your sales tax that'll come in monthly. [1:19:44, 1:20:04]: Some property tax will come in behind that. Obviously for those folks who are not on escrow, they tend to pay a little later or throughout the year. So that'll continue to trickle in, but not at the same volume that you'll see. Okay, one one one final question. So that everybody understands, I made this this conversation has been centered around the property tax. It really is you for important for you to understand. [1:20:04, 1:20:24]: Understand, my property tax is$5,052 this year.$3,500 of that is the school board tax. So you have to understand when we're talking about what we implemented, the school board has a 23 mil tax that everybody pays until you're 62 and it kind of goes down at [1:20:24, 1:20:44]: At that time, the city implemented a millage of 3.77. I said 23 for the school board and 3.77 for uh the city. So understanding we certainly want to do everything that we can to be uh to minimize the impact to you, but the real financial impact each and every year that we're seeing [1:20:44, 1:20:53]: suffering with these increases in the property value starts with the school board, then it trickles down to the county, and then it comes uh to us. So thank you. [1:20:54, 1:20:56]: You know the comments from the council? [1:20:57, 1:21:17]: I do. Yes I'm sorry. I just wanna I wanna make sure preference to what we got. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead, please. Uh the city's miller's rate is at three point seven seven, but I think everyone needs to be that got annexed then look at your twenty twenty two and your twenty twenty-three. What the city did was you were already paying one point something miller's rate for your police. [1:21:17, 1:21:26]: that came into the city's three point seven seven. So in essence, the city only actually truly increased from a military standpoint about one point something on it. [1:21:27, 1:21:47]: Right. So fo that's something that the city citizens did not understand is that they were already paying Henry County for public safety, which was about one point nine on average home about two hundred dollars. So basically uh we didn't add the three point seven seven as the city manager said, we added about half of that uh to what what you were already [1:21:47, 1:21:54]: already paying for public safety, but you got sixty police officers uh patrolling the Stockbridge streets now. Thank you. [1:21:55, 1:21:56]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:21:56, 1:22:00]: Um, so and forgive me, I'm still just [1:22:00, 1:22:03]: Looking through the table of contents of [1:22:03, 1:22:04]: This information. [1:22:05, 1:22:06]: The engagement letter. [1:22:06, 1:22:10]: Is that something that's a part of this report? No ma'am. [1:22:10, 1:22:11]: No. [1:22:11, 1:22:16]: No ma'am. Okay, I'd like to request a copy of the engagement letter and the reason being is [1:22:16, 1:22:24]: I want to know if you all took a look at the general ledger transactions for budget amendments and any adjustments. [1:22:25, 1:22:27]: Would I be able to find that? [1:22:27, 1:22:28]: in this financial report. [1:22:29, 1:22:32]: There are budgets to actual schedules in the report, yes ma'am? [1:22:33, 1:22:39]: The schedules. Yes, ma'am. There are budget to actual schedules. So they're like there's an analysis in the report. [1:22:40, 1:22:42]: Of the budget to actual for the general fund. [1:22:43, 1:22:47]: your ARPA fund and then some of your smaller governmental funds. [1:22:47, 1:22:49]: Okay, but any of the [1:22:50, 1:22:50]: Um [1:22:51, 1:22:52]: Adjustments. [1:22:52, 1:22:54]: to any of the general ledgers. [1:22:55, 1:22:56]: Where would I find that? [1:22:56, 1:23:08]: The adjustments to the budget or the adjustments to the general ledger? To the general ledgers. Oh the aud like audit adjustments or okay. Um yeah, management has a copy of the audit adjustments. [1:23:08, 1:23:09]: Okay, I'd like a [1:23:09, 1:23:12]: I'd like to request a copy of that as well. [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: Please. [1:23:16, 1:23:18]: Is that something we need to vote on here? [1:23:18, 1:23:21]: [5001.4, 5001.8]: Yeah. [1:23:22, 1:23:24]: I was gonna answer the question, but go ahead, sir. What's on it? [1:23:24, 1:23:25]: Uh well uh [1:23:26, 1:23:28]: Mayor Pro Tem, are you finished? Because [1:23:31, 1:23:34]: You said that management has a copy. [1:23:35, 1:23:38]: Correct. Of the audit adjustments, yeah. Right. [1:23:39, 1:23:41]: I'm wondering why the council does not have that. [1:23:42, 1:23:44]: I mean that's the [1:23:44, 1:23:50]: protocol at all the governments that we go to, we provide management with a copy of the audit adjustments. [1:23:50, 1:23:53]: And then they distribute them to their governing body. [1:23:54, 1:23:57]: as requested. I don't think I've ever included audit adjustments. [1:23:58, 1:24:03]: All right. So I guess that's the question for you, Mr. Gardner. Please. [1:24:05, 1:24:08]: If if I haven't sent them I can send them tomorrow. [1:24:12, 1:24:16]: I will make sure that everybody gets a copy of one the engagement letter. [1:24:16, 1:24:20]: And also a copy of any of the um [1:24:21, 1:24:38]: Audit adjustments. But as I think the auditor said, that's typically something that happens from an operationalist well working with with finances that finance department throughout the state, school boards, whoever they work for, um that happens. But if co if counsel wishes to have a copy of that, we'll provide that. So everything that [1:24:39, 1:24:42]: Malden and Jenkins gave to management. [1:24:43, 1:24:47]: I like to see it too. We will provide whatever they give to us to you guys. Yes, ma'am Thank you. You're welcome. [1:24:49, 1:24:50]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [1:24:50, 1:25:10]: Can you explain exactly what audit adjustments are so everyone can get a a better idea? Um uh especially if we haven't done it in this way before, just kinda explain it so that everyone can understand what's going on. Sure. So management records the activities of the city in a general ledger. [1:25:10, 1:25:20]: which is essentially the books and records of your financial transactions. They present the ending numbers to us to audit. [1:25:20, 1:25:29]: If we um as a as part of our audit process, if we determine that a number needs to be corrected, we post what's called an audit adjustment. [1:25:29, 1:25:36]: And so those adjustments are provided to management and accepted as part of the finalization of the audit process. [1:25:36, 1:25:56]: So, you know, sometimes it's like, hey, we had this invoice that came in and when we're auditing, they put it in the twenty twenty-three year, which is the year in which it was paid, but it was really something that related to the twenty twenty-two year. So we were recording accounts payable at twelve thirty-one twenty-two to say, hey, the city owed this as of [1:25:56, 1:25:59]: [5159.5, 5162.3]: So that would that would be an example of an audit adjustment. [1:26:03, 1:26:04]: Thank you. Mm-hmm. [1:26:05, 1:26:07]: Any other questions from the council? [1:26:08, 1:26:19]: Thank you. This is a presentation. So otherwise um we did Mr. Gardner got a directive. I don't know if it's necessary to make a vote on that. You got a directive in reference to what we what you indicated you're gonna get to the council. [1:26:20, 1:26:20]: Uh [1:26:24, 1:26:42]: Right right, right, right. I'm just right, I just thought. Okay. So otherwise we you have to guidance on that. Uh so um so we'll move on uh to the next item'cause no need to uh have a vote on this or at this point in this aspect because there's a document obviously we'll be getting [1:26:44, 1:26:44]: Okay. [1:26:45, 1:26:49]: Consent agenda. Uh council consideration approved the use of mural matters conference [1:26:50, 1:26:57]: A center ballroom for the youth council holiday event on december sixteenth of twenty twenty three. Um [1:26:59, 1:27:05]: Miss uh Gordine, I don't know if she's here to make the it's on the consent agenda, so I don't know if any questions that the council may have on approving this. [1:27:07, 1:27:15]: We we generally you just vote on the Okay, well okay I need a motion force vote. So m so I second. Okay, from Alazar to Gantt. All favor, please indicate. [1:27:16, 1:27:17]: Thank you very much. [1:27:17, 1:27:18]: Thank you. Thank you. [1:27:19, 1:27:22]: Oh, there okay, there you are. No no problem. You're good to go. [1:27:22, 1:27:25]: I council. I had um [1:27:25, 1:27:32]: Please excuse me, I missed something a little earlier and I wanna let you know that number eighteen, item number eighteen was actually a new business item. [1:27:33, 1:27:53]: That deal with the council review of consideration for property tax, homestead exemption plan, and ordinance for 2025. Mr. Ed Wall is here for that. So before you get started, I want to make sure that you're all right with us amending the agenda to move from item uh this new business item from item 18 all the way and have this right now before we go into public. [1:27:53, 1:27:59]: hearing mayor so moved okay ms Gantt second over here ms mr Blount second that all in favor please indicate [1:28:00, 1:28:03]: Okay. Discussion. Okay, one what okay. [1:28:03, 1:28:06]: Question. Thank you, sir. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [1:28:07, 1:28:12]: So I'm concerned because all of these major [1:28:13, 1:28:16]: Items that are coming before the council right now. [1:28:16, 1:28:18]: including this annual [1:28:19, 1:28:19]: Audit. [1:28:20, 1:28:21]: We just got it. [1:28:22, 1:28:23]: When we started the meeting. [1:28:23, 1:28:27]: I haven't had an opportunity to review any of this, okay, including [1:28:28, 1:28:30]: Um the homestead exemptions. [1:28:30, 1:28:32]: I've been waiting for staff to send me. [1:28:33, 1:28:34]: The information. [1:28:35, 1:28:36]: I just got it. [1:28:36, 1:28:43]: Right now. Okay. And if I'm expected to vote on anything, I'm not because I haven't re reviewed anything. All right. [1:28:43, 1:29:02]: Well, we had a motion on the floor to to uh uh put this movement from eighteen to now for Mr. Wall one second, um one second we had a motion on the floor and it was uh set made and seconded, I believe from uh Ms. Gantt to Mr. Blount. All right. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. All right. And and Miss uh Barber, you either oppose or sustain one or the other. [1:29:03, 1:29:08]: I approve amending the agenda to add this item. [1:29:09, 1:29:11]: for discussion or presentation. [1:29:11, 1:29:13]: But I will not vote. [1:29:13, 1:29:26]: Okay, sir. On anything. Okay, so otherwise you're all right. It's announced decision to put this on the agenda now. Move it up on the agenda now. It's announced decision. All right, Mr. Wall, it's yours. Real quick, Matt. Go ahead, please. Um, please speak into the mic as well, sir. [1:29:26, 1:29:46]: Yes. Um Councilmember Barber is correct that yes, we just handed this out. Um as you know, we've been working on it um and tried to get it here today uh early. That's uh my fault. But you please take the presentation. You don't have to actually vote on it today. We still actually have time for you to actually get the information. Uh [1:29:46, 1:30:06]: Um was the word I'm looking for. Gather your thoughts on it, send back questions to us. We still have time in Rich to actually send this to our legislators to be put on the schedule at the General Assembly to make things happen. So our goal is to present this information to you, get some feedback. [1:30:06, 1:30:07]: Because obviously [1:30:08, 1:30:25]: Everybody's gonna have a different view of how what what they want to see in the cafeteria plan. We can then once get consensus bring this back to you guys and then have a final vote on that before the end of the fiscal year. So this is actually informational, not not for a vo not for a vote on the year. Obviously you just air is gonna present. [1:30:26, 1:30:28]: You guys divulge the information? [1:30:29, 1:30:38]: Give us some feedback and then we'll move with what we get back from from the council. All right. Thank you. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. May I ask that this item be added to the end of the agenda? [1:30:38, 1:30:54]: We've got a room full of residents here who are obviously here for a public hearing. You agreed to that motion. Matter of fact, it's an absolute decision to move. Did you say when we would add this item? Yes, right now. Okay. I think it well then [1:30:55, 1:30:57]: I rescind my vote then. [1:30:57, 1:31:17]: I will abstain. I'd rather have added to the end of the agenda. Okay. All right. So that the people who are here for the public hearing. Mayor Prozamp, got it. No problem. Stand up. Thank you. Um I guess on the legal aspect, okay, we got we had a motion. It wasn't that she wants to rescind that, so to abstain. So it's four zero one. I imagine we can legally do that. We can change that. [1:31:17, 1:31:17]: Correct? [1:31:20, 1:31:24]: No, no, no. Well, she says she just wants to take a v she wants to sustain it because in this aspect [1:31:25, 1:31:30]: She vo originally voted to to have this attitude to j move it up. Okay, now she wants to [1:31:31, 1:31:33]: Right. [1:31:35, 1:31:36]: Supposed to second. [1:31:37, 1:31:41]: For for for her. I mean everybody else is agrees. [1:31:42, 1:31:42]: Okay. [1:31:43, 1:31:47]: Okay. Thank you, sir. What's your comment, sir? Mayor for the council. [1:31:48, 1:32:01]: The fact that this is just merely a presentation, there's no vote on this. When it was presented, it it appeared that we would entertain a vote, but the fact that we're just [1:32:01, 1:32:02]: in attaining [1:32:03, 1:32:04]: The presentation [1:32:05, 1:32:25]: I think Mayor Pro Tem is correct. We have all these folks here. I really think we should entertain the public hearing and then um entertain this presentation uh from Mr. Wall. So I rescind my vote as well. Okay, if you resent Okay, there's still three votes indicating that we wanna we wanna go. [1:32:25, 1:32:27]: Mayor Ford. Yes sir. [1:32:28, 1:32:29]: I would hope [1:32:30, 1:32:48]: That another council person would rescind as well, because let's be respectful of these folks that are here tonight for this public hearing. The fact that we're not voting on this and this is just a presentation and we just received it, just that fact alone. [1:32:48, 1:32:51]: We should have a little bit more respect for these citizens. [1:32:52, 1:32:56]: We'll we'll get we'll go get hope that at least one other council person [1:33:00, 1:33:11]: I would hope that one other council person will have the respect and the dignity to rescind that vote as well. So and a and Mr. Wall, it has nothing to do with you. [1:33:12, 1:33:23]: Um has nothing to do with you but the fact that these citizens have been here for a while. And again, we just received this. And so I just think it's just out of respect that we should we should do just that. [1:33:25, 1:33:25]: Okay. [1:33:26, 1:33:27]: Yes, sir. [1:33:28, 1:33:31]: Yeah, the the agenda says it's for um [1:33:32, 1:33:43]: review and consideration of the property tax exemption, Homestate exemption plan and ordinance. Because the part consideration mean that it it could be a voting item tonight. [1:33:43, 1:33:46]: Uh one of the things that I would hope this council would do [1:33:47, 1:34:07]: Uh, and that's in respect to all the citizens here in City of Stockbridge, is that we look at um this as a way of saying that um we have um so many citizens that came into the city of Stockbridge that are now uh that I got so many calls in the day that we call. [1:34:07, 1:34:08]: [5648.5, 5654.3]: When they came into the city of Stockbridge, they came into the city of Stockbridge opening their pocketbooks because of this. [1:34:15, 1:34:20]: And this is important for s thousands of citizens right now that's been annexed into the city. [1:34:21, 1:34:22]: So I don't I don't [1:34:23, 1:34:30]: It's not a disrespect to anyone in the audience on procedurally what we do up here. That's not a disrespect. [1:34:30, 1:34:33]: Із адес піс хі. [1:34:34, 1:34:51]: reflects thousands of citizens that need to understand that there is relief for taxes. When you have people that are on fixed income and all of these people that are sitting here uh looking at it that that are wondering what is gonna happen because we gave some people [1:34:51, 1:34:55]: That got annexed into the city a tax bill that they didn't have. [1:34:55, 1:35:08]: And that tax bill came for this year and it's gonna be on next year until it goes to a referendum. So I'm not gonna diminish the importance of this because we're we're saying move ahead and it's not a disrespect to anybody that's here. [1:35:09, 1:35:17]: It's simply saying that this is a new agenda item, and the process have always been to deal with new business in the form that it comes in. [1:35:18, 1:35:35]: I I I wish that we wouldn't use words like we're disrespecting anybody. Everything on this agenda is a part is important. It may not be as important to the ones that are here as it is for the thousands that's been an annexed into the city, but everything we do is important. And it's not a disrespect. Mayor Ford. [1:35:35, 1:35:46]: Yeah. Well hold on, stand by a second, stand by. We could be through talking about this by now. Oh I'm sorry, sir. We could be finished talking about it instead of talking about it. Right. Okay, stand by, stand by. Yes, Mr. Mr [1:35:46, 1:35:48]: The disrespect is [1:35:49, 1:35:51]: To leapfrog [1:35:51, 1:35:54]: An agenda item says new business eighteen. [1:35:55, 1:35:57]: To leapfrog over [1:35:58, 1:35:59]: The public hearing. [1:36:00, 1:36:15]: Which was scheduled and we voted on earlier today to deal with it. That's that's my only concern. I'm not saying not entertain agenda item eighteen, but to leapfrog agenda item eighteen over. [1:36:17, 1:36:25]: The public hearing. That that that is my criticism of this process. All right. All right. So well, okay. So if we got two individuals, stand by Mr. Walt. [1:36:25, 1:36:37]: Two individuals say they want to rescind it. Okay, so otherwise what I understand from the attorney, we would have to do another motion, uh if I understand this right, to re instead reconsider this once again. Is that correct, sir? [1:36:41, 1:36:52]: Okay. So I need a motion to reconsider whether or not we are we would what's over this one has to be res reset do we have to do a motion to resend this all initially or just to just to say a motion to reconsider? [1:36:55, 1:37:05]: from the table then the chair will do a motion that we consider or if there are going to be enough votes to where the members would want to ascend their votes and they can do that and then [1:37:07, 1:37:19]: Okay, how about a motion to reconsider it uh whether or not we've taken item number eighteen and move it up and talk about it right now or not? Is there is there a motion to if I can do this is this proper motion is there a motion to do that now? Mayor forward. [1:37:19, 1:37:20]: I move. [1:37:21, 1:37:22]: That [1:37:22, 1:37:25]: Agenda item eighteen. [1:37:25, 1:37:26]: remain [1:37:27, 1:37:41]: in its current location for discussion. Okay, Mr. Blount, second that. As long as we talk about it. Okay, second. From Mr. Thomas to Mr. Blount. All right, all in favor of that motion. [1:37:41, 1:37:46]: Is I'm sorry. I'll put it looking at its current location. [1:37:46, 1:37:49]: Back to the current location, which is linear number eighteen, which is at the very end. [1:37:50, 1:37:55]: The motion was to move the to to take item number put no item number eighteen back to eighteen and not do it now. [1:37:57, 1:37:58]: Does that understand that correct? [1:37:59, 1:38:00]: That is correct. Okay. [1:38:00, 1:38:06]: So on f do you you clear on that, sir? Yes. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:38:06, 1:38:18]: Oh announced decision. Is that announced decision? Okay. Sorry, Miss Wall, you gotta wait, sir. All right. Now on that note we do have a public hearing. All right. Now public hearing and so let me go through this. [1:38:19, 1:38:35]: Right now. Public hearing rules. Please mute all cell phones and electronic vices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the uh city clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff. [1:38:36, 1:38:41]: followed by the applicant and the representatives regarding proposed plans for property along [1:38:41, 1:38:54]: with any other relevant information. The counsel will be free to ask questions any time before the vote. Following the applicant following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have the opportunity to do so. [1:38:54, 1:39:10]: Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended by discretion of the counsel. Please keep comments and presentation professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. [1:39:10, 1:39:30]: Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. 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The presiding officer will call for the motion, the second of as a second of the motion. [1:40:10, 1:40:18]: Any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval and denial of the request. [1:40:19, 1:40:39]: Yes, sir. Certainly there's a policy of ten four and ten against. Right, there is. There is. There it is. But we've we've adjusted you know we as a council, we have adjusted those. I understand that the policy is ten four and ten against. That's correct. So what what process are we following? Are we following the procedure which is the first one? Yeah, we're gonna follow that. [1:40:39, 1:40:46]: We'll follow that procedure initially and then if it comes to the point we need more time, I'm going to ask you all whether or not you want to grant more time or not. Thank you. All right. [1:40:47, 1:41:06]: All right, public hearing 2024 DAD to 2028 of the City of Starbury Short Term Work Program and Capital Improvement Element. Council consideration of the adoption of the twenty twenty-four to twenty twenty-eight city starbury short-term work program and capital improvement element, STWP slash CIE, presented by Mr. Ryan, please sir. [1:41:07, 1:41:10]: Okay, this is our presentation on our [1:41:10, 1:41:30]: 2024 to 2028 short-term work program and capital improvement projects. Most of the projects come from the community development department and the public works department and also economic development. We have several different categories. We have several projects on the community facilities, totaling 29% [1:41:30, 1:41:34]: nine million one hundred and seventy nine thousand nine hundred dollars. [1:41:36, 1:41:39]: We have uh several projects on the economic development. [1:41:40, 1:41:42]: Toting two hundred and twenty thousand. [1:41:43, 1:41:49]: And we have several um projects under land use totaling one point five million dollars. [1:41:51, 1:41:58]: And also there are projects on the transportation totaling fifteen million six hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars. [1:42:00, 1:42:15]: And uh hit this page right here is the update on our short-term work program uh from last year and programs in the past. And you can see that these projects have been completed. There are 13 completed projects totaling forty-five million dollars, well over 45 million dollars. [1:42:19, 1:42:27]: And on this page is our capital expenditures project summary. Most of these projects right here stem from public works and parks and rec. [1:42:29, 1:42:45]: They're totaling um eleven million dollars. And the funding type um mostly come from Splosh and Future Splosh. And um some of it even come from the general, a portion of it even come from the general fund and um CIP bonds. [1:42:53, 1:43:13]: So this is our public facility type, um, our wastewater programs. And we we had um collected five hundred and eight eight thousand five hundred and eight thousand dollars in impact fees from um, I mean from our impact fee fund balance carries over from the past year for five hundred and eight thousand. Uh last year we collected [1:43:13, 1:43:16]: [6197.4, 6202.6]: And our total impact fee fund balance is six hundred and thirty six thousand eight hundred and eighty seven dollars. [1:43:23, 1:43:23]: Um [1:43:24, 1:43:26]: Now we're ready for our public comments. [1:43:27, 1:43:29]: First of all before public comments though, first is that [1:43:30, 1:43:32]: Council, you have any questions for Mr. Anderson here? [1:43:34, 1:43:54]: Go go write it, please. Certainly I think folks should understand that what we're doing, the projects like the amphitheater, the improvements, downtown traffic, all of that is a part of our our plan. It's not just happenstance that we work on these things. And certainly I think what I heard a lot of is uh some concern is what some [1:43:54, 1:44:14]: Or what are y'all doing for the youth? What are you doing for the youth? I heard that so many times and I certainly want to ensure the public that we're doing that and that is a part of our plan. And one of the things that we're talking about is the Senior and Youth Recreation Center that has been on the council's list for us to move forward with uh to do something. [1:44:14, 1:44:25]: with so certainly I just want to assure the public that we certainly intend on providing youth activities and at the center of that would be uh the recreation center. [1:44:27, 1:44:29]: Any comments from the council? [1:44:29, 1:44:37]: Certainly I want them to be able to indicate or to show that on the program. This one that should be on one of the capital projects on there. [1:44:38, 1:44:39]: Mm-hmm. [1:44:39, 1:44:44]: Okay, if the Northern Congress of the Council now opened it, and the community facilities [1:44:44, 1:45:04]: Right, from community facilities. And certainly I think the public should understand that we went and we visited with Congressman Scott uh at at National League of Cities uh with a and uh we talked about a sum of eighteen million dollars that uh he would try to secure for us in the federal budget to be able to uh [1:45:04, 1:45:24]: Actually move forward with this facility because it's going to take a great deal of funding. And while all of you all are sitting there, SPLOS 6 is coming up next year. The facility that we had designed by TSW will be about$30 million. The facility includes an indoor pool. [1:45:24, 1:45:44]: Includes a walking track, a cafeteria. It is reminiscent of Welcome All Park. So if we're able to sustain that$18 million in funding, federal funding, then the council here will have to put the rest of the remainder on splotch number six, and you all will get to vote. You vote if you vote yes. [1:45:44, 1:46:04]: Then that additional funding that we need to build the recreation facility will be approved. If you vote no, then the recreational facility will not. Many of y'all ask, well, where you know where do what do you all get to participate in the process? So if we're able to land that$18 million in funding for the Youth and Senior Center, then you will be given the opportunity to [1:46:04, 1:46:21]: to pro to approve the rest of the funding as we've heard out in the public about the Youth and Senior Recreation Center. So we seri we're serious about moving forward with this project and I certainly will be advocating for that additional funding to be included in splotch number six. [1:46:24, 1:46:26]: All right, any comments from the council? [1:46:27, 1:46:30]: If not, then open up for a public uh public hearing. So [1:46:31, 1:46:41]: If they're I'll start on my my left. My left. Anybody over here any comments uh for or approve uh this particular um um short term work program? [1:46:42, 1:46:43]: Four [1:46:43, 1:46:46]: In the middle. Anyone wanna speak for this? [1:46:48, 1:46:55]: My far right. Anybody want to speak for? Okay, back over here. Anybody want to speak against this process on the my far left? Anybody want to speak at all? [1:46:56, 1:46:57]: Anybody in the middle? [1:46:58, 1:47:05]: Anybody on the right side, my right side. All right, so on that note, this piece of this part of this uh public hearing is closed on this particular item. [1:47:06, 1:47:13]: And so if that is the case, then council I need a motion to I second. From Alexander to uh Gantt. All favor please indicate. [1:47:14, 1:47:34]: All right. And uh okay, we've got four. Mr. Uh Thomas was now present. Okay. Uh next we'll continue on with the zoning modification case uh ZM 2023-01. This is uh council district five, council consideration and request for a zoning modification. [1:47:34, 1:47:37]: [6457.6, 6477.6]: To allow for multifamily residential development in pod A and to allow senior family residential in pod B, identified by parcel number zero five three-01018000. The property has a is 14.634, excuse me, 14.63. [1:47:57, 1:48:17]: Acres and is assessed via Chin Parkway and Argento Drive, landlots 77, 78, and 83 of District 6. Application by Michelle Y Swane, member of applicant of Southern Consulting Services Incorporated, which is owner. Staff recommendations are [1:48:17, 1:48:37]: approved and the planning commission recommendation is approval. Applicant uh requested a deferral to the November course, November 13th, 2023 council meeting, which is the night. And says presented by, well, Mr. Ryan, I guess you have it. And thank you, sir. Yes, sir. Okay. This is um is simply um a request from the owners of the uh bridges adjournment. [1:48:37, 1:48:40]: [6520.4, 6527.4]: revised their conceptual site plan. Their plan was never meant to be a permanent site plan. It all it was always meant to be fluid. [1:48:47, 1:48:59]: So basically they're coming in to m to move some development around from one pod to another and also to change um a residential use, single family residential use to a multifamily in um pod A. [1:49:00, 1:49:08]: Here's the site from area photo before it was developed. Here's the zoning map of the area. [1:49:13, 1:49:23]: Here's the location of the proposed multifamily uh residential development. It'll be called Thompson Thrift. Here's the uh original Bridge of the Jodico site plan. [1:49:28, 1:49:48]: Here's another rendition of the uh concept plan. And uh these are the parts. The uh site plan has been divided into uh like seven or eight different parts, numbered A through G. And the activity will take place in part A. Uh, here's the new site plan that was issued. [1:49:48, 1:50:08]: Um last month, well, two months ago. One thing about this plan, it does not increase the density, it does not increase the number of units. It all stays within the approved DRI approval back in three years ago. So everything's basically says the [1:50:08, 1:50:28]: stays the same. While um there is a need for increased density out at the um Bridges of Jodico site so that they can attract um more high-end um developments, high-end restaurants and things of that nature. Um staff feels like this is a good idea to um and also [1:50:28, 1:50:48]: Also because the market changes, staff feels like this is a good idea to uh allow them to replace the um the the single family detached residential with multifamily and also to the to build uh senior housing out on the site. Uh the applicant is here um to answer any additional questions, but this is just a simple um [1:50:48, 1:50:57]: Revamping of the conceptual site plan. Like I mentioned earlier, the plan was never meant to be permanent. It always was expected to change. It was always meant to be fluid. [1:50:58, 1:51:18]: Sir. All right. Thank you, Mr. Ryan. Okay. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. So certainly as District Five uh representative, so what you're saying is that the zoning board has voted for approval. Yes and the staff recommendation is approval. And um this fits in is in keeping with where we're trying to go with a quality mixture. [1:51:18, 1:51:38]: use development uh and at the Jodico project and actually uh what it probably would do is it will offer us some additional opportunities to be able to control some control the use at that particular pod and for us to be able to and the applicant will be making a [1:51:38, 1:51:49]: presentation on their particular uh on their particular um pod with renderings and what have you of the uh of the proposed change, correct? [1:51:49, 1:52:09]: Yes, sir. They will. Mm-hmm. Okay. Thank you. All right. Any other qu yes, sir. Quick, please. Yeah, when this project initially came to us, we had different elements in this project. And over time that even this council that was here at the time when it first came, we initially came, we saw that modif modifications were needed for this project. [1:52:09, 1:52:29]: project in order because you want not only attract businesses but you want to attract the uh the you know you want to attract everybody. You talked about the uh senior piece and you talk about the the piece where the uh uh mixed use piece where you're gonna have the younger people who wanna come and you know you know stay we we're trying to keep people in the [1:52:29, 1:52:40]: city of Stockbridge area. And so that that helps to generate that. So uh I'm for this modification and however we need to move forward with it. All right. Thank you. [1:52:40, 1:52:41]: Yeah, questions for the council. [1:52:44, 1:52:52]: Did the advocate need to say anything at all? Jeff, you want to. Okay. [1:52:56, 1:52:57]: Thank you, Mr. Allison. [1:52:58, 1:53:18]: Mr. Grant, welcome once again, sir. Welcome, Mr. Mayor. Thank you so much, Mr. Mayor and the City Council. And and actually you're you're exactly correct. We're not asking for anything other than just a modification to shift the different proponents around on the site that has been deemed more appropriate for the uses. We're not asking for any more density, we're not asking for anything any more than what we're doing. [1:53:18, 1:53:27]: was already approved. It's just shifting around the sites. We we think it better fits what we're trying to do. It gives a better quality. It fits better. [1:53:27, 1:53:30]: Uh and I think it actually flows better. And so um [1:53:31, 1:53:36]: with this th the the importance of a project this of this size and in substance [1:53:37, 1:53:57]: It's always good to have a council that that works with you because when I come to you guys and you understand what we're trying to do, you come out on site and that's the best thing we can do. You guys have been great to work with. And and I tell you, I think everybody's gonna be proud when we get through with it. And um also for anybody that's here that uh Costco's will be opening this Thursday. [1:53:57, 1:54:17]: Thursday, Thursday morning. So we'll have a groundbreaking this Thursday morning. So hopefully everybody can come. But that's basically it, um, uh Mr. Mayor. That's and I certainly appreciate it. No problem. Sir Stand by Mr. Grant. Got questions for you? Yes. Go ahead, Mr. Alzheimer. Thank you for coming out tonight, Mr. Grant. [1:54:17, 1:54:37]: Appreciate our ongoing dialogue about what's been going on and and the project is just turning out to be phenomenal. Thank you. And I want to thank you for your patience because as you we've discussed many a time, you could have filled up that development five times over. Oh, yeah. But you turned down many options that we just we wanted to make it a a [1:54:37, 1:54:57]: area of distinction. You wanted to make it a area where it was just it was different. It wasn't what we already had. And uh that it was uh it would it the my desire and as I spoken to you was to be an area of distinction, that it would be our area uh where folks would go to for entertainment, that they would go to [1:54:57, 1:55:17]: uh to enjoy themselves and they would be very walkable. We got all of those components in this particular development that we wanted. You may you talk to the uh zoning advisory board about the the upcoming tenants and I think many of the people in this room may not may or may not know uh w who uh who all is coming. [1:55:17, 1:55:37]: So maybe it would be great if you could tell the audience here, give that same presentation about some of the tenants that are coming that you've confirmed up. Yes, I'd be more than proud to. On the commercial side, of course, we've got the uh uh you've got your new Chick-fil-A. Now this is a it's gonna be the first one actually in the country that there [1:55:37, 1:55:46]: it it's the first and they're gonna have the first prototype that's coming in. Uh of course you got your Starbucks, your Chipotle, you'll have the first Whataburger we'll have here in the Countywood coming in. [1:55:47, 1:56:07]: Um we got uh a salad to go on the restaurant sides we're gonna have uh the ones we've got committed right now are are first watch. Uh if you've never been to a first watch, it's more of a breakfast brunch type uh restaurant. Uh Bahama Breeze uh is coming in. Uh we look to have the uh uh uh [1:56:07, 1:56:22]: probably our our project Inc. with Carabas here very shortly. They've shown a very strong interest. We're wanting to fit them in on the upper corner. Um we've got several other restaurants coming that we're talking to right now. We've got um [1:56:22, 1:56:42]: Uh probably the the one that we're gonna be that we're hoping is gonna be kind of our prized possession here is gonna be it's it's more of a condo hotel. It's um uh it one of my clients build these worldwide. They're they're it's basically the first, it'll be the first multi-story building you'll see probably on the south side. Yeah, his his are basically two. [1:56:42, 1:56:56]: 12 stories. The bottom four floors are your hotel. The um fifth through the tenth floor are fee simple condos. And everybody for the longest time has always said, well, Henry County's not ready for something of this substance or this style because it's too expensive. [1:56:57, 1:56:58]: Well, I'm I'm here to tell you. [1:56:59, 1:57:19]: That out of the 60 condo units we're gonna have, the starting price for the two-bedroom condos are$750. The end units start at a million dollars. They go up, the three bedrooms go up$50,000 per floor. The two bedrooms go up$25,000 per floor. Now from the fifth floor up, you can see Stone Mountain. From the sixth floor up, [1:57:19, 1:57:37]: you can actually see the skyline of Atlanta. From the seventh floor up, you can actually see Truist Park. So to give you an idea of how well these are sold out, our client that plans on building this, he's already pre-sold the first 30. Of those 60 are pre-sold. [1:57:37, 1:57:44]: He's allowing us to sell the 30 that we want off. Of those 30, 16 of those are so. There's only 14 left to sell. [1:57:45, 1:57:57]: they ha the price average on those will probably average over a million dollars apiece when we get through. So for people to say that the South Side doesn't attract the the um [1:57:58, 1:58:18]: The restaurants and what have you that that this just not here. That's just not the case anymore. The South Side has come back alive. The people here really are wanting this. And what we're finding out by being patient, we're getting restaurants here that we've never had before. And so we've got a couple of restaurant sites that we're holding. On top of this, there will be a rooftop bar and a rooftop restaurant. [1:58:18, 1:58:38]: It's gonna be a name brand steakhouse that you will recognize that you more see in Atlanta that that has agreed to come. And then once we get that done, I can announce that. But you've got a couple other restaurants I think that will be very unique that you see in Atlanta that you normally don't see on the south side anywhere. [1:58:38, 1:58:57]: yet that we are and have been very very patient and and you are correct, Mr. Alexander. We could have sold the Jodeco out two and three times over, but we we there were and don't get me wrong, the vendors that came to us that we've turned out are very good vendors, very strong vendors, but it's ones we always have seen. [1:58:57, 1:59:17]: And so we're trying to track something that that's a little bit different than what we've seen before. And so um we're proud of it. I I I think by being the patients and having the uh efforts with you guys working with us hand in hand, this is what it takes. And so uh this is something that you know most people don't realize. I've lived here in this county all my life. [1:59:17, 1:59:37]: Life. Matter of fact, my my grandmother's house, we live right here where the city City Hall exists, is where I lived all my life. And so my wife and I moved out to Lake O'Coney. My office is still here in McDonald's, so I'm here every day. But being here, my family has been in this county since the government gave land grants. [1:59:37, 1:59:43]: indeed signed is by sight signed by John Quincy Adams. That's all of my family's been here in this county. [1:59:43, 2:00:03]: Now, people say, well, you're developing this thing, you're making money. Well, I would hope we we do make something on it, but we've put a lot of time and effort and years into it. But it's not just that. We we own in this county about 4,000 acres. And I'm here to tell you that out of the 4,000 acres that we own, we have set aside almost 2,000. [2:00:03, 2:00:21]: thousand acres they had previous zonings that everybody in this room would have hated. They would have brought more traffic. They were bad designs. They were, they were, the density that they gave were just unbelievable. All those tracks have been set aside in perpetuity, will never be developed. [2:00:21, 2:00:29]: And these tracts are gonna be we we have posted them with the Southern Conservation Trust and other trusts, but we're gonna be opening these up to the public. [2:00:29, 2:00:33]: And so this is two thousand acres scattered around this county. [2:00:34, 2:00:38]: That probably eliminated eleven thousand houses from being built. [2:00:40, 2:00:49]: Then I and I'm just wanna tell you so when you see me standing up here, there's a little bit more pride in just this project. I wanna see this county do well. I've raised here all my life and I love this county. [2:00:50, 2:01:10]: Thank you thank you sir. Well I appreciate that because I met you down at Chris Tucker's golf tournament absolut with em with uh Emmanuel Lewis. Webster, you guys have bought conservation land all over the place. That's where I met you at. So certainly and then I think we talked about Sprouts Argent on the farmers market. I'm sorry, that's one of the main ones. I don't know anything, but yeah, Sprouts is also coming in. [2:01:10, 2:01:25]: And we're actually with their y'all just got them permitted. I think we're gonna be breaking ground on sprouts. Probably in the next thirty days, we'll be breaking ground with sprouts. They are coming in. All right. Well I thank you. I appreciate that. Thanks. Thanks, sir. Thank you, Ms. Grant. Appreciate that. Yes, sir. [2:01:26, 2:01:46]: It's gonna be wonderful living in Stockbridge. I'm gonna live in my same home though. I'm not moving. Yeah, sidebar joke here, I guess. All right. All right. All right. So I'll start on my very left. Any uh comments uh for necessary uh in reference to uh this particular zoning. [2:01:46, 2:01:48]: Uh [2:01:49, 2:01:50]: Anything in the middle? [2:01:51, 2:01:52]: In my far right. [2:01:53, 2:01:54]: Four. Okay, anything against. [2:01:55, 2:01:56]: Once again my far left. [2:01:58, 2:01:58]: In the middle. [2:01:59, 2:02:19]: All right. Seeing none, I'll close this particular hearing. Council need a motion to accept this zoning modification. Mayor, I'll make a motion for for approval as the applicant has requested. Okay. I second. Okay, from Alexander Miss Gann. All in favor, please indicate. Okay, unanimously. Thank you very much, Council. Okay. [2:02:19, 2:02:35]: Comprehensive Plan Amendment KCP 2020 2023-02 Council District 4. Council consideration of a request for a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land use designation of high density res uh residential. [2:02:35, 2:02:55]: to property at fifty five Ballyhill Road to allow for construction of a town home development. The applicant is D.R. Horton Incorporated, represented by Tiffany Hogan. The property represents parcel number S 16-01006000, located in land lot sixty-nine of District 12, and it contains [2:02:55, 2:02:58]: four point nine six acres within the Stockbridge City limits. [2:02:58, 2:03:11]: Staff recommendation is approval and a planning commission recommendation is denial. Application applicant requested a deferral to the November thirteenth, which is tonight, twenty twenty three. Council meet once again, Mr. Anderson, please. [2:03:11, 2:03:30]: Good evening. Good evening. Um the the parcels the parcel in the property in question consists of twenty four point nine six acres. Currently the the property is is developed with two warehouse build buildings. The current land use designation is light industrial, meaning um a warehouse can go there right now. [2:03:33, 2:03:45]: Here's uh aerial photo of the of the property. The subject property is right here and um there is a recent development underway right here, the Diamante Townhomes. [2:03:48, 2:03:55]: Here's another uh photo of the property. You got an office right there, you got a warehouse right there, and you have an existing shed on the property. [2:03:58, 2:04:10]: From a site visit staff took pictures and this is the existing site right now. Got a lot of the lap I mean old wood and logs on the site. They got a old office building and a old warehouse. [2:04:11, 2:04:15]: Uh the current um [2:04:15, 2:04:29]: Future land use map designate the property as light industrial. However, the future land use map is incompatible with the requested zoning MFR, and that is the reason what triggered the need for a comprehensive plan amendment. [2:04:31, 2:04:33]: Future land use map right here. [2:04:35, 2:04:47]: You can see that the industrial um site is kind of uh not in is is is kind of becoming um outdated because there's not much um light industrial in the area. [2:04:48, 2:04:59]: Right now, the changing conditions of the community. Here's the zoning map. You got light industrial right here and light industrial right there. But most of the other properties or surrounding properties are residential. [2:05:01, 2:05:21]: Um to the north of the property you got um vacant land. It's low density residential and low vertical mixed use residential. To the south you got single family residential, and you have Clark Park and Gardner Park, and the land use is medium density residential and park recreation conservation. To the east of the property, you got the Clark Park, you got public shopping center. [2:05:21, 2:05:23]: Yeah. [2:05:23, 2:05:43]: And um the land use is park and recreation conservation and low density vertical mixed use and low density residential. And to the west of the property, you got the big oak villas, the woodland ridge, and the north stock bridge development. And you have high density residential, medium density residential, and medium density residential. [2:05:45, 2:05:58]: Here's uh a map with all the surrounding land use densities. I don't know if you can if you can see that good, but it lists all the surrounding densities. And the property is compatible with the surrounding land use. [2:05:59, 2:06:06]: As a result, staff recommends approval of the project due to the compatibility with the surrounding community. [2:06:09, 2:06:29]: Here's a copy of the um of the site plan, but we'll discuss that in addition. I mean in more detail during the rezoning case, but here's a a s uh a site, I mean uh a picture of the site plan. However, there there's been some last-minute changes uh that the applicant will explain when she comes up. Um [2:06:29, 2:06:42]: The number of proposed units has been drastically reduced and uh some other changes have been made to this site plan. And we just got that in today around four o'clock, and we didn't have a chance to incorporate that into our staff report. [2:06:43, 2:06:50]: So once again, the the proposal is consistent with the comprehensive plan and staff recommends approved. And the applicant is here. [2:06:52, 2:07:08]: All right, thank you, Mr. Anderson. Okay. Mr. Blount, you had a question already? You said that uh th the site uh without the whether we do this amendment or not is already. Run all night, a day, and J Brakes run with the night. [2:07:09, 2:07:29]: So I chose to put the winding subdivision there and wine creek town home. So it's not in isolation what you're trying to do. But what you need to understand is these situations are real. It just happened. Just happened in that 500,000 square foot warehouse is under construction right now. And this property right now, it's wild. And if the zoning is not changed to a residential use or some other use, it will only [2:07:29, 2:07:49]: Anytime we get an opportunity, this is on, we can't just arbitrarily change somebody because we did lose the value of their property. What we have to do is when a developer comes forward to us, and that developer says to us, uh, we will change, we would like to change the arms to residential. And they did so literally, because that wouldn't be the property. When they changed the designation, they authorized us to change the designation to a design. [2:07:49, 2:08:09]: I'm saying to you right now, I would have done anything if it would have been given us the option to say, we'll take it over this 500,000 square foot warehouse, all of these trucks went in and I do co road. We didn't have the option. You do. Listen to the presentation, listen, final decision I've made. But that's something that I did not know coming in here, understanding what's gonna happen, a particular situation was [2:08:09, 2:08:29]: Now secondarily to this, we do understand that uh the uh way forty two widening has that by G Dot and that the the contractor has the right to start with widened the way forty two from the Walmart under Lark to four lanes or for Walmart two at I sixty five. It will also add a ten foot multipath. [2:08:28, 2:08:48]: Down that entire sector. We add additional traffic improvements along this sector as well. So that should be taken into note. And certainly this is a perfect opportunity, as I mentioned to you earlier, that y'all take into consideration. Splosh 6 is coming up. And T-Splos number 2 is coming up. So as you guys seem very organized and you very well out and you want