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--- title: Planning Commission Meeting date: 2021-10-28 source: 2021-10-28_Planning_Commission_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: Hey David, do you hear me? [0:00:36, 0:00:36]: Thank you. [0:00:45, 0:00:46]: What you hear you? [0:00:48, 0:00:50]: Oh, you hear me, Stanley? [0:00:51, 0:00:52]: This is IT. We can hear you, sir. [0:00:53, 0:00:56]: Here's the deal, you guys did not send me [0:00:57, 0:00:57]: Uh [0:00:58, 0:01:00]: My Zoom to my email. [0:01:02, 0:01:03]: David or someone else? [0:01:04, 0:01:06]: So what? This is Harold Thibodeau. [0:01:07, 0:01:12]: Errol Thibodeau, okay, I can go in and send you a link. Would you like your own link or you just want me to change your name? [0:01:12, 0:01:16]: You can just change the name for right now, but I need to find out. [0:01:16, 0:01:19]: Why they're not sending me uh [0:01:20, 0:01:23]: My Zoom, I've checked uh spam, everything. [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: It was never sent to me. [0:01:26, 0:01:30]: Yeah, please email Vanessa Holliday. She's the one who sets these up. [0:01:31, 0:01:34]: Okay. Well I'll do that and find out from her. [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: Sounds good. [0:01:42, 0:01:43]: Y acha e. [0:01:51, 0:01:54]: I see it's just still saying connecting to you. [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: [280.2, 280.9]: Abdullah. [0:04:45, 0:04:46]: Did you hear my duple? [0:04:46, 0:04:47]: Okay. [0:04:47, 0:04:47]: You got me? [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Hey, uh [0:04:51, 0:04:55]: Tried to call you today, I was unable to get to [0:04:56, 0:04:58]: Mm-hmm. Get a message from me. [0:04:59, 0:05:02]: I've been sleep off and on, man. Uh I've been up so [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: I haven't checked the phone. [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: Okay, uh [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: I was just trying to leave you a message, uh [0:05:12, 0:05:16]: on some information. So I guess uh y when you get a chance, call me. [0:05:17, 0:05:19]: And I'll give you that information. [0:05:19, 0:05:21]: All right. I'll call you soon. This is over. [0:05:22, 0:05:23]: Okay, thank you. Sorry. She's not. [0:05:25, 0:05:25]: Yeah. [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: Good evening. [0:05:31, 0:05:32]: And and planning commissioners. [0:05:33, 0:05:35]: Good evening, Ms. Johnson. [0:05:36, 0:05:37]: How are you all doing tonight? [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: I'm outstanding. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: Wonderful. [0:05:41, 0:05:42]: How are you? [0:05:45, 0:05:46]: Hey you [0:05:47, 0:05:48]: We die. [0:05:48, 0:05:51]: We actually have a a sh pretty short agenda tonight. [0:05:51, 0:05:56]: And I wanna give you all a couple of project updates at the end. So [0:05:57, 0:05:57]: Um [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: Looking forward to it. [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Okay. [0:06:18, 0:06:22]: I think someone has music playing in the background if you could [0:06:22, 0:06:25]: That's me, I'm sorry. Oh no worries, no worries. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: Television. [0:06:29, 0:06:31]: Oh no worries. Thank you. [0:06:47, 0:06:51]: Okay, it is six thirty on the dive. Chairman, are you ready to get started? [0:06:52, 0:06:53]: Yes I am. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Um [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: Yeah. [0:06:58, 0:06:59]: We have uh [0:07:00, 0:07:01]: Um [0:07:02, 0:07:03]: Who is Miss Uh Logan? [0:07:05, 0:07:08]: Linda, let's go ahead and get started, ma'am. Well it's six thirty, uh [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: Planning commission meeting is called to order. [0:07:12, 0:07:16]: Um if Ms. Logan can or you, Ms. Johnson, want to call uh [0:07:17, 0:07:18]: Uh [0:07:18, 0:07:22]: Mr. Um Doomish, you wanna do an invocation for us? [0:07:23, 0:07:24]: I will. [0:07:26, 0:07:27]: Let us bow our heads, please. [0:07:29, 0:07:40]: Loving God, as we gather here tonight to do the business of the city of Stockbridge, we invite you, God, into this virtual environment. [0:07:41, 0:07:44]: And we pray, God, that you will uh that we will allow your spirit [0:07:45, 0:07:49]: to rule our hearts, to guide our thoughts. [0:07:49, 0:07:51]: And to control our lives. [0:07:52, 0:07:55]: So that we may continue to be service of all. [0:07:56, 0:07:57]: Amen. [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: Amen. [0:08:00, 0:08:01]: Pledge of allegiance. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: Place you [0:08:03, 0:08:04]: Hand over your heart. [0:08:06, 0:08:07]: I play it. [0:08:07, 0:08:22]: I fled allegiance to the United States of America to the Republic which is standing liberty. [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: Linda, are you with us yet? [0:08:29, 0:08:32]: Yes, I'm with you. Can you hear me? I give okay, give us a roll call. [0:08:32, 0:08:34]: Okay, ask you Abdullah. [0:08:34, 0:08:35]: Present. [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: Harold Thibodeau. [0:08:37, 0:08:38]: Present. [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Stanley Domus? [0:08:40, 0:08:41]: Present. [0:08:41, 0:08:43]: Kathleen Nelson. [0:08:43, 0:08:44]: Present. [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: David Planchon. [0:08:47, 0:08:48]: Present. [0:08:49, 0:08:50]: Mr. Chairman, we have quorum. [0:08:51, 0:08:52]: Thank you. [0:08:54, 0:08:55]: Uh if you haven't already. [0:08:55, 0:08:58]: You can read the uh previous minutes from September. [0:08:59, 0:09:00]: Mm-hmm. [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: Yeah, September twenty third. [0:09:06, 0:09:07]: And um [0:09:09, 0:09:11]: If we find no arrows or changes. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: I have a motion to uh [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Who does mean? [0:09:16, 0:09:18]: Chairman, you can adopt the agenda first. [0:09:19, 0:09:20]: Oh, I'm sorry. [0:09:21, 0:09:22]: Went right over that. [0:09:22, 0:09:24]: Motion to adopt the agenda. [0:09:24, 0:09:25]: For um [0:09:26, 0:09:27]: October twenty eighth. [0:09:30, 0:09:33]: I make a motion to adopt adopt the agenda for October [0:09:34, 0:09:35]: Twenty eighth. [0:09:35, 0:09:37]: I've sucked it back then. [0:09:38, 0:09:40]: All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:09:41, 0:09:42]: All right. [0:09:42, 0:09:43]: Those opposed. [0:09:45, 0:09:47]: Does have it the um [0:09:47, 0:09:48]: Agenda is adopted. [0:09:49, 0:09:54]: chairman chairman who who seconded because i think i heard two voices at the same time [0:09:54, 0:09:55]: I believe it's Mr. Dummers. [0:09:56, 0:09:59]: I said second also, I'm Harold Tibetan. [0:10:00, 0:10:00]: Okay. [0:10:01, 0:10:02]: This is a tie. [0:10:03, 0:10:04]: Pardon me? [0:10:04, 0:10:06]: It's the tie. We gotta jump it up. [0:10:07, 0:10:12]: Okay. [0:10:13, 0:10:24]: Let's review the minutes from September the twenty-third. Uh and if there are no changes. Pardon me. Mr. Chair, may I speak on that? [0:10:24, 0:10:28]: Changes for that for the minutes for September twenty third. [0:10:28, 0:10:29]: Sure, go ahead. [0:10:31, 0:10:33]: I did mention in the in the [0:10:33, 0:10:37]: in the meeting that uh we we had issues with uh [0:10:37, 0:10:39]: Комерціовіклс [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: passing through a [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Neighborhood. [0:10:42, 0:10:43]: From [0:10:43, 0:10:44]: Thrive time. [0:10:45, 0:10:49]: I I didn't see any anything mentioned about [0:10:50, 0:10:52]: me relating to the fact that uh [0:10:53, 0:10:57]: We need to eventually somewhere down the road correct a problem. [0:10:58, 0:11:00]: With that subdivision having commercial [0:11:01, 0:11:02]: vehicles running through their entire [0:11:03, 0:11:05]: Subdivision. That that wasn't in there. [0:11:06, 0:11:07]: Okay. [0:11:10, 0:11:11]: Mr. Chairman. [0:11:13, 0:11:14]: Yes, sir. [0:11:14, 0:11:19]: I have uh several corrections to the minutes. [0:11:20, 0:11:23]: And uh before I vote to approve. [0:11:23, 0:11:25]: And then I also have a comment. [0:11:25, 0:11:32]: kind of pick it back in on what Mr. Thibodeau has already articulated, but I'll I'll go over the corrections first. [0:11:33, 0:11:37]: Uh, because I think they need to happen before we approve them. [0:11:37, 0:11:41]: Uh item number five with the adoption of the agenda. [0:11:42, 0:11:56]: I it reads the motion to adopt by Mr. Thibodeau, second by Mr. Nelson. Pass 5-0. Well, that's incorrect. We should substitute the Dumas for Thibodeau in that sentence. [0:11:58, 0:12:12]: Uh item number six, approval of the minutes. Uh it reads uh motion to adopt by Ms. Nelson Secker by Mr. Thibodeau. It should read uh [0:12:13, 0:12:16]: Motion by Ms. Nelson, second by Mr. Dumas. [0:12:20, 0:12:23]: And I hope, uh, Madam Secretary, you'll get in these corrections. [0:12:26, 0:12:45]: Item number seven, approval of minutes. It reads uh adopted a motion to adopt by Mr. Thibodeau, second by Mr. Plancher. It should read motion to adopt by Mr. Dumas, second by Mr. Plancher. [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: And item number eight. [0:12:51, 0:12:52]: Election of officers [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: In the second paragraph [0:12:56, 0:13:04]: It reads Chairman Abdullah nominated himself as chairman. Mr. Thibodeau asked for clarification. [0:13:05, 0:13:13]: It should read uh Mr. Doodle nominated himself as chairman. Mr. Dumas asked for clarification. [0:13:14, 0:13:15]: Okay. [0:13:15, 0:13:18]: Then in the final paragraph of that same section. [0:13:20, 0:13:22]: It reads oh [0:13:25, 0:13:31]: Chairman Abdullah stated that he would like to have a vote on vice chairman for the remainder of twenty twenty one. [0:13:31, 0:13:34]: And he nominated Mr. Thibodeau to serve. [0:13:34, 0:13:36]: Mr. Doom has provided the second. [0:13:37, 0:13:41]: That should read Mr. Thibodeau provided the second. [0:13:44, 0:13:48]: So I think we gotta get Mr. Tibetou a ca a camera, uh uh audio. [0:13:48, 0:13:52]: a video because they seem to be confusing him and I. [0:13:54, 0:14:06]: Uh could I just state that we had actually three people taking minutes this time and um and I've just say for myself that I can't always tell who's speaking and it would be helpful if [0:14:07, 0:14:10]: If each person would identify himself or herself. [0:14:12, 0:14:13]: So that we can get [0:14:14, 0:14:15]: Correct. [0:14:15, 0:14:16]: People written down. [0:14:17, 0:14:21]: As far as I agree with you, Miss Logan, that we should say who we are when we make [0:14:21, 0:14:22]: Whatever. [0:14:22, 0:14:24]: statement of situation. [0:14:24, 0:14:28]: Oh, so that that'd be my Christmas present, getting me a new computer. [0:14:29, 0:14:29]: Yeah. Yeah. [0:14:30, 0:14:41]: All right. So I I personally am trying to write notes as fast as I can and trying to look at my paper and then look at the screen to see who's speaking at the same time as [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: Not always that easy. [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: You have a tape recorder? [0:14:46, 0:14:53]: Uh yes, and um I listened to the minutes and so did um we had another person as well. [0:14:53, 0:14:55]: So uh Mr. Chairman, if I may. [0:14:55, 0:15:15]: What we will do to ensure that we get the correct individuals that have made motions and seconds, we will verify that at after each vote to verify who has done the motion, who has done the second. And that is our responsibility on the staff side. But we'll we'll make sure that that happens at the next as we go through this process. [0:15:15, 0:15:19]: Tonight for votes and I'm calling for [0:15:20, 0:15:22]: Okay, is that all, Mr. Dumas? [0:15:22, 0:15:28]: I agree. It is in terms of corrections. I did have a comment to make. [0:15:29, 0:15:32]: But uh in light of what's been said. [0:15:33, 0:15:36]: I'm kind of inclined to just hold on and [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: Lady Riot. [0:15:38, 0:15:39]: Okay. [0:15:39, 0:15:45]: That being said, we uh made the correction that Mr. Dumas um [0:15:45, 0:15:46]: Just point it out. [0:15:46, 0:15:51]: Have a motion to adopt of the uh September twenty-third amendments as amended. [0:15:52, 0:15:58]: Uh Mr. Chair, I have one more item to say to that. Sure. You stated what Mr. Doom is said. [0:15:59, 0:16:03]: But also you need to state what I've said also for correction. [0:16:03, 0:16:04]: In the minute. [0:16:05, 0:16:07]: September twenty third. [0:16:07, 0:16:07]: Okay. [0:16:08, 0:16:11]: The amendments um noted by Mr. Domas and Mr. Thibodeau. [0:16:12, 0:16:17]: Uh the minutes will be uh adopted based on those changes, those corrections. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: May I have a motion to uh [0:16:20, 0:16:23]: Adopt those minutes from the September twenty third. [0:16:24, 0:16:34]: This is Mr. Dumas. I do move to adopt the minutes with the uh changes, the corrections that has been articulated by myself and Mr. Thibodeau. [0:16:35, 0:16:37]: No, this is Ms. Nelson. I second that. [0:16:38, 0:16:38]: Motion. [0:16:38, 0:16:40]: It's been moved and second. [0:16:40, 0:16:43]: All those in favor, let it body be known by the sign of aye. [0:16:43, 0:16:46]: I suppose. [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: The eyes have it, the uh Septon twenty-third minutes. [0:16:50, 0:16:51]: Adopted as amended. [0:16:54, 0:17:00]: May I ask whether um they still need to be um have a typed correction made to them? [0:17:02, 0:17:04]: Yeah, that's a this is not a [0:17:05, 0:17:06]: Public record. [0:17:06, 0:17:09]: Yeah, matter of public records. So yeah, you have to do that. [0:17:12, 0:17:13]: Thank you, Chairman. [0:17:14, 0:17:16]: Okay. Um excited. [0:17:17, 0:17:19]: That's it for September twenty third. [0:17:20, 0:17:20]: Five minutes. [0:17:21, 0:17:24]: Uh we got new business. [0:17:27, 0:17:31]: We have a recombination plat application for quick trip. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: Um [0:17:32, 0:17:35]: This requires a decision to approve or disapprove the [0:17:35, 0:17:37]: proposed recombination plat. [0:17:38, 0:17:41]: Case numbers RC two oh two one hyphen oh one [0:17:41, 0:17:43]: recombination plat application. [0:17:44, 0:17:48]: For property at the southeast corner of Eagles Landing Parkway and Patrick Henry Parkway. [0:17:48, 0:17:51]: The applicant is Eric Bickus of Quick Trip. [0:17:51, 0:17:54]: And the property owner is Eagles Landing Partners L L C. [0:17:55, 0:17:59]: They propose to combine parts of three parcels with a fourth parcel to allow for the development [0:18:00, 0:18:02]: Of a quick trip gas station and convenience store. [0:18:03, 0:18:04]: Two new parcels would be created. [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: With quick trip to purchase and use only one of them. [0:18:07, 0:18:10]: The four existing parcels contain a total. [0:18:10, 0:18:12]: Of two point five four acres. [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: And they are identified as follows. Number one. [0:18:15, 0:18:19]: Parcel number O five one, hyphen O one oh one one thousand. [0:18:19, 0:18:26]: with point oh five with point five nine six acres. This is located at twelve thirty nine Eagles Landing. [0:18:27, 0:18:29]: In landlot twenty of district six. [0:18:30, 0:18:30]: Number two. [0:18:31, 0:18:35]: Parcel number 051, hyphen 0101-1023. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: With point four seven three acres. [0:18:38, 0:18:42]: Located at 1235 Eagles Landing Parkway in late land lot twenty. [0:18:42, 0:18:43]: Of district six. [0:18:44, 0:18:53]: Number three. Then before you continue, will you go ahead and uh pull up the PowerPoint so we can they can follow along with each of the parcels that you're identifying? [0:18:55, 0:18:57]: Mm. Would you mind sharing your screen? [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: Okay, I was gonna read it again when I got to it. I'm just right now I'm just reading it for the record. [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: Um [0:19:07, 0:19:08]: Let's see. [0:19:20, 0:19:21]: Mm-hmm. [0:19:27, 0:19:30]: It says I'm screen sharing and I have my PowerPoint open. [0:19:32, 0:19:34]: Here they can see see that. [0:19:35, 0:19:36]: We can now, yes. [0:19:37, 0:19:37]: Right. [0:19:38, 0:19:40]: There's a list of the parcels. [0:19:40, 0:19:44]: So again, for the record, number three was oh five parcel number 051. [0:19:45, 0:19:50]: Python 010111002 with 1.130 acres. [0:19:51, 0:19:55]: Located at twelve thirty-one Eagles Landing Parkway in Land Lot 20 of District Six. [0:19:56, 0:20:01]: And number four, parcel number O five one, hyphen O one oh five three thousand. [0:20:01, 0:20:03]: With point three four one acres. [0:20:03, 0:20:09]: Located in front of twelve thirty-one and twelve thirty-nine Eagles Landing Parkway in land lot twenty. [0:20:09, 0:20:10]: Of district six. [0:20:11, 0:20:12]: I'll start at the beginning. [0:20:13, 0:20:16]: Um again this is proposed recombination plat for quick trip. [0:20:16, 0:20:18]: I've given the uh location. [0:20:19, 0:20:20]: Um [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: And the applicant and applicant is QuickTrip Eric Bickus, the agent. [0:20:26, 0:20:30]: Property owner equals landing partners LLC owns all four parcels. [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: comprising the proposed development site. [0:20:33, 0:20:38]: Um they actually could have the four parcels that they want to wind up with two parcels to do that. [0:20:38, 0:20:41]: is a little bit technical where they're combining three parcels and [0:20:42, 0:20:45]: So on. The main thing is they're going from four parcels to two. [0:20:45, 0:20:47]: And they um [0:20:47, 0:20:48]: Property owner. [0:20:48, 0:20:50]: Would keep one of the [0:20:50, 0:20:53]: Um new parcels and then quick trip would [0:20:53, 0:20:55]: Uh purchase and utilize the other one. [0:20:55, 0:20:56]: Um [0:20:56, 0:21:00]: Quick trip with purchal purchase one point four eight two acres. [0:21:00, 0:21:04]: uh remainder will be left over for the property owner. Here's a list of the parcels again. [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: All part four parcels are zone C two general [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: commercial which allows the proposed use. [0:21:12, 0:21:16]: Here's an aerial photo of the vicinity. We have the interstate highways here. [0:21:17, 0:21:20]: uh Eagles Landing Parkway this way. [0:21:20, 0:21:21]: Rock Quarry Road here. [0:21:22, 0:21:22]: Um [0:21:23, 0:21:24]: The site is this [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Dirt corner right here. [0:21:27, 0:21:29]: Uh four parcels in here. I have another [0:21:30, 0:21:34]: uh slide here. It is mostly a dirt embankment at this time. [0:21:35, 0:21:37]: Uh that's just what it looks like. [0:21:37, 0:21:38]: And [0:21:39, 0:21:43]: Here's another view uh from from Eagles Landing Parkway. You can see this embankment here. [0:21:44, 0:21:46]: I I think it was um [0:21:46, 0:21:49]: Been this way for a long time is what I've been told and it [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: Maybe left over from [0:21:51, 0:21:53]: Someone who had proposed to build and [0:21:54, 0:21:55]: Decided not to [0:21:55, 0:21:58]: This is from Patrick Henry Parkway here. [0:21:58, 0:22:02]: And w and that's a retaining wall. What you're looking at this driveway serves [0:22:02, 0:22:04]: An adjacent um [0:22:04, 0:22:05]: Office building. [0:22:07, 0:22:09]: Linda, may I speak on that? [0:22:09, 0:22:10]: For a moment. [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: Okay. [0:22:11, 0:22:14]: That that parsa used to be an office building. [0:22:15, 0:22:18]: And they tore it down and they used the dirt. [0:22:19, 0:22:21]: to make that Patrick Henry [0:22:22, 0:22:24]: Area uh to build up that area. [0:22:25, 0:22:29]: Uh that's what happened to that particular piece of property right there. It [0:22:30, 0:22:33]: It wasn't vacant, they bought it out and then they used the dirt. [0:22:35, 0:22:37]: About how about when did that happen? [0:22:38, 0:22:41]: I it's years within the past ten years, uh [0:22:42, 0:22:46]: I was overseas in Iraq, but that's what happened. There used to be a office building on top of that whole [0:22:47, 0:22:49]: parcel of land that you're looking at. [0:22:51, 0:22:52]: And they tore the office buildings down? [0:22:53, 0:22:54]: That's correct. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: Mm-hmm. [0:22:58, 0:23:05]: Okay, uh we have a GIS zoning map and here you can see this is the corner, these different parcels. [0:23:05, 0:23:07]: Shown in this orange roll zone. [0:23:07, 0:23:09]: R a C two. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: Most of the areas zone C two. [0:23:12, 0:23:14]: Except for that one right there. [0:23:15, 0:23:17]: Um you can see the parcels again here. [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: Outline in blue. [0:23:19, 0:23:20]: Um [0:23:21, 0:23:24]: Anyway, the applicant has submitted this um [0:23:25, 0:23:36]: drawing here, the survey, um, the black line is what they're hoping to accomplish. They're not gonna use QuickTrip is not gonna use all of the property. [0:23:36, 0:23:39]: They only want to use what's shown in this black line here. [0:23:39, 0:23:40]: Black outline. [0:23:41, 0:23:45]: water and this part here that's left over, the property owner will keep. [0:23:45, 0:23:51]: Now the colors are the individual parcels and you can see that that some of them would be split apart. [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: to form the two new parcels. [0:23:54, 0:23:57]: Anyway, um and this will be the result here, the plaque. [0:23:57, 0:24:00]: This is what they will want to record. Now we've had um [0:24:01, 0:24:06]: uh our engineer to do um review of this plat and [0:24:06, 0:24:13]: Um he's fine with it. So these are the two parcels, one right here that Quick Trip would use, and then the remaining one that would [0:24:14, 0:24:15]: property owner would keep. [0:24:15, 0:24:16]: Maintain. [0:24:17, 0:24:19]: Uh there's a site plan here. [0:24:19, 0:24:23]: Uh the main driveway would come as Eagles Landing Parkway at the bottom. [0:24:24, 0:24:30]: Patrick Inning Parkway here. You're actually looking um at the top is south and at the bottom is north. [0:24:31, 0:24:33]: That by the this arrow here. [0:24:34, 0:24:34]: Roughly. [0:24:35, 0:24:39]: Anyway, so main driveway would come off of Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:24:39, 0:24:42]: Cars would circulate around in here, the building. [0:24:42, 0:24:46]: convenience store building would be here and the pumps in front of it. [0:24:46, 0:24:48]: And um there is a [0:24:49, 0:24:51]: The two retaining walls, one here at the back. [0:24:51, 0:24:53]: One on the side here. [0:24:53, 0:24:54]: And um [0:24:55, 0:25:03]: Anyway, the engineer has done a preliminary review of that as well. We've informed the applicant that they may not. [0:25:03, 0:25:04]: Um [0:25:04, 0:25:06]: Have um [0:25:06, 0:25:09]: approval of land disturbance permit until [0:25:09, 0:25:11]: Such time as [0:25:11, 0:25:13]: The new plat is officially recorded. [0:25:14, 0:25:34]: So anyway, um here's our analysis. So um the qualifications for this proposal, all four parcels need to have the same property owner and they do. All four parcels need to have the same zoning classification and they do. The preliminary plat needs to be proved by planning and zoning, so I reviewed it, it was, and preliminary plat. [0:25:34, 0:25:49]: needs to be approved by this city engineer and it was so all four qualifications have been met we therefore recommend approval the one stipulation is what I just mentioned no land disturbance permit or building permit may be issued by the city [0:25:49, 0:25:55]: until applicant submits proof that the plat has been officially recorded by Henry County Superior Court. [0:25:56, 0:25:57]: Are there any questions? [0:25:58, 0:26:04]: Yes, uh this is Mr. Dumas. Uh my question is either for you, Linda, or for the applicant. [0:26:05, 0:26:05]: Oh [0:26:06, 0:26:15]: Less than well, approximately six tenths of a mile to the southwest of this site is an existing quick trip. [0:26:16, 0:26:19]: Vince stall slash service station, if you will. [0:26:20, 0:26:35]: And I'm wondering, I'm wondering, uh and this has nothing to do with the proving it or disapproving it, but just wanting to know what's going on in the community. Is this gonna be a replacement and and that station will close or? [0:26:35, 0:26:41]: Is this designed to compete with the gastation less than a half a mile away? [0:26:42, 0:26:49]: Is that in the located here in this photo somewhere? Just to the west or across the freeway. [0:26:49, 0:26:55]: There's a Walmart on that corner. Oh, that Walmart. There's a quick trip already existing. [0:26:56, 0:27:00]: And and the distance between the two sites is about six tenths of a mile. [0:27:01, 0:27:03]: Maybe the applicant would like to address that. [0:27:07, 0:27:08]: Mr. Bakers? [0:27:17, 0:27:19]: Do I need to stop sharing my screen for someone else's speech? [0:27:20, 0:27:20]: Oh. [0:27:21, 0:27:22]: Well, let me say this. [0:27:23, 0:27:24]: It's not uncommon to have [0:27:26, 0:27:35]: service stations and uh convenience stores in their close proximity. If you look to the south of there at Rock Quarry and um [0:27:37, 0:27:39]: Jodicum, there's a similar situation there. [0:27:40, 0:27:46]: In fact, you have three service stations there. And basically it depends on what the market value for that particular. [0:27:47, 0:27:49]: uh entity is. Um [0:27:50, 0:27:54]: Some people like um chevron, some people like shell. [0:27:54, 0:27:59]: And that's the situation j immediately south of it, approximately two miles. Like I said, said Jodico. [0:28:00, 0:28:01]: And uh Rock Quarry. [0:28:02, 0:28:11]: So uh I don't see any particular conflict with that. I mean, if they want to reduce their market share or split their market share by having a similar station. [0:28:11, 0:28:13]: Uh within a mile, so be it. [0:28:14, 0:28:17]: Uh they also they they they they have the qualifications for [0:28:18, 0:28:20]: uh establishing the uh facility there. [0:28:21, 0:28:24]: And uh I wouldn't I wouldn't oppose that. [0:28:25, 0:28:30]: And if there is a possibility that they may have internally decided they're gonna close that station down for whatever reason. [0:28:31, 0:28:32]: We don't know that. We're not privy to that. [0:28:35, 0:28:36]: Um Mr. President Massby. [0:28:37, 0:28:37]: Sure. [0:28:38, 0:28:44]: Uh there there is a a racetrack down the road from that. That's that's really not that far. So I [0:28:45, 0:28:46]: I guess in reality the [0:28:47, 0:28:52]: Uh, when you consider across the freeway and on the other side of the freeway. [0:28:52, 0:28:57]: uh they may be after the market share that which is on that side of the free grade. [0:28:57, 0:29:01]: versus the other quick trip on the other side. So [0:29:01, 0:29:05]: If you go into some of the high end neighborhoods. [0:29:05, 0:29:07]: You you'll find uh [0:29:07, 0:29:10]: That a lot of stations are not that for and [0:29:11, 0:29:12]: From each other, especially [0:29:12, 0:29:16]: If there's a lot of construction going on in the area. [0:29:17, 0:29:19]: There's there's another possibility. [0:29:20, 0:29:23]: uh exiting off seventy five. [0:29:23, 0:29:27]: If you're gonna continue south, you automatically go right to to that station. [0:29:27, 0:29:29]: And if you're gonna go north. [0:29:29, 0:29:42]: You would come east and use that station. I mean, I'm I'm just speculating. I don't know. I'm saying, but people look at the convenience factor of how far they have to travel to get gas, et cetera, and how close that station is to the expressway, to uh highway or whatever you want to call it. [0:29:43, 0:29:46]: And so that's a possibility. We don't know. We're not privy to their internal thinking. [0:29:47, 0:29:49]: or analysis in terms of addressing that issue. [0:29:50, 0:29:52]: And that's our part of this application. [0:29:54, 0:29:56]: Mr. Chairman, may I please? [0:29:57, 0:30:02]: This is Mr. Dumas again. I I didn't uh realize that my question was gonna generate [0:30:03, 0:30:06]: So much commentary and question wasn't asked. [0:30:07, 0:30:22]: to form an opinion of whether to approve, vote to approve or disapprove. The question was just, and I thought I qualified that by just wanting to know what's going on in the neighborhood in terms of businesses closing or not closing. [0:30:23, 0:30:30]: New business is coming in, or if this station was designed to replace the one to the south. [0:30:31, 0:30:40]: Or if if it was going to compete. It was just a general question. It it had no bearing on what my feelings are about whether to vote for this or not. [0:30:41, 0:30:47]: Again, I said this that's the internal thing with them. So and that's also not part of it. And that's why I asked the question to the applicant. [0:30:48, 0:30:51]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchin, real quick. [0:30:52, 0:30:55]: We're here just to discuss the zoning. Is that is that correct? [0:30:56, 0:30:58]: Not actually what's going to be built there. [0:30:59, 0:31:02]: That's absolutely correct. And I just seen Mr. Bickis. [0:31:02, 0:31:05]: From Quick Trip, maybe he can address those issues. [0:31:06, 0:31:07]: Absolutely. Um [0:31:07, 0:31:08]: Can you guys hear me now? [0:31:09, 0:31:09]: Sure, yeah. [0:31:10, 0:31:11]: Sorry about that. I had [0:31:12, 0:31:18]: uh technical difficulties. Um the uh existing Quick Trip store um 100% will remain open. [0:31:19, 0:31:38]: Um, what you may see in the future after we uh uh build and develop the proposed Quick Trip is us going back and remodeling uh or knocking down the older store and replacing it with a new one. But um our internal analysis has shown that the traffic patterns are different, therefore we intend to keep both stores open. [0:31:39, 0:31:40]: Thank you. [0:31:47, 0:31:49]: Okay, Mr. Logan is anything further? [0:31:50, 0:32:02]: I just wanted to clarify a comment that was m made a moment ago. We're not discussing the zoning per se of this property. The question at hand is whether to approve the proposed combination. [0:32:02, 0:32:05]: Of from four parcels to two parcels. [0:32:06, 0:32:10]: So that QuickTrip may use one of the parcels to build this new QuickTrip station. [0:32:12, 0:32:15]: Well, let me put this a to sort of [0:32:16, 0:32:17]: to the board. [0:32:17, 0:32:20]: Anybody have any other questions regarding this application? [0:32:22, 0:32:23]: Permission to speak, Mr. Chairman. [0:32:23, 0:32:24]: This is Miss Nelson. [0:32:26, 0:32:32]: So I understand I understand we're only discussing the zoning of, you know, the combination of the two parcels. [0:32:32, 0:32:35]: However, it's with the intent that there will be uh [0:32:36, 0:32:36]: Trip built. [0:32:37, 0:32:42]: Um so i k i I I is has there been any discussion? [0:32:42, 0:32:43]: Um [0:32:43, 0:32:44]: About [0:32:44, 0:32:50]: what they will do in terms of congestion and traffic. That that's kind of a congested area right there. [0:32:50, 0:32:53]: You've got the food mart that we were talking about in [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: with the other gas station, you've got Chick-fil-A right in there. [0:32:57, 0:33:03]: Um, you know, so that that's kind of a congested area. So has there been any discussion of what they're gonna do about [0:33:04, 0:33:04]: Uh [0:33:04, 0:33:06]: you know, traffic in that area. [0:33:06, 0:33:09]: Uh thank you. With the addition of the quick mark. [0:33:10, 0:33:13]: Yeah, I think in the application they say you're gonna have ingress. [0:33:13, 0:33:18]: Off uh Rock Quarry Road and also off Eagles Landing. Is that right, Mr. Vickers? [0:33:19, 0:33:24]: Yes, in addition to that, we'll have a full access point on Country Club Drive as well. [0:33:25, 0:33:26]: Okay. [0:33:26, 0:33:27]: So [0:33:27, 0:33:29]: That'll address the traffic issue. [0:33:30, 0:33:32]: There would actually be three. [0:33:32, 0:33:35]: Access is the main one on Ingles Landing Parkway. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: And the a secondary one, um [0:33:38, 0:33:40]: Uh go will go use a [0:33:40, 0:33:41]: Driveway of the [0:33:42, 0:33:48]: Office building to the rear out to Patrick Henry Parkway, and then there will be a third internal access. [0:33:49, 0:33:50]: Going to the east. [0:33:51, 0:33:53]: Which will connect with adjacent office park. [0:33:54, 0:33:54]: Yeah. [0:33:57, 0:33:59]: And I had the uh fire marshal to review this and [0:34:00, 0:34:01]: He's fine with it. [0:34:02, 0:34:02]: Yeah. [0:34:03, 0:34:04]: Call from [0:34:05, 0:34:15]: Any other questions? Uh one thing good about that situation on that corner. [0:34:15, 0:34:16]: Uh [0:34:16, 0:34:20]: being that they have mediums in the roadway. [0:34:20, 0:34:27]: Uh they're gonna have a better control of uh of entry and exit on that particular piece of property. [0:34:29, 0:34:40]: And then you have the back end yourself. You come out of Eagles Land and you can't turn to the left. You gotta go to the right. Exactly. So so we have some informal. Yep, you have an option to go. [0:34:40, 0:34:42]: East or west or straight ahead. So [0:34:43, 0:34:49]: Uh those are controlled by traffic signals already. So I don't see that as being uh a real concern at this point. [0:34:49, 0:34:53]: No, I'm saying it's not a problem because the egress and entry [0:34:54, 0:34:58]: will be controlled in in in a lot of ways that that [0:34:58, 0:35:03]: You won't enter a lot of traffic into the mainstream is what I'm basically saying. [0:35:04, 0:35:05]: Okay. [0:35:11, 0:35:12]: Any further discussion? [0:35:13, 0:35:19]: Mr. Chairman, this is uh Mr. Dunwiss, and I'm prepared to make a motion to approve this. [0:35:23, 0:35:25]: Mr. Doans has made a motion for approval. Is there a second? [0:35:26, 0:35:29]: Yeah, this is Harold Thibodeau and I'll second it. [0:35:30, 0:35:34]: Okay, it's been moved and second. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:35:35, 0:35:36]: All right. [0:35:37, 0:35:38]: Those opposed? [0:35:39, 0:35:45]: I was have it, the motion is carried, the approval, the uh uh approval for the recombination. [0:35:46, 0:35:47]: has been approved. [0:35:49, 0:35:50]: Thank you guys. [0:35:51, 0:35:51]: Okay. [0:35:53, 0:35:54]: Uh [0:35:54, 0:35:56]: That's it for the agenda. [0:35:57, 0:36:01]: Um I think Ms Johnson had something to say. [0:36:02, 0:36:03]: Following this. [0:36:03, 0:36:21]: Yes, uh thank you, Chairman. Um so I I have a couple project updates and a couple staff comments. Um as it pertains to um project updates, I want to just make you all aware that uh the bridges at Jodico has a project of [0:36:22, 0:36:30]: 306 apartments and about 6200 square feet of commercial space for mixed use. [0:36:31, 0:36:36]: So I wanna make sure I'm at the right location. You're making a reference to the property. [0:36:37, 0:36:42]: South of uh uh of uh Eagles Landing at Jodeco and the Expressway. [0:36:43, 0:37:03]: Yes, but but Johtoco, Johako Road, yes, on the just south of Johtoco Road north of the Atlantic. And um the the project they've submitted for the 306 units is about 16 buildings. There's a couple garages, clubhouse, and other amenities. So there will likely be a groundbreaking, I would think, in the next couple. [0:37:02, 0:37:22]: Couple of weeks that the uh that the developer is scheduling with our uh public information officer and the mayor's office. So I will keep you abreast on those dates. Also, um the unified development code that you all approved at the last. [0:37:22, 0:37:40]: hearing um has been has gone to the city council first reading it will go for its second likely in january the legal staff wants to finalize their review and take a little bit closer look at some of the uh concerns that [0:37:41, 0:38:01]: either have come up since we had the first reading or other items that they want to just ensure that we are maintaining our our legal um ability to defend our our code. So they will be reviewing that I will keep you all updated on any changes. But at this point it'll be [0:38:01, 0:38:05]: go before the city council for the second reading and approval. [0:38:05, 0:38:08]: Ms. Johnson, will the fundament when that's finished, will that be [0:38:09, 0:38:10]: Codified and published. [0:38:11, 0:38:18]: Absolutely. And I'll make sure that if you would like a hard copy, I'll provide a hard copy. We will have digital copies available to you as well. [0:38:19, 0:38:39]: I don't know if you if you all have been able to look through the table of contents is is going to be really great because as you click on a section, it'll take on the section number is gonna take you directly to that section in the code. So you're not having to scroll through hundreds of pages of material to find what you're looking for. And that's part of making. [0:38:39, 0:38:47]: It user-friendly for our effective officials, appointed officials, our staff, and our developers who are reviewing it. [0:38:48, 0:39:08]: So that kind of concludes uh oh Davidson Parkway. So the Davidson Parkway um DRI I think was recommended for denial at the last meeting. It uh was scheduled to go to the city council at the last at this past Tuesday's meeting. However, the applicant requested to defer it. [0:39:08, 0:39:11]: it to the November eighth agenda. [0:39:11, 0:39:18]: So that they have more time to speak with the public, with the community, with another potential uh business. [0:39:18, 0:39:37]: Califer just south, located south of the property, and um and have discussions before they brought it back to the city. So we've uh yet to get all of that information yet, but when we do, we will share that as well. I try to always keep you all up to date on new projects. [0:39:38, 0:39:41]: What's you know, going through the groundbreaking process. [0:39:42, 0:39:47]: what we have um new businesses and things like that so i'll be preparing um a report [0:39:47, 0:39:49]: For our next meeting. [0:39:50, 0:39:51]: For next year. [0:39:52, 0:39:58]: And uh that concludes my uh comments and project updates. [0:39:59, 0:40:00]: Thank you, Mr. Johnson. [0:40:01, 0:40:02]: Absolutely. [0:40:03, 0:40:05]: That being said [0:40:05, 0:40:07]: Yeah, we have a motion to adjourn. [0:40:07, 0:40:09]: I mentioned one other thing. [0:40:09, 0:40:10]: Five minutes. [0:40:10, 0:40:13]: Can I mention one other thing? Sure. [0:40:14, 0:40:18]: Uh we wanted at some point to discuss the bylaws, but and not before we can [0:40:19, 0:40:21]: Discuss that at a formal meeting. [0:40:21, 0:40:22]: Um [0:40:22, 0:40:23]: Well, wanna have some [0:40:24, 0:40:24]: Um [0:40:25, 0:40:30]: Informal reviews, maybe with two or three of each of you at one time and [0:40:31, 0:40:33]: Mr. Abdullah, if if you would wanna [0:40:34, 0:40:37]: Think about when you might want to hold those meetings. [0:40:38, 0:40:40]: Well I'll let you schedule those meetings so that it's uh [0:40:42, 0:40:44]: uh convenient for all of us, but um [0:40:45, 0:40:49]: It it was done only sometime sometime after the November eighth meeting. [0:40:50, 0:40:56]: Because Johnson said we're not having another meeting after that until January. So I think after the November meeting. [0:40:57, 0:41:04]: We could uh uh get together. Unless the we don't have anything in the hopper at this moment, but if we do have something in [0:41:04, 0:41:12]: Uh we will have a December meeting, but we won't know until our deadline of November fourth, which is our cutoff for any application to be heard. [0:41:13, 0:41:17]: So we'll keep you all posted. Um and then one final thing. [0:41:18, 0:41:23]: Um I know that we've been uh the council was hoping to bring on or just [0:41:26, 0:41:26]: You broke up. [0:41:35, 0:41:36]: Ms. Johnson. [0:41:37, 0:41:44]: a planning commissioner to place and um hopefully by the new year we'll have have that that [0:41:44, 0:41:46]: Um seat replaced. [0:41:47, 0:41:51]: Uh our next meeting is scheduled for December the second and we do have a [0:41:52, 0:41:52]: Um [0:41:53, 0:41:54]: Resoling case. [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: That is scheduled to be heard then. [0:41:58, 0:41:59]: Uh Chairman. [0:41:59, 0:42:04]: Sure. Yes, Mr. Dumas. Uh I have a question for Ms. Logan. [0:42:05, 0:42:11]: I'm curious to know since we've already adopted and voted on the uh bylaws. [0:42:12, 0:42:14]: I think that was done back in [0:42:14, 0:42:17]: Two thousand seventeen, I believe. [0:42:18, 0:42:22]: What is it that we um need to meet about uh [0:42:23, 0:42:24]: I'm I'm I'm confused. [0:42:24, 0:42:32]: Well, um at the last meeting it was discovered that we have not been voting annually on uh members. [0:42:32, 0:42:35]: positions chairman, vice chairman, secretary, whatever. [0:42:35, 0:42:47]: But that has nothing to do with the bylaws. I mean it's just that we didn't follow them. That's all we didn't follow and there's some other amendments in there that we need to make. Ms. Johnson brought up a date that we're supposed to vote on that, etc. Is that correct, Ms. Johnson? [0:42:47, 0:43:07]: Yes. I mean if we can vote on it at our next meeting before the end of the year, um, and which which is really why we'd like to have those two-on-two or one-on-one meetings with you all to kind of go through some of those things. And Linda's putting together a short, you know, bullet pointed list of some things that we just want to have addressed to make sure that we're [0:43:07, 0:43:20]: clear on going forward. So the new year where we have a clean process. Yes. Oh, we're speaking in to uh amend the bylaws. Is that what I'm hearing? We need to make some amendments to the existing bylaws. [0:43:22, 0:43:31]: Yes. Yes. Uh we wanna just make sure that you all are good with those. But again, you know, not for this meeting necessarily, but for offline just sort of [0:43:31, 0:43:35]: have a a work session discussion about it. What if so [0:43:36, 0:43:38]: Why don't we schedule it after the December second meeting? [0:43:40, 0:43:47]: Sounds like that. Yes. There's a is another meeting schedule, planning commission meeting scheduled for December 16, just two weeks later. [0:43:48, 0:43:50]: Well and we we will address that with [0:43:50, 0:43:53]: I wanted to get us to get into all the dates, but let's [0:43:53, 0:44:04]: uh talk offline with you, Chairman, um, and and talk with the other board members. But for the sake of this particular agenda, um, I think we can, you know, close with that and [0:44:04, 0:44:05]: Do all offline. [0:44:07, 0:44:10]: Okay. Having said that, have a motion to adjourn. [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: I'll second it. [0:44:14, 0:44:20]: You want are you want to make a motion to adjourn? No, no, I mean I'll present a motion to adjoin the meeting. [0:44:20, 0:44:22]: And then I need Miss Logan. [0:44:23, 0:44:25]: Yeah. [0:44:25, 0:44:27]: Yes. Did you say something? [0:44:27, 0:44:32]: No. Oh Ms. Ms. Nelson did. She made the motion to to adjourn. [0:44:33, 0:44:38]: Mr. Nelson has made a motion to adjourn. Do I have a second? I hero tibod or a second. [0:44:39, 0:44:46]: Yeah, motion has been made by Ms. Nelson and second by Mr. Thibodeau. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:44:46, 0:44:47]: Uh [0:44:47, 0:44:49]: Those opposed, as have it. [0:44:50, 0:44:52]: The motion to adjourn is carried. [0:44:54, 0:44:54]: Pardon me? [0:44:56, 0:44:57]: Somebody say something. [0:44:59, 0:45:00]: I believe that was Miss Nell. [0:45:01, 0:45:02]: Ms. Nelson? [0:45:05, 0:45:06]: Mr. Nelson, did you say something? [0:45:07, 0:45:08]: No, sir. [0:45:08, 0:45:09]: Okay. [0:45:10, 0:45:14]: That being said, the motion the uh meeting is adjourned until uh [0:45:15, 0:45:17]: What is it? The next one is in November. [0:45:18, 0:45:19]: December second. [0:45:19, 0:45:21]: December second, okay. [0:45:23, 0:45:24]: Hi, well good night everyone. [0:45:25, 0:45:28]: Thank you so much, Chairman. Thank you, Planning Commissioners Jaha. [0:45:28, 0:45:28]: Okay. [0:45:29, 0:45:30]: We'll be in touch. [0:45:30, 0:45:31]: Alrighty. Bye bye. [0:45:31, 0:45:32]: Bye bye. [0:45:33, 0:45:34]: Ms. Mr. Tividone. [0:45:35, 0:45:36]: Mr. Tividor. [0:45:38, 0:45:38]: Yes, sir. [0:45:39, 0:45:42]: No, everybody was leaving. I I thought you had something you wanted to say to me. [0:45:43, 0:45:45]: Yeah, but I uh I just call me. [0:45:45, 0:45:49]: Call you, we'll do. All right. All right. Thank you.

