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--- title: March 8 2021 City Council Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-03-08 source: 2021-03-08_March_8_2021_City_Council_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:16, 0:00:19]: I'm sorry. Webinar is now live. [0:01:01, 0:01:03]: You're muted, Mr. Mayor. [0:01:07, 0:01:11]: Vanessa, I'm sorry, I was muted myself. I need your help, Vanessa. [0:01:11, 0:01:13]: The sixteenth of March. [0:01:14, 0:01:22]: Which is actually the voting day. Is that only at uh the elections office or is that at several locations around the the county? [0:01:29, 0:01:32]: Okay. She must not be able to hear me. [0:01:35, 0:01:35]: Vanessa? [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: Maybe she can't hear me. [0:01:49, 0:01:52]: Councilman Thomas, how you doing, sir? Alrighty. [0:01:53, 0:01:57]: Ms. Gance on Vanessa, can you hear me? [0:02:13, 0:02:17]: She can't hear at the moment. I'm working with her now to fix that. Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [0:02:18, 0:02:19]: How you doing, Mr. Blount? [0:02:22, 0:02:24]: Hello, sir. Good evening, everyone. [0:03:04, 0:03:04]: Yeah. [0:03:18, 0:03:20]: And ladies and gentlemen, we are now live on Facebook as well. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: Mr. Bond, is Vanessa's volume straightened out yet? [0:03:48, 0:03:51]: Not yet. I'm just not remote and search machine. Okay, thank you. [0:04:05, 0:04:25]: Okay, are you able to hear me now? Let me see if I can hear you, Mayor Ford. Absolutely, I can hear you. Okay, thank you. I hear you as well. Well, good deal. Uh I was trying to ask you earlier. Um on the 16th of March for the that's election day. Is that is that election only held at the registration office? [0:04:25, 0:04:27]: office of Madonna or do we have multiple sites around the county? [0:04:28, 0:04:36]: On election day, you go to your normal polling place. Okay. On election day. That that answers the question then. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Okay. [0:04:36, 0:04:40]: And on that note, I have uh six o'clock and [0:04:40, 0:04:44]: We have a quorum. Everybody is present. [0:04:44, 0:04:52]: Okay. So we just start I'm like to call this uh March eighth council meeting to order. I have six o'clock. [0:04:52, 0:04:57]: And uh invocation. Uh Councilwoman Gantt could you please give the invocation? [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: Yes, thank you. [0:05:00, 0:05:01]: Maybe bar heads. [0:05:04, 0:05:07]: Father God, we please give us strength and wisdom. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: To guide our decisions. [0:05:10, 0:05:10]: And put [0:05:11, 0:05:13]: Our love for our city first. [0:05:14, 0:05:18]: Surround us with people from all walks of life and many backgrounds. [0:05:20, 0:05:25]: We ask that you be with us and allow us to make the right decisions. [0:05:25, 0:05:28]: not for ourselves, but for [0:05:28, 0:05:30]: The city of Stockbridge. [0:05:31, 0:05:32]: We pray for integrity. [0:05:33, 0:05:39]: that we have the best interest of the city of Stockbridge, our citizens, our country, and our nation. [0:05:40, 0:05:47]: Father God, we also ask that you pray for those families that have lost loved ones during this awful pandemic. [0:05:48, 0:05:50]: We pray that you grant us wisdom. [0:05:51, 0:05:52]: And keep us. [0:05:52, 0:05:54]: safe during these times. [0:05:55, 0:05:56]: In your name we pray. Amen. [0:05:57, 0:05:58]: Amen. [0:05:59, 0:06:00]: Amen. [0:06:00, 0:06:04]: Okay, pledge of allegiance. Uh please stand for pledge of allegiance, ladies and gentlemen. [0:06:07, 0:06:20]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic where it stands, nation, under God, undervisable, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:23, 0:06:25]: Roll call, Madam Kirk, please. [0:06:29, 0:06:31]: Mayor Ford. Was it [0:06:32, 0:06:33]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:06:34, 0:06:34]: Where is it? [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: Present. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: Councilman Blount. [0:06:40, 0:06:40]: Present. [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:43, 0:06:43]: Present. [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Councilman Thomas. [0:06:45, 0:06:46]: Present. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? [0:06:48, 0:06:53]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:06:54, 0:06:56]: So moved. Is there a second? [0:06:58, 0:07:02]: Castleman Blount, second Zette, got his hand there. All in favor, please indicate. [0:07:03, 0:07:05]: Yeah, see you announced decision. Thank you very much. [0:07:06, 0:07:10]: What we have before you council, we have several different uh meeting minutes uh for approval. [0:07:11, 0:07:14]: The January eleventh uh meeting council work, excuse me, council uh [0:07:15, 0:07:17]: uh meeting on on January eleventh. [0:07:18, 0:07:23]: uh the actual um special call meeting on january fifteenth. [0:07:24, 0:07:35]: And then the council work session, which was on uh January twenty-sixth. If there are no changes to this, but these any of these agendas, or excuse me, any of these minutes, then I need a motion to approve them, please. [0:07:37, 0:07:41]: Oh move. Okay, Mayor Pro Tem second made that motion is a second. [0:07:41, 0:07:46]: Mr. Blount, do I see your hand second? Mr. Blount, second that again. All right, appreciate it. All in favor, please indicate. [0:07:47, 0:07:49]: All right, fantastic. All right. [0:07:50, 0:07:55]: What I have next, ladies and gentlemen, is a proclamation honoring Women's History Month, the month of March. [0:07:56, 0:08:02]: From the first settlers who came to our shores, from the first American Indian families who befriended them. [0:08:03, 0:08:06]: Men and women have worked together to build this nation. [0:08:06, 0:08:11]: Too often the women were unsung and sometimes the contributions were unnoticed. [0:08:11, 0:08:21]: But the achievements, leadership, courage, strength, and love of the women who built America was vital as that much of the men whose names we know so well. [0:08:22, 0:08:34]: This was President Jimmy Carter's message uh designating March second to March eighth, uh, nineteen eighty as National Women's History Week. This is a quote from him. I'll continue on to proclamation. [0:08:34, 0:08:39]: Whereas every year March is designated Women's History Month by presidential proclamation. [0:08:40, 0:09:00]: The month is set aside to honor women's contributions in American history. And whereas Women's History Month began as a local celebration in Santa Rosa, California, the Education Task Force of Sonoma County, California Commission on the Status of Women planned and executed a Women's History Week celebration of 1915. [0:09:00, 0:09:01]: Yeah. [0:09:01, 0:09:14]: The organizers selected the week of March 8th to correspond with International Women's Day. The movement spread across the country as other communities initiated their own Women's History Week celebrations the following year. [0:09:14, 0:09:25]: And whereas in February nineteen eighty, President Jimmy Carter issued the first presidential proclamation declaring the week of March eighth, nineteen eighty, as National Women's History Week. [0:09:26, 0:09:30]: And where subsequently presidents continue to proclaim in National H women's History Week. [0:09:31, 0:09:33]: In March until nineteen eighty seven. [0:09:33, 0:09:36]: When Congress passed public law one hundred dash nine. [0:09:36, 0:09:39]: Designating March as a women's history month. [0:09:39, 0:09:57]: And whereas the women's excuse me, whereas the National Women's History Alliance selects and publishes the yearly theme, the theme of Women's History Month for 2021 captures the spirit of these challenging times. Since many of the women's suffrage centennial celebrations originally scheduled for 2020 were curtailed. [0:09:57, 0:10:00]: The National Women's History Alliance is extending the annual theme. [0:10:01, 0:10:11]: For 2021, vigilant women of the vote, refusing to be silenced. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority invested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:10:12, 0:10:17]: And on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeesa Gantt and Afonso Thomas. [0:10:17, 0:10:36]: to hereby proclaim March twenty twenty one as Women's History Month in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of March of our year of our Lord, two thousand twenty one. I signed this along with our clerk for Nessa Holliday. [0:10:36, 0:10:41]: Congratulations, lady. We what we wish you well and honor you this month. [0:10:41, 0:10:46]: Actually we should men we should honor them every day of every year, but they have their own special month as well. [0:10:46, 0:10:52]: On that note, um what we have next would be any type of public comments. [0:10:52, 0:10:56]: Uh Ms. Holliday, do we have any public comments at all? There are no public comments, sir. [0:10:56, 0:10:57]: Okay. [0:10:57, 0:11:00]: Uh so we have a public hearing. [0:11:00, 0:11:20]: And the public hearing deals the first one deals with council consideration to approve the final adoption of 2020 to 2025 short-term work program and capital improvement element SCWP slash CIE presented by Mr. Knight. Go ahead, sir, please. Yes, Mayor and Council. Uh thank you this evening. Uh this is the [0:11:20, 0:11:24]: um short term work program capital improvement element. [0:11:24, 0:11:30]: This document you've seen before, uh, you transmitted this uh back, I believe, in uh January. [0:11:30, 0:11:35]: to the Atlanta Regional Commission and then the Department of Community Affairs. [0:11:35, 0:11:38]: Uh the process is once you transmit it. [0:11:38, 0:11:43]: Uh they review it for completeness and they provide their approval. [0:11:44, 0:11:48]: Which they have. Uh nothing has changed. There was one item [0:11:48, 0:11:51]: on there where something got transposed and [0:11:51, 0:11:57]: It did not get uh the actual project name was not in there, but all of the funds were in there. That was a very minor change. [0:11:58, 0:12:00]: Which they asked us to make, I think it was more of a [0:12:00, 0:12:02]: Either a scriveners or typo error. [0:12:03, 0:12:08]: We've made that change uh and now the process is that you we request that you adopt it. [0:12:08, 0:12:11]: And it becomes a part. [0:12:11, 0:12:16]: of our updated uh annual short-term work program in CIE. [0:12:17, 0:12:37]: Uh thank you, sir. And this states is a public hearing. So obviously this is something that I need to open up, open and potentially close for any comments from the public if that's the case. So uh Mr. Uh Quentin, I believe that is what I need to do at this point, since it's a public hearing. And if that is the case, I'd like to open up this public hearing and reference. [0:12:37, 0:12:38]: two this um [0:12:38, 0:12:51]: the final adoption of the 2020 to 2025 short-term work program. So are there any comments from the citizens uh that may have a comment for any positive comments uh that you would want to say at this time. [0:12:52, 0:12:53]: Any anybody at all? [0:12:55, 0:12:56]: Yeah. [0:12:56, 0:12:58]: Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. Who's we spoke? [0:12:58, 0:13:14]: It might be helpful. We just, you know, we use a lot of jargon sometimes. The public might not actually know what this is. So it would be helpful maybe if the staff could give a brief summary of what's going on. Because I mean we say short-term work program, they might not know what this is. [0:13:15, 0:13:28]: All right. Well, thank you very much. I'm gonna go back to you, Mr. Mr. Knighton, for further explanation. Okay, sure. Thank you. Okay. Sure. The short-term work program and capital improvement element are essentially a part of an overall comprehensive plan. [0:13:28, 0:13:32]: which the uh city uh adopted a couple of years ago. [0:13:33, 0:13:41]: And basically, every year you provide an annual update to that comprehensive plan, short-term work program, and capital improvement element. All of the projects. [0:13:42, 0:13:46]: Infrastructure projects, public works projects, civic um projects. [0:13:46, 0:13:51]: uh should be a part of that overall uh short term work program and in CIE. [0:13:52, 0:14:04]: And basically it's a five-year window and it provides an estimated funding amount and funding source of how those projects are going to be planned and how those projects are going to be paid for. [0:14:04, 0:14:08]: Something that's done annually. It's required by ARC Atlanta Regional Commission. [0:14:09, 0:14:12]: And then the Department of Community Affairs, DCA, will review it. [0:14:13, 0:14:16]: Uh, which they've done. Uh they've provided their approval. [0:14:16, 0:14:19]: And now the process is that it comes back for actual adoption. [0:14:20, 0:14:28]: Um, it is a guide for us as we go forward uh with the capital projects, infrastructure projects, how they're going to be funded. [0:14:28, 0:14:30]: Via splast, via general fund. [0:14:30, 0:14:33]: Um, beer other mechanisms, bonding, grants, etcetera. [0:14:36, 0:14:36]: Thank you, sir. [0:14:37, 0:14:57]: Um okay. I'd like to go back to the phone to open up the public hearing. If there are any questions for any um citizens that or concerns they may have, or I'll say open it up and any comments for uh this particular uh program, yeah, for this for us to approve this night. Any any comments for any citizens? And uh I [0:14:58, 0:15:18]: I don't see anything at this point. Okay. If there are any comments against this particular program for the next five years, the projects that we have. Any any comments against? Once again, I don't see any. So since I don't see any for or against, then um I will close the public hearing and I'll take this to the council for. [0:15:18, 0:15:23]: or any type of concerns they may have and or a motion to accept the this process. [0:15:24, 0:15:25]: Yes, Mayor Pro Tem. [0:15:27, 0:15:29]: You're you're muted, may I protect? [0:15:29, 0:15:49]: Thank you. Sorry about that now. I just want to say briefly to the public so you understand thoroughly what we're talking about here. Uh projects like uh the amphitheater, the culture arts center, uh, the youth senior recreation center. This city has endeavored and we have put together a comprehensive plan to spell out. [0:15:49, 0:16:06]: uh all of the projects uh in intense in in intense form so that we can uh have a plan for the city. Um uh miss maybe Mr. Knight might better add a little bit more to that. We uh actually passed our first uh independent uh [0:16:06, 0:16:26]: uh comprehensive plan in the history of the city. We previously did this uh in coordination with Henry County, but uh we wanted to have a detailed plan and we put that together uh for the city to make sure that we charted the course. So you know the public wants to understand that sometimes they say, well we don't we don't understand where this coming from. [0:16:26, 0:16:27]: What that comes? [0:16:28, 0:16:31]: Take a look at what it is that we have on our comprehensive plan. [0:16:32, 0:16:35]: And you can see where the vision is for the city. [0:16:36, 0:16:39]: Thank you, appreciate that. Any any other comments from yes uh [0:16:39, 0:16:45]: Councilman Gantt go ahead. Councilman Gantt clear, please. Well, before I make a motion, I want to um [0:16:45, 0:16:58]: But Miss Braggs is trying to get on. I need IT to know she's trying to get on. She's on the outside comp trying to get in. Um, I would like to make a motion to approve this for the on this item on the agenda tonight. [0:16:59, 0:17:00]: Okay, is there a second? [0:17:01, 0:17:05]: Sorry, uh miss I got Miss Barber, uh Council one barber, I saw her hand. [0:17:06, 0:17:09]: Okay. Any further she seconds that any further conversation? [0:17:10, 0:17:12]: Yes. Yes, uh Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [0:17:12, 0:17:18]: Mayor, I also want the um the public to to be aware that when we talk about [0:17:18, 0:17:23]: A comprehensive plan for the city and the direction we would like the city the city to go. [0:17:23, 0:17:39]: Uh besides that, in that direction, we're also gonna be uh taxed with having a plan in place versus funding and how we move about doing these projects and bringing this to fruition uh pertaining to the comprehensive plan. [0:17:40, 0:17:53]: This doesn't say that. This is just showing the vision of what we want to do with the city. Uh by no means this is in agreement to anything we've done for as funding for these projects or any of this plan. I just want to make that clear. [0:17:55, 0:17:57]: All right, sir. Appreciate that. Any other comments from the council at all? [0:17:58, 0:18:04]: Okay, seeing none. So okay, we have a motion on the floor. It's been a motion is made by Ms. Gantt, second by um [0:18:04, 0:18:11]: Uh uh Councilman Barber. Uh Councilman Barber, second that. As so if no further discussion, all favor motion, please indicate. [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: Okay, you now see thank you very much. Okay. [0:18:15, 0:18:17]: We'll move on. Once again, this is a public hearing. [0:18:17, 0:18:33]: Next topic, council consideration to prove uh rezoning case RZ 2020-02. Applicant Neil Cobell uh requests the rezoning of certain property from RA residential architectural articultural. [0:18:33, 0:18:36]: district to our three single family residential district. [0:18:37, 0:18:40]: To allow for the development of a single family residential subdivision. [0:18:41, 0:18:44]: The property is located in land lot twenty nine of district seven. [0:18:44, 0:18:47]: Within the Starbury city limits along the southeast corner. [0:18:48, 0:19:07]: of Brandon Road and North Selman uh uh uh Salem Road Drive. It contains 73.71 total acres, which previously consisted of five parcels. The Planning Commission approved the recombination of the five parcels to form just one parcel at its last meeting on December 17, 2020. [0:19:07, 0:19:13]: This occurred via recombination plant case RC dash 2020-03. [0:19:13, 0:19:33]: Which had the same applicant as the rezoning the rezoning case. For the record, the parcels were as follows: 732 Brandon Road, parcel uh 088-02049000, 664 Brandon Road, parcel 00, excuse me, 088. [0:19:33, 0:19:37]: Zero two zero five zero zero zero zero. [0:19:37, 0:19:57]: Um 618 Brandon Road parcel 088 Dash 02051000 Large parcel on Brandon Road Um parcel 00 excuse me zero eight eight zero two zero four nine zero zero five a small parcel on North Salem Drive parcel [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: zero eight eight that's zero two zero. [0:20:00, 0:20:02]: Flour four five zero zero zero. [0:20:02, 0:20:06]: And this is going to be presented tonight by Mr. Knighton, please. [0:20:09, 0:20:21]: Yes, Mayor Ford, thank you. Um Linda Logan, the senior planner, is on. I will allow her to go through a presentation that will speak to uh the proposal in more detail, including. [0:20:21, 0:20:40]: Some aerial photographs, location maps, and also uh relevant items in the staff report, including the staff recommendation. So I'll turn it over to Linda and I believe she will be sharing her screen to provide a presentation to the panel here and to the viewing audience as well. [0:20:49, 0:20:51]: Linda, you may need to unmute Linda. [0:20:51, 0:20:52]: Thank you, muted. [0:21:03, 0:21:05]: Linda, I believe you're muted. [0:21:07, 0:21:09]: Here we go. Is that better? Right. Yes, thank you. [0:21:10, 0:21:30]: Okay, everyone can see this now. So this is the cover page here. Um proposal to to rezone a property from RA Residential Agricultural to R3 Single Family Uh Residential. And this was presented to the Planning Commission on February 25 recently, and then here we are tonight on March. [0:21:30, 0:21:30]: March eight. [0:21:31, 0:21:33]: So first to show uh [0:21:34, 0:21:37]: where the property is located. This is a city zoning map. [0:21:37, 0:21:57]: And the property is down here in the southeast corner. This uh yellow parcel here. I have a couple of enlargements. I'm sure everyone's probably familiar with the area. I'll just go through this quickly. It's this um parcel here and even further here, and it shows the it how it was used to be the five parcels as you can see. [0:21:57, 0:22:01]: see here. This will this here is an existing cell tower that is to remain. [0:22:02, 0:22:13]: Here's an aerial photograph of the area. We have Brandon Road straight up and down and North Salem Drive here. And that's where the cell tower is. And then the property is in this area. [0:22:16, 0:22:20]: We have uh some enlargements in this aerial photo here. [0:22:20, 0:22:25]: Uh I'll just go through these quickly. It shows all the surrounding parcels. [0:22:25, 0:22:27]: Okay, this was um [0:22:28, 0:22:33]: discussed more during the recombination. The applicant submitted this survey of the property. [0:22:34, 0:22:52]: Uh here is an aerial photo of the surrounding area. Brandon Road is is here in the center. Here's the part subject parcel. We have Clark Meadows subdivision across the street, Moss Point subdivision, Summit at Eagles Landing here, Highlands at Eagles Landing. [0:22:52, 0:22:53]: Um [0:22:53, 0:22:55]: Is a summit uh [0:22:55, 0:23:04]: Uh Westminster subdivision over in this area, these are in the in the county outside of city limits. Crown Walk, Mount Most Point. [0:23:05, 0:23:25]: Uh let's see. So again, rezoning request um is by Neil Koble, uh Developers Liberty Communities. We have a traffic engineer, uh Mark Akampora, attorney's battle law. Um, so the request is rezone the uh the property is said from RA to R3. The proposed name is [0:23:24, 0:23:37]: the reserve at Hickory Hills. Those are the five parcels that were listed. Signs were posted last year. This case was deferred a couple of times by the Planning Commission. [0:23:37, 0:23:43]: Um and two private community meetings were held on January twenty-first and February eighteenth. [0:23:46, 0:24:06]: Okay, we've covered some of this already. So surrounding zoning, um Clark Meadows subdivision across the street, zone PD plan development. That's an old category. The city no longer has that, but at that time included R3 and R3. So Clark Meadows is a combination of those two zoning districts. [0:24:06, 0:24:21]: Moss Point adjacent to it, zone R2, and we have some RA districts around it. The future land use map shows low density residential for this site. It allows 1.5 to two units per acre. [0:24:22, 0:24:30]: Um, there were no previous rezoning cases that were found. Um, where the cell tower is located was annexed in the city in 2004. [0:24:31, 0:24:44]: The R3 district and purpose it allows smaller lots as plant part of a planned development as long as it has public sewer. There is not public sewer there now, but the developer plans to extend it to the site. [0:24:44, 0:24:51]: Minimum lot requirements at least 12,000 square feet and um overall size is 75 feet wide. [0:24:52, 0:24:57]: And for each uh lot, minimum house size is 1050 square feet. [0:24:58, 0:25:02]: Uh the property has a floodplain near the center of the property. [0:25:03, 0:25:12]: Um, there are rural and agricultural uses surrounding it. Here's a few of the signs that we posted on property. This one's at North Salem Drive. [0:25:13, 0:25:17]: Um this one's near near the cell tower. [0:25:18, 0:25:24]: There's a silo on the property just as a reference. The further down the street, this one's across from Moss Point subdivision. [0:25:25, 0:25:27]: Here is the latest site plan that the [0:25:28, 0:25:42]: uh developer the applicant has submitted to us this is br Brandon road here up and down uh for reference spray berry drive comes comes in here north salem drive up here at the top um [0:25:42, 0:25:55]: There is uh floodplain areas here in the center. So the main access point or the only access point would be here. Now this is uh south of Spray Ray Drive, so around the center of the property. [0:25:55, 0:25:59]: Okay, I'll go be going into some more detail about that. [0:25:59, 0:26:16]: Um this is just a general um view of how it might look from the air with the two two um amenate areas proposed. One have an existing pond in the southwest corner, there'd be amenities here, and then some other amenities here in the center. [0:26:19, 0:26:35]: All right, here's an enlargement of the entrance area, Brandon Road. It would be a boulevard style divided and there would be turn lanes here provided on on Brandon Road. There would be some plantings and the monument sign. [0:26:35, 0:26:36]: Um [0:26:36, 0:26:38]: Here at the corner. [0:26:38, 0:26:39]: Oh. [0:26:40, 0:26:52]: All right. One other thing I want to mention back here on the site plan, very important. These 11 lots here fronting on Brandon Road, starting here from this corner lot, from here. [0:26:53, 0:26:58]: Down here into the corner, these eleven lots, they would all have at least fifteen thousand square feet. [0:26:59, 0:27:05]: a front of John to Brandon Road, the same as what is in the most point subdivision across the street. [0:27:07, 0:27:27]: Okay, so as I said, acceleration decelerations, the lanes would be provided at the entrance. Um, I mentioned about the 11 lots. A homeowners association would maintain the common areas, amenities, and landscaping along Brandon Road. There would be 50-foot-wide buffer surrounding the property and a fence at the northern property line. Um [0:27:27, 0:27:39]: Henry County Water Authority said water service is available, but the developer would be required to extend a sewer line to the site and that easements might need to be obtained. [0:27:40, 0:28:00]: All right, this is an enlargement of um some information on a site plan. There would be 139 unit lots and 139 uh units of houses, minimum lot width 75 feet, minimum lot area 12,000 square feet. The average lot area 14,086. So this is more. [0:28:00, 0:28:08]: More than the minimum lot size of 12,000, there would be some lots, 12,000, but there would also be some that would be much larger. [0:28:09, 0:28:17]: Uh 20,000 or so uh square feet. Minimum front setback 50 feet, side yard setback 10 feet, rear 40 feet. [0:28:19, 0:28:30]: Uh the density, gross density, 1.89 units per acre. Uh net density. Now this is accounting for the floodplain areas where they cannot build on 3.09. [0:28:30, 0:28:33]: Опан спас almost twenty acres. [0:28:33, 0:28:37]: Um okay, total site area about 73 acres. [0:28:37, 0:28:42]: And net developable area net developable area about 45 acres. [0:28:44, 0:28:53]: Some of this I've covered already. Let's see. So 139 lots. Yeah, the home sizes applicant proposes to build 2,000 square foot homes. [0:28:54, 0:29:02]: Even though um district allows homes that are about half of that size, uh 1050 remember is the minimum um [0:29:02, 0:29:03]: Requirement. [0:29:04, 0:29:21]: Average lot size 14,086. Some lots would have 12,000. About half would have be be between 15 and 20,000. I mentioned about the 11 lots and also the uh sizes of all the lots, the uh width, width and and so forth. [0:29:22, 0:29:42]: Here's a diagram that the applicant provided to show a comparison of the lot sizes of this proposed subdivision, Hickory Hills, versus what exists at the Clark Meadows across the street. This first diagram shows Hickory Hills, and they would have proposed lot size, the minimum 12,000. [0:29:41, 0:30:01]: Square feet. Remember, some would be bigger, and there would be 20 feet in between the homes. Over here we have existing in Clark Meadows subdivision, a minimum size, lot size, only 7,500 square feet, and only 10 feet between homes. So we superimpose. [0:30:01, 0:30:02]: [1802.9, 1809.7]: the Hickory Hill subdivision on top of Clark Meadows. You see the difference here. I don't know what just happened. [0:30:10, 0:30:11]: Uh the green is the [0:30:12, 0:30:16]: Proposed subdivision and then the pink is is Clark Meadows. [0:30:19, 0:30:30]: All right, the amenities again community center will be located in the center. We would have a swimming pool with a shade structure, pavilion, open lawn area, walking trail, playground, a fire pit. [0:30:31, 0:30:34]: Plus a parking lot with forty seven parking spaces. [0:30:34, 0:30:38]: Um I'll show that in a moment and a pond area, pond amenity area. [0:30:39, 0:30:40]: At the southwest corner. [0:30:40, 0:30:41]: Um would have [0:30:42, 0:30:45]: Walking trail, pavilion, boachy ball courts, a fire print. [0:30:45, 0:30:47]: Pit and a male kiosk. [0:30:48, 0:30:51]: Okay, all homes would have brick on all four sides. [0:30:53, 0:30:54]: Okay. [0:30:54, 0:31:00]: This is an enlargement of the community center amenities near the center of the property. [0:31:00, 0:31:04]: Again, it would have open lawn, pavilion, fire playground. [0:31:04, 0:31:05]: Cool. [0:31:05, 0:31:09]: Uh a two thousand square feet and shade structure and in the parking area. [0:31:10, 0:31:10]: Here. [0:31:13, 0:31:24]: This is an enlargement of the pond area amenities. Um it would have a walking trail uh from here toward the pond, which has a [0:31:24, 0:31:25]: Has a dock on it. [0:31:27, 0:31:28]: Uh existing wetlands. [0:31:29, 0:31:33]: Uh would have a pavilion, fire print, the boche ball courts and a male kiosk. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: Here's a photograph showing um [0:31:37, 0:31:42]: An idea of what everything would look like, the proposed sign called the reserve at Hickory Hills. [0:31:43, 0:31:44]: And um [0:31:44, 0:31:57]: The community center here, these are plantings along the street on Brandon Road and some sample types of trees, bald cypress, cypress, cherry largo, laurel, cherry laurel, cryptomeria, and [0:31:58, 0:31:58]: It's um [0:31:59, 0:32:00]: Cedar and Magnolia. [0:32:01, 0:32:04]: This is what uh playground might look like. [0:32:06, 0:32:09]: And what the fire pits might look like. [0:32:10, 0:32:13]: And this is a picture of a boat boche ball court. [0:32:15, 0:32:18]: Okay, now a traffic impact study was prepared. [0:32:18, 0:32:27]: uh recently by Mark Ankopura, um uh PE traffic engineer on January twenty. That's just uh [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: Cover page. [0:32:29, 0:32:35]: Some of the findings of the study. Now this was based on the originally proposed 147 new homes. [0:32:36, 0:32:48]: Um, traffic counts were taken on January 7 at the proposed subdivision entrance during morning and afternoon peak hours, and two intersection analyses were made at Brandon Road and North Salem Drive. [0:32:49, 0:32:51]: And also Brandon Rhoda Spray Ray Drive. [0:32:52, 0:32:55]: Adjustment factors were made to account for [0:32:55, 0:32:58]: The pandemic and school not being open right now. [0:32:58, 0:33:11]: And also taking into consideration county and state requirements, planned transportation improvements. Um, that includes uh widening of highway 42 from downtown Mc McDonald uh through this area. [0:33:12, 0:33:15]: And uh travel pattern changes in the foreseeable future. [0:33:16, 0:33:17]: Due to the pandemic. [0:33:17, 0:33:30]: So the study said that existing traffic operations of vicinity were excellent, including intersection turning movements. Traffic volume growth has been minimal and is this is expected to continue. [0:33:30, 0:33:44]: Um, the subdivision was expected to generate 109 new morning peak hour trips and 147 afternoon peak hour trips, total of 1482. Now remember this was based on the 147 homes originally. [0:33:45, 0:33:50]: Only minor traffic increases intersection delays are expected due to subdivision. [0:33:51, 0:33:59]: Um Henry County and Georgia DOT would require that acceleration decelerations would be installed, and a site plan is already showing that. [0:33:59, 0:34:05]: And no other improvement traffic improvements are needed now or in the near future after subdivision is built. [0:34:06, 0:34:21]: This is a staff analysis, suitability of proposed subdivision. So we said that it's unlikely, and this information is in our staff report, it's unlikely that the property would develop into additional rural, residential, or agricultural uses due to its location. [0:34:22, 0:34:29]: Subdivision would be a reasonable use of the property due to the proximity of several other subdivisions adjacent to and surrounding the property. [0:34:30, 0:34:34]: Subdivision would meet the density requirements of the property's future land use plan. [0:34:34, 0:34:37]: Now so far as the suitability of the requested R three district. [0:34:38, 0:34:50]: So applicant would be able to develop the subdivision under R3 by if a sewer line is extended to the property according to the Henry County Water Authority's requirements. [0:34:50, 0:35:00]: And R three would allow the subdivision to have lots that are similar and comparable to lot sizes in Clark Meadows and Moss Point subdivisions, which already have a sewer lines. [0:35:01, 0:35:12]: uh propos suitability of proposed site plan. It would have a traditional design. There'd be no secondary access on North Salem Road, which um has very curvy, narrow, narrow road. [0:35:12, 0:35:17]: Uh the pond would be preserved and be a focal point for some amenities. [0:35:18, 0:35:23]: And the applicants proposing build many larger lots and larger homes than are required by R three. [0:35:24, 0:35:28]: About half the lots would have the minimum required size of twelve thousand square feet. [0:35:28, 0:35:36]: 11 lots along Brandon Road would have at least 15,000 square feet, and this would be compatible with the lots in Clark Meadows across the street. [0:35:37, 0:35:40]: All of the homes would have at least two thousand square feet. [0:35:40, 0:35:45]: making them almost double the of what the R three district requires, which is a thousand fifty. [0:35:45, 0:35:52]: Uh as far as impacts on pre adjacent properties, we're recommending a fence be installed along the northern property line. [0:35:54, 0:36:02]: Impacts on public schools. Um, the applicant did obtain a letter from Henry County Schools, McDonald District on October the 5th. [0:36:02, 0:36:10]: And uh they based uh their calculations on two students per residence and 25 students per classroom. [0:36:10, 0:36:23]: If there was 139 homes, 11 classrooms would be needed to serve an estimated 278 new students. However, cost of new classrooms would likely be offset by additional school taxes that subdivision residents would pay. [0:36:24, 0:36:31]: uh impacts on adjacent street. So the applicants, the trafficking study projects excellent traffic conditions, as I mentioned. [0:36:32, 0:36:40]: Uh turn lanes would be required, and the site plan is showing that. We recommend sidewalks be installed on at least one side of each street, internal street. [0:36:41, 0:36:43]: And as I said, uh waters is [0:36:44, 0:36:47]: sufficient of the site, but the sewer line needs to be extended. [0:36:48, 0:37:08]: Uh staff recommendations. I'm not gonna read all this, but it's here if you want to refer to it later. I'll just briefly mention a few things. We're recommending approval of request R3 zoning based on the following conditions. The site plan that the last latest site plan that was submitted, we're calling it a site plan number four that I showed showed before. [0:37:08, 0:37:08]: Four. [0:37:09, 0:37:12]: Um have some conditions here regarding the subdivision design. [0:37:13, 0:37:16]: The landscape design, these are all things that I already mentioned. [0:37:17, 0:37:18]: And um [0:37:18, 0:37:23]: Architectural design. I'll just stress that all homes should have a two-car garage at a minimum. [0:37:24, 0:37:28]: They should have be at least 2,000 square feet, have brick on all four sides. [0:37:29, 0:37:34]: and and have Xteries which further comply with the architectural standards in the zoning code. [0:37:35, 0:37:40]: And uh finally the res guarding procedural manners manners, the applicant will [0:37:41, 0:37:45]: Need to submit a subdivision application after this if this rezoning is approved. [0:37:46, 0:37:51]: And um then it will have plat will have to be recorded with the with the um county. [0:37:51, 0:37:58]: before any land disturbance or building permits may be issued. And there is a 18 period 18 month time limit. [0:37:59, 0:38:02]: uh uh for this project to um [0:38:02, 0:38:08]: uh to be built uh in order to retain this zoning classification if if the council chooses. [0:38:09, 0:38:10]: Are there any questions? [0:38:15, 0:38:21]: Thank you, Linda, for the presentation. Councilman, any questions? Yeah, Councilman Barber, you have a question for her. [0:38:21, 0:38:22]: Yes. [0:38:22, 0:38:23]: [2304.8, 2318.6]: A quick question. All the points you mentioned was the suggestion for sidewalks installed only on one side of the street. Is that based on the city's current um standards? [0:38:40, 0:38:46]: Well, we're saying that that's the minimum. I mean, we'd like to see it on both sides. Right. [0:38:46, 0:38:47]: Okay. [0:38:47, 0:38:48]: So [0:38:49, 0:38:53]: Do you know if this proposal will include sidewalks on both sides? [0:38:56, 0:39:00]: Uh, maybe the applicant would like to address that. I'm not [0:39:01, 0:39:03]: Is the applicant on? Of course. [0:39:06, 0:39:26]: Yes, this is a Michelle Battle with Battle Law, one West Court Square, Decatur, Georgia, 30030. Currently the site plan does show um sidewalks on only one side of the street because it was our understanding that that was what the requirement was. Um to the extent that um the city council would require. [0:39:25, 0:39:37]: uh sidewalks on both sides of the street. I'm sure that we will have to absorb that request, but um we had laid this out sidewalks only on one side based on the um current requirements of the city. [0:39:39, 0:39:44]: I certainly would would like to see sidewalks on both sides of the streets. That's just my opinion. [0:39:45, 0:39:46]: Yes, ma'am. [0:39:46, 0:39:47]: That's all I had. [0:39:48, 0:39:53]: Sure. And Michelle, also if you'd like to point out the sidewalks that we agreed to along the frontage. [0:39:54, 0:40:05]: Yes, we will also have um sidewalks along Brandon Road, um where we will be installing sidewalks um at the the width required by the city. [0:40:05, 0:40:08]: And the width is what what is what width do you rec recall that being? [0:40:09, 0:40:17]: Um I know that we had proposed and had been discussed to have a ten foot, I think it was a um to eight to ten foot width. [0:40:17, 0:40:21]: um sidewalks it would be more of a uh uh multi trail. [0:40:21, 0:40:22]: Yes, yeah. [0:40:23, 0:40:26]: And that's only along the Brandon Road as you're referring to? [0:40:26, 0:40:29]: Yes. And then we would have the internal sidewalk as well. [0:40:30, 0:40:32]: And internal sidewalks will be how wide? [0:40:33, 0:40:34]: Um [0:40:35, 0:40:39]: I think we have our whatever I believe they're fo I believe they're four feet wide. [0:40:41, 0:40:41]: C [0:40:43, 0:40:46]: Ms. Barber, you were done with your questions, Ms. Barber, at this point? [0:40:46, 0:40:58]: Actually I have um several questions to ask. Um but keeping with the sidewalks, um not really um supporting of the four feet sidewalk, if we can [0:40:58, 0:41:01]: Increase that that would be great. And to install [0:41:01, 0:41:05]: Two sidewalks per street on both sides. [0:41:05, 0:41:05]: Um [0:41:06, 0:41:11]: One other question I have and I don't know if the applicant was gonna do a presentation or not. [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: They should. [0:41:15, 0:41:15]: Yes. [0:41:15, 0:41:18]: Okay, well I'll hold questions until after. [0:41:19, 0:41:28]: Mayor Pro Tem uh Alexandra, go ahead, please. Yeah, this time should be reserved uh for staff questioning. I hope the applicant will begin and the uh those opposed. [0:41:29, 0:41:31]: will be given time to actually [0:41:31, 0:41:43]: I'll I'll I'll open up I'll open up the public meeting and and a uh public hearing in in a bit. They'll get the opportunity to speak. But go ahead with you. So what we need to do in this, uh Ms. Barber, is that we need to add that condition. [0:41:44, 0:41:47]: That uh both sides of the street have sidewalks, so certainly [0:41:47, 0:41:57]: uh I would support that. So that need to be an additional additional condition uh that we would add uh to this development to make sure that there are sidewalks [0:41:57, 0:42:01]: uh on both sides of the street. That is uh what the recommendation is. [0:42:01, 0:42:03]: And uh Miss Logan, a couple of questions. [0:42:03, 0:42:10]: Uh, so the public understands it is mandated now that they have a mail kiosk right by the post office. [0:42:13, 0:42:22]: And not check into those requirements. They've just shown a a kiosk uh male kiosk there. Of course they'd have to meet the city sign regulations. [0:42:23, 0:42:30]: Right. I thought there was a federal regulation that that the post office now was not issuing individual mailboxes any longer. [0:42:30, 0:42:33]: That they were issuing kiosks. That's a mandate, I believe. [0:42:34, 0:42:36]: I don't know. That's true. That that is true. [0:42:38, 0:42:48]: Okay. Uh so so that is not a decision that uh anybody would make'cause certainly I would make that a condition if they could get individual mailboxes, I certainly would request that. [0:42:48, 0:42:54]: But uh through the code now, the post office now is mandating that to make it easier on the mail delivery. [0:42:54, 0:42:58]: Uh whether w if you don't like that, we probably need to take that up with uh [0:42:59, 0:43:12]: with uh your congressman is or someone uh in Washington to see if we can get that change back because I know some of the residents are gonna be disappointed by that, but that is uh what the ruling is uh at this particular time. [0:43:13, 0:43:15]: Uh in terms of um [0:43:15, 0:43:23]: The total overall the staff is recommending approval of this at this point. And how did it was initial was the initial recommendation approval? [0:43:25, 0:43:38]: Um in the beginning we um suggested maybe R2 because of a smaller because it would um require larger LUTs, but the applicant has changed the site plan to [0:43:38, 0:43:50]: to uh make the those 11 lots along Brandon Road larger in order to make them compatible with the Clark Meadows subdivision across the street and also some other larger other lots. [0:43:50, 0:43:53]: on the property to be larger as well. So [0:43:53, 0:43:55]: So therefore we [0:43:55, 0:43:57]: feel more comfortable with that. [0:43:58, 0:44:07]: Okay. Even though the even though they're requesting R three to allow some lots to have the minimum twelve thousand, that there are at least half the lots would be larger than that. [0:44:08, 0:44:09]: Okay. [0:44:09, 0:44:15]: Now I did notice that, you know, in the R two we were I would think that we would want to have a requirement in there. [0:44:15, 0:44:18]: On the actual lot size in terms of uh [0:44:19, 0:44:20]: The larger home size. [0:44:20, 0:44:23]: I know what the uh Arthur will pr will permit. [0:44:24, 0:44:26]: But I think we probably need to go to [0:44:26, 0:44:30]: uh a home size maybe uh about twenty five hundred square feet [0:44:30, 0:44:32]: So I m there may be a condition. [0:44:33, 0:44:36]: that would uh come up. Uh that would that we would have to add that as a condition. [0:44:38, 0:44:39]: Um [0:44:40, 0:44:56]: Let me see as far as the sizes of the houses. So here it says all homes shall have a minimum of 2,000 square feet. Remember that that the requirements are only 1,050 square feet, but we're saying they should have be at least 2,000 square feet. [0:44:57, 0:45:01]: Right. I just think we need to make that a little larger to maybe twenty five hundred. [0:45:01, 0:45:02]: So that um [0:45:02, 0:45:05]: You know, the homes are equivalent. I've heard a lot of that from [0:45:05, 0:45:08]: Uh, the surrounding community and we want to be very sensitive. [0:45:09, 0:45:13]: You know, we've been listening to a lot of what's been coming back from the community. [0:45:13, 0:45:17]: And uh, you know, uh this builder has been willing to [0:45:17, 0:45:19]: uh make some adjustment so [0:45:19, 0:45:23]: I think we just need to bump that number up a little bit more uh to be inclusive, but [0:45:24, 0:45:26]: Uh w that would be another condition that uh [0:45:27, 0:45:28]: We may have to add so. [0:45:28, 0:45:31]: Uh that may be a part of what's coming up, so we'll see. [0:45:34, 0:45:38]: Councillor, you you any more uh Mareportem? No, no. [0:45:46, 0:45:48]: Yeah, muteful mu [0:45:50, 0:45:56]: I'll tell you what, okay, thank you. The snake would probably bit me, right? Anyway, thank you very much for that. Uh Councilwoman Gantt [0:45:56, 0:45:59]: Uh go ahead, please. Thank you. Um [0:45:59, 0:46:02]: You mentioned that prior you recommended R2. [0:46:05, 0:46:11]: Um yes because Councilwoman Councilwoman Gantt, you're muted now. Thank you, sorry. You mentioned um [0:46:12, 0:46:16]: that initially the city recommended R two. [0:46:17, 0:46:21]: Can't you let the citizens and l the difference between R two and R three? [0:46:21, 0:46:37]: So R2 requires thirty thousand square foot lots, much larger. And it was our understanding that there was no way developer could meet that. So I guess as a compromise, like I said a few minutes ago, they agreed to to [0:46:37, 0:46:38]: Um [0:46:38, 0:46:48]: have stay with the R three but have lot quite a few lots be larger than the minimum of twelve thousand. So we felt more comfortable that there would be [0:46:49, 0:46:54]: um larger lots than not not just twelve thousand all the way around, but other larger lots. [0:46:55, 0:46:58]: And why couldn't the R three, R two be met? [0:46:59, 0:47:08]: Um, I I get the applicant would I need to answer that. They g as I said it's thirty thousand square foot lots, much larger. My understanding that would not have been financially feasible. [0:47:09, 0:47:29]: Um actually the reason um council member for the um smaller lot size is that the 30,000 square foot lot um was designed for lots that were on septic. Um we are not on septic, that is one of the conditions, um, and therefore the larger lot size was not um needed. Um we asked [0:47:29, 0:47:42]: for the R3 because we are actually bringing sewer into this community. So it's only the communities that did not have sewer that required that 30,000 square foot lot. [0:47:43, 0:47:46]: Oh thank you, um attorney battle. [0:47:46, 0:47:47]: Ms. Logan [0:47:48, 0:47:53]: What are the what are the carp meadows across the street? What is it zoned for? [0:47:54, 0:47:54]: Yeah. [0:47:54, 0:48:13]: So it has um a combination uh it was PD zone PD plan development. That's a um category that city doesn't use anymore. It was uh it was deleted for some reason, but but under the umbrella of PD, uh Clark Meadows had two um [0:48:14, 0:48:19]: zoning classifications had R2 and R three and um so [0:48:20, 0:48:24]: Um larger lots in the R two, smaller in R three. So it has both of them. [0:48:25, 0:48:25]: Okay. [0:48:27, 0:48:27]: And [0:48:30, 0:48:38]: You mentioned that the Planning Commission postponed this several times. Can you give me your let me know why this was postponed several times? [0:48:39, 0:48:44]: Originally it went to the planning commission uh in November and [0:48:45, 0:48:48]: I think the planning commission needed more more information. [0:48:49, 0:48:51]: Um it w we then presented it. [0:48:51, 0:48:53]: In December. [0:48:53, 0:48:55]: Um but then in December. [0:48:56, 0:48:56]: Um [0:48:57, 0:48:59]: They decided that um [0:49:00, 0:49:12]: The applicant decided to do two things. Number one, get a traffic study prepared, uh, which they did. And secondly, to hold two uh private uh community meetings with the citizens, which they did. [0:49:13, 0:49:18]: Does that traffic study reflect um weekend traffic? [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: I don't believe so. Uh maybe the um [0:49:23, 0:49:25]: Traffic engineer can go into more detail about that. [0:49:26, 0:49:30]: Doesn't matter. I think traffic is more heavier during the week than it is on the weekend probably, but [0:49:31, 0:49:34]: I think it's a that's just me. Um [0:49:35, 0:49:36]: And [0:49:38, 0:49:42]: You said there are eleven lights fronting Brennan Road. [0:49:42, 0:49:44]: That will have the fifteen thousand square feet. [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: Um [0:49:47, 0:49:51]: What other lots will have 15,000 square feet? [0:49:52, 0:49:53]: If any. [0:49:54, 0:50:02]: Wow, some of these lots in the back, you can see by looking at them the some of the larger lots here in the cul-de-sac at the back. [0:50:02, 0:50:04]: And some of these in here. [0:50:05, 0:50:07]: Um do we have a number? [0:50:08, 0:50:10]: A number, let's see. This [0:50:12, 0:50:13]: Um [0:50:16, 0:50:20]: So the our average lot size would be fourteen thousand eighty six. [0:50:21, 0:50:22]: Um [0:50:23, 0:50:26]: Let me see if I had those numbers in here. [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: Don't have a number. [0:50:34, 0:50:37]: But it was there was about half. I remember I remember counting. [0:50:38, 0:50:43]: I remember counting on the site plan and there was about half of them were bigger than twelve thousand. [0:50:44, 0:50:44]: Okay. [0:50:45, 0:50:51]: I don't have any further questions for right now, but I'm sure I'll have more on once the presentation's complete. [0:50:51, 0:50:55]: I'd like to see example of the homes and everything. Exactly. [0:50:56, 0:51:01]: Um just I want to ask uh Councilman Thomas, do you have any comments for uh Linda at all, sir? [0:51:03, 0:51:08]: No, I I have some notes. See, I do have some questions for the um developer. [0:51:09, 0:51:13]: Okay. How about you, Councilman Blount? Any questions you have for Linda at all? [0:51:14, 0:51:25]: Well, Mayor, not at this time. I'm still looking over information and still gathering uh thoughts on different things uh pertaining to the uh this development. So not none of them yet, but some will be coming. [0:51:26, 0:51:38]: All right. So on that note, if there are no more questions in reference to what we see thus far from Linda, uh the quest is for the developer to uh do the developer you have a presentation or some comments that you'd like to make at this time? [0:51:41, 0:52:01]: Yes, um again, my name is Michelle Battle with Battle Law. I do have representatives from um uh Liberty Communities here um with me this evening, um, along with our uh Mark Akapura to and Steve Moore um with Moore Bass to be able to uh answer questions um that may be presented. [0:52:00, 0:52:20]: First, we are extremely excited about this particular project. We have had the opportunity to have multiple meetings with the community to go over the project. As indicated, we are looking at a total of 139 lots. We started this. [0:52:20, 0:52:40]: project out with 147 lots. Since that time and meeting with the community, we were able to address a number of issues. First and foremost, we were able to reduce the number of units to 139. We were able to increase the amount of amenity space [0:52:40, 0:53:00]: Space and the types of amenities, including adding a swimming pool and a community space within the building. We actually are now doing the community space versus the meeting space versus the pavilion. We added in the outdoor playground area. [0:53:00, 0:53:20]: Area as well. It sounds uh as if we're going to be adding sidewalks now on both sides of the street. Um, additionally, we had um extensive landscaping that we were planning along uh the perimeter of the project. As you can see here, um we were uh looking to have uh perimeter uh [0:53:20, 0:53:40]: landscaping along with the uh streetscaping and the uh sidewalk that will be located along Brandon Road. Um additionally, um we also looked at the house style and the house uh type. And after um much discussion, um we agreed to do [0:53:40, 0:54:00]: Four-sided brick homes. These are the elevations that we presented of the types of homes that would be built. These are just two of the design types, but these would be four-sided brick homes. What we wanted to do was to really address many of the questions and concerns that had been. [0:54:00, 0:54:20]: raised by the community, particularly those within the Clark Meadows community. We believe that our project is most closely aligned with Clark Meadows. When you look at the product within the boundaries of the city of Stockbridge, you will see that we are adjacent or across from [0:54:20, 0:54:40]: Clark Meadows, which is an R2, R3 development that was developed at that time under planned development. Even the recorded plat references the number of R2 lots at 15 and the balance of the 142 lots are zoned at R3, or in accordance with [0:54:40, 0:55:00]: With R3 criteria. It's also interesting to note that the developer at that time was able to get variants to allow for smaller unit sizes and for smaller setbacks between the lots. And so in the Clark Meadows community, you actually see lots that are below. [0:55:00, 0:55:20]: The current R three requirements at 7, uh 500 square feet in terms of their um R three lots. Um so their R three lots are actually smaller than ours. Over 50% of our lots are 15,000 square feet or larger. Um and that is evidenced on the [0:55:20, 0:55:24]: um site plan information um sheet here. [0:55:25, 0:55:45]: Um you can see the number of lots that we have here that are 15,000 square feet or larger. And we have lots that are as large as uh 21,000 square feet. Um we've got a number of lots that are at 20,000 square feet, 18, 19,000. [0:55:45, 0:56:05]: We even have a lot, lot 120 at 22,000 square feet and lot 102 at 24,000 square feet. So we have a range of lots that are being provided on this site. When we really look at the subdivision, it fits squarely within the development pattern. [0:56:05, 0:56:25]: And the land use requirements in the city of Stockbridge. We are at 1.89 units per acre, whereas Clark Meadows is actually at a density of 2.74 units per acre. The Moss Point community is at 1.99 units per acre. [0:56:25, 0:56:45]: Per acre. So we are right in that sweet spot here where we are providing lots that are actually larger in size than Clark Meadows, slightly smaller than the lots in Moss Point. But from a density perspective, well in line with what is already developed and in fact less than the line. [0:56:45, 0:57:05]: Less density than both Clark Meadows and Moss Point. With regards to many of the comments that we have received from the community for those who are in an opposition, we took a couple of things that we did. One, there had been complaints about our access onto North Salem Road. We were moved [0:57:05, 0:57:06]: that access point. [0:57:07, 0:57:27]: Um there have been uh questions about um the lot sizes. Again, we uh removed some lots, we uh moved some things around and we were able to increase the lot sizes um to again more than 50 uh percent of the lots are in excess of fifteen thousand square feet, and our average lot size is [0:57:27, 0:57:47]: Over 14,000 square feet. We added the left turn lane into the property as well as a deceleration lane in when we obtained the traffic study. There's much to be said about the traffic study, and we do have our engineer here to respond to any questions, but we believe that the [0:57:47, 0:58:07]: Traffic study is accurate. Um, and he can um go into more detail with regards to that to the extent that you all have questions. Um, but the truth of the matter is um there's no question that um as the city grows, uh traffic will continue to increase. We had conversations um with the Department of [0:58:07, 0:58:27]: Department, Henry County Department of Transportation. And certainly I believe that if the city in conjunction with the county look to make road improvements along both Brandon Road and the County fully responsible for all improvements to North Salem Drive, that things could get [0:58:27, 0:58:47]: better um in the area as the area continues to grow and expand. But that is a decision that Henry County transportation has to make. And zonings by the Georgia Supreme Court cannot be denied solely based on traffic related issues. But we have done everything that we can [0:58:46, 0:58:54]: to make sure that we are handling properly the traffic that is coming in and out of this community. [0:58:54, 0:59:14]: Um, we also by changing the house style, um, we were able to increase the price point um for this community. And that was extremely important to the community as well, that they wanted price points that were higher. Um, we initially were in the high 200s because of the change to the [0:59:14, 0:59:34]: Four-sided brick home. We are now squarely in that mid 300, 330 to 350 as the opening uh list price on these homes. Um, there was discussion about the unit size. Um, we are at um an asked for a minimum of 2,000 square feet. Um, we believe that. [0:59:34, 0:59:54]: That our average unit size will be somewhere around 2,400 square feet. And so as we are talking about unit size, what we wanted was to make sure that some of the individuals who may buy in this community may want a slightly smaller home with more upgrades on their interiors. [0:59:54, 1:00:14]: And we want to be able to provide that, while others may simply want a larger home. And to the extent that they want homes even larger than 2,500 square feet, we are more than happy to accommodate them based on the lot that they obtain. And so we would ask not to put a minimum of 2,500. [1:00:14, 1:00:34]: 500, but maybe an average so that we do have the opportunity to offer that smaller home size to residents with a minimum of 2,000 or even 2,200 square feet would be acceptable to make sure that we allow those residents who want to have that diversity. [1:00:34, 1:00:54]: um to be able to do that. With that being said, we would respectfully request uh approval of this application. Again, we believe that we are squarely in line with what has already been provided for and approved within uh the city limits of Stockbridge. We are definitely in line [1:00:54, 1:01:14]: with the land use. And we believe that the product that we are bringing is aligned with the vision of the city of Stockbridge. And we are here to answer any questions. We've tried to be as flexible as possible while prioritizing making certain that we have a product that will meet market [1:01:14, 1:01:34]: Market demands and that will not end up simply being a pipe farm at the end of the day. We do have individuals here in support of this application. We would ask that you would allow them to speak at the appropriate time. And some of them actually have the name Josh Mahoney and uh on here a couple of times. Those are the individuals who are not going to be able to do that. [1:01:34, 1:01:54]: Individuals who we asked to sign up to speak in support of the project. You have received some letters and emails, including from the Clark Meadows community. You all received an email from them today, I believe, indicating their support from the board for their support of the project, as well. [1:01:54, 1:02:11]: as some individuals who also sent in um uh um notices of support. Um and we can read those if you would prefer. Um but with that um we was again respectfully request uh uh approval of the application and we're here to answer any further questions that you may have. [1:02:12, 1:02:32]: Thank you, Ms. Battle, for your presentation. I'll tell you what, I have something I'd like to ask you. I mean, already you've there have been several different uh additional conditions that have been asked to uh of you all and done this aspect, but uh want to know that maybe this is for something for the staff to know, and I probably should know the answer to this. So if those for those conditions [1:02:32, 1:02:43]: to be solidified in the present uh in in the contract or or in the in the guidelines. I would imagine there's a process we need to go to add them and make sure that what we're asking for is acceptable. [1:02:43, 1:03:03]: uh by the builder and it's it's locked the stock and s in some written document because right now what we mentioned thus far from additional conditions has only been of speak. Those conditions um from our our perspective um if the staff conditions are approved then those would be added as additional conditions. [1:03:03, 1:03:23]: onto the staff conditions to be written into the record. And with regards to the sidewalks, I believe that, you know, that if that's a requirement, that's the requirement. We would ask with regards to the home size that we could have an average as opposed to the minimum that was proposed. [1:03:23, 1:03:25]: Um [1:03:25, 1:03:30]: Councilmember Alexander, but I know that there is still additional discussion to be had. [1:03:31, 1:03:51]: All right. And then another question I'd like to ask you right now deals with the transportation or traffic study. I'm sorry, traffic study. And what I believe I understood previously from the Planning Zoning meeting that the traffic study primarily was was done during the course of the week of a couple hours, maybe in the morning and afternoon. No Fridays, no Saturdays. [1:03:51, 1:04:05]: no weekend type of uh uh analysis per se. And of course we are in the middle of a pandemic. So um so I would just like uh the individual if you can uh maybe respond to that or or to give some clarification on how that came about. [1:04:05, 1:04:25]: Absolutely. And I'm uh Mark Akampora is on the line with us. I can say as he's coming on that um typically a traffic study is done um looking at um traffic counts during um peak hours uh during the weekday, because that is typically when you have the most uh traffic. [1:04:25, 1:04:43]: And so during those peak hours is where we did our review. But I know that Mark is prepared to respond to the questions that were raised about that. And I believe has done some additional work. So, Mark, if you could come on to answer those questions, I'd appreciate it. [1:04:47, 1:04:47]: Welcome, Mark. [1:04:48, 1:04:50]: Hi, is my voice being heard? [1:04:50, 1:04:51]: You are now, sir. [1:04:52, 1:05:00]: Great, thank you very much. Um, my name is Mark Akampora. I live at eight fifty eight Myrtle Street in Atlanta, Georgia. [1:05:00, 1:05:03]: I've been practicing traffic engineering in Georgia. [1:05:03, 1:05:05]: For thirty years. [1:05:05, 1:05:12]: Um, and I am a registered professional engineer in the state of Georgia. My expertise is in traffic studies like the one I did for this project. [1:05:13, 1:05:17]: Um to address the question about the time periods analyzed. [1:05:18, 1:05:22]: The tripical traffic study for a residential project looks at [1:05:22, 1:05:30]: the weekday morning and evening peaks. So the traffic counts that we did, we actually do traffic counts out in the field at the intersections. [1:05:30, 1:05:33]: In the morning from seven o'clock to nine o'clock in the morning. [1:05:33, 1:05:47]: And from four o'clock to six o'clock in the evening. Those are typically the peak times. If we were doing a different land use, like a say a shopping center, we would typically do a Saturday afternoon. If we were doing a church, we might do a Sunday morning. [1:05:47, 1:05:48]: Um [1:05:48, 1:06:06]: We count, we do those two hour counts and then from those two hour counts, we come we break them down into fifteen minute intervals and we compile the four highest fifteen minute intervals. So the p morning peak time might be from seven fifteen to eight fifteen or the afternoon might be from four thirty to five thirty. [1:06:07, 1:06:10]: So those typically represent the highest one hour time period. [1:06:11, 1:06:16]: um in both the morning and evening and those are typically the highest time periods during the day. [1:06:16, 1:06:19]: I will add this in the in the planning commission [1:06:19, 1:06:23]: Hearing several of the neighbors asked about the time periods. [1:06:23, 1:06:30]: And they questioned about the school and they questioned about Friday evening being a high time peak time. [1:06:30, 1:06:33]: So last week, well first I want to add um [1:06:34, 1:06:54]: For my actual traffic study, I did obtain historic Georgia DOT counts on Brandon Road and I adjusted the traffic count stuff that I did for this study to those counts with the anticipated growth that would have occurred without the pandemic. So basically the counts that were done in my study were increased by [1:06:54, 1:06:57]: twenty five percent to account for the pandemic. [1:06:58, 1:06:59]: Um additionally, last week. [1:07:00, 1:07:05]: I I had made site visits during the course of the original study, but last week I also went out [1:07:06, 1:07:06]: Um [1:07:07, 1:07:10]: in the morning period last Wednesday from [1:07:10, 1:07:18]: Uh seven thirty about s seven o'clock to eight o'clock, which included the seven forty five beginning. [1:07:18, 1:07:20]: of the Hickory Flat elementary school. [1:07:20, 1:07:21]: Time period. [1:07:21, 1:07:32]: I observed the entirety of Brandon Road from highway forty two at the signal at the north end of Brandon Road all the way through past the site, pat past North Salem Drive. [1:07:32, 1:07:38]: Um down through the signal at campground and down to the unsignalized intersection at the south and then [1:07:39, 1:07:43]: Brandon Road at Highway forty two. Those were raised by the [1:07:43, 1:07:44]: by the neighborhood as well. [1:07:45, 1:07:45]: Um [1:07:46, 1:07:48]: And then I also went out on Friday evening. [1:07:48, 1:08:00]: and I observed this past Friday evening from four thirty to five thirty in the evening. And the observations that I made were consistent with the observations that I had made originally in the traffic study. [1:08:00, 1:08:00]: And [1:08:01, 1:08:15]: I can I'd I'd be happy to answer any details about what I observed and my analysis and what I did. I don't want to necessarily go through the entire report unless somebody specifically wants me to go through as mu I'll go through as much detail as you'd like me to. [1:08:16, 1:08:25]: Well since I asked the question, I just maybe I might have missed it. So you didn't do any a thorough analysis on the weekend. It's not necessarily needed. Is that what is that what I'm I'm hearing here? Or did I miss something? [1:08:26, 1:08:46]: That's correct. The the peak time periods are the weekday morning from seven o'clock to nine o'clock. So we analyzed that highest one hour and four o'clock to six o'clock in the evening. Basically the normal rush hour. And I did make an observation also on this Friday evening, during the Friday evening rush hour. But that's correct. I did not do any analysis. [1:08:46, 1:08:48]: [4129.7, 4130.3]: Okay. [1:08:51, 1:09:00]: All right, thank you. Uh Council, questions for uh Mark or e or general questions for the project itself that Ms. Battle had briefed. [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: Um, Mary Potem, your Hannah C first. Go ahead. [1:09:04, 1:09:10]: Yes, sir. Uh uh, you know, everybody's uh looking at the studies. Looks like you've done a lot of them. [1:09:10, 1:09:15]: Are there any other studies that exist? Did anybody else do a study besides you all? [1:09:15, 1:09:19]: Well, you know, they might say, Well, this is an independent arbiter. Who else did the study? [1:09:21, 1:09:26]: As far as a traffic study? In in the last in the last several years, who else has done a study? [1:09:28, 1:09:33]: I don't know who else has done a traffic impact study on Brandon Road. [1:09:33, 1:09:38]: I do a lot of traffic studies throughout Henry County. I do about a dozen of them a year. [1:09:39, 1:09:42]: Mm-hmm. Um, but on Brandon Road, I don't know if anybody else has. [1:09:42, 1:09:47]: I would think that it's possible that the other subdivisions that have been built out there [1:09:47, 1:09:49]: may have been required to do [1:09:49, 1:09:53]: study is when they would develop, but I don't know that for certain. [1:09:53, 1:09:59]: Council member, are you referring to the um traffic count information with GDOT? [1:09:59, 1:10:02]: Z D Out of Henry County, anybody else do a survey out there? [1:10:03, 1:10:17]: Yeah, there there is a permanent Georgia DOT count station on Brandon Road. Um, I believe it's south of Radcliffe, so it's just a bit north of the elementary school. It's a permanent count station. [1:10:17, 1:10:30]: And I actually obtained that data and I use that in my study to uh chart historic growth trends and also to calibrate my data to the pre-pandemic data. I basically looked at [1:10:31, 1:10:40]: their data, the Georgia ZoT data, compared to my data and extrapolated their data to twenty twenty one and adjusted my numbers. So the numbers [1:10:40, 1:10:42]: That my study is based on are [1:10:42, 1:10:48]: actual counts then adjusted to what would be expected if the pandemic had not hit. [1:10:48, 1:10:51]: Okay, so what did the G Dot study show? [1:10:53, 1:10:54]: Okay. [1:10:54, 1:10:55]: Um [1:11:00, 1:11:02]: I have I'm pulling up the information right now. [1:11:03, 1:11:03]: The [1:11:04, 1:11:07]: The count the Georgia DOT count. [1:11:07, 1:11:09]: At their count station. [1:11:10, 1:11:16]: Um in twenty nineteen that was the last year that their data was for was three thousand six hundred vehicle. [1:11:17, 1:11:28]: And the the counts for my study was two thousand six hundred and seventy vehicles. That's a tube count that's put across Brandon Road. And so I adjusted my [1:11:28, 1:11:33]: counts upward, including the turning movement counts. I also did AM and PM turning movement counts. [1:11:34, 1:11:37]: At those intersections at North Salem Drive. [1:11:37, 1:11:38]: And at um [1:11:39, 1:11:40]: Sprayberry lane. [1:11:40, 1:11:45]: And I adjusted those counts upward to to match the Georgia DOT count. [1:11:46, 1:11:48]: Okay, now with the Georgia DOT counts. [1:11:48, 1:11:54]: What is the capacity of the road? Is it is does does it make it high, medium, low? What what does it show? [1:11:56, 1:12:00]: Um that's a it's a tough question to answer what the capacity is. [1:12:01, 1:12:02]: capacity [1:12:02, 1:12:12]: Typically on an unconstrained section of roadway, a l in other words, a lane with no control, is about eighteen hundred vehicles per hour. [1:12:12, 1:12:13]: Um [1:12:13, 1:12:22]: But intersections, once you put a traffic signal or a stop sign, that then limits the capacity of the intersection. So it just depends on the location. [1:12:22, 1:12:23]: Um [1:12:23, 1:12:33]: For example, there's a lot higher capacity at the northern intersection at Brandon Road at Highway forty two because there's a signal there. But it's hard for me to just give you a [1:12:34, 1:12:35]: Lane capacity. [1:12:36, 1:12:38]: Well, I would I would say just as a [1:12:38, 1:12:55]: as a subjective number. Thirty six hundred is is very low and twenty six to seventy is very low. Um there are other two lane roads in Henry County that have volumes that are triple that, that are in the that are over ten, ten, twelve thousand vehicles per day. [1:12:56, 1:12:58]: Okay, so what you're stating is thirty six hundred [1:12:59, 1:13:03]: That's of what I'm trying to get at. I I don't know, I'm not an expert. So thirty six hundred [1:13:04, 1:13:05]: Is considered low. [1:13:06, 1:13:11]: Uh uh for a two lane road that would be I would say I would use the word low to moderate. [1:13:11, 1:13:13]: There's a lot of extra capacity out there. [1:13:14, 1:13:15]: Okay. [1:13:15, 1:13:18]: Okay, that that's what I'm getting at. Where where are we currently? [1:13:18, 1:13:22]: So currently your estimation is that it's low to moderate. [1:13:23, 1:13:25]: Yes, and and remember that the [1:13:26, 1:13:29]: The the analysis is based on the highest hours of that. [1:13:30, 1:13:34]: So through most of the rest of the day you have you have a twenty four hour count. [1:13:34, 1:13:35]: And then you have PCAL accounts. [1:13:36, 1:13:40]: So my analysis is actually at the two highest of those twenty four hours. [1:13:40, 1:13:53]: So that you take the thirty six hundred cars and you spread them evenly throughout the day, it's actually that's not really what occurs. It's actually peaking in the morning and evening, and that's the time period that I actually did the analysis. [1:13:53, 1:13:54]: So if you go out there [1:13:54, 1:13:56]: say ten o'clock in the morning. [1:13:56, 1:14:11]: there's not that much traffic out there and the road's kind of empty. But if you go out there at five thirty in the evening or when or when the kids are being dropped off to school in the morning at seven forty five, you're gonna get higher peaks then. And so my operational analysis [1:14:11, 1:14:17]: which is also detailed in my report is actually based on those two highest hours of the day. [1:14:18, 1:14:25]: Okay, so okay. So let me clarify what um like again, I'm a layman and I'm sure maybe the rest of the counselors, I don't know. [1:14:26, 1:14:29]: But in terms of what you're saying, so I understand it. [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: Is that [1:14:30, 1:14:30]: Yeah. [1:14:31, 1:14:32]: ворс [1:14:32, 1:14:36]: during the rush hour in the morning and at the evening. [1:14:37, 1:14:40]: The traffic is low to moderate. That's what you is that what you're saying? [1:14:41, 1:14:41]: Yeah. [1:14:42, 1:14:45]: And in fact, in my traffic study, I have [1:14:45, 1:14:48]: tables that show the existing traffic operations. [1:14:48, 1:14:52]: And we assign the operations levels of service, which are [1:14:52, 1:14:56]: comparable to letter grades in school. They go through from A through F. [1:14:56, 1:14:59]: And they're basically exactly what you would think. [1:14:59, 1:15:10]: of a letter graded school. So level of service A means it's excellent and everything works really well. F means it's failing and you gotta do something. You gotta widen the road or put a signal or something like that. [1:15:10, 1:15:12]: So for the existing analysis [1:15:13, 1:15:17]: At the intersections of Brandon Road at Sprayberry Lane and at North Salem Drive. [1:15:17, 1:15:30]: All of the movements, all of the control movements and the overall intersection were all level of service A in the morning peak and that highest hour in the morning and they range between A and B in the PM peak. [1:15:31, 1:15:36]: So that would be considered excellent operations and no mitigation recommended. [1:15:36, 1:15:43]: And then in the future, when we add the pri add the growth factor to account for other growth and development, and then we add the traffic. [1:15:44, 1:15:47]: The project's traffic from this proposed development. [1:15:47, 1:15:49]: And I re ran that analysis. [1:15:49, 1:16:09]: And the operations are still five years into the future, level uh was it five? I think it was five years into the future, still level of service, all levels of service A in the morning and levels of service A and B in the evening. And that's that those are the morning and evening peak hours that I described a few minutes ago. So at the worst times of day, at those [1:16:09, 1:16:10]: [4570.7, 4572.2]: It's all A's and B. [1:16:12, 1:16:14]: No C's, no D's, no E's. [1:16:14, 1:16:15]: No lap. [1:16:16, 1:16:18]: Well, okay, thank you. [1:16:18, 1:16:20]: Councilman Thomas, do you have some questions, sir? [1:16:21, 1:16:24]: Yes. Um I have two questions. [1:16:25, 1:16:31]: Uh my first question considering um sidewalks on both sides of the street. [1:16:32, 1:16:36]: How would that affect uh lot size? Number one. [1:16:36, 1:16:45]: Uh I'm I'm gonna ask go ahead and ask both of my questions. Uh my second question. Presently we we have problems and issues with parking in the streets. [1:16:45, 1:16:51]: What is the width size of the streets within the this proposed cell division? [1:16:52, 1:17:12]: I'm gonna ask Steve Moore um with our group to respond to that um question. I believe that the streets would uh the sidewalks would still be within uh the right of way um that we had already proposed. And Steve, if you can talk about the width of the right-of-way. [1:17:12, 1:17:15]: It would not affect the uh lot sizes. [1:17:15, 1:17:17]: Or even with [1:17:17, 1:17:25]: That's correct. It won't won't affect the lot size with the city uh standard sidewalks on both sides of the road. [1:17:26, 1:17:34]: And can um Steve, can you respond? And I think there was also a question about the width of the sidewalks. Of the streets. The sidewalks and and the streets. [1:17:35, 1:17:38]: So definitely we have problems in subdivision. [1:17:38, 1:17:41]: with uh parking on the street. Yes, sir. [1:17:41, 1:18:00]: Okay, um my name is Steve Moore. I'm with Moore Bass Consulting. We're civil engineers surveyors uh here in Henry County, uh 1350 Keys Ferry Court, McDonald, Georgia. Um the typical section of the roads uh would be 26 feet from the back of curb to the back of curb. So it's a two-foot curb and gutter. [1:18:01, 1:18:11]: Um so but that that's that's a a section that's been adopted by Henry County and used in the city of Stockbridge, McDonough, Locust Grove, all across the county. Um [1:18:11, 1:18:21]: So twenty-six back to back, the current uh road section also requires uh a four foot concrete sidewalk on both sides of the street within the right-of-way. [1:18:21, 1:18:41]: Um we've recently had some challenges with uh requests on zoning uh having a wider sidewalk uh than that. And we are learning very recently on some other projects that that is creating conflicts with the Henry County Water Authority and their placement of water services where the electric department [1:18:41, 1:18:54]: places their services where cable TV, uh, telecommunications, all those things. So four foot sidewalks uh in a 26-foot back of curb to back a curb section is the standard adopted section. [1:18:54, 1:18:58]: In this zoning, uh, the front setback. [1:18:59, 1:19:00]: It's fifty feet. [1:19:00, 1:19:03]: And that fifty feet is measured from the right of way line. [1:19:03, 1:19:19]: The right-of-way line is approximately 12 feet off of the back of curb. So for concerns about parking in the streets, which I completely understand and I deal with that question a lot, uh this above a majority of the other zonings that we represent. [1:19:19, 1:19:27]: provides more than enough room to park cars probably three deep in the driveway. [1:19:27, 1:19:29]: before it would even [1:19:29, 1:19:36]: uh encroach in the sidewalk, much less the street. Uh but so you have approximately sixty three feet [1:19:36, 1:19:42]: of distance from the edge of pavements or the back of the curb to the front door of the house. [1:19:43, 1:19:47]: So shouldn't have any concerns with parking in the street when you have a driveway that's that long. [1:19:50, 1:19:52]: I I yield back, Mayor. [1:19:52, 1:19:56]: Okay, thank you. Um uh councilwoman uh Gantt, please. [1:19:58, 1:20:03]: Yes. Um my question probably will be to Linda. I don't know who it's gonna be to. [1:20:04, 1:20:08]: You s mentioned that Clark Meadows has R two and R three. [1:20:09, 1:20:15]: Um a mixture. Yes. What will prevent this subdivision from having the same? [1:20:15, 1:20:28]: Well they they uh were able to do that under the PD uh zoning uh plan development and that is not uh that the PD was deleted uh with this current edition of the of the zoning uh code. [1:20:29, 1:20:49]: The the I don't I'll I'd look to respond to that, which is um we basically are um doing exactly the same thing because our lots along um and this and the lots in Clark Meadows along the frontage of Brandon Road are fifteen thousand square feet. And that's what was required uh [1:20:49, 1:21:09]: Um and the R2 lots that they have in Clark Meadows are 15,000 uh minimum square foot lots. And that's what we have are 15,000 square foot minimum lots uh along the frontage of Brandon Road. And then the balance of the lots are technically R three um along with the R three um that matches uh [1:21:09, 1:21:16]: um uh Clark Meadows, except our lots are actually larger than the Clark Meadow um R3 lots. [1:21:16, 1:21:17]: Okay. [1:21:17, 1:21:20]: Thank you. Um also [1:21:21, 1:21:22]: My [1:21:23, 1:21:24]: Other question. [1:21:26, 1:21:26]: Um [1:21:27, 1:21:30]: Gosh, and I lost it. Let me think about it real quick. [1:21:30, 1:21:34]: My other question um had very much so to do with [1:21:34, 1:21:42]: The entrance. I saw one way in and one way out. Um, I I like the look and concept of that. [1:21:42, 1:21:47]: It was there another option to have two different entrances and [1:21:47, 1:21:53]: That's one question. The second question, there was a qu request for twenty five hundred square feet. [1:21:53, 1:21:55]: Homes. Um [1:21:56, 1:22:01]: I thank you for reconsidering and having all brick homes. I I didn't [1:22:01, 1:22:04]: Sorry I haven't had the opportunity to speak in regards to that, but [1:22:04, 1:22:13]: The 2,500 square foot home request, would that even be possible? I I saw an email where it was stated that we were actually having that. [1:22:13, 1:22:25]: Okay. Um Mayor Pro Tem, I know you had mentioned that they were doing twenty five hundred square feet homes. Is it possible? And you guys said two thousand square feet homes. So is that possible at all or or [1:22:26, 1:22:28]: What's what are we gonna do with that? [1:22:28, 1:22:48]: So we had asked um uh and indicated on the lot size that the minimum lot size would be 2,000 square feet. Um we actually were willing to do a minimum of two of 2200 square feet. We had been asked by um Mayor Pro Tem uh to increase the [1:22:48, 1:23:08]: Lot size, we indicated our comfort with doing an average lot size of 2500 was what we had asked for. I mean, obviously, you all can recommend, and I'm sure that council member Alexander will recommend what he wants, but we were trying to see whether or not average [1:23:08, 1:23:28]: Average lot size of 2,500 square feet would be acceptable. Now, that doesn't mean that we wouldn't be larger than that. It just means that that would be the minimum in terms of the average lot size because it is very possible that people will come into this community and want something much larger than that, and we will be happy to accommodate them. [1:23:28, 1:23:30]: them as long as they can pay for that. [1:23:31, 1:23:33]: Uh about I'm sorry, by way of click [1:23:34, 1:23:50]: By way of clarification, I think you said lot size 25. You were talking about. I mean, sorry, I'm not the lot size, the house size. Thank you so much, Mr. Knighton. The house size minimum would be 2,500 square foot average, not the lot size. Sorry about that. [1:23:52, 1:23:57]: Thank you. Um and then you had one other question though about um [1:23:58, 1:23:59]: Uh [1:24:01, 1:24:14]: I think I answered the question. The secondary access. Yes, the secondary access. We had a secondary access onto North Salem Road, and we were asked to remove that secondary entrance. [1:24:15, 1:24:23]: And I'd like to add that we had a s um city fire marshal to look at that and he said it was fine to just have the one entrance. He was okay with that. [1:24:25, 1:24:27]: Well who who said to remove it? [1:24:28, 1:24:29]: Citizens. [1:24:31, 1:24:40]: citizens were unhappy with uh North Salem uh drive being uh very narrow and curvy and unsafe conditions, so they didn't want a secondary access there. [1:24:42, 1:24:44]: Okay. I'm getting [1:24:44, 1:24:48]: My my s I don't know if everyone can hear me, but I'm seeing nothing but [1:24:48, 1:24:50]: Screen freezes right now. [1:24:51, 1:24:52]: We can hear you. Hello. [1:24:52, 1:24:54]: We can hear you. Okay. [1:24:54, 1:24:57]: I can all see the screen freeze. So in regards [1:24:58, 1:24:59]: In regards to that [1:25:00, 1:25:07]: the the community didn't want a second entrance. They so everyone wanted one in and one out entrance. Is that correct? [1:25:08, 1:25:24]: Um, correct, because they didn't want the access point on Salem and we don't have enough frontage to have the two points um along uh Brandon Road without one of them lining up directly across from Clark Meadow. And they were vehemently opposed to that as well. [1:25:25, 1:25:26]: Okay. [1:25:27, 1:25:31]: And so it is not a line directly across from Clark Clark Meadow at this time, correct? [1:25:31, 1:25:49]: Uh no ma'am. The um entrance point is um off uh further south of um their entrance point. So their entrance point is here and our entrance point is down here now and we are north of the entrance point to Moss Point, which is down here. [1:25:49, 1:26:01]: Okay. Can you give me, and this is just a request, uh the amount of lots per size, like if there's fifteen hundred square foot lots, if there's twelve fifty of them. [1:26:02, 1:26:11]: I I just kinda wanted to know a number calculated here. I see the different lot sizes. I just well Lynn I think Linda had twelve thousand is the minimum. [1:26:12, 1:26:14]: And I so I kinda wanted to know [1:26:14, 1:26:20]: how many at least tell me how many twelve how many twelve thousand square feet homes there are. [1:26:20, 1:26:25]: I kind of wanted to see the variety of the lot sizes and I think I've got that up here. [1:26:26, 1:26:28]: Right. But I don't know. I see them. [1:26:29, 1:26:37]: But I I would like a total, like there are 20 12,000 square foot homes. I mean square foot lots. [1:26:37, 1:26:38]: There are [1:26:39, 1:26:40]: Baby [1:26:40, 1:27:00]: 15,000 square. I just want to see the actual amount told. So so we know that Linda did out of the hundred and thirty-nine lots that we have, um, Linda did a count and indicated that at least sixty-nine of those homes are fifteen thousand square. [1:27:00, 1:27:20]: square feet or larger. And she put that actually that's in her staff report between 15 and uh to 20. It's actually a little larger than 20, but 15,000 square feet and higher that 50%. So that's roughly 69, 70 lots um that are 15,000 square feet or larger. If you want to know exactly how many units are [1:27:20, 1:27:29]: are uh 12,000 square feet. Um we can make a quick uh count um while we're on the call here. [1:27:29, 1:27:31]: Okay. That's it. [1:27:31, 1:27:32]: Thank you. [1:27:32, 1:27:35]: Okay, thank you. Councilman Blount, please. Go ahead, sir. [1:27:37, 1:27:37]: Mm. [1:27:38, 1:27:45]: And whoever needs to answer this, when was what what was the actual date? I guess I missed it. What was the actual date the trappist study was done? [1:27:46, 1:27:48]: I'm just trying to gauge the impact. [1:27:48, 1:27:50]: uh of the community [1:27:51, 1:27:53]: with this development. When was the traffic study done? [1:27:54, 1:27:58]: The the date of the traffic study is January twentieth. [1:27:58, 1:27:59]: Twenty twenty one. [1:28:00, 1:28:03]: January twentieth. And the reason I ask [1:28:04, 1:28:08]: And the reason I'm asking that is that you all did no weekends. [1:28:09, 1:28:15]: Uh and and if you had done weekends, it would help us gauge whether the because if the traffic is [1:28:15, 1:28:18]: Traffic is more during the week and the time that you did it. [1:28:18, 1:28:22]: You find that that traffic study was more on the weekends. [1:28:22, 1:28:29]: Then that would account for so many people at home working, and it would account for schools and not being filled, and it would account for us being in a pandemic. [1:28:29, 1:28:32]: So then we would have to say on the weekends. [1:28:32, 1:28:40]: It should have came up lower than the number you have now, but we don't have that to even compare against when it comes to the impact in the community. [1:28:40, 1:28:41]: So [1:28:41, 1:28:50]: Doing a uh uh trapping stud on the weekend would definitely would have been help uh helpful in this case when it comes to trapping because [1:28:51, 1:28:54]: If those numbers are still lower than what you all have. [1:28:55, 1:28:57]: Then you cannot have a accurate number. [1:28:57, 1:29:17]: Because of those elements I just mentioned. So it is not and I I'll speak here as well with Mark, but it is not customary for counts to be taken on the weekend. I have as long as I've been doing zoning for twenty years and having to deal with traffic studies, I've never um had a weekend count. [1:29:17, 1:29:29]: on a residential subdivision. I know that we're in a different we're in a different world right now. Ms. Ballard, let me ask a question. Have you ever done a trapping study during the pandemic? [1:29:30, 1:29:50]: Well, I just said we're in under different you you didn't let me finish my statement. So we're we are under different circumstances right now. Um and so you know, to the extent that um Mark can respond to that, but this is the first, quite honestly, in my 20 years of being asked on a residential subdivision to do counts on a weekend. But Mark [1:29:50, 1:29:50]: Mark, go ahead. [1:29:51, 1:30:03]: Yeah, I mean I I do traffic studies for um shopping centers and and churches and we do those counts on the weekends because that's the time where they have the greatest impact. [1:30:04, 1:30:07]: Residential subdivisions tend to have the greatest impact. [1:30:07, 1:30:10]: impact during the morning and evening weekday peaks. [1:30:11, 1:30:13]: Those also tend to be [1:30:13, 1:30:16]: The t the days that have the highest traffic volumes [1:30:16, 1:30:20]: in residential areas. If you're next to a large mall or something like that. [1:30:21, 1:30:22]: That would be a different situation. [1:30:23, 1:30:24]: As far as [1:30:24, 1:30:29]: Um, studies during a pandemic. I've done a bunch of studies since the beginning of the pandemic. [1:30:29, 1:30:35]: including a lot of studies for um the Georgia Regional Transportation Authority and and [1:30:35, 1:30:41]: Greta, Georgia Regional Transportation Authority, and many of the jurisdictions, including Henry County. [1:30:41, 1:30:42]: have [1:30:42, 1:30:46]: А воркт відмітило фактор стандарт. [1:30:47, 1:30:54]: that have been accepted by Henry County and Georgia Regional Transportation Authority and Georgia Department of Transportation. [1:30:54, 1:30:55]: So [1:30:55, 1:30:58]: I would say I've done about fifty traffic studies. [1:30:58, 1:31:04]: since the beginning of the pandemic and all of them required pol procedures [1:31:04, 1:31:11]: to adjust the counts to account for the pandemic. And I did that in this traffic study. So the answer to that is yes. [1:31:12, 1:31:12]: Um [1:31:13, 1:31:15]: And I I would add this, I would be surprised [1:31:15, 1:31:18]: Even with the pandemic, if traffic volumes [1:31:18, 1:31:19]: Or [1:31:19, 1:31:26]: notably higher or different on the weekend. And my guess is they're probably lower on the weekend, even with the pandemic. [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: Um [1:31:27, 1:31:34]: If you know, that that would be just my guess, but adjustment factors were made for the pandemic to increase the counted volumes. [1:31:35, 1:31:39]: Well for me, I'm just trying to gaze specifics because [1:31:39, 1:31:43]: I mean we all can guess that they could be could be better, but we don't know. [1:31:43, 1:31:50]: We can make adjustments to it, but we just don't know. Uh, the question on the amenities, when we talk about the amenities. [1:31:50, 1:31:59]: Um, you can say pool, but what does that mean? Because I've seen one development before here uh within the last four years that said amenities. [1:32:00, 1:32:03]: And they put something there that's supposed to be in a swimming pool, but it really [1:32:03, 1:32:23]: It meant the name swimming pool, but it didn't uh it wasn't a pool. So is it something that's gonna come to the council at some point in time that that really can get let us gauge, size, positioning, uh, and just just just more about the development, uh, because it's uh this is one of the few that I've seen that's so much. [1:32:23, 1:32:27]: [5548.2, 5550.7]: that this council make is in line with [1:32:31, 1:32:35]: Uh welcoming development and also uh [1:32:35, 1:32:45]: looking at the concerns of the citizens. So that's that's why I'm asking these questions and that's what I want to see more specifics when it comes to uh those type of things. [1:32:45, 1:33:05]: So we have um provided um information concerning the pool itself. Um and I'll ask Neil or Jean to chime in with regards to this. But I believe this pool, um we've got an indication of two thousand uh square feet. Um I believe that this pool is in alignment with the same [1:33:05, 1:33:25]: type and size of pool that you see over in Clark Meadows. And additionally we have the playground area and the fire pit pit in pavilion area and bathrooms that will be on the site as well. And so [1:33:25, 1:33:45]: Um, I have seen in some instances where there's a specific reference to either the size or the type of swimming pool, but it is not intended to be like a wading pool. It is intended to be a true swimming pool, um, very similar to if I mean identical, if not the same size or larger than what's across the um in the Clark Meadow community. [1:33:46, 1:33:47]: All right, thank you. [1:33:48, 1:33:49]: I'm I'm finished, Mayor. [1:33:49, 1:33:52]: Okay, thank you, sir. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, you had your hand up again? [1:33:53, 1:33:54]: Uh yeah, so [1:33:55, 1:34:08]: I guess uh what I want to get at is there was some uh renderings. I want to respond to Ms. Gantt as well. Yes, I did uh I've had spoken with the uh developer about this to see whether or not some of the [1:34:08, 1:34:12]: uh communities uh concerns could be addressed. [1:34:13, 1:34:14]: And uh they wanted to do that. [1:34:15, 1:34:17]: Uh twenty five hundred was one of the suggestions. [1:34:18, 1:34:21]: uh that was made and let me make it perfectly clear, okay? [1:34:22, 1:34:23]: We dictate this development. [1:34:24, 1:34:27]: Yeah, we want to require twenty five hundred square feet. [1:34:27, 1:34:30]: That's what we're required. Now if they don't wanna build that, it's up to them. [1:34:30, 1:34:32]: But in the end we determine [1:34:33, 1:34:35]: what the size of the houses are going to be. [1:34:35, 1:34:40]: If it's gonna be twenty five hundred, gonna be twenty five hundred. That's what we dictate. Now if they decide not to do that. [1:34:40, 1:34:42]: Then that'll be up to them. [1:34:42, 1:34:47]: But that's the that's the way that we need to operate. We need to operate in the fact that [1:34:47, 1:34:57]: We will determine the size. They will make suggestions, but in the end we will make the size, the decisions on what was being made. Now, Miss Battle, you sent me a rendering. [1:34:57, 1:34:59]: Of the amenities uh [1:34:59, 1:35:01]: Uh for example, you don't have those. [1:35:02, 1:35:03]: Um I do. [1:35:03, 1:35:05]: Okay, can you show the Zoda? [1:35:07, 1:35:20]: Um sorry, I'm trying to get my thing to get out of the way so I can actually get to the plan. I apologize. Hold on, let me see if I can figure out how to get over here. [1:35:22, 1:35:30]: Ugh sorry. Uh let me I'm calling up my screen. I apologize. Hold on. There we go. Okay. [1:35:35, 1:35:55]: Okay, so um this was the amenity area and we also had a breakout of exactly what we were proposing in those amenity areas and we're happy to condition um based on uh the site plan is presented um and these amenity uh area enlargements along with the landscape. [1:35:55, 1:35:55]: [5756.3, 5761.6]: Right. The picture over to the right is it is that is an example of what you all build in another subdivision? [1:36:04, 1:36:08]: Uh yeah, those are examples of things that we've Well let's click on that. Okay. [1:36:08, 1:36:09]: Okay. [1:36:09, 1:36:16]: Um those are the pool. Uh the pool is in the background on that one, but the pool here. [1:36:17, 1:36:17]: Oops. [1:36:22, 1:36:25]: So we can specify a pool similar to this one. [1:36:27, 1:36:28]: That's what we should expect. [1:36:29, 1:36:33]: Uh yes, I would um I don't see any reason why you couldn't. [1:36:34, 1:36:54]: Okay, that that's what I'm saying. I mean you this is what that is fine. That is fine. Yes. Right. This is a neighborhood that you actually built, correct? Yes. Yes. Okay, so that and that's the structure and that's the example of the structure. We didn't expect anything less than what you have presented here. You got the fire pit out there. These look like excellent uh amenities. So we [1:36:54, 1:36:56]: certainly would want to h withhold. [1:36:56, 1:37:02]: uh to that standard uh of that beautiful pool that you have there. You built it there. We would certainly like for [1:37:02, 1:37:04]: uh you to build it uh here. [1:37:05, 1:37:06]: Uh for us as well. [1:37:07, 1:37:18]: And and we have no problems you conditioned it on this um presentation um which Linda has in hers, um, that we will build in alignment um with what what you're seeing here. That's fine. [1:37:18, 1:37:20]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [1:37:22, 1:37:25]: Uh Councilwoman Barber, do you have any further questions at all? [1:37:28, 1:37:32]: I do actually. Um the clubhouse. [1:37:32, 1:37:36]: Um, I know Miss Battle mentioned about a pavilion. [1:37:37, 1:37:41]: Can you tell me a little bit more about what you're doing with that pavilion? [1:37:41, 1:37:56]: I'm gonna ask um Neil Cobble. I think um we have now agreed to go to the clubhouse versus the pavilion, which was requested. Um Neil, can you just confirm that? I just wanna make sure I don't wanna misspeak. [1:37:56, 1:38:16]: Yeah, sure. So we're you know, our main focus is um with the pandemic is uh making sure that we have plenty of outdoor space, meeting space, um in our other developments that you guys mentioned that we just built there, uh some other swimming pools and outdoor facilities, is that is the big push right now. The pandemic's gonna go away. [1:38:16, 1:38:36]: At some some point, but the trend is outdoor um social distancing is has become much more relevant. People are much more aware of that. Um, and uh so our focus is outdoor gatherings. Um, and then uh we had a conversation uh with one of the council people uh earlier. [1:38:36, 1:38:56]: earlier this week about uh uh a place to meet and we've agreed that we'll enclose a section of the pavilion for a small meeting area. Um that uh um but again our focus is uh outdoor um uh for pavilions, uh for birthday parties. [1:38:56, 1:39:02]: and um things that connect to the playground um and things that are sustainable. [1:39:07, 1:39:07]: Mm. [1:39:07, 1:39:12]: Um this clubhouse is going to be built as a meeting space. [1:39:13, 1:39:14]: How many people at home? [1:39:18, 1:39:26]: Um it'll hold it'll hold it well, I don't know what the code is there and Steve may be able to speak on that, but you know, it'll hold somewhere around twenty five people. [1:39:36, 1:39:56]: Well I'll tell you what, while she's thinking, I I got a thought. I mean, twenty five people uh for a community of this size, it's not a whole lot of space for the for those folks in this aspect. And and I know where I live, we have a pretty decent sized uh clubhouse and it's gonna have meetings and and and actually citizens uh in that community can rent it for [1:39:56, 1:40:16]: particular activities. Um but uh I I would think that twenty five or max capacity of twenty five probably wouldn't cut the mustard. Uh in my my initial thoughts on that. But uh it's something that I would I would think that I hope that you look at maybe having some larger space. I don't know if that's where Ms. Barber was going with and she was maybe contemplating there. You know [1:40:15, 1:40:35]: But uh I I think that twenty twenty five for the size of that community, it it probably would not cut the mustard there. Well, and that that's our focus is the larger pavilion area, which would um handle to seventy five to a hundred people, which is uh more in line with what uh people are asked. [1:40:35, 1:40:48]: asking for in our communities um these days. They're asking for room to spread out and to be able to social distance. And uh so that's that's been the the reality of what people are asking for. [1:40:49, 1:40:53]: Sir. Stand by one second, please. I'm Ms. Barber, you're unmuted. I think you have something else. [1:40:54, 1:40:55]: Okay. [1:40:55, 1:40:57]: Outpaws for near protein. [1:40:57, 1:41:05]: Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Okay. In our discussions uh that we had uh earlier about the improvements, we were talking about fifty. [1:41:05, 1:41:09]: But no, we were not talking about twenty five. That's not gonna be acceptable. [1:41:09, 1:41:12]: So let's let's just stop with that right now, okay? [1:41:12, 1:41:14]: It's gonna be fifty or l fifty or more. [1:41:15, 1:41:16]: That's gonna be a condition. [1:41:16, 1:41:20]: So all of the things that we're telling you gonna be a condition. Fifty gonna be a condition. [1:41:21, 1:41:24]: So as we get there, if we get to that point, it it would be fifty. [1:41:27, 1:41:31]: All right. Coun uh Councilwoman Barber, you have another comment, please. [1:41:32, 1:41:35]: No. Ms. Gantt, did you have something else, ma'am? [1:41:37, 1:41:47]: Um, well, as Mayor and Council knows and some of the city, the public knows, we've had issues with parking on our streets and the streets not being wide enough. [1:41:48, 1:41:51]: Are the in this subdivision will the streets be wide? [1:41:51, 1:41:53]: What what's the length there? [1:41:56, 1:42:15]: The the width of the streets. Mm-hmm. They're twenty-six foot wide from the back of the curb to the back of the curb. And the houses will set approximately sixty-three feet off of the curb. So there'll be like I said, there should be room for three cars on each side of the driveway to park. [1:42:15, 1:42:20]: tail to front, uh three deep without encroaching in the sidewalk or the street. [1:42:21, 1:42:27]: But that's bases in the parking lot plus two in the garage. So eight. [1:42:29, 1:42:39]: Well, let me just say that there's not one, it's gonna it's a collective group of us to make decisions. Not one council member can make a decision on their own. [1:42:40, 1:42:50]: Um and I appreciate you guys giving us uh I know we've been going back and forth right now and asking a bunch of questions. We have a lot of concerned citizens that have flooded our emails. [1:42:51, 1:43:00]: um and have brought attention to this matter. And so it is our duty and our job to make sure that we're doing the best for the city of Stockbridge as a whole. [1:43:01, 1:43:03]: Um and we want to be fair to our [1:43:04, 1:43:20]: our developers as well. We are open for business. We are open for business. Um I don't want you to think that we are trying to scrutinize every single little thing, but it is important that when we're open for business, that we make sure that we bring quality. [1:43:21, 1:43:22]: Yes, ma'am, I understand. [1:43:24, 1:43:36]: I I would like to So I I just want to make sure of that. And so um having said that, I I'm still, you know, there are gonna be questions from the public and um I you know, I just want to reserve some time. [1:43:36, 1:43:47]: So that once they make their concerns, they discuss their concerns, I can come back and ask additional questions if need be. But we've been going at this for a while now. [1:43:47, 1:43:53]: I think it you know, we would add those conditions that we've required already. [1:43:53, 1:44:06]: to be met. But I also think that right now we need to speak, we need to hear from our citizens at some point so that we can come back and ask those questions if need be. [1:44:06, 1:44:07]: Yes, ma'am. [1:44:07, 1:44:12]: Well we'll do that in just a bit, uh, Ms. Gantt. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:44:13, 1:44:15]: Yeah, I think that uh councilwoman um [1:44:16, 1:44:21]: Gantt kinda t stole a little my thunder and I want to s my sentiments is exactly that. [1:44:21, 1:44:26]: You know, we welcome development. We welcome you all to choose Stockbridge to develop. [1:44:26, 1:44:29]: And uh I re will reiterate that. [1:44:29, 1:44:36]: Uh it it takes a collective effort from this whole council, not one council member on here, not one. [1:44:36, 1:44:40]: can stand alone and tell you what you're going to do and what you're not going to do. [1:44:41, 1:44:43]: And when that happens, they're speaking for me. [1:44:43, 1:44:46]: Because it has to be a collect it's it's collectively done here. [1:44:47, 1:44:53]: So I want to say thank you all for choosing Stockbridge, but we have to sit down as a council all together. [1:44:53, 1:44:59]: And decide what is acceptable for the citizens of Stockbridge as an elect as a full elected body. [1:45:00, 1:45:05]: Yes, sir. So when we I don't ever want you to feel that [1:45:05, 1:45:08]: One council member is telling you do this or else. [1:45:10, 1:45:19]: Yes, sir. We as a council as a whole will sit down, go over what we have from you all, we will listen to the citizens, and our decisions will be made accordingly. [1:45:20, 1:45:21]: Okay. [1:45:21, 1:45:32]: Okay, Councilman Thomas, you unmuted, sir. Your thoughts. Yeah, I I just want to uh echo those sentiments and and basically I wanted to sort of speak to the citizens before they really respond. [1:45:32, 1:45:33]: Um [1:45:34, 1:45:37]: You know, it is incumbent upon us to [1:45:38, 1:45:40]: Look at how we grow this city. [1:45:41, 1:45:43]: uh smartly and responsibly. [1:45:44, 1:45:50]: And and that's why we're sort of asking these questions. But I we need citizens to understand that. [1:45:50, 1:45:51]: Um [1:45:52, 1:45:54]: Future when we talk about future. [1:45:55, 1:45:59]: uh this is the the the mode that that we're in [1:46:00, 1:46:04]: Um and then we just want citizens to understand as well as developers. [1:46:05, 1:46:22]: that you know we are going to ask questions and we are going to listen to you because we do represent you. And uh I'm just so thankful that all of the emails that I received from all of the citizens, I I read them all. I may not have responded back to everyone. [1:46:22, 1:46:29]: But I just want citizens to know that we are listening, we we hear, but citizens still have to understand [1:46:29, 1:46:49]: That uh, you know, these are tough decisions and these decisions have to be made. Uh, when we start talking about traffic, um, you know, I've I've said this many times that uh transportation and roads improvement cannot keep up with development. So it's incumbent upon all of us to go. [1:46:49, 1:47:02]: Go to our state legislators and our federal and let our voices be heard about roads, about schools and things like that. [1:47:02, 1:47:04]: The city municipality [1:47:04, 1:47:10]: You know, we ought to have a voice, we ought to have an opinion when it comes to roads and schools. [1:47:10, 1:47:30]: But we all collectively have to come together to make our voice. And I'm saying this to say that we have to be proactive. We can't be reactionary. We can't wait till these developments start coming. And then all of a sudden everybody wanna just an outpour. Um, so we have to just come together and be proactive as [1:47:30, 1:47:34]: As far as uh roles and schools and those kind of things, but [1:47:34, 1:47:36]: Just be assured that [1:47:36, 1:47:37]: You know [1:47:38, 1:47:39]: The future is coming. [1:47:40, 1:48:00]: Whether we are here or not, whether we are living or dead, the future is coming. So we just have to try to do this as smartly as we can. And citizens need to understand that you know we we hear you, and we're trying to do the best that we can to make sure because we understand that your property value and [1:47:59, 1:48:02]: And you know, purchasing a home. [1:48:02, 1:48:17]: And and educating your kid, those are the two largest investments that families have. So we're not taking this lightly. And I just want to make sure that citizens understand that as well as uh developers coming to our great city of Stockbridge. [1:48:17, 1:48:18]: Thank you, Mick. [1:48:18, 1:48:21]: No problem, you're welcome. And on that note, we'll open up the public hearing. [1:48:22, 1:48:42]: So I'll open a public hearing and how this would go is that uh I'm I'm looking for folks that are for the actual development, and then we'll go we'll listen to those folks and then we'll go to four people that are against uh for that. So for four uh this, four comments for the development, and I saw a hand raised and it looks as Joss Mahoney, but it looks like [1:48:42, 1:48:45]: It's yeah, there you go. Yes, please. Go ahead and speak, ma'am. [1:48:47, 1:49:06]: Yes, you yes, you. I it says Josh. Okay, thank you. Okay. I'm I don't I'm sorry, I don't know why it says that. Um my name is Amber. I recently bought a Liberty Community home here in Henry County. I don't know, I have a few concerns because you know I'm looking to purchase another home from Liberty Count uh Co communities in Stockbridge, but I have a few concerns. Um [1:49:06, 1:49:17]: You know, excuse me as a part of the committee the what I'm saying, as this I'm asking for people that have that are for the b development. Yes, I am for it. Okay, okay, good deal. Yes, I am for it. Okay, go ahead. I mean the [1:49:18, 1:49:22]: So we have to understand that, you know, bringing the building in new communities brings a lot of [1:49:23, 1:49:32]: It's not just about the houses, it's about the jobs that it brings, and it's about bringing in newer generations to maintain those those same things. So [1:49:32, 1:49:34]: Uh, I'm completely bored with [1:49:34, 1:49:41]: The brick siding with you know sewers bringing in a sewer. I mean, I'm not sure how they don't how already have one, but you know, those are [1:49:42, 1:49:46]: put in to help, you know, with airborne diseases. You know, waste needs to be [1:49:46, 1:50:00]: distributed you know cleanly that's you need to ensure that we're not you know harboring diseases in the community um another thing is um i am for the development of the community however it's it's um [1:50:00, 1:50:20]: There's a lot of a lot of pullback that kind of it's kind of deterring me at from Stockbridge, not from Liberty Communities, because I I hear them, they're giving, they're giving, they're giving, but I don't hear from a lot of council members that they're willing to negotiate. It's over the citizens are saying. Well, we have to keep in mind that these citizens already live there and we [1:50:20, 1:50:29]: want to welcome change about. So we want to welcome new people to that city, but we can't only hear it one-sided. [1:50:30, 1:50:34]: So and so I'm for Liberty Communities and I applaud them for, you know, making [1:50:35, 1:50:49]: trying to make all these changes, but at what point are is it enough? I'm I'm I'm I'm all I'm hearing is this, this, this, no, no, no, no. But Liberty Communities are bringing about beautiful homes, affordable homes. [1:50:49, 1:51:00]: to all time all all kinds, different minorities, you know, they're they're trying to meet and these homes are very sturdy. They're they're reliable, you know, they're they are, I love this home. [1:51:01, 1:51:04]: I couldn't some of these things that I'm here, I mean it is disheartening. [1:51:05, 1:51:15]: It is disheartening. I would like to expand to Stockbridge and buy another home as a service connected veteran. I mean, but some of the things I'm hearing from the Stock Bridge community, we have to understand these are people that already there. [1:51:16, 1:51:21]: Those people won't be there forever. So we need to be able to still welcome in some some new. [1:51:21, 1:51:33]: And I I think Liberty Community, I I'm for it. I fully support it. I mean, I I hope that the community and the developers and the council members that are not for it give it a chance because what is done in Henry County is beautiful. [1:51:33, 1:51:47]: And we we need to keep that in mind. The amenities that they're bringing, let's not forget that we can't accommodate everyone in one building, and that's now. And everybody won't choose to come into one area at one time. 25 people. [1:51:47, 1:51:55]: I it's doable because we're in the middle of a pandemic. Fifty people I don't even think can be in a building six feet apart all at one time. Just just [1:51:55, 1:52:15]: You know, just just give a little. I'm for it. I support them. All right. Now let me let me say this for you, ma'am, and everybody else. I forgot two things. One is that it's a public hearing, so both for and against if individuals will be able to speak. I forgot to say to you that you need to give your name and your address, please. I'm sorry. So my name is Amber. Uh recently it changed to [1:52:15, 1:52:20]: Whitaker. I stay in Henry County Um Dickens Garden Lane, Park Place of Avalon. [1:52:21, 1:52:21]: Mm-hmm. [1:52:21, 1:52:41]: Okay. And the other thing is is that I I I don't that we need to keep a time limit on this so we don't go very long. So typically time typically our time limit is three minutes. So anybody else that has comments for and against, uh keep your time limit to three minutes, please, if you can. Mayor Pro Tem, I'm I just open session. I need to hear from the citizen. You'll get a chance to speak in a little bit. Let me get to the [1:52:41, 1:52:44]: That's the rule. [1:52:45, 1:52:54]: Well, what w I don't understand what I don't recall a rule that rule particularly. But in this act sir. That's the rule. Ten twelve minutes. [1:52:55, 1:52:59]: I don't I don't recall that off the top of my head. Mr ask Mr. Nine, please. [1:53:01, 1:53:06]: Ms. Knighton, can you clarify that? And I'm and actually our attorneys should be able to clarify that as well. [1:53:06, 1:53:13]: This aspect. I I don't recall a ten minute for or ten minute against. I think the council can determine [1:53:13, 1:53:18]: how much time that you want to allot to those who are proponents and opponents. Right. [1:53:18, 1:53:24]: So what so typically what we have when someone speaks for public comments is three minutes. So ma'am, um [1:53:24, 1:53:31]: Amber, you've already spoken. That's fine. I just I forgot to mention up front. Okay. Uh anybody else for? Uh an another. [1:53:31, 1:53:49]: Yeah, just another lady says Josh Mahoney. That's your hands up, ma'am. I uh so go ahead. I'm I'm looking at you, but I okay, your name and and address please. Yes, my name is Angela Stitt. I live at 809 McBin Court and uh I do have a McDonna address, but I do not live very far from where this development will go in. [1:53:49, 1:53:53]: And I want to state up front that I am for. [1:53:53, 1:53:56]: this development. I feel like the um [1:53:56, 1:54:08]: The spaciousness of the design overall is amazing because it allows for flexibility in what people will see when they come in. It won't be a cookie cutter. [1:54:08, 1:54:09]: type. [1:54:09, 1:54:13]: Um atmosfere, but the actual four sided brick. [1:54:13, 1:54:13]: Um [1:54:14, 1:54:34]: Structure is um wonderful because it's obviously less upkeep, but it does add to the property values. I feel like the the variety of lot sizes that they have presented will also assist in keeping the variety but yet quality neighborhood homes so that everybody [1:54:34, 1:54:38]: Nobody's house doesn't have to be or yard doesn't have to be exactly the same. [1:54:39, 1:54:48]: But yet it's still quality and we recognize that the home values will remain um in good standing. They've offered us a lot of [1:54:48, 1:55:08]: flexibleness, uh flexibility in the green spaces with trying to maintain some of the things that were already there with the pond, things like that. So I feel like in that case, not too many developers are willing to develop that much space for just a community type thing setting with um keeping in mind [1:55:08, 1:55:17]: The green spaces that are available. I also wanted to point out that, um, as my other person before me did, that what [1:55:17, 1:55:37]: One of the best things that this would do would also bring people to our area. Um, people who may not have uh thought of that area before, but being able to have the different size homes the way they are would also allow for whatever is needed for their home and their family. So I do feel like that that's [1:55:37, 1:55:39]: A benefit the good design. [1:55:39, 1:55:51]: um would assist them. So I just think it would be awesome for our community and keeping with that quality that Henry County is noted for and just inviting those families in. [1:55:51, 1:55:57]: economically, they're going to support our local businesses and we're going to benefit all the way around. [1:55:57, 1:56:09]: That's all. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Uh and madam clerk, thank you. I appreciate that. Uh your your godsend. I appreciate all the things you do. Uh anybody else, uh citizens for? [1:56:09, 1:56:13]: Any other citizen for I see um a Randy Stitt, that's if that's how you pronounce your name. [1:56:14, 1:56:17]: Yes, sir, that's correct. Ready to go ahead. Okay, go ahead, sir. [1:56:18, 1:56:23]: Thank you, sir. I live eight oh nine McVean Court in McDonald, Georgia. Henry County resident. [1:56:23, 1:56:39]: And I am for the development. Um just the simple word development is um something that I think we should focus on because it is as as was stated earlier in the council's discussions, that that is something that is considered progress moving forward. [1:56:39, 1:56:42]: And I'm all for progress and for adding and for [1:56:42, 1:56:46]: bringing in a development that would be of this quality um [1:56:46, 1:56:48]: As a homeowner and um [1:56:49, 1:56:50]: uh an investor in a home [1:56:51, 1:56:54]: I think it is important to focus on the quality of these homes. [1:56:55, 1:56:58]: Um, as was mentioned in their development, it's gonna be four sided brick. [1:56:59, 1:57:16]: And that is something that a lot of homeowners will look for, something that is um something that will be longstanding and will take a lot less homeowner maintenance and will be more aesthetically pleasing to the eye. So I think that's important for this subdivision to [1:57:17, 1:57:21]: to promote that and to show that and to be willing to do that in in the [1:57:21, 1:57:24]: home building there and also to give [1:57:24, 1:57:27]: The space for each of those lots um [1:57:27, 1:57:31]: I think that's also important to not try to put in more homes. [1:57:31, 1:57:33]: That would be suitable for that. [1:57:33, 1:57:35]: um development to go in there. [1:57:36, 1:57:39]: And for everyone to be willing to give and and to [1:57:39, 1:57:44]: make the changes and to accommodate. I think that has been a a positive aspect. [1:57:44, 1:57:57]: of this presentation this evening and to hear that they're willing to give and and to do what is is necessary to bring progress and development to that area and to make something that would be available for [1:57:57, 1:58:02]: homeowners and home buyers to to be able to move into the area and to grow. [1:58:02, 1:58:04]: And develop Henry County even more. [1:58:04, 1:58:07]: That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Stanley. Appreciate that. [1:58:08, 1:58:12]: I see home. I see a Jane hamcock, hammock, I guess it is, hammock. [1:58:14, 1:58:14]: Quay, please. [1:58:17, 1:58:18]: You have to unmute? [1:58:20, 1:58:23]: Jane Hammock, your hand is raised risen. [1:58:27, 1:58:37]: Can you hear me now? No, I can hear you, ma'am. Go right here, please. Okay, I'm sorry. I lived on this property for forty five Could you give your address, please? I'm sorry, ma'am. Please name and address, please. [1:58:38, 1:58:44]: I grew up on the property that you're discussing, seven thirty two Brandon Road. Okay. [1:58:44, 1:58:47]: And I live about a mile from there now. [1:58:48, 1:58:59]: Um I but I I lived there for 45 plus years and now I'm just a short distance away in a much smaller subdivision with much smaller lots. [1:58:59, 1:59:04]: And we as a family have no problem with the property being developed. [1:59:04, 1:59:11]: As it is more than comparable to the other developments in our neighborhood, and I think it rises above all of them. [1:59:12, 1:59:17]: And that's what I have to say. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. I really appreciate your comments. [1:59:18, 1:59:18]: Okay. [1:59:19, 1:59:22]: I have a um a chapman, is that a Cali? [1:59:22, 1:59:23]: Uh Chapman. [1:59:24, 1:59:25]: I see with a hand risen. [1:59:25, 1:59:33]: Uh yes, sir. It is uh Chapman on here, but it's recently changed to Pike. It is Kaylee Pike at four fifteen Jana Lane, McDonough, Georgia. [1:59:34, 1:59:35]: Okay. Go ahead, please. [1:59:36, 1:59:45]: Um, my name is Kayleigh Pike. Um, I am a school teacher. I'm also a long-term resident of Henry County, and I actually just bought a new home there. [1:59:45, 1:59:55]: I have several friends and coworkers who are interested in moving to Henry County. From what I understand, this community will have walking trails and other amenities that make it a great addition. [1:59:55, 2:00:00]: Um, I have been in the area all of my life and it's wonderful to see this growth coming about. [2:00:00, 2:00:08]: Um, all of the new restaurants, the new shops that are going to be added. Um, it is also very exciting to see these new homes coming to the area. [2:00:09, 2:00:17]: I am in support of this project because I believe it's a great community for my friends to have the options to purchase a new home and to enjoy with their families. [2:00:19, 2:00:20]: Thank you very much. I appreciate your comment. [2:00:21, 2:00:29]: Yes, sir. Thank you. Okay. I s I have another individual. Someone's has their mic on. Hot mic there. [2:00:29, 2:00:32]: So Josh Mahoney, an individual in a red sweater. [2:00:32, 2:00:33]: Um [2:00:33, 2:00:36]: A a website there atop. [2:00:37, 2:00:38]: Uh I think that's me. [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: Okay, we're in here, sir. Yes. What's your name and address, please? [2:00:42, 2:00:44]: Name is Frank Flucas. Um at seven zero one two [2:00:45, 2:00:46]: Becca Lane in Locust Grove, Georgia. [2:00:47, 2:00:51]: Um I'm actually a realtor. I'm actually a business owner in Henry County. [2:00:52, 2:00:52]: And [2:00:53, 2:00:56]: I feel like this is a much needed thing for the county. Uh [2:00:57, 2:00:58]: Basically right now we've got [2:00:59, 2:01:02]: A shortage of inventory, we've got we've got more buyers in inventory. [2:01:03, 2:01:05]: Liberty Bills a quality product. [2:01:05, 2:01:19]: And I feel like them bringing the product to the area is only a win-win for everybody, especially realtors for for businesses and and also for uh the the county development term of taxes and things of that nature. So I really think this is a good positive thing. [2:01:20, 2:01:22]: I think it should be approved and you know, I'm all for it. [2:01:23, 2:01:25]: Thank you, sir. I appreciate your comments. [2:01:25, 2:01:27]: Yes, um Vanessa Holiday, yes ma'am. [2:01:30, 2:01:32]: I need the gentleman to repeat his name, please. [2:01:33, 2:01:35]: My name is Frank Flukas. [2:01:35, 2:01:36]: Frank Lucas. [2:01:37, 2:01:37]: Locus. [2:01:39, 2:01:42]: Thank you. Fluc Flucas, you said flucas, right? [2:01:42, 2:01:43]: Yes. [2:01:43, 2:01:47]: Frank Frukless. Yes. Would you spell it for me, please, your last name? [2:01:48, 2:01:51]: It's F is in Frank, L-U-C-A-S. [2:01:51, 2:01:52]: Thank you. [2:01:53, 2:01:59]: Okay. Any other any other uh citizens uh four? Uh I see uh Tariska, Tarica? [2:02:00, 2:02:02]: Sorry if I mispronounced your name, ma'am. [2:02:02, 2:02:10]: Turkesa Taylor. Turkesa Turkisa Taylor. Go ahead. Yes. Name a name and address, please. Uh 175 Country Club Drive. [2:02:10, 2:02:11]: Okay, go ahead, please. [2:02:11, 2:02:12]: So [2:02:12, 2:02:17]: Um, as a resident and I'm also a realtor. [2:02:17, 2:02:26]: Um, I've been selling new homes for seventeen years and worked for all types of builders. Never have I seen a development that's proposed [2:02:27, 2:02:41]: um in this manner for you know pavilions, heating and cooling, um, bocce ball, fire pits, um, these type of amenities, um, foresight brick, and then at the starting prices that [2:02:41, 2:02:44]: that um is proposed is [2:02:45, 2:02:47]: I I wouldn't say unheard of, I just haven't [2:02:47, 2:02:56]: You know, it's unbelievable. And I feel like it's actually gonna like everyone else is saying, you know, uh providing opportunities for those people who want some [2:02:57, 2:03:17]: Uh quality built homes and in the Henry County area. I am definitely all for it and I'm excited to see what happens. I'm excited to see this development comes about. And I think that future homeowners and [2:03:17, 2:03:26]: And residents of of Stockbridge and Henry County are gonna be pleasantly supp they're gonna be very excited as well. [2:03:27, 2:03:29]: Okay. Thank you, Ma'am. Mayor Mayor Ford. [2:03:30, 2:03:30]: Yes, sir. [2:03:30, 2:03:33]: This is Randy Knights and I wanna make one correction. [2:03:33, 2:03:34]: What's that? [2:03:34, 2:03:39]: There is a section in the code that talks about public hearings before the zoning advisory board of planning commission. [2:03:40, 2:03:44]: And the mayor and council related to rezoning items twelve twelve oh oh five. [2:03:45, 2:03:47]: It does talk about ten minutes for [2:03:48, 2:03:51]: uh proponents and ten minutes for opposition. [2:03:52, 2:03:54]: There's also a section that does state. [2:03:54, 2:03:59]: That the mayor or chair of the zoning advisory board or planning commission [2:03:59, 2:04:02]: can extend the time per their discretion. [2:04:03, 2:04:23]: All right. Well, since we're already started down this road of three minutes per individual, I want to continue along that line uh to allow the people that may still have comments for and then anybody against in that aspect to be fair to both sides as best as possible. I appreciate that, uh Mr. Knight and any other research that if that was done with you or our attorneys, I appreciate that thought. [2:04:23, 2:04:31]: Sorry, Mayor Pro Tem, we're gonna go along this other line. We've already started. Uh Miss Uh Davis, uh Larae Davis, I believe you're four. [2:04:33, 2:04:53]: Unmute yourself, please. Unmute yourself. I'm sorry about that. Yep. My my name is Larae Davis and I'm actually the president of sales for Liberty um professionals on one seventy five Country Cliff Drive. I've been a realtor um in Georgia for over twenty years. I actually opened up a community um over there called the Southern Eagles Landing. Um twenty [2:04:53, 2:05:01]: Years ago, so long. But um, I do want to say I am definitely for the project because, as real estate agents, if you're watching what's happening in the market, there's not [2:05:02, 2:05:05]: enough properties in the area, good quality property. [2:05:05, 2:05:10]: projects and and I know what will we'll bring to the area. [2:05:10, 2:05:17]: Other one thing I wanted to address, I think Councilman Gingett, you were concerned about the size of the clubhouse and how many people hold. I think um [2:05:18, 2:05:38]: I live in a community that's actually 1200 homes. So you'll know our our clubhouse holds 35 people, but we do have the pavilion, which we're able to have gatherings, which we do all the time in the community for over probably about 50 to 75 people because the as long as we open the doors to extend it, we're able to extend it all the way out. So it's it's really nice. [2:05:38, 2:05:40]: really nice and it it would definitely work. [2:05:40, 2:05:48]: So I don't want y'all to think just because it's a number 25, you can't still host your events. That's one of the great things about having cover, having the um the uh [2:05:48, 2:05:55]: The fire pit area is is very nice. And I would love for y'all to come take a tour if you ever want to. So you can actually see how it looks, but it's really nice. [2:05:56, 2:06:16]: I'm definitely for the project. Okay. Thank you, Ms. Davis, for your comments. Um, I uh is there any more four before we go to any anybody against? Any more four? I don't see any others. So if that is the case, we will uh identify people that uh have uh comments against this particular project for one reason or another. Anyone that is against [2:06:16, 2:06:22]: Against uh any comments, any hands? I still don't see anybody. [2:06:24, 2:06:30]: Okay. I don't see anybody that is against the right now, Mayor uh Mayor, give me just a second. [2:06:31, 2:06:31]: Okay. [2:06:42, 2:06:43]: Uh Susan Cannon. [2:06:44, 2:06:45]: Yeah, so [2:06:46, 2:06:47]: Please unmute yourself. [2:06:50, 2:06:54]: Hi, can you hear me now? Go right, go right ahead, Miss Cannon. [2:06:54, 2:06:59]: Okay, my name is Susan Cannon. I live at six oh four Page Court in Moss Court. [2:06:59, 2:07:08]: uh Moss Point and we are a to our community. Uh there's been a lot of talk about the traffic, but I think the focus is not where it needs to be on the traffic and [2:07:08, 2:07:13]: Two thousand nineteen they say there were thirty six hundred cars traveling this road. [2:07:13, 2:07:17]: Um thirty six hundred tr uh cards, there's probably more than that now. [2:07:18, 2:07:18]: But [2:07:19, 2:07:25]: We're looking at thirty six hundred traveling Brennan Road from one end of Brennan to the other. [2:07:25, 2:07:36]: That may not be a very high area if you look at that total area. But I think where we need to focus is in this very short distance uh between Moss Point [2:07:36, 2:07:38]: And Clark Meadows. [2:07:38, 2:07:40]: This is just several hundred yards. [2:07:41, 2:07:47]: There's going to be approximately nine hundred cars in these three neighborhoods. If each house has [2:07:47, 2:07:52]: three uh two cars and about twenty five percent of them are gonna have three. What goes out must come in. [2:07:53, 2:08:05]: We're looking at about eighteen hundred cars possibly just from these three neighborhoods that are going to be jumping into the road and just several hundred yards. And then from that point down to the school. [2:08:05, 2:08:18]: We're looking at less than an eighth of a mile from where the first dense subdivision will start having traffic coming out until you get to the crosswalk at an elementary school. [2:08:18, 2:08:26]: So I think that looking at that number of cars in that short space with three subdivisions dumping into it. [2:08:26, 2:08:28]: And a school there. [2:08:28, 2:08:31]: is a little different from looking at a long wide open road. [2:08:32, 2:08:37]: The other thing is sub uh Stockbridge is a small peninsula of land. [2:08:38, 2:08:39]: on Brandon Road. [2:08:39, 2:08:44]: It's surrounded by urban, I mean by um rural property. [2:08:45, 2:08:47]: And we already have two [2:08:47, 2:08:51]: Of the most dense subdivisions on Brandon Road. [2:08:51, 2:08:55]: Right here in this little piece of land called the city of Stockbridge. [2:08:56, 2:08:58]: If we put the subdivision in [2:08:58, 2:09:07]: We will be outlining the city of Stockbridge. We won't need welcome to the city of Stockbridge. It's gonna be that little spot of land. [2:09:08, 2:09:09]: In this role area. [2:09:09, 2:09:10]: They're useful. [2:09:11, 2:09:14]: It has three subdivisions in it that are high density. [2:09:15, 2:09:17]: I think that this is an opportunity to make our mark. [2:09:18, 2:09:23]: We are not looking at trying to keep the uh Clark family from selling. [2:09:23, 2:09:24]: This is [2:09:24, 2:09:25]: Oh [2:09:25, 2:09:26]: Specified mail. [2:09:26, 2:09:30]: Or a they can sell this land in one acre lots. [2:09:30, 2:09:38]: If you look right behind them on Salem Road, those lots are an acre to an acre and a half and the homes are sold before they ever start breaking the land. [2:09:38, 2:09:41]: You look at the freestanding homes. [2:09:41, 2:09:46]: on Brandon Road heading south, the large brick homes. [2:09:46, 2:09:50]: Homes north and south of Campground Road. [2:09:50, 2:10:08]: Uh there has been some remarks about minorities or ethnics. I'm sorry, you're three minutes are now up, ma'am. Okay. There is diversity in these large homes. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Uh Ms. Perryman, uh your uh have comments against this project. [2:10:08, 2:10:09]: Is that correct? [2:10:10, 2:10:13]: And so please unmute yourself and and let us know what your concerns are. [2:10:14, 2:10:15]: Ms. Perryman. [2:10:15, 2:10:16]: Anna Perriman. [2:10:21, 2:10:23]: Ms. Perryman, can you unmute yourself, please? [2:10:32, 2:10:33]: Okay, there you go. [2:10:33, 2:10:36]: Oh name name and address please, Ms. Perryman. [2:10:37, 2:10:49]: Okay. I don't know how I came under I couldn't get in it the other way. My name is Barber Fleischman. I live at 10 26 Brandon Road, McDonough, Georgia. And I've lived here 30 years. I have nine acres and um [2:10:50, 2:10:51]: I would just say [2:10:52, 2:11:03]: I have one comment about what Linda Logan said because I was in on the planning and zoning committee and every member of it voted against this project. So there wasn't anybody on that committee that voted for this. [2:11:03, 2:11:07]: So I was kind of um shocked at her comment that they were sort of for it. [2:11:08, 2:11:09]: But anyway, um [2:11:09, 2:11:11]: The traffic study is flawed. [2:11:11, 2:11:15]: Um, the traffic on Brandon Road is very heavy as it is now. [2:11:16, 2:11:17]: Um [2:11:18, 2:11:21]: We we're not opposed to having [2:11:22, 2:11:25]: more here, but we would like to have larger lots. [2:11:25, 2:11:29]: That is a tremendous amount of number of houses to put in there. [2:11:30, 2:11:31]: And wild wood. [2:11:31, 2:11:41]: is right in between my house and the proposed development. They have large lots in there. So the larger lots are selling. This is still a rural area and we'd like to keep it that m way. [2:11:41, 2:11:49]: as much as possible. Like I said, we're not against having houses built in there, but we would prefer uh, you know. [2:11:49, 2:11:50]: At least [2:11:50, 2:11:53]: twenty five hundred square feet be the minimum and [2:11:54, 2:12:00]: in larger lots, you know, half acre and up,'cause those are just that's just the density is just too much for the area. [2:12:00, 2:12:20]: And the school, they have I don't know how much room they would have to spread out to allow new students. That land was taken, I understand, by eminent domain. So they could either there's houses on either side. So I guess they'd have to take somebody's house if they want to expand the school. And I don't think people would be for that. So I'm totally against this development as [2:12:20, 2:12:22]: Going forward as it is. Thank you. [2:12:22, 2:12:32]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate your comments. Um, I see a uh Miss uh uh Bonda Allen. Are you speaking uh against this project, ma'am? Miss Allen. [2:12:34, 2:12:41]: You're saying Yolanda Allen. That's me. Yes, ma'am. Go right ahead. You're you comment. Hi, good evening, everybody. Name and address, please. [2:12:42, 2:12:46]: Uh Yolanda Allen, four six five at Story Away. I live in the Clark Meadows subdivision. [2:12:48, 2:12:49]: Go ahead, please. [2:12:49, 2:13:07]: Um, I kind of like to echo a little bit on what Ms. Fleischman Fleischmann had mentioned in regards to the minimum lot size uh or the square footage on the homes and the um the density of the homes. You know, would the uh builder consider maybe decreasing [2:13:07, 2:13:09]: Uh the density. [2:13:09, 2:13:17]: Of the homes. I think as it stands now, it's 139 homes. Maybe consider going down to maybe about 125. [2:13:17, 2:13:19]: And increasing the square footage. [2:13:20, 2:13:36]: on the lots and the home sizes as well. As far as all the other designs, adding the pool and the four-sided brick. I mean those all sound good and well and it sounds beautiful. And I think it would complement what we have here in my subdivision. [2:13:37, 2:13:44]: Um, I just also think that we don't have in in the the city of Stockbridge and McDonough. [2:13:45, 2:13:51]: Enough of amenities outside of what's being built, such as um [2:13:51, 2:14:00]: Family style restaurants, uh shopping as compared to other high-end uh counties such as Cog County. [2:14:01, 2:14:03]: We don't have all of those things to kind of [2:14:04, 2:14:05]: Um [2:14:06, 2:14:15]: uh go with uh what what we're having built here in the city of stockbridge. We don't have those amenities. And I just feel like it's it's it's [2:14:16, 2:14:22]: In the end, we're still gonna have people leaving our county, going to other counties and putting money, investing money in their counties. [2:14:23, 2:14:27]: uh as opposed to investing in our county since we don't have those same type of amenities. [2:14:28, 2:14:32]: So I think about that as well, you know, um as far as, you know. [2:14:32, 2:14:33]: You know. [2:14:33, 2:14:35]: Building homes here. [2:14:35, 2:14:36]: Um [2:14:37, 2:14:41]: I'm against it um b for those reasons and um [2:14:42, 2:14:47]: I think that's all I have to say. I mean, but I would really would like for the builder to consider. [2:14:48, 2:14:54]: uh decreasing the amount of homes and maybe increasing the uh the lot size and the [2:14:54, 2:14:58]: The square footage on the homes. I think that would be a lot nicer. [2:14:58, 2:15:02]: um for this area if they do decide, you know, to make those changes. [2:15:04, 2:15:06]: Thank you, Ms. Allen. I appreciate your comments. [2:15:06, 2:15:07]: All right, thank you. [2:15:07, 2:15:08]: Okay. [2:15:08, 2:15:13]: Uh I have a Wendy Kirkpatrick. I saw your hand was raised. You had a hand raised. [2:15:13, 2:15:19]: Wendy Kirkpatrick. Yes, sir. Thank you. Um thank you. Name and address, please. [2:15:20, 2:15:24]: Um my name is Wendy Kilpatrick. I live at three three four Brandon Road, McDonough, Georgia. [2:15:25, 2:15:25]: Um [2:15:25, 2:15:30]: I would like to echo uh the sentiments of for oko opposition. [2:15:30, 2:15:41]: Uh just as everyone else has stated, uh with the traffic concerns, the education infrastructure, um, I would like the board to consider or council to consider. [2:15:41, 2:15:42]: Um they [2:15:43, 2:15:43]: Uh [2:15:43, 2:15:52]: impact that it's going to have on our education system. We do not want to be a Clayton County where it does it's dysfunct because everybody's moving to Henry County. [2:15:52, 2:15:53]: And we just can't um [2:15:53, 2:15:55]: Hold everyone in the schools. [2:15:55, 2:16:06]: Um, we would really like for you guys to uh consider the traffic study because it was done during COVID um and it was not um dur during routine times. [2:16:07, 2:16:07]: Um [2:16:08, 2:16:12]: We would like for you to consider the planning and zoning board uh decision. [2:16:13, 2:16:15]: Uh they were all opposed to it. [2:16:15, 2:16:20]: Um and you guys uh employ those individuals to seek counsel to you. [2:16:20, 2:16:28]: Uh, they actually listen to our concerns and um and I'm hoping that uh as counsel here that you guys will also. [2:16:29, 2:16:31]: Uh listen to your planning and zoning. Um [2:16:32, 2:16:33]: Decision [2:16:33, 2:16:35]: It was a very careful decision. [2:16:36, 2:16:36]: Um [2:16:37, 2:16:42]: like to make sure that everyone understands that this might have conflict of interest. [2:16:42, 2:16:47]: Um, I see a lot of people that are are for this, but I can see that if you're in real estate. [2:16:47, 2:16:52]: Uh you would probably be for this because it would be for more money for the area. [2:16:52, 2:16:58]: My consideration would also to be to consider the zoning uh to just be R one or R two. [2:16:58, 2:17:00]: Um which is commensurate for this area. [2:17:01, 2:17:02]: Uh we uh [2:17:02, 2:17:04]: We are not opposed to growth. [2:17:04, 2:17:08]: А ви аппи да Форсайд Брикс. [2:17:08, 2:17:11]: Um and we are not opposed to [2:17:11, 2:17:15]: Um having another development here. But as we have stated before. [2:17:15, 2:17:32]: Um, there are some concerns about this proposal. We're also concerned about our rights after the fact that if this does get passed, um if they would be allowed to change the zoning again ha has it been in the other uh like Clark Meadows was R two to R three. [2:17:32, 2:17:34]: So uh that is my opposition. [2:17:35, 2:17:37]: Thank you, Mr. Pro Pratt. Appreciate it. [2:17:37, 2:17:45]: Um I see a a Gene Strickland. Are you uh against this project, sir? You need to make comments to this for this. [2:17:48, 2:18:05]: Gene is with uh Liberty Community. I'm on the Liberty Community thing. Okay, screw me. Okay, I got you. No problem. Thank you. Okay, anybody else? Uh a uh is there a I see a uh Veneera Vern Verna, I guess Ferg uh Ferry? [2:18:07, 2:18:08]: Yes, can you hear me? [2:18:08, 2:18:11]: Yes, I can hear you. Your name and address, please, ma'am. [2:18:11, 2:18:31]: Martin and Verna Ferry, 406 North Salem Drive and McDonough. We want to thank the Mayor Ford and Council for listening to us and giving us this opportunity. We're not opposed to the uh development, to a development. We're just opposed RA to R3. [2:18:31, 2:18:51]: That is not contingent with the rest of our area. If you take a look at the maps that have shown, uh this parcel is like the big toe on the end of the foot. It is surrounded by RA and R1 and R2 properties. We are unincorporated Henry County, not City and [2:18:51, 2:18:59]: Don, this is the only parcel or city of Stockbridge. I'm sorry, this is the only parcel that is City of Stockbridge, and we're asking you to. [2:19:00, 2:19:20]: try to conform along with our community and at what we're looking at. We would like for the zoning to complement our area, not to, not to congest it and uh to enhance it instead. We we appreciate you listening to us. We'd also like to leave a little bit of our time, if we can, to go [2:19:19, 2:19:34]: towards Mark Jones. He has a uh a uh PowerPoint presentation that the community got together that we would like you to to look at because this covers all the points we were we're thinking about. Thank you very much. [2:19:34, 2:19:43]: Thank you, Ms. Uh Ferry. Okay, so you mentioned a Mr. Mark Jones. Uh and Mr. Jones, uh [2:19:44, 2:19:50]: I have to admit I don't see you. Uh my eyes may be deceiving me here. Um [2:19:52, 2:19:53]: I don't see him either. [2:19:53, 2:20:05]: Okay. Besides Mr. Jones, if he pops up, uh anybody else uh that has comments uh that's uh uh not for this particular development. Anybody? [2:20:07, 2:20:08]: Anybody else? [2:20:10, 2:20:27]: Sir, um Mark Jones has uh stated that he cannot get into the link that he was provided. He has been our elected spokesperson. Um I had to leave early to uh attend a an accident. Um and so I didn't know that he hadn't spoken for the behalf of our community. We he has a [2:20:27, 2:20:31]: lengthy presentation to for the board he did for [2:20:31, 2:20:38]: the planning and zoning committee as well. So um I didn't know he was not afforded the opportunity to speak. Um can we try to get him a link? [2:20:40, 2:20:42]: Well, okay. How uh hm. [2:20:43, 2:20:48]: Mayor Yes, who who yeah Attorney Gantt, I mean Councilwoman Gantt. Yes. [2:20:48, 2:20:49]: All right. [2:20:49, 2:20:50]: Um [2:20:51, 2:21:01]: I did see where Mark Jones did put in a QA that he was trying how do he how how does he have the opportunity to share his screen? [2:21:02, 2:21:03]: However, that was at six twenty. [2:21:05, 2:21:12]: PM. I don't know if he's still on here or not. Um, so he he was here and he asked, How can I share my screen? [2:21:13, 2:21:14]: That's it. [2:21:14, 2:21:34]: Okay, well I don't see him now and I would imagine if we were going to uh see us show a screen, uh I would imagine that the IT would be able to allow him in to do that. Um now granted we've been having these conversations for only three minutes, so I don't know if you can do this in three minutes if he's back on um in this aspect. So [2:21:35, 2:21:43]: Let's see here. Besides Mr. Jones, is anybody else that uh has any comments against this uh project that's available right now? [2:21:44, 2:21:45]: Joanne Young? [2:21:46, 2:21:47]: Excuse me. [2:21:47, 2:21:55]: Hello? Oh you hear me? Yes, Joanne Young. Okay, my name Joanne Young. Um I live six one six Vindela Circle. [2:21:56, 2:21:59]: I lived here for at least uh almost eight years. [2:21:59, 2:22:01]: It's a wonderful place to live. [2:22:01, 2:22:04]: But I have a problem. If if you all [2:22:04, 2:22:08]: Uh commissioner uh politicians can promise to [2:22:09, 2:22:11]: Build uh the school. [2:22:11, 2:22:12]: And um [2:22:13, 2:22:17]: And the roads need to be uh developed better. [2:22:17, 2:22:21]: 'Cause it's so narrow, it's dangerous, no lights, no sidewalks. [2:22:22, 2:22:23]: Does I I have [2:22:23, 2:22:28]: been to different areas in um Stockbridge or McDonald. [2:22:28, 2:22:37]: And they have sidewalks. You don't see too many houses because they into subdivision, but they have sidewalks all the way up the hill, all the way down the hill. [2:22:37, 2:22:40]: But here I see people they break down. [2:22:41, 2:22:45]: And and and then the roads is narrow when you go down Brennan and Road. [2:22:45, 2:22:47]: And you almost have getting to accident. [2:22:48, 2:22:49]: because it's no shoulder. [2:22:50, 2:22:52]: And sell and roll. [2:22:52, 2:22:52]: That's [2:22:53, 2:22:56]: Dangerous. That road, no lights, no [2:22:56, 2:22:57]: uh as narrow [2:22:58, 2:22:59]: Now think about the Russia out. [2:23:00, 2:23:02]: People trying to get on the other side to get on East Lake. [2:23:03, 2:23:03]: Okay. [2:23:04, 2:23:05]: So somebody break down there. [2:23:06, 2:23:08]: Was it's only just one light. [2:23:08, 2:23:12]: So a lot of people going to be late for work or [2:23:12, 2:23:15]: It it's just gonna be gridlocked. That's what I see. [2:23:16, 2:23:16]: But [2:23:16, 2:23:18]: If you all can promise to [2:23:18, 2:23:22]: uh develop more on that elementary school [2:23:22, 2:23:27]: Bring more teachers, more classes, like more buildings for the [2:23:27, 2:23:28]: Kids. [2:23:29, 2:23:33]: That would be great. You can build houses, but if you're gonna build all these houses. [2:23:34, 2:23:38]: 'Cause I think it's another uh lot down there. I think forty two, forty three acres. [2:23:39, 2:23:40]: They wanna build too. [2:23:41, 2:23:42]: So you build all the houses. [2:23:43, 2:23:45]: But the school is not developed. [2:23:45, 2:23:49]: That mean per house probably gonna be two to three kids. [2:23:49, 2:23:53]: Then they're gonna wind up at that elementary school, Hickory Flat. [2:23:54, 2:23:57]: And then that gonna be chaos. You're gonna have like maybe [2:23:57, 2:23:58]: Uh uh [2:23:58, 2:24:00]: Maybe twenty or thirty kids. [2:24:00, 2:24:01]: One teacher [2:24:02, 2:24:03]: And they're gonna be a problem. [2:24:03, 2:24:06]: For our kids to develop and learn. [2:24:06, 2:24:07]: And be educated. [2:24:08, 2:24:09]: So [2:24:09, 2:24:11]: That's the that's what I'm thinking about. [2:24:11, 2:24:13]: I'll oppose it, but [2:24:13, 2:24:14]: It's okay to build. [2:24:14, 2:24:16]: But to put all the houses [2:24:16, 2:24:18]: And don't do nothing to the schools. [2:24:18, 2:24:21]: Don't do none to the roads, don't do nothing to the lights. [2:24:22, 2:24:24]: That's when it's gonna be a failure. That's it. [2:24:25, 2:24:45]: Thank you, Ms. Uh Ms. Young. Um, I got another message about Mr. Jones here. I don't know how we can get him a link to get in to for this briefing presentation. If we're able to do that, fantastic. But I've also been told or seen that there's a couple other individuals that are currently on uh that want to make comments uh against so uh raise hand. So [2:24:45, 2:24:49]: So uh let me see where are these individuals? Who are they here? [2:24:50, 2:24:52]: Elisa Lyons. Elise Alliance. [2:24:53, 2:24:58]: Okay, we're okay. Miss Lions, go ahead and your name and address, please. [2:24:58, 2:25:03]: Good evening, sir. Uh my name is Eliza Lyons. We're on six fifteen North Salem Drive. [2:25:04, 2:25:06]: Uh, we've been here. [2:25:06, 2:25:17]: for a while now, along with uh some of our friends uh met the Ferry family right down the street. We've been friends with them for a long time. And as we talked in most of the community meetings previously, [2:25:18, 2:25:19]: Our [2:25:19, 2:25:28]: Primary issue is not with development. We are fine with it. We understand that growth is going to come. Henry County is a very quickly building place. [2:25:28, 2:25:33]: Uh, but we also want that to be controlled growth and planned growth. [2:25:33, 2:25:41]: This sub subdivision is going to bring too many people at once into a very compact area of the street. [2:25:41, 2:25:45]: We have other subdivisions there as long as also as well as uh [2:25:46, 2:25:48]: R Street that comes out into a very small area. [2:25:49, 2:25:56]: Which would cause congestion. There's no plans for stop signs, traffic lights, anything that would help with that issue. [2:25:57, 2:25:58]: Окурс [2:25:58, 2:26:00]: Several people have also brought up uh [2:26:00, 2:26:03]: Issues with the schools, there's no planned growth there. [2:26:04, 2:26:05]: There's no budget for it yet. [2:26:05, 2:26:06]: There's gonna be [2:26:07, 2:26:08]: Large influx of children. [2:26:09, 2:26:13]: People, cars, all these things that have not been prepped for yet. [2:26:14, 2:26:18]: with the southern uh community of this size coming into the area. [2:26:18, 2:26:19]: So again if [2:26:20, 2:26:28]: It was a smaller community coming in where it the growth would be a bit more gradual, that would be something we would be less opposed to. [2:26:30, 2:26:50]: All right, thank you, ma'am. I appreciate your comments. And I believe I saw that their Mark Jones is now online. And if he is, then uh he has a briefing. If he can do that briefing quickly and get the information out, would appreciate it. Um Mr. Jones, are you there? Yes, can you hear me? I can hear you, sir. So [2:26:50, 2:26:54]: Um is okay, there we go. Uh screen sharing. Oops. [2:26:55, 2:26:57]: Uh let me get my presentation up. I'm sorry. [2:26:57, 2:27:03]: I had a hard time getting in and I have no reason why. Why they were so hard. [2:27:04, 2:27:04]: Um [2:27:06, 2:27:09]: We go into slideshow view. [2:27:14, 2:27:15]: Get out of here. [2:27:17, 2:27:24]: Um let me just just do this. I know uh time is is is is is limited. Well time will start when you start your briefing, sir. Okay. [2:27:24, 2:27:25]: Um [2:27:25, 2:27:27]: So you can see my screen, I'll just go full screen from here. [2:27:28, 2:27:28]: Um [2:27:30, 2:27:32]: Mark my name's Mark Jones. I live at uh [2:27:32, 2:27:34]: Uh in the Westminster subdivision. [2:27:35, 2:27:37]: And I'm just gonna kinda make this brief. [2:27:38, 2:27:40]: Um as you can see here the [2:27:41, 2:27:44]: Area that's being rezoned. [2:27:44, 2:27:48]: is among m all this area which is unincorporated mc McDonna. [2:27:49, 2:27:52]: This part right here is stock bridge. So the surrounding area. [2:27:53, 2:27:58]: Most of this area is unincorporated McDonough and what's being rezoned is right here. [2:27:59, 2:28:05]: And our proposal is that this no three sides of it is RA and it's really not [2:28:05, 2:28:05]: Uh [2:28:07, 2:28:09]: ready for the that type of development. [2:28:10, 2:28:13]: Like I said, the surrounding the stock rayside. [2:28:13, 2:28:16]: You know, you have Crown Walkers is R one, Moss Point is R two. [2:28:17, 2:28:20]: Clark Metal, which on the front part of it is R two. [2:28:20, 2:28:23]: But the back part of it phase other phases are [2:28:24, 2:28:25]: It's R three. [2:28:25, 2:28:27]: And when they talk about density. [2:28:27, 2:28:33]: No, they're talking about you know battle and um the developer talks about gross density, but the zoning [2:28:34, 2:28:37]: Your zoning laws talk about net density. I'll talk about that in a minute. [2:28:39, 2:28:41]: Uh let me just kind of [2:28:41, 2:28:46]: And I appreciate the the the initial proposal obviously was a hundred and forty seven homes. [2:28:46, 2:28:51]: And um I appreciate the um developer, you know, adding some things to it, you know. [2:28:51, 2:28:52]: dropping the homes down. [2:28:53, 2:28:57]: From one thirty seven to one thirty nine. That's only a five to a five percent decrease. [2:28:58, 2:29:00]: Um, the home buys went up, which is good. [2:29:01, 2:29:04]: But you know, I said there's no standard clubhouse size. [2:29:04, 2:29:07]: Um and stuff like that. So the other [2:29:08, 2:29:14]: Thing is that, you know, value in their market analysis, they stress, you know, so many people are signing them to move to Henry County, which is true. [2:29:15, 2:29:18]: There is a strong market for people who want large high end homes. [2:29:19, 2:29:20]: But that's not a but [2:29:21, 2:29:25]: But people don't want large yards that don't want to be maintained. But there is another market as well. [2:29:26, 2:29:28]: And if you look at the imagine Henry uh [2:29:29, 2:29:30]: uh vision publication [2:29:30, 2:29:36]: There is a large market for people who have who want larger homes. [2:29:37, 2:29:44]: I mean you know, just having the small homes, uh I mean large lots on on uh large homes on small lots, there's there's more [2:29:45, 2:29:45]: In that. [2:29:46, 2:29:47]: So basically [2:29:48, 2:29:51]: We just go to go to this one right here. [2:29:53, 2:29:58]: So for Clark Mells, everything was was basically, you know, compared to that. [2:29:58, 2:30:03]: We gotta remember that took basically, you know, six years to build out that that subdivision. [2:30:03, 2:30:04]: Um [2:30:05, 2:30:09]: There's fifteen homes along Brennan Road that's developed under phase one, which is R two. [2:30:10, 2:30:11]: А сам понят і вас хейт. [2:30:11, 2:30:15]: And but the other remaining 127 homes were built. [2:30:15, 2:30:20]: under R three zoning and those houses are spaced ten to twenty feet apart. [2:30:21, 2:30:28]: And so there again, we have a R2 would give you a density, a gross density of 1.6 and a net density of 2.1. [2:30:29, 2:30:32]: But a R three gives you a gross density of three. [2:30:32, 2:30:36]: And uh and the net density of three point five. So why is that important? [2:30:39, 2:30:41]: That's because of your own zoning laws. [2:30:42, 2:30:43]: Now when you [2:30:44, 2:30:45]: For this development [2:30:47, 2:30:55]: The new development should demonstrate attention to the existing jacent neighborhoods and seek compatibility with the surrounding lot size. [2:30:55, 2:30:58]: So if you look at the medium density residential. [2:30:58, 2:31:03]: is up to six net dwelling units per area. This is net, not gross. [2:31:03, 2:31:08]: This should be low residential low density residential, which is up to two net. [2:31:08, 2:31:10]: Yeah, within per acre. [2:31:11, 2:31:20]: Mayor, I want to approve additional time. Okay. So and then again, so if you go to R2, you have three thousand square feet. [2:31:20, 2:31:25]: versus R three, which is eighteen thousand square feet, and what's not being met [2:31:25, 2:31:28]: Із ідеона до. [2:31:28, 2:31:30]: So we've got s suggested [2:31:31, 2:31:32]: as an alternative development. [2:31:32, 2:31:43]: You know, to do a upscale sync uh fifty five plus you know housing units. Cause I'm sorry, can you go back to the first that slide you just went to slide twenty real quick? One second. [2:31:48, 2:31:53]: It should be noted that these are Henry County and this is not the Stockbridge um requirements. [2:31:55, 2:32:00]: Yes, ma'am. Thank you. I just wanna I wanna see what they're talking about. That's fine. Go ahead. Okay. [2:32:04, 2:32:09]: Okay, so you know, the main thing is to remove the the purpose of this of the stock bridge zoning code. [2:32:10, 2:32:16]: is to promote the health, safety, aesthetics and convenience and order and prosperity for the general weather of the present and future. [2:32:16, 2:32:23]: And to minimize congestion and to prevent overcrowding of land, avoiding uh undue concentration of urban sprawl. [2:32:24, 2:32:26]: In closing, you know. [2:32:26, 2:32:33]: Um the Stockbridge uh PNZ members have involved with every aspect of the proposal and their recommendation was no. [2:32:34, 2:32:41]: Um you have to consider also is that the R two zoning would be an ex acceptable alternative. [2:32:41, 2:32:47]: No, that would match Clark Meadows phase one net density of two point one units per acre. [2:32:47, 2:32:52]: Which is around ninety five homes on forty eight acres.'Cause you gotta look at the math on this. [2:32:52, 2:32:55]: If you're talking about a hundred and thirty nine homes. [2:32:55, 2:33:01]: On only you know forty five or forty eight uh develop uh uh acres. [2:33:01, 2:33:03]: You know, you're talking about three units per acre. [2:33:04, 2:33:05]: And [2:33:05, 2:33:08]: That's around fourteen thousand square feet. [2:33:08, 2:33:24]: Now some of those homes on the front part of it are going to be larger, like they said. And that means the rest of them in the back are going to be smaller, closer towards the quarter quarter acre size or around a third of an acre. [2:33:24, 2:33:30]: And that's the problem that we're having because if you look at the you know the all the area around it. [2:33:30, 2:33:35]: And also, you know, they are considering the other traffic that McDonough [2:33:35, 2:33:38]: is going to be having as well because there's going to be [2:33:39, 2:33:41]: Like I saw on the picture I show before. [2:33:42, 2:33:48]: You know, they got development that's going on um Eagles Landing Parkway at the stone at um [2:33:49, 2:33:49]: Um [2:33:50, 2:33:52]: The road that runs into Brandon Road. [2:33:53, 2:33:57]: So th if they're building a large development there, there's gonna be a lot of in uh traffic. [2:33:58, 2:34:08]: not only from the Stockbridge side, but also from the McDonough side. And so anything that's really large like this is going to make the traffic even worse. And that's not being considered. [2:34:09, 2:34:19]: Because what you're seeing is everything from the stock produced uh perspective, but nothing from the other three sides of it, which is the unincorporated McDonald McDonough. [2:34:20, 2:34:37]: All right, sir. Appreciate it, Mr. Jones. Appreciate your presentation. Thank you, sir, very much. Um are there any other uh any other comments uh against? And if not, and then we'll I would end the uh this uh particular public hearing. Um [2:34:38, 2:34:58]: I don't see any others. Okay. If I have no others, then I would end this public hearing. I would end this public hearing in reference to the public comments. And now that that is ended, we did for and against. And on that note, we'll go back to the council for your final comments. And Mayor Pro Tem Alexander actually had his hand up at first. [2:34:58, 2:35:00]: Because uh I want uh [2:35:01, 2:35:05]: the applicant to come back and and respond to [2:35:06, 2:35:09]: Uh some of the assertions that were made uh by the [2:35:09, 2:35:13]: by the public. For example, Mister Jones said. [2:35:13, 2:35:15]: Uh a lot of the homes in the rear. [2:35:16, 2:35:19]: Would be smaller homes. Is that true or no? [2:35:20, 2:35:22]: Um that is not true. [2:35:22, 2:35:42]: And when we look at the um the site plan, I apologize, that's a letter I got up there. Hold on one second. Um we have um provided to you all the overall um requirements with regards to the um [2:35:42, 2:36:02]: site and I do actually have the information with regards to the unit sizes um that were that was requested and I apologize it looks like I closed my stuff accidentally um so I'm pulling it back up but I do have the actual um uh [2:36:02, 2:36:11]: lot size information um that had been requested and on the site plan, which I'm pulling up now. [2:36:18, 2:36:20]: Right here. All right. [2:36:21, 2:36:41]: So um when we look at the lots, for example, um we had increased the buffer um from 30 feet to 50 feet along this perimeter, which was cor um requested by um the community members. Um additionally, if we look at the lot sizes starting at lot. [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: eighty eight. [2:36:43, 2:37:03]: And if I go up to the screen, we do have um on the rear side of the property, um, the lots start at uh lot 68 and 69, and we are at roughly 17,000 uh square feet on lots 68 and 69. [2:37:03, 2:37:18]: Um the lots that go down uh the back side are the 12,000 square foot lots uh down a good portion um of the back of the project until we get to around 87. [2:37:19, 2:37:23]: The I'm sorry, the total amount of lots of four feet lots. [2:37:23, 2:37:42]: Okay, so I've got that information for us. Um, we've got 41 lots that are at 12,000 square feet. We've got 20 lots between 12,000 and 13,000 square feet. We've got roughly 28 lots between 13 and 15, and 50 lots between uh at 15 or up. [2:37:44, 2:37:45]: Okay, and um [2:37:45, 2:37:47]: There was a reference made to [2:37:47, 2:37:50]: There was no sidewalks on Brennan uh road. [2:37:51, 2:37:54]: Uh, does this proposal include some sidewalks with Brandon Road? [2:37:55, 2:38:15]: Absolutely. Um, we are doing 10-foot sidewalks along the frontage um of Brandon Road. And so where currently there are no sidewalks, when you look at the um community at Clark Meadows, they only did sidewalks right at the entrance. Um, we are doing sidewalks the entire length of the frontage. Um [2:38:15, 2:38:27]: um on Brandon Road and then this little slice of area here um going up towards North Salem Road. So we have um uh well over I don't know what the length of that um [2:38:28, 2:38:32]: area is here, but I'm sure it's more than a a thousand lineal feet. [2:38:32, 2:38:46]: I'm sorry, attorney battle. I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tem, but can you repeat those numbers for me a little bit slower? I'm trying to write them down and and get it off. I got 41 homes. There you go. There you go. It's a hundred and [2:38:47, 2:38:48]: Thank you. [2:38:48, 2:39:08]: There you go. And I can talk while I'm doing that. So there's um uh we do have sidewalks along the entire frontage again. Um I don't have the exact uh lineal uh footage along there, but um it is a pretty good distance because we're almost at the entrance to Moss uh Point and all the way past the entrance. [2:39:08, 2:39:11]: entrance um at uh at Clark Meadows. [2:39:15, 2:39:20]: And those will be ten foot wide sidewalks. Will there be will there be side entry garages in this community? [2:39:21, 2:39:31]: Yes, there will be side entry garages on the larger lots. Um, we're expecting probably about uh 15% of those lots, 10 to 15 percent on the lots to have side entry garages. [2:39:32, 2:39:33]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [2:39:35, 2:39:35]: Okay. [2:39:36, 2:39:36]: Yeah. [2:39:37, 2:39:57]: Go right ahead, ma'am. Go ahead. Um one of the things I would um like to point out um was that the um individual, uh Mr. Uh Jones, who was talking about um the uh Clark Meadows community and the surrounding area, um again, we are um uh obliged to governor. [2:39:57, 2:40:17]: ourselves in accordance with the Stock Bridge land use comprehensive plan, in addition to the Stock Bridge Zoning Ordinance. And when we look at the Stock Bridge Zoning Ordinance and the Land Development Plan, we are squarely in line with the development that has already occurred in this area. [2:40:17, 2:40:37]: For the city of Stockbridge. Provides for different requirements with regards to square footage. For example, in the county, the square footage for R3 is 18,000 square foot, whereas in the city, the minimum [2:40:37, 2:40:57]: lot size is 12,000 square feet for R3. And so we are exceeding, we are quite honestly, in my opinion, really in the middle because we've got uh 12,000 square foot lots, but our average lot size is over 14,000 square foot lots, and we have lots that go as high as [2:40:57, 2:41:17]: Is 22,000 square feet. So we are trying to provide a range of lots. And we believe that if you look at the Clark Meadows community, which again was zoned PD, it was zoned PD, but in terms of um how [2:41:17, 2:41:37]: How they made that distinction, and I'm showing you the plat, final plat information from there. They note that while they rezoned it to PD, which was allowed, the specs kind of that they use for it was around R2 and R3. And so that's where that distinction. [2:41:37, 2:41:57]: Distinction comes. It's not that somebody flipped the script and did something different. They were simply showing how they calculated for that plan development, which used both the R2 and the R3 requirements at that time. And um when we look at those R three requirements. [2:41:56, 2:42:14]: You can see here that the minimum lot size for R2 was 15, or at least how they put it on here was 15,750. And for R3, for whatever reason, they've got 7,472.74. I'm not sure if that was truly the minimum back in 2012. [2:42:14, 2:42:34]: five or six when this was done. Um but clearly the minimum lot size now is 12,000 square feet. And so we are in line with that. And with regards to the R2, the minimum size um that well the minimum size now was actually 30,000 square feet. But that was not what it was apparently. [2:42:34, 2:42:54]: Back when this project was developed. But at that time, we also know that they were bringing sewer into this area. So those larger lots were sewer lots. I mean, sorry, were septic tank lots, and we have a sewer lot. And that is why we don't need the 30,000 square foot lot size. [2:42:54, 2:42:55]: Yeah. [2:42:55, 2:43:03]: So tell me again, how the size of the actual home that you're gonna build, the minimum size and the largest home. [2:43:05, 2:43:25]: The largest home may it exceed 3,000 square feet. I mean, it depends on what the homeowner wants because we will have different floor um layouts that will allow them to increase based on what their spending power is. Understand that any builder wants you to buy the most expensive, biggest house that you can buy. [2:43:25, 2:43:45]: built so in this case what we were suggesting was a average lot size of 2500 square feet which means we're going to have homes that are going to be bigger homes that be smaller but if it comes down to it and you want a 2500 square foot minimum I think that my client is willing to go along with that 2500 square foot minimum. [2:43:45, 2:44:03]: But understand what we were saying is that we would have a range, but it's always in the best interest of the builder to build the biggest house that they can build for that client that wants to buy it. I mean, they're not here to try and squeeze you in a small house when you run a big house. They want you to spend all your money on as much house as you can get. [2:44:04, 2:44:04]: Thank you. [2:44:06, 2:44:13]: Council, any other questions at all before we uh look at the yeah, Miss Councilwoman Gantt go ahead, please. Thank you. I have a couple more. [2:44:14, 2:44:15]: Um and [2:44:16, 2:44:18]: I actually have a suggestion. Uh [2:44:19, 2:44:19]: Um [2:44:21, 2:44:26]: Is there anyone on planning and zoning board that's here tonight? [2:44:27, 2:44:45]: We don't have any planning and zoning members that are present in this meeting tonight. No, I don't think they're pre I don't I don't recall the scene anybody's uh from the planning zoning board. No. I'm just curious as to why they unanimously voted no, but I also [2:44:45, 2:44:45]: Um [2:44:47, 2:44:52]: would like in the future that we have at least the chair here when we're listening to these type of [2:44:53, 2:44:55]: Hearing so that we can get [2:44:55, 2:44:57]: To take from the planning and zoning board. [2:44:57, 2:44:59]: All at once, not [2:44:59, 2:45:03]: one on one but with everyone present so we can have them here so we can hear from them. [2:45:04, 2:45:04]: Um [2:45:05, 2:45:07]: Personally. And then [2:45:09, 2:45:11]: I wrote I took a note here. [2:45:13, 2:45:20]: That one of the arguments that I heard from the citizens was that the other communities are zoned. [2:45:20, 2:45:25]: R one and R2 that are surrounding this subdivision. [2:45:26, 2:45:27]: Yeah. [2:45:27, 2:45:32]: I wanted to ask m probably this is probably for Linda. [2:45:33, 2:45:35]: Ведена да із кейс. [2:45:35, 2:45:39]: Um I I do understand that some of those are in Henry County. [2:45:40, 2:45:51]: Um, but I wanted to make sure I wanted to see whether or not that was the case. I do know that the the neighborhood directly across Clark Meadows is R2 and R three, as you mentioned earlier. [2:45:52, 2:45:53]: I would like to [2:45:53, 2:45:56]: No, if that's the case with the surrounding neighborhoods. [2:45:57, 2:46:00]: directly neighboring this subdivision. [2:46:01, 2:46:03]: And um [2:46:03, 2:46:07]: I also would like to suggest that maybe we consider our two. [2:46:08, 2:46:08]: Um [2:46:09, 2:46:13]: based off of some of the conditions that we're requiring as of now. [2:46:14, 2:46:15]: Um [2:46:15, 2:46:18]: And based off of the numbers and and what I'm saying. [2:46:18, 2:46:21]: With the description of the homes, we got forty one. [2:46:21, 2:46:23]: Between twelve thousand [2:46:24, 2:46:26]: Yeah, forty one hundred to twelve thousand square feet now. [2:46:27, 2:46:30]: You're talking to someone who comes from a neighborhood. [2:46:31, 2:46:32]: Of eleven hundred [2:46:33, 2:46:52]: Homes, is that not right, Mayor? No, almost not. Just under 900, I'm sorry. Okay, I'm sorry. We're we're we're in a um I live in a neighborhood of 900 homes and a and our roads aren't as small, as large as the road or wide as Brennan Road is at all. Um, and that's one subdivision. [2:46:52, 2:46:55]: Um we have several on our street. [2:46:56, 2:47:00]: I'm all for smart growth. I'm all for making sure. [2:47:01, 2:47:16]: that we do the right thing. Um I appreciate the developers working with us, willing to change with us. They've made every change that we've asked for so far in regards to the conditions being met. [2:47:17, 2:47:23]: Um, Clark Meadows has the majority of their homes at R two. I would like to see R two. [2:47:24, 2:47:27]: Um more of the R two residential look. [2:47:27, 2:47:35]: I do want the community to know that I'm an advocate for as a divorcee and as a single mother. [2:47:36, 2:47:37]: Um a single parent. [2:47:38, 2:47:46]: I'm an advocate for affordable housing, quality affordable housing for all. If we don't, we'll miss those. [2:47:47, 2:47:54]: Teachers will miss those law enforcement officers, um, each subdivision, even Eagles Landing. [2:47:54, 2:47:56]: Country Club has an enclave. [2:47:57, 2:48:05]: So we need to take that into consideration every time we look into developments. And just because we don't have a development agreement in place. [2:48:06, 2:48:09]: We need to consider we still that doesn't mean we can't mimic it. [2:48:11, 2:48:16]: So let's be smart about it. Um, I hear our citizens loud and clear. [2:48:16, 2:48:25]: Um you know, we are a growing county. I appreciate the fact that you do accept the fact that we are growing county. We are not rural. [2:48:26, 2:48:43]: But we do want to make sure that and we can't please everyone, but we want to make sense. And so I need to know if that surrounding area, I'm gonna go back to that question, whether or not a surrounding area, those are those neighborhoods are zoned R1, R2, R3. What are the majority of those neighborhoods on? [2:48:45, 2:49:05]: Um yes, my information from the count county is that uh yes, uh some of those areas are zone R A and R one and R two. Um uh would like to point out though that part of the reason that uh I believe that this um developer asked for R3 is because the presence of the floodplain. [2:49:05, 2:49:20]: plane in the in the middle of the property and in a big part of the properties floodplain unbuildable areas and so therefore needed to uh request R three in order to um that in order to that that is not true. [2:49:20, 2:49:21]: Okay. [2:49:21, 2:49:41]: We we don't have floodplain throughout um this project. There's some floodplain on uh the um exterior, near the exterior lines. We asked for R three again because under your R two regulations, you're required to have a 30,000 square foot lot, which is intended primarily in our opinion. [2:49:41, 2:50:01]: For lots that are on septic. And if you look again at Clark Meadows, I think there was a misunderstanding. The top portion here is are the R2 lots. There are a total of 15 of those at 15,000 square feet, which is actually larger than what is required under the R2. [2:50:01, 2:50:21]: R3 requirement now. And then under R3, they were showing all of these lots, which are at roughly 7,500 square feet. And that's throughout the mass majority. There are over a hundred um lots, a hundred and I think it's 130, 120-something lots. [2:50:21, 2:50:41]: Within the Clark Meadows community, all of which are at this R3 standard that they placed for that. And so from our perspective, we are consistent with the R three that is in the Clark Meadows community. We are consistent with [2:50:41, 2:51:01]: the uh the lot size um for uh clark meadows um with regards to um uh moss point yes they do have um larger lots that is an older community um we are trying to make sure that we have lots that are uh marketable um we are [2:51:01, 2:51:21]: not in unincorporated Henry County. I certainly appreciate that their lots are at RA, but they are not within the city limits. We don't know what those lots ultimately will be rezoned to and the city of Stockbridge will not uh have the final say with regards to what those lots [2:51:21, 2:51:41]: May ultimately be. But there's no question that you all have the ultimate decision on what these lots will be. And we believe that we are consistent with what's already in the city. And at um, you know, it's almost as if one is saying that there's something wrong with Clark Meadows. Clark Meadows is a [2:51:41, 2:52:01]: beautiful community. And what um our conversations with those um at least on the board of uh directors for them was that you know they wanted something that was better um than what they have um by lot size um the the um building width um is [2:52:00, 2:52:20]: actually and there was a variance obtained back when the Clark Meadows community was developed that allowed for only a 10 foot distance between the houses. We have 20 feet of distance between our homes and their minimum lot size is 7,500 square feet. And [2:52:20, 2:52:40]: And our minimum lot size is 12,000 square feet. So we are bigger than what you already have approved in this city on the other side of the street. In terms of that being the most recent community developed, our density is lower than them, and our density is lower than Moss Point. [2:52:40, 2:53:00]: So we are squarely in line with what is in the city and what's in the city's purview, in the city's limits, and within the city's voting power. The RA that surrounds will not remain RA. It will not remain RA forever. It's too much land and there's too much development coming into this area. [2:53:00, 2:53:20]: And the Board of Commissioners for Henry County will make a decision about how they want to rezone that and whether or not they want to allow for added density, because I don't see any developer coming in at RA, which is an agricultural zoning, to come in and develop under the current zoning regulations. [2:53:22, 2:53:27]: Okay. Thank you for that. Councilman uh Gantt it was still on you. You have any further questions? [2:53:29, 2:53:30]: No, um [2:53:32, 2:53:39]: I was like, no, your honor. No, I don't have any other questions. I don't um at this time, no. I I just I don't. [2:53:40, 2:53:45]: Okay. All right. Anybody else? Any questions, concerns? [2:53:46, 2:53:50]: And if not, okay, I'm sorry, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:53:52, 2:53:54]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [2:53:55, 2:54:01]: Is Mr. Berry and Mr. Washington still on with us? Yeah, I'm going to get [2:54:01, 2:54:02]: They're online. [2:54:04, 2:54:05]: Go ahead. [2:54:05, 2:54:06]: Yeah. Yes, we have. [2:54:07, 2:54:08]: Hi. Okay. Um [2:54:09, 2:54:20]: I have a question in regards to the legal aspect of this. Um, I'm new at this and this would be the first development that I am. [2:54:20, 2:54:21]: Reviewing. [2:54:21, 2:54:22]: Um [2:54:22, 2:54:26]: and ultimately will decide whether to approve or oppose this. [2:54:27, 2:54:35]: Can you give me um what the legal language is pertaining to um the approval or [2:54:35, 2:54:38]: Rejection of a development. [2:54:38, 2:54:39]: I'd heard, you know. [2:54:40, 2:54:41]: People say that we can't [2:54:41, 2:54:43]: deny this development. [2:54:43, 2:54:44]: Due to [2:54:44, 2:54:48]: Overcrowding of classrooms. I've heard we can't deny this. [2:54:48, 2:54:49]: Um [2:54:49, 2:54:50]: Based on traffic. [2:54:51, 2:54:52]: Infrastructure. [2:54:53, 2:54:55]: Can you give me a little bit of legal? [2:54:55, 2:54:57]: um counsel as to how I should [2:54:58, 2:54:59]: Do this. [2:55:01, 2:55:02]: Well [2:55:04, 2:55:07]: That's not a easy question to be able to answer. [2:55:07, 2:55:09]: Because part of what we've got to do [2:55:10, 2:55:10]: Is [2:55:11, 2:55:30]: The zoning codes that you all have in place do allow for feedback and for you all to make a decision. But whether or not those zoning codes that you would use if you would deny could come in conflict with state law, which would mean they would be able to appeal and possibly get the zoning ordinance possibly overturned. [2:55:31, 2:55:32]: And so that's why it's not a [2:55:33, 2:55:35]: A clear answer like that unless it's something [2:55:35, 2:55:38]: It has to be very specific for what the denial purpose would be. [2:55:39, 2:55:41]: And I'll ask Mr. Berry with his thoughts on. [2:55:44, 2:55:48]: Yeah, I mean I I I think that's generally correct. I I think it's a broader [2:55:48, 2:55:50]: You know, sort of it's a it's the police power. [2:55:51, 2:55:52]: So you have to figure out if this [2:55:53, 2:55:54]: Yep, the [2:55:55, 2:56:00]: still would comply with the public health, safety, welfare of the the residents of the city of Stockbridge. [2:56:01, 2:56:10]: I mean i if you're looking for sort of any specific criteria, I don't know, you know, that there's a factor or a list of one through ten or any criteria, anything like that to be considered. [2:56:11, 2:56:15]: Um, and right, this is a a rezoning as well. [2:56:19, 2:56:21]: All right, thank you. Ms. Barber, anything else? [2:56:21, 2:56:29]: Yes, okay. So I understand that there will be some who won't agree to this development, no matter what adjustments are made. [2:56:29, 2:56:34]: The fact is this land will not remain undeveloped forever. [2:56:34, 2:56:38]: Um the owner has the right to to develop the property. [2:56:38, 2:56:42]: In accordance with our standards and state laws. [2:56:42, 2:56:54]: Um, I appreciate the developer for hearing the concerns of the community members and making a good faith effort to bring about a quality development that will be consistent. [2:56:54, 2:56:56]: with all the other developments in the area. [2:56:57, 2:56:57]: Um [2:56:59, 2:57:02]: I don't believe a couple of questions were answered. [2:57:03, 2:57:07]: When uh pertaining to the um distance. [2:57:07, 2:57:08]: Um [2:57:09, 2:57:16]: The width gutter to gutter in the streets. Um, is that gentleman still on the line with us? [2:57:17, 2:57:17]: Yes, ma'am. [2:57:18, 2:57:20]: Can you tell me what the distance is from [2:57:20, 2:57:26]: Gutter to gutter. It's twenty six feet from the back of the curb to the back of the curb. [2:57:26, 2:57:28]: So the curve is two feet wide on each side. [2:57:30, 2:57:34]: And so the but the total distance across is is uh is twenty six feet. [2:57:34, 2:57:38]: And that's a Henry County standard, like I said, that's been used for the last [2:57:39, 2:57:43]: twenty five years, at least as long as I've been practicing in Henry County, it's that's been the standard. [2:57:44, 2:57:45]: Okay. [2:57:45, 2:57:46]: Um [2:57:46, 2:57:51]: My next question was the sidewalks on both sides of the street. [2:57:51, 2:57:52]: Um is [2:57:53, 2:57:56]: Is now the time for us to talk about those um [2:57:57, 2:57:59]: Additional conditions. [2:57:59, 2:58:00]: Um [2:58:00, 2:58:08]: Or is it another time that we'll talk about it? Because I mentioned I'd like to see sidewalks on both sides of the street. [2:58:09, 2:58:14]: We we can agree to the sidewalks on both sides of the street. [2:58:14, 2:58:16]: Um as a condition. [2:58:16, 2:58:22]: Awesome. Thank you. Um what about um you all already addressed the clubhouse? [2:58:24, 2:58:30]: Okay. Um so I've heard several times about the density of this development. [2:58:30, 2:58:34]: Is there a opportunity for you all to [2:58:34, 2:58:39]: decrease the density and increase the lot sizes. I know that um [2:58:41, 2:58:50]: What you provided us with the breakdown of the homes in the square footage. But I know when buyers come there, they're gonna. [2:58:50, 2:58:51]: Request. [2:58:51, 2:58:54]: whatever lot sizes they want. Um [2:58:55, 2:58:55]: You have [2:58:56, 2:58:58]: uh allocated forty one. [2:58:58, 2:59:02]: um lots with 12,000 square feet. [2:59:02, 2:59:07]: Suppose you have more people who want larger lots that come in. [2:59:07, 2:59:07]: Um [2:59:08, 2:59:13]: You're not just tied into just that forty-one lots of twelve. [2:59:14, 2:59:16]: Twelve thousand fi square feet are you? [2:59:16, 2:59:17]: Yes. [2:59:18, 2:59:38]: Yes, because we would have already put in the infrastructure and had our land development permit and final plat. Um so when um homeowners uh come in to view, um most of them are not looking at necessarily the lot size because our lot size is actually in comparison, if you look at other municipalities. [2:59:38, 2:59:58]: And other counties. I mean, the lot size that we are proposing is actually larger than most of the lot sizes. I can tell you, this is the only developer I've had that are doing 12,000 square foot lots or higher. Most of the lots that I'm looking at and developers looking at are in. [2:59:58, 3:00:18]: Anywhere between 5,500 square feet to 7,500 square feet, much closer to the lot size that you've got in Clark Meadows. So I will tell you now that we personally cannot drop lower in terms of the number of units that we have. We did drop the units initially from the 47 to the [3:00:18, 3:00:38]: the hundred and thirty nine um lots. And you know, based on the infrastructure costs, the home costs by doing the four-sided brick homes along with all the infrastructure costs that we have, we would be, you know, the fewer homes you have, definitely the higher the price point. [3:00:37, 3:00:57]: Point, number one, um, the less homes there are to share in all of the amenities that we're putting in. Because remember, there are going to be HOA dues that these homeowners have to share in order to maintain and upkeep all of the two uh amenity areas that we. [3:00:57, 3:01:17]: have which is actually larger than the other subdivisions around. For example, Clark Meadows only has one uh primary um amenity area we will have two um some of the places on uh some of the other subdivisions around here don't have as much amenity area in green space we also have walking trails within this [3:01:17, 3:01:37]: community as well. So when you lessen the number of units, you are increasing the burden on those residents who will be living in that community in terms of splitting up that cost once the developer is gone for those HOA responsibilities. So we are trying to keep the price point [3:01:37, 3:01:51]: Points between that 330 to 350 as an entry point. We believe that's a good entry point for new families coming in. It doesn't completely block out. [3:01:51, 3:02:11]: um uh firefighters and and and teachers and the like if they are quite honestly if they are married or have a partner that um can help um get to that um house size because at a hundred about three hundred and fifty thousand dollars you're you've got to be making uh a nice little chunk of change in order uh to be able to afford those [3:02:11, 3:02:31]: those homes in this market. So we we believe that the 139 units is is our bottom line number for the project. If if I'm incorrect, Neil, you can correct me on that point, but I believe that we've kind of hit our bottom for the number of units and the and the size that we are proposing. [3:02:31, 3:02:51]: Did kind of adjust that when we moved around and lost some of the lots, and then also added in this additional amenity area because we started out with basically one amenity area with uh the walking trail. And then we added in the swimming pool and the additional amenities because we understood that that was what [3:02:51, 3:02:58]: what the community wanted, that they wanted those additional amenities, but that comes at a price for the people who ultimately will live there. [3:02:59, 3:03:19]: Yeah, that's correct, Michelle. I mean, and we look you know, with everything that we've added to this development, the reduction of lots, the increase in amenities, um, we've committed to doing a a great entrance. We've hired a landscape architect, um, I think he's out of Alpharetta to design our amenities and [3:03:19, 3:03:39]: And the infrastructure costs that we're facing. I mean, this is not gonna be an inexpensive development by any means. These lots are gonna be in the upper 60s, 70s, maybe even 75,000 by the time we're done with them all. I was looking up some records the other day on Brandon Road. [3:03:39, 3:03:51]: These will be almost double the cost of what the the lots at Clark Meadows sold for. Um almost double the cost of the subdivision up the street at the time. So [3:03:52, 3:04:05]: You know, we're not cutting corners. Um, we are in this to make a profit, and that's why we're we're trying to invest in the city of Stockbridge. Um, and there's a there's a place where X equals Y, where we can only have [3:04:06, 3:04:11]: Um so many lots and then uh at the same time provide great amenities. [3:04:12, 3:04:28]: We've also provided uh 20 acres or so of green space, which we're setting aside for a community feel. And um then we've been asked, you know, to add add additional sidewalks, which is fine, then a clubhouse. And so the things that we're talking about here are [3:04:29, 3:04:49]: features that you find in large multi hundred lot subdivisions. And I know that you know you may not take my word for that, but that's that's what that's where when we develop, that's what we see. Um not in subdivisions that are 139 lots. And we are, you know, committed to do that because we've [3:04:49, 3:05:08]: We've heard the city of Stockbridge say they want quality, they want uh to attract uh certain features in these developments. And so we're quite frankly taking a big risk in what we've rolled out here, and um we need a certain number of lots to be able to afford um the features that we're talking about. [3:05:11, 3:05:12]: That's true. [3:05:13, 3:05:16]: Okay, Miss Uh Gantt, I believe you had a question still. [3:05:17, 3:05:21]: Yeah, I and I didn't address one thing. There was a citizen that mentioned [3:05:22, 3:05:37]: Um, that they wanted more amenities. They were against the project, but they wanted more restaurants, more activities here in our community. And I just wanted to let everyone know, just because it what it what it sounds like to me. [3:05:38, 3:05:42]: Uh is it's totally opposite. I want the citizens to know. [3:05:42, 3:06:01]: that rural areas are rule because without the stores and without the restaurants, because they have a small population, the higher our population, the more amenities, restaurants, activities, businesses we have. So it's actually totally opposite. [3:06:02, 3:06:05]: You'll hear that a lot. Um, the more we have [3:06:06, 3:06:09]: But let's say I hear all the time people want a trader Joe's, for instance. [3:06:09, 3:06:13]: Trader Joe's go only comes to highly populated areas. [3:06:14, 3:06:20]: They're not gonna go to a rural area and they're not gonna go to a a neighbor an area that only with neighborhoods of [3:06:20, 3:06:21]: A hundred [3:06:21, 3:06:31]: here and a hundred there, a hundred there, unless it's some highly condensed density place. Um I wanted to let people know that and I meant to say that earlier on. [3:06:31, 3:06:36]: Um but I really don't have a question in this regard. Um [3:06:36, 3:06:40]: I just kind of really hope that we mimic [3:06:40, 3:06:47]: The R three, R two call meadows. That's my biggest concern. R two, R three, very limited R three. [3:06:48, 3:06:48]: Um [3:06:49, 3:07:01]: And that's my only hope. I also want to mention there has been concerns. We had issues with a subdivision Pine View. I want to make sure from our attorneys as well as from Ms. Logan. [3:07:02, 3:07:05]: that we have everything completed. [3:07:05, 3:07:22]: That we, you know, there are street lights, there are lights for the stockwalks. There are whatever we need, all the conditions that we need to amend and change need to be changed. That's my biggest concern. And I don't know what the time frame of that is, if we can approve tonight or whether or not we can wait. [3:07:23, 3:07:25]: And come back in two weeks and approve it. [3:07:25, 3:07:28]: Um, but I I want those written out and spelled out. [3:07:29, 3:07:37]: We want to make sure that the project is complete and that developers don't walk away. And I'm sorry, developers, we don't we we've been burned before. That's all. [3:07:38, 3:07:39]: That's one again, if I may. [3:07:39, 3:07:41]: Where do you want us to get these conditions from? [3:07:44, 3:07:59]: Well, I think but that's what we talked about all along through during the conversation, these additional conditions that were being brought up and I believe the uh developer has agreed to them. I Okay, I have about the sidewalks and all that. I didn't know that it was another development that she wanted us to take in this. [3:08:00, 3:08:03]: No, no, there isn't another there isn't another uh [3:08:04, 3:08:10]: development. What we're saying is that the can the new conditions that we're adding in be met. [3:08:11, 3:08:13]: Including the amount. [3:08:13, 3:08:14]: A people that can [3:08:15, 3:08:18]: uh of capacity for the clubhouse in general. [3:08:18, 3:08:20]: But you know, there to me. [3:08:21, 3:08:22]: There needs to be something. [3:08:23, 3:08:28]: Right now we don't have any of those things in writing. We did get the proposal tonight. [3:08:28, 3:08:31]: We need to have a list of those conditions. [3:08:31, 3:08:33]: And then vote on those conditions. [3:08:34, 3:08:35]: That's a mob. [3:08:36, 3:08:40]: Okay, Miss Battle, we're fine with working with you to get those conditions. [3:08:41, 3:08:44]: And then those will be the ones that we attach to [3:08:44, 3:08:48]: The ordinance or the resolution that we file. [3:08:48, 3:08:53]: That that's fine. I'm I'm I'm fine with that. Um w when is your next meeting? [3:08:53, 3:08:54]: Let's [3:08:54, 3:09:01]: Hold on. Hold on. So so st stand by. Let her she asked a question. Okay. Miss Hollett. Ms. Hollett, when's our next meeting? [3:09:02, 3:09:08]: What it it's going to be our work session. The thirtieth work session. Thirtieth of the end of the month. [3:09:09, 3:09:11]: Mars thirtieth Miss Bell. [3:09:12, 3:09:13]: Thank you. [3:09:15, 3:09:23]: Mr. Candy, are you are you uh complete with all your questions and concerns right now? That's it. I just want to make sure we have everything taken care of, making sure that [3:09:24, 3:09:25]: All conditions are met. [3:09:25, 3:09:27]: All right, good deal. Miraport Tim. [3:09:28, 3:09:32]: Go ahead. See, this is where we're kinda out of practice. [3:09:32, 3:09:34]: on zoning cases because [3:09:34, 3:09:38]: If if you watch Henry County and you watch the commissioners do it. [3:09:38, 3:09:41]: The staff can simply take the notes right now. [3:09:42, 3:09:44]: As we list out what the conditions are. [3:09:44, 3:09:47]: And they can actually write them down, put them into the record. [3:09:47, 3:09:50]: And the attorney can create the document with them. [3:09:51, 3:09:51]: On there. [3:09:52, 3:09:54]: That's how it works. They do that all the time. [3:09:54, 3:09:57]: You don't have to come back. You can actually write them out right now. [3:09:58, 3:10:00]: All you got all we need to do is [3:10:00, 3:10:02]: You put those conditions. [3:10:02, 3:10:03]: In the motion. [3:10:03, 3:10:05]: And then when we put the conditions into motion. [3:10:06, 3:10:08]: Then the attorney jots them down. [3:10:08, 3:10:11]: And creates the document. Is that correct, sir? Mr Wash? [3:10:12, 3:10:18]: We can yes once you what we have to know what you approved to be to put it into the motion. Right, right. I I plan on putting that into the motion. [3:10:19, 3:10:25]: Okay. Yes, we have pre-drafted we have pre-drafted an an ordinance on this, which we did send to Madam Clerk. [3:10:25, 3:10:27]: And so we could amend that right now, yes. [3:10:27, 3:10:31]: Okay, in that case what I would like to do to make a motion for approval. [3:10:31, 3:10:34]: I would like to uh add certain conditions. [3:10:35, 3:10:36]: Uh the first condition [3:10:36, 3:10:40]: uh would be that we have sidewalks on both sides of the street. [3:10:43, 3:10:45]: А the second condition. [3:10:45, 3:10:48]: Would be the builder has already agreed that we have [3:10:48, 3:10:51]: A minimum house size of twenty five hundred square feet. [3:10:57, 3:10:59]: Uh the third condition would be [3:11:00, 3:11:06]: Uh the clubhouse that we would wish to see. And I'm gonna give on this a little bit. I heard from the citizens. [3:11:06, 3:11:08]: So instead of making it fifty. [3:11:08, 3:11:10]: That you would make it uh [3:11:10, 3:11:12]: A capacity of forty instead of fifty. [3:11:14, 3:11:32]: Councilman Alexander, Mayor Proteam Alexander, these are your conditions. This is not the mayor's council. You get the vote on it. You get the vote. Yeah, but don't you think we should do that and discuss it and have everything this this this is a vote. Well can I finish my motion, please? [3:11:33, 3:11:38]: Let hold on a second. Let him go finish his motion. Go ahead. Let me give my point of order for his mayor. [3:11:38, 3:11:40]: Okay, what's your point or Miss Blount? [3:11:40, 3:11:44]: My point of order is we as elected body. [3:11:45, 3:11:48]: We don't imprompt to sit up here and set standards. [3:11:49, 3:11:54]: Without this I've said it before, the without the elected body coming together as a whole. [3:11:55, 3:12:12]: We need to come together as a whole, not Mr. Alexander sitting here impromptu deciding what he wants for this project, and then sit here and we vote on this project when we have staff to give us in writing what we've already talked about, what adjustment needs to be made. [3:12:13, 3:12:19]: He's sitting here like he's making the sole decision what's going on. Not not excuse me, sir. [3:12:21, 3:12:28]: Sitting here saying what he's gonna adjust, what he's gonna do, these are what we do. See, we cannot negotiate. [3:12:28, 3:12:30]: Or operate this way. [3:12:32, 3:12:40]: That he's gonna prompt to make a motion to decide what he's gonna give the people and we can either vote for it or not. It doesn't work that way. [3:12:40, 3:12:55]: Well what it amounts to if he makes the motion, then you either it pr motion gets approved or not, there'll be further discussion on the issue. And then that those were those uh those issues and thoughts will come out. You've already made some comments and on that aspect as well. Um but anyway, so it um [3:12:56, 3:13:00]: And and when when he's finished with the motion, it's gotta get a second and we'll have further discussion and we'll go down that road. [3:13:01, 3:13:13]: The reason that I say that is that everybody has to vote on this. If you don't like it, don't vote for it. And then we could uh offer up another one. But in the end, this developer has bent over backwards for us. [3:13:14, 3:13:18]: Аз the folks who said it in the very beginning. [3:13:18, 3:13:22]: I've never seen I would like for us to return to the motion now. [3:13:22, 3:13:24]: All right. Comment section. [3:13:24, 3:13:33]: I'm doing exactly that. I'm making a motion. And that motion includes the the the explanation. You can do I you can't stop me from speaking on on that. [3:13:34, 3:13:39]: Uh finish out the motion, please. All the things you want to add for your corrections, uh please finish that. [3:13:39, 3:13:40]: Okay. [3:13:40, 3:13:41]: Oh [3:13:41, 3:13:44]: I would uh dictate that a rendering [3:13:44, 3:13:45]: That they pull. [3:13:46, 3:13:49]: Would be uh the rendering as display tonight. [3:13:50, 3:13:52]: uh in the community that we actually [3:13:52, 3:13:55]: Observe in the rendering that was showed to us tonight. [3:13:55, 3:13:58]: We want a pool very similar to that. [3:13:58, 3:13:59]: uh rendering. [3:14:00, 3:14:02]: That we actually saw. [3:14:02, 3:14:03]: Uh on tonight. [3:14:04, 3:14:11]: And in the end, we want to make sure uh Linda it the street lights are included in in in the zoning already, correct, Linda? [3:14:13, 3:14:19]: I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Uh street lights are already in the in the development agreement, street lights required. [3:14:20, 3:14:32]: I d we haven't d talked about streetlights. Uh if I may, that is that is in your ordinance. Street lights and underground utilities are already in the City of Stockbridge ordinance for your development. [3:14:33, 3:14:34]: Okay. Well that's what [3:14:34, 3:14:37]: Okay, so street lights are already required. [3:14:37, 3:14:39]: Uh so we do not have to uh [3:14:39, 3:14:41]: Make those particular ones happen. [3:14:42, 3:14:47]: Now if the in the end, if you don't want to mandate what how many people in the clubhouse [3:14:47, 3:14:50]: You don't have to mandate the number of people in the clubhouse. [3:14:50, 3:14:54]: But then again, we're trying to show these developers that we're business friendly. [3:14:54, 3:14:59]: The point where we just go ahead with the motion. Somebody has already made [3:15:00, 3:15:13]: the decision already in order to do what we need to do. So uh Mr. Washington, do you have uh written down the exact language for the changes that need to be made? [3:15:13, 3:15:14]: To get the community [3:15:15, 3:15:18]: uh that has been described tonight by the builder. [3:15:18, 3:15:20]: And by the community for the most part. [3:15:20, 3:15:23]: I have sidewalks on both sides of the street. [3:15:23, 3:15:25]: Minimum house size twenty five hundred square feet. [3:15:26, 3:15:28]: Clubhouse capacity of forty people. [3:15:28, 3:15:31]: pool rendering as displayed tonight are very similar. [3:15:31, 3:15:35]: Street lights and underground is already a part, the ordin is already a part of [3:15:36, 3:15:38]: The ordinances that we have. [3:15:38, 3:15:45]: And then I guess the other thing would be we we would if we're going to pass this, we would it would be advisable to get [3:15:45, 3:15:54]: a determination about the moratorium that we currently have in place about the rental about the rental. We want to make that's that's that's the next one. We want to make sure that there's a clause [3:15:55, 3:15:57]: Uh that indicates owner occupied. [3:15:58, 3:16:02]: versus rental. We wanna owner want owner occupied. [3:16:02, 3:16:03]: In this agreement. [3:16:09, 3:16:14]: Can can we state uh that it would be a fifteen percent rental cap? [3:16:16, 3:16:21]: Uh that's that yes, that's reasonable. In the end you could have some rentals in the community. [3:16:21, 3:16:24]: But in the end, uh what we want to do is we want it to be [3:16:24, 3:16:26]: a owner occupied community. So [3:16:26, 3:16:29]: There is some flexibility to have some real in there, so [3:16:29, 3:16:35]: Uh that that's that's not un that's not unreasonable to have I mean, have a cap. It'd be a fifteen percent cap. [3:16:36, 3:16:36]: Right. [3:16:38, 3:16:40]: Okay, so tha that's not unreasonable. [3:16:41, 3:16:41]: Okay. [3:16:42, 3:16:48]: So I just have the I just have those six is the ones you're proposing. With the six from being owner occupied with the fifteen percent rental panel. [3:16:50, 3:16:50]: Right. [3:16:51, 3:16:51]: Mm-hmm. [3:16:52, 3:17:03]: Now I have a question. Well, actually, uh the question, what whatever happened to the the 10 foot sidewalks on the front part of Brandon Road in front of the community? Was that already in the agreement or is that something that needs to be added? [3:17:04, 3:17:04]: Yeah. [3:17:04, 3:17:06]: It's already in the agreement. [3:17:07, 3:17:10]: Okay. All right. Is there a second to that motion? [3:17:13, 3:17:15]: I'm sorry, Ms. Holliday, go ahead, please. [3:17:15, 3:17:20]: I just wanna make sure there are there are conditions I believe that we're already [3:17:20, 3:17:36]: laid out correct Linda and I just want to make sure though these that you just stated um Mayor Pro Tem are in addition to the though the ones that I just stated are in addition to yes the ones that Linda recommended that staff recommended. That's correct. Thank you. Thank you. [3:17:39, 3:17:41]: It's yes uh yes Miss Grant. [3:17:42, 3:17:46]: Yeah, yeah. I I'm um I have some concerns. [3:17:47, 3:17:51]: I speak for Councilwoman Gantt. I can't speak for Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [3:17:52, 3:17:58]: I can't speak for Councilman Blount. I can't speak for Councilman Barber. I can't speak for Councilman Thomas. I speak for me. [3:17:59, 3:18:00]: So [3:18:00, 3:18:01]: I have a concern. [3:18:02, 3:18:04]: In regards to us [3:18:04, 3:18:06]: Taking this all down. [3:18:07, 3:18:10]: Making sure it's right. We just ask questions like [3:18:10, 3:18:15]: Is streetlights already a part of the conditions? [3:18:16, 3:18:17]: Ви ніч, мек шо. [3:18:18, 3:18:19]: I mean we spent [3:18:20, 3:18:21]: Two hours on this topic. [3:18:22, 3:18:24]: Or more, we need to make sure. [3:18:25, 3:18:26]: For our citizens. [3:18:29, 3:18:49]: For the developers, for everyone, for our attorneys, that we have every single thing we need in place, the conditions. I could roll out these now, but I think it would be best served for our attorneys to be able to think, write it out, listen to our our counsel, speak to the developer and his and their attorneys. [3:18:49, 3:18:58]: attorney is battle and then comeback in two weeks. I just what's we waited this long, two weeks is not going to kill us. [3:18:59, 3:19:05]: We're telling him what we're saying is we're open for business. We want this to work. We heard from our community. [3:19:06, 3:19:11]: We're trying to find a medium and somewhere in between, but we want to get it right. [3:19:12, 3:19:18]: Because we want to make sure that the amenities that said they're going to be built, built, we want to make sure that everything is done. [3:19:19, 3:19:29]: based off the conditions that we are requesting. Yes, we rolled off some just then, but we want to make sure even with the 15% rental cap. [3:19:30, 3:19:37]: You know, we need to take a look at all of that and make sure that we're asking for the the right proper things. [3:19:38, 3:19:39]: For the conditions to be met. [3:19:39, 3:19:41]: I don't see why two weeks would [3:19:42, 3:19:53]: would hinder that. I really don't. Um, I think we would be doing the city of Stockbridge a disservice, a disjustice if we rushed off. Everything doesn't have to be I don't want to move slow. [3:19:54, 3:19:58]: But I we we're getting all this at once. It's a lot of information. [3:19:59, 3:20:05]: We asked a lot of questions. We made a lot of amendments. We did not have anybody from planning and zoning board here. [3:20:05, 3:20:11]: Um chair and I'm not all I'm saying is let's put those conditions in writing. [3:20:12, 3:20:18]: And come back and vote to approve everything. I'm not against it. I'm not against this project. [3:20:20, 3:20:25]: I mean saying I'm I'm trying I want us to move forward, but I want us to do it in a smart way. [3:20:25, 3:20:28]: I don't want us to vote on something and say, oh, oh, I forgot. [3:20:31, 3:20:41]: And Mayor Ford, if I may, I know that one of the things that Mr. Knight had talked about was that we had to consider a zoning appeal, possibly at the retreat that we're going to have. [3:20:42, 3:20:43]: And so [3:20:43, 3:20:51]: I don't know whether he thinks that or whether you all think that this would be fitting since we're going to be considering a zoning thing to do this at that retreat if you will like. [3:20:53, 3:20:58]: That's a thought too Mr. Knight. That's a thought. Mr. Knighton, uh did you have any comments on that since you brought brought it up? [3:21:00, 3:21:11]: Yeah, I think I mean, obviously, I mean the council has to consider whether you're not you want to approve this tonight or to table it to another meeting. I'd probably feel more comfortable if you table it to another regularly scheduled meeting. [3:21:12, 3:21:15]: i.e. a work session if you were inclined to do that. [3:21:16, 3:21:16]: Um [3:21:17, 3:21:20]: You know, but again, that's that's your call to make. [3:21:20, 3:21:21]: Um, I think [3:21:22, 3:21:24]: A retreat setting would not be [3:21:24, 3:21:30]: the best setting for this type of zoning item and it needs to go to a regularly scheduled meeting of council. [3:21:30, 3:21:30]: Right. [3:21:31, 3:21:34]: Yeah, standby. Miss Battle. Yes, I know you have Miss Battle. Go ahead, please. [3:21:35, 3:21:55]: Um council members, I've been doing zonings for 20 years. And what I can tell you from my experience is that um council member Alexander um has accurately reflected how it is done in many um municipalities and counties, which is we've [3:21:54, 3:22:14]: Bring the zoning conditions to the floor that the planning department has brought. Any additional conditions can be added from the floor, added into the minutes and added as additional conditions. And we are comfortable with what Mr. Washington read out today. [3:22:14, 3:22:15]: Okay. [3:22:15, 3:22:35]: That being said, um we are not opposed to the idea of waiting. Of course, we would prefer not to. I'll just say that. I know my client is probably saying, What you talking about, Michelle? But we would prefer we would prefer not to have to wait, but I also understand [3:22:35, 3:22:55]: understand the desire to make sure that we have accurately reflected the conditions um that are being requested um by um the board and so you know we will do and we will acquiesce in what you all choose to do um this evening um we have been working hard [3:22:55, 3:23:15]: hard and and vigorously to try and get support and to address the issues that have been raised. I can say that the one place where we cannot compromise is on going to an R2 standard at 30,000 square foot lots. That simply will kill the deal for us. The R2 [3:23:15, 3:23:35]: R2 and R three that was referenced by uh the councilwoman. Um, I think you need to look at the plat for Clark Meadows so that you are accurately reflecting because Clark Meadows has R2 and R3, yes, but the R2 are 50. [3:23:35, 3:23:55]: 15,000 square foot lots, and it's only 15 of those. And the balance of the 142 lots are under the R3 standard at um seven, theirs was 7,500 square foot lots. And I know you're not asking us to go to a 7,500 square foot lot. So um [3:23:55, 3:24:15]: We believe that we are very consistent with what's already there. And if you all need two weeks, then that's fine. But I would agree with Mr. Knighton. I don't believe that you can do that at a um retreat work session. It has to be a regular called meeting with [3:24:15, 3:24:35]: but um in order for it to be uh sustainable because it is a um you don't have to have the public hearing but you are making a decision um and i would think that that would have to be at a regularly scheduled meeting but i will defer to mr knighton and mr washington and mr berry um in regards to that yeah regularly scheduled meeting you can send me your email i'll send you a draft on this [3:24:35, 3:24:35]: Yeah. [3:24:36, 3:24:40]: A regularly scheduled meeting like our council work session on the thirtieth, would it be appropriate? [3:24:41, 3:24:50]: Also, we need to um we would need to advertise if we're gonna have a public hearing. There's a 15-day notice. Um Madam Clerk reminded me, of course. [3:24:50, 3:24:53]: Fifteen day notice to be provided for [3:24:53, 3:25:01]: um a public hearing item as well. And so you'd need to calculate that into um into any consideration. [3:25:03, 3:25:04]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:25:04, 3:25:09]: Thank you, Mayor. Um I concur with the uh in two weeks. [3:25:10, 3:25:15]: One of the things I'm I'm gonna always recognize is that we've hired staff. We have a city manager. [3:25:15, 3:25:19]: On here, we have our attorneys on here. We have a clerk that are taking minutes. [3:25:20, 3:25:24]: And everybody on this everybody in this meeting have heard the conditions and I've heard the [3:25:25, 3:25:27]: Uh uh what we want and what we need to do. [3:25:28, 3:25:31]: And I think in two weeks that'll be in paper in writing in front of us. [3:25:32, 3:25:37]: I would not let one single I would not make a decision from one single council member. [3:25:37, 3:25:45]: Dictating what we do. It's a collective effort that everyone on this on this call was elected by the citizens of Stockbridge. [3:25:45, 3:25:47]: And I think that everyone on this call [3:25:48, 3:25:49]: Has the right. [3:25:50, 3:25:51]: Has the right. [3:25:51, 3:25:57]: To allow those that we hire to do what they do. And so I'm willing to wait the two weeks. I I [3:25:58, 3:26:00]: Did a I'm s I'm hearing some [3:26:00, 3:26:09]: good stuff about this development. Uh and I just want it to be right and not be rushing to make a decision on this tonight. [3:26:12, 3:26:14]: Okay. Mayor Tim, go ahead, please. [3:26:14, 3:26:18]: Uh l let me let me collect something f correct something for the record, okay? [3:26:18, 3:26:21]: I'm not making anything up. [3:26:21, 3:26:25]: We've been listening to the community for the last [3:26:26, 3:26:29]: F four or five months long before [3:26:29, 3:26:32]: It got to us. This is not quick. [3:26:32, 3:26:37]: This has been out there a long time. They came back to the zoning uh advisory board. [3:26:38, 3:26:39]: Two or three times. [3:26:39, 3:26:42]: Cancelled meeting after cancelled meeting. [3:26:42, 3:26:45]: Who wants to do that? Nobody wants to do that. [3:26:45, 3:26:49]: We're telling people we're not want to be business friendly. This is not rushed. [3:26:50, 3:26:52]: They've been trying to get disapproved for months. [3:26:53, 3:26:54]: I mean months. [3:26:54, 3:27:00]: So why is it it's not rushed? The co the the community asked for larger homes. [3:27:00, 3:27:16]: 2500 square feet. That's what they they asked for larger homes. That is what folks were putting out there. They wanted larger homes. We're increasing the lot size by we we asked they asked for larger lots. We got that. [3:27:16, 3:27:26]: Right. They asked for larger homes. The minimum was 2,000. Now it's 2500. They got there. They wanted sidewalks. We got the sidewalks. Right. [3:27:27, 3:27:29]: We understand that there was a concern. [3:27:30, 3:27:32]: about parking in the street. [3:27:32, 3:27:43]: We need a clubhouse. Mayor, I listened to you just say what size clubhouse Monarch Village had. My community has a clubhouse that has about 40 people in it. [3:27:43, 3:27:53]: So this could di with the situation that we have, as they said, you can park three deep and then you can park two in the garage. So you got eight people parking. [3:27:53, 3:28:06]: in the street, the street being uh what it is, we ought to make sure that these people when they have a party or they have some type of function, that they don't try that don't they're not forced to have the party at their house. [3:28:07, 3:28:12]: parking in the street where thirty cars or twenty cars gotta park in the street. [3:28:12, 3:28:30]: This is practical sense because we don't have any enforcement on parking at this point. I didn't make these things up. I've been listening to the community. I've been listening to the developer. If you you if you've been paying attention for the past five months. [3:28:30, 3:28:50]: Where we started getting emails, where we started getting requests over and over and over again, all of these things that they said they wanted. I think the people that came on the call, that called us and emailed us and got involved, because what they did, what did they do? They helped us get a better developer. [3:28:50, 3:28:51]: [12531.8, 12534.9]: This is much better than the first plan that was put out there. [3:28:55, 3:29:01]: and the insinuation that i'm making stuff up that this the that that the community didn't want [3:29:01, 3:29:09]: All you need to do is go back through your city email. You will see every last one of these items were asked for by the community. [3:29:10, 3:29:12]: And as stated earlier. [3:29:12, 3:29:31]: Some we just need to watch the Henry County Commissioners or any other city operate. This is how they operate. They want it fresh, top of mind on the items that they want. On the items that they want, they list them. The staff takes the notes, write the information out, the attorney records it. [3:29:32, 3:29:33]: And the uh [3:29:33, 3:29:36]: developer is locked into what we have here. [3:29:36, 3:29:40]: So the insinuation that I'm making this up, no, I met with the public. [3:29:41, 3:29:45]: I've talked with the public on the phone. I've exchanged emails with the public. [3:29:45, 3:29:52]: I've talked to the builder, talked to him on the phone, had Zoom meeting with them, trying to put together something. [3:29:53, 3:29:57]: And all of this information was shared. I shared it with the council. [3:29:57, 3:30:08]: I didn't share it with Mr. Blount because I didn't think he would ever vote for it anyway, because he never votes for anything that we vote for. Okay. Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [3:30:09, 3:30:10]: Thank you, Mayor. [3:30:11, 3:30:13]: A and you all know [3:30:13, 3:30:16]: From when we go into the gutter into the weeds like this. [3:30:17, 3:30:19]: Th this is where this council loses me. [3:30:20, 3:30:20]: Um [3:30:21, 3:30:23]: And and I I I really just don't like [3:30:24, 3:30:26]: what I'm hearing. I I I understand it. [3:30:27, 3:30:28]: But listen, listen. [3:30:30, 3:30:36]: I think there are a number of council members that will approve this project. [3:30:37, 3:30:41]: I think we have to learn to get away from our personal [3:30:41, 3:30:44]: feelings about [3:30:45, 3:30:51]: Who's saying what? Who's doing this? Who's doing that? And let's just state uh uh to the bin. [3:30:51, 3:30:56]: That's why I'm silent because I I do have opinions. I could say a lot. [3:30:57, 3:31:01]: But I'm grown enough to to just to hold my tongue. [3:31:01, 3:31:02]: Listen. [3:31:03, 3:31:04]: I think [3:31:05, 3:31:08]: That the things have been put on the table. [3:31:08, 3:31:12]: The amenity, the the the modification, the changes. [3:31:13, 3:31:15]: I I'm in agreement with those things. [3:31:16, 3:31:34]: So I don't have a problem in two weeks because even in two weeks, I do believe that the consensus of this council will approve or not approve that that's not an issue with me. I think I think the minds are made up, but it is important. [3:31:36, 3:31:39]: That this document includes [3:31:40, 3:31:42]: All of the modifications. [3:31:42, 3:31:46]: all of the modification because once we vote on a document [3:31:48, 3:31:55]: What's inside of that document? That's what you voted on. If you by some reason leave something out, then [3:31:56, 3:32:07]: Legally and technically, you can't come back and and put that in unless the developer agrees to do that. So I don't have a problem in waiting. [3:32:08, 3:32:12]: You know, I I'm just saying it you know, this kind of discussion has just really disturbed me. [3:32:12, 3:32:32]: I think we've had a great meeting. I appreciate the citizens that came in that spoke in favor and against. I think that as well. I think the council members, all of our comments have been on point tonight. But now here at the very end, you know, we started getting in the bushes. Now I will say this: it is clear. [3:32:32, 3:32:33]: Correct. [3:32:34, 3:32:37]: When anyone is making a motion [3:32:38, 3:32:39]: It is correct. [3:32:40, 3:32:51]: To include those kind of things that were being made into the motion, and it is nothing wrong with another council person saying, okay, include this in your motion. [3:32:51, 3:32:57]: So I'm just saying both sides here are right, but what I'm hearing is personal. [3:32:58, 3:33:09]: you know, issues with with each other and I get it's just no place for that. Um again, I don't have a problem in waiting two weeks because I think that the consensus of this council [3:33:09, 3:33:11]: is going to just make the decision. [3:33:12, 3:33:13]: It is important. [3:33:13, 3:33:15]: That for these citizens. [3:33:16, 3:33:19]: That all of the modifications and the changes [3:33:19, 3:33:22]: are included in this document. [3:33:22, 3:33:24]: And then and this is the document. [3:33:24, 3:33:26]: That we should vote on. [3:33:26, 3:33:27]: So [3:33:27, 3:33:32]: You know, I I don't have a problem in waiting. I just have a problem with this kind of [3:33:33, 3:33:36]: back and forth that we do when it's just really not necessary. So [3:33:37, 3:33:40]: I I just had to get my two point my two points in, but [3:33:43, 3:33:53]: Okay, I give it back, maybe. I just all right, thank you. And yeah, uh Mayor Pro Tem, you had a motion on the floor and it it never was seconded, so I don't know if you want to amend it a little bit or not. Uh but um [3:33:54, 3:33:55]: Uh we need to go forward. [3:33:56, 3:33:57]: Mayor I like to make a motion. [3:33:58, 3:34:12]: Well the motion is still on the floor. It hasn't been seconded though. It hasn't been seconded. So uh based on what um Ms. uh mayor uh what councilman Thomas said, uh we'll revisit it uh in two weeks. [3:34:13, 3:34:21]: Okay, so do okay. Let's let's um let's make sure we got this motion set and straight and see if there's a second. Ms. Holiday. [3:34:22, 3:34:28]: You had your hand. I was just wanna make sure that um Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, you are rescinding your motion and asking for a motion. [3:34:29, 3:34:29]: to table. [3:34:30, 3:34:34]: I'm asking for this to be continued in two weeks. [3:34:36, 3:34:40]: Repeat that sir. I'm asking for it to be continued into continued. Okay. [3:34:42, 3:34:53]: This discussion to be continued in two weeks, easy. Yeah, the the and just item clarification, if I may, Mayor. Go right ahead, sir. Matter of clarification, the way the calendar falls. [3:34:54, 3:35:00]: It'll be three weeks from now, just over three weeks from now on March thirtieth for the council work session. [3:35:01, 3:35:11]: It's a council work session then. All right now, uh, but it's not you said it's not a public hearing now, right? It's not so we don't have to advertise for a public hearing. [3:35:11, 3:35:12]: A yes up. [3:35:13, 3:35:15]: I just want to make sure us we got this right. [3:35:16, 3:35:19]: Mr. Washington or Ms. Berry. [3:35:21, 3:35:27]: My understanding is that and correct meat or wrong, my understanding is it would be negative it we it would need to be noticed as a public [3:35:27, 3:35:29]: Okay. You still have to be most of the public hearing. [3:35:30, 3:35:31]: Okay. [3:35:32, 3:35:33]: Okay, doesn't miss Bell. [3:35:35, 3:35:55]: Are there gonna be public comments at this? That's that's up to you all if you want to do it for two weeks or three weeks for decision only. Um you can do that to my knowledge, but I'll defer back to Randy um and and you, but uh under the zoning ordinance, you don't have to have another public hearing because you've just had the public hearing. [3:35:55, 3:36:00]: you're deferring your vote. So you can do that. Right, we're deferring that we can do that. Right. Right. [3:36:01, 3:36:20]: All right. So def my councilman Thomas, you had your hand up. I don't know if it just saw the what you asked. Okay. Um, so I don't think there's a need for an additional hearing. Okay. All right. I think it's I think we're just coming back just to get the language, the modifications. [3:36:20, 3:36:24]: uh to be included. Now that's just my interpretation. Okay. [3:36:25, 3:36:29]: All right. I think okay. So so the motion is to [3:36:30, 3:36:36]: come back at a work session uh to finalize everything and to vote on this issue. [3:36:36, 3:36:43]: Is that is that is that correct? Something along those lines? How does Oh but but the thing is if if if you're voting as a council, that's a public meeting. [3:36:45, 3:36:50]: We have to vote as a council, sir. Right. No, no, that's what I'm saying. So that's why I was talking about the public part of it. [3:36:50, 3:36:53]: It's a public meeting but not a public hearing. [3:36:53, 3:36:58]: Right. It will it will be included on the March 30th agenda. Okay. [3:36:59, 3:36:59]: All right. [3:36:59, 3:37:07]: Excuse me, does this mean that uh we have to uh signs uh on the property have to put a new date on the signs? [3:37:08, 3:37:08]: No. [3:37:09, 3:37:17]: Linda, we'll we'll discuss that with our attorneys. I think we'll be fine in that regard because the public hearing, if the council desired, the public hearing was held tonight. [3:37:18, 3:37:20]: Right. So then the decision [3:37:20, 3:37:23]: is being deferred until March thirtieth. [3:37:24, 3:37:24]: Mm-hmm. [3:37:25, 3:37:25]: That's [3:37:26, 3:37:28]: I think that's correct. [3:37:28, 3:37:28]: Okay. [3:37:31, 3:37:34]: All right. So just get a proper motion in a second and vote on this. [3:37:35, 3:37:39]: So I need a proper motion to make sure we all understand we're on the same sheet of music. [3:37:39, 3:37:46]: Yeah, we wanna uh the motion is we want to revisit this item as a decision only uh at our work session. [3:37:47, 3:37:50]: Which is the thirtieth of of of uh I second that. [3:37:51, 3:37:57]: Um I think we'll stand by. Miss Barber, did you have your hand up for a second to that? Or did you just have your hand up for a comment? [3:37:58, 3:37:58]: Which one was it? [3:38:00, 3:38:07]: Seconding the motion. Okay, I'm sorry, Ms. Gannon. I saw her hand first. Okay. That's my okay, good. There pro ten-minute motion seconded by Councilman Barber. [3:38:08, 3:38:09]: Hold on. [3:38:09, 3:38:10]: Yes, sir. [3:38:10, 3:38:16]: In discussion phase, we we probably need to include with the completed document of all the adjustments. [3:38:16, 3:38:19]: to uh to bring with your document. [3:38:20, 3:38:23]: Uh, with all the adjustments to what we uh just discussed. [3:38:24, 3:38:28]: Not just and vote, but with the documents to whatever we just [3:38:28, 3:38:37]: I think that the the intent would be to bring all of those conditions that were discussed tonight and provide that to the council well ahead of the meeting. [3:38:38, 3:38:43]: So that you will have those parameters as you enter into that uh meeting on the thirtieth. [3:38:46, 3:38:49]: Thank you. All right. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:38:51, 3:38:54]: Okay, so NAMS decision. Fantastic. All right. [3:38:55, 3:39:15]: And citizens, if there are any citizens that are out there in reference to the public hearing, uh you're more than welcome to stay since you're online. You don't have to. And if you heard the uh heard the message that we will uh make a final decision on this on the thirtieth of uh March at a uh council work session, uh which you can uh easily [3:39:15, 3:39:35]: Listen in on. It's a public meeting. On that note, we'll move on to the new business, and that is council consideration to approve the Main Street Program Mural Project presented by Ms. Braggs, the Main Street Program Manager. And it has here Ms. Potts, the Main Street Advisory Board Chair, and Ms. [3:39:35, 3:39:40]: Mr. Christian, Christian, I guess mural artist or mural artist. [3:39:41, 3:39:42]: Here, it's on you. [3:39:43, 3:39:54]: Hello. Um good afternoon, or I guess good evening now. Um I'm glad to be here with um our Main Street Advisory Board Chair, Miss Anika Potts. [3:39:54, 3:39:57]: And um I'm hoping that we were [3:39:58, 3:40:08]: able to hang on to our artist John. Yes, he's here, John Christian as well, the mural artist that we will be working with on this particular project. Ms. Potts, if you will. [3:40:10, 3:40:11]: Alrighty. [3:40:12, 3:40:24]: Uh good evening, Mayor Ford, uh City Council members, and fellow Stockbridge citizens and guests. Um I'm Anika Potts. I'm the chairperson for the Stockbridge Main Street Advisory Board. [3:40:24, 3:40:32]: Uh, the Main Street program's mission is to design and support an identifiable downtown historic district. [3:40:33, 3:40:35]: That promotes economic vitality. [3:40:35, 3:40:37]: That cultivates artistic expression. [3:40:38, 3:40:42]: encourages cultural enrichment and nurtures community spirit. [3:40:43, 3:41:02]: During the Main Street Program Advisory Board's 2019 strategic planning session, members decided that initiating a downtown public arts agenda would be a major step towards realizing our vision for a vibrant downtown. [3:41:03, 3:41:14]: With the new Stockbridge Ampu Theater and the proposed Cultural Arts Center, we believe Main Street is definitely in alignment with the city's goals here. [3:41:15, 3:41:22]: The proposed mirror project that we are here to discuss tonight will be one. [3:41:23, 3:41:30]: Of our first steps towards making Stockbridge outstanding with the downtown district. [3:41:31, 3:41:35]: And it'll happen because this project will have great character. [3:41:36, 3:41:38]: Um it will exude vibrancy. [3:41:38, 3:41:40]: And it will embrace the arts. [3:41:41, 3:41:58]: So it's my pleasure to have Ms. Kira Harris Braggs, our Main Street program manager, come forward to talk to you about the mural and introduce the very talented mural artists that we have in place to work with us. Ms. Braggs, thank you. [3:42:00, 3:42:11]: Good afternoon. Good evening again. If I could please share my screen, I do have a little bit of a presentation that I would like to be able to provide to you all. [3:42:20, 3:42:22]: Um, do I have sharing privileges yet? [3:42:36, 3:42:38]: Okay, are you all able to see my screen? [3:42:40, 3:42:41]: Yes. [3:42:41, 3:42:42]: Okay. [3:42:43, 3:43:03]: All right. As um Ms. Potts stated, the Main Street Advisory Board did meet and host its strategic planning meeting. And at that annual strategic planning meeting, amongst many of our plans and priorities that we set, we did think about the initiation of a [3:43:03, 3:43:04]: Public arts program. [3:43:05, 3:43:09]: And um the first step with regard to that public arts program. [3:43:09, 3:43:11]: was to [3:43:12, 3:43:14]: Involve a mural program. [3:43:15, 3:43:27]: Um this was taken straight out of our RSVP downtown strategic plan. And we took this into consideration because it was a recommendation. [3:43:27, 3:43:31]: of that particular strategic planning process. [3:43:33, 3:43:53]: I'd like to take the time to introduce mural artist John Christian, who is the artist that we will be working with to realize our first steps toward this vision. You should have received his bio and several samples of his work already. But just to give you a few bullet points, [3:43:53, 3:44:13]: John is an avid supporter of the arts. He believes that we all can create, but sometimes you need a little help to push it in the right direction. And his goal is to create great art that will last for generations. As a muralist, John is creating and installing murals and [3:44:12, 3:44:32]: Small towns and cities across the southeast, mostly in Georgia, and then also Alabama. He's affiliated with his studio, of course, John W. Christian Studio Studios in Mural and Fine Arts in Hapeville, Georgia, as well as the Georgia Mural Trail and the American. [3:44:32, 3:44:35]: American mural trail dot com [3:44:35, 3:44:47]: He is also on the Georgia Council for the Arts Mural Artist listing. And so I would like to just introduce Mr. John Christian and give you all an opportunity. [3:44:47, 3:45:07]: um to see him and then also he will be available at the end of our presentation um for any questions um that you might have. So let me stop sharing my screen and just let John um say hello to you all and um just give you a few words about the Georgia mural project. [3:45:09, 3:45:10]: How's everybody doing? [3:45:11, 3:45:16]: Um basically uh the Georgia Mural trailer kind of started off as a um [3:45:16, 3:45:36]: uh concept for, you know, like when you think in terms of murals, you think in terms of big cities, uh Atlanta and so forth. But if you think about all the dollars spent on the arts, for the most part, 90% of it's spent on the big cities. And the smaller communities don't get do not get as near there the recognition of the [3:45:36, 3:45:41]: So I I came up with the concept of creating uh [3:45:41, 3:45:44]: Fifty murals and fifty cities in five years. [3:45:44, 3:46:04]: So right now I'm at uh 43 murals and uh but uh taken me seven years to do that many. So it's taken a little bit longer. But I've also realized too is um it's a great way to market your community. And what you do is like explore georgia.org, which is the main is kind of like one of the uh main advertising tools. [3:46:04, 3:46:06]: For the stake economic development. [3:46:06, 3:46:14]: They advertise all our murals. There's also the uh the the Georgia um mural tr excuse me, the Georgia Public Art Finder. [3:46:15, 3:46:27]: You click on it, you'll see tons of art projects uh uh uh listed where they are and you guys can let's say if there's one in Stockbridge, it'll basically you click on uh the city of Stockbridge and it'll show what artwork you have. [3:46:27, 3:46:29]: So it's another way to um [3:46:29, 3:46:35]: get the word out about your community and also sh things that you're proud of. [3:46:35, 3:46:54]: Typically with uh the murals that I do is it pretty much a showcase murals of a little bit of the history, economic development for the future, and some community heritage and what what makes your community great. And so that's the kind of things that we try and do and focus on with the projects that we do. [3:46:55, 3:47:01]: Uh I've been uh like I said, I've been doing all kinds of different art projects over the years. So it's not all murals. [3:47:01, 3:47:04]: But uh if anyone's got any questions, I'd be happy to answer. [3:47:06, 3:47:09]: Yeah, um Cataman Blount, go ahead, please. [3:47:12, 3:47:21]: Yeah, I'm uh I'm excited about artwork. You uh you're working over Hateville, uh friend of mine and my well my daughters, uh Chloe Alexander, I'm pretty sure you're familiar with her. [3:47:21, 3:47:23]: Is she a city council member? [3:47:23, 3:47:31]: Yes, and she does a lot of a art and stuff over there and in Hateville and uh and I think it's uh I think it's pretty exciting. [3:47:31, 3:47:33]: You know, to see what uh we can do. [3:47:33, 3:47:38]: Uh to enhance areas around Stockbridge Woodard. So I'm glad to have you on board. [3:47:38, 3:47:39]: Thank you. [3:47:40, 3:47:53]: Well, if you all will allow me to share my screen again, I have a little bit more of a presentation and um we'll div um show you what we're trying to develop and then um we'll also open it again for even more questions. [3:47:54, 3:47:56]: So let me see if I can share this. [3:47:57, 3:48:00]: Okay, are you all able to see my screen? [3:48:00, 3:48:00]: Yes. [3:48:01, 3:48:02]: Okay. [3:48:02, 3:48:08]: Um with regard to this particular project, let's see if I can get it on the slide presentation. [3:48:11, 3:48:31]: Okay. With regard to this project, the proposed mur mural site is the corner of Horrell Street and North Henry Boulevard. This would be located by Stockbridge Elementary School and directly across from City Hall. This particular wall you are able to see. [3:48:31, 3:48:40]: From three different vantage points, and it would be right at the busiest intersection in our downtown area. [3:48:40, 3:49:00]: We are planning to increase the height of this particular site by painting, having the murals painted on panels. So Mr. Christian would be able to affix panels to this particular wall, and then we would continue that mural. [3:49:00, 3:49:07]: um around the corner and through the backside of that wall that isn't quite pictured on this particular picture. [3:49:08, 3:49:15]: But um as time goes on, the mural can actually grow with the community. So we're really excited about that aspect of it. [3:49:18, 3:49:20]: Um some other um [3:49:21, 3:49:41]: Ways that we are looking at increasing murals in the downtown area and expanding this particular public art project is looking at other sites that are possible for downtown as recommended in the RSVP plan. We would love to have a mural in the Breezeway area that's going to create the [3:49:41, 3:50:01]: the connectivity between Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail and Burke Street. We would love to have the space that is available on the side of what is now known as the Ted Strickland Community Center. We have some wall space there that would we would like to enhance that breeze. [3:50:01, 3:50:03]: Sway project that'll be coming online. [3:50:03, 3:50:19]: Also, um there are some prospects on buildings that are in our downtown where we have some sidewalls that are available. We've talked with Fletchers and Sons Automotive, and they are amenable to this project and their site being a possible site. [3:50:19, 3:50:36]: In addition, we are looking at the Oglesby building, which is right there on John Clark Drive. And then also as was depicted in the RSVP, we're even thinking about being innovative and thinking outside of the box and placing a mural. [3:50:36, 3:50:42]: In the intersection of um Love Street and Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [3:50:42, 3:50:56]: Um, however, that would probably be our last mural that we put in place because um we know that there is going to be some work done with regard to that railroad crossing and the connectivity between the amphitheater. [3:50:56, 3:50:58]: And the um [3:50:58, 3:51:05]: Cultural Arts Center. So we'll probably leave that space to be the last one that we tackle in our um [3:51:05, 3:51:07]: Project timeline. [3:51:08, 3:51:20]: Um, just a few notes on the mural timeline in case you're wondering how long this project will take. Um, we're looking at um March 30th for the design process to be completed. [3:51:21, 3:51:29]: And then um April 2nd, the meet around that time, the um mural will start to be painted on the panels. [3:51:29, 3:51:31]: In Mr. Christian's studio. [3:51:31, 3:51:40]: And then by June 30th, we would like to have the mural completed and have an unveiling of that particular site. [3:51:42, 3:52:02]: Um, the mural cost is a total of$11,500. Um, we have received a grant from the Georgia Council on the Arts for a 50-50 match. So they will be paying half of that cost for us through the grant, and we would be responsible for. [3:52:02, 3:52:04]: For the remainder of the cost. [3:52:06, 3:52:19]: The Georgia Council of the Arts, again, I mentioned before in Mr. Christian's bio, he is on their, he is listed as one of their mural artists or on their Georgia Council for the Arts artist listing. [3:52:21, 3:52:33]: Um, as far as the um process is concerned with regard to design, the Main Street program has um through its advisory board created a design, mural design committee. [3:52:33, 3:52:51]: And we are looking at different concepts from across the country to get inspiration for what we would like to do here in Stockbridge. We want something that is going to be engaging, something that is going to um evoke attention. [3:52:51, 3:52:56]: and interest and also be very colorful and [3:52:56, 3:53:00]: Um, something that our community can be very proud of. [3:53:00, 3:53:07]: So we're trying to think outside of the box with regard to what we're going to place in that busy intersection. [3:53:07, 3:53:21]: And that's all I have with regard to the presentation. I would like to open it now for any questions you may have. And ultimately, we are coming to you to get the permission to place the mural at the Herel Street site. [3:53:22, 3:53:24]: Are there any questions at this time? [3:53:25, 3:53:44]: Well let me let me ask say this. Uh uh the uh initial the grant g uh gives us one half of the eleven thousand five hundred, which is roughly five thousand seven hundred and fifty dollars. And of course the other half is by the city. Uh so um and so that uh and maybe I missed it. Where's when is that money initially due? When is it actually due? [3:53:45, 3:53:55]: Um we um have a um schedule basically we would want to um start with um the payment schedule by March the fifteenth. [3:53:55, 3:53:58]: Um, we have already paid a deposit um for [3:53:58, 3:54:05]: Um commissioning the artist design, and that was$1,500 of the total cost. [3:54:05, 3:54:11]: And then at March by March fifteenth or around that time we would like to make a second payment. [3:54:11, 3:54:18]: And then um nothing would the final payment would be due once the mural has been completed and that [3:54:18, 3:54:23]: is um an estimated date of June the thirtieth, the end of June. [3:54:23, 3:54:37]: Okay, so on fifteenth March, yeah it's for the city, it's five thousand seven hundred and twenty dollars, fifty dollars less than fifteen hundred. Is that what we're talking about? Um no we would be looking at I think three thousand three hundred dollars at that point. [3:54:39, 3:54:40]: All right. [3:54:40, 3:54:55]: All right. Good deal. Got it now. Thank you. And then we are reimbursed for the um fit. We pay the total price of the mural and then the Georgia Council on the Arts would reimburse us. Okay. There we go. Thank you. Appreciate it. Council, any other questions? [3:54:57, 3:54:57]: At all. [3:54:58, 3:55:00]: Um Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [3:55:01, 3:55:05]: If there are no questions, I like to move. [3:55:05, 3:55:10]: That we accept the Main Street Muir Project. [3:55:11, 3:55:12]: Second. [3:55:12, 3:55:18]: Okay, there we go. Motion be made in a second. Any further discussion? I got a quick question. Well right here, sir. [3:55:18, 3:55:24]: Here, I don't want to jump the gun. Uh is that s uh and I may have to talk since you're gonna have to unveil it. [3:55:25, 3:55:29]: Is there gonna be a certain theme that we're looking for or is that something you kinda [3:55:31, 3:55:51]: Well, we're going with the um we're going to use the um city's tagline where community connects, and that will be the theme of the piece. So we are looking at different designs that will um embody those words. So the committee has um met twice, and we'll have another meeting scheduled um for this. [3:55:51, 3:56:01]: week and we'll be coming together around that concept and we will be um bringing a design concept to you all for final approval. All right thank you. [3:56:02, 3:56:02]: Mm-hmm. [3:56:03, 3:56:08]: Okay, motion's been made, been seconded. There's no further discussion. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:56:09, 3:56:17]: And it is unanimous. Okay, fantastic. Thank you very much. Thank you, Kira. Okay, thank you very much. And good night, everyone. Bye. [3:56:18, 3:56:19]: Council Cassidy. [3:56:21, 3:56:30]: Council consideration to approve Georgia Power Lightning Lighting Agreement for the Amphitheater Project, Funding Source General Fund and Fund Balance. Mr. Knight, please. [3:56:31, 3:56:37]: Yes, Mayor and Council. This item is related to uh the Georgia Power potential installation. [3:56:38, 3:56:56]: of uh lighting poles, lamps, decorative poles, and aluminum poles in the amphitheater project. There'll be 34 uh decorative poles and then another 19 uh aluminum poles and LED area fixtures throughout the amphitheater campus. [3:56:57, 3:56:59]: Georgia Power will install. [3:56:59, 3:57:02]: Um all of these uh poles. [3:57:04, 3:57:06]: It's a month to month agreement that's renewed. [3:57:06, 3:57:13]: Um or it's a month to month agreement that's automatically renewed month to month. They take care of all of the materials, the labor, energy. [3:57:14, 3:57:22]: and maintenance cost to operate the system uh throughout the amphitheater campus. And so it's kind of a standard agreement. They did give a few options. [3:57:23, 3:57:26]: But I would recommend that um we um [3:57:27, 3:57:29]: Pay the lease amount or the operating amount. [3:57:29, 3:57:33]: Of five thousand one hundred and twenty nine dollars and eighty seven cents. [3:57:34, 3:57:36]: А пермонт форди. [3:57:37, 3:57:41]: of the uh lighting throughout the uh amphitheater campus. [3:57:41, 3:57:46]: Um and typically as we have a street lighted program. [3:57:46, 3:57:48]: On all of our city streets. [3:57:48, 3:57:55]: Um and this would be somewhat similar to that. Uh street lights upon the the roadway that'll run uh through the amphitheater. [3:57:56, 3:57:59]: Also in the parking areas and throughout the amphitheater campus. [3:58:00, 3:58:01]: Um uh [3:58:02, 3:58:13]: Georgia Power is been a good partner for us. They're looking to go ahead and do this. Uh, we need your approval to move this project forward. It's part of obviously the overall amphitheater scheme. [3:58:14, 3:58:18]: And um this would be included in our overall inventory. [3:58:19, 3:58:26]: of streetlights throughout the um uh the city. I think our overall street light budget is about four hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars throughout the entire [3:58:27, 3:58:33]: Um, city, this would be a five thousand per month or roughly a little over sixty thousand dollars per year. [3:58:34, 3:58:39]: to provide for the uh decorative poles and LED lighting throughout the amphitheater campus. [3:58:39, 3:58:41]: request your approval. [3:58:42, 3:58:42]: Thank you, sir. [3:58:43, 3:58:45]: Any questions for Mr. Knighton? [3:58:46, 3:58:46]: Mm-hmm. [3:58:47, 3:58:49]: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. [3:58:49, 3:58:53]: Mm Mr. Knighton, uh, would would these include the lights that we talked about? [3:58:54, 3:58:55]: Uh [3:58:55, 3:58:58]: The same type of lights that are gonna be installed throughout the neighborhood. [3:58:59, 3:59:02]: That we talked about the beautification going up uh Lee Street and [3:59:03, 3:59:08]: These would be similar. These likely would be very similar to that. The the law if you [3:59:08, 3:59:17]: The large decorative poles, the black poles with the block black posts and the large decorative um lights. You there's an example of it, uh should be in your package of what that light. [3:59:18, 3:59:21]: would look like. Um and uh [3:59:21, 3:59:22]: I think it's [3:59:23, 3:59:29]: It's consistent with what you would find in a more refined area in terms of uh the lighting poles. [3:59:29, 3:59:34]: and uh the lighting post tops. So that would be uh generally similar to that. [3:59:35, 3:59:42]: You spoke about the four hundred twenty five thousand dollars. Now, this sixty thousand dollars a year, that's in addition to that. [3:59:43, 3:59:44]: That would be correct, yes. [3:59:45, 3:59:48]: Is that through the for the duration or just to completion? [3:59:49, 3:59:53]: That could be good. That would that would be ongoing. That would be ongoing every year. [3:59:53, 3:59:57]: Oh sixty thousand dollars would be added to our budget for lighting. [3:59:57, 4:00:01]: Uh that's properly yes. We've got a certain amount budgeted [4:00:02, 4:00:09]: Um that four hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars that is generally close to about what we spend. I think we may have been a little bit less last year. [4:00:09, 4:00:13]: But that would be included on an annual basis, yes. [4:00:13, 4:00:24]: So we we're looking at an increase of uh it's gonna be like four hundred and seventy five thousand roughly versus the four twenty five that's been previously pre approved with the system. That's about right, yes. Mm-hmm. [4:00:25, 4:00:26]: Okay. [4:00:28, 4:00:30]: Councillor, any other questions for Mr. Knighton? [4:00:31, 4:00:33]: Yes, ma Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [4:00:34, 4:00:40]: Mr. Knighton. Um I remember around February or March time frame. [4:00:41, 4:00:47]: There was a SCAF recommendation that came before us um for a million dollars. [4:00:48, 4:00:49]: For Georgia Power Lighting. [4:00:50, 4:00:55]: What was that for? Was it just the installation of power poles? [4:00:55, 4:01:00]: Um, for the amphitheater because this million dollars was for the amphitheater. [4:01:00, 4:01:03]: I'm just trying to figure out what is the difference between [4:01:03, 4:01:06]: what we paid for then and what you're asking for now. [4:01:10, 4:01:20]: I seem to recall, I'm trying to remember exactly what that was if Deshis is on here might be able to help me. I'm trying to remember exactly what that would would have been for. [4:01:26, 4:01:27]: That was [4:01:28, 4:01:32]: Mr. A R I I I can't recall right offhand what that would have been for. [4:01:37, 4:01:38]: Mr. Aaron? [4:01:40, 4:01:40]: It's your [4:01:41, 4:01:51]: Well there you go. Yes. I'm I'm thinking that it might have had to do with those transformers they installed. Okay. I think those two transformers that were installed. [4:01:52, 4:01:54]: But it wasn't a million dollars, was it wasn't [4:01:56, 4:01:57]: It wasn't um [4:01:57, 4:02:02]: I don't recall it being that much. That I mean not that much is a million dollars. [4:02:02, 4:02:04]: I thought it was closer to [4:02:05, 4:02:12]: Little over a hundred thousand dollars. I'm trying to do this from memory on the track I'll have to go back and look at my notes, but I can submit that information tomorrow. [4:02:16, 4:02:23]: Councilwoman, I think you're right. I do recall that we did um provide uh an item, but I don't think it was nearly um [4:02:23, 4:02:25]: That large of amount. [4:02:27, 4:02:34]: My memory serves me frankly. I abstained from that vote. Um I was relatively new on the council on a million. Thank you. [4:02:34, 4:02:40]: Right. I think you're right. It was during that time frame, like twenty nineteen, going into twenty twenty, if I recall. [4:02:40, 4:02:41]: Uh it was in twenty twenty. [4:02:41, 4:02:42]: Twenty twenty. Okay. [4:02:43, 4:02:43]: Mm-hmm. [4:02:43, 4:02:54]: Um that worked in the rock time frame. But I wanted to know what I'm doing, maybe so you can ask for now. [4:02:56, 4:02:58]: Okay, any other questions for Mr. Knighton? [4:03:00, 4:03:08]: I would imagine Miss Knight, you'll you'll uh between you and Mr. Aaron, you'll figure this thing out and g let us know what the what this issue is and s and solve this particular mystery, I guess you may say. [4:03:09, 4:03:17]: Absolutely. All right. Thank you. All right. No other questions. Uh, Council, I need a motion to accept uh this uh proposal from Georgia Power. [4:03:20, 4:03:21]: I need a motion. [4:03:23, 4:03:24]: So move. [4:03:24, 4:03:25]: Is there a second? [4:03:27, 4:03:28]: And his second [4:03:29, 4:03:30]: I said [4:03:31, 4:03:37]: Okay, Ms. Gantt I believe that's you second that okay. Uh no further discussion. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:03:39, 4:03:41]: Okay. All polls? [4:03:43, 4:03:43]: Abstain. [4:03:44, 4:03:47]: I abstain. Okay, so four zero one. [4:03:47, 4:03:55]: All right, thank you. Uh what's next? Council consideration to approve uh bond interest interest rates, fees, and distribution. [4:03:56, 4:03:59]: Presented by Mr. Knighton, Ed Wall, Doug Selby. [4:03:59, 4:04:00]: And Mr. Washington. [4:04:02, 4:04:02]: Gentlemen. [4:04:03, 4:04:03]: Please have at it. [4:04:04, 4:04:11]: Yes, Mayor and Council. Um this was an item related to um the bond financing that was approved uh several weeks ago. [4:04:12, 4:04:16]: It was one of the items, a uh series C bomb. [4:04:16, 4:04:23]: Um, that slightly changed in terms of the interest rate, just the series C bond. So we needed to, as a matter of [4:04:23, 4:04:30]: information transparency. Wanted to make sure we brought that item back to you for your review and approval. [4:04:30, 4:04:32]: Mr. Wall is here to discuss that item. [4:04:33, 4:04:33]: as well. [4:04:35, 4:04:40]: Thank you, um, Mr. Knighton. Um, can everybody hear me, Mayor? Can you hear me? Hear you, sir. Go right in, please. [4:04:41, 4:04:46]: So uh y'all know we approved three series of bonds, the first series, the A series. [4:04:46, 4:04:52]: Um was uh seven million for the amphitheater and two point eight million for cultural arts. [4:04:52, 4:04:55]: It was nine million nine hundred and ten thousand. [4:04:55, 4:04:58]: I had hoped the interest rate would be one point three two percent. [4:04:59, 4:05:00]: And um [4:05:01, 4:05:06]: We were able to get truest bank, Suntrust Bank to agree to it. It wanted one point three six [4:05:06, 4:05:08]: Rates have uh trended up. [4:05:08, 4:05:11]: Since uh February the first, pretty dramatically. [4:05:12, 4:05:21]: But they agreed to the one point three two percent for the series A that I told y'all about three weeks ago. So that's good to go. Series B was one million and ten thousand. [4:05:22, 4:05:24]: It was a a one million and thirty thousand. [4:05:25, 4:05:28]: It was for uh a portion of the trail network. [4:05:28, 4:05:31]: Again, A and B were a four year bond. [4:05:31, 4:05:34]: They were gonna be paid for with the swast. [4:05:35, 4:05:36]: And um [4:05:36, 4:05:43]: The interest rate for it was one point oh four percent tax exempt. That's what we I told you three weeks ago. [4:05:43, 4:05:47]: We were able to get Sun Trust to agree to that one point oh four percent. [4:05:48, 4:05:49]: Series C [4:05:49, 4:05:50]: Was um [4:05:51, 4:05:51]: Um [4:05:52, 4:05:59]: Eleven million in change for the remainder of the cultural arts center and three million for public safety equipment. [4:05:59, 4:06:01]: It was a fifteen year bond issue. [4:06:02, 4:06:03]: It was secured by the general fund. [4:06:04, 4:06:07]: I quoted you two point two five percent. [4:06:08, 4:06:09]: Three weeks ago. [4:06:10, 4:06:13]: Suntrust came back with two point three five percent. [4:06:14, 4:06:19]: But I asked'em for an option that I could repay it without any prepayment penalty. [4:06:19, 4:06:22]: After five years, um [4:06:22, 4:06:30]: That when we voted a new splost, if you decide to choose to add projects to the newsplot to pay these bonds off early. [4:06:30, 4:06:32]: We could do it with no prepayment penalty. [4:06:32, 4:06:34]: And the rate for that option. [4:06:34, 4:06:36]: is two point five three percent. [4:06:36, 4:06:39]: And that's the option that I want to recommend to all. [4:06:39, 4:06:44]: was a two point five three percent. So that's different than what I told you three weeks ago. [4:06:46, 4:06:46]: Okay. [4:06:47, 4:06:52]: Any questions from Mr. Ed Wall? Um Mr. Blount, your hand was up first. Go ahead. [4:06:53, 4:06:57]: Mr. Walls, uh on the uh fourteen million that's gonna be bonded. [4:06:59, 4:07:00]: Um [4:07:01, 4:07:07]: You saying that's the one that you're looking at at two point five three, but you're trying to do a five year option on. Is that the one you're saying? [4:07:07, 4:07:08]: Yes, sir. [4:07:08, 4:07:09]: Yes, sir. [4:07:09, 4:07:13]: Uh within those five years, if that if that stands [4:07:14, 4:07:26]: What would be the payment, annual payment on that from uh general funds and then what would be the annual uh estimated annual payment after that? I I don't know if you can do the after, but I know you can do the five years before. [4:07:26, 4:07:27]: Yes, sir. So um [4:07:28, 4:07:32]: It's a fifteen year fixed rate at two point five three. [4:07:33, 4:07:38]: You just have the option after five years to prepay it early with no prepayment penalty? [4:07:38, 4:07:42]: And if I could, um, if the moderator will let me share my screen. [4:07:43, 4:07:50]: You did, so I'm good to go. If you'll hang on just a minute, Councilman Blount, I'll show you what the payments are on that bond issue. [4:08:09, 4:08:10]: [14904.3, 14905.1]: Can you see that? [4:08:25, 4:08:26]: Screen kills my butt. [4:08:27, 4:08:28]: Yes, sir. [4:08:29, 4:08:32]: So the payments that you have here for the um [4:08:32, 4:08:33]: The option that we have. [4:08:34, 4:08:35]: Is um [4:08:35, 4:08:37]: Fourteen million eight hundred sixty five thousand. [4:08:38, 4:08:40]: You see the payments coming from the um [4:08:41, 4:08:41]: Um [4:08:42, 4:08:43]: General Fund. [4:08:44, 4:08:45]: Um [4:08:45, 4:08:49]: The f we've capitalized interest in this bond issue, so the first payment that you'll make. [4:08:50, 4:08:53]: is august first of twenty twenty two. [4:08:54, 4:09:00]: And um it'll be about half of this three hundred and seventy six thousand dollars you see. [4:09:00, 4:09:03]: So your twenty two budget will in will [4:09:03, 4:09:04]: require you to put [4:09:05, 4:09:09]: About a hundred and eighty thousand dollars is a payment for that year. [4:09:10, 4:09:14]: Then the remaining in twenty-three would be a million five from the general fund. [4:09:15, 4:09:18]: And then you see it drops to nine hundred and ninety-one thousand and twenty-nine. [4:09:19, 4:09:28]: The reason that it's bigger in those years is we're we're doing we're doing an an a nine year term for the public safety equipment for three million. [4:09:28, 4:09:31]: But a fifteen year term on cultural arts. [4:09:31, 4:09:36]: 'cause the useful life of the public safety equipment won't won't all be fifteen years. [4:09:37, 4:09:49]: So the the interest payment for the remainder of this year would be the is that the 139,987? Yes, sir, but it's capitalizing the bond issue in this fourteen million eight hundred and sixty-five thousand dollars. [4:09:50, 4:09:52]: I've included enough money in here. [4:09:53, 4:09:55]: Pay all of this and half of that. [4:09:57, 4:10:02]: So the first payment is that it actually gotta come out of the general fund is half of this three hundred and seventy six thousand dollar number. [4:10:05, 4:10:08]: So we're one, two, three, four, five, six. [4:10:09, 4:10:12]: Okay, so we're looking at a about six years. [4:10:13, 4:10:19]: Of a million, uh million and a little over a million and a half each year. Is that correct? [4:10:19, 4:10:20]: Yes, sir. [4:10:21, 4:10:24]: And that's out of fu uh that's gonna be out of the general fund. [4:10:25, 4:10:25]: Yes, sir. [4:10:26, 4:10:27]: A million and a half. [4:10:28, 4:10:29]: Yes, sir. [4:10:30, 4:10:31]: Um [4:10:34, 4:10:34]: Okay. [4:10:37, 4:10:42]: When when you was doing the calculations and on this [4:10:42, 4:10:44]: One of the things that you did recommend. [4:10:45, 4:10:52]: Is that we wait and we didn't we and we had we moved forward with with this. Now we're talking about a million and a half. [4:10:53, 4:10:56]: Uh one point five million dollars plus hit. [4:10:56, 4:11:02]: put it for the next six years on there and then can uh continual after that is about a million, close to a million dollar hit. [4:11:02, 4:11:03]: After that. [4:11:03, 4:11:06]: Um, if we do some type of finagling. [4:11:07, 4:11:17]: Um, I just wanted to reaffirm with you because like I've said before, um, I guess I was one of the council members that didn't vote for it. So what you're sell telling us, and one of the things that you said. [4:11:18, 4:11:22]: But looking at our finances and how we are operating now as our uh uh [4:11:23, 4:11:24]: Financial advisor. [4:11:25, 4:11:29]: How are we supposed to pay this without decreasing our fund balance? [4:11:29, 4:11:30]: Uh every year. [4:11:32, 4:11:34]: You'll have to cut expenses or levy a property tax. [4:11:36, 4:11:36]: Okay. [4:11:40, 4:11:41]: Okay, thank you, sir. [4:11:43, 4:11:49]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Yeah, thank you so much, Mayor. Uh listen, okay, either you're gonna lead or you're gonna get out of the way. [4:11:49, 4:11:50]: Okay. [4:11:50, 4:11:55]: See already delay has already caused the interest rates to go up. [4:11:56, 4:11:56]: So [4:11:57, 4:12:00]: The reason you don't wait is because the interest rates have gone up. [4:12:02, 4:12:04]: When the stimulus money hits the economy. [4:12:05, 4:12:06]: They're gonna continue to go up. [4:12:07, 4:12:16]: It's reckless to continue to talk about waiting. This delay has already cost us money by waiting, by taking so long to get to the bond issue. [4:12:19, 4:12:24]: I wonder about that sometimes because it takes us a long time to get around to things. [4:12:25, 4:12:27]: And in twenty twenty one. [4:12:27, 4:12:28]: Right. [4:12:28, 4:12:35]: Every time we delay and that interest rate tick up a little bit, that's hundreds of thousands of dollars. [4:12:37, 4:12:40]: See, we got one rate earlier. [4:12:40, 4:12:43]: And we got a higher rate this time because they changed. [4:12:44, 4:12:45]: Because it took so long. [4:12:47, 4:12:49]: Delay costs money. [4:12:49, 4:12:57]: See, just like with the developers and the builders, when the wood cost has doubled within the last two to three months. [4:12:57, 4:12:58]: Добуд. [4:12:59, 4:13:05]: Because of the forest fires in California, it costs developers more money when you slow their project down. [4:13:06, 4:13:10]: Because of a developer could have got their project in the ground in November and December. [4:13:11, 4:13:13]: Their cost would have been half. [4:13:14, 4:13:15]: Of what they are now. [4:13:16, 4:13:16]: So [4:13:17, 4:13:21]: Yeah, when they're where when they're pinching pennies to try to get to where they're going. [4:13:21, 4:13:25]: They're pinching pennies because it's taking too long to get around to things. [4:13:25, 4:13:34]: Delay costs money. And in 2021, it's gonna cost a lot of money to a lot of folks because every time you delay, [4:13:34, 4:13:43]: And the Fed is talking about inflation and the Fed is talking about the economy coming back. And when two trillion dollars hits this economy. [4:13:44, 4:13:45]: Okay. [4:13:45, 4:13:49]: This fourteen million dollars that we're bonding now, okay. [4:13:49, 4:13:51]: That payment goes up. [4:13:53, 4:13:53]: So [4:13:54, 4:13:55]: We can talk about delay. [4:13:56, 4:14:07]: But we need to get on a streamlined process and move the process forward. Because if we don't move the process forward now, the next time the bond and the next time we get a quote. [4:14:07, 4:14:09]: The interest rate is going to go up. [4:14:10, 4:14:12]: Okay, the interest rate is going to go up. [4:14:13, 4:14:15]: As we know there is another splash coming. [4:14:16, 4:14:17]: Right. [4:14:17, 4:14:18]: There's another splash coming. [4:14:19, 4:14:24]: We hope to have a tea splice on the budget uh later on on this year. [4:14:24, 4:14:31]: So there's nothing against the rule that says you can't take the next floss and pay this off. Nothing. [4:14:33, 4:14:36]: Ви гивни до сидис войн. [4:14:36, 4:14:41]: After years and years and years of no projects in the city getting done. [4:14:42, 4:14:44]: We're actually getting things done. [4:14:45, 4:14:48]: This bond issuance helps us to pay for the amphitheater. [4:14:48, 4:14:50]: The Culture Arts Center. [4:14:50, 4:14:51]: The police. [4:14:51, 4:14:54]: Uh startup costs all of the above. [4:14:55, 4:14:59]: We've had these discussions over and over again, yet we continue to go down the same road. [4:15:00, 4:15:03]: We gotta lead, ladies and gentlemen. It takes courage to lead. [4:15:04, 4:15:06]: And be in that mode to mo to move forward. [4:15:07, 4:15:09]: So what are we gonna do? Are we gonna sit here and talk about this? [4:15:10, 4:15:11]: We're gonna go ahead and pass it. [4:15:11, 4:15:14]: Because in the end, if we don't pass it today. [4:15:15, 4:15:17]: The next time it's gonna be a little bit higher. [4:15:18, 4:15:19]: So [4:15:20, 4:15:22]: That's my fault. That's my that's my my spiel. [4:15:23, 4:15:24]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [4:15:24, 4:15:28]: Um Mr. Mayor, thank you. I I just want to remind the council. [4:15:29, 4:15:32]: That Mr. Knight and I showed [4:15:32, 4:15:36]: A surplus of five hundred thousand dollars. [4:15:36, 4:15:38]: Annually [4:15:38, 4:15:41]: uh just by bringing permit in in house. [4:15:41, 4:15:46]: And and that was just based on twenty twenty, which was a was a lean year. [4:15:47, 4:15:47]: Um [4:15:47, 4:15:51]: But after the discussions, uh, I will make the motion. [4:15:51, 4:15:53]: I will yield now to [4:15:53, 4:15:57]: uh allow for other comments, but I just want to remind council. [4:15:58, 4:15:58]: That [4:15:59, 4:16:00]: Three hundred [4:16:00, 4:16:03]: To five hundred thousand dollars annually. [4:16:04, 4:16:08]: That we are not realizing simple because. [4:16:08, 4:16:10]: We are not bringing [4:16:11, 4:16:13]: those services. [4:16:14, 4:16:15]: In-house. [4:16:17, 4:16:17]: Right. [4:16:18, 4:16:26]: Um mayor Tim, go ahead. Yeah, really quick. Now think about this. There's five hundred thousand dollars. We get ready to start our police force. [4:16:27, 4:16:40]: We already know there's an additional five hundred thousand dollars out of there in revenue that's being collected in our city and sent to the state yearly, right? Because the trap this the the citations are not coming to the court. [4:16:40, 4:16:42]: The citations wanna increase. [4:16:42, 4:16:47]: they'll just be transferred into the city. So we already know that. So in addition to what uh [4:16:48, 4:16:49]: Councilman Thomas just stated. [4:16:49, 4:16:52]: By developing by bringing the police department [4:16:53, 4:16:57]: uh to fruition as we said, we'll be able to bring that back. [4:16:57, 4:16:59]: А те до ситі муніципол корт. [4:17:00, 4:17:10]: All right. Uh I saw a hand up earlier. Uh Ms. Gantt, was that your hand I saw earlier? Nope. Okay. Anyone? Oh, I'll put it uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [4:17:13, 4:17:14]: Okay, so [4:17:14, 4:17:15]: Um [4:17:16, 4:17:19]: Not really a question, it's more of a statement. [4:17:19, 4:17:20]: And [4:17:21, 4:17:22]: I know. [4:17:22, 4:17:24]: With these bonds. [4:17:24, 4:17:27]: um the issuance of these bonds, we need legal counsel. [4:17:28, 4:17:30]: Have a real problem. [4:17:31, 4:17:33]: When we're paying these attorneys. [4:17:33, 4:17:35]: On the front end, a salary. [4:17:37, 4:17:39]: but yet they're also getting paid. [4:17:39, 4:17:40]: On the back end. [4:17:41, 4:17:41]: With these boxes. [4:17:43, 4:17:44]: This was [4:17:45, 4:17:46]: The very topic. [4:17:47, 4:17:50]: That I spoke with the former city attorney about. [4:17:51, 4:17:53]: I think my second or third month on the council. [4:17:54, 4:17:58]: In which he agreed to remove the language. [4:17:58, 4:17:59]: From his contract. [4:18:01, 4:18:03]: So that he would not be compensated. [4:18:03, 4:18:05]: From these bonds. [4:18:08, 4:18:11]: Mr. Knighton, I spoke with him last week or the week before. [4:18:11, 4:18:13]: Along with Mr. Walls. [4:18:13, 4:18:15]: In regards to my concerns. [4:18:16, 4:18:21]: With the attorneys being paid on the back end of these bonds. [4:18:21, 4:18:24]: They're being hired to provide legal counsel. [4:18:25, 4:18:31]: I understand that there are um processes and paperwork that needs to go through the court systems. [4:18:32, 4:18:33]: But they are attorneys. [4:18:34, 4:18:36]: That's what we hire them for. [4:18:36, 4:18:38]: We're paying them on the front end. [4:18:38, 4:18:39]: To provide us. [4:18:40, 4:18:41]: With legal advice. [4:18:42, 4:18:47]: Why is it now necessary for us to also pay them one percent? [4:18:47, 4:18:51]: of this twenty five million dollars. I got a problem with that. [4:18:52, 4:18:54]: Is the very reason why? [4:18:54, 4:18:59]: I asked Mr. Williams to change or remove that language from his contract. [4:19:01, 4:19:02]: So while he was here. [4:19:03, 4:19:04]: With the city. [4:19:05, 4:19:07]: He was not going to be paid. [4:19:07, 4:19:09]: Or be compensated from these bonds. [4:19:10, 4:19:13]: Now that he's aligned himself with the PFA board. [4:19:14, 4:19:15]: He now has an opportunity. [4:19:15, 4:19:16]: to be paid. [4:19:17, 4:19:20]: Or compensated from these volumes. [4:19:21, 4:19:24]: Mr. Berry and Mr. Washington are just coming on board. [4:19:25, 4:19:31]: I know that they're gonna be splitting this uh one percent of the bonds. I just have a real problem. [4:19:31, 4:19:33]: with them being paid on the back end. [4:19:34, 4:19:36]: That's all. I just wanted to make that comment. [4:19:38, 4:19:40]: Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [4:19:42, 4:19:48]: Mayor, one of the things that I truly understand is that when any city and you can look across this country [4:19:49, 4:19:51]: Anytime there's bonding being done. [4:19:52, 4:19:58]: Your city attorney is gonna get paid and the financial advisor's gonna get paid off those bonds. That's just the way the system is set up. [4:19:59, 4:20:00]: Nothing is done for free. [4:20:01, 4:20:02]: Um [4:20:02, 4:20:06]: One of the things that c concerns me more than that. [4:20:07, 4:20:11]: Is that this city has put ourselves in a position with these bonds? [4:20:12, 4:20:19]: That we're speaking on terms of paying how we can pay this, like it's not more taxpayers' money, rather, it's PLOS. [4:20:20, 4:20:24]: Or whether it's extra revenue coming in is still taxpayers' money. [4:20:25, 4:20:29]: And when we talk about taking a five hundred uh a one point five million plus hit. [4:20:30, 4:20:36]: for six years and then uh uh over six m uh about a million dollar hit after that. But we sit here and we'll talk like [4:20:37, 4:20:41]: It's not taxpayers' money, even if it's extra revenue. [4:20:43, 4:20:45]: We're talking about taxpayers' money, we're talking about [4:20:46, 4:20:53]: What it takes to make sound decision. When we make this decision to bond and we're gonna hold 14 million dollars in the bank. [4:20:54, 4:20:57]: to pay revenue to pay interest on. [4:20:57, 4:21:03]: Which came against the standard that was that that that our financial advisor has said that we [4:21:03, 4:21:05]: He wouldn't advise that. [4:21:06, 4:21:08]: A paid financial advisor. [4:21:09, 4:21:15]: We've got our city manager that Steve B uh Bundy added that he knows that [4:21:15, 4:21:17]: This shouldn't go this way. [4:21:18, 4:21:27]: But we got elected officials that have approved 14, we we know we gotta finish the amphitheater, but we got 14 million dollars in bonds we're getting ready to pay, y'all. [4:21:28, 4:21:31]: One over one point five miljon dollars a year on for six years. [4:21:32, 4:21:33]: But it's okay. [4:21:34, 4:21:36]: Because we got extra revenue coming in. [4:21:36, 4:21:38]: All of it is taxpayers' money. [4:21:39, 4:21:53]: All of it is taxpayer money. And for us to sit money in the bank and bonds to pay interest on before we do a project, instead of looking at how we're gonna do this and move about and then take the advice of the people we've hired to give us the advice. [4:21:54, 4:21:55]: А е за ситисон. [4:21:56, 4:21:59]: Didn't want to see this city go down that road, but we have. [4:22:00, 4:22:00]: And now [4:22:01, 4:22:04]: Дефвита фенечі тленус. [4:22:05, 4:22:07]: A financial advisor telling us. [4:22:07, 4:22:15]: That we may have to implement a tax to pay this because our budget is only about 12 million, and we're talking about now. [4:22:15, 4:22:23]: We're talking 1.5 million and other costs that we're going to accumulate because we have capital improvement projects already going, major project. [4:22:25, 4:22:27]: So, but it's okay. [4:22:28, 4:22:29]: Because we got [4:22:29, 4:22:30]: Other funds coming in. [4:22:32, 4:22:33]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [4:22:34, 4:22:38]: Mr. Mayor, I I move that we approve the um [4:22:39, 4:22:43]: Bond interest rate for fees and distributions. [4:22:43, 4:22:50]: All right, is that a second? Second. Second. Okay, mayor pro tem second that. Okay, unless there's other further discussion. [4:22:50, 4:22:52]: If it's not all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:22:53, 4:22:54]: Okay. [4:22:55, 4:22:57]: Oh all right. Miss Barber, you had your [4:22:59, 4:23:03]: I'm I'm so are you are you voting for it and against it or just abstain? [4:23:05, 4:23:06]: Ms. Barber, are you voting for it or? [4:23:08, 4:23:10]: Did you call for the vote? [4:23:10, 4:23:19]: I know I we already voted. Oh, I thought we vo voted. I was just wondering where you vote. I I got four comf uh affirmatives. I wouldn't sure are you forward to vote? It's unanimous decision then. Okay. [4:23:19, 4:23:20]: All right, thank you. [4:23:20, 4:23:25]: Appreciate that. Um what's next what's next or my comments? [4:23:25, 4:23:35]: Oh Mayor Ford, Mayor Ford, I think Councilman Blount Councilman Blount didn't Councilman Blount did not was not included on that vote. I didn't vote. I'm sorry in affirmative. [4:23:36, 4:23:37]: So you are okay, so it's [4:23:37, 4:23:40]: So you you're a so what is one? [4:23:40, 4:23:45]: Four oh four to one. All right, excuse me. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Thank you for getting it straight. Appreciate that. [4:23:45, 4:23:46]: All right. Um [4:23:47, 4:23:51]: Couple of notes, a couple uh things I need to mention. First of all, it's your constitutional right to [4:23:52, 4:24:04]: to vote. So the Henry County clause number six is is up for a referendum right now. And um so that's proposed investments of$325 million with the Henry County school system. [4:24:04, 4:24:24]: And the project list, you can check that out at uh henryesbloss.com. So we're looking at creating a STEM opportunities, addressing uh constant growth uh which which the county is having. School system upgrades, technology upgrades, transportation upgrades. Uh early voting is going on right now at the Merle Manders Conference Center. [4:24:24, 4:24:44]: and all the and even at the Fairview to Austin Roads and uh then as I and I know I asked the clerk earlier today this before the meeting started that actually on the sixteenth of uh March, actual election day, you go to your normal poll, uh your election poll to uh to actually vote on that particular day itself. [4:24:44, 4:25:04]: So it's constitutional rights, so please get out there and vote, folks. And also the 90th district, the state representative has a runoff if you actually happen to be a citizen in the area that is represented by the 90th district. And that is actually being conducted at Merrill Man. [4:25:04, 4:25:05]: Conference center as well. [4:25:06, 4:25:17]: Yeah. Um let's talk about the vaccination and which is uh ongoing as we as we is now in reference to this COVID nineteen. Um [4:25:18, 4:25:38]: The March 16th next Tuesday. Uh it'll be the second doses for JP Mosley. And then March 23rd and the 30th on Tuesday. It'll be a second doses for people uh that have to go to uh to um locust grove. All right, and uh that's from 8:30 to 3 p.m. now second. [4:25:38, 4:25:40]: [15941.1, 15947.2]: And I said Mark 16th and JP Mosley, that's really the individuals that that had their first doses at the Merrill Miners Conference Center. [4:25:47, 4:25:52]: Several weeks ago, actually three weeks ago, the second doses will be at JP Mosley. [4:25:52, 4:25:55]: Okay. Now and of course to make a reservation. [4:25:56, 4:26:02]: for any of the vaccination shots and the public uh health department number to do this would be seven six two [4:26:03, 4:26:06]: eight eight eight eight one eight zero. Once again seven six two [4:26:07, 4:26:09]: eight eight eight eight one eight zero. [4:26:10, 4:26:15]: Now starting on March twenty fifth, the county has worked it out with the Atlanta Motor Speedway. [4:26:16, 4:26:17]: Yeah, starting March twenty fifth. [4:26:18, 4:26:21]: The uh vaccinations will be conducted at [4:26:21, 4:26:23]: Atlanta Motor Speedway. [4:26:23, 4:26:27]: And uh that's Tarson eight eight thirty to two forty five. [4:26:27, 4:26:44]: And it's like a max uh vaccination site. They're looking at roughly a thousand to fifteen hundred people uh to handle through that uh drive-thru um max uh vaccination site. So uh so actually vaccinations always open up on Wednesday at um [4:26:45, 4:26:45]: Eight o'clock. [4:26:46, 4:26:48]: And go from Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. [4:26:48, 4:26:58]: you know, to make your appointment. And um it is eight to five every day. And then once again that's 762-888-8180. [4:26:59, 4:27:00]: All right. [4:27:00, 4:27:16]: Now, the Henry County Schools, this general information for folks, and if there's school teachers out here, it's been notified that the the uh governor wants to get the school teachers and the school personnel vaccinated. Well, the Henry County County schools now have their own pod. [4:27:17, 4:27:21]: And uh they have the Johnson and Johnson. [4:27:21, 4:27:26]: One shot, Johnson and Johnson for all school teachers and and folks within the school system. [4:27:27, 4:27:47]: And that'll be conducted on Wednesdays. And this Wednesday for sure, there are roughly gonna be 300 people that they want to vaccinate with the Johnson and Johnson. And that's gonna be at the old Henry County Middle School location. The old Henry County School Mid uh uh middle school location is where I'll be done. That's open, that'll be available for school teachers and school personnel. [4:27:47, 4:27:49]: Nine A. M. to three PM. [4:27:49, 4:28:05]: And then the following Wednesdays, they're looking to get uh five hundred or six hundred people in the school system vaccinated. And uh they roughly have uh thirty four hundred doses scheduled of Johnson and Johnson, which is one shot. [4:28:05, 4:28:11]: Uh for the Henry County School System, some general information for you. And I forgot to mention this earlier. When you go to Atlanta Motor Speedway, [4:28:12, 4:28:32]: That'd be the Pfizer vaccination, by the way. Pfizer, when we go to the Atlanta Motor Speedway, and it's based on the uh the availability of the doses. So uh and that's so so you so you need to know that. Now, also vaccinations have the priority, but if you still need to be [4:28:32, 4:28:52]: be tested. All right. And the Heritage Senior Center at 1050 Florence McGardy Boulevard in McDonough will still test you. You have to set an appointment for that though. Once again that's 800-847-4262. 800-847-4262 for a testing. The priority [4:28:52, 4:28:58]: of course is on vaccinations, but some people still need to get tested so that that you can do that. That's Monday to Thursday. [4:28:59, 4:29:00]: Nine AM to three PM. [4:29:01, 4:29:03]: Or Saturdays nine AM to twelve moon. [4:29:03, 4:29:05]: Twelve noon, excuse me. [4:29:05, 4:29:06]: at the Heritage Senior Center. [4:29:07, 4:29:08]: All right. [4:29:08, 4:29:11]: Now a bit of information that you need to know. [4:29:11, 4:29:12]: Found out this today. [4:29:13, 4:29:18]: You know, you've heard about in the media and the news there's different variations of this covet nineteen. [4:29:19, 4:29:21]: Well, unfortunately s uh Henry County. [4:29:22, 4:29:23]: And stop breed specifically. [4:29:24, 4:29:25]: Have hit the radar screen. [4:29:26, 4:29:29]: І South African virus of ковід найти. [4:29:29, 4:29:32]: What's it called? B one five one three one. [4:29:32, 4:29:34]: has one case [4:29:34, 4:29:36]: And where it happened to be the first case. [4:29:36, 4:29:37]: In Georgia. [4:29:38, 4:29:39]: Someone [4:29:39, 4:29:40]: Unfortunately. [4:29:41, 4:29:44]: In Henry County, even more so, I've been told in Stockbridge. [4:29:45, 4:30:05]: Came up with the South African virus. All right. Now they're gonna the public health department's gonna research this further in reference to other cases with the that may be in Georgia. But supposedly we unfortunately have the very first one of this virus. They also acknowledge the fact that the European virus or the UK virus, basically what they call it, that's a B117. [4:30:05, 4:30:11]: is in the state. I didn't they I didn't give me a total of number of people, but somehow this virus is in the state as well. [4:30:12, 4:30:15]: So my point to everybody, of course, is this this is real. [4:30:15, 4:30:32]: This is not fake. This is real and it's serious. So mask up, wash your hands, use hand sanitizer, stay away from big crowds, and uh just be careful and get your vaccination when the time comes up, when you're qualified for that. And if you want to get tested, go please go get tested. [4:30:33, 4:30:37]: And in this aspect, extremely important and it's extremely dare a dangerous virus. [4:30:38, 4:30:58]: Um, I believe that is all my comments at this time, other than the fact that uh I'd like for you all to keep your uh keep prayers and keep the um Gary Barnum and his family in your prayers and um and just keep yourself safe in the process because um the COVID [4:30:58, 4:31:02]: We'll take you out if you're not ready, if you're not right for this. So just be safe. [4:31:04, 4:31:10]: Um on that note, I'll move on to other comments. Uh city offices are closed due to COVID 19 precautions. [4:31:11, 4:31:31]: City offices are closed until further notice. And if you have to go to the city website, which is citystoppers.com and to get any additional information on things that are going on with the city or any service information whatsoever. And of course, uh you go to Facebook page or contact city hall offices at 770-389-7900. [4:31:31, 4:31:33]: [16294.3, 16314.3]: City Council meeting is uh the 30th, the second Monday of each month, which should our next one will be the 12th of April. Main Street Advisory Board meeting is 9 a.m. And by way of Zoom. Matter of fact, all these meetings by way of Zoom. Second Friday of each month, which should be 12 March. Downtown Development Authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. [4:31:54, 4:31:58]: third Tuesday of each month at uh which will be sixteenth March. [4:31:59, 4:32:19]: The U Council Advisory meeting is 6 30 by way of Zoom, 30 the third third excuse me, the third Tuesday of each month, which is also 16 uh March. And the Planning Commission meeting is uh 6:30 by way of Zoom, the fourth Thursday of each month, and that'll be the 25th of March. And our next council work session is 6 p.m. by Zoom. And of course. [4:32:19, 4:32:32]: course it's the last Tuesday of each month and that'd be the 30 March. And uh council, I need a motion to go in as a for specific uh legal litigation issues. Okay. [4:32:32, 4:32:33]: Come. [4:32:33, 4:32:38]: No move. Ms. Plus, so move. Second Gantt, second dad. All in favor, please indicate. [4:32:40, 4:32:43]: All right. Thank you very much. Um [4:32:43, 4:32:57]: I will say, Miss Holliday, we need separate uh email links to get in. I have ten twenty eight. So uh we need ten minutes or so. We need ten minutes to before we get this and get back in the exact session. That'll work. [4:32:58, 4:32:59]: I can't hear you, Miss Holliday. [4:33:01, 4:33:08]: Yeah. Only about five. It won't take that long. All right. So I'll see ladies and gentlemen about five minutes or so. Thank you. [4:33:11, 4:33:13]: Please exit this meeting. [4:33:23, 4:33:24]: Okay. [4:39:03, 4:39:09]: Right, so we got uh we are missing the clerk is not present. [4:39:10, 4:39:13]: And uh Barber's not present. [4:39:16, 4:39:17]: Can't you hear me? [4:39:28, 4:39:30]: Okay, where's the clerk? [4:39:35, 4:39:35]: Just trying to get in there. [4:39:36, 4:39:37]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [4:39:59, 4:40:01]: Okay, so we [4:40:02, 4:40:05]: Everybody. Well well wait a minute. [4:40:06, 4:40:09]: Uh Miss Can, are you online? [4:40:11, 4:40:14]: It's cancer, okay. [4:40:16, 4:40:17]: Please. [4:40:18, 4:40:19]: I don't believe my [4:40:20, 4:40:22]: Or Miss and Miss Barber. [4:40:23, 4:40:24]: There she comes. [4:40:28, 4:40:34]: All right. So we have everybody now. So council, I need a motion to end executive session, please. [4:40:37, 4:40:38]: Estamos. [4:40:38, 4:40:45]: Okay. Okay. So Miss Ms. Gantt? Mr. Thomas. All right. Thank you. All favor, please indicate. [4:40:47, 4:40:52]: Okay, thank you very much. Now I need a motion to convene our council meeting, please. [4:40:52, 4:40:53]: Come move. [4:40:53, 4:41:08]: Okay, is there a second? Okay, Ms. Thomas seconds that one as well. Thank you. Um before you do that, we have nothing to report uh uh from the executive session for the general public. So on that note, folks, I need a motion to end our council meeting. So moved. [4:41:08, 4:41:09]: There's like [4:41:10, 4:41:13]: Ms. uh Mr. Thomas again Thomas again, all in favor, please indicate. [4:41:14, 4:41:19]: Okay. Snaps to s good night everybody. Have a good evening. Good night.

