Category: City Council

--- title: August 25 2020 Work Session Meeting date: 2020-08-25 source: 2020-08-25_August_25_2020_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:07]: I have 601. So call the meeting in order. This will be the council work session for August 25th. [0:00:08, 0:00:10]: And Mr. Knight, could you please give us the invocation, sir? [0:00:12, 0:00:13]: Yes, yes, mayor. [0:00:13, 0:00:15]: May we bow our heads of prayer. [0:00:16, 0:00:20]: Heavenly Father, we are so thankful to be in your presence. We [0:00:21, 0:00:23]: Count it a privilege and a blessing. [0:00:23, 0:00:24]: Got to [0:00:24, 0:00:29]: Live in a nation where we can share ideas, where we can enjoy freedoms. [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: And liberties. [0:00:31, 0:00:36]: And we are indeed thankful, God, for your blessings and your presence with us. [0:00:36, 0:00:41]: We pray your blessings upon our nation. We pray for those who are hurting. [0:00:42, 0:00:46]: Those in need of comfort, those who are in need of love. [0:00:46, 0:00:53]: We pray God that we exemplify all of the character and attributes that are embodied in your love for us. [0:00:54, 0:00:56]: That we express that love one to another. [0:00:57, 0:00:59]: And that we support one анато. [0:01:00, 0:01:01]: That we love one another. [0:01:02, 0:01:06]: And God, we pray that your blessings shall be upon us this evening. [0:01:06, 0:01:10]: Bless everyone who is joining this meeting. We pray your blessing of wisdom. [0:01:11, 0:01:14]: And strength for our elected body. [0:01:14, 0:01:20]: We pray that you bless them and their families as they carry forth the important duties of governance. [0:01:20, 0:01:23]: We pray God that you bless the city of Stockbridge. [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: And bless our nation. [0:01:25, 0:01:29]: And we are so thankful in your Son Jesus Christ, the name [0:01:29, 0:01:30]: Our saviour [0:01:31, 0:01:31]: Amen. [0:01:32, 0:01:34]: Amen. [0:01:34, 0:01:37]: Can everybody please stand for the uh Pledge of Allegiance? [0:01:40, 0:01:43]: One, two, three. I pledge allegiance. [0:01:43, 0:01:46]: Nice here, okay. [0:01:46, 0:01:49]: And to republic for which it stands. [0:01:50, 0:01:52]: One is [0:01:53, 0:01:54]: Yeah, visible. [0:01:54, 0:01:57]: But liberty and justice. [0:02:00, 0:02:02]: And click roll call, please. [0:02:02, 0:02:04]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:02:05, 0:02:07]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:02:07, 0:02:08]: Present. [0:02:08, 0:02:09]: Councilman Alexander. [0:02:13, 0:02:14]: Councilman Alexander. [0:02:16, 0:02:17]: Mm-hmm. [0:02:18, 0:02:20]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:02:20, 0:02:21]: Is it? [0:02:21, 0:02:23]: Councilman Blount. [0:02:23, 0:02:24]: Present. [0:02:24, 0:02:26]: And Councilwoman Gantt. [0:02:26, 0:02:27]: Present. [0:02:28, 0:02:34]: Mayor Fordy have a quorum. Thank you very much. Now uh council, I need a motion uh to accept the agenda. [0:02:35, 0:02:43]: Now, Mayor Pro Tem, you mentioned something about a consensus gender. I had no idea what that is and what that encompasses. Um, but uh I do need a motion to accept the agenda. [0:02:44, 0:02:48]: Uh Mayor Ford, I'd like to motion to amend the agenda. [0:02:49, 0:02:51]: To add a consent agenda. [0:02:51, 0:02:53]: For items four [0:02:55, 0:02:56]: Five [0:02:57, 0:02:57]: Eight. [0:02:59, 0:02:59]: Nine [0:03:00, 0:03:01]: And twelve. [0:03:07, 0:03:12]: Okay, four, five, eight, nine, and twelve, you say. [0:03:12, 0:03:15]: That's correct. To amend the gender for that. [0:03:15, 0:03:18]: Consent agenda. Consent agenda, right. [0:03:18, 0:03:21]: Are is there s is there a um [0:03:21, 0:03:22]: A second to that? [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: Is there a second tip? [0:03:29, 0:03:32]: Was that Councilwoman Gantt? Yes, I think it was. [0:03:33, 0:03:33]: All right. [0:03:37, 0:03:43]: All in favor of that uh that amendment to the agenda to have the consent agenda items is indicated. [0:03:45, 0:03:45]: Bye. [0:03:47, 0:03:47]: One [0:03:48, 0:03:49]: Two. [0:03:49, 0:03:51]: Uh Mayor? Yes, sir. [0:03:51, 0:03:56]: I was trying to uh in a discussion phase on that since you got a second. [0:03:56, 0:03:58]: I was trying to pull up the [0:03:58, 0:04:00]: Uh my agenda on the other [0:04:01, 0:04:10]: Okay, I'll tell you what. How about this? How about this? Number four deals with council consideration to approve the purchase of a [0:04:10, 0:04:30]: 19,500 uh GW G VW chassis with the rugby box dump truck uh for the um public works. Number five deals council consideration approved the pine grove subdivision phase two and phase three streetlight petition annual cost of four thousand eight hundred and thirty-five dollars and fifty-four cents, and that would be general fund. [0:04:30, 0:04:39]: And that's presented by Mr. Aaron as well. Number eight deals with council consideration to amend the city's social media policy. [0:04:40, 0:04:42]: And that's uh Mr. Williams would uh present that. [0:04:43, 0:05:03]: And uh number nine was a council consideration to approve the use of test stricken community center for blood drives. And um councilwoman barber is going to present that. And number twelve deals with uh council consideration to approve a card and sloop task order number twenty-three for annual wastewater monitoring and reporting. [0:05:03, 0:05:06]: Years uh twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three. [0:05:07, 0:05:11]: an amount of sixty one thousand two hundred dollars. Funding source would be the sewer budget. [0:05:11, 0:05:13]: And that also was presented by Mr. Aaron. [0:05:13, 0:05:14]: And Brad Holser. [0:05:15, 0:05:18]: Those are the items that he's put on the Cassandra general to [0:05:18, 0:05:22]: If once if once approved and and passed, all those items would be a go. [0:05:23, 0:05:27]: Well my uh uh my discussion on that on those items is [0:05:28, 0:05:31]: Is that when we talk about equipment for public works? [0:05:32, 0:05:32]: Um [0:05:33, 0:05:40]: the equipment that is needed, we this this council uh uh as a consensus from this council, not I voted against it. [0:05:41, 0:05:46]: just disapproved an a uh th twenty thirty three year piece of equipment that was needed for public works. [0:05:47, 0:05:55]: Now we got another piece of equipment for public works that's in here. So I would like that to be voted on. Also, when we talk about the lighting, the lighting portion. [0:05:55, 0:05:56]: Uh [0:05:56, 0:05:58]: Pertaining to a subdivision. [0:05:58, 0:06:02]: Our budget was three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. We went over fifty thousand dollars. [0:06:02, 0:06:20]: over that budget. We we're over four hundred thousand dollars paying for lighting. And I thought that this city would new developments and any developments come. We talked about those developments being used, uh that that the the cost of lighting would go on those developments because if the c city continue to go down this line [0:06:20, 0:06:27]: of d of developing paying for lights for developments, we're gonna be budgeting over a million dollars here pretty soon with the with with uh [0:06:28, 0:06:33]: house uh with projects that are coming in, we're gonna be budgeting over a million dollars paying for lighting when that should be. [0:06:33, 0:06:37]: on the on those new development communities. So I I'm not for that. [0:06:37, 0:06:39]: for all of this being a line item because I think that [0:06:40, 0:06:44]: What need to be had is the discussion on some of those items that we're talking about putting on the line item. [0:06:44, 0:06:53]: And and it I don't think it should go there because I think this council needs to know how much we're paying right now. We paid over$400,000 for lightings for communities. [0:06:53, 0:06:56]: And when we talk about new development, I don't think it should be on the line either. [0:06:57, 0:07:17]: Uh Mr. Mayor. Okay, one one sec one second, Mayor Protein, if you don't mind. Uh item number four is old business. We've already discussed that about the council consideration to for that uh dunk truck chassis. That was what we discussed, if I understand correctly, at the last last meeting and came back because there was a deadline in reference to the uh contract and when and the fact that the public works needed it. [0:07:17, 0:07:27]: All right. And and that's what that one comes from. That's old it's on the old business. So we discussed this once before. All the other uh things that are on the uh the consent agenda or the motion are all new business items. [0:07:28, 0:07:35]: Okay. Now I'm sorry. Uh Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. Um since since there is a need for discussion on a couple of those items. [0:07:36, 0:07:40]: I can withdraw um those issues that of concern. [0:07:40, 0:07:43]: Uh for discussion. So it seems that [0:07:43, 0:07:45]: That's uh agenda item. [0:07:46, 0:07:47]: Five. [0:07:47, 0:08:06]: Uh Councilman Blount mentioned another one. I don't know if it's uh agenda item four. So if you need to discuss uh four and five, I can take those two. I'm I'm ske I'm sorry, Mayor Protein. I'm still trying to pull mine up on this electronic. What date was it sent, Vanessa? The agenda I can maybe pull it up that way. [0:08:08, 0:08:09]: I wanna say [0:08:11, 0:08:12]: Thursday. [0:08:13, 0:08:15]: Not this Thursday, the Thursday before. [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: Right. Okay. [0:08:17, 0:08:18]: No [0:08:19, 0:08:25]: Why is looking for that? One second please. Why he's looking for that deal? Look, item number eight deals with the social media policy. [0:08:25, 0:08:33]: If if we do a consent agenda and say we approve that, we don't haven't talked about how you're going to amend it. I would think you need to talk about if you're going to amend it, how is that going to be amended? [0:08:34, 0:08:52]: uh in in this aspect. And then uh council consideration for Test Strickland uh building now the community center, Councilman Barber wants to present that, but the question I have is I thought we came up with a policy in reference to the use of the pub of the public buildings, so such as Test Strickland and Merrill Manors. So [0:08:53, 0:08:56]: in that aspect that's that's my my thoughts on this uh [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: Councilman Alexandra, go ahead, please. [0:08:58, 0:09:06]: Yeah, my internet connection has been kinda up and down. I lost the meeting a couple of times. I just want to make sure that the motion was second. [0:09:07, 0:09:08]: But Councilman Thomas, was there a second? [0:09:09, 0:09:18]: Yes, there was. Yes, by Miss Gander, Councilwoman Gander. Because I was gonna second that. And I just wanna make uh some clarifications on a couple of the points on these. [0:09:18, 0:09:24]: In terms of uh what uh Councilman Blount was concerned about, when these homes come into the subdivision. [0:09:24, 0:09:44]: They pay property taxes. So what it is is that this is part of uh an extension of the prime grown subdivision. So it's not anything special that they're getting any subdivision inside the city. Uh we pay for their lights. So uh with this particular one, if there's a hundred homes in that subdivision, they're paying property taxes. [0:09:44, 0:10:04]: property tax on a hundred homes which in which in turn pays for their street lighting. So I I just want to make sure that we understand that when these homes come in a subdivided, when they do come in that they are actually paid for by those homeowners through their property taxes. So Mr Lightning [0:10:04, 0:10:21]: Hold on one second. Those increase jump one second. Those increases uh in the property tax digest would offset uh those particular costs for any new neighborhood that we annexed or they decided to uh expand uh on into the city. [0:10:22, 0:10:24]: Mr. Mayor, clarification please. [0:10:24, 0:10:26]: Go r go right here, sir. Uh [0:10:27, 0:10:31]: If there's a need to discuss and which that seems that's what we're doing. [0:10:32, 0:10:35]: It's just easy to to remove these from the consent agenda. [0:10:36, 0:10:40]: So that it can be a discussion, even though we're discussing them now. [0:10:40, 0:10:42]: It it would be easier. [0:10:43, 0:10:59]: If we just remove those so w when they come up with the agenda, if you want to discuss them, then you can agenda discuss them. Well well, that'd be fine if you want to take you the one to write the motion. If you want to I just it just seems that there need to be some some discussion. So I I would think that would be helpful to have discussion on all these items. [0:10:59, 0:11:05]: Okay, so uh let me go back to uh councilman Blount. I know he wanted to uh discuss [0:11:06, 0:11:13]: Um five, which deal with pine grove. And then I think it was another one, uh, Councilman Blount that you wanted to discuss. [0:11:16, 0:11:23]: We we were discussing equipment, but uh but uh Councilman Landna, I just wanna before we get too far sidebared on this. [0:11:24, 0:11:27]: Uh and I uh Mr. Knighton, if you want to kind of home in on this. [0:11:27, 0:11:32]: Because my understanding that that the tax that are being paid by taxpayers [0:11:32, 0:11:36]: Is that doesn't include Georgia Powell for what we're doing. Is that correct or incorrect? [0:11:39, 0:11:45]: The street lightings that are paid for for subdivisions and throughout the city are coming out of the city's general fund. [0:11:46, 0:11:51]: Uh uh maybe Councilman Alexander was alluding to the fact that when new homes are built they pay county [0:11:51, 0:11:56]: property taxes, which increases the the overall sit city tax digest. [0:11:56, 0:11:59]: And overall county tax just digest, but the [0:12:00, 0:12:10]: the cost of street lighting is coming out of our general fund. But I'm but I'm saying with the ta with with the tax m Councilman Alexander was talking about, I wanna find what's the connection [0:12:11, 0:12:13]: to what we're paying for lighting. [0:12:14, 0:12:34]: Well let me let me mention this. This is all the more reason why I mean I wish we would discuss what that we want to put amendments on, you know, change the amendment and consensus agenda sometime before we got to this point. Uh but we are discussing it now. And and so really, I mean, if if you're gonna take anything off the consent agenda, please do so so we can move on with the meeting here. [0:12:34, 0:12:35]: I mean really [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: So [0:12:36, 0:12:39]: Um in this aspect. Uh so [0:12:40, 0:12:42]: If it is the pledge of the council [0:12:43, 0:12:47]: We will remove uh agenda item five. [0:12:48, 0:12:50]: Which is the Pine Grove issue. [0:12:50, 0:12:58]: Um and I wanted to get the other one from uh Mayor uh from uh Councilman Blount. It was You mentioned you mentioned number four. [0:12:59, 0:13:00]: You mentioned number six before. [0:13:01, 0:13:03]: Yes, yep, yes. Go ahead, who who's that? [0:13:03, 0:13:17]: That's Councilwoman Gantt. Go ahead, Matt Gantt. I'm sorry. I'll get to you. I'm after looking at the agenda, I didn't realize the social media policy is one of them for consent. I'd like that I would like that removed as well. [0:13:18, 0:13:19]: D [0:13:19, 0:13:26]: Mr Mayor, what I'll do I I'll just withdraw the uh the total uh motion for the uh consent agenda. [0:13:26, 0:13:32]: Okay, I appreciate that. I need on that note, I need a motion to uh uh to adopt the agenda as written, please. [0:13:33, 0:13:33]: So move. [0:13:34, 0:13:35]: There's second. [0:13:35, 0:13:36]: A second. [0:13:36, 0:13:38]: All right, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:13:40, 0:13:47]: Okay, all right, thank you very much. On that note, we'll move on. Review the minutes for the following meetings. We had the July thirteenth council meeting. [0:13:47, 0:13:50]: And the July twentieth uh council work session. [0:13:50, 0:13:55]: You hopefully rev you review those, we'll see those back at our next meeting and we'll approve them. [0:13:56, 0:13:59]: Uh at that next meeting. All right. So you have them to review. [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: On that note, uh [0:14:02, 0:14:06]: Clerk uh holiday, Miss Holiday, uh we have any public comments? [0:14:07, 0:14:14]: I I need to confirm with IT whether or not we have the gentleman that did want to speak in public comments. [0:14:16, 0:14:18]: On the line as a participant. [0:14:20, 0:14:25]: Think I see him show up here. I think he showed up. Mr. Jackson, I believe. Mr. Jackson, yes. [0:14:32, 0:14:35]: Mr. Jackson, oh there I see his name. Mr. Jackson. [0:14:35, 0:14:36]: Can you hear me? [0:14:37, 0:14:41]: Yeah, I got you, sir. Go ahead. You have three minutes, sir, if you don't mind. Go ahead with your public comment, please. [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: Good evening, Mayor Council, how are you? [0:14:43, 0:14:44]: Good evening. [0:14:46, 0:14:49]: Um I just I won't I won't take all three minutes. I just wanted to uh [0:14:50, 0:14:54]: I'm getting feedback. Can you guys hear me clearly? We we hear you, sir. Great. Yes. [0:14:55, 0:15:03]: Okay, uh I won't take up too much of your time. I just wanted to share a few things with you about Pine Growth Subdivision. Of course, you guys know last summer. [0:15:04, 0:15:09]: Uh we came to you guys for your support regarding the community and the HOA, so on and so forth. [0:15:09, 0:15:15]: And what we've done from that point is we've had legal resources and we now have control of the community. [0:15:16, 0:15:20]: But what we're trying to do is we're trying to put our community back together. [0:15:20, 0:15:22]: In doing so, we were uh [0:15:23, 0:15:26]: We submitted petitions regarding the street lights. [0:15:26, 0:15:31]: Uh the phase three that you guys are referring to was started back in two thousand fifteen. [0:15:32, 0:15:37]: And it never went on to the agenda. So we are asking Mayor and Council to consider [0:15:37, 0:15:40]: uh putting the the the street lights [0:15:40, 0:15:43]: on the monthly bill so that we won't have to [0:15:44, 0:15:45]: Yeah, the [0:15:45, 0:15:47]: the responsibility of doing so. [0:15:47, 0:15:51]: And I think that it's fair considering any other communities that are being built. [0:15:51, 0:15:55]: Right. Uh the city will foot the bill for the street lights. [0:15:55, 0:15:57]: Also one other thing [0:15:58, 0:16:05]: Uh the builders are kind of on their way out now. We have about seven lots that are left and they have destroyed our community, not maintaining the lots. [0:16:06, 0:16:11]: They tore the street and we were asking if we could get some support from you guys regarding [0:16:11, 0:16:14]: the silver star I have C seed [0:16:15, 0:16:22]: uh Mr. Knighton on emails and pictures showing him that there were wild animals such as snakes [0:16:22, 0:16:26]: in those common areas and we would like to know what you guys could do. [0:16:27, 0:16:29]: To support us regarding that as well. [0:16:30, 0:16:31]: Thank you. That's all I have. [0:16:31, 0:16:34]: Thank you, sir. We're checking and I appreciate your comments, sir. [0:16:34, 0:16:54]: Uh Ms. Holliday, any other public comments at all? There were no other comments. Okay, on that note, we'll move on to our discussion. Our discussion deals with uh council consideration to approve a resolution for the city, municipal, and court polling locations. And it has here presented by Ms. Holliday, Mr. Williams, uh Amika Pitts. [0:16:54, 0:16:55]: Um [0:16:55, 0:17:02]: Patrick Jossetter, if he's online, and Donna McBride, I'll part of the elections board as well. Election Board's chair, please. [0:17:03, 0:17:07]: Yes, Mayor and Council, we also have on the line on this item [0:17:07, 0:17:10]: Um poll coordinator Brooke Schreiner. [0:17:10, 0:17:11]: Uh with the county. [0:17:11, 0:17:12]: Glad to see you, Brooke. [0:17:13, 0:17:17]: Okay. So as a matter of reference, I wanna give some background to this item. [0:17:18, 0:17:22]: City or municipal elections take place every two years, an odd number of years. [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: The exception would be a special election. [0:17:26, 0:17:29]: County and state elections are held an even number of years. [0:17:30, 0:17:38]: Again, the exception would be a special election or the SPLOS referendum, which takes place every five years and is scheduled to take place again. [0:17:38, 0:17:40]: in twenty twenty three. [0:17:40, 0:17:42]: In November twenty nineteen. [0:17:43, 0:17:48]: During the Stockbridge municipal election cycle, a countywide Splos Five referendum [0:17:49, 0:17:52]: was included on the ballot which created a situation [0:17:52, 0:17:56]: where both the city election and county wide election were held at the same time. [0:17:57, 0:18:06]: Voters who participated in early voting were able to cast their ballots for the city election and county splot five referendum in the same location. [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: However, on election day [0:18:09, 0:18:15]: Voters cast ballots for the city municipal election at the designated polling office assigned for the city. [0:18:15, 0:18:20]: And had to travel to the county designated polling offices to cast ballots for the county. [0:18:21, 0:18:22]: Plus five referendum. [0:18:23, 0:18:28]: Henry County Elections Board approved a resolution earlier this year, urging the Stockbridge City Council [0:18:29, 0:18:33]: to adopt a resolution aligning city voting procin precincts with [0:18:34, 0:18:37]: those for state and county elections and to work with the reapportionment. [0:18:38, 0:18:41]: And both the city and county attorneys would complete that required work. [0:18:43, 0:18:52]: The Georgia Elections Code twenty one dash two dash two sixty B states that the governing body of each municipality shall determine and establish the number of of boundaries. [0:18:53, 0:18:55]: of municipal voting precincts. [0:18:56, 0:19:03]: His shall establish rather the boundaries of municipal voting precincts in accordance with the provisions of this article. [0:19:03, 0:19:05]: And so far as practicable. [0:19:05, 0:19:11]: the precincts shall be the same as those for the state and county elections. [0:19:12, 0:19:15]: Municipal polling locations are required. [0:19:15, 0:19:18]: to be within the city limits of that municipality. [0:19:19, 0:19:28]: In the City of Stockbridge, there are three city county election polling offices located within the City of Stockbridge boundaries. [0:19:29, 0:19:31]: Those are the conference center. [0:19:31, 0:19:34]: Stockbridge First United Methodist Church. [0:19:34, 0:19:37]: And Red Oak United Methodist Church. [0:19:38, 0:19:43]: Should the council elect to move forward with allocating additional polling offices, please keep in mind. [0:19:43, 0:19:48]: Voters will be assigned to those polling precincts by the Justice Department. [0:19:48, 0:19:51]: Voters would not be able to vote at either [0:19:52, 0:19:57]: or locations on election day, it would have to be one or the other. [0:19:59, 0:20:07]: Southbridge First United Methodist Church is an eligible location. However, it is located within very close proximity to the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [0:20:08, 0:20:12]: Red Oak United Methodist Church is the other eligible location. [0:20:13, 0:20:17]: Should the Red Oak United Methodist Church polling location be approved, the city would [0:20:17, 0:20:19]: Then be split in half. [0:20:20, 0:20:23]: Half of his voters being assigned to the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [0:20:24, 0:20:28]: And the other have been assigned to Red Oak United Methodist Church. [0:20:29, 0:20:30]: And this [0:20:30, 0:20:33]: is for city elections. [0:20:34, 0:20:41]: The current cost of a city election that we currently hold at the Merrill Manager Conference Center, which includes early voting. [0:20:42, 0:20:46]: And election day voting is approximately twenty thousand dollars. [0:20:46, 0:20:48]: Adding a precinct. [0:20:48, 0:20:51]: For election day voting only. [0:20:51, 0:20:54]: Would cost approximately fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars. [0:20:55, 0:20:57]: However, if you would like to add an additional precinct. [0:20:58, 0:21:01]: for early voting and election day voting. [0:21:01, 0:21:05]: Again, that cost is approximately twenty thousand dollars. [0:21:05, 0:21:09]: And I'll yield for anyone else that's on the panel on this item. [0:21:10, 0:21:10]: to [0:21:11, 0:21:13]: add anything at this point. [0:21:15, 0:21:18]: Ms. McBride, do you have anything, ma'am, that you need to add to this, please? [0:21:21, 0:21:25]: Yes, I I certainly um agree with what uh [0:21:25, 0:21:29]: Miss Holliday has said, and we're here to just see how we can. [0:21:29, 0:21:33]: Help the citizens of Stockbridge so that they would not have to [0:21:33, 0:21:36]: go to two sites to vote and it can be done. [0:21:37, 0:21:39]: At one side, if possible, so [0:21:39, 0:21:43]: I do have staff here to help us talk about it. [0:21:43, 0:21:47]: To see exactly if there's anything that we can help the city of Stockholm. [0:21:47, 0:21:51]: With so that we will be able to ensure that the citizens [0:21:51, 0:21:55]: can um vote at one location. I'm I'm so sorry. I see [0:21:55, 0:22:15]: Is that Mr. Alexander's hand up? I'll I'll take care of that in just a second, ma'am, if you don't mind. I'll take care of it. Okay, thank you. Okay. Now make sure I understand on this. Right now we have three sites within the city limits for city municipal elections. And um and both uh Red Oak and Merrill Manor so separate pretty pretty decent size uh several miles. [0:22:15, 0:22:22]: Five four or five miles apart. All right. And so they have the red they're used for municipal elections and they're used for county elections both. Is that correct? [0:22:26, 0:22:30]: No. Which sites? Red Oak and Merle Manors. [0:22:31, 0:22:36]: Red O Romanders is the only location right now for the city election on election day. [0:22:37, 0:22:38]: Okay. On a lecture joke. [0:22:39, 0:22:44]: and Stockbridge First United Methodist Church are county polling sites. [0:22:45, 0:22:46]: Currently. [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: Okay. [0:22:47, 0:22:50]: County o county police sites only currently. [0:22:53, 0:23:00]: Correct. And then and with state and other elections that we might have during that same time, yes. But the current only city [0:23:00, 0:23:05]: Poland location currently is the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [0:23:05, 0:23:16]: Okay. Thank you. Miss Alexander, go ahead please. Uh yeah, I think um all of us who went through the last election cycle understand we need multiple sites. [0:23:16, 0:23:22]: for us to vote at because at seven o'clock we had a hundred and fifty people in line. [0:23:23, 0:23:35]: on election night waiting and several of those people walked out of line. It's extremely important that we have multiple locations. Uh it'd be great if those uh individuals along Walt Stevens Road. [0:23:36, 0:23:40]: could simply go over to Red Out uh United Methodist Church. [0:23:40, 0:24:00]: uh and uh and vote uh in the city election uh as well. Uh I I do understand that the First United Methodist Church uh is close to Merrill Manders and they're very close, but the idea is to have multiple sites and this is only for one day. I would not recommend early voting uh [0:24:00, 0:24:05]: be at these additional locations, just election day polling'cause early voting [0:24:05, 0:24:25]: Uh we'll have that at Merrill Manders and uh that will be good enough because most people the line is not too long. But on election day I just recall what we saw and the fiasco that we saw on election night. Literally the the the line was snaked out there. Mr. Knight and Miss Moore were out there trying to [0:24:25, 0:24:45]: To uh uh coordinate what was going on long past seven o'clock because everybody had to come to the same polling site. So it is urgent that we have multiple polling sites uh so that these uh that everybody can get to vote. And again, you know, we have a lot of people to come vote out of Monarch Village and along [0:24:45, 0:24:54]: and Walt Stevens, if they could go to their polling location at Red Oak, that would be ideal, relieving the burden off of the primary uh facility. [0:24:56, 0:24:58]: Mayor. Yeah, go right in, Vanessa. [0:24:58, 0:25:07]: If I may respond to that, what you need to keep in mind, Councilman Alexander, is for each of the polling sites, and correct me, um Amika or Brooke. [0:25:07, 0:25:10]: But for each of those polling sites. [0:25:10, 0:25:13]: The Justice Department will assign. [0:25:14, 0:25:19]: citizens to those particular polling sites. So we would need [0:25:19, 0:25:21]: To do the messaging. [0:25:21, 0:25:27]: to get it out that they will no longer be voting at Merrill Manders, which is what they're accustomed to. [0:25:28, 0:25:28]: Then [0:25:29, 0:25:35]: It will be split. And if we add the church, if we add Stockbridge First United Methodist, that's three. [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: And it would be split three ways. [0:25:39, 0:25:59]: instead of two. So just keep that in mind when when you um uh make your decision. Well I perfectly understand and I and I thank you for that excellent explanation. It was thorough and it was detailed, but voters are used to voting at a particular precinct on election day. So this is this is just we're catching up with what the times are. [0:25:59, 0:26:19]: So if the voter gets on their voter card, which they will get a voter card that tells them they need to go to Red Oak United Methodist Church to vote on election day for city elections going forward, they will adjust to that. And trust me, they will be more happy than that than waiting out there for 150 people to vote. [0:26:19, 0:26:39]: I know personally I'm not running in the upcoming election, but I lost several votes for people who got tired of waiting and they didn't want to wait anymore. And that is voter suppression at its best. So this is what this is about is uh a voter suppression measure to la alleviate the pressure off of one voting precinct in a city with uh with thirty [0:26:39, 0:26:40]: thousand residents. [0:26:41, 0:26:52]: Uh Brooke, go right here. I see your hand up, ma'am. Yes, okay. As we are the ones who just conduct y'all's election, it's mainly up to what y'all want to do, but just keep mindful. [0:26:52, 0:27:03]: your flippin' voters that are in the city limits, your county election people that go to Hickory Flat, which is Tabernacle Appraise, they still will have to go to two different locations. [0:27:04, 0:27:12]: Um your Pates Creek voters that vote there on election day that are in the city limits. Then they will also have to still go to two locations on election day. [0:27:13, 0:27:16]: Well why would they have to go to two locations? [0:27:17, 0:27:21]: Because those polling locations are not within your city limits. They are outside. [0:27:23, 0:27:23]: Yeah. [0:27:24, 0:27:26]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [0:27:26, 0:27:30]: Okay, but the my first comment is not really a question. [0:27:30, 0:27:31]: Um [0:27:31, 0:27:33]: And then I have a question following up. [0:27:34, 0:27:41]: I am concerned at how is it that we can maybe someone can a answer this question. [0:27:41, 0:27:42]: Um [0:27:42, 0:27:43]: How is it? [0:27:44, 0:27:46]: that during the [0:27:46, 0:27:51]: early election we can go to any polling precinct that's open. [0:27:51, 0:27:53]: in boat, whether you lived in [0:27:54, 0:27:57]: Stockbridge, Hampton, McDonough, you name it. [0:27:57, 0:28:09]: But then the complication sets in when it's on boting day and we literally have to go to our voting precinct and may have to go to two different voting locations. [0:28:09, 0:28:11]: Why can't we fix that? [0:28:12, 0:28:19]: What there is is there some illegal is it something illegal? Because to me that is voter suppression. [0:28:20, 0:28:27]: And I can literally having to and I'm I'm sorry. W the fact that we are literally having [0:28:27, 0:28:32]: to we know that it can be done because it's done as early voting. [0:28:32, 0:28:38]: So why is it that on voting day that everyone has this confusion? [0:28:39, 0:28:42]: I I know that my primaries was that red oak. [0:28:43, 0:29:03]: If we could have our primaries at Red Oak and have the county election and the city municipal election there, then that's what I want. So, what do we need to do as a county, as a board of elections committee, board? Um, our attorneys, what do we need to do to make sure? [0:29:03, 0:29:03]: Yeah. [0:29:03, 0:29:05]: That we only have to go one place. [0:29:06, 0:29:07]: Period. [0:29:07, 0:29:08]: To both. [0:29:09, 0:29:16]: Brooklyn. I I think let me just address the one with the city and the county. [0:29:16, 0:29:19]: The problem we have with the city and the county is that [0:29:20, 0:29:25]: For the city election it the polling place have to be within the city limits. [0:29:26, 0:29:28]: So that's a problem that we have because we have [0:29:29, 0:29:31]: Some citizens who are [0:29:32, 0:29:36]: in the city limits, but they're voting at a precinct that's within the county limits. [0:29:37, 0:29:38]: So we're [0:29:38, 0:29:42]: That's why they have to go to two different locations. So that's the problem that we're having. [0:29:43, 0:29:44]: Where we have sons. [0:29:44, 0:29:49]: residents that actually are classified as li living within the city limits, but they're [0:29:49, 0:29:53]: Their precinct to vote is it within the county, it's outside of the city limits. [0:29:54, 0:29:58]: So that's why we can't have them because the way the legislation written down [0:29:59, 0:30:01]: But city elections, it must be within the city limits. [0:30:02, 0:30:03]: Yeah. [0:30:03, 0:30:06]: Stand by please. Brooke, did you have something you need to add to that? [0:30:06, 0:30:11]: Yes, this would also um you would actually have to talk to legislation to get this rule changed. [0:30:11, 0:30:19]: even local like with county elections and federal elections, we would love for legislation to change it to vote centers. [0:30:19, 0:30:21]: Um that was how [0:30:21, 0:30:30]: happen is that legislation would have to take away election day based polling location and do vote centers. Then you wouldn't have the long lines. [0:30:30, 0:30:32]: Anybody from that county could go if you're [0:30:33, 0:30:43]: live in Stockbridge but work in Locust Grove, you could go to Locust Grove still after work and make the polls on time. So it's just working with your legis with the legislators and getting that law changed. [0:30:43, 0:30:45]: Well then that's what we need to do. [0:30:45, 0:30:47]: Because and and in the meantime [0:30:48, 0:30:49]: What can we do? [0:30:50, 0:30:54]: For our citizens to make sure that they only have to go to one polling location. [0:30:55, 0:30:58]: How is it possible? What can we do? [0:30:58, 0:31:08]: to make that happen. For Stockbridge, but I I'm concerned about the state of Georgia. I'm concerned about Henry County. And so we're gonna have to work with our our state legislators on that. [0:31:09, 0:31:19]: I can answer their question. Hold on. Uh uh Brooke or Donna, uh m Miss McBride, can you They they're giving incorrect information. That's not true. Oh what standby please. [0:31:19, 0:31:22]: um miss brook or or Donna can you answer that please [0:31:23, 0:31:27]: Да і что легів існу. Ви кана чаї. [0:31:28, 0:31:30]: The legislation that says that [0:31:30, 0:31:35]: If you live in the city and there's a city election that you must vote within the city limits. [0:31:35, 0:31:42]: That's something that we can't change. That isn't a legislative issue that must go for legislation to get changed. [0:31:42, 0:31:43]: And like I said [0:31:44, 0:31:48]: prior the major problem that we're having is that because we do have citizens [0:31:48, 0:31:52]: Who live in the city, but their voting precinct location. [0:31:52, 0:31:57]: Is it within the county limits? So that's why they have to go to two locations every five years. [0:31:57, 0:32:02]: to ensure that they vote in their for their city election as well as the county election. [0:32:02, 0:32:07]: So there there is um truth to that that we have to have that as a legislative change. [0:32:07, 0:32:10]: And if what we want is voting centers. [0:32:10, 0:32:13]: That's a legislative change. We can't change it as a county. [0:32:13, 0:32:16]: It must go through legislation to say that. [0:32:16, 0:32:18]: We can have that as a state. [0:32:19, 0:32:23]: But we we have voting centers where we can go anywhere within the county. [0:32:23, 0:32:25]: And cast a vote because [0:32:25, 0:32:30]: It doesn't matter, but that's way we have it set up because the machines have to be set up a certain way. [0:32:30, 0:32:32]: To cast those votes to capture [0:32:32, 0:32:36]: The ballots still have to be set where you are um [0:32:37, 0:32:38]: Well, you um [0:32:39, 0:32:42]: Wor the ballots have to be set up so that when a citizen comes in [0:32:43, 0:32:45]: could their provide their ev information. [0:32:45, 0:32:52]: they get the right ballot. So it is a legislative change that has to take place because there's a lot of work that's entailed with that. [0:32:53, 0:32:58]: And Amika, I don't know if you want to expound on that or not, but uh it is legislative. [0:33:03, 0:33:04]: Ms. Pitts, do you have anything to add, ma'am? [0:33:07, 0:33:16]: Yeah, we're sorry. I was trying to unmute my um mic. Good evening, everyone. I'm super here this evening. [0:33:16, 0:33:20]: Um yeah, the answer to that is very detrimental with [0:33:21, 0:33:24]: One of the reasons why this has become a problem. [0:33:24, 0:33:25]: Um is because [0:33:26, 0:33:27]: Of having to be able [0:33:28, 0:33:34]: having the voters as a are within city to have to have polling locations and vote in within that city. [0:33:35, 0:33:36]: When the um [0:33:37, 0:33:38]: I think it's councilwoman again. [0:33:39, 0:33:42]: She was speaking on wanting to have it where [0:33:42, 0:33:47]: It should not be where when it becomes to a municipal election. [0:33:47, 0:33:51]: That they can't go anywhere like they can when it comes with county. [0:33:51, 0:33:52]: There's a [0:33:53, 0:33:55]: With county, that's the difference. [0:33:55, 0:33:58]: It's just like we can't go outside the county and vote. [0:33:59, 0:34:04]: you only can vote within county. It's the same thing when it comes to the municipal elections with the cities. [0:34:04, 0:34:15]: You can't go outside of your city. You have to make sure you stay within. And so me and Brooke once talking with Miss Vanessa, we did try to find different locations that were [0:34:15, 0:34:20]: currently polling locations that we use as a county that were within city that we do. [0:34:21, 0:34:23]: possibly combine and come together to [0:34:24, 0:34:27]: hopefully come together with this resolution that we're trying to do. [0:34:27, 0:34:29]: Um and again it as [0:34:30, 0:34:40]: the um Dr. McBride as well as Brooke was explaining it is a leg it is a legislative thing and that's something that w you know you have to go with N winter and make that change. You can't just do [0:34:42, 0:34:42]: All right. [0:34:42, 0:34:43]: Miss Alexander. [0:34:44, 0:34:45]: Yeah, go ahead, please. [0:34:45, 0:34:53]: I just uh I I'm not sure if the ladies were here when the state elections director did come to him and tell me. [0:34:54, 0:34:56]: Who someone needs the mute? [0:34:58, 0:35:05]: Okay, I'm not sure if the ladies were here when the state elections director did come to Henry County, but he said that that was possible. [0:35:06, 0:35:26]: He he stated right there at the meeting when we were doing the new voting machine that we needed to go that uh he I I I thought he clearly said that it was possible. He said uh'cause we we asked this question of him, why do people have can't why can't people go to Locust Grove and vote in all the elections and why can't they go to [0:35:26, 0:35:30]: fair view and vote in all the elections. Well possibly that was uh [0:35:30, 0:35:45]: or just all county elections to swivel them around. But I was I was under the impression that he was uh referring to um all of the elections because he said if you can do it on early voting day, we can't we certainly can do that. [0:35:47, 0:35:47]: Oh. [0:35:48, 0:35:56]: We're not saying that it's not possible. We're saying that it would have to be a legislative change. It is possible if the legislation agreed to it. [0:35:56, 0:36:00]: So that that's what um the Secretary of State Rassenberger pro [0:36:00, 0:36:02]: was aluding to [0:36:02, 0:36:06]: That it is possible, but you have to make sure legislation agree to that. [0:36:06, 0:36:10]: So it is possible, but there are some processes that must go take [0:36:10, 0:36:13]: And consideration must be in place first before that happens. [0:36:14, 0:36:16]: Mr. Bright, I'm am I assuming? [0:36:17, 0:36:34]: Stop one second. Ms. Mri, I am I assuming that when you said let's later change that we have to start with a Henry County delegation, work with them and then and then go through. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. Thank you. Ms. Start with our representatives and our senators and work with them to get it changed. Yes. Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [0:36:35, 0:36:37]: Is it possible for the county? [0:36:38, 0:36:39]: To have [0:36:40, 0:36:46]: their voting precincts within our city limits so that our citizens will be able to go to one location. [0:36:50, 0:36:51]: If I may respond to that. [0:36:51, 0:36:52]: Go go ahead, please. [0:36:53, 0:36:58]: We did look at some um different locations that we [0:36:59, 0:37:05]: would like to consider for um like we we thought about um Eagles Landing Christian Academy being a location [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: Or somewhere in that area. [0:37:09, 0:37:12]: to add it, but it currently it is it's not that's not a county. [0:37:13, 0:37:22]: polling location. So even if the city decided they wanted to use a facility in that area, unless the county did so also, [0:37:23, 0:37:27]: A voter would have to go to two locations if there was a county item on the ballot and [0:37:28, 0:37:30]: From what I understand in twenty twenty one. [0:37:31, 0:37:34]: There will be a county item on the ballot. [0:37:35, 0:37:35]: So [0:37:35, 0:37:38]: We're trying to find locations. [0:37:40, 0:37:42]: Араунд Сити. [0:37:43, 0:37:44]: Within the city limits. [0:37:45, 0:37:49]: But the county would have to bring those facilities on board as well. [0:37:52, 0:37:55]: In order to make it one stop voting. [0:37:58, 0:38:00]: Okay. Uh I see Mr. Blount. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [0:38:03, 0:38:06]: Yeah, can you guys hear me? Go ahead, sir. [0:38:07, 0:38:11]: Yeah, my question is uh also while we're talking about voting uh areas. [0:38:11, 0:38:17]: Uh is there a number of of uh voting machines that s and if it's all possible. [0:38:17, 0:38:23]: If we could have voting upstairs in the mural managers where we can put more machines up there to make the line go down quicker. [0:38:23, 0:38:25]: Uh is w is that possible? [0:38:28, 0:38:31]: That is certainly possible if that space is available for us. [0:38:32, 0:38:37]: We can definitely put more machines up there and um have co workers work that. [0:38:37, 0:38:42]: that top level as well. So certainly if that space is available for us, absolutely. [0:38:42, 0:38:52]: Well, Ms. McBride, but then the follow-up to that is if it's available, when will you all be able to take a look at that and then determine how many more machines you can put in here? [0:38:53, 0:39:03]: Uh we can take a look at it as soon as it it's open for us to come take a look at it, we can do that because we can be ready for November election for that. That's no problem whatsoever. [0:39:04, 0:39:05]: Miss Havada. [0:39:06, 0:39:08]: Um that's going to you have [0:39:09, 0:39:10]: I'm sorry. [0:39:10, 0:39:14]: No, go right, Miss Alder. He's okay. He's talking to me. I got him. Go ahead. Go ahead, Miss Alder. [0:39:15, 0:39:22]: That coincides with your budget because for the machines that go in and the staffing that goes in, all of that [0:39:23, 0:39:24]: Yeah. [0:39:24, 0:39:26]: You would have to increase your budget. [0:39:26, 0:39:30]: So you just need to keep that in mind as you do that to make sure that we budget accordingly. [0:39:31, 0:39:50]: Well, uh follow up to that, Ms. Holliday, uh Mr. Knighton, I I I think that this is a be a good move for the city. Uh and if we could find out how many more machines from Miss McBride would it would would be uh added to coming in there and what would the b what would be an increase in budget to uh facilitate that. I would like to get those numbers as soon as possible. [0:39:50, 0:39:51]: Yeah. [0:39:51, 0:39:52]: Question. [0:39:53, 0:39:58]: Are we talking the twenty twenty election or are we talking twenty twenty one? [0:39:59, 0:40:06]: Well, right now I'm talking about election day and uh the actual election day reason being because I think we're still kind of going back and forth. [0:40:07, 0:40:08]: Uh on [0:40:08, 0:40:13]: other aspect not I agree with Councilman Alexander. I think election day in itself [0:40:14, 0:40:21]: It it just too it's it's so chaotic that there has to be a remedy that's at hand now without going through legislation. [0:40:21, 0:40:31]: uh uh our legislators to to remedy and and I this part would help that. I think this this is a start for the city to help remedy that part that portion. [0:40:32, 0:40:39]: Mr. Knight, sir, go ahead, please. Yes, m uh Mayor Ford and and Council. I I would I would simply mention that um [0:40:39, 0:40:43]: I think uh if it if it is the board's desire we need to look at both [0:40:43, 0:40:45]: This year, twenty twenty. [0:40:45, 0:40:51]: And 2021. Voter turnout is going to be extremely heavy in the fall. We all expect that to be the case. [0:40:52, 0:40:57]: And so uh to try to make it uh as accommodating as possible with as many machines as possible. [0:40:58, 0:41:06]: To expedite the voting process in terms of a larger space, I would encourage looking at this year 2020 and also then 2021. [0:41:10, 0:41:10]: Thank you, sir. [0:41:11, 0:41:12]: Any other comments? [0:41:13, 0:41:15]: Yeah, one more if I could. Go right in. [0:41:16, 0:41:23]: Yeah, in terms of the twenty twenty one, I mean there generally we have twenty twenty one to ourself. [0:41:23, 0:41:43]: Th there was a rare occasion where we had the city election and the county election on the same day. Unless there's a splot or something like that going on, it shouldn't be a situation like that where people have to go to two different locations because that was a rare that should be a rare situation. [0:41:43, 0:41:53]: go normally we have the our election day to ourselves so multiple polling locations would be only due to our elections because they're off sea off season. [0:41:54, 0:42:06]: Well actually I appreciate that, but Vanessa Holiday mentioned that the clerk mentioned that earlier that there is a scheduled county election on the for twenty twenty one. Actually, and that's why is it is it is it in November or is it is it uh gonna be in the spring? [0:42:09, 0:42:11]: Um Kruk or Amika, I believe. [0:42:13, 0:42:14]: It's November November. [0:42:15, 0:42:15]: November. [0:42:17, 0:42:20]: What what election is that? I'm sorry. The judgeship. [0:42:20, 0:42:23]: The judge, okay. So it's a special election. [0:42:23, 0:42:23]: Yes. [0:42:24, 0:42:29]: It's a special okay, it's uh a a uh an off s again, an off cycle election. Okay. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: No. And the next FLOSS is scheduled to come up in twenty twenty three. [0:42:36, 0:42:37]: Okay. [0:42:39, 0:42:49]: Okay, which is off your as well. Mr. Knight, go ahead, please. And I I would simply mention that there has been discussion or at least talk at this point about a possible T-SPLOST, transportation splots. [0:42:49, 0:42:55]: Uh for next year as well, although a a date has not been determined. But there has been obvious discussion about that and even [0:42:56, 0:43:00]: Uh, some discussion about having something in November, which obviously did not come to pass. [0:43:00, 0:43:04]: But um there may very well be a T Splost uh as well. [0:43:05, 0:43:10]: Any other comments? Yes, Ms. Holly, go ahead please. [0:43:11, 0:43:14]: Uh we're looking to increase the number of machines. [0:43:15, 0:43:20]: And the the uh location using the upstairs of the Merrill Mandel's Conference Center. [0:43:21, 0:43:23]: For the November twenty twenty. [0:43:24, 0:43:25]: Election. [0:43:26, 0:43:29]: Correct. Yes. Yes. And also twenty one. [0:43:30, 0:43:40]: I'm sorry, and for twenty twenty one, are we still looking because and I'm asking this because if you're looking to add red oak [0:43:40, 0:43:44]: Then that information has to get to the Justice Department. So there's a [0:43:45, 0:43:50]: sequence of events that has to happen for that to happen in time for the twenty twenty one. [0:43:50, 0:43:51]: So [0:43:51, 0:43:53]: An an I need the direction. [0:43:54, 0:43:58]: on where we need to go for twenty twenty well, I understand about twenty twenty. [0:43:59, 0:44:02]: But tell us what you want us to do for twenty twenty one. [0:44:03, 0:44:04]: Now so [0:44:04, 0:44:17]: Well well what I was getting at, uh twenty twenty one, uh then I guess the initial thought was to look at both upstairs and downstairs in mural manners, but also now whether or not we want st to have the county elections um [0:44:18, 0:44:23]: at Red O for 2021 as well versus also at uh Merrill Manors. Is that that what you're asking? [0:44:23, 0:44:25]: That's what I'm asking. Okay. All right. [0:44:25, 0:44:27]: That's what I thought. Just want to make sure. [0:44:27, 0:44:29]: All right, council any comments on that. [0:44:30, 0:44:30]: But [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: Yes. [0:44:33, 0:44:53]: Uh for twenty if I'm are you gonna am I acknowledge? Yeah, yeah, you're acknowledged. Go ahead, sir. Okay, for twenty twenty-one, I think I agree with everything that we was said for twenty twenty, because it's gonna be a monster in twenty twenty. We need everything that we can do in every voting machine possible uh in twenty twenty. I think we need a combination, uh as Councilman Blount has said. [0:44:53, 0:45:13]: said uh more uh machines at Merrill Manders and we need an extra voting location uh on 2021 as well because we know where the votes are coming from. Okay there there's no need in having everybody off of Wall Stevens come to Merrill Manders when they're already they're coming already and when there's a voting precinct that could be [0:45:13, 0:45:14]: Right there. [0:45:16, 0:45:17]: Any other comments? [0:45:18, 0:45:21]: Well I have one. Yeah, go right in, Miss Gantt. [0:45:21, 0:45:27]: Thank you. What what is the cost for an additional precinct, Miss Holliday, for on in twenty twenty one? [0:45:28, 0:45:39]: If it is early voting and election day voting, twenty thousand dollars. If it is only election day voting, fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars. [0:45:40, 0:45:52]: Fifteen hundred. I I I'm okay with the voting day because early voting, they all we can all vote at one precinct, correct? All over the county. [0:45:52, 0:45:57]: Correct. And that's what we need to fix. Again, I ask that we [0:45:58, 0:46:11]: you know, I don't know what the I'm I'm not knocking you, Board of Elections. I'm just asking why haven't we started trying to get this fixed? Um, you know, not you but as a community and as a whole. So [0:46:12, 0:46:14]: Um, I'm okay with the voting. [0:46:14, 0:46:15]: on voting day. [0:46:16, 0:46:20]: Um, for you know, the between the fifteen hundred to two thousand. [0:46:21, 0:46:24]: And are we um looking at red oak? [0:46:26, 0:46:30]: Yeah, yes. As well as Moral Managers Conference Center. [0:46:30, 0:46:31]: Yes. [0:46:31, 0:46:38]: With additional machines, hopefully. Up and downstairs if if possible for at twenty twenty one as well as twenty twenty for Merle Manders. [0:46:39, 0:46:54]: And likewise additional uh machines than what would normally be at Red Oak. Right, correct. Okay. Right. So you have we have that. You don't need to necessarily where's the c uh Mr. Williams, do we need to vote on that? Or is that just uh we just gave some guidance here and acceptance we can go forward? [0:46:56, 0:47:05]: Mr. Will I would like a resolution. Yeah, we we've prepared a resolution based on whatever was discussed tonight so we can get that to Henry County. [0:47:05, 0:47:12]: Um and at the risk of throwing a monkey wrench into all this, um I've been on um [0:47:13, 0:47:19]: uh consulting with with the county attorney uh via text we're looking at the code section. [0:47:19, 0:47:25]: to confirm that there is a requirement in the code section that our municipal [0:47:25, 0:47:28]: polling places be in the city limits and [0:47:28, 0:47:35]: At present I'm not finding one and we're we're going back and forth to to confirm what what is indeed the case. [0:47:36, 0:47:37]: The law says that [0:47:37, 0:47:45]: the where practicable or the precincts have to be the same, and then the polling location has to be within the precinct. [0:47:45, 0:47:49]: Doesn't say the polling location has to be within the city limits. [0:47:50, 0:47:59]: Now for county precincts, obviously all their locations are gonna be in the county because it's county wide and and you don't have any Henry County precincts outside of Henry County. [0:48:00, 0:48:07]: But for the city, um the the way I'm looking at it right now, I haven't found it uh an absolute requirement and and so [0:48:08, 0:48:18]: Um, he and I are are continuing to consult the to make sure we're either right or wrong a as to what the code provides. Um and we we don't have an answer just yet. [0:48:19, 0:48:23]: But as I'm reading it right now, it doesn't look like it has to be in the city limits. [0:48:23, 0:48:29]: I would have to defer to um Brooke and Amika on that. We that's what we spoke about yesterday. [0:48:29, 0:48:32]: And was given that information. [0:48:34, 0:48:43]: Where were you giving it from, if you don't mind? Um Amika and Brooke. We were on a call yesterday. I'll have to double check the codes just to pull them up. [0:48:44, 0:48:45]: And I'll get back t with y'all on that. [0:48:46, 0:48:55]: Yeah, I mean and and and Patrick and I were looking through the code uh as well and and I don't see that requirement that city polling places have to be [0:48:56, 0:48:57]: in the city limits. [0:48:59, 0:48:59]: All right. [0:49:00, 0:49:15]: All right. One standby, Alex that for a second, please. So whatever we decide here, or whatever how we decide this, Mr. Williams, you're gonna draft up a resolution based on what we decided. And then we're gonna be able to approve that. We'll approve that whatever resolution and obviously sign it and give it off to the elections committee. [0:49:17, 0:49:29]: Yes, unless you wanna wait until the fourteenth. I don't know if what the timing is to allow us to confirm the the our understanding of the law so that there's no doubt. All right, we'll decide that just a second. [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: Okay. [0:49:30, 0:49:33]: Yes. Go ahead, Mr. Councilman Alexander. [0:49:36, 0:49:38]: Am I knowledge maybe knowledge? Go ahead, sir. [0:49:38, 0:49:50]: Okay, I just wanna make sure. Okay, in turn it's very I thank you, Mr. Williams, for what you you your your information because it's very key what he just said. If you know, if [0:49:50, 0:49:54]: There can be another location, let's say flipping elementary. [0:49:54, 0:50:03]: Flippin Elementary does not have to be in the city limits. Right. Stockbridge voters can vote there as a county, as a county facility. [0:50:03, 0:50:15]: And it's very close to where s a lot of the Magnolias and Summit and all of those uh areas vote right there. So that's very key. So I mean there could be a third location. [0:50:15, 0:50:26]: in the Eagles landing area based on what Mr. Williams said and it does not necessarily have to be inside the city limits. That was spread it out instead of having the third location [0:50:27, 0:50:47]: At Stockbridge United Methodists, there could be a location in the Eagles Landing area, there could be a location uh at Red Oak, and there could be a location at Merrill Manders for those voters. So everybody could be spread out over time. The only reason that we wouldn't choose Stockbridge First United Methodists, because I mean it's literally to [0:50:47, 0:51:06]: Two blocks from Earl Manders. But the voters in the Eagles Landing area, they need to be represented as well. So I would think that Mr. Williams and Mr. Jockstetter, he's the county attorney. They're very reversed on this. So if we got that information, I would be in favor of having three locations, a third one in the Eagles landing area as well. [0:51:07, 0:51:16]: Ms. Valhalla, go ahead please. Th though though that was actually one of the ones that was on the list that I had and also Pate's Creek. [0:51:18, 0:51:18]: Okay. [0:51:18, 0:51:21]: Okay, thank you. Appreciate that. [0:51:21, 0:51:23]: Uh okay. [0:51:23, 0:51:27]: We got several different things here. County man the county attorneys. [0:51:27, 0:51:38]: Yeah, Patrick has a try to chime in. Oh, he is okay. All right. Go ahead, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good evening, everybody. If I could um suggest [0:51:38, 0:51:41]: to the mayor and council um [0:51:43, 0:51:45]: that the the location of [0:51:46, 0:51:51]: Voting precincts and polling places for city of elections rest entirely with you. [0:51:52, 0:51:55]: You the the mayor and council make that determination. [0:51:55, 0:51:57]: The Board of Elections [0:51:58, 0:52:00]: Will by contract conduct your elections. [0:52:01, 0:52:02]: We will [0:52:02, 0:52:06]: To the extent we have resources available and that we're paid for it, obviously. [0:52:07, 0:52:20]: We will conduct your elections in accordance with you know at the precincts and polling places that you designate. I would urge you to continue uh as you identify polling places, as you uh [0:52:21, 0:52:41]: Work towards that. Make sure you're communicating with Ms. Pitts or Ms. Shriner to make sure that that the Board of Elections has the resources to cover these new polling places. Um we we've only got so many machines, we've only got so much equipment. And as you all know, we only have so many people we can get to work the polls. So be [0:52:41, 0:52:47]: Be cautious in establishing new polling places. Make sure that Miss Pitts and Miss Shriner [0:52:47, 0:52:58]: And the Board of Elections are are capable of manning and equipping those those polling places. I will leave it to Mr. Williams to make a determination as to whether [0:52:59, 0:53:05]: uh voting city voters being forced to leave the city limits to vote in a city election. [0:53:05, 0:53:09]: is legal or not. If I if I find anything that'll help inform his decision I'll [0:53:09, 0:53:11]: Certainly share it, but that's [0:53:11, 0:53:13]: Ultimately a decision that the city has to make. [0:53:14, 0:53:15]: So uh uh [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: Wait, wait, wait. [0:53:19, 0:53:38]: I I want to make sure that um that we're kind of all clear on what our lane is. The the Board of Elections lane in this in this discussion will simply to be simply be to conduct the election that we contract with you to conduct. Um as always, we'll provide whatever backup assistance and resources we can. [0:53:39, 0:53:45]: All right, thank you. Mr uh Councilman Blount, please. I'll come to you, Ms. Bright, in just a second. Councilman Blount, go ahead. I I appreciate that. Uh [0:53:46, 0:53:49]: Mr. Josh Settler, but Miss McBride, you all are here. [0:53:50, 0:53:54]: Will you be able to facilitate more volunteers? I mean, you all would know that more than anybody. [0:53:55, 0:53:56]: Not in a [0:53:56, 0:53:59]: Well we're hoping that [0:53:59, 0:54:01]: The facilities that you choose will be [0:54:02, 0:54:07]: precincts that we already have, like Pate's P Pate's Creek is already a precinct for us. [0:54:07, 0:54:11]: Red Oak is already a precinct. I know Miss Holliday mentioned that. [0:54:11, 0:54:12]: They were looking at Eagles Landing. [0:54:12, 0:54:16]: Christian, well we have a precinct a tabernacle of praise. [0:54:16, 0:54:22]: So if that would suffice instead of um Eagles Landing Christian, then we already have a precinct there. So we'll be able to [0:54:23, 0:54:25]: of course accommodate there as well. [0:54:25, 0:54:45]: Yeah, the reason I asked that because more voting um machines doesn't need more volunteers because you're only gonna get the same information up front to go absolutely. Absolutely. And we we are we feel pretty confident with our um volunteers, our coworkers that we have now in Brooke, you can feel free. [0:54:45, 0:54:46]: Free to [0:54:46, 0:54:52]: Elaborate on that, but certainly if you were to have them where we already have precincts. [0:54:52, 0:54:55]: that would help us so therefore we won't have to [0:54:55, 0:54:58]: spread the volunteers out any further, but of course we will do [0:54:58, 0:55:01]: Whatever we need to do to be supported, but we [0:55:01, 0:55:03]: certainly would like for you to try in [0:55:04, 0:55:09]: have them at the locations that we currently have precincts that would be beneficial to you then. [0:55:10, 0:55:11]: Thank you. All right. [0:55:12, 0:55:12]: So [0:55:13, 0:55:25]: All right, Alexander, you gonna make a motion or you just have another comment? I I just wanna ask th the the statement was made that we needed to do something legislatively in order to [0:55:25, 0:55:45]: Get the problem fixed. Is there a template or is the city attorney prepared to do it? Because I think Councilwoman Gann is right. We need to do it. What is it that needs to be done on our end? Maybe Mr. Williams can answer that question, or maybe the lady. Or Mr. Jox had her yes, they probably can tell us the process for going getting that. [0:55:45, 0:55:46]: That done. [0:55:46, 0:55:56]: I well I would suggest you delay a vote on this until the fourteenth so that we can confirm for a fact that there is no legislation needed because right now I don't see [0:55:57, 0:56:01]: that that's a requirement, but I I could be wrong. So I don't wanna give a a [0:56:02, 0:56:04]: In answer tonight and be proved wrong tomorrow. [0:56:05, 0:56:25]: And so assuming that I'm right, then we would just need our staff and the the election staff to come up with something that made sense that had maybe additional polling places that matched the existing county location so that there's no new stuff that they have to do other than make sure that [0:56:25, 0:56:25]: That it's [0:56:26, 0:56:27]: practical. [0:56:27, 0:56:47]: Um so that's that's the first thing. If I'm wrong and that you do need legislation, then that's that's just like any other legislation. We need to go to the delegation and get someone to carry some legislation to to to open that up. And that and that's you know, that's no different than any other legislative effort we'd had to deal with in terms of getting the general assembly [0:56:47, 0:56:50]: [3411.3, 3426.0]: And I think um Councilman Alexander raised I think there have been two questions raised that may or may not require legislative attention. The first is the one Mr. Williams referenced, which is where city residents can go vote. And the second issue [0:57:06, 0:57:07]: Із [0:57:08, 0:57:11]: to address the difference between early voting [0:57:12, 0:57:16]: And election day voting. As as y'all have discussed, early voting. [0:57:16, 0:57:19]: You are permitted to cast your ballot at any [0:57:20, 0:57:20]: Uh [0:57:21, 0:57:28]: any office that the elections folks maintain. On election day you are limited to casting your ballot. [0:57:28, 0:57:30]: In the precinct to which you're assigned. [0:57:31, 0:57:35]: There is there is one minor exception to that and um [0:57:36, 0:57:48]: And and I'm I haven't looked this up. I'm I'm saying this off the top of my head and maybe Brooke knows or or Miss Pitts knows for sure. But I believe if a voter goes to the wrong precinct. [0:57:49, 0:57:52]: They are permitted to cast a provisional paper ballot. [0:57:52, 0:57:55]: Yeah. So I I think [0:57:56, 0:57:58]: Someone could vote. [0:57:58, 0:58:01]: outside of their precinct on election day. [0:58:02, 0:58:06]: It's just gonna be by paper ballot, it's gonna be a provisional ballot. [0:58:06, 0:58:12]: And so it's gonna go through the the provisional ballot approval process. [0:58:12, 0:58:12]: Um [0:58:13, 0:58:20]: Uh so it is possible to vote outside of your precinct on election day. I don't think you want to encourage people to do that. I think [0:58:20, 0:58:21]: I I think it's [0:58:22, 0:58:24]: I th I think most people are probably [0:58:24, 0:58:37]: concerned, especially what's happened in the last couple of election cycles about casting provisional ballots and probably also about paper ballots. But I I do think in order to to change the law where [0:58:37, 0:58:41]: I can go to any precinct on election day. [0:58:41, 0:58:49]: And cast my ballot on the new voting tablets, that would require, I believe, statewide legislation. So it would take. [0:58:50, 0:58:57]: someone with enough pull at the legislature to get enough votes for that proposal to pass statewide. I don't think you could accomplish that. [0:58:58, 0:58:59]: by local legislation. [0:59:00, 0:59:07]: Ms. McBride, I saw your hand. Did you have something else? Yes, yes, thank you. And I I just want to say thank you to the attorneys for expounding on that. [0:59:07, 0:59:10]: And I want to make sure the council is clear that [0:59:10, 0:59:12]: We can help. [0:59:12, 0:59:16]: alleviate the issue that we have with t county and city election being on the same [0:59:17, 0:59:21]: date and uh like we are now saying we'll work together with the precincts and the [0:59:22, 0:59:26]: The voting locations to try to make sure that the citizens only go to one location. [0:59:27, 0:59:30]: That can certainly be resolved at the county level. [0:59:30, 0:59:32]: But when it comes to what um [0:59:33, 0:59:35]: Councilwoman Gantt was asking about [0:59:36, 0:59:40]: Just voting anywhere within the county at any time, like we do. [0:59:40, 0:59:42]: early voting doing it on election day as well. [0:59:43, 0:59:44]: Like uh [0:59:44, 0:59:47]: Attorney Jacques Sadder has said that will require us to [0:59:51, 0:59:53]: Uh oh. Uh oh, she froze. [0:59:57, 1:00:06]: I think she was gonna say legislation. Yeah, I would think that's what it sounds like. But uh she is she's frozen. I think she's now disconnected or something. Okay, wow. [1:00:07, 1:00:27]: Okay, maybe she'll get back here. Okay, so otherwise, based on all this discussion and based on what what uh the thought process from Mr. Williams, it seems though, council, that uh probably prudent for us to delay this for at least a couple weeks, allow the additional research to occur, and we'll come back and put this on the on the on the agenda for the fourteenth and uh go for there and vote. Does that sound good? Sound like a [1:00:27, 1:00:28]: logical thing to do. [1:00:29, 1:00:30]: Folks. [1:00:30, 1:00:32]: Yes, nope. Okay. All right. [1:00:33, 1:00:45]: All right. I guess that's what we'll end up doing. I she comes back, we'll we'll get her back in for her comments, but uh I'm back I'm back now. Thank you. I I finished. Thank you so very much. I don't know what happened. We all kind of just went out. [1:00:45, 1:00:47]: For a second there, but [1:00:47, 1:00:48]: I just um [1:00:49, 1:00:51]: Just petition everyone. Let's talk to our [1:00:51, 1:00:57]: representatives and our senators and and and share with them our desire to make sure that this is [1:00:57, 1:01:04]: Um, an opportunity to just change the voting system in the state of Georgia so that we can have our citizens vote at any location. [1:01:04, 1:01:10]: regardless of what precinct they're in, if they work in Locust Grove and they may live in McDonough. [1:01:10, 1:01:11]: That they can [1:01:11, 1:01:15]: boat in Locust Grove, they don't have to wait until they get back to McDonough to cast their vote. [1:01:16, 1:01:19]: So hopefully we can push a legislation for that and [1:01:19, 1:01:22]: And sometime in the near future we can see that coming to fruition. [1:01:23, 1:01:24]: Okay. [1:01:24, 1:01:30]: Thank you. I think we're set for this particular uh item for tonight anyway. [1:01:30, 1:01:48]: Absolutely. Okay, I'm gonna move on to the next one, but uh we'll bring this back on the fourteenth, Mike. All right, and uh have us prepare for that, sir. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Uh thank you thank you. And folks from the election board, you're more than welcome to stay. It's up to you. But uh if you have other things to do, so long have a good evening. But you're more than welcome to stay if you like. [1:01:48, 1:01:55]: Uh old business. Well we thank you all for inviting us and feel free to definitely invite us anytime that you have [1:01:55, 1:02:00]: questions or concerns regarding the election process or how we can assist you as a city. [1:02:00, 1:02:03]: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [1:02:03, 1:02:03]: Good night. [1:02:04, 1:02:04]: Deny. [1:02:05, 1:02:19]: Council consideration to approve the purchase of a 19500 G VW chassis with a rugby block of dump international CV dump bed truck from Rush Truck Center of Georgia, incorporated RFP number two zero one nine. [1:02:20, 1:02:37]: Dash 007P dash state contract nine nine nine nine nine dash zero zero one dash spd zero zero zero zero zero one five five an amount of sixty nine thousand dollars seventy three six hundred six sixty nine thousand seven hundred six hundred seventy three dollars and eighty four cents [1:02:38, 1:02:42]: Funding source, uh the water department budget and Miss Miller and Dessus Aaron, please. [1:02:45, 1:02:53]: Good afternoon, Council, uh Mayor of Council. Um I also wanted to send my condolences out to the uh Blake family um out of Wisconsin. [1:02:54, 1:03:01]: Uh the procurement division is requesting council approval to piggyback. We brought this to you um at the last meeting. [1:03:01, 1:03:05]: We have um confirmed that the contract has been um renewed. [1:03:06, 1:03:08]: Which means that it's good through. [1:03:08, 1:03:12]: um august tu taus т ам соро твані тваті ва [1:03:13, 1:03:28]: So the uh purpose of this contract is to provide the city with an international CD dump bed truck necessary for the water and sewer department to bring and remove debris from the work sites. Uh and that being said, I'll turn it over to uh Mr. Aaron. [1:03:29, 1:03:48]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. I I'll let Mr. Mullis, our water superintendent, speak to that. But we're asking to replace a nineteen eighty-seven dump truck that has holes in the floorboard that staff when they use it is unsafe. They gotta let the windows down because you got exhaust fumes getting into the cab or the truck. So [1:03:48, 1:03:57]: They're not able to do some things that they need to do in the water and sewer department, but I'll let Mr. Muller speak to that as well. [1:03:59, 1:04:01]: And good afternoon, Mayor and Council. [1:04:02, 1:04:03]: Can I actually know? [1:04:04, 1:04:05]: Everybody can hear me? [1:04:05, 1:04:06]: Go right here. [1:04:09, 1:04:14]: Yeah, we're basically asking for the dump truck. The the one that we have [1:04:14, 1:04:15]: Is [1:04:15, 1:04:17]: In dire repair. [1:04:18, 1:04:24]: It's it's not feasible to put money into it to refurbish it to make it work safely. [1:04:25, 1:04:30]: Right now the dump truck in question, the thirty-three year old dump truck. [1:04:30, 1:04:37]: We've got it parked. I will not let anybody drive it because it is unsafe. It has trouble with the brakes locking up. [1:04:38, 1:04:46]: You can't haul off any spoils with it because it has wood rails instead of metal rails and it's not a sealed bed, it's a flat bed. [1:04:47, 1:04:51]: That being said, everything as far as that dump truck. [1:04:51, 1:04:53]: is extremely outdated. [1:04:55, 1:04:56]: Take [1:04:56, 1:05:00]: Like Dashes were saying that you know, it has holes in the floorboard. [1:05:00, 1:05:02]: It's stick shift. [1:05:02, 1:05:05]: And it requires a CDL to drive. [1:05:08, 1:05:09]: So we're just asking that [1:05:10, 1:05:11]: You know, council consider [1:05:12, 1:05:13]: Replace me. [1:05:14, 1:05:17]: I thank you. Appreciate it. Ms. Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:05:17, 1:05:30]: Uh yes sir. Thank you. Uh Mr. Mills. I I think that uh you know, we have no doubt that um that you need this truck and the truck needs to be replaced. The one thing that this council always asks [1:05:31, 1:05:34]: Everybody and I want to ask you the same question. [1:05:34, 1:05:39]: Do you have what you need to have somebody in that truck? [1:05:39, 1:05:43]: To use it adequately. Do you have the staffing? [1:05:44, 1:05:46]: As well. Why are you asking him for the truck? [1:05:46, 1:06:00]: I don't want to get the truck and it's sitting on the city property. I want to get the truck and somebody can use it and somebody's going to be using it on a regular basis. And then I'm going to come back to you and say, well, the truck's sitting there. [1:06:01, 1:06:08]: Is somebody using it? Do you have what you need, Mr. Aaron, to have somebody in this truck? [1:06:08, 1:06:18]: On a regular basis or do you need to add somebody? Because if you need to ask somebody, ask the council now so we can give you what you need to make sure the truck is used appropriately. [1:06:19, 1:06:26]: Yes, sir. I I can guarantee you that you will definitely see that truck in the city of Scott Bridge. [1:06:27, 1:06:35]: Because it is a definite need as far as when we have a work site as far as hauling off spoils and hauling in good dirt. [1:06:35, 1:06:42]: In situations like that, I can guarantee you being used in the city of Stockbridge. [1:06:43, 1:06:50]: I would like to make a motion to approve uh the recommendation of the public works department uh for the purchase of this truck. [1:06:50, 1:06:51]: A second. [1:06:51, 1:06:53]: Okay in a second. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:06:54, 1:07:04]: Yeah, uh Mayor, the thing about it and I one of the things I do agree with Councilman Alexander, we've always asked staff, what do you need? What do you need? What what what can we do to help? [1:07:05, 1:07:10]: And as far as the public works, when they come to us and saying that they have these trucks that are [1:07:11, 1:07:16]: Twenty some odd years old, thirty some oh thirty years old and and and they're raggedy and ran down. [1:07:17, 1:07:19]: It's up to us to get the updated equipment. [1:07:20, 1:07:25]: And if staff is not putting people in that equipment or they're not using that equipment efficiently or or [1:07:26, 1:07:31]: Or things are being lacked because we purchased new equipment. We're gonna still need the equipment. [1:07:31, 1:07:40]: Then that's a then there will be other adjustments needs to be made. But when they when the staff come to us needing equipment that is thirty years old, thirty thirty or thirty plus years old. [1:07:41, 1:07:47]: The city of Stockbridge itself needs to replace that equipment regardless of what staff is in place. [1:07:47, 1:07:55]: And so that's why I'm agreeing, and I say I and I'm voting for it, because this is what we need to do for the city of Stockbridge when it comes to equipment. [1:07:56, 1:07:59]: And any adjustments we need to make make beyond that. [1:07:59, 1:08:03]: Then that is what need to be made. But the equipment is old and then there's [1:08:04, 1:08:12]: There's a turnover of of equipment that needs to be replaced. And this is this as well as other equipment that's come forward. This is what this is what the department needs. [1:08:13, 1:08:16]: Okay, thank you. Any other comments from the council? [1:08:17, 1:08:22]: Okay. Uh count a motion was made, it's been seconded by uh Miss Kant. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:08:24, 1:08:26]: All right, so now sorry, fantastic. [1:08:27, 1:08:34]: Council consideration. Thank you. Council consideration to approve resolution to authorize the [1:08:35, 1:08:42]: Uh I'm screwed, screw I'm jumping the gun. Number five. Excuse me, new business. Number five. Council consideration to approve the pine grove subdivision phase two. [1:08:42, 1:08:44]: And phase three street lights petition. [1:08:45, 1:08:48]: For the annual cost of four thousand eight hundred eight hundred and thirty five dollars and fifty four cents. [1:08:49, 1:08:52]: Funding source of general fund. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:08:52, 1:09:10]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Uh we received a call from the Hono Homeowners Association who is currently paying the street light assessment for phase two and phase three. The city is already paying the street lights for phase one. This is a subdivision that's been permitted for several years, but when the housing [1:09:11, 1:09:16]: crash happened, they stopped building like they normally build. So this is a subdivision that had already been permitted. [1:09:17, 1:09:35]: And the lighting plan, to my understanding, had already been approved, but it's just taken a while to get to this point where the subdivision is starting to get built out. And the homeowners association is requesting, they've submitted the petitions, we reviewed them and requesting that the city assume the payment of these lights. [1:09:37, 1:09:37]: Okay. [1:09:38, 1:09:40]: All right. Uh Ms Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [1:09:41, 1:09:48]: Thank you. These lights payments are just so from my understanding are prior to [1:09:49, 1:09:49]: Um [1:09:51, 1:09:59]: Our current resolution. These are things that took place before the resolution that we have now about lights. Is that not correct? [1:10:00, 1:10:07]: Yes, ma'am, this is a subdivision. Like I said, it's been on on the drawing boards for several years. And when the housing crash happened, they just stopped building. [1:10:08, 1:10:08]: Mm-hmm. [1:10:09, 1:10:10]: Okay, thank you. [1:10:11, 1:10:12]: Any other questions? [1:10:13, 1:10:13]: Concerns. [1:10:14, 1:10:15]: Uh Mr. Alexander, go ahead. [1:10:16, 1:10:19]: I'd just like to go ahead and make a motion to approve this request. [1:10:20, 1:10:21]: Um a lot of style. [1:10:21, 1:10:22]: Is there a second? [1:10:23, 1:10:26]: Second. Miss Barber, second now. Any further discussion? [1:10:27, 1:10:29]: If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:10:30, 1:10:33]: Okay, unanimous. Fantastic. Thank you very much. [1:10:34, 1:10:49]: Council consideration to approve resolution to authorize the execution of the coronavirus relief fund, CFR, terms and conditions agreement to authorize acceptance of grant payments, including all understanding and assurances contained within such an agreement. [1:10:49, 1:11:04]: to direct and authorize the person identified as the official representative of the city or a design of the city to act in connection with the grant application and to provide such additional information as may be required. Mr. Williams, please. [1:11:10, 1:11:11]: Or about that. Um [1:11:12, 1:11:25]: So this is more of a housekeeping thing, um, for the city uh to be able to to uh file um its reimbursement request for the CARES Act funding and [1:11:25, 1:11:26]: through the state. [1:11:27, 1:11:29]: Um they are requiring at all uh [1:11:30, 1:11:32]: the local governments adopt. [1:11:32, 1:11:33]: Uh [1:11:33, 1:11:38]: the a resolution. This is the the model resolution that they have forwarded. [1:11:38, 1:11:47]: Um, and it's very similar to the adoption of the the grant assurances for when we receive any kind of federal grant. So they're the same. [1:11:47, 1:11:51]: Um provisions and by and large I've approved them. They're fine. [1:11:51, 1:11:56]: Um and so again it's a housekeeping measure and I recommend approval. [1:11:57, 1:11:58]: Mr. Knighton, please. [1:11:59, 1:12:09]: Yes, I think um that is the baseline um issue here of uh receiving these grant uh funds. Uh as I've uh indicated to you. [1:12:09, 1:12:11]: Uh via uh email. [1:12:11, 1:12:18]: that the federal government via the state has provided CARES Act funding um for cities and counties, local governments. [1:12:18, 1:12:24]: Uh, there was a round of money that went out uh in summertime for governments of five hundred thousand or more. [1:12:24, 1:12:30]: This round of money essentially is for governments of two hundred and fifty thousand and less, of which Henry County [1:12:31, 1:12:33]: And its cities fall into that category. [1:12:33, 1:12:37]: The money was split into two parts, a thirty percent and a seventy percent. [1:12:38, 1:12:41]: And quite honestly, there was uh quite a bit of [1:12:42, 1:12:46]: question about how the funds could be used, how they would be allocated and so forth. [1:12:47, 1:12:55]: I participated on the GMA webinar yesterday and actually a couple of other items uh or informational sessions last week as well. And there still were [1:12:55, 1:12:57]: questions about [1:12:57, 1:13:02]: Um how funds could be used, when they would have to be expended and so forth. [1:13:03, 1:13:07]: So the city of Stockbridge is our portion is right at four hundred and sixty [1:13:08, 1:13:12]: Six thousand dollars, I believe. Forgive me, I've I I'm trying to get the exact number here. [1:13:13, 1:13:18]: But just over four hundred and sixty um thousand dollars. That's the thirty percent portion. [1:13:19, 1:13:26]: The other portion, um, with a seventy percent portion, the two portions total about one point five six five million dollars. [1:13:27, 1:13:35]: So the 30% portion, um, we went in and uh as we were requested by GMA, we went in and set up our account and so forth. [1:13:35, 1:13:45]: couple of weeks ago and then all of a sudden the money appeared, the thirty percent portion appeared, four hundred and sixty thousand dollars, which we were asked to do by GMA to make sure we received the money. [1:13:46, 1:13:48]: Which was deposited in our account. [1:13:48, 1:13:51]: then the seventy percent portion [1:13:52, 1:14:03]: Once the$460,000, the 30% portion is expended, you then go in into the second portal and you have to provide documentation for how those monies can be spent. [1:14:04, 1:14:09]: So basically it's one point five million dollars, one and a half million dollars. [1:14:09, 1:14:11]: It's been allocated to the city of Stockbury. [1:14:12, 1:14:14]: All of this has been allocated by population again. [1:14:15, 1:14:20]: Now, uh one of the issues with the city is that we do not have a police and fire department. [1:14:21, 1:14:30]: Uh, and much of the law enforcement public safety arena, they are the ones who've incurred much of the COVID related cost. In fact, [1:14:30, 1:14:32]: if for a police department. [1:14:32, 1:14:38]: You could actually take all of the police department salary, your entire police department salary from March the first. [1:14:39, 1:14:43]: March the first up until now and pay your entire police department salaries. [1:14:44, 1:14:46]: from that fund of money. [1:14:47, 1:14:50]: Uh that has been the interpretation from GMA and that quite frankly for the [1:14:51, 1:14:57]: uh cities uh and counties that are uh going to utilize this money, that's basically what they're doing. [1:14:57, 1:15:01]: They're just taking their entire salaries from March first for police. [1:15:01, 1:15:04]: And they're applying this money against that particular item. [1:15:05, 1:15:14]: Now for us obviously we don't have police and fire. We have had certain expenditures, masks, hand sanitizers, dispensers, extra cleaning. [1:15:15, 1:15:21]: All of those things that um uh have been covert related, uh items for teleworking, for instance, all of those [1:15:21, 1:15:23]: are items that can be used for [1:15:23, 1:15:28]: uh reimbursement, which we have identified and been keeping track of along the way. [1:15:28, 1:15:35]: However, um we won't uh get close to based on those particular expenditures, we won't get close to [1:15:36, 1:15:38]: The one point five million dollars that's available. [1:15:39, 1:15:41]: And so last week as I I sent email to you. [1:15:42, 1:15:46]: Um, based upon the fact that those monies are available. [1:15:46, 1:15:48]: And they could be used. [1:15:49, 1:15:55]: for um uh small business support, rent utilities, those types of things for small business support. [1:15:56, 1:16:09]: I sent that information to you as an option of utilizing a portion or a good portion of those funds. Obviously, many small businesses have been hurt during this pandemic and have experienced numerous challenges. [1:16:09, 1:16:14]: And this could be a means by which we can provide that level of support. [1:16:15, 1:16:17]: Um, especially since we don't have [1:16:17, 1:16:22]: the vast direct expenses that many other governments with public safety [1:16:22, 1:16:23]: Departments do. [1:16:24, 1:16:30]: And so with that, um I did have uh some conversation with uh Mr. Henning from the Chamber. [1:16:31, 1:16:34]: about what that could possibly look like if it is something [1:16:34, 1:16:40]: That the mayor and council want to uh consider because I knew he had been working or the chamber had been working on. [1:16:41, 1:16:43]: Um setting up a framework. [1:16:43, 1:16:46]: That could be utilized potentially for. [1:16:47, 1:16:48]: Excuse me. [1:16:48, 1:16:50]: uh local governments to um [1:16:51, 1:16:52]: partner, if you will. [1:16:53, 1:17:11]: with uh the chamber and small businesses could potentially go through that framework or that portal, if you will, to provide information to be able to uh receive those funds if in fact the mayor and council want to consider using a portion of those funds uh for that small business support. [1:17:12, 1:17:16]: So that in i is is a general overview. [1:17:17, 1:17:19]: of what we're looking at with the CARES Act is Mr. [1:17:20, 1:17:22]: Williams mentioned, we of obviously want you to [1:17:23, 1:17:25]: Acknowledge and approve our receipt. [1:17:25, 1:17:27]: Of being able to receive those funds. [1:17:28, 1:17:29]: And utilize those funds accordingly. [1:17:30, 1:17:34]: But also then we have uh the second issue, uh, as I've out [1:17:35, 1:17:55]: Okay. Mr. Henning, um, could you explain potentially how you can assist us uh the city in in accomplishing this particular mission? What what what do you have planned here? What what what process? Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council. Um we did we did begin working with the with Henry County government and set up a portal uh that [1:17:55, 1:18:04]: look it it it looked at all of the opportunities that small businesses could take advantage of and and participate in this and then um [1:18:04, 1:18:24]: an online portal then that they can apply for the grant depending on what uh what the city determines any limits or anything like that that it would be um it's all secured it's all confidential um it comes in uh I I currently I'm the only one with access to it so that it comes in and the committee would review that. [1:18:24, 1:18:40]: uh determine whether or not they're eligible, they meet the criteria they didn't receive PPP funding because you can't receive that, you can't duplicate uh the two different sources. Um and so there's a few different qualifications that they have to uh uh uh comply with as well as provide information [1:18:40, 1:19:00]: um that they are licensed in in this case that they're licensed to do business in the city of Stockbridge, that they're licensed through the the uh occupancy office there um and a few other uh other pieces then that we would set as as requirements for a a Stockbridge business and then um with that the final report would [1:19:00, 1:19:09]: would be made back to the council on uh the number of applications and and those approvals and the money that was expended um through the the audit process and that. [1:19:10, 1:19:10]: All right. [1:19:11, 1:19:11]: Right. [1:19:12, 1:19:14]: So questions council, you have. [1:19:15, 1:19:16]: All right, Mr. Alexander, go ahead. [1:19:17, 1:19:37]: Yeah, I'm uh I just want to say I'm fully in support of helping small business in any way that we can. And I think the right thing to do is to be able to reach out to the small business uh network in Stockbridge. And I think that um, you know, the city, I think every business in Stockbridge has an occupational license. [1:19:36, 1:19:41]: license so I think you know our staff would have very good access to [1:19:41, 1:20:01]: who uh is uh who should be s who this information should be sent out to. So if we work through even if we work through the chamber, they would have to get the information from us in order to facilitate it. I do I would like to hear more in detail about how it would actually work. So we can kind of decide uh how we're going to do it, whether [1:20:01, 1:20:21]: We're gonna do it in-house or whether we're gonna do it uh with the chamber. I think Henry County decided to do it in-house. So I would like to know more about it than just kind of a brief conversation because we got to turn this around uh very, very quickly. I do think that in the end, some of the municipalities are using it for rent relief. [1:20:21, 1:20:25]: relief as well because we have a lot of unemployed citizens. [1:20:26, 1:20:46]: And um we don't wanna see folks with couches and sofas out on the curb in front of all of our apartment buildings. So I would think that we will probably wanna reserve a portion of that for some type of rent relief too. But I'm in support of using it for small business relief and I think probably everybody would be for I I would hope to say, but I'll let everyb [1:20:46, 1:20:50]: Everybody speak on that for themselves. Ms. Cant, did you have your hand up, ma'am? [1:20:51, 1:21:02]: You're you're muted. You're muted. Okay. Hi. Uh one of my concerns, um, if we do when we talk about small businesses, of course we all um support small small businesses, I'm sure. [1:21:03, 1:21:03]: Um [1:21:04, 1:21:06]: When when they apply for [1:21:07, 1:21:09]: this particular fund. [1:21:10, 1:21:10]: Um [1:21:11, 1:21:24]: There are some small businesses that have suffered more than others. Um, and I say that being that you may have some facilities that have not been able to operate. [1:21:24, 1:21:30]: Because i whether it's a a bar or whether it's um [1:21:30, 1:21:44]: some kind of, you know, meeting gathering place where they haven't been able to operate at all. And then you have those other businesses that are business as usual. They may not have as many people come in. [1:21:44, 1:21:51]: But they have a larger percentage than those places that the governor actually put on a list and limited. [1:21:51, 1:22:01]: um and rule d things that could and could not take place. Um and so how are we how is that gonna pan out or have have [1:22:02, 1:22:04]: Ви воде бі а скал? [1:22:04, 1:22:10]: um of a particular type of business and priority wise or is it just whoever applies? Um [1:22:11, 1:22:14]: You know, and if they haven't received the other benefits already. [1:22:16, 1:22:26]: Mr. Lighton, um go ahead, sir. Yeah, I think that's that would be a part of the review process if if the chamber is involved, that the chamber would do there would be an application. [1:22:26, 1:22:35]: where each business would have to go through that application, fill out the necessary information on that application to ensure that they would um be eligible. [1:22:36, 1:22:48]: uh for these particular funds. And then it would be reviewed in this case if we um are connected to the chamber in this case, reviewed by the chamber to ensure that everything uh is in order with respect to the application. [1:22:49, 1:22:57]: We had talked about um in the preliminary sense, um, there being some type of limit or cap on the amount of funds that a particular business could receive. [1:22:58, 1:23:01]: But again, that's left up uh to the council to determine. [1:23:01, 1:23:06]: Um the uh other item would be the amount that you want to allocate. [1:23:06, 1:23:09]: Um as well, the total amount that you want to allocate. [1:23:09, 1:23:13]: You know, this could be done on a first come, first serve basis in terms of [1:23:13, 1:23:17]: Uh the applications that are received until funds are exhausted. [1:23:17, 1:23:21]: Uh or there could be um a uh committee set up to [1:23:21, 1:23:22]: Review [1:23:23, 1:23:25]: um those applications and make determination. [1:23:26, 1:23:32]: I think the one thing, the the most important thing in terms of the timing of all of this, and this was an issue. [1:23:32, 1:23:35]: Ви ситі з каунті'як стайт. [1:23:35, 1:23:45]: And I know that eight uh ACCG Association County Commissioners of Georgia and GMA have been lobbying governor's office or inquiring about extending the deadline, but it doesn't seem it's gonna be expent uh extended. [1:23:46, 1:23:50]: That the cities would need to expend or account for funds. [1:23:51, 1:23:54]: Um or spend those funds by September first. [1:23:55, 1:23:56]: That's you know the issue now. [1:23:57, 1:24:04]: If they in fact are expended to the chamber in this case, if the county or the the the council wants to go that route. [1:24:05, 1:24:06]: Then [1:24:06, 1:24:09]: They they could work with those local businesses. [1:24:09, 1:24:14]: And provide those funds beyond that beyond September first. [1:24:15, 1:24:16]: I've got that correct. [1:24:16, 1:24:21]: It the monies from the city have to be allocated by September first. [1:24:21, 1:24:24]: But you have an opportunity, or there would be an opportunity. [1:24:24, 1:24:30]: to provide those funds, uh review and vet applications and provide those funds beyond that. [1:24:30, 1:24:34]: Those funds actually have to be spent by those businesses. [1:24:34, 1:24:36]: By the end of this year. [1:24:37, 1:24:43]: All right. You had a recommendation uh for both the cap as well uh the total amount and also [1:24:44, 1:24:48]: a a thought process for per business. Do you want to discuss that or mention that now, sir? [1:24:48, 1:24:58]: I I will mention that and um my initial thought was based on um what my initial understanding was, which was akin to what many other cities [1:24:58, 1:25:01]: thought about the thirty percent and seventy percent money. [1:25:01, 1:25:08]: My initial thought was about the thirty percent money, but all of it, we understand now all of it. There's been was communication even over the weekend. [1:25:08, 1:25:09]: All of the money. [1:25:10, 1:25:20]: total has to be expended by September the first. So that being the case, there's obviously a much larger pool of money that could be available and would be available. [1:25:20, 1:25:22]: If it is the council's choosing. [1:25:23, 1:25:24]: Mr. Blount, please. [1:25:25, 1:25:28]: Mr. Night, I appreciate that information. Um and I agree with uh [1:25:29, 1:25:49]: Councilman uh Alexander and and Councilwoman Gantt. One of the things because I I and I agree that when we talk about expenditures of money that are coming in that are gonna be through the city of Stockbridge, I would like for uh us to have a three or four person committee or something like that to to confirm allocations of funds to the businesses in the city limits of Stockbridge. [1:25:49, 1:25:49]: Yeah. [1:25:50, 1:26:04]: Also, uh, if we could look at maybe because we're talking about how much how much business is it's gotta be first come, first serve until funds are gone. Why don't we look into something that's sixty to seventy five percent of the business and stop bridge and then we determine how much that would be? [1:26:05, 1:26:15]: uh per business and then this first come first serve or however however uh number you can make that to be and and it has to be first come first because it's hard for us to determine [1:26:16, 1:26:18]: What business need more than another? [1:26:18, 1:26:23]: And and we in the short limit of time we have, we have to come up with some type of formula. [1:26:23, 1:26:29]: to to to uh get these funds out, but I still but I do want the city of Stockbridge. [1:26:29, 1:26:33]: Uh I I want staff or some board that that that that comes up to uh [1:26:34, 1:26:38]: play a role in what what businesses get that get those fundings. [1:26:38, 1:26:48]: All right. Go through this process but by utilizing the services of the chamber. [1:26:49, 1:26:52]: Is that is that something that uh we want to do? [1:26:54, 1:26:56]: All right. Mayor split. [1:26:56, 1:27:04]: Yeah, well anybody. I mean I'm I'm talking to I'm talking to all of y'all. Well well I'm just saying I'm saying for me, I'm only one boat. For me. [1:27:04, 1:27:12]: If the city of Stockbridge can come up with their own board and we can just get those uh facilitate getting those funds out, I'm fine with it. But if we can't, [1:27:12, 1:27:18]: And if this if the chamber's in place to do that, then I'm okay with that. But I would look in in-house for the city to [1:27:19, 1:27:23]: Whatever we can do to facilitate it first. I mean, why put another entity on something that we're able to do? [1:27:24, 1:27:25]: Mr. Nine, please address that, sir. [1:27:26, 1:27:29]: No, I I think given again the [1:27:30, 1:27:33]: Expediency with by which we need to [1:27:33, 1:27:40]: or the council needs to consider allocating funds. And the apparatus essentially is set up already through the chamber. [1:27:41, 1:27:48]: Um, I think that uh I I I would recommend at this point that that's what uh uh the council do now. [1:27:48, 1:27:51]: The the issue with respect to [1:27:51, 1:27:56]: allocating the funds or which businesses receive the funds and how that's done. [1:27:56, 1:28:00]: That can be a stock bridge committee, if you will. [1:28:01, 1:28:03]: That can determine make that determination. [1:28:04, 1:28:05]: That makes sense. [1:28:06, 1:28:10]: The chamber would be the mechanism by which applications would be funneled. [1:28:10, 1:28:15]: reviewed and then if you would like to have a stockbridge committee [1:28:15, 1:28:19]: to make those determinations about or make or or determine the [1:28:19, 1:28:22]: manner in which funds are allocated. [1:28:22, 1:28:24]: That can be done. Just a follow up with Ms. Knight. [1:28:25, 1:28:29]: Uh, if you would clarify what apparatus are you talking about and uh [1:28:30, 1:28:35]: Be because I know that we have pe we have uh people in place and we have our own [1:28:36, 1:28:55]: Uh we we we know what businesses are in the city limits and um I'm just saying I don't know what apparatus are you talking about that the chamber would have that we wouldn't be able to facilitate or they could facilitate. Right. The the I think the issue and and now I'll look to the attorney to to make this clarification as well, but the issue is those funds would still be in our hands. [1:28:57, 1:28:58]: By September first. [1:28:58, 1:28:59]: That's the issue. [1:29:00, 1:29:05]: Um and if they're if if if they're in we we can't hold on to those funds. [1:29:06, 1:29:07]: Past September first. [1:29:07, 1:29:08]: We can't. [1:29:08, 1:29:10]: No, I that's about and so [1:29:10, 1:29:19]: What is it? What is it that the chamber? Um my question is, what is it that the that you feel the chamber is able to facilitate that quicker than we can? [1:29:20, 1:29:24]: Oh, I it's it's a matter of the mechanism by which funds have to be dispersed. [1:29:24, 1:29:28]: according to the CARES Act and what we were told over and over and over again. [1:29:28, 1:29:29]: Yeah. [1:29:29, 1:29:39]: is that the funds had to be utilized by September first. In other words, if you wanted to uh if you if you ordered something last month, [1:29:39, 1:29:41]: And it hadn't been received. [1:29:41, 1:29:43]: By September first. [1:29:43, 1:29:48]: That pro that particular item is not reimbursable. [1:29:48, 1:29:52]: They told us that over and over again. It had to be bought. [1:29:52, 1:29:57]: paid for and received by September first. So in this case, [1:29:57, 1:29:58]: What I'm saying is [1:29:58, 1:30:06]: And I see Joseph may want to add to this. He will. The the funds would have been extended to another party. [1:30:07, 1:30:08]: In this case, the chamber. [1:30:09, 1:30:13]: Which we would then be okay, the city of Stockbridge would have expended their funds. [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: By September first. [1:30:15, 1:30:22]: put it in the hands of the chamber um uh in this case, and then our funds would have been accounted for. [1:30:24, 1:30:25]: Okay. [1:30:25, 1:30:45]: Mr. And and what what what I'm simply what I'm simply facilitating for you is that one that you've now expended that portion and and and you're in compliance with that grant. And two, we have the online portal set up with all the compliance with [1:30:45, 1:31:01]: with what's eligible and what's not. And it's already created, it's already, you know, it's a simple act to turn it on and to put in their city of Stockbridge and make that all for for for city specific versus the Henry County one that we did for them. Um I you know I I it doesn't [1:31:03, 1:31:11]: We want to work with whomever wants to help business in c in the county. And so we're happy to work with you and and Mr. Knighton in that. Um [1:31:12, 1:31:32]: And and we can we can do this however. Um, you know, we can take those, we can look at them and review them, make that recommendation back to whomever that stockbridge uh committee is, whether it's the the council or staff or volunteers or whatever, and and and then you all approve whoever you decide to approve and then it comes back. [1:31:32, 1:31:35]: us and then we just cut the check. That whole time. [1:31:35, 1:31:46]: that will be in the hands of our accountants. So it's not, it's it's completely separated. It is a it is a restricted fund. It's not something I can go into and decide, okay, now we've got [1:31:46, 1:31:48]: Екстазен далар. [1:31:48, 1:32:00]: Um, I'm gonna use it for whatever because it's it's restricted to the Stockbridge Cares Grant Act. So it's not anything I really have control over. It's just my way of trying to help you all help the business community. [1:32:00, 1:32:17]: Follow Ms. Knightwood. Mr. Henning, uh uh a city does not I'm excuse me, a business does not necessarily have to be a member of the chamber to go through this process with you. Okay, good deal. Got it. All right. Um Mr. Blount, go ahead. No, it thank you, Mayor. I apologize. I should have said that the [1:32:20, 1:32:28]: Then in that case, then the list of of uh businesses that the chamber would be facilitating with the funds would be the list that we provide. [1:32:28, 1:32:35]: And I I think that we probably need to write but some type of agreement that those that that list of funding that's gonna be provided and through the [1:32:35, 1:32:38]: Portals that the uh chamber has already in place. [1:32:39, 1:32:41]: That those that that that those lists be [1:32:42, 1:32:42]: Um [1:32:43, 1:32:46]: validated to what what we want [1:32:47, 1:32:49]: T you know, that it has to be an agreement. [1:32:50, 1:33:07]: for those businesses to get those funding. And I appreciate the chamber. I appreciate you all uh willing to help uh facilitate that. Uh Mr. Knight, if we could just facilitate what we need to on our end, that that this marriage kind of works and and and get the money uh out in time in a timely fashion to the citizens, uh to the businesses. [1:33:07, 1:33:09]: Ms. Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:33:09, 1:33:15]: Mr. Thomas, I'll yield to Mess Mayor Pro Tem. He had his hand up. Okay, go ahead. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead then. [1:33:16, 1:33:21]: I was gonna make a motion to include those things, but if you had other comments, then I will hold my motion. [1:33:23, 1:33:24]: Ms. Alexander, back to you. [1:33:25, 1:33:36]: I I mean honestly I I'm looking at the same thing, you know, we we we have the list ourselves. I mean, we don't we we don't have eight million dollars like Henry County who decided to do it all on their own. [1:33:37, 1:33:57]: We have four hundred thousand dollars. If you put that four hundred thousand dollars out there and you send a solicitation to you send this information to every business in Stockbridge, it'll be gone within seven days. It's not I mean it's it's not gonna take that long for folks to realize that four hundred thousand dollars is out there and that the money is [1:33:57, 1:34:16]: Is up and about because what's going to have to happen is occupational tax or whoever is going to have to generate the list, they're going to get it over to the chamber while they could generate the list themselves and go ahead and move the process forward. I mean, we have a staff that works in that department already. Why they could do it themselves. [1:34:16, 1:34:17]: Let me [1:34:17, 1:34:19]: Mr. Mayor, go ahead, please. [1:34:19, 1:34:22]: Uh two items I have to make so sure we [1:34:22, 1:34:24]: Everybody's clear about. [1:34:24, 1:34:27]: It's not four hundred thousand, it's one point five million. [1:34:28, 1:34:30]: Okay. [1:34:30, 1:34:39]: The ballot thousand for September thirtieth, right? No sir, no sir, no sir. It is one point five million by September first. [1:34:40, 1:34:40]: Okay. [1:34:41, 1:34:42]: It's it's all of it. [1:34:42, 1:34:53]: That was that was the issue before and the confusion that was going around the state. It's 1.5 million total by September 1st. Second thing is. [1:34:53, 1:35:01]: Again, if we did it in house, is still in our hands. We would not have expended the money. Therefore, we would have to forfeit. [1:35:02, 1:35:06]: Anything that has not been allocated, we would have to forfeit that money back. [1:35:07, 1:35:13]: So I just I want to be very, very clear about those two issues. And that's coming down from the state. [1:35:13, 1:35:23]: directly to us. I asked specific questions on that webinar yesterday. I said if we use the a a chamber of commerce, if we allocated this amount of money [1:35:23, 1:35:37]: By September 1st, would that meet the criteria that has been set? They said yes, because the monies would have been out of our hands expended for the purpose of COVID-related items for businesses. [1:35:38, 1:35:46]: Anything that we do not expend, we have not spent, we have not bought, we have not actually received, according to what they said. [1:35:47, 1:35:49]: He would have to forfeit those funds. [1:35:51, 1:35:52]: Hey, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:35:52, 1:36:01]: Uh and and that that kind of clears some things up with us and like I said, and I appreciate the chamber doing it because um what what you made clear is that [1:36:01, 1:36:05]: We'll still be in control of the money, but we would we will be able to use all the money. [1:36:06, 1:36:18]: beyond September the first, because I look at the situation with the City of Atlanta losing over four million dollar grant that they're fighting back now to try to get back a hold of that it that they should have should have spent it. So right now the chamber saying they'll help. [1:36:19, 1:36:29]: We'll have the money all the money in the chamber hands and we can go beyond September the first. And then all the businesses that need that money that apply for it can get it. So I I'm I'm okay with that. [1:36:29, 1:36:30]: This can't do it. [1:36:30, 1:36:32]: I'm sorry, please. No, no. [1:36:32, 1:36:34]: Okay, thank you. [1:36:34, 1:36:34]: Lord. [1:36:35, 1:36:49]: Um I I agree with Councilman Blount. I also would like to, if you guys don't mind, it sounds like I think that it would make sense. I don't want to run the risk of losing any money, especially when it benefits our citizens and our businesses. [1:36:49, 1:36:50]: Um [1:36:50, 1:36:55]: So long as we, you know, direct staff to come up with some type of categories. [1:36:55, 1:36:56]: Um, you know. [1:36:57, 1:37:01]: In order to rank you know the priorities. [1:37:01, 1:37:05]: Um and I believe the chamber has has done a lot of that already. [1:37:05, 1:37:25]: Um, I would like to thank the chamber for that. And I recommend and ask businesses who are not a part of the chamber chamber to join the chamber. Um we're on the you know, on this topic and subject right now. But being that it's not it that is not one of the ways uh or reasons uh you still can get money. [1:37:25, 1:37:30]: um and it money can be issued to those businesses even if they're not a member. [1:37:30, 1:37:38]: I think that the staff should or or mayor council at at some point should qu quickly [1:37:38, 1:37:42]: get together those categories um and look into, you know [1:37:43, 1:37:45]: prior prioritizing the way we [1:37:46, 1:37:47]: give out funds. [1:37:48, 1:37:48]: Um h [1:37:49, 1:37:53]: Mayor, if you don't mind, I would like oh, everybody got kept comments. I was gonna make a motion. [1:37:54, 1:38:02]: Um just to go ahead and approve this and with those caveats. Actually earlier Mayor Pro Tem said he wanted to make the most. [1:38:03, 1:38:06]: Before we do that, Mr. Knighton, I think you have something else you need to say, sir. [1:38:06, 1:38:26]: I'll I'll hold in comments until I think uh Councilman Alexander and I wanted to hear Councilman Alexander comments and maybe another combination. And then it's all one point five million dollars. Uh the only question I have for Mr. Henning is there any type of financial [1:38:26, 1:38:29]: No. [1:38:30, 1:38:45]: There the the chamber is not charging any administrative fee for this process. We are here to work with you to support the businesses of Stockbridge, whether they're chamber members or not. It's all good for the economy. It's all good for the residents of the county. [1:38:47, 1:38:51]: All right, thank you, sir. Appreciate that. Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. Thank you, sir. I I [1:38:52, 1:39:10]: I think it's pretty clear it's pretty clear for me the way Mr. Hennan and Mr. Nighting explained it. Uh and and if all hearts and minds are really satisfied, I like to move that uh we do the set of Stark Bridge do receive uh these funds. And I think the key though is is in the Stark Bridge committee. [1:39:11, 1:39:11]: Uh [1:39:12, 1:39:28]: depending on we want to have a combination of staff and counsel. I think that's where the work is involved, but I think it's clear the way Mr. Hennin and Mr. Knight explain it. So I move that we accept this and test the uh city manager to come up with some [1:39:28, 1:39:40]: uh suggestion or the council work this out as far as the stock bridge committee, the way uh we disperse uh these funds. So I'd like to move that we accept this and move forward on it. [1:39:40, 1:39:53]: disperse the funds by by utilizing the chamber to assist us with this. Using using the chamber and um the CF Stockbridge create the review committee as to how uh the funds will be uh dispersed. [1:39:53, 1:39:54]: A second. [1:39:54, 1:39:55]: All right. [1:39:55, 1:39:57]: Any further discussion? Um [1:39:57, 1:39:58]: Mr. Knight, go ahead, sir. [1:39:59, 1:40:06]: I I didn't need to ask um if there was an amount that you that the council wanted to apply. [1:40:06, 1:40:09]: Um to these phones because [1:40:11, 1:40:13]: We've got a lot available. [1:40:13, 1:40:21]: Again, uh Councilman Glant uh Gantt, please. Councilman. I'm thinking about three I I've heard on average three thousand. Isn't that been the number? [1:40:22, 1:40:24]: We we had does anyone have any [1:40:24, 1:40:25]: Expertise on that? [1:40:26, 1:40:28]: We we had discussed in terms of [1:40:28, 1:40:33]: And I think you're speaking to uh the cap on on business, how much [1:40:33, 1:40:36]: Yeah, discuss ten ten thousand. [1:40:37, 1:40:45]: But I you know again, that's that's left up to you. What I'm I think what I'm mentioning or addressing is the amount of money that's available. [1:40:46, 1:40:49]: We literally are talking about a million plus dollars. [1:40:51, 1:40:51]: Okay. [1:40:52, 1:40:52]: Yeah. [1:40:53, 1:41:08]: Do you have some other suggestion? I I'm saying are you saying that we have other options with besides the one point five million? I mean what the one point five million goes directly to all the small businesses, or are you saying we divide it up? What is your suggestion as city manager? [1:41:09, 1:41:10]: Well [1:41:11, 1:41:15]: The issue with respect to the amount of funds are available, one point five million are available. [1:41:15, 1:41:22]: In terms of direct expenses that the city has had and likely will account for, it's probably gonna be in about$200,000. [1:41:23, 1:41:25]: So we have a direct expenses that we have spent. [1:41:26, 1:41:42]: on the various items related to COVID-related expenses that we can account for. Okay? Everything that we've masks, hand sanitizer, gloves, dispensers, extra cleaning, teleworking items, everything that we've accounted for. [1:41:43, 1:41:45]: And again, I'd I'd simply mention that. [1:41:46, 1:41:51]: Because we don't have the public safety police and fire when most cities are applying all of this money to their salary. [1:41:52, 1:41:53]: Already since March the first. [1:41:54, 1:41:56]: We obviously can't do that. That's where they're spending their money. [1:41:56, 1:41:59]: We don't have that and so we got this available money. [1:42:00, 1:42:05]: um to be able to either use for direct expenses, which I just explained, is not [1:42:05, 1:42:12]: 200,000 relative speaking to 1.5. And so how else could these monies potentially be utilized? [1:42:12, 1:42:15]: Um to support small businesses in this case. [1:42:15, 1:42:18]: Mr. Henning, go ahead, sir. You got something that you need to add, sir. [1:42:18, 1:42:33]: Thank you, Mayor. Um Mr. Knighton, would it be would you be comfortable if they started with an initial amount of one million or would you need more than that? I because it has to you I guess what we could do is we could always put that back to the city. [1:42:34, 1:42:41]: if it wasn't used for business, you know, if it wasn't used for the small businesses. We just need to get it out of your hands by the first [1:42:41, 1:42:50]: That's correct. And if those monies were not used, say we did not use all of those monies, any of those monies that were not used, we would have to turn back in, and that's fine. [1:42:50, 1:42:52]: Turn back into the state, that's fine. [1:42:52, 1:42:55]: I'm saying because we have to account for everything that goes out. [1:42:55, 1:42:57]: But um uh [1:42:58, 1:43:00]: You know, I'd take direction from the council on that. [1:43:00, 1:43:07]: All right. I'm sorry, so if you said there was two hundred thousand that you've expended, so one point three roughly is still available. [1:43:08, 1:43:09]: That would be correct. [1:43:11, 1:43:25]: Okay, I'm gonna go back to Mr. Ms. uh Gantt, please, because it started with you. Well I I wanted to say he's already clarified it, Mr. Um Henning has. In regards to that, I say we take the money that's already been spent. [1:43:26, 1:43:31]: And make sure that that's covered and any you know, or if we're having one more [1:43:31, 1:43:33]: Oh, we know we're gonna do one future. [1:43:33, 1:43:34]: Um [1:43:34, 1:43:37]: that's up to mayor council, but the remaining balance [1:43:37, 1:43:42]: goes to the chamber to sp to spend for the um small businesses. [1:43:43, 1:43:44]: Councilman Blount, please. [1:43:46, 1:43:46]: Uh [1:43:47, 1:43:49]: I don't see why we couldn't take [1:43:49, 1:43:52]: Seventy five percent of our businesses [1:43:52, 1:43:53]: And then [1:43:54, 1:44:01]: Calculate that money on seventy-five percent of the businesses because the chamber says in their portal they already have something that's gonna determine. [1:44:01, 1:44:03]: If the business is even eligible. [1:44:04, 1:44:24]: So I'm pretty sure that we're not gonna be giving a hundred percent of the businesses, they're not gonna be applying for loans. I don't think a hundred percent of the businesses are. So if we take the money and seventy-five percent, that would determine how much we can give per business. If we take seventy-five percent of the businesses and and and and see what that number comes out to, because some of those are gonna be kicked back probably. [1:44:24, 1:44:28]: [6269.0, 6276.7]: Through what the uh uh um uh chamber already has. So why wouldn't we just take 75% of the business and calculate and see what that comes out to? [1:44:37, 1:44:38]: Mr. Alexander. [1:44:38, 1:44:50]: Uh yes, I mean uh we did I did talk about uh other other ways that the cities was spending the money in terms of uh rental reimbursement and helping people who are struggling. [1:44:51, 1:45:11]: Uh that's one of the categories that the money is being used for. And we're gonna have that problem. I mean, it just announced the other day that Delta was gonna be furloughing 2,000 pilots, and folks are the layoffs are coming. So why don't why can't we put some of the money aside to assist struggle? I know the chamber is dealing with the business. [1:45:11, 1:45:14]: businesses but we should put some money aside to help [1:45:14, 1:45:34]: people in the community who are struggling. As I know, doing the food drive every day there every week, people need help. So we need to reserve some of these funds to help citizens in need and those who are struggling who got unemployed for their unemployment. The six hundred dollars ended for the unemployed and now the [1:45:34, 1:45:52]: These these folks are gonna need some help. Evictions are starting to happen. So could we sit aside a portion of this money to assist um struggling homeowners or uh rental or or uh rental, rentals uh who are struggling, renters who are struggling. [1:45:53, 1:45:56]: Mr. Knight, I know you can answer that question, sir. Okay. [1:45:57, 1:46:02]: Um here's what I'd uh I'll try to answer that question this way. [1:46:02, 1:46:06]: Again, it's it's an issue of the monies having to be [1:46:06, 1:46:10]: having to leave our hands by September first. [1:46:10, 1:46:11]: Now [1:46:11, 1:46:17]: I believe uh this community maybe Statesboro or somewhere down South Georgia. [1:46:17, 1:46:23]: or one or two others, I think has have talked about or have allocated a portion of their funds. [1:46:24, 1:46:26]: to a nonprofit like the United Way. [1:46:27, 1:46:28]: To [1:46:29, 1:46:30]: Провай супорт. [1:46:31, 1:46:35]: uh to people for various things uh similar to what you talked about. [1:46:35, 1:46:38]: But again, it it's a matter for for us. [1:46:39, 1:46:43]: The money having to be transferred or transmitted by September the first. [1:46:45, 1:46:45]: Mr. Blount. [1:46:46, 1:46:58]: Go ahead. Uh I I'm at my I'm actually in agreement with Councilman Alexander. If that's I I see uh uh Mr. Henny from the chambers wanting to speak. Is there an entity that we can train because you look at thirty five [1:46:59, 1:47:09]: Let's just say thirty-five thousand p citizens in the city of Stockbridge, even if we did a thousand dollars a household, that's only thirty-five thousand dollars or one point three million dollars. [1:47:09, 1:47:13]: Um, so Mr. Henning, uh if you have any suggestion or I see you're trying to get in here. [1:47:16, 1:47:18]: No, I think I think we've got [1:47:18, 1:47:27]: at at least in in my head, there's two different conversations we have going. And I think the first one is is Mr. Knighton and Councilwoman Gantt and and and trying to figure out [1:47:28, 1:47:43]: how much the balance of that one point four, one point five, um, whatever that is, that y'all need to get get technically get rid of by the end of the month. And so I think that's the number we're trying to work with. I think I'm okay with [1:47:43, 1:47:55]: If if it is the council's wish and vote that we partner with you for the distribution, then I can work out with Mr. Knighton what it is we want, you know, where we can make [1:47:55, 1:48:07]: where we can put to small business, where we can put to not for profits, where we can put to the community as a whole, whether it's through testing or rep relief or whatever that might be, as long as it falls within [1:48:08, 1:48:21]: those requirements of that CARES Act because that's what we all ultimately have to be careful of is that yes, it honors what that act originally was written for. And so I think the the the the first question is [1:48:21, 1:48:28]: How much money do we need to move and and expend by the end of the month so that you all don't have to give it back? [1:48:28, 1:48:48]: And then from there we can look at, okay, this is the amount of money we have. Let's look at this much for business, this much for not-for-profits, and this much for community support. And I'm happy to have that conversation. I we can still do that. We could we could turn over, you know, if you say 20% of whatever that is we move, you want to go to rental relief, we can turn that over to. [1:48:48, 1:49:01]: to United Way or connecting Henry and they can facilitate that for the residents of Stockbridge. If you don't want us to do that, that's fine. I we just need to make sure that whoever's doing it, we trust them enough that they're going to do the paper trail so that [1:49:01, 1:49:04]: We're all k okay once once all is said and done. [1:49:06, 1:49:08]: All right. Does that sound right, Mr. Knighton? [1:49:08, 1:49:10]: Yes, no, I I yeah. [1:49:11, 1:49:12]: Sounds good to me. [1:49:13, 1:49:28]: So we got 1.3, so a million for um businesses, 300,000 for citizens, or split so we said seventy-five percent, whatever or seventy-five uh seven hundred and fifty thousand for businesses and the remainder for nonprofits. [1:49:30, 1:49:31]: Throwing a number up there. [1:49:32, 1:49:35]: Mr. Bear, Mr. Bear. [1:49:35, 1:49:41]: Since everyone hates lawyers, I'll be the one that that gets hated. Um just a word of caution. [1:49:42, 1:49:43]: Um [1:49:43, 1:49:50]: You know, the this money uh is a windfall for cities like Stockbridge that doesn't have uh uh public safety. [1:49:51, 1:49:52]: Um [1:49:52, 1:49:54]: uh apparatus like [1:49:54, 1:49:57]: Henry County, McDonough, the others. [1:49:57, 1:50:03]: Um the only concern I have though is you take the million dollars or and some change. [1:50:04, 1:50:11]: Um, you as a city are responsible for how that money is ultimately spent. [1:50:11, 1:50:18]: And you're responsible back to through the state to the federal government. And so if there's an issue [1:50:18, 1:50:26]: um with how the money's spent or if there's a problem, then the city is on the hook for that. Not I mean, it's very unlikely that we'll [1:50:26, 1:50:31]: be able to go back and and get money back once it's it's already out there. And so [1:50:32, 1:50:33]: Rather than [1:50:33, 1:50:53]: spending every penny, I would I would caution you and and perhaps do you know some portion, whether it's$500,000 for businesses and and maybe some other amount for uh uh low-income assistance, housing assistance, for instance, for uh folks who can't uh make their uh rental payments. [1:50:53, 1:50:58]: would suggest you limit it in in some capacity and not spin every single nickel. [1:50:59, 1:51:00]: Um then there's there's the [1:51:00, 1:51:06]: outside chance or however unlikely that the governor may relent on this deadline. [1:51:07, 1:51:08]: And give us more time. [1:51:09, 1:51:14]: Um and there may be other city expenditures that you may then find that you wish it. [1:51:14, 1:51:17]: you'd reserve money for. So I'm just trying to [1:51:17, 1:51:18]: To [1:51:18, 1:51:23]: suggest you be cautious and not necessarily spend every single dime [1:51:23, 1:51:29]: even though I'm sure every single dime is needed, but you may find yourself wishing you hadn't done that. [1:51:30, 1:51:40]: Mayor. Uh y yes, uh Miss Moore. Morata, please. Right. I I'm sorry, I just want to weigh in this one time. I know when we talk, I think the issue is out of one point four [1:51:41, 1:51:43]: Are we gonna give one point three to the chamber? [1:51:44, 1:51:46]: And two hundred thousand to the city. [1:51:47, 1:52:07]: To get reimbursed for our expenses. And I thought that was the initial question: how do we spend the 1.4? And I think what Mr. Henning was saying was that if we give them the 1.3, then afterwards the city has time to create a panel based on that panel to decide what the criteria are. [1:52:07, 1:52:27]: Maybe decide at that point in time how much they want to give to the businesses, how much they want to give to nonprofits, we would have met the September 1st deadline and all of those other things in terms of your committee, your cap, all of that could be decided September the 30th or September 15th. [1:52:26, 1:52:43]: But I think the issue was, from my understanding, is tonight, are you going to give the chamber the 1.3, us the$200,000, to let the state know that it's September the 1st, it's out of our coffer, and we're going to get reimbursed the$200,000. [1:52:44, 1:52:50]: Okay, thank you for that explanation. It's and so Mr. Knight, so it's only two hundred thousand. I thought it was a little more than two hundred thousand in the sense that we spent thus far. [1:52:51, 1:53:02]: No, it's it's actually less than that. I think we've we've got some things in the hopper right now. My my thought is the estim by September first, it'll be two hundred thousand. [1:53:02, 1:53:07]: But we've we've expended probably a hundred and twenty, thirty thousand. [1:53:07, 1:53:09]: Uh-huh. Actuals right now. [1:53:09, 1:53:29]: Um and and I'm saying two hundred thousand would probably be the most that we would expect direct cost. Whether or not we may have to revisit this or not. [1:53:29, 1:53:39]: wasn't an allocation in terms of how much um for businesses, how much for other entities, or how much to reserve for the city. [1:53:39, 1:53:42]: Okay, and that's what you have, right, uh clerk? [1:53:42, 1:53:44]: Is that correct for what you have written down? [1:53:44, 1:53:46]: Make sure it's correct. She's got it correctly. [1:53:47, 1:53:50]: Sorry to put you on the spot there. I gotta ask the question. [1:53:54, 1:53:57]: Muted. Muted. You muted. [1:53:59, 1:54:00]: You're still muted. [1:54:01, 1:54:02]: You still muted, Vanessa? [1:54:03, 1:54:16]: There we go. Go ahead now. Okay. The motion that I have by um Mayor Pro Tem Thomas and Councilwoman Gantt is that you're going to utilize the chamber and also establish a stock bridge review committee. [1:54:17, 1:54:18]: That's what the motion was. [1:54:19, 1:54:20]: Okay. [1:54:21, 1:54:21]: So [1:54:22, 1:54:25]: If you must be correct, but as um [1:54:26, 1:54:34]: I think Mr. William indicated that we did not talk about the uh the portions. Or maybe Mrs. Moore talked about that, but the portions. [1:54:35, 1:54:40]: Okay. That's correct. That can be decided later. That need to be in the motion. [1:54:41, 1:54:45]: Okay, doesn't have to uh it's okay, one second. Ms. Gantt, you had your hand up earlier. [1:54:46, 1:54:49]: I was gonna ask um Mr Williams [1:54:50, 1:54:58]: Can you give us the appropriate way of handling this motion by making sure that we're just we've covered the basis that we need to cover minus [1:54:59, 1:55:06]: The actual percentage allocation just to make sure that we have a directive where we are going to give the chamber the money. [1:55:07, 1:55:09]: And then we are going to [1:55:09, 1:55:12]: Have a uh you know, a panel. [1:55:12, 1:55:22]: or or whatever to determine how we want to allocate funds minus the two hundred thousand that we are setting aside for money that we've already spent. [1:55:23, 1:55:27]: L let me let me offer a couple of things. One, um I c I can state [1:55:28, 1:55:30]: I recommend at least two motions. [1:55:31, 1:55:33]: Um after the the pending one is withdrawn. [1:55:34, 1:55:48]: The first motion would just be to adopt the CARES Act resolution that sets the stage for accepting the funds in the first place. That would be one standalone motion and a resolution has been prepared to that effect. [1:55:48, 1:55:53]: The second motion would be to authorize an agreement. [1:55:53, 1:55:58]: With the uh Henry County Chamber of Commerce to provide for them to. [1:55:59, 1:56:10]: uh to implement a program for small business relief um and or other forms of covet nineteen relief to the residents of the city of stockbridge. [1:56:11, 1:56:31]: Then in the agreement that we'll work on, we'll set forth the terms under which businesses have eligibility to apply for and receive funds, and then the terms under which they provide funds to suitable uh third parties that provide COVID-19 relief. [1:56:31, 1:56:36]: to the residents, whether it's uh rental relief or whatever, all that will be in the agreement. [1:56:37, 1:56:41]: Um that will also provide for some level of review by [1:56:41, 1:57:01]: uh the city for to ensure that the funds are properly expended. That can be the the committee that that uh has been referenced. So I believe again one resolution to or one motion to approve the resolution and a second motion to approve an agreement with the Henry County Chamber along the lines that I just referenced. [1:57:01, 1:57:01]: Yeah. [1:57:02, 1:57:04]: Okay, on that note to do that. [1:57:04, 1:57:08]: Miraple Tim, uh you would have to withdraw your motion and and reestablish a new one, sir. [1:57:09, 1:57:14]: Okay, uh Mr. Mayor and Council, I withdraw the first motion. [1:57:15, 1:57:17]: And I come forward with the new motion. [1:57:18, 1:57:25]: to uh actually for the city of stockbridge to receive the uh covet nineteen funding. [1:57:25, 1:57:27]: Secondly. [1:57:27, 1:57:31]: I like to move to uh set the relief requirements. [1:57:32, 1:57:33]: Um with that [1:57:34, 1:57:46]: And I think it sounds like Mr. Williams outta talked about a third or a no two. It's only two. Does that cover the two? The first one the first motion to receive. [1:57:48, 1:58:00]: No, uh Mr. Mayor, if I could recommend we just uh a motion would be in order to approve the CARES Act funding resolution. Just that alone. Yes, I understand. I think that's what I said in uh the first motion is to [1:58:01, 1:58:04]: receive the care covet nineteen cares act [1:58:04, 1:58:06]: Finding number one. [1:58:06, 1:58:07]: A second. [1:58:08, 1:58:10]: Okay. Yeah, now we got a boat. [1:58:10, 1:58:12]: Yes. Okay. Okay. [1:58:12, 1:58:15]: All all in favor of that motion, please indicate. [1:58:15, 1:58:21]: All right. All right. Thank you. That deals with the resolution. There you go. All right. Thank you. All right. [1:58:22, 1:58:25]: If you want to do another one, go right ahead. If we can get this right here. [1:58:26, 1:58:31]: Okay, secondly I move that we set the relief requirements. [1:58:32, 1:58:34]: I'm hoping that is the correct term, uh, Mr. William. [1:58:35, 1:58:36]: As to um [1:58:37, 1:58:39]: how the funds will be dispersed. [1:58:41, 1:58:48]: Uh my my suggestion, co uh Mayor Pro Tem, is is uh the motion be awarded to authorize an agreement. [1:58:48, 1:58:50]: with the Henry County Chamber. [1:58:51, 1:58:54]: to implement our covet nineteen relief. [1:58:54, 1:58:57]: program for businesses and residents. [1:58:58, 1:59:03]: Okay, so uh Mr. Mayor and Council, the second motion is to authorize [1:59:04, 1:59:05]: The chamber. [1:59:06, 1:59:07]: Uh to [1:59:08, 1:59:12]: facilitate uh the the funds for the city of stockbridge. [1:59:13, 1:59:16]: With authorized with authorized agreement in process there. [1:59:17, 1:59:20]: For businesses and resonates. Right. [1:59:20, 1:59:22]: So government agreement. Second. [1:59:25, 1:59:26]: Okay. [1:59:26, 1:59:32]: We made it and seconded by uh Alexander committee, a committee uh motion. [1:59:33, 1:59:33]: Right. [1:59:34, 1:59:36]: All the favorite things in the cake. [1:59:37, 1:59:37]: Okay. [1:59:38, 1:59:45]: I have a qu I have a question real quick for Mr. Okay, all right. You got a question. So is Mr. Knighton. Go ahead. Go, what's your question, sir? Mr. K henney, can you hear me? [1:59:46, 1:59:46]: Yes. [1:59:47, 1:59:50]: Uh when we talk about businesses [1:59:50, 1:59:57]: Uh are nonprofits able with the CARES Act are they able to also get those funds? [1:59:57, 2:00:17]: They are and we would just have to figure out whether, you know, what those requirements would be um, you know, as we set those up. Uh yes. And and if you want them included, we will make sure they're included. The conversation that Mr. Knighton and I had were um small business. So it's just something else that we can add to that piece. All right, thanks. [2:00:17, 2:00:20]: Mm-hmm. Ms. Nine, go ahead, sir. [2:00:22, 2:00:28]: Yes, uh Mr. Mayor and Council. I I I don't know if I missed it, I apologize. Was there an amount determined? [2:00:29, 2:00:29]: No. [2:00:31, 2:00:33]: Uh no, actually it was not. It wasn't stated. [2:00:34, 2:00:39]: So I I I I need an amount because we have to make this [2:00:40, 2:00:45]: Um we have to provide this through the state portal of what we're actually expending. [2:00:46, 2:00:46]: But [2:00:47, 2:00:59]: Mayor, Mayor, if you will. Mr. Knighton, I thought that we have because of the two hundred thousand that was coming back to the city, I thought we all agreed it was one point three million to the chamber and we determine how it's gonna be dispersed. [2:00:59, 2:01:02]: That's fine. That and that if that's the clarification D, that's fine. [2:01:03, 2:01:04]: I just want to be clear. [2:01:04, 2:01:05]: Okay. [2:01:06, 2:01:07]: Any other questions? [2:01:09, 2:01:11]: All right. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:01:14, 2:01:15]: Ah, it's unanimous. [2:01:15, 2:01:16]: And I got it. [2:01:16, 2:01:19]: I certainly hope that uh Vanessa has this motion down correctly. [2:01:20, 2:01:22]: I d I d I do. [2:01:22, 2:01:24]: And and it's on tape, so that's okay. [2:01:25, 2:01:26]: Thank you very much, ma'am. [2:01:26, 2:01:27]: All right. [2:01:27, 2:01:36]: Mr. Henney, thank you very much, sir, for your service and appreciate you being here. You're more than welcome to stay if you like. If not, have a good evening and I know I'll be talking to you in the morning. [2:01:39, 2:01:50]: Thank you. I will see you in the morning. It's my pleasure. Thank you all, uh, mayor and and and city council. And I look forward to working with you all to help those businesses and the residents of Stockbridge. So thank you very much and have a great evening. [2:01:50, 2:01:51]: Thank you. Bye bye. [2:01:52, 2:02:03]: Okay. Uh council consideration to rescind re resolution R seventeen dash eight eight nine information policy on respect to certain economic development matters. Mr. Williams, please. [2:02:04, 2:02:14]: So this is uh at the request of a a number of council members to um rescind a policy which was adopted uh [2:02:15, 2:02:28]: a few years ago related to economic development information um and pending uh applications, things of that sort. Um so the resolution just rescinds the prior [2:02:28, 2:02:33]: uh resolution and and going forward we would [2:02:33, 2:02:35]: There would be no specific policy. [2:02:36, 2:02:37]: Um now [2:02:38, 2:02:41]: A couple things to that point. Number one. [2:02:42, 2:02:47]: The the the previous rationale or the rationale for the previous policy, I should say. [2:02:47, 2:02:53]: was that y uh economic development um can be a sensitive issue and [2:02:53, 2:02:58]: Uh we want to be careful to protect uh information um that's [2:02:58, 2:03:15]: um presented to the city in order to preserve the best possible chance to land various the business um developments, things of that sort. And so the the it was recommended at that time that the council adopt a [2:03:15, 2:03:17]: a policy that limited [2:03:17, 2:03:20]: The uh flow of information from staff. [2:03:21, 2:03:26]: Um to council members to only to that which necessary whenever [2:03:26, 2:03:29]: Um matters came before the mayor and council. [2:03:29, 2:03:34]: Um that was adopted and and that's been the case ever since. Um [2:03:34, 2:03:44]: And so in rescinding that is is totally within your purview as a mayor and counsel. You do not have to keep that. There's there's no magic to it and [2:03:44, 2:03:47]: I've stated before in various um uh [2:03:48, 2:04:00]: um circumstances that um the mayor and council provide oversight to city operations and in in that capacity you are entitled to every [2:04:00, 2:04:08]: uh stitch of information that is uh available to the staff on an equal basis. And that is your right. And so [2:04:09, 2:04:10]: You know [2:04:10, 2:04:13]: going forward, I I have no um [2:04:13, 2:04:19]: uh comfort in ever advising the staff to withhold information from the mayor and council. [2:04:19, 2:04:24]: But if that's the policy that the council d dictates, then so be it. But [2:04:24, 2:04:40]: Um what you again, what you have presented is is a uh resolution that rescinds the previous policy and then we go forward sort of along the lines I just indicated, whereas you're entitled to information um whenever uh it is requested. [2:04:41, 2:04:43]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Alezana, go ahead. [2:04:44, 2:04:54]: Yeah, I think uh what has really happened though, uh the some unintended consequences of that particular policy was we have developments popping up all over town. [2:04:55, 2:04:59]: And we have citizens that ask us about it and we're like, What do you mean? [2:05:00, 2:05:01]: I didn't know about that. [2:05:02, 2:05:06]: You know, like the town homes that just you know came up on campground road. [2:05:07, 2:05:13]: You know, that didn't come to us because the zoning was already in place. We found out about Higler Corporation, maybe like [2:05:15, 2:05:32]: uh a few days before the groundbreaking was actually to occur. It is incumbent upon us to be aware of what is going on, but to you know, to protect the information if we understand that the situation is very sensitive and negotiations are ongoing. [2:05:32, 2:05:52]: But it is pertinent that council members understand what is coming to the city. You know, in our Main Street discussion that we were having a couple of weeks ago, uh, it was uh uh let we found out that there were some townhome communities coming uh through the pipeline on East Atlanta Road. I had no idea. [2:05:52, 2:05:57]: Да давай с івент з пой. [2:05:57, 2:05:58]: And [2:05:58, 2:06:03]: Now they're moving along through the process. As we go back through it, I think [2:06:04, 2:06:24]: Uh maybe the Hudson Ridge situation, if we had had more information about it before it came out and been able to get actively involved with it, might have had a different outcome. I don't know. But um I I personally don't want to walk around the city blinded every time something comes up and somebody asks me what it is, and I [2:06:24, 2:06:28]: I don't know what it is and I have no information on it, then I gotta go to staff. [2:06:28, 2:06:31]: We understand how sensitive information can be. [2:06:31, 2:06:41]: But at the same time, I don't wanna walk around blind, not knowing uh what new developments are coming to the city. So I think it's pretty straightforward in that that aspect. [2:06:42, 2:06:45]: Mr Mayor, may I speak? Uh yes, go right ahead, uh Miss Moore. [2:06:46, 2:06:51]: Right. Um I think there's a difference for education and purpose between economic development [2:06:51, 2:06:53]: information and development information. [2:06:54, 2:06:57]: Oh, we don't deal with economic development. My office doesn't. [2:06:58, 2:07:11]: We deal with development information. So I want to make sure that uh what Mayor and Council understands on the development side, there are legal requirements that basically says until we have an application. [2:07:12, 2:07:15]: Only then is it a project. [2:07:15, 2:07:24]: So we can have there's a 78 acre track and I know once a month somebody will call and say, we would like to develop this, right? [2:07:24, 2:07:44]: What we do in terms of legal requirements on the development side is that once an application is made, and maybe Marion Council is not aware of this link, I will send it out tonight. But every time an application is made, that information is posted for Marion Council and the public. So Councilman Alexander, if you had gone to our website. [2:07:44, 2:08:04]: website, the information on the townhomes would have been available. And again, that is once we have a viable project. Everything else is just discussions, right? But once somebody comes in and says, you know what, we are now filing an application and it's now official, then we're in [2:08:04, 2:08:24]: into the permitting process. Now what we can do is that we can everybody that wants to talk to us about a possibility, we have no problem sending you an email to say today we talked to four or five companies who may be interested in these parcels. [2:08:24, 2:08:37]: okay with sharing that information. It's just that most of the times they don't result into anything that's real. What is real is once legally they file an application, we then have a project and then we're able to move forward. [2:08:39, 2:08:40]: Councilwoman Gann, go ahead, please. [2:08:44, 2:08:44]: Yeah. [2:08:46, 2:08:51]: Just muted. You're you're you m you muted. You muted yourself. There you go. It's more uh uh [2:08:51, 2:08:55]: Uh thank you, but I beg to differ on a couple of things. Um [2:08:56, 2:09:02]: If once the application has been filled or or submitted, I just ask that [2:09:03, 2:09:11]: your staff or someone send us a notice or or send us a letter. I don't know if council, mayor council, we can please go to the link at all times, but [2:09:12, 2:09:26]: where us to be surprised about certain projects that are up and running and permits have been pulled. Um that I don't want. I I think that we should all be put on notice as soon as we know that the project is moving forward. [2:09:26, 2:09:27]: Um [2:09:28, 2:09:36]: I've taken a lot of economic development classes, and I know for a fact that economic development directors and departments. [2:09:37, 2:09:43]: Don't want their mayors and councils knowing about potential projects that [2:09:44, 2:09:45]: Have not [2:09:45, 2:09:47]: Come into fruit fruit fruit. [2:09:48, 2:09:51]: have not come into place where they are actually [2:09:52, 2:10:02]: an application has been filed or permit has been filed. If they're going around searching or they're looking for particular areas, we might be one of their top three spots. [2:10:04, 2:10:07]: Economic development directors and development authorities. [2:10:07, 2:10:10]: Don't go reaching out saying, hey. [2:10:10, 2:10:14]: Amazon's looking at you right now. They just don't and there's a reason for that. [2:10:15, 2:10:15]: Um [2:10:16, 2:10:17]: Those companies pull back. [2:10:18, 2:10:21]: For those very reasons when things get out. [2:10:22, 2:10:25]: such as popular restaurants and they're not really ready to [2:10:25, 2:10:26]: Be there. [2:10:27, 2:10:35]: And if they don't, then they they get up and walk because, you know, someone put out information way prematurely without them even having a permit. [2:10:36, 2:10:36]: Um [2:10:37, 2:10:37]: And so [2:10:38, 2:10:42]: It's a little different. I think that we should [2:10:42, 2:10:44]: Get information. [2:10:44, 2:10:58]: when an application has been filed and permits are being pulled and people are ready to go. I think we should add that as to our our normal monthly routine of updates and reports of new businesses coming in and or or what's going on here in the city. [2:10:59, 2:11:02]: But when it comes to people shopping around, potential [2:11:03, 2:11:07]: developers and retail and stores and entertainment. [2:11:08, 2:11:12]: Um and they haven't concretely said this is what we're gonna do. [2:11:12, 2:11:23]: You can go ask anybody, go to the Georgia Department of Economic Development, go speak to any executive director, go speak to any professor. They're gonna tell you that mayor and council members. [2:11:24, 2:11:25]: Don't know. [2:11:26, 2:11:27]: They don't know that part up front. [2:11:27, 2:11:31]: So those are the and if they do, it's bec and the reason why is because [2:11:32, 2:11:37]: Of the potential of spreading and people reaching out when that's not what [2:11:37, 2:11:40]: That's not the way um economic development is set up. [2:11:41, 2:12:01]: And what I can do, Mayor Ford, is like I say, uh so that you won't have to go to the link, uh, I will in the quarterly reports that we do submit to the clerk's office, we do actually provide all that update information. But what I can do is that the frequency upon which we actually issue permits is to send you that up that [2:12:01, 2:12:21]: Because at that point in time, once somebody has filed, it is actually a real project. And I cannot tell you how many calls you know I get a day, and it'll be on the same track of land, and the owner is shopping. And so he has different builders calling us about the same piece of land, but nobody has decided to move, it's just the skill. [2:12:21, 2:12:41]: And so Councilman Alexander, any information that's pertinent that we can provide to you, I can definitely keep you abreast of everything active. If you just want information in terms of how many people we talk to a day, in terms of possibilities, we can share that. It's just that most of those don't actually come to fruition. [2:12:41, 2:12:41]: Sure. [2:12:41, 2:12:46]: So what is real is what we post in terms of what we've actually permitted. [2:12:47, 2:12:53]: Okay. I would think whatever's real is what you pose will probably be fine. But all right, we'll see how things shake out. Mayor Pro Ten Thomas, please. [2:12:55, 2:12:57]: You're you're muted, sir. [2:12:58, 2:13:00]: Uh there you go. You're good. [2:13:00, 2:13:03]: Okay, I I wanted to ask uh Councilwoman Gantt. [2:13:04, 2:13:07]: Uh as far as the resolution, are you suggesting that [2:13:07, 2:13:12]: Uh for his language once it is permitted. [2:13:12, 2:13:16]: Then this information can be shared. Is that s what you are suggesting? [2:13:18, 2:13:24]: Yes. Once it's app once the application has been submitted or in in [2:13:24, 2:13:28]: permits have been pulled once we know an actual project is taking place. [2:13:28, 2:13:31]: I just I I know I've been there. [2:13:31, 2:13:32]: Um [2:13:32, 2:13:34]: And I've represented companies. [2:13:35, 2:13:36]: And I know. [2:13:36, 2:13:38]: The detriment [2:13:38, 2:13:39]: Or the pull away. [2:13:40, 2:13:41]: We [2:13:41, 2:13:43]: information gets out too soon. [2:13:45, 2:13:47]: Well i m Mr. Mayor. [2:13:47, 2:13:52]: Yes, sir. And only reason I asked that question, so just going back to the written resolution. [2:13:52, 2:14:02]: uh if everyone would agree that this should be the language, then I think we can just cut to the chase and just include that verbiage uh in the resolution. [2:14:04, 2:14:06]: All right. Well sounds fine with me, but uh [2:14:07, 2:14:08]: And the new [2:14:09, 2:14:18]: You would have to make a motion in that eff uh effect. I was gonna ask uh Mrs. Gantt if if she wanted to um state the motion with with the verbiage, with the correct verbiage. [2:14:18, 2:14:19]: Yes. [2:14:20, 2:14:23]: I would like to make a motion that we amend the resolution. [2:14:24, 2:14:25]: To read that we [2:14:26, 2:14:30]: Allow mayor and council to receive information once an application. [2:14:31, 2:14:33]: It was any application [2:14:34, 2:14:39]: And and or um permits have been pulled. [2:14:40, 2:14:42]: Okay. So a second to that. [2:14:43, 2:14:44]: Is there a second? [2:14:45, 2:14:48]: Councilman Blount seconds that. Okay. Any further discussion? [2:14:49, 2:14:49]: Yes. [2:14:50, 2:14:50]: Oh, go ahead. [2:14:51, 2:15:02]: Uh as a council member I'm entitled to every last piece of information, just like the city attorney stated. It is re I it is it is I I I don't know what [2:15:02, 2:15:12]: uh situation. No Amazon is never gonna come to anybody's town where the mayor and city council don't know. It's just not gonna happen. That's that's not go ever going to happen. [2:15:13, 2:15:21]: The city of Atlanta is not gonna get and the council at the Felician Moore don't know and Keisha Lance Bottoms don't know. That will never happen. [2:15:21, 2:15:24]: Uh when businesses look [2:15:24, 2:15:34]: There's a big tenant getting ready to come to Henry County right now. Permits ain't been sound, but they putting the information out. I was on a town I was on a uh Zoom call. [2:15:34, 2:15:54]: Where they're sharing that information freely because they understand, okay, what everybody in the room in the Zoom call understood what that meant. And everybody knows not to leave that meeting to go talk about it. But let me tell you, no council operates. [2:15:54, 2:15:55]: In the dark. [2:15:56, 2:16:04]: When these projects are moving forward, like I drove by the townhomes and the ground clearing is coming and communities asking you about it, then I [2:16:04, 2:16:12]: I asked the staff for the renderings of it to share with the community, you know, all the trees are already knocked down next to the magnolias. [2:16:12, 2:16:25]: And they're looking at us like, why did y'all allow them to knock down all the trees? Well, I didn't know anything about it. The development was actually moving forward at this point and the ground clearing had actually been uh, you know, keyed up. [2:16:25, 2:16:30]: But make no mistake, that's what executive session is for. [2:16:30, 2:16:41]: When these projects come and economic development is touring the town with them, they bring that to executive session. That information is confidential. You don't discuss it. [2:16:41, 2:16:49]: I don't want to operate in the dark ever on any project. The citizens elected me to have the information. [2:16:49, 2:17:05]: available to make my decisions on everything and to the letter of the law, I want to have access to every last bit of it because I'm entitled to it. And not only that, okay, when the information, when somebody actually contacts [2:17:06, 2:17:06]: The staff [2:17:07, 2:17:17]: Or they send them an email or whatever. That's actually available through open records. It's already available. We just would have we just shouldn't have to request it. [2:17:18, 2:17:24]: as council members, we should already be privy to it in everything that we do. [2:17:24, 2:17:31]: This policy was ill-advised in the first place, and we need to have access to every piece of information. [2:17:32, 2:17:36]: Going forward, it's pretty simple. We need to have the access to that information. [2:17:36, 2:17:37]: And initially [2:17:38, 2:17:41]: That was our I thought that was already how it was written. [2:17:41, 2:17:51]: how the resol original resolution was was written was that we were supposed to be given the information as permitted. That's no change at all. That's what it's already stating. [2:17:52, 2:17:53]: It already says that. [2:17:54, 2:17:59]: Mr. Mayor. Okay. Well stand by uh several of you have had your hands, so let me take in order. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [2:17:59, 2:18:04]: Thank you. Um, Councilman Alexander, I understand your concerns. [2:18:04, 2:18:05]: But again. [2:18:06, 2:18:08]: Some of the examples I used are [2:18:08, 2:18:11]: And some of the things I'm I'm speaking of is [2:18:12, 2:18:15]: Prematurely when a person or a company [2:18:15, 2:18:20]: When a company is out scouting different locations. [2:18:20, 2:18:36]: Um those examples that you gave are when the company has pretty much made up their mind. That's when the economic that if they need to call on someone, the mayor, to come and meet with the group, or if they decide to speak to that economic development director or that community. [2:18:37, 2:18:37]: Um [2:18:38, 2:18:39]: a development director. [2:18:39, 2:18:59]: That's what they will do at that point in time when they're close and narrowed in. I'm saying I don't want us to not know about projects that are getting approved. By all means, we should know when a townhome development is going to be built on Campground Road. We should know those things, especially if they're in the city limits, if they've applied. [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: Blood. [2:19:00, 2:19:20]: And if they have been if they've applied for a um, you know, if they've applied already and they're also seeking their permits. My concern is the scouting of these companies before they've made a decision or really spoken to, you know, anyone or have haven't made. [2:19:20, 2:19:22]: Made that decision. [2:19:22, 2:19:31]: Well you can scare them off. You know, people reach out. We've had council members to call, you know, hotel industries. We've had people to contact [2:19:31, 2:19:35]: mm restaurants hearing that they may come in town and then [2:19:35, 2:19:36]: It pushes them back. [2:19:37, 2:19:41]: That's not the way that the economic development works is what I'm saying. [2:19:42, 2:19:44]: If it's not already [2:19:45, 2:19:56]: concrete or if it's not something that they've actually applied had an application for and know that they've purchased this land they're gonna build. They're just out scouting other cities. [2:19:56, 2:19:57]: Then [2:19:58, 2:20:00]: It's not right for us to know about. [2:20:02, 2:20:02]: Right. [2:20:02, 2:20:14]: Member Pro Tem Thomas. I'm I'm I'm trying to weigh in on the merit of Mr. Alexander's opposition. I know Mrs. Gantt said once it's permitted. [2:20:14, 2:20:18]: Uh I'm trying to see, uh Mr. Alexander what is his [2:20:18, 2:20:21]: uh opposition to once it's permitted. [2:20:22, 2:20:23]: Um [2:20:23, 2:20:24]: Yeah. [2:20:25, 2:20:28]: So Mr. Alexander, explain that a little bit more because [2:20:29, 2:20:35]: I'm trying to see what difference in well hold on. I'm trying to see the difference in when something is permitted. [2:20:36, 2:20:40]: versus it's not being permitted and some companies just [2:20:41, 2:20:43]: You know, just out scouting, looking. [2:20:43, 2:20:47]: doing their research, you know, so forth and so on. So I'm just trying to see [2:20:48, 2:20:51]: Basically what what is the opposition to once it's been permitted? [2:20:51, 2:21:01]: There is no opposition to once is being permitted. That's when we get the official rendering and we get it. But when people are interested in your city, you should know that. [2:21:01, 2:21:05]: You as a council member should know that as well as the staff. [2:21:05, 2:21:25]: The staff executes the policies that we give them. The representative, trust me, no one was coming to Atlanta without Cassine Reed or Keisha Lance Bottom knowing or Felicia Moore knowing. Not a soul, period. Oh. As this council member uh uh we're just uh as the council, I'm not saying [2:21:25, 2:21:45]: That um what I'm saying to them is that, okay, yeah, update us of some we should know what it what the interest level is in stock read. We should understand that. And how do we know that? The council d they let us know what who has who has inquired about a particular parcel or a particular interest in [2:21:45, 2:21:54]: the city, we should know that. Now it's up to us not to go out and blurt that into the entire world of understanding what is confidential and what is not. [2:21:55, 2:22:02]: Well that mister Mr. Mayor. See that that's the point where I'm trying to get to. It sounds like [2:22:02, 2:22:06]: If if if a company called Mrs. Moore [2:22:06, 2:22:15]: And just in inquire about something, you're saying then Ms. Moore then needs to share this with counsel that someone just placed a call to her office. [2:22:16, 2:22:26]: No, what I'm saying to you is that we know like uh as he said, when someone's out scouting a particular property, if Amazon come to town, we wanna know Amazon looking. [2:22:26, 2:22:30]: We don't wanna have to wait till Amazon files a permit. We wanna know they're looking. [2:22:30, 2:22:50]: If big time players are interested in coming to town, we should know that. We should be fully abreast of it and we should actually at some point we have to be involved in the process because they're gonna wanna meet us before they sign the documents. They're gonna want to talk to the governing body to make sure that we got the buy-in before. [2:22:50, 2:23:00]: they sign on the dotted line. Mr. Mayor. I uh the citizens elected me and you. They didn't elect the staff. They don't I don't work for them. They work for us. Mr. Mayor. [2:23:02, 2:23:22]: I'm just trying to follow up. Uh Mr. Alexander, I don't really want you to get too long-winded, but I'm I'm just trying to get to a point here where I can understand your side of this. Now, as I gave an example, if Amazon just give Mrs. Moore a call as the uh community development director, are you saying then that because she received [2:23:22, 2:23:23]: Yeah. [2:23:24, 2:23:27]: on inquiry that she should share this with the council. [2:23:27, 2:23:46]: No, I'm saying if Amazon came to town and they start looking at particular parcels, that is a no that's a different step. A phone call, an initial phone call, no. But if somebody is in like there's a lot of stuff apparently going on at Johtoco. Does any of any anybody sitting here know what's going on at Johtoco? No. [2:23:47, 2:24:07]: But in the end or when we should know whether they signed a letter of cut uh of intent or whatever they've done, we should know that there's interest. I'd like to know what the interest level is at Jodico. There are no permits over there. I don't know. Maybe there are permits. I don't know that. But I would like to know what the interest level is. Not necessarily the [2:24:07, 2:24:16]: phone call, but when somebody comes to town, they want to scout a property or a particular parcel or there's a big name, a developer wanna come that we should know that. [2:24:16, 2:24:17]: Before the permit. [2:24:17, 2:24:24]: Mr. Mayor, this is my last question. So I'm I'm still going back to the to the point though, Mr. Alexander, is that [2:24:24, 2:24:26]: If Mrs. Moore does not know [2:24:27, 2:24:30]: that folks are scouting or come to scouting. [2:24:30, 2:24:39]: Then how can she actually share that? That's really not keep asking if she knows. If staff knows. [2:24:39, 2:24:42]: Are you saying then then the council should know? [2:24:42, 2:24:54]: Right. If the staff if the company contacted staff and they want to tour this town, they know that. And they made that contact with staff. They're here touring the town. [2:24:54, 2:25:01]: Yes, we should know that. Then staff should inform the council. Yes. That's the point I was trying to get to. Right. [2:25:01, 2:25:02]: Right. [2:25:02, 2:25:03]: Ms. Lamore, please. [2:25:04, 2:25:08]: Okay, so just understand the difference between economic development and community development. [2:25:09, 2:25:10]: We don't tour. [2:25:10, 2:25:13]: We actually uh give permission to build. [2:25:14, 2:25:22]: And so um if if Amazon was coming, they wouldn't call me. They would call me once they purchased the land. [2:25:22, 2:25:30]: They've identified it and they're coming in and saying, guys, we've got the 78 acres. We now want to build. [2:25:30, 2:25:31]: This here. [2:25:31, 2:25:41]: That's how we know. And so that's when it becomes live for us. So to give you an example, there's a phase three of Brentwood subdivision that's [2:25:45, 2:25:46]: Uh oh. [2:25:46, 2:25:47]: Positive. [2:25:47, 2:25:49]: She froze. [2:25:49, 2:25:59]: Yeah, I would just say when she comes back is that this is exactly you know what I'm talking about. I want to make sure that she's and us are on the on the muted, Camilla. [2:26:01, 2:26:05]: Muted. So what we have happen what we have happening is that the [2:26:05, 2:26:16]: owner of the parcel has shot. And so we have gotten calls from three different developers on the same acreage. Now none of them have bought the land. [2:26:16, 2:26:36]: They're just inquiring, right? And so it's it's not real. And at the end of the day, one of those developers may actually purchase the land, but when it gets to us, somebody owns the land. And they are now at a point where they're ready to develop it. And so, Mr. Alexander, the townhomes were put [2:26:36, 2:26:56]: Up on the website back in November, and you've gotten two quarterly reports since then that has that information in there. And so what I'm committed to do because if if I'm giving you the information and you're not reading it or it's hitting someplace where you don't get to it, then I will make [2:26:56, 2:27:16]: It's a point like I emailed you yesterday in terms of separating out all of that from the quarterly report and giving you those updates because when you go to the website and the information I send you, it says in the permitting process, plan review process, it names the project and then it tells you the staff. [2:27:16, 2:27:23]: Of it. So, you know, the townhomes I brought to you on the website in November. But however, [2:27:27, 2:27:28]: These last begin. [2:27:29, 2:27:30]: Yeah, she froze again. [2:27:31, 2:27:33]: Well I do have a I'd like to make a statement [2:27:34, 2:27:54]: As well. But she's still she's trying to talk now. She's she's muted again. Whatever whatever mechanism uh gets you the information on what is real, and however often you want us to get you that information on what is real, then we will accommodate. I just want to do a separation between economic development. [2:27:54, 2:28:14]: And people touring, and when it gets to community development and when it's real. And we actually have an applicant, there's actually plans submitted. We're actually reviewing them. We're actually doing a report on what permits are going to be issued. You know, that's kind of where we are. And so however you need for. [2:28:14, 2:28:26]: for us to accommodate giving you that information, we're open to it. I just want Mayor and Council to understand that on the community development side, we don't do the marketing, we don't do the touring. When it gets to us, we're dealing with the hammers and the nails. [2:28:28, 2:28:37]: Uh Ms. Ms. Moore, with all due respect, you know, several iterations are permit are submitted before a final plan is permitted and approved. [2:28:37, 2:28:57]: You're you you might go through five different iterations before you issue the permit. So you know exactly what I'm talking about. And no, I'm not gonna play this game with you or any other staff member about economic development. Everybody knows you have your hand in every piece of this city, and I do too, and everybody on this council does. So let's [2:28:57, 2:29:00]: Let's be for real here and understand. [2:29:00, 2:29:03]: We want I want the information. [2:29:03, 2:29:20]: I want to present it to us in a way that it comes and then again we know that long before the permit is issued, the developer and you are going back and forth, okay, on what needs to be done. Do they need to have a gate there? Don't they need to have a gate there? [2:29:20, 2:29:37]: W all of those kind of things are going back and forth and then the permit is issued and then we find out about the permit issued subsequently because things were going back and forth between the staff and the development side. We know things are going on in the downtown area that [2:29:38, 2:29:44]: All of us have our hands in. We don't have an economic development director, so we particularly know that. [2:29:44, 2:29:47]: So I'm not gonna play this game where [2:29:48, 2:29:53]: We say the the inf the information is transparent. I disagree. We disagree. [2:29:53, 2:29:59]: I'm not receiving the information that I think that I need to be effective. That's why I want this pass. [2:29:59, 2:30:04]: And therefore, let me just add for the public record so that the citizens will know. [2:30:04, 2:30:07]: I don't hide anything from anybody. [2:30:07, 2:30:08]: I don't. [2:30:08, 2:30:16]: And I'm not quite sure about the statement of my hands and everything, Miss Alexander. You know, what I what I do know is that I love this city. [2:30:17, 2:30:33]: You hired me to be your community development director and I take great pride in that. And whatever you hired me to do is what I do, sir. No more or no less. And so I I guess I'm just um your comments was a little bit offensive to me. [2:30:34, 2:30:54]: And so I'm not quite sure where you were going with it, but I do take offense. But for the record, I want the public to know that what is legally able for me to share, I do and I share with everybody. And that information is always posted on the website. And I'm gonna say this again: my statement to you. [2:30:54, 2:30:57]: Before you made a comment was counselman. [2:30:57, 2:31:17]: Any method or manner in which you feel that we can get you the information, just share. Just tell me. Because that information that's available, we've never hid it from you. Now, if you want the day-to-day process of how conversations go back and forth between staff, I will put you in the email. [2:31:17, 2:31:18]: Yeah. [2:31:18, 2:31:38]: If that's what you want to see. So if you want to see the discussion on offense and whether or not it should be eight, whether or not it should be rod, whether or not it should be wood, if you want to be in the email trail, we will more than happily do that. But for the discussion tonight, my only point was: what is the purpose of my deployment? [2:31:40, 2:31:48]: Oh, she's frozen again. Seems like. All right. Um she'll probably come back. Miss Barber, you had your hand up now. [2:31:48, 2:31:50]: I wanted to ask Ms. Moore. [2:31:50, 2:31:58]: From the time that a applicant submits their application, how soon the staff um uploads that information? [2:31:58, 2:31:59]: The same day. [2:32:00, 2:32:05]: Is it posted? We actually uh so let me go back. There is a [2:32:05, 2:32:07]: So as soon as the application is submitted. [2:32:08, 2:32:10]: Or anything we [2:32:10, 2:32:10]: Oh [2:32:13, 2:32:14]: Oh sorry. [2:32:14, 2:32:16]: Go ahead. I think he froze, Miss Barber. [2:32:19, 2:32:20]: Go ahead. [2:32:21, 2:32:27]: Ms. Moore, you were talking. Go ahead. Yeah, she is. I couldn't hear Ms. Barber because she was muted. That's what I was trying to tell her. [2:32:27, 2:32:28]: Okay. [2:32:28, 2:32:33]: I couldn't hear a question. Did she hear me? Yeah, she can hear you now. Go ahead. [2:32:34, 2:32:38]: Yes, yes, go ahead. I can't I can't hear. My question was [2:32:38, 2:32:40]: How soon after [2:32:40, 2:32:42]: An application is submitted. [2:32:43, 2:32:45]: Does your staff [2:32:45, 2:32:46]: Internet. [2:32:47, 2:32:48]: Or how soon will we see it? [2:32:48, 2:32:51]: after it has been submitted from the applicant. [2:32:57, 2:32:58]: Ms. Moore, did you hear that question? [2:33:03, 2:33:05]: I think she's froze. [2:33:05, 2:33:06]: Yeah, I think so. [2:33:07, 2:33:08]: Mm that's what mayor. [2:33:10, 2:33:12]: Mayor. Right, yes, sir. [2:33:12, 2:33:20]: Ms. Barber, can you change the language and I think Councilwoman Barber's on to something? Maybe we could change the the language to when the application is submitted. [2:33:21, 2:33:41]: I've already said that. Permitted. There's a difference between permitted and uh submitted. No, I said when an application is submitted, that's when we would know. Hold on, hold on stand by, stand by. Hold on, hold on. Everybody stand by for a second. Hold on. [2:33:40, 2:33:50]: No go ahead, uh clerk, you have the motion. Motion made in seconds. It has both. It has application and permitted in the motion. There we go. [2:33:50, 2:33:53]: So what we could re restate the motion, please. [2:33:54, 2:33:55]: Reset the motion please. [2:33:57, 2:34:03]: You want you mean for me or co or Councilwoman Gantt? Miss Holliday restated the motion. You said it had [2:34:03, 2:34:07]: Uh application. I'm okay if it has application in there. It does. [2:34:08, 2:34:11]: does have to amend this particular policy. [2:34:12, 2:34:27]: But it has that it would be when the application is received and permitted. That's what the motion currently states. Right. Oh that's my point. I don't want it to be permitted. I want it to be submitted. [2:34:27, 2:34:36]: No, received is submitted. So I'm I'm you mean application though, the application and the permit are different. So right. [2:34:37, 2:34:44]: Wait, actually they're not. They're not. The application is for the permit. [2:34:45, 2:34:55]: The application is for the permit. But we just want the application. We don't want it to be approved yet. We want it I was gonna say, does the permit have to be but it has to be approved? [2:34:55, 2:34:56]: No. [2:34:56, 2:34:57]: Okay. [2:34:58, 2:35:02]: Please restate your motion. Thank you. So I would like to make a motion. [2:35:02, 2:35:03]: Two [2:35:04, 2:35:07]: Amend our resolution to read. [2:35:08, 2:35:15]: That mayor and council will have knowledge of any applications that are submitted. [2:35:16, 2:35:17]: Okay. [2:35:17, 2:35:18]: Second. [2:35:19, 2:35:20]: No, no, she's not done yet. [2:35:21, 2:35:26]: Well I was and and I also threw in permits, but as well as any permits. [2:35:27, 2:35:29]: That are submitted. We have a right to know. [2:35:30, 2:35:37]: Everything submitted and everything everything submitted solely and everything permitted solely. [2:35:37, 2:35:39]: We have a right to know. [2:35:39, 2:35:51]: Okay, but they're the same. I just want to be clear. The application is for a permit. So as long as you understand they're the same thing. We we understand. We do. Step one, long as it's been submitted, we should have the right to know. [2:35:52, 2:35:54]: That's what I think. [2:35:54, 2:35:55]: Okay. [2:35:58, 2:35:58]: Okay. [2:35:59, 2:36:13]: Can we go ahead and vote? You want one second, please. I was Vanessa's writing, folks. I've right I I've got it. I wanna make sure she's kept up. I had to change the second one because the the previous second was Councilman Dunn. But now it's Mr. Alexander. [2:36:13, 2:36:18]: Once we I want my question answered by Miss Moore, please. [2:36:19, 2:36:22]: Okay. Okay. I'm sorry, I never got your question, is Barber? [2:36:24, 2:36:32]: Her question was how soon is information uploaded by staff when it's received? When it's not what you're saying. [2:36:32, 2:36:36]: Right. As soon as the applicate is okay. Can you hear me? [2:36:36, 2:36:38]: First. [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: Yeah, see go ahead most more. [2:36:41, 2:36:51]: Okay, so as soon as the application for the permit is requested, that becomes live and we immediately upload it because now it is a live project that's being permitted. [2:36:53, 2:37:01]: Barb Councilman Barber, the one barbari, you got that, right? Is that good to answer your question? That was not my qu no, it doesn't. What's your question? [2:37:02, 2:37:03]: How soon? [2:37:03, 2:37:05]: Once the application has been [2:37:06, 2:37:07]: Submit it to staff. [2:37:08, 2:37:09]: How soon? [2:37:10, 2:37:11]: The staff. [2:37:11, 2:37:14]: Upload that information. Is it the same day? [2:37:14, 2:37:15]: The next day. [2:37:16, 2:37:18]: Couple of days later. [2:37:19, 2:37:22]: Well most times the same day because [2:37:22, 2:37:25]: Once it the application is for a permit. [2:37:26, 2:37:29]: Everything that is permitted is immediately available. [2:37:29, 2:37:30]: Okay. [2:37:30, 2:37:31]: Thank you. [2:37:31, 2:37:32]: The same day. [2:37:34, 2:37:41]: All right. Now. You see me? Yeah, she got you. She's taking it. She understood that. All right. So we m most [2:37:42, 2:37:43]: The motion's been made, been seconded. [2:37:44, 2:37:44]: Right. [2:37:45, 2:37:46]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:37:46, 2:37:54]: I'm sorry, are we able to add that to the resolution to start the same day? [2:37:55, 2:38:00]: Okay, so our system, Miss Barber, automatically generates it once it goes into the system. [2:38:01, 2:38:08]: That it will be into the same the same day. No Yes, no. [2:38:08, 2:38:16]: That it would be entered and uploaded in the system the same day that it was received. [2:38:19, 2:38:19]: Okay. [2:38:19, 2:38:35]: Are we able to add that to the motion? Well, first of all, uh the you didn't draw the you didn't make the motion, so the the individual made the motion would have to want to add that to the motion. So mayor forward, the information is generated through a software. [2:38:36, 2:38:36]: Okay. [2:38:37, 2:38:40]: Information generated through the software. All right. [2:38:41, 2:38:44]: All right, got it, understood. Uh Councilman Blount, yes, sir. [2:38:45, 2:38:56]: What we have at hand is everything is being said once the application comes in, which is to permit that the council would be notified and it's and it's mostly done the same day. I mean, why what [2:38:59, 2:39:10]: It this is what's being said. I'm just saying, God, this not this stuff's not rocket science. We've getting what we all asked for. Why don't we j we're sitting here all night going back and forth, just circulating the same information? [2:39:10, 2:39:29]: We just want to make sure when it's submitted, we get it. That's it. When it's submitted, we get it. Even though it's submitted, we wanna have access to it. It's in the motion. It's in the motion. If you don't get it, then then the then you deal with stuff. Let's this stuff is in the motion. We keep going. Let's deal with the motion. If that's in the motion, let's vote on the motion. [2:39:30, 2:39:31]: Would this uh [2:39:31, 2:39:37]: All right. Motion's been made. It's been seconded. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:39:39, 2:39:42]: All right, tsunamis decision. Fantastic. All right. [2:39:44, 2:39:51]: I so uh council consideration to amend the city social media policy. Mr. Williams, please. [2:39:54, 2:40:00]: We have a provision in our current social media policy that [2:40:00, 2:40:10]: provides that information pertaining to council initiatives will be limited to promotional uh information prior to the event only. [2:40:12, 2:40:17]: And so um, like the previous agenda item, there's been a request from council members. [2:40:18, 2:40:23]: to uh remove that specific provision from the social media policy. [2:40:23, 2:40:31]: And then going forward, it would presumably be up to the assistant to mayor and council to [2:40:31, 2:40:40]: uh work with council members on their initiatives with respect to what types of information is presented about council initiatives after they occur. [2:40:40, 2:40:42]: In terms of pictures and other [2:40:42, 2:40:46]: you know, after uh event uh information. [2:40:46, 2:40:56]: Um so there would be a um presumably a motion on the table to remove that provision from the social media policy if that's the will of council. [2:40:57, 2:40:59]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead now. [2:40:59, 2:41:03]: Uh yes, sir. Thank you, uh Mr. Attorney for drafting that information. [2:41:05, 2:41:09]: Superstar entertainer Chris Tucker came to town. [2:41:11, 2:41:14]: We was able to put that out in local newspaper. [2:41:15, 2:41:18]: Бо і що ерисомедія сайт in the city. [2:41:19, 2:41:30]: Councilman Thomas, Mayor Pro Tem Thomas did a outstanding job. I was I was I loved every minute of it sitting there on the front seat. Some of the very best things that we do. [2:41:31, 2:41:34]: As council members for this as far as the city. [2:41:34, 2:41:35]: Council members do it. [2:41:36, 2:41:38]: The commissioners do it all the time. [2:41:39, 2:41:43]: Ви surrendering one of the greatest tools that we have. [2:41:44, 2:41:51]: For my own myself and all every all of you have been involved and have joined the Women's History Month program. [2:41:51, 2:42:02]: The Women's History Month program is covered throughout the state. It was on on radio, it was on TV, it was a lot of places. It was everywhere, but promoted by this city. [2:42:02, 2:42:22]: On our social media sites. And that goes from Mr. Blount's back to school all of these years. Now it's a city event. But at the same time, when Greg Street came to town, we should have had Greg Street on our social media site, but you know, promoting that particular event. The Councilwoman Barber's doing the blood drive now. [2:42:22, 2:42:33]: In this pandemic and in this emergency situation, everybody needs to know that we got a council member that stepped up to meet a critical need on blood. [2:42:33, 2:42:35]: But the event was done. [2:42:36, 2:42:56]: And we couldn't share any of the information on our strongest tool on social media. It's pretty simple to me that whatever we do in terms of these particular programs that the that the council members execute, we should be able to do that. And we should be able to share that with the community and show [2:42:56, 2:43:06]: a shining light on all of the council members as they do the individual initiatives. This is something I was when I was sitting there and I saw Chris Tucker, I was blown away. [2:43:06, 2:43:09]: I was like, man, this is amazing. But then [2:43:09, 2:43:10]: It was like wow. [2:43:12, 2:43:14]: More Mitchell was there. [2:43:14, 2:43:19]: We had all kinds of things going on there, but we couldn't but our but our [2:43:20, 2:43:27]: Public information officer could not is issue a press release on it because of our social media policy. [2:43:27, 2:43:29]: I just like to see that change. [2:43:31, 2:43:32]: Thank you. Any other comments? [2:43:34, 2:43:42]: Go ahead, Councilman Blount. I understand the press release is put out on all of our initiative. In fact, we just I just saw uh your stuff, uh Councilman Alexander on [2:43:43, 2:43:44]: Uh, next door. [2:43:44, 2:43:48]: In in and uh and we've had it going to Henry Henry uh [2:43:48, 2:43:52]: Henry County on the Henry County Channel. I think that all of our initiatives [2:43:52, 2:43:57]: of of being promoted. Every initiative we do is gone out to a press release that is happening. [2:43:57, 2:44:01]: I mean people ask me about the the initiative that you got coming up. [2:44:01, 2:44:21]: I think that one of the things we have to do is be careful and be careful how much leniency we put on put on promotion because we could we can turn something that's good right now into a monster and it becomes political for us and be and we get political gain out of it. I think promoting our initiatives by through our uh executive assistant that we're gonna be hiring. [2:44:21, 2:44:25]: soon and through the the avenues that are going out now, I think it's [2:44:25, 2:44:31]: Uh your event uh with the women's uh uh history black history month is packed out. [2:44:31, 2:44:43]: Councilman uh Thomas uh uh event is packed out. The the the bingo is packed out. I think that the tools that we have to promote these events in the city limits of stockbridge. [2:44:44, 2:44:52]: There's no lacking of no no lacking a uh if the different thing is we say, hey, we put all this work in and nobody's coming, that's not the case. [2:44:53, 2:44:59]: Because they because every initiative that we do, there's a press release put out about that initiative. [2:45:00, 2:45:18]: So I think that the avenues and next door and and and then we we have we have the the banners that we put out and we got flyers that we put, I think it's being promoted. I think that when we start to go lenient with this, then we're gonna go have another another tool that we can use as council members. [2:45:18, 2:45:22]: to uh to to abuse and a at times that could be [2:45:22, 2:45:28]: For political gain and it shouldn't be nothing but used for a service for the citizens. And I think that's happening right now. [2:45:29, 2:45:31]: Uh, Mayor, if I could respond. [2:45:31, 2:45:32]: Yeah, sure, go ahead. [2:45:33, 2:45:39]: Uh and Councilman Blount, I I actually agree with everything you said. The leader is absolutely fine. [2:45:40, 2:45:48]: It's what happens after Chris Tucker hit the stage. Nobody saw it on city social media and press release. [2:45:49, 2:45:52]: Nobody can do that because of this policy. [2:45:52, 2:46:03]: Everything was great leading up to uh uh uh mayor pro tems event and my event, the events were packed out, but nobody saw the packed house. [2:46:03, 2:46:09]: on city social media or through a city press release highlighting a great thing. [2:46:09, 2:46:10]: That occurred. [2:46:11, 2:46:12]: You know, that's that's what I'm talking about. [2:46:14, 2:46:14]: All right. [2:46:15, 2:46:16]: Ain't anybody else? [2:46:17, 2:46:22]: Uh no, I would like to go ahead and make a motion to accept this a recommendation as [2:46:22, 2:46:24]: Outlined by the city attorney. [2:46:25, 2:46:25]: Is there a second? [2:46:27, 2:46:28]: Zero second. [2:46:29, 2:46:29]: I'll second it. [2:46:30, 2:46:32]: All right, Councilman Barber, a second. Any further discussion? [2:46:33, 2:46:35]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:46:37, 2:46:38]: Opposed. [2:46:40, 2:46:42]: Uh motion passes three to two. [2:46:44, 2:46:52]: Okay. Council consideration to approve the use of test stricken community center for community blood drives. Councilwoman Barber, please. [2:46:56, 2:47:03]: Thank you, Mayor. Um I know we're in the midst of a pandemic and um there are still critical needs in our community. [2:47:03, 2:47:07]: Um blood drives and blood donations are one of them. [2:47:07, 2:47:08]: Um [2:47:09, 2:47:12]: I'm asking for the use of the test strickline. [2:47:12, 2:47:13]: Center. [2:47:13, 2:47:14]: Um [2:47:15, 2:47:16]: One Saturday [2:47:16, 2:47:17]: Every month. [2:47:18, 2:47:19]: through the end of this year. [2:47:20, 2:47:25]: There will be no public access inside of the Ted Strickland Community Center. [2:47:25, 2:47:41]: Mayor Ford, you actually attended the very first one that I had in July. You saw that there were um there was a blood mobile outside. So they're actually doing the blood col collections outside in the mobile unit. [2:47:42, 2:47:50]: The only access we'll need to the inside of the Tr Ted Strickland Community Center. It's just for um staff. [2:47:50, 2:47:55]: And maybe the black collection employees to use the restroom. [2:47:56, 2:48:00]: So no public access. Um so I'm just asking for council permission. [2:48:01, 2:48:04]: to have use of the Ted Strickland Community Center. [2:48:05, 2:48:07]: One Saturday of every month. [2:48:08, 2:48:28]: Okay. I will say to you that yes, I did attend that very first time and I and I give blood continually across with Red Cross through the course of the year. I think it's a great idea. But my only concern is simply this. I thought we came up with a policy in reference to the use of test strictly and mural manners. I just want to make sure we try to adhere to that or we are we or if we accept this, are we changing that particular [2:48:28, 2:48:33]: I'm aware of [2:48:34, 2:48:39]: some policy. Um but I do remember in January um [2:48:40, 2:48:43]: Councilman Blount uh requested from the council. [2:48:43, 2:48:54]: to use the Merrill Mander Center each month for the bingo bash. So we I know that we can make exceptions. Um this is one of those exceptions I'm asking for. [2:48:54, 2:48:55]: All right. [2:48:55, 2:48:57]: Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [2:48:57, 2:49:07]: Uh uh I I have to agree with uh Councilman Alexander. One time he said, Why deny a council member to I I I'm for her using it. Uh it's I think it's a good initiative. [2:49:07, 2:49:09]: My only problem is is that [2:49:10, 2:49:12]: This is a city's facility. [2:49:13, 2:49:19]: And if the city facilities are closed to the public right now, then how would they be able to be in use? [2:49:19, 2:49:24]: Because I was just told just recently by uh out of uh by uh Miss Holiday [2:49:25, 2:49:32]: that we can't use s basically use the city facilities because we're not gonna be using them for congregations. [2:49:32, 2:49:35]: So if if the city facility city hall is closed to the public [2:49:36, 2:49:39]: My only thing is is that why would we allow [2:49:40, 2:49:51]: It's nothing against Councilwoman Barber. I'm just saying that we have to be careful and cautious when we open facilities for certain reasons. Is that for now, Councilwoman Barber? Are you talking about for next year? [2:49:51, 2:49:52]: Mm. [2:49:52, 2:50:03]: That's for now through the end of the year and will continue next year. I'll tell you, um there will be no public access to the interior. [2:50:04, 2:50:07]: of the community center. It is a community center. [2:50:07, 2:50:27]: We should providing some understanding in the re in the community center. I recognize that this uh coronavirus is something serious. So no, I'm not asking for use of the interior of the building. I would not be going through with this if there was [2:50:27, 2:50:36]: Wasn't a critical need, and if there wasn't an alternate way to provide the services that we so desperately need in our community. [2:50:36, 2:50:56]: They're using a blood mobile on the outside. I know you didn't attend. Let me cut you off a mobile unit on the outside where they let me let me finish. You you asked my you answered my question. I asked your question, was it about that? And you asked it. I'm not against what you're doing. I think what you're doing is an awesome thing. I've I I [2:50:56, 2:50:59]: I I pray that it's successful. It's well needed. [2:50:59, 2:51:02]: I'm going back to policies now. [2:51:03, 2:51:05]: When we're talking about policies. [2:51:05, 2:51:10]: uh about facilities the the city facilities [2:51:11, 2:51:14]: Uh if someone wants to go inside and use the restroom. [2:51:14, 2:51:16]: At this strictly [2:51:16, 2:51:26]: Is that now a citizen going in to use a public use our facilities being able to go inside? Are our facilities closed to the public or is there uh uh [2:51:27, 2:51:28]: Oh [2:51:28, 2:51:29]: Is that um [2:51:30, 2:51:30]: Yeah. [2:51:30, 2:51:38]: Or we open them up for certain circumstances or or reasons. And if so, then how do we determine that? That's all I'm saying. [2:51:39, 2:51:47]: Is that if they're either close to the public or they're open to the public, or there are certain circumstances that do that. And how do we determine that? Because I was told. [2:51:48, 2:51:51]: That when it comes to con anybody congregating. [2:51:52, 2:52:00]: We're not promoting that because we're promoting safety, we're promoting mass, and that's why the city facilities are closed right now. So [2:52:00, 2:52:07]: How can the city facilities be closed, but yet we're opening it up for people to go inside? That's the only thing I'm saying. [2:52:07, 2:52:18]: Okay, no, I answered that question um at the beginning. Um what I said is the facility, the only people who will have access to the facility are staff members. [2:52:19, 2:52:38]: That's it. So anyone coming to donate blood, hopefully they can use the restrooms next door or maybe the blood mobiles have a restroom for them. We didn't have an issue the first time around. So Mr. Knighton can actually address that. [2:52:38, 2:52:40]: Even further if need be. [2:52:41, 2:52:44]: Are you talking about city staff or the staff that's the blood drive staff? [2:52:45, 2:52:45]: Well [2:52:47, 2:52:50]: Then that goes back. Anything outside the city staff. [2:52:50, 2:52:51]: Is [2:52:51, 2:52:55]: So in my my opinion, I thought wasn't allowed inside these facilities. [2:52:57, 2:53:11]: Okay. Uh go ahead. Councilman Assanna, go ahead, please. Uh I I think Mr. Bond, I think y you know, it is policy you know, we make the policy as city council. With really we can do what we what we choose to do, but to make the point is that [2:53:12, 2:53:14]: These are health care professionals. [2:53:15, 2:53:35]: I understand your point that if some of a citizen came up and they wanted to use the restroom, we we tell them no. But the blood mobile, they're a dire essential need. And that's what we're talking about under COVID-19. They're essential need. So we I'm sure uh we could allow the essential needs of these of the folks in the blood mobile. [2:53:35, 2:53:44]: be a hap, they need to use the restroom along with city staff to do that. I see your point, but in the end, uh we're healthcare profess their healthcare professionals. [2:53:44, 2:53:48]: And as a city council we can set the standard for this, I believe. I think we can [2:53:50, 2:53:52]: Mr. Night, did you have something you needed to answer? [2:53:52, 2:53:58]: No, I'd I was just gonna mention that um, you know, we've obviously closed the facilities to [2:53:58, 2:54:01]: Any assemblies or congregating things of that nature? [2:54:02, 2:54:08]: Um and and are not renting out the facilities to the public given where we are with uh COVID nineteen. [2:54:08, 2:54:09]: Um [2:54:10, 2:54:13]: I must confess though that if someone came [2:54:13, 2:54:18]: to our uh the event that we had the back to school event or one of the masks in [2:54:19, 2:54:27]: And hand sanitizer giveaways, and somebody said they needed to go in and use the restroom. I probably would have let them use the restroom. That did not happen, but I'm just saying. [2:54:27, 2:54:30]: In those extreme situations, um [2:54:31, 2:54:34]: You know, I think we have to be accommodating in that regard, understanding. [2:54:35, 2:54:41]: that we are not uh opening them up to the public for assembly, gathering, or anything else, and we're encouraging people [2:54:41, 2:54:44]: Um, you know, uh not to assemble in those public places. [2:54:46, 2:54:47]: Any other comments from the council? [2:54:49, 2:54:53]: If not a motion's on well, no wait, we didn't no one made a motion yet. Is that correct? [2:54:53, 2:54:57]: I thought Ms. Barber made the motion. Okay, it was a second. [2:54:58, 2:55:01]: She didn't make a we need to make a motion. Yeah, I didn't think I didn't think so. [2:55:02, 2:55:04]: [10506.8, 10507.7]: I can't hear you, sir. [2:55:10, 2:55:11]: You're muted. [2:55:12, 2:55:13]: Still muted. [2:55:15, 2:55:20]: Still muted, sir. There you go. I was trying to find that little arrow that goes to it, so [2:55:21, 2:55:33]: No, I'm saying if she made the motion, I'll second it. I agree with this. I'm just trying to make sure that we're in line with policy. So when I get any questions, I'm okay with it. I'm okay with her using it. I and I wanted to be successful. [2:55:33, 2:55:34]: Mr. Mayor. [2:55:35, 2:55:35]: Yes, sir. [2:55:36, 2:55:39]: Uh I'd like to make the motion that we allow um [2:55:39, 2:55:43]: Mrs. Barber to use a facility uh for the blood dry. [2:55:43, 2:55:44]: Yes, okay. [2:55:45, 2:56:03]: Okay. Okay, so I had a motion for Barber Blount, but now it's changed to Thomas B. Barber would have made the motion. I just seconded it. Okay, okay, well we're good. I love how I missed it. I I didn't hear Miss Barber make the motion, that's the reason I made it, but Mayor, I I [2:56:03, 2:56:12]: Well, I I I was thinking since I was oh in all actuality, since Barber presented this, I would think she would make the motion herself. Actually, in all actuality. [2:56:12, 2:56:19]: In this aspect. So how about this, Mayor Pro Tan? Why don't you rescind that and allow Barber to make her own motion for her own thing she brought forward? [2:56:20, 2:56:24]: Mayor Council, I I I rescind my motion. Thank you. [2:56:24, 2:56:26]: Ms. Barber, go write it, please. [2:56:27, 2:56:28]: Ms. Barber. [2:56:28, 2:56:29]: Go ahead, go ahead. [2:56:31, 2:56:35]: Go ahead, make the motion, please. I'd like to make the motion to allow [2:56:35, 2:56:39]: Am I supposed to say I asked for use or to allow you? [2:56:39, 2:56:43]: Um it's allow be fine. Ala will be fine. Allow is fine. [2:56:43, 2:56:45]: I like to make a motion. [2:56:45, 2:56:48]: To allow use of the Ted Strickland. [2:56:48, 2:56:50]: Community center. [2:56:50, 2:56:51]: Once a month. [2:56:52, 2:56:57]: On a Saturday, you all have the Saturday date scheduled. [2:56:57, 2:57:00]: Already through the end of the year. [2:57:00, 2:57:03]: And there will be more dates come next year. [2:57:03, 2:57:07]: For a blood drive. For the blood drive. For the blood drives. Okay. [2:57:07, 2:57:15]: Thank you. Is there a second to the motion? Okay, Alexander second then. Any further discussion? I would think not. Okay. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:57:15, 2:57:19]: All right, so fantastic. Okay. Thank you. [2:57:19, 2:57:28]: Uh council, let's see here. Council consideration to approve an increase of the contract for geotechnical engineering services. [2:57:28, 2:57:36]: An amount of seventy-four thousand three hundred and eighty dollars for unsuitable soils for the amplifier project. Funding source, present a funding source. [2:57:37, 2:57:40]: And then it's got presented by Mr. Knighton, city manager. [2:57:40, 2:57:42]: Carl Televantin. [2:57:43, 2:57:45]: Kekin Wood and Miss Moore, please. [2:57:49, 2:58:09]: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Mayor and Council. Yes, Carl Trevathan with um uh with Kekin Wood is working with Kekin Wood is here as well to describe some of the um uh details of this uh particular request. Um previously there was an award amount of twenty-five thousand six hundred and twenty dollars for [2:58:09, 2:58:15]: for geotechnical services related to soils on the amphitheater site. [2:58:15, 2:58:33]: We're looking at the second phase of the amphitheater site and the geotech services would be needed for to ensure that any impervious surface is applicable to be applied to those particular surfaces. [2:58:33, 2:58:38]: As you know, we found some uh interesting items um on the amphitheater property. [2:58:38, 2:58:43]: And uh as a result of that, we've had to deal with some unsuitable soil situation. [2:58:44, 2:58:57]: This request would um, if uh council approves it, would allow this firm to uh continue some work out there that we anticipate will be needed um for the uh remainder of the site. [2:58:58, 2:59:00]: And Mr. Trevathan can speak. [2:59:00, 2:59:04]: uh more specifically to uh the need for this particular item. [2:59:05, 2:59:09]: How about a call? What else you need to add, sir? Thank you, Mayor and Council. [2:59:10, 2:59:11]: Okay. [2:59:11, 2:59:14]: Have a good time this evening with you guys, so uh [2:59:15, 2:59:18]: to say the least. Hopefully we can get through this one pretty quick. [2:59:18, 2:59:34]: Um the uh the contract to uh Pete Bond uh for uh materials testing um was set up um obviously at the beginning of the project and and there's been a lot that's gone on since then with [2:59:34, 2:59:54]: Unsuitable soils and potential expansion of the project into a phase two. So the contracts for materials testing are set up on a what we call a unit basis. It's kind of as needed. But we try to set a budget ahead of time. [2:59:54, 3:00:07]: time to uh uh to be able to to come up with an adequate budget. Um that's all driven by the need of the project. So this project has uh a greater need for materials testing than [3:00:07, 3:00:10]: what was originally anticipated so [3:00:10, 3:00:16]: Uh it's very normal uh when you have a project like this to have to expand the budget for materials testing. [3:00:16, 3:00:36]: Uh it's it's a vital part of the quality control of the project to have third party testing and so that's why uh this this expansion is uh of the budget is an an increase of the contract amount as is needed for the project. So I can ask and uh answer any other questions any uh anybody has, but that's that's pretty much it in a nutshell. [3:00:36, 3:00:37]: Nutshell. [3:00:38, 3:00:41]: All right. Council any questions for Carl? And I'm gonna say Carl because I'm not gonna try to [3:00:42, 3:00:45]: Pronounce your last name or chop it up. Okay. [3:00:46, 3:00:49]: Any questions for this any question for Carl there? [3:00:49, 3:00:54]: Okay, but Barber, ask one barber. She's raised the hunt first. Go ahead. Customer barber, go ahead. [3:00:54, 3:00:57]: So am I correct in assuming that um [3:00:58, 3:01:01]: Are there five phases of this project? [3:01:03, 3:01:11]: Okay. I won't be able to answer that, so maybe uh it's it's only it's only two, phase one and phase two. I think I mentioned that in the narrative. [3:01:12, 3:01:20]: If I left it out, I apologize. But I try to do the narrative to always speak to. It's two phases, phase one and phase two. [3:01:20, 3:01:25]: So the earthwork and foundation slab construction, that was phase one. [3:01:27, 3:01:28]: Miss Moore. [3:01:28, 3:01:29]: She's stuck. [3:01:29, 3:01:31]: I think she's frozen here. [3:01:32, 3:01:40]: I'm trying to understand. So I'm looking at um the scope of services here. The earth earthwork, was that just phase one? [3:01:41, 3:01:45]: And then the foundation concrete that's phase two and then the masonry. [3:01:45, 3:01:46]: Construction. [3:01:48, 3:01:51]: I was just trying to understand how it was going down. [3:01:51, 3:01:58]: Yeah, I think I think Carl may be able to address this, but I think that that what you're looking at is the total [3:01:59, 3:02:11]: of the scope of work that they would provide. Not it's not necessarily broken down in phases, but that's the total scope of work and details that they would provide for the entire project in terms of their review and evaluation. [3:02:11, 3:02:14]: Gotcha. So twenty five thousand for each. [3:02:15, 3:02:16]: I'll be [3:02:17, 3:02:21]: sections or services providing. [3:02:22, 3:02:27]: No, this is the total of everything that they pro provide as a company. [3:02:27, 3:02:28]: Okay. [3:02:28, 3:02:29]: And and for this site. [3:02:30, 3:02:30]: Okay. [3:02:32, 3:02:32]: Thank you. [3:02:32, 3:02:34]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, sir. [3:02:34, 3:02:39]: Uh yes, uh Cara. Uh thank you for uh coming to share this information. [3:02:39, 3:02:45]: Can you describe the uh unsuitable soil? Um, is it it appears that [3:02:45, 3:02:51]: The last time we approved uh the same subject was unsuitable soil. [3:02:51, 3:02:56]: Can you uh describe the uh unsuitable soil in this particular case? [3:02:57, 3:03:17]: Well, the unsuitable soils from the first phase of construction uh which we're undertaking right now, um we're pretty much past that, but it has drained the materials testing budget. And understand the materials testing is not just soils. Uh it's it's foundation work, it's concrete, uh it's [3:03:17, 3:03:37]: uh masonry construction, steel construction. So we're still encountering um expenses from Piedmont for uh the later items which is the concrete and the steel. So that's we've kind of drained the budget when we were dealing with the unsuitable soils early on in the project. [3:03:37, 3:03:43]: But this increase also will include setting up the budget for the phase two project. [3:03:44, 3:03:45]: Harding. [3:03:45, 3:03:48]: Uh which none of that has been expended yet, of course. [3:03:49, 3:03:56]: Hope that answers the question. Well, it it it did not. I'm I'm still trying to get an idea and a picture of [3:03:57, 3:04:01]: What is unsuitable soil? Okay. [3:04:02, 3:04:22]: So on the project, you initially set up a project assuming that all the soils on the project would be usable uh for reuse on the project for for backfill or for um the the regular uh what we call the cut and fill of the [3:04:22, 3:04:34]: airport, the fill part of the airport. So just moving dirt around. And when you encounter unsuitable soils, usually they contain organics or they may be excessively wet. [3:04:34, 3:04:52]: I think in our cases, uh, it was a lot of organics that was encountered. They can't be used on the project, so they have to be hauled off. So um the testing part of that is the people comes to the project and assesses those soils to determine if they can or cannot be used. [3:04:52, 3:04:58]: Uh, they quantify how much is not usable and substantiate. [3:04:58, 3:05:02]: The contractors initiative in [3:05:02, 3:05:07]: uh in quantifying how much dirt was hauled off that was unsuitable. [3:05:07, 3:05:13]: And the flip side of that is is to call in suitable soil suitable soil from an off site. [3:05:14, 3:05:24]: uh a borrow pit if you will uh to bring the project. So that's what's happened on this project is instead of the the soils being excavated and used on the project. [3:05:25, 3:05:30]: The unsuitables because of their their their organic contents uh [3:05:30, 3:05:33]: had to be hauled off and then and then good dirt brought back. [3:05:34, 3:05:41]: So when you say organic, Mr. Mayor, if I may, uh uh describe organic soil. [3:05:41, 3:05:52]: So that's gonna be soils that uh have um a lot of buried uh trees, uh roots, um and it could go beyond organic. It could it could be [3:05:53, 3:06:04]: uh materials that were placed there that might include loose rock or or things like that or just the soil itself is not what we'd call an engineered field type soil. [3:06:05, 3:06:05]: Oh [3:06:06, 3:06:11]: And the reason I asked this question is because it seemed like in some of the document I read where [3:06:11, 3:06:13]: It was stated um [3:06:15, 3:06:27]: that it may have been a landfill in this particular area. Right. Now you probably don't know this, but um I grew up here in Starkbridge and I'm familiar with the site. I knew what was on this site. [3:06:28, 3:06:29]: Um [3:06:29, 3:06:33]: Many years ago, way before they even thought about building City Hall. [3:06:33, 3:06:41]: And uh and that's why I wanted you to describe uh unsuitable soil. Now it it seems like in a project like this. [3:06:41, 3:06:44]: Uh if it's wooded area and [3:06:44, 3:06:50]: In building an amphitheater and you're moving a lot of dirt and a lot of salt. [3:06:50, 3:06:52]: It would seem that [3:06:52, 3:06:54]: This would have been built into the scope. [3:06:55, 3:06:59]: other project. It it I mean it just seemed like it would. [3:07:01, 3:07:14]: Okay, I'm gonna have to defer to Miss Moore because I wasn't involved in the initial setup of the property. Right. So um very good question, uh Mayor Pro Temp and it was if you remember back in um [3:07:15, 3:07:23]: Before 2020, around 19, we actually brought you all of the Piedmont and all the information that was a part of the ini initial scope. [3:07:24, 3:07:28]: after T SW had actually done their um [3:07:28, 3:07:40]: documents for us. And then at that particular time, based on the documents that they submitted, that's where you got that initial cost of the$25,000, which was a part of the initial scope. [3:07:40, 3:08:00]: But what happened is that when they got out there and they discovered that it was pretty much like you said, a landfill, then that caused the modification. So the services were a part of the original scope. What could not be determined were the unknowns, which actually are revealed once they started construction. I think they found [3:08:00, 3:08:20]: some retaining walls, they found concrete slabs. They found apparently a lot of debris that were part of building, I think, City Hall. The government just kind of buried it, you know, out there in the field. So while the initial scope spoke to the geotech and [3:08:20, 3:08:25]: And we initially had a cost, it's when they actually got out and performed the work. [3:08:25, 3:08:30]: that what we call they discover the retaining wall or [3:08:30, 3:08:33]: If if I may, um [3:08:34, 3:08:37]: Again, I grew up here when City Hall was built. [3:08:38, 3:08:39]: Um [3:08:39, 3:08:43]: It was wooded. I I I can't see how you could actually dump [3:08:44, 3:08:50]: through all of the woods and the trees. Um the high tower house, someone actually lived in the house. [3:08:50, 3:09:01]: Um where the flower shop was, it was a house. There was several businesses. Uh the church was there, the the ball field was there. So when City Hall was built, [3:09:01, 3:09:06]: Uh all of that area was was was wooded and grown up so [3:09:08, 3:09:17]: I would say when City Hall was built, all of that debris was hauled off. So there could not have been any dumping and it was never a landfill. [3:09:17, 3:09:27]: Um the only landfill in Star Brig was uh in the um Jennings Way area, well Memorial Park. That was the that was the landfill there. [3:09:28, 3:09:48]: Right. I think we provided you some pictures in the last report that we sent with the change orders. So we don't know when all of the dumping occurred. We don't know. Like you said, you remember as far back as you can. We don't know. What we do know is that we have pictures of what was found. So when they found the retaining walls. [3:09:48, 3:09:54]: when they found you know concrete block. You know, at some point in time, somebody actually. [3:09:54, 3:10:14]: buried it there. And so now it's being discovered as we're moving dirt. At what point in time? We just assume, you know, because that was the most recent um building, that all of this uh debris construction, all this other stuff came from the building, but you're saying that it didn't, but at some point in time [3:10:14, 3:10:18]: Somebody buried all of this debris. [3:10:18, 3:10:19]: uh out there on the site. [3:10:20, 3:10:38]: Well, I I I I guess it was done during uh M. L. King's senior time because um I won't say what year I was born, but I remember when all of that was built and I remember uh Mosley and Gilbert had a garage there where City Hall was and I I just know for a fact it was all wooded. So [3:10:39, 3:10:41]: Uh it is what it is, but um [3:10:42, 3:10:44]: I I just question that [3:10:45, 3:10:47]: And I just don't understand how [3:10:47, 3:10:48]: Um [3:10:48, 3:10:52]: When you're moving soil and dirt to build something like an amphitheater. [3:10:53, 3:10:58]: that that is not a built in cost and so I don't understand why [3:10:58, 3:11:00]: And I guess I need to ask the question. [3:11:00, 3:11:03]: Will we will staff be coming back again? [3:11:03, 3:11:04]: Talking about unsuitable soul. [3:11:05, 3:11:08]: Well, I can tell you on the site the other day they hit rock. [3:11:09, 3:11:27]: Um, you know, on the Georgia power um authorization that you gave, we got an email yesterday that they actually hit rock. And all I can say, councilman, is that you know, when you're building these type of projects, you just don't know what's underground until you are [3:11:28, 3:11:48]: Doing the work. What we tried to do was based on what we've found thus far, is give an estimate based on the soil that we discovered as unsuitable as a part of phase one, a basic estimate considering that we're probably going to deal with some of the same issues in terms of what those costs may look like. [3:11:48, 3:11:57]: Like. And hopefully what we're asking for, you know, will be enough. But for instance, when we start doing the parking lot and rockets hit. [3:11:58, 3:12:00]: It's rock, so we tried. [3:12:01, 3:12:04]: I can understand rock'cause if you just [3:12:04, 3:12:07]: I mean just look at the earth when there was nothing. [3:12:07, 3:12:10]: Nothing but the railroad, so I understand about rock, but [3:12:10, 3:12:13]: Anyway, that that's that's my final question, uh Mr. Mayor. [3:12:13, 3:12:14]: All right. [3:12:14, 3:12:15]: Boa. [3:12:15, 3:12:17]: No, no problem. Any other questions uh for Carl? [3:12:19, 3:12:26]: All right. If not, I need a motion to accept uh accept this amount for this uh unsuitable soil so we can move forward. [3:12:27, 3:12:28]: So move. So move. [3:12:29, 3:12:30]: Sir a second. [3:12:32, 3:12:33]: Is there a second? [3:12:35, 3:12:36]: A second. [3:12:36, 3:12:38]: Councilman Barber Segmus, any further discussion? [3:12:40, 3:12:40]: Yeah. [3:12:40, 3:12:42]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:12:43, 3:13:00]: Okay, all pose. I pose. Okay, so it's it's four to one. Four four to one it passes. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Carl. Appreciate you. Thank you. You're more than welcome. Stay if you like, sir. I think this is it for you tonight. I think that's it. Okay, all right. Good deal. Take care of yourself. [3:13:01, 3:13:20]: Uh council consideration to award a bid of RFQ number 2020-006-unified development code to the collab collaborative firm in the amount of$100,000. Funding source uh P and Z budget presented by Miss Miller and Miss Moore. Ladies, please. [3:13:21, 3:13:37]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Once again, uh as stated, City Staff is requesting City Council approval of the recommended vendor, the collaborative firm LLC for RFQ number 20206 for the record. City of Stockbridge Consultant Services Preparation of Unified. [3:13:37, 3:13:57]: Development code and approved the agreement with collaborative firm LLC for an amount not to exceed$100,000. The solicitation was posted on the state of Georgia website and solicited to uh approximately 400 vendors. The solicitation was also posted on the city's website and advertised in the Henry Herald. [3:13:57, 3:14:17]: Into the state codes, state of Georgia code, according to the state of Georgia Code. If one if only one responsive and responsible responsible response is received, an award may be made to the single supplier if the issuing offer determines that the price submitted is fair and reasonable. Therefore, city staff is requesting your approval. [3:14:17, 3:14:21]: to award the agreement between the collaborative firm and the city of Stockbridge. [3:14:23, 3:14:30]: Thank you, appreciate it. Uh any questions for uh Miss Miller? Yes, uh Councilman Blount, go ahead please. Uh Miss Um [3:14:31, 3:14:38]: Miller, my understanding because I I asked a question about collaborative, my understanding is that's the only firm that applied. Is that correct? [3:14:39, 3:14:48]: That's correct. It was posted as stated, the solicitation was posted on the state of Georgia's website, the city's website, the Henry Harold, all according to the state statute. [3:14:48, 3:14:49]: Okay. [3:14:49, 3:14:51]: Uh I'd like to make a motion. [3:14:51, 3:14:52]: Go right in, sir. [3:14:52, 3:14:56]: That we move on this I uh item and approve uh [3:14:57, 3:14:57]: Um [3:14:58, 3:14:58]: Claudia. [3:14:59, 3:15:00]: Um collaborative farm. [3:15:01, 3:15:01]: Right. [3:15:02, 3:15:08]: Okay, second the councilman uh councilwoman Gantt. Any further discussion? [3:15:09, 3:15:10]: All favor motion, please indicate. [3:15:12, 3:15:13]: Okay. [3:15:13, 3:15:13]: Okay. [3:15:15, 3:15:18]: All opposed. I'm I'm going to abstain from the vote. [3:15:19, 3:15:20]: Okay. [3:15:20, 3:15:23]: Okay, all all proves to, all pose? [3:15:25, 3:15:26]: Oh [3:15:26, 3:15:27]: I'm sorry. [3:15:28, 3:15:29]: Go ahead, please. [3:15:29, 3:15:30]: Oh man. [3:15:31, 3:15:33]: Someone somebody some someone else is trying to speak. Go ahead. [3:15:34, 3:15:34]: Mayor. [3:15:35, 3:15:36]: And then I weigh in. [3:15:37, 3:15:55]: So I do not agree with um approving the award of a single bidder. I do wanna make a alternate motion. So I don't know at what time I can make that motion. Well right now I'm asking for the motion's been made in the second. I ask them for all people to approve the motion. I [3:15:55, 3:16:00]: Right now I believe I have two people that indicate two council members indicate they're approved and one sustain. [3:16:01, 3:16:04]: Uh is what I understand at this point. Wait on Councilman Thomas. [3:16:05, 3:16:11]: And um right, right. And now Councilman Thomas wants to s uh say something. I want I want to hear the other motion. [3:16:12, 3:16:21]: I have some concerns about this. As y'all probably know, this is one of the issues that I sort of spoke to the first of the year, and it was posted. [3:16:22, 3:16:24]: Um in February [3:16:25, 3:16:28]: Um it was close in march. [3:16:29, 3:16:31]: Here we are in September. [3:16:31, 3:16:35]: Then I hear Mrs. Miller say went out to four hundred vendors. [3:16:37, 3:16:43]: It's just strange out of four hundred vendors, you only get one response. And this is what I saw online. [3:16:43, 3:16:51]: Uh I'm just a little concerned about, you know, process, but I'm going to allow Mrs. uh Barber to [3:16:52, 3:16:58]: I I guess she has an alternate motion and I just need to hear that before I actually vote. Yeah, stand by. Councilman Blount. Go ahead, sir. [3:16:59, 3:17:14]: Mayor, uh with the motion on the floor and obviously it's not gonna pass. It's it's failed. It's actually failed. And that's fine. I just want to make a comment. One of the things we have to continue to look out and be careful and cautious about is that we begin we're getting to be too insinuative about [3:17:15, 3:17:15]: Oh [3:17:16, 3:17:19]: uh things are not being done right or done wrong. [3:17:19, 3:17:23]: uh by staff when staff put out a rf [3:17:23, 3:17:34]: We're not there to govern that RFP. If we s if if if we think that some wrongdoing is being done or whatever with these RFP, we can't insinuate that it is through our actions on on this call. [3:17:35, 3:17:39]: Uh saying you you know, when we if if it was four hundred that went out. [3:17:40, 3:17:43]: Then we can't sit here and question that as staff. [3:17:43, 3:17:49]: You know, it's it's what I'll put it this way, you can question whatever you want to. It's just not proper for us to continue. [3:17:49, 3:17:52]: To throw staff on the bus right here in public. [3:17:53, 3:18:09]: If you got questions for staff, that's why we pick up phones. That's why we come. All of these questions and everything can be answered prior to these meetings. This is not the place to lit uh learn or talk up or talk down about things you're concerned about with staff. That's why we have meetings outside of this. [3:18:10, 3:18:22]: But if if if staff say that they're do uh this is the only person that applied, then why we can't just believe that? If you don't believe it, then we need to d investigate staff outside of this. [3:18:22, 3:18:32]: Mr. Mayor, Mayor Samuel please. Ms. Camp, please make her a motion. Okay, Mayor, I I'm sorry, Mayor, I I believe there was a motion. [3:18:32, 3:18:37]: And I made by councilman Blount, I second the motion. [3:18:37, 3:18:39]: Councilman Alexander Abstain. [3:18:40, 3:18:41]: Um castle warm and [3:18:42, 3:18:48]: uh R uh Barber said no and counsel man I'm not for sure what Mayor Pro Tem said. [3:18:49, 3:18:53]: But whatever the case may be, we have a vote on the floor [3:18:53, 3:18:58]: And it seems like it's two two and you would be breaking the tie. It's on you, Mayor. [3:18:59, 3:19:11]: Well I what actually there's five votes cast, so there's not a tie. Oh yeah. Well what what what how's how are there five votes cast? If there were one abstention [3:19:12, 3:19:24]: One, I don't know what Mayor Pro Tem voted yet, but myself and Councilman Blount voted to move forward. And m Ms. Barber said no. And if even if Mr. T Mayor Pro Tem says no, that's two two. [3:19:25, 3:19:25]: So [3:19:26, 3:19:37]: There's a tie. Are we still in the discussion about the well actually what it is? No, we voted Mr Williams Mr. Williams needs to weigh on this up because it's five votes cast. [3:19:37, 3:19:44]: Mr. Talman said he was not in favor. I took that as a no, but he needs to say what his vote is then. [3:19:45, 3:19:47]: I I want I wanted to get [3:19:47, 3:19:48]: I w Mr. [3:19:48, 3:19:58]: Go ahead, Ms. Wee. The Mayor Pro Tem hasn't voted yet. He said he wanted to hear uh whatever form of the motion was. He hasn't voted yet. [3:19:58, 3:20:04]: Um now the mayor did say that it didn't pass and and that's his [3:20:04, 3:20:24]: um privilege as the presiding officer to state that and and y'all can appeal his his ruling. Oh I I would appeal my own ruling on that. If I'm if if if if if you got one sustain substation substantive God can't get it out. Substack almost sustain yeah sustaining uh then then we then we got two four and [3:20:24, 3:20:31]: And Barber says no and okay, so where pro Tam, where does he stand on this? I mean are we going to have discussion about this? [3:20:32, 3:20:38]: We've already had We already had discussion on it. Uh we are we already had discussion really. [3:20:39, 3:20:39]: Because [3:20:40, 3:20:44]: Councilman Blount initially made the motion without any discussion. [3:20:45, 3:20:49]: I want to be heard here. We've had a discussion. [3:20:50, 3:21:10]: So whenever involved do your voting and finalize the vote. Mayor point of order. Okay, hold on. Okay. We're trying to establish now what the vote count is. Everyone is voted except Mayor Pro Tem. If Mayor Pro Tem is not for the point of order is that now is it's it's in your pa hand to determine who gets this vote. [3:21:10, 3:21:18]: If I can get a point of order, I I don't think discussion was asked for. I do know it was motion. [3:21:18, 3:21:20]: It was circuit. [3:21:20, 3:21:23]: But I don't think you asked for discussion. You asked for the vote. [3:21:24, 3:21:39]: No, no, he asked for this. No, he asked for discussion because I asked L I asked Ms. Lindell in the discussion phase about how many people applied. And she told me and she said that that the collaborative firm was the only one. That was doing discussion. [3:21:39, 3:21:46]: I can't that was doing the discussion right there. And so it was it was it was voted on second, and that was the discussion phase. [3:21:48, 3:21:50]: All right. Let's okay, let's back up for a second. [3:21:51, 3:21:51]: All right. [3:21:52, 3:21:54]: Miss Barber, you have something you still need to say. [3:21:54, 3:21:55]: Is that what it is that right? [3:21:56, 3:21:58]: Absolutely. Go ahead. What's your comment? [3:21:59, 3:22:00]: This item [3:22:00, 3:22:05]: Is being presented as a request for quote uh [3:22:05, 3:22:07]: Requests for qualifications. [3:22:07, 3:22:10]: Let's be clear, it's not a request for a proposal. [3:22:11, 3:22:14]: This is a request for qualification. [3:22:15, 3:22:16]: Yes. [3:22:17, 3:22:19]: Із а ту степ процес. [3:22:20, 3:22:36]: So the fact that we've skipped all over the request for a proposal process and have gone straight from a request for qualification to now an award of one single bid concerns me. [3:22:37, 3:22:37]: A mayor. [3:22:37, 3:22:39]: Conversation with [3:22:39, 3:22:41]: Mr. Knighton just last week. [3:22:42, 3:22:46]: And what I suggested is that we would table this item. [3:22:46, 3:22:47]: Table it. [3:22:48, 3:22:52]: Just as we did the last item, the janitorial service. [3:22:53, 3:22:55]: When it comes to [3:22:55, 3:23:06]: Items such as this, we need to make sure that we are being fair and transparent about the way we do business and about the way we govern. [3:23:08, 3:23:12]: Miss Miller understands exactly what I mean. We have to make a [3:23:13, 3:23:14]: Good day. [3:23:14, 3:23:18]: in advertising all of these solicitations. [3:23:18, 3:23:20]: [12200.3, 12201.5]: That you go through. [3:23:22, 3:23:25]: This was not solicited as an RP. [3:23:25, 3:23:41]: It was advertised as a request for pro request for qualifications. I want to see us use more than two or three methods of advertising going forward for all solicitations, including [3:23:41, 3:23:42]: This one. [3:23:42, 3:23:43]: Um [3:23:44, 3:23:53]: I want to see us use at least four or five um methods for advertising. Whenever there is one bid that has been submitted. [3:23:54, 3:24:04]: We need to see all of the supporting documents, the tabulations, um, the evaluations, everything that was used to um [3:24:05, 3:24:25]: Make this award. But because there's only one bidder, I like to see us table this to allow staff another 60 days to re-advertise this. And if within 60 days she's received at least three responders, then she can bring it back to us. But 60 days [3:24:25, 3:24:30]: will give us until the very first council meeting in November. [3:24:30, 3:24:36]: If by November, if there has not been at least [3:24:36, 3:24:42]: Three responsive bidders to this. I've asked Mr. Knighton. We've had this conversation extensively. [3:24:43, 3:24:43]: It [3:24:44, 3:24:48]: For all solicitations going forward, if at least three [3:24:49, 3:25:01]: potential bidders have not submitted proposals, then I'm asking that policies be changed to allow um procurement to extend the debt. [3:25:01, 3:25:12]: before the deadline of the bid closes for another 30 days to show good faith effort in advertising for these types of projects. [3:25:13, 3:25:21]: I don't feel comfortable with just awarding a contract to one single bidder in which this solicitation. [3:25:21, 3:25:27]: as a request for quality qualification was only advertised for 30 days. [3:25:27, 3:25:28]: That is not long enough. [3:25:29, 3:25:30]: That is [3:25:30, 3:25:31]: My comment. [3:25:32, 3:25:36]: Mr Mr Blood. Go ahead, Calvin Blount. [3:25:37, 3:25:41]: We have to understand and realize we have a city manager to manage the city. [3:25:42, 3:26:00]: We're the elective body. When a RFQ goes out, just like we did with the amphitheater, those qualifying companies came in and they qualified. Then an RFP was put out to to see which one of those companies we was gonna choose. Stop me anytime, Miss Uh Moore or Ms. Lindale, if I'm speaking wrong. [3:26:01, 3:26:03]: The process is there. [3:26:03, 3:26:04]: Already. [3:26:05, 3:26:12]: We have to understand that when we sit here and a process has been put to the to the staff, whether it's the city manager or any other staff member. [3:26:13, 3:26:25]: If they go by what, if they go by the procedure and get things done, we can't continue to sit on these Zoom calls belittling staff and what they're doing. [3:26:25, 3:26:31]: And talk about a process that don't even exist. An RFQ has to go out before RFP. [3:26:31, 3:26:51]: Okay, because the RFQ gonna tell you what companies are qualified in order to establish an RLP to figure out which company you're gonna use. We can't continue to sit here and try to be the city manager, be uh the pup uh community development director, be procurement. We we're the we're the elected budget. [3:26:51, 3:27:06]: body, not the city manager. I think it's a beliterment to the city manager to continually question where he should be questioning staff. I think it's a beliterment to staff to continue to question the process that they're going through. [3:27:06, 3:27:11]: Nobody's here is trying to hurt this city and to to and to continue to insinuate. [3:27:12, 3:27:24]: and belittle what staff is doing and call them to the forefront every move they'll make, then maybe we not maybe those people that are doing it shouldn't be elected official. Maybe you should be staff doing it. [3:27:24, 3:27:36]: But this is getting out of hand. It's getting totally ridiculous. We're questioning everything and we're putting it off to another week. I'm not, we shouldn't have to sit here all night because we're not allowing staff to do what staff is hired to do. [3:27:37, 3:27:38]: Simple as that. [3:27:38, 3:27:42]: Maple Tim Thomas, go ahead, sir. I I wanna respond to [3:27:44, 3:27:45]: My duty [3:27:46, 3:27:48]: And my right and my authority. [3:27:49, 3:27:54]: Now I have attempted to call staff on a number of occasions. [3:27:55, 3:27:57]: before meetings and ask questions. [3:27:58, 3:27:59]: And I'm gonna say this. [3:28:00, 3:28:00]: Um [3:28:01, 3:28:03]: I did not get a truthful answer. [3:28:03, 3:28:06]: So I would not call [3:28:06, 3:28:09]: Well, I won't say I would not call before a meeting again. [3:28:10, 3:28:12]: But I resent the fact that um [3:28:12, 3:28:14]: Well, I did attempt it to [3:28:14, 3:28:16]: Uh I didn't get truth of information. [3:28:17, 3:28:24]: And so therefore, um I you know, I'm I'm not leaning toward calling again. But I'll say this though. [3:28:24, 3:28:28]: The city council, we we are we are policy makers. [3:28:29, 3:28:32]: Staff are hired to carry out [3:28:33, 3:28:35]: The directives of the city council. [3:28:37, 3:28:38]: Damn. [3:28:38, 3:28:39]: Gills [3:28:39, 3:28:41]: Рекомендаються [3:28:41, 3:28:43]: And suggestions. [3:28:44, 3:28:46]: We as a council do not have to take that. [3:28:47, 3:28:51]: When they give a recommendation and a suggestion [3:28:52, 3:28:54]: That job and that duty is done. [3:28:55, 3:28:57]: It is up to the council. [3:28:57, 3:29:00]: To decide whether you accept [3:29:00, 3:29:02]: Or reject. [3:29:02, 3:29:09]: their recommendation or their suggestion. So let's just be clear about this. We are the policymakers. [3:29:09, 3:29:14]: Staff are hired to carry out the directive of the city council. [3:29:14, 3:29:30]: So um again, I I have attempted on a number of occasions, and I'm not gonna throw up, you know, old dirt, but I have attempted to call beforehand because that was always one of my pet peeves about calling and getting all of my questions answered before. [3:29:30, 3:29:47]: But if I don't get, you know, in my opinion, I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, but in my opinion, if I don't get a truthful answer and I could and I could bag that up if I have to, but I'm not gonna get into that at this point in time. And I think there's several staff members that know exactly what I'm talking about. [3:29:48, 3:30:08]: So um I'm not gonna never shook my duty and my responsibility as an elected official. And I have a right to ask questions any kind of way I wanna ask when I wanna ask, as well to each and every one of us. So I don't I do not try to dictate to anyone else the way they govern themselves. And no one is going to govern the way uh [3:30:08, 3:30:11]: uh uh where I govern myself. And that's just a fact. [3:30:12, 3:30:14]: I miss Barber, go ahead. [3:30:17, 3:30:18]: Good afternoon, Mayor. May I speak? [3:30:19, 3:30:22]: That you will stand by one second. Stand by. Miss Barber, go ahead. [3:30:22, 3:30:24]: No, I yield to Miss Miller. [3:30:24, 3:30:25]: Go ahead, Miss Miller. [3:30:25, 3:30:26]: Um [3:30:27, 3:30:36]: The um Councilman Thomas is actually correct. You have a recommendation by staff in front of you based on a solicitation process that was fair. [3:30:37, 3:30:40]: That was open and that was transparent. [3:30:40, 3:30:43]: And that followed every guideline according to state. [3:30:44, 3:30:45]: And municipal. [3:30:45, 3:30:46]: Char um statute. [3:30:48, 3:30:49]: I have [3:30:49, 3:30:51]: In the time that I've been here. [3:30:51, 3:30:52]: Done more solicitations. [3:30:53, 3:30:54]: And have [3:30:55, 3:30:58]: Дун майст, гевін ди. [3:30:58, 3:31:00]: One hundred and fifty percent. [3:31:01, 3:31:04]: Of my time to get the job done. [3:31:05, 3:31:07]: I will not have my integrity. [3:31:08, 3:31:08]: Questions. [3:31:10, 3:31:12]: Everything about this process has been fair. [3:31:13, 3:31:15]: Solicitation was posted. [3:31:15, 3:31:17]: Аккордити. [3:31:17, 3:31:18]: According to our statute. [3:31:19, 3:31:21]: The pre-bid was done. [3:31:21, 3:31:22]: according to the statute. [3:31:22, 3:31:31]: If you read the solicitation, it provides the evaluation criteria in which a vendor knows how they're going to be evaluated. [3:31:32, 3:31:39]: I have never received a call from a councilman or a council person that I was untruthful about. I don't know what that is about. [3:31:40, 3:31:54]: My process, and I've been doing this for a very long time, I am a certified public procurement officer, earned my stripes. And I can tell you I can take this solicitation in court with anyone, any day. [3:31:55, 3:31:58]: This process was done fair. It was done open. [3:31:59, 3:32:07]: What you have in front of you today is a recommendation based on the solicit on the process, not on my integrity. [3:32:07, 3:32:09]: I think that it's unfair. [3:32:09, 3:32:13]: That staff is treated and talked to in a demeaning manner. [3:32:14, 3:32:16]: But if that is how. [3:32:16, 3:32:35]: You feel that you should talk to us, then that's fine. But what you have in front of you is a recommendation. You can choose not to approve it or approve it. It matters nothing to me. What matters to me is I come in and I do a job and I do it fair and I do it with integrity. [3:32:35, 3:32:42]: What I'm asking council right now is city staff is asking to approve a recommendation. [3:32:42, 3:32:46]: for collaborative firm. That's all. Not my integrity. [3:32:47, 3:32:50]: Okay, Miss Barber, stand by folks. Miss Barber, go ahead. [3:32:52, 3:32:52]: Yeah. [3:32:53, 3:32:56]: I didn't have a comment. I didn't write. Okay, they're Pro Tem Thomas. [3:32:56, 3:33:02]: Well let me be clear on my comments and uh I I have never called Mrs. Miller and asked her any question. [3:33:03, 3:33:04]: So um [3:33:04, 3:33:08]: I have never questioned her integrity, uh, not at all. [3:33:08, 3:33:09]: But I will [3:33:10, 3:33:12]: They'll continue to state that [3:33:12, 3:33:19]: When staff make a recommendation or a suggestion, we don't have to take it. I mean that's just the bottom line. And that's that's all I'm saying right here. [3:33:19, 3:33:21]: Uh is that you know, you make a [3:33:21, 3:33:30]: Your job is to make a recommendation and to make a request. It is our duty to accept or reject. And that's all I'm gonna say on that. But when I made reference to [3:33:31, 3:33:33]: Мімики на колти став. [3:33:34, 3:33:37]: uh on another issue or even about this issue [3:33:38, 3:33:51]: Uh that was not about you. You know yourself. I have never called you and asked you a question. So I don't know who you're referring to about uh insulting your intelligence because it wasn't me because I never called you and asked you the question. I I think um [3:33:52, 3:34:08]: The two staff members that I've had this discussion with, they know exactly who they are. I think this council even knows about the issue that when it happened back in uh early January. So uh it has nothing to do with you, uh uh Ms. Mills. But I I but I just wanna make it clear though that [3:34:09, 3:34:13]: We accept or reject staff recommendations all the time. [3:34:13, 3:34:18]: Uh and I mean and and that's just just clear. That's just the nature of of um [3:34:18, 3:34:20]: municipal government, so [3:34:20, 3:34:24]: I don't think in any of my comments I have belittle you. [3:34:24, 3:34:34]: or even insinuate that you have not been truthful. So I don't I'm not really sure where you're coming from on on that particular end. But all I'm just saying is that [3:34:34, 3:34:35]: Um [3:34:36, 3:34:40]: elected body don't have to take the suggestion or recommendation. [3:34:41, 3:34:49]: And I mean and that just and that's just municipal government. But I I just want to just say this now, I I'm familiar with the collaborative firm. [3:34:50, 3:34:56]: Um, I don't have a problem with them. And and actually, you know, I was going to uh approve of this myself. [3:34:57, 3:35:06]: But I'm just saying though, and I think what Mrs. Barber and the reason I wanted to hear what Mrs. Barber was saying, because just like she indicated with the landscaping company. [3:35:06, 3:35:19]: with the uh janitorial, it was only one bid and I think we all of us agreed that we would just send that back out based on the fact that it was only one. So I don't know how we can sort of just pick and choose [3:35:20, 3:35:31]: uh on those two particular uh cases, but that was only one entry and now we're we still only have one entry and now when we want to send this one back, you know, all hair, all hair break loose. [3:35:31, 3:35:32]: But I'm just saying. [3:35:33, 3:35:35]: Okay, Miss Ken, go ahead, please. [3:35:35, 3:35:42]: Thank you. Um, Mayor Pro Tem, I appreciate your comments and I I personally [3:35:42, 3:35:47]: Um hope that I don't offend staff. I do rely on your expertise in the fields that you [3:35:48, 3:35:50]: Um we're hard. [3:35:50, 3:35:51]: Four. [3:35:51, 3:35:58]: And it is true that we definitely can choose to approve, accept, or reject, or or say try again. [3:35:58, 3:35:59]: And [3:36:00, 3:36:11]: I I think if you look at the history in the past couple of months since January of what's been going on here, there's always been an issue continuously lately with procurement. [3:36:12, 3:36:15]: For whatever reason, and and I don't understand that reason. [3:36:16, 3:36:17]: Um however [3:36:18, 3:36:19]: During the presentation [3:36:20, 3:36:26]: um that procurement discussed. They discussed putting the advertisement in the state. [3:36:27, 3:36:30]: Where there were four hundred available vendors. [3:36:31, 3:36:34]: to be able to, you know, apply for this position. [3:36:34, 3:36:37]: Um, Mayor Protein, you're correct that [3:36:37, 3:36:55]: you know, the janitorial service and the other th other um things that we sent back because they had one bid. But they didn't go without a debate that we're doing the same thing we're doing now because I'm very aware that I was totally against going back. [3:36:55, 3:37:02]: I think that there's always been a process [3:37:03, 3:37:07]: And you know, if those things are gonna need to be changed [3:37:07, 3:37:09]: Then [3:37:10, 3:37:21]: it's gonna take, you know, the on what that process looks like. Curam officer, what I'm not. Um, I literally think, um, in addition to that, just an example of something we did [3:37:22, 3:37:26]: At the very last meeting we had an opportunity to go ahead and get a dump truck that we needed. [3:37:27, 3:37:30]: But we did. We held back. [3:37:30, 3:37:32]: on a beard, on something that was [3:37:33, 3:37:34]: Thirty something years old. [3:37:35, 3:37:40]: after they tried to keep saying in in as much discreet way they could [3:37:40, 3:37:43]: that we bad so badly needed a vehicle. [3:37:44, 3:37:47]: When are we gonna just, you know, get those things moving? [3:37:48, 3:37:52]: Um councilman Alexander, you might get things moving. Let's keep moving. [3:37:53, 3:37:57]: I feel like we are debating and wasting our time. [3:37:57, 3:38:01]: On things that need to take place. [3:38:01, 3:38:10]: From RFQ to RFP, if whether you know what those are and the processes that they are, we have to trust our staff that they're doing their job. [3:38:10, 3:38:12]: And to Mayor Ford. [3:38:13, 3:38:16]: We went around and about. [3:38:16, 3:38:18]: And around and about. [3:38:18, 3:38:19]: I made a motion. [3:38:20, 3:38:35]: Councilman Blount as Councilman Blount made a motion, I seconded. We actually took a vote. Councilman Alexander abstained. We were waiting on Councilman um we were waiting on Mayor Pro Tem to vote. You wanted to hear what Councilman Barber had stated? [3:38:36, 3:38:46]: And here we are. We're still discussing even after we basically took a vote. And it's from my understanding, based off of what I've read. [3:38:47, 3:38:50]: Um on Robert's rules that if there's a a a abstention [3:38:51, 3:38:53]: That means that vote does not count. [3:38:53, 3:39:02]: And you have a two two, then you have the ability to break a tie. I understand. So are you s I'm going to I mean I'll break the time. I'll go ahead and break the time with the mayor. [3:39:02, 3:39:06]: You do what now, sir? I'll go ahead and break the tire. I I just wanted to get my comments out. [3:39:07, 3:39:12]: Uh but in in that uh and I'm going to vote uh in favor, but let me say this. [3:39:12, 3:39:13]: Um [3:39:14, 3:39:18]: think it's what I've heard and what I've been hearing lately that [3:39:18, 3:39:19]: Um [3:39:20, 3:39:35]: There need to be some reform, I believe, in the um procurement process. It has nothing to do with staff. That's see that that's that's what I'm I'm trying to get over. It has nothing to do with staff. It it's about [3:39:35, 3:39:37]: Um the process. [3:39:38, 3:39:41]: Which has nothing to do with staff, it's it's about the process. [3:39:41, 3:39:54]: And and and y'all know I'm always talking about process and protocol and things like that. But I'll just say this. I'll go ahead and and and and vote in favor, but I will suggest this, and I think we're gonna have to come back. [3:39:55, 3:39:57]: And I think we're gonna have to look at uh procure [3:39:57, 3:40:05]: As well as some other things. And I won't get into the document that I left in everybody's box. I won't get into that. But [3:40:05, 3:40:10]: Uh I'm about moving forward. It's no doubt about that. And and I have some concern about [3:40:11, 3:40:13]: The moving forward of this city. [3:40:13, 3:40:27]: Uh but I I'll go ahead uh and and and just go forward with this and vote in favor. Why why don't we make this may we make it nice and clean? We'll redo it to vote, make sure we got it nice and clean. Miss Barber, you k you kept having your hand up. You got anything else you need to say? [3:40:28, 3:40:28]: I do. [3:40:28, 3:40:29]: Go ahead. [3:40:30, 3:40:35]: То I want to make sure that Miss Miller understands this is not a personal attack on you. [3:40:35, 3:40:38]: I know that Miss More told me earlier this year. [3:40:39, 3:40:44]: after my initial meeting with you that Mr. Knighton no longer wanted me to speak with you. [3:40:45, 3:41:00]: So my communications about the procurement processes and understanding the policies, which is why I was asking about the purchasing manuals. If you don't know, my my background is in purchasing as well. [3:41:01, 3:41:16]: Me asking questions is simply trying to understand how the city operates and how the procurement processes operate. So it is not a attack on you. It is simply for me. [3:41:16, 3:41:32]: to begin the conversations with my colleagues about our procurement processes. We must be fair and transparent about the way we govern and about the way we do business. That has nothing to do with you, Ms. Miller. [3:41:32, 3:41:36]: You are a consummate professional and have been. [3:41:36, 3:41:38]: I just want to be real clear. [3:41:39, 3:41:42]: This was an item that I addressed with Mr. Knighton. [3:41:42, 3:41:43]: Just last week. [3:41:44, 3:41:47]: I have a real problem with approving [3:41:47, 3:41:50]: Um an award with only [3:41:50, 3:41:51]: One bitter. [3:41:51, 3:41:55]: And the fact that this solicitation was only out for 30 days. [3:41:56, 3:41:59]: I don't believe that we're using um [3:41:59, 3:42:00]: Um [3:42:01, 3:42:21]: Enough methods to advertise these solicitations. So I want us to consider more ways to advertise. I mentioned earlier this year direct mailers. We need to do that. I know Georgia Cities, they also help with soliciting advertisements as well. We need to expand our [3:42:21, 3:42:41]: base and getting more people involved in our solicitations and submitting proposals for us. I am not in support of continuing to use point of order that we've been using for years. Hang on um councilman Blount I do not point of order. We're not here to [3:42:41, 3:43:01]: Talk about policies. We're here to vote on this. If we may have point of order, stand by. Hold on a second, please. But let it finish and we'll go to the mayor. You have to listen to my point of order. Whether you deny it or not, you're supposed to listen to my point of order. What's your point order? My point of order is is that we're sitting here [3:43:01, 3:43:04]: Right now three one one boat. [3:43:05, 3:43:25]: We're sitting here right now with three one one vote. No matter how many times Councilman Blount and Councilwoman Ganttz, you will not talk over me and try to dis um disqualify me or not acknowledge. [3:43:25, 3:43:42]: Me. I am good. Talk to I didn't say a word to you. You better get it together. I do not care about what you all hold on. I will stick with the my issue is the procurement process point of order. [3:43:43, 3:43:57]: I wanna make sure we are fair. Mayor, I'm calling for a point of order. And I want us to make sure that we review our procurement at some point in time, Mayor, you're gonna say Keep my name out your mouth, because I didn't say nothing to you. You a liar. [3:43:58, 3:44:05]: Stop going around lying. You lie every chance you get. Commute it. Unmute. [3:44:05, 3:44:25]: Stop. You're muted. Every chance you get to lie. And so do you. I am so, so terribly disappointed. All right, hold, hold, stop, folks. Let's stop. Stop. Let's stop the stop all this. I'm not even saying anything. That's what gives me. Can you mute everybody? [3:44:25, 3:44:28]: Except for the mayor, please. [3:44:32, 3:44:35]: Well obviously we didn't need uh all right. Thank you. Okay, listen. [3:44:35, 3:44:36]: What we're gonna do. [3:44:37, 3:44:43]: I w I've uh uh I know Mayor Pro Temp said he wanted to uh vote for this. We'll we'll start this clean. Motion is made and seconded. [3:44:44, 3:44:57]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. Raise your hand. All in favor raise your hand if you're in favor of the motion. Aye. I can't raise, you can't see me. Aye. All right. One in favor of the motion. Two. Three. All right. All opposed. [3:44:58, 3:45:05]: Okay, uh sustain. We still gotta sustain. Okay, so it's three one one. Motion passes. All right, we'll move on. [3:45:07, 3:45:07]: Thank you. [3:45:08, 3:45:20]: Council consideration to approve the Carter and Sloop Task Order number 23 for annual watershed monitoring and reporting years twenty twenty-one to twenty twenty-three in an amount of sixty-one thousand two hundred dollars. [3:45:20, 3:45:26]: Funding source sewer budget presented by Destus Aaron and uh Brad Holzinger, please. [3:45:27, 3:45:39]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. I'll let Mr. Holzinger take the lead on this, but this is required by federal and state law that we monitor the stream that we're discharging our wastewater into and I'll let Mr. Holtzinger speak. [3:45:40, 3:45:56]: Uh I'll be as brief as possible. Uh watershed monitoring training is a collection of data uh for to determine water quality throughout our community. It could be streams, lakes, what have you. [3:45:58, 3:46:18]: It's not something so much associated with the sewer department. Uh the EPD puts it in our permits to force the city to do this. And it's just a way for them to get somebody to do it and they don't have to, I feel. But besides that, uh Carter and Sloop. [3:46:18, 3:46:28]: has done it for the past three years and they're willing to hold their price at what it was the past three years. And I recommend that we do it. [3:46:30, 3:46:36]: All right. Council, any question for Mr. Holsinger at all or Mr. Aaron about this proposal, this task order? [3:46:40, 3:46:41]: And Eugene. [3:46:42, 3:46:46]: If if if you got everybody muted, unmute them so that they can speak on this issue if they need to speak. [3:46:49, 3:46:52]: There was no comments. Okay, no comments. [3:46:53, 3:46:56]: Then I need a mo I'm gonna need a motion to accept this task order. [3:47:00, 3:47:01]: I need'em [3:47:02, 3:47:05]: If you all will be able to raise your hands, he can unmute you. [3:47:09, 3:47:11]: I okay so moved. [3:47:11, 3:47:14]: Okay, motion I need a motion, actual motion. [3:47:14, 3:47:15]: Mm. [3:47:15, 3:47:20]: So some move the motion. Is there a second? [3:47:21, 3:47:25]: Second. Second, Mr. Thomas. Okay. Any further discussion? [3:47:25, 3:47:27]: And if not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:47:29, 3:47:31]: All right, seemed like it is unanimous. Okay, fantastic. [3:47:32, 3:47:39]: Council consideration to approve an ordinance requiring the use of masks and face coverings in public during COVID nineteen outbreak. Mr. Williams, please. [3:47:40, 3:47:49]: Mr. Mayor, before uh I think this is the last agenda item, before we discuss it, there's a matter that uh needs the council's attention. Um [3:47:49, 3:48:02]: As you all will remember, you uh approved an ordinance we we call it the business limitation ordinance uh last year that provided for spacing for certain types of businesses and numerical limitations on others. [3:48:02, 3:48:22]: uh among the businesses were vape shops. Um it's come to my attention that there's some concern about cigar bars and hookah bars which uh weren't um specifically covered under that ordinance. And and if if those concerns are are uh the share by the entire council, my suggestion [3:48:22, 3:48:28]: suggestion would be that you entertain the adoption of a moratorium on those types of businesses. [3:48:28, 3:48:32]: So that staff can bring back back a recommendation on how [3:48:32, 3:48:36]: Or whether to include those as part of your business limitation ordinance. [3:48:38, 3:48:42]: All right. So um so this is you're adding an agenda item is what you're doing right now, it seems like. [3:48:43, 3:48:47]: The i i if that's the will of the council to consider a moratorium, y yes, sir. [3:48:50, 3:48:55]: Well we we c uh uh we could have adopted this first thing first thing when we started the meeting, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [3:48:57, 3:49:02]: So so so with the hookah bars and bait bars and and cigar bars, you're saying that [3:49:02, 3:49:04]: It would be a mor memorial with spacing it. [3:49:05, 3:49:07]: They're just you just add them to the list. [3:49:07, 3:49:11]: G th if that's what council ultimately wanted to do, yes sir. [3:49:11, 3:49:12]: I'm I'm for it. [3:49:14, 3:49:17]: Any other comments from the council in reference to this item? [3:49:20, 3:49:26]: So otherwise uh well you uh it seemed like we need a we need a vote to add it to the list? Yeah, we yeah, we I would think we need a vote to need a yeah. [3:49:27, 3:49:30]: So so I need a m uh motion uh to um [3:49:30, 3:49:35]: Well, we need a motion. We need a motion to add this to the agenda and then a motion to vote on this, I would imagine. [3:49:37, 3:49:41]: Right, Mr. Turney's. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's what council wanted to do. Yes, sir. [3:49:42, 3:49:45]: So first of all I need a motion to add this issue to the agenda, first of all. [3:49:46, 3:49:50]: Mayor, I wanted to add the uh to the agenda, the um [3:49:50, 3:49:52]: proposal to [3:49:52, 3:49:57]: At hookah bars and cigar bars to the memorial. [3:49:57, 3:49:59]: Oh, is there s is there a second? [3:50:01, 3:50:02]: Is there a second? [3:50:03, 3:50:10]: I second. Mayor Pro Thomas seconds that. All right. Any further discussion? That was Mayor Pro Tem Thomas? That's correct. Okay. [3:50:13, 3:50:17]: If no further conversation uh conversation, all in favor of adding this to the agenda, please indicate. [3:50:19, 3:50:20]: Want to [3:50:23, 3:50:25]: Three. I got three. All polls. [3:50:26, 3:50:27]: Sustain. [3:50:29, 3:50:37]: Well then the only thing would would need to be a a potential motion to uh adopt a moratorium on those uh [3:50:37, 3:50:44]: on hookah bars and cigar bars for usually we do those for uh ninety to a hundred and twenty days. [3:50:44, 3:50:57]: I approve uh so move. So move, so second. Uh mayor, real quick, am I correct that there was no vote from Councilman Alexander or Councilwoman Barber? Yeah, they didn't I didn't indicate I didn't see a vote from the case. Okay. I just wanted to make sure that was correct. Right. [3:50:59, 3:51:04]: So uh I need a motion to uh to I'd say so move. Okay, is there a second? [3:51:04, 3:51:05]: I've seen it again. [3:51:05, 3:51:13]: All right. Uh give Gantt, give it to Gantt second. Okay. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor that motion please indicate. [3:51:15, 3:51:17]: Okay. All pose. [3:51:18, 3:51:19]: Sustained. [3:51:20, 3:51:23]: All right, so sustain. So I got three zero one. [3:51:25, 3:51:31]: Well, I don't have a vote from Councilman Alexander, which isn't. I mean this. [3:51:32, 3:51:34]: He sustains. So three zero two. [3:51:34, 3:51:35]: All right. Now. [3:51:36, 3:51:41]: Okay, I uh sorry about that, Mr. Mayor, and I appreciate your indulgence. Um [3:51:42, 3:51:49]: So you have in front of you a uh the model ordinance that GMA uh produced. [3:51:49, 3:51:58]: uh in the aftermath of the legal dispute between the governor and the mayor of Atlanta regarding whether the city of Atlanta could adopt [3:51:59, 3:52:06]: uh a an an order requiring the wearing of masks throughout the city of Atlanta. As you will recall, the governor [3:52:07, 3:52:13]: uh uh filed a lawsuit saying that her order um violated his executive order. [3:52:13, 3:52:33]: He has since withdrawn that in favor of an executive order that uh essentially allows businesses uh to opt out of any local uh ordinance or order that provides for mandatory masks. So this uh um ordinance which has been prepared by uh GM. [3:52:33, 3:52:53]: May to try to balance those two competing issues provides for a mandatory mask policy for people while they are in public. But there are exceptions in this ordinance. [3:52:53, 3:52:56]: So I I can walk through those briefly. [3:52:56, 3:53:05]: Um and then it we'll we'll see what the council's uh desire is. But that but again it requires that all persons at any public [3:53:05, 3:53:08]: a place where a facial mask [3:53:08, 3:53:11]: Or covering over the mouth and nose at all times. [3:53:11, 3:53:17]: where uh they can't be uh physically um distant um in order to [3:53:17, 3:53:20]: You know, maintain an ability to uh [3:53:20, 3:53:22]: Prevent the spread of ковід найтін. [3:53:23, 3:53:43]: But it does provide for a number of of uh instances where it's not required. Uh among those are obviously in personal vehicles and and in personal residences. Um when you are uh when a person is alone in an enclosed space, even if it it might be in public, but if they're alone, they don't have to wear a mask. [3:53:44, 3:53:49]: If there are any uh religious uh objections, um certainly while eating and drinking. [3:53:50, 3:53:54]: Um and then there are there are a number of other of the normal types of um [3:53:54, 3:54:03]: exemptions including medical uh uh exemptions uh exemptions for children under ten that are not required to wear masks but are encouraged to [3:54:04, 3:54:19]: Um and then if you are generally outdoors and maintaining social distancing. So for instance, if it's a person who is uh in the park by themselves, not near anyone, then under this ordinance they would not be required to wear a mask. [3:54:19, 3:54:28]: Um and so those are the general exemptions. Um and there's a a s business specific exemption that uh that basically states that [3:54:29, 3:54:37]: A business can um uh opt out of the ordinance if they so note that in [3:54:37, 3:54:57]: uh clear legible writing on a sign in the front of the business that says that the business does not consent to any enforcement of the of the ordinance. And I've actually seen those in other cities where uh where they've adopted the ordinances similar to this. I've seen businesses actually have that sign um in the business. [3:54:57, 3:55:05]: Even though the majority of businesses are requiring masks or encouraging masks, some businesses are choosing to opt out. And so that's in this ordinary. [3:55:06, 3:55:13]: Um consistent with what the governor's executive orders provided and again what GMA is suggesting is a a model ordinance. [3:55:14, 3:55:24]: Um, what the ordinance does provide is that uh if a person is not wearing a mask in violation of the ordinance, that they're supposed to first be given a warning. [3:55:25, 3:55:40]: Um and then if after a warning if they persist then a a citation can be issued. The first uh penalty is a twenty-five dollar fine, and then any subsequent penalties to the same person would be a fifty dollar fine. Um [3:55:40, 3:55:42]: The uh [3:55:43, 3:55:47]: The uh there was one other item, um [3:55:50, 3:55:55]: Oh, and and the the last uh provision I wanna point out is [3:55:55, 3:55:56]: The uh [3:55:56, 3:56:06]: there would be no violations issued to businesses or or uh uh corporate entities under this. So all any violation would be personal. So if if a person [3:56:07, 3:56:13]: Whether they're in a business or somewhere else is not wearing a mask, that person decided and not the business. [3:56:13, 3:56:22]: And so that's what has been um proposed by GMA as a potential ordinance for any city that wish to explore this. [3:56:22, 3:56:42]: Um there there is not at least not from me. I and I can't speak for the rest of the staff, but um I'm presenting this to you sort of at at the request of members of council. I don't have a firm recommendation primarily because of the enforcement side of this. Um we only have two code enforcement officers and [3:56:42, 3:57:00]: and it it presents an issue in terms of of enforcement that's difficult for cities like Stockbridge that don't have a police force. Um and so but again if it that that's the will of the council, obviously we will follow whatever council's desire is on this matter. So [3:57:00, 3:57:03]: At at with that I will leave it up to any questions. [3:57:04, 3:57:24]: Well here's what uh I'll start this off. Here's what I what also this uh particular ordinance uh indicates, uh the sense of of uh and the the governor's uh order as well in reference to uh wearing masks, mandatory wearing masks on city facilities and buildings when we open up our buildings in this aspect as well. I will acknowledge if [3:57:24, 3:57:31]: If I understand right, that is part of that process uh to to have on this ordinance. I also acknowledge the fact that I think we have a very good [3:57:32, 3:57:37]: excellent type of uh public uh information comp campaign wear the mask and uh slow the spread. [3:57:38, 3:57:53]: with that and things that we're doing with our businesses, local businesses as well, and notifying them and encouraging them to have the decal in their stores and encouraging people when they come in to wear a mask itself, along with all the other type of social media type of things that we're doing. [3:57:53, 3:58:07]: billboards and and and particular signs of strategic locations as as well. Uh I have to admit though I think that the enforcement issue, since we don't have a police department, is awfully hard to do in reference to any type of violations and or [3:58:07, 3:58:12]: trying to cite someone and this is an ordinance which is uh like a law. So I would think you have to have some type of [3:58:12, 3:58:23]: of uh of a punishment in a sense or something if they don't abide by this. So um I think we've intended a resolution to highly encourage and I would hope that we'll continue to do that in this aspect as well. [3:58:24, 3:58:41]: Um and I think there's also once again code enforcement is not part of code enforcement's job to try to give out citations for something like this in this aspect. That's something the police force should do and we don't have that police force to do that. On that note, I'll I'll hear out other folks. Uh Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [3:58:41, 3:58:48]: Uh yes, uh let's uh we've been talking about a lot of subjects tonight. It's been quite interesting tonight. [3:58:48, 3:58:48]: [14329.0, 14337.0]: Let's just see if we can come to a middle ground. Mayor, I know what you think. We've had conversations. I've had several conversations with the council members. [3:58:57, 3:59:03]: Let's just kind of pare it down to what I think we kinda all agree on, which is willing. [3:59:04, 3:59:24]: We'll enforce it on all city buildings uh and properties and we'll leave it up to the businesses whether or not uh they want to enforce it. We we will allow them to do what they want to do. If they want to enforce it, they can enforce it, they can uh seek uh the police because they can [3:59:24, 3:59:44]: Do whatever they want on their particular properties. Our concern at this point, and I think that we could sit here and talk about this all night, but really it really comes down to what we can agree upon, and hopefully we can agree upon that we do want people coming into city buildings and city facilities, protecting our staff members. [3:59:44, 4:00:02]: and put the public at large in city buildings and city properties. And then we will leave it up to the businesses whether they want to opt in or opt out. Because if they opt in, then they would be doing the enforcement, contacting the police on their private property rights. [4:00:03, 4:00:05]: Mr. Blount, please go ahead. [4:00:06, 4:00:07]: Yeah, um [4:00:08, 4:00:17]: To my understanding, nothing has changed with uh governance of of of uh city properties or county properties. I think that we can still govern those. [4:00:17, 4:00:21]: The way we see fit. They haven't those that's not the jurisdiction that [4:00:21, 4:00:29]: that the the uh the area that the the the governor kent was talking about. Uh and am I correct in that, Mr. Knight, before I finish? [4:00:29, 4:00:42]: We're still able to govern the our city properties in s and city hall and and and and we've been able to say no m uh masks must be worn in there. We've already that was never taken away from. Is that correct, Mr. Williams? [4:00:43, 4:00:58]: Well, that was one of the things that we were preparing, um, at least when I say we I really mean GMA and and all the cities were preparing to litigate against the governor's order on because his initial take was that [4:00:58, 4:01:06]: He could prevent cities from im imposing a masked policy even in City Hall, which we we d you know strongly disagreed with. [4:01:07, 4:01:09]: Um but under um [4:01:09, 4:01:21]: But but really to your real question is that that the council and and the merit already established a mass policy for all city facilities and uh so that's still in effect. Um [4:01:22, 4:01:27]: Okay. That being said, for city facilities, we've already established that. [4:01:27, 4:01:28]: El [4:01:28, 4:01:31]: Let's be honest, what Governor Kemp did was nothing. [4:01:32, 4:01:52]: If you dissect that, it's really nothing. And when I go around to the businesses, when you look at places like Walmart, Kroger's and places that are saying you come in, you must wear a mask, they're putting signs up. They're putting the signs up. They're telling people uh to wear mask, even uh Home Depot. You come in, if you don't have a mask, they give me a mask. [4:01:52, 4:01:52]: Yeah. [4:01:52, 4:02:01]: So the business are businesses are buying in, but what what Governor Kemp has said, even if they don't buy in, there's nothing we can do. [4:02:01, 4:02:07]: And even if a person is standing in a business that's crowded and standing by themselves without a mask on. [4:02:07, 4:02:15]: There's nothing we could do. It's so many different stipulations and in in what Governor Kemp is saying, he may as well not say anything. [4:02:16, 4:02:21]: And so to implement this would only be political for me. [4:02:21, 4:02:25]: Because there's nothing we can do when it comes to the private sector. [4:02:26, 4:02:37]: If you dissect it right, only thing we can say is what we've already done is say with with uh with the government facilities, we say you must wear a mask. And I agree with the campaign that we have going. [4:02:38, 4:02:49]: uh promoting wearing masks and all that's all we can do because the governor has not done much with this bill. This is why GMA got involved, but that's nothing they've done because [4:02:50, 4:02:53]: Well you know why. There's nothing that's not [4:02:53, 4:02:56]: In that meeting potem Thomas, go ahead, please. [4:02:56, 4:03:10]: I I will agree with all of that. I I just think we probably need to um enhance that a little bit more or to remind citizens about um, you know, the the mandate for public facilities. [4:03:10, 4:03:16]: You know, I I'm concerned because you know, when I look at the state of Georgia and I had some notes here. [4:03:16, 4:03:18]: And we all know that the numbers are going up. [4:03:19, 4:03:22]: Uh, there are more patients hospitalized, we have more death. [4:03:23, 4:03:26]: Um Bagrange has um [4:03:26, 4:03:29]: Created a a mass policy Smyrna. [4:03:30, 4:03:31]: Uh Clayton County. [4:03:32, 4:03:33]: Um [4:03:33, 4:03:42]: So I think we all are are becoming alarmed a little bit more because of the numbers that we'll see that are being spiked up uh in the state of Georgia. [4:03:42, 4:03:52]: So my only recommendation would be, uh, Mr. Williams, is that we emphasize this a little more about public facilities, especially when we do open up. [4:03:52, 4:03:57]: Uh I see more and more citizen wearing match when I do go out and when I ride around. [4:03:58, 4:03:59]: Um, you know [4:03:59, 4:04:06]: Food Depot, Publix, Walmart. So I I think we're doing a great job. And I think even just [4:04:07, 4:04:13]: Just news media period, folks are taking on responsibility. Now you still have those that are not. [4:04:13, 4:04:32]: Um that's one of the reasons why I have an issue with the enforcement part of it. I would not be in favor of just a a citywide mandate because simply because of the enforcement and and the fine, but my recommendation, let's just highlight this a little bit more. Let's emphasize, you know, the public facilities. [4:04:33, 4:04:42]: All right. Uh Alessandra, please. Go ahead, please. Yeah, I I need everybody to understand, and hopefully Mr. Williams can clarify this in detail legally. [4:04:42, 4:04:45]: If a business opts in [4:04:45, 4:04:51]: They can stand behind this local ordinance and says the local ordinance allows me. [4:04:51, 4:05:11]: Okay, to enforce this policy. They don't have to just say this is the city, this is the stores policy. No, this is the local ordinance that we opted into. I can enforce it on my property with the weight of the local ordinance as well. Is that correct, sir? [4:05:13, 4:05:16]: It it's not entirely precise and so. [4:05:16, 4:05:17]: Um [4:05:17, 4:05:21]: If if what you mean by if they opt in then they're [4:05:21, 4:05:25]: inviting or or or allowing uh [4:05:25, 4:05:31]: code enforcement to come in and enforce it inside their business. No no sir. No sir. What I'm saying is [4:05:32, 4:05:39]: They they have language in this particular ordinance that we will pass and say there is a local ordinance. [4:05:39, 4:05:49]: that we are enforcing in this store. We're not just enforcing our policy, we're enforcing the low s local mass ordinance too, because we opted in. [4:05:50, 4:05:59]: So w the ordinance as it's currently drafted does not have that. It is it's currently drafted only a police officer or a code enforcement officer could issue a citation. [4:06:00, 4:06:03]: Um now businesses already have the right. [4:06:04, 4:06:17]: to refuse service to people who aren't wearing a mask for whatever reason, they can as long as it's not discriminatory under our you know various civil rights laws, they can refuse service anyway. And so [4:06:17, 4:06:26]: And you've seen businesses out there that have those absolute requirements that folks wear masks before coming in, particularly the smaller businesses. [4:06:26, 4:06:36]: So they they already have that right. Um now if if if you wanted to add on top of that, you know, that you know, their ability to call a police officer or code enforcement. [4:06:37, 4:06:39]: We could certainly do that, um, but [4:06:40, 4:06:43]: You know, that that's just, you know, in an added [4:06:43, 4:06:55]: feature that I'm not sure you would want us to have our code enforcement responding to businesses like that just because, you know, uh just limited resources more than anything else. [4:06:55, 4:07:15]: Well what I would wanna do is I would want the city, I would want the business to call the police. And I would want yes, I would, I would want some local ordinance that they could stand behind. They don't have to say that this is just Walmart policy. They can say this is the city policy. Just like they would do in Smyrna, just like they do in Clayton County and other places, they [4:07:15, 4:07:25]: They do have this some similar language to that that says we're standing, the local ordinance is pro is is standing behind us. It's not just a store policy anymore. [4:07:25, 4:07:34]: Well well at that point though, it's trespassing. So they have the general trespass law that that they can call the police already for for that kind of entity. [4:07:34, 4:07:35]: Yeah, incidents. [4:07:35, 4:07:43]: But again, you you could, you know, make that part of the ordinance. I'm not saying that you can't. I'm just saying that that's already provided for. [4:07:43, 4:07:45]: Yeah, I I'll I'll I'll [4:07:45, 4:08:05]: All these other cities have made steps forward and passed. They haven't passed it for nothing. Even if you put it forward, you're putting it out there to your citizens. We're standing, it's it's official. We have sanctioned the fact that we want people to wear masks. We're giving businesses, even the [4:08:05, 4:08:12]: lee way to say they want to be in, they want to be out, and the businesses that want to be in, we're standing behind them now. [4:08:13, 4:08:15]: Um uh Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [4:08:16, 4:08:19]: Mayor, one of the things that I've learned in the city of Stockbridge. [4:08:20, 4:08:22]: In in in local municipalities is that [4:08:23, 4:08:27]: People don't look at rules and regulations. They know what they want to do. [4:08:27, 4:08:30]: And if you come against it, you come against it. [4:08:30, 4:08:31]: That being said, [4:08:32, 4:08:35]: Why we put a ordinance in place to conflict? [4:08:37, 4:08:43]: With so much to now people grabbing our code enforcement off officers, waving them in, are you gonna do anything about this? [4:08:43, 4:08:45]: Are you gonna do anything about this? [4:08:46, 4:08:50]: When the businesses are governing themselves, I I'm I'm out there every day. [4:08:50, 4:08:54]: And Councilman uh Mayor Pro Tem Thomas just said he's out there. The governor [4:08:55, 4:09:02]: Why why put an ordinance out that we know Henry County's not going to enforce, but the businesses themselves can get Henry County to enforce it? [4:09:03, 4:09:06]: The private properties can get Henry County enforced it. [4:09:06, 4:09:20]: But the city of Stockbridge cannot put out an ordinance and expect people to say it's an ordinance by the city. Now you need to enforce it in Henry County. That's not gonna happen. And so why do it? I agree with Count Pro Mayor Pro Tem. [4:09:20, 4:09:24]: Let's continue to to to promote even more. [4:09:25, 4:09:42]: Promote even more. I go out every day and I'm seeing people with masks on. I'm seeing businesses doing my barbershop. You can't even they have to come outside and get you. I my doll's vet. You can't even go in there. They have you make you have to call and they come out to your car. These businesses are doing it. [4:09:42, 4:09:50]: So why put an artist in place to convolute the situation and cause a conundrum because it cannot be enforced? [4:09:50, 4:09:57]: I say let's promote it, let's put it out there, let's make it happen that way. Right. Thank you. Ms. Barber, you had a uh comment. [4:09:59, 4:10:00]: Oh, yeah. [4:10:00, 4:10:20]: Yeah, I was gonna make a comment about the um banning smoking in cars that Councilman Blount um sponsored and we have no way of enforcing it. Point of order, Mayor. Point of order. You know, if you if you want to get ugly then then find another point of order, Mayor. This that has what we're talking about. Yeah. [4:10:20, 4:10:30]: You don't get to interrupt me and that's one for the scroll. [4:10:30, 4:10:32]: I got hold on a second. [4:10:33, 4:10:48]: Hold on. So let's let's if keep we we're talking about this particular ordinance dealing with the with the man a mandate for mass, okay? I think we need to stay on we need to stay on topic on that. Okay. [4:10:48, 4:11:08]: This ordinance is no different than uh any other ordinance that has been approved. Here point of order. We're talking about this ordinance. You don't get to interrupt. We're talking about this ordinance. You don't get to interrupt me. Point of order. Will y'all stop please for a second here? [4:11:08, 4:11:27]: Is this ordinance is no different than any other ordinance? Okay, okay. It gives businesses. It's not the businesses, the business will take charge of all this. We got that. Business will take charge of all this stuff. All right. So any other any other comment? [4:11:28, 4:11:34]: Mayor, the point of order is she cannot bring up other interrupt me when I'm talking. [4:11:34, 4:11:54]: You don't get interrupting. All right. Sir, don't interrupt interrupt me when I'm talking. Hold on, folks. You're not writing anything here. Let me be real clear. See, we're holding hold. I'm done, Mayor. You can continue. Yeah. Because I know it's a long [4:11:54, 4:11:59]: It's been a long night. It's been a long night. It's after ten PM. [4:12:00, 4:12:06]: Okay, stop. Stop now this stuff this stuff. This is ridiculous. This is getting ridiculous here. [4:12:06, 4:12:12]: Ale Mr. Alexander, you have something pertinent to say, please. Yeah, thank uh uh I'm gonna go ahead and make a motion. [4:12:12, 4:12:16]: All right to make your motion the uh ordinance for the city. [4:12:16, 4:12:19]: Covering city buildings and allowing [4:12:19, 4:12:25]: uh us uh local businesses to opt in or to opt out. [4:12:25, 4:12:27]: Of these particular ordinance. [4:12:28, 4:12:34]: Just like Smyrna, just like Clayton, just like all the other cities all over Georgia have done. [4:12:35, 4:12:55]: You know what, it it is just it it is uh if if nobody sees if nobody gets a citation, it's still worth the effort of at least having it out there. So I'm I'm I'm for it because it it adds on to what we've been trying to do and it allows each business to continue [4:12:55, 4:13:07]: to decide now the city is embracing the ones that do and don't and we're standing behind them. So yes, I make that motion. So I have a second. [4:13:08, 4:13:15]: Ms. Barber just seconded that motion. Mr. Blount, you had a comment, sir. You got anything else you need to say? My comment is and I'll still stand beside it. [4:13:16, 4:13:25]: To have an ordinance is only gonna convolute this situation a lot more, put more on the citizens, and it's gonna the businesses are already doing what they're supposed to do. [4:13:26, 4:13:46]: All right. Uh now uh Councilman Alexander, in reference to this motion, you did not and and uh I'm assuming you did this on purpose, you didn't talk about anything about uh punishment or warnings or or uh payment because we it's hard for it we difficult for us to to enforce it. I'm assuming you're we're not going to enforce it. We're going to allow the businesses [4:13:46, 4:14:02]: to continue to enforce it, but when they come in contact with a citizen, they simply say there is local legislation backing this up. It's just not a city policy. It's not just not a store policy. We're backing them up. [4:14:03, 4:14:05]: Mr Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, please. [4:14:05, 4:14:09]: Well uh Mr. Alexander knows that I've had this discussion with him. [4:14:10, 4:14:14]: Um before this meeting because I want to get a better understanding. [4:14:14, 4:14:20]: And and I explained to him that I do have an issue with the code enforcement part of this. [4:14:21, 4:14:24]: I I I'm still not understanding his point because [4:14:25, 4:14:28]: Businesses have this authority now. [4:14:29, 4:14:38]: to to mandate whatever they want to mandate. So I don't see how the city of Stockbridge creating a a a public mandate [4:14:38, 4:14:44]: changes anything. Uh, you know, and this is, you know, again, Mr. Alexander, you know, you and I talked about this. [4:14:44, 4:14:45]: Um [4:14:45, 4:14:50]: I'm more in favor of city facilities, you know, mandating that. [4:14:50, 4:14:54]: Uh, but I just have an issue with the enforcement part'cause I've seen [4:14:55, 4:14:55]: What happened? [4:14:56, 4:14:58]: Uh just earlier today. [4:14:58, 4:15:02]: I saw a woman being dragged out of a store. [4:15:02, 4:15:05]: uh by other folk because she didn't have a mask on. [4:15:06, 4:15:13]: And I just think that we're getting ready to open up a Pandora box if we try to put this citywide and even to attempt. [4:15:14, 4:15:17]: to have our code enforcement officers out there trying to manage [4:15:17, 4:15:29]: Well that's what I'm concerned about. Mayor Hold stand by hold hold on a second. Vanessa, Miss Holliday. I I just want to clarify the motion that I've written is [4:15:29, 4:15:38]: For this to include city facilities and to allow city businesses to opt in or opt out. Is that the motion? [4:15:38, 4:15:52]: Yes, that is the motion right there. And and subsequent to that, I just want to c clarify with Councilman Thomas. I don't want the c the code enforcement is not gonna be enforcing it. The police are when the business calls them. [4:15:53, 4:16:00]: And when the business calls them, we're gonna have a local ordinance on the book that says this business has opted in. [4:16:01, 4:16:15]: But to requiring mass. It's not just'cause right now, oh, this is uh Food Depot's policy. This is uh Walmart's policy. Well, it's Walmart's policy, but we have a city ordinance that states that we can do this. [4:16:15, 4:16:24]: Oh, let me mayor forward. Oh, right ahead, sir. Let me ask Mr. Williams, uh, why these businesses can't do that now, uh, Mr. Williams. [4:16:25, 4:16:25]: Yeah. [4:16:28, 4:16:28]: They can. [4:16:29, 4:16:37]: Well let's see that that's that's what I thought. See, that's what I that's what I'm I'm I'm missing, uh Mr. Alexander. These businesses can do that now. [4:16:38, 4:16:49]: But they cannot say there's a local ordinance that stands behind me right now. They can only say it's a store policy. But it's not needed to be said. [4:16:49, 4:17:09]: It certainly is because if you're a cashier in there, you telling them it's the store policy and everybody they're gonna argue the store policy. If it's the s if it's the city ordinance, they're not gonna order this order the city ordinance. This is what the law is. They go they gonna argue that too. All right. Ms. Gantt, hold on a second. Ms. Gantt go ahead, please. Yes. Yes. [4:17:09, 4:17:10]: Um mayor [4:17:10, 4:17:13]: And just so the citizens know and everyone know. [4:17:13, 4:17:17]: The mayor council had already decided to advocate for wearing a mask. [4:17:17, 4:17:19]: Um we have [4:17:19, 4:17:39]: little commercials. We also have a decal and I want to know the status of that that each business has saying that they stop they support Stockbridge and wear a mask before entry. Those decals are to be sent out to every single business in the city of Stockbridge. Um from my understanding they have been ordered. I don't know where we are [4:17:39, 4:17:43]: with that. [4:17:44, 4:17:53]: Okay, they've been ordered, they've been received. Those businesses that support the our efforts in asking people to wear a mask has taken place. [4:17:53, 4:17:58]: And we have spent money on that advocating for everyone to wear a mask. [4:18:00, 4:18:06]: And that's what that's all I wanted to say. I mean, um, you know, Mayor Pro Tem made a a very valid point. [4:18:07, 4:18:10]: Um and I just, you know [4:18:10, 4:18:12]: I think we need to be reasonable about this. [4:18:12, 4:18:24]: And not just say we have, you know, one on the books when we really aren't making any additional waves. We're already asking them to wear a mask and we've s we sent out [4:18:24, 4:18:30]: Each we send out door decals to each business asking them to post, wear a mask before entry. [4:18:30, 4:18:30]: Right. [4:18:31, 4:18:33]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [4:18:33, 4:18:36]: You know, and I agree with uh you know, I agree that [4:18:37, 4:18:57]: No citizen, no business, no private entity gonna ever call the police and they say we're gonna enforce it because it's an ordinary. They're gonna enforce it because that business has said they have a violation of their policy. If they implement no mask in there, you can't come in there. I've seen it across. I've seen it, I've I've I've seen [4:18:57, 4:18:57]: Saying this. [4:18:58, 4:19:03]: If they say mask must be worn worn, now they can still [4:19:04, 4:19:18]: Now with what Kemp has done, the private entity can call the officers and police now and have something done off of what he said. But for us cities, we can't we can't go in these business enforcements. So to say our ordinance is only gonna come, I say it again. [4:19:19, 4:19:31]: is only going to come with the situation because citizens are not going to look at what's procedural pertaining to this. They're going to say, let's get code inform. They're going to the phone calls will come to the city of Stockbridge. [4:19:31, 4:19:38]: before they go nine one one because if we put ordinance in place, they're gonna want us to enforce it instead of the police. [4:19:39, 4:19:54]: All right, Ms. Azzan, the last time we gotta end this. Yeah, thank you, sir, Mayor, for being so so patient with me. See, I look at what seventy-five or eighty cities all over Georgia that have sent out the same message that I guess it does nothing. They just decide to do it. No. [4:19:55, 4:20:05]: They understand the importance, okay? Before it was illegal, the governor was challenges, there were legal challenges. There's no legal challenges. The pathway has been laid. [4:20:06, 4:20:11]: The state cap from the dome they told us this is what you can do. [4:20:11, 4:20:12]: Right. [4:20:12, 4:20:32]: Before we had the you know, Savannah and other places. If it was up to me, I would mandate a mask in every place in this in the city. Okay? But I know the votes are not there for that. But it there has to be a middle ground somewhere, okay, to be able to say to folk, listen, 75 other cities all over the [4:20:32, 4:20:52]: State just decided to do this for nothing. They just voted it for all these other cities, just decided to do it for nothing. No, they decided to do it for nothing. They le the governor legalized the ability for cities all over Georgia to do it. And all of these cities all over Georgia are doing so. They sending out a clear message to their citizens. [4:20:52, 4:21:11]: You know what? Stockbridge has a thousand plus positive COVID cases. The deaths are increasing all over. And if you say that people are wearing a mask when you're out there, you're just not getting out much. I'm not seeing people wearing masks all over the place. I'm seeing people go out. [4:21:12, 4:21:32]: uh all over the place without a mask and I'm having to remove myself from these particular environments. So yes, I want to do everything possible in my power to encourage air business. If they can see me pass an ordinance that says, look, we're gonna stand with you if you decide to go out there on a limb like Walmart [4:21:32, 4:21:52]: Has done, like Target has done. We have not backed up these businesses in any way. We said, okay, y'all do y'all thing. We not here. We the local representative. We can actually do something that the governor has allowed us to do as a legal entity, and we're not. [4:21:51, 4:22:11]: Not gonna do it. We're just gonna leave you out there by yourself and say, encourage, encourage, encourage. Okay? But the governor has allowed us a legal path for the city to legally do something, whether we enforce it or not. They're allowing us to do it. [4:22:11, 4:22:21]: Committees in Georgia have done so, I believe, at last count, but not us. But the vote is on us. Mr. Mr. Blount, for last time, please. Go ahead. [4:22:21, 4:22:29]: If there's 75 cities doing it, you probably can't name one that don't have the way one city that's doing it that don't have their own police department. [4:22:31, 4:22:33]: All right. [4:22:33, 4:22:41]: Okay, so uh anyway. I'm ready for the vote. All right. Yeah, I was gonna say this so so a motion has been made and it's been seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:22:42, 4:22:43]: All in favor. [4:22:44, 4:22:45]: All post. [4:22:47, 4:22:48]: I'll pose them as [4:22:48, 4:22:58]: Okay, so I got three uh one one one f well if if the motion fails, actually. One is Barber's not going to be included in that vote. She's not present. [4:22:58, 4:22:59]: Okay. [4:23:00, 4:23:01]: All right, so [4:23:01, 4:23:05]: Uh y you you come back and raise your hand, what does that mean? [4:23:07, 4:23:12]: It's it that's a it still fails. You right in favor, Miss Ms. Barber. [4:23:13, 4:23:16]: You in favor you in favor of the motion, Miss Barber, or against? [4:23:18, 4:23:21]: Yes. Yes, yes what? I asked two things. In favor. [4:23:23, 4:23:37]: You're in favor of the motion. Okay, so it's it fails. It fails three to uh two to three. All right. Now, on that note, uh, and we're gonna enforce we're we're already we're gonna enforce what uh on public uh in our public facilities anyway. [4:23:37, 4:23:37]: Correct? [4:23:38, 4:23:43]: All right. So that uh ends that. I'll go now to my comments. Now talking about um [4:23:43, 4:23:48]: uh public health department talking about wearing masks. The three Ws, wear the mask, wash your hands. [4:23:48, 4:23:51]: And keep your distance at least six feet apart. Public health department. [4:23:51, 4:23:54]: Once again, free covet nineteen test. [4:23:54, 4:23:59]: The test is free every day at at the at uh Heritage Senior Center. [4:23:59, 4:24:02]: It's ten fifty Florence uh McGarrity Parkway. [4:24:03, 4:24:12]: Now it's free of charge. Eight hundred, eight four seven, four two two two two two two two two two two six two. You have to call and set an appointment before you go. Eight hundred eight four seven four two six two. [4:24:13, 4:24:13]: No. [4:24:13, 4:24:26]: Testing has been down. So folks get out there and get tested. So it's free of charge. Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. I'll say again. Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. [4:24:26, 4:24:27]: Tuesday. [4:24:27, 4:24:32]: 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. and 2 p.m. to 7 p.m. Once again, Tuesday. [4:24:33, 4:24:36]: eight AM to one PM and two PM to seven PM. [4:24:36, 4:24:40]: Saturday, this coming Saturday, August 29th. [4:24:40, 4:24:41]: Nine AM to noon. [4:24:42, 4:24:46]: And the Saturday, uh September fifth, also nine AM to noon. [4:24:46, 4:24:52]: That's already been on our website,'cause I saw it on a Sober's website and and and Facebook page indicating all that. [4:24:52, 4:24:57]: In reference to the upcoming election, which is three November, absentee ballots began mailing. [4:24:57, 4:24:59]: Fifteen September. [4:25:00, 4:25:03]: First day to rest in a vote. If you are not rest to the vote, go rest in the vote. [4:25:04, 4:25:11]: First day of the rest of the vote, excuse me, last day of the rest of the vote is uh five October for the November third election, presidential election. [4:25:11, 4:25:14]: Early voting begins twelve October. [4:25:15, 4:25:17]: Saturday early voting is twenty four October. [4:25:18, 4:25:26]: And the last day of early voting is three uh thirty October. And of course the elections on three November, Tuesday, three November. [4:25:28, 4:25:31]: The census folks, the census extremely important. [4:25:31, 4:25:35]: You need to get you need to make sure that you fill out the senses. [4:25:35, 4:25:44]: All right. So the self response to phase uh a phase to move uh has been moved up on the on the census for th to thirty September, right around the corner. [4:25:45, 4:25:47]: So you have to go to tw twenty twenty census dot gov. [4:25:48, 4:25:55]: All right. If you haven't done so, do that. The sense is extremely important because it's roughly estimated about$2,300 per individual. [4:25:56, 4:26:01]: That your communities, community star bridges, can get for you, putting in your census. That helps us with federal funds. [4:26:02, 4:26:14]: Public resources, roads, housing services, fire department, public safety, hospitals, schools. And what's also more important about that, you get an accurate representation in Congress. [4:26:14, 4:26:19]: and state legislators. All right. You have to go get the census done. Please do so. [4:26:20, 4:26:20]: All right. [4:26:20, 4:26:22]: Now uh [4:26:22, 4:26:23]: Labor Day is right around the corner. [4:26:24, 4:26:28]: Please have a happy holiday. Labor Day is Monday, the seventh of September. [4:26:28, 4:26:32]: On that note, well, wait a minute. I gotta read these uh meetings coming up. That's right. [4:26:34, 4:26:36]: Planning commission meeting is Thursday, August twenty seventh. [4:26:36, 4:26:38]: September the twenty fourth. [4:26:39, 4:26:41]: Excuse me? That one's been cancelled. [4:26:41, 4:26:44]: Or that would be count the planning committee be cancelled? [4:26:45, 4:26:53]: Yeah, the agenda had already posted, but it's since been canceled. Okay. All right. Main Street Advisory Board meeting I have here Friday, September eleventh. [4:26:54, 4:26:56]: At nine a.m. by the way Zoom. [4:26:57, 4:27:01]: Our next city council meeting is Monday, September fourteenth, six PM by way of Zoom. [4:27:02, 4:27:04]: City Council budget retreat. [4:27:05, 4:27:06]: Tuesday, September fifteenth. [4:27:07, 4:27:09]: Thursday, September seventeenth. [4:27:09, 4:27:11]: And Friday, September eighteenth. [4:27:11, 4:27:14]: Nine AM to one PM each one of those days by way of Zoom. [4:27:15, 4:27:18]: Downtown November Authority meetings Tuesday, September fifteenth. [4:27:18, 4:27:19]: Six PM. [4:27:21, 4:27:24]: Youth council advisory meeting is Tuesday, September fifth fifteenth. [4:27:25, 4:27:26]: I just said that, didn't I? [4:27:26, 4:27:28]: Um it's too been a long meeting. [4:27:28, 4:27:31]: September fifteenth is six thirty PM on Zoom. [4:27:31, 4:27:38]: On that note I need a motion to adjourn this meeting. Sir, sir, sir. I move. So move. [4:27:38, 4:27:55]: Uh uh you missed my meeting. Oh you're ca it's not on this list, I'm sorry. Your council will stop September first. Right. Right. Okay. I got it. Go ahead. You already did that. Okay. Thank you. Wasn't it written on here. Thank you. I forgot about that. Anyway, I mean [4:27:55, 4:27:57]: So move, I got a motion to uh [4:27:57, 4:27:59]: So moved, I need a second to adjourn the meeting. [4:28:00, 4:28:02]: Is there a second to adjourn to meet? [4:28:02, 4:28:03]: Okay. [4:28:03, 4:28:06]: Okay, there we go. Maripo Tim Thomas, all in favor of adjourning the meeting. [4:28:07, 4:28:07]: Say hi. [4:28:08, 4:28:09]: Raise your hand. Hi. [4:28:09, 4:28:12]: Good night. God bless you all.