--- title: October 26 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-10-26 source: 2021-10-26_October_26_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:11, 0:00:12]: Doing great, doing great. [0:00:14, 0:00:15]: We are here. [0:00:15, 0:00:21]: Getting ready for the uh greatest event that's going to take place ever in life, and that is Fam U Homecoming. [0:00:21, 0:00:23]: All right now. [0:00:23, 0:00:24]: Let's make it. [0:00:24, 0:00:29]: The single greatest assembling of everybody anywhere be this weekend in Tallahassee, Florida. [0:00:29, 0:00:31]: Oh yes, okay. [0:00:31, 0:00:34]: I agree with you on that, Tony. Yes. [0:00:35, 0:00:36]: So [0:00:36, 0:00:38]: Yeah, so we will be [0:00:38, 0:00:42]: Unavailable for anything until Monday. Well probably Tuesday actually. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: Thank you. [0:01:01, 0:01:02]: Yeah. [0:01:02, 0:01:05]: Mary's having some complications. I'm gonna try to get him on. [0:01:06, 0:01:06]: Okay. [0:01:40, 0:01:41]: Uh uh [0:02:29, 0:02:30]: So [0:03:16, 0:03:19]: Well, I'm finally here. [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: Let's see here. [0:03:36, 0:03:42]: Hi ladies and gentlemen, sorry about my delay. It's what you call headspace and timing problem there. [0:03:42, 0:03:50]: In between the ears, right? Anyway, we're here all now. So, anyway, so I think we have a quorum, obviously. Um, so I have now. [0:03:51, 0:03:55]: Uh six oh four. All right. So I like to call this um [0:03:55, 0:03:56]: Wor council work session. [0:03:57, 0:04:02]: Tuesday the twenty sixth of october two thousand and twenty-one to order. [0:04:02, 0:04:06]: On that note, uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, please give him location. [0:04:06, 0:04:08]: Would everyone bow your heads, please? [0:04:10, 0:04:11]: Our Lord who dwelt in heaven. [0:04:12, 0:04:13]: Please give us the guise. [0:04:13, 0:04:14]: Wisdom. [0:04:15, 0:04:17]: To do the city's business. [0:04:18, 0:04:22]: With regard to our citizens to make sure their welfare [0:04:23, 0:04:24]: In their best interests. [0:04:25, 0:04:27]: Is the bidding that we do this evening? [0:04:27, 0:04:30]: Please bless every official on this. [0:04:31, 0:04:32]: Meeting tonight. [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: With health, wellness. [0:04:35, 0:04:38]: And to make sure that they are doing the bidding. [0:04:38, 0:04:39]: Of the citizens. [0:04:40, 0:04:43]: This is what we're charged with doing. This is our foremost task. [0:04:44, 0:04:47]: And we will do it in your way as we are seeking the light. [0:04:48, 0:04:50]: to do what's best for our community. [0:04:50, 0:04:52]: Make sure that we feed the hungry. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: Make sure that we [0:04:54, 0:05:14]: Do what's best to deal with the ills in society. Make sure that we can do what's best to keep this community safe, prosperous, and well-being. We know that it is you that has brought us to this point, this point at the appointed time to move this city in the right direction under your guidance and under your [0:05:14, 0:05:15]: More code. [0:05:15, 0:05:35]: We know that you you know all and that you see all and that you have and that you will guide us in the ways to do the right thing and to make sure that we understand it is you, it is all you that sees, hears, and adjusts based on what our needs, what is best for us. [0:05:35, 0:05:48]: for us whether we know it or not. Thank you, Lord, for being who you are and what you are and the force in our lives for good. Thank you. Amen. Amen. [0:05:49, 0:05:50]: Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:05:53, 0:06:06]: A pledge of allegiance to the foreign. And to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:15, 0:06:17]: For some reason here, um [0:06:21, 0:06:26]: We need to take uh we need to take the um Madam Clerk, we need to take a roll call, make sure we have a coin. [0:06:31, 0:06:32]: May afford. [0:06:32, 0:06:32]: Present. [0:06:33, 0:06:34]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:06:34, 0:06:36]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:37, 0:06:37]: That's it. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: Councilman Blount. [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Present. [0:06:40, 0:06:41]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:42, 0:06:44]: Present. Councilman Thomas. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Present. [0:06:45, 0:06:50]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you very much. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:06:56, 0:07:14]: Well, I was suggesting if if this is proper. Um items five and six that deal with a second reading for the UDC along with the actual zoning map. Um, like for us to um delay that until January. Additional review is needed in this aspect and the pleasure. [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: Some move. [0:07:17, 0:07:18]: Okay, zero second. [0:07:19, 0:07:20]: That's it. [0:07:20, 0:07:22]: Okay, all in favor please indicate. [0:07:24, 0:07:28]: Thank you. It looks like it's unanimous. Okay, and that aspect. Now what I Yes, sir. [0:07:29, 0:07:49]: Can we amend the agenda to at least open either for uh discussion or an update uh pertaining to uh the mitigation, beautification, and uh uh um of uh um leash in the widening of lease street in um east Atlanta? Also, um if there [0:07:49, 0:08:00]: If including a discussion will give us even an update or something on that pertaining to those areas. And if there's a schedule for sound check, I would like that to be a part of it also. [0:08:01, 0:08:05]: Well I would tell you why my understanding is that's gonna be on the agenda for uh eighth of November. [0:08:07, 0:08:15]: We'll we'll have we'll talk about those issues eighth and over. If if I stand corrected, uh city attorneys, I believe that is that is a true. Is that case? Is that right? [0:08:19, 0:08:21]: I believe so, Mary. I believe so. [0:08:22, 0:08:25]: I think that's supposed to be on the agenda uh for the next meeting. [0:08:25, 0:08:29]: Right. Well we'll we'll talk about things distentibly then. [0:08:30, 0:08:40]: Okay. Mayor at uh one more question at this point, sir. For his events for the amphitheater, for his concerts for the year. Uh yes, we are, sir. [0:08:40, 0:08:40]: Okay. [0:08:41, 0:08:43]: Thank you. Um [0:08:44, 0:09:04]: Also, I'd like to I'm sorry, I'd like to also mention to you that uh item number 11 um is uh we're not prepared for that. We don't have the proper amount of individual that is qualified for the uh member of the planning commission. So I'd like to have a message a mission, excuse me, a motion to um [0:09:04, 0:09:07]: uh take that off the agenda as well until we get qualified people. [0:09:08, 0:09:08]: So move. [0:09:09, 0:09:10]: So a second. [0:09:10, 0:09:12]: Thank you. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:14, 0:09:34]: All right, thank you. And one other thing, because of the removal of the UDC and the zoning, uh we need to have actually add to the agenda uh discussion and approval of extending the moratorium that would end at the end of this month, and we'll need to take it till the the till the January uh 31st and or until we [0:09:33, 0:09:41]: actually have our second reading which we'll have a second reading on the UDC um and the zoning map in uh January. [0:09:41, 0:09:43]: So they're a second. [0:09:45, 0:09:48]: Mr. Blount, okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:49, 0:10:09]: And okay, thank you very much. Now that that discussion or that uh conversation about the moratorium extension will be uh it'll come right before or it's part of the new business. So we'll make it number, we'll make it after the council consideration approved the apply for the governor's uh governor's grant. Okay. [0:10:10, 0:10:11]: We'll take a right there. [0:10:13, 0:10:25]: Okay, so on that note, I will actually now need a motion to adopt the agenda as as as we as is stated. So moved. [0:10:25, 0:10:26]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:10:28, 0:10:48]: Thank you very much. Unanimous is okay. I need a motion to review the minutes from the uh September 13th council meeting and also the September 28th uh council work session. And uh obviously we will approve these um these actual uh minutes during the actual uh next next council meeting. [0:10:48, 0:10:57]: On the eighth of November, but if you know whether or not there's anything that needs to be changed at this time or anything that you have, counsel in reference to this. If not, um [0:10:58, 0:10:59]: We'll move on. [0:10:59, 0:11:01]: So move. Thank you. Is there a second? [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: Ms. Barber Seconds had all in favor, please indicate. [0:11:08, 0:11:15]: Thank you very much. All right, now uh Miss Uh Ms. Holliday, our city clerk, we have any public comments at all? [0:11:15, 0:11:19]: Mayor, we do have one public comment. Please go ahead, read it. [0:11:19, 0:11:22]: Comment submitted by Sunny Rendezzo. [0:11:22, 0:11:25]: Bryant Street, Backbridge, Georgia. [0:11:27, 0:11:31]: I am requesting that all future council meetings are open to the public. [0:11:31, 0:11:33]: The taxpayers have not [0:11:33, 0:11:38]: been allowed to attend meetings in person since two thousand nineteen. [0:11:38, 0:11:43]: In that period, you spent twenty-four million dollars on a music venue. [0:11:43, 0:11:46]: While citizens are crying for traffic relief. [0:11:47, 0:11:52]: You have now hosted two concerts with literally thousands of people attending. [0:11:52, 0:11:59]: In the meantime, we are paying for flashing lights, which might as well say stay out of Stockbridge on concert days. [0:12:00, 0:12:04]: and most likely costing local merchants their normal weekend revenues. [0:12:05, 0:12:08]: I thought we built the amphitheater to attract new businesses. [0:12:09, 0:12:12]: How will that work when we are warning customers? [0:12:13, 0:12:15]: Consumers out of stock reach. [0:12:16, 0:12:21]: The fact that we are still unable to attend meetings in person is hypocritical. [0:12:22, 0:12:23]: And disrespectful. [0:12:24, 0:12:29]: to your constituents. If we can't attend meetings inside City Hall due to COVID. [0:12:30, 0:12:31]: Then hold them outside. [0:12:32, 0:12:33]: At the amphitheater. [0:12:33, 0:12:35]: where we are paying. [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: Four. [0:12:36, 0:12:37]: Also [0:12:37, 0:12:40]: Please provide the citizens with updates tonight. [0:12:41, 0:12:43]: On the plan for noise mitigation. [0:12:43, 0:12:45]: For the community. Thank you. [0:12:46, 0:12:47]: There are no further comments here. [0:12:47, 0:13:07]: Well, thank you for that. And obviously in this uh case, the council, uh, that is something that we need to discuss as a council, as a group, and whether or not uh how when we would want to open that up. So further conversation will have to be had in reference to that. So we'll see how that goes with uh internally and then we'll just make a decision on that note. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. If my if I [0:13:07, 0:13:14]: I may also correct the record, the city council did hold meetings in 2019, so that information was incorrect. [0:13:15, 0:13:17]: Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:13:17, 0:13:23]: Okay. Next is presentation, police services presentation by Chief Frank Trammer. Sir. [0:13:25, 0:13:25]: Please. [0:13:27, 0:13:33]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um I appreciate the opportunity to present this information. I know that uh [0:13:33, 0:13:38]: Uh many of the council members have met with most of you individually and so you've had an opportunity to [0:13:39, 0:13:45]: uh see this information and discuss it, but um I I'm I'm looking forward to the opportunity to [0:13:45, 0:13:50]: uh reveal this to members of the community who are watching this evening as well as other interested parties. [0:13:51, 0:14:04]: My hope is that we can get through this presentation in the span of about 15 minutes. So if we could uh please hold questions till the end of the presentation and we could go back and refer to anything that you might have questions on. [0:14:05, 0:14:09]: Um without uh I guess with uh without further ado. [0:14:10, 0:14:16]: If we could uh go ahead and go through this presentation here. So the first thing that I need to do, I guess, is share my screen. [0:14:17, 0:14:18]: So that you all can see. [0:14:20, 0:14:21]: The presentation. [0:14:22, 0:14:23]: Uh let's see here. [0:14:24, 0:14:25]: Are you all able to see that? [0:14:27, 0:14:30]: should say Stockbridge Police Department Police Services presentation. [0:14:31, 0:14:32]: Yes. We we see it. [0:14:32, 0:14:33]: Okay, yeah, yeah. [0:14:34, 0:14:54]: Excellent. So as it relates to uh the financial uh impact of implementing a police department, uh the personnel obviously are the uh largest expense that the department's gonna have. So the first thing that we need to do in order to accurately project the cost of the police department is to understand what we need in terms of [0:14:54, 0:14:57]: of staffing to be able to provide services to the community. [0:14:57, 0:15:03]: So the first part of this is to project our staffing needs. And the subsequent steps here we will go through. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: Um, some of this will be a little quick. [0:15:06, 0:15:14]: But some of this I think you will find will be a repeat of information that was discussed and was covered in the most recent feasibility study. [0:15:15, 0:15:20]: So the feasibility study that was done in 2020 by the Carl Vinson Institute of Government. [0:15:20, 0:15:28]: uh if you recall projected based on various different uh methodologies used to determine the number of officers needed to provide services to the city. [0:15:29, 0:15:33]: Came up with a range of officers from forty five to eighty four officers. [0:15:34, 0:15:36]: And ultimately it was recommended. [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: By the feasibility study. [0:15:39, 0:15:42]: That Stockbridge start with fifty seven officers. [0:15:44, 0:15:44]: Now [0:15:45, 0:15:46]: A lot of these [0:15:47, 0:16:02]: methodologies here, they're not extremely accurate in terms of determining the exact number of officers that are needed. This is basically just a baseline estimate. So the thing that we want to do is really look at what's called a workload-based staffing methodology. [0:16:03, 0:16:15]: And what this is doing is it's actually looking for the calls for service, looking at the the the service demand in the city, uh determining how much time it takes to address those calls that are coming in from members of the community. [0:16:15, 0:16:22]: And then establishing some other variables that are going to help us arrive at some staffing numbers. And all of this, I promise you, will make sense. [0:16:22, 0:16:42]: Uh as we progress through the presentation. So the first thing that we have to do is we have to understand the true demand for service in the city. So what does that look like? And if you recall in the feasibility study, uh, those of you that uh have read it, and for those of you not familiar with it, one of the issues because of the geography of the city that they had difficult, uh, difficult [0:16:42, 0:16:53]: Time estimating the actual service demand for the city because they were pulling data from various different zones that were close to Stock Ridge, but there may have been calls. [0:16:54, 0:17:05]: that were actually in the city proper and there may have been calls that were not. And so the numbers were really an estimate and it was difficult to accurately project based on those numbers the true demand. [0:17:05, 0:17:11]: The good thing is is that Henry County has recently um gone with a new uh CAD system. [0:17:11, 0:17:16]: And their CAN system has been able to uh by virtue of their G GIS layers. [0:17:17, 0:17:24]: to discriminate what calls actually are part of the city versus what calls are occurring in the county. [0:17:24, 0:17:30]: And so the most recent data that I want to share with you here is from July 2020 to July 2021. [0:17:31, 0:17:33]: And for that entire year period. [0:17:33, 0:17:38]: You can see here there were twenty two thousand eight hundred and sixty two calls for service within the city. [0:17:39, 0:17:51]: If you look down through, you can see some of these crime numbers here and an estimate of stockbridges calls for service versus the county calls for service and also some crime data here, but we'll cover that a little bit later. [0:17:51, 0:17:59]: So the next thing that we have to do is determine how much time does it take an officer to handle uh these 22,000 plus calls that are coming in. [0:18:00, 0:18:06]: And uh we could look at the exact amount of time that was spent and the Carl Benson study did. [0:18:06, 0:18:16]: But they found that the amount of time spent on calls coincided with the IACP best practice for determining the amount of time that officers spend on calls. [0:18:17, 0:18:23]: And uh this is an excerpt from page ten of the Carl Vinson study. It said that on average it takes an officer about forty-five minutes. [0:18:24, 0:18:28]: to handle one call for service. So forty five minutes uh per call. [0:18:29, 0:18:34]: And the next thing that we have to do in order to figure out our staffing is to calculate the shift relief factor. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: And the shift relief factor. [0:18:37, 0:18:44]: In essence is you all understand the fact that a police officer cannot work every single day of the week that [0:18:44, 0:18:56]: You have to allow time for off days and vacation and training along the and and things along those lines. So um again, the national average for relief factor is about 1.84. So what that means in essence. [0:18:56, 0:19:03]: Is that for every position that requires one officer to staff that position, you basically need one point eight four officers. [0:19:03, 0:19:16]: in order to provide continuity of service. And so of course we can't have 1.84 officers. So you would need two officers to staff every ship for which it requires one officer. And this'll this will be relevant here in just a moment. [0:19:17, 0:19:22]: So the next thing that we have to do is establish our performance objectives. And what we mean by performance objectives. [0:19:23, 0:19:30]: Uh is basically how much discretionary time do we want our officers to have to be able to engage? [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: And true community policing effort. [0:19:32, 0:19:49]: And uh we aspire to be a police department that has time to get out and and interact with the community, to engage in foot patrols, to um attend neighborhood association meetings in various different uh civic and community functions. We want our officers to be able to have time to do that. [0:19:50, 0:19:50]: Um [0:19:51, 0:19:57]: It it and and according to studies that have been done, and there's the notation here from the ICP. [0:19:57, 0:20:05]: that that if those standards, those performance standards, fall below 35%, what you're essentially dealing with is a reactive police force. [0:20:05, 0:20:18]: Is that they are responding to calls for service. They're not proactively addressing problems in the community. Um, they're not truly engaging in community policing. And having come from Atlanta and especially at the onset of Sandy Springs. [0:20:19, 0:20:28]: Um the calls were such that you didn't have a lot of time to really get out and engage and put patrols and different activities with members of the communities because you're running from call to call to call. [0:20:28, 0:20:37]: So the the the the recommendation, and there are several different recommendations. The recommendations basically between 40 to 50 percent of an officer's time. [0:20:37, 0:20:50]: be uncommitted so that that officer has an opportunity to engage either in uh uh community policing or some sort of proactive policing measure, whether that be traffic forcement or hotspot policing or something along those lines. [0:20:51, 0:20:52]: Now [0:20:52, 0:21:07]: If we were to incorporate those standards here, the I the the IECP recommends that an officer have about 45% of their uh schedule uncommitted, unobligated, so that they can engage in these proactive or community policing functions. [0:21:08, 0:21:11]: Uh the International City and Managers Association um [0:21:11, 0:21:14]: Their standard is forty percent unobligated time. [0:21:14, 0:21:22]: But the police allocation model through Northwestern University School Police Staff and Command recommends fifty percent. So you can see there's a range there between 40. [0:21:23, 0:21:29]: the fifty percent, but we really don't want to fall below forty percent because what happens here is we get into a reactive mode of policing and we're not able to provide. [0:21:30, 0:21:31]: true community policing. [0:21:31, 0:21:37]: So based on these different models here, when we uh do the calculations, which you'll see here in just a moment. [0:21:37, 0:21:45]: Utilizing the first model, the fifty percent unobligated time would require thirty-eight officers. And I want you to understand this is not inclusive of supervisors. [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: Um [0:21:47, 0:21:51]: Um or I'm sorry, this is not inclusive of a support stand. [0:21:51, 0:22:01]: If we were to go the route of 45% based on the IECP recommendation, it would require 35 officers. These are patrol officers. And the ICMA model would require 32 officers. [0:22:03, 0:22:13]: The next thing we have to do is calculate our staffing estimates. And so I want to take you through how we arrived at these numbers that I'm going to share with you here in just a moment. So if you refer back to or if you recall the information that we presented previously. [0:22:13, 0:22:21]: Um the calls for service during the uh the year period from July to July, July 2020, July 2021. [0:22:21, 0:22:24]: was twenty two thousand eight hundred and sixty-two calls for service. [0:22:25, 0:22:31]: If you recall, it takes an officer an average of about 45 minutes to handle those calls. So we multiply that by a factor of 0.75. [0:22:31, 0:22:41]: And we arrive at a number of 17,147. This is basically the number of hours that is required of an officer to be able to handle the service demand for the city. [0:22:42, 0:22:49]: We have our relief factor, which has already been calculated for us. And this number number right here, as we said before, is a variable number. So between 40 to 50 percent. [0:22:49, 0:22:50]: Um [0:22:50, 0:22:55]: of uncommitted time that we need to engage in community policing. So just taking you through [0:22:55, 0:23:00]: The calculations here, you take the number from number two, the seventeen thousand one hundred and forty-seven. [0:23:00, 0:23:15]: uh hours that are required for an officer to provide service and we divide that by a variable of 0.5, which would represent 50% uncommitted time, it would require 34,294 total yearly officer hours to provide that level of service. [0:23:16, 0:23:17]: Now [0:23:17, 0:23:33]: With the model that we're looking at, we're looking at 12-hour shifts. So an officer on a 12-hour shift would work 2196 hours a year. So we divide that number there. And it would come up with 15.62 officers. And again, we can't go with a 0.62. We always have to round up on these. [0:23:34, 0:23:45]: So it would require six officers to be able to meet this demand if they did not take any time off. It would be 16 officers to meet this demand without taking any vacation, any training, or time off. [0:23:45, 0:23:50]: That's where our relief factor comes into play. So we multiply that 16 by 1.84. [0:23:50, 0:23:58]: Gives us 29.44. So essentially 30 officers it will require a bus in order to provide services factoring in. [0:23:59, 0:24:00]: The um [0:24:00, 0:24:01]: Um [0:24:02, 0:24:02]: The off time. [0:24:03, 0:24:12]: The recommended recommendation for police officer to supervisor ratio is one to seven. So if we take that number of 30 officers divided by seven, we end up with 4.28. [0:24:12, 0:24:28]: times the relief factor because again the supervisors are going to need time off. That's going to give us 7.88 or eight supervisors. So for the patrol function, it requires essentially 30 officers and eight supervisors using the 50-50 time month. And again, these numbers would scale down based on whether we use [0:24:28, 0:24:31]: Fifty percent, forty five, or forty percent. [0:24:32, 0:24:32]: So [0:24:33, 0:24:47]: The other recommendation or the other uh best practice is that 60% of your personnel be assigned to patrol or call answering functions. These would be your officers and your mark units, whether it be your traffic unit, your crime suppression, your canine, your patrol units. [0:24:47, 0:24:52]: Um the officers actually performing uh the the the the traditional police function. [0:24:52, 0:24:53]: Uh and you need [0:24:54, 0:25:07]: Uh on average, about 40% of your staff or support functions. That would be investigation, training, and other administrative uh functions that would be required to run the department. So if we add 40% to that, we're at 53.2. [0:25:07, 0:25:11]: And again, we have to round that up. So fifty-four officers based on [0:25:11, 0:25:16]: the actual calls for service if we were to go with fifty percent uncommitted time. [0:25:17, 0:25:24]: So the next slide that I want to share with you is what these numbers would look like depending on what model we go with. If we went with the police allocation model. [0:25:25, 0:25:31]: We require 38 officers. We add 40% to that, gives us 54 sworn officers. If we go with the IST model. [0:25:31, 0:25:46]: Uh 35 officers plus 40% of that's 49%. And as we go down to 60 and 40 uncommitted time, that's 32 officers with 40% gives you 45 sworn officers in order to be able to provide that quality of service or that level of service to the community. [0:25:47, 0:25:55]: Now, if you were to look at based on crime comparisons, and you can see what I put together is some similarly situated cities. [0:25:55, 0:26:05]: that are roughly the equivalent population of the city of Stockbridge. And so you see our violent crime ratio is 2.37, our property crime ratio is 30.47. [0:26:05, 0:26:13]: And if we were to come up with an average of the number of officers that we need based on our crime ratio, that number would be about 75. [0:26:13, 0:26:21]: Now, I don't believe based on the workload assessment that we need that, but if we were to use the comparison cities and what they have for officers, that's the model that we would be looking at. [0:26:22, 0:26:23]: So in essence [0:26:23, 0:26:33]: This is what I came up with based on the workload-based methodology is we would need at a minimum 45 officers to a maximum of 75. [0:26:33, 0:26:41]: But the optimal range really would be somewhere between 56 and 62 sworn officers to provide the level of service that we would desire to provide for the community. [0:26:42, 0:26:48]: So based on that, the next thing that we have to do is figure out our organizational structure, how are we going to break the department down? [0:26:48, 0:26:59]: So optimally based on the high end of that range, the 62 number, uh, it would require 62 full-time sworn uh staff and nine civilian employees for a total of 71 officers. This would be optimally. [0:26:59, 0:27:10]: Um, the cost for that would at the at the low end be about six and a half million dollars up to the high end of$7.1 million. And this would be if we brought everybody in at the max range. [0:27:10, 0:27:20]: of the pay scale, which is not likely. So the more realistic number is probably going to fall somewhere in the mid-range there. So for the staffing model, it would re it it would be roughly equivalent to$6.9 million. [0:27:21, 0:27:27]: If we were to go with another scenario and we were look at the low end of that optimal range, fifty-six officers with nine support staff. [0:27:28, 0:27:35]: Uh what that looks like is on the very high end would be about six and a half million dollars, mid-range six point three, on the low end about six million dollars. [0:27:37, 0:27:42]: If we go to the next scenario here and slightly scale down from that at 54 officers, nine support staff. [0:27:42, 0:27:48]: Uh what we would be looking at is roughly 6.3 on the high end, 6.1 the mid end. [0:27:48, 0:27:51]: and five point eight conservatively on the low end. [0:27:51, 0:28:00]: And the last scenario I want to present to you here is the IACP recommendation. This is the 49 officers based on the 45% uncommitted time. [0:28:00, 0:28:02]: And if we were to go that route. [0:28:03, 0:28:16]: what that would look like conservatively on the low end the department would end up costing about 5.4 million. More realistically, probably closer to 5.7, and on the high end, about$5.8 million for this particular staffing model. [0:28:18, 0:28:38]: Now we've got our organizational structure determined, which is important because that helps us calculate salaries and wages. One of the things I've been able to do is do a salary study based on what other police agencies in the Metro Atlanta area are paying their officers. And of course, we want to be competitive. The average uh starting salary for police officer. [0:28:37, 0:28:52]: the metro Atlanta area is about$44,000. On the very high end, it's about$63,000. And according to our current pay plan for the city, our minimum starting salary for an officer would be about$43,159. And the maximum salary would be$64,000. [0:28:53, 0:29:13]: Um, this is just uh in line with the department's current pace structure. And you can see uh let's say for an example, um, that we took we look at a police officer here. Police officer would be roughly the equivalent of grade uh pay grade 111 for the city. Uh if this officer were to come in with generally with no experience, that officer would be on the low end of the scale there starting. [0:29:13, 0:29:15]: Yeah, forty three thousand one fifty nine. [0:29:16, 0:29:26]: Now, this is a tiered system that we take into account what an officer is bringing to the table, their training, their credentials, their certifications. The more points they have, the higher they'll fall on this matrix. [0:29:27, 0:29:31]: And these levels here are basically uh based on your education level. So an A six. [0:29:32, 0:29:37]: This would be the equivalent of an associate's degree. This would be equivalent of a bachelor's uh a bachelor's up to a master's degree. [0:29:38, 0:29:58]: And so, say for instance, if you have an associate's degree and you have 50 points, your starting salary would be roughly$49,000. That's how we come up with this matrix. And we have a similar scale for the various different positions. And this is just some of the other levels that we were considering. So you can see what the salary range is there. And again, all of these salary ranges. [0:29:58, 0:30:04]: We've done a salary study so that these salaries are in line with the Metro Atlanta average. [0:30:05, 0:30:22]: So then we need to look at the the uh the the annual cost, right? What's the department gonna cost us? If you recall from the Carl Vinson study here, um it said personnel service is gonna be about 4.6, operating costs a little over a million. Their number was 5.688, which is very close to what we come up with in terms of what we would need to provide. [0:30:22, 0:30:39]: uh scenario three in terms of service, but what that did not take into account is the cost of inflation. So the six million dollar number is roughly the equivalent of what it would uh what it would be in today's dollars based on uh based on that study with a 3% inflation. This is projecting out into 2022. [0:30:40, 0:30:55]: These are numbers from scenario three that we had discussed with that ICMA model. 49 officers, nine support staff would at the low end be about 5.4 million, mid-range 5.6, and on the high end about 5.8 million total annual costs. [0:30:56, 0:31:08]: This is just an FYI slide looking at what other similarly situated cities are paying for police services. You can see here McDonough has 63 officers. Their annual police budget's$5.9, almost$6 million. [0:31:09, 0:31:12]: Um Carolton has 82, theirs is 8.5. [0:31:12, 0:31:25]: And if we were to go with a per capita rate, um, then then that's where this 8 million number comes from. I'm not saying that that's the number that would be required. This would probably be the number that would be required if we will have that maximum range of 75 officers. [0:31:25, 0:31:30]: Which again, based on the workload, I don't think is uh is is necessary or appropriate. [0:31:30, 0:31:37]: So we've got the annual operating costs. Uh, we're estimating the startup cost, and this is just a breakdown of the startup cost by category. [0:31:38, 0:31:46]: So included in the background and recruitment expenses would be fees associated with polygraph, psychological, medical screening. [0:31:46, 0:31:49]: Um and uh and and um uh [0:31:50, 0:32:05]: some various different um other other functions. One of the things is a variable expense here is what some agencies are doing is they're actually paying a hiring incentive or a hiring bonus uh to bring officers into the organization. And I honestly believe, I mean, I've had probably 150 to 200 [0:32:05, 0:32:25]: um people reach out to me already expressing interest in coming and joining the department um just since that's been announced. And honestly, I don't know that we would need to implement a bonus system to attract people. This number is taking into account if we were to implement that, that that would be a potential cost in addition to some of the other recruitment and background costs. [0:32:25, 0:32:35]: There will be some minor renovations probably needed to be made to the police facility. We've estimated those at about a half a million dollars and then about$250,000 in furnishing. [0:32:35, 0:32:45]: Uh the next um item here is it relates to fleet. Uh the number of vehicles that we required to staff this department would uh would would be about 58 vehicles. [0:32:45, 0:32:58]: And um uh that's to allow too for uh extra vehicles in the event that a vehicle gets crashed or something along those lines uh were to occur. And to purchase those vehicles outright would be about 2.9. [0:32:59, 0:33:00]: The three million dollars. [0:33:00, 0:33:04]: Uh the mobile radios, you can see the cost there, in-car cameras, mobile printers. [0:33:04, 0:33:18]: We get into technology, another um uh significant expense would be a report management system. That would be uh the system that's utilized to dispatch calls for officers to run information, to generate reports. [0:33:18, 0:33:25]: This would basically be the software that would be using to conduct business in terms of reporting information to the FBI. [0:33:26, 0:33:30]: for crime reporting purposes and just documenting all the instances that are occurring in the city. [0:33:31, 0:33:35]: Uh software expenses, telecommunications, printers, you can see all these things here, web services. [0:33:35, 0:33:44]: Uh uniform and gear, and and you know, I've got all this stuff broken down. You can see to equip the entire department based on that model, 49 officers, nine civilian employees. [0:33:44, 0:33:51]: Would be about 185,000. Uh portable radios, 290,000, ballistic vest, 42, body worn cameras, about 34. [0:33:52, 0:33:56]: Uh then ammunition, tasers, rifles, pistols, you can see the costs associated with that. [0:33:56, 0:34:06]: And um so so we would be looking at a total startup cost of about six point one million dollars if we were to purchase all these things outright. And what's what's notated here in red. [0:34:07, 0:34:12]: is expenses that could be reimbursable either through ARPA funds or through the acquisition of grants. [0:34:13, 0:34:30]: If we were able to max out the total reimbursable expense, the total after reimbursable expenses would be about$1.8 million. And we have$3 million bonded, which would mean that if we were able to do that, then we wouldn't need necessarily that entire$3 million that's been bonded for the police department. [0:34:31, 0:34:45]: So those are the expenses, but we need to know what are the revenues, right? And again, this is information that you have seen before through the Carl Benson study. Uh it was estimated that property tax rollback would be about 1.9 or uh$1.9 million. [0:34:45, 0:34:56]: Um the city's contribution for supplemental services through the county at 500,000, estimated revenue from municipal court. And that's where we get our revenue amounts, so$2.9 million roughly. [0:34:56, 0:35:00]: And then we subtract that from the total operating cost, which gives us our budget shortfall. [0:35:01, 0:35:06]: First figure there is based on the Carl Benson study. Second figure is the low end of that scale of 5.4. [0:35:07, 0:35:15]: For the 49 officers, nine civilian staff, and at the high end, 5.8, we would be looking at a max a budget deficit of about$2.9 million. [0:35:16, 0:35:36]: So this is the range for budget shortfall. And from last meeting when Mr. Harris was on, he indicated that this would cost. So if we were to have to implement at the maximum range three mills in a local property tax to be able to offset these expenses, that would equate to [0:35:36, 0:35:40]: to uh roughly$105 for a$225,000 home. [0:35:41, 0:35:45]: And uh that would equate to about eight point seven five dollars per month. [0:35:45, 0:35:49]: Or eight dollars and seventy five cents rather, uh, if we had to implement [0:35:50, 0:35:50]: The text. [0:35:51, 0:35:58]: Now there's some other things that the Carl Vincent report did not take into consideration. And one of the big things is the American Rescue Plan. [0:35:58, 0:36:09]: Uh, since that was relatively new, there were a lot of questions as to what those funds could be utilized for. And I'll show you here in just a moment that uh there are a number of agencies who are using American Rescue Plan Act funds. [0:36:10, 0:36:16]: to purchase things related to public safety, assuming that certain criteria is met. [0:36:17, 0:36:27]: So I was able to obtain, excuse me, for just a moment from Mr. Wiggins, uh the city's currently received about$5.6 million in ARPA funds. [0:36:27, 0:36:42]: And it's estimated the city will receive uh potentially uh close to 11 million, if not maybe slightly more than that, up to 14 million, based upon a supplemental program that I believe Mr. Aaron will be presenting on later. So uh potentially$14 million in ARPA funding. [0:36:43, 0:36:44]: So um [0:36:45, 0:36:55]: That there's there's tremendous potential there to utilize that to offset some of these expenses. On average, agencies are are obtaining between 50 to half a million dollars a year in grant funding to offset expenses. [0:36:55, 0:37:15]: Um municipal court fines was projected at$1.3 million. But one of the things that we need to take in consideration is through the implementation of local criminal ordinances, that will be another element that will be processed through municipal court. So I would anticipate that you would see fees through municipal court increase, which would also increase probation fees. [0:37:16, 0:37:21]: Uh police departments generally uh bring in about$120,000 annually in uh [0:37:21, 0:37:39]: confiscated property, asset forfeitures. This can't be used to offset our budget, but these funds can be used to provide things for like training and equipment, so on and so forth. And on average, most agencies are bringing about$55,000 a year in license and permits and other charges associated with operating the police department, which you can see here. [0:37:39, 0:37:59]: There are a lot of grant funding opportunities out there. As you recall from the operating costs, so body cameras at$34,400. You can potentially get grant funding to offset that as long as well as with in-car video. Radio is less lethal, the report management system, computers, so on and so forth. There are a ton of grant opportunities that exist. [0:37:59, 0:38:02]: out there, it just takes time to apply for those. [0:38:03, 0:38:08]: So if we were to take into consideration uh uh potential [0:38:08, 0:38:12]: increase in uh uh fine fees through municipal court. [0:38:12, 0:38:16]: uh we could potentially increase the uh the court [0:38:16, 0:38:17]: Um [0:38:18, 0:38:22]: fees and that would be roughly the equivalent of about, you know. [0:38:22, 0:38:22]: Uh [0:38:23, 0:38:30]: $950,000 there. We were able to secure$250,000 conservatively in grant funding and other revenue sources. [0:38:30, 0:38:38]: You can see here that we're still having a budget shortfall. However, that budget shortfall has reduced considerably, which would offset uh the cost. [0:38:38, 0:38:45]: that would need to be um implemented in terms of uh the the uh property tax and millage rate. [0:38:45, 0:38:51]: Now, as it relates to ARPA funding, one of the things that I wanted to point out to you was that uh President Biden had announced [0:38:51, 0:38:56]: that law enforcement organizations are able to utilize ARPA funding. [0:38:56, 0:38:58]: to essentially reduce um [0:38:59, 0:38:59]: Uh um [0:39:00, 0:39:08]: Um instances of crime. So communities have been impacted, especially as it relates to violent crime and gun crime by the COVID pandemic. [0:39:08, 0:39:19]: um they can utilize these funds to um address these issues and provide safe and secure cities. So uh if you look at that communities uh this is directly from the ARPA um [0:39:20, 0:39:30]: site here communities experiencing a surge in gun violence as a result of pandemic may use the American Rescue Plan's$350 million in state and local funding for purchases such as hiring law enforcement officials. [0:39:30, 0:39:33]: additional enforcement efforts and investing in technology and equipment. [0:39:34, 0:39:51]: Now, the catch to this is that you're you're you have to show a nexus between how you're spending that money and that that money is going to be used to reduce violent crime. And so what you have to first be able to prove is that your community has seen an increase in violent crime. [0:39:51, 0:39:53]: As a result of the pandemic [0:39:53, 0:40:07]: And if it has, then anything that you do in terms of these areas right here, you could potentially use that ARPA funding to offset costs associated with that in hopes of bringing the crime down. So I was able to obtain crime statistics for the city. [0:40:07, 0:40:15]: And it was apparent that violent crime has risen significantly during the pandemic in the city of Stockbridge, especially in the area of homicide and aggravated assaults. [0:40:15, 0:40:24]: So based on the crime data that we have, you can see there that Stockbridge is basically 4.19 or 4.19% of the overall land mass in the county. [0:40:25, 0:40:31]: And it equ it it equates to uh or is responsible for for almost a quarter of the crime in the county. [0:40:31, 0:40:42]: So considering the land mass we occupy and the amount of crime that we have, uh, Stockbridge is responsible for 38% of the robberies, 38% of or 30% of homicides, and 20% of overall aggravated assaults. [0:40:43, 0:41:03]: across the county. And so based on this information here, I'm certain that we would qualify. And there's no I mean, there's no greater way to qualify than say, hey, listen, we're implementing an entire police department to address these issues. And I believe that a vast majority of the um the expenses that we have associated with the police department, that we could use those funds to do that. And this is just an over [0:41:03, 0:41:23]: So you can see for yourself, these are excerpts from some news articles about how other agencies are using the ARPA funding. So you can see here that there are agencies using it to purchase communications equipment, agencies using it to purchase police vehicles, to acquire technology. Lorraine in Ohio used it to hire police officers. [0:41:22, 0:41:24]: And um [0:41:24, 0:41:43]: You can see here this is from the city of uh Lompet that uh they're using ARPA funding, 521,000 to purchase body cameras, 805,000 for police vehicles, 650,000 for radios, and a million dollars of that funding they're using for police uh for the CAD system, which would be the equivalent of that RMS system that we spoke of. [0:41:43, 0:41:59]: So there's tremendous potential to offset these expenses through the utilization of some of those funds and all those funds have not been committed uh committed to. I believe that uh roughly we've we've currently allocated about two million dollars in the ARPA funds that we have for projects. [0:41:59, 0:42:19]: um particularly associated with sewer water and stormwater projects, but that still leaves a considerable portion to our discretion in terms of uh how we would like to utilize that. So in essence, if we were to, and these funds can be used through December 31st of 2024, if we were to use these funds, then we could potentially offset the expense of implementation [0:42:19, 0:42:31]: of the police department and we could we could potentially forego the entire year of 2023 in a best case scenario of incorporating any sort of supplemental property tax to provide police services for the city. [0:42:32, 0:42:51]: Now there were a couple other questions that I wanted to uh or or or I think outliers uh some unknowns that existed out there. And I want y'all to understand that uh as it relates to uh additional services that we will not be able to provide uh by virtue of our size and scope, say for instance SWAT or crisis negotiations or canine units. [0:42:52, 0:43:01]: traffic reconstruction, those services can and will be provided. I've had the opportunity to talk both with the chief of police in Henry County and the Sheriff of Henry County. [0:43:01, 0:43:16]: Um that the city is not going to incur any additional expenses. Uh, we would have to you know negotiate a memorandum of understanding we would be able to receive these services um at no additional cost to the city. 911 costs are offset by 911 fees that are paid. Um [0:43:16, 0:43:18]: uh through our residents. [0:43:18, 0:43:36]: And um so that's all all great information here. So July implementation is what we uh we're shooting for, July 1 in terms of the implementation timeframe, and that's very much doable. Uh we currently have some uh listening sessions, town hall meetings planned. I believe we have one on November 6th, the Merle Manors. [0:43:36, 0:43:40]: at ten AM in another uh virtual town hall November sixteenth to [0:43:40, 0:43:50]: Uh gather some input from the community regarding uh the desired scope of service. And we have enough time uh based on those listening sessions to make modifications based on the needs of the community. [0:43:50, 0:43:55]: In December, we would look at onboarding key members of our team to begin with the implementation. [0:43:55, 0:44:08]: Uh we would need to look in January and Henry County said that they would be prepared to move out of the facility uh as soon as January 1, should we need uh to do that so that we can begin looking at how do we need to uh uh you know. [0:44:09, 0:44:12]: renovate the building to meet the needs of the department. [0:44:12, 0:44:22]: Um around April we'd be recruiting our staff, our full complement of staff, and we'd be onboarding all those folks in June of 2022 for implementation on July 1st of 2022. [0:44:22, 0:44:25]: And the advantages of implementation in 2022. [0:44:26, 0:44:27]: I think um [0:44:27, 0:44:33]: um you know really most importantly is the citizens i believe are going to receive an enhanced level of service most immediately. [0:44:33, 0:44:53]: Uh the other thing is that because of Henry County's fiscal cycle, that um if they were to uh if we were to do this July 1, we would receive the full$1.9 million dollars uh in rollback for police services from the county plus the$500,000 in supplemental services. At that time, we too could begin collecting municipal court fines and revenues. [0:44:54, 0:44:59]: Um and um uh implementation half year in July twenty two. [0:44:59, 0:45:06]: Uh I believe I I I quated that it would cost us about$3.3 million because we're not funding for the entire year. [0:45:07, 0:45:08]: And um [0:45:08, 0:45:20]: I believe that during your budget retreat,$2.6 million from the general fund was allocated for the police budget. But then we get that$1.9 million from the county in July 1. [0:45:20, 0:45:29]: Uh, we essentially would not need to use that entire uh two point six million dollars. We roughly would probably need more realistically about uh one point three. [0:45:29, 0:45:35]: uh million dollars additional from the general fund to be able to offset those expenses. [0:45:35, 0:45:37]: For that half year of police service. [0:45:38, 0:45:43]: So that's down and dirty and it is a little longer. It did take me a little longer than what I had hoped for. [0:45:43, 0:45:49]: But um that's that's all I have and hopefully that uh that was some [0:45:50, 0:45:52]: Some questions here, so [0:45:53, 0:46:13]: Uh thanks a lot, Chief. Appreciate the brief. Very thorough brief in this aspect uh from all from the nuts and bolts uh into the planning aspect, the timeline, the funding aspect, and the half in reference to the initiation, initial date to start the department. And very thorough. Uh I know the council has several questions. One of the things that uh that uh [0:46:13, 0:46:33]: besides the financial aspect that way you laid it out and the funding and and the timeline, the fact that you you indicated that you had uh several, several calls of interested individuals, hopefully highly, highly qualified individuals, of course, and