to be heard. [2:08:48, 2:09:08]: should do and all of us just to make sure that we have a transportation project for Valley Hill Road on fly six and on T splash number two. Make sure that these uh projects are moving forward. As a matter of fact, guns have already begun with Commissioner Neat Robinson about what we can do because she lives right down the street in Pine Grove in order to get these improvements done. This area is living with [2:09:08, 2:09:20]: just answer into the city. It's amazing how we hear from various presidents on flipping road along various areas in the city that we want these roads right now. Well you know when the can when you when those roads were in Caleb Valley Hill and Flippin' Road. [2:09:20, 2:09:40]: County should have widened your own, should have paid three. They did not do that. They have a two hundred million dollar budget here. Our budget is about twenty six million dollars. Ninety percent of funding for tax money goes to the county. But in it's like you got a lot of credit requests from residents saying, We need to fix that road now, we need to fix that road now. But for thirty years or whatever, we're till getting time. [2:09:40, 2:09:44]: road was already in the county, those improvements should have been made. [2:09:44, 2:09:58]: Other considerations that you have to understand when you vote who did not put any money into these roads. Why didn't why why somebody put some money in Valley Hill Road when it's accounting for all of those years? Why wasn't it paid? Why is it in the content that it is in right now? Why? [2:09:58, 2:10:18]: Understanding that you as a citizen have to elect people that are going to vote to put your interest to make sure that those those are to make sure the improvements are done. Understanding that you should not understand the decisions that they weigh heavy on us. Because the last thing that we want to see is 500 square foot rap warehouse right down the street from you. And you complain about the traffic. [2:10:18, 2:10:23]: But man trucks coming too late will be a disaster for you. Thank you. [2:10:24, 2:10:37]: Um I wanna council exercise on that and I just want everyone to think uh uh particularly uh from our viewers on a lot of issues. As of today, if someone came here and said and they wouldn't come here, they don't have to, they have a right right now to doorhouse. [2:10:38, 2:10:39]: Right now. [2:10:40, 2:10:47]: And we could argue stuff in the warehouse. We don't want this. We don't want this trust. There's nothing we can do because it's right now zone. [2:10:47, 2:10:49]: Right in street. [2:10:49, 2:10:55]: Right now. So understand they don't come in here to ask us permission to build that word because it's already [2:10:55, 2:10:57]: We can fight it, but we're g soon we'll lose. [2:10:58, 2:11:07]: So do we it's very rare that we get opportunity to prove that must develop something that's not a commercial or credential piece. Very rare and when we get it. [2:11:07, 2:11:10]: Let's do grab it and take a hold of that opportunity. [2:11:10, 2:11:14]: Because that prevents us from having a light industrial. We can't change it otherwise. [2:11:15, 2:11:35]: So just want you to kinda think that um all the times we get those questions. We you know, someone will say, You m you and the art complex here, you did we don't we didn't do anything. We don't have a right to change it a specific time to do so. So just you guys and that. Thanks for me. Yeah, comments from the council. Real quick um if you don't see a warehouse that g because a lot of these developers it's owned. [2:11:35, 2:11:55]: They see opportunity. They're gonna build even when someone's about to go into warehouses. If you go out on the if you go out uh boulevards 42, there's a warehouse on the right. It's unoccupied because these little these develop these people building these warehouses and now they're looking for occupants. And I take your head, sir. [2:11:55, 2:12:00]: So I'm gonna come in and get pop, go to Wales, and then wait my own com and then there's nothing the council can do. [2:12:00, 2:12:02]: Ms. Bobway, please. [2:12:03, 2:12:06]: Thank you, sir. Um this is City Council District for the district. [2:12:07, 2:12:07]: I did. [2:12:07, 2:12:25]: an opportunity to address. I do want to still have the presentation presentation presented by the developer so that those owners live in close proximity have an opportunity to see it. I have conducted two community outhauls to discuss this very proposal. The reason being is this is what my councilmates decided. [2:12:25, 2:12:29]: The profit is already zoned for light industrial. I'm concerned about a wheelfinger. [2:12:30, 2:12:32]: Prudential would probably be the best option. [2:12:32, 2:12:37]: I support high density, but nice, I'd like to move forward so that a presentation can be presented. [2:12:37, 2:12:39]: And we can hear from home. [2:12:40, 2:12:45]: And to share some of the concerns um that came of community from that I did. [2:12:46, 2:12:48]: Is that it'd be in the record? [2:12:48, 2:12:56]: Mr. Thomas, you're only when I spoke. Anything you need to say, sir? No. No problem. Okay, uh Ms. Tiffany, here. Wanna come forward, ma'am? [2:13:03, 2:13:06]: Good evening, Mary. How does someone double protect up? True. [2:13:33, 2:13:53]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Tiffany Hogan. I'm the Vice President for Planning for DR Port Nana Easton. I have with me this evening also Mr. Smith, who is a traffic engineer technical and actually prepared the traffic study at Traffic Count and at the traffic impact study for that. We were nervous regarding the traffic, so I did want to come here this evening. I will quickly remind my presentation so that at least some time clay as well. [2:13:55, 2:14:15]: This evening we do have the replica that we filed, a comprehensive plan amendment says current is light industrial, uh, and we are proposing that with high density residential. Then we also uh will have a rezoning application because it is currently light industrial, and we are seeking to rezone multifamily residential and develop our homes. And then we finally have a variance your code required. [2:14:15, 2:14:22]: A 50 foot back, we are seeking a variance to 25 feet for that. Uh we will deal with the comprehensive land plan first. [2:14:22, 2:14:40]: Here's the site again. Staff pointed that out in a great way to you just looked off of Atlanta Road. One of the things that we're really excited about this project in Philadelphia, uh planned for a beautiful presentation because it is located right off Atlanta Road, which is becoming one of the main entries to your city. So we want to have a project there that everyone can be proud of as they're traveling uh get to your new theater. [2:14:41, 2:14:41]: Mm. [2:14:41, 2:15:01]: Fifty five value uh is twenty four point nine acres as staff as stated. We are seeking now we have reduced count to one hundred and fifty six town units on the site, which is just over six units per acre. One of the things to make out of our request uh for high density residential for the prehensive plan is that your high density and your code actually starts just uh threes per acre. That's actually below [2:15:01, 2:15:13]: steel to be considered IC residential. So as everyone is considering that, I just want to make sure keeping in mind uh their code is a little bit lower than other jurisdictions in the metro area. And six years per acre is actually per low for town home development. [2:15:15, 2:15:21]: And here the full stater. There are two points located here. I just want to point those out now. Uh [2:15:22, 2:15:42]: The Valley Hill Road to Home Development Comprehensive Plan, Community Goals and Policy. It provides to make sure to attract young professionals, singles, and small families, maintains a family-family environment of protecting and retaining young people. It creates a sense of peace for community along our commercial corridors, and it identifies opportunities to create new trail connections between the existing parts, central areas, and the downtown. [2:15:42, 2:16:02]: Welling to point out those connections, we will be putting ten foot sidewalks on the exterior of the property. There will be eight foot sidewalks internal on both sides of the street for connectivity throughout. One of those changes that staff mentioned to you was there actually used to be a cul deck at that top part of the site north side up by Valley Hill. We have now connected that. Some times that we received at the community hearing. [2:16:02, 2:16:17]: and Barber mentioned early feedback we received in the community actually limited that back, made it a full loop instead for continuity of vehicle traffic as well as pedestrian traffic with those two units. That also gave us the opportunity to add an space in that top area and so additional parking spaces. [2:16:20, 2:16:40]: And again, here is the subject property. The light industrial the blue has just been surrounded by other residential residential pieces now as time. You do have because McSanna across the street there, uh of course is a non-residential use, but pretty much everything else in the area is a residential use. Under the current mid light industrial uses, by right, these are some of the things that would be allowed. Of course, the biggest is the whole system. [2:16:40, 2:16:44]: Many of these do also include warehouse tight. [2:16:45, 2:17:00]: And I will stop my presentation there not just focused on comprehensive land plan. Uh and then it'll be further details during the summer presentation. And available available for any buttons that the council members may have clay of the boys. Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask them. So but questions that council may have this point. Sorry? [2:17:01, 2:17:04]: I have w what um I have one if I may mean. [2:17:05, 2:17:07]: So you originally had how many units on the property? [2:17:08, 2:17:17]: The very early plan actually called for almost two hundred units. Almost two hundred. We reduced it this week reduction. And what was your uh recent thing? Uh we the first time um for [2:17:18, 2:17:38]: Once we realized high density was such a low, we need to get closer uh to that six units per acre, uh that's the first reduction. The second reduction was a design in order to add some additional parking space. And the third reduction just happened over the past week as feedback from community. So when we removed the um stack, we added some additional parking and we wanted to reduce the units a little bit with her closer to one fifty. [2:17:40, 2:17:50]: Yeah, um Barber we have a question. Actually there were several uh concerns the owners had. Um I appreciate you meeting this as well. [2:17:50, 2:17:51]: Um [2:17:51, 2:17:58]: I know that you just int that your original plan came with two hundred units. That's close to I can't remember the count now. I believe that is a bit [2:17:58, 2:18:05]: In fact, um lower the density to under 150. I believe you got to a hundred and six. Um [2:18:06, 2:18:09]: We still need more than a hundred and fifty. Even with you removing um or [2:18:11, 2:18:16]: Removing the what do you call it? Cold process and connecting it. It just looks like you reconfigured some of the [2:18:17, 2:18:17]: [8298.3, 8301.3]: And you didn't remove or reduce the amount of units. [2:18:22, 2:18:42]: So some units were actually just open space editor and that can happen. And one of the things that we consider with getting 150 units, your code actually requires a clubhouse for more than 150 units. It's not required for than 150 units. So if we go that, we're not required to the clubhouse. Additionally, because we all have mandatory HOA in this community, we want to make sure that the prices remain attentive for support these. [2:18:42, 2:18:50]: Fees and one of those iterations is will HOA fees be in the future? So if you need to reduce the number of units, that increases the HOA fees for the rest of the units that remain. [2:18:51, 2:18:53]: Thank you for that explanation. Um [2:18:53, 2:18:56]: So is this the proton to discuss that through [2:18:57, 2:19:00]: The access road that can from Valley Hill Road, Davis Road. [2:19:01, 2:19:15]: So it is a actual road entity and not really an access road. It's meant for it to be a part of the community. Um, I think that I can go further details with the reasons I used to make your adaptation and the concerns that came up from the community. Okay, because that is gonna turn to access. [2:19:15, 2:19:18]: This pulse development is right next to the rural tracks. People are gonna [2:19:18, 2:19:20]: Um as a throw. But nonetheless. [2:19:20, 2:19:22]: I will wait. I'll hold just mine. [2:19:22, 2:19:24]: Points and sorry from the residents. [2:19:25, 2:19:45]: Yeah, so thanks so much. I appreciate that. I understand, you know, in the end it has to be profitable and it has to be worthwhile in order to do the time you got some number down it affects profitability and then the overall H certainly want to community to be maintained. Is this gated community? It is not a gated community. Uh we find that when you sometimes gate the town community. [2:19:45, 2:20:05]: community that sends a number message um that you're trying to keep folks uh in other than um make it a free flowing community. We want to promote walkability to two parks that are close by to this. We want to promote walkability to the amphitheater. The amphitheater is one mile from the northernmost point. So those folks that are in the back will actually be even closer than I'll and [2:20:04, 2:20:24]: be able to walk there as well. That's one of the great things about this site is the amenities that already exist from the backyard dollars, the folks that live here have the ability to get to easily. Well l let me just say this you ask me, I like to see a gate. I like to see gated communities, especially in the multifamily um developments. It send sends out a great message which is secure here and that it protects community. [2:20:24, 2:20:44]: And suddenly um I understand that at 150 might be where you need to be at a serious that included a gate and it could be being gated to keep it 156, certainly we'll do that because I think the community does need to be gated. I think that's what we be consistent in resonating that I do. The down right across right on the lateral is gated. Right there before it's send. [2:20:44, 2:21:04]: and out of messy consistent with and has the same uh small use pass obviously the residents exit through eight to access the multiple use pass along each other and then along frontage. So certainly that my that would be my preferred thing. I'm not sure what the what Ms. Barber has to say about that, but certainly uh that's consistent with what we did. David Road had eight too, so that's consistent with what we've been doing. [2:21:05, 2:21:25]: Okay. Any any track questions, answering track questions on the area. Well, I tell you what, how about give information you just showed us? So we contracted we were contracted to look back in the area. We thought that might be um so that was of discussion at this meeting. So looking at the traffic generated, okay, we do a lot of traffic impact studies for [2:21:24, 2:21:44]: variety of elements that mixed use development we were just talking about with those for anything like we've talked about before different types of uh full use of that roadway base road and uh like hill road um residential use is commercial so when we're looking at residential development the number of trips that are generated residential development is significantly less compared to a mixed use element has commercial or commercial hours so the number of trips are going to be lower in that scenario [2:21:44, 2:22:04]: Scenario compared to an industrial, it's gonna be very certain down two minutes per square footage of the industrial development, how many employees are gonna be at the industrial development. Um when we ran through so looking at forward, we used a very conservative growth rate for historical growth rate in this theory because we were seeing some growth over a period of time. So what we calculated and we actually use, we use something that's higher than we actually calculated slightly just a little bit of conservative. [2:22:04, 2:22:17]: buffer there. Um well second the analysis, uh what I'm gonna point out is have different access points allows the vehicle do an out of byte to access both access points, which disperses the traffic, which can the act the traffic has to any one point within your existing roadway network. [2:22:18, 2:22:38]: We also looked at operation of the traffic signal, East Atlanta Road and Valley Hill Road. In existing conditions, conditions with background growth accounted for in community, everything operated adequately. It's level of service C or better. D is the lower threshold. So it's actually operating better than adequate. Uh we put the project trips again by the time we disperse the trips. [2:22:38, 2:22:45]: out we were showing the majority of our trips getting to East Atlanta Road because that's the road that has the highest volume today can still operate a quickly. Um [2:22:45, 2:23:05]: We even if you start looking at the intercept and going approach by approach, it operates adequately with project um built. So uh we looked at uh preemption preemption uh occurring with trend come through that range between between ten and twenty depending on day. They did seem to avoid the P and P fit that's the surge of traffic, so that's that's a benefit. Um they even set out their monitored traffic for PP. [2:23:05, 2:23:17]: period in the afternoon. And we were able to well road, it does seem to clear most most of the time in one cycle based traffic signal time parameters. Um can be adjusted based on growth we recommend do every two years just on the growth in the area. [2:23:17, 2:23:18]: Sure. [2:23:18, 2:23:27]: Okay, another question council I'll open up this portion of the uh of the uh public for uh open my vlog any uh comments for comments for approved for this particular development. [2:23:28, 2:23:29]: In middle and comments for. [2:23:30, 2:23:32]: A far right cover four. [2:23:33, 2:23:37]: You're in the middle. You're in the middle. [2:23:38, 2:23:58]: Positive comment. Okay. On the right hand side. Positive comments. Okay. Negative comments comment that you not you get this in the far left hand side. Far left side. Okay, in the middle. The negative comments comments you're not four. If you line up one side, uh might be stand up first, line up to the mic. Any negative customer lineup right of first you can. [2:23:57, 2:24:08]: Okay. All right. Just line up. All right. Now. [2:24:08, 2:24:26]: And regular in a rule in twenty ten minutes. Now we make we have made adjustments based on what the council wants to hear. All right. And so when it comes for your name and your and start comment uh we'll monitor all this with the time frame. And we'll see how that how the flow goes with that. All right. These these are these all the people speak this stickler vote. A lamp on this side. All right. [2:24:26, 2:24:27]: Mm-hmm. [2:24:28, 2:24:37]: Madam Stop, good time. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Mike Davis, please. Uh my name is Mike Davis. I'm representing Red Sean Restaurant at three eighty East Dime Redstone Bridge. Okay. We've been there over twenty years. Um [2:24:39, 2:24:49]: My uh infrastructure track at uh intersection. Um I know Mr. Clay did a wonderful job of uh representing uh what he thought was uh good all that. Um [2:24:50, 2:25:10]: I've already seen where at our front it's hard to get in and out already and the units that are just uh north of us have not completed, which is over two hundred units. So once once those get the traffic from the residents there, which is gated community, which is awesome, but um it's congest there. Um and it'll uh I'm afraid it can uh is much of it should be [2:25:10, 2:25:19]: Before all these has to come in and uh and all the business coming right there, uh I'm concerned about being at the restaurant. Uh I respect the ask y'all to consider. I know that um [2:25:19, 2:25:23]: Uh it's right now. Um [2:25:23, 2:25:43]: Again, uh they consider maybe uh residential, just a single family residential instead of multi-family uh as a zoning. Um and some brought up the walkability to the parts. Well there's a railroad track where it separates those uh unit from our units. Uh so I don't I'd say that'd be a safety issue for people walking from this new five vehicle route that cross-sun railroads. [2:25:43, 2:26:03]: to get Cock Park or to walk on down to the theater. And then lastly, uh on Please Africa Impact Study, um, where it signs are at the amphitheater, I know East is down and things happen there. And I believe it adds a whole lot of extra stress coming down East Atlanta Road up to through Valley Road as well. That's my concern. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Go ahead, name and address please. [2:26:06, 2:26:22]: I'm Stephen Bradford. I live at Two Orbits for sixty four years. Uh I mostly my concerns are basically what Mike's got, you know. Uh cheap road is horrible when a train comes. You live in that gate and you won't get out away. Wow. [2:26:23, 2:26:24]: And they just [2:26:25, 2:26:25]: Uh [2:26:26, 2:26:27]: You know, I don't understand. [2:26:27, 2:26:29]: Thank you. [2:26:30, 2:26:32]: Am I allowed to ask a question? [2:26:32, 2:26:40]: Well come in. You got a lot of time. Uh you put a question you need to ask, you're gonna ask and we'll see if we can get back up later to that question, but go ahead. [2:26:40, 2:26:44]: I'm really concerned about that people and close to the railroad and they're good there. [2:26:44, 2:26:46]: And our children don't want to go to the park. [2:26:47, 2:26:48]: But they're road tracking blame. [2:26:49, 2:26:49]: You know. [2:26:50, 2:26:51]: It's that jury's waste. [2:26:52, 2:27:09]: Uh and I just don't I don't see where the the planning for that many people with jewel at Clover rail track includes not being able to thank you. Thank you. Yeah, sir we'll railroad track we'll talk we'll address that. No, so the clerk of Clara. [2:27:10, 2:27:23]: My name is Joyce Andrews, I have it tool and up north Star, Tibetan. Been there thirty-three years in Big Oulus. And I'm not real happy about I've been here in so many kind of complex. [2:27:23, 2:27:27]: Object of obvious and especially well they hear load. [2:27:27, 2:27:32]: If you've ever been there, it is traffic GMR radio on Valley Hill Road because the rail crossing. [2:27:32, 2:27:37]: And it's not their design to have that anything. So I'm I'm against this. [2:27:38, 2:27:43]: Not in favor at all. Okay. Thank you for your commitment. Next lady, please commit address. [2:27:47, 2:27:50]: Say going to Tian Oaks, North Stoppers, Georgia. [2:27:50, 2:27:51]: Uh. [2:27:51, 2:28:11]: due to transformation. Uh got enough on Valley Hill certainly and on this road. I believe that most of the people coming from the youth vision will be exiting Davis. It's all impossible at times now to turn on thirty two from this road. So this will make even worse. Uh schools I believe will be able to handle additional students that will have um [2:28:12, 2:28:13]: Nobody's [2:28:13, 2:28:19]: Um also I'm concerned about removal of all the trees by the railroad tracks. You can hear the trains. [2:28:20, 2:28:29]: A lot. I mean we can hear this building. I can hear it in a house off of Davis road. Once they remove the though they're gonna be putting these buildings up, I don't believe it's gonna be sufficient. [2:28:29, 2:28:33]: No, I oppose. Okay, thank you. Sir, any minute, please. [2:28:35, 2:28:51]: Thanks for hearing hearing me. My name is John Reith. I live at 150 Days Road. Um, while I agree with Rogers and I agree that we don't want industrial park there, I am concerned about the volume of what we're putting in the area infrastructure that we have currently. I invited I see a constant [2:28:52, 2:29:12]: flow of people walking down the street, no sidewalks. Sidewalk start 42 A.N. Once you get past the trailer park section, there's no sidewalk on that part of the road. So I'm not sure how people are gonna come down Davis Road to go even to the or to even go to the amphitheater. We're talking about Easter Land. You go over you past public sidewalk ins before you get now what's [2:29:11, 2:29:25]: developed or not, this sidewinds there's you're gonna have to cross over a busy highway on what little sidewalk there is there. Um rains, it floods streets because the uh pipelines and the district aqua already there, you're gonna clear property there and you're gonna cause more runoff and rain the area. [2:29:26, 2:29:28]: Well thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [2:29:29, 2:29:33]: Uh yeah. Two. Come on. Sir, please. Thank you. [2:29:34, 2:29:35]: Mm-hmm. Name and address, please. [2:29:35, 2:29:55]: Thank you, Councilman. Church Bear and decided that one set over call north. And uh I hope that the council does consider the saturation that's already taking place in this area. And I know it's belongs to someone and they have a right to do something with but yeah. The Disney is is uh number one. Well let me go with the traffic. It's uh it was described better than the addictive. [2:29:55, 2:30:13]: On the yeah, I am thinking at an o'clock night it might be. But it's uh usually it is not. Uh but they so we have cons and the track is difficult and this won't be compounded. Okay. Also, you know, reducing the number of um uh reduce uh the number of uh units from [2:30:14, 2:30:34]: Then reduced the decrease. Seems like you know, reducing it to double is not much of a but you know, if this is I had I realized that this was a zone flight industrial and um as [2:30:34, 2:30:37]: [9038.3, 9058.3]: Um keeping in line industrial than rezoning it to multi family. We have the density and the um the develop throughout this area and we w are is already exceeding capacity. You see in a whole lot of of open space uh semi um. That's to hit him in a bit, but I would imagine also we'll give a few lymph you know [2:30:58, 2:31:18]: Okay. I'll be as brief as I can. So but yeah, the station of development we already have, and there's an awful lot of in space. I'm not inclined to think that uh could be very, very wrong. Uh a developer would be inclined to make put another giant warehouse, you know, uh but would that be more desirable? [2:31:18, 2:31:31]: more than 150 residents uh uh uh added to this area when we're already choked from a traffic standpoint. I don't know how the infrastructure handle uh the current air infrastructure that we handle what um what we add but it just [2:31:31, 2:31:51]: uh you know we're saturated. And and I hope that the the council does consideration to that that like, you know, there's not that many trees or groups of trees that's that hasn't had something done with it this area. And we can solve this and and I'm very much against adding it a hundred at home to this area. Appreciate it very much [2:31:51, 2:32:11]: Okay. Mr. Gardner and the gentleman that was called the transportation, could you back to putting place? I forgot the else could you cut to vote for carefully. Um part of the uh I would say one thing that I want to mention passing that deals with the trade itself and the zone. Mr. Gardner, come on please. Uh the five zone that we need to be finalized and that involves safety or safety procedures in this aspect as well for three costs, both north and south and middle. [2:32:11, 2:32:26]: down down. And I believe our T Splash when we talk about these will be part of the process to to send past to make it a little more able to trans transfer a walk a bike and the total design area to try to connect everything but be helpful for this well. Assuming I was thinking about anyway, um on that note, um [2:32:27, 2:32:32]: Sir, c any other things that you need to emphasize in referring to transportation starting to come to reemphasize your point. Yeah, so don't go with Gardner. [2:32:33, 2:32:39]: So we were looking in our diligence. So nice would also design an operational actively managing signal. So [2:32:39, 2:32:42]: [9162.6, 9182.6]: The old traffic design were installed. So one thing that we notice is during preacher, it doesn't look like there's any type of tension on the west side of the train track. Also, pre routines have changed because we changed traffic signal software about four or five years ago. So we have more flexibility on what we call correction of of split allocation. That's just how much time is getting to movement. We have capabilities now. It's just your phone, you update your phone, you have more technology in your phone now. [2:33:02, 2:33:22]: You'll allocate that time in a more efficient manner. So that's changed. We know that it hasn't changed since the old cigars plan in the past, the new software. So we have access to that data. Um, we talked about some of these splash lands, you know, been in multiple splash lands, not updates to the newer software. So one thing that we've talked about was it could be efficiency gained by adding that detection on the west side of the tracks so it doesn't call a gap out, turn knock people out. [2:33:22, 2:33:42]: out. Um we looked at intersection and the um traffic counts that we performed counts in August this year. So this is an old counts, these are new and schools. So we did an author sometimes I'm sure you don't get them in a lot of what everything was clearing one cycle. Specifically the hill road, you know this is again less C, so this is adequate per and the user dot standard G dot standard as well service C or [2:33:42, 2:34:02]: Or better. So that's a correlation to how long vehicles are hanging. Even with the product trips, um we're not saying of a change to Q length. We're looking at one, two cars, any peak period of this. We're looking three years into the future. Again, we use conservative backgrounds, so kind of worst case scenario. The one thing I want to point out is the site layout, and I mean it's a natural, natural effect. If you look at it, we think the south. [2:34:02, 2:34:05]: sedm to the north and they're roughly equal in this layout. [2:34:05, 2:34:25]: What's what's great about that is we're distributing that traffic in a man we know that we're gonna go back to East Atlanta Road to hit because of the type of roadway it is and the amount of it carries. So the amount that we're actually adding to Al Hill Rough take carries about seven to eight thousand vehicles compared to Davis Road, which holds about fourteen hundred vehicles. We're only adding a twenty to thirty vehicle in a peak period to Valley Road. So the movements are not not drastic. When you start leather movements, [2:34:25, 2:34:45]: Um the less than one vehicle of queuing. It's an indicator of extreme label. We know that keeping people off the track is key. Everything looks good on analysis and in the field and pulling the um this for operational data as well as the design data for the industry. Mr. Thank you, sir. Anything at all? [2:34:45, 2:35:05]: No sir. Sir, I just want to double check with you. You good? Okay. I I click here itself. It's false. What goes with those kind of comments account? Yeah. One of the things I've always that we uh and I both told each uh district representative, I respect that they take the lead. So when we come to co meetings and we ask developers to make changes in their amendments, then it puts all [2:35:05, 2:35:25]: But in this case with this property here, I would say counselors when you deny uh the zoning, they can't come back for another year. And with that year, anything coming there for warehouses. So there's a compromise to be made with this developer. I would ask council to be able to make adjustments with the thing back with the compromise that's too to you because we [2:35:25, 2:35:45]: We don't make a decision today. This stuff's never one size fit all. It never is. But we do our best to make it more amenable to what is what you all want in your community. And and if we deny it, it's some of you all are saying, I don't want to be true down the road. It's saying, I like C development development, but I like to see this and see that. So maybe uh because I I heard that as mentioned um in this [2:35:45, 2:36:03]: You we don't ever want to put a developer in a position where now they're wanna then they gotta come back in a year. But I think the compromise for us to where they would compromise development. I think that we should I would motion table this and bring it back to the council uh and sit the developer to have a compromise then and then how you want to develop. [2:36:03, 2:36:23]: Okay. Mayor. I just know what you're saying, Tom. I also have some concerns because when I heard Mrs. Tinney speak, she spoke and I asked specifically drop down to hundred and fifty six from two hundred. They have uh it seems like and maybe she can come up and tell us how this has so far, see there's some type of negotiation back and forth and agreement. [2:36:23, 2:36:43]: Also another agenda item um which is move from two feet requirement to twenty-five feet. I'm thinking there's some give and take there. If if the if we don't move, what is that gonna cause a reduction of of homes? My concern is ensure that we get the peace property um [2:36:43, 2:36:57]: But coming up how many of you and no S is now add how many of you chapter just in the era has been happening there. Because if we don't do if we want to prove site, who's to say lambes or anything taking place? So I tomorrow's coming about land with house. [2:36:57, 2:37:00]: So now no make it sill and there's nothing we can do about it. [2:37:02, 2:37:04]: We're gonna make some negotiations, some changes. [2:37:04, 2:37:06]: Mm those changes [2:37:06, 2:37:13]: Ain't gonna be done tonight. Unless you haven't had that opportunity to negotiate. And Miss Tinny, if you don't mind if you can get that for me, I appreciate it. [2:37:16, 2:37:36]: Councilman, we have we held a voluntary community meet, write our phone allocation, and then at the request of the councilman, two additional um town hall meetings where we discussed it as well. And we did stuff items that we did negotiate the first time. The gate request come uh there was a request for some speech bombs because Councilwoman Barr mentioned she believes that we will become an access for the top. [2:37:36, 2:37:56]: entire development. So I think in order to achieve uh slowing traffic um instead of speaking and protection of the community, we will be willing to perfect I'm trying to mold too much. Um since the committee of Annister do want to give the council of information that you make a decision based on um for plan application. Um but if I think a gate would help to to [2:37:56, 2:38:16]: Two of the requests have come some additional security fill as well as slowing uh the possibility that coming uh through road. Um but otherwise, there are several things you'd like for me to go to the list now of the things that we did just negotiate? Okay. Sure. So um one of the things that Wesreaks did [2:38:16, 2:38:36]: was in the area at the top in the original plan. It was cul-de-sac there. Uh there was a question about being able to loot that for continuity. So we did make that change to that through that process. And because we knew it was a request to get closer to 150 units, we did reduce some units. In fact, the original design that came back here today still had over a hundred [2:38:36, 2:38:56]: Mixed units, even with Lean Dunn, specifically called the engineer back and asked him to remove additional units to add some open space and get us into one piece. Um as well. Um we also had a question about buffers. So uh along the railroad track side, the buffer um of the entire site is required to be 25 feet. [2:38:56, 2:38:58]: So [2:38:58, 2:39:18]: to the back property line closest it I'm sorry to the buffer line is one hundred feet then you have twenty five foot and then you have a twenty foot rear set back for each one of the yards so that's forty five feet and then one hundred feet at um first point to the road track. So we did not add an additional buffer there because that's pretty simple you have a hundred and [2:39:18, 2:39:38]: There was a question about putting a fits there. We are have a plan to leave that buffer unserved at additional land gap because again that is along East Atlanta Road. So it would be pretty heavily planted along. We did not think that a fence would be the most aesthetic look or the comment that came as well. [2:39:38, 2:39:41]: [9586.2, 9587.0]: Yeah, cheese a little bit. [2:39:48, 2:39:49]: Yeah, that's what she's in. [2:39:53, 2:40:13]: For she's looking for all concerned questions that I too. But now mm-hmm. So there was a question about the clubhouse. Um the obsidian square foot and we provide an emission over uh total over two thousand foot feet for the clubhouse. Uh we were asked for the track impact study by the track engineer that the recommendations were very [2:40:13, 2:40:33]: Minimal. Uh, I did felt point out earlier there are these links on both the entrances that's one of the commands there just to pull out traffic as they're turning into community. Uh there was a request with the variance setback uh that requested to make it 35 feet instead of 25 feet. We are respectfully requesting that it's a variance to 25 feet. Uh a townhome development in the county would require a 25 foot setback. [2:40:33, 2:40:53]: And most of the jurisdictions are 25 feet. Your zoning that allows for town home development is a multifamily zoning. And so that is a 50-foot environment there. Uh is that multifamily developments and that town development consistent with town industry centered home development and those jurisdictions around you is a 25-foot front sec. We also are aware of the precedent that was set recently for another development. [2:40:53, 2:40:56]: Town home development also has a twenty five foot front sack. [2:40:56, 2:41:15]: Uh we were installed a maximum total percentage to include that in HOA governing documents and have that five percent and step percent, we've agreed to five percental cap. We were about having um the monument along Valley Hill Road to connect to the park upon the um regulation. We determined it was not a at least with our evaluation that we could within a week that connection. So we did not do that. [2:41:16, 2:41:31]: Uh discuss the pump and the cul-de-sac. Uh edible landscaping. So one of the things that we were asked to do is include edible landscaping. I saw your browse kind of so edible lab is like berry trees or apple trees or something like that. Planting is a hardwood that some of the trees in development would be edible landscaping instead. [2:41:33, 2:41:53]: And ask to relocate some of the guest parking to center development. Uh so I know this is kind of far off from you guys, but there is parking that is right at we were able to addition parking on the northwest side there. There is guest parking at the amenity there. There is guest parking straight down that main road valley hill entrance. There's guest parking on the left side over there as well. And then there's [2:41:53, 2:42:06]: There's also a guest parking lot on Davis Road and some additional guest parking spaces on the outside of that. So guest parking is throughout the project. And we were able to add additional spaces around that amenity area bell. So we have a total now of uh four guest spaces. [2:42:07, 2:42:20]: Thank you. And uh Mayor comment is part of this uh nothing with you, but uh actually for me in regards to your comments, so thank you. It sounds like there have been some negotiation that have taken place. Um my I her comment that [2:42:21, 2:42:38]: We can change it, change it to single family. And that's something I want to discuss. That's the exact what we said earlier, some councilman eleGantt. We could have a developer here who has fought an application to reduce drop down from light industrial to a a a a multi resident. [2:42:38, 2:42:41]: If someone came in if someone w purchased too simply [2:42:42, 2:42:48]: And we would had opportunity for that tonight, but that's not what's being. We can't do that. We can only [2:42:48, 2:42:53]: vote on what has been applied for. If we don't vote tonight, [2:42:53, 2:42:58]: And it's and it's and it's uh label and it's remains the same, the light industrial. [2:42:58, 2:43:01]: That's what we're trying to say. We can't wish I could. [2:43:01, 2:43:04]: I wish I I wish I could, but we [2:43:04, 2:43:06]: I don't we don't have that right too though. [2:43:06, 2:43:07]: And so [2:43:08, 2:43:08]: Yeah. [2:43:09, 2:43:12]: With that comes trucks, comes all kinds of things. [2:43:13, 2:43:30]: And it didn't do. So I'm what I'm saying to you is we can't I wish we always hear it all the time. I'm not in the neighborhood. We want an apartment complex. We don't want towns. We don't want we hear it all the time. But there's a a difference can and cannot do and if we were like this today, tomorrow someone could be building a warehouse on it. [2:43:31, 2:43:32]: That's all we're saying. [2:43:32, 2:43:33]: [9813.7, 9821.3]: Thank you. Um actually uh the idea or suggestion was made during the community farm um requesting that homes built instead. [2:43:41, 2:43:43]: of high density multifamily. [2:43:43, 2:43:44]: Development. [2:43:44, 2:43:48]: That's one of the questions that I submitted to you because you already answered during the forum. [2:43:49, 2:43:59]: Certainly something that I would sort, but however I cannot sort Mr. Um there was no negotiations. In fact, what I sent were concerns and additional uh conditions to consider. [2:44:00, 2:44:06]: Those were sent Miss Hogan to be I expected to receive answers from those concerns and conditions. [2:44:06, 2:44:09]: Proxy today. I didn't get response until [2:44:09, 2:44:10]: Today. [2:44:10, 2:44:13]: I want to be able to review them and of course negotiate. [2:44:13, 2:44:18]: However, uh based on what I'm hearing now, it sounds like my councilmates are already making a decision. [2:44:18, 2:44:20]: For my district, once again. [2:44:20, 2:44:20]: So [2:44:20, 2:44:36]: What I have said just based on the concerns that were expressed by the presidents who attended the two community forums I hosted, um, of which I thank you, Ms. Hogan, for taking the time to meet with us and share your proposal. Um, one of the concerns, of course, appearance thirty five feet. [2:44:36, 2:44:40]: This one was the Mac Rental percentage. I know that in our code um there is [2:44:40, 2:44:42]: Um ten percent rental. [2:44:42, 2:44:42]: Um [2:44:42, 2:44:44]: Yes, that you reduced at five percent. [2:44:45, 2:44:48]: The third one was the Corn Monument along Valley Road to Nextwood Park. [2:44:49, 2:44:49]: Um [2:44:49, 2:45:09]: And I don't know what your responses were. I got them today. Um decrease the density in a hundred units. You just explained that it wouldn't be feasible to all. Um install speed bumps or posts to slow down the vehicular inside of the development, because that is gonna turn into through road. I can see that now. The railroad crossings. Um [2:45:09, 2:45:10]: [9911.2, 9911.7]: Um [2:45:12, 2:45:18]: I uh removing the cul de sacs. I thought there were three or four or buildings that were there. Um [2:45:18, 2:45:21]: I see that you removed those buildings. [2:45:21, 2:45:25]: And the call back into connect the two roads, but it looks like it's at those units. [2:45:25, 2:45:34]: Somewhere within the development so it didn't decrease the amount of units. Um asked to remove move those six units closest to the rail tracks. [2:45:35, 2:45:38]: The one all the way to the right looks like it's [2:45:38, 2:45:39]: Six. [2:45:39, 2:45:41]: Um those weren't for me it looks like. [2:45:42, 2:45:42]: Is that correct? [2:45:44, 2:45:53]: Additionally mentioned during uh the community forum about the edible landscaping. That's a great idea and the homeowners want to keep that. Um to install a fence along [2:45:54, 2:46:00]: Um decide where the rail crossing is, in addition to the uh cheese as a buffer. It's for safety. [2:46:00, 2:46:01]: Measures. [2:46:01, 2:46:05]: Also to increase the buffer to hundred feet along the road tracks. [2:46:06, 2:46:13]: I ask that you get so that it's not on the end of units. I ask that it be in the center for the development so that yes when they come. [2:46:13, 2:46:14]: Then I have to walk one end. [2:46:15, 2:46:16]: Uh, that wel. [2:46:16, 2:46:17]: The other is um [2:46:17, 2:46:18]: Whoever's on visiting. [2:46:19, 2:46:19]: Um [2:46:19, 2:46:22]: You add additional pardon. Uh well let [2:46:22, 2:46:23]: I want it. See and [2:46:24, 2:46:27]: Well one scene was being center throughout the development a short [2:46:28, 2:46:44]: Um certainly any off street parking and us with five feet at back, that's certainly what it's gonna do. There will be on parking, especially when there's a distance for guest parking. They're on far end of the building. But my house mates, um, since they're gonna support you also you don't need my support. But I want the homeowners to know I did the best that I could. [2:46:44, 2:46:47]: I brought plenty to our community forum. [2:46:47, 2:47:07]: I wanted to hear from you all. The community form was a way for the developer to come in to share their proposals. And I do have concerns with current zoning in industrial. That's the reason why I decided to hold a second community form so they all would understand the current as it currently is. Um but I did the best that I could. I'm hoping that my council will consider [2:47:07, 2:47:08]: Yeah. [2:47:08, 2:47:10]: Continuing to go development. [2:47:11, 2:47:14]: That area of Valley Road and Navy Road has um [2:47:14, 2:47:16]: Red interposes this year. [2:47:17, 2:47:23]: It is under consideration rolling infrastructure improvement plan with funds allocated. I can't support you. [2:47:23, 2:47:30]: Any development because how to put a road and infrastructure plan that includes Road and Davis Road. [2:47:30, 2:47:41]: That's the bulk of Maastricht. So please. So what was before actually a comprehensive plan amendment, okay? [2:47:42, 2:47:47]: [10067.9, 10087.9]: That that warehouse would be. You understand. You you you understand because you don't understand the reason that they chose location for the warehouse is because next railroad tracks. Those are called inland puts where the train stops and unloads their cargo at the warehouse. They yes, certainly. Yes sir. Yes sir. They chose that location over your car next to the warehouse. I'm just I'm uh [2:48:07, 2:48:08]: Yeah. [2:48:09, 2:48:29]: They have a shit of all the tractor trailers coming to your community. But see what's the reaction for you? And they need to speak anymore. Okay, this is about complex. This is about complex. That's right. Okay. [2:48:29, 2:48:49]: out for the structure of ten home delivery. That's what we do to vote on out. And if that approved, move on to the next step. All right. So you're a motion to accept this comprehensive amendment. Yes ma'am earlier Councilman Blount made a motion to table. There was a but no second I didn't make a motion. I suggest that we do it but when we talk about the number of units, uh you talk of three meters that put the community and the [2:48:49, 2:49:03]: and if you drop below uh 150 units, you can't put up a house suggested for the property. So you know, just like I've told everybody, it's no one size fit all project, any project that comes in. I'm not motioning I suggest it that way. [2:49:03, 2:49:12]: Do it. It was second this motion was seconded. Excuse me? I'm I'll make a motion to make a motion to approve. Okay there's a commission. [2:49:13, 2:49:19]: I have a second. Okay, this uh miss uh uh gas second motion. All favor, please. All posed. You oppose. [2:49:20, 2:49:40]: Three, one, you hold to sustain, is barber. Okay, so three two pass. Now we'll move on to the next one. Okay, three two motion passes. Result zero two three two four. Multiple family reservoir zone district to property by back here to allow for construction of a agent is the representative Tiffany Hogan. Property representative. [2:49:40, 2:49:58]: Number S 16-0100600K at land lot sixty nine of T 12 and tains twenty-four point acres within city starcy limits. Okay, and so Mr. Ryan is before us again. Uh okay, you press a deferral uh November 13th now some present nine, Mr. Ryan, please. [2:49:59, 2:50:06]: Okay, I'm gonna go all that. I and for the sake of time, I'm gonna cut my presentation short and just uh read the staff's uh now recommended approval with conditions. [2:50:10, 2:50:11]: Okay. [2:50:11, 2:50:18]: This is a rezoning talking about this number twelve rezoning. I'm number number ten. I'm sorry, I'm ten. Number ten, rezoning. [2:50:19, 2:50:22]: Well you can put it on here. It's not on here. [2:50:26, 2:50:39]: Uh right through the presentation. Okay, Mayor, I moved that we approve the re the um rezoning to assign the F Rony District to Property Five Valley Hill Road to allow construction of town development. [2:50:39, 2:50:56]: Motion is made in a second. You're right. Well, it is a diff it is a different it is a public case. That's right. That's what you got, Ms. Um okay, I'm sorry. Very good. That is right. And the question to the was to uh our attorney. If we're talking about the same piece of property. [2:50:57, 2:51:00]: We're talking about the same piece of property. Does each subject matter? [2:51:00, 2:51:02]: have to have a bookier discussion. [2:51:05, 2:51:08]: Because we're we already know what people are forgetting. We've heard already. [2:51:09, 2:51:18]: I'm not I mean again and I'm not trying to say that I listen don't buy these tough divisions, but you you make them so the question is when you pee you have a property up here. [2:51:18, 2:51:21]: Like this subject matter. [2:51:21, 2:51:28]: We do public comments. Everybody's talking about we no one was for it. We did against it. They've already spoken against it. [2:51:28, 2:51:29]: Would it [2:51:30, 2:51:34]: Do are we required to have a public hearing? [2:51:34, 2:51:54]: Council and clerk on to matter the norms. Never mind. Two people talking. My report would be yes. Let us refer to the I referred to. And although what is although it has been advertised that way in