--- title: August 10 2020 City Council Meeting date: 2020-08-10 source: 2020-08-10_August_10_2020_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:36, 0:00:37]: All right, well good evening, everybody. [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: Good evening, sir. [0:00:45, 0:00:46]: Good evening. [0:00:46, 0:00:52]: All right, so I'm not uh so otherwise we had some technical difficulties here, I guess, and for everybody, I suppose. [0:00:53, 0:00:54]: Okay. [0:00:56, 0:00:57]: Alrighty. [0:00:58, 0:01:03]: So I got uh C Elton's there, John's there, Mr. Aaron. [0:01:06, 0:01:07]: This Miller. [0:01:09, 0:01:10]: That's it, seems like. [0:01:11, 0:01:23]: I'm here. Mayor. Yeah, I got you. Fonzo. I'm sorry, Fonzo. Excuse me, sir. I've got you. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm not no problem. Sorry about that. Okay. Well I'm I'm gonna go to mute, but I'm here. Okay, got it. Good deal. Thank you. [0:01:24, 0:01:27]: Uh uh Mike Williams [0:01:29, 0:01:33]: Kate got Mike there, all right. Uh [0:02:09, 0:02:11]: Oh well. [0:02:13, 0:02:13]: So [0:02:50, 0:02:52]: And Mr. Williams. [0:02:53, 0:02:56]: I have a quorum, but we don't have the clerk or the city manager. [0:02:57, 0:02:58]: So we can't get started. [0:02:58, 0:02:59]: Yes, sir. [0:03:00, 0:03:01]: All right. [0:03:03, 0:03:10]: All right, no problem. We'll wait till we get to clerk and city manager before we go anywhere. And hopefully all the rest of the council can join us as well. [0:03:11, 0:03:12]: Okay. [0:04:16, 0:04:17]: Good evening, everybody. [0:04:19, 0:04:20]: Evening to you. [0:04:21, 0:04:22]: Good evening. [0:04:24, 0:04:26]: Alrighty. [0:05:43, 0:05:45]: Good evening, Mr. Knighton. [0:05:47, 0:05:49]: Hello, Mayor Forbes. Trying to get everybody in here. [0:05:49, 0:05:50]: Okay. [0:06:11, 0:06:14]: I'm sorry I stepped away for a minute. What what's going [0:06:18, 0:06:23]: I see IT apparently has rectified the issue at the moment, but we're trying to make sure everybody can get in here. [0:06:24, 0:06:25]: Vanessa's here. [0:06:49, 0:06:55]: I'll give it a couple more minutes. We actually have a quorum, but I'll give it two more minutes and see if we can get uh councilwoman Gannon and then we'll go. [0:06:57, 0:07:01]: Yeah, she should be and just spoke to her. She should be joining us in just a second. [0:07:07, 0:07:07]: I want [0:07:11, 0:07:14]: Yeah, I'll remember that the next time I'm late, okay. [0:07:14, 0:07:15]: Yeah. [0:07:17, 0:07:18]: No problem. [0:07:18, 0:07:19]: We got it. [0:07:20, 0:07:22]: Remember that one. [0:07:51, 0:07:55]: All right, uh I see Ms. Gantt's in. All right, so. [0:07:55, 0:08:00]: We now have a quorum and clerk. Madam Clerk, I have six fourteen. [0:08:00, 0:08:07]: So I'm gonna call the uh meeting to order. We have a quorum, we have the clerk and the city manager as well, and our attorney. [0:08:07, 0:08:08]: Okay. [0:08:09, 0:08:13]: So uh I call the meeting once again at 614 and an invocation, I'll give it tonight. [0:08:13, 0:08:33]: Thanks. My guest, please. Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again as we do the business of our city. Allow us to make good logical decisions for our citizens that elected us to office. Be us always as we make the decisions for the betterment of our community, and we continue to look out for our stakeholders as well, as we continue to do the logical things. [0:08:33, 0:08:44]: thing for our citizens and the fact that uh we're gonna make the city even greater than it is today. You know it's always Lord can constantly guide us and control us and help us do the best we can. [0:08:44, 0:08:45]: Your name. Amen. [0:08:45, 0:08:50]: All right. Um Pledge of Allegiance. Please stand for Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:08:53, 0:09:00]: On three, I pledge allegiance to the United States of America. [0:09:00, 0:09:04]: And two public. Oh, which is that? [0:09:04, 0:09:05]: Plantation. [0:09:05, 0:09:10]: Under God indivisible indivisible liberty and just the score. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: All right. [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:09:17, 0:09:18]: Mayor Ford. [0:09:19, 0:09:19]: Present. [0:09:20, 0:09:22]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:09:26, 0:09:28]: Oh, okay. You're you're muted. [0:09:29, 0:09:29]: Right. [0:09:29, 0:09:30]: Present. [0:09:33, 0:09:35]: Councilman Alexander. [0:09:36, 0:09:37]: How's it? [0:09:37, 0:09:39]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:09:39, 0:09:40]: Isn't [0:09:44, 0:09:44]: Present. [0:09:47, 0:09:48]: Councilman Blount. [0:09:50, 0:09:51]: President. [0:09:51, 0:09:53]: And Councilwoman Gantt. [0:09:53, 0:09:54]: Present. [0:09:54, 0:10:00]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:10:03, 0:10:11]: I need a motion to adopt it. Okay, so move. Gantt uh second. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:10:12, 0:10:32]: All right, synonymous. All right, uh what you have before you are the approval of the minutes for the following meetings. Uh council meeting, which was June eighth of twenty twenty, the council work session June twenty-third of twenty twenty, and then we had a special call meeting on June 29th of 2020. Hopefully you look through those minutes and everything's appropriate. That's the case in the [0:10:32, 0:10:34]: The emotion accept all those minutes, please. [0:10:36, 0:10:41]: A motion accept two minutes, please. Okay, bar I got Barber, second. [0:10:43, 0:10:48]: I need a second. Second. Second. Councilman Blount. Second. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:10:49, 0:10:50]: Okay. [0:10:50, 0:10:52]: All right, thank you very much. [0:10:52, 0:10:58]: Uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? There are no public comments. Okay, so we'll go right into a new business. [0:10:59, 0:11:16]: Council consideration to approve Carter and Sloop Task Order Number 21 for utility relocation of the G DOC Project PI number three two two two zero five zero, service route one thirty eight, service route forty-two, an amount of seventy-three thousand nine hundred dollars. Funding sources water and sewer funding. [0:11:17, 0:11:18]: Mr. Aaron, please. [0:11:18, 0:11:19]: Yes, Mr Mayor. [0:11:20, 0:11:31]: Can you hear me? Yeah, gotcha, sir. You good? Yes. U uh GDOT has a uh intersection improvement project at uh Highway 138 and Highway 42 and also. [0:11:31, 0:11:38]: Locations on highway forty two, we've got some water lines in conflict with the project, so we're gonna have to move those borderlines. [0:11:41, 0:11:47]: Okay, that's it in your presentation. Yeah, so this is for the design of the relocation project. [0:11:47, 0:11:50]: Okay. Thank you very much. Any questions, Council, for Mr. Aaron? [0:11:51, 0:12:04]: Yes. Go right in confident Allen. Uh actually for the city manager and Mr. Aaron, uh this is an integral part of the widening project from Highway 42 for G Dot going to 675. Is that correct? [0:12:08, 0:12:11]: Yes, that's my understanding. That is correct. It's a part of that overall project. [0:12:12, 0:12:17]: Right. Okay. Thank you. And and it is, yes, that is a critical component of it. [0:12:18, 0:12:24]: Right. I mean, I don't think the public is much aware of the fact that uh the highway forty two is going to be widened. [0:12:24, 0:12:31]: From uh Walmart there at uh highway one hundred-eight, all the way to I six seventy five. We hear citizens. [0:12:31, 0:12:39]: Uh complain about traffic, and some of the times it's because they're not understanding what's going to move forward. But this is a project that's already approved. [0:12:40, 0:12:49]: And we should have four lanes going from my six seventy-five from uh Walmart all the way to six seventy five with a medium sidewalk pass. So that's a great project. [0:12:49, 0:12:54]: I would like to go ahead and make a motion for approval on this particular uh item. [0:12:54, 0:12:59]: Okay, sure. Is there a second? Councilman Barber, second that. Any further discussion? [0:13:00, 0:13:02]: Seeing none, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:13:04, 0:13:06]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Jeanelles. [0:13:06, 0:13:17]: Council consideration to approve invitation to bid ITB number 18 ITB 050418D RR Janitorial Services. [0:13:18, 0:13:32]: Overall estimated cost of the amount of$97,176.32. General cleaning is$79,312.32 plus$17,864 for the COVID sanitation. [0:13:32, 0:13:40]: Funding source government building and execu uh ex executive, excuse me, general budgets presented by Miss Miller and Mr. Please. [0:13:41, 0:14:01]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. City staff again is requesting that City Council extend the existing contract with Internet Intercontinental Commercial Services for one year. The annual amount as stated is$97,176.32. The extension of this agreement will allow for staff the ability to perform an [0:14:01, 0:14:16]: extensive review and re research in order to develop a new scope of services necessary to provide sanitation requirements conducive to CDC required guidelines. And then in that would allow us to then put out a new uh solicitation. [0:14:16, 0:14:18]: And um [0:14:18, 0:14:25]: and and and actually um um provide additional sanitation in in the in a new contract. [0:14:26, 0:14:26]: Okay, thank you. [0:14:27, 0:14:29]: Uh Mr. Aaron, do we have anything to add at all? [0:14:30, 0:14:31]: No, sir. [0:14:31, 0:14:34]: Okay, thank you. And questions, Council, for uh Miss Miller. [0:14:35, 0:14:37]: Uh Miss Barber, go right in, please. [0:14:37, 0:14:38]: Yes. Um [0:14:38, 0:14:39]: So [0:14:40, 0:14:41]: Couple of things. [0:14:43, 0:14:45]: Was this the only responder? [0:14:46, 0:14:53]: Okay, so um in the in the on the top of the agenda, I put a background there. This has a very lengthy background. [0:14:54, 0:15:00]: Um it started in 2015. There was a bid that did was solicited in 2015. [0:15:00, 0:15:20]: Intercontinental was awarded the bid. However, in 2017, the contract with Intercontinental was terminated, and then staff decided to go with another vendor, Albright Janitorial Services. Staff then was not satisfied with Albright Janitorial Services, so they went back to [0:15:20, 0:15:28]: Intercontinental services. So as it stands right now, we don't have a valid contract. However, [0:15:29, 0:15:49]: Um, ICS has been performing and providing janitorial services for the past three years. What I'm asking is for council to allow us to continue using them, but ask our direct staff to go and do research, provide a scope of services that would include CDC guidelines so that we can bid. [0:15:49, 0:15:55]: out a another contract and so then we would have an an actual agreement in place. [0:15:57, 0:16:03]: Okay, so this is essentially month to month is what they're pretty much, yes. [0:16:04, 0:16:04]: Oh [0:16:05, 0:16:15]: So you haven't sent out a recent bid for the janitorial service? No, we currently have ICS and because we don't have a contract in place. [0:16:15, 0:16:21]: We're asking council to allow us to spend this amount of money while we prepare a new bid. [0:16:21, 0:16:24]: And an advertise the solicitation. [0:16:25, 0:16:28]: Okay, well I'm I'm not in agreement with [0:16:28, 0:16:29]: Um [0:16:30, 0:16:34]: continuing with the same contract, that would be for another year. [0:16:34, 0:16:40]: Correct. Well it would allow to um um I don't know how long dashes um would need, but [0:16:40, 0:16:47]: Within this pandemic, they have to do the research and develop a scope of services that we can put on the streets and advertise. [0:16:50, 0:16:55]: We was asking for a year so it would give us time to actually develop a scope of work. [0:16:55, 0:17:00]: but still allow us to be able to pay ICS for the work that they're currently performing. [0:17:01, 0:17:05]: Because the the extension that they were granted has expired. [0:17:06, 0:17:11]: The I would not expect it to take obviously a year for us to develop a scope. [0:17:11, 0:17:26]: I think that's the question you're getting at, Councilwoman Barber. This would be it would allow us up to a year. I certainly don't think it's paid it to take a year, but it would give us um uh the several months that we need to go ahead and develop the scope and then to um put out a bid. [0:17:27, 0:17:29]: So can we agree to just [0:17:29, 0:17:37]: If we're able to extend this for about sixty days, that should give us enough time to put together a scope of work. [0:17:39, 0:17:40]: Right on track. [0:17:42, 0:17:46]: Dash is how much time do you think you need to develop a scope with C D C re guidelines? [0:17:46, 0:17:55]: I don't think sixty days would be enough time because if we extend it for sixty days and we don't meet that deadline, then we're we're without a a cleaning service. [0:17:55, 0:18:00]: We're not saying it's gonna take a year, but I think we just need adequate time to make sure we have a [0:18:01, 0:18:16]: a viable scope of services with what's going on with this pandemic to make sure that we're getting the services that we need before staff and everybody gets back into the buildings. Okay, so I have a a few concerns. Janitorial Services is a basic [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: Service. [0:18:17, 0:18:21]: So we should be able to um get more. [0:18:22, 0:18:32]: suppliers who are interested in bidding on this. If we've been able to extend this contract, um I know we've been doing it extension annually. [0:18:33, 0:18:37]: I just wanna see us extend this for another sixty or maybe ninety days. [0:18:37, 0:18:41]: That way it gives you time to put together a new scope of work. [0:18:42, 0:18:50]: But I don't want us to continue using who we've been accustomed to using. And I don't know what their performance has been like. [0:18:50, 0:18:53]: Has there been any complaints? Have they been good? [0:18:55, 0:19:15]: I I mean I could give you my my thoughts on that. I think they have uh been more than adequate. I think they have been good and provided the services that we uh have needed uh during this period. Um if if it's a matter of and I understand the concern that you raise, if it is a matter of something that the council wants to consider for, say, 90 days, and if for some reason [0:19:15, 0:19:25]: For some reason that can't be met for uh legitimate reasons, obviously we would inform you, but if if that would be something that the council would consider 90 days. [0:19:25, 0:19:30]: and uh uh to be able to uh formulate the scope and then put it uh forward. [0:19:31, 0:19:31]: Okay. [0:19:32, 0:19:32]: I'm okay with that. [0:19:33, 0:19:34]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [0:19:35, 0:19:36]: Ms. Gantt go ahead, please. [0:19:38, 0:19:46]: Um thank you. I'm I'm concerned about rushing the staff within the ninety day time frame. And I say that [0:19:47, 0:19:48]: Because [0:19:49, 0:19:49]: Um [0:19:50, 0:20:10]: I'm not against. I agree with Councilwoman Barber. We should go ahead and try to get this done if we're gonna put a bid out. I haven't heard any complaints from staff or miss our city manager hasn't stated that there has been an issue with our janitor services. I do know that the importance of constantly getting bids every [0:20:09, 0:20:16]: every now and then, every so many years, just to stay on our toes to make sure we're getting the best bang for our buck. [0:20:16, 0:20:21]: But I also am wondering, and I guess this might be to legal. [0:20:22, 0:20:25]: Whether or not we do a contract agreement. [0:20:26, 0:20:26]: Um [0:20:27, 0:20:39]: now that we're doing month by month and we stay up to a year, is that possible to put that language in there and the, you know, and and let them know that we're putting it out for bid, they can come back and bid again. [0:20:40, 0:20:42]: But just stay up to I don't want them. [0:20:43, 0:20:48]: I don't want a contract. I I agree. I I mean we don't have to have it for the entire year. [0:20:49, 0:20:51]: You know, the bitch should come out, but [0:20:52, 0:20:53]: If it says up to a year. [0:20:54, 0:20:57]: With the under with that language in the contract agreement. [0:20:58, 0:21:00]: Um, which means that we're doing a month by month [0:21:01, 0:21:02]: Service right now. [0:21:03, 0:21:11]: So um all of our contracts like this where it's a fairly basic service that um with multiple potential vi bidders. [0:21:11, 0:21:13]: Have a uh thirty day [0:21:14, 0:21:17]: clause where we can terminate for any reason on thirty day notice. [0:21:18, 0:21:27]: So you could do that. The the the main advantage of doing a year um or up to a year is it locks in that price for that period of time. [0:21:28, 0:21:29]: Say no more. [0:21:30, 0:21:35]: Then if that's the case, if we're locking in a price and it we're going month by month right now. [0:21:35, 0:21:39]: And that could change, then I I am in favor of of doing it up to a year. [0:21:41, 0:21:43]: Yeah. Yes, sir. Go right here, Mayor Pro Tem. [0:21:44, 0:21:47]: Uh I'd like to ask Mr. Aaron and uh Mrs. Miller. [0:21:48, 0:21:58]: Uh what review process is in place to evaluate uh the service of this janitorial? And it just seems that [0:21:59, 0:22:10]: um that something need to be in place where we can actually evaluate uh the quality of that service. I have another question, but uh let me get let me get a response to that. [0:22:10, 0:22:16]: Um, what I can tell you is that during our renewal process, whenever we send out a renewal notice to both the user [0:22:17, 0:22:37]: Um and the vendors. Before we send a renewal notice out to our vendors, we send a form out to the department heads and we ask them to evaluate them best on certain criteria. They actually have to sign off whether the vendor has been timely, has been performing based on scope of services, um, is over. [0:22:37, 0:22:52]: over costs and based on that renewal form and it when it once it's signed off, we then um proceed with the renewal. What I can tell you with this is that this um it the contract predates me, but this is something that we're actually trying to straighten out. [0:22:53, 0:23:01]: So we've we've had this contract and we just need to make sure that the scope of services conduces to what what's going on now in the um economy. [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: Well w what would it be pertinent to have something [0:23:06, 0:23:09]: uh on a monthly or a um [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: quarterly basis where [0:23:12, 0:23:15]: Uh staff can um [0:23:15, 0:23:17]: Um, give their opinions. [0:23:18, 0:23:21]: I mean to ask them once at the end of the year. [0:23:21, 0:23:33]: uh they may have forgotten what happened in January February and then you're asked in say in December. It just seems that something should be in place uh a little bit more um [0:23:33, 0:23:34]: Um [0:23:35, 0:23:42]: intermediate where uh you know this can be gauged um on on a regular basis. [0:23:42, 0:23:46]: That's that that's that's my concern now, but I do have another question. [0:23:46, 0:23:49]: Uh my other question is [0:23:49, 0:23:55]: I notice in the scope of the contract it seems to be a seventeen seventeen thousand dollars. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: For COVID. [0:23:56, 0:24:00]: So what is the difference in the regular cleaning? [0:24:00, 0:24:03]: versus the uh specified [0:24:03, 0:24:07]: Uh C D C uh requirement uh cleaning. What is the difference? [0:24:10, 0:24:12]: Yes, she wants to go ahead and answer that. [0:24:12, 0:24:27]: Well, the COVID cleaning is it implements what the C D C recommends. That wasn't in the original scope of services. The original scope of service was janitorial service, cleaning and mopping and waxing and things of that nature. But when the COVID nineteen happened, [0:24:27, 0:24:39]: that was a different level of cleaning that was required as far as like sanitizing and and those sort of things. So that's by 17,000. That's in addition to the normal janitorial services they were providing. [0:24:40, 0:24:42]: No, I I understand that, but in detail [0:24:43, 0:24:47]: What is the uh specified clean? We know it's sanitizing, but [0:24:47, 0:24:53]: What are the actual functions? Is there a spray? Is there a mist? I mean, what is it? [0:24:54, 0:25:07]: Yes, so they're they're using additional disinfectant. They're also cleaning more frequently than they were in the past, especially like at the wastewater treatment plant. It was just once a week. Now they're doing that five days a week. They're [0:25:07, 0:25:17]: uh increase the level of cleaning at city hall, the municipal court, the mural manners admin building. So there are some additional services related to COVID that they're performing. [0:25:18, 0:25:25]: Well, I I I'd like to see those detail for seventeen thousand dollars. I just think that needs to be spelled out and we need to understand. [0:25:25, 0:25:30]: uh what is required. And I think they also definitely need to understand [0:25:30, 0:25:35]: uh the depth of that, I would not want them just to come in and do what they regularly do. [0:25:35, 0:25:38]: And and just go home because there's no one there. [0:25:38, 0:25:39]: Overseeing. [0:25:39, 0:25:48]: Uh, what they do. So I just like to have that spell out, Mrs. Miller, uh, at some point in time in detail, what is the um special [0:25:48, 0:25:53]: uh C D C uh guidelines cleaning. I I like to know those details. [0:25:56, 0:26:00]: Any other questions for Miss Miller or or Mr. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:26:02, 0:26:07]: Yeah, I um you know, uh I I would always and I've said this on many occasions that we have to [0:26:08, 0:26:11]: caution our I think we should caution our sales and [0:26:11, 0:26:15]: probably ask questions prior to this meeting that could get answered and [0:26:16, 0:26:22]: We have to be careful and cautious when we're speaking of a vendor or any other in any other business that does business with city and stockbridge. I think that [0:26:23, 0:26:24]: Stop bridging itself as a major [0:26:25, 0:26:26]: contract for anybody. [0:26:27, 0:26:34]: And when we we have to be careful and cautious that we're we're we're staying on track and not going into any type of belittlement areas. [0:26:35, 0:26:36]: Of any contract [0:26:36, 0:26:38]: Um anybody that's contracted with the city. [0:26:39, 0:26:39]: Um [0:26:40, 0:26:42]: Because that could be detriment beyond the [0:26:42, 0:26:44]: working with the city of Scott Bridge. So [0:26:45, 0:26:48]: I I just want us to call take cautions on those areas. [0:26:49, 0:26:51]: Thank you. Any other comments for uh [0:26:51, 0:26:52]: Ms. Miller Descius. [0:26:53, 0:26:58]: I do. Yeah, go right in, please. Um supplier evaluation is a um [0:26:59, 0:27:05]: a general function of purchasing. So most suppliers know when they have a contract, they are [0:27:06, 0:27:07]: Seem to be [0:27:08, 0:27:11]: evaluated at any time during the contract. [0:27:11, 0:27:14]: Um, it is simply my [0:27:14, 0:27:15]: Um [0:27:16, 0:27:18]: I'm just trying to understand. [0:27:18, 0:27:21]: We've had a contract with the same supplier. [0:27:21, 0:27:23]: For a number of years. [0:27:23, 0:27:29]: We need to be able to bid these out to other contractors just so that we can. [0:27:30, 0:27:31]: Um compare costs. [0:27:32, 0:27:35]: So so I see with the sanitation costs. [0:27:35, 0:27:38]: The seventeen thousand dollars that they're proposing. [0:27:39, 0:27:40]: There may be another supplier. [0:27:41, 0:27:42]: They may offer [0:27:42, 0:27:42]: Mm. [0:27:43, 0:27:51]: Discount or a cheaper price. It's not all about price, I know it's about the quality of service. However, I want to be able to compare. [0:27:51, 0:27:54]: And this doesn't give me much to compare. [0:27:54, 0:27:59]: Not only that, when we get these bids like this, I really would like to see [0:28:00, 0:28:03]: the evaluations um that were [0:28:03, 0:28:04]: Take it. [0:28:04, 0:28:06]: So I can see for myself. [0:28:06, 0:28:10]: Um and even the feedback from staff, just so I can see. [0:28:11, 0:28:14]: So that's that's my final comment. [0:28:14, 0:28:19]: Uh Mr. Mayor. Yeah, go right ahead, Mayor Proton. And this would be my final one too. [0:28:19, 0:28:20]: Um [0:28:21, 0:28:25]: Anytime a decision comes to me as an elected official. [0:28:25, 0:28:34]: Um, I think I have that right to ask, you know, questions. Also, I I really to be honest with you, um [0:28:35, 0:28:44]: I believe a representative from the company need to be here to answer those questions. I think you have a lot of folks out there who love these contracts. So I'm not going to um [0:28:45, 0:29:05]: You know, I'm not gonna try to shortchange myself and as far as not asking questions. Uh I I think this is uh my duty to ask these questions. And I'll be honest with you, uh I think a representative needs to be here to answer those questions directly, especially if they want to be it. Uh you have a lot of companies out here, small businesses. [0:29:04, 0:29:10]: that would love have a relationship with the set of Starkbridge. So uh this is the nature of the beast. [0:29:12, 0:29:13]: Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [0:29:13, 0:29:23]: Thank you. One question from Mr. Knighton. Mr. Knighton, have any staff members complained to you about any of the concerns about the cleanliness or or the upkeep from our janitorial services? [0:29:24, 0:29:35]: Uh not since they've been back here with us. I don't recall any uh real concerns that were registered. One of the things about janitorial, of course, is in a traditional environment that we're in [0:29:35, 0:29:49]: or when we're in a traditional environment, it's one of those things that usually will stick out quite a bit and you would get uh staff members who would uh register concerns uh or complaints uh about the janitorial service, but I think they've done [0:29:49, 0:29:52]: A a very good job. I'm not aware of any, you know [0:29:53, 0:29:58]: um concerns or real complaints about uh the janitorial service and uh the service they provided. [0:29:59, 0:30:06]: Okay. I I just wanted to make sure of that first and foremost. Um, because I know we but you know, we can go around and round with it. [0:30:07, 0:30:08]: Um but um [0:30:09, 0:30:12]: In regards to where we are right now. [0:30:13, 0:30:13]: Yeah. [0:30:13, 0:30:17]: Our city attorney stated that the contract [0:30:17, 0:30:20]: would be up to that and we can terminate [0:30:20, 0:30:23]: At any time within thirty days, anyway, and we're doing it. [0:30:24, 0:30:29]: for the purpose of extending it with the amount that we already have. [0:30:29, 0:30:31]: on the services that we already have. [0:30:32, 0:30:35]: Um and those services were prior to [0:30:35, 0:30:36]: COVID. [0:30:37, 0:30:48]: Um and so, you know, we could target and and make statements or say anything that they maybe they didn't specialize in doing something with COVID at the time, but that wasn't [0:30:48, 0:31:00]: you know, at the time in their contract agreement. I just ask that, you know, staff try to move this forward expeditiously. But mayor, I would like to make a motion to approve the extension of this agreement. [0:31:00, 0:31:01]: Um [0:31:02, 0:31:03]: Up to [0:31:03, 0:31:04]: One year. [0:31:04, 0:31:05]: Okay, is there a second? [0:31:07, 0:31:15]: There's a second to the motion. Uh Ms. Councilman Blount seconds that motion. All right. Further discussion. I see there's another hand up. Uh Councilman Barber, Barber, go ahead. [0:31:15, 0:31:25]: Yes, so the difference with this contract or yeah, this contract is they're adding the extra layer of cleaning with the COVID. [0:31:25, 0:31:29]: So it's not the same contract. This is something different. [0:31:29, 0:31:35]: So it should be bidded out so that new suppliers can also submit their bids for it. [0:31:36, 0:31:49]: So I want to see us do a month-to-month, at least 60 or 90 days, just so that staff has time to prepare a new scope of work for this. [0:31:50, 0:31:50]: Good. [0:31:51, 0:32:05]: My opinion. All right. So I'd like to table this if we could. Well the motion's been made, it's been seconded actually. So we're gonna have to vote on this. Uh councilman Gantt, did you have something else or you you're or or not? I I think there might be um uh I just wanna [0:32:05, 0:32:14]: Let Councilwoman Barber know that. I think we're saying the same thing. The city attorney already stated that the contract can be terminated within 30 days. [0:32:14, 0:32:19]: Each time frame. I made a motion to extend the contract up to [0:32:20, 0:32:38]: the a year, not saying a full year. And I think we all agree, I in my very initial first comment was that we we should always put different things out for bid after, you know, I believe it's two years um per different services um based off of the classes I've taken in the past. [0:32:38, 0:32:46]: Um I from my understanding, you know, when you re you rotate different types of services or whatever services we're contracting out. [0:32:46, 0:32:54]: those RFPs are rotated. So we can get and see what what bang for the butt we're getting or compare and contrast the services and what's out there. [0:32:55, 0:32:58]: I don't think we're s I think we're saying the same thing. [0:32:58, 0:33:08]: I'm not willing to I after our um public works director say that that he thinks ninety days is not enough time. [0:33:08, 0:33:10]: You know, my concern is [0:33:10, 0:33:14]: Let's give them the time to get this done. [0:33:14, 0:33:18]: And so especially when there are other things on the plate that are pending. [0:33:18, 0:33:26]: And that's that's why I I ask that we, you know, up to that time point because if we want to end the contract after 30 days, we can't. [0:33:28, 0:33:29]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [0:33:29, 0:33:34]: Uh I think the main point here is that we need uh to make sure that [0:33:34, 0:33:36]: We have other people be in. [0:33:37, 0:33:55]: We need to make sure that we have every uh more people come to the table. Uh we we've been doing things incorrectly in the past, jumping back between different vendors. We need a fair process where we we open this up so everybody can uh everybody can. [0:33:55, 0:33:58]: Uh go after the contract fairly. [0:33:58, 0:34:04]: I think the appropriate thing would be to table this and to come back to it once we got the specifics. [0:34:06, 0:34:07]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:34:09, 0:34:14]: Yeah, I I agree with Councilman Alexander, but I think that when we listen to what was said. [0:34:14, 0:34:20]: is that they can we could counsel this contract in any thirty days and once they figure out [0:34:20, 0:34:24]: Mr. Days said once they figure out the scope of work that's gonna be needed [0:34:25, 0:34:30]: then the bid the the bidding process gonna go out uh through procurement. [0:34:30, 0:34:33]: They're not saying it's not gonna go out to other people. We [0:34:33, 0:34:36]: without the without the scope of of of uh [0:34:36, 0:34:39]: s the scope of the services that we won't render [0:34:39, 0:34:44]: Until that's finalized, who you what are you baiting out if the scope of service [0:34:44, 0:34:46]: The scope of what you want is not finalized. [0:34:46, 0:34:47]: So I think [0:34:47, 0:34:52]: What you want, Miss Alexander, and I think what Miss Barber wants is that to say, Hey, let's [0:34:52, 0:34:55]: Let's hurry this thing up also and I agree with all of you all. [0:34:55, 0:34:59]: But I think in the components of what we're saying, all all of this encompasses that. [0:34:59, 0:35:00]: It it encompasses [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: Terminating the contract on any given thirty days, it encompasses [0:35:05, 0:35:07]: Uh putting it out for bed. [0:35:07, 0:35:09]: But it also encompasses bringing in [0:35:09, 0:35:11]: An uh the scope of what we want. [0:35:12, 0:35:20]: And then putting it out to bid for other companies to bid on. And right now, what we've done with this company is just allowed them to operate until we do that. [0:35:21, 0:35:22]: And so I mean [0:35:22, 0:35:24]: I mean, why would we prolong [0:35:24, 0:35:28]: That pro this process which would br what was actually [0:35:28, 0:35:31]: speedy up the process of getting other bitch out. [0:35:32, 0:35:37]: On that note, let me say let me hold stand by a second, please. Let me say this. By chance, if uh somehow we did not [0:35:38, 0:35:39]: pass this particular motion. [0:35:39, 0:35:47]: Then we'll probably have to come up with something else because obviously the if we don't pass this, right, then we won't have uh sanitation services for our buildings. This is my understanding. [0:35:48, 0:35:49]: Is that correct? [0:35:50, 0:35:51]: The contract is [0:35:51, 0:36:03]: expired and you won't be able to pay them and they're not gonna perform the services without getting paid. So with what's going on, we were just trying to give ourselves some time. We were working on a scope of services before this pandemic hit. [0:36:04, 0:36:14]: And and when this hit, we didn't want to be caught without anyone cleaning the building. So we we came in and extended until we get the scope of services. [0:36:14, 0:36:18]: furned up and ready to submit out for bid because we went through this process once before [0:36:19, 0:36:23]: We had a previous vendor, they were here for about three months, didn't perform up the standards. [0:36:24, 0:36:34]: So we had to go back to the previous vendor and so that's where we are with this one. So we're just trying to extend it so that we can continue to pay them because if we don't pay them, we won't have any janitorial services. [0:36:35, 0:36:35]: All right. [0:36:36, 0:36:39]: Miss Barber will make this the last one, even though you said this the last one was some time ago. [0:36:40, 0:36:41]: That's what you said. [0:36:41, 0:36:44]: Go right ahead. Go right ahead. [0:36:45, 0:36:47]: Looking at the staff recommendation form. [0:36:48, 0:36:52]: First one says city staff is requesting that city council extend [0:36:53, 0:36:54]: The existing agreements. [0:36:55, 0:36:56]: For one year. [0:36:57, 0:36:59]: I don't want to extend it for one year. [0:37:00, 0:37:06]: But the motions the mo let me say the motion's been made. It's not it's not it doesn't say up to one. It says up to one year. It'll probably be shorter than that. [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: I don't think you have to worry about that. But anyway. [0:37:09, 0:37:09]: So [0:37:10, 0:37:11]: What I'm asking. [0:37:11, 0:37:12]: Okay. [0:37:13, 0:37:15]: A motion has been made. So let's just [0:37:15, 0:37:17]: Okay, let's just vote then. [0:37:17, 0:37:26]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead. One last time. We've been talking. Motion's been made, it's been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:37:27, 0:37:29]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:37:30, 0:37:31]: All polls. [0:37:33, 0:37:34]: One [0:37:35, 0:37:46]: Okay, three two, the motion fails. All right. Now that that has happened, now we need we don't have any services unless we come up with some other type of objective here on having services for our city uh facilities. [0:37:47, 0:37:48]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [0:37:49, 0:37:54]: I don't believe, Mr. Aaron, did you disclose what the um date was that it expires? [0:37:56, 0:37:59]: I'd have to look back to my documents. Lindell, do you have that handy? [0:38:00, 0:38:00]: Um [0:38:01, 0:38:02]: Speaker. [0:38:08, 0:38:09]: No, I don't. [0:38:21, 0:38:39]: All right. Well, obviously you said it expired, so otherwise you have to still pay them for what they've done thus far. And now what now with this particular motion failing, uh that ends that particular contract, uh I would imagine. And uh now we have no other services. So now we we were now we gotta figure out what we're gonna do here. [0:38:39, 0:38:42]: Mr. Williams, one second, stand by a second. Mr. Williams. [0:38:42, 0:38:45]: As the attorney, you got any s legal suggestions here on this process? [0:38:46, 0:38:50]: I I think um it appears that you have uh [0:38:51, 0:38:57]: uh some council members who are willing to approve it for up to ninety days or a hundred and twenty days, perhaps a motion [0:38:58, 0:39:01]: Of that sort would be in order. We would still have the thirty day [0:39:01, 0:39:02]: Termination. [0:39:03, 0:39:12]: All right, thank you for that. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Uh yeah, I I was getting ready to make that motion uh just to extend this for for 90 days. [0:39:13, 0:39:15]: Um I also [0:39:15, 0:39:24]: Well, that's the motion, but I would like to know the uh termination date for this current uh contract. And I just want to say this to Mr. Aaron. [0:39:24, 0:39:28]: Now we've been in the pandemic since February and March. [0:39:28, 0:39:30]: And you're saying that, you know. [0:39:30, 0:39:33]: Uh, you know, we need time to to to do this and to do that. [0:39:34, 0:39:35]: I mean [0:39:35, 0:39:51]: I mean, we we've been in the pandemic since March, but I'm almost sorry to let that go. But my motion is just to extend the contract to this particular company uh for ninety days and to ask staff to uh do whatever's necessary to um put this beard back out, et cetera, et cetera. [0:39:52, 0:39:53]: A second there. [0:39:53, 0:39:55]: Councilman Barber seconds there. Any further discussion? [0:39:56, 0:40:00]: If not seeing none on Councilman Lunn, I'm sorry, go ahead. [0:40:02, 0:40:04]: Um, I I think one of the things that [0:40:04, 0:40:05]: You know [0:40:06, 0:40:09]: If this council agrees to ninety days, then so be it. [0:40:10, 0:40:13]: But we have to understand that we we've hired staff to give us [0:40:14, 0:40:17]: uh their professional opinions on whatever we're doing. [0:40:18, 0:40:22]: And when we start to say that we're gonna go beyond what staff has recommended. [0:40:23, 0:40:25]: Then we're going into areas that we've hired people to do. [0:40:26, 0:40:28]: We're going to the area of managing the city. [0:40:28, 0:40:30]: Not y you know, and and so [0:40:31, 0:40:33]: If if we got staff saying it's gonna [0:40:33, 0:40:35]: That that ninety days isn't enough. [0:40:36, 0:40:40]: Then who are we as a council to say we're gonna do ninety days and that's it? [0:40:40, 0:40:45]: regardless of what staff say, then what then then what's the purpose of getting staff's opinion? [0:40:45, 0:40:51]: So I don't agree with putting this ninety day tag on it because it's already been told to us that we can cancel it at any time. So [0:40:52, 0:40:54]: Yeah, that's my two shit. [0:40:54, 0:40:56]: Councilwoman Gann, go ahead, please. [0:40:56, 0:41:00]: Thank you. Um, I agree with Councilman Blount. I also [0:41:00, 0:41:16]: Would like to make a statement in in regards to what we're doing when we talk about small businesses and minority contractors and and other and and business contractors and and janitory services and any contracts that we have with Stockbridge when we have meetings such as these. [0:41:16, 0:41:30]: In addition to that, so I I ask that we consider that. We've received emails in the past in regards to you know some of the businesses' concerns when we do this. Um in addition to that, I would also [0:41:30, 0:41:36]: like to say, I'm gonna vote for the ninety days, but I don't agree with the ninety days because I feel like it should be up to [0:41:37, 0:41:39]: The full time frame. [0:41:39, 0:41:46]: that they should do. But we can't go without janitory services. So it's in the best interest of the city for us to do something. [0:41:46, 0:41:50]: If we're gonna have these three two votes or or whatever the case may be. [0:41:51, 0:41:54]: For something such as a janitorial service. [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: that has had not had any complaint. [0:41:57, 0:41:59]: based off of what the city manager gave. [0:41:59, 0:42:03]: So m um Miss Holliday, please make sure you put that in the records verbatim. [0:42:04, 0:42:05]: Thank you. [0:42:06, 0:42:13]: Okay, now quite a bit of discussion. We got a motion on the on the floor, been seconded. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:42:14, 0:42:17]: Okay. Four? All opposed? [0:42:18, 0:42:23]: Okay, one four to one. Four to one okay, it passes. All right, we'll move on. [0:42:24, 0:42:26]: Uh let's see here. [0:42:27, 0:42:32]: Council consideration to approve the purchase of a uh nineteen thousand five hundred pound [0:42:32, 0:42:39]: GVW Chassis with Rugby Box Dump International CV Dump Truck. [0:42:40, 0:42:47]: From Rush Truck Center of Georgia, incorporated RFP number 2019-007P. [0:42:48, 0:43:05]: Uh state contract nine nine nine nine nine dash zero zero one dash spero zero zero zero one five five an amount of sixty nine thousand seven hundred and seventy three cents and uh six excuse me six hundred sixty nine thousand six hundred seventy three and eighty four cents. [0:43:05, 0:43:10]: Funding source uh water department budget presented by Miss Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [0:43:11, 0:43:31]: Good afternoon once again, Mayor and Council. And I do I apologize for the interruption in the service, IT service. The purpose of this contract is to provide the city with an international CD dump bed truck necessary for the water and sewer department to bring and remove debris from work sites. Due to the size of the CD bed truck, [0:43:31, 0:43:42]: truck, a smaller area is impacted and drivers are not required to possess the commercial driver's license. This is a state contract in which we're asking to piggyback. Uh for the record, again it's uh [0:43:43, 0:43:45]: City of Stockbridge procurement number. [0:43:46, 0:43:46]: Uh [0:43:48, 0:43:53]: Twenty twenty, I'm sorry, twenty nineteen, zero zero zero zero zero seven P. [0:43:56, 0:43:56]: Okay. [0:43:57, 0:44:00]: Hey, Mr. Aaron, do you have anything you need to add at this time? [0:44:00, 0:44:07]: Yes, Mr. Mayor, this truck will be replaced in a nineteen eighty-seven dump truck that we're currently using that has outused its useful life. [0:44:08, 0:44:09]: Mm-hmm. Okay. [0:44:10, 0:44:13]: Council, any questions for Mr. Aaron or Lindell Miller? [0:44:14, 0:44:28]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead please. Yeah, what exactly do you do with the truck? So the public understands that we're gonna spend these funds, uh that this how much use is the truck getting and what are we going to do with it? [0:44:29, 0:44:49]: Uh the water department uses if they had a water leak, they have to remove the wet soil and bring back dry soil to fill in the holes. Also, the sewer department uses it as well. They have uh sewer right-aways and easements they're maintaining. Sometimes we have washouts, we have to haul dirt and rock to fill in those areas on on the sewer easements. [0:44:49, 0:44:51]: So that's what the truck is used for. [0:44:53, 0:44:54]: Okay. [0:44:54, 0:44:57]: Mr. Bar uh Ms. Barber, go ahead please. You got a question? [0:44:57, 0:45:03]: Um yes, for this RFP I wanted to know if there were other suppliers. [0:45:04, 0:45:08]: Um this is a piggyback contract, a state contract in which we're piggybacking. [0:45:09, 0:45:09]: Yeah. [0:45:13, 0:45:15]: Okay, any other questions? [0:45:16, 0:45:24]: Mr. Mayor, yeah, go right ahead, Mayor Protestant. I'm just curious of uh if Mr. Air know the mileage uh on the old uh truck. [0:45:25, 0:45:27]: It's thirty three years old. [0:45:28, 0:45:35]: And I just know that it it's in bad shape and it it it just sounded a health concern to people that are driving and operating that truck. [0:45:36, 0:45:38]: Thank you. [0:45:38, 0:45:40]: Okay, I'm sorry, Miss Barber. [0:45:40, 0:45:47]: I wanna tell how did um staff um decide on this supplier? What [0:45:47, 0:45:48]: Criteria. [0:45:48, 0:45:50]: Was used to [0:45:50, 0:45:51]: Is that [0:45:52, 0:45:54]: That's just you want to explain the scope. [0:45:55, 0:46:00]: No, I wanna know how did you decide on this particular [0:46:00, 0:46:04]: um supplier to piggyback off this particular contract. [0:46:05, 0:46:25]: Well it's it's a state contract and typically the state contract gives you the better price than if you bidded it out. They vetted all these vendors and they provided them a scope of work or specifications on different trucks. So you're able to get a better price by going the state contract than if you typically bidded it out. [0:46:26, 0:46:28]: Okay, and one more question. So [0:46:29, 0:46:31]: This is coming from which account? [0:46:32, 0:46:36]: This is coming from the water department budget. They had budgeted to replace the truck. [0:46:36, 0:46:39]: Okay, I don't have a financial statement or [0:46:39, 0:46:41]: anything so I don't know. [0:46:42, 0:46:45]: what the balance is of this account, I something I've asked for. [0:46:48, 0:46:52]: Is the treasurer and the funds available in their budget for it? [0:46:55, 0:46:59]: Mr. Wiggins, can you assist with that uh account number? [0:47:00, 0:47:08]: Yeah, the cat I mean pr it it's I'll have to I can look at that too. So [0:47:09, 0:47:12]: So I wanna know what the balance is. [0:47:12, 0:47:14]: Right. [0:47:15, 0:47:16]: I'm sorry. [0:47:17, 0:47:17]: Really? [0:47:19, 0:47:30]: Yeah, I think you said he has to look it up. It'll be coming in kind of garbled there, Mr. Wiggins. Okay, so one forward for any item that's on the agenda that requires an expenditure. [0:47:31, 0:47:34]: I wanna see what the balance is before I'll approve it. [0:47:35, 0:47:40]: They have budgeted a hundred and twenty thousand dollars vehicles in their budget. [0:47:41, 0:47:42]: That's correct. [0:47:42, 0:47:47]: But I don't know what other expenses may have been applied to this account. [0:47:47, 0:47:49]: So I don't know what the balance is currently. [0:47:50, 0:47:52]: That's why I'm asking for a financial statement. [0:47:55, 0:47:58]: Okay. And Mr. Alexander, go ahead, sir. [0:47:59, 0:48:01]: Go ahead. Casmine Alexander, go ahead. [0:48:07, 0:48:09]: Yeah, uh I'll just uh [0:48:10, 0:48:30]: I just wanna understand um the truck and again um the the the the make sure that we're getting uh what we truly uh what how much usage is the truck getting and what it I I wanna understand, is it being used daily, being used weekly? How often is it being used in in in in the in this in the in the [0:48:29, 0:48:31]: The scope of what you're doing. [0:48:31, 0:48:32]: How often do you? [0:48:33, 0:48:35]: It's being used two to three times per week. [0:48:36, 0:48:39]: At different location. Like I said, the water department uses it. [0:48:40, 0:48:42]: what we currently have in the store department as well. [0:48:43, 0:48:58]: Okay, so you you're saying you get to use it about two to three times a week in the course of of what you or uh what you're doing, uh, in terms of moving this forward. I think uh the concerns surrounding this particular [0:49:01, 0:49:03]: That comes to this council on a regular basis. [0:49:04, 0:49:09]: And this council always says yes, there's some concerns amongst these [0:49:09, 0:49:25]: uh counsel about the uh some of the things being executed in that particular department. I want to ask the staff, is there a deadline is this a firm deadline to get this particular price for this particular truck? [0:49:25, 0:49:27]: Or could um [0:49:27, 0:49:29]: If it if we decided to wait. [0:49:30, 0:49:38]: Then what uh what are the ramifications of waiting? It's a state contract, so is the price good for how the state the price will still be good if we do decide to delay? [0:49:39, 0:49:48]: Well, this state contract, this particular state contract expires August 31st, 2020. I will have to check to see if the state intends to renew it. [0:49:49, 0:49:57]: Okay, so in other words, we would be able to revisit this at the work session, then you would be able to find out find out about it at that time before the work session. [0:49:58, 0:50:04]: I can go online to see if it's going to be renewed. Um if not, I would have to contact the state of Georgia in the morning. [0:50:05, 0:50:24]: Right. So by the next meeting you would be able to find this in particular issue. Yes. Okay. Okay. Based based on that we can I think we Oh just stand by please. Um Mr. Aaron, you need to ru one a second, Mr. Aaron. I wasn't finished, so please let me come back to me. [0:50:24, 0:50:26]: I will. Go ahead, Mr. Aaron. Go ahead, sir. [0:50:27, 0:50:38]: My only concern is you got staff driving in a vehicle that's thirty-three years old that has far outlived this useful life expectancy for what is used for to haul and remove debris. [0:50:38, 0:50:41]: And my only concern is you got people that are driving it. [0:50:42, 0:50:46]: And especially when you're using a thirty-three year old vehicle. [0:50:47, 0:50:49]: Okay, Mr. Allison, go ahead now. [0:50:55, 0:50:56]: Cosman Alexander. [0:50:59, 0:51:02]: Looks like can you hear me? Go ahead now. Go ahead. Can you hear me? [0:51:02, 0:51:04]: Yes, I can hear you. [0:51:06, 0:51:09]: I think we'll have the answer for what we're looking for. [0:51:09, 0:51:12]: by the time things come around for the work session and um [0:51:13, 0:51:16]: I think we need to have some further discussions about [0:51:16, 0:51:35]: Um and uh I think we'll be having that discussion with Mr. Knighton uh and then this uh Mr. Aaron as well about uh and we've had been having some ongoing concerns. So until uh we get some further clarification on no particular concerns, uh we know we've been open the wallet fairly. [0:51:36, 0:51:37]: Uh liberally. [0:51:37, 0:51:41]: And we wanna I personally want to see some return. [0:51:41, 0:52:01]: on those particular investments. When you come to us, we give you what you need. I always ask what you need. I need some things in terms of what I need to see executed in the city. I want to vote, I want to make a motion to table this particular issue until our next meeting so we can get some clarification [0:52:01, 0:52:06]: And we can have some further discussions about um [0:52:06, 0:52:09]: Some uh this this particular part. [0:52:09, 0:52:10]: I second that. [0:52:11, 0:52:18]: Uh Councilman Barber second that further discussion and earlier I forgot Mr. Knighton, you had you had your hand up. Uh you needed to say something, sir. [0:52:19, 0:52:22]: No, I I said we was gonna mention that a that a vehicle um [0:52:23, 0:52:34]: of of you know that old probably is run into a situation also where you don't have any parts for that vehicle as things uh d begin to deteriorate and so the parts are probably [0:52:34, 0:52:42]: out of service and out of stock as well. But um obviously we'll uh we will follow the council's direction with how you want to move on this issue. [0:52:43, 0:52:44]: Mr. Wiggins, go ahead, please. [0:52:44, 0:52:46]: I want to um [0:52:46, 0:52:46]: Uh [0:52:47, 0:52:50]: Let Councilman Barber know that no funds have been [0:52:50, 0:52:52]: It's spending out that uh account. [0:52:53, 0:52:54]: So it still has a hundred and twenty [0:52:55, 0:52:56]: thousand dollars budget for it. [0:52:58, 0:52:59]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:53:01, 0:53:02]: Once again [0:53:03, 0:53:09]: We either gonna ask questions before the meeting or we're gonna table everything till we get the to till we get the answers. [0:53:09, 0:53:13]: All of these questions could be asked prior to this meeting. We don't have to keep tabling anything. [0:53:14, 0:53:18]: These are simple questions that could have been answered right here at this meeting so we can move forward. [0:53:18, 0:53:22]: And work on other issues come come to in uh at the work session. [0:53:23, 0:53:25]: We got to start asking questions. [0:53:25, 0:53:28]: And and making decisions at these meetings are we're gonna continue to keep [0:53:30, 0:53:33]: The little information we're asking for, that could have been answered. [0:53:34, 0:53:37]: I'm just saying those those questions could have been answered prior to this meeting. [0:53:37, 0:53:41]: And we didn't wouldn't have to table it when I agree with Councilman Alexander when we asked. [0:53:42, 0:53:44]: that what do you need? What do you need? What do you need? [0:53:44, 0:53:48]: I wouldn't want to have a vehicle for thirty three years old trying to work in it. [0:53:48, 0:53:53]: And so if we if we need a vehicle that's thirty three years old, that's uh that's almost low hanging fruit. [0:53:54, 0:53:55]: That it needs to be changed out. [0:53:56, 0:54:04]: That vehicle needs to be changed out and whatever needs to be done for a surplus in that vehicle to get whatever we can get out of that vehicle, so be it. But that is [0:54:04, 0:54:07]: That is low hanging fruit that needs to be replaced. [0:54:07, 0:54:10]: And so now we're gonna table it to the end of the month. [0:54:11, 0:54:16]: table to the end of the month when staff that's over these people are saying that the vehicle is unsafe. [0:54:17, 0:54:23]: But now we're gonna table at the end of the month when questions could have been asked prior to this meeting and we could start moving forward getting the vehicle. It just doesn't [0:54:23, 0:54:25]: It it just doesn't make sense to me. [0:54:26, 0:54:27]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:54:28, 0:54:30]: Well, I've been asking. [0:54:30, 0:54:32]: Since January. [0:54:32, 0:54:35]: Please provide a financial statement. [0:54:35, 0:54:37]: with every agenda item. [0:54:37, 0:54:38]: For every [0:54:39, 0:54:39]: Meeting. [0:54:41, 0:54:44]: I'm not going to keep asking those questions prior to a meeting. [0:54:45, 0:54:46]: I need [0:54:46, 0:54:49]: The financial statements with the balances and [0:54:50, 0:54:52]: Same time I received [0:54:52, 0:54:54]: The meeting agendas. [0:54:54, 0:54:58]: So that way I don't have to table things or vote to table things. [0:54:59, 0:55:08]: That's all. Um I um no doubt, I'm sure that this truck is needed. I'm sure it is. It's needed. But two weeks from now is not gonna [0:55:09, 0:55:11]: Hope it's not gonna cause a [0:55:11, 0:55:12]: Big problem. [0:55:13, 0:55:13]: So [0:55:14, 0:55:15]: That's all. [0:55:15, 0:55:18]: Ms. Alexander, you had something else, sir, you need to say? [0:55:20, 0:55:23]: Uh I uh no, I think we're ready to vote now. [0:55:23, 0:55:32]: All right, then uh if there are the if there are no other comments, the motion has been made to table this and second it. So uh all in favor of that motion please indicate. [0:55:34, 0:55:36]: Three opposed. [0:55:37, 0:55:42]: Two motion passed three to two. It'll be tabled to our next council work session. [0:55:43, 0:55:51]: Council consideration approved the purchase of a 2021 Kinworth Kinworth T four seventy tandem axle axle. [0:55:51, 0:56:00]: V Contruck under state contract nine nine nine nine-001 dash SPD 00000155. [0:56:00, 0:56:03]: From M H C Kinw Kinworth. [0:56:03, 0:56:09]: in the amount of four hundred and six thousand nine hundred and twenty two dollars, funding source sewer fund balance, which is one hundred and eighty three [0:56:10, 0:56:18]: thousand one hundred and fourteen dollars and ninety cents and a water fund balance of 142 thousand four hundred and twenty two dollars and seventy cents [0:56:18, 0:56:24]: And stormwater fund balance eighty one thousand three hundred eighty four dollars and forty cents. Miss Miller. [0:56:24, 0:56:26]: And Mr. Aaron, please. [0:56:26, 0:56:46]: Good afternoon once again, Mayor and Council. The procurement division is requesting again for City Council's approval to take it back the state of Georgia contract for truck chases and truck bodies. City of Stockbridge procurement number for the record is 2019-0007P for the Public Works Department for the purchase of a 2021 Ken. [0:56:46, 0:57:05]: T470 Tandem Axel for$110,525, and then a 2020 VICON 311 HE 1500 for$296,397 in an estimated overall amount of$406,922. [0:57:07, 0:57:08]: Sarah, do you have anything else you need to add, sir? [0:57:09, 0:57:29]: Uh yes, Mr. Mayor. This vehicle currently, like in the sewer department, we'll use it. The sewer department has a jetter where they clean out sewer lines, but mainly using the jetter, you're just pushing debris from one location to another. You never really get the debris out of the sewer main. The Vatcon truck, you can use that to vacuum the debris like grease and rock. [0:57:29, 0:57:43]: rags and other things out of the sewer main so that you don't have backups. Also, stormwater department can use it. Currently we don't have a way of cleaning out a storm drain if if it gets filled with leaves and sediment and other kind of debris, the background will clean those out. [0:57:44, 0:58:04]: And vacuum that as well. And also you can clean out lift stations with it. You can clean out the clear well at the the water plant that we have to clear out periodically. You can also use it to excavate utilities when you're working around sensitive areas like underground power lines, underground gas mains. You don't have to worry about a spark from a [0:58:04, 0:58:05]: Um [0:58:05, 0:58:09]: blade on a backhoe or excavator so [0:58:09, 0:58:15]: This will be used by three departments and it will greatly improve what we're trying to do in the these departments. [0:58:16, 0:58:18]: Okay, questions, council. [0:58:20, 0:58:23]: If no questions, a motion to accept this proposal. [0:58:24, 0:58:25]: Yeah. [0:58:26, 0:58:28]: Is there a motion to accept this proposal? [0:58:32, 0:58:38]: All right, so it's no motion. I imagine it can't second it. So this this is dead in this aspect. [0:58:39, 0:58:40]: So um [0:58:40, 0:58:45]: If we don't motion, vo uh where's Mr. Williams? Need your legal advisor. [0:58:45, 0:58:55]: All right. This this is no motion. No can't second, can't approve it. And so out my back up, Ms. Wayne, before I ask that question. Uh Dash is how old did you mention how old this vehicle is, by the way? [0:58:55, 0:59:10]: No, sir. This will be a new piece of equipment for the department. We don't currently have it. Ah, okay. When we need those services, we uh use an outside vendor to provide those services for us. So you're spending money to pay somebody else to conduct. [0:59:10, 0:59:13]: I I I can now, but stand by please. [0:59:13, 0:59:19]: So otherwise we're using outside vendor paying someone to conduct the business that this truck would do. Is that what you're telling us now? [0:59:20, 0:59:20]: Yes, sir. [0:59:22, 0:59:27]: Out of curiosity, how mu how do you have an idea how much that we've been spending over the yearly basis for something like this? [0:59:27, 0:59:35]: I know Sewer spends an average of about forty-five thousand dollars a year on those services. Water probably another fifteen or twenty. [0:59:35, 0:59:41]: with them excavating services for them to make repairs. So you're probably spending between sixty and seventy a year. [0:59:41, 0:59:48]: So if we had this truck, then someone so someone on the staff would be qualified to utilize this truck as well. Is that correct? [0:59:49, 1:00:03]: Yes, sir. Our water superintendent has 30 years of experience working with the Macon Water Authority and utility contractors and well versed at using this piece of equipment. And also we'll get training for additional staff on how to use those services as well. [1:00:03, 1:00:06]: All right. Good deal. Uh Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:00:07, 1:00:12]: Mayor, I had a problem with my uh audio with my computer and stuff just then. I was gonna actually [1:00:13, 1:00:15]: do the motion to a for approval of this item. [1:00:17, 1:00:20]: Okay. [1:00:21, 1:00:29]: uh motion on the floor to uh well no we didn't have a motion at all excuse me so you got there wasn't a motion i'm making a motion okay you're making a motion is there a second to that motion [1:00:30, 1:00:31]: А секи [1:00:31, 1:00:37]: Okay, now is the second to Miss Gan second the motion. Okay. Now discussion. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, sir. You had your hand up. [1:00:37, 1:00:42]: Ms. Alexander. Yeah, uh now this is one of the areas [1:00:42, 1:00:43]: Yes, can you hear me? [1:00:44, 1:00:45]: Oh yeah, I hear you go ahead. [1:00:46, 1:00:47]: Well yeah. [1:00:47, 1:00:48]: I hear you. [1:00:53, 1:00:59]: Right, thank you so much. I wanna make sure you do hear me'cause my internet keeps saying it's unstable. I guess there's something going on in the area. [1:01:00, 1:01:15]: Uh in terms of this vehicle and then the usage of it. If we're using six it costs us sixty thousand dollars a year in order to use this particular vehicle. And it's almost what? How much? How many thousands? Give me the total price again. [1:01:19, 1:01:21]: Miss L Miss Miller, you're you've [1:01:21, 1:01:22]: Your book. [1:01:22, 1:01:29]: You're on mute. There you go. I I do apologize. Uh it's four hundred and six thousand nine hundred and twenty-two thousand dollars. [1:01:29, 1:01:46]: Right. So in order for us to see I mean, we paying somebody fifty thousand dollars a year. That's ten years in order to re ten years of fifty thousand dollar payments each year before anything actually occurs where we would actually be in a savings position. [1:01:47, 1:02:07]: I want to take a little bit more time to look at this particular issue in itself. And again, I just want to re-iterize there's some discussions that need to be had with this department because we open up the wallet liberally for this particular department, but there are some accountability issues that need to be dealt with. [1:02:07, 1:02:07]: In terms of [1:02:08, 1:02:13]: uh this city and the overall appearance and everything that we're seeing. So until that point comes [1:02:14, 1:02:19]: We we did asking for five hundred thousand dollars. Uh I wanna see [1:02:19, 1:02:26]: The I wanna be able to see the difference that being made in the in the items that have been requested. I'm not seeing that as of yet. [1:02:27, 1:02:41]: Well let me mention this, uh, Councilman Alexander. The other two issues on the vehicles were well over thirty years old. So I would imagine if we we purchased a vehicle it'll probably last a good thirty years. So the venture would be a a savings per se on that. Just my rough thought process and guess of that. [1:02:42, 1:02:54]: Ms. Dan, go ahead, please. And thank you, Mayor. That's exactly what I wanted to ask Mr. Aaron. Mr. Aaron, do you know the estimate the longevity of of large vehicles such as those? Heavy duty? [1:02:55, 1:02:57]: But this you're talking twenty to twenty five years. [1:02:58, 1:02:58]: Okay. [1:02:58, 1:03:05]: And and and I that's all I just wanted to make sure because uh Mr. Councilman Alexander's uh [1:03:05, 1:03:23]: concern was very valid. I mean, if we are, you know, it would be under it takes about ten years to make up for what we paid. But if it if it extends for that, the lifetime life expectancy of that vehicle is twenty five years, then I'm okay with it. I appreciate that. Thank you. [1:03:24, 1:03:33]: Any other comments, uh questions, concerns? If not, motion was made to accept this. It's been second. All in favor motion, please indicate. [1:03:35, 1:03:36]: All in favor of motion. [1:03:36, 1:03:38]: Okay, I got two all pose. [1:03:40, 1:03:43]: Okay, motion fails, two to three. [1:03:43, 1:03:44]: Okay. [1:03:44, 1:03:49]: On that note, uh we now have uh my comments. First of all, I want to say [1:03:49, 1:03:53]: Happy birthday, Starberry's once again. We made it through a hundred years in incorporation. [1:03:53, 1:03:54]: Of a city. [1:03:54, 1:04:02]: Now we got uh next hundred years go. Can't wait till the two hundred years cell uh celebration, but I won't be here for that unless you believe in reincarnation, okay? [1:04:03, 1:04:07]: But uh uh God bless the city itself and I'll tell you twenty twenty one. [1:04:07, 1:04:14]: uh will be a year to be off the chain, right? We're gonna make up for everything that we didn't get a chance to do in twenty twenty. [1:04:14, 1:04:23]: And by the way, just so you know that uh the Henry County turns 200 years old in uh next year as well. So as we regroup on our celebration. [1:04:23, 1:04:26]: the county will be also celebrating no two in a year bicentennial. [1:04:27, 1:04:29]: So I'm pretty sure we'll be actively engaged in that. [1:04:30, 1:04:50]: I want to also mention to you that uh fortunately uh Armin Kane, well, Stockbridge resident, well-renowned Stockbridge resident, obviously passed not too long ago. So condolences to his family and prayers to them in this aspect and dealing with this and the loss of their their spouse, husband, father, friend uh during this most difficult time. So keep them in prayer. [1:04:49, 1:04:50]: Yeah. [1:04:51, 1:05:02]: On that note, on a public health issue, uh we this last Saturday gave well over nine hundred uh masks and hand sanitizers uh to citizens of Stockbridge. So [1:05:02, 1:05:06]: Keep it up, folks. You've got to continue to be safe, be vigilant. [1:05:06, 1:05:19]: All right, they call it the three W's. Wash your hands, wear your mask, and watch your distance. So when you're out in public, stay at least six distance for folks and keep safe. We're going to be in this for at least another six months, easily. [1:05:19, 1:05:32]: Easily. It's not going away any anytime soon. So we got to continue to be vigilant on this. And obviously, as you well know, that we have here in Stockbridge a Wear Your Mask campaign. So we want to emphasize that. Continue to be safe. You got to do that. [1:05:32, 1:05:33]: All right. [1:05:33, 1:05:41]: Coronavirus is no joke. If you if you think it is, ask someone who has it and survived. Unfortunately, ask someone and may have lost someone. [1:05:41, 1:05:43]: All right, they'll tell you serious. All right. [1:05:44, 1:05:59]: Um happy Labor Day. All right. So coming up on Labor Day here shortly. Obviously the year is moving right along. So happy Labor Day, everybody, in this aspect as well. And um I will tell you, I have to read something here that the clerk gave me. [1:06:00, 1:06:20]: And this deals with the census. The census, folks, is extremely important. Okay. Now, this so happens that the U.S. Census Bureau has announced that uh the self-response phase, the self-response phase of the 2020 census uh campaign has changed, the deadline has changed. Originally, you will be able to do [1:06:20, 1:06:32]: do everything you need to do for the census by the thirty first of October. Well it has changed. It's now thirty thirty September. So that means that if you have collections by phone, in person, or online, well end on thirty September. [1:06:33, 1:06:40]: So one October you can't do it anymore. So if you haven't filled out your census, haven't been able to do the census, please do so. [1:06:40, 1:06:49]: After thirty September, there'll be what you call enumerators that will come out uh and knock on your door if you have not filled that census uh information out. It's very important. [1:06:49, 1:06:51]: for you to fill out the census information. [1:06:52, 1:06:54]: It's uh we everybody s needs to be counted. [1:06:54, 1:06:57]: Little babies need to be count as well. All right. [1:06:57, 1:07:00]: Everybody needs to be counted. It's it's a lot of funds and money. [1:07:01, 1:07:04]: Funds and money to the city once you're counted. So you're you're important. [1:07:05, 1:07:07]: You finish out your census, please. [1:07:07, 1:07:09]: Uh let's see here. [1:07:09, 1:07:12]: Uh what else did I da da da da da da uh [1:07:13, 1:07:13]: Oh. [1:07:14, 1:07:16]: If you haven't voted, folks, the primary [1:07:17, 1:07:20]: You know, run off for the primaries tomorrow. So if you haven't voted, go vote. [1:07:21, 1:07:22]: You need to go vote. [1:07:22, 1:07:30]: Okay, please do that. And if you haven't registered to vote, you still have a chance to register to vote for the general election, which is November third. [1:07:30, 1:07:33]: But you have to register prior to October fifth. [1:07:33, 1:07:35]: Arrest her, all right. [1:07:35, 1:07:40]: And once you do that, you'll be illegal. You can actually vote in a in the general election, which is November third. [1:07:41, 1:07:41]: Mind you. [1:07:42, 1:07:44]: The right to vote is is your constitutional right. [1:07:45, 1:07:52]: May plenty of people died, sacrificed their lives, blood, sweat, and tears for the right to vote. Do that. You must vote. [1:07:52, 1:07:53]: It's your duty to do that. [1:07:54, 1:07:58]: All right, on that note I think that's all the comments I had. My three minutes is probably up anyway. [1:07:59, 1:08:02]: So in reference to meetings uh that we have upcoming. [1:08:03, 1:08:06]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting, which is Friday, October fourteenth. [1:08:06, 1:08:08]: Nine AM by Zoom. [1:08:08, 1:08:11]: Downtown Development Authority meetings Tuesday, August eighteenth. [1:08:12, 1:08:13]: Six o'clock by Zoom. [1:08:14, 1:08:19]: Youth Council Advisory Meeting is Tuesday, August eighteenth, six thirty by Zoom. [1:08:19, 1:08:31]: The City Council work session is Tuesday, August twenty-fifth, six thirty by Zoom. And then the planning commission meeting is Thursday, August twenty-seventh, six thirty by Zoom as well. [1:08:31, 1:08:45]: Oh, I know what I forgot. Public Health Department. Make sure if you haven't gotten tested, or if you need to get tested, 800-847-4262. 800-847-4262. Heritage Senior Center in Madonna is open daily. [1:08:46, 1:08:49]: All right, make a reservation, go there and get programmed, go get tested. [1:08:50, 1:08:55]: All right. So I believe that is it. On that note, I need a motion to [1:08:55, 1:08:56]: Adjourn to meeting. [1:08:58, 1:08:59]: Some [1:08:59, 1:09:00]: Is there a second? [1:09:00, 1:09:01]: They can [1:09:01, 1:09:06]: A second, second I got Barber seconded, okay. Uh so on that notion, all in favor please indicate. [1:09:07, 1:09:08]: All right. [1:09:08, 1:09:10]: Yes, adjourn. We're adjourned. [1:09:10, 1:09:11]: Good evening. [1:09:11, 1:09:13]: It will. All right. [1:09:13, 1:09:14]: A night. [1:09:14, 1:09:15]: Good night. [1:09:15, 1:09:16]: Good night.

--- title: Urban Redevelopment Agency Agenda date: 2020-08-04 source: 2020-08-04_Urban_Redevelopment_Agency_Agenda.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:02]: Tuesday, August fourth, twenty twenty. [0:00:03, 0:00:05]: And so I'd like to call it order. [0:00:05, 0:00:07]: And invocation. Mr. Williams, please. [0:00:08, 0:00:28]: You bow your heads, everyone. Dear Lord, we just thank you for this day. We thank you for bringing us this far and giving us the privilege of doing the business of the people of the city of Stockbridge. Thank you for all the blessings you provided on this city. And we ask to be your hands and your feet in laying the foundation for more blessings to come. [0:00:28, 0:00:28]: Um [0:00:29, 0:00:33]: And we thank you for keeping us healthy and safe during these times and [0:00:34, 0:00:36]: We pray for the families and the victims of [0:00:36, 0:00:41]: Of COVID nineteen, the families and the victims of violence across this country and [0:00:41, 0:00:46]: Today we pray for the family and victims of the terrible tragedy in Lebanon. [0:00:46, 0:00:52]: We know that uh you are in charge, and and we know that you can bring wisdom and peace. [0:00:52, 0:01:03]: um to all of us. And uh we just ask that uh you be with us today as we do the business of the people of Stockbridge. All these things in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:01:03, 0:01:04]: Amen. [0:01:05, 0:01:08]: All right, uh let's stand for the pleasure leaders, please. [0:01:11, 0:01:20]: I pledge allegiance to the flag United. [0:01:21, 0:01:28]: One nation under God, both liberty and justice for all. [0:01:31, 0:01:33]: Madam Clerk, Rocall, please. [0:01:35, 0:01:36]: Maybe four. [0:01:37, 0:01:37]: Resident. [0:01:38, 0:01:40]: Councilman Alexander. [0:01:40, 0:01:41]: Uh huh. [0:01:41, 0:01:43]: Councilwoman Bar. [0:01:44, 0:01:44]: Present. [0:01:48, 0:01:49]: Councilman Blount. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: President [0:01:52, 0:01:54]: Council Woman Gantt. [0:01:55, 0:01:56]: Present. [0:01:57, 0:02:00]: And Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:02:03, 0:02:06]: He he's on I see him, did he know it's I see you but you're muted. [0:02:17, 0:02:21]: Councilman, we can't hear you. I see him online, but he's muted. [0:02:24, 0:02:25]: I don't know. [0:02:27, 0:02:31]: Thomas, there you go. Present. Okay, good deal. There we go. All right. [0:02:32, 0:02:33]: Okay, on that note. [0:02:33, 0:02:35]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Okay. President. [0:02:37, 0:02:38]: Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? [0:02:38, 0:02:58]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. On that note, under the sta state law, the authority for the uh that governs uh urban redevelopment uh agencies, I'm going to acknowledge the fact that I'm going to be the chair. I'd like to appoint Mayor Pro Tem Thomas as the as the vice chair, and uh on that aspect. Okay, and that runs along the same lines of what [0:02:58, 0:03:00]: our city government is at this point. [0:03:00, 0:03:03]: Now on that note, I'd like to have a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:03:05, 0:03:06]: Tamo. [0:03:06, 0:03:07]: The second [0:03:08, 0:03:14]: A second. Okay. Councilman Barber seconds. Okay, number one, real estate matters related to an amphitheater. [0:03:15, 0:03:16]: Mr Williams, please. [0:03:16, 0:03:23]: Um thank you, sir. Um as you will recall at the last council meeting uh the [0:03:23, 0:03:28]: Council adopted a resolution that designated the city council as the [0:03:29, 0:03:34]: board for the urban redevelopment agency. And part of the rationale for doing that is there are [0:03:35, 0:03:40]: pending real estate matters um that are necess necessary to be dealt with. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: um in connection with the amphitheater. And one of the things that was [0:03:45, 0:03:52]: Acknowledged was the need to have a an easement uh made out in favor of Georgia Power so they can install. [0:03:53, 0:03:54]: A power line for [0:03:55, 0:03:56]: The amphitheatre [0:03:56, 0:04:00]: Um and so what will need to happen tonight is [0:04:00, 0:04:19]: uh a motion to ratify the execution of that easement uh by the chair who is uh who is the mayor. I'd like to share the screen uh with you all so you all can see exactly uh what that easement uh the footprint of the easement is. [0:04:19, 0:04:23]: And so let's see if this works. Can everybody see that? [0:04:24, 0:04:42]: And now we can. I should be able to see it. Okay. And can you see my cursors making a circle near the bottom? Yes. Middle bottom. Okay. Um, just north of uh my cursor is the City Hall. And there's an existing power line that that is installed right there that feeds City Hall. [0:04:43, 0:04:49]: And so that power line is proposed to be extended across the parking lot to a box here. [0:04:50, 0:04:59]: And it will extend around the amphitheater to a box roughly here. And you can kind of faintly see the footprint of the actual amphitheater right here. [0:04:59, 0:05:19]: And it will wrap all the way around and then come back to a uh junction right here. So that's what the easement does. Um the mayor um uh in his capacity as chair of the URA has already executed the easement and we provided it. And so power or work should be underway shortly. Um, but this is uh you know. [0:05:19, 0:05:24]: It's already done and we just need a a motion to ratify the action taken by the mayor. [0:05:25, 0:05:27]: Question. Mayor. Mr. Mayor. [0:05:28, 0:05:28]: Yeah. [0:05:29, 0:05:32]: Go ahead. Go ahead. Gantt, go ahead. [0:05:33, 0:05:38]: Thank you. I'd like to make a motion to ratify the um urban redevelopment. [0:05:38, 0:05:40]: As as stated by [0:05:40, 0:05:41]: Our city attorney. [0:05:42, 0:05:43]: Questions. [0:05:43, 0:05:43]: Like a [0:05:44, 0:05:47]: Yeah I'd miss the second. [0:05:48, 0:05:50]: I think. [0:05:51, 0:05:56]: I'm sorry, I've I'm hearing two or three people at one time. Who made the second? Mr. Blount made the second. [0:05:57, 0:06:00]: Glenn. Okay, thank you. All right. Questions? [0:06:00, 0:06:08]: Point of order. What what's going on? Go ahead. Did you open the floor for a motion? And then second of all, we have questions for discussion. [0:06:08, 0:06:15]: Yeah, I did open a more yeah yes I did. Okay. All right. I will I have questions. Um in terms of this I have questions. [0:06:16, 0:06:17]: In terms of this um [0:06:17, 0:06:22]: uh easement in this power line. Is this underground utilities? Are they going underground with this? [0:06:23, 0:06:23]: Yes, sir. [0:06:24, 0:06:31]: Okay, so from the current spot right now there will be uh the where the dotted line is indicated, everything will be underground. [0:06:32, 0:06:34]: That that's my understanding, yes, sir. [0:06:34, 0:06:36]: Okay, thank you. [0:06:36, 0:06:38]: Mr. Mayor. Yes sir, go right in, please. [0:06:39, 0:06:48]: I I wanna back up a little bit. I was waiting to the appropriate time to ask a couple of questions. Go right in. Um I I think when you open the meeting up and [0:06:49, 0:07:04]: you appointed yourself and you appointed me as the vice. Um I I I I mean, I I don't have an issue with that. I thought we would have some discussion uh before we got into the agenda because I had a couple of questions I wanted to uh ask Mr. Williams. [0:07:05, 0:07:08]: We'll go ahead and ask him. Okay. So uh Mr. Williams [0:07:09, 0:07:13]: Um going back to I believe it was two tausend five. [0:07:14, 0:07:18]: When the um the inaugural uh URA [0:07:19, 0:07:20]: Um [0:07:21, 0:07:28]: How how was that board appointed? And and my research showed that [0:07:28, 0:07:31]: Uh, that those board members were [0:07:31, 0:07:33]: non elected officials. [0:07:34, 0:07:35]: Um [0:07:35, 0:07:38]: I'm my question is what code [0:07:38, 0:07:46]: uh sort of state that I'm I'm just trying to get some clarification uh on that. I'm I'm trying to uh educate myself as well. [0:07:46, 0:07:51]: Uh because I am a little familiar with the uh original URA board. [0:07:51, 0:08:11]: And it just seems that the way things were appointed, the way members were appointed and the officers were appointed, uh, it seems to be a little different now. Uh can you share that in a light on on the previous, on the inaugural uh URA as far as the um elected, well the offices, if you will. [0:08:11, 0:08:28]: So can you share that history with with all of us? The the only thing I can confirm is that at that point the mayor and council of the city did appoint uh members of the of the community a separate set of people to serve as the URA board. [0:08:28, 0:08:35]: Um how they uh whether the mayor appointed officers at that point, um, I would have to research that. [0:08:36, 0:08:41]: Um so I don't know the answer to that. Um, all I know is what the code provides that. [0:08:41, 0:08:43]: Um if the mayor [0:08:43, 0:08:50]: Uh well, let me just say the mayor should have appointed um officers uh when the board was established originally. [0:08:50, 0:08:55]: Um but whether that was done, I I can't speak to that. We can confirm that. Um but [0:08:56, 0:08:59]: The the original UR URA did meet [0:08:59, 0:09:08]: somewhat regularly during the first several years. And then there was a long gap of time in which it did not meet. [0:09:08, 0:09:26]: And then in two thousand fifteen and um in more recent memory, you all designated the DDA to carry out those functions. So so that's the history is is as much as I can give. But whether the original uh board uh had officers appointed by the mayor, I don't know the answer. [0:09:27, 0:09:32]: Well, I'm just sort of you know, in my research I did not find that and I just wanna make sure [0:09:32, 0:09:35]: uh that we're sort of you know doing this correctly. [0:09:36, 0:09:38]: I would hate for us to have to come back. [0:09:38, 0:09:43]: Um and do some things and we haven't even talked about the swearing in of [0:09:44, 0:09:47]: The council members even as the URA [0:09:47, 0:09:50]: So I you know, just some questions. [0:09:50, 0:09:51]: А сфорс. [0:09:52, 0:09:54]: that I'm sorta having a little issue with. [0:09:54, 0:09:57]: But um I I just wanted to state that for the record. [0:09:58, 0:10:03]: That that's fair enough. And and under the Urban Redevelopment Uh Powers Act. [0:10:03, 0:10:08]: The um the powers are vested in the city. [0:10:08, 0:10:16]: Um and so the the the and then the city is allowed to designate an entity, whether it's a URA or [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: A um [0:10:18, 0:10:26]: A DDA to serve in that capacity as an agency of the city, you you can do that. But when you designate yourself [0:10:26, 0:10:42]: the yourself meaning the mayor and counsel, you've already taken an oath as a mayor and counsel to carry out those duties. So I don't know that I don't believe that a an additional swearing in is necessary in this circumstance. Um, but as it relates to the powers of the [0:10:42, 0:10:51]: uh the mayor to name the officers, that's straight out of the code. I sent uh via email, I sent that out earlier today uh in response to [0:10:51, 0:10:55]: uh in an email by Councilman Alexander. [0:10:56, 0:10:57]: Thank you. [0:10:58, 0:11:01]: Any other questions? Well thank you very much. Any other questions? [0:11:03, 0:11:04]: Okay, los. [0:11:04, 0:11:05]: I think [0:11:05, 0:11:06]: Go right ahead, please. [0:11:07, 0:11:15]: I'm trying to figure out how to form the question. So this URA board, and this is for Mr. Williams. [0:11:16, 0:11:20]: Considering the fact that all of us as council members are now [0:11:21, 0:11:23]: members of this URA. [0:11:24, 0:11:27]: When items are presented to the council [0:11:27, 0:11:29]: I know that they will be [0:11:29, 0:11:30]: Presented [0:11:31, 0:11:33]: Will there be a distinction? [0:11:35, 0:11:36]: Yeah, yeah. [0:11:37, 0:11:39]: Yes, yes, ma'am. And so the [0:11:39, 0:11:47]: Um and that's why, for instance, why this meeting is distinctly separate from a council meeting. This is a meeting of the URA. [0:11:47, 0:11:54]: And so wh whenever and and quite honestly, I I would hope that there won't be [0:11:54, 0:12:14]: too many more meetings of the URA uh um after this vote I'd like to speak to the the next issue um and but after that you know ideally um the URA is is just there to facilitate the financing of City Hall. Um now there down the road there may be other uh areas [0:12:14, 0:12:34]: That you may want the URA to operate in, but that's not envisioned right now in the near future because you already have a number of projects on the agenda, like the Cultural Arts Facility and then of course the amphitheater. But once those are finished, you may want to use the URA to do other things in [0:12:34, 0:12:39]: in in redeveloping areas of the city, but we're not recommending that at this time. [0:12:39, 0:12:40]: Okay. [0:12:40, 0:12:43]: One one more question. Um so [0:12:44, 0:12:50]: Because the city's previous URA board consisted of non elected officials. [0:12:52, 0:12:53]: What specific codes? [0:12:53, 0:12:55]: States are a [0:12:55, 0:12:58]: And the governing body can be one. [0:12:58, 0:13:00]: And the same members. [0:13:00, 0:13:06]: It it's provided in the in the statute that I sent earlier. I sent an excerpt of it. Um [0:13:06, 0:13:11]: And so I I can resend the entire code but but [0:13:11, 0:13:15]: Basically it it it allows the city council [0:13:16, 0:13:18]: The governing body to designate [0:13:18, 0:13:22]: members to serve as the URA and it does not make a [0:13:22, 0:13:27]: Uh, it doesn't set forth any requirements for what that membership looks like. [0:13:27, 0:13:40]: with the one exception of if you choose to have the downtown development authority carry out those powers, then it has to be those members of the DDA. You have to appoint them in the same way you appoint DDA members. [0:13:41, 0:13:43]: But if you choose any other version [0:13:43, 0:13:49]: like using the mayor and council, for instance, or like using a new set of individuals. [0:13:49, 0:13:53]: You have fairly wide discretion to determine how that that is set up. [0:13:54, 0:14:02]: Okay. And and and a number of other cities. I in fact when I first sent out to the you all in your capacity as mayor and council, I sent out some examples. [0:14:02, 0:14:07]: of other cities that just went ahead and designated the mayor and council as the governing body of the URA. [0:14:08, 0:14:11]: Okay, you sent that statue out today. [0:14:12, 0:14:27]: Yeah, send a an excerpt, but I can send the the whole statute out um for s you all to see the entire uh statute um and specifically the provision that says the mayor and council shall determine the composition and terms of office of the URA. [0:14:28, 0:14:28]: Okay. [0:14:29, 0:14:31]: I just hadn't read those today. Thank you. [0:14:32, 0:14:33]: All right. Any other questions? [0:14:34, 0:14:38]: Okay, the motion's been made, it's been seconded. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:14:40, 0:14:46]: Okay. Aye. Aye. All right. I think that's unanimous in that aspect. Okay. [0:14:47, 0:15:07]: That motion passes. Mr. Williams, what else do we have, sir? So this is more of a you know briefing on the nature of a heads up for down the road. Um what we will need the URA to do. So we're not asking for any action on this tonight, other than perhaps you all making a request that. [0:15:07, 0:15:16]: the city staff to undertake a uh to get an actual boundary survey done and I'll I'll explain that in more detail. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: So the uh [0:15:18, 0:15:24]: Can you all see this map? This is a uh this is from the Henry County Tax Assessors Office. [0:15:25, 0:15:30]: This is the first map that you add up is uh It's the same map. Same map. Oh same map? [0:15:30, 0:15:31]: That's the case name. [0:15:32, 0:15:33]: Okay, hold on, let me [0:15:34, 0:15:40]: Let me make sure I'm getting this right. Uh okay. New share. [0:15:42, 0:15:42]: Yeah. [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: Here we go. Now can you see this? Right. [0:15:48, 0:15:53]: Okay, yes. So of course you all recognize um this is City Hall in the middle. [0:15:54, 0:15:57]: And you know, of course this uh where the fountain property is across the street. [0:15:58, 0:15:59]: So [0:15:59, 0:16:00]: Um what I [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: What you si highlighted. [0:16:03, 0:16:05]: Uh in alternating red and [0:16:05, 0:16:07]: Teal colours. [0:16:07, 0:16:09]: That is [0:16:09, 0:16:11]: What I call the city hall foot. [0:16:11, 0:16:12]: Friend. [0:16:12, 0:16:19]: Um, but it is titled in the name of the URA, and it was that was done as part of the financing for City Hall. [0:16:19, 0:16:22]: So as you know, you are paying annual [0:16:23, 0:16:30]: debt service on City Hall, but it's structured actually as a lease payment that goes through the URA and then the URA pays the bondhold. [0:16:32, 0:16:44]: And so w originally back in two thousand or prior to two thousand five actually, the city um acquired uh this property and and the city also acquired [0:16:44, 0:17:00]: this property here, which is the baseball field behind the church. And of course in more recent years the city has acquired the these three homes on Lee Street, and of course the seven acres back here. [0:17:00, 0:17:02]: Now the three homes on Lee Street. [0:17:02, 0:17:04]: The baseball field. [0:17:04, 0:17:11]: And this large area, the seven acres back here are are all titled in the name of the city of Stockbridge. [0:17:12, 0:17:20]: But this piece as well as this corner piece up here are titled and the name of the urban redevelopment agency. [0:17:20, 0:17:21]: And so [0:17:22, 0:17:28]: Um my recommendation will be that at the appropriate time that the URA [0:17:29, 0:17:29]: They [0:17:30, 0:17:33]: D uh a portion of of this parcel. [0:17:34, 0:17:37]: And it's really the portion wrapping around [0:17:37, 0:17:38]: The the viola. [0:17:40, 0:17:45]: Well, we we we can't convey the city hall piece until the bombs are paid off. [0:17:46, 0:17:54]: Um, but we can convey the pieces that are not necessary for city hall proper. So it'll be an L-shaped. [0:17:55, 0:17:56]: Peace here. [0:17:57, 0:17:59]: Oh, I'm sorry, my [0:18:00, 0:18:08]: So an L-shaped piece here, this piece, this piece, and this corner piece would be conveyed to the city of Stockbridge. [0:18:09, 0:18:11]: Um and the the that [0:18:11, 0:18:14]: And what I'm suggesting is you create a new [0:18:15, 0:18:16]: uh parcel that [0:18:17, 0:18:18]: And if you can follow my cursal [0:18:19, 0:18:21]: cursor. The parcel will follow the footprint. [0:18:21, 0:18:23]: О, амфітеатр. [0:18:24, 0:18:25]: Like this. [0:18:26, 0:18:30]: And you combine that into one parcel titled in the name of the city. [0:18:30, 0:18:40]: Um and the and that would be the amphitheater parcel. And so you'll at the end of the day you'll have two parcels here, one titled in the name of the city, which is the amphitheater. [0:18:40, 0:18:44]: One will continue to be titled in the name of the URA. [0:18:44, 0:18:48]: Um so long as the bonds are outstanding and and the bonds provide for once. [0:18:49, 0:18:49]: Uh the [0:18:50, 0:18:50]: The [0:18:50, 0:18:52]: The debt is paid off. [0:18:52, 0:18:58]: it automatically reverts back to the city. I mean well the mayor were the the chair of the URA at that point. [0:18:58, 0:19:01]: will execute a quick claim deed and and [0:19:01, 0:19:03]: All of it will be titled the name of the city. [0:19:03, 0:19:13]: So I'm gonna be recommending that going forward. We've already had discussions with staff to get a boundary survey specifically as to this piece right here because it it's [0:19:14, 0:19:19]: Um we don't have a separate um legal description for this piece. [0:19:19, 0:19:24]: Um so that's something we can get fairly quickly um and down the road. [0:19:25, 0:19:38]: uh in another couple of months, as soon as we get it back, my recommendations that you reconvene as the URA to authorize the the mayor to execute a quit claim in favor of the city to make that happen. [0:19:39, 0:19:59]: Um in addition to just cleaning up the boundary lines, that will be important um for purposes of financing the amphitheater because um the way that transaction will be structured will be very similar to the way City Hall is structured that uh for the temporary period period in which the [0:19:59, 0:20:06]: the bonds are outstanding for the amphitheater, that will be have to be titled in the name of the public facilities authority. [0:20:06, 0:20:06]: Um [0:20:07, 0:20:17]: un until such time as the bonds are paid off and you will be making an annual lease payment to the the public facilities authority in order to pay debt service on the bonds. So [0:20:18, 0:20:24]: Um I know I've spoken really fast and said a lot, but but I just wanted to give you all an overview of [0:20:24, 0:20:31]: w the property transactions that will be necessary to tee up the financing of the amphitheater. [0:20:32, 0:20:34]: Thank you. Any questions, Mr. Williams? [0:20:36, 0:20:40]: No more questions? Yes, I got questions. I got my hand up, you know. [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: Oh yeah. [0:20:42, 0:20:45]: Yeah, this seems like just you know [0:20:46, 0:21:06]: Moving the marbles around. Tell me, I don't understand what's the advan. I mean, what's the difference between having it under the PFA and then the URA? They're still separate boards, not um entity to the city. So I wanna understand what is the difference of switching it from the URA uh [0:21:06, 0:21:19]: to the PFA. It's still uh there's still separate uh boards that were doing the same thing. Instead of paying the lease payment to the URA, we're paying the lease payment to the PFA. What is the advantages and the disadvantages? [0:21:20, 0:21:40]: So the the the PFA specifically has the authority granted to it by the General Assembly to finance uh recreational facilities like the amphitheater, whereas the URA does not. Um the URA can do city hall and governmental facilities, things of that sort, but the PFA is specifically designed [0:21:40, 0:22:00]: Design to do projects like the Cultural Arts Facility, the Amphitheater, and other park projects that you may want to do down the road, along with governmental facilities. That was one of the reasons why it was created, is to have the specific powers you need to finance. [0:22:00, 0:22:01]: these types of facilities. [0:22:02, 0:22:22]: Okay, so in in other words, what we're doing is that the the PFA has some more uh legal jurisdiction that the URA does not have. So in other words, we still leave City Hall uh with the URA and then finance these new projects uh with the PFA uh with the understanding that [0:22:22, 0:22:36]: that anything going forward other than a specific city building uh would be uh done through the PFA. Is it I guess a possibility we could have uh done this uh the public works facility through the PFA or the URA. [0:22:37, 0:22:43]: Well, so let me let me be more specific about the URA. So the Urban Redevelopment Act. [0:22:43, 0:22:45]: Um but [0:22:45, 0:23:05]: provides that you can exercise these urban redevelopment powers in so called blighted areas, areas that you know have fallen into disrepair and decay and things of that sort. And so in 2005 the the mayor and council at that time made the determination that uh [0:23:05, 0:23:16]: We we they wanted to activate the URA to exercise those powers in this area because at the time it was deemed to be blighted, decayed, etcetera. And so [0:23:17, 0:23:35]: Um, in order to do that somewhere else in the city, you would have to make the same determination and and adopt a redevelopment plan for that area. And so there there's a you know one or two steps you have to do before you you can exercise the powers in whatever new area you create. [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: Um [0:23:36, 0:23:52]: the advantage of the public facilities authority is that you don't have to go through that step. You don't have to make a determination. As long as it's a project that's defined under the powers granted to it under the General Assembly and we ask for them to make it as broad as as possible. [0:23:53, 0:23:57]: Um you can uh you can do that without going through those extra steps. [0:23:58, 0:24:02]: Okay. And do you do you have a map of the URA area? [0:24:03, 0:24:18]: Uh I I should have gotten one. I apologize for that. But the map of the URA is essentially this um area right here, as I recall. Um, but w I will uh we'll search the archives and get that to you. [0:24:19, 0:24:21]: All right, thank you. I'd like to see that. [0:24:21, 0:24:26]: Any other question? Yes, sir. Go right here, please. Uh I have two [0:24:26, 0:24:43]: Two questions for Mr. William. First, um, Mr. William, can you this narrative that you just explained, uh, can you put that in context and send that to uh each of us as it's just information, educational information that we as a body just need to know. Can you do that? [0:24:44, 0:25:04]: Yes, sir. And and in the uh council uh materials that are provided for the council meeting last week, I had maps and and I did do a narrative of this um previously, but I I can recirculate that and expand upon that. Well I guess I guess that was a reference to the question that [0:25:04, 0:25:24]: Mr. Alexander posed as far as the the difference in the uh yeah. My other question is um I I understand that it seems that these properties, the way you just explained it, uh connected to the Citadel Hall, they are pretty much uh contiguous. [0:25:24, 0:25:24]: Yeah. [0:25:24, 0:25:34]: How does the uh cultural art facility and that property, how does that fit into uh the footprint, if if if at all? [0:25:34, 0:25:43]: So um if you look across on on screen, um this piece over here that I've highlighted, and I'll zoom in a little bit. [0:25:43, 0:25:44]: Mm-hmm. [0:25:44, 0:25:47]: This is the the site of the cultural arts facility. [0:25:48, 0:25:48]: Um [0:25:49, 0:25:57]: And uh I won't speak to the other parcels we're hoping to acquire, but uh as it relates to this, um [0:25:58, 0:26:03]: It's already titled in the name of the city of Stockbridge. Assuming you do [0:26:03, 0:26:08]: uh of financing for that piece, then we would utilize the public finance authority. [0:26:08, 0:26:12]: And then enter into a similar arrangement where [0:26:12, 0:26:17]: we would convey it to them and lease it back and the lease payments would be the debt service on the bonds. [0:26:18, 0:26:18]: Thank you. [0:26:19, 0:26:23]: I yield back, Mr. Mayor. No problem. Thank you, sir. Any other questions from Mr. Williams? [0:26:26, 0:26:30]: No other questions. Ms. Williams, anything else uh for our meeting this evening? [0:26:30, 0:26:39]: W that that is all I have. Um and again, it's not that we need a vote, um, but um my recommendation will be [0:26:39, 0:26:47]: that uh you know the URA essentially requests the staff prepare the boundary surveys necessary to effectuate these transactions. [0:26:48, 0:26:55]: Uh we've already had the the conversation with with um with the city manager and and uh Miss Moore, but you know [0:26:55, 0:26:56]: Please do. [0:26:56, 0:27:01]: I mean I would imagine that the the entire council say yes, absolutely. [0:27:02, 0:27:02]: Yes. [0:27:03, 0:27:04]: Absolutely. [0:27:04, 0:27:05]: Yes. [0:27:06, 0:27:07]: Yeah. [0:27:07, 0:27:10]: We'll we'll make it happen. Thank you very much, sir. [0:27:10, 0:27:18]: All right. Well on that note, since the special call meeting, I don't have anything else. That's all we have to do with uh this evening. So uh motion to adjourn the meeting. [0:27:18, 0:27:20]: Solo [0:27:20, 0:27:23]: Okay. Thanks. Alexander is a second. [0:27:24, 0:27:25]: Cosmogent, second. [0:27:26, 0:27:26]: Yes. [0:27:26, 0:27:29]: Okay. Okay. All fair please indicate. [0:27:31, 0:27:35]: Good night folks and be safe. God bless you. Have a good evening.