that's all we will need and a diverse police force uh to come to stop bridge. And I appreciate the fact that knowing that people individually [0:46:33, 0:46:46]: Individuals are very interested in coming to this way and serving in this community. So on that note, I'll uh I'll uh defer to any council members that have some questions, concerns uh in reference to your brief. Uh anybody lit up? [0:46:47, 0:46:48]: Anybody? [0:46:50, 0:46:54]: Any questions uh for okay, Mayor Potem, I'll see you first then. Go ahead, sir. [0:46:54, 0:46:58]: All right, thank you, Chief. I want to thank you for the excellent presentation. [0:46:58, 0:47:03]: Uh you you put a lot of work into it. Uh you went over it with the council. [0:47:04, 0:47:24]: And from the very first moment that we uh discussed your uh coming to the city of Stockbridge, you said something that captured my support for you, which was it's the Citizens Police Department. Doesn't belong to the city council, doesn't belong to you, it's the citizens police department. [0:47:23, 0:47:24]: Right. [0:47:24, 0:47:26]: And by doing so [0:47:26, 0:47:44]: You have ventured to say that our first town hall meeting in partnership with the citizens is November the 6th. And that way you will go out and talk with the citizens and be able to discuss the appropriate size force that they want to see in their police department, which is coming. [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: To the city of Stockbridge. [0:47:46, 0:47:48]: All of those are key factors. [0:47:49, 0:47:50]: In in moving forward with this. [0:47:51, 0:47:55]: And the thing that uh stood out most to me from your report. [0:47:55, 0:47:58]: That I see every day in the community. [0:47:58, 0:48:02]: І цна чист рум крим із інкріжд. [0:48:03, 0:48:06]: We have seen a number of homicides. [0:48:06, 0:48:10]: In the community, as well as an increase in aggravated assaults. [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: Гункрим, робріс. [0:48:12, 0:48:15]: And the time for the us to is to react. [0:48:15, 0:48:16]: uh is now. [0:48:17, 0:48:18]: I I did um [0:48:19, 0:48:22]: key in on a couple of items that you mentioned as well, which was [0:48:22, 0:48:24]: There will be no city tax. [0:48:24, 0:48:25]: in twenty twenty two. [0:48:26, 0:48:28]: And let me say this categorically. [0:48:28, 0:48:30]: For Elton Alexander. [0:48:30, 0:48:32]: There will be no tax in twenty twenty two. [0:48:33, 0:48:38]: And if it's up to me, I shall vote to use some of the fund balance to guarantee. [0:48:38, 0:48:41]: That there's no city tax in twenty twenty three either. [0:48:41, 0:48:42]: So [0:48:42, 0:48:48]: At that point with that we could eng assure the citizens that there will be no city tax in twenty twenty two. [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: And twenty twenty three. [0:48:50, 0:48:52]: Uh, going forward that would be [0:48:52, 0:48:55]: uh a hundred and five dollars a as you mentioned. [0:48:55, 0:49:00]: The key thing that you brought to this whole discussion in terms of the finances. [0:49:01, 0:49:02]: But I want to to question [0:49:02, 0:49:12]: And and I've and I and I asked I've stated that before, that I thought that we should use these ARPA funds to do what is basic, keep this community safe. [0:49:13, 0:49:16]: Using those funds would allow us to [0:49:16, 0:49:21]: Move forward with the police department uh with the least amount of expense. [0:49:21, 0:49:24]: And as you stated, the administration has already said [0:49:24, 0:49:26]: Is can be used to [0:49:26, 0:49:31]: Combat violent crime. We всі violent crime increasing all over Metro Atlanta. [0:49:32, 0:49:33]: So talk about [0:49:33, 0:49:36]: The use of those ARPA funds. [0:49:36, 0:49:39]: In terms of uh starting this police force. [0:49:39, 0:49:41]: Uh July first of twenty. [0:49:42, 0:49:43]: Twenty two. [0:49:46, 0:49:53]: Yeah, so as as most people are aware, three million dollars have been bonded for the implementation of the police department. And um [0:49:54, 0:50:06]: If if we were to use those ARPA funds, if you recall from the startup budget expenses, that that we could essentially use about four point five million dollars from ARPA funds to take care of all the capital expenses. [0:50:06, 0:50:13]: Um and those are those are high range estimates, so it could be lower than that to offset the quality implementation of the police department. [0:50:13, 0:50:30]: Um and as I believe I estimated we would end up with you know maybe needing one to one point five million dollars of the money that had been bonded so that bonded money could be used to offset interest expenses or or or or what have you. I did have the opportunity to speak to Mr. Wall. [0:50:31, 0:50:38]: And I believe that was his recommendation that if we didn't use the full bond amount, that those funds from that bond could be used to offset other expenses. [0:50:38, 0:50:43]: uh which would which would reduce um of course a liability to the city. [0:50:43, 0:50:57]: But again, uh if we decided to use the bond money for its intended purpose and not fully use the ARPA funds for that, we could potentially offset a lot of the salary uh costs of implementation of the department for the full year during 2023. [0:50:59, 0:51:01]: Outstanding, outstanding. I certainly [0:51:01, 0:51:04]: I appreciate that and uh thank you for the presentation. [0:51:05, 0:51:06]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:51:06, 0:51:10]: Any other council members having questions or comments uh for Mr. Tramor? [0:51:12, 0:51:13]: Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [0:51:14, 0:51:15]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:51:16, 0:51:21]: Mr. Trammer, you mentioned the pot y you stated actually that we [0:51:22, 0:51:26]: that there's a possibility that we wouldn't have a tax in twenty twenty two. Is that correct? [0:51:27, 0:51:28]: That's correct. [0:51:29, 0:51:31]: Okay, and repeat how [0:51:32, 0:51:40]: It is that we wouldn't have a tax that's by using the ARPA funds, or is that because the ARPA funds would be for the startup cost of the police department? [0:51:40, 0:51:42]: Not necessarily the operating cost, correct? [0:51:44, 0:51:54]: No, the the ARPA funds could be used for salaries. So it could be used to pay for salaries for w we would have discretion in terms of how we decide to utilize those funds. Uh it's it's it's variable. [0:51:55, 0:52:01]: We could use it for capital expenses, we could use it to hire personnel. It's entirely up to us in terms of what we decide we want to do. [0:52:01, 0:52:07]: Um in in terms of the cost, it I estimated it's gonna be about three point three million dollars. [0:52:07, 0:52:12]: 'Cause we're only we're only talking about a half year. If we implement the police department July one. [0:52:12, 0:52:16]: It will cost us about three point three million dollars to be exact, three [0:52:16, 0:52:24]: Uh three million three hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars is the estimate to implement in the police department. I'm I'm gonna get my calculator out here, so bear with me just a second. [0:52:25, 0:52:39]: So three million three hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars and that would be for essentially seven months of the department because we have to onboard the complement of staff in June to get them trained and equipped and up to speed so that they can roll out July one. [0:52:39, 0:52:55]: So we have to estimate of that five point seven, five point eight million dollars that uh we basically need seven months of that. And so what we're gonna get too is we're gonna get the rollback July one. We're so we'll essentially be receiving um uh [0:52:55, 0:53:08]: $1,968,000 from the county in rollback, which leaves us with a deficit of$1,357,000. That would be what we would have to make up for. [0:53:09, 0:53:10]: Either through fund balance. [0:53:11, 0:53:15]: or through ARPA funding. So that would be the budget shortfall for the first year implementation. [0:53:16, 0:53:18]: Which we could do without the implementation of a tank. [0:53:19, 0:53:23]: Okay. So that's about that's a little bit over half a year. So [0:53:23, 0:53:23]: We're looking at [0:53:24, 0:53:27]: Five months worth. That's about five months. [0:53:27, 0:53:27]: Right. [0:53:28, 0:53:30]: So you what's the total cost for those five months again? [0:53:31, 0:53:38]: for for the seven months. The total cost for those seven months would be three million three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. Okay,'cause you're starting in June, I'm sorry. Right. [0:53:38, 0:53:41]: All right, for the seven month three million, what now? [0:53:41, 0:53:43]: Three million three hundred twenty five thousand dollars. [0:53:44, 0:53:48]: Three so for seven months, three mil three hundred and twenty five thousand. [0:53:48, 0:53:50]: And you're saying that [0:53:51, 0:53:59]: Are you aware? Well, you know what, Mayor, do did the financial advisor get notice of tonight's meeting at all to be present? [0:54:00, 0:54:01]: Cause he's the numbers guy. [0:54:02, 0:54:17]: Right. No, he's he's actually out of town, but he's not gonna be present tonight. If we need to bring him in, we can get him at the next meeting. But he's he's at he's actually out of out of town, he's in Wyoming. Well that'll be good if we could have him. So we'll know exactly what the predictions are because I'm looking here. [0:54:18, 0:54:20]: And if if seven months is at three mil [0:54:21, 0:54:27]: Three point three, I'm sorry, three hundred three, three point three mil to five for seven months. [0:54:28, 0:54:33]: And that's what the startups, and I love the fact that the APRA funds are taking care of a lot of that. Um [0:54:34, 0:54:35]: However [0:54:36, 0:54:45]: When you look at the projections that they made from the last minute from the from the email that we received, and that's before the RPA five. [0:54:46, 0:54:52]: It showed a and that was with the three point five mil and the three percent interest increase. [0:54:53, 0:54:58]: It continued to show a constant decrease in our fund balance by 2024. [0:54:59, 0:55:03]: that balance was down by half to eleven months worth, right? [0:55:03, 0:55:10]: Well, if we do what Mayor Pro Tem Alexander stated, then it will be even less than that. [0:55:11, 0:55:14]: So we have comments here where [0:55:15, 0:55:22]: Their their court revenues are projected at 750 and not that you know Mr. Uh Chief Tramor. [0:55:22, 0:55:29]: is here and I understand you know the I wouldn't consider the revenue. I've always stated that. You know, these are fines. [0:55:29, 0:55:30]: Um [0:55:30, 0:55:33]: But I hope our goal is not to go around finding people. [0:55:33, 0:55:36]: And that's basically gonna cover the operation costs of our courtroom. [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: And so we still are in the hole. [0:55:41, 0:55:49]: And we still are then we're saying, okay, so we may not tax. Well, somebody's getting taxed because we're depleting all our funds if we don't. [0:55:50, 0:55:54]: Which one is it gonna be? We're either gonna deplete our fund balance even faster. [0:55:55, 0:55:56]: Or [0:55:57, 0:55:58]: We're going to [0:55:59, 0:56:01]: Um implement attacks. [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: I say that we still, you know. [0:56:07, 0:56:11]: Mayor Bra Tim says it's the citizens police. [0:56:11, 0:56:16]: If it's the citizens police, then the citizens should have had a say before we got to this point. [0:56:17, 0:56:20]: They didn't get that right. They didn't get that say. [0:56:22, 0:56:22]: And so [0:56:23, 0:56:29]: My concern again is our financials. It sounds great. [0:56:29, 0:56:33]: But the numbers have already gone up a million dollars, over a million dollars. [0:56:33, 0:56:41]: And I would like to see, and I'm pretty sure a lot of people in the community want community policing. That's what we've been talking about this entire time. [0:56:41, 0:56:52]: So at the very low, it's at five mil. But if you look at that average, I believe, Chief Tramor, you're saying that we're looking at a total amount about 6.9 mil. [0:56:53, 0:57:10]: Operating costs. That's about seven million dollars a year in operating costs. That's too a little bit more than it's about two mils more projected than what we came up with during the feasibility study. Which was kind of accurate. What number? I'm I'm sorry, Councilwoman. What number are you referring to that six million? [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: It was the [0:57:12, 0:57:14]: You gave a number of [0:57:14, 0:57:17]: So if the the bottom number was at five. [0:57:18, 0:57:21]: Right. And that was the l the smallest amount, the model. [0:57:22, 0:57:29]: Right. So you're talking about on the very high end of that scale. Is that is that what you were talking about? No, I'm talking about the mid mid range. [0:57:29, 0:57:31]: Yeah, six point nine million. [0:57:32, 0:57:35]: Yeah, that would be for six that'd be for seventy one employees. That would be for [0:57:36, 0:57:40]: 62 full-time sworn and nine civilian staff or 71 full-time employees. [0:57:41, 0:57:46]: Okay, based off of the chart and the average. So what's the middle range, the forty five employees? [0:57:46, 0:57:48]: So forty five uh well [0:57:48, 0:57:56]: One of the things I don't though fo we could get by with forty five, I believe that we'd be cutting ourselves too sh too short and it would be doing a disservice. So the estimation [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: Then I the recommendation I went with was at a minimum the forty nine employees. [0:58:01, 0:58:06]: Okay. So based on the forty nine employees, if we were to go with that model and we were to [0:58:06, 0:58:15]: you know, build upon that should that be necessary or or or should that be desired by the community. At the low end it's five point four on the high end it's five point eight. [0:58:16, 0:58:22]: Okay. So five po for the middle one, the forty the the middle one's almost five point seven. [0:58:23, 0:58:34]: Okay. Which is right around where the feasibility study is at 5.8. So it's not in the six range. And that that has to do with the operational cost. That's right. Right. Okay. Perfect. [0:58:35, 0:58:38]: So we're looking here still at our numbers. [0:58:38, 0:58:45]: And whether we take it from fund balance or whether we do the tax and implement the tax, which is going to happen. [0:58:45, 0:58:46]: Right. [0:58:46, 0:58:52]: We can say when or not, or it's not gonna be, but I'm looking here at the projections. [0:58:52, 0:59:00]: I would like Mr. Wall to come in and give us those projections based off of this email that we received on July 3rd, 2021. [0:59:02, 0:59:05]: I mean it it's right here. You've had an opportunity to read'em. [0:59:07, 0:59:07]: The one [0:59:08, 0:59:10]: Where they said that, you know [0:59:11, 0:59:14]: Assuming that everything comes back up and we don't hit the recession. [0:59:15, 0:59:18]: Same in twenty three and a five percent increase in twenty four. [0:59:19, 0:59:21]: Um, in regards to sales tax collections. [0:59:22, 0:59:24]: And if everything is going up. [0:59:24, 0:59:34]: Then our court revenues are projected around 750,000. Our property taxes will increase by 3% each year. Our city extra millage rate will be 3.5 mils. [0:59:34, 0:59:42]: And quite frankly, I don't care about that rollback getting because we have we we're providing those services, but we're still in the hole. [0:59:43, 0:59:44]: Sounds good. [0:59:46, 0:59:47]: But let's talk numbers. [0:59:48, 0:59:51]: Yeah, if I if I and and to the extent that that um [0:59:52, 0:59:57]: You all would like I did have the opportunity to speak with Mr. Wall regarding those projections that you were referring to. [0:59:57, 1:00:05]: And there were some unknown variables that existed when he prepared those projections. He forwarded me over that and uh [1:00:05, 1:00:07]: We were able to recalculate that and [1:00:07, 1:00:12]: And I believe that you'll see that the figures are different. I have that and prepared to show that to you if you would like to see that. [1:00:12, 1:00:18]: at the present moment and you can see how that's gonna play out based upon on uh the information that we know. [1:00:18, 1:00:24]: I would. I would love that. But on in addition to that, I would love to be able to speak to Mr. Wall about that. [1:00:25, 1:00:25]: Open. [1:00:25, 1:00:45]: Well, I'll tell you what we'll do. Ms. Wall's not here tonight. We'll make a point to get him at our next meeting, which is November eighth. In this aspect, he'll be back in town and uh we can uh plan to have him for that point. But if Mr. Chief Cramer, if you want to go forward with additional standby, Mr. Blount, you want to go forward with that, that that'd be fine if that's what you want to do to to to satisfy. [1:00:45, 1:00:48]: uh Miss Gantt's uh inquiry here. [1:00:51, 1:00:55]: Sure. So if you give me just a moment here. Mayor, mayor, mayor, if you will. [1:00:55, 1:01:05]: All right, while he's looking for that, go ahead. No, the reason I'm saying it because if he gives up if he gives us a presentation pertaining to what Mr. Wall gave him, we have not we don't have a chance to question Mr. Wall. [1:01:05, 1:01:09]: about numbers that now would be new numbers presented to us. So what's the point? [1:01:09, 1:01:11]: Well, I'll play it on Mr. Wall, that's fine. [1:01:11, 1:01:31]: I was trying to adhere to what Ms. Gann asked for, trying to make sure to satisfy her requirement. But No, I'll wait on Mr. Wall. All right, fine. Ms. Chief, no no no need. We'll we'll deal with this uh in the next meeting. Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. Uh m Mayor, you you told me to hold on. Oh well I thought that's what you wanted to talk about. No, no [1:01:31, 1:01:41]: No, no, I'm just I'm only I'm only commenting on on the another presentation without the person, you know. All right, Ms. Blount. Stand by Ms. Barber. Go away, Mr. Blount. [1:01:41, 1:01:42]: Uh [1:01:42, 1:01:51]: First of all, before I get into questioning uh what we just saw, uh city attorney, because uh we was told just [1:01:51, 1:01:55]: Three three weeks, uh I mean the last meeting and the meeting before that. [1:01:55, 1:02:00]: That to start a police department, we were talking about funds uh opera funds being used. [1:02:01, 1:02:03]: And established police departments. [1:02:03, 1:02:15]: that they can bring those in because they have the criteria already established to use those funds. Are you able to now use those funds, uh city attorney, if you don't already have an established police department? [1:02:18, 1:02:24]: Council member, I I'm not I mean, if Quentin wants to weigh in as well, I I don't know off the top of my head. I'm happy to look at that, but I just [1:02:25, 1:02:30]: Well what to to me that's important right now because we've been told [1:02:31, 1:02:43]: from several meetings that these criteria from already established police department and that they couldn't be used to start up a police department. But when any sorry something else, you get some feedback. [1:02:44, 1:02:53]: So when we bring in and say that we want to use it to start up a police department, no criteria have ever been presented to us in that effect. [1:02:53, 1:02:57]: And so this is why I would like must I would prefer Mr. Walls to be here. [1:02:57, 1:03:00]: To let us know that because [1:03:00, 1:03:11]: From my understanding, from what we know, that you can't start a police department. The criteria for those funds were implemented to apply for those were already established police departments. [1:03:11, 1:03:16]: So that's uh if if our city attorneys can get that information for us, I appreciate it. [1:03:17, 1:03:19]: But on the lower end. [1:03:20, 1:03:22]: Uh I'm getting some feedback from [1:03:24, 1:03:25]: On the lower end. [1:03:25, 1:03:27]: For what's been presented to us. [1:03:28, 1:03:39]: Because on the amount of employees that we're talking about, and and we can say that we're talking about seven months, but if we're talking about establishing the police department, I would like to see the projection for a year. [1:03:39, 1:03:44]: Because uh a police department from now on would be more than seven months. [1:03:45, 1:03:52]: We would like the citizens to know what a year would be. And on the lower end, you're talking almost eight billion dollars because here's the thing. [1:03:53, 1:03:56]: The numbers for officers does not include. [1:03:56, 1:04:14]: in in those numbers does not include civilians. And when you do include civilians as special services, we're talking about almost eight million dollars. And we haven't even talked about when you're talking about a 43,000 dollar salary, we haven't even talked about what the city's portion would be when it comes to benefits. [1:04:14, 1:04:22]: So you're talking about a forty-three thousand dollar salary that can go up twenty uh at least about twenty-five thousand dollars for business. [1:04:22, 1:04:34]: So we we're almost talking apple and orange. That's why I wish our financial advisor was here because we can't sit here and say a forty-three thousand dollar range on the lower end and we're talking about. [1:04:34, 1:04:36]: Uh employees need it. [1:04:36, 1:04:45]: And civilian employees need it. And we're right now, we're almost on the lower end. We're almost talking about annual eight million dollars, and we haven't even talked about benefits. [1:04:47, 1:04:48]: And so when we [1:04:48, 1:04:59]: Well, let's take let's look at this. We're talking about now almost, we're talking about now almost uh uh uh th uh six-eighths of our budget right now. [1:04:59, 1:05:05]: When you talk about employees, the police implementation and salaries, and we haven't talked about benefits. [1:05:05, 1:05:10]: Now is does that forty three thousand dollars include benefits, uh Ms. Strainer? [1:05:12, 1:05:18]: So all those projections, the final numbers include personnel services benefits. I was able to work with human resources and equate the cost of that. [1:05:19, 1:05:39]: I don't know where you're getting the eight million dollars from for that service for 49 sworn officers and nine civilian employees. The mid-range cost is about five point seven million dollars. When you when you talked about the special services, you talked about one point eight one point eight plus million dollars. When you talked about the other services other than the sworn officers on the lower end. [1:05:39, 1:05:41]: in for the officers you talked about six [1:05:41, 1:05:47]: uh six point five, I think it was something million, something like that. I'm I'm going off the numbers you present. [1:05:48, 1:06:01]: So you're talking about the high end of the the scale. All the numbers. No, no, the numbers you I'm sorry, that's trying to the numbers you presented. I'm talking about the lower end. These are on the lower ends what you presented to us. When you talk about the number officers. [1:06:01, 1:06:11]: the range of salaries and then you're talking about adding special services and this and in a lot of those areas and it tells because you look at the numbers, it didn't include civilian. [1:06:11, 1:06:20]: employees and then i'm and i'm pretty sure that forty three thousand dollars didn't include include um benefit [1:06:21, 1:06:28]: They include benefits, sir. If you would like me, I can pull the slide up. The benefits are broken down actually as a separate line item if you'd like me to go. [1:06:28, 1:06:39]: So then then we're talking about then we're talking about the the the we're talking about the cost of an officer starting in the city of Stockbridge then being about thirty, uh you're talking about thirty-two thousand dollars. [1:06:40, 1:06:40]: No sir. [1:06:41, 1:06:45]: So you take 43,000, add roughly 25% of that. That would be the total cost of that office. [1:06:47, 1:06:49]: I'm sorry, I don't hear you, Mr. Emissar. [1:06:49, 1:07:09]: If if you were to take whatever the salary is, add 25% to that. That's the cost of the office. And that was equated in the budget. So the personnel services costs included all 58 employees for that last projection there. So for 58 employees with benefits. [1:07:09, 1:07:22]: Taking into account overtime costs and operating costs. So everything accounted for is between 5.4 to 5.8 close to$5.9 million based on that staffing model. [1:07:22, 1:07:30]: So when you take the so when you take the the twenty five percent from the forty three thousand, so you're looking at about uh roughly um [1:07:30, 1:07:32]: Uh, ten thousand dollars. [1:07:33, 1:07:39]: So you're saying that we're looking at hiring offices at thirty three thousand with benefits forty three thousand. Is that what you're saying? [1:07:41, 1:07:42]: Yeah. [1:07:42, 1:07:53]: The the the numbers that you saw in terms of salary there, that's what the officer salary is gonna be. So you would add twenty-five percent to that. That's gonna give you the total cost for that officer inclusive of benefits. [1:07:54, 1:08:11]: So that$43,000 with 25% added to it is going to be about$53,750, and your math was about right, around$10,000 extra when you account for benefits for that officer. And all those numbers have been taken into consideration and factored in that overall budget. [1:08:11, 1:08:15]: But when we looked at what I'm saying in the presentation you gave us. [1:08:16, 1:08:20]: The forty three thousand dollars did not it wasn't inclusive of the ten thousand. [1:08:21, 1:08:26]: And so when you include the ten thousand, I'm I'm just going by the the presentation we just got. [1:08:26, 1:08:32]: It didn't include the$10,000. And when you include the$10,000 along with special services, [1:08:32, 1:08:37]: Look at look at what was presented to us. We're looking at almost eight million dollars. [1:08:38, 1:08:40]: Annually, I'm not talking about the seven months. [1:08:41, 1:08:45]: A police department is not for seven months, it's for a year. And then we'll still [1:08:45, 1:08:58]: in in in the uh was still in in the in the point of order point of order point of argumentative the chief is presenting argumentative i asked the council but mayor can you can you i'm i'm i'm sitting here argumentative [1:09:01, 1:09:03]: Mayor, you gotta unmute mute. You gotta unmute, Mayor. [1:09:05, 1:09:09]: I'm sorry about that. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. Mayor Potem, let him finish his comments, please. [1:09:10, 1:09:10]: Go ahead. [1:09:11, 1:09:21]: What I'm saying, so you're going from$43,000 per person now to$53,000 per person because you're saying now we add to 25%, roughly$10,000. [1:09:21, 1:09:26]: Now these now this is on the lower end on your chart. [1:09:26, 1:09:34]: Of employees. And when you talk about the lower end, coupled with um the special services that are needed. [1:09:35, 1:09:42]: And and right now, I can't even ask our city attorneys, are we gonna be able to use APRA fund? Because we was told that we couldn't. [1:09:42, 1:09:55]: But that still with the presentation you gave us is almost eight million doll annually. I'm not talking about the seven months. I just want to make sure that that's this is why we needed our financial advisor on here to crunch numbers for us. [1:09:56, 1:10:16]: That this doesn't become a political thing. It doesn't come become politicians and all of this. It would be something direct to the citizens that would crunch numbers, have crunch numbers that we paid for, that we would actually get the actual numbers because what is being said and what is being calculated are two different things. [1:10:16, 1:10:16]: Nice. [1:10:19, 1:10:29]: When we talk about$43,000, now we're talking about$53,000 because we didn't take account that$10 million. Why aren't we, why are we rushing this presentation? [1:10:29, 1:10:47]: makes no sense to me when we should have done this presentation with our financial advisor on here, with our attorneys with the full knowledge of what we funds we can use. Why are we rushing this presentation? Blows my mind because questions right now cannot be answered. [1:10:49, 1:10:54]: Well Mr. Blount, if I if I if I could just clarify for just a moment here, sir, and what I would like to do. [1:10:55, 1:11:01]: is um I I would like to just refer back to the slide that I think you were you were speaking of. [1:11:01, 1:11:04]: And um I don't know if you can you can see. [1:11:05, 1:11:06]: We can see it. Can you see the screen? [1:11:08, 1:11:15]: So so sir, if you if you look at these figures here, the the regular salary, so if you were to take the the [1:11:15, 1:11:22]: The numbers that you saw there that forty-three thousand, and you were to calculate the salaries for all fifty-eight employees based on where they fall on the scale. [1:11:23, 1:11:26]: Their their their base salaries would be about$3.4 million. [1:11:27, 1:11:47]: We've also got in the model some part-time employees reporting things along those lines. Uh overtime is about two point five percent of the overall budget. So overtime's factored there. And this is where the employer provided benefits come in. So that's that additional ten thousand dollars that you're talking about. That would be that would be it's already factored for. And you pull the operating costs are roughly twenty percent. [1:11:47, 1:12:00]: percent of the overall cost of the budget. So that's where these numbers are calculated. There's nothing that's not accounted for, Councilman. Councilman, let me follow up with this. Can you pull the one up with the base salaries? [1:12:01, 1:12:09]: No, it's scenario number two and not number three. You told me you prefer not a point of order. Any point of order. [1:12:10, 1:12:13]: Miss Gan is not recognized and you allow this to go on. [1:12:15, 1:12:18]: I've got it. Go ahead. [1:12:18, 1:12:19]: Yeah. [1:12:19, 1:12:24]: What I'm asking Mr. Trenari number two. What I'm asking you, Chief Tramer. [1:12:25, 1:12:28]: Yeah. If you would pull up the slide that shows [1:12:28, 1:12:35]: the base salary range from the from the low to the mid to the higher on the on the one that you recommend. [1:12:38, 1:12:43]: Okay, so this is the are you talking about this slide here, Councilman Blount with the base salary for the police officer? [1:12:43, 1:12:47]: What what is the what is the what is the uh minimum on that? [1:12:47, 1:12:49]: The men was forty three thousand one fifty nine. [1:12:50, 1:13:10]: And down now with that with that cost, that's not calculated with the ten thousand dollars that you said, which is is actually more when we talk about benefits for this uh in the city of Stockbridge. Benefits for each employee is more than$10,000, but let's say$10,000. So that number goes to$53,000 per person, but you [1:13:10, 1:13:14]: You said, but you said that in the in the range and I'm I'm [1:13:15, 1:13:17]: See trying, but trust me, I'm not trying to put your I'm not [1:13:18, 1:13:24]: Forgive me, I'm not putting you on trial. I'm only trying to get numbers on the decision the citizens are about to make. [1:13:25, 1:13:31]: pertaining to this police department and be open and and and and uh uh straightforward with what we're actually doing. [1:13:31, 1:13:40]: Those numbers are not adding up. And this is why we needed our financial advisor here because that that minimum of forty-three thousand dollars. [1:13:41, 1:13:50]: is really a minimum of fifty-three thousand dollars, but it's gonna be more than that because we pay more than that per employee for benefits and you're talking about and you're talking about [1:13:51, 1:13:55]: Uh the number of employees for that, those numbers crunched. [1:13:55, 1:14:02]: Is gonna come up to with with the special services, those numbers are gonna bring us to almost eight million dollars. [1:14:02, 1:14:03]: Trust me on that. [1:14:04, 1:14:18]: Now, Mr. Blount, if you were to looking at this scenario here, sir, so this$3.4 million, let's just say we're hiring one officer. That officer, let's just say using your number is$43,000. That would be the number that would go right there for regular employee salaries. [1:14:19, 1:14:34]: The$10,000 would be the number where you see$857,000, that would be the$10,000. So if you were to add the$43 plus 10, you're going to get the overall projected budget. So the point that I'm trying to make is that what you're saying was already accounted for in these numbers. [1:14:34, 1:14:54]: But those, but I'm saying, but uh Chief Tramer, those numbers right there are based on are based on an average that's not true. That's not okay. Have you gotten with HR and found out what the average, what is the cost of the benefits per employee? And those are the numbers we crunch. [1:14:54, 1:15:00]: Yes, not the ones that speculative, but the actual numbers. And those aren't the actual numbers. [1:15:01, 1:15:03]: Sir, I have gotten the actual numbers, with all due respect. [1:15:04, 1:15:13]: And that's what we need is the actual numbers. Those aren't the actual numbers on the amount of employees. They're not the actual numbers, I'm telling you now. [1:15:13, 1:15:33]: Well hold on, Miss Gantt. Not and not you're not done at your turn just yet. What I want to tell you uh right now, everybody, is that I've talked to Mr. Wall. Mr. Wall is out of the state. He's visiting his family, his daughter, matter of fact, and celebrating her birthday. That is why he's not here. I made the decision not to bring him in here tonight simply because of that. [1:15:33, 1:15:40]: I mentioned several times already tonight that we'll make sure he's here on November eighth. We'll go down this road if we need to go down this road. [1:15:41, 1:15:45]: He's not gonna be he's not available. Okay. On that note to you. [1:15:46, 1:15:50]: To you and not Chief Chief Train thank you, Chief Chamber, anyway. Uh but to you, Mayor. [1:15:51, 1:15:52]: If we're not able [1:15:53, 1:16:13]: To crunch numbers with Mr. Walls and the numbers that are being presented to us, why are we doing a presentation tonight? This is the part where I say it gets too political for me because this presentation did not have to happen tonight, but it is, and now it gets all convoluted because we can't get. [1:16:13, 1:16:25]: We can't get the questions answered we need. And see, this is why, because you're going to continue to get uh uh uh this intrusion from other council members because we are in a political season. [1:16:26, 1:16:35]: Right now, uh uh uh uh uh uh election season. And this meeting should not have happened without the proper people in place to answer the questions. [1:16:35, 1:16:37]: This tonight should not have happened. [1:16:37, 1:16:51]: I'm sorry I started to feel that way, but it's it's too late. He's he he won't be here. He's not going to be here. We'll do this if we need to have him come forward. Once again, November 8th is the time to set him up for that. On that note, uh I'd like to go to Miss Barber. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:16:56, 1:16:58]: Thank you, Mayor. And thank you, Chief Tramer. [1:16:59, 1:16:59]: Um [1:17:00, 1:17:03]: I'll I'll admit I was a bit concerned with [1:17:04, 1:17:06]: Our ability to sustain [1:17:06, 1:17:09]: Um a police department, however. [1:17:09, 1:17:11]: This presentation that [1:17:11, 1:17:13]: Tief Tramer has provided his [1:17:13, 1:17:14]: Very thorough. [1:17:15, 1:17:19]: Very thorough. I've been saying let's start slow and small. [1:17:20, 1:17:22]: But this gives me a different perspective. [1:17:23, 1:17:24]: We can actually [1:17:25, 1:17:25]: Fun in. [1:17:26, 1:17:29]: Full fun functional police department. [1:17:29, 1:17:30]: Next year. [1:17:31, 1:17:34]: And not have to impose a tax. [1:17:35, 1:17:42]: One of the things that we have not emphasized is other funding sources that we can use. [1:17:43, 1:17:46]: Not only for startup costs. [1:17:46, 1:17:47]: But to help. [1:17:47, 1:17:48]: Um [1:17:48, 1:17:49]: With [1:17:49, 1:17:50]: Operating cost. [1:17:50, 1:17:53]: Um for the next couple of years. [1:17:54, 1:18:05]: Is it true, Chief Tramor, that the ARPA funding that you mentioned, we're able to use that through the end of December 2024? [1:18:06, 1:18:21]: Yeah, as assuming we're eligible for that, it can be used to December thirty first of twenty twenty four. And the thing is, is that I think that what we have to look at is is that we show there's a nexus between what the city's doing to reduce crime for the pandemic. [1:18:21, 1:18:31]: Now, whether that money is going to Henry County or it's going to a newly established police department that's addressing these issues, I think that we just have to show a nexus that these issues are being addressed. [1:18:32, 1:18:39]: And I I I you're not gonna find a lot of case examples where you're having a startup department because a lot of these things are already new to begin with. [1:18:39, 1:18:52]: And um I'm not an attorney. Those things can be verified, but I think that whether you're paying Henry County or you're starting a new police department, it seems to me it should be something that we would be able to utilize those funds for, just based on what I've been seeing across the industry. [1:18:53, 1:19:01]: Awesome. Um I have participated on a couple of the calls that GMA have provided with information on. [1:19:01, 1:19:04]: The criteria for ARPA funding. [1:19:04, 1:19:09]: And they did mention um about the legislation that President Biden. [1:19:10, 1:19:10]: Had approved. [1:19:11, 1:19:16]: Um so ARPA funding can be used for certain things such as communication equipment. [1:19:17, 1:19:20]: And so forth. Now, other than ARPA funding. [1:19:20, 1:19:24]: I know that there are some state and maybe even some federal grants. [1:19:24, 1:19:27]: That can be used for um [1:19:27, 1:19:31]: Equipment that police officers need, such as bulletproof webs. [1:19:32, 1:19:33]: Those sorts of things. [1:19:34, 1:19:34]: Um [1:19:35, 1:19:38]: Are you aware of any of those grants? [1:19:40, 1:19:48]: Yes, ma'am. My previous previous agency at Georgia Tech, we were able to offset expenses for ballistic vests through grant funding through the National Institute of Justice that provided those. [1:19:48, 1:19:57]: We able to secure grant funding to pay for body worn cameras. Um there's there's there's hundreds, uh literally hundreds of grants that are available out there. [1:19:57, 1:19:58]: Um [1:19:59, 1:20:04]: Mm-hmm. They you just have to research them and you have to you have to apply for them and you have to adhere to the requirements. [1:20:05, 1:20:25]: those grants. I mean there's there's a lot of talk now about um um providing funding specifically for community oriented policing like we saw back in the 90s so there may be additional funding for that in the future uh so there's a lot of lot of different sources out there that I know the feasibility study didn't address but I can assure you this that as I said before this is not my department [1:20:24, 1:20:35]: department and I want to be a good steward too of the resources that the city has. And so we're going to do everything we can in our power to offset those expenses such that they don't become a burden for members of our community. [1:20:35, 1:20:42]: Awesome. Thank you. Thank you very much. If you don't mind, can you remove your slide so I can actually see? [1:20:43, 1:20:45]: Everybody's face is on here. [1:20:46, 1:20:57]: So I wanted to also ask you, Chief Tramer, did you also include a position for someone specifically to go after those grants? [1:21:00, 1:21:20]: Um, I d I did not. I know that we had been discussing, as a matter of fact, Mr. Wiggins and I were discussing this the other day uh because there's grant funding that exists not just for the police department but citywide. And so it may be worthwhile because I believe that we pay dividends to have a specialist that deals with grant funding to be able to secure us additional sources of income. I know we're using the contract. [1:21:20, 1:21:26]: I don't think that really worked to our advantage, but you see a lot of organizations that do have specialists. [1:21:26, 1:21:34]: uh with experience in grants that they bring on board that that are able to uh provide a lot of additional uh revenue streams for the city. [1:21:35, 1:21:38]: Awesome. Awesome. One last question. So um [1:21:40, 1:21:50]: I am excited and I know uh several people that I've spoken with are excited about your upcoming listening sessions. Um, so thank you for. [1:21:50, 1:21:56]: scheduling those, um, I think it's important that we get out in the community and start sharing. [1:21:56, 1:22:05]: All of this information. And I'm sure the citizens will be quite happy to know that there are other funding sources that can be used. [1:22:05, 1:22:10]: to help with the startup cost of this police department. So thank you very much for your presentation, sir. [1:22:11, 1:22:13]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:22:14, 1:22:19]: Thank you, May. And and Mayor, I would encourage you to take control of this meeting, if you will. [1:22:20, 1:22:20]: Um [1:22:22, 1:22:25]: Mr. Trama, I I just want to thank you for this presentation. [1:22:26, 1:22:30]: And and just let me say that for me, this is not political. [1:22:30, 1:22:32]: Um we have [1:22:32, 1:22:36]: started the Stockbridge Police Department. That's a fact. [1:22:37, 1:22:38]: Mago [1:22:39, 1:22:40]: Is to ensure [1:22:41, 1:22:42]: That we have public safety. [1:22:43, 1:22:45]: In the city of Starkbridge. [1:22:45, 1:22:47]: For our neighborhoods, for our citizens. [1:22:48, 1:22:51]: And for the businesses that operate here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:22:52, 1:22:56]: That is our goal. That is my goal. Let me say that from the beginning. [1:22:56, 1:23:06]: I I do want to thank you for your presentation. I want to thank you for meeting with me to give me the opportunity to ask. [1:23:06, 1:23:26]: A lot of questions, many of the questions that was asked here tonight. And I know for a fact that you reached out to every council member to give them the opportunity to get a better understanding of this path forward. And some of them chose not to. And if you're talking political, then they want to choose this opportunity to. [1:23:26, 1:23:36]: you know cbtv but just let me say chief i i just thank you for this presentation now again i thank you for um allowing me to ask those questions [1:23:37, 1:23:39]: I think your presentation was thorough. [1:23:39, 1:23:44]: Um, I read it several times. I met with you. I heard you tonight. [1:23:44, 1:23:47]: I think you laid it out perfectly. [1:23:47, 1:23:51]: Um I know that you know you you met with HR, you stated that. [1:23:52, 1:23:55]: Uh you did your due diligence. You met with HR. [1:23:55, 1:23:57]: You had a conversation with Mr. Walls? [1:23:58, 1:24:01]: I know that you have read the um opera uh um [1:24:01, 1:24:02]: The document. [1:24:03, 1:24:08]: You have read the uh uh feasibility study, you have done your homework. [1:24:08, 1:24:24]: And now you are laying this out. And I think it was thorough. And you laid it out perfectly. So I I just want to thank you. And I know Mr. Night is probably watching. And I just wanna thank him for uh bringing you forward. It is clear uh why he brought you forward. [1:24:25, 1:24:45]: Uh you were his choice. I want to commend this counsel for confirming you. Uh, and I see why now, because uh you have done your due diligence. You have done your homework, and this presentation is just without without question for me. Uh, I think you have indicated all scenarios. Uh, [1:24:44, 1:24:57]: We also met with the Henry County Tax Commissioner, and we have never said that it would not be a tax, but I think what you're saying is that the tax may be a little further down the road. [1:24:57, 1:25:17]: But it but at any point, you know, um the police department is going forward. And and I think the citizen, from what I understand, citizens are on board with the police Stockbridge Police Department. Yes, there are some some some concerns about tax. And I think uh the Henry County Tax Commissioner laid that out. You even mentioned that tonight. [1:25:17, 1:25:23]: in in your presentation what that would look like. So I I don't see what the [1:25:23, 1:25:24]: Um [1:25:25, 1:25:30]: I I I don't see what the controversy is tonight. I don't see any um [1:25:30, 1:25:35]: uh um you know questions uh and I you know and I'm I'm just [1:25:36, 1:25:56]: I'm just a little saddened by the confrontation and the drill because I think you came forward tonight. And I know again, you tried to meet with everyone before this presentation to give everyone an opportunity to ask the question. As I did, I met with you and I asked a million of questions. [1:25:56, 1:26:01]: And you were able to answer all of those. So I'm just saying, you know. [1:26:03, 1:26:15]: We just need to be about moving the city forward. It is all about protecting our citizens. It's all about protecting these business owners that's coming in. [1:26:16, 1:26:23]: We have made it clear that yes, there will be some form of attack. So I'm just saying we as an elected body. [1:26:24, 1:26:29]: This is the lane that we should be in. But what I'm hearing tonight is something totally different. [1:26:30, 1:26:36]: You know, the fighting against trying to protect our citizens, fighting against trying to protect the business owners. [1:26:36, 1:26:43]: So I I don't understand this. So Chief, again, just let me just say thank you. [1:26:43, 1:26:50]: You have done your homework. I know this because you and I talked about the research, and it's obvious. [1:26:51, 1:26:57]: It is obvious that you've done all your homework and you have laid out a tremendous plan here tonight. [1:26:57, 1:26:59]: And this is the path forward. [1:26:59, 1:27:01]: Anyone that's watching [1:27:02, 1:27:16]: Anyone who is watching this program tonight and this meeting tonight, they can see the path forward. And they can also see based on the tax commissioner uh report and your report. [1:27:16, 1:27:19]: Да іф и [1:27:19, 1:27:22]: There is a tax, it will be minimum. [1:27:23, 1:27:41]: And as we go forward in years to come, we're going to continue to work this out to make sure that that tax is always minimum back to our citizen. But without a doubt, we have to go forward. I do not see how we cannot. [1:27:42, 1:27:45]: I do not see how we cannot provide. [1:27:46, 1:27:59]: public safety here in the city of Styrid. I don't see that. So Chief, I just want to thank you. Mr. Knight, I want to thank you. I know you're watching. I want to thank you for bringing your candidate forward. [1:28:00, 1:28:10]: This is your candidate and the city council confirmed your choice. So I just want to thank you for this total process and future forward for the city of Styrid. Thank you. [1:28:11, 1:28:27]: I appreciate it. Everybody on the council has spoken and had a extended time on speaking. So we're going to move on to the next subject. Thank you, Mr. Trayman, for your chief trainer, for your presentation. We'll deal with this at our next meeting. Okay. Further, if we need to do so. I'll move on to a public hearing. [1:28:28, 1:28:48]: Council consideration approved 2021 to 2026 short-term work program, capital improvement element, STWP CIE annual update. At the August 31st, 2021 City Council meeting, the