future I'm sure [2:51:54, 2:52:09]: For procedural purposes. When we talk about a particular piece of property and we have to go and vote on separate items for that property, or we are continuing to have public comments after each subject. [2:52:15, 2:52:28]: It doesn't have to say you don't have to decide this variance and this variance is separate if it's noticeable the variance of the associated property, then that can continue to develop you back. If you all time have your hearing you all just test, but one appearance and all the matter. [2:52:29, 2:52:30]: Yeah for [2:52:32, 2:52:35]: Okay. At one point they're having to do it individually over and over again. [2:52:37, 2:52:38]: I think [2:52:41, 2:52:48]: Okay. So basically the future when we talk about a particular piece of property wants public com they to comment. [2:52:48, 2:52:50]: That's what time we'll have to go through. [2:52:50, 2:52:54]: Who in the middle? Who's in a one time their opinions and discussing appointment? [2:52:55, 2:53:00]: That I just wanted to make sure because it seemed like we're we're done and we're definitely have to go over and over again. [2:53:01, 2:53:19]: Yes, ma'am. I just need patients. Because I can't mention that there was additional information that she would discuss when she got to be clear. Well, Ms. Holiday, let me clarify for you, as a real estate attorney, that what I'm trying to say is when we have a public hearing on any piece of property. [2:53:19, 2:53:36]: Yeah, when we have it, the mayor can announce and discuss each item prior to he can say we're gonna do this and this little piece of and so we have one public comment on against, not on and item eight, agitum item nine, because we're still talking about the same part. So it gives everyone an opportunity to speak that [2:53:37, 2:53:42]: That one we are gonna drag this thing out over and again. For the most part. [2:53:42, 2:53:52]: Everyone's gonna talk about the same thing, whether or not they were against this. Whether it's about the you put the request on on on how to be set back or whatever the case may be, it can be done in one setting. [2:53:52, 2:54:12]: Okay, got it. Ms. Hogan, you pass a couple of the mic, please. What I walked during your present initial presentation mentioned and you mentioned that you had some additional comments to make in your presentation when we get those different points on the agenda. Now some comments you may already made based on other information that came. So what I'd like you to do is I like you to go back to your presentation and go back to we're talking about zoning. [2:54:12, 2:54:20]: Highlight results highlight now, so we go through this process. And I say may it may take some time, so but we're gonna go through this process because what she initially indicated when she came up to the brief the first time. [2:54:21, 2:54:32]: So Mr. Bingy's statement idea covered most of it with questions I've asked. Uh particularly with going through the items that uh were requested as a result of the meeting. I'm sorry, I don't want to mess anything up here. [2:54:55, 2:55:01]: Do you need help with this? Uh someone needs to get to that pre back to your presentation. Yeah, they're coming up here. Do this now. [2:55:03, 2:55:08]: Okay. So I'm currently saying it's not letting me close it up any other way. [2:55:11, 2:55:13]: You can hit that'cause I don't have a version there, so that's fine. [2:55:14, 2:55:15]: Right. [2:55:16, 2:55:21]: Oh pardon screen. Got it. Thank you. [2:55:28, 2:55:32]: And I think someone would address the reasoning and area at the same time so that we can't move over. So I'll address everything. [2:55:39, 2:55:59]: Okay, uh so we are now looking at the rezoning and variant applic Oh, sorry. So we're looking at rezoning the variant applications to clear the light is currently light industrial and we are seeking a rezoning to multi-am residential as you've heard the evening. The thuks site is here with the star on it in the purple. So you have that little bit of light industrial there and then again everything else has turned to residential around here yet. [2:55:59, 2:55:59]: Yeah. [2:56:00, 2:56:20]: This is a lot typical of what the lot would look like. So we wanted to be sure to show this because we're required to reduce the variance to feet. So there has been some concern about the driveway length. Again, it is a par garage unit twenty-four feet wide. So people will have two parking spaces in their garage and then an additional two parking spaces in their driveway. Even with the twenty foot one of the concerns was that the possibility of it cost [2:56:19, 2:56:34]: If people pull their rocks the way that they should and don't pull so they're hanging off of their driveway, which whereas we can't uh determine whether folks would do that, uh there is enough space to car to be in a driveway without them hanging over the sidewalk. [2:56:35, 2:56:36]: This is what the site currently looks like. [2:56:37, 2:56:43]: These are the uh image of what the homes would potentially look like. This is a actual development right of the two four foot units. [2:56:44, 2:57:04]: The community that we seek to develop with provide a community field with amenities to one of the things in your comp plan they're looking for in the area is to rise into the development community fields. In the main amenity area you would have swimming pool as well as the cloud, a playground, uh a foot multi-use path throughout and ten foot sidewalks on fence as it said. And then everything that you saw on that side plane that was in the green is also uh [2:57:04, 2:57:24]: Common space. I'm going to that side for just a second to highlight something that because all of the lighter coloring space we have intentionally left provided that be developed. Darker green, there is a creek that runs the site. So darker green is the creek and the required local state and federal required. We will not be into those buffers of criticism requirement by law. We will get a creek crossing from the federal government or [2:57:24, 2:57:26]: [10647.1, 10659.4]: While I'm on the side slide uh slide, I would like to highlight once again the additional parking that is added. It is through outside. It is not the one area. Uh so there is parking almost on every street, on every block. Uh you could easily walk to the residence. [2:57:42, 2:58:02]: This is an image of the clubhouse. This is indicative of the community that this one was built in. This is the one that was built. Uh it's the exact floor plan of the clubhouse that we will build, but the facade will be made to match the units of this committee. This will hold that is built at another, but it will put it in here. It has the mushroom kids like the player as well. The clubhouse also has outdoor scene areas, building fans up there. [2:58:02, 2:58:22]: and outdoor for folks to sit and enjoy. Again, variance we are seeing is from a 50-foot front setback to a 12-foot front setback, which is standard in the three four developments now. We also know that recently there has been another approval without reaching from 55 foot. Uh and that if this project were built in the county, it would be 25 foot. That was part for townhomes as well. [2:58:24, 2:58:44]: This would be and actually this light at the count from the last week it'd be one hundred and fifty six moms now, four four foot wide, two car garages, one hour or less walk from the stockbridge amphitheater. It also connected sidewalks throughout the in the front of the property. All of the units are three bedroom units throughout. There is an option for one unit on the end of each building to be a four bedroom unit. That is option. It can only be one unit out of the [2:58:44, 2:58:45]: And toppling the orbit. [2:58:46, 2:58:49]: Uh we're exceeding a spark, your code requires fifth aspect, we're providing four percent spec. [2:58:50, 2:59:10]: And again, the MIDI theater that we talked about. One of the great things that we really love is the company was fitted on the principle of had a dream of homeownship to folks. That's to this day with the coming reality, it's really important to us that still growth. Opportunity to take homeowners as well. [2:59:10, 2:59:30]: Closing cost, which right now is$1,000. We also have a home buyers club because we want people to be successful in home ownership and not just be able to purchase a home. So our homeowners club actually educates folks on not only increasing their credit rating to get their rates, but also making sure that folks understand all of the uh expenses that come with homeownership so that they hopefully are able to maintain their homes. [2:59:30, 2:59:34]: This is available to anyone for the safe charge, even if you don't purchase a DR home. [2:59:35, 2:59:55]: And again, we've been American owners since 1978. Just earlier year we closed our one home in Texas. There's actual video on YouTube. Mr. Horton himself sent folks with their keys and sold the house to him at the price open in 1978. They did not know that was going to happen. Our agents are sell are trained to sell to owner occupants only and not to investors. So that's very important, of course, in a town home unity. [2:59:54, 3:00:08]: So you don't end up a community full of individual investors. We also do seminars at local agents on new home construction first time buyers. That's not our agents, that's other agents. They understand what to provide to those folks. And again, we talk about Main Street Stars Incentive program and the home buyers clip program. [3:00:10, 3:00:12]: And every of our home is smart home as a standard. [3:00:13, 3:00:17]: That concludes my presentation. If there are any questions, I am happy to entertain them and Clay is still here. So [3:00:17, 3:00:37]: Council. Minister Br president. I just want to say this, ma'am. I appreciate everything that you've done. I certainly apologize the way that you were treated and that you had negotiated with us in and you made presentations, you've compromised, heard the residents, and uh you were told that no matter what you did, that would not pay the the resident from that district for it. Sorry. [3:00:37, 3:00:57]: That's not the way that we should be making decisions with uh forethought with what we want to make sure that we take everything into co into uh uh account and that we do what's necessary to make the best decision possible. So certainly. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I'm gonna deal with briefly now. That's what I say. So I'll open up the public hearing. Listen it. [3:00:57, 3:00:59]: But if my far sightful [3:01:00, 3:01:00]: [10862.3, 10879.3]: Anybody in the middle four? Four. Four to four. Re zone issue. Anybody on the right side? Four. Okay, anybody on the left side? Against rezone issue. Anybody in the middle? Come on up, line up this side on this side. Alright? Against rezone issue. Line up over here. [3:01:19, 3:01:20]: All right. [3:01:20, 3:01:25]: Now it looks like we're not for give ten minutes please. So come to the podium, give me a name and address. [3:01:27, 3:01:38]: No name or you see it again. Name Stephen Brad on Let me upload Georgia. Okay. Rezone initiative. Go ahead, please. And I am concerned that we have people here that are for this. [3:01:38, 3:01:40]: They wanna put this in backyard. [3:01:41, 3:01:43]: Have y'all done research? [3:01:43, 3:01:45]: Do you know what limit for roads? [3:01:46, 3:01:47]: Baboo Dave. [3:01:48, 3:01:49]: Reason. [3:01:49, 3:01:55]: There is no address me by the way. Address me. There's a reason there is no activity in that building. [3:01:56, 3:02:09]: Pop company left, free company left. They were not allowed to go on belly food with babies who completely out of question. So I'm not worried about fair house being built. They can't tear books in and out. [3:02:10, 3:02:12]: That's a priestness video image. [3:02:16, 3:02:33]: My name is Eve Brad. I live at two three o'clock, no thought rich. I worked for a mid-state range. We did not have a lot of traffic that could m out of there. We had drugs with big pipes, but that's all that could come out there. There was no big trucks coming in, no big drugs going out. [3:02:34, 3:02:35]: There won't be concerned. [3:02:37, 3:02:39]: Thank you, appreciate it. Next individual and the address is. [3:02:42, 3:02:51]: Good evening, James Chale, one of the land of stock crits. Thank you for allowing me to speak to the board and the mayor. I've heard Ben say at times, I believe he's on staff, that uh the staff is recommending that this happen. [3:02:52, 3:03:04]: But I'm sure the Planning Commission is made up of very many competent individuals down there doing concerting the fifty Valley Hill Road Pride and have recommended denial. I stand with the Pennington Mission as well as many of my neighbors do. [3:03:05, 3:03:08]: Thank you. All right. No no need platform, sir. Your name and address please. [3:03:11, 3:03:21]: Thank you. [3:03:21, 3:03:22]: Okay, blue. [3:03:22, 3:03:42]: The topography of this area not really can too light industrial. I don't I think it's uh an empty threat. Because, you know, unless we're gonna lord the uh raised road, it's uh you know, getting track trailer trucks is will be uh onerous if not impossible at this page. Based on the weight limits of of all the access roads, the accessing that area with a tracker trailer is [3:03:42, 3:04:01]: I as as a person who operates tractors, it would be possible to to actually pull a tra trailer up there. I I mean unless part of the plan is to lower the railroads, I don't think. And nor is the an likely than erase the road. It's a particular anti threat, the light industrial the uh a lush warehouse could be better at this point. [3:04:01, 3:04:10]: Okay, thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, no more comments. I'm no counseling motion to accept this reasonably. [3:04:10, 3:04:13]: Yes sir. [3:04:17, 3:04:23]: Is this the this the uh since this is going on so long? This is the rezoning with the requirements and the conditions of the [3:04:24, 3:04:29]: Yes, sir, but I need to repeat the um conditions into staff. Go right in. Go ahead. Okay. [3:04:30, 3:04:50]: Six conditions uh of approval. Uh first condition um rezoning is uh the rezoning should not be approved unless the applicants requested complaint amendments is is um is approved. Uh the rezoning should not be approved unless the variance is approved. Uh the proposed town belt shall constrain according to the design, which is similar to the one that's shown the applicant submitted site plan. Well, they had a revised site plan. [3:04:49, 3:05:09]: Plan was submitted today, so the date was changed to um November 13th, 2023. That's the one that's okay. Go ahead. Uh rezoning should not be approved once the unless the developer submits construction plan to Stockbridge Public Work Department June 29th, 2024. Otherwise determines their sufficient senator tool capacity to go to serve the whole building. [3:05:09, 3:05:28]: not be um unless the consumer traffic impact state which provide satisfactory traffic entertain data, which they did. The rezoning shall not be approved unless the applicant conducts an environmental impact which provides satisfactory environmental data. Those are suggestions. The applicant come back to the podium. That's good. Thank you. [3:05:30, 3:05:30]: Clear so. [3:05:31, 3:05:34]: We we had here we had the phone. [3:05:34, 3:05:48]: Your earlier. You can have one or look at all three of these issues. Yes, sir. When you vote going to singly vote on each issue, not all three of them at the same time. So one revenue, bezoning, etc. Variants, it'll be three votes. Okay. Okay. Ms. Hogan? [3:05:49, 3:06:08]: Okay, we we do we have the ten foot personality in the requirement here. I didn't hear the rip. That's part of the cycling. She's all right. Eight foot trails on the interior, ten foot on the exterior, and eight foot in the interior. Oh and it's position on that. But we also had a president set on Davis Road and on East Lana Road or gated community. [3:06:10, 3:06:10]: Shouldn't you [3:06:11, 3:06:17]: And I'm open to guess that b before. Um we do need to be cognizant of the cost that I will add, but I don't want [3:06:18, 3:06:32]: the gate to be something that will have us from move forward. I just think we want to be consistent with what we're doing. Everywhere we go, we net we had the same setback, we had the same requirements, Bon Stucco, certainly. Uh I wanna make a motion with this, the condition that consists be consistent with the other community with the gate. [3:06:34, 3:06:42]: So I'm not looking to the setback. We're not talking about setback yet. [3:06:43, 3:06:46]: So this this um you're good with that, you're gonna add in. All right. [3:06:47, 3:06:49]: Okay. [3:06:49, 3:07:09]: Um well I I don't know the the conditions I didn't see I had seen in years. Uh but I didn't know those conditions uh wasn't just long as the conditions everything understood what we're talking about pertaining to this. I just wanna make sure whatever we do on the night conditions are put in there. Sir could you make a motion please? So yes, yes, that's [3:07:09, 3:07:10]: [11232.6, 11244.4]: agreeable to five percent rental cap as well. Uh that was one of the things that was on the list. So she's asking should we call that second sh I'm that well add the five percent rental rental cap as well instead with agreeable [3:07:25, 3:07:45]: Is there a second? A second. Okay, any further discussion? None. All favorable please? Okay. UFA? So three zero three zero one. Right. Okay. Now, so we got got to should be total seven different uh eight lists. Eight. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I can learn how to count. All right, eight. All right. Uh so now what we have left uh also is the various case. [3:07:45, 3:08:05]: Coun council district four council consideration of the request of the various property fifty five Valley Hill Road to Left Town Home Furtherances allow the reduction front or setback from required fifty feet to twenty-five feet in MFR Mobile Family Residential Zoning District. The property represents parcel number sixteen-looking land line sixty nine of discount and it can [3:08:05, 3:08:25]: Text 24.96 start received is approval. Plain commission is denial. I'm gonna of course request a deferral to number 13, which is a nice uh meet. Mr. Ryan, please. Okay. I'm not gonna go through all the cyclines, just gonna get to the to recommendation. Staff recommended um approval with conditions. Um uh there are development hardships on property and [3:08:25, 3:08:39]: And uh we have two cases that we recently passed security that approve a twenty five foot um setback for our day go project and a three foot project uh foot front yard setback for two zoning events. We want to exist in zoning and staff remnant approval. [3:08:39, 3:08:49]: Okay. I'm trying to do that. Mr. Srian, I have a question. In regards to recommending the approval for fifty to twenty five [3:08:49, 3:09:04]: What's reasoning so? Um based like a pre like a little um there are developmental harsh property. Um some reason I was zoning um has a fifty foot standard with an industry standard town home, it was twenty-five feet. Um and [3:09:05, 3:09:15]: Another reason why we d if um it did not the uh variants we would neglect what we just did we were uh because we can uh the approval of the results and the complaint contingent upon the variants. So it wouldn't it would uh [3:09:15, 3:09:35]: Neg negate everything we just done. Oh, that's my made a few minutes ago. I was like, wait a minute, don't put the content of the variance within right? Yes. Okay. So I made that statement. In in addition to I could do thirty. Okay, I do thirty. But I I have concerns in regards to the setback. Okay. Right? Will it [3:09:36, 3:09:39]: Cause more [3:09:40, 3:09:56]: car all over the road. Well, um no, because in their site plan they added additional guest parking. They added a lot of guest parking. Uh sixty seven guest units. They would be centralized inside out. And uh their covenant will will not allow for uh on street parking. So it would be prohibited. [3:09:56, 3:10:09]: And like I said, if you um look at um all the other zoning ordinances within this within um most of 25 foot front yard set back requirement for our townhomes, there might be 54 apartments, but it's 25 industry standard for townhomes. [3:10:09, 3:10:26]: And I preach industry standards, but I'm stockbridge standards. And so my standards are gonna be just that. I mean, for goodness sake, agreeing to Eblin's captain. Right. So I have my own standards. Not and and those are the requirements to make sure that there was adequate parking lot. And I think that's okay. I would be okay with three. [3:10:26, 3:10:29]: Oh but uh Council Member's okay. [3:10:30, 3:10:33]: Come quick uh typing going back to Paul is. [3:10:35, 3:10:41]: So that becomes any question. If you you just give one minute, um I will see and you can answer. [3:10:45, 3:10:52]: And the reason that because engineering as I'm texting as Ryan said, topography in this, um and Ryan, do you have light plan here? Maybe helpful if we can show. [3:10:52, 3:10:53]: Yes, it's true, man. [3:10:54, 3:10:59]: Is still shows the same areas that I can point at oh okay. [3:11:04, 3:11:07]: Perfect. I'm gonna revert back to not though. [3:11:08, 3:11:28]: So this is actually the top survey of the site. So as you can see, there's just a nip drop as you go down the site. Um and also because it's actually cut soft. So this is the gray area is the area seen close to that creek. Really dark squiggly line is the creek. The way that the drop is, it will be um pretty difficult on a lot of these lots in order to have a um front yard setback that is. [3:11:28, 3:11:42]: Fifty feet for sure. Thirty feet, I tend to see it would make sense for the additional five feet because that site plan is based on a twenty five foot setback. So once you start moving that that ships the sidewalks, the units, everything go round. [3:11:43, 3:11:44]: Okay. [3:11:45, 3:11:56]: Based off of whether or not we fit a hundred and fifty homes within that the site plan. With our plane owning team. Our our department, our plane department. But I would I would prefer at least [3:11:56, 3:12:00]: Um understand your standards. [3:12:00, 3:12:11]: There's also things, reasons and and ways to think change. Whether we bid in roads are we now bid in our sidewalks to you know, to have these wide trail paths. So there's always room for change for me. I I'm room for but I'm also [3:12:12, 3:12:23]: Um hearing when the constituents when they are concerned we wanted at one fifty house units with fifty-six. I get it. [3:12:24, 3:12:25]: Yeah. [3:12:25, 3:12:26]: Having you know, snipbacks. [3:12:27, 3:12:30]: It was if we did it in the first place. So I'd I would [3:12:31, 3:12:32]: Uh maybe live early. [3:12:34, 3:12:54]: You gotta say you are reduced from two hundred to one fifty six, which means that you you redu that the two hundred was three five foot setway, right? Yes. So you reduce something thirty foot. I mean, I know you don't know the answer to that word per se, but I think if we made a motion and said uh basically we would ask for thirty feet, engineer allowed thirty feet that you would compile with that. [3:12:55, 3:13:04]: So what I would say is that it's not as simple math as you take those six units out to get the one. Don't say engine engineering showed that it was feasible to do thirty, you would do the third. [3:13:05, 3:13:20]: Yes, under how we make that a condition. And also to Ryan's point from earlier, their first tension with the rezoning is that the side plan. So I don't know if Okay. So that takes care of that. And I guess for the conditions if it's feasible with the engineer thirty? [3:13:21, 3:13:22]: Yeah. [3:13:23, 3:13:25]: If it's feasible, we could you'll have to do it. [3:13:27, 3:13:29]: Don't know how to address it at this point. We don't. [3:13:30, 3:13:31]: There were condition touches only. [3:13:31, 3:13:34]: Right. I mean the condition says if it's feasible that you would have [3:13:36, 3:13:46]: I can bring it to Ryan Future mics. Brian, if you can get to the make you want to speak. Just got an answer from the engineer. We can footstep there. Thank you. Thank you. All right. [3:13:46, 3:14:05]: Yeah, uh Ms What if we what's what size other roads what's what's the length I do a three foot other than a twenty five and it shortens the streets because I'm concerned about emergency units. What's size now? Is your standard uh when we did the pre application meeting the year was on there? Is your standard twenty six or twenty eight here? Twenty eight, it's twenty four twenty eight. Okay, got you. So we just make sure that's exactly what the three foot. [3:14:06, 3:14:10]: We will have to meet your requirements for your streets because well, I get now there won't be public streets because I get it. [3:14:14, 3:14:25]: The privacy now just going on railroad tricks. So they'll have to be a twenty sixty five fire cut. Yeah that's what they exactly twenty six feet. [3:14:26, 3:14:37]: Are you quickly for Okay, so again, we'll do this process for actual public carrying for the variance, for the variance. Anybody have left that's right, left side, for anybody in the middle for yes variants. [3:14:38, 3:14:40]: [11680.6, 11700.6]: Okay. Anybody against variants? Anybody against this variance on the left? Anybody in the middle? I'll speak against this. Come on. You stay on the recognition. But in the middle, uh wants to speak about the variance. I guess anybody on the right side. Okay. I'm not sir, you're up. [3:15:02, 3:15:11]: Yeah, it's a question. Okay. Then counsel Don Smith, Five One Townsend, Stockbridge, Georgia. Okay. My question is about the gate. [3:15:12, 3:15:12]: Gentlemen here about. [3:15:13, 3:15:14]: We'd be in the gate. [3:15:14, 3:15:30]: My question on gate is you said it's more inclusive, keeping everybody in the recipe. Okay. The genus is more exclusive. This is exclusive. Also, is it going to be a private street or public street? Because if I'm paying tax and you have a gate that tells me I can't go through there. [3:15:31, 3:15:35]: Now my hands. Anyway, that that's the first issue. The issue is experience. [3:15:36, 3:15:37]: Having done. [3:15:37, 3:15:41]: First that architect, retired, let's registered background. [3:15:41, 3:15:43]: Worked at Jersey, Philadelphia. [3:15:44, 3:15:45]: Handle all these types of cases. [3:15:46, 3:15:52]: When you start making real private, now you have a level that people have in that immediate gate area. [3:15:53, 3:15:56]: We don't feel safe having to go through there. Finish the walk. [3:15:56, 3:16:00]: Because you've not given it exclusivity. We get closing down. [3:16:01, 3:16:01]: And do that. [3:16:02, 3:16:03]: And we're still paying taxes on that. [3:16:04, 3:16:05]: [11765.9, 11768.0]: Is it now private? Is it [3:16:08, 3:16:08]: Right. [3:16:08, 3:16:14]: That is that has to be taken into account prior to using when there's because I want to pay taxes on an area that I can go into. [3:16:15, 3:16:19]: Got somebody possibly harassing me. I still belong here, do you live no, I don't. [3:16:19, 3:16:21]: But the taxpayer will go through here. [3:16:21, 3:16:22]: So that's my [3:16:22, 3:16:42]: Thank you for the coming president. Okay. So that that's what comes here. You go ahead, sir. Uh in any community, anytime you put up a gate, those roads become private roads. Those roads and roads they have to have air, they have to have resurfaced. Anytime gate any community, those roles become private roles and not because they're not um to be used by the public and negated. [3:16:42, 3:17:02]: Then there are private roles that are gonna be maintained. Uh they count to the city uh six months for any repair or whatever on that it it becomes a private role. Uh on that note, um council we I need for variance. I've just agreed 30 for variance. We need a motion to accept that. Is there a second? I second Ms. Gantt second from Allen and Mr. I'm fairly case. Okay. So you have some city's got four. [3:17:02, 3:17:06]: All right, let's move on. [3:17:06, 3:17:26]: Company KC two three uh zero four council district number two been written a request for a compass of plan amendment to change the future land use design of three parcels parway and walkway from low density vertical use to high residence to allow for mixed residential development. The advocate is uh D. R. Horton, land east presented by Miss Uh Tiffany Holden. Uh [3:17:26, 3:17:46]: Parlando listed below in the landlock fifty seven of district twelve with seven nine point one six total acres parcel number zero three zero zero one zero zero nine zero zero contains seven three five number zero three zero zero one nine five contains three point six three six acres parcel number zero three dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero six contains one point three acres staff recommendation [3:17:46, 3:18:06]: Planning commission recommendations denial. Applicants are requested to the firm on November 3rd was the night. Oh she wants to go back Adam Timidy uh to do that being uh item fifteen. [3:18:06, 3:18:12]: [11893.0, 11902.1]: So um I I hear that would it be acceptable for a representative from a community from the Home Association to speak to every Western African? [3:18:23, 3:18:37]: Why uh well Jesus I guess you just can counsel for that decision. I know how the citizens for community plays into this. That's why indicated that the reason for the referral is to speak to the commun to the community, is that correct? [3:18:39, 3:18:41]: In the driving scenario. [3:18:41, 3:18:57]: Okay, so if the request is is part of the request is to speak to the Homeowns Association big president, then seeing that maybe appropriate. Now I don't know. Um she may not be wanna speak. She's the mean the meaning um the people we with today with the representatives from Mary. She's the meaning of that. [3:18:57, 3:19:07]: I I'm okay with that. Is I was gonna just give them enough to d to weigh in on it. But personally I'm okay with it personally. Well, how about I was gonna spot the t the table until when? Tell ne till the month? [3:19:07, 3:19:21]: How long is that? You want to take the summary eleven meeting then motion you do that and uh and then what have so what a minute. I was like council mentality. I'm okay that I I will make motion if someone has not I'm I'm okay. I'll vote in favor. [3:19:21, 3:19:34]: I heard a motion, I heard a second. No, motion is not basic. Well, uh mayor and council move that agenda item fifteen sixteen be deferred to the December eleventh meeting. Yes. [3:19:34, 3:19:52]: I second. Okay. I'll give Ms. a second. All favor please indicate. Okay. Okay. Okay, got so four votes. That's good. Uh we'll come back on December eleventh, uh, Tiffany. Okay, seventeen. First reading proposal, FY twenty twenty four, operating budget opposite. Uh mister Mr. [3:19:54, 3:19:55]: Uh symmetric. [3:20:01, 3:20:03]: Sound five city manager plus [3:20:05, 3:20:06]: No sir. [3:20:12, 3:20:13]: Uh [3:20:19, 3:20:21]: Can uh determined? [3:20:24, 3:20:26]: This is garbage. [3:20:26, 3:20:29]: First reading the poll, L I twenty four operating capitalists. [3:20:41, 3:21:01]: Good evening, customers. Uh tonight uh we have the first read budget budget presentation. Before you should have a copy of the budget again as part of your package. Um but I gotta read uh 10 slides. And as you go along um with the next read and adoption, I'll uh probably uh make some adjustments and add some slides to it. But um first of all, we'll send the twenty twenty budget. Um there are no post-fee increases for uh trades building. [3:21:01, 3:21:13]: permits um our plan reviews, no increase in utilities, water rate, sanitation rates, cost home water. Um we can see that there's no risk enough for this upcoming year when we know we're gonna have those out next year. There's establishment point seven seven misery. [3:21:14, 3:21:34]: Um top conditional service in the city to include police and public works. Uh there is uh pus additional police requested for the budget. We are also requesting a four percent cost delivery adjustment for our employees. We haven't had they haven't had one three vehicles, but it's like um we do have road improvements and sidewalks part of our budget uh and it's gonna be funded through our spots and general fund and [3:21:34, 3:21:36]: As well as warns to infrastructure improvements continuing. [3:21:37, 3:21:57]: As I mentioned before, uh if you go back to where the city was by nineteen eighty nine, you'll see how we roam. Most of the people sitting in this room on our count moved here between two thousand and two thousand ten. And and Thabbridge had one of his highest growth rates. If you think we are there at thirty six thousand six hundred, our next spike in growth is gonna take us somewhere around fifty one. It's gonna be the next [3:21:57, 3:22:04]: generation of homeowns to move and develop into the city. And as we continue to need to look forward that future growth not with us and start trying to plan for it. [3:22:06, 3:22:20]: The five twenty three twenty-four budget is projected. Remember this is predicated on revenues always. Are you looking at revenues, not expensive? Revenues is going to be a and then you work to have the expenses around revenues. So the three point seven twenty six point seven million five twenty five. [3:22:20, 3:22:22]: Jaska vaan siihen. [3:22:22, 3:22:28]: So you see that there was no quality tax in 2022. They had about 1.2. That was the transfer foundy. The services they gave us. [3:22:28, 3:22:48]: Um and then receivable budgeted six point seven million for that. We do an increase in our loss, which is predicated also on our growth. You will set in the FY24 budget altar you see going up. And as remembered it also working right now because based on our growth, we'll have opportunity for one or two more package doors. And we want to get those in based on our population, we get added additional package. [3:22:48, 3:22:50]: Um [3:22:51, 3:23:11]: Um no. Um pawn shop or standard effect. Based on your evaluation, you get to add additional. No. And then the UFP's that brings us to twenty six twenty seven um projected revenues. Quick jump phone highlights. Um uh person between what we budgeted and all of these numbers obviously because it's in our fiscal year. [3:23:11, 3:23:31]: They are unaudited and will be adjusted as we go forward. But we projected about 582 for um a government budget. And that includes us looking at banking that's trips um to DC as a while lobbying which we were successful again over um two million dollars, three million dollars as part of the appropriations uh under the cust bill this year. Um and as you go through, you'll see that this includes. [3:23:31, 3:23:48]: increases and some decreases in departments based on and those are slight adjustments obviously from the previous year and our expenditures at twenty six point seven actually matches our so there is out at that point which years we go through and try and manage the budget so we have opportunity savings it would then do the general fund. [3:23:48, 3:23:56]: Under twenty four budget, we are looking at um stopping roughly the same. The additional stopping is gonna come with oppositions being requested by public seat officials in the police department. [3:24:01, 3:24:20]: Under our general fund capital breakout, um, we're going to look at spending some different monies in the police department with the flock cameras, additional flock cameras, several new cars, some repairs, uh other equipment and uh public works making some sidewalks improvements, development strips to two hundred eighty eight hundred and fifty. Um with a combined uh general fund of one point five million dollars. [3:24:21, 3:24:38]: Overall, uh and this is we gotta remember this maintaining for all of our capital improvements we have to for those all majority superclicks that are gonna be four two splits on actually in our general fund. So sidewalk improvements and obviously still uh plus six which will come up for a vote as we come to the end of Splus five six plus. [3:24:40, 3:24:44]: Overall funds budgeted uh sixty one [3:24:45, 3:25:00]: sixty one million and remember about nineteen seventeen million of that splash plus funding um LE funds the a confirmation I'll see through the SPLOS program. So we might set that out to be right somewhere around forty something as a week as a split. So we don't close N Splus budget drops considerably the loss of Splash revenues. [3:25:01, 3:25:02]: [12302.5, 12317.6]: Okay, quick so Mr. Blonde, you had a question? And this is for the read, so we still hope the next reading, second read will be November twenty eighth. The adoption of the budget is advertised for December e December eleventh. All right, Mr. Blank, go ahead, please. [3:25:18, 3:25:38]: So with the refund, obviously that'll come off that comes somewhere for REMs. But also you gotta refrain fact that there's gonna be both as the seventy service come online, those actually increase would be on here. We just haven't estimated w how many those subdivisions because we don't know as they come online. But as you know, um D my right next to this will start probably selling units under FY twenty four. [3:25:38, 3:25:54]: How many? You also have the apartments that are line that Mr. Grant just talked about. Those are gonna come online today. But we don't know if it's gonna go online, but we'll actually get similar stuff. The day for development is actually coming. [3:25:55, 3:26:00]: Review right now after get the C that there'd be some off between would give out and um tax and the um [3:26:01, 3:26:19]: The sanitation rate. And remember that's only the last X one year. So we see some growth, probably offset the the payout of those. We'll see some offset there. When we when should we uh see that we're advertising for people to follow that? I think that's already correct on this. Is it we ready advertising for the sanitation rebut? [3:26:20, 3:26:21]: Yeah, we have a time. [3:26:22, 3:26:23]: I'm sorry. [3:26:24, 3:26:26]: Can I poll in best please? [3:26:30, 3:26:46]: It was announced in Henry Hill. It's also posted on the city website and uh it's gonna social media point that I I received all day from a residence about that they were applying its clarification on the proposed rebate between the three so people are informed and they do know it's like I said article today. [3:26:46, 3:26:51]: Those actually pull off all of that. Yes. Okay. [3:26:53, 3:26:55]: Yeah, but for Mr. [3:26:55, 3:26:59]: I just have a comment. I'm very much now interested in bringing um [3:27:02, 3:27:02]: Per me. [3:27:03, 3:27:09]: We were bringing some information to you guys um at our next meeting later and some cost analysis did but [3:27:09, 3:27:13]: Think we'll be able to run the side if we're able to move in that direction. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [3:27:13, 3:27:25]: No other questions. Thank you, sir. I guess uh we'll be looking forward to uh second reading. Yes sir. [3:27:28, 3:27:31]: Oh Mayor. Hello, sir. All right. Yeah, the presentation in front of you. [3:27:32, 3:27:33]: [12456.5, 12476.5]: I think we skip over just a little bit, even with the first read is considered a public hearing. So I think we'd have to actually ask if there's anything on the pose FY budget. All righty. Uh uh Paul, thank you very much. Okay, anybody from our far left side is uh in uh favor of the for the first public hearing over the budget from this year from the left side. [3:27:56, 3:28:02]: Anybody don't far right? Anybody on my sixty that's good comments from far left. [3:28:02, 3:28:08]: Right. Oh guess. Okay. Come on up, please. Name and name uh address and get himself right. [3:28:10, 3:28:30]: Oh my name is Ann Fields. My address is 329 Chase. Marion Ray McDonough. I um I just had uh request the point about um you're establishing a three seven seven milit is that the signage for the stuff stockage tasks, correct? Or so you're just reestablishing that for what's been approved. Okay. And um you're resting a four percent cost. [3:28:30, 3:28:30]: Just mm. [3:28:31, 3:28:33]: Within the documentation that was presented. [3:28:33, 3:28:35]: The four percent cost of living increases that [3:28:36, 3:28:37]: For the workers or [3:28:38, 3:28:43]: And my last question is they presented two million in and two million out on the alligator, so it was a wash, there was no revenue. [3:28:45, 3:29:05]: I don't know I don't know about two million, two million now. So the amplifier is funded at is projected funded at two million dollars that we pay into it. Right. Remember because we had a retreat. No companies, no these events do not always make with a communities. They're like pox and recognition. You want the pox of creation to actually the intrinsic value of the community. That's why it's built. [3:29:04, 3:29:13]: We had that guy. We're two million dollars for operations at the end of I24. Thank you for your time. Okay. [3:29:13, 3:29:18]: Public hearing is now closed. All right, then uh no need for motion, I think could another reading come. Okay, Mr Becker. [3:29:19, 3:29:39]: And new business we'll talk about homestead exemptions. Yes, sir. If you would flip over the title page, the second page. Yes, sir. Let's talk about the process due to the home exemption. This month, the next mall is maybe muscle. Can choose the cafeteria of of uh various homestead exemptions, what you might like you won't. Then um we work with city attorney to come up with uh resolution for you to approve in the legislature to uh adopt. [3:29:39, 3:29:41]: [12581.9, 12598.5]: The legislature meets January twenty fourth, twenty four, and ask bill each homestead exemption to pick four to be full bills or six to be bills. Governor has the june thirtieth necessary to sign the bill. November fifth residents will actually approve or not approve homestead exemption. If you would turn to the next. [3:30:02, 3:30:09]: January through May of twenty five, residents will apply for homestead exemptions. July twenty five, you'll digest for twenty-five and set your millage rate. [3:30:10, 3:30:26]: Uh digest will deduct the total pay of those exemptions. And so your three point seven seven will bring in less money uh than the this year by the exemptions. In December twenty-five, mayor and council will collect taxes and the residents would actually get the break property tax from whatever homestead exemptions they've approved. Turn to the next page. [3:30:27, 3:30:30]: [12630.4, 12650.4]: You see L one is regular homestead exemption in in Henry County that the in an owner occupied house, no matter what their age is, if file for a homestead exemption, they get four thousand exemption from any military rate levied by the state, fifteen thousand by the county, zero from the school board counseling outland. Heard you mention they got twenty three bills. They don't offer a homestead from their school bond. [3:30:50, 3:31:10]: On the school M and O, they offered 4,000 for home exemption. And the school two is 62. You can see the exemptions there. L three is 65. See the exemptions there. L 6 is 68 and older. You can see the exemptions there. L9 70 and older. See the exemptions there. L 12 will be totally disabled under the age of 65. And go to the right, these exemptions are automatic. [3:31:10, 3:31:15]: They're um in place by George Legislature. You can see the ex amounts they change every year, but the legislature approves. [3:31:15, 3:31:20]: And so you actually howl these home settings no matter what you do, because it's by predate law. [3:31:20, 3:31:21]: Turn to the next phase. [3:31:23, 3:31:28]: Here at the cafeteria of uh exemptions, um I have put together along with his staff. [3:31:29, 3:31:30]: Uh L one, the regular exemption. [3:31:31, 3:31:36]: There are three thousand three hundred eighty eight homes in the city of Stockbridge that get the Henry County exemption. [3:31:36, 3:31:42]: If you offered uh ten thousand, you see the county's fifteen thousand, put ten thousand there for you. [3:31:42, 3:31:45]: It would reduce your taxes by one hundred and seven thousand dollars annual. [3:31:46, 3:31:47]: You can see the neck down. [3:31:47, 3:31:54]: Age sixty two, the hundred and ninety tombs in the sea lips of college park. And by the way this includes the annex Air Well, sir. [3:31:55, 3:32:01]: What'd I say? I'm worried now by beat I know you're worked more than you. [3:32:02, 3:32:22]: Stock bridge. So age sixty-two, Henry County offers fifteen thousand. There are 192 segments bridge. 