--- title: July 28 2020 Work Session Meeting date: 2020-07-28 source: 2020-07-28_July_28_2020_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:13]: And um I'd like to call the meeting to order. This is the council work session Tuesday, July 28th. And on that note, um Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, could you please give us the invocation? [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: Uh Mayor Potem Thomas. [0:00:32, 0:00:36]: I I had it on mute. Okay. Go ahead, sir. Appreciate it. Okay. [0:00:36, 0:00:37]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:00:38, 0:00:39]: Let let us pray. [0:00:40, 0:00:41]: Yeah. [0:00:41, 0:00:44]: Oh Heavenly Father, we thank you for [0:00:44, 0:00:45]: The breath of life. [0:00:47, 0:00:50]: And the many blessings you bestow upon. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: Us every day. [0:00:53, 0:00:56]: Father, we seek your wisdom daily. [0:00:57, 0:01:00]: Be with the city of Stockbridge Council and [0:01:00, 0:01:03]: А з вимей тоф десиз. [0:01:03, 0:01:05]: That affect the lives [0:01:06, 0:01:08]: And the future of others. [0:01:10, 0:01:11]: May truth be [0:01:12, 0:01:14]: Бе конестone. [0:01:14, 0:01:18]: Of this council's policy making process. [0:01:19, 0:01:23]: Provide this council with the necessary tools. [0:01:23, 0:01:26]: To carry out the job we were elected to do. [0:01:27, 0:01:31]: Almighty God, we know that everything is in your sovereign control. [0:01:32, 0:01:39]: We ask that you comfort the families who are infected with COVID nineteen facing quarantine. [0:01:41, 0:01:45]: We lift to you our concerns for our children. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: The elderly [0:01:47, 0:01:49]: And people with chronic health conditions. [0:01:50, 0:01:52]: Protect them from harm. [0:01:52, 0:01:54]: And be their comfort. [0:01:54, 0:01:56]: In this time of uncertainty. [0:01:57, 0:02:03]: Take away the fears, the anxiety, and the feelings of isolation. [0:02:04, 0:02:07]: O Heavenly Father, have mercy on this earth. [0:02:08, 0:02:11]: And Father, we thank you for [0:02:11, 0:02:12]: Send in [0:02:13, 0:02:15]: John R. Lewis Awai. [0:02:16, 0:02:17]: In Jesus' name we pray. [0:02:18, 0:02:19]: Amen. [0:02:19, 0:02:19]: Amen. [0:02:20, 0:02:23]: All right, uh could we please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? [0:02:28, 0:02:33]: Pledge to the flag of the United States of America. [0:02:33, 0:02:37]: And to the republic for which it stands. [0:02:37, 0:02:43]: One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:02:45, 0:02:46]: All right. [0:02:46, 0:02:48]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:02:50, 0:02:50]: [175.8, 177.5]: Mayor Ford? Present. [0:02:58, 0:02:59]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:03:00, 0:03:00]: President. [0:03:01, 0:03:02]: Councilman Alexander. [0:03:03, 0:03:03]: Well, [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:03:05, 0:03:06]: I see [0:03:07, 0:03:08]: Councilman Blount. [0:03:09, 0:03:10]: Paso. [0:03:10, 0:03:12]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:03:12, 0:03:13]: Well, I think [0:03:14, 0:03:15]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:03:15, 0:03:17]: Thank you. Appreciate that. Um [0:03:18, 0:03:18]: Pleasant. [0:03:19, 0:03:29]: Uh council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, if you can do this, please. And also in your motion, sir, I've been informed that number uh seven. [0:03:30, 0:03:31]: And number nine. [0:03:31, 0:03:45]: have additional information and that we'll like to take that off the agenda for day for tonight and uh have it on the next agenda at our next meeting uh in a few weeks. It's number seven and number nine. Request that that uh be taken off in your uh motion. [0:03:45, 0:03:47]: Excuse me. [0:03:47, 0:03:53]: Yeah, it needs to be moved. It needs to be removed. Yes, sir. It needs to be removed uh for tonight and it'll come on at our next meeting. [0:03:53, 0:03:54]: Uh in a couple of weeks from now. [0:03:55, 0:03:58]: Okay, uh Mayor and Council, I'd like to motion [0:03:59, 0:04:01]: to um amend the agenda [0:04:02, 0:04:04]: uh to remove well to add [0:04:05, 0:04:06]: Um [0:04:07, 0:04:10]: to item ten, the motion to [0:04:10, 0:04:11]: Reconsider [0:04:12, 0:04:14]: RFP 2020 [0:04:14, 0:04:18]: Dash zero zero zero one six p [0:04:19, 0:04:20]: And to add [0:04:21, 0:04:23]: Uh agenda item eleven. [0:04:23, 0:04:26]: A resolution designating [0:04:26, 0:04:30]: Mayor and Council as the board members of the URA. [0:04:31, 0:04:33]: And to remove agenda items. [0:04:33, 0:04:36]: Seven and nine. [0:04:37, 0:04:42]: There are second. Second. All right. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:04:44, 0:05:04]: All right. Thank you very much. On that note. Review the minutes for the following meetings. June 8th, 2020, that was a council meeting. June 23rd, 2020 would be the work session. And also minutes from the June 29th. [0:05:04, 0:05:05]: Night council. [0:05:06, 0:05:18]: Okay, councill Council meeting looks here as well. Uh what it amounts to though, folks, is that these review those minutes and then uh we'll vote on those minutes at our next meeting to accept them at this time. [0:05:18, 0:05:20]: At that time, excuse me. [0:05:20, 0:05:23]: Uh clerk, are there any public comments at all? [0:05:28, 0:05:48]: There were no public comments. Okay, on that note then uh let's go to the first item. Uh new business council consideration to approve change order number two, WWTP Glenn Addy Pump Station Rehabilitation Project and amount of$283,481.61. [0:05:48, 0:05:56]: funding source wastewater uh fund bad uh balance. Uh Mr. Aaron and uh Brad Holston, please. [0:05:57, 0:06:00]: Mayor Ford, let me see if Mr. Aaron can get connected. [0:06:01, 0:06:01]: Yeah. [0:06:02, 0:06:04]: Mr. Aaron, can you do you have audio? [0:06:09, 0:06:12]: I think Mr. Aaron's audio is attempting to be connected. [0:06:16, 0:06:19]: And for the purposes uh for the council [0:06:20, 0:06:23]: uh in citizens we also have um [0:06:24, 0:06:26]: As staff members on tonight. [0:06:26, 0:06:28]: Uh myself is Randy Knight and the city manager. [0:06:29, 0:06:32]: John Wigan's a treasurer, Camilla Moore, assistant city manager. [0:06:33, 0:06:36]: Vanessa Holiday, City Clerk, Mike Williams, City Attorney. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: Brad Holtzinger. [0:06:38, 0:06:40]: Other superintendent. [0:06:40, 0:06:45]: And we also have um Eugene Plummer with Interdev. [0:06:45, 0:06:48]: And Lindell Miller, procurement manager. [0:06:48, 0:07:01]: We also have with us this evening Carl Trevathan and uh Eric Pitts who work with Kek and Wood um for another item if in fact they have if if in fact the council has any technical questions. [0:07:02, 0:07:04]: on that potential item later. [0:07:04, 0:07:05]: This evening. Mr. Arring. [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: Please unmute yourself. [0:07:12, 0:07:13]: There you go. Outstanding. [0:07:18, 0:07:22]: Mr. Aaron, we w would come to consideration for the change order. [0:07:22, 0:07:24]: Renati pump state. [0:07:26, 0:07:32]: Oh, can you hear me? For some reason the microphone is not working on the computer. We hear you now. [0:07:32, 0:07:33]: Yes. [0:07:33, 0:07:33]: Okay. [0:07:36, 0:07:42]: Uh yes, sir. I'll let Mr. Brad Holzinger, the sewer superintendent, speak to this change order for the Glen Addy. [0:07:42, 0:07:44]: pump station and wastewater plant. [0:07:44, 0:07:45]: Rehabilitation. [0:07:46, 0:07:48]: Mr. this is the valves, correct? [0:07:49, 0:07:50]: Yes, sir, it is. [0:07:50, 0:07:53]: These are uh valves that let sewage [0:07:54, 0:07:58]: and the water treated in and out of the wastewater treatment plant. [0:07:59, 0:08:00]: There are [0:08:00, 0:08:11]: One, two, three, four, five, six valves, I believe. They're all electronic. They operate uh four seven when we're not there. [0:08:12, 0:08:20]: They're thirty years old. We've had issues with'em. And when you have an issue with this when you're not there, sewage can back up. [0:08:21, 0:08:24]: You know, what we all know what happens when sewage backs up. [0:08:25, 0:08:31]: So we would like to consider replace uh the s council to consider replacing these. [0:08:31, 0:08:34]: Uh, so vital part of the treatment process. [0:08:35, 0:08:40]: All right. Any questions for Mr. Brad Holsinger, Council? [0:08:40, 0:08:42]: Well, Mr. Ern, do you need to add anything else into this? [0:08:43, 0:08:44]: No, sir. [0:08:44, 0:08:45]: All right. [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: Questions council? [0:08:48, 0:08:51]: Yes sir. Yes sir. Uh oh, I got some questions. [0:08:52, 0:09:02]: Well the question I want to have is that uh we're going through and we're embarking upon uh several um infrastructure improvements. Talk about how this fits into the long-term plan. [0:09:03, 0:09:05]: And tell me that this is not just a [0:09:05, 0:09:07]: Short term patch or situation. [0:09:07, 0:09:10]: What is the long term plan for? [0:09:10, 0:09:13]: sustainable water system that is operating at a high level. [0:09:16, 0:09:21]: Oh well your current treatment wastewater treatment facility is over thirty years old. [0:09:21, 0:09:28]: And it's coming into the end of life cycle for a lot of the equipment at the wastewater treatment plant. And as part of this upgrade, we replaced [0:09:29, 0:09:34]: pretty much their entire treatment process and this is the final phase of that process. [0:09:34, 0:09:36]: And we don't want to leave. [0:09:36, 0:09:40]: and have everything else done and and renewed and have this old [0:09:40, 0:09:41]: piece of equipment. [0:09:42, 0:09:45]: as part of the treatment process and have an issue with it. [0:09:45, 0:09:48]: So this would get us another thirty plus year. [0:09:49, 0:09:55]: Wastewater is very corrosive, has a low pH in it and it wreaks havoc on the equipment over the years. [0:09:58, 0:09:59]: Okay. [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: Any other questions? [0:10:02, 0:10:10]: I I I don't I'm not sure whether that answered my question or not. In terms of the overall long-term plan. [0:10:11, 0:10:14]: Is this part of the long term plan? Is is this a fix? [0:10:15, 0:10:17]: Yes, so this is part of a long term [0:10:17, 0:10:20]: plan and process that we have in place. [0:10:20, 0:10:25]: we'll start beginning in the collection system. Our goal was to get the wastewater treatment plant [0:10:26, 0:10:32]: updated to current standards because the equipment we have now is outdated. So this is part of the process we started [0:10:32, 0:10:35]: at the treatment process if you look at it like your heart. [0:10:36, 0:10:43]: Now we've made some repairs to the heart. Now we gotta go out into the arteries and valves, which is your collection system and lift stations. [0:10:44, 0:10:46]: And we're making those improvements as well. [0:10:47, 0:11:00]: Okay, in terms of uh this uh the life scale of this uh this is going to uh so this is going to give us uh sustained operations for what how many number of years? [0:11:01, 0:11:08]: Well, the current valves that we're replacing have been in the ground for thirty years. So we're hoping to get another thirty years out of the new one. [0:11:09, 0:11:10]: Okay, thank you. [0:11:12, 0:11:20]: If there's no other questions for Brad or Mr. Aaron, I just need a motion to um accept this uh proposal. [0:11:23, 0:11:24]: Is there a motion? [0:11:26, 0:11:27]: Yeah it [0:11:28, 0:11:33]: Ms. Gantt, uh your hands Miss Gantt, you move me. [0:11:34, 0:11:37]: A second. There we go, Miss Barber. Okay. Any further discussion? [0:11:38, 0:11:40]: And if not all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:11:42, 0:11:44]: Thank you. Okay, fantastic. [0:11:45, 0:11:59]: Uh council consideration to approve task order number 20 with Carter and Sloop, Burke Street Sewer Main Rehabilitation and amount of eighty thousand five hundred eighty dollars. Funding source water and sewer fund balance. Mr. Aaron and Brad, once again, please. [0:12:00, 0:12:08]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. This is part of our upgrade to our collection system. This part of the system dates back to the early sixties. [0:12:08, 0:12:13]: It was top of the art when it was put in, but these manholes are made out of brick. [0:12:13, 0:12:16]: And over the years the hydrogen sulfide from the sewage has [0:12:17, 0:12:22]: started to decay the mortar and the bricks and we're having them fall into the collection system and get [0:12:23, 0:12:29]: caught and trapped in a line so that if we have a backup we'll be unable to clear it because of the obstruction. [0:12:29, 0:12:32]: with the bricks that have fallen into the soil line. [0:12:33, 0:12:33]: Okay. [0:12:34, 0:12:36]: Any questions for Mr. Ern? [0:12:38, 0:12:39]: Anybody questions? [0:12:40, 0:12:42]: If not, I need a motion to accept the proposal. [0:12:43, 0:12:43]: So moved. [0:12:44, 0:12:44]: Is there a second? [0:12:46, 0:12:53]: Yes, Barber, Barber second. Okay. Got your hand there. All right. Further discussion. If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:12:54, 0:12:56]: Fantastic, you know it's all right. [0:12:58, 0:13:07]: Council consideration approved change order number four for the Davis Road Sidewalk Phase One Project, an amount of thirty-one thousand seven hundred twenty-four dollars and ninety-two cents. [0:13:08, 0:13:09]: Funding source grant funding [0:13:10, 0:13:11]: And Mr. Aaron, please. [0:13:12, 0:13:16]: Yes, Mr. Mayor, the city received a transportation enhancement grant in the amount of [0:13:17, 0:13:19]: Six hundred and forty five thousand dollars. [0:13:19, 0:13:24]: This is a change that was recommended by G Dot who provided a grant to the city. [0:13:24, 0:13:32]: This was to make some changes to a retaining wall on Davis Road. So this will finalize the project. We're still on the budget. [0:13:32, 0:13:37]: It will bring the project up to five hundred and fifty thousand nine hundred and fifty three dollars and [0:13:37, 0:13:38]: Sixty seven cents. [0:13:40, 0:13:40]: All right. [0:13:41, 0:13:43]: Thank you. Any questions from Mr. Aaron? [0:13:45, 0:13:47]: Any questions? If not, any motion, council. [0:13:48, 0:13:51]: I do have one question. Okay, go right in, please. [0:13:51, 0:13:57]: Um for Mr. Aaron. Is this to finish off the sidewalks that we began last year? [0:13:59, 0:14:04]: Yes, ma'am, this is phase one of the Davis Road Sidewalk Project and this will complete phase one. [0:14:04, 0:14:06]: Okay. Okay. [0:14:06, 0:14:09]: Any other questions for Mr. Yes ma'am? [0:14:09, 0:14:14]: I just needed Mr. Aaron to repeat the number of the five hundred and ninety nine thousand [0:14:15, 0:14:16]: Number is [0:14:17, 0:14:21]: It's five hundred and fifty thousand nine hundred and fifty three dollars. [0:14:21, 0:14:23]: And sixty seven cents. [0:14:23, 0:14:24]: Okay. [0:14:25, 0:14:25]: Thank you. [0:14:28, 0:14:28]: Okay. [0:14:28, 0:14:46]: Yes, sir, Mr. Ms. Alexander. Yes, sir. I uh in regards Mr. Knighton, this is one of this is one of the projects that's been on the board for a long time. But I'm not sure. Do we ever share this with the community? And what are the plans to share this information on improving connectivity in the city? [0:14:50, 0:14:58]: But I think uh to answer your question, Councilman Alexander, in total, I think when when this phase is completed or this will close out this phase. [0:14:59, 0:15:13]: I think we can uh certainly provide a press release to the city and some additional information with respect to the grant that we received through GDOT uh for the uh project. I think also um related to that and similar to a discussion we had [0:15:14, 0:15:17]: A couple of weeks ago related to some other um [0:15:17, 0:15:30]: opportunities for connectivity via grants that we are receiving and also potentially perhaps through a Peace PLOS, I think we can have further conversations with the community about overall connectivity throughout the city. [0:15:30, 0:15:32]: I think given the um [0:15:32, 0:15:35]: the timing of this and also um [0:15:35, 0:15:37]: Again what we [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: anticipate may be [0:15:39, 0:15:43]: А сам тип о ТІСПЛАС референдум некщір. [0:15:43, 0:15:49]: I think it would be ample time to have conversations uh with members of the community about connectivity overall. [0:15:50, 0:15:51]: We do. [0:15:52, 0:15:53]: Any other questions for Mr. Aaron? [0:15:54, 0:15:57]: If not any motion to accept uh this proposal. [0:15:58, 0:15:59]: Come on, yeah. [0:15:59, 0:16:08]: Okay, so move was uh Barber, that was you. Okay, second. Sorry. Alexander, okay. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:16:09, 0:16:12]: Okay. Fantastic. Yeah. Mr. Alexander, I'm the second. [0:16:13, 0:16:15]: Yes, Ms. Alzheimer's on a second. Thank you. [0:16:17, 0:16:24]: Council consideration to approve the purchase of a calibr a calipillar model three sixty hydraulic excavator under state contract. [0:16:25, 0:16:37]: Nine nine nine nine nine dash zero zero one dash spd dash zero zero zero zero zero one zero two from Yancy Brothers Incorporation amount of seventy eight thousand six hundred fifty three dollars. [0:16:37, 0:16:43]: Uh funding source water department budget, 50,326 and sewer department fund balance. [0:16:44, 0:16:47]: Twenty eight thousand three hundred twenty thousand eighty four cents. [0:16:47, 0:16:49]: Uh Miss Miller and Mr Aaron, please. [0:16:50, 0:16:58]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. The procurement division is requesting council approval to piggyback and award a contract to Yancy Brothers Company. [0:16:58, 0:17:09]: Uh it's the state of Georgia uh contract, our procurement number will be 2020025 for the amount of$78,652. [0:17:11, 0:17:14]: Any questions for Ms. Miller Council? Ms. Alzheimer's go ahead. [0:17:15, 0:17:17]: I would like for the public works director to speak. [0:17:18, 0:17:27]: We're spending this m money, what is the benefit to the community so everybody understands what the truck what's the what's the truck going to do and what service is it going to perform? [0:17:28, 0:17:34]: Well the benefit is currently the city has have some water and sewer mains that our current equipment cannot [0:17:35, 0:17:39]: reach those level if we had an emergency water main break or sewer [0:17:39, 0:17:42]: lime braid, we would have to go out and rent that equipment. [0:17:43, 0:17:44]: And m as most of us know [0:17:45, 0:17:46]: water and sewer. [0:17:46, 0:17:55]: incidents don't occur during a normal working hour. So if we had an incident, we didn't have the equipment excavated, we'll be in a a dire situation. [0:17:55, 0:17:59]: So this will allow us to dig down the water mains that are eighteen to twenty feet deep. [0:18:01, 0:18:05]: Okay. Thank you. Any further questions for Mr. Aaron or Ms. Miller? [0:18:06, 0:18:10]: If not council, I need a motion to accept this proposal. [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: Some move. [0:18:11, 0:18:13]: Ms. Alexander, second. [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: I think Must Mar second that. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: All right, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:18:19, 0:18:20]: Right, fantastic. [0:18:20, 0:18:21]: Okay. [0:18:22, 0:18:24]: On that note, um next is uh actually Mayor Pro Ten. [0:18:25, 0:18:26]: You added this to agenda. [0:18:26, 0:18:28]: Sir, so I need go right ahead. [0:18:28, 0:18:30]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um [0:18:31, 0:18:34]: I am coming forward with a motion to [0:18:34, 0:18:38]: Uh reconsider an item [0:18:38, 0:18:41]: Uh that was approved at our last meeting. [0:18:41, 0:18:43]: Uh which is um [0:18:45, 0:18:47]: R F P twenty twenty. [0:18:47, 0:18:50]: Uh dash zero zero one six. [0:18:51, 0:18:51]: Yeah. [0:18:52, 0:18:54]: That deals with the uh office. [0:18:55, 0:18:57]: uh construction configurement [0:18:58, 0:18:58]: And [0:18:59, 0:19:01]: My concern here is [0:19:01, 0:19:03]: As a consideration of [0:19:05, 0:19:10]: You know, all of the financial obligations that we have talked about, capital projects. [0:19:11, 0:19:14]: Uh and many other things, and I know um [0:19:14, 0:19:18]: Um had been asked to meet to [0:19:18, 0:19:23]: uh discuss and review some of the uh budget items which it has not happened. [0:19:23, 0:19:27]: Um and I I just think that we need to [0:19:27, 0:19:31]: Uh because of COVID number one, I think we need to come back and look at [0:19:32, 0:19:36]: uh revenue for the first quarter of twenty twenty one. [0:19:36, 0:19:39]: Uh we have not discussed bonding in a while. [0:19:40, 0:19:43]: So it's just a lot of things that are not clear. [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: As to how we would go forward uh financial [0:19:48, 0:19:49]: Also um [0:19:50, 0:19:54]: And looking at especially county and seeing how the county [0:19:55, 0:19:58]: has uh refitted that change needed. [0:19:58, 0:20:02]: And I don't know Mr. Nine, I don't know when we're going to do face to face. [0:20:02, 0:20:06]: Um, I don't know if we're going to have Zoom meetings for the rest of the year. [0:20:07, 0:20:09]: Uh but I know for me even in uh [0:20:09, 0:20:10]: What are you? [0:20:10, 0:20:12]: А тек ви хав тобі проактиві. [0:20:13, 0:20:14]: And um and news. [0:20:15, 0:20:17]: Mm flexiclass or something. [0:20:17, 0:20:19]: And uh we have not had any of those discussions. [0:20:20, 0:20:23]: And so I I just think it's a little premature to [0:20:23, 0:20:27]: uh get into this experience without having a clear coming forward. [0:20:27, 0:20:29]: uh how we can finance [0:20:29, 0:20:31]: Not only this project. [0:20:31, 0:20:34]: As is other projects as well. [0:20:34, 0:20:36]: And I just think we need to um [0:20:36, 0:20:39]: Uh what's the schedule and I and I guess [0:20:39, 0:20:42]: Uh sometime doing the budget retreat. [0:20:42, 0:20:49]: that we may can uh revisit this and and move forward. But this is my reason for my reconsideration. So [0:20:49, 0:20:51]: Uh I moved to um [0:20:52, 0:20:56]: reconsider this and I don't know Mr. Mayor if you would put this to a vote, how you would do that, but [0:20:57, 0:21:10]: Um that that is my motion uh to reconsider. Well, actually uh I'd like for Mr. Nighton to further explain the reason why this is happening to give more maybe more clarity to say if that's all right, Mr. Nighting, please address that please. [0:21:12, 0:21:20]: Well, Mayor, I don't know if I can address it um specifically. Um obviously this was item that was approved at the previous meeting. [0:21:20, 0:21:25]: And uh obviously Mayor Pro Tem Thomas has raised some concerns about funding overall. [0:21:25, 0:21:31]: Um and so um obviously if the council wants us to have those discussions [0:21:31, 0:21:35]: in terms of funding overall and or retrofitting of buildings and so forth. [0:21:36, 0:21:39]: Um ideally those things would happen uh or we [0:21:39, 0:21:43]: generally have happened at budget retreats where we've had a comprehensive [0:21:43, 0:21:51]: uh discussion about funding overall. Obviously in this particular case, we could have a separate conversation about this specifically. [0:21:51, 0:21:58]: Um but um that uh probably is all I can add at the moment with respect to that item. Of course this item [0:21:58, 0:22:17]: was the one that would have uh created, I believe it was uh five or six office spaces down in the finance area. And that was uh the intent behind that was to create some additional office spaces um uh in City Hall for a couple of positions and also for uh some future growth as well. [0:22:17, 0:22:21]: When was that scheduled to start originally, the reconstruction of that? [0:22:21, 0:22:22]: Right. [0:22:23, 0:22:26]: Uh we were gonna move on it pretty quickly. [0:22:26, 0:22:29]: Um like within the next uh perhaps. [0:22:29, 0:22:33]: The next week to two weeks. Uh Dash just may be able to speak more to that, but [0:22:34, 0:22:36]: Oh okay, Miss Aaron, can you answer? [0:22:37, 0:22:43]: Yes, uh I spoke with Gary Smith, facility supervisor this afternoon. They're scheduled to start on Thursday. [0:22:43, 0:22:44]: Okay. Wow. [0:22:45, 0:22:51]: All right. And then our course our budget retreat wasn't set for until sometime in September or August here. When we were gonna do that. [0:22:52, 0:23:00]: Right. It would be or early to mid September. I'm looking at uh specific dates, given obviously the current situation we're in with the COVID nineteen, it [0:23:01, 0:23:11]: We're trying to determine how that would take place in terms of perhaps virtual meetings over the course of a couple of days, since uh we likely would not be able to meet in person. [0:23:12, 0:23:22]: All right. Well council obviously Mayor Potem has a concern, but we've already passed this, it's gonna move forward as you heard, unless there's some inkling that uh we should shortstop this and have further discussion. [0:23:22, 0:23:27]: So uh Mr. Alzheimer, go ahead please. Uh yes, uh I wanna ask um [0:23:29, 0:23:37]: My my whole issue with this situation is is that is this part of the long-term plan, just like I asked about. [0:23:37, 0:23:42]: uh what the situation was with the water treatment plan or is it a stop gap? [0:23:43, 0:23:48]: So I haven't heard anything about office space for the economic development director. [0:23:49, 0:23:50]: That is what that [0:23:51, 0:24:03]: So in terms of that person and then having some future growth in that department and other areas in the city,'cause to me, if you're gonna do five offices, the city hall was built [0:24:04, 0:24:05]: to a certain capacity. [0:24:05, 0:24:09]: Uh, a as the city plans on growing, there will need to be [0:24:09, 0:24:11]: Yeah, this this council has often talked about [0:24:12, 0:24:14]: uh expanding uh and uh [0:24:15, 0:24:16]: Having um [0:24:17, 0:24:19]: annex or what have you to be able to [0:24:20, 0:24:22]: uh accommodate the growth for the staff. [0:24:22, 0:24:37]: There's is this anticipating growth or is it just anticipating just shuffling people around to uh what we have now?'Cause I don't think uh you know, I think what really happened was uh in terms of the city council, our office is what [0:24:37, 0:24:41]: shuffled around and given to someone else. So um [0:24:42, 0:24:46]: Is it just kind of shuffling things around and what is the long term plan? [0:24:46, 0:24:49]: The growth. This is my concern'cause it seems like [0:24:49, 0:24:52]: This was never really discussed with the city council. [0:24:52, 0:24:56]: It was brought upon us. We test the staff with doing numerous. [0:24:57, 0:25:01]: uh other projects. This project was not on the list, but it emerged. [0:25:01, 0:25:02]: From out of nowhere. [0:25:03, 0:25:08]: in which I had never heard anything about it. So yes, I do share some of those concerns. [0:25:09, 0:25:10]: Mr. Mayor. [0:25:10, 0:25:12]: Yes, sir. Uh go ahead, Map Protein. [0:25:13, 0:25:13]: Uh [0:25:13, 0:25:15]: The fact that I have [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: made this motion to reconsider [0:25:19, 0:25:24]: Um it is upon you to put this out for uh vote. [0:25:24, 0:25:26]: That's what reconsideration means. [0:25:27, 0:25:34]: Yeah, well I understand I I didn't ask for a second. It hadn't been seconded as we were discussing it. So I'll tell you what, uh is there a second to that particular motion? [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: Second. [0:25:35, 0:25:38]: All right, uh Mr. Alexander, second that motion. [0:25:38, 0:25:40]: Uh Councilman Blount, go ahead, sir. [0:25:41, 0:25:42]: Yeah, can you hear me? [0:25:42, 0:25:44]: Yeah, go go ahead. I got you. [0:25:45, 0:25:49]: Yeah, I you know, I agree with Councilman Alexander, we have tasked uh staff of [0:25:50, 0:25:52]: to do uh quite a few um [0:25:53, 0:25:56]: you know, for on a quite a few items and we have talked about [0:25:56, 0:26:01]: having an annex, but I I do realize myself because I questioned [0:26:01, 0:26:07]: this very item and one of the things that we have to realize is City Hall when it was created and built [0:26:07, 0:26:12]: that the square footage per areas that it has, it has a lot of areas that [0:26:12, 0:26:14]: are not being utilized. [0:26:14, 0:26:20]: Uh, it's too much walkable area in so many but that could be off the space and so I think that [0:26:20, 0:26:21]: When we look at uh [0:26:22, 0:26:31]: what we're trying to bring on. I think that these offices within city hall in those areas that are s square footage that are not being used. I mean, we got [0:26:31, 0:26:47]: We got whole storage spaces sitting next to windows with nothing but walkable walkable areas. And so it's so much walkable area around City Hall that I think it's I think it's uh good to staff the to to recognize this and and and to bring those into making offices. [0:26:47, 0:26:49]: uh to to uh [0:26:49, 0:26:53]: for for whatever staff we're getting to bring on. We got a lot going on with the city and so [0:26:53, 0:26:57]: to utilize the city hall area to his max and then we talked about [0:26:58, 0:27:03]: We did talk about uh having an an uh an annex for the city and so when the uses of that [0:27:03, 0:27:08]: uh but the need and the use for that to to arise come up, I'm I'm all for it one percent. [0:27:08, 0:27:12]: But I think that we should maximize City Hall with the uh [0:27:12, 0:27:17]: uh with the space there's so much walkability around city hall that's not being used. [0:27:19, 0:27:19]: Okay. [0:27:20, 0:27:21]: Miss Aaron, you uh [0:27:21, 0:27:25]: Okay, I'll back up. Hold on one second please. Councilman Mormon Barber, go ahead, please. [0:27:26, 0:27:31]: Yes, thank you, Mayor. Um when this item came up at the last city council meeting. [0:27:32, 0:27:34]: I was the only one to oppose it. [0:27:34, 0:27:38]: I opposed it because the way it was presented was [0:27:38, 0:27:39]: These off spaces. [0:27:40, 0:27:44]: One was needed for a paternity assistant. [0:27:44, 0:27:48]: Another one was needed for a big organ for pyramids. [0:27:49, 0:27:51]: Another one was needed for you. [0:27:51, 0:27:54]: New economic development director. [0:27:54, 0:27:57]: And a couple other extra offices. [0:27:58, 0:27:59]: The way it was presented [0:27:59, 0:28:01]: Was it that? [0:28:01, 0:28:06]: Staff were working close together and they were sharing spaces. [0:28:06, 0:28:10]: So they wanted to build or construct new offices. [0:28:10, 0:28:12]: To separate them. [0:28:12, 0:28:14]: I opposed it for that reason. [0:28:15, 0:28:17]: posed it because I'm not there. [0:28:17, 0:28:20]: is not working in the office. [0:28:21, 0:28:22]: Yeah, working from home. [0:28:22, 0:28:24]: We don't need these right now. [0:28:24, 0:28:25]: We don't. [0:28:25, 0:28:31]: In the future we we can revisit them. So I do agree with Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:28:32, 0:28:36]: Let's discuss them again um during our fall retreat. [0:28:36, 0:28:40]: But I like to second the motion to reconsider this. [0:28:40, 0:28:42]: So that this doesn't move forward. [0:28:44, 0:28:48]: All right, uh Mr. Aaron, you're lit up. [0:28:50, 0:28:56]: No? You talking to me, Mayor? Uh no, I was talking to Mr. Aaron because I saw his his light lit up. I didn't know if he needed something to add in or not. [0:28:57, 0:29:01]: No, sir. Okay, all right. Uh Councilman Blunge, you have something additional, sir? Go ahead. [0:29:02, 0:29:03]: Yeah, you know [0:29:03, 0:29:05]: And I take everybody [0:29:05, 0:29:08]: you know, suggestions and everything, consideration. But when it comes to [0:29:09, 0:29:13]: documents when it comes to things in these different departments, I pr I would prefer to see [0:29:13, 0:29:16]: uh offices instead of uh uh partitions. [0:29:17, 0:29:21]: Uh anytime and if we're able to make those provisions to make actual offices that we have [0:29:22, 0:29:24]: documents or whatever needs to be in those offices versus [0:29:25, 0:29:27]: uh anybody coming through and and and [0:29:27, 0:29:33]: see in a file cabinet and a partition, uh, I think that we should move forward with getting offices. That's just me. [0:29:34, 0:29:42]: All right. Uh Mr. Aaron or Mr. Aaron, let me ask you this. If by chance the council wants to reconsider us tonight and we put and we push this back [0:29:42, 0:29:52]: to a later time frame to discuss it. How is that going to affect the timeline uh in reference to you said it's supposed to start on Thursday. You got contractors already laid out. I mean, how's how does that affect that? [0:29:54, 0:29:58]: I think Miss Miller probably could speak to that in that it was a state contractor. [0:29:59, 0:29:59]: Okay. [0:30:00, 0:30:02]: And I don't know how that'll affect the procurement part of it. [0:30:03, 0:30:16]: Ms. Miller, can you explain that please? Yes, we would um need the city attorney to um probably give us a legal opinion because we've issued a uh a purchase order, which is a legal contractual um agreement. [0:30:17, 0:30:19]: They have already um [0:30:20, 0:30:33]: mobilized. Um so I will refer it over to the city attorney and he can um look over the documents and have to um speak with the contractors. I don't know what type of cost they've already um [0:30:34, 0:30:35]: Expensed. [0:30:35, 0:30:37]: Um, but I do know a purchase order was already issued. [0:30:38, 0:30:41]: So um whatever legal um decides is is okay with me. [0:30:42, 0:30:43]: It's amazing. [0:30:43, 0:30:44]: Mr Mr. Williams. [0:30:45, 0:30:53]: Yeah, we're gonna just have to review it because, you know, the the contract, you know, the staff went to work fairly quickly after it was approved. [0:30:54, 0:30:55]: Um and so [0:30:56, 0:31:01]: uh to the extent that we're already obligated to pull back we may and from some [0:31:02, 0:31:07]: um costs uh associated with that. I just can't speak to how much that might be at this point. [0:31:08, 0:31:09]: So right. [0:31:09, 0:31:11]: Uh okay, you Mr. Alexander. [0:31:11, 0:31:13]: Uh it's amazing, isn't it? [0:31:14, 0:31:18]: I've never seen the staff move this fast on anything. Nothing. [0:31:19, 0:31:24]: See, we have other projects that have been out there that we task the staff with completing. [0:31:25, 0:31:27]: They haven't moved anywhere. [0:31:27, 0:31:41]: Yeah, this staff initiated project has already made it through the process. A purchase order has been delivered and we just voted on it. Man, how about that? Wow. I wish everything could move that fast. [0:31:42, 0:31:49]: All right. Any other comments on that at all? Ms. Knight, go ahead. Mr. Mayor. At the expense of um [0:31:50, 0:31:51]: Comment made to staff. [0:31:53, 0:31:56]: Um this staff works very hard to [0:31:56, 0:31:59]: Do our best to serve the citizens of the city of Stockbridge. [0:32:00, 0:32:00]: Yeah. [0:32:01, 0:32:06]: And this staff has moved things forward in the city of Stockbridge that have never been done. [0:32:06, 0:32:07]: Four. [0:32:08, 0:32:09]: Never. [0:32:10, 0:32:11]: And uh [0:32:12, 0:32:14]: In an effort to support the staff. [0:32:15, 0:32:17]: I'm simply saying that [0:32:18, 0:32:22]: This staff has done a great job in many areas of moving this city forward. [0:32:23, 0:32:24]: And I appreciate [0:32:25, 0:32:27]: The good men and women in the city of Stockbridge that I work with. [0:32:28, 0:32:31]: You try to take this stab or take this city to a higher level. [0:32:31, 0:32:34]: and try to accomplish things that we've never accomplished before. [0:32:35, 0:32:37]: And so with that I don't have any further comments. [0:32:37, 0:32:38]: All right. [0:32:38, 0:32:56]: And the motion has been made, it's been a second to reconsider uh this particular uh objective or this thing the about the f uh redesigning of the office space in the in the first floor, the basement floor. If there are no further comments, well I asked for a vote. So all in favor of reconsidering, please indicate. [0:32:57, 0:33:00]: One, two, three, all posed. [0:33:01, 0:33:05]: One. Uh Miss Ken, I don't see you. [0:33:07, 0:33:23]: Okay. I don't know. I call Okay, so it's it passes three to two. Um and so I guess on that note, Mr. Williams, you'll have to check in and as to see what kind of obligation, financial obligation we still have to pay or whatever the case may be, I suppose. [0:33:23, 0:33:33]: Well, Mr. Mayor, procedurally now the a uh motion to essentially table that item would be in order since the reconsideration just brings it back to you all to make a decision. [0:33:34, 0:33:40]: Okay. Oh based on what I think I heard from the council members a motion to cable that item [0:33:40, 0:33:43]: uh or rejected if if that's what they want to do. [0:33:43, 0:33:44]: Is in order. [0:33:45, 0:33:46]: All right. [0:33:46, 0:33:52]: All right, council you heard the attorney. So what kind of motion do we have on that? Re we've already reconsidered, so we're gonna table this till further notice. [0:33:52, 0:33:53]: Is there a motion, please? [0:33:54, 0:34:07]: Mr. Mayor. Uh is is it possible for me to ask the the city manager a follow up question? Yeah, sure, absolutely. Go ahead. Uh m Mr. Nine, could you speak a little bit more about the retreat? Um [0:34:08, 0:34:08]: How [0:34:09, 0:34:15]: How well in stone uh is this plan? I mean, uh are we ready? [0:34:15, 0:34:18]: uh or that day going to shift a little further out. [0:34:20, 0:34:24]: No, um the plan has always been for early to mid September. [0:34:24, 0:34:29]: To have the retreat. The uh department heads have been tasked with providing [0:34:29, 0:34:32]: their budget reports back to uh the treasurer. [0:34:32, 0:34:34]: Um at the end of this week. [0:34:35, 0:34:45]: Uh and once that is done, then I will review all of those, but it's always been uh consideration for uh early to mid-September. Obviously with the COVID situation that we've had. [0:34:46, 0:34:52]: Um we would have normally have secured a site in in in hotel and so forth, a retreat location. [0:34:52, 0:34:56]: Uh, given this circumstance, as we wanted to see how things evolve. [0:34:56, 0:35:03]: over time of whether or not it would be feasible to even have an in person retreat. And right now it doesn't appear [0:35:03, 0:35:06]: that would be the the most prudent thing to do. [0:35:06, 0:35:10]: The virtual retreat would probably be the likelihood. [0:35:11, 0:35:13]: Hey, Miss Kant, go ahead, please. [0:35:13, 0:35:16]: Thank you, Mayor. Um just a quick question. [0:35:16, 0:35:21]: When we fur when they first started talking about the motion, I was a little confused at what actually [0:35:21, 0:35:23]: was going on. Um [0:35:24, 0:35:35]: I heard office but I wasn't really quite sure what we had voted on and what was said. Um I know Councilman Woman Barber stated the reason why she opposed um the first time. [0:35:36, 0:35:41]: And I'm not someone has to recollect my memory on one. [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: Who actually present it? [0:35:44, 0:35:50]: the um the office space down downstairs. I remember us talking about this last year. [0:35:51, 0:35:53]: Two, was it budgeted for? [0:35:53, 0:35:54]: Mm. [0:35:55, 0:36:04]: In the past, I remember us discussing uh and I would love for us to have our office back. I agree with Councilman Alexander in regards to some of the issues with that. [0:36:04, 0:36:06]: Um there are issues. [0:36:07, 0:36:14]: Um in regards I rem I do recall seeing IT and other people downstairs um just kinda in the [0:36:15, 0:36:16]: Wi without an office. [0:36:17, 0:36:17]: Area. [0:36:18, 0:36:19]: Um [0:36:19, 0:36:20]: And [0:36:21, 0:36:22]: I'm uncertain. [0:36:23, 0:36:28]: Ведена інівон о стафвод аклі. [0:36:29, 0:36:29]: Um [0:36:30, 0:36:38]: present to us that people were stacked and carrying off the space. And if that's the case, I need to know who said that. [0:36:39, 0:36:40]: Um and in general [0:36:41, 0:36:44]: Uh uh because I I know for a fact that's not true. [0:36:44, 0:36:45]: Um [0:36:45, 0:36:48]: My my only concern is [0:36:48, 0:36:52]: We want certain things done, and I I'm okay with tabling. [0:36:53, 0:36:57]: And and letting our attorney look at where it is. It was supposed to start on Thursday. [0:36:57, 0:37:03]: Um, September's right around the corner, so it won't it won't hurt us to just delay it. [0:37:03, 0:37:04]: If that's the case. [0:37:04, 0:37:10]: But we're also talking about growing our staff if need be. We're a growing community, a growing city. [0:37:10, 0:37:13]: Um so I think we should take all of that into consideration. [0:37:14, 0:37:14]: Um [0:37:16, 0:37:17]: And someone I [0:37:18, 0:37:22]: Maybe you guys can correl recolate my memory, Mr. Knighton. Why [0:37:22, 0:37:37]: Is it that it was brought up last meeting in the first place to go ahead and do? What what are the things that you see? This issue was brought up several months ago. In fact, I sent an email to the council and I can't remember is it March or April. I'd had to go back and look. [0:37:37, 0:37:40]: I sent an email to the council signaling [0:37:40, 0:37:44]: That we were going to go ahead and look at creating office space. [0:37:44, 0:37:46]: Downstairs in the finance area. [0:37:47, 0:37:57]: Primarily because one, the IT department had outgrown that space. They were in a cubicle and they had certain items that were out and exposed that really needed to be in a secure location. [0:37:57, 0:38:03]: So they moved down to the the office down the hallway, which was formerly used by the previous economic development. [0:38:04, 0:38:07]: director. We also had uh two new positions. [0:38:08, 0:38:11]: Yeah, or I'm sorry, another position that was approved. [0:38:11, 0:38:12]: Uh in the budget. [0:38:13, 0:38:21]: Um with respect to um staff, actually typically two new positions actually that were approved in the budget uh for the staff. [0:38:21, 0:38:32]: Therefore, in order to create some additional office space within City Hall, we thought this would be a best option. It's only about, I think it was about$80,000 as a total for this option. [0:38:33, 0:38:35]: Versus even looking at something like an annex. [0:38:36, 0:38:41]: build an annex building that's gonna be several hundred thousand dollars, if not into millions of dollars. [0:38:41, 0:38:50]: because you would have to obviously create a totally new space, brick and mortar space, air conditioning, electric, everything, plumbing, everything that goes along with it. [0:38:51, 0:38:56]: This was seen to be a more economical option for creating office space in City Hall. [0:38:57, 0:39:00]: Okay, thank you. And do you know or estimate [0:39:01, 0:39:11]: at what time um we estimate that the employees would be back and and will be up running. I know right now we're working on pretty good projects about we we had [0:39:12, 0:39:17]: Yes. Uh because of COVID nineteen, of course, we were fully teleworking for a long period of time. [0:39:17, 0:39:28]: And then gradually we moved back into a rotational basis. And then uh we moved back to uh everyone was back in the office, uh essentially everyone was back for the previous. [0:39:28, 0:39:30]: previous two weeks or so. [0:39:31, 0:39:38]: Uh and um in the last two weeks we have been out. All of this, as I have said from the very beginning, since we've been dealing with this pandemic. [0:39:39, 0:39:42]: I want to do what I think is right and fair. [0:39:42, 0:39:46]: for staff members to make sure that we're in a safe and healthy environment. [0:39:46, 0:39:48]: And I said from the very beginning. [0:39:48, 0:40:08]: If the data and information comes to us and it's not the numbers are not looking good in terms of COVID exposures in Henry County, the state, and so forth, we would make adjustments. We would adjust. We would change our schedules in order to keep the staff in a position to be healthy. And that's what I've done, and I will continue to do as city manager. [0:40:08, 0:40:08]: Yeah. [0:40:09, 0:40:26]: Because as we've seen, these numbers have started to escalate. And we thought that perhaps we may have had a staff exposure about two weeks ago, which is why I went ahead and shut everything down and we obtained additional information to make sure that we were in a good, safe and healthy place. [0:40:26, 0:40:33]: Um my intention was, based on information, is to probably go back to a rotational basis starting next week. But again [0:40:33, 0:40:34]: I will continue to say. [0:40:35, 0:40:40]: Uh my charge and my responsibility is to try to keep the staff in a safe and healthy position. [0:40:40, 0:40:43]: Yet the numbers and the data and the science says [0:40:43, 0:40:49]: that uh the COVID uh cases are increasing and exposures are increasing, then we would need to pull back. [0:40:50, 0:40:57]: Um but uh right now, um, you know, we'll continue to op operate hopefully on a rotational basis starting next week. [0:40:57, 0:41:00]: But again, as we have seen with this pandemic. [0:41:00, 0:41:02]: Things have changed and things can be fluid. [0:41:04, 0:41:11]: Thank you. I have uh w one last question. Um did you ask for consensus when you discussed and sent an email to Mirror Council? [0:41:12, 0:41:26]: Or was it just something we discussed? You didn't hear any negative feedback on or or proceeding with that. Right. I I don't recall specifically. I'll go back and look at the email. I don't think I heard anything back from that as I recall. I'd have to go back and be sure, but I don't think I heard anything back. [0:41:26, 0:41:33]: related to uh something that should be pulled back or anything. And that's why I went ahead and moved forward with this option. [0:41:33, 0:41:36]: All right. Thank you. No further questions for me. [0:41:36, 0:41:38]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:41:38, 0:41:47]: Thank you. And I do remember that you said several months ago, but we weren't dealing with COVID then. [0:41:47, 0:41:50]: So the last city council meeting [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: When this item was presented. [0:41:52, 0:41:55]: It was presented as though it was high priority. [0:41:56, 0:41:58]: Ти протек імпої. [0:41:58, 0:42:02]: I knew then that employees were not working at City Hall. [0:42:03, 0:42:04]: Every day. [0:42:04, 0:42:07]: I knew then that they were still rotating. [0:42:07, 0:42:09]: This should not be priority. [0:42:11, 0:42:12]: We can wait. [0:42:12, 0:42:14]: On these offices. [0:42:14, 0:42:15]: So [0:42:16, 0:42:22]: I'd like to see us as or task staff now with contacting the state or the contractor. [0:42:23, 0:42:28]: To cancel that PO as soon as possible. We don't want to move forward with that. [0:42:28, 0:42:29]: Right now. [0:42:29, 0:42:34]: Staff won't return to office for another couple of months, so I predict. [0:42:35, 0:42:39]: Um we know that these COVID cases are still increasing. [0:42:40, 0:42:51]: So I encourage Mr. Knighton if he would, please consider allowing staff to continue working from home as long as possible. [0:42:51, 0:42:51]: No. [0:42:52, 0:42:53]: That's just my my opinion. [0:42:54, 0:42:55]: Councilwoman Gantt please. [0:42:56, 0:43:00]: Last comment, I don't understand what the reason of the delay would be. [0:43:00, 0:43:05]: Um we've received notice about this. We've talked about this several times in the past. [0:43:05, 0:43:11]: Um there's been discussions on needing extra space. I would love for the council to have their office back as well. [0:43:12, 0:43:12]: I [0:43:13, 0:43:19]: We can't in one term want us to speed up and then then they then the staff is proactive in getting something done. [0:43:19, 0:43:22]: Um for eighty thousand dollars. [0:43:22, 0:43:36]: Um, which is a you know, if they're putting cubicles in or whatever the case may be, which is a minimum cost compared to some of the other projects, and then they go ahead and be proactive and do it. And we say, Well, everybody's sitting at home. [0:43:36, 0:43:39]: What happens when everybody's safe to go back to work? [0:43:39, 0:43:45]: And they're still back in there and they're out in the common area or wherever they have to go to work. [0:43:45, 0:43:52]: Our city attorney works up in one of the conference rooms or move around because someone might need the conference room space. [0:43:52, 0:44:12]: We don't have the adequate rooms for our staff. It's a known fact. I might come in and want to use a conference room and he may be in there working or has and have to rotate to somewhere else. Um there may be a meeting from a board member of a committee. Why would we wait until we get back and then the people are there and we [0:44:12, 0:44:14]: We don't have everything set up. [0:44:14, 0:44:25]: Um, it's kind of like something I said about the county or or the cities or anything else. We're in covert right now. Why would we not fix those potholes when there's not as much traffic on the road? [0:44:26, 0:44:31]: I mean, uh if we're gonna be proactive, we can't be hypocritical at the time point that we're gonna be proactive. [0:44:32, 0:44:34]: So I think that that is a problem. [0:44:35, 0:44:38]: Um, and I think that we need to consider that. [0:44:38, 0:44:41]: Specifically because it had already been laid out. [0:44:43, 0:44:51]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Yes, I want to ask uh Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Um his I think his initial inclination was to cancel it. [0:44:51, 0:44:56]: So I wanna understand, is that the motion that he wanna do? The city attorney suggests [0:44:57, 0:44:57]: Um [0:44:58, 0:44:59]: Tabling it. [0:44:59, 0:45:00]: But [0:45:00, 0:45:02]: Might it be best to to cancel it? [0:45:03, 0:45:04]: Is that what his intention is? [0:45:05, 0:45:09]: Well m my my intent and I I do understand the [0:45:10, 0:45:16]: the method of reconsideration, as I stated earlier, once I began to [0:45:16, 0:45:17]: Look at [0:45:17, 0:45:20]: Everything that we needed to do. [0:45:20, 0:45:30]: And and it's not clear, even though, you know, we say eighty thousand like it's you know, like it's nothing, but I'm sort of just dealing with principles right now. [0:45:30, 0:45:33]: Um in in trying to go forward now. [0:45:34, 0:45:37]: Table versus council altogether [0:45:38, 0:45:39]: Ам окей. [0:45:40, 0:45:50]: I think for me right now is to revisit this at the retreat. I'm definitely not in favor of going forward right now, on Thursday. [0:45:51, 0:45:52]: Um [0:45:52, 0:45:54]: You know, September. [0:45:54, 0:45:59]: You know, we just have to see where we are. Uh now just for me. [0:45:59, 0:46:10]: This is just for me. Uh I plan to be in COVID-19 mode for the rest of the year and maybe even for the first quarter quarter of 2021. So um [0:46:10, 0:46:17]: I won't be coming into City Hall per se. I hadn't been in in City Hall since that time, but [0:46:17, 0:46:18]: Um [0:46:18, 0:46:31]: It's gonna be hard for any of us to come back in the city hall, especially the the the council in the chamber, uh, without some kind of refitting. And I can understand the safety of of all staff as well. [0:46:32, 0:46:39]: Um, so it's just one of those decisions we have to make. And I would just rather caution on the side of delay. [0:46:40, 0:46:44]: rather than to uh than to rush into it. Um so [0:46:44, 0:46:59]: I'm okay with canceling it. I'm okay with tabling it. But I definitely want to make sure that we discuss this at the retreat and uh and just see where um our thought process and the discussion process is in September. [0:47:00, 0:47:08]: Well, Mayor Pro Tem may make a suggestion to you then make a motion to say that we discuss the retreat if that's the case. But stand by one second. Councilman Blount, please. [0:47:09, 0:47:13]: Uh first of all, Mr. Knight and I just wanna say to you and staff [0:47:13, 0:47:15]: That when we voted on something [0:47:16, 0:47:17]: You are moved on it. [0:47:17, 0:47:18]: El [0:47:19, 0:47:19]: It becomes [0:47:20, 0:47:22]: an interesting position for staff. [0:47:22, 0:47:26]: That we complain when you don't move on something. [0:47:26, 0:47:32]: And then we complain when you do move on something. So I I I think you ought to damn if you do and damned if you don't. [0:47:32, 0:47:35]: I think that when this council sits down and we make [0:47:35, 0:47:37]: Uh we vote on something. [0:47:37, 0:47:43]: The principle of that is to move something forward or to discontinue something or table something. [0:47:43, 0:47:45]: And this pos and in this case [0:47:45, 0:47:47]: It was to move something forward. [0:47:47, 0:47:52]: And when Staff did that, now we're coming back and now we're we're going in a different direction. [0:47:52, 0:47:54]: We have to all sit down and figure out uh [0:47:55, 0:47:59]: where we want to go as a council and how we want to how we want staff to move because the staff moves [0:48:00, 0:48:01]: Then that's what we have [0:48:02, 0:48:03]: That's what we've asked them to do. [0:48:04, 0:48:05]: That's the directive we've given them. [0:48:06, 0:48:12]: And so when we talk about principles of voting and and and st uh uh to move projects forward. [0:48:13, 0:48:16]: We have to congratulate when they're being done. [0:48:16, 0:48:17]: rather than sit here [0:48:18, 0:48:25]: and and and basically shoot it down because wow they've done this and hey let's let's switch another direction. We have that right as a as a council to [0:48:26, 0:48:30]: say we want to go a different direction. That's that's that's that's what we we can do that. We have that power. [0:48:31, 0:48:33]: But we have to be careful and cautious. [0:48:34, 0:48:35]: But when we test [0:48:35, 0:48:37]: staff with something and they do it. [0:48:37, 0:48:39]: that we're sitting here belittling a process that we [0:48:40, 0:48:41]: But in pro in in progress. [0:48:42, 0:48:43]: That's all I gotta say on that. [0:48:44, 0:48:49]: Yeah. The one of the unknown factors though is that Mr. Williams got to check it out in the contract. We may we may may have to if we [0:48:50, 0:48:53]: delay this, obviously it may be some type of financial penalty, I'm assuming. [0:48:53, 0:48:56]: I mean you have to research and and and figure that out. [0:48:56, 0:48:59]: Uh so uh that is still unknown. [0:48:59, 0:49:00]: in this aspect as well. [0:49:01, 0:49:02]: Now uh okay, so [0:49:03, 0:49:04]: Any more discussion? [0:49:05, 0:49:20]: I so yes ma'am. Go ahead, Miss Barber. Is City Hall still closed to the public? Yes it is. So it was still closed to a contractor to begin work. Or was this [0:49:20, 0:49:21]: Um [0:49:21, 0:49:26]: public work staff that was going to be tasked with constructing these offices. [0:49:28, 0:49:29]: Mr. Knight. [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: It was a contractor. [0:49:31, 0:49:32]: Contractor. [0:49:32, 0:49:33]: Okay. [0:49:33, 0:49:33]: Thank you. [0:49:35, 0:49:39]: All right. So we've had a lot of discussion. So what what what's the uh [0:49:39, 0:49:43]: Decision of the council. Need a motion what what we want to do here as a as a cre collected group. [0:49:45, 0:49:47]: We've already done in a sense reconsidered this. [0:49:50, 0:49:52]: Well Matt. [0:49:53, 0:49:54]: Excuse me, sir. [0:49:54, 0:49:56]: Mm. [0:49:56, 0:49:57]: Yes, we are. [0:49:58, 0:50:03]: So you said uh I think I think Councilman Thomas, uh Mayor Protein Thomas had alluded to [0:50:03, 0:50:07]: uh table until we get to the retreat to uh identify some [0:50:07, 0:50:08]: I'm not for [0:50:08, 0:50:12]: getting rid of it. I think I think that we need office space there. Extra office space. [0:50:12, 0:50:17]: Uh Mr. Mayor. Uh can the city clerk recall [0:50:18, 0:50:19]: Um [0:50:19, 0:50:23]: What I know it was it was a motion, it was second. [0:50:23, 0:50:27]: Uh what was the what was voted on, Madam Clerk? [0:50:29, 0:50:30]: You you you're mooted. [0:50:30, 0:50:30]: Really? [0:50:31, 0:50:33]: There you go. That was your motion to reconsider. [0:50:35, 0:50:41]: You have to have a motion just to reconsider and bring it back. Now you're in discussion on what you want to do. [0:50:41, 0:50:44]: None that you brought the item back. Correct, Mr. Williams. [0:50:46, 0:50:46]: That is correct. [0:50:48, 0:50:50]: Okay, so [0:50:51, 0:50:52]: Um [0:50:53, 0:50:57]: Like I like I mentioned before, I'm okay with discussing it later. [0:50:57, 0:51:01]: I do not want to say cancel altogether. [0:51:01, 0:51:04]: Even though if if you cancel it now. [0:51:04, 0:51:16]: And even if you get to the retreat and cancel it then or if you get to the retreat and say you don't wanna do it, uh it i it's all the same, but it seems like either way [0:51:16, 0:51:18]: It's gonna have to run back for a vote. [0:51:19, 0:51:19]: To go forward. [0:51:20, 0:51:25]: Well okay, make make a motion because right now it if nothing happens it they're gonna be there on Thursday. [0:51:26, 0:51:26]: That's the thing. [0:51:27, 0:51:31]: They're coming on Thursday. Well well that that's that's slightly [0:51:31, 0:51:37]: Uh y y you're correct. If nothing happens the it will go forward on Thursday. So we just need, you know [0:51:37, 0:51:40]: Whether it's a table or a cancellation. [0:51:40, 0:51:44]: My recommendation is to table it, that will buy us some time to to [0:51:45, 0:51:50]: uh work with them if in the event that you decide to go forward with it. We haven't [0:51:50, 0:51:52]: You know sever ties with with this. [0:51:53, 0:51:57]: group when we can tell them it's it's being delayed while council reviews it. [0:51:58, 0:52:03]: Well well, Mr. Mayor, but what I what I don't want to do, if even if we table this [0:52:03, 0:52:07]: I I do not want other expenses to be um [0:52:08, 0:52:22]: move going forward. And in fact, when we do come to retreat and we decide to cancel. So by tabling it then it sh there should not be any action. There should not be any more expenses exerted toward this. Am I correct? [0:52:23, 0:52:25]: I I I would assume so. That's my assumption. [0:52:26, 0:52:30]: Yeah, that would be the case. That there would be no action with respect to that contract. [0:52:32, 0:52:38]: Okay, well I I'm okay with uh with just tabling it for now with the understanding. [0:52:38, 0:52:45]: that you know, we w it it would have to come back to the Florida Council for uh uh for an affirmative vote to go forward. [0:52:46, 0:52:48]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:52:49, 0:52:52]: Ms. Count uh Councilman Barber seconds that. Any further discussion? [0:52:52, 0:52:59]: All very mister Mr. Mayor, I just wanna clarify what I said when I said no further action. We still need to have a conversation with them. [0:52:59, 0:53:03]: Right. [0:53:04, 0:53:06]: uh putting the contract on hold. [0:53:06, 0:53:08]: Right. Yeah, I under yeah, makes sense. Understand. [0:53:09, 0:53:11]: No further discussion. In all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:53:12, 0:53:14]: One, two, three. [0:53:14, 0:53:15]: Oes. [0:53:16, 0:53:17]: What? [0:53:18, 0:53:20]: Okay, I got three one one is what I have. [0:53:21, 0:53:22]: Okay. [0:53:23, 0:53:27]: You said three one one. Yeah, Mr. Blount. I don't know, Mr. Blount. Mr. Blount, what was your vote? [0:53:29, 0:53:30]: Is this to what? [0:53:30, 0:53:38]: Motion to um table with the understanding of a determining vote by the council. [0:53:38, 0:53:40]: Following the retreat. [0:53:41, 0:53:43]: Well, I'm for uh I'm for [0:53:44, 0:53:45]: I'm for [0:53:45, 0:53:47]: Tabling it versus re removing it. [0:53:48, 0:53:48]: Okay. [0:53:49, 0:53:50]: So we'll make that three two. [0:53:52, 0:53:54]: It passes the the motion passes three to two. [0:53:55, 0:54:01]: Okay. I I believe it's it's four one. Wait, I'm not sure. Um what is your vote, Councilman Blount? [0:54:03, 0:54:09]: I'm if it if the vote is to sustain it, I'm saying is to table it versus removing it. [0:54:09, 0:54:10]: I'm for tabling. [0:54:11, 0:54:15]: Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Attorney. I appreciate that. Four one. [0:54:16, 0:54:17]: Four one. [0:54:17, 0:54:18]: Right. [0:54:20, 0:54:23]: Ms. Gantt, was your vote in opposed or abstained? [0:54:24, 0:54:25]: No actually [0:54:26, 0:54:27]: I thought we were v [0:54:27, 0:54:29]: I'm confused. I'm sorry. [0:54:29, 0:54:33]: I'm voting I was voting against reconsidering. We've already voted for that. [0:54:33, 0:54:35]: Right. Then we went back. [0:54:36, 0:54:39]: What are we vote we voting to table this until when? [0:54:39, 0:54:48]: Okay, the the motion was to table with the understanding of a determining vote by the council following the retreat. [0:54:51, 0:54:52]: I'll abstain. [0:54:52, 0:54:55]: I'm my I I just have a concern about [0:54:56, 0:55:02]: if there's a penalty for delay, you know, a project when someone could have had a job somewhere else. So [0:55:03, 0:55:04]: I'd abstain for now. [0:55:05, 0:55:09]: I I mean for legal purposes, I'd say. [0:55:09, 0:55:11]: I ha I've recorded it, thank you. [0:55:11, 0:55:15]: So it's four zero one then is what it is. Correct. Okay, thank you. [0:55:15, 0:55:15]: All right. [0:55:16, 0:55:28]: All right, next um uh this deals with the resolution in reference to the URA. Uh it was brought added by Mare Potem, but this is something I think the our legal counsel should take the lead on with our guests tonight as well. [0:55:28, 0:55:30]: Mr. Wooles, please. [0:55:30, 0:55:31]: That is correct, sir. [0:55:31, 0:55:32]: Okay. [0:55:33, 0:55:37]: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. Um, so you have a resolution in front of you. [0:55:37, 0:55:39]: Um which uh would [0:55:40, 0:55:49]: Uh designate the city council as the urban redevelopment agency of the city of Stockbridge. Uh you will recall that. [0:55:49, 0:55:51]: And twenty six stin. [0:55:51, 0:55:57]: The city designated the uh board of the downtown development authority to do that. [0:55:57, 0:55:58]: Um [0:55:59, 0:56:02]: since that time they they've not met in [0:56:03, 0:56:04]: Um there's really no [0:56:05, 0:56:10]: uh normal routine reason for the ura to meet [0:56:10, 0:56:16]: Um however an issue has come up um with respect to the amphitheater. [0:56:16, 0:56:19]: Джорджа пора ніцмет. [0:56:21, 0:56:25]: to be allowed to install and maintain uh electric [0:56:25, 0:56:30]: circuit or conduit to provide power for the amphitheater and the ancillary buildings there. [0:56:31, 0:56:32]: Um the [0:56:33, 0:56:37]: portion of the land where that easement runs is [0:56:37, 0:56:42]: titled in the name of the urban redevelopment agency. So we need that entity [0:56:42, 0:56:44]: to uh execute [0:56:45, 0:56:46]: The ease map. [0:56:46, 0:56:47]: Um [0:56:47, 0:56:54]: And I'm I'm not gonna sort of go into a long um discussion about why uh the downtown development authority [0:56:54, 0:56:58]: might not be the best entity to serve in the capacity of the URA. [0:56:59, 0:57:16]: Um but what and I you know I provided some information about that to the council over the weekend, but what this does is it eliminates that unnecessary step and designates the city council as the board for the uh URA as is permitted under state law. [0:57:16, 0:57:36]: And in doing so, uh all what would have to happen is if you voted to approve that resolution, we would have to designate a a you know time in the near future for a meeting of the URA to occur, which would be you know the the six of you all. And at that point we would discuss the easement how [0:57:36, 0:57:37]: However [0:57:37, 0:57:43]: We do have representatives from Kekkenwood who can speak to the need for the easement. [0:57:44, 0:57:52]: um and and any other issues related to it, uh that to the extent you all have questions. But in my mind, um, you know [0:57:52, 0:57:57]: While this isn't uh necessarily a housekeeping matter, this is you know [0:57:58, 0:58:14]: uh a a fairly reasonable, you know, uh solution to accelerate any action that needs to take place with respect to the amphitheater by making the decision making, uh putting the decision making in the hands of the city council. [0:58:15, 0:58:29]: All right, thank you. And uh so for Mr. Kekken Wood, who who'll who would like to speak on that to give your piece here, sir? Which gentleman. There you go. Okay. I well I guess I will speak on that. Um [0:58:30, 0:58:50]: I was um Keckenwood has just been brought on board the last two weeks or so to uh to play a part in that project. So um I've been uh working with the contractor and the architect uh and the folks um with the city to understand a lot of the issues there and what of them [0:58:50, 0:58:54]: is of course this isma and just to kind of fill you in on [0:58:55, 0:58:59]: Um the importance of the easement. [0:58:59, 0:59:06]: Um my understanding from the contractor is that the project is at the stage now. [0:59:07, 0:59:10]: that the uh the power loop [0:59:10, 0:59:27]: from Georgia Power needs to be installed rather soon. I don't know what I can't give you an exact time frame, but let's say within weeks we need to be initiating that installation. It's an underground power service entry feed to the various buildings on site. [0:59:28, 0:59:48]: Um the contractor is now erecting those buildings and will be needing permanent power on those uh buildings rather quickly. Uh plus because it's underground, uh various site work activities will need to follow that. So we need to go ahead and get that uh that installed. Uh so [0:59:48, 0:59:57]: Um, you know, I think I think it's right to say time is of the essence to get the easement executed so that Georgia Power can proceed with their work. [0:59:58, 0:59:59]: Okay. [0:59:59, 1:00:05]: Council, any questions for uh Carl here at all in reference to Keck and Wood and and their piece of this? [1:00:05, 1:00:06]: Anything? [1:00:07, 1:00:07]: Are you? [1:00:08, 1:00:09]: Yes, ma'am. Miss Bobby? [1:00:10, 1:00:23]: I wanted to know since they've been brought on board, have you all had the opportunity to review our final executed contract along with the um final bid documents? [1:00:26, 1:00:36]: I don't I don't believe that that we've been tasked to do that, but if if that's the case, uh I'll refer to Mr. Knighton as to whether or not we should be doing that. [1:00:37, 1:00:56]: Yeah. Um now are they attending the weekly project management meetings? Okay. Yes, they are. They are and Mr. Trevayfan is providing me um with weekly reports, full scale reports um to me directly of the progress and they are part of those meetings as well. They did meet on site. [1:00:56, 1:00:58]: with um the cur or the [1:00:59, 1:01:00]: H. J. Russell team [1:01:00, 1:01:12]: um initially a couple of weeks ago and uh spent about four probably five or six hours maybe uh with them on site and um he is and and her heck and wood has been tasked with providing me [1:01:12, 1:01:19]: with weekly uh updates of the progress in any areas of question or concern of the project. And they have been providing those to me. [1:01:20, 1:01:22]: Okay, good. Thank you. [1:01:22, 1:01:26]: Right, um Mr. Pitts, I just don't know one no. Do you have anything you need to add, sir at all? [1:01:27, 1:01:44]: No, I I don't may Mr Mayor. I'm just glad to be part of this. Um and just for y'all's information, uh Carl works for for me. I'm I'm the project manager from our standpoint, so I'm I'm here to support whatever y'all need to do out there. So [1:01:44, 1:01:50]: Okay. Thank you, sir. I don't know Council Council, if there are no other questions at all, I just need a motion to accept that resolution. [1:01:50, 1:01:51]: And we can go forward. [1:01:53, 1:01:54]: Is there a motion? [1:01:55, 1:01:55]: Castle and Blount? [1:01:57, 1:01:59]: You you make a motion to go forward that sir? That was your [1:02:00, 1:02:01]: Yeah, so move. [1:02:01, 1:02:02]: Don't move. Is there a second? [1:02:03, 1:02:07]: I second. Mr. Mayor Potem seconds that any if there are any further any further discussion. [1:02:08, 1:02:10]: If not, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:02:11, 1:02:14]: Okay, fantastic. You know, okay, good deal. [1:02:14, 1:02:22]: Mr. Mayor, um a couple of quick things. One, um, and and you don't have to decide today, but we we do need to [1:02:22, 1:02:33]: um schedule a a meeting fairly quickly uh for the URA, for you all to meet as the URA. It should shouldn't be more than about a ten or fifteen minute meeting if that. [1:02:33, 1:02:53]: um in order to g to approve the easement. Now if if the if you are also inclined um to uh uh allow the mayor to sign the easement in the capacity as the presiding officer of the URA and that be ratified at that meeting so it can proceed, uh you know we we could do that as well. [1:02:53, 1:02:55]: But whatever the pleasure is of the council. [1:02:56, 1:02:57]: All right. [1:02:57, 1:02:59]: Are we able to do that now? [1:02:59, 1:03:07]: Well, y it wouldn't be a vote, but but if if if if the the majority of the council signaled that they were okay with the mayor [1:03:08, 1:03:14]: signing it as the chair of the URA and having that ratified at the next meeting, um, then we can do that. [1:03:15, 1:03:19]: But you don't have to vote just just g give our give your approval verbally. [1:03:19, 1:03:26]: Yes. Okay. Alexander says yes. Anybody else? B Barber's yes. Yes. [1:03:26, 1:03:32]: All right, so I guess that makes it that's a majority super majority. Oh, he's pointing. Blount's pointing. Do you remember what's up with that? [1:03:32, 1:03:52]: Uh okay. So I say uh uh Mayor Proteva, I guess you'll go with this as well. I say yes. Okay, okay, got so we're good. So appreciate and then then one other uh unrelated item while I have the floor, if I could take the the privilege, Mr. Mayor. Right at the time. Um there there was some discussion about having the uh council uh [1:03:52, 1:04:01]: Adopt a resolution in support of the amicus brief that the Georgia Municipal Association filed in the case between Governor. [1:04:01, 1:04:07]: Kemp in the city of Atlanta with regard to the enforcement of the mass policies. [1:04:07, 1:04:10]: uh that the city of Atlanta imposed. [1:04:10, 1:04:11]: Um [1:04:11, 1:04:18]: I I had anticipated that would be part of tonight's agenda to just a a resolution in support of that. Um [1:04:19, 1:04:23]: You know, again it's it's the council's pleasure, but I just wanted to throw that out there. [1:04:23, 1:04:24]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead. [1:04:24, 1:04:31]: Yes, sir. That'd be great. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda to add this resolution to tonight's meeting. [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: I second. All right. [1:04:34, 1:04:41]: Okay, Miss Barber Secondette, uh no problem. So any further discussion? Uh Miss Mayor, what's that Miss Barber or Ms. Gann? Ms. Barber. [1:04:42, 1:04:45]: It was Miss Gantt. Oh, wasn't Gantt? Yes. [1:04:46, 1:04:47]: Okay. [1:04:47, 1:04:57]: Oh, I'm sorry. It I heard her. I think you raised your hand as well, but I think I heard Council. I'm on I'm not on mute. Um, I was just okay, I'm sorry. My bad. Okay. [1:04:58, 1:05:10]: We got it straight now. Okay. So on uh that note, on that resolution, uh any further discussion? And if not, uh got a motion of a second. All in favor of that motion, please indicate. [1:05:11, 1:05:31]: All right, fantastic. All right. So I guess do you have that ready, sir? And when I get in in office, I'll I'll sign that. Okay, and we'll send it forward to CMA. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry I just want to clarify. I made the motion to add it to the agenda. We need to actually approve it, right? Right. That's correct. Thank you, Councilman. Okay. I would like to make a motion to uh approve the um [1:05:31, 1:05:34]: brief as discussed by the attorney to [1:05:34, 1:05:43]: To add uh the GMA, uh support GMA in the brief against the governor. Again, they owned by the governor. Okay. Home rule. [1:05:43, 1:05:50]: Okay. Okay. Gas second. Miss Barber s Miss Barber actually seconded already. Oh. [1:05:50, 1:05:52]: Alexander and Barber. All right. [1:05:53, 1:05:55]: Any further discuss. If not. [1:05:56, 1:05:58]: Okay. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:06:00, 1:06:03]: All right, fantastic. Okay, now we're good. Thank you, sir. Place for straighten me out. [1:06:03, 1:06:04]: All right. [1:06:04, 1:06:07]: On that note, uh I have my comments. [1:06:07, 1:06:10]: Uh folks you realize this is twenty twenty. [1:06:11, 1:06:13]: This is a a census year. [1:06:13, 1:06:19]: So and census is very important. So if you haven't filled out your census documents and been counted properly, please do so. [1:06:19, 1:06:24]: It means multiple um funds, federal funds come into our community when we're properly accounted for. [1:06:25, 1:06:45]: And we are the largest city, Starbury's largest city in Henry County, and I would speculate that we'll still be the largest city once it's all all the data is turned in there. So please go out. If you haven't created a census, please do so. I believe you can go to our website and you can receive and and and uh log on there and get the actual link that you need to do to uh apply and and and get the census done. All right. [1:06:44, 1:06:46]: So if you haven't done so, please do so. [1:06:48, 1:06:50]: The public health department, of course, we're in district four. [1:06:51, 1:06:57]: And uh once again, if you have any symptoms you need to get tested, the number for to set your appointment, the number is eight hundred. [1:06:58, 1:07:00]: eight four seven four two six two. Once again eight hundred. [1:07:01, 1:07:03]: eight four seven four two six two free of charge. [1:07:04, 1:07:07]: It's daily from eight to one atherites senior center. [1:07:07, 1:07:09]: Look at McGardy Road in McDonough. [1:07:09, 1:07:13]: And by the way, the city of Hampton is going to have a pop up testing site. [1:07:13, 1:07:18]: Now even though it's in Hampton, you can still go, they're free of charge if you have transportation. That'll be August sixth. [1:07:18, 1:07:23]: eight AM to one PM. It's gonna be at the city park. There'll be the advertisement and and public release. [1:07:23, 1:07:41]: uh press uh release coming out about that as well. Once again City Hampton, a pop-up testing site for COVID nineteen, August 6th, 8 a.m. to 1 PM. And by the way, August 6th. Doesn't that ring something in your mind? What is August 6th? That is our Centennial folks. 100 years as a as a incorporated city. [1:07:41, 1:07:46]: Now obviously this year we'll have to do this by way of uh virtual, but it's but we're gonna celebrate. [1:07:47, 1:07:50]: And I can't wait to twenty twenty one'cause we'll have to make up all that time, right? [1:07:51, 1:07:55]: Virtual parade drive-through, how about that? [1:07:56, 1:07:59]: Now you know what else is is very important besides a centennial. [1:08:00, 1:08:03]: of the city Stockbridge Honey Year Anniversary, August sixth. [1:08:03, 1:08:06]: You know what else is very important about August Sixth? [1:08:06, 1:08:13]: August sixth of nineteen sixty-five was the actual signing of the vote the initial voting rights act. [1:08:14, 1:08:17]: Yeah, August sixth, nineteen sixty five, fifty-five years ago. [1:08:18, 1:08:19]: On August sixth. [1:08:20, 1:08:27]: Lynn B. Johnson signed that act. And present during that act was uh Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. [1:08:28, 1:08:30]: John Lewis. [1:08:30, 1:08:31]: And Rosa Parks. [1:08:32, 1:08:35]: And of course John Lewis indicates that his heroes [1:08:35, 1:08:38]: or Darton Luther Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks. [1:08:39, 1:08:40]: Go figure, right? [1:08:40, 1:08:44]: And by the way, Stockbridge is what? The ancestral home of the King family. [1:08:44, 1:08:45]: Amen. [1:08:45, 1:08:53]: All right. So we we have a part of this history in reference to civil rights, human rights. We are part of this history. [1:08:54, 1:08:56]: And what I like to do now is is it was it was um [1:08:57, 1:08:58]: And thanks to the [1:08:58, 1:09:01]: The clerk for handling this I'd like to do now is read a proclamation. [1:09:02, 1:09:13]: Honoring civil rights legends, icons, men of that that gave their lives to what is right for the people, not just minorities, for all people, human rights and civil rights and voting rights, period. [1:09:14, 1:09:16]: Honoring Civil Rights Legends, July twenty eighth, twenty twenty. [1:09:17, 1:09:24]: Whereas Joseph Eccles Lowry was born october sixth, nineteen twenty one, to Leroy Lowry and Dora. [1:09:24, 1:09:35]: Flacker in Huttsville, Alabama, whereas Reverend Joseph E. Lowry was a minister of the United Methodist Church and leader in the civil rights movement alongside Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. [1:09:36, 1:09:38]: And whereas Reverend Joseph E. Lowry [1:09:38, 1:09:40]: was co-founder of the Southern Christian [1:09:40, 1:09:47]: Excuse me, leadership conference, serving as vice president, later chairman of the board from nineteen seventy-seven to nineteen ninety-seven. [1:09:47, 1:09:49]: It was his president. [1:09:49, 1:10:04]: President and whereas Reverend Joseph E. Lowry was dubbed by the NAACP as a dean of civil rights movement, one of Atlanta's key social, religious and civil rights figures participating in major activities of the civil rights movement in the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties. [1:10:04, 1:10:10]: continued his civil rights work until the twenty first century. He passed away on March twenty seventh, twenty twenty, in Atlanta, Georgia. [1:10:10, 1:10:16]: Whereas Cordell Tendall C T Villian was born july thirtieth, nineteen twenty four in Boonville, Missouri. [1:10:17, 1:10:30]: And whereas Reverend C.T. Vivian was very active in the civil rights movement as a leader with the Southern Leadership Conference, serving as a national director and later served as the interim president. And whereas Reverend C.T. Vivian was a man of insight. [1:10:30, 1:10:35]: wisdom, integrity, dedications. His efforts and dedications span over six decades. [1:10:36, 1:10:39]: From his first sit in in the nineteen forties in Peoria, Illinois. [1:10:39, 1:10:42]: Later to join forces with Dr. Martin Luther King Junior. [1:10:42, 1:10:46]: after the civil rights movement victorious nineteen fifty five Montgomery bus boycott. [1:10:47, 1:11:01]: Whereas Reverend C. T. Vivian assisted in organizing the Freedom Riders that were instrumental in fighting in integration across the South and the Jim Crow laws as he trained activists to pursue nonviolent protests even in the face of many beatings and much brutality. [1:11:02, 1:11:10]: He founded the CT Vivian Leadership Institute, create a model leadership culture in Atlanta, Georgia. He passed away July seventeenth, twenty twenty, in Atlanta, Georgia. [1:11:10, 1:11:19]: Whereas John Robert Lewis was born to sharecroppers, Eddie Lewis and William May Carter Lewis on february twenty first, nineteen forty in Pike County, Alabama. [1:11:19, 1:11:28]: And whereas John Lewis, American civil rights leader and U.S. congressman, best known for his chairmanship of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, SNCC. [1:11:28, 1:11:34]: And for leading the march that was halted by police violence under Emmett Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama. [1:11:34, 1:11:38]: That was March seventh, nineteen sixty five, a landmark event. [1:11:38, 1:11:42]: in the history of the civil rights movement and that that became known as Bloody Sunday. [1:11:43, 1:11:48]: And whereas John Lewis was inspired by his activism surrounding the Montgomery boy uh bus boycott. [1:11:48, 1:12:06]: In the words of Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. and all those bivocal move uh movements, he made a decision to become a part of the civil rights movement, including organizing lunch counter citizens and organizing freedom writers. At the age of twenty-three, he's an architect and a keynote speaker of the historic March on Washington in August 1963. [1:12:07, 1:12:10]: and uh one of the six big six leaders of the civil rights movement. [1:12:11, 1:12:13]: Eras John Lewis was known. [1:12:13, 1:12:18]: As a conscience of the Congress and is famously quoted, When you see something that is not right. [1:12:18, 1:12:30]: Not fair, not just. You have to speak up. You have to say something. You have to do something. He passed away july seventeenth, twenty twenty, Atlanta, Georgia. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me, [1:12:30, 1:12:37]: As a mayor of City Stockbridge, Georgia, on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Alanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeesia Gantt, Alfonso Thomas. [1:12:38, 1:12:40]: You hereby proclaim Tuesday, july twenty, twenty twenty. [1:12:41, 1:12:45]: As a legends of civil rights day here in the city of Stockbridge as we honor C T Vivian. [1:12:46, 1:12:51]: Reverend Joseph E. Lauer and US Congressman John Lewis, all giants of the civil rights movement. [1:12:51, 1:12:52]: And having been awarded. [1:12:52, 1:12:56]: All of them have been awarded Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Barack Obama. [1:12:56, 1:12:59]: We honor them for the sacrifice, courage, and life's work. [1:12:59, 1:13:06]: Witness thereof, I have here unto set my hand on a great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the twentieth day of July, the year of our Lord [1:13:07, 1:13:12]: two thousand and twenty signed by myself and our clerk Vanessa Holliday. God bless, I'll tell you. [1:13:13, 1:13:15]: And further notice, ladies and gentlemen. [1:13:16, 1:13:35]: If you have an inkling to go down to the state capitol at Georgia tomorrow to actually view and say your last respects to Congressman John Lewis, you can do so anywhere from three to seven PM tomorrow and or eight to ten tomorrow. Three to seven or eight to ten down to Georgia State uh Georgia State uh [1:13:35, 1:13:36]: Capital. [1:13:36, 1:13:37]: Jeez. [1:13:38, 1:13:44]: I tell you, uh these three gentlemen set the tone, set the pace. Who picks up the mangle next? The baton has been passed. [1:13:45, 1:13:47]: We gotta do it, folks. This is great stuff. [1:13:48, 1:13:49]: On that note. [1:13:49, 1:13:51]: Um upcoming the meetings. [1:13:53, 1:13:59]: Yeah, I'm taken back by this. I'll tell you. And don't you feel good, folks? I'll tell you these gentlemen fantastic. Great men. Great men. [1:13:59, 1:14:00]: Anyway. [1:14:00, 1:14:04]: Council meeting Monday, August tenth, twenty twenty, six PM via Zoom via Zoom. [1:14:05, 1:14:09]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting uh Friday, uh, August fourteenth. [1:14:09, 1:14:11]: Nine a and nine a.m. Bazoom. [1:14:13, 1:14:23]: Uh downtown Development Authority has their next meeting Tuesday, August 18th, 2020, 6 p.m. by Zoom. New Council Advisory meeting is Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 630 by Zoom. [1:14:23, 1:14:27]: Our Nick City Council work sessions Tuesday, August 25th. [1:14:27, 1:14:41]: 630 by Zoom. And of course our planning commission meeting is Thursday, August 27th, uh 630 by Zoom. It's all the events that I have here. On that note, ladies and gentlemen, I like to act ask for a motion to adjourn the meeting. [1:14:41, 1:14:42]: A move. [1:14:42, 1:14:43]: Is there a second? [1:14:44, 1:14:48]: I second. All in favor, uh Miss Barber second that. All in favor, please indicate. [1:14:50, 1:14:53]: Goodbye and God bless you all. Be safe. Thank you. Good night.

--- title: July 13 2020 City Council Meeting date: 2020-07-13 source: 2020-07-13_July_13_2020_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:03]: And on that note, I'd like to call the meeting to order. [0:00:03, 0:00:06]: This is a council meeting July thirteenth. [0:00:06, 0:00:07]: Twenty twenty [0:00:08, 0:00:12]: And uh invocation, Mr Blount, please, Councilman Blount, please give the invocation, sir. [0:00:19, 0:00:20]: Do you all hear me? [0:00:20, 0:00:22]: Yes. [0:00:23, 0:00:23]: Okay. [0:00:26, 0:00:32]: Dear heaven gracious Father, we thank you uh for this time and we thank you for this moment. We thank you for your grace and your mercy. [0:00:32, 0:00:35]: We have to do we come together right now, I am the father and that's [0:00:36, 0:00:42]: Be about the city business and we father that we will move about and do the things that are also pleasing in your sight for us, God. [0:00:42, 0:00:47]: We thank you all for this opportunity to serve our communities. We think it for this opportunity to have an equality [0:00:47, 0:00:57]: Make a footprint, Heavenly Father, that would be lasting for the citizens to stop this. We thank you for each and every one on this call right now, Heavenly Father, that you would protect and cover the leaders right now in the name of Jesus. [0:00:57, 0:01:03]: So we thank you, Father, for what you're about to do in this city, Heavenly Father, and that we are part of it. And it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:01:04, 0:01:05]: Yeah. [0:01:05, 0:01:07]: Your pledge allegiance, please stand. [0:01:12, 0:01:14]: Blood religions beautiful. [0:01:15, 0:01:25]: United States of America and to the Republic which stands one nation under God and the visible of liberty and justice for all. [0:01:26, 0:01:26]: [ 88.2, 90.0]: Gotta put roll call, please. [0:01:32, 0:01:34]: Mayor Ford? Is it [0:01:35, 0:01:37]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:01:43, 0:01:44]: You mute it. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: And do you see it? [0:01:47, 0:01:48]: Who who've muted? [0:01:49, 0:01:52]: You were, but you're not now. [0:01:55, 0:02:03]: Madam Clerk. Yes. Madam Clerk, this is Randy Knight and Councilman Alexander is trying to get in as we speak. So I'm trying to get him connected. [0:02:04, 0:02:04]: Right. [0:02:06, 0:02:08]: All right. Councilwoman Barber. [0:02:08, 0:02:08]: Okay. [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: Councilman Blount. [0:02:12, 0:02:12]: [133.5, 134.7]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:02:15, 0:02:15]: Present. [0:02:16, 0:02:25]: And Mayor Ford, did you want me to wait for um let's go forward. We have a quorum. Let's move up. Okay, so we'll announce Councilman Alexander when he arrives. Thank you. [0:02:26, 0:02:28]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:02:29, 0:02:30]: So move. [0:02:30, 0:02:31]: No second. [0:02:31, 0:02:32]: A second. [0:02:32, 0:02:34]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:36, 0:02:38]: All right, Lence, all right. [0:02:38, 0:02:41]: What we have before us is the approval of the following meetings. [0:02:42, 0:02:57]: Council meeting which was May 11th of 2020. Also the council work session, May 26th of 2020. You have those before you. If there are no corrections of those or amendments to those particular uh minutes, then I need a motion to accept them, please. [0:02:59, 0:03:01]: Is there a motion accept the approval of the minutes? [0:03:03, 0:03:04]: So move. [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: I was there a second. [0:03:06, 0:03:15]: I second. Okay, there we go. All in favor, please. Mayor Ford, who did you take for the second? I heard two, two. I've got councilman, uh Councilwoman Barber for the second. [0:03:16, 0:03:17]: All favor, please indicate. [0:03:19, 0:03:21]: Okay. All right. Thank you very much. All right. [0:03:22, 0:03:22]: Um [0:03:23, 0:03:42]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? We do not. Okay. On that note, we'll go to number three, which is a public hearing continued. But before I open up that particular public hearing, it deals with council consideration approved service delivery strategy, SDS agreement between the city of Stockbridge and Henry County, presented by Mr. Knighton, please. [0:03:46, 0:03:52]: Yes, sir. Uh thank you, Mayor Ford. Um uh the item is related to a course service delivery strategy. [0:03:52, 0:04:05]: At the previous meeting, I went through um uh a description of what service delivery is. And again, it is an attempt to ensure that um cities and counties provide equitable. [0:04:05, 0:04:06]: Um uh [0:04:07, 0:04:11]: Taxes for uh all of their citizens, for the entire populace. [0:04:11, 0:04:18]: That all of the services that are provided by both cities and counties are accounted for and there are no duplication of services, therefore [0:04:18, 0:04:24]: There's no uh duplication or double taxation, if you will. It also involves tax equity. [0:04:24, 0:04:31]: When I reported this to you last uh meeting, uh we had made uh pretty good progress and have made some progress even since then. [0:04:31, 0:04:37]: Now of course there were some things that happened uh with Henry County that delayed a couple of things that we were trying to work through. [0:04:37, 0:04:51]: Jack Wilson is also on uh the uh Zoom meeting here. Of course, he has been providing uh some legal input regarding service delivery. Uh one of the outstanding issues previously was um the road situation. [0:04:51, 0:04:55]: I think we've gotten to um a pretty good place that we feel comfortable with. [0:04:55, 0:04:58]: With respect to how roads would be [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: um allocated [0:05:00, 0:05:11]: uh in terms of um any expenses involved and I can go into some detail about that basically that um there would be city roads and county roads and much of what there are now. [0:05:12, 0:05:18]: Um but um there would also be uh some supplement provided to cities based on road. [0:05:18, 0:05:19]: Lane. [0:05:19, 0:05:20]: Mileage. [0:05:21, 0:05:26]: in the city of Stockbridge we have about uh one hundred and one I believe one hundred and one [0:05:26, 0:05:42]: uh and a little bit more than that uh lane miles, about 101 lane miles. So there would be an allocation provided to us in the other cities based on lane mileage, which would also be connected to Henry County's overall, essentially their road budget. [0:05:43, 0:05:49]: And so we think that that is a fair, uh fairly fair and equitable way to do it beyond [0:05:49, 0:05:53]: Uh, quite honestly, what we have uh now is an arrangement. [0:05:53, 0:05:57]: Um and because there's a recognition and an acknowledgement. [0:05:57, 0:06:04]: That city taxpayers, city of tax brid Stockbridge taxpayers are paid into Henry County to maintain roads. [0:06:04, 0:06:06]: And so we need to account for that. [0:06:06, 0:06:09]: And in order to account for that, there would be um [0:06:10, 0:06:17]: a um essentially a payment if you will that would come back to the cities based on lane mileage out of the county budget. [0:06:18, 0:06:21]: And uh Mr. Wilson can it spout on that uh [0:06:22, 0:06:24]: In addition to what I've stated, uh if he would so choose. [0:06:25, 0:06:31]: Well actually I'd like to ask Mr. Wilson to add in at this time anything he needs to to address before we go to council questions. Go ahead, sir. [0:06:32, 0:06:39]: Steward, uh just very briefly, I I know there was some questions last month about the definition of county roads and city roads. [0:06:39, 0:06:45]: The agreement's been adjusted slightly to shore that up and to align those definitions with state law. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: And that should be beneficial. [0:06:47, 0:06:50]: to to the city in terms of adding some [0:06:50, 0:06:51]: Uh [0:06:51, 0:06:55]: Some specification about how those roads are defined. [0:06:55, 0:06:56]: Um [0:06:57, 0:07:09]: But but otherwise i it uh I I I think it's a a a fair and and and beneficial agreement that reflects some of the tax equity that we've been looking for throughout this process. So [0:07:10, 0:07:14]: Uh other than that I don't really have much to add. I'd be be happy to answer any questions. [0:07:15, 0:07:18]: All right, council, questions? First question. Any anybody? [0:07:20, 0:07:20]: Any thoughts? [0:07:23, 0:07:38]: Okay. Um okay, Mr. Let me let me let me ask you this, Mr. Knight and then okay, we're we're you're presenting this to us, we'll open up eventually to a pub for a public hearing. But what about the w when we sign off on this, when I sign off on this, obviously the council needs to [0:07:38, 0:07:53]: um be in sync uh with the the agreement, but also I'm concerned about the other cities. Where do we sit with the other cities in reference to this? I mean there's any city calls, any questions we need to talk about? Right. I think the other cities have had I think the road issue was a major issue. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: For all of the cities. [0:07:56, 0:08:05]: Um the other issue we'd wanna um finally see before there was an ultimate approval would be the millage rate differential issue, but that shouldn't shouldn't be [0:08:05, 0:08:08]: that difficult to get through, that really is more of a formula. [0:08:09, 0:08:16]: And then I know that there have been uh some concerns by our council with respect to police services. Now, again, police services would be held at [0:08:16, 0:08:18]: Uh what is um [0:08:19, 0:08:23]: what is performed for unincorporated residents would be performed for [0:08:23, 0:08:31]: city residents. Um there have been uh an opportunity to work on some of the issues with respect to um [0:08:31, 0:08:32]: Ordinance enforcement. [0:08:33, 0:08:48]: And um in fact I will be meeting tomorrow about that. I've talked to the administrative staff and they feel comfortable that we can work through that uh very simply and very easily with respect to ordinance enforcement. So that is extremely promising. [0:08:48, 0:08:53]: I'll be meeting with um their uh appropriate people tomorrow. [0:08:53, 0:08:56]: And we'll lay that out and hopefully shore everything up. [0:08:57, 0:09:00]: So um that I think is a is a very good development. [0:09:01, 0:09:04]: And once the details of that are um [0:09:04, 0:09:08]: determined, obviously I'll provide that to you for your consideration. [0:09:09, 0:09:13]: before we uh prove anything. Now that may be something that may be apart from service delivery. [0:09:14, 0:09:20]: But the issue um still is related to and and by expressed by the council is related to [0:09:21, 0:09:24]: how services are provided to the city of Stockbury. [0:09:25, 0:09:35]: My my assumption, this is more or less uh obviously it's a public hearing. Uh I don't think there will be the council will be agreeing to anything today that I that I think [0:09:35, 0:09:55]: Uh about after tonight's discussion, I would assume that there's going to be further discussion with you and the rest of the city managers of other cities to make sure we're all in sync here. Is is that right? That's correct. There are a couple of things that the other cities were most concerned about. I think there was a um parks issue and road issue as I mentioned earlier, and then I think [0:09:55, 0:10:14]: there was i think a fire issue has been worked out if i'm if i'm saying that correctly that's right um that has been worked out um and so we're in the home stretch now and it's just a matter of bringing all of this together and um assembling the county and the cities uh to uh finally bring uh bring it to a point where it can be [0:10:15, 0:10:19]: approved again before these few other items are refined. [0:10:20, 0:10:21]: I will come back to you. [0:10:21, 0:10:24]: Make sure you are comfortable specifically with those items. [0:10:25, 0:10:27]: And then uh you can consider it for approval. [0:10:28, 0:10:33]: All right. Uh council, once again, any questions that you may have for uh Mr. Knighton or uh Mr. Wilson at all? [0:10:33, 0:10:39]: Ms. Mayor Yeah, I just saw I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tem, I see Councilman Alexander's hand up first. [0:10:39, 0:10:40]: Well. [0:10:40, 0:10:46]: Yeah, first of all I had some difficulty logging in. The computer jammed up, so um [0:10:46, 0:11:06]: That was my reasoning for not being able to get on. I was trying to log on, but I could not log on. But but I first of all I want to ask uh Mr. Wilson and Mr. Knighton to very much clarify. We've been talking about these Mr. Knighton cle categorize them as the uh other minor issues. Those are those minor issues. [0:11:06, 0:11:12]: Or the police services and all of that have been the one holding up this particular agreement. So [0:11:13, 0:11:16]: I wanna understand uh from Mr Wilson. [0:11:17, 0:11:33]: What is the difference in the city's position and what was actually passed by Henry County? Because the city's position has always been that we wanted those uh that revenue returned to our municipal court and we wanted um certain other um [0:11:34, 0:11:49]: requirements of the county. So basic I want him to break down what the county actually passed versus what we're asking for and has there been any conversation about the two because we seem like we've been at that same impasse for multiple years now. [0:11:51, 0:11:51]: Sure. [0:11:52, 0:11:57]: So what what the county passed was an agreement, a proposed agreement. [0:11:57, 0:12:02]: That would provide police services inside the city of Stockbridge. [0:12:02, 0:12:04]: by the county police department. [0:12:04, 0:12:05]: Uh [0:12:05, 0:12:07]: Basically at the same [0:12:07, 0:12:11]: level of service and at the same rate of taxation. [0:12:12, 0:12:14]: as county taxpayers pay. [0:12:15, 0:12:16]: In other words [0:12:16, 0:12:20]: There there would be an obligation on the county's part to provide the service. [0:12:20, 0:12:23]: For the term of the agreement, uh, which is ten years. [0:12:24, 0:12:26]: And that Stockbridge basically would [0:12:26, 0:12:27]: Well. [0:12:27, 0:12:28]: Pay the same. [0:12:28, 0:12:32]: Stockbridge taxpayers would pay exactly the same as county taxpayers. [0:12:32, 0:12:33]: So i in terms of [0:12:34, 0:12:37]: service level in terms of tax equity. [0:12:37, 0:12:41]: The proposal is to to maintain all of that equally. [0:12:41, 0:12:42]: Or stockbridge. [0:12:42, 0:12:44]: citizens and taxpayers. [0:12:45, 0:12:47]: We what would it have cost us? [0:12:48, 0:12:50]: In terms of a [0:12:50, 0:12:52]: Yes, sir. The the [0:12:52, 0:12:54]: cost the city nothing. [0:12:54, 0:13:01]: cost the taxpayer the same as a Henry County taxpayer would pay for the same service in terms of a tax bill. [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: The the the the the tax billing would be uniform. [0:13:06, 0:13:08]: Right. And Mr. Knighton, in terms of that [0:13:09, 0:13:19]: This is the same position that we've been in for the past three or four years where we're operating. Uh, you know, uh of course, we have all the commercial establishments in Stockbridge. [0:13:20, 0:13:25]: The density is right here in the city. We've been asking for increased police services. [0:13:25, 0:13:27]: Uh what they passed does not [0:13:27, 0:13:40]: a lot for any extra police services uh in addition to um what we asked for in terms of uh extra patrolling or extra officer presence and uh the addition of the parking. [0:13:40, 0:13:41]: Um [0:13:41, 0:13:42]: Enforcement. [0:13:42, 0:13:52]: So how is it that we're gonna cross that threshold, we're gonna continue to operate how we're operating uh in a very densely populated area.