mayor and council approved the transmit meet the STM, excuse me, STWP CIE document. [1:28:48, 1:28:55]: to the Georgia Department of Community Affairs and Atlanta Regional Commission for review, presented by Ms. Johnson, please. [1:28:56, 1:29:05]: Good evening, Mayor, Council members, and residents. So, yes, the short-term work program and the capital improvements element are [1:29:05, 1:29:17]: Programs are things that we have to do on an annual basis in order to maintain our qualified local government status. And that means that we have to meet the minimum standards via the state. [1:29:18, 1:29:38]: So the document that you all reviewed and uh moved forward was transmitting to the Atlanta Regional Commission and Department of Community Affairs. That was in August. They have reviewed it, they don't have any issues and have approved it on their side. And we are just formally making the approval here tonight. [1:29:38, 1:29:42]: Once the approval is complete, we will submit the resolution with the mayor's signature. [1:29:43, 1:30:02]: to the state and we will get a finalized statement that we meet our current our our local state requirements for the city of Stockbridge and we'll do this again on an annual basis as those projects on the list are completed so that we can give those updates. [1:30:02, 1:30:05]: And if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer. [1:30:05, 1:30:08]: Okay, good. Council, any questions for Ms. Johnson at all? [1:30:09, 1:30:11]: [5412.1, 5416.1]: I just want uh all of these situations I like to take advantage of this time. [1:30:16, 1:30:22]: Short-term work program. Half of the people watching have n most of the people watching have no idea what it is. [1:30:22, 1:30:31]: Explain what these projects are because I want folks to understand that this council is systematic in the way that we do things. [1:30:31, 1:30:37]: The region requires us to for a qualified local government status to have a plan in place. [1:30:37, 1:30:41]: We have a plan in place for these projects that have been ticked off. [1:30:41, 1:30:45]: The amphitheater didn't just pop up. It was one of the plans. [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: The Cultural Arts Center didn't just pop up, it was planned. [1:30:49, 1:30:59]: the youth senior citizen is the youth senior center is not just gonna pop up. It's it's the next project up after the Culture Arts Center. So as we go down. [1:30:59, 1:31:08]: This line of what we're doing uh in terms of parks into the city, in terms of infrastructure and everything that we're hoping to do. [1:31:08, 1:31:10]: uh inclusive of [1:31:10, 1:31:11]: you know, funding. [1:31:11, 1:31:19]: And as we understand right now, uh some of the projects that we have on our list in terms of traffic, everybody's talking about traffic. [1:31:19, 1:31:22]: Rock Quarry Road is on the T-SPLOST list. [1:31:22, 1:31:32]: the funding mechanism for to widen Rock Quarry Road and all of these projects and the sidewalks that we're uh trying to do in the community. [1:31:32, 1:31:39]: Everything that we do must be a part of the plan. Otherwise, it does not qualify. [1:31:39, 1:31:57]: for matching funds or grants uh through these uh the Atlanta Regional Commission and the various entities. So Ms. Johnson, talk about that in detail, mention some of these projects and understand that the import so the citizens understand the importance of what we're doing. [1:31:58, 1:32:13]: We can highlight some things as well. Yeah, highlight some. Sure, sure. Um, I I can bring it up on my screen just so we can see a couple of the projects. Um so I mean you explained it very well, Come here Protam. We this particular [1:32:14, 1:32:16]: Um, draft a document. [1:32:16, 1:32:24]: Is so that we have a plan for funding for different projects throughout the city so that we don't we're not acting randomly. [1:32:25, 1:32:26]: And how we [1:32:26, 1:32:31]: have projects or decide on projects and that we make sure we complete them. This is all about [1:32:31, 1:32:33]: Seeing it from beginning to end. [1:32:34, 1:32:38]: So the short-term work program, which used to be a five year plan. [1:32:39, 1:32:45]: Which is embedded in our comprehensive plan, which is our overall twenty-five to thirty year plan for development. [1:32:46, 1:33:06]: It was required on a five year basis. However, you know, a lot can get lost in five years. But if you keep an update going on an annual basis, then we can let the state know and our residents know what we're doing and what we're completing and what we're still in the process of doing. So this is the beginning of it. Can everyone see my screen? [1:33:06, 1:33:10]: Yeah, we can see it. Go ahead, please. I'm gonna scroll down so please mind by [1:33:12, 1:33:14]: Uh my cursor is a little [1:33:15, 1:33:25]: It's a little interesting. All right. So here are some of the projects we have. I mean, the amphitheater for once, see, I told you it was a little temperamental, you guys. So bear with me if you will. Okay. [1:33:25, 1:33:26]: So the amphitheater. [1:33:27, 1:33:31]: was a major project. We put twenty-three million dollars into it. [1:33:32, 1:33:35]: And and the state requires that we say. [1:33:36, 1:33:56]: The city of Stockbridge is going to have certain projects, whether they are gonna be, but they're all for the for the betterment of the city, the residents, distances. Remember, it all goes back to um how who we serve. We serve our city, our council, our city, our city manager, we serve. [1:33:56, 1:34:06]: the businesses, our development community, and our residents. So all these things are culmination. Like we have a cultural arts center that is a project that's currently underway. [1:34:07, 1:34:11]: And we'll be bringing that back in the next month or so for an update. [1:34:11, 1:34:26]: And it outlines not only projects that will do like hardscape, but it also addresses resurfacing of roads, road widening projects. And as Mary Pretend mentioned, T Splos is all about transportation. It's about [1:34:27, 1:34:47]: pedestrian transportation, which are trails, sidewalks, and then you have road improvements like resurfacing and road widening and other improvements. This is all to improve our city for economic development. So that we can have those businesses that say, oh wow, City of Stockbridge has an amphitheater, anticultural [1:34:47, 1:34:59]: Art Center and they're doing a lot of you know a lot in the downtown area, those are cues and ways that people want to be around. Those are areas and projects people want to be involved in. [1:34:59, 1:35:08]: So um to continue on, there are other projects in community development, which are mostly you know land use driven, zoning driven. [1:35:08, 1:35:12]: And then you have public works which are utilities, sewer. [1:35:12, 1:35:15]: and and the like. And you have economic development. [1:35:16, 1:35:20]: And these headings like community facilities, economic development. [1:35:21, 1:35:29]: Things like that, those are all elements of that, like I mentioned, the 25 to 30 year plan, which is our comprehensive plan. And it's just a drill down. [1:35:31, 1:35:36]: of that. So we're establishing different um organizations and associations. [1:35:37, 1:35:47]: And the different trail systems. We have a UDC that is underway. So things like this, these are improving the plans we have. [1:35:48, 1:35:49]: And again. [1:35:49, 1:36:01]: seeing them through from beginning to end. And that's the goal of meeting this minimum standards for the state. They require that we submit that information. And if things, you know. [1:36:01, 1:36:08]: If they have questions, they'll reach out. If they feel that there need to be some changes made, they will provide those as well. [1:36:08, 1:36:15]: So this kind of gives you some idea of that. And we have dollar amounts and how long it's gonna take us to do these projects. [1:36:17, 1:36:24]: So the capital improvements element piece are the major projects that we're putting serious funding behind. [1:36:24, 1:36:28]: Most of these projects are, you know,$200,000 and more. [1:36:29, 1:36:30]: So [1:36:31, 1:36:38]: If there are no other questions, that kind of sums up my overview of what a short-term work program is and our requirements per the state. [1:36:39, 1:36:40]: Yeah, Mrs. Thomas go ahead, please, sir. [1:36:41, 1:36:44]: Thank you, Mira, and thank you, uh Mrs. Johnson. [1:36:44, 1:36:50]: Uh I'd just like to add to to to the Mayor Pro Tem's comment and yours as well, Mrs. Johnson. [1:36:50, 1:36:54]: And and and and my comments are just based on [1:36:54, 1:36:57]: trying to to expound on [1:36:58, 1:37:04]: The obligations and the responsibility of of this elected body and all municipal government. [1:37:05, 1:37:07]: Um the short term work. [1:37:07, 1:37:08]: Um [1:37:08, 1:37:09]: Two. [1:37:10, 1:37:13]: It's no more but a two. [1:37:14, 1:37:16]: Ту асист і провадин. [1:37:17, 1:37:19]: Improve services. [1:37:20, 1:37:21]: To our citizenry. [1:37:23, 1:37:25]: We are about [1:37:26, 1:37:28]: service delivery. [1:37:29, 1:37:34]: And this is our main objective and this is our main goal when it comes to legislation. [1:37:35, 1:37:36]: Policy creation. [1:37:37, 1:37:39]: It's all geared toward [1:37:39, 1:37:43]: service delivery improvements. [1:37:43, 1:37:45]: Everything that we do [1:37:46, 1:37:50]: as for a municipal government has to be about improving [1:37:51, 1:37:55]: the services that we deliver to our citizenry. [1:37:55, 1:37:58]: Whether we're talking about public safety. [1:37:58, 1:38:08]: Or we're talking about improving roads, or we talk about improvements in public works, improvements in sewage, water, what have you. [1:38:09, 1:38:15]: This is what we're about, so I'm saying all this just to say we have to stay focused. [1:38:15, 1:38:17]: On the objective. [1:38:18, 1:38:21]: And and while we are here, while we are elected. [1:38:22, 1:38:24]: And we have to be conscious of providing. [1:38:25, 1:38:32]: Quality service. We cannot sit back on the services that we provided last year. [1:38:33, 1:38:35]: It's all about improving. [1:38:36, 1:38:56]: Our service delivery. And so this is just a tool, a systematic tool that we use to be able to focus on those things that we are obligated and responsible to do in municipal government and in the city of Stockbridge. So I just want to share that and it's [1:38:56, 1:39:04]: Sometimes I think that gets lost in, as someone said, it gets lost in the politics of everything. [1:39:04, 1:39:15]: But it's all about service delivery and improving upon those services every day. And during this time of the year when we're talking budget. [1:39:15, 1:39:18]: We have to be about improving. [1:39:19, 1:39:24]: improving services to our citizens and this is what they look for. [1:39:24, 1:39:27]: Thank you, Mayor, and I yield back and Miss Johnson, thank you. [1:39:27, 1:39:29]: Appreciate it. Any other comments from the council? [1:39:31, 1:39:51]: Okay. Well, this is a public hearing, uh public uh hearingness aspect as well. So I'd like to open it up uh for the public if anybody's online to make any comments for uh this particular short-term work program, the annual update. And I I cannot see anybody at this point, so I'm not sure if there's anybody out there on the public. [1:39:51, 1:40:03]: to making a comment, whether or not Ms. Holliday, if you can see that or if there's something uh somehow our IT kind of identify somebody in that nature, anybody for. [1:40:03, 1:40:09]: Mayor, I I do not see any questions relating to this particular public hearing item. [1:40:09, 1:40:11]: In the chat, yeah. [1:40:11, 1:40:18]: And Mayor Ford, Mayor Ford, this is the public information officer. At this time, there are no questions or comments on Facebook as well. [1:40:19, 1:40:33]: All right, then I'll uh close that part of the house with any comments against uh the public work program. Any comments whatsoever. And I would imagine by the public information officer's statement, there's no comments once whatsoever one way or the other. Is that correct? [1:40:35, 1:40:36]: Yes, sir, that is true at this time. [1:40:37, 1:40:52]: Okay, and Miss Holiday, you see nothing as well. Is that correct? Likewise on the Zoom. Okay, then I will close out uh the public hearing. And on that note, then uh council, I need a motion to accept this uh the uh the short-term work program annual update. [1:40:52, 1:40:53]: Oh. [1:40:53, 1:41:06]: Okay, is there a second? Mr. Thomas seconds at all. Um any question, further discussion? Any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. Okay. Okay. And Mr. Blount, are you voting? [1:41:07, 1:41:15]: Okay. Tony. Okay, you okay, got it. So I'd say that's a unanimous decision in this aspect. Thank you very much, Council. [1:41:16, 1:41:20]: We're going to new business. Oh, Miss Ms. Johnson, thank you very much for your presentation. Appreciate it. [1:41:20, 1:41:22]: Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council members. [1:41:23, 1:41:27]: Council consideration approved the Doctor Road Program presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [1:41:28, 1:41:29]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. [1:41:30, 1:41:46]: In May of this year, the youth council approached uh the city manager about adopting a road to maintain and beautify within the city limits of Stockbridge. And we didn't have a program in place. So this is a process that formalizes the adopt the road program. [1:41:46, 1:41:53]: It requires certain documents and certain uh activities throughout the year in order to be considered. [1:41:54, 1:41:58]: to get a a sign saying you've adopted s such and such role. [1:41:58, 1:42:05]: First of all, you'd have to sign an adopt a role program agreement. It specifies what's required of the program. [1:42:05, 1:42:12]: Then there's a volunteer waiver liability and release that while you're out there cleaning, you do not hold a city home. [1:42:12, 1:42:16]: You do not hold them responsible for accidents or anything of that nature. [1:42:17, 1:42:19]: Then there's a schedule of cleanups you're required to [1:42:20, 1:42:40]: Perform four cleanups per year. And then there's a post-cleanup form where after every cleanup you submit it to the city of what was cleaned and things of that nature. So we're just trying to formalize a process where there is an actual adopt the road program and it's not a one-time thing where someone said, Hey, I want to adopt like Tide Street. [1:42:39, 1:42:46]: go out there one time every four years and clean it or do something on that street. This specifies how [1:42:46, 1:42:52]: and what requirements have to be met in order to maintain that role being adopted by your organization. [1:42:54, 1:42:59]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. Any qu uh counsel, any questions for Mr. Aaron about this adopt the road program at all? [1:43:00, 1:43:04]: And if not, I need oh I'm sorry, uh Miss Barber. [1:43:05, 1:43:06]: So [1:43:07, 1:43:13]: Um, Mr. Aaron, is it fair to say that your department would be the one who'd be administering this? [1:43:14, 1:43:17]: Uh yes, Council Mom. [1:43:17, 1:43:18]: Thank you. [1:43:19, 1:43:24]: Any other questions? And if not, you mo need a motion to accept this uh proposal. [1:43:27, 1:43:31]: Any emotion, anybody? Okay, so move this can second. [1:43:33, 1:43:34]: Uh second, Miss Barber. [1:43:35, 1:43:36]: Any further discussion? [1:43:36, 1:43:38]: And if not all in favor, please indicate. [1:43:40, 1:43:42]: Okay, so now you're decision. Thank you very much. All right. [1:43:44, 1:43:49]: Council consideration to approve street acceptance policy. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:43:50, 1:44:10]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Ms. Johnson, the city's engineer and I have had numerous discussions concerning how the city goes about accepting roads into the road system after they have been developed and built in subdivisions. And this outlines the process by which roads are built. [1:44:10, 1:44:27]: how roads are maintained and how roads are accepted into the city. This ensures that we accept roads that are built to a certain standard and those roads are maintained. We have maintenance bonds for the maintenance of those roads during a maintenance period after the roads are accepted into the city. [1:44:28, 1:44:29]: role system. [1:44:30, 1:44:34]: Okay, council. Any questions for Mr. Aaron in reference to this uh [1:44:34, 1:44:35]: Street acceptance policy. [1:44:36, 1:44:38]: Yes. Go ahead, Mr Mayor Protein. [1:44:39, 1:44:49]: So let me I just wanna understand the process. Uh when these um developers get ready to turn over the roads, somebody's actually going to go out there. [1:44:50, 1:44:53]: inspect the road to make sure that it's up to standard. [1:44:54, 1:44:56]: The the great the the [1:44:57, 1:45:03]: The sewer drains not sticking above the grade, the grades not they were supposed to put two coats on there. [1:45:03, 1:45:08]: of asphalt. They never put the second one over there and they escaped the neighborhood. [1:45:09, 1:45:16]: All of those types of things are going to be in the review and who's going to do the review and sign off before [1:45:16, 1:45:20]: uh granting uh the acceptance of the road. Who's gonna do that? [1:45:22, 1:45:25]: Well, Mayor Pro Tem, uh before building [1:45:25, 1:45:35]: decides to build a subdivision or come to the city for approval to build a subdivision. There are standards. The city has minimum design standards and also they'll be addressed in the [1:45:35, 1:45:55]: UDC of standards for constructing roles. And during that time, the developer will submit an application to the city about developing those roles. And then the application lays out the process the developer has to follow in order to construct those roles and the process by which the city inspects [1:45:55, 1:45:56]: Spects those roles. [1:45:57, 1:46:01]: So everything is done up front. The developer will know from the beginning once they decide. [1:46:02, 1:46:10]: To build that development, whether it's a shopping center or whether it's a subdivision, what's required to maintain and build roles according to the city specifications. [1:46:11, 1:46:15]: I I know what the paper says. Who's going out there to check? [1:46:16, 1:46:21]: When you finish when they finish, who is it you? Who's gonna go out there and physically check? [1:46:22, 1:46:35]: to make sure they did what they were supposed to do. Because I know we have a lot of procedures on paper, but in the end, who's going to go out there to verify that this has been done before this city signs off on it? [1:46:36, 1:46:55]: Well, Mayor Protein, we have uh three sets of engineers. There's an engineer in community development. There's also two engineers that the city have that are on call that are also capable of inspecting roads for the city doing a final inspection or pre-inspection or construction inspection before these roads are accepted into the city's road system. [1:46:56, 1:47:06]: So again, I want to be very clear. I know we have these people that can do it. Be very clear. Who's going to do it? Who's going to go make the final sign off? [1:47:07, 1:47:15]: If I may, may April Tim and um Mr. Aaron. So um since since I've been here and working with uh Public Works Director, Mr. Aaron. [1:47:16, 1:47:19]: We make sure that our inspectors, our building inspector. [1:47:20, 1:47:21]: From community development. [1:47:21, 1:47:41]: And one of our civil engineers from public works both go out and conduct inspections at each stage. They go in at the beginning, they go in throughout the process during construction. And because there's so much going on on the property and those roads are getting the maximum use. [1:47:41, 1:48:01]: Before they're actually topped off, both the inspectors go out and ensure that before we sign up on any bonds, that those roads meet ADA requirements, they meet all the minimum standards per our code and the state. So those things are handled through both departments. We jointly go. [1:48:01, 1:48:04]: go out and have those inspections completed. [1:48:04, 1:48:14]: before we have any conversations about releasing any bond funds for for these for these roads that are dedicated to the city. [1:48:15, 1:48:17]: Okay. Thank you. That's that's what I wanted to do. [1:48:18, 1:48:18]: Absolutely. [1:48:19, 1:48:20]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:48:29, 1:48:30]: Mr. Blount, you're still muted. [1:48:37, 1:48:44]: I'm sorry my cursor wasn't working. All right, go ahead. Ms. Brecker, uh Ms. Johnson, the um [1:48:45, 1:48:46]: When we talk about UDC [1:48:47, 1:49:02]: When we talk about these roads and sidewalks and all that, how does it impact fees with these uh subdivisions? How would they come in compliance with what we're talking about for us uh them being uh responsible for certain things when it comes to these uh sidewalks and roads and [1:49:03, 1:49:07]: What not well they're required to put up a performance bond. [1:49:08, 1:49:28]: um before they even start the project to ensure that before they start any work, if any um utility um lines get burst or there are any other issues that come as a result of their developing in that area, that they that either they will take care of it or we will utilize that bond. [1:49:27, 1:49:29]: Money to take care of it. [1:49:30, 1:49:33]: So that that's why we have it at the very beginning of the process. [1:49:34, 1:49:50]: Okay, one quick follow-up. Um and and I I agree with making sure those are inspected because we we have subdivisions now that was prior to us even coming on council that have uh sidewalks and some of them don't even extend all the way. You know, it's a lot of uh [1:49:50, 1:49:54]: imperfections, if you will, in in in communities. Um [1:49:54, 1:50:14]: What what liability would the builder have until uh uh how long is that liability for their roads and the sidewalks once they've been built? Because as you know, that there's certain type of cement you need to use, certain density of cement, certain things need to be done. So, what liability would they have after the completion of the [1:50:14, 1:50:17]: many projects before pause. [1:50:18, 1:50:18]: Mm. [1:50:19, 1:50:39]: So um I know that Mr. Aaron can probably handle that, answer that question a little better than I can, but minimum a three year performance fine is required. And if they do not make good on the requirements, this minimum standards, then we will utilize those funds and they will be paying the city for those. [1:50:39, 1:50:44]: those dollars, usually it's insured. They get the performance bond through the insurance company so that they could cover. [1:50:44, 1:50:50]: any expenses um to that degree. And Mr. Aaron, I don't know if you want to add to that. [1:50:51, 1:50:59]: Yeah, the the standard maintenance period is 36 months, but we also in certain instances you can extend it for an additional 12 months. [1:51:00, 1:51:03]: To make sure those roles and sidewalks are maintained. [1:51:06, 1:51:07]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:51:07, 1:51:08]: Thank you. [1:51:09, 1:51:14]: I'm gonna ask the question. I think I know the answer, but I'm gonna ask this question playing devil advocate. [1:51:15, 1:51:16]: Um [1:51:17, 1:51:24]: What what are the pros and cons of the city accepting uh these streets and these subdivisions? [1:51:24, 1:51:27]: And and and why should we? And [1:51:27, 1:51:28]: Um [1:51:29, 1:51:34]: Are we responsible for any uh street lights uh within the uh on these streets? [1:51:36, 1:51:38]: The pros and cons. [1:51:38, 1:51:55]: The the pros, well, the pros is the city accepting you make sure that they're uh developed and designed to a certain standard. And so that they're not coming into the city's road system and you have to instant uh start putting money up for repairs right off the bat. [1:51:55, 1:51:56]: And also [1:51:56, 1:52:06]: If these roads are not public streets indeed over, then they're they're probably private streets and then you might not have access to those streets. [1:52:09, 1:52:13]: So to develop within the city, you wouldn't want to have access to those streets. [1:52:16, 1:52:20]: I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Any further questions from the council? [1:52:21, 1:52:21]: Okay. [1:52:23, 1:52:23]: Why, sir. [1:52:25, 1:52:26]: Are you back to me, Mayor? [1:52:26, 1:52:32]: Well yeah, I I I thought you were just gonna say I I I I didn't get an answer about sh uh street lighting. [1:52:33, 1:52:36]: Okay, that's right. Oh, that's something separate. [1:52:36, 1:52:39]: [6760.6, 6770.1]: This is just to formalize and make sure that there's a process for developing roles and accepting roles into the city's role system. [1:52:51, 1:52:57]: Because there have been subdivisions built that the city has taken ownership of those roads and they might be they were substandard. [1:52:58, 1:52:59]: Yeah. Um [1:53:00, 1:53:12]: There are some private streets within some subdivisions in the city, such as Eagles Landing, I I would guess. Are there any other subdivisions where the streets are private? [1:53:13, 1:53:14]: That you know of. [1:53:14, 1:53:19]: That's the only gated and uh subdivision where I know the streets are private. [1:53:19, 1:53:23]: Okay. And there's a a trailer part within the city. [1:53:23, 1:53:25]: that those ropes are private. [1:53:25, 1:53:27]: Okay, I yield back, Mayor. [1:53:27, 1:53:28]: Okay. [1:53:28, 1:53:34]: On that note, if no further questions, then in the motion to accept this uh this actual street acceptance policy. [1:53:36, 1:53:38]: D is there a motion? [1:53:39, 1:53:39]: I moved. [1:53:40, 1:53:41]: Okay, Miss Gann, is there a second? [1:53:43, 1:53:48]: Uh uh Mr. Blount, second, any further discussion? And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [1:53:50, 1:54:10]: Okay, got a unanimous decision. Thank you very much, Council. Mr. Aaron, thank you, sir. Council consideration to approve task order number 24 with TSW Incorporated uh multiphase uh design renovations to the mural manners conference center in the amount of uh 239,000 to uh 239,230 dollars. The funds funding. [1:54:10, 1:54:12]: source would be fund balance. So Mr. Aaron, please. [1:54:13, 1:54:20]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. I will refer this to Mr. Ingram. Uh Ms. McGee was working on this. [1:54:20, 1:54:24]: previously, but I'll let Mr. Ingrid speaks to this item. [1:54:25, 1:54:26]: Okay, go right here, Mr. [1:54:27, 1:54:39]: Uh thank you uh mayor and council for allowing us to talk to you about the Merrill Mandor Conference Center. Uh as you know, the Merrill Manders has been down for 21 months now. [1:54:40, 1:54:50]: Uh and it before that it was a very active conference center with weddings and events there regularly. [1:54:50, 1:55:00]: It was built in 2002 and now uh it's not in disrepair, but it has a need for modernization. [1:55:01, 1:55:07]: uh because of the other event centers event centers in the area to be competitive. [1:55:07, 1:55:08]: Um [1:55:09, 1:55:23]: And so we looked at talked to TSW about a phase in way to modernize the uh Mormander Conference Center. That's with the the carpets uh or floors. [1:55:23, 1:55:29]: the paint soundproofing sound system and light fixtures. [1:55:32, 1:55:38]: Okay. Uh any any further description right now? Any of anything else you need to add, Mr. Ingram? [1:55:39, 1:55:40]: Well um [1:55:40, 1:55:42]: We have been looking to. [1:55:44, 1:56:04]: during this covet period to get these things done. And now it's uh we're making the effort to execute uh in a timely manner to get the moral manner back on track and up and uh running. Um you know to one is it generates [1:56:04, 1:56:05]: [6965.4, 6973.5]: uh and uh it's a you know good community uh a vibr vibrant community center in stockbridge. [1:56:14, 1:56:33]: And the size of it being 6,000 square foot ballroom plus the additional 5,000 square feet of of other event space, it is one of the largest in the in the Stockbridge area. And uh we feel if we have the opportunity to get uh it [1:56:34, 1:56:41]: up to modern standards or modernize it, uh it can be a competitive event center uh in this area. [1:56:42, 1:56:47]: All right, thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Council, any questions or concerns for Mr. Ingram here about the Mormon's Conference Center? [1:56:50, 1:56:50]: Anybody? [1:56:52, 1:56:54]: All right. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [1:56:54, 1:57:01]: So uh uh Mr. Ingram, uh I'm I'm just looking at the numbers here. Um [1:57:02, 1:57:08]: Two hundred and thirty-nine thousand two hundred and thirty. Um [1:57:09, 1:57:14]: And I I see how you have it here itemized. So what is the um [1:57:14, 1:57:21]: Is this the projected cost of renovation, uh, demolition? [1:57:21, 1:57:26]: Uh is that is that um an addition or breakdown? [1:57:27, 1:57:33]: No sir. It there would be no demolition. It would just be upgrades from the existing [1:57:33, 1:57:44]: uh structure that we have. You know, it would be uh uh uh the new flooring, uh the walls need soundproofing, uh the [1:57:45, 1:57:49]: paint the the the the color scheme uh would [1:57:49, 1:57:51]: would be more aesthetically [1:57:51, 1:57:52]: You know [1:57:52, 1:58:12]: better if it was modernized. When it was built in 2002, the mood was for a it's almost you know a cabin look. Right now with the with uh zoom and people wanting to do selfies, uh the lighting and [1:58:12, 1:58:32]: And uh is it's a different feel for uh what people want. And we want to be uh up to date in a modern, in a modern uh facility. So uh the lighting fixtures is more needs more light. Uh those chandeliers uh don't give off light. [1:58:32, 1:58:46]: It's and so if you were filming in there, uh, and most people do with selfies and so forth, it's uh you can't get the light you would need for that. And that's what people want when they rent new modern facilities. [1:58:49, 1:58:50]: Thank you. [1:58:51, 1:58:53]: Yeah, questions council. [1:58:54, 1:58:55]: Anybody else? [1:58:56, 1:59:01]: And if not, I need a motion to accept uh his proposal about the remodeling of uh Mormano's conference center. [1:59:03, 1:59:03]: Is there a motion? [1:59:05, 1:59:06]: In our budget, I'm sorry. [1:59:07, 1:59:08]: Is it is in our budget, correct? [1:59:09, 1:59:11]: I would I would think it is, Mr. Ingram? [1:59:12, 1:59:13]: It had to come out of fund balance. [1:59:14, 1:59:19]: It would it would come from fund balance, I believe, Mr. Wiggins. Am I correct? [1:59:20, 1:59:25]: Yeah, you're correct. There you go. This it this this was not this was not budgeted. [1:59:27, 1:59:29]: Okay. So if you're trying to start [1:59:30, 1:59:33]: For innovation now, you would need to use fund balance. [1:59:34, 1:59:40]: And and as I said, we've been down for twenty one months. Uh and I would hope that [1:59:40, 1:59:56]: you know, we could get the moral mandar back up to speed as people are beginning to go out again. And uh we get several requests every week uh to know when we'll be opening up and we can [1:59:56, 1:59:58]: even give uh [1:59:58, 2:00:01]: patrons when citizens uh [2:00:01, 2:00:02]: You know [2:00:03, 2:00:05]: a timeline on when we would even [2:00:06, 2:00:07]: Be starting. [2:00:07, 2:00:20]: And and that's one of the things that we want to do is get that process started so that we can, you know, estimate a a a finish line, a finish time uh line of when we could be back. [2:00:20, 2:00:21]: And online. [2:00:22, 2:00:31]: Sem muchas Ms. Cans. Any other further questions? This this is for to get estimates, correct? This isn't necessarily the actual. [2:00:32, 2:00:36]: No, it has not gone out to be it for the actual construction. [2:00:37, 2:00:37]: Uh [2:00:38, 2:00:39]: You know, of it. [2:00:39, 2:00:45]: Okay. So listen, I would be okay if we were going to just get some numbers. [2:00:45, 2:00:49]: And we put this in the budget for twenty twenty two. [2:00:49, 2:00:51]: I am a stickler. [2:00:51, 2:00:54]: In regards to making sure that we have the money. [2:00:54, 2:00:57]: If there has if there's money in the budget. [2:00:57, 2:01:00]: For this, so be it. Twenty twenty one. [2:01:01, 2:01:08]: But if we're going just to get some estimates, which we're right at the tail end, I mean, we're at the last quarter, right? October. So you like November, December. [2:01:09, 2:01:15]: January's right here. I'm okay with us having it as a part of our budget for 2022. [2:01:16, 2:01:17]: Um [2:01:17, 2:01:20]: So long as we're voting to move forward with getting an estimate. [2:01:21, 2:01:22]: Is that what we're doing? [2:01:24, 2:01:24]: Uh. [2:01:25, 2:01:28]: Councilwoman Barber, this is a a task order from [2:01:28, 2:01:37]: TSW is similar to like one for the Cultural Arts Center or for the renovation of the Ted Strickland offices. This is to prepare. [2:01:37, 2:01:46]: Concepts and designs for the renovation of the Merrill Manders, there's like three different phases. One phase you would just renovate the ballroom. [2:01:46, 2:02:06]: Then you come back at a later date and renovate the meeting spaces downstairs. It's broken according to the different uses of the building. So this was a task order to update and refresh the Murray Mandas because in 19 years there hasn't been any significant investment in the refurbished. [2:02:06, 2:02:07]: [7328.6, 7330.6]: So I'm in favor of that. [2:02:11, 2:02:12]: I just wanna know. [2:02:12, 2:02:15]: Where are we how much money are we talking? [2:02:17, 2:02:24]: For this ministry out of fund balance right now. I I want to know about what we have in our budget for Mormandar. [2:02:24, 2:02:29]: And then how much money are we talking about taking money out right now in twenty twenty one? [2:02:31, 2:02:51]: No, this wouldn't all be spent in 2021. You probably have minimal cost because we're in uh we're in might as well say November. So by the time they start, it'll probably be around in December or something like that. So the expenses for this year would be minimal and you can budget it or use fund balance. [2:02:51, 2:02:51]: [7372.0, 7375.4]: to uh pay for the remainder of the task order costs. [2:02:56, 2:02:59]: Mr. Wiggins, do we have any money in the budget in Merrymanders? [2:03:01, 2:03:03]: We have uh let me take. [2:03:04, 2:03:07]: I'm trying to bring it up now to see what we currently have. [2:03:08, 2:03:10]: We don't have enough for two hundred and thirty nine. [2:03:10, 2:03:11]: What is it? [2:03:11, 2:03:13]: Two hundred thirty nine thousand right now. [2:03:14, 2:03:17]: H will it cost two hundred and thirty nine thousand right now? [2:03:18, 2:03:22]: No, they're not gonna bill us two hundred and thirty nine thousand dollars before the end of the year. [2:03:22, 2:03:25]: Yeah, like Miss like like Dish was saying, they [2:03:25, 2:03:28]: They're gonna build us in in in phases. [2:03:28, 2:03:30]: You got three phases to uh [2:03:30, 2:03:32]: Complete all of the work. [2:03:32, 2:03:35]: I'm pretty sure they'll start with the lowest, but um [2:03:36, 2:03:52]: I just want to know the cost. So every single meeting, I asked the same thing. What are the costs? Is it do we have it in our budget? What is the balance? I asked this every single meeting. [2:03:52, 2:03:55]: So these are the things I want to know. [2:03:55, 2:04:01]: And Mr. Ingram, I appreciate you. I appreciate your presentation. I love it. I'm I'm for it. [2:04:02, 2:04:07]: I just want to make sure that we have the money in the budget because I've been a stickler on that. [2:04:07, 2:04:23]: Um and so long as we budget for it for 2022, I'm okay if the cost will fit within what we have right now. What's the what what's in the budget right now, Mr. Wiggins? Right now you you have fifty thousand dollars. [2:04:24, 2:04:26]: For site improvement. [2:04:27, 2:04:27]: Okay. [2:04:28, 2:04:31]: To start to b to basically start this project. [2:04:32, 2:04:36]: Okay. And that's from now through December. And I think that's doable, right? [2:04:37, 2:04:39]: Is that doable, Mr Dashus? [2:04:39, 2:04:53]: Yes, ma'am, because if you just did phase one, which is the ballroom and entrance refresh, even if they did everything this year it'll be$27,650. Okay. I'm in favor then. I'm fine. I just want to make sure we have the money. [2:04:53, 2:05:00]: already set aside and when we get ready to do our finalize this this budget in 22 that we include those costs. [2:05:01, 2:05:01]: Okay. [2:05:03, 2:05:07]: It uh what standby? Uh Councilman Thomas, you were unmuted, sir. Uh I'm sorry. [2:05:08, 2:05:11]: No questions. No questions. Okay, no problem. Map Pro 10 point, please. [2:05:12, 2:05:18]: Okay, this is my issue with this entire process. To spend two hundred and thirty [2:05:18, 2:05:20]: thousand dollars. [2:05:20, 2:05:28]: We already know we've been through this enough time. There's gonna be change orders. By the time this already finishes, we'll be close to three hundred thousand dollars. [2:05:29, 2:05:39]: on a facility that's going to be replaced in the next 18 months. We'll have a new cultural arts center with a state-of-the-art ballroom inside it. [2:05:40, 2:05:48]: It makes no sense to remodel this facility when you have a brand new state of the art modern ballroom inside the Cultural Arts Center. [2:05:49, 2:05:52]: Why would we spend this money now? I suggest that we repair Merylmanders. [2:05:54, 2:06:00]: with the roof leak and the such things and as that and keep it in operational condition. [2:06:00, 2:06:07]: So that it can function for the next 18 to 24 months until we get the new. [2:06:07, 2:06:08]: State of the art. [2:06:09, 2:06:22]: Cultural Art Center that we have the financing in place for with a ballroom that not anybody in the region will be able to touch on this side of town. We've already got that plan in place right now and what are to do it with. [2:06:23, 2:06:23]: So [2:06:24, 2:06:27]: And I understand Councilwoman Gance. [2:06:27, 2:06:33]: uh argument, which is to take the money and to put it in fund balance, uh to take in and out of fund balance. [2:06:33, 2:06:42]: Which we're doing. That's not smart for us to take this money out of fund balance. And the overall overarching concern is. [2:06:42, 2:06:46]: Мерл Мандерс збенлюсь маніфорій в єрс. [2:06:47, 2:06:50]: Every year we have to subsidize that budget. [2:06:51, 2:06:54]: Over and over and over again with [2:06:54, 2:06:58]: thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars over the last few years. [2:06:59, 2:07:05]: Why on earth would we do that now when that facility is about to be replaced? [2:07:05, 2:07:07]: With a state of the art facility. [2:07:07, 2:07:11]: that it will be competing with in the same area. [2:07:11, 2:07:14]: I think we need to pump the brakes on this right here. [2:07:14, 2:07:18]: And at some point, look at what we can do to repurpose. [2:07:19, 2:07:22]: Uh Merrill Manders, once we have our new state of the art. [2:07:22, 2:07:23]: Um [2:07:24, 2:07:27]: ballroom open because that's what we're talking about. [2:07:27, 2:07:30]: is doing the ballroom and the entrance and all of that. [2:07:31, 2:07:44]: uh we should pump the brakes on this. And at some point we have other uses that may be able to come to the table. As the city is expanding, we need more office space. We need other uh in uh [2:07:44, 2:07:51]: other types of uses and we will have a building available to do that with rather than investing [2:07:52, 2:07:57]: Pro I'm in my guess three hundred thousand dollars or more after all of the changes are put in place. [2:07:57, 2:08:01]: And then there will be other changes that will be needed to upgrade. [2:08:01, 2:08:03]: uh the facility as well. [2:08:04, 2:08:12]: So my idea, my my thoughts on this would be to table this so that we can come up with another plan to fix Merrill Manders. [2:08:13, 2:08:33]: Right. All the repairs that need to be done should be done. Just those repairs would need to be done in terms of the roof, in terms of the things that need to be done to keep it functional so that we can have city events in it and we can have it available to the public when need when that would need to be done. But to spend$300,000. [2:08:33, 2:08:34]: I was on a facility. [2:08:34, 2:08:40]: that will be obsolete in two years wouldn't it does not really make sense to me. [2:08:41, 2:08:42]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Oh. [2:08:44, 2:08:45]: Thank you, Mayor. [2:08:46, 2:08:47]: Um [2:08:47, 2:08:49]: Mr. Um [2:08:49, 2:08:59]: Canyon Well, is he still on here? Yes, I am. I'm just trying to figure out has it been baited out where we can get a more accurate number? [2:09:00, 2:09:07]: Because I'm looking at the 239, what is what is this representing versus when we bid it out to get actual numbers? [2:09:07, 2:09:10]: It has not been to that process yet. [2:09:10, 2:09:20]: Where are we getting the 239 from when we when we at this point we don't have an overall cost to bid it out to find out what the overall cost would be? [2:09:21, 2:09:24]: Because if we if we say yes to two thirty nine. [2:09:24, 2:09:37]: uh agree that these numbers can be inflated through through through the bidding process and then we we already subjected ourselves to two thirty nine what what is it becomes back another two hundred and thirty nine or two hundred and fifty thousand or whatever. We we have no I mean [2:09:39, 2:09:42]: For me, it just seemed a little premature. [2:09:43, 2:09:50]: to to to go at it now without a betting cost to have overall cost for for this project overall. [2:09:50, 2:09:58]: When we're just saying, hey, we'll start it up and then hey, uh at some point in time we'll we'll get numbers to finish. I don't I don't understand that. Well, uh [2:09:58, 2:10:01]: I I understand your question, but [2:10:02, 2:10:03]: Uh is it that [2:10:04, 2:10:16]: We're going to put the moral mandor back online. It has been offline for twenty one months. Are we saying we're gonna just hold on that? I I'm looking for your direction to let me know. [2:10:17, 2:10:29]: which way to move if we're gonna put it back online and it be a facility for the community's use so we're gonna leave it where it is and wait for the eighteen months. Um because you know we just wanna [2:10:29, 2:10:41]: We're we're we're we're we're we want to do what's best for the uh mayor and council and serve the citizens. Uh so uh uh [2:10:41, 2:10:46]: You know, and we're presenting it to to find out what is the best [2:10:46, 2:10:52]: way to move forward or do do we have any other suggestions to [2:10:53, 2:10:56]: to go after uh the community's business. [2:10:57, 2:10:59]: Yeah, but but what I'm saying is for for me. [2:11:00, 2:11:00]: Is [2:11:01, 2:11:12]: Right now, how because first of all, one council member doesn't d doesn't make a decision. There has to be a consensus of the council. So that's one that's one part of it. [2:11:12, 2:11:15]: But the part at hand right now is [2:11:15, 2:11:17]: That for me, we don't have. [2:11:19, 2:11:27]: uh anything to show us what the overall cost for what type renovations that that you're gonna do. I don't know if that includes making sure the roof is right. I don't know. [2:11:27, 2:11:30]: What if it comes out to five hundred thousand dollars? [2:11:30, 2:11:31]: Rather we're talking about [2:11:32, 2:11:36]: bringing the mural manners back online or not. I'm just saying right now for this. [2:11:36, 2:11:37]: Item [2:11:38, 2:11:44]: How can we vote on something when we have no idea through a bidding process what the overall cost would be? [2:11:45, 2:11:55]: for the renovations needed for that facility. And that and that's it that's why I'm saying right now this process is a little premature versus what what the actual numbers would be because I don't want to [2:11:55, 2:12:03]: Us end up paying over two hundred thousand dollars just for everybody to seek out and and and discover what we need to do. And next thing you know, we're coming back to get a [2:12:03, 2:12:07]: get an amount and now everybody's been loaded their pockets with money and we still gotta [2:12:07, 2:12:11]: pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to get the barrel man up the par until we get [2:12:12, 2:12:14]: actual numbers, I just think that we should for me. [2:12:15, 2:12:17]: We should get actual numbers of what the cost is gonna be. [2:12:18, 2:12:22]: Through our bidding process to find out what it was gonna cost this council to [2:12:22, 2:12:25]: truly renovate the Merrill manage for what you think it is needed. [2:12:26, 2:12:26]: Yes, sir. [2:12:27, 2:12:28]: We can do that. [2:12:29, 2:12:30]: The purpose of this was [2:12:31, 2:12:44]: The the Merrill Manders, uh, Ms. McGee and Mr. Ingram had been working on this to get to renovate this facility, to bring it up to par with the surrounding and competing facilities that they're competing against for. [2:12:44, 2:12:47]: businesses, conferences and other things of that sort. [2:12:47, 2:13:07]: And if you've been in the murder, there are some things like downstairs. A lot of businesses rent those spaces to use for their clients and then do training and things of that nature. So we're trying to this would uh provide a set of standards to renovate this building. This would design the bed and all the amenities. [2:13:07, 2:13:27]: That staff wanted to see in this facility as an updated facility so that they could be competitive. And then you bid it out. If the price came in at$500,000 to renovated, then a decision be made: does the city want to move forward with spending that money to renovate it? But this was to get us to that process where they go in and meet with Mr. [2:13:27, 2:13:47]: Ingram and his staff and everybody, the city council, and saying, what do you want to see in a refurbished Merrill Manders? What do you think it would take to make it competitive? Because the Merrill Manders got some uses that would be different than the Cultural Arts Center because you don't have the meeting and office spaces in there for businesses to rent like they do in a lower level of the Merrill Manders. [2:13:47, 2:13:57]: And also there might be some party or wedding that somebody wanna hold in the Merrill Manders. And so you wanted to have that facility ready and available if somebody wanted to rent it. [2:13:59, 2:14:01]: Uh, Miss Gang, go ahead, please. [2:14:01, 2:14:06]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, and thank you, Mr. Dashes uh Aaron for that. I agree. [2:14:07, 2:14:07]: Um [2:14:09, 2:14:20]: The statement made as if we just because we get an art center does not mean we don't want the Merrill Manders. I think that we should always update all of our buildings, especially. [2:14:20, 2:14:40]: those buildings that are really capital projects that are were for the community. So I'm not again I'm not against this. I just wanted to make sure it was in the budget. And Mr. Wigan said there's fifty thousand dollars in the budget. Mr. Desha said that there's 20 the cost right now would be the first phase is about [2:14:40, 2:14:54]: About 20 something thousand. This is for a design through TSW. This is exactly what this is. This does not include renovations. It's the same thing that we would be doing for the art center. Now, in regards to the art center. [2:14:55, 2:15:03]: My c the the my idea, and you know, each council member has their own