10,000 what we've prepared for host exemption. It would reduce your tax burden by$7,238 sections. You can see the L three sixty five, there are two hundred and seventy-six present that will qualify for that based on the uh amount that qualify for the Henry County. [3:32:22, 3:32:32]: Exemption ten thousand uh exemption there and just all it's exemption is if you had a hundred thousand dollar house, it's assessed four percent, forty thousand, you would deduct these numbers from that four thousand dollar figure. [3:32:32, 3:32:34]: So it's a deduction from the assessment. [3:32:35, 3:32:53]: Eight state, one hundred ninety six there, fifty thousand there. Uh you had asked or own SIC tank. There are no cities or counties or school boards such an exemption. We put that in there and there's some data that the city has that there are four hundred twenty seven homes in City of Stockbridge that will get that. Eight five thousand, it'd be a eight thousand reduction exemptions. You all c can choose [3:32:54, 3:33:01]: Numbers if you want to go up down and then I can I have an Excel spreadsheet we'll spit out what the numbers be. Age seventy thousand and ninety eight residence stockage. [3:33:02, 3:33:06]: We have a twelve five thousand dollar exemption for A seven D and older it'd be a hundred three thousand dollar reduction. [3:33:06, 3:33:13]: Then totally disabled age six five three five, there's sixty eight resistance operations. We gave twenty five thousand of them at sixty four hundred dollars reduction. [3:33:13, 3:33:16]: And then the ones below are the ones that are automatic based on the state. [3:33:17, 3:33:21]: And so you can see that annually it would three hundred seventy five thousand dollars reduction [3:33:21, 3:33:31]: in the taxes that you would collect, I think I or three seven seven mills up at the top you can see where it brings six million eight hundred and eighty two thousand. So you would take three hundred and seventy five thousand off of that. [3:33:31, 3:33:47]: As you change these exhibition numbers, you make them higher, then it'll be more lower it'll be less. That's mayor. [3:33:47, 3:33:58]: So fifteen thousand is what currently gives. Fifteen thousand is what Henry County currently gives for that exemption and the manager and I just picked ten thousand for you. There's no magic. You could pick fifty twelve or more or less. [3:34:00, 3:34:13]: And part of our assess was and you all set the miller seven seven mills at real skinny amount. And so you already gave all the residents, no matter whether they had a home dead exemption or not, lower millage rate than the last would get. If you remember we recommended a higher amount. [3:34:13, 3:34:21]: Yeah, I I got the but she's gonna look at Henry John Ray. I wouldn't like the uh post that on the case. So just put the exact number in [3:34:22, 3:34:39]: Like I've said before, you when you bring citizens into the city, they got all the tax interests with the county. I understand it but they we invite them, but it just becomes uh interesting when now they're paying uh for an area they didn't have to be that makes any interest. [3:34:39, 3:34:45]: So I'll run where we make your exemptions exactly equal what county gives. Not to what number is. [3:34:49, 3:34:50]: While I'm doing that, we can take other questions. [3:34:51, 3:34:58]: I I don't know the question right now, I gotta s you know, kinda read this and kinda stick it in a private device or question full a little later. Anyway, Mr. Zanguy, sir. [3:34:58, 3:35:18]: That my point is keep us we set the millage at three point seven seven, which is the lower possible. So certainly uh what may end up happening is we certainly wouldn't want to have a re vote to raise raise taxes uh after sitting the millage at three point seven seven. So might be vote to um'cause'cause given everybody [3:35:18, 3:35:29]: Basically homestead uh exhibition with a three point seven lowest rate possible. Might it be possible to just uh maybe apply for it and then not have it apply until maybe the following year. [3:35:30, 3:35:44]: Yes, sir. Mayor. So uh councilman Blount I went in and gave the exact name stock bridge which is a county down at seventy and totally disabled. I lowered those twenty five thousand dollars to fifteen thousand dollar amount and all that total now is forty four thousand versus three seventy five. [3:35:47, 3:35:48]: Yes, sir. [3:35:49, 3:35:51]: Okay. [3:35:55, 3:35:58]: With East because brought in some minutes from the [3:35:58, 3:36:04]: from the uh uncovered areas that release off what they've already been using. That's how it gets quite [3:36:04, 3:36:07]: They're paying well a tax. [3:36:07, 3:36:09]: But they didn't have all the VS stuff. [3:36:10, 3:36:25]: And think that with with the amount that you're talking about. Uh it's a fact that it's lower than I thought of. Me too. That's why I hope I would hope I would hope that this council would have been a member to to actually bring the amount at the same [3:36:25, 3:36:38]: uh footprint of this if a more blueprint will be channel uh that would be the future argument for anybody to say hey this is the same foot blueprint that you're dealing with economic before you came to see the doctor. [3:36:38, 3:36:47]: I would like to have this council, either in November or December, actually approve what said exemptions are so we can ask legislators to get started in January. [3:36:47, 3:36:55]: All right, so what I guess so it's on us so I guess to whether or not do it later on at work sessions month or do it the at this eleventh uh meeting that we have but we're gonna face now. [3:36:55, 3:37:10]: Well, Mill, um I think that there was a a wish put on the on the Conservative Council feels that we should match everything that Henry County matches. Then realized that that total other than what was recommended by us was four hundred and four versus three hundred and seventy five. That's the wish of council. Um [3:37:11, 3:37:31]: It's roughly twenty seven twenty seven dollars. So if that's the we'll put we'll we'll put that up um together and that's what we'll send to the state for them to ratify and if they do put on the November ballot twenty twenty four and effect twenty two five. And what we'll do mayor is prepare a resolution with city attorney that had you approve a resolution. Right. [3:37:31, 3:37:51]: Legislation. It wouldn't be in effect in twenty twenty four in the right. So that's my thing. I know we're talking about you know a hundred thousand dollars. That's a big that's a deal with what we are in terms of uh [3:37:51, 3:37:51]: Well. [3:37:52, 3:38:12]: Well, i if you if you do it four hundred thousand as a percentage of your overall budget is very is low below percent overall, right? Um percentage um but uh point eight percent. Well three point seven seven was uh was basically a balanced budget though, right? And and and I and yeah, and so understand that if [3:38:12, 3:38:17]: But now back in a deficit. [3:38:17, 3:38:19]: So you'll have deep data in it. [3:38:19, 3:38:20]: The the new [3:38:21, 3:38:24]: Well you can f you talk in four. [3:38:24, 3:38:29]: Right. But what I'm saying is whatever you boot, is it three seventy five or four four or five hundred [3:38:30, 3:38:38]: That's predicated on values being out times the military. If those values stay the same or drop, basically danger in the economic risk, your president's election next year, right? [3:38:38, 3:38:42]: And based on the skill of a economic change and outlook. [3:38:42, 3:38:56]: But we're talking next year. Mayor, if you don't mind. I just want to make sure that you understand whatever you want to do. But I understand it, but what what but what I'm saying is if we can stand up here and we can prove this and approve that, we can pay we pay seventeen thousand dollars last week for license. [3:38:56, 3:39:16]: But we're talking about something like homestead exemption that especially the citizen we brought in. And then but we only we're not talking about four thousand dollars, we're talking about two thousand five thousand dollars on top of what was already present. No, so this is what was recommended that five thousand is not there currently. This is just our recommendation. Right what I like to think about if I can quantify for you in terms [3:39:16, 3:39:36]: terms, four hundred four thousand is equivalent to point two two mils. All things being the same, if you grant the exemptions, you need to go up from three point seven seven to to whatever three point seven plus point two is. But the reason I'm the reason I'm saying this because I thought that three point seven seven meals was all staff to to drop the trash. Not saying that, you know, not in [3:39:36, 3:39:52]: And the l what I mean about whatever spending that we have, that we we we we remove that and we look down the line on everything and pertain to spending staff members we uh whatever we need to do. That's what I thought it has to do. Mr. You got you got to I was kinda going. [3:39:52, 3:39:56]: Okay. [3:39:56, 3:40:11]: Yeah, yeah. Uh until council and as we grow or we exceed the number. I I keep wanting this council to understand you have equal income, you will add people and new things to the city. You will not be raised in twenty twelve or two thousand. [3:40:11, 3:40:14]: Keep an eye on you on your way to fifty thousand people. [3:40:14, 3:40:22]: The city is growing. The wants and the needs are different from where they are today compared to where they were a few ago. When I moved here in two thousand, Paul Stevens could be a loaded I want. [3:40:22, 3:40:23]: Two years [3:40:24, 3:40:42]: Indeed prepare. That's gonna happen everywhere as time goes on with our development. I just want to keep the council. Yes. We certainly keep the residents on it and it's up to the council to determine which one that's when we move forward with as the council we do take that home example. Yes. We do have rent who need that relief and and obviously to the city. I hardly I just want everybody to understand there's a cause and effect, right? [3:40:42, 3:40:45]: If you if you give them citizens this your degree should should happen. [3:40:46, 3:40:48]: Recognize that that comes off whatever top you collect. [3:40:49, 3:40:51]: Whether it's un or ten percent, you give it back. [3:40:51, 3:40:53]: That's it. [3:40:53, 3:40:56]: That's gonna back into the road. We'll increase those ex somebody do. [3:40:57, 3:40:59]: Right. We see a a rise of digest. [3:40:59, 3:41:00]: And date schools. [3:41:00, 3:41:01]: Really road back. [3:41:02, 3:41:06]: Or you can still give more to residents. Those those options are gonna be open to us as we go forward in time. [3:41:07, 3:41:13]: But yes, they need the reliefs. Whatever that relief is, we'll work with that numbers, recognize doesn't correct. [3:41:13, 3:41:25]: This year then take back twenty four, th those tax exemptions take effect in twenty twenty five. That's when they come to fair. I'm gonna agree with you on and I understand that and I get it. But [3:41:26, 3:41:28]: Every year that I've been on. [3:41:28, 3:41:39]: I have s waste in the butt. I've made a recommendation. I see you shaking your head. That's no, I agree, but y you could just not every in this council know that. But we have chose not to cut Blount. [3:41:40, 3:41:40]: They at least. [3:41:41, 3:41:43]: And last year the year four. [3:41:43, 3:41:52]: I ran over a million dollars in saving and cuts, but we we didn't do that. So I'm just saying that media equal up to the satisfaction for both. But I'm just saying. [3:41:52, 3:41:54]: We waste a lot. And and [3:41:56, 3:42:03]: You're right. You know, you could go in any budget f find what you potentially see as waste. About what this council understand. [3:42:04, 3:42:19]: You own a private business. Business is a public business. You buy services. Yours public business goes. Yeah, and I'm gonna agree with you. I really do. I just wanted I s I wanted to make sure I say this in on the record because I want to make sure you heard what I said. So and we But the council, as you know, once [3:42:19, 3:42:20]: Were you four months? [3:42:21, 3:42:23]: We got if you have any recommendations, please send them to us. [3:42:23, 3:42:27]: The budget was in the council in July. We went over the uh August East. [3:42:28, 3:42:29]: Budget retreat. Well you don't mind [3:42:30, 3:42:32]: But and and this is one other thing I was [3:42:32, 3:42:37]: If we want to be the against the Rodwells and the Alfred and so forth, we want to be able to make it a little better. [3:42:38, 3:42:40]: I I play as council academies made up the budget. [3:42:41, 3:42:43]: This part is Julian Montpellier Winnie, it's done. [3:42:43, 3:42:47]: They've gone through the cuts, they've gone through the process, and they come to the read of the budget, you don't see the bunch of numbers. [3:42:48, 3:42:49]: Coloque o virou um bonito. [3:42:50, 3:42:51]: No sound your comment. [3:42:52, 3:43:12]: Let me just say Mr. Blount, I agree with everything said. I'm not opposition to anything you said. I certainly support it. Uh I want the home stakes if you come, but I did want to make sure that we made a point that it leave somewhat of a hole there. But certainly I'm gonna vote for every opportunity to give the citizens uh relief uh that they ask for. Um in defense of the city of Durance Council vote [3:43:12, 3:43:17]: Everybody can make suggestions, but we vote and we have in order to ratify any change. So he makes a [3:43:17, 3:43:37]: Thank you for putting the budget together, but we have to have three vote to approve any any changes to the budget. So we have to say we have to accept whatever there is or whatever the changes is because three votes vote to approve the final budget. So any of us have to get consensus among our group. So incident puts the budget together, but we vote uh three of us to approve it for any change. [3:43:37, 3:43:39]: Correct. [3:43:40, 3:44:00]: Yes. That's how it works here. So I might make some suggestions many of us make suggestions. We gotta have three votes so that it may happen. So thank you. So asking for this is to come up with not we just gave you a resolution and we don't forward for so for approval or send approval and whatnot, and that is going to be at end of the work session this month or that in December. We can bring in the work session. We have enough time we can make things necessary. I mean we literally did the spreadsheet. [3:43:59, 3:44:17]: Okay. Yeah, yes sir. I would like to see uh if any way possible to have those numbers ones of the uh Henry County because it's not that big of a difference in in it in the function. [3:44:17, 3:44:18]: With half a hand. [3:44:18, 3:44:20]: I'd I'd go back to [3:44:20, 3:44:26]: Yeah. Uh you know, it's a task standard to make that happen. [3:44:26, 3:44:33]: Uh if it's it's not enough, it's fifty thousand over then we save fifty thousand dollars square a year. We c and cut the home that is. [3:44:34, 3:44:54]: All right. So comments. Let me read so thank you gentlemen for that. 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[3:46:14, 3:46:25]: past Friday, which was the tenth, which is a Marine Corps birthday. So fantastic time enjoyed the entire weekend across our area in reference to other and meals and and vanity that they had to honor the service, like you may say. [3:46:26, 3:46:46]: My comments to COVID nineteen flu shots. Still need to get those COVID nineteen uh booters and take your flu shots since we're in the win months now. And happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Please enjoy uh Thanksgiving holiday with your families and Mr. Washington, your stump sir, because I think I'm session. Just very clear, we did give uh we won't give you all a C D A um agreement. If already it's ready to go. [3:46:46, 3:46:55]: Okay. So you So we can vote on it? Is ready you've already proved it, James McCain? Okay. We can vote on it now? Yes. [3:46:56, 3:47:07]: The city might develop an authority agreement. Council Gamp had some suggestions and changes that she wanted to incorporate in the document. We were settfully able to incorporate those council to consider that now they have the ability to do that we also would on today. [3:47:09, 3:47:13]: So it's all follow on that one. But those those are past that you are beginning immediately. [3:47:14, 3:47:19]: What was uh motion made? Second. Okay. From okay from uh Mr. Blanc to Mr. [3:47:20, 3:47:36]: Oh okay, see now's decision is done. Okay, thank you, sir. On that note session, so I need to end our okay. A second. Okay. No more. [3:47:37, 3:47:40]: Oh well it's like a second man. [3:47:40, 3:47:42]: We don't have to if you don't want to. [3:47:43, 3:47:43]: We can do that. [3:47:44, 3:47:48]: What uh if I don't think we have anything to talk about from ask for a motion in the meeting. [3:47:49, 3:47:50]: Okay, move to adjourn. Is there a [3:47:52, 3:47:53]: [13673.8, 13679.4]: I think once I think the managers and since you all did adopt that he's warning about transfer property pursuant to the grant. [3:47:59, 3:48:13]: The Is that that excession topic? It will be executive session and um I will say that I've spoken to the um executive session to do that. I did spoke with the agent of the um potential buyer. [3:48:13, 3:48:17]: Um do want to set up a meeting with me and Mr. Lance and probably Miss Um [3:48:19, 3:48:35]: And Michelle. So it might be might be preferred for us so we can tell the twenty eight service the outcome of that meeting and the agenda. So we could read we can read and tell that. Okay, more information that would potentially want to do that. I know we didn't move the journal meeting. [3:48:36, 3:48:39]: Author cleaning the gate, but we're not gonna cover the ships. [3:48:40, 3:48:41]: We're good.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2023-10-30 source: 2023-10-30_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:12:46, 0:12:57]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, uh let's get started. I have uh let's see here, six oh two. I'd like to call our city council work session um Monday, October thirtieth, to order. [0:12:59, 0:13:02]: Invocation, Carrie Stevens, could you come forward please? Please stand. [0:13:07, 0:13:08]: Evening. [0:13:12, 0:13:13]: City Council. [0:13:13, 0:13:25]: wonderful city staff and city residents. I pray that we will have a successful meeting in all the business that we are attending to this evening. And I also pray for the citizens of the Atlanto region. [0:13:33, 0:13:50]: Amen. For the uh for the pledge of allegiance, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:13:50, 0:13:52]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:13:55, 0:13:55]: Yeah. [0:13:56, 0:13:58]: Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Present. [0:13:58, 0:13:59]: Alexander. [0:14:01, 0:14:10]: But the record reflect Councilman Alexander is not in attendance. Councilman Blount. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have [0:14:11, 0:14:20]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Uh Council, I'd like to uh have a motion to amend the agenda to remove item number six. [0:14:21, 0:14:22]: Item number six to be removed. [0:14:24, 0:14:26]: Some moved. Okay, is there a second? [0:14:27, 0:14:30]: Mr. Blount Secondat. All in favor, please indicate. [0:14:32, 0:14:39]: Okay, thank you very much. Znamus on that aspect. And then I received a um a email message earlier today and I believe you all got it as well. [0:14:40, 0:14:53]: uh motion to amend the agenda to have a uh uh for state representative Angela Moore to have a Christ Christmas event here in Stockbridge. Is there a motion to accept this to attitude agenda for discussion? [0:14:55, 0:15:01]: So moved. I second. Okay. From uh Miss Gantt to uh Miss Barber. All in favor, please indicate. [0:15:02, 0:15:22]: Okay, so what we'll do, we'll put that item at number six. We took number six away and we'll put the and in place of that we'll put this item uh for this particular discussion of this Christmas event. And uh at number six. No item number six. I I switched them out. Okay, on that number. [0:15:22, 0:15:25]: Note, I need a motion to accept the rest of the agenda, please. [0:15:25, 0:15:45]: Mr. Blount, I think a second. I second. Okay. Okay, I saw Ms. Barber's hand. I'll give it to her in a second. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. All right. Now on that note uh review of the minutes, the remove of the minutes of September eleventh, twenty twenty-three, the council um meeting we have. So we got draft minutes there as well as the council work session. [0:15:45, 0:15:57]: on the 26th. So take a look at those. We'll approve those at our next uh monthly uh council meeting. If there are any changes or additions or things that need to be done, please talk to that with the clerk. [0:15:57, 0:15:58]: On that note, uh [0:15:59, 0:16:01]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:16:02, 0:16:19]: Okay, thank you very much. Uh we'll go to a consent agenda and that is a resolution support the award of a D D uh RLF application by the Downtown Development Authority of Stockbridge for the Downtown Project located at 132 MLK Senior Heritage Trail. [0:16:19, 0:16:31]: And this is on behalf of the uh Nola Bri uh Briscoe and Dacri Bar L C and I believe that uh Miss uh uh Kara Harris Braggs will be d giving that presentation. [0:16:34, 0:16:35]: Yes, ma'am. [0:16:37, 0:16:45]: No n no I'm not, but is there no, I'm not moving it from'cause I have no intention to do that. I mean I I didn't know whether or not she needs to get wife called [0:16:46, 0:16:46]: Okay. [0:16:49, 0:16:58]: All right, no problem. Appreciate appreciate you asking. No, I'm not gonna remove anything at this point. I mean the items there, I don't know if any council have any questions or not. If not, we can go ahead straight to to a motion to approve. [0:16:59, 0:17:01]: So moved. Okay. Is there a second? [0:17:03, 0:17:03]: Is there a second? [0:17:04, 0:17:10]: Second. Okay, Mr. Alexander second that from Gantt of Gantt to Alexander. If there are no questions, then all in favor please indicate. [0:17:11, 0:17:14]: Okay, opposed? Is it unanimous? [0:17:16, 0:17:23]: Is there a presentation? There there is not a not necessarily. If there are only qu I asked if there are any questions and there are no questions thus far, it's on the consent agenda. [0:17:27, 0:17:28]: Right, okay. [0:17:29, 0:17:29]: Right. [0:17:29, 0:17:32]: Okay, so Mayor Ford, I have a question. [0:17:32, 0:17:48]: What's your question? Well uh well what's your question? Go ahead please. This item has been placed on the consent agenda. This is the first time that I've um been made aware the council has already discussed this. I was not aware of it. So that's why I'm asking. [0:17:55, 0:17:58]: the application that was submitted to the um Department of Community Affairs. [0:17:59, 0:18:11]: for a downtime involving loan fund application and it was actually approved by the um state that they would be able to receive this um funding from the downtime involving loan fund. [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: And now it is a requirement from DCA. [0:18:20, 0:18:24]: saying that they are in support of this particular development in the town. [0:18:25, 0:18:39]: Thank you. I just was not aware that it would be placed as a item on the consent agenda. I thought that would be something that we would discuss amongst us on whether or not to put it on the consent agenda. But I do support this though. [0:18:39, 0:18:42]: I approve of it. Thank you. So mayor. Yes, yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:18:43, 0:18:46]: Uh, when was the item placed on consent agenda? [0:18:48, 0:18:52]: I I would uh probably have to go talk to the city manager. [0:18:53, 0:18:54]: Mm-hmm. [0:18:55, 0:19:05]: Good evening very common. Go evening sir. City doesn't collect anything. Um we submitted the application. This is the first time in the city's stock register, the city has been on what [0:19:07, 0:19:09]: Is a business assistance program. [0:19:09, 0:19:11]: Mr. Garden, sorry to cut you off. [0:19:12, 0:19:26]: I I mean I I I fully understand what's going on. I'm just asking when was it placed under consent? Well part of putting the agenda together, recognizing that really really and truly consists of public support. If we don't support it we still get through the key part we still do it. [0:19:26, 0:19:28]: How long has it been on the consent agenda? [0:19:30, 0:19:43]: Okay, gotcha. Oh, I have a question. Who put sh I think the concern was He did he did. City Manager You did. Okay. City Manager did. And so we approved it. But we had a discussion when, Miss Braggs? [0:19:44, 0:19:50]: was several months ago. I don't know the exact date, but um Mr. Kelly Locks brought forward [0:19:54, 0:19:54]: Yeah. [0:20:00, 0:20:00]: Yes. [0:20:08, 0:20:18]: Thank you. I just wanna make sure because this is not new. This is something that we had already discussed. Okay. Well that's what excuse me. Go ahead. Go ahead, sir. That's what I was getting to. None of this is new. [0:20:19, 0:20:26]: And we was all present and we all knew about this. This is something that was fully given to the council. [0:20:26, 0:20:29]: And all we're doing today, reason is on the consent agenda. [0:20:29, 0:20:33]: Because it's something that we all want to move forward with. [0:20:34, 0:20:54]: This is nothing new. This is nothing being hid. This is something that we were all aware of. Thank you. Mayor. Yes, sir. Yeah, as the Downtown Development Authority, uh liaison, certainly it's a program that uh we've been working on for a couple of years now. I honestly uh it's something exciting that the downtown [0:20:54, 0:21:14]: Development authority was anxiously waiting to see happen. Uh, I think uh it's a$1.2 million dollar project in downtown. It's an outstanding thing. So certainly I think we unanimous support would be in order for all of us. And I'm sure Ms. Bragg is extremely excited about the fact we're moving forward. [0:21:13, 0:21:21]: with a one point two million dollar loan fully approved by the state and through the private industry for our downtown, correct? [0:21:22, 0:21:42]: Yes, and I will say that um this also is a feather in the cap of the city of Stockbridge, especially for their downtown district, because this will be the first DDRLF um project that has happened in the city of Stockbridge. So that is going to put us on the map with regard to DCA and their consideration for future. [0:21:42, 0:21:43]: future projects. [0:21:43, 0:21:46]: Absolutely. Outstanding. Okay. Thank you. [0:21:47, 0:21:58]: No no take another vote again or we're we're good. We took the vote. I thought we took a vote earlier, right? All right. Come to turn? Yeah we already voted. That's what I thought. Okay. And uh that passes I think with the unanimous decision now. [0:22:00, 0:22:01]: Is that correct? [0:22:01, 0:22:02]: Miss Barber? [0:22:03, 0:22:08]: Okay. All right. On that note, thank you, Ms. Brad. Thank you. [0:22:10, 0:22:30]: New business. Council consideration to approve the intergovernmental agreement IGA between the City of Stockbridge and the Citywide Development Authority. Council consideration to approve submission of the grant application for a recreational trail program for restaurant facilities at the west end of Rees Creek Trail off of Flippin' Road. Let's see stop. [0:22:30, 0:22:50]: The city of Stockbridge will submit a grant application for the recreation trail program with estimated total project costs of$450,000. The grant will require a minimum of$20,$90,000 match. The city will commit to a$50 that$50%, which is$225,000 match using SPLOS 5 funds, which will be [0:22:50, 0:23:08]: reimbursable reimbursed by the grant. The grant application states that if the city commits no more than 20% required match, the applicant will receive additional scoring points. So the city will commit to a 50% match. And this is presented by Mr. Jeremy Goodwin. Thank you, sir, please. [0:23:08, 0:23:11]: Yes, ma'am. Are we moving past number [0:23:11, 0:23:13]: Did I skip one? I asked. [0:23:17, 0:23:22]: Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought when it went over to the next I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, [0:23:23, 0:23:40]: So okay. Miss Aeroshaw looks to where it was there. What's going on here? Okay, I'm sorry. I did read that and I went to the next page. I'm sorry. So Kim Alons, he's not is he here? Once again, this is council consideration to approve the intergovernmental IGA between the city of Stockbridge and Citywide Development Authority. [0:23:42, 0:23:46]: And I have Quentin okay. Mr. Gardner, all right. [0:23:50, 0:23:51]: Could it be? [0:23:51, 0:23:52]: All right, go ahead, please. [0:23:54, 0:23:55]: All right. [0:24:03, 0:24:09]: Yes, sir. Uh good evening again, man council. Uh apologize, Kim wasn't here tonight, so we're here in his stead. [0:24:10, 0:24:17]: Um tonight you have before you the IGA and the governmental agreement between the City of Stockbridge and the Citywide Development Authority. [0:24:18, 0:24:38]: It's been reviewed heavily by uh staff, legal staff, as well as the legal counsel for the development authority. Uh and staff has obviously um approved us moving forward with the intergovernmental agreement. I think there was one this one's note we need to talk about. We have the shell the consent. [0:24:38, 0:24:43]: Right. This counts as away. And so I wasn't. [0:24:45, 0:24:51]: The concern with the document is the shall versus the May provisions, the shall meaning a being what the [0:24:52, 0:25:10]: the C DA assumes as the DDA did about it being a contract and that the May not being strong enough for a contract. But if that is the will of council, that's what the contract will say and we will make sure that that's reflected in the document before it's signed. [0:25:11, 0:25:24]: Um mayor. Yeah, go ahead please. Okay, so I have looked over some of this, but it wasn't me that addressed this concern for this. I actually addressed it during the D DA intergovernmental and I agree that it should be May. I don't want to be obligated [0:25:25, 0:25:26]: To anything. [0:25:26, 0:25:37]: Ever. Even though we're going to, you know, of course we're gonna assist our D DA, our development authority, anything else, I would never agree to the the language shell. [0:25:38, 0:25:55]: No, and that and that's why I took that from the last one. If that's the will of council, we'll make sure that's reflected in here. But that's what we just caught. But I'll in the resolution and the authorizing resolution which they did submit to us, which we have, it does give the authority to go back through and make sure that we express counsel's intent. [0:25:56, 0:26:16]: I'm not ready to look. I'm not ready, sir. Please. Yes, I think uh it would be fair to the representatives who were not here or the DA who were not here for the D D A portion. Uh certainly the intent is to give you the money. The intent is to give you the money every single year, but because of the past history of dealing with [0:26:16, 0:26:35]: outside entities we want to reserve the right and that's why it's being changed to May. Uh but the intent is to always give you the money, barring some legal uh rigmarole that her c like occurred several years ago. So uh that is the will of the council that to do that in that fashion. [0:26:36, 0:26:36]: [1597.2, 1613.2]: But we're specifically talking about section two point one and following, which says the initial budget of forty five thousand and shall be seventy five thousand dollars as such after the amount the city may approve. And so making sure that we put may be in there. [0:26:53, 0:26:54]: So I'm [0:26:58, 0:26:59]: I don't think I'm ready to vote. [0:26:59, 0:27:00]: So what? [0:27:01, 0:27:05]: I don't think I'm ready to vote. I'm sorry, Miss Um Shaw. [0:27:06, 0:27:07]: I'm sorry because [0:27:11, 0:27:13]: I wanna look back over the agreement some more. [0:27:14, 0:27:16]: Any other comments from the council? [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: Um [0:27:19, 0:27:23]: And I no I'm not just referring to that language, that one section. [0:27:24, 0:27:28]: We actually changed language throughout the d the D DAs. [0:27:28, 0:27:33]: agreement from Shall to May. There are some places in here that probably [0:27:33, 0:27:35]: We could keep the language shell. [0:27:36, 0:27:36]: But [0:27:37, 0:27:44]: I don't have it in PDF version or a Word doc that I can do a search to see where that language, particular language is. [0:27:44, 0:27:47]: And that means rushing through this. [0:27:48, 0:27:51]: to make sure that everything is there. [0:27:52, 0:27:54]: Mr Blount, do you have a comment? [0:27:55, 0:28:14]: Yeah, I'm I'm pretty much in concurrent uh concurrence with uh councilman getting b did we get I don't remember saying all the changes, but you're s you're saying specifically there was just one change?'Cause I thought we had discussed quite a bit myself when we uh talked about it. So w we can go back and check but the major changes [0:28:14, 0:28:18]: Or the major changes were c surrounding uh money with the shall and the may. [0:28:18, 0:28:21]: And so when upon review [0:28:22, 0:28:40]: That's not the language in here. And so but part of what we do so the council is sure that we check these things is that we upon passage make sure that we take whatever the clerk's notes are in you all's comments and we incorporate that in them before it goes to the mayor for signature. [0:28:41, 0:28:45]: But yes, if you all wanna still look at this. [0:28:45, 0:28:46]: That's your program. [0:28:46, 0:28:47]: You had a comment, sir. [0:28:48, 0:28:49]: Yes. Um [0:28:52, 0:29:12]: Ms. Gantt, Councilmember Gantt, if if it's the uh Xiao versus May, if we if we can treat that as scribble's note with the approval to move forward and make those necessary changes, would that be fine? And the reason why I'm asking is this obviously has an uh impact on something I'll be discussing with you guys later. [0:29:12, 0:29:18]: that needs to happen, um and having an agreement in place would assist with that process. [0:29:21, 0:29:30]: Any other comments why Ms. Gantt's thinking about that answer? Yeah, Mayor, for you for me, I'm I'm in agre I'm in agreement that we do wanna find progress. [0:29:30, 0:29:31]: Um [0:29:31, 0:29:33]: Because we're seeing for us. [0:29:33, 0:29:35]: Myself, I'm saying entities that [0:29:36, 0:29:39]: and changes that are happening that we're seeing um [0:29:40, 0:29:51]: aggressiveness for seeking businesses and and developers into the city like I've never seen since I've been on this council. So we definitely want to make sure that those entities are [0:29:51, 0:30:04]: funded how we can fund them and move how we can move. I just wanna make sure that contractually we we're still protected as our right to do certain things under the contract and I and I hadn't s you know looked at that. [0:30:06, 0:30:14]: May I if I can, can we table this and treat this as the last item after we get out of executive session? [0:30:14, 0:30:27]: All right, I'll tell you what. Um council is that uh Mr. Gardner has made a recommendation. Is there a motion to accept that recommendation to move this device item for tonight? So moved. Okay, is there a second? Mr. Blount second, all in favor please indicate. [0:30:28, 0:30:35]: All right, we'll move to the last item at the end of the agenda then. All right, so that will go all the way down to [0:30:36, 0:30:45]: Now you when you say to well actually it'd be num be consider number come after number nine. Okay. We'll we'll go from there. Now [0:30:45, 0:31:05]: Let me go back to this again. Obviously, since I skipped it initially. Once again, Council Consideration approved the submission of a grant application for the recreational trail program for restroom facilities at the west end of Rees Creek Trail off Flippin' Road. The City of Stockbridge will submit a grant application for the recreational trail program with the estimated total project cost. [0:31:05, 0:31:25]: Of$450,000. The grant will require a minimum of$20%$90,000 match. The city will commit to a$50%$225,000 match using SPLOS 5 funds, which will be reimbursed by the grant. The grant application states that if the city commits to more than 20% required match, the applicant will receive an additional. [0:31:24, 0:31:31]: scoring points. So the city will commit to a 50% match and this is presented once again by Mr. Jeremy Goodwin. Go ahead please sir. [0:31:32, 0:31:50]: Uh good good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. Uh we're just asking uh for council to approve um submission of a grant application for the recreational trail program for restroom facilities installed at Reeves Creek Trail off of Flippin' Road, which is at a total estimated cost of four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [0:31:52, 0:32:06]: Okay, Council, appreciate any questions for Mr. Goodwin in reference to this. Yeah, go ahead, please. Yeah, I just wanna say certainly this is something that we've talked about for a while now. And someone who's walked the trail with a group. [0:32:06, 0:32:10]: over and and then some of the members didn't quite make it back. [0:32:11, 0:32:31]: And then we were looking for a restroom when they got there. And then there's a there's a trip back of a mile and a half. So it really was a problem. So certainly this is something that is encumbered as we move uh forward with our master trail plan that we incorporate restrooms uh into this uh into the planning. So this is the [0:32:30, 0:32:35]: The modular restroom uh prefab unit that'll be going in there. [0:32:35, 0:32:45]: Uh yes, sir. And it will have one stall, two stall uh two So it'll have uh two stalls. So it will be a men's um restroom and a woman's restroom. [0:32:46, 0:33:06]: Okay. Okay. And uh do we have plumbing out there or is that gonna be uh yes, so there will be like a um a sanitary sewer collection that will be pretty much parallel to the road that will tie into a system um I think adjacent to the nearest the intersection. So yes, it will have. That's fortunate because a lot of these end up being on the septic. [0:33:06, 0:33:12]: But certainly it's fortunate that we have water available. So certainly if there's no other questions, I'll make a motion for approval. [0:33:13, 0:33:14]: All right, sir, second that motion. [0:33:14, 0:33:15]: Second. [0:33:15, 0:33:25]: Um Miss Barber second that all favor of that motion, please. I'm sorry, I'm excusing go ahead, sir. What's your question? Um I wouldn't end those discuss. So uh w [0:33:25, 0:33:45]: From where the restroom is gonna be, what would be the length to completion? Whether the trailhead or the the other end? So it's gonna do you you know where the exercise equipment is? Right. It'll be um it'll be adjacent to the left of where the exercise equipment will be. That's where the restroom facility will be installed. So it'll be kind of [0:33:45, 0:34:00]: Kind of right at the trailhead, but right next uh to the exercise equipment at the trailhead. So when it says to the left, that's as you're approaching as you c as you come off of flipping as you approach it, it'll be to your left. Yes, it'll be to your left. As you approach it. So we're actually putting a restroom at at the trailhead. [0:34:01, 0:34:16]: Uh so as you're approaching and you're coming into the parking lot, so the um exercise equipment is right ahead. Right. And right next to to to the left of the exercise equipment, that's where the restroom facility will be installed. [0:34:18, 0:34:19]: Okay. [0:34:21, 0:34:26]: Are any other questions? Um if there are no questions, the motion was made and second. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:34:29, 0:34:49]: Yeah security man. Okay. All right. So so we have a unanimous decision then. Thank you. I appreciate it. Okay, we took item number six off, removed that, but we added a m uh the Christmas event for State Representative Angela Moore. Ms. Alexander, you sent a message uh in reference to this, so I would imagine you would have the lead on this discussion. Go ahead, please. [0:34:49, 0:35:09]: Yes, um Representative Moore has brought to us uh which information that we received about an outstanding event that involved in an international partner that she's working with that she wants to bring here to Stockbridge, and that event will be on uh November the twenty-fifth, and the request is to authorize Merle Man. [0:35:09, 0:35:14]: [2116.8, 2136.8]: And what what's my my understanding is right now, I mean we can ch obviously the council can change that, but right now I believe that that um that time frame was was closed off, if I understand correctly from event staff members. So we would have to circ uh circum and change that per se. And it's my also understanding that this wonderful event would be at [0:35:36, 0:35:56]: Right. Certainly I think that it wasn't any uh events and conflict. It was just that that that was blocked out by the staff. So there's no conflict and event. We just need to authorize them to have the facility open on that day. And this is a wonderful opportunity to bring an international partner to the [0:35:56, 0:36:16]: table uh with some nota with some media attention to bring uh this spirit to the town during the holidays with no cost to the city with the partnering with our state representative miss more who has been extremely uh friendly and um worked with the city to uh [0:36:16, 0:36:25]: move forward our measures in the legislature. And that's a Saturday and the time frame, sir, I forgot the uh time frame that would be executed. [0:36:25, 0:36:29]: Okay, hold on, let me pull that up real quick. She sent me a text on it. [0:36:33, 0:36:38]: I believe this is called a Christmas cantata or something like that, something along those lines. Please what's the name former name? [0:36:38, 0:36:46]: Yeah, it's called it's called the it'll be the Lighthouse okay junior choir holiday peace concert. Okay. [0:36:47, 0:36:50]: Oh sorry, is that it? No, that ain't it. It's something new. [0:36:53, 0:37:08]: Right. There'll be brochures with uh all of the information uh attached to it. Uh I don't know if she gave she didn't give me a particular time, but I'm sure she'll be able to finalize that with uh with the sta with the events there. [0:37:08, 0:37:10]: All right. Mayor. Yes, we'll go ahead, please. [0:37:10, 0:37:15]: Well, they have up their own sound system because our murmur sound system is absolutely horrible. [0:37:20, 0:37:40]: I personally can't answer that question. I don't I don't Councilman Alexander, do you know? I don't know the answer to that. I would certainly hope that we would uh work with the partners and to see what needs to be done. Whatever we can do, I would hope that we would do it. But uh with the international group such as this, I would hope that they would have uh work [0:37:40, 0:37:52]: with a local vendor to set that up. But are you aware of it, Mr. Gardner? Yes. So the we had someone come in and evaluate the sound system. I spoke to Albans um late last week. [0:37:53, 0:38:05]: And what they found out it is the the configuration of how we how we place the existing speakers and the ones on the roof making those turn off. And so anytime they set any time an outside group set up. [0:38:05, 0:38:09]: They're gonna be given places where they should put their [0:38:09, 0:38:12]: their speakers that would cut down on on that. [0:38:14, 0:38:34]: reverberation that you hear when you're in there, sounding like you're in the echo kind of like an echo chamber, that'll cut that down by sixty or seventy percent. Um and then after that we're gonna look at putting some other materials that'll actually absorb that additional sound. But they told us that's the that was the main issue was the sound, the speakers that were coming from up top was was actually called [0:38:33, 0:38:48]: causing the deflection from the sound from the other speakers. So once we turn those off, the system should actually work much better. It's not the actual system. They said that's actually good. It was just the way the speakers were configured that's causing it to happen now that the flooring has changed. Oh good. Yes, ma'am. [0:38:48, 0:38:50]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Mr. Garner. [0:38:52, 0:39:10]: Um is is there a backup plan it or and will this be tested before uh the date uh November twenty-fifth? Um because I'm we're aware too of that system. And if this does not work. [0:39:12, 0:39:26]: So so to answer your question, sir, we can ask um Miss Moore who if she's bringing in some external equipment and then try to have them do a sound t test in advance. But once we upgrade [0:39:27, 0:39:47]: I know I'm asking this question, but I know I'm sh once it's upgraded, we are going to test. Yes. Well the the it's not really an upgrade. The system in place is actually a good system, sir. It's just the way this this from the speakers. Once we took that the flooring out and the hardwood the floor the floors, the up the speakers that are up. [0:39:47, 0:39:55]: Higher up is what's causing the craziness in the system. So the guy, the consultant told us where to place um [0:39:55, 0:39:59]: Movable speakers, where we put those to take away from that. [0:39:59, 0:40:03]: the the craziness and the echo sound that you get when you're in there. [0:40:03, 0:40:06]: Um that should reduce that by about sixty or seventy percent. [0:40:07, 0:40:17]: I I I I hope so because we had this problem even when we had carpeted on the floor. So I'm hoping that this will work, but I'm we're a little skeptical. Yep. [0:40:17, 0:40:18]: Um thank you, Mayor. [0:40:19, 0:40:30]: Um th that's one of my concerns too, cause we have every month we have a bingo bash. But I can't we can't use that system. [0:40:31, 0:40:34]: Because you can't understand what's being said. So we bring in [0:40:35, 0:40:37]: Uh external speakers that we could place in there. [0:40:38, 0:40:42]: Um and I'm not gonna go over professional consultant, but [0:40:43, 0:40:45]: Anytime you have a hollowed out [0:40:45, 0:40:47]: Roof anywhere. [0:40:48, 0:40:49]: Uh, that's even in your bathroom. [0:40:50, 0:40:53]: When everything's a solid around it, you have a solid floor with no cushion. [0:40:53, 0:40:56]: When everything is solid, it echoes. [0:40:57, 0:41:04]: Even there's a there's a percentage of echo even with the placing of the speakers that are that we bring. [0:41:05, 0:41:08]: Because it's hollowed out and everything is solid. [0:41:09, 0:41:13]: And when you're talking about an ample amplifying sound. [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: Louder than what? [0:41:15, 0:41:17]: We do at the Bingo Bash. [0:41:17, 0:41:29]: You're gonna get that feedback. That's why you can stand on one side of a mountain and yell because the hollowing out of the canyon is gonna echo your voice. That same principles apply to even smaller [0:41:29, 0:41:41]: uh areas like a like a Merrill Mendes because it's hollowed out and when you put that sound in you have to have sound barriers placed in there. It's not about just speaker placement. [0:41:41, 0:41:49]: It's about having those barriers placed in there that can absorb sound. There's nothing to absorb so absorb the echo. [0:41:50, 0:41:57]: And that's why we're gonna you're gonna always have that. And I thought that when we ri did all this money in the renovations that we were gonna address it then, but [0:41:57, 0:42:09]: Well, uh yes, sir. And and the goal is to d to address it, but as I've mentioned to you guys before, you have what amounts to a nine million dollar building that's over [0:42:09, 0:42:11]: Fifteen years old. [0:42:11, 0:42:12]: Right. [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: And [0:42:13, 0:42:22]: Yes, the Merle has to be updated, but the three hundred and sixty thousand is like having a three million dollar house and putting three three thousand dollars to renovate it and call it a renovation. [0:42:23, 0:42:43]: Right. Um eventually, yes, we have to do some more things to fix the Merle and make her even more competitive. And that's something we discuss even at the retreat about hey, what do we do with some of our to do uh update our facilities, our infrastructure, our roadways, and that's something we'll be bringing to you guys to have more comment on. Um but yes, ultimately. [0:42:43, 0:43:03]: Ultimately, we're gonna have to put some things in there, Mr. Blount, to address what you said. That's that's that's coming. But in terms of how we utilize the space now and for the information we got, uh this is the best we could do at this point. But I would also, since you mentioned splots, for us this council to get a rundown. [0:43:03, 0:43:14]: Because it's w we're we're div you know, we're having so many meetings that we're saying splash splash sploss. I just wanna make sure that when those splots funds come that they're allocated where we need to be allocating. [0:43:14, 0:43:21]: So by law, once you allocate'em, that's where they're supposed to go unless somebody wants to go to jail and that person's not me. [0:43:21, 0:43:31]: May I a last question. Go ahead and Mr Gardner, um the timeline when the p uh professional will come in to to do the redo. [0:43:32, 0:43:42]: What is the timeline from that redo to the twenty fifth? So if it does not work, we still have time. And the reason I say this, um [0:43:42, 0:43:44]: In videotaping [0:43:45, 0:43:48]: When when we had the first responders luncheon, [0:43:49, 0:43:53]: We had to all of the speakers had to be mic'd up. [0:43:53, 0:43:55]: In order for [0:43:56, 0:44:00]: the video to be coherent. [0:44:00, 0:44:07]: Those that spoke into the house mic, you could not understand. But that's in reviewing the video. [0:44:08, 0:44:13]: Um, but I'm still a little concerned with the timeline, so if this doesn't work. [0:44:13, 0:44:25]: Is there enough time in b before the twenty fifth to go to plan B? And and I I not that's my last question, but I just want to just put that on your calendar, on your radar. Yes, sir. Uh I I'm sorry. [0:44:26, 0:44:33]: Okay. I got a question. Oh, right, yes, sir. What are we actually getting rid of agree or disagree to when it comes to funding? [0:44:33, 0:44:36]: What what amount are we talking about? [0:44:37, 0:44:48]: I don't have that number in front of me, Mr. Blanc. In terms of um, you know, right now I know that staff has been working on what we all need to do to the Merl holistically. [0:44:48, 0:44:51]: What we're gonna need and that's something obviously [0:44:51, 0:45:04]: we're going to discuss to to the council as part of our upcoming SPLOSS discussion. But in terms um Mr. Thomas, in terms of like trying to address this before the November twenty fifth, um [0:45:04, 0:45:22]: You know, we hadn't what we did is we had a consultant come in to look at the sound system and to look at how the sound how we could improve the sound in the w in the event room. Um we we didn't program or haven't programmed any funds, um, because we we've done all the reservations with the funds we had. Um so [0:45:23, 0:45:30]: Yes, we'll be efforting that and bringing that to you guys as to what it would cost to bring the Merle holistically. [0:45:30, 0:45:32]: Up to up to where it should be. [0:45:32, 0:45:34]: Um recognizing that obviously [0:45:35, 0:45:36]: We don't we we don't [0:45:36, 0:45:38]: Putting it in the general fund. [0:45:38, 0:45:43]: Like I said, we had three hundred and sixty dollars. I think it was seven thousand dollars to renovate the building. [0:45:43, 0:45:55]: We've done that with what we could do. I know that we've changed out the air systems a few years ago, but there's some other things we need to do to address, making her competitive to some of the surrounding facilities that she compete against. [0:45:55, 0:46:12]: Mr. Gardner, I think that's not what Mr. Blount was asking for. He was he was um he was asking for the vent itself. The vent itself, not not long term for the for Mermand's vent itself. And I think that uh you probably don't have the answer to that. I'm thinking maybe Mr. Alexander might be able to help with this. [0:46:13, 0:46:33]: It's uh from what I understand it's fully funded by them. What they just need the use the use of the facility. It's fully funded. So we'll work we'll I'll get in contact with them small to find out who they're gonna be utilizing and that way the staff can work with them as how best we can make sure that the the system is working. If they're bringing in their own system, then fine. How do we plug and play with that their system? Um [0:46:33, 0:46:38]: To make sure that it's the best that we can do um in reference to these. [0:46:38, 0:46:42]: What what I need to make sure that we have this council is fully aware [0:46:42, 0:46:46]: Oh, what our contractual obligations is. I don't want us to do [0:46:46, 0:46:52]: I I don't like blindly doing giving anybody anything unless there's a contract before us showing [0:46:53, 0:46:55]: What is expected of us and what's expected of them? [0:46:56, 0:47:15]: That's that's how we should operate on any entity. Yes, sir. I I I thought Unfortunate this just came out today. Uh so I couldn't tell you any of that. Because one of the things about events, especially around Christmas events, and if it's gonna be a big event, you're gonna need officers, you're gonna need you're gonna need workers to clean up, you're gonna need all I just need to see a c for me. [0:47:16, 0:47:36]: They can pa you know, for me, I don't like approving anything unless I see the contractual obligations from the city and the contractual obligations that's gonna be set forward by the person that's doing the event. And we don't I don't see any of that before us other than somebody saying, little little more than three weeks they wanna have an event. And hey, uh let the [0:47:36, 0:47:39]: chips far where they may. I I don't operate like that. [0:47:39, 0:47:40]: Understood. [0:47:41, 0:48:01]: Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Let me just say this. Let's let's bring this right back to where we are. Our state representative has asked to use a city facility. That's it. And in in in essence, it is we want to be good friendly partners with our legislators. And certainly any legislator or anybody on this council, if they came and asked to use [0:48:01, 0:48:21]: Use the facility. I've said it every time. I'm gonna vote for it because that's what their right is. And certainly, I don't think I think what we need to be concerned about here is let them make the decision if the sound system is up to what they want it to be, all the requirements of the building, they're gonna get to make the final decision on. [0:48:21, 0:48:41]: Whether they use it or not. They're just asking for us to have approval for it. They've already had this event. They're gonna have uh a similar event uh over in Stone Crest. They've already agreed to that uh some time ago. And she offered us the opportunity for us to do it uh here as well. So certainly I think we wanna make sure that we're [0:48:41, 0:49:01]: being good partners with our legislators and and um assisting them in moving forward. I understand we don't have uh the all of the figures in front of us, but she has been begging for us to answer this question and has not gotten a result. All of us have seen the emails and we've seen the traffic. So we're kind of at a point now where [0:49:00, 0:49:12]: she needs to book the event, which uh she's already uh talked with them about potentially having it on this particular date and that's kind of where it is. Now there is no other options to move it to another date at this point. [0:49:12, 0:49:14]: Maybe sir, go ahead, please. [0:49:14, 0:49:14]: Mm. [0:49:15, 0:49:23]: And I'm in agreement, Mr. Alexander. I just want you know I'm in agreement with that allowing any legislator to use the facility. [0:49:23, 0:49:27]: I mean I have no problem with raising my hand and saying, Yes, you can use the facility. [0:49:28, 0:49:33]: Uh and if there's no cost to the city for for that, I'm fine with that. But um [0:49:34, 0:49:35]: I don't wanna [0:49:35, 0:49:49]: twenty, thirty thousand dollar event to happen and then it's and then something comes down the road and sit if it's just to use the facility and facilitate what she's uh what the what uh uh Representative Moore been doing, I'm fine with that. I'm one hundred percent fine with that. I'm one hundred percent fine with that. [0:49:50, 0:49:54]: When we are coming agreement for any legislator that wants to use a facility to an [0:49:54, 0:49:58]: not only enhance our community but to bring a program in like that. I'm okay with it. [0:49:59, 0:50:02]: But that to me that's not the that wasn't the issue for me is using [0:50:02, 0:50:05]: The use of the facility, the issue for me was [0:50:06, 0:50:08]: To make sure that this is something that [0:50:09, 0:50:10]: That's gonna be [0:50:11, 0:50:14]: Done and operated en and set up by them. [0:50:15, 0:50:23]: without us now later on down the road saying, Hey, we need to get we need to do this, we need to do that. So I'm fine with the facil I'm one hundred percent fine with the facility. [0:50:24, 0:50:30]: Well well certainly if that's the case I certainly would be make the motion to say that this is for the use of the facility only. [0:50:32, 0:50:52]: All right. That's a motion. That's my motion that we would allow Representative Angela Moore to hold the event that's been described on November the twenty-fifth, uh, la allowing them to use the uh Merrill Mandas Conference Center for this event. Any other cost or exterior, any other cost. [0:50:52, 0:50:56]: cost or related expenses will be uh accommod upon the user. [0:50:56, 0:51:03]: So Mr. Blount's second down. All in favor, please indicate. Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. [0:51:04, 0:51:24]: Council of consideration approved the request for the winding Creek subdivision HOA for the city to assume the responsibility of paving paying the monthly street light bill for the subdivision street lights effective one January 2024. The cost is$1,476.97 per month. [0:51:24, 0:51:31]: It which would mean a annual c annual cost of seventeen thousand seven hundred and twenty three dollars and sixty four cents. Mr. Aaron, please. [0:51:34, 0:51:36]: Yes, good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. [0:51:36, 0:51:44]: In the city's current edition of the minimum development standards, Section 434 addresses street lights. [0:51:44, 0:51:46]: And I'll just read [0:51:46, 0:51:47]: Item B. [0:51:47, 0:52:01]: It says the developers shall pay all costs for standard poles, fixtures, and any other related items or materials necessary for the installation as well as arrange an agreement with the utility company for complete maintenance of all installations. [0:52:02, 0:52:07]: The city of Stockbridge shall assume the responsibility and make the monthly payments to the power company. [0:52:07, 0:52:14]: for electrical energy for East Streetlight only after these requirements have been accomplished and improvements accepted. [0:52:14, 0:52:27]: The city of Stockbridge shall accept responsibility for power bills for street lights no earlier than one year after the street lights have been installed, and the developer or homeowners association will be responsible until that time. [0:52:28, 0:52:36]: That's what the current is for new developments that were in the city limits previously prior to the annexation. [0:52:36, 0:52:37]: Go ahead, sir. [0:52:40, 0:53:00]: What really happened was we were at a town hall and the HOA president came up and asked, because they had just taken over the HOA from um the builder and they were looking at their budget and their budget had a big hole in it. And the question was asked at that time to m to myself and then I related to Mr. Mr. [0:53:00, 0:53:20]: Or Aaron wasn't this what it what was the city policy behind this. He just read us the policy. We should have been paying their bill, and we were not doing so. So it kind of put them put in a position where this subdivision was an outlier where everybody else's were being paid. Now I did point out to the HOA president that we may [0:53:19, 0:53:39]: Very well be moving in that direction where those streetlights in the future would be paid by these this the HOA or by the residents in that area as more and more streetlights come on and the budget continues to rise. But the policy at that time, and that subdivision has been in existence for several. [0:53:39, 0:53:44]: Yeah. [0:53:45, 0:53:58]: Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. Um go ahead. Can we finish? Uh you you're done, right, sir? Mr Alzheimer, you're done? Yeah. Mr Blount, go ahead, please. Yeah, I spoke to Mr Aaron earlier today and he explained to me that this uh community was the last [0:53:58, 0:54:04]: community that was already already uh in the uh city limits of Stockbridge that wasn't being [0:54:05, 0:54:14]: uh in compliance with everything with other communities in the in the uh city. And this would be the last one that would come in c to compliance, so um I mean, you know [0:54:15, 0:54:22]: th it is what it is on this one. So uh this is why I'm in agreement with it,'cause it does come in compliance and it's one to [0:54:22, 0:54:24]: Subdivision that was already in the city. [0:54:24, 0:54:26]: Mr. Thomas, good, please sir. [0:54:26, 0:54:29]: Uh, thank you. Mr. Aaron, thank you as well. [0:54:29, 0:54:32]: Uh I'm I'm okay with that. [0:54:32, 0:54:34]: And with those facts. [0:54:35, 0:54:40]: But my concern it is and I'm recalling at our last [0:54:40, 0:54:52]: retreat, uh you sort of caution us of providing street lights where we were actually going with this. You cautioned us on that. [0:54:53, 0:54:55]: And I think at that time [0:54:55, 0:55:15]: um staff was directed to do an analysis um to to see where we were going with this and I would hope that uh that is still in in in the in the in the process of happening so we can sort of look at that because [0:55:15, 0:55:35]: There are requests all over the city, you know, for street lights. And I know you read the code, and I just don't know with the annexation, with the new developments coming in. I just want to make sure that this may be the last. So [0:55:35, 0:55:39]: Can you sort of speak to the analysis and and for future? [0:55:39, 0:55:44]: uh uh a recommendation or well where are we going with this? [0:55:44, 0:56:04]: Yes, sir. Public Works Staff has completed the analysis of all the parcels within the city limits of Stockbridge, the the current and the ones that were annexed into the city limits of Stockbridge. And we will be bringing something for discussion before Mayor and Council, but I have a conversation with the city manager prior to us bringing that forward. [0:56:04, 0:56:08]: But we do have an analysis of all the parcels that were annexed in [0:56:08, 0:56:21]: into the city and the and the current ones. And also I think Henry County, the ones that were annexed into the city, billed them their street light assessment for next year. So they have been billed for those. So [0:56:22, 0:56:25]: But eventually we're gonna have to address that issue and [0:56:25, 0:56:27]: And we're ready to do that. [0:56:28, 0:56:38]: So, if I may d um is it your opinion and I and I don't wanna put words in your mouth, but uh you are the opinion that we as a city [0:56:39, 0:56:43]: cannot afford long term, future wise. [0:56:43, 0:56:44]: to um [0:56:46, 0:56:49]: to to absorb this cost. [0:56:49, 0:56:59]: Going forward. Not at the rate that we're going. You can't continually without increasing the budget and also possibly the millage rate to account for those costs. [0:57:00, 0:57:01]: Thank you. [0:57:02, 0:57:04]: Any other questions? Ms. Barbacoy, please. [0:57:05, 0:57:10]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron, and thank you, Councilman Thomas, for um speaking. [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: About the [0:57:11, 0:57:12]: analysis. [0:57:13, 0:57:15]: I've been waiting for that. As you know [0:57:15, 0:57:19]: The majority of the nuly annex residents. [0:57:19, 0:57:22]: Majority of them are in city council district four. [0:57:23, 0:57:23]: Um [0:57:24, 0:57:24]: They want [0:57:25, 0:57:26]: They likes paint. [0:57:26, 0:57:27]: Two. [0:57:27, 0:57:31]: The lights that are inside of their neighborhoods and subdivisions. [0:57:31, 0:57:34]: they like for the city to cover those costs. [0:57:34, 0:57:36]: I've been waiting for that analysis. [0:57:36, 0:57:38]: I want to make sure that we are being fair. [0:57:39, 0:57:40]: About what we're doing. [0:57:41, 0:57:42]: Um [0:57:42, 0:57:43]: I support [0:57:44, 0:57:48]: Um paying for the street lights inside of Wining Creek. [0:57:48, 0:57:50]: But we need to be fair. [0:57:52, 0:57:57]: So what do I tell those homeowners who have been annexed into the city? [0:57:58, 0:58:00]: We now don't have budget. [0:58:00, 0:58:02]: For road and infrastructure improvement. [0:58:03, 0:58:04]: In city council district four. [0:58:05, 0:58:08]: And we won't have money in the budget. [0:58:08, 0:58:10]: To pay for lighting. [0:58:10, 0:58:11]: In their subdivisions. [0:58:12, 0:58:15]: So what do I do? And I'm still waiting. [0:58:15, 0:58:18]: For road and infrastructure analysis for that area. [0:58:18, 0:58:21]: Still waiting to hear the analysis of the lighting. [0:58:22, 0:58:24]: To support homeowners who are in that area. [0:58:25, 0:58:26]: We just need to be fair. [0:58:27, 0:58:28]: That's the point I'm making. [0:58:28, 0:58:30]: I believe during our retreat. [0:58:30, 0:58:33]: The mayor even echoed that. He actually said it. [0:58:33, 0:58:35]: We have to be fair about what we're doing. [0:58:36, 0:58:37]: If we cannot [0:58:37, 0:58:38]: Afford. [0:58:39, 0:58:40]: To cover the cost of lighting, [0:58:41, 0:58:43]: For all subdivisions throughout the city. [0:58:45, 0:58:47]: We can't keep making exceptions. [0:58:49, 0:58:50]: For others. [0:58:53, 0:58:55]: All right. Well I'll I will tell you that [0:58:55, 0:59:00]: Mayor Ford, if I may, when will that analysis for the lighting [0:59:00, 0:59:02]: throughout the entire city be presented to us. [0:59:03, 0:59:06]: since it was supposed to be presented to us after the retreat. [0:59:07, 0:59:27]: I don't think we ever talked about presenting an analysis of the street light, but taxes notices just went out. We were able to get the parcels that were annexed into the cities. So we just got that information as soon as the taxes went out. But one of the things is we need to uh there needs to be a workshop or an on a meeting [0:59:27, 0:59:47]: to just do an analysis of what the impact of this annexation is on the city's budget and what's the potential impact because there are some issues police department is battling, there's some issues public works is battling, there are some issues that community development. And we need to sit down and go uh and outline a strategy and plan of how we go about addressing these issues. [0:59:47, 1:00:07]: From roads to street lights to infrastructure and other things like that. We've been able to gather information on a road assessment because Henry County had an assessment done of all their roads in 2022. So we've got we've got all of that information for the roads that were annexed into the city. One of the things we're trying to obtain from them that wasn't [1:00:07, 1:00:21]: part of the analysis is the right-of-way. It's not on there or the length and width of the roads. So that's the only thing that's holding us back on the road part, but we do have the grades for all of the roads that were annexed. They go from [1:00:21, 1:00:35]: poor to marginal to fair to very good to excellent. So those are the categories for their roles. We're just trying to gather the information because we need to know the right away as well. So we have the road assessment and [1:00:35, 1:00:44]: We would hope that mayor and council to save money since the roads were done by them anyway, that we use the information that they have. [1:00:44, 1:01:00]: I don't see the need to repay someone to revise or make an improvement on information that's already available. So there are some discussions that need to be had on on all the department and how it's impacting not only the department but the budget as well. [1:01:01, 1:01:06]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. Mayor Ford, can I ask Mr. Gardner? Um [1:01:06, 1:01:08]: Can you come to the podium please? [1:01:09, 1:01:19]: because I really need um for someone to address um the street light program. So I have some good news to share to those newly NX residents. [1:01:21, 1:01:41]: The the analysis that Mr. Aaron just spoke of. When will that be provided to the council? This is about winding creek. The overall involvement is a little streaming. That's it. I know it is. This needs to amend you need to mend the agenda if you want to have an overall [1:01:41, 1:02:01]: discussion about what we're gonna do with the street night analysis that needs to happen. This is about one subdivision that has been that we approved in 2017 that has not had their bill paid. Certainly I think we made the conversation very crystal clear what direction that we're [1:02:00, 1:02:20]: We were going in as a city. He's made that assertion that we may not be able to maintain this, but in the end, that's where we are now. We're trying to fix something that's already been wrong. Now, I'm not about to sit up here and let the county give us all of these roads that were in inferior condition and all of a sudden, oh, we gotta fix. [1:02:20, 1:02:25]: them all right now. No, I'm sorry. When these roads were approved [1:02:26, 1:02:28]: Henry County had these roads. [1:02:28, 1:02:34]: They got splots dollars that the pr that that the public voted on sitting in their accounts. [1:02:35, 1:02:36]: So for repaving. [1:02:36, 1:02:42]: Now some of these roads would have would have had to been repaid by them. [1:02:42, 1:03:02]: to in or before they came into the city. So you gonna leave send us these subpar roads and let expect us to fix them? No, Valley Hill Road, they should have fixed it before we got it. So there's some dollars that they collected in the spLOS that we should go that we should be asking for because when the voters voted, they was that was an unincorporated [1:03:02, 1:03:22]: That money should come with them. That should go with us. It is not reasonable for to ask us to pay for these items that should have been handled all the way. And that's why I say I don't want to go there because we got to go. This is a Pandora's box that could go in a million different directions. This point right here is about Winding Creek. Now, if we want [1:03:22, 1:03:26]: wanna amend the agenda and talk about that other item, we certainly can do that. [1:03:26, 1:03:37]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion if I could. Oh okay. I'd like to amend the agenda so that we can have a discussion in regards to um the street lighting program. [1:03:37, 1:03:38]: For the city. [1:03:39, 1:03:40]: For the entire city. [1:03:40, 1:03:42]: All right. Is there a second to that motion? [1:03:42, 1:03:43]: A second. [1:03:43, 1:03:44]: Mr Uh [1:03:45, 1:03:48]: Mr. Thomas second that all in favor of agreeing with that motion, please indicate. [1:03:50, 1:03:50]: Opposed. [1:03:53, 1:04:00]: Oppose. Yeah. Okay. So you sustain or you you [1:04:01, 1:04:21]: You are saying, okay, well I've I pull I my vote is well I get a chance to vote. My vote is we not discuss uh the overall process right now we'll stick with winding creek. So now let's let's do this. Let me make an alternative motion. No, no, let me let me finish this for a second. Okay, so we stick with Winding Creek. What it is is that there's if there's an analysis, it has to be done across [1:04:21, 1:04:41]: the board analysis needs to be done and then we probably take a look at this entire subject at a at a different meeting but it where we have a specific time to talk about the entire program for the entire city as opposed to doing it right now. That's my recommendation. Mr Alexander go ahead please yes that that would be my recommendation too. Hunt would you be able to do that by the next meeting, you think? [1:04:41, 1:04:43]: Or w how much time would you need? [1:04:44, 1:04:53]: Okay, well let's say that we'll we'll we'll revisit this subject with complete information that the staff will provide us at the November thirteenth. Mr. Alexander the next [1:04:54, 1:05:03]: Thirty you said thirty days. You mean thirty days? Thirty days. Yes. So we're late November. The work session. It'll be a work session in November. Yes. Okay, thirty days. So the work session in November. [1:05:04, 1:05:05]: I second it. [1:05:06, 1:05:16]: You're seconding that motion, is that what you say? Yes. Oh wait, is this I well we can do it? That's the motion I moved. Okay, we can do that motion. See motion is seconded. Is there is there all in favor of the motion? [1:05:17, 1:05:27]: J'invente saison, okay fine. Thirty days from now we'll talk about the whole program. Now it's back to uh Winding Creek. All right. So uh any other questions specifically on Winding Creek. [1:05:28, 1:05:34]: I have nodded in a motion to go ahead and approve this or disapprove it. Motion to approve. Okay. Is there a second? [1:05:35, 1:05:36]: Is there a second? [1:05:38, 1:05:39]: Ms. Gasgan, all fair, please indicate. [1:05:42, 1:05:43]: Okay, NAMS decision. [1:05:43, 1:05:45]: Thank you, Ms. Air. Thank you, Ms. Mayor. All right. [1:05:46, 1:05:49]: Alrighty, let's see here. [1:05:50, 1:06:10]: Council consideration to authorize the mayor to sign transmittal for the updated 2028 City of Stockbridge Comprehensive Plan and submit to the Atlanta Regional Commission and the Georgia Department of Community Affairs for review. Mr. Anderson, please. Good evening. Uh Mayor, I'm actually up here tonight to uh seek an adoption of the [1:06:10, 1:06:14]: Twenty twenty four five year update of the comprehensive plan. [1:06:14, 1:06:26]: Could I skip something again? No, sir. Uh that's from the meeting in August. The language was an updated Oh. So actually I'm seeking a resolution to approve the twenty twenty four uh comprehensive plan update. [1:06:27, 1:06:34]: Okay, yeah, wow. Okay. And uh the the resolution should be in your package. So um [1:06:36, 1:06:50]: So um uh basically what we have is the Department of Community Affairs, the State Department of Community Affairs requires a five year update. Mr. Johnson, we're gonna have to amend the agenda before we go into discussion with it because all right. [1:06:51, 1:06:55]: No, no, the what's in the book is twenty twenty-four, comprehensive plan. [1:06:55, 1:07:05]: Okay. It says twenty twenty eight. I was reading the agenda I was reading the out of the agenda. [1:07:06, 1:07:06]: Right. [1:07:07, 1:07:17]: All right, so Mr. Ryan, you said twenty twenty four, right? And this is the comprehensive plan. Five year update. Five year update is what you're referring to. Okay. [1:07:18, 1:07:34]: All right, so I guess in a sense to make this correct, we need a motion to uh yes ma'am. For the correct language, Ryan, sho is that supposed to be twenty twenty four through twenty twenty eight? Yes. Mm-hmm. What is it now? Twenty twenty four to twenty twenty eight? Yes, sir. Okay. [1:07:36, 1:07:41]: Mayor, I'd like to uh for the council to remove item number eight from the agenda. [1:07:43, 1:07:55]: Totally remote remove it of the the verb. Because it's it's not anything that he's d he's not discussing. Eight, we're gonna be discussing the comp comprehensive five year update plan from twenty twenty four to twenty twenty eight, not not what's on uh item number eight. [1:07:56, 1:08:02]: Is that correct? Yes, that's correct. So we have to remove it, vote to remove it from the agenda. [1:08:04, 1:08:10]: All right, and then add and then make the corrections. Then we'll make the corrections uh for the uh comp plan five year update. [1:08:11, 1:08:13]: Alrighty. Is there a second to that motion? [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: I'm not clear on the [1:08:16, 1:08:22]: The motion is to remove an item that we're not even talking about, which is item number eight as it is written. [1:08:22, 1:08:32]: to remove that item and then to add the item or the comp file your comp plan update. This is just to technically stay in order for what we're discussing and where we can discuss. [1:08:32, 1:08:45]: So is it the Stock Race Comprehensive Comp comp plan? Yeah, comprehensive company. That's what's written, but it's twenty twenty four through twenty twenty eight. Yes. That was left off. You left off twenty twenty four. Yes, twenty eight. Yes. [1:08:45, 1:08:58]: Okay, so so otherwise we just added the word the twenty twenty four, right before twenty twenty eight, everything else is correct? Yes, an adoption. No, we're actually I'm actually up here seeking a resolu a resolution to adopt the twenty twenty four to twenty twenty eight comprehensive plan. [1:09:00, 1:09:12]: The last one was was twenty twenty eight and they were done every five years. So it's actually tw Nothing on here says a resolution, so why don't we just remove it and then just put the eleven in place? Yeah. [1:09:14, 1:09:14]: Yeah. [1:09:16, 1:09:18]: As simple as that. Then just go ahead and vote on the way through. [1:09:19, 1:09:22]: Ya you can't see what we're saying? I do, I get what you're saying. [1:09:22, 1:09:42]: So you're not this is not an update. This is basically a resolution to adopt the twenty twenty four, twenty twenty eight comp plan. Yeah, but it's but it's just an update, yes. The update. Yes. Update version of it. Yes, ma'am. And does that is that to agree to for the mayor to sign that? We've already done that. We've already completed that part. Okay. So when I pass out your your comprehensive plan, you can see [1:09:42, 1:09:52]: that the mayor's letter has already been transmitted. So Mr. Gardner, you gonna straighten us out now? Yeah. Okay, we're good. So you you have a five year update before you have to redo your plan altogether? [1:09:52, 1:10:12]: Twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight. Five years. So it take effect for twenty twenty four. We re look at it again in twenty twenty eight. And that'll be correct me if I'm wrong, ALC, that'll be a full comprehensive plan update at that point. Oh [1:10:12, 1:10:32]: We still got another five-year-old. Five year updates okay. But what we've done so far, I think we had a presentation at the last meeting that kind of went over what we updated in the 2020, the original 2017 plan. Uh and it went to DCA and DCA approved that it met all of the requirements to be an adopted comprehensive plan. [1:10:32, 1:10:51]: Uh and once this adoption resolution is done, then you'll be able to maintain your qualified local government status. Is that helpful? Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I agree. Okay. Um I second Councilman Zablant's motion to remove agenda item number eight. [1:10:51, 1:11:01]: Are you saying to remove it and replace it with this? We remove it and then put the proper verbiage in for what we're actually doing with a resolution for the five year update comp plan to be b uh given to [1:11:02, 1:11:02]: No. [1:11:03, 1:11:10]: Oh. Okay. So okay, so y you made a motion, you're gonna second that motion. Is that correct? Yes. Okay, our favorite motion please indicate. [1:11:11, 1:11:17]: Okay, so you now she says, Okay, now. Now let's make a correct motion so we can have this in the record. [1:11:17, 1:11:18]: The correct motion will be exactly what? [1:11:19, 1:11:30]: Motion is to replace it with the uh five year comp plan update for twenty twenty four to twenty twenty eight and have a resolution in place to coincide with that. Is that what you're looking for? Yes, sir. [1:11:31, 1:11:33]: Okay, motion made is there a second? [1:11:33, 1:11:35]: I second. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [1:11:37, 1:11:38]: Generous decision. [1:11:38, 1:11:58]: All right, Mr. Anderson. Sorry about that. I don't know why that language was was wasn't updated. Go forward, sir. No problem. Let's move on. From the 14th, August 20, August 14th meeting. But anyway, um this fire you update, we b we basically addressed the most glaring issues of the 2018 document, 2017, 2018 documents. The main concern was density, our density table. [1:11:58, 1:12:18]: For our medium density went from 1.9 to 3.6, and then it jumped from three all the way up to six. So there wasn't any four, five, or six. And then high density started off at eight. So we corrected our density table and we made our document more in line with our recently adopted UDC. And we had a total of [1:12:18, 1:12:38]: Seven public hearings or public meetings in r in regards to this uh compliance comprehensive plan process. And we had an online survey that had over 300 hits. So we did a great job in po in the public part public participation phase. So we covered all our tracks with that. And uh like Mr. Gardner said previously, our next update would be [1:12:38, 1:12:39]: twenty twenty eight. [1:12:39, 1:12:59]: And uh it could be advised that we should do a a major rewrite instead of just a five-year update. Um because this document was originally done with Henry County and um NARC. So um maybe in about five years we should set aside funds to do a major rewrite of of the entire document. But um [1:12:59, 1:13:06]: But the the current document is is sufficient now. Uh we address all the the weaknesses of the document cause [1:13:06, 1:13:14]: Previously, we had been having too many comprehensive plan amendments. So this document will cut down on a number of comprehensive plan amendments that we have been having. [1:13:14, 1:13:34]: Okay. Go ahead, sir. Uh so who who do you recognize? Well I was gonna recognize Mr. Blount, but if he wants to allow you to go ahead. Well with the new one, the the the medium density goes up and then the uh uh high density goes up, is that correct? Uh the the high [1:13:34, 1:13:50]: High density stays the same, but the medium density goes all the way up to six. That's for medium density. Okay, gotcha. Yes. So we corrected that flaw that was in the previous document. [1:13:50, 1:13:58]: All right, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Uh Mr. Anderson, how how would this affect developers? [1:14:01, 1:14:12]: coming to the council making those requests, would this alleviate that request from developers if we [1:14:13, 1:14:33]: Feel the gap in, I guess, if if you will. Yes, sir. Um, I think um most of the comprehensive plan amendment application we have been we have been getting in the past is because of that medium density, that uh that discrepancy in the in the medium density table where it stopped at 3.6 units per acre, which was extremely low for medium density. [1:14:33, 1:14:40]: Anyway, so we fixed that flaw. So it should drastically reduce the number of comprehensive plan amendment applications we receive. [1:14:42, 1:15:02]: Okay, thank you. Yeah. Any other questions? Go ahead, please. Real if I think it's always helpful for people who don't tune in to know what we're doing. So folks understand that this is systematic progress in the city, and this is a part of the the plan that we send to the state that the state signs. [1:15:02, 1:15:22]: Off on it and understanding that what we're doing is a part of the plan. We're just not making decisions. This is putting a solid plan together for every step of the way that we're going. A little, a short explanation of herbiage of self-up so that the layperson out there watching the meeting understands. [1:15:22, 1:15:31]: understands this is in keeping with our total overall comprehensive plan as progress is growing the city and moving into the future. [1:15:32, 1:15:33]: Exactly. That's correct, sir. [1:15:35, 1:15:35]: All right. [1:15:36, 1:15:39]: Motion, second, maybe a second, motion. [1:15:41, 1:15:44]: Got a motion, got a second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [1:15:46, 1:15:49]: Damn it's decision. All right. Uh thank you, Mr. Anderson. [1:15:52, 1:15:56]: Council consideration to adopt a sanctification sanit. [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: Sanitation, sanitation, yeah, tongue tie, sanitation collection senior discount program for qualified senior citizens. Qualifying seniors will receive 75% reduction in the annual sanitation fees for their place of residence. To qualifying seniors must be age 70 or older, be an owner of a resident or of a single family. [1:16:18, 1:16:38]: Family dwelling for the discount is requested. The annual household income for the applicants residents from all sources does not exceed fifty-seven thousand two hundred dollars. Income must be confirmed by the most recent tax return and submit income documentation city on and before it says May 15th. Am I a [1:16:38, 1:16:58]: Assuming this May 15th, I'm asking because it didn't have a date behind it. So is this May 15th, 2024? Since May 15th, 2023 is already passed. May 15th of each year. This would be an annual process. Okay. And the reason why we said May 15th is so that you can have it on that tax statement, and the city does not have to send the revenue. [1:16:58, 1:17:01]: resident the difference between the cost. [1:17:01, 1:17:05]: All right. So May fifteenth each year. All right, Mr Aaron, go ahead, please with explanation, sir. Thank you. [1:17:06, 1:17:26]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Over the past several months, staff and the city manager have received numerous phone calls from our seniors in response to now that they're paying a new city tax and the sanitation fees and all of that are on their tax statement. And so the city manager wanted us to come up with a way of [1:17:26, 1:17:46]: reducing uh sanitation fees for our seniors. And so we came up with this process that the seniors that meet these requirements will receive a 75% reduction in their sanitation fees. And so the reason why, as I said, we put that May 15th date in is that we're gonna be working with the tax [1:17:46, 1:18:06]: tax commissioner to see if we can create a special code for the ones that qualify. So when they re because we have to send everything to the tax commissioner by June 1st so that it goes on the tax statement. So that they'll receive that reduction on their tax statement and not have to wait for the city to issue them a check for the difference. [1:18:06, 1:18:08]: And so we're asking. [1:18:08, 1:18:28]: uh council to approve this policy tonight and so next year this would go in into place since taxes have already been mailed this year. It this process will be in place to provide some relief for our seniors who are struggling financially uh to meet certain obligations. So we want to provide them with [1:18:28, 1:18:30]: This avenue for relief. [1:18:31, 1:18:33]: Mr Blount, why is what's your question, sir? [1:18:33, 1:18:47]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. I um I've gotten a lot of phone calls. Too many to uh c count on this, um, about because what happened with the seniors that have came into the city. [1:18:48, 1:18:52]: Um, because the city right now doesn't have [1:18:52, 1:19:03]: A home state exemption this year or next year because it would go to a referendum once this council sets it up. So we've got seniors that have come into the city. [1:19:04, 1:19:09]: that are seeing an increase in property value, which increases [1:19:09, 1:19:11]: How much they have to pay taxes. [1:19:12, 1:19:18]: And they're seeing from the city of Stockbridge an increase because of the city property tax. [1:19:19, 1:19:22]: And when we talked about this um [1:19:23, 1:19:24]: Sanitation bill. [1:19:25, 1:19:34]: One of the things I would discuss because I'm having so many seniors call me. I have a seniors event every single month. [1:19:35, 1:19:40]: And these people are calling me saying, What is going on? And one of the things I discuss with [1:19:41, 1:19:44]: Uh, our city manager. I discuss I want to see. [1:19:45, 1:19:55]: Um, if we could look at what it would take and what would be the cost to the city to offset the sanitation bill this year for the seniors [1:19:55, 1:20:13]: to offset that bill this year because of the tax and because a lot of these seniors are on fixed income and then because we won't they won't be able to have homestead exemption until twenty twenty five because it's gonna have to be voted on twenty twenty four, is that we look at [1:20:13, 1:20:21]: Now, how do we go about then doing the discount? I've asked for those numbers. [1:20:21, 1:20:26]: So for me, I can only go by that I need to see some relief. [1:20:26, 1:20:28]: This year instead of next year. [1:20:29, 1:20:36]: This spreadsheet is included in your package and it outlines how much money it would cost based on the number of people that. [1:20:36, 1:20:52]: receive this discount. If it was a hundred, it'll cost the city nineteen thousand eight hundred dollars. If it was a thousand, it would cost the city a hundred and ninety eight thousand dollars to offer those rebates. So this spreadsheet outlines [1:20:53, 1:20:56]: Yeah. What it would cost us for those rebates. [1:20:58, 1:21:03]: At the time of the discussions, which is not hasn't been I've talked to the discussion for me. [1:21:04, 1:21:12]: Because I think that uh you're on fixed income. Most seniors start fixed income at sixty five, age sixty five. [1:21:13, 1:21:26]: And because you have those seniors now with the increase in the uh in the property value and with the tax, I'd like to see that roll back that we discussed what that I discussed with the CD manager. [1:21:27, 1:21:38]: for this year and we do the discount for next year and those people that can apply and apply for a home state exemption for twenty twenty five because um [1:21:38, 1:21:43]: The seniors, the seniors that are calling me, they're hurting right now. [1:21:43, 1:21:45]: Because they are on fixed income. [1:21:46, 1:21:51]: And because these increases are hitting, we need to do something about that now. [1:21:51, 1:21:52]: In my opinion. [1:21:53, 1:21:59]: And that's why I wanted that paperwork to be put forward before we even uh put this on the agenda. [1:21:59, 1:22:03]: to have this brought forward in this way because something needs to happen this year. [1:22:07, 1:22:08]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:22:09, 1:22:13]: Thank you. And I I agree with you, Councilman Blount. Um [1:22:14, 1:22:19]: Homeowners do need relief. I do support staff's effort in. [1:22:20, 1:22:25]: Offering some relief through the senior discount program for sanitation services. [1:22:26, 1:22:27]: But I was also looking for. [1:22:28, 1:22:31]: The cafeteria list that was promised to the council. [1:22:31, 1:22:32]: To include [1:22:32, 1:22:36]: Tax exemptions for those homeowners who are on septic systems. [1:22:37, 1:22:39]: It was promised that it would be brought to the council today. [1:22:40, 1:22:40]: Um [1:22:41, 1:22:43]: So absolutely, I support relief. [1:22:44, 1:22:46]: The homeowners through the sanitation program. [1:22:47, 1:22:52]: And for those homeowners who are in septic systems. Again, the residents. [1:22:52, 1:22:55]: The majority of the newly annexed residents have [1:22:55, 1:22:57]: are in city council district four. [1:22:57, 1:23:00]: We have to be fair about what we're doing here. [1:23:00, 1:23:01]: They're paying [1:23:02, 1:23:02]: And two. [1:23:03, 1:23:03]: А [1:23:03, 1:23:04]: Sewer system. [1:23:05, 1:23:06]: But they have septic systems. [1:23:06, 1:23:07]: That's not fair. [1:23:08, 1:23:09]: So please. [1:23:09, 1:23:10]: When [1:23:10, 1:23:11]: Will the information for [1:23:12, 1:23:12]: Then [1:23:13, 1:23:14]: The text [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: Commissioner. [1:23:15, 1:23:17]: Provided that I forwarded. [1:23:18, 1:23:18]: To you all. [1:23:19, 1:23:22]: be presented to the council along with the cafeteria list [1:23:22, 1:23:24]: Of tax exemptions. [1:23:24, 1:23:25]: To include [1:23:25, 1:23:27]: Septic systems. [1:23:27, 1:23:29]: When will that be provided to us? [1:23:29, 1:23:30]: I expected it. [1:23:31, 1:23:32]: Today. [1:23:32, 1:23:52]: No ma'am. Um Ed Wall and myself have been working along with the tax assessors to put that together, that cafeteria list that would include septic, age, disability, veteran veteran status. We're working on that. We met last week and came up with some with some numbers. We're gonna run those, go back and run those again. [1:23:52, 1:23:54]: And with Mr um [1:23:55, 1:24:09]: Michael Harris and his crew and our goal is to bring that as soon as that's done, we're gonna bring that to you guys. But we have been working on that to get that to the council. Okay, but you promised me that it will be here at this work s work session today. [1:24:09, 1:24:21]: So this is a good idea. This is a separate sist separate program that we're offering away from exemptions. Exemptions won't happen until twenty twenty five if approved. [1:24:21, 1:24:23]: This is something that we put together. [1:24:23, 1:24:24]: Right. [1:24:24, 1:24:26]: that would potentially give relief [1:24:27, 1:24:36]: Immediately if approved, right? We'll give those rebates back. So that's an assistance that happens right now. Look at that. We also we're also efforting [1:24:36, 1:24:37]: put together. [1:24:37, 1:24:45]: That comprehensive cafeteria list uh that we said we would put together and Ed Wall and I, the financial advisor, been working to get that together. [1:24:45, 1:24:47]: And to bring that to the council. [1:24:47, 1:24:49]: And have council vote to move that forward. Yes, ma'am. [1:24:49, 1:24:57]: Can you also prepare a program for those homeowners who are in septic systems? [1:24:57, 1:25:00]: Just as you're doing with the sanitation program. [1:25:00, 1:25:03]: For seniors, I believe. [1:25:03, 1:25:05]: That most of those homeowners once again. [1:25:06, 1:25:07]: who are on septic systems. [1:25:08, 1:25:10]: They are in city council district four. [1:25:11, 1:25:12]: They need relief as well. [1:25:13, 1:25:14]: They can't wait. [1:25:14, 1:25:21]: until twenty twenty five. I believe it's fair for us to also offer a discount reduction. [1:25:21, 1:25:25]: roll back or something for them next year. [1:25:25, 1:25:26]: Not in twenty twenty five. [1:25:27, 1:25:47]: If it's the wisher council, we would add that, but that was not the initial direction. The initial direction was to look at septic as part of the exemption on property tax. That's what was discussed. This is totally separate from that. But it was also it was also directed for staff to bring this back to the council. [1:25:47, 1:26:07]: Order may make a decision that would be effective in 2025. Not 2025. The point of order is we're getting back off track. The agenda item is specific in regards to sanitation. I do understand Councilwoman Barber's concerned. [1:26:07, 1:26:14]: But that has to be taken up at some other time and addressed at some other time because on the agenda for tonight. [1:26:14, 1:26:17]: We're specifically talking about sanitation. [1:26:17, 1:26:17]: Right. [1:26:18, 1:26:35]: Okay, point over well taken. We'll stick on sedimentation. You already mentioned, uh, Mr. Gardner that you got some additional information you're gonna bring back to us a little later. Um that was brought discussed earlier. Some things you're gonna bring back to the council later. Well that's a later date. That's the whole tax exemption cafeteria program that we discuss. [1:26:35, 1:26:55]: Okay. But once again, we never discuss doing something to this year that was discussed as a tax exemption as part of property tax. This is totally separate. Mr. Gardner, point of order to you two. We're talking specifically about sanitation. Yes. Right? So I got it. [1:26:55, 1:27:15]: I direct you for everything, the kitchen sink, and I believe Councilman Barber stated that as well. So when you bring it back, we can take a look at all of those things. Yes. But when when maybe when to bring it back? Because I expected that we would be dis voting that we would be voting on it to implement it in twenty twenty four. [1:27:15, 1:27:27]: Ms. Garner, Ms. Gardner, what's the reasonable time you can get back to us with this so we can move on? Our goal is to hover to you guys either at the next meeting or the work session to discuss. Work session? We have [1:27:27, 1:27:42]: I want everyone to understand, yes, this is staff, but this is also taking into account other entities that we have to gather information from. Right? So it's Thank you. It's work rook session in November. Can you do that make sure? All the information has already been provided to you. Mayor. [1:27:42, 1:27:53]: Work session in nov in no November. Mr uh Mr uh Aaron, let's go on with this sanitation piece, right? Let's go on with this piece. I think are you done? Are you are you done with your convers are you done with your presentation? [1:27:53, 1:28:09]: Yes, sir. Any other and specific questions from the council about sanitation only? I do. Okay. Once Ms uh Gantt, go ahead please. Thank you. Is well has a study been done to know what that financial impact would be towards the city? Um I'm not [1:28:10, 1:28:18]: against I I hear it loud and clear, but we you know, I don't want to put a band-aid on something that [1:28:18, 1:28:26]: And I get it. The tax exemption, sanitation, we're trying to do things to help the seniors who are on fixed income. [1:28:27, 1:28:28]: The taxes [1:28:28, 1:28:30]: They have increased tremendously. [1:28:31, 1:28:40]: did not come from the city. Let me be clear, it came from the Board of Education. And one of the things that people aren't I don't believe they're more [1:28:42, 1:28:57]: informed of is that specifically um that taxes were raised across the board, both the county and then we implemented a tax. So my question to you is [1:28:58, 1:29:00]: In regards to sanitation. [1:29:00, 1:29:14]: Whether or not we have done a study of some sort to show the financial impact it will be on us based off of age group seventy or sixty-five. [1:29:14, 1:29:19]: So a at in our preliminary conversation, Mr. Gardner and I [1:29:20, 1:29:21]: We [1:29:22, 1:29:34]: Our numbers so that at seventy, it would be a hundred or less that would meet those requirements. And if it's a hundred or less, it'll cost us mine will say twenty thousand a year. [1:29:35, 1:29:37]: To provide that service to seniors. Okay. [1:29:38, 1:29:41]: And do you know what it would be at sixty fi age sixty five? [1:29:42, 1:29:49]: If we was at age sixty five, you're probably talking about three to four hundred. [1:29:50, 1:29:54]: At age sixty five, that that would qualify under this program. [1:29:54, 1:30:03]: So that's probably gonna cost you like a hundred and ten thousand, hundred and fifteen thousand a year, but we've got a healthy fund balance in [1:30:04, 1:30:23]: in sanitation and one of the things the program does say f pending that funding is available because we would not use general funds for this program. It'd have to be the sanitation f fees themselves that we use for this reduction. Excellent. And I I do like that. And I want [1:30:23, 1:30:40]: Mayor and Council to consider in the future. That that that's excellent and that's very detailed and thank you for that, for having those numbers ready for us. Um and because it is depending on the fund amount that we have in that balance, whether what you can approve. [1:30:40, 1:30:58]: I see no problem with it. Um I do however want us to be cautious in the future of what we're spending and what you know, we implement a tax because we c we we gotta be able to pay for certain things and then we discount every single thing. [1:30:58, 1:31:01]: We we're gonna have to come to some type of realisation that [1:31:02, 1:31:03]: You know, um [1:31:03, 1:31:05]: Because I'm not gonna vote. [1:31:05, 1:31:09]: Again to increase a tax to cover other stuff that we [1:31:10, 1:31:16]: discounting just to appease or get votes for. I'm not doing that. So but this particular thing [1:31:16, 1:31:18]: In regards to sanitation. [1:31:19, 1:31:23]: I like the way it was planned. I love the they the thought of it's been you know [1:31:23, 1:31:38]: The age sixty five, you have the facts on what it would cost us. The age under uh seventy, we're looking at it affects a hundred people and the people who uh will be able to apply. So that makes sense to me and it's not coming out of our main b budget. [1:31:39, 1:31:46]: So it would be up to council whether they want the aid at sixty-five or seventy. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion. Go right here, sir. [1:31:46, 1:31:51]: I would like the age to come down to age sixty five, but also in that motion. [1:31:52, 1:31:54]: I would like to have that rebate. [1:31:54, 1:31:58]: given this year and a discount applied also to next year. [1:31:59, 1:32:00]: prior to um [1:32:02, 1:32:08]: Each resident being able to apply for home state exemption as they would have with the county. [1:32:10, 1:32:12]: So they're seconded that motion. I second that. [1:32:12, 1:32:24]: Ms. Barber second now. All in favor, please indicate. Well I have a question. I think Mr. Aaron your mouth were moving but you weren't saying so. I was about to ask how long I mean, we're in October, so how long is it gonna take to prepare for that? [1:32:25, 1:32:45]: See the the the thing about it is you're gonna have to obtain that financial information. You have to put put the put the information out there to people to apply for it. So you gotta go through and verify those incomes through their tax statement. So the ones that will submit the information, that's gonna be the holdup is we're gonna have to have a deadline saying you need to have this information. [1:32:45, 1:32:52]: information to us by a certain date so that we can start processing those and get them back to them in a timely fashion. [1:32:53, 1:33:05]: Mr. Aaron, if we get if we put this out and then and we saying in in May that it has to be set up and everybody apply for that in May. But if you want the rebate [1:33:06, 1:33:26]: back from this year for the sanitation, then I dunno I'm okay with a ninety day window. No. As long as the city put it out there. And if it doesn't happen in the ninety day window, which will put us in uh toward the the end of January, which is prior to the m the May date for what you all established, I'm okay with that. I just [1:33:26, 1:33:26]: Yeah. [1:33:27, 1:33:36]: Some in in in my opinion, just something needs to happen this year because I'm getting too many calls and not to stand [1:33:37, 1:33:39]: And I'm trying not to sound political. [1:33:40, 1:33:43]: But we have to do something this year because [1:33:43, 1:33:48]: The people that are on fixed incomes are taking two hits. [1:33:48, 1:33:53]: They're taking a tax increase on their properties and they're taking a tax increase for for the city. [1:33:54, 1:34:04]: And those things aren't on the fixed income. It it just we need if we can offset it in any kind of way with the city and doing this and make it happen, I'd like to see us make it happen. [1:34:05, 1:34:25]: So 90 days you're talking about the thirty-first of January of twenty twenty four, they would have to submit the information to us to receive the rebate for this year. And then in order to receive for twenty twenty four, it has to be received by May 15th. I'm okay with that. So um Ms Mr Holiday, [1:34:25, 1:34:33]: Could you read back the motion, make sure we have it right, please? Make sure that this is understood. I I was about to um ask you that. So [1:34:35, 1:34:50]: I heard uh councilman Blount say that there was a motion to change the age to sixty five and apply to twenty twenty four. But then when I was hearing for this year and then I'm hearing Mr. Aaron said ninety days and we don't have [1:34:52, 1:35:01]: The the ninety days go to uh January thirty-first for them to apply for the rebate for sanitation rebate for this year. [1:35:01, 1:35:09]: And then they have to apply by May in order to that they get the rebate for the following year. Now [1:35:09, 1:35:14]: If the ones that applied this year for the rebate, couldn't they just also [1:35:15, 1:35:16]: Couldn't that also be um [1:35:17, 1:35:23]: Forward it for the following year so instead of them coming back? No, so because they wouldn't have their tax return for this year. Gotcha. Okay. [1:35:24, 1:35:27]: Then then that's the emotion you you got him miss holiday? [1:35:32, 1:35:43]: So let me demonstrate it. I have a question. It reads like it reads. It it reads like the like the consideration reads, but the the age changed to sixty five. [1:35:46, 1:36:00]: The only thing that's different is they have to apply for a rebate within ninety days uh up until January thirty first. Of twenty twenty four to receive the twenty twenty four to receive the sanitation rebate. For this, for twenty twenty. For twenty twenty three. [1:36:02, 1:36:12]: And for twenty twenty four to get the rebate, they need to apply for it by t May of twenty twenty four. Yes. Right. May fifteenth of twenty twenty four twenty twenty four. Okay. [1:36:13, 1:36:14]: Okay, so I have a question. [1:36:15, 1:36:35]: So the sanitation for twenty twenty four is what Bill that you sent to Mr. Harris on the tax statement. Right. But that's the new rate. Yes. So they will get a rebate for the new rate, not the previous twenty twenty-three rate, but the new rate for twenty twenty four. Yes. [1:36:35, 1:36:36]: Great. Thank you. [1:36:37, 1:36:54]: And we need to r you need to read it one more time, make sure we got it straight. Mr. Blountson compliance here. Agrees with it? No. We good? Yeah, I think she's gone. All right. Miss Ms. Gatton, you had a question? I I have one more question. Is this possible the process? Well you have the people in place. Who's going to do what? [1:36:55, 1:36:59]: I just wanna make sure that we're not setting this up to because [1:36:59, 1:37:02]: I I agree with it. I support it. [1:37:02, 1:37:07]: But I wanna make sure that we have time to set it up. I mean, it's like [1:37:08, 1:37:10]: It it's January already. [1:37:10, 1:37:17]: So So I'm trying to figure out how how what you what are you gonna need to make this happen? The process is [1:37:17, 1:37:20]: The policy request then to submit the information to finance. [1:37:21, 1:37:41]: since they're the keeper of the city's funds. And finance will verify that they meet the income requirements. And so if they meet the income requirements for this year, then you send them the rebate. And if they meet the income requirement going forward, then they submit that information to Public Works. And when we submit [1:37:41, 1:37:44]: that information to the tax commissioners. [1:37:44, 1:37:49]: office, then we'll have a code that identifies the people that [1:37:49, 1:38:03]: receive the rebate so that way they're never billed a full amount for sanitation fees. They just billed twenty five percent of the sanitation fees. So we don't have to send them a check. Okay. Uh um uh mayor go right sir. [1:38:04, 1:38:20]: How long does that take, what you think finance would take to get those numbers? Because it does shorten the time. So for for not but those that are asking for 2024, they'll have from January, they'll have five months to get that information. If they want to rebate, I think they'll meet the deadline. [1:38:21, 1:38:29]: And then we just gotta be firm it's gonna be some people that come after the deadline. After this information is given to the tax commissioner, then [1:38:29, 1:38:30]: Yeah. [1:38:30, 1:38:40]: council's gonna have to make a decision whether they extend it or give them a grace period or anything like that. But if we got a date, they got five months, I think that's sufficient time for people to [1:38:40, 1:38:40]: Mm. [1:38:41, 1:38:46]: Get that information to No, I got that. I'm talking about the the time for the rebate. [1:38:47, 1:39:03]: for this year. We said d January thirty first, which is roughly just a little bit over ninety days. Yes. But how long does it take finance to get that information together? But it uh like I said, I'm thinking it's gonna be less than three hundred people. [1:39:04, 1:39:10]: If that many it shouldn't take that long to Okay, you've got to review tax documents, you know, and [1:39:10, 1:39:28]: Since that's gonna be coming out of what you you the budget part that you're talking about by so can you let me know when they got that set up so I know that they're actually putting it out to the uh residents. And we just have to make a uh a line item in the budget as well to account for the rebate. But that's be an expense that [1:39:30, 1:39:33]: Well expanse out. I appreciate that. Thank you. [1:39:33, 1:39:37]: So we revise the motion. Motion made. Is that revised motion been seconded? [1:39:39, 1:39:42]: Yes, Miss Ban. Okay, Ms. Kant, just second that. All in favor, please indicate. [1:39:43, 1:40:01]: Unanimous decision. Okay, fantastic. Okay, now we are going back to our previous item that we uh we deferred that deals with uh council consideration approved the intergovernmental IDA between the city of Stockbridge and Citywide Development Authority. [1:40:01, 1:40:09]: The second session. No, no, no, sir. We got we w what Oh you said you want to talk about after the Zecca. After the second session? Okay, excuse me. I put it [1:40:09, 1:40:12]: Okay, after the second session then, so be it. Okay. [1:40:14, 1:40:17]: All right, keep me straight. All right. [1:40:19, 1:40:39]: Okay, on that note, then let's sue here. Announcements of upcoming meetings and events. Council meetings will be held at the city council chambers, meeting dates, location, time subject to the change of the contact contact city hall offices, 770-389-7900 for updates. Starbury Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting, first Thursday of each month. 