--- title: Special Called Meeting date: 2020-06-29 source: 2020-06-29_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: Not the [0:00:23, 0:00:25]: Yes. [0:00:56, 0:01:00]: No, I have three o'clock, but I know that we need our attorney before we can start this uh meeting. [0:01:02, 0:01:07]: So you said Mr. Knighton that he is oh there you are. Welcome, Mr. Williams. [0:01:11, 0:01:13]: Mr. Williams, you good? [0:01:20, 0:01:21]: Can you all hear me? [0:01:21, 0:01:23]: Uh we hear you now. Yes. [0:01:26, 0:01:28]: Yeah, stuck in traffic. [0:01:29, 0:01:32]: All right. As long as you're able to drive safely and be connected, we're good. [0:01:33, 0:01:42]: Yes, sir. All righty. On that note, I have uh I still got three o'clock. Hasn't been three oh one yet, so I'd like to call this special call meeting to order. [0:01:42, 0:01:45]: And uh on that note, um [0:01:46, 0:01:51]: And this is special call meeting for uh uh Monday, June twenty sixth. Madam Clerk, roll call please. [0:01:52, 0:01:56]: I'm s I'm sorry, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Invocation, Mr. Knighton, I'm sorry. [0:02:00, 0:02:01]: May we bow for a word of prayer. [0:02:03, 0:02:11]: Most gracious God, we thank you for this day and for your many blessings. We thank you for the opportunity to come together and to discuss the important matters. [0:02:12, 0:02:18]: Of the city of Stockbridge. We ask your blessing upon everyone assembled here and upon this great city. [0:02:19, 0:02:23]: Thank you for the gifts and experiences and knowledge. [0:02:23, 0:02:26]: Of our mayor and council and pray your blessing upon them. [0:02:26, 0:02:28]: And their families. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: We pray, God, that you will be in the midst of us. [0:02:32, 0:02:34]: And that the matters discussed will be in order. [0:02:34, 0:02:35]: We thank you. [0:02:35, 0:02:36]: And we pray. [0:02:37, 0:02:38]: Your son Jesus' name. [0:02:38, 0:02:39]: Amen. [0:02:39, 0:02:43]: Amen. All right, we'll stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:02:47, 0:02:56]: A pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republican. [0:02:56, 0:03:04]: One nation, another guy uh indivisible is liberty is just [0:03:05, 0:03:05]: [187.9, 190.1]: All right. Now Madam Clerk, roll call. [0:03:11, 0:03:12]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:03:15, 0:03:17]: Can you all hear me? Jonesman Alexander. [0:03:17, 0:03:19]: President. [0:03:19, 0:03:21]: Councilman Alexander, yes. [0:03:22, 0:03:22]: Present. [0:03:24, 0:03:25]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: Councilman Blount. [0:03:29, 0:03:30]: Present. [0:03:30, 0:03:32]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:03:32, 0:03:32]: Present. [0:03:33, 0:03:34]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:03:35, 0:03:35]: Present. [0:03:35, 0:03:38]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, appreciate it. Um [0:03:39, 0:03:42]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:03:44, 0:03:44]: So move [0:03:45, 0:03:46]: All right. Is it a second? [0:03:47, 0:03:48]: A second. [0:03:48, 0:03:50]: There we go. All in favor, please indicate. [0:03:51, 0:03:54]: Uh Unanimous. Okay. Appreciate that. [0:03:54, 0:03:56]: New business. [0:03:56, 0:04:04]: Council consideration to approve H. J. Russell change order in the amount of seven hundred ninety-four thousand dollars, three hundred and thirty-two. [0:04:05, 0:04:13]: And funny source will be SPLOS 4, presented by Mr. Knighton and Mike Williams, our attorney Williams, please go right ahead. [0:04:14, 0:04:20]: So I I believe all the council members have been briefed on this particular item. [0:04:20, 0:04:29]: Uh you all approved the underlying uh change to the contract uh a number of uh c couple of council meetings ago via resolution. [0:04:30, 0:04:33]: However, when it was presented to the council there's just a [0:04:33, 0:04:39]: uh mistake in how it was how it was presented in that there uh we do not have [0:04:39, 0:04:45]: an allowance uh section in the contract price with HJ Russell. So that [0:04:45, 0:04:47]: seven hundred plus thousand dollar figure. [0:04:48, 0:04:59]: um isn't included. And so that resolution needs to uh be replaced with a new resolution that authorizes a change order with the funds coming out of SWOSS. [0:05:01, 0:05:04]: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Williams. Ms. Knight, do you have anything to add right now, sir? [0:05:08, 0:05:26]: Uh not at the moment. Um as it was acknowledged, um this was uh we acknowledge and a mistake has been made. This was a mistake in the ma manner in which it was uh presented, given uh the fact that um that allowance um was in some earlier documents but was not in the last and final offer. [0:05:26, 0:05:28]: And that is the one that we need to be governed by. [0:05:30, 0:05:30]: Great. [0:05:31, 0:05:35]: You can never mention. [0:05:35, 0:05:35]: Yeah. [0:05:36, 0:05:37]: Let's go right here, sir. [0:05:38, 0:05:45]: Uh Mr. Williams, uh Mr. Knighton, I'm trying to get a better understanding uh from [0:05:46, 0:05:51]: The last legislation, as you mentioned um at the previous meeting. [0:05:51, 0:05:57]: And now here's another piece of legislation. Now my understanding of [0:05:57, 0:05:58]: Contracts. [0:05:59, 0:06:03]: Uh I I thought it was standard to have [0:06:03, 0:06:04]: Um [0:06:04, 0:06:07]: in the contract a contingency [0:06:08, 0:06:13]: and uh a change order uh line item. [0:06:13, 0:06:15]: And one supports the other one. [0:06:16, 0:06:18]: So I'm a I'm a little confused as to [0:06:19, 0:06:21]: The mistake [0:06:22, 0:06:25]: When you know, change orders and contingencies [0:06:25, 0:06:28]: or standard uh in the contract. So [0:06:30, 0:06:37]: I need a little bit more explanation how you said it was a mistake. Um what what what was the mistake? [0:06:40, 0:06:43]: So when it was presented [0:06:43, 0:06:46]: І вас презента [0:06:47, 0:06:50]: Built into the contract price was an allowance. [0:06:50, 0:06:55]: Um in the initial bid that was provided by H J Russell. [0:06:55, 0:06:57]: Um they did include [0:06:58, 0:07:01]: Approximately seven hundred thousand dollars. [0:07:01, 0:07:12]: um in in an owner's allowance and and typically that is for things like changes in materials, enhancements, upgrades, things that aren't [0:07:12, 0:07:13]: Um [0:07:14, 0:07:34]: necessary for the project, but would be enhancements to the project. And those would be solely within the discretion of the owner, in this case the city, in terms of whether or not the city wanted to include those types of items. So because that was solely within the control of the city and and based on some of the negotiations [0:07:34, 0:07:34]: [455.0, 461.9]: Um with them uh the uh decision was made and and recommended and the council approved. [0:07:42, 0:07:45]: A contract price that did not include allowances. [0:07:46, 0:07:49]: And so that that's what the initial uh [0:07:49, 0:07:51]: uh contract provided for but [0:07:52, 0:07:59]: Uh when the when it was presented it was presented uh to the council for the change order as if the allowances were part of the [0:08:00, 0:08:02]: the uh contract price and that was a mistake. [0:08:06, 0:08:10]: I I'm gonna yield and let someone ask some questions, but for me though [0:08:11, 0:08:15]: Uh it it's still not making a whole lot of sense. Um [0:08:16, 0:08:25]: You know, I have a little I'm a little familiar with change orders, um, and I've done some research since then. And what I've found that the change orders. [0:08:25, 0:08:31]: or append to the original contract and become part of the of the said contract. [0:08:31, 0:08:33]: And continuency is a provision. [0:08:34, 0:08:39]: uh that is budgeted uh to be used to pay the cost of change orders. [0:08:39, 0:08:58]: And it's and normally it's a it's a certain percentage, 10% uh uh or 15% uh of that. So this is where I'm a little confused. Um all of this should have been in the original contract as far as uh change orders and contingency. [0:08:59, 0:09:00]: But [0:09:00, 0:09:03]: I'm I'm I'm lost on the [0:09:03, 0:09:13]: on the mistake. That that's where I'm really lost, but I I yield and let someone else uh answer a question, but it's I'm I'm still lost with the explanation. [0:09:13, 0:09:15]: Of the mistake. [0:09:17, 0:09:21]: Okay, uh Miss Gann. I'm sorry, I saw Miss Gann's hat first. H hand first. Go ahead. [0:09:21, 0:09:23]: Um well [0:09:23, 0:09:32]: But Mayor, I just want to make the motion to approve the resolution. And I know that we'll have discussion after that. So I wanted to go ahead and make the motion first. All right, go ahead. [0:09:33, 0:09:38]: I would like to make the motion to approve the resolution. There's because we had already thought it about it. There's a second. [0:09:40, 0:09:40]: Is there a second? [0:09:44, 0:09:48]: Right now, Ms. Gand, doesn't seem like your colleagues wanna make a second ten, and I can't do that. Thank you. Okay. [0:09:49, 0:09:50]: Mr. Alexander. [0:09:51, 0:09:58]: Uh yes. I just want to completely understand before we move forward. And my discussion with the staff. [0:09:58, 0:10:18]: Uh and I understand where Carlson Thomas is coming from because I was totally confused. And this conversation took multiple questions for me to kind of understand what was really going on. What really happened is the mistake was made on our end and this particular portion was left out of the contract. And that was the mistake. [0:10:18, 0:10:21]: uh on our side is what I [0:10:22, 0:10:29]: begin to understand after I ask a series of questions. And I think that would be very helpful to everyone. [0:10:29, 0:10:40]: If we could just really state what really happened, which is this a uh allowance amount was supposed to be in the contract. It w the contract was reviewed. [0:10:40, 0:10:49]: Uh it was a oversight on our part that we did not make sure that this was in the original contract, and that's where we are now. Is that correct, Mr. Knighton? [0:10:50, 0:11:03]: This was the and and hopefully I can answer your question this way. When HJ Russell had provided uh a bid um for the uh amphitheater project, there was an allowance included. [0:11:03, 0:11:08]: When they went and back and f and provided their best and final off offer. [0:11:09, 0:11:11]: It was not included. [0:11:12, 0:11:15]: And so when this was brought to the council a couple weeks ago. [0:11:15, 0:11:22]: It was with the understanding that that um allowance was still uh a part of [0:11:22, 0:11:25]: The overall contract by H. J. Russell. [0:11:25, 0:11:26]: And it was not. [0:11:27, 0:11:32]: And um what governs the amphitheatre construction. [0:11:33, 0:11:35]: Is the document, the ultimate contract. [0:11:36, 0:11:40]: Line that does not have that in the actual overall contract document. [0:11:41, 0:11:44]: The actual bid proposal is in them and shows an allowance. [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: But when they made their best and final offer, it did not contain that. [0:11:48, 0:11:53]: And that is the that is the one that we have to be governed by, which do not contain that all. [0:11:54, 0:11:55]: Okay. [0:11:55, 0:11:59]: Uh all right, now Xander that that solves that for you. Miss Barber, please. [0:11:59, 0:12:03]: Um okay, so that best and final offer. [0:12:04, 0:12:05]: Um contract. [0:12:06, 0:12:11]: I asked for a copy of that. I did not get that. The only copy I have is the original one. [0:12:12, 0:12:12]: Um [0:12:15, 0:12:16]: You're right, it's document. [0:12:17, 0:12:17]: Fine. [0:12:19, 0:12:20]: I'm deeply concerned. [0:12:22, 0:12:23]: Yeah. [0:12:23, 0:12:27]: about where we are. Um couple of things though. [0:12:29, 0:12:30]: This still has to be [0:12:30, 0:12:32]: Approved by the council or [0:12:33, 0:12:33]: Rejected. [0:12:34, 0:12:34]: That's correct. [0:12:35, 0:12:41]: I wanna know um what is our splash for balance. Is Mr. Wiggins able to give us [0:12:41, 0:12:42]: I am [0:12:45, 0:12:48]: What's the what was the question again? [0:12:48, 0:12:49]: It's just a vision. [0:12:50, 0:12:54]: balance of our spos for like right now. [0:12:56, 0:12:58]: Well we have left um [0:12:59, 0:13:00]: Overall [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: Um s I'm looking at it's like eleven point five million. [0:13:07, 0:13:08]: This is plus four, sir. [0:13:09, 0:13:10]: It's splash four. [0:13:10, 0:13:11]: That's what's left. [0:13:13, 0:13:13]: Okay. [0:13:14, 0:13:14]: Uh [0:13:14, 0:13:15]: I do that. [0:13:16, 0:13:18]: But that's spread out a month. Um [0:13:19, 0:13:24]: Numerous uh projects. Right, right. I yeah, I don't want to give that impression that that is what's available. [0:13:24, 0:13:25]: Right. [0:13:28, 0:13:29]: I couldn't hear Councilman Barber. [0:13:30, 0:13:32]: Oh it's available. [0:13:33, 0:13:33]: Right. [0:13:34, 0:13:40]: From my my latest recollection of SWAST for and what is called what is the uh Sun Trust account. [0:13:40, 0:13:45]: There was about um eight uh million dollars in that account. [0:13:46, 0:13:47]: Сикс мільян ович. [0:13:48, 0:13:53]: Or so about, yeah, just under six or about six, close to six million. [0:13:53, 0:13:56]: or so had been um accounted for, in other words, committed. [0:13:57, 0:13:58]: Uh, to projects. [0:13:59, 0:14:05]: And then you have the Reefs Creek Trail project, which is about 1.2 million. So then you get a balance of thereabouts and I'm [0:14:06, 0:14:16]: I hope it's okay. I'm talking round figures here, just you know, based on that. So then you have a balance left of about eight hundred a little probably a little over eight hundred plus thousand dollars in that. [0:14:19, 0:14:19]: There's [0:14:20, 0:14:29]: One more go right ahead, Ms. Barb. Go ahead. Um, so I know that the council previously approved [0:14:29, 0:14:30]: Teckin Woods. [0:14:31, 0:14:31]: As a [0:14:32, 0:14:34]: Professional service consultant. [0:14:34, 0:14:38]: I think it would be a good idea for us to include them on the ampathe. [0:14:39, 0:14:41]: We need another set of eyes here. [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: There's a lot going on. [0:14:43, 0:14:46]: And just so that we cover our bases. [0:14:46, 0:14:48]: Um they are experts. [0:14:48, 0:14:49]: Oh [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Okay. [0:14:51, 0:14:52]: That's all. [0:14:53, 0:14:54]: Uh Mr. Mayor. [0:14:54, 0:14:55]: Yeah, yes, yes, sir. [0:14:56, 0:14:59]: I would I would agree with that because [0:14:59, 0:15:04]: When you indicate that a mistake was made when it should not have been [0:15:04, 0:15:08]: I I have an issue with that. But let me ask this question here. [0:15:08, 0:15:20]: Um as you alluded to, Mr. Williams, a couple um a couple of months ago, we legislated uh seven hundred and sixty-some thousand dollars uh change order. [0:15:21, 0:15:27]: And I hear we are we're being asked today to legislate uh 794. [0:15:28, 0:15:30]: So now uh do we rescind? [0:15:31, 0:15:43]: first legislation because if you pull both of those up and which both of them if we approve this today, uh technically and legally, we have legislated uh 1.5 plus. [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: Oh uh can you can you respond to that? [0:15:47, 0:15:53]: Y yes, sir. The the the resolution that was adopted several meetings back [0:15:53, 0:16:13]: for the original change order was actually only for about a thirty six thousand dollar change order. And and that's that's why this this was it was part of the reason why it was a mistake because that uh was the the difference, if you will, between the total change order amount of um that you have before you today and what [0:16:13, 0:16:28]: was incorrectly understood to be available in the allowance. And so um so this resolution would rescind that um and then approve the overall seven hundred and ninety uh thousand dollar change [0:16:28, 0:16:29]: uh change order. [0:16:30, 0:16:32]: Okay. Um Mayor. [0:16:33, 0:16:40]: Yeah, one standby, Mr. Butt. Go ahead. Okay, I I I wanna, you know, sort of continue on this line. Um [0:16:41, 0:16:45]: We received the document, Mr. Knight, and what I detected was [0:16:46, 0:16:48]: Nineteen chain daughters. [0:16:49, 0:16:52]: And for me, that's not a unheard of. [0:16:53, 0:16:56]: А де стежо прогрес. [0:16:57, 0:16:57]: Um [0:16:59, 0:17:04]: And I know we cannot predict the future as far as uh unknown, unseen. [0:17:05, 0:17:07]: But I'm a little concerned, um [0:17:09, 0:17:11]: With this whole process of change orders. [0:17:12, 0:17:15]: Um listen now, can you sort of speak to [0:17:16, 0:17:21]: What happened? I mean, how how how could we come at this stage have nineteen change orders already? [0:17:22, 0:17:23]: Well this [0:17:23, 0:17:30]: I mentioned this the I think you're referring to the overall document that was provided um to the council. I think some by [0:17:30, 0:17:34]: Um a a link and some in paper form, I believe. [0:17:34, 0:17:45]: Which had a total of nineteen on there. Now several of them have not had any action on them at all or have a zero balance, so to speak. So when the contractor goes through [0:17:45, 0:17:53]: The um and and part of it was the the contractor's log. In other words, the contractor keeps a list of everything. [0:17:53, 0:18:02]: All of them may not amount to a change order or is something that we consider or may be pending. And many of them or some of them had zero line items on them. [0:18:02, 0:18:07]: And so the total nineteen is less than that in actuality, however. [0:18:07, 0:18:22]: When you s when the project begins to deal with unsuitable soils and deal with the pond loc relocations and so forth to handle the uh impervious runoff from parking and so forth, all of this was contained in there because essentially one thing [0:18:23, 0:18:26]: And oftentimes one thing begets another begets another. [0:18:26, 0:18:29]: In other words, the soils maybe get a change in the parking area. [0:18:29, 0:18:39]: And then the water line has to be removed, it has to be moved. And then something else has to be installed and it affects sanitary sewer and on and on and on. And so you then you get this package of things. [0:18:39, 0:18:46]: that that are a totality, if you will, of uh something that originally [0:18:46, 0:18:50]: um started this overall change order. Things have to be moved. [0:18:50, 0:18:53]: Um lines have to be uh placed. [0:18:54, 0:19:00]: Um ponds have to be uh uh redesigned and so forth. And so all of that that was contained. [0:19:00, 0:19:02]: in this package [0:19:02, 0:19:22]: um uh speak to everything that had to happen as a result of that. And it was deemed to be appropriate to bring it to you that way and to show you everything that had happened as a result of um the change order, which contains everything in for this particular change order. Lastly and I know Mr. Blount won't ask a question, but lastly. [0:19:22, 0:19:26]: Can you respond to uh Councilwoman Barber's [0:19:26, 0:19:30]: Suggestion of Kek and Wood because I I I would agree with that. Can you respond to that? [0:19:31, 0:19:35]: Yeah, sure, sure. I'll be glad to. Um Kegan Wood as you know was hired as um uh [0:19:35, 0:19:39]: having the project management role um with uh the city. [0:19:39, 0:19:41]: They have and I'm glad to report. [0:19:41, 0:19:48]: Um they were instrumental in developing uh a grant proposal uh for the city through ARC. [0:19:48, 0:20:00]: And we've been actually recommended for approval for that grant. We just found out in the last, I guess, ten days to two weeks. We've been recommended for approval. It's not come to uh the end because another body has to approve it, I believe, in August. [0:20:01, 0:20:05]: Or a hundred and fifty thousand dollar grant that would help us with some pedestrian [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: Fantastic. [0:20:06, 0:20:07]: Connectivity. [0:20:07, 0:20:11]: Um uh mainly within the downtown area. [0:20:11, 0:20:16]: And that's through ARC. And so they were instrument instrumental in that. They also were working with us. [0:20:16, 0:20:22]: uh in preparing um application and uh connecting us with the right people on the quiet zone. [0:20:23, 0:20:31]: uh proposal there for um Love Street. And obviously as a result of pandemic, we weren't able to have our public meeting that we had scheduled and so forth. [0:20:31, 0:20:35]: And so they they have been working with us in those areas. [0:20:36, 0:20:56]: um we uh they they could um uh uh be uh brought in to provide a role um with the amphitheater if if um absolutely necessary. Um we do have both TSW and uh well have HJ Russell is the contractor but TSW obviously [0:20:56, 0:21:00]: reviews a number of things in their role because they designed the amphitheater. [0:21:00, 0:21:12]: And obviously they know the ins and outs of it and have made uh recommendations, suggestions, uh even uh you know, some recent middles that they have uh required and so forth. [0:21:13, 0:21:15]: And so they've been operating in that role as well. [0:21:16, 0:21:17]: Thank you. [0:21:18, 0:21:22]: Is that it, Mayor Pro Tem? Thank you, Mayor. That is it. Uh Councilman Blount, please. [0:21:23, 0:21:24]: Mr. Blount, go ahead. [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Yeah, can everybody hear me? [0:21:26, 0:21:27]: Yeah, we got you. Go ahead. [0:21:29, 0:21:30]: Yeah. Uh my [0:21:30, 0:21:33]: And I'm listening to everybody's concern I and I [0:21:33, 0:21:34]: I agree with these concerns. [0:21:35, 0:21:40]: One of the concerns I have is that we got a major capital improvement project going on. [0:21:40, 0:21:44]: And one of the questions that has been on the table for me [0:21:44, 0:21:47]: And I think of my other colleagues is uh [0:21:47, 0:21:49]: We was been told all we need to do [0:21:50, 0:21:52]: Uh, all we're gonna do is be adding [0:21:53, 0:21:56]: an amendment to something that was already been approved. [0:21:56, 0:21:58]: throughout the contract. [0:21:58, 0:21:59]: with the seven hundred plus. [0:22:00, 0:22:05]: uh dollars, all we're gonna be doing is amending that and adding this amount. [0:22:05, 0:22:08]: And now we find ourselves having a special call meeting. [0:22:09, 0:22:16]: because that information is incorrect. And that question itself has been on the table for quite a w for quite a while. [0:22:17, 0:22:19]: Uh, we need to make sh you know, I'm [0:22:20, 0:22:20]: If you don't [0:22:20, 0:22:27]: understand where the problem is, then how do you understand where the corrective for the future? We got so much going on with this city that [0:22:27, 0:22:32]: We I I've never built an amphitheater before in my life and I keep saying that. [0:22:32, 0:22:35]: And I don't know if any of my colleagues been at the amphitheater before. [0:22:35, 0:22:42]: And so when we sat here and we started to ask staff and ask you all and ask legal and ask everybody for information. [0:22:43, 0:22:45]: We expect that information to be correct. [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: Because [0:22:47, 0:22:51]: We're elected to do a certain job, but you all are hired to do a certain job. [0:22:52, 0:22:57]: And to have a special call meeting on a question that has been on the table for so long. [0:22:57, 0:22:59]: That to me is unacceptable. [0:23:00, 0:23:06]: You know, I got other things to do with my day than take a three o'clock special call meeting on something that's already been on the table. [0:23:07, 0:23:12]: And these are the kind of things that we can't continue to go down this road and whatever we need to do to correct that. [0:23:12, 0:23:14]: Then we need to correct it because [0:23:15, 0:23:19]: Things has to be in order because we have other things that we're gonna be doing in this city. [0:23:20, 0:23:23]: And if we're gonna go back and keep s uh saying, Hey, we made a mistake. [0:23:24, 0:23:26]: We can make mistakes because we don't know. [0:23:26, 0:23:30]: We're paying you all staff and and turning everybody else to know. [0:23:30, 0:23:33]: And but this this is a question that's been on the table for so long. [0:23:34, 0:23:35]: That's my concern. [0:23:36, 0:23:43]: This isn't just something we asked and then we're coming right back. This question was on the table. I always ask questions prior to meetings. [0:23:44, 0:23:46]: And I asked this question. [0:23:46, 0:23:48]: Even in a meeting with you, Mr. Knighton. [0:23:49, 0:24:02]: uh uh about these very questions pertaining to this change order and I was setting my mind that we all was heading down the right path and all this was over. Now we're coming back saying a mistake was made and we need to do it this [0:24:02, 0:24:05]: Is it a point of not reading out the contract? [0:24:05, 0:24:07]: Understand the contract. [0:24:07, 0:24:11]: Oh, I'm just trying to figure out how to w you know, I don't want to get into that on this. [0:24:12, 0:24:14]: But we all gotta come together and start saying [0:24:14, 0:24:24]: How do we identify the road that we're going down and how do how do we make this thing work work more smoother with elected officials and staff and our city attorney? [0:24:26, 0:24:27]: Is Ms. Alexander? [0:24:28, 0:24:47]: Uh yes. I wanted to just uh go ahead and concur with uh Councilwoman Barber and Mayor Pro Tem Thomas about uh Kekinwood and their involvement. Uh the parties which are uh TSW and HJ Russell, they are interested parties. [0:24:47, 0:25:07]: Uh Kekin would be would be able to come in as an independent arbiter of what is going on and they would be a third party working on our behalf solely. Of course, we have a staff member who was working on our behalf, but we ended up in this particular situation of staff. So this extra set of eyes would be [0:25:07, 0:25:12]: uh deemed worthy because it does seem like we have find ourselves in this position repeatedly. [0:25:14, 0:25:27]: All right. Uh Mr Knighton, uh for you, sir. Uh in reference to it seems like we have a we haven't voted on it, but I guess uh in reference it seemed like general consensus to have Kekanwood join us, how would that how would that fit into that? Obviously they need to [0:25:27, 0:25:34]: They will have to be paid a certain percentage or certain amount. How's that how's that figure factor into all this? Well having them actually do. [0:25:35, 0:25:47]: Right. They they have um staff members who obviously uh you know have hourly rates and so forth that they provide. They do provide project management uh experience as well as a host of other things that they provide, a fairly large [0:25:47, 0:25:50]: Uh and well respected firm. Obviously we hired them. [0:25:51, 0:25:55]: And um they uh would have the ability [0:25:55, 0:25:57]: to um provide [0:25:57, 0:26:01]: If someone mentioned another pair of eyes or [0:26:01, 0:26:02]: uh Siren A [0:26:03, 0:26:04]: uh review [0:26:04, 0:26:06]: capacity, if you will. [0:26:06, 0:26:12]: Um to um provide that um again additional [0:26:12, 0:26:15]: uh set of eyes, if you will, for this particular project. [0:26:16, 0:26:19]: Would they need extra s would they need extra space in City Hall? They just meet with you. [0:26:20, 0:26:22]: How would they how would they go about doing this? [0:26:22, 0:26:31]: Uh no, likely likely not. They would they would be integrated into uh any um uh oversight or review processes that we would have. [0:26:31, 0:26:36]: Um obviously they have people who uh can come on site uh with and in and [0:26:37, 0:26:39]: Review things on site if needed. [0:26:39, 0:26:44]: But they can also review documents and so forth. So I don't think they would n necessarily have a place here in City Hall. [0:26:45, 0:26:47]: All right, Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [0:26:47, 0:26:53]: Thank you, uh Mayor. Question d have we taken into consideration the cost of this? Do we add cost? [0:26:54, 0:26:58]: Already. Um, I don't have any objection to curc keck on wood. [0:26:59, 0:27:00]: Just wanna know [0:27:00, 0:27:00]: You know [0:27:01, 0:27:03]: Here we are with a a change order and we were [0:27:04, 0:27:07]: From my understanding and this is what I thought, I thought that [0:27:07, 0:27:13]: Council had been uh spoken to in regards to what has taken place already. [0:27:13, 0:27:17]: Um, that there weren't any objections. That's why I made the motion that I made. [0:27:17, 0:27:22]: Um and that uh although we have a question in regards to [0:27:23, 0:27:26]: um the change order and it not being in the contract. [0:27:27, 0:27:30]: So there are two parts to my question. The first question is [0:27:31, 0:27:32]: Whether or not when we [0:27:33, 0:27:41]: Planned out for this project for the amphitheater, did that 700,000 of those conditions, even though it wasn't in the contract and we thought that they were. [0:27:41, 0:27:43]: Did we consider that? [0:27:43, 0:27:48]: as part of our estimate on what it's costing to build the amphitheater. That's number one. [0:27:48, 0:27:49]: And number two [0:27:50, 0:27:51]: Now that we're adding [0:27:51, 0:27:54]: or talking about adding keck and wood. [0:27:55, 0:28:01]: It would I think it would be irresponsible of us to vote on something that we don't know what actual dollar amount to yet. [0:28:01, 0:28:04]: What exactly would be the dollar amount? [0:28:04, 0:28:05]: Um [0:28:05, 0:28:07]: for a project manager of sort. [0:28:10, 0:28:26]: Ms. Knight, can you handle that? I I I couldn't tell you um immediately right offhand. And some of that may be fluid because uh depending on how many documents they would have to review, that kind of thing, over a period of time with the next six plus months or so of the project. So I couldn't tell you exactly. [0:28:27, 0:28:45]: Um you could put some type of cap on it. And then if they exceed a cap, then you come back and review it at some other point in time if they reach that cap. But I couldn't tell you exactly right now, exactly what that would be. I I probably have a scale of magnitude, but I couldn't tell you exactly because [0:28:45, 0:28:49]: А лот would be dependent upon you know how many hours they spend. [0:28:49, 0:28:54]: Um and what does occur in terms of the rest of the construction of the amphitheatre? [0:28:56, 0:29:02]: Okay, that if I'm if I understand right, that was the answer to the second part. You still had a first part. The first one was [0:29:02, 0:29:07]: I'm sorry. The first part of your question. [0:29:07, 0:29:10]: I think it r related to the amount um [0:29:10, 0:29:12]: Uh when you approved it originally. [0:29:13, 0:29:16]: Yeah. [0:29:16, 0:29:22]: When we did we take into consideration, even though it's not in the contract, the amount that's placed [0:29:22, 0:29:25]: that we're expecting for our amphitheater. [0:29:26, 0:29:34]: Is that seven hundred thousand dollars? Because we were told at the meeting that this was already in there. We do realize that it was a mistake. [0:29:34, 0:29:35]: However [0:29:36, 0:29:38]: Did we take that amount into consideration? [0:29:39, 0:29:41]: In general for the amphitheater. [0:29:44, 0:29:52]: Because if we don't from my will the project continue or will we be at a halt? What what's going on if this is not approved today? [0:29:53, 0:29:57]: The pro the essentially the project would be at a halt if it's not approved. [0:29:57, 0:29:58]: Um [0:29:59, 0:30:03]: Uh and meaning this has to happen in order for the project can to continue. [0:30:03, 0:30:07]: Um and that was I think stated previously at uh the previous meeting. [0:30:08, 0:30:11]: Um and obviously uh we're here related to [0:30:11, 0:30:14]: the item before you which is the fact that [0:30:14, 0:30:17]: The allowance was not contained in the original contract. [0:30:17, 0:30:23]: And and there there are two different questions in as part of that. The the first is [0:30:23, 0:30:26]: Did did you take it into consideration? [0:30:26, 0:30:28]: Initially am uh [0:30:28, 0:30:33]: The the the answer is basically yes. That the the the seven hundred thousand dollars [0:30:34, 0:30:36]: was removed from the original [0:30:37, 0:30:41]: bid because it was thought to be that those would be optional items. [0:30:42, 0:30:44]: You know, y you know, additional [0:30:44, 0:30:52]: you know, quality finishings and and things of that sort which would the y'all would have or the city would have total control over. [0:30:52, 0:30:57]: Um and am not aren't necessarily required for the the final [0:30:57, 0:31:01]: Amphitheater and so to the to from that perspective it was taken into account. [0:31:02, 0:31:05]: And the contract price was reduced because of that. [0:31:05, 0:31:06]: Um [0:31:06, 0:31:16]: And uh and also related to that because the the initial plans from the architect were of of sufficient quality that it was deemed that those things wouldn't necessarily [0:31:16, 0:31:20]: be, you know, critical for the project, those additional enhancements, if you will. [0:31:21, 0:31:22]: Now the [0:31:22, 0:31:31]: If had you left that in there, then the total contract price originally would have been seven hundred thousand dollars higher than what you approved. [0:31:32, 0:31:35]: And and you could have done that, but the original contract price would have been higher. [0:31:36, 0:31:56]: The the you know the second piece of that is this change order is for unknown conditions, things problems with the soil and and all the stuff that you've been briefed on, which are required to move the project forward. These are things that were not foreseen originally and and therefore, you know, you would have ha been dealing [0:31:56, 0:32:00]: dealing with these regardless whether or not the um [0:32:00, 0:32:01]: The the uh [0:32:02, 0:32:06]: of the allowance portion was in the original contract or not. These are just unknown [0:32:07, 0:32:08]: And and that [0:32:08, 0:32:08]: In [0:32:09, 0:32:13]: If you don't approve this, then yes, we as city manager said, we're at a standstill. [0:32:14, 0:32:18]: Oh stand by please. Miss Barber, you were next. [0:32:18, 0:32:19]: Ms. Barber? [0:32:20, 0:32:20]: How you? [0:32:21, 0:32:23]: You yield. All right. Customer Alexander, go ahead. [0:32:27, 0:32:47]: Sorry about that. Uh in in regards to the initial comments by uh Councilwoman Barber, uh in we have talked about having project managers, or you know, Henry County has their own splotch projects manager that independent that manages these projects. This is this is not just [0:32:47, 0:32:51]: just a good idea for the amphitheater, it's a good idea in general. [0:32:51, 0:33:01]: But when we move on to the Cultural Arts Center and we move on to the Youth Senior Center to have a consultant on the outside with independent eyes. [0:33:02, 0:33:22]: To watch over these projects. That's something that we probab should probably implement as an umbrella policy for all capital projects. So this is not the first time that we've actually broached this subject of having somebody come in. We just didn't move forward with acting on having an independent set of eyes. But uh in regards to this. [0:33:22, 0:33:42]: And our upcoming discussion, this would be a great idea for every single capital improvement project that that we would move forward with. I think at this particular point, I think we do want to move forward with um the approval because we don't want the project to uh come to uh [0:33:42, 0:33:50]: uh to a halt and we want uh the the project to move forward. So I would make a motion that we move forward with [0:33:50, 0:34:04]: the amount requested by staff with the addition of Kekin Wood as the uh in as a consultant to be brought on uh over this capital improvement project. I'll make that motion now. [0:34:06, 0:34:07]: Sir a second. [0:34:07, 0:34:08]: Second that. [0:34:08, 0:34:14]: It's not a second that. Uh further discussion, I think Mayor Pro Tem, you have something you need to say, sir? [0:34:14, 0:34:21]: Yes, I was really pretty much gonna say what our councilman Alexander said. Uh first let me just say um [0:34:21, 0:34:30]: You know, Kekka Wood is already on board, they've already been hired. But secondly, let me say uh it's incumbent upon us to ask questions. [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: To earn. [0:34:32, 0:34:35]: Uh and not to uh make these mistakes again. [0:34:36, 0:34:39]: I I think you cannot put a dollar mine on experience. [0:34:39, 0:34:43]: And and and it and it seems and it shows that [0:34:43, 0:34:49]: Uh it was a lack of experience somewhere uh for these mistakes to be made. [0:34:49, 0:35:03]: So I I I don't have a problem in in in drilling questions because we as a council, uh I'm about learning, I'm about information, and we all need to be about that. Uh and as you said, Mr. Alexander. [0:35:03, 0:35:23]: That will be projects for the rest of this year, that will be project next year, that will be projects in the future. And we need to learn and we need to make sure that you know the simple mistakes are not made. Now, change artists when you're dealing with unknowns, I I get that part. That's why I know that in an [0:35:23, 0:35:25]: original contract. [0:35:25, 0:35:37]: There are allowances, there are line items for contingencies and change orders. And those line items uh takes in all of those unknown. [0:35:37, 0:35:45]: So that is the problem that I have. Now I don't want to stop your project, but I just want to voice my concerns and I think you cannot put a dollar amount period. [0:35:46, 0:35:49]: Uh but I think we have to learn from this. We have to grow from this. [0:35:49, 0:35:54]: And I think uh kicking wood coming on, I I think it is a good move, but um [0:35:55, 0:36:00]: Hey, let's let's ask questions, let's learn. We can't go back or we can't make the same mistakes. [0:36:01, 0:36:10]: So uh I'm I'm in favor of uh of a proving uh I I still have a problem, but I don't want to stop the progress. It's it's just a hard lesson to learn. [0:36:10, 0:36:23]: Councilwoman Gann, go ahead, please. Thank you. Well, I'm glad we agreeing to move forward. I don't want to halt the project, but I do still have a concern. I am for a separate project manager. I've always talked about that. [0:36:24, 0:36:30]: That I think we all the council can agree. My only concern about this is [0:36:31, 0:36:40]: What that dollar amount is. And if if we don't have an estimate on how much their hourly costs are, um, Mayor Pro Tem Thomas stated that. [0:36:40, 0:36:44]: Kekin Wood has already been hired. If they have, then can someone give me [0:36:45, 0:36:48]: what their their price is, right? [0:36:48, 0:36:57]: I don't what I don't want to do is go on this blind. I w I need some kind of estimate of what they think it would cost to be the project manager over. [0:36:57, 0:37:07]: this project another separate set of eyes. I agree with Councilman Alexander on that. Um we do have other capital projects that we're gonna want um to pursue. [0:37:08, 0:37:16]: And I think that it that would be a great idea. It's just I don't want to be irresponsible and say, oh, let's just hire someone. [0:37:16, 0:37:18]: And we don't have a dollar amount. [0:37:18, 0:37:20]: It's not budgeted for, it's not a line item. [0:37:21, 0:37:22]: So if it is, let me know. [0:37:23, 0:37:24]: You've changed me. [0:37:24, 0:37:27]: Okay, Mr. Knight, I'm I'm assuming can you ask yes, sir? [0:37:29, 0:37:39]: I'm I'm without having a contract in front of me, I couldn't answer that specifically. What I would offer then is um if the council were so inclined [0:37:40, 0:37:56]: is um if their um review project management and so forth would not exceed a certain amount, if it does, then we would bring it back to the council for your review. For instance, if we put a dollar amount of say 15,000 or something like that. [0:37:56, 0:38:04]: Um and and I'm I'm I'm using that because I don't want it to be too high without having come without having all of the information in front of me right now. [0:38:04, 0:38:11]: And then without having come to come back to you if it's gonna be something uh much more than that, or we see that it's gonna be more much more than that. [0:38:12, 0:38:22]: That way, if you were so inclined, they could begin providing that particular service. And then as we progressed, we would see what that would ultimately use. [0:38:23, 0:38:30]: Okay, stand by one. Ms. Dan, go ahead. Just part of your question. Yes, this is part of my question. So do we have [0:38:33, 0:38:45]: Do we have an estimate on what the cost would be so that we can maybe put that in there as a con you know, as as a cap on the amount that we're willing to spend? That's my only concern. If it's a minimal amount. [0:38:45, 0:38:58]: If it's fifteen thousand or twenty y'all thinking it won't cost that much, then fine. I I don't know. I don't know how much it costs for a project. Maybe I think it would I think it would probably be more than that ultimately for the next six to eight months of the project. [0:38:58, 0:39:03]: What I'm saying is if we wanted to put a relatively a minimal amount, if you will, or a or a [0:39:04, 0:39:06]: moderate amount, if you would. [0:39:06, 0:39:16]: Um, you wouldn't be approving that carte blanche, but you would understand that we would be coming back to you and say, okay, now we understand exactly after a period of time what it's going to take. [0:39:17, 0:39:23]: Um that's that's the only thing that I would mention there. And what does Kek and Wood do for us now with the amphitheater? [0:39:25, 0:39:26]: Nothing at the moment. [0:39:26, 0:39:29]: So they're not hired for us right now. [0:39:30, 0:39:33]: for the amphitheater. I mean Mayor Pro Tem just stated that they were hired [0:39:34, 0:39:38]: with us. I know what project exactly are they doing so we can let the citizens know. [0:39:38, 0:39:46]: Right. I I mentioned the the grant proposal that they provided through ARC, which we've been recommended for approval for for a hundred and twenty five thousand hundred [0:39:46, 0:39:48]: Hundred and fifty thousand, I believe it is. [0:39:49, 0:39:52]: um dollars for um that bicycle pedestrian item. [0:39:52, 0:39:55]: And then the other one is um they were working with us on the um [0:39:55, 0:39:56]: Quiet zone. [0:39:57, 0:40:03]: And we've made some progress there. Of course, you know, things had to stop because of the pandemic and we couldn't have the public meeting that we were planning to have. [0:40:04, 0:40:09]: Okay. So they have done some things for us. They do have project management capability, there's no question about that. [0:40:10, 0:40:10]: Okay. [0:40:13, 0:40:24]: All right, so you don't have an idea just yet how much it would be. You don't say fifteen and twenty thousand. So if this passes this motion passes, you'll have to get back to us with some type of figure for us to accept, I would imagine. [0:40:25, 0:40:33]: Well well they would if you were to pass it in that regard, they would begin. We would we would we would uh have them come on board and begin. [0:40:33, 0:40:53]: And obviously they would be able to go ahead and move forward in that regard. And once they, you know, get closer to that particular figure or even before, we bring it back to you and say, okay, this what this is what it looks like in terms of the amount of activity and time hours spent on a project and uh let you know that um [0:40:53, 0:41:13]: You know, that's what it looks like at that point. I would again emphasize it it really is not possible to say what that's going to look like over a period of time because you don't know what you're going to encounter in terms of the overall construction and how much time they may have to spend or who they may have to bring in from their team. They've got a vast team of planners. [0:41:13, 0:41:13]: [2474.5, 2480.5]: engineers and that kind of thing, obviously, uh so but you don't know exactly what that would look like. [0:41:21, 0:41:23]: All right. Mr. Blount with with specificity. [0:41:24, 0:41:25]: Okay, thank you, Mr. Blount. [0:41:26, 0:41:31]: Yeah, I'm I'm in agreement with all this. Uh in in in terms in Keckenwood, uh [0:41:31, 0:41:34]: Mr. Knight, my concern is this is it's cost, but [0:41:34, 0:41:37]: But I think we I think some of that cost can be [0:41:37, 0:41:40]: levy, if you if you will. [0:41:40, 0:41:45]: I I don't want the city to start getting into a place where we're hiring a whole bunch of people to do the same job. [0:41:46, 0:41:50]: When we talk about a third party coming in taking the interest of the city. [0:41:50, 0:41:53]: Those things should be put in place for the fr from going forward. [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: Um, because we can't say [0:41:56, 0:41:59]: put these put Kekinwood in place, which I'm in agreement with. [0:42:00, 0:42:01]: When we've already got [0:42:01, 0:42:04]: people two or three entities are already there. [0:42:05, 0:42:13]: You know, we we gotta shorten that down to pe just putting people in place that's got the the a third party that's got the interest of the city to oversee these projects. [0:42:14, 0:42:17]: And then we're not looking at this wild array of costs. [0:42:17, 0:42:18]: We're looking at [0:42:19, 0:42:23]: bringing that down, but we got people in place looking out for the interests of the city. [0:42:23, 0:42:28]: You know, because I I you know, when we talk about project managers, we're looking at [0:42:28, 0:42:31]: I think T S W or somebody uh or other entities got [0:42:31, 0:42:33]: A part of that and [0:42:33, 0:42:35]: And we're talking about uh uh [0:42:36, 0:42:41]: Does Charles Abbott or or Pap is I don't know who all got project managers on this on this project. [0:42:41, 0:42:45]: I just don't wanna see a whole bunch of people getting paid for the same job when we need to have [0:42:46, 0:42:50]: Something set in place just to cover the city. People in place just to cover the city. [0:42:51, 0:42:56]: Mr. Alexander I would I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Mr. Go ahead, please sir. Go ahead and spot. [0:42:57, 0:43:06]: Yeah, I would I would in order to try to address that, uh if Kek and Will were brought in, they would have a different role, uh they would be placed in a different role and there wouldn't be a specific duplication. [0:43:06, 0:43:08]: as it comes to that specifically. [0:43:08, 0:43:13]: in the role that I would envision that um you have alluded to that they would play. [0:43:14, 0:43:22]: All right, Mr. Azzan, go ahead, please. Uh this is what I'm gonna say, and I'm gonna bring it right back to you, Mr. Knight. Listen, this is just plain and simple. [0:43:22, 0:43:23]: We are you. [0:43:24, 0:43:25]: As a top flight professional. [0:43:26, 0:43:33]: You have a twenty five thousand dollar discretion. We need you to make some decisions. Everything shouldn't have to come back to us. [0:43:34, 0:43:44]: So I'm gonna amend my motion and put on your spending limit, which the council has already granted you, up to twenty-five thousand dollars to um [0:43:44, 0:43:57]: for to bring on Kekinwood, obviously you will make the determination, but you already have that authority. I shouldn't even have to repeat that, but I'm going to add that since that is what has been required of us. [0:43:57, 0:44:13]: So uh you have the authority with which to act on any a matter up to twenty five thousand dollars. If you think fifteen thousand is where we need to start at, that's what we can start at. But you're placing a arbitrary number when we already giving you the authority to do twenty five thousand. [0:44:14, 0:44:24]: Right. I I I could appreciate that, Councilman Alexander. There are certain things, even though I have the uh discretion up to a certain amount, there's certain things that I would want the councils [0:44:24, 0:44:30]: um acknowledgement, if you will, uh given the sensitivity of the matter, including this particular matter. [0:44:31, 0:44:34]: Certainly. Um I would want the council's um uh [0:44:34, 0:44:53]: Acknowledgement, if you will. 25,000 is a reasonable figure, but uh under uh my authority, I think. Um, but uh obviously we would have to update you on how things progress. Um and it could be 25,000 handles it. I think it it uh that may be cutting a little bit short, but we'll have to see as uh things progress. [0:44:53, 0:45:05]: How about we make it not to exceed your spending authority on this particular issue? And we have to trust you as a professional that if it's fifteen thousand that's necessary, that's what you're going to do. [0:45:06, 0:45:13]: Okay, uh Councilman Alexander, how about this? How about we restate restate your motion, make sure the clerks got it right and we all understand, please. [0:45:14, 0:45:23]: Yes, I want to uh make this motion so that the city manager has the authority to act up to his spending limit to make this determination. [0:45:23, 0:45:35]: of course, uh of his spending limit of twenty five thousand dollars. But of course, if it only requires fifteen thousand, that's what he would do. He will make the in the decision in the best interest of the city. [0:45:36, 0:45:37]: A second. [0:45:37, 0:45:38]: That's right. [0:45:38, 0:45:42]: Okay, seconded by actually uh councilwoman Gantt, she spoke up first. [0:45:42, 0:45:47]: Uh uh clerk, I guess you understand that. You got that? I did, thank you. [0:45:47, 0:45:50]: And Mr. Williams, that is a proper motion. Is that correct? [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Was that a proper motion? [0:45:54, 0:45:57]: Yes, sir. Okay, good. Now, any further discussion on this motion? [0:45:57, 0:45:59]: Councilwoman uh Barber, please. [0:46:00, 0:46:03]: Um with the complexity of this project. [0:46:03, 0:46:06]: Um I want to hear directly. [0:46:07, 0:46:09]: From the contractors. [0:46:09, 0:46:13]: So when you all come to speak with us about the amphitheater. [0:46:13, 0:46:15]: I want to hear from HJ Russell. [0:46:16, 0:46:25]: I want to hear from Kegan Woods. I don't know what role Abbott plays in this, but I want to hear from the experts. [0:46:26, 0:46:34]: So make that um be a part of um the expectations as we bring technicalities on board with you. [0:46:36, 0:46:43]: Okay. Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir. Mayor Potem. Uh I'm I'm gonna agree with that, but I will say that um [0:46:43, 0:46:51]: I I think no well, Abbott is not the engineer record number one. Uh so they shouldn't have, you know, that involvement in this. [0:46:51, 0:46:52]: Um [0:46:53, 0:46:54]: I do believe that [0:46:55, 0:47:02]: Fifteen to twenty-five is is too low. I know that's the motion and I know it's been stuck but that's on on the table. [0:47:02, 0:47:03]: Um [0:47:03, 0:47:22]: probably gonna take about fifty thousand for this over the next month until it's completed. Uh but I do agree with Mr. Knighton and his assumption that uh he will bring things back to us just to keep us informed. I I do like that Mr. Knighton. I don't have a problem with you coming back so [0:47:23, 0:47:34]: If we go over that twenty-five thousand, I would appreciate it, you know, coming back and just say, well, okay, it's over twenty-five thousand. Right. I'll need an additional twenty-five thousand or happy. [0:47:34, 0:47:39]: Uh but I I just think that that's pretty low uh for the completion of this project. [0:47:40, 0:47:43]: Right. Councilwoman Gantt, did you have something else you need to say, ma'am? [0:47:44, 0:48:00]: No, not not at this time. Um Councilman Alexander actually made the statement, which is my my biggest concern was we had we needed a cap. I don't know when this council would vote on something and not actually have a dollar amount or figure. [0:48:00, 0:48:14]: Um, I think that would be irresponsible for me to do what's but the best interest of the citizens in this city is to just say, hey, we're gonna hire some people and we don't know how much it's gonna cost yet. Let's all vote for it. [0:48:14, 0:48:16]: When do we do that? [0:48:16, 0:48:36]: Okay. When would we ever do that? That's irrespon irresponsible. And so we cannot, we do have to have a dollar amount. And now that Councilman Alexander gave that dollar amount and that cap, if we have to amend it later on, so be it. But we need to be responsible. [0:48:36, 0:48:37]: Can't just go in blind. [0:48:38, 0:48:39]: And I'm okay with that. [0:48:39, 0:48:40]: Right. [0:48:40, 0:48:53]: Are there any further comments? And if not, oh yes, Councilwoman Barber, please. I just want to make sure that Kekin Woods, have we agreed that Kekin Woods, a representative from HJ Russell? [0:48:54, 0:48:56]: We'll be ending or [0:48:56, 0:48:59]: Maybe with these meetings, I can speak to this. [0:49:00, 0:49:05]: So I don't I don't know if we need to vote on that, but I've imagined uh Mr. Night hears you. [0:49:05, 0:49:08]: You should be able to make that happen, I would imagine. Ms. Knighton? [0:49:12, 0:49:12]: Yes. [0:49:13, 0:49:14]: Okay. [0:49:14, 0:49:15]: All right. [0:49:15, 0:49:19]: If that's the if that's the case, no other questions, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: Uh all favor motion. All right. Unanimous. [0:49:22, 0:49:23]: Good deal. [0:49:23, 0:49:31]: Appreciate it. Okay, now we'll move on. Uh council consideration to approve T Splash's proposed project list. Mr. Knighton, please. Um [0:49:32, 0:49:32]: I'm sorry. [0:49:33, 0:49:37]: Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. That vote was for [0:49:37, 0:49:40]: taking wood, but you still don't have [0:49:40, 0:49:54]: Although you know what that's why you're the clerk that's why you're the clerk, man. Okay. I I interpreted uh I did too. I interpreted councilman's motion as to include the overall amount [0:49:54, 0:50:00]: With the condition that Tekken would be involved as project manager with a cap not to exceed twenty five thousand. [0:50:00, 0:50:03]: Yes. Absolutely. Yes. [0:50:05, 0:50:09]: Is that the way that can we do that again then please? Because that's not the way that it [0:50:10, 0:50:16]: was present. So you didn't get all that, I guess. All right. [0:50:16, 0:50:17]: We can try this again. [0:50:18, 0:50:24]: Ms. Let me have my seat for a good. I had to grab my pan. Mr. Knight. [0:50:25, 0:50:31]: Uh I make the motion to accept the mount as well. Mr Snight, what's on your mind, sir? [0:50:32, 0:50:46]: I just wanted to I I understand the uh sentiments of the council. I just wanna make sure that and I don't think there's anything in the Ket and Wood agreement that would prohibit this at all. I just wanted to make sure that if there is any modification needed in accordance with what you are [0:50:46, 0:50:48]: Um approving. [0:50:49, 0:50:52]: that that can be made with the agreement with Ket and Lewis. [0:50:53, 0:50:53]: Okay. [0:50:54, 0:50:54]: All right. [0:50:55, 0:50:57]: Mr. Alexander, let's try this again. Go write it, please. [0:50:57, 0:51:02]: I want to make this motion to accept the amount as recommended by staff. [0:51:03, 0:51:15]: uh to move the amphitheater project forward with a twenty-five dollar twenty-five thousand dollar spending limit uh to add kicking wood to the project to be brought back to us. [0:51:16, 0:51:29]: If it t should exceed that. Also adding the reporting requirements that uh H J Russell and Kekin Wood would be coming back and that will be the reporting requirements added to this uh motion. [0:51:30, 0:51:31]: Right zero second. [0:51:32, 0:51:33]: Got it. [0:51:33, 0:51:41]: Miss Barber, you second. You second is Miss Barber. Okay. Now any more further discussion? If not, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:51:42, 0:51:45]: All right, unanimous. Okay. [0:51:45, 0:51:48]: Is it? Clark, everybody everybody voted for it. [0:51:50, 0:51:50]: Yes. [0:51:51, 0:51:55]: What Vanessa everybody is it was a go, every everybody is unanimous. [0:51:55, 0:52:03]: Okay, good. Thank you. You're welcome. Next thing. Council consideration of T Splash proposed project list. Mr. Knighton, please. [0:52:06, 0:52:26]: Yes, uh Mayor and Council, thank you. I'll try to run through this uh based on uh most recent information that we received around 12 noon, one o'clock. Um I had uh also provided you with uh the draft uh Henry County project list, uh probably [0:52:26, 0:52:32]: About close to one o'clock uh this afternoon, you may or may not have had a chance to to see it. As soon as I got it, I sent it to you. [0:52:32, 0:52:52]: But I wanted to mention, obviously, as we discussed at the last meeting, Henry County is proposing a transportation splost, which could raise an estimated$204 million for road projects, sidewalks, trails, resurfacing, et cetera. [0:52:52, 0:52:55]: There is a special call meeting uh tomorrow. [0:52:55, 0:53:04]: Uh at six o'clock p.m. uh at Henry County government offices. Uh as a matter of protocol for this meeting, of course, all of the cities. [0:53:04, 0:53:08]: have been invited uh to attend as well as the county. [0:53:08, 0:53:11]: You don't necessarily have to have a quorum there. [0:53:12, 0:53:16]: Uh there will be a discussion and it will basically be uh a b a discussion of [0:53:17, 0:53:21]: uh potential project lists uh provided by the county and also [0:53:22, 0:53:25]: uh the cities and a potential discussion of [0:53:26, 0:53:27]: uh intergovernmental agreements. [0:53:28, 0:53:42]: Uh you will not uh uh be at this meeting, you're not intended to make any speci any definite decisions, but the discussions have to be had on potential projects and also uh a potential uh [0:53:43, 0:53:45]: uh intergovernmental agreement. [0:53:45, 0:53:50]: You would if you are so inclined and the other cities are so inclined. [0:53:50, 0:53:54]: Would have to approve an I G by July thirty first. [0:53:55, 0:54:01]: Um and then uh if that were to all come to fruition, Henry County then would [0:54:02, 0:54:02]: Um [0:54:03, 0:54:07]: have a meeting, approve that and it has to go uh to the electors. [0:54:08, 0:54:11]: uh the elections office to be placed on the ballot uh for november. [0:54:12, 0:54:17]: Again, the overall proposed total is two hundred and four million dollars. As a matter of protocol for that meeting tomorrow. [0:54:17, 0:54:23]: Uh everyone will be socially distanced. They've asked how many people from their respective cities plan to attend. [0:54:23, 0:54:27]: Everyone will be socially distanced, expected to wear masks. [0:54:27, 0:54:32]: Um uh my understanding is that the meeting will be televised as well. [0:54:32, 0:54:34]: uh for the general public. [0:54:35, 0:54:39]: Um and that uh everyone can assemble as early as [0:54:39, 0:54:40]: Uh five thirty. [0:54:41, 0:54:46]: Uh in terms of uh the proposed project list. [0:54:46, 0:54:51]: Um that I provided to you and I want to be able to see if we can pull that up on the screen. [0:54:57, 0:54:58]: Yes, um [0:55:05, 0:55:11]: That's that's actually let's well since we've got it up, let's do this. Let's look at this. This actually is the Henry County project list. [0:55:12, 0:55:16]: um for your information because you may not have had a chance to to go um and look at it. [0:55:17, 0:55:23]: And Eugene, if you can hear me, can you go down just a little bit more on that project list? This is Henry County's, again, the draft project list. [0:55:24, 0:55:25]: For Henry County. [0:55:25, 0:55:41]: All right. Um you can see uh most notably the Rock Quarry Road widening, thirty-two million dollars. Uh you've got uh State Road 81 widening at$23 million, Jonesboro Road widening from I-75 to North Mount Caramel at 35 million. [0:55:42, 0:55:47]: And those three projects make up the bulk of what you're looking at from Henry County's perspective. [0:55:47, 0:55:51]: Now, if you go down further, obviously there are a number of resurfacing projects, I believe. [0:55:52, 0:55:54]: They likely divided those up by [0:55:54, 0:55:59]: By districts and actually on the entire spreadsheet that I provided to you. [0:55:59, 0:56:07]: Um, you can go in and click on those and see what those resurfacing projects are per district. But as you can see, there are three. [0:56:07, 0:56:15]: basically three projects that uh are um it's significant in terms of um they uh [0:56:16, 0:56:17]: connectivity and also [0:56:17, 0:56:25]: In terms of the amount of that$204 million, and it adds up to$143 million. [0:56:25, 0:56:30]: For Henry County share, and they took that off of seventy percent. [0:56:30, 0:56:31]: Okay. [0:56:31, 0:56:35]: Took that off of seventy percent of that total of two hundred and four. [0:56:35, 0:56:37]: Million dollars. [0:56:37, 0:56:43]: Um so um anyway, uh you can take a look at that and um obviously see [0:56:43, 0:56:46]: What um what is there for Henry Camp? [0:56:46, 0:56:50]: And again, I I do want to couch this by saying this as well. [0:56:50, 0:56:51]: The [0:56:51, 0:56:54]: Uh, this is a staff recommendation to Henry Downey. [0:56:55, 0:57:01]: uh a staff recommendation uh from henry county to its board of commissioners. [0:57:01, 0:57:09]: They will need to review this tomorrow. They may make some decisions tomorrow. I understand they've got a meeting tomorrow to discuss this. So there may be some changes to this. [0:57:09, 0:57:19]: from Henry County, but this was was uh provided to us uh this afternoon um from the staff recommendation their staff recommendation and I wanted to make sure you received it. [0:57:20, 0:57:22]: Mr. Knight in reference to um [0:57:23, 0:57:34]: to the resurfacing portion of this. And and of course in the city of Stockbridge, both uh Commissioner Two, Four and Five, that's Clemens uh Thomas and and uh [0:57:35, 0:57:37]: homes have um [0:57:37, 0:57:53]: parts of Stockbridge and if you look at uh uh uh district five for resurfacing it's 146 the other two districts have six six million now and I'm thinking I'm sorry I just pulled up that district five so you can take a look at [0:57:53, 0:57:54]: Okay. [0:57:55, 0:58:03]: You see that? Everybody see that? Yeah, I see. So there's only one that I see. Well, you got East Atlanta, O'Connor, okay. [0:58:04, 0:58:17]: All right. So really Walt Stevens is on there, but there's probably some other road. There are some other roads, of course, in our and district five, there's city primary city roads that that we may have to negotiate for. But okay. That's what I was just kind of nailed down on. [0:58:17, 0:58:21]: And of course whatever district four has or district two has in reference to those roads as well. [0:58:22, 0:58:26]: There's the district four list, Mayor Ford. I brought brought up the district four list. [0:58:26, 0:58:27]: Good. [0:58:29, 0:58:31]: Okay, it's East Hay Hudson Bridge, okay. [0:58:36, 0:58:37]: All right. [0:58:38, 0:58:40]: And it's a good list. [0:58:40, 0:58:41]: I'm sorry. [0:58:41, 0:58:45]: I didn't see Flippin' Road on District Five's list. [0:58:45, 0:58:46]: No, you didn't. [0:58:47, 0:58:49]: No, you no, it's not on there. [0:58:50, 0:58:50]: Um [0:58:51, 0:58:52]: Mr. Knighton. [0:58:53, 0:58:53]: Yes, sir. [0:58:54, 0:58:59]: Well I I know, uh Mr. Alexander, you look familiar with this. You know those uh homeowners own [0:59:00, 0:59:02]: I believe that's banks. [0:59:02, 0:59:04]: Well um Summer Hill. [0:59:05, 0:59:07]: I I didn't see the thing in reference to [0:59:08, 0:59:10]: Uh what they have been asking for. [0:59:10, 0:59:16]: The sidewalks, yeah. That's district four. Which is you're looking at district four's uh proposed list. [0:59:17, 0:59:18]: Yeah, this you're in front of me. [0:59:20, 0:59:25]: Yeah, we'll need to bring that up with Commissioner Thomas to about that because those homeowners have been [0:59:25, 0:59:28]: out front wanting uh sidewalks over there. [0:59:29, 0:59:29]: Mr. Rick. [0:59:30, 0:59:36]: Yeah, I think someone asked for district two. District two proposed list is uh in front of you as well. [0:59:41, 0:59:44]: So it seems as though that for us that might be chamber road. [0:59:45, 0:59:47]: Part no, uh maybe that's now that's we've done, isn't it? [0:59:48, 0:59:55]: Well it's just right outside the Jodico project. So Chambers Road. It's like right there where [0:59:55, 0:59:59]: The uh Jodico project would end going to Jonesboro Road. Yeah. [1:00:00, 1:00:03]: Yeah, Mount Olive Church ready now somewhere. Right, right. [1:00:05, 1:00:10]: In in regards to Walt Stevens, we were already listed in the twenty ten [1:00:11, 1:00:15]: S D S agreement as well as Splash List. What [1:00:16, 1:00:26]: So is this in addition to that? Because money was supposedly set aside, I wanna say, at that point in time it it's not there anymore? I don't see it. [1:00:26, 1:00:34]: Yeah, it's it's not on here and I have not seen it in any I thought I saw it. Go back to the district five, right? [1:00:34, 1:00:37]: Yeah. Well Stevens is on there. [1:00:37, 1:00:46]: Well, Stevens is on there, but there's a list that w there's projects that were already on in the S V S in twenty ten, Mr. Knight, and I believe I sent you an email. [1:00:47, 1:00:49]: Mm-hmm. Um in regards to that list. [1:00:49, 1:01:00]: And it had listed all the spliced four projects that had already been done. And out of that splice four projects, it also listed those things that had not been done. [1:01:00, 1:01:12]: yet um that had money was set aside for on from the counties part that was supposed to go towards these road projects and have not. So my question is [1:01:13, 1:01:22]: Uh is it gonna be m this in addition to those projects that have not yet been completed? How does the money been shifted or or where are we with that? Because [1:01:23, 1:01:31]: They were are these roads were already listed in the past and money was already allocated for things prior to T squats even coming up. [1:01:32, 1:01:41]: And I think that is a and obviously we're just looking at this list, you know, got it around one o'clock, so remember hadn't had a chance to go through it, but I think that's a legitimate question to ask of the county. [1:01:45, 1:01:45]: Okay. [1:01:46, 1:01:47]: We'll make sure we do that tomorrow. [1:01:50, 1:01:53]: Um, let me see if I can find it real quick for y'all. [1:01:56, 1:01:57]: Yeah, go ahead, Mr. Alexander. [1:01:57, 1:02:01]: Is Mr. Knighton done with his presentation? I I I don't know, sir, are you um [1:02:01, 1:02:04]: Yes, I'm thinking he's willing to handle any questions you may have for him. [1:02:05, 1:02:07]: Yes, uh this is what I will [1:02:07, 1:02:10]: Uh as far as the public is concerned. [1:02:10, 1:02:30]: We s we we you know, we use jargon like T splast and we expect people to understand what is the T S PLOS. People first of all, people need to know the T Spl what is it? It's a transportation splost. This money has to be spent on transportation. I'm gonna uh couch it how I want you to make uh [1:02:30, 1:02:33]: A presentation to my question. Give me just one second. [1:02:33, 1:02:37]: I would like for you to talk about the overall [1:02:37, 1:02:40]: City comprehensive plan. [1:02:41, 1:02:42]: Ту с то старт ви. [1:02:43, 1:02:49]: as it relates to how T sploss could complement it. [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: And the regular SPLOSS program. So people understand how the T SPLOS fits in with the overall city comprehensive plan and the regular SPLOS. This is an addition to proposition, not in place of those. So people understand. Well, I look at [1:03:09, 1:03:29]: This list, I don't see Rock Quarry Road on there. Okay, we got Rock Quarry Road already covered. I don't see Highway 42 on there. Well, guess what? We got Highway 42 already covered. G Dots already got that covered. So talk about in totality how what an excellent job this entire council. [1:03:29, 1:03:49]: City has done on transportation because all of these projects, people don't really know that Highway 42 is gonna be widened from McDonald's to Stockbridge. It's gonna be widened from Walmart of North Henry Boulevard all the way to 675. Rock Quarry Road is gonna be widened, right? People need to understand. [1:03:49, 1:03:57]: We've got these taken care of, and they need to understand that this T-SPLOST is in addition to and allows us to be able to. [1:03:57, 1:03:58]: Oh [1:03:58, 1:04:10]: uh complete these sidewalks and infrastructure programs to enhance the city in every single way. So if you can kind of talk about that and break it down in layman's terms, that would be great. [1:04:12, 1:04:13]: Right? [1:04:13, 1:04:17]: Um for the general public, there are generally uh different [1:04:17, 1:04:37]: um planning processes or documents that exist. One is a comprehensive plan which basically deals with land use, commercial areas, industrial areas, residential areas, mixed use development areas, and so forth. And you try to put those pieces of the post puzzle together in order for a city to [1:04:37, 1:04:41]: Grow or expand in a fashion that is sustainable. [1:04:41, 1:04:49]: and uh provides protection for potential residential areas and provides um commercial corridors, things of that nature. [1:04:50, 1:05:03]: Um and also we have a couple of overlay districts, which speaks to design, which the council has approved because you want a certain look and quality in the city of Stockbridge. Then you have what's called a comprehensive transportation plan. [1:05:03, 1:05:05]: This was something that was most recently done. [1:05:06, 1:05:07]: uh via the um [1:05:08, 1:05:28]: Uh, Henry County through the vetting process, uh, through input from citizens, most recently in 2016. There are certain projects out of that comprehensive transportation plan that took a look at the entire network of transportation throughout Henry County, certain projects from that plan that will undoubtedly be on this proposed transportation. [1:05:28, 1:05:37]: Transportation SPLOSS proposal. And again, a T-SPLOS is a transportation special purpose local option sales tax. [1:05:37, 1:05:57]: It's one cent on the dollar when you buy goods and services and so forth. The traditional SPLOST is a special purpose local option sales tax. You can use those funds for capital projects, for instance. You know, parks, for instance. You can use them on civic projects, a cultural arts. [1:05:57, 1:06:17]: Center or an amphitheater. You can use those to build a public works facility. That's more of your traditional SPLOST. The transportation spLost obviously is roads, trails, paths, resurfacing, enhancing the overall transportation and connectivity network. All of this in turn [1:06:17, 1:06:18]: Terms of uh [1:06:18, 1:06:22]: Land use and transportation should all fit together. [1:06:23, 1:06:24]: In a nice puzzle. [1:06:24, 1:06:28]: And provide the sustainability and the quality of life ultimately. [1:06:28, 1:06:32]: That people would want to see uh in any community. [1:06:33, 1:06:52]: Well yes, I certainly appreciate that. And and again, uh for the purpose of the public so you understand. In the regular splots, we have the council, this fine council and mayor, sit down and put together a plan so that we could bring you uh in our proposed capital projects list. [1:06:52, 1:06:55]: Uh you know, the amphitheater. [1:06:55, 1:07:15]: The Cultural Arts Center and the proposed Youth and Senior Center. Those programs it should be covered uh through the regular SPLOSS uh program. And then in addition to that, as Mr. Knighton said, we reached out for grants. We're in the process of getting a grant. Kicking wood helped out with the uh [1:07:15, 1:07:34]: Transportation grant that will hopefully bring us some funding for multi-use trails. Now the city in 2016 passed a master trail plan covering the entire city in its in total in its totality. So as as a pip as the puzzle fits together, the public should understand. [1:07:35, 1:07:55]: That the amphitheater will be completed, the cultural arts center will be completed, the youth senior center or recreation center will be created. This is a part of the total comprehensive plan. But we need connectivity between all of these particular entities. It is with great pleasure that I say we're [1:07:55, 1:08:15]: We're gonna complete the Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. Uh, and we're gonna complete a so many projects on this proposed project list over in that Tide Street area, sidewalks on Tide Street. We're gonna have sidewalks on Wilson Avenue, Curb and Gutter, all of the above, complementing what we're [1:08:15, 1:08:35]: all doing. This council has done a great job and the city has done a great job with this project list. The one the couple of projects that I would like for us to see us consider uh is the East Atlanta Road Extension, which is a major road project which will take uh Rock Quarry Road and connect it directly [1:08:35, 1:08:55]: To East Atlanta Road. It will provide great uh egress to the city uh from both sides of the amphitheater and connecting seamlessly uh the Fairview area down to the P. Mont Henry uh area as well. And I know subsequent uh in my area which I dwell, uh [1:08:54, 1:08:58]: Uh we had the campground road extension that was completed. [1:08:58, 1:09:18]: Now, many assistant citizens put together a petition of one thousand plus people that signed it that said and it did they wanted sidewalks along this roadway. This needs to be a city and county joint project. The city needs to set aside some monies uh to complete those sidewalks. We're not just talking [1:09:18, 1:09:38]: About campground in Winslow at Eagles Landing. We're talking about campground in the new subdivision, which is Winding Creek and all the what all of Stockbridge City limits because campground runs through a large portion of the Stockbridge City limits. Henry County is taking care of all of campground. We're not able to take we're [1:09:38, 1:09:58]: We need to step up. They I gotta say, we were talking about just last week, what is Henry County doing? Uh the side of Jodeco, Commissioner Thomas, kudos to her. Have you ever been down Jodoko Road? They're planting trees in the middle of Jodeco Road with shrubbery. It's beautiful. The beautification is happening. [1:09:58, 1:10:12]: step up our game to meet that on the campground part of that because they're doing it right now and they're cutting our parts uh as well on a weekly basis. They cut the part that's in the city limits all of Campground Road extension. [1:10:13, 1:10:14]: All right, thank you. [1:10:15, 1:10:23]: Um any other comments from Mr. Knighton in reference to uh the list he just proposed or show tentative list. [1:10:26, 1:10:38]: other comments. So obviously we'll be talking about this tomorrow uh with the county and all the other four cities. And uh it starts at six o'clock so I would hope that everybody arrives probably somewhere around five thirty if possible. [1:10:38, 1:10:50]: This aspect. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, sir. Uh I was just gonna ask Mr. Night, do we need a motion to approve of the this list? It seemed like it's already been done, but I'm just asking, do we need any kind of [1:10:50, 1:10:52]: uh legislation on this list. [1:10:56, 1:11:08]: You're you're muted, Ms. Knight. You're muted. I I would think it's a it's a it's a tent of proposed list. It's a proposed list. I we're not going to I will tell you what I what Ms. Knight mentioned and what I've also heard earlier today as well as that this is a discussion. [1:11:09, 1:11:13]: Uh uh the chances we're not gonna be making final decisions tomorrow anyway. We're gonna discuss everything. [1:11:14, 1:11:16]: And so we'll have we'll have the time to go back and [1:11:16, 1:11:31]: besides discuss this, go back among ourselves after we have this meeting tomorrow to finalize our final proposal on this. But that was primarily intent. It's discussion, not re really we're gonna make any final decision tomorrow. Unless of course the council decides, hey, this is what this is our final decision, period. [1:11:31, 1:11:48]: But uh I'll let Mr. Knighton answer the question so you can ask him directly. I'm okay with that. Okay. I I I do and I would mention to the council as um the respective cities and the county provide what would be their project list, this would be a list that I would be providing. [1:11:49, 1:11:53]: as a potential project list for uh the city of Stockbridge. [1:11:53, 1:12:00]: Um and so I I do want to make sure that you are aware of that. That doesn't necessarily necessarily mean that it's the final list. [1:12:01, 1:12:06]: But this is a list that we believe uh contains viable projects uh for the city. [1:12:07, 1:12:10]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:12:10, 1:12:14]: I already know about flipping road then. Are you able to add flipping road on there or [1:12:15, 1:12:16]: We're just gonna [1:12:16, 1:12:18]: Leave that to the county. [1:12:18, 1:12:27]: How are we handling that? Flipping road, as I remember, is a county road. And when I say county road, a county road in terms of county responsibility for maintenance per the current. [1:12:28, 1:12:30]: service delivery strategy. [1:12:30, 1:12:38]: Um and but you go in and out. Yeah, it does. It does, just like you know, as I mentioned, Walt or um [1:12:39, 1:12:40]: Wall Stevens and Rock Bory. [1:12:41, 1:12:48]: Uh, to those particular items. I mean, for something like Flippin' Road, and I'm assuming you're talking about sidewalks for Flippin' Road. [1:12:49, 1:12:49]: Councilwoman. [1:12:50, 1:13:00]: Yes. Council sidewalks with Logan Road? I think I think that is the kind of project that could lend itself to joint support from the county and the city. [1:13:01, 1:13:04]: And I think that, you know, it should be couched that way. [1:13:04, 1:13:11]: Um obviously uh citizens are not concerned about jurisdictional lines when they're travel trying to travel from point A to point B. [1:13:12, 1:13:14]: And because it is multi jurisdictional [1:13:14, 1:13:20]: Um it could lend itself to uh some cost sharing between Henry County and the city of Stockwood. [1:13:20, 1:13:25]: And if if that is what you would like to see or propose, then we certainly can do that. [1:13:25, 1:13:26]: I would. [1:13:27, 1:13:29]: Okay. Uh Mr. Aznan, go ahead now. [1:13:29, 1:13:45]: Yeah, the the uh in in addition, I know I took a lot of time. I'm sorry, I apologize. But in terms of um what we're doing, I think the one weakness in this list is the East Atlanta Road extension. Because when p you're talking about transportation project. [1:13:45, 1:13:50]: I'm one hundred percent on board with every trail and sidewalk that's on there. [1:13:50, 1:13:54]: But people are gonna look at it and say, Where's the road project? [1:13:55, 1:13:58]: Where's the road project in the transportation splash? [1:13:59, 1:14:03]: That's where the East Atlanta Road Extension comes in. It's the major road project. [1:14:03, 1:14:05]: through downtown. [1:14:05, 1:14:25]: And again, I s you know the list is very it's tentative. It could change. So I think we should add other, I think we should add the other projects to the list. We may not um it's just like the comprehensive plan. You want to put potential projects on there because if the county sees their project, they might be able [1:14:25, 1:14:41]: able to act on a project uh in regards to it as well. They already have four million dollars that they owe us in regards to how Councilwoman Gantt mentioned they have four million dollars that they owe us on East Atlanta Road extension that was approved by voters on Splash 4. [1:14:41, 1:14:43]: They have two million dollars. [1:14:44, 1:14:47]: For flipping road as you exit east. [1:14:47, 1:14:48]: As you exit, um [1:14:49, 1:14:52]: Reeves Creek Trail on the flippin' road side, that's in the county. [1:14:53, 1:14:55]: That portion from of [1:14:55, 1:14:57]: Flipping the the Reese Creek Trail. [1:14:57, 1:15:16]: to Walt Stevens Road, all of that is 100% Henry County. Our city limits, if you go from uh North Henry Boulevard right to before right to right after uh Reeves Creek Trail, all of that goes into the county. If you recall, we actually had the annex [1:15:16, 1:15:36]: The parking lot of Reed's Creek Trail into the city limits because previously it was not in the city limits. So the city limits was extended down to the trail, and the trailhead of Flippin' Road was actually annexed into the city. So from Reed's Creek Trail all the way to Flippin', all the way to Walt Stevens Road, none of that is in the city. [1:15:36, 1:15:52]: city limits. But I would say that Henry County owes those citizens in that area, including Stockbridge Tuck tax players, two million dollars because they voted and approved for two million dollars in sidewalks slash trails to be put on uh flipping road there. [1:15:55, 1:16:01]: There's a projected list. Oh, go ahead, Mr. Knight. I guess you've put that up so everybody can see. You can you can see that. I'm assuming everybody can see that. [1:16:02, 1:16:03]: List. [1:16:03, 1:16:09]: Yes. Okay, good. All right. It's small. Is it yes? All right, let's see what we can do. [1:16:13, 1:16:14]: But yeah. [1:16:15, 1:16:16]: Does it better? [1:16:16, 1:16:18]: Yeah. That's better. Okay. [1:16:22, 1:16:29]: Yeah, as in and as I think uh Councilman Alexander alluded to, there are a number of items on here related to trails and and [1:16:30, 1:16:39]: And all of those were a part of the um uh trail plan that was adopted in twenty seventeen. So we tried to take those items that had already been [1:16:39, 1:16:48]: uh vetted via citizen review and obviously adopted by uh the city council. There were a couple of other items that we did uh provide on here as well. [1:16:49, 1:16:55]: Um uh toward the to um which related to um areas that did not currently have [1:16:55, 1:16:59]: sidewalks and curtain gutter and so forth. [1:16:59, 1:17:02]: Uh you can see that at the the top of the list, the first item [1:17:02, 1:17:10]: And then also Davison Parkway areas that frequently have a lot of pedestrian travel to have resurfacing on those roads and sidewalks. [1:17:11, 1:17:16]: And then the uh the other items down the list, many of whom are part of the trail plan. [1:17:16, 1:17:21]: The other items I would mention to you very quickly, Country Club Drive, obviously there's uh been some uh [1:17:22, 1:17:34]: concern there about uh enhancements and then Burke and Love Street, uh which may be a little bit high uh in those estimates I would acknowledge. However, part of that was trying to ensure that there would be [1:17:34, 1:17:39]: uh the ability for ability for pedestrians to move in and around the downtown area. [1:17:39, 1:17:44]: amphitheater connected to the potential um uh cultural arts center. [1:17:44, 1:17:48]: And so that was um part of the reason uh for that. [1:17:50, 1:17:50]: Right. [1:17:53, 1:18:02]: So we got several, he's got so we have several items on there reference to ML King Senior Heritage Trail, several off uh spurs per se on our list as well. [1:18:03, 1:18:05]: Of course, while Stevens is on there. [1:18:06, 1:18:10]: Tyshree sidewalks and extension for Reese Creek Trail. [1:18:13, 1:18:20]: You know, earlier in our conversation we talked about uh Campground Road and Flippin' Road, which all part going out of the city and all part of District Four. [1:18:21, 1:18:26]: Uh it's Vivian Thomas and so I'm pretty sure we can probably work out something with her if need be. [1:18:26, 1:18:32]: And then uh any thoughts about uh from the council about Patrick Henry Parkway? Any thoughts about that? [1:18:32, 1:18:33]: Concerns about that at all? [1:18:36, 1:18:37]: It's in district four as well. [1:18:41, 1:18:50]: No concerns? Well well, I think that uh Patrick Henry Parkway is a vital thoroughfare. I think that uh you know, right now as we talk about right of way maintenance, Henry County [1:18:51, 1:19:11]: Uh a lot of that Patrick Henry Parkway is in the city limits of Stockbridge and the grass is cut and maintained along that Jo uh Georgia Power all the way to Johtoco Jodico Road. I mean that is that is one of the things that they do uh consistently. I'm I'm hopeful that we'll have a major project in the area. [1:19:11, 1:19:16]: that will have actually enhance it. And as you know, the Oaks at Eagles Landing [1:19:16, 1:19:18]: Синьо [1:19:18, 1:19:38]: Senior community is going to be there. As part of Patrick Henry Parkway, we added the requirement that any new development would have to construct a 10-foot-wide multi-use path. So along that frontage, along Patrick Henry Parkway, they will have to add a 10-foot-wide multi-use path and the hotel. [1:19:38, 1:19:58]: Tell uh the true by Hilton will have to add the 10-foot-wide uh multi-use path as well. I have concern for that particular area, but I'm I'm thinking that uh new development will actually take care of that for us if we're patient, that they'll add the uh trails and the infrastructure along Patrick Hill. [1:19:58, 1:20:07]: Henry Parkway for us uh at their cost because uh there's a rumor that there's a major recreation facility gonna go in that area as well. So [1:20:08, 1:20:08]: We shall see. [1:20:09, 1:20:09]: All right. [1:20:10, 1:20:13]: You know, comments about Patrick Hinn, anybody thought about that? Anybody else? [1:20:13, 1:20:18]: Well, I I do have a comment on something else, but I wouldn't after you finish it to Patrick Henry. [1:20:20, 1:20:20]: Go right in. [1:20:21, 1:20:34]: Well, I I do wanna just for food for thought, just want to put this out to the council. Uh as you know, um there's been this conversation about closing uh Nolan. Uh there's been some conversation about [1:20:34, 1:20:35]: Um [1:20:36, 1:20:36]: A [1:20:37, 1:20:40]: Extending Nolan out to McCain Creek. [1:20:40, 1:20:43]: Uh a traffic light at McCain Creek. [1:20:43, 1:20:47]: Uh, that would also uh help out for the traffic. [1:20:47, 1:20:49]: Uh for the uh art center. [1:20:49, 1:20:52]: Uh, I just wanted to put that on the table. [1:20:52, 1:21:02]: just to get some conversation, if not today, maybe at another time. So just to be clear, um a conversation about a traffic light on North Henry at McCain Creek. [1:21:03, 1:21:12]: Also, that would relieve uh if Nolan Street is closed, that would give uh citizens coming from [1:21:12, 1:21:14]: Anywhere south of North Henry. [1:21:15, 1:21:18]: Um a way to uh access out. [1:21:18, 1:21:35]: uh with a traffic light there at McCain Creek. So I just want to put that on the table and I don't want to get too deep into a conversation today. I know we've been here for a while today already, but uh we would like to get it into a conversation at some point in time uh about this. [1:21:35, 1:21:36]: Right. [1:21:36, 1:21:37]: So be it. [1:21:38, 1:21:55]: Any other comments uh from mister from Mr. Knight in reference to the proposed tentative draft list here. T splash list. Just in information for informational purposes, flippin' road consists of um and I agree well, flip and road is a concern. It has been a concern. [1:21:56, 1:22:04]: And traffic is growing. There's a new subdivision coming up. I believe several of us went to the county meeting. I remember going and speaking about. [1:22:05, 1:22:15]: this in regards to overcrowding of our schools as well as the traffic and the impact of traffic and what that's going to look like with this new subdivision coming up. [1:22:15, 1:22:16]: Mm-hmm. [1:22:16, 1:22:17]: Flip and road. [1:22:18, 1:22:19]: Consists of three [1:22:20, 1:22:23]: Districts, district two. [1:22:24, 1:22:31]: District four and district five and a portion of the city, just so the citizens can be informed. [1:22:31, 1:22:33]: Of what it will take. [1:22:33, 1:22:34]: To [1:22:35, 1:22:36]: have improvements done. [1:22:37, 1:22:39]: All the way down Flipper Road. [1:22:39, 1:22:41]: It would take a joint effort. [1:22:41, 1:22:42]: between district two [1:22:43, 1:22:45]: Four, five, and the city. [1:22:45, 1:22:49]: Um and I just want and and I want everyone to know that. [1:22:49, 1:22:52]: Um it is flip and road is considered county's responsibility. [1:22:53, 1:22:57]: I don't see it on the list. I don't know if we've had anything or any plans for improvements. [1:22:58, 1:22:59]: But four. [1:22:59, 1:23:05]: You know, since then I do know that one of the challenges peop people were asking about widening the road. [1:23:06, 1:23:08]: One of the challenges is there's a bridge there. [1:23:09, 1:23:09]: Um [1:23:10, 1:23:16]: that if you pass it you'll say, Oh, okay, I get I get it now. Um there's a under prep pass there. [1:23:16, 1:23:19]: Um that would be of challenge and very costly. [1:23:19, 1:23:25]: So, you know, sidewalks, a lot of people are going the walking that road at night. It has become very dangerous. [1:23:26, 1:23:29]: Um, and is something that I am concerned about as well. [1:23:29, 1:23:30]: Um [1:23:31, 1:23:45]: I would love to see the trails connect like Councilman Alexander discussed earlier. I think that's one of our future plans. It would be awesome. Um, I live right here off of Walt Stevens. You go a little bit further down and you see the Lake Spivey Trail. [1:23:46, 1:23:58]: over that could easily be connected to what our vision of of what we the way we want our city all the way to Reeves Creek and continue on. I do see on this list that there are [1:23:59, 1:23:59]: Three. [1:24:00, 1:24:05]: projects, I don't know why they're separated. The M L King Singer Heritage Trail, it looks like they're [1:24:05, 1:24:25]: I mean they're right by each other. Floyd Chapel, Greenfront, and then the remaining of the Heritage Trail. I don't know why it's not lumped together in that way, but I know that that is a uh something that we all want done for our downtown. But I just wanted to give that comment so that people are aware of what districts Flippin' Road is in. [1:24:25, 1:24:25]: Yeah. [1:24:26, 1:24:30]: Um and so we will need the help and cooperation of our county commissioners. [1:24:31, 1:24:32]: Uh. [1:24:33, 1:24:50]: Councilwoman stand by. Go ahead, Mr. Knight. Stand by. Real quick, Councilman Gantt, the reason why they were listed uh separately, although they essentially linked together, is because that's the way they were listed in the uh bicycle, pedestrian trail plan. They specifically were listed separately. So I went ahead and listed them separately since they were uh listed separately in that plan. [1:24:51, 1:24:51]: Thank you. [1:24:52, 1:24:53]: Mr. Alzheimer's, go ahead, sir. [1:24:53, 1:25:01]: Yes, uh in in regards to Councilwoman Gantt, I think that is a very uh uh excellent point and I think that's something that we should bring up. [1:25:01, 1:25:08]: uh at the meeting tomorrow night. That's this is a joint meeting. Now I do understand the Henry County in their comprehensive plan. [1:25:09, 1:25:29]: do has do have a plan to widen flip and rope the entirety of it. But that will require a total effort on everybody's part and a partnership with G DOT. Should the T supplots pass, there's a two billion dollar deficit here in Henry County. And we go to them with the two two hundred million dollars in projects that we're moving forward. We [1:25:29, 1:25:49]: expect that we have skin in the game and they will help us move forward. But this is an excellent thing that we should bring up tomorrow at that meeting. We have all of those commissioners there and they could discuss easily what what uh funding mechanism that they expect to bring to bear in order to widen Flipman Road because it [1:25:49, 1:25:54]: is in their comprehensive plan and an extension down uh to Jonesboro Road. [1:25:54, 1:26:14]: It should be noted on the new Broeder Farm development, it will be required to build a 10-foot multi-use path along all of the frontage on Walt Stevens Road. That is one of the requirements. So the in their master trail plan and their overlay, it covers all of the major thoroughfares. So when they build Broder Farm, they will have [1:26:14, 1:26:20]: have to build a ten foot path along all of that portion along Walt Stevens Road. [1:26:21, 1:26:30]: Mr. Mayor. Go right ahead, sir. Mayor Fortin. I I do wanna echo that too, but I do just wanna uh say tonight and some of the other staff that that may not know. [1:26:31, 1:26:46]: at least five, maybe six uh subdivisions um on uh flipping that's in the city of Stockbridge. I'm not sure what the brothers farm, but uh seemed that a traffic light probably gonna be needed there. [1:26:46, 1:26:51]: Um there are times when you cannot get out on flipping. [1:26:51, 1:27:01]: So uh I just started just putting all this into the mix for the conversation. And with this 300 plus unit coming at the voters farm, uh it's gonna be hell. [1:27:02, 1:27:02]: It is. [1:27:03, 1:27:15]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I I agree with that.'Cause I live right around the corner from there. Myself and Dan live in Monarch Village and we go down that way all the time to get to the highway. Or get to cover it all the time. [1:27:15, 1:27:20]: Yeah, you know it's it's about five or six seven million that's in the city limits down there. Yeah, I understand. [1:27:21, 1:27:21]: I understand. [1:27:21, 1:27:30]: I would, if I may, Mayor, I and I certainly understand uh the sentiments of the council as it relates to that uh very large subdivision, but I would offer this. [1:27:30, 1:27:33]: Um Henry County approved that subdivision. [1:27:34, 1:27:38]: And we should seek to find out what remedy they are going to provide. [1:27:38, 1:27:40]: [5261.3, 5268.9]: Again, I'm not saying that it you know it couldn't lend itself to some type of joint project, but Henry County is the one who approved that and therefore [1:27:49, 1:27:50]: In my view [1:27:50, 1:27:55]: We certainly would want to find out what the uh transportation enhancements are. [1:27:55, 1:27:58]: uh to provide relief for that uh uh and handle [1:27:59, 1:28:01]: uh the transportation network for that subdivision. [1:28:02, 1:28:08]: Good point. We need to do that as well. All right. Any more questions for Mr. Knight and a discussion we need to have about the project list here? [1:28:10, 1:28:15]: No, I'm good. If if not, uh I well I and let me ask this. How about um [1:28:15, 1:28:17]: Uh Mr Blount, you got anything, sir? [1:28:18, 1:28:20]: Yeah, just real quick uh [1:28:20, 1:28:23]: When you look at the project list, you look at when we talked about [1:28:23, 1:28:27]: Uh, the wising of Rock Quarry Road, we talked about monies that that was uh [1:28:28, 1:28:31]: previously allocated for Rock Rock Quarter Road. [1:28:31, 1:28:33]: Because they've already done the um [1:28:34, 1:28:39]: They've already done the uh uh survey on Rock Square World and the D uh G dot [1:28:39, 1:28:44]: has already had their meetings in the in the Henry County uh portion with the Iraqi they've had their [1:28:44, 1:28:45]: Meetings. [1:28:45, 1:28:48]: Um, I I'd like to find out if this project [1:28:49, 1:28:53]: is gonna be ready to go move go ahead and move forward with this T-SPLOST. [1:28:53, 1:28:56]: Virges being a process because of so much money. [1:28:56, 1:28:59]: uh trying to w widen the whole flippin' road. [1:28:59, 1:29:06]: Will this floss itself go ahead and move forward with the project of widening rock quarry road, which is well needed right now? [1:29:07, 1:29:09]: It's been needed for quite a while and and have [1:29:09, 1:29:15]: to have such a uh important road that uh road that was going to the emergency room or the hospital. [1:29:15, 1:29:19]: The only uh you know, the hospital that's in the county i in in in the city limits [1:29:19, 1:29:23]: in the county area, we need to go ahead and get that done because it's it's it's [1:29:23, 1:29:27]: has become a hazard for a long time and the project has already started, but [1:29:27, 1:29:29]: Will this would this tea splot finish it? [1:29:30, 1:29:35]: And then you start whatever needs to be allocated and and state funding or whatever need to happen. [1:29:36, 1:29:39]: For uh flip and road because they put the cop [1:29:39, 1:29:41]: caught before the horse, if you will, because [1:29:42, 1:29:44]: You know, there's hundreds of th there's been [1:29:45, 1:29:47]: Several people that have been asking [1:29:47, 1:29:51]: about but prior to uh them approving this uh [1:29:51, 1:29:55]: this project over on flip a road, what are you gonna do with the infrastructure? [1:29:55, 1:29:57]: What are you gonna do about the infrastructure? [1:29:57, 1:30:00]: And not one time they they they've addressed that prior to [1:30:01, 1:30:07]: uh something substantially substantiated to the people that they're gonna move forward to with anything prior to uh [1:30:07, 1:30:11]: approving this project. So I I like to see Rock Court Rose and [1:30:11, 1:30:15]: This project already been started to go ahead and and and finish it with the cheese block. [1:30:16, 1:30:19]: I appreciate it. Miss Alexander, you got something else, sir? [1:30:19, 1:30:39]: Yeah, I do because uh actually I saw this posting. They're having a meeting tomorrow in in response to Councilman Blount. There there actually is a meeting tomorrow from uh four, I think from four to seven uh at the office at the same time on Rock Quarry Road, so citizens can give input and I would I'm I plan on go [1:30:39, 1:30:47]: Going myself as well. Right. I believe it's I believe it may be four to eight, but somewhere in that time frame tomorrow. That is correct, Councilman Alexander. That's right. [1:30:48, 1:30:51]: Councilwoman Barb Councilwoman Barb, you got anything else you want to add at all? [1:31:00, 1:31:01]: Housewoman Barber. [1:31:01, 1:31:03]: So you have to need that? [1:31:03, 1:31:04]: Had [1:31:05, 1:31:06]: Okay. [1:31:06, 1:31:10]: All right. If there are no other comments then uh Mayor, Mayor got a question. [1:31:10, 1:31:12]: Yes, sir. [1:31:12, 1:31:15]: I'm sorry, I was clear but I throat I I thought I had no beef. [1:31:15, 1:31:20]: Uh this meeting is saying about Rock Quarry Road uh [1:31:20, 1:31:21]: It's tomorrow. What time? [1:31:23, 1:31:25]: I believe it is four to eight. [1:31:25, 1:31:28]: Like I believe it's an open house from four to eight. [1:31:29, 1:31:30]: At Henry County Government. [1:31:32, 1:31:33]: Now what is this meeting? [1:31:34, 1:31:37]: gonna be about prior to the meetings they've already had. That's what I'm trying to figure out. [1:31:39, 1:31:46]: I don't know specifically, I'd assume that it would prelude the construction of the project, but I don't know I'll [1:31:46, 1:31:50]: Seek to find some information out to you and provide that to you by email. [1:31:50, 1:31:55]: And the reason I'm asking because G Dot had already put out the mappings and everything on a potential [1:31:55, 1:31:59]: Turnaround, turn uh turnabouts and all that because uh when they had the one over uh [1:32:00, 1:32:05]: Uh they showed the the how much right away they're gonna have to acquire throughout the whole project. [1:32:05, 1:32:10]: And and as far as I'm understanding they I don't know if they've started acquiring right away. I know they've done the survey. [1:32:12, 1:32:13]: All right. All right. Uh [1:32:14, 1:32:21]: Mr. I mean, excuse me, um Mr. Knight, so you're gonna check out check it out further and see what you can find out and give us sentence a message, I guess? I will, yes. [1:32:21, 1:32:34]: Okay. Ms. Alexander, go ahead, sir. Yeah, yeah, just a little bit more information on it. From what I read, uh the meeting is gonna be for the property owners because uh they can see uh understand and have discussion. [1:32:34, 1:32:37]: on what the impact of the um [1:32:37, 1:32:39]: acquisitions are going to be [1:32:40, 1:32:42]: And for the general public at large. [1:32:43, 1:32:44]: Okay. [1:32:44, 1:32:45]: Are there other comments? [1:32:46, 1:32:54]: And if not, I'd like to have a motion to adjourn our special call meeting. Yes, may I may adjust to Mr. Al Ms uh Mr. Alexander real quick. [1:32:54, 1:32:57]: Those are the meetings that G Dot has already had. [1:32:57, 1:33:00]: In fact they the some properties are only gonna have five feet. [1:33:01, 1:33:05]: Ha the roadway is gonna be only five feet from I'm saying those meetings is I [1:33:05, 1:33:07]: This is where I'm saying they stop. [1:33:07, 1:33:13]: And I'm trying to figure out how they're gonna pick up and complete the project'cause those meetings have already been had. [1:33:13, 1:33:15]: All those beatings are how much right away [1:33:15, 1:33:21]: Each subdivision are gonna have taken away from them where the turnabout's gonna be, where the potential lights gonna be. [1:33:22, 1:33:22]: Uh [1:33:22, 1:33:27]: Surveying what uh lands uh what what areas need to be uh right away acquisition. [1:33:27, 1:33:28]: All of this has been done. [1:33:29, 1:33:35]: And see to go over this again just prolongs the project. Are they gonna take this th T splash [1:33:35, 1:33:46]: And move that's what I'd like to know if they're gonna move forward was already on the table and now work on flipping road and all these other things that we just talked about. If not, then then I just don't want the county sitting here stalling projects. [1:33:47, 1:33:51]: once again, that they can now move forward with because some m groundwork have already been done. [1:33:52, 1:34:05]: Well, I I would hope that uh they I mean they have made a strong indication with the thirty two million dollars uh on the T-SPLOST and I'm hoping that the commissioners would actually approve that on the final list. [1:34:05, 1:34:07]: If so, then they'll have the money. [1:34:07, 1:34:13]: Because once the T splash is approved, it'll go into effect, I think, within April and they'll start collecting the money on it. [1:34:15, 1:34:19]: Once again, miss night and see what you can find out. Let us know before the meeting tomorrow, sir. [1:34:21, 1:34:36]: I will I will do that, sir. Absolutely. And I think, you know, G DOT oftentimes will have multiple meetings to ensure that stakeholders are given an ample opportunity to provide comments on a particular project, but it certainly will provide you with additional information on tomorrow evening's meeting. [1:34:36, 1:34:37]: All right. [1:34:37, 1:34:39]: Once again, okay, Miss Gantt. [1:34:39, 1:34:43]: Okay, real quick, Mr Knighton. Um, if you could [1:34:44, 1:34:55]: Send us that list. I think those are new wish the different districts and their potential possible road projects if you haven't already for tomorrow. [1:34:55, 1:35:01]: I'm sorry, you're talking about the Henry County list? The Henry County list. Yes, I did send that to you earlier. Um [1:35:01, 1:35:07]: Earlier this afternoon, I probably hadn't had a chance to look at it. Um, but uh yeah, it all of that is contained there. [1:35:07, 1:35:12]: And it's a spreadsheet so you can go down to each tab for each district in their resurfacing project. [1:35:13, 1:35:26]: Okay. So those are just resurfacing and maintenance projects. On on the district list, there's the there's the main list with the road projects that they've got. Okay. And then they're yeah, the district lists mainly have resurfacing. Yes, that's correct. [1:35:26, 1:35:34]: So and by the way, everybody, I did pull up the City of Stockbridge twenty ten list from the county. Um [1:35:35, 1:35:48]: SDS agreement and they were using SPLOSS funds for those. And two other projects that that have not been completed is um with the city of Stockbridge that were the counter responsibility was Mount Zion Road. [1:35:49, 1:35:51]: And Walt Stevens wrote. [1:35:51, 1:35:54]: And so the money was allocated for those back. [1:35:55, 1:35:58]: It looks like in 2010 through Splost, just so you know. [1:35:58, 1:36:04]: And I'll forward that to you. I'll forward it over to you. I don't have a dollar amount allocated on here. [1:36:04, 1:36:05]: I'll pour you what I have. [1:36:06, 1:36:09]: Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that. Also mayor. [1:36:09, 1:36:09]: Yes, sir. [1:36:10, 1:36:10]: Mayor. [1:36:10, 1:36:20]: Go right in. You remember that they did the right away, they did the survey with the one point two million dollars that came in. Remember that it was uh one point two million dollars. Remember they [1:36:21, 1:36:22]: Uh when uh Commissioner uh [1:36:23, 1:36:24]: A press [1:36:24, 1:36:27]: when Blake uh Prince was in there, he was trying to get [1:36:27, 1:36:31]: The city of stock bridge to put skin in the game for those for those purposes, but [1:36:31, 1:36:35]: the uh with monies that came in I think the state uh would uh [1:36:35, 1:36:39]: Here we kind of DOT somebody to bought me money, I think it was one point two million dollars. [1:36:40, 1:36:43]: All the preliminaries on that was already done with that money. [1:36:43, 1:36:44]: And the survey. [1:36:45, 1:36:47]: Good job. Gotcha. [1:36:47, 1:36:48]: Anything else? [1:36:50, 1:36:53]: All right. If not, I'd like to make uh have a motion to adjourn the meeting, please. [1:36:54, 1:36:55]: So move. [1:36:55, 1:36:56]: Is there a second? [1:36:56, 1:36:59]: Second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [1:36:59, 1:37:00]: Yeah. [1:37:00, 1:37:01]: All right. [1:37:01, 1:37:05]: Meetings adjourned. I'll see you all tomorrow. Evening. Thank you. [1:37:05, 1:37:06]: Thanks. [1:37:06, 1:37:07]: Take safe. [1:37:07, 1:37:08]: Yes, absolutely. Stay safe now. [1:37:11, 1:37:13]: Stay safe, that's right. [1:37:42, 1:37:45]:

--- title: June 8 2020 City Council Meeting date: 2020-06-08 source: 2020-06-08_June_8_2020_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:02]: Yeah. Heavenly Father, we come to you today. [0:00:04, 0:00:08]: We ask we ask dear God. [0:00:08, 0:00:10]: We asked for wisdom. [0:00:10, 0:00:12]: And we asked for that for this. [0:00:13, 0:00:16]: God, we ask that you clear our minds and our hearts. [0:00:18, 0:00:22]: And be with us as we make the decisions for the city. [0:00:26, 0:00:27]: Allow us to work together. [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: As one team [0:00:32, 0:00:35]: With the amount that's interest of the city. [0:00:36, 0:00:37]: Oh, we have to play for uh [0:00:38, 0:00:39]: Yes, yes. [0:00:39, 0:00:42]: This country. [0:00:42, 0:00:43]: And [0:00:44, 0:00:45]: Oh super secondary. [0:00:47, 0:00:48]: We have added. [0:00:49, 0:00:52]: You to continue? [0:00:52, 0:00:52]: Right. [0:00:53, 0:00:54]: In your name for your code. [0:00:55, 0:00:55]: Yeah. [0:00:59, 0:01:00]: All right. [0:01:01, 0:01:03]: Thank you for that invocation. [0:01:03, 0:01:05]: Pledge allegiance. Can everybody please stand, please? [0:01:10, 0:01:11]: I pledge allegiance. [0:01:11, 0:01:12]: Two black for [0:01:13, 0:01:15]: Nine states of America. [0:01:16, 0:01:17]: And two republic. [0:01:18, 0:01:19]: From which it stands. [0:01:20, 0:01:21]: Mm-hmm. [0:01:21, 0:01:22]: Under God. Under God. [0:01:23, 0:01:24]: And the principle. [0:01:24, 0:01:26]: With liberty and justice. [0:01:26, 0:01:27]: Yeah. [0:01:33, 0:01:35]: Madam Kirk, roll call, please. [0:01:37, 0:01:40]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:01:41, 0:01:41]: Present. [0:01:42, 0:01:43]: Councilman Alexander. [0:01:44, 0:01:45]: Present. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:01:47, 0:01:47]: That's that. [0:01:48, 0:01:49]: Councilman Blount. [0:01:50, 0:01:54]: Councilman Blount is having problems with his audio at the moment. [0:01:54, 0:01:58]: Eugene from Interdev is working on his audio. [0:01:58, 0:02:00]: And um [0:02:00, 0:02:05]: If if it is okay with the council, I'd asked if we could give that just a few more minutes, if that's possible. [0:02:06, 0:02:09]: to get that to hopefully get that situation straightened out. [0:02:09, 0:02:12]: Okay, and also Councilwoman Gantt. [0:02:19, 0:02:23]: So we'll hold off on the roll call for now. Um [0:02:29, 0:02:30]: Do you see the mayor? [0:02:30, 0:02:34]: I was counseling Gam. She was just given invocation. She's new she's no longer on online. [0:02:35, 0:02:36]: I don't see Ms. Camp. [0:02:40, 0:02:41]: There we go. Spa well. [0:02:42, 0:02:42]: There we go. [0:02:44, 0:02:45]: Transforming it. [0:02:45, 0:02:46]: Present. [0:02:47, 0:02:48]: Okay. [0:02:50, 0:02:50]: Well [0:02:51, 0:02:54]: It kicked me out or something. I don't know what happened. Okay. [0:02:55, 0:03:05]: Well, I uh I tell you what, I appreciate the uh Mr Knighton, but we have a quorum, so we might as well keep going. He can join us as soon as we I I do see Mr. Blount. I see Councilman Blount. [0:03:07, 0:03:08]: Is it present? [0:03:08, 0:03:08]: Yes. [0:03:11, 0:03:14]: Yes, he is chair and I think I think he can hear us. [0:03:15, 0:03:16]: Um [0:03:17, 0:03:20]: But he cannot there's problem with his audio apparently. [0:03:23, 0:03:23]: All right. [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: Hey, councillor. [0:03:28, 0:03:29]: Randy, this is not [0:03:30, 0:03:35]: We need to hold up this meeting until everybody's uh able to zoom in. We're in a unique situation here. [0:03:36, 0:03:41]: That's out of my control. Right. I think council, could you hear Councilman Blount? [0:03:42, 0:03:43]: He's he's I can hear him. [0:03:44, 0:03:48]: He's asking that the meeting be held until his audio is corrected. [0:03:49, 0:03:49]: Uh huh. [0:03:51, 0:04:00]: All right, well, I mean we have a quorum. I mean it went we have a quorum in this aspect. I mean if we want to wait a few minutes we can wait a few minutes. That's what's supposed to happen. [0:04:00, 0:04:05]: I'm there I'm here at the meeting and it uh whether anybody wants to keep going or not, it shouldn't have to go on. [0:04:07, 0:04:09]: I can't I can't hear you, Mr. Blount. [0:04:12, 0:04:16]: I can question I I can hear Mr. Blount through your phone, Mr. Knighton. [0:04:20, 0:04:31]: Now I can't. You're on mute. Okay, yeah, I'm on mute. You could hear me through the phone. Well I can hear Mr. Blount through the phone. All right. There was a bit of an echo, I think, but let me see if I can uh reach him. [0:05:01, 0:05:03]: Oh. [0:05:04, 0:05:10]: [318.3, 322.4]: Mayor Casiman Blount indicated that he's going to try to log in through his phone. [0:05:23, 0:05:24]: All right. Just a moment. [0:05:25, 0:05:26]: All right. [0:05:58, 0:05:58]: Mm. [0:07:20, 0:07:22]: All right, tell you what. I mean [0:07:22, 0:07:28]: We we have a quorum. We can go he can join us at any moment. There's times that council members join at a different time that clerks. [0:07:28, 0:07:30]: Make note of that when they join the meeting. [0:07:31, 0:07:31]: Okay. [0:07:32, 0:07:37]: I if he I don't know what what the deal is. If he was trying to get through on the phone, hopefully you'll get through soon and we can at least hear him. [0:07:38, 0:07:39]: All right. [0:07:39, 0:07:46]: And I imagine that uh we like I say we have a quorum. So I'm gonna ask the council the motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:07:47, 0:07:49]: Mayor, I'd like to amend the agenda. [0:07:49, 0:07:50]: All right, go right in, please. [0:07:51, 0:07:53]: I'd like to amend the agenda to add the resolution. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: Uh supporting [0:07:55, 0:07:57]: The adoption of a hate crimes bill. [0:07:58, 0:07:59]: In Georgia. [0:08:00, 0:08:01]: All right. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: A second. [0:08:03, 0:08:04]: Is that sec who second that? [0:08:05, 0:08:06]: Can't. Okay, good. [0:08:07, 0:08:08]: Okay. [0:08:08, 0:08:13]: All in favor of adding that to the uh agenda, please indicate, raise your hand. [0:08:14, 0:08:17]: I uh I got two. I can't I can't see anybody else's hand. [0:08:18, 0:08:20]: Everybody's talking. [0:08:22, 0:08:26]: Thomas, Skant, Alexander, I did not see [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: Councilman Blount. [0:08:28, 0:08:32]: Okay. So we got uh four Because I don't know if he heard it. [0:08:34, 0:08:35]: All right, so it's [0:08:35, 0:08:38]: Ask Mr. Nightingale if he k did Mr. Blount hear it. [0:08:41, 0:08:51]: Councilman, can you hear the motion Councilman Blount, could you hear the motion to amend the agenda to add the resolution regarding supporting hate crime legislation? [0:08:58, 0:09:00]: If you can, if you would raise your hand. [0:09:01, 0:09:04]: If you could hear that uh the amendment of the agenda. [0:09:07, 0:09:10]: Okay. All right. All right. [0:09:11, 0:09:17]: Thank you. Okay, fine. So no other agendas, no other no additions to the agenda at all. That's it. Is that right? [0:09:18, 0:09:19]: Okay. [0:09:20, 0:09:20]: That's a note. [0:09:21, 0:09:22]: Then uh that's passed. [0:09:22, 0:09:26]: All right. So approval of the minutes for the follow-up meeting, which was uh April twenty eighth. [0:09:27, 0:09:28]: The council work session. [0:09:29, 0:09:36]: Uh unless there are any additions or changes, I need a motion to accept the uh accept that uh work session uh minutes, please. [0:09:38, 0:09:40]: Yeah, motion seven minutes on the [0:09:41, 0:09:42]: April twenty eighth work session minutes. [0:09:48, 0:09:49]: Is there a motion too for that? [0:09:51, 0:09:51]: So moved. [0:09:52, 0:09:56]: All right, is there a second? Second. There we go. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:58, 0:10:00]: Okay, we got the number. [0:10:01, 0:10:04]: I don't have a vote from Councilman Blount. [0:10:04, 0:10:05]: Uh [0:10:06, 0:10:11]: Councilman Councilman Blount is is listening through my phone right now. He asked [0:10:12, 0:10:19]: Yes, he asked for the last motion. The last motion was to accept the uh session agenda. [0:10:20, 0:10:25]: Is that correct? That's correct. No the minutes. The minutes are four twenty eight. The four twenty eight. [0:10:25, 0:10:29]: Uh work session minutes. [0:10:30, 0:10:31]: So it's a damus in that aspect. [0:10:31, 0:10:32]: Thank you. [0:10:33, 0:10:34]: Perco, do we have any public comments? [0:10:35, 0:10:40]: We do we have one public comment from Mr. Corey Randazzo. [0:10:40, 0:10:40]: Okay. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: And his comment is [0:10:47, 0:10:52]: I will defend my property from all illegitimate claims. [0:10:54, 0:10:59]: That's the end of the comment. All right, so thank you. We logged it in. New business. [0:11:00, 0:11:10]: Council consideration to approve an increase to the security contract for Johnson Controls for the new public work facility in the amount of forty-eight thousand four hundred eighty-nine dollars and twenty-nine cents. [0:11:10, 0:11:19]: Funding source 347-422-00-541321. RFP two oh nine two thousand nineteen. [0:11:20, 0:11:23]: As zero zero three two p presented by Miss Miller. [0:11:24, 0:11:34]: And Mr. Ford. Yes, sir. Is it okay that I acknowledge the staff people or part of this call as panelists? Yeah, go right ahead, sir. That would be Vanessa Holliday. [0:11:35, 0:11:36]: Tamilla Moore. [0:11:36, 0:11:38]: Lendale Miller. [0:11:39, 0:11:44]: John Wiggins and Descious Air and his staff members, we also have as panelists. [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: Kit Layton from Falcon Design. [0:11:47, 0:11:54]: Uh Will Bush from Johnson Control and then Stephen Quinn who is sitting in for Mike Williams in the role of attorney. [0:11:55, 0:11:59]: Uh that should be all of the staff members and panelists uh who are part of this call. [0:12:00, 0:12:01]: Okay, I'll stand it. [0:12:02, 0:12:06]: Uh Miss Miller, you and Mr. I guess we're gonna tag team this one. So go right go write it, please. [0:12:07, 0:12:12]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. The procurement division is requesting approval to increase [0:12:12, 0:12:15]: the contract amount for Johnson controls. [0:12:15, 0:12:22]: In the amount of forty eight thousand four hundred and eighty nine dollars and twenty-nine cents for the facility security equipment systems. [0:12:22, 0:12:27]: uh procurement number two zero one nine zero zero zero three two [0:12:27, 0:12:28]: Pete. [0:12:29, 0:12:36]: Back in October twenty-ninth, the council initially uh gave us authority to piggyback the con contract with Johnson control with the [0:12:37, 0:12:37]: Um [0:12:38, 0:12:39]: NJPA. [0:12:39, 0:12:49]: On May twenty-sixth, council also increased the contract again before the two thousand seven I'm sorry, uh May twenty-sixth, council increased the contract. [0:12:49, 0:12:53]: Um to an overall amount of three hundred and eighteen thousand. [0:12:53, 0:12:53]: Three [0:12:54, 0:13:09]: Three hundred and eighteen thousand three hundred thirty-two dollars and thirty-seven cents. We're now asking asking you to increase the second time, which would bring it to an overall total of three hundred and sixty-six thousand eight hundred twenty-one dollars and sixty-six cents. [0:13:10, 0:13:11]: I'm gonna thank you for that presentation. [0:13:12, 0:13:13]: Any questions, Council? [0:13:16, 0:13:19]: Any questions? Ms. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, it looks like you lit up first. [0:13:20, 0:13:21]: Yeah, where I was [0:13:22, 0:13:26]: Yes, I I guess I do have a question. Uh Mrs. Miller, how are you today? [0:13:27, 0:13:28]: I'm great myself. [0:13:28, 0:13:32]: Okay, um looking at the document, um [0:13:33, 0:13:37]: on the uh staff recommendation under description [0:13:38, 0:13:42]: Um public works facility monitor and maintenance. [0:13:42, 0:13:44]: Yeah, two [0:13:45, 0:13:47]: There's five um [0:13:48, 0:13:50]: I was trying to see [0:13:51, 0:13:53]: How you came about? [0:13:54, 0:13:56]: uh this figure [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: Was it a a total based on [0:14:00, 0:14:05]: Um a one year to five year calculation. Is that figure? [0:14:05, 0:14:23]: Well yes, um, um it's also in the attached document invoice, but if you look at the attached document invoice, the first year maintenance, monitor and maintenance was six hundred and sixty-nine dollars. Year two through five, if if it's if need be, would be a total of seven thousand six hundred and seventy-six dollars. [0:14:24, 0:14:25]: In the fifth year. [0:14:25, 0:14:29]: In the year two through five, the second year through the fifth year. [0:14:29, 0:14:30]: Okay. [0:14:30, 0:14:31]: Yes. [0:14:32, 0:14:32]: Thank you. [0:14:33, 0:14:33]: You're welcome. [0:14:35, 0:14:37]: Any other questions for Miss Lindell? [0:14:39, 0:14:43]: If no other questions, I see none. I need a motion to accept this proposal. [0:14:45, 0:14:45]: The move. [0:14:46, 0:14:46]: Is there a second? [0:14:47, 0:14:48]: Okay. [0:14:48, 0:14:50]: There uh second was Alexander. Okay, there we go. [0:14:51, 0:14:53]: Um any further further discussion? [0:14:54, 0:14:56]: Yes, sir, go right here, Councilman Aslan. [0:14:56, 0:15:01]: Uh I'm sorry. No, I was raising my hand to vote for All in favor, please indicate. [0:15:02, 0:15:04]: One, two, three, four. [0:15:05, 0:15:06]: Mr. Blonde, are you voting? [0:15:07, 0:15:07]: It's Blount. [0:15:09, 0:15:14]: Are you you voting for the motion? There we go. Five. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:15:14, 0:15:17]: Uh mayor point point of order clarification. Yes. [0:15:18, 0:15:19]: Go ahead. [0:15:20, 0:15:25]: Uh Mr. Knighton, I just want to make sure uh the right-of-way item [0:15:25, 0:15:35]: Uh was that placed on the agenda by you on the revised agenda or do we need to add it? That was not placed on the agenda. The agenda would need to be amended to add that item. [0:15:36, 0:15:45]: Okay, well I would like to amend the agenda to add the right of way maintenance item uh that we previously discussed to add uh the um [0:15:46, 0:15:47]: Maintenance of [0:15:47, 0:15:53]: uh highway one thirty eight to this agenda so we can look at the estimates and approve it tonight. [0:15:53, 0:16:02]: Mr. Alexander, I earlier I asked if there were any any additional amendments to the agenda and I got none at that time, which is several several minutes ago. [0:16:03, 0:16:12]: But um I would imagine Stephen Quinn, since you're here instead of Mike Williams, I would imagine we can if the council wants to do that, we can we can amend the agenda at this point since we passed that initial point anyway. [0:16:13, 0:16:33]: At any time. That's correct. I think that uh technically once we adopt the agenda it requires a unanimous consent. Uh that's just kind of a general rule. I don't know whatever rules that the Stockbridge City Council may have, uh, you know, however you normally do things, then that [0:16:33, 0:16:39]: would control but in in general once the agenda is adopted it would be a unanimous consent item. [0:16:39, 0:16:40]: Point of water. [0:16:41, 0:16:42]: Okay. [0:16:42, 0:16:43]: Point of order. [0:16:43, 0:16:45]: We'll go right ahead, please. [0:16:45, 0:17:05]: Our general rules that we have provided for with this council is that we have amended the agenda at any time. It's a s it's uh regrettable that Mr. Williams is not here, but we've amended the agenda numerous times, uh just s on a simple majority vote and that's what I would request as our normal operating procedure. [0:17:05, 0:17:05]: Yeah. [0:17:05, 0:17:11]: And certainly the the council controls its own procedures and uh that would be appropriate then. [0:17:12, 0:17:13]: All right. [0:17:14, 0:17:17]: So you made a motion to uh [0:17:17, 0:17:22]: to add the right of way discussion in reference to one thirty eight and the maintenance is what you're what you want to m motion at this point. [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: All right. All right. Zero second to that motion. [0:17:27, 0:17:27]: A second. [0:17:28, 0:17:42]: Uh is that who is that? The second. Okay. Now for discussion purposes, uh obviously we need to make sure that we s we stay consistent in this aspect. So that's why I asked once again, that's why I asked for that. But [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: That's right. [0:17:44, 0:17:44]: Feel me? [0:17:45, 0:17:51]: That's way down now done this. Any further discussion before we take a vote on this particular item being added to the agenda at this point? [0:17:51, 0:17:54]: I have one one thing. One question. [0:17:54, 0:17:55]: Um [0:17:56, 0:18:03]: Look this is to Mr. Knighton. Mr. Knighton, why was this not on the agenda? Is there we do we not have all the information ready to go on it? [0:18:04, 0:18:23]: or or what the case may be because if it's not ready, I don't want us to go round around today if we were not prepared for it today. So can you tell us what's going on with that? Right. This item was not on the agenda, was not listed on the agenda. It is an item that had been um circulated via email previously several weeks ago. [0:18:24, 0:18:28]: About the potential of um mowing and and and [0:18:28, 0:18:32]: a litter pickup on a section of uh state road one thirty eight [0:18:33, 0:18:36]: From I seventy five to Mount Zion Parkway. [0:18:37, 0:18:42]: Um the cost estimate is just over seven thousand dollars. I can get the exact here in just a moment. [0:18:43, 0:18:46]: just over seven thousand dollars. It is an area that is an unincorporated [0:18:46, 0:18:48]: Uh Henry County. [0:18:48, 0:18:52]: Um and because it is an unincorporated Henry County. [0:18:52, 0:19:03]: Um, I did not want to arbitrarily approve such an item, even though it was under the purview of the city manager. I would want the council to provide an approval and acknowledgement. [0:19:03, 0:19:06]: Uh, due to the fact that it is not in the city of Stockbridge. [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: Jurisdiction. Okay. [0:19:08, 0:19:12]: Mayor. Mayor. Yeah, go go right ahead, Ms. Alexander. You're first. Go ahead. [0:19:12, 0:19:15]: Can you all hear me? Yeah, I've got you I've got you Blount. Stand by. [0:19:16, 0:19:20]: Ms. Smith. I simply wanna add some clarification to what this is. [0:19:21, 0:19:26]: Is that uh this uh we this is the area uh between I seventy five [0:19:27, 0:19:29]: And the Clayton County Lion. [0:19:29, 0:19:49]: It has been apparent that the commissioner has abandoned us in this particular area, uh, the holiday end. And when people drive through this particular area, they don't see that 2,000 feet, which is basically 2,000 feet of but of area outside. They see Stockbridge, they see us. They can't drive. [0:19:49, 0:19:53]: and arrive at the city of Stockbridge without entering that particular area. [0:19:54, 0:19:54]: So [0:19:55, 0:20:11]: Uh we've had several discussions I have personally with the Holiday Inn. They're totally displeased with uh the condition of the area. It has cost them business. It has certainly cost the Fairfield Inn business, which is in our city limits, because when people get off at that exit. [0:20:11, 0:20:16]: And they see what they see, litter, illegal signs, the grass overgrown. [0:20:16, 0:20:20]: Um the majority of that area is in the city limits. [0:20:21, 0:20:23]: This small portion which is about two thousand feet. [0:20:24, 0:20:29]: From uh the I seventy five exit east to the Clayton Clayton County line. [0:20:29, 0:20:31]: But point of order. [0:20:31, 0:20:48]: I thought we were just trying I was trying to make a decision on whether or not we are supposed to talk about this in general or amend the agenda. If we're gonna go ahead and vote to amend the agenda to do a discussion on this item, then I'm okay with it. But if we're not going to, then we're we're right now we're discussing it. [0:20:48, 0:20:53]: Well I it is in the it was seconded, so it was in discussion phase. Mr. Blount, you had you were next. [0:20:54, 0:20:56]: Uh w were you finished, Ms. Amazon? [0:20:56, 0:20:57]: Oh yeah. [0:20:57, 0:21:03]: Mr. Blount. [0:21:03, 0:21:09]: even uh yesterday extensively. Uh one of the things we have to look at is this this whole stretch of uh [0:21:09, 0:21:12]: Roadway is butted up against Clayton County and [0:21:13, 0:21:15]: And it comes down through Henry County. [0:21:15, 0:21:16]: And [0:21:16, 0:21:36]: At some point in time we have to stop because we're saying that a certain district doesn't want to do something, then it's not for our citizens to take that slack from the county. We're not to fund county projects because the county doesn't want to do their projects. The citizens of Stockbridge is pay taxes just like the county does. And so [0:21:36, 0:21:44]: So what needs to be had is that we need to first go through our city manager to to try to um [0:21:44, 0:21:52]: Have some leverage and talking to them about those areas. And if it doesn't work, one of the greatest things we can do is inform the citizens. [0:21:52, 0:21:58]: We're sitting here in the city of Stockbridge and our citizens should not take the slack up for anybody. [0:21:58, 0:22:03]: that doesn't want to do their job. The citizen needs to know that the thing that they need to do [0:22:03, 0:22:06]: is look at what they're not doing and we can't d [0:22:06, 0:22:09]: You don't ever see anybody false if we continue to cover them. [0:22:10, 0:22:16]: And right now we c with the taxpayers' money, I don't I'm not for covering any areas of the county like that. [0:22:17, 0:22:21]: First of all, we don't there's no intergovernment agreement in place, no IGA. [0:22:21, 0:22:41]: Nothing's in place. The only thing we're saying is we're gonna raise our hands and go over there and and and and and take the citizen city of Stockbridge money and do what the county is supposed to be doing. I'm not gonna vote for that. We we would vote to serve the citizens of Stockbridge in all kinds of ways, and that's not being good in my opinion. Not being good stewards and taxpayers. [0:22:41, 0:22:48]: money when we take money from the out from the city of stock bridge in order to surplus what the county don't want to do. [0:22:49, 0:22:51]: We weren't elected to do that. Right. [0:22:51, 0:22:52]: Uh Map Pro Tem Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:22:53, 0:22:59]: Yes. Um I responded to uh Mr. Nighting email today. [0:22:59, 0:23:01]: And first thing I said that [0:23:01, 0:23:04]: Uh, I support any beautification. [0:23:05, 0:23:08]: Uh in the city of Stockbridge and outlining area. [0:23:09, 0:23:11]: But I I raised the question [0:23:12, 0:23:13]: How much [0:23:15, 0:23:17]: How much are we going to continue? [0:23:18, 0:23:20]: To take on the responsibilities of [0:23:20, 0:23:23]: Clayton County and Henry County. [0:23:24, 0:23:28]: Uh I don't have a major problem with this, but I'm gonna say this to Mr. Knight. [0:23:28, 0:23:33]: Is is Mr. Aaron is he on Day Aaron? Is he on to Yes? [0:23:33, 0:23:34]: Okay. [0:23:34, 0:23:38]: Okay. Um see see my concern is [0:23:39, 0:23:51]: um the frontline boundaries uh in the city of stockbridge and I just want to point out um an area on North Henry across from the the Waffle House [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: Uh, where those barrels are. [0:23:53, 0:23:57]: And it's been like that for a while ever since they had uh [0:23:58, 0:24:00]: A water line break or something like that. [0:24:01, 0:24:03]: I have a problem with us. [0:24:03, 0:24:06]: Taking on responsibilities of Henry and Clayton. [0:24:07, 0:24:08]: When [0:24:09, 0:24:11]: There are areas within [0:24:11, 0:24:12]: Our frontline boundaries. [0:24:13, 0:24:16]: That we're just not taking care of. I would probably support this. [0:24:17, 0:24:20]: But I just want to go on record, uh, just to mention that. [0:24:20, 0:24:23]: Uh I it just gives me a funny feeling. [0:24:24, 0:24:27]: Ту контину, ту континюю, ту контині. [0:24:27, 0:24:30]: to take on the responsibility of Henry and Clayton. [0:24:31, 0:24:33]: And we're lacking [0:24:33, 0:24:37]: Uh on all the way from on north here in the boulevard. [0:24:37, 0:24:41]: From one thirty-eight all the way down to Rock Quarry. [0:24:41, 0:24:53]: Uh and we constantly, constantly have to ask for these areas to be taken care of. And then there's some other areas, M L King, Tide Street and these kind of things. [0:24:54, 0:25:03]: But that's the overall problem that I have with that. Um, with us continuing, you know, to to bail out. So my question and I know Mr. Aaron [0:25:04, 0:25:07]: We asked some time ago had the city [0:25:07, 0:25:11]: of Stockbridge attempted to reach out to Clayton County. [0:25:11, 0:25:13]: Uh to have some discussion about that. [0:25:14, 0:25:20]: Um I'm not gonna ask about Henry County because I know how delicate that relation is and I let Mr. Um [0:25:21, 0:25:25]: Knights ought to continue to work on that. And I know a lot of this is, you know, um [0:25:26, 0:25:30]: uh S D S type agreements and I know we can't really get into deep but [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: I just want you to know how we attempted to reach out to Clayton County. [0:25:35, 0:25:38]: Uh, you know, see what you know, see if they would [0:25:39, 0:25:45]: Just do their part. I mean and it could be just a yes or no. I know we can't get into the full discussion of that, Mr. Aaron. [0:25:47, 0:26:07]: Well, Clayton County had their uh community service workers out a couple of weeks ago. They did mow that stretch of road. Uh prior to Mr. Knighton arriving here, um Michael Harris and I met with Sterry Matthews, Mr. Stanford and um Officer Board with Clayton County concerning those areas. [0:26:07, 0:26:17]: And and their objective was that they will mow'em on their schedule, which is usually monthly. Henry County had a contract at one time, but [0:26:18, 0:26:24]: I remember a few months ago Sherry Matthews sent Mr. Knight an email saying that they would no longer take care of the portion of [0:26:24, 0:26:44]: Highway 138 that was in the city, so that's when the city assumed responsibility for that area along with this contractor. But we've had I've had several meetings with Clayton County prior to Mr. Knighton arriving here along with Sherry Matthews about that area. At one time, Ms. Matthews had said they had a contractor doing the portion of the [0:26:44, 0:26:53]: They would continue to do it in and build Stockbridge for their pro router share, but that was the last conversation I had with her. [0:26:53, 0:26:59]: I would mention if if I can Mayor and Mayor Pro Tem, who I think addressed the question. [0:26:59, 0:27:00]: And I believe [0:27:00, 0:27:07]: If if also Michael Williams has joined us on the call. Mike Williams, can you hear us? I just want to acknowledge that. [0:27:07, 0:27:12]: Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me? We got [0:27:12, 0:27:13]: Okay, thank you. [0:27:13, 0:27:17]: I wanted to mention that um I think in the past year [0:27:18, 0:27:38]: Um I've been a part of uh I know at least two conversations with Clayton County officials regarding the stretch of roadway that runs through Clayton County basically on 138, you know, obviously uh for landmark sake where the the Golden Corral is and then going through 675 and so forth. Um regarding [0:27:37, 0:27:48]: Regarding some of those areas where there was some litter and some other things that we thought were appropriate for them to address since it was in their jurisdiction. But there have been [0:27:48, 0:27:51]: Um I've been a part of at least two conversations regarding [0:27:52, 0:27:52]: All right. [0:27:53, 0:27:55]: Uh Council Walker, I'm sorry. [0:27:55, 0:27:58]: Uh just just to follow up. [0:27:58, 0:28:00]: Uh, I do recall [0:28:00, 0:28:05]: Uh, I guess a couple of months ago, um, we we looked at the [0:28:05, 0:28:07]: The contract and and and that amount. [0:28:08, 0:28:09]: Um [0:28:10, 0:28:12]: This seven [0:28:12, 0:28:15]: thousand dollars. This is in addition to [0:28:15, 0:28:17]: Well, we're already paying. [0:28:18, 0:28:20]: The contractor, is that correct? [0:28:22, 0:28:24]: Ms. Night would be correct, yes. [0:28:25, 0:28:30]: Okay, so I'm just gonna leave that question out there. Um [0:28:32, 0:28:36]: I don't know if I would support anything else that's gonna come. [0:28:36, 0:28:37]: Of us. [0:28:37, 0:28:51]: uh taking on responsibilities of of Henry County and Clayton County. But Mr. Alexander, I do understand, I do hear these comments from motorists when they get off of for a while. They thought it was Stock Bridge. [0:28:52, 0:29:03]: I've gone by I know how it look and uh I know we wanna support those businesses in the Stockbridge area there. So I I do get it, but at some point some at some point [0:29:04, 0:29:15]: Uh we just got to stop the bleeding and and try to hold folks accountable. And I think the more we talk about this, the more citizens understand, you know, we do have [0:29:16, 0:29:23]: uh two county commissioners that represent the city of Stockbridge and some way, somehow, um [0:29:23, 0:29:25]: Everybody have to be accountable. [0:29:26, 0:29:29]: All right. Ms. Gantt, please. Thank you, sir. Ms. Gantt please. [0:29:29, 0:29:35]: Thank you. Um first I wanna apologize for to for cutting Mr. Alexander off. I didn't realize we had a second motion. [0:29:36, 0:29:36]: Um [0:29:37, 0:29:39]: So let me apologize for that. But I also [0:29:39, 0:29:41]: want to [0:29:41, 0:29:42]: Um [0:29:44, 0:29:46]: Bring up the issue of [0:29:46, 0:29:50]: if it is not our responsibility. The citizens don't know [0:29:51, 0:29:54]: Whether it's Stockbridge, Clayton County. [0:29:55, 0:29:57]: Or whether or not it is [0:29:57, 0:30:00]: um Henry counties and I get that. [0:30:01, 0:30:03]: And all they want to do, they want to see it cut. [0:30:03, 0:30:08]: I want the citizens to know that the commissioner that's responsible for that is Bruce Holmes. So [0:30:09, 0:30:10]: Call'em all day long, [0:30:11, 0:30:19]: And see if we can get some results. We can't. I agree with Councilman Blount. I agree with agree with Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:30:19, 0:30:21]: We can't keep covering up. [0:30:22, 0:30:24]: for things that the county's not doing. [0:30:25, 0:30:25]: If [0:30:26, 0:30:31]: We are a part of it. If we have come to some type of agreement, then so be it. [0:30:31, 0:30:37]: Um and I I hate that because I hear it from citizens all the time and I do want a resolution. [0:30:37, 0:30:46]: I want us to mo I wish we could find somebody to volunteer just to do it or or as a community and as a whole, but [0:30:47, 0:30:53]: Um we do have to hold them accountable. So if we do do these things and it's not our responsibility. [0:30:53, 0:30:56]: My question is can we build the county for it? [0:30:58, 0:31:06]: All right, um I don't know I don't know if that's a question for you, Mr. Knighton, or if Mr. Williams can answer whether or not I bill in them in reference to those services. [0:31:06, 0:31:11]: And this aspect that probably also deals with the SDS type of stuff, I would imagine. [0:31:11, 0:31:12]: Uh [0:31:12, 0:31:13]: Yeah, so [0:31:13, 0:31:17]: I don't know if anybody's gonna be able to answer that particular question or not. Stand by, Ms. Alexander. [0:31:17, 0:31:20]: Temba, Mr. Nice. [0:31:20, 0:31:22]: Right. [0:31:22, 0:31:23]: But [0:31:23, 0:31:28]: They would be under no requirement to pay the city's bill. [0:31:28, 0:31:33]: Now maintenance rights of way are being discussed. [0:31:34, 0:31:41]: or are being discussed between um the city and the county in the context of the SDS agreement. [0:31:41, 0:31:45]: Um and and whether we would trade for instance [0:31:45, 0:31:47]: A stretch of road and [0:31:49, 0:31:49]: Oh. [0:31:50, 0:31:51]: The county could [0:31:51, 0:31:55]: Nate and another stretch of road. [0:31:59, 0:32:02]: I think Mike may be breaking up there, but [0:32:04, 0:32:10]: But what I think what he would allude to those discussions haven't been occurring, give me confidence that they would be by the past. [0:32:12, 0:32:32]: Right. I think part of what he was saying was that uh via SDS discussions, there have been talks about, you know, one stretch of roadway that may make sense for us, the city to to serve or to maintain, versus another stretch of roadway in Henry County that they would be better to maintain. And if there would be an equal [0:32:31, 0:32:38]: equal or even swap of some sort that could be worked out, um, that perhaps is a is a solution. [0:32:38, 0:32:43]: Uh but what we have before us now is of course this stretch of roadway from uh [0:32:43, 0:32:45]: Mount Zion roads six at third to seventy five. [0:32:46, 0:32:52]: All right. Mr. Alexander, this is the third time and last time, sir. Last comment. Go ahead. [0:32:53, 0:33:00]: I I just want to make it clear right now, okay. Henry County does take care of Peach Drive right now. They take care of [0:33:00, 0:33:09]: Campground Road Extension, they take care of several areas, Patrick Henry Parkway, that's inside the city limits. So it's not like they don't maintain some areas. [0:33:09, 0:33:29]: And I'm very sensitive to what Councilman Thomas had to say, which is we don't want to keep bending over backwards for these areas, but I want everybody to understand it's about economic development and driving people to our city. When folks come down that exit and they come to like all concert or our new amphitheater, they're coming right through that area. [0:33:29, 0:33:31]: And it is my personal hope. [0:33:31, 0:33:33]: The this two thousand feet. [0:33:33, 0:33:53]: will one day be in the city limits as we annex and expand the city. It should already be in the city limits. And hopefully in our comprehensive plan at some point it will be in the city limits. But let's let's do this with the hope that we're gonna move forward. But no, I don't plan on bringing anything else back, Mr. Thomas, past this point. [0:33:53, 0:33:56]: This is just the gateway that enters our city. [0:33:56, 0:33:57]: And I appreciate your support. [0:33:58, 0:34:01]: M Mr Blount, do you have some last comments here, sir? [0:34:02, 0:34:03]: Yeah, uh [0:34:04, 0:34:07]: I just want to reiterate something, is that [0:34:07, 0:34:10]: We're sitting here as a council and we're making decisions. [0:34:11, 0:34:13]: There's no RGA in place. [0:34:13, 0:34:14]: With the county. [0:34:15, 0:34:21]: Or with Clayton County, we're just raising our hand to say we're gonna take the taxpayers' money and go and do this stretch of road. [0:34:22, 0:34:22]: We [0:34:22, 0:34:27]: Because we're able to do this doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. [0:34:27, 0:34:33]: because we can raise our hands and spend the taxpayers' money doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. [0:34:34, 0:34:45]: When you look at that stretch of road and how how how many project how can we go do a stretch of road and raise our hand and stick spending taxpayers' money and no intergovernment agreement or nothing's in place with the county? [0:34:46, 0:34:48]: It's like the county don't even exist. [0:34:48, 0:34:50]: How do we raise our hands and do that? [0:34:51, 0:34:54]: What you know, when when do we stop? When do we stop? [0:34:54, 0:35:03]: Taking the procedures out of the way of what we should be doing and just raise our hand and spend the taxpayer money and hadn't even had a discussion with the county that we're even gonna be doing it. [0:35:04, 0:35:24]: No that that's nothing reciprocated back to the city for even doing this. Only thing it's doing is putting an extra layer on our budget. And remember, we don't have a city tax, it's putting an extra layer on our budget to maintain. And we haven't even talked to the county, haven't even talked to Clayton County about what we're getting ready to try to vote on tonight. It may [0:35:24, 0:35:25]: Makes no sense. [0:35:26, 0:35:26]: All right. [0:35:26, 0:35:28]: [2128.9, 2129.5]: Oh. [0:35:29, 0:35:35]: All right, Merrick Pro Tem go out of here. It's gonna be short. [0:35:35, 0:35:41]: Based on those comments, uh, Mr. Alexander, uh, that you made and and those are really valid points. [0:35:42, 0:35:43]: I do get that. [0:35:43, 0:35:46]: And and and you know, and that is my hope there. [0:35:46, 0:35:47]: Uh that [0:35:48, 0:36:02]: There will be some residual benefits uh of us doing it, as you mentioned, you know, the gateway into stock bridge, the potential of annexation. So for all of those reasons uh that you mentioned. [0:36:03, 0:36:15]: That is the reason why I you know, I will vote for this, even though I I I do have a a a a sort of a nasty taste about it. But uh those comments is what Trump um [0:36:16, 0:36:19]: Would trump my vote if I could use that word. [0:36:19, 0:36:26]: But that would be the reason why I would support is because uh I am looking at uh long range and long term. [0:36:27, 0:36:30]: Well, Miss Barber, you have your hand up. Go right ahead, ma'am. [0:36:31, 0:36:36]: It's really quick. I just wanted to make sure this is a seven thousand dollar quote annually. [0:36:36, 0:36:37]: So roughly [0:36:38, 0:36:39]: Six hundred dollars a month. [0:36:39, 0:36:40]: Just for that. [0:36:40, 0:36:42]: Area. Am I correct? [0:36:42, 0:36:44]: Mr. Nighton, can you answer that question, please? [0:36:46, 0:36:51]: Um, I don't have in front of me seven thousand one hundred and four dollars annually. Is that right, dishes? [0:36:54, 0:36:59]: I'm sorry, hold on. Seven thousand one hundred and four dollars annually, five hundred and ninety-two dollars a month. [0:36:59, 0:37:01]: is what it comes out to. [0:37:01, 0:37:04]: In addition to the to the other contract amount. [0:37:05, 0:37:06]: That's that is correct, yes. [0:37:09, 0:37:10]: Mr. Aaron, you still looking for that? [0:37:10, 0:37:11]: Definitely. [0:37:12, 0:37:12]: Yes, sir. [0:37:22, 0:37:23]: I'm still looking. [0:37:23, 0:37:29]: Seven thousand one hundred and four dollars. I think Mr. Knight's got it. Okay. I think confirmed by Mr. Knighton. [0:37:29, 0:37:31]: Yes. On that note. [0:37:31, 0:37:36]: Motion's been made, been seconded, plenty of discussion. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:37:37, 0:37:38]: One, two. [0:37:38, 0:37:39]: Three, four. [0:37:40, 0:37:41]: All polls. [0:37:42, 0:37:45]: Okay, four one, it passes. All right, then we'll move on. [0:37:46, 0:37:58]: Number next item, council consideration to award contract to TW Brown, contracting LLC. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. That vote was actually to add the item to the agenda. [0:37:59, 0:38:06]: All right, fine. I mean it was added to the agenda. Even though there was discussion. Okay. Yes, that's what that vote was. Okay, fine. [0:38:07, 0:38:13]: All okay. We add it to the agenda. Need a motion to accept this mo this promotion. Make a motion, please. So moved. [0:38:13, 0:38:16]: No, it has been. I was just making the note. [0:38:17, 0:38:23]: That this will be item number four on the agenda. Okay, item number four it is. So be it. Well [0:38:24, 0:38:24]: Thank you. [0:38:26, 0:38:34]: Unless they want to talk about it now, unless you want to we might as well get it out the way now. We're on it. No need to come back. Okay. No need to come back. I need to move. All right. There's a second. [0:38:35, 0:38:39]: I second. There we go. No further discussion. We had all that. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:38:40, 0:38:42]: All right, four. I'll pose. [0:38:43, 0:38:54]: One. All right. Four one. Thank you. No problem. Keep keep it straight, uh clerk. All right. Now thank you. Council consideration to award contract to TW Brown contracting LLC. [0:38:54, 0:39:06]: For the parking lot expansion at Reeves Creek Trail and amount of 59,461 and two cents. Funding source is three four seven-six two two zero zero-five four one two one. [0:39:07, 0:39:08]: One. [0:39:08, 0:39:13]: ITB twenty twenty dash zero zero seven. Miss Miller, Mr. Aaron, please. [0:39:14, 0:39:20]: Good afternoon. Once again, Mayor and Council. The procurement division is requesting approval to award a fixed contract. [0:39:20, 0:39:24]: to the lowest responsive responsible bidder T W Brown contracting. [0:39:25, 0:39:25]: L C [0:39:26, 0:39:37]: ITB number 202007 for the City of Stockbridge Reef Creek Trail Parking Lot Expansion in the total amount of$59,461.02. [0:39:38, 0:39:42]: Okay. Any further any questions for Ms. Miller over this issue? [0:39:43, 0:39:44]: No quite go ahead, sir. [0:39:45, 0:39:48]: Yeah, but m Mr. Br uh Alexander, you were you're first. [0:39:49, 0:40:09]: I just wanted uh maybe a Mr. Knighton could talk about or maybe Mr. Aaron could talk about the benefit of what we're doing. I know right now we all talked about the citizens may not know. You know, everybody who sees that parking lot jam-packed all the time will understand that trails and past are the way to the future, and what we're trying to do is [0:40:09, 0:40:27]: is complete our master trail program with hopes of adding trails down uh Flippin' Road and Walt Stevens Road. If you ever been over to uh Clayton International and you see the beautiful job that they have done with those uh trails over at the international area. [0:40:27, 0:40:33]: That is uh best in class and quality of life uh for our particular community. So [0:40:33, 0:40:53]: This is n this is one of the steps as we move forward to complete the master trail plan and have uh you know trail heads that they call them or rest areas or stops between trail segments. So hopefully at some point when we increase this as it starts to grow and we extend it, there'll be other areas. [0:40:53, 0:41:13]: areas similar to this and maybe this will be a model. I know we had previously discussed adding a restroom at some of these particular stops as well. So hopefully in the future that'll be something we could do. But I would like uh you know maybe to understand or maybe the one of the staff to explain to the public, maybe I just did to about what just [0:41:13, 0:41:16]: uh the uh benefits of what we're doing here. [0:41:18, 0:41:19]: Mr. Nine, you got it, sir? [0:41:20, 0:41:31]: Well, and I'll allow this other staff and will skip to speak to this as well. I think Councilman Alexander did uh thoroughly uh summarize it. In essence, it will create additional parking spaces there at the trailhead. [0:41:32, 0:41:52]: and allow for uh obviously other people to to come uh park their vehicles and take advantage of the trail. Obviously we are um the council has already approved of course um the improvement um substantial improvement of the Reeves Creek uh trail uh that will uh continue to benefit the citizens [0:41:52, 0:42:11]: Stockbridge and create linkages to you know our park uh and and hopefully uh an entire park system uh in the future. This would uh be a component of that, just creating increasing parking spaces uh so that more people can uh come and enjoy the benefits and recreate uh on our trail. [0:42:11, 0:42:12]: And enjoy the trailhead as well. [0:42:13, 0:42:27]: Excuse me, I'm sorry. One one more if I could follow up. Go ahead, Ms. Alexander. Mr. Knighton, the trails have been closed, so the public is not aware of what is going on and that maybe we should remind them that all of the bridges are being replaced. [0:42:27, 0:42:39]: at Reed's Creek Trail for their safety and the enhancement of that trail. So when they do reopen, there will be new bridges uh there to correct that ice or or that safety hazard that we had in the past. [0:42:39, 0:42:45]: Right, and of course the council approved this, um approved the project um um a few months ago in [0:42:46, 0:43:06]: Um everything has come together. The it's in the contractor's hands um to begin that process of construction. Obviously the bridges um have to will be of a composite material, if I'm saying that right, for uh the public works official and engineer who's on here. Um that would be more sustainable than the uh existing. [0:43:05, 0:43:08]: Wooden bridges, essentially wooden bridges that we have there now. [0:43:09, 0:43:29]: They would last a lot longer, provide uh better uh safety features, and uh make this you know a top-notch uh cutting-edge trail, which obviously has been extremely popular already. And so this will enhance uh the trail experience that citizens uh will receive uh uh on Reeves. [0:43:29, 0:43:30]: Creek Trail. [0:43:30, 0:43:37]: Okay, any other comments from the council? Yeah, go right ahead, the council this Blount. How many parking spaces additionally this is gonna add? [0:43:38, 0:43:40]: I think it's I'm in additional parking spaces. [0:43:40, 0:43:41]: Is it ten? [0:43:41, 0:43:42]: And [0:43:43, 0:43:44]: It's it is ten. [0:43:44, 0:43:52]: It is ten. That maximizes the area that outside of the uh uh small uh athletic area that's been added to that park. [0:43:54, 0:43:54]: Okay. [0:43:55, 0:43:56]: Any other questions? [0:43:57, 0:44:00]: If not in a motion to accept this particular proposal. [0:44:03, 0:44:03]: A motion. [0:44:04, 0:44:05]: No a motion, please. [0:44:06, 0:44:07]: Саму [0:44:07, 0:44:08]: Zero second. [0:44:09, 0:44:10]: [2650.4, 2652.1]: May May uh Mayor Putin Tom second it. [0:44:12, 0:44:14]: I would imagine no more discussion. [0:44:15, 0:44:18]: If that is the case, then all in favor of the motion, please indicate one. [0:44:19, 0:44:19]: Two [0:44:20, 0:44:20]: Three. [0:44:21, 0:44:21]: Four. [0:44:22, 0:44:25]: Five, unanimous. Fantastic. Thank you very much. [0:44:25, 0:44:27]: The next we had up the deals with the um [0:44:28, 0:44:31]: But actually the I added uh [0:44:31, 0:44:42]: Item uh deals with the supporting HP four uh was it four twenty-six hate crime resolution in a sense. Uh Mr. Williams, did you want to read that to everybody or highlight that? [0:44:43, 0:44:50]: So I can give a quick highlight. Um basically uh there's legislation in the Georgia General Assembly. [0:44:51, 0:44:54]: that uh adds additional um [0:44:54, 0:45:09]: uh elements to our criminal code so that whenever there's a crime that where uh aspects of either some sort of hate or bigotry are a part of it, layered on top of that would be additional penalties. [0:45:10, 0:45:15]: And so that uh it's my understanding is passed. The house is current currently pending [0:45:15, 0:45:17]: In the Senate, the Georgia General Assembly [0:45:18, 0:45:20]: So this resolution basically [0:45:21, 0:45:21]: Uh [0:45:21, 0:45:23]: just encourages the uh [0:45:24, 0:45:28]: General Assembly to proceed with passage of that legislation. [0:45:29, 0:45:31]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Question for Mr. Williams, please. [0:45:32, 0:45:34]: Um go ahead, Alexander. [0:45:34, 0:45:37]: The right lies matter. [0:45:37, 0:45:39]: Black lives matter. [0:45:40, 0:45:44]: Okay, absolutely. [0:45:44, 0:45:47]: We are social uh we are [0:45:47, 0:45:52]: Birthplace of the uh social justice and civil rights movement. [0:45:52, 0:45:55]: Is it extremely important that we speak to this subject? [0:45:56, 0:45:57]: Well Ahmad Aber. [0:45:58, 0:46:00]: For George Floyd. [0:46:00, 0:46:02]: Portray Von Martin. [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: From Bjornna Taylor. [0:46:04, 0:46:05]: Pro Sandra Bland. [0:46:06, 0:46:08]: And all of those who have been affected. [0:46:09, 0:46:16]: It is a shame that the state of Georgia is one of only four states in the entire United States that does not have a hate crimes law. [0:46:17, 0:46:27]: And we need to do everything possible to encourage the state of Georgia to move forward and do the right thing and make sure that everybody in this state understands. [0:46:28, 0:46:30]: The black lives matter. [0:46:30, 0:46:33]: Outstanding. Okay. Anybody else have any comments, please? [0:46:33, 0:46:34]: Mr Blount, please go right in. [0:46:35, 0:46:36]: We we um [0:46:37, 0:46:39]: When when talking to uh [0:46:40, 0:46:46]: Mr. Douglas, which which they passed it in the house and uh and I think Brian Strickland was on that uh [0:46:46, 0:46:48]: That uh um [0:46:49, 0:46:52]: Symposium call. He's a senator stripping senator, sir. [0:46:52, 0:47:01]: Sen I'm sorry, Senator Bryant Strickland. I said it and it passed the House. Uh is there any has it has anybody talked uh Mr. Williams, maybe you can answer this. [0:47:01, 0:47:13]: Has anything been presented when they come back in session that's that will put it back in this session? Or is it something that uh hadn't even been brought to the floor? Uh that that's not even in the hopper for the floor. It's in the hopper, I guess, but it's not even been uh [0:47:14, 0:47:15]: It's still [0:47:15, 0:47:20]: It is still pending, um, but with the general assembly session being [0:47:21, 0:47:34]: uh cut short based on this COVID nineteen. I don't know when they will come back in session, but it could still be passed in this session. Um, but nothing has been presented to them from the city of Stockbridge to date on this legislation. [0:47:35, 0:47:43]: Yep. They they'll I think they're coming back in session like within a couple of weeks. June fifteenth, I believe. I thought it was June fifteenth. June fifteenth. Is it [0:47:43, 0:47:53]: about another week. But within a week. Yeah, so they they're getting ready to come back in session, but my question is has this be uh what because it is an election year for several senators [0:47:54, 0:48:01]: uh on that on uh for this bill to even be presented or whatever is uh do we know of anything that uh will this bill be presented? [0:48:02, 0:48:04]: By the Senate, on the Senate side. [0:48:05, 0:48:10]: I don't have any I don't have any information on that beyond what's been presented to you already. [0:48:11, 0:48:20]: Well, I would think that uh upon approval and signature of this, we just talk have to talk to the Henry County delegation on on trying to help push this thing through, if that's the case. [0:48:20, 0:48:21]: Okay. [0:48:21, 0:48:25]: All right. Well we'll try it. We uh it's worth a try. Anyway. [0:48:25, 0:48:27]: If no the comments, okay. [0:48:28, 0:48:33]: I need a m uh motion to accept this resolution. I second. [0:48:33, 0:48:35]: Second and again second. Okay. [0:48:35, 0:48:37]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:48:38, 0:48:40]: One, two, three, four. Unanimous decision. Great. Fantastic. [0:48:41, 0:48:41]: All right. [0:48:42, 0:48:44]: Uh my particular comments deal with first of all [0:48:45, 0:48:53]: Complete the complete 2020 census. Individual citizens, council, if you have not done the 2020 census, please go to the website. [0:48:53, 0:49:12]: 2020 census.gov. Extremely important to fill out the census. And I hope that uh by the time this is all done, the Stockbridge may be about thirty-four thousand people, but we'll see. All right. We gotta fill it out. Primary election is tomorrow. If you haven't already early voted, primary election is tomorrow. It's very important. [0:49:13, 0:49:15]: You go to your regular polling location. [0:49:15, 0:49:23]: All right. Except for the individuals at Red Oak Church. If you have if you normally go to Red Oak Church, not do no don't do don't do that tomorrow. [0:49:23, 0:49:26]: You go to Red Oak Elementary School tomorrow. I said Red Oak Church, okay? [0:49:27, 0:49:28]: So you gotta do that. Go vote. [0:49:29, 0:49:40]: COVID 19 Public Health Um Department, once again 800-847-4262. 800-847-4262. You have to continue to be safe. [0:49:40, 0:49:52]: Uh uh vaccination for the for this virus is not is in the works. We may not get it for another six months. So wearing uh protective covering, uh social distancing six feet may go on for several more months. [0:49:52, 0:49:56]: And I'll tell you, you gotta be continuing to be careful and wash your hands and be safe. [0:49:57, 0:50:15]: Uh now we had a great activity on Saturday where we gave a thousand packets to citizens at Merrill Manor Conference Center for a three hour period that dealt with face coverings, face masks, hand sanitizer and information from the CDC in reference to COVID nineteen so we can uh help you be safe. And I'll imagine if this is gonna go on for quite a time. [0:50:15, 0:50:19]: quite a while, I imagine we'll we'll probably end up doing something like this again, I'm pretty sure. [0:50:20, 0:50:20]: Okay. [0:50:21, 0:50:24]: So on that note, uh have some upcoming meetings. [0:50:24, 0:50:29]: And now let me double check this. I have here development downtown development authority meeting. [0:50:30, 0:50:32]: Tuesday, June sixteenth, does that still go? [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: Yeah. [0:50:36, 0:50:49]: From my standard it's still though, yes. Okay, so lo says to be determined. So work out that particular location time frame and a planning commission meeting is here Thursday, June twenty fifth at six o'clock, to be determined. [0:50:49, 0:50:50]: Is that Miss Moore's uh [0:50:51, 0:50:55]: Still it's a go. Okay. Off okay on on the twenty fifth. All right. [0:50:55, 0:51:09]: Our next council work session will be Tuesday, June 23rd, 6 p.m. I would imagine it's gonna be by way of Zoom. And our next council meeting next month will be July 13th, 6 p.m. And I'm assuming unless the council changes this, it'll be by Zoom as well. [0:51:10, 0:51:14]: On that note, uh folks be good. Keep the faith. God bless y'all. [0:51:14, 0:51:15]: And good night. [0:51:18, 0:51:23]: Oh wait a minute, I gotta ask for a motion to adjust. Okay, a motion to adjourn. Hey, I need a motion to adjourn. [0:51:23, 0:51:25]: Excuse me. [0:51:26, 0:51:27]: Don't move. [0:51:27, 0:51:28]: A second. [0:51:28, 0:51:29]: Is there a second? [0:51:30, 0:51:31]: A second. [0:51:31, 0:51:36]: Oh there we go. Oh good Gantt the can't spoke. Okay, good deal. Now all in favor of attorney. [0:51:37, 0:51:41]: So you keep me straight. All right. Now, God bless you all. Good night. Good night. [0:51:41, 0:51:43]: Good night. Good night. Good night. Good night. [0:51:44, 0:51:45]: Mm. [0:52:01, 0:52:03]: I don't know why I can't get out of here now. What's going on?

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[0:02:24, 0:02:28]: Vanessa, I don't see any non city attendees. [0:02:37, 0:02:41]: The invite was placed out on the web on Facebook. [0:03:09, 0:03:12]: So Eugene still has your machine, Vanessa? Yes, he does. [0:03:12, 0:03:12]: Okay. [0:04:04, 0:04:07]: Mike, just for the record, I'm showing ten participants. [0:04:09, 0:04:14]: Are those panelists or or attendees? Because I see the I see us ten. [0:04:16, 0:04:17]: But I don't see any [0:04:17, 0:04:18]: Anybody who's not [0:04:19, 0:04:20]: part of the government. [0:04:23, 0:04:26]: Just no one to say we didn't we couldn't access the meeting. [0:04:27, 0:04:33]: Yeah, there appears to be a technical issue here. I was talking to Shana just on the phone right now. [0:04:34, 0:04:38]: Um the meeting it's saying the meeting's starting. It hasn't started. [0:04:39, 0:04:40]: Okay. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Is [0:04:42, 0:04:46]: Yeah, I know people are trying to get on, they can't get on. Right, right. [0:04:46, 0:04:47]: They're saying the webinar will [0:04:48, 0:04:53]: So it's not straight it's not we can't see Zoom. It just it just went through the prompt. [0:04:54, 0:04:56]: Okay. Vanessa said it just went through the prompt. Okay. [0:05:09, 0:05:11]: If anybody can hear me, I can't hear anyone. [0:05:12, 0:05:14]: Okay. Well I can hear you. [0:05:15, 0:05:16]: Camilla? [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: Yeah, I can hear you. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: Can you hear? [0:05:31, 0:05:32]: Camilla. [0:05:37, 0:05:37]: Hello. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: Can you hear me, Mrs. Holliday? [0:05:41, 0:05:42]: I see a black screen. [0:05:43, 0:05:44]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:44, 0:05:46]: I can hear you there. [0:05:46, 0:05:48]: All right, thank you. [0:05:49, 0:05:50]: Nice. [0:05:57, 0:06:01]: Camilla Eugene wants you to test your screen share to make sure it's working. [0:06:08, 0:06:11]: Enter your participant ID followed by sound. [0:06:11, 0:06:12]: Otherwise. [0:06:16, 0:06:22]: You have entered the meeting as a panelist. Attendees can now hear you speak. This meeting is being recorded. [0:06:24, 0:06:25]: [391.7, 392.7]: [0:06:46, 0:06:48]: What are we doing, by the way? [0:06:50, 0:06:50]: Camilla. [0:06:51, 0:06:56]: Yes. I had to dial in by the phone'cause the speaker wasn't working. Okay, got it. [0:07:02, 0:07:04]: Okay, so Vanessa [0:07:04, 0:07:09]: You uh are you ready or you still have your machine? I'm ready. Um this is just [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: In regards to the [0:07:11, 0:07:16]: Amphitheater and presentation being shared, but other than that. [0:07:18, 0:07:18]: We're ready to go. [0:07:19, 0:07:26]: Okay, so everybody, if I may, can we hold on for one second? I just want to make sure that [0:07:26, 0:07:34]: Whatever connection the public has access to is operational. I'm not sure at the moment that it is. All right. So be it. [0:07:35, 0:07:35]: We'll stand by. [0:07:41, 0:07:42]: Yeah for [0:07:42, 0:07:43]: Yes. [0:07:43, 0:07:44]: Can you hear me, ma'am? [0:07:44, 0:07:47]: Uh absolutely sir. I got you. Mayor Pro Tem. [0:07:47, 0:07:48]: All right. [0:08:03, 0:08:06]: Mm-hmm. [0:08:29, 0:08:37]: Is there a reason that the chat is off? So if I'm trying to talk to one of you guys privately, I can't chat right now. Is there a reason? [0:08:37, 0:08:42]: Well, d as a public meeting we don't do that in a a normal public setting. [0:08:44, 0:08:45]: Right. [0:08:48, 0:08:56]: But if I'm trying to chat about some technical difficulty, I'll type a note or a message. I'm just saying we we're not able to chat. [0:08:58, 0:09:08]: The chair was turned off because during a normal public meeting, participants are not allowed to interact with the mayor and council. That's why it was turned off. [0:09:09, 0:09:14]: So you you you can use your text, your just regular phone text if you need to. [0:09:14, 0:09:15]: Okay. [0:09:16, 0:09:23]: So I logged in as like a regular member of the public. I don't know if you can see that, but it's [0:09:25, 0:09:26]: All right. [0:09:39, 0:09:46]: So Mr. Knighton, we're waiting for uh Eugene to confirm the about the presentation. Is that what it is? [0:09:50, 0:09:53]: Oh, I see. Okay. [0:09:54, 0:09:54]: No. [0:09:57, 0:09:58]: That's not it every day. [0:10:05, 0:10:05]: Yeah. [0:10:08, 0:10:08]: Yeah. [0:10:24, 0:10:25]: Oh. [0:10:52, 0:11:05]: All right. Hello, Mayor Ford. I think there was an issue, an issue with the Facebook part of it, Facebook Live, but people can go on our website and they can view this as a live stream. They can go on our website and view it as a live stream according to [0:11:05, 0:11:06]: our IT personnel. [0:11:08, 0:11:08]: Yes. [0:11:10, 0:11:10]: Okay. [0:11:11, 0:11:12]: Okay. [0:11:13, 0:11:20]: So they they should put a notice on Facebook. [0:11:22, 0:11:27]: Just put a notice on Facebook and do that. [0:11:30, 0:11:39]: Okay. Um Mr. Williams is just wanting to make sure that we have something out there for the public to know where the streaming is going to be available. [0:11:46, 0:11:47]: No. [0:11:48, 0:11:48]: Okay. [0:11:50, 0:11:52]: Okay, he's watching it right now. Okay, thank you. [0:12:00, 0:12:06]: I swear to you. If you shared the link off of the f off of the website on the Facebook page, it would actually show up. [0:12:12, 0:12:13]: All right. [0:12:16, 0:12:18]: So I have six ten now. Are you good to go or? [0:12:20, 0:12:22]: Six eleven actually. Ready? [0:12:22, 0:12:24]: Ready. Okay. Well on that note then. [0:12:25, 0:12:31]: Tuesday, April 28th. This is our council work session. I'd like to call the meeting in order, and I have six eleven. [0:12:32, 0:12:36]: On that note, Mr. Mighton, can you please give your location? [0:12:37, 0:12:38]: All right. [0:12:38, 0:12:41]: If everyone can join me for a word of prayer. [0:12:42, 0:12:46]: Most gracious God, we thank you for this day. We thank you for your blessings and [0:12:47, 0:12:49]: We thank you for your holy presence. [0:12:49, 0:12:54]: In our lives, we thank you for the opportunity to assemble together. [0:12:55, 0:13:00]: In this virtual format, to connect to the citizens of the city of Stockbridge and to carry on. [0:13:01, 0:13:05]: Very important matters of our great city. We pray your blessing. [0:13:05, 0:13:09]: Upon the people of Stockbridge, our state, our nation, and our world. [0:13:10, 0:13:14]: We pray for the wisdom of those in leadership positions as they [0:13:14, 0:13:18]: Are tasked with making very serious and important decisions. [0:13:19, 0:13:21]: At each level of government. [0:13:21, 0:13:26]: We ask your blessing upon us this evening, and may you guide us with your wisdom. [0:13:27, 0:13:30]: It is in your son Christ's name we pray. [0:13:30, 0:13:36]: Amen. Amen. Okay. Now for the pleasure, we're all stand. All right. Everybody stand, please. [0:13:39, 0:13:47]: Here I'll go. Three, two, one, a pledge allegiance allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. [0:13:47, 0:13:50]: And two republic for which it stands. [0:13:50, 0:13:52]: Well I think [0:13:52, 0:13:53]: Uh look uh [0:13:54, 0:13:55]: Indivisible. [0:13:55, 0:13:59]: With liberty justice and justice for all. [0:14:00, 0:14:01]: You don't know how to make [0:14:01, 0:14:03]: That was a little better there. [0:14:03, 0:14:05]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: Mayor Ford. [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: Present. [0:14:09, 0:14:11]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Present. [0:14:12, 0:14:13]: Councilman Alexander. [0:14:14, 0:14:16]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:14:17, 0:14:18]: Councilman Blind. [0:14:19, 0:14:20]: Res [0:14:20, 0:14:21]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:14:22, 0:14:25]: Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:14:25, 0:14:26]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate that. [0:14:27, 0:14:30]: Uh council, I need a a motion to accept the agenda, please. [0:14:31, 0:14:31]: Remove. [0:14:32, 0:14:33]: So a second. [0:14:33, 0:14:34]: I second. [0:14:34, 0:14:35]: All favor please indicate. [0:14:38, 0:14:39]: All hands are up. [0:14:41, 0:14:42]: Okay. [0:14:43, 0:14:48]: Um I have here next would be the approval of the following minutes. We have a uh [0:14:49, 0:14:51]: Council meeting was was February uh tenth. [0:14:52, 0:14:56]: We have the actual council retreats of February seventeenth. [0:14:57, 0:14:58]: Eighteenth and nineteenth. [0:15:00, 0:15:03]: We have a council work session, which is on the twenty fifth of February. [0:15:03, 0:15:08]: And we just recently had a special call meeting on the twenty fourth of March. [0:15:08, 0:15:20]: And so I'm looking for a motion to actually approve all these minutes since we had uh missed a meeting earlier. Uh so if you've reviewed them, they're all good. Uh a motion please. [0:15:21, 0:15:23]: Oh no. Okay, second. Second. [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:15:27, 0:15:29]: Players' hands, okay. [0:15:30, 0:15:31]: Um [0:15:32, 0:15:33]: Madam Clerk, any public comments? [0:15:34, 0:15:40]: Therefore, we do have one public comment that was submitted and actually was submitted um [0:15:40, 0:15:43]: Through Councilman Blount who forwarded it to me. [0:15:44, 0:15:46]: And I'll read that at this time. [0:15:46, 0:15:47]: Okay. [0:15:47, 0:15:50]: Mr. Blount, this is Mrs. Randanzo. [0:15:50, 0:15:52]: Not Mr. Rendanzo. [0:15:52, 0:15:57]: I've done everything in my power to get anybody to look at logic where this is concerned. [0:15:58, 0:16:02]: No one will address the anxiety it's causing people by not pausing. [0:16:03, 0:16:05]: While people are sheltered in place. [0:16:05, 0:16:06]: It sounds [0:16:06, 0:16:10]: Лайка серий в earthquakes five or six days a week. [0:16:11, 0:16:16]: I invite you to ask the senior citizens at the end of Lee Street how bad it is. [0:16:17, 0:16:26]: Why this neighborhood has to endure this noise while we are in a world crisis is beyond my understanding of having citizens in mind. [0:16:27, 0:16:29]: It's not with us in mind. [0:16:29, 0:16:33]: I also can't get anyone to address the financial situation. [0:16:33, 0:16:36]: And the fact that it makes no sense to continue. [0:16:37, 0:16:38]: This project. [0:16:38, 0:16:43]: And we can't even walk down the street without having the police called. [0:16:43, 0:16:48]: The construction guy apparently thinks it's illegal to walk on a public sidewalk. [0:16:49, 0:17:09]: So we officially give up. We will be moving as soon as possible as we possibly can. I want to live where the nuisance ordinance applies to the municipality too, not just the citizens. I appreciate the reply, sir, and I would consider it a sign of respect to me if you would read this statement for me at the end. [0:17:09, 0:17:10]: the next meeting. [0:17:10, 0:17:12]: I would have done it myself if [0:17:12, 0:17:17]: But the last two meetings were canceled and no online comment cards were put up as we were told. [0:17:17, 0:17:19]: By Miss Holliday. [0:17:19, 0:17:21]: My concerns are valid. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: Um [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: You have to excuse me because she [0:17:28, 0:17:29]: Yep, oh, Russell. [0:17:30, 0:17:40]: Okay, my concerns are valid and I would like to see some see them entered into the minutes. Good luck to you and the teacher. Thank you for replying, Sunny Rendezzo. [0:17:41, 0:17:46]: Okay. No private comments. Okay. Well noted and we'll follow up on that as soon as we can. [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: Okay. On that note, uh new business. [0:17:51, 0:17:56]: Council consideration to approve recertification as a Georgia Municipal Association City of Ethics. [0:17:56, 0:17:58]: Mr. Williams, please. [0:17:58, 0:18:01]: Good evening, everyone. The uh [0:18:02, 0:18:07]: agenda item you have before you is r is merely an adoption of the resolution that is [0:18:08, 0:18:12]: prepared by the Georgia Municipal Association adopting [0:18:12, 0:18:17]: The five principles uh of ethics that uh they have established. [0:18:17, 0:18:22]: The the city council was previously adopted essentially the identical resolution. [0:18:23, 0:18:28]: uh the last time we were certified as a city of ethics. And so this is just a recertification. [0:18:29, 0:18:35]: Um the way the process works as you probably read in your agenda packet is we have to we readopt the same resolution. [0:18:36, 0:18:38]: And we send to them uh [0:18:39, 0:18:41]: A letter requesting recertification. [0:18:42, 0:18:47]: um noting any changes in our ethics ordinance and and there are only two minor well [0:18:48, 0:18:51]: I guess two changes in our ethics ordinance. One is [0:18:52, 0:19:00]: The the model ordinance has three members and our ordinance has five members of the ethics board, which is you know, that's not really a substantive change. [0:19:01, 0:19:12]: And then we uh ad adopted the code of ethics as part of our ethics ordinance. So that's those are the only two changes. So if you all approved the resolution [0:19:12, 0:19:20]: uh we will be forwarding that to gma um requesting recertification as a city of ethics. [0:19:20, 0:19:23]: Нормаль Сидис о етикс are [0:19:23, 0:19:24]: Um [0:19:25, 0:19:29]: are honored at the GMA convention, but as you know it's it's been [0:19:30, 0:19:30]: Um [0:19:31, 0:19:35]: The it's been converted to a virtual convention this year. So I don't know how that will work. [0:19:35, 0:19:44]: But in any event, we will uh as assuming you all approve this, we will forward everything to GMA and hopefully be recertified fairly quickly. [0:19:45, 0:20:00]: Okay, Mike. Go ahead, sir. I'm sorry. With with that, Mike, you're right. As I read that, it indicated that it need to get to GMA by the thirtieth, which is in two days from now. And if that's still the case, uh as I saw that, it seemed like everybody on the council would need to sign that as well. [0:20:00, 0:20:05]: So if that's the case, we'll have to coordinate people signing this and getting off to them as soon as possible. [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: Uh to GMA. [0:20:08, 0:20:09]: Okay. [0:20:09, 0:20:12]: All right. I don't know any questions anybody has at all? [0:20:13, 0:20:16]: Thoughts, questions? If not, I need a motion to accept the resolution. [0:20:17, 0:20:18]: So move. [0:20:18, 0:20:19]: Is there a second? [0:20:19, 0:20:22]: Circuit. Okay, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:20:24, 0:20:26]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:20:27, 0:20:31]: I would imagine that's unanimous. I didn't see everybody. I imagine that it's unanimous in that aspect. [0:20:31, 0:20:32]: Okay. [0:20:32, 0:20:45]: All right, good deal. All right. On that note, um, thank you. Council consideration to support uh House Resolution sixty-four sixty seven, Corona vi uh Corona virus community relief act. Mr. Williams, please. [0:20:46, 0:20:49]: Um yes, sir. This is a um [0:20:50, 0:20:54]: uh a uh initiative at the federal level to provide [0:20:54, 0:20:56]: uh funding support to [0:20:57, 0:21:00]: Стай локал говменцак [0:21:01, 0:21:03]: And as you may have heard, the it's [0:21:03, 0:21:06]: There are various proposals on the table. [0:21:07, 0:21:08]: Um and it's kind of [0:21:09, 0:21:13]: been made into a little bit of a partisan debate. Um [0:21:13, 0:21:22]: But as late as yesterday, I believe, Senator Mitch McConnell indicated that they would be moving forward with some sort of legislation providing aid to state [0:21:22, 0:21:26]: to the states, um, to whether it includes local governments. [0:21:26, 0:21:29]: uh remains to be seen, but [0:21:29, 0:21:32]: the this would be uh [0:21:32, 0:21:36]: You mayors has already sent a letter s in support of this. [0:21:36, 0:21:39]: And this would just be a resolution from the council. [0:21:39, 0:21:50]: also issuing its support for any kind of federal aid to help local governments um in response to the uh COVID nineteen pandemic. [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: Um [0:21:51, 0:21:52]: And [0:21:52, 0:22:00]: And I'll leave it to others to speak to some of the specifics, but as I recall, that there several million dollars could be available in the form of block grants. [0:22:01, 0:22:03]: For um for Stockbridge. [0:22:04, 0:22:10]: Um and you know, the way it's couched, it c it could be used for almost anything. [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: Um but but that's [0:22:12, 0:22:17]: All that remains to be seen based on whatever the uh Congress approves down the line, but [0:22:17, 0:22:21]: I would expect there to be a round of of legislation within the next week or so. [0:22:22, 0:22:23]: Okay, thank you, sir. [0:22:23, 0:22:26]: Any comments? Go right here. Go right, please. [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: Yes, sir. I um I think this is something that would be a great idea and uh every city in America should actually support this of going through what we're going through with COVID nineteen. And I think this is something that we as a council need to entertain uh for our local business owners uh even now before [0:22:46, 0:22:52]: for the federal government acts because a lot of our business owners are in extreme pain. [0:22:52, 0:22:54]: And they may not survive this shutdown. [0:22:55, 0:22:57]: And the slowing of business because once [0:22:58, 0:23:18]: The uh shutdown is actually over, it's going to take months, weeks, months, maybe even years for business to return to normal. So for business to return until that time comes, we as a city need to step in there and we need to offer some form of assistance to our citizens. [0:23:18, 0:23:20]: Just like the city of McDonald has done. [0:23:21, 0:23:39]: Uh they've uh made uh low interest loans available uh through their DDA and this council needs to act to do something similar because as we know, uh with the unemployment situation and the stimulus, the check is in the mail for a lot of those small business owners and it just hasn't arrived yet. [0:23:40, 0:23:56]: Matter of fact, I haven't even gotten my stimulus check yet. So I don't know who ever who else hasn't gotten theirs. So for the small business owners, I talked to several of them and I know that many of them applied for the loan, never heard back from the lender, and got [0:23:57, 0:24:10]: basically to square one and that was it. So I think it's incumbent upon us to encourage Congress to move forward. But in the interim time, our city needs to step forward and offer some form of assistance just like McDonough did. [0:24:11, 0:24:13]: All right. Any other comments from anybody else? [0:24:18, 0:24:19]: Right. [0:24:19, 0:24:39]: Well I know that go go right here, sir. If I would, Miss uh Mayor Ford, I would just simply mention related to the support for local governments that um I had been in contact with um legislative council, the members of Congressman Scott's office, and I think Mayor Ford, you're on one of those calls related to absolutely support that we would seek for local governments. [0:24:39, 0:24:52]: governments um and encouraging uh Congressman uh Scott's office support, which they certainly um indicated that he uh was very supportive of. And so I would just make that comment as it relates to local government uh support. [0:24:53, 0:25:13]: And the other thing I'd like to mention, uh, I think about the small small business association uh administration, I'm sorry, I believe there's some other documentation or uh billions of dollars that are out there for individual businesses to apply for and it this on the second round of this, the third round, I guess it is, several billions of dollars. So hopefully folks are going online and looking for that and and applying for that as well. I believe I heard Merit Protect. [0:25:13, 0:25:15]: Tim Thomas, is I hear your voice, sir? [0:25:15, 0:25:18]: No, you did not. But I would say um [0:25:18, 0:25:20]: It is encouraging. [0:25:21, 0:25:33]: Um whatever assistance that we can do from the municipality, I think we need to look at that. I'm just not sure how can we uh prioritize um [0:25:33, 0:25:45]: Any funding from us, um, would it be only those businesses within the city limits of Stark Bridge? Um, would the DDA be the first line? [0:25:45, 0:25:55]: um, you know, participant with this. I I just don't know the details, but I guess if we decide to go down this route, uh, Mr. Knight, I guess we'll work these details out. [0:25:57, 0:25:59]: Mayor, Councilman Blood. Sir, go right in, please. [0:25:59, 0:26:17]: Yeah, um that was mean that that guys. One of the things that I look at when you talk about uh the businesses, well cost uh uh a lot of businesses are hurting, a lot of businesses are uh their futures uh in a place where they don't know if they're gonna be able to open back up and a lot of them gonna gonna be okay. Um [0:26:17, 0:26:37]: But for as the city of Stockbridge, I I I know that there's a lot of uncertainties even for us. Uh we have to be mindful that we don't have a city tax. We have to be mindful that our uh majority of our income comes from local option sales tax was gonna be hurting. Uh a lot of uh a lot of uncertainties there and I would like to for our city manager if you would speak to a lot of uncertainty. [0:26:37, 0:26:47]: certainties that we have as a city pertaining to assisting any businesses, but the but some of the uncertainties we have as a city that we're gonna be approaching pertaining to uh [0:26:47, 0:26:49]: Any type of financial uh [0:26:50, 0:26:53]: uh assistance or anything, just just the uncertainty we have as a city. [0:26:55, 0:27:06]: Yes, um I'll speak to that in general in terms of revenue projections uh for the remainder of the year. Um obviously one of the big mysteries uh to our economic situation at the moment. [0:27:07, 0:27:21]: is what we will receive in uh splash money, but more importantly and more significantly, uh lost local option sales tax uh revenues. Obviously a number of businesses have been impacted and the economy is in a very uncertain place at the moment. [0:27:22, 0:27:26]: And I've spoken to some of my colleagues uh throughout the metro area, other city managers who [0:27:27, 0:27:39]: are on fiscal year budgets, meaning they start July first. And I have heard from some who are modifying their revenue projections going into the next fiscal year because of the uncertainty and the expectation. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: uh that uh revenues um will be [0:27:44, 0:27:52]: Um uh significantly reduced um you know in the next few months. We obviously won't know what that looks like uh for a few months. [0:27:52, 0:28:02]: But um you know we have obviously a number of responsibilities providing core services uh to our citizens, uh even during this pandemic stage. [0:28:02, 0:28:06]: And obviously a number of other uh projects that we're working on, but [0:28:06, 0:28:18]: The uncertainty of the uh economic uh and financial standpoint, I think, gives all of us pause and reason to uh be very conservative in how we approach. [0:28:18, 0:28:22]: uh matters expenditures uh here in the future [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: All right. [0:28:24, 0:28:28]: Any other comments at all? The council? Certainly. [0:28:30, 0:28:30]: Go ahead. [0:28:31, 0:28:51]: Okay. Uh yes, I want to make it clear what I'm referring to is uh having the DDA or the Citywide uh Development Authority once constituted take the lead and offer uh even low interest loans to these uh businesses as because it would be difficult for them to obtain [0:28:51, 0:29:02]: Credit when the market is tightening in such a way as it is now. So for instance, a business could not access a line of credit through [0:29:02, 0:29:14]: the traditional channels, they would be able to access uh low interest loans as a business owner in the city limits, as uh Mr. Thomas indicated. And maybe Mr. Williams can speak on that as well. [0:29:16, 0:29:28]: Well, Mr. Mayor, uh the before I comment on that, I just wanna make it clear we're talking about two separate things. Uh the agenda item is really calling for a resolution in support of [0:29:28, 0:29:40]: any sort of federal assistance to state and local governments. And then the second issue would be uh the issue raised by Councilman Alexander whether or not um the council wishes to [0:29:40, 0:29:45]: uh explore working with the DDA or development authorities the case may be. [0:29:45, 0:29:48]: To provide assistance to businesses um [0:29:48, 0:29:59]: The uh the city of McDonald, as he indicated, they have done that. Um they're fairly small loans and I I don't remember the the the maximum amount, but I wanna say it was about two or three thousand dollars. [0:29:59, 0:30:01]: Um mounds um [0:30:01, 0:30:10]: to businesses within the uh downtown development area of of McDonough. You know, that that's a policy question. It it's something that [0:30:11, 0:30:18]: You can explore, but as as um Mr. Knighton indicated, you know, we we don't know what our revenues are looking like. [0:30:18, 0:30:21]: Um this is that rainy day that [0:30:22, 0:30:24]: you always worry about when you're trying to build [0:30:24, 0:30:26]: Your your um [0:30:27, 0:30:33]: your fund balance um for for cases exactly like this where we don't know what our revenues are gonna be. [0:30:33, 0:30:40]: for months down the line. Um so unlike most cities in the state of Georgia, we are in a very [0:30:41, 0:30:52]: decent um position to weather the storm. Um, but y you do want to be somewhat cautious before you incur any new expenditures so you have a better idea of what your revenues are going to look like. [0:30:53, 0:31:13]: Okay, thank you for that. On that note then I would imagine that we need to make sure we handle what's on actually on the agenda in this aspect for the first piece and then on the second piece in reference to individual loans or s for businesses, maybe that's something that needs to be discussed further, uh, whether in this venue or or some other venue or some other conversation in the course of uh [0:31:13, 0:31:33]: the near future here. So on that note, uh like to go back to accepting, even though I've already drafted up a letter uh but in a reference to this, but uh on the federal side of the house. So I guess in essence the motion for a resolution to follow up with the I'd like to make a motion to approve uh this as recommended in the letter that you have crafted. [0:31:33, 0:31:38]: encouraging Congress to uh take care of our small business zones, so to speak. [0:31:38, 0:31:39]: All right, I need a second. [0:31:40, 0:31:41]: A second. [0:31:41, 0:31:42]: Any further discussion? [0:31:43, 0:31:44]: And if not all in favor, please indicate. [0:31:45, 0:31:46]: Okay. [0:31:46, 0:31:49]: Is that everybody? All right, good deal. Yes, sir. [0:31:50, 0:32:10]: Uh before you move to the next item, let me be clear on on my comments. Um I will only be interested in providing some assistance through whatever resources that we're able to tap in on the on the federal level. Uh as uh Mr. Nyon and Councilman Blount and Ms. Mr. William indicated. [0:32:11, 0:32:14]: I don't think it would be uh prudent of us to [0:32:14, 0:32:31]: tap into um our financial coffers. I don't I I think we'll have to wait on that part, but whatever resources f uh or aid from the uh federal government, yeah, I think we should get in that lane, but I just wanted to clarify my comments. [0:32:31, 0:32:32]: Okay, appreciate it. [0:32:32, 0:32:36]: I'll tell you what, we'll probably end up taking this up just a little bit later. So let's move on to discussion. [0:32:37, 0:32:41]: Amphitheater construction update presented by Mr. Knight and Camilla Moore, please. [0:32:42, 0:32:45]: Uh madam clerk, I'm gonna see if this works. [0:32:48, 0:32:49]: It does. Can everyone see? [0:32:50, 0:32:52]: Okay, got it. Outstanding. Uh-huh. [0:32:53, 0:32:54]: And everyone can hear. [0:32:54, 0:32:55]: Absolutely. [0:32:56, 0:33:02]: Okay. Good evening, Mary Council. We're just gonna go through a brief update on where we are on the amphitheater. [0:33:02, 0:33:06]: Of course, for those of you that have gone by, you can see [0:33:06, 0:33:10]: that there's a lot of work going on. As a matter of fact, we should be actually going vertical this week. [0:33:11, 0:33:14]: So this is just gonna be a brief synopsis of kind of where we are. [0:33:15, 0:33:19]: Um, if at any point in any pace that I go to, if you wanna ask some questions then just [0:33:20, 0:33:23]: Let me know and interrupt and I will provide an answer. [0:33:23, 0:33:30]: Of course, here's your management team. Uh I act as um the overall project manager with Charles Abbott TSW. [0:33:30, 0:33:33]: H. J. Russell and Falcon a design. [0:33:34, 0:33:39]: Uh those are the folks we meet every Wednesday and we're actually overseeing the project every day. [0:33:39, 0:33:44]: In terms of what this presentation is going to present to you, just a general information. [0:33:45, 0:33:56]: If we've talked about safety, whether or not we're compliant with COVID nineteen in terms of uh guidelines as it relates to construction, the inclement weather days, site layout and activity. [0:33:56, 0:34:01]: activity and schedules, the site progress as of April the twenty second, twenty twenty. [0:34:02, 0:34:04]: And some area photos for you to look at. [0:34:09, 0:34:12]: In terms of can you guys see this or do I need to make it a little bit bigger? [0:34:13, 0:34:14]: I can see it. Fine. [0:34:15, 0:34:16]: You good? Okay. [0:34:16, 0:34:20]: Uh as you know, the amphitheater is actually a two phase project. [0:34:20, 0:34:23]: Uh phase one which deals with the building site. [0:34:24, 0:34:27]: It deals with uh a part of the parking in the back. [0:34:27, 0:34:31]: Uh and it also deal with the green room, concession stands and restrooms. [0:34:32, 0:34:33]: uh phase two [0:34:33, 0:34:37]: deals with the actual parking, uh the passive park. [0:34:37, 0:34:40]: and other amenities that go into phase two. [0:34:41, 0:34:45]: Phase one is nine point six acres, phase two is approximately seven. [0:34:45, 0:34:51]: Uh during the month of January, uh, we removed a lot of trees. We installed erosion control measures. [0:34:52, 0:35:01]: Uh, we did a lot of fencing. We had to do some additional trench dig digging because we had a lot of water. It felt like North flood, but we had a lot of water, so we had to come back [0:35:01, 0:35:04]: And to mitigate some of the water runoff. [0:35:04, 0:35:12]: Uh we did demolitions of existing structures that was on site, the old baseball uh dugouts, any wooden structures we removed. [0:35:12, 0:35:24]: And also we've been dealing with the geo technical services every day. So we go out and we do as many borings as we can to determine the soil composition, whether or not it's suitable soils or unsuitable soil walls. [0:35:25, 0:35:29]: so that we can take the appropriate steps to move forward. Um [0:35:29, 0:35:37]: Finally, um excuse me. Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, Miss Moore. If you could make that just a little bit larger, maybe for [0:35:37, 0:35:39]: The viewing public possible. [0:35:43, 0:35:47]: Is that better and I can just scroll down some. Is that good? Or larger? [0:35:50, 0:35:50]: Does that be anything? [0:35:53, 0:35:55]: Yes, that's fine. That's fine. Yes, that's fine. [0:35:57, 0:36:05]: Okay. Um finally just want to update Mary Council on our exploration of whether or not uh there are any burial sites. [0:36:05, 0:36:08]: uh on the particular development site. [0:36:08, 0:36:12]: We have finished the analysis on phase one. [0:36:12, 0:36:18]: We actually hired a mapping company and believe it or not, we got us a national acclaim archaeologist. [0:36:18, 0:36:22]: uh who actually are coming out to assist us in case we need to [0:36:22, 0:36:26]: remove anything that we find. Uh on phase one. [0:36:26, 0:36:29]: There's a determination that there were no burial site. [0:36:30, 0:36:35]: Uh what they did discover was a landfill apparently from when this city hall was built. [0:36:36, 0:36:45]: Uh they use that portion of the site as a landfill. So again, on phase one of the site, no burial, no bodies, no anything was found. [0:36:45, 0:36:47]: Only a uh construction site. [0:36:47, 0:36:56]: We will be finishing up our investigation on phase two, which is the uh property which sits where the the seven acres that we purchased. [0:36:56, 0:37:01]: we should be finishing that up within the next ten days to make a determination there. [0:37:01, 0:37:03]: Any questions so far? [0:37:04, 0:37:08]: If not, I will go on to safety. Since December we've had no incidents. [0:37:09, 0:37:17]: Uh construction is required to follow a set of guidelines as it relates to COVID nineteen. We are in compliance. We actually had a safety audit. [0:37:18, 0:37:20]: performed on April um [0:37:20, 0:37:22]: Performed April seventh. [0:37:23, 0:37:27]: And the next one is the week of May and of course we did extremely well. That's great. [0:37:28, 0:37:33]: Uh in terms of daily uh oversight, uh myself, Thomas, Lisa [0:37:33, 0:37:36]: Michaela, Angie, and Chief Wells. [0:37:36, 0:37:43]: uh someone is on the site every day. The other part of it is this we deal with reports, the geological, the technical reports that come in. [0:37:43, 0:37:50]: And so we every day we're out there making some determinations of whether or not the site and the development is in compliance with our codes. [0:37:51, 0:37:55]: Uh we have our weekly meetings every Wednesday, which is anywhere from three to four hours. [0:37:58, 0:38:06]: Uh as you know, we had a lot of rain last month and here's the inclement weather report. What does this mean? It means that for a certain number of rain days. [0:38:06, 0:38:11]: Uh HJ Russell will be able to get those days back on the backside. [0:38:11, 0:38:15]: So for the month of January we had um [0:38:15, 0:38:17]: A total of eleven rain days. [0:38:17, 0:38:21]: We had a liable for the month of seven and there was a total loss [0:38:21, 0:38:22]: Oh. [0:38:23, 0:38:24]: For the month of sin. [0:38:24, 0:38:37]: And maybe uh you can provide me with some information on on financing of of that particular building. Uh but I don't care for you to respond on that right now. Uh I'll give the other council members the opportunity to ask some questions. [0:38:38, 0:38:39]: Outstanding. Anybody else uh [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: Comments to questions from Miss Moore. [0:38:41, 0:38:43]: Yeah, mayor. Go right ahead, sir. [0:38:43, 0:38:45]: Uh Miss Moore, can you hear me? [0:38:46, 0:38:51]: Yes, yes sir, I can. I have spoken to you and uh Mr. Knight and [0:38:51, 0:38:59]: previously about and it's it's not on it's not on any of your pictures, but could you just speak briefly to um [0:38:59, 0:39:19]: What's gonna about the the the beautif I mean we can call it beautification but but the uh asset of of uh uh of aesthetics and and the look that we're gonna be putting in the community right behind the uh amphitheater, that we're not gonna just build as amphitheater and leave it that community high and dry, that we actually have some stuff put in place to uh help beautify that. [0:39:19, 0:39:20]: That area back there. [0:39:21, 0:39:28]: That's correct. The landscaping plan for this entire site, because we're actually doing w widenings on both Lee and East Atlanta. [0:39:28, 0:39:32]: calls for a landscaping plan. So there will be landscaping [0:39:32, 0:39:38]: uh as citizens and uh residents go down love street as well as east atlanta [0:39:38, 0:39:44]: there'll be landscaping on both sides all the way down those roads. So those streets will really be beautiful. In addition to [0:39:44, 0:39:50]: the change of lighting. Uh lighting on both of those streets will be consistent with what we have around City Hall. [0:39:50, 0:39:53]: So the way Lee Street looks today will [0:39:53, 0:39:54]: It will look [0:39:54, 0:39:56]: uh w it would get a total makeover. [0:39:56, 0:39:58]: And uh and then [0:39:58, 0:40:02]: East Atlanta will get a total makeover and both of those streets will be beautiful. [0:40:02, 0:40:08]: to implement, I mean to accent uh what we have on ground as related to the amphitheater itself. [0:40:09, 0:40:09]: Thank you. [0:40:10, 0:40:15]: Councilman, if I may, Mayor, uh as well uh to Councilman uh Blount's point is as Ms. Moore mentioned. [0:40:16, 0:40:20]: Um having the gateway into the amphitheater off of Lee Street in particular. [0:40:21, 0:40:27]: Um is very key to this project as people enter into that area, but also of course for the people who [0:40:27, 0:40:35]: More importantly, live there on a regular basis. And then also having a significant uh buffering along the backside of the amphitheater project. [0:40:36, 0:40:40]: um adjacent to the residential homes. The other thing that is was alluded to earlier. [0:40:40, 0:40:44]: Із-за амфатер, а ви на entertainment venue. [0:40:44, 0:40:51]: uh the design of the ponds and the associated landscaping around the amphitheater project was itself. [0:40:52, 0:40:55]: We'll create an amenity. It will be aesthetically pleasing. [0:40:55, 0:41:00]: Even when there are not um uh концерts or [0:41:00, 0:41:10]: uh stage plays happening there at the amphitheater location. I think people will gravitate to this site just to enjoy uh the scenery, the landscaping and the [0:41:10, 0:41:21]: um a very relaxing vibe uh that will be established uh in and around the amphitheater uh property itself. And so um uh in addition to the amphitheater itself. [0:41:22, 0:41:31]: Um and what everything that that brings, obviously this site will enhance our recreational and passive park areas in the city of Stockbridge. [0:41:32, 0:41:38]: Right. So what we did we added as you know, we have one wet pond and two dry ponds as is perceived. [0:41:39, 0:41:42]: So the wet pond is actually going to be a passive park. [0:41:42, 0:41:46]: Just like the city manager said, it will be a park in itself. [0:41:46, 0:41:57]: a right adjacent to city hall for people to come and for and I know there was some a question some time back about us having a very nice pass apart somewhere in the area. [0:41:57, 0:42:00]: And so this particular location will be our passport. [0:42:00, 0:42:02]: And they were working on [0:42:02, 0:42:06]: finalizing the uh design for but the initial ones [0:42:06, 0:42:08]: It's really going to be a beautiful park. [0:42:10, 0:42:12]: Any other questions for Miss Moore at all? [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: Yes. [0:42:13, 0:42:14]: Go right here, sir. [0:42:14, 0:42:34]: Yeah, uh Max Moore, thank you so much for that presentation. It caught caught us up. Uh will you kind of expand upon that a little bit and let our citizens know about the road improvement project uh that is uh somewhat uh attached to this, which is the East Atlanta, uh we'll be adding a uh current [0:42:34, 0:42:36]: Correcting a bottleneck there with a turn lane. [0:42:38, 0:42:43]: Right, I was gonna try to do see if I could find an aerial in here that could actually pick that up. [0:42:44, 0:42:50]: Uh yes. Uh because of the number of uh citizens that will participate in the amphitheater. [0:42:50, 0:42:53]: Um G Dot uh want to make sure. [0:42:54, 0:42:58]: that uh egress as you get in and out of the amphitheater that we [0:42:58, 0:43:07]: were that we built a uh or improved the road system such that traffic in and out would not uh be impeded, nor would we call harm to the [0:43:07, 0:43:11]: subdivision uh at the rear. So therefore on [0:43:11, 0:43:15]: A love street, they are requiring us to align that street. [0:43:15, 0:43:20]: Whereas right now you gotta stop, you gotta light and it's not a straight intersection. [0:43:21, 0:43:26]: So we have to realign that street right there at Love Street and then we have to put in an additional lane. [0:43:26, 0:43:36]: an additional turn lane that runs all the way back to the entry into the parking. So that way it could be that additional lane could be an entry or an exit point. [0:43:36, 0:43:45]: Depending on coming in, we can use that additional lane to get traffic in. And then on the way out, we can use that additional lane as a way to lose traffic out. [0:43:45, 0:43:48]: And it will be a straight through lane as well as a turn lane. [0:43:48, 0:43:55]: And then on East Atlanta, they did require some widen East Atlanta as well. And there will be two lanes. [0:43:55, 0:43:58]: uh that will be added to the lanes on East Atlanta. [0:43:59, 0:44:08]: to make sure that you have a lane that allows you to continue straight through the light as well as a right turn lane that allows you to turn right on um [0:44:08, 0:44:19]: on one thirty eight, North Henry. So the traffic um the traffic plan as it relates to road widenings which will mitigate traffic getting in and out is a very good one. [0:44:19, 0:44:27]: We think that once it is completed, even though we wait we will have, you know, as many as four thousand people in a in a place [0:44:27, 0:44:31]: at one time, getting them in and out will be very easy. [0:44:31, 0:44:37]: based on the designs of the traffic mitigation plan that we currently have before GDOT right now. [0:44:38, 0:44:38]: Thank you. [0:44:40, 0:44:42]: Any other question for Ms. Moore? [0:44:42, 0:44:48]: I do, Mayor. I just need to receive a copy of the approval for the house. [0:44:49, 0:44:55]: being torn down for the record and also the selling of the papers so that we can put that into the record, please. [0:44:56, 0:44:57]: Okay, so we have [0:44:58, 0:45:06]: You just you need a copy. You don't need a motion for that. You just need a copy, is what you're saying. Oh, it was copied there was so I would need to receive that as well. [0:45:07, 0:45:15]: I think uh it was d done by email, so I will get those together for you'cause I think they responded by email. Mr. Knight and asked for consensus. [0:45:15, 0:45:22]: And so I will get that documentation for you. Great, thank you. And they responded to both of them in their response is email. [0:45:23, 0:45:24]: All right. [0:45:25, 0:45:29]: So that's so we're good with that. Is that uh Mr Night uh Mr Williams, we're good? [0:45:32, 0:45:33]: Yes, sir. [0:45:33, 0:45:36]: Okay. Thank you very much. Any other question from Miss Moore? [0:45:38, 0:45:42]: Thank you, Miss Moore. Appreciate that. This is great. Moving on the screen. [0:45:43, 0:45:45]: Okay. On that note I have some comments here. [0:45:46, 0:45:53]: Um, for all you football fans, if you if you're watching the NFL draft, I want you to know that during the third round of NFL draft, [0:45:53, 0:46:13]: The Redskins uh picked up a wide receiver, a guy named Antonio Gibson. Just so happens that Mr. Gibson graduated from E. High School and and also went to Memphis uh university. So my assumption is Mr. Gibson and his family are still living in the Stockbridge area, so congratulations to them and him becoming a pro and uh working out in and uh [0:46:13, 0:46:16]: uh play for watching rescans. That's great stuff. [0:46:16, 0:46:20]: Uh on that note, let's talk about uh covet nineteen. [0:46:20, 0:46:32]: All right. Just so happens that in Henry County, the last numbers I have is four hundred and eighty three people have been confirmed, uh a confirmed case of having COVID nineteen and unfortunately eleven of those individuals have passed away. [0:46:33, 0:46:53]: Listen, it's imperative upon everyone to try to get tested. All right. So if you have a fever at 100.4 degrees or above, dry cough, shortness of breath, chills, you repeating shake, you're kind of shaking when you have chills, a sore throat, loss of smell or taste, trouble breathing. [0:46:52, 0:47:12]: persistent chest pressure, pain, blushed lips, or bl or bleach coloring. You chances are you have those symptoms, you have those symptoms, chances are you have COVID-19. You need to go get checked out. You need to go to the hospital. But you cannot go to a to an emergency room or to a clinical test site unannounced. You have to get approval from your from your primary care [0:47:12, 0:47:14]: [2834.4, 2850.9]: Uh you'll have to contact the local public health department and get uh and get uh uh and get some private approval. And what it amounts to, they normally give you what you call as a PUI, which is a personal under investigation number. And you take that document to the test site and they'll test you. [0:47:31, 0:47:51]: The COVID-19 hotline is not as 844-442-2681. Once again, COVID 19 hotline is 844-442-2681. And if you want to get a hold of the public health department, their hotline is 866-782-222. [0:47:51, 0:48:11]: Once again, public health hotline 866-782-4584. It's very imperative for you to get checked out if you have any of those types of symptoms. And I would imagine as people get checked up, the number of confirmed cases will go up. But you need to know if you have it, because if you're asystematic. [0:48:11, 0:48:16]: you're passing on this spiral to other individuals and we need to make sure we we keep take that under control. [0:48:17, 0:48:28]: On that note, as we since the council uh approved a um a resolution not too long ago in reference to the opposition of the governor's uh particular latest executive order. [0:48:29, 0:48:49]: Obviously that doesn't change anything that he put out there, but what we want you to do is we want you to be safe. So if you want to go to the barbershop, beauty shop, gym, if you want to go to restaurants now, you have to be safe. We want you to wear, CDC recommends that you wear a mask. Possible wear gloves. Keep the social distancing. You know, don't get don't cutter up. Okay? Be safe. [0:48:49, 0:49:09]: Because if someone, if if you get it, uh if you actually happen to get the virus and or you symptoms and you get checked out, it's you they're gonna do what you call a contract tracing. They're gonna test your family, uh, they're gonna test anybody else that may have contact with you in this aspect. That's where the investigation comes in. [0:49:09, 0:49:29]: And they're hot and heavy on wanting to do this contact tracing. They want to make sure they get a hold of everybody that had in contact with you if you happen to be positive. That's the only way we're going to defeat this. And it's up to you, citizens, to take control of this and be safe when you're out and about and and doing your business. Um now the shelter in place is scheduled to end on two days on Thursday. [0:49:28, 0:49:45]: not sure what the governor's gonna do. We'll see what happens here. And then we'll have to take appropriate actions here at the city in reference to what we've what we feel we need to do in reference to you all and your safety. We're concerned about you. And and and on I would imagine you're concerned about not only immediate family, but also other individuals as well. [0:49:46, 0:49:48]: On that note, I think my three minutes is probably up. [0:49:49, 0:49:50]: So I'll be quiet. [0:49:50, 0:49:52]: All right, let's see here. [0:49:52, 0:49:54]: Yes, sir. [0:49:55, 0:50:14]: Uh yes sir. You don't mind. Uh they set it up today where uh they even have it set up over at uh the uh over Georgia States over where the t uh field used to be. Those satellite sites now you can actually drive up and be screened there and actually get the test done if you pass the screening there. So you can drive up now without making the phone call. [0:50:14, 0:50:16]: Okay, good deal. Thank you, sir, for that. Appreciate it. [0:50:17, 0:50:26]: On that note, upcoming meetings. It's my understanding that the Planning Commission special call meeting is still set for Thursday, April 30th, at 6:30 p.m. Is that still on? [0:50:26, 0:50:33]: No, sir, because the lift we're not for sure about the sheltering in place and some of our folks are uh elfly, so no. [0:50:33, 0:50:37]: Uh it has been we Jill and I will send you those dates here in the clerk companies. [0:50:38, 0:50:43]: Okay, thank you very much. The uh Main Street Advisory Board meeting is uh scheduled for May eighth. [0:50:43, 0:51:01]: at uh and nine a.m. and my understanding that uh Kira's gonna do that by way of Zoom and so it's uh a little time to do all that, coordinate that. And our next council meeting uh is uh Monday, May eleventh at six PM So it could be by Zoom or it could be in person, but we'll see how we wanna why we wanna work that. Um [0:51:01, 0:51:21]: Upcoming events and announcements. Um what I want to talk about now actually deals with the primary uh uh voting. Um now so if you go to our website, ladies and gentlemen, uh citizens there, any updates for the what the voting schedule is all on our website. But to just let you know that the early voting starts [0:51:21, 0:51:41]: uh at Merrill Manor's Conference Center on the 18th of May, 18th to 22 May, uh from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. early voting for the primary. All right. At 26 to 29 May, it continues on from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. at Merrill Manors. And then on Saturday, May 30th, it's from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. and Saturday [0:51:41, 0:52:01]: Sunday, May 31st, 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. And then also 1 June to 5 June, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Moral Managers Conference and that's for the primary. And of course, the primary actual date is is um Tuesday, June 9th. Uh so all the updates are on the website as well. If you happen to go to Moral Manage to Early Vote and uh [0:52:01, 0:52:14]: uh make sure you're safe, wear your mask and keep your social distancing there as well. And on that note, that is all that I have for announcements. So on that note, I will say to you, Council, I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [0:52:15, 0:52:16]: So move. [0:52:16, 0:52:17]: Is there a second? [0:52:17, 0:52:20]: A second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:52:22, 0:52:25]: All righty. Good night, everybody. The meeting's adjourned. All right.