opinion about what we should do. [2:15:04, 2:15:05]: We have already [2:15:07, 2:15:10]: We have already given up the Ted Strickland for office space. [2:15:11, 2:15:15]: And it's already full is from my understanding. [2:15:15, 2:15:35]: My concern is exactly that. There are numerous amounts of people. I can't tell you how many times I get calls a day asking about when is the Ted Strickland going to open back up so they can have a baby shower, they can have a wedding shower, they can have a community event or a church wants to have some kind of dinner. And they can't. [2:15:35, 2:15:37]: Because we're renovating that. [2:15:38, 2:15:39]: For office space. [2:15:40, 2:16:00]: The ballroom. I can't imagine what the cost of a nice state-of-the-art ballroom will be for larger, for beautiful events. But we still have people who utilize the rooms downstairs as classrooms, as meeting rooms in the mormanders, as well as that event facility. [2:16:00, 2:16:06]: Yes, it's important to keep what we have and make it up to date. That is extremely important to me. [2:16:07, 2:16:11]: I'm not against it at all. In fact, I think we need it. [2:16:11, 2:16:16]: Regardless of what we decide to do with it, it needs to be updated. [2:16:16, 2:16:36]: I just want to make sure, as I've always made sure that we are financially responsible, that we have the money in our budget for this. And if the project is going to start with the 20 with out of the 50,000 that's already in the budget at Burmer Manders, and we can pay the 29 or whatever that number is for right now. [2:16:36, 2:16:45]: Now and they're getting a design together, which will then help us determine what call the cost will be. Then I'm okay with that. [2:16:46, 2:16:54]: But I'm not going to say, oh, we're going to get a new state of art building. We're going to repurpose this Merrmanders. The art center is not going to make money. [2:16:55, 2:16:55]: Don't [2:16:56, 2:17:16]: The Art Center, as the financial advisor, as our city manager, have all stated, and as history shows in other municipalities, is not a money-making facility either. These are things that our our taxpayers spent their money on splot, our splot dollars going to work. [2:17:15, 2:17:27]: for community projects. Neither will the community center for the citizens, the seniors, the for the families. I hate when we say senior and youth center. It's a community center. [2:17:27, 2:17:34]: is for all ages. Neither will that make money, but it de it there is a purpose for it. [2:17:35, 2:17:50]: And so us making sure that all of our buildings, whether they don't have the leaks, whether they look nice, we always talk about beautification and presentation. Those things are important. So I'm okay right now. [2:17:50, 2:17:53]: With spending the money that we have in the budget. [2:17:54, 2:17:56]: But not going beyond that. [2:17:57, 2:17:59]: Until next year. [2:17:59, 2:18:10]: if we're gonna approve the budget for next year and and for the design or for the updates. And then we can decide whether or not we're gonna move forward. But we gotta have some kind of level expertise. [2:18:11, 2:18:13]: Somebody's gotta do the pricing. [2:18:13, 2:18:16]: And this is the way that we go about doing it. [2:18:16, 2:18:19]: It's how we operate business. [2:18:20, 2:18:21]: This is common. [2:18:22, 2:18:23]: This is nothing new. [2:18:26, 2:18:26]: That's it. [2:18:26, 2:18:28]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [2:18:29, 2:18:32]: I I would agree also with all of the comments. [2:18:32, 2:18:34]: Most of the comments. [2:18:34, 2:18:38]: Um it it it it appears that we do need to table [2:18:38, 2:18:41]: Uh, we need to get a better understanding. [2:18:41, 2:18:45]: Because I know there's always a design cost. [2:18:45, 2:18:47]: There's always a renovation cost. [2:18:48, 2:18:51]: And and none of those that we know right now, but I would agree that. [2:18:52, 2:18:54]: We do need to improve the mural. [2:18:55, 2:18:59]: Um it's still a viable uh building. Um [2:18:59, 2:19:15]: in in our uh uh city campus. So I think we need to do that, but I think we need to take a step back and do a little bit more uh uh due diligence and how we go forward with that. So I'm in favor of tabling. But just let me say again [2:19:15, 2:19:18]: Um, when we talk about um [2:19:19, 2:19:21]: Um generating revenue. [2:19:22, 2:19:31]: Uh it's not always about uh the dollars that come in. And and again, you know, we're about providing services now with the [2:19:31, 2:19:43]: Culture Art Center, uh, without a doubt, uh, it's going to provide a certain level of services. When you talk about, and that is a theater, that is a um [2:19:44, 2:20:04]: a ballroom, there's also a museum, there's classroom. So those are services that we will be able to offer our citizens, services that we'll be able to offer um high school kids. So that is a benefit to everything that we do, even in the with the mural. [2:20:04, 2:20:08]: That is a benefit to all of this. And I think we have to sort of. [2:20:09, 2:20:19]: uh understand, you know, uh again, service delivery, but it's not always about uh dollars and cents. But I think that when you create [2:20:19, 2:20:39]: Uh, these entities that are going to bring people in your downtown because our overall thrust is uh downtown revitalization. In order to do that, you have to have these things that's going to attract people into coming downtown, which is going to spur other. [2:20:39, 2:20:59]: uh businesses that want to come into your downtown. So you don't you may not realize the benefit initially, but once you put the puzzle together and you have a whole puzzle and then your city benefit totally. [2:20:59, 2:21:19]: So but I I just I'm in agreement with with with tabling this and uh and Mr. Ingram, I think um you know we have to start to do some calculation and I don't know uh mayor, I don't know who's gonna be the one to uh go back to the drawing board, Mr. Aaron, and and just look at this a little closer because I know we have design. [2:21:19, 2:21:21]: Then we have renovation. [2:21:22, 2:21:28]: And we are in the budget process. So I just think we just need to regroup, but I think all of us agree. [2:21:29, 2:21:35]: That we do need the mural to be a viable and a functioning building in our city. [2:21:36, 2:21:37]: But how? [2:21:38, 2:21:58]: How do we go forward with the bill? And I think that's the main question. Um, and I think we all agree that we will go forward, but it's just a how. So I I would just recommend tabling it. Uh, but even during that time, if we're going to bring it back next month or the month after that, something needs to happen in between. So when it does come back, we have a better. [2:21:58, 2:22:00]: better understanding and maybe we can go forward. [2:22:02, 2:22:12]: Sure, appreciate it, sir. Appreciate it. So otherwise Mr. Ingram and Mr. Aaron to uh work together on this project and keep me involved in that through the budget process as that we have to go through here very shortly. [2:22:13, 2:22:15]: Mayor Protam, you're unmuted. You have another comment, sir. [2:22:16, 2:22:20]: Yeah, let me say this. Fix Meromanders. Fix it. [2:22:21, 2:22:21]: Fix it. [2:22:22, 2:22:25]: That was the first thing that I said. Fix it. [2:22:25, 2:22:28]: I didn't suggest leaving it in the condition that it is now. [2:22:29, 2:22:33]: repair it so that is a viable facility for the city. [2:22:34, 2:22:37]: I would maintain the meeting space downtown. [2:22:37, 2:22:57]: But I would not pay TSW to redesign the ballroom when we have a best in class ballroom that will be up and running in the next 24 months. I would maintain the status quo. So when did we condemn Merle Mayor, may Merle Manders? Mayor, I believe you just had a meeting. [2:22:57, 2:23:05]: In there uh with the Georgia Municipal Association or District 3 just a little bit ago, right? It's still functional, isn't it? [2:23:05, 2:23:25]: Right, it still falls. It's not condemned, sir. We didn't condemn it. Exactly. We're speaking like Merle Manders is about to fall down. It's condemned. It needs to be fixed. We can fix it, maintain the status quo till we get up to where we need to be, because that's not something that uh that that uh we have funds. He just said we have fifty thousand dollars. [2:23:25, 2:23:45]: Dollars fix it, fix it with the fifty thousand dollars, right? So we can continue using the meeting space downtown. But for God's sake, why would we pay somebody to design a new ballroom? Why would we do that? When I say repurpose, there should be something that we use it for. Merle Manders to be viable. [2:23:45, 2:24:05]: For here to here forward, but for what purpose? We don't know that yet, but I know we don't need a ballroom because we got one coming. So continue to use the meeting space downstairs, maintain it, fix Merle Manders with the fifty thousand dollars that we already got, and then let's table this into [2:24:05, 2:24:11]: we decide what the actual use long term is going to be for Merl Mandarin. [2:24:12, 2:24:13]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:24:15, 2:24:16]: Um [2:24:17, 2:24:25]: Dacious, um, could we get a itemized uh with our public facilities maintenance person? [2:24:26, 2:24:30]: And public works and itemized a list of what repairs are needed. [2:24:31, 2:24:38]: For the mural manners and get a cost to that. Uh and Ms. Canyon, Mr. Ingram, uh, if you could give us a suggestion. [2:24:38, 2:24:55]: and cost of what you are suggesting for the Merrill Manders in in our efforts to not rebuild the Merrill Manders but to do repairs and also to do upgrades in those repairs instead of uh uh because I I I I'm just saying right now. [2:24:56, 2:25:00]: for everything that we're dealing with and and we're talking and with this figure that's now. [2:25:01, 2:25:04]: And what's already in the in the uh balance for the budget. [2:25:05, 2:25:19]: Let let's kind of start with what needs to be repaired in the mural manners. What needs to be repaired and what suggestion, Mr. Ingalls, that you will have for this council that would be uh an upgrade for it instead of this uh uh instead of a massive renovation at this time. [2:25:20, 2:25:24]: The the immediate needs are floor, paint. [2:25:25, 2:25:26]: Sound proofing. [2:25:27, 2:25:43]: No uh th though th those three things may even can come under the uh present budget that we have. We're not positive, but but it those three things uh would would would put the moral back. [2:25:44, 2:25:51]: online to uh to to serve the public. We're anxious to be back online. We wanna be back online. [2:25:51, 2:25:59]: Uh but we have to, you know, get those at least those those primary things. It definitely needs some paint and it definitely needs flowing. [2:25:59, 2:26:16]: Thank you, Ms. Ing. Can we check and see what the cost of that is and if you should say that's part of the budget that you have now? And then whatever we need to do in the future on that, uh, we'll just deal with that. But if that's because what you're saying, I'm uh you know, I'm not a I'm not the person to do that, but [2:26:16, 2:26:32]: If that falls on what you already have, then I think that all you need to do is just uh take that and uh and and and let us know you're facilitating that with the budget you already have. So, you know, I think that would be good. I'll get with Mr. Aaron and uh we we'll we'll move forward with that. [2:26:33, 2:26:36]: Cur curiosity question. Uh Councilwoman Barber, did you have any comment at all? [2:26:41, 2:26:46]: I didn't raise my hand, but I will add to the discussion. Um, I think this item [2:26:47, 2:26:51]: Um it was for council consideration to approve a task order. [2:26:52, 2:26:53]: В ТСВ. [2:26:54, 2:26:56]: For a multi phase design renovation. [2:26:57, 2:27:01]: And that cost is two hundred and thirty-nine thousand two hundred and thirty dollars. [2:27:02, 2:27:04]: That's for TSW. [2:27:04, 2:27:05]: For design. [2:27:06, 2:27:09]: Um, I am in support of tabling this. [2:27:10, 2:27:10]: And [2:27:10, 2:27:13]: Asking staff to go back in. [2:27:13, 2:27:15]: Провідес від лист of [2:27:15, 2:27:17]: Necessary repairs. [2:27:17, 2:27:18]: Um to get it back. [2:27:19, 2:27:19]: Functional. [2:27:20, 2:27:20]: Um [2:27:21, 2:27:22]: That's all. [2:27:23, 2:27:42]: All right, so I need a motion, folks, one way or the other. Sir. Yes, go ahead. I'd like to make a motion to table this item and then we've already had enough discussion on what uh staff is to go back and to look at it and to see where uh what uh needs to be done in terms of repairs. [2:27:43, 2:27:47]: Miss okay, Miss Barber, I've got to use a second then. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [2:27:49, 2:27:53]: Unanimous decision. All right. Thank you very much. All right, gentlemen, you grab your marching order. [2:27:54, 2:27:56]: Okay, council consideration to a uh staff. [2:27:57, 2:28:05]: Excuse me, council consideration to approve staff to apply for a governor's grant for ARPA funds for water and sewer projects. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:28:05, 2:28:25]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. Governor Kemp has some additional APRA funds that can be used for water and sewer improvements. And it's kind of like the CDBG program that you have a match you have to provide. We can use current offer funds for those mats, for that match. So our engineers recommend. [2:28:25, 2:28:45]: Because I think we've identified projects that we were going to spend about$5 million on it. Is that the city leveraged$2.5 million of its ARPA funds to obtain an additional$2.5 million from the governor's ARPA fund? So we would need a letter of support from the mayor and the city of Stockbridge. We also would need a [2:28:45, 2:28:48]: a letter of support from our state representative. [2:28:49, 2:28:58]: And we're meeting with our engineers tomorrow. We have to have the application submitted by October 31st. They have pretty much all of the documents. We just need the approval from. [2:28:58, 2:29:02]: uh mayor and counsel and that signed letter from the mayor and our state representative. [2:29:03, 2:29:04]: So [2:29:04, 2:29:18]: Stand by one second, please. Mr. Aaron, um upon approval from the council, I I definitely without a doubt, I'll sign a document for you in a letter. But you said a state representative, we have several that touch stoppers. How many do you need? Or do you need a senator? I just need one. [2:29:18, 2:29:23]: One. Okay. We already have the template for the letter. We just need one letter signed. [2:29:23, 2:29:25]: All right. Mayor Pro Tam, go ahead, please. [2:29:26, 2:29:30]: Let me thank you, Mr. Aaron. See this is what I'm talking about. Okay. [2:29:30, 2:29:33]: You need staff that's very proactive. [2:29:33, 2:29:53]: Going out finding those dollars that's on the table as we crunch these numbers, trying to make hard decisions. Thank you, because this is what we need out of our staff members to be able to bring this to the table like this and assist us. You just made our job and the citizens' job easier. [2:29:53, 2:30:00]: You bring in two million dollars that they don't have to come out of their pockets because it's their money. I just want to thank you. [2:30:01, 2:30:03]: Um Catherine Blancley, please. [2:30:05, 2:30:10]: May may I like to make a motion to approve the um grant for the uh governor's grant. [2:30:10, 2:30:18]: All right. You have done so. Is there a second? I have a second. Miss I heard Miss Gantt's voice. She seconds that. Uh is there any further discussion? [2:30:20, 2:30:21]: Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:30:21, 2:30:32]: Yes, Mr. Aaron. So for this item, council, consideration to approve staff to apply for governors grant for ARPA funds for water and sewer projects. [2:30:33, 2:30:38]: Does that mean that the city will put up the funding? [2:30:38, 2:30:42]: for these projects and will be refunded. [2:30:42, 2:30:44]: By ARPA. [2:30:45, 2:31:00]: Uh you there's a possibility you can get up to 50%. So if we put two and a half million in, we'll be going for two and a half million dollar grant from this from the governor's ARPA fund. So for a total of five million dollars. [2:31:00, 2:31:06]: Okay. How would the council receive the list of projects that are identified? [2:31:07, 2:31:23]: Those projects have been submitted to finance. There's also, it was a copy of the email from uh Mr. Chad Petting with Carter and Sloop outlining projects that the city had established to use ARPRA funds for that we could use these additional funds to. [2:31:25, 2:31:26]: Okay. Thank you. [2:31:26, 2:31:46]: Uh one last question. Go right, please. Can I get greedy for a minute? Is that the is that the max that they're gonna match? I mean, what is the limit that if we put up such and such and you're gonna get a return for it? I mean, how did we come up with this number? I mean, that you came up with two and a half million. So if we put three, could we get six? Yeah, how does that [2:31:46, 2:31:48]: that work? I want to get greedy. [2:31:48, 2:32:08]: No, sir, there's not really a specified match, but if uh they seem to think that if you commit 50%, then you're that increases your chances of of getting an award. These awards are extremely competitive. Just because we submit an application doesn't mean it'll get funded. But the more you agree to match, [2:32:08, 2:32:18]: then the more likely you are to get some type of funding. So they're recommending 50%. So that's what we're submitting the grant application on. [2:32:18, 2:32:22]: So if we decided to do three million, that could up the number. [2:32:22, 2:32:33]: The ARPA funds are funds, right? I mean, with their funds that were were placed, were given to us by the So we decided to make this number three million. That'll increase the increase the yield. [2:32:33, 2:32:35]: It can easily use. [2:32:35, 2:32:50]: Not necessarily, because like I said, these grants are competitive and you got other cities and governments applying for them as well. So I would think that they're going to try to make these available to as many entities as possible. [2:32:50, 2:32:51]: Okay, thank you. [2:32:52, 2:32:58]: Therefore, I just wanted just to add um to what Mr. Aaron was saying. Um [2:32:58, 2:33:06]: These uh grants um are very competitive. Um the state is looking for those projects that are shovel ready. [2:33:06, 2:33:10]: Um and I believe that list that Mr. Aaron mentioned. [2:33:10, 2:33:11]: those projects. [2:33:11, 2:33:12]: Oh [2:33:12, 2:33:13]: Or could be. [2:33:14, 2:33:15]: Shovel ready. [2:33:15, 2:33:22]: So having that two million dollars on hand to show that we're ready to go, it would be a win-win for us. [2:33:23, 2:33:24]: Uh great. [2:33:24, 2:33:28]: Motion's been made, been seconded. Any further comments? [2:33:28, 2:33:30]: Uh yes, ma'am, William is gent. [2:33:31, 2:33:36]: No comment. I was raised in the boat. Sorry. All in favor, please indicate. [2:33:36, 2:33:42]: Okay, uh unanimous decision. Thank you very much. What we have next, ladies and gentlemen, would be the uh motion. [2:33:42, 2:34:01]: in a sense to extend the moratorium that we had that was going to end at the 30 31st of this month, extended to at least the the 31st of January that coincide with the second hearing and adoption of the UDC and the uh zoning map. So I need a motion excuse me. I need a [2:34:01, 2:34:04]: We need if we have any have the if we have to have any more discussion, we can do that. [2:34:05, 2:34:09]: but that's what I need a motion on if that is the case. If you're willing to I thought we already did that mayor. [2:34:10, 2:34:21]: No, no, we we added it to the agenda. We added to the agenda. We added it to the agenda. We did not uh we did not take a motion or have any discussion on it. Go ahead, Mr. Standby, stand by. Mr. Mr Potem, go ahead. I'm sorry. [2:34:21, 2:34:29]: I I just want again, this is an opportunity to sh what is it? What is it? Do does anybody out there know we assume that we [2:34:29, 2:34:31]: We know what this is. [2:34:31, 2:34:45]: But Howard, could you, Ms. Johnson, could you talk about a little bit of what this is and how this is protecting the city and why it's important to extend the memorandum for the protection of the quality of life in the community? [2:34:47, 2:34:49]: Absolutely. [2:34:50, 2:34:53]: So a moratorium for those who are are watching. [2:34:54, 2:34:57]: Moratorium is a measure that um [2:34:58, 2:34:58]: Um [2:34:58, 2:35:03]: That the each local government city county is given federally. [2:35:04, 2:35:06]: In order to [2:35:07, 2:35:08]: You know, stop and take a moment. [2:35:09, 2:35:15]: review codes because a lot of times we receive requests that don't quite meet our code requirements. [2:35:15, 2:35:22]: And instead of denying something, we want to say, hold on, let's take a look at our current code as it pertains to the request. [2:35:22, 2:35:29]: and let's come up with what that means for us. And we have to do that assessment of quality of life. [2:35:29, 2:35:32]: For our residents, for our businesses as a result. [2:35:33, 2:35:36]: The there have been several moratorium that have been [2:35:37, 2:35:41]: Um approved by the council this year, two of which [2:35:41, 2:35:44]: Um are pertaining to rental. [2:35:44, 2:35:47]: subdivisions for new single family. [2:35:47, 2:35:50]: And also for hookah bars. [2:35:51, 2:35:53]: Cigar bars, cigar lounges, and hoogle lounges. [2:35:54, 2:35:56]: And due to the fact that we [2:35:57, 2:36:02]: Have moved the date for approval for the UDC, the Unified Land Development Code. [2:36:02, 2:36:10]: we have um wanted to we want to extend the moratorium to cover the time frame that they were going to be outstanding. [2:36:11, 2:36:12]: So [2:36:12, 2:36:14]: In that frame of mind. [2:36:15, 2:36:18]: The idea is any moratorium that's in place. [2:36:19, 2:36:25]: you make adjustments of how and the city determines how these particular uses should be allowed. [2:36:26, 2:36:38]: in what districts as a part of the unified development code. And that will be something that we explore um going forward when we bring this back to you in January. So the dates have been set. [2:36:39, 2:36:40]: Consistently. [2:36:41, 2:36:45]: For us to um bring this back to you guys by the end of January. [2:36:46, 2:36:51]: Um in the form of the UDC requirements. And I'll point those out as we do the [2:36:51, 2:36:53]: We make the recommendation in January. [2:36:54, 2:37:06]: Uh sir, just real quick. I I did that's the reason that I wanted that to be explained because we know everybody, not just the Pine View subdivision. [2:37:07, 2:37:09]: That was bought out by [2:37:09, 2:37:12]: A developer and all the homes sold. [2:37:12, 2:37:13]: And turned into rentals. [2:37:14, 2:37:17]: My neighborhood is being overrun by these companies. [2:37:17, 2:37:26]: Buying and renting out homes. Almost everybody all over the city is dealing with these big companies buying up homes. [2:37:27, 2:37:31]: Cash beating out home buyers who desperately want to move here. [2:37:31, 2:37:36]: to rent the property to somebody else. It's disgusting. And that's what's going on out there. [2:37:36, 2:37:56]: This is a critical piece of legislation that, and we're hoping to address this in the ULDC, where a lot of these situations are growing farthered in, but we any new subdivisions coming, we want to have a measure in place to keep what happened to us from happening to anybody else where these companies. [2:37:56, 2:38:03]: can come in and buy a whole neighborhood and make it into a rental community where nobody owns a home. [2:38:03, 2:38:07]: That's not the quality of life that we want in this community. [2:38:07, 2:38:14]: And we've taken a stand. No one can do that to a new subdivision today coming to us because of this moratory. [2:38:15, 2:38:17]: Council uh men Blount, go ahead, please. [2:38:21, 2:38:25]: On a new subdivision that is. On a new subdivision. [2:38:26, 2:38:28]: All right, uh Councilwoman Gantt. [2:38:29, 2:38:31]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [2:38:32, 2:38:47]: I when you look into that, Ms. Johnson, I have some concerns about the the definition of hookah bar slash is the lounges that use hookahs. Um I believe there's some challenges there right now. [2:38:48, 2:38:48]: Where [2:38:49, 2:38:50]: Um [2:38:50, 2:39:10]: And I've heard this from more than one business owner. Um, there might be a restaurant slash lounge or anything of that nature that wants to have hookahs, but they may not necessarily be considered a hookah bar. A hookah bar just has a menu pleather of different hookahs. [2:39:10, 2:39:12]: And different types of [2:39:12, 2:39:24]: I guess hookah, I don't smoke hookahah, so I don't know, but from my understanding, there's a menu of hookah. So let's say at a hookah bar, you might have 20 or 30 different varieties of hookahs, right? [2:39:24, 2:39:33]: at a regular lounge they offer hookah but it's under a certain amount of hookah they might have two or three different [2:39:34, 2:39:39]: flavors or so to call. But right now with our moratorium, the way it's written. [2:39:39, 2:39:51]: it cancels out anyone from having hookahs. And apparently that is a trend within the lounges and the and the club scene that you know our younger generation [2:39:52, 2:39:52]: Uh [2:39:53, 2:40:13]: does this hookah or or whatever the case may be. So I want us to look at maybe a numerical number there so that it will not dispecially those who have tobacco license or whatever the case may be, that it won't affect the necessarily the lounge that has maybe two or three options compared to a [2:40:13, 2:40:14]: Hookah bar. [2:40:14, 2:40:20]: where uh you know a cigar bar or cigar lounge with that just solely that's all they do. [2:40:21, 2:40:24]: Um, I've seen that lately. So if we can kinda [2:40:25, 2:40:32]: See if we can find some type of limits on that and define it to so that the lounges won't get caught up in that rhetoric. [2:40:33, 2:40:41]: Um, you know, with those complications. And I've heard that from at least three or four businesses, at least. [2:40:41, 2:40:42]: Um [2:40:43, 2:40:45]: And so that is a concern. [2:40:45, 2:40:50]: And other than that, in regards to real estate property, um [2:40:51, 2:40:55]: Mm uh mm what Mayor Pro Tem just mentioned, um [2:40:56, 2:41:10]: There's a common trend right now. There was an article done in AJC actually, and there's a common trend right now of different property management companies buying subdivisions or actually building the subdivision with no intention of selling. [2:41:11, 2:41:13]: Their intention is to rent. [2:41:13, 2:41:14]: Um [2:41:14, 2:41:17]: That's an ongoing trend that's just not [2:41:17, 2:41:30]: only here in Stockbridge, but all over the nation going on right now. And I don't know if that's you know apparently there's a high demand for it. There's um research done about millennials. [2:41:30, 2:41:38]: not wanting to purchase but want to rent and and rent for a long period of time, but they don't want an apartment, they want a home, and then they go and they rent somewhere else. [2:41:39, 2:41:45]: And there does need to be limitations. I don't know if that's going to be applicable if it's within our our. [2:41:45, 2:41:49]: jurisdiction to do or if it that's gonna have to be done on a state level. [2:41:50, 2:41:53]: Um are you aware of that, Miss Johnson, or what can be done? [2:41:54, 2:41:59]: Well uh to answer your first question about hookah bars, lounges. [2:41:59, 2:42:19]: Part of the legal review process is going to be to address really case law in regards to hookah bars and lounges. And part of the legal review is to make sure that we're not put having information in our code, which can get us into legal turmoil. So what we would do is make sure we address specifically. [2:42:19, 2:42:28]: Um, what a hookah bar is versus a hookah lounge. And we look at best practices around the region, around the nation, in regards to how those are regulated. [2:42:28, 2:42:48]: And so the the zoning attorneys will make those specific statements, especially with the concern for moratorium being put in place at all. As it pertains to the rental properties for single family detached, you're correct. I mean, this is a constant issue. Um across [2:42:48, 2:42:53]: the region and actually in Henry County I've heard from several of my counterparts. [2:42:53, 2:42:56]: That this is just a a situation that we have to address. [2:42:57, 2:43:17]: Part of what the zoning attorney is going to do is look at and make sure we don't violate federal law, like Fair Housing Act, things like that. So those will be part of this process as the review continues to take place over the next 90 days to ensure that one, we're managing. [2:43:17, 2:43:18]: Yeah. [2:43:18, 2:43:21]: Keeping the the well being and the quality of our [2:43:21, 2:43:27]: of community intact and two making sure we don't violate federal law and [2:43:27, 2:43:30]: Make ourselves susceptible to these lawsuits. [2:43:31, 2:43:41]: So we will address those things specifically. And when we do have the information, we'll I'll make a note to uh bring that specifically to you all when we come back in January to present. [2:43:42, 2:43:47]: Well let me let me clarify. Uh I consider hookabar and lause the same thing. I'm saying [2:43:47, 2:43:57]: a another lounge. Let's say a a lounge that just plays music and have food and and they sell alcohol and they also offer hookahs. [2:43:58, 2:44:01]: Mm-hmm. And I don't go to either. [2:44:01, 2:44:08]: Uh either, but um we will find out for sure what that needs to be. Is what I'm saying. [2:44:08, 2:44:16]: Because right now we're stopping it all. Whereas there's some lounges and there are different places that may want to sell. [2:44:16, 2:44:29]: to offer the service of a few hookah options, but they're not a hookah bar or lounge. But they have they have tobacco license. So they're right now because we have a moratorium, it stops. [2:44:30, 2:44:33]: the lounges from being able to sell [2:44:34, 2:44:39]: the smaller selection of hookahs that they have. And that's what I want our attorneys and that's what I want. [2:44:40, 2:44:46]: um looked into how do we differentiate based off of a number or menu or whatever the case may be. [2:44:46, 2:44:52]: That's the error that in the problem that I'm seeing right now. And that's coming from [2:44:53, 2:44:55]: I think about four different businesses. [2:44:57, 2:45:00]: Definitely something we'll look into uh legal speaking. Definitely do that. [2:45:01, 2:45:03]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [2:45:04, 2:45:10]: Yeah, those those have a lot of those concerns have come my way also because we established what it is about tobacco. [2:45:11, 2:45:15]: And we established that hookahs and vapes are two separate entities. [2:45:16, 2:45:16]: And so [2:45:18, 2:45:20]: But to differentiate [2:45:20, 2:45:25]: All three in his categories. Uh when can we because the [2:45:25, 2:45:27]: If something is defined. [2:45:28, 2:45:36]: Then we as a city have to figure out a way to enforce it. So when will we get something back from you, Ms. Johnson, on on the on defining those uh entities? [2:45:38, 2:45:45]: It's just part of what we'll do to you know get with the legal team once they have had an opportunity to review and provide those specifically. [2:45:45, 2:45:51]: Um then we'll be able to provide that to you all. We think it'll most certainly be before January twenty fifth. [2:45:52, 2:45:55]: Cause of course we want to get the draft to you all to review. [2:45:55, 2:45:56]: Um prior to that time. [2:45:58, 2:45:58]: Thank you. [2:45:59, 2:46:00]: Absolutely. [2:46:00, 2:46:10]: Are there any other questions? And if not, I need a motion to go ahead and extend this moratorium to at least the thirty-first of January, 2023. [2:46:10, 2:46:17]: Move Ms. Blount. Okay, got Mr. Maripotem. Uh made the motion. Mr. Blount, do you second that motion, sir? [2:46:17, 2:46:20]: Okay, good deal. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [2:46:21, 2:46:28]: Namaste decision. Thank you very much. All right. Now I'll go on to uh my comments. First of all, of course, um [2:46:28, 2:46:33]: October is breast cancer awareness month and also domestic violence awareness month as well. [2:46:33, 2:46:53]: And so and I read those proclamations that are meeting earlier this this month, uh council regular council meeting. So I am wearing purple to honor domestic violence uh awareness month this time as I wore pink the last meeting. So I want to cover that in that aspect. And so thank you very much for that um in that aspect there. So let's see here. [2:46:53, 2:47:00]: We had an outstanding second concert with Freddie Jackson and with Chuka Khan this past Saturday. [2:47:00, 2:47:07]: It wasn't quite a sold-out like our grand opening, but uh obviously we had a good time in this aspect. That is the last concert. [2:47:07, 2:47:27]: uh this particular uh year, this season. And the management companies is working towards at least 12 to 14 concerts for next season, which will start as is right now the mid-March to the end of October. So different types of music will be coming and council you'll get a we'll get a chance to uh get an idea of what those dates and those [2:47:27, 2:47:30]: acts are and assume here about that. [2:47:30, 2:47:50]: So the the the venue is dormant now for several months. And so there'll be some things, so adjustments they go with the amphitheater, some things that the management company is gonna come to us for to make things even better, streamline the whole process of the uh concert uh experience. And also there, as Mr. Blount had uh mentioned before, uh [2:47:50, 2:48:08]: in the sense that uh there will be some construction things going on as well with road improvements to help with the traffic flow in and out of the concert when uh in this aspect as well. So uh so you'll get a chance to uh see those and and review those and approve those particular projects here very shortly, council on that note. [2:48:08, 2:48:28]: Congratulations to the National League champions, the Atlanta Braves. I have no idea what they're doing tonight. I know in their game tonight, so I have no idea whether or not they're winning or not. I don't know if anybody else knows that. But I wish them well, of course, as I imagine you do, you also do. [2:48:28, 2:48:29]: Yeah. [2:48:29, 2:48:34]: It's long overdue. I think things plenty plenty uh what, twenty plus years, I guess, since they b last band or one. [2:48:35, 2:48:36]: Two Nathan Bridge. [2:48:37, 2:48:49]: Two nothing Braves. There you go. All right. So so take care of them Astros, Braves. Do it. So I'm I'm pretty sure everybody's supporting our home team and that they become a World Series champions in that aspect as well. [2:48:50, 2:49:10]: You know, ladies and gentlemen, it's your constitutional right to vote. And so we have uh elections uh uh early early voting going on right now until the 30th, and then of course election days on the on the second. So after municipal elections, so use your constitutional right. Plenty of people gave the blood, sweat, and tears in their lives for your constitutional right. Besides voting on the municipal election, [2:49:10, 2:49:15]: T S Plus, you need to vote T S PLOS and say yes to T S PLOS extremely important. [2:49:17, 2:49:20]: If you say yes, which I hope that the citizens of the county do that. [2:49:20, 2:49:40]: That's roughly$245 million for the county itself and it gives the city of Stockbridge$30.5 million over five-year period. And we can take that$30.5 million and do plenty of road improvements, expansion of the Rock Croix Road. And we can do some road improvements on Eagles Land and Hudson Bridge. We can also [2:49:40, 2:49:59]: Also take the underserved communities of Stockbridge and put in roads, well improve the roads, but put in sidewalks and gutter and pedestrian walkways and a trail network. We want to have a trail network so we can connect communities to one another and connect communities to the downtown area. [2:49:59, 2:50:19]: Downtown area, of course, our vision is to have that entertainment section, entertainment area, tourist attraction. We got the amphitheater there. So what we want to do is we want to have make sure over the bridge that goes over Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail and the railroad tracks there. We want to make sure we have a pedestrian asset assigned to that bridge so you can walk from the east side. [2:50:19, 2:50:37]: to the west side without getting hit by a car. You can do it safely. You can travel about. You can go from the amphitheater to the entertainment area of downtown. That's part of the vision, folks. So we need that. And a lot of different streets within the city that we want to improve those roads. And we can do that with a yes vote. [2:50:37, 2:50:39]: When from you when you go vote. [2:50:39, 2:50:59]: On in that aspect, we can do that. We can do it in five years. If we do not pass this countywide, we can eventually get all these things done, but it's going to take probably 15 years or longer. So please vote yes. And matter of fact, uh, on Tuesday, election day, you go to your normal uh site, whether it's the stock. [2:50:59, 2:51:17]: Andor Red Oak. Now I want to make sure I'm accurate on that for the county, for the city and the county, Miss Holliday. On the election on election day, since you're our election supervisor for a state on November 2nd, where do people need to go to make sure to cover this down? Ms. Holliday, please. [2:51:17, 2:51:26]: In the city of Stockbridge, you will be voting on your mayor and council members at Red Oak United Methodist Church. [2:51:26, 2:51:31]: Stockbridge First United Methodist Church and the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [2:51:31, 2:51:33]: If those are also your county. [2:51:34, 2:51:37]: Voting locations, you will be able to make both of those. [2:51:37, 2:51:40]: uh choices for the tea splots and your [2:51:41, 2:51:42]: Municipal. [2:51:42, 2:51:47]: uh candidates in the same location. If that is not your county [2:51:47, 2:51:54]: voting place, you will have to go to your neighborhood voting location to vote for the T Splots. [2:51:56, 2:51:57]: I believe I've covered it, Mayor. [2:51:57, 2:52:17]: Okay, and of course, everything is on our website, it's Starberry's website. We'll take a look at that. And uh please folks go out and vote. We need to we need to say yes, yes to T Splash. And one other thing I'd like to mention to you tonight is that of course we're still in a pandemic. All right. So Red Hawk Field, you can go get tested for COVID-19 on all these variants. All right. [2:52:17, 2:52:31]: All right, and that's located at 143 Henry Parkway, free of charge from 9 a.m. to 3 PM and on Tuesdays through Thursdays. Okay, please do that. And also you can get tested and or even take the vaccination. [2:52:32, 2:52:43]: at uh the public health department. And you can do that by making a reservation, going in, call them, make a reservation, or just walk it and walk into the public health department, which is also located on Henry Parkway in Madonna. [2:52:43, 2:53:03]: That is 800-847-4262. 800-847-4262. Now I would imagine as time goes on, this the boosters are going to start being available for folks in this aspect. So if you're already taking the vaccination, you need a booster, your time is coming. Please do so to get yourself, keep yourself safe. And of course, all the providers. [2:53:03, 2:53:22]: Providers for the vaccination are working on vaccinations for our young folks, for our kids, our children, grade school and high school kids. So that we're gonna please keep up with that. And hopefully, adults, you'll get your children vaccinated so they can continue to be healthy and not spread this virus and keep you healthy in the process. [2:53:22, 2:53:24]: It it as well in this aspect. [2:53:24, 2:53:30]: So continue to look forward to that and continue to be advocates of please getting the vaccination and get tested. [2:53:31, 2:53:35]: And of course after you get tested and find out you're negative, go get the vaccination. [2:53:35, 2:53:46]: Um on that note, oh and by the way, the numbers are going down, so hopefully they'll continue to go down during the Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's holiday. Hopefully it will continue to go down. [2:53:46, 2:53:51]: And things uh there's uh things are going down and getting better, whereas Piemont Henry's not getting oversaturated. [2:53:52, 2:53:59]: With individuals in ICO or ICU or people on ventilators, but we want to keep it that way. We want to keep dropping this. And the best way to do this is get vaccinated. [2:54:00, 2:54:08]: On that note, I'll continue on with city council with announcement. City Council meeting 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, the second Monday of each month, which is November 8th. [2:54:09, 2:54:15]: The U council meetings is the at 530 by way of Zoom, second Wednesday of each month. And the next one is November 10th. [2:54:16, 2:54:23]: The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. away of Zoom, which is November 12th. [2:54:23, 2:54:30]: Downtown Development Downtown Development Authority meeting 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is November 16th. [2:54:30, 2:54:36]: Youth Council and Advisory Meeting, 6:30 by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is uh November sixteenth. [2:54:36, 2:54:43]: Our next city council work session by way of Zune, the last Tuesday of each month, which is actually November 30th, right after Thanksgiving. [2:54:44, 2:54:50]: And a planning commission meeting at 6 30 by way of Zoom. And it's the revised date for that is December 2nd. [2:54:51, 2:54:53]: Stockbridge annual Veterans Day virtual event. [2:54:54, 2:55:00]: will be Thursday, November 11th, 11 AM, uh Facebook Live and YouTube. [2:55:00, 2:55:05]: And so uh check with your events page uh for more information at the city of Stockbridge. [2:55:05, 2:55:16]: And we have a salute to veterans. Please four pictures of veterans, including name, rank, uh, branch, years of service to Councilman Thomas, as he presents a special tribute to our local veterans. [2:55:16, 2:55:32]: Pictures should be submitted to uh Z Pearson at the city of Stockbridge dash G A.gov. Once again as Z Pearson uh at city of Stockbridge dash G A dot Gov. Uh Zenobia is our assistant to the Marin Council. [2:55:33, 2:55:35]: Submit those no later than November fifth. [2:55:35, 2:55:38]: And of course, thank you for your service in this aspect as well. [2:55:39, 2:55:44]: We also have an opportunity to meet the mayor and voice your questions and concerns on Monday, November twenty second. [2:55:44, 2:55:54]: for 10 a.m. to noon and you can schedule that by calling 770-389-7900 and talk with uh Miss uh Zenobia Pearson about that as well. [2:55:55, 2:56:15]: Support our small local businesses during the entire month of November with special emphasis on Shop Small Saturday, which is November 27th, which is right after Thanksgiving. And okay, small businesses owner, small business owners can register to participate in the Stock Bridge Small Business Blitz and Small Business Saturday by contacting. [2:56:15, 2:56:18]: in the Main Street program office at Main Street. [2:56:19, 2:56:39]: at at city of stopbridge dash ga.gov. Once again Main Street at city of stopbridge dash GA dot gov or contacting Lisa Fare at 6783 3325. Once again Lisa Faree at 678 833 3325. [2:56:38, 2:56:58]: interested in participating in Stockbridge Small Business Blitz and Small Business Saturday are encouraged to attend the annual Small Business Idea Smash on Thursday, November 4th at 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. And once again, check the city's Main Street website on the city events page to get more information about that as well. [2:56:58, 2:57:04]: On that note, uh council, do we have an executive session uh issue? Yes, ma'am. [2:57:05, 2:57:25]: Sorry, if if I may, um I have a fall festival coming up on this Saturday. Um it's from 12 to 4. It's a family fun event. We have a lot of prizes, um some old good old-fashioned fall festival. We're gonna have a costume contest for different age groups. Um [2:57:25, 2:57:29]: Greg Street is our DJ from B103 and [2:57:30, 2:57:50]: Um I have I believe it's just going to be a really good time, a lot of candy and some great vendors and just something to bring the community together. Um make sure you come out. It's at the Clark Park, uh, which is right by Merrill Manders. And it's from 12 to 4 Saturday. I I think everyone will have an [2:57:50, 2:58:00]: Awesome time. We have some rides. We have some, you name it. So I look forward to seeing you there. Um, if you can attend, um, I also um [2:58:01, 2:58:21]: And Alpha Kappa Alpha, Sorority Incorporated, Psi Alpha Omega chapter. That's the Henry County Clayton chapter, chapter that I'm a part of, will also be present. And we're asking, they are asking for the c they're collecting old eyeglasses. Old eyeglasses. They've partnered with, we have partnered. [2:58:21, 2:58:39]: partnered with the Lions Club. And they're collecting old eyeglasses. So if you have any old eyeglasses, please come by. It's a for a great cause. They have agreed to partner with me and actually be present for that. So thank you to my Sol Roars. [2:58:39, 2:58:56]: But more importantly, thank you to all the community that will be participating. And this is just gonna be a fun, fun event. I want us to have some fun. Some cake, we're gonna have a cakewalk and music and walk and candy and you name it. Um just a good time. So [2:58:56, 2:58:57]: Please come and join us. [2:58:57, 2:59:02]: Okay, thank you. Councilwoman Barber, I'm sorry, I I missed yours as well. You have something still going on, ma'am? [2:59:04, 2:59:07]: Yes, Zumba every Saturday at Clark. [2:59:08, 2:59:10]: At eight AM to nine a.m. [2:59:11, 2:59:12]: It's out of it. [2:59:12, 2:59:14]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, sir. [2:59:14, 2:59:20]: Yeah, I just wanted to say, Mayor, since he was talking about the events in November, that uh we have it in the Noel in November is gonna be uh [2:59:21, 2:59:23]: On November the eighteenth, which is um [2:59:23, 2:59:26]: A toy drive and we partner in um [2:59:26, 2:59:40]: partnering with uh we we do it with uh Stevie G and the Rockers, the Vintage Viction's gonna be there, live music, games for kids, and we're we're collecting unwrapped uh t new toys, uh toy drive for kids. Also um [2:59:40, 2:59:42]: Um got a question. [2:59:42, 2:59:43]: Um [2:59:44, 2:59:51]: Chief Trainber mentioned of an event on the sixth at the Merrill Manders. Are are we opening the Merrill Manders now? [2:59:51, 2:59:52]: Just a question. [2:59:53, 3:00:13]: But it's gonna be open on that day for him to have his meeting with the community. And the requirement would be, of course, to have mass and we'll separate individuals and uh spread out in this nature and this aspect. And of course, that's the first one. The second one he plans to have, of course, by the reverbal. And I believe that's on the 16th of the month. [3:00:13, 3:00:20]: And uh so in that aspect, yes, it we're open it for that specific event. And and it was mentioned earlier. [3:00:21, 3:00:40]: Uh actually Mayor Pro Tem did this earlier, but it was mentioned earlier that I also had a District 3 South meeting a couple several months or so ago, a listing session with GMA. And we did that at the exact same time as well, where we spread out and wore masks for that as well. Um I didn't mean to answer for the chief, but uh he's online. I don't know if you need to add anything else or not. [3:00:40, 3:00:54]: uh uh for the comment for your question. But um that that's what's happening for that, sir. You got something else, sir. Go ahead. Yeah, just a follow up. Uh yeah, the the the Noel in November, like I said, is a toy drive and it's a lot, you know, we just want to invite every, you know, the community out. [3:00:54, 3:00:58]: Uh Chief Chairman, um forgive me if I didn't, but I thank you for your presentation. [3:00:58, 3:01:11]: uh that you gave the uh counselor today. Uh I do thank you for that, sir. Uh but it is gonna be on November the 18th. Uh I think it's from five to five to seven, I believe it is. [3:01:11, 3:01:16]: I have to look back on the calendar, but it we got other information coming out soon and gonna be posted on it. But Noel in November. [3:01:17, 3:01:21]: A good deal. Okay, seems like Mare Pro Tem, you got something sir before we close out. [3:01:21, 3:01:41]: Yeah, my uh I want everybody to join me for our town hall uh Thursday night at eight o'clock. So you can actually hear about a hundred million dollars in investment that has been made in the city of Stockbridge over the last few years, even during the pandemic. Uh, you know, we could do a much better job of getting [3:01:41, 3:01:47]: out the information about new businesses that are investing millions of dollars in the community. [3:01:48, 3:01:50]: And you have a chance to hear. [3:01:50, 3:01:52]: Uh from those business owners. [3:01:52, 3:01:54]: And in their own words on why [3:01:55, 3:02:00]: They chose to invest millions of dollars uh in the city of Stockbridge, bolstering [3:02:00, 3:02:20]: The economy. You will also be able to learn about the uh developments that are uh ongoing uh by these uh tremendous business folks. You will also get to understand how serious the traffic will break down uh the traffic projects and what's going on and your opportunity to actually vote. [3:02:20, 3:02:26]: vote in the most important election uh of your lifetime in terms of transportation here. [3:02:26, 3:02:28]: In Henry County, as the mayor said. [3:02:29, 3:02:32]: It's critical on the T splass and we'll actually go into [3:02:33, 3:02:34]: The project detail [3:02:34, 3:02:38]: uh on this town hall so we can uh completely understand. [3:02:38, 3:02:42]: That we're serious about a building Atlanta belt line type trail system. [3:02:42, 3:02:44]: And we're also serious about. [3:02:44, 3:02:46]: Winding rock quarry road. [3:02:47, 3:02:56]: Uh and and fixing the traffic that you complain about every single day will be a full update. So join us Thursday at eight o'clock on Facebook. [3:02:57, 3:03:01]: All right. Appreciate all the all the messages, all those events that coming on. I do not [3:03:02, 3:03:06]: Uh councilman Thomas Player, sir. Yeah, just briefly uh please join me and [3:03:06, 3:03:08]: The Cargran Library. [3:03:08, 3:03:14]: uh on Berk Street for Halloween festivities uh on Thursday. Thank you. [3:03:15, 3:03:31]: Fantastic. And by the way, on that note, everybody please have a safe uh holiday events, all your events in your community in this aspect as well. And don't eat too much candy, right? In this aspect. But uh on that note, uh the attorneys don't have anything that they know of for executive session. So I asked the council, we have anything with executive session or not? [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: Yes or no? [3:03:33, 3:03:42]: Move to adjourn. Okay, so I need okay, motion to adjourn and Mirapal Tim, seconded by uh Councilman Blount. All in favor, please indicate. [3:03:43, 3:03:53]: It's Unancy and we stand adjourned. God bless you all. Thank you. It's Unancy Sizion. Good night, everybody. Have a good time.