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I said Thursday. I said Thanksgiving. See there, that's what happens. The tease. Halloween is tomorrow night, ladies and gentlemen. Not Thanksgiving. Right. Okay. And by the way, on that note, uh Council, we have a Zegular session, so I need a motion and going to the mirror, real quick. Yes, sir. I do understand that the cost. [1:44:47, 1:45:06]: Clasco gas is going to open on November the second. No, I didn't know that. They're gonna open early. So the discount gas, with gas prices being where it is, they're gonna open the gas uh portion on the Okay, I didn't I didn't realize it. Okay, good deal. Thank you for that. I needed uh motion to go to Zagler's session, please. [1:45:06, 1:45:12]: Uh well, we need to make for legal personnel real estate? So moon? Oh. [1:45:13, 1:45:19]: Yes. Mr. Uh Blount made a motion. Ms. Gantt, you second that motion? I second. Okay, all in favor, please and okay. [1:45:19, 1:45:22]: Okay, we're going to take a station. We'll be back, ladies and gentlemen. [1:45:23, 1:45:25]: Citable consultant, red face. [1:45:26, 1:45:29]: Yeah. [1:45:30, 1:45:31]: Well we're kind of interested. [1:46:00, 1:46:03]: All right, council, I need a motion to end the executive session, please. [1:46:04, 1:46:05]: Sir a second. [1:46:05, 1:46:11]: Okay, from Mr. Blount and uh Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Is there uh all in favor of ending that concession? [1:46:11, 1:46:24]: Okay, it's an unanimous decision. I need a motion to uh uh reconvene our council uh city council work session, please. So move from mister from Mr. Blount and second to Mr. Alzhen or in favor please indicate. [1:46:25, 1:46:45]: All right. And ladies and gentlemen, I will tell you that we talked uh earlier about uh uh the citywide development authority and IGA, but there's nothing for us at this point to resolve or talk about that. We put it at the very end of the meeting. There's no other action uh the exact session that needs to be discussed at this point. Uh so on that note, uh council I need a motion to end our council. [1:46:45, 1:46:47]: Council meeting. So Mr. Blount, sir a second. [1:46:47, 1:46:50]: Ms. Barber Secondly, all in favor, please indicate. [1:46:50, 1:46:52]: Okay, we are journaled. God bless you all. [1:46:55, 1:46:55]: Wait a minute.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2023-10-09 source: 2023-10-09_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:10, 0:00:30]: Right? Okay, good deal. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to our ceremonial portion of our council meeting tonight. And um all these proclamations are always good news stories. But we're gonna start off with some uh serious heroes here. If I got this pronounced right, uh Vanesta. Vanisha Vanisha Gateway. [0:00:29, 0:00:32]: And Walter Stars, please come forward. [0:00:39, 0:00:50]: Yard dog? She's got what do you call it? Stellar brass? General Hospital. [0:00:50, 0:01:10]: So I want to want to come on this side, on this side, right? And what I want to do, I want to read this population uh for you all and I'll say thank you for all the things you do. You've been here uh all you are ampathy, server to protect and doing what you need to do. [0:01:10, 0:01:15]: Yes, maybe if you put ship this way, you're not in the case. [0:01:19, 0:01:39]: Let me try this again. Uh more than multi-star. Whereas emergencies with fire police, fire type of services can occur at any time response. These emergency responders is critical to the protection of life and preservation of property. And whereas during times of personal uh crisis [0:01:39, 0:01:53]: Paramedics are one of the first to come to contact a citizen who need emergency services. And their appropriate response to these persons being scriptable. Whereas on October 1st, 2023, we're in a concert at the Stockbridge Animal Theater, we produce it. [0:01:54, 0:02:00]: One sub citizen was unresponsive and appeared to be in cardiac arrest, but whereas paramedics unleash it. [0:02:00, 0:02:17]: Alicia, Katewood, Walter Stowards, with sure care DMS, and needed went into action hand to 180 minor chest compressions and sternal drugs. Whereas along with the assistance of Scarborough Police Department in Hammer County and Sheriff's Office, [0:02:17, 0:02:24]: Takes will provide on scene and transport to local hospital for further care. Whereas we are waiting for at the method. [0:02:25, 0:02:25]: I said. [0:02:26, 0:02:46]: Okay, Gabe Wood and Walter Stours, who have been in attendance from every Starbucks Happeat at the Compass of the 2023 season, were president of training and ready to wrap. Now therefore I am as more by virgin Cody Best and D as the mayor of the city of Starbucks George. And on behalf of City Council members up and down, honor Robert Tomblan, Keisha Gandhi and Paulo Thomas. [0:02:46, 0:02:55]: Do hereby acknowledge bullet and water stars for their own efforts on Saturday, October 1st, 2023. [0:02:55, 0:03:10]: And when the stereotypes I have here onto set by hand, Grace C of the City Stark day of October, we're on lower 2023. I started conservation on all our questions hollow. [0:03:20, 0:03:36]: Right. Now listen, whenever we whenever I do this right, then we allow you to have any comments. So uh whatever comments you want, the floor is yours. I let the lady go. Okay, fine. Oh, I'm just happy we were there to save this gentleman and we train product, we train what we do, this is what we do every day. [0:03:36, 0:03:56]: All right. Fantastic. Fantastic. I would just also like to give a honor to Christ that um lives inside of us for that knowledge and uh that he was able to be there with us to be able to do what we need to do for that young man and his family. So I give that knowledge to Christ. I appreciate that. Now obviously as you all know, we got two more concerts this year, so I'm looking forward to knowledge of that that you'll be. [0:03:56, 0:04:16]: Be present that is, present, right? Yes, yes. And also, you know, I'm gonna jump ahead. I'm gonna go out there and say, We'd like to see you next year as well for the entire season, right? Hey. Okay, so I'm gonna I stepped out there and uh so we'll see how things work. I'm pretty sure it'll be fine. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you very much. No problem, no problem. Okay. So wanna take a picture. Well we'll move this way to take a picture. [0:04:16, 0:04:17]: Nice way. [0:04:19, 0:04:22]: Put them in the middle. Someone get them in the middle if you can. [0:04:22, 0:04:23]: Okay. [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: Yeah. [0:04:30, 0:04:35]: Do you love it? Okay, you don't find it. [0:04:44, 0:04:56]: Maybe there are other people remainder of the scene in the graphics. [0:05:00, 0:05:08]: All right, what I what I have next is uh the proclamation for National Women's Small Business Month. And I believe we have an individual here ready to receive this as well. [0:05:10, 0:05:25]: How you doing? Great. Uh once you get on this side of me. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. This is National Small Women's Business Month. Whereas October is National Women's Small Business Month, which [0:05:26, 0:05:30]: Okay, I'm sorry. We're gonna m okay, excuse me. We're moving on down this way. [0:05:31, 0:05:51]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. We'll start over. Okay. Whereas October is National Women's Small Business Month, which means it's time to recognize women-owned businesses everywhere, as well as the outstanding pro progress of female entrepreneurs have made over the years. Whereas the US Small Business Administration is recognizing National Women's Small Business Month [0:05:51, 0:05:59]: And the countless women and small business owners who have per uh pursued their passion and taken a leap into entrepreneurship. [0:06:00, 0:06:04]: Women are a driving force in a nation's economy, starting most with new businesses. [0:06:04, 0:06:13]: They own nine point nine million companies that employ more than eight million people and provide two hundred sixty-four billion in wages uh to employees. [0:06:13, 0:06:22]: Whereas a growing number of women entrepreneurs has not happened by accident, a major contributive contributor to the growth of women-owned small businesses is legislation. [0:06:22, 0:06:42]: That targeted the creation of resources and networks for women. This year, the SBA also celebrates a milestone of 30 years since the passage of the Women's Business Ownership Act, HR 5050, which was aimed at leveling the playing field for women-owned businesses. It officially established the SBA's Women's Business Center, WBA program. [0:06:42, 0:06:42]: Ram. [0:06:43, 0:07:03]: Whereas entrepreneurship is booming for women in the United States and various businesses sectors, women are making a significant impact in professional services, health care, social services, education services, and apparel and accessories industries. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority of SME as a mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members elding now, Zani Lana. [0:07:03, 0:07:10]: Barber John, Blount, Lakese Gantt and Afonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim October as National Women's Small Business Month in the city of Stockbridge. [0:07:11, 0:07:30]: And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the ninth day of October, year of our Lord, 2023. And I signed a proclamation along with a clerk Vanessa Holiday. Congratulations. Thank you. So we need to go shift again. Shift again. So shift again down here for the photo, please. [0:07:35, 0:07:38]: Okay. All right. [0:07:45, 0:07:58]: Well I just appreciate the opportunity to represent women. We've been uh in business with a family business and we've been in business for twenty-one years right here in Stockbridge and we're proud of that. [0:07:58, 0:08:02]: What's the name of the thing? [0:08:19, 0:08:39]: Shut up. Next proclamation is uh breast cancer awareness month and it's which is October, so uh obviously uh the pink is the color this month. So uh that's uh I need a bit I've just got a little bit of pink right now. I get more as time goes on. But anyway, now obviously we have a luncheon uh on uh [0:08:39, 0:08:59]: This Thursday, uh honoring and and and uh worshiping and and trying to pay palm homage to those breast cancer survivors. So anyway, if there's anybody, any ladies in here uh that uh breast cancer survivors, as I come on up as I read this if you're a breast cancer survivor, if you're available, any ladies? And of course I've been told and [0:08:59, 0:09:16]: been documented the men also get breast cancer a small percentage though but it's primarily of course a disease where that deals with women. How you doing ma'am? I'm good. Matthew Ford, what's your name? Eminent. Eminently come on over to the side please. Well actually we gotta get screwed down some come on down this way for me. Okay. [0:09:18, 0:09:18]: All right. [0:09:19, 0:09:26]: Breast Cancer Awareness Month, whereas Breast Cancer Awareness Month began in nineteen eighty five as a partnership between American Cancer Society [0:09:26, 0:09:29]: І Imperial Kemikal Inde Industries Farma Suticos. [0:09:30, 0:09:42]: AstraZeneca and whereas sent uh cancer touches every nearly every family in America, nearly three hundred thousand women will be diagnosed with breast cancer this year, and one in eight women in America will be diagnosed with the disease in their lifetimes. [0:09:43, 0:10:03]: And whereas we have made enormous progress in a decades-long fight against cancer, discovering new pro uh prevention and early detection measures and exploring medicines and therapies to extend to save lives. Whereas during breast cancer awareness month, we recognize women and men who courageously fight to survive, detect, treat, prevent, and support survivors. [0:10:03, 0:10:16]: of this devastating disease. And if you are a breast cancer survivor or have been recently diagnosed, October is a great time to be reminded for you, not or you are not alone. We encourage all women and men to find out if they have an increased risk [0:10:16, 0:10:36]: And to learn more about recommended screenings and speaking with your health care providers, early detection and treatment can save lives. Now, therefore, I, Anthony Square, by virtual authority vested in me, as the mayor of the city of Star Base, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Ilana, Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim October as breast cancer. [0:10:36, 0:10:56]: Awareness month, the city of Stockbridge. And we encourage and invite everyone to join us on Saturday, October 14th, in the city's annual uh pink love walk at Clark Community Park as we walk to support the remembrance of those impacted by breast cancer and witness thereof. I have hereunto sent my hand, Grace Seal, the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 9th day. [0:10:56, 0:11:05]: Of October year of our Lord 2023, and once again I signed the proclamation along when I cleared Vanessa Holiday. And I'm gonna use that remote. [0:11:07, 0:11:24]: No, before we go, only if you thought if you had the floor if you want to say anything at all. It's up to you. Well, first I want to thank you guys for honoring us. Okay. Those of us that have went through the um cancer and the breast cancer. And my heart goes out for the ones that didn't make it. [0:11:24, 0:11:39]: And I really wanna thank you guys for just the appreciation and um thank God for allowing me to still be here and cancer free. Okay, fantastic. Fantastic, fantastic. [0:11:45, 0:11:48]: Take this one. Do you want to compete? Okay. [0:12:15, 0:12:20]: [742.6, 762.6]: Okay, uh another proclamation here world mental health day. Is anybody here to receive this? World Mental Health Day. Okay. Let me go ahead and read this proclamation as well, put it in the record. Whereas World Health Organization recognizes World Mental Health Day on October 10th. [0:12:42, 0:13:02]: Of every year. This day is centered around rising awareness of mental health issues around the world and improving mental health care to all populations. Whereas the theme of the 2023 World Mental Health Day is mental health is a universal human right. Whereas mental health problems exist in our lives, with our families, the workplace, and throughout communities, impacting everyone. [0:13:02, 0:13:22]: Pandemic highlighted and exacerbated the global mental health crisis, fueling short and long-term stretches and undermining the mental health of millions. Estimates put on a rise of both anxiety and depressive depressive disorders at more than 25% during the first year of the pandemic. At the same time, mental health services were severely interrupted. [0:13:22, 0:13:30]: And the treatment gap of mental health conditions was widened. Whereas World Mental Health Day is a chance to talk about mental health in general. [0:13:30, 0:13:50]: How we need to look after it and how important it is to talk about things and get help if you or someone you know is struggling. Stigma and discrimination continue to be a barrier of social inclusion and access to the right care, but we can all play our part in increasing awareness about our preventive mental health interventions work. [0:13:50, 0:14:10]: Now uh now therefore I, Anthony S. Florida, virtual authority, invested in me as Mayor of the City of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members, Alexander Lana, Barber John, Lukeese Gantt and Afonso Thomas, we hereby proclaim October 10th, 2023, as World Mental Health Day in the City of Stockbridge. And we encourage everyone to show your support in making mental health a progress. [0:14:10, 0:14:30]: already in our community and wear a green ribbon in support. The witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand, raised seal of the city starbridge, Georgia, on the ninth day of October, year of our Lord 2023. And of course I signed this along with our cleric Vanessa Holiday. [0:14:40, 0:14:49]: Thank you. Okay. And they have one more proclamation and this deals with domestic violence awareness month. [0:14:50, 0:14:53]: Anybody here receive that? Okay. [0:14:54, 0:14:56]: So domestic violence awareness one. [0:14:56, 0:15:16]: October is domestic violence awareness month, a time when victims, allies, advocates, and the community at large come together to mourn lives lost to domestic violence, celebrate progress, and highlight resources available for victims. And whereas domestic violence is a pattern of abusive behavior that one intimate partner, current or former, uses to gain and maintain control. [0:15:16, 0:15:36]: Control over another. This abuse can occur in the form of physical, verbal, emotional, sexual, and economic control. Batteries often use multiple tactics such as isolation, intimidation, sexual and physical assault, forced substance abuse, insult, threatening, assess the monitoring to control and manipulate victims and survivors. [0:15:36, 0:15:56]: Whereas the massive violence affects millions across the US, regardless of cultural background, ethnicity, sexual orientation, faith, socioeconomic status, ability, educational background, this means it's very likely we all know someone who's a victim or a survivor, and someone who is an abuser. And whereas victims and survivors need comprehensive services, but more so [0:15:56, 0:16:16]: Genuine and non-judgmental support from friends, family, and our community. Whereas educational awareness, education and awareness are critical components of the effort to end test violence, please contact Avon House at 770-954-1008 or the crisis line at 770-954-29 screen. [0:16:16, 0:16:36]: Me 9229 for help and assistance. Now, therefore, I anti-S Ford, our virtual authority of SMEs, and mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alizani Lana, Barber John, Blount Nikushagan, and Afonso Thomas, we hereby proclaim October is domestic violence awareness month in the city of Stockbridge. And we call on citizens and communities to join the movement. [0:16:36, 0:16:55]: And domestic violence, we must do our part to support victims and survivors to come together as a community to end this abusive behavior. A witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand on the great COC Stockbridge, Georgia, on the ninth day of October, year of our Lord, 2023, and I signed once again the proclamation of Monarch Claire, Vanessa Holiday. Okay? [0:16:59, 0:17:17]: We were taking this photo and this picture and recognizing a domestic violence awareness one, something we've been doing for quite some time. Anybody can come up and join us and show support uh for that ballot. If you want to. If that's it. If you want to come up. [0:17:17, 0:17:18]: [1050.0, 1052.5]: Wait. [0:17:35, 0:17:37]: Okay. [0:17:55, 0:17:59]: I have uh I have uh this all of proclamations but I actually have some uh [0:17:59, 0:18:10]: post of office that I need to read. That's where some folks in. And so we'll start with the youth council advisory committee member. Miss Shawnee Davis. Miss Davis? Yeah okay there she is. [0:18:15, 0:18:26]: Come on this side. We're gonna try to get in the mid right there, the crest is right there. Okay So we're gonna I'm gonna uh raise your right hand, I'll raise mine as well. I'm gonna try to change this small snippet. So if you repeat after me. All right. [0:18:27, 0:18:35]: I state your name. I Shawana Davis. Committee member? Committee member. Do solemnly swear and affirm? Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. [0:18:36, 0:18:56]: Perform the duties of the youth council advisory committee. The duties of the youth council advisory committee of the city of Stockbridge and the City of Cybergridge and that I will and that I will to the best of my ability to support and defend the charter thereof as well as the constitution as well as the constitution and laws and laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America and the United States of America. [0:18:56, 0:19:16]: I further affirm that. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. And any accounted for public money. Do and payable to the state. Do and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. [0:19:15, 0:19:30]: Nor do I hold any other office of trust of the governor of the United States of this state or any foreign state that's prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. [0:19:30, 0:19:49]: I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge and to the best of my ability without fear, without fear, favor, affection, reward, reward, or expectation thereof or expectation thereof. This is ninth day of October, year of our Lord, 2023. [0:19:49, 0:19:55]: Congratulations. [0:19:56, 0:19:57]: Okay, okay. [0:19:59, 0:20:13]: We're going we're gonna sign a couple of documents here. And do you have any comments that you anything you wanna say? Um no, I'm really excited to get started with the youth and happy and thankful to my family and friends that came out to support me. Um so thank you to everyone. Okay, fantastic. Good job. [0:20:15, 0:20:17]: [1218.7, 1225.5]: I'm gonna use a sign here and there as a bullying pad. [0:20:30, 0:20:50]: We need to really get that wire across. Now Miss Holloway assigned us as well and then it'll get you a copy of that. This is your pen. Okay. I'll let you have that pen right. Okay. And uh you can put that pen on yourself and then okay. And uh thank you very much. [0:20:49, 0:20:52]: Okay, let's put it on the [0:21:11, 0:21:19]: And I have one more. Um Jalen Jenkins. Okay. [0:21:24, 0:21:44]: How are you doing, Jalen? Hi. When do you go to school? Uh Stockbridge. Stockbridge high school. Fantastic. Good deal. Right in the middle here. Now the young lady just got sworn in and she's gonna be on an advisory board. And this is I was just one of the young folks in the in the on the committee. I'm gonna swear in it. Okay. So you all become best friends, right? All right. All right. So raise your right hand and repeat. [0:21:44, 0:21:46]: I state an A. [0:21:46, 0:22:06]: I generally do solemnly swear that I will support uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and the laws thereof that I will support uphold and defend up the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia and the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:22:06, 0:22:18]: Georgia. Not inconsistent. Not inconsistent. Therewith. Therewith. I will do I will ob observe. I will observe. And obey the laws. And obey the laws. And ordinances. And ordinance. [0:22:18, 0:22:22]: Of the city of Stockbridge? Of the city of Stockbridge. Georgia. Georgia. [0:22:22, 0:22:42]: That I will faithfully perform and discharge the duties are coming upon me upon me as a member of the city of Stockbridge Youth Council. Of the city of Startbridge Youth Council. Fairly and honestly. And honestly. And the best of my skill and ability and ability. So help me God. So help me God. [0:22:42, 0:22:52]: Ninth day of October, you're our Lord, twenty twenty-three. It's the ninth of October, you're in twenty twenty-thirty. Congratulations to you. Congratulations. [0:22:52, 0:23:07]: It's already started to work. That's our top screen on the cleanup. Congratulations. And if we assign here and there, okay, then by your name? [0:23:24, 0:23:35]: Do you want do you have anything the floor show? Do you have anything you want to say? Um not really. I'm just really excited to start making my impact on the city of South Jason. That's a good message to thank you. [0:24:00, 0:24:02]: [1443.0, 1444.8]: It's a good night. [0:24:05, 0:24:09]: Does what clock in the bar is well today? [0:24:10, 0:24:17]: Any other any other members in for the new council high report? Anybody else? [0:24:30, 0:24:31]: Mm-hmm. [0:24:45, 0:24:49]: All right. Is it? [0:24:49, 0:24:53]: That ends our ceremonial partion, so but uh we [0:24:53, 0:25:01]: We have ten minutes left ten minutes before we have to start a meeting. So you're more than welcome obviously to stay as long as you like to public meeting. We'll get started about 10 minutes. All right. [0:25:02, 0:25:03]: Yeah, [0:25:33, 0:25:38]: Yeah, I can't try to model. [0:27:40, 0:27:40]: [2014.0, 2026.2]: Okay, there we go. All right, outstanding. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have um 602. So on that note I wanna call our council meeting for Monday, October 9th to order. [0:33:47, 0:33:52]: And on that note, uh if you can please stand for the invocation, Mr. Thomas, please. [0:33:57, 0:33:58]: Good evening. [0:33:58, 0:33:59]: evening. [0:33:59, 0:34:00]: If you would [0:34:01, 0:34:05]: All eyes closed, all hearts open. [0:34:06, 0:34:07]: Let us pray. [0:34:09, 0:34:10]: O Heavenly Father [0:34:11, 0:34:15]: All merciful, compassionate God. [0:34:16, 0:34:30]: We thank you for life on this great day. Oh Heavenly Father, we thank you for the opportunity to serve the great citizens. [0:34:30, 0:34:32]: Of the great city of Stark Ridge. [0:34:33, 0:34:35]: And we ask that you provide us [0:34:36, 0:34:38]: Вот all the necessary tools. [0:34:39, 0:34:40]: And resources. [0:34:41, 0:34:43]: To move this city forward. [0:34:44, 0:34:46]: And we pray that [0:34:46, 0:34:48]: I was serving. [0:34:49, 0:34:50]: It's pleasing. [0:34:50, 0:34:52]: In your eyesight. [0:34:53, 0:34:57]: Father, we ask that you just touch all of us today. [0:34:58, 0:35:03]: And bless all families, all families that are suffering. [0:35:05, 0:35:12]: This is your servant's prayer. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. [0:35:13, 0:35:26]: For Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America, and to the Republic for which stands one nation, underground, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:35:27, 0:35:29]: Madam Clerk Rocal, please. [0:35:31, 0:35:33]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:35:33, 0:35:37]: Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Present. Councilman Alexander. [0:35:37, 0:35:51]: Rit. Councilman Blount. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, do you have a call? Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Mr. Thomas, um, I'm gonna need the amendment to the agenda, please. [0:35:52, 0:35:53]: Mayor Ford and Council. [0:35:54, 0:35:56]: I move that [0:35:56, 0:35:58]: The public hearing agenda item. [0:35:59, 0:36:00]: Six. [0:36:01, 0:36:03]: Agenda item eight. [0:36:05, 0:36:06]: Agenda item nine. [0:36:07, 0:36:09]: Agenda item ten. [0:36:10, 0:36:12]: Agenda item eleven. [0:36:13, 0:36:15]: Agenda item twelve. [0:36:16, 0:36:20]: be deferred until the November [0:36:20, 0:36:23]: thirteenth twenty twenty three meeting. [0:36:24, 0:36:27]: At the applicant's request. [0:36:28, 0:36:32]: And those items will not be heard tonight. [0:36:34, 0:36:38]: Is there a second to that amendment? I second. Ms. Gantt, second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:36:39, 0:36:43]: Can you read out the one can you read the numbers out of the yeah? [0:36:44, 0:36:51]: Um those agenda items that was in the motion are agenda item six. [0:36:52, 0:36:54]: Agenda item eight. [0:36:55, 0:36:57]: Agenda item nine. [0:36:58, 0:36:59]: Agenda item ten. [0:37:00, 0:37:02]: Agenda item eleven. [0:37:03, 0:37:05]: Agenda item twelve. [0:37:06, 0:37:09]: And the and they will be deferred [0:37:10, 0:37:16]: until the November thirteenth, twenty twenty three meeting. [0:37:17, 0:37:22]: Yeah. And these deferrals are at the request of the applicant. [0:37:22, 0:37:30]: Man, he didn't mention seven, which I have in my notes. It was seven, but in my in my notes square was to be heard. [0:37:31, 0:37:38]: No. Well this is uh what what he read is is accurate, sir. Seven's gonna be heard uh seven will be heard tonight. [0:37:39, 0:37:40]: But not twelve. [0:37:43, 0:38:03]: Okay. I need a motion to accept it, please. We had a motion to accept. I think Mr. Ms. Gantt, you sec you second that motion? Okay, all in favor, please indicate. Okay, unanimous unanimous decision. All favor? Unanimous decision. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Uh what I have before me also, what do you have before you is adoption of amendments retreat, uh draft retreat minutes? [0:38:03, 0:38:21]: minutes from August 10th and minutes from uh the uh retreat uh draft excuse me the draft minutes from august fourteenth and minutes from the august twenty ninth meeting and also the retreat minutes from from august eleventh. Um so I need a motion to accept those particular minutes please. [0:38:22, 0:38:26]: So more. It's okay. Is there a second? Mr. Blount second to our favorite, please indicate. [0:38:27, 0:38:47]: Okay, thank you very much. Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? There are no public comments, Mayor. Okay. Earlier today, ladies and gentlemen, we had a ceremonial um um part of our our agenda tour this evening, and several different proclamations were read and issued out. The National Women's Small Business Um uh [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: Awareness month was recognized. Domestic Violence Awareness Month was recognized. World Mental Health. Also breast cancer awareness month, which is October. And then uh we had uh two individuals from our medical community that are assigned to our amphitheater during our concerts during concert season and uh Venisa uh [0:39:07, 0:39:27]: Gatewood and Walter Stowers were also uh were also recognized as well for their their quick response to an attendee of our one October concert that occurred a little over a week ago and responded very adequately and and saved that life. Um so we have we recognize all those individuals with proclamations. [0:39:27, 0:39:47]: as well as uh we swore in uh an adult leader for for our youth council that was uh uh showanna davis was sworn in this evening as well and then another young lady for our youth council uh starbridge high school uh student uh jaylen jenkins were also sworn in earlier today congratulations all those individuals [0:39:47, 0:39:51]: schools and individuals that received the proclamations earlier this evening. [0:39:52, 0:40:12]: On that note, uh we have uh do we do actually have a public hearing um item. It would be item number um seven. Um now let's see here. So what I want to in reference to the public hearing, uh there are certain rules that we have for the public hearing. And uh first of all, of course, soft cell phones and electronics. [0:40:12, 0:40:32]: License need to be muted. If anyone wishes, of course, to speak tonight at a public hearing item, please fill out a form available on the table, hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by applicant or representative regarding the proposed plans for property along along with any other relevant [0:40:32, 0:40:36]: information, the council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. [0:40:37, 0:40:51]: Following an applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have approximately will have the opportunity to do so. And it says that each side will be allowed to ten minutes total. Additional time can be extended discretion to counsel. And we'll f face that if if it comes up. [0:40:51, 0:40:55]: Please keep comments and presentations professional referring to the facts [0:40:55, 0:40:56]: That are pertinent to the case. [0:40:57, 0:41:00]: Will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. [0:41:00, 0:41:04]: Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:41:05, 0:41:20]: After the presiding officer, which is me in this case, recognizes the speaker, he or she should direct all comments to the presiding officer, and never to members of the council, staff, or the audience. All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. [0:41:20, 0:41:40]: Please note that these hearings are not debate, and that's not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the buildings by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than an applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time, his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak. [0:41:40, 0:42:00]: next or la and last and may use the the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the counsel may ask the applicant to address questions and concerns. Presiding officer will call for a motion and a second of the motion and will have any necessary discussion. The matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for a vote. [0:42:00, 0:42:20]: And recommend approval or denial for the request. So what we have is which is item number seven, because several items were taken off until November 13th. This is a rezoning case of RZ 2023-02 since Council District 4. Consideration of a request for rezoning of three parcels on north side of Valley Hill Road from RR Rule. [0:42:20, 0:42:40]: Residential to C1 neighborhood commercial to allow for development of a single family detached residential subdivision. The applicant agent is a vet Morrison, representing the developer or builder. The property contains three parcels on Valley Hill Road and are listed below in landlot 92 of District 12 with 17.06 total acres within the city limits of stock. [0:42:40, 0:43:00]: Bridge 258 Valley Hill Road parcel S09-06010000 contains 2.249 acres. Zoned R R Rural Residential. 264 Valley Hill Road. Parcel number S08-010-10000 contains 6.41. [0:43:00, 0:43:20]: Contains six point five two five four acres. Zone RR residential Screamer Row residential parcel number S08-01020000 contains 8.2874 acres. Zone C1, neighborhood commercial. Staff recommendation is approval. [0:43:20, 0:43:25]: Commission recommendations approval as gonna be presented tonight by Mr Anderson. Please sir. [0:43:28, 0:43:29]: Expect uh [0:43:30, 0:43:41]: Like the Nair previously mentioned, uh three properties consist of 17.06 acres. Uh existing on the property now, including single family, single family residence. [0:43:50, 0:43:52]: Here's the aerial photo on the site. [0:43:53, 0:44:13]: And you can see that there are three parcels, and you can see that three parcels are all figures. And uh also keep in mind that these three parcels will have to be combined to create the 17.06 acre lot. Here's a live shot of 258 Valley Road. [0:44:13, 0:44:15]: An existing thing around the building. [0:44:16, 0:44:22]: Here's the last dot 264 value road. It's an existing single family residence. [0:44:25, 0:44:27]: Here's the survey. [0:44:29, 0:44:33]: Also here's a pencil plan that you can see sixteen units flatted out. [0:44:35, 0:44:37]: Sixteen cents a lot by that. [0:44:38, 0:44:42]: Here it's resolved. Uh thing that makes this [0:44:43, 0:44:43]: Yeah. [0:44:45, 0:45:05]: Most important thing that maybe staff consider this um should consider approval for this project is that it's compatible with existing zoning in the A. If you can look to the south, you can see that there's suburban residential zombie there. If you look to the um northwest, you can see some uh suburban residential uh [0:45:05, 0:45:21]: They're a suburban residential all throughout the neighborhood. And also the applicant did not require a comprehensive planning unit. So we will be sticking with the current land use designation of low density residential. And the current density of the project is one unit per acre, which is good. [0:45:23, 0:45:25]: There's a few delays that [0:45:45, 0:45:47]: They're these are the first to do. [0:45:49, 0:45:56]: So it won't be a typical uh cookie cutter type home. These would be some pretty fashionable [0:45:57, 0:46:17]: As you can see. Um like I previously mentioned, staff recommended uh approval of this application because it's consistent with the with the with the land use in the area of uh low density resolution. And um it has a density rate of one point zero acres per unit. [0:46:17, 0:46:25]: And it's consistent with the zone in the area. So staff recommended the food and the applicants here to that. [0:46:25, 0:46:34]: Okay. Um council you have any questions, initial counsel uh questions for Mr. Ryan or Mr. Anderson here or um you know? [0:46:35, 0:46:41]: Yes, ma'am. Go ahead please. Okay, since this is my district, I do have several comments. Um thank you, Mayor. [0:46:42, 0:46:49]: So one of the questions I have is you didn't mention um what the decision from the planning commission was. [0:46:50, 0:46:58]: Okay. It was unanimous. Okay. Sorry about that. [0:47:03, 0:47:12]: Normally um the district representative when a development is being presented or proposed, um the district representative [0:47:12, 0:47:16]: It's kinda given an overview beforehand. I didn't get that. [0:47:17, 0:47:20]: But nonetheless, I know for that area. [0:47:20, 0:47:23]: Valley Hill Road and Davis Road in particular. [0:47:23, 0:47:24]: Um the council. [0:47:25, 0:47:30]: Has already approved a lot of high density developments. I'm concerned about the infrastructure. [0:47:31, 0:47:36]: However, with this development, considering it is single family homes [0:47:36, 0:47:38]: And it's low density. [0:47:38, 0:47:41]: I will consider it. I've spoken with several homeowners. [0:47:42, 0:47:43]: In the area. [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: Single family homes is what they preferred. [0:47:47, 0:47:47]: Um [0:47:48, 0:47:51]: before the council approved the high density [0:47:51, 0:47:55]: multifamily residentials earlier this year. [0:47:57, 0:48:01]: My concern is all of the other proposed developments that are coming. [0:48:02, 0:48:06]: to City Council District Four on Valley Hill Road and Davis Road. [0:48:07, 0:48:12]: I can't support any more developments, especially high density multifamily. [0:48:12, 0:48:13]: developments. [0:48:14, 0:48:17]: Until we have a solid road and infrastructure. [0:48:17, 0:48:18]: Improvement plan. [0:48:19, 0:48:20]: With funds. [0:48:20, 0:48:21]: Allocated. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: Is there any [0:48:25, 0:48:26]: Um [0:48:26, 0:48:28]: plans of funding [0:48:28, 0:48:30]: Mr. Gardner or Mr. Anderson? [0:48:31, 0:48:36]: To help with the improvements of the roads and infrastructures on Valley Hill Road. [0:48:37, 0:48:39]: This year or next year? [0:48:41, 0:48:52]: Mayor. What's the point of order? The act this is about the rezoning case, uh the ro rezoning number twenty twenty three zero two. I don't want us to get into involved [0:48:52, 0:48:56]: Um, about everything that's going on in Valley Hill Road. [0:48:56, 0:49:11]: If there wants to be a discussion or maybe Councilwoman Barber can talk about that at one of her town halls, but this is not the place to campaign. This is the place to talk about this subject right here on number item number seven, so we can go ahead and move forward with the vote on that. [0:49:11, 0:49:19]: Now she stated she may consider that and we constant we we definitely heard her loud and clear. It also states down here [0:49:19, 0:49:21]: While reading. [0:49:21, 0:49:23]: Like at the bottom as normal. [0:49:23, 0:49:28]: what the recommendations were for the planning commission and the recommendation of approval. [0:49:28, 0:49:33]: on both through the through our department as well as here. It's in black and white. [0:49:33, 0:49:36]: And everyone on Mayor and Council has the responsibility of reading that. [0:49:37, 0:49:38]: What I'm saying to you is [0:49:39, 0:49:58]: That mayor, we shouldn't be talking about Ballor Hill in a broad perspective. This is solely about this property here today. Mayor Forrest. This is not time and place. Please, sir. Go ahead. Since I represent City Council District 4 and I'm responsible for the residents and homeowners in the area. [0:49:58, 0:50:01]: I have a responsibility to speak on their behalf. [0:50:01, 0:50:04]: They have concerns about the roads and infrastructure there. [0:50:05, 0:50:07]: Those are questions that have to be answered. [0:50:08, 0:50:09]: And I want them answered. [0:50:09, 0:50:10]: Publicly. [0:50:10, 0:50:12]: Алатва, хом онезерна хі. [0:50:13, 0:50:15]: They don't have a copy of the agenda. [0:50:15, 0:50:18]: So it's important that we have these conversations. [0:50:18, 0:50:19]: Publicly. [0:50:20, 0:50:21]: That's all. [0:50:21, 0:50:25]: Mr. Gardner has come to the podium, so I like for him. [0:50:25, 0:50:27]: То спік публі. [0:50:27, 0:50:29]: In regards to roads and infrastructure. [0:50:29, 0:50:34]: improvement specifically for that particular area. [0:50:35, 0:50:38]: Hold on, I understand your point or Mr Gardner, go ahead and answer the question, please. [0:50:38, 0:50:42]: So, as this council has been told on numerous occasions. [0:50:42, 0:50:50]: Under Georgia's current zoning procedures law, you cannot deny zoning based on roads and schools. [0:50:51, 0:50:51]: You cannot. [0:50:52, 0:50:59]: Georgia law prohibits there are only four or five jurisdictions in the entire states that are over the population of five hundred thousand. [0:50:59, 0:51:05]: That are allowed to use roads and schools and infrastructure as a basis to deny zoning. [0:51:05, 0:51:09]: So I wanna make sure we keep that so that we don't run a foul of that law. [0:51:09, 0:51:14]: Um as it relates to Rally Hill Road, Valley Hill Road came into the city January first, twenty twenty three. [0:51:15, 0:51:18]: And it was not on the splash list. [0:51:18, 0:51:21]: Or T Sploss list or the El Meg list for Henry County. [0:51:21, 0:51:23]: And as because he came in the city [0:51:23, 0:51:32]: after we have already donated, already allocated those funds for other road projects, it is not on our current SPLOS, T SPLOS or LMEG list. [0:51:32, 0:51:33]: Um [0:51:33, 0:51:36]: We're looking at ways in which we could potentially get. [0:51:36, 0:51:39]: Valley Hill on on on a payment schedule, but at this point [0:51:40, 0:51:41]: As we discussed before. [0:51:42, 0:51:46]: We can do this at the last town hall meeting we had, we discussed the [0:51:46, 0:51:55]: If we we have s plus six vote that comes up next year, we'll start obviously talking about those road improvements that we need to see done. [0:51:56, 0:51:59]: And that list will obviously once it's approved, that Sploss is approved. [0:52:00, 0:52:03]: Well then we'll receive funds in twenty twenty five. [0:52:03, 0:52:19]: If it's the wish of the council you can bond finance in the lieu of to pay for to get major projects done quickly, you can fund those to get those started quickly in twenty twenty five. Um at this point that's the earliest. We're looking at any opportunities we have. [0:52:19, 0:52:37]: But as it relates to our current funding source for roads, it's not on there and it was not on the county's list as well. And I think the county commissioner has spoken to the fact that she's looking to see if we could get some address to make it a participatory process where it's the city and the county putting some funds to make it happen if it does that way. [0:52:37, 0:52:41]: Thank you, Mr. Gardner. I appreciate the explanation. If I may [0:52:41, 0:52:48]: Mayor Ford. Go ahead, please. Okay. Um, so that is one of the biggest concerns that I've heard from [0:52:48, 0:52:50]: The homeowners who live in that area. [0:52:50, 0:52:52]: Um the lack of [0:52:52, 0:52:54]: uh planning or funding for road. [0:52:55, 0:52:56]: And infrastructure improvements. [0:52:57, 0:53:00]: That's what makes it difficult for me to support. [0:53:00, 0:53:04]: Multifamily high high density developments. [0:53:05, 0:53:09]: So of course I support our city's redevelopment plan. [0:53:09, 0:53:13]: Бо і максари when I can't explain to them. [0:53:13, 0:53:15]: Or share with them. [0:53:15, 0:53:17]: Rome projects that's coming. [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: To their district. [0:53:19, 0:53:22]: We have a responsibility to make sure that we are not [0:53:22, 0:53:24]: negatively impacting [0:53:25, 0:53:26]: The quality of life. [0:53:26, 0:53:28]: Other people who live in that area. [0:53:29, 0:53:31]: Mr. Gardner just told us [0:53:31, 0:53:34]: That area was newly annexed into the city. [0:53:34, 0:53:36]: At the beginning of this year. [0:53:36, 0:53:37]: But yet [0:53:37, 0:53:39]: That area specifically. [0:53:40, 0:53:45]: Has seen more proposals for development, high density proposals. [0:53:45, 0:53:47]: This year than any other district. [0:53:49, 0:53:49]: However, [0:53:50, 0:53:52]: The proposal that is before us [0:53:52, 0:53:53]: is a low density. [0:53:54, 0:53:56]: Single family residential homes. [0:53:59, 0:54:05]: I will stick with what we have on the agenda, but I still wanted to address the road and infrastructure. Um [0:54:05, 0:54:07]: Yeah, go ahead, Mr. Blount. [0:54:07, 0:54:14]: Thank you, Mayor. Um one of the things I want to say is that district um district four [0:54:15, 0:54:22]: is the largest district, not because of population, it's because of land mass. [0:54:22, 0:54:26]: And any time you have a any district anywhere because of landmass [0:54:27, 0:54:42]: You're gonna have people looking to come. Henry County is a gold mine and people are trying to come. There was things coming down the pipe with Henry County that are now coming to the city of Stockbridge. One of the things I do in my district, and I've done since I've been on this council. [0:54:43, 0:54:47]: If there's a development that's coming prior to even being in districts, [0:54:48, 0:54:57]: I didn't sit down with developers. I didn't negotiate with developers. I didn't put conditions on developers because you either want the project or you don't. [0:54:58, 0:55:03]: The only project that ever been moved here for дистрік дистрік фору. [0:55:03, 0:55:15]: Conditions was put on that uh developer by the count by the district representative. Even at the council meeting, they asked for us she asked for a swimming pool and they said, okay. [0:55:16, 0:55:18]: I I believe in allowing [0:55:18, 0:55:22]: the district representative to take the lead. [0:55:22, 0:55:31]: But if you're for a development or you're not for development, if you're for the development, don't put conditions on a developer. [0:55:31, 0:55:44]: Because when you put conditions on a developer and then you come here and now you're saying that all this is blowing up, then you either for a development or you're not. I've had development that try to come into district three. [0:55:44, 0:55:48]: You know what I told him? I don't need to meet with you because it's not smart development. [0:55:49, 0:55:53]: But when you meet with them and put conditions on them, they say yes. [0:55:54, 0:56:08]: Then we can sit here all day and play politics with it, but we only agree to the conditions that were set forth for that area, for those for that project by the district representative. That's what's going on here today. [0:56:08, 0:56:28]: Mr. Alexander, great place. Yes, thank you so much, Mr. Anderson. I