--- title: March 24 2020 Special Called Meeting date: 2020-03-24 source: 2020-03-24_March_24_2020_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:05]: All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. So [0:00:07, 0:00:11]: We can have one more person go to the floor or all you guys can [0:00:12, 0:00:24]: Mr. Thomas, you are not sitting on here, but I'm weird right here. I mean I can move. Somebody can sit at my tank. Well you got the only can't keep them. No. Not necessarily. I think I'm gonna move. I'm wearing a regular. [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: Yeah. [0:00:27, 0:00:28]: Yeah, you got to. [0:00:50, 0:00:50]: Yeah. [0:00:52, 0:00:53]: Everybody set? [0:00:57, 0:00:58]: Yeah. [0:01:02, 0:01:03]: Clerk, you set? [0:01:05, 0:01:11]: Hi ladies and gentlemen. Um special call meeting, called to order I have here about two minutes after nine. [0:01:12, 0:01:15]: All right, invocation. Please stand. Mr. Knighton, please. [0:01:31, 0:01:51]: Let us pray that most gracious and all-wise God, we come before you this morning with joy and with thanksgiving that only comes from you. We thank you for the gathering of his mayor and council, his elected body, and we pray God for a blessing, a discernment, wisdom, and understanding on each. [0:01:51, 0:02:05]: One bless our homes and our respective families, bless this great city of Stockbridge, bless our state and our nation. And God, in these unprecedented times and times of anxiety, [0:02:05, 0:02:06]: And uncertainty. [0:02:07, 0:02:09]: The one thing that we are certain about. [0:02:09, 0:02:11]: Is that you are still God? [0:02:12, 0:02:20]: And that you reign supreme. You have all power in your hand. And your word declares that you can heal us. [0:02:21, 0:02:24]: Of all our diseases, we ask your blessing right now. [0:02:25, 0:02:26]: In the name of Jesus. [0:02:27, 0:02:28]: Amen. [0:02:30, 0:02:42]: Played to lead us to the flags of America and to the new Republic. We just stand one nation, under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:02:46, 0:02:47]: May I Protam Thomas? [0:02:48, 0:02:49]: Councilman Black. [0:02:49, 0:02:50]: President. [0:02:51, 0:02:51]: Present. [0:02:53, 0:02:54]: President [0:02:55, 0:03:03]: Alexander. Present. Council of the Barber. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a question. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Um Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:03:05, 0:03:06]: Is there a second? [0:03:06, 0:03:23]: Seconds down here. Uh is there something I need? Is there some paperwork I need or something? Uh do you not okay. Uh Councilman Blount does not have his agenda in front of him. Okay, here's is this the next one right here? Mm-hmm. Okay, okay. Uh here, here, here. [0:03:24, 0:03:25]: Thank you. [0:03:25, 0:03:30]: Yeah, the capital. No, I don't have any. Uh yeah, here here's everything. There you go. [0:03:33, 0:03:38]: All right, I had a motion to adopt adopt the agenda and of course a second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:03:40, 0:03:49]: Thank you very much. Okay, new business. Council consideration, COVID nineteen, pandemic response, public gathering restrictions. Mr. Williams, please. [0:03:55, 0:04:12]: As you uh know, the uh county and the municipalities in Henry County have been uh attempting to coordinate activities and coordinate uh an emergency response to the COVID nineteen pandemic. Uh yesterday afternoon. [0:04:12, 0:04:32]: There was a conference call with all the city managers, the county managers, and and the mayors, and and I believe the uh Chair Wood was on the call to discuss what additional measures the Henry County local governments can take in response to uh where we stay. [0:04:32, 0:04:52]: As you know, a number of jurisdictions across the country have imposed significant restrictions, stay-at-home orders, uh shelter-in-place orders, whatever you you may call. Um, and then just last night, the mayor of Atlanta imposed uh the the most uh strict. [0:04:52, 0:04:59]: [299.4, 319.4]: an essential business or an essential employee, as well as closures of uh all businesses except certain businesses um that are deemed essential. Um so in response to sort of where we are, uh the county um coordinated the conference call [0:05:19, 0:05:39]: Uh we anticipate the county commission uh adopting uh some level of restrictions this afternoon when they meet. Um and of course they're looking to all the municipalities to kind of coordinate the efforts and adopt similar measures. So what you have before you [0:05:39, 0:05:59]: um are two resolutions. Um the first resolution, it doesn't have a marking at the top. There's two resolutions. One is kind of a clean resolution, the other one's is option two on the front of it. The the first one is essentially the Henry County resolution that we anticipate them adopting [0:05:59, 0:06:19]: Later today. Um, what they are directing is that all symptomatic persons um stay uh in their homes and you know seek medical attention, etc. But they're they would not be allowed in any public buildings, restaurants, shops, public transportation, etc. Um [0:06:19, 0:06:39]: They're also putting a restriction on on all indoor recreation, fitness, and entertainment facilities, and they shall be closed during the duration of the emergency. With respect to restaurants, they are uh adopting a uh essentially a um [0:06:40, 0:07:00]: um a drive-through or or delivery model similar to what other uh jurisdictions are doing, um with the exception of certain um uh eating establishments within medical or governmental facilities and they just need to follow the C D C guidelines. So this would be [0:07:00, 0:07:20]: For instance, the cafeteria at the hospital would not have to close. Um there is a difference that we've added in this resolution, which is different from Henry County with respect to restaurants. And there's the line, this is the last line in section 3A that says such establishments, these are restaurants who are doing delivery. [0:07:20, 0:07:22]: Um [0:07:23, 0:07:43]: or carry out. Such establishments are granted time limited authority to sell packaged beer and wine with food sales while the resolution is in effect. That's kind of similar to what the city of Atlanta has d done. In terms of the houses of worship, um you can see the provisions here. There there's more of a of an encouragement [0:07:43, 0:07:45]: Um [0:07:45, 0:07:55]: The uh the governor, as you all know, adopted a restriction on meetings of ten or more um [0:07:55, 0:08:15]: And so yeah, you know, that would obviously somehow be factored into this. Um and the rest of this is kind of what we've heard, um, just the physical distancing. People are encouraged to kind of do what we're doing here in in in the in terms of the social distancing. Um [0:08:15, 0:08:35]: Uh two things were added to the Henry County in addition to the beer and wine provision. One is section six, which basically s says that all orders of the governor um are to be carried out by the uh city of Stockbridge and staff. And that's really a statement that's already in the [0:08:35, 0:08:53]: code but we just put that in here um contemplating potentially um any additional orders that come through the governor if if the if the governor does decide to impose additional restrictions and then the last thing um the [0:08:53, 0:09:10]: This resolution is in effect to to mirror the t um time period that the county's resolution, which is April seventh. So it's through midnight on April 7th. Obviously, uh you could adjust that depending on what changes occur with the county. Um [0:09:10, 0:09:14]: Option two the only difference between option [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: One and option two. [0:09:17, 0:09:32]: is a significant difference, but it's the only diff difference. Um in section uh two of the county version there's just a restriction on indoor recreation um and you know that language is kind of clear. [0:09:33, 0:09:53]: In section two of option two, there's a general business closure order which closes all businesses with the exceptions of those listed on uh exhibit A. And so this is the most similar to what the city of Atlanta adopted last night, although you know there [0:09:52, 0:10:12]: I'm sure there are some differences, but generally it's all businesses are directed to be closed with the exception of essential business operations. And it's a fairly long list, but they're the kind of the usual suspects, obviously, hospitals, clinics, medical facilities. Um then you have to still use [0:10:12, 0:10:32]: have the food restrictions for uh uh restaurants, et cetera, but then grocery stores, gas stations, banks and credit unions, et cetera, those businesses which kind of vital to kind of keeping things going, albeit at a limited level, are exempted. That's essentially [0:10:32, 0:10:37]: Actually it um a couple of things to keep in mind. [0:10:37, 0:10:41]: Um one under our emergency management ordinance. [0:10:42, 0:10:42]: Um [0:10:43, 0:10:47]: In theory, the mayor could do this. Well actually in fact the mayor could [0:10:47, 0:10:47]: A dot [0:10:48, 0:10:57]: an emergency order that accomplishes all this without a vote of mayor and council. But I believe the mayor wanted to consult with everyone and want everyone to be on the same page. [0:10:57, 0:11:01]: Um rather than him just doing it unilaterally, but he does have that authority. [0:11:02, 0:11:19]: And to the extent whatever you adopt today, to the extent additional measures need to take place, the mayor could again impose whatever additional restrictions are necessary, or you could always meet again to reassess depending on where we stand. [0:11:20, 0:11:40]: So that's it in the nutshell. I'm happy to take any questions. All right, Mike, I'll start this off. First of all, anything that um anything, whatever we adopt in the actual uh resolution there, uh I just want to make sure that if it's if it's supposed to say city, make sure it says city versus the county in this aspect when it comes to the city limits, the stop bridge. And number two, uh I will say to you. [0:11:39, 0:11:59]: and the council and anybody else listening that it's mine in my personality that even though I may have the ultimate authority to do this, I'm not gonna I do this. I think you know me well enough that I wouldn't do this without at least talking to you all and getting a general consensus of what what direction we need to go. Okay. So that's what happened actually with the declaration of state of emergency that was signed. [0:11:59, 0:12:19]: uh several days or so ago and I would not be signing anything like this uh unless I once again had a simple majority at least a consensus on doing anything like that. And uh and just for conversation sake, I'll say number three, is I like option two, but also we'll go with a consensus of the council. On that note [0:12:19, 0:12:33]: Note I'll be quiet and who wants to speak first. Go right ahead, please. Thank you. Um thank you, Mayor. Um just so that those who are live streaming is aware, we have two council members sitting out um [0:12:34, 0:12:54]: on the desk because because we're practicing, making sure that we're six feet apart. Um and we encourage all citizens to do the same. I did receive some phone calls about um concerns from small business owners on yesterday and they ironically came from a hair salon and a barber shop. [0:12:53, 0:12:57]: who specifically asked the question of [0:12:58, 0:13:18]: whether or not they could have one chair and allow service for one person at a time in their facility and if it's other people were sitting out in their car and someone needed a service. Um I really don't object to that. I like option two as well, but it I just wanted to let the council know that I did receive some [0:13:18, 0:13:38]: calls um in regards to their concerns about that in particular that that particular service. I'm hoping everyone stays at home and stays safe as much as possible. We do take this serious. I definitely take this serious. And you know my thoughts and prayers are with each and every one of you. [0:13:38, 0:13:53]: as well as with my colleagues as we make these tough decisions. So I am for option two. I just want you to consider possibly allowing those type of services to have one person in at a time if needed. [0:13:54, 0:14:14]: Go right ahead, Councilman Howson. I'd like to say thank you, uh, Councilwoman Gantt for those uh comments. And I'd like to echo those comments because uh I think collectively uh this council wants to do the the right thing by our city. And we ask all small business owners, business [0:14:14, 0:14:34]: Owners, citizens, and everybody out there to understand, I think we're trying to follow the best medical advice possible to do the right thing. And from what I understand personally, is that by doing this now, uh, select and I support options. [0:14:34, 0:14:35]: Yeah. [0:14:36, 0:14:39]: The the by doing it now with [0:14:39, 0:14:45]: basically uh shutting down as as as as much as we can, except essential businesses. [0:14:46, 0:15:06]: It will help this to pass by faster. We'll be able to get through this without having the hospitals overwhelmed and our system overtaxed. Because uh what is happening is that if we watch um the numbers grow, uh we've gotten to the point now where the numbers [0:15:06, 0:15:26]: Are almost doubling in a daily basis to uh to where they are now. And uh I think we all would like to send out our our condolences to uh the individual here in Henry County that passed away, uh, of the nine cases that we had tested positive, and all of those. [0:15:25, 0:15:45]: Around uh the country who have suffered from this from this gr uh affliction. We just need to make sure that we understand and that we practice the science and that we're here to make sure that we lead. Everybody in this room, from the mayor to all other council, wants to make sure that you are safe and I wholeheartedly [0:15:45, 0:16:05]: Support uh option number two to make sure that uh these businesses are complying and understand that we understand the pain uh of the small business owner and the exception for the restaurants to make sure that you can still serve your customers uh in a to-go fashion. [0:16:05, 0:16:25]: It is my belief that uh if you have have those establishments open, then it is only how do you decide between who do you let in and who you're not, and then you got 10 and somebody wants to come in, it puts the pressure on that business owner and we wanna support you. Uh I ordered food myself to go. [0:16:25, 0:16:40]: to make sure that I was supporting small business and I ask every person out there to do the same. And I think all our council members would do that as well. But I wholeheartedly support uh option number two and we want to make sure that you stay safe. [0:16:41, 0:16:42]: Yeah. [0:16:43, 0:17:03]: Uh when we um was going to meet about this, one of the things that was concerned to me is that is the stimulus package that hasn't been passed by Congress and it's gonna affect small businesses that need um some type of uh um boost to get back on their feet or to sustain their own businesses. I don't want to see any big [0:17:03, 0:17:23]: business go out of business. So these are some tough t uh tough decisions for the council to make. But I was, but I would uh as as looking and talking to different business owners, I I support option two as well. And one of the things that we have to be careful and cautious of, I believe, is that when we start to make uh [0:17:23, 0:17:43]: Certain special provisions instead of non-essential because we're looking at certain provisions be set for one business, but what about the provision that could come in for another? What about these restaurants that don't have the ability to sustain themselves through uh deliveries and drive-throughs that that that help the smaller business that say, [0:17:43, 0:17:49]: say, hey, well I can bring people in and we'll sit'em here, sit'em there. We have to be careful and cautious when we do [0:17:49, 0:18:09]: provisions for certain businesses that are on the list and and uh options of provisions could come up for another. So I'm for option two, but I I think we need to step fast because this virus is so intense and I've known uh people that have been affected by it is that there's there's no there's [0:18:09, 0:18:26]: There's no ceiling to this yet where there's gonna start a decline. And I think there's a city that I think that we're taking the right measures and right um uh being being proactive in some ways and reactive in other ways, but but I think the decision to make for non essential businesses, I think that that should stand [0:18:27, 0:18:47]: uh uh a uh alone as itself and and for each individual also to put the onuses on them to to just practice this uh practice good uh safety. You know, I just think we have to be careful when we start talking about making special provision for certain type of businesses. Uh I think that we need to go across the board [0:18:47, 0:18:54]: with this because this thing is so is very dangerous, very contagious and and those are the hard decisions that we have to make today. [0:18:57, 0:19:00]: Anybody else? Go right here, sir. [0:19:01, 0:19:21]: I'm going to also support Object Chief. And I just echo what all of my councilmates are founding on today. I would encourage all citizens for the most part if you do not have to get out, stay home. If you do get out, if you go into the gas. [0:19:21, 0:19:41]: pump, wear your glove, might be known down, the handle down. If you're going grocery shopping, take your gloves, clean off the carts. But many of us will continue to go shopping as we need items. So we have to be careful in the grocery store. [0:19:41, 0:20:01]: And just make sure you wipe those parts down the hound, especially. And even it has been stated that even the products that we purchased, when you get them home, some of those items need to be wiped out. So I do favor option two. I just encourage everyone to keep the distance, be safe, and as much as possible. [0:20:01, 0:20:02]: Fast signal. [0:20:03, 0:20:09]: And I would imagine I'm just gonna ask Council Barber, everybody spoke but you. Do you have something you need to say? [0:20:11, 0:20:29]: I just echo everything else that this council has already mentioned. Uh Councilwoman Gantt already addressed the hair salons, nail salons, tattoo parlors. Um Councilman Blonde already addressed the small businesses. So I'm support of option two as well. [0:20:30, 0:20:43]: All right. So be it. But uh but what I thought I heard in this process, you have the exemption list here, you had a recommendation to make a special consideration, but you also heard some rebuttal to that thinking that the [0:20:43, 0:20:44]: If I understand right that the [0:20:45, 0:20:48]: The exemption list would be as stands equal across the board. [0:20:49, 0:21:09]: In this aspect we might go down a a a road in which you're picking and choosing certain things is what I thought I understood or heard on that aspect. Yes yes, sir. You have something you want to say? I I I um I just wanna speak to that. I'm very sympathetic, uh Councilwoman Gantt to uh these business owners as [0:21:08, 0:21:28]: Well. But sometimes I think Councilman Blount is correct in that sometimes we might have to protect them from themselves because you don't know that person does not know whether that client coming in is infected or not. [0:21:28, 0:21:31]: [1292.3, 1300.0]: If if there was a in a perfect world, if there was a way for the client to be tested and the stylist to be tested. [0:21:40, 0:22:00]: I would say, yeah, let's do it. But if that client came in and that client is infected, and God forbid the stylus is infected and then infects the client, then that exponentially goes out. That's the whole issue in itself. But I understand because this is folks' livelihood that we're talking about. [0:22:00, 0:22:06]: But at the same time uh what Councilman Blount makes a strong point in that uh [0:22:07, 0:22:27]: We would the convenience the the other businesses that were closing could come back and say to us, Well, can you just let one person in at a time? And that's kind of what it really come down to me. It's not uh who whose idea it was or whatever. I support what you're saying in concept, if we could do it, but in the on the other side I just [0:22:27, 0:22:40]: I just uh put uh have some concerns about that. And and based on that, I think I would just like to go ahead and make an o motion for option two to go ahead and move forward uh with option two. [0:22:40, 0:22:43]: All right. Motion was made. Is there a second? [0:22:44, 0:22:47]: A second. Okay. Any further discussion? [0:22:48, 0:23:08]: Sir. Um I wanted to ask this question earlier before the motion. As I was walking in, there was a gentleman attempting to come into the bill and to to pay his bill. Um he read a note on the door. I wanted Mr. Nine to come forward and just explain to the Bureau and audience uh [0:23:08, 0:23:27]: uh the procedure here as to um you know how you come and and pay your bill. I know there's a drop box and I instructed him to put it in the box. But Mr. Night you may just want to share to the to the folks at the view and and maybe you can tell the uh city operations. [0:23:28, 0:23:31]: You want me to do that? Yeah, yes, sir. Go ahead. I'm sorry, go right ahead. [0:23:31, 0:23:51]: Yes, um obviously uh the uh city buildings have been closed for the last several days in response to the coronavirus pandemic. Uh we have encouraged people to go online and correspond with the appropriate staff via email. Um and also there's an opportunity to pay uh certain bills online. [0:23:51, 0:24:11]: Online as well. We did have a brief problem with some of the utility billing online payments yesterday, and that was to be corrected uh either late yesterday or by this morning. Also, I would mention um that uh uh this council had already had already put in place [0:24:11, 0:24:31]: Uh a grace period for paying uh you know your water bills, utility bills for uh at least 30 days. And so we certainly would not um disconnect anyone uh for failure to pay during this period of time. Obviously, we want to be sensitive to uh the challenges that everybody is facing, and we encourage [0:24:31, 0:24:40]: Um uh citizens to reach out to us via our social media platforms, and also uh they certainly can contact me directly. [0:24:41, 0:24:46]: Uh Randy Knighton is a city manager, R Knighton at city of stockbridge-ga.gov. [0:24:46, 0:24:50]: Please feel free to give me a call or feel free to email me. [0:24:50, 0:24:54]: And we'll make sure that uh we're all responsive. I think the staff has worked very well. [0:24:55, 0:25:15]: Um during uh this unusual period uh in being able to respond to um uh citizen needs, uh number of emails and phone calls that I've received, and staff has been able to respond. And so we asked everybody's patience during this time. Uh we're here to continue to serve uh the citizens of Stockbridge, uh the high [0:25:15, 0:25:26]: highest professional level and we'll continue to do so. Again, I encourage citizens to use our online platforms and if you need to contact me directly, please do not hesitate to contact me directly. Thank you. [0:25:27, 0:25:47]: Ms. Alzhan, go ahead, please. I thank Council, Mr. Knighton, if you will. I thank Councilman Thomas for asking that very valuable question because I've gotten a number of correspondence as well. While you're up there, so I wanna understand for myself. So if someone's calling the utility billing, they have to call a specific number. [0:25:47, 0:25:51]: Or do they call if they call the main city hall number, will they be [0:25:51, 0:26:11]: Their numbers, the the the uh normal numbers are being routed to specific people to their cell phones. Um also again we encourage people to email. There is a drop box as well uh outside that people can still make uh uh payments by check uh outside in the drop box um here at the back of City Hall. [0:26:11, 0:26:20]: as well, but those um calls we sought to route all of the the calls that would normally come into the office to a specific person's cell phone of that particular department. [0:26:21, 0:26:41]: Right. My issue was that folks were calling the main number. It's the three eight nine seven nine zero zero. That number was not moving people through the system. Okay. Can we fix that? We'll make sure that that is because you know they can try to find different numbers and then maybe get this posted uh on the social media. [0:26:41, 0:27:01]: Media spots with all the phone numbers so folks can just uh really get to it. And uh we apologize. I do it myself as well. And I think we all do for the the uh system outages that we've had that have caused some of these conflicts. Yeah, let me mention that too while I'm here. Um we did have some uh internet uh issues. [0:27:01, 0:27:06]: Issues over the past week and our internet provider has basically shifted everything to a new platform. [0:27:07, 0:27:14]: uh from an old platform is shifted to a new platform. So we should not experience those issues that we've had in the past several days. [0:27:14, 0:27:34]: Uh Mayor. Yes, sir. Um we in disrespect of those that are viewing those businesses that are waiting on the decision, uh I would hope that we can reserve the right to ask questions after the motion uh after we make the uh vote. Um but just for those businesses that we just put on edge, um I would ask. [0:27:34, 0:27:43]: that we go ahead and make a vote on that so they can go ahead and uh move through and then after that if we if my colleagues wish that we could ask questions of our of our city manager. [0:27:44, 0:28:04]: But we've uh but the question at hand now is to vote on this and so I'm pretty I know quite a few people that are watching it, so I think that we uh probably serve best to go ahead and make that vote so they can make start making whatever provisions they need to make. Uh change to the vote. Thank you. The motion was made and was seconded, but uh for are there further discussion before it takes the vote. Any further comments on [0:28:04, 0:28:07]: on this. And if not, all in favor of the motion please indicate. [0:28:08, 0:28:28]: Oh okay, it's unanimous. All right. Now uh Mike in reference to since the public's listening in reference to this, uh there's a couple things I think uh that you have to make a couple changes in reference to some sm minute words in reference county versus city. And uh obviously it's effective now once upon signature, you and I and then the clerk has some [0:28:28, 0:28:48]: To sign this and then I'm assuming once that happens, this will be posted on our oh he just stepped out on our website for everybody to know and it'll be publicized just like anything else from the CDC or public health departments all on a website for folks to to see that. Okay. Yes sir. Um now says Mike is in front. Did you all have you talking about questions? [0:28:48, 0:28:55]: Which has already been passed. Any questions specifically from Mike, the city manager will be back in a second. Yes, ma'am. Mayor, thank you. Um just real quick. [0:28:56, 0:29:16]: Is this to take effect immediately today or tomorrow? Today. Today. So the businesses need to just shut down right away. That's why you said what he did. That's why Councilman Bliss said what he did. And and if they do that, if they shut down. Go ahead, I'm sorry. Immediately, right? No prep time, just shut down right now, then [0:29:20, 0:29:36]: Where how are we gonna communicate this? Or is this gonna be through just our website? Are we gonna contact where's our PIO officer? Are they gonna be notified to contact all media? How is this gonna get to those businesses within this timeframe? [0:29:37, 0:29:44]: My my recommendation is sort of an all of the above approach. Put it on the website, put it on Facebook, all social media. [0:29:44, 0:30:04]: uh you may issue a press release, um but then code enforcement um as they kind of patrol the city, they you know, initially obviously they should, you know, take a a collaborative, you know, approach to let them know that it's been passed, you need to shut down and [0:30:04, 0:30:10]: You know, w we're hoping that for the most part we get voluntary compliance and we don't have to go to the next step. [0:30:11, 0:30:16]: May I suggest that we have some type of copy of our resolution for those business owners just to have or [0:30:16, 0:30:21]: I mean, I know there'll be a lot of questions. We need someone's gonna have to call. [0:30:22, 0:30:34]: Um I mean expect for us to have those type of phone calls. I'm for let me be quite clear, I am for the shutdown of um we can't get better without doing this. Um [0:30:35, 0:30:52]: And it's unfortunate. I hope this shutdown is contagious. I hope that other cities um and c and other counties, I hope that the state of Georgia, I hope that the governor models this. Um I think it's imperative that we do this right away. However, [0:30:52, 0:31:02]: We have to notify our citizens and our businesses and that is very important to me. So I want to make sure that we're doing it in the best manner that we can. [0:31:03, 0:31:23]: I got a thought here. Uh every all the businesses have to have a business license. I was wondering whether or not the business occupational tax folks so they can help out with this or a list of folks to somehow get some type of correspondence out to the businesses that way as well. We'll definitely explore all those avenues, whether we can send it out as an email blast to the uh the folks we have in our database. [0:31:23, 0:31:35]: Um so we'll we'll we'll do all of the above to get the word out. [0:31:36, 0:31:45]: And and we can just even on that we as simple as d you know, letting them know that it's been passed and directing them to the website to see the actual language. [0:31:45, 0:31:46]: Mayor. [0:31:46, 0:32:06]: Yes, sir. Go right ahead, please. I I agree with Councilwoman Gann. Um, I think that some we have to put some kind of uh provisions in there to that when we leave here, it's not just close your doors now. I whether it's by midnight tonight or noon tomorrow or something, we got to w I think that we have to put the word out and [0:32:06, 0:32:26]: Lee show uh do that. But I think that w the moves we're making, I'm in total agreement with that. But uh also, Mr. Knighton, I don't know who would answer this question, because with this move, I'm sure that each council member is gonna get some phone calls. Uh and one of my concerns have been pertaining to enforcement. Uh [0:32:26, 0:32:35]: Uh that's been that's been my concern uh pertaining to this whole uh shutdown. How do we direct the phone calls? [0:32:37, 0:32:57]: And who's uh who's responsible for enforcement and what entities, whether it's code enforcement, uh Henry County PD or Fire Marshall, how do we direct phone calls pertaining to this? Right. For those particular items, um, I encourage people one to use C click fix, which we already have, if they notice something that is [0:32:57, 0:33:17]: Contrary to what you all have just uh passed. The other item is that the code enforcement division can also, and their regular patrols, uh, come in contact with uh people or businesses who may be uh not complying with this particular um order. And I think really, as in most cases. [0:33:17, 0:33:21]: [2001.4, 2011.2]: Um we become aware of it through C click fix or through other means. The other item I would mention related to Henry County Police Department is this we had conversations with the county staff. [0:33:31, 0:33:51]: Um yesterday and the county attorney, myself and Mr. Williams, uh about this uh since it was pending. Um the uh we also have uh Henry County police officers that um uh work a night shift, um patrolling businesses and parks for the city of Stockbridge. I've been in contact with Captain uh Black, the North [0:33:51, 0:33:53]: Uh Henry Precinct here. [0:33:53, 0:33:58]: And he's fully aware of this. Um, those officers uh have every right to [0:33:58, 0:34:13]: Um if they see something that again is not compliant, they have every right and will address those particular businesses as they exist um who may be a foul of uh what you all have approved. So there are different mechanisms that we'll use, including the fire marshal as we can. [0:34:14, 0:34:20]: To be able to enforce these measures, and we hope that of course people will self-comply. [0:34:20, 0:34:28]: That is the whole um intent of this is to encourage people uh to take the necessary means and precautions to [0:34:28, 0:34:48]: social distance and to um make sure that we're all doing our part to uh be able to reduce or flatten um this escalation of the virus throughout the uh throughout the metro area and throughout the country. And so there are different mechanisms and we'll be in constant I'll be in constant contact with Captain Black as well with Henry County. [0:34:48, 0:34:49]: [2089.7, 2109.7]: Um just a follow up real quick, uh if you might go right, sir. Well um and I know that times and I'm and I I don't want to go through our officer, I'm gonna leave him neutral. Uh that the time blocks, the six hour blocks will can fluctuate. Uh is there any way we could have that time block doing whether it's the evening hours? [0:35:09, 0:35:19]: Uh or however th that they're that they're in the hours of those businesses, not checking businesses that are closed, right, but checking businesses now that are open. [0:35:19, 0:35:29]: Right. We could certainly have that conversation with uh Captain Black. Typically in the past they've they've worked from um generally nine PM to three A. M. [0:35:30, 0:35:50]: Um but that that fluctuates um uh from time to time. And again I'm talking about controlling of the commercial areas in the parks that have been traditional and those would be the the standard times that they would be out given um that time frame. But we can certainly have a conversation with Captain Black about um bringing that closer to the evening hours if [0:35:50, 0:36:10]: if you will, uh, to make sure that uh during this period of time we have the ability or at Henry County Police Department are better positioned to address these issues. I'm sorry, go ahead. Yeah, well I'm just say at uh my concern is at nine o'clock, you probably got ninety percent of the businesses at nine o'clock that's closed. [0:36:10, 0:36:12]: And I'm just trying to look at [0:36:14, 0:36:16]: Who and there's no code enforcement out there. [0:36:18, 0:36:20]: Uh between five [0:36:21, 0:36:41]: and nine and then at nine o'clock ninety percent of the business are closed, then there's basically no enforcement for the business over other than an overseer for you know things that are right. So yes I and I understand that point very very well and I'll have it [0:36:41, 0:37:01]: conversation with Captain Black and I think um I think we'd be able to work with them to be able to modify those times since they're off duty officers. But I want to make sure we have that con I can have that conversation with him. During this time if we need to just be for this period of shutdown correct if we need to get with Captain Black to add another shift, I don't [0:37:01, 0:37:21]: Think that this this council would be against that for this time period. We'll do what's necessary there, and I I appreciate that. Yes. The other thing, if I if I may, uh to the mayor and council mention is that um uh the public information officer has been putting out information on a regular basis uh in the last couple of days, um and it's so [0:37:21, 0:37:41]: Soon as obviously this meeting is over, we'll put out additional information based on what you have passed, obviously, to all of our media sources and any other entities uh that would be potentially affected by this. We'll use all the means we can to inform the public again about this particular provision. I would also ask if [0:37:41, 0:38:01]: If uh um perhaps uh mayor uh before the meeting is concluded, if uh attorney Williams could come back one more time and summarize what the resolution states again for the benefit of our uh viewing audience. Sure, absolutely. Mayor Porteman Thomas, please. Thank you, Mayor. Uh Mr. Knight, I would highly recommend [0:38:01, 0:38:21]: That we arm uh code enforcement with some version of this resolution. I think we want to prevent uh code enforcement with in trying to interpret uh this resolution, and then we just hand them a document as opposed to uh them trying to interpret. [0:38:21, 0:38:26]: So they need to uh arm them with some type of [0:38:27, 0:38:32]: All right, thank you, sir. We will do. Okay, on that note, your suggestion is well taken. Um Mr Williams, please. [0:38:37, 0:38:57]: These are the main provisions of option two in the order. It provides for symptomatic persons. Any person showing symptoms recognized by the CDC as indicators of COVID-19 shall refrain from entering public buildings, restaurants, shops, public transportation facilities, and all other areas where public ingress. [0:38:57, 0:39:17]: Or of public ingress or egress. Business closures, except as provided for herein, and with the exception of those businesses listed on exhibit A, all businesses and business type operations are hereby closed. The exceptions listed on Exhibit A are healthcare and public health operations. [0:39:17, 0:39:37]: But that excludes fitness gyms, spas, salons, barbershops, tattoo parlors, and similar facilities. Human service operations are exempted. Those are long-term care facilities, et cetera. Essential infrastructure are exempted. [0:39:37, 0:39:57]: And this is a partial listing and uh again the full listing will be put on the website. Stores that sell groceries and medicine, food, beverage and alcohol or and agriculture organizations that provide charitable and social services, media, gas stations and businesses, banks and credit unions, certain critical trades such as plumbers, electricians, [0:39:57, 0:40:14]: etc. to kind of keep things moving. Mail, post shipping, logistics, and and the list goes on. Those are excluded from the order again because they're deemed to be essential services. As it relates to restaurants and [0:40:15, 0:40:32]: Uh eating establishments, of course, the governor uh in his order has closed all bars and and nightclubs, so this really pertains to traditional restaurants. So all eating establishments um shall um be closed to in-person dining. Um [0:40:33, 0:40:53]: And they shall only provide delivery and takeout services. And again, as I stated before, this uh would allow limited, time-limited authority to sell packaged beer and wine with food sales. Um there's an encouragement for houses of worship to uh follow the guidelines, um, physical distance. [0:40:53, 0:41:07]: Distancing and social distancing is encouraged. There's a provision that requires uh full cooperation with all executive orders of the governor. And again, it's time limited to it end on midnight on April seventh, twenty twenty. [0:41:09, 0:41:29]: All right, thank you. Any other questions from the council before we adjourn? I'd just like to make one statement, if I could. Go ahead, sir. I just like to say that everybody here is uh just trying to make sure that we do the right thing uh for the public. And I think sometimes timing is everything, and that you know, we uh the government [0:41:29, 0:41:43]: Governor had an opportunity to lead yesterday. We are stepping in as our citizens to fill the gap to make sure, as our council to make sure that the public is protected, echoing what Councilwoman Gantt said. [0:41:44, 0:41:50]: All right. If no other comments on any motion to adjourn. So moved. Is there a second? [0:41:50, 0:41:51]: I second. [0:41:51, 0:42:11]: All in favor no actually no I don't have to do that. Yes I do. All in favor, please educate. Yeah, I'm sorry. I have one question in the discussion, please. Okay. Mr. Knight, does the city have anything to do with the for for is any stimulus package coming toward the cities for any disbursement? Is there anything that the cities may have to be involved with [0:42:11, 0:42:31]: With anything that may come down for this uh any stimulus package from the uh Well as he's coming, let me mention this. The small business administration, there's a website you can go to and businesses can go and apply for at least that way as well. Yeah, we've been in contact [0:42:31, 0:42:40]: With GMA about this, and I think a lot is hinging upon the um bill that is pending in Congress right now. Hopefully they'll pass. [0:42:40, 0:42:45]: Today the other thing that we have been doing, we have been tracking this time сепаратly. [0:42:45, 0:42:46]: On our payroll. [0:42:46, 0:43:00]: So we want to be positioned to be able to receive any reimbursements if we need um via that mechanism. So we've been tracking it differently during this period of time as we as we uh would not normally do on our in our normal payroll system. [0:43:00, 0:43:20]: Okay. Because I know that they talked about having aid disbursements for cities, city governments outside of what they was coming in for the individual businesses and and uh individuals but cities disbursement for for aid for w whether it's the homeless or whatever they're gonna do and for that's why I didn't know if you'll have uh that [0:43:20, 0:43:27]: The head come down. Okay. All right. Motion was made, Miss Second. All in favor of the motion to adjourn. We now stand adjourned. [0:43:35, 0:43:49]: I have specially made homemade uh mask here if you're interested in a homemade mask. The first lady. That is so nice. Let me get the red one. I get the red one. I get the red. [0:43:50, 0:43:54]: I think I see a light green. Light green? Uh

--- title: March 9 2020 City Council Meeting date: 2020-03-09 source: 2020-03-09_March_9_2020_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:06]: 605 and I'd like to call the March 9th council meeting to order. [0:00:07, 0:00:09]: And uh invocation. [0:00:09, 0:00:17]: Um you know I tell you what's happened here. I forgot to identify somebody, so unless Mr Christian, would you want to do invocations this this evening at all? [0:00:17, 0:00:21]: Come on, come on up, please. There we go. On the spot. Appreciate it, sir. [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: Please stand if you can, folks. [0:00:29, 0:00:29]: Great, sir. [0:00:34, 0:00:48]: To do the people's business. Lord, we ask for your wisdom, your guidance, your instruction, to the the best of our ability to come to the right decisions to the betterment of the entire community. In your name we pray. Amen. Amen. [0:00:50, 0:01:01]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which stands one nation, one God, indivisible, with liberty and justice all. [0:01:02, 0:01:04]: Okay. [0:01:11, 0:01:17]: All right, uh Madam Clerk, roll call please. [0:01:26, 0:01:28]: Here. Present. [0:01:38, 0:01:39]: Present. [0:01:40, 0:01:40]: Present. [0:01:42, 0:01:43]: Thank you. And uh [0:01:45, 0:01:50]: I wanna councilman pro Mayor pro tem Thomas is present now. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: Okay, I [0:01:52, 0:02:03]: Okay. Check it out. All right. And I uh have a motion to vote the agenda and I have uh tasking for Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, if you can please. Mr Mayor. Yes, sir. [0:02:04, 0:02:21]: like to amend the agenda to add on the new business a resolution to oppose House Bill 937. This is a bill that takes away home rule for the city of Stockbridge as relates to design standards. [0:02:22, 0:02:31]: Mayor for the family, would you repeat the number, please? Uh it is a resolution to oppose House Bill 937. Okay, thank you. [0:02:33, 0:02:35]: Okay, is there a second to the motion? Second. [0:02:36, 0:02:37]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:02:39, 0:02:43]: Thank you, appreciate that. And that'll be under new business. [0:02:46, 0:02:57]: All right, council. I have a uh motion to uh for for adopt the minutes for the follow-up meeting, which will be the uh work session, council work session on September excuse me, on uh January twenty eighth. [0:02:58, 0:03:18]: So moved. Oh thank you. All all approved for the motion? Yes. Okay. All approved? We all approve? Second. A second, excuse me. I didn't have enough water yet. Second for the motion. I'm sorry. Second. Okay. All approved for the motion. Thank you very much. All right. Uh madam clerk, uh any public comments? [0:03:20, 0:03:25]: Okay, Miss Reed, name and address when you come to the mic, please. [0:03:30, 0:03:45]: Good evening. My name is Mildred Reed, 530, Creek View Overlook. Uh I see that the city is um having a town hall meeting the schedule for Tuesday, March the 17th to 630. [0:03:45, 0:03:54]: One of the items is a proposal from the Norfolk Southern Railroad at the closing of the street at Nolan Street and MLK. [0:03:55, 0:04:11]: It appears that to me that this will have a tremendous impact on the community. And just a couple of questions which I know you all cannot answer. I just want to put it on the universe. What benefit will the community receive from Norfolk Southern with this uh proposed closure? [0:04:12, 0:04:24]: The other item of discussion is also on the agenda having to do with the 2018 Stockbridge Renaissance Strategic Vision Plan. That's the RSVP. [0:04:25, 0:04:32]: And um that's been out for two years now. And so far we I have not seen any uh [0:04:33, 0:04:53]: Action taken on that vision plan is almost as if we did it and just put it aside and don't seem to be following through or trying to follow through on it exactly. And I am aware that there's several low-hanging fruits that we could have gotten started on in the first year, but we have not done that. And that's all I have. That's just comment. [0:04:53, 0:04:54]: [295.3, 302.1]: Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Any other com uh public comments, uh Madam Clerk? Yes, Mr. Bennett Bryan. [0:05:02, 0:05:06]: Okay, Mr. Bryan Ben Brian, name and address please. [0:05:11, 0:05:31]: Good evening, Mayor. Good evening. And members of the council. My name is Bennett Bryan. I reside at 920 Memorial Drive. I am the Appellate Division Chief for the DeCab County Law Department. I'm also a Marine Corps veteran, but I'm here to thank you all for your service because local government work is very important work. Sometimes it's thankless work. [0:05:31, 0:05:51]: Work. And so, you know, I think it's really important that you guys um devote and dedicate your time to this important work. And um and again, because I work with uh with local government officials like yourself, uh I understand what it is y'all do. And um I think it's important for people that have experience in local government to [0:05:51, 0:06:04]: be um to be on the bench, to be judges, to be deciding cases involving cities and counties. And that is why I intend to run for the Georgia Supreme Court. So I just wanted to introduce myself and thank you all. Have a good night. Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:06:07, 0:06:21]: Thank you. Appreciate that. Ladies and gentlemen, during uh our uh prior to the meeting we had uh several different uh items of of ceremonial type of review items and uh several s squaring ends. So um [0:06:22, 0:06:26]: I swore in uh a new member of the Planning Commission member as a David Planchon. [0:06:27, 0:06:30]: Downtown Avama Authority members that were sworn in. [0:06:30, 0:06:33]: Uh, today also was Mr. Art Christen. [0:06:34, 0:06:54]: The Youth Council advisory committee members that were sworn in were Erica Harvey, Miss Adams, Jaz Lee Coley, Captain Jones, Miss Carter, and I believe Roblin Rosalind Walls and did that as well. We also honored our city [0:06:54, 0:07:00]: staff, the females on our city staff, uh with a pro their own particular proclamation of Women's History Month. [0:07:00, 0:07:05]: Um we've done that and welcome them and thank them for all the service they do day in and day out. [0:07:06, 0:07:26]: And uh we also had a a special celebration for recognition of the Women's History Month um Committee that worked with Councilman Alexander uh for the uh initiative that her occurred on on March first and uh and and recognize all those individuals for their countless hours and and put on such a great program. [0:07:26, 0:07:40]: program and we gave a special recognition to Dr. Phillips, which is a business owner in the Stockbridge area and has done some great things to help out the school system, the kids in the school system here in Henry County as well. [0:07:42, 0:07:51]: On that note, uh we'll go to old business. Council consideration approved change order number one for public works facility for additional evacu uh evacuation. [0:07:53, 0:07:58]: And subgrade st of stabilization in an amount of uh hundred and five hundred and fifty five thousand [0:07:59, 0:08:01]: Five hundred three hundred and forty three dollars and ninety cents. [0:08:02, 0:08:07]: Funding source of SPLOSS, presented by mister Aaron and Lindell Miller, please. [0:08:08, 0:08:27]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. Come for you tonight. We discussed this at the retreat about the findings of some unsuitable soils at the building site for the public works building. We've got to remove that soil and replace it with some better soil so that we can build and construct the building and parking lot and roads for the facility. [0:08:28, 0:08:34]: I'll take any questions. Okay, thank you, Mr. Aaron. Any questions for Mr. Aaron? Yes, sir, go right, please. [0:08:35, 0:08:55]: Uh before we approve this uh or or disapprove, I just wanted to let the council know that I've spoken with Mr. Aaron and and the uh engineers and uh all the parties to be on on this project. And what it amounts to is that the soil tested in two different areas and in this area it needed to have some [0:08:55, 0:09:15]: Upgrading in the in the in the groundwork on that for lack of a better term. And it's gonna come to this amount, but per the contract, this should be the only change order pertaining to this project. Is that correct? [0:09:14, 0:09:27]: that they don't see no additional change orders will be presented to the city for the discovery of unsuitable soil or necessary foundation work. So this is for the s foundation of the building. [0:09:27, 0:09:46]: So for as far as the soil and foundationally, this is it because everything else is included in the yes sir. In the agreement, right? Yes, sir. The only thing that could come up maybe if something in the building we want to change, but other than that, we don't have any plan changes, but this addresses the issues that were found in the the testing conducted by Gio. [0:09:47, 0:09:48]: Okay. [0:09:49, 0:10:09]: Any other questions for Mr. Aaron? Yes, I will. Go right in, sir. I just, as we talked about this particular project uh at the retreat, I just want to go on record to make sure that, you know, as Councilman Blount says, this uh particular area and this particular uh expenditure. [0:10:09, 0:10:29]: Is not gonna turn into this repeated cycle on this particular building because of the issues that we talked about, that this um floodplain situation. No, so this this addresses the issues of unsuitable saws, which is commonplace sometimes in building construction. You gotta replace saw. [0:10:29, 0:10:37]: with saw that's compatible to what you're to build the structure. So this addresses those issues so that they can go ahead and start building. [0:10:37, 0:10:57]: Does this have any type of effect on potential expansion to the building if we are we going that extra level? Now we're compacting the soil for this particular weight or I I don't know how that works. I'm not an engineer. But if we say we want to put on a second story to the building or whatever, um [0:10:57, 0:11:01]: I i we covered for that for future expansion to the building too. [0:11:02, 0:11:03]: No. [0:11:11, 0:11:20]: This this change order, as I understand it, would be for the building pad that has already been designed for this building, which is a one story building. [0:11:22, 0:11:22]: Well. [0:11:23, 0:11:25]: Okay. You got another question, sir? [0:11:25, 0:11:31]: Uh if I c could add on to Mr. Adizana, because that was one of the question that came up. I think foundationally [0:11:32, 0:11:41]: In order for that to happen, this building has to be built in a certain way that it would take the impact with the soil packing that's gonna be done now. [0:11:42, 0:11:42]: Two. [0:11:43, 0:11:57]: handle another story and I don't that that hasn't even been determined if it th that won't that's not even in in in sight of of of it even happened to to be even be done. [0:11:58, 0:12:13]: Right. I guess to follow up on that is that we're at this point. There's no turning around. Right? We're here where we are. Before we go up with the building, is there anything that can be done to accommodate future expansion? [0:12:14, 0:12:31]: Not vertically. We looked at it, uh we were requested to take a look at adding an additional floor that would have added an additional cost that's what was one point five million dollars. Then you'd have to do some additional work for the footing and the foundation in order to support a second floor. [0:12:31, 0:12:51]: Right. I just I I'm not talking about adding that to it at this particular point in the future. You know, the city's going to grow. So the next time we come back, I don't wanna be back in the same place where we gotta build a completely another building when we can make those uh arrangements now to build this uh to at least have the foundation suitable. [0:12:51, 0:12:55]: for a two story building should we decide to expand in the future. [0:12:57, 0:13:11]: Mr. Mayor. One second, please. Uh before you go, m Mr. Knight was gonna answer it is a one story building. Okay, I j uh I'm just saying, is there anything we can do? No, you're saying no, there's nothing we can do. Not at this point based on this design. No. Okay. [0:13:11, 0:13:31]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Um along that same line, if you if we in the future wanted to be on the flank, not up top, but just on the flank of this building, will we have the same issues for as the soil? You probably run into some unsuitable soils because it'll be outside the building. [0:13:31, 0:13:40]: Building area that they're building on. Okay. There's that possibility. This is just to get the foundation and the building pad for this particular building. [0:13:41, 0:13:42]: Ms. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:13:42, 0:13:52]: Uh Mr. Alexander also to add to that, when I talk to the engineers, you only go on about three feet on this, if I'm correct, that that they did to saw testing. [0:13:53, 0:14:08]: And so we're going an additional two and a half feet below that recommendation. But if it was g if we was gonna do two stories, you would actually have to go lower than that. Yes. For the foundation and we're not doing that. So you won't be able to put another top on that building. [0:14:08, 0:14:17]: No. Are any other questions for Mr. Aaron? If there are not any motion um for this particular item. So moved. Is there a second? [0:14:18, 0:14:21]: A second. All right. Any further discussion? [0:14:22, 0:14:23]: All favor of motion please indicate. [0:14:24, 0:14:28]: Fantastic, appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. You're welcome. Thank you, sir. [0:14:28, 0:14:48]: A new business. Council consideration to approve the annual back to school initiative to a city event. An amount of ten thousand dollars funding source would be contingency. Mr Knight Ms. Knighton, please. Yes, sir, Mr Mayor and Council. This is um before you to consider approving uh the back to school initiative, which had been a council initiative [0:14:48, 0:15:08]: And making it a city event. As many of the initiatives and events that we have in the city of Stockbridge, they've proven to be very successful and have grown over time. This particular event uh has grown uh exponentially um over time as well. And so this proposal is to make it take it from a council initiative to a city event. [0:15:08, 0:15:27]: uh that would um enjoy some of the um additional support uh for this event since it reaches uh so many young people, so many children in the Hendred County school system, uh and to have it as a city event to provide that support up to an amount of uh ten thousand dollars. [0:15:27, 0:15:29]: Thank you. Mr. Blount, please. [0:15:30, 0:15:50]: Yeah, I just wanted to uh make some comments on this because I I think when we when we switch from council initiatives to city events, um first thing we take in mind, let me talk about initiatives real real quick. Um when you talk about initiatives with uh you talk about three different areas, you're talking about feasibility. [0:15:49, 0:15:57]: You talk about what service is going to provide, and you want to talk about what impact you're going to have in the future with those uh events. [0:15:58, 0:16:00]: Um the two [0:16:00, 0:16:05]: areas that have the greatest vision for those events are service and impact. [0:16:06, 0:16:23]: And then we come with what how do we make this feasible? Now when you talk about service and impact, that becomes a vision, but is this feasible is where you get your biggest concerns. When you know that you only have a a limited amount of council initiative funds, how do you make this vision work? [0:16:24, 0:16:42]: And when it comes to big events that the city have seen for as initiatives, uh when you look at the first responders when you're maxing out, when you look at the uh black history uh program when you're maxing out the women's history program and uh back school kickoff and now the bingo bash movie, when you look at those [0:16:43, 0:16:51]: Uh initiative that have uh uh an impact and provide a service as the back to school kickoff does, then you say. [0:16:52, 0:17:03]: Wha how do you fund this with with with minimal funds from council initiative funds? Well you look at getting donors and you look at uh getting sponsors. [0:17:04, 0:17:07]: So when you start to move it from a council initiative. [0:17:09, 0:17:10]: To a city event. [0:17:11, 0:17:15]: One of the things you don't ever want to do is not be able to fund it. [0:17:15, 0:17:27]: through the city because as anyone knows that has done initiatives on this level, and I think Councilman uh uh Councilman Alexander has done it and Mayor Pro Tem uh Thomas has done it. [0:17:28, 0:17:40]: There's no guarantees on funding from outside sources, but we would like those guarantees, but there's no guarantees. So how do you find a balance between what you want to come in and what you already have? [0:17:41, 0:17:46]: Those become the concerns of being feasible and it has nothing to do with the vision of the [0:17:46, 0:17:57]: of the initiative. And so what happens is is that when you change it over and you make it happen year in, year out, it's a lot, it's a lot on each council member doing it and it's a lot on our [0:17:57, 0:18:01]: Executive assistant and it's a lot on everyone to make it happen. Volunteers don't [0:18:02, 0:18:05]: To take out that element of unnoun. [0:18:05, 0:18:14]: You have to fund it because when you look at this initiative that has been costing seventy-eight thousand dollars, seven to eight thousand dollars a year. [0:18:15, 0:18:18]: You can look at the money to spend, but you did not count. [0:18:19, 0:18:34]: those incomes that came in that you didn't have to pay for. You didn't count those people that have volunteered their services that you didn't have to pay for. So there are incidentals and there are uh uh uh uh amounts that has to be paid [0:18:34, 0:18:38]: When you're doing council initiatives to this magnitude. [0:18:39, 0:18:44]: And so where there's a if if s anyone you have to understand [0:18:45, 0:18:46]: First of all [0:18:47, 0:18:48]: What you're voting on. [0:18:49, 0:18:55]: When you look at a number of what came in, if it says seven thousand dollars. [0:18:55, 0:19:08]: That's not the magnitude of what it costs because you're not counting in kind and you're not c counting volunteer services that may not may or may not be there for the next event. [0:19:08, 0:19:12]: And so this is why I want it with become a city event. [0:19:13, 0:19:16]: Ten thousand dollars is a good number because [0:19:17, 0:19:18]: It cuts out [0:19:20, 0:19:22]: Everything and makes it feasible. [0:19:22, 0:19:33]: Whether it may take the ten thousand or not, you don't know, but it becomes feasible and it still is a service not only to the schools and surrounding areas and the teachers. [0:19:34, 0:19:45]: But it's now feasible without having to count on in kind donations, sponsors and all this, and when those things come in, it only uh shortens the amount that was paid anyway. [0:19:45, 0:19:45]: Sure. [0:19:46, 0:19:48]: Yeah, go right, please. Yeah. [0:19:48, 0:20:08]: If I could. I kinda I concur with that. And uh, you know, now that you explained it that way, uh it makes a lot of sense. What I'd like to do if you would uh hum uh allow me, Mayor, is to call Miss McGee to the podium since the city will be taking over this particular event. And maybe if mister's okay with Mr. Knighton. [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: Ms. McGee? [0:20:11, 0:20:17]: Yes, ma'am. UCC. The fabulous. [0:20:26, 0:20:45]: The only question that I have for you is in general, if we put ten thousand dollars with this event, the city event staff is still gonna go out and pursue um sponsorships for the event as you would, and you would spend the money accordingly. You would only spend what you would have what that you would need to spend. Is that correct? [0:20:46, 0:20:46]: That's correct. [0:20:47, 0:20:47]: Okay, thank you. [0:20:48, 0:20:51]: Okay, any other questions for Ms. McGee since she's here? [0:20:52, 0:20:54]: If not, you know the questions in generally. [0:20:55, 0:20:59]: If not, then I need a motion ma'am, you can have a sit down please. Ma'am. Yes, ma'am. [0:20:59, 0:21:04]: I'd like to move to approve the back to school program in the amount of five thousand. [0:21:04, 0:21:09]: Amount of five thousand. Five thousand. Okay. Is there a second to that motion? [0:21:11, 0:21:12]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:21:15, 0:21:22]: Mayor. There's not a second to the motion, sorry. Yes, sir. I'd like to move to approve the ten thousand dollar for the back to school kickoff. All right, is there a second to that motion? [0:21:22, 0:21:24]: Second. Okay, any further discussion? [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Discussion. Yes, sir. [0:21:26, 0:21:27]: Correct. [0:21:28, 0:21:47]: I I really wanna gonna understand and and I I heard the comments about um service impact and uh feasibility in having the ability to carry out this mission. Um [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: I was somewhat prepared to [0:21:53, 0:21:57]: When I saw this, I was prepared to suggest a low amount. [0:21:57, 0:21:58]: Um [0:21:59, 0:22:02]: But now since I sort of heard the explanation [0:22:02, 0:22:07]: Uh I I do sort of understand it as uh Councilman Alexander stated. [0:22:08, 0:22:09]: Um [0:22:10, 0:22:10]: I'm hoping. [0:22:11, 0:22:11]: That [0:22:12, 0:22:14]: Um the sponsorship would [0:22:15, 0:22:21]: lessen this amount that we will have to use. Um [0:22:23, 0:22:33]: And I would wanna call Mrs. McGee back up, but I won't because I thought it was just a a foregone conclusion that we would just approve the ten. Um [0:22:34, 0:22:54]: So uh I just wanted to to just to make that comment, but I do understand even uh Mrs. Barber's standpoint of because I originally thought it was too much also. Uh but with the explanation now I do understand. So uh I just wanted just to speak that and hopefully uh we will [0:22:54, 0:22:56]: would not have to use the tin. [0:22:57, 0:22:58]: Right. Okay. [0:23:00, 0:23:00]: Yes. [0:23:01, 0:23:02]: Yes. [0:23:04, 0:23:15]: I am. You need to come to the podium, uh Miss Moore? [0:23:16, 0:23:21]: We get taught we have to advertise more. [0:23:24, 0:23:24]: Oh yeah. [0:23:25, 0:23:38]: What we would just add is that one of the things that we talked about is anytime we move from a city initiative a council initiative to a city initiative, we deal with it differently. So therefore the reach and that expansion [0:23:39, 0:23:41]: normally goes a little bit further. [0:23:41, 0:23:44]: in terms of the type of people that participate. [0:23:44, 0:23:47]: And so that's why we felt the amount of ten thousand. [0:23:47, 0:24:05]: would work simply because we're probably reaching more people. We're gonna try to get the sponsorships, but that was one of the reasons why because we, you know, you have your all of your media inside and you're actually pushing it, saying it's a stock bridge event versus a council initiative. So our reach is a little bit further. [0:24:05, 0:24:25]: All right. Now that you're here, any more questions for these two ladies here? Yeah, I just uh not for the two ladies. I just have an additional comment. Okay. Please have a seat. Go right ahead, sir. I'd like to commend Councilman Blount on the outstanding job that he's done to take this event to where it is right now. He's really done a really good job of bringing it where it is. Uh to [0:24:25, 0:24:45]: today. And I think this is the kind of thing that this council brings to the table where when the events get to this point that we turn'em over to the staff. We trust the staff is gonna do a very good job and that um, you know, uh this is what we do here uh in the city. So thank you. And uh we wanna I I I I support [0:24:45, 0:25:05]: with this and I think it what it does is it gives everybody up here on this board. We all we participated in some way in donations or whatever, but again the reach will be a little bit greater with the additional funding that will be coming on board. So thank you. All right on that note the motion was made. It's been second if there no other comments, all in favor of motion please indicate. [0:25:05, 0:25:07]: I do have a comment. [0:25:09, 0:25:29]: Okay. Excuse me. What's your comment, please? My concern is um if we turn this particular initiative into a city event, then all the other events that have been successful, if we decide to turn those into city events, ten thousand dollars. [0:25:29, 0:25:30]: And it's up. [0:25:30, 0:25:31]: Quickly. [0:25:31, 0:25:35]: With major capital projects that have already been approved. [0:25:35, 0:25:49]: It just concerns me with the way that we're spending money. I know that this back to school program, it is a hit um for the kids in this community, but ten thousand dollars just seems a bit much, but [0:25:49, 0:26:09]: Okay, let me no let me I'm gonna answer this first. I will tell you that um several initiatives that become city events may not be ten thousand dollars. And a class example, believe it or not, is nine eleven. It was originally my initiative and it turned into a city event, but it doesn't cost that much. See, so it really depends on what it is. You see, it may not be ten thousand. I think uh for [0:26:09, 0:26:11]: For nine eleven is is less than a thousand. [0:26:12, 0:26:23]: You know, in that aspect. So it's a small, small amount, but it but it's it is a city event. But initially started with me, uh in that aspect. But anyway, I just want to s put that on the record. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Mayor, let me uh just say something real quick. [0:26:25, 0:26:29]: Back to school kickoff is not a hit. It's a service. [0:26:30, 0:26:34]: A hit is used when you're talking about something that's [0:26:35, 0:26:43]: Not a service. This is not a hit. This is a service. It services schools or surrounding schools with book bags, supplies. [0:26:44, 0:26:48]: And it gives that to elementary school, middle school, high school, and we do teacher bags. [0:26:49, 0:26:54]: And if we get donations that are odd donations, we donate those to the schools. It's a service. [0:26:55, 0:27:02]: So if we want to call a service a hit, then so be it. But I call it a service. And that's what we're all here for is to serve the citizens. [0:27:02, 0:27:03]: All right. [0:27:03, 0:27:05]: Mayor. Yeah. Okay. [0:27:05, 0:27:15]: Okay. One more time. I used the wrong term. However, my point still stands. All right. I am concerned with [0:27:15, 0:27:20]: the expenses and the fact that I know as a council initiative [0:27:20, 0:27:24]: sponsorship was used. I do have um a printout [0:27:25, 0:27:42]: from last year expenses that total up to roughly seven thousand dollars. So it lets me know that approximately um seven thousand dollars was spent for this event. Why are we, if we're gonna be seeking sponsorships, why are we now [0:27:43, 0:27:50]: wanting to budget ten thousand dollars for this particular event if the city is gonna also be using sponsorships too. [0:27:52, 0:28:10]: My understanding earlier explanation was it's just it's a number to utilize. It may not go that far to go uh emphasize sponsorships and it's a placeholder, I would say. Well, five thousand dollars would be a good placeholder. Well that right now we do have a motion on the floor, it's been set. Okay. Okay. So unless there's other no other further comments. Yes, sir. We're briefly. [0:28:11, 0:28:11]: Commissioner? [0:28:12, 0:28:14]: I I think we got a second over here. [0:28:14, 0:28:31]: Um this this this initiative um us and service is real sensitive to me because um I conducted the very first one in in twenty fifteen and and I know the the impact. [0:28:31, 0:28:51]: I know the the work that goes involved. So it's real sensitive to me and and and I appreciate uh Councilman Blount taking it over uh the very next year because I I left the council and and he took it over and took it to the next level. Right. And I and I think in in many of our [0:28:51, 0:28:53]: Service projects [0:28:53, 0:28:54]: Um [0:28:55, 0:29:02]: We need to actually to grow it as opposed to uh standing at the quote. [0:29:02, 0:29:05]: Right. But definitely not going back in it. [0:29:05, 0:29:11]: Uh so this is I'm very sensitive to this and I do understand the need [0:29:11, 0:29:16]: Ак, а с something that I will never forget. [0:29:16, 0:29:21]: the first year and we was out in the hot sun, now we do it indoor. [0:29:21, 0:29:25]: But the smiles and the laughter [0:29:25, 0:29:28]: on those parents' faces and those kids. [0:29:28, 0:29:32]: Uh, you had a parent that that had five and six kids. [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: And it was no way. [0:29:34, 0:29:45]: uh for her to be able to make these purchases book bags stuffed with these school items. You know, when we was in school, uh all we had to do was just show up. [0:29:46, 0:29:50]: But now these kids are required to come in with calculators and [0:29:50, 0:30:10]: And markers and pencils, certain types of pencils. So uh and I uh I as we are conversating, I still can see those faces of those kids and those parents. So um I understand this this conversation and this dialogue, but I'm just hoping that you know we can continue and we can continue to bring [0:30:10, 0:30:18]: Bring the smiles and the laughter to these parents and to these kids' faces. [0:30:18, 0:30:22]: Motion is made. It's been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:30:22, 0:30:25]: All opposed. Are you are you for or against? [0:30:27, 0:30:44]: I approved. Excuse me? You approved? Yes, sir. So it's unanimous. All right. Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Um the next one we added was House Bill 937, uh, which is is which is actually a um what you call it a design standards preemption bill. [0:30:44, 0:31:04]: It's a new revised bill. Uh last year it was actually House Bill 302, but they revised it somewhat. And this is this actually takes against home rule. It was going to allow the the legislature to have design guidelines for each all the cities. Whereas that we need to be have home rule and we need to control all our design. [0:31:04, 0:31:20]: standards in our own Pacific community. And I wanted us to have this discussion and to uh look at updating this resolution and pose it actually. So on that note, I don't know if if the attorney wants to spend anything else on this at all, or Mr. Knight, and then we'll open it up for any further. [0:31:21, 0:31:30]: No sir. I mean this is essentially the same resolution you all approved last year, just with a different number for the bill. And so I would encourage you all [0:31:33, 0:31:40]: Okay. Any f any comments else from the council at all? Yes. Go right in, sir. Uh uh this bill so the public understands and everybody. [0:31:41, 0:31:46]: Who's tuned in, you understand. It's critical that you talk to your legislators, you talk to the [0:31:47, 0:31:48]: The senators to let them know. [0:31:49, 0:32:09]: That this bill is a bad bill. We believe in home rule. We've established things in this community like 50% brick construction. That's key. We've established things in different areas such as uh the cut the um cement fiber board, no vinyl. Those things protect the value of [0:32:09, 0:32:29]: Of your home. That's right. It keeps unwanted businesses out of our community, and it is key. If we lose that, we lose control of what we have in this community. Right. And we need you, not just us, to call and demand that your senators and your representatives oppose the [0:32:29, 0:32:35]: this bill and keep the control in our hands so we can give you the community that you want, not [0:32:36, 0:32:37]: What the builders want. [0:32:38, 0:32:51]: All right, any further comments from the council? Yes, sir. Uh Mr. Mayor, I I move that we support a resolution opposing nine thirty seven. All right, so second. Second. Okay, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:32:51, 0:33:11]: Fantastic. Appreciate that. Uh what's next is uh comments from me. Madam Clerk, you can time me on this, please. Uh obviously month uh uh March is Women's History Month. We've already started off the month and the first day of the month with recognition of uh several different uh influential women in the in the community and recognize those volunteers that helped. [0:33:11, 0:33:15]: out with this process earlier tonight. Uh so we'll continue to recognize and [0:33:16, 0:33:36]: And thank women for all the all that you do in the community, not only for this month, but each and every day. Right? Each and every day. And uh so I thank you ladies uh for being being there and and doing what you do to keep our family straight and do things in the community as you you done. The other thing I'd like to mention is that um Friday evening I had the luxury to [0:33:36, 0:33:44]: Go down to Macon, Georgia, to watch the Dutchtown Bulldogs boys basketball team win the state championship. [0:33:46, 0:33:57]: Five A championships for Dutchtown High School, the boys, first time in school history. I believe it's only second time a um public high school in Henry County w took a state championship in basketball. [0:33:57, 0:34:17]: E was landing did it about in 2013. So congratulations to those Bulldogs. And I have to admit, I understand I'm the mayor of the city, but I have to I'm a little biased to Dutch Cow. My one only child went to Dutch Town. And I was a proud I was with a cheerleader, so I was a proud cheer dad. So I really appreciate that. But fantastic. [0:34:17, 0:34:37]: Absolutely. There you go. So on that note though, I want you all folks to know that continue to keep the faith. The city's gonna move forward. The council's gonna make sure that along with your yeah, with your comments and the ideas and things that you have to say. We have a listener for that move everything forward. Oh yes, and also [0:34:37, 0:34:40]: [2080.3, 2100.3]: All right, have to be safe to wash your hands, twenty seconds or more, use a lot of hand sanitizer. Be comfortable with that, whether you put bump bump fists, elbows, whatever the case may be. And of course if you don't feel right or feel sick or whatnot, make sure you stay home, don't go to school. And hopefully this thing uh get over pretty quickly. Uh obviously starting to change things we do in our society. [0:35:00, 0:35:20]: Be careful and uh be safe and make sure you once again wash the hands clearly and uh few and use a lot of hand sanitizer. All right. And we'll do that here at City Council as well as uh at the city itself. When you come to the city, we'll make sure we're very careful about that as well. On that note, uh I will read some uh [0:35:20, 0:35:21]: Some meetings here. [0:35:21, 0:35:31]: Downtown Development Authority Meeting Tuesday, March 17th, uh 6 P.M. Levi uh meeting room. Uh Council Advisory Committee meeting room is Tuesday, March seventeenth. [0:35:31, 0:35:35]: At uh six thirty Patrick Henry meeting room. There's a town hall. [0:35:36, 0:35:52]: on this uh on the seventeenth as well, North at Mural Manage Conference Center and dealing with Norfolk Southern Railroad and uh uh potential cross uh closing of of Nolan Street closing and will be part of the main uh topic there along with the discussion of quiet zone in reference to a downtown area. [0:35:52, 0:36:02]: New council meetings Wednesday, March 18th at 5 30 PM in Levi Meeting Room. Planning Commission meeting is Thursday, March 26th, 630 in the City Hall Council Chambers. [0:36:03, 0:36:07]: Our next work session is Tuesday, March thirty first, six P. M. right here in the council chambers. [0:36:09, 0:36:29]: Upcoming events. So you have the Bingo Bash March 25th at uh noon at Merle Manders Commerce Center, spearheaded by Castman Blount. And then also tomorrow night, which is March 10th, it will be a town hall in the Eagles Landing area at Savane Funeral Home that starts at 6 p.m. as well. On that note, uh that [0:36:29, 0:36:41]: That is all the announcements and we have an executive session. And uh I need a motion to go to executive session, please. Mayor, I move that we go to executive session for real estate personnel and litigation. Okay, is there a second? [0:36:42, 0:36:48]: Perfect. Okay, all in favor of going to exec session, please indicate. Thank you very much. Folks, we'll go into exec session. We'll be back in a little bit. [0:37:42, 0:37:42]: Tired. [0:38:24, 0:38:30]: Oh yeah, well we got [1:09:51, 1:09:51]: Right. [1:10:01, 1:10:10]: [4249.9, 4252.5]: Yes, it's shocked we really. [1:11:08, 1:11:21]: I I didn't want to cough in the room. I'm gonna give it to you all. No, hey, it's it'll disappear before we get over that. [1:12:45, 1:12:47]: Today. Yeah. [1:15:02, 1:15:04]: Yeah, yeah. [1:18:41, 1:18:46]: I know it's the problem on my head. [1:21:53, 1:21:56]: But if that she's a I mean, I don't know about kids in a protocol. [1:22:08, 1:22:10]: Even [1:22:40, 1:22:41]: Also this is really hard. [1:22:42, 1:22:44]: I'm visiting the afternoon. [1:22:45, 1:22:45]: Okay. [1:22:46, 1:22:53]: Well who's hanging out to one of your latest gas? I think it's a new I would be on. [1:23:16, 1:23:17]: I don't see it. [1:23:21, 1:23:23]: Good luck. [1:39:00, 1:39:03]: Oh yeah, sorry. I'm not actually. [1:39:33, 1:39:35]: [5999.0, 6001.0]: Is earlier and I know. [1:58:24, 1:58:25]: It is. [1:58:26, 1:58:27]: I think. [1:58:28, 1:58:30]: No, we're still meeting. [1:58:50, 1:58:51]: Mm-hmm. [1:59:26, 1:59:27]: Interesting so [1:59:37, 1:59:39]: Later, I should say. [2:00:29, 2:00:30]: No. [2:00:33, 2:00:33]: Okay. [2:00:38, 2:00:40]: But yeah, we're going to call the thing. [2:00:41, 2:00:43]: Central. [2:00:43, 2:00:50]: She tracked it and I didn't say one. Well I asked her what was she said to me. She said she lost it. [2:01:11, 2:01:13]: Yeah. [2:02:01, 2:02:05]: Yeah. It's a lookouts one day. [2:02:24, 2:02:25]: Yeah. [2:41:52, 2:41:55]: Or we go find that. [2:42:04, 2:42:06]: It'll be all right. [2:42:53, 2:42:56]: Mike, before you go on, need to talk with you. [2:43:08, 2:43:09]: You ready, ma'am? [2:43:23, 2:43:26]: Yeah we do, but she's she's gotta be in place though. [2:44:17, 2:44:20]: Huh? No, we're gonna be all right. [2:44:41, 2:45:01]: Okay. Council, I need a motion to end the executive session, please. So move. Is it a second? Okay, seconds down here. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you. Need a motion now to reconvene our council meeting, please. So move. Is there a second? All right. All in favor, please indicate. We have nothing to report from the executive session, so I need [2:45:01, 2:45:06]: motion to end our council meeting. Is there a second? All right. Yes ma't [2:45:10, 2:45:14]: Okay, thank you. You I imagine you have a good time on that as well. [2:45:15, 2:45:19]: Call in favor of ending our council mean please indicate. [2:45:19, 2:45:21]: Meetings adjourned.