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority Meeting date: 2021-10-19 source: 2021-10-19_Downtown_Development_Authority_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:18]: Uh hello everyone. We are at the October regular meeting for the Downtown Development Authority. And uh it's today is October 19th at 6 p.m. Um so uh Bob, if we could start off with uh roll call, please. [0:00:21, 0:00:25]: Okay. Uh Roger Custon? I am here. [0:00:26, 0:00:27]: Uh art Christian. [0:00:28, 0:00:28]: Present. [0:00:29, 0:00:30]: Синікокінь. [0:00:31, 0:00:31]: Present. [0:00:32, 0:00:33]: Um [0:00:33, 0:00:34]: Barber Richardson? [0:00:38, 0:00:38]: Mm. [0:00:39, 0:00:40]: Uh Maxwell Sears. [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: And Bob Swagert the I'm here. [0:00:47, 0:00:51]: And uh Councilwoman Gantt as well. And and Gantt. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Okay. [0:00:57, 0:01:08]: Well, we do have four out of the seven members, so I believe that constitutes a quorum. So um we will officially open the meeting at six oh three p.m. [0:01:10, 0:01:30]: Right. And uh we also have uh a few of the city staff. Thank you for joining and supporting the DDA, Alan Peterson, Kira, uh Harris Braggs, as well as um our trusted uh uh uh city clerk, Vanessa Holliday. Thank you all for joining. And also for the [0:01:30, 0:01:35]: the record Barber welcome I th I see you've joined as well [0:01:35, 0:01:37]: Yeah, welcome, welcome. [0:01:38, 0:01:55]: Three. All right. So first item on the agenda is to approve today's agenda. So it was sent out on uh October the 13th and a few days later as well. So I'd like to hear a motion to approve today's agenda. [0:01:57, 0:02:03]: I move that we approve the agenda today's agenda. All right, thank you. Second. [0:02:04, 0:02:08]: That was Samequa. Thank you. So is there any discussion? [0:02:12, 0:02:32]: All right, so we will do this by um I I know not all the cameras are on, so uh let's look for whoever has the camera and uh vote to approve today's agenda, we'll raise our hands in favor. And so that is myself, Art, Bob, and Barber. [0:02:32, 0:02:38]: Uh Samaqua, yeah, yes or no for today's agenda. So we'll say yes. So it's unanimous. Thank you. [0:02:42, 0:02:58]: All right, next item on the agenda is the August 17th meeting minutes. They were uh sent on October the 13th. So um I'll uh like to hear a motion not to approve the October 17th meeting minutes as prepared by the city clerk. [0:02:58, 0:03:01]: So moved. Thank you, Art. [0:03:01, 0:03:01]: Second. [0:03:02, 0:03:03]: All right. [0:03:05, 0:03:07]: Second, first. All right. Any discussion? [0:03:11, 0:03:23]: Hearing none, uh, we'll do the same thing. Those with the camera on, you uh raise your hand in favor of approving uh the August 17th meeting minutes. All right, I see unanimous by those and Sumikwa, yes or no? [0:03:23, 0:03:26]: Um, do I have to abstain? Because I wasn't at that meeting. [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: You may. Okay. [0:03:31, 0:03:49]: Thank you. All right. So that uh that moves those items along. So I don't have any uh opening remarks, so we will move right into the uh treasurer's update. So uh Barber, did you want to present or you want me to uh present the report you sent just earlier? [0:03:49, 0:03:54]: You you mean as in on the screen? If you can share your screen. I sure will. Okay. [0:03:54, 0:03:56]: I'm working on two computers. I'm sorry. [0:03:56, 0:04:01]: No worries. Let me get it ready and I'll have it in just a moment. [0:04:03, 0:04:03]: Let me see. [0:04:04, 0:04:05]: Alright. [0:04:08, 0:04:12]: Okay, it is here. Let me share the screen. [0:04:19, 0:04:20]: All right. [0:04:21, 0:04:26]: If you can confirm you can see it. Yes, we can we can. All right, very good. [0:04:28, 0:04:31]: Pretty uneventful. We've actually had no change in cash. [0:04:31, 0:04:32]: Um [0:04:33, 0:04:46]: Since June of 2021, the cash balance has remained the same for July, August, and September. The uh outstanding liability to the city for the trend uh the surveying transaction, that check has been [0:04:46, 0:04:47]: Um [0:04:47, 0:04:53]: sent and I did check the account today and it was cleared but it didn't clear till October but we did send it in September. [0:04:54, 0:05:02]: So as of September 30th, it still shows up as a liability, but as of today, October 19th, it has since cleared the bank. [0:05:02, 0:05:05]: Um the only other items that we have. [0:05:06, 0:05:08]: Roger, if you can scroll down, coming up. [0:05:09, 0:05:15]: Is a legal bill due to our attorney for his review of the bylaws in the IGA. [0:05:16, 0:05:23]: Um, and what's not presented, I think there is gonna be a bill for Zoom, which is gonna just be a monthly ongoing operating expense. [0:05:23, 0:05:27]: Um but as of now that's the only thing that we have outstanding. So [0:05:27, 0:05:36]: Again, cash balance has remained the same for the past three months. In October, we will see that reduction for the Saveane sale. [0:05:36, 0:05:43]: Um, and then we'll probably also see the legal fees and operating expenses, which would be just the Zoom transaction. [0:05:43, 0:05:45]: On the next tab. [0:05:45, 0:05:49]: You'll see that's reflected. We have no expenses that we've incurred on the PNL. [0:05:50, 0:05:52]: The past three months, so [0:05:52, 0:05:59]: We're still sitting, no revenue or no expenses. So we're still kind of just sitting where we were for our last report. [0:06:00, 0:06:03]: I will entertain any questions if you have any. [0:06:07, 0:06:08]: Any f any questions for Barber? [0:06:11, 0:06:13]: I go ahead. [0:06:16, 0:06:32]: All right, I have a question and a comment. So the uh Sylvain uh transaction, I had a follow, I believe after you had sent the check, maybe it was received, I did get a comment from um a note from uh Mr. Wiggins, John Wiggins, the city treasurer, um um asking for the um [0:06:33, 0:06:50]: uh the final paperwork for that transaction. I did forward it to him. So Alan, if there's anything remaining pending from the city's perspective that they need to, you know, receive that payment and close the books on that transaction, uh, please let me know. But I believe I've forwarded what he needed. [0:06:50, 0:06:52]: Um the [0:06:52, 0:07:12]: Uh other question, if I can just bring up the topic about the Zoom. So just since we're here and Vanessa's on as well, um I is it Barber, I don't know if you saw my note, but maybe we can I'd rather go ahead and just set it up with our uh debit accounts. So maybe we can set up a time separate from this meeting to uh do that once you're in the office. All right. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Right? Yes. Okay. [0:07:15, 0:07:15]: [436.4, 442.0]: And I think that's it for that I had for financial. Any other comments or questions? [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: All right. Thank you for that. [0:07:26, 0:07:35]: Stop sharing. And next item on the agenda is uh secretary updates. Bob, do you have anything to share with the group? Uh no. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: All right. [0:07:37, 0:07:51]: Are you okay with this uh uh being on the I mean, I know we approved the agenda, but you know, I just kind of have this sort of uh as a regular item on the agenda to touch base with you if you have anything for the group. Are you cool with leaving it on there like that? Yeah, oh absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. [0:07:51, 0:07:59]: All right. And that brings that brings us to the next item, the Main Street Advisory Board updates. So Barber, I'll start with you and we also have Kara with us today. [0:08:00, 0:08:10]: I've been out. So please, please, I would defer to to Kira as I've uh unfortunately had to miss my last two meetings with Main Street. [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: All right, great. [0:08:12, 0:08:21]: Kira, what do you have for the group? Good evening, everyone. Um, I just wanted to um give you all a few notes on [0:08:22, 0:08:27]: um some of our downtown um projects and [0:08:29, 0:08:30]: Um our amphitheater. [0:08:30, 0:08:34]: We have um as you all know um [0:08:34, 0:08:44]: held a grand opening for the downtown amphitheater. We had a sold-out performance for Gladys featuring Gladys Knight and Patty LaBelle. [0:08:44, 0:08:54]: on the um twenty fifth of September. It was a sold out crowd and we um had a ribbon cutting and all of that good stuff. So it was um [0:08:55, 0:09:03]: Very well received, I think, by the Stockbridge community and the visitors that um came into our midst for that particular. [0:09:03, 0:09:06]: event. We have another [0:09:06, 0:09:11]: Um concert that will be hosted in the amphitheater on October the twenty third. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: Um that will be featuring um [0:09:14, 0:09:17]: The performers Shaka Khan and Freddie Jackson. [0:09:17, 0:09:21]: And tickets are on sale now for that particular. [0:09:21, 0:09:23]: Performance as well. [0:09:23, 0:09:34]: So if you haven't had a chance to um go to a performance, if you weren't able to go to the grand opening, here's your next chance to be able to. [0:09:35, 0:09:38]: Um, see the amphitheater in action. [0:09:38, 0:09:39]: Um also [0:09:40, 0:09:55]: Um with regard to the amphitheater, we've had several um tours that have um gone um through the amphitheater. So the community is also getting um the opportunity to see the amphitheater. [0:09:56, 0:10:04]: In um different tour groups. So we're hoping that the word is getting spread about the amphitheater, how fabulous it is, and um [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: How um [0:10:07, 0:10:11]: It is going to be um a great asset for the community. [0:10:12, 0:10:19]: With regard to um downtown projects, we have the um Ted Strickland uh repurposing project. [0:10:19, 0:10:21]: Um that bid [0:10:21, 0:10:27]: Um has gone out. I think that um Lisa reported that at your last meeting and um [0:10:28, 0:10:32]: The contractor viz site visit was held um [0:10:32, 0:10:39]: in September on the um fourteenth, I think it was. So that bid should be closing very soon. [0:10:40, 0:10:44]: And um a contractor will be selected for the work on that particular building. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: Uh one fourteen MLK. [0:10:47, 0:10:58]: Um, which is the our white box project. The contractor bid went out on September the 8th, and a contractor site visit was held on October 5th. [0:10:59, 0:11:04]: So the bid that bid will also be coming to a close at the end of this month as well. [0:11:05, 0:11:05]: The [0:11:06, 0:11:08]: Mm um alleyway project. [0:11:08, 0:11:14]: Uh Main Street hosted an Allery Project presentation uh meeting on September the twenty-seventh. [0:11:14, 0:11:34]: It was very well attended. We had the majority of the property owners for the buildings that are on both Burke Street and Martin Luther King Senior Caritage Trail, including representatives from the lodge, the Masonic Lodge, were at this particular meeting. [0:11:34, 0:11:38]: Uh, Falcon design consultants uh provided an overview. [0:11:38, 0:11:43]: of the project and were there to field any questions that [0:11:43, 0:11:49]: folks had with regard to the project. This was our first time really presenting it to um the [0:11:50, 0:11:53]: Property owners who would be impacted by [0:11:53, 0:11:54]: B. [0:11:54, 0:12:02]: Project. So we were very excited to see so many people. I think only um two property owners were not. [0:12:03, 0:12:07]: Um there, but I have talked with one of them since. [0:12:07, 0:12:11]: The uh meeting and have scheduled a time for them to. [0:12:11, 0:12:14]: Come downtown and meet with me to talk about the project. So [0:12:15, 0:12:18]: That leaves only one property owner that we have to [0:12:18, 0:12:22]: um touch so to speak to make sure that they know what we're planning for. [0:12:23, 0:12:24]: Um that project. [0:12:25, 0:12:27]: We are also going to be [0:12:27, 0:12:42]: um meeting with each property owner individually so that we can talk with them about any concerns that they may have and any input that they have with regard to the plans. And then once we have met with everyone, [0:12:42, 0:12:46]: those plans will be finalized and we'll be able to send that project out for be it. [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: And that's about all that I have with regard to [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: Our projects in the downtown area. [0:12:56, 0:12:57]: And that concludes my report. [0:12:59, 0:13:01]: Uh Art looks like you have a question for Kira. [0:13:02, 0:13:04]: Yes, Kira, could you give us the uh [0:13:04, 0:13:10]: Approximate timeframe of the Alloway project going to bid. I know it's gotta go through the process, but [0:13:11, 0:13:12]: Approximate. [0:13:14, 0:13:14]: You muted. [0:13:17, 0:13:17]: You're muted. [0:13:18, 0:13:19]: Sorry about that. [0:13:19, 0:13:21]: Um I [0:13:21, 0:13:28]: Don't want to give a date for a start date because we still have to meet with all of the property owners and [0:13:29, 0:13:34]: We have to get finalized designs um before we can take it to bed. [0:13:34, 0:13:38]: I would like for everything to go to bed before the end of the year. [0:13:38, 0:13:39]: Um [0:13:39, 0:13:49]: But that will just depend on how quickly we can meet with all of the property owners, get their feedback, then get with the um engineers and [0:13:49, 0:13:50]: Get all of that. [0:13:51, 0:13:54]: Stuff completed before we can even put it out to be when the bid. [0:13:54, 0:13:56]: process is about um [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: Two to three months, I think it is. [0:14:00, 0:14:01]: So [0:14:01, 0:14:06]: Um, we're hoping that we can at least start it before the end of the year. [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: Thank you. [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: Mm-hmm. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Any other questions for Kira? [0:14:15, 0:14:35]: Um, I I I kind of want to follow up with the sort of with the art's comment. Um, I I know there were, you know, the next step for the alleyway project would be to get, you know, basically sign off from each of the business owners that are impacted by that area. And I know there's been some feedback on, you know, some possible design adjustments to uh what was presented at that meeting. [0:14:35, 0:14:49]: meeting. Do you do you feel optimistic here? Uh I mean, that that's resolvable at this stage? What what what are your thoughts as far as uh you know the concerns that were raised during and after the meeting? [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Um [0:14:51, 0:14:59]: I would say it's kind of a mixed bag. There were a couple of people who are not in favor of the project at all. [0:14:59, 0:15:04]: Um which was kind of surprising. Um I think that we [0:15:04, 0:15:18]: Um, the fact that we are willing to do something should have been um, or at least I'd hoped would have been incentive to get a lot of at least preliminary buy-in um at that particular meeting, but there were some people who [0:15:19, 0:15:19]: Um [0:15:20, 0:15:20]: Did not [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: Like the project at all. [0:15:23, 0:15:29]: And then but the majority did like the project and felt like it would be an improvement in the um alleyway. [0:15:29, 0:15:35]: There was um some contention about our plan to [0:15:35, 0:15:38]: Um, replace some of the асфальт. [0:15:38, 0:15:43]: that is back there that would have to be torn out um to do some of the [0:15:43, 0:15:44]: Um [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: Drainage work with gravel as opposed to [0:15:47, 0:15:52]: replacing the asphalt and the reason we were going in that direction was so that it would be [0:15:53, 0:15:56]: Um better ready for development. [0:15:56, 0:15:59]: Um, as opposed to having the [0:15:59, 0:16:02]: putting down new asphalt and then having that torn out. [0:16:02, 0:16:08]: If a new development um came along, you know, we have an el economic development director on board now. [0:16:08, 0:16:10]: So um [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: You know, we're trying to aggressively try to get some infill there. [0:16:14, 0:16:19]: But so that's one of the things that we might have to go back to the drawing board on and just see what [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Um cost [0:16:22, 0:16:27]: would be incurred with placing asphalt there as opposed to the gravel. [0:16:28, 0:16:30]: Um, also [0:16:30, 0:16:37]: There was some um concern about some of the landscaping that we had proposed with regard to. [0:16:37, 0:16:38]: Um the [0:16:39, 0:16:53]: the rears, the rear portions of those buildings up against those buildings. That's something that can be easily eliminated. We just won't do landscaping close to the buildings and maybe not any landscaping at all. Just make it kind of a [0:16:54, 0:16:54]: Um [0:16:55, 0:16:56]: A um [0:16:56, 0:17:00]: Blank surface, so to speak. We'd still do the pavers, but [0:17:00, 0:17:05]: leave out some of the landscaping ideas that were designed into the plan. [0:17:05, 0:17:06]: Um [0:17:06, 0:17:21]: So it's it's gonna have to be some more conversation to make sure that we can get at least the majority of people happy with uh what we'd like to propose. Um, but it is going to be very important. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: That we get. [0:17:22, 0:17:23]: Um [0:17:24, 0:17:30]: a a large majority of the people on board with it or we won't be able to move forward because of the properties that will be impacted. [0:17:33, 0:17:53]: Thank you. Um I guess a couple of points with that is um is it an all or nothing as far as uh the agreement? Does every business owner have to sign off on it in order to in order to move forward or do you just need a majority or is that kind of are you just kind of I don't know if that's I don't know what the, you know, whether you need to [0:17:52, 0:18:06]: specific approval from each and every owner that's it's really a pro it's really a a courtesy to for the city to even be um you know having these discussions really with the property owners um because [0:18:07, 0:18:26]: In all honesty, that the majority of that property that we wanted to work with belongs to the city. So we could just only be speaking with the people whose properties will actually be impacted as far as us needing to have easement or some sort of access onto their properties. Um so I would say no, but [0:18:26, 0:18:30]: With a project of this magnitude, it would be nice to get. [0:18:30, 0:18:36]: Um the majority of people happ happy with the project and um on board with it. [0:18:36, 0:18:42]: Um, so I don't want to say it's an all or nothing, but if it turns into something that's really contentious. [0:18:43, 0:18:45]: I think that it could threaten the [0:18:45, 0:18:47]: The viability of the project. [0:18:48, 0:18:52]: Surely, surely. And is there anything that the D D A can do to help? [0:18:53, 0:18:58]: um sort of build support in this, you know, to move, you know, to help move the project forward. [0:18:58, 0:19:15]: Um definitely um support the project. Um in its once we have some final drawings, support the project. If you all have relationships with any of those business owners, um please talk to them and um emphasize how. [0:19:15, 0:19:35]: Um important this is for the downtown and creating a more walkable, more um engaging space in the alleyway because our vision was to be able to utilize the alleyway as an extension of those businesses to [0:19:35, 0:19:44]: Make it so that we could even use that space as possible event space and auxiliary. [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: Patio, if you will. [0:19:46, 0:19:52]: So it's very important that this get done because it has been a neglected [0:19:52, 0:19:58]: um property and alleyway for a very long time. And I think that [0:19:58, 0:20:02]: Its unsightliness is a detraction. [0:20:02, 0:20:03]: Um [0:20:03, 0:20:06]: And maybe even a deterrent to um [0:20:06, 0:20:21]: businesses wanting to locate in the downtown because of its unsightliness and um neglect. So I'm hoping that when we after we've talked to all of the business owners and property rather property owners again. [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: And get a baseline of what we need to do to. [0:20:25, 0:20:40]: um correct some of the things that we can correct with regard to the design. If we had host another meeting, it would be great to have DDA members present. And we did have some DDA members present at the meeting that we hosted in September, if we can have [0:20:41, 0:20:48]: um everyone on board, Main Street and DDA to just kind of be that voice of support, I think that that would be helpful. [0:20:49, 0:20:57]: Indeed. And you know, if it helps in any form, um beyond that, like to maybe um ask the board for hold on just a minute. I'm sorry. [0:21:00, 0:21:05]: I can't for you. Sorry, I'm sharing a space with my daughter who's also [0:21:05, 0:21:25]: On a Zoom meeting. That's all right. I was gonna offer is you know, uh once once once we have um, you know, uh like a design that you feel is appropriate to bring to this board, the DDA, for maybe a formal, you know, approval, you know, ask the board to formally uh approve or adopt or resolve to, you know, support the plan if that gives [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Any kind of um [0:21:26, 0:21:39]: you know, formal support for it. We know I'm I'm happy to, you know, if you want to bring that forward to okay. That sounds good. And I think that that would be helpful because um we need as much support as we can um to get this done. [0:21:39, 0:21:49]: Agreed. All right. Well, thank you for that. Um, all right, so we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, the facade grant updates. Um, Art, do you have anything to update for the group? [0:21:49, 0:21:55]: Yes, and I'm gonna talk to you offline a little bit more, uh Roger, but one great thing about attending [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: They [0:21:57, 0:21:59]: Alleyway project uh meeting. [0:21:59, 0:22:14]: was afterwards, you know, I was interested in in just going back back there and uh Lisa happened to be back there with one of the homeowners, excuse me, the uh business owners. And I asked if I could join, you know, you know, the walkthrough uh, you know, talking about the issues back there. [0:22:14, 0:22:15]: And [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: It's I really saw the need for. [0:22:20, 0:22:26]: moving faster on facade grants. Um this business owner was very interested in that. [0:22:27, 0:22:29]: And um ліса also offered. [0:22:30, 0:22:31]: Uh [0:22:32, 0:22:37]: mentioned that the help that's available, I believe, through DCA in terms of [0:22:37, 0:22:39]: their expertise in [0:22:39, 0:22:43]: Working with those types of projects, uh, design, I believe. [0:22:43, 0:22:44]: Also [0:22:44, 0:22:46]: So that's definitely something [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: Um [0:22:47, 0:22:54]: that I definitely recognize and uh understand the need for to help move move that project along uh quicker. [0:22:54, 0:22:56]: And to get people's buy in. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: They can say, Hey [0:22:57, 0:23:00]: We can get something that can help spruce up this area. [0:23:00, 0:23:01]: Like for example [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: Uh as Kira was pointing out and the uh [0:23:06, 0:23:07]: The developers um [0:23:08, 0:23:09]: Or the designers. [0:23:09, 0:23:11]: Talking about the importance of those pavers. [0:23:12, 0:23:19]: And you know, there was a little opposition at first, but as they explained it and said how it would be so much better, you know, for a number of reasons. [0:23:19, 0:23:24]: Um you started seeing some people, you know, moved by, you know, after they finally understood, you know. [0:23:25, 0:23:27]: the potential of how it could improve their property. So [0:23:28, 0:23:32]: Um there hasn't been any movement on um on fletchers of course. [0:23:32, 0:23:35]: Um, you know, that's still in his that the bottle's still in his court in terms of [0:23:36, 0:23:42]: whether it are they're choosing to, you know, finish those repairs and submit those for reimbursement. But that's all I have. [0:23:43, 0:23:49]: All right, thank you. Um I guess on the last point, if I well, first of all, any questions for art or any any comments or questions for about the facade grant? [0:23:52, 0:24:12]: Um I I I you know we we did have the opportunity to speak to Mr. Fletcher. He was among the attendees at the uh alleyway project presentation. And um I I think you know my sense of it is that um you know it may require a little bit of just to bring that one to closure, um I think it may require a a [0:24:12, 0:24:28]: visit during business hours when I believe it's his daughter that um kind of helps handle the uh books and may be able to provide the paperwork. Cause I think in his mind he thought he'd turned everything over. And you know what he's uh we we know that what we received were [0:24:28, 0:24:48]: you know, invoices and proposals, but not actual uh pay, you know, receipts showing payment. And so, you know, there is a difference, and we really can't cut a check until we get those receipts. So I would say, you know, if there's any way myself or any of us, you know, on this team can help um, you know, just sort of help move. [0:24:48, 0:24:57]: move move him and and and his uh along so we can bring that to a conclusion. I'd like to see that happen. And the timing of that I think is is helpful both [0:24:57, 0:25:10]: just in general to support the facade grant, but also to uh help um provide some relationship building as it relates to the alleyway project, you know, showing that the city is, you know, meeting its part. [0:25:11, 0:25:12]: Roger. [0:25:12, 0:25:12]: Yes. [0:25:15, 0:25:18]: Just had a quick a quick question. Yes. Um [0:25:20, 0:25:26]: I think where we left it as far as when I was speaking with Mr. Fletcher, it was the [0:25:26, 0:25:30]: um issue with the permitting of the [0:25:30, 0:25:30]: Um [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: painting that had to be done and that had been resolved. [0:25:35, 0:25:46]: So I know that the question had been asked of the D D A about the fees that were associated with that, if it would be covered with the grant. Has he been told that that would be covered or? [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: Is that what some of the [0:25:49, 0:25:52]: Slowdown is or is there something else? [0:25:54, 0:26:14]: It it's hard to say, Art. I don't know if you have any different take on this. My my take is that um there was a there was quite a bit of confusion between the the sign and the sign permit at as it relates to being reimbursed for the work that he did do. Um we're looking at it, you know, the sign was technically never in scope for the facade grant because. [0:26:13, 0:26:27]: because it's it's just signage is not part of the scope. Uh but he did do many other things that are re you know are in scope for the grant, such as the repainting of the building and, you know, anything else that he uh had done in in that relation. So [0:26:28, 0:26:31]: Um I d I know that the I believe the um [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: The um [0:26:33, 0:26:41]: The city council voted to waive the signed fee for Mr. Fletcher to kind of help resolve that issue. [0:26:41, 0:26:46]: Um but you know, I in either case it's not related to the reimbursement for the facade grant. [0:26:47, 0:26:56]: But that's a part of the grant. The the painting of the striping and all of that was a part of the facade grant that he was requesting. [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: So if the that was one of the things that I guess was um [0:27:02, 0:27:04]: One of the slow down [0:27:04, 0:27:06]: One of the reasons for slowdown [0:27:06, 0:27:17]: from his point of view was because the it was unresolved as to whether or not he would have to pay the fees. The signage has been approved. It just has to be painted onto the building. [0:27:18, 0:27:29]: So because it's a being painted as opposed to a standalone signage, um, that's a part of the facade, so it should be covered by the [0:27:29, 0:27:31]: Um grant and [0:27:31, 0:27:35]: It he should be able to move forward, especially if the fees have been waived. [0:27:36, 0:27:56]: Right. Well, you know, that's work that hasn't yet been done. And, you know, in my mind, I'd like to just bring this particular case to a close for the work that was done. He did it. He did do a lot. I mean, you know, they did they repaved, they did a lot of stuff, you know, related and unrelated to the foot facade grant during the renovation that. [0:27:56, 0:28:08]: there. And I'd I'd I'd like to see, you know, let's go ahead and, you know, show receipts, get them reimbursed for the work that was done. And, you know, I think part of the um [0:28:08, 0:28:27]: clarification of the facade grant procedures would be at what point could he could a business owner resubmit for an additional grant if say he does paint the sign at a later time or do something else as far as a facade grant. I don't know whether we're really clear on at what point can [0:28:28, 0:28:48]: you'd be eligible for yet another facade grant sometime later. And isn't the isn't the um the striping a part of this original facade grant? I don't understand why he would have to request another one. Well it didn't get done. You know, I'm I it's been over two years. But the reason [0:28:48, 0:28:55]: It wasn't done was because of the slowdown with regard to the fees, from what I understand. So now that council has voted. [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: For the fees to be waived. [0:28:57, 0:29:05]: Maybe he needs to be um spoken with again to say, hey, there are no fees associated with this. Go on and paint your striping. [0:29:06, 0:29:07]: I'll I'll definitely say that [0:29:07, 0:29:09]: That signage. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: Is like [0:29:10, 0:29:11]: One of the main [0:29:12, 0:29:14]: uh features of that [0:29:15, 0:29:19]: That facade being, you know, redone. Yeah. Right. [0:29:20, 0:29:30]: I agree. It was very attractive in its per in the mock up. Yes. Well I'll I'll definitely and whoever would like to, you know, go with me, I'll definitely go by the Fletchers this week. [0:29:30, 0:29:31]: А то спеквит. [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: Uh because like like I said that [0:29:34, 0:29:36]: That signage, it was beautiful, and that's the type of [0:29:37, 0:29:39]: signage that we would want in that area. [0:29:39, 0:29:46]: Um and then it through the breeze way. Uh so I'll definitely go by there this week to talk to them about it. [0:29:47, 0:29:50]: to the whole look and feel of the building and that corner. So [0:29:51, 0:29:54]: I would like for him to be encouraged to go on and [0:29:54, 0:29:56]: Paint it so that [0:29:56, 0:30:02]: But I think asking him to do another process would just totally turn him off. [0:30:02, 0:30:08]: Well, I mean some I'm guessing at that, but I'm thinking that that probably would not be ideal. [0:30:08, 0:30:15]: I I I I hear you and I agree with you. I just I'm concerned that he may be unwilling to [0:30:17, 0:30:21]: put out more money into the project when there's already been [0:30:23, 0:30:43]: whatever perception of hassle for what he felt he was promised to begin with. So that that's why I was kind of thinking, well, can we just bring what he's done to a close and um, you know, put it back on him. But, you know, either way is fine. Um, I just I really would like to bring this to to some form of closure. [0:30:42, 0:30:51]: Ideally with the with the sine mural painted is is the best option. Yes, I agree, but that's assuming he's willing to do that. [0:30:52, 0:30:52]: Okay. [0:30:54, 0:31:00]: I'll definitely bring back an update on and I'll do it before the meeting, but especially for the next meeting also. [0:31:01, 0:31:01]: Great. [0:31:02, 0:31:12]: Okay, well thank you for that. All right. Uh anything uh we'll move on to the next item. So city staff updates. Uh Mr. Peterson. Thanks for uh thanks for joining. [0:31:13, 0:31:17]: Oh no problem. Um good evening everyone. Uh my update [0:31:18, 0:31:24]: Is about the business recruitment and retention committee. Uh we had our first meeting on [0:31:24, 0:31:34]: the fourth of October that was the first Monday of this month. We meet again on Monday, November the first at six o'clock. Um we discussed [0:31:34, 0:31:39]: Uh a lot of things and I emailed the notes to the committee members. [0:31:39, 0:31:50]: Uh so next meeting, uh hopefully we have some suggestions and some follow-ups to those notes that are in in red. But um the meeting went well and I look forward to working with [0:31:50, 0:31:51]: with the committee. [0:31:56, 0:31:59]: All right. Anything anything else, uh, Alan for the group? [0:32:00, 0:32:03]: Uh that that's about it for right now. Just the BRR report. [0:32:04, 0:32:04]: Okay. [0:32:05, 0:32:22]: Um I did I did have a chance to review the notes and I have a couple of uh comments or questions. Um the under um section five C acquire marketing data. There's a note there that marketing data will marketing data will be acquired through the DDA marketing plan. Is that [0:32:23, 0:32:30]: Was that accurate? Uh I because I'm not familiar that there's any effort on the DDA's part to develop a marketing plan. [0:32:30, 0:32:36]: Well i it was it was it was the marketing plan that goes along with the that master plan. [0:32:37, 0:32:39]: That's what I was referring to. [0:32:40, 0:32:49]: Um but if um Oh the the the market study. Okay. I got you. The market study, yeah. The the market study is what I'm gonna do. [0:32:49, 0:33:04]: All right. Um let's see. And then what to under additional tasks. There's two two questions under there that I had there. It says request for information, but I wasn't clear what the RFI would be for. [0:33:05, 0:33:22]: Uh the RFI is is for investors. I usually when they look at a community, they request um RFI and in that we'll just have information about the community, incentives, and things of that nature. So I I think everyone's involved in that task. Is that correct? It should be uh DDA. [0:33:23, 0:33:35]: Um well the committee, economic development and community development. Community development is there because they play a huge part in the incentives. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: So in the RFI. [0:33:38, 0:33:39]: In the RFI. [0:33:40, 0:33:40]: Um [0:33:41, 0:33:46]: A large part is is the incentives that we offer to attract to attract investors. [0:33:47, 0:34:03]: Okay, so what and just to make sure I understand it correctly, this would be a request for information that would be posted by the potential investors requesting information of the city, mainstream and DDA to respond. We're the respondents. [0:34:03, 0:34:14]: Yeah, we we would we would we would provide it. I'm gonna send a template similar to the way I did for the business recruitment and retention program. Yes. Yeah. I I'm gonna I'm gonna work on a template. [0:34:14, 0:34:17]: for the RFI. So um [0:34:18, 0:34:20]: So we'll have a better understanding and I'll have that. [0:34:21, 0:34:21]: At the next meeting. [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: That's great. [0:34:23, 0:34:28]: Mm-hmm. And the last just I didn't understand the acronym B R E program. What does that say for? [0:34:29, 0:34:30]: Business recruitment in [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: And uh [0:34:32, 0:34:33]: Business recruitment and retention. [0:34:33, 0:34:35]: Okay. The R R program. [0:34:39, 0:34:50]: Or did I put the BRE program? It says BRE and I I wasn't I didn't uh I wasn't sure what that okay business recruitment and expansion. And I sent yeah, I sent that template. [0:34:51, 0:34:54]: Uh with the with the agenda and all the documents. [0:34:56, 0:34:56]: Right. [0:34:57, 0:35:01]: So if if if you all could if the committee could review that and [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: I'm I'm taking all suggestions pertaining to that program. [0:35:05, 0:35:06]: And we'll discuss that again. [0:35:07, 0:35:08]: At the [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: At the uh November first meeting. [0:35:11, 0:35:15]: All right. So we'll we have that template and I'll provide an RFI template as well. [0:35:17, 0:35:21]: Excellent. Anyone else have comments or questions for Alan? [0:35:23, 0:35:43]: All right, we'll move on to uh uh council McGantt is not um uh present, so we'll move on to the there's no new business to discuss on the agenda. So uh old business, uh downtown strategic work plan. Uh Alan mentioned uh one of the committee assignments. Uh I also [0:35:43, 0:36:03]: So uh was I'm leading the uh Tourism Development Committee and we did meet uh late in September. And basically we just kind of introduced the committee, the tasks that were associated with it, and established the committee. So there's not a lot to report there other than the fact that we've met, we've established the committee, and then we [0:36:03, 0:36:23]: We we shared the task and I've asked for feedback from the committee as far as uh who the appropriate assignees are for each of the tasks and appropriate timelines. So I'll probably have more substantive to report in our next meeting regarding that. Um any any comments or questions on any of the committees? And I know, Kiri, you've you've scheduled the [0:36:23, 0:36:43]: the ones that you're leading as well for starting a number. Yes, and I just wanted to um just comment that Main Street staff has been just extremely busy in September and turns out in October as well. So we were unable to host our work plan committees that we are um lead um designated [0:36:42, 0:36:52]: lead on. So um we weren't able to host those as we had hoped in the month of October. But new dates um have been sent out to [0:36:52, 0:37:03]: um to committee members as you've mentioned. Um but just wanted to say that downtown connectivity and design has been scheduled for November 2nd for our first meeting at 6 p.m. [0:37:04, 0:37:12]: And then the downtown beautification and activation um meeting is gonna be on a Wednesday, November the 10th. [0:37:12, 0:37:25]: And again, I've sent those um meeting invitations out to those people who have signed up for those particular committees. And I'm looking forward to meeting, going over our task list. [0:37:25, 0:37:30]: And um getting feedback. So I'll be able to report something at our next meeting, hopefully. [0:37:31, 0:37:31]: Right. [0:37:31, 0:37:47]: And and I'm I'll go ahead and mention, and this goes for I think all of the committees, um, we're you know, each of the bo e uh every one of the uh Main Street NDDA members were asked to um, you know, participate in at least one of the committees. But I I do wanna say [0:37:48, 0:37:58]: All the committees are open to anyone who wishes to participate or to attend. I think the only caveat I would throw in there would be to um [0:37:58, 0:38:01]: uh just if it's going to cause a quorum. [0:38:02, 0:38:22]: for either the DDA or the Main Street just to you know be careful because then it becomes subject to open records laws and we would have to you know uh publish the meet you know do all that stuff so um but if any of you are interested in another committee and just uh hearing or participating uh in something other than the one you were assigned contact myself [0:38:21, 0:38:24]: Kira or Alan and we'll be happy to include you. [0:38:27, 0:38:47]: All right. Um I have uh administrative zoo zoom storage increase as the next item. Um just basically we've increased our zoom storage for this uh service here. We had um it it kind of doubled the cost, which I was a little frustrated with, but because we only have one meeting a month, but okay. [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: That's that's that was this the that was their price point. That's how they get the people, I guess. But um so that's been done and um and we'll take care of that. But um the next item, and so thank you to the board for uh uh supporting that uh expense. So the um main item I wanted to touch on today for everyone's uh vote. [0:39:06, 0:39:26]: And approval is the uh updated DDA bylaws. So uh special thanks to Samequa and Bob and our attorney who has helped us. We've met uh uh several times to go over the existing bylaws and sort of uh weed through the areas that um we felt needed update. Uh a lot of this was spotted. [0:39:26, 0:39:46]: respond by the um there was a requirement in the uh current in our current set of bylaws that um that we had to um uh name a recording secretary, but then it wasn't clear as to whether that recording secretary is or is not a board member or whether that role could be served by the existing [0:39:46, 0:39:58]: voted secretary. So it was very ambiguous. And that's what kind of caused us to look at the bylaws and then clean up some of the other language. So um I've shared the um [0:39:58, 0:40:18]: the the uh the draft, the proposed draft with uh everyone on uh October the thirteenth. You should have received it via email. Uh I'm happy to share it on the screen and we can go through it line by line or we can just uh go directly to move to vote. Um I'll kind of open it up for general discussion if anyone has any preference on how to uh [0:40:18, 0:40:29]: proceed with approving uh consideration for approving the bylaws. Um any thoughts on that? This is the uh these are the these are the bylaws. There's a lot of legalese, obviously, but uh [0:40:30, 0:40:36]: Um any did any I but I guess I'll ask did everyone have the opportunity to review them and are there any questions? [0:40:37, 0:40:37]: Yeah. [0:40:41, 0:40:41]: No. [0:40:41, 0:40:46]: I think we can just vote on them since we've had two board members and our attorney. [0:40:47, 0:40:54]: Um and and had a few days to look at it ourselves, I'll be okay with just voting on it instead of going line by line. [0:40:54, 0:40:54]: All right. [0:40:56, 0:41:00]: Does anyone need more time to review it? I'll I guess ask the question that way. [0:41:01, 0:41:03]: I know we all have other commitments and [0:41:05, 0:41:21]: Okay, not hearing any, then uh I'll go ahead and make the motion that we adopt the uh revised uh DDA bylaws um as presented and shared with the uh group on um the that was sent to the group uh to the DDA board on October the thirteenth. [0:41:24, 0:41:25]: A second. [0:41:27, 0:41:30]: Roger barber second. [0:41:31, 0:41:36]: Any um any discussion or comments, questions from anyone? [0:41:40, 0:41:45]: Okay, hearing none, seeing none. Um looking for some equal. [0:41:46, 0:42:06]: Samik, were you still with us? I'm here, yes. Oh, good. I didn't sorry. I didn't see you on the list for a second. Uh all right. So we will uh we will do this by uh by vote. So all those in favor of adopting the revised uh bylaws, please uh raise your hand in approval. Yes. And I hear yes from Samik. [0:42:06, 0:42:11]: Equa and I see uh art barbas and my hand. Um [0:42:11, 0:42:31]: Bob, are you still with us? Yes. Okay. And Bob is yes. All right. So we have a unanimous approval. Thank you all for your support on that. And thank you again to the uh committee, uh Samiquan Bob, for all the work that you did on that. That's um, I think it's a much cleaner outcome. And that is the last item on the agenda. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: agenda for today. I'll open it up for general discussions or questions from anyone. [0:42:39, 0:42:43]: Has anybody heard anything about how the the restaurant is going? [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: I have not said. [0:42:48, 0:42:55]: Has uh I don't know Alan if you or or even Kira if you would hear anything from the Sylvain project. [0:42:59, 0:43:01]: I have not heard anything. [0:43:01, 0:43:01]: Yeah. [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: I know the city is still using it as storage. [0:43:07, 0:43:11]: Which you know, I found odd they don't own the property anymore. [0:43:13, 0:43:17]: I s I saw some activity. I don't think that they're supposed to be. [0:43:17, 0:43:22]: I think that um there were some things put in there unbeknownst to [0:43:22, 0:43:23]: Um [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: I guess the [0:43:25, 0:43:27]: City manager who had the [0:43:28, 0:43:30]: The space cleaned out prior. [0:43:30, 0:43:38]: Um, to them taking possession of the building. I think some things were put in there, thinking that it was still okay to put stuff in there. [0:43:38, 0:43:39]: All right. [0:43:39, 0:43:57]: I think I noticed activity it was w the day of the amphitheater, the day before, day after. It was right around their the grand opening of the amphitheater. I noticed the, you know, the door was open and they were getting stuff in and I was like, okay, that's city staff. That's not their property anymore. [0:43:57, 0:44:04]: Yeah, that that was observed and I think it's been um mentioned. So hopefully they're taking some action with that. [0:44:06, 0:44:08]: [2650.0, 2664.5]: Maybe the new owner needs to change the locks. But all right. No, I'd rather like I'd rather see, you know, obviously something go up there. But uh yeah, I come bob, thank you for asking that. I had the same question. Yeah, I'm just now that we have got the amphitheater open and so I'm I'm you know, um [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: Anxious to see that uh completed. [0:44:28, 0:44:29]: That's right. Restaurant. [0:44:30, 0:44:35]: I think we all are. Any other questions or comments before we close? [0:44:38, 0:44:45]: Okay, seeing none seeing none and hearing none, I will um I'll go ahead and make the motion to adjourn the meeting. Um [0:44:45, 0:44:46]: Anyone want a second? [0:44:47, 0:45:07]: Second. Okay. That was I heard it from Bob first. Bob second. Roger motion. All right. All those in favor, raise your hand. And I hear a yes from Samequa. All right. We are closing the meeting at 646 PM. Thank you all for your time and your service to the city. [0:45:07, 0:45:13]: Have a great evening. Bye-bye. You too, boy. Thank you. Good night, everyone. Good night. Thank you. Good night. [0:45:14, 0:45:15]: Good night.