think what needs to be clarified is, and I think Mr. Gardner, I don't know, maybe you might have the answer. Uh I know that the I think it's between a 50 and 60 million dollar road project for Highway 42 has gotten the let. [0:56:28, 0:56:38]: already. They could start any day now, widening Highway 42 from the Walmart all the way to exit 675, exit number two. [0:56:38, 0:56:44]: That's a fifty to sixty million dollar project. Part of that project includes intersection improvements. [0:56:45, 0:57:05]: I'm almost sure that Valley Hill Road has an intersection improvement in a$50 or$60 million project where they'll because that's what they always do when they have these projects, they analyze each uh interchange and they make recommendations on that. Is there any information that you have on the interchange there being uh improvements? [0:57:05, 0:57:22]: that are part of that pro because it's gonna be four lanes all the way down from the Walmart to exit two. There'll be a ten foot path along it, there'll be street lights and beautification too. So the improvements to the area are in this road project. A a sixty million dollar project. [0:57:22, 0:57:42]: Yes, that's correct, but I don't have the specifics for uh Valley Hill Road. I can get that for you. I can find out tomorrow and get that for you. Right. So any day now we're gonna be looking at track book um earth movement equipment out there starting because they have the let to get started already. So the contractor has been awarded, so they get started. This project is gonna take a couple of years. [0:57:42, 0:58:02]: Years for them to I think three two and a half to maybe three years for them to complete. But everybody needs to understand, and I'm just gonna close by saying this. Okay, and Mayor, you were at the uh grits and grace today. I was sheriff Sheriff Skander spoke very eloquently on this about us growing, correct? Correct. He said pretty much we already know. [0:58:02, 0:58:22]: Well I was gonna well yeah I do recall that, but I I was going to talk about that in my comments at the end, but but but it was very well attended a very well spoken type of conference in this aspect as we continue to get uh education wise, public safety wise, and also with the [0:58:22, 0:58:42]: clergy come together in the community is is growing. Henry County is growing. Stock city stock race is growing. And you're not gonna be able to stop the growth. I mean folks are coming to the South and to the economic development and opportunities that are here in the area. So uh we just gotta be prepared for that as best as possible across the board. Um but anyway, that's that's that's what I was going to say. Yeah I would I just wanted you to ch I just wanted you to [0:58:42, 0:59:02]: I was at I was there, Mayor Pro Tem was there as well. So he spoke very eloquently about this. And to understand, we have eight hundred million dollars secure in traffic improvements for this particular for our county. Our projects are at the end of the list because before we took over, there wasn't very much funding acquired. We have [0:59:02, 0:59:15]: endeavored every day since we took over to acquire funding. We got funding for Rock Quarry Road widening. We got funding for this project and meet and several others around here as well. The problem is it's gonna take time. [0:59:15, 0:59:35]: It is going to take time. But in the state of Georgia, you cannot simply deny, and the sort city manager just told you, based on traffic and uh other requirements. We got to understand, every last one of our districts are getting projects. We got to. They're coming. And we're doing the very best that we can to make these projects move through. [0:59:35, 0:59:40]: And it's it's tough call. But for something like this, for this one right here. [0:59:40, 0:59:55]: We can't stop growing. We can't. I just need to look at everybody and understand and say that. We cannot. When projects come to us, we gotta make very tough choices, but in the end, growth is coming for the same reason that you wanna come, other people are coming. Thank you. [0:59:56, 1:00:16]: You know, I just thought about something. Uh Georgia itself is the eighth largest state population wise in the nation. Got fifty states in the nation, right? Eighth largest population wise. Not the eighth largest area wise, but population wise. And if you think about that, you think about what states are could be larger and population are also larger in area. You know, you have California, New York, Florida. [1:00:16, 1:00:32]: uh Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio are all in that list somewhere. You see, but uh it's growth is coming. And I guess it was just announced uh just uh last week that uh once again Georgia is considered for the tenth straight year well the best state to do business with economically in growth. [1:00:32, 1:00:45]: It's a national thing. Ten ten years in a row. The jobs and economic growth. So it's good. So what's coming? Is this happening? Is this happening in the entire state? And it's happening right here here in the county. But anyway, on that note. And the other question for Mr. Ryan Council. [1:00:45, 1:00:46]: Hell. [1:00:46, 1:01:02]: Okay, everybody's good? Okay, so this is actually a public hearing. Uh so oh uh by the way, I'm sorry. Did you yeah, I'm sorry, sir. Did you wanna who who's who is it? Is it Yvonne Morrison? Yeah, what did you need to say anything, sir, to the council at all? You need you you [1:01:04, 1:01:13]: Okay. All right. All right. We'll see if that comes up a little later. All right. On this note, ladies and gentlemen, we're this is a public hearing, so I'm gonna open it up. And uh so [1:01:14, 1:01:34]: We're gonna start with any approvals. Let's start with the uh people that might have comments to approve. And uh we'll start from my very left uh my my very left side. Anybody in this section here that has comments for approval of this particular project? On the very left, in the middle. Anybody? On my right, anybody? Any any anybody? [1:01:34, 1:01:39]: For approval. Okay. So denial or comments and for denial. Anybody on the left hand side? [1:01:40, 1:01:41]: Okay? In the middle. [1:01:42, 1:01:47]: All right. Why don't you line up on this side, ma'am? On that side. Anybody else in the middle? All right. [1:01:47, 1:01:56]: Anybody else on uh yeah on on this side. Yes, ma'am. Come on over and line up on this side please if you can. All right. Any comments uh against or uh disapproval on this aspect? Okay. [1:01:57, 1:02:17]: All right, so we it looks like we have three folks. Okay, so on that note, uh what it is is that um uh w somebody had three people. We we have ten minutes for for the three people itself, so be mindful of that in this aspect. And when you come before the podium, put your name and your name and address, your name and address, and please address me with your comment. [1:02:17, 1:02:18]: Go write it please. [1:02:21, 1:02:41]: Connie Snow, 426, Chase, Marion Way, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. While I understand that our state is one of the top eighth growth areas, there is a thing, such as smart development. And there is a thing as not building all these multi-use developments around here and securing the land and taking it away from people. [1:02:41, 1:02:46]: that can eventually utilize that land to actually create land ownership. [1:02:46, 1:02:53]: I think by allowing this all into our community, we are denying our youth the ability to one day own land. [1:02:53, 1:02:57]: We're creating or increasing a problem that's already existing. [1:02:58, 1:03:00]: And we need to do something better. [1:03:01, 1:03:03]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. [1:03:04, 1:03:05]: Name and address, please. [1:03:06, 1:03:16]: My name is Susan Grosner. I live at 310 Valley Hill Road, Stockbridge, Georgia. I'm the largest parcel backing up to this project. [1:03:16, 1:03:22]: I have not been notified not one time, not one letter has been sent out, nothing. [1:03:22, 1:03:27]: I've had to take screenshots of other people's letters and get them printed out. [1:03:28, 1:03:29]: Um [1:03:30, 1:03:38]: The gentleman said that he has got sixteen houses going on seventeen acres, then each house will be on one acre. [1:03:38, 1:03:39]: Okay. [1:03:39, 1:03:41]: Well right here you see [1:03:41, 1:03:44]: Where there's gonna be a retention pond, a dog park. [1:03:45, 1:03:50]: A pool, a pickleball court, two pickleball courts, and a clubhouse. [1:03:52, 1:03:55]: My house is about [1:03:55, 1:03:57]: Fifty feet off the property line. [1:03:58, 1:04:01]: I spoke with surveyor today, Julian. Um [1:04:02, 1:04:04]: Put'em on three way with me. [1:04:05, 1:04:06]: And he said that um [1:04:07, 1:04:09]: The poll is gonna be eleven [1:04:10, 1:04:12]: feet off of my property line. [1:04:12, 1:04:13]: Eleven feet. [1:04:14, 1:04:15]: The pool? [1:04:15, 1:04:18]: It's gonna be eighteen feet off the property line. [1:04:19, 1:04:22]: That's gonna leave a distance of about fifty two feet. [1:04:23, 1:04:24]: From my house [1:04:24, 1:04:27]: to a retention pond that causes mosquitoes. [1:04:28, 1:04:31]: A pickleball court that causes noise and [1:04:32, 1:04:38]: And I'd I'd I'm not for this development. I'm not. I have [1:04:40, 1:04:42]: I have I have [1:04:43, 1:04:44]: I have [1:04:45, 1:04:45]: Gotten [1:04:46, 1:04:48]: legal counsel on this. [1:04:49, 1:04:52]: А воно ливнеломент. [1:04:53, 1:04:54]: I'm begging y'all. [1:04:55, 1:05:02]: Not to make me move out of a house that I have spent twenty three years in. Twenty three years. [1:05:03, 1:05:06]: You can look at this survey plat. [1:05:07, 1:05:11]: And you can tell the runoff of that land. [1:05:11, 1:05:15]: The runoff from the rainwater is gonna wash straight on to my property. [1:05:16, 1:05:19]: It goes like this. My property goes like this. [1:05:21, 1:05:26]: Whenever you built whenever they built the two hundred and forty houses back behind me. [1:05:28, 1:05:36]: I'm now six months ago just spent ten thousand dollars with AquaGuard trying to get my foundation right. [1:05:37, 1:05:39]: There's so much rock on Valley Hill Road. [1:05:41, 1:05:47]: Actually just got a boulder out that's probably about as long as this podium up here. [1:05:48, 1:05:50]: Not this one, y'all's podium. [1:05:51, 1:05:56]: Whenever we built our shop on our property, got a huge shop bigger than my house. [1:05:56, 1:05:59]: They said, Okay, thirty feet off the property line. [1:05:59, 1:06:02]: I'm looking at eleven feet. [1:06:03, 1:06:15]: My shop had to be thirty feet off the property line and they're wanting to put a retention pond, a pool, and a pickleball court directly in my backyard. Directly in my backyard. [1:06:16, 1:06:22]: I don't know if y'all are familiar with pickleball, but it causes a lot of noises. A plastic ball plastic ball. [1:06:22, 1:06:24]: With holes drilled in it. [1:06:24, 1:06:26]: And a hard paddle. [1:06:26, 1:06:35]: I have my son, his wife, and his three kids that live with us. It's the ages is four and below. [1:06:36, 1:06:41]: I can't have that next to my family. I'm not going to. [1:06:41, 1:06:45]: Whenever you vote tonight, I am begging you to [1:06:46, 1:06:54]: not to make me move out of my house. I have talked with Julian over here and I have told him that if this passes, I will sell my home. [1:06:55, 1:07:01]: I always wanted and I dreamed of y my son being able to live in the house that he was raised in. [1:07:03, 1:07:09]: I don't think that's gonna be possible. I really don't. And I know development happens. I know that. [1:07:10, 1:07:14]: The two hundred and forty houses back behind me, I know development. [1:07:14, 1:07:17]: But whenever there's that much rock on that land. [1:07:17, 1:07:28]: And I'm sitting there having to s shell out ten thousand dollars. I just got more gravel and more dirt hauled into my house. I didn't I've never received a letter. Never. [1:07:28, 1:07:35]: I wouldn't not have poured that much money into my home if I knew that there was gonna be jackhammer and blasting. [1:07:36, 1:07:40]: Eleven feet away from my house, or fifty two feet away from my house. [1:07:41, 1:07:42]: I never would have. [1:07:43, 1:07:46]: So I I'm I'm really asking y'all. [1:07:46, 1:07:48]: To not pass this through. [1:07:49, 1:07:51]: Thank you. Thank you. [1:07:56, 1:07:57]: Name and address, please. [1:08:00, 1:08:09]: My name is Marian D. Calhoun. I live at five, oh that's my Florida house, 608 Creekstone Court. [1:08:10, 1:08:11]: Jonesboro, Georgia. [1:08:12, 1:08:14]: Stockbridge. Jones Brother or Stockbridge? [1:08:15, 1:08:19]: I'm here because I was invited. [1:08:19, 1:08:23]: by the people to say this. [1:08:25, 1:08:37]: It is sad when she has to beg to stay in her house because you all keep telling us that growth happens. Growth don't have to happen. There are [1:08:38, 1:08:51]: places all around the country, United States, that people move to stay in small towns. Small towns stay small because your county, your local government keeps it small. [1:08:52, 1:08:53]: But when you're motivated by greed [1:08:54, 1:08:56]: And you're motivated by power. [1:08:56, 1:08:58]: You forget about the people. [1:08:59, 1:09:00]: And look around in this room. [1:09:01, 1:09:04]: Вел обов'язки процента з people are white. [1:09:05, 1:09:06]: Look at the board. [1:09:07, 1:09:09]: You people are not listening to them. [1:09:10, 1:09:11]: Because you're black. [1:09:12, 1:09:13]: And you own the board. [1:09:14, 1:09:16]: But when they were white. [1:09:16, 1:09:18]: And we had the same issue. [1:09:18, 1:09:20]: We had an issue with them. [1:09:20, 1:09:23]: So if you're trying to have diversity. [1:09:23, 1:09:25]: And you want to do things right. [1:09:26, 1:09:27]: You listen to these people too. [1:09:28, 1:09:29]: Бікоздей пай таксис. [1:09:30, 1:09:34]: In Stockbridge and they pay taxes in Henry County. [1:09:34, 1:09:40]: And these people have been living in the house probably longer than most of some of y'all moved here, including me. [1:09:41, 1:09:43]: And if you don't want to listen to them [1:09:43, 1:09:49]: And you overthink them and you over process because everybody wants to come in here and bill, bill, bill. [1:09:50, 1:09:51]: These people [1:09:52, 1:09:53]: They get that one time. [1:09:54, 1:09:55]: On November seventh. [1:09:56, 1:09:57]: And they're gonna think about [1:09:57, 1:09:58]: The way you treat'em. [1:09:59, 1:10:01]: Because I think about it every day. [1:10:01, 1:10:03]: I'm an activist, not just for black people. [1:10:03, 1:10:05]: But I'm an activist for people. [1:10:06, 1:10:08]: And right now people are hurting. [1:10:09, 1:10:14]: They can't afford to stay in their houses and the one that wanna stay in their houses, you all are pushing them out. [1:10:15, 1:10:16]: That's ridiculous. [1:10:16, 1:10:25]: You all need to do something. Set up some boards. Get the people on the boards. Listen to what they have to say before you give. [1:10:25, 1:10:32]: our property or our communities to all these people who wanna come in here and build. [1:10:32, 1:10:35]: Thank you. Thank you. All right. [1:10:36, 1:10:47]: All right. All right. So that's all that's all the comments uh for and against. So I'm gonna close the public hearing on that note. All right, so um Mr. Anderson, please. [1:10:47, 1:11:07]: Uh council, you have any other questions for uh Mr Anderson or anything other comments? Okay, well stand by folks, it takes an orderly manner. Ms. Gantt, we're gonna start with you, sir. Ma'am, go ahead please. Thank you. Um a question in regards to the runoff concern at three ten. Um there was one mention of a shop. I don't know what kind of shop it was. [1:11:07, 1:11:10]: Uh might be on her personal property. [1:11:10, 1:11:12]: Might be on her personal property. [1:11:12, 1:11:31]: You it's just a personal property shop? I mean you're saying the shop that she mentioned? Yes. Yeah, it's probably on her personal property. It's on her business. Okay. I didn't know if it was a business or no. Okay. Problem accessory structure. Okay. Um but the concern was the runoff based off of that. But can you explain to us how we make sure [1:11:32, 1:11:52]: Or explain how we have the checks and balances there to make sure that it doesn't incringe on someone else's property. Yes, ma'am. Even after it goes through planning and zoning and it goes through those stages, we have a stringent development review process. It goes through stormwater review, it goes through um fire review, it and it has another review. [1:11:52, 1:11:54]: through planning and zoning. [1:11:55, 1:12:15]: There are checks and balances. Uh there uh there would be no way that we would allow um, like that was previously mentioned, the swimming pool eleven feet from our property line. There's no way we will allow any plan like that to go forward. And um so during the development review process, the plans would be reviewed stringently to check for any types of [1:12:15, 1:12:22]: storm water um issues and things of that nature. And uh the detention pond will be reviewed thoroughly. [1:12:23, 1:12:30]: by our by our civil engineer and um the public works department. So there are several different departments that will review. [1:12:31, 1:12:35]: Okay. Thank you. And in regards to um [1:12:36, 1:12:56]: the setback and r uh you heard her her concern about it being eleven feet close, I believe I have I d I didn't see that on the site playing. And I I wrote it down'cause I I do care. It's not a black and white issue. Let me be very clear. I'm very offended by that. Um I don't take that um I'm very uh um [1:12:56, 1:13:05]: l let me make this very clear. It's all about quality of life and what's in the best interest of Stockbridge, as far as I'm concerned. [1:13:06, 1:13:07]: And so [1:13:07, 1:13:27]: I'm doing my due diligence and I just want to make sure because of the concerns that you made in regards to the encrunch them in cringing on your property the way it sits and having a runoff calm on, I want to make sure that doesn't happen to you. And I want to make sure for my purposes, I want all the information to hear on both sides. And we do have a board. [1:13:27, 1:13:29]: We have what we call a planning and zoning board. [1:13:30, 1:13:50]: And we appointed that board, and that board is with all constituents throughout the city of Stockbridge. Um and I always highly recommend people volunteering to be on specific boards anytime we have a splot, a slot available, and we have several boards that everyone can. [1:13:49, 1:13:53]: [4435.2, 4441.5]: stated that they recommended approval and it's sixteen homes on one acre lots. And right now, [1:14:01, 1:14:04]: That to me was a a breath of fresh air. [1:14:05, 1:14:05]: Considering [1:14:06, 1:14:08]: I found myself battling all the time. [1:14:09, 1:14:10]: People trying to put [1:14:11, 1:14:26]: five homes on one acre or four homes on an acre and trying to do m apartments or town homes. Town homes have become extremely popular. And so, you know, we have to we choose our battles on certain things. But I just want I I heard her and my concerns are [1:14:27, 1:14:28]: How far? [1:14:28, 1:14:31]: Apart, how far feet apart and is it close to her? [1:14:32, 1:14:32]: Her [1:14:32, 1:14:34]: If close to your property's one thing. [1:14:35, 1:14:35]: But [1:14:35, 1:14:55]: Your home, you know, or or uh or something, uh structure is a concern of mine as well. We have uh a chart in uh UDC uh that um that that defines the amount of feet between two different zoning districts from a SR to a RR zoning district, the buffer requirements. [1:14:55, 1:15:05]: There will be more. Yes, ma'am. Okay. All right. Um and I think [1:15:08, 1:15:28]: Um, I think that is uh i all I have to say. The only other comment I have is I am more relieved that no one's coming here trying to build more homes on that property or the properties that's being sold. Um and I'm also [1:15:28, 1:15:46]: um very pleased with the fact that amenities are being offered for such a small amount of homes. Um you're talking less than twenty homes that have to maintain and have an upkeep. Um so that's some pretty high end high end properties. And they they were beautiful. [1:15:47, 1:15:49]: Um, but I did want to make sure [1:15:49, 1:16:09]: that there wouldn't be any encroachments or anything coming on to if if there would have been council member uh we would have he would have had to apply for a variance of some type but we wouldn't approve the varence to be that close to our property line. Okay anyway. All right, thank you. Mr. Blount go ahead please. Thank you, Mayor. Um [1:16:10, 1:16:30]: That was also my concern because um like I said with uh Ms. Barber taking it being her district and me seeing um the acreage per um you know house per acre was really good. Um I [1:16:30, 1:16:41]: I would like to ask the developer what is the total difference from the distance from the pickleball court from the nearest house? [1:16:45, 1:16:52]: No no no, ma'am, you've already had your opportunity to speak. I'm sorry. It's a good developer up here. Thank you. [1:16:54, 1:16:56]: And the reason I'm asking this because [1:16:56, 1:16:59]: And and let me clarify something also. [1:17:00, 1:17:00]: Um [1:17:02, 1:17:22]: I'm I'm I want to say this nice. This council makes decision on what we feel is best for the city of Stockbridge, not a certain people or color, race, or religion. Um and that's what I've seen on this council. If it was about that, I wouldn't be on this council. [1:17:22, 1:17:29]: If it was about that I would expose it on this council. Uh and the reason I'm asking about the pickleball because my neighbor that [1:17:30, 1:17:33]: just move and someone else moved in there. [1:17:33, 1:17:53]: They got a little basketball court and sometimes they dribble two balls at the same time and it can be a little nerve wracking. So I just wanna understand the distancing that's going on here. And if there's a if there's a what type of fencing is it on the back end? [1:17:55, 1:17:55]: Ryan. [1:17:56, 1:17:57]: Right. [1:17:58, 1:18:10]: Ryan, yes sir. Also, while he's looking for that, what type of fencing gonna be on the back end where these amenities are to separate them from the properties? Uh privacy fence. [1:18:10, 1:18:30]: privacy fence. So what's the difference what's the distance?'Cause I didn't I mean I mean for s for for a housing for for a project this size to have those type of amenities um it's I mean hey that's nice if you got a good HOA set up HOA set up with it. [1:18:30, 1:18:35]: But what is the distance from that from their nearest house? [1:18:35, 1:18:37]: With the pickleball court. [1:18:42, 1:18:58]: You you g first you're gonna have the if you look on the on the monitor councilman, you can see um the pickleball court is first and then you got the detention fund behind that. So I I I really don't wanna look at the blueprint, just give me the the numbers if you don't mind, sir. [1:18:58, 1:19:18]: So you're looking at about seventy-five yards from the property line, um, which is three quarters of a football field. So it so the pickleball cost seventy gonna be seventy-five yards from the nearest house? The way it's placed, it's placed in the middle of the the of the uh the site as far as the survey, right in these two areas here. [1:19:18, 1:19:19]: Yeah. [1:19:19, 1:19:39]: Is where the um activity, it doesn't have to be pickleball, but it could be tennis courts. Um and then over here you have your retention pond. All this here is a walking trail. So all along this property line will be a privacy uh fence. There also will be landscape sound buffers. [1:19:39, 1:19:56]: um arborides, evergreens that does uh do a whole lot for um sound, especially those those trees grow up to twenty, twenty five feet tall. Okay. Uh four feet, five feet wide. So it's going to What type of trees are they? [1:19:57, 1:20:17]: The evergreen. They stay green are um Arbivades. Um green giants. Yeah. So it's gonna have a natural I have some that's getting out of control. So you're gonna have a natural landscape fence as well where you so it'll be very private. That's also cuts down on a [1:20:17, 1:20:37]: sound as well. Um this whole development is one of we hope to be a model to do more. We we're not track builders. The city is growing especially when we learn as far as the annex you also have um hospitals and medical facilities and things are a couple [1:20:37, 1:20:37]: I'm in here. [1:20:38, 1:20:49]: And um this is the opportunity to have um that next step nice homes or executive homes here. Wash work here or live here, but have to go [1:20:49, 1:21:09]: to Atlanta to get a nice contemporary home because no offense. I I wouldn't ask this last question is what about the runoff? Is the runoff running toward this so I would build the homes? Every house, um like I do in Brookhaven, all downspouts and gutters. [1:21:09, 1:21:29]: Are going to have their own drainage. We're going to return water coming off the roof back to the natural resources. So each house is also going to have what they call a drainage box, which all gutters are going to be hooked up underneath as they come down, going into a six-inch pipe and going into the ground and spread through a filter. [1:21:29, 1:21:49]: Filtration system. Natural water from the rain is natural water. But I do know rain coming off a roof can accumulate. So we made those provisions for that to happen. As far as the commercial areas, as far as the clubhouse and things, the streets, site engineers with the source systems that they're putting in is making sure that everything's coming off of there. [1:21:49, 1:21:53]: is going to the retention pond. Mind you, that will have a fountain. [1:21:54, 1:22:11]: Having a fountain in the potential pond cuts down mosquitoes because it doesn't make the water standing, it keeps the water moving. And so that's that's another thing that we're putting in to stop stuff like that. So you say it was 75 feet? 75 yards. 75 yards. [1:22:12, 1:22:32]: So with the contingencies, if we put contingencies on there that that this is the seventy five yards, the evergreen buffer, um, the water runoff that's gonna be um and you you f because where you're showing me that the pickleball court or tennis court is gonna be, I see that you have actually two [1:22:32, 1:22:37]: Buffers that are there for that. Okay. [1:22:38, 1:22:47]: So this is right in the middle of this whole plan as far as the pro uh neighboring properties on this red line. This is right here in the middle. [1:22:47, 1:23:07]: So you have an HOA established already for this property? We are uh considering and the yeah uh putting together an HOA, but an HOA that can also allow surrounding uh a certain distance of surrounding neighbors in the area to uh have a membership because this place will have a gym and all that that they [1:23:07, 1:23:17]: can also use it'll have to be a yearly membership, you have a card, get through the gate, and they can also um participate in those amenities. [1:23:18, 1:23:25]: Okay, that's the same thing that kinda goes on in the some other areas I don't I don't wanna do a commercial here. Okay. Um [1:23:27, 1:23:28]: Okay. [1:23:29, 1:23:49]: Thanks. All right, ladies and gentlemen, listen. Uh open up the public meeting for for and against. You had the opportunity to speak. Now the co now we have the builder up here and the council is asking questions. Ma'am, you can put your hand down, please. All right. Now we'll continue on with the question from the council. Mr. Alexander, please. Mayor. Yes. Uh point point of one. Uh I'm not sure. What's the point? [1:23:49, 1:24:09]: point of question. For the council approved if you have one more question that we would approve one more question. I'm okay with that. Well listen let's move on to this aspect first. Mr. Alexander go ahead please uh certainly uh sir I appreciate that let's talk about the uh a lot of these homeowners are probably concerned about their their value sounds like you're talking about a pretty high end [1:24:08, 1:24:28]: development, talk about the price points, the target price points for the development, and talk about um uh the you as you mentioned the this the the the what the stormwater system you're talking about is quite complex. Okay. So talk about the intricacies of these of this community [1:24:28, 1:24:48]: And you mentioned that you built a community like this in Brookhaven, is that correct? Well, actually I'm building, I'm finishing off one in Jonesboro, Spopy Village, which is another gated community uh right down the street from the golf course and the new water park. Um And so I have 10 more houses there and then I'm done. [1:24:48, 1:25:08]: Um this all these homes will be on slabs because we do know that Georgia is one big rock. So we're hoping to cut down. I know the development that um uh my neighbor that I talked to her this morning is really concerned about is what she experienced in the rear, uh what was going on in the past. [1:25:08, 1:25:25]: But it's a lot of basements that they put in there. So I imagine that there was some heavy blasting for that. These are going to be on a slab. Um they're not gonna be no on a basement. So that's hopefully that cuts down minimally on, you know, getting deep. Everything checks out. We'll be going no more than [1:25:26, 1:25:34]: 18 inches to twenty-four inches as far as the foundation just going up. That's a big difference in going eight, nine feet digging in the ground. [1:25:35, 1:25:55]: Um and what was your other question? My my question was the price point of the area and then uh talk about the intricacies of it sounds like a pretty intricate uh design. The price point's gonna be right around five hundred. Okay. Um uh s [1:25:54, 1:25:56]: Uh good. [1:25:57, 1:26:17]: Five hundred thousand dollars. Five hundred thousand. So m right between their the five sixty five, depending on the size. If you look at the site plan, one of the good things about this, every house is gonna be different because each lot is a different size. So y every house is gonna be uniquely different and [1:26:17, 1:26:37]: uh uh personal so the prices would fluctuate as far as now the first couple that we're going to put up is going to be um a model is also going to allow people to come in to actually who are interested to add some designs or things onto their house so uh [1:26:37, 1:26:44]: Um potential buyers will have control on how much more they pay for their house depending on the options that they want. [1:26:44, 1:26:53]: So these types home, these'll have like the the th these are modern home, is it pure that they would ha that's correct? The modern type homes. [1:26:54, 1:27:14]: they say the modern type homes yes contemporary homes yeah so will they have like the roof the upper level decks and that kind of thing on them yes it will also we're um going to um uh we have uh well i my company has a uh a partnership or contract [1:27:14, 1:27:16]: with company called Generax. [1:27:16, 1:27:21]: So we're also going to offer solar, but not the panels. [1:27:21, 1:27:23]: Акші совершенс. [1:27:24, 1:27:39]: looks like shingles, but it's actually um you know, you'd be able to use the sun for to keep, you know, electrical and things down as far as uh the energy efficiency of the house. So we're trying some new innovative things with this as well because we're wide open. [1:27:40, 1:28:00]: So i in in this now obviously certainly a five hundred thousand dollar house would actually help in new construction being in that area, raising the property values of the area. Now if you're starting out at five hundred, obviously there is a all-in deluxe. So we're starting at five hundred, you say five sixty-five, something. [1:28:00, 1:28:02]: [5283.5, 5285.2]: It depends on [1:28:05, 1:28:10]: Prop ballpark, sir. Yes, it def it six six fifty. [1:28:10, 1:28:30]: Okay, six fifty is a and that and that's the so in uh in uh in essence we this particular project, we're talking five hundred to s five hundred and something to about six fifty or so modern homes, well designed um community with uh menities as was described with uh [1:28:30, 1:28:40]: uh so few homes on basically initially I think we said one acre lots. We're talking about what, about three qu after the amenities are added, maybe about a three quarter acre lot. [1:28:40, 1:28:55]: About three, yeah, we have to because each house will have its own drainage system in septic. So we couldn't have a bunch of homes in there even if we wanted to. Okay. Um Okay. I heard you mention that there there would be access. So so it'll be a gated community. Yes, sir. [1:28:56, 1:29:02]: Okay. And then along the frontage, are you okay with adding a ten foot multi use path? [1:29:04, 1:29:24]: Okay, for for access. For access. For access. It will be for the general area of that area. You know, as far as like you have to have just like uh in Jonesboro in Spoby Village, um the residents of Spoby Village can go and use the uh workout facility that was just built in that international park. [1:29:24, 1:29:27]: And there because it's a fifty five and over in Jonesboro. [1:29:27, 1:29:47]: Their membership is five dollars a month, which they love. You know, so we just want to offer that in just the general uh uh community that's there to be able to ask. Don't get me too excited. Now you're saying that this facility will be open to the general public, and it's gonna be don't tell me now, it's not you're not trying to say it's on the level of what [1:29:47, 1:30:05]: you're they're offering up at the Clayton County facility. No, no, it ain't that big. Okay. We're just when we're saying that, we're talking about just the surroundings in just in in this little area. In the little men. It was the reason why we mentioned that is because the last meeting that we had, it was brought up as a suggestion just for [1:30:05, 1:30:06]: Goodwill. [1:30:06, 1:30:13]: You know, so a lot of people all you're you're doing all this and we can't use it. Well if you are a neighboring of that [1:30:13, 1:30:23]: you will be able to use it, you know, because we know people living and have been in their houses for over 20 years, like hurting all that. It's it's personal and change is hard. [1:30:23, 1:30:25]: And we can't [1:30:26, 1:30:46]: Can't please everybody, but we can do as much as we can to offer a a good transition. So and the one my last question is obviously you could have built this community, which sounds like a pretty high-end community anywhere. What made you choose Stockbridge in this particular location? [1:30:46, 1:30:53]: it to afford something nice. I take this whole development and put it in Granette County, I could sell these houses for a million million for two. [1:30:54, 1:31:14]: It's the same house. Location is everything. So um, but we also know putting a house like that also helped raise the value and of the community as well. Thank you. Mayor Temp Mayor Putam Barber, go ahead, please. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mayor. For um, so a couple of the questions that I had, my counsel [1:31:14, 1:31:24]: Councilmates have already asked them. Sir, you're the developer or are you the property owner? I'm not the owner, just the developer. Okay, thank you. Is the property owner here? [1:31:25, 1:31:29]: Uh one of'em is yes. Okay. Good to know. Thank you. Um [1:31:31, 1:31:39]: You mentioned about the price point. If you don't mind, can you put up the design one more time, please? Um [1:31:41, 1:31:42]: So [1:31:46, 1:31:51]: Before the council approved um the two high density [1:31:51, 1:31:55]: multifamily town homes on Davis Road. [1:31:55, 1:31:56]: And Valley Hill Road. [1:31:57, 1:32:01]: А рекоменда да те бі сил фамилий дітач хомс. [1:32:02, 1:32:03]: Instead of the high density. [1:32:04, 1:32:08]: So what you proposed is exactly [1:32:09, 1:32:10]: what I recommended. [1:32:11, 1:32:12]: And was hoping for. [1:32:13, 1:32:13]: Um [1:32:14, 1:32:15]: My issue is now [1:32:16, 1:32:21]: The council already approved the high density townhomes. Now we have this. [1:32:21, 1:32:22]: Um [1:32:22, 1:32:27]: The homeowner who lives adjacent to this property does have concerns. [1:32:27, 1:32:29]: Um legitimate concerns. [1:32:29, 1:32:32]: I have not had an opportunity to speak with her. [1:32:32, 1:32:34]: I'd like to speak with her and the property owner. [1:32:35, 1:32:36]: Just to make sure that [1:32:37, 1:32:39]: Everybody their concerns are [1:32:40, 1:32:47]: addressed. Um I am the district representative of this area. Um [1:32:48, 1:32:54]: I support this development. I do. Um and I'll explain why. [1:32:55, 1:32:57]: The property owner has a right. [1:32:57, 1:32:58]: To their property. [1:32:59, 1:33:00]: [5580.4, 5581.4]: We'd like to do. [1:33:02, 1:33:03]: Um I'd much rather [1:33:04, 1:33:06]: For the property owner to sell their property. [1:33:07, 1:33:09]: to a developer who's going to build [1:33:09, 1:33:11]: Something that's comparable. [1:33:12, 1:33:13]: To the area. [1:33:15, 1:33:18]: Other th much rather than build a um [1:33:18, 1:33:21]: multifamily town homes. [1:33:22, 1:33:31]: We don't want any more townhomes. So this single family detached development is really the better choice. [1:33:31, 1:33:32]: Um [1:33:32, 1:33:36]: That is why I'm saying I support this development. [1:33:36, 1:33:43]: But I know that there are some concerns that need to be addressed before I can a hundred percent. [1:33:43, 1:33:48]: uh vote to approve it. Mayor Ford, I'd like to ask um [1:33:49, 1:33:55]: The owner who lives adjacent to it, she does still have some questions. [1:33:55, 1:34:15]: If you would allow her to just ask her questions or make her comment, please, sir. All right. Okay, Stamp, are you done with your piece right now? We'll get to that. Well, I wanted to say that. I want uh we'll get to that. I hear you. Okay, if you're done right now. I don't know if I'm done. I want to hear what her question is. Okay. Uh Ms. Thomas. [1:34:15, 1:34:17]: Do you have do you have to say anything? Do you have anything you need to say, sir? [1:34:18, 1:34:22]: Well, I I do I I don't know who to address [1:34:23, 1:34:35]: And it may be more of a comment. I I don't know who to address this to, but I do uh sympathize and feel for the homeowner here. And it's it's it's resonated with me very heavy. [1:34:35, 1:34:43]: But um Mayor Pro Tem Barber, and I'm addressing this to you, Mayor. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Barber mentioned [1:34:43, 1:34:52]: something to the effect that she had um spoken with a number of the homeowners and I think she just reiterated that [1:34:53, 1:34:54]: Um [1:34:55, 1:35:07]: they were okay with the singer detached. And I and I think she just confirmed that as well. A and and and that resonated with me as well. And it seemed and and I'm [1:35:07, 1:35:12]: gauging the the comments from the citizens that are here, and I only heard from a couple. [1:35:13, 1:35:33]: uh and and Mrs. Calhoun who I don't think even live in the area. Um so my emotions and and my feelings are a little mixed on this, but I I'm I'm trying to figure out and I think um the reason why the owner was requested to come fall [1:35:32, 1:35:43]: to see what we can do to uh mitigate this issue right here with this one uh particular prop on because even though it may be just one. [1:35:43, 1:35:45]: But in of us [1:35:46, 1:35:47]: Could be that one. [1:35:48, 1:36:00]: And and and I and I and I feel for that. I I I understand your point. Now I and I understand that you can't satisfy everybody. I I get that. But but for us in this situation and and and for me, [1:36:00, 1:36:11]: even though I can only just do what I think is best for the city of Stockbridge and vote my conscience. So but we also here [1:36:12, 1:36:14]: To be able to if we can [1:36:14, 1:36:15]: Fix. [1:36:16, 1:36:17]: An issue. [1:36:17, 1:36:19]: I I think we have to exhaust [1:36:20, 1:36:31]: everything that we can and that's why we're here and that we can exhaust this and fix this then you know we we done a a great deed. If we can't then we just can't. [1:36:32, 1:36:52]: So um my emotions are a little mixed with that, and I'm hearing what Mayor Pro Tem Barber is saying because she has reached out to a number of the homeowners or the residents in that area, and appear that they may be okay with the singing detached. And and and if that is the case, then I would be [1:36:52, 1:37:12]: Little bit more in favor as well, but I still sympathize with this one homeowner because um that that could be mean, that could be any of us. So and it's just mostly pretty much just a comment. And I and I guess when the council allow uh her to come back, we may hear a little [1:37:12, 1:37:31]: bit more about that but maybe I just want to just just make those comments. And I I believe I have a consensus on that. So look what we'll talk about uh it's supposed to be public hearing right so we'll open the public hearing yes yes sir any matter one I'm well stand by I'm gonna get to that okay I'm open a public hearing any comments for any comments for on my very left side [1:37:31, 1:37:51]: Mayor if I may if I may one more okay. I could actually one other thing that I could do is the amenities that these shows in the rear of the property. Um one of the things I like about the owners, they're giving me a broad power to do as much as I could. [1:37:51, 1:38:11]: To try to make people happy. And I know that this issue of the pool and the clubhouse and things being so close back there. Um, we probably could look at putting that in the front of the community. So now it's near the main road, away from everybody. Probably since we're opening. [1:38:11, 1:38:22]: it up to other people might be a better idea, so they're not walking through a private community to go all the way in the back to enjoy the commun the the amenities. They could be in the front. [1:38:22, 1:38:23]: of the building. [1:38:23, 1:38:26]: And therefore they can park their cars in the front. [1:38:26, 1:38:27]: And don't even go through the gate. [1:38:28, 1:38:48]: But with that, all those activities and people coming and all that would be nowhere near her property. And probably the people who are living here is not worried about uh people walking through or driving through to get to the amenities. All right, council listen, I wanna open it back up that if if this individual wants to make a comment. [1:38:48, 1:39:08]: I got it. So I'm opening back up to everybody just in case there's any other comments for or point of order. Point of order, Mayor. What's that? We've had a public hearing that we legally supposed to have. Right. And now the c that now we're at a point where the council is doing comments. Right. I'm okay with the citizen that wants to say something, say something. [1:39:08, 1:39:28]: But we need to finish with this with us with our comments and then we can vote to allow her to speak. But it's not for us to open the public hearing back up. That's out of protocol on how we do public hearings. Because I've always said if we do something one time for one public hearing, then we open it up. [1:39:28, 1:39:48]: door up for every public hearing and I do not want us having two public hearings because we're do trying to do this every time we have a public hearing. Well I understand it but if you I mean you all can overrule me if that's the case. But the point of it is is that if you want her to speak, I'm opening it up. Well mayor I like to motion to overrule during a public hearing again and allow her to speak after we comment. [1:39:48, 1:39:56]: After the council comments. All right. You're making that a motion this time, sir? Yes. I second. All right. All in favor, please indicate? [1:39:57, 1:40:04]: Clarification. [1:40:05, 1:40:09]: And then we'll allow her to ask a question. [1:40:10, 1:40:21]: versus opening the public hearing back up because that sets a precedence for future public hearings that we can do it twice. And I do not want to set that precedence for this council. [1:40:23, 1:40:41]: Comment, Mayor? I I I do agree with that and I do understand that, but I am in favor of once the process goes through that we do allow uh the homeowner to come back and speak. So if that's a part of the motion. That's a part of the motion. Then I'm I'm okay with that. [1:40:42, 1:40:43]: Any other comments? [1:40:43, 1:40:45]: All right, make your motion, sir. [1:40:46, 1:41:02]: I've already made the motion has been second and it's already been voted on, Mayor. Okay, all in favor? Once again, make sure we got all in favor. All right. All all opposed. Okay. So four zero one four one. You opposed. I do, Mayor Ford. I do want to be able to make comments. Oh sure. Um [1:41:02, 1:41:22]: I don't know what the resident may say. She may have a question for me. Okay. So if I wanna respond to her question, I wanna be able to do that. You better respond. All right. Mayor. Mayor, I'm st we're still in the council comment phase and I asked to speak. And the motion was to allow the council listen to the motion, Mayor. [1:41:22, 1:41:30]: That we just voted on. Okay. It's to allow the counsel to finish speaking and then allow her to speak. Go ahead, finish your comment, sir. [1:41:30, 1:41:32]: One of the things I want to say is [1:41:33, 1:41:49]: while we have you up here, because I wanna make sure the concerns and I see that you're very amendable to the concerns of the citizens that live in the area, because it's gone from twenty five feet to seventy five yards. It's gone from [1:41:50, 1:41:52]: Uh it's going to a double buffer. [1:41:52, 1:42:12]: It's actually going to um set you know, with the water runoff that you guys are mitigating that situation. And it's gone from all the blasting to you're not doing basement, you're doing slabs. These are the things that that I appreciate. But only for my last comment on this is that one of the comments that was made on this council. [1:42:12, 1:42:12]: Okay. [1:42:13, 1:42:16]: It said that we don't want any more. [1:42:16, 1:42:17]: Town homes. [1:42:18, 1:42:21]: Each council member speaks for themselves. [1:42:22, 1:42:27]: In your opinion on this council, it's about your private opinion. [1:42:28, 1:42:41]: Don't speak for everyone unless you understand what everyone wants. We are not closed doors to any more townhomes. We're specifically talking about this situation and [1:42:42, 1:42:50]: And mitigating whatever needs to be done. And we're trying to just keep order. And that's what I like to operate in order, decent and in order. [1:42:51, 1:42:55]: So that's why I say after we speak, I would love to hear another your your [1:42:55, 1:42:58]: Final comment, and that's all I have to say. [1:42:58, 1:43:18]: Alright, any other comments from the rest of the council? Just one. Go ahead, sir. The the last thing that I wanna say is I wanna I wanna concur with ms what Mr. Blount just said. We certainly don't wanna send out the message that we're close to any kind of housing. You know, I I I I I I felt something today. I was on a social media post and one of the renters [1:43:18, 1:43:20]: She was really hurt. [1:43:20, 1:43:28]: By the fact that someone ev all of these posts were keep were being made attacking renters. And what she said was. [1:43:29, 1:43:30]: I'm not a bad person. [1:43:31, 1:43:39]: I'm not somebody that's coming come in and destroy your community. Why is everybody saying all the renters are bad and all the homeowners are good? [1:43:39, 1:43:59]: That's not something that we ought to do as to stereotype people and to beat down people. I never forget that I rented myself. I I when I couldn't afford, I rented. There is a segment of the population that has to rent and they shouldn't be beat down upon. And certainly it has to be appropriate for the community. [1:43:59, 1:44:09]: But I don't know uh I we are practicing diversity here, right? Yeah, exactly. That means that we welcome everybody. And as a segment of the population [1:44:09, 1:44:19]: that needs that product because it is an entry-level home for those who can't afford a detached house that costs four hundred or five hundred thousand dollars. [1:44:19, 1:44:39]: And I don't want to ever send out the message that we don't want anybody here who can't afford a single family home because we don't allow townhomes here. That's where we were 20 years ago. That's why you don't see any here. And it was a regressive message that said, We don't want you here. And I never want to send out that message ever. [1:44:39, 1:44:59]: again to anybody because we want to do what's appropriate for the community, but I never want to say we don't want you here. I know you didn't mean it that way, but that's the way that some people might have taken it. Because that young lady was really hurt by she reading these comments and she said, I thought I I didn't know I moved here to be attacked for being a renter. It was [1:44:59, 1:45:19]: Wrong. And when you think about it, I want everybody to sit back and look at themselves and say, what can we do to do to be better? And certainly, what really happens is the landlords in these single-family communities are what the real problem is. That's what the problem is. The renter is not the problem in many of these incidents. [1:45:19, 1:45:39]: It's the fact that these landlords, the corporate landlords, are greedy and they don't take care of those properties like they should be. But when a good development comes to you, where they're gonna take care of the grass, they're gonna cut, they're gonna make sure that the product is taken care of, that's what that's a best case scenario for us and for everybody. And I just don't want to close the door on. [1:45:39, 1:45:41]: Thank you. [1:45:42, 1:45:49]: Airport, I wanted to just move on and allow the homeowner. That that was coming up next. I you raised your hand. Come on, ma'am, come to the po to the podium, please. [1:45:54, 1:45:55]: Name and address. [1:45:55, 1:46:00]: Susan Grosvenor, three ten Valley Hill Road, Stockbridge, Georgia, three zero two eight one. [1:46:00, 1:46:01]: Um [1:46:02, 1:46:03]: Can I use this right here? [1:46:04, 1:46:24]: Okay. On on the property right here, he said that it is seventeen point something acres. There's sixteen houses going on it. Okay. On this that you're seeing, you can see the house up in front of me. Stand by please. Ryan, if you if she's got