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I'll make a motion to call the meeting to order. [0:07:07, 0:07:09]: Uh all in favor, let it be known by Sandovae. [0:07:11, 0:07:11]: I [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: No the poles. [0:07:13, 0:07:16]: I said, uh the meeting is open. [0:07:16, 0:07:17]: Uh [0:07:18, 0:07:22]: Is Mr. Doom is present? Mr. Doom is how about an invocation invo invocation from you? [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: Mr. Doomis. [0:07:27, 0:07:29]: Hello, Mr. Doomis. [0:07:31, 0:07:32]: Mr. Doomis. [0:07:33, 0:07:35]: Does not have audio capability. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: Uh [0:07:38, 0:07:38]: Okay. [0:07:39, 0:07:41]: Miss Wallace, you wanna give us an invocation? [0:07:45, 0:07:46]: Let's all bow heads. [0:07:48, 0:07:51]: Thank you, Lord, for bringing us together on this night. [0:07:51, 0:07:57]: to do the bidding for our cities and I ask you to bless all of us and our families and friends. [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: In the name of Jesus, amen. [0:07:59, 0:08:00]: Amen. [0:08:02, 0:08:04]: Pledge of allegiance. I'll lead that. [0:08:05, 0:08:08]: I fled the legions to the flag of the United States of America. [0:08:08, 0:08:14]: To the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:08:17, 0:08:19]: Uh l uh l Miss Logan. [0:08:20, 0:08:20]: Yes. [0:08:21, 0:08:23]: What about a uh roll call? [0:08:23, 0:08:26]: Okay, ask Kid Abdullah. [0:08:26, 0:08:27]: Present. [0:08:27, 0:08:29]: Shirley Wallace? [0:08:30, 0:08:31]: Present. [0:08:32, 0:08:33]: Stanley Dumas? [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: Okay, he's raising his hand. [0:08:38, 0:08:39]: Harold Dibno? [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Thibodeau. [0:08:43, 0:08:43]: Yeah. [0:08:45, 0:08:48]: I saw his name a few minutes ago. [0:08:50, 0:08:53]: We count him as present. I'll see if he rejoins us later. [0:08:54, 0:08:57]: Okay, what about Miss Nelson? Kathleen Nelson. [0:08:57, 0:08:58]: Present. [0:08:58, 0:09:00]: Okay, and David Planchin. [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: Present. Okay. [0:09:07, 0:09:09]: I believe we have a quorum. [0:09:11, 0:09:12]: Ms. Logan? [0:09:12, 0:09:15]: Yes, we have uh five of the six who responded. [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Members. [0:09:19, 0:09:22]: Um I have a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:09:26, 0:09:30]: Linda, did you make the changes on the agenda? Um I had sent you [0:09:31, 0:09:37]: concerns about about the agenda, did you make those corrections and send it back out? If you did, I did not see it. [0:09:38, 0:09:41]: I added public hearing to it. [0:09:41, 0:09:50]: Uh what what other corrections did you have? It was the corrections about my statement about um Oh, those are the meeting minutes. Yes. Yes, it did. [0:09:51, 0:09:53]: Right now we're adopting the agenda. [0:09:56, 0:09:58]: I'll motion to adopt the agenda. [0:09:59, 0:10:00]: I'll second it. [0:10:01, 0:10:04]: Uh, this has been moved by Miss Wallace, second by Mr. Platchard. [0:10:04, 0:10:07]: All those in favor let it be known by a sign of I. [0:10:07, 0:10:09]: I those opposed. [0:10:10, 0:10:14]: The eyes have it, the motion to the adopting of the agenda is accepted. [0:10:15, 0:10:18]: The uh approval of the amendments from December seventeenth. [0:10:19, 0:10:24]: Have you all had an opportunity to read those? And if so, are there any corrections or amendments to it? [0:10:25, 0:10:32]: There was a correction that had my concern about my statement about Councilman Alexander's um approaching me. [0:10:32, 0:10:36]: to vote in favor of this particular um action item. [0:10:36, 0:10:41]: But um Linda said she was gonna remove it from the [0:10:41, 0:10:45]: From the um meeting, I mean the notes for the from the previous meeting. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: But I had not received an update. [0:10:48, 0:10:49]: I re I removed it. [0:10:50, 0:10:54]: Okay. We'll accept that statement. That's correct. Any other amendments? [0:10:56, 0:11:01]: Hearing none, have a motion to uh adopt the previous minutes from December seventeenth. [0:11:02, 0:11:04]: I'm busy of that. [0:11:04, 0:11:07]: With the with the amend amendment from uh Miss Wallace. [0:11:07, 0:11:09]: I move to adopt the amended minutes. [0:11:10, 0:11:11]: Can I get a second? [0:11:12, 0:11:14]: This is Kathleen Nelson. I'll second it. [0:11:14, 0:11:20]: All right, it's been moved by Miss Wallace, second by Miss Uh Miss Nelson. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:11:21, 0:11:27]: Aye. Those opposed, ayes have it. The amendments from December seventeenth are approved. [0:11:27, 0:11:30]: I did uh excuse me, I did um resend the [0:11:30, 0:11:31]: Minutes out. [0:11:31, 0:11:34]: Yesterday, along with the the staff report and the agenda. [0:11:36, 0:11:36]: Okay. [0:11:37, 0:11:38]: We accept that. [0:11:41, 0:11:42]: New business. [0:11:47, 0:11:48]: You don't have any new business? [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: O business. [0:11:56, 0:11:57]: Ms. Logan. [0:11:58, 0:12:01]: Yes, we're gonna open Ms. Chairman, you gonna open the public hearing? [0:12:02, 0:12:05]: Or do you want me want me first read this? I think you should first read it. [0:12:06, 0:12:07]: Okay. [0:12:07, 0:12:27]: Old business rezoning case number RZ20202 deferred from the December 17, 2020 meeting. Neil Koble requests the rezoning of certain property from RA Residential Agricultural District to R3 Single Family Residential District to allow for the development of a single [0:12:27, 0:12:47]: Family residential subdivision. The property is located in land lot 29 of District 7 within the Stockbridge city limits along the southeast corner of Brandon Road and North Salem Drive. It contains 73.71 total acres, which previously consisted of five parcels. The planning commission approved the recombination. [0:12:47, 0:13:04]: of the five parcels to form just one parcel at its last meeting on December 17, 2020. This occurred via recombination plat case number RC202003, which had the same applicant as this rezoning case. [0:13:04, 0:13:22]: For the record, the parcels were as follows seven thirty two Brandon Road, that's parcel number O eight eight, O two O four, nine O. Six six six six six six six four Brandon Road, that's parcel number O eight eight hyphen O two O five O [0:13:23, 0:13:26]: And parcel at six one eight, Brandon Road. [0:13:27, 0:13:31]: That's parcel number O eight eight hyphen O two O five one O [0:13:32, 0:13:46]: A large parcel on Brandon Road with parcel number 088, hyphen 0204-9005, and a small parcel on North Salem Drive, uh parcel number 088-0204-5000. [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: Alright. [0:13:50, 0:13:53]: Uh Miss uh Logan, were there any staff comments on this? [0:13:55, 0:14:02]: I have a PowerPoint presentation. Were you gonna open a public hearing? Oh no, you I'm sorry, you're gonna open that after make a presentation. [0:14:02, 0:14:09]: I think we should hear this the the the uh staff comment first what the what they what they're recommending. [0:14:09, 0:14:10]: Okay. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: So you ready for my presentation? [0:14:13, 0:14:13]: Yes. [0:14:13, 0:14:14]: Okay. [0:14:14, 0:14:16]: So I need to share my screen. [0:14:17, 0:14:18]: Yes. [0:14:18, 0:14:19]: Okay, um [0:14:20, 0:14:22]: I don't know whether you can see that now. [0:14:23, 0:14:23]: Pardon me? [0:14:24, 0:14:27]: I have my I have my presentation open. [0:14:28, 0:14:28]: C [0:14:31, 0:14:31]: Oh [0:14:35, 0:14:37]: Click that share button that screen button at the bottom, Linda. [0:14:38, 0:14:41]: I don't not see a share button because [0:14:42, 0:14:43]: You don't see her. [0:14:44, 0:14:46]: Do not see any share button. [0:14:46, 0:14:49]: Move your mouse down close to the bottom and it'll pop up the bottom bar. [0:14:58, 0:15:02]: You see that arrow at the bottom, um Ms. Logan? Pardon me? [0:15:02, 0:15:03]: Yes, okay. [0:15:04, 0:15:08]: All right, let's see if this works. All right. Can everyone see this? [0:15:10, 0:15:11]: Not visible yet. [0:15:12, 0:15:15]: Well I clicked on the oh oh here's one more step. Here we go. [0:15:15, 0:15:16]: There we go. All right. [0:15:18, 0:15:20]: All right, how about now? Can everyone see that? [0:15:20, 0:15:21]: Yes. [0:15:21, 0:15:37]: All right, I have to move this out of the way. All right, so this is the cover uh sheet that um has a RZ202002 rezoning case from RA to R3 for proposed subdivision Brandon Road at North Salem Drive. [0:15:38, 0:15:43]: Uh some of you have seen this at the last meeting, but I've made some changes and added some new slides. [0:15:43, 0:16:00]: Here is the city's 2020 zoning map. I'm bringing this up to show the location of this property, which is here in yellow. It is at the eastern, southeastern edge of the Stockbridge city limits. [0:16:01, 0:16:11]: And here is an enlargement. This is the property right here. This is this is Brandon Road north and south. And uh North Salem Drive is here. [0:16:11, 0:16:17]: Uh we have some other subdivisions, a Clark Meadows subdivision here, Moss Point subdivision here. [0:16:18, 0:16:21]: Um this is an enlargement of the property. [0:16:21, 0:16:22]: It shows the [0:16:23, 0:16:26]: Five parcels that recently were combined. [0:16:27, 0:16:27]: No. [0:16:28, 0:16:33]: Okay, there's an aerial photo here, uh showing how it looks from above. [0:16:37, 0:16:43]: And uh some more aerial photos. These were shows the property with the previous parcels. [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: And um [0:16:45, 0:16:46]: These are all the land the [0:16:47, 0:16:50]: Tax IDs if anyone needs to look up [0:16:51, 0:16:54]: particular property that shows up on the tax assessor website. [0:16:54, 0:16:57]: And another enlargement of the site. [0:16:57, 0:17:03]: This is what the applicant submitted, the um this is the survey of a property from the the surveyor. [0:17:04, 0:17:19]: This is another aerial photo. Actually, the applicant's attorney provided this to us and that the site is here. And I know that it's tiny, but it shows all the um surrounding subdivisions. Again, Clark Meadows here across the street from the site. [0:17:19, 0:17:20]: Most point. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: Subdivision here. [0:17:22, 0:17:26]: There's a few others. The summit at Eagles Landing here. [0:17:26, 0:17:27]: Um [0:17:28, 0:17:30]: Highlands at Eagles Landing. [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: Here. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: Um [0:17:32, 0:17:33]: Crown walk. [0:17:34, 0:17:36]: And a couple others. [0:17:37, 0:17:38]: Can't can't read that. [0:17:40, 0:17:41]: Okay, let's move on. [0:17:42, 0:17:42]: Um [0:17:43, 0:17:48]: Surrounding land uses, we have scattered single family homes. Um [0:17:49, 0:17:54]: Country acre subdivision to the southeast, more single family homes, some vacant land. [0:17:55, 0:17:55]: Um [0:17:57, 0:17:59]: You're probably all familiar with the area. [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: Okay. [0:18:02, 0:18:18]: So the rezoning quest, again, the applicant is Neil Koble. Attorney is Battle Law representing him. Agent is More Bas Consulting, the traffic engineer who is with us, Mark Akampora. He prepared a traffic impact study. Developers Liberty Communities LLC. [0:18:19, 0:18:31]: The request is to rezone the subject property, include the five previous parcels from R A to R3 to allow for development subdivision. The proposed name is the reserve at Hickory Hills. [0:18:32, 0:18:48]: Okay, I just read the uh five parcels to you. Uh uh we have posted the rezoning signs. We first posted on October twenty-sixth last year. Um case was deferred a couple of times. We have posted some new signs uh recently. [0:18:50, 0:18:55]: Actually may come down here. These these are the signs. Here's the one on North Salem uh Drive. [0:18:56, 0:19:02]: And this is a one at um seven thirty two Brandon Road um near the [0:19:02, 0:19:05]: Near the uh silo. It's front of it. [0:19:06, 0:19:10]: And then uh the one further down near near Mo across from Moss Point subdivision. [0:19:12, 0:19:13]: Okay. [0:19:13, 0:19:14]: Let's see. [0:19:15, 0:19:24]: Some of this I've covered already. So again, surrounding land uses rural residential, minor agricultural, several subdivisions, some vacant land. Um [0:19:24, 0:19:33]: The surrounding zoning, we have PD in Clark Meadow Meadows. That's split between R2 and R3. Moss Point is zone R2. [0:19:33, 0:19:39]: Um we have R three around the subject property. The future landing's designation is low density residential. [0:19:40, 0:19:44]: That allows a density of one point two five to two dwelling units per acre. [0:19:45, 0:20:00]: So uh zoning history, there were no previous rezoning cases. Uh the property, the the parcel 732 Brandon Road was annexed into the city in 2004. The existing cell tower was present at that time. [0:20:01, 0:20:16]: So the applicant has proposed to rezone the property to R three, uh the single family residential. The R three allows smaller lots as part of a planned development on public sewer. Minimum lot requirements in R three are twelve thousand square feet. [0:20:16, 0:20:23]: And seventy feet uh seventy five feet wide. Minimum house size one thousand fifty square feet. [0:20:24, 0:20:29]: So this property has seventy three point seven one acres according to tax assessor record. [0:20:29, 0:20:45]: There is a floodplain near the center and a small pond which exists. North Salem Drive to the north is narrow and curvy. Let's see. So the cell tower is present. There are some rural residential, small agricultural uses. [0:20:45, 0:20:53]: The tower was built, you know, by Sprintcom and ATT ATT Colocus' equipment at the present time. [0:20:54, 0:20:56]: All right, let's move down here. [0:20:56, 0:20:57]: So [0:20:58, 0:21:18]: This latest site plan that's submitted to us, uh, this is what it looks like. There had there were a few changes. Um currently the uh proposal is to have the access to the subdivision off Brandon Road be here um toward the southwest corner of the site. [0:21:18, 0:21:23]: Uh south Sprayberry Road is right here, just for your reference. So this is south of that. [0:21:25, 0:21:27]: Um okay and [0:21:27, 0:21:40]: Let me just mention there will be a proposal to to have two amenity areas uh inside the site. One is a main central uh amenity area here and the other one will be around existing fund. [0:21:41, 0:21:44]: Here's a this is from the applicant just a [0:21:44, 0:21:49]: a general idea uh what it would look what it would look like. I have some other pictures coming up. [0:21:51, 0:21:55]: Now that this is an enlargement of the site plan. This is the entrance area. [0:21:56, 0:22:16]: And uh there will be uh tree plantings along the road and a bullet boulevard style entrance here in the front, a a monument sign, um uh acceleration and deceleration lanes or are for to be installed to facilitate left and right turns. [0:22:16, 0:22:17]: Yeah. [0:22:17, 0:22:18]: Um [0:22:19, 0:22:20]: Okay. [0:22:21, 0:22:28]: This is an enlargement of the uh this site plan data is is an enlargement of what was on the site plan. [0:22:29, 0:22:40]: up here this these boxes up here just give boxes give all the the statistics of the lot sizes and the the unit sizes um [0:22:41, 0:22:44]: So I have that summarized actually in here. [0:22:45, 0:23:05]: Uh so number of lots and homes. The current proposal is to build 139 lots and 139 homes. Um, if you recall at the last meeting, it was 147 lots and 147 homes. That has been reduced in order to allow for a large centralized uh amenity. [0:23:05, 0:23:08]: area near the center of the property. [0:23:08, 0:23:21]: Uh overall density is 1.89 dwelling units per acre. Now that compares with the the future land use designation of the property, which allows up to two units per acre. So this is within [0:23:21, 0:23:35]: uh that requirement. Now net density means um 3.09. This means after after you subtract the or to account for several uh floodplain areas that are on the property where homes cannot be built. [0:23:36, 0:23:54]: So the home size is applicants proposing to build uh 2,000 square foot homes, even though our three district allows homes that are about half that size, 1,050 square feet. So so these homes will be almost double of that of the minimum size that is required. [0:23:55, 0:24:15]: Average lot size 14,0086. And this is this is a little bit larger than the minimum requirement of 12,000 uh square feet. There are some lots that are the minimum size, however, there are about half of the lots um that would [0:24:15, 0:24:27]: would be between 15,000 and 20,000 square feet, so much larger. Now in particular, the 11 lots, there are 11 lots adjacent to Brandon Road. Let me go back here to the site plan. [0:24:28, 0:24:31]: So you can see here Brand this is Brandon Road here on the left. [0:24:31, 0:24:34]: So these lots from from here. [0:24:34, 0:24:50]: all the way up to here is ele 11 lots. So these lots here gonna be um at least 15,000 square feet. The ones here in the corner is gonna be a little bit larger. Uh let's see back back here. [0:24:51, 0:25:02]: Ah, so eleven lots and all lots will be at least seventy five feet wide and would have the following yard setbacks fifty feet in the front, ten feet at the side and forty feet in the rear. [0:25:02, 0:25:10]: Here is a new slide that I just received today. This is a diag these are diagrams comparing the lot sizes. [0:25:10, 0:25:27]: comparisons made between the proposed subdivision on Brandon Road versus what is shown um across the street in Clark Meadows. So this first diagram, I know it's small, it's hard to see, but these are [0:25:27, 0:25:28]: They um [0:25:28, 0:25:34]: Proposed a lot sizes for this subdivision and this is um [0:25:34, 0:25:42]: This is Clark Meadows across the street. And then these is this these have been superimposed on top of each other. The Clark Meadows in the [0:25:42, 0:25:45]: uh pink shaded area and the green is the [0:25:46, 0:25:48]: Uh Brandon Road subdivision. [0:25:51, 0:25:54]: Okay, so back on the uh amenities. So [0:25:55, 0:25:56]: Wow. [0:25:56, 0:26:00]: The community center, I can let me go back to [0:26:01, 0:26:02]: Yeah, there's [0:26:02, 0:26:11]: So again, these are going to be located in here, the central community center here, uh community center, amenity area, and then the pond area here. [0:26:12, 0:26:23]: Okay, so as far as the actual facilities in them, the community center minute the area would be located near the center of the site, would include a swimming pool with a shade structure. [0:26:23, 0:26:30]: pavilion an open lawn open lawn area, a walking trail, a playground, and a fire print fire pit. [0:26:31, 0:26:34]: Plus a parking lot with forty-seven parking spaces. [0:26:35, 0:26:35]: Um [0:26:37, 0:26:38]: Let me see. I thought I had [0:26:41, 0:26:41]: Oh. [0:26:42, 0:26:45]: Okay, here, in a l in enlargement of that. [0:26:45, 0:26:46]: Right here. [0:26:46, 0:26:49]: This is an enlargement and this is what what it would look like. [0:26:50, 0:26:56]: open space is it would be a grass lawn area and then these these facilities pavil pavilion [0:26:56, 0:27:00]: Fire pit fire pit, playgrounds, a pool with two thousand square feet. [0:27:00, 0:27:02]: A shade structure. [0:27:02, 0:27:06]: And it will be a parking lot here for forty-seven uh cars. [0:27:07, 0:27:13]: Okay, and then uh the pond amenity area at the southwest corner. [0:27:13, 0:27:23]: uh would include a walking trail go to toward the pond, a pavilion, and something called boche ball courts, a fire pit, and a male kiosk. [0:27:24, 0:27:25]: All right, so [0:27:26, 0:27:27]: This is what that would look like. [0:27:28, 0:27:28]: Um [0:27:29, 0:27:35]: So wetlands area, the pond, uh the oh there is a dock in the pond that would remain. [0:27:35, 0:27:41]: Uh again a pavilion fire pit pit, bochi ball courts, and a male kiosk. [0:27:41, 0:27:44]: Uh I have uh see some [0:27:44, 0:27:50]: pictures here from the applicant. Uh again, this is the central amenity cent center. Um [0:27:52, 0:27:57]: Uh these are enlargers. Buffer area buffer area at the entrance showing the planted trees. [0:27:57, 0:28:02]: These are examples of types of trees, bald cypress, cherry laurel, um [0:28:03, 0:28:09]: Cryptomeria, uh Eastern Red Cedar, and Magnolia. [0:28:10, 0:28:14]: Um and this shows the reserve at Hickory Hills, a monument sign. [0:28:16, 0:28:20]: Here's an example of what a playground would look like in the in the center of the property. [0:28:21, 0:28:25]: Uh it's an example of what a fire pit would look like. [0:28:25, 0:28:29]: And this is a bochi ball court. I was not familiar with that, but this is a [0:28:30, 0:28:33]: um, photograph that was provided to me. [0:28:33, 0:28:36]: Bocce ball, it's lawn bowling for us old timers. [0:28:36, 0:28:38]: Oh, lawn bowling? [0:28:38, 0:28:40]: Yes, or bocce ball. [0:28:41, 0:28:43]: What is the objective in this game, briefly? [0:28:45, 0:28:48]: Um, kinda like shovel board, only with round balls. [0:28:49, 0:28:49]: Okay. [0:28:50, 0:28:53]: You try to knock your other opponent out of the goal zone. [0:28:54, 0:28:55]: Okay. [0:28:56, 0:29:12]: All right. Um, so again, we received uh or not I'm sorry, I received a copy of the traffic impact study. I understand that it was presented to the community on um there's a community meeting held on on January twenty-first. [0:29:12, 0:29:19]: Uh the day after this study was completed. This is the cover page or or the the title page. [0:29:19, 0:29:23]: Uh Mark and Kampura, traffic engineer, was a [0:29:23, 0:29:25]: author, he's here with us tonight. [0:29:26, 0:29:46]: So um I I have correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Akinpora, but I I have uh summarized what I saw in the report. Um so this the study was based on the originally proposed 147 new homes. Traffic counts were taken on January 27 at this proposed subdivision entrance during morning and afternoon. [0:29:46, 0:29:55]: Afternoon peak hours. Intersection analysis were made, two intersections at Brandon Road and North Salem Drive, and Brandon Road and Sprayberry Drive. [0:29:55, 0:30:02]: There were some adjustment factors used to account for the um coronavirus pandemic and school not being open. [0:30:03, 0:30:23]: And uh consideration was made of county and state requirements, planned transportation improvements of the city and travel pattern changes in the foreseeable future due to the pandemic. Uh there was a uh noted that um funding, there was funding already approved for widening of US Highway um 23 or highway four. [0:30:23, 0:30:25]: forty two in the area. [0:30:26, 0:30:37]: Uh let's see the key findings. Existing traffic operation vicinity, the term excellent was used, uh service levels A. [0:30:37, 0:30:39]: For the I A [0:30:39, 0:30:44]: for Brandon Road and A and B for the intersection turning movements. [0:30:45, 0:30:46]: Із вот аса. [0:30:46, 0:30:52]: Traffic volume growth vicinity has been minimal in recent years. This is expected to continue. [0:30:52, 0:31:12]: Um again now this is based on 147 units in the subdivision. It would generate 109 new morning peak hour trips, 147 afternoon peak hour trips, and 1482 total daily trips. Only minor traffic increases and intersection delays are expected due to the subdivision. [0:31:12, 0:31:27]: Um now Henry County and Georgia TOT would require that acceleration decelerations lay deceleration lanes be installed at the entrance. And of course, the site plan does show that those uh would be provided provided. [0:31:28, 0:31:28]: Um [0:31:28, 0:31:36]: The study said that no other traffic improvements are needed now or in the near future after the subdivision is built, if the subdivision is built. [0:31:38, 0:31:39]: Uh let's see. [0:31:39, 0:31:45]: All right, so now we come to our staff analysis, suitability of proposed subdivision. [0:31:45, 0:31:59]: Uh it's unlikely property would develop into additional rural residential or agricultural uses due to its location. A subdivision would be a reasonable use of the property due to proximity of several other subdivisions. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: adjacent to and surrounding the property. [0:32:02, 0:32:07]: A subdivision would meet the density requirements of the property's future land use plan. [0:32:07, 0:32:11]: Now what about the suitability of the requested R three district? [0:32:12, 0:32:30]: Um the applicant will be able to develop a uh proposed subdivision on under R three if extend if extends a public sewer line to the subject property. And in fact there was a letter from Henry County uh water, uh which um water authority which uh requires that that extension of public sewer. [0:32:31, 0:32:40]: Your R three district would allow the subdivision to have lot sizes that are comparable to Clark Meadows and Moss Point subdivisions, which do have so sewer lines. [0:32:41, 0:32:52]: Okay, let's see. Suitability of site plan. It would have a s traditional design. No secondary access would be provided. This was initially considered, but um [0:32:52, 0:33:01]: due to safety hazards and the narrow curry characteristics of the road, that was eliminated. Um we did contact our um cities [0:33:01, 0:33:05]: A fire marshal who said he was fine with just one access into the property. [0:33:06, 0:33:11]: Existing pond would be preserved and used as a focal point for several amenities. [0:33:11, 0:33:25]: Applicant is proposing to build many larger lots and homes than are required in our three district. In fact, about half of the lots would have more than the minimum required required size of 12,000 square feet. [0:33:25, 0:33:31]: And eleven lots uh fronting Brand Road would have at least fifteen thousand square feet to mirror. [0:33:31, 0:33:35]: what the Clark Meadows Cell Division has across the street. [0:33:35, 0:33:42]: All of the homes would meet the minimum requirement of two thousand square feet, making them almost double the size of the R three district requirement of [0:33:42, 0:33:44]: thousand fifty square feet. [0:33:44, 0:33:54]: Impacts on adjacent properties, a fence should be installed along the northern side of the property as a protection against the adjacent rural residential and agriculture uses. [0:33:56, 0:34:16]: Impacts on public schools. So the applicant obtained a letter from Henry County Schools McDonald District Office on October 5, 2020. And it stated that uh projections for additional classroom space would be would be based on two new students per resident. This was an average. [0:34:16, 0:34:18]: And twenty five students per classroom. [0:34:18, 0:34:25]: So um uh if for the proposed 139 homes, eleven new classrooms would be needed. [0:34:25, 0:34:37]: to serve an estimated 278 new students. However, the cost of the classrooms would likely be offset by the additional school taxes that the subdivision residents would be required to pay. [0:34:38, 0:34:49]: Impacts on adjacent streets. Um again the traffic study projected excellent operations in the vicinity. Um and that turn turn lanes of course are required. [0:34:49, 0:34:55]: And uh sidewalks sh side sidewalks should be installed on at least one side of each internal street. [0:34:56, 0:35:02]: Um utilities again, the uh w water would be sufficient, but a sewer line extension is required. [0:35:04, 0:35:17]: Okay. So um staff recommendations. Um planning and zoning staff recommends approval of requests that are three district subject to the following uh conditions. Do you want me to read all these, Mr. Abdullah? [0:35:18, 0:35:18]: Um [0:35:19, 0:35:22]: So number one regarding the site plan. [0:35:22, 0:35:28]: Subdivision shall be developed in accordance with the submitted revised site plan received by City of Stockbridge. [0:35:28, 0:35:33]: Department of Community Development entitled Conceptual Site Plan Slash Brandon Road Track. [0:35:34, 0:35:46]: comprising sheet number one point one, which was prepared by Morebast Consulting on December fourth, twenty twenty, which uh comprises the second revision on February 17th. [0:35:47, 0:35:53]: twenty twenty one after the first res revision was repaired on January fifteenth, twenty twenty one. [0:35:53, 0:35:58]: Said plan is conceptual only and must meet or exceed the requirements of the zoning resolution. [0:35:59, 0:36:01]: And these conditions prior to the approval of a land. [0:36:02, 0:36:03]: A disturbance permit. [0:36:04, 0:36:09]: In the event that the recommended conditions of zoning cause the approved site plan to be substantially different. [0:36:10, 0:36:13]: The applicant shall be required to complete the concept review procedure. [0:36:14, 0:36:16]: prior to application for a land disturbance permit. [0:36:17, 0:36:19]: Unless otherwise noted herein [0:36:20, 0:36:25]: Compliance with all conditions shall be in place prior to the issuance of the first certificate of occupancy. [0:36:26, 0:36:39]: So uh number two, second condition, uh number two regarding the subdivision design, a the developer shall construct an off-site sanitary sewer line extension to the property at the developer's expense. [0:36:39, 0:36:42]: In cooperation with the Hindu County Water and Suit Authority. [0:36:42, 0:36:47]: This may require that the developer acquire any needed easements, also at the developer's expense. [0:36:48, 0:36:53]: B the subdivision entrance from Brandon Road Road shall be located south of Spray Brake Drive. [0:36:54, 0:37:02]: It shall be boulevard style with monument signage located outside of the public right away. Such signage shall incorporate a water feature in its design. [0:37:02, 0:37:13]: C, the developer shall construct acceleration and deceleration lanes and sidewalks at the entrance to the subdivision in compliance with Henry County and Georgia DOT specifications. [0:37:15, 0:37:21]: Next slide D, the developer shall comply with all requirements of the city's subdivision ordinance. [0:37:21, 0:37:26]: E a maximum of one hundred thirty nine lots and a hundred thirty nine single family detached homes. [0:37:27, 0:37:28]: shall be constructed on the property. [0:37:29, 0:37:34]: F all lots that are located adjacent to Brandon Road shall have at least fifteen thousand square feet. [0:37:35, 0:37:41]: G, a homeowners association shall be established or a property management company shall be secured. [0:37:41, 0:37:44]: For the purpose of maintaining all common areas of the site. [0:37:45, 0:37:49]: So uh the third condition regarding landscape design [0:37:49, 0:37:53]: A a fence which is wooden or vinyl coated chain link. [0:37:53, 0:37:57]: shall be constructed along the northern boundary of the property. [0:37:57, 0:38:02]: B a minimum of twenty percent of the site shall be preserved as open space. [0:38:02, 0:38:07]: The existing floodplain area, pond, and other open space areas shall be preserved. [0:38:07, 0:38:12]: And they shall include walking paths that are constructed of pervious materials. [0:38:12, 0:38:22]: C, the subdivision shall contain both a community center amenity area near the center of the site and a pond amenity center which encompasses the existing pond. [0:38:23, 0:38:38]: D, the proposed community center amenity area shall include a minimum of the filing amenities, a two thousand square foot swimming pool with a shade structure, a pavilion, an open lawn, a walking trail, a playground, and a fire pit fire pit. [0:38:38, 0:38:41]: Plus a parking lot with forty seven parking spaces. [0:38:42, 0:38:51]: E. The proposed pond amenity area shall include a minimum of the following amenities, a walking trail, a pavilion, boche ball courts, [0:38:51, 0:38:56]: parentheses or a similar type of act active recre aggregational facility. [0:38:57, 0:39:02]: A fire pit and a central mail kiosk with a vehic vehicle pull off area. [0:39:03, 0:39:08]: Next slide F the proposed amenities shall be installed or constructed. [0:39:08, 0:39:10]: After fifty percent of the [0:39:11, 0:39:17]: Dwelling units have been constructed and before any land disturbance permits are issued for the development of additional lots. [0:39:17, 0:39:30]: G, the developer shall provide a minimum fifty-foot-wide buffer around the perimeter of the property boundary, with the exception of areas that are required for access or utility connections. [0:39:30, 0:39:33]: H the developer shall provide a landscaping plan. [0:39:33, 0:39:39]: Which shall comply with the requirements of the city city's landscaping buffers and tree protection ordinance. [0:39:40, 0:39:47]: I sidewalks that are at least four feet wide shall be installed along at least one side of each internal subdivision street. [0:39:48, 0:39:51]: J all disturbed areas of the residential lot shall be sodded. [0:39:52, 0:39:55]: Except for areas where landscaping is present or installed. [0:39:55, 0:40:03]: And and condition number four regarding architectural design: A, all homes shall have a two-car garage at a minimum. [0:40:04, 0:40:13]: All homes shall have a minimum of 2,000 square feet of heated space. C. All homes shall have brick exteriors on all four sides. [0:40:13, 0:40:22]: D, all homes shall have exteriors which further comply with the architectural standards of city ordinance number OR one eight hyphen four five two. [0:40:25, 0:40:40]: Okay, and condition number five regarding procedural matters. A the applicant or developer shall submit a subdivision application for review and approval by the Planning Commission after the rezoning of the property is approved. [0:40:41, 0:40:53]: B, an official subdivision plaque shall be approved by the city and recorded with the Henry County Superior Court before any land disturbance or billing permits may be issued by the city to develop the subdivision. [0:40:53, 0:40:54]: And see, he [0:40:54, 0:41:14]: In compliance with section 12.12.003A of the city's zoning code, expirate which is known as expiration of approvals, the zoning classification of the property may revert back to RA or to some other zoning classification after a period of 18 months. [0:41:14, 0:41:27]: If the mayor and city council chooses, if substantial progress has not been achieved in the construction of the subdivision whereby the first inspection is carried out. And that was my last slide. [0:41:32, 0:41:33]: Any questions? [0:41:39, 0:41:40]: This is Dave Planchon. [0:41:42, 0:41:47]: There are a couple of questions I have that I didn't see answered in here. The first one is regarding utilities. [0:41:48, 0:41:53]: Is it going to be an all electric subdivision or are they going to also bring in natural gas? [0:41:55, 0:42:00]: Also, are the utilities going to be underground or like power lines gonna be overhead? [0:42:01, 0:42:06]: I have not heard about that. Maybe the applicant or Miss Bell can answer that. [0:42:09, 0:42:29]: Good evening, Michelle Battle with Battle Law, One West Court Square, Decatur, Georgia, 30030. To my knowledge, the um utilities will be um underground. Um, if that is uh different, um Steve Moore um is on the line and can correct me on that. Um with regards to I think you're you're [0:42:29, 0:42:36]: Your first question was the utilities being underground. And I I must confess I don't remember the second one. [0:42:37, 0:42:41]: If it will be an all electric community or electric and natural gas. [0:42:41, 0:42:42]: Um [0:42:43, 0:42:57]: I will have to add let Steve answer that. I was gonna assume that it would be um electric, but um Steve Michelle, Michelle, this is Jane Strickland, yeah. It's uh all utilities will be underground and it it will be in all electric uh development. [0:42:58, 0:42:59]: Right. Thank you, Jane. [0:42:59, 0:43:04]: Yes, ma'am. Okay. The next question I have is regarding the pond. [0:43:05, 0:43:12]: Um re um and how the water is fed into the pond and what is used, what's the method of retaining the water in the pond? [0:43:15, 0:43:18]: Um my name is Steve Moore with Moor Bass Consulting. Uh [0:43:19, 0:43:26]: The pond right now is uh based on the topography and our review is spring fed currently. [0:43:26, 0:43:28]: Um so we would [0:43:28, 0:43:48]: Basically, our plan is to not touch the pond with any construction other than what's associated with the amenity. We've like the dock that was shown on the exhibit that Ms. Logan showed. Um, but short of that, we don't plan on any development around the lake and we'll apply all appropriate road control measures to protect the lake to [0:43:48, 0:43:58]: keep it clean during construction and after construction. But the plan is to leave the lake in its natural state, both in the way it receives water and releases water. [0:43:59, 0:44:19]: And we're not going to add water to it. Did you say it was spring fed? It based on the topography, that's what it appears. There's not a live stream that feeds because if it if it's flow fed um off of the surrounding elevated land, changing the the land with uh you know asphalt driveway pavement is going to change the flow into it. I just [0:44:19, 0:44:28]: Just don't want it to flood I E dry up because the the supply goes away. Understood. No, uh we would there there is uh [0:44:29, 0:44:40]: There uh we'll have all of our stormwater, any stormwater that's generated from our development will be collected in the streets, in a piping system and moved away from that lake to another to another uh area. [0:44:40, 0:44:40]: Okay. [0:44:42, 0:44:43]: Very good. [0:44:44, 0:44:46]: Uh, I have a question on your traffic study. [0:44:47, 0:44:47]: Um [0:44:48, 0:44:48]: Uh [0:44:48, 0:44:58]: We'd be happy to answer any questions. I did have a presentation or at least some statements I wanted to make, but are we doing just answering questions now and then I'll do my presentation later? [0:44:58, 0:45:00]: I just want to make sure I'm understanding. [0:45:00, 0:45:01]: How we're gonna proceed. [0:45:02, 0:45:02]: Mm. [0:45:03, 0:45:04]: That would be up to the chairman. [0:45:07, 0:45:07]: Okay. [0:45:07, 0:45:07]: Go ahead. [0:45:09, 0:45:13]: Sorry. Uh the the traffic study, uh the guy was supposed to be standing by for that. [0:45:14, 0:45:18]: I I would like for him to talk about the traffic study. [0:45:19, 0:45:19]: And [0:45:20, 0:45:24]: What did encompass and what actually did he do for a traffic study? [0:45:24, 0:45:26]: And how many days? [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: At least study for that. [0:45:31, 0:45:31]: Can you hear me? [0:45:32, 0:45:34]: This is Mark Akampora. Yeah, I can hear you. [0:45:35, 0:45:38]: Okay. Yes, I'm the traffic engineer who did the traffic study. [0:45:39, 0:45:40]: Um [0:45:40, 0:45:44]: This the procedure I followed is a pretty standard procedure. [0:45:44, 0:45:51]: Um to do traffic impact studies just to give you a little bit of background of me f first of all. I've been practicing traffic engineering. [0:45:51, 0:46:09]: in Georgia for a little over thirty years. I've done about 1,700 of these type of traffic studies in Georgia. I am a professional engineer in the state of Georgia and this is what my business is. I've been in business on my own uh for a little over nineteen years. [0:46:09, 0:46:12]: Um and I'm located in midtown Atlanta, Georgia. [0:46:13, 0:46:16]: The the traffic study is done according to um [0:46:17, 0:46:22]: traffic engineering standards, both internationally and nationally accepted standards and also those accepted [0:46:23, 0:46:36]: uh by Georgia DOT and by Henry County. I didn't find any separate or different City of Stockbridge traffic engineering study requirements that were different than Henry County. So I followed those standards. [0:46:36, 0:46:37]: Um [0:46:37, 0:46:39]: The traffic study included doing [0:46:39, 0:46:42]: intersection turning movement counts. [0:46:42, 0:46:45]: during the morning and evening peak time periods. [0:46:45, 0:46:50]: The counts in the morning were done from seven o'clock in the morning till nine o'clock in the morning. [0:46:51, 0:46:56]: in the aft or in the evening they were done from four o'clock PM to six o'clock PM. [0:46:56, 0:47:00]: Um and then from those two hour count p each [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: count two hour count period. [0:47:02, 0:47:06]: I compiled the four highest fifteen minute intervals. [0:47:06, 0:47:08]: in each time period to identify [0:47:08, 0:47:12]: the peak hour, which is the single highest out one hour. [0:47:12, 0:47:15]: In the morning in the single highest one hour. [0:47:15, 0:47:17]: in the evening period. [0:47:17, 0:47:21]: I also did a twenty four hour bi directional traffic count. [0:47:21, 0:47:23]: On Brandon Road. [0:47:23, 0:47:25]: There is a Georgia D O T [0:47:25, 0:47:29]: Um traffic count station on Brandon Road, not far from here. [0:47:29, 0:47:31]: Uh I I [0:47:31, 0:47:35]: Obtain the Georgia DOT historic ta traffic count data. [0:47:35, 0:47:37]: At that traffic count station. [0:47:38, 0:47:43]: from twenty fifteen through twenty nineteen, which is the last year that that data's available. [0:47:44, 0:47:47]: All of the DOT traffic count data obviously then is [0:47:47, 0:47:49]: pre pandemic. [0:47:49, 0:47:50]: I compared [0:47:50, 0:47:54]: the twenty four hour count that I did for this study [0:47:54, 0:47:57]: With the twenty nineteen traffic count. [0:47:57, 0:48:01]: uh Georgia DOT traffic count and the counts before that. [0:48:01, 0:48:03]: And comparing the two. [0:48:03, 0:48:05]: I identified [0:48:05, 0:48:09]: And applied a twenty five percent adjustment increase. [0:48:09, 0:48:12]: adjustment to the tra turning movement traffic counts. [0:48:12, 0:48:18]: that I had counted for the study, which would offset any drop in traffic volumes. [0:48:18, 0:48:19]: that was seen [0:48:20, 0:48:24]: Um between the traffic counts and the historic Georgia DOT traffic counts. [0:48:25, 0:48:26]: I took those counts. [0:48:27, 0:48:30]: Um and I ran an operational analysis. [0:48:30, 0:48:38]: I I and again I could go into as much detail as you want. I'll just kind of keep it as an overview, but I'll get as technical as you'd like me to. [0:48:38, 0:48:41]: I did an operational analysis using synchro software. [0:48:42, 0:48:46]: the high r high rate capacity manual methodology, which are the standard procedures. [0:48:47, 0:48:50]: that are recognized by Georgia D O T and Henry County. [0:48:51, 0:48:54]: Um again that I did not identify any separate or different [0:48:55, 0:48:57]: standards to be used by the city of Stockbridge. [0:48:57, 0:48:59]: The analysis at [0:48:59, 0:49:05]: the intersections. I y I I evaluated Brandon Road at North Salem and at Sprayberry. [0:49:06, 0:49:10]: and the levels of service, the intersection. Each intersection gets a level of service. [0:49:11, 0:49:15]: for each approach or controlled movement and the overall intersection. [0:49:15, 0:49:20]: In the morning peak hour, all of the levels of service were level of service A. [0:49:20, 0:49:26]: And a level of service to to take a step back as like a letter grade comparable to the letter grades in school. [0:49:26, 0:49:34]: So a level of service A is excellent, but very low delay. And then there's a B, C, D, E, and F. And typically E and F. [0:49:35, 0:49:38]: are considered unacceptable A, B, C, and D. [0:49:38, 0:49:40]: are considered in the acceptable range. [0:49:41, 0:49:42]: At these intersections. [0:49:42, 0:49:46]: All of the levels of service were level of service A in the morning. [0:49:47, 0:49:49]: And in the afternoon it was a mix of A's and B's. [0:49:50, 0:49:52]: So the operations were considered. [0:49:52, 0:49:53]: Exac excellent. [0:49:54, 0:49:54]: Um [0:49:55, 0:50:04]: And then I I then added the traffic that's generated by that will be generated by this project. And I did use the one hundred and forty seven homes. [0:50:04, 0:50:05]: Um [0:50:06, 0:50:10]: And I in order to determine how much traffic the project will generate, I used [0:50:11, 0:50:15]: standard Institute of Transportation Engineers trip generation. [0:50:15, 0:50:21]: Um those are rates and and equations that are developed by counting comparable subdivisions. [0:50:21, 0:50:23]: Throughout the United States. [0:50:23, 0:50:27]: I took that data, I applied it to the hundred and forty seven. [0:50:27, 0:50:30]: originally proposed homes which [0:50:30, 0:50:32]: From that I identified [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: The morning highest [0:50:34, 0:50:36]: Entering and exiting traffic volumes. [0:50:36, 0:50:40]: the after the evening highest entering exiting traffic volumes. [0:50:40, 0:50:43]: and the twenty four hour entering entering and exiting traffic vibe. [0:50:44, 0:50:45]: I assign those trips. [0:50:46, 0:50:48]: to the project access. [0:50:48, 0:50:50]: And to [0:50:50, 0:50:52]: The um the two counted intersections. [0:50:53, 0:50:53]: Um [0:50:54, 0:50:57]: add I added those then to the original count. [0:50:57, 0:50:59]: And then re ran the analysis. [0:51:00, 0:51:03]: And the analysis showed and and let me just interject one other piece. [0:51:03, 0:51:07]: Typically there's also a no build analysis. [0:51:07, 0:51:11]: What I would typically do is apply a growth factor. [0:51:11, 0:51:13]: to the counted volumes. [0:51:13, 0:51:19]: for certain years, typically for a subdivision like this, I would extrapolate out about five years into the future. [0:51:19, 0:51:23]: And then and then do an analysis without the subdivision. [0:51:23, 0:51:25]: And then add the subdivision trips. [0:51:25, 0:51:27]: In this particular case. [0:51:27, 0:51:31]: In my traffic study I identified that the historic [0:51:31, 0:51:41]: growth trend on Brandon Road was between twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen was negative six point eight percent. And that's all pre-pandemic. That is not [0:51:42, 0:51:45]: including the adjustment factor that I applied for the pandemic. [0:51:46, 0:51:48]: So there was a negative six point eight percent. [0:51:48, 0:51:52]: uh decreasing volume and the last year of growth [0:51:52, 0:51:58]: from the Georgia DOT counts from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen was a flat zero point zero percent. [0:51:58, 0:52:09]: And so considering that the historic trend was negative and the last year was zero, I did not apply a background growth factor to count for other growth and development in the area. [0:52:09, 0:52:11]: Um based on that historic trend. [0:52:12, 0:52:12]: Um [0:52:13, 0:52:21]: And I will add this, there is a lot of ample remaining capacity on these roads. So even if there are other small projects that are being developed. [0:52:21, 0:52:22]: in the area. [0:52:23, 0:52:24]: D these roads are [0:52:25, 0:52:28]: uh currently operating very well under capacity. [0:52:29, 0:52:30]: So in any case, I [0:52:31, 0:52:34]: Um added the project's traffic to the counted intersections. [0:52:34, 0:52:36]: And also to the [0:52:36, 0:52:37]: Um [0:52:37, 0:52:39]: Entrance to the project. [0:52:39, 0:52:43]: And then I re ran that operational analysis. [0:52:43, 0:52:46]: And as with the existing condition. [0:52:46, 0:52:59]: Um all of the levels of steps service were excellent. They were all there remained all level of service A's in the morning and in the afternoon or evening there were all a mix of levels of service A and level of service B. [0:52:59, 0:53:02]: I did one other additional analysis. [0:53:03, 0:53:04]: And that is to determine the [0:53:05, 0:53:09]: Requirements for left and right turn lanes on Brandon Road. [0:53:09, 0:53:11]: to serve the project access. [0:53:11, 0:53:22]: Henry County Code. I I again I did not see a specific section. I did research the City of Stockbridge ordinances. Um the Sto Stockbridge ordinances referred to [0:53:22, 0:53:27]: Um Georgia DOT and Henry County regulations as best as I could find. [0:53:27, 0:53:30]: Therefore I use the Henry County [0:53:30, 0:53:33]: Unified land development code. [0:53:33, 0:53:35]: То ран май аналізис. [0:53:35, 0:53:43]: The unit the Henry County Code requires for a subdivision given these circumstances, type of road, type of project, size of project. [0:53:43, 0:53:46]: There the the county code requires [0:53:46, 0:53:51]: A northbound deceleration lane on Brandon Road. [0:53:51, 0:53:58]: The Henry County Code then requ refers to the Georgia DOT regulations for driveway and encroachment control. [0:53:58, 0:54:01]: to identify if left turn lanes are required. [0:54:01, 0:54:06]: So I then use the Georgia DOT left turn lane standards as set forth. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: And their regulations for drive land control. [0:54:09, 0:54:21]: Encroachment control, which we typically refer to as the driveway manual, latest version, um revision five point zero. I did that analysis and identified that a southbound left turn lane. [0:54:21, 0:54:25]: was or is will be required for this project. [0:54:25, 0:54:29]: Um and therefore my traffic study recommended based on that analysis. [0:54:29, 0:54:32]: that a northbound right turn lane and a southbound left turn lane. [0:54:33, 0:54:36]: be added on Brandon Road to serve the project. [0:54:36, 0:54:38]: I also recommend that the project have [0:54:38, 0:54:44]: one outbound lane and one inbound lane and that the outbound lane beside street stops are controlled. [0:54:45, 0:54:51]: Um, and that's the extent of my recommendations. I'd be happy to answer any specific technical questions besides that. [0:54:52, 0:54:56]: I ha I have a a couple of questions and I'm gonna keep it plain. [0:54:56, 0:54:58]: And simple. Now we both are engineers. I'm a [0:54:59, 0:55:02]: Licensed third class power engineer for the state of Georgia. [0:55:03, 0:55:05]: Uh my expertise is not in your field. [0:55:06, 0:55:08]: Minds is in facility. [0:55:09, 0:55:14]: And I I listen to everything you say, but but I wanna keep it plain where other people can understand. [0:55:15, 0:55:18]: what you're saying and I'm gonna put these two questions to you. [0:55:19, 0:55:22]: How many days did you do the study? That's number one. [0:55:24, 0:55:26]: Excuse me. And did you do any studies? [0:55:27, 0:55:29]: On the weekends and Fridays. [0:55:31, 0:55:36]: Um, so to answer the second question first, no. I did not do weekends or Fridays. [0:55:36, 0:55:41]: Standards for traffic impact studies are to do weekdays. [0:55:41, 0:55:56]: And we typically count on a Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday. I did the counts on one day and then like I said, I did the twenty-four hour count for twenty-four hour period and I compared those with the Georgia DOT traffic counts. [0:55:56, 0:55:58]: That were also on Brandon Road. [0:55:58, 0:56:12]: So I could see how my counts compared to those typical conditions in the Georgia DOT counts. And I did apply an adjustment factor, an increase of twenty-five percent from the counts to adjust my counts. [0:56:12, 0:56:15]: to the Georgia DOT counts, which would [0:56:15, 0:56:16]: somewhat offset. [0:56:17, 0:56:26]: any pandemic or anything like that. We did we typically don't do a Friday or weekend counts because typically the AM and PM weekdays [0:56:26, 0:56:29]: are the time periods of the highest impact. [0:56:29, 0:56:31]: We will do different time periods. [0:56:31, 0:56:40]: For different types of development. For example, if I'm doing a shopping center, I'll I'll typically do a Saturday afternoon peak. If I'm doing a church, [0:56:40, 0:56:48]: I'll do a Sunday morning. So it depends on the type of development, but for residential subdivisions, the time that they generate and have the highest impact. [0:56:49, 0:56:51]: typically consistent with the time of the roads. [0:56:52, 0:56:59]: peaking, which is typically that seven to nine o'clock in the morning on a weekday and four o'clock to six o'clock on a weekday. [0:56:59, 0:57:03]: Did we did we compensate for the school being out? [0:57:05, 0:57:09]: traveling that road. Well and and the traffic on Friday is totally different. [0:57:10, 0:57:12]: From the weekday traffic. [0:57:12, 0:57:13]: Are you aware of that? [0:57:14, 0:57:20]: Well th yes. That fr traffic generally on Friday afternoons is [0:57:20, 0:57:27]: a little bit different. Um and depending on the location, that sometimes is the single worst time of day. [0:57:27, 0:57:31]: Uh I'm not sure if that's true on necessarily on Brandon Road. Um [0:57:32, 0:57:37]: And if it is, I could uh you know, if there's some unusual thing that's happening on Brandon Road on a [0:57:38, 0:57:43]: on a Friday or some other time period, I'd be happy to listen to what that might be. But [0:57:43, 0:57:46]: Like I said, typically the morning. [0:57:46, 0:57:54]: Two hours captured from seven to nine captures the worst time period of a morning a weekday morning and and [0:57:55, 0:57:57]: The other thing is you don't necessarily wanna [0:57:58, 0:58:03]: Analyze and design the absolute worst to give a general non technical answer, but [0:58:03, 0:58:18]: You d we don't design shopping mall parking lots for and pandemic changed all this anyway, but for the day after Thanksgiving, because that would mean that three hundred and sixty days of the year, there'd be a lot of extra asphalt that would just remain empty. [0:58:19, 0:58:19]: And so [0:58:20, 0:58:23]: The standard is not to look at the absolute worst. [0:58:23, 0:58:24]: In this case. [0:58:25, 0:58:28]: We generally are capturing the absolute worst. [0:58:28, 0:58:32]: Now if there's an atypical condition on a Friday that I'm unaware of. [0:58:32, 0:58:36]: I'd be happy to hear that and and address that if that's appropriate. [0:58:36, 0:58:44]: But typically and and from my understanding of of how here, those morning and a evening, weekday time periods. [0:58:44, 0:58:45]: should capture [0:58:45, 0:58:47]: And and let me and let me add one other thing. [0:58:47, 0:58:51]: We're operating here at level of service A and level of service B. [0:58:52, 0:58:52]: Which is [0:58:53, 0:58:55]: B it's excellent. [0:58:55, 0:58:56]: Yeah, so [0:58:56, 0:59:00]: E even honestly, and I'm gonna throw out a number that just [0:59:00, 0:59:01]: If if the traffic [0:59:01, 0:59:06]: doubled out there, I still think you'd be an acceptable traffic operations. [0:59:06, 0:59:08]: So I would be very surprised. [0:59:08, 0:59:14]: Mm, maybe you'll surprise me if traffic volumes on other time periods were more [0:59:14, 0:59:17]: than double the peak time periods that I counted. [0:59:18, 0:59:18]: But [0:59:18, 0:59:21]: You you really have enough capacity to double those volumes. [0:59:22, 0:59:27]: [3567.3, 3572.4]: an additional new lane being added on Brandon Road at the access. [0:59:32, 0:59:36]: to serve the left turning and right turning traffic turning into the project. [0:59:37, 0:59:42]: Now I understand some of the basics of what you're talking about, but what you're gonna have to do is keep it [0:59:42, 0:59:44]: On a level that to communicate. [0:59:44, 0:59:47]: The community can understand what you're talking about. [0:59:48, 0:59:51]: And the problem I'm gonna say again on Friday. [0:59:52, 0:59:54]: in the weekends it's questionable. [0:59:54, 0:59:56]: But I would like for the community [0:59:57, 0:59:59]: To let them tell you. [0:59:59, 1:00:01]: what the traffic is like. [1:00:01, 1:00:03]: I don't live out there. I've been out there. [1:00:04, 1:00:05]: And I know [1:00:05, 1:00:07]: The traffic is terrible. [1:00:07, 1:00:09]: on Fridays in the weekend. [1:00:10, 1:00:14]: So when you talking about getting a accurate account of what's going on. [1:00:15, 1:00:17]: I wouldn't agree with you because [1:00:18, 1:00:22]: If I was living over there and I'm trying to get to my house on Fridays and and the weekends. [1:00:24, 1:00:26]: That's a whole different story from [1:00:26, 1:00:30]: The times and the dates that you expressing to me. [1:00:30, 1:00:32]: What you do as far as [1:00:32, 1:00:34]: Traffic evaluation. [1:00:35, 1:00:45]: Can I ask you this? Is the traffic bad on Friday on Brandon Road? Or are you just talking about in general on [1:00:45, 1:00:51]: On the busy thoroughly. The traffic is bad. Everybody's trying to get home. It's bumper to bumper. [1:00:51, 1:00:54]: Uh, that's why I asked you those questions, because [1:00:55, 1:01:00]: you're dealing with a uh area that's nice at the time that you're doing your evaluation. [1:01:01, 1:01:03]: But I would like for you to hear from the community. [1:01:04, 1:01:07]: In terms of what I'm saying to you right now. [1:01:07, 1:01:11]: they may be expressing the same concern as what I'm speaking about. [1:01:13, 1:01:20]: Sure. Well I I would I welcome any feedback on that. And if there's if there's some other condition or time period. [1:01:20, 1:01:24]: Where there is a problem, remember, my study is on Brandon Road, so [1:01:25, 1:01:37]: I understand that roads might get congested, you know, you know, down near the interchanges at I seventy five or something like that. But I if the question is if is there's an a problem [1:01:37, 1:01:50]: at another time period on Brandon Road that I might be missing, some other period of congestion or some unusual activity. Typically I look to see what's around there that might cause some other type of [1:01:50, 1:01:51]: problem that [1:01:52, 1:01:56]: should be addressed, but I I welcome any feedback from the neighborhood. [1:01:56, 1:01:59]: Um if if there's some other time period that [1:02:00, 1:02:01]: should be should be looked at. [1:02:02, 1:02:05]: I think they'll be on they'll be on it uh on with us. [1:02:06, 1:02:08]: So I think that's the time to hear from them. [1:02:09, 1:02:11]: Well okay. Well well first of all [1:02:11, 1:02:18]: Let's let's let's uh I believe Miss Logan has uh already presented what the staff uh opinion is. [1:02:19, 1:02:24]: And we might as well open it up to uh the community to the community to see hear what they had to say. [1:02:25, 1:02:28]: uh with reference to this uh zoning matter. [1:02:30, 1:02:43]: Uh Mr. Abdullah, is it will the applicant be able to make their statement? Because we haven't been able to make our our presentation. It's been in and out. So why don't we do this? Let's stop right here, let the applicant make their presentation and then we'll pick up with the community. [1:02:43, 1:02:46]: Thank you. I appreciate that. All right, go ahead. [1:02:46, 1:03:06]: Yes. Again, Michelle Battle with Battle Law, One West Court Square, Decatur, Georgia, 30030. At the last meeting that we had, there were quite a few people with a quite a few issues and challenges that we had with regards to this project. And we took those issues very seriously. We went back and had two [1:03:06, 1:03:26]: community meetings um in order uh to um work towards addressing the issues that have been raised. Um what you saw from the revisions to the site plan, and I would um I I wanna ask Linda right now, well actually I will. Linda, if you wouldn't mind putting your PowerPoint back up, there are a couple of slides that I would like to emphasize. [1:03:26, 1:03:46]: With regards to the things that we modified since the last we spoke to you all, we went back, we revisited the site plan. There were some issues with regards to amenity areas. We also addressed issues with regards to product type. [1:03:46, 1:04:06]: And we also addressed the issues with regards to traffic. With regards to the number of units, we went from 147 units to 139 lots. And we did that in part to allow us to expand the amenity package for the project, but also [1:04:06, 1:04:26]: Also, we wanted to make it clear that we were willing to make compromise with regards to this development. We also wanted to make sure that we were in line with the two communities that are within the city limits of Stockbridge that have frontage on Brandon. [1:04:26, 1:04:46]: And Road, which would be Moss Point, and the Clark Meadows community. Clark Meadows is the closest in alignment with what we are proposing for development on this site. And we thought that it was imperative that we look and at the [1:04:46, 1:05:06]: The development of the Clark Meadows community, particularly in light of the fact that 14 of those homes were developed at an R2 standard, but the balance of the 142 homes located within that community were developed under R three standards, although [1:05:06, 1:05:26]: The entirety of the project at that time was zoned plan development, which is a discontinued land use designation or zoning designation in the city. So in fact, the majority of the Clark Meadows community is actually zoned R3. [1:05:26, 1:05:41]: When we looked at and did the comparison to uh the Clark Metals project, there were some um differences that we wanted to point out. And Linda, can you please put your if if you can't put your screen back up, I can at least put I I have it up right now. Um [1:05:43, 1:05:44]: Let me see. [1:05:44, 1:05:50]: Arrow at the bottom of the page. Uh put put your mouse in. I didn't know that it got disconnected. Can you see that now? [1:05:51, 1:05:52]: Um it's coming up. [1:05:53, 1:05:58]: Okay. Um so if we can go to [1:05:59, 1:06:02]: your slide ten. Let's start there. [1:06:02, 1:06:05]: Slide ten. Okay, let's go back up here. [1:06:10, 1:06:11]: This one. [1:06:12, 1:06:12]: Dan. [1:06:13, 1:06:14]: That's ten. [1:06:14, 1:06:21]: It's coming, I guess. Just click on it one more time. There you go. There you go, right there. Ten. Uh all right. Um [1:06:22, 1:06:25]: Gotcha. Linda, right at the top of your screen it says slideshow. [1:06:27, 1:06:31]: Um if you see that at the top there, can you go to s where it says slideshow? [1:06:31, 1:06:32]: Oh [1:06:33, 1:06:35]: I don't see that. In the banner. [1:06:35, 1:06:36]: The banner at the top. [1:06:37, 1:06:40]: I see the banner at the top, but it doesn't say slideshow. [1:06:41, 1:06:55]: Um okay, I'll I'll live with what we've got. It's it's you can yeah, you can enlarge it so that it would be larger if you click on if you click on slideshow right after out on beneath the brown banner at the top. [1:06:56, 1:06:58]: It says home. [1:06:58, 1:07:01]: Insert design transitions and then slideshow. [1:07:01, 1:07:06]: No, I think Miss Battle wants to uh enlarge that photo for clarity's sake. [1:07:06, 1:07:08]: I understand, but I I don't see any of those [1:07:09, 1:07:10]: On your actual power point. [1:07:11, 1:07:13]: On the PowerPoint, okay. [1:07:13, 1:07:15]: Up top. Very top. [1:07:15, 1:07:16]: Oh, okay on the [1:07:16, 1:07:17]: Orange bar. [1:07:18, 1:07:19]: Just below the orange bar. [1:07:20, 1:07:23]: Right. There's a a you can click on it where it says slideshow. [1:07:27, 1:07:30]: Hmm. Oh, okay. All right here. [1:07:31, 1:07:36]: Okay. Click on slideshow. And from the beginning. From beginning. [1:07:36, 1:07:41]: From beginning. And and you actually hit where it says from current slide. Yeah. From current slide. [1:07:42, 1:07:42]: Right. [1:07:42, 1:07:44]: From crunch. Oops. Yeah, the second one. [1:07:45, 1:07:46]: Wait, it went on. [1:07:46, 1:07:47]: I don't know what happened. [1:07:48, 1:07:49]: You're still there. [1:07:49, 1:08:04]: Yeah, but this is too big. Okay. Okay. Nope. That's fine. Just keep just keep going. Just slide down to the next slide. There's a little thing at the bottom where you can click and it'll move it to the next slide. Oh, I'm just no, I'm just scrolling my map. There you there you go. Keep scrolling. All right. Is this the one you want? [1:08:05, 1:08:09]: Uh n next one. Keep going. The next one. Keep going. Keep going. [1:08:10, 1:08:11]: I'll tell you when to stop. Just keep going. [1:08:15, 1:08:18]: That one. There you go. Okay. Okay. [1:08:18, 1:08:19]: No, go back. [1:08:19, 1:08:20]: Mm-hmm. [1:08:21, 1:08:24]: What what what kind of slide are you looking for? [1:08:24, 1:08:35]: Yeah, I wanted the slide that showed the aerial with the wording on it, which was slide ten. You you've moved well past slide ten now. Yeah, this one right here. [1:08:36, 1:08:37]: This is slide ten. [1:08:38, 1:08:38]: Mm. [1:08:39, 1:08:47]: No, that's uh that one. That one right there is what I've seen. That's what I thought. Aerial photo aerial photo of surrounding subdivisions. [1:08:48, 1:09:08]: That's it. There you go. It it just popped on my screen late. Okay. So when we look at um the aerial, what you'll see here is the Clark Meadows subdivision um has a minimum lot width of 60 feet on its lots. The minimum lot area is 7,260 square feet. Um [1:09:08, 1:09:28]: The lot frontage, the ones that have frontage that are actually at the R2 designation are 15,000 square foot lots with a minimum of 75 foot wide. And you know what's interesting about Clark Meadows is that [1:09:28, 1:09:48]: That in comparison to what we are proposing, and I think that you know there's been uh clearly a desire by this community um to up the ante. It's not to simply re-umestablish what has already been done, but to actually move up a level. Um, we believe that we have done that. Um, we have duplicated some of the things that [1:09:48, 1:10:02]: they um have within their community, but we have also um in um improved in our opinion some of the things that they have in their community. And Linda, I I hate to ask you, but it may be easier. Would it be possible for me to just share my screen? [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: Would that be is that allowable? [1:10:06, 1:10:08]: You want to, certainly. [1:10:08, 1:10:09]: Okay. [1:10:12, 1:10:15]: 'Cause I wanna move to the screen where we had the comparison of the two. [1:10:16, 1:10:19]: And I've got that pulled up. Um Oh, your diagrams? [1:10:19, 1:10:24]: I got that. So if if everybody can see that, one of the things that we wanted to point out [1:10:24, 1:10:44]: um is the difference between the lots in the two communities. When we look at the lots that we are proposing, our minimum lot size is our minimum lot size is 12,000 square feet. We do have 15,000 square feet square foot units along Brandon. [1:10:44, 1:11:04]: Road, but we have increased and you can see the difference in the sizing of the lots. Our lots will all be 75 foot wide. All of our lots will be a minimum of 75 foot wide. And the majority of our lots are at least 100. In order to achieve that, it has to be a minimum of 75 foot wide. [1:11:04, 1:11:12]: And 160 feet deep. So that creates a 12,000 square foot lot. [1:11:13, 1:11:33]: Additionally, we have a 10-foot side yard setback on our lots. So there will actually be a 20-foot um space between the homes, between the buildable envelopes on the home. So there's actually 20 feet between the homes here. [1:11:33, 1:11:49]: based on a 10-foot side yard setback on each side. Additionally, we are holding to a 40-foot rear side, rear setback on the homes. When we then move over to Clark Meadows, you can see a drastic difference in our opinion. [1:11:50, 1:12:10]: In Clark Meadows, um, they have a 60-foot wide lot minimum, and I'm going to show you their plat, which also shows um how many of those homes um abide by that configuration. But they are basically 60 by 125 feet, and they actually obtained a variance at the time. [1:12:10, 1:12:30]: That this community was developed, that only provides for a 10-foot separation between the homes. So, in fact, their side yard setback is five feet on each side. That's why they have so little room that one of their residents who sent me an email talked about, you know, um [1:12:29, 1:12:49]: There's so little room between their communities. Well, that's because their side yard setback is only five feet on each side. So they've got 10 feet behind between their homes. We'll have 20 feet behind between our homes. Um, and then when you just look at the size of our lots, when we're just talking about the minimum lots, and remember, Linda indicated. [1:12:49, 1:12:56]: In her presentation, that over 50% of our lots are in that. [1:12:56, 1:13:16]: are larger than 14,000 square feet. And so you can see that um when we superimpose the Clark Meadow lots into our lots, our lots are significantly larger um in size um than the lots that you are seeing with um the Clark Meadow subdivision. And we actually went and pulled um [1:13:16, 1:13:36]: The approved plat for the Clark Meadows subdivision. And you can see here where it talks about the setbacks. Under R3, it says 10 feet between houses here. We can also look at the dimensional requirements for that community. And the gross [1:13:36, 1:13:56]: Density for Clark Meadows is 2.74 units per acre. 2.74 units per acre. Our gross density is under two units per acre. When we look at the overall density [1:13:56, 1:14:16]: And that was for the 142 lots at 51.76 acres, looking at the overall project here based on the information provided on the front page of their requirements. Their gross density for the R2 was at 1.6, but for the R3 portion, for the 120 [1:14:16, 1:14:36]: They're at three units per acre, which gave them a gross of 2.74 and a net density of 3.25 on their project. Should also be noted that they obtained a number of variances, which allowed them to reduce their lot width. [1:14:36, 1:14:56]: To 60 feet on the smaller lots. They stayed at 75 feet on the bigger lots. And then there were also variances obtained to their rear setbacks as well. So and then one final point, when we look at [1:14:56, 1:15:16]: At their house size requirements, their house sizes were minimum of 16,000 square feet, 18,000 square feet, a fourth of them, no less than 1900 square feet for a fourth of them, and then 2,000 square feet for a fourth of them. But when you look at their overall layout, you can see [1:15:16, 1:15:36]: See that all of the lots are basically 60 feet by 125 feet. And that's consistent throughout their community. Some of the lots may be slightly bigger, slightly smaller, but the mass majority of them are that 60 by 125 feet. So we believe that with [1:15:36, 1:15:56]: With the modifications that we've made to our site plan, we have clearly provided a lot that is larger in size, that has more width between the lots, more space between the lots. The market certainly drove what those houses would look like, even though they're [1:15:56, 1:16:16]: Their minimum lot requirements, sorry, house requirements, they exceeded. We believe that the market will also push what is demanded on this site as well. We agreed to four-sided brick homes, which was not in play when we first came to you all, but we have agreed to a four-sided brick home. [1:16:16, 1:16:36]: Additionally, we added two amenity areas. Clark Meadows has one. We now have two amenity areas, including a swimming pool that was added as one of the amenities, along with two fire pits. We also have the open field space and I don't know if [1:16:36, 1:16:56]: Linda, um, I won't ask you to go back to the site pan, but we had an open field space along with the walking trails, um a pavilion, a shade area for the area around the pool. We have the dock. So we have two rather significant um amenity areas that we have also included. We then also included additional landscape. [1:16:56, 1:17:16]: Along the front of the property, that landscaping will be maintained by the Homeowners Association. We have no problem placing a condition that that will be maintained by the Homeowners Association for the improvements along Brandon Road that were added. We also added sidewalks along. [1:17:16, 1:17:31]: the entire frontage um on Brandon Road. That was also a request that was made. And so we added those sidewalks along the front along Brandon Road. We initially had access off of North Salem. [1:17:31, 1:17:51]: Um even though that um portion is not in the city limits uh along North Salem Road, we did hear uh the cries of that um community to um not have that open. So um we removed that access point um which we had shown you on the last um set of plans. Um there were issues um [1:17:51, 1:18:11]: With the buffers. So we expanded the buffers from 30 feet around the perimeter to 50 feet around the perimeter, and we added a fence along the north side to protect those with larger home sizes on that side that expressed some concerns. We believe that, you know. [1:18:11, 1:18:12]: When you look at [1:18:13, 1:18:33]: this project. I know that change is not um often welcome. You know, uh people feel that you know the traffic is already um um uh difficult for them at times. Um we believe that the traffic study um indicates that there is room for growth and development along that corridor. Um we certainly [1:18:33, 1:18:53]: Hear what the comments are. We talked, and I think that the traffic engineer also indicated that even if we doubled the amount of traffic, we still would be performing at an acceptable level. That being said, to the extent that additional information may be gathered, I'm sure that we can work with that. [1:18:53, 1:18:54]: But meanwhile [1:18:55, 1:19:15]: What we do know is that we have made every provision to ensure that this project is comparable with the other subdivisions, both Clark Meadows and certainly Moss Point, to allow for a product that will be comparable if not above the levels [1:19:15, 1:19:35]: Of when you're looking at the lot sizes of the Clark Meadows community. We also would like to indicate that at the end of the day, we know that there are some who, no matter what we do, we will simply not be able to satisfy. They would prefer that everything stay in the RA standard. [1:19:34, 1:19:54]: Standard. We are bringing sewer to this property, so there is really no need to have the extended larger lots that you see in the surrounding area. There's a mixture, and there has to be a mixture of lots and unit sizes. The lots that are in the jurisdictional boundaries of Stockbridge. [1:19:54, 1:20:14]: We are consistent with. And so we would ask and respectfully request for a recommendation of approval on our application. We know that the price points on these homes will be higher than what we initially started at because we now have a four-sided brick project. So we are in that 300 and [1:20:14, 1:20:34]: um$50,000 range$325 to$350 with the homes as a starting price point. We know that we have room for people to ask for additional improvements to their home, to ask for larger sizes on their homes, to ask for additional amenity features that would go with their homes. [1:20:34, 1:20:45]: which will allow for um the upsell um with regards to the lots, which will also allow for higher price points. But we also had a um [1:20:45, 1:21:05]: An appraiser that was in in attendance at our meeting, at the last meeting, in order to answer questions with regards to price points in the area. We believe that we are in a reasonable price point based on what the market is bearing at this time. But we did by agreeing to the four-sided brick homes allow for that. [1:21:05, 1:21:25]: Price point to be pushed up. And for the community, we believe at the end of the day we have a fabulous community that we want to develop that is actually improved because of the comments that we receive and the modifications that we have made. So with that, we are here to answer any questions. [1:21:25, 1:21:37]: questions. We do have our engineer, Steve Moore, with Moore Bass here. Um you've already spoken with our um uh traffic engineer and um again we are here to answer any further questions that you may have. Thank you. [1:21:44, 1:21:54]: Well I think at at at this point we wanna open it up to public comment because I see that we have uh some members of the community that have joined us. [1:21:54, 1:22:07]: Mr. Mr. Abdullah, if I may, this is Randy Knighton. Yes. I just wanted to make one comment, sir, if if I could. Apparently my IT uh the IT folks told us that there was a problem there for a moment. [1:22:07, 1:22:13]: But I see people, I see about ten attendees on our call now. They're able to connect via [1:22:13, 1:22:15]: Zoom apparently for a moment [1:22:15, 1:22:19]: They were unable to connect through the main Zoom [1:22:19, 1:22:26]: link. We are streaming on Facebook Live and apparently a lot number of people are on there. But I do see a number of attendees now who have been able to connect. [1:22:27, 1:22:29]: Um, to the main Zoom feed. [1:22:29, 1:22:31]: I just wanted to make that announcement, sir. [1:22:31, 1:22:32]: That's fine, that's fine. I appreciate that. [1:22:34, 1:22:38]: So those persons who are in attendance who have a question from the community [1:22:38, 1:22:44]: Uh please provide us with your name, your address, and uh your comment. [1:22:45, 1:22:46]: No question. [1:22:51, 1:22:52]: Hello? [1:22:57, 1:23:00]: Are there any members of the community in attendance? [1:23:03, 1:23:12]: Would you like them to raise their hands if they had a comment or question? Yeah, I mean raise a hand or uh acknowledge that someone Lions family just came on. [1:23:12, 1:23:18]: We have two attendants. I'm not no let me say I'm not seeing any hands raised. I see thirty two participants. [1:23:18, 1:23:21]: Wait, let me get finished. I see thirty two participants. [1:23:21, 1:23:27]: But I don't see any hands raised. But uh Miss Lyons, uh Mr Lyons, go ahead with your question or comment. [1:23:29, 1:23:32]: All right, I'm unmute him for I'm uh uh unmute him, sorry. [1:23:34, 1:23:41]: Thank you. And I know there are a lot of people that are still trying to get in that since we expected to be able to log in at six thirty, but I I appreciate you. [1:23:42, 1:23:45]: letting us in at this point and having a a chance to speak. [1:23:45, 1:23:49]: Um I I live on North Salem with my husband and I know [1:23:50, 1:23:52]: Most of the folks around me. [1:23:52, 1:23:52]: Um [1:23:54, 1:23:55]: We like that they've [1:23:55, 1:23:57]: The builder has offered [1:23:57, 1:23:59]: A lot of the improvements that he's made. [1:24:00, 1:24:05]: But we're s we've still more or less discussed in all of the previous meetings that [1:24:06, 1:24:07]: Henry County. [1:24:07, 1:24:14]: The in the infrastructure that is set up is not prepared for another community of this size on Brennan Road right now. [1:24:15, 1:24:21]: There there's no improvements to plant to im improve it at any time soon either. So [1:24:21, 1:24:24]: You have the concerns about increased traffic. [1:24:25, 1:24:26]: Uh the fact that there's [1:24:27, 1:24:28]: Low [1:24:30, 1:24:32]: I'm I'm trying to think of the proper word. There's a [1:24:32, 1:24:35]: The loc local police are not travelling the [1:24:35, 1:24:39]: Nor Salem much at all because of the type of the road that is. [1:24:39, 1:24:42]: So we're not getting the the visibility from [1:24:43, 1:24:45]: uh the local police as far as [1:24:45, 1:24:48]: No, inc increased density will will bring more crime. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: Uh no matter how nice the houses are and [1:24:52, 1:24:54]: Whoever lives in them. [1:24:54, 1:24:55]: uh [1:24:55, 1:24:57]: have the concerns with [1:24:57, 1:25:01]: More children being a a large neighborhood, it's gonna be full of families. [1:25:02, 1:25:03]: Got one school there. [1:25:04, 1:25:10]: The school isn't prepared to add on immediately either, so you might have to worry about overcrowding the [1:25:10, 1:25:13]: COVID isn't gonna be around forever and [1:25:14, 1:25:14]: Yeah. [1:25:14, 1:25:20]: classrooms are gonna be more than full once the kids all get back in into their classrooms again. [1:25:20, 1:25:23]: Uh you also that's still also a two lane road. [1:25:24, 1:25:26]: Yeah, there's an egress for [1:25:26, 1:25:32]: If the new community would be built for them to turn in and turn out, that's still a two lane road. That's [1:25:32, 1:25:33]: gonna be [1:25:33, 1:25:38]: An increase of at least three hundred cars a day passing back and forth in front of that school. [1:25:39, 1:25:39]: And [1:25:40, 1:25:46]: the area where the other two subdivisions are as well as North Salem Drive, that's gonna make it [1:25:46, 1:25:48]: very difficult for anyone. [1:25:49, 1:25:50]: Coming and going. [1:25:50, 1:25:52]: On a daily basis. [1:25:52, 1:25:53]: Uh [1:25:54, 1:25:54]: Yeah. [1:25:55, 1:25:57]: It's just all all around. It's [1:25:58, 1:26:00]: It's a bad idea. [1:26:00, 1:26:04]: The that area is not ready for that jump in growth. [1:26:04, 1:26:05]: And [1:26:05, 1:26:08]: Overall the comparisons in [1:26:08, 1:26:09]: This [1:26:09, 1:26:13]: offering have been comparing the area to Stockbridge. [1:26:14, 1:26:14]: Are [1:26:15, 1:26:16]: Our main [1:26:18, 1:26:18]: Oh. [1:26:18, 1:26:21]: Our community is really more rural. [1:26:21, 1:26:21]: Bed. [1:26:21, 1:26:24]: city and that's the way we like it. [1:26:24, 1:26:26]: Со іфрот із гана кам. [1:26:27, 1:26:35]: Let it come either at a little smaller pace or let the houses be spaced farther apart so we can keep that rural feel that we have. [1:26:36, 1:26:40]: That we've had for the last twenty plus years in that area. [1:26:41, 1:26:41]: And [1:26:42, 1:26:46]: That's that's what we wanna keep. We wanna keep that type of community and that type of feel. [1:26:47, 1:26:49]: 'cause that's what we moved there for. [1:26:49, 1:26:49]: And [1:26:50, 1:26:52]: That's why a lot of the people that live there have [1:26:52, 1:26:54]: been there for decades plus. [1:26:55, 1:27:00]: 'Cause they like the way the community feels as it is. They don't want it to turn into stock bridge. [1:27:06, 1:27:08]: That it mislined. [1:27:08, 1:27:09]: Yes, sir. Thank you. [1:27:10, 1:27:10]: Okay. [1:27:12, 1:27:17]: Are there any other uh participants out there vapor? I don't see a hand. I don't see any hands. Would you kindly [1:27:18, 1:27:20]: Karen Robinson has her hand up. [1:27:20, 1:27:21]: Who? [1:27:21, 1:27:22]: Karen Robinson. [1:27:23, 1:27:25]: Okay, Miss Robinson, go ahead. [1:27:26, 1:27:27]: Karen Robbins, thank you. [1:27:28, 1:27:28]: Um [1:27:30, 1:27:36]: I understand there's gonna be a development at the intersection of East Lake Parkway. [1:27:36, 1:27:37]: And Springdale Road. [1:27:38, 1:27:40]: Springdale Road comes into Brennan Road. [1:27:41, 1:27:46]: So when that um that's supposed to be a quite a large complex when it's finished. [1:27:46, 1:27:48]: And I um [1:27:49, 1:27:59]: You know, I think that needs to be taken into consideration'cause there will be traffic coming off. Yeah, I mean, raise a hand or uh acknowledge that someone Lions family just came on. [1:27:59, 1:28:06]: Hello. Ms. Robbins. Can you hear me? Yes. Can you hear me? All right. Yeah, are you yeah, go ahead. [1:28:06, 1:28:08]: Okay, other people are talking. [1:28:08, 1:28:12]: Um and also I would like to know when [1:28:12, 1:28:15]: This piece of land was uh [1:28:17, 1:28:21]: Incorporated into the city of Stockbridge. I never recall a [1:28:22, 1:28:24]: Sign saying that was happening. [1:28:25, 1:28:26]: О [1:28:26, 1:28:29]: Anything. I would like to know what year that was that [1:28:30, 1:28:35]: That land became city of Stockbridge. I can answer that. It was annexed of the city in two thousand four. [1:28:36, 1:28:38]: All right, thank you. [1:28:38, 1:28:45]: And um I will still think that there should be an environmental study done about water runoff. [1:28:46, 1:28:51]: The water tables have changed in this county due to a lot of construction. [1:28:51, 1:28:56]: And it's been a problem in the past and even when it rains heavily. [1:28:57, 1:29:06]: The pavement on North Salem fills up with water very easily and it's can it's treacherous at times during a heavy rain just to drive down the street. [1:29:07, 1:29:08]: So our [1:29:08, 1:29:09]: Um [1:29:10, 1:29:15]: I really think, you know, some kind of study needs to be done about the water runoff. Thank you. [1:29:17, 1:29:19]: I thank you, Miss Robbins. [1:29:20, 1:29:22]: Are there any other hands up out there? [1:29:22, 1:29:23]: We have Mark Jones. [1:29:27, 1:29:27]: Jones? [1:29:29, 1:29:32]: Mr. Jones, Mr. or Mrs. Jones, would you speak up? [1:29:39, 1:29:49]: Mr. or Mrs. Jones. They are allowed to talk, but they're not they're still on mute, Mark Jones. Mr. Jones, would you kindly unmute yourself so that we can hear you? [1:29:54, 1:29:57]: Jones family, would you unmute yourself so that we can hear you? [1:29:58, 1:30:05]: I would just like to say the format is different on our screen, or at least on my screen. I don't see the participants on here at all. [1:30:05, 1:30:08]: So I don't see them I don't see them either. So [1:30:08, 1:30:09]: Uh [1:30:09, 1:30:11]: format is we have another um [1:30:12, 1:30:14]: Marty Vern and Greg Ferry. [1:30:15, 1:30:17]: They have their hand raised as well. [1:30:18, 1:30:19]: Yes, there's three of us here. [1:30:20, 1:30:31]: Um yeah, so matter of fact, Mark Jones, I don't know what's happening there, but he has a presentation that the community got together and uh we would like for him to do that. Anyway, I would like to say that uh [1:30:32, 1:30:40]: One of our main concerns is uh that this a subdivision of this size going in on this piece of property. [1:30:40, 1:30:45]: Um is not uh comparable to those in our community. [1:30:45, 1:30:52]: The extensive uh report that they were talking about that the man gave at the uh last community meeting. [1:30:53, 1:30:53]: Uh [1:30:54, 1:30:55]: That was [1:30:56, 1:30:59]: Тринав мер радис анво. [1:31:00, 1:31:07]: West on west of Brenner Road. Nothing to the east, nothing to the south, nothing to the north. [1:31:07, 1:31:11]: And our community is all in that direction. [1:31:11, 1:31:15]: from from this piece of property. This piece of property is on the very [1:31:16, 1:31:19]: uh western edge of our little community. [1:31:19, 1:31:39]: And this is the only piece of property that is annexed in the city of Stockbridge. We are rural. We're rural in the Henry County, and all of our properties are larger properties. The subdivision slammed up right next to the ones that they're comparing to is larger lots. Further south. [1:31:39, 1:31:41]: [5501.7, 5521.7]: As larger lots. There's uh about at least six subdivisions in our community that all have lots that are larger lots, and that's the way our community has been. This is not comparable with our community. It's comparable with the city of Stockbridge, three miles and three and a half miles out to the to the west, but it's not. [1:32:01, 1:32:18]: not in with our community. And I think that's what you're what's really getting everybody the most. Uh it's just too many houses, too many cars, too many people for the schools, the roads, the infrastructure. It it's too much to bring into this area. [1:32:18, 1:32:29]: And uh seeing it all the time with the ones that have come in uh over the years. And we've got this big one that Karen Robinson just talking about that's gonna be bringing traffic to us as well. [1:32:31, 1:32:33]: Which community do you reside in? [1:32:33, 1:32:38]: Um why not make a presentation uh for from the behalf of the community? [1:32:39, 1:32:42]: We'd like more hold on for a minute. [1:32:43, 1:32:49]: We're Marty Verner and which community do you reside in? We live on North Stalin Drive. [1:32:50, 1:32:52]: Which community do you reside in? [1:32:52, 1:33:12]: I live in Westminster. Our little community is not a name to it. We've been here since we've lived here for thirty three years. [1:33:12, 1:33:28]: years and it's been like this and the new subdivisions that have come in have also been larger lots. Okay. Am I able to make a presentation? I think that will kind of clarify clarify some things. We'll let it let Mark speak. Mark has our presentation along with the rest of our community. [1:33:28, 1:33:37]: Yes. Yes, uh yes. That would be best to for you to listen to him because we all kind of got our thoughts together and he's got the presentation. [1:33:38, 1:33:42]: All right, go ahead, sir. Can I share my screen? Go ahead, share your screen. [1:33:45, 1:33:45]: Sir. [1:33:46, 1:33:47]: Yes, I'm sharing up. [1:33:48, 1:33:50]: Okay, can all see my screen? [1:33:50, 1:33:52]: Yes. Can you hear me okay? [1:33:52, 1:33:54]: Yes. Okay. [1:33:54, 1:33:56]: Hello, my name is Mark Jones. [1:33:57, 1:34:06]: And um this is um reference to the presentation to the Stock Bridge uh Planning and Zoning members. Uh this is by the local community members and today is the 25th. [1:34:11, 1:34:12]: Page. [1:34:13, 1:34:15]: Okay, the community requests that the [1:34:15, 1:34:19]: Stockbridge planning and zoning board members would vote no to the rezoning. [1:34:20, 1:34:24]: Reasons uh the R three zoning is out of character with the surrounding area. [1:34:25, 1:34:28]: You know, Clark Metal is only parcel with less than [1:34:28, 1:34:30]: A half acre of land. [1:34:30, 1:34:37]: The thirty nine new hundred and thirty nine new homes on seventy three acres is just too dense of a development for that parcel. [1:34:38, 1:34:42]: Additional homes will require will overpopulate the mostly rural area. [1:34:43, 1:34:45]: The home values would be decreased. [1:34:46, 1:34:53]: The concerns we have with Battle's Law proposal, the initial community meeting with Battle Law said that they stated that there were thirty-five members. [1:34:54, 1:34:55]: We're in favor of the development. [1:34:55, 1:34:56]: However [1:34:56, 1:35:00]: The members who actually attended the meeting said the majority was against the proposal. [1:35:01, 1:35:04]: No, the traffic study was conducted was not beneficial. [1:35:04, 1:35:07]: It was completed during time when school was out. [1:35:08, 1:35:11]: And like the gentleman had said, there's only one data point that was taken. [1:35:12, 1:35:15]: And the weekend Friday and weekend was not even considered. [1:35:16, 1:35:19]: Initial proposal was for a home to be a non brick. [1:35:20, 1:35:21]: Front entry garages. [1:35:22, 1:35:24]: You know, three point one net density per acre. [1:35:26, 1:35:28]: Of the seventy three acres platform. [1:35:29, 1:35:32]: They have listed only forty seven acres actually can be developed. [1:35:33, 1:35:40]: Which leads to the very low small lot size, which also leads to twenty feet per you know, between the houses. [1:35:41, 1:35:47]: The last community meeting was held with the two days notice and without any signs on the road. This is really not acceptable. [1:35:48, 1:35:54]: And the comp comparisons were within a three mile radius, but that only included the stock bridge side. [1:35:55, 1:35:57]: The community concerns is excess of traffic. [1:35:57, 1:35:58]: On North Salem Road. [1:35:59, 1:36:02]: You know, battle laws suggest that the community should [1:36:02, 1:36:04]: Contract the city of Madonna. [1:36:04, 1:36:05]: To address the issue. [1:36:06, 1:36:08]: They got built in and stock a stock page. [1:36:09, 1:36:10]: But McGonna [1:36:11, 1:36:13]: Needs to address the issues with the road. [1:36:14, 1:36:17]: There's excessive traffic on Brandon Road as it is. [1:36:18, 1:36:24]: Uh uh entry deceleration lane and a possible future traffic light was the so-called proposed solution. [1:36:26, 1:36:29]: You know, drainage is also an issue that affects North Salem Road. [1:36:30, 1:36:34]: And it will increase with the uh defense with the uh with the dense development. [1:36:35, 1:36:39]: You know, portion of the parcel is in the in the floodplain. [1:36:40, 1:36:43]: No, the engineering study is supposed to address the issue. [1:36:44, 1:36:47]: You know, but obviously there's no guarantee to fix it. [1:36:48, 1:36:54]: And they're also you know overcrowding the school system, you know, to build more classrooms with trailers to accommodate. [1:36:54, 1:36:55]: Increase students. [1:36:58, 1:37:02]: The characteristics of the area, most of the areas have one or more acre lot. [1:37:03, 1:37:04]: Lost point. [1:37:05, 1:37:06]: Which is on Brandon Road. [1:37:06, 1:37:08]: Brandon in States. [1:37:08, 1:37:09]: Which is on Brandon Road. [1:37:10, 1:37:12]: Westminster, which is on North Salem. [1:37:13, 1:37:14]: Wildwood Street [1:37:14, 1:37:17]: No, intersecting the intersects brain of road. [1:37:17, 1:37:22]: White oak, you know, has its entry on campground, but the land is east of Brandon Estates. [1:37:23, 1:37:28]: as well as country acres. Now all these are surrounding areas have one or more acre lots. [1:37:29, 1:37:33]: And you can kind of see this is a pro proposed uh new development. [1:37:34, 1:37:36]: And the area that's around it. [1:37:37, 1:37:38]: No, mostly you have [1:37:38, 1:37:39]: Large a lot. [1:37:40, 1:37:46]: Now the characteristics according to Noted by Battle, the proposed subdivision, the reserve of Hickory Hills. [1:37:47, 1:37:51]: Needs the R3 zoning. The lot width is seventy-five feet. [1:37:52, 1:37:56]: You know, um, but the other surrounding subdivisions, Clark Meadows. [1:37:57, 1:38:04]: Which I'm not sure um the last I checked it was P D, but that that um is is not valid now, but [1:38:05, 1:38:07]: Crown Walk, which is next to it, is R two. [1:38:08, 1:38:10]: has a lot width of 125 feet. [1:38:12, 1:38:13]: They have thirty lots and they're on septic. [1:38:14, 1:38:15]: Moss point. [1:38:15, 1:38:16]: It's R two. [1:38:17, 1:38:19]: Their lot width is 100 feet. [1:38:20, 1:38:24]: And has this type of of of density and they're hundred and uh twenty five lots. [1:38:25, 1:38:28]: And then she also had shown that the summits in the highlands. [1:38:29, 1:38:30]: But [1:38:30, 1:38:35]: That entry is on highway forty two and that shouldn't even be considered in the discussion. [1:38:37, 1:38:42]: So Clark Meadows is right here and you can see how small the locks are there. [1:38:43, 1:38:50]: This this these entries on here is on 42, so that shouldn't be considered. You can see that the larger, you know, crown walk. [1:38:51, 1:38:53]: And Ma's point, they're on larger [1:38:54, 1:38:54]: Lot. [1:38:55, 1:38:56]: This is the new proposed area. [1:38:58, 1:39:00]: So if you look at the overall density [1:39:01, 1:39:03]: This is the part they're talking about. [1:39:03, 1:39:04]: Going to R three. [1:39:05, 1:39:06]: This is our two. [1:39:08, 1:39:13]: This is I'm not sure exactly what this new Clark McMells, but you can see all this is Stockbridge. [1:39:14, 1:39:16]: But this is the surrounding area. [1:39:18, 1:39:19]: So this is not. [1:39:21, 1:39:22]: Compatible with R three. [1:39:25, 1:39:27]: No, the person they say should be system. [1:39:28, 1:39:32]: With a zoning in the area. There's no current R three zoning. [1:39:32, 1:39:38]: If unless the Clark Meadows has has been changed. East of Brandon Road, you know, should be acre lot. [1:39:39, 1:39:42]: The parcel of land was grandfathered in as being stockridge, however [1:39:43, 1:39:44]: You know, it should be [1:39:45, 1:39:46]: А за с аджасен зон. [1:39:47, 1:39:48]: As like I said before. [1:39:48, 1:39:50]: All this around the area. [1:39:51, 1:39:52]: A large lot. [1:39:54, 1:39:56]: So the housing density has its place. [1:39:57, 1:40:01]: No, the dense housing should be on property that has adequate road infrastructure. [1:40:02, 1:40:04]: That supports the amount of traffic. [1:40:05, 1:40:07]: And rural housing should be on property. [1:40:07, 1:40:09]: That handles a certain amount of local traffic. [1:40:12, 1:40:14]: Community Delft Development Request [1:40:15, 1:40:18]: At least three quarters acre to a to a acre lot size. [1:40:19, 1:40:21]: Which is not R three, but R one or R two. [1:40:23, 1:40:26]: Now I do appreciate they uh did up the [1:40:26, 1:40:28]: Um the the criteria [1:40:28, 1:40:30]: To make all four side brick. [1:40:31, 1:40:33]: You know, a stone on the main level. [1:40:34, 1:40:39]: But their concession was only some of them would have side entry garages. [1:40:40, 1:40:46]: Uh but we prefer that you know all of them because most of the areas in our in the area do have side entry garages. [1:40:46, 1:40:48]: No, they're custom built, no houses. [1:40:49, 1:40:53]: You're on septic sanitation, no sewer lines to be installed. [1:40:54, 1:40:58]: Uh, because by installing sewer, you know, you are going to disrupt [1:40:58, 1:41:01]: Um the area even as it is now. [1:41:02, 1:41:06]: And we would like to to have the optional basements as the train permits. [1:41:06, 1:41:08]: This is what the community development [1:41:08, 1:41:09]: Request. [1:41:10, 1:41:15]: You know, we would prevent uh proposal would be homes with larger still. [1:41:15, 1:41:16]: A still deserve. [1:41:17, 1:41:21]: You know, homes with large lots are selling over asking price. [1:41:22, 1:41:29]: You know, homes with large lots, you know, priced in a three hundred to five hundred price range would be ex would be ac acceptable. [1:41:30, 1:41:37]: And remember, there's only forty-seven acres of developable land that is suited for custom built homes, not large subdivisions. [1:41:39, 1:41:44]: And we would prefer a builder with a niche to build homes within the characteristics of the area. [1:41:45, 1:41:47]: На но Либері ком'юнтиз. [1:41:48, 1:41:50]: When they'd restart to them, you know. [1:41:50, 1:41:53]: They do not have any. [1:41:53, 1:41:54]: Fully brick. [1:41:54, 1:42:00]: homes. The if you look at if you look at research, you know, the Liberty properties, what they have done [1:42:01, 1:42:04]: Um they would not fulfill any of these new proposals. [1:42:05, 1:42:09]: So my other question is what guarantees once the zoning has has passed. [1:42:10, 1:42:12]: And hopefully it does not go to to [1:42:12, 1:42:12]: R three. [1:42:13, 1:42:17]: How can the developer be held accountable for the proposal by the community? [1:42:18, 1:42:20]: Can the builder be vetted before they start? [1:42:21, 1:42:25]: You know, how can we prevent the builder from switching to a rental property later? [1:42:26, 1:42:29]: You know, how can we avoid a subdivision that's being started? [1:42:29, 1:42:33]: And several years later completed by another builder with different priorities. [1:42:34, 1:42:40]: And if it is gonna be built, something is gonna be built there, is a senior property development possible? [1:42:40, 1:42:42]: You know, that would lessen amount of cars. [1:42:43, 1:42:46]: And also would have no no effect on the schools. [1:42:48, 1:42:53]: Well, in conclusion, the community surrounding the parcel would like to kindly re uh request [1:42:53, 1:42:56]: Let the planning zone member board members to vote no. [1:42:57, 1:42:58]: to the RA [1:42:58, 1:43:00]: to R three zoning requests. [1:43:01, 1:43:07]: We understand the development will happen sooner than later, but the type of development needs to be harmonious with the area. [1:43:08, 1:43:09]: And to enhance the area. [1:43:10, 1:43:11]: And not to degrade the area. [1:43:13, 1:43:17]: I want to thank you to Linda Logan for listening and replying to promptly to my request. [1:43:18, 1:43:25]: Thank you, Mr. Abdullah, for requesting that community have input uh before the board members voted. I appreciate that. [1:43:26, 1:43:30]: Thank you, Mr. Dumas and Mrs. Wallace uh for your support as well. [1:43:31, 1:43:36]: And uh thank you for the community members, you know, that helped me uh put all this together. [1:43:40, 1:43:44]: And again, I think for the on the behalf of the you know community. [1:43:44, 1:43:45]: Um [1:43:46, 1:43:47]: We [1:43:47, 1:43:51]: The then the lot sizes with the houses being twenty feet apart. [1:43:53, 1:43:53]: Um [1:43:54, 1:43:56]: That is not the type of development [1:43:57, 1:43:58]: Да, ви а за комніти [1:43:59, 1:44:00]: want in this area. [1:44:01, 1:44:05]: And would be and that would not be beneficial to this area at all at all. [1:44:05, 1:44:07]: As you can see going back to here. [1:44:09, 1:44:11]: The whole area around here [1:44:12, 1:44:15]: It's R A, maybe even R one or R two. [1:44:15, 1:44:19]: But R three for this part is just really totally encroachment. [1:44:19, 1:44:20]: And is not [1:44:21, 1:44:21]: Something [1:44:22, 1:44:23]: That this area [1:44:24, 1:44:25]: Would benefit [1:44:25, 1:44:26]: This area. [1:44:26, 1:44:30]: Now all the development as far as stock bridge is concerned. [1:44:30, 1:44:35]: You know, you need to have the road structure in place to handle that type of dense development. [1:44:36, 1:44:38]: And what you're having here. [1:44:39, 1:44:41]: With a traffic study that was not. [1:44:41, 1:44:43]: very um [1:44:44, 1:44:51]: No, I was thorough, but it was it was not at the right time because as two no two or three years later down the road. [1:44:52, 1:44:57]: That traffic study, even at a twenty five percent increase, as the d the gentleman had said. [1:44:58, 1:45:00]: Um with just one data point. [1:45:00, 1:45:01]: Із на [1:45:01, 1:45:03]: Very good practice study at this time. [1:45:04, 1:45:07]: And the traffic is going to be very much impacted. [1:45:08, 1:45:08]: Bye. [1:45:08, 1:45:10]: this type of development. [1:45:10, 1:45:12]: So I would suggest that [1:45:13, 1:45:14]: You find a a builder. [1:45:15, 1:45:17]: That would be able to [1:45:17, 1:45:19]: Make things [1:45:19, 1:45:20]: Request [1:45:22, 1:45:26]: And be able to, you know, in that way we be harmonious. [1:45:27, 1:45:30]: with the area, but uh but like I said. [1:45:30, 1:45:31]: In conclusion. [1:45:31, 1:45:33]: Please vote no. [1:45:33, 1:45:38]: to the R A to R three. That's a big jump, going from R A to R three. [1:45:38, 1:45:39]: We kindly [1:45:39, 1:45:41]: And respectfully request. [1:45:41, 1:45:43]: That the board members would vote. [1:45:44, 1:45:45]: No for this proposal. [1:45:46, 1:45:47]: And I would stop sharing my screen. [1:45:50, 1:45:52]: All right, thank you very much for your presentation. [1:45:54, 1:45:55]: I can p. [1:46:00, 1:46:04]: Uh is there anyone else with that uh the total community? [1:46:05, 1:46:06]: We have a Linda Kerr. [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: But her hand raised. [1:46:15, 1:46:17]: Please unmute yourself, Linda. [1:46:20, 1:46:21]: What any words? [1:46:24, 1:46:25]: Is it on now? [1:46:27, 1:46:29]: Yeah, sure, Linda. [1:46:30, 1:46:38]: Um I'm uh I live in St. Andrews at Rockport, lived here for twenty three years. And this has [1:46:40, 1:46:49]: This has been an excellent place to live and I would like my property value to remain high. [1:46:49, 1:46:51]: Um this could be one there. [1:46:53, 1:47:11]: This has been an extra safe letter time and I would like my property value to the main high. So I'm asking that you vote no on R3 zoning. Thank you. This could be an extra safe letter time. All right, thank you, Ms. Kerr. [1:47:15, 1:47:16]: Is there anyone else out there? [1:47:18, 1:47:19]: Anyone else? [1:47:21, 1:47:22]: Uh, Miss Battle. [1:47:23, 1:47:27]: Mr. Abdullah, thank you. Would I be giving you a big Barber Fleshman has her hand raised. [1:47:28, 1:47:32]: Who is this now? Barber Fleshman has her hand raised. [1:47:32, 1:47:33]: All right, Miss Flexman, go ahead. [1:47:35, 1:47:36]: Miss Battle, just bear with us for it. [1:47:39, 1:47:39]: Go ahead. [1:47:42, 1:47:42]: Okay. [1:47:43, 1:47:45]: Who has a hand raised? [1:47:45, 1:47:48]: No, you need to speak a little louder so I can hear you. I can't hear you. [1:47:48, 1:47:49]: You can't hear me? [1:47:50, 1:47:53]: I can hear you now. What's your name? Name and address. [1:47:53, 1:48:02]: Far okay, I live at ten twenty-six Brandon Road. I have nine acres. We moved here in nineteen eighty nine, so thirty years ago. [1:48:02, 1:48:03]: And [1:48:04, 1:48:24]: What the traffic study is really inadequate. They built that school down there. I never objected to anything being built on Brandon Road, but it got so bad with the school that I can't hardly get out of my driveway during school hours. And my neighbor on the other side of me, she's been here about as long as I have. She had eight acres. [1:48:24, 1:48:42]: Oh, has eight acres. And then she moved the other side of me. She got six acres. But um so she was trying to turn in her driveway and people were trying to run over her, blow the horn. She couldn't even turn in her driveway. Same thing with me. We almost get rear-ended. The traffic is ridiculous without this other subdivision. [1:48:42, 1:49:02]: And the the traffic study, he said it would be uh fourteen hundred and eighty-two trips, extra trips a day. And he also said an additional lane would be required. Whose property is that gonna take if they have to put additional lane in there? Because Brandon Road is a two-lane road and there's uh Clark Meadows one side and the new proposed subdivision on the other. So where is an extra [1:49:02, 1:49:06]: extra lane gonna go then I don't even know where the ingress and egress lanes would be. [1:49:07, 1:49:07]: Um [1:49:09, 1:49:13]: The houses, you know, we would prefer they were at least uh [1:49:13, 1:49:20]: Twenty five hundred, three thousand square feet. And we had told Miss Battle that the two thousand uh square feet was not big enough. [1:49:20, 1:49:29]: Um, the Ms. Logan said that the school said they would need eleven more classrooms. Um, everybody's school taxes will go up to take care of that. [1:49:30, 1:49:31]: And uh [1:49:31, 1:49:45]: Like I said, we first moved out here, there weren't any subdivisions on Brown Road, to my knowledge. And that St. Andrews at Rockport got started a long time ago. And then I think the builder built like three houses in there and never finished them. They set just [1:49:46, 1:49:53]: uh you know, empty for years, uncompleted. And then years later somebody finally went in there and finished the subdivision. [1:49:53, 1:50:12]: and and built it out. And then on the other side of me on Brandon Road, I can't remember the subdivision. I think there are five hundred thousand dollar homes in there. But that land was sold, the infrastructure was put in, and then the builder went belly up and the that that land sat there empty for years and it turned into a trash dump. [1:50:13, 1:50:24]: So um I've been I put the uh meeting information with the zoning so people would know it. I put it on uh Wildwood next door or something like that. [1:50:24, 1:50:30]: And I got contacted by Elton Alexander. He told me that I wasn't woke. [1:50:30, 1:50:33]: And that I didn't like diversity. [1:50:33, 1:50:39]: And uh he he would be the deciding factor or whether or not this subdivision gets approved. [1:50:39, 1:50:46]: And so I don't like his comments and all of us around here are not trying to you know [1:50:46, 1:50:49]: Uh stop any diversity. Um we [1:50:50, 1:51:10]: Don't object to the right improvements being for this area. But I think you sir were the one that said she wouldn't want this subdivision being built down the road from you. Or was one of the members that said that initially. And that's how we feel about it. If you want to put something in there, we don't want the status quo. We want something better. And let's let's you know let's have some higher [1:51:11, 1:51:12]: Value houses come in. [1:51:13, 1:51:14]: High end houses, yeah. [1:51:15, 1:51:16]: High end houses. [1:51:16, 1:51:18]: So that's my comment. So thank you for listening. [1:51:19, 1:51:21]: All right, thank you, Ms. Fleshman. [1:51:21, 1:51:22]: Yes, thank you. [1:51:23, 1:51:25]: There's a Mr Richard Gill. [1:51:26, 1:51:28]: I hope I pronounced that name correctly. [1:51:28, 1:51:32]: It was a great opportun great uh [1:51:32, 1:51:33]: Uh [1:51:33, 1:51:34]: Well great job. [1:51:35, 1:51:38]: I'm sorry. Yeah, it was a good chance. Let me uh can you hear me? [1:51:39, 1:51:40]: Yes. [1:51:40, 1:51:50]: Okay. So I live in the Westminster subdivision. I've been here for fifteen years. My attraction to this area was the fact that there was um a larger [1:51:51, 1:51:54]: building structures that were in this area and I knew that my [1:51:54, 1:51:58]: My resident that I was building on an acre plus lot was going to [1:51:58, 1:52:02]: Increase in value because all of the other opportunities in this area. [1:52:03, 1:52:04]: We're at that level or [1:52:04, 1:52:05]: Or even greater [1:52:06, 1:52:08]: From the standpoint of purchasing land. [1:52:08, 1:52:09]: Um [1:52:09, 1:52:23]: I've got to tell you that um I was shocked when the uh neighborhood went in across the street from where North Salem meets Brennan Road. Uh all of the uh the the the [1:52:25, 1:52:29]: High density, I guess, neighborhood that was put there. [1:52:29, 1:52:36]: put a lot of cars and struct and uh additional trips up and down Brandon Road, which [1:52:40, 1:52:41]: You know, back in the day. [1:52:41, 1:52:45]: It's okay to travel up Brown to Brandon Road either way. [1:52:45, 1:52:50]: without having a whole lot of complication, but now that you've got that neighborhood in [1:52:50, 1:52:54]: You go to the one in of Brandon Road, where it meets on the on the south side. [1:52:55, 1:52:56]: Of uh forty two. [1:52:57, 1:52:58]: You have cars backed up. [1:52:59, 1:53:01]: for eight or nine deep. [1:53:01, 1:53:03]: trying to get on that uh [1:53:05, 1:53:08]: angled uh stop sign there to get back on forty two. [1:53:09, 1:53:15]: And a constant basis. People are not they're afraid to get back on 42. There's you've got the two lanes. [1:53:15, 1:53:19]: Uh starting up for forty two heading into uh [1:53:20, 1:53:25]: uh heading into Stockbridge on the northbound lanes, and you've got the single lane going south. [1:53:26, 1:53:28]: And then you've got the l stop light at the other end. [1:53:29, 1:53:31]: And you've constantly got traffic backed up there. [1:53:32, 1:53:34]: Eight or nine or ten deep cars. [1:53:34, 1:53:40]: The roads are just not manageable for the increase of cars and trips that you're talking about. [1:53:40, 1:53:42]: fulfilling in this this development. [1:53:43, 1:53:44]: And then you've got [1:53:44, 1:53:46]: Brennan, you've got North Salem Road. [1:53:46, 1:53:48]: Now let me tell you about North Salem Road. [1:53:48, 1:53:52]: I've been here fifteen years and that that road is washed out twice. [1:53:53, 1:53:56]: With just the number of cars that are coming from [1:53:56, 1:53:58]: Uh the east side. [1:53:58, 1:54:01]: Or the west side going to the east side to Union Grove High School. [1:54:02, 1:54:05]: Let me tell you, it's washed out twice and it's going to wash out again. [1:54:06, 1:54:09]: The roads are already deteriorating to the point to where they got potholes. [1:54:10, 1:54:17]: developing and you go and put this subdivision in with another three four hundred and fifty cars potentially traveling up. [1:54:17, 1:54:18]: North Salem Road. [1:54:19, 1:54:21]: And you're gonna increase the the uh [1:54:21, 1:54:24]: The resurfacing requirements for that road. [1:54:24, 1:54:27]: And the fact that that road is so narrow. [1:54:27, 1:54:28]: That you can't get. [1:54:29, 1:54:34]: But wonder sometimes you have to stop to let them the other lane pass. [1:54:34, 1:54:36]: So that you can continue down the road. [1:54:36, 1:54:37]: Because the uh [1:54:38, 1:54:39]: Resident trash cans. [1:54:40, 1:54:41]: That are being dumped. [1:54:41, 1:54:44]: on their day of being emptied. [1:54:44, 1:54:47]: Are next to the road and that you don't have any room to get by. [1:54:48, 1:54:52]: So any kind of traffic up and down that road that's larger than a normal sedan. [1:54:53, 1:54:55]: Is gonna have to work its way in slow motion. [1:54:56, 1:54:57]: to to pass each other. [1:54:58, 1:54:58]: And [1:54:58, 1:55:00]: I'll tell you right now, last year [1:55:01, 1:55:04]: I drive a suburban, so I carry up a lot of that that roadway. [1:55:05, 1:55:08]: I got accosted by somebody coming out of that big neighborhood. [1:55:08, 1:55:10]: That you approved across the street from [1:55:11, 1:55:12]: Where Brian wrote. [1:55:12, 1:55:16]: Or where North Salem meets Brandon Road because they wanted to go around me. [1:55:16, 1:55:20]: And they couldn't go around me. I wasn't going fast enough, but I was doing speed limit. [1:55:21, 1:55:22]: Because it's a dangerous road. [1:55:23, 1:55:24]: If you get going too fast. [1:55:25, 1:55:26]: And the gentleman [1:55:26, 1:55:33]: Ended up running off the road to go around me, stopped in front of me, jumped out of his car, and acted like he had a gun in his pocket. [1:55:34, 1:55:35]: Now you tell me [1:55:35, 1:55:36]: How that's safe. [1:55:39, 1:55:44]: When people buy the right kind of structured homes and they have to live in the right kind of economy to [1:55:44, 1:55:47]: That's the that's that we've we've got in this area. [1:55:48, 1:55:50]: That's the kind of living that we wanted. [1:55:51, 1:55:55]: And for that to be in our our neighborhood now is a disgrace. [1:55:56, 1:55:58]: should not be part of our lifestyle. [1:55:59, 1:56:01]: And so the other thing I want to bring about. [1:56:03, 1:56:14]: that I feel like is something that you need to be able to use is the resurfacing structure of all of the Henry County Roads. If you're scared about lawsuits and other things being put in here because of the [1:56:15, 1:56:17]: You know, failing to approve. [1:56:17, 1:56:21]: Take'em up and let them pay for the resurfacing of the roads, they're continue to be [1:56:22, 1:56:26]: used by all of this traffic that's coming in from these high density neighborhoods. [1:56:27, 1:56:32]: And let them be a part of paying up our solution and uh driving [1:56:32, 1:56:37]: uh dollars to the bottom line to help pay to pay for all of that. So [1:56:37, 1:56:42]: That's what I've got to say. I appreciate your time. I appreciate you giving us the opportunity to [1:56:43, 1:56:46]: To speak our minds and give you an opportunity to understand. [1:56:46, 1:56:47]: Why we're here? [1:56:47, 1:56:49]: Why I came here. [1:56:49, 1:56:50]: And what we're looking for. [1:56:51, 1:56:54]: I know it's gotta be developed. I don't have a problem with development. [1:56:54, 1:57:00]: What I have a problem with is the development that increases or reduces the safety of my family. [1:57:01, 1:57:08]: my family's kids, the families around me, and their families, and the the the the the fact that [1:57:08, 1:57:10]: You don't see the standard. [1:57:11, 1:57:15]: right now because of the pandemic of the r of the traffic report [1:57:16, 1:57:19]: Вот усі із апандемік реляти аналізи. [1:57:20, 1:57:24]: And it's not anywhere close to what it what was true before. [1:57:24, 1:57:25]: The pandemic. [1:57:26, 1:57:27]: Thank you for your time. [1:57:28, 1:57:29]: I thank you, Mr. Gill. [1:57:30, 1:57:32]: Anyone else out there? [1:57:32, 1:57:34]: There was a Danny Kilpatrick. [1:57:34, 1:57:37]: That had their hand raised. Kilpatrick. [1:57:38, 1:57:40]: Mr. Kilpatrick, would you proceed? [1:57:40, 1:57:45]: Hi. Um I'm speaking on the behalf of the Kilpatrix. I'm under Martin Jones's um [1:57:46, 1:57:50]: log in because it was extremely difficult to get in. Um I don't know if you guys are taking [1:57:50, 1:57:56]: uh records of that. But please understand that has not been very user friendly for the community to [1:57:56, 1:57:58]: uh voice or opinion [1:57:58, 1:58:05]: Um, like we would normally do if we had a board commissioner meeting where we would be present and you could see the numbers in in person. [1:58:05, 1:58:07]: Um everyone else is actually. [1:58:07, 1:58:14]: Uh, stated all the facts that uh we are deeply opposed to this project, and it's not because we're opposed to growth, but [1:58:14, 1:58:16]: It is a reckless [1:58:16, 1:58:17]: Uh [1:58:17, 1:58:21]: impact that uh this developer has proposed [1:58:21, 1:58:26]: Uh, we've done lots of research on this develop developer, and they have also put [1:58:27, 1:58:28]: Ларджер лот. [1:58:28, 1:58:30]: larger homes in other communities. [1:58:30, 1:58:35]: What is being proposed in this community is not commensurate with what we have here. [1:58:35, 1:58:38]: And so and it has also been brought up that [1:58:38, 1:58:40]: The city of Stockbridge. [1:58:40, 1:58:41]: And McDonna [1:58:41, 1:58:48]: Um, are intersecting with each other. And so the impact of what your decision is going to affect many in the community. [1:58:49, 1:58:53]: And you do not have the right data to make that decision today. [1:58:53, 1:58:54]: If you [1:58:54, 1:58:58]: push forward with this decision without that data, that is gonna be a poor decision. [1:58:59, 1:59:04]: We would recommend if you do not have the data to push this off till you get the right am amount of data. [1:59:04, 1:59:08]: Uh we have also contacted the uh superintendent of the schools. [1:59:09, 1:59:10]: Um and they have um [1:59:11, 1:59:12]: spoken to us about [1:59:12, 1:59:14]: The growth and development of this area. [1:59:15, 1:59:20]: That this infrastructure for the educational system will not be commensurate with this particular property. [1:59:20, 1:59:23]: So what we're trying to explain is that [1:59:23, 1:59:31]: Again, we're not opposed to growth, but if putting that amount a hundred and plus hundred and fifty plus homes in that area. [1:59:31, 1:59:33]: It's just going to um [1:59:33, 1:59:35]: Reaped disaster for our area and [1:59:36, 1:59:39]: The individuals that are proposing this, you don't have to live here. [1:59:39, 1:59:45]: So you don't have to to understand that we're gonna have to be here with that and that makes people move. [1:59:45, 1:59:47]: And that makes people want to go to other areas. [1:59:48, 1:59:56]: We don't want to move because we have really built our house to to live here for forever. So um [1:59:57, 2:00:03]: I just wanted to voice our concerns. Um, it has been extremely difficult to get our opposition to you guys. [2:00:04, 2:00:05]: А the emails have been coming back. [2:00:06, 2:00:13]: Just wanted to put that on record. And we were not aware that this was gonna be a Facebook live presentation. We were prepared for Zoom, so we were [2:00:13, 2:00:17]: Uh waiting for that, not uh and we weren't able to to join. [2:00:17, 2:00:18]: And um [2:00:19, 2:00:21]: You know, now I'm under Mark Jones's [2:00:21, 2:00:22]: presentation. So [2:00:23, 2:00:27]: Um, thank you for hearing us out. Um, and we hope that you vote no. [2:00:28, 2:00:30]: Thank you, Ms. Patrick. Kill Patrick, is that? [2:00:31, 2:00:31]: Thank you. [2:00:33, 2:00:35]: Uh anyone else out there? [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: Anyone else? Miss Wallace, you see anyone else? [2:00:42, 2:00:47]: Um Mark Jones has his hand up again and so does Mr. Um Gill. [2:00:48, 2:00:50]: Mr. Gill I think he just finished. [2:00:51, 2:00:52]: Yeah. But [2:00:52, 2:00:54]: Okay, all hands are down now. [2:00:54, 2:00:55]: All hands are down. [2:00:57, 2:01:00]: That being the case, we're gonna close the uh public um [2:01:01, 2:01:02]: Response, pardon me. [2:01:03, 2:01:23]: I'm sorry, Mr. Doell, do I get a any opportunity? This is Michelle Battle. Do I get any opportunity? All right. Well go I'll make it. I'll make it brief. No, no, go ahead. Okay. Um I I wanted to um respond to a couple of things. Um, number one, um, this property is um the last uh property at the end of uh the [2:01:23, 2:01:43]: City of Stockbridge off of Brandon Road on this portion of Brandon Road. Um we are uh in terms of uh the surrounding uh property owners, um particularly those who have um raised opposition tonight, um with no disrespect, they are um in unincorporated um [2:01:43, 2:02:03]: Henry County, um, which obviously has a board of commissioners and a planning commission that directs um their zoning and planning decisions. With regards to this piece of property, um, the land use designation um indicates um up to two units per acre. And I think there's a misnomer that when [2:02:03, 2:02:23]: people think two units per acre that means that each lot has to be uh you know 2700 square feet or some uh 27,000 square feet or something of that nature. Um that is in fact not the case. Um the two units um we are slightly over we know we're actually under two units per acre now um for this site that is based [2:02:23, 2:02:43]: On the gross density. We are consistent with the subdivisions that are located within the jurisdictional boundaries of the city of Stockbridge. The Clark Meadows subdivision has been the latest development. It was developed in 2007, and they are a [2:02:43, 2:03:03]: combination of R2 and R three that's in their plat. You can see that very clearly. The Moss Point community does have lots that are at a designation without looking any further. They are at a designation [2:03:03, 2:03:23]: of the R2. They are minimum lot area, yes, of 18,000 square feet. Their density is 1.99 units per acre, and we are now at 1.89 units per acre. So we are actually less in density than the Moss Point community. We have [2:03:23, 2:03:43]: To look at those communities that are located within the jurisdictional boundaries of the city. And so therefore we are consistent with those that are under your guidance and command. The 2007 Clark Meadows community, we have tried to improve upon what was built there. [2:03:42, 2:04:02]: Um we again have lots that are larger than their lots. Um we have uh four-sided brick homes, which are comparable to what they have in their communities. Um we have a wider breadth between the homes, as we've already pointed out. Um our price points will be consistent with what is in their community, and we know that the city. [2:04:02, 2:04:22]: Of Stockbridge is seeking to grow. They want to grow in a manner that is responsive to its citizenry. We know that the people who live in the Clark Meadows community are very pleased with their community, with how it functions and operates and how it [2:04:22, 2:04:42]: It looks and we heard from them very clearly that they wanted something that was no less comparable to what they have in their community, which is why we went back and we improved upon the amenity areas. We improved some of the things that they did indicate were um problematic to the terms of the closeness of the homes. And so instead [2:04:42, 2:05:02]: Instead of being 10 feet apart, our units are 20 feet apart. Our lots are wider than their lots. Our lots are bigger than their lots. So we believe that we have done everything that is consistent and desirable by the city of Stockbridge for its residents and citizens. That doesn't mean that those [2:05:02, 2:05:22]: Who are surrounding have no voice. But I think it is important to note that the vast majority of those, if not almost all, of those who commented tonight live within unincorporated um uh Henry County. And we have had uh two meetings um with regards to this project, they were all very well attended. [2:05:22, 2:05:42]: We did provide a copy of that information and the Zoom calls to the staff, and I believe that they have had an opportunity to review them. With regards to the traffic study, yes, we provided that traffic study, but it should be noted that zonings cannot be denied solely based on traffic-related issues. [2:05:42, 2:06:02]: traffic issues there we have spoken with um the city uh sorry um henry county um that is responsible for the mass majority of Brandon Road and also for um uh North Salem Road North Salem Road is not a city street um the county has its responsibilities we have raised those issues [2:06:02, 2:06:22]: um with them that the community has had about North Salem Road. A lot of the drainage issues that they have are because there are no detention features along there. There's no stormwater features along there. We will have all of that within our community. We are entitled to be able to bring sewer into this community. So this will [2:06:22, 2:06:42]: Be a sewered community similar to uh Clark Meadows, which comes at great expense to us to bring sewer into this project. So, with all due respect, we are asking again for a recommendation of approval based on the conditions provided by staff. Again, we are consistent with the land use plan um that has been promulgated. [2:06:42, 2:06:56]: by the city. And we are certainly consistent in less than the density that is already existing within the city of Stockbridge for the both Moss Point and Clark Meadows. Thank you. [2:06:56, 2:07:04]: Let me ask you this. Um, what kind of response did you get from Clark Meadows and uh Moss Point, I guess? Those those are the adjoining communities, correct? [2:07:05, 2:07:25]: Yes, sir. Um, when the the last meeting, and I've never said that we had 35 people in support, I'm not sure where that statement came from, but um on those um meetings, um we did have individuals that were on the call from there. Um we didn't take a poll of who was supportive or who was not. Um there was a lot of discussion about not being [2:07:25, 2:07:45]: Being less than Park Meadows in terms of the house style. There was someone who made a comment about the width between the homes. And so that was one of the things we wanted to make sure that we pointed out because we had to examine why their homes were so close together. We now know that they that there was. [2:07:44, 2:08:04]: Of variance that was obtained at the time that those homes were built that allowed them to be no more than 10 feet apart. And so that was one of the issues. We did receive some comments about the amenity areas. And so that's why we included the pool because there were comments. Well, you know, we have a pool, we have this, we have that. So we went back. We lost some lots. [2:08:04, 2:08:24]: Lots to drop the lot density and to beef up our amenity area such that we actually have two large amenity areas versus um Clark Meadows that only has one. And well, I didn't really hear anybody from Moss Point that I can recall. I don't mean to discount anyone, but I don't recall on that those. [2:08:24, 2:08:44]: Those calls, anyone directly from Moss Point speaking out. But I have driven through the communities. I know that in Moss Point, for example, they have homes that have some brick fronts, hardy plank sides on a number of their homes. So these homes will be, again, all four-sided brick, which is what was consistent with the Clark Meadows community. [2:08:44, 2:08:55]: community and what had been requested. And so we tried to honor the request that came um to make sure that we were no less than um the Clark Meadows and and the Moss Point communities. [2:08:55, 2:08:56]: Yeah. [2:08:58, 2:08:59]: Miss Nelson. [2:09:01, 2:09:03]: Mr Nelson, are you making a comment? [2:09:03, 2:09:06]: Yes, sir. I would like to um can you hear me? [2:09:07, 2:09:08]: Sure, yes I can. Okay. [2:09:09, 2:09:09]: Um [2:09:10, 2:09:10]: I [2:09:11, 2:09:12]: Want to say that I am uh [2:09:13, 2:09:24]: Definitely not an architect, um, but I really appreciate the comments that Mr. Dumas made. Um, the questions he asked broke it down so that someone who's not an architect could kind of understand what was going on. [2:09:24, 2:09:25]: Uh-oh. [2:09:25, 2:09:27]: So I've heard I've listened to all the comments tonight. [2:09:28, 2:09:38]: Um, I've read um a lot of the emails. I know someone was saying that um some of the emails may not have been sent, but uh Miss Linda did send out a lot of emails and I read over all the emails that were sent out. [2:09:39, 2:09:39]: Mm. [2:09:40, 2:09:54]: And I have to say, um, I'm I I'm just not convinced um that that that the issues about um congestion and um the issues that congestion would bring, any environmental issues, I I'm just not [2:09:54, 2:10:01]: I'm convinced that you know enough has been done to make sure that all the communities concerns are taken care of. [2:10:01, 2:10:09]: Um, so you know, I I we can discuss how we're gonna move further, but at this point I'm just not convinced that this is the best thing. [2:10:09, 2:10:16]: Um, to bring into stop bridge because of you know some of the things that haven't been done. And that's based on some of the questions that Mr. Doom has asked. [2:10:17, 2:10:37]: And a lot of the concerns that the community is bringing in, um, you know, the the the people got these homes and they were thinking it was going to be a certain way. And it just seems like some of the changes that that is gonna come is gonna be completely different than what they hadn't had envisioned when they had moved into the community. And you know, I'm all for growth and progress, um, but you [2:10:36, 2:10:41]: you know, you you I I just haven't been convinced that this is the best thing to bring into this area. [2:10:42, 2:10:50]: How do you feel about the fact that most of the people who made negative comments about the development are in unincorporated Henry County and not in Stockbridge? [2:10:51, 2:11:08]: And I and I saw that and I know that's a challenge for Henry County because, well, particular specifically for Stockbridge, because the way that it is, you know, you have places that are right next to Stockbridge that are uncomfortable. But that goes back to a um, you know, there's some comments that some people haven't been. [2:11:08, 2:11:14]: heard like they wanted to, you know, they thought it was going to be one meeting and it wasn't, and they've sent stuff and [2:11:14, 2:11:22]: Um it that we what weren't able to be heard. So I I'm I'm just not convinced that everybody was heard and that this is the best thing for the city. [2:11:23, 2:11:23]: All right. [2:11:25, 2:11:26]: Uh Miss Wallace? [2:11:28, 2:11:31]: Yeah, I I first I wanna say to Miss uh Miss Fleischmann. [2:11:32, 2:11:36]: The comment that you made about Elted Alexander um [2:11:36, 2:11:40]: Місте Александра газ е престол сам. [2:11:41, 2:11:44]: That same sentiment to me, and it was very much unappreciated. [2:11:45, 2:11:46]: Um [2:11:46, 2:11:51]: It has t to me that that was very inappropriate to say [2:11:51, 2:11:53]: You weren't uh [2:11:53, 2:11:55]: Pretty much he was calling you a racist without saying it. [2:11:56, 2:11:57]: Um [2:11:58, 2:12:00]: As far as this community goes. [2:12:00, 2:12:07]: This meeting, there would probably be at least forty additional people on this meeting. [2:12:07, 2:12:12]: If the technical side had been um properly addressed. [2:12:12, 2:12:13]: Um [2:12:13, 2:12:17]: There's probably many people, and I've heard from people who have. [2:12:18, 2:12:22]: phone me. Um don't know how to get my phone number, but they have [2:12:22, 2:12:24]: And they've sent me emails. [2:12:24, 2:12:30]: And they've tried to reach out to me um in different means who actually do live in that area. [2:12:30, 2:12:35]: And although some of the people on this call uh in unincorporated [2:12:36, 2:12:39]: Those people who have tried to reach out to me. [2:12:40, 2:12:46]: more or less are within the Stockbridge city limits and their sentiments are exactly the same. [2:12:46, 2:12:47]: Um [2:12:47, 2:12:54]: Ms. Nelson is is dead on for me. Um, I agree with her and in her statement. [2:12:55, 2:12:56]: And um [2:12:56, 2:13:03]: We're really here to support our city, but the our priority is to make sure our citizens are comfortable. [2:13:04, 2:13:06]: And that their rights are not being stepped on. [2:13:06, 2:13:07]: And they're protected. [2:13:08, 2:13:10]: And and at this point. [2:13:10, 2:13:12]: I agree with Miss Nelson. [2:13:12, 2:13:14]: I am not конst. [2:13:15, 2:13:16]: that um [2:13:16, 2:13:20]: That traffic study, and I don't try to discredit anyone. [2:13:21, 2:13:21]: Because [2:13:22, 2:13:23]: I have [2:13:23, 2:13:25]: Since this project has started [2:13:26, 2:13:30]: have rolled out there in the mornings when the schools are are open. [2:13:31, 2:13:32]: The buses are running. [2:13:33, 2:13:34]: It's not at full capacity. [2:13:35, 2:13:38]: But I've also spoken with people in the community. [2:13:39, 2:13:42]: And their description of the traffic. [2:13:43, 2:13:46]: До знак компетик стаді стається. [2:13:49, 2:13:51]: So um at this point [2:13:53, 2:13:57]: Аж кантсі м'яс бин конвіст да десь. [2:13:57, 2:14:00]: exact for this particular area. [2:14:01, 2:14:04]: And I know we will vote on it later, but [2:14:04, 2:14:09]: I'm willing to listen to any comments from the board members and and [2:14:09, 2:14:11]: Taking consideration what [2:14:11, 2:14:13]: But the other members [2:14:13, 2:14:14]: Who are [2:14:15, 2:14:18]: Some are engineers, some have expertise in law. [2:14:19, 2:14:22]: Uh, some have expertise in real estate have to say. [2:14:23, 2:14:24]: And we can talk this out, uh [2:14:26, 2:14:35]: tonight and try to find some type of solution or resolution for this community because this community is really stressed out and they're hurting because of [2:14:36, 2:14:38]: the potential or the probability of [2:14:38, 2:14:43]: Грот із конаком. А хав ареанек сто май. [2:14:43, 2:14:45]: That's under Henry County and [2:14:46, 2:14:48]: They're pretty much doing the same thing. [2:14:49, 2:14:49]: And [2:14:50, 2:14:55]: I had no voice in it because I live in Stockbridge and not unincorporated. [2:14:55, 2:14:59]: So it it makes um it's it's disheartening. [2:14:59, 2:15:05]: when you're the actual people who live in those areas and you actually are feeling the impact. [2:15:06, 2:15:08]: of what's being done around you. [2:15:09, 2:15:11]: So I'll yield back to Miss Abdullah. [2:15:11, 2:15:12]: Mr. Platchard. [2:15:14, 2:15:15]: Mr. Platchard. [2:15:17, 2:15:18]: Yeah. [2:15:19, 2:15:19]: Mr Platchard. [2:15:20, 2:15:21]: Can you [2:15:24, 2:15:27]: What about is Dumas is d Mr. Dumas? [2:15:28, 2:15:32]: Yeah, sorry, it wasn't unmuting. I was trying to [2:15:32, 2:15:35]: You have any comments? Do you have any comments? [2:15:35, 2:15:38]: Um I'm just a big sponge right now. [2:15:38, 2:15:43]: soaking everybody's opinions in. Um, I would I kind of wanted to know from the [2:15:43, 2:15:47]: neighborhood if anybody was not against this development. [2:15:50, 2:15:54]: Because it it's easy to be against something when it's gonna interrupt your [2:15:55, 2:15:58]: ten acres you've been on for thirty years and and [2:15:58, 2:16:03]: You wanna keep it that way, well, it ain't gonna stay that way. You just have to get used to it. [2:16:04, 2:16:06]: But I just wonder if there was anybody around [2:16:06, 2:16:10]: who lives in one of the adjacent neighborhoods who actually was not [2:16:10, 2:16:12]: Afraid of this development. [2:16:16, 2:16:18]: Mr. Dumas, are you available? [2:16:19, 2:16:20]: I am, but I'm [2:16:20, 2:16:22]: I don't think you can hear me. [2:16:23, 2:16:26]: I can hear you. I can't see you. You do hear me. [2:16:26, 2:16:31]: Okay. Yes, I do. All right. Let me start by [2:16:32, 2:16:45]: Well first of all, let me just uh give Mr. Thibodeau his credits. Uh Miss Nelson had indicated that I made some comments. Uh it was actually Mr. Thibodeau and I think he deserves the credit for that, not me. [2:16:46, 2:16:48]: Oh I apologize. No problem. [2:16:48, 2:16:51]: Let me start by saying thank you. [2:16:52, 2:16:54]: to the citizens. [2:16:55, 2:16:56]: Who have [2:16:58, 2:17:05]: spoken out, they have made their voices heard. Um I've sat on this commission. [2:17:06, 2:17:13]: since its inception. And Mr. Chairman, you y I think you and I are the longest two uh members on this commission. [2:17:13, 2:17:14]: That's correct. [2:17:14, 2:17:20]: And it's very rare that when we have matters before us. [2:17:21, 2:17:25]: that we get this much public input. [2:17:25, 2:17:43]: Most of the times when we have matters before the board, it's only the applicant and the staff. And we have to make decisions in that vacuum with very little input in most cases. Not all, but most cases, with very little input from the community. [2:17:44, 2:17:56]: And I just want to thank you, all of you. I've I sat in on one of these Zoom meetings that was held by Battle Law. I've I've gotten your emails. I've read them. [2:17:57, 2:18:10]: And I just want you to know that when I first received my initial notification of this project, this proposed project, um I took the opportunity to ride out. [2:18:10, 2:18:23]: And and take a look for myself, which is what I do anyway. And Mr. Abdullah, you may recall that I made a phone call to you and you were doing work from home and we couldn't talk. But I had a lot of the same concerns. [2:18:24, 2:18:36]: that the community has uh that I've listened to and some of the same concerns that that I have, I had from day one, even before I heard from you all. [2:18:36, 2:18:40]: Um, but I do want you to know one thing. [2:18:42, 2:18:47]: The planning commission's vote, however it goes, is not the final vote. [2:18:48, 2:18:50]: The uh [2:18:50, 2:18:53]: Governing authority, the City Council of Stockbridge. [2:18:53, 2:18:58]: Mm-hmm. Will make the final decision up or down on this project. [2:19:04, 2:19:06]: I hope they listen to us. [2:19:07, 2:19:10]: They often do, sometimes they don't. [2:19:11, 2:19:13]: But I I just felt it important. [2:19:13, 2:19:22]: To let you know that your fight is not over, because our decision is not the final decision. It's only a recommendation to the council. [2:19:23, 2:19:24]: That's correct. [2:19:24, 2:19:32]: Then I'd like to say thank you to Mr. Cabelli, the developer and his staff and his [2:19:33, 2:19:37]: professional people that he's employed to work with him. Um [2:19:40, 2:19:44]: It it means something that someone wants to do business. [2:19:46, 2:19:50]: in and with the city of Stockbridge. I don't take that lightly. [2:19:52, 2:20:07]: And I appreciate what you all are doing. I I recognize and I've observed the flexibility that I've seen in making some adjustments and trying to address the concerns that you're hearing from people. Um [2:20:09, 2:20:13]: And I don't take that lightly as well. I appreciate [2:20:14, 2:20:16]: What you've done thus far. [2:20:19, 2:20:38]: And I sense that from the conversations that that you would like for for us to narrow our focus strictly on jurisdictional principles and focus on the communities that that lie to the west of this parcel in question. [2:20:42, 2:20:44]: But my concept of community [2:20:45, 2:21:01]: transcends imaginary jurisdiction alliance. I have to consider the whole community, uh those people to the west, those people to the north, those people to the south, and those people to the east. [2:21:03, 2:21:04]: They are all neighbors. [2:21:05, 2:21:08]: We all neighbors and to me it [2:21:09, 2:21:11]: It's like Brandon Road. [2:21:12, 2:21:15]: Could very well be the modern day Jericho Road. [2:21:16, 2:21:20]: And for us, I think we have to decide. [2:21:21, 2:21:23]: Do we want to function like the priest? [2:21:24, 2:21:27]: Do we want to function like the Levite? [2:21:28, 2:21:30]: Or do we want to function like the Samaritan? [2:21:33, 2:21:35]: And with that, I'm prepared to vote. [2:21:36, 2:21:40]: Thank you. Well thank you, Mr. Domus. I got a few comments. Um [2:21:41, 2:21:42]: Initially [2:21:43, 2:21:47]: I thought this would be easy. Why? Because they wanted to go from a um [2:21:48, 2:21:50]: uh RA to um [2:21:51, 2:21:53]: I believe it's a R four or R three. [2:21:54, 2:21:59]: It was had to be an R four because uh they uh ha have increased the lot size. [2:22:00, 2:22:06]: Uh to go from an R A to uh to a R four. That's horrible. That's spot zoning. [2:22:07, 2:22:17]: That would be spot zoning. In other words, you have a particular parcel of land that is uh uh not in compatibility with the adjoining piece of property and you just dropped [2:22:17, 2:22:21]: a rocket ship down in the neighborhood. That's what it would be Tanamount too. [2:22:22, 2:22:26]: And so they've adjusted that and they've gone from from R four to an R three. [2:22:26, 2:22:30]: Which makes it a little more palatable because uh uh [2:22:31, 2:22:34]: the c the uh subdivision across is R two and R three. [2:22:35, 2:22:37]: And so that's a doable concept. [2:22:37, 2:22:38]: In terms of zoning. [2:22:40, 2:22:50]: However, when you look at the uh the uh comprehensive zoning, one of the first things they point out in one point zero four zero zero purpose and intent. The purpose and intent of the zoning code is one [2:22:51, 2:22:55]: To promote health, safety, aesthetics, convenience, order, prosperity, and the general welfare. [2:22:55, 2:22:59]: Of the present and future residents of the city of Stockrid. [2:23:01, 2:23:02]: Remember that. [2:23:03, 2:23:08]: To promote the health, safety, aesthetics, convenience, order, prosperity, and general welfare [2:23:08, 2:23:11]: of the present and future residents of the city of Stockbridge. [2:23:11, 2:23:13]: B minimize congestion. [2:23:14, 2:23:15]: On the public streets. [2:23:17, 2:23:19]: Minimize congestion on the public streets. [2:23:20, 2:23:26]: Uh prevent overcrowding of land, avoiding both undue concentration of population and urban sprawl. [2:23:30, 2:23:31]: They got me. [2:23:32, 2:23:33]: They got me. [2:23:35, 2:23:38]: And so with those uh provisions in mind. [2:23:40, 2:23:42]: Well the project is a nice project. [2:23:42, 2:23:45]: Uh it creates a bit of hostility. [2:23:46, 2:23:51]: Because the things that I just cited to you, they're not being met. And they they they they probably can be met. [2:23:52, 2:23:53]: They probably can't be met. [2:23:54, 2:23:55]: Um [2:23:55, 2:23:57]: One of the things I thought the you know, uh [2:23:58, 2:24:03]: uh unincorporated stock breed, but unincorporated stock breeds is adjacent to uh [2:24:03, 2:24:08]: Uh uh unembra uh unicovery Hen County is adjacent to Stockbridge. [2:24:09, 2:24:15]: And I would think that if they were engaged in some kind of development that they would consider the residents of Stock Ridge proper. [2:24:18, 2:24:19]: And so uh [2:24:21, 2:24:22]: I would be [2:24:23, 2:24:32]: r I'd be reluctant to support something like this. So I mean the people have made I've got a stack of emails that I've printed out and read. [2:24:33, 2:24:36]: Almost a bookful of emails. [2:24:36, 2:24:43]: on a regular basis, that doesn't account the telephone calls that I received. And how they got my telephone number and email is beyond me. [2:24:43, 2:24:47]: But I've gotten emails every day from different people about this project. [2:24:48, 2:24:50]: And you have to take that in consideration. [2:24:50, 2:24:59]: These people are being adversely impacted. At least that's their concept. I don't know if it whether it's actual or not, but they believe they're being adversely impacted by this development. [2:25:00, 2:25:04]: And as uh members of the planning commission, I think we have to take [2:25:04, 2:25:05]: Um [2:25:05, 2:25:08]: their position and consideration. It just not [2:25:10, 2:25:12]: Completely disregard their position. [2:25:12, 2:25:19]: You know, uh as Mr. Doom has pointed out, ours is only a recommendation. It's not found, it's the city council that will make the found decision on this. [2:25:21, 2:25:22]: And so with that in mind. [2:25:23, 2:25:24]: Um [2:25:27, 2:25:35]: I'd like to entertain a motion. This is Dave Planchin. Let me just add one thing. Sure. The property owner itself. [2:25:35, 2:25:40]: Will always have the option to request it to be de annexed from the city of Stockbridge. [2:25:42, 2:25:44]: Correct. They have they have that option. [2:25:46, 2:25:49]: Correct. I mean, like I say, it's not over. [2:25:49, 2:25:50]: It's not over. [2:25:51, 2:25:52]: So [2:25:53, 2:25:55]: With that in mind, I entertain emotion. [2:25:55, 2:26:00]: I motion to deny this proposal at this particular time. [2:26:00, 2:26:02]: I don't feel like it's fitting for. [2:26:02, 2:26:03]: Our community. [2:26:04, 2:26:05]: And I second it. [2:26:07, 2:26:18]: All right, it's been moved by Miss Wallace and second by Mr. Thibodeau that the application be denied for uh the uh zoning of uh of uh what is the number? [2:26:27, 2:26:35]: What is it? RZ 2020 O two, Brandon Road redesign re-rezoning application uh then to deny. [2:26:37, 2:26:40]: Um all those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [2:26:41, 2:26:41]: Right. [2:26:42, 2:26:43]: Those opposed? [2:26:44, 2:26:48]: Hearing none, the eyes have the motion is carried, the application is denied. [2:26:51, 2:26:53]: Any other business? [2:26:57, 2:27:03]: Uh Mr. Abdula, uh this is Randy Knighton, city manager, if I may, make one announcement. Sure. [2:27:03, 2:27:13]: Thank you, sir. And all all as always, thank you to the Planning Commission for your great service. And of course, we appreciate the citizens and their input tonight. [2:27:14, 2:27:17]: I would like to uh mention to the Planning Commission and to those listening. [2:27:18, 2:27:21]: That on uh Tuesday evening the city council did confirm. [2:27:21, 2:27:25]: Uh my recommendation for a new community development director. [2:27:26, 2:27:28]: By the name of Breca Johnson. [2:27:28, 2:27:33]: She has extensive experience. Uh began much of her career in Henry County. [2:27:33, 2:27:36]: І за плана ОН і плана Тут Henry County was also. [2:27:37, 2:27:39]: Uh planning director at the city of Morrow. [2:27:39, 2:27:41]: And uh her most recent [2:27:42, 2:27:43]: Now position. [2:27:43, 2:27:46]: А з асистент коммуніти девелмент директор for [2:27:47, 2:27:48]: Clayton County. [2:27:48, 2:28:00]: Uh she has tremendous experience, um highly recommended, and I'm sure you will enjoy working with her. I look forward to her uh starting soon, uh probably sometime in mid-March. [2:28:00, 2:28:10]: And uh we look forward to uh the experience and knowledge, expertise that she will bring to the city of Stockbridge. And we look forward to you having an opportunity to meet her soon. [2:28:11, 2:28:13]: Thank you. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. [2:28:13, 2:28:14]: I think. [2:28:15, 2:28:18]: Having no other business, may I have a motion to adjourn? [2:28:21, 2:28:22]: Motion to adjourn. [2:28:23, 2:28:24]: And I second it. [2:28:25, 2:28:31]: Uh Ms. Wallace moves to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Thibodeau seconds. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [2:28:32, 2:28:34]: Aye. Aye. Those opposed. [2:28:35, 2:28:37]: The eyes have it, the the motion is carried. [2:28:37, 2:28:46]: Thank you all. And um really appreciate everyone's input in this regard because this has been a really, really interesting piece. [2:28:46, 2:28:48]: They come before us. [2:28:48, 2:28:53]: Uh never have we had this much uh uh community input. [2:28:53, 2:28:59]: uh on a matter like this and i'm sure if we were meeting physically uh it would be jam packed out there. [2:29:00, 2:29:05]: And so uh for that reason I think we've been kind of blessed. But I can assure you that I have [2:29:07, 2:29:10]: ton of emails every day. [2:29:11, 2:29:15]: opposing this and how they got my email address and telephone number telephone number. [2:29:16, 2:29:18]: They've called less several times. I just don't [2:29:18, 2:29:20]: Respond. They just leave messages. [2:29:20, 2:29:38]: But uh I didn't think that was a good idea. Who so whoever gave them our per personal emails and telephone number, uh, you know, that that was really uh a a poor decision. But be that as it may, the people made themselves heard. And um I think our obligations with the people and I think we serve them. [2:29:39, 2:29:40]: And with that said. [2:29:40, 2:29:50]: I actually had a lot of concerns about the phone calls as well, and I actually reached out to uh Mr. Knight and asked him about the appropriateness of me responding. [2:29:50, 2:29:56]: And um definitely received guidance from him and the city attorney, which is much appreciated because [2:29:57, 2:30:06]: With the planning board, one thing that we are always fixed on is staying above board. And something that we definitely want to keep mindful. [2:30:07, 2:30:15]: Um like I was advised, citizens can talk to us about whatever they want to, but we have to be very careful and stay within the [2:30:15, 2:30:21]: Our our uh lanes when we're speaking to citizens because we don't want a preconcession that [2:30:22, 2:30:26]: Um decisions were made prior to the meeting and we actually [2:30:27, 2:30:40]: are able to hear the petitioner out and listen to both sides and clearly understand what's being put in front of us. But I definitely hope and pray that if there's another matter that comes in front of us that [2:30:40, 2:30:45]: Whomever may be involved at the citizen reach out as the Brandon Road residents did. [2:30:45, 2:30:56]: And let us get their true opinions. And and that way when it's all said and done, they know they've done their work and they know they were able to put their their story out there where we can hear it. [2:30:56, 2:31:02]: Stuckbridge is a great place to be and we want to keep it that way. And we certainly appreciate all the citizens. [2:31:02, 2:31:06]: Well one of the things, uh someone uh I don't know if Mr. Planchard [2:31:07, 2:31:10]: Brought up a ex parte uh encounter. [2:31:10, 2:31:24]: An ex parte encounter is when one side meets with a judge or other side without the benefit of having the opposition present. That is an ex parte meeting. Generally they're illegal, especially in the judicial arena. [2:31:24, 2:31:29]: But uh um again, I mean this was a good exercise all around. [2:31:30, 2:31:33]: All around. And like I said, I got [2:31:34, 2:31:42]: A book of emails. I mean, every day. Uh in fact the guy who said he wanna thank me, I have no idea who he is, but he did send me an email. [2:31:43, 2:31:49]: He had sent me an email, you know. So you know. Brilliant. He thanked us all. [2:31:50, 2:31:58]: Uh but uh beat it as it may. Emails are fine because you don't have to respond to them. I don't respond to'em. I don't confirm one with [2:31:58, 2:32:06]: Yep. A telephone call or somebody wants to have conversation with you about an issue is off the record. That's a no no. No that's a no no. [2:32:07, 2:32:11]: That is I remind them of that too. Yeah. Yeah. Well [2:32:12, 2:32:23]: I uh my policy is that uh I don't wanna respond to anything like that because you can probably say something that you didn't mean to say or they get the impression that you supporting them when you're not. [2:32:23, 2:32:35]: Uh, etcetera. So I don't respond to the telephone calls, I don't respond to the emails. But I do ex I I don't have any choice but to accept'em because they're there. Yeah. But uh [2:32:35, 2:32:38]: Miss Abdullah and you know. [2:32:39, 2:32:48]: You guys are very open. You have that open door approach to where if we have questions that we can come to you and and receive the clarification that we need. [2:32:48, 2:32:50]: And I definitely did. [2:32:50, 2:32:56]: depend on you all to get that clarification. So much appreciation is is a both out of the [2:32:58, 2:33:01]: Mr. Knight, may I ask you a question, please? [2:33:03, 2:33:04]: Mr. Knight. Yes, sir. [2:33:05, 2:33:09]: Um the issue about Councilman Alexander. [2:33:11, 2:33:21]: Uh that that that behavior is inappropriate for a councilman, you know. I mean I I um we're um I I've I've heard the comments uh that were rendered tonight. [2:33:22, 2:33:27]: Um and I will have the appropriate conversations. Obviously I don't want to get into anything [2:33:27, 2:33:33]: uh here with respect No, no, I'm just saying I'm just I just wanted to bring it out that that was [2:33:34, 2:33:36]: I inappropriate. In fact, that's him calling me right now. [2:33:37, 2:33:37]: And I've [2:33:38, 2:33:42]: I've heard the c I've heard I've heard the conversations this evening and uh the appropriate [2:33:42, 2:33:45]: Discussions and conversations uh will be had. [2:33:46, 2:33:46]: Okay. [2:33:47, 2:33:52]: Hey, all right. We had a good round. I think it was a good exercise. I mean, I think we did the citizens good, so [2:33:53, 2:33:54]: Good night. [2:33:55, 2:33:57]: Thank you. Bye bye.