the same thing that's on the screen, you probably need to show us on the screen what she's referring to. [1:46:24, 1:46:27]: We can't see that from that paper. [1:46:28, 1:46:29]: Yeah, if you guys. [1:46:29, 1:46:32]: Yeah, and you have to sp and pr please speak into the mic as well, ma'am. [1:46:35, 1:46:37]: Is that is that this what she's showing right there? Okay. [1:46:38, 1:46:55]: As you can see that there is um you can see where the property is up in front of me. What you can't see on that is th that my track, the track that I live on. Um he said that it's gonna the the pool and the clubhouse and all that seventy five yards off of the property line. [1:46:55, 1:47:09]: There's no way that that can be seventy five yards off the property line because there is a swimming pool, a clubhouse, the retention pond, and um two tennis court pickleballs, you know, and a dog park. [1:47:10, 1:47:18]: I mean that that takes up I I'm not I I don't know that much about acreage, but that's probably gonna take up about three acres right there. [1:47:19, 1:47:22]: I am I am literally begging y'all this evening. [1:47:24, 1:47:25]: I am prepared. [1:47:26, 1:47:28]: To uproot my whole entire family and sell. [1:47:29, 1:47:30]: If this goes through. [1:47:31, 1:47:35]: So I am asking y'all all to just dig deep in your hearts. [1:47:36, 1:47:38]: And think about the residents of Henry County. [1:47:40, 1:47:43]: е на жест девелмент [1:47:45, 1:47:48]: I've been in my house for twenty three years. [1:47:48, 1:47:50]: I don't want to move. [1:47:50, 1:47:54]: I was born in Stockbridge. I was raised in Stockbridge. [1:47:55, 1:47:56]: I've been here all my life. [1:47:56, 1:47:58]: This is my home. [1:47:59, 1:48:00]: I don't want to move. [1:48:01, 1:48:04]: But I am prepared to if this goes through [1:48:07, 1:48:11]: I thank y'all from the bottom of my heart for letting me talk just one more time. [1:48:13, 1:48:14]: Upset. [1:48:14, 1:48:15]: And I have fed [1:48:16, 1:48:21]: А хол оди про тела фітін єрс. [1:48:22, 1:48:26]: I've got three grandkids that sit at the kitchen table. [1:48:26, 1:48:29]: And watch the deer every single day. [1:48:29, 1:48:33]: And it's something that's special to me and it's something special to them. [1:48:34, 1:48:36]: Can I build it someplace else? Yeah. [1:48:37, 1:48:39]: I can. Do I want to? [1:48:39, 1:48:40]: No. [1:48:43, 1:48:45]: My house means so much to me. [1:48:46, 1:48:49]: And whenever you bring in blasting [1:48:50, 1:48:51]: Whenever you bring in [1:48:52, 1:48:53]: Jack Hammering. [1:48:53, 1:48:55]: From all the rock? [1:48:55, 1:48:58]: It's gonna do nothing but damage my house. [1:48:59, 1:49:01]: Like I said, I've spent [1:49:01, 1:49:03]: Over ten thousand dollars. [1:49:04, 1:49:11]: in the last six months just trying to get my house stable and everything to where it was before the subdivision went in. [1:49:12, 1:49:14]: I know things break down over time. [1:49:15, 1:49:18]: But I'm asking y'all please not to put this through. [1:49:19, 1:49:26]: Thank you. Thank you. All right. Um any other questions uh for the developer or Mr. Addison Council? [1:49:26, 1:49:30]: Mayor Ford. Go ahead, please. I do. I wanted to ask um [1:49:31, 1:49:35]: Considering the other rezoning cases that were on our agenda. [1:49:35, 1:49:37]: All the other ones. [1:49:37, 1:49:41]: were deferred until November thirteenth. I wanted to ask if we can also [1:49:41, 1:49:42]: Deferred this one. [1:49:43, 1:49:44]: Until November thirteenth. [1:49:44, 1:49:47]: Just to give a little bit more time to [1:49:48, 1:49:50]: Talk with the developer. [1:49:50, 1:49:52]: In the homeowner to just give some [1:49:53, 1:49:57]: Considerations before we make a final decision. [1:49:57, 1:50:15]: After the first uh meeting that we had and it was uh talked about, it was brought up that have I talked to anybody around the property? Um and I haven't, but after that first meeting, in between this meeting, um, they have my number. [1:50:16, 1:50:19]: They have called me, they have text mi H spoke to her several times. [1:50:20, 1:50:27]: When she had a question as far as setbacks and everything, I this morning put her on the phone with the site engineers and told her ask any questions that you want. [1:50:28, 1:50:32]: Сайт інженер твол да вотюсі і за пропоз. [1:50:33, 1:50:37]: It is not a definite until we go through and complete the system. [1:50:37, 1:50:57]: So things these are just lines on paper. Things can be changed to a certain point. Um I also offered after she told me the story about her house being damaged, is to get a current um state uh inspection of her foundation. And since she lives that close by, then we'll be willing to do [1:50:57, 1:51:01]: to add a marine policy of liability. [1:51:01, 1:51:10]: And once we got the current status of her foundation, and and and if something like that did damage the foundation. [1:51:10, 1:51:14]: Тим ви хавірс и на марін полісім то фикси. [1:51:14, 1:51:34]: We're trying to be preventative. You know, if things, if it seems like I don't know if it's gonna be any blasting. I don't know, I haven't gotten that far yet. I haven't cleared the land. But if it is, I would tell everybody in the area, hey, I strongly advise to, and we can offer to take down any valuables, pictures, vises, bubble wrapple. [1:51:34, 1:51:49]: to do whatever we can because I don't know the value of this stuff, but I hate for it to be broken, especially when we could have prepared for it in the beginning. So I we have stuck um ourselves out there to be accommodating as we can. [1:51:50, 1:51:55]: Uh right now the financing we've already purchased the property. We we're not paying payments on it. [1:51:56, 1:52:11]: But we need to be able to move because we paid over a million dollars for this property. So um the more time that we prolong this is is costing us and actually will enable us to do the things that we're trying to do to help other people. [1:52:13, 1:52:22]: Okay. Any other comments for a developer or Mr. Anderson? And if not, if no other comments signed in a motion to accept the proposal for this development. [1:52:22, 1:52:24]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion, please. [1:52:25, 1:52:30]: I'd like to make a motion to table this proposal until November thirteenth meeting. [1:52:31, 1:52:32]: Is there a second motion? [1:52:32, 1:52:33]: I circum. [1:52:34, 1:52:37]: Okay. Mr. Thomas sects that motion. Any further discussion? [1:52:38, 1:52:40]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:52:42, 1:52:43]: Mayor, um [1:52:44, 1:52:49]: This council has to make a lot of um tough decisions. [1:52:50, 1:52:55]: What came before us and the concerns that came before us. [1:52:56, 1:53:10]: I see these concerns being um rectified in a lot of ways. The numbers are different and and if we hold you to what you're saying, they're totally I I I live where I live [1:53:11, 1:53:14]: The back of my house is not far from the railroad track. [1:53:14, 1:53:17]: And even a blasting from the rock quarry. [1:53:17, 1:53:22]: I'm I get cracks all around my house. The third I'm on my third [1:53:23, 1:53:30]: whole the whole door, side lamps and everything's been replaced three times because of blasting. [1:53:30, 1:53:49]: And when you tell me that you're mitigating these concerns by offering this insurance that you all would fix whatever, when you're saying that your the distance is different, when you're saying that you're willing to move the amenities toward the front, a lot of things you're doing to say you mitigate the concerns of the community. [1:53:49, 1:53:51]: And l [1:53:51, 1:53:52]: Let me be clear. [1:53:53, 1:53:55]: What you all heard tonight. [1:53:56, 1:53:59]: Is that your council representative says she's okay with this? [1:54:01, 1:54:03]: Сі, амнат, он го банк-форт. [1:54:05, 1:54:14]: She just said tonight right here that she's okay with this. This is the type of development she's been wanting in the district when the other development was approved. [1:54:15, 1:54:19]: This is what came out of her mouth. She's okay with this. [1:54:19, 1:54:24]: See the problem we have is a point of order. And this is what you heard. [1:54:24, 1:54:32]: Mayor Ford. But what's a port order? Can we stick with the item I don't need Councilman Blount speaking for me? Okay. [1:54:32, 1:54:35]: Um what I've asked is that we defer this. [1:54:36, 1:54:38]: Or table this into our next council meeting. [1:54:39, 1:54:39]: All right. [1:54:40, 1:54:42]: All right. [1:54:43, 1:54:48]: I'm not speaking for anyone up here. I'm only reiterating what was said up here. [1:54:50, 1:54:56]: What was said, if something came out of my mouth and someone say what I said, that's what I said. [1:54:56, 1:55:01]: One of the things I tell you all and I say it when projects first come to us. [1:55:01, 1:55:04]: That you either for a project or you're not. [1:55:05, 1:55:08]: And if you as a council representative say I'm for [1:55:09, 1:55:13]: Then then that's what we have to go. That's the starting point for me. [1:55:14, 1:55:20]: All right. Uh yes sir. Go ahead, please. Mr. Thomas. Uh I I want clarification. I know um [1:55:20, 1:55:25]: Mayor Pro Tem motion to defer. Yes. Um [1:55:26, 1:55:27]: in that [1:55:28, 1:55:28]: Uh [1:55:30, 1:55:33]: And I'm addressing this to you of course. Okay, go ahead. Um [1:55:35, 1:55:55]: What what is going to take place uh in the meantime? Um will the owners, developers come back with those conditions to to to rectify and um and I'm and I'm addressing you, Mayor. Yeah, well I was assuming that's what that would happen. I'm I'm assuming that I didn't make the [1:55:55, 1:56:15]: Before I could vote on this, I need to know, even though I second it, even though I need to know what is going to happen, what is the conversation, what is the dialogue that's going to happen in between, uh, in order. I I just don't want to defer this, just to defer it. [1:56:15, 1:56:35]: But if there's going to be some action taken, uh if there's going to be some conditions uh discussed and approved, then I understand that. But I just sort of need to know what is going to happen from tonight until uh the November meeting. Well it's just my assumption that the things that the [1:56:35, 1:56:55]: the that the developer m and mentioned in reference to things he wants to do, things that the changes that he's mentioned publicly and this on is on tape now, that those are things that'd be solidified as my assumption. I mean that's what I would think. But I mean those but but those are already on tape. So I mean I would imagine you can still do those make those changes. Stand by I'm still I'm talking. I'm [1:56:55, 1:57:05]: that uh those things can probably still be f uh finalized based on this conversation because it's all on tape. Okay, in that aspect. That's what my assumption is. Now could could you ask um [1:57:05, 1:57:07]: Uh the gentleman to confirm. [1:57:07, 1:57:08]: Yes, sir, without a doubt. Go ahead, sir. [1:57:09, 1:57:11]: Right now I'm here to seek the approval. [1:57:12, 1:57:20]: Um there will be changes um that I have mentioned today in working with the planning and zoning as far as especially [1:57:21, 1:57:41]: Putting everything in the front. I think that's a good idea, personally, for many reasons. And I think that's the a main point of concern that um I think for the people who will eventually move in here and for the people around to move the amenities in the front. So there are things that we still have to do. [1:57:41, 1:57:51]: do to get through once we get through this meeting to get final approval by planning and zoning. And so um but yeah, I I I stick by everything that I said here. [1:57:52, 1:58:04]: And I believe part of your conversation, uh Mr. Alexander asked you or confirmed but about having a ten foot path, I believe, up front. There's a gated community, so that would I'm assuming that that ten foot front would be out inside the gate for those residents of that particular area. [1:58:04, 1:58:05]: Say that again. [1:58:05, 1:58:13]: Outside, you're talking about outside the gate, not inside the gate. Yes, outside. Okay, all right. All right. Outside the gate it is. Okay. [1:58:13, 1:58:18]: But so that's what I that's why I assume there uh Mr uh Thomas. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead please. [1:58:19, 1:58:19]: Thank you, sir. [1:58:20, 1:58:22]: Um, I did make the motion to defer. [1:58:22, 1:58:26]: Um this presentation of the proposal into our next [1:58:26, 1:58:27]: City Council meeting. [1:58:28, 1:58:29]: And the reason why [1:58:29, 1:58:30]: I recommend it. [1:58:31, 1:58:31]: To defer it. [1:58:32, 1:58:33]: Is because there is [1:58:33, 1:58:34]: More [1:58:34, 1:58:35]: Due diligence. [1:58:36, 1:58:38]: Um the developer has mentioned he needs to do [1:58:38, 1:58:40]: And it will allow me some [1:58:40, 1:58:42]: Time to speak with the homeowner. [1:58:42, 1:58:43]: And the developer. [1:58:44, 1:58:50]: to make sure that the concerns are addressed. Um, I want us to do this together. [1:58:51, 1:59:01]: I don't want to just be making decisions and forcing things on these homeowners. You'll see most of them support the efforts. [1:59:01, 1:59:04]: As long as they know what the plans are. [1:59:04, 1:59:07]: Um and I want them to feel as though they're part. [1:59:07, 1:59:08]: Of the decision making. [1:59:09, 1:59:11]: This is in my district. [1:59:12, 1:59:15]: This homeowner, if she has any issues with this development. [1:59:15, 1:59:17]: She's gonna be contacting me. [1:59:18, 1:59:18]: After the fact [1:59:19, 1:59:20]: Once they start. [1:59:20, 1:59:21]: Building. [1:59:22, 1:59:24]: She has issues, she'll be coming to me. [1:59:25, 1:59:26]: So I'm asking. [1:59:26, 1:59:28]: For the support of my councilmates. [1:59:29, 1:59:30]: То лісенту персона [1:59:31, 1:59:33]: Who is responsible for representing? [1:59:33, 1:59:34]: These homeowners. [1:59:36, 1:59:39]: Ам респонсел по the homeowners. [1:59:39, 1:59:40]: First. [1:59:41, 1:59:48]: I support development. I support your development, but the homeowner is priority for me. [1:59:49, 1:59:55]: Thank you, sir. I'd like to let the council I'd like to let the council know that the owner of this property [1:59:56, 2:00:00]: The house that you see in the front of this property, that's where he lives as well. [2:00:00, 2:00:02]: So he lives on the property. [2:00:03, 2:00:05]: His brother lives on the other house on the property. [2:00:06, 2:00:07]: They're in your district too. [2:00:07, 2:00:11]: And so um and they're trying to make things better as well. [2:00:11, 2:00:26]: All right. You missed that. Go ahead, please. Call the question or move. But I was gonna do uh as soon as he was done, I was gonna do that. So y you are done, sir, with your comments right now? Yes, sir. Okay. So the motion's on there a motion has been moved and seconded to defer this until November thirteen. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:00:27, 2:00:28]: On pose. [2:00:30, 2:00:35]: Okay, motion fails. Mayor Ford. Motion fails. Mayor Ford. Mayor Ford. [2:00:36, 2:00:41]: Go ahead, Mr. Mayor Mayor, I'd like to make a motion for approval with the contingency [2:00:41, 2:00:48]: of approval of the last plaque or the last conditions being shown to this council. [2:00:49, 2:01:09]: And that's those conditions include having the menages up front, having the uh path put up front, uh doing the insurance with the homeowner, all of these things we just discussed, we need to see that in writing. That's why there's a contingency on this approval. It's approval with [2:01:09, 2:01:10]: Those contingencies. [2:01:11, 2:01:12]: Sir second that motion. [2:01:13, 2:01:25]: I second. Okay. For clarification, there's a ten foot multi-use path along the entire frontage of the property. There's a ten foot multi-use path along the entire frontage of the property. [2:01:26, 2:01:43]: Now the the walking trail will be still in the rear'cause that's the most wooded area. But as far as the clubhouse and the retention pond would also be in the rear. But as far as the clubhouse and the amenities and parking lots and stuff would be a little bit more. [2:01:43, 2:02:03]: The trail you'll be able to is gonna go around the whole property. Right, but the but but but for the public access, we're we're requiring that it be along the frontage of the road. Right. But not that trail. He is a trailer not inside the I'm not talking about inside the property. I'm talking about inside. I'm talking about [2:02:03, 2:02:23]: But the front. It will abide by code coded um setbacks, front and side setbacks, and it'll be placed right there in the front before and then there will be a gate for everyone else to go into. Ryan, do you understand what I'm saying? That that we were just like we required the 10-foot path across the web, then we were required there. [2:02:23, 2:02:26]: Yeah, on the front end. Yeah. Yes, yes sir. [2:02:27, 2:02:41]: All right. Motion made to accept this proposal with all the additional changes that uh recommendations and changes that you agreed to, sir. Okay. Any further comment? What those changes what those changes put in writing. That's correct, sir. I'm sorry about it with the change put in writing. [2:02:43, 2:02:46]: Wait, I didn't know. [2:02:46, 2:03:06]: Comments. Yes. Yes, sir. I I just need to be clear on the condition. Because there were you mentioned evergreen trees, you mentioned a privacy fence. Is that included in what Ryan has and I can just get from him? Or was that brought on tonight? [2:03:06, 2:03:15]: No, but I'm not gonna do that. There were number no, I'm not gonna ask him what he said. It's not conditioned on the site plan. [2:03:16, 2:03:22]: It is currently not. No, it's not currently. Yeah. [2:03:25, 2:03:28]: Yeah. [2:03:29, 2:03:34]: Yeah, ten foot wide sidewalk across the frontage. Yes. Which is required by code anyway. [2:03:36, 2:03:36]: Required. [2:03:37, 2:03:38]: So those were the two main [2:03:39, 2:03:40]: In the two buffers. [2:03:41, 2:04:00]: The two buffers two buffers was in the rear. We don't have to do that now if we bring it in. That's not a condition, it's just a it's been all day. It's required by code. I only mention that because Councilman Blount said with all of the conditions that have been mentioned tonight. [2:04:00, 2:04:08]: my concern are we still talking about the the footage, we're still talking about the good length away from the house though, right? [2:04:08, 2:04:28]: It's in the front now. He's moving the amenities from the from the back that was causing the issue. He's moving those to the front now. Then what then then what type of buffer you say we have from the first I have a twenty five foot it's required by code between S R and R R zoning. It's a twenty five foot buffer that's required by the UDC. [2:04:28, 2:04:48]: So that's standard. So if you want any other buffer, then that would be uh a condition if you want a a larger buffer. But the buffer was wider if the menu Z was in the back with the pickleball court. Is that what you're saying? Yes, but he's moving all the way to the front now. So he'll just comply with the normal code. [2:04:48, 2:04:51]: But he still have more than twenty five feet in the back in the rear. [2:04:52, 2:04:58]: But you don't think we'll have to see how he reconfigures his site. He's it's gonna require a total reconfiguration of the cyclone. [2:04:59, 2:05:03]: Yeah. Yeah. W but this is gonna contingency to approve the site plan anyway. So [2:05:04, 2:05:10]: And and my last thing is the slab rather than a basement, correct? Yes, yes. [2:05:12, 2:05:12]: Is you okay? [2:05:13, 2:05:17]: All right. So we got all those down. Yes. Okay. All in favor of motion please indicate. [2:05:18, 2:05:19]: Opposed. [2:05:21, 2:05:30]: Okay. Oh abstinent. 302. Motion pass. Thank you, gentlemen. 302. All right, we'll move on. [2:05:35, 2:05:55]: To new business actually. We're going to new business. New business is council consideration to approved an increase in annual expenditure amount for the right-of-way landscaping from$200,000 to$300,000. Staff requested$300,000 in this proposal in the FY 2023 budget, but it was reduced to$200,000 in their approval and approved FY23 budget. The annual contract. [2:05:55, 2:05:57]: [7558.0, 7566.1]: L is two hundred uh ninety-four thousand two hundred twenty dollars and fifty two cents. Funding sources from fund balance. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:06:06, 2:06:26]: Uh yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We come before you tonight to ask that you uh allow staff to increase this uh right-of-way maintenance budget to comply with the contract so that we can continue our right-of-way maintenance on a weekly schedule for roles such as Rock Warry, Campground, Hudson Bridge, Jodie. [2:06:26, 2:06:33]: Flippin', Walt Stevens, Davison Parkway, Old Atlanta Road, East Atlanta Road. [2:06:34, 2:06:42]: Okay, sir, I have a question. Yeah, go ahead please. Now I I go to the same barbershop you go to. You do [2:06:42, 2:07:02]: That and now that Manderley is in the city limits. It is. It is really unattractive that that fent that that grass is not cut to the fence. Okay. It's just cut like five feet and then that grass is like really, really tall when you pass the barber shop to um that. Right. I think you should really we should really consider. [2:07:02, 2:07:13]: consider doing that so that that whole thing is cut to the fence right there at uh where Mandalie I'm personally fine with that. Matter of fact uh Ms. Gand lives in the same community so she sees it all the time as well when she goes down the street. [2:07:16, 2:07:19]: Okay, so I that's I'm fine with that. That's fine with me. That makes sense. [2:07:20, 2:07:20]: That makes sense to me. [2:07:21, 2:07:33]: Add some beautification. Then the beautification board might a actually add some beautification there once we get it cleaned up. That uh that's my suggestion there, but it's not my district, it's Ms. Gantt's. It is a it is a district. So Miss Gantt you have a comment? [2:07:37, 2:07:39]: I don't have any comments because [2:07:40, 2:07:46]: Is this item number thirteen that we're dealing with? Yeah we're we're right, item thirteen, new business. That's right. So [2:07:47, 2:08:07]: I've discussed some of the things that I want with our public works director. I'm I'm pretty confident that some of the things are getting done. I'm I'm excited about the street lights coming down Spear Road and some of the road pavements. And I agree. I want the gr I don't want high grass up right up front, but we will talk about that and get some of those things done. [2:08:07, 2:08:08]: I do [2:08:08, 2:08:13]: Have concerns about this funding source is coming from fund balance. [2:08:13, 2:08:15]: And we're almost to the end of the year. [2:08:16, 2:08:19]: So, what is it that we need right now? [2:08:20, 2:08:21]: [7702.1, 7710.1]: And that we need to add additional hundred thousand dollars to. Well if we don't add the additional, then that weekly right away more will cease because we'll be out of money. [2:08:30, 2:08:50]: What right-of-way are you talking about? The right-of-ways on the road I just mentioned, Campground Road is mowed weekly under this, Hudson Bridge Road, Jodyco Road, Rock Quarry Road, Walt Stevens Road, Flippins Road, Old Atlanta Road, Davidson Parkway, uh East Atlanta Road are the roads that are mowed. [2:08:50, 2:08:53]: Under this. How about it? [2:08:54, 2:08:57]: North Henry? Sorry, and North Henry Boulevard, yes. [2:08:58, 2:08:59]: So do we do your spear road too? [2:09:00, 2:09:01]: Spear Road is done by staff. [2:09:02, 2:09:02]: Okay. [2:09:05, 2:09:25]: Can I ask a question? Well, let me let me do this for a second. How how is this figured into all the rest of the roads we the 91 miles of additional roads we just got in as the one January? Well, the that that's not included in this. Okay. This was in place before we added the additional roads through the annexation. All right. [2:09:24, 2:09:40]: Prior year in 2022 it was$300,000 anyway. It was$300? Yes. Okay. So I'm I'm confused. Why would we take the money out of fund balance when all of this money is in the hotel motel tax that we can use this for? Why are we doing that? [2:09:40, 2:09:46]: We got ho we we we uh we got three new hotels coming. That's okay. Instead of doing the taking the money out of fund balance. [2:09:49, 2:09:56]: Is that something you can answer, sir? Or is that Mr. Gardner does answer this question? That would that'll be either Mr. Gardner or or Mr. Wigan's. [2:10:06, 2:10:10]: Не кансул кансмалександр ви канат уз. [2:10:10, 2:10:18]: Hotel motel tax as we know it for this. You you already have the three percent hotel motel tax that goes into the general fund is commingled. Mm-hmm. [2:10:18, 2:10:38]: But you're talking now about separating out out of the general fund that three percent that typically goes in to fund your economic development and whatever else, that liberal portion of it, right? So even though you're using fund balance, anytime you have savings, some of that savings is attributable to all your revenue sources, whether it's hotel, motel, lost. [2:10:38, 2:10:53]: Fees, fines, and forfeitures. So you even though you're pulling it from that, you're still somewhat pulling it because all of your revenue is commingled in the general fund together to pay for general fund expenses. So to say you wanted to pay for motel motel. [2:10:54, 2:11:03]: You you can't just openly say that like that because and I'm telling you from a community that got in trouble with DCA for council members saying it. [2:11:04, 2:11:05]: We have to [2:11:06, 2:11:21]: way w how you say it. So you have three percent that goes to general fund. You have another one and a half percent that goes to tourist product development. That's your stadiums, your those type of things to bring heads to bed, faces to places. [2:11:21, 2:11:37]: That type of you have another one point something that goes to your DMO and advertising. So just to say hotel motel, we have to be make the most you have to be we have to be kinda cognizant of that. Um but yes. So w you know, to continue this when when we did the budget. [2:11:37, 2:11:38]: We underestimated it. [2:11:39, 2:11:43]: And and it's obviously real short and we're asking to bring that forward. [2:11:43, 2:11:46]: То то континути сервис овертайм. [2:11:47, 2:12:01]: I will tell you that we've changed management of our streets crew and our land and you'll start to see a huge difference in what's going on in terms of our right-of-way maintenance. Um, Mr. Barnes is now heading that that shop. [2:12:01, 2:12:04]: And you already start to see some things happening. [2:12:04, 2:12:10]: Um under his tenure and his leadership and you'll continue to see that happening. I wanna give him kudos to his team too far. [2:12:11, 2:12:14]: Thank you. I'm sorry for s interrupting you, Mr. Gardner. Thank you. [2:12:15, 2:12:28]: Mayor. Well, before you go, I know it's your district, right? Mr. Blount, go ahead please. Uh a qu a question and I think Mr Gardner kinda hit hit on what we were saying because you look at a two hundred thousand dollar budget. [2:12:30, 2:12:41]: And now you're saying with about two and a half months left in a year, we can we need to bring one third of that budget, add one third of what we already putting on there, another hundred thousand dollars. [2:12:41, 2:12:45]: onto that for because we have more right aways. [2:12:46, 2:12:50]: Um somehow I need to find out um how can we [2:12:53, 2:13:04]: Because I don't know the numbers uh versus the work. That's just a big jump from two hundred thousand to almost another half of the two hundred thousand dollars to be added on for two and a half months left in the year. [2:13:05, 2:13:05]: Well. [2:13:05, 2:13:15]: It's some invoices that are outstanding that needs to be paid, but we currently don't have the money to pay it because we're at the the two hundred thousand dollars that's in the purchase order. [2:13:16, 2:13:35]: Yeah, but so you're saying that this this hundred thousand dollars is not to do the extra work, but to c cover invoices as already the work has already been done? Yes. F FY twenty twenty-two the budget was three hundred thousand for right-of-way maintenance. The annual contract is two hundred and ninety-four thousand. [2:13:37, 2:13:55]: And some change, but it got reduced when the budget was approved from three hundred thousand to two hundred. And that's why we have the shortfall and that's why we're coming before council to ask the increase so that we we have money available to honor the contract. [2:13:55, 2:14:06]: And I and I remember the budget being reduced from the three hundred thousand down to the two hundred thousand. But I would ask staff and our city manager to make it clear to this council [2:14:07, 2:14:10]: That there's gonna be an amendment to the agenda. [2:14:10, 2:14:13]: not amendment to the gender, but there's gonna be a change order. [2:14:14, 2:14:15]: For this contractor [2:14:16, 2:14:23]: to suffice for the other hundred thousand dollars if we make the decision that was made by this council. Because [2:14:24, 2:14:42]: the aesthetics of it out front, the perception is that we're taking half of the budget f for a contractor and adding half of it with a month and a half left, when the citizens don't understand that the whole three hundred thousand dollars wasn't approved for it anyway, that you said, I remember [2:14:42, 2:14:48]: n you need it in order to suffice the contract that was already at hand. I mean, I I get that. [2:14:49, 2:15:07]: But now the source is not budgeted. The source is now coming from savings. So I I just wish you all would just make it clear out front. When does this let us know the decision you're making? We're gonna have to come back later and do this. And it's not on you right now, Mr. Aaron, because you didn't vote for it, this council did. [2:15:07, 2:15:19]: We have to make sure that we're putting the funding in place so that this won't happen because the perception is we're taking money out of savings to suffice a contract that should have been funded fully anyway. [2:15:21, 2:15:22]: Ms. Gantt you had a [2:15:23, 2:15:43]: No, Mayor, I just wanted to make a motion. I I I do now understand I wanted to make a motion to approve this request. Um and I uh uh my apologies. I don't want uh Councilman Blount made a a great point. Our budget previously was for three hundred thousand dollars. We've expected [2:15:43, 2:15:44]: Expanded. [2:15:44, 2:15:45]: Our territory. [2:15:46, 2:15:47]: And so [2:15:47, 2:15:48]: Um you know. [2:15:49, 2:16:09]: We want to make sure that the upkeep of our right-of-ways are definitely one of our priorities, besides our downtowns, our downtown area. Um and having said that, I'm gonna move that we approve um agenda item number thirteen from three two hundred thousand to three hundred thousand. [2:16:09, 2:16:11]: Because that's where it has always been. [2:16:12, 2:16:15]: Okay, Mr. Alzheimer's a second then. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:16:15, 2:16:25]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. Uh Mr. Aaron, thank you for um entertaining my questions earlier uh on this agenda item. [2:16:25, 2:16:35]: And what I need to be really clear on, and the way you explain this and you sort of alluded to it just then, that [2:16:35, 2:16:38]: You had proposed three hundred thousand. [2:16:40, 2:16:55]: It was reduced to 200. So I guess that lead me into a question to the city manager because I think he made the recommendation to to cut that 100,000 from what you had proposed. That's number one. [2:16:55, 2:16:56]: And and [2:16:56, 2:16:57]: Mm. [2:16:57, 2:17:01]: I wanna make sure that and and and what you told me was that [2:17:03, 2:17:04]: The funds [2:17:04, 2:17:13]: was running had had ran out or was running out. But see, my biggest concern is about the scope of work. Now my question is [2:17:14, 2:17:15]: You are not [2:17:15, 2:17:17]: Suggestion [2:17:17, 2:17:19]: Any additional scope of work. [2:17:20, 2:17:22]: You're trying to finish out. [2:17:23, 2:17:28]: the scope of work that was projected when we approved the budget. I is that correct? [2:17:29, 2:17:30]: Yes, sir. [2:17:30, 2:17:43]: So I know w I've heard some comments about add this and add this and add that, but that is not what's happening. You're just asking for the addition of fund to finish out the scope. [2:17:43, 2:17:47]: What was projected the first of the year, i is is that correct? Yes, sir. [2:17:48, 2:18:08]: But in conversation with the city manager for 2024, we did have discussions, so we've uh increased for 2024. We're proposing an increase because we know we uh uh assume responsibility for ninety-one additional miles of roadway and the and the city manager has agreed with that recommendation because there are gonna be some things that come [2:18:08, 2:18:28]: forward in 2024 that we're gonna have to address that the county wasn't addressing, but residents now that they're in the city, they're expecting the city to perform those services. So we recognize that the scope of services is is going to change and we are making recommendations and plans to remedy and address those concerns. [2:18:28, 2:18:36]: But that is for twenty twenty four, but the present item now is right. But since we have two months to go in twenty twenty three. [2:18:37, 2:18:42]: I I want to y be clear is that we're not adding [2:18:42, 2:18:44]: In his scope of work he [2:18:44, 2:18:48]: for twenty twenty three you're just trying to complete [2:18:49, 2:18:51]: The scope of work that was projected. [2:18:52, 2:18:52]: Uh [2:18:53, 2:19:01]: This year for twenty twenty three, is that correct? Yes, sir. And because what I spoke to you about was the [2:19:03, 2:19:08]: was the on North Henry Boulevard, uh, the hill [2:19:09, 2:19:10]: Um [2:19:10, 2:19:21]: And you sort of you know, your answer to that was that you were gonna go back to your staff and we were gonna you were gonna try to see if we could not um [2:19:22, 2:19:42]: Enhance that now. It seems that and I spoke this to you earlier, that it seems that from time to time the heel has been cut, but now, and I don't know if you went by that today or not, but is it I went by that today myself, but it is not being cut. So and you indicated that you were giving. [2:19:41, 2:19:44]: with your staff and and [2:19:45, 2:19:46]: The city [2:19:47, 2:19:50]: or general maintenance would actually [2:19:50, 2:19:52]: Go back and cut that. [2:19:52, 2:20:09]: Yes. Yes, sir. I had a conversation with Mr. Barnes before I came to the meeting and we did address that. We'll go back to the cutting schedule we had that Mr. Knighton had instituted. So we'll cut it back to that frequency. We'll go back to that. In in twenty twenty three. Yes, sir. [2:20:09, 2:20:29]: Okay, because I do understand where we where we need to go in twenty twenty four, but I wanna make sure uh with this agenda item tonight, we're not adding any more scope of work because if we're gonna add then we need to add that as far as the contractors to cut because if if general maintenance can [2:20:29, 2:20:30]: [8431.5, 8444.2]: then we need to add that to the to the contract list to to get it done. But what you're saying is that we're gonna go back. General maintenance is gonna go back and to make sure that it's being cut. [2:20:44, 2:20:53]: Yes, under the under the previous schedule. Like I said, this year we're not adding anything additional. We know in 2024 we will. We're just trying to complete this year. [2:20:54, 2:21:00]: So lastly, uh and and the city manager, I I'd like to really ask how [2:21:01, 2:21:02]: And what was the reasoning? [2:21:03, 2:21:18]: Um, for the cut, I mean, you know, even though you had um requested or asked for the three and it was cut back to two, I I just w what was the logic in that? And I guess only city manager can answer that. [2:21:20, 2:21:31]: I don't know. I don't I don't I you know I mean only again, only the city manager can answer that. Yes sir. This is what we we do. Not not for you, Mr. Aaron. I under I understand your position. [2:21:32, 2:21:33]: Right. Right. [2:21:35, 2:21:46]: Mr. Alfonso, I cut the budget and obviously we came up short on that and that's my fault and I take responsibility. Okay. Thanks. I mean that's I I just wanted to know that's all and that that's that's a great answer. [2:21:46, 2:21:47]: All right. [2:21:47, 2:21:54]: So you done, sir? That's it? Okay. All right. So on that note, the motion is the main segment. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:21:55, 2:21:58]: N announced decision. Thank you very much. All right. [2:22:00, 2:22:20]: Council consideration approved an increase in the annual expenditure amount for sanitation disposal costs from$500,000 to$1 million. Staff requested$700,000 as proposed in the FY 2023 budget, but is reduced to$500,000 in approval for the FY 2023 budget. The increase is needed due to increased disposal costs from adding the annex remote. [2:22:20, 2:22:39]: residents. The funding source uh is from the sanitation fund balance. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. Uh and Council, we just come before you tonight. We have the money available in the sanitation fund balance to cover the increased expenditures for solid waste disposal as a result of the annexed areas. [2:22:39, 2:22:54]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I make a motion that we approve an increase in the annual expenditure amount of sanitation disposal costs from five hundred to one million, and it's coming out of the sanitation fund balance and it's due to the annexation of new. [2:22:54, 2:22:58]: Um to annexation of properties that came in in January. [2:22:58, 2:23:07]: I second it. Mr. Blount, uh second debt, uh all in favor? Okay, go ahead. How much money is in the sanitation fund balance? [2:23:11, 2:23:12]: A bit of boatload. [2:23:17, 2:23:21]: Sanitation fund balance. Oh, sorry. Good evening, Mary Council. [2:23:22, 2:23:23]: Sanitation fund balance. [2:23:24, 2:23:25]: Um [2:23:25, 2:23:44]: One million three hundred twenty seven thousand one hundred and sixty three dollars. So we got one point three million dollars in this account and we're gonna use five hundred thousand dollars of it. So that's still gonna leave us eight hundred thousand dollars in this fund or c somewhere as close to that. That's correct. So we have thank you. [2:23:45, 2:24:05]: All right, if there's no other questions, all in favor of motion, please indicate. It's announced decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Announcements of upcoming events and meetings. Uh okay here. Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, October 10th. U Council meeting 6 30, second Thursday of each month, City Hall meeting room. [2:24:05, 2:24:25]: Uh City Hall Levi Meeting Room October 12th. Main Street Advisory Board meeting the second Friday of each month. Welcome center located at 130 MLK Senior Heritage Trail 9 a.m. October 13th. The downtown development authority meeting is third Tuesday of each month. Welcome center 130 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [2:24:24, 2:24:44]: October 17th. The Planning Commission meeting 6:30. City Hall Council Chamber is fourth Thursday of each month, October 26th. City Council Work Session meeting is the last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council, October 31st. Starbury Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting first Thursday of each month, 6 p.m. at Stockbury. [2:24:44, 2:25:04]: Bridge Police Community Room 4545 North Henry Boulevard November 2nd. City Council meeting second Monday of each month to 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers November 13th. And Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6 30 p.m. second Monday of each month in the Levi Meeting Room. And upcoming initiatives is [2:25:04, 2:25:24]: And events. We have a community town hall Friday, October 13th, ERICO's restaurant, 6 p.m. with Maripotem Barber. We talk about re uh regarding developments in District 4. Join the city of Stockbridge at the annual breast cancer awareness luncheon and fashion show Thursday, which is actually the 12th. [2:25:24, 2:25:30]: October from one A uh skimmy. So no that's eleventh. I'm sorry. Twelfth is from Friday, right? What day is it? [2:25:32, 2:25:39]: Eli yeah, eleven. Levit's and uh no, it's on the twelfth. Thursday's the twelfth. Okay, so October October uh twelfth on Thursday. [2:25:40, 2:26:00]: is the actual uh breast cancer awareness luncheon. Eleven AM to two PM at Merle Manders Conference Center. Registration is required. Contact the events team is seven seven zero three eight nine five nine eight two and I believe it's actually uh maxed out, sold out in this aspect. Um joining city uh Stockbridge for the annual Pretty and Pink Breast Cancer Awareness Love Walk. [2:26:00, 2:26:09]: Saturday, October 14th, uh from uh 10 30 a.m. to one p.m. at Clark Community Park, walking trail. [2:26:09, 2:26:18]: Join Councilman Blount at the Bingo Bash Wednesday, October eighteenth, uh from uh ten A.m. to noon at Merle Manders Conference Center located at one eleven Davis Road. [2:26:20, 2:26:21]: You'll see here. [2:26:24, 2:26:38]: Join Councilman Alexander to the Jodeco Road District 5 community cleanup Saturday, October 21st, 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. meeting location in the Hardy's parking lot, 30 56 Jodeco Road in Madonna, Georgia. [2:26:39, 2:26:59]: Join uh Mayor Ford here for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Monday, October 23rd from ten a.m. to twelve noon. Please contact Rosland Ross to schedule an appointment at 678-833-3348 or email at R. Rawls at City of Stockbridge-GA dot G-O-V. Join Councilwoman Gantt for the annual fall. [2:26:58, 2:27:07]: Festival at Clark Community Park on Saturday, October 25th from 1228. Saturday, okay, Saturday 28th. [2:27:08, 2:27:11]: Saturday, October twenty eighth. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [2:27:11, 2:27:24]: I just wanna make record that this is the second time in the past two back to back for my events that the either the day is wrong or the date is wrong. [2:27:25, 2:27:26]: Okay. [2:27:26, 2:27:35]: Okay, Saturday t October twenty eighth from twelve noon uh to four p.m. This is a free event with candy, food trucks, games, costume contests, and more. [2:27:35, 2:27:47]: Calling our veterans to join the city of Stockbridge for annual Veterans Day luncheon of February, November tenth from eleven A. M. to one PM at Merle Manders Conference Center, as we honor those who have served and continue to serve this great nation. [2:27:48, 2:28:08]: Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative Centered Around Education, highlighting the causes and effects of littering, illegal dumping. More information to follow on this issue as well. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans with a continued salute of you all year long. Please send your pictures on veterans and their name, branch, rank, and years of service to our Raw. [2:28:08, 2:28:28]: At the city of Stockbridge-GA dot Gov. Get your tickets for upcoming 2023 Stockbridge concert series by visiting StockbridgeAMP.com or in person at the ticket office located at 4650 North Henry Boulevard Thursday through Saturday, 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. And the October [2:28:27, 2:28:47]: 14th would be our comedy show, which is the first time we've had a comedy show at our amphitheater, D Bridge, and with featuring Monique, nephew Tommy, and Dominique. So I would imagine all the attendees would be crying that night because it'd be such a great time laughing and all these jokes, right? And then October we end our season. [2:28:47, 2:28:57]: October twenty first with Little Chris and Rich the Kid. And that'll be the last concert for the year. Last in this aspect. So we look forward to 2024 coming around the corner several months from now. [2:28:58, 2:29:10]: And my additional comments would be, uh folks, this is a fall season, so flu shots, please take it, be healthy. COVID nineteen booster is out there, the new boosters out there, so please take that. We want you to be well and healthy. [2:29:10, 2:29:25]: And uh want you also to uh I'm pretty sure most of you will do this anyway, uh praise the Braves and p and pull for them as they're in the playoffs right now at Philadelphia and hopefully they'll get through this whole run and become World Series champions for second year in a row. [2:29:25, 2:29:45]: So go braves, right? And matter of fact, make sure you you you root for and and support our hometown hero, Michael Harris II, our center fielder, right? Anyway, so uh let's see here. And we have a council, uh, council uh form tomorrow, candidate council form tomorrow night at Merrill Manos Conference Center, uh Tuesday, October 10th. [2:29:45, 2:30:05]: 7 p.m. So please come out, public event, and listen to the the incumbents and their opponents in reference to what they will plan to do with the city itself. And uh let's see here. And earlier today, well actually earlier today, Ms. Alexander mentioned this that he and I and Mayor Pro Tem attended the uh Grace and Grits with Sheriff Skandard and I was standing panel of education. [2:30:05, 2:30:09]: education of pe people dealing with education, uh public safety and and actually the clergy. [2:30:10, 2:30:30]: and how we can be better and how we need to work together and how we can handle things that are happening in our community at this point. And the highlight to me that day was not only all the uh panelists, but also the fact that Ambassador Andrew Young was present and gave some words of wisdom. 90 years, 91 years young. And so he's definitely a civil rights icon and a senior leader. [2:30:30, 2:30:39]: Okay, on that note, ladies and gentlemen, I um what is my understanding we do not have a executive session. Uh so if that's the case, I need to motion to agend the meeting. [2:30:39, 2:30:41]: Some move. Okay. [2:30:41, 2:30:44]: Ms. Gantt, second that all in fair, please indicate. [2:30:45, 2:30:45]: Okay. [2:30:46, 2:30:54]: Okay, and we have uh three votes to indicate that. Uh four votes, Mr uh I got Mr. Thomas as well. The meeting is now in jerk. God bless you all.

--- title: URA Meeting date: 2023-10-09 source: 2023-10-09_URA_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:14, 0:01:17]: Um [0:01:17, 0:01:25]: That's five oh four. No, sir. We're gonna go. [0:01:28, 0:01:31]: Well you leave the guys. [0:01:39, 0:01:42]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. Council we're gonna start our uh [0:01:43, 0:01:55]: A meeting of the URA, which is uh urban redevelopment uh agency. I have five oh five and this is Monday, October ninth. Meetings in order. And uh please stand for the invocation. [0:01:59, 0:02:19]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again to handle the city's business. Allow us to make good logical decisions as we continue to move the city forward. Be us always, Lord, as we continue to reach out and do the right and make the right decisions for our community. Be us always, Lord, once again, and give us the strength and understanding to serve the public honorably. In your name. [0:02:19, 0:02:31]: Amen. Pledge allegiance here. Pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for the stands. One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:02:34, 0:02:35]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:02:37, 0:02:43]: Chair Ford. Present. Vice Chair Thomas. Present. Foreign member Alexander. [0:02:44, 0:02:48]: Board member Barber. Present. Board Member Blount. [0:02:48, 0:02:49]: Okay. [0:02:49, 0:02:50]: Board member Gantt. [0:02:52, 0:02:56]: Let the record show board member Gantt is not in attendance. [0:02:56, 0:03:02]: Chair Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:03:02, 0:03:08]: Mr. Mr. Blount, is there a second? I mean yeah, Mr. Blount, is there a second? Uh Mr. Thomas Secondan, all in favor, please indicate. [0:03:09, 0:03:20]: All right, thank you very much, unanimous decision. And uh before you should have the minutes from the uh December twentieth URA uh meeting and I need the uh approval for those particular minutes, please. [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: Mr. Blount? [0:03:22, 0:03:26]: Certainly. Okay. Well I I I got Mr. Thomas here for second that. All favor, please indicate it. [0:03:26, 0:03:40]: All right, thank you very much, Council. I appreciate that. And uh my understanding we got the real estate issues just talked about, but I've been told that executive session is not needed. So I would say the presentation will be by uh s Mr. Gardner, please sir, go ahead and initiate. [0:03:41, 0:04:01]: Uh good night, uh Mr. Chairman, members of the URA uh board. Uh tonight we want you to accept uh three parcels that the city council voted to transfer over to the Urban Redevelopment Authority. And those parcels are 108 First Street, parcel number S 19. [0:04:01, 0:04:04]: Zero two zero two six zero zero zero. [0:04:05, 0:04:06]: Second parcel [0:04:06, 0:04:09]: Is one forty two Wilson Avenue. [0:04:09, 0:04:12]: Posle number S twenty. [0:04:12, 0:04:16]: That's zero five zero zero seven zero zero zero. [0:04:16, 0:04:18]: And the third parcel. [0:04:18, 0:04:20]: is four four [0:04:20, 0:04:23]: Nine eight, North Henry Boulevard. [0:04:23, 0:04:27]: Parcel number S twenty six, zero one, zero one [0:04:28, 0:04:29]: Five zero zero zero. [0:04:30, 0:04:50]: These properties were voted on at the November at the Nov November September twenty-sixth, twenty twenty three meeting to be transferred from the city city to the Urban Redevelopment Agency for Future Development Opportunities, which we will bring before you as they come to our presence. [0:04:50, 0:04:58]: someone has questions for Mr. Gardner, we need a motion to accept this track. So move. Uh go Mr. Alexander, Mr. Blount second that all in favor, please indicate. [0:04:59, 0:05:04]: Fantastic. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. On on that note, then I need a motion to end our meeting. [0:05:05, 0:05:12]: So move. Oh uh uh Mr. Uh Blount? Mayor Potem Barber. All in favor, please indicate. Fantastic. [0:05:14, 0:05:15]: Meetings adjourned. [0:05:16, 0:05:18]: And we'll see that.