--- title: Public Facilities Authority Meeting date: 2021-02-25 source: 2021-02-25_Public_Facilities_Authority_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:01, 0:00:03]: Okay, so [0:00:13, 0:00:15]: Okay, so we are now live. [0:00:17, 0:00:18]: All right. [0:00:19, 0:00:21]: And Jeremy should be jumping on in just a second as well. [0:00:21, 0:00:23]: Okay, sure, appreciate it. [0:01:06, 0:01:07]: Robert. [0:01:12, 0:01:14]: Mr. Copec, good morning to you, sir. [0:01:15, 0:01:16]: Good morning, Mayor Ford. [0:01:17, 0:01:32]: Hey, I want you to know, sir, that uh I've had conversations with uh Mr. Culpepper briefly this morning and he will not be on the meeting. So you are, sir, by our last meeting notes, uh, you which we have to prove today, you are the vice chair. [0:01:33, 0:01:37]: So I'll work with you to facilitate the meeting as best as possible, okay? [0:01:38, 0:01:39]: Yes, sir. [0:01:39, 0:01:40]: Right. Good deal. Thank you. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: And actually uh [0:01:47, 0:01:56]: Actually, we actually now it's actually now nine o'clock. Actually, and we have a quorum, is my understanding, quorum is uh four. [0:01:57, 0:02:02]: And we have four members of the PFA online. [0:02:03, 0:02:10]: And since we are live, how you doing, Miss U Rainey? So since we have a quorum, we'll uh go ahead and get started. [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: Um [0:02:12, 0:02:18]: So Mr. Kopeck, if you don't mind, I will call the meeting in order at this point if that's good with you. Well since we have a quorum, is that good, sir? [0:02:18, 0:02:38]: Yes, sir. Okay. On that note, also I'll do a quick uh invocation as well. Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again for a wonderful meeting. Allow us to make good logical decisions for the betterment of our citizens and our city. Allow us to have straight, good dialogue if we continue to do the the best things for our community and going forward and helping. [0:02:38, 0:02:43]: help it grow and become a greater city than it is today. Be us always Lord in your name. Amen. [0:02:44, 0:02:45]: Yeah. [0:02:45, 0:03:05]: And we also have a pledge. So typically typically when we have our council meeting, we stand up, but I know Mr. Kopek is in his car. I don't want I know he can't stand up. So if you don't mind, we'll just go ahead and we'll say the um the actual pledge by sitting at this point, okay? I pledge allegiance to the United States of the United States. [0:03:05, 0:03:10]: America. And to the republic is staying legal staying. [0:03:10, 0:03:13]: One nation. Under nation under God. [0:03:14, 0:03:18]: Indivisible. Indivisible. Liberty. Liberty and justice for all. For all. [0:03:19, 0:03:35]: All right. Obviously it wasn't well coordinated. I didn't sit up and give hand signals and everything, but we got it done. Okay. Um I need a roll call. Uh roll call will be next. And uh Ms. Rainey, you're gonna do that for us? [0:03:37, 0:03:38]: Can't hear you. [0:03:44, 0:03:47]: Can I still can't hear Miss Rainey? Okay. [0:04:02, 0:04:05]: What about now? Can you hear me? Got you now. Good deal. Yes, ma'am. [0:04:06, 0:04:07]: Can you guys hear me? [0:04:07, 0:04:09]: Yes we can. Yes ma'am we can hear you. No. [0:04:10, 0:04:11]: No, we can hear you. [0:04:11, 0:04:14]: Okay, okay, she can okay. [0:04:15, 0:04:16]: I can't hear you though. [0:04:18, 0:04:18]: How about now? [0:04:19, 0:04:21]: Okay, well let me do the roll call. [0:04:21, 0:04:22]: Okay. [0:04:25, 0:04:27]: Um part of the agenda. [0:04:28, 0:04:30]: Mr. Abdullah. [0:04:35, 0:04:37]: Mr. Abdullah, is he here? [0:04:38, 0:04:41]: Mr. Abdullah on our planning commission. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Yeah, it is I can't hear. [0:04:43, 0:04:48]: Yes. Okay. Okay. I'll tell you what. She can't hear. So let let me let me let May Mayor Ford. I'll I'll do this. I'll do this. All right. [0:04:49, 0:04:51]: Uh therefore, obviously I'm present, okay? [0:04:51, 0:04:56]: So uh or or call pepper is not present. [0:04:56, 0:05:05]: Uh Miss Aldula is uh not online. Uh T Edwards Collins is not online. Uh Miss George is present. [0:05:06, 0:05:09]: And uh Miss Jones is present. [0:05:09, 0:05:18]: And a vice chair, which is Mr. Kopek, is also present. So it's four members of the PFA that are present. My understanding that a quorum is four. [0:05:19, 0:05:20]: Uh [0:05:20, 0:05:23]: So we can have a actual meeting in this case. [0:05:24, 0:05:25]: Okay. [0:05:25, 0:05:27]: Um now. [0:05:28, 0:05:46]: I would think that uh Rainey heard me, even though we couldn't uh I hope that she heard me. If not, uh I've got this written down of of who's present for this aspect. And uh Ms. Kopeck, uh please make note of who was present as well. Um the next thing would be to uh approve today's agenda. [0:05:47, 0:05:55]: Uh now what I like to do is make a motion to amend the agenda because what we have to do, folks, is we have to decide. [0:05:55, 0:05:59]: uh on our actual attorney that we want for uh the PFA. [0:05:59, 0:06:04]: So I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda and have and if once that's approved, that that's approved. [0:06:05, 0:06:08]: Have that after we uh ha put that right after we have the [0:06:08, 0:06:11]: A reading of the approval of the minutes from our last meeting. [0:06:12, 0:06:13]: Is there a second? [0:06:14, 0:06:14]: Second. [0:06:15, 0:06:20]: Okay, uh mess I saw Mr. Kopek's hands. You know, he'll uh he's second that motion. Um [0:06:22, 0:06:42]: And then so what all in favor the mo all in favor of this motion, please indicate, raise your hand or speak. Okay, so I got a unanimous decision on that. Okay, fine. So what we'll do is we'll put that at the uh right after uh the um approval of the minutes from December 10th. Um but uh and then before we [0:06:42, 0:06:54]: talk about new business. Okay. And so what is next? And Miss Rainey, can you can you still speak or hear? Can you hear us? I can hear you, but I don't know if you guys can hear me. Yes, we can hear you. [0:06:54, 0:07:02]: Okay, the Okay, all right. So so uh now that you can hear it to so did you take copious notes of of the attendance and who was Yes. [0:07:02, 0:07:04]: You got everybody who's here, right? [0:07:04, 0:07:04]: Yeah. [0:07:05, 0:07:08]: We have four okay, good deal. So what's next would be the [0:07:08, 0:07:09]: approval [0:07:09, 0:07:21]: of the December 10th uh meeting minutes December 10th of 2019 was the last time uh that we met and unfortunately due to the pandemic and things of that nature. Uh so on that note [0:07:22, 0:07:37]: Uh I I I've m hope that you all already received all those minutes and that you read through them and are good with you. So I if that's the case, I need a motion to uh accept uh the uh minutes of December 10th, uh, 2019. [0:07:39, 0:07:39]: Yeah. [0:07:40, 0:07:42]: Okay, Ms. Kopeck, you making a motion on that, sir? [0:07:42, 0:07:46]: Yes, yes. Okay to accept the minutes. Okay. Is there is there a second? [0:07:49, 0:07:57]: Uh Miss Jones second then. Okay, fantastic. Okay. If there's no further discussion, all in favor of approving the minutes from December 10th, 2019, please indicate. [0:07:57, 0:08:17]: Yay, yay. Okay, it's unanimous decision. Fantastic. Okay. Now we'll now we'll talk in in reference the added uh thing here, item here would be in reference to the PFA attorney. Um now in the pre previously, as you had Cineminutes indicated, our attorney was our city attorney for the PFA was the actual city attorney. [0:08:17, 0:08:37]: Mike Williams. And um now what is what has occurred, Mike Williams is no longer the city attorney for the city of Stockbridge. Uh we've hired the city of Stockbridge, it's gone a different direction to hire a different law firm, Bail and Washington, um, in this aspect. Um, but it's up to the PFA if you wanted, even though must Mr. Williams has been familiar with the case and and and [0:08:37, 0:08:54]: and and and working with us, uh, it's up to the PFA whether or not you wanna retain uh Mr. Williams as an independent contractor attorney for the PFA or whether or not you wanna go with the city's attorneys, which is Bell and Washington, which we actually hired as the city attorneys two days ago. [0:08:55, 0:09:15]: And a recommendation for continuity purposes of this of the same process when we had our original city attorney with the PFA would be to go with Bell and Washington as the recommended choice at this time. But it is still up to the PFA to uh make that decision. Uh so I want there are four of us here as a quorum. [0:09:14, 0:09:30]: So I just want to get your ideas and thoughts on whether or not you want to go with the recommended recommended attorneys for the PFA as as for this as the city attorneys, or you want to remain as an independent attorney with Mr. Mike Williams. Any thoughts from yes, yes, Mike, go ahead, sir. [0:09:30, 0:09:44]: Um I just wanted to speak just briefly about that. Um normally normally I would I would suggest that for continuity, as you indicated, there's no reason to have a separate city attorney from the PFA attorney. [0:09:44, 0:09:49]: Um however in this case, you know, I've helped the team advance the ball down to the five yard line and [0:09:50, 0:09:53]: My uh request is that you allow me to uh [0:09:54, 0:09:58]: You know, run the ball over the goal line and and finish this project. [0:09:58, 0:10:11]: There's been a lot that's occurred to this point and there's still some things that need to be get done and I can assist the authority as well as the new city attorneys in finishing this out very smoothly. And so that's my request. [0:10:18, 0:10:38]: You your your own meeting mayor. Yeah, I just I just got it. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. I appreciate it. Um well well uh members of the PFA, I mean what what are your desires? What is your conversation? How how what did you wanna um do with this in this aspect? How do you wanna handle this? Do you wanna stay with Mike Williams or would you wanna go and actually our new attorneys are online right now if [0:10:38, 0:10:47]: if if they're selected, they'll remain online and and Mike would get off or vice versa. But I just wanted to ask you what what are your thoughts? There is a recommendation, but what are your individual thoughts? [0:10:50, 0:10:52]: Mr. Kopeck, is the vice chair, sir? What are your thoughts, sir? [0:10:53, 0:11:11]: My thoughts is uh Mr. Williams has had it, um, has done well with it. And I know his contract didn't get renewed with the city. Um, and then I also go with the recommendation. If the recommendation is to switch to law firms as long as there's you know, continuity, that would be the best uh idea is to follow the recommendation. [0:11:12, 0:11:18]: Okay, so you've you're saying you re follow recommendations, is what your your thoughts are there. Yes. Okay. All right. Ms. Jones, do you have any ideas and thoughts? [0:11:20, 0:11:22]: Um my idea is that um [0:11:23, 0:11:23]: Okay. [0:11:24, 0:11:27]: I I I can't can't can't hear can you turn up your volume, please? [0:11:28, 0:11:28]: Any down? [0:11:29, 0:11:31]: Uh uh could you turn up your volume, please? Okay. [0:11:39, 0:11:42]: Can you hear me now? Okay, so but that's better. Go ahead. [0:11:43, 0:11:47]: Um because of the wheels have problems with me with it. [0:11:49, 0:11:50]: Hello. [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Okay. [0:11:51, 0:11:56]: Um I have a powerful I think possibly perfectly. [0:11:56, 0:11:57]: Okay. [0:11:57, 0:12:03]: I'm sorry, Ms. Jones. Somehow you you're coming in and out. I I've I've it's hard to hard to hard to hear you, hard to hear what you're saying. [0:12:03, 0:12:04]: Mr. Elson. [0:12:04, 0:12:05]: Is this better? [0:12:06, 0:12:10]: It's a little it's a little better now. I don't know if you're too far back initially or not, but [0:12:10, 0:12:12]: Now now I can't hear you. [0:12:13, 0:12:13]: Yeah. [0:12:13, 0:12:16]: Now now we can. If you stay yes. [0:12:16, 0:12:24]: All right, I was saying that because Mr. Williams has started with us and we are a uh a board, I I would like to continue to work with Mr. Williams. [0:12:25, 0:12:27]: We project in the [0:12:27, 0:12:31]: Now we can say uh he talked about that. [0:12:31, 0:12:32]: What? [0:12:33, 0:12:40]: Okay. So if I understand you right, Miss Jones, you would rather remain with Mr. Williams since he's had the project thus far. Okay. Miss George. [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: Excuse me, you are [0:12:44, 0:13:04]: Yes, sir. Mr. Ebbs. Uh Mr. I've been here the whole time, but for some reason I couldn't talk or anything. But I I was here even before you did the role. Uh but nonetheless, I just want to let you know I am present. I I had to keep logging off to finally get in. Thank you, Mr. Collins. I appreciate that. Uh Miss Rainey, uh could you note it's nine eleven and Mr. Collins has officially [0:13:04, 0:13:17]: join the meeting. Um and uh we're discussing our attorneys right now, uh Mr. Collins. So okay. I I've I've heard it all. I've heard the whole conversation. Since you since you are talking then sir, what are your what are your concerns? What do you what would you like to do? [0:13:18, 0:13:20]: Well uh what what would be [0:13:21, 0:13:25]: any alternative other and and understand that uh of course Mr. Williams is as [0:13:26, 0:13:30]: He's carried the ball as you said to the down to the five yard line, but uh [0:13:31, 0:13:32]: What would be [0:13:33, 0:13:37]: Is there any alternative there? And and that's a question. Is there is there uh [0:13:38, 0:13:42]: uh someone already capable of doing the work or some I mean [0:13:43, 0:14:03]: Well what it amounts to is that the the incoming let me answer this if I can. The inc our incoming law firm uh would be briefed up, has been briefed up and and willing to carry the ball if need be. If that's the decision of the of the public uh facilities authority, they can handle that. They'll be all right. But the point of it is is it's your decision as a group here, there's five of us here, and and whether what you will [0:14:03, 0:14:23]: want to do. I just wanted to uh make sure you understand it and you have you make the decision because it is your decision and and uh in this aspect so it's it's uh and I'm pretty sure all of all the attorneys that are here are very professional individuals so whatever the whatever the the PFA decides we'll move out and move forward and we'll keep and getting this job done. [0:14:23, 0:14:26]: So uh since we are talking, what what are your concerns, sir? [0:14:27, 0:14:35]: Well, no no real concerns other than uh if if if Mr. Williams has been has been paid for the job. [0:14:35, 0:14:39]: Then of course I think he should carry it across the good finish line, if not. [0:14:39, 0:14:41]: And if there is going to be a need to pay. [0:14:41, 0:14:46]: An additional attorney uh to come back and take over pick up where he left off. [0:14:46, 0:14:48]: And of course, I don't like that idea. [0:14:49, 0:15:06]: Okay. Well I I I don't I can't I can't really answer about the payment aspect of th uh thus far that I know off the top of my head, but I mean he Williams has been currently been working that, but the point of it is is whether or not the the the P PFA wants to change this or not or or change what the in if I I I I [0:15:07, 0:15:14]: Okay, then I I then vote to I keep Mr. Williams. Okay. All right. Uh okay. Uh Miss George, your thoughts, please. [0:15:15, 0:15:19]: Um good morning. Morning. Um I too uh had [0:15:20, 0:15:38]: uh questions about um I know that the new attorneys have been briefed up um by uh regarding the the work of the PFA, but um with regard to where we are in the process, I think it would probably be better for continuity to continue with Mr. Williams. [0:15:39, 0:15:40]: Okay. [0:15:40, 0:15:57]: So be it, if that's if that is the case. So uh we've had this discussion. Uh so let's uh let uh Mr. Copet, if if you don't mind, uh we'll put this to an official vote since everybody has spoken in this aspect on whether to retain uh Mr. Williams or go another way. Is that all right with you, sir? [0:15:58, 0:15:58]: Yes, sir. [0:15:59, 0:16:00]: Okay, so um [0:16:01, 0:16:02]: Um [0:16:02, 0:16:21]: I'll I'll tell you what, I'll I'll I'll make the motion this base. Uh I'll make a motion that uh that the PFA would uh retain Mr. Williams uh at this time to finish out this process uh for uh the bond issues that we're dealing with now and versus changing the attorneys. Is there a second to that motion? [0:16:23, 0:16:24]: Can Miss Jones seconds that motion? [0:16:24, 0:16:26]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:16:28, 0:16:48]: One, two, three. Okay. Uh Mr. Mr. LK4. All right. So so miss so in this case, Mr. Williams, based on the PFA making own independent decision, uh, you will retain be retained as an independent contractor to work with the PFA to work through the process of these bonds. And in the process of that, Mr. Washington and Jen. [0:16:48, 0:17:08]: Jeremy, uh Mr. Berry, um uh the PFA as you were listening, uh made this particular decision to move forward, Mr. Williams. Obviously, you you you will still have involvement. You're still our attorney for the city, and assassin will continue to be so for hopefully many, many years. Um so on that note, um I would I would think that um [0:17:08, 0:17:19]: I don't know if it's really necessary for you. I mean, I don't know if it's necessary for you gentlemen to be online. If you want to continue to be online, I imagine to be fine, but uh in this aspect, if you want to remain, because it deals with the city in this aspect as well. [0:17:20, 0:17:40]: Okay. Um on that note, Mr. Nighton, uh I uh I'd like for you to, if you can, sir, uh before we get a new business, if you can at least introduce uh our uh uh our uh Ed Wall and uh explain his position and things of this nature. And I see Mr. Doug Selby, I don't see him on unless he's on the telephone. [0:17:39, 0:17:55]: I don't see them online here. Um, but uh if you can uh introduce these gentlemen, please, if you can. Or the individual. Sure. Um Doug Selby, his uh bond counsel is not on currently on the line, but Ed Wall is Ed Wall is [0:17:55, 0:17:57]: Our financial advisor. [0:17:57, 0:18:02]: Um and uh he and Mr. Selby and their groups have uh structured everything as it relates to [0:18:03, 0:18:05]: uh the amphitheatre [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: Cultural Arts Center. [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: uh trail [0:18:08, 0:18:11]: програм and also uh the [0:18:11, 0:18:12]: At the [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: uh development of police department. [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: Bond financing. [0:18:16, 0:18:20]: The council has approved uh twenty five milyen dollars. [0:18:20, 0:18:23]: Um for uh the completion of the amphitheater. [0:18:24, 0:18:26]: Um for a cultural arts center. [0:18:26, 0:18:30]: Um and uh a trail uh program. [0:18:30, 0:18:33]: uh as well as the beginning of a police department. [0:18:33, 0:18:37]: Севен мільйон формтеатр комплечь. [0:18:37, 0:18:39]: Fourteen miljon for cultural art center. [0:18:40, 0:18:42]: One million for trail program. [0:18:42, 0:18:47]: And three million for the start of a police department, a city police department. [0:18:48, 0:18:49]: Which was approved by the council. [0:18:50, 0:18:56]: By virtue of that, the financial advisor and again the bond council have structured how those bonds [0:18:56, 0:18:59]: Three series of bonds a series A, B, and C. [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: Um, how that would be structured and how uh they could move forward. [0:19:03, 0:19:06]: based on interest rates and financing. [0:19:06, 0:19:10]: uh over the next uh several years, including about fifteen years total. [0:19:10, 0:19:15]: Mister Wall is here. Uh, he certainly can uh provide you with uh details. [0:19:16, 0:19:20]: Of what is being requested of you as a public facilities authority. [0:19:21, 0:19:23]: as it relates to uh bond financing. [0:19:24, 0:19:25]: Mr. Wall. [0:19:25, 0:19:30]: Thank you very much, Mr. Knight. And I see down at the bottom there's a 404-888 number. [0:19:30, 0:19:35]: That's uh hunt and curse number. Is that you, Ben, or is it Doug? [0:19:36, 0:19:37]: Whoever it is is on mute. [0:19:41, 0:19:43]: The eight eight eight four oh one seven. [0:19:47, 0:19:48]: How? [0:19:49, 0:19:58]: whoever it is they ain't showing themselves. But I think that's Hunt and Curse number. But anyhow, Doug Selby is a bond lawyer. He's drafted up the paperwork that you all are um [0:19:58, 0:20:15]: um to consider this morning. Uh I'm Ed Wall. I'm your financial advisor. Uh I handle uh crunching all the numbers and um finding the buyer for the bonds. Uh you have before you a bond resolution this morning to approve the issuance of three series of bonds. And um [0:20:16, 0:20:18]: We've uh sold them to Truist Bank. [0:20:18, 0:20:22]: And um the series A bonds are four year maturity. [0:20:23, 0:20:29]: Um it funds the amphitheater for seven million and two point eight million of the cultural arts center. [0:20:30, 0:20:33]: It's four year maturity because it's gonna be paid from splash to five. [0:20:34, 0:20:35]: And um [0:20:35, 0:20:38]: The interest rate on it is one point three two percent. [0:20:38, 0:20:42]: You have before you a series B bond issue for one million. [0:20:43, 0:20:47]: That bond issue is for the portion of the trail network. [0:20:47, 0:20:52]: It's four years payable from splos five. The interest rate's one point oh four percent. [0:20:54, 0:20:56]: And then you have a series C bond issue. [0:20:57, 0:21:00]: This the rest of the cultural arts center, eleven million in change. [0:21:01, 0:21:03]: It is three million for police equipment. [0:21:04, 0:21:08]: It is a fifteen year bond issue payable from the general fund. [0:21:09, 0:21:12]: It has an interest rate of two point five three percent. [0:21:13, 0:21:17]: And you have the right after five years to prepay it without any penalty. [0:21:17, 0:21:24]: And the reason we did it that way is when you vote splot six, you may want to include this project in splot six and pay it off early. [0:21:24, 0:21:27]: And we fixed it up so you would do it without any prepayment penalty. [0:21:28, 0:21:33]: And uh with that I'd turn it over to Mike who can talk about any specifics y'all might have. [0:21:34, 0:21:40]: Yeah, I'm it I'm Mr. Mayor Doug Selby is on the line now, too. How you doing, Mr. Selby? [0:21:40, 0:21:51]: I'm fine. I'm sorry. I was on the line, but you couldn't hear me for some reason. I was speaking and it just couldn't the audio didn't come through. So I joined another way. Thank you. Great. I thought it was you, Doug. [0:21:52, 0:21:57]: Yeah, I think Ben is on as well, but I think he may be in the same situation, can't speak for some reason. [0:21:58, 0:21:58]: Okay. [0:21:59, 0:21:59]: All right. [0:22:00, 0:22:12]: Is anything that right now? Mr. Mayor, I Okay, good. Doug is probably in a position to answer some of the questions that you may have. I would just observe that when we put the agenda together, we have the [0:22:12, 0:22:18]: uh individual series of bonds listed individually, but the bond resolution as drafted [0:22:19, 0:22:25]: Um covers all three series of bonds as well as the uh forms of the intergovernmental agreements with the city. [0:22:25, 0:22:26]: Um and and [0:22:27, 0:22:30]: the the it's structured as a lease agreement. So the [0:22:31, 0:22:34]: Title to the facilities will be in the name of [0:22:34, 0:22:45]: the public facilities authority, um, pursuant to a lease with the city and the and the lease payment obligations are sufficient to pay debt service on the bonds. And so [0:22:45, 0:22:52]: Um, all you will need is one vote on the bond resolution uh for this morning. [0:22:53, 0:22:53]: Okay. [0:22:54, 0:22:55]: All right, thank you for [0:22:55, 0:23:02]: What okay, so that'd be one vote for all okay, make sure I understand one vote for all three. Is that what you're getting? All right, Mr. Selby. [0:23:03, 0:23:13]: Did you add anything else, sir? Go ahead. No no, not nothing else to add other than uh, you know, the the resolution as as Mr. Williams has indicated would cover and approve. [0:23:13, 0:23:29]: uh the issuance of the bonds and the execution and delivery of intergovernmental agreements, each of which is attached to the bond resolution with the one vote. In terms of the process from this point forward, [0:23:29, 0:23:46]: Once this resolution is adopted, uh we would ask uh that we be able to work with the PFA attorney in commencing validation proceedings in the superior court. That will take approximately three weeks, after which time we'll be in a position to close. [0:23:47, 0:23:58]: Uh there'll be a series of closing documents and certificates that will have to be delivered. Um we'll need legal opinions, one from the city, one from DDA's council, and one from my firm. [0:23:58, 0:24:01]: А вели від респект то entire transaction. [0:24:01, 0:24:09]: There one series of these bonds is tax exempt. So there'll be a tax certificate that we'll also need to have executed and delivered. [0:24:09, 0:24:14]: But with that, um I you know I think this this resolution approves. [0:24:14, 0:24:22]: Final rates. So the rates that are set forth in the agreement are the ones that are going to be approved, and I'm available to answer answer any questions. [0:24:23, 0:24:29]: Absolutely. Uh thank you, Mr. Shelby and Mr. Wall, uh and and Mike here. Okay. So [0:24:30, 0:24:38]: Commission. I mean, do what kind of questions, Mr. Colpick, anybody questions you have for these gentlemen questions that you may have before we take this uh of official vote? [0:24:39, 0:24:42]: And questions of concerns, things that you may be unc uncertain about. [0:24:44, 0:24:52]: Yeah, on on bond C, the uh interest rates uh a little bit higher than the others. Is that because of the 15 year mark with the five year kick out? [0:24:52, 0:24:53]: Yes, sir. [0:24:53, 0:24:54]: That's it exactly. [0:24:57, 0:24:58]: Anybody else? [0:24:58, 0:25:13]: And the last thing step at the yield curve was flat throughout 2019, 2020. Starting in January, the yield curve started to rise. And so the long term is now a little bit higher than the short term. And you can see that's the difference between four years and 15 years. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: Any other questions from the commission? [0:25:20, 0:25:23]: Before Ms. Jones, any questions or concerns that you have? [0:25:26, 0:25:28]: Ms. George, Mr. Collins, anything at all? [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: Okay. [0:25:32, 0:25:34]: Mr. Walls, Doug, anything else you need to add? [0:25:36, 0:25:37]: No [0:25:37, 0:25:38]: Nope no no mayor. [0:25:39, 0:25:41]: I think Mr. Robert had one more question. [0:25:42, 0:25:43]: Yeah, Cope. Go ahead, sir. [0:25:43, 0:25:47]: Yeah, reading through the trails, it said basically that um [0:25:48, 0:26:01]: entered in any agreement to make sure they're completed, but that we still would be able to make the pick the best person or get bids out on those. We're just not locked in the uh open checkbook on that, right? [0:26:02, 0:26:05]: Mike seems to be shaking his head, yes. Okay. [0:26:06, 0:26:06]: Okay. [0:26:07, 0:26:08]: I'm good then. [0:26:09, 0:26:09]: All right. [0:26:10, 0:26:25]: All right. So if there are no questions, no other questions, concerns, um, then we need a motion on the floor. And and Mike, could you draft that idea for that motion so we can get this accurate for everybody a clear complete understanding that Miss Rainey has it written down properly? [0:26:26, 0:26:36]: So Mayor, um a motion would be in order to adopt the bond resolution authorizing the issuance of the twenty twenty-one A, twenty twenty-one B, twenty-one. [0:26:37, 0:26:41]: Twenty twenty one C bond issues as presented to the PFA board this morning. [0:26:42, 0:26:43]: Okay. [0:26:44, 0:26:51]: So um I'll tell you what, since you made it, I'll say so moved. Okay. And then I need a second. [0:26:53, 0:27:03]: Uh okay. Ms. Mr. Copeck's hand was up quicker than yours, Mr. Collins. That's all there. Mr. Copec second that. Okay. Any further discussion at all on this on this at all? [0:27:04, 0:27:07]: No further discussion. All in favor of the of the uh motion, please indicate. [0:27:08, 0:27:12]: Okay, everybody's good? She now she says outstanding. All right. [0:27:12, 0:27:13]: Good deal. [0:27:13, 0:27:22]: Um that should make everybody pleased and happy as we move continue to move forward. Um, are there any other issues or concerns or things we need to do this morning? [0:27:22, 0:27:32]: Yes, Mr. Mr. Mayor, um I was remiss in uh offering uh my uh gratitude to the board for your continued uh confidence and I look forward to finishing this project. [0:27:33, 0:27:36]: Good deal. They hear you and they they um they acknowledge that, sir. Good deal. [0:27:37, 0:27:50]: Any other any other closing comments for anybody else before we adjourn the meeting? Because no need to go in the executive session. Uh Doug or Ed, anything else that we need to go before we we close out? No, sir. Very quick meeting. Uh okay. [0:27:50, 0:27:59]: Well, thank you, folks. I appreciate it. Uh like to adjourn the meetings. No other questions, we'll adjourn the meeting. It's roughly what uh uh I have nine twenty six. So outstanding. [0:27:59, 0:28:04]: God bless y'all. We're gonna continue forward. All right, thank you. I mean bye brother. Goodbye. [0:28:04, 0:28:05]: Thank you.

--- title: February 23 2021 Work Session Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-02-23 source: 2021-02-23_February_23_2021_Work_Session_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:28, 0:00:30]: Mr. Washington. [0:00:31, 0:00:34]: Doing well, so how are you? Good, good, good, good. [0:00:34, 0:00:36]: Okay, no. [0:00:36, 0:00:38]: We gotta get [0:00:41, 0:00:42]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:00:42, 0:00:44]: I'm gonna go back to it. [0:00:45, 0:00:46]: Uh let me let me [0:00:47, 0:00:49]: See if I [0:01:32, 0:01:32]: [132.3, 134.4]: Uh Mr. Blount's online. [0:02:15, 0:02:15]: Good evening. [0:02:16, 0:02:17]: Yes. [0:02:37, 0:02:42]: All right, just so everybody knows we are at this point streaming live on Facebook. [0:02:43, 0:02:47]: And before we formally before we formally start the meeting, we are live now. [0:02:47, 0:02:48]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [0:03:04, 0:03:07]: Remember Timma's online and Mr. Aaron's present. [0:03:10, 0:03:15]: Now I am I to assume that uh Mr. Williams needs to be present for this meeting to start? [0:03:17, 0:03:18]: Is that my assumption? [0:03:19, 0:03:24]: Uh I don't think so, Mayor. Um we've had that discussion and um [0:03:26, 0:03:30]: Mr. Washington and Mr. Berry will will carry forward with the uh [0:03:31, 0:03:32]: uh council's approval. [0:03:35, 0:03:35]: All right. [0:03:36, 0:03:53]: Well, if that's a note, then uh I have six o'clock and we actually have a quorum. Uh so I'd like to call this uh council meeting, council work session actually, uh February twenty-third uh to order. And on that note, uh invocation. Mr. Blount, please. [0:03:54, 0:03:54]: Yes. [0:03:56, 0:04:00]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we come to you thanking you first of all for your grace and we thank you for your mercy. [0:04:01, 0:04:05]: We ask that you would meet us right here, right now, Heavenly Father, that you would be [0:04:05, 0:04:09]: The footstep that would guide our choices today. Let us do those things that are [0:04:09, 0:04:12]: Pleasing in your sight that are beneficial to our city. [0:04:12, 0:04:16]: Let us heavenly father continue to work for the citizens, heavenly father have elected us. [0:04:17, 0:04:20]: To be a part of this great city called Stockbridge. [0:04:20, 0:04:25]: We thank you, Heavenly Father, for each and every one, Lord. And we will ask you right now in the name of Jesus, Heavenly Father, [0:04:26, 0:04:27]: In the midst of all the [0:04:27, 0:04:33]: Things that we have discussed and will discuss and then we'll talk about God, that you will look upon this world, Heavenly Father, and heal it. [0:04:33, 0:04:36]: That you will heal the sickness, that you will heal the pain. [0:04:36, 0:04:40]: Continue to be with us and continue, continue to keep us, Lord. And it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:04:41, 0:04:44]: Amen. Uh please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:04:45, 0:04:46]: Mm-hmm. [0:04:47, 0:05:01]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, one God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:05:03, 0:05:05]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:05:11, 0:05:13]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:05:13, 0:05:15]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:05:15, 0:05:16]: Present. [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:05:18, 0:05:19]: I think [0:05:20, 0:05:21]: Councilman Blount. [0:05:22, 0:05:22]: Present. [0:05:23, 0:05:24]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:05:26, 0:05:26]: Present. [0:05:27, 0:05:28]: Councilman Thomas. [0:05:29, 0:05:29]: President. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:05:32, 0:05:34]: Thank you, appreciate that, Madam Clerk. [0:05:34, 0:05:37]: Council, I need a motion to to adopt the agenda. [0:05:37, 0:05:39]: Uh Councilman Blount, please. [0:05:40, 0:05:42]: Uh Mayor, I'd like to amend agenda. [0:05:43, 0:05:48]: Uh to include uh Zeker's session at the end of the final [0:05:49, 0:05:50]: Um [0:05:51, 0:06:02]: uh at the end of the uh final piece on the agenda to include litigation and personnel and litigation matters uh to include those matters pertaining to uh barbecue masters. [0:06:02, 0:06:03]: Okay, is there a second? [0:06:04, 0:06:05]: I second. [0:06:05, 0:06:13]: Okay. Obviously this is something very important we need to discuss and we have some new attorneys with us at this point as well. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:06:16, 0:06:17]: All posed. [0:06:19, 0:06:28]: Okay. We'll go into second session to talk about these particular issues and that would be uh after our discussion. So it'll be point number six. Okay. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: On that note [0:06:33, 0:06:38]: Yeah, come before my c comments, uh my comments at the end there. On that note. [0:06:39, 0:06:49]: We have to review the minutes for the following meetings. That would be the uh January eleventh council meeting, the uh January 15th special call meeting. [0:06:49, 0:06:59]: And then the January 26th council work session. Please review those minutes and the next time we meet officially as a council meeting, we'll go ahead and improve those. [0:06:59, 0:07:00]: All right. [0:07:00, 0:07:03]: Uh Madam Clerk, any public comments at all? [0:07:04, 0:07:14]: There were no public comments submitted. Okay. Uh new business. Council consideration to approve FY2022 LMEG list. [0:07:14, 0:07:16]: Mr. Aaron, please. [0:07:16, 0:07:17]: Mayor Ford, if I may. [0:07:17, 0:07:18]: Yes, sir. [0:07:18, 0:07:24]: I think it might be appropriate for the council uh uh to um officially [0:07:25, 0:07:26]: Um approved. [0:07:27, 0:07:32]: Of the firm of Bell in Washington to provide uh legal services for the city. [0:07:32, 0:07:38]: As okay before we begin. Oh sorry for missing missing that. I'm just moving right along. You're absolutely right. I'm gonna blame it on the gray hair. [0:07:39, 0:07:40]: I'm getting too old to remember these things, right? [0:07:41, 0:07:42]: Anyway, inside joke, right? [0:07:43, 0:07:59]: All right, council. I'm sorry about that. We need a motion to adopt uh bell in Washington and uh as our legal counsel. Is there a motion for that? So move. I second Alexander. Ms. Gantt second that. Uh all in favor, please indicate. [0:08:01, 0:08:15]: Nancy says okay. Um thank you, Mr. Knight. On that note, gentlemen, uh just take a moment to before we get into the agenda. Mr. Aaron, stand by. Mr. Washington, how about any any c initial opening comments for us or the listening audience at this time, sir? [0:08:18, 0:08:20]: You're you muted, sir. You you muted. [0:08:21, 0:08:39]: Thank you all for having us. My name is Quentin Washington and I look forward to meeting with each one of you all to advance the agenda for the city of Stockbridge. I'm a former judge in Fulton County where I sat in Majesty Court for the last three years and I have a private firm, Bell in Washington, which is, I guess, over here. [0:08:40, 0:08:43]: And we're coming up on fifteen years as being a minority owned firm. [0:08:44, 0:08:48]: And Jeremy Berry is one of my classmates who's a former city attorney for the city of Atlanta. [0:08:48, 0:08:51]: was agreed to help out on this project. [0:08:51, 0:09:02]: And we look forward to being able to work with you all. And anytime you need anything, I'll be scheduling meetings with each one of you all to just talk, say hello, give you a bit of my background, but at four [0:09:02, 0:09:07]: Uh brevity's sake, I am a native Georgian from the city of Wanna Robbins, Georgia, south of here. [0:09:08, 0:09:28]: I am an undergraduate of Florida AM University. I did my master's at the Kennedy School of Government and Public Policy. And I went to law school at Emory University. And I have spent all of my legal career here. And I've advised cities from the Georgia Municipal Association as a member of the African-American or the Black Mayors Association. [0:09:28, 0:09:38]: and the Georgia County elected the Georgia County black officials. And I look forward to using my experience to help work for the city of Stockbridge. So thank you all so much. [0:09:38, 0:09:42]: Thank you, sir. Jeremy, how about you, sir? Any opening comments? Thank you, sir. [0:09:42, 0:09:50]: Thank you, Mayor and members of council. Uh I'm a delighted and honored to be here tonight and to be part of the team with Bell in Washington. So thank you very much. [0:09:51, 0:10:00]: Uh just a brief background. I went like Quentin to Emory University School of Law, graduated in 2003, so been practicing about 17 and a half years. [0:10:00, 0:10:03]: I've been you know, I was with McKenna long an Aldridge. [0:10:03, 0:10:07]: Uh which became Denton's the largest law firm in the world. [0:10:07, 0:10:13]: City of Atlanta, uh then with a smaller firm, Hilliard Starkey, and now with another firm, Chilovis Grubman. [0:10:13, 0:10:20]: Dalby and Warner. My my practice is extensive, a lot of experience in government and government contracts, procurement. [0:10:20, 0:10:21]: uh local government issues. [0:10:22, 0:10:29]: And I I look forward to working with each of you and and when we can safely uh look forward to meeting each one of you in in person. [0:10:29, 0:10:36]: And I again appreciate the opportunity to work with y'all and uh look forward to a a long and productive relationship. [0:10:36, 0:10:53]: Thank you, gentlemen, both. And uh congratulations and uh we'll make it long and prosperous for us all as you uh have our legal counsel. Okay. Um now back to you, Mr. Aaron. Uh approval of the FY twenty two of FY twenty twenty two L Meg, please list. [0:10:54, 0:11:02]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. We come before you tonight asking for mayor and council's approval of the FY twenty twenty twenty twenty-two LMIG list. [0:11:02, 0:11:08]: This is the first list from the revised role evaluation that we had done in 2018. [0:11:08, 0:11:09]: And it also [0:11:10, 0:11:27]: uh includes two major roads, Davison Parkway and Old Atlanta Road. We'll also be the first time that we ref resurface streets in carriage lakes. You know, we annexed that I think in 2017. So we'll get two roads in carriage lakes. We'll have two roads in [0:11:27, 0:11:33]: Willow Springs, uh Willow Springs Lane and Sage Court, which are both definitely in need of resurfacing. [0:11:34, 0:11:37]: We'll also have two roles in Monarch Village and we'll also [0:11:38, 0:11:43]: include the legends and I think this is every street in the legends will be [0:11:43, 0:11:46]: resurfaced under the twenty twenty two L me. [0:11:47, 0:11:48]: Okay, fantastic. [0:11:49, 0:11:53]: Council, any questions for Mr. Aaron and or uh Mr. Knighton? I'm sorry, sir. [0:11:54, 0:12:12]: No, I I I was just going to add is as you all know, this is done through an independent grading system, if you will, to determine which roads uh would be on the resurfacing list. So it's not something that's arbitrary, it's something that goes through an analysis to determine uh which roads would be resurfaced. [0:12:12, 0:12:15]: All right, fantastic. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:12:17, 0:12:28]: Mr. Aaron, you said that the uh list been revised. Is when was the last time the revisions happened and do we have are we able to get a copy of the revisions that was put on the uh the uh list? [0:12:29, 0:12:35]: Mayor and council should have a copy, but I resend that list. This was done in two thousand and I think eighteen. [0:12:36, 0:12:41]: When uh it was requested we do a streets and sidewalk assessment and both of those were done. [0:12:42, 0:12:50]: So there's no new revision since 2018 approval, what you're saying? No, sir. Okay. No, I'm fine, and I got I have that. Thanks. [0:12:52, 0:12:53]: Any other questions from Mr. Aaron? [0:12:53, 0:12:57]: But if anyone needs a copy, I'll send it to the city manager. [0:12:58, 0:12:58]: The same. [0:13:00, 0:13:06]: Thank you. Another question from Mr. Aaron. Then I uh council need a motion to accept this particular list, project list. [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: Tamo. [0:13:07, 0:13:08]: Is there a second [0:13:09, 0:13:10]: Okay. [0:13:10, 0:13:11]: Okay. [0:13:12, 0:13:24]: Ms. Gantt had her hand up. She wasn't speaking and mayor potem. So Blount again. Okay. All right. Good deal. All in favor the I imagine there's no more discussion. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:13:25, 0:13:34]: Okay, it's unanimous decision. Outstanding. Okay. Uh discussion purposes here. Propose aquatic center. Mr. Knighton, please. Why don't you start this off? [0:13:36, 0:13:44]: Sure. Uh Mayor and Council, as you know, um there's been some recent discussion about the location of aquatic center, which was approved. [0:13:44, 0:13:53]: Via SPLOST 5. Again, uh citizens' voters approved a SPLOSS list, which included an aquatic center, approximately$25 million. [0:13:53, 0:13:56]: Uh the uh discussion has centered upon [0:13:57, 0:14:01]: right now with the county, uh a potential location for the aquatic center. [0:14:02, 0:14:05]: I provided you with a list of an assessment from a consultant. [0:14:06, 0:14:09]: That was hired to assess various locations. [0:14:09, 0:14:12]: The preferred location, uh, as you can see from the consultant. [0:14:13, 0:14:16]: was for the Jodico Bridges at Jodico site. [0:14:17, 0:14:19]: Um the uh [0:14:19, 0:14:20]: Developer of the site. [0:14:21, 0:14:24]: uh essentially has consented to donating [0:14:24, 0:14:27]: the land for uh the aquatic center. [0:14:28, 0:14:30]: uh to be developed and constructed. [0:14:30, 0:14:31]: on said site. [0:14:32, 0:14:39]: Uh a few weeks ago, uh the uh mayor provided a letter with support, of course, from the rest of the members of the council. [0:14:40, 0:14:43]: Uh to uh Chair Harrell to Henry County. [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: Uh, providing support. [0:14:45, 0:14:50]: for the aquatic center to be located at the Bridges of Jodeco site. [0:14:50, 0:14:53]: Since that time there have been some discussions uh by the county. [0:14:54, 0:14:55]: And at a previous meeting it was [0:14:56, 0:14:59]: plan to be discussed however that county meeting was [0:14:59, 0:15:03]: cancelled. It is my understanding that uh the next meeting on March the ninth [0:15:04, 0:15:07]: uh for the county commission will entail a discussion. [0:15:08, 0:15:09]: Аботві локація. [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: uh the decision about the location [0:15:13, 0:15:15]: of the proposed aquatic center. [0:15:16, 0:15:22]: Again, the city's position uh via conversation and via letter from Mayor Ford. [0:15:22, 0:15:24]: Is that the location should be? [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: At the bridges of Jodeco site. [0:15:26, 0:15:28]: Located in the city limits. [0:15:28, 0:15:32]: Of Stockbridge and maintained in the city limits of Stockbridge. [0:15:33, 0:15:36]: Um at this point in time there is not a [0:15:36, 0:15:40]: Schematic or concept that I'm aware of of the aquatic center. [0:15:40, 0:15:43]: Um once a location is determined. [0:15:44, 0:15:48]: then a more definitive uh concept plan andor [0:15:48, 0:15:51]: depiction of what the co the aquatic center would entail. [0:15:52, 0:15:56]: uh would be determined again based on uh size of property, location, etcetera. [0:15:57, 0:15:58]: Um [0:15:58, 0:16:02]: Obviously uh the aquatic center is located in the city limits of Stockbridge. [0:16:02, 0:16:05]: And stock which would by virtue of that [0:16:05, 0:16:07]: Have certain responsibilities. [0:16:07, 0:16:10]: With respect to uh the aquatic center. [0:16:10, 0:16:16]: Of course, discussions um as you know, uh may center around what that looks like uh for a [0:16:17, 0:16:20]: Aquatic center to be located in the city of Stockbridge. [0:16:20, 0:16:23]: Then ultimately constructed by Henry County. [0:16:23, 0:16:26]: I have indicated to the county manager. [0:16:26, 0:16:33]: Um in that uh the city by virtue of Mayor Ford's letter supportive again of the location. [0:16:33, 0:16:37]: And certainly would be willing to uh have open discussions and dialogue. [0:16:37, 0:16:41]: uh with respect to uh the location of the aquatic center. [0:16:42, 0:16:43]: And working with the county to ultimately [0:16:44, 0:16:46]: Place the aquatic center. [0:16:46, 0:16:48]: On the Joteco site. [0:16:49, 0:16:50]: Um [0:16:51, 0:16:56]: That's all I would mention at this point in time, Mayor Ford. I'm sure that uh council members may want to discuss this matter. [0:16:57, 0:17:00]: Um and uh have some form of dialogue. [0:17:00, 0:17:02]: With respect to [0:17:02, 0:17:05]: uh the status of the aquatic proposed aquatic center. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: Reverable Tim Alezana, go ahead, please, sir. [0:17:09, 0:17:12]: Uh thank you so much, Mr. Knighton, for your presentation and [0:17:13, 0:17:33]: Uh wholeheartedly I support the the Jodeco location. Uh I did see a schematic uh of what the aquatic center would look like uh presented at a previous uh meeting. I think it may have been uh for another location, but in terms of what it was supposed to look like, there is a schematic that actually exists. [0:17:33, 0:17:34]: For what it looks like. [0:17:35, 0:17:39]: Uh moreover than that, what I want to speak to is [0:17:39, 0:17:40]: Uh [0:17:40, 0:17:41]: What I'm hearing from the public. [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: Again and again. [0:17:44, 0:17:46]: Is that they want to see us work together. [0:17:47, 0:17:53]: Uh too often in the past the county and the city cities have uh had issues or they've been at odds. [0:17:53, 0:17:56]: But the public just wants us to roll up our sleeves. [0:17:56, 0:18:00]: and work together collaboratively for the benefit [0:18:01, 0:18:01]: Of everyone. [0:18:02, 0:18:03]: To me. [0:18:03, 0:18:07]: The Johtaco Aquatic Center represents just that. [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: A grand opportunity. [0:18:09, 0:18:16]: where all of us, county and city, can once and for all show the public that we're putting them first. [0:18:16, 0:18:19]: Not the city first, not the county first. [0:18:19, 0:18:20]: Them first. [0:18:20, 0:18:23]: The recommendation was very strong from the consultant. [0:18:24, 0:18:26]: Uh on the uh on the information that I read. [0:18:27, 0:18:34]: The Jodico was a shovel ready project, ready to go right now. The infrastructure was already in, the grounds have been cleared. [0:18:35, 0:18:36]: It was the clear cut favorite. [0:18:37, 0:18:39]: In my conversations with [0:18:39, 0:18:40]: Uh, commissioners. [0:18:40, 0:18:43]: I've been told that they support this particular site. [0:18:43, 0:18:45]: Uh wholeheartedly. [0:18:45, 0:18:47]: And uh that they want to work with the city. [0:18:47, 0:18:51]: Now the proof is in the pudding where we all sit down. [0:18:51, 0:18:52]: Work together. [0:18:52, 0:18:58]: I understand for them this is a very important project. It's an important project for all. [0:18:58, 0:19:04]: Not only am I a city council member in the city of Stockbridge, I'm a Henry County resident as well. [0:19:04, 0:19:06]: I cast the ballot for commissioner. [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: I cast a ballot for city. [0:19:08, 0:19:13]: And I and I want everybody to sit down and to be able to work together. [0:19:13, 0:19:14]: uh in harmony. [0:19:14, 0:19:17]: Because this one right here is a no brainer. [0:19:17, 0:19:23]: where all of us should be able to work together, provide this location that is centrally located. [0:19:23, 0:19:30]: along I seventy five, spurring economic development where we want to drive it along I seventy five. [0:19:31, 0:19:31]: I would hope. [0:19:32, 0:19:36]: Again, that all of us could sit down at the table and we understand that [0:19:36, 0:19:39]: This is a a twenty milyen dollar plus project. [0:19:40, 0:19:41]: And uh mi personally. [0:19:42, 0:19:50]: I don't have any problem with uh Henry County uh controlling the project because they're the major investor, as we would do. [0:19:50, 0:19:55]: with any entity coming into the city to be able to control their project. [0:19:56, 0:19:57]: They bring in a city. [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: A project inside our city limits. [0:20:00, 0:20:02]: So as the property owner [0:20:02, 0:20:05]: Which the land would be donated to them by the developer, I understand. [0:20:06, 0:20:08]: They would have control over the project. [0:20:08, 0:20:11]: And it would be it would behoove us to work with them. [0:20:11, 0:20:14]: uh in every instance to allow them to build [0:20:14, 0:20:21]: the best facility possible. So I certainly wholeheartedly support that and whatever we need to do, in my opinion. [0:20:22, 0:20:27]: We should do that to work together to bring this aquatic center to the city of Stockbridge. Thank you. [0:20:28, 0:20:40]: In the thank you, sir, in the actual letter that uh you all um allowed me to write and sign off and get your approval, it talked about the fact that uh that we had a a joint agreement uh at the sense that this would be a great site. [0:20:41, 0:20:44]: And also the fact that uh we look forward to developing [0:20:44, 0:20:46]: in a governmental type of agreement. [0:20:47, 0:20:48]: That we will review. [0:20:49, 0:20:54]: And uh that uh eventually myself along with Chair Hurrel will sign off on, but obviously [0:20:54, 0:21:02]: I personally won't sign off on until you all look at it and you approve that we got a consensus to approve all the outlines or details of that agreement. So I look forward to that. [0:21:02, 0:21:15]: that agreement and sharing that obviously with the rest of the council and staff and and continuing uh uh the coordination uh with Chair Harell and all the commissioners on this particular particular project uh for uh the citizens of Henry County. [0:21:15, 0:21:21]: Uh so I I would say we're all in, but uh any other comments uh that anybody may want to have on this particular issue? [0:21:22, 0:21:25]: Discussion. Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, sir. [0:21:25, 0:21:29]: I just want to echo the sentiment of uh Mayor Pro Tem and yourself. [0:21:30, 0:21:32]: Uh I am фейvr ін фейвер. [0:21:32, 0:21:44]: Um, as Mr. Knighton alluded to, the uh IGA, I just think we just need to sit down and and and you know, hash out, you know, all of the details, but uh I am totally in favor of this location. [0:21:45, 0:21:47]: Thank you, sir. Anybody else? [0:21:49, 0:21:50]: Okay. [0:21:50, 0:21:52]: Yeah, yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:21:53, 0:22:00]: Well, I was I was wanting to wait to hear from uh some of the other council members and see whether or not they had anything to say, but it looks like we have um [0:22:01, 0:22:03]: uh unanimous consent on this. [0:22:03, 0:22:04]: Синь ассет. [0:22:05, 0:22:07]: What I'd like for us to do is to consider [0:22:07, 0:22:22]: just uh indicating to the council uh in a resolution that we certainly would like to support uh the Jodico location uh via an IGA with an official vote of the council. [0:22:22, 0:22:27]: The letter uh came through you, Mary. It was a great job, it was a great s a great initial step. [0:22:27, 0:22:40]: But for us to take the next step and actually vote uh on a resolution where the council can clearly state and go on the record that we s we uh are basically codifying everything that you put. [0:22:40, 0:22:42]: Uh in your letter with the city council vote. [0:22:43, 0:22:50]: I s suggest that we do that. So I'd like to make a motion for us to have uh a city resolution. [0:22:50, 0:22:52]: That states that we [0:22:52, 0:22:54]: The city of Startbridge fully support. [0:22:55, 0:22:57]: The bridges are Jodico location. [0:22:57, 0:22:59]: For the Henry County Aquatic Center. [0:22:59, 0:23:01]: And we would like to accomplish that through that. [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: to an intergovernmental agreement that will be put forth. [0:23:05, 0:23:07]: uh by Henry County and negotiated. [0:23:07, 0:23:13]: uh uh with the city. I just want to make that official through a vote. So I certainly like to make a motion for that. [0:23:14, 0:23:21]: I second you'll give you second. Well, Miss Barber, I think, had her hand up to second that. That's what I have here. Is that right, Miss Barber? Is that what you do? [0:23:22, 0:23:26]: Okay. You unmuted. Were you you have something you needed to add, Miss Barber? Something else you want to say? [0:23:26, 0:23:28]: No? You good? [0:23:28, 0:23:32]: Okay, all right, good deal. Ms. Gan. [0:23:33, 0:23:52]: Anything else? No, I think it's excellent. I'm excited. Um, I think that the community is waiting on this. There's been a lot of talk on the product center. I think it's an excellent location. I'd like to thank um Jeff Grant, along with anyone else who and and um our Madam Chair. [0:23:52, 0:23:54]: Uh Carlotta Harel? [0:23:55, 0:24:01]: for meeting and collaborating and coming to Mayor and Council with this great idea. And so [0:24:01, 0:24:08]: um and all of the rest of the county commissioners, I would like to thank them and hope in advance for their support as well. So [0:24:08, 0:24:09]: That's it. [0:24:09, 0:24:13]: Okay, good deal. If there's no the cop I'm sorry, Ms. Bla uh Mr Blount, go ahead, please. [0:24:15, 0:24:21]: Yeah, I I wanted uh to um just piggyback on those sentiments uh myself and um [0:24:21, 0:24:25]: And thank you, Ms. Collada Morrell, uh Council uh Chairman. [0:24:25, 0:24:27]: Colonerail. Uh she's um [0:24:27, 0:24:35]: She's definitely been an asset to this county uh since she's taken office. And I've seen her um just reach across. [0:24:36, 0:24:46]: reach across every line that I've seen since she's been in office and uh I'm I'm I'm proud to see her making a difference in the uh in in Henry County. And I just wanna say uh [0:24:46, 0:24:49]: Uh I I thank her for what she's doing with the county. [0:24:50, 0:24:50]: Okay. [0:24:51, 0:24:55]: If there's no other comments, I'll call for the vote. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:24:56, 0:25:16]: Okay, so nanos decision. Thank you very much. Okay, now we're going to go into executive session. So, Ms. Holliday, I would imagine you need to send all of us, the uh the attorneys and uh the council members um in this aspect uh connectivity to uh the for the executive session to uh talk over some legal matters. [0:25:16, 0:25:17]: Okay. [0:25:18, 0:25:20]: And uh in this aspect. [0:25:22, 0:25:25]: You're able to do that? Yes, I just need the vote to enter. [0:25:27, 0:25:33]: Excuse me. Yes, yeah, hold on a second. You need a vote to enter. I don't I'm sorry, I'm lo I might I must be lost. [0:25:33, 0:25:36]: Oh, the vote was un on this last vote was unanimous. [0:25:37, 0:25:43]: I I'm I move I I move the motion that we go to the second session. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Is there a second? [0:25:45, 0:25:48]: I said Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:25:50, 0:25:57]: Thank you. Appreciate it. Um, thank you, Vanessa. I'm sorry. Like I said, it's a gray hair acting up for today, I suppose. Okay. [0:25:57, 0:26:01]: So we'll we'll we'll go into second session. Uh [0:26:02, 0:26:03]: Excuse me. [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: All right. [0:26:06, 0:26:07]: No, it'll just be about three minutes. [0:26:07, 0:26:27]: Okay. Okay. I appreciate that. It'll take about three minutes. Thank you. Okay. All right, folks. I'll see you. And Vanessa Vanessa, we'll we'll we'll go out of this one and then come back into the new one. Is that correct? Just for all right, just for the uh Mr. Washington and Mr. Berry. So yeah, so you you've got to understand Mr. Washington, Mr. Barrett, the council. And uh in this case I I will have to [0:26:27, 0:26:30]: We'll be missing one council member in this aspect. [0:26:30, 0:26:33]: Okay. But we'll be sent another link for Ms. Hollis. Okay. [0:26:34, 0:26:37]: I'll I'll be sending a link. Yes. Okay. [0:26:37, 0:26:39]: Okay. I'll see you on a few minutes. [0:26:40, 0:26:41]: Okay. [0:26:41, 0:26:41]: Yeah. [0:27:17, 0:27:18]: Yeah. [0:27:48, 0:27:50]: Remating on Mayor Ford. [0:27:52, 0:27:53]: Yeah, and uh [0:27:55, 0:27:58]: Councilman Alexander would also need to be brought back, correct? [0:27:58, 0:28:01]: I sent a message. [0:28:01, 0:28:02]: Okay. Okay. [0:28:02, 0:28:04]: Yeah, he he needs to come back. [0:28:32, 0:28:32]: No. [0:28:33, 0:28:36]: So everybody's here except for him at this point. [0:28:38, 0:28:43]: I've sent him a message. I don't I've sent him a message. I don't uh [0:28:52, 0:28:52]: Yeah. [0:28:54, 0:28:56]: How long ago did you do that, uh, Miss Holliday? [0:28:58, 0:29:02]: I I've said it twice. I've seen it since we've been back since we've been there. Since we've been there. [0:29:04, 0:29:08]: Are we back? Are we back live? Yeah, we are back live soon. Yes, we are with Forty. [0:29:10, 0:29:12]: Okay. Um [0:29:14, 0:29:21]: All right. Here's what we're going to do. We have a quorum. Um, we're gonna go forward. I need a motion to end this exit session, please. [0:29:22, 0:29:24]: I'm moved. No second. [0:29:25, 0:29:29]: And Councilman Barber seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [0:29:31, 0:29:37]: All right, thank you very much. Uh now I need a motion to reconvene our uh council work session. [0:29:38, 0:29:39]: So moved. [0:29:39, 0:29:45]: Okay, is there a second? Second. Okay. Councilman Thomas. Okay, appreciate it. [0:29:46, 0:29:47]: All favor, please indicate. [0:29:48, 0:30:02]: All right. Thank you very much. All right, now there are a couple of things that came out of the actual um our executive session. So I need uh those items bring forward. And first thing, uh uh Councilman Belunt, I believe you have a motion. [0:30:03, 0:30:05]: Yeah, so maybe maybe [0:30:06, 0:30:26]: um i don't i'd like to make a motion to approve um acquiring um mr williams services for three months contractual for seven thousand dollars pertaining to uh the city's uh litigation uh matters with uh by the [0:30:26, 0:30:26]: Mm. [0:30:27, 0:30:27]: There's a second. [0:30:28, 0:30:29]: A second. [0:30:29, 0:30:32]: Okay. All flavored emotion, please indicate. [0:30:34, 0:30:35]: Apples. [0:30:37, 0:30:43]: Okay. It it passes uh three zero Miss Barber, you you abstain abstaining? [0:30:45, 0:30:46]: I'm sorry, I can't hear you. [0:30:47, 0:30:48]: Okay. [0:30:49, 0:30:50]: Alex Dane. [0:30:50, 0:31:03]: Okay, so it's please zero one. Okay. Um it passes. All right, Miss Kant. I actually have Mr. Alexander raise his hand on that vote and I just need to ask the attorney do I accept that vote or not? [0:31:04, 0:31:09]: Three's uh well the attorneys can answer. I I know it passed, but I just need to ask for the record. [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: I would think that it should not be counted [0:31:15, 0:31:16]: Given the interest in the litigation. [0:31:17, 0:31:17]: Okay. [0:31:18, 0:31:25]: Thank you. I just want to clarify. Thank you. Okay. Um, Miss Gantt, do you have a another motion for us? [0:31:26, 0:31:30]: Yes. Yes, I I move that we [0:31:30, 0:31:31]: Um [0:31:32, 0:31:39]: approve and welcome um Mrs. Breca Johnson as our community development director. [0:31:40, 0:31:45]: Okay, Mr. Thomas seconds that all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:31:47, 0:31:55]: Okay, she now decision. Fantastic. Congratulations to her. Look forward to meeting her in person and talking with her. And now you're welcome, sir. [0:31:55, 0:32:15]: And re in reference to my my comments. Uh recently, as you well know, ladies and gentlemen, that the uh state of Texas has been hit with uh a tragic inc incident where they lost a lot of power and uh the folks in Texas uh uh have a rough, rough time. It just so happens that here in the city, excuse me, in the county, in the h in Henry County. [0:32:15, 0:32:23]: The American Legion post five uh five sixteen along with the Henry Gow County government and participating cities to include Stockbridge. [0:32:24, 0:32:35]: have um gathered up a pallet of water to send down to Te uh Texas to support those individuals down there. And that uh that truckload of water is headed out uh tomorrow morning. [0:32:35, 0:32:55]: Uh so hopefully individuals I know individuals from the county itself from different parts of cities and other cities, include Stockbridge, has um uh went on and d delivered or uh or donated water to help those citizens of of Texas and and hopefully if we ever come in a situation here in Henry County and Georgia, the Texas do the same for us if we have any type of [0:32:55, 0:32:59]: natural disaster or some incident that'll cause havoc for us as well. [0:32:59, 0:33:19]: Um on this note I probably need Ms. uh Holiday to help me out on this. It's your constitutional right to vote. So right now, folks, the East PLOS number six is up for a vote. We can't advocate yes or no here in this venue, uh, but it's your constitutional right to vote. And of course that it's a referendum that that's going on right now. Early voting is going [0:33:19, 0:33:24]: one of Merrill Manor's uh conference center on the sixteenth of March is actual um [0:33:24, 0:33:44]: election date and I believe that'd be held only held at um in Madonna, I believe that is. Is that correct, uh Miss Holliday? That's correct. Okay. So that deals with uh roughly three hundred twenty-five million dollars of of uh cash uh for the school system itself Henry's Henry County school system capital school projects technology technology [0:33:44, 0:33:56]: technology improvements and transportation and fine arts uh improvements. So uh once again it's your constitution and right to uh voice your opinion on that. As you well know, we're still in a pandemic. [0:33:57, 0:34:08]: And so when y'all in the public domain, wear your mask, wash your hands when you can, use hand side and tanner when you can't wash your hands, stay six feet of distance away, don't go to large gatherings. [0:34:08, 0:34:19]: The big thing now these days is a vaccination. Okay. And so uh and I know a lot of you having problems uh getting getting a vaccination at this point, but you gotta keep trying and calling that number. [0:34:19, 0:34:27]: Uh so here in Henry County, uh they're now rotating the vaccination site to several different locations in Henry County for the month of March. [0:34:27, 0:34:47]: Just so happens a week ago last Tuesday, and we were at Merrill Manor's Conference Center, and well over 600 plus citizens, uh senior citizens typically received the first doses of the vaccination, Moderna, Moderna vaccination. Just earlier today, uh roughly 600 plus more citizens were given a vaccination the first. [0:34:47, 0:34:51]: first doses of Moderna, Moderna at um JP Mosley. [0:34:51, 0:34:59]: Recreational Center. Um, and the following week, uh next Tuesday, it'll be a Locust Grove Senior Center. [0:34:59, 0:35:10]: It's two eighty Moss uh Berman Road. Screw me Mouse uh Moss Brown Drive, I'm sorry, two eighty Mouse uh Moss Brown Drive in Locus Grove next Tuesday. [0:35:10, 0:35:12]: It starts at eight thirty in the morning. [0:35:12, 0:35:14]: So starting tomorrow morning. [0:35:14, 0:35:20]: Tomorrow morning at eight thirty, you can start calling to make your reservations and appointments for that particular [0:35:20, 0:35:23]: uh location to get your vaccination next next Tuesday. [0:35:24, 0:35:25]: So Wednesday to Friday. [0:35:25, 0:35:30]: They'll be septing your uh your actual reservations. Do you have to call this number? [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: Seven six two. [0:35:32, 0:35:36]: eight eight eight eight one eight zero. Once again seven six two [0:35:36, 0:35:38]: eight eight eight eight one eight zero. [0:35:39, 0:35:43]: open those lines are open from uh Wednesday to Friday, eight AM to five PM. [0:35:43, 0:35:47]: And they'll they'll stop accepting those reservations when they're maxed out with their appointments. [0:35:48, 0:35:53]: Now you have to keep trying,'cause obviously you have to you have to keep trying to get through, but it can be done. So be patient with that. [0:35:53, 0:36:13]: Now obviously, uh like I said, next Tuesday at Locust Grove Senior Center, and then the uh following week on the 23rd uh of uh uh of March. Excuse me, so I'm sorry, on the 9th of March, actually for the two weeks, on March 2nd and March 9th, March 2nd and March 9th, both at Locust Grove, both Tuesdays. [0:36:13, 0:36:17]: That starts at 8 30 in the morning until all the vaccinations are done. [0:36:17, 0:36:31]: So the second and ninth at Locust Grove on the 16th, they'll be back at Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Uh now on that uh aspect that those will be for the individuals to get their second dosage, people that got their dosage at Merrill Manor last Tuesday. [0:36:32, 0:36:42]: One month later, they'll come back to Merrill Manager for the second shot. Okay, to Mederma. And as this is the same type of process that goes on the uh the twenty-third at JP Mosley. [0:36:42, 0:36:47]: And so those are those would be the individuals that got their shot today primarily to get the second shot. [0:36:47, 0:36:50]: And then on the March thirtieth to be back at Locus Grove Senior Center. [0:36:50, 0:36:54]: Okay. Now even though we have the vaccinations, they're still [0:36:54, 0:37:01]: some people still need to get uh tested and testing goes on daily at the heritage centers at Heritage Senior Center. [0:37:01, 0:37:04]: In uh on my on uh in Madonna. [0:37:04, 0:37:14]: Okay. Uh so um that happens Monday to Thursday, nine AM to three PM. Nine AM to three PM, Monday to Thursday, Saturday, nine AM to twelve noon. [0:37:15, 0:37:17]: And you need to make a reservation for that as well. [0:37:17, 0:37:21]: Uh it's eight hundred eight four seven four two six two. Once again, eight hundred [0:37:22, 0:37:23]: eight four seven four two six two. [0:37:24, 0:37:27]: Uh so if you need to get tested, please do that. [0:37:27, 0:37:43]: And but more or less we're before and you gotta be patient with the vaccination piece. Now obviously you have uh places like uh CVS and Publix or Walgreens that are also private of uh uh private individuals that also are given out the vaccination. You have to call them directly to do that. [0:37:43, 0:37:45]: All right, so hopefully you [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: You'll be get your vaccination as soon as possible. When you're qualified to do so, you need to eradicate and stomp out this uh this particular virus. So just keep the faith with that as well. And right now we're still in phase one, a expanded, so it deals with healthcare individuals, police officers, firefighters, individuals over 65 years of age. [0:38:05, 0:38:09]: And the h and the care, the first care uh givers that are actually part of the process here. [0:38:10, 0:38:14]: Okay, city offices are closed due to COVID nineteen precautions, of course, until this point. [0:38:14, 0:38:34]: And uh please contact the city's website, uh citystopridge.com, and you get a hold of each department and get additional information and get services here in in the city. Uh upcoming meetings and announcements. Uh there's um going to be a city council meeting course at 6 p.m. by Zoom. [0:38:34, 0:38:54]: Second Monday of each month. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is 9 o'clock a.m. Uh by Zoom, the second Friday of each month. The downtown authority meeting, downtown development authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, the third Tuesday of each month. The youth council advisory meeting is 6:30 p.m. by [0:38:54, 0:38:57]: As a way of Zoom, the third Tuesday of each month. [0:38:58, 0:39:02]: The planning commission meeting is six thirty PM by way of Zoom, the fourth Thursday of each month. [0:39:03, 0:39:11]: And our next city council meeting will be six p.m. by way of Zoom, the last Tuesday of each month. And then we have an upcoming public hearing. [0:39:12, 0:39:25]: February 25th at 630 PM. Um and also on March 8th of 2021 at 6 p.m., it deals with a rezoning case of RZ-2020-02. [0:39:26, 0:39:33]: Upcoming council initiatives. You have uh you have to join Councilman Thomas this Saturday, February twenty-seventh at four PM. [0:39:33, 0:39:49]: for the African American History Celebration virtual war ceremony. Virtual war ceremony. And uh please visit the city's uh Facebook page and the website for the ver a virtual link, which will be uh four PM on this Saturday, a few days from now. [0:39:50, 0:39:55]: Uh joined uh Councilwoman Barber for a community blood drive Saturday, March sixth. [0:39:55, 0:39:58]: From ten a.m. to four PM at Test Strickland Community Center. [0:39:59, 0:40:04]: And for more information, please contact Ms. Zenovia Peterson at four oh four. [0:40:04, 0:40:07]: Five six five five one zero nine [0:40:07, 0:40:09]: And join American. [0:40:10, 0:40:15]: Elton Alexander for the fifth annual Women's History Month celebration taking place virtually. [0:40:15, 0:40:16]: March seventh. [0:40:16, 0:40:24]: twenty twenty one, of course, at three p.m. And for more information about that, contact once again Zenovia Peterson at four oh four. [0:40:24, 0:40:27]: Five six five five one zero nine [0:40:27, 0:40:31]: On that note, uh council, I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [0:40:31, 0:40:31]: Here. [0:40:32, 0:40:32]: Yes, sir. [0:40:33, 0:40:42]: Can we can we ask that we uh keep uh Commissioner Gary Bonham in our prayers as he battled uh COVID nineteen? You you just did it, sir. If you can elaborate any further if you need to do that. [0:40:43, 0:40:48]: Well the family is continue to ask for prayers and uh we just want to continue to pray for him. Uh he's in uh [0:40:49, 0:40:58]: He's in uh really, really bad shape. Uh he's in grave condition right now. But we uh continue to lift his family and keep him in prayer. Uh Gary Bottom, Commissioner, Henry County. [0:40:58, 0:41:04]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. I slipped my mind, but thank you. Good point. Okay. I need a motion to adjourn the meeting, please. [0:41:06, 0:41:07]: Some moved. Is there a second? [0:41:08, 0:41:08]: Okay. [0:41:09, 0:41:10]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:41:12, 0:41:12]: Mm. [0:41:12, 0:41:17]: Absolutely. Good night, everybody. Enjoy yourself. God bless you. Good night. Good night. [0:41:17, 0:41:17]: Thank you.

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I I did get an email from you, so I'm not sure if it's everything. It was the uh facade grant uh sample documents that you sent Thursday. [0:15:10, 0:15:17]: Yeah, it was the facade grant sample documents. It was uh sample letter to [0:15:18, 0:15:19]: Um [0:15:20, 0:15:23]: the um businesses who have been awarded the facade grant. [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: And including some next steps. [0:15:26, 0:15:27]: Things like that. [0:15:29, 0:15:31]: Okay, yeah, I did get that email. [0:15:31, 0:15:33]: Okay. Good, good, good. [0:15:35, 0:15:49]: Great. So yeah. I feel like we've made great progress just in the last couple of weeks with this, more so than in the last couple of years. Oh yeah, yeah. Well well, you know, we we're you know, and and that's what it's about. Um [0:15:49, 0:15:53]: And we have we have the the template. So if everyone once everyone looks at it. [0:15:54, 0:15:58]: And um we can, you know, make changes soon, hopefully. [0:16:10, 0:16:11]: I so make a [0:16:12, 0:16:19]: I'm well, not good morning. Lord have mercy. Good afternoon. How y'all doing? Good. How are you doing? I'm good. [0:16:28, 0:16:33]: So make it before we get started, uh I know I've been trying to connect so I can briefly on the [0:16:33, 0:16:35]: on the uh purchased steel. [0:16:36, 0:16:45]: Um, so let me know. Um I'm generally good most weekday evenings between say five and six, six thirty, something like that. [0:16:45, 0:16:52]: Okay. Um or weekends. I prefer m morning like before like around nine or ten or something like that. [0:16:52, 0:16:58]: So just let me know what works for you in the next week or so and uh I'll be glad to send up some time with you. [0:16:58, 0:16:58]: Okay. [0:17:04, 0:17:06]: Hello, Barber's joining via phone. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: Hi Barber, thanks for joining. [0:17:10, 0:17:11]: Yes, thank you. [0:17:13, 0:17:14]: And we hear you fine. [0:17:14, 0:17:17]: We don't see you, we just see a little telephone icon. [0:17:18, 0:17:21]: Yeah, still don't have internet service, so [0:17:22, 0:17:22]: Right. [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: What we do is. [0:17:26, 0:17:27]: Well, at least you have power. [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: Yeah, what is that? [0:17:33, 0:17:33]: [1054.8, 1058.2]: You do sound a little far away, but that that that's fine, we can make it out. [0:17:44, 0:17:45]: Right. [0:17:54, 0:18:02]: Um, let me ask Alan and or Samiqua, did y'all get a reminder from Zoom today about this meeting? Cause I set it up to automatically go out. [0:18:04, 0:18:07]: I don't think I did. Okay. Uh [0:18:07, 0:18:10]: then um let me um [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: Let me just go ahead and do that. [0:18:14, 0:18:17]: Send reminders. Um send [0:18:19, 0:18:21]: Please show us [0:18:30, 0:18:33]: Equals here. [0:18:36, 0:18:36]: There we go. [0:18:47, 0:18:48]: Yeah, make sure we have a quorum. [0:19:23, 0:19:26]: Good evening. Hi Art. Hello Vanessa. [0:19:26, 0:19:27]: Hey. [0:19:33, 0:19:34]: Um [0:19:35, 0:19:44]: Art and Vanessa, Barber is dialed in. She um her internet is down, so the phone number you see here is is Barber. [0:19:44, 0:19:45]: Okay. [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: So we'll give it a minute for I know um [0:20:01, 0:20:04]: I know Max was on his way in and uh [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: There I see Bob's joining now. [0:20:07, 0:20:08]: All right. [0:20:08, 0:20:10]: We should be able to get started. [0:20:12, 0:20:16]: Hello Bob. Hey, how are you? Doing well. [0:20:17, 0:20:18]: So we can [0:20:23, 0:20:23]: Yeah. [0:20:25, 0:20:26]: Yeah. [0:20:27, 0:20:35]: Um I think we have enough of a quorum to get started. So if it's okay with everyone, I'd like to uh try to start on time or as close to it as possible. [0:20:35, 0:20:43]: Um if everyone's okay, I'm gonna go ahead and uh start the webinar, which will allow the uh public um attendees to join. [0:20:43, 0:20:44]: Uh [0:20:44, 0:20:45]: Everyone ready? [0:20:46, 0:20:47]: Yes. [0:20:47, 0:20:55]: Okay, great. So the webinar is now live. So welcome everybody to the uh February 16th. [0:20:55, 0:20:58]: Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority meeting, regular meeting. [0:20:59, 0:21:05]: Uh we'll start off with a roll call. So Bob, if you would please uh call roll and then we'll check to see we are quorum. [0:21:06, 0:21:06]: Okay. [0:21:07, 0:21:08]: So [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: Arthur Christian. Present. [0:21:11, 0:21:13]: Uh, Roger Custom. [0:21:13, 0:21:14]: Present. [0:21:15, 0:21:16]: Lakeisha Gantt. [0:21:18, 0:21:18]: Lakeisha Gantt [0:21:19, 0:21:20]: Самі кокейн. [0:21:21, 0:21:21]: Is it? [0:21:23, 0:21:24]: Barber Richardson [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Present. [0:21:26, 0:21:27]: Thank you. [0:21:27, 0:21:28]: Maxwell Sears. [0:21:31, 0:21:32]: Actual Seers. [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: Okay, uh Bob Swagert, I'm here. [0:21:36, 0:21:37]: Well. [0:21:37, 0:21:38]: Pretty important. [0:21:38, 0:21:39]: Six um [0:21:39, 0:21:40]: Members to present. [0:21:41, 0:21:45]: One, two, three, fourth. I count [0:21:46, 0:21:47]: Five? [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: But either way that makes a quorum. [0:21:52, 0:21:53]: Uh okay. [0:21:53, 0:22:00]: All right, great. So we'll go ahead and get the meeting started. Thank you, Bob. So the first item on the agenda is to approve [0:22:00, 0:22:03]: Today's meeting agenda, uh Bob sent a um [0:22:04, 0:22:15]: uh a version February sixteenth. Um I'll check, I'll pause to see if everyone present has had a chance to review that and if there's any questions and then I'll take a motion to go ahead and approve today's agenda. [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: I move that we accept today's gender agenda as printed. [0:22:22, 0:22:23]: Uh second. [0:22:25, 0:22:26]: Okay. [0:22:27, 0:22:29]: Any other discussion? [0:22:30, 0:22:37]: So we have a motion to approve today's meeting agenda as uh printed and Bob uh Mr. Christian has moved to um [0:22:38, 0:22:44]: Approved the agenda and Bob has moved and seconded the motion. Um no further discussion. Um [0:22:45, 0:22:47]: I think we can do this by a uh [0:22:48, 0:23:08]: Bob, I I'm gonna defer to you. How would you prefer to record or you and Vanessa, would you prefer we do a roll call for each of the votes? I know it's easier when we're doing Zoom calls, but now that I've transferred this to either of you, I'll let you speak your preference, whether we just do a yay or nay or a show of hands or do a roll call. Any any comment on that as far [0:23:08, 0:23:09]: RS procedure. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: I don't have any preference. Do you do you Vanessa or? [0:23:12, 0:23:19]: For me it's a show a show of hands unless there is technical difficulties where we'll need to hear a verbal. [0:23:20, 0:23:34]: Okay, great. And I should note that Barber is voice only today. So we'll we'll at least let's uh let's hear from Barber first and then we can say a show of hands as far as all who approved today's agenda. [0:23:36, 0:23:36]: Uh yay. [0:23:37, 0:23:38]: All right. [0:23:42, 0:23:42]: Right. [0:23:43, 0:23:55]: And for the record, uh Mr. Sears has joined the meeting. He was last I uh yeah I I I can't vote on something I didn't hear, but I guess I guess I'll get it we I was having a problem getting on. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: Okay. [0:23:57, 0:24:00]: Well, we see you welcome and we hear you loud and clear. Thank you, Mr. Sears. [0:24:01, 0:24:04]: But you wanna give me a list of snap or I'll abstain. So if you wanna give me a little [0:24:05, 0:24:07]: Quick insight on what you [0:24:07, 0:24:16]: raising your hand about Oh thank you. It was to approve today's agenda as president. Okay. I can do that part. [0:24:17, 0:24:20]: Right. Um do you all see the note from [0:24:20, 0:24:27]: Councilwoman again, it needs to be um Roger, if you would. Yeah, I can bring her in. All right. Right. [0:24:30, 0:24:31]: All right, uh [0:24:32, 0:24:35]: Council McGantt, can you hear me? [0:24:35, 0:24:37]: Very good. Thank you. [0:24:39, 0:24:40]: All right. [0:24:41, 0:25:01]: We just voted on approving today's uh meeting agenda and it was approved. Uh next item on the agenda is to approve January 19th, 2021 meeting minutes. These were sent um February 14th. Um actually that's the one that Bob sent. Um I misspoke in the earlier version. [0:25:01, 0:25:06]: Um so I'll take a motion to approve the meeting minutes for January. [0:25:08, 0:25:11]: I move that we approve the meeting minutes from January as printed. [0:25:13, 0:25:13]: Second. [0:25:15, 0:25:17]: Hot second, okay. [0:25:17, 0:25:29]: And we'll do a show of hands. Um Barber, you'll need to say yes or no on this one if you want to approve January's meeting minutes and the rest of us will do a show of hands to approve. [0:25:30, 0:25:30]: Yes. [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: Very good. [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: Is to be unanimous. [0:25:36, 0:25:38]: I abstained, I wasn't there present. [0:25:39, 0:25:41]: Okay, ex except for Miss Gan. [0:25:44, 0:25:52]: Thank you. We'll move on to the next item. Next item is a correction to the December 15th meeting minutes. [0:25:53, 0:26:02]: They were approved in the January meeting, but um in further review, as we were putting them away, I found that there was a typographical error. [0:26:02, 0:26:22]: Um I sent that in an email on February 8th with the corrected version of the minutes to reflect the um vote actually for the chair. I also sent the meeting recording for that segment of the December meeting. If anybody wanted to review that section of the meeting, so I'd like to take a moment. [0:26:22, 0:26:27]: motion to or I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve the correction that was [0:26:27, 0:26:37]: The correction to the December 15th, 2020 DDA meeting minutes that was sent to the board February 8th of this year. [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: A second. But [0:26:45, 0:26:46]: Thank you, Art. [0:26:48, 0:26:54]: And we'll is there any discussion on the um correction to the December meeting minutes? [0:26:58, 0:27:09]: I'm not seeing any or to hear, so we'll go ahead and move to a vote to approve the correction to the December 15th meeting minutes. Uh all those in favor, show your hand and Barber Fields say yes or no. [0:27:11, 0:27:11]: Yes. [0:27:12, 0:27:13]: I have stayed. [0:27:13, 0:27:15]: Thank you, Sumikua. [0:27:20, 0:27:20]: All right. [0:27:21, 0:27:36]: Vanessa, you have the votes? Very good. All right. Very good. We'll move on to the main part of the agenda then. Um, just some opening remarks. I met with Mr. McCrae, our uh legal attorney earlier this uh actually what lot last week. [0:27:36, 0:27:50]: To just go over now that we've kind of are wrapping up the purchase and sale agreement with the Sell Vane um transaction. Um I was just checking in on where we were in terms of uh [0:27:50, 0:27:59]: current billing so far and what work we would engage um Mr. McRae with going forward on behalf of the DDA. [0:28:01, 0:28:07]: Mr. Custin, I'm sorry, real quick. Miss Bragg was trying to get on. Oh, thank you. She's on the other side as well. [0:28:08, 0:28:16]: All right. I see a person labeled as Galaxy Note. [0:28:17, 0:28:18]: So I'm gonna let [0:28:18, 0:28:20]: That person speak. [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: Hello. [0:28:25, 0:28:27]: Um Kira, is that you? [0:28:27, 0:28:36]: Oh very good, she's saying in the chat. Let me bring it respond, that's her. Okay, then let me um let me uh bring you in as a panelist. [0:28:40, 0:28:42]: Thank you, Councilwoman. [0:28:43, 0:28:49]: Uh Kira, can you hear us? And are you able to speak? I just want to touch that before we move on. [0:28:52, 0:28:53]: And your mute is on, by the way. [0:28:56, 0:28:57]: Yeah. [0:28:57, 0:29:09]: Okay, can you hear me now? I can hear you, Kira. Thanks for joining. Okay, thank you. Sorry about that. No worries. All right. So uh I was uh just reviewing the conversation I had with Mr. McRae. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: Um [0:29:11, 0:29:29]: uh last week. So um other than the uh Sylvain transaction, which of course he's he's working to its conclusion, um the uh some items that we had that had been pending, we kind of talked about this in prior meetings, but I just wanted to clarify with the board what [0:29:29, 0:29:48]: We've agreed to as far as uh uh work for the DDA. Uh from this point forward, I I suggested he doesn't necessarily need to attend this meeting. Um, he charges the hourly rate and for him to unless unless there is a reason in advance where we feel like he may need. [0:29:48, 0:30:08]: We made his representation for a given topic on the agenda. I didn't think that was a good use of his time or the city's funds or the DDA's funds to just have him listening in on our meetings. So I just kind of wanted to check that with the board to make sure that there was no disagreement with that approach. But as far as his work. [0:30:08, 0:30:21]: work. There's a couple things that I want to have him take a look at. One is to review current open contracts that the DDA has engaged in. There are two. [0:30:21, 0:30:22]: There is the uh [0:30:23, 0:30:30]: uh master planning uh contract with a firm called TSW. I've mentioned this a few times in this meeting. [0:30:32, 0:30:34]: Uh sorry, Kira, did you have something to say? [0:30:35, 0:30:37]: Okay. I'm sorry, I'm trying to mute. [0:30:37, 0:30:38]: That's fine. [0:30:38, 0:30:58]: Um, so there's the TSW master planning agreement, and we just want him want him to review that just to make sure that there are no um unusual risks with um that contract, and especially given that it's been in that it's currently in a suspended state. The other one was from a couple of years prior. It's a contract that we have with. [0:30:58, 0:31:18]: The firm called JLL. And I think they're like a developer broker, and they were supposed there was no monies exchanged or anything like that. This was a contract where they would get paid if they brought us a developer that was interested in doing business here in the city within the district. So Mr. McCrae is looking at those two contracts just to see if there's any unusual risk. [0:31:18, 0:31:20]: risks that we need to be aware of. [0:31:21, 0:31:24]: I'll pause for any comments or questions on that point. [0:31:27, 0:31:31]: Not seeing or hearing anything. I'm sorry. This is horrible. Um [0:31:31, 0:31:35]: Is the T S W contract suspended due to COVID or for other reasons? [0:31:36, 0:31:45]: I would say yes to both. Um, it was it was suspended for other reasons, but it was further impacted by COVID. But yeah, it all happened around the same time. [0:31:47, 0:31:48]: Okay. [0:31:49, 0:32:09]: Okay. Um the other items I asked Mr. McCrae to help us with is to uh review the facade grant and the program. Um I'll let um Mr. Christian speak to that uh when we get to that point of the agenda. But uh Art, if you're just aware that you know, whatever materials we have that we would like to send over. [0:32:09, 0:32:29]: over to Mr. McCrae for his review. Really, his review is just going to be from a legal perspective, just to say, yeah, you need to have this language in here or no, that language is not appropriate. As far as the operation of the program, I think we're, we're, we're, we're, we're in good shape with uh working with Mr. Peterson on that piece. But just want to let you know that door [0:32:29, 0:32:33]: Doors open if you need his review for anything related to the facade grant. [0:32:33, 0:32:34]: Thank you. [0:32:35, 0:32:35]: Um [0:32:36, 0:32:43]: The the next is an item that I I really need to have a discussion. We need to have a discussion with the city. There's long been a [0:32:43, 0:33:03]: Kind of off on and off, there's been an interest in having uh kind of a formalized intergovernmental agreement between the DDA and the city. Um the city, you know, provides funds to the DDA and it's the sole source of funds for this organization, but there is no formal standing IGA between the two. [0:33:03, 0:33:23]: Two organizations. We purposely limited the IGA that was signed for the purchase and sale agreement to that one transaction because we wanted to, you know, move quickly on that particular transaction and not let it get bogged down with, you know, sort of this larger standing IGA. But I know [0:33:23, 0:33:27]: that at least I have an interest in seeing that sort of um [0:33:29, 0:33:49]: you know, uh established in a written form as far as what the expectations are between the two. So I'll pause on this one also for comment. Um uh council McGann, I I I'd like to hear your thoughts on whether there would be an interest you think from the city's perspective in having an IGA between the DDA and the city. Do you have any any comments on that? [0:33:50, 0:33:51]: Um [0:33:51, 0:33:52]: I don't think that [0:33:53, 0:33:54]: That is unreasonable. [0:33:54, 0:33:57]: I don't think that's an unreasonable request. [0:33:57, 0:33:57]: Um [0:33:58, 0:34:00]: We can see where it goes, but I I think that [0:34:01, 0:34:02]: Um but [0:34:02, 0:34:07]: based off of the Georgia laws with the DDA and the way it's established. [0:34:08, 0:34:20]: Um, you know, whether or not the city and there may be some discussion on whether or not, you know, we need an agreement at this time, you know, based off of the appointments or what even though we're a separate entity. [0:34:20, 0:34:24]: The D DA is a separate entity. But I don't think that it would be an issue. [0:34:25, 0:34:27]: All right, thank you me personally. [0:34:27, 0:34:47]: Thank you. I appreciate that. Um yeah, I I Mr. McCrae advised us low, well, before we get into you know developing one, let's see if the city even, you know, if you think there even is an appetite for that. So that that that's really the purpose of me bringing it up in in this forum. Um Mr. Peterson, I know I will notify them there in council about that. [0:34:47, 0:35:00]: Sure, great. Uh and then I guess let us know if there's any uh you know feedback one way or the other. Um, you know, of course we'll work out the details of what it should or should not include and so forth, but you know, at a minimum I think there should be some expectation of [0:35:01, 0:35:16]: You know, a lot of things that come to mind is, you know, we rely on the city for a lot of the staff services, uh, things like, you know, the website, um, you know, office space, things like that. And and you know, maybe there should be mention of those types of things that that we rely on the city for. [0:35:17, 0:35:20]: Um and there of course there are other things. I'm just speaking top of mind at this point. [0:35:21, 0:35:32]: Um Mr. Peterson, I know you're relatively new to the organization, but I I guess I'll open it up uh for you as as the city liaison to this DEA organization. [0:35:32, 0:35:41]: Any uh if any any comments at this point, or if you could also take that back to your team and and see if there's any interest in an IGA between the city and DDA. [0:35:42, 0:35:48]: Yes, I'll um I'll ask um the city about that. I'm for an IGA because um [0:35:49, 0:35:55]: lets everyone know what their roles are, what expectations are. So um I I'll definitely ask about that. [0:35:55, 0:35:57]: I'll I'll ask I'll send Mr. Knight an email about it. [0:35:58, 0:36:06]: Very good. And and I'm not, you know, I wanted to bring it up to this group first before, you know, reaching out to Mr. Knighton or others in the city. So thank you. [0:36:06, 0:36:11]: Um I'll open it up for any other comments, discussion, anything on the intergovernmental agreement. [0:36:16, 0:36:18]: Or potential, I should say. [0:36:19, 0:36:19]: All right. [0:36:20, 0:36:25]: Not hearing any. The uh the last item I spoke with Mr. McCrae about was uh this actually came up. [0:36:26, 0:36:30]: When we were doing the officer votes and I think it was the November meeting. [0:36:31, 0:36:31]: Um [0:36:32, 0:36:47]: That there is a bylaw in our in the DDA bylaws, there is a um officer position for a recording secretary. And we chose at that time not to fill that position because there was kind of a [0:36:47, 0:36:47]: General [0:36:48, 0:36:49]: Філлинг [0:36:49, 0:36:53]: That it was a bit redundant with the actual secretary. [0:36:54, 0:37:00]: And uh, but in order for us to you know codify that, we'd have to uh update the bylaws. [0:37:00, 0:37:10]: Um interesting update. Um when I was transitioning our uh secretary records from myself over to Mr. Schweigert uh about a month ago. [0:37:10, 0:37:21]: Um, I discovered there's actually a new version of the DDA bylaws that I was not aware of previously. So um there was a version that was updated in April 2015. [0:37:21, 0:37:23]: And also [0:37:23, 0:37:25]: References a recording секретарі. [0:37:26, 0:37:30]: Um so there's two points with this. One is I think we need to [0:37:31, 0:37:45]: Clarify and perhaps revise the DDA's bylaws to make sure that we are all in agreement as to what the current version is. Um, but specifically, I think we'd like to address the issue of [0:37:46, 0:38:06]: Perhaps removing the need or the, you know, the naming of a recording secretary in our bylaws. And there may be other things that we want to consider updating in the bylaws as we're going through it. But I just wanted to bring that up for really for discussion at this point. And I handed the both versions of the bylaws over to Mr. McCray for. [0:38:06, 0:38:12]: for him to begin his review. So I'll just open it up to anyone who wants to uh speak to that. Any comments? [0:38:18, 0:38:22]: Is there any way that we can eliminate or combine the [0:38:23, 0:38:23]: Position of [0:38:24, 0:38:25]: Uh [0:38:26, 0:38:35]: Secretary and recording secretary. I mean m miss Miss Holliday is very graciously uh essentially acting as our recording secretary. I don't know that she wants that to be [0:38:36, 0:38:37]: Formally um [0:38:37, 0:38:38]: Um [0:38:39, 0:38:40]: Codified. [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: But [0:38:43, 0:38:53]: Uh yeah, to answer your question, yes. It's just a matter of updating, you know, we'd have to uh formally approve the updates to the D D A bylaws and then it would either [0:38:53, 0:39:05]: eliminate naming having to name the a recording secretary or we could write it such that it's assumed that the secretary position would serve as that [0:39:05, 0:39:14]: in that role. I mean there's a number of ways which we can go about addressing that, but yeah, it would it would in in in any way we go about it, we'd have to update the bylaws to address it. [0:39:17, 0:39:24]: Did that answer your question, uh? Yeah, I I I I guess I guess my preference would be just to to eliminate the position of recording secretary. [0:39:24, 0:39:26]: Uh just eliminate that title, I guess. [0:39:27, 0:39:27]: Right. [0:39:28, 0:39:37]: Yeah, I I don't know the ins and outs legally as to whether there's a preference one way or the other, but you know, that's what I would defer to Mr. McCray and of course the board on their preference. [0:39:37, 0:39:46]: Any other discussion on those points? Yeah, what are the the differences between the two? Like what what does one do that the other one [0:39:48, 0:40:03]: Doesn't it? It's a good question. I think essentially they both serve a secretary role and I I am not an expert on this, but the recording secretary, as I understand it, can be um someone who is not a voting member of the DDA. [0:40:03, 0:40:14]: So you know we could hire someone or assign that to someone in the city staff like like we're doing. Um but but whereas the secretary actually is a [0:40:14, 0:40:29]: The secretary is a named position. It's it as per the, as far as I understand it, per the statute. So the state law says you have to have a secretary, chair, vice chair, and treasurer. The recording secretary is optional depending on how the bylaws are written. [0:40:30, 0:40:37]: So I see the secretary as kind of kind of a custodian in a in a way. Yeah. A an archival custodian uh to [0:40:38, 0:40:40]: To come up with a title, but uh [0:40:42, 0:40:50]: But that's probably the difference. Whereas the the recording secretary, my understanding, basically doing what Miss Holiday is doing, which is actually [0:40:50, 0:40:51]: Um [0:40:51, 0:40:53]: Oh taking the minute. [0:40:56, 0:40:56]: All right. [0:40:57, 0:40:58]: Any other thoughts or questions? [0:41:01, 0:41:13]: All right, we'll move on. Let's see the next item on the agenda. Those that's all the updates I had. So uh thank you for indulging me on that. And I'll turn it over to uh Barber uh Richardson for the treasurer's update. [0:41:17, 0:41:18]: Okay, so [0:41:19, 0:41:22]: Nothing has changed as of well [0:41:22, 0:41:30]: Couple of things. We were able to get everything, the signature cards and everything switched over from the prior treasurer to myself and Roger. [0:41:30, 0:41:32]: Um so we are now um [0:41:33, 0:41:34]: Have custody of the bank account, if you will. [0:41:35, 0:41:37]: As of January thirty first. [0:41:37, 0:41:42]: The bank balances have remained the same. There was no activity in the month of January. [0:41:43, 0:41:45]: So just for reference, that operating account. [0:41:46, 0:41:50]: Is ninety seven thousand four hundred four dollars and sixty one cents. [0:41:51, 0:41:55]: And the facade grant is forty four thousand. [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: Nine hundred seventy two dollars and five cents. [0:41:58, 0:42:02]: This FYI going forward, I will have actual financial reports to um [0:42:03, 0:42:09]: to provide us is that at the time and when we got all this switched over, um, hadn't had enough time to get that done yet. [0:42:09, 0:42:10]: But um [0:42:10, 0:42:11]: Also [0:42:12, 0:42:18]: As we stated last month, fifty thousand dollars of the operating grant needs to be transferred over to the facade grant. [0:42:18, 0:42:19]: You will see that [0:42:19, 0:42:22]: happened in February. In fact it already has happened. [0:42:22, 0:42:27]: Just not in January. Um, so the January balances that I gave you are as of the statement. [0:42:28, 0:42:29]: January thirty first. [0:42:30, 0:42:30]: Um [0:42:31, 0:42:34]: Other than that, there's nothing let me look at my list. [0:42:35, 0:42:44]: A few outstanding invoices that will get caught up this month. Um, there's one$830 invoice due to TSW. [0:42:45, 0:42:52]: as well as a few uh invoices that we owe to the city for uh CDA training and plaques. [0:42:52, 0:42:54]: Main badge is just like that, but [0:42:55, 0:42:58]: Um, as I stated, all those things will be paid out this month. [0:42:58, 0:42:59]: And um [0:43:01, 0:43:02]: We will begin having [0:43:03, 0:43:07]: real financial reporting, uh, for our next meeting. [0:43:07, 0:43:08]: But [0:43:08, 0:43:10]: There are any questions? [0:43:10, 0:43:12]: I will entertain them. [0:43:17, 0:43:19]: Okay, then that concludes my report. [0:43:21, 0:43:30]: Thank you, Barber. Uh great work. I really should appreciate you stepping up for the treasurer role. And uh I think we've got a good support foundation. So thank you for your work on that. [0:43:30, 0:43:35]: Uh next up, uh Bob, uh any secretary updates for the for the board? [0:43:35, 0:43:39]: Uh I I met with um Mr Um [0:43:39, 0:43:43]: The city attorney, I can't I his name escapes me right now, but um [0:43:44, 0:43:51]: Uh I met with him last week. He came came by the house'cause he needed my signature on uh one of the PSA documents. [0:43:51, 0:43:53]: And so I I did that. [0:43:53, 0:43:53]: Uh [0:43:54, 0:44:03]: signed multiple copies and uh it's my understanding that the I'm talking about the the the restaurant PSA. Um that that that is um [0:44:03, 0:44:04]: being finalized. [0:44:06, 0:44:09]: And hopefully at this point it should be pretty pretty wrapped up. [0:44:12, 0:44:14]: А до нем [0:44:15, 0:44:15]: That's [0:44:16, 0:44:17]: That's all I have. [0:44:18, 0:44:19]: Great. Any questions for Bob? [0:44:23, 0:44:28]: All right, we'll move on to the next item. So Mr. Christian, uh facade brand update. [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: Yes, good evening, everyone. [0:44:33, 0:44:38]: So a few of us basically had a committee meeting regarding the facade grant on February tenth. [0:44:39, 0:44:40]: And it was very productive, included um [0:44:42, 0:44:45]: Mr. Peterson, the chair, myself, Barber Richardson, the treasurer. [0:44:46, 0:44:48]: Uh Kira Bragg's uh Main Street. [0:44:48, 0:44:49]: Yeah. [0:44:49, 0:44:50]: I miss anybody. [0:44:50, 0:44:50]: Sure. [0:44:51, 0:44:55]: And we were discussing basically where things are with the current uh reimbursement. [0:44:56, 0:44:57]: Or Fletcher and Suns. [0:44:57, 0:44:58]: And [0:44:59, 0:45:01]: Had some good conversation about that. I'll be [0:45:02, 0:45:08]: uh getting back in touch with Mr. Fletcher because I did meet with him in person and, you know, discuss the facade grant. [0:45:08, 0:45:12]: To make sure that the receipts that I get from him, you know, are covered. [0:45:13, 0:45:15]: uh according to the contract. [0:45:16, 0:45:20]: Uh, one thing that we did mention uh during that committee meeting was [0:45:21, 0:45:23]: The idea of [0:45:23, 0:45:25]: Акчели коверні [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: Sign permitting fees. [0:45:27, 0:45:29]: That may be charged to [0:45:29, 0:45:30]: Any [0:45:30, 0:45:31]: Um [0:45:31, 0:45:32]: facade grant. [0:45:32, 0:45:33]: Grantees. [0:45:34, 0:45:36]: And um that's something that [0:45:36, 0:45:37]: Um [0:45:37, 0:45:41]: I'd definitely be making a motion for so we can have some discussion just to see where things are with that. [0:45:42, 0:45:43]: Um [0:45:43, 0:45:43]: Yeah. [0:45:44, 0:45:47]: We discussed uh of course finishing out that project. [0:45:48, 0:45:52]: Um, shoring up our policies and procedures for future. [0:45:52, 0:45:57]: uh facade grant and the application process, the reimbursement process, et cetera. [0:45:58, 0:45:59]: Uh [0:46:00, 0:46:01]: Roger had brought up yeah. [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: The need for [0:46:03, 0:46:07]: The website being updated with links that are current and active. [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: To [0:46:08, 0:46:09]: Current information. [0:46:10, 0:46:14]: But uh Mr. Peterson also brought up that well, we definitely need to fix that website first. [0:46:15, 0:46:16]: Um [0:46:16, 0:46:21]: But we'll need those, you know, the updated materials in order to put or link to the website. [0:46:22, 0:46:23]: And uh [0:46:23, 0:46:24]: Let's see, let's see. [0:46:26, 0:46:28]: Talked about the need for marketing the program. [0:46:28, 0:46:30]: We've got a good piece uh [0:46:30, 0:46:33]: Good amount of money funds in that program that uh [0:46:34, 0:46:43]: And according to Ms. Richardson, we'll be increasing by 50,000 as you know have we known for a few months now, at least since I've been on the board. [0:46:43, 0:46:45]: And [0:46:45, 0:46:48]: Also I brought up the idea of whether [0:46:49, 0:46:51]: I'd love to know get you all's input on whether [0:46:52, 0:46:53]: The board members thinks that [0:46:54, 0:46:55]: Uh business cards. [0:46:55, 0:46:58]: uh for the board members would be something that we might want. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Um [0:46:59, 0:47:02]: As we market program, as we speak to business owners. [0:47:03, 0:47:06]: You know, to try to promote economic development and, you know, movement in the downtown area. [0:47:07, 0:47:08]: And um [0:47:09, 0:47:11]: That's my report so far. [0:47:11, 0:47:13]: Did anyone have any questions or comments? [0:47:19, 0:47:39]: I'm not hearing any, but I will make uh one update. Um Vanessa helped us correct the broken links that were on the website for the facade grants. So that that's that's now been those links have been restored. So we have the original documents uh shown there. Uh and I'll just say um Art, thank you for you know taking the lead on this project. Uh I know [0:47:39, 0:47:53]: It's uh taking a lot of your time and it's uh you've done some great work and making some progress. Uh you and Mr. Peterson and Kira and all involved. Uh it's been um we've made more progress in the last few weeks than we have in the last couple of years. [0:47:54, 0:48:00]: Roger. Yes. Roger, hi. If um I might um also add [0:48:00, 0:48:07]: Um in that committee meeting there was also some discussion with regard to um the amount [0:48:07, 0:48:13]: um being looked at as far as the facade grant program maybe having um [0:48:13, 0:48:17]: Um a another aspect of the program. [0:48:17, 0:48:21]: Where um a larger grant might be available to [0:48:21, 0:48:23]: А проспектив бізнес. [0:48:23, 0:48:25]: That has a larger project. [0:48:25, 0:48:29]: So I think um scope of project was something that [0:48:29, 0:48:30]: You we [0:48:30, 0:48:35]: also talked about. So that's something that you all might want to look at in the future as well. [0:48:38, 0:48:40]: Thank you, appreciate that, Kira. [0:48:46, 0:48:52]: All right, any other comments uh for um art on the facade grant? [0:48:54, 0:48:55]: Um [0:48:55, 0:48:56]: Art, did you want to go ahead and [0:48:57, 0:49:00]: Consider the motion at this stage for [0:49:00, 0:49:03]: Yes, I move that the [0:49:03, 0:49:05]: DA board covers [0:49:05, 0:49:07]: Permitting signed fees. [0:49:08, 0:49:10]: Including retroactively for [0:49:10, 0:49:11]: our current um [0:49:13, 0:49:16]: application that is still out there that hasn't been fully re reimbursed. [0:49:19, 0:49:21]: And FYI, the current [0:49:21, 0:49:26]: Signed permit sign permitting fee is two hundred and twenty five dollars charged by the city of Stockholm. [0:49:29, 0:49:49]: I'd like to second the motion, but I I want to offer an amendment to it, uh, under the condition that the sign is part of the facade. So we we want to clarify that we wouldn't pay for the sign fee if it's a separate sign, but if it is and and just to kind of bring everyone up to speed, the the current applicants um [0:49:49, 0:50:02]: um has um a kind of a a a retro looking um I'll call it a mural that is the sign for the business, but it's painted onto the building. And and that's a that's a bit of the um [0:50:03, 0:50:17]: um where the sign fee overlaps with the actual facade. So I I think um art to the point we're bringing to the board today, it's uh approval to pay the to cover the reimburse the cost of the sign fee. [0:50:17, 0:50:22]: if it if the sign is part of the uh facade for the uh facade grant application. [0:50:23, 0:50:32]: I accept that amendment. All right, great. Is this a um reimbursable fee or is it something that we would pay on the front end? [0:50:36, 0:50:37]: Mark, did you want to take that? [0:50:38, 0:50:40]: Well, it can be either or. [0:50:40, 0:50:41]: Um [0:50:41, 0:50:43]: What do you all what do you all think? [0:50:44, 0:50:47]: Um, I would recommend that it be reimbursable. [0:50:48, 0:50:49]: Yeah, of course. [0:50:50, 0:50:50]: A lot. [0:50:52, 0:50:53]: Okay. [0:50:55, 0:50:59]: But then I can I'll amend the motion to say that it would be reimbursable. [0:50:59, 0:51:00]: All right. [0:51:00, 0:51:00]: Correct. [0:51:01, 0:51:21]: So we have a motion for the uh DDA to consider um reimbursing the sign fee, the city's signed fee of two hundred twenty-five dollars. Um, if the sign is part of the facade. Um and it's been uh the motion's been made and it has been seconded. Uh any other discussion? I'm sorry, one thing, Roger. I don't want to put the [0:51:21, 0:51:26]: The amount in there just in case that changes. Oh sure. That was just for F FY. [0:51:26, 0:51:28]: Good point. Thank you. I agree. [0:51:29, 0:51:35]: Um any other discussion? Who was the second the purpose of this meeting? Uh I was okay. [0:51:36, 0:51:39]: We love it because we have started down that path already. [0:51:40, 0:51:41]: Any other discussion? [0:51:43, 0:51:46]: Not seeing or hearing any, so let's go ahead. I'm sorry. [0:51:48, 0:51:50]: Thought I heard something. All right. [0:51:51, 0:52:04]: Well, let's go ahead and um and um and call for a vote. So uh yes in favor of reimbursing the signed feat as part of the facade grant. So Barber, you'll need to speak to that, and then the rest of us will show our hand if we're in favor of it. [0:52:05, 0:52:06]: Yes. [0:52:07, 0:52:13]: Great. Um all right, so I think the motion passes. It looks unanimous. Thank you, everyone. [0:52:15, 0:52:18]: Uh Art, anything else uh to share with the board? [0:52:18, 0:52:19]: Uh no, that's it. [0:52:20, 0:52:20]: Very good. [0:52:20, 0:52:27]: Thanks again. All right, next item on the agenda is uh city staff updates. So Mr. Peterson, if you want you have the floor. [0:52:32, 0:52:32]: Okay. [0:52:34, 0:52:38]: All right. Thanks a lot, Roger. I don't have an update uh for now. I sent [0:52:38, 0:52:44]: You all uh templates for the facade grant and uh some other documents relating to that. [0:52:45, 0:52:59]: And um help you all receive those. If you didn't, please let me know. Uh Roger, I had a quick question for you regarding the IGA. Has there ever been an IGA between the DDA and the city? Or will this be possibly the first one? [0:53:00, 0:53:01]: Um [0:53:02, 0:53:21]: Maybe um uh councilman Gadd, I might defer that to you because I think you have a longer history. There may have been an IGA with the earlier incarnation of the DDA, but I'm not aware of one that has been in place since the DDA was reconstituted, which I think was around 2014, 2015, something. [0:53:21, 0:53:30]: Uh 2015, I think we started back up. Um Miss Holiday, didn't we have an IGA? We hadn't or was that just an agreement with the chair? [0:53:31, 0:53:39]: With uh with uh Mr. W JT Williams. It was just an IGA for his position, or did we have an IGA? [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: Originally. That was before [0:53:41, 0:53:42]: I think I we started [0:53:44, 0:53:48]: We had a new g uh D DA established in twenty fifteen. That's when I came on. [0:53:49, 0:53:51]: In twenty fourteen, I was working on. [0:53:53, 0:54:06]: taking care of that old DDA um issue that we had. Do you recall that that there was an IGA at that time? The the agreement with him was as executive director, but not with the board. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: As a whole. Okay. [0:54:09, 0:54:12]: So we I don't believe we've had an IGA. [0:54:12, 0:54:14]: And you know [0:54:15, 0:54:16]: Um [0:54:16, 0:54:18]: I don't believe we've had one in the past, no. [0:54:19, 0:54:19]: Okay. [0:54:20, 0:54:23]: And if it if it stipulates to certain things, um [0:54:23, 0:54:26]: I don't know how mayor and council will feel about it. [0:54:27, 0:54:28]: But you know [0:54:28, 0:54:30]: I'm definitely open to it. [0:54:31, 0:54:32]: Okay. [0:54:33, 0:54:38]: And I've already sent an email asking them about the IGA. What what are thoughts on, you know? [0:54:38, 0:54:44]: So we can just lay out things so the DDA can, you know, be assured that these are [0:54:45, 0:54:50]: things that we will continue to do as a city. Okay. Now uh council member again I have a question for you. [0:54:50, 0:54:55]: Does uh would it be best if the DDA would provide you with a template first? [0:54:56, 0:55:10]: So you can show it to council to see what what their views are on that on that template or on that example. Well, exactly. Okay so I just threw out that we discussed possibly in IDA, but the DDA would definitely have to draft. [0:55:10, 0:55:24]: Um immersion first prior to I wouldn't just yeah, absolutely okay. All right, just checking so like a quick little summary of okay. Okay, so Roger, I'll I'll send you uh an example. [0:55:25, 0:55:25]: Um [0:55:27, 0:55:29]: And then we can get it to to Councilwoman Gantt. [0:55:29, 0:55:30]: Excellent. [0:55:30, 0:55:31]: Thank you. [0:55:31, 0:55:34]: Mm-hmm. Anything else for the groups, Regison? [0:55:34, 0:55:35]: That's it. [0:55:35, 0:55:36]: All right, thank you. [0:55:36, 0:55:39]: I d I never got anything, Mr. Peterson. If you sent it to [0:55:41, 0:55:43]: I never got anything from you. [0:55:43, 0:55:57]: I can forward it to you, Samiqua. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I'll send it to the whole board. Okay. Thank you. It was just sent to those of us that were working on the uh facade grant um work. [0:55:57, 0:56:00]: But it'll it'll I'll I'll send it out to everybody now. [0:56:01, 0:56:02]: Thank you. [0:56:03, 0:56:12]: All right, next up is the um Main Street Advisory Board updates. Uh so Barber, I'll start with you and then we can turn it over to Kira unless you want to reverse that. [0:56:14, 0:56:18]: Yes, please go to Kira. Um I unfortunately had to miss the last meeting. [0:56:19, 0:56:21]: Okay. All right, Kira, you have the floor. [0:56:22, 0:56:38]: Okay, um good evening everyone. Um I just have a a very quick update with the um Main Street program. Um because of COVID, we haven't been as public with our programs and community activities, but we have been [0:56:38, 0:56:41]: Um working behind the scenes on several projects. [0:56:42, 0:56:43]: Uh we are um [0:56:44, 0:56:51]: Moving forward with the alleyway uh revitalization project that is um the area that is located. [0:56:51, 0:56:54]: between Martin Luther King Singer Heritage Trail [0:56:54, 0:56:55]: And Burke Street. [0:56:56, 0:57:04]: Um that particular program project rather is in the um design phase as far as the engineering is concerned. [0:57:05, 0:57:12]: So we're just waiting to um get those drawing back drawings back from um Falcon Design who is um the [0:57:12, 0:57:16]: design um engineering company that is working with us on that. [0:57:16, 0:57:17]: particular project. [0:57:17, 0:57:21]: Um we are also moving forward with. [0:57:21, 0:57:27]: Um the revitalization of um one fourteen Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [0:57:27, 0:57:29]: Which is a um [0:57:30, 0:57:31]: City owned. [0:57:31, 0:57:37]: Building in the downtown area that had been um without a tenant for [0:57:37, 0:57:42]: Um several years and was um pretty much an eyesore in the downtown area. [0:57:42, 0:57:54]: So we are working to revitalize that particular site so that it we can attract a business, preferably retailer restaurant, to that particular location. [0:57:54, 0:58:01]: Uh we are also working on the transitioning of the Ted Strickland Community Center. [0:58:01, 0:58:02]: to um [0:58:02, 0:58:05]: Беку майт. [0:58:05, 0:58:14]: Program office, or rather the downtown program office, which would house the Main Street program, economic development. [0:58:14, 0:58:28]: and also serve as a welcome center for the downtown area in the city of Stockbridge. So we're got three construction projects that are in the works at this point. [0:58:29, 0:58:37]: And we are also preparing for our um annual planning. Um one of the requirements for the Main Street program is to [0:58:37, 0:58:39]: do an annual um [0:58:40, 0:58:42]: Working ri and planning retreat. [0:58:42, 0:58:48]: And our board at our last meeting, which was held on um February twelfth. [0:58:49, 0:58:57]: has made the request that I come to the Downtown Development Authority Board to ask that this year's retreat [0:58:57, 0:59:17]: Um be a joint retreat, a joint planning retreat with the Downtown Development Authority and the Main Street Advisory Board. We are excited about the new leadership and the direction that the DDA is going at this time, and we feel that it's definitely opportune, would be opportune. [0:59:17, 0:59:22]: For us to come together, the two groups come together to start. [0:59:22, 0:59:24]: Um with our planning for um [0:59:25, 0:59:26]: Long range. [0:59:26, 0:59:33]: So I would just put that out there to you all and um if that is something that you all would desire as well. [0:59:34, 0:59:38]: I will um work with you all so that we can um put that. [0:59:38, 0:59:40]: um planning session together. [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: And um [0:59:42, 0:59:50]: That should be happening within the next few months. So if that's something that you all would like to do, we'll definitely start that planning. [0:59:52, 0:59:54]: And um that is all that I have right now. [0:59:56, 0:59:58]: Thank you, Kira. Um [0:59:58, 1:00:12]: Any any discussion on Cira's updates specifically? I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on uh you know that what I guess what I'd maybe call a strategic planning session, a joint planning session between the two groups, the DDA and the Main Street Advisory Board. [1:00:13, 1:00:17]: Sure. I think that is an awesome idea. I think it'll be great for um [1:00:18, 1:00:20]: Us to be on the same page and be moving in the same direction. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: Right. [1:00:22, 1:00:23]: Uh Ditto. [1:00:25, 1:00:26]: I agree. I agree. [1:00:27, 1:00:29]: Awesome. Okay. [1:00:29, 1:00:31]: This is fabulous. [1:00:31, 1:00:35]: Um so I will um get in contact um [1:00:35, 1:00:37]: with um Roger. [1:00:37, 1:00:45]: And we will um look at the calendar and um we'll start uh working on [1:00:45, 1:00:48]: Um calendaring this particular session. [1:00:48, 1:00:55]: And um then we'll move forward from there and make sure that we give you all updates on um the plans for that particular session. [1:00:56, 1:01:02]: Uh Kira, I have a question that what I'm sorry. Um someone's starting to speak. [1:01:03, 1:01:06]: Well, I had a question as well, but go ahead. Um [1:01:07, 1:01:10]: All right. So my question was uh what [1:01:10, 1:01:18]: Uh what amount of time are we kind of considering? Um I know that that has sometimes ranged from a half a day, full day. [1:01:18, 1:01:23]: overnight type thing or whatever. So what what do you have in mind, Kira, as far as the duration? [1:01:24, 1:01:27]: Right. As part of our um accreditation process. [1:01:27, 1:01:34]: We have to dedicate at least four hours to um annual planning with regard to the Main Street program. [1:01:34, 1:01:38]: So um we have in the past had um [1:01:39, 1:01:45]: Um session, you know, half day sessions that we have conducted on the weekend to ensure [1:01:46, 1:01:49]: that um everyone was um able to attend. [1:01:50, 1:01:53]: Um so we would like to have um at least reserve [1:01:53, 1:01:56]: Like to reserve at least four hours for that. [1:01:56, 1:01:57]: Um [1:01:57, 1:01:58]: Мірень [1:01:58, 1:02:05]: Now, as far as the itinerary is concerned, there may be I don't know if there are things that D DA would want to [1:02:06, 1:02:13]: um work on um you know that wouldn't require that much time but we are required to have a four hour session. [1:02:14, 1:02:15]: Thank you. [1:02:16, 1:02:16]: Council McGain. [1:02:19, 1:02:21]: Thank you. Um [1:02:21, 1:02:25]: Cura Cura's I mean, Main Street's um [1:02:25, 1:02:29]: retreats are very enlightening. The ones that I have attended. [1:02:29, 1:02:31]: I'm I haven't p attended any lately. [1:02:31, 1:02:33]: But I think that it would be a [1:02:33, 1:02:34]: Tremendous. [1:02:35, 1:02:42]: of us it would be outstanding if we could join in with Main Street um being that they are in the downtown [1:02:43, 1:02:45]: The D DA's map errors. [1:02:45, 1:02:53]: Um I also uh Ms. Braggs, I wanted to ask you about the building. You mentioned one fourteen Main Street, I believe. [1:02:53, 1:02:55]: That's the one. [1:02:55, 1:03:04]: Councilwoman Gantt, um, you froze on my um screen for a few minutes. So I didn't hear the first part of your question. Would you mind uh re [1:03:04, 1:03:05]: Um [1:03:05, 1:03:13]: Asking again, please. Sure. Well, first I was commending Main Street's retreats actually and was stating that I think it's a great idea if [1:03:13, 1:03:17]: Main Street and DDA join forces to have that retreat. I I think that would be awesome. [1:03:17, 1:03:25]: Um, the ones that I did go to early on, I thought were really, really good. Um, but my question really was about 114 Main Street. [1:03:26, 1:03:30]: Um yes. Where are you at renovating that? [1:03:30, 1:03:35]: Um I will I'm glad it's being done right now, but I was actually gonna ask the DDA. [1:03:36, 1:03:43]: um the development authority to I saw something recently in another city in Henry County where the DDA [1:03:43, 1:03:48]: took a building and white boxed it and then but they held on to it for a couple of years, but they sold it. [1:03:49, 1:03:51]: Um, I was doing a title thing for it. [1:03:52, 1:03:52]: And so [1:03:53, 1:03:53]: Um [1:03:54, 1:03:55]: Where are we right now? [1:03:56, 1:03:59]: Where is Main Street right now with the one fourteen building? [1:04:00, 1:04:04]: Okay, um we have actually um just recently hosted [1:04:04, 1:04:13]: A meeting with um the city manager, our economic development director, Mr. Peterson, and our facilities manager to [1:04:13, 1:04:15]: Um, look at the um [1:04:15, 1:04:19]: Initial quotes that we've received from different um general contractors. [1:04:20, 1:04:22]: Um, we have another meeting scheduled this week. [1:04:23, 1:04:24]: Um to [1:04:24, 1:04:29]: Um, finalize the procurement process that we need to go through in order to [1:04:29, 1:04:30]: Um select [1:04:30, 1:04:32]: Um a general contractor for that work. [1:04:33, 1:04:36]: But we did just some initial estimates to just kind of see. [1:04:36, 1:04:38]: Um, how much [1:04:38, 1:04:41]: Um, we were looking at with regard to costs for the interior. [1:04:42, 1:04:48]: our work and then the roof work as well. The roof is the the main concern for this particular [1:04:48, 1:04:51]: Um project because it is in such bad shape. [1:04:51, 1:04:56]: Um so we're right now at the pricing stage and then um [1:04:56, 1:04:59]: hopefully we'll be moving to actually trying to [1:04:59, 1:05:03]: Hire a general contractor within the next two months or so. [1:05:04, 1:05:05]: Okay. [1:05:05, 1:05:09]: And in regards to that, are you just white boxing it? [1:05:09, 1:05:23]: Is that yes, it's gonna be just a white box situation. Um we want the grease trap attached to that. I know we at one point we thought it was a grease trap there, but it is not for the other building. Can it attach? Is it attached? What's the story there? [1:05:23, 1:05:28]: Um there is a grease trap at the rear of that building and it can be attached. [1:05:28, 1:05:30]: Um, to that building. [1:05:30, 1:05:34]: Um the you know the plumbing infrastructure would have to be put in because right now [1:05:35, 1:05:37]: Ідезна, імен до з позиціон бин. [1:05:38, 1:05:41]: One fourteen, it is not attached to one fourteen. [1:05:41, 1:05:44]: So um it would have to, you know, be plumbed. [1:05:45, 1:05:46]: to um [1:05:46, 1:05:51]: To service that particular address, um, which you know is an option. [1:05:52, 1:05:53]: So um [1:05:54, 1:06:01]: depend on what you know that's excellent. Listen, I I'm I'm glad it's being done. I know we looked at it earlier on. Um and you I think you were there. [1:06:02, 1:06:05]: When it was raining we had to get the lock changed in order to get in, but [1:06:05, 1:06:08]: That's really good. Um [1:06:09, 1:06:19]: I was gonna bring that up tonight with the DDA. I didn't know you guys had started had gotten gotten that far in the process because uh what again, one of the cities in um Henry County. [1:06:19, 1:06:21]: The downtown develop Main Street is [1:06:22, 1:06:24]: The downtown development authority. [1:06:25, 1:06:25]: Had [1:06:26, 1:06:27]: Done the same exact thing. [1:06:28, 1:06:29]: But they also did it. [1:06:30, 1:06:32]: With the thought of [1:06:32, 1:06:36]: Um, sell in the building. They didn't sell it until about [1:06:36, 1:06:37]: Um [1:06:39, 1:06:42]: for two years later, but they sold it at a profit. [1:06:42, 1:06:43]: Um [1:06:45, 1:06:55]: which then went to that DDA. So I'm hoping that the DDA will come up with, you know, future projects that they can do the same on real estate projects. Right. Kind of like what Madison did. [1:06:56, 1:06:57]: Right. [1:06:57, 1:07:02]: And um, you know, that is what we're looking forward to in Stockbridge as well. [1:07:03, 1:07:04]: Um, you know. [1:07:04, 1:07:08]: holding on to the building in in some way so that we can [1:07:08, 1:07:13]: kind of control type of business goes into that particular location. [1:07:13, 1:07:19]: you know, we don't want to s sell it and see another office building placed in the downtown. [1:07:19, 1:07:21]: We're looking for restaurant or retail. [1:07:22, 1:07:23]: So um [1:07:23, 1:07:28]: I think that that building is going to be we would like to see that building be a partnership between [1:07:29, 1:07:34]: the main street program and the D DA and you know, iron out all of those details. And that's something [1:07:34, 1:07:37]: That would be the one of the number one um [1:07:38, 1:07:40]: Topics for our joint retreat. [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: Okay. So there is there an after repair value? [1:07:46, 1:07:51]: For the one fourteen y you Main Street is thinking we will lease it, not sell it. [1:07:51, 1:07:54]: That's the ultimate goal right now. Do you know? [1:07:55, 1:08:00]: That that would be my recommendation. Again, that's something that, you know, we can tackle at the retreat. [1:08:00, 1:08:09]: and be able to, you know, d discuss it full scale. But it would be my recommendation to lease the building um and see um [1:08:09, 1:08:14]: what long term tenant we might be able to find, whether it's a restaurant or retail. [1:08:14, 1:08:18]: And then maybe go into discussions about, you know, the cell of the building. But [1:08:18, 1:08:21]: I would prefer to see it a leased space. [1:08:21, 1:08:27]: So that we can make sure that we get the the proper mix of retail and restaurant in the downtown area. [1:08:30, 1:08:31]: Okay, thank you. [1:08:33, 1:08:36]: Mm-hmm. Now did you ask me about cost or [1:08:36, 1:08:38]: Did I hear you incorrectly? [1:08:39, 1:08:45]: You did ask about cost. Well, I did ask about cost. Well in fact, uh well there was a question about cost. [1:08:45, 1:08:53]: Actually, the question was, is there an um after repair value for one fourteen where they're gonna lease and sell it? But I the cost in regards to that. [1:08:54, 1:09:07]: Is it come what budget is it coming from? Is it coming from Main Street or is it something that the DDA can help with? I'm just just curious that where the funds are coming, which listen, I think it's an excellent idea. I want it. [1:09:07, 1:09:17]: I think we should have done it a lot a while ago. Um right. Um and I I really, you know, I met about this last year. Well, yeah, it was in 2020. [1:09:18, 1:09:18]: Um [1:09:19, 1:09:23]: But I'm glad to see something happening. I'm I'm really excited about that. And I think we can get [1:09:24, 1:09:30]: some pretty good tenants in there considering we have the amphitheater. So is it something that we need to ask for in a budget? [1:09:31, 1:09:33]: Or is it already budgeted for? [1:09:34, 1:09:40]: Um this is something that uh that we'll be talking about at a meeting that we have scheduled on Thursday. [1:09:40, 1:09:45]: Um I uh and uh Mr. Peterson might want to also um [1:09:45, 1:09:46]: Chime in on this, but [1:09:47, 1:09:51]: We're going to probably be going coming forward to the city council. [1:09:52, 1:09:54]: Um once the actual um [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: funding source has been um pinpointed. There are [1:09:58, 1:09:58]: Um [1:09:59, 1:10:11]: two funding sources and one of those being um a splash funded project. So uh we'll be coming to the city council um pretty soon with um a recommendation [1:10:11, 1:10:15]: or rather a proposal with regard to funding this particular um project. [1:10:17, 1:10:18]: Thank you. [1:10:19, 1:10:20]: Okay. [1:10:25, 1:10:27]: Mr. Peterson, anything to add to that? [1:10:29, 1:10:34]: All right. And Mr. Sears, it looks like you were trying to come on. Did you have a comment or question? [1:10:40, 1:10:46]: Yeah, I'm not hearing you and you're still on mute. Um anyone else? Any um comments or questions for um [1:10:47, 1:10:48]: The uh May Street update. [1:10:51, 1:10:57]: Uh there is a comment from the chat. We don't usually monitor this, but I have it over here so uh the [1:10:57, 1:11:00]: Question is asked, is the city looking to purchase [1:11:00, 1:11:04]: Raw land to develop for housing or commercial buildings. [1:11:05, 1:11:09]: I think that's a little out of scope for the the topic we were just covering. [1:11:09, 1:11:15]: Um I uh ki uh Council McGann is did do you wanna take that question? [1:11:17, 1:11:28]: Well, anything dealing with personnel, litigation, and real estate is personal and confidential, and we discussed that in executive session. Um [1:11:28, 1:11:33]: But and that [1:11:34, 1:11:44]: my answer to that. I can't really discuss it and we haven't really been talking of that nature right now. So I I wish I could, but I can't. [1:11:45, 1:11:45]: Right. [1:11:46, 1:11:47]: Thank you. [1:11:48, 1:12:05]: All right, uh we'll move on to the next item on the agenda. So there's no it it I I will say there's um not much more we well let me just move on to the uh new business. There was no new business, although there is an item I wanna bring to the board that came up today. Um [1:12:06, 1:12:26]: Under old business, it's really just the purchase, uh, the pending and purchases sale agreement. It was signed uh January 31st. I think it's still being circulated for signature. Uh, I have confirmed with um city manager Mr. Knighton that we are still working with Mr. Mike Williams. Um uh Mr. Williams also gave [1:12:26, 1:12:39]: gave us the name of the attorney that would be representing the buyer. So that's as far as we know, it's still in motion, but we do not yet have a closing date for the transaction. [1:12:39, 1:12:50]: Um and as far as the second item on the agenda, the review of JLL and TSW, that's the I those are the items that I mentioned earlier in my meeting with Mr. McRae that he will be reviewing those two contracts. [1:12:51, 1:12:51]: Any [1:12:52, 1:12:54]: Questions or comments on those two updates? [1:12:56, 1:12:56]: Sure if [1:12:57, 1:13:01]: You s um Roger, you said that it was still being routed for signature. Is this signature [1:13:03, 1:13:04]: By city officials. [1:13:05, 1:13:10]: Um I've signed it, Mr. Schweigert signed it, so I think the DDA has [1:13:10, 1:13:27]: satisfied, you know, the signatures as far as the uh purchase and sale agreement. I I wasn't even aware that there was anything else pending but um till Mr till Bob mentioned it to uh today. But I I actually do recall there was a a mention of that in some of the earlier email threads about the [1:13:27, 1:13:28]: uh transaction. But [1:13:29, 1:13:35]: The the part I'm not the part that's pending now and and and and and Ms. McCray has mentioned this. So at this stage it's it's um [1:13:36, 1:13:41]: The buyer has the option for a due diligence. So if they want to inspect the building or do anything, you know, to [1:13:41, 1:13:42]: Mm-hmm. [1:13:43, 1:13:55]: you know, check, do their due diligence before they're ready to close. This is the period in which they have that option. And I think there is a 60-day period from the time it is signed, which I mark as January 31st. [1:13:55, 1:14:14]: Um, I don't know if that got delayed because you know Bob's signature may have been a little bit later. Uh, but in any case, it's six I it's at the earliest would be 60 days from January 31st to 2023. We have to complete the transaction. Now, of course, the parties can agree to delay that if needed, but right now that's the [1:14:15, 1:14:16]: That's the going assumption. [1:14:18, 1:14:20]: So um can anyone [1:14:21, 1:14:23]: Mr. Peterson or uh Councilwoman Gantt. [1:14:23, 1:14:24]: Can you all [1:14:24, 1:14:35]: add some wisdom in terms of where things are right now. Has it been completely signed? I are we within the due diligence period? And is it and is that as of January thirty first or some date after that? [1:14:40, 1:14:49]: I can consider that. I'm not certain I would have to get an update on that. And I what I'll go ahead and make note and ask Mr. Nine to give me an update so I can forward it to you all. [1:14:50, 1:14:51]: Okay. Thank you. [1:14:51, 1:14:54]: I see Miss Holiday was trying to be recognized. [1:14:55, 1:15:05]: Uh the clerk's office does have a fully executed copy. I believe it is as was stated, Mr. Sylvain is in the sixty day. [1:15:05, 1:15:11]: area where he will determine and then I think a date will be set after that expires. [1:15:13, 1:15:14]: Or before then. [1:15:15, 1:15:18]: Right. Thank you. Yeah, so yeah, Roger, so I just wanted some clarification'cause it [1:15:18, 1:15:26]: It was my understanding that everything had been signed and that, you know, nothing else was being routed per se, but that it was the sixty day [1:15:26, 1:15:28]: Uh due diligence period. [1:15:28, 1:15:31]: Thank you. Sorry if I caused any confusion with that. No, that's right. [1:15:32, 1:15:36]: All right, any other comments um regarding any of the updates? [1:15:39, 1:15:45]: Right. Um I'll open it up for general discussion. I do have an item, but uh does anyone else have anything they want to bring to the board? [1:15:49, 1:15:51]: Yes, I motion that we [1:15:52, 1:15:54]: have business cards created for [1:15:54, 1:15:55]: The DDA members. [1:15:56, 1:15:57]: Mm-hmm. [1:15:58, 1:16:02]: So we have a motion on the table for business cards uh printed for the DDA. [1:16:02, 1:16:03]: I second. [1:16:04, 1:16:06]: That was Councilwoman Gantt. [1:16:06, 1:16:08]: Yes, we've had some in the past. [1:16:08, 1:16:10]: Thank you. [1:16:11, 1:16:13]: All right, any further discussion? [1:16:14, 1:16:15]: Uh yeah, I just um [1:16:17, 1:16:18]: Uh go ahead, Barber. [1:16:19, 1:16:22]: Okay. Um just as far as contact information. [1:16:23, 1:16:24]: What would be listed? [1:16:28, 1:16:33]: I would say definitely um DA email address. [1:16:35, 1:16:36]: Okay. So not our personal phones. [1:16:39, 1:16:42]: No. I I w well I wouldn't recommend that. What do you all think? [1:16:43, 1:16:46]: No, yeah, that was gonna be my concern. I'm on board with that. [1:16:48, 1:16:49]: Probably just your email. [1:16:51, 1:16:51]: Sounds good. [1:16:52, 1:16:52]: I agree. [1:16:55, 1:16:56]: All right. [1:16:57, 1:17:17]: I I I would I guess just to add to that point, I would be fine with, you know, I'm using my personal self or DDA business. I'd be fine with listing my phone number for that purpose. If I'm handing someone my business card, I'd want them or you know, I'd want them to be able to reach me by phone. But I would say if anything, maybe we could leave that up to each individual. [1:17:17, 1:17:20]: to decide what they want on there, you know. [1:17:21, 1:17:25]: Uh but uh I'm in favor of it as far as uh business cards in general. [1:17:28, 1:17:30]: Now definitely we have a question in terms of [1:17:32, 1:17:34]: Is it going to be that logo that for the D DA? [1:17:34, 1:17:36]: Would this go through the sea? [1:17:36, 1:17:40]: Or something that we would do outside of the city. How was it done b previously? [1:17:41, 1:17:42]: Anyone know? [1:17:45, 1:17:49]: Well, you you bring up an interesting point and maybe want to speak to this [1:17:49, 1:17:50]: I'll try to do that. [1:17:51, 1:18:11]: Rap, thank you. Go ahead, can go ahead, Council McKay. All right, thank you. The DDA in the past had a website. Well, I don't know if it was a website, but they definitely had a Facebook page that we never took control over. I believe we reached out to that individual and we have to go back and look at the minutes for that. Um, we also [1:18:11, 1:18:12]: Also have a logo. [1:18:13, 1:18:15]: Um and [1:18:15, 1:18:15]: Um [1:18:16, 1:18:21]: You know, I think that we could still use that logo unless you wanted to change it. Um [1:18:22, 1:18:22]: But [1:18:23, 1:18:40]: That's as much as we have with that. We really didn't get back in contact with those particular people. I believe that the old the first DDA established that. Um and Mr. JC Williams knew the person who set everything up. [1:18:40, 1:18:41]: So [1:18:42, 1:18:50]: That's where we are. And and we can go back and try to reach back out to that individual so that we can take control over our social media as well as. [1:18:51, 1:18:58]: determine whether or not we want to keep that logo. But the logo belongs to the city. I mean to this to the DDA as well as any other [1:18:59, 1:19:03]: because it was paid with DDA funds. So it all belongs to the DDA. [1:19:03, 1:19:06]: It's just we we haven't had the access of it. [1:19:09, 1:19:14]: Well, thank you. Uh the point I was gonna add about the logo is um, you know, and I've been [1:19:14, 1:19:15]: Kind of [1:19:15, 1:19:22]: holding on some things that are not as high a priority for these meetings just in the interest of time, but [1:19:22, 1:19:35]: I'm I'm not a big fan of the logo. It doesn't really represent Stockbridge or you know the type of uh city that we are. It's just uh weird sort of corporate logo. It looks like it got for something from you know clipart. [1:19:35, 1:19:43]: Um, so I'd be more interested in having a logo or an image that aligns with the city's logo. [1:19:43, 1:19:51]: Um, you know, where community connects and maybe some version of that that incorporates the DDA to show the partnership between the city and the DDA. [1:19:51, 1:20:11]: And so that could be a stalling, not to stall it, but that could be a point to consider before we go and have prison business cards printed is maybe then we need to accelerate the idea of maybe updating the DDA logo so that you know it's more unified. That's that's my point on that. But as far as business cards in general, I'm I'm I think it's a good idea. [1:20:14, 1:20:14]: Sure. [1:20:15, 1:20:16]: Other discussion? [1:20:17, 1:20:19]: That sound uh that sounds I understand, but [1:20:19, 1:20:21]: How you why you would say that. Um I'm open to [1:20:21, 1:20:23]: Looking at a a new logo. [1:20:23, 1:20:24]: Um, you know, that [1:20:25, 1:20:27]: Incorporates all those things that you mentioned. [1:20:27, 1:20:29]: Absolutely correct part of this process. [1:20:29, 1:20:37]: Any other discussion? We have a we have a motion for uh business cards for the DDA and it was seconded. Um any other discussion? [1:20:39, 1:20:45]: All right, we'll go ahead and uh move to a vote. So all those in favor, show your hands or Barber if you'll say yes. [1:20:46, 1:20:47]: Yes. [1:20:47, 1:20:48]: All right. [1:20:49, 1:20:52]: And it looks to be unanimous. All right, great. Thank you, everyone. [1:20:53, 1:20:55]: Um any other general discussion or anything for the board? [1:20:56, 1:20:57]: and there's connectivity. [1:20:59, 1:21:19]: Um the item I wanted to bring up was I would just send it via email today and it's just the directors and officers insurance uh is come coming due in April. I would just like the board's review of the policy just to uh see if there's any interest in changing the terms of the policy. [1:21:19, 1:21:28]: I would say that to move forward with renewing the policy as it was last year, but I wanted to give you all the opportunity to uh chime in on that if you felt that we needed to. [1:21:28, 1:21:48]: um add any coverage or possibly remove any coverage compared to what we had last year. So please take a look at your email and see if there's any interest in making any edits. But we do we do need to move on that fairly quickly. So if you can let me know say by next week. If I don't hear from anyone, then we will move forward with renewing the policy [1:21:48, 1:22:01]: policy as it was last year. Touched on a little bit of my uh question. Yes. Hey, do you know um when we got the policy kind of was it just something we went online and and [1:22:01, 1:22:10]: in order or was there like an insurance broker or someone who walked us through'cause I'm not I can read it, but I don't know that I have the knowledge yet to determine if [1:22:11, 1:22:13]: the language really [1:22:13, 1:22:13]: Covers [1:22:14, 1:22:16]: Adequately, you know what I mean? [1:22:16, 1:22:17]: Right. [1:22:17, 1:22:32]: I I don't know. Uh I know that since I have joined the DDA, which was uh probably it's been this will be my third or fourth year that I've been involved in renewing the policy. It was just a renewal of the previous year's policy. So I'm not sure. [1:22:32, 1:22:34]: when it was ever um [1:22:35, 1:22:53]: You know, like whether we went through a broker, if we had a consultant that kind of helped us, well, you need to have this or you don't need to have that. I d that I don't know. If you would like them and if so you think maybe it might be a good opportunity to re revisit that? I mean, kinda like those homeowners who have insurance policy and don't realize that they don't have flood insurance, you know? [1:22:54, 1:22:55]: I just [1:22:55, 1:23:02]: Um well you I don't know. Just the point of discussion, if if it hasn't been reviewed, um [1:23:03, 1:23:09]: by anyone who really has the the you know, the bandwidth to really know what what needs to be in that policy. [1:23:10, 1:23:10]: Right. [1:23:10, 1:23:11]: Um [1:23:11, 1:23:31]: I'm I'm I'm open to that and and I think it's it's it's it's never a bad idea to especially with insurance, it can be a high ticket item, although this one I think it's somewhere in the fifteen hundred dollar uh amount for the for for all the for the entire policy for all for the entire board. What is it about? Um so it it's it's not a huge cost compared to other insurance. [1:23:31, 1:23:39]: terms. So I'm I'm open to that. I'm just not sure who to go to who would provide expertise on something like that. [1:23:40, 1:23:40]: Yeah. [1:23:42, 1:24:02]: Uh let me ask uh Mr. Peterson. I know we lean on you a lot. Do you have any uh experience with um who might be able to review the insurance policy or whether the because I'm sure the city has a similar policy for you know other maybe some of the other boards that are operated by the city. [1:24:02, 1:24:04]: I would I would consult the city. [1:24:04, 1:24:05]: Yeah. Um [1:24:06, 1:24:09]: first and uh see what they have to say about it. [1:24:09, 1:24:13]: And if not, then we can go outside, but this we could lean on the city for that. [1:24:14, 1:24:15]: And um [1:24:15, 1:24:18]: Check with um Tony McCray as well. [1:24:18, 1:24:20]: Oh, first chip with the city. [1:24:20, 1:24:40]: All right, then I'll forward to you, Mr. Peterson, what I sent to the board today. And I'll also forward it to Mr. McRae and just ask his opinion as to you know what are the key elements that we should consider or you know policy. Thank thanks a lot, Roger. Thank you. So that was really the last item I wanted to bring to the board. Um any other uh items uh for the board before [1:24:40, 1:24:41]: before we adjourn. [1:24:44, 1:24:47]: Oh, Roger, one thing that I want to say, I know you mentioned something about um [1:24:48, 1:24:48]: I guess. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: deals that we may have received from council. [1:24:52, 1:24:52]: Um [1:24:54, 1:24:59]: I don't know if that's something we can that can be given in this meeting or if that's considered personnel. I'm not sure. [1:25:00, 1:25:01]: Um [1:25:01, 1:25:04]: But I think that would be great for members to have that information in terms of [1:25:05, 1:25:05]: Um [1:25:06, 1:25:11]: What's been paid out, if we have any outstanding invoices, you know, what we think the total is going to be. [1:25:12, 1:25:13]: You know. [1:25:15, 1:25:35]: Um, I think Barber will have a good uh accounting of that probably by our next meeting once she gets uh fully set up with uh the bank statements and the software that she's um that we've approved in our January meeting. Um as far as the outstanding invoices that are there, they're they're all um [1:25:35, 1:25:55]: There's nothing out of the ordinary. So there's some commemorative plaques that were the outgoing DDA members. There was uh DDA training, I believe for Sumiqua. There was the conference that we all attended for the downtown conference. And then the only one that's to like an outside vendor is the [1:25:55, 1:26:06]: there there's still an outstanding invoice for the master planning from TSW. They sent they sent us a late invoice back in, I don't know, it was like October for work that they did in July. [1:26:07, 1:26:27]: after we had suspended our work with them, but they had put in a few more hours and they're you know they're needing that. So that that's the only thing that's outstanding. But I've been in regular communication with them to let them know we're we're transitioning to a new treasury. It's just it's fine. We're just gonna be around before we we're done. That those expenses are all kind of regular and part of our budget. [1:26:27, 1:26:30]: So it's it I didn't I didn't think it was anything that needed like [1:26:31, 1:26:41]: you know, the board's approval or discussion unless it's something that's artificial. Understand. Yeah, and specifically I was asking about any invoices paying for uh [1:26:41, 1:26:43]: Represent council representation. [1:26:43, 1:26:47]: Oh by council. I got you. No, we haven't received any yet. [1:26:47, 1:26:48]: Okay. [1:26:48, 1:27:00]: Yeah, he just gave me a general number and um and of where they are to date. And he just said that the majority of the hours are were marked for as it relates to the uh purchase and sale agreement. [1:27:02, 1:27:02]: Thank you. Thank you. [1:27:05, 1:27:15]: I mean he did offer to send me an invoice as of where they are now, but we're so I mean, the the closing is within line of sight and I didn't I I didn't think it was really [1:27:15, 1:27:23]: This will be our second round of bulls. Any added value to have an invoice now and then another invoice in a in a month. [1:27:23, 1:27:25]: All right, any other items for discussion? [1:27:26, 1:27:27]: Right. [1:27:28, 1:27:34]: Seeing none or hearing none, so uh take a motion to adjourn if anyone wants to do so. [1:27:36, 1:27:37]: Some moved. [1:27:37, 1:27:39]: All right. Second. [1:27:40, 1:27:40]: Thank you. [1:27:41, 1:27:45]: All right, we have a motion to adjourn in a second. Any other discussion? [1:27:47, 1:27:50]: All right. All those in favor, either say yes or show your hand. [1:27:50, 1:27:51]: Ah. [1:27:51, 1:27:53]: All right. Very good. [1:27:53, 1:28:02]: Thank you everyone. I really appreciate your time and service to the board. Have a good evening. Good night. Thank you.

--- title: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting date: 2021-02-12 source: 2021-02-12_Main_Street_Advisory_Board_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:13, 0:00:14]: Hello. [0:00:17, 0:00:17]: Right. [0:00:21, 0:00:23]: Hello there. How are you? [0:00:24, 0:00:25]: I'm doing fine. [0:00:27, 0:00:27]: Um [0:00:27, 0:00:29]: This morning. [0:00:33, 0:00:37]: So um you got a Jackie Robinson picture in the background. Is that Jackie Robinson? [0:00:38, 0:00:41]: It is actually um a Negro league, um [0:00:42, 0:00:43]: Oh, Southern League. [0:00:44, 0:00:44]: No soy money. [0:00:45, 0:00:49]: All of them, um, there's somebody picture from each one of the team. [0:00:50, 0:00:52]: Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. [0:00:58, 0:00:59]: So how was your trip? [0:01:00, 0:01:01]: My trip. [0:01:02, 0:01:02]: Yeah. [0:01:04, 0:01:04]: Where was I going? [0:01:05, 0:01:07]: Oh, I thought you went out of town this past weekend. [0:01:08, 0:01:11]: Oh no, no, no. I I was recovering from COVID. [0:01:12, 0:01:15]: So I got out I got out of quarantine Saturday. [0:01:15, 0:01:16]: So [0:01:16, 0:01:23]: I remember there was a birthday party that they were wanting you to go to. Right, right. Well I had to I couldn't go to that'cause um [0:01:24, 0:01:25]: I couldn't risk it. [0:01:25, 0:01:27]: My so I missed my grandson's birthday. [0:01:28, 0:01:30]: There was like almost thirty people there, so [0:01:31, 0:01:36]: It was like that was the day that I was coming out of quarantine. Mm-hmm. So [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: You know. [0:01:37, 0:01:41]: So we're gonna I'm gonna celebrate with him and my son's uh [0:01:41, 0:01:43]: Mm-hmm. [0:01:44, 0:01:47]: Well, you'll be able to celebrate at a later time. [0:01:47, 0:01:50]: We say we're saying later and greater. [0:01:50, 0:01:52]: Later and greater. [0:01:52, 0:01:57]: Mm-hmm. Kids um you know, one or two days or a week is eternity, you know. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Yeah. [0:01:58, 0:01:59]: Um [0:02:00, 0:02:03]: So, you know, his school is not even [0:02:03, 0:02:04]: Mm. [0:02:05, 0:02:12]: partial that they keep changing it, so there's no consistency, you know. Yeah. But same thing with my um daughter school. [0:02:13, 0:02:15]: But it's seeming that they're um [0:02:16, 0:02:17]: Go into [0:02:18, 0:02:21]: Um, stay vir well, my daughter is staying virtual. [0:02:21, 0:02:23]: Um th for the rest of the year. [0:02:24, 0:02:25]: Is she old enough to [0:02:26, 0:02:26]: By herself. [0:02:27, 0:02:31]: Or you I mean, is she old enough to be by herself or uh Yeah, she's in high school. [0:02:32, 0:02:32]: Oh, okay. [0:02:32, 0:02:33]: Yeah. [0:02:34, 0:02:38]: Um my sister has a kindergartner though and it's wearing her out. [0:02:40, 0:02:40]: Yeah. [0:02:40, 0:02:42]: Wearing her out totally. [0:02:44, 0:02:46]: Yeah, I don't know, it's tough. [0:02:47, 0:02:49]: Hello, how are you? Good morning. [0:02:50, 0:02:51]: More than [0:02:51, 0:02:55]: I um I'm just gonna close my screen while I [0:02:55, 0:03:00]: continue to get my materials ready and join everybody when the meeting starts. [0:03:00, 0:03:02]: Okay, that's fine. Thanks. [0:03:08, 0:03:09]: Okay. [0:03:10, 0:03:11]: Can you hear me? [0:03:11, 0:03:13]: Yes, I can hear you, Mildred. Good morning. [0:03:14, 0:03:17]: I wonder why I'm not being seen. I wonder why you're not seeing the video. [0:03:18, 0:03:22]: Um, it looks like your camera might be closed. [0:03:22, 0:03:23]: No but [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: Thank you, thank you, thank you. [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: It was. [0:03:28, 0:03:30]: I wasn't he paying attention to that. [0:03:30, 0:03:32]: I forget about it because it's sorta new. [0:03:33, 0:03:37]: Yeah. Good morning, good morning, everyone else. Good morning. [0:03:37, 0:03:39]: Here comes Willie, I think. [0:03:40, 0:03:41]: Yeah. [0:03:43, 0:03:50]: Good morning, Willie. Good morning. Good morning. How's everybody doing? I'm okay. Good, good. Good morning, Mr. Knighton. [0:03:51, 0:03:55]: Hello everyone, how are you? Good. [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: I know that um [0:04:10, 0:04:13]: Barber said she might be running a little bit late. [0:04:24, 0:04:26]: Here comes Anika. [0:04:28, 0:04:29]: Hey Annika! [0:04:30, 0:04:33]: Good morning. Good morning. How are you? [0:04:33, 0:04:37]: Great, how are you guys? We're doing great. [0:04:39, 0:04:39]: Yeah. [0:04:47, 0:04:49]: Doing great. [0:05:00, 0:05:04]: We need just two more people so that we can have a quorum here. [0:05:12, 0:05:14]: And we'll be ready to go. [0:05:18, 0:05:21]: It's so cloudy and gray today. Ugh. [0:05:22, 0:05:23]: Um [0:05:23, 0:05:25]: My husband is in [0:05:26, 0:05:27]: Tallahassee. [0:05:28, 0:05:31]: Right now, and he said that it's seventy eight degrees there. [0:05:32, 0:05:33]: Oh wow. [0:05:34, 0:05:40]: But we need guys like this too. I know they're not the best, but they're just funny ones. [0:05:40, 0:05:42]: Always need the rain. [0:05:59, 0:06:08]: Anika Barber said that she um had an emergency this morning at work, but she will try to log on, but she said she'd be late. [0:06:09, 0:06:10]: Okay. [0:06:11, 0:06:12]: We will note that. [0:06:12, 0:06:17]: Okay. And I'm at work as well. I'm trying to pull it up on my computer so I can see better. [0:06:17, 0:06:22]: Um, but I'm on my phone so I apologize for if the sound isn't great. [0:06:22, 0:06:24]: No, that's okay. I can hear you fine. [0:06:25, 0:06:25]: Yeah. [0:06:29, 0:06:37]: Um, I guess we can give it to nine oh five and then we'll begin. Is that fair? Um Mr. Thomas just came on, so we just need one more person. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: Okay. [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Good morning. [0:06:40, 0:06:42]: Good morning, how are you? [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Doing well, a little tired, but you know. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: As always. [0:06:49, 0:06:52]: Do you have a big day yesterday or a big week? [0:06:52, 0:06:56]: Uh a it's it's it's always something in the trenches, so [0:06:56, 0:07:01]: Yeah, always. Sometimes you had to come out of the trenches and try to get some rest. [0:07:02, 0:07:10]: That's true. You had we were talking about self-care um with an organization that I belonged to, Jack and Jill. [0:07:10, 0:07:13]: We had a whole session on self care. [0:07:14, 0:07:18]: Yeah, you can't take yourself out. Uh especially especially uh [0:07:18, 0:07:20]: During these times. Yeah. [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: Every single [0:07:26, 0:07:30]: Oh, I'm sorry. What were you saying, Mr. Tony? I'm just gonna say I I I um [0:07:30, 0:07:33]: Took my uh my shot, so [0:07:33, 0:07:35]: I'm glad of that. So I'm trying to [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: Trying to protect myself as much as possible. [0:07:38, 0:07:45]: Well that's good. Um my father, um, who's a veteran, he was able to get his shot [0:07:45, 0:07:53]: But my mother is on a waiting list. She's actually on three different waiting lists. She's a retired teacher, so [0:07:53, 0:08:03]: They have one list for um they're in Maryland and she does substitute teaching. So the teachers are getting vaccinated there. So they have the substitutes on a [0:08:03, 0:08:04]: waiting list they're gonna [0:08:05, 0:08:08]: Um, vaccinate all of the full time teachers, then substitutes. [0:08:09, 0:08:10]: And um [0:08:11, 0:08:14]: So she's on that waiting list and a couple other ones. [0:08:15, 0:08:18]: So I'm just hoping that she'll get um taken off soon. [0:08:19, 0:08:22]: Yeah. Here I um I'm sorry. [0:08:22, 0:08:25]: Now I'm just gonna say I I hope it did hope this is the answer. [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: I do too. [0:08:29, 0:08:32]: Okay, Linda is saying that her [0:08:36, 0:08:38]: Shut mail. Let me see if I can. [0:08:39, 0:08:50]: try to i just want to share while you're doing that that um cvs and walgreens nationally have just um made available the vaccine to um [0:08:50, 0:08:52]: older adults and um [0:08:53, 0:08:59]: The rollout was literally yesterday. So availability is a little easier. I don't know if you want to share that with your family. [0:08:59, 0:09:02]: Yeah, okay. That's Walgreens everywhere. [0:09:03, 0:09:03]: Yes. [0:09:04, 0:09:05]: No C V S. [0:09:06, 0:09:06]: For sure. [0:09:07, 0:09:09]: All right, I will um [0:09:10, 0:09:14]: Tell my mom that. Let me see if I can send this to Linda. [0:09:15, 0:09:15]: Oh. [0:09:23, 0:09:24]: Mm. [0:09:42, 0:09:45]: Check spam. [0:09:46, 0:09:47]: And [0:09:48, 0:09:50]: Telling her to check her spam and junk. [0:09:58, 0:09:59]: Mm-hmm. [0:10:00, 0:10:03]: Hopefully she'll be able to come in. [0:10:04, 0:10:09]: Okay. Okay. And would Linda then make a quorum or we still wouldn't need additional [0:10:10, 0:10:16]: Members need to be able to do it. So she would make a quorum or um Greg or if some um Barber or Pam comes in. [0:10:17, 0:10:21]: then we have a quorum, but I mean we can go on and get started if you want. [0:10:21, 0:10:25]: And it'll just be, you know, for information purposes until [0:10:25, 0:10:30]: Um we get a quorum to actually vote on everything. [0:10:30, 0:10:33]: Okay. Hi Alan. How are you? [0:10:36, 0:10:38]: Well, how's everyone doing this morning? [0:10:38, 0:10:40]: Morning. Good. [0:10:45, 0:10:56]: All right. Well with that, everyone, I think we should go ahead and begin our um February Main Street Advisory Board meeting um on today, February the twelfth. [0:10:57, 0:11:08]: Um calling the meetings order at 906. Firstly, happy Friday, happy last weekday before weekend of love. So make sure you love on all of your [0:11:08, 0:11:27]: family and um friends from the little bitty ones to medium ones all the way on up make sure that you short you short you share your love with them um so with that welcome um to our guests and um i see mr nighton is on the call as well welcome to the call sir um and to mr uh [0:11:28, 0:11:28]: Alan? [0:11:29, 0:11:49]: Welcome as well. All right. So we're going to uh begin with a quick roll call to see who is present. Um if you are on mute when your name is called, if you can please come off mute and just acknowledge if you are present. If you're unable to come off mute, please indicate in the chat that you are present. Um I do see that's uh Ms. [0:11:49, 0:11:55]: Horton has noted that he is present in the chat. So um when we get to his name, we will acknowledge his presence. [0:11:55, 0:12:00]: Um so we will go um and do our roll call for today. Um [0:12:00, 0:12:01]: Mr. Shamari Firch. [0:12:05, 0:12:06]: Shimari Firch. [0:12:09, 0:12:11]: Willie Hopkins. [0:12:11, 0:12:12]: President. [0:12:13, 0:12:14]: Thank you, sir. [0:12:14, 0:12:18]: Mr. Greg Horton has acknowledged his presence via the Zoom chat. [0:12:20, 0:12:22]: Miss Linda Jones. [0:12:23, 0:12:24]: Is it [0:12:24, 0:12:30]: She's there, she's on a um see where my name is um showing down at the bottom of the screen. [0:12:32, 0:12:37]: I did hear her voice say present. Yeah, that's actually Linda. She's on an um [0:12:37, 0:12:40]: A different um login. But that's her. [0:12:41, 0:12:42]: All right. [0:12:42, 0:12:44]: Thank you, Mr. [0:12:46, 0:12:51]: Anika Potts, I am she, I am present. Miss Mildred Reed? Here, present. [0:12:51, 0:12:52]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:12:53, 0:12:54]: Uh Barber Richardson. [0:12:56, 0:12:57]: Barber Richardson. [0:12:57, 0:13:09]: It was brought to our attention that she is planning to attend but is uh perhaps running late, so we we may be able to circle back to her as the meeting progresses. Ms. Pamela Sanders. [0:13:12, 0:13:13]: Pamela Sanders. [0:13:16, 0:13:19]: And Councilman Alfonso Thomas. [0:13:20, 0:13:20]: President. [0:13:21, 0:13:21]: Thank you, sir. [0:13:22, 0:13:35]: All right, we do have a quorum and we can continue with our meeting. And if we need to make decisions, we are able to. So thank you all. Um, can we please get a volunteer to read our mission statement this morning? [0:13:38, 0:13:40]: Madam Chair, I'll read the mission statement. [0:13:41, 0:13:43]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:13:43, 0:13:45]: The Stockbridge Main Street program's mission. [0:13:46, 0:13:48]: Is to design and support. [0:13:48, 0:13:50]: An identifiable downtown historical district. [0:13:51, 0:13:53]: That promotes economic vitality. [0:13:53, 0:13:59]: cultivates artistic expressions, encourages culture enrichment, and nurtures community spirit. [0:14:00, 0:14:05]: Thank you so very much. That is who we are and that's our mission. We're gonna stay on mission. Uh [0:14:05, 0:14:06]: Long term. [0:14:07, 0:14:17]: Uh we're gonna move on with our agenda to our second item, which is to review and approve the agenda for today, February uh 2021. [0:14:17, 0:14:37]: Um, you all should have received our meeting information, agenda, uh, last meeting, as well as financials uh via email prior to this meeting. Uh so if you could take a moment and review that and let us know if you have any questions, concerns, or there's a need uh for discussion. If not. [0:14:37, 0:14:45]: Uh we would love to have a motion to approve the agenda as presented. Yes, Ms. Reed? Sure. Uh I move that we uh [0:14:46, 0:14:48]: Accepted agenda as written. [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:14:52, 0:14:53]: There are a second. [0:14:53, 0:14:54]: A second. [0:14:56, 0:14:57]: Thank you, sir. [0:14:59, 0:15:15]: All right. We will function with um voting on motions the same as we did attendance. So we will move through uh with those that we know are present to see if they are in favor or opposing the motion to accept the agenda as written. Um Mr. Hopkins. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: Crew. [0:15:17, 0:15:19]: Thank you. Mr. Hortson. [0:15:22, 0:15:25]: He has stated yes in the chat. Um, Miss Jones. [0:15:31, 0:15:32]: Miss Jones? [0:15:35, 0:15:40]: Okay, we will move on to Ms. Potts. I uh approve. [0:15:40, 0:15:41]: Miss Reed. [0:15:42, 0:15:43]: Approved. [0:15:43, 0:15:46]: Thank you. Yes, Miss Wendell says yes. [0:15:46, 0:15:47]: Thank you. [0:15:48, 0:15:50]: Miss Linda. No, you're fine. [0:15:50, 0:15:52]: And Mr. Thom Thomas. [0:15:52, 0:15:53]: Approved. [0:15:53, 0:16:06]: Thank you, sir. Um the agenda will stand as written, um unanimous by all members. Um I did want to acknowledge that I see that there is a uh a guess. [0:16:06, 0:16:13]: that we did not um acknowledge when we were doing the roll call mr john christian so hello mr christian [0:16:13, 0:16:14]: Hi. [0:16:14, 0:16:17]: Thank you, sir, for joining us today. [0:16:17, 0:16:37]: Um so we will now move on to our third agenda item, which is to review and approve our meeting minutes from our January 2021 meeting. Again, this information was sent prior to the meeting. So if we need to discuss anything regarding it, let's do so. If not, [0:16:37, 0:16:46]: Um we'll give just a moment to look at it. Um, and we would love for a motion to approve it if all is in order. [0:16:52, 0:16:54]: I do have a question. [0:16:54, 0:17:01]: For Miss Glax and for um Miss Lisa. Were you present at our January meeting, Lisa? [0:17:04, 0:17:05]: You're muted. [0:17:08, 0:17:09]: Good morning, everybody. [0:17:10, 0:17:19]: Um no, you guys probably missed me last week. I was out. I had a scheduled appointment out of the office that day, so I was not present. [0:17:20, 0:17:22]: Okay, that's what I thought. Um [0:17:23, 0:17:38]: Ms. Reed, can we um have the um minutes to reflect that Miss Lisa Harad Mohammed was um not present for our January meeting? Presently it shows she was in attendance. Yes. Yes. [0:17:39, 0:17:40]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:17:48, 0:17:55]: Okay. Any other discussion concerns or um needs for revision note observed? [0:17:58, 0:18:00]: Okay, hearing none. [0:18:01, 0:18:05]: Can we have a motion to accept the um [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: Agenda. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: Minutes. With the noted question. [0:18:08, 0:18:10]: Minutes, I'm sorry, with the note of correction. [0:18:13, 0:18:13]: Mm. Madam Chair. [0:18:15, 0:18:15]: Yes, sir. [0:18:16, 0:18:27]: I rise to uh move that we accept the January eighth, two thousand twenty-one meetings with the necessary corrections in place in the archives of the board meeting for the history of this board. [0:18:28, 0:18:28]: Thank you, sir. [0:18:30, 0:18:31]: We have a second. [0:18:31, 0:18:32]: Happens. [0:18:34, 0:18:35]: A second [0:18:36, 0:18:38]: Thank you, Mr. Thomas. [0:18:38, 0:18:47]: All right, we will now see if we are in favor or opposing this um same as we have previously. Um, Mr. Hopkins. [0:18:48, 0:18:49]: Approve. [0:18:49, 0:18:54]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Horton has stated yes, he approves the minutes. [0:18:55, 0:18:56]: Miss Jones. [0:18:56, 0:18:57]: Approved. [0:18:58, 0:19:02]: Thank you, ma'am. Miss Potts, yes. Miss Reed? Yes. [0:19:03, 0:19:04]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:19:06, 0:19:07]: Mr. Thomas. [0:19:07, 0:19:08]: Yes. [0:19:09, 0:19:10]: Thank you, sir. [0:19:10, 0:19:30]: Uh the uh minutes will um stand as noted with the correction for our archives and records. Um final area or um agenda item that requires our review and final approval is our financial statement from January 2021. [0:19:30, 0:19:34]: Um let's bring our attention to that quickly and um [0:19:34, 0:19:40]: See if there's any discussion and if not, uh we would love for a motion to accept them as written. [0:19:42, 0:19:44]: That's there. [0:19:44, 0:19:45]: Yes, ma'am. [0:19:45, 0:19:52]: Um, I was just going to um bring everyone's attention to the um original total budget column. [0:19:52, 0:19:55]: Um on this income statement. [0:19:55, 0:20:02]: I just wanted to note for everyone that that is the budget that has been approved for. [0:20:02, 0:20:07]: the Main Street program for the um FY twenty twenty one. [0:20:07, 0:20:09]: Um calendar year. [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: Or fiscal year rather. [0:20:12, 0:20:14]: So that is the um [0:20:14, 0:20:19]: column that lists the funds that we will be working with for the remainder of the year. [0:20:22, 0:20:23]: Right. [0:20:26, 0:20:31]: Any questions, concerns, discussion regarding this um new budget? [0:20:39, 0:20:42]: Very little usage, yay. [0:20:43, 0:20:50]: All right. Uh if we do not have any discussion concerns regarding it, can we please have a motion to approve it as presented? [0:20:51, 0:20:51]: Madam Chair. [0:20:52, 0:20:53]: Yes, this support. [0:20:53, 0:20:54]: Mr. Hopkins. [0:20:55, 0:21:02]: Uh that's okay. Me and Grid look alike, so that's my brother from the brother. I know I do this. I don't know why. [0:21:03, 0:21:13]: Uh madam chair, I move that we accept the financial statement ending in January 31st, 2021 and placed in the uh archives for future auditing purposes. [0:21:14, 0:21:17]: Thank you, sir. Do we have a second? [0:21:19, 0:21:21]: I'll second the motion. [0:21:22, 0:21:23]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [0:21:24, 0:21:28]: Okay, we will now take it to a vote. Mr. Ho Mr. Hopkins. [0:21:28, 0:21:28]: Great. [0:21:29, 0:21:33]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Horton approves the financial statement per Zoom. [0:21:34, 0:21:35]: Miss Jones. [0:21:37, 0:21:40]: Thank you, ma'am. Miss Pottshi approved. [0:21:40, 0:21:41]: Miss Reed. [0:21:42, 0:21:42]: Because [0:21:43, 0:21:44]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:21:44, 0:21:45]: And Mr. Thomas. [0:21:46, 0:21:46]: Approved. [0:21:47, 0:21:47]: Thank you. [0:21:48, 0:21:51]: For uh purposes this moves and the uh [0:21:51, 0:21:54]: Budget is approved and ready to go. [0:21:54, 0:22:06]: Before we move on to our next agenda item, I did want to circle back to the attendance really quick to see if there's been any change in the remaining members who were originally marked absent. Is Mr. Shamari Firch on the call? [0:22:08, 0:22:10]: The meeting rather, Mr. Birch. [0:22:11, 0:22:12]: Miss Barber Richardson. [0:22:15, 0:22:16]: Barber Richardson. [0:22:17, 0:22:19]: And Pamela Sanders. [0:22:20, 0:22:22]: Pamela Sanders. [0:22:22, 0:22:23]: Okay, thank you. [0:22:23, 0:22:28]: Um we now turn the meeting over to our Main Street manager for her report, Miss Briggs. [0:22:29, 0:22:32]: Thank you, Madam Chair, and good morning to everyone. [0:22:33, 0:22:43]: on this gray day. Hopefully everyone is doing well and staying safe out there. It's great to see everyone in attendance. [0:22:43, 0:22:48]: Um with regard to my report, we just have a a few um [0:22:49, 0:22:54]: pieces of old business and then uh we will move into um [0:22:54, 0:22:58]: our mural project presentation under old business as well. [0:22:59, 0:22:59]: Um [0:23:00, 0:23:16]: First, um, I just wanted to remind everyone that um we have some board member positions available. Um we still need an arts organization representative, and as you all know, uh we now can cast that web out. [0:23:16, 0:23:21]: that net out a little farther into Henry County. So if you know of [0:23:21, 0:23:24]: an an arts organization um [0:23:25, 0:23:31]: representative who would be interested in serving on the Main Street advisory board. [0:23:31, 0:23:35]: Please ask them to apply. The application is available. [0:23:36, 0:23:42]: on the website, the city's website, and it's a fillable form on the website. It has to be done. [0:23:42, 0:23:43]: Um online. [0:23:44, 0:23:57]: We also need a to fill the position for a landscape architect or interior designer. It can be someone in either one of those professions to serve on the board as well. [0:23:58, 0:24:01]: I would like to also announce that we have a new board member. [0:24:01, 0:24:08]: Um, she will be joining us at our next meeting. Her name is Rocio Camacho. [0:24:08, 0:24:14]: And um some of you may be familiar with um Rocio, she was very active. [0:24:14, 0:24:21]: Um a few years ago with the Main Street program and city events when we were staging the [0:24:22, 0:24:27]: Hispanifest celebration here in the city of Stockbridge in conjunction with Bridge Fest. [0:24:28, 0:24:32]: So she was very active and um in the planning of that event. [0:24:33, 0:24:43]: And she also um has been very helpful to the Main Street program with regard to reaching our Hispanic, Latino and um [0:24:44, 0:24:44]: Um [0:24:44, 0:24:50]: Spanish communities here in the Stockbridge area. She um [0:24:50, 0:24:53]: Helped us when we were working on the RSVP program. [0:24:54, 0:25:04]: um in helping us to bring together um a cultural diverse culturally diverse focus group for the RSVP so she has um [0:25:05, 0:25:15]: Thankfully agreed to be a part of our board and she will be um sitting in the position of a main a business outside of the Main Street district. [0:25:15, 0:25:20]: So um I look forward to welcoming her to our next meeting. [0:25:20, 0:25:26]: in March and um hopefully you all will be able to um [0:25:26, 0:25:35]: get an opportunity to talk with her a little bit offline. If you know Rocio, um be sure to congratulate her and welcome her to the board. [0:25:37, 0:25:44]: Okay, and at this point I would like to um introduce to you all again um Mr. John Christian. [0:25:45, 0:25:50]: He is um a mural artist. Um out of he is based out of Hapeville, Georgia. [0:25:51, 0:25:54]: Um, as you know, we received a um [0:25:54, 0:25:58]: Grant from his organization and I'll let him um [0:25:59, 0:26:04]: tell you a little bit about give you just a um recap of his organization. [0:26:04, 0:26:22]: And then we're going to talk a little bit about the mural concepts that I sent to you all. Again, these are concepts. This is not the final work project. This is just something to kind of get our um minds um moving in the same direction and [0:26:22, 0:26:29]: Uh we will be taking your feedback during the presentation. So um, John, I'd like to hand it over to you. [0:26:29, 0:26:31]: Hello, how's everybody doing? [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: Right. [0:26:33, 0:26:53]: Um our organization basically what we do is um we focus on murals and public art um consulting. And uh we we've started off as a mandate as painting 50 murals in 50 cities in five years. Um I'm up to 31 cities, but I've got 43 murals that we've completed uh just in that time frame. [0:26:53, 0:26:58]: Prior to that, you know, I've had art centers and I've had other organizations throughout the years. [0:26:58, 0:27:01]: Uh this particular project um [0:27:02, 0:27:05]: Me and uh Kier has been working on for over a year now. [0:27:05, 0:27:07]: Uh and um [0:27:07, 0:27:13]: Basically, I'm really looking forward to uh doing this and it's something uniquely different and it's saluting [0:27:14, 0:27:24]: So not only the city, but also uh Daddy King is a possibility and and I think that's uh you know, a great opportunity uh an opportunity for myself as well. [0:27:25, 0:27:26]: So um [0:27:26, 0:27:31]: Anyway, um did you want to talk about the designs uh now or [0:27:31, 0:27:51]: Yes, I'm going to just um refresh everyone's memory as to uh where the murals are targeted um to be placed and then um I will share my screen and we can um just quickly look at each design and then um discuss each one. Everyone should have a copy. [0:27:51, 0:27:54]: of the designs in your meeting materials packet. [0:27:55, 0:27:56]: Um [0:27:56, 0:28:05]: And you will be able to kind of make notes on your document, and we will be able to um discuss. [0:28:05, 0:28:18]: The concepts, whether you like them, whether you don't like them, anything that you'd like to add to the concepts, and we'll discuss those possibilities with John. So let me try to share my screen really quick. [0:28:19, 0:28:20]: Please here. [0:28:22, 0:28:22]: Okay. [0:28:27, 0:28:28]: Okay. [0:28:35, 0:28:36]: Okay. [0:28:36, 0:28:41]: This is um concept that we're gonna call concept number one. [0:28:42, 0:28:54]: Um, this is just a general um stock bridge um welcome sign. It does pay some homage to um Dr. Martin Luther King Senior, Daddy King. [0:28:54, 0:28:58]: Um and just welcoming people to Stockbridge. [0:28:58, 0:29:00]: And then the next one. [0:29:00, 0:29:08]: Is another version of that particular um welcome to Stock Bridge sign. We're calling that number design number two. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: And [0:29:12, 0:29:14]: This is design number three. [0:29:14, 0:29:27]: Another welcome to Stockbridge um sign, but this kind of um has an homage to trains and we were thinking that this one is more of a a childlike whimsical type design. [0:29:28, 0:29:31]: Um that we could use um [0:29:33, 0:29:34]: And uh oh. [0:29:34, 0:29:36]: Okay, there it is. [0:29:36, 0:29:52]: And then there is no number four. Sorry about that. We misnumbered those. But then we have five and six. These are pictorial designs that give homage to Reverend Martin Luther King Sr. [0:29:53, 0:30:07]: um also looks at his early life. And then the second one is one that looks at his um older life and some of the things that he's accomplished. And again, these are concept designs. They uh [0:30:08, 0:30:09]: What happened here? [0:30:11, 0:30:19]: Um, okay, these are concept designs just to kind of get us thinking in terms of what we would like to see with regard to the mural. [0:30:20, 0:30:25]: Um you all have the documents there so you can take them out and and make your um [0:30:26, 0:30:32]: Notes. Now the locations for these murals, the welcome mural, um we have [0:30:32, 0:30:42]: two locations. The first location is the um sidewall that is right off of Herrell Street by the [0:30:42, 0:30:44]: Um elementary school. [0:30:45, 0:30:49]: That is a six foot tall wall that um [0:30:49, 0:30:58]: is on a down slope. So it starts at six feet and then it goes all the way down to um two feet in height. So that one has a decline in it. [0:30:59, 0:30:59]: The [0:31:00, 0:31:01]: Second location [0:31:02, 0:31:04]: Um for the welcome sign. [0:31:05, 0:31:07]: And this is kind of a pie in the sky. [0:31:08, 0:31:11]: type location. It is on the side of [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: Um Oglesby's Realty. [0:31:14, 0:31:19]: That is in the downtown area. You see that building right when you come over the bridge. [0:31:19, 0:31:26]: Um, so far Mr. Oglesby has not been as amenable as we would like for him to. [0:31:27, 0:31:43]: to um allow us to put the welcome sign on the side of his building, but we're still trying to work on him to see if he will um do so. I think that once we have a design to actually show him and he's able to visualize what that can look like. [0:31:43, 0:31:51]: He might be a little bit more um interested in allowing us to um place the mural on the side of his building. [0:31:51, 0:31:53]: And of course, this would require. [0:31:53, 0:31:57]: Um an agreement between the um city. [0:31:57, 0:31:59]: And um Mr. Oglesby. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: So if that does come to fruition, we will [0:32:03, 0:32:05]: Нічю м окурс. [0:32:05, 0:32:07]: Engage um [0:32:07, 0:32:11]: The um city manager, the um [0:32:11, 0:32:18]: Community development director and the city council to make sure that that um agreement is created and [0:32:18, 0:32:20]: is in um [0:32:20, 0:32:21]: Is [0:32:23, 0:32:25]: is agreeable to all parties. [0:32:25, 0:32:28]: And then uh we had the [0:32:28, 0:32:41]: five and six those murals five and six concepts those are what we are calling our panel murals these are murals that will be placed on panels and be um [0:32:41, 0:32:42]: Yes. [0:32:42, 0:32:45]: Excuse me, Clear, if there's some feedback. [0:32:45, 0:32:47]: Oh, they just present it. [0:32:48, 0:32:53]: I think it might be Greg. He's just coming on and he might have his speaker on as well. [0:32:53, 0:32:55]: Yes. Thar that [0:32:55, 0:32:56]: Okay. [0:32:56, 0:32:57]: That's okay. [0:32:58, 0:32:59]: Can you all hear me now? [0:33:01, 0:33:15]: Okay. Um and then the five and six, those are murals that we are planning for the Breezeway area that would be on panels on the side of the what is now called the Ted Strickland. [0:33:15, 0:33:19]: Community center, which will be the welcome center and Main Street program office. [0:33:19, 0:33:26]: These will be on panels and can be removed. So they will not be painted directly onto the bricks. [0:33:26, 0:33:31]: They will be m be able to be moved if we need to. [0:33:32, 0:33:37]: move them to another location or um no longer want them on the side of the building. [0:33:37, 0:33:38]: They [0:33:39, 0:33:46]: Um here recently um that has been kind of a trend. Um Lisa and I um were just talking about this where [0:33:46, 0:33:52]: Um, they have had some murals that are kind of traveling um to different cities, different main street cities. [0:33:52, 0:33:55]: Have been sharing their murals with communities. [0:33:55, 0:33:58]: That do not have them in their cities. [0:33:58, 0:33:59]: Um [0:33:59, 0:34:07]: They let them borrow them for certain periods of time for special art presentations, especially during this um COVID environment. [0:34:07, 0:34:11]: Just to give people something to come to their downtowns. [0:34:11, 0:34:14]: and view. So that's something that might be [0:34:14, 0:34:24]: um available to us as well. So I think first what we have to do is allow Mr. Christian to talk to us a little bit about each design. [0:34:25, 0:34:30]: And uh what he was thinking and then uh we'll get some feedback from you all as well. [0:34:31, 0:34:38]: Okay. Um first uh the whole idea of sharing murals, that's the first I've heard of that and I don't know anyone doing that. So [0:34:38, 0:34:49]: That was a great opportunity for these types of panels, you know, if we want to, you know, do that as well. Uh well basically um if we start off with uh talking about the wall at the school. [0:34:49, 0:34:55]: Uh that would be like the it's the one that's six and a half feet tall and it goes down, but it's it's very long wall. [0:34:55, 0:35:01]: Uh the um challenges with that wall is the fact that it's not high. [0:35:01, 0:35:19]: Uh now we could also whatever we put there could be also be on panels to make it taller. So uh usually uh when you paint a mural, you start it let's say knee high or two feet from the ground and then go up let's say eight or ten feet or however. We could actually um [0:35:19, 0:35:26]: do let's say a 30 or 40 foot section of that wall and install poles to put it on like a billboard. [0:35:26, 0:35:28]: Up against that wall. [0:35:28, 0:35:35]: to give it a better uh exposure. Uh now obviously that's just an idea. It's not to say that we can't do something [0:35:36, 0:35:38]: Just six feet high, but I just thought I'd throw that out. [0:35:39, 0:35:46]: So there's an option to do that. And then uh now the whole idea with the train concept with that wall. [0:35:46, 0:35:58]: was the fact that it would make sense because it's slower f lower and not so high that we could do something that might be really long and then have if you look inside, I guess that's drawn design number three. [0:35:59, 0:36:01]: Um yeah. [0:36:01, 0:36:02]: One with the train. [0:36:03, 0:36:08]: The the idea with the train concept was to basically make it more kid friendly. [0:36:09, 0:36:12]: And inside the windows of the train. [0:36:12, 0:36:32]: we could have different people in the train doing different things. Uh it could be all kids. It could be some famous people maybe in the windows. Uh maybe um it could be an educational type thing where we have uh um kids doing different things. Uh so um [0:36:32, 0:36:34]: Anyway, that's um [0:36:35, 0:36:46]: Uh that's my idea, our ideas for that. Uh and John, if I could just um jump in real quick, you see a little depiction of a little um cartoon lion. [0:36:46, 0:37:01]: on the end of that particular um train right their little mascot at Stockbridge Elementary is the um tiger. I said lion, it's a tiger. So maybe we can incorporate the tiger into the um train as well. [0:37:01, 0:37:13]: So just think of the little windows filled with um diverse people doing diverse things and just um a whimsical look to that particular train. [0:37:13, 0:37:19]: Um also a part of our grant from the um [0:37:19, 0:37:21]: Georgia um arts council. [0:37:22, 0:37:30]: Is um part of our grant when we wrote that request was to allow children to participate in an art day. [0:37:31, 0:37:36]: where they would actually be able to assist with painting the mural. [0:37:37, 0:37:38]: So [0:37:38, 0:37:41]: Um, we thought that this would also be a concept that [0:37:42, 0:37:56]: the kids could get involved with and be excited about because they would be able to assist with the painting. Now, COVID has happened, school has been kind of sketchy as far as being in-person and being um [0:37:57, 0:38:11]: virtual so we would of course have to see what is available to us with regard to that. We might have to also um look at assistance from our Stockbridge Youth Council. [0:38:12, 0:38:15]: Um, if we cannot get the assistance from the school. [0:38:15, 0:38:16]: Um [0:38:16, 0:38:22]: But this is a concept that we thought would be kid friendly and community friendly. [0:38:22, 0:38:25]: And would allow for some interaction. [0:38:25, 0:38:30]: um with the community as being a part of the actual creation of the mural. [0:38:31, 0:38:32]: Okay. [0:38:33, 0:38:40]: An another thought too, um, with that wall being very long, uh if I'm not mistaken, it's over a hundred feet long, but it gets narrower and narrower. [0:38:40, 0:38:43]: We can just extend the length of the train. [0:38:43, 0:38:59]: where the kids can actually we'll just move move, let's say the caboose of the of the train would be painted on panels that would actually attach to the brick wall. And then we can just move the caboose down as we add train cars. Uh we could also um [0:38:59, 0:39:09]: have the windows blank or let's say we paint some of the windows with certain people in them doing different things and then leave the insides of the windows blank. [0:39:09, 0:39:15]: For the art teacher to have other kids add different things to inside the windows, they can actually [0:39:15, 0:39:18]: Paint the kids in the windows. That's an idea. [0:39:19, 0:39:31]: We could also maybe make the train uh a circus train, maybe that's an idea. Cause seeing how we have the tiger uh is their mascot, he could potentially be I can envision him being kind of like the uh [0:39:31, 0:39:39]: uh the ring masker maybe with the top hat and all uh so there's cool things we can do associated [0:39:39, 0:39:41]: with the school and also the mascot. [0:39:42, 0:39:46]: So um can I get any input or questions for that design? [0:39:52, 0:40:00]: This is a Nika Pods. I absolutely love Hi, the uh train idea and making it something where [0:40:00, 0:40:07]: One is sustainable and um interactive for the community, for the kids, educational. [0:40:07, 0:40:20]: um it can um uh convert, it can evolve, it wouldn't be stagnant um if we can kind of incorporate a a number of the things that you are stating and what Ms. Braggs has stated. [0:40:20, 0:40:40]: Um, I really like the concept and because it's uh the city, I'm assuming, we wouldn't have to hope that the owner allows us to utilize the space. We can probably super quickly. So the city actually owns that wall, so we don't have to worry about that. Yeah. So I I think it's wonderful. I love it. [0:40:40, 0:40:47]: Well that that's great. Um actually to that point, um a li a living mural, if that's you know,'cause it's so long. [0:40:47, 0:40:49]: Each year they can add something to it. [0:40:49, 0:40:51]: Or we can make um [0:40:51, 0:40:52]: Think of it this way. [0:40:53, 0:41:03]: If you are an art teacher and you have the windows and the windows are all the same size or whatever of the train, she can actually have those done up on little panels that she can actually have the kids draw'em out. [0:41:03, 0:41:04]: In the classroom. [0:41:05, 0:41:09]: And then we can make them to where you just put them inside, like it can hook on. [0:41:09, 0:41:10]: Uh the mural. [0:41:11, 0:41:18]: Like uh, and then they can remove it for each year and then have a different group of kids um put their designs, and then what happens is. [0:41:19, 0:41:23]: at at the end of each year the um the kids get to take their [0:41:23, 0:41:24]: their picture home. [0:41:25, 0:41:26]: To go with the new group of kids. [0:41:26, 0:41:29]: So that mirror will always evolve. [0:41:29, 0:41:36]: The things that would not evolve would be the actual train mural part, and then it's just they just they just fill in what's inside the windows. [0:41:37, 0:41:38]: If that makes sense. [0:41:38, 0:41:41]: Uh and then we just we paint the the caboose. [0:41:42, 0:41:50]: on a piece of plywood that's you know marine plywood and just have it attached to the mural currently and then as we as we [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: Add cars to it, we'll just pick it up. [0:41:53, 0:41:57]: and attach it down down the road there to make it a much longer train. [0:41:57, 0:42:00]: But the first part of the mural, which would be let's say the first thirty feet or so. [0:42:01, 0:42:03]: Wouldn't change. It would just be the rest of it. [0:42:04, 0:42:05]: That's my thoughts. [0:42:07, 0:42:11]: Okay. Is there anyone else who'd like to comment on this particular [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: Um option. [0:42:17, 0:42:25]: Mrs. Bryg. Do you all like it? Do you hate it? Do you see something that needs to change? Like, for example, where community connects. [0:42:25, 0:42:37]: Um that's something that we um it's in green. Of course it's gonna have to be a different color so that you can see it better. Um do we want where community connects on that is the city of Stockbridge's tagline. [0:42:38, 0:42:42]: Um is it too many words on it? Do we want to have that? [0:42:43, 0:42:44]: Like the tree. [0:42:44, 0:42:45]: I like the train idea. Um [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: Children love the train. [0:42:48, 0:42:49]: That is it's like a [0:42:49, 0:42:51]: Exciting for them. [0:42:51, 0:42:54]: So he was talking about um [0:42:54, 0:42:57]: putting different pictures in [0:42:57, 0:43:04]: The windows, I I really like that because as they graduate and move on, other kids are able to join. [0:43:05, 0:43:07]: It's just like a ongoing excitement. [0:43:08, 0:43:10]: I so I like that. So yes, I like it. [0:43:12, 0:43:13]: I like that yeah. [0:43:14, 0:43:18]: Can I ask uh another question? What do y'all think of the idea of the possibility of [0:43:18, 0:43:24]: The first part of the mural on that wall would be on panels that'll be taller to make it more of a an impression. [0:43:25, 0:43:27]: Or do you are you okay with it just being six feet tall? [0:43:29, 0:43:30]: That's that was just the last thing. [0:43:31, 0:43:36]: Mrs. Bragg, this is Councilman Thomas. Uh I do like the ideal of it being a little taller. [0:43:37, 0:43:43]: My concern though is a lot of walking traffic there in that area and I raised this issue before. [0:43:43, 0:43:46]: about the uh possibility of graffiti. [0:43:46, 0:43:48]: Um so [0:43:50, 0:43:51]: How would you [0:43:52, 0:44:00]: come back to do touch ups if if necessary? That's a good good question. Uh this is what I do with uh with that concept. [0:44:00, 0:44:11]: I have been very fortunate that virtually none of my murals have had graffiti on them. I've had occasional put people putting mustaches and beards on uh images, but this is how we combat it. [0:44:12, 0:44:17]: Uh we put a top coat on the wall. It's like Thompson Water Seal Brick and Mortar. [0:44:17, 0:44:25]: And it's not the best top seal, but it's the best for this particular purpose. So what happens is if someone was to graffiti. [0:44:25, 0:44:30]: The mural it's on the actual top coat and all we do is pressure wash it off. [0:44:31, 0:44:33]: touch up we have to touch up and put another fresh coat on it. [0:44:34, 0:44:40]: If the f if the top coat was a much stronger top coat that's you can't ever get it off. [0:44:40, 0:45:00]: Then we wouldn't be able to do that and we'd have issues with removing the graffiti off the walls. So I found the Thompson brick and mortar water seal is the best choice to do that certain thing. And then every year or so, if there's an issue, we can, or if the femural starts to uh need be cleaned or whatever, you can [0:45:00, 0:45:06]: uh clean it, pressure wash it, and then put a fresh coat of top coat on it every few years. [0:45:06, 0:45:15]: And that helps maintain the wall. An another thing too, with the wall being so close, the mural being so far to the ground, usually I start at like two feet high. [0:45:15, 0:45:24]: There's always gonna be uh raindrop dust or dirt on the bottom two or three feet of the mural because of its there's grass there. [0:45:25, 0:45:41]: So i it'll splash up, you know what I mean? So it's gonna be an issue of keeping it clean. That's another reason I think painting the first part of it on panels uh to make it higher and also it would help give it better visibility and also potentially um protect it more. [0:45:41, 0:45:45]: And then course uh the the custodian at the school can [0:45:45, 0:45:49]: you know, clean it if it needs to be clean, you know, with the water hose and such. [0:45:50, 0:45:54]: Well and I was gonna comment on the panels. I I do like the the the higher virgin. [0:45:55, 0:46:00]: Uh, because I was gonna ask the question, did did anyone do a test drive over the bridge? [0:46:00, 0:46:02]: to to [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: Gauge. [0:46:03, 0:46:06]: The visibility uh coming over the bridge. [0:46:06, 0:46:07]: That's a good quote. [0:46:07, 0:46:16]: I have done a test drive and you can see it when you're coming down on the down slope when you're passing by the um [0:46:16, 0:46:17]: Barber shop. [0:46:18, 0:46:20]: Um but [0:46:20, 0:46:35]: You get the best, I guess, view of it when you are um s sitting there at the stoplight and you can see it from um three directions at the stoplight. If it was taller, you could probably see it, you know, for [0:46:35, 0:46:37]: Um earlier. [0:46:37, 0:46:37]: Um [0:46:37, 0:46:44]: for lack of a better way to describe it, you could probably see it a little earlier when you're coming down off of the bridge. [0:46:44, 0:46:45]: But um [0:46:46, 0:46:54]: Yeah, the the best view is when you are sitting at the stoplight in that four-way intersection where you can see it in three directions. [0:46:56, 0:47:01]: Also, uh, if I may say um there's a fence that stands on top of the brick wall, correct? [0:47:01, 0:47:03]: Yes. So [0:47:04, 0:47:07]: I'm guessing that's like a four foot high fence. I don't really know. [0:47:07, 0:47:09]: So what we potentially could do is make [0:47:10, 0:47:14]: extend the mural if we do it on panels the exact height at the top of the fence. [0:47:15, 0:47:20]: And we could paint the back of the um the mural the same color as the fence so it won't be um [0:47:20, 0:47:23]: Uh anything that would be real noticeable. [0:47:23, 0:47:26]: And so that could be a possibility as well. [0:47:27, 0:47:30]: I like that concept'cause it will give a little height to it. [0:47:32, 0:47:47]: So reality is if it let's say um it's uh uh four foot by eight foot panels and the the the panels won't start until two feet from the ground. So reality is it's gonna be about ten feet tall. And that's probably how tall the uh that fence is anyway. [0:47:47, 0:47:49]: And by doing it that way, um [0:47:50, 0:48:01]: The higher it goes, the more the larger the words stockbridge can be. Um versus and then you won't block too much of the train with the wording. If you look at the well, the design has the letters. [0:48:01, 0:48:04]: locking a lot of the uh images of the train. [0:48:04, 0:48:07]: Uh so that could also help with that part of it. [0:48:07, 0:48:10]: Then we uh uh we could also this just another idea. [0:48:10, 0:48:13]: We can also cut out the letters. [0:48:13, 0:48:14]: Um [0:48:14, 0:48:15]: Instead of it being [0:48:16, 0:48:16]: You know [0:48:17, 0:48:24]: straight pieces at the top, you know, like a flat piece. We can curve the letters, curve the cut the plywood to match the [0:48:25, 0:48:30]: letters. So it's like the letters are standing out. That's a another option, but of course that's a little more work, but [0:48:31, 0:48:32]: That's throwing that out. [0:48:33, 0:48:35]: Okay. I actually like that idea. [0:48:37, 0:48:39]: Well how about how how about this? [0:48:40, 0:48:41]: Just suggested for this design. [0:48:42, 0:48:44]: How about now that I've got some input? [0:48:44, 0:48:46]: And I'll do a design. [0:48:47, 0:48:49]: As if how it would look on panels. [0:48:49, 0:48:55]: as well as with the wall and then we can show individual pieces of how the train can potentially [0:48:55, 0:48:59]: The caboose can move to the other side of the wall and then we can have [0:48:59, 0:49:07]: how the the dimensions of the little windows and the kids can actually paint whatever they want inside the windows, it would be obviously [0:49:08, 0:49:11]: kids having fun or e maybe themselves a portrait of themselves. [0:49:12, 0:49:15]: And then every year they can uh take it home with them. [0:49:15, 0:49:17]: And then um [0:49:17, 0:49:24]: uh a new group of kids can put their pictures in the train. And I think that's a really cool idea. And I don't know anyone doing that uh that I'm aware of. [0:49:25, 0:49:31]: Um so uh would you like me to do that? Uh or is there other suggestions for this product? [0:49:32, 0:49:36]: Now I did want to mention that, you know, this is one option. [0:49:36, 0:49:49]: Um there's also one of the there the other two options of just the stock bridge, the word stock bridge. That was image uh one, if you all will look at that. [0:49:50, 0:49:57]: Um that would just be the word Stockbridge. Welcome to Stockbridge with um Martin Luther King Senior. [0:49:58, 0:50:02]: Um and inside the letters there would be um [0:50:03, 0:50:07]: different scenes around Stockbridge, like there might be [0:50:07, 0:50:08]: Um the [0:50:09, 0:50:13]: um water tower or there might be um [0:50:14, 0:50:19]: A picture of City Hall inside the letter. So as you can see, the letters kind of have [0:50:19, 0:50:22]: Pi pictures inside the letters. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: Um [0:50:24, 0:50:34]: Would you all prefer to have something that looks more like this? Or is the train something that we want to go with in that particular spot? [0:50:35, 0:50:37]: Does anybody have an opinion about that? [0:50:38, 0:50:43]: Mrs. Brack, let me ask these questions if I may be before uh the the board chime in. [0:50:44, 0:50:45]: Um [0:50:45, 0:50:49]: Would location I know we talked about two locations. [0:50:49, 0:50:52]: Вот локація диктат. [0:50:53, 0:50:54]: Which mural [0:50:55, 0:50:59]: We would choose, meaning would one look better, say [0:50:59, 0:51:03]: Uh along the building or will one look better uh on the wall? [0:51:05, 0:51:05]: Um [0:51:06, 0:51:15]: To to to be quite frank, I think yes. Um, I would prefer to see the welcome to Stockbridge, the image number um one. [0:51:15, 0:51:26]: on the side of the building coming across the bridge where um Mr. Ogle Oglesby's building is because I think that that would have a more dramatic [0:51:27, 0:51:33]: um effect coming across the bridge and think about the fact that we will have people [0:51:33, 0:51:35]: Um, at some point [0:51:35, 0:51:39]: Um increased trafic during once the amphitheatre is created. [0:51:40, 0:51:48]: People will be um moving along that bridge um in greater numbers, so it will be more visible. And then also. [0:51:49, 0:51:51]: It's more visible to that traffic. [0:51:51, 0:51:53]: um on North Henry Boulevard. [0:51:54, 0:51:55]: Um the [0:51:56, 0:52:00]: site that is right there by the school of course is not as [0:52:01, 0:52:05]: dramatic a location for the one with the big stock bridge letters and [0:52:06, 0:52:14]: The pictorals. So I guess we need to first decide whether we want to go with the train or if we want to go with the more historic. [0:52:15, 0:52:15]: Um [0:52:16, 0:52:19]: Design for that wall. [0:52:21, 0:52:22]: Now the [0:52:22, 0:52:27]: Five and six designs that are um for the downtown area. [0:52:27, 0:52:28]: I think that [0:52:29, 0:52:35]: If we kind of keep our historic designs in that downtown area right there on um [0:52:36, 0:52:39]: Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail and [0:52:39, 0:52:55]: That would mean the side of the Oglesby's building and the Ted Strickland. We keep our historic murals in the downtown area. That is kind of what I would like to see, but I need to make sure that um [0:52:55, 0:53:01]: The board is in agreement and see what your opinion is. Would you all prefer a historic mural? [0:53:01, 0:53:02]: On her real. [0:53:03, 0:53:08]: Or would you prefer the whimsical mural on her rail? Can I can I make a comment before they chime in? [0:53:08, 0:53:22]: Yes. The reason why she wants to do that is the murals would be an attraction for people to go to that downtown area versus driving by and seeing it. I think that's what you pointed out to me the last time we talked. [0:53:22, 0:53:29]: Yes. Um, thank you for bringing that part up. The historic mur murals, we're looking at those to be a draw. [0:53:30, 0:53:36]: And we would want people to be able to get out of their cars, take photos, um [0:53:36, 0:53:39]: really, really delve into the murals. [0:53:39, 0:53:42]: Whereas the Horel street location [0:53:42, 0:53:49]: is a little busier, that's a busy intersection. And we were thinking that that mural would be a more passive mural. [0:53:50, 0:54:01]: location, but I still want to see how you all feel. Would you rather see a historic mural at that site, at that intersection, or the more whimsical passive mural? [0:54:01, 0:54:04]: And Mildred, I think you had your hand up. [0:54:04, 0:54:09]: You thank you. I uh personally I would like to see the uh more whimsical one. [0:54:09, 0:54:12]: On that wall because it's at the school area. [0:54:12, 0:54:14]: And it would also involve [0:54:15, 0:54:20]: the children uh getting involved and because it's in that area of the school. [0:54:21, 0:54:24]: Personally, I think it should be that way. The um [0:54:25, 0:54:27]: As far as the historical area. [0:54:28, 0:54:31]: And I believe you said planning on doing it in the breeze way. [0:54:31, 0:54:33]: A live man. [0:54:33, 0:54:37]: I like that concept in the Breezeway area. [0:54:38, 0:54:40]: So it uh the bridge? [0:54:40, 0:54:41]: Is that what you mean? [0:54:41, 0:54:42]: No, the bridge. [0:54:43, 0:54:49]: Uh the bridges well, excuse me, I was really referring to the area where Lindis [0:54:50, 0:55:02]: Um spidey is is that what you all were talking about? Yes, that's the breeze way. That's where the five and six are definitely gonna go. Okay if um if you all decide to go with the whimsical mural. [0:55:02, 0:55:14]: at Harrell Street by the school, then we would put try to get a historical mural on the side of Mr. Oglesby's building. Right. Okay. We don't want to have two [0:55:15, 0:55:23]: welcome the stockbridge historical murals and to you you understand what I'm saying? I understand what you're saying, but uh the welcome [0:55:24, 0:55:27]: I don't know that the welcome should be on the um [0:55:28, 0:55:34]: side of the build side of the wall, the wall itself. I don't think it's the word welcome to. [0:55:35, 0:55:39]: No, we can put Stockbridge in there, but I don't think welcome two should be okay. [0:55:39, 0:55:49]: on that we can take on which the whimsical one the whimsical one okay yeah just take well just take welcome to i mean if you want and where community connects [0:55:50, 0:55:55]: Maybe instead of saying Stockbridge, you can just move where community connects at the top. [0:55:56, 0:55:57]: In place of stock wage. [0:55:58, 0:55:58]: Okay. [0:55:58, 0:56:03]: Because that's very supposed to be very laid back, right? Right. And you [0:56:03, 0:56:04]: Go ahead. [0:56:04, 0:56:15]: I was gonna say and if we have welcome to Stockbridge on one mural, we won't say welcome to. It'll be a different message on the other mural. We just need to decide which design is gonna go where. [0:56:15, 0:56:22]: Yeah, so that we can present it to the council for their approval. Okay. Well the welcome too should be on the wall. [0:56:23, 0:56:25]: Uh the first concept. [0:56:25, 0:56:30]: Well, I guess I'm maybe I hope I'm not twisting this. But anyway, the welcome to [0:56:30, 0:56:34]: Should be at the bridge area where you can see it across the bridge. [0:56:35, 0:56:37]: I hope I'm looking at the right sign to do that. [0:56:37, 0:56:38]: Um [0:56:38, 0:56:44]: And the whimsical one with the train should be just that where community connect. [0:56:45, 0:56:51]: Because it has to do with movement and train and should be there. And we don't need to say welcome to [0:56:52, 0:56:53]: Okay. [0:56:53, 0:56:54]: I think. [0:56:55, 0:56:56]: All right, Greg, you had your hand up. [0:57:02, 0:57:10]: Yeah, uh I I agree with the whimsical image uh at the wall for the school because I like the idea of bringing [0:57:10, 0:57:16]: art and school and and children together and having a more whimsical [0:57:16, 0:57:23]: uh field there at that intersection um and then agree with a historical mural for the Oglesby location. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: Okay. [0:57:25, 0:57:26]: Thank you. [0:57:28, 0:57:29]: Anyone else? Oh, Nika. [0:57:30, 0:57:50]: Yes, I just want to echo what everyone's saying by the school. Love the concept and um bringing it up on panels to uh elevate. And when traffic is coming down the bridge, uh those people will see, I think it should still say not welcome to, but Stockbridge where communities connect. [0:57:50, 0:57:58]: Because when you're coming in that direction, you won't be able to see the well, you may not be able to see what may be. [0:57:59, 0:58:02]: on downtown building on the other side that says welcome to stop rich so [0:58:03, 0:58:11]: I it would be great to have people in both directions identify that you are now in soffrage, but with that interaction and the sustainability there. [0:58:12, 0:58:30]: You know, the Oglesby building um concept one I like better than two for the verbiage and the images, but I like the vibrancy of concept two better. It's like brighter colors. I know it's because of the rose and everything, but I feel like two is. [0:58:30, 0:58:50]: tying us more back to Atlanta um with having like Ebenezer tied in there and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and um Mrs. King. Um I feel like that's saying, okay, we're connected to Atlanta opposed to we are our own identity, which one gives us more of that, I think. But I just [0:58:50, 0:58:52]: feel like the colors are are a little muted. [0:58:53, 0:59:01]: Um and personally I would love to see a little more um brightness um in the mural for that one. That's just my favorite. Thank you. [0:59:03, 0:59:03]: Okay. [0:59:06, 0:59:06]: Okay. [0:59:07, 0:59:09]: So are we in agreement? [0:59:10, 0:59:15]: That we would like to see the whimsical mural by the school. [0:59:15, 0:59:17]: And then the historical [0:59:17, 0:59:20]: mural, whatever that concept will be. [0:59:20, 0:59:24]: Um whether it's the one or the um option. [0:59:24, 0:59:25]: Two [0:59:26, 0:59:27]: Wait a minute. [0:59:27, 0:59:31]: Yeah, yeah, whether it's option one or option two. [0:59:31, 0:59:32]: It would be [0:59:33, 0:59:35]: Um in the downtown bridge area. [0:59:37, 0:59:40]: And then the whimsical one um by the school. [0:59:41, 0:59:45]: W what about four and f five and six? Um we'll get to those in a minute. [0:59:45, 0:59:50]: All right. I'm just trying to decide which one is gonna be the long mural. [0:59:50, 0:59:52]: Where the long murals are going to be placed. [0:59:54, 1:00:14]: Kira, I have a question. And I I had the runaway when the conversation started and I do apologize for that. I just want to be clear because I there are some concepts on both sides of it. Um Ogre and Horale. Uh we're doing both or just one. We're trying to decide one or both sides of the road. That's why I'm [1:00:14, 1:00:19]: I'm trying to go we're talking about both sides. Are we trying to decide on which one we're gonna go with? [1:00:19, 1:00:20]: No. [1:00:20, 1:00:28]: We're gonna do we're gonna do both sides. We're gonna do both sides eventually if Mr. Oglesby will. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: Cooperate. [1:00:30, 1:00:32]: Okay. Um but right now [1:00:32, 1:00:35]: We're trying to decide which mural will go [1:00:35, 1:00:37]: Um right there by the school. [1:00:37, 1:00:38]: Definitely. [1:00:39, 1:00:41]: So it will either be a historic [1:00:42, 1:00:49]: uh mural with like the homage to daddy king in some way or just the stockbridge letters or the train. [1:00:50, 1:00:52]: Or a combination of the train and letters. [1:00:52, 1:00:53]: Yes. [1:00:54, 1:01:11]: All right, I I'm clear now. I just I was just heard so much stuff going on. I apologize. I missed the first portion of it. No, that's okay. Um, and I apologize if I'm being confusing. The Oglesby building is where we eventually would like to have a mural, but we don't have his permission yet. [1:01:11, 1:01:15]: So that's why I said that's kind of the pie in the sky location. [1:01:16, 1:01:25]: And we would like to try to reserve that space for a historical mural because it's in the downtown area. It might not ever happen. [1:01:26, 1:01:29]: But we are like to try to push. [1:01:29, 1:01:33]: And try to conv I guess I should say persuade and convince him. [1:01:33, 1:01:36]: At some point to allow us to have an agreement. [1:01:36, 1:01:40]: To have a mural on the side of his building. He might say never. [1:01:40, 1:01:46]: And that's why I'd say that if you all definitely want [1:01:46, 1:01:47]: Um [1:01:47, 1:01:51]: А историка муро апостолика муро. [1:01:51, 1:01:55]: That's the only place we can guarantee that it'll go as far as the long mural. [1:01:56, 1:01:59]: On the side of the Ted Strickland, we're definitely. [1:01:59, 1:02:02]: Um putting the historic murals [1:02:02, 1:02:05]: Well, if we get permission from the city council to put them there. [1:02:06, 1:02:11]: That's where we'll put them, but they'll be on panels so they'll be able to be removed if necessary. [1:02:12, 1:02:29]: Okay. So does that clarify things a little bit? It does. I apologize. And I think with the whizical one by the school, I think that's the best one because a school setting you dealing with kids. I agree. But is the verbiage on that gonna be the same or can that be looked at to change, like uh where it say where communities connect? [1:02:29, 1:02:46]: Yes, we can change we can change the verbiage if if we want to. Uh we're just trying to decide what the which design we're gonna go with, and then we can talk about verbiage. And what we'll probably do um in the interest of time is kind of um [1:02:47, 1:02:50]: Set this up as a design committee project. [1:02:50, 1:02:55]: So that um people who are, you know, very interested in what it actually looks like. [1:02:56, 1:02:59]: Um they can we can get a smaller group together. [1:03:00, 1:03:11]: and decide what that verbiage is gonna be and what um that verbiage is gonna look like. So it right now we're just trying to decide between historical drawing or train for that wall. [1:03:12, 1:03:19]: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I I like the the the training for that wall from a school perspective and and it represents the kids and and and [1:03:19, 1:03:25]: the the the school that's on that side. So I I I'm clear now. I I got a truly understanding of it. I think okay. [1:03:26, 1:03:26]: All right. [1:03:27, 1:03:28]: Greg, did you have a comment? [1:03:31, 1:03:45]: Well, I I I think it it bears just just stating that um even if Mr. Oglesby doesn't cooperate and doesn't allow us to have that wall, um, by putting options five and six in the breezeway, we still get to make a connection. [1:03:45, 1:03:49]: to MLK Senior Heritage Trail and Daddy King with a mural there. [1:03:49, 1:03:50]: Right. [1:03:50, 1:03:55]: Yeah, I I think that plays into the the thought of using the whimsical at the school. [1:03:55, 1:03:56]: Okay. [1:03:57, 1:03:59]: Um, Lisa, you had a comment? [1:03:59, 1:04:00]: They'd um [1:04:00, 1:04:07]: When Kira and I discussed this, we tossed around so many different angles and possibilities of [1:04:07, 1:04:09]: You know, a perspective. [1:04:09, 1:04:12]: And I just wanted to add that um [1:04:13, 1:04:14]: I think when we talked to John. [1:04:15, 1:04:16]: Months ago. [1:04:16, 1:04:20]: There was also this part of the conversation. Um I of course like [1:04:21, 1:04:22]: To have the um [1:04:24, 1:04:27]: Where community connects and children and family. [1:04:27, 1:04:28]: Ideal. [1:04:29, 1:04:33]: Where the school is, I think that's also important right now. [1:04:33, 1:04:34]: Because [1:04:34, 1:04:41]: Our nation is in need of inclusion. And that, you know, we have a very inclusive community and that's a wonderful thing. [1:04:41, 1:04:42]: However [1:04:42, 1:04:45]: As another perspective and maybe as devil's advocate. [1:04:46, 1:04:49]: There are so many people who have no clue. [1:04:49, 1:04:53]: That we are the birthplace of the King family. [1:04:54, 1:04:57]: And anytime we've had the opportunity to discuss it. [1:04:58, 1:05:03]: It's always like this major surprise. So and and then also consider that um [1:05:05, 1:05:07]: Forty two, highway forty two. [1:05:07, 1:05:18]: is a major route in and out of Stockbridge. So when people arrive in Stockbridge, of course we want to welcome them, but that might be our opportunity to let them know. [1:05:19, 1:05:21]: Who we are, you know, in terms of. [1:05:22, 1:05:25]: Our history and what we've contributed to the world historiquely. [1:05:26, 1:05:26]: Um [1:05:27, 1:05:27]: The [1:05:27, 1:05:30]: Images in the breeze way. [1:05:30, 1:05:33]: won't get immediate attention from travelers. [1:05:34, 1:05:37]: Um, so it's not the same type of tourism effect. [1:05:38, 1:05:38]: Um [1:05:39, 1:05:42]: We'd love to have it on Mr. Oglesby's building, but [1:05:42, 1:05:47]: Right now we don't know if that will happen. And so I'm just throwing it out there that um [1:05:48, 1:05:50]: The side of the school maybe are [1:05:51, 1:05:54]: First best opportunity. [1:05:54, 1:05:57]: To present that kind of message to the world. [1:05:58, 1:05:59]: Just something that [1:05:59, 1:06:00]: To chew one. [1:06:01, 1:06:03]: Look, can I say something real quick? [1:06:03, 1:06:10]: So another thing I talked to Kier about was if we do that mural at the school on panels. [1:06:10, 1:06:14]: Uh and it's like on a s own little billboard thing. [1:06:14, 1:06:15]: On the back side of the wall. [1:06:16, 1:06:18]: where the fence is and all, we could easily put [1:06:19, 1:06:21]: Another mural on panels right behind it. [1:06:22, 1:06:24]: So it's visual from the other direction. [1:06:25, 1:06:30]: I'm not saying it's gonna be a full mural, but I'm saying it could be something that you could put there if you choose to do that. [1:06:30, 1:06:34]: And later on you can decide to move those panels someplace else. [1:06:35, 1:06:38]: But that's the beauty beauty of book painting them on mirror on panels. [1:06:40, 1:06:41]: So that's a thought. [1:06:42, 1:06:42]: Okay. [1:06:43, 1:06:53]: All right. So I think that we need to kind of take a um final vote so we'll know which way we're going. Um and this can just be kind of an informal [1:06:53, 1:06:54]: Um [1:06:55, 1:07:00]: which way you want to go with whimsical or historical for Horrell Street by the school. [1:07:04, 1:07:13]: Okay, let's do that really quick then. So this is just getting your um input. It's not an official vote. So uh Mr. Hopkins. [1:07:14, 1:07:16]: I say the ones that go by the school. [1:07:16, 1:07:17]: Thank you, sir. [1:07:17, 1:07:18]: Mr. Hortzon? [1:07:22, 1:07:24]: Other when to call that to school. [1:07:25, 1:07:26]: Thank you, Sarah. [1:07:26, 1:07:27]: Miss Jones? [1:07:27, 1:07:29]: The winners go by the school, please. [1:07:30, 1:07:31]: Thanks, ma'am. [1:07:31, 1:07:32]: I agree. [1:07:33, 1:07:34]: With whimsical by the school. [1:07:35, 1:07:39]: And love the concept of being to do something on the backside. Miss Reed? [1:07:40, 1:07:41]: Most of the bad school. [1:07:42, 1:07:42]: Thank you, ma'am. [1:07:43, 1:07:45]: Has Miss Richardson joined us? [1:07:46, 1:07:47]: Not yet. [1:07:47, 1:07:48]: Okay. [1:07:48, 1:07:49]: Mr. Thomas. [1:07:50, 1:07:50]: I concur. [1:07:51, 1:07:52]: Thank you, Sarah. [1:07:54, 1:07:57]: Okay, so it looks like we're gonna go whimsical by the school. [1:07:58, 1:08:07]: And um we will focus our um historical mu murals with historical um subject matter in the downtown area. [1:08:07, 1:08:11]: Okay, good. All right, John. We've got our marching orders with regard to that. [1:08:12, 1:08:12]: Okay. [1:08:13, 1:08:27]: All right. And you had mentioned possibly coming up with a design that had the letters kind of cut out since we're gonna um put them on panels there as well. So um if we could task you with doing that just so um people can see what that might look like. [1:08:28, 1:08:36]: Um and now for we'll move to the downtown murals very quickly and again we might have to um [1:08:37, 1:08:41]: continue this conversation in a smaller group outside of our um [1:08:42, 1:08:44]: regular meeting. [1:08:44, 1:08:47]: Um we have um five and six. [1:08:48, 1:08:52]: Those are the designs that we're looking at placing at um the [1:08:52, 1:09:02]: Breezeway area that will be the main thoroughfare from the Cultural Arts Center. Umce that has been completed, um, Burke Street. [1:09:02, 1:09:11]: And through the downtown to Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. That will be on the sidewall of the Ted Strickland building. There are two two sidewalls there. [1:09:12, 1:09:16]: And those will be the um that will also be the Main Street program office. [1:09:17, 1:09:20]: Um the two concepts that we have um [1:09:20, 1:09:26]: Are one side would be his early life, uh homage to Martin Luther King. [1:09:26, 1:09:28]: Seniors early life and then the [1:09:29, 1:09:32]: Second one would be an homage to his later life. [1:09:33, 1:09:37]: And um we wanted it to be kind of a um historic. [1:09:38, 1:09:41]: type photograph if you will or a vignette if you will. [1:09:42, 1:09:45]: Um my comments were um that [1:09:46, 1:09:48]: I would like to see um [1:09:49, 1:09:52]: The early life to also have um a [1:09:53, 1:09:55]: Um image of Floyd Chapel Baptist Church. [1:09:56, 1:10:06]: I think that that is where his true connection is to our community. Um, he did work with the railroad, but that was not a a a predominant part of his life. [1:10:07, 1:10:10]: So that's the change that I would like to see. [1:10:10, 1:10:14]: Um what do you all think about the two um [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: Two options and mist um councilman Thomas, you might have. [1:10:19, 1:10:32]: um a little more input with regard to some of the um vignette pictures because you have extensively um researched daddy king's life so you might have some jet suggestions rather. [1:10:32, 1:10:38]: Yeah, I I I do think should involve uh Flora Chapel. I think that is the connection. [1:10:39, 1:10:45]: Um I think that also resonate, you know, with the um city as a whole. [1:10:45, 1:10:49]: So I do agree, I think we do need to uh to include that. [1:10:50, 1:10:50]: Okay. [1:10:50, 1:10:52]: And and I will also say that [1:10:52, 1:10:56]: Um, you know, folks are really fascinated. Um [1:10:57, 1:11:00]: About you know Daddy King and Starkridge and [1:11:01, 1:11:03]: That interest is still growing. [1:11:06, 1:11:07]: Yes. [1:11:08, 1:11:10]: Any other comments about the um [1:11:11, 1:11:13]: The suggested um [1:11:14, 1:11:17]: pictorals to be a part of the vignette. [1:11:20, 1:11:21]: Can I make a s [1:11:21, 1:11:29]: Comment real quick? Uh yes. When I've I've researched as many pictures as I could possibly find for Daddy King and also [1:11:29, 1:11:32]: other things. Now when I Googled um [1:11:32, 1:11:35]: Floyd Chapel Church. It was a modern picture of a modern building. [1:11:36, 1:11:38]: Is there a picture of the old building? [1:11:38, 1:11:41]: The way it looked like when he was there. [1:11:42, 1:11:45]: Even if you website is that one. [1:11:46, 1:11:46]: I'm sorry. [1:11:47, 1:11:50]: Maybe I can I can answer that. Um [1:11:52, 1:11:55]: There was a picture I found in an old file. [1:11:56, 1:11:57]: Um that [1:11:57, 1:12:00]: Is supposedly the old Floyd Chapel. [1:12:01, 1:12:09]: There's nothing on the document that actually indicates it's actually Floyd Chapel. You know, a lot of those southern churches look very much alike. [1:12:10, 1:12:11]: In those days. [1:12:11, 1:12:12]: Um [1:12:12, 1:12:16]: So I'm not certain if we have an official picture of [1:12:16, 1:12:17]: They [1:12:17, 1:12:20]: Old Floyd Chapel before the fire. [1:12:20, 1:12:25]: Um or before any modernization modernization has taken place on the building. [1:12:26, 1:12:27]: Um [1:12:27, 1:12:29]: But we can [1:12:29, 1:12:32]: consider using the picture we found that [1:12:33, 1:12:34]: You know, looks a lot like [1:12:35, 1:12:42]: An old southern church similar to that same I mean in the church pr from what everyone has told me, the church has pretty much looked the same. [1:12:42, 1:12:44]: since it was built. [1:12:44, 1:12:47]: Um, I think that the entrance was on [1:12:47, 1:12:50]: An opposite side at one point. [1:12:50, 1:12:59]: But for the most part, it has looked exactly the way it has it looks now. It was just a different color. It was white and they've painted it yellow now. [1:13:00, 1:13:01]: Well can can I [1:13:02, 1:13:03]: Sorry. [1:13:03, 1:13:05]: Can you can you see that anyone? [1:13:06, 1:13:11]: Um, I have to share my screen with you. Hold on. Let me see if I can share it with you. [1:13:16, 1:13:16]: Okay. [1:13:19, 1:13:21]: Um, cause I don't see a picture of you. [1:13:22, 1:13:25]: No, I yeah, uh it's not a picture. [1:13:25, 1:13:28]: I just see the my name in print. [1:13:28, 1:13:33]: But I have a picture on my um Are you able to turn on your video? [1:13:34, 1:13:35]: Uh [1:13:38, 1:13:40]: There you go. I see you. [1:13:41, 1:13:42]: Can you [1:13:42, 1:13:44]: Yeah, I see that. Yeah. That's the old [1:13:45, 1:13:46]: Right. [1:13:47, 1:13:50]: Okay. Um yeah, if we can get some of those pictures. [1:13:50, 1:13:51]: An another suggestion was [1:13:52, 1:13:53]: Uh [1:13:53, 1:13:56]: If we can maybe approach the current membership. [1:13:56, 1:14:02]: They probably have a history archive scrapbooks that's got old pictures of Daddy King preaching. [1:14:02, 1:14:03]: You think so? [1:14:04, 1:14:05]: They don't have any? [1:14:05, 1:14:06]: We've asked. [1:14:07, 1:14:08]: No, they they do that. [1:14:09, 1:14:12]: Uh well let me say this. Um [1:14:13, 1:14:27]: Pastor Vance has um an association with uh Morehouse, and I believe that this is where some of these pictures came from. I'll check with him to see if there's anything uh at Morehouse that we may be able to get. [1:14:28, 1:14:34]: And I also want to make a note that we want the church to be recognizable to the community too. [1:14:34, 1:14:41]: Mm-hmm. So um that's a big thing. Is there a plaque or a plaque of some sort saying that Staddy King was that's where he was? [1:14:41, 1:14:44]: Is there a marker of some s some sort? Yeah, there's a marker there. [1:14:45, 1:14:47]: Well, we can maybe include the marker. [1:14:47, 1:14:48]: In in the mural. [1:14:48, 1:14:49]: Yeah. [1:14:49, 1:14:51]: Greg, you had a comment? [1:14:53, 1:14:54]: Yeah, uh [1:14:54, 1:15:00]: I was just gonna add that I do like your idea of replacing I I assume we're talking about the image. [1:15:01, 1:15:07]: for uh number five that has to train. You're talking about replacing that with the image of Floyd Chapel. [1:15:08, 1:15:08]: Yes. [1:15:09, 1:15:28]: I think that works very well, especially since we're on the Civil Rights Trail. Then you'd have the mural of Floyd Chapel and then the mural of Ebenezer, which connects us f to Atlanta and connects to Floyd Chapel, just a little bit further down the street, right there in one spot on the Civil Rights Trail in that alleyway. [1:15:29, 1:15:30]: Okay. I agree. [1:15:31, 1:15:32]: Anyone else? [1:15:34, 1:15:35]: I agree. [1:15:35, 1:15:36]: Okay. [1:15:37, 1:15:42]: All right, and then um also the um second image. [1:15:42, 1:15:50]: Um they have um Daddy King with um Rosalind and Jimmy Carter and Andy Young and Coretta. [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: Um I [1:15:52, 1:15:57]: Personally, um would like to see an image um if we can possibly find one. [1:15:58, 1:16:07]: um to go there that is more so more works of Daddy King, um, maybe on a picket line or, you know, something like that there. [1:16:07, 1:16:09]: Um, as opposed to [1:16:09, 1:16:15]: these particular figures because they don't really have a a connection to [1:16:15, 1:16:16]: Um [1:16:17, 1:16:22]: stock bridge the way that um maybe Coretta would or um [1:16:22, 1:16:23]: King Junior would have. [1:16:24, 1:16:25]: Um [1:16:25, 1:16:30]: So that might be something that we want to um take a look at as well. [1:16:30, 1:16:36]: But I think that um what we'll do is have a um smaller group. [1:16:36, 1:16:44]: um discussion about the mural, I'll send an invitation out to you all for another time for us to look at that if you're able to. [1:16:44, 1:16:48]: be a part of that you can and then if not [1:16:48, 1:16:53]: You um can just send me comments. You have the um concepts with you. [1:16:54, 1:17:00]: And um then we'll kind of hash this out a little bit more. I just wanted to make sure that we were in agreement. [1:17:00, 1:17:08]: that the two um murals that will be in the breezeway would be um historic in nature and if you all are good with that. [1:17:11, 1:17:12]: Okay. [1:17:12, 1:17:23]: Are there any um other comments or suggestions for the two murals in the breezeway that you'd like to um make sure that we have down now? And again, we'll revisit this. [1:17:23, 1:17:24]: Um [1:17:24, 1:17:25]: At a different time. [1:17:27, 1:17:32]: Uh Mrs. Bragg, just yes. Um I know is Mr. Peterson still on? [1:17:33, 1:17:34]: Yes, he is. [1:17:35, 1:17:38]: Um I know he's been very quiet and I just want to [1:17:38, 1:17:48]: uh extend um you know you're you're part of the family now. So I just want to know if you had it in the comments. Um I just I just want to hear your voice. [1:17:49, 1:17:55]: Oh well I was um I I was taking notes. Uh I'm for the mural project, especially with the amphitheater. [1:17:56, 1:17:58]: I'm thinking about it from a broader standpoint. [1:17:58, 1:17:59]: I want um [1:18:00, 1:18:02]: Stockbridge to be um sort of a destination. [1:18:03, 1:18:09]: Uh we can definitely capitalize off of uh Daddy King's leg legacy. And I I like the mural project. It's [1:18:10, 1:18:13]: It's towards that um arts as economic development concept. [1:18:13, 1:18:14]: So um [1:18:15, 1:18:16]: Yeah, well say it. [1:18:17, 1:18:20]: Uh yeah, just in two honeys, that'll be all. [1:18:20, 1:18:21]: Four twenty eight. [1:18:22, 1:18:25]: Linda, um put your um mic on mute. [1:18:26, 1:18:30]: I'm ordering food. I know we can hear you. Okay. [1:18:32, 1:18:33]: Mm Mr. Peters. [1:18:34, 1:18:34]: Yes, sir. [1:18:35, 1:18:38]: Now you um I I don't know if you got a chance to finish. [1:18:39, 1:18:47]: Oh well all almost. Um and now I was, you know, taking notes on my pad and and typing, but I'll speak to Miss Um Miss Kira about it. [1:18:47, 1:18:51]: about it later. But I I love the um the concept. Hopefully we can get that building. [1:18:52, 1:18:55]: In the main street um area to to agree. [1:18:55, 1:18:59]: To let us have the mural on the side of his building, that'll help with the connectivity. [1:18:59, 1:19:01]: What we're doing with the amphitheater. [1:19:01, 1:19:03]: And um just the whole Main Street in general. [1:19:04, 1:19:05]: But uh as far as the [1:19:06, 1:19:08]: The slide showing the details of the design. [1:19:08, 1:19:09]: I haven't. [1:19:09, 1:19:10]: Uh [1:19:10, 1:19:13]: formed an opinion yet on on who I would like. [1:19:13, 1:19:16]: I know I want Daddy King to be on there as but as far as the details. [1:19:17, 1:19:20]: I d I haven't come to um to an opinion on that yet. [1:19:20, 1:19:21]: Okay. [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: Well, I just wanted to hear your voice. [1:19:23, 1:19:27]: Oh yes, sir. I'm I'm over here taking notes. Taking notes. Thank you. [1:19:27, 1:19:29]: Okay, Mrs. Mrs. Braggs, back to you. [1:19:30, 1:19:42]: Okay. Um so what we'll do is we'll set up a meet give you all some time to kind of think about um the historic murals in the breeze way. We'll try to set up something for the evening of Thursday. [1:19:43, 1:19:43]: Um [1:19:45, 1:19:47]: The eighteenth. [1:19:48, 1:20:00]: Thursday the 18th, we'll do an evening meeting so we won't interrupt your work days. Probably about seven o'clock. Um, I'm sorry, about six thirty. Probably which would you all prefer? Six or seven? [1:20:00, 1:20:04]: for people that are um actually having to go into the office to work. [1:20:05, 1:20:10]: This is Anika seven. Seven. Okay. So we'll do seven on Thursday. [1:20:11, 1:20:13]: The um eighteenth. [1:20:15, 1:20:19]: And that way we can have just a full scale discussion about content for murals. [1:20:21, 1:20:23]: And that'll be d via Zoom. [1:20:24, 1:20:25]: Okay. [1:20:25, 1:20:39]: So thank you for your input. I appreciate you giving um your feedback and being um very candid and honest about um your opinions with regard to that. And we'll revisit this and get some final um recommendations. Um [1:20:39, 1:20:45]: that we can present to the council to get their final go ahead with um having these murals installed. [1:20:45, 1:20:46]: Okay. Um [1:20:47, 1:20:50]: Moving to the next part of um [1:20:50, 1:20:59]: Our agenda, new business, Main Street trainings are coming up. Oh, John, I'm sorry. I'll go ahead and guess if you don't need me. [1:20:59, 1:21:06]: Oh yes. And I'll call you right after this meeting, John. I'm sorry. All right. Bye bye. I forgot you weren't a part of the group for a minute there. [1:21:06, 1:21:10]: Thanks, John. Thanks, John. I'll be talking to you. [1:21:11, 1:21:16]: Okay, sorry about that. Y'all forgot that he was not a part of the group formally. Okay. Um [1:21:17, 1:21:37]: So Main Street trainings are coming up. If you all are interested in attending the National Main Street Convention, please let me know. Registration has come up and we want to be able to get our early bird pricing. This is the first time because it is virtual that you all as a board will [1:21:37, 1:21:45]: Be able to attend the national conference. So that is the rainbow in this whole COVID situation that. [1:21:46, 1:21:55]: you all will be able to attend this very, very important conference. The dates for the conference are going to be April the 12th through the 14th. [1:21:56, 1:22:13]: They are all day sessions. Um, you don't have to attend every session. You can kind of pick and choose what you would like to attend. Um, and they have an open plenary session, they have excellent speakers, and I would recommend that everybody [1:22:13, 1:22:31]: um agree to attend at least some of the sessions of the conference. So look at your calendars and get back to me to let me know whether or not you will be able to attend. You can go on the main the national main street site, Main Street Now. [1:22:31, 1:22:34]: Um and they have um [1:22:34, 1:22:40]: the whole conference um calendar so you can kind of take a look at what they're gonna be offering. [1:22:40, 1:22:41]: Um [1:22:41, 1:22:52]: But I would suggest that you make time in your schedule to do this. Again, it's virtual so you can have it playing while you're doing other things in the background. [1:22:53, 1:23:13]: And you can set up your schedule the way you would like for it to be set up as far as what you would like to attend. I need your answers with regard to whether you are going to be registered by the 19th. So please get back to me within a week's time as to whether or not you would like for me to register you for the conference. That'll give [1:23:13, 1:23:20]: Give you some time to go on the website and look to see what they are offering as far as um sessions, but this is an opportunity. [1:23:21, 1:23:32]: That is very rare. So please, please um be sure to take a look at the website and make plans to attend at least some of the sessions. But I need to know if you want to be registered. [1:23:32, 1:23:34]: By um next week this time. [1:23:35, 1:23:36]: Here. [1:23:36, 1:23:37]: Yes, sir. [1:23:37, 1:23:38]: Give you that acknowledgement now. [1:23:39, 1:23:40]: I'm sorry. [1:23:40, 1:23:46]: Can we give you that acknowledgement now? Oh sure. If you know you want to attend, yes. Okay. Thank you, Willie. [1:23:48, 1:23:52]: Okay, I've got you down. And anyone else just let me know before next Friday. [1:23:53, 1:24:13]: Also, we need to um talk about our um board retreat. Um we are supposed to meet every year annually for our work session, as you all know. Um, COVID um did not allow for us to do that um last year, so we're a year behind, but um our accreditation is not in jeopardy because. [1:24:13, 1:24:17]: because everyone was in the same situation. [1:24:17, 1:24:22]: They gave us some leniency at DCA with regard to their requirement for us hosting our annual retreat. [1:24:23, 1:24:29]: But I do want to get some feedback from you all with regard to how we want to do this. [1:24:30, 1:24:31]: Um [1:24:31, 1:24:34]: Right now we're having our meet meetings virtually. [1:24:35, 1:24:54]: But we do have spaces that are large enough, like the Merrill Manders Conference Center, if we would like to get together in an in-person basis, socially distanced, of course, to host our retreat, or if you all would prefer to have it still virtually. [1:24:54, 1:24:58]: And that's a question I would like to put out to you all for some feedback. [1:25:00, 1:25:03]: Virtually for me, I I think is is as much [1:25:03, 1:25:05]: Easier um [1:25:06, 1:25:08]: For me, I have so many meetings and [1:25:09, 1:25:11]: But I I'll just vote virtually for myself. [1:25:12, 1:25:12]: Okay. [1:25:13, 1:25:15]: Does anyone else have comments? [1:25:15, 1:25:19]: Kira, this is Anika. Is there a particular date we need to have it by? [1:25:20, 1:25:30]: There's no particular there's no particular date, but you know, you all know traditionally we have always had our retreat in the early quarter of the year. [1:25:31, 1:25:37]: Um, so we're kind of getting to that time. We're actually maybe a little bit late. We usually have it um March, April. [1:25:38, 1:25:47]: Um have even had it in February one year, which was really good because we were able to more effectively plan the whole year, but we're a little behind. So [1:25:47, 1:25:48]: Um [1:25:49, 1:25:53]: I would say at least by April we need to be h hosting our retreat. [1:25:54, 1:26:02]: Okay. If it needs to be in the first quarter of the year, I agree with m uh councilman Thomas that we remain virtual because uh not a lot has changed. [1:26:03, 1:26:03]: Okay. [1:26:05, 1:26:08]: All right, anyone else have an opinion? [1:26:11, 1:26:15]: Okay. I concur with you as well. Virtual. I concur with you. [1:26:17, 1:26:21]: All right. So I think we'll try to do I concur virtual as well. [1:26:21, 1:26:23]: Okay, Greg, thank you. [1:26:24, 1:26:25]: Anyone else? [1:26:26, 1:26:29]: Oh virtual as well. Virtual. Okay, Linda. Yes. [1:26:30, 1:26:31]: What about you, Maildrit? [1:26:32, 1:26:46]: Oh, I have no problem. I I I can go virtual. I was just thinking because something I need to say and it's the time it's still early. It's a little too early. At first I was gonna recommend Merle Manders and we space out. I've I've done some of that. [1:26:46, 1:26:49]: uh not too long ago and I and it was very effective. [1:26:50, 1:26:51]: But we know virtual. [1:26:52, 1:26:55]: Okay. So we're agreeing to do it virtually [1:26:55, 1:27:02]: And another thing that I would like to propose to you all is that um we try to [1:27:02, 1:27:04]: Include [1:27:04, 1:27:08]: The downtown development authority try to do something jointly. [1:27:08, 1:27:18]: with them. I would like to speak with their leadership. Um they've had a change in leadership and I think that they are very amenable to us. [1:27:18, 1:27:28]: hosting a joint session. Um I will be um participating in their meeting on next Tuesday and you all of course as always are welcome to [1:27:28, 1:27:34]: Um s um watch those sessions of the DDA meeting. It is a public meeting. [1:27:34, 1:27:37]: And I would like to um speak with them about [1:27:38, 1:27:40]: Hosting a joint. [1:27:40, 1:27:41]: Um planning retreat. [1:27:42, 1:27:47]: Um, I'm not exactly sure how we do all of that virtually because you know we usually [1:27:47, 1:27:49]: are spread out and we've got [1:27:50, 1:27:50]: Big [1:27:50, 1:27:56]: paper and um whiteboards and all of that kind of stuff when we do this type of planning. [1:27:56, 1:28:01]: so that we can um really, really get into the nitty gritty of planning. But [1:28:01, 1:28:06]: Um, I would at least like to put that option out there and then um try to [1:28:07, 1:28:14]: put together a few people in a committee to figure out what that is gonna look like and um how it needs to be presented. [1:28:14, 1:28:18]: But how do you all feel about trying to approach the DDA about a joint session? [1:28:20, 1:28:24]: Mrs. Bragg, um I I had that on my to do list. I had [1:28:24, 1:28:26]: Spoken with um [1:28:26, 1:28:37]: the leadership of the uh well I'll just say with Mr. Nighton and um I I have a meeting with plan w with Mr. Peterson, but I had that on my to do list because I think [1:28:37, 1:28:50]: When we start talking about economic development, uh I think the city council, the main street, and the DDA need to be in on that session so we're all uh understanding the direction that we're going. [1:28:51, 1:28:51]: Okay. [1:28:53, 1:28:54]: I concur. [1:28:55, 1:29:00]: Okay. All right. I will um oh, Mr. Peterson. [1:29:00, 1:29:01]: Oh yes ma'am. [1:29:02, 1:29:05]: Uh one quick question. Around what time did you want to have that meeting? [1:29:06, 1:29:08]: with the uh with the DDA, that joint meeting. [1:29:08, 1:29:21]: Um, I would have to talk with them. I'm assuming that because they meet in the evenings that the retreat would have to be in in an on an evening or on a weekend. We usually host our retreat on a Saturday. [1:29:22, 1:29:26]: Um so that people don't have to interfere with their work schedule. [1:29:26, 1:29:35]: So I'm thinking that if we go with our tradition, it would be on a Saturday, probably starting at around nine o'clock and go until twelve PM. [1:29:36, 1:29:44]: And then um if it is more so in keeping with the DDA schedule, it would probably be in the evening sometime. [1:29:44, 1:29:50]: But we are required to do um four hours of um training with regard to the board retreat. [1:29:51, 1:29:57]: I don't know if that's gonna turn into like a two day'cause I don't know if anybody wants to sit on virtual for four hours, but [1:29:57, 1:30:02]: We'll have to pull a committee together to kind of see what that looks like. So it would either be in an evening. [1:30:03, 1:30:06]: A weekday evening or on a Saturday starting in the morning. [1:30:07, 1:30:08]: Okay. Are you looking at a [1:30:09, 1:30:11]: Uh March or April around that time. [1:30:12, 1:30:12]: Um [1:30:13, 1:30:23]: I'm thinking Mar I mean April now, because we would probably need a month to pull it together and if we're gonna have it facilitated to get a facilitator and that sort of thing. [1:30:27, 1:30:29]: April at the earliest. [1:30:30, 1:30:33]: May, maybe, you know, if we can't pull it all together in time. [1:30:41, 1:30:42]: Are there any other comments on that? [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: Are you all good with approaching the D DA? [1:30:50, 1:30:59]: Ms. Bergman. Craig's clapping. Everybody's got a thumbs up. Okay. So I'll try to um make that happen. I'll speak with their leadership and see what we can come up with. [1:31:00, 1:31:03]: Mrs. Braggs, if I may. Um Yes, sir. [1:31:03, 1:31:04]: Um [1:31:06, 1:31:10]: This is very important that I have sort of moved forward with. [1:31:11, 1:31:11]: Um [1:31:12, 1:31:15]: think we have to include um the council. [1:31:15, 1:31:21]: Um, it is very important. Uh I know we've been fragmented in the past. [1:31:22, 1:31:24]: It is very it is crucial. [1:31:25, 1:31:28]: That all of us understand how we are team. [1:31:29, 1:31:35]: and trying to move forward, uh not only with economic development, but even community development. [1:31:35, 1:31:37]: So I think it's gonna be important. So [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: My point is [1:31:40, 1:31:42]: Not to rush it. [1:31:42, 1:31:46]: Let's make sure that the schedule fits everyone. [1:31:46, 1:31:52]: Because what comes out of that is going to be crucial for the future of of Star Gridge and [1:31:52, 1:31:57]: I'll speak to you uh offline um about some things, but um [1:31:58, 1:32:01]: This is a crucial step, and we we have to definitely make sure that. [1:32:02, 1:32:09]: Um, you know, we move forward and try to get the best out of this. Um scrupulous, but I speak to you a little bit more offline. [1:32:09, 1:32:10]: Okay. [1:32:11, 1:32:12]: Mr. Horton. [1:32:13, 1:32:14]: Great. [1:32:18, 1:32:19]: Yes. [1:32:19, 1:32:21]: Um um [1:32:21, 1:32:25]: I I really appreciate Councilman Thomas's uh [1:32:26, 1:32:28]: thoughts and and and willingness to [1:32:29, 1:32:30]: Uh [1:32:30, 1:32:32]: have that joint retreat. [1:32:32, 1:32:39]: But I think given the history um here in Stockbridge with Main Street and the DDA and the council. [1:32:40, 1:32:44]: I don't think we're ready for all three of those to come together in retreat yet. [1:32:44, 1:33:04]: I think it's important for Main Street and DDA to come together and develop that relationship and get a game plan before we present it to the council, as he's saying, because I think it's it's that important that that we need to get ourselves in order before we go before the council because the council will come in with its own agenda. [1:33:06, 1:33:08]: I c I I can I can agree with that. [1:33:09, 1:33:15]: Um, I'll also touch on that. I think that people um may feel [1:33:15, 1:33:22]: somewhat intimidated sometimes if the council members are there um with regard to uh free discussion. [1:33:23, 1:33:36]: Um, I think that if we, you know, other than the council liaisons that are appointed to those particular boards, I think that if we have our retreat first and talk amongst ourselves about [1:33:37, 1:33:42]: downtown development and what we would like to see and what we would like to recommend. [1:33:42, 1:33:45]: And then maybe have an additional session. [1:33:46, 1:33:55]: where council is invited and we make presentations and have um free dialogue, I think that that might be a better idea. [1:33:55, 1:34:01]: Because um we have had situation number one, it's gonna be difficult enough to get. [1:34:01, 1:34:03]: The schedules of [1:34:04, 1:34:05]: About fifteen [1:34:05, 1:34:09]: people together and then adding an additional six work [1:34:09, 1:34:12]: you know, surpassing twenty people. [1:34:12, 1:34:15]: So that's also an issue and has been an issue in the past. [1:34:16, 1:34:23]: Where we weren't able to get all of our council members and all of our DDA members and everyone together in one place. [1:34:24, 1:34:27]: And it's also been a situation where um [1:34:28, 1:34:30]: The discussion has kind of been muddled. [1:34:31, 1:34:33]: So I think that I agree with Greg. [1:34:34, 1:34:40]: That it would probably be in our best interest to first have the two downtown organizations meet and then um [1:34:40, 1:34:42]: Incorporate the council. [1:34:42, 1:34:42]: Mm-hmm. [1:34:44, 1:34:45]: Anyone else? [1:34:47, 1:34:48]: I totally agree. [1:34:49, 1:34:50]: Okay. [1:34:51, 1:34:52]: I agree that um [1:34:52, 1:34:53]: Thank you. [1:34:53, 1:34:54]: Okay. [1:34:54, 1:34:58]: And thank you for pointing that out, Greg. Mr. Hopkins is giving the thumbs up. [1:34:58, 1:35:05]: So I think that that's what we'll try to do, Alan. We will um approach the DDA about trying to set up something. [1:35:05, 1:35:06]: Um by April. [1:35:07, 1:35:11]: for the two groups to meet and then we will look at the calendar for something. [1:35:11, 1:35:15]: a bit later after that session to include the council. [1:35:17, 1:35:17]: Okay. [1:35:18, 1:35:26]: All right. Um then just very quickly, and I know we're past time, so let me just quickly give you all an update on the amphitheater. [1:35:27, 1:35:28]: Um [1:35:28, 1:35:44]: Because I have some pictures, our other projects, what I'll do is send you all a written um update, email that out to you all so you all will be abreast of what's going on with our um projects. All of them are moving along. But let me share my screen really quickly. [1:35:46, 1:35:46]: Um [1:35:49, 1:35:51]: Can you all see that um [1:35:54, 1:35:55]: The Stockbridge amphitheater. [1:35:55, 1:35:56]: Yes. [1:35:56, 1:35:57]: Okay. [1:35:58, 1:36:00]: Um of course that is the um [1:36:01, 1:36:09]: Rendering for the um overall site, just wanted to refresh your memory on what it's supposed to look like um as the end product. [1:36:11, 1:36:16]: Um this is the construction that's going on now. Um I'm gonna use my [1:36:17, 1:36:30]: Cursor, if I can, to kind of show you some of the things that have changed since our last update. All of this brickwork has been completed. They're now doing the interiors. Um, this um [1:36:30, 1:36:37]: area here they've put in the pavers. Can't really tell that well from the picture, but all of this is [1:36:38, 1:36:48]: are um brick pavers in this area here and that's how it is in each one of the um entryways. You can see the stage coming up and the VIP area there. [1:36:49, 1:36:50]: Um so [1:36:50, 1:36:54]: The majority of the um exterior work has been done and they're now [1:36:55, 1:36:57]: doing um interiors. [1:36:58, 1:36:58]: Oops. [1:36:59, 1:37:07]: Um, this is an aerial view of the seating area. You can see that um this is a terraced. [1:37:07, 1:37:14]: Seating area here with stairs down the middle and all of the sides. This is right in front of the stage. [1:37:14, 1:37:18]: This area is I kind of call it the um [1:37:19, 1:37:37]: the um orchestra pit kind of seating area here where they'll be able to place um tables for special events um or additional seating. Then you have the seating that is right up adjacent to the stage. These are um [1:37:38, 1:37:41]: kind of pavilion like areas that have seating. [1:37:42, 1:37:43]: available um [1:37:44, 1:37:49]: And these are the ticketing wheel call and concession stands. [1:37:50, 1:37:52]: Um these three buildings here. [1:37:53, 1:38:00]: And Mr. Thomas, you've also had an update. So if you want to jump in, you can for any additional detail. [1:38:00, 1:38:03]: Um this area here, this is a um [1:38:03, 1:38:06]: shot where you can kind of see [1:38:06, 1:38:07]: The um [1:38:08, 1:38:17]: Oh, I pointed to the wrong area. This is the area where the tables and additional seating can go. I had pointed to this in the other picture. Is this area actually here? [1:38:17, 1:38:23]: where the tables and additional seating can go. Then you have the seating adjacent to the stage. [1:38:23, 1:38:31]: This is the terrace seating here. And this is underneath one of those little um pavilions where they have seating. [1:38:31, 1:38:33]: Um underneath the um [1:38:35, 1:38:41]: What do you want to call them? Canopies for lack of a better word here. And these are the three well, two of the three buildings. [1:38:42, 1:38:47]: that will um house wheel call, restrooms and the ticketing. [1:38:49, 1:38:50]: And concession stand. [1:38:52, 1:39:07]: Um, I wanted to show you all this. This is an interior view of um one of the rooms. Um, they're going to have a um VIP area and then also the dressing rooms for the um [1:39:07, 1:39:11]: People who perform um have performances there for the [1:39:12, 1:39:20]: Um, whoever is a part of the performance group, they'll have a dressing room, dressing rooms available. So just to give you an idea of [1:39:20, 1:39:25]: um the the modern and kind of um eclectic feel that they kind of have. [1:39:25, 1:39:27]: Um inside the [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: Um [1:39:28, 1:39:30]: VIP and dressing room area. [1:39:32, 1:39:42]: Um then we have the adjacent park area. This is an aerial view of where the um some additional parking and the walking and [1:39:42, 1:39:47]: Um walking trail and park area will be with um the pond. [1:39:49, 1:39:51]: Um trails walk going around the pond. [1:39:52, 1:40:02]: Um these are some of the program imagery um shots that provide yes, sir. Uh before you go, I wanted to make a comment here. Um [1:40:03, 1:40:07]: At our last council meeting and I want to share this to this with this group. [1:40:07, 1:40:25]: Uh if you could point to your cursor to the um I guess on the screen it would be up to the top. Yeah. I raised an issue there. Um if you notice, you know, you have a residential area, homeowners, etc. etc. I raised the issue of some type of um [1:40:25, 1:40:30]: Security fencing with some um greenery planted. [1:40:30, 1:40:35]: Um it is so close. If you travel, if you go back to Lee Street. [1:40:36, 1:40:37]: Bryant Street [1:40:38, 1:40:40]: That is so close. [1:40:40, 1:40:43]: Um, you know, and you know, we've had some issues. [1:40:44, 1:40:47]: Uh you know, very street right there. [1:40:47, 1:40:53]: Right. Right. But um but we've had some issues. So I'm pushing the city to [1:40:54, 1:41:01]: um invest in some type of uh security fencing back there to separate that from the homeowners. [1:41:01, 1:41:04]: Um, you know, I'm really concerned about [1:41:04, 1:41:16]: you know, some other issues, but I just wanted to share that with this group. I don't know if anyone else will will have that concern. Once you sort of go out there and you'd be able to see how close [1:41:16, 1:41:19]: Uh that resident area is [1:41:19, 1:41:28]: uh to that particular location right there. It just you walk out your back door and you're on the campus of the amphitheater. And that raises a little concern for me. [1:41:29, 1:41:43]: Um, I agree and um was at the m meeting and heard that being brought up. I definitely agree. And then I also think that in the future there might even have to be some sound barrier type walls. [1:41:44, 1:41:46]: Yeah. [1:41:46, 1:41:47]: Yes. Um [1:41:48, 1:41:50]: But these are some um [1:41:50, 1:42:06]: program imagery photos that kind of give you an idea of what they're planning. Um of course these are shots in other um locales, but they're planning to have a a pond with a water feature, an overlook where you kind of look down into the area. [1:42:07, 1:42:09]: Окурс, трес и [1:42:10, 1:42:17]: Um, so that kind of gives you an idea about that. And this is the actual site. Here is the um [1:42:18, 1:42:28]: the um amphitheater campus and then this is the adjacent park area. As you see can see they have planned some parking. [1:42:28, 1:42:36]: This is the overlook area that I mentioned where you'll kind of be able to stand on a platform and look down into [1:42:36, 1:42:40]: the pond and walking trail area. This building here. [1:42:41, 1:42:44]: Is that home that is still on? [1:42:45, 1:42:51]: Um East Atlanta Road, they call it the Stockbridge Museum Building because there was talk about [1:42:52, 1:42:58]: putting the museum there. But I think since they have started talking about tearing that building down, haven't they? [1:42:58, 1:43:00]: Um, Mr. Thomas. [1:43:01, 1:43:02]: Yes, um [1:43:04, 1:43:08]: There is a plan for the um [1:43:08, 1:43:10]: Uber and Lyft. [1:43:11, 1:43:11]: Um [1:43:12, 1:43:12]: Area. [1:43:13, 1:43:20]: Um I I really can't get into details right now, but yes, uh there are plans for that particular building. [1:43:20, 1:43:24]: Whether to um tear down or utilize it. [1:43:24, 1:43:26]: Um yeah. [1:43:26, 1:43:31]: Well, I was excited when they were talking about um making that the museum area. [1:43:31, 1:43:36]: Since um, you know, we had originally planned for the Main Street. [1:43:37, 1:43:37]: Um [1:43:38, 1:43:44]: office to be in the f old fire station and we were going to have a museum area there. So [1:43:44, 1:43:57]: Um, I was kind of excited when they said they were going to do the museum here since we're no longer able to be located in the fire station. But now that might change a little bit too. So we'll see what happens, but that just kind of gives you all. [1:43:58, 1:44:06]: Well, I'll be honest with I'll be honest with you, Ms. Bragg. I I never heard of that that concept of a of a museum in that building. I haven't I'm not familiar with that. [1:44:07, 1:44:12]: Oh, I had heard it and maybe that was just something that they were kind of tossing around. [1:44:13, 1:44:19]: In the early stages of it, but I don't know. Well originally uh the [1:44:20, 1:44:21]: Um [1:44:21, 1:44:25]: management company that would do all of the bookings, et cetera, et cetera. [1:44:25, 1:44:30]: Uh it was talked about utilizing that building for for that purpose. [1:44:30, 1:44:35]: Yeah, I had heard we'll call management and museum, so [1:44:35, 1:44:36]: Yeah, so [1:44:37, 1:44:52]: What several concepts have been, I guess ideas have been tossed around, but it looks like it's gonna go anyway. So um I think that the Uber and Lyft areas are very important. So if that's where they're planning to put it, I think that that would be a good move. [1:44:52, 1:44:53]: Yeah. [1:44:53, 1:45:08]: Okay, so um the other projects I'll send you all a written um update and you all can let me know if you have any questions, but everything is moving along. Um the numbers have been um given to [1:45:08, 1:45:18]: our city um manager and we're going to be selecting a contractor hopefully um very soon I have a meeting next week to kind of discuss that. [1:45:18, 1:45:26]: And they have um on the alleyway project, they have moved forward with getting the environmental um studies done. [1:45:26, 1:45:27]: So [1:45:28, 1:45:36]: Everything's moving along, and I'm very happy so far with um that pri progress, given the fact that we have the amphitheater project going on. [1:45:37, 1:45:38]: As well. [1:45:38, 1:45:40]: And let's see. Um [1:45:41, 1:45:49]: Mrs. Berger, if if I may add, I know it's been a concern and there's been questions since there's a void now of [1:45:50, 1:45:52]: Uh rental space. [1:45:52, 1:45:53]: Um [1:45:54, 1:45:58]: That there's a concern about availability of rental space for [1:45:59, 1:46:05]: Uh residents that may want a small venue. So I just wanted to indicate that the green room. [1:46:05, 1:46:23]: uh there at the um amphitheater will be utilized for for that purpose. So um must we will try to get that message out to everyone to know that that space will be available for citizens to be able to rent for some of those uh small venues. [1:46:23, 1:46:27]: Right. [1:46:29, 1:46:31]: Yes, that's true. Um [1:46:33, 1:46:39]: Okay. Um Barber has not joined us with regard to um a DDA report. [1:46:39, 1:46:41]: But I will um [1:46:42, 1:46:53]: Just let you I already told you that I'll be um attending the DDA meeting and we'll bring that um information um with regard to trying to schedule a joint meeting to them at that time. [1:46:53, 1:46:56]: Kara, give me Kira, give me the date again. I don't have my calendar. [1:46:57, 1:46:59]: Which day the D D A meeting. [1:47:00, 1:47:06]: It's next um Tuesday. Um that's the sixteenth. [1:47:06, 1:47:07]: Okay. [1:47:08, 1:47:08]: Okay. [1:47:10, 1:47:14]: All right. Um, and that concludes my report. [1:47:17, 1:47:20]: Thank you so much, Miss Braggs, for your report. [1:47:20, 1:47:25]: Um are there any additional questions for Miss Bryce? [1:47:26, 1:47:27]: Broken science. [1:47:29, 1:47:39]: Okay. Um Karen Nunn and Ashley stated. Oh sorry. Ms. Kieran, did you see my question to you regarding Facebook? [1:47:41, 1:47:42]: I did not. [1:47:42, 1:47:43]: Oh, I'm sorry. [1:47:44, 1:47:49]: Okay, I I was under the impression you wanted me to give an update on the Facebook campaigns, but in [1:47:51, 1:47:55]: Uh, realizing the time, I'm not sure if we still need to do that today. [1:47:55, 1:47:59]: Um we'll give that report at our next meeting just um as a um [1:47:59, 1:48:00]: A recap. [1:48:01, 1:48:02]: Okay. Okay, thanks. [1:48:05, 1:48:07]: Thank you, Ms. Mm-hmm. [1:48:08, 1:48:10]: Anything else or anyone else? [1:48:11, 1:48:13]: I guess we can just say um [1:48:14, 1:48:17]: Be sure to follow our Facebook. We've got some um [1:48:18, 1:48:25]: Local love campaign ads running and also some Black History Um Month ads running as well. [1:48:28, 1:48:30]: Okay, great. [1:48:31, 1:48:43]: Um with us not having a D D D A report um for today, are there any our final agenda item is announcements or concerns? Do we have any? [1:48:45, 1:48:46]: Yes, Mr. Hopkins. [1:48:46, 1:48:55]: Uh I just want to uh welcome Mr. Peterson to this uh Stockbridge family. Uh this is my first time meeting him, and uh hopefully uh [1:48:55, 1:49:03]: I'll get a chance to meet him in person when this pandemic over until we get into a neutral place. But I just want to welcome him to the to the city. I know he can do some outstanding things. [1:49:04, 1:49:06]: Thank you very much, and I'm I'm looking forward to it. [1:49:07, 1:49:12]: You know what? I just realized that Alan, this is the first time you all are seeing Alan. [1:49:13, 1:49:15]: He was at our meeting last month. [1:49:16, 1:49:26]: But we couldn't see him. We heard his voice, but we couldn't see him. So I'm sorry about that, Alan. I uh I that was my bad. [1:49:26, 1:49:39]: I should have introduced you, but everyone, this is Alan Peterson, our new um economic development director for the city of Stockbridge. And um Main Street staff will be reporting directly to Alan. [1:49:41, 1:49:52]: Yes, thank you, Miss Braggs. That was definitely on the list of things we were gonna bring up because we were like, okay, Mr. Peterson, introduce yourself, sir. But that's been covered. So thank you both. [1:49:53, 1:49:55]: For welcoming him and ensuring that we [1:49:55, 1:50:11]: identified his role and we are so happy to work with you and you know we cannot wait to have the economic development and the downtown development and Main Street all merge together and just continue to grow. We're very excited, very excited. [1:50:12, 1:50:14]: Any other announcements or concerns? [1:50:17, 1:50:30]: All right, hearing none, all hearts and minds are clear. We would love to ask for a motion to adjourn our meeting at 1046 a.m. today, uh February the 12th of 2021. [1:50:32, 1:50:37]: Madam Chair, I move that the uh Main Street Board uh adjoin. [1:50:38, 1:50:40]: Favorite. [1:50:41, 1:50:42]: I'll second it must there. [1:50:43, 1:50:53]: Yes, sir. Um we will at this point just ask if you would acknowledge that you are in favor of um the meeting adjourning by stating [1:50:54, 1:50:55]: Yes. [1:50:57, 1:50:59]: Or typing it in the chat. [1:51:00, 1:51:01]: Yes. [1:51:02, 1:51:05]: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. [1:51:06, 1:51:14]: Okay. Thank you all. And we would like to join our meeting and wish you a wonderful weekend again of love. [1:51:15, 1:51:26]: Hey, and thanks for your patience, everyone. And I'll be getting that committee, um, I'll be getting that committee invitation out and the update about our um downtown projects out to everybody as well. [1:51:26, 1:51:28]: So keep an eye on your email. [1:51:29, 1:51:33]: Thanks everybody. Thank you. Take care. [1:51:43, 1:51:45]: Hey, hey Ma hey, you have two [1:51:46, 1:51:46]:

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So [0:02:01, 0:02:04]: Th that's only one thing. It's all around my house. [0:02:07, 0:02:11]: And they hit you can imagine how bad the season was the last two or three years. [0:02:12, 0:02:13]: Hey, well, you know. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: They had nothing to brag about. [0:02:17, 0:02:21]: So take their needle, George take their needle, so. [0:02:26, 0:02:28]: They didn't have anything. I think they beat Florida State. [0:02:29, 0:02:31]: Well, you know. [0:02:33, 0:02:34]: Yeah, yeah, it's true. [0:02:36, 0:02:41]: I didn't see it, but I think they did. Yeah, I forgot about that. Oh yes, last minute. [0:02:42, 0:02:44]: Yeah. Mm-hmm. [0:02:47, 0:02:49]: Technician went crazy then. [0:02:51, 0:02:52]: Yeah, they did. [0:02:54, 0:02:57]: That's their rank, Florida State's rank. So yeah, that was a big win. [0:02:57, 0:02:58]: Mm-hmm. [0:03:01, 0:03:02]: Alrighty. [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: Good evening, everybody. [0:03:07, 0:03:10]: Councilman. Hi, how are you, Councilman Barber? How you doing? [0:03:58, 0:04:00]: I want to. [0:04:05, 0:04:05]: Yeah. [0:04:17, 0:04:19]: All right, cute girls. [0:07:27, 0:07:28]: Hello, hello, can you hear me? [0:07:32, 0:07:34]: Yes, we hear you. Hello, good evening. [0:07:35, 0:07:38]: It was so quiet I could hear a pen drop. [0:07:39, 0:07:44]: Like wait a minute, is something wrong? Can I nobody was making any noise? [0:07:46, 0:07:48]: No problem. We'll be all right. [0:07:48, 0:07:49]: Well [0:07:52, 0:07:54]: Oh, see Mr. Knighton. [0:07:56, 0:08:00]: Yeah, I remember back in the day I was watching this sponge ball with my son. [0:08:01, 0:08:02]: And he said it was three quiet. [0:08:03, 0:08:04]: Yeah, slightly. [0:08:05, 0:08:05]: Yeah. [0:08:06, 0:08:10]: It's not two quiet, it's three quiet. Oh my god. [0:08:25, 0:08:29]: I don't see Mr. Knighton. [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: There he is, he's connecting. [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: There he is. [0:08:42, 0:08:43]: Okay. [0:08:49, 0:08:50]: Good evening, everyone. [0:08:51, 0:08:51]: Even. [0:08:52, 0:08:53]: Yeah. [0:08:54, 0:08:55]: Hope you're feeling better. [0:08:56, 0:08:56]: Yeah. [0:08:59, 0:09:02]: Uh yeah, uh a little bit. [0:09:07, 0:09:07]: Oh. [0:09:13, 0:09:13]: Mm-hmm. [0:09:16, 0:09:20]: All right. A couple more minutes here. [0:09:49, 0:09:50]: Right. [0:10:08, 0:10:14]: We are now live on Facebook apparently, uh Mayor Ford, but uh just wanted to just wanted to inform everybody. [0:10:14, 0:10:15]: Appreciate that. [0:10:21, 0:10:35]: I tell you what, uh, let's go ahead and we have a quorum here, so let's go ahead and get started. I think it's about uh 559, but what's one minute, right? So on that note, I'd like to call this council meeting of February eighth, uh, two thousand twenty-one. [0:10:35, 0:10:36]: To order [0:10:37, 0:10:42]: And I'd like to ask the mayor pro tem uh uh Alexander to give the invocation. [0:10:43, 0:10:46]: Uh thank you, Mayor Ford. Would everyone bow your head, please? [0:10:47, 0:10:48]: Oh God. [0:10:48, 0:10:50]: Пліз, гев вас та віздом. [0:10:51, 0:10:52]: And guidance to make [0:10:53, 0:10:55]: Appropriate decisions for the vision. [0:10:56, 0:10:57]: Of the city of Stockbridge. [0:10:58, 0:11:00]: As each one of these leaders [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: Contemplate. [0:11:01, 0:11:02]: And sit at the table. [0:11:03, 0:11:05]: Given the charge by the public. [0:11:06, 0:11:07]: To put their interests first. [0:11:08, 0:11:10]: Let us always put that top of mind. [0:11:11, 0:11:13]: We know that you are the light. [0:11:13, 0:11:14]: And the way. [0:11:15, 0:11:16]: And we look to you. [0:11:16, 0:11:18]: And all the glory to you, Lord. [0:11:18, 0:11:19]: Because we know. [0:11:20, 0:11:21]: Every breath that we take. [0:11:22, 0:11:23]: Every meal that we ate. [0:11:24, 0:11:26]: And all the substance you provide for us. [0:11:26, 0:11:27]: Is all you? [0:11:28, 0:11:29]: During this time of covet [0:11:30, 0:11:33]: Please put your protecting, covering arms. [0:11:33, 0:11:35]: Over this community. [0:11:35, 0:11:36]: Than the world. [0:11:37, 0:11:38]: And let us all know. [0:11:39, 0:11:42]: No matter how dark or how bleak it may ever get. [0:11:42, 0:11:43]: That you sit on the throne. [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: And all the glory to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. [0:11:48, 0:11:49]: For all that you do. [0:11:49, 0:11:51]: All the glory to our God. [0:11:51, 0:11:52]: Amen. [0:11:52, 0:11:53]: Amen. [0:11:53, 0:11:54]: Amen. [0:11:55, 0:11:57]: Stand for the uh Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:11:58, 0:11:59]: [720.9, 725.3]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of United States of America. [0:12:05, 0:12:10]: And so the republic or witness to one nation. [0:12:10, 0:12:12]: Nation on divide. [0:12:12, 0:12:16]: Individual individual with liberty and justice for all. [0:12:16, 0:12:17]: Yeah. [0:12:19, 0:12:21]: Thank you. Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:12:22, 0:12:24]: You're Ford. [0:12:25, 0:12:26]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:12:27, 0:12:27]: Present. [0:12:28, 0:12:29]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:12:33, 0:12:34]: That's in [0:12:37, 0:12:38]: Councilman Blount. [0:12:38, 0:12:39]: Present. [0:12:40, 0:12:41]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:12:41, 0:12:42]: Present. [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: Councilman. [0:12:44, 0:12:45]: Thomas. [0:12:46, 0:12:46]: President. [0:12:48, 0:12:49]: Mayor Ford, we have a quorum. [0:12:50, 0:12:54]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: Wherefore [0:12:55, 0:12:56]: Sir. [0:12:56, 0:12:58]: I'd like to amend the agenda. [0:13:00, 0:13:00]: Okay. [0:13:01, 0:13:05]: I'd like to add an item uh concerning the bonding of [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: Public safety and Stockbridge Police Department. [0:13:09, 0:13:15]: I would like that item to be placed uh immediately after uh the address from [0:13:15, 0:13:22]: Uh new Henry County Sheriff Scandrick. Sheriff Skandrick will be speaking on overall public safety. [0:13:22, 0:13:27]: For Henry County, he will not be speaking on the Stockbridge Police Department. [0:13:27, 0:13:29]: Uh, this council will have that discussion. [0:13:29, 0:13:31]: Uh over this bond issue. [0:13:32, 0:13:33]: Is there a second for the motion? [0:13:36, 0:13:39]: Is there a second for the motion? [0:13:39, 0:13:40]: Okay. [0:13:41, 0:13:44]: Councilman Barber, second that motion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:13:47, 0:13:49]: Okay, all pose. [0:13:52, 0:13:54]: Anybody opposes? Sustain. [0:13:57, 0:14:02]: I've I only got her four eye I believe a four four eyes. Is there there's someone missing, I believe. [0:14:03, 0:14:05]: Mayor, my volume is acting up. You said [0:14:06, 0:14:14]: The motion is to do what what is the motion for? In reference to uh having talking having some discussion about bonding for a a police department. [0:14:15, 0:14:20]: And have that after the presentation from uh chair, Reginald Skandrick. [0:14:21, 0:14:26]: Okay. That's fine. Okay. So that's it's a unanimous decision. Okay. Fantastic. [0:14:27, 0:14:30]: Five zero, um, Miss Holiday. [0:14:30, 0:14:36]: Adoption I have it. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Adoption of the minutes. December 14th council meeting. [0:14:37, 0:14:49]: the December 22nd council work session and then we had a special call meeting on the 29th of uh December. So no changes if to any of that, then I need a motion to adopt those uh those actual minutes of those meetings. [0:14:50, 0:14:55]: So move. Okay. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem so moved to sec is there a second? [0:14:58, 0:14:58]: Is there a second? [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: I second. [0:15:01, 0:15:05]: Half from uh Gantt, uh all flavor, please indicate. [0:15:08, 0:15:10]: Okay for some okay. [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: I'm assuming that was in the house. Let me do something here. [0:15:14, 0:15:16]: Common Blood, I did not see your vote. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: Thank you. [0:15:18, 0:15:19]: Right, so it's unanimous, okay. [0:15:21, 0:15:23]: Madam Furt, do we have any public comments at all? [0:15:25, 0:15:26]: There are no public comments. [0:15:26, 0:15:31]: Okay, on that note, then I will go into the ceremonial portion of our meeting. [0:15:32, 0:15:35]: And I have two proclamations to read. [0:15:36, 0:15:38]: If I can get these here. [0:15:38, 0:15:44]: All right. The first proclamation is reference to Zeta Fad Beta Sawardi Incorporated. [0:15:45, 0:16:03]: Whereas on January 16, 2021, Z5 Beta Swordy Incorporated celebrated 100 years, one excuse me, 101 years of service to communities around the globe, having been founded on the campus of Howard University on January 16, 1920, in Washington, DC. [0:16:03, 0:16:08]: With the principles of scholarship, service, sisterhood, and finer womanhood. [0:16:08, 0:16:17]: And whereas Sigma Omega Zeta chapter was charted in Clayton County on March 14, 2003, by Brandy Blackman, Tiffany Caldwell. [0:16:18, 0:16:19]: Sherry Canon. [0:16:19, 0:16:22]: Jalina Cannon, the computers. [0:16:22, 0:16:23]: Kornisia Harbor. [0:16:24, 0:16:44]: Kathy Hayes, Latasha James, Tiana Manuel Matthews, Lisa Matthews, Natasha Reynolds, Mishesha O'Web, and Zeta Fi Beta Sawarty is a community conscious action-oriented organization and calls all Zetas to action, social action at the local, state, [0:16:44, 0:16:45]: [1006.5, 1013.4]: Zeta Fibeta Sawadi conducts its programs and services under an umbrella of Zeta's helping other people excel. [0:16:53, 0:16:55]: That are known as Z Hope. [0:16:55, 0:17:06]: A holistic multidimensional outreach program designed to cultivate and empower participants to develop healthy lifestyles, choices, and components of mind, body, and spirit. [0:17:07, 0:17:11]: And it's specific to women, youth, seniors, men, and international women of color. [0:17:11, 0:17:14]: And Zeta Fly Beta Swordy volunteers their time. [0:17:15, 0:17:21]: and service and encourages people to do good deeds for others without asking for anything in return. [0:17:21, 0:17:26]: Zeta Five Beta Sword Incorporated Sigma Omega Zeta chapter of Clayton County. [0:17:26, 0:17:29]: Georgia has demonstrated and leads by example. [0:17:29, 0:17:32]: And z where a Zeta Five Beta Sword Incorporated. [0:17:32, 0:17:36]: The Sigma Omega Zeta chapter of Clayton County, Georgia serves Henry County. [0:17:37, 0:17:51]: And truly exemplifies their founding principles of scholarship, service, sisterhood, and final womanhood, including educational surrounding the importance of community outreach, the promotion of healthy lifestyles, and engaging in voter advocacy. [0:17:51, 0:18:11]: And whereas Zeta 5 Beta SWARTY has had a significant and consistent impact on the city of Stockbridge in Henry County for the past 18 years, with the ladies of the Sigma Omega Zeta chaptering with partnering with various nonprofit organizations to donate clothing, empowering our youth, serve our elder population and donor. [0:18:11, 0:18:14]: Donate school supplies to local schools. [0:18:14, 0:18:20]: Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtual authority, vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:18:20, 0:18:25]: And on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt. [0:18:25, 0:18:45]: And Afonso Thomas to hereby recognize the 101st anniversary of Zeta Fibe Sawardi Incorporated and honor and commend 18 years of the reply service of their proven community partnership, dedication for positive change, and continuing to remain steadfast in the commitment to empower, uplift, and serve. [0:18:45, 0:19:05]: the residents of the city of Stockbridge. In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on this eighth day of February in the year of our Lord 2021. And I signed the proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. Congratulations, Adafine Beta Swordy. [0:19:07, 0:19:14]: And my second proclamation uh comes from excerpts from the 2021 statement from President Joseph R. Biden. [0:19:15, 0:19:18]: Black History Month, know the past, shape the future. [0:19:19, 0:19:30]: President City Stockbridge is guided by principles of inclusiveness in its commitment to help improve the lives of all individuals in the diverse community we serve. [0:19:30, 0:19:40]: Whereas the founding of what is known as Association for the Study of African-American Life and History, a Harvard-trained historian. [0:19:40, 0:19:49]: Carter G. Woodson helped establish Negro History Week, which later became nationally recognized as Black History Month by every president since 1976. [0:19:50, 0:19:56]: Whereas Black History Month is an opportunity to reflect on the struggle for freedom and equality in the US. [0:19:57, 0:20:06]: And whereas Black History Month allows our community to unite and celebrate the many achievements by Black Americans and other people of African descent. [0:20:06, 0:20:20]: And whereas a knee on the neck of justice opened the eyes of millions of Americans that launched a summer of protests and stirred a nation's conscience, and whereas a pandemic has further ripped a path of destruction through every community in America. [0:20:21, 0:20:36]: What we see is acute devastation among Black Americans who are dying, losing jobs, and closing businesses at a disapportionate rate in the dual pandemic and economic crisis. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:20:37, 0:20:45]: And on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Nikisha Gann, and Afonso Thomas do hereby proclaim February 2021. [0:20:46, 0:20:53]: It's Black History Month and invite the staff and the community to help uh uh help further efforts of equality through education and [0:20:53, 0:21:07]: I have hereunto set my hand, the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of February in the year of our Lord 2021, and I signed this proclamation along with our clip Vanessa Holiday. Outstanding. [0:21:09, 0:21:14]: On that note, uh Elsta absolutely else standing. On that note, uh [0:21:15, 0:21:30]: Uh we have a presentation by our Henry County Sheriff, which uh is Mr. Reginald Skandrick, which in sense of uh African American history is the first African American to be Henry County Sheriff, so he's made history himself. [0:21:31, 0:21:38]: So I'm happy to have you with us today during this proper time of African American Black History Month to give us a presentation, sir. Really appreciate you being here. [0:21:39, 0:21:42]: It's an honor certainly to be here with you guys today. [0:21:42, 0:21:52]: Um I sort of don't take this opportunity or any opportunity given some of these challenges that we're going through today, uh, in this country and globally for granted, uh this time. [0:21:52, 0:21:52]: Yeah. [0:21:53, 0:21:55]: Uh do I just dump jump right in the mirror? [0:21:55, 0:21:57]: Yes, sir. You have the floor. [0:21:58, 0:22:18]: All right, well, it it's it's an honor to be um and and people are calling me and and and during this season saying they congratulations on being the first African American sheriff. And that is a complete honor for me, but it's certainly an honor to be qualified uh to be in this position as well. And so that's certainly an honor for me, and it's particularly during this season. And during this season, we have tremendous change. [0:22:18, 0:22:21]: Challenges relative to law enforcement and the community. [0:22:22, 0:22:27]: And that was one of the platforms that we wanted to try to jump into and to try to take care of immediately. [0:22:27, 0:22:32]: on the relationship between law enforcement and the community. [0:22:32, 0:22:44]: And one of the ways that we attacked that initially was to create a division that specialized just and focused in on just on the concerns of law enforcement in the community. [0:22:44, 0:22:49]: And what I wanted to do more specifically is look at some of the challenges that we had. [0:22:50, 0:22:51]: From a real lifting perspective. [0:22:52, 0:22:56]: And to be able to sit down with those things, dissect those things. [0:22:57, 0:23:03]: sit down in various communities and go back to the twenty first century ways of policing. [0:23:04, 0:23:13]: Or the old school ways of policing, let me say that, and be able to sit down with people eye to eye and and with at at their residence and say, How can we help you suffer less? [0:23:14, 0:23:17]: What are some of the concerns that you see that we have not seen? [0:23:18, 0:23:26]: And what's some of the things that we can do collectively moving forward to order to one, to heal, and then two, to address them appropriately. [0:23:26, 0:23:35]: We're gonna go back to an old school way of of policing, an old school way of of that the sheriff should be or used to be years ago in getting involved, um [0:23:36, 0:23:56]: intimately with the communities and the concerns that they may have. We have a lot of them on the table relative to excessive force and use of force issues and the way that it is deemed that police officers overall or deputy sheriffs overall have dealt with communities at large, which overall is not [0:23:56, 0:23:56]: That's true. [0:23:57, 0:24:04]: And I said that to say because we have tremendous men and women that done the blue and brown uniform each and every day. [0:24:04, 0:24:06]: But it's often times that we get [0:24:07, 0:24:09]: Looked at and summarized by the actions of a few. [0:24:10, 0:24:14]: And that's going to be incumbent upon us in leadership to make sure that we look at those actions. [0:24:15, 0:24:35]: Uh if one person goes wrong, that's one too many. If one person goes over with respect to use of force issues or treat people inhumanely, that's one too many. And it's incumbent upon us in leadership to make sure that we see those issues, deal with those issues, and be transparent with respect to those issues and make sure that as we move forward. [0:24:35, 0:24:38]: Да ви мвфор і на гіл на холістик аспект. [0:24:39, 0:24:45]: And make sure that we hear from those progressively and we move forward. We can only do that as we sit down with each community. [0:24:45, 0:24:56]: create a very robust strategic plan in terms of what our needs are, what our goals are, what our missions are. And we want to make sure we start off with what's called SMART goals. [0:24:56, 0:25:01]: And the SMART goals are specific, measurable, attainable, realistic, and timely goals. [0:25:02, 0:25:12]: that we know that we can touch tangibly and collectively with the community and make sure we walk those things out collectively. Uh people quite frankly are tired of talking. [0:25:13, 0:25:15]: Uh people are [0:25:16, 0:25:19]: And it's important to press those open. [0:25:19, 0:25:20]: Number. [0:25:20, 0:25:23]: Yeah, yeah. [0:25:23, 0:25:26]: We do that, I think we'll start we'll start the [0:25:26, 0:25:26]: Yeah. [0:25:27, 0:25:29]: Uh next uh name. [0:25:29, 0:25:32]: That's your area, and here and here area, and here and here we come. [0:25:33, 0:25:34]: I certainly want to make sure [0:25:34, 0:25:37]: Yeah, struggle to make sure. [0:25:37, 0:25:43]: Is a uh that the uh that the other county become other [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: Reference. [0:25:45, 0:26:02]: And in addition to that, if we do that, I think we can also be an example for the states. And I said the word states because we have 50 of them, but we've we've lost the w the the word united. Um and if we if we put that word united back together, that's gonna take a considerable amount of work. [0:26:03, 0:26:12]: that we sit down and put that back together break by break in order to build this bridge that's been imploding uh has been imploded between law enforcement and the community. [0:26:12, 0:26:17]: That is our my laser focus. Uh we I've put together a tremendous team relative to that. [0:26:18, 0:26:22]: Um there's some concerns that we found, but there's nothing that we cannot [0:26:22, 0:26:24]: Deal with and address appropriately. [0:26:25, 0:26:28]: As we try to uh heal this land of ball starting with Henry County. [0:26:29, 0:26:30]: And that's pretty much where we are. [0:26:30, 0:26:32]: Questions, comments, concerns? [0:26:33, 0:26:36]: ideas relative to the community and law enforcement collectively. [0:26:38, 0:26:38]: But [0:26:41, 0:26:43]: Thank you, Mir. First of all. [0:26:43, 0:26:55]: And now I'm unmuted. Okay. I will say first of all that I I appreciate you and look forward to uh many, many years of success for you in the county as you continue to lead the charge in your department. [0:26:55, 0:27:02]: And without a doubt, I think you're the right man for the job. And uh so did a whole lot of other people in this aspect. And I know you're gonna do great for us all. [0:27:02, 0:27:11]: And that's just my initial comment, but I look forward to further dialogue with you over the course of many years. Comments, Council, for uh questions. Uh Councilman Blount, go right in, please. [0:27:16, 0:27:17]: You're muted, sir. [0:27:20, 0:27:21]: Can you hear me now? [0:27:21, 0:27:22]: Go right here, yes, we can. [0:27:23, 0:27:27]: Yeah, first of all I want to say thank you, uh Cheryl Scandret for coming today. Um [0:27:27, 0:27:45]: You you've definitely shown us a beacon of light when it comes to uh law enforcement in Henry County. I've seen you reach across the aisle uh and reached across races, and I've seen you reach across different uh ethnic and and just different groups, and I've seen the support uh there and I've seen your commitment. [0:27:45, 0:28:00]: to bringing this community together. And uh we're looking for great things from uh you and the the uh the sheriff department with Henry County. And I just want to say uh um God bless you and I wish you uh all the success that uh comes along with uh with the vision that you have for the county. [0:28:01, 0:28:04]: Thank you, sir. Humbled by that. Thank you so much. [0:28:05, 0:28:09]: Any other questions or comments for there? Uh Councilwoman Barber, please. Go ahead. [0:28:11, 0:28:21]: I asked Sheriff Scandron, I know that there is a difference between the police department and the responsibilities of the Sheriff's Department. [0:28:21, 0:28:33]: Can you tell me what the plans or goals are to work together with the police department and sheriff's department and what impact the community should see? [0:28:33, 0:28:34]: Come of that. [0:28:35, 0:28:53]: Yes, well well, we want to make sure that there that the the various police departments that we have here, that we work together as one. It's important that we do that, that we on the same page of music playing the same song. But in order to do that, we got to make sure we understand what the agenda is, what the mission is, and then begin to dissect it from there. [0:28:54, 0:29:06]: Oftentimes people don't know the difference between the sheriff and police departments. And I will put that in fundamental terms, uh, that basically the police department deals with the crime, the sheriff deals with the person. [0:29:06, 0:29:20]: Um uh we're not full service here in terms of the sheriff's office taking care of all the uh the police functions. It's only about eleven counties in out of 159 that has that, Henry County is one. [0:29:20, 0:29:40]: But the fact of the matter is that when a person is dealt with by the police department, that person is brought to the jail. That's the sheriff's office function. Uh that person is typically brought a take uh took to the courts after that. That's the sheriff's office function. Um, and also we deal with the warrants and the rips and things of that nature as well. So the person [0:29:40, 0:29:43]: From a holistic perspective, that's is the sheriff's function. [0:29:44, 0:29:46]: From a constitutional perspective. [0:29:46, 0:29:48]: Uh it is important that we work together. [0:29:49, 0:30:02]: In terms of what we're doing, there's not one person that I have met around this county that does not want to be safe. And that's one of the things we're gonna be doing with my mission as well, is putting together various task force that deal with crime in real time. [0:30:02, 0:30:19]: Uh we have the power to do that. We're certainly going to support the police department and what they do, but if there's some issues relative to stock bridge, we're going to attack stockbridge and make sure that we are looking at that community, what the issues are that are plaguing it and make sure we deal with that specifically in post-haste. [0:30:20, 0:30:37]: relative to that. So that's the fundamental difference between the police and law enforc I mean I and the sheriff's office. Uh yes we're gonna work together. Uh I don't believe anything that's short of uh uh of one vision is division. Uh and we certainly don't want that we would not tolerate that in Henry County. That if that existed before that day has changed. [0:30:37, 0:30:39]: Uh and we're gonna certainly move together as one. [0:30:40, 0:30:42]: Miraportam Alexander, go ahead, please. [0:30:44, 0:30:45]: You move to Sir. [0:30:46, 0:30:51]: Sor sorry about that. Uh thank you, Sheriff Scandard. I appreciate you accepting the invite to come. [0:30:52, 0:30:58]: And address us uh as well. So thank you. Talk about uh if you would [0:30:58, 0:31:00]: Uh your overall uh vision [0:31:01, 0:31:03]: uh for public safety [0:31:03, 0:31:05]: And in terms of the growth. [0:31:06, 0:31:08]: And uh secondarily to that. [0:31:09, 0:31:11]: Uh in your assessment of [0:31:11, 0:31:12]: You're [0:31:13, 0:31:21]: department right now in terms of manpower and what you actually need to get to where you're going to. [0:31:22, 0:31:25]: Well in my previous job that there is [0:31:26, 0:31:35]: levels of thinking relative to law enforcement depending on where you reside and where your county is. And uh Henry County is one of the fastest growing counties in the nation. [0:31:35, 0:31:51]: Uh, and it's important that we have a small town feel with the big town thoughts and and thinking process. In order to do that, we have to have twenty-first century ways of thinking about what we do, in particular to respect the public safety. [0:31:51, 0:32:02]: Uh I don't think we're there yet, uh quite frankly. But uh we have the potential to get there. Uh, but we're gonna have to answer the tough questions to do that. We're gonna have to make sure we have the support to do that. [0:32:02, 0:32:04]: Uh, quite frankly, I have heard. [0:32:05, 0:32:10]: that uh people are saying and and very strong positions that they support public safety. [0:32:10, 0:32:24]: Uh across the board, I have not seen that across the board. I've heard words across the board, quite frankly, but I have not seen that. Uh the public safety here, I think, uh are in strong needs of funding. Uh they're in strong needs of of bagging. [0:32:24, 0:32:30]: Uh then strong needs of people, the right type of people, and then the strong need of equipment. [0:32:31, 0:32:48]: Um uh for an example, you see some of the the the police department and the sheriff's office driving around in Crown Vicks with three hundred and four hundred thousand miles on them. They don't make Crown VIX anymore. Um so if there's a supportive measure afloat relative to supporting public safety, we need that to happen from [0:32:50, 0:33:04]: quite quick I'm very quickly uh from a leadership perspective across the county in positions that can do just that so that we can move forward and get into the 21st century way of policing right here in Henry County, particularly since we're growing so fast. [0:33:04, 0:33:07]: uh in in this county and in the state of Georgia. [0:33:08, 0:33:15]: Thank thank you. Just let if you need anything from us, please know that we're we're here for you. So please uh let us know how we can support you. [0:33:16, 0:33:20]: Yes, sir. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Casmant Tom, please, sir. [0:33:20, 0:33:24]: Thank you. Uh Mr Skandrick, Sheriff Skandrick, thank you again for coming. [0:33:25, 0:33:28]: Um, I wanted to take this opportunity, as many of you know. [0:33:28, 0:33:34]: Uh, we just celebrated our tenth annual African American Heritage Celebration. [0:33:34, 0:33:38]: Um and the committee, as you know, um [0:33:39, 0:33:43]: Um, selected you uh to receive [0:33:43, 0:33:46]: Um the visionary [0:33:46, 0:33:50]: Award from the heritage um committee. [0:33:50, 0:33:52]: Um we we did not [0:33:53, 0:33:55]: Focus on you being African American. [0:33:56, 0:34:00]: Um I followed your platform during your campaign. [0:34:00, 0:34:03]: And one of the things that that uh [0:34:03, 0:34:05]: Stood out for me and I think [0:34:05, 0:34:08]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander just hit on about [0:34:09, 0:34:10]: Uh your vision. [0:34:10, 0:34:13]: Uh your new innovative [0:34:13, 0:34:14]: Approach [0:34:14, 0:34:15]: uh to police and [0:34:16, 0:34:17]: Uh here in Henry County. [0:34:17, 0:34:20]: And that was one of the things that drove us to [0:34:21, 0:34:21]: Um [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: To to [0:34:23, 0:34:26]: I guess recognize you uh in that vein. [0:34:27, 0:34:32]: Um and I'm familiar with your platform and I I just want to just congratulate you. [0:34:32, 0:34:36]: I own that vision and on uh expressing that vision. [0:34:36, 0:34:39]: And so uh as you know, uh later this month. [0:34:40, 0:34:42]: Uh we will be um [0:34:42, 0:34:56]: awarding you with a visionary uh award um for your vision as as you have uh laid it out uh in henry county. So again, I just want to thank you for that. And let me also say that [0:34:57, 0:34:59]: Uh this award is not [0:34:59, 0:35:01]: Always a necessary [0:35:01, 0:35:06]: uh for your vision, but it also stands as [0:35:06, 0:35:09]: Um an encouragement e motivation. [0:35:10, 0:35:13]: Uh when we present and when we pat folks on the back. [0:35:13, 0:35:16]: Uh, we're also uh encouraging and motivated. [0:35:16, 0:35:19]: And I think that's what we need a little bit more of. [0:35:19, 0:35:23]: Uh especially folks in um elected office. [0:35:23, 0:35:43]: uh to stay focused and to stay motivated and to uh be encouraged uh to to move forward. And so I just again I just want to thank you uh for that uh focus that you have laid out as for a division for the sheriff department here in Henry County and um the committee will be in touch. [0:35:43, 0:35:45]: So again, I just want to thank you. [0:35:46, 0:35:59]: Thank you, sir. I'm certainly humble by that. And um I I c I cannot be more grateful than thankful uh with respect to that. And I and there's an old cliche that says uh to much is given, much is required. Uh and I certainly take that um uh [0:35:59, 0:36:08]: Take that seriously in terms of what we've been sworn to do, what we've been elected to do. Uh, and there are people here to the tune of 240,000. [0:36:08, 0:36:11]: Plus here in Henry County that is that have been waiting on [0:36:12, 0:36:16]: Us to take our rightful positions in these seats and make sure that they [0:36:16, 0:36:29]: do not have to go through progressive changes and issues because we sit in these seats and we represent them the right way. And if that and if an award comes from that, then so be it. Thank you so much for that. But it should be a calling that's ordained. [0:36:30, 0:36:37]: uh even before we were uh we were born, quite frankly, in terms of what we do. So people have been waiting for that for quite some time. And I'm just honored to be a point. [0:36:38, 0:36:39]: Uh that'll be conserved. [0:36:40, 0:36:41]: Thank you. [0:36:41, 0:36:43]: Any other comments from the council at all? [0:36:44, 0:36:46]: And if not, Sheriff Scandri. [0:36:47, 0:36:48]: I'm sorry, Ms. Kent. Is that you? [0:36:49, 0:36:54]: Yes. So Sheriff, I just want to thank you and welcome you to um [0:36:54, 0:37:03]: Henry County. I know you've been here, but in the position as sheriff. And um, we look forward to working with you. So I just wanted to say thank you so much. [0:37:04, 0:37:06]: Thank you so much. I certainly appreciate that. That means the world. [0:37:06, 0:37:07]: Thank you. [0:37:07, 0:37:20]: Okay, if there are no more uh no more comments, fantastic. Um Sheriff Scandard, really appreciate you being with us today in the presentation that you've given, your insight and your vision. Look forward to a great work and relationship for many, many years to come. [0:37:20, 0:37:26]: And God bless you, sir. And uh on that note, you're welcome to stay as long as you like, but we're gonna move on to our next topic. All right. [0:37:27, 0:37:29]: Thank you so much. Appreciate it. [0:37:30, 0:37:30]: Too long. [0:37:31, 0:37:51]: All right, so first thing up on agenda deals with the added uh item uh dealing with uh bonding in reference to uh future police department. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, you brought this issue up and um I'm pretty sure it's going to involve uh conversation not with the council but with the city manager and Mr. Ed Wall in that aspect. But go ahead, sir, Mayor Pro. [0:37:51, 0:37:53]: Protengo you start the conversation off and then we'll [0:37:54, 0:37:55]: We'll uh have other folks chime in. [0:37:56, 0:37:56]: Point. [0:37:59, 0:38:02]: Uh thank you so much, Mayor Ford. I certainly appreciate it. [0:38:02, 0:38:05]: And uh it was so fitting that Sheriff Scandrick [0:38:06, 0:38:15]: was able to present tonight. Uh I have so much confidence in uh where we're trying to go in the direction that uh he represents uh in this county. [0:38:16, 0:38:19]: I I just want to pick up on the words that he said. [0:38:19, 0:38:22]: А твані ф центри апроч. [0:38:23, 0:38:24]: to what we're doing. [0:38:24, 0:38:33]: I I I wish it was the first time that I had heard that we had officers riding around in cars with 300 and 400,000 miles. [0:38:34, 0:38:35]: But it's not. [0:38:35, 0:38:40]: In 2014, I went to a the to the Henry County Commissioners meeting. [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: Reformer Chief Nichols. [0:38:42, 0:38:43]: Who was literally begging? [0:38:44, 0:38:44]: Фор [0:38:45, 0:38:49]: Replacements where officers would go out and they would be dispatched. [0:38:49, 0:38:50]: uh in the community. [0:38:51, 0:38:57]: And they would be going at high rates of speed and uh and on a hope and a prayer that that car would stop. [0:38:58, 0:39:00]: Биказ ощусі з дис. [0:39:01, 0:39:06]: Subsequent to that, there were some monies raised and there was a splice brought forward that purchased [0:39:07, 0:39:09]: Uh some police cars for the police department. [0:39:10, 0:39:13]: But as we know, uh during that time in twenty fourteen. [0:39:14, 0:39:15]: We probably had about [0:39:15, 0:39:18]: Two hundred and eight, two hundred and nine thousand people in the county. [0:39:19, 0:39:22]: We have two nearly two hundred and forty thousand. [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: And seven to eight thousand people are moving to Henry County. [0:39:26, 0:39:28]: Every single year. [0:39:29, 0:39:33]: As we know, Stockbridge is the largest city. [0:39:33, 0:39:34]: In Henry County. [0:39:35, 0:39:38]: Yeah, we're the only ones without a police department. [0:39:39, 0:39:40]: Too often. [0:39:40, 0:39:43]: As I said, just over the weekend and I don't know if you I shared it. [0:39:44, 0:39:45]: With some of you. [0:39:45, 0:39:47]: That uh just in my neighborhood. [0:39:48, 0:39:52]: uh over the weekend there was a ring video that went viral. [0:39:52, 0:40:04]: It uh is all over next door and or social media where there were young men literally roaming the neighborhood, going into cars, taking items out of those cars, stealing. [0:40:05, 0:40:08]: That has is been pervasive in the k in the community. [0:40:08, 0:40:11]: And I saw it in my very own community. [0:40:11, 0:40:12]: Thankfully. [0:40:12, 0:40:13]: I was not a victim. [0:40:14, 0:40:15]: But there were several victims. [0:40:16, 0:40:17]: Uh no. [0:40:17, 0:40:19]: One victim had a gun. [0:40:19, 0:40:20]: That was stolen from them. [0:40:21, 0:40:23]: Those are the kind of things [0:40:23, 0:40:26]: That a local police department could surely impact. [0:40:27, 0:40:29]: I understand that the city [0:40:29, 0:40:31]: Of Hampton has a police department. [0:40:32, 0:40:34]: I understand the city of Locust Grove. [0:40:34, 0:40:36]: has a police department. [0:40:36, 0:40:40]: I understand the city of McDonough has a police department. [0:40:41, 0:40:45]: Surely the city of Stockbridge, the great city that we are. [0:40:45, 0:40:50]: And the reason that I wanted this item put first at the top of the agenda. [0:40:50, 0:40:53]: We're getting ready to vote on some historic items. [0:40:53, 0:40:55]: It involved bunding. [0:40:55, 0:40:57]: But make no mistake about it. [0:40:58, 0:40:59]: No item. [0:40:59, 0:41:00]: Not one of them. [0:41:01, 0:41:02]: Is more important. [0:41:02, 0:41:03]: than public safety. [0:41:04, 0:41:09]: We want vi I personally want this item to be first. [0:41:09, 0:41:16]: the first bond in the series as we attempt tonight to move in a historic ways. [0:41:16, 0:41:18]: Moving the city of Stark Ridge ahead. [0:41:19, 0:41:22]: To a solid foundation for generations to come. [0:41:24, 0:41:25]: I understand. [0:41:25, 0:41:28]: That the federal government is about to inject. [0:41:28, 0:41:33]: One point nine trillion dollars into our economy. [0:41:34, 0:41:36]: When they do that, the congressional budget office. [0:41:37, 0:41:39]: has estimated that it was [0:41:39, 0:41:40]: Take it like [0:41:41, 0:41:43]: An accelerant is going to [0:41:44, 0:41:49]: Get put the uh economy in overdrive, growing at nearly five percent. [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: What will happen based on [0:41:52, 0:41:55]: that infusion of cash into the community. [0:41:56, 0:41:58]: Interest rates will increase. [0:42:00, 0:42:03]: Even more impor even more imposing than that. [0:42:04, 0:42:06]: then interest rates is inflation. [0:42:07, 0:42:12]: Once that money hits the economy and the spending levels go up. [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: Is skyrocket. [0:42:14, 0:42:16]: What's gonna happen? Prices are gonna go up. [0:42:18, 0:42:20]: The prices of the police cars would go up. [0:42:20, 0:42:22]: The prices of any type of [0:42:22, 0:42:25]: building that we would need to do any type of material. [0:42:25, 0:42:28]: Everything is gonna go up because of [0:42:28, 0:42:30]: Inflationary pressures. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: With the economy in overdrive. [0:42:33, 0:42:39]: We understand what's gonna happen. When that money hits the account, people are going to spend it. [0:42:39, 0:42:42]: And we we focus on interest rates a lot of times. [0:42:43, 0:42:44]: And the interest rates will increase. [0:42:45, 0:42:48]: I will simply say I was listening to the president speak. [0:42:48, 0:42:55]: Uh, over the weekend. No matter what your party affiliation is, I watched all the presidents. President Trump, when he spoke, I watched that too. [0:42:55, 0:42:58]: But something pretty much struck me. [0:42:58, 0:43:02]: When президент Байден ся ви нетюко біг, ви нетюкол. [0:43:02, 0:43:04]: And there's no time to wait. [0:43:04, 0:43:06]: Because if we do wait. [0:43:06, 0:43:09]: With interest rates being at historic lows. [0:43:09, 0:43:11]: They will increase. [0:43:11, 0:43:15]: Іскуна косте федерал гавермент більш долар. [0:43:15, 0:43:21]: But surely it will cost us hundreds of thousands, not just in uh interest rate increases, but [0:43:21, 0:43:25]: And inflationary pressures and increases as well. [0:43:25, 0:43:34]: Cause as we know, with seven to eight thousand people moving to Henry County each and every year, okay, as a realtor, I'll tell you, it's hard to find a house out there. [0:43:34, 0:43:36]: Housing prices have skyrocketed. [0:43:38, 0:43:40]: Everything is moving up. [0:43:41, 0:43:44]: As I saw the financial numbers and I think the treasure [0:43:44, 0:43:47]: Uh, Mr. Wiggins for providing them for us. [0:43:47, 0:43:49]: Even in extraordinary [0:43:50, 0:43:52]: Economic times. [0:43:52, 0:43:56]: His projection, which of course is not is an unaudited projection. [0:43:57, 0:44:00]: Calls for nearly one point three million dollars surplus. [0:44:01, 0:44:06]: being generated by the city of Stockbridge because of stewardship of of city finances. [0:44:07, 0:44:10]: And making sure that we spend these dollars wisely. [0:44:10, 0:44:14]: But I say that there's a nice calling out in the community. [0:44:15, 0:44:20]: From the moment that I ran for office, I heard we need a stopbridge police department. [0:44:21, 0:44:27]: From the moment I turn on social media to any group, I hear we need a stop ridge police department. [0:44:27, 0:44:30]: From the moment I went to the twenty fourteen. [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: Henry County. [0:44:33, 0:44:35]: Commissioners meeting to beg for [0:44:35, 0:44:38]: Реінфорсменсь и моніфової департамен. [0:44:39, 0:44:43]: The first thing they said to me was, Sir, you live in Stockbridge. I wasn't certain on the city council then. [0:44:43, 0:44:48]: They said, you live in Stockbridge. Why why isn't Stockbridge have a police department to be able to help us out? [0:44:50, 0:44:54]: And I said, you know, I didn't know the answer to that at twenty fourteen. I didn't know why. [0:44:54, 0:45:02]: And I said, you know what, I will seek that. But in the t in the meantime, these officers can't be out here risking their life because of inadequate equipment. [0:45:03, 0:45:04]: And outdated. [0:45:05, 0:45:05]: Um [0:45:07, 0:45:09]: outdated materials and uh [0:45:10, 0:45:13]: You know, when you get in your car, you expect your s your computer to work. [0:45:13, 0:45:22]: But we had people at that time that were using old dot matrix systems, if you know what that is, which is 90s technology. [0:45:22, 0:45:28]: And I I will bet it in some a we got so many outdated technologies uh in our area. [0:45:29, 0:45:32]: But I I would just uh close by saying a few items, which is [0:45:33, 0:45:35]: We talked about the Startbridge Police Department. [0:45:36, 0:45:37]: During the city retreat. [0:45:38, 0:45:43]: We talked about the Stockbridge City Police Department at many city council meetings. [0:45:44, 0:45:48]: We got an earful about the Stockbridge Police Department. [0:45:49, 0:45:49]: Uh uh. [0:45:50, 0:45:50]: Candidate [0:45:51, 0:45:52]: Forum. [0:45:52, 0:45:58]: Many of the candidates, many of the s several of us sitting here right now were reelected. [0:45:59, 0:46:00]: Initially we [0:46:01, 0:46:03]: Kinda what some of us I know I was for. [0:46:04, 0:46:07]: We're weren't quite so passionate about the Stockbridge Police Department. [0:46:08, 0:46:10]: But what we did was we listened. [0:46:11, 0:46:15]: We listened and we paid attention to what the people want. [0:46:16, 0:46:17]: The people elected us. [0:46:17, 0:46:20]: And said we want a police department. [0:46:20, 0:46:22]: We had a town hall. [0:46:22, 0:46:27]: Just last month, overwhelmingly, you know not not one person spoke out against it. [0:46:28, 0:46:31]: Everybody wanted to see the Startbridge Police Department. [0:46:32, 0:46:33]: But more so than that. [0:46:33, 0:46:36]: I would recommend that the town halls continue. [0:46:36, 0:46:38]: А вам доунгалс то коню. [0:46:38, 0:46:40]: Under the guise that they will [0:46:40, 0:46:43]: Give us the feedback on the appropriate. [0:46:45, 0:46:48]: Policing force that our citizens want to see. [0:46:48, 0:46:50]: That can work in coordination with [0:46:51, 0:46:52]: Sheriff Scandri. [0:46:52, 0:46:53]: Chief Aimerman. [0:46:54, 0:46:58]: And all of the public safety officials that we have. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Uh here in Henry County. [0:47:01, 0:47:03]: I just want to make sure. [0:47:03, 0:47:05]: What we do is do the right thing. [0:47:05, 0:47:07]: And to tell you. [0:47:07, 0:47:07]: But [0:47:08, 0:47:09]: We are committed. [0:47:09, 0:47:11]: Not just to talk about [0:47:11, 0:47:12]: A police department. [0:47:13, 0:47:15]: Ви комітета біга поліс департ. [0:47:16, 0:47:17]: And moving forward. [0:47:17, 0:47:18]: I will. [0:47:19, 0:47:19]: Make sure [0:47:20, 0:47:23]: That I do everything possible and based on [0:47:23, 0:47:25]: That I would like to make a motion. [0:47:26, 0:47:27]: To move forward. [0:47:27, 0:47:29]: With bonding three milyen dollars. [0:47:30, 0:47:33]: For the start-up costs for the Stockbridge Police Department. [0:47:34, 0:47:35]: Startup cost. [0:47:36, 0:47:37]: Mayor Pointwater. [0:47:37, 0:47:38]: Yes, sir. [0:47:39, 0:47:41]: I thought we was uh it was on there for discussion. [0:47:42, 0:47:54]: Well, we need to discuss it, whether there's a second or not, regardless, we need to discuss it. Which like I said, it's gonna involve Mr. Wall that's online right now, our uh city manager as well, and the rest of the council. If you got any comments on this one way or the other. [0:47:54, 0:47:58]: Yeah, but I'm saying if we put it on the agenda for discussion. [0:47:59, 0:48:08]: Um, and it's brought forward, I respect Councilman Alexander for his uh bringing it forward, but if he's bringing it forward for discussion. [0:48:08, 0:48:11]: then uh it's a discussion item. [0:48:11, 0:48:15]: Uh it has to be uh to your discretion. [0:48:15, 0:48:20]: for the other council members at least have a discussion about it and then a motion not to be presented. [0:48:21, 0:48:27]: uh as a discussion item and talked about by the one that's presenting it. And then now he's making a motion without discussion put in place. [0:48:28, 0:48:30]: Then it's not a discussion item, it's a it's a it's a motion item. [0:48:32, 0:48:32]: All right. [0:48:32, 0:48:33]: Wasn't on the agenda. [0:48:34, 0:48:51]: Okay, understand. Well, it's not been a second right now and and it and we don't necessarily need a second. We can have discussion. A motion can always come back later if that's the case. Absolutely. It can always come back. So in reference that you were talking, Councilman, what are your what are your concerns and questions and that you have on in reference to this? [0:48:51, 0:48:58]: Well first of all, let me say that that that it is a priority, that the city of Stockbridge needs to start working toward [0:48:59, 0:49:10]: uh our own police department. And for those citizens that are watching that didn't know, that at one time the city of Stockbridge did have its own police department as well as uh in line with all the other three cities. [0:49:11, 0:49:31]: Uh that had everyone had a own police department. There was some uh mishap that happened in the city of Stockbridge. They can go back and look at the history of that. And now the city of Stockbridge is now stuck with uh dependency on the county, which the taxpayers are paying a tax for uh those services. Um, I think the police services and all that is about three uh three. [0:49:30, 0:49:37]: three point six mil out of uh the uh mill's rate that they're paying right now uh for the taxes for the county. [0:49:38, 0:49:43]: Um my concern right now is I don't know if the city manager knew. [0:49:43, 0:49:57]: um that this motion would happen tonight. Uh we have a financial advisor on here. I don't know if that financial advisor knew that this motion would come tonight. One of the things that I want to see guess because uh in there was a LCI for the city of Stockbridge. [0:49:58, 0:50:00]: Uh in the plans when we playing for the amphitheater. [0:50:01, 0:50:06]: And one of the things for the amphitheater, which we have people online right now that we're gonna talk about later on. [0:50:06, 0:50:16]: is that we have gone about this amphitheater in ways that are unprecedented in other areas. And I just don't wanna see us falling in that because [0:50:16, 0:50:20]: Because we have the right to do something and make a vote, that don't mean it's the right thing to do. [0:50:21, 0:50:29]: As far as voting for it right now without having discussions, without consulting with our city manager and our financial advisor, and make sure that when we do it, [0:50:29, 0:50:40]: there aren't continual add-on costs that we understand what the cost is and that we don't that that when we move forward with our police department that it's gonna come to fruition. [0:50:40, 0:51:00]: Because we have the ins and out and we know everything about it. Not that a council sat down and say, hey, this is what we want, and let's take it, let's throw a number outside of our head and just go ahead and start moving on it. We gotta look at what the what are the numbers for sustainability? What are the what needs to happen in order for sustainability? We have a lot to talk about, ready to say we have the right to vote for a bunding right now for the [0:51:00, 0:51:03]: the police department. I'm for police department one hundred percent. [0:51:04, 0:51:08]: But I want to make sure that we're all clear on what we're voting for. [0:51:09, 0:51:15]: And what the future holds from the decision we're making and what the cost is gonna be and what has to happen. [0:51:15, 0:51:19]: We talked about sustainability could come in the form of a uh a tax. [0:51:20, 0:51:26]: Uh, because we uh we would definitely seek a rollback from the county. We have all types of avenues we have to seek first. [0:51:27, 0:51:31]: That this come to fruition and it becomes a benefit rather than [0:51:31, 0:51:42]: a burden on the taxpayer uh uh on the uh city of stockbridge because we have to make sure we're doing it right. We can't sit here as council member because we have the right to vote tonight. [0:51:43, 0:51:46]: And I think n that there's not one single council member on here that doesn't want [0:51:47, 0:51:50]: a police. We all are in favor of our own police department. [0:51:52, 0:52:00]: But we're right now is the expenditures that we're putting out right now and still don't have accurate numbers for projects that we still have on board right now. [0:52:01, 0:52:03]: While we go into another department. [0:52:04, 0:52:13]: And still don't have those numbers. And so we're writing blank checks that we don't know if we have to write another check to cover that check. I'm not for that. [0:52:13, 0:52:14]: I'm for doing it the right way. [0:52:16, 0:52:21]: All right, thank you, sir. Um, city manager, Mr. Knighton, what are your initial comments and thoughts, sir? [0:52:25, 0:52:29]: Um obviously this is a significant consideration. [0:52:30, 0:52:36]: uh by the mayor and council. Um if we need to have discussion or detailed discussion. [0:52:37, 0:52:40]: uh after the council, which I assume would have further comment or direction. [0:52:41, 0:52:44]: We can do that with our financial advisor and our bond council. [0:52:45, 0:52:48]: Um the uh we are prepared. [0:52:49, 0:52:53]: Um, as best we can to be able to provide you. [0:52:53, 0:52:56]: with an overall scenario if you want to go forward. [0:52:57, 0:53:00]: Um obviously this item uh is something that um [0:53:01, 0:53:03]: came forward in in in [0:53:03, 0:53:07]: Large part in the last several days, obviously it's been discussed before. [0:53:07, 0:53:17]: Um and in conjunction with the other bonding items that are on the agenda, we began to take a look at um what what it would look like. [0:53:18, 0:53:21]: А тад іні монетарі фігур то. [0:53:21, 0:53:23]: That bonding scenario. [0:53:23, 0:53:27]: I would mention of course that uh the last several years. [0:53:27, 0:53:31]: Uh the city has had the University of Georgia Carl Vinson Institute. [0:53:32, 0:53:48]: assess um the costs associated with a police department. It was an initial study done some years ago, and then it was refreshed last year with respect to the overall cost, annual costs, startup costs, and so forth. [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: uh staffing levels of a police department. [0:53:51, 0:53:54]: So that information uh is contained. [0:53:54, 0:54:02]: Uh, in those studies. Uh, I would probably uh defer this point to the council if the council has any further comment. [0:54:03, 0:54:06]: uh and then uh determine uh [0:54:06, 0:54:07]: Our [0:54:07, 0:54:10]: Uh tr determine how Mr Mr. Selby and Mr. [0:54:10, 0:54:13]: A wall can provide further guidance. [0:54:13, 0:54:16]: I have a question there. Go right in, Mr. Mr. Blount. [0:54:16, 0:54:21]: Uh Mr. Knight, uh, you spoke about uh Mr. Wallet, our financial advisor. To what extent? [0:54:22, 0:54:26]: Are we prepared to give information pertaining to this? [0:54:26, 0:54:36]: uh motion. What what extent are you prepared and Mr. Wall prepared to give us this counsel tonight in the direction we're going uh to add millions upon a bond. [0:54:37, 0:54:37]: Uh [0:54:38, 0:54:49]: right now, uh Mr. Knighton and Mr. Walls as our financial advisor, what information do you have to give us tonight? Tonight, right now, prior to making this vote, pertaining to this motion. [0:54:50, 0:54:53]: Well, we can we can go into a level of detail if we need to. [0:54:54, 0:54:59]: Um, you know, my my job part of my job of course as city manager is to try to be as prepared as possible. [0:55:00, 0:55:02]: And there was some d some a notion. [0:55:02, 0:55:16]: That perhaps a discussion involving this would take place. I spoke with Mr. Selby and Mr. Wall of the last several days and their team to determine what would be the best mechanism. [0:55:16, 0:55:19]: To move forward with this, if that is the council's desire. [0:55:20, 0:55:22]: Of course, we had been already preparing for [0:55:22, 0:55:28]: the uh other items that are on the agenda related to the amphitheater cultural arts center and uh trio. [0:55:28, 0:55:29]: uh system. [0:55:30, 0:55:36]: Um but um we can go as as detailed and deep as we as as you need us to. [0:55:36, 0:55:39]: If that is the c the the desire of the council this evening. [0:55:39, 0:55:42]: Well just a follow up, Mr. Knighton, if you will, uh Mayor. [0:55:42, 0:56:01]: When we talk about the bonding that we already have on table, when we talk about the the culture arts and alone and Mr. Walls, you can jump in at any time. We're talking about uh around nine hundred and eighty, about nine hundred and sixty-five thousand dollars that's gonna be hitting our budget. And I know we got splot funds coming in. [0:56:01, 0:56:03]: What is the overall impact? [0:56:04, 0:56:07]: About general fund going this route with bunding. [0:56:07, 0:56:10]: So uh prior to [0:56:10, 0:56:14]: uh moving forward with projects like we're doing right now so [0:56:14, 0:56:19]: We we're talking about interest rate, but what what about the impact that we're gonna be putting on our uh [0:56:20, 0:56:21]: o of the sp expenditures [0:56:22, 0:56:30]: Uh, to bring these projects to fruition, but the expenditures that are being put out that are gonna be taking over a year more. [0:56:31, 0:56:35]: Uh but yet we're gonna be uh obligated for the interest [0:56:35, 0:56:38]: Uh obligated to pay the interest rate on these bonds. [0:56:39, 0:56:41]: So w we we'll stop filing bonds. [0:56:42, 0:56:50]: But they're not this not free money. We're still gonna be obligated for interest rate on these bonds until these projects, until movement comes forward. [0:56:50, 0:56:54]: So we can say we're stockpiling bonds for future use. [0:56:55, 0:56:55]: But [0:56:55, 0:57:07]: Until then we still have interest rates that are gonna happen to that. And I like Mr. Walls, if you don't mind speaking to that respect on uh interest rate pertaining to the bonding that we're doing now and what kind of hit that [0:57:07, 0:57:13]: that bringing in uh extra millions, what type of hit that that that the city would take on on top of that bundle. [0:57:14, 0:57:34]: If I may, before Mr. Wall, Ms. uh Mayor Ford, can I just real quick and before Mr. Wall. Go ahead. Go ahead, please. Um, yes, Councilman Bloom is correct. I mean, obviously bonds, if they are extended, it is going to be an expense out of the general fund uh with a period of 15 years. If the council desires something different with the policing uh matter that may be a [0:57:34, 0:57:35]: a little bit different. [0:57:35, 0:57:39]: But it will be an impact to the general fund, as I've said that before. [0:57:40, 0:57:43]: And that is obviously something that has to be considered. [0:57:44, 0:57:47]: When um issuing bonds every year. [0:57:47, 0:57:53]: Um potentially starting next year, half of next year, if it's approved the way it's set up currently. [0:57:53, 0:57:56]: there will be an impact to the general fund. [0:57:57, 0:58:01]: And um and so everyone we all need to understand that. [0:58:01, 0:58:02]: And we all [0:58:02, 0:58:06]: Would need to prepare staff, would need to prepare ourselves accordingly. [0:58:06, 0:58:10]: Or to budget accordingly, understanding that impact will take place. [0:58:11, 0:58:14]: Mr. Knight, could you also speak to the decrease [0:58:14, 0:58:23]: And w when we talked about monies that was coming in, we had talked about overtages that was coming into the city, that those numbers have decreased. [0:58:24, 0:58:26]: For the city of Stockbridge. That's what I've been informed by you. [0:58:27, 0:58:34]: No. No, I I I I think we're talking about let's let's talk about a couple of things. One is fund balance. I think the fund balance issue. [0:58:34, 0:58:36]: If that's what you're referring to, Councilman Blount. [0:58:36, 0:58:37]: Well we'll come. [0:58:37, 0:58:49]: Mm-hmm. Go ahead. Yeah, a couple of couple of years ago, um, we had a very large fund balance that came in. I think it was two point six or so million dollars. The following year, if I remember right, it was about one point [0:58:49, 0:59:00]: Uh I'm sorry, it was about$117,000. In that year, of course, we had a number of expenses that the council is fully aware of in terms of property acquisition. [0:59:01, 0:59:06]: And also um a major uh legal batter matter that uh we we had to undertake. [0:59:06, 0:59:11]: And then last year I believe it was just over five hundred thousand dollars, some of which though [0:59:11, 0:59:17]: Um, I think we did with some capital. And so I think I see Ed nodding his head. I think I've got that correct. [0:59:17, 0:59:20]: In terms of fund balance um increase. [0:59:20, 0:59:26]: I will say, and we have to always take these things in context. Um, you know, obviously our financial advisors. [0:59:27, 0:59:32]: And staff try to project as best we can. We're coming out of a covet situation that is unique. [0:59:32, 0:59:37]: uh to all of us however however we did see loss numbers increase [0:59:37, 0:59:41]: Will that continue next year and the following year as we come out of COVID? [0:59:41, 0:59:45]: We don't know. That could be a new normal. It may not be. We don't know. [0:59:45, 0:59:50]: And so we have to look at the revenues that are uh coming in currently. [0:59:51, 0:59:56]: Try as best we can project um what will come in uh after that. [0:59:56, 1:00:00]: And determine uh the best financial scenario, but again. [1:00:00, 1:00:03]: Of course there will be an impact to the general fund. [1:00:04, 1:00:05]: Every year ago. [1:00:05, 1:00:06]: For Bondi projects. [1:00:07, 1:00:14]: I'd like to get a hear Mr. Wall's take on that, if he would uh just talk about what we just spoke on. [1:00:15, 1:00:16]: Small, the floor is yours, sir. [1:00:17, 1:00:18]: Thank you, sir. So um [1:00:20, 1:00:23]: The splost four and splosed five. [1:00:23, 1:00:26]: Are funding the amphitheater and the trails. [1:00:27, 1:00:31]: We've got a change order on the amphitheater we gotta talk about tonight. [1:00:31, 1:00:32]: Um [1:00:32, 1:00:34]: Is what how you want to fund that. [1:00:35, 1:00:41]: But Splos four and SPLOS five hand on the amphitheatum trails. The Cultural Arts Center at 14 million. [1:00:41, 1:00:43]: is going to be carried largely by the general fund. [1:00:44, 1:00:48]: That's about nine hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year increase in the general fund. [1:00:49, 1:00:50]: I have [1:00:50, 1:00:56]: capitalize the interest in the bond issue so that your first payment doesn't occur until August of twenty two. [1:00:57, 1:01:00]: And the first full freight would be your fiscal year twenty three. [1:01:01, 1:01:05]: Um, Mr. Knight asked me to run numbers for adding three million. [1:01:05, 1:01:07]: for police equipment. [1:01:07, 1:01:12]: Police equipment or vehicles, cameras, furnishings for the new precinct. [1:01:12, 1:01:13]: You have to [1:01:14, 1:01:15]: Borough [1:01:15, 1:01:18]: term equal to the useful life of the equipment. [1:01:19, 1:01:24]: So I figured seven years would be the useful life of the cars and the cameras and the equipment. [1:01:25, 1:01:28]: And so a seven year three million dollar bond issue. [1:01:28, 1:01:31]: Would add another five hundred and thirty five thousand to the general fund. [1:01:32, 1:01:34]: until you could find another source of revenue. [1:01:37, 1:01:43]: And that would be just for clarification, Mary, if I may, that would be for a seven year period on that component. Is that correct, Ed? [1:01:44, 1:01:45]: Yes, sir. [1:01:45, 1:01:45]: Okay. [1:01:46, 1:01:48]: The other items he mentioned is on a fifteen year. [1:01:51, 1:01:51]: Okay. [1:01:53, 1:01:55]: All right, uh Mari Pro Tem I was going to go ahead. [1:01:56, 1:02:16]: Uh yeah yeah, just uh for clarification, um and honestly, uh I started this conversation uh with Mr. Knighton several uh days ago. I just I thought I would step out because I I just hear it from so many citizens to step out on faith and to know. And please understand. [1:02:16, 1:02:20]: Uh Mr. Wall and Mrs. Knighton have every number that you want. [1:02:20, 1:02:23]: To compare it to just like on the rest of the bonds. [1:02:23, 1:02:25]: Uh, that we're going through tonight. [1:02:25, 1:02:30]: Are they taking the same approach with this one right here? Should we decide to go forward with it? [1:02:30, 1:02:31]: And I just think [1:02:32, 1:02:34]: You know, it's just like uh [1:02:35, 1:02:38]: Uh sh just like our previous speaker Sarah Scandis said. [1:02:38, 1:02:40]: The people have been waiting long enough. [1:02:40, 1:02:42]: How much longer should they have to wait? [1:02:43, 1:02:45]: І цапта ус то так лідерши. [1:02:46, 1:02:48]: And to take it by courage. [1:02:48, 1:02:51]: To vote for what the people have told us. [1:02:51, 1:02:52]: that they want. [1:02:53, 1:02:58]: We know that uh again we have eight thousand people moving to this county each and every year. [1:02:59, 1:03:00]: We understand that um [1:03:01, 1:03:03]: There will be increases in our revenue. [1:03:03, 1:03:05]: And we did understand [1:03:05, 1:03:06]: Yeah, the trajectory. [1:03:07, 1:03:11]: Those fund balance increases come in every single year. [1:03:12, 1:03:27]: I've seen it since I've been here. It was two million, two million, two million, then one hundred, then a million dollars. The year that it went down, we actually did something as a council. We spent some of the money on projects here in the city that needed to be done. [1:03:28, 1:03:32]: I will assure you again, the reason that I wanted this one to be first. [1:03:32, 1:03:34]: Is that we wanted to make sure [1:03:34, 1:03:39]: That no citizen left tonight saying, What about public safety? [1:03:39, 1:03:41]: Because what would happen would be [1:03:41, 1:03:45]: Uh everything would be lined up in order to make sure [1:03:45, 1:03:52]: That the public safety announcement and everything is first. That money will be spent first. And let me make no mistake about it. [1:03:53, 1:03:53]: Nope. [1:03:53, 1:03:55]: A my intention. [1:03:55, 1:04:00]: is not to borrow the money and sit on it, it is to actually start a police department. [1:04:00, 1:04:01]: Moving it forward. [1:04:02, 1:04:03]: Hiring a police chief. [1:04:04, 1:04:10]: Doing what's necessary. That would be my intent. My intent would not be to sit on the money and do nothing with it. [1:04:11, 1:04:13]: The the pip the citizens have told us what they wanted to do. [1:04:14, 1:04:19]: It's up to us to do it. My decision is not to sit to finish the amphitheater. [1:04:19, 1:04:33]: to talk to actually complete the cultural art center. So nobody's taking out a bond to sit on the money to stack them up. The idea is to j demonstrate that we can just do more than talk. [1:04:35, 1:04:43]: More than talk. Y'all talked about a police department for a long time. When are y'all gonna stop talking and actually do something? [1:04:43, 1:04:44]: Tonight [1:04:44, 1:04:47]: We can clearly demonstrate to our citizens. [1:04:48, 1:04:50]: Да ви комітет то публі сфі. [1:04:51, 1:04:52]: By bonding this money [1:04:53, 1:04:55]: Moving forward now. [1:04:57, 1:04:57]: Right. [1:04:58, 1:04:58]: Um [1:04:59, 1:05:02]: Councilman uh Thomas, do you have any comments, sir? [1:05:02, 1:05:04]: I do. Um [1:05:05, 1:05:08]: I've had this discussion for a while. [1:05:08, 1:05:09]: Um [1:05:10, 1:05:12]: Someone made reference to the [1:05:12, 1:05:18]: Police department that we have years ago. Um, I remember that. I live with that. [1:05:18, 1:05:20]: I'm familiar with the reason why the state [1:05:21, 1:05:22]: Uh discontinued that. [1:05:23, 1:05:27]: Um I've had discussions uh with Mr. Nine here recently about this. [1:05:28, 1:05:29]: And [1:05:31, 1:05:33]: Two questions ought to come to mind for me. [1:05:34, 1:05:36]: And I I do agree um that [1:05:37, 1:05:40]: If we move forward with the three million. [1:05:40, 1:05:55]: I would not be in favor of sitting on it, you know, paying interest on money, just sitting. And I think uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander sort of hit on it, because I even asked the question, you know, how do we go forward? And that was my other question, was the the how to. [1:05:56, 1:05:57]: Um [1:05:57, 1:05:59]: And then I asked myself [1:05:59, 1:06:00]: Um [1:06:00, 1:06:02]: What would be the reason? [1:06:03, 1:06:05]: What would be the reason why I [1:06:06, 1:06:08]: I would say wait. [1:06:10, 1:06:12]: And I have not heard that reason. [1:06:13, 1:06:14]: Why to wait? [1:06:15, 1:06:16]: Um [1:06:18, 1:06:19]: I'm a faithful person. [1:06:20, 1:06:23]: I'm a logical person. I'm a sensible person. [1:06:24, 1:06:27]: Um I I think that we have to [1:06:28, 1:06:29]: Uh go forward. [1:06:30, 1:06:33]: Um, there's been a lot of talk about the police department, and I would say [1:06:34, 1:06:37]: If we decide tonight to to bind the three [1:06:38, 1:06:45]: Uh I'm I feel pretty confident that we are going to create some level of going forward. [1:06:45, 1:06:59]: um to utilize the three million. That doesn't mean that you have to have a 100% uh fully equipped, organized police department. But I think when we say start up. [1:06:59, 1:07:02]: I I think we can have some level of [1:07:03, 1:07:07]: uh a startup or a entry type of a force [1:07:07, 1:07:08]: But whereas now [1:07:09, 1:07:14]: Uh, we don't have anything now, you know. I I have public safety issues myself. [1:07:14, 1:07:15]: Um [1:07:15, 1:07:17]: Everyday issues. [1:07:17, 1:07:19]: That I do not see being addressed. [1:07:20, 1:07:21]: And I've been waiting. [1:07:22, 1:07:24]: Uh for ten years or more. [1:07:24, 1:07:32]: Um on the Stockbridge Police Department. And the issues and my concerns, my public safety issues and concern. [1:07:32, 1:07:34]: A groin. [1:07:34, 1:07:36]: more and more every day. [1:07:37, 1:07:39]: But again, um [1:07:39, 1:07:42]: I have not heard the reason why we should wait. [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: I I have not heard the reason why we should not. [1:07:46, 1:07:49]: Uh, I've heard many reasons why we should go forward. [1:07:49, 1:07:56]: But I have not heard any reason why we should not. And and and that just, you know, my take on it. Um [1:07:57, 1:07:59]: I like to be able to see [1:08:00, 1:08:01]: And understand [1:08:01, 1:08:02]: The vision. [1:08:03, 1:08:05]: And the path forward. [1:08:06, 1:08:07]: I do not see [1:08:08, 1:08:09]: Um [1:08:09, 1:08:12]: being stagnant. I I don't see that. Um [1:08:12, 1:08:14]: So that's that's sort of [1:08:14, 1:08:17]: My issue and that's the way I approach things. [1:08:17, 1:08:19]: If if there's a reason why I'm [1:08:20, 1:08:23]: Um, you know, as God say, you know, peace be still. [1:08:23, 1:08:28]: If there was a reason for me to to be still, then I would say, okay, let's be still. [1:08:29, 1:08:30]: But I don't see that. [1:08:31, 1:08:36]: Uh I do see and understand a path of going forward. And I would be um [1:08:37, 1:08:54]: help pushing you know the engine to go forward if we burn the money. It would not be um just somewhere you know in the storehouse and we just paying taxes on it. I'll be about trying to move this forward, especially if we go down this road. And I think it would be incumbent upon all of us. [1:08:55, 1:08:56]: Um to make it happen. [1:08:56, 1:08:57]: Um [1:08:58, 1:08:59]: If the three millions are there. [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: How is the best way to utilize? [1:09:04, 1:09:05]: The three milyen. [1:09:05, 1:09:07]: In going forward. [1:09:07, 1:09:17]: to create the Stockbridge Police Department. And I think that we could do that. I think we can get that startup. Uh it like again, it does not have to be [1:09:18, 1:09:19]: A one hundred percent [1:09:20, 1:09:22]: fully equipped department. [1:09:23, 1:09:24]: Um [1:09:25, 1:09:27]: We need public safety now. [1:09:28, 1:09:30]: We need some level. [1:09:30, 1:09:33]: a public safety nine and and then we all know that [1:09:33, 1:09:36]: Um, you know, in our discussion with Henry County. [1:09:37, 1:09:41]: Uh what we had ten years ago for is the service from the county. [1:09:42, 1:09:43]: We don't have that now. [1:09:44, 1:09:50]: And we're not going to get that level of uh cooperation or service from the county now. So again. [1:09:51, 1:09:55]: Why are we waiting? I'm I'm still listening for [1:09:55, 1:10:02]: That reason and I I have not heard that. I've heard reason why we should go forward. So just in closing, Mayor, um [1:10:02, 1:10:06]: I'm still waiting to hear why we should not go forward. [1:10:07, 1:10:08]: What are we waiting for? [1:10:08, 1:10:12]: All right, stand by please. Councilwoman Barber, you would had your hand up earlier. [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: I did. Um, so I do support um [1:10:19, 1:10:24]: The bonding of the three million dollars to establish a police department. [1:10:26, 1:10:29]: During the whole cityhood fight. [1:10:29, 1:10:30]: Uh [1:10:30, 1:10:34]: That was one of the things that we heard the most when we knocked on doors. [1:10:35, 1:10:36]: People wanted it. [1:10:36, 1:10:38]: They asked us about it. [1:10:38, 1:10:40]: Um I know then that [1:10:40, 1:10:41]: The council [1:10:41, 1:10:45]: was having discussions about establishing a police department. [1:10:47, 1:10:50]: I don't want to continue talking about it. I want to take [1:10:50, 1:10:53]: Um collapse steps to bring this to fruition. [1:10:55, 1:10:57]: Um so [1:10:58, 1:11:00]: I don't know why. [1:11:01, 1:11:02]: Nevertheless. [1:11:02, 1:11:03]: Um so [1:11:04, 1:11:06]: I do support um [1:11:06, 1:11:08]: This motion. That's all. [1:11:18, 1:11:19]: You're on mute. [1:11:22, 1:11:25]: Thank you very thank you very much. I didn't realize it. Go ahead, Ms. Gantt. [1:11:26, 1:11:29]: Thank you. Um I I have one question. [1:11:29, 1:11:33]: Again, I think we all want police depart the police department. Um [1:11:35, 1:11:40]: I know that in the past our feasibility study basically uh mentioned [1:11:41, 1:11:41]: Um [1:11:42, 1:11:44]: If we were to get a police department [1:11:45, 1:11:48]: We possibly if we don't tax. [1:11:49, 1:11:54]: or have some type of tax in the future, we would be in the red. [1:11:55, 1:11:56]: And so [1:11:57, 1:12:17]: Bonding three million dollars, if that is the actual amount, I would like to know the actual actual amount that's suggested to start up a police department that was mentioned and go based off of numbers. I don't want us to throw out some random number number out there and I don't think this is a random number, but I think that [1:12:17, 1:12:19]: We we need accurate numbers. [1:12:20, 1:12:25]: Um so if if this and I remember three million for some reason. [1:12:25, 1:12:27]: Um and maybe someone can help me out on that. [1:12:28, 1:12:28]: But [1:12:29, 1:12:35]: I also am concerned, yes, that's startup, but we haven't laid out [1:12:36, 1:12:41]: Um again we were you know we're to have the town halls. We haven't laid out any [1:12:41, 1:12:50]: Other information about a police department after the startup cost. And so I would love for us to. [1:12:50, 1:12:55]: discuss that, uh make sure that our all the citizens are aware. [1:12:55, 1:12:56]: And [1:12:57, 1:12:58]: We need to be very [1:12:59, 1:13:15]: conscious of that part. Um I'm not against bunding out for a startup of the police department again. But that's just part one. Are we gonna do part one and not have a long term plan in place? I think that we [1:13:16, 1:13:19]: Need to have the whole plan laid out. [1:13:20, 1:13:21]: I I just think we do. [1:13:22, 1:13:23]: Um [1:13:23, 1:13:31]: Again, I'm for bunding. I'm asking mayor and counsel maybe if we now that we know we're all for bonding the startup cost. [1:13:31, 1:13:41]: if we're okay with maybe our next meeting, making sure that staff will have a plan in place for not just startup, but for the actual operation. [1:13:43, 1:13:44]: That's all I have. [1:13:45, 1:14:00]: Okay, thank you. Now so I haven't spoken on this yet. So I just want you all to know my initial thoughts about this is is simply this. Police department is a great thing. We need to do that. Obviously in the last several years, we've not had a very adequate SDS agreement to county. And so [1:14:00, 1:14:03]: Having a police department, yes, we need to do so. [1:14:03, 1:14:12]: Now my basic concern is is allowing to have the dialogue with the citizens and let them realize and know, and it's from my thought process that [1:14:12, 1:14:14]: You we have no city property tax now. [1:14:15, 1:14:35]: to have a startup police department, whether it's three million, whatever the million would be, there will probably be some type of city tax involved. And I and I'd rather or would like to know or at least let the citizens know that there will be a tax. And I honestly think there will be. Now obviously that maybe come through some additional research and and justify whether or not that is really a case. But it's just my simple [1:14:35, 1:14:39]: simple assumption that there will be some type of tax involved and people just need to know that. [1:14:40, 1:14:56]: And um and and and maybe a lot of folks may say, well that's no problem. This is what I w I want a police department, I I'm I'm I'm all right with the tax. Well that's fine. But they just need to know that. We just need to make sure we're up front and we have a better idea of the cost factor and what they would be taxed for, because right now there are no city property taxes. [1:14:56, 1:15:02]: in this aspect. So that's that's a concern of mine. But to have a police department is something I think we need to do anyway. [1:15:02, 1:15:04]: And to to help um [1:15:04, 1:15:15]: be self-sufficient. We we're self-contained. We can handle things and do things what we need to do to cover our ordinances and and police our own people in this aspect as well. So it makes us a better city, I think, in the long run. [1:15:15, 1:15:20]: Oh, those are those are my initial comments. Councilman Barber, you had your hand up earlier again. [1:15:22, 1:15:33]: Yes, um Mayor Pro Tem Alexander actually spoke about a police chief or maybe even a consulting firm that we could actually bring on board now. [1:15:33, 1:15:37]: To do all of the legwork that Mr. Nighton has been doing. [1:15:38, 1:15:39]: Um and [1:15:39, 1:15:41]: Um possibly [1:15:41, 1:15:42]: Um [1:15:42, 1:15:46]: Facilitate the town halls that Mr. Knightman has been doing. [1:15:46, 1:15:49]: I want us not only to just be talking about this. [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: I want us to make things happen. [1:15:53, 1:16:01]: Yes, we need information that we can share to the community about you know the taxes, the possible increase or [1:16:02, 1:16:04]: Implementation of a city tax. [1:16:05, 1:16:08]: That's information that we could hire a consulting firm. [1:16:08, 1:16:10]: Or an individual [1:16:10, 1:16:17]: for then to work directly with Mr. Knighton and to do all of that research and bring it back to the council. [1:16:17, 1:16:18]: So that's all. [1:16:21, 1:16:23]: Good thought. Uh Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:16:24, 1:16:31]: Uh Mr. Knighton, uh one I'm saying not Mr. N uh Mayor, thank you. Uh one of the things we have to realize is on this Zoom call even tonight. [1:16:32, 1:16:33]: We have what we call a financial advisor. [1:16:35, 1:16:47]: A financial advisor takes all information. He he he he he formulates and shows us the impact it would be to the city of Stockbridge in any direction we go in. That's what a financial he's on the card. We've already hired one. [1:16:47, 1:16:57]: He's on the call tonight. There's no such thing as a start up police department. You either have one or you don't. It's a get started amount that we can get get going with a police department. That's what we can get. [1:16:57, 1:16:59]: But if you don't understand uh [1:17:00, 1:17:00]: Uh [1:17:01, 1:17:11]: What we're looking at, three million dollars is not gonna be enough. And I think that came out of the Carl Vincent Institute uh study that we had. Uh there's uh there's no backup. [1:17:12, 1:17:13]: Um [1:17:14, 1:17:16]: Show there's no packet showing [1:17:17, 1:17:23]: what this would what this would all cost what it would take. We're all for it. Then let's get all the information together. [1:17:24, 1:17:35]: Let's let's not let's not take this and piece it, piece it, piece it, piece it. Let's get an overall plan on what it's gonna cost, what it's gonna take, and that's what we move forward with. [1:17:35, 1:17:50]: To sit here and say, hey, we're throwing$3 million in it right now. And so, hey, this this is startup. What is it gonna be? What is the impact gonna be to the taxpayers, uh uh, to the citizens of Stockbridge? What is it gonna cost? We don't have this information. [1:17:50, 1:18:09]: This is why I said we should wait and I agree with Councilwoman uh Gantt. Let's sit down and let's get everybody together and let's say, hey, this is what it's gonna cost. All the professionals, not elected officials. See, when it comes to me, when it comes to my faith, I use faith in my personal life. [1:18:10, 1:18:12]: I use facts when it comes to the taxpayers' money. [1:18:13, 1:18:19]: Okay, it's not my dollars, it's the taxpayers' dollars. So I use facts, and right now the facts are not there. [1:18:20, 1:18:23]: To show what the impact would be on the taxpayers. [1:18:24, 1:18:30]: My faith is that once it gets going, once we get a police department, it's gonna flourish and be awesome. That's my faith. [1:18:31, 1:18:43]: But I need some facts to back up the decision we need to make with the taxpayers' dollars. And we don't have that. We don't have it. If any council member on here have those facts, have the overall numbers, bring it forward now. [1:18:44, 1:18:52]: Because I we need to we need information brought forward other than just a vote to say move this three hundred three million dollars. It makes no sense. [1:18:54, 1:19:01]: All right, uh Marepotem um Alexander, let's make this a last comment, Alexander, so we can move on with this discussion. [1:19:01, 1:19:02]: Let me see. [1:19:02, 1:19:10]: Uh sir, I I simply wanna call the question. You well, I think we've gone on. Everybody's got to speak twice and it's time to call the vote. [1:19:13, 1:19:15]: Yeah, what's your motion, sir? [1:19:15, 1:19:18]: My motion is to move forward with [1:19:18, 1:19:21]: Bonding three million dollars for the initial startup cost. [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: For the Stockbridge Police Department. [1:19:23, 1:19:26]: Something that was long overdue and our citizens won. [1:19:29, 1:19:31]: Councilman Barber, did you just second that? [1:19:32, 1:19:34]: Okay. Any further discussion? [1:19:36, 1:19:36]: Okay. [1:19:37, 1:19:39]: Council Plant, one last thing. [1:19:39, 1:19:42]: My Casman Block, one last time. Go ahead, please. [1:19:42, 1:19:46]: My vote on this issue is not that we don't need a police department. [1:19:47, 1:19:51]: My vote on this issue is that we need to do it the right way. [1:19:51, 1:19:55]: And that's what I'm petitioning this council to do it the right way. [1:19:55, 1:19:58]: Instead of sitting back because we have the power to vote. [1:19:59, 1:20:04]: And do it like now. We haven't consulted our uh financial uh advisor. [1:20:04, 1:20:24]: We haven't consulted with our um city manager to talk talk to financial body and uh and even even discuss extra services or whatever. We haven't talked to anybody because we're not going to be able to make provision for all the services here in Stockbridge. We still got to have some intergovernment agreements in place with the county. Nothing has been discussed. What will those services cost us? [1:20:24, 1:20:40]: What would be the impact that if we have to implement a tax? We may not have to. We don't know. We don't know. It's so many unknowns, but yet still, because we feel good about ourselves to be able to say, let's put$3,000,$3 million toward a police department. [1:20:40, 1:20:42]: It makes no sense. [1:20:42, 1:20:43]: This makes no sense. [1:20:44, 1:20:47]: Councilwoman Gantt, go ahead, please. One last time. [1:20:47, 1:20:51]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I was just asking my colleagues, um [1:20:51, 1:20:52]: To [1:20:52, 1:20:57]: Again, I'm not against the bonding. I want to go ahead and bond for the starter. [1:20:57, 1:21:13]: But I also want us to have everything organized. So I was asking, I had asked earlier and I'm asking them to please consider tabling and actually voting on bonding on our work session and having everything in order. That's all. I feel like [1:21:13, 1:21:16]: This was thrown up tonight. [1:21:16, 1:21:33]: unexpectedly and it's three million dollars but I want to I want some type of presentation where we have all the details laid out. Okay, this is our startup cost, but how are we going to maintain it? Insurance, everything. It's a go. [1:21:33, 1:21:39]: I'm for it 100%. I'm just asking that we have our plan and our layout in place. [1:21:39, 1:21:40]: That's all. [1:21:41, 1:21:51]: All right. All right. Motion's been made, been seconded. Mayor question. Yeah. Yes, council. Can we ask the city manager? [1:21:51, 1:22:04]: What would be the impact? Because you I remember uh two or three years ago, this the county's insurance went up four million dollars. Can can can we talk to uh have the city manager speak toward the insurance, the increase in insurance on projects like this? [1:22:05, 1:22:13]: All right, stand by. Mr. Knight, uh, can you answer that question, please? Well, I think in the study, the Carl Vinson study, operational costs were taken into account. [1:22:14, 1:22:16]: Operational cost of four point six million. [1:22:16, 1:22:20]: Startup capital costs eight eight hundred and fifty four thousand a year. [1:22:21, 1:22:25]: Um some facility costs a hundred and seventy one thousand for a total of five point six eight. [1:22:26, 1:22:29]: мільн долар он анілка [1:22:29, 1:22:32]: per year to operate a police department. [1:22:32, 1:22:36]: Remember one of the Carvis and Institute went through a number of different [1:22:36, 1:22:37]: Um [1:22:38, 1:22:41]: Police departments throughout the state of Georgia. One was most notably [1:22:42, 1:22:45]: The city of Dunwoody, because that had been the most recent at the time. [1:22:45, 1:22:47]: that had been uh developed. [1:22:48, 1:22:52]: Uh and those numbers that they utilized in terms of startup costs. [1:22:52, 1:22:54]: Операціонал кос [1:22:54, 1:22:57]: uh to maintain it over a period of time. [1:22:57, 1:22:58]: were presented in their study. [1:23:01, 1:23:01]: All right. [1:23:03, 1:23:11]: Okay, hopefully hopefully there's no other comments. We can make the vote and then we can go through another analysis on this aspect. Motion has been made, been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: All pose. [1:23:17, 1:23:18]: Abstain. [1:23:18, 1:23:27]: Only b only because I think we need a little I need we we need a better layout, but I'm for it. I just need a better layout. That's all. [1:23:27, 1:23:29]: Adam Perkus three one one. [1:23:29, 1:23:44]: Um Mr. Wall and Randy, Mr. Knighton. You Mr. Knight, you mentioned earlier in your conversation that now the the council has now voted for this 311. You said you had additional information or data and status. Is that what you want to discuss now? Is this for another occasion? [1:23:44, 1:23:52]: I think we probably would be best served to discuss that with the other bonding items when they come forward to the council. And we will [1:23:53, 1:23:56]: be prepared to wrap all of this in uh during that discussion. [1:23:56, 1:24:09]: All right. Well then we'll move on to the next item, which would be Amphitheater Project Update, which is actually presented by you, Mr. Knighton and Kurt Vogel and Carl or Carl, what it Tread of how do you pronounce your last name, Carl? I'm sorry. [1:24:10, 1:24:19]: Trebatin. Travathan, Trebathan. Okay. Excuse me for messing that up. All right. And Carl's with Kak and Wood and of course uh Kirk is with HJ Russell. [1:24:20, 1:24:32]: Mr. Nine, go ahead and start this conversation, please. Yes, thank you, Mayor. Um, it does give us pleasure tonight to update uh the council and uh of course the viewing audience, the citizens on the status of the amphitheater project. [1:24:32, 1:24:38]: Course anybody who has gone by City Hall has seen how the amphitheater has continued to grow and build and be constructed. [1:24:39, 1:24:42]: Um a a project of this size and magnitude. [1:24:43, 1:24:47]: Um has a number of different intricacies and a number of different people who are involved. [1:24:48, 1:24:51]: Um certainly the construction team and subcontractors. [1:24:52, 1:24:55]: Архітекс проєкт менеджер. [1:24:56, 1:25:03]: And then working with all of the different entities that have to be involved in something like this, like Georgia Power, ATT, and all of these other entities. [1:25:03, 1:25:07]: It takes a great deal of coordination, uh, great deal of time. [1:25:07, 1:25:11]: Uh, to build uh the project, but it has gone forward. [1:25:11, 1:25:13]: That is moving uh well. [1:25:14, 1:25:16]: And um I will [1:25:16, 1:25:20]: Without further delay, I will turn this over to Kurt Vocal. [1:25:20, 1:25:25]: with HJ Russell to provide an update uh on the amphitheater project. [1:25:26, 1:25:27]: Welcome, Kurt. [1:25:27, 1:25:28]: All right, answer. [1:25:28, 1:25:33]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. Thank you, Randy, and thank you, all you uh council members. [1:25:33, 1:25:35]: Could I share my screen? [1:25:37, 1:25:43]: Yes, I believe our IT person, Robert, if you would allow Mr. Vocal to be able to share his screen so he can provide his presentation. [1:25:50, 1:25:51]: Thank you. [1:25:53, 1:25:58]: I'm gonna uh give you guys a about a two minute video of where we are. [1:25:59, 1:26:02]: And this was as of uh earlier this afternoon. [1:26:06, 1:26:08]: So this is where we were exactly a year ago. [1:26:10, 1:26:12]: And this is where we are as of today. [1:26:16, 1:26:18]: That's a view down into the plaza. [1:26:20, 1:26:25]: You're looking at the uh uh roofs of the outer plaza buildings, the pavers are in. [1:26:26, 1:26:29]: The uh VIP canopy booths are in. [1:26:31, 1:26:39]: That's what these white uh fabric structures are. The soding going in at the uh terrace lawn seating area here. [1:26:41, 1:26:45]: Is actually in place. It's a little brown right now because it's out of season. [1:26:48, 1:26:50]: You can see that the fixed seating is in. [1:26:55, 1:27:01]: Sidewalks going down the through road along with Georgia Power site lighting. Tree planning started today for our landscaping. [1:27:04, 1:27:07]: There's a view to the three different detention ponds. [1:27:10, 1:27:13]: This would be the view that you would have from the um [1:27:15, 1:27:16]: Believe this is the terrace level. [1:27:17, 1:27:20]: Right above the uh fixed seating looking down at the stage. [1:27:21, 1:27:28]: Have a really nice view on across the amphitheater, a very strong architectural uh element there for the uh front of the stage. [1:27:30, 1:27:35]: It really casts a really nice glow in the in the uh late hours of the afternoon. [1:27:44, 1:27:48]: This is a little higher up in the amphitheater, actually up underneath uh the um [1:27:49, 1:27:50]: VIP seating. [1:27:51, 1:27:53]: Right out in front of the East Concessions. [1:27:54, 1:28:00]: What you're looking at are the affixed uh BIP seating area, uh the um drink rails. [1:28:01, 1:28:05]: That people will be able to set their drinks and their food on as they're watching the show. [1:28:15, 1:28:20]: Now this is the uh concessions we'll call in restroom building, starting with the West Concessions. [1:28:20, 1:28:22]: This would be the view from the uh through road. [1:28:23, 1:28:31]: So you're seeing the roofing, the masonry, the cast stone, the uh landscape paver walls and walkways. [1:28:36, 1:28:47]: That's the front entrance to the uh ticketing area. The actual glass is in and we're working on the uh canopies that'll go over that area. The area out in front is set for the uh pavers. [1:28:56, 1:29:10]: This would be one of the main um on-grade accesses into the uh plaza. So this would be basically where food trucks would uh come on in and set up through the uh plaza area. They would be able to drive through. [1:29:10, 1:29:11]: This area here. [1:29:15, 1:29:17]: That's the main restroom building. [1:29:22, 1:29:26]: And this is the entry area uh adjacent the East Concessions. [1:29:29, 1:29:31]: basically comes out of city hall parking. [1:29:37, 1:29:40]: We're gonna swing the uh camera view on around here. [1:29:41, 1:29:45]: There's the catwalk that'll lead you up to the uh terrace level. [1:29:59, 1:30:11]: There's a lot of handrail work and guardrail work that's been ongoing. In front of the uh East Concessions, obviously the masonry is is uh well in place, the steel is there. [1:30:11, 1:30:22]: Uh the uh aluminum canopy has actually started and the uh overhead coiling doors are in. So that space is uh fully closed off. Um the um [1:30:23, 1:30:26]: The stone countertops are actually in place as well. [1:30:28, 1:30:30]: The interior of the uh [1:30:31, 1:30:35]: Concessions areas have the uh epoxy floors. [1:30:36, 1:30:43]: They're underway now. Interior finishes are are well underway throughout all the buildings and nearing completion. [1:30:48, 1:31:01]: That uh that gets us all the way over to the East Concession, starting our our outriggers there for the canopies, stone uh stone countertops are also in, as well as the uh concession overhead coiling doors. [1:31:03, 1:31:05]: Got a little bit of work left on the fascia. [1:31:06, 1:31:11]: That's the main catering area. That's where the artists will be gathering prior to their performances. [1:31:12, 1:31:13]: It's very [1:31:13, 1:31:15]: Interesting ceiling. [1:31:15, 1:31:17]: Very colorful, very dynamic. [1:31:20, 1:31:25]: Very nice lighting inside of that area, cabinetry and stone countertops. [1:31:28, 1:31:30]: And these are the makeup areas. [1:31:31, 1:31:33]: Tile walls and lighted mirrors. [1:31:36, 1:31:43]: This is the interior of the uh terrace level restrooms, wall tile, uh toilet compartments, hand dryers. [1:31:44, 1:31:47]: And this is a interior shot of the concessions area. [1:31:52, 1:32:03]: And that is basically just an overall view. We have the uh asphalt uh binder in for the uh front parking area uh coming on up uh with the uh plaza roadway. [1:32:05, 1:32:16]: We have a little bit of a binder left to do all the way on out to um East Atlanta. Our lower parking lot is ready for its topping. Have some work to do over at the um [1:32:16, 1:32:20]: through roadway, um entrance on to uh North Lee Street. [1:32:23, 1:32:25]: So things are moving along quite well. [1:32:26, 1:32:28]: Been very busy these last two months. [1:32:36, 1:32:39]: Hey Kurt, can I ask the question now? You're done with the presentation, sir? [1:32:39, 1:32:40]: Yes, sir, I am. [1:32:40, 1:32:50]: Okay, in the uh the permanent seating up front, there's an open space. Is that still gonna be uh some tables of permanent tables of schedule to go there, tables and chairs? Or is that where was that again? [1:32:51, 1:32:58]: In the very front of the permanent seats. The permanent seats. Right right in front of the stage. Yes. Down in front there. Yes. [1:32:58, 1:33:03]: Are are there tables and chairs or split permit seating for there as well? [1:33:03, 1:33:23]: Uh there's not permanent seating, but there would be um tables that would be set up for the actual shows, I believe. Okay. All right. Right. Yes. Yes. Okay, no problem. And the other last time you gave a presentation, sir, I wanted to find out uh when we might have a grand opening, and you gave me the time frame of possibility. [1:33:23, 1:33:28]: possibly May, late May, right around Memorial Day weekend. Is that still your estimate in that aspect? [1:33:29, 1:33:39]: Uh I definitely believe the buildings are well in advance of the um rest of the site work over here uh for the additional parking areas. Um [1:33:40, 1:33:45]: So yes, I would say that would be a uh a uh safe. [1:33:45, 1:33:46]: Opening day. [1:33:48, 1:33:48]: All right. [1:33:49, 1:33:51]: Depending upon the overall um [1:33:52, 1:33:58]: approval on the uh phase two work and getting released to move that forward. [1:33:59, 1:34:03]: Whether depending, I believe everything could be wrapped up by the middle of June, I believe. [1:34:05, 1:34:19]: All right. But this pandemic is still among us, so that'd be Yes sir, it is. Thank you, sir. Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Thank you. Uh Mr. Vaughn, thank you uh for this presentation. [1:34:20, 1:34:22]: Can you pan to the [1:34:23, 1:34:27]: out of perimeter of the data over by the um [1:34:27, 1:34:28]: Pons [1:34:29, 1:34:30]: Um [1:34:31, 1:34:34]: And the way I'm looking at it would be to the far left. [1:34:40, 1:34:40]: Am I quite? [1:34:41, 1:34:48]: My question and I tried to go back and look. Yes, I tried to go back and see. [1:34:48, 1:34:52]: There is a temporary uh fence. [1:34:52, 1:34:53]: There [1:34:53, 1:34:58]: Uh and Mr. Night, you may be able to answer this. I I tried to go back to some of the earlier renderings. [1:34:58, 1:35:00]: I I could recall [1:35:01, 1:35:02]: What permanent [1:35:03, 1:35:07]: security um and I'm not talking about cameras or lighting. [1:35:07, 1:35:09]: Uh some type of fencing. [1:35:10, 1:35:13]: Some type of barrier that will separate [1:35:13, 1:35:16]: Um the the homeowner's property. [1:35:16, 1:35:20]: And the actual uh campus of the amphitheater. [1:35:24, 1:35:31]: Right. Is that as I remember and maybe Kirk or Carl can speak to this as well, but as I remember there would be a buffer. [1:35:32, 1:35:34]: Some type of vegetated buffer along [1:35:35, 1:35:41]: That back property line, those prop those properties that back are off of Bryant Street, I believe you're referring to. [1:35:42, 1:35:46]: A um natural buffer and I can't remember, was there a fence? [1:35:46, 1:35:47]: Um as well. [1:35:48, 1:35:50]: Along that back property line. [1:35:51, 1:35:52]: I do not believe so. [1:35:53, 1:35:53]: Okay. [1:35:54, 1:36:00]: Well, I I would highly recommend and I guess we can sort of discuss this as we go, but [1:36:00, 1:36:05]: Um I I really think it's going to take um I think there's a need. [1:36:06, 1:36:09]: For um some type of um [1:36:10, 1:36:13]: Secure defense uh along that line. [1:36:13, 1:36:17]: But you know, we we can talk about it later, but um Yeah. [1:36:17, 1:36:18]: Yeah, right. [1:36:18, 1:36:19]: I'm sorry. [1:36:20, 1:36:22]: Now I'm just gonna say I I just think it's needed. [1:36:22, 1:36:25]: Mm, okay. Yeah. I know you mentioned that before and [1:36:25, 1:36:29]: The issue of security and people navigating onto the [1:36:29, 1:36:32]: property uh at off hours or off times. [1:36:33, 1:36:35]: Um, I think is the main thing, but we do have [1:36:35, 1:36:41]: Uh also the the ponds and the and the park like setting that we will have on the amphitheater as well. [1:36:41, 1:36:42]: But I I [1:36:42, 1:36:43]: Yes. [1:36:43, 1:36:45]: We'll seek to address that. [1:36:45, 1:36:46]: Okay. [1:36:48, 1:36:49]: Thank you. [1:36:49, 1:36:50]: Other questions. [1:36:50, 1:36:51]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:36:53, 1:37:05]: Let me unmute here. Uh Mr. Knight, I'm trying to remember on the on the park like setting, would this be a pedestrian area also? Would they be able to walk this park or would there be walkways for the park? [1:37:06, 1:37:14]: Right. The intent of all of this and we're gonna talk a bit a little bit more about that and show some graphics in the um uh when we talk about the next item on the on the change order item. [1:37:15, 1:37:21]: But the intent was to take these detention ponds and have them as amenities to allow people to be able [1:37:21, 1:37:27]: To come and sit with certain benches benches and and walking areas in and around the pond so that they could enjoy. [1:37:28, 1:37:34]: the um atmosphere of what would be an additional park, if you will, for the city of Stockbridge, even [1:37:34, 1:37:38]: uh on on off hours. We wanted to really create something that [1:37:39, 1:37:41]: Um was estetically pleasing. [1:37:42, 1:37:43]: And um [1:37:44, 1:37:47]: You know, since we have an opportunity with this particular project, we can create [1:37:48, 1:37:51]: A park type setting in and around the detention ponds. [1:37:51, 1:37:54]: Uh, have them uh very well maintained and manicured. [1:37:55, 1:37:59]: um to be something that uh citizens can uh citizens can enjoy. [1:38:00, 1:38:06]: even on uh amphitheater event nights, but perhaps even different points in time um during the week. [1:38:06, 1:38:10]: Well, uh a follow up to that then I agree with uh Councilman Thomas. [1:38:11, 1:38:14]: What would keep anybody from coming through the vegetation? [1:38:14, 1:38:18]: uh to the park and then walking into the amphitheater doing the shows. [1:38:19, 1:38:22]: If I could answer that, sir, the um amphitheater itself. [1:38:23, 1:38:30]: Around the uh rear parking lot and the main amphitheater walls is contained by a fence. [1:38:30, 1:38:38]: in between each one of those plaza buildings through the openings, it is it's it's not shown yet. [1:38:40, 1:38:53]: But these areas all have uh lockable gates in between each one of these plaza buildings. So nobody should be able to just come after hours and walk into the amphitheater or to that lower parking lot behind it. [1:38:55, 1:38:56]: Then the follow up to that then [1:38:56, 1:38:59]: Because I'm still agreeing with councilman Thomas. [1:39:00, 1:39:03]: someone that's enjoying the part prior to the show. [1:39:04, 1:39:09]: What would keep them from dealing with outsiders that haven't paid to come in to come through? [1:39:10, 1:39:21]: come through the vegetated area into the park to deal to when they think they're coming to a show that's enclosed safe and they've got the park where the show's gonna be, how do we we have to have some type of um [1:39:21, 1:39:29]: enclosure other than vegetation because we have to make sure that we're maintaining a level of comfort and security because all it takes is one. [1:39:35, 1:39:39]: Well, I think when Kirk mentioned some of the other barriers there. [1:39:40, 1:39:45]: Obviously people who are coming into the amphitheater are gonna have to have some type of tiffit ticket. [1:39:45, 1:39:48]: save free events. We're gonna also have to have security there. [1:39:48, 1:39:52]: Um as well. And just just like any other amphitheater. [1:39:52, 1:39:56]: uh project and venue. You're gonna have to have necessary security. [1:39:56, 1:40:02]: uh to be able to keep those who desire to be in in and those who desire who should not be in [1:40:03, 1:40:04]: Um out. [1:40:04, 1:40:13]: Uh so you know, I think the combination of some of the natural and man-made barriers that are there in com in combination with security on site. [1:40:14, 1:40:16]: uh will uh address that problem. [1:40:17, 1:40:19]: Uh and of course with any venue. [1:40:20, 1:40:28]: Uh once you have a couple of events, uh you have data and and information that you can use to address any problems that occur. [1:40:29, 1:40:30]: In the future. [1:40:38, 1:40:47]: Mayor. Yes, sir. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Councilman Thomas. I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir. Yeah. Um Mr. Nine, I I would recommend um [1:40:47, 1:40:51]: To for you and your staff or courage someone to do some research. [1:40:52, 1:40:55]: Um, I'm just a little concerned about that. [1:40:55, 1:40:58]: From the corner of East Atlanta Road. [1:40:59, 1:41:02]: All the way down to Berk Street and around [1:41:03, 1:41:09]: Um I'm not really sure what what all that entails as far as fencing and security, but [1:41:10, 1:41:14]: I would think that there would need to be some type of fencing. [1:41:15, 1:41:18]: From that corner of East Atlanta Road. [1:41:19, 1:41:23]: All the way around around the perimeter, really, all around in the back. [1:41:24, 1:41:26]: All the way up until the um [1:41:27, 1:41:31]: into the to into the the driveway through the gate through [1:41:31, 1:41:32]: Um [1:41:34, 1:41:41]: I'll I'll just leave it at that. If if you could research that and bring some numbers back, but I I just think we're gonna need more than [1:41:41, 1:41:43]: Vegetation and [1:41:43, 1:41:46]: Um security guards, you know. [1:41:46, 1:41:47]: It's [1:41:48, 1:41:54]: Well, right. I I understand and concern and the ones that I've looked at. I looked at one in L Lagrange, visited that one. [1:41:55, 1:41:59]: They had fencing just like Kirk talked about. I think the one in Peace Tree City we went to. [1:41:59, 1:42:03]: had uh similar type fencing between between buildings. [1:42:04, 1:42:10]: Um during off hours. The one thing, and and we'll certainly go back and take a further look at it as the council desire. [1:42:11, 1:42:14]: But the one thing that we we want to balance is [1:42:14, 1:42:16]: uh having an inviting venue. [1:42:17, 1:42:21]: Верси гавни афос. [1:42:22, 1:42:24]: You know, we don't want to create this fortress look. [1:42:25, 1:42:28]: Ін араунди амфітер і Сіті Гал кампас. [1:42:28, 1:42:33]: So it's a balance there, but um given the council comments, we'll go back and take another look at uh the best. [1:42:34, 1:42:37]: Mechanism to use to uh balance security. [1:42:37, 1:42:40]: And also uh ensure it's an inviting venue. [1:42:43, 1:42:45]: Councilwoman Barber, do you have any comments at all, please? [1:42:50, 1:42:54]: Um no, I don't have any comments relative to the прогрес. [1:42:55, 1:42:56]: Or the project. No. [1:42:57, 1:42:59]: Mirable Tim Alexander. I think though. [1:43:00, 1:43:00]: Okay. [1:43:01, 1:43:02]: Um, let me see. [1:43:03, 1:43:05]: Can you hear me? Yeah, go ahead. Yes, we can. [1:43:05, 1:43:15]: Yeah, I just wanna talk about the uh the project um uh overall in terms of uh I l I see uh Kirk indicated that the pavers are down. [1:43:16, 1:43:22]: Is there just a a strip of pavers? I was believing that the entire area was supposed to be pavers. [1:43:22, 1:43:27]: Uh, so that uh residents could actually purchase a brick or something I thought we had discussed. [1:43:33, 1:43:36]: Councilman Alexander, if you can see [1:43:37, 1:43:41]: Over here to the left in front of the West Concessions that [1:43:42, 1:43:45]: Bold gray line that is a paper strip. [1:43:45, 1:43:52]: Here in between the Will Call and the main restrooms, this whole entire area is bordered by gray pavers. [1:43:52, 1:43:55]: And then this center area is also. [1:43:57, 1:43:58]: Favors. [1:43:59, 1:44:02]: Oh okay, okay. Just ca it look it does not okay. [1:44:02, 1:44:18]: And then those paver areas, if you see over here in between the east concessions and the uh main restrooms, that gray paver band is at the top of the steps. And then this lower area here as you enter in out of the city hall parking lot. [1:44:19, 1:44:35]: That area has pavers. Pavers will run all the way out to the street through the on-grade access. And also over here in between the West Concessions and the Will Call, that area also has uh pavers and um [1:44:36, 1:44:37]: concrete walking surfaces in it. [1:44:38, 1:44:38]: So [1:44:39, 1:44:43]: What you're seeing here is probably about fifty percent of the overall paper. [1:44:44, 1:44:50]: So uh the the uh rendering that we saw, there were uh like reddish color. Is there gonna be painting to them or how does that work? [1:44:51, 1:44:56]: Uh we have two different colors, the uh slate gray, and then this um [1:44:57, 1:45:04]: Oh, I forget the actual name of that, but that is a cream color paper there. Um I [1:45:05, 1:45:07]: There weren't any red ones actually specified. [1:45:10, 1:45:21]: Okay. Um okay, and then the um the overall progress and uh completion of the this physical structure here, not inclusive of the part. [1:45:23, 1:45:24]: Uh [1:45:25, 1:45:28]: We're looking um for this section. [1:45:29, 1:45:31]: Early March, I believe. [1:45:34, 1:45:34]: Okay. [1:45:35, 1:45:40]: Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. Uh Councilwoman Gantt, do you have any questions at all? [1:45:42, 1:45:43]: Um, no, I don't. [1:45:45, 1:45:45]: Okay. [1:45:46, 1:45:48]: Kurt, is there anything else you need to present to us today, sir? [1:45:49, 1:45:49]: No, sir. [1:45:51, 1:46:00]: Okay, I believe if there are no more questions, uh thank you, Kurt, uh, for your presentation. Uh yeah, thank you for having me, and I'll turn the screen back over. [1:46:00, 1:46:04]: Okay. And Carl, did you have anything to add during this time frame, sir? [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: Yeah, yes, um [1:46:11, 1:46:31]: Getting close to the end of the project, um, I just would like to um commend the uh uh the contactor and the designers um in pulling together what now uh it's come together as a very uh high quality facility, high quality install installations, constructions and methods. [1:46:31, 1:46:51]: uh and and really great design um and i commend uh uh heather is here with the team and um hj russell re kirk is heading team he's got several of his members here uh just how they've worked together uh community very well [1:46:51, 1:46:55]: well during the project, uh shared ideas, worked through [1:46:56, 1:47:01]: uh difficulties and and challenges and [1:47:01, 1:47:04]: Very good job. Um [1:47:04, 1:47:13]: I've been in blenders of projects over my career and you can really tell when you got working together, has a common talk, uh common goal. [1:47:14, 1:47:21]: uh and they performed very, very well. So I mean all of the team that that's put the effort into bringing this together. [1:47:23, 1:47:25]: Appreciate it. Thank you very much. [1:47:26, 1:47:30]: Didn't know Heather, I know you're online. Didn't know if you had any comments on this particular issue for right now at all. [1:47:34, 1:47:35]: Um [1:47:35, 1:47:36]: Good evening. [1:47:36, 1:47:44]: Um yeah, I would just like to echo uh Carl's sentiments. Um, you know, I think the team has worked very well, very hard. [1:47:44, 1:47:51]: uh together to get to where we are. Uh and I look forward to celebrating with you on opening day. [1:47:51, 1:47:59]: Outstanding. Appreciate that. Follow up, sir. Yeah, go right here, Mary Putin. Uh yeah, the heather who chose the color of this of the papers? [1:48:00, 1:48:02]: Sure, yes, glad to talk about this. [1:48:02, 1:48:05]: Uh, we did talk about it a couple of times through the process. [1:48:05, 1:48:07]: Um there was a want uh [1:48:07, 1:48:10]: for from the council to have red papers [1:48:10, 1:48:11]: Um [1:48:11, 1:48:12]: To [1:48:12, 1:48:15]: We cannot match a vehicle related paver. [1:48:16, 1:48:20]: To the vertical pavers on both the city hall and amphitheater buildings. [1:48:20, 1:48:21]: Um the only [1:48:22, 1:48:31]: vehicle related paver turns out to be a pink paver over time, uh and not wanting your amphitheater to have a clash between kind of the beautiful brick that we're [1:48:31, 1:48:33]: replicating on the city hall. [1:48:34, 1:48:36]: And uh a pink paver. [1:48:36, 1:48:41]: Um the decision was made to do gray and tan, uh, which will allow you to [1:48:42, 1:48:45]: Have food trucks coming into uh [1:48:45, 1:48:48]: the actual uh amphitheater proper. [1:48:48, 1:48:50]: So kind of in front of those boundary buildings. [1:48:50, 1:48:51]: Um [1:48:51, 1:48:52]: So [1:48:52, 1:48:56]: That is why we have the both tan and the gray pavers. [1:48:56, 1:48:59]: It was the best look we could achieve over time. [1:49:00, 1:49:01]: Uh and kind of avoid. [1:49:01, 1:49:02]: Uh a a pink. [1:49:03, 1:49:07]: paper, which would be what we could get out of a vehicle related paper. [1:49:08, 1:49:09]: Okay, thank you. [1:49:09, 1:49:10]: Чу? [1:49:11, 1:49:22]: All right, we'll move on to the next item, council consideration to approve amphitheater change order in amount in an amount of two million three hundred and seventy-one uh thousand nine hundred and twenty-two dollars and seventy-seven cents. [1:49:23, 1:49:26]: financing or funding source with bond and splots five. [1:49:27, 1:49:29]: Mr. Knighton, Kirk, and Carl, please. [1:49:31, 1:49:39]: All right, yes, it would be uh meet, myself, and Carl on this one, uh, mayor and council. Okay, uh, to discuss this item with you. We have provided you with. [1:49:40, 1:49:44]: uh the detailed documents related to uh this proposed change order. [1:49:45, 1:49:49]: This change order uh has arisen as a result of the main parking. [1:49:49, 1:49:51]: And the enhanced landscape. [1:49:52, 1:49:57]: Excuse me, land enhanced landscape design around the detention ponds. As you remember. [1:49:58, 1:50:05]: Uh the soils uh had issues there uh previously, and there's quite a bit of work that had to be done to address unsuitable soils previously. [1:50:05, 1:50:09]: And the increase from I believe it was one detention pond initially. [1:50:09, 1:50:13]: To now three uh detention ponds. And again, as I mentioned earlier. [1:50:13, 1:50:17]: There was a necessity t or there was a thought to go ahead and utilize. [1:50:18, 1:50:21]: those detention ponds as an amenity and create the [1:50:21, 1:50:23]: Environment around them. [1:50:24, 1:50:25]: That would be um [1:50:26, 1:50:28]: Pristine that would be [1:50:28, 1:50:28]: Um [1:50:29, 1:50:30]: Bucalic. [1:50:30, 1:50:34]: А то бил то критик філ. [1:50:34, 1:50:39]: around those detention ponds. And so that is what uh this change order. [1:50:39, 1:50:40]: relates to. [1:50:41, 1:50:45]: Um, I will just go over something very briefly here and then Carl can speak. [1:50:45, 1:50:47]: Uh, to the details of a change order. [1:50:48, 1:50:50]: Um i as as necessary. [1:50:51, 1:50:55]: Um you may recall that uh over a month ago, late December. [1:50:55, 1:50:59]: uh signaled that this is something that was going to come. [1:50:59, 1:51:02]: Uh at that time uh we were working through it. [1:51:02, 1:51:05]: But I knew this would this would item would come. [1:51:05, 1:51:08]: In order for us uh and the c and for the project. [1:51:09, 1:51:11]: To be completed at the level. [1:51:11, 1:51:14]: uh that the uh council uh would like to see. [1:51:15, 1:51:18]: So if I can share screen, I'll attempt to share screen here. [1:51:19, 1:51:20]: Just a moment. [1:51:33, 1:51:35]: What happened here? Let me see. [1:51:36, 1:51:37]: All right, let me see if I can [1:51:38, 1:51:40]: Pull this up. Okay, here we go. [1:51:41, 1:51:43]: All right, can everybody [1:51:45, 1:51:45]: Everybody see that? [1:51:47, 1:51:48]: Just yet. Okay, there we go. [1:51:48, 1:51:50]: Okay, he's got it. Okay. [1:51:50, 1:51:52]: All right, I'll try to um [1:51:54, 1:51:55]: We go. All right. [1:51:57, 1:52:06]: To go through this uh uh very briefly here. Um, what you have here, if you can follow my cursor, of course, here's the amphitheater toward the bottom of the screen. [1:52:07, 1:52:11]: And then you're looking at the park. Here's East Atlanta Road here on the far left corner. [1:52:12, 1:52:13]: And you see all of the parking. [1:52:14, 1:52:20]: It goes back to uh the property line back there at Bryant or the Bryant Street properties that we talked about. [1:52:20, 1:52:22]: So all of this in and around this area. [1:52:23, 1:52:27]: Is proposed to be parking. A part of the parking scenario. [1:52:28, 1:52:30]: Um it once it's constructed. [1:52:30, 1:52:35]: Is to demolish uh this old house uh as you can see right there on my cursor. [1:52:35, 1:52:40]: Um and throughout the um detention ponds, of course, in blue. [1:52:41, 1:52:45]: Um there is um a schematic. [1:52:45, 1:52:48]: That will have uh terraced bioswales. [1:52:48, 1:52:50]: Um wetland walkways. [1:52:51, 1:52:59]: Um, you know, open park space, um, cypress groves, um, and you'll have all of these different things that create. [1:53:00, 1:53:03]: um that park-like atmosphere as well as as you can see [1:53:03, 1:53:06]: trees that line the internal roadway. [1:53:09, 1:53:12]: Go down Mr. Ball. And I'll I'll of course let Heather in [1:53:12, 1:53:17]: Her team speak to this as well as as needed. Here are just some examples. [1:53:17, 1:53:24]: of different types of venues that have uh this one has water features, water features again, and how some of these [1:53:24, 1:53:30]: Um items can uh be uh carefully constructed around water features to create the environment. [1:53:31, 1:53:43]: uh that we want uh and that's something that can be uh really nice uh enhancement for the amphitheater project. You'll see the one on the upper left there and then some of the other examples um through here. [1:53:45, 1:53:52]: At this point I'll turn it over to um uh I guess Carl f or maybe Heather first, since Heather can speak to [1:53:52, 1:53:58]: Uh the He Heather and her team can speak to the enhanced landscaping in and around the amphitheater area. [1:54:01, 1:54:02]: Sure, uh thank you. [1:54:03, 1:54:05]: Um I am going to call on um [1:54:06, 1:54:11]: Peyton Peterson, um, who is our landscape architect, on the phone tonight to talk about the landscape. [1:54:13, 1:54:16]: Sure. Thank you, Heather. Good evening, everyone. Can everyone hear me okay? [1:54:17, 1:54:18]: Yes. Yes. Great. [1:54:19, 1:54:39]: Okay, so Mr. Knighton touched on I think some of the big key elements here, um, just echoing his um conversations. So the the ponds grew in a response to the additional impervious area um that is the parking lot now. So the the pond sizing is now um sized. [1:54:39, 1:54:59]: To handle the impervious runoff that will be coming from the parking lot areas. Some of the key features that were mentioned were the three tiered pond systems. The one that is labeled J, that is more in the center of the screen, right where Mr. Knighton is highlighting, is a continuous wet pond. [1:54:58, 1:55:05]: So in perpetuity, it will always contain water. Um, and it has we are proposing a um [1:55:05, 1:55:12]: Fountain spray in the middle of it that will spray water up in the air. I know you all have seen um are familiar with Sugar Hill. [1:55:12, 1:55:17]: uh amphitheater their wet pond behind their amphitheater. So it'd be a similar look to that. [1:55:18, 1:55:19]: Ponds in [1:55:19, 1:55:23]: Um that are the middle in the lower tier pond next to the existing creek. [1:55:24, 1:55:25]: Or um [1:55:25, 1:55:38]: what we call detention ponds in the sense that they could have water uh in them during a heavy rain event, storm event, um, but they could also during a dry spell have no water contained in the bottom of them. [1:55:38, 1:55:58]: Um there is a network of sidewalk paths that go around the upper and middle pond. Um so there is a loop trail system that is paved that goes around this um this park-like setting. Um and there's the large promenade walk that is up. [1:55:58, 1:56:02]: Up at the very closer to the left hand side of the screen. [1:56:02, 1:56:03]: Um [1:56:03, 1:56:06]: That runs parallel with the [1:56:06, 1:56:08]: Um parking. [1:56:09, 1:56:09]: Up there. [1:56:11, 1:56:31]: is it's a wide pedestrian walkway that will gather the mass amounts of people that are coming to the amphitheater for an event. Um and we also have an overlook um sort of it's number D right there that overlooks the ponds and the uh terrace landscape because this does it does sit on a um pretty dramatic hillside there. So [1:56:31, 1:56:37]: If Mr. Knight flips back to the example images real quick. [1:56:38, 1:56:58]: Thank you. So the the overlook system would be something like you're seeing in this top centered image. We're visioning benches up there, a nice setting where you you can overlook the ponds. Again, uh that first pond that's closest to the overlook in the in the preliminary plane does have water in perpetuity. [1:56:58, 1:57:01]: [7021.7, 7031.1]: And then we're also proposing a um some open lawn space where people could put down a um picnic blanket um if they want to have a lunch out there or whatnot. [1:57:11, 1:57:12]: Um [1:57:12, 1:57:23]: Promenade walk would be wide, similar to what you're seeing in the top left-hand corner. And um these are just some of the main features that we have uh programmed into this space. [1:57:27, 1:57:28]: Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. [1:57:30, 1:57:31]: I don't know. [1:57:33, 1:57:35]: All right. Anything else? Re uh [1:57:37, 1:57:37]: Well [1:57:38, 1:57:44]: Well, Carl could kind of speak to briefly the the change order aspects of things and [1:57:44, 1:57:50]: Um the manner in which um the team went through and scrubbed the numbers. [1:57:50, 1:57:52]: Uh to come to the overall figure. [1:57:53, 1:57:55]: Okay. Um [1:57:56, 1:58:10]: Thank you again, Mayor and Council of Persons. Just real briefly, we have received the pricing that you've uh had presented to you for this. [1:58:10, 1:58:30]: Uh two project uh from Russell. You can see in your package that we received uh quite an extensive breakdown of all the costs of this phase of the project, uh which allowed um designers uh to um [1:58:30, 1:58:39]: Um to uh to really di uh take a deep dive into the the cost of the product to be able to uh as Randy said, rub this. Um [1:58:39, 1:58:41]: Describe the numbers to make sure that we were getting [1:58:42, 1:59:02]: uh a uh competitive number, uh an accurate number for this uh this phase of the project. Um the team has spent quite a bit of time as rubbing these um and just to give you an idea the number uh Kirk provided them to us for this for the project was a little over two [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: point six million [1:59:04, 1:59:24]: uh but through uh verification of quantities, little unit prices, uh perk allowing uh myself and the team to have direct access to the subcontract uh uh we will to um uh to refine the numbers [1:59:24, 1:59:40]: uh to um uh get the scope correct, uh make sure that the subcontractors under scope correctly, uh and that the price of the very work um were uh competitive and met um what uh [1:59:41, 2:00:01]: I and the designers thought uh they should be based on uh our knowledge of the industry through historic cost data. Um so we're uh very pleased with where we've landed on this number. Um I I believe it to be a very competitive number uh and uh and recommending [2:00:01, 2:00:20]: that uh uh the council approved this number so that uh we can get started on this way. Um if you do approve this, I believe Kirk is chomping at the bet to start uh pulling the permits and and get the team over over on the other side of the road, as we say, and uh get started on this second phase. [2:00:20, 2:00:24]: Uh so I'll I'll entertain any additional questions you have about pricing. [2:00:24, 2:00:28]: Thank you, Carl. Appreciate that. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, go ahead, please, sir. [2:00:29, 2:00:34]: Yes, thank you, sir. Uh real quick on the trails uh in the park. [2:00:34, 2:00:41]: um park area. Are those uh ten foot wide trails, eight foot wide? Tell me what what are those? [2:00:43, 2:00:45]: Inside the park area. [2:00:46, 2:00:49]: Oh sure. Carl, I can take that if you'd like. [2:00:49, 2:00:54]: Yeah, I can think Falcon will be able to design uh answer that and they're not on the call tonight, so uh go ahead. [2:00:55, 2:01:00]: Sure, so the l outer loop uh sidewalk. [2:01:00, 2:01:16]: is a 12 foot wide sidewalk. The promenade that is at the um top of the pond system running adjacent to the parking is wider than that. It's about 15 feet wide uh just because of the sheer number of volume of people that will be accessing it from [2:01:16, 2:01:20]: that promenade ac accessing the amphitheater from that promenade walk. [2:01:20, 2:01:24]: I should also say that that promenade walk is an ADA accessible route. [2:01:25, 2:01:27]: Okay, so the the the the [2:01:28, 2:01:31]: The basically the the box around the park is [2:01:31, 2:01:33]: You said that was uh twelve feet. [2:01:34, 2:01:35]: Yes. [2:01:35, 2:01:37]: Okay, and then the uh [2:01:37, 2:01:39]: Uh bordering the parking lot. That's fourteen. [2:01:40, 2:01:45]: uh feet. Now I see a D marked overlook. Tell me about the overlook. What's [2:01:46, 2:01:48]: Sure, so this um [2:01:49, 2:02:09]: I don't know how familiar if you've seen the site to date, but it's on a big hillside essentially. And the D marker right now is the high point of the pond system. And um we have created an area where it's a wider plaza that would have benches and would serve as an [2:02:09, 2:02:16]: overlook similar to this image that's right this image at the top of the screen. Right here. That's what it would generally look like. [2:02:17, 2:02:17]: Yes. [2:02:18, 2:02:24]: Okay, that would be generally look like. Is there is like the bottom part where that fence switch back to that photo. [2:02:25, 2:02:25]: Yeah. [2:02:26, 2:02:29]: So is that is that No fencing, no fencing. [2:02:29, 2:02:36]: Okay, is there access right there at the p at the at the walk to walk so the w the walking trail would actually border [2:02:36, 2:02:43]: The uh water feature uh right. If I go back here, you see where my cursor is? This is the walking trail. [2:02:44, 2:02:46]: Around [2:02:48, 2:02:51]: And this is the pond in question, but this is the walking trail around the pond. [2:02:52, 2:03:02]: So how in in real how far is that observation deck from the pond? So it's so is there no real sto I guess you'd stop along the trail if you wanted to overlook the water? [2:03:03, 2:03:04]: There's no like real [2:03:04, 2:03:07]: I guess observation deck right over the top of the water. [2:03:08, 2:03:12]: Um, I believe and I don't know off the top of my head. [2:03:13, 2:03:14]: But um I would [2:03:15, 2:03:16]: Just from [2:03:17, 2:03:25]: my my knowledge of the space. I believe it's about sixty feet um from maybe eighty feet from the [2:03:25, 2:03:28]: what's labeled D to that first wet pond. [2:03:28, 2:03:37]: Um it's not quite as far as you think. And the elevation game is actually what is a lot is pretty drastic. So the views you would have. [2:03:38, 2:03:42]: Plenty of ample views not only to this l wet jay pond here in the middle. [2:03:43, 2:03:46]: But all the way down the the park promenade. [2:03:47, 2:03:53]: Okay. E and it's connected to the main roadway there, correct? [2:03:54, 2:03:55]: That's correct. [2:03:57, 2:04:05]: Taken, can I follow up what you were talking about about the distance between D, the observation, and J, the pond? [2:04:05, 2:04:15]: Um that dimension across there is I don't think it's any more than forty feet. I think that's it's a lot closer than than probably what you said, uh Hayton. It's a little bit closer. [2:04:18, 2:04:20]: Thank you for that follow up. [2:04:20, 2:04:21]: Okay. [2:04:21, 2:04:23]: All right, okay, thank you. [2:04:24, 2:04:25]: Any other questions from the council? [2:04:26, 2:04:27]: Mayor. [2:04:27, 2:04:29]: Yeah, yes. Um go ahead, counselor. [2:04:30, 2:04:50]: I just wanted Kirk and and the rest of the team to know that it I'm amazed it's an absolutely beautiful project. And I thank them for trying to get some, you know, some move pretty fast for us considering the weather last year and other things that came in the way. Um I think it's absolutely beautiful. [2:04:49, 2:05:05]: Um I do want mayor and council to you know think and consider, you know, and I remember councilwoman Barber at one point had stated, you know, we need to make sure that we have everything. [2:05:05, 2:05:20]: in order all the numbers together. And so in the future, I just hope that we, you know, we're learning from this project what we need to do to make sure we have everything accounted for. And so I just want to say thanks to everyone who's working so diligently on it. [2:05:22, 2:05:24]: Great job. Council Men Blount, go ahead, please. [2:05:26, 2:05:29]: Uh yeah, I I the um [2:05:30, 2:05:33]: the buffering through from the from um [2:05:34, 2:05:38]: that we're gonna have up, that's gonna help control the noise on uh [2:05:38, 2:05:46]: throughout the uh surrounding communities. And and our second question to that, Mr. Knighton, uh, when we have these events or when we have this [2:05:47, 2:05:51]: So we will have uh sick we would have officers or security [2:05:51, 2:05:55]: That will monitor uh Brian and Lee Street, is that correct? [2:05:56, 2:05:58]: Yes, I absolutely would envision that. [2:05:58, 2:06:05]: Uh, even though of course we have plans to enhance Lee Street and East Atlanta Road to help facilitate traffic flow. [2:06:06, 2:06:11]: uh in and around the area. I think it would be absolutely imperative on event nights to have. [2:06:11, 2:06:31]: uh police officers uh there at key intersections to make sure traffic flows in and out. Of course, one of the things that we learned was which is important is customer experience. And we want to be able for customers to access the venue 3000 plus, to be able to get in and out safely as well as to exit in an expeditious fashion and do it safely. [2:06:31, 2:06:34]: So absolutely yes. [2:06:34, 2:06:44]: Yeah, I'm I'm and I'm looking more more uh at a at a combination of traffic control and and security. Right. [2:06:44, 2:06:47]: uh provision or security for the communities'cause uh [2:06:47, 2:06:50]: You know, you just want that to be put in place. Thanks. [2:06:50, 2:06:51]: Okay. [2:06:51, 2:06:53]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [2:06:55, 2:07:01]: Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um, considering this was a project that was already approved prior to me. [2:07:01, 2:07:03]: Um I just want to make sure that we finish it. [2:07:04, 2:07:07]: Um I do have some questions, but I know that [2:07:07, 2:07:09]: Mr. Carl [2:07:09, 2:07:11]: Um, Trevithan, I'm sorry. [2:07:12, 2:07:14]: I don't know his name. Is he still on? [2:07:14, 2:07:23]: Yes, Carl is on. Yes. Okay. Um, so he has taken a look at this change order, this$2.3 million change order. [2:07:23, 2:07:28]: Yes, absolutely. And several times and several times and several times. [2:07:28, 2:07:34]: And members of uh the team as well. And I I can I'll certainly let him speak to that, but uh to make sure [2:07:34, 2:07:40]: This number was scrubbed over and over again. I think he alluded to the fact that originally it started out over two point six million and now it's down to [2:07:41, 2:07:46]: two point three in chain. So it's probably two hundred and fifty thousand to three hundred thousand dollars saving over the last [2:07:47, 2:07:48]: I guess month or so. [2:07:48, 2:07:54]: month and a half or so as we were looking at the numbers over and over again. But I certainly would would defer to him to to confirm that. [2:07:55, 2:08:15]: Council Barber, um, as I mentioned when I first started that the package we were used for the change order uh has several sever lots of paid numbers of costs and quantities that uh were provided to us by the contractor and and and his subcontractors uh for the purpose, exact purpose that you're talking about. [2:08:15, 2:08:16]: Well [2:08:16, 2:08:24]: I and the designers could really take a deep dive into the costs, uh, not taking them at all for face value. [2:08:24, 2:08:40]: but rather given us um as much cost and quantity data as we could get so that we could compare that to what we believe cost should be based on historical cost data or just our general knowledge of the industry. [2:08:40, 2:09:00]: Um I can't speak for the other people of the team, but I have thorough years of experience from anywhere as a general contractor and as a development man that have been exposed to it have accumulated uh years and years and years of cost data and have used that knowledge and the and that uh cost data. [2:09:00, 2:09:20]: that I have uh to uh compare these numbers and scrub them. And I know the the designers have done the same thing just to make sure that um we understand the cost. We've made numerous adjustments to it from the original cost. And again I'll I'll commend Kirk and his team [2:09:20, 2:09:40]: for allowing uh us direct access to the subcontractors. And we met with some of them and went through uh all in detail what Chris is concerned about today and made the investments so that we could bring uh the cost in line with what we think it should be, so that the quantities uh are [2:09:40, 2:10:00]: correct that the subcontractor understood the scope of the work correctly. Uh it took us uh I don't know Kirk you might be able to speak I think it was six to seven weeks of back and forth to get these numbers to where they're at. And so it was a real team effort and and and I'm presenting my [2:10:00, 2:10:10]: recommendation to you because I have myself and have seen the team really take the deep dive necessary to make sure we've scrubbed this number back down to where it's a very competitive [2:10:11, 2:10:14]: number and and um should be considered by council. [2:10:14, 2:10:31]: Okay, so I do have um a couple of follow-up questions. So I was looking at some of the line items on here and one in particular was the last line item, line 31 that mentions a fee of 4%, that's$91,000. [2:10:32, 2:10:36]: It doesn't give a description of what that covers. Sure. [2:10:36, 2:10:39]: That is contractors profit. [2:10:39, 2:10:55]: Um so everything except the ninety-one thousand is cost that contract has that he's going to expend uh to do the project. So the ninety-one thousand is his profit to uh to do the project. And and I'll say this, four cents. [2:10:55, 2:11:00]: Razor thin for a contractor to be working on as far as margins go. So um [2:11:00, 2:11:02]: That's what that number's for. [2:11:02, 2:11:05]: Okay, so the 700 and [2:11:07, 2:11:11]: Sixty thousand dollar change order that was submitted or did Mr. Knight and leave. [2:11:12, 2:11:21]: I just had a question about a change order for unsuitable soil that was submitted earlier this year. Right. That is separate from this change order, correct? [2:11:21, 2:11:23]: That is correct, yes. That is correct. [2:11:23, 2:11:31]: So this$2.3 million change order, um, I know this only covers just a portion. [2:11:31, 2:11:46]: Uh this is phase two, only covering the parking and landscaping design. How much more do you think you will need to complete the construction of the entire amphitheater, including the parking lot? [2:11:46, 2:11:50]: The ponds, the landscaping, how much more? [2:11:50, 2:12:07]: Right. That that includes all of this. And I'll let Carl speak more definitively because believe me, I have some questions. Is this going to be enough to do all of this? Okay. In in there, there is a couple of contingencies. I'll let Carl speak to a couple of contingencies if we were to run into something. [2:12:07, 2:12:12]: But he called I asked him a direct question and Carl is here. He can he can confirm that. [2:12:12, 2:12:18]: Is this enough and will this take care of it? Are you comfortable telling the council that this will take care of these items? [2:12:19, 2:12:39]: Well, I think we need to uh I think we're totally talking about two separate things that I discussed with Randy. Um, because I have done and Randy didn't tell me if we are prepared to share these tonight, but I've done a kind of a deeper dive into the project. Um you know, all phases of the project and where we're at with [2:12:39, 2:12:45]: With with other change orders and other other cost issues that we've run into and have come up with a separate number. [2:12:46, 2:12:54]: uh that I believe and feel comfortable with that uh the the total project can be completed with and that number has contingencies in it. [2:12:54, 2:13:02]: This number that I'm asking for you to approve or that we're proposing to prove to approve tonight at 2.3 million. [2:13:02, 2:13:22]: the initial change order to the contractor to do uh the phase two part of the project so it's a it's a portion of the bigger pie that you're that you're alluding to um there i i think you've got to look at that the other set of numbers that i have have worked up for uh for you uh to look [2:13:22, 2:13:37]: look for the contingencies that would uh would be there in case we run into things that are unforeseen. Um sort of the additional costs that would be above and beyond this 2.3 million. So and Randy I'll I'll let you lead how much [2:13:37, 2:13:43]: You know, we we would want to uh get into this discussion on my overall projection for the project. [2:13:45, 2:13:47]: I was trying to pull that. I was trying to pull that. [2:13:49, 2:13:51]: Because I know that um so [2:13:52, 2:13:57]: Covering this change order, this this one specifically, the 2.3. [2:13:57, 2:14:12]: We're using um SPLOS and bonds to cover the threat. Okay. So I know that we um agreed to allocate the seven million dollars to complete the amphitheater. I'm just trying to see. [2:14:13, 2:14:22]: Right. I think right. I think I understand your question. I'm sorry, uh, Councilman Barber. Okay. So this change order two point three, then we allocated or what is proposed. [2:14:22, 2:14:25]: is seven million dollars to bond, okay. [2:14:25, 2:14:32]: So we've got that seven million dollars. And then remember there's three million dollars out there, just about three million dollars. [2:14:32, 2:14:33]: Or [2:14:33, 2:14:38]: the roads, the enhancement of the roads. Okay. And so when you put [2:14:38, 2:14:40]: Those funds together. [2:14:40, 2:14:56]: Um, is where we're we're we're trying to get to in terms of the overall number to bond. And I and Ed'll talk a little bit more about that piece of it when he gets when he gets there. Um, if there are any issues with respect to, for instance, the roads coming in. [2:14:56, 2:15:03]: at more than might be projected or or um allocated, if you will, because we don't know until we put it out. [2:15:03, 2:15:05]: To beard of what [2:15:05, 2:15:07]: Funds we would propose to use. [2:15:08, 2:15:09]: For that type of overage. [2:15:11, 2:15:12]: Which would be splashed fire. [2:15:14, 2:15:14]: Okay. [2:15:15, 2:15:27]: Okay, one last question. So um as it pertains to the equipment such as the sound systems, any other equipment that we're gonna need. [2:15:27, 2:15:35]: Will we be using money from fund balance for that, or will we be using the money from the bonds that we're requiring? [2:15:36, 2:15:41]: Okay, let me um and I'll let Heather mention this as well. Let me uh'cause we actually had this conversation. [2:15:42, 2:15:45]: А со не ампітетер і цел. [2:15:45, 2:15:48]: The vertical construction part, everything that you've approved. [2:15:49, 2:15:55]: Uh includes um the general speaker systems, the house lighting systems. [2:15:55, 2:15:56]: Um [2:15:57, 2:16:08]: uh includes the kitchen equipment that you saw um in the um uh green room um it includes let me see here uh [2:16:10, 2:16:15]: Things like the the really it and includes of course the seating that you saw, the fixed seating and all of that. [2:16:15, 2:16:18]: throughout the lower portion as well as the um [2:16:18, 2:16:19]: The uh [2:16:20, 2:16:22]: VIP section toward the back. [2:16:23, 2:16:27]: What really the equipment cost would be would be if [2:16:27, 2:16:31]: Uh uh what would be the furniture, for instance, for the green room. [2:16:31, 2:16:33]: Movable furnicer. [2:16:33, 2:16:36]: would be a cost that would have to be incurred. [2:16:36, 2:16:46]: if we were going to uh uh that would be a cost that'd have to be incurred movable type furniture not the fixed furniture that you're seeing the base the house lighting and a speaker system are included. [2:16:47, 2:16:49]: For some thрі театрика продукції, for instance. [2:16:50, 2:16:51]: Um [2:16:51, 2:16:52]: V [2:16:53, 2:16:56]: particular band or particular [2:16:56, 2:17:03]: um theater company, they may bring in some enhanced lighting or enhanced speaker system. [2:17:03, 2:17:10]: And that's fair, as I understand it, that's fairly common in the industry if they wanted to have something in addition to that. And I would ask Heather to [2:17:10, 2:17:12]: To speak to that as well. [2:17:14, 2:17:14]: [8236.5, 8238.5]: Oh, I'm sorry. [2:17:18, 2:17:19]: Yes. [2:17:19, 2:17:22]: Uh uh Mr. Knightness is correct. So [2:17:22, 2:17:23]: Um [2:17:24, 2:17:26]: Fixed equipment, uh [2:17:26, 2:17:27]: Fixed, you know. [2:17:27, 2:17:29]: Your dishwasher uh [2:17:30, 2:17:32]: You sinks, um [2:17:32, 2:17:34]: Equipment in the kitchens. [2:17:35, 2:17:35]: Um [2:17:36, 2:17:40]: Are all fixed items are all provided, so it's really movable furniture. [2:17:41, 2:17:44]: desk and chairs, uh folding chairs. [2:17:44, 2:17:46]: Things of that sort that have not been included. [2:17:47, 2:17:48]: Um the amphitheater. [2:17:48, 2:17:51]: is coming with a basic speaker system. [2:17:52, 2:17:55]: uh as well as the ability to do [2:17:55, 2:17:58]: uh kind of talking head productions so [2:17:58, 2:17:58]: Uh [2:17:58, 2:18:03]: you know, very easily you can hook in a mic and you know have a city function. [2:18:04, 2:18:04]: Um [2:18:05, 2:18:05]: For [2:18:06, 2:18:08]: Things that might be community theater. [2:18:08, 2:18:15]: uh that you might do with partners in the community, you may want to supplement what is already in place. Uh there is [2:18:15, 2:18:17]: ways that this can be kind of [2:18:17, 2:18:18]: A beefed up. [2:18:19, 2:18:19]: Um [2:18:19, 2:18:26]: So but that would be, you know, discussions between community partners and the city as far as other pieces you want to supplement. [2:18:26, 2:18:31]: Uh but there is basic lighting in place as well as uh audio uh and sound. [2:18:33, 2:18:34]: Okay. [2:18:35, 2:18:35]: Thank you. [2:18:36, 2:18:38]: Castleman Blount, go ahead, please. [2:18:39, 2:18:41]: Uh yeah, just real quick, um [2:18:42, 2:18:52]: This is one of the you know, the questions that are being asked are good uh uh excellent questions to get information. Uh one of the things that we s we don't know, we don't know what the cost of uh [2:18:52, 2:18:58]: the movable equipment's gonna be and we don't know what the cost for the demolition and the building of the uh ticketing office. [2:18:59, 2:19:07]: And this is one thing that I have continued to petition this council to do, that we all get the information we need to make sound decisions when it comes to this amphitheater. [2:19:08, 2:19:11]: Uh when we're talking about binding that we're gonna have on the [2:19:11, 2:19:31]: agenda uh shortly when we talk about bunding, get all the information to make sound decisions because then we get into the project and next thing you know, we're getting change orders or we're getting other information that should have been understood prior to the project going forward. What what is it going to truly cost us and sustainability for uh the Cultural Arts Center? We don't know that. [2:19:32, 2:19:35]: What is truly gonna be the cost of sustainability for the police department? [2:19:36, 2:19:37]: We don't know that. [2:19:38, 2:19:50]: But then we come on here and we we look at change orders, we look at this. Now is not the time to get information. We need that information prior to these projects. So hopefully moving forward, we'll get all the information we need. [2:19:51, 2:19:53]: And the in in in the in the uh [2:19:53, 2:20:02]: If even if there's potentially uh other costs that are unforeseen, like uh unsuitable soils, uh situations and and whatever. [2:20:02, 2:20:06]: That those things that be presented to us, that those potentials [2:20:06, 2:20:07]: can happen. [2:20:07, 2:20:11]: uh prior to moving projects forward. [2:20:12, 2:20:15]: And so right now we're at a point now where we need to know. [2:20:16, 2:20:30]: information pertaining to millions that are being spent on projects so we can feel comfortable about this decisions. Well at least me, I can feel comfortable about the decision I'm making when it comes to uh the taxpayers' money. [2:20:30, 2:20:35]: Uh and and so this is why I wanna have us to get all the information. [2:20:36, 2:20:37]: That we need. [2:20:38, 2:20:44]: Rather than sit on this phone and we'll spend all night asking questions, these are the type of questions should we should have had answers to. [2:20:45, 2:20:46]: Before now. [2:20:46, 2:20:48]: To have a clear understanding of what [2:20:48, 2:20:51]: I don't think there's one council member on here that ever built the amphitheater. [2:20:52, 2:20:53]: Not one. [2:20:53, 2:21:07]: So we rely on the professionals, we rely on our city manager, we rely on those people we've hired. All of you all, we rely on you all to give us the information and come uh and culminate the information together, give it to the city manager, he disseminated to us. Now we got understanding. [2:21:08, 2:21:12]: We're asking questions right now in an amphitheater that's supposed to be completed in June. [2:21:12, 2:21:15]: And we still have question, why this? Why is that? [2:21:15, 2:21:19]: Why is this? And these are knowledgeable things that was already for [2:21:19, 2:21:22]: i in everybody mind could be potentially could happen. [2:21:22, 2:21:26]: And those are the things that I'm talking about, even moving forward with other projects. [2:21:27, 2:21:31]: The direction of the city, the the council needs to have information to make sound decisions. [2:21:32, 2:21:38]: on future projects instead of us just throwing millions and millions out there and then say, hey, we're in it now. Let's keep going. [2:21:38, 2:21:43]: That's what I'm saying. Let's let's go ahead and get all the information needed and then we move forward. [2:21:43, 2:21:46]: Not get millions together and then say, Hey, let's figure it out later. [2:21:48, 2:21:53]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander stand by for a second stand by for a second. Councilman Thomas, do you have any comments, sir? [2:21:59, 2:22:08]: You're you're still doing let me get off of mute. Uh no, I I I do not. Um, you know, I I I could say a couple of things about the process and [2:22:09, 2:22:12]: how we all got started, but you know. [2:22:12, 2:22:15]: I I I I just hold my [2:22:16, 2:22:19]: understanding of how we sort of got where we are. [2:22:20, 2:22:22]: Uh, even with the amphitheater, you know. [2:22:24, 2:22:27]: I'm okay. I I I just hold on to that. [2:22:27, 2:22:47]: I appreciate it. And I appreciate everybody's work on this, all the contractors and and the project managers and of course H.J. Russell and company and Kurt. And this is this is definitely a game changer for us here in Stockbridge. It's the catalyst for our redevelopment of a downtown area. Obviously, this is the first amphitheater in Henry County, the largest one in the South Metro area. [2:22:47, 2:23:01]: So this is just great, it's a great thing. And um and I really appreciate everybody's effort and appreciate the council's effort to continue to move things forward in this aspect. And uh we'll all be proud of this project. And it's all done. We're proud of it right now as well. [2:23:02, 2:23:04]: Remember Tim Alexander, sir. What's on your mind? [2:23:04, 2:23:07]: Uh thank you, Mayor. And you you kind of hit it right there on the head. [2:23:08, 2:23:21]: This project is gonna make all of us proud and literally this will be the best park probably on the south side of Atlanta, period. And because it'll be so beautiful and it it is a best in class project. [2:23:22, 2:23:24]: Uh as Councilwoman Gantt indicated, this [2:23:24, 2:23:27]: This right here is something that really will [2:23:27, 2:23:28]: Uh make us all proud. [2:23:29, 2:23:33]: But let's clarify one thing, you know, as a realtor as a realtor. [2:23:33, 2:23:37]: I do understand, you know, there are certain things and you have to maybe have to go [2:23:38, 2:23:41]: through the process and understand and let me break it down to you like this. [2:23:42, 2:23:45]: When you buy your house, it does not have any furniture in it. [2:23:46, 2:23:46]: Okay. [2:23:47, 2:23:48]: It has light fixtures in it. [2:23:49, 2:23:52]: That's the term that we use in real estate. It's called fixtures. [2:23:52, 2:23:55]: If it's permanent, you cannot take it out of the house. [2:23:56, 2:24:08]: Generally, that's considered to be a fixture. Construction, when you're doing a project, that's the estimate you're getting. You're getting estimate on just like when you're buying a house, you're moving into it empty. [2:24:09, 2:24:27]: If you decide to do any changes to it, or you decide to change the ceiling fan, or you decide to do a better speaker system, or you decide to do a skylight and all of that, all of that, you know, those are considered that again, that would be a fixture. But in terms of um [2:24:28, 2:24:46]: your your furniture, your dining room table, your bedroom, or anything that you put in the house, just imagine the day that you walked into your new house and you were getting ready to close. That's what we're gonna be able to do on the amphitheater and the cost that will be captured will be just like walking into a brand new new construction home. [2:24:47, 2:24:51]: And I and I certainly understand, I appreciate Kekin Wood. [2:24:51, 2:25:06]: I mean, this is what we brought them on board for was to scrub the numbers and to go down line by line. And if our professional tells us that, you know, really he just told us that really they were working on very slim margins and a slim profit. [2:25:07, 2:25:09]: In order to move this project forward, so [2:25:09, 2:25:12]: Without further ado, I make a motion to accept the staff's [2:25:13, 2:25:15]: Recommendation to move forward. [2:25:15, 2:25:20]: uh with this project as described after due diligence completed by the staff. [2:25:21, 2:25:22]: I think it [2:25:22, 2:25:24]: Okay, Council Woman Gantt second that. [2:25:25, 2:25:31]: It's my assumption that there's no more further comment on this. I do want to make a a statement really quick. [2:25:31, 2:25:34]: Go right in. Yes. I just just for the public. [2:25:34, 2:25:38]: The amphitheater was a project that was approved prior to me being elected. [2:25:39, 2:25:43]: Actually it was one of the very first things that I asked for when I came on board. [2:25:43, 2:25:45]: I wanted to look at the contract. [2:25:46, 2:25:47]: What I learned from that was [2:25:48, 2:25:58]: The fifteen point six million dollars only covered the structure of the building. Right. I began asking questions about that then. I believe Councilman Blount was the one who told me I need to read. [2:25:59, 2:26:01]: When I explained to him, I read. [2:26:01, 2:26:04]: I read, that's how I knew it only covered the structure of the building. [2:26:05, 2:26:08]: So ever since then I've been asking questions. [2:26:09, 2:26:13]: I don't over rely on staff to provide me with information. [2:26:13, 2:26:16]: I want to do my own research and due diligence. [2:26:16, 2:26:19]: It was me. [2:26:20, 2:26:23]: um carl um well second [2:26:24, 2:26:27]: Um if we can get everybody to mute. [2:26:27, 2:26:33]: their microphones so that I'm clear when I'm speaking. I see Councilman Blount has his mic off. [2:26:34, 2:26:37]: Hearing some shuffling in the background, I just want the public. [2:26:37, 2:26:39]: To be aware of where we are. [2:26:40, 2:26:43]: In being transparent about the cost of this amphitheater. [2:26:44, 2:26:47]: I'm asking these questions because I I want to know. [2:26:48, 2:26:50]: How much more is it going to take to complete it? [2:26:51, 2:26:55]: Yes, this is um the project that we can learn from. [2:26:55, 2:26:57]: The amphitheater, we've been [2:26:58, 2:27:07]: Um, I've been seeing change orders after change orders for this project, and I just want to see or know where the end is in sight. [2:27:07, 2:27:08]: That's all. [2:27:10, 2:27:13]: Okay, thank you. Uh Councilwoman Gantt uh go ahead, please. [2:27:14, 2:27:25]: Thank you, Mayor. I actually earlier when I made a statement in regards to crisis, it was to basically state that there are certain things that we are not aware of. [2:27:25, 2:27:26]: Um [2:27:26, 2:27:35]: After thinking about it, I spoke with the city manager and our city attorney when we first talked about um having to do a new change order. [2:27:36, 2:27:50]: We've already talked about incidental things that pop up during construction, right? So these things have happened before where you don't know if something has unsuitable soils or a junkyard or some trash buried. You just won't know. [2:27:50, 2:27:55]: Um but this particular item, now that it's been brought up. [2:27:56, 2:28:05]: We actually changed this after the bids, after we had a a whole plan. We had one plan to have one lake, one pond. [2:28:06, 2:28:11]: Right. And once we started began the project, they realized that they needed two additional. [2:28:12, 2:28:25]: And then they said, well, let's make it really nice and make it like a park, a pathway and a walking. So all this was done not before our plan has always been the same plan. We just enhanced it after the bid. [2:28:25, 2:28:38]: So just so you know, there's no um mishaps or mistake being made in regards to the plans of the project. This happened after the project had been completed. [2:28:38, 2:28:41]: The plans that we made. Just so you know. [2:28:41, 2:28:42]: Okay. [2:28:42, 2:28:45]: Just one block. Go ahead, please. [2:28:45, 2:28:47]: I I just want to say this, you know. [2:28:47, 2:28:53]: All the work everybody's doing on this project is is totally 100% appreciated. [2:28:53, 2:28:58]: Uh I think that the amphitheater looks top of the line. It's a beautiful edifice and uh [2:28:58, 2:29:01]: Uh it's beautiful, and I thank everybody for doing this. [2:29:02, 2:29:07]: I would only say that when you call my name out and it's in a negative tone, I'm not gonna get into that foolishness. [2:29:07, 2:29:10]: So I'll let Councilwoman Barber have that to herself. [2:29:11, 2:29:15]: But I would say on a professional level, thank you all for the work that you all are doing. [2:29:15, 2:29:23]: And uh, you know, we definitely, definitely appreciated the attention and the to detail that you all are putting in this project. And uh we will enjoy it. [2:29:24, 2:29:29]: All right, so we have uh we have a motion on floors is been seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:29:30, 2:29:33]: One, two, three, four. So now it's decision. Fantastic. [2:29:34, 2:29:54]: Fantastic, Carl. Way to go. All right. Okay, now Council consideration to approve the Stockbridge Public Facilities Authority Taxable Revenue Bond Public Amphitheater Project to be issued in the amount of$7 million and the use of SPLOS 5 and revenues to pay all the or portion of the board debt. [2:29:54, 2:29:57]: debt service. Ms. Knight and Ms. Wall, please. [2:29:59, 2:30:03]: Yes, thank you, Mayor. As we've been talking about these items throughout the course of the evening. [2:30:04, 2:30:05]: Uh it all uh [2:30:05, 2:30:09]: culminates in uh the bond issuance proposal. [2:30:09, 2:30:17]: uh for the mayor and council to consider. And uh I'll let uh Mr. Wall and of course Mr. Shelby is on as Selby, excuse me, is on as well. [2:30:18, 2:30:20]: uh to walk through um the [2:30:21, 2:30:21]: Um [2:30:22, 2:30:23]: Framework. [2:30:23, 2:30:28]: of the bond issuance which you are being asked to consider and potentially approve. [2:30:29, 2:30:34]: In conjunction with the earlier item related to the p the police department startup costs. [2:30:34, 2:30:37]: Uh they'll fold that into uh their discussion as well. [2:30:39, 2:30:44]: Thank you. Um Mr. Knighton, could I share my screen? Is that okay? I'm gonna share the memo that uh you had sent. [2:30:47, 2:30:48]: Is that okay? [2:30:48, 2:30:50]: Yes. Yes, sir. Go right ahead. That'd be fine. [2:30:54, 2:30:56]: If uh I T oh there we go. [2:31:02, 2:31:02]: Can you see that? [2:31:03, 2:31:04]: Yes. [2:31:05, 2:31:08]: So tonight, Mayor and Council, we have before you um [2:31:09, 2:31:10]: Three bond issues um [2:31:11, 2:31:12]: The amphitheater. [2:31:12, 2:31:13]: Um [2:31:14, 2:31:16]: The cultural arts center and the trails. [2:31:16, 2:31:20]: And we have uh added to the cultural arts art center. [2:31:20, 2:31:21]: Um [2:31:21, 2:31:22]: Um [2:31:27, 2:31:28]: Plus [2:31:29, 2:31:30]: Three million. [2:31:30, 2:31:32]: For police equipment. [2:31:35, 2:31:37]: Wanted to go down the page if I could. Um [2:31:38, 2:31:40]: The amphitheater. [2:31:40, 2:31:46]: Just to bring everybody's memory back, we had five million allocated from the general fund fund balance. [2:31:47, 2:31:48]: We had six million three. [2:31:49, 2:31:49]: From um [2:31:50, 2:31:54]: The uh Splosh four regions bank account, if we all remember that. [2:31:55, 2:31:56]: And so we had um [2:31:57, 2:31:58]: Eleven million three for that. [2:32:00, 2:32:02]: Keg and Wood had sent us um [2:32:03, 2:32:04]: A line item. [2:32:04, 2:32:05]: For the [2:32:05, 2:32:09]: Construction of the amphitheatre saying that we would need a total of nineteen million. [2:32:10, 2:32:12]: eight hundred and seventy five thousand three hundred to finish that. [2:32:13, 2:32:14]: Um [2:32:14, 2:32:15]: I would like to [2:32:15, 2:32:17]: Uh go to that real quick. [2:32:17, 2:32:18]: We can see it. [2:32:20, 2:32:22]: This was the fifteen million eight. [2:32:23, 2:32:26]: That uh Councilman Barber, Councilwoman Barber had talked about. [2:32:27, 2:32:28]: Here were the change orders. [2:32:30, 2:32:30]: Um [2:32:30, 2:32:32]: The one that you approved tonight. [2:32:33, 2:32:36]: And so it's nineteen million eight seventy five total. [2:32:36, 2:32:39]: He had put a two hundred thousand dollar contingency in there. [2:32:41, 2:32:44]: So we have to fund nineteen miljon eight seven five. [2:32:46, 2:32:47]: I'll go back to page one. [2:32:48, 2:32:50]: We had the five million. [2:32:50, 2:32:52]: Uh coming from um [2:32:53, 2:32:54]: The general fund. [2:32:54, 2:32:58]: The six million three from the Splos Four Regions bank account. [2:32:58, 2:33:03]: And this seven million dollar bond issue will produce six million eight hundred and twenty five thousand for construction fund. [2:33:04, 2:33:06]: So I have eighteen million one twenty five. [2:33:07, 2:33:11]: Take that from Kekinwood's estimate of what we need to finish the amphitheater. [2:33:12, 2:33:14]: We're a million seven fifty short. [2:33:15, 2:33:17]: We have that three million dollars. [2:33:17, 2:33:20]: In the splost four money that's in the Sun Trust bank account. [2:33:21, 2:33:24]: We're gonna use some of that for roads. [2:33:24, 2:33:25]: So [2:33:25, 2:33:27]: If we use that three million [2:33:28, 2:33:33]: finish funding this million seven fifty, it'll leave a million two forty nine for roads. [2:33:33, 2:33:41]: To the extent you need more money for roads, you have four million five hundred and ninety thousand in the SPLOS five project list. [2:33:42, 2:33:43]: I'll take you to that real quick. [2:33:50, 2:33:53]: This was intergovernmental contract we had with Henry County. [2:33:53, 2:34:03]: Y'all remember we had 20,525,000 available from Splosh 4 that we would collect in a four-year time period starting April one of this year. [2:34:04, 2:34:12]: We had nine million eight thirty-six for civic buildings, civic projects and buildings. We're gonna take all of that for the amphitheater and the cultural arts center. [2:34:13, 2:34:16]: And so while the cultural arts center is fourteen million. [2:34:16, 2:34:25]: We're gonna take two million eight thirty-six of this number and fund it with spLOS so that the bond issue that's gonna be paid for from the general funds as small as possible. [2:34:25, 2:34:28]: Then you have road projects here that could help you. [2:34:29, 2:34:30]: Uh if you need it. [2:34:30, 2:34:33]: And then we have water to sewer projects, we have park improvements. [2:34:35, 2:34:36]: Go back. [2:34:40, 2:34:41]: The annual payments. [2:34:41, 2:34:42]: Um [2:34:42, 2:34:45]: For bond debt service is gonna be made from Sploss. [2:34:45, 2:34:46]: Five. [2:34:53, 2:35:01]: The general fund's only gonna the general fund's only gonna be responsible for operations and maintenance costs if a private management company doesn't provide that. [2:35:02, 2:35:17]: So as we talk about what the general fund's gotta pay tonight, I'm I'm assuming zero for the amphitheater, assuming that it'll that it will be funded by itself from a private management company. If that's not the case, then we'll have to add money from the general fund to carry the operation and maintenance cost. [2:35:18, 2:35:27]: The amphitheater though, the capital costs are going to be fully funded by all these other revenue sources, of which we've limited the amount from the general fund to the five million dollars that y'all know about. [2:35:31, 2:35:33]: So let's look at splash five. [2:35:33, 2:35:35]: Here were the various projects [2:35:35, 2:35:36]: Categories that we had. [2:35:38, 2:35:42]: We took five hundred thousand from roads. [2:35:43, 2:35:44]: For the trails. [2:35:44, 2:35:46]: And five hundred thousand from parks. [2:35:47, 2:35:53]: So we're barring a million dollars to start the trail work now that'll come from those two categories. [2:35:56, 2:35:57]: The Cultural Art Center. [2:35:57, 2:35:59]: Was fourteen milyen dollars. [2:36:02, 2:36:09]: S staff directed TSW to bring you back a building that fit that budget. [2:36:09, 2:36:10]: And nothing more. [2:36:12, 2:36:19]: Staff assumed seven million dollars for the amphitheater will come from splash five. That'll leave the two million eight thirty six. [2:36:20, 2:36:23]: From splash five to go toward the cultural arts center. [2:36:24, 2:36:27]: So we've got to do a bond issue for eleven million one sixty three. [2:36:28, 2:36:30]: It'll be paid for from the general fund. [2:36:30, 2:36:32]: So the bond issue [2:36:32, 2:36:37]: for the amphitheater and the trails is just a four year bond payable from the four year splost. [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: This eleven million one sixty three. [2:36:40, 2:36:42]: Would be a fifteen year bond issue. [2:36:43, 2:36:50]: And so a 15 year bond issue, I had it at 2.3%. We've been in negotiations with Sun Trust. [2:36:50, 2:37:03]: They came in at 2.25. It's five basis points lower than what you all would have gotten if you had gotten a double-A credit rating and sold bonds in the credit markets. So I'm going to recommend to you tonight that we do a private placement with the Truest Bank. [2:37:04, 2:37:05]: The rate there is two point two five. [2:37:06, 2:37:13]: And annual payments instead of being nine hundred and eighty thousand and nine hundred and seventy-two thousand because of that lower interest rate. [2:37:14, 2:37:20]: And then I figured that the O and M cost for the Cultural Arts Center would be about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [2:37:20, 2:37:28]: I just picked that number. I don't know whether it'd be a hundred thousand or three hundred thousand, but the general fund would have to pay the OM cost on the cultural arts center. [2:37:28, 2:37:38]: So the general fund's gotta be at a million one hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars. Um, and it's of course it's eight thousand dollars less, so it'd be a million one hundred and seventy. [2:37:38, 2:37:44]: And then we talked earlier tonight about the three million for the public safety, for the police equipment. [2:37:44, 2:37:53]: We're gonna amortize it over seven years and just add it to this$11 million bond issue, but instead of a 15-year maturity, it'll be a seven-year maturity. [2:37:53, 2:37:58]: And that'll add five hundred and thirty-five thousand dollars to that number to come from the general fund. [2:37:58, 2:38:03]: Splosh five didn't include um public safety, so we can't use Splosh five for that. [2:38:05, 2:38:06]: Exhibit D. [2:38:08, 2:38:08]: Um [2:38:09, 2:38:26]: contains a revenue and expense report from the general fund where you had had uh extra amount for five hundred and three thousand. I heard Councilman Alexander tonight say that Mr. Wiggins initial uh uh indications for your fiscal year twenty twenty, the year ended December thirty-first, twenty twenty. [2:38:27, 2:38:28]: We provide a million three. [2:38:29, 2:38:30]: So that's [2:38:31, 2:38:32]: You all [2:38:32, 2:38:33]: don't have a property tax. [2:38:34, 2:38:39]: And you're trying to avoid leaving a property tax, but it would appear that that we might have to have one in the future. [2:38:40, 2:38:40]: Um [2:38:41, 2:38:45]: I noticed that each one mill raises nine hundred and fifty-six thousand dollars. [2:38:46, 2:38:52]: I heard somebody tonight say that three point six mils is what we have in the SDS with Henry County. [2:38:53, 2:38:59]: for the for for police. So three point six mils on that is three point four million dollars. [2:38:59, 2:39:03]: That you would have available if you started your own police force. [2:39:04, 2:39:04]: Um [2:39:05, 2:39:08]: And not have a any kind of property tax increase on the citizens. [2:39:10, 2:39:13]: And I haven't read the UGA report. I don't know if that's enough to cover it or not. [2:39:14, 2:39:15]: And then [2:39:16, 2:39:17]: The conclusion. [2:39:17, 2:39:19]: Tonight before Mayor and Council. [2:39:19, 2:39:21]: Would be a motion second. [2:39:21, 2:39:25]: To issue twenty twenty one A bonds for full year maturity. [2:39:25, 2:39:27]: One point three two percent. [2:39:28, 2:39:29]: For nine million nine ten. [2:39:30, 2:39:31]: That's the amphitheater. [2:39:32, 2:39:35]: And it is the um one million dollars in trails. [2:39:35, 2:39:38]: two million eight thirty six for the cultural arts center. [2:39:39, 2:39:41]: And then it would be um [2:39:41, 2:39:44]: I'm sorry, just the cultural arts center and the amphitheater. [2:39:44, 2:39:46]: Just a cultural arts center right here. [2:39:46, 2:39:47]: And the amphitheater. [2:39:48, 2:39:52]: Twenty twenty one B bond issue is a four year maturity at one point oh four. [2:39:53, 2:39:55]: The difference in this is these are taxable. [2:39:56, 2:40:01]: So the IRS doesn't give you a lot of squirrely regulations and how you conduct business there. [2:40:02, 2:40:04]: But the uh trails are tax exempt. [2:40:05, 2:40:08]: So the rate's a little bit lower for the tax exempt bonds. [2:40:08, 2:40:12]: And then twenty twenty one C is a fifteen year maturity. [2:40:12, 2:40:15]: At two point three four percent, the fund of cultural arts center. [2:40:15, 2:40:17]: We're gonna add to it the police. [2:40:19, 2:40:20]: With a seven year maturity. [2:40:24, 2:40:24]: And um [2:40:25, 2:40:27]: Again it's two point two five percent. [2:40:30, 2:40:31]: Any questions? [2:40:32, 2:40:34]: Yeah, Councilman Blount. [2:40:34, 2:40:38]: And has a question. I think this is a great presentation by the way, Mr. Wall, but [2:40:38, 2:40:39]: Councilman Bon, go ahead, please. [2:40:39, 2:40:47]: Thank you for your presentation, Ms. Wild. First of all, that 3.6 million with the county right now, it wouldn't be a total rollback because [2:40:47, 2:41:01]: Uh there still would be uh services be some services being provided if that would be the case uh for for as any tax taxes that would if if it would fall upon the citizens, it wouldn't be a full 3.6. [2:41:01, 2:41:05]: uh roll it wouldn't be a full three point six rollback on that. [2:41:05, 2:41:07]: Uh when you look at [2:41:07, 2:41:08]: The bonding that we're doing. [2:41:09, 2:41:11]: The decision that are being made tonight. [2:41:12, 2:41:14]: The monies that would hit the general funds. [2:41:15, 2:41:18]: Uh obviously our budget is going to be expanded. [2:41:19, 2:41:29]: And when you talk about um the monies that we're that we're not using tonight toward the amphitheater, when you talk about the binding of millions to the uh cultural art center. [2:41:29, 2:41:34]: And now toward the the three million toward the police department, I think we're talking about twenty five million. [2:41:34, 2:41:36]: How does the city [2:41:36, 2:41:44]: sus uh sustain itself through the interest rates that need to be paid through the bond payment, uh uh through the b through the uh [2:41:45, 2:41:46]: through the bond payments. [2:41:46, 2:41:53]: with the budget that we have right now, with the lost revenue that we're getting, how do we sustain ourselves through this right here? [2:41:56, 2:41:58]: Um each year when you do your budget. [2:41:59, 2:42:00]: You [2:42:00, 2:42:02]: You don't have a property tax. [2:42:02, 2:42:03]: But [2:42:03, 2:42:06]: For you to bite all this off, you're likely to have a property tax. [2:42:07, 2:42:08]: So so right now. [2:42:09, 2:42:26]: There's no clear path on how the city could sustain itself without a property tax through what we're headed down to right now with twenty trying to bond twenty five million dollars tonight, getting the information we're getting from you. So what in the world are we doing tonight? [2:42:27, 2:42:28]: That's my question. [2:42:29, 2:42:31]: As our financial advisor [2:42:32, 2:42:34]: You don't even see a clear path for us. [2:42:35, 2:42:42]: financially without a property tax, yet we're getting ready to agree to twenty five million dollars in bonds. [2:42:42, 2:42:53]: that now we sustainability now has to be put in place afterwards instead of having a a forethought of sustainability before we make the decision. This is what I'm talking about. [2:42:54, 2:43:05]: It makes no sense. I'm a citizen before I'm a before I'm an elected official. I became an elected official because I'm a citizen. And when I see that these types of decisions are getting ready to be made. [2:43:05, 2:43:21]: It is gonna harm the city, put us in an emergency situation that we now gotta tell the people, hey, we gotta hurry up and tax you because we don't know how to sus uh sustain ourselves, because we got millions that we're putting in the bank for project that we're not even ready to do on right now, but it's gonna be a startup for them. [2:43:21, 2:43:23]: What kind of stuff is that? [2:43:24, 2:43:25]: I'm not for that. [2:43:25, 2:43:31]: I'm not for putting the city in that that type of predicament from you as a professional and our in our uh uh [2:43:31, 2:43:37]: to be our uh uh financial advisor and you cannot even give us a clear path on how we would fund that. [2:43:43, 2:43:43]: At um [2:43:44, 2:43:48]: Airport Tim Alexander, you you're lit up there. Are you ready to say something there, sir? [2:43:48, 2:43:50]: You take this off the screen, please. [2:43:51, 2:43:52]: Yes, sir. [2:44:03, 2:44:05]: You know, the citizens elected us to lead. [2:44:05, 2:44:06]: That's what we're doing. [2:44:07, 2:44:11]: We're moving forward with what we need to do in order to set the path straight. [2:44:11, 2:44:12]: For the city of Startbridge. [2:44:13, 2:44:15]: Each and every year we generate [2:44:15, 2:44:18]: About a million dollar overage every single year. [2:44:19, 2:44:21]: It's in it it it is. [2:44:21, 2:44:27]: In in in our best interest to move forward with these projects with the lowest possible interest rate now. [2:44:28, 2:44:29]: You know, honestly. [2:44:29, 2:44:31]: I I I I don't I [2:44:31, 2:44:33]: Mr. Wall made that a session. [2:44:33, 2:44:43]: I'm s I'm still not there yet. I don't think Mr. Wall can tell us that we're gonna need to have a property tax. I see the city of Hampton has a police department. They don't. [2:44:43, 2:44:47]: I see the city of Locust Grove have a police department. They don't. [2:44:47, 2:44:54]: In the end, there may be a certain there may be one. But you know what? I'm not ready to stay there yet. I'm not ready to go there. [2:44:55, 2:45:06]: Because in the end, when I can see a million dollars being generated every single year and seven to eight thousand people are moving to my county, that number keeps moving up each year. [2:45:06, 2:45:11]: Since I when I started on this council, our budget was eight point six million. [2:45:12, 2:45:19]: What in in and today is born in almost it's tw it's twelve, right? So close to twelve. So or actually over twelve. But we [2:45:20, 2:45:38]: Those numbers grow. The path is right there already now, right? It continues to move north, starting at 8.6, went up a million, went up another million, went up another million. And as we go along, we do have substantial projects. [2:45:39, 2:45:45]: in budget, in place, to understand that commercial growth is growing right and left. [2:45:46, 2:45:49]: And they can't build the houses fast enough. [2:45:49, 2:45:52]: for people to move to Henry County. [2:45:52, 2:45:57]: We understand that what is going on even in the midst of the pandemic. [2:45:57, 2:46:01]: We had record tax collection, not just tax collection. [2:46:02, 2:46:03]: Record. [2:46:04, 2:46:04]: Loss [2:46:05, 2:46:09]: collections and they continue to do that and they continue to search. [2:46:10, 2:46:14]: The one you know what you know what those record loss numbers tell us? [2:46:15, 2:46:34]: They tell us that the splot is going to be over. It's going to be over collected. That's what's going to happen. So when the loss tax is up and it's showing us that the spLOS numbers are up, so those splots categories that we have set aside for roads and civics projects, those numbers are going to be up also. [2:46:35, 2:46:41]: Because they collect a tax on sale. Those are sales tax base as the loss of sales tax base. [2:46:41, 2:46:45]: So in the end, what we're gonna continue to do is [2:46:45, 2:46:46]: Mark the payer. [2:46:46, 2:46:50]: You know, with all due respect to my colleague, Mr. Blount. [2:46:50, 2:46:59]: He's been serving with us now for the last five and a half years. He's voted against every last one of the projects that we move all one almost all of them. [2:47:00, 2:47:02]: I I I you know if if [2:47:03, 2:47:06]: We continue to go down this path. [2:47:07, 2:47:14]: Of punting every time. Let's wait, let's wait, let's wait, let's wait. How long are we going to keep waiting? [2:47:15, 2:47:28]: The reason that we have all these excess funds is the council bef the councils before us did not roll out a lot of projects, okay? Because there was a lot of confusion going on in the city, a lot of different [2:47:29, 2:47:37]: Curves and switches, but guess what? This council is focused on walking and chewing gum at the same time. [2:47:38, 2:47:41]: What does that mean? We can do more than one project. [2:47:42, 2:47:43]: Out of time. [2:47:43, 2:47:45]: That's what we're attempting to do tonight. [2:47:46, 2:47:51]: And understanding, I believe a tea splass is going on the b on the ballot. [2:47:52, 2:47:52]: In November. [2:47:53, 2:47:56]: So if the T splass goes on the ballot in November. [2:47:56, 2:47:58]: And the T-SPLOST actually passes. [2:47:58, 2:48:01]: That's an additional twenty million dollars that [2:48:01, 2:48:03]: We can expand. We can't count it yet. [2:48:03, 2:48:06]: But we already know that that's going on the b on on on the books. [2:48:07, 2:48:09]: And the revenue continues to increase. [2:48:10, 2:48:13]: For us to move forward with these particular projects. [2:48:13, 2:48:14]: Let us not [2:48:14, 2:48:16]: Live in fear. [2:48:17, 2:48:21]: How long are we gonna keep scaring the citizens and saying instead of leading? [2:48:22, 2:48:24]: We can lead with courage. [2:48:25, 2:48:28]: God told me to step out on faith and lead the city. [2:48:28, 2:48:33]: Not wallow in pity and worry about what elder the skies falling. [2:48:34, 2:48:36]: I'm not gonna worry about the sky falling. [2:48:37, 2:48:39]: We're gonna lead the city forward with vision. [2:48:39, 2:48:45]: And be one of the greatest counsels to ever serve in the city of Stockbridge. That's our charge. [2:48:47, 2:48:48]: Catherine Blount, please go ahead. [2:48:50, 2:48:50]: Yeah. [2:48:51, 2:48:52]: The city of Ham you know. [2:48:52, 2:49:00]: Well you know, when when when Councilman Arizona and Councilwoman Barber wanted to throw John Blount name in there, that's fine. I'm just not gonna get caught up in that mess. I'm gonna [2:49:00, 2:49:03]: I've grown over the last four years. I don't get caught in that mess. [2:49:04, 2:49:19]: But one of the things about the city of Hampton, they sell utilities. We don't. One of the things about Locust Grove, they have a big, big area called Tanger Outlet. So their lost incomes is definitely coming in. Their loss uh local options sale tax money is definitely coming in. [2:49:20, 2:49:24]: We can't compare ourselves to other cities when it comes to decision making. [2:49:24, 2:49:27]: A decision should be made when facts are present. [2:49:28, 2:49:33]: This is why we're asking so many questions and stayed on the phone over an hour, almost an hour and a half or more. [2:49:33, 2:49:36]: talking about the amphitheater because we didn't have enough facts. [2:49:37, 2:49:41]: And that's what we're doing right now. We're making decisions without facts. [2:49:41, 2:49:48]: All I want is facts. And if that makes me an out if that makes me an a a outside person, then so be it. [2:49:49, 2:50:03]: But I cannot vote without facts. And when we have a paper, a person that we paid on this line, our financial advisor, financial advisor, not another council member. He's our financial advisor. [2:50:04, 2:50:09]: And we say, well, I'm not gonna go with what he says. We are not fine, that's not our expertise. [2:50:11, 2:50:12]: If that's not a path. [2:50:12, 2:50:17]: To how we fund projects through our financial advisor, if that's not a path. [2:50:18, 2:50:26]: Through how we have sustainability with our projects, then why would we listen to one another that's elected rather than the professionals that we're hiring? [2:50:28, 2:50:36]: That's what we elected to do. Hire the right people in place to tell us the best path and things to do that we're not expert in. [2:50:38, 2:50:48]: And s but we're not even gonna listen to them because we think that we're leading. No, no, we're finding out putting ourselves in a position where we're playing we're playing Russian roulette with the taxpayers' money. [2:50:48, 2:50:52]: In the city of Stockbridge because we have no facts. [2:50:54, 2:50:56]: Councilman Thomas, do you have any comments at all, sir? [2:51:02, 2:51:03]: Let me get off mute. [2:51:04, 2:51:05]: Um, you know [2:51:07, 2:51:08]: One thing I I don't do. [2:51:09, 2:51:10]: Um [2:51:11, 2:51:16]: I don't go around and round in public like this. I I don't do that. I can have opinions. [2:51:16, 2:51:18]: But I I don't do that. Um [2:51:20, 2:51:24]: You know, I'm I'm ready to to to vote. You know, folks already know. [2:51:24, 2:51:28]: um you know where they want to go with this. [2:51:28, 2:51:31]: Um I I I just don't I just [2:51:32, 2:51:35]: I I believe in a healthy discussion. [2:51:35, 2:51:40]: But I don't believe in throwing folks under the bus. I don't believe in calling folks' names. Um [2:51:41, 2:51:49]: We knew that these issues were coming. Uh, we could have had discussions at any time. I don't know why we always want to wait. [2:51:49, 2:51:59]: until we had come to the council meeting to do this. Uh we all knew that these issues on the agenda. We all all had our agenda booked. We knew it was going to happen. So [2:52:00, 2:52:05]: I'm saying is, you know, we vote or we don't vote, but I'm not gonna sit here and and and [2:52:05, 2:52:09]: you know, just go around and around like this. Uh it just [2:52:09, 2:52:11]: It it just not healthy in my book and so [2:52:12, 2:52:13]: Um [2:52:13, 2:52:15]: You know, I'm I'm ready for the vote. [2:52:16, 2:52:20]: Um, I agree one thing I do agree with, and I've said this before too. [2:52:20, 2:52:22]: When it comes to staff [2:52:23, 2:52:27]: When it comes to people that we have to give us advice. [2:52:27, 2:52:29]: А дедуай. [2:52:30, 2:52:31]: In providing [2:52:32, 2:52:35]: information and doing the research. [2:52:35, 2:52:36]: And bring us numbers. [2:52:37, 2:52:40]: Uh, we have to make decisions, and we make decisions. [2:52:41, 2:52:45]: And I understand about you know uh a tax or no tax. [2:52:45, 2:52:46]: Um [2:52:47, 2:52:50]: There was a tax in Star Grid before. [2:52:50, 2:52:52]: Uh, it's not the end of the world. [2:52:53, 2:52:55]: Um, but again, um [2:52:56, 2:52:58]: I'm ready to go forward. Um [2:53:00, 2:53:03]: You know, I'm just I'm just you know I'm just disappointed. [2:53:04, 2:53:10]: Uh somewhat in this. I and I I say this all the time, and I don't like to say it in public like this, but [2:53:10, 2:53:12]: I I just don't believe in this kind of [2:53:13, 2:53:13]: Um [2:53:14, 2:53:31]: discussion with counsel. Uh we all knew this was coming. So if you want to have these discussion, um, you know, call each other, you know, say what you want to say on the phone, uh, on your own time and and and and bring these kind of things out. But to come here. [2:53:31, 2:53:34]: And see who can get the last word. [2:53:34, 2:53:36]: Uh who can now get [2:53:37, 2:53:40]: It it just rubs me the wrong way. Um [2:53:40, 2:53:43]: So mayor, if you would, you're the presiding officer. [2:53:43, 2:53:44]: Um [2:53:44, 2:53:51]: And if Mr. Walls and Mr. Knight wanna just have a closing statement on this, let let just go ahead and um [2:53:52, 2:53:59]: You know, someone want a table, you know, you you do that. But but for us to keep going around and around and around and around. [2:54:00, 2:54:20]: I I I don't believe in that. So Mr. Fair, I I think just just go ahead and let's let's make some decision. Stand by stand by stand by one second, please. Hold on. I want to make sure that uh wanna make sure I get the ladies in here. Wanna make sure to be equal here. If they if you have any you already heard what uh councilman Thomas mentioned, everybody else's comments. So uh uh Ms. Scant, do you have a comment? [2:54:19, 2:54:22]: comment do you want to make for the betterment of uh good of the discussion? [2:54:23, 2:54:35]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I have heard the comments. My own again, my statement stands. Um I look but I think we all look forward to [2:54:36, 2:54:38]: Getting all these projects up and running. [2:54:38, 2:54:39]: We do. [2:54:39, 2:54:40]: Um [2:54:40, 2:54:44]: I think that, you know, interest rates are low with bonds. [2:54:45, 2:54:46]: Right. [2:54:46, 2:55:03]: I I don't think they in government bonds, the municipal construction bonds, they don't really go high. Right. There was a spike last March for like two point seven percent, but they don't go high. They're between one point zero and two point seven or or whatever the case may be. [2:55:03, 2:55:05]: I my biggest concern right now. [2:55:06, 2:55:07]: Is [2:55:08, 2:55:10]: Let's say for instance the art center. [2:55:11, 2:55:20]: I'm excited about the art center, just as excited about what we did with the amphitheater and and for that matter, our senior and youth center, what I consider a community center for everyone. [2:55:22, 2:55:30]: My only concern is where are the numbers? We just this$14 million for the art center, particularly. [2:55:30, 2:55:44]: Um, kind of just like the police department in 2014, 2015, the police department, there was a study done by the Smith Welch and White firm that said the estimated startup for the police would be five between four to five million dollars. [2:55:45, 2:55:48]: Now Reed just voted on three million dollars. [2:55:48, 2:55:53]: Um now in in regards to this, we have 14 million dollars for a [2:55:53, 2:55:54]: Art Center. [2:55:56, 2:55:56]: And [2:55:57, 2:56:01]: You know, w the last numbers I saw at one point were like twenty seven million. [2:56:02, 2:56:06]: So are we just throwing numbers out and then say [2:56:06, 2:56:17]: Are we going to be hypocritical about it and say, oh, we need to get all the costs. We need to know what we're bidding, what we're bonding out, such as the amount that we bonded for the amphitheater. [2:56:17, 2:56:20]: Um, even though that was a different scenario. [2:56:21, 2:56:27]: Are we going are we gonna try to get those costs? Now normally some states. [2:56:27, 2:56:31]: And s even some places in Georgia get a [2:56:31, 2:56:35]: Upfront preemptive cost analysis done. [2:56:36, 2:56:38]: on how much it would take for a project to be complete. [2:56:40, 2:56:46]: I'm not against bonding anything. I don't want to push back any more projects. I don't want to hold up anything. [2:56:46, 2:56:48]: But I feel like [2:56:50, 2:56:55]: I represent Marnart Village. I feel like I represent the city of Stockbridge. I feel like I represent [2:56:56, 2:57:07]: The people when making an educated decision on just throwing some money out there and bonding and not knowing how much something really is going to cost. So when that bond starts. [2:57:08, 2:57:12]: To start when we start making payments, we're accruing interest. [2:57:12, 2:57:20]: I'd rather know the cost up front, regardless if it was 27 million dollars to bond or 30 million, than to piecemeal this. [2:57:21, 2:57:24]: Um, I think it's a poor choice for us. [2:57:25, 2:57:34]: I am not against the projects. I believe in progress. I believe in being progressive, but I also believe in being a professional and doing things in the right manner. [2:57:34, 2:57:45]: Right now, not one of us can tell you that it's gonna cost us$14 million or close to that to build an art center, not with all the amenities and bells and whistles that we would like. [2:57:46, 2:57:54]: And so I ask that we we make we um I would personally want to make a motion to table this until we got some concrete numbers. [2:57:55, 2:58:05]: Well actually we I won't have to just stand by a second. Councilman Barber, uh you have you have any comments? Uh one last comment or so here. Anything, nothing, you're good? All right. So what's on the [2:58:06, 2:58:25]: Gentlemen, I mean, uh, I don't know how far we're gonna go with this. We have a potential pro situation here where we need to have a motion one way or the other. But what I understand is that seven million dollars when what Mr. Uh Mr. Wall outlined some additional things there. So obviously we need to make sure we have the motion right, whatever we we plan to do. [2:58:26, 2:58:35]: Yeah, Mayor I'm sorry, Mayor, and I'll I'll yield to um perhaps Mr. Seldy or Mr. Wall. I think if you want to consider [2:58:36, 2:58:39]: All of these bonding items, if that is the pleasure of the council. [2:58:40, 2:58:45]: It can be done, I believe, in one vote. Is that right, gentlemen? In one resolution. [2:58:45, 2:58:47]: That would capture all of this. [2:58:48, 2:59:00]: As the amphitheater, cultural arts center, and the trails, all encompassed into one vote and one resolution that would address all of the bonding matters as Mr. Wall outlined. [2:59:02, 2:59:02]: Okay. [2:59:03, 2:59:04]: Is that correct, gentlemen? [2:59:05, 2:59:07]: It it is sir. Did you want to add the [2:59:08, 2:59:11]: The police stuff to the same resolution. [2:59:12, 2:59:12]: Mayor. [2:59:12, 2:59:15]: That would be the that would be the one item that would need to be formally added. [2:59:16, 2:59:21]: Mayor, I would like to do it separately because I'm gonna vote for one bonding item, which is the amphitheater. [2:59:21, 2:59:24]: But I'm not going to vote for things that are unknown. [2:59:26, 2:59:26]: Okay. [2:59:28, 2:59:30]: All right. It could be done that way as well, I suppose. [2:59:31, 2:59:32]: Yes, sir. [2:59:32, 2:59:33]: Okay. [2:59:34, 2:59:46]: Okay, so um all right, so we need a couple different uh uh motions here if we're gonna do it that way. So can I share my screen? Yes, go ahead. Mayor go ahead, please. [2:59:59, 3:00:05]: Mayor I'm sorry. Do we make a decision to take them all uh separately? I believe we should vote for them all together. [3:00:07, 3:00:14]: Well just go ahead, stand by, please. Uh Members, go ahead, Ed, while you you show the screen, so you want to explain something to us here. [3:00:15, 3:00:22]: So we could it like Councilman Alexander, you could take it all at once or you could take them individually. What you're approving [3:00:22, 3:00:24]: Are these three things here? [3:00:25, 3:00:26]: And um [3:00:26, 3:00:29]: You'll you'll need to decide if you want to add [3:00:29, 3:00:30]: Police [3:00:30, 3:00:31]: to um [3:00:31, 3:00:32]: T to number three. [3:00:33, 3:00:34]: Plus police. [3:00:36, 3:00:36]: And [3:00:36, 3:00:38]: It's two point two five percent. [3:00:40, 3:00:40]: So I've got [3:00:41, 3:00:42]: one point three two [3:00:43, 3:00:44]: For the amphitheater. [3:00:44, 3:00:46]: And a small portion of the cultural arts center. [3:00:47, 3:00:48]: We've got uh [3:00:50, 3:00:55]: A 21B, which is a four-year maturity at 1.04% for the trails. [3:00:55, 3:01:02]: And then we got a C issue, which is a 15-year maturity for the Cultural Arts Center and police at a seven-year maturity. [3:01:05, 3:01:25]: Okay, and I I would think that the suggestion would be that uh and I've that's my p personal opinion here, that we take three separate uh motions here for three separate issues and make sure we we track the the total number, what what whatever the council has to say on that, and then we'll do it three different ways. And that way maybe that that'll help s some simplify things, I would think. Is my thought. [3:01:25, 3:01:30]: process anyway. Yes, okay okay, no problem. Yes, Ms. Clerk. Yes. [3:01:30, 3:01:41]: Mayor, um Miss Gantt um mentioned in her comments a motion to table. I need to know was that just a suggestion or was that an actual motion that she wants to put on the table? [3:01:42, 3:01:55]: I don't know if she can hear you. I don't know what the what she wanted to do with it. No, we we have to vote on certain issues. So I I only wanted to table those like the Cultural Arts Center that we don't have any information on the cost. [3:01:56, 3:01:58]: That's all. We're bonding for [3:01:59, 3:02:01]: But so I'll I'll hold off on tabling. [3:02:02, 3:02:06]: Thank you. So so what I think would probably be helpful with [3:02:07, 3:02:20]: We got three different issues, three different different motions I think we can make, approve or disapprove, and uh with the numbers that are that are on the screen, and then that will probably help solve. [3:02:20, 3:02:22]: Yes, yes, sir. Alrighty, please. [3:02:23, 3:02:26]: Are you you talking to me, Mayor? I thought you didn't you just call my name? [3:02:27, 3:02:31]: Yeah, I I wanna make a motion to go ahead and the money is for the amphitheater that we need to complete. [3:02:32, 3:02:36]: complete this project. I think what was it the seven million, Mr. Knighton? [3:02:36, 3:02:38]: That we will be approving for that. [3:02:41, 3:02:50]: Yeah, yes, that's correct. Well, I'd like to make a motion to go ahead right ahead and we'll deal with the other to go ahead and approve the seven million for the uh completion of the amphitheater. [3:02:51, 3:02:51]: A second. [3:02:53, 3:02:55]: All right. Now [3:02:55, 3:03:11]: If that okay it's been made motion been made in a second, but if we if we approve that, how does that affect these other things with with uh series twenty-one A, B, and C, 2021 A, B, and C. Mayor, this all this came in, Mayor. Uh this is this is uh stuff that was added on and discussed. [3:03:12, 3:03:16]: The the amphitheatre is an ongoing project. And so my thing is because [3:03:16, 3:03:21]: The the other issues are in litig uh it is kind of being litigated between us. [3:03:21, 3:03:26]: But what one thing we I think we all agree with we need to f bring the money forward and finish this amphitheater. [3:03:27, 3:03:27]: Okay. [3:03:28, 3:03:32]: All right. All right. I'll tell you what. So we got a we have a uh uh [3:03:32, 3:03:39]: A motion on the floor for seven million for an amphitheater completed been seconded. All in favor of that uh motion, please indicate. [3:03:41, 3:03:47]: One, two, and wait is a setup uh is that the unanimous unanimous? [3:03:47, 3:03:48]: Uh [3:03:49, 3:03:53]: But but you're you you're you agree with that? [3:03:55, 3:04:02]: Well, what it amounts to, we're gonna have to put it back up in just a second though. We can take it up now, but you have to come put it back to to go through the rest of these things. Well [3:04:04, 3:04:10]: All right, so the reference is seven million dollars. Most of the made in second. So all in favor of that for the amphitheater, seven million. [3:04:12, 3:04:12]: Yeah. [3:04:12, 3:04:14]: Maybe and Miss Barber. [3:04:18, 3:04:24]: I have five oh mayor. Okay, five of because I couldn't for somehow I couldn't see everybody. All right. Uh stand by. [3:04:33, 3:04:52]: All right. Anyway, so um, all right, now, well, that's the amphitheater. So that passed five oh in reference to seven million to fund the amphitheater. Now those the the the issue deals with everything else in reference to um what Mr. Walls has presented based on uh conversation we had. Yes, Mr. Blount. [3:04:53, 3:04:56]: Mayor I like the motion that we uh table. [3:04:57, 3:05:12]: other two items to get more information. We I I think we all want this to happen. I just want the council to get more information before making this decision. So I would like for us to table this to get more information and we all make the decision to do what we need to do. [3:05:13, 3:05:16]: All right. Is yes the motion is there b is there a second? [3:05:17, 3:05:18]: High second. [3:05:18, 3:05:19]: Mm-hmm. [3:05:20, 3:05:40]: Any more discussion? I would imagine we had enough discussion. So all in favor of mayor, I just wanted to ask Mr. Knighton, do we even have a final design on the art center or a a final cost or any kind of cost or or anything before we vote on something that we don't do we have a final of anything? Do we have any type of idea of what this is gonna cost us? [3:05:40, 3:05:41]: Right now. [3:05:42, 3:05:45]: As of right now, yes we do. However [3:05:46, 3:05:52]: Council dictated fourteen million dollars. So that's what we're gonna give you. And we're working with T we're working with TSW. [3:05:53, 3:05:55]: To winnow that down. [3:05:55, 3:06:00]: to 14 million dollars. Well can you give me the actual cost right now that what you have? [3:06:01, 3:06:03]: On one second. [3:06:03, 3:06:04]: Mm-hmm. [3:06:06, 3:06:10]: Again, that that is based on a different scenario. [3:06:11, 3:06:12]: Let's see. [3:06:16, 3:06:23]: Uh like it was twelve million change for a building and two million change for furnishings, wasn't it? [3:06:24, 3:06:25]: Well that was the [3:06:26, 3:06:32]: Stand stand by, uh uh Mayor Protestant. Stand by. Let let these gentlemen finish out this com piece of this conversation here. [3:06:32, 3:06:38]: The the latest iteration that I have as of last week when we're trying to work with TSW. [3:06:39, 3:06:41]: To bring the cost down was a major [3:06:42, 3:06:43]: Um [3:06:43, 3:06:46]: uh cost of fourteen point three seven eight [3:06:47, 3:06:48]: However [3:06:48, 3:06:53]: With bond insurances, fees, escalation, design contingency. [3:06:53, 3:06:58]: Um and all of that, that number is eighteen point four nine one on that building. [3:06:59, 3:07:01]: Again, I want to emphasize. [3:07:02, 3:07:05]: Council said a building of 14 million dollars. [3:07:05, 3:07:10]: So that is what I'm working with TSW to do is a$14 million building. [3:07:10, 3:07:30]: Exactly. All the Does that include that so that includes the ballroom and all the other things that we wanted at the time, minus the museum. I know that might be one of the things taken out, but these the indefinites, does it include the main things that we wanted? Because remember, we got rid of the Ted Strickland Community Center, you know, where people are [3:07:30, 3:07:31]: able to congregate. [3:07:32, 3:07:44]: So my question is, does it include a place for to meet the ballroom and everything else? Yes. Because we okay, it does. Let me let me make sure and Heather is on here. Yes, it includes the ballroom and the um [3:07:45, 3:07:46]: The um [3:07:48, 3:07:49]: The theater, of course. [3:07:49, 3:07:53]: So so if I can just interject, if you don't mind, Mr. Knightman. [3:07:54, 3:07:55]: Sure. Um [3:07:55, 3:08:02]: So TSW early on did a rough order of magnitude cost, which showed a large swing. [3:08:02, 3:08:04]: uh guesstimate. [3:08:04, 3:08:06]: Between two numbers. [3:08:06, 3:08:07]: Um [3:08:08, 3:08:10]: We've since then just in the last month. [3:08:11, 3:08:15]: uh worked with an outside consultant, um A D E [3:08:15, 3:08:16]: Uh [3:08:17, 3:08:18]: uh consulting. [3:08:18, 3:08:22]: that specializes in construction cost estimating. [3:08:22, 3:08:24]: Uh and they just in the last week. [3:08:25, 3:08:27]: Have come back with an estimate which [3:08:27, 3:08:29]: Mr. Knighton is referring to. [3:08:29, 3:08:29]: So [3:08:30, 3:08:36]: Um that estimate is based on the concept that you have seen, which includes a museum. [3:08:36, 3:08:37]: Um [3:08:37, 3:08:39]: The art gallery, the ballroom. [3:08:40, 3:08:41]: Uh the the um [3:08:42, 3:08:48]: theater uh and all of the the kind of bells and whistles that have been requested to make that a full functioning theater. [3:08:49, 3:08:50]: What about land? [3:08:50, 3:08:58]: Uh that includes site development as well. So um and those hard costs are what uh Mr. Knighton is referring to. [3:08:58, 3:09:03]: Those are the um eighteen point five million dollars. So [3:09:03, 3:09:06]: Uh to get down to a fourteen [3:09:06, 3:09:09]: million dollar project, we will have to cut from that. [3:09:09, 3:09:10]: Um [3:09:10, 3:09:14]: program. Uh we have to pull out uh fourteen million. [3:09:14, 3:09:17]: Um so that can be uh in [3:09:18, 3:09:21]: site uh that can be in program in the building. [3:09:21, 3:09:23]: Uh, but we will need to cut to get down. [3:09:23, 3:09:27]: to a a project that can be built under fourteen million. [3:09:28, 3:09:29]: And you say [3:09:30, 3:09:31]: Right now we're at eighteen. [3:09:32, 3:09:35]: Yeah, eighteen point five in in round numbers. [3:09:35, 3:09:39]: Um and Mr. Knighton, of course that didn't have time to get in your packets. Uh [3:09:39, 3:09:41]: Uh for this evening. [3:09:41, 3:09:45]: Um, I'm sure he'll share that detailed cost estimate with you. Uh [3:09:45, 3:09:46]: Uh soon. [3:09:47, 3:09:51]: Including parking, including the features from the application and everything. [3:09:52, 3:09:52]: Correct. [3:09:53, 3:09:55]: Uh it includes demolition. [3:09:56, 3:09:58]: Паркін вегетація. [3:09:58, 3:10:02]: Outside as well as um you know all the fixed furnishings inside. [3:10:03, 3:10:04]: Of course, again. [3:10:04, 3:10:06]: Movable furniture is not included. [3:10:07, 3:10:07]: Okay. [3:10:10, 3:10:11]: Airport Tim, go ahead, please. [3:10:12, 3:10:17]: Yeah, I guess yeah, okay. Um this is what I'm saying here, okay. [3:10:17, 3:10:21]: Mayor, you yourself stood in front of this building. [3:10:21, 3:10:24]: In twenty sixteen or twenty seven with a sledgehammer. [3:10:24, 3:10:37]: That's right. Knocked it down. We promised the citizens that this building was coming back up. It's 2021 and the lot is still empty. Yet we're saying wait. [3:10:39, 3:10:56]: That's why the citizens lose confidence in us when we tell them we're gonna execute a project. We told them in 2016 and 17, we got a new art center coming. What happened? It's 2021. They don't believe us because we don't follow through. This is exactly it. [3:10:57, 3:11:02]: The Carrie Mae Hambrick Cultural Art Center needs to go up. [3:11:02, 3:11:16]: And people need to have confidence. We're not sitting on this money. The amphitheater is going to be finished and the cultural arts center is going to start right away. Not next year, this year. And it's going to be done. [3:11:18, 3:11:21]: And guess what? We're not gonna sacrifice anything. [3:11:22, 3:11:31]: The$14 million fund, okay, yeah, that's$14 million. If we need to maneuver, we have other options. [3:11:32, 3:11:48]: Okay, we certainly do. We keep acting like we keep trying to penny pinch. I'm not gonna sacrifice the project and make it unworthy of the money. We're gonna put the money with it to make the amphitheater best in class. [3:11:49, 3:11:54]: We're gonna make the Culture Arts Center best in class. That's what we're gonna do. [3:11:55, 3:12:00]: Uh if nobody else will do it, I certainly will make the motion to move forward. [3:12:01, 3:12:21]: Well, well, first of all, we the seven hundred seven hundred thousand dollars, I mean seven million dollars for empathy is done. That's good, that passed unanimously, which is great. Now we're talking about these are different additional uh items that was on Mr. Wall's conclusion. And I think that's what we need to go back to to do do these motions properly, one way. [3:12:21, 3:12:34]: the other, whether it failed, pass, or fail. That's my assumption. Is that the proper way to do this? I'll make a motion to move forward with this uh with uh as recommended for the Cultural Art Center. That's what we were talking about, Cultural Arts Center. [3:12:34, 3:12:38]: I want to move forward with it. I don't want any delay. Carrie may go. [3:12:38, 3:12:44]: I think a motion on the table to you have a motion on the floor to table and on second. Call for the vote. [3:12:44, 3:12:45]: Mayor. [3:12:45, 3:12:46]: Yes, ma'am. [3:12:46, 3:12:47]: Thank you. [3:12:48, 3:12:50]: Listen, um Castlema Alexander [3:12:50, 3:12:54]: I think everybody agrees with you. No one wants to hold up a project. [3:12:55, 3:13:15]: And I think we all are entitled to make sure that whatever we do, we're spending the taxpayers' money that we have it accounted for. Not one time did you ask one of these questions in regards to how much is it gonna cost? What's the estimate right now, and where we are? Now you could have known that already, but I didn't. So I want to [3:13:14, 3:13:34]: the citizens to know that right now it's an estimate of 18.4 million or whatever the case may be, and we need to reduce it down to the 14 million. So, you know, that state-of-the-art building you were talking about is going to be reduced down and we're going to lose and change some things because we cannot get it to the 14 [3:13:34, 3:13:51]: million right now where we are. At one point it was up in the 20s. And that's where I was. I wanted to know where we are now. We also have some additional issues that we have to take top discuss in regards to this building that our executive session. So [3:13:51, 3:14:00]: I don't want any problems. I don't want us coming back when they say, oh, it's five million, it's ten million, oh, we didn't know these costs. We're doing it right now. [3:14:01, 3:14:11]: And I have no problem with it. I love I can't wait until we get started. I've always said I want to see bulldozers bulldozers pushing over the building. [3:14:11, 3:14:15]: But that is not in in this particular case. [3:14:15, 3:14:24]: Let's be real about it. The speeches and the you know the the theatrics, that's not gonna fly when it comes to being accountable for our citizens' money. [3:14:25, 3:14:31]: Time out for the Obama speeches. It's time if we're gonna do it, fine. But let's be educated on it. [3:14:32, 3:14:35]: Okay. Um Mr. Williams, you had your hand up, sir. [3:14:35, 3:14:35]: Mm-hmm. [3:14:36, 3:14:51]: Mr. Wiggins. No? Well, okay. The motion been made myself to table. That's what we motion been made to table the set made most made to uh table this and it's been seconded. All right. So let's vote on that. [3:14:51, 3:14:53]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:14:54, 3:14:54]: Yeah. [3:14:56, 3:14:58]: Okay, two all pose. [3:15:01, 3:15:04]: Three. Okay. So the motion now fails. Now let's go back to how we what [3:15:05, 3:15:11]: Yes. Yes, Mr. I have my hand up. No, no, he he Blount was first. Go ahead. He he beats by a little bit. Go ahead. Go ahead, Blount. [3:15:11, 3:15:18]: Mayor, uh Mayor, I just want to say that w we're we're not tabling progress in the city of Stockbridge. [3:15:19, 3:15:23]: We're table and getting facts about moving projects in the city of Stockbridge. [3:15:24, 3:15:30]: We're tabling because we wanted to table because we we're sitting here. [3:15:30, 3:15:34]: And about to bond twenty five million dollars with projects on hand. [3:15:34, 3:15:40]: And then now with now at the end of all of this money, now we're talking about public safety. [3:15:40, 3:15:46]: To me, public safety is is was more important to me than where we're at with it now. [3:15:47, 3:15:53]: You see what I'm saying? Now we put we put it at the end on uh on the top of tens of millions of dollars, then we put public safety there. [3:15:54, 3:15:55]: This city has been [3:15:56, 3:15:58]: This city I've been told by a financial advisor. [3:16:00, 3:16:02]: That the way we're operating is backwards. [3:16:03, 3:16:04]: I'm just gonna put it out there. [3:16:05, 3:16:13]: And if we think this because we have the power to do something, go right ahead. But I want every each and every council member on here to see the citizens are watching this. [3:16:14, 3:16:27]: And we're accountable for the actions we make. When we just open the purses, open up our purses, the city's purse to every every option and whim that we have with our professional decisions being made by those that we hired to help give it to us. [3:16:28, 3:16:31]: Go right ahead, the citizens are looking. [3:16:31, 3:16:32]: Бо во ми сиди. [3:16:32, 3:16:39]: And we can say, hey, it doesn't matter if we get all the facts, it doesn't matter we get all the information. We doesn't matter what what impact it is on the city. [3:16:40, 3:16:43]: Go ahead and vote and move it. Make the put the money there and we'll figure it out later. [3:16:44, 3:16:46]: We'll figure it out later. And that's what we're doing. [3:16:47, 3:16:48]: All right. We'll figure it out later. [3:16:48, 3:16:57]: All right. It's been table uh k not could be tabled, but go ahead. Mayor Pro Tem uh Alexander, what's your next comment? Thank you. I wanna make a motion to move forward. [3:16:57, 3:17:00]: With the Carrie May Hambrick Cultura Art Center. [3:17:01, 3:17:04]: Ескрай фортем мільйон долар. [3:17:04, 3:17:08]: And trust and believe we're not gonna cut corners on it. We're gonna make it the best. [3:17:09, 3:17:10]: A second. [3:17:11, 3:17:13]: All right. Now [3:17:13, 3:17:33]: I got a question properly made and seconded. Now when we say 14 million dollars, now that is I I know bonds, but anyway, that was mixed in with a couple of those options that uh Mr. Wall gave us, right? You had you had uh A, B, and C. So I just wanted to make sure that we are we're supposed to follow one of those. You're talking about 14 million, so we got to [3:17:33, 3:17:38]: follow one of those those options to make this happen if it's going to be approved. Is that correct? [3:17:42, 3:17:44]: I tell you, Ms. Wall, can you share your your your screen again, please? [3:17:45, 3:17:53]: Yes, that's a legal question. I need Mike Williams or Doug Selby to talk about it. Okay. All right. Then someone legally answer that, please. [3:17:55, 3:18:01]: So the the motion for fourteen million is different from what was presented on the screen. [3:18:01, 3:18:02]: And so my my [3:18:03, 3:18:06]: What I believe uh Mayor Pro Tem meant. [3:18:06, 3:18:10]: was the the Carrie May Hambrick uh [3:18:10, 3:18:13]: option with the police that was the that [3:18:14, 3:18:16]: A third option. I think that's where he was going. [3:18:18, 3:18:19]: Yes, uh the [3:18:20, 3:18:22]: What uh the uh that op [3:18:22, 3:18:23]: Um [3:18:23, 3:18:28]: As I would like to restate the motion as stated by the city attorney. [3:18:30, 3:18:49]: Okay, so all right, but which one uh stand by Miss Holliday? So I I think we need to go back once again, Mr. Wall, I think we need to go back to your screen and what you showed for our conclusion, make sure we got the right verbiage and uh right before we go for any further. Miss Holliday, I I'm not sure what you needed, man, but what what's on your mind? [3:18:50, 3:18:51]: There's also um [3:18:53, 3:19:04]: There's also mention of the trails in this um item. I just didn't know if it needed to be included in the motion. Mr. Wall. It does, yes. It does, yes, ma'am. Go back to Ms. Wall. [3:19:05, 3:19:05]: You got it. [3:19:08, 3:19:11]: I thought they were all separate. I guess they're not. So [3:19:12, 3:19:13]: Why? [3:19:17, 3:19:17]: So um [3:19:19, 3:19:22]: Just just tell me which one it is so I can read it. [3:19:23, 3:19:24]: So [3:19:24, 3:19:25]: Um [3:19:26, 3:19:29]: You've already approved the amphitheater. [3:19:29, 3:19:33]: But because we're paying for the am a part of the cultural arts center. [3:19:34, 3:19:37]: out of splost in addition to the amphitheater, we have one bond issue. [3:19:38, 3:19:40]: The twenty twenty one A. And so if you'll just read [3:19:41, 3:19:44]: One, two, and three and just make motions like that. [3:19:44, 3:19:45]: That's what um [3:19:46, 3:19:49]: Mike Williams and Doug Selby need for the bond documents. [3:19:51, 3:19:52]: Okay. [3:19:52, 3:19:55]: So we're talking about we're talking about three different [3:19:55, 3:20:01]: Three different uh motions and seconds and approval or disapproval is what we're talking about here. Is that correct? Yes, sir. [3:20:01, 3:20:01]: Right. [3:20:03, 3:20:03]: Right. [3:20:03, 3:20:04]: Okay. [3:20:05, 3:20:05]: Um [3:20:06, 3:20:11]: Uh, I'd like to make a motion for series twenty twenty one a bond issue. [3:20:11, 3:20:15]: with a four year maturity at an interest rate of one point three two [3:20:15, 3:20:19]: To fund the amphitheater and small portion of the culture art center. [3:20:20, 3:20:24]: in the amount of nine million nine hundred and ten thousand [3:20:25, 3:20:26]: There are second. [3:20:27, 3:20:28]: A certain [3:20:29, 3:20:31]: Mr Mr Mr. Thomas Seconds that [3:20:32, 3:20:35]: Okay, motion is made in a second. All in favor of that, please indicate. [3:20:36, 3:20:43]: One two I need to hear a um a verbal because I can't see can't see everybody. [3:20:44, 3:20:44]: That's right. [3:20:45, 3:21:05]: Verbally, uh Councilman Blanc, you're the first one I see. You have to ask that there Okay, I can see everyone now if we could call for the vote again, please. But that was a motion in a second without a discussion. We need to Well I can, but but but you want discussion, go right ahead, sir. Go ahead. What's your comment? Well, what we're getting ready to vote on for the amount of money. [3:21:06, 3:21:11]: How with the city with this with the profile that you have for the city, how will we pay for this? [3:21:14, 3:21:18]: I apologize. Is that a c question for me, Councilman Blount? Yes, sir. [3:21:19, 3:21:23]: Well what you have to city, how will we pay for this? [3:21:23, 3:21:27]: The motion on the table the motion on the table for twenty twenty one A [3:21:27, 3:21:29]: is to be paid from Splost Five. [3:21:30, 3:21:30]: Okay. [3:21:31, 3:21:31]: In in total. [3:21:33, 3:21:35]: So four year bond paid by Splost. [3:21:36, 3:21:36]: Um [3:21:36, 3:21:39]: For the entire amphitheater for seven million. [3:21:39, 3:21:42]: And two million eight thirty six for a portion of the cultural arts center. [3:21:43, 3:21:53]: Okay, but we're we're talking about a a a grand total of twenty-five million with Right. So series the series B coming up is for the trails. That's all from Splosh Five. [3:21:54, 3:21:56]: In the series C bond issue. [3:21:56, 3:22:00]: is the rest of the cultural arts center, eleven million and change. [3:22:00, 3:22:02]: And three mayjen for police. [3:22:02, 3:22:08]: And that has to be paid out of the general fund. And that total payment is a million five hundred and thirty five thousand annually. [3:22:08, 3:22:09]: For seven years. [3:22:10, 3:22:13]: And then dropping to nine hundred and seventy two thousand for years eight through fifteen. [3:22:14, 3:22:15]: Okay. [3:22:15, 3:22:15]: Thank you. [3:22:16, 3:22:18]: Um Mr. Wall, please go back to your screen. [3:22:19, 3:22:19]: Yes, sir. [3:22:26, 3:22:28]: Pretty cool. Right. [3:22:35, 3:22:44]: Okay, the motion's been made in a second for number one. All right. Now what we're gonna have to do since we since this screen is up, we can't see everybody. So we need you to verbally uh approve or disapprove. [3:22:45, 3:22:53]: Okay, so all in favor of motion of of the uh number one. Um uh Mr. Blount, I I see you first. Are you in favor? Yeah or nay? [3:22:56, 3:23:01]: Mayor, only thing I'm approving tonight was the amphitheater. Everything else. [3:23:01, 3:23:04]: I I I'm not approved. Okay, so that's a nay. Uh Mayor Pro Tem. [3:23:05, 3:23:06]: Yes. [3:23:06, 3:23:08]: Of um Councilman Thomas. [3:23:09, 3:23:10]: Yes. [3:23:10, 3:23:11]: Councilman Barber. [3:23:11, 3:23:12]: Yes. [3:23:12, 3:23:14]: Okay, Councilwoman Gan. [3:23:14, 3:23:18]: Yes. Okay, so that's uh four one on that particular motion. [3:23:19, 3:23:19]: All right. [3:23:20, 3:23:21]: I need a motion for number two. [3:23:21, 3:23:25]: Ser series two series twenty twenty one. [3:23:25, 3:23:27]: B bond issue. [3:23:27, 3:23:32]: with a four year maturity and interest rate of one point zero four percent. [3:23:33, 3:23:34]: To fund a portion [3:23:34, 3:23:38]: of the mult of the trails. This is our city multi use trail. [3:23:38, 3:23:41]: To copy a segment of the trail. [3:23:41, 3:23:42]: To get things started. [3:23:43, 3:23:45]: Exclusive of Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [3:23:46, 3:23:48]: East Atlanta and downtown areas. [3:23:49, 3:23:55]: So and that's for you gotta say the number here. That's for one one million one million thirty thirty thousand dollars. [3:23:56, 3:23:59]: Can hardly read that, but that's what it is. Okay. [3:23:59, 3:24:00]: Mayor. [3:24:00, 3:24:00]: Yes, ma'am. [3:24:01, 3:24:07]: I I just need to know I I know it's for the trails, but how much of a trail can we get for that amount? [3:24:09, 3:24:10]: Not much of a trail. [3:24:10, 3:24:15]: Yeah, what do we get? What are we paying? What are we getting with the one million? I'm I'm all [3:24:15, 3:24:16]: What are we getting with it? [3:24:17, 3:24:18]: You want me to answer that? [3:24:21, 3:24:41]: I don't know the actual length of the mail of the trails and the actual I know we have a schematic of trails uh for that we have uh had approved uh or had a a a feasibility study done on may on on the trails and the and my understanding the trails initially will start through the downtown area to connect everything on downtown and it's spread out from that point. [3:24:41, 3:24:41]: Point. [3:24:42, 3:24:48]: Right. Mr. Knighton, do we have money already set aside for trails and splaster or no? [3:24:49, 3:24:51]: There is some um [3:24:52, 3:24:55]: Road or park money can be used for trails. [3:24:55, 3:25:03]: How much of that some of that is envisioned probably four trails. It depends on what the council wants to spend, because in parks, I believe it was. [3:25:03, 3:25:14]: Four million in roads, I bel or I'm sorry. It's one million five oh one million five oh eight for parks and four million five ninety for roads. That's right. In roads in Splas five. That is correct. [3:25:15, 3:25:22]: So it depends on how ambitious the count the council wants to be with respect to trails. The other issue related to how much of a trail you can get. [3:25:23, 3:25:29]: depends on the section you choose because it could be right-of-way costs in some areas, could not be right-of-way costs in other areas. [3:25:29, 3:25:43]: And there could be other factors in certain areas and not other factors in other areas. So it depends on the the type of trail system you want. I would I would encourage the council in terms of looking at a full-scale trail network that it as this T-SPLOST. [3:25:44, 3:25:49]: Comes before voters in November, although we cannot uh officially advocate. [3:25:49, 3:25:52]: But that we take a very serious look. [3:25:52, 3:25:57]: Correct. Supplementing and supporting a full scale trail pro program is a part of the T S Plus. [3:25:57, 3:26:01]: Okay. How much interest are we paying, Mr. Wall, on that one million for [3:26:01, 3:26:07]: just to throw an allocate out there for a trail that we might have money already set aside for. [3:26:07, 3:26:09]: It's uh the interest rate uh [3:26:10, 3:26:13]: Councilman Ganttz um mit is one point zero four percent. [3:26:13, 3:26:17]: And the dollar amount for four years is thirty thousand. [3:26:17, 3:26:19]: Eight hundred and seventy one dollars. [3:26:20, 3:26:21]: Okay. [3:26:23, 3:26:24]: Yeah, pro ten. [3:26:24, 3:26:27]: Uh generally, according to the Path Foundation. [3:26:28, 3:26:30]: Uh for that particular amount, uh one [3:26:31, 3:26:37]: Uh between eight hundred thousand and nine hundred thousand dollars you can get one mile of twelve foot [3:26:37, 3:26:38]: Pair. [3:26:38, 3:26:53]: uh as they are constructed. But please understand, this$1 million is the seed money. Miss Harris Bragg came before us to ask what we need what she what we needed in terms of the$3 million in grants. [3:26:53, 3:26:56]: Would come in. So this one milyen dollars is the seed money. [3:26:56, 3:26:58]: uh that would uh in turn [3:26:58, 3:27:06]: uh possibly bring back up to three million dollars in grants. Uh that's all I need to know. Thank you. [3:27:07, 3:27:09]: Okay. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [3:27:09, 3:27:15]: Uh Mr. Knighton, uh the the monies that we're moving in sparse [3:27:15, 3:27:17]: uh for the roads [3:27:18, 3:27:24]: Uh, because I know we have a L Make list for last year, twenty twenty. We have one for twenty twenty one. [3:27:24, 3:27:37]: Uh-huh. Wouldn't these monies could couldn't these m would wouldn't those monies alloc would be allocated for improvements in different c areas that we would use for road improvements or right of way improvements or whatever? [3:27:37, 3:27:42]: Wasn't that wasn't that the purpose of that splost? I'm just c trying to understand. I I mean that that [3:27:43, 3:27:44]: I'm sorry, go ahead. [3:27:44, 3:27:48]: Yeah, well if we would start rem if we remove the four point five million. [3:27:48, 3:27:49]: Then then [3:27:50, 3:27:51]: Yeah, we're not [3:27:52, 3:27:57]: Yeah, we're not talking about the whole four point not not talking about removing all of the four point five million. [3:27:58, 3:28:18]: Uh the the spot category for roads is fairly flexible in terms of what you can use those monies for, be it a true road, a street, be it trails, things of that nature. So there's flexibility there with respect to using uh road money. Um the item we talked about related to East Atlanta and Lee Street. [3:28:18, 3:28:20]: Earlier, that's plus four money. [3:28:21, 3:28:22]: Uh, that we were talking about using. [3:28:23, 3:28:27]: Um, we're talking about uh anything related to this trail item. [3:28:27, 3:28:29]: Uh coming out of splast five. [3:28:29, 3:28:49]: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm speaking of the overall 25 million when we talked about the different scenarios on how to come to that for that to come to fruition. I think Mr. Walls mentioned Splos five removing four million. Uh correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Walls. I think you mentioned SPLOS five uh uh funds coming off the roads. [3:28:49, 3:28:50]: For [3:28:50, 3:28:56]: uh putting it in uh putting it in this uh implementing it in this uh whole scenario. Was that correct? [3:28:56, 3:29:00]: So the change order we approved tonight on the amphitheater. [3:29:01, 3:29:05]: Um the funding that we've identified for the amphitheater was a million seven short. [3:29:06, 3:29:11]: We were gonna take that million seven shortfall from the three million of splos four. [3:29:12, 3:29:16]: And it left a million three of splosh four for the roads around the amphitheater. [3:29:17, 3:29:24]: To the extent those roads cost more than that 1.3 million, I suggested it come from this four and a half million for roads and splost five. [3:29:25, 3:29:29]: And that's and that's what I'm talking about, Mr. Knight. We're we're depleting [3:29:29, 3:29:33]: Uh for for this project we're depleting spots. [3:29:33, 3:29:37]: Lost money for roles that the intent of it I thought was to [3:29:37, 3:29:40]: for for other areas of the city that needs uh [3:29:40, 3:29:41]: Uh I wouldn't. [3:29:42, 3:29:49]: I would I would say that staff of the financial advisor are presenting presenting you with scenarios. It is left up to the council to make a decision. [3:29:50, 3:29:51]: Of what you want to use monies for. [3:29:52, 3:29:53]: I would also mention again [3:29:54, 3:29:58]: I'm I'm emphasizing this because a T splot is a unique item. [3:29:58, 3:30:01]: We don't know if it'll pass in November, but certainly. [3:30:01, 3:30:10]: We need to have an eye on what benefits those monies could yield for the city. When we talk about all of these different networks, road improvements. [3:30:10, 3:30:15]: Trails, etcetera. That would be a tremendous boost if it were to pass. [3:30:15, 3:30:17]: And I think we always need to have that in our [3:30:18, 3:30:19]: In our sites. [3:30:19, 3:30:26]: But to answer your point again, um, that again is the council's choice uh to make decision on what money is to be used. We don't know. [3:30:26, 3:30:29]: What the roads of East East Atlanta and Lee Street. [3:30:29, 3:30:32]: will entail. We don't know where that's going to come in until we bid it out. [3:30:32, 3:30:35]: And so that's what Mr. Wall was alluding to. [3:30:35, 3:30:43]: comes in more than that, that that would be the primary recommended avenue to fund uh East Atlanta and Lee Street. [3:30:44, 3:30:46]: Mr. Wall, please go back to your screen. [3:31:02, 3:31:10]: All right. So we uh number two. And I believe uh Mayor Potem already read that for uh a motion and it was seconded, is that correct? [3:31:11, 3:31:26]: I don't have a second. I second. Okay. Miss Gantt second that. So all in favor. Well, we got to do this verbally as well, so we can see every get a verbal count. So all in favor of motion. And believe Mr. Blount, you said you're not going to vote for you vote negative on this. Is that correct? [3:31:30, 3:31:33]: Is this just is this just for the trail portion? [3:31:35, 3:31:36]: It says [3:31:37, 3:31:37]: Yes, sir. [3:31:38, 3:31:38]: All right. [3:31:38, 3:31:39]: I'm fine with that. [3:31:40, 3:31:42]: Oh, you're fine with that one. Okay, fantastic. [3:31:42, 3:31:44]: Um uh Councilman Thomas. [3:31:45, 3:31:45]: Yes. [3:31:46, 3:31:48]: Uh uh Mayor Potem Al Zander. [3:31:49, 3:31:49]: Yes. [3:31:50, 3:31:50]: Ms. Gantt. [3:31:54, 3:31:54]: Yes. [3:31:55, 3:31:56]: Councilwoman Barber. [3:31:56, 3:31:57]: Yes. [3:31:57, 3:31:59]: Okay, it's unanimous. Okay. Fantastic. Now. [3:32:00, 3:32:02]: Uh for the third motion, number three here. [3:32:02, 3:32:05]: Someone pro tem go ahead, please. [3:32:05, 3:32:08]: uh series twenty twenty one C Bun. [3:32:09, 3:32:11]: issue with a fifteen year maturity. [3:32:12, 3:32:13]: At an interest rate [3:32:14, 3:32:16]: Of two point two five percent. [3:32:16, 3:32:18]: To find portions. [3:32:18, 3:32:20]: Of the Culture Art Center. [3:32:20, 3:32:21]: Plus [3:32:21, 3:32:22]: Police equipment. [3:32:23, 3:32:24]: Um [3:32:25, 3:32:26]: For four. [3:32:26, 3:32:28]: Fourteen million, is that fourteen million? [3:32:29, 3:32:31]: Fourteen million eight hundred and fifty thousand. [3:32:31, 3:32:34]: Fourteen million eight hundred and fifty thousand. [3:32:34, 3:32:39]: To craft a best in class Carrie May Hambrick Culture Art Center. [3:32:40, 3:32:47]: and to do what's necessary to start the Stockbridge Police Department, which is long overdue. [3:32:48, 3:32:49]: Is there a second to the motion? [3:32:50, 3:32:52]: Uh Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir. [3:32:53, 3:32:57]: Um I I will make the motion, but let me be clear on [3:32:57, 3:33:02]: police equipment. Uh my question should that be [3:33:02, 3:33:07]: police startup or police equipment since it's been specified. [3:33:08, 3:33:16]: I I think maybe and thank you, um, Councilman Thomas for that question. Uh perhaps uh the term police capital equipment. [3:33:16, 3:33:19]: Maybe better. Is that Doug or Ed? [3:33:22, 3:33:23]: Yes, but that's fine. [3:33:23, 3:33:30]: Okay. I'll amend the motion to state police capital equipment. Thank you, uh, Councilman Thomas for the kick. [3:33:30, 3:33:36]: And and also cut Councilman Alexander, could you do fourteen million eight thirty? I put my glasses on, I'd read the number wrong. [3:33:36, 3:33:42]: Okay, and a correction uh amount of fourteen million eight hundred and thirty thousand. [3:33:43, 3:33:44]: A second. [3:33:44, 3:33:46]: Okay, there you go. [3:33:46, 3:33:51]: All right, let's do this verbally. All in favor of this motion, please indicate Mr. Blount. [3:33:54, 3:33:56]: Mayor. Yeah, what Mr. Knighton, do you have something, sir? [3:33:58, 3:34:04]: Oh, please go ahead. I would I would like to make a a comment after the motion is made. It'll be fine. Mr. Mr. Blount, yay or nay? [3:34:05, 3:34:05]: No. [3:34:06, 3:34:08]: Um uh Miss Gantt, yeah or nay. [3:34:09, 3:34:21]: I abstain because the police department is listed in there as well. And I've already told you my concerns about that with no actual startup cost that there's a difference from what I've read in some of the reports. Ms. Barber, what should [3:34:24, 3:34:28]: Yes. Uh mayor uh coun uh uh councilman Thomas. [3:34:29, 3:34:30]: Yes. [3:34:30, 3:34:31]: And Alexander. [3:34:32, 3:34:39]: Yes. Remember. Okay. So what's what is that? That is uh three one one. Three one one. Okay. Three one one. [3:34:39, 3:34:42]: All right. Uh Mr. Knighton, your uh your comments, please. [3:34:43, 3:34:48]: Just uh just real quick on the on the clarification on the cultural arts center. [3:34:48, 3:35:00]: Um, that was based on conversation that Heather and I had some time ago about a$14 million number. I got those numbers I read to you all this afternoon, or I'm sorry, I just read to you. I got those on Friday. [3:35:00, 3:35:02]: And haven't even had a chance to talk to Heather about [3:35:03, 3:35:09]: On how we reduce that number. We talked briefly today, but not a full conversation on how we reduce that number. And nobody has seen that. [3:35:09, 3:35:11]: Um, except Heather and myself. [3:35:12, 3:35:18]: Um and I've got to have further conversations of how we reduce that number to meet that 14 million dollars. [3:35:19, 3:35:32]: Okay, going on our next thing. Council consideration to approve stop bridge, public facilities authority, reven uh revenue bond, cultural arts center, and trail project to be issued an amount of three million nine four nine hundred forty thousand. [3:35:32, 3:35:52]: On a tax exempt basis and the use of SPLOS 5 revenues to pay all or portion of the on debt service and the Stockbridge Public Facilities Authority Revenue Bond Cultural Arts Center project to be issued an amount of$11,640,000 on a tax exempt bond, uh tax exempt. [3:35:52, 3:35:55]: Mr. Knight and Mr. Wall, what is [3:35:56, 3:36:00]: We we've got all that, Mayor. You can keep it. Yeah, that's that's what they just did. [3:36:00, 3:36:06]: You got all that. But I wanted to read this because it was on the agenda. Oh Lord. [3:36:07, 3:36:11]: It's on the gender. I'm trying to go through the agenda. Okay. That's done. All right. [3:36:11, 3:36:13]: Now now we got now we publicly know that. All right. [3:36:14, 3:36:20]: Uh so we move on council uh consideration to appoint a member uh to the main street advisory board. [3:36:20, 3:36:23]: Ms. Harris, please. Yes, sir. [3:36:23, 3:36:26]: Uh may I make a comment before we go to the next agenda item? [3:36:27, 3:36:28]: Go right in, sir. [3:36:28, 3:36:35]: And and I and I hope this is not a big d discussion or debate, but I just want to remind the council. [3:36:35, 3:36:39]: That m Mr. Knight and I a few months ago. [3:36:39, 3:36:42]: Um, research [3:36:42, 3:36:46]: And brought before the council a scenario where [3:36:47, 3:36:50]: Four hundred to five hundred thousand dollars. [3:36:50, 3:37:10]: Will be a surplus for bringing permitted in-house. Now I've heard all of this discussion about monies and this and that, but$400,000 to$500,000 was looking at us red in our eyes, and now here we are sort of scratching about where these funds is gonna come from. [3:37:10, 3:37:17]: I don't, you know, uh hopefully there's no no discussion or even comments about that, but I just want to put that out on the table. [3:37:18, 3:37:21]: That's a half a million dollars annually. [3:37:21, 3:37:41]: That could have been into this scenario and Mr. Night and I, and the reason I throw Mr. Night in there because it authenticates the research, a half a million dollars that we could have had and still could have uh in all of our financing. So, Mr. Mayor, you you can go ahead with the next agenda item. I just wanted to [3:37:41, 3:37:42]: Mentioned that. [3:37:42, 3:37:49]: Thank you, sir. Council consideration appoint a member of the Main Street Advisory Board, uh Miss Harris Braggs, please. [3:37:50, 3:38:10]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council members. I come before you tonight for approval for appointing another member to the Main Street Advisory Board. This person would fulfill the obligation of the position for a business owner or operator outside of the Main. [3:38:10, 3:38:11]: Street district. [3:38:11, 3:38:31]: And our candidate for appointment is Ms. Rocio Camacho. She is a principal at RCC Associates. And that is a business that is located within the city limits of Stockbridge. Her particular business handles insurance, bookkeeping, accounting, and [3:38:31, 3:38:47]: and provides tax services. Ms. Camacho has been very active with Main Street and citywide activities, including Brett Bridgefest, where she was a key contributor to our Hispanifest celebration. [3:38:47, 3:39:05]: She has also been instrumental in assisting the Main Street Advisory Board with making inroads into the Hispanic, Latino, and Spanish communities here in Stockbridge, especially for participation when we were working on our focus groups for the RSVP project. [3:39:05, 3:39:12]: Um, I would like to recommend that Ms. Camacho be appointed to the Main Street Advisory Board for a two-year term. [3:39:13, 3:39:22]: Uh Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, you had your hand up earlier. I'm gonna defer to Councilman Thomas as the um the main street representative. Councilman Thomas, sir. [3:39:23, 3:39:25]: Uh I'll I move. [3:39:26, 3:39:29]: That we accept мізи Camacho's [3:39:29, 3:39:34]: uh application to fill the vacancy on the Main Street board. [3:39:34, 3:39:35]: Second. [3:39:36, 3:39:37]: No matter we told me. [3:39:37, 3:39:41]: I think with the mayor pro tem Alexander on the second there. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:39:43, 3:40:03]: Okay, see Namas. Yeah, well, four, four, uh, Mr. Blount's not there. So four zero zero. He's not in his screen right there. Okay, now that was the five. All right. This is a Namus decision. On that note. Hold on, Mayor, real quick. Can I say one one little comment? Yeah, go ahead, sir. Miss Harris Bragg, let's [3:40:03, 3:40:05]: Let's bring back a spanifist. [3:40:07, 3:40:15]: They're interesting. Let's talk. I think you may have to talk with uh Miss CC McGee about that one, Miss uh Mayor Pro Tem. Okay, thank you. [3:40:16, 3:40:22]: All right. On that on that note, I have a few comments to make. As you well know, we're still in the midst of a a pandemic. [3:40:23, 3:40:43]: And so a couple things here. One is that you still can get tested free of charge. Uh if you at the Heritage Senior Center, located at 1050 Florence McGardy Boulevard, Monday to Thursday is uh 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Saturday, 9 a.m. to noon. You have to call this number, 800-847-442-780. [3:40:43, 3:40:51]: Once again, 800-847-4262. Or go to the Public Health Department District 4 website to make your appointment. [3:40:51, 3:40:57]: Now the uh appointments are still necessary for that, but what's even more important is the actual vaccination process. [3:40:58, 3:41:07]: All right, and we're phase one expanded. And you make an appointment, uh, you have to uh make the appointment, you have to call this number, 762-222-272-272- [3:41:07, 3:41:15]: eight eight eight eight one eight zero. Once again seven six two eight eight eight eight one eight zero. [3:41:15, 3:41:35]: Right now, to uh tomorrow, one second, Councilman Thomas. Tomorrow, uh the second shots are given to people who have already go to actually complete the series. The second shots only tomorrow are scheduled uh from it starts at 8:30 at Atlanta Motor Speedway. Okay. Now, next Tuesday, uh first [3:41:35, 3:41:43]: First shots will be given. And now we start at 8:30 on next Tuesday, and that's going to be at JP Moseley Park Recreational Center. [3:41:44, 3:42:04]: Once again, next Tuesday, first shots will be given. Starts uh at 8:30, schedule JPR JR Mosley Park Recreational Center. It's 1048 Miller's Mill Road, right in Stockbridge. Now, you have to qualify for that, which means you have to be a health care provider at a long-term care facility, EMS, first research. [3:42:04, 3:42:12]: Responders, police firefighters, or somehow correctional facilities, such as individuals that work at jails, individuals that are 65 or older. [3:42:13, 3:42:27]: and your health and people that have their their health care providers can also get vaccinated. This is gonna be ongoing for several months to get through all these phases. Okay. And there is information on on the Stockbridge website uh for for this. [3:42:27, 3:42:33]: Uh Councilman Thomas, you had your hand raised. I just wanted to share with uh the council and staff. [3:42:33, 3:42:40]: I guess um a week or two ago I uh actually um received my shot. [3:42:40, 3:42:45]: I uh I videotaped it and uh I will be sharing that uh with the council. [3:42:46, 3:42:47]: Fantastic. I appreciate that. [3:42:48, 3:42:50]: Yeah, yeah. Yes, Councilman Blount. [3:42:50, 3:42:58]: Mayor, could you uh also uh mention about Eugene Edwards, please? I got it, sir. I got it. It's coming up, it's coming up shortly. I will do that. [3:42:58, 3:43:05]: And uh since uh Councilman Thomas spoke up, I want to thank him for an outstanding African-American history program that went on virtually just the other day. [3:43:05, 3:43:20]: Uh fantastic. Look for even a better program next year. You got to improve each and every year. So it's it's fantastic. So I appreciate that as being a especially being a historical home, ancestral home of the King family, without a doubt. That's something to be proud of. [3:43:21, 3:43:32]: And and Mr. Blount, you're absolutely right. I have it right here. And um it is um uh unfortunate and with condolences uh sadness from myself, the council. [3:43:32, 3:43:52]: For Annette Edwards and her family for the passing of her husband, Eugene Edwards, which is longtime president of the Henry County NAACP. And may God continue to bless the family, the Edwards families that go through this most difficult time and this aspect. So please keep the family your prayers. Unfortunate to hear that. [3:43:52, 3:43:53]: And news. [3:43:55, 3:44:15]: That is all my comments for tonight. I'll go on to other announcements. Uh city offices are closed due to COVID-19 precautions until further notice. So if you have any city business, of course, contact us, uh find information, go to Web City's website and uh with the city of Stockbridge.com and uh be able to contact each department. [3:44:14, 3:44:17]: for your services or information. [3:44:17, 3:44:29]: Upcoming meetings and arranged and announcements and city council meetings, 6 p.m., second Monday of each month, which is what we're doing tonight. Main Street Advisory Board meetings at 9 a.m. second Friday of each month. [3:44:29, 3:44:49]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting is 6 p.m., third Tuesday of each month. Youth Council Advisory meeting, 6.30 p.m., third Tuesday of each month. Youth Council meeting 6.30 p.m. third Wednesday of each month. Planning Commission meeting 6.30 p.m. fourth Thursday of each month. [3:44:49, 3:44:57]: And our next city council work session is 6 p.m., which was also the last Thursday of each month. And of course, all these particular meetings are virtually. [3:44:57, 3:45:17]: And uh the upcoming public hearing we have for March 8th of 2021, uh 6 p.m. rezoning case of RZ 2020-02. An upcoming council initiative, Mayor Pro Tem Alexander is going to have his fifth annual women's uh history month celebration, of course virtually, uh, which is March 7th. [3:45:17, 3:45:25]: And any further information, you contact Zovia, Zobia, Zenovia, excuse me, excuse me, person. [3:45:25, 3:45:35]: At uh four oh four five six five five one zero nine. That's all those announcements. And outside uh I would imagine we have no executive session this evening. [3:45:35, 3:45:38]: And so outside of that, I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [3:45:39, 3:45:40]: So move. [3:45:40, 3:45:41]: There are a second. [3:45:42, 3:45:43]: Hi second. [3:45:43, 3:45:45]: Just can second it. All in favor, please indicate. [3:45:46, 3:45:49]: We are now standing here. God bless you all. Have a good evening. [3:45:49, 3:45:50]: Thank you.

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[0:00:52, 0:00:53]: And every day. [0:00:56, 0:00:57]: Comfort their pain. [0:00:58, 0:01:00]: Calm their fears. [0:01:01, 0:01:03]: And surround them with your peace. [0:01:05, 0:01:08]: Father, may the Holy Spirit guide. [0:01:08, 0:01:10]: and strengthen this council. [0:01:11, 0:01:13]: To make sound decisions. [0:01:14, 0:01:17]: That affect all citizens of Stockbridge. [0:01:19, 0:01:23]: Provide this council with all the the tools and resources. [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: To move this great city forward. [0:01:26, 0:01:28]: To be the best. [0:01:29, 0:01:29]: It can be. [0:01:30, 0:01:32]: Фадови с [0:01:32, 0:01:33]: For these blessings. [0:01:34, 0:01:35]: In Jesus' name. [0:01:35, 0:01:37]: Amen. Amen. [0:01:38, 0:01:40]: We please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:01:43, 0:01:55]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for what it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: Madam Clark, roll call, please. [0:02:09, 0:02:10]: Mayor Ford. [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: Present. [0:02:13, 0:02:13]: May approach. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: Protem Alexander. [0:02:16, 0:02:17]: President. [0:02:21, 0:02:22]: Cancel. [0:02:22, 0:02:23]: So one and barber. [0:02:24, 0:02:25]: Present. [0:02:29, 0:02:30]: Councilman Blount. [0:02:38, 0:02:41]: Council Member Blount, are you able to respond? [0:02:44, 0:02:45]: Present. [0:02:47, 0:02:49]: Yes. Um councilwoman Gantt. [0:02:53, 0:02:55]: All right, let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. [0:02:56, 0:02:58]: And Councilman Thomas. [0:02:59, 0:02:59]: Rose it. [0:03:01, 0:03:03]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. You have a quorum. [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:03:06, 0:03:08]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:03:09, 0:03:10]: Uh Mayor. [0:03:10, 0:03:11]: Yes, sir. [0:03:11, 0:03:16]: Okay, I'd like to amend the agenda, uh like to add um [0:03:16, 0:03:18]: A ceremonial piece up front. [0:03:19, 0:03:23]: uh in order to uh bestow the human trafficking [0:03:24, 0:03:26]: Awareness proclamation to [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: Uh [0:03:27, 0:03:31]: Uh Deborah Abernathy uh Delta Sigma Theta. I'd like that to be the first item. [0:03:31, 0:03:33]: On the agenda. [0:03:33, 0:03:36]: And the last item on the agenda. [0:03:36, 0:03:41]: Would like it to be a memorandum uh or a uh moratorium. [0:03:41, 0:03:44]: on the the leasing that's going on at the Pine View. [0:03:44, 0:03:47]: uh subdivision will attempt to tackle that. [0:03:47, 0:03:49]: uh city wide where a [0:03:49, 0:03:50]: Subdivision. [0:03:50, 0:03:52]: was actually bought out by a [0:03:53, 0:03:55]: investor and now has turned into [0:03:55, 0:03:56]: A rental. [0:03:56, 0:03:57]: Depart a rental. [0:03:57, 0:03:59]: subdivision which is just [0:03:59, 0:04:01]: Outlandish. So I'd like to add those two items. [0:04:02, 0:04:03]: Uh to the agenda. [0:04:04, 0:04:05]: So second to the motion. [0:04:05, 0:04:06]: A second. [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: Okay, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:04:10, 0:04:21]: Okay. Four or five. All right. Good deal. Uh on that note, uh you need to review your minutes for the following meetings. December twelfth. Yeah for it. Yes, ma'am. [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: Awesome. [0:04:27, 0:04:31]: I just wanted for the record to note that Councilwoman Gantt has joined the meeting. [0:04:31, 0:04:33]: Welcome, Councilwoman Gantt. [0:04:34, 0:04:34]: Okay. [0:04:35, 0:04:51]: uh review the minutes for the following meetings december twelfth excuse me uh december 14th which is a council meeting december 22nd which is a council work session and we had a special call meeting uh on the 29th of December so those are for you reviewed at our next uh [0:04:51, 0:04:54]: Council meeting will go ahead and approve those particular meetings. [0:04:55, 0:04:59]: And on this note, uh read a proclamation. Now I have to admit the proclamation. [0:04:59, 0:05:02]: typically is is uh differ different than we normally do this in a [0:05:02, 0:05:07]: in a council work session. Our policy has this at our regular council meeting, but we're gonna do this tonight. [0:05:08, 0:05:13]: So council, if we're gonna make this a plan to do this on a continued basis, we need to change the policy. [0:05:13, 0:05:16]: to reflect that. Typically I do this during my remarks at the end. [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: But regardless of that. [0:05:18, 0:05:20]: I'll read this tonight. Okay. [0:05:21, 0:05:26]: And uh Ms. Avermathy Abernathy, uh welcome uh to our council meeting. [0:05:27, 0:05:30]: Proclamation National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month. [0:05:31, 0:05:39]: Whereas in 2010, by presidential proclamation, January was declared National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month. [0:05:40, 0:05:49]: Whereas these proclamations not only rise to the profile of the issue, they also are also snapshots of global trends and challenges. [0:05:49, 0:05:52]: a significant US anti trafficking policy and achievements. [0:05:53, 0:05:58]: Whereas by some estimates, as many as twenty four point nine million people, adults and children. [0:05:58, 0:06:08]: are trapped in a form of human trafficking around the world, including the United States. Instability caused by natural disasters, conflict, or pandemic [0:06:08, 0:06:28]: Can increase opportunities for traffickers to exploit others. During the COVID-19 pandemic, traffickers are continuing to harm people, finding ways to innovate and even capitalize on the chaos. Whereas the Department of State rises awareness to human trafficking domestically and abroad through U.S. embassies. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: And consulates. [0:06:30, 0:06:40]: We also celebrate the efforts of anti-trafficking organizations, communities of faith, state and local law enforcement, survivor advocates, businesses, and private citizens all around the world. [0:06:40, 0:06:46]: Do promote this important cause. Everyone can play an a part in ending human trafficking. [0:06:46, 0:07:00]: And whereas every year in January, the city of Stockbridge dedicates the month of January to rising awareness about the different forms of human trafficking, also known as modern slavery, and educating people about this crime and how to spot it. [0:07:00, 0:07:06]: And now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:07:06, 0:07:15]: And on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gann, and Fonzo Thomas, to hereby proclaim January twenty twenty-one. [0:07:16, 0:07:35]: To be the National Slavery Human Trafficking Prevention Month in the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on its 26th day of January in the year of our Lord 2021, and I signed his proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: How standing. [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: Thank you, Miss Abernathie, for being present. [0:07:39, 0:07:43]: Uh by the way, Miss Iron Matthew, you have any comments at all at this time, ma'am. The floor is yours. [0:07:44, 0:08:01]: Yes, good evening, Mayor Ford and Stockbridge Council and staff, everyone who's assembled here. Thank you so much on behalf of the ladies of the Henry County Alumni Chapter Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated under our grand chapter, Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated. [0:08:02, 0:08:06]: On behalf of first vice president Daniels, our second vice president. [0:08:06, 0:08:07]: Um, Tow. [0:08:08, 0:08:18]: And the ladies, we thank you so much for recognizing the service and the work that we provide here in the Henry County area, Stockridge area as well. [0:08:19, 0:08:39]: We are an organization of sisterhood scholarship and service, and this piece is the service part. We have held forums on sex trafficking. We have given donations. We've supported other organizations in their efforts in sex trafficking. And we've also put um documents in different areas where young ladies [0:08:39, 0:08:59]: ladies um girls are vulnerable to um this issue that is going on. So that information that had been put in different bathrooms in the airport, bus stations, truck stops, those types of areas where there is a hotline number where they can get help. So we thank you so much. [0:08:59, 0:09:05]: Ford and Council for this recognition of our service that we provide. Thank you so much. [0:09:05, 0:09:17]: You're welcome. You're welcome. And by the way, I've got I have this in my home, so I'm gonna have to work out a process to get this to you. Okay. So so we'll within the next week, several days a week, we'll get somehow get this to you, okay? [0:09:17, 0:09:24]: Yes, thank you so much. We appreciate it. All right, Mayor Pro Tem uh Alexander, since you brought this forward, so you have any remarks at this time? [0:09:27, 0:09:32]: Uh yes, sir. Sorry about that. I was on mute. I'd like to thank uh Henry County Delta Sigma Theta. [0:09:33, 0:09:37]: And president Avernath, they they do such a great job in servicing the community. [0:09:38, 0:09:42]: And yes, I too uh tuned into a lot of the information that they had. [0:09:42, 0:09:48]: uh provided on sex trafficking. They've been in this uh since uh the information came about. [0:09:48, 0:09:55]: And they've actually led and been in the forefront. So everything that we can do in particular into recognizing. [0:09:56, 0:09:58]: Uh sex trafficking, human trafficking. [0:09:58, 0:10:02]: Just accused of k kids not being able to look you into the eye or [0:10:02, 0:10:04]: You know, someone paying too much. [0:10:04, 0:10:05]: You know, watching over a child. [0:10:06, 0:10:10]: Or or some uh or some strange occurred or something just didn't feel right about that. [0:10:11, 0:10:15]: particular instance or that interaction between uh the two individuals. [0:10:16, 0:10:21]: Those things are key because everybody has to have uh a set of eyes. It's all of us. [0:10:21, 0:10:26]: uh in this battle together. So I certainly appreciate Henry County Delta Sigma Theta. [0:10:26, 0:10:28]: And understanding that stop ridge led the way. [0:10:29, 0:10:30]: In twenty sixteen bringing [0:10:30, 0:10:32]: The first human trafficking. [0:10:32, 0:10:35]: Awareness uh proclamation to Henry County. [0:10:35, 0:10:39]: And today it is needed more than ever. So thank you, President Evernet. [0:10:40, 0:10:40]: Thank you much. [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Right. [0:10:42, 0:10:45]: On that note, we'll move on. Public comments. Um [0:10:46, 0:10:48]: Vanessa, we have any public comments at all. [0:10:48, 0:10:51]: Yes, Mayor, we do have a public comment. [0:10:51, 0:10:53]: Uh the um [0:10:55, 0:11:00]: The individual signed this a concerned resident in the Glen Addy subdivision. [0:11:00, 0:11:20]: Okay, to whom it may concern, in light of the proposed improvements and additions that have been promoted at various points since the cityhood fight, I was wondering where we stood on one of the most pressing issues coming out of the struggle: shoring up the city's boundaries so that the attempts to de-annex [0:11:20, 0:11:22]: Would be a non starter. [0:11:22, 0:11:29]: Another year has passed. We work too hard as citizens to see our efforts go by the wayside. [0:11:30, 0:11:40]: This item should be of utmost importance to you as referenced by our state senator. What progress has been made toward this effort? [0:11:41, 0:11:45]: We have also seen social media posts on the progress of the amphitheater. [0:11:45, 0:11:47]: Typically these types of project [0:11:47, 0:11:50]: projects will have a budgetary concern. [0:11:51, 0:12:02]: And at some point, updates are given as whether the project is on budget, under budget, or over budget because of unforeseen cost. Where do we stand? Citizens want to know. [0:12:03, 0:12:09]: Earlier there was a vote on a mask mandate, which was defeated by a three two vote of the council. [0:12:09, 0:12:23]: What are the protocols that are in place for businesses and parks? On sunny days, Memorial Park's basketball court is full of maskless individuals. As you know, the virus is raging in Henry County. [0:12:23, 0:12:26]: In McDonough, the golds have been removed. [0:12:26, 0:12:35]: In most public parks, do we not care about the health of our citizens in Stockbridge? And again, it is signed that concerned citizens. [0:12:35, 0:12:37]: From the Glen Addy subdivision. [0:12:37, 0:12:39]: There are no further comments, Mayor. [0:12:39, 0:12:42]: Okay. I remember that. I actually responded to that email to that uh [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: That concerns citizen. [0:12:45, 0:12:53]: And I believe someone else also responded to him as well in this aspect. But um okay. Um [0:12:54, 0:13:04]: Well, all those items have been at least with that individual. I I don't know if we need to go in a whole lot of detail on this now uh in reference to this, but um uh [0:13:04, 0:13:14]: Well all those items have been addressed over the past uh months in reference to uh what we do and how we do and we're trying to be very transparent in in all our messages here. [0:13:14, 0:13:18]: That's the last one. I'll I'll stop right there at that point. [0:13:18, 0:13:24]: uh old business, but the old business deals with a council consideration for establishing voting precincts. [0:13:25, 0:13:27]: Uh is it yes, ma'am. [0:13:28, 0:13:35]: Mayor, and unless Mr. Knighton objects, we were going to ask that this item be tabled because the Henry County Elections Director [0:13:36, 0:13:44]: And the polling coordinator were unable to attend tonight. They um had a conflict that came about. So we were going to ask that this item be tabled. [0:13:45, 0:13:51]: All right. So we here do we have any idea when they may very well want to come back and be available to give us a briefing. [0:13:52, 0:13:54]: We would have to coordinate those schedules again. [0:13:55, 0:14:03]: Um, we had it all set for them to attend tonight, but there was something that came up yesterday. We got the email, so we wanna exit that item be tabled. [0:14:04, 0:14:08]: Ms. Kent, Ms. Kent, go ahead, please. Mayor, I move that we m table this item. [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: All right, is there a second? [0:14:10, 0:14:11]: Second. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Right. [0:14:12, 0:14:13]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:14:15, 0:14:17]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:14:18, 0:14:30]: What was next was a public hearing. Um, council consideration to approve the 2020, 2020 to 2025 work term, excuse me, short term work program and capital improvements element. [0:14:31, 0:14:32]: Mr. Knighton, please. [0:14:34, 0:14:39]: Yes, Mayor Ford and Council. This is as you mentioned a public hearing item. [0:14:39, 0:14:51]: uh for the short-term work program and CIE update uh for the city of Stockbridge. This item uh identifies a number of different projects and let me just briefly explain for the viewing audience. [0:14:51, 0:15:00]: Um, comprehensive plans are usually established about every 10 years. Um, the city went through a comprehensive plan, full comprehensive plan process just a few years ago. [0:15:01, 0:15:14]: And in the interim, the state requires that there are certain updates that are provided annually on a regular basis. Um, and this is a part of that the short-term work program CIE update is a part of. [0:15:14, 0:15:18]: that interim update which is required by DCA. [0:15:19, 0:15:22]: If you approve this tonight, it'll be transmitted to the Atlanta Regional Commission. [0:15:22, 0:15:27]: And they will then review and transmit to the Department of Community Affairs at the state level. [0:15:27, 0:15:32]: What this essentially calls for is the identification of various projects. [0:15:33, 0:15:35]: The funding sources that are associated with them. [0:15:36, 0:15:39]: And then the status um of the project. [0:15:39, 0:15:41]: Or of the projects. [0:15:41, 0:15:48]: Um, this you've seen on the last couple of years. And again, as an annual update, it's being brought forward to you. [0:15:49, 0:15:52]: Uh, now for uh your review and approval. [0:15:52, 0:15:54]: It's part of the trans transmission. [0:15:55, 0:15:57]: to ARC and DCA. [0:15:57, 0:16:02]: Um, they will review it. If they sign off on it, they will send it back to us for. [0:16:02, 0:16:04]: An actual adoption. [0:16:05, 0:16:10]: You'll notice a couple of uh items there. And if I can share my screen for just a moment. [0:16:12, 0:16:15]: Mr. Bonds, if you would let me share my screen. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: Or Mayor Ford, I think you may be the host as well. [0:16:21, 0:16:22]: I just go and hit share screen. [0:16:25, 0:16:26]: Alright, there we go. [0:16:31, 0:16:35]: All right, I'll just uh briefly go over this item. As you can see, you all have this in your packet. [0:16:36, 0:16:51]: But for instance, there are a number of items on here that deal with uh def certain projects that we've been dealing with over the past couple of years. In particular, I'd mentioned the amphitheater, as you can see, in progress under construction, as well as the cultural arts center. [0:16:51, 0:16:53]: Uh there number seven item number seven. [0:16:54, 0:16:59]: Um at 14 million dollars. You'll see that was uh reflective of the previous approval. [0:16:59, 0:17:02]: Uh last month of the city council. [0:17:02, 0:17:07]: about a funding uh mechanism uh by which the uh cultural arts center would be funded. [0:17:08, 0:17:11]: Um and the actual dollar amount uh that was on there. [0:17:12, 0:17:15]: You'll see a number of other items uh that have been [0:17:15, 0:17:17]: In progress over the last [0:17:17, 0:17:20]: couple of years. Again, this is an update. [0:17:20, 0:17:23]: Of those items and um [0:17:23, 0:17:26]: Uh it's something that again is required by DCA. [0:17:26, 0:17:31]: Um we'll transmit this to um the Atlanta Regional Commission if you should approve it. [0:17:32, 0:17:35]: I would mention also that a number of these items are goals. [0:17:36, 0:17:40]: And things that the city hopes to accomplish over a period of time over the life of the comprehensive plan. [0:17:41, 0:17:42]: Um itself. [0:17:43, 0:17:46]: Um and again they are shown as updates. [0:17:46, 0:17:48]: Um every year to be [0:17:49, 0:17:51]: Um Atlanta Regional Commission and DCA. [0:17:54, 0:17:56]: Also, any questions for Mr. Knight at all? [0:17:57, 0:17:59]: Mr Member Protein, go ahead, please. [0:18:00, 0:18:18]: Thank you, sir. Uh Mr. Knight, I always like to take this opportunity to kind of review some of the projects that we're working on so the citizens kind of understand. Of course, we're informing uh the Atlanta Regional Commission because uh the city has a comprehensive plan now and we [0:18:18, 0:18:21]: План десь проєкті сау стратегічли. [0:18:21, 0:18:23]: Could you sort of talk about [0:18:23, 0:18:25]: А номер проєкта. [0:18:25, 0:18:27]: The amphitheater [0:18:27, 0:18:30]: The culture art center, the public works building. [0:18:30, 0:18:34]: All those projects that are key. [0:18:34, 0:18:42]: uh to where we're trying to go to the city. So the city addict actually know that they're coming, including, I guess if you would, uh also the um [0:18:42, 0:18:53]: the uh recreation center that we have uh under design uh as well is in design but it's still a project that we look forward to executing uh uh [0:18:54, 0:19:01]: Sure, I'll briefly go over those. Uh of course I'll start with the amphitheater since it is fully under construction right now, and then anybody who passes by City Hall can see. [0:19:02, 0:19:03]: The great progress that is made. [0:19:04, 0:19:09]: Um and also I would mention that we'll have some updates on the amphitheater at the next meeting. [0:19:09, 0:19:14]: Uh, related to the progress, uh, related to the cost, as someone mentioned earlier in public comment. [0:19:14, 0:19:22]: And related to the overall uh development of the amphitheater itself. Of course, the amphitheater was a part of an LCI Liverpool City's initiative. [0:19:22, 0:19:40]: Uh that was done uh several years ago in the city of Stockbridge. And due to the leadership of our current city council, we've been able to move that project forward and go vertical. It of course will serve as a catalyst to bring people downtown that will assist in revitalizing the downtown, which is part of the city's overall vision. [0:19:40, 0:19:41]: Uh for um [0:19:42, 0:19:43]: The uh the uh [0:19:44, 0:19:44]: B. [0:19:45, 0:19:48]: Development of our downtown core area. [0:19:48, 0:19:55]: And um the cultural arts center is also consistent with that. The cultural arts center location, of course, has been identified. [0:19:56, 0:19:59]: The conceptual plans that are in final stages include [0:19:59, 0:20:01]: A three hundred plus uh seat ballroom. [0:20:02, 0:20:05]: As well as uh over about a three hundred and fifteen seat. [0:20:06, 0:20:16]: theater, as well as other uh meeting rooms and uh museum, uh meeting rooms that would be conducive for ballet, culinary arts, uh, et cetera. [0:20:17, 0:20:23]: Also, uh the city is parking on uh working on its trail plan as well, of course, uh previously the last month. [0:20:24, 0:20:29]: City identified funds uh via Splost Five and and the bonding mechanism. [0:20:29, 0:20:31]: To be able to fund [0:20:31, 0:20:35]: Um all of these projects. And then lastly I would mention the uh [0:20:35, 0:20:36]: The senior and youth center. [0:20:37, 0:20:41]: Uh, that we have in concept stage right now, still working through concept stage. [0:20:42, 0:20:44]: That you the council have seen. [0:20:44, 0:20:58]: Um that calls for um uh a full uh gymnasium, uh basketball court, meeting rooms, uh swimming pool, indoor track, and other amenities that would go along with that, of course. [0:20:58, 0:21:03]: Uh that uh is an item that we'll continue to uh can keep in our [0:21:04, 0:21:11]: our view as we uh complete these other uh projects. And so all of these projects conjoined are intended to [0:21:11, 0:21:17]: Enhance the quality of life of uh Stockbridge uh citizens, residents, and those who visit the city. [0:21:17, 0:21:20]: To assist in economic development opportunities. [0:21:21, 0:21:23]: And to ensure that the city's vision [0:21:23, 0:21:28]: Of being the most progressive and business friendly city in Metro Atlanta. [0:21:28, 0:21:29]: is ultimately meant. [0:21:30, 0:21:33]: Well, if I could follow up with a follow up question, Mayor. [0:21:34, 0:21:34]: Right. [0:21:35, 0:21:38]: In terms of those projects and the planning process. [0:21:38, 0:21:41]: And the city having a overall comprehensive plan. [0:21:42, 0:21:46]: Uh, these things are d they don't just pop up. We have a solid plan. [0:21:46, 0:21:50]: That we're working on that uh we have charted out and that we submit. [0:21:50, 0:21:53]: to the Atlanta regional commission that everybody could take a look at. [0:21:54, 0:21:56]: And the citizens are always concerned about [0:21:57, 0:22:03]: the finances and and how does that look. And it the the the city's in a strong financial position. Is that correct? [0:22:06, 0:22:17]: I'll respond. Yes, the the city is in a very strong financial position. Um, obviously, a fund balance is very strong. As we continue to consider these projects and construct these projects. [0:22:17, 0:22:37]: Of course, there will be always the review by the relevant financial advisors for the council, for the citizens to be able to view, to ensure that we continue to be fiscally sound and how monies are expended, of course, leveraging other sources of revenue such as grant opportunities. [0:22:37, 0:22:39]: But as well as plus five. [0:22:39, 0:22:47]: Um, which was approved by the voters and uh accounts for an estimated twenty point twenty point five million dollars. [0:22:47, 0:22:50]: For the siti of Stockbridge and of course later this year. [0:22:50, 0:22:54]: I santicipated that there will be a T Splost, a transportation splast. [0:22:54, 0:22:57]: It will be on the ballot in November for voters to consider. [0:22:58, 0:22:58]: Thank you, sir. [0:23:00, 0:23:02]: Council, any other questions for Mr. Knight and all? [0:23:03, 0:23:03]: Anybody? [0:23:05, 0:23:08]: All right, seeing none. In that case, this is um [0:23:08, 0:23:09]: Public hearing. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: So I need to open it up for any public comment. So [0:23:12, 0:23:25]: I like to do that and are the uh anybody that has any any public out there has any comments uh in favor of this work plan, this short term work plan that we're going to send to the DCA. [0:23:26, 0:23:33]: I don't know if whether Vanessa or anybody else can tell me if there's anybody out there that would be four. I have not seen any. [0:23:33, 0:23:38]: Okay, anybody against? Uh I would imagine you probably don't see anybody there either, I'm assuming. [0:23:40, 0:23:49]: Nothing. No, sir. All right. So uh Mr. Williams opened for and against, no comments, so I will close it. [0:23:49, 0:23:50]: Okay. [0:23:50, 0:23:57]: Public hearing is now closed. All right. On that note, council, I need a motion to accept the work plan, please. [0:23:57, 0:24:04]: Okay Councilwoman Grant, thank you. Well you have a comment I move to accept the work plan. [0:24:04, 0:24:05]: Okay, good. Is there a second? [0:24:06, 0:24:07]: That's the point. [0:24:07, 0:24:08]: Also. [0:24:09, 0:24:10]: Mr. Thomas seconds that. [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Yes. [0:24:11, 0:24:13]: All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:24:15, 0:24:17]: All right, unanimous. Outstanding. Appreciate that. [0:24:18, 0:24:19]: New business. [0:24:19, 0:24:23]: Council consideration to approve a participation in the gray bar. [0:24:24, 0:24:25]: Was it Omni? [0:24:25, 0:24:27]: uh partners program. [0:24:28, 0:24:32]: Uh was O M I O M N N I A contract. [0:24:32, 0:24:39]: EV two twenty three seventy for installation of a new phone system via spectrum VOIP and amount of uh [0:24:39, 0:24:40]: Two thousand [0:24:41, 0:24:44]: Two hundred seven dollars and thirty seven cents per month. [0:24:44, 0:24:46]: Funding source information technology. [0:24:47, 0:24:49]: And it's presented by Mr. Knighton. [0:24:49, 0:24:51]: And Jonathan Van Horn. [0:24:51, 0:24:55]: In a lower Matwig, Madwig, I guess it is. All right. [0:24:56, 0:25:16]: All right, uh please go ahead. Yes, uh yeah, Mayor, thank you. Um this um item is something we're we're attempting to modernize and and progress in terms of technology or overall phone system for um our various uh staff members and offices, uh a voice operated uh internet system. [0:25:16, 0:25:27]: um that we are bringing forward. Ms. Holliday, myself, um, Mr. Wiggins have kind of worked on this um um item and uh tried to get it to a point where we could bring it to you. [0:25:27, 0:25:30]: Again, it's a matter of modernization and and attempting to [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: Enhanced our overall phone system. [0:25:34, 0:25:39]: Um I will defer to uh Mr. Uh Van Horn and Miss Mathwid. [0:25:39, 0:25:45]: I believe are on here uh to speak to the technical aspects of the overall. [0:25:45, 0:25:49]: uh proposal and how they would um enhance our systems. [0:25:50, 0:26:10]: Thank you very much. We appreciate your time. Um, again, I know you guys got a lot of things on your plate, but thanks for taking the time to hear us out. Um, we would propose a hosted system for the entire city, uh the five buildings that you have there, including the amphitheater. And basically, since it's hosted, everything's on our side. Only thing you guys are going to need are the IP phones. Uh, we'll come in and install everything. [0:26:10, 0:26:28]: course the system support, everything that's necessary will be handled on our end. And then of course, with it being a voice over IP solution, you guys do have the ability to leverage the cloud. And of course allow you guys transfer calls and every functionality you could want from a modern phone system. [0:26:28, 0:26:39]: So I know that uh Randy and Vanessa and and uh the rest of your team, we've been kind of conversing for the last few months and seemed like it's a good fit, but we went to bring it to the board and see what questions you had and see what we can do to. [0:26:40, 0:26:41]: Get our system into your city there. [0:26:43, 0:26:43]: Okay. [0:26:44, 0:26:45]: Um [0:26:45, 0:27:02]: Great. You said five you said five buildings. I'm assuming that obviously if if we want to expand with more buildings, it can easily be accessible to expand to these buildings in the uh in the future. Absolutely, sir. We'd love to hear that. Yes, sir. As you guys grow, we'll grow with you as well. [0:27:02, 0:27:02]: Okay. [0:27:03, 0:27:09]: All right. Let me make make sure. I'm sorry. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead, Mr. Knight. I'm sorry, Mary. Yeah, I don't I want to make sure though when we talk about [0:27:10, 0:27:17]: The monthly cost, there's also an an overall cost in terms of equipment. So we need to make sure that council understands what that overall cost is going to be. [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: Yeah. [0:27:20, 0:27:21]: I apologize, didn't mean to cut you off there, Mayor. [0:27:21, 0:27:37]: I was saying but then what is that overall uh overall cost? Great question. Uh that$2,000 on a monthly basis includes all of your expenses. Uh that is for the system support installation, unlimited training, all of the equipment itself. Uh it's all embodied into that monthly recurring charge. [0:27:39, 0:27:39]: Okay. [0:27:40, 0:27:40]: All right. [0:27:41, 0:27:43]: Counsel, any questions you may have? [0:27:43, 0:27:44]: For Mr. Van Horn. [0:27:44, 0:27:46]: Uh Map Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [0:27:46, 0:27:55]: Uh yes, sir. Uh talk about uh the system that you're installing and the advancements versus uh the the system that you're replacing. [0:27:56, 0:28:16]: Great question. Um, so with us, it is fully hosted. So again, nothing's on your side but the phones. But every functionality comes at no additional cost. I'm sure you guys have probably seen many phone systems, and as they may give you a standard setup as your needs change, the price changes. With us, it's all included. Um, so you know, of course, the ability to transfer costs. [0:28:16, 0:28:29]: calls, monitor calls, record conversations. Everyone has their own voicemail. Everyone has their own two to six digit extension for transferring throughout the city there. Of course we have mobile [0:28:30, 0:28:40]: So everyone can download the app, calls from the app, it'll mask your cell phone number. It looks like you're calling right from the office, send and receive text messages. You can have a soft phone right on your desktop or your laptop. They're about [0:28:40, 0:28:48]: About a hundred different features that come at no additional cost. And not to say you'll use them all, but as your needs change, we'll change with you without that price changing as well. [0:28:49, 0:28:51]: Okay, so when Steph is working off site. [0:28:52, 0:28:55]: Or what have you, those phone calls will we will be able to roll over. [0:28:56, 0:29:00]: uh to them and they will be able to operate, especially in this covet environment. [0:29:00, 0:29:01]: As if they're in the office. [0:29:02, 0:29:22]: Yes, sir. You need to join our team because that's exactly what we sell on. Um, the fact that right now no one can be in the office, obviously, you guys have an important job to do and you're all meeting here. You guys have the ability to take our phones anywhere. Take it to your house, plug it into your home internet, I call it your office, it'll ring your house. Just like you're in now in the building, transfer calls from one place to the next. Uh Laura and I, we're on the exact same system. [0:29:22, 0:29:30]: She's in Texas. She could hit my extension, my poner ring, just like I'm sitting right next to her. Every one of these functionalities are things you guys can take advantage of as well. [0:29:31, 0:29:38]: Okay. And uh Mr. Knight, maybe you can answer this question. So uh in terms of us moving forward with the amphitheater. [0:29:39, 0:29:43]: And the YMAX and uh uh being available and that type of thing. [0:29:43, 0:29:45]: Does this involve that or no? [0:29:45, 0:29:52]: No, I don't think this involves that. We've had conversations with our internet or our IT provider, Interdev, I'm sorry. [0:29:52, 0:29:56]: About those aspects of the amphitheater. [0:29:57, 0:30:02]: This would this would essentially strictly be dealing with the phone systems, if I understand your correct question correctly. [0:30:03, 0:30:04]: Yes, that's it. Uh huh. [0:30:05, 0:30:05]: Thank you. [0:30:06, 0:30:07]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [0:30:08, 0:30:09]: Thank you. [0:30:09, 0:30:17]: Um, Mr. Knighton, have we had some issues with our phone system? I'm trying to figure out is this a uh is this cost efficient? [0:30:17, 0:30:18]: What [0:30:18, 0:30:32]: Why today? What what's going on? I haven't received any notice about it. So I just want to know get a heads up on Sure. Sure. Our phone system has been in the current phone system and some one of the other staff members can help me, but certainly since I've been there and I believe beyond that. [0:30:33, 0:30:39]: Uh before that. So it's been in several years, the current system that we have or phone apparatus that we have. [0:30:40, 0:30:46]: And this would allow us to move to a more modernized system with the additional features that Mr. Van Horn. [0:30:46, 0:30:47]: had mentioned before. [0:30:48, 0:30:52]: Um, we do think it will be uh cost efficient. I mean, obviously we we [0:30:52, 0:30:57]: Account for that in our current budget. And John, if John may be able to speak to it more specifically. [0:30:58, 0:31:01]: in terms of the overall cost as related to our our current budget. [0:31:02, 0:31:04]: But we would see this as um a [0:31:06, 0:31:20]: uh enhancement to what we're doing now and a modernization of our our um existing phone system and allow us to grow as Mr. Van Horn said, we'll be able to grow the system as the staff needs grow and also [0:31:20, 0:31:23]: with the amphitheater at well as well in that system. [0:31:24, 0:31:31]: And so um this we think is a more cost efficient way to go than continuing with the current systems that we currently have. [0:31:33, 0:31:40]: All right. And Mr. Wiggins, then can you give us the budget? Is it within our budget that we already have set or what's the difference? [0:31:41, 0:31:43]: It is within our budget right now. [0:31:44, 0:31:49]: We pay we pay three vendors. We pay Airspring about fifty seven thousand dollars. [0:31:50, 0:32:02]: a year. Uh that is for our long distance calling. We pay Milner our support service maintenance for about 5,000, about 5200 [0:32:02, 0:32:03]: A year. [0:32:04, 0:32:07]: And then the last thing we pay ATT. [0:32:07, 0:32:14]: Club service for all the lines. I think back in two thousand thirteen, two thousand twelve, two thousand thirteen. [0:32:15, 0:32:21]: We paid for the phones that we have on our desk right now. They're basic right now obsolete. [0:32:22, 0:32:42]: Uh I think with this system here, by going to the cloud, we will be getting new phones. We will be able to uh got a lot of amenities that comes with it. Um I think Mr. Horn, you know, he can probably explain more about uh we'll be able to have meetings like this on a regular basis. [0:32:42, 0:32:42]: Yeah. [0:32:43, 0:32:45]: You know, it enhances um [0:32:45, 0:32:50]: uh Zoom meeting capability. We also it would help with that facts because we pay [0:32:51, 0:32:54]: We pay about hundred seventy two dollars. [0:32:54, 0:32:58]: monthly for fast and that this right here will take care of that. [0:32:58, 0:33:11]: So um we have a number of things that once this system is in place, everything's going into the cloud, we will get with our IT department and see how we can uh reduce some of the other costs that we are. [0:33:11, 0:33:24]: occurring uh you know occurring um uh monthly because thirty one thousand plus fifty seven thousand plus fifty two hundred, you know, we you know we get this system and we can save us some money. [0:33:25, 0:33:25]: So [0:33:27, 0:33:28]: Thank you so much. [0:33:28, 0:33:29]: Mm-hmm. [0:33:30, 0:33:32]: All right, council. Any other questions? Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:33:35, 0:33:38]: Wanted to ask. Um so [0:33:39, 0:33:43]: This requires us to enter into an agreement. [0:33:44, 0:33:45]: With this company? [0:33:47, 0:33:49]: Do you have to sign a contract with them? [0:33:51, 0:34:11]: Mr. Mayor, uh yes, it's the this proposal came unsolicited, um, but but it's proposed that the we use a uh cooperative agreement uh uh through their uh partner organization, Gray Bar. Um they have a cooperative agreement that originated out of Kansas City. [0:34:11, 0:34:19]: And so it's proposed that that be the a the vehicle uh through which we procure these phones. [0:34:19, 0:34:21]: Okay, I understand that. [0:34:21, 0:34:23]: Um so with the [0:34:23, 0:34:27]: Other phones that are net will will be obsolete. [0:34:28, 0:34:33]: Are we able to get credit for those? I mean, what's gonna happen to those phones? [0:34:36, 0:34:39]: I'm not sure about getting credit, but I know what what we [0:34:39, 0:34:39]: Mm. [0:34:40, 0:34:55]: We'll um inventory them and then they'll probably be added to the Gov Deal uh list and see if we can put it out there and see if we can get something back on um uh through Gov Deal. But as far as getting a credit um for those phones. [0:34:55, 0:35:01]: Uh I think Mr Horn then we'll probably have to take a look at him. I I don't I I I'm I'm not sure about it as far as the credit. [0:35:02, 0:35:22]: Well, great question. Um, so I know we don't have any kind of platform to take your your your older equipment, but a part of our services would bring in the brand new phones at no additional cost. Now again, I know you maybe have a few different avenues that maybe you could uh do something with those phones there. We wouldn't have a market for them, um, but it would still reduce your monthly cost and increase your [0:35:22, 0:35:26]: functionalities, brand new phones for everyone that we come in and install. [0:35:26, 0:35:27]: Pre charge. [0:35:27, 0:35:29]: Okay, thank you. [0:35:30, 0:35:32]: Anybody else? [0:35:32, 0:35:33]: And Miss Scant, go ahead, please. [0:35:34, 0:35:37]: Mayor, I would just like to make a motion that we approve this. [0:35:38, 0:35:41]: Um, it's been stated that it's cost efficient. It'll bring us up to date. [0:35:42, 0:35:49]: Um, that our phones are now obsolete and that we are actually within budget. Sounds like a plan. [0:35:50, 0:35:52]: All right. Is there that's a motion, is there a second? [0:35:54, 0:35:57]: Miss Barber seconds that motion. Any further discussion? [0:35:58, 0:36:00]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [0:36:01, 0:36:15]: Unanimous decision. Um, I just want to ask uh Laura, did you have anything you wanted to add? We've all we just voted at, but I didn't you didn't say anything. I didn't know if you needed I was just here to support Jay in this whole conversation in case there was any questions that I needed to answer, but [0:36:15, 0:36:21]: Everything everything and we provide all documentation for you guys earlier and had a call, so I think we're good to go. [0:36:22, 0:36:27]: Appreciate it. You're in Texas. So out of curiosity, Jay, where are you located? I am in Lilburn, Georgia. [0:36:28, 0:36:37]: Okay. Good deal. All right. Fantastic. Well, you're welcome to stay as long as you like. We're gonna move on to our next thing. Okay. Next thank you for having us. Thank you. Thank you so much, guys. Okay. [0:36:38, 0:36:48]: Uh council consideration to approve Falcon Design Consultants Task Order Number 2021.01 to review the amphitheater master plan. [0:36:49, 0:36:52]: For rye sharing area in amount of uh fifteen hundred dollars. [0:36:53, 0:36:56]: A funding source amphitheater project. Mr. Knighton, please. [0:36:57, 0:37:03]: Uh yes, Mr. Ford. I I simply mentioned uh we had some mode of a discussion about this at a previous meeting. [0:37:04, 0:37:07]: Related to a ride sharing location for [0:37:07, 0:37:12]: The amphitheater project and as well. [0:37:12, 0:37:16]: And the task order, um, while it is within my authority to approve. [0:37:17, 0:37:27]: Wanted to bring it back uh to you just as a matter of information and discussion of the overall empathy of the project. What we're attempting to do here um and I think [0:37:27, 0:37:28]: Um [0:37:28, 0:37:29]: Uh [0:37:30, 0:37:40]: Uh Councilman Tom Thomas had also uh mentioned this uh previously as well. And that's what generated, I believe, the discussion. And so had further discussions with Falcon Design. [0:37:40, 0:37:47]: And um uh discussed uh the prospect of them reviewing all of the amphitheater plans, the [0:37:48, 0:38:07]: Amphitheater proper itself, the vertical construction area, the parking areas, the road improvement areas for Lee Street and also East Atlanta. Look at the entire campus to determine the most appropriate location for a ride-sharing location for the amphitheater. Obviously, for the 3200 plus seat amphitheater project. [0:38:08, 0:38:12]: Um, there will be a number of people who will be visiting the location on a regular basis. [0:38:13, 0:38:17]: And so uh in this day and age, as you know, uh people [0:38:17, 0:38:21]: I tend to use ride sharing via via various forms. [0:38:21, 0:38:24]: To be able to access their entertainment venues. [0:38:25, 0:38:33]: And so in order to reduce the amount of parking, reduce the congestion, all of those things, we wanted to and for the customer service experience. [0:38:33, 0:38:38]: Wanted to be able to uh provide a rideshare location that's appropriate on the amphitheater. [0:38:38, 0:38:46]: uh campus itself. This would allow faculty design. They would go through the all of the plans, as I said, the parking areas, the the the roadway. [0:38:46, 0:38:51]: uh improvements as well, determine the uh best location for uh the ride share. [0:38:51, 0:38:52]: Um [0:38:52, 0:38:52]: Uh [0:38:52, 0:38:54]: venue to take place. [0:38:55, 0:38:58]: Okay. Um uh Thomas, can I say? [0:38:58, 0:38:59]: Thank you. [0:39:00, 0:39:07]: Mr. Nine, I'd like to just thank you for honoring my request to bring this back um for the council. [0:39:07, 0:39:12]: um to add the ride sharing to the uh amphitheater master plan. [0:39:13, 0:39:16]: Uh as you mentioned earlier, you know, this amenity [0:39:16, 0:39:19]: uh to the landscape is is forward thinking. [0:39:20, 0:39:24]: Um, we know that parking and traffic is going to be an issue. [0:39:24, 0:39:26]: And um [0:39:26, 0:39:33]: I I think this give patrons uh an alternate uh means of um enjoying. [0:39:33, 0:39:35]: What we have to offer. [0:39:35, 0:39:39]: Um and I would just say that citizens that that may live one [0:39:40, 0:39:41]: То три майз авиа. [0:39:42, 0:39:45]: uh may not just want to drive anyway. [0:39:46, 0:39:55]: And so um Uber, Lyft, and other means of transportation will probably be, you know, their means of of traveling. [0:39:55, 0:39:58]: And let me just add, um [0:39:59, 0:40:04]: I've gotten into the new uh federal administration. [0:40:05, 0:40:06]: uh climate [0:40:07, 0:40:08]: Um [0:40:09, 0:40:10]: Environmental issue. [0:40:11, 0:40:13]: And something that they are proposing. [0:40:14, 0:40:17]: Ізлиминет [0:40:17, 0:40:19]: Uh combustion [0:40:20, 0:40:22]: Вігаколс а [0:40:22, 0:40:25]: And you know, going toward uh twenty thirty. [0:40:26, 0:40:29]: Um GM Ford [0:40:29, 0:40:31]: Um, all of the labor unions. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: Everyone is involved. [0:40:34, 0:40:36]: I I don't know um [0:40:36, 0:40:39]: If it's going to be fulfilled, but i if it does [0:40:40, 0:40:47]: Um, you know, I'm I'm a little concerned about the environment, you know, the the greenhouse gases and all that kind of thing. So [0:40:47, 0:41:06]: You know, this whole thing of getting cars um, you know, off the street, I think this plays into it. And I just want to just add that caveat to it. Um, you know, we just need to be a little conscious of um, you know, getting some of these cars off the road. And I think this is going to just in the immediate future. [0:41:06, 0:41:09]: I I think this is going to lend itself to that. [0:41:09, 0:41:11]: We know that traffic. [0:41:12, 0:41:12]: Parking. [0:41:13, 0:41:18]: it's gonna be a problem. So if we can add this amenity to this, I think it's gonna help that. [0:41:18, 0:41:23]: So again, Mr. Knight, I just want to thank you for for bringing that. And I know it probably other discussion. [0:41:23, 0:41:26]: But I will go forward in uh motion. [0:41:27, 0:41:38]: uh to for council to direct the city manager to to move forward with this under his authority, under his financial authority uh to move forward with this. [0:41:39, 0:41:40]: Second. [0:41:40, 0:41:41]: Hi. [0:41:41, 0:41:45]: Mr. Alexander, mayor pretend Alexander second that. Any further discussion? [0:41:46, 0:41:46]: Yeah, uh I do. [0:41:47, 0:41:48]: Okay, we're right here, please. [0:41:48, 0:41:51]: I I'd just like to compliment uh councilman Thomas. [0:41:51, 0:41:54]: You know, this is what makes a great team. [0:41:54, 0:41:57]: When you have people that bring something to the table. [0:41:58, 0:42:00]: You know, since I've been serving with him. [0:42:01, 0:42:11]: I have such a such a great respect for him because he he brings something valuable to the table in almost every conversation that we have. [0:42:11, 0:42:21]: And it's so important that when you're occupying this seat, that you bring something forward and that you bring something meaningful to the city that you represent. [0:42:21, 0:42:26]: So when when when when when project big projects like this take place [0:42:26, 0:42:33]: You need everybody thinking about what's going on. And as Mr. Knighton said, this is a forward thinking project. [0:42:33, 0:42:49]: What a missed opportunity this would have been had we not included Rod Sharon. So I I I salute him for bringing this to the table. And this is the kind of leadership that you need where people bring a lunch pail to the um [0:42:50, 0:42:51]: to the table every time. [0:42:52, 0:42:54]: And that they bring something concrete. [0:42:54, 0:42:58]: that our citizens can look forward to in the future. So thank you, sir. [0:42:59, 0:43:01]: All right, thank you. Mr. Bellot, please go ahead. [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: Yeah, I guess my question for Mr. Knight, Mr. Knight, do we have an update [0:43:06, 0:43:11]: As of yet are the expenses of the amphitheater and what the what would be the additional cost for the rap share. [0:43:13, 0:43:25]: Sure. I'd I answer the second question first. Um obviously we need to identify the location of rides here, so I couldn't tell you what that would be. I would not think that that would be an exorbitant cost because it would be a part of the existing footprint. [0:43:25, 0:43:30]: maybe even part of the parking area existing asphalt there. So I wouldn't think that would be a major cost. [0:43:30, 0:43:36]: To to your first question, major question with respect to updated amphitheater next week, or I'm sorry, next meeting. [0:43:37, 0:43:43]: On February eighth, as I've I've mentioned previously, we will have a full update on the amphitheater, including [0:43:43, 0:43:47]: uh some additional costs uh that we've identified to ensure the project stays on [0:43:48, 0:43:48]: Trek. [0:43:49, 0:43:54]: And the project meets the expectations of the council. We will have our financial advisor here. [0:43:54, 0:43:58]: We'll also have members of the construction team here to speak specifically. [0:43:59, 0:44:01]: Uh, to where we are with the amphitheater project. [0:44:01, 0:44:02]: and related costs. [0:44:03, 0:44:05]: Ажіно, мантрсо аго. [0:44:06, 0:44:08]: The council approved a a [0:44:08, 0:44:10]: bonding scenario. [0:44:11, 0:44:12]: Financial advisor. [0:44:12, 0:44:16]: Uh we'll come back and we will lay out specifically and ask you to approve. [0:44:17, 0:44:19]: Um them to go out to market. [0:44:19, 0:44:22]: And to actually put that out. [0:44:22, 0:44:27]: to i to issue the bonds for the project. So you have a full scale update uh the next meeting. [0:44:28, 0:44:31]: regarding the entire amphitheater project and financial costs associated with it. [0:44:34, 0:44:45]: Any other questions or discussion for uh well for Mr. I say Mr. anybody for Mr. Thomas, Mr. Knighton. Okay, the motion is made and seconded. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:44:46, 0:44:52]: Fantastic, unanimous decision. Outstanding. What we had next uh was the add-on and deals with the moratorium. [0:44:53, 0:45:02]: And reference to a development dealing with pines if I got it right. And um, I would think uh Mr. Williams, how about you starting this off? [0:45:06, 0:45:07]: Mister Mayor um [0:45:07, 0:45:15]: It has been proposed that the city adopt a moratorium on the acceptance of any applications of any kind. [0:45:15, 0:45:35]: for uh any uh developments involving residential rental properties. So that would include uh building permits, land land disturbance permits, anything of that type. And this is in response to the uh issue raised at the beginning of the meeting by [0:45:35, 0:45:38]: the mayor Pro Tem, um there there's been a [0:45:39, 0:45:48]: uh a development in the city uh that has been acquired or most of the remaining lots of if if not all the remaining lots have been [0:45:48, 0:46:02]: acquired um for the purpose of all the those houses, single family homes to be uh built and uh made available for rent as opposed to purchase and um for owner occupation. [0:46:03, 0:46:08]: Um and so the the resolution before you does essentially that for a period [0:46:08, 0:46:14]: Of a hundred and eighty days to allow staff um to review the matter and to [0:46:14, 0:46:18]: Address uh how to uh ensure that [0:46:18, 0:46:25]: Um th this isn't uh doesn't become you know prevalent throughout the entire city and and and [0:46:25, 0:46:32]: you know, come to terms with, you know, a way of addressing it. And so, um I see Mayor Pro Tem would like to speak. [0:46:33, 0:46:38]: Well yeah, I'm gonna I'll send it to Mayor Pro Tem. I'm gonna get you in a second, Ms. Cant. Mayor Protam, go ahead, please. [0:46:38, 0:46:42]: Yes, uh you know, this came to my attention as I was [0:46:42, 0:46:43]: Uh, perus in the city. [0:46:44, 0:46:49]: And I know that this council uh approved the Pine View neighborhood for approval. [0:46:50, 0:46:58]: Uh a part of what it what I want what I always do is to go back and see what the result are results are of the decisions that we made. [0:46:59, 0:47:00]: Let let me make this clear. [0:47:01, 0:47:05]: The majority of this neighborhood still remains empty. [0:47:06, 0:47:12]: And not only did this developer, it seems, seek to uh deceive us. [0:47:12, 0:47:19]: They originally had a sign out there for Pine View Subdivision that said two hundred thousand dollars and above. [0:47:20, 0:47:22]: That sign was changed. [0:47:22, 0:47:23]: It says now. [0:47:24, 0:47:26]: Rick new homes. [0:47:26, 0:47:29]: Sixteen hundred dollars a month. [0:47:29, 0:47:35]: There are at least thirty to thirty five lots that haven't even been touched. [0:47:35, 0:47:38]: So they bought all of the remaining lats. [0:47:38, 0:47:52]: Most of the homes in the neighborhood are unoccupied and there's no for sale signs anywhere. All of the homes in this whole subdivision, it appears, would be rentals. [0:47:53, 0:47:54]: This is [0:47:55, 0:48:00]: Outrageous in every single way. No one on this council. [0:48:01, 0:48:17]: Would have put an apartment complex out there on Stagecoach Road next to Pine Grove Subdivision. None of us would have voted for that. I know every person on this council and all of us voted for a single family residential community. [0:48:18, 0:48:20]: I ask all the citizens out there to understand. [0:48:21, 0:48:25]: If you woke up tomorrow and every one of your neighbors was a renter. [0:48:26, 0:48:29]: That's what if anybody bought into this neighborhood. [0:48:30, 0:48:38]: Which some people did buy their homes at the at the initial front of this neighborhood. If you bought a home at the front of the neighborhood, maybe the first 10. [0:48:38, 0:48:42]: And the rest of the homes are now rentals. [0:48:43, 0:49:03]: How would you feel about your decision? You would feel deceived moving into that neighborhood, thinking that you were gonna be moving into a neighborhood. So basically, what they did was they put a single-family, detached apartment complex out on Stagecoach Road to usurp the rules. [0:49:03, 0:49:09]: which which this council would have never approved any rental subdivision out there. [0:49:09, 0:49:17]: And we want to do something about it and send this clear message and to wake up all of the uh because if it's happened here. [0:49:18, 0:49:26]: It could happen all around Henry County and all around Georgia or anywhere. And people need to wake up. I never even dreamed. [0:49:27, 0:49:36]: That any investor would buy out an entire new construction subdivision when most of the homes were still being. [0:49:36, 0:49:36]: Uh [0:49:37, 0:49:37]: Market it. [0:49:38, 0:49:43]: They bought all the homes and they're gonna rent them all out if we don't stop them. Thank you. [0:49:44, 0:49:46]: Um, Councilwoman Gantt, go ahead, please. [0:49:47, 0:49:48]: Thank you. [0:49:48, 0:49:49]: Um [0:49:49, 0:49:53]: I concur with um Mayor Pro Tem. I think that [0:49:54, 0:49:56]: Um, you know, it was a slap in the face. [0:49:57, 0:50:00]: Uh, they came to us on several occasions. [0:50:00, 0:50:10]: I do know for a fact and I hope that Henry County is alert. Um the state of Georgia is alert. There are neighborhoods all over that are being bought up. [0:50:10, 0:50:25]: for rental property homes only because there are moratoriums on apartment complexes. That's happening. It's not a what if is happening. It's actually happening. And so we do have to put some measurements in place. Um I know this is a temporary [0:50:26, 0:50:42]: fix on that. I just don't want I want to make sure that we are clear that that does not affect our residential homes from being built with subdivisions. We've got to find a you know we don't want to give a bad message out there to our builders, our developers. [0:50:43, 0:50:46]: But this is going on and it was wrong. [0:50:46, 0:50:48]: And for that builder, they're wrong. [0:50:49, 0:50:59]: And so I have a problem with that. I have a a big problem with the way that would affect our community in general for an entire neighborhood to be rented out. [0:50:59, 0:51:06]: Um and w it wasn't disclosed. And so we really need to sit down and see what we can do about that. [0:51:08, 0:51:10]: Councilwoman uh Councilman Thomas, I'm sorry. Go ahead, please. [0:51:11, 0:51:12]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:51:12, 0:51:18]: Um I I think we need to address this in our developing uh UDC. [0:51:18, 0:51:22]: So Mr. Williams and Mr. Knight and [0:51:22, 0:51:23]: Uh [0:51:23, 0:51:27]: Could you add some light to how we can address this in the um [0:51:28, 0:51:31]: And our unified development code that we're working on presently. [0:51:34, 0:51:40]: Yes, uh Council Councilman Thomas, I think that um that is a mechanism by which we can address this issue and other issues. [0:51:40, 0:51:54]: uh that council, some of which the council has attempted to address before with respect to small box retail, those types of things. And I just mentioned that the a UDC is a mechanism by which you can address some of these development issues and development standards. [0:51:54, 0:51:57]: Obviously we're going through that process now and we'll be engaging [0:51:57, 0:52:06]: uh the public very, very soon. In fact, we have a tentative date with uh the consultant working on that project, which we'll publicize here. I need to obviously communicate that to [0:52:07, 0:52:25]: uh the council as well and the on the uh opportunity for the public to be uh able to provide input into the unified development code process as we go through it. But that is a mechanism of course that will deal with development standards, deal with um uh zoning code issues, obviously deal with signage, but also deal with [0:52:26, 0:52:29]: The types of development um that you envision. [0:52:30, 0:52:34]: For the city in terms of the actual development standards. [0:52:34, 0:52:39]: And I think we need to look very, very carefully at as this UDC is crafted. [0:52:39, 0:52:48]: Of what measures need to be in place to ensure that development occurs in the manner and in the vision that the council would like to see. [0:52:50, 0:52:50]: Thank you. [0:52:52, 0:52:53]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:52:59, 0:53:02]: Mr. Williams, or maybe Mr. Knighton, you can answer this too. [0:53:03, 0:53:07]: So this development was approved as a single family detached homes. [0:53:08, 0:53:10]: Um I'm still kind of [0:53:10, 0:53:12]: baffled as to [0:53:13, 0:53:14]: How? [0:53:14, 0:53:15]: This developer [0:53:16, 0:53:17]: was able to circumvent. [0:53:18, 0:53:18]: Um [0:53:19, 0:53:20]: The agreement. [0:53:21, 0:53:21]: Um [0:53:22, 0:53:23]: With the city. [0:53:23, 0:53:27]: What we approved was single family detached homes. [0:53:28, 0:53:28]: To be so [0:53:30, 0:53:30]: Owners. Right. [0:53:31, 0:53:40]: Right. And I'll I'll let Mike uh weigh in on this too. With when when the zoning approval was done and typically in many cases when the zoning approvals are done [0:53:40, 0:53:45]: and approved, they're approved on development standards itself. For instance, just as you mentioned, [0:53:46, 0:53:47]: single family homes. [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: Вчар бин бил, вчар фамилий хомс. [0:53:52, 0:53:55]: Issue is that there was not a mechanism in place. [0:53:56, 0:54:00]: Um, seemingly to deal with whether it was owner occupied. [0:54:00, 0:54:03]: versus rental renter occupied. [0:54:03, 0:54:06]: And now what we're seeing now is this this [0:54:06, 0:54:07]: This proposed [0:54:08, 0:54:21]: renter occupied situation versus owner occupied situation. And I think that's what part of this moratorium is to address or to hold still until we address it in a more formal manner through some type of regulatory mechanism. [0:54:22, 0:54:26]: Um one another follow-up question. So um [0:54:26, 0:54:32]: This well, whoever this builder is, he still has to come to the city for [0:54:32, 0:54:34]: Um his permits. [0:54:34, 0:54:36]: Or building, correct? [0:54:37, 0:54:38]: Or will he not? [0:54:38, 0:54:40]: You well yeah, for [0:54:40, 0:54:40]: You know [0:54:41, 0:54:41]: So [0:54:42, 0:54:56]: Any future progress in the development, they would require, you know, we would require additional permitting for, you know, every step in the process. And this moratorium puts a halt to that until we can get a handle on this. [0:54:56, 0:54:57]: Okay. [0:54:57, 0:54:58]: Thank you. [0:55:00, 0:55:05]: I would ask uh councilman Blount, everybody spoke but you, sir. You have anything you need to add or questions or uh concerns you may have. [0:55:06, 0:55:12]: I think everybody's kinda hitting on it, you know, we're all hitting on the same gears, uh, with this situation. [0:55:13, 0:55:17]: Uh I would I would concur that it is something that we was kind of blindsided with. [0:55:18, 0:55:19]: Uh when you when you [0:55:20, 0:55:37]: don't think that you have to have specifics in a development agreement that's coming in as as as uh when you're building new homes, specifics like sp homes for sale versus home for for rent. Then the assumption that was in the contract was they were going to be for sale. [0:55:37, 0:55:40]: But uh I think that that's where we was um [0:55:40, 0:55:45]: kind of caught off guard that we didn't have those specific mechanism uh mechanism in the uh [0:55:46, 0:55:57]: in the agreement for uh showing uh prior to uh approving. And I think that that's where this council and this city itself uh found ourselves being um [0:55:58, 0:56:00]: Um, Duke, if you will. [0:56:01, 0:56:02]: Right. [0:56:02, 0:56:07]: Is there a motion uh to accept uh or to approve this moratorium? [0:56:07, 0:56:10]: Uh may I have can I ask you. [0:56:11, 0:56:17]: How much development as far as that they want to develop, what stage are they at and how much more development is needed though? [0:56:19, 0:56:20]: Does anyone know that? [0:56:20, 0:56:28]: Uh I sorry, excuse me. I could answer that. I went over there today. They still have maybe about thirty to thirty-five lots that they've not even touched. [0:56:28, 0:56:31]: And then the houses that they finished they got about [0:56:31, 0:56:35]: Maybe twenty five or thirty houses standing that nobody's living in. [0:56:36, 0:56:36]: So [0:56:36, 0:56:41]: But there's a lot left to be done. So I would hope that we withhold withhold [0:56:42, 0:56:47]: uh what what we what what we could about sub um uh letting them have any more new [0:56:48, 0:56:50]: building permits are actually allowing them to build. [0:56:51, 0:56:54]: Without some type of uh resolution to this. [0:56:54, 0:57:00]: Well then my question is uh for the overall development, how many homes was it total to any does anyone know that? [0:57:01, 0:57:03]: We thought it was about seventy five. [0:57:04, 0:57:05]: That's what I thought. [0:57:05, 0:57:10]: But so they're basically uh I think it was about seven right about round halfway finished. [0:57:11, 0:57:13]: But the amount of homes if it's seventy five is [0:57:14, 0:57:19]: Um and I'm yeah, I'm trying to do that from memory. So I yeah, I think it was about seventy five. [0:57:19, 0:57:39]: Yeah, and then they changed the sign in the neighborhood uh uh some time ago, I guess, to say that they were doing all rentals. So many of those homes had not even been started when they started, when they put changed the sign to 1600. I'm just uh outdone by a new subdivision having a sign that says sixteen hundred rental. [0:57:39, 0:57:43]: a new home that ain't even been built yet for sixteen hundred dollars. [0:57:45, 0:57:47]: All right. Uh Councilwoman Gann, go ahead, please. [0:57:48, 0:57:50]: Thank you. Um, before we vote on this and [0:57:50, 0:57:53]: And again, Mayor Pretenta uh Alexander. [0:57:54, 0:57:57]: That's a new trend that's going on. [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: I know that for a fact. [0:57:59, 0:58:02]: There have been, I know, at least four subdivisions like that. [0:58:02, 0:58:05]: And not in Stockbridge. [0:58:05, 0:58:13]: But throughout Georgia. And so it's something that we need to go ahead and put a stop to, whichever way we can do it. And my question to [0:58:13, 0:58:14]: Attorney Williams is [0:58:15, 0:58:17]: Based off of this resolution that you have here. [0:58:18, 0:58:26]: Will that prevent other home builders, other developers from being able to come and get permits to build that are being [0:58:26, 0:58:30]: w that are acting in good faith because clearly this developer [0:58:30, 0:58:31]: did not act in good faith. [0:58:32, 0:58:42]: Oh the the moratorium applies citywide and and it refers to buildings intended for residential rental purposes. [0:58:43, 0:58:44]: So [0:58:44, 0:59:04]: Um, you know, that it's it's a a bit of an interpretation if if a builder in a different part of the city comes in for a permit to finish their house or or whatever, um, you know, we we would have to uh they would have to make an affirmative statement that this is intended for sale to owner for. [0:59:04, 0:59:08]: or owner occupation and then we could process that. [0:59:11, 0:59:11]: Okay. [0:59:12, 0:59:14]: Mira Pro Tem Alexander. [0:59:14, 0:59:21]: Yes, sir. I want to go ahead and uh make a motion to move forward uh with this uh moratorium as recommended. [0:59:22, 0:59:24]: To uh cease this issue in the city. [0:59:24, 0:59:24]: Fantastic. [0:59:25, 0:59:26]: Ms. Gan second then. [0:59:27, 0:59:28]: All favor, please indicate. [0:59:30, 0:59:32]: Okay, unanimous decision. Fantastic. Thank you. [0:59:33, 0:59:34]: Mayor, if you will. [0:59:34, 0:59:35]: Yes, sir. [0:59:35, 0:59:38]: Mr. Williams, if you uh this [0:59:38, 0:59:50]: So we will have to have specific language now that we didn't have with this developer, with with developers going forward. They will have to specifically say. [0:59:50, 1:00:08]: for for sale ownership occupancy or something in that reference. Is that what you're saying? So f yeah, for any other um developer coming in with seeking permits, uh they we would have to prepare essentially an affidavit that they would submit along with their [1:00:09, 1:00:13]: application saying this is being built for owner occupation. [1:00:14, 1:00:14]: Yeah. [1:00:16, 1:00:18]: For all new residential, new residential. [1:00:19, 1:00:20]: Yeah. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: Ms. Barber, please. Go ahead. [1:00:25, 1:00:26]: Really quick. [1:00:26, 1:00:32]: Mr. Williams, can you tell me or can you explain fee simple? [1:00:33, 1:00:36]: Or fee simple absolute. I'm not in real estate, but [1:00:36, 1:00:37]: That was a term. [1:00:38, 1:00:39]: that I know [1:00:39, 1:00:40]: Um [1:00:40, 1:00:45]: we may need to include that sort of language or remove that kind of language. [1:00:46, 1:01:06]: Oh, I mean that that's just kind of an old school legal term which we still use in real estate, basically saying you own everything, that if the the the property simply you own the whole thing. Um whereas you know if if you rent then you you you have a property interest but it's only a rental interest. [1:01:06, 1:01:21]: interests um uh the estate for years or a useful product, but it you don't own it fee simple. That that's that's the distinction. Um having said that, the landlord always has a fee simple ownership interest. [1:01:21, 1:01:28]: Um so long as they own the property. Um, but if it's owner occup but but they're that's where you split the [1:01:28, 1:01:31]: ownership between the the landlord and the tenant. [1:01:32, 1:01:32]: Um [1:01:33, 1:01:37]: But when it's owner occupied, it's just one fee fee simple owner. [1:01:38, 1:01:39]: Yes. Thank you. [1:01:41, 1:01:47]: All right. So we've already um made a motion, second the motion, and uh we did vote on that. Is that correct? [1:01:48, 1:01:49]: Okay. You now just [1:01:50, 1:01:51]: Go right here, sir. [1:01:51, 1:01:52]: May I I I um [1:01:53, 1:01:57]: I just want to make sure we're protecting that we're protecting the [1:01:58, 1:01:59]: The homeowners were [1:02:00, 1:02:11]: uh that versus looking out for developers. Don't want developers to get into this mode and to say the stock bridge. But homeowners, single homeowners, [1:02:12, 1:02:17]: I wanna just wanna make sure we're not saying that if you've been in your house for 20 years. [1:02:17, 1:02:29]: Because most subdivisions, uh HOAs and this and that, um don't allow so many percentage of renting rental properties in the subdivisions. So I just want to make sure we we're not [1:02:30, 1:02:31]: Telling a homeowner. [1:02:32, 1:02:35]: That if you decide to redo your house. [1:02:35, 1:02:36]: And rent it out. [1:02:37, 1:02:41]: that you're not protect that that this doesn't protect their right to do that. [1:02:42, 1:02:45]: That's what I'm trying to make sure that we're we're we're looking at this at [1:02:46, 1:02:49]: toward developers and development com developers coming in and [1:02:49, 1:02:53]: and and and and saturating versus a single home owner. [1:02:54, 1:02:57]: I just want to make sure they're protected with what we're getting ready to do. [1:02:59, 1:03:07]: Okay. I well go ahead. Go ahead, Mr. Knight. I was gonna defer to Mike, but I assuming this of de this refers only to new home construction. [1:03:08, 1:03:13]: The the moratorium would apply to any new developments going forward. [1:03:14, 1:03:19]: But the ultimate resolution that we bring back as part of the UDC. [1:03:19, 1:03:21]: could apply [1:03:21, 1:03:25]: uh to existing developments as well, but that's to be determined. [1:03:26, 1:03:28]: The reason for that is. [1:03:28, 1:03:32]: You know, it's it's hard to make a distinction between [1:03:32, 1:03:38]: You know, a home that's existing that a homeowner say they, you know, they take a job in another state they want to rent that. [1:03:39, 1:03:39]: Um [1:03:39, 1:03:40]: I can't [1:03:41, 1:03:45]: It's hard to make a distinguish between that individual owner and then a [1:03:45, 1:03:48]: uh another owner, whether they're a corporate entity or not. [1:03:49, 1:03:53]: doing the same thing. It it's y at the end of the day it's still a lease of a [1:03:53, 1:04:09]: residential structure. And so that's what we're gonna have to work through when when we're preparing uh language to address this problem going forward is how we make those distinctions and and what's a fair basis uh upon doing that. [1:04:10, 1:04:14]: Well, I I would like to see that uh prior to submitting it for me. [1:04:14, 1:04:17]: Because I I don't want um [1:04:17, 1:04:22]: You know, people buy homes and then if they find a new home, single, you know. [1:04:22, 1:04:30]: That can become an investment property for them singly. I understand when we want to stop the development. I just don't want us crossing over to. [1:04:31, 1:04:35]: something else that it that really shouldn't be the intent of what we're doing. [1:04:35, 1:04:41]: So I would like to see that before we go forward because I I I'm not I'm not voting to stop. [1:04:42, 1:04:45]: someone that's been living in their home on a single property. [1:04:45, 1:04:51]: and decide that that they want their home because they're moving to a new home to be an investment property versus selling it. [1:04:51, 1:04:53]: I don't want that to be our cause. [1:04:55, 1:05:01]: Yes, sir. Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. Yeah. Uh well let's be very clear. This does not [1:05:01, 1:05:05]: Mr. Blount, what you just said, what we just passed does not affect that. [1:05:05, 1:05:11]: It only refers to new home construction. If we decide to do something as you mentioned. [1:05:11, 1:05:13]: Uh with the ULDC. [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: Then that's still to come, but what we passed tonight. [1:05:17, 1:05:18]: До зна [1:05:18, 1:05:22]: Inhibit homeowners from doing that, from renting their properties. [1:05:24, 1:05:27]: All right. On that note, I think we're done with that particular subject right now. [1:05:27, 1:05:33]: My particular comments. This uh with deep heart and and uh and condolences to two outstanding [1:05:33, 1:05:53]: pastors in our community that have uh left us and that's uh pastor spencer t o' neill of global impact christian ministries and also uh pastor uh philip coombs of the the bridge first christian church so may prayers and the good lord and uh be continue to be with the immediate families [1:05:53, 1:06:13]: As well as the church families. And I know recently we spent some time in for the celebration life for Pastor Spence. And so continued strength for that church as well as they go through um re-redivining some things that they have to do here. So also condolences and prayers out to him. [1:06:13, 1:06:15]: Cameron Hank Aaron. [1:06:15, 1:06:16]: An icon. [1:06:16, 1:06:18]: Uh obviously uh [1:06:18, 1:06:38]: besides having a very successful baseball career and being a home run king per se, I mean he was also very active in the community dealing with civil rights and equal rights and philanthropy in a sense here in the Atlanta metro area. So um I think he's been a great great great man. So um I'm I'm glad [1:06:38, 1:06:48]: Glad everybody's at least given him his his honors as now as well. And they really think it was a class, class act, gentlemen. Really appreciate the fact that uh he was well respected. [1:06:50, 1:07:10]: Well, folks, the pandemic is still here. It hasn't gone anywhere. We got to uh got to defeat this. And one of the ways we can defeat this is to make sure that uh if you have any symptoms of of the coronavirus or if you think you need to get checked out for testing, do so. You can call the public health department at 800-800-200-800-800 [1:07:10, 1:07:28]: 847-4262. Once again, 800-847-4262. And for the for Wednesday and Thursday of this uh week, uh there's still going to be the Henry County along with the public health department is still having a mobile. [1:07:28, 1:07:31]: a testing site. So Wednesday, which would be tomorrow. [1:07:32, 1:07:39]: That'd be the North Carmel, uh Mount North Mount Carmel Park, 307 North Mount Carmel Road. It's in Hampton. [1:07:39, 1:07:45]: And um that that actually is from uh 10 a.m. to three p.m. And this Friday. [1:07:46, 1:07:53]: We'll be at the uh Warren Holder Park at 301 Club Drive in Locus Grove. Once again, it's 10 a.m. to three p.m. to get tested. [1:07:54, 1:07:58]: Now what's probably what's most likely gonna happen that these mobile test sites were gonna cease. [1:07:59, 1:08:04]: And then where you want to get tested, you'll have to make an appointment and make it and go to the [1:08:04, 1:08:06]: here to senior center [1:08:06, 1:08:10]: Uh which is at uh ten fifty Florence McGardy Boulevard in McDonough. [1:08:11, 1:08:16]: And uh that is Monday to Thursday and nine a.m. to three PM. [1:08:16, 1:08:18]: In Saturday, nine AM to twelve noon. [1:08:19, 1:08:21]: And part of the process why this reduction [1:08:21, 1:08:29]: And testing is the emphasis is going to go to the vaccination, the staffing for vaccination is aspect. And right now, [1:08:29, 1:08:35]: The vaccinations in Henry County with the public health department and along with our county uh headquarters. [1:08:35, 1:08:38]: For last several weeks has been at the Atlanta Motor Speedway. [1:08:39, 1:08:43]: And you have to make a reservation there to to get your vaccination as aspect as well. [1:08:44, 1:08:48]: So Tuesday, February second and Tuesday, February ninth. [1:08:48, 1:08:49]: From nine to noon. [1:08:50, 1:08:59]: Individuals will be authorized once you make a reservation. Now you have to have a reservation and receive the first shot. So this would be a second shot. So folks that have already had a first shot. [1:08:59, 1:09:19]: And next Tuesday, February 2nd and February 9th, the Motor Atlanta Motor Speedway, you'll be able to go back. You should have a registration card already, an appointment to get your second shot. Mind you, the pharmacies at places like Publix and Ingalls and Walgreens, you can check with them as well to potentially get your vaccination. [1:09:19, 1:09:39]: Uh if you can't get into the public health department and and get in a rotation for that. There are other uh agencies that uh will be giving out the vaccination shot as well. So you have to call them and uh do that. Once again, if you're a health care we're in phase one A still, so you have to be a health care partner, long term care for [1:09:39, 1:09:58]: facility, EMS, the first responder, policemen, fire department, individual at 65 years or older and your health and your health care providers or individuals that take care of you. And of course those those 65 older individuals with higher risk categories. [1:09:59, 1:10:18]: Okay. And so if you happen to take the Moderma um vaccination, uh you have to be 18 years older. Obviously it's two shots and they're you're supposed to take the there are 28 days between each shot. So after you take your first one, they'll set you up for appointment for your second one. The Pfizer shot. [1:10:18, 1:10:22]: Is uh you had to be sixteen years older for that particular shot. [1:10:22, 1:10:23]: Two shots as well. [1:10:24, 1:10:32]: And uh they're 21 days apart. So once you take your first shot, your second shot will be 21 days later and they'll give you an appointment for that until you come back once that happens. So [1:10:33, 1:10:33]: Um [1:10:34, 1:10:52]: So we'll continue to go through this process. And obviously there's some logistics issues and staffing issues when it comes to this, but you got to keep the faith and keep trying to get the shot so we can be so you can beat the spread. So when you're out in the public domain, make sure you stay six feet away, continue to wear your mask, wash your hands and use hand sanitizer. [1:10:53, 1:10:58]: if you're uh if you're not able to uh wash hands right away and um [1:10:59, 1:11:13]: And stay away from big crowds, big, big, big gatherings per se in this aspect, but you got to keep the faith. And I'm hoping that as we go through this process, we talked about an amphitheater earlier. So when we have a grand opening for an amphitheater, I'd like to have it for everybody to come out and join us. [1:11:13, 1:11:33]: But we have to make sure we got a handle on this and on this uh pandemic and people get tested. And we're we have to herd immunity, as they call it. 80, 90 percent, I think it is, something along those lines, and getting people vaccinated. And what I understand, uh, there are several other companies that are producing uh the vaccine, vaccine that for this, so they haven't. [1:11:33, 1:11:41]: been approved by the FDA yet, just yet, but that's coming out. On that note, I will read some additional announcements. [1:11:42, 1:12:02]: Uh of course city offices are closed due to COVID-19 precautions currently. City Council meeting, the next one is 6 p.m. via Zoom, the second Monday of each month. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is 9 a.m. uh second Friday of each month. The downtown Development Authority meeting is uh 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. [1:12:02, 1:12:04]: Zoom uh the third Tuesday of each month. [1:12:06, 1:12:13]: U Council advisory meeting at 6:30 via Zoom, and that would be uh third Tuesday of each month. [1:12:14, 1:12:18]: The youth council meeting is six thirty on the third Wednesday of each month. [1:12:18, 1:12:38]: Also by way of Zoom, of course, planning commission meeting 6 30 at uh four Thursday of each month. And our next council work session, of course, is the last Tuesday of each month in this aspect. And uh council initiatives, uh Councilman Afonso Thomas will have its 11th annual African-American heritage celebration taking place. [1:12:38, 1:12:58]: Virtually on February 6th. Of course, and uh contact uh Mrs. Znobia Peterson at 404-565-5109. Once again, 404-565-5109 for additional information. And I'm pretty sure there'll be information on a website and a social media aspect on how you can check in. [1:12:58, 1:12:59]: Yeah. [1:12:59, 1:13:06]: virtually and and be able to participate and observe and be a part of the annual African American Heritage Celebration. [1:13:06, 1:13:10]: On that note, uh do we have any executive session issues that we need to discuss? [1:13:12, 1:13:17]: Are we going to zagular session? Okay. Yeah, Ms. M Mareputan. Yes, sir. [1:13:19, 1:13:21]: Mayor Tam, you you got your hand raised? [1:13:22, 1:13:26]: I'm so sorry about that. I make a motion that we don't have an executive session tonight. [1:13:27, 1:13:30]: All right. All right. Uh one set w Mr. Knighton, sir. [1:13:31, 1:13:38]: Oh, I'm sorry. Let me, I'm sorry. I I I wanted to present Mr. Peterson's new economic development manager, please. I'm sorry. [1:13:38, 1:13:40]: Yeah. I'm finished. [1:13:40, 1:13:42]: Finish that portion of business, I'm sorry. [1:13:43, 1:13:47]: Uh we can come back to that. Go ahead, Miss Knight. Well he he's it we'll we'll come back to that. Go ahead, sir. [1:13:49, 1:13:56]: I just wanted to to for the viewing audience in particular to mention Alan Peterson since he's joining us tonight. I believe this is the first meeting he's been able to join us. [1:13:56, 1:14:00]: Um and he started in the first of January on January fourth. [1:14:00, 1:14:03]: He comes to dus comes to us um [1:14:04, 1:14:23]: uh with um a good solid resume and we look forward to uh everything that he'll bring as an asset to the city of stockbridge. He has been he's hit the ground running I I can tell you. Um he had a list of a three-page list for me that we spent about two and a half hours going over. Obviously met with other members of the staff. [1:14:23, 1:14:31]: um and save been able to attend I believe a DDA meeting as well uh thus far. Um but we look forward to um everything that he [1:14:32, 1:14:35]: Will bring to us in terms of knowledge, understanding. [1:14:35, 1:14:40]: And vision uh for the city of Stockbridge, and just wanted to acknowledge his presence. [1:14:40, 1:14:47]: And uh if he would be allowed to just say hello to everyone. Absolutely, Mr. Peterson, Florida. [1:14:47, 1:14:47]: The director. [1:14:49, 1:14:54]: Uh good evening everyone. I'm happy to be here. I wanna let all of you know that I certainly look [1:14:54, 1:15:10]: forward to working with you all so that we can advance the city of Stockbridge as far as economic development is concerned. I I look forward to meeting with each and every one of you. I won't have a three page meeting agenda like I did with Mr. Knighton, but I certainly look forward to meeting with you all. [1:15:11, 1:15:17]: Good deal. Appreciate it. Okay. Back to Mayor Pro Tem. You made a motion, sir, to uh not go to the second session. Is that right? [1:15:18, 1:15:18]: That's correct. [1:15:19, 1:15:20]: Is there a second? [1:15:22, 1:15:23]: Ms. Ms. Mayor. [1:15:24, 1:15:26]: I don't have a second, I have a comment. [1:15:27, 1:15:27]: Go ahead. [1:15:28, 1:15:45]: Okay. Um for over a month now we have an HR independent third party study. And I feel that it's been negligent and being done on purpose that we are not attending executive sessions. I want that on the record, just like I said it, Miss Holliday. [1:15:46, 1:15:56]: I feel that we are being negligent and irresponsible and that we are not providing a good example or the respect of our staff. [1:15:57, 1:16:06]: administrative and staff by not discussing this report and not going into executive session to avoid the report. [1:16:08, 1:16:14]: That's all I have to say. And I think that is important that we go ahead and get that out of the way regardless of the results. [1:16:15, 1:16:17]: Okay. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:16:20, 1:16:25]: Well, certainly um it is not my intent to avoid discussing any [1:16:26, 1:16:27]: Survey um [1:16:28, 1:16:31]: Our retreat is coming up in a few weeks. [1:16:32, 1:16:35]: Um so I assume that we would discuss that as we [1:16:35, 1:16:47]: have other issues we need to discuss as well, such as the purchasing policy. So many other issues. That is another item that we need to add to the retreat agenda. [1:16:48, 1:16:54]: Um so no, it is not my intent of uh skirting my duties or responsibilities at all. [1:16:54, 1:16:55]: That's all. [1:16:56, 1:17:02]: Okay, stand by. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. Thank you. Mayor, we did some things last meeting that were [1:17:03, 1:17:07]: N I mean, we have some urgent things in that report that everyone has read. [1:17:08, 1:17:17]: And it is urgent that we discuss those things and at least out of respect of mayor and council, based off of the emails that we've had already, we were willing to discuss them. [1:17:18, 1:17:30]: Um, Councilwoman Barber, you had mentioned on the email yourself that you were willing to discuss it with all the council members at the executive session. And so we have already had, it's been over a month. [1:17:30, 1:17:39]: and a half of this going back and forth. We have other issues that we need to discuss, including um legal matters and different things. [1:17:40, 1:17:50]: that I think that is imperative that we discuss in the executive session. And for some reason we are avoiding it. And I say to this point that so be it. [1:17:51, 1:17:56]: We will be negligent and not be lied and will be liable for anything and any other circumstance. [1:17:56, 1:17:58]: Uh stand by. Mr. Blount, please. [1:17:58, 1:18:03]: I just want to say when it comes to the HR um survey that was done. [1:18:04, 1:18:07]: One of the things about having a uh retreat. [1:18:08, 1:18:27]: Uh it's that all staff members and and and the elected bodies are all on one page and we discuss uh at that retreat. This HR survey is not for all staff. It was given to the elected body to discuss and get an update on that behind closed doors because it becomes a personnel matter. [1:18:28, 1:18:35]: Uh so it was it was designed to go into executive session, not at a retreat. Let me go ahead and put that out front. [1:18:35, 1:18:40]: Uh second, I I think that we do have some uh litigation updates that we need. [1:18:41, 1:18:44]: That we need to be informed on. We have to also remember that, you know. [1:18:45, 1:18:48]: Um this uh the majority of this council has [1:18:48, 1:19:06]: um um voted to not continue with our city attorney. And right now today would be a good time to ask whatever questions, because I don't know what the future will hold with this. A good question and question our city attorney on some issues when it comes to litigation that needs to be discussed. [1:19:06, 1:19:07]: Um [1:19:07, 1:19:11]: And so I I think that executive session is warranted and needed. [1:19:11, 1:19:18]: So let's not hide the find hide in the facade that it this thing with the HR is is for the retreat because it's not for the retreat. [1:19:19, 1:19:22]: is an is it's it's it's pertaining to employees. [1:19:23, 1:19:32]: Uh, and this should be done in the executive session by because if you do it at the retreat, it would only have to be us anyway. So why wait to retreat when we can do it now? [1:19:33, 1:19:38]: Uh so that's I d I think we need an executive session. We have some litigation to discuss. [1:19:38, 1:19:40]: Uh mayor in that litigation. [1:19:41, 1:19:44]: Uh, portion of that litigation has to do with uh [1:19:44, 1:19:45]: The elected body. [1:19:46, 1:19:55]: uh without going into uh any other discussions that we need an update because I'm I don't want to hear this and that. I wanna know what's the update pertaining to that. [1:19:56, 1:19:57]: Mm. [1:19:57, 1:20:01]: pertaining to elected body and when I would uh and and I'm trying uh [1:20:02, 1:20:07]: Not to go there with it, but but when we talk about going to executive session pertaining elected body. [1:20:08, 1:20:10]: Ви кантха ділекта бади. [1:20:11, 1:20:14]: that it's pertaining to voting not to go into executive session. [1:20:15, 1:20:17]: All right. Ms. Barber, you had your hand up. [1:20:20, 1:20:34]: Yes, thank you. I wanted to respond to Councilwoman Gantt. Yes, my initial response to the email when I said that I wanted to discuss the survey with the full council. [1:20:34, 1:20:38]: Your response was we were all going to hear. [1:20:38, 1:20:41]: from the individual who conducted the survey. [1:20:41, 1:20:42]: Individually. [1:20:43, 1:20:49]: So you heard from her individually. Councilman Blount heard from her individually. [1:20:50, 1:20:58]: So did Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. So did I and Councilman Thomas. We all heard from her individually. [1:20:58, 1:21:00]: So I'm not sure at this point. [1:21:00, 1:21:01]: What more? [1:21:02, 1:21:08]: Do we need to discuss that is urgent right now that can't wait until the retreat? [1:21:08, 1:21:09]: At the retreat. [1:21:10, 1:21:14]: We can have time alone with just a council. [1:21:14, 1:21:23]: We don't have to necessarily have staff involved in. I don't see it being an urgent matter that needs to be discussed. [1:21:23, 1:21:25]: Tonight, as a matter of fact. [1:21:25, 1:21:29]: I think it was two meetings ago, I wanted to go into executive session. [1:21:30, 1:21:30]: You voted no. [1:21:31, 1:21:33]: So now it's urgent. [1:21:33, 1:21:35]: I don't want to play these games. [1:21:36, 1:21:38]: I don't want to play these kinds of games. [1:21:39, 1:21:39]: Mm. [1:21:40, 1:21:48]: I always think I voted no to anything. Stand by, stand by Mr. Mr. Night. Mr. Night, sir. [1:21:48, 1:22:03]: Uh have we uh suggest suggested a date just yet or have a date for our retreat that we do now? Stand by folks. I need to ask a question. You'll get your turn. It's nice. We do not have a definitive date um for the retreat. [1:22:03, 1:22:09]: It would likely be the first or middle of March. We had the last one in September. Six months later would be about [1:22:09, 1:22:14]: that time. And so that's what I would propose in terms of a potential dates for [1:22:14, 1:22:17]: The retreat. Obviously we have to check with the council schedule, you all. [1:22:18, 1:22:21]: Um, to determine definitively, but that is the time frame that I'm looking at. [1:22:22, 1:22:23]: Okay, Mirapal Tim Alexander. [1:22:24, 1:22:28]: Yes, sir. Thank you so much. But let let's be quite clear here, okay? [1:22:28, 1:22:32]: Each and every member of this council [1:22:32, 1:22:37]: can talk to the city manager and city attorney any time they want to. [1:22:38, 1:22:40]: If you have recommendations that you want to make [1:22:41, 1:22:46]: You could you could open that door to open his door, the city manager's door is open. [1:22:47, 1:22:49]: The city attorney's doors open. [1:22:49, 1:22:53]: All of those individual conversations can be had any time. [1:22:54, 1:22:56]: D after this meeting? [1:22:56, 1:23:04]: Tomorrow morning, the day after that, anything that you want on your mind. I have been communicating with the city manager. [1:23:04, 1:23:09]: about my thoughts behind it behind the survey and many things. [1:23:10, 1:23:13]: And each and every one of you can do the same thing. [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: We don't have to agree. [1:23:16, 1:23:33]: on everything, on on the rec recommendations or anything. All we have to do is pick up the phone, call the city manager, city attorney, or any official that you want to talk to. I've been through many a retreat and this is the refrain that I've heard over and over again. [1:23:34, 1:23:54]: Save it for the retreat where we could have an ex yes, you can have executive sessions at retreats. This is a comprehensive report. This report is hundreds of pages, okay, that needs to be reviewed. It can't be reviewed in such a short period of time. And the review that we will be able to conduct at the [1:23:53, 1:24:09]: retreat we get a sufficient amount of time to uh uh to analyze and to get as much input about the validity of the report or about any particular topic that we want. Why would we rush to have a discussion [1:24:10, 1:24:30]: Uh in uh for in an executive session that will go way into the night when we don't have time to review all of these documents with the appropriate officials. The retreat is the appropriate time to do that, where we get all of the information, everybody will be able to chime in, review the report. [1:24:29, 1:24:31]: You have any questions about it until [1:24:32, 1:24:48]: the time uh that the uh retreat comes up, the city manager can answer that. So can the attorney or whomever you want to talk to. Let's not make any mistake of of understanding that we gotta go in executive session to talk about anything. We don't. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: We can talk about anything we want. [1:24:52, 1:25:06]: privately with the city manager anytime on the phone or on uh with the city attorney. It's not necessary to discuss it amongst all of us. We all can read and we all can interpret. I might have a different interpretation. [1:25:07, 1:25:12]: I made some of my recommendations already and you all can do the same thing if you like. [1:25:14, 1:25:33]: I would I would say that there are things that we would have to discuss, no whether the personnel litigation type issues, property acquisition type issues that would have to discuss in a second session. That's what it's designed for. But I would eventually think that we would have to do that. And I want to stop for a minute and be quiet. Councilman Thomas, you have yet to speak. So you have something you need to add? [1:25:33, 1:25:36]: Well, what what I want to say was [1:25:36, 1:25:39]: I attempted to call a special call meeting. [1:25:40, 1:25:43]: Surely the strictly for executive session. [1:25:44, 1:25:45]: Well we would have had [1:25:46, 1:25:47]: The time [1:25:48, 1:25:52]: to discuss and mayor and I don't know why you wanted a unanimous decision. [1:25:53, 1:25:57]: I don't I don't think it was proper, you know. I don't you never asked for that. [1:25:57, 1:25:59]: in any other um [1:25:59, 1:26:00]: Executive sessions. [1:26:01, 1:26:06]: And you may want to speak to that, but uh my intentions. [1:26:06, 1:26:09]: Even though we was talking about the condemnation issue. [1:26:10, 1:26:14]: Uh, but still that session could have lent loaned herself to [1:26:14, 1:26:16]: uh other discussion. [1:26:16, 1:26:19]: So I'm just saying I I attempted to do that and [1:26:19, 1:26:22]: We didn't get the response from everyone. So I don't know. [1:26:24, 1:26:28]: I mean, you know, every day it's just something different. So I I just don't know how to [1:26:28, 1:26:32]: You know, you you you try to do you you hear what other council members are saying. [1:26:33, 1:26:35]: Then when you try to accommodate that [1:26:36, 1:26:38]: And then that doesn't work, so [1:26:38, 1:26:42]: I'm just baffled on, you know, how do we go forward to [1:26:42, 1:26:50]: make sure that what we're doing, you know, all council members have an opportunity to, you know, have input. So I'm just a little baffled. [1:26:51, 1:27:11]: Well to answer your question, the reason why I want a unanimous decision is so we can all be together, all five of us, along with with the city manager and and attorney for those issues, so we can all discuss this uh in a second session privately and share each other's thoughts and ideas on this idea, and everybody at least try to get on the same sheet of p uh music, piece of paper or whatever, for the things that we have to deal with. [1:27:11, 1:27:13]: I mean the decisions that we have to make. [1:27:13, 1:27:18]: uh that to take us all to be involved in that and I and I I prefer [1:27:18, 1:27:30]: I prefer that we're all together doing that and and that way we all have the same information at the same time and can make some type have dialogue and make some type of decision and move forward. On that note, I'll be quiet. Ms. Gantt, you're next. [1:27:31, 1:27:41]: Thank you, Mayor. Um uh Councilwoman Barber, in reference to stating that we want that we all want an individual, that's not true. I have an email here dated. [1:27:41, 1:27:44]: for um, I believe January fourth. [1:27:45, 1:27:47]: Where it was briefly stated. [1:27:47, 1:27:49]: And uh there was a response back. [1:27:49, 1:27:50]: In regards to [1:27:51, 1:27:51]: Um [1:27:52, 1:28:00]: Councilman Alexander at the time stating that he wanted to hear the whole thing alone. That was on his email, not mine. [1:28:01, 1:28:21]: But however, we agreed, however, we agreed that at that point in time, so it wasn't me stating that we all were to meet and discuss individually. Even when we met and discussed individually, we've had the opportunity to go over this interview session, go over the session with the HR independent independent. [1:28:21, 1:28:22]: Person. [1:28:23, 1:28:27]: who has spoken to, from my understanding, I guess now, each and every single one of us. [1:28:28, 1:28:41]: So my issue is one, I'm not trying to avoid um, you know, uh uh Councilman Thomas a special call meeting in that regard. This particular report seemed to be [1:28:41, 1:28:46]: just completely overlooked. And after reading the report [1:28:47, 1:29:04]: We've had several occasions and several opportunities to address it and we didn't. Not one time on here did it say, let's wait for a retreat. I think it's just the lack, I think it's irresponsible of us to do that. And I and you know, we can go on today. [1:29:08, 1:29:10]: Seems like she's frozen there. [1:29:10, 1:29:20]: 'cause it's a real estate personnel or litigation issue. If you want, I can spill the beans right. I can talk about it right here. If that's what you prefer to do, because that's not illegal. [1:29:21, 1:29:34]: So we're either going what I'm saying to you is is that we have we have had these opportunities over and over again to discuss these issues and we have chosen not to do so. [1:29:34, 1:29:40]: So we are avoiding. We are avoiding the topic of personnel matters. And I think that that is important. [1:29:41, 1:29:52]: Other than that, you know, so be it. If we're going to, we still need information on litigation. Yes, we can talk to Mr. Knighton and Attorney Williams one-on-one. [1:29:53, 1:30:02]: But it's better to talk about those issues and discuss them as a whole because some i something I might have a question about or wasn't thinking about. [1:30:03, 1:30:15]: So one of you may have, Councilwoman Barber, you might have a question on something totally different that I didn't think of. So us being in that room discussing certain matters and issues and making decisions, that's important. [1:30:16, 1:30:25]: That's all I have to say about that, Mayor. Councilman Blount, go ahead. Thank you. Blount, please. Yeah, I just want to say that you know, I when when my name is thrown in the mix. [1:30:25, 1:30:30]: Uh I didn't have an individual meeting with uh the HR surveyor. [1:30:30, 1:30:37]: Uh Councilwoman uh Gantt and Mayor Ford, we all had the meeting because we didn't call an executive session for everyone to hear the meeting. [1:30:38, 1:30:41]: Uh we could have elected to call an executive session for everyone to hear. [1:30:42, 1:30:47]: But uh when Mr. Alexander said that he won the individual meeting, that still left [1:30:47, 1:30:53]: Two other council members that could have been heard it in executive session. So I just want to get that clear. But it here's the bottom line. [1:30:54, 1:31:14]: You know, we're sitting here and I'm not going to go into all these little back and forth uh with grown people here. And as you saw tonight, that we move whatever need to be moved forward got moved forward tonight. Um so that because I didn't have time for a special call meeting, but we see that nothing came out by our city manager that something [1:31:14, 1:31:15]: was pressing. [1:31:15, 1:31:20]: Was anything pressing that couldn't have waited till tonight to approve or to do tonight? [1:31:20, 1:31:26]: No, it wasn't because everything tonight was handled and then the special call meeting would not have changed that. [1:31:27, 1:31:33]: Everything that needed to be handled tonight was handled. And is there something else that needed to be discussed? Then then discuss it in executive session. [1:31:33, 1:31:35]: So that I wasn't I wasn't [1:31:36, 1:31:56]: I wasn't for a special call meeting. First of all, I didn't have the time. And there was nothing sent to us that it was a pressing issue to have one. When that special call meeting was set up, it was set up with specifics. Specifics mean that when we go back there and discuss in executive session what was to be discussed, three council members can get up and walk. [1:31:56, 1:32:00]: out because they don't want to hear anything else. I didn't have time to play those kind of games. [1:32:01, 1:32:06]: Just like right now, three council members can say, Hey, let's not have an executive session, even though. [1:32:07, 1:32:10]: It's been stated that we need to have an executive session. [1:32:10, 1:32:17]: So the games that are being played here are foolish. And who's going to take the bad end of the stick is the citizens of Stockbridge. [1:32:19, 1:32:23]: Mirror Tim, Alexander, go ahead now. Let's just say this right now. Okay. [1:32:23, 1:32:28]: The council members can have an executive session if they choose, or they could choose not to. [1:32:28, 1:32:33]: The first thing I did today was to call the city manager and have a conversation with him. [1:32:33, 1:32:37]: about were there any pressing issues that need that had to be discussed tonight. [1:32:38, 1:32:39]: Peace it. [1:32:39, 1:32:48]: Nope, we didn't have any pressing issues that had to be discussed in executive session, but he always defenses to the council if we wanted to do so. [1:32:48, 1:32:53]: I don't think that we do need to do so. And I think Councilman Thomas hit it right on the head. [1:32:54, 1:33:14]: He tried, as I said, he always brings something to the table. Last week, he said, you know what? Why don't we call a special call meeting? So the meeting will only be about executive session issues. I voted for that. I did because [1:33:14, 1:33:33]: I don't want to be here all night talking about a subject that I don't several subjects that I don't have time to look and invest the time necessary to solve or to delve into that information. But if we had voted for that executive session, which I did and he did. [1:33:33, 1:33:44]: And Councilwoman Barber did, we would be having that meeting. We would have had that meeting with a sufficient enough time, with nothing else going on but that. [1:33:44, 1:33:48]: But again, I referred to the city manager who said. [1:33:48, 1:33:52]: If we so choose, we could have individual updates. [1:33:52, 1:33:58]: If we w we like to do that. There was nothing so pressing that we had to have an executive session tonight. [1:33:58, 1:34:18]: But again, he's always going to defer to us if that's what we so choose. But I commend Councilman Thomas for taking the lead and saying, okay, if this is what you want to do, let us have this meeting specifically just for that. Now, the next occasion to do that is the retreat. [1:34:18, 1:34:18]: Three. [1:34:19, 1:34:21]: I got the information that I needed. [1:34:21, 1:34:41]: And I'm acting upon it in the way in the manner that I think fitting. So I'm okay with what with what needs to be done. And I'm okay with the fact that I raised my hand and I consented to have a special call meeting last week to discuss any topic. Does anybody wanted to discuss? [1:34:41, 1:34:43]: Yeah. [1:34:43, 1:34:53]: And I couldn't get that done. I and I've heard you, Merrick, you say this all the time. To get anything in StockBridge done, it takes three votes. [1:34:54, 1:34:56]: I've seen your position move. [1:34:57, 1:35:16]: Where it now it certainly takes a unanimous decision to do something where we've had three to two votes many a time in order to do that. I don't like that marker because the city charter does not set anything at unanimous in order to have a meeting. It says it at three council members and the mayor. [1:35:16, 1:35:32]: Cause so with the three council members that signed up, Mayor, you could have presided over that meeting. Yeah, I know that. Let me ask me a let me ask you a question. Uh what it amounts to, I said earlier in the conversation, I was looking for unanimous decisions so we could all be together and talk about [1:35:33, 1:35:53]: multiple issues. The special call meeting was only for one topic only. There's several different things we need to talk about. And and waiting, if we didn't if we don't get the executive session until or we have the retreat in in in the March, there's plenty of things, whether it deals illegal or let or or or property issues that we need to decide on. And we need to decide that collectively as a group. [1:35:53, 1:36:05]: I prefer I said that before, I prefer to have everybody together. So we all hear the same thing or have other questions and we bounce things off one another and make a decision, move the foot forward. That's my point. I said that earlier. And I've actually said it in my emails as well. [1:36:06, 1:36:15]: now in that aspect. So but uh uh anyway, I'm gonna stop right there. Then I'm gonna go to Miss Barber. Okay, folks, we now now we are gonna get long on this. We keep going. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:36:15, 1:36:17]: No, I wanted to um [1:36:17, 1:36:23]: um address the email that Councilwoman Gantt is referring to. [1:36:23, 1:36:27]: When the consultant sent the email to the entire council [1:36:27, 1:36:32]: She had Council Mayor Pro Tem Alexander's email address incorrect. [1:36:33, 1:36:36]: All I did was reforward it to the entire mayor and council. [1:36:36, 1:36:38]: When I did that, the consultant [1:36:39, 1:36:45]: sent me a individual email and asked me when was I available to meet with her to go over this survey. [1:36:46, 1:36:50]: I responded back to her and I included the entire mayor council. [1:36:51, 1:36:52]: My response was [1:36:53, 1:36:55]: My schedule is flexible. [1:36:56, 1:36:58]: I would like to review this with the full council. [1:36:59, 1:37:02]: Councilwoman Gent responded. [1:37:02, 1:37:05]: back to the entire council to my email. [1:37:05, 1:37:15]: Speaking for Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, in which she said he wanted to hear from the consultant directly on his own. [1:37:16, 1:37:22]: So when I initially said that I wanted to um hear the survey with the entire council. [1:37:23, 1:37:25]: She had already responded back that [1:37:25, 1:37:38]: He was hearing from her on his own. I assume that she and Councilman Blount, which he also responded and said he had already heard from her, he had already reviewed it with her. [1:37:39, 1:37:40]: So I [1:37:40, 1:37:41]: Took it upon myself. [1:37:42, 1:37:44]: to coordinate with Councilman Thomas. [1:37:45, 1:37:47]: for us to do a conference call with her. [1:37:48, 1:37:50]: I've reviewed the survey on my own. [1:37:51, 1:37:53]: I have some concerns about it. [1:37:53, 1:38:00]: Some concerns about it. Um, and it's not necessarily um concerns that would [1:38:00, 1:38:01]: Um [1:38:04, 1:38:07]: Align with what is said in the survey. [1:38:08, 1:38:13]: It is not. Um, I have some concerns about the survey and how it was conducted. [1:38:14, 1:38:19]: So no, I'm not avoiding having any conversations. Two meetings ago. [1:38:19, 1:38:30]: I wanted to have executive session. I mean everybody else voted against it. I thought that would be a good opportunity for us to talk about it. We did not. So why not discuss this? [1:38:30, 1:38:31]: situation. [1:38:31, 1:38:34]: А та ретрит, верво тайм. [1:38:34, 1:38:42]: That we can do our own dis investigations, have our conversations with Mr. Knighton individually. [1:38:43, 1:38:45]: and we'll be done with it. [1:38:46, 1:38:51]: I don't understand why there is such a pressing need to do it tonight. [1:38:52, 1:39:02]: And this is a blown up litigation matter that we need to take urgent um pay urgent attention to it right now. That is what I don't understand. [1:39:04, 1:39:04]: Exactly. [1:39:05, 1:39:09]: We've we've had a lot of comments, folks. And I and I I'm we probably just need to end this. [1:39:09, 1:39:17]: Well Mayor, I I need uh because I was mayor, I had my hand up, Mayor. Okay, ho stand. Ms. Mr. Blount, stand by. [1:39:17, 1:39:19]: Go ahead, Councilman Thomas, please. Go ahead. [1:39:19, 1:39:25]: I I I I my comment, I I really want to end this and I think this is where you're trying to go too. [1:39:25, 1:39:27]: And and I just want to say that um [1:39:28, 1:39:30]: You know, I've been on the council for a while. [1:39:30, 1:39:33]: And and you know, it's been a lot of [1:39:34, 1:39:34]: Um [1:39:35, 1:39:37]: You know, this type of discussion. [1:39:38, 1:39:41]: And I just want to say to all of us, um [1:39:42, 1:39:44]: There are no winners. [1:39:44, 1:39:48]: When we have these kind of discussions like we're having tonight. [1:39:49, 1:39:52]: You know, it it appears that everybody wanna [1:39:52, 1:39:56]: try to get that point in and they think that they'll win because [1:39:56, 1:39:59]: You know, they make a point here, they make a point there. [1:40:00, 1:40:03]: There are no winners here tonight. There are no winners. [1:40:03, 1:40:05]: We're all losers. [1:40:05, 1:40:09]: We got to figure out a better way to have these kind of discussions. [1:40:09, 1:40:13]: And I agree that they should happen in executive session. [1:40:13, 1:40:14]: Good up. [1:40:14, 1:40:16]: What I'm just saying tonight, this [1:40:16, 1:40:17]: This year [1:40:18, 1:40:23]: has to stop. I don't have an issue with anyone having a different of opinion than mine. [1:40:24, 1:40:26]: Um, I've learned [1:40:26, 1:40:28]: How to [1:40:28, 1:40:29]: Respect. [1:40:30, 1:40:33]: Other opinions, whether I agree or not. [1:40:34, 1:40:37]: But I'm not gonna sit here and try to [1:40:38, 1:40:39]: Dog out. [1:40:40, 1:40:43]: Talk bad about any process of any one. [1:40:43, 1:40:45]: In a forum like this. [1:40:46, 1:40:47]: Uh this just has to stop. [1:40:48, 1:40:53]: There are no winners here tonight, uh, men, ladies. There are no winners here. [1:40:54, 1:40:57]: So we got to learn how to to do this in a better way. [1:40:58, 1:41:00]: Yes, you know. [1:41:00, 1:41:05]: I can agree if the survey needed to be discussed. I'm not denying denying that. [1:41:05, 1:41:10]: Any pending litigation need to be discussed. I'm not denying that. [1:41:11, 1:41:13]: But what I am saying is this. [1:41:14, 1:41:16]: kind of back and forth. [1:41:16, 1:41:19]: And everyone trying to make that point, trying to get a point in and [1:41:19, 1:41:22]: And think that, you know, somebody's winning. [1:41:23, 1:41:24]: We're all on the losing team. [1:41:25, 1:41:26]: With this tonight. [1:41:27, 1:41:30]: So I recommend that we just stop this. [1:41:30, 1:41:34]: Let's put something back out for for another kind of meeting. It could be at the retreat. [1:41:34, 1:41:36]: It could be a call meeting or whatever. [1:41:37, 1:41:38]: But this [1:41:39, 1:41:41]: has to stop because [1:41:41, 1:41:43]: There are no winners. [1:41:43, 1:41:46]: No one is is gaining any points with this. [1:41:47, 1:41:50]: And we just c continue to go back and forth. So Mayor if you would [1:41:51, 1:41:54]: Let's just let this be the last comment and let's close this out. [1:41:54, 1:41:55]: And if so anybody [1:41:56, 1:41:58]: Anyone it takes [1:41:58, 1:42:05]: Three council members and the mayor, it takes four council members to convene an executive session or any special call meeting. [1:42:06, 1:42:08]: That's the way we need to do it. [1:42:08, 1:42:13]: This this here, I I'm getting ready to sign off in a few minutes myself because [1:42:13, 1:42:16]: Uh I I don't like being on the winning team. [1:42:16, 1:42:23]: And this is a winning team, right? This is a losing team. I don't like being on a losing team. This is a losing team when we do this. [1:42:23, 1:42:26]: We're all a losers here tonight with this. [1:42:26, 1:42:28]: We had a great meeting. [1:42:28, 1:42:32]: We ran the agenda. Someone alluded to the fact that we moved things forward. [1:42:33, 1:42:34]: That was winning. [1:42:34, 1:42:36]: But this right here, this is losing. [1:42:36, 1:42:39]: No one is winning here tonight. No one. [1:42:40, 1:42:41]: So mere [1:42:41, 1:42:42]: Let's let's end this. [1:42:43, 1:42:45]: And let's try to figure out how. [1:42:45, 1:42:54]: We can resolve our differences rather than being here. And everyone here knows that citizen has said this about us before. [1:42:55, 1:42:58]: Іно ви ж не то ста, ви ні то лисин. [1:42:58, 1:43:02]: to the citizen others. The city manager have said this before. [1:43:03, 1:43:05]: That's why you don't see me. [1:43:05, 1:43:11]: bashing anyone. I mean if someone come at me it's my nature to re retaliate back. [1:43:11, 1:43:13]: But I try not to. [1:43:14, 1:43:16]: So I'm uh that's not me. [1:43:16, 1:43:21]: I'm not trying to get any kind of points with anyone in in a statement that I make. [1:43:22, 1:43:28]: We need to stop this and figure out a better way to resolve our issues. [1:43:29, 1:43:38]: Appreciate it. Now, simultaneously, when your hand was up, uh Councilman Blount's hand was up. So we'll make Councilman Blount the last one, and then we'll t we'll go on and make continue on the meeting. [1:43:38, 1:43:40]: Okay. Let me just make this statement. [1:43:41, 1:43:46]: We can go back and forth with what was in emails. And when we're talking about we're losers here, that's not true. [1:43:46, 1:43:54]: I've said on many occasions, every elected official here, including you, Mayor, was elected by the citizens of Stockbridge. [1:43:54, 1:44:00]: And the respect to one another saying if any council member saying, hey, I would like to go to an executive session. [1:44:00, 1:44:01]: Then that's respect. [1:44:02, 1:44:03]: That's respect. [1:44:03, 1:44:16]: Because if you either want to go or don't want to go, and I'm glad to see Councilman Tom uh uh mayor uh count councilman Thomas sign off because that's what you have a uh uh that's what you have is a leave button on the Zoom call. [1:44:16, 1:44:24]: Because the truth is, at the end of any discussion, whether we like the discussion or not, you you have discussions to get to the truth. [1:44:25, 1:44:30]: You either gonna discuss it out here or you go behind closed doors to get the truth. [1:44:31, 1:44:42]: And when we talk about a city manager, I'm gonna let you know, when we talk about a city manager that has the right to do certain moves with the city and he comes to council, yes, we can say, I agree with you. [1:44:43, 1:44:45]: We can have a consensus. I agree with you. [1:44:45, 1:45:04]: But when you have a council where everyone here on this call is elected officials or elected to serve the citizens of Stockbridge, yet things are being done off a consensus, which was an argument arguing point at one time that we're doing consensus to move the city forward on emails. [1:45:04, 1:45:10]: That's the exact same thing that's going on right now. We want to talk about respect to one another. That's respect to one another. [1:45:11, 1:45:17]: When you when when the citizens take right now and look at the call, how they talk to each other and everybody jumping off. [1:45:17, 1:45:18]: Is that respect? [1:45:19, 1:45:25]: Is that respect? So I hopefully, hopefully in this election year, the citizens see. [1:45:25, 1:45:33]: Who's on this call that gonna respect one another and move the city forward rather than be with this consensus that has jumped off the phone. [1:45:33, 1:45:36]: Mayor, I know there's an absence of a quorum. [1:45:37, 1:45:40]: I so that means what? The m meeting automatically ends, I suppose. [1:45:41, 1:45:42]: Sure. [1:45:42, 1:45:47]: All right. All right. So be it. Good night, folks. See you soon. God bless you.

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[0:14:41, 0:14:43]: Thanks for having our [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: Got it. [0:14:46, 0:14:50]: Participants. So this is the panelist. We should have a panelist link. [0:14:53, 0:14:56]: Um let me add hold on, let me put you on speaker. [0:14:59, 0:15:02]: I'm gonna add your do you want me to use a different account? [0:15:04, 0:15:09]: No, it should go to B holiday at City of Did you hit say? [0:15:10, 0:15:18]: Um well maybe let me let me try that. Maybe I didn't save. I'll have to hit resend and then save. [0:15:21, 0:15:24]: So it it says edit panelist success, but that's [0:15:30, 0:15:36]: And let me check the email. V holiday at city of Stockbridge A.gov. [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: Yes. Okay. [0:15:41, 0:15:44]: Some equals joining. Let me take Sailor R. [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: Hold on, let me switch my screens. [0:15:48, 0:15:49]: Mm-hmm. [0:15:51, 0:15:56]: Okay, if it doesn't come through I'll just I'll just have to go in as a it didn't it come through. [0:15:57, 0:15:58]: Hi Sarah Equa. [0:15:58, 0:16:00]: Hey, how are you? Doing well. [0:16:00, 0:16:04]: We're trying to get the others joined, so give us a few minutes, we'll get started. [0:16:05, 0:16:05]: Um [0:16:07, 0:16:15]: Yeah, if you uh another way, Vanessa, if you come in as an attendee, and if I can if I know it's you, I can I think I can pull you in as a panelist that way. [0:16:15, 0:16:19]: Right. Okay. So let me do that. We go get them all going that way. [0:16:19, 0:16:20]: Okay. [0:16:21, 0:16:22]: Okay. Thanks, Roger. [0:16:23, 0:16:23]: Okay. [0:16:33, 0:16:34]: Okay, great. [0:16:37, 0:16:40]: How is my audio? Can you hear me well? [0:16:40, 0:16:44]: Yes. Oh great. Yeah, I can hear you fine too, see you clearly. [0:17:00, 0:17:05]: I think I mentioned to you that we're gonna do like uh introductions once we get the meeting kicked off. [0:17:06, 0:17:09]: So I'll ask you to tell us a little bit about yourself and [0:17:10, 0:17:12]: What your connection to Stockbridge is and uh [0:17:13, 0:17:16]: Why you serve on the why you've chosen to serve on the DEA. [0:17:16, 0:17:17]: Okay. [0:17:17, 0:17:19]: Maybe be thinking about that. Okay. [0:17:23, 0:17:27]: Is everybody gonna do that or you just sing, let me out? [0:17:27, 0:17:33]: No, every we're gonna go around the table because I we're relatively new. I think m um [0:17:34, 0:17:40]: Most everybody's been there less than a year and a few just a couple of months. When just a couple of months ago. Uh so [0:17:42, 0:17:46]: Let's see, I don't see her coming in as an attendee yet. [0:17:47, 0:17:53]: Vanessa Holliday is our city clerk and she's gonna be serving as uh recording secretary for our meetings. [0:17:53, 0:17:56]: Sorry. I'm trouble getting it on this one. [0:17:56, 0:17:59]: Well, make sure she can get in so she can take help take our minutes. [0:17:59, 0:18:00]: Okay. [0:18:52, 0:18:53]: There she is. All right. [0:18:54, 0:18:55]: Oh [0:18:55, 0:18:56]: Hey Vanessa. [0:18:56, 0:18:58]: Hey, how are you? [0:18:58, 0:18:59]: Hi Smeekle, how are you? [0:19:01, 0:19:02]: Okay. [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: Awesome. [0:19:22, 0:19:23]: Okay. [0:19:27, 0:19:27]: Excuse me. [0:19:30, 0:19:31]: Yeah. [0:19:37, 0:19:52]: Uh Vanessa, we made a minor change to the agenda. We'll we'll probably need to vote on it, but there was an error in the actually at the top of the attendees list. I still had Renee's name in there and stuff, but I fixed that. I'm gonna forward you that copy now. I I think I left you off. [0:19:53, 0:19:55]: When I sent it earlier to the group. [0:20:00, 0:20:01]: should be on its way to your email. [0:20:48, 0:20:49]: Yep. [0:21:31, 0:21:33]: [1293.6, 1293.9]: [0:22:21, 0:22:30]: Okay, just resent the meeting invites to see if uh they can join now. I I heard Barber was gonna be a bit late, but uh the others [0:22:30, 0:22:32]: I just got a response from Bob but [0:22:33, 0:22:34]: See if we uh [0:22:34, 0:22:36]: We'll need a quorum to start the meeting. [0:22:37, 0:22:39]: The attorney's not going to be joining us tonight, by the way. [0:22:41, 0:22:42]: And um [0:22:43, 0:22:46]: Sameek, we're not we're not yet in um [0:22:46, 0:22:48]: Published view. [0:22:49, 0:22:50]: For the meeting. [0:22:50, 0:22:57]: So once we have everyone together, then I'll open up I'll broadcast the meeting to make it open to the public. [0:23:26, 0:23:27]: Mm-hmm. [0:23:33, 0:23:35]: Hello. Hi Barber. [0:23:36, 0:23:37]: Made it. [0:23:38, 0:23:38]: Yeah. [0:23:39, 0:23:43]: I'm still waiting for others to join, so give us a moment. Let's see if this is one of the board members. [0:24:17, 0:24:17]: Uh oh. [0:24:21, 0:24:22]: Yeah, very [0:25:00, 0:25:00]: Yeah. [0:25:13, 0:25:14]: Hi Alan, how are you doing? [0:25:15, 0:25:23]: I'm Will. How are you doing today? Doing well, thanks. We're uh waiting for a few others to join so we can start the meeting. So if you'll just stand by. [0:25:25, 0:25:25]: So there. [0:25:26, 0:25:29]: Hello, how are you doing today? I'm doing well. How are you? [0:25:29, 0:25:31]: I'm well. Good. [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: [1600.8, 1601.3]: Okay. [0:27:00, 0:27:05]: meaner after he's been talked out of using his parking power for his family for [0:27:07, 0:27:08]: All right, how are you? [0:27:09, 0:27:11]: Great, how about yourself? Good evening, everyone. Well, thank you. [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: Good evening. [0:27:35, 0:27:36]: Yeah. [0:27:45, 0:27:52]: Everybody, um I'm helping um some one of the other board members join, so just stand by. We're about ready to get started. [0:28:32, 0:28:33]: I okay. [0:30:31, 0:30:45]: All right, Bob is uh gonna be joining us shortly and Mr. Sears is joining as well. And uh but I think we have enough here to get started with a quorum. So in the interest of everyone's time, Bob [0:30:46, 0:30:47]: Bob is hopping on. [0:30:48, 0:30:58]: See what else we have. See if I have anything else? And and Councilman Gantt, I've not heard from her either, but uh we'll go ahead and get started. So um let me um [0:30:59, 0:31:07]: Let me first uh thank you everybody for joining. And um I will m start the official webinar to make the public portion. [0:31:07, 0:31:13]: uh open. Uh Mr. Sears. Yeah. Welcome to the good evening, everybody. All right, very good. [0:31:14, 0:31:20]: No worries. And Art, I didn't get a chance to see you uh say hello before, but uh welcome. Thanks for joining the meeting. [0:31:22, 0:31:24]: Bob, I see you there as well. Sorry for the [0:31:25, 0:31:28]: Great. Okay. I'm gonna go ahead and open up the meeting in Zoom. [0:31:28, 0:31:31]: So the meeting is now um live. [0:31:32, 0:31:43]: Uh welcome everybody to the January uh Downtown Development Authority meeting. Um I'd like to uh welcome everyone and um start off with a roll call. Um [0:31:44, 0:31:46]: Bob, I know you had some trouble getting on with do you uh [0:31:47, 0:31:51]: Are you able to uh call the roll for everyone? Uh I I'll I'll try. Uh Arthur Christian. [0:31:52, 0:31:52]: Present. [0:31:54, 0:31:55]: Uh Roger Custom. [0:31:57, 0:31:58]: Present. [0:31:58, 0:31:59]: Letisha Gantt. [0:32:01, 0:32:02]: Keysha Gantt? [0:32:04, 0:32:06]: I don't see her on the webinar. [0:32:06, 0:32:08]: Uh Samiqua King [0:32:09, 0:32:10]: Present. [0:32:11, 0:32:12]: Barber Richardson. [0:32:14, 0:32:15]: Barber Richardson. [0:32:17, 0:32:20]: Maxwell Sears. Present, sorry, I was on mute. [0:32:20, 0:32:25]: Okay. All right. Okay. Barber Richardson is present. Maxwell Sears is present. [0:32:25, 0:32:27]: And Bob Swaggard is present. [0:32:28, 0:32:30]: That's one, two, three, four, five, six. [0:32:30, 0:32:31]: Uh six presents. [0:32:32, 0:32:38]: Indeed. And so with uh at least four here, then we do have a uh quorum. So [0:32:38, 0:32:51]: Um, first I want to thank everybody for your service to the DDA. I'm really excited about um and honored to serve as chair for this organization. And I will do my best to um hold these meetings in an [0:32:52, 0:33:00]: Uh orderly, informative, and efficient manner. Um, but this is a volunteer organization, and uh I for one do not pretend to know. [0:33:01, 0:33:07]: everything so I welcome your feedback if you have a uh another opinion [0:33:07, 0:33:10]: Um, about how we run the business of the DDA. [0:33:11, 0:33:18]: By all means, please let me know and let's support each other so we can um help bring positive change to uh Stockbridge. [0:33:18, 0:33:25]: Um so with that in mind, um we have a new uh uh board member, Samiqua King. [0:33:25, 0:33:45]: And uh we also have a new uh economic development director for the city of Stockbridge. And they are both here with us tonight. And uh so in the interest of getting to know each other a little bit, I'd like to briefly go around um and ask each board member to introduce themselves, just tell us a little bit about yourself and your connection to Stockbridge. [0:33:45, 0:33:46]: And [0:33:46, 0:33:48]: I think most importantly [0:33:48, 0:33:50]: Why do you choose to serve? [0:33:50, 0:33:54]: Um so with that in mind, I'll um I'll start. [0:33:54, 0:33:59]: Um I have uh owned a home here in Stockbridge since uh two thousand [0:33:59, 0:34:09]: uh nine and I also am co-owner and managing partner of a business called Burn Beautiful in the historic district of Stockbridge on MLK Senior Heritage Trail. [0:34:10, 0:34:19]: Um, my day job, I work for the state and um as in information technology. Um, I've been with them for 14 years. [0:34:19, 0:34:23]: I serve primarily because I want to see my city thrive. [0:34:24, 0:34:29]: Um I uh sure I want foot traffic in our our store in uh downtown. [0:34:29, 0:34:44]: Um, but I also want a place to enjoy as a homeowner, a nice place to enjoy good restaurants, unique shopping, arts, recreation, and so forth. So with that in mind, I want to do what's possible to um make that possible in our city. [0:34:45, 0:34:50]: So um I'll go around the room and I'll start next with um Mr. Christian. [0:34:51, 0:34:53]: Would you tell us about it yourself, please? Uh [0:34:53, 0:34:55]: Sure, sure. [0:34:55, 0:35:00]: I've uh been in Georgia since nineteen eighty seven, came down here from college and made it home. [0:35:01, 0:35:03]: Live in Stockbridge. [0:35:03, 0:35:04]: Um [0:35:04, 0:35:05]: A wife, when we've got one daughter. [0:35:06, 0:35:06]: Uh [0:35:07, 0:35:07]: For [0:35:09, 0:35:10]: All about uh [0:35:11, 0:35:13]: Seventeen years now, I believe, maybe a little more. [0:35:14, 0:35:15]: And [0:35:16, 0:35:18]: Uh, my day job I work for Fulton County government. I run [0:35:19, 0:35:19]: Their [0:35:19, 0:35:23]: First time home buyers uh down payment assistance program. [0:35:23, 0:35:24]: Which I love to do. [0:35:24, 0:35:27]: And the reason I serve is to [0:35:28, 0:35:29]: Um help out. [0:35:29, 0:35:30]: Two [0:35:30, 0:35:33]: shape uh policy and direction [0:35:33, 0:35:34]: Of the board. [0:35:35, 0:35:39]: In terms of bringing great economic development to the downtown area. [0:35:39, 0:35:40]: to help. [0:35:40, 0:35:42]: um augment the [0:35:43, 0:35:44]: Uh uh [0:35:44, 0:35:45]: The policies of the [0:35:46, 0:35:54]: City Council to make sure that you know we have a thriving downtown where it's truly a live, work, play environment. And uh that's where I serve. [0:35:55, 0:35:55]: Great. [0:35:56, 0:36:01]: Thank you for that. And thank you for keeping it brief. And I'd ask the rest of you to uh do the same if you could. [0:36:01, 0:36:02]: Um [0:36:02, 0:36:06]: Let's see, uh Simequa King, tell us about your best self and welcome. [0:36:06, 0:36:17]: Thank you. Again, my name is Samikle King. I my day job, I work for Delta Airlines. I'm a project coordinator, been there almost 12 years. [0:36:17, 0:36:23]: I've been a homeowner, homeowner here in Stockbridge for [0:36:23, 0:36:43]: um going on seven years and what made me want to get involved is I took the um citizens academy class in 2019 and once I saw how receptive the city was for wanting volunteers um that kind of made me want to get involved and seeing what's better [0:36:43, 0:36:44]: Yes, for my city. [0:36:46, 0:36:51]: Thank you. I've heard good things about the Citizens Academy program. Yeah. Check that out myself. [0:36:52, 0:36:53]: Um Barber? [0:36:54, 0:37:05]: Yes. Hi, I'm Barber Richardson and I am um a homeowner and business owner in the Stockbridge City. Well, unincorporated Stockbridge, but I've lived in Stockbridge for 17 years and [0:37:05, 0:37:07]: My business I uh opened up. [0:37:08, 0:37:13]: Mm, twelve years ago, and it's located right there in the heart of downtown, not too far from you, Roger. [0:37:14, 0:37:19]: So what made me want to serve is I've like I said, I've been here seventeen years and in that time [0:37:20, 0:37:22]: I have not seen uh I guess the type of [0:37:23, 0:37:25]: growth I would have liked to. [0:37:25, 0:37:41]: uh experience as far as I echo art sentiment with live work play. And so I was like, well, instead of, you know, kind of sitting back and complaining about it, find a way to get involved to be a part of the action that will move it forward. So that's why I uh volunteered to serve. [0:37:42, 0:37:43]: That's great. [0:37:43, 0:37:46]: Thank you. Uh all right, Mr. Sears, we'll go to you next. [0:37:49, 0:37:52]: Hello, hello, good evening. My name is Max Bazoous. [0:37:53, 0:37:57]: And I have a business in the heart of Stockbridge called Kire Counseling Service. [0:37:58, 0:38:01]: Uh, breaking the stigma of mental health in our community. [0:38:01, 0:38:07]: Uh, what draw me to submit is the vision and some of the things that I've seen. [0:38:07, 0:38:08]: Uh I [0:38:09, 0:38:13]: And I feel proud in terms of not just a volunteer, like Miss King said. [0:38:13, 0:38:15]: But the ability to make change. [0:38:15, 0:38:17]: Асоковина пописав стрі. [0:38:17, 0:38:19]: And there's so much to be done. [0:38:20, 0:38:24]: And I hope that as a board we can at least collectively get some of those things done. [0:38:25, 0:38:29]: Uh I think Sarkwich uh you know has so much to offer because it's right in the heart. [0:38:29, 0:38:32]: McDonald and all the other places, but we're doing something different. [0:38:32, 0:38:35]: So that's why, you know, like as volunteer, I don't like to waste my time. [0:38:36, 0:38:38]: Uh, cause I can do a lot other things. [0:38:39, 0:38:41]: I had to take people off the schedule to do this still. [0:38:42, 0:38:45]: So I hope as a board we can use the time wisely. [0:38:45, 0:38:47]: To make some changes for Stockwish. [0:38:48, 0:38:53]: Very good, thank you. And uh Mr. Swiger, Bob will s we'll we'll [0:38:53, 0:38:54]: We'll go to you next. [0:38:56, 0:39:00]: А майнез Боб Свайр. А в lived і Stockbridge for twenty years. [0:39:01, 0:39:02]: Um retired [0:39:02, 0:39:04]: uh this past uh july [0:39:05, 0:39:08]: retired as a uh compliance officer at Sun Trust Investment. [0:39:09, 0:39:09]: Services. [0:39:10, 0:39:10]: Uh [0:39:10, 0:39:13]: I describe that as stockbroker police. [0:39:13, 0:39:16]: Um, probably the easiest way to describe what I did. [0:39:17, 0:39:17]: Um [0:39:18, 0:39:23]: And prior to that I had a number of different uh different uh jobs and uh careers and so forth. [0:39:23, 0:39:24]: Um [0:39:25, 0:39:25]: I [0:39:26, 0:39:28]: Like I said, I've lived in Stockbridge for twenty years. [0:39:28, 0:39:34]: Uh I I got really kind of involved in what was going on in Stockbridge uh a couple of years ago. [0:39:34, 0:39:39]: Uh working with the Art Christian and also with uh Stockford City Council Member. [0:39:39, 0:39:43]: uh Yolanda Barber during the uh the move to uh [0:39:44, 0:39:46]: split the city of Stockbridge in half and create a new city out of it. [0:39:47, 0:39:49]: And so that was kind of my first uh [0:39:50, 0:39:51]: venture into [0:39:52, 0:39:52]: Um [0:39:53, 0:39:54]: You know. [0:39:54, 0:39:57]: Stockbridge politics or Stockbridge government or whatever. [0:39:57, 0:40:01]: And uh I've tried to try to to to stay involved. [0:40:01, 0:40:04]: А I think Stockbridge has a lot of potential. [0:40:04, 0:40:07]: Uh, really truly do think it has. [0:40:07, 0:40:09]: That there's a lot of things that could be done. [0:40:09, 0:40:11]: Uh and I enjoy living here. [0:40:12, 0:40:13]: And uh just wanna [0:40:13, 0:40:16]: My my goal is to do what I can to help um [0:40:17, 0:40:21]: you know, uh bring the the some of the master plan, some of the plans [0:40:21, 0:40:24]: Um for downtown development to um [0:40:25, 0:40:25]: Fruition. [0:40:28, 0:40:45]: Thank thank you, Bob. And so that's the DDA board. I'd like to turn it over to Mr. Peterson. Alan, would you uh would you mind telling us a little bit about yourself and uh maybe your background as far as uh how you came to the city of Stockbridge? [0:40:48, 0:40:51]: Sure, sure. Um good evening everyone. I [0:40:52, 0:40:59]: Happy to be here. Um, I'm Alan Peterson. I'm new to the city of Stockbridge. I'm the new economic development director. I started uh two weeks ago. [0:41:00, 0:41:14]: Uh so still somewhat getting settled in. I've been in economic development for uh well over 10 years now, uh starting in Houston, Texas, and uh the surrounding areas around Houston. I um moved to moved back to Georgia and [0:41:15, 0:41:20]: in 2015 and I became the uh downtown development authority director. [0:41:20, 0:41:25]: uh for the city of Stone Mountain. So I'm very familiar with um the DDA and [0:41:26, 0:41:45]: and how the DDA works. I was the DDA director before I came here for Stockbridge, but uh my role here will just be um a liaison between the DDA and the city. And um it's it's it's my role to just uh make sure you all have everything that you need from us, the city. And I look forward to [0:41:45, 0:41:54]: uh learning about you all and and what you all's uh mission and and goals are and what you all plan to do so that we can all work to bet work together. [0:41:54, 0:41:57]: To advance the city as far as economic development is concerned. [0:41:57, 0:42:01]: And uh Roger and I spoke last week. We had a great conversation and um [0:42:01, 0:42:04]: I'm excited to to be here for this first meeting. [0:42:05, 0:42:10]: Awesome. Thank you. We're really uh really uh excited to have you and I think we're on a strong footing for the year. [0:42:11, 0:42:27]: I also neglected to mention uh Ms. Vanessa Holliday. She is the uh city clerk for the city of Stockbridge, and she has very graciously um offered to uh help with the recording secretary um for this meeting. Uh Vanessa, you wanna tell us a little bit about your background? [0:42:28, 0:42:33]: Um Vanessa Holliday. I am serving ca serving in the capacity of city clerk. [0:42:34, 0:42:37]: I have been with the city. I came on board in two thousand nine. [0:42:38, 0:42:39]: I had a short break. [0:42:40, 0:42:42]: Um for two years, returned to the city. [0:42:42, 0:42:44]: In two thousand and fourteen. [0:42:45, 0:42:47]: And have been in uh the role of city clerk since then. [0:42:48, 0:42:53]: I enjoy um working with the boards uh specifically. [0:42:53, 0:42:54]: I [0:42:54, 0:42:58]: And one of those who wants to see everything gel and see something. [0:42:59, 0:43:03]: uh mushroom from the ground up. So I am, you know, I look anything that you all need. [0:43:04, 0:43:20]: from the city, reach out to me. I am open to if I can't find it, I will try to find out who can assist you. But I am definitely an advocate for the boards of the city because I recognize that you all are volunteers. [0:43:20, 0:43:23]: And that you are taking your time. [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: Um to help the city. [0:43:25, 0:43:29]: So any way I can be of assistance to you, please just reach out to me. I'm happy to help. [0:43:30, 0:43:32]: Thank you. And I can [0:43:33, 0:43:50]: personally attest to that's a sincere offer and you've helped me out in many, many ways, Vanessa. So thank you for all the support you've given us and for being here with us tonight. So all right, we will move on to our agenda. So the uh first order of business is to approve today's meeting agenda. [0:43:50, 0:44:03]: Um the first thing I'll mention is that there was an error in the uh listing of the uh board members and and the titles. We have corrected that in the version that I sent out to the board. [0:44:03, 0:44:04]: uh earlier today [0:44:05, 0:44:11]: Are there um any other um edits needed to today's meeting? [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: agenda. [0:44:14, 0:44:16]: Assuming everybody's had a chance to look at it. [0:44:20, 0:44:29]: I am hearing none. Um there is one item I will ask that we hold for a later meeting, which is the legal review. [0:44:29, 0:44:35]: Um well we'll partially go over this. We'll leave it on the agenda, but uh our attorney McCray [0:44:35, 0:44:53]: is not going to be join cannot join us this evening, but we will touch on that topic uh a little bit. But if we need to get into uh more detail, we may have to uh push that out for uh another meeting. But um uh so I'll um I'll hear a motion uh I'd like to hear a motion for [0:44:53, 0:44:59]: Accept uh uh uh accepting today's uh agenda as sent out earlier today from my email. [0:45:01, 0:45:01]: Yeah. [0:45:03, 0:45:04]: Remember. [0:45:07, 0:45:11]: I move that we accept today's gender as uh as amended. [0:45:13, 0:45:13]: All right. [0:45:14, 0:45:15]: A second. [0:45:15, 0:45:20]: Thank you, Art. Um, all right, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? [0:45:23, 0:45:36]: I'm not hearing any. So um I will ask Mr. Schweiger to call out the um do a roll call for the vote to accept today's uh meeting agenda as sent today. Okay. [0:45:36, 0:45:39]: Uh w would you please signify uh other [0:45:39, 0:45:41]: Yes or no, I guess. [0:45:41, 0:45:41]: Um [0:45:42, 0:45:44]: Uh Roger Custon. [0:45:44, 0:45:45]: Yes. [0:45:46, 0:45:48]: Uh Arthur Christian. [0:45:49, 0:45:49]: Yes. [0:45:51, 0:45:52]: Barber Richardson. [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Yes. [0:45:53, 0:45:54]: Next we'll see her. [0:45:56, 0:45:57]: Actual Seers. [0:45:58, 0:45:58]: Yeah, mute. [0:46:00, 0:46:01]: Yes. [0:46:01, 0:46:02]: Thank you. [0:46:02, 0:46:04]: Uh Bob Swagert, yes. [0:46:05, 0:46:06]: Send me quaquine. [0:46:06, 0:46:06]: Yes. [0:46:07, 0:46:07]: Mm. [0:46:08, 0:46:08]: Um [0:46:09, 0:46:29]: Thank you. And that sounds like it's unanimous from those who are present. Thank you, Bob. Um, I'm also checking the attendees. I don't see Councilwoman Gantt as of yet, but I'll keep an eye on that. Uh we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, which is to approve the December 15th uh meeting minutes. That was also sent via email. I [0:46:29, 0:46:38]: I uh hope that you all have had a chance to review it. Um, Ms. King, I don't know if you got a copy of that, so you may wanna abstain from this because you really. [0:46:39, 0:46:40]: weren't part of that meeting. [0:46:41, 0:46:44]: Um so um any um [0:46:45, 0:46:50]: So I'll I'll hear a motion to accept the uh December fifteenth meeting minutes as sent via email about a week later. [0:46:52, 0:46:55]: I move I move that we accept December fifteenth. [0:46:55, 0:46:56]: Go ahead, Bob. [0:46:57, 0:46:58]: Uh I second. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Very good. [0:47:00, 0:47:03]: And let's call a roll to uh accept the meeting minutes. [0:47:03, 0:47:06]: Okay, uh Roger Christ Roger Custom. [0:47:07, 0:47:08]: I'll say yes. [0:47:08, 0:47:08]: Okay. [0:47:09, 0:47:10]: Uh Arthur Christian. [0:47:11, 0:47:12]: Yes. [0:47:13, 0:47:14]: Barber Richardson? [0:47:14, 0:47:14]: Yes. [0:47:15, 0:47:16]: Actual Seers. [0:47:16, 0:47:17]: Yes. [0:47:17, 0:47:19]: Up swagger, yes. [0:47:19, 0:47:20]: So Nicole King. [0:47:20, 0:47:21]: Blabstain. [0:47:22, 0:47:23]: You abstain, okay? [0:47:28, 0:47:29]: And [0:47:30, 0:47:37]: We called on everyone, right? So I think that's uh that's also unanimous. So okay, we can move on to uh the um [0:47:38, 0:47:46]: The next item on our agenda, we've done the introduction. So next item is the uh treasure update. Um Barber, we'll turn the floor over to you. [0:47:47, 0:47:50]: Okay, um I am meeting with [0:47:50, 0:47:52]: Former chair um [0:47:52, 0:47:58]: This Friday to get everything officially transferred over. So right now it's more of an informal report. [0:47:59, 0:48:12]: I do have bank balances for the last time, which is still consistent because we haven't had any um expenses. And our operating account right now, there's uh$97,404 and 61 cents. [0:48:13, 0:48:33]: In our facade grant account, there's$44,972.05. There is a note that I've received from the former treasurer that we need to transfer$50,000 of the operating funds over to the facade grant. But as I've stated, I will meet with her on Friday to get [0:48:33, 0:48:39]: get everything officially transferred over and I will be able to speak to that a little bit more. Um [0:48:40, 0:48:41]: During our next meeting. [0:48:43, 0:48:45]: Also, uh any questions about the bank? [0:48:45, 0:48:46]: Balances. [0:48:47, 0:48:48]: It's been okay. [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: Vanessa? [0:48:50, 0:48:57]: Did you say fifty one five one cents or sixty one six one cents? For the operating account, sixty-one cents. [0:48:59, 0:48:59]: Yeah. [0:49:00, 0:49:01]: Yeah. [0:49:01, 0:49:02]: Fix. [0:49:03, 0:49:05]: Sixty one. Six one. Okay. [0:49:05, 0:49:06]: Thank you. [0:49:06, 0:49:09]: No problem. I have a I have a quick question. [0:49:09, 0:49:09]: Yes. [0:49:10, 0:49:13]: And the facade grant, what is that? Uh I know I'cause I wasn't [0:49:13, 0:49:20]: I mean, I'm new at this again. Uh the facade gun. How's that used? That used to help business in Stockbridge or how's that how's that used? [0:49:21, 0:49:31]: Yes, I think Miss I think uh Mr. Christian's gonna speak to that a little later, but but yes, the facade grant is is basically a a grant that business owners in the downtown development area can apply for. [0:49:32, 0:49:37]: And uh currently as it stands right now, reimbursement is up to five thousand dollars. [0:49:37, 0:49:42]: So for example, if a business owner spent ten thousand to improve the facade. [0:49:42, 0:49:53]: the aesthetics of the outside of their business and it meets, you know, the facade grant criteria, then the city will DDA will reimburse the business up to$5,000. [0:49:54, 0:49:55]: Uh. [0:49:55, 0:49:56]: Much is gracious. [0:49:57, 0:49:58]: Yes, okay. [0:49:59, 0:50:09]: Um and so along with that, um as as the new treasurer, I would like to present propose to the board that uh basically I would like to um to make my job. [0:50:10, 0:50:27]: a lot more efficient to use an online accounting system uh to keep track of all of our income and expenses, to you know generate nice, beautiful reports and all the things. And right now it's a system that I use in my current practice as a CPA and it's uh called Zero X-E-R-O. [0:50:27, 0:50:28]: Um [0:50:29, 0:50:32]: So right now the cost of that is I think about thirty dollars a month. [0:50:32, 0:50:34]: Bill directly to the city. [0:50:34, 0:50:41]: Um, to the extent that we need more functionality, like if we want to take advantage of being able to do uh [0:50:41, 0:50:45]: expense claims because right now I believe that the the way the rules are written. [0:50:46, 0:50:47]: Із вині ту. [0:50:48, 0:50:51]: Uh, the treasurer and the chairman to approve invoices. [0:50:51, 0:50:59]: So um there is the ability to upgrade to a package that's about sixty dollars a month that would allow you to have that feature electronically. [0:50:59, 0:51:05]: Um I don't know that we need to do that initially because we don't really have that many invoices coming through. [0:51:06, 0:51:12]: Um that will, in my opinion, substantiate the additional cost. But at the minimum, we do need this, I think. [0:51:13, 0:51:21]: uh the system would be very helpful um for accountability, transparency, efficiency in terms of maintaining the financial records of the DDA. [0:51:25, 0:51:32]: So I'm taking that as a motion to um allocate some of our um funds to [0:51:33, 0:51:36]: To purchase the uh zero accounting software. [0:51:36, 0:51:48]: Yes. And this ongoing monthly subscription. So you can cancel any time with a one month uh basically with a one month notice. But I guess if that needs to be put to the floor as a motion to vote on, then yeah. [0:51:48, 0:51:49]: Then um [0:51:49, 0:51:51]: That's that's what I would like. [0:51:51, 0:51:52]: All right. [0:51:52, 0:52:02]: So um I Barber and I have talked about this a little bit. So I l let me um I I'll go ahead and second the motion, but I do have some uh discussion I'd like to go over. [0:52:03, 0:52:15]: Um so I'll go ahead and pose my question. So I think first of all, the entry level is probably I would I would suggest we start with the entry level subscription. And if we feel like we need to upgrade, we can bring it back to the board for a decision. [0:52:15, 0:52:16]: And um [0:52:17, 0:52:19]: That was basically it. [0:52:19, 0:52:30]: So I mean if you could if you could say what amount you think we would, you know, say maybe a not to exceed amount as far as what we would be approving today. So we're clear on what we're voting on. [0:52:30, 0:52:33]: Not to see thirty one dollars a month. [0:52:33, 0:52:34]: Per month. [0:52:34, 0:52:35]: Okay. [0:52:36, 0:52:41]: And that's the good thing. Like you know you can always upgrade and downgrade at any point in time. You're never locked in. [0:52:41, 0:52:45]: Um, you know, you there's that flexibility is always there. [0:52:45, 0:52:46]: All right. [0:52:47, 0:52:55]: So we have a motion and a second for um accounting software at$31 a month to help manage the books. Um any other discussion? [0:52:56, 0:53:02]: Uh one uh could it be just paid the whole twelve months instead of every month looking for a bill? Well it'll be easy that way. [0:53:03, 0:53:13]: Well, it doesn't quite s I don't think it works that way. I can double check and every comp every company take every company take the money in advance. Well like I said, it's a month it's a month. [0:53:14, 0:53:20]: block them on subscription and I don't uh mm I can double check but for the sake of moving the vote forward. [0:53:20, 0:53:26]: Is there a way I can modify that so that we don't I don't have to, you know, wait on a decision to [0:53:26, 0:53:37]: to do that, but promise to bring an update about how if we can pay an annual fee. Right. Yeah. You don't have the model. Yeah. Okay. That's just not another waste that every month you get something. I mean it just, you know. [0:53:37, 0:53:38]: Yeah. [0:53:40, 0:53:54]: 'Cause who'll the bill come to? Will it come to you and then we pay you every month thirty one dollars? Uh oh, good question. Actually, no, the the way that it works is it's it's actually drafted. It's actually uh either built to a card or a bank account. So it's like the auto pay. [0:53:54, 0:53:55]: But [0:53:57, 0:54:04]: So what what it comes straight from the treasury account or still person? The operating account. [0:54:04, 0:54:06]: Okay. So the vo the vote here kind of [0:54:07, 0:54:13]: functions as that approval that we would need if we were gonna be getting a monthly invoice in hand. [0:54:13, 0:54:21]: So it just it's either if there's a card associated with the account or if it's just right out of the account, the bank account itself, it's just an auto pay each month. [0:54:24, 0:54:35]: And and Barber, do you know if that would serve both accounts that we manage, both the operating account and to serve that and the facade grant account? All right. Any other discussion or questions? [0:54:38, 0:54:45]: I am not seeing anyone. So um uh Mr. Schwigert, if you'll uh be ready to cut a roll call for the vote on whether [0:54:46, 0:54:49]: uh to allow um up to thirty one dollars a month [0:54:50, 0:54:54]: Expense for accounting software called zero. [0:54:54, 0:54:57]: Uh subscribed annually if it allows it. [0:54:58, 0:55:00]: And uh so we'll go down to roll call. [0:55:01, 0:55:01]: Okay. [0:55:02, 0:55:03]: Oh [0:55:04, 0:55:06]: Roger Custon. I'll vote yes. [0:55:07, 0:55:08]: Uh Arthur Christian. [0:55:09, 0:55:10]: Yes. [0:55:11, 0:55:12]: Barber Richardson. [0:55:12, 0:55:13]: Yes. [0:55:13, 0:55:15]: Actual Sears. [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: Yes. [0:55:17, 0:55:20]: Uh Bob Swagger Well, yes. Uh Senequa King. [0:55:20, 0:55:21]: Yes. [0:55:22, 0:55:23]: All right. [0:55:23, 0:55:24]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:55:25, 0:55:25]: Thank you. [0:55:25, 0:55:27]: Excuse me. Um [0:55:28, 0:55:32]: And and um any other updates for the group, uh Barber? [0:55:33, 0:55:34]: As far as treasure [0:55:35, 0:55:36]: No. [0:55:37, 0:55:43]: All right, we'll move on to the next item of the agenda. That's uh for you, Bob. Um uh updates from the treasure. [0:55:44, 0:55:46]: I mean the secretary, excuse me. [0:55:46, 0:55:49]: Okay. Um I met with um Roger [0:55:50, 0:55:58]: uh last week and he um transferred the uh the the the paper files of the um D DA records and also the um [0:55:59, 0:56:00]: Uh that's not drive. [0:56:01, 0:56:03]: And so I um I have that. [0:56:05, 0:56:06]: Great. [0:56:07, 0:56:09]: Any other updates you want to mention while you have the floor? [0:56:11, 0:56:18]: All right. Um I'll mention a couple more things. I also gave a copy of those records to uh Vanessa, the city clerk. [0:56:18, 0:56:34]: And there's a little bit more work to do as far as the transitioning as um there is some paper files that are at City Hall right now that uh I need to go through and probably do that with Bob at some point and get I might ideally we'd like to get that. [0:56:34, 0:56:47]: um copied and digitized and um and then so we'll keep you updated on that. Uh Mr. Sears, I see you your hand up. Also as uh as the new chair, I would like a copy of that too, so that if you know it available. [0:56:48, 0:56:51]: I can know what you give him because you know nobody C C me or [0:56:51, 0:56:52]: No, me on it. [0:56:53, 0:56:59]: So I'm of that to be included. So you can make it in whatever is there, then I'll leave I'll know what's going on also. [0:57:00, 0:57:05]: I will take that as an action item to send you a copy of the files that I shared with both Bob and Vanessa. [0:57:06, 0:57:07]: Thank you. [0:57:07, 0:57:08]: All right, very good. Thank you for that. [0:57:09, 0:57:16]: All right, we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, which is the uh facade grant. So uh Art, you've got the floor. [0:57:17, 0:57:23]: Uh yes. And actually I don't have much of an update. I just um but I'm glad uh Mr. Peterson is on. Uh [0:57:24, 0:57:27]: Uh welcome aboard. Uh you and Miss King, both of you. [0:57:27, 0:57:29]: And I do Mr. Peace, I do have a question regarding [0:57:30, 0:57:36]: The facade grant, um, specifically there's one business owner who has performed some work. [0:57:37, 0:57:51]: in which both the Main Street and Downtown Development Authority had been involved at one point in time under um some different with different a different board member in terms of monitoring [0:57:51, 0:57:54]: The progress and the payout reimbursement of that grant. [0:57:55, 0:57:57]: And um my question is um [0:57:58, 0:58:00]: In previous meetings I had mentioned that I didn't want to [0:58:01, 0:58:05]: Duplicate my efforts, but wanted to uh do it in concert with. [0:58:05, 0:58:07]: Um Main street. [0:58:07, 0:58:08]: Um [0:58:08, 0:58:10]: But but unfortunately we haven't. [0:58:11, 0:58:18]: had a Main Street representative on a board meeting probably in about three or four meetings now. So my question is, um [0:58:18, 0:58:19]: Does Main Street re [0:58:20, 0:58:22]: port under you or is that a separate [0:58:23, 0:58:25]: Entity and even if it is separate. [0:58:25, 0:58:33]: Um, is there a way that we can coordinate so that um I can meet with them and we can talk about how to move forward? [0:58:34, 0:58:41]: Um, with the reimbursement. I know there were some particular things that were needed to be ironed out, and I just want to make sure that I'm not going behind something that's already been done. [0:58:42, 0:58:46]: Right. Um I actually had my my hand raised earlier. [0:58:46, 0:58:57]: And I dropped it when I realized the facade grant was on the agenda later on. I did have a question about the facade grant, but uh to answer your question, yes, Main Street is uh under the [0:58:57, 0:58:59]: Um economic development. [0:58:59, 0:59:00]: Department. [0:59:00, 0:59:01]: And um [0:59:02, 0:59:05]: We'll we we need to talk about the facade grant. Um [0:59:05, 0:59:07]: So we can, you know. [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Figure that out. [0:59:08, 0:59:12]: Um and I have questions about the facade grant as well. Um [0:59:13, 0:59:18]: So I I I know we're on the um January one through December thirty one budget cycle. [0:59:19, 0:59:21]: Is the facade grant on that same budget cycle? [0:59:23, 0:59:27]: That's my understanding, yes. Okay, okay. So um [0:59:28, 0:59:30]: So um I I take it that we [0:59:31, 0:59:36]: Since it's it's only January, we haven't received any facade grant applications for twenty twenty one yet. Is that correct? [0:59:38, 0:59:40]: That's correct. Okay. Um [0:59:40, 0:59:42]: So do we have any [0:59:42, 0:59:53]: uh applications that have requested to carry over to 2021 that didn't finish the work in 2020 because of COVID or any other issue that might have might have come up. [0:59:55, 0:59:58]: I don't know. I have not received any requests for carry over. [0:59:59, 1:00:04]: However, it has been my understanding that there have been some expenses that have not been reimbursed. [1:00:04, 1:00:07]: Okay. And and so one of the things that I um [1:00:08, 1:00:11]: discussed with the board previously and we did receive a [1:00:12, 1:00:14]: copy of um [1:00:14, 1:00:18]: Some D VA policies uh from our board attorney. [1:00:19, 1:00:19]: Um [1:00:19, 1:00:31]: that I'd love to share with you um or have shared with you so that um even with you know your experience you may have something that you know could add some some depth to that and some some definition to it. [1:00:31, 1:00:33]: Okay, so it it it sounds like [1:00:33, 1:00:34]: Um [1:00:35, 1:00:39]: Well let me it it sounds like the process just needs some iron out and some [1:00:40, 1:00:41]: Some concrete. [1:00:42, 1:00:44]: methods of getting these reimbursements out. [1:00:44, 1:00:45]: Correct. [1:00:45, 1:00:47]: Okay. Um [1:00:48, 1:00:53]: So has how many people, how many applicants from 2020 have not received their funding? [1:00:54, 1:00:54]: Do you know? [1:00:56, 1:01:01]: I I believe it's one, but Barber you can go ahead and and speak to that. [1:01:01, 1:01:13]: I did speak with uh Mr. Peterson. I do uh we have a newly created function as a liaison on the Main Street board and I serve as as the liaison. So I did speak to um [1:01:14, 1:01:16]: Miss Braggs about that briefly. [1:01:16, 1:01:17]: Um [1:01:18, 1:01:35]: There was one business owner, I'm not really sure when his work began, if it was twenty nineteen or twenty twenty. Um, the issue with him being reimbursed is that I guess there's been some turnover on this board. He the business owner is stating that he had given the receipts already to a board member who [1:01:35, 1:01:40]: no longer on the board. So I don't even know how we move forward from that. But [1:01:40, 1:01:42]: To answer your question specifically. [1:01:43, 1:01:45]: I don't know if his project [1:01:46, 1:01:50]: is carrying on from twenty twenty or if this project was actually in twenty nineteen. [1:01:50, 1:01:53]: Oh, okay. So it could be from twenty nine two years ago. [1:01:55, 1:01:56]: Oh okay. Um [1:01:57, 1:02:01]: Yeah. Because COVID was COVID had it what March twenty twenty. [1:02:01, 1:02:14]: March of twenty twenty is is when everything schools and everything. Well, unless he got it all done, unless he did everything the first two months of twenty twenty, this very well could be a carryover from even a prior year. [1:02:15, 1:02:16]: Okay. Um [1:02:18, 1:02:19]: All right. Uh well [1:02:20, 1:02:24]: I have experience running a facade grant program. So um it's [1:02:25, 1:02:26]: Uh my opinion that [1:02:27, 1:02:28]: Um [1:02:28, 1:02:29]: The board would have to vote. [1:02:29, 1:02:30]: On whether to [1:02:31, 1:02:32]: You know, move that. [1:02:32, 1:02:35]: That application over to twenty twenty one. [1:02:36, 1:02:38]: But that's that's up that's up to you all. [1:02:38, 1:02:39]: Uh but [1:02:39, 1:02:44]: From listening now, I w I I think that we just need to make sure that [1:02:45, 1:02:45]: The [1:02:46, 1:02:52]: Well, I I first want to ask what's what's the process, you know, after the after the application is turned in. [1:02:52, 1:02:54]: Uh, what's the process? [1:02:55, 1:03:05]: Um, so that the applicant does get the funding. What's what's that process? I think that was Mr. Christian's point that we needed some oh okay. [1:03:06, 1:03:07]: Yes. Yeah. [1:03:08, 1:03:08]: Okay. [1:03:10, 1:03:14]: There was nothing that I saw that was concrete in writing. [1:03:15, 1:03:23]: Okay, so that's when I request from our T Yes. Okay, we need to put that put that in in um in writing and have the vo have the board vote on it. [1:03:23, 1:03:26]: And put something online so that applicants know exactly. [1:03:27, 1:03:31]: uh what to do. Also what is the um in twenty twenty [1:03:32, 1:03:36]: Does anyone know how many applications were received? [1:03:38, 1:03:42]: None that I know. None. Oh, so no applications were received in twenty twenty. [1:03:42, 1:03:44]: So we need to improve the marketing. [1:03:44, 1:03:46]: Mm-hmm. [1:03:47, 1:03:48]: Definitely. Okay. [1:03:48, 1:03:50]: All right. Um [1:03:50, 1:03:52]: Got you. Okay, so [1:03:52, 1:03:55]: Um just marketing in a concrete [1:03:55, 1:03:59]: Process. Yes. Okay. Correct. What is the [1:04:01, 1:04:02]: What is the budget? [1:04:04, 1:04:04]: For the grant. [1:04:08, 1:04:10]: Is it forty five thousand? [1:04:11, 1:04:14]: That that sounds about right. We'd have to look at our records, yes. [1:04:14, 1:04:15]: Right now we have [1:04:16, 1:04:19]: Unspent funds, but I believe the annual. [1:04:20, 1:04:21]: Forty five or [1:04:21, 1:04:22]: Forty five or fifty thousand. Oh [1:04:24, 1:04:24]: Somewhere in there. [1:04:25, 1:04:29]: Think the annual is fifty thousand. Is fifty up currently as [1:04:30, 1:04:31]: Currently there's um [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: Miss Richardson mentioned. [1:04:33, 1:04:37]: You have you have almost forty five thousand in the account now. [1:04:37, 1:04:41]: And um former director mentioned that fifty thousand [1:04:41, 1:04:45]: needed chairm chairperson needs to be moved from operating [1:04:45, 1:04:46]: To [1:04:47, 1:04:50]: The uh facade grant. So basically it would be a little less than [1:04:50, 1:04:52]: A hundred thousand. A hundred thousand. [1:04:52, 1:04:53]: Right. [1:04:53, 1:04:55]: Ninety four thousand dollars. Um [1:04:56, 1:04:59]: So there there will be ninety four thousand in twenty twenty one. [1:05:00, 1:05:02]: Correct. Is that what you're saying? [1:05:03, 1:05:03]: Okay. [1:05:04, 1:05:06]: But keeping in mind that we still have to reimburse. [1:05:08, 1:05:08]: The uh [1:05:09, 1:05:10]: Just that one owner. [1:05:10, 1:05:13]: But he probably a max of five thousand. And how much uh [1:05:15, 1:05:16]: Max of five thousand. [1:05:16, 1:05:20]: That's my understanding is that the facade grant maxed out at five thousand. [1:05:20, 1:05:21]: Um [1:05:24, 1:05:25]: Yeah. [1:05:26, 1:05:30]: So a business owner would have had to incur ten thousand dollars. [1:05:31, 1:05:37]: Right. If they incurred at least ten thousand dollars in expenses, then we reimburse fifty percent up to five thousand. [1:05:43, 1:05:50]: And my just my understanding with that is that the that's within the DDA's discretion that if we wanted to revisit that. [1:05:50, 1:05:55]: and and kind of, you know, modify that criteria and and expense threshold that we could. [1:05:57, 1:06:00]: Okay. Okay. Okay. [1:06:02, 1:06:03]: Miss Halliday. [1:06:03, 1:06:04]: Chair Custom. [1:06:05, 1:06:13]: I just wanted to clarify these numbers to record them properly. I know that going back to the operating budget. [1:06:14, 1:06:15]: Um [1:06:17, 1:06:19]: It was mentioned. [1:06:22, 1:06:25]: That there was ninety seven thousand four oh four. [1:06:25, 1:06:26]: Sixty one [1:06:26, 1:06:33]: And that there was an additional forty four thousand nine seventy two oh five in the facade grant account. [1:06:34, 1:06:34]: But [1:06:35, 1:06:40]: What I just heard someone say something about there will be ninety thousand in facade. [1:06:41, 1:06:43]: Which means for fifty thousand. [1:06:44, 1:06:48]: I have a note that we need to transfer fifty thousand out of operating. [1:06:48, 1:06:50]: Into the facade. [1:06:51, 1:06:56]: So fifty out of the ninety-seven thousand that's currently in operating. [1:06:57, 1:07:00]: It's going to go to the facade grant account. [1:07:14, 1:07:15]: Okay, thank you. [1:07:18, 1:07:21]: Any other discussion, Art or Barber on that? [1:07:24, 1:07:28]: No, just that I I welcome us to get together as as soon as possible, you know, to get started on this. [1:07:29, 1:07:31]: Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm going to [1:07:32, 1:07:33]: Um [1:07:33, 1:07:35]: Shoot you all, shoot you an email. [1:07:36, 1:07:39]: So we can get the conversation rolling. It's my goal. [1:07:40, 1:07:40]: Um [1:07:41, 1:07:42]: To have [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: The the process voted on approved for next meeting. [1:07:46, 1:07:47]: Um so that [1:07:48, 1:07:53]: We can start getting applications in about February, March. [1:07:53, 1:07:57]: And I'll email you uh marketing suggestions and [1:07:57, 1:08:00]: Um just process suggestions as well. [1:08:01, 1:08:21]: Thank you. Thank you. And and and Mr. Peterson, I'll I'll add a couple of points on that discussion. Um, my business was the first um beneficiary of the facade grant. So I was familiar with being on the receiving end of that. Um it was it, you know, we were first, so I know it was a little bit of a convoluted process then and it does need some smoothing out. [1:08:21, 1:08:41]: One of the a couple of points on the open application. One of the nuances there is that this individual's facade involves a, I believe, a painted sign on the side of the building, and that sort of overlaps. Our facade grant does not cover the expense for a sign. [1:08:41, 1:08:45]: But since the sign is part of the building exterior and part of the painting. [1:08:45, 1:08:50]: They're kind of meshed in this particular case, as I understand it. So I [1:08:50, 1:08:56]: Part of it is um the hold up of the payment of the signed fee for the city. [1:08:57, 1:09:01]: And I would be, you know, I would I would welcome if the board would consider [1:09:01, 1:09:02]: Um [1:09:03, 1:09:07]: funding that portion of the fee in this particular case because it's a bit of a [1:09:07, 1:09:12]: you know it's a bit of an unusual circumstance where the sign is part of the facade. [1:09:12, 1:09:17]: Um and maybe we consider modifying the rules to include that. [1:09:17, 1:09:27]: uh maybe any fees associated with the facade as part of the scope that we would consider as part of the grant. So that's that's one item to kind of put in there. [1:09:27, 1:09:40]: The other um is the I believe the the paperwork that was received by me as secret I was serving as secretary before, you know, then in the previous year the with the others that were working on this particular um application. [1:09:41, 1:10:01]: We did not, I did not see any actual receipts. The paperwork I did receive were um proposals and bids, but not actual receipts of the work done. So the expectation would be that we, you know, the business owner would show, I paid these vendors, it's offering clear. [1:10:01, 1:10:03]: [4204.4, 4206.2]: Uh wanting to get reimbursed for. [1:10:06, 1:10:13]: And I don't believe I have not seen evidence as secretary or in my service to the board yet that that has happened. [1:10:13, 1:10:17]: Um, but I just wanted to clear those two items that we may want to consider. [1:10:17, 1:10:26]: the signed fee to the city as part of the reimbursement, maybe as a special case for this application, and what we've received thus far. [1:10:28, 1:10:32]: And uh Kira Harris Bra Braggs has been really [1:10:32, 1:10:34]: helping us with [1:10:34, 1:10:37]: both mainstream program marketing the um [1:10:37, 1:10:41]: the facade grant and working with this particular individual. [1:10:46, 1:10:50]: All right, any other I'll move on to the next item on the agenda if there's no other discussion on that. [1:10:52, 1:10:53]: Um [1:10:53, 1:11:08]: And I'll add uh Mr. Peterson, we would I would I would if if the if if the board's okay with it, I would add as a standing item to the agenda city staff updates to which you know I would name you as the um presenter for that portion of our meeting. [1:11:09, 1:11:10]: Going forward. [1:11:12, 1:11:27]: Um and then the last item is the uh we don't I don't see that uh councilwoman Gantt has joined us for this meeting, just double checking. So I'll move out we'll skip the uh city council updates and um we'll move to the main street advisory updo updates. Uh [1:11:28, 1:11:31]: Barber, you're serving as liaison. Would you like any updates for the group? [1:11:32, 1:11:33]: Yeah, mute. [1:11:33, 1:11:40]: Okay, yeah, there we go. All right, so no major updates, but one thing that I did want to bring to the board, um, and this is on [1:11:40, 1:11:43]: Perfect timing on the heels of the facade for that discussion. [1:11:43, 1:11:51]: Um, one of the things that I I believe that Main Street was very interested in doing is is getting some sort of design standards for the downtown area. [1:11:52, 1:11:56]: And as such, um, would be very happy to have [1:11:56, 1:11:57]: To form a steering committee. [1:11:58, 1:12:04]: that consists of both, you know, Main Street board members as well as DDA board members. So I [1:12:05, 1:12:17]: I personally think that's a great idea and I wanted to bring that to the board to get you, you know, everyone's buy-in on um agreeing to be a part of that process because uh apparently we don't really have any [1:12:17, 1:12:18]: Uh [1:12:18, 1:12:23]: standard or you know any type of design standards for our area. [1:12:23, 1:12:40]: Um, so I think as we continue to move forward this year with the facade grant and really pushing that out and marketing it and hoping to get business owners to get excited about that, um, that we can also think about how we want our downtown to look. [1:12:40, 1:12:44]: Um and as such create some sort of standards. [1:12:44, 1:12:45]: Um [1:12:46, 1:12:49]: You know, to to maintain that or to get that. [1:12:49, 1:12:50]: So [1:12:50, 1:12:54]: I don't know if that needs to be a vote or if this is just a point of discussion. [1:12:55, 1:13:00]: Um, that I could take back to Cure and the rest of the board said, Hey, DDA's on board, you know. [1:13:01, 1:13:05]: We would love to be part of the steering committee. Um, here are the two or three representatives from the board. [1:13:06, 1:13:08]: Uh who wanna do that. [1:13:08, 1:13:09]: How do we move forward? [1:13:11, 1:13:13]: All right, any discussion on that? [1:13:17, 1:13:25]: I for one will be happy to serve on a steering committee for the design standards if it if you know if we decide to take that approach. [1:13:25, 1:13:28]: And welcome others to participate as well. [1:13:29, 1:13:41]: And that's actually an item on the uh agenda for the uh goals discussion, which we're coming up to next, uh DDA priority. So we can talk a little bit more about that as a potential priority. [1:13:43, 1:13:47]: Yeah, I think it's a great idea'cause, you know, Roger, even in your building, you know, we you know [1:13:48, 1:13:53]: Everyone could it it it already looks like that, you know, to some extent, right? Everyone kinda has their own. [1:13:54, 1:13:54]: Yeah. [1:13:55, 1:13:56]: Look. Right. [1:13:57, 1:14:04]: So you know, we we we you know, we have the amphitheater coming, we have a lot of great things going on and so I think this is a good time. [1:14:05, 1:14:06]: I agree. [1:14:07, 1:14:10]: Any other updates? I I agree. That sounds like a great idea. [1:14:10, 1:14:13]: Oh sure. I was just saying I that sounds like a great idea to uh [1:14:13, 1:14:15]: Have something a more uniform look. [1:14:16, 1:14:16]: And um [1:14:17, 1:14:17]: Input from [1:14:18, 1:14:20]: You know, Main Street D DA and of course [1:14:20, 1:14:23]: You know, the public and business owners. For sure. Yeah. [1:14:24, 1:14:24]: Yeah. [1:14:25, 1:14:27]: All right, anything else from the main street? [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: Father. [1:14:30, 1:14:32]: Um no, I'm sorry, that's that's uh [1:14:33, 1:14:34]: That's that for now. [1:14:34, 1:14:35]: Okay. [1:14:35, 1:14:49]: Which uh is a great segue for the um discussion on the uh goals for the DDA. So let me uh set up my window and I'm gonna uh share my screen for a moment here. Give me a second. [1:14:52, 1:14:55]: All right. [1:14:56, 1:14:56]: Yeah. [1:14:58, 1:14:59]: Yeah. [1:15:00, 1:15:01]: This one [1:15:04, 1:15:10]: All right, let me know if you can see the um draft DDA priorities. [1:15:16, 1:15:19]: Doing a screen share check. Can y'all see this? [1:15:22, 1:15:26]: Okay. Yes, I'm not going to be able to do you're all on mute, but I think you're saying yes. [1:15:27, 1:15:28]: Okay, I'll take it as a yes. [1:15:29, 1:15:32]: Um so um [1:15:32, 1:15:33]: This is um [1:15:34, 1:15:41]: This is a sort of a presentation I've I've shared with the board now for uh since I joined about uh two years ago. [1:15:42, 1:15:55]: Um and before I get into too specifics, I want to elaborate a little bit more about um on my background and and and and to give context to to what I see here and what I'd like to offer as a priority for the DDA. [1:15:55, 1:15:56]: Um [1:15:56, 1:16:04]: I grew up in Miami and moved to uh Midtown Atlanta for my first job out of college in uh the late 80s. [1:16:04, 1:16:07]: Um and it may be hard to um [1:16:07, 1:16:09]: Imagine this for some people, but [1:16:10, 1:16:13]: In the nineteen seventies, uh, South Beach was [1:16:14, 1:16:16]: Extremely run down. [1:16:16, 1:16:21]: It was boarded up. The shopping had moved to malls in that era. [1:16:21, 1:16:27]: Uh midtown was the same way we moved here in the in the in the late eighties. It was a rough place to be. [1:16:28, 1:16:47]: Um, for those who are unfamiliar with that time and those places, um, you now know them as a very desirable place, it's upscale living, it's uh you know a global destination, uh especially when you think about South Beach. Um that's the I've watched those neighborhoods grow from. [1:16:48, 1:16:57]: Boarded up, you know, empty storefronts to what it is today. And I've seen the conditions that led to that transformation. [1:16:58, 1:17:05]: And these are the items that I've identified living here in Stockbridge, owning a business on Main Street as [1:17:05, 1:17:10]: the factors that will lead to can contribute to that type of growth for our city. [1:17:11, 1:17:12]: Um [1:17:12, 1:17:23]: I'll start off with some of these items specifically. So what I'd like to do is go over these. Um there's two pages. The first page is what um I would propose be the top priorities for. [1:17:23, 1:17:32]: Uh the DDA and the second page is other considerations. And we can move some into the first page if we think that is appropriate. [1:17:33, 1:17:53]: The first item is related to the master plan or an overall walking path for the downtown area. So the city has made an excellent investment with the amphitheater. I think we're all excited to see that come to fruition. There is very serious work and planning involved with the Arts Center. [1:17:52, 1:17:55]: Center on the other side of Burke Street. [1:17:55, 1:18:11]: And I believe we very strongly that we need a walking path to connect both of these investments to the downtown because you don't build these things just to build them. You build them to bring life and vitality and economic development to the city. [1:18:11, 1:18:16]: And there's gotta be a walking path from the amphitheater to Main Street. Right now there is none. [1:18:17, 1:18:24]: Um, there's just not you if you if you want to walk from the proposed site of the amphitheater to M OK Senior Heritage Trail. [1:18:24, 1:18:36]: You're either climbing over a railroad ditch, you're walking over a roadway, or you're walking over the pedestrian with, you know, 45 mile an hour traffic two feet away from you. It's not safe. [1:18:36, 1:18:40]: Um, so that's in my opinion a top priority. [1:18:41, 1:18:53]: Um we did initiate a master plan to help answer some of these questions, but the city, um there was a lack of support from the city at the time, or you kind of grew to that. [1:18:53, 1:18:57]: And um and there was a need for the city to [1:18:57, 1:19:00]: Um fund as promised a um [1:19:01, 1:19:08]: uh an uh an economic forecast that would give inform what the master plan would uh support [1:19:08, 1:19:17]: And I'm in favor of all that, although I do recognize that there are some either in the city staff or in the council who may feel that. [1:19:17, 1:19:18]: Um [1:19:18, 1:19:22]: We've got too much planning and not enough doing, maybe, is might be the sentiment. [1:19:23, 1:19:31]: Um, with or without a master plan, I think we've got to define the pedestrian path from the amphitheater to the downtown. That's my first point. [1:19:32, 1:19:52]: Um, the next one is the Alleyway project. And my understanding from the Main Street program, they've they've led the charge with uh this particular uh item, and that is already in the engineering phase. The idea is to uh resolve some of the drainage issues, resurface the lot, and make that an attractive place for people to come and possibly have events. [1:19:52, 1:20:03]: in the uh in the back alley between the two and we kind of become like this uh neat little um alcove in this height in the heart of our downtown. And I think that can bring uh some development in and of itself. [1:20:04, 1:20:06]: Um the quiet crossing [1:20:06, 1:20:25]: Um it's in my opinion essential for uh outdoor dining, which is in itself essential in a post-COVID world. It's also essential for a radius of residential from the from the railroad. Um it it may not [1:20:26, 1:20:26]: Prevent [1:20:27, 1:20:31]: economic development within a proximity of the railroad, but it does severely limit it. [1:20:32, 1:20:41]: And lastly, uh just the general approach to establish a destination for our downtown. And that can take the shape of many things. Um, it could be a welcome center, artwork. [1:20:42, 1:20:57]: a park trailhead sculptures. Um some of the work that uh the down uh the city is doing is to transform uh my understanding is that uh one of the buildings will be transformed into a welcome center and I think that will [1:20:58, 1:20:59]: Um [1:20:59, 1:21:03]: Offer an opp opportunity to meet that particular goal. [1:21:04, 1:21:12]: So let me pause here and kind of open it up for questions, discussion on the items listed on this first page that I've reviewed. [1:21:18, 1:21:21]: I I think they're all great ideas. [1:21:22, 1:21:22]: Let's do it. [1:21:23, 1:21:24]: All right. [1:21:24, 1:21:25]: Thank you, Bob. [1:21:26, 1:21:28]: Any other thoughts, uh feedback? [1:21:28, 1:21:29]: On any of them? [1:21:30, 1:21:33]: I co sign on all of that um for all the reasons mentioned. Um [1:21:34, 1:21:35]: 'Cause definitely [1:21:36, 1:21:39]: A pathway is definitely needed. It's it's not safe uh at all. [1:21:40, 1:21:41]: And um [1:21:41, 1:21:43]: It'll be great to have [1:21:43, 1:21:44]: Something that [1:21:45, 1:21:46]: Helps to link. [1:21:46, 1:21:47]: Ти [1:21:48, 1:21:50]: Amphitheater and [1:21:50, 1:21:51]: City Hall to [1:21:52, 1:21:55]: The business is right across the street in in a way that's appealing. [1:21:56, 1:21:57]: And uh it's uh [1:21:58, 1:21:59]: A good compliment. [1:22:00, 1:22:01]: Thank you. [1:22:02, 1:22:04]: Any other thoughts or feedback, anyone? [1:22:05, 1:22:08]: I echo um Mr. Swagger and Mr. Christian. [1:22:10, 1:22:11]: I do have a question. [1:22:11, 1:22:13]: In terms of the quiet railroad [1:22:14, 1:22:19]: Yes. Um have we heard have you heard anything from the city in terms of their discussions? [1:22:20, 1:22:20]: Uh with [1:22:21, 1:22:22]: Uh the railroad. [1:22:22, 1:22:30]: Uh good. Thank you for asking that because actually there's a few points with that that I failed to mention that I think are worth mentioning. Um [1:22:30, 1:22:38]: Obviously the the railroad owns the property. It's it's their right of way and not n that's not gonna change. [1:22:38, 1:22:39]: Um [1:22:40, 1:22:44]: Railroads in general, I think, are trying to. [1:22:44, 1:22:45]: Um [1:22:46, 1:23:02]: uh close down as many crossings as possible. I guess just there's probably a cost factor and safety and other reasons why they wanna and especially where there are two crossings very close to each other, the railroad is uh in you know interested in maybe uh limiting one or the other. [1:23:02, 1:23:02]: You know. [1:23:03, 1:23:06]: That does present a concern. [1:23:06, 1:23:15]: Um, if we were to consider, say for example, I think the the the s south of one thirty eight, I think the crossing is on a street. If I'm gonna s if I'm saying this right, is I think it's Nolan Street. [1:23:16, 1:23:25]: Um right there behind the food depot and where the uh where the school is is where it crosses. Um if that rail crossing were to be closed down [1:23:26, 1:23:34]: It would severely limit the residents in that historic neighborhood on the south side of the food depot. And um [1:23:34, 1:23:54]: You know, you know, the city could work with Norfolk Southern to sort of do a bit of a trade-off type of thing where, you know, maybe we close down this crossing, but we uh quiet the other one, you know, silence the other one. Um, but we still need to address uh the needs of the of the of the residents and owners of that neighborhood. [1:23:54, 1:23:55]: Okay. [1:23:55, 1:24:02]: And just one idea to throw out here is um for all of you who are familiar with the RSVP visioning. [1:24:02, 1:24:09]: Um there is an an um there is one concept of a pedestrian crossover. [1:24:10, 1:24:11]: It's been envisioned to be. [1:24:12, 1:24:14]: On the north side of one thirty eight. [1:24:16, 1:24:19]: Um, but if we're going to um [1:24:20, 1:24:21]: I guess I'll just throw out there. [1:24:22, 1:24:22]: Mm. [1:24:22, 1:24:32]: One consideration could be to consider moving that pedestrian path. So in other words, close down the vehicular crossing on the railroad on the Nolan Street side. [1:24:32, 1:24:37]: but build a pedestrian pathway on the south side of 138. [1:24:37, 1:24:45]: Um and there's some other considerations on that uh with that concept. It's just an idea. I'm not I'm not speaking on behalf of the railroad or anybody. [1:24:46, 1:24:51]: It's just a way that might um serve the needs of the folks in that neighborhood. [1:24:51, 1:24:56]: And at the same time, you know, manage the silencing of the railroad. [1:25:00, 1:25:00]: Other [1:25:01, 1:25:03]: Thoughts, questions, comments on this one? [1:25:04, 1:25:05]: Or this page. [1:25:06, 1:25:07]: I have a question. [1:25:07, 1:25:08]: Sure. [1:25:08, 1:25:12]: You said the city was not interested in the pedestrian path. [1:25:13, 1:25:15]: Well, it was [1:25:16, 1:25:22]: Let me say this that we're talking about the first item when uh the the the yeah. Um [1:25:22, 1:25:24]: It was more the master planning. [1:25:25, 1:25:26]: Um [1:25:27, 1:25:43]: effort in and of itself. So we the DDA did hire, approved, and funded a master planning to be done by the design firm that has done some of the other planning activities for the city. I think I think the same firm is involved with the uh with the art center concept. [1:25:43, 1:25:47]: And um it in it involved some [1:25:47, 1:25:53]: Answers that needed to be answered by by by the city. Space one of them is like, where do you want the crossing? [1:25:54, 1:25:58]: Cause there was one concept that actually changed the crossing to be somewhere else other than Love Street. [1:25:59, 1:26:14]: And um that um it just it wasn't getting the response that it needed and eventually COVID happened and everything sort of shut down. So that that master planning activity got suspended. [1:26:15, 1:26:16]: We could pursue it. [1:26:17, 1:26:20]: And you know, restart it, but in my opinion. [1:26:20, 1:26:22]: You know, it has to have the support of the city. [1:26:22, 1:26:30]: And so m you know, Mr. Peterson, uh, if you're still with us, maybe uh yeah, yeah, you are. Um, you know, that that's that you know how we go about [1:26:31, 1:26:39]: designing that pedestrian path, whether we just do it through an engineering plan or we do it through a larger master plan. [1:26:40, 1:26:40]: Um [1:26:40, 1:26:48]: I'm open to any approach, but um that's where we left off that master plan. So it's suspended. We could pick it up if we wanted to. [1:26:51, 1:26:56]: Yes, and I'll I'll need to get uh the details leading up to the suspension. [1:26:56, 1:26:57]: of that plan. [1:26:58, 1:27:02]: Um so that's a that's that's another conversation. But it it sounds great and [1:27:02, 1:27:05]: You know, we discussed this when we spoke last week. [1:27:06, 1:27:22]: Very good. I'll move on to the next page here. And these are just other considerations. Now, some of these I I'm I'm I'm I'm feeling like we might move one or more of these to what we would consider our top priority. And the first one is one that Barber spoke to, which is the architectural standards for the city. [1:27:23, 1:27:39]: Um another one is there is there is a building in um in in one of the old storefronts that is uh owned by the city now. And there's some consideration for you know what we call a white box development, which is where you know the building gets [1:27:39, 1:27:41]: Um sort of just uh you know. [1:27:42, 1:27:46]: re renovated to the point where it would be ready for a a tenant. [1:27:47, 1:27:57]: Um the DDA would very likely, depending on the concept and and what type of um development we end up with there, the DDA would very likely be involved with that, maybe as a [1:27:58, 1:28:00]: uh maybe as a a lessor. [1:28:00, 1:28:02]: Is that the right term? Um or [1:28:02, 1:28:07]: some other way. But um I just wanted to mention that to this group that that could come up. [1:28:08, 1:28:25]: There's also a building in front of the Merrmander Center. It's an old stone cottage. Uh, there's some consideration for, you know, that being a smaller event space or maybe like a bridal suite type of concept for the the Merrmanders. Um [1:28:25, 1:28:31]: Not a lot of details to these. These are just uh things that have come up that have been um that may have DDA involvement. [1:28:33, 1:28:39]: I'm sorry, Rachel. Go ahead. Question. The stone cottage, is that the building where there's currently [1:28:39, 1:28:40]: Uh staff in? [1:28:41, 1:28:42]: Or is that a different one? [1:28:42, 1:28:50]: Maybe. I don't know. I'm not exactly sure. I I want to say there's actually two buildings out there. I don't know if they're both owned by the city or if it's the one you're you're speaking of. [1:28:52, 1:28:55]: Question which building exactly is one hundred fourteen M L K? [1:28:56, 1:28:58]: It's um [1:28:58, 1:29:07]: One of the storefronts between Barn Beautiful and the the Ted. So it's one of those old storefronts. It's it it's currently vacant. [1:29:08, 1:29:08]: Okay. [1:29:13, 1:29:25]: All right. Um the trail plan was adopted by the city probably uh many years ago, three, four years ago, I want to say. Um and I'd like to see, you know, it didn't have a lot of specifics, but I what I what [1:29:26, 1:29:33]: Reflecting back on my background from you know where I grew up in Miami and seeing some of these uh neighborhoods transform. [1:29:34, 1:29:39]: Part of the reason that these cities transformed is because there was a solid [1:29:40, 1:29:41]: destination. [1:29:42, 1:29:45]: And now in a post ковід world. [1:29:46, 1:29:50]: We've we've all come to appreciate open air space. [1:29:50, 1:30:00]: And a multi-use trail can really transform. I've seen it happen in Midtown with the, you know, I I can remember attending meetings when the belt line was a concept. [1:30:00, 1:30:01]: And um [1:30:02, 1:30:10]: Indeed, we um have a potential here to connect our downtown as a linear park. [1:30:10, 1:30:12]: to some of these other um [1:30:12, 1:30:17]: uh parks that are already operated by the city and kind of superimpose a [1:30:18, 1:30:21]: A linear park in the center of our downtown. [1:30:22, 1:30:24]: And that alone, I think. [1:30:24, 1:30:25]: can bring [1:30:26, 1:30:34]: many other forms of development because people want to live near a place where they can enjoy the outdoors, walk their dogs, enjoy times with their family and so on safely. [1:30:35, 1:30:35]: Um [1:30:36, 1:30:39]: There's other the Berk Street Plaza and Infill that is a [1:30:39, 1:30:51]: potential idea for the and this is this is on the backside of MLK Senior, if you will, the Burke Street side. There's some uh underutilized uh developments there. [1:30:51, 1:30:56]: um sidewalks throughout and then of course there's the art center and theater as concepts. [1:30:57, 1:31:03]: Not all of these are to-do for DDA, but they can represent things that we may get involved with. [1:31:04, 1:31:08]: So I'll open it up for discussion on any of these. [1:31:14, 1:31:17]: So if you had to uh [1:31:18, 1:31:22]: Go ahead. Yes, please. [1:31:22, 1:31:23]: Wanted to [1:31:23, 1:31:26]: Focus in on one or two of these things as [1:31:26, 1:31:28]: priority items, things that [1:31:28, 1:31:31]: You know, we want to be proactive. [1:31:31, 1:31:33]: in you know, kinda. [1:31:34, 1:31:35]: working on a [1:31:36, 1:31:37]: What would you [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: Choose out of this list. [1:31:40, 1:31:45]: Out of the second page, I would probably prioritize this first one because I know this is foundational work. [1:31:46, 1:31:56]: that needs to happen before other develop before we can comfortably invite a lot of development into the city. Otherwise you end up with a half hazard mix of um buildings that don't really [1:31:57, 1:31:58]: You know. [1:31:59, 1:32:00]: Speak to a sense of place. [1:32:02, 1:32:03]: Okay. [1:32:05, 1:32:08]: Other thoughts, questions, comments? Anyone? [1:32:09, 1:32:12]: I I agree. I think the architectural standards is probably [1:32:13, 1:32:15]: would probably be buying number of [1:32:15, 1:32:17]: Number one on the second page there. [1:32:17, 1:32:17]: Yeah. [1:32:19, 1:32:20]: Okay. [1:32:24, 1:32:25]: Any other thoughts? [1:32:28, 1:32:38]: All right. Um so what I'm hearing is maybe even move this uh architectural standards to the to the to this being our if this is gonna be our top priority. I think there was kind of a general consensus with that. [1:32:39, 1:32:42]: And then we add to that the architectural standard. So we would have kind [1:32:43, 1:32:47]: I would say the way I would I view this is sort of have five foundational [1:32:48, 1:32:50]: elements that that guide [1:32:50, 1:32:53]: The work that we do as a DDA. [1:32:56, 1:33:00]: Any other thoughts before I close this part of the discussion? [1:33:01, 1:33:03]: I agree with moving that to a top priority. [1:33:04, 1:33:04]: All right. [1:33:06, 1:33:11]: All right, I will um stop sharing and we'll move on to the next item. Give me a moment here. [1:33:12, 1:33:32]: Um, I think the only thing that remains for today's agenda is uh just a a a brief update on the um the pending um sale that was, you know, it was made notice in a in a public meeting. Um as as you remember, there's there's two elements to the transaction. The first is an intergovernmental agreement between the DDA. [1:33:32, 1:33:39]: the city. And the second part is of course the purchase and sale agreement between the DDA and the buyer. [1:33:40, 1:33:55]: There's been some good work done on both of those. In fact, the intergovernmental agreement or the IGA I signed uh this morning. The concerns that I mentioned to you in an email to the group last week were all addressed. And we're just waiting for the formal [1:33:55, 1:34:07]: you know, wet signature copy to get routed to the appropriate parties, but they do have uh a digital copy of my signature uh representing the DDA. And I've shared that with with all of you. [1:34:07, 1:34:20]: Um the purchase and sale agreement has we are uh we are waiting for the I guess the copy, if you will, from the uh the city's attorney also to be routed. So those those both of those are in motion. [1:34:21, 1:34:30]: Any thoughts or questions about any of that that we can speak in a public setting and or does anyone need to go into a closed session to discuss the real estate transaction? [1:34:31, 1:34:35]: Guess we could go into closed session if if we have to, uh we could uh have it [1:34:36, 1:34:40]: My only concern is that I know we are in motion. [1:34:41, 1:34:44]: Uh, I guess we can discuss that in a close session so we can uh either vote. [1:34:46, 1:34:48]: On it since everything is already finalized. [1:34:49, 1:34:50]: Just uh [1:34:50, 1:34:52]: Take it to the next level and vote on it. [1:34:52, 1:34:54]: And those things to be uh [1:34:54, 1:34:56]: Brought up to us later on a update. [1:35:00, 1:35:20]: I I'm not aware of anything that is requiring a vote. So we voted in our last meeting to authorize the chair to serve on behalf of the DDA, and that part's been done. Now it I think it's just a matter of waiting for the final signatures and the earnest money that would accompany the payment. [1:35:20, 1:35:23]: So it's, you know, if you will, my part of it is done at this stage. [1:35:24, 1:35:26]: All right. So just a little clarification because we've been uh [1:35:27, 1:35:27]: You know. [1:35:28, 1:35:29]: Oh while now so [1:35:29, 1:35:30]: Right now. [1:35:31, 1:35:33]: You sign that uh that um [1:35:34, 1:35:36]: The IGA. [1:35:36, 1:35:37]: The IGA will go as [1:35:38, 1:35:39]: To the city. [1:35:39, 1:35:43]: And those two things that you were concerned of that you were satisfied with. [1:35:43, 1:35:45]: Mm-hmm. Yes, both of them, indeed. [1:35:46, 1:35:48]: Yeah, they were addressed uh directly. [1:35:49, 1:35:54]: So the only thing is we hold them back, you say, for the city attorney to get back to to us or get back to the city? [1:35:55, 1:36:00]: uh t to t for the for the final routing of the signatures for the purchase and sale agreement. [1:36:01, 1:36:10]: So I've I've given my authorization and we're just waiting for the final copy to be routed for signature. And as soon as I get it, I'll sign it because I didn't have any. [1:36:11, 1:36:31]: There were no issues or concerns. I mean, I had a few questions on the and I sent that thread to you all. Um, but there there was n nothing on the purchase and sale agreement that would have prevented me from signing it. So we're we're ready to move forward with that. We just need the uh uh up they needed to update the date and just have the final copy. [1:36:31, 1:36:40]: and for me to sign them. As soon as I get that, I'll turn it around the same day. And when when was this sign and and so that we can get an update from the city why they're taking so long to respond back to you? [1:36:41, 1:36:55]: Well, um, it hasn't been on the city side the whole time. Um the the response was slow, frankly, on both sides from uh I I think our attorney in some cases, as well as from the city's attorney. Um, so I I mean I can't speak to [1:36:55, 1:37:06]: what exactly, but it you know, when I when I received it on behalf of the D D A, I turned I either responded with questions or with my, you know, uh signature same day. So [1:37:06, 1:37:08]: Um there's there's no real [1:37:08, 1:37:12]: I've not I'm not aware of anything that is held up on the DDA side. [1:37:14, 1:37:17]: All right. Well well, I mean if that's the case, then we just like an update. [1:37:17, 1:37:23]: Uh not by the next meeting, but an update in terms when they do correspond to you and everything is transferred over. [1:37:24, 1:37:29]: Uh, because that was one of the issues that I was concerned over this was dragging on too long because we had this almost three months now. [1:37:30, 1:37:34]: That's right. Uh and you know, and for us just to go through another question was [1:37:34, 1:37:35]: Address like you said. [1:37:36, 1:37:39]: Service on the city side and let that be known that we did our job. [1:37:40, 1:37:41]: Uh, you already signed it. [1:37:42, 1:37:43]: And you're just waiting for them. [1:37:43, 1:37:46]: Just for clarification for everybody here, just waiting for the dam to [1:37:47, 1:37:48]: To accept it or [1:37:49, 1:37:50]: To get back to you. [1:37:50, 1:37:52]: to route the final copy for signature. [1:37:53, 1:37:57]: I I think the negotiation, all the terms have been agreed to. There's no [1:37:58, 1:38:04]: There's no I'm not aware of any pending items where we're waiting for them to agree to something that we're asking for. There's none of that on the [1:38:05, 1:38:08]: Uh PSA, uh we're just waiting for the final copy to sign off. [1:38:09, 1:38:09]: That's it. [1:38:10, 1:38:17]: All right, that's what I said. Just give us an update, you know, I mean w you know, when that is done so we don't have to wait for the next month to bring this back to the table. [1:38:17, 1:38:24]: Uh'cause I was if if it wasn't do it, I was gonna bring a motion forward to be uh, you know, adjudicated today. [1:38:24, 1:38:27]: So that we will, you know, make a decision one time and over. [1:38:28, 1:38:32]: Uh,'cause we've got to get old business and that's really old business. [1:38:32, 1:38:36]: And we say we want to do new things and uh um you know make the city [1:38:36, 1:38:39]: Go forward and be uh responsible, so let's not. [1:38:39, 1:38:40]: Uh you know. [1:38:40, 1:38:41]: Delay things that [1:38:42, 1:38:43]: We'll take that block. [1:38:43, 1:39:01]: Right. Understood. Yeah. And I agree. I I will certainly uh I hadn't been giving you any regular updates because uh in the intervals in between there wasn't really much to update. So but indeed uh the next step's going to be a signature. So I'll leave it at this. Um if I don't get a feedback within um [1:39:01, 1:39:17]: Uh, I'll say by the end of next week, you know, I expect this will be a matter of a day or two that that we would get the routed copies and for me to sign. And if that happens, I'll inform everyone. Um, if not, I'll at least send in a uh send you all an update with the latest status by next Friday. [1:39:17, 1:39:24]: Yeah, and I just wanted to be and I just wanna be on record that if it's not done then I I'll call emergency meeting for us to have a [1:39:24, 1:39:26]: uh vote on it and to get rid of it. [1:39:26, 1:39:27]: All right. [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: Noted. [1:39:29, 1:39:30]: Any other discussion? [1:39:31, 1:39:35]: Uh one thing I would say is I would recommend that whether it's um [1:39:36, 1:39:40]: on our side with our attorney or the city attorney that [1:39:41, 1:39:48]: not just emails be sent, but that somebody pick up the phone call, pick up the phone and actually contact that other person to make sh to let them know, hey. [1:39:48, 1:39:51]: I just send it over, you know, it's a waiting, you know. [1:39:52, 1:39:53]: Action on your part. [1:39:53, 1:39:55]: 'Cause I think that was part of the issue. [1:39:56, 1:39:56]: Um [1:39:57, 1:39:58]: Emails were being sent. [1:39:59, 1:40:00]: But no one was picking up the phone. [1:40:01, 1:40:11]: And and I agree I agree with you, uh, Christian. That's a very good point because that was happened when we were bringing back with uh ninth street and uh the debate between whether this person was doing something and the email was stuck. [1:40:12, 1:40:19]: And nobody called and said, I sent you that two weeks ago and it's a month now. Did you get it? Did you receive it? Could you give me a feedback? [1:40:20, 1:40:23]: And that's more responsible because now you're keeping that person accountable. [1:40:23, 1:40:25]: Because once you make a record off it [1:40:26, 1:40:29]: There's no excuse for them, because choice limits excuse. [1:40:29, 1:40:34]: And we just got to start giving people choice so that they can be responsible so that we can know what to do next. [1:40:34, 1:40:45]: And uh and also I want an update of all the board's phone numbers, uh, because I had time, you know, just phone numbers and update and uh titles and positions so people can know who to who. [1:40:46, 1:40:47]: Who is in the D DA? [1:40:48, 1:40:52]: So I I don't know if the secretary does that or the ch uh the chair. [1:40:52, 1:40:58]: Um, I can help lead that, but um I did pose the question. Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Sears. Um [1:40:59, 1:41:01]: I'll just ask it, you know, publicly and don't [1:41:01, 1:41:05]: Give me your phone numbers here now, but is does anyone object? [1:41:05, 1:41:21]: to uh some of you have already responded and I've noted those, but if anyone has an objection to sharing your phone numbers with the other members of the board, um please let me know tonight after this meeting because otherwise I will send a complete list of everyone's phone numbers. [1:41:21, 1:41:23]: to everyone on this board. [1:41:23, 1:41:34]: Um and so you know I just think it's like like you both have mentioned, um it's good to pick up the phone and just make sure that next step is being realized and not just assume [1:41:34, 1:41:37]: that an email has been sent that it's being received. [1:41:37, 1:41:40]: So especially with a legal matter like this. So uh [1:41:40, 1:41:43]: Good point. Thank you for calling that out. Any other discussion? [1:41:44, 1:41:51]: I have a question. Um, can I get the details for the purchase and sale agreement or does it even matter because it's [1:41:51, 1:42:04]: Pretty much almost done. No, it's a good point. And I want to bring you in on it. So th thank you. Um what I'll do is schedule maybe a separate meeting with you, Samequa, to brief you on [1:42:05, 1:42:08]: You know, where we are and what transpired prior to that, just to bring you up to speed on it. [1:42:12, 1:42:14]: Any other discussion or questions? [1:42:18, 1:42:30]: All right. Um that I believe was the last item on our agenda. Is there anything else, uh general comments before we uh move to adjourn the meeting? [1:42:32, 1:42:34]: Uh we don't have to go in the executive session, right? So that's [1:42:35, 1:42:42]: Not unless we first I would like to thank you. This is the first time we've had an hour and a half meeting, and I would like but to keep on going down and down. [1:42:43, 1:42:56]: Well so we're starting up we're starting up the new year very well. So I hope we can keep that uh, you know, just keep our conversation, you know. I mean I I don't know wanna have a timer. [1:42:56, 1:42:57]: And have a [1:42:57, 1:43:00]: parliamentarian and we have a hourglass. [1:43:01, 1:43:15]: Right. Uh if we go over the time. So again, happy new year to everybody. We didn't mention that. So uh new year. Right, right. Hey, look, and I tell people I don't make resolution. I always say, what is your hope for 2021? [1:43:16, 1:43:18]: 'Cause hope without a plan will leave you hopeless. [1:43:19, 1:43:19]: So [1:43:21, 1:43:22]: Indeed. [1:43:22, 1:43:25]: All right. Um so I'll [1:43:25, 1:43:27]: Uh anyone want to make a motion to adjourn? [1:43:29, 1:43:31]: I move that we adjourn tonight's meeting. [1:43:32, 1:43:32]: Right. [1:43:33, 1:43:40]: And Ms. Richardson has seconded. And Mr. Schweigert, if you would mind calling the roll, we'll make sure we close in an orderly fashion. [1:43:43, 1:43:45]: Okay, uh Roger Custon. [1:43:45, 1:43:47]: I'll say yes to adjourn. [1:43:47, 1:43:48]: Okay, just to jerk. [1:43:49, 1:43:51]: Uh Arthur Christian. Yes. [1:43:51, 1:43:52]: Over Richardson. [1:43:52, 1:43:53]: Yes. [1:43:53, 1:43:54]: Actual Sears? [1:43:55, 1:43:56]: Yes. [1:43:56, 1:43:59]: Bob Swagert, yes. Sunni Kwa King? [1:43:59, 1:44:00]: Yes. [1:44:01, 1:44:02]: Realness. [1:44:02, 1:44:17]: All right, very good. I won't keep you any further with any boring remarks. I've made my remarks, so I want to thank you all. I'm very excited about this. Thank you, Madame. Thank you, Madame Mr. Christian. I wish you all well. I mean thank you, Mr. Rasta. Bye bye. [1:44:18, 1:44:19]: Good night. [1:44:19, 1:44:20]: Good night.

--- title: January 15 2021 Special Called Meeting date: 2021-01-15 source: 2021-01-15_January_15_2021_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: Called a meeting to order. [0:00:02, 0:00:05]: I suppose it's called January twenty twenty one. [0:00:05, 0:00:20]: And uh and I'll do the invocation at this time. You don't mind bowing your heads. Lord, uh, thank you for bringing us together once again for another wonderful meeting, a special call meeting in which we're going to discuss and interview and select a key individual to our staff. [0:00:21, 0:00:37]: Be us always Lord we kind of look through the interview process and have a an outstanding um process in which uh we select uh someone to be a member of our team. Be us always Lord in your name. Amen. All right, so let's uh let's uh do the Pledge Allegiance. [0:00:41, 0:00:51]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which stands, one nation of God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:00:52, 0:00:54]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:01:00, 0:01:01]: Madam Clerk, roll call please. [0:01:05, 0:01:08]: Yes, I just got a message from um [0:01:08, 0:01:13]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, who's has went to the other meeting as well and is trying to join. [0:01:14, 0:01:16]: Uh Mayor Ford. Present. [0:01:20, 0:01:24]: Again, I just mentioned Mary um Pro Tem Alexander, Councilwoman Barber. [0:01:25, 0:01:26]: Present. [0:01:30, 0:01:31]: Councilman Blount. [0:01:31, 0:01:32]: President. [0:01:37, 0:01:39]: Council Woman Gantt. [0:01:40, 0:01:41]: President. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: And [0:01:47, 0:01:48]: Councilman Thomas. [0:01:49, 0:01:49]: Project. [0:01:52, 0:01:53]: Okay. [0:01:53, 0:01:54]: Therefore, do you have a quorum? [0:01:55, 0:02:00]: All right. Thank you. Appreciate that, uh, Ms. Holliday. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:02:03, 0:02:03]: Come on. [0:02:04, 0:02:04]: Sorry second. [0:02:06, 0:02:07]: Second. [0:02:07, 0:02:09]: No, thank you. All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:12, 0:02:25]: Uh oh thank you very much. Okay, we got it. I four four oh and uh I need a motion to go to executive session on um in reference to uh interviewing a candidate for executive to assistant uh [0:02:25, 0:02:26]: To the mayor of council. [0:02:27, 0:02:28]: Mayor Ford. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Yes, ma'am. I move that we go into executive session for personnel matters. [0:02:32, 0:02:33]: All right. So a second. [0:02:35, 0:02:35]: Second. [0:02:35, 0:02:37]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:02:40, 0:02:49]: All right. Okay. So we got four zero. Um now so in this aspect we're gonna go to second session and that's the other particular Pacific [0:02:49, 0:02:53]: um link that you sent us, right, Miss Holiday, do we need to get into now? [0:02:55, 0:02:56]: Is that correct? [0:02:56, 0:03:12]: That's correct. All right. So I'm going to say goodbye. I'm going to say goodbye to you all for right now for a brief moment. We have to go to another link to get in Zeke session. Okay. I want to ask one question before we go to the other link. Go ahead. Yeah. I sent an email out asking you all how you all are going to um [0:03:12, 0:03:18]: Handle the questions, or each one of you gonna ask a question of the candidate and do a round robin. [0:03:19, 0:03:21]: Until all the questions are answered. [0:03:23, 0:03:34]: We can we can attempt that. Yeah, I we can do that. Okay. I just wanted to make sure so everybody's on the same page. Okay. Good deal. All right. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Well, I'll see y'all in a bit. We're gonna go into the second session now. [0:03:35, 0:03:36]: Okay. [0:03:50, 0:03:52]: [315.3, 318.4]: Webinars now we're now live again. [0:05:23, 0:05:26]: Okay, so we're waiting for Alexander and and uh Gantt. [0:05:27, 0:05:28]: Well we do have a quorum. [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: At this point. [0:05:32, 0:05:36]: Mayor, can I recommend we move forward? There's no action coming out of executive session. [0:05:37, 0:05:37]: All right. [0:05:38, 0:05:41]: I'll tell you what uh counter [0:05:41, 0:05:48]: You councilman okay he agrees. All right. All right. So council, we we need a motion to end executive session, please. [0:05:48, 0:05:55]: I'll move. Is there a second? Okay, second. Mr. Thomas seconds is okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:05:56, 0:06:02]: We're indicating okay. I need a motion to reconvene a special call meeting, please. So move. [0:06:02, 0:06:05]: So move Alexander. Who's the second? [0:06:05, 0:06:15]: Second, Mr. Okay, Mr. Blounts, a second. Okay, we're back in our special call meeting. There's no results or information to give to the public at this time. So I make I'd like to have a motion to adjourn our meeting, please. [0:06:16, 0:06:17]: Some [0:06:18, 0:06:21]: Uh uh again, does that go to Blount here for [0:06:22, 0:06:24]: Okay, Blount second. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:06:26, 0:06:32]: All right. Good deal. Have a good weekend, ladies and gentlemen. Watch a lot of football. See you soon. All right. Good night. Good night.