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[0:04:38, 0:04:40]: [290.3, 291.8]: [0:05:42, 0:05:49]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six p.m. We're gonna get this uh council meeting started. This is the council meeting for Monday, October. [0:05:49, 0:05:52]: Eleven of twenty twenty one, which is Columbus Day, by the way. [0:05:53, 0:05:58]: So on that uh note, uh Ms. Gantt, invocation, please. [0:06:00, 0:06:02]: Let us buy our heads in prayer. [0:06:03, 0:06:15]: Father, we are so grateful to be living in a democracy where many play a part in making sure the needs and desires of this nation's citizens are heard and met. [0:06:15, 0:06:27]: As our leaders work together to find solutions to difficult problems, we ask that you guide them to speak respectfully and with humility to one another. [0:06:27, 0:06:30]: Гелден шоу Christ like love. [0:06:30, 0:06:32]: To those they interact with. [0:06:32, 0:06:36]: And be an advocate for their constituents and others. [0:06:37, 0:06:42]: These and other things we these and other blessings we pray in your name. Amen. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Amen. [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Uh please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: Okay. [0:06:47, 0:06:47]: [409.3, 419.3]: As allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic which stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:07:01, 0:07:03]: Madam Clerk, we'll call it. [0:07:05, 0:07:06]: Mayor Ford? [0:07:06, 0:07:07]: Present. [0:07:07, 0:07:09]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:07:09, 0:07:10]: Present. [0:07:10, 0:07:11]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:07:12, 0:07:12]: Present. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Councilman Blount. [0:07:17, 0:07:21]: Let the record replay, Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:07:22, 0:07:23]: Present. [0:07:23, 0:07:24]: Councilman Thomas. [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: Present. [0:07:25, 0:07:28]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate it. [0:07:29, 0:07:31]: Uh I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:07:34, 0:07:36]: Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: I'd like to amend the agenda. [0:07:38, 0:07:38]: Okay. [0:07:39, 0:07:42]: I'd like to amend the agenda to add Mr. [0:07:42, 0:07:45]: Um Michael Harris our tax commissioner. [0:07:46, 0:07:52]: Okay. Is there a second to that? I second. Mr. Thomas, Mr. Thomas, second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:07:54, 0:08:00]: Okay, okay, Mr. Blount, you're online. Did you you affirm? [0:08:03, 0:08:03]: Mr. Blount? [0:08:05, 0:08:10]: Mayor, I didn't even I didn't even hear what was what am I f um apprentice. [0:08:10, 0:08:15]: Okay, we're adding we're adding to the agenda a briefing by our tax collector, Mr. Harris. [0:08:17, 0:08:18]: Task Commissioner. [0:08:19, 0:08:30]: Tax gov tax commissioner, excuse me. It does collect taxes though, but commissioners is properly excuse, Mr. Harris. I know you hear me. I'm sorry, sir. All right. Ms. Blount, is that yeah, is that a yay or a nay? Or are you abstain? [0:08:31, 0:08:51]: Excuse me. Okay. So make it unanimous. Okay. Okay. Now, what I also like to mention to you is that for a we have public hearing, there's a rezoning case, RZ 2021-1. The actual applicant uh would want to defer this uh until next month. And now Ms. Johnson is online and believe the applicant's online as well, but they wanted [0:08:51, 0:08:56]: prefer that they want to have additional information or different commerce tip additional conversations. [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: uh say with the community before they come before the council. [0:08:59, 0:09:01]: Is that correct, Miss Johnson? [0:09:02, 0:09:19]: Yes, uh yes, sir, mayor, that is correct. The applicant would request a deferral to the November 8th council meeting so that they have time to talk more with the community and some other neighboring property owners regarding the rezoning and with staff as well. [0:09:19, 0:09:26]: Okay. So council, I need a motion uh to accept that uh removal for the time being until next month. [0:09:26, 0:09:29]: So move. Okay, Mr. Dalzan, so move is there a second. [0:09:29, 0:09:33]: A second. Okay. Mr. Thomas, thank you very much. So all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:35, 0:09:38]: Okay, fantastic. I think that is unanimous. And that I okay now. [0:09:39, 0:09:42]: On that case, that'll come off. Now I need a motion to accept the overall agenda, please. [0:09:44, 0:09:45]: A moved. Okay, they're a second. [0:09:47, 0:09:49]: Ms. Barber Second's that all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:51, 0:10:07]: Okay, that's unanimous as well. Okay. Thank you very much. On that note, uh motion to approve the minutes. You have the minutes from the August 16th council meeting and also the minutes from the August 31st council work session. Unless there are any changes or any motion to accept those minutes into the record. [0:10:08, 0:10:09]: Oh no. [0:10:10, 0:10:13]: Barber, so move, second. Is there a second? Second. [0:10:14, 0:10:18]: I got you, Miss Barbers. Second. Second. Mayor Pro Tem, I think, spoke up for a second. [0:10:18, 0:10:20]: Any discussion? Yeah. [0:10:20, 0:10:22]: Oh Ms. I got you, Mayor Pro Tem, you got the second, sir. [0:10:23, 0:10:25]: Okay. All favor, please indicate. [0:10:25, 0:10:26]: Of the motion. [0:10:27, 0:10:32]: Okay, I see a unanimous as well again. Okay, good deal. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay. Um [0:10:33, 0:10:37]: Ms. Holliday, uh we have any public comments at all? There are no public comments, Mayor. [0:10:37, 0:10:38]: Okay. [0:10:38, 0:10:43]: Well, on that note, then we'll go on a ceremonial session. I have four proclamations, ladies and gentlemen. [0:10:43, 0:10:49]: And for uh individuals to receive these proclamations. So bear with us. Oh, by the way, I'm sorry, excuse me for a second. I just remember something. [0:10:50, 0:10:57]: Mr. Harris, we added you to the agenda. We're going to have you come on after the fourth proclamation. That's early enough in the program. We got a long agenda tonight. [0:10:58, 0:11:13]: So we'll have you come after that fourth proclamation and um and also Chief Tremors online if need be, if you need to speak or be addressing anything at this time as well. Okay, on that note, I will read the first proclamation, which actually deals with National Hispanic Heritage Month. [0:11:13, 0:11:16]: which is actually September 15th to October 15th. [0:11:17, 0:11:22]: Whereas in the earliest days of our Republic, Hispanic Americans have written crucial chapters in our nation's history. [0:11:23, 0:11:29]: including defense of our country, business ownership, teaching, and pioneer science excuse me, scientific. [0:11:29, 0:11:38]: And technological breakthroughs, and whereas Hispanic Americans represent an array of distinct and vibrant cultures which enrich communities in valuable ways. [0:11:38, 0:11:45]: Whereas Hispanic Americans embrace the promise of the United States that a better life should await anyone willing to work for it. [0:11:45, 0:11:49]: And the love of liberty and justice that this country promises to all. [0:11:49, 0:12:03]: Whereas the observation began as Hispanic Heritage Week in 1968 under President Lyndon Johnson. Twenty years later, President Ronald Reagan expanded the celebration cover a 30-day period between September 15th and October 15th. [0:12:03, 0:12:11]: September 15th is significant because of its anniversary of independence of Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua. [0:12:11, 0:12:15]: Mexico and Chile celebrate their independence days on September 16th. [0:12:15, 0:12:17]: And September eighteenth, respectively. [0:12:17, 0:12:27]: The United States Congress has passed public law one hundred-four oh two as amended, which authorizes and requests that the president issue an annual proclamation designating September 15th. [0:12:27, 0:12:31]: through October 15th as National Hispanic Heritage Month in the United States. [0:12:31, 0:12:33]: Whereas this year's theme. [0:12:33, 0:12:36]: Uh Esperana, Esper Esperana. [0:12:36, 0:12:42]: If I pronounced it right, a celebration of Hispanic heritage and hope encourages us to reflect on the legacy of Hispanic people. [0:12:43, 0:12:48]: Who have influenced our nation's history and serve today as leaders in all aspects of our nation national life. [0:12:48, 0:12:53]: and from their Supreme Court and halls of Congress, boardrooms, and main streets across the United States of America. [0:12:54, 0:12:59]: Whereas the mayor and the city council of the city of Stockbridge wishes to show their support for the Hispanic community. [0:12:59, 0:13:05]: In the city throughout and throughout the United States by acknowledging National Hispanic Heritage Month in the city of Stockbridge. [0:13:05, 0:13:13]: Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, mayor of Stockbridge, Georgia, along with the council members Elton Alexander, Elanda Barber, John Blount, and Keisha Gantt. [0:13:13, 0:13:27]: And Founders of Thomas do hereby proclaim October 11th, 2021 as Hispanic Heritage Celebration Day and the Great Day of City Stockbridge, Georgia. And I signed this on the 11th of uh day of October, and along with Vanessa Holiday, a clerk. [0:13:28, 0:13:32]: And uh and to receive this, Gabrielo Torres di Amenda. [0:13:33, 0:13:36]: If I pronounce that right, uh ma'am, you have any comments or questions or [0:13:37, 0:13:38]: Or acknowledgments that you want to make. [0:13:38, 0:13:46]: And uh let me ask you this, could you please uh also the theme of this year, could you pronounce it properly so I can understand what the proper pronunciation is? [0:13:47, 0:13:56]: for uh what are what are what did you ask me to pronounce yeah it says it says the year's this year's theme Esperanza I guess it's called [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: Esperanza і mienzhop. [0:13:59, 0:14:16]: Okay, there you go. And Pro Temp Alexander and Ariel Shaw who have been amazing help um in our business at Bobo Bouti and just really I'm really honored for this um [0:14:17, 0:14:20]: uh proclamation that you have given our [0:14:20, 0:14:37]: company and um I'm really thankful. Thank you so much for the city of Stockbridge that has helped our business grow through difficult times uh like COVID and uh trying to get back like we were before COVID. But thank you so much for this. It's an honor for to me. [0:14:37, 0:14:51]: You're welcome. And what I need to do is sometime when within the next week or two, hopefully sooner than later, I'll make a point to have the not only the clerk put this in a frame, but make a point to but deliver this to you in person so you can have this in framed, okay? [0:14:51, 0:15:00]: Oh, that sounds great. Sounds lovely. Thank you. No problem. Congratulations. Absolutely. Absolutely. You can stay, stay as long as you like, by the way, as well. Okay. [0:15:00, 0:15:20]: All right. Um next I have now is a proclamation dealing with the domestic violence awareness month, which is October. And I'll make a point to sometime at hopefully I remember this on Thursday. Screw me back up in the end of the month, which will be our uh work session on Tuesday. I'll make sure I wear purple versus when I'm trying to have on pink, but I'll have to wear purple uh the next meeting, okay? [0:15:20, 0:15:20]: Yeah. [0:15:20, 0:15:21]: Now [0:15:21, 0:15:25]: Whereas far far too long, domestic violence was considered a family issue. [0:15:26, 0:15:37]: And was left for families to address in private. Today we recognize the important roles of public and private sectors, nonprofit organizations, communities, and individuals in helping to prevent and address domestic violence. [0:15:37, 0:15:40]: And create a culture that refuses to tolerate abuse. [0:15:41, 0:15:43]: Whereas during National Domestic Violence Awareness Month. [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: There is an opportunity to deepen our understanding of these issues. [0:15:47, 0:15:56]: share resources and most importantly, support survivors. It takes courage for the survivor of sexual assault or domestic violence to share the story with anyone. [0:15:57, 0:16:01]: Never underestimate the power to affect the course of a survivor's healing journey. [0:16:02, 0:16:07]: Whereas during COVID nineteen pandemic domestic violence has become a pandemic within a pandemic. [0:16:07, 0:16:11]: With many victims facing the added pressures of increased economic insecurity. [0:16:12, 0:16:29]: increased time in isolation with their abusers and limited contact with their support networks. This has made it even more difficult for victims to assess the life-saving services and support they need to streeten our to strengthen our response to domestic violence in all forms and gender-based violence. [0:16:30, 0:16:45]: My American Rescue Plan allocated an additional$450 million to increase support for domestic violence and sexual assault services providers and to further assist survivors in the short and long-term transition away from the abusers. [0:16:45, 0:16:50]: And whereas this month we recommit to standing with survivors of domestic violence. [0:16:50, 0:17:10]: And to do and to doing our utmost to extend hope and healing to all we need, all who need it, excuse me. If you or someone you know needs assistance, we encourage you to reach out to the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-SAFE. Once again, 1-800-799-SaVICE. [0:17:10, 0:17:11]: seven nine nine save. [0:17:12, 0:17:21]: Or visiting www.thehotline.org. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ward, by virtual authority vested in me as a mayor of city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:17:21, 0:17:41]: And on behalf of Councilmembers Elton, Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeese Gantt and Afonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim October 2021 as National Domestic Violence Awareness Month. We call on all Americans to speak out against domestic violence and support local efforts to assist victims of these crimes in finding the [0:17:41, 0:17:42]: help and healing they need. [0:17:43, 0:17:53]: A witness whereof I have here here unto set my hand on the eleventh day of October, this year of our Lord of 2021. And I assign this along with our um [0:17:54, 0:17:55]: Clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:17:55, 0:18:05]: Okay. And Christy Tucker, Sims, ma'am, please comments that you have in reference to re us receiving giving this a proclamation to you. [0:18:05, 0:18:10]: First of all, thank you, Mayor Ford. Thank you, Councilman Alexander. Um [0:18:10, 0:18:30]: all of the council members, constituents, and friends for this honor, for this proclamation. Um, being acknowledged as as both a survivor and an advocate is sometimes the fuel that we need to keep going. So I don't take this lightly. It isn't my honor and my pleasure to accept this on behalf of my team, um, my supporters and the Christie [0:18:30, 0:18:50]: Sims Foundation. Thank you so much to the city of Starkbridge for your continued support, for your continued um support of what we do. Thank you so much. More than welcome once again. Congratulations. Once again, uh we'll coordinate with you, uh working through the clerk there to have seven appointment to also have this frame and present this to you in person. Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. [0:18:50, 0:18:52]: Or and more work to say is not. [0:18:53, 0:19:06]: Thank you. I'll I'll be here a few more minutes. I need to have another meeting. I need to sign out in about about 15 minutes. Okay. Good deal. So be it. Thank you. The next proclamation is uh breast cancer awareness month for October. And that's why I have on pink tonight. [0:19:07, 0:19:11]: Once again, I need uh I obviously mentioned this publicly, I need to wear purple next time we get together. Okay. [0:19:12, 0:19:12]: Uh so [0:19:13, 0:19:14]: Whereas every year two [0:19:15, 0:19:19]: Many Americans are touched by the pain and hardship caused by breast cancer. [0:19:19, 0:19:27]: A disease that among women is not only one of the most common cancers, but also one of the leading causes of a cancer-related death. [0:19:27, 0:19:36]: And whereas during National Breast Cancer Awareness Month, we honor all those who lost their lives to breast cancer and we recognize the courageous survivors who are still fighting it. [0:19:37, 0:19:57]: Whereas for these individuals and for their loved ones who give their unwavering support during the most trying times, we recommit ourselves to the essential and necessary work for forging a future free from cancer in all its forms. And whereas hundreds and thousands of Americans will be diagnosed with breast cancer this year, the tens of thousands will lose their [0:19:57, 0:20:17]: Battle with the disease. Among both women and men can't have breast cancer, women are of higher risk. And whereas we encourage all women to find out if they are have increased risk and learn more about recommended screenings by speaking with their health care providers and by visiting www.cancer.gov/slash breast. Early detection and treatment. [0:20:17, 0:20:37]: Treatment can save lives. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vesting me as a mayor of city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of Council Members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Makisha Gantt, and Afonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim October 2021 as a National Breast Cancer Awareness Month in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia. We encourage citizens. [0:20:36, 0:20:48]: government agencies, businesses, nonprofit organizations, and all the all other interested groups to join in activities that will increase awareness of what Americans can do to prevent breast cancer and where witness whereof. [0:20:48, 0:20:52]: I have hereunto set my hand eleventh day of October, the year of our Lord. [0:20:52, 0:20:53]: Uh twenty [0:20:54, 0:21:07]: uh thousand twenty one. Uh signed this along with our uh clerk Vanessa holiday and uh Mildred Smelts, ma'am, we honor you and give you this to you as well. You have any comments, ma'am, at all and that you want to make it this time. [0:21:09, 0:21:10]: Thank you, Mayor, for [0:21:12, 0:21:19]: I wanna really thank the city of Stockbridge for standing with the courageous men and women. [0:21:19, 0:21:22]: Ув'ян діанос від брест канцер. [0:21:22, 0:21:25]: And honor those who have lost their lives. [0:21:26, 0:21:34]: Thank you so much, the city of Stockbridge, for standing with us. I'm a three-time breast cancer survivor. [0:21:35, 0:21:48]: And I really do appreciate and accept this proclamation on behalf of all of those who are still suffering and those who have lost their lives. Thank you, City of Stockbridge. [0:21:48, 0:22:01]: You're more than welcome. Thank you very much. Once again, I will coordinate along with the clerk to um make a meeting so I can present this to you in a frame uh sometime here shortly. Okay. And you once again, you're more than welcome to stay as long as you like. [0:22:01, 0:22:10]: All right. And for the fourth proclamation, and they're all equal proclamations. So I'm Michelle I'm sorry you're number four tonight, but someone had me four. Okay. [0:22:11, 0:22:13]: National Women's Small Business Month. [0:22:14, 0:22:18]: Whereas National Women's Small Business Month takes place each year during the month of October. [0:22:19, 0:22:28]: This is a time to recognize a marriage of activities of our country's female entrepreneurs and the positive impact they are making on jobs and the economy. [0:22:29, 0:22:49]: Whereas in October, Natural Women's Small Business Month highlights the benefits and industry women bring to communities when they own a small business. With over 11 million and growing women owning small businesses in the United States, there's plenty of opportunities to get involved. And whereas throughout the month, organizations, businesses, and aspiring entrepreneurs, [0:22:49, 0:23:08]: Share resources and advice that support women-owned businesses. Like any small business, the benefits to the community are enormous. Locally owned small businesses bring revenue to communities. Small companies are more likely to support local organizations, schools, and projects. They also provide a tremendous number of jobs, keeping local economies going and growing. [0:23:09, 0:23:29]: Whereas when you include women in small business businesses factor, you increase business diversity. When women are see other women still succeeding, they are motivated to secede. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, Mayor City Stockbridge, Georgia, along with council members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, John Blount, Lakeese Gannon and Alfonso Thomas to hereby proclaim October. [0:23:29, 0:23:47]: as National Women's Small Business Month, the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the 11th day of October of the year our Lord 2021. And I assigned this along with our click Vanessa Holiday. Ms. Shaw, please. Thank you. Congratulations. [0:23:48, 0:24:08]: Thank you. Um, and I, Ariel Shaw, president and founder of Southern Crescent Women in Business, accept this proclamation recognizing October as National Women's Small Business Month. There are between nine point nine million and thirteen million women owned businesses in the United States of America with an impact of one four. [0:24:08, 0:24:12]: point eight trillion dollars to the US economy. [0:24:12, 0:24:32]: While women-owned businesses are starting at the fastest rate, there is so much more work to do as it relates to funding women-owned businesses. We recognize that without proper funding and the ability to grow our workforce, scaling our businesses becomes much more difficult. Thank you, Mayor Anthony Ford, and all countries. [0:24:32, 0:24:41]: Council for honoring and recognizing women-owned businesses in the city of Stockbridge, in the Southern Crescent, and nationwide. [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: Thank you. [0:24:43, 0:24:57]: Thank you. Thank you very much. My same thing with you, ma'am. I will work with the clerk to uh meet with you sometime and give you a frame uh proclamation here, here within the next week or so. Okay. And you also are warned and welcome to stay as long as you like. [0:24:57, 0:24:58]: Thank you. [0:24:58, 0:25:00]: And then [0:25:00, 0:25:01]: Yes, sir. [0:25:01, 0:25:05]: Yeah, if you would, I like to take the temperature of the council. [0:25:05, 0:25:08]: These proclamations are so powerful. [0:25:08, 0:25:10]: Every single month. [0:25:10, 0:25:11]: We read them. [0:25:12, 0:25:16]: I would like for our social media department to air. [0:25:16, 0:25:36]: These proclamations that you read on our social media every single month. So these individuals can just not get recognition here that they will be shared on our social media page uh continually, just getting the attention that they need, not with the rest of the meeting, but just by the [0:25:36, 0:25:45]: themselves every single month. Because we have so many outstanding citizens that we need to recognize. I just like you would be reading this portion. [0:25:45, 0:25:54]: So where you start reading the proclamations from beginning to end with air on our social media site as a separate clip every month going forward. [0:25:55, 0:26:10]: All right, we'll take that on advisement without a doubt. I'm gonna talk to the public uh information officer about that as well. We look forward to that recommendation falling through. On that note, uh all the proclamations are read for this evening and we'll move on. And the next item would be Mr. Harris, our tax commissioner. [0:26:11, 0:26:13]: Not collector, but commissioner. [0:26:13, 0:26:19]: Mr. Harris, please. Good evening. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:26:21, 0:26:31]: I was contacted by your treasurer, Mr. Wiggins, um about a week or so ago and about the potential tax implication should the city decide to. [0:26:32, 0:26:41]: um forego the current county police services and begin their own police department utilizing a three mil city tax. [0:26:42, 0:27:02]: In speaking with Mr. Wiggins, there's two key pieces of information he was looking for at the time. The estimated amount of taxes that will be generated from the implementation of three mills by the city, and also what the impact could have on the on a residential property. Um, I've provided him with that. Um [0:27:02, 0:27:14]: last week, but I think you know, at per the request of the council has to kind of come up and give a little bit more of an explanation and addressing the questions that you may have and that I'm at I'm able to answer at this time. [0:27:15, 0:27:18]: So just as a quick overview. [0:27:19, 0:27:39]: And again, these numbers are estimates because they're based on the current digest that was just recently approved by the state. But based on that, and in my understanding of the approach that the city's taking, the you know, on the current tax bill right now, there is a mill of 1.824 mils that [0:27:39, 0:27:43]: is in place for county police services. [0:27:44, 0:27:55]: Should the city determine and decide to forego the county services, that 1.824 mil would go away and would subsequently be replaced by a three mil city tax. [0:27:56, 0:28:00]: Now based on again, based on last year's digest, that [0:28:01, 0:28:10]: Three mil would generate approximately three million one hundred and seventy-one dollars in um levy taxes for the year. [0:28:11, 0:28:31]: Taking that number and that estimate, um, I wanted to go back through and just kind of again, the request was for what the impact on a residential property would be. So looking at a home valued at um 225,000. And the reason why I use the 225,000 is because based on the state, that is the average mean um value of a home. [0:28:31, 0:28:36]: in Henry County. It's their number. They they provide that every on an annual basis. [0:28:36, 0:28:42]: Um based on that and again taking a couple criteria points in in into play because again it would get too [0:28:42, 0:28:46]: confusion if we if we put everything in in in in into motion. [0:28:47, 0:28:52]: But looked at this at again a fair market value at two hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars. [0:28:52, 0:29:03]: No homestead on the property because again, not knowing the level of homesteading, I want to make sure we're doing a comparison of apples and apples. So no homestead on the property, no exemptions that's age or veterans. Um [0:29:05, 0:29:25]: What that would yield would be a um an increase of roughly$105.84 for the for that person's annual taxes. Again, obviously if you uh factor in things like homestead and and potential exemptions, that's gonna have a um a bit another [0:29:25, 0:29:30]: impact on that, but just trying to do a straight comparison and give everyone an idea of what that number can look like. [0:29:31, 0:29:51]: That's where it would be. Um the turn the current millage rate is 38.030. That's overall, that's including the school, which again, I just want to emphasize the school millage represents roughly 58 to 60 percent of the of the taxes that are paid. And that remainder um is [0:29:51, 0:29:54]: county county taxes that come in, county and water authority taxes. [0:29:55, 0:30:03]: Um if the city were to again forego the county police services that would eliminate the 1.824 mil. [0:30:04, 0:30:20]: That would add to 3.0 mil. And so the new millage rate in the city of Stockbridge would then be 39.206. And again, we estimate that would yield approximately an increase of$105.84. [0:30:21, 0:30:34]: So again, like I said, these were the first two pieces of information that I was asked to kind of look into and want to just kind of provide a just a high level overview of what those preliminary numbers look like. As I know there's been a lot of conversation amongst the mayor and council there. [0:30:35, 0:30:41]: So Mr Mr. Harris, that's$105.84 per household per year. Is that correct? [0:30:41, 0:30:58]: That's correct. Again, based on a home valued at 225,000 with no a with no homestead or no exemptions in place. So if the home was only 150,000, it would be less than$105, I would imagine. That's correct. Okay. Thank you very much. Uh questions, council. [0:30:59, 0:31:00]: Ms. Barber, go ahead. [0:31:01, 0:31:05]: I do. Thank you, Mr. Harris. Um so [0:31:06, 0:31:10]: This thirty-one point two oh six that includes [0:31:10, 0:31:12]: All of the taxes. [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: Including school [0:31:15, 0:31:21]: Um public safety and everything else that the county provides for us. Is that correct? Where did he go? [0:31:22, 0:31:26]: He's he's here. He's still here. Yeah, I'm right here. Yeah. Oh, okay. I see you now. You go anywhere. [0:31:27, 0:31:27]: Not now. So [0:31:28, 0:31:31]: I'm sorry, you're saying so your question is [0:31:31, 0:31:34]: The thirty one point one seven one milyen. [0:31:35, 0:31:37]: No, you said thirty-nine point two oh six. [0:31:38, 0:31:58]: 39.206 is simply the millage rate. That would be the new rate for the um for the for the county. Right now, and that that means that includes the 20 mills that comes from the school board, three plus mills for the school board, um, school bond, two mills from the water authority, and then your remainder amount. [0:31:58, 0:32:07]: from the uh for county services. Okay, one follow-up question. Yes. So we only want to um look at specifically [0:32:07, 0:32:10]: Вот виблік safety. [0:32:10, 0:32:19]: Correct. Can you once again tell me out of that 39.206, how much of that is for police services? [0:32:20, 0:32:28]: Well, the thirty-nine point two oh six would be the new rate should the council um decide to [0:32:29, 0:32:49]: Forego the county services, which would remove again what you're paying right now and what you played last year in police services equated to roughly$1.928 million. Okay. And that was based on the 1.824 millage rate. Should the county decide to forego the county services, [0:32:49, 0:32:51]: That one point eight two four would go away. [0:32:51, 0:32:57]: And it would subsequently be replaced by the three mils, which would generate again, approximately 3.1 million. [0:32:57, 0:33:00]: Gotcha. Thank you very much. You're welcome. [0:33:00, 0:33:02]: Okay, Miss Ken, go ahead, please. [0:33:02, 0:33:09]: Thank you. Um, Mr. Harris, uh you said that it's gonna be three mils, not three point five. Is that what you're estimating? [0:33:09, 0:33:19]: Yeah, that now's uh that's based on the number that was provided to me. And we could certainly run scenarios, different scenarios if you'd like, but this is the one that Mr. Wiggins provided for me at the time. So we just ran it based on that. [0:33:20, 0:33:29]: And if the three males, what does the city of McDonough, what is their millage rate for um fi for um public safety? [0:33:30, 0:33:35]: Um I don't know specifically for public safety. They don't so they so same thing, they don't have [0:33:35, 0:33:46]: They don't the 1.824 does not apply is not apply to City of McDonald residents be because they have their own police force. They do have so it'd be very similar. [0:33:46, 0:33:57]: This setup that you're proposing would be very similar to the setup in McDonough, where they do not have the 1.824, but they do have a city millage of roughly 3.6. [0:33:58, 0:34:00]: And that includes fire, correct? [0:34:00, 0:34:02]: Pardon? That includes fire. [0:34:02, 0:34:13]: Yeah, they also have their own fire services as well. So with a three with their millage rate, right at like a three point uh three point six, I was I thought ours is gonna be around three point five roughly. [0:34:14, 0:34:18]: Theirs includes fire and they had a rollback at 1.824. [0:34:19, 0:34:19]: Right. [0:34:20, 0:34:22]: Okay. And are you aware that [0:34:23, 0:34:25]: Um our financial advisor. [0:34:25, 0:34:34]: As well as our city manager and our treasurer had given us a financial statement. And I think they had in that statement, they talked about when they discussed with you. [0:34:34, 0:34:35]: That [0:34:36, 0:34:41]: They also stated we would have to do a three percent increase every year thereafter. [0:34:42, 0:34:57]: No, I hadn't heard that. Um I I'd read some of the reports in reference to the the report from the financial advisor, but I hadn't heard any any specifics in reference to um the long the on the ongoing implications of the cost, what the cost would be. [0:34:57, 0:35:05]: I think on June 7 at 2021 at 717 13 PM Eastern Standard Time. [0:35:05, 0:35:18]: Our um city manager did give us a financial projection about a state tax that we would I mean a city tax that we would have to have. And he also attached a financial document breaking down. So I I do want Mayor Council to be aware that. [0:35:19, 0:35:24]: Um the financial statement actually states that we will have a three percent increase every year. [0:35:24, 0:35:29]: And it also shows our fund balance going down by half in 2024. [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: So um [0:35:32, 0:35:35]: I appreciate you, Mr. Harris, for giving us that information. [0:35:35, 0:35:40]: I'm glad to see you by the way. Good to see y'all as well. Michelle. Yeah. Good to see you. [0:35:40, 0:35:41]: Um [0:35:41, 0:35:50]: And um thank you so much for updating us with that. Um I I really appreciate that. Um looking here at the 1.824 rollback. [0:35:51, 0:35:57]: And if that's the same, do does uh McDonna get a higher rollback than we do because they have fire? [0:35:58, 0:35:59]: Yeah. [0:36:00, 0:36:02]: I'd have to go back and look at uh exactly what the what [0:36:03, 0:36:03]: Yeah, yeah. [0:36:04, 0:36:05]: Because there's a [0:36:05, 0:36:09]: There's a separate agreement in place in reference to their fire because um [0:36:10, 0:36:25]: And I'm not sure how it's worked out between the county and the city. But again, we have some supplemental. Right. So there is a mill um associated for fire that the majority of the cities also have in place, which is 1.105, I believe it is. [0:36:25, 0:36:26]: Mm-hmm. [0:36:26, 0:36:32]: Um now again that would stay in place. So you'd have again, um last year we just we [0:36:32, 0:36:39]: The county opted to move forward with a break. They kind of took the the millage rate. The mill rate has not the county mill rate has not gone up. [0:36:40, 0:36:41]: But they simply [0:36:41, 0:36:51]: They simply broke it down to make it a little bit easier for people to understand and be able to see. So they broke down some select services, those being police at 1.824. [0:36:51, 0:37:05]: Um fire at 1.0 1.105, recreation at 0.685, and then um other county services for unincorporated areas at point three one three, I believe it is. [0:37:06, 0:37:24]: Thank you. So this financial projection that I got in June 3rd, 2021, and the other date that they sent the email, it actually states that I know you did yours off of three point three mils, but Mr. Knighton, as well as Ed Wall, our financial advisor, and rent um John Wiggins, our treasurer. [0:37:24, 0:37:44]: Actually states that the city's extra millage rate will be 3.5 mils. There will be a property tax will increase by 3% each year. Court revenues are projected at$750,000 per year. License and permits, charges for services to intergovernment and other revenues will remain constant and if [0:37:44, 0:38:04]: If no increases, fine and forfeitures will be restored prior to COVID, and interest earnings are low due to low interest rates, assumes the rates of investment of cash at 0.05%. And therefore, it goes on to show us from 2019 what our revenues. [0:38:04, 0:38:12]: Are and what our reserves are from our fund balance of 18 mil all the way down to 2027. [0:38:12, 0:38:14]: I mean twenty twenty four. [0:38:15, 0:38:16]: Of our loss. [0:38:17, 0:38:37]: profits there it looks like we would then have about in right now we have 20 well in 2018 we had about 26 months worth of reserves by 2024 we'll have um 11.4 and each year it goes down down down with the three percent increase every year so I [0:38:37, 0:38:41]: I I appreciate you giving us that tax information. [0:38:41, 0:38:48]: But this says 3.5 as well. And I'm sure that doesn't make a break us more than$20,$10 if that. [0:38:49, 0:38:53]: But I'm concerned about that three percent increase without our citizens having the input first. [0:38:54, 0:38:58]: All right, Ms. Thank you, Ms. Gamp. Appreciate that. Um Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:38:59, 0:39:08]: Thank you, Mayor. And uh Ms. Harris, I I thank you for coming and sharing this information. Um, I got a couple of questions, if I may. [0:39:09, 0:39:13]: Um the scenario that was just presented. [0:39:13, 0:39:15]: Uh it's based on [0:39:16, 0:39:19]: uh a po a police budget [0:39:19, 0:39:22]: A five point five mil. [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: a budget just for the um police department. [0:39:27, 0:39:30]: We control that. We control. [0:39:30, 0:39:31]: The budget. [0:39:31, 0:39:33]: for the police department. So [0:39:34, 0:39:38]: Uh would you say that is a a true fact and then therefore [0:39:38, 0:39:42]: The calculation is is a little different. Would you agree with that? [0:39:42, 0:39:44]: Well, what I'll say is [0:39:45, 0:39:56]: Again, typically jurisdictions, whether it's county or municipalities, they'll make a determination on what they what they want their mill rate to be based on their budget. First you establish your budget. [0:39:56, 0:39:57]: Um and then [0:39:58, 0:40:18]: working with you through your job digest, your mill rate will determine how much you need to generate and levy taxes in order to meet those budgetary um require budgetary needs. So typically your budget is established first and then from there you establish your mill rate to generate the the amount of um levy taxes in order to meet [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: meet meet your your expense needs. [0:40:20, 0:40:24]: And and and also the the number the [0:40:25, 0:40:25]: Uh [0:40:26, 0:40:29]: The the size of the police department. [0:40:29, 0:40:31]: Also um [0:40:31, 0:40:35]: determines um that calculation as well. Is that correct? [0:40:37, 0:40:45]: Yeah yeah, I mean as far as the specific and what goes into determining how you know the the the budget for the police station. [0:40:45, 0:40:46]: Um [0:40:46, 0:40:47]: Um [0:40:48, 0:40:57]: I'm not prepared to address that at all. I mean, I was just simply looking at it from a from a taxation standpoint. I you know, I think at the end of the day, and and my conversation with Mr. Wiggins were simply [0:40:57, 0:40:58]: Um [0:40:58, 0:41:04]: What number do you want to use as a as a plug for now? Again, this was a couple weeks ago. So if that number, if that proposed millage has changed. [0:41:04, 0:41:13]: Yeah, we could certainly go back and rerun the numbers, but it would typically be based on the establishment of the budget first and then you work and back your way into the um into your military. [0:41:14, 0:41:22]: Okay, I'm I'm gonna apologize for hypotheticals. That's okay. That's okay. Well, let me ask you this. Um [0:41:22, 0:41:25]: When it comes to um [0:41:25, 0:41:31]: seniors and exemption. So I know the figures that you just gave. [0:41:31, 0:41:34]: Did not include any exemptions. [0:41:34, 0:41:37]: So just from your [0:41:38, 0:41:40]: uh professional [0:41:40, 0:41:41]: Um [0:41:41, 0:41:45]: knowledge, if you will, about exemptions. [0:41:45, 0:41:47]: Would you say um [0:41:48, 0:41:50]: Мос о [0:41:51, 0:41:52]: Homeowners. [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: A mortgage on us. [0:41:55, 0:41:56]: There are some [0:41:57, 0:42:05]: exemption and and i'm i'm asking that to lead into for for the seniors and i know i i read also where [0:42:05, 0:42:08]: Uh seniors do have this exemption. [0:42:08, 0:42:10]: And and one fact being that [0:42:11, 0:42:12]: Um [0:42:12, 0:42:17]: They are excluded because uh they do not have. [0:42:17, 0:42:22]: uh school age children uh in in the system [0:42:22, 0:42:26]: So for the most part, uh I and I guess this is a question. [0:42:26, 0:42:28]: That without a doubt, uh, seniors. [0:42:29, 0:42:31]: We'll have some type of [0:42:32, 0:42:34]: of exemption and in in your opinion [0:42:35, 0:42:43]: Uh most property owners, or there's some type of exemption uh that goes along uh with with with their mortgage. [0:42:45, 0:43:05]: Yeah, for the majority of them. And we're always we're constantly working to make sure we get the word out to help educate our residents to make sure that they're realizing and utilizing all the available exemptions. The way the school board has it, it is there's a stepped approach where it begins at age 62, um, that exemption increases at 65. [0:43:05, 0:43:11]: five increases again at 68 and at age 70 they're no longer paying any any school taxes. [0:43:11, 0:43:13]: Now if the count if the city [0:43:14, 0:43:18]: In the it in the incorporation of their military also wants to include [0:43:19, 0:43:21]: And exemption, that would be a separate step. [0:43:21, 0:43:41]: Um that because you know those exemptions would apply to those to the school and the county taxes. Um if you want to do an exemption within this for the for specifically for the city tax, then that'd be have to be this determination made by the um by the city directly. But right now, those exemptions that are in play, those are in place for the um school. [0:43:41, 0:43:50]: school taxes and the um county taxes. So with the exception of veterans exception of veterans that that that can that also applies to the cities as well. [0:43:50, 0:43:55]: Okay, Mayor, last question. Yes, sir. So considering um [0:43:55, 0:43:59]: some type of exemption or some then [0:43:59, 0:44:01]: That calculation [0:44:01, 0:44:03]: changes and then I would imagine [0:44:03, 0:44:05]: Uh it decreases. [0:44:06, 0:44:07]: Is that correct? [0:44:08, 0:44:16]: Yeah, again, you know, incorporating exemptions is certainly going to have an impact on on individual on individual um tax bills. [0:44:17, 0:44:32]: The example I gave was again to try to run through every single scenario would be relatively almost impossible. So I want to just kind of give one word just kind of gave you know a higher case scenario where it's ex it's it's it's not taking any exemptions into okay into account. So [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: Um [0:44:34, 0:44:43]: Typically it would likely be, you know, your tax burden was like would be lightly slightly less because there are going to be some exemptions on your county and your and your um [0:44:44, 0:44:46]: and your school taxes, but that amount. [0:44:47, 0:44:52]: based on that difference from paying 1.82 mils to now paying three mils. [0:44:52, 0:45:03]: that would be fairly consistent at that one point oh one one point oh five because again there's not going to be any real exemptions applied to that for city taxes unless that's the city's choice. [0:45:03, 0:45:07]: With the exception of veterans, veterans apply across the board. [0:45:07, 0:45:13]: All right. Thank you, sir. Uh Mayor, I yield back. No problem. Thank you very much. Councilwoman Barber, you had your hand up next. [0:45:15, 0:45:24]: Wanted to ask um Mr. Harris. So as our tax base or our tax digests increase, um, we should expect that the [0:45:24, 0:45:28]: Millage rate or the amount that each home [0:45:28, 0:45:31]: Owner would be responsible for will decrease. [0:45:32, 0:45:33]: Based on [0:45:33, 0:45:40]: the estimate of a fair market value of a home with$225,000, correct? [0:45:41, 0:45:47]: Yeah, so I I can tell you what what's been happening over the last several years. Um [0:45:47, 0:45:50]: from a county's perspective while the [0:45:50, 0:45:53]: um values property values have increased. [0:45:54, 0:45:55]: Um [0:45:55, 0:45:58]: The tax rate has remained the same. [0:45:59, 0:46:07]: You know, the determination of how taxes are are calculated is simply the value or assessed value, which is forty percent of the fair market value. [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: Times that rate. [0:46:09, 0:46:11]: So with the rate remaining fixed. [0:46:11, 0:46:18]: The only reason why people have seen an increase in their tax bills because obviously the the value has gone up and increased. So you can [0:46:20, 0:46:40]: You can continue but so you can continue to, you know, as your as your value goes up, if that amount you want to re continue to keep that same tax rate, you certainly can and roll back that that that additional that it would generate. Um, and say, you know, you're not going to imply that and impose that and keep it at that same or roll back your. [0:46:40, 0:46:53]: your your millage rate, um again, that'd be the determination that the that the that the city can make. Okay. One follow-up question. So as more residents um come into the city. [0:46:53, 0:47:03]: Um what should they ex well, what should we expect as far as our millage rate? Um would that decrease? [0:47:04, 0:47:10]: based on the number of resident or number of homeowners and the values of their home. [0:47:11, 0:47:16]: Yes. So what it's tied to is your your digest, which which [0:47:16, 0:47:26]: speaks to um you know the value of all the property there in stockbridge. So as that value increases based on more people moving in. [0:47:27, 0:47:31]: The higher the value, if you want to keep one fixed number. [0:47:31, 0:47:51]: Okay. If that value increases, you you have the option of being able to reduce that rate in order to stay at that one fixed number. Or you keep the rate the same as your value increases, what it generates increases as well. So you can adjust that again. That's the millage rate itself is can be determined and set by the governing body. [0:47:51, 0:47:56]: In this case the city of Stockbridge. I guess what I'm asking about is the more [0:47:57, 0:47:57]: Um [0:47:59, 0:48:04]: The more businesses and more residents that enter into the city. [0:48:05, 0:48:09]: then our taxes or the millage rate should [0:48:09, 0:48:10]: decrease [0:48:11, 0:48:12]: Because you have a larger [0:48:13, 0:48:17]: Um, population of residents and businesses who are sharing in the cost. [0:48:18, 0:48:19]: Oh [0:48:20, 0:48:22]: The taxes. Correct. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: That's correct. Like I said. [0:48:25, 0:48:29]: The more businesses and the more homes that come into a jurisdiction. [0:48:30, 0:48:36]: the greater the value of the property is in that jurisdiction. So your your digest increases. [0:48:36, 0:48:45]: Okay. If you have a fixed number of well, we need this from again, like I said, you start with your budget number. If you're if that budget number remains fixed, [0:48:45, 0:49:05]: then then perhaps you can roll back because your value is going to be your value is going to be increased. So if your rate stays the same and your value increases, the amount of taxes levied will increase. If your value increases and you want to stay at that fixed number, then yes, you can adjust [0:49:05, 0:49:10]: Thus you can reduce your rate that remain at that same fixed number. That's an option. [0:49:12, 0:49:13]: Thank you. [0:49:13, 0:49:15]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:49:17, 0:49:19]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [0:49:19, 0:49:28]: Let me first of all before I uh Mr. Mr. Harris, thanks for coming. First of all, my pleasure. Just let me say this. Um the conversation being had now. [0:49:29, 0:49:31]: By the elective body should have been had. [0:49:31, 0:49:34]: uh months ago prior to getting to this point. [0:49:35, 0:49:38]: Let me let me just put something that are facts in place. [0:49:39, 0:49:49]: When you talk about an increase in our budget for a police department sustainability around one five point eight uh five five point eight million dollars, that's on the feasibility study. [0:49:50, 0:49:53]: When you look at now our financial advisor has already told us. [0:49:54, 0:49:57]: We're looking at one point something mil a million dollars. [0:49:57, 0:50:04]: on the twenty-five million dollars that's already been bonded. So you're already now over six, almost seven million dollars. [0:50:05, 0:50:09]: And when we talk about the decreases from the increases on projects. [0:50:10, 0:50:12]: We're not even calculating that. [0:50:13, 0:50:18]: We' we're we're talking millist rate and then we gotta talk about our budget. [0:50:19, 0:50:31]: How do you surplus a budget? Because you just told us it would bring in about$3 million. Now we're almost at seven. So the millage rate we're talking about now won't even cover the excess on that. [0:50:32, 0:50:52]: Let's get that clear. Now let's talk about services. Because we get a rollback from the county, that doesn't mean we still don't have to put in a service delivery SDS agreement with the county for extra service. We don't have a jail nor any detention centers or any other extra services that police provide. So there still has to be an agreement in place. [0:50:52, 0:51:01]: So services may not be taxed with a role because we get a rollback, but those increases in our budget would have to be put in place to pay for those services. [0:51:01, 0:51:07]: We're talking we're talking millions beyond taxes that's gonna decrease our budget. [0:51:08, 0:51:28]: Not so much see, we're getting so fixated on how much the tax is going to be because the tax rate that we're talking about is not going to cover the increase in the budget that's been put in place. And so when we talk about that three mil, that's not going to cover seven point or seven to eight million dollar increase in the budget. It's not going [0:51:28, 0:51:46]: Going to do that. And so when we sit here as elected, that's the elected body and we keep talking about this three million. Anytime you increase in houses, you increase in services. Anytime you increase in services, you decrease in budget, unless you have those bins that come in. [0:51:47, 0:51:51]: But the the bottom line, we're not just talking about taxes. [0:51:52, 0:52:12]: We have to talk about the increased budget. What are we going to do to cover that budget? And that has yet to be discussed. So we can talk apples and apples and uh apples, but we're talking oranges when it comes to the whole budget. We do not have a plan in place as a city of Stockbridge to cover$8 million increase in our budget. [0:52:12, 0:52:13]: That's a fact. [0:52:15, 0:52:17]: All right, uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [0:52:17, 0:52:21]: Uh let's let's see. This is what happens when you [0:52:21, 0:52:24]: Go through these hypothetical situations. [0:52:25, 0:52:35]: The real fact of the matter is nobody is going to know what a potential tax would be until the shief sits down and puts pencil to paper. [0:52:35, 0:52:38]: And tells us what the department is gonna look like. [0:52:39, 0:52:50]: How many officers is he going to require? And the total package. The exact reason that we hired the police chief was so he could come out and he could put the police department plan together. [0:52:51, 0:52:54]: The feasibility study was put together by [0:52:54, 0:52:56]: People who do numbers for a living. [0:52:57, 0:52:59]: Accountants and and such. [0:53:00, 0:53:04]: What really happens is now the police professionals get involved. [0:53:05, 0:53:06]: And they sit down. [0:53:07, 0:53:09]: In partnership with the community. [0:53:09, 0:53:19]: Because nothing's going to be planned until the chief goes out and talked to the public and says, what type of police force do you want to see? [0:53:19, 0:53:21]: In combination with him. [0:53:21, 0:53:23]: And the citizens review board. [0:53:24, 0:53:37]: We will get together. The chief will put a plan together. He will bring it back to the city council. Once he's brought it back to all of us, we've agreed upon the plan. Then it will be time to move forward to look back, look at the entire plan. [0:53:38, 0:53:40]: And see what the dollar amount is going to be. [0:53:41, 0:53:42]: Up until that point. [0:53:42, 0:53:43]: I can throw out. [0:53:43, 0:53:48]: You know, it's just like algebra. I could th I can make x equal anything that I want to. [0:53:49, 0:53:56]: until I have concrete tangible numbers to assign to those values. [0:53:56, 0:54:10]: It's it uh it could go either way. But in the end, no nobody's sitting up here. We just have projections. Nobody can tell you whether there's going to be a city tax. Hampton has a police department without a city tax. [0:54:11, 0:54:11]: Right. [0:54:11, 0:54:12]: Hmm. [0:54:12, 0:54:15]: Locus Grove has a police department without a city tax, right? [0:54:16, 0:54:31]: But until the numbers are finite, we understand what they are, and then actual operations will tell you, uh, and then those numbers will be fine, fine-tuned even more once our actual operations start. [0:54:32, 0:54:37]: But until that point, all of these hypotheticals can go east, west, north, and south. [0:54:38, 0:54:45]: But the real fact of the matter is nobody here can sit here and tell you definitively what's going to happen. [0:54:45, 0:54:48]: But in the end, it is our job. [0:54:48, 0:54:57]: To be able to come in to make the decision when the city has a nearly$16 million fund balance. [0:54:58, 0:55:00]: Mr. Wiggins verified that two days ago. [0:55:01, 0:55:05]: We just received we're gonna receive nine million dollars from the Biden. [0:55:05, 0:55:16]: uh administration program, uh the ARPA funds, the American Rescue Fund. The city has never been in a better financial pl place than it is right now. [0:55:17, 0:55:18]: We know that Congress is debating. [0:55:19, 0:55:20]: The infrastructure bill. [0:55:21, 0:55:23]: We could get eight to ten million dollars more. [0:55:24, 0:55:36]: And and yes, the funds for the ARP are restricted, but they're restricted right down the lane. It's a home run. Why? Because what does the city need more than anything? Infrastructure. [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: So the infrastructure costs are covered for the city. [0:55:41, 0:55:52]: Also, we we are in the middle of a pandemic, right? What can these funds be used for? We have a shortfall or whatever. We have pandemic funds to make that up. [0:55:52, 0:55:55]: But as our treasurer will tell you [0:55:55, 0:56:00]: And the tax commissioner will tell you, and Mr. Harris can answer after I finish speaking. [0:56:00, 0:56:02]: Revenu is surging. [0:56:03, 0:56:06]: It's at a all time high for Henry Cow. [0:56:06, 0:56:15]: We did not lose any money during the pandemic because what happened was all of those residents that were exiting our community to work. [0:56:15, 0:56:18]: Now they stay here on a daily basis and they work from home. [0:56:19, 0:56:23]: So we're seeing revit lost revenue surge in the community. [0:56:23, 0:56:27]: to make up the difference to to to take us to another level. [0:56:27, 0:56:34]: So in essence, we have a sixteen nearly sixteen million dollar fund balance. Revenue is growing. [0:56:35, 0:56:36]: On a monthly basis. [0:56:37, 0:56:48]: As SPLOSS revenue is growing, right? Okay. If the T-Splos passes, which I pray it certainly does, 30 million more dollars will be coming to the city coffers. [0:56:48, 0:56:49]: Restrictive funds again. [0:56:50, 0:57:02]: But there's no better time to do the what we're doing, to do what we're doing right now, because the city's financial structure is sound in every situation that it possibly can be. [0:57:02, 0:57:05]: And I will close by simply saying [0:57:05, 0:57:08]: You know, the answer to the question is the homeowners. [0:57:09, 0:57:09]: Okay. [0:57:10, 0:57:20]: Is that we are have embarked upon building the amphitheater and rebuilding the downtown and economic development so we can do what Cog County has done. [0:57:20, 0:57:22]: Winnett County and Fulton County. [0:57:22, 0:57:25]: They have businesses carrying the weight. [0:57:25, 0:57:29]: Henry County has homeowners carrying the weight. [0:57:29, 0:57:34]: As more industry and more high paying quality jobs come here. [0:57:35, 0:57:55]: The tax burden on the property owners will decrease. That's what will happen. And that that's why Cobb County, Fulton County, they have lower tax rates than we do, uh, because they have so much industry. And when you have industry, the property owners aren't soaked. And it's unfortunate. [0:57:55, 0:58:00]: But that's the reality of what we have in Henry County because of the lack of industry. [0:58:00, 0:58:04]: But every day each member of this Marin Council goes out. [0:58:04, 0:58:10]: to be able to increase economic development and with three thousand people. [0:58:10, 0:58:11]: Yeah. [0:58:11, 0:58:14]: Downtown Stockbridge on a regular basis for the amphitheater. [0:58:15, 0:58:21]: We did that. And we will continue to do that with the Cultural Arts Center and every business that we bring here. [0:58:22, 0:58:26]: Stand by a second, please. Mr. Harris, did you need to respond to any of that at this time? [0:58:26, 0:58:31]: The ta I want them to respond to the tax revenue and how it has increased. [0:58:32, 0:58:52]: Well, I I will say, you know, much like we saw at the state level, I think a lot of local jurisdictions are also seeing increases. Uh, you know, our our collection rates have been, you know, ninety-eight, ninety-nine percent over the last couple of years. Um, so we are seeing an uptick in the amount uh spending has, I mean, from um from sales tax revenues and things of that nature. [0:58:52, 0:59:12]: So much like we've seen at the state level, a lot of local jurisdictions are seeing that same kind of that same kind of um influx and and um increase in in um taxes levied over the course over the course of the last year and a half, two years. You know, some of those are certainly on the um state level is attributed to [0:59:12, 0:59:32]: they've um they were able to pick up on more. They incorporated a uh a mechanism for online taxation here within the state. And that went in that went into effect about a year and a half ago. So that was part of it. But I think across the board and talk to my my peers throughout the throughout the state, I think we're all seeing some of the [0:59:32, 0:59:35]: the same similar trends that we're seeing on a statewide basis. [0:59:37, 0:59:40]: Okay, thank you, sir. Mr Ms Gantt, uh your second time, please. Go ahead. [0:59:41, 0:59:54]: Thank you, Mayor. Sorry, point of order. Point of order. Point of order. Point of order. This is not the second time. This is like the third or fourth time. I believe I only had this only second time, as well I understand. Go ahead, Ms. Kent. [0:59:54, 0:59:56]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [0:59:58, 1:00:03]: As I heard all the the the pros and the cons or or everyone's statement. [1:00:03, 1:00:10]: Um I looked at the police report, the updated one from 2019 that we received in 2020. [1:00:11, 1:00:12]: And [1:00:13, 1:00:15]: The first statement was from [1:00:15, 1:00:17]: Uh councilman Alexander. [1:00:18, 1:00:31]: Who mentioned that this report was just done by some researchers and accountants, and that's not true. Some of the numbers and some of the report were done by officers of public safety as well as experts in PhD. [1:00:31, 1:00:43]: uh with the Carl Benson Institute as well as with Henry County Police Department that provided the numbers and their equipment totals and whatnot. They also looked at all of the cities. [1:00:43, 1:00:49]: um comparing them from McDonough and other cities that are are within our volume. [1:00:50, 1:01:05]: And again, one of the issues of concern was, and their summary, they actually stated that maybe we should, based off of these financials and the benefit, whether or not the benefit outweighs the burden. [1:01:05, 1:01:10]: speak more with the county and work out something because it makes sense. [1:01:10, 1:01:11]: Two [1:01:12, 1:01:14]: do it the way we've been doing it. [1:01:14, 1:01:34]: You can find it on page three or page 30 on the summary. On page 25, it kind of refers to some of the information and data it received some from some of the police officers. And so that takes care of that. It's not just accountants. Um the accountants did a financial report in June, and I believe received the email also in July. And if anybody wants that, [1:01:34, 1:01:36]: I'll make sure I get those dates for you. [1:01:36, 1:01:41]: The next thing is Hampton and Locust Grove have utilities. We don't. [1:01:42, 1:01:44]: Um and [1:01:44, 1:01:58]: The statement that Mr. Knight made on the email that I suggested earlier states that it is pretty much inevitable that we would have to have a tax. Now, right now that tax is only for the police department. [1:01:59, 1:02:19]: However, let me remind my colleagues that although we bonded out$25 million, we established 14 mil for our art center. And that's not going to cover the remaining four mil after we increase the size of the art center and the way we want it to. [1:02:19, 1:02:39]: appear. So that's an additional four. We don't limit, we don't have a cap or we can well, I don't know if we could put in there that we would limit this only to police services. But we are right now you can't hold one council hostage from another. So that cancels that. [1:02:39, 1:02:41]: We also talked. [1:02:42, 1:02:43]: Um [1:02:43, 1:03:03]: The um councilwoman barber made a good point. What if we annex in? Well, what if we put what if more people moved here? And the truth is the feasibility study gave us steps as well as I would ask all of my council members, and I can send you documentation like how to start a police department 101 that I've read recently. [1:03:03, 1:03:23]: From a cops organization that says that we first that in this study, it states we first should annex in. We have some jurisdictional line issues that may not benefit us. It will actually possibly cause a more of a delay because our boundaries are so messed up that the Henry County Police Department. [1:03:23, 1:03:31]: Or the city of Stockbridge Police Department will be confused as to where our jurisdictional lines are. So that may cause a delay. [1:03:31, 1:03:35]: I agree with Councilman Blount that we should have had these discussions before. [1:03:35, 1:03:55]: And I also think we should have had these discussions with our constituents. I think that we should have put this on the ballot for them. And I I I've heard, you know, this doesn't happen on startups, but I've also done that people just go out and they don't ask their citizens whether or not they want to be taxed. [1:03:55, 1:04:07]: Um, but I've heard different. Those startups came with new cities and they were on referendum ballots. So feel free to go look up any information that I have given you tonight. [1:04:08, 1:04:20]: Um, I plan on having a live myself documenting each and everything. Don't mind doing that. Don't mind giving you the dates and times of those documents. I've already printed them just in case they get ghost. [1:04:20, 1:04:33]: So if you don't have any mom, um I'm what I'm saying is, who is it to say that right now it says our estimate is a 3% increase each and every year? We've done this totally backwards. [1:04:34, 1:04:40]: totally backwards. We didn't follow the feasibility study that we paid for. [1:04:40, 1:04:43]: and hired experts, neither none of us, not one of us. [1:04:44, 1:05:03]: Unless one of you can tell me, have been a first responder besides Mr. Mayor Ford here, who was in the military. No one has been a first responder to the point where they know the logistics of how to start up a police department. So I relied on the experts that we paid. [1:05:04, 1:05:07]: We've done this totally backwards. [1:05:07, 1:05:08]: And [1:05:09, 1:05:12]: I hope that the citizens realize what we've done. [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: And I plan on continuing to let that be known. [1:05:17, 1:05:17]: Thank you. [1:05:18, 1:05:21]: Thank you. Mr. Blonde, go ahead. Mr. Blonde, go ahead, please. [1:05:23, 1:05:24]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:05:25, 1:05:28]: Uh, you know, when we talking to the citizens. [1:05:29, 1:05:33]: You know, when our organizational chart, the citizens come first and then the elect the body. [1:05:35, 1:05:41]: And I can say right now to the citizens, and Mr. Harris, if you bear with me, and I'm gonna get with with you one second. [1:05:42, 1:05:48]: You know, I learned about this our thriving to go toward the police department just as well as Councilwoman Gantt. [1:05:49, 1:05:51]: When there was amendment to the agenda. [1:05:51, 1:05:52]: To add three million dollars. [1:05:54, 1:06:01]: There was no discussion with this council, with our financial advisor, on how strategically we would or methodically we would move to start this police department. [1:06:02, 1:06:05]: It was put in place, and as you s right now. [1:06:06, 1:06:07]: Is this council? [1:06:08, 1:06:11]: moving because anytime we tell you about anybody we hire. [1:06:12, 1:06:14]: Financial advisor, city manager. [1:06:15, 1:06:19]: Our finance director that doesn't matter, those are hypotheticals. [1:06:20, 1:06:23]: Let's just continue to move forward on the council's agenda. [1:06:23, 1:06:25]: That's not what we was elected for. [1:06:26, 1:06:33]: One of the things one of the things that why we see this such a spike right now in our economy, and you correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Harris. [1:06:35, 1:06:39]: During twenty twenty that was there was still there was substantial spending. [1:06:40, 1:06:56]: But there was an increased spike because of the trillions that was put in our budget by the federal government. This is why you find over a hundred ships off the coast of LA and you got over 80,000 uh containers sitting in Savannah right now. [1:06:57, 1:07:02]: Because the country was not ready for that spike because of the money that was put into the government. [1:07:02, 1:07:04]: That don't last always. [1:07:05, 1:07:10]: So we can't sit here with that hypothetical believing that that's gonna last always. [1:07:11, 1:07:21]: So when you talk about goods and you talk about uh hardships and you talk about this pandemic, we're all talking hypotheticals. This is why you do a feasibility study. [1:07:22, 1:07:27]: And a feasibility study is what we have to go by to move forward. This council has to go by. [1:07:27, 1:07:33]: Other than that, why pay the taxpayers money to do it? We just allow three council members to tell us what we're gonna do. [1:07:34, 1:07:37]: And that's where we are. But Mr. Harris [1:07:38, 1:07:39]: My understanding [1:07:40, 1:07:42]: Із the spike in this economy. [1:07:42, 1:07:44]: Came through the [1:07:44, 1:07:49]: um trillion I think it was two point whatever trillion that came in to the government. [1:07:49, 1:07:53]: And that's in the in the dick keep keep an increase. [1:07:53, 1:08:00]: But this is why the economy, the the the uh everybody wasn't ready for that spike. That's why the shells are empty. It's not that the goods aren't there. [1:08:01, 1:08:17]: Is that they there's nobody to to to move those goods. You got over 80,000 containers sitting in Savannah and over a hundred ships sitting out sea in in LA. But none of this can say, none of us can sit here and say this is sustainable. [1:08:17, 1:08:21]: is what's coming in is an increase in our uh local option sale tax. [1:08:24, 1:08:30]: Um mayor and councilman, I I was trying to say I'm I'm certainly not an economist by by any stretch, but [1:08:30, 1:08:32]: Um I would I would certainly [1:08:33, 1:08:45]: weighed in to say that certainly that influx of of funding coming in certainly has had an impact not just not just in Henry County, not just in the state of Georgia, but you're right, nationwide. [1:08:45, 1:09:00]: And then but beyond that, I mean, like I said, I'm not an economist. So as far as what that looks like in projections, that's that's not that's not I'm I'm not I'm not skilled to be able to to provide that information. But yeah, certainly I think common sense would dictate that that had an impact, certainly. [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: But just to follow up on what I was thinking, Mr. Harris. [1:09:03, 1:09:05]: The la the last thing. [1:09:05, 1:09:06]: You know [1:09:08, 1:09:12]: What this council is doing, I'm vested in the city of Stockbridge. [1:09:12, 1:09:14]: My home is here. [1:09:14, 1:09:15]: And I'm besting. [1:09:16, 1:09:22]: We've got no citizens involved in this process. That's what I'm hearing each and every day with phone calls. [1:09:22, 1:09:25]: citizens that don't know all this council had to do [1:09:26, 1:09:30]: is vote to send out a send out a mailer to tell the citizens the direction we're going in. [1:09:32, 1:09:33]: That's all they had to do, but they didn't do it. [1:09:34, 1:09:37]: Because you came over here and amended the agenda. [1:09:37, 1:09:39]: to increase three million dollars. [1:09:39, 1:09:43]: We can we cannot continue to play politics with the taxpayers' money. [1:09:44, 1:09:45]: That's my final thing. [1:09:46, 1:09:50]: Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Thank you. Um [1:09:52, 1:09:55]: I have read the feasibility study. [1:09:55, 1:09:57]: I've read a number of documents. [1:09:58, 1:09:59]: Um [1:09:59, 1:10:01]: Discussing how you [1:10:02, 1:10:05]: uh develop a police department. [1:10:05, 1:10:06]: Um [1:10:07, 1:10:11]: These are documents that are out there, but they are not the the holy grail. [1:10:12, 1:10:14]: Uh even in the feasibility study. [1:10:15, 1:10:17]: There are pros and cons. [1:10:17, 1:10:18]: Uh to that. [1:10:19, 1:10:22]: And they talk about uh many of the advantages. [1:10:23, 1:10:25]: That the city will have [1:10:25, 1:10:28]: in in going forward and and forming those. [1:10:29, 1:10:29]: But [1:10:29, 1:10:32]: Feasibility studies and and documents. [1:10:33, 1:10:36]: They are nothing more than twos. [1:10:37, 1:10:38]: And framework. [1:10:39, 1:10:55]: to give you how you start up or how do you build something. It it's anything that you build, uh it's it's a framework, it's a tool. How? It doesn't tell you not to, it just tells you how to. [1:10:55, 1:10:56]: Uh that's number one. [1:10:57, 1:11:01]: I I'm going to agree with the mayor pro tem and and and I and those were [1:11:01, 1:11:04]: Uh great facts and opportunities that he spoke of. [1:11:05, 1:11:07]: And and when we look at these um [1:11:08, 1:11:15]: Federal dollars, and this is the thing that that I saw as well that we subsidize. [1:11:15, 1:11:17]: Да викан субсидіз. [1:11:18, 1:11:20]: Many of the [1:11:20, 1:11:40]: uh budgetary items that we normally would have to pay for. And that's the advantage that we have in just analyzing and looking at the the influx of finances that coming in. Because just just one um notion that we we identify with that uh these rescue [1:11:40, 1:11:55]: funds can be used up to once you establish your police department, they could be used up to 2024. And so all your infrastructure needs, that takes that weight off of your budget. [1:11:55, 1:11:56]: And let me just say this. [1:11:57, 1:12:02]: That's why we have budget hearings. That's why we just had recently uh a budget workshop. [1:12:03, 1:12:08]: We control the budget as long as it is balanced and it and everybody know. [1:12:08, 1:12:10]: That there's always things that [1:12:11, 1:12:12]: You don't have to have. [1:12:12, 1:12:15]: It's just like a Christmas wish list. [1:12:15, 1:12:25]: Your kids won't want everything, but that doesn't mean they're gonna get everything. So I'm just saying that we we have control. We control the budget. [1:12:25, 1:12:30]: uh we cut the waste where there's waste but let me just say this overall [1:12:30, 1:12:32]: I I still don't see a reason to wait. [1:12:33, 1:12:35]: Um we were elected. [1:12:35, 1:12:41]: uh to lead and I've also talked to a number a number of citizens. [1:12:42, 1:12:43]: And [1:12:43, 1:12:46]: I've heard some that have some some questions. [1:12:46, 1:12:48]: Um but overwhelmingly. [1:12:49, 1:12:49]: Um [1:12:49, 1:12:51]: Citizens say yes. [1:12:52, 1:12:58]: We need public safety. We need uh neighborhood patrol. Business owners say yes, we need that. So [1:12:59, 1:13:01]: I'm I'm just saying, um [1:13:02, 1:13:05]: We have to plan today for tomorrow, I think. [1:13:05, 1:13:06]: We have made a start. [1:13:07, 1:13:08]: Um, we determine [1:13:09, 1:13:11]: How fast? How slow? [1:13:11, 1:13:12]: And where? [1:13:12, 1:13:30]: But I I think and I and I support uh this stand uh where we are actually going. And I think this is a tremendous start, and we have to start somewhere in order to plan for tomorrow. I and I still I still have not heard of any legitimate reason why why to wait, because in my mind, [1:13:31, 1:13:32]: The path forward is very clear. [1:13:33, 1:13:38]: So Mayor, I'm going to end with that. And I know, Mary, I know you you want to try to move this agenda along, but [1:13:39, 1:13:43]: Uh, I'm still excited about the path forward, and it's still clear to me. [1:13:44, 1:13:47]: Um that that vision and that that pass forward. [1:13:47, 1:13:55]: Thank you. And Mr. Harris, I just want to thank you again for coming and sharing that information. And it was information that. [1:13:55, 1:14:09]: Uh we had already uh digested because I know that uh Mr. Wiggins uh and Mr. Knight have talked to you on on a number of occasions and I've had these discussions with Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Knight. And uh so this is just [1:14:10, 1:14:20]: We're just asking you tonight. These discussions have been going on for a while. I know I've asked and I'm satisfied with the answer that I received back. So thank you again, Ms. Harris. [1:14:20, 1:14:27]: Maybe council members want you to know that when Mr. Alexander speaks, that'll be two times from everybody. [1:14:27, 1:14:28]: On en tire council. [1:14:28, 1:14:30]: So and then uh we're gonna move on. [1:14:30, 1:14:32]: No go ahead, my protein. [1:14:32, 1:14:34]: Thank you, sir, for keeping count. [1:14:34, 1:14:38]: Uh we uh this is what I want to close on saying but generally. [1:14:38, 1:14:40]: We had a town hall in December. [1:14:41, 1:14:44]: Everybody was available that town hall was open to everybody. [1:14:46, 1:14:47]: The the mayor. [1:14:48, 1:14:49]: Castlevan Blount. [1:14:49, 1:14:50]: Councilman top uh [1:14:50, 1:14:51]: Uh [1:14:51, 1:14:56]: Councilwoman Blount, Councilman Blount, Councilwoman Gantt, everybody was on that town hall. [1:14:57, 1:14:59]: The potential of a city tax was mentioned then. [1:15:01, 1:15:02]: We had a town hall. [1:15:03, 1:15:05]: I was on the town in my town hall. [1:15:06, 1:15:07]: That was open to the public. [1:15:07, 1:15:13]: The city manager gave a full detail how the city how the plan was gonna be rolled out. [1:15:13, 1:15:14]: That was in April. [1:15:14, 1:15:26]: He gave a slide presentation on the plan. He didn't just talk about it. He had a side slide presentation, told the public we were looking for a police chief, getting ready to hire a police chief. [1:15:26, 1:15:46]: And guess how how many other conversations have we had just like this at every single meeting? We've had one of these conversations, almost every single meeting. So the message not being out is just ludicrous because we talk about it just like we're talking about it right now. [1:15:46, 1:15:50]: All the time, regularly, at almost every meeting. [1:15:51, 1:15:56]: mister Blount says the same thing, tax, tax, tax. Miss Gantt says the same thing. Tax, tax, tax. [1:15:56, 1:15:59]: We've had all the figures at our budget retreat. [1:16:00, 1:16:12]: We are having the chief that we hired to come on, but one thing was missed in this entire discussion. Henry County says, get your own police force for the last six to eight years. [1:16:12, 1:16:16]: They've been beating on a drum saying, get your own police force. [1:16:17, 1:16:30]: Over and over again. Just look at all of them meetings over and over again. They tried to end our police service in 2015 altogether, but the law wouldn't allow them to do it. So they gave us. [1:16:30, 1:16:32]: A halfway situation. [1:16:33, 1:16:34]: You know what? [1:16:35, 1:16:37]: I was at the swearing end of Chief Tremor. [1:16:39, 1:16:44]: Councilman Blount and Councilwoman Gantt didn't even bother to show up. But I know who did show up. [1:16:45, 1:16:48]: Chairwoman Colotta Horrell showed up. [1:16:49, 1:16:52]: Henry County Chief of Police Ammerman showed up. [1:16:53, 1:16:55]: Deputy Chief Ireland showed up. [1:16:57, 1:17:00]: I know that Henry County is in support. [1:17:00, 1:17:12]: of the fact that the city of Stockbridge is starting their own police department because they like the fact that McDonough has a police department. They like the fact that Locust Grove and Hampton have police departments. [1:17:12, 1:17:13]: And they have said it. [1:17:14, 1:17:26]: Too many times to count. Get your own police department stock bridge. Carry your own weight. We spent ten years trying to negotiate a deal. [1:17:27, 1:17:29]: Да газ а мільян дорз. [1:17:29, 1:17:49]: In rent in fine and forfeiture revenue going to the state instead of coming to the city. A million dollars in so when somebody gets a ticket in the city of Stockbridge, you know how much we collect? Zero, none, because the money doesn't come to us, because the county has been diverting it for years. So in the [1:17:49, 1:17:55]: last six wheel years we lost five or six million dollars in revenue that didn't come to the city. [1:17:56, 1:17:58]: But I'm gonna close by saying this. [1:17:58, 1:18:04]: If you don't if you don't understand that Henry County wasn't interested in negotiating with us. [1:18:05, 1:18:06]: Ask the chairwoman. [1:18:07, 1:18:08]: Ask your commissioners. [1:18:09, 1:18:22]: And verbatum, every last one of them will say Stockbridge needs their own police department. They support this decision. They want us to get off of them so they can defend the rest of the unincorporated area. [1:18:23, 1:18:33]: And again, if you had been at the swearing in of the chief, you could have talked to the chairwoman. She was glowing, smiling ear to ear, saying, yo, Stockbridge, it's time. [1:18:34, 1:18:39]: The Henry County supports us having our own police department and we're moving forward. Thank you. [1:18:40, 1:18:48]: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, uh Chief Frank Tramor. Sir, you're online. Uh all this discussion surrounding your department, your task. [1:18:49, 1:18:55]: I just want to offer you the opportunity to speak at this point if you want anything any comments or anything that you need to feel you need to say. [1:18:56, 1:18:57]: The floor is yours, sir, if you want it. [1:19:00, 1:19:08]: Well thank you, Mayor, and I apologize. I'm not able to look at you directly. I'm sitting in a line of traffic here just south of the city now. I actually headed back uh back home. [1:19:08, 1:19:17]: But um I I just wanna say I certainly understand the uh the concerns and I think that there are a lot of uh valid points on both ends that have been made. But what I do look forward to [1:19:18, 1:19:24]: is working together with everybody to actually outline a plan. And I know that there may um [1:19:25, 1:19:36]: Th there's still some some conversations. There's still some discussions. There's still some decisions that need to be made and certainly uh council and members of our community need to be involved in those conversations and discussions. [1:19:37, 1:19:55]: And a lot of things as it relates to budget uh is uh uh surrounding a police department is gonna be contingent upon the desired level and scope of service that the citizens want and um uh desire from their police department. So a lot of these things still um are uh estimates that are hypotheticals. [1:19:55, 1:19:59]: And um I certainly think that that when we have the opportunity to get everybody to [1:20:05, 1:20:10]: All right, sir. Yeah, I uh looks like you've frozen and a number of these uh these concerns. [1:20:14, 1:20:19]: Okay, Chief, you must be going through a uh some type of area there. We you're going in and out, sir. [1:20:25, 1:20:26]: Can you hear me now? [1:20:26, 1:20:27]: Now now I can hear you too. [1:20:28, 1:20:30]: Okay, very well. [1:20:31, 1:20:32]: Um [1:20:33, 1:20:36]: Work of [1:20:36, 1:20:45]: Summary of the scarlet they desire will be able to uh say more uh conclusively, more concretely. [1:20:45, 1:20:53]: uh what it's going to take in order to accomplish that objective. And I certainly do want the community's input in terms of [1:20:54, 1:20:55]: Uh what they want to see. [1:20:59, 1:21:00]: Department. [1:21:00, 1:21:02]: Based on that [1:21:02, 1:21:07]: I think that will largely determine move forward in uh in terms of uh budget to provide that level of service. [1:21:11, 1:21:13]: All right, we lost you again, Chief. You're going in and out. [1:21:14, 1:21:14]: Okay. [1:21:19, 1:21:19]: Okay, I [1:21:20, 1:21:22]: I know. Apologize. Can you hear me? [1:21:22, 1:21:24]: Here yeah, hear you now again. [1:21:26, 1:21:32]: Okay, okay. I'm so sorry for the technical difficulties. Where did you pick up on any of that? [1:21:32, 1:21:36]: Well, it about the last minute or so it's been in and out. Yeah. [1:21:36, 1:21:40]: We can maybe pull back uh about a minute and then repeat it again or maybe we'll catch it all. [1:21:41, 1:21:43]: And if hopefully that'll work. If not, we'll have to move on. [1:21:46, 1:22:01]: Okay, very well. So what I wanna say is that yeah, there's still a lot of things that have to be determined as it relates to implementation of the department and what that looks at community and uh we we want our elected body to be involved in those conversations and those discussions. [1:22:02, 1:22:06]: And the budget for the police department is gonna be contingent upon the desires of the community. [1:22:06, 1:22:12]: There are several different models that I've considered and uh the cost of those models is gonna be again contingent upon [1:22:12, 1:22:14]: The wishes of the community. [1:22:14, 1:22:20]: And um I think that when we have an opportunity to sit down and work together that this will be a lot more clear to everybody. [1:22:21, 1:22:23]: And we certainly again want to involve the community in [1:22:23, 1:22:24]: Yeah. [1:22:25, 1:22:27]: Uh, share those figures with them. [1:22:28, 1:22:35]: But um I I I think that they certainly need to be involved in that. And once we have the community input, we'll have a better idea. [1:22:35, 1:22:38]: In terms of what we need to fund this police department moving forward. [1:22:40, 1:23:00]: All right, sir. Thank you. Thank you for that, Chief. Have a safe trip back home. Uh obviously you can stay connected as long as you like, sir, in that aspect. Okay. And um on that note, uh just in case people don't know, I will at least tell you that uh I'm support of what we have we've done thus far to hire uh Chief Frank Tramor to start to play. [1:23:00, 1:23:20]: Police department. I think it's something that we need to do. We'll work through the process, give them the opportunity to engage the citizens, come up with a plan and have make sure you have the citizens' input in this aspect. We have had town halls over the course of the years, off and on. We've been discussing this for several years and this aspect. So it's not time to move forward. So we now have an individual that we [1:23:20, 1:23:40]: We've hired and that has the mission to develop this program, develop this department, he's going to get an opportunity to do so. And you citizens will be involved in that process and we'll continue to make go forward and make things work in this aspect. So we'll see. Uh we're up for the challenge. We're going to make it work one way or the other. And if for some strange reason doesn't, we'll regroup. But he's going to [1:23:40, 1:23:48]: get the opportunity to go forward with this. On that note, uh uh Mr. Harris, anything else you need to add before we close out this session of the meeting? [1:23:49, 1:24:01]: No, not at all. Um, should the council have any other questions, my me or my staff are always available for to address any issues or concerns or to meet again. That's what we're here for. So happy to help anyone we can. [1:24:02, 1:24:13]: Thank you, Tax Commissioner. Henry County Tax Commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Michael Heron. Thank you for your time in Savannah. So have much of a good time. I will. All right. Good to see you, Mike. Y'all as well. Good to see y'all. [1:24:13, 1:24:15]: Take care now. Bye bye. Bye bye. [1:24:16, 1:24:36]: Old business council. Council consideration to approve request for proposal. RFP number 2019-0032P. Facility security equipment system services for related equipment and supplies. The procurement division is requesting approval to increase the contract amount of Johnson control. Security solutions L L C. [1:24:36, 1:24:56]: Tyco Integrated Security LLC, an amount of$496,332 and 6 cents for installation cost plus$7,995.88 for service cost and monitoring cost, monitoring cost of a total for a total of$504,320. [1:24:56, 1:25:02]: $27.94. This is presented by Miss Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [1:25:05, 1:25:23]: Uh yes, Mayor and Council. This is uh the city has been for the last two years engaging and upgrading this access control, uh, inclusion monitoring and fire monitoring. So we're uh asking Mayor and Council to allow us to move forward with this project. We've already got [1:25:23, 1:25:25]: Several buildings, uh [1:25:26, 1:25:45]: the amphitheater, the public works building that has the security system. And also we've got to build a municipal court and city hall that have outlast their useful life as well as the municipal court is on a different system. But we want to consolidate all of those systems into one platform that the city [1:25:45, 1:25:47]: would be able to use and I'll let uh [1:25:47, 1:25:52]: Mr. Dean from Johnson Control, answer any questions if there are any. [1:25:53, 1:25:55]: But one thing to mention that this is [1:25:55, 1:26:00]: We'll be financed over a five year period. We've looked at it. We we'll budget for the [1:26:00, 1:26:03]: monthly annual payments for this project. [1:26:05, 1:26:09]: Thanks, sir. Um council, any questions for uh [1:26:09, 1:26:13]: Mr. Aaron or anybody else? Yes, sir. Go ahead, Mayor Protell. [1:26:13, 1:26:20]: So let me ask you a question. When I hear the word financing, I think about, you know, obviously, is the financing free? [1:26:23, 1:26:30]: I'll let Mr. Dean speak to this. Was the city manager did not want to take that amount out of fund balance? [1:26:31, 1:26:36]: with all the projects that were going on. So that's why we looked at this option. [1:26:38, 1:26:40]: But I'll let Mr. Dean speak to that. [1:26:40, 1:27:00]: Certainly. And let me just start by saying um, you know, appreciate the opportunity to be in front of everyone here to uh answer any questions. Certainly appreciate the opportunity to follow up the tax commissioner. That's always a fun conversation. Um, but certainly in terms of the financing, uh, Mayor Pro Tem. [1:27:00, 1:27:01]: Alexander it [1:27:02, 1:27:11]: Yes, to your to your point. It is a five-year agreement. It's done through a third party uh financing company that we utilize. Um [1:27:11, 1:27:20]: where it is going to be some sort of cost. I don't have the exact figures because unfortunately I'm standing in as you can see by the name that I'm identified by. [1:27:20, 1:27:36]: Uh our senior accountant executive uh Will Bush just happens to be on uh on vacation uh today celebrating a wedding anniversary. Um so I'm stepping in for him, but in terms of the exact details and the cost of that, I don't have those exact figures. I apologize. [1:27:36, 1:27:46]: Mr. Aaron, do you have a ballpark figure on what we're talking about? We I mean what what type of money are we talking about financing for five years? [1:27:46, 1:27:49]: Versus I mean you have millions of dollars in your own [1:27:49, 1:27:51]: uh funds. [1:27:52, 1:28:03]: Uh uh different water enterprise water fund, sewer fund, all these other funds. You got all this money too. So we even count it. So let's let's talk about that. So what how what are we talking about? [1:28:04, 1:28:13]: These are for general fund buildings. These are not water and sewer building. This is for city hall, the municipal court, the Merrill Manders, the Ted Strickland. Um [1:28:14, 1:28:24]: And I think that's that's it in reference to city buildings. The cost is based on a price of four hundred and seventy-four thousand one hundred and thirty-nine dollars. [1:28:25, 1:28:29]: Okay, so I mean, how much that's this is what I wanna know. [1:28:29, 1:28:42]: We have four hundred thousand dollars to spend. Is it going to c how much is it gonna cost to finance? I wanna know how much the finance before I'm ready to move forward. I wanna know how much the financing is. If the financing is not significant. [1:28:42, 1:28:44]: I suggest we just pay for it. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: Are you able to answer that Mr. Aaron? [1:28:52, 1:28:53]: Um [1:28:57, 1:28:59]: Based on what I have [1:28:59, 1:29:00]: Uh [1:29:01, 1:29:03]: Just a quick and [1:29:07, 1:29:09]: It looked like a hundred and forty thousand dollars. [1:29:09, 1:29:11]: If we financed it over five years. [1:29:13, 1:29:18]: We're gonna pay a hundred and forty thousand dollars to finance this over fire. That's what you just said. [1:29:19, 1:29:20]: Roughly, yes, sir. [1:29:20, 1:29:28]: That makes no sense. Let's just revisit this. And I'm I'm recommending that we table this, circle back to it, and look at. [1:29:28, 1:29:32]: Uh what we can do uh in order to [1:29:32, 1:29:45]: actually pay this off because it makes no sense when we have all of this fun all of these funds in the bank to pay a hundred and forty thousand dollars in interest in five years when we have the money. That makes no sense. [1:29:46, 1:30:01]: Is that a motion? I don't I don't know. I I I certainly would I mean I'll let I'll let the conversation continue, but I my my suggestion is we table this because we need to pay for this. We got the money. We got well just talked about all the money that the city had. [1:30:01, 1:30:14]: in order for us to do this. Why would we give away$140,000 when we got all sixteen million dollars in fund balance, nine million dollars in the bottom infrastructure plan, and more money coming in every month? That don't make any sense. [1:30:14, 1:30:16]: Okay, stand by please. Miss Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:30:17, 1:30:18]: Thank you, uh Mayor. [1:30:19, 1:30:29]: Um, Mr. Wiggins, do you know why Mr. Knighton wanted us to finance this project? Exactly. What were the concerns about the projects and the funds that we have? [1:30:30, 1:30:33]: Um because although we have those money showing in [1:30:34, 1:30:44]: you know, fund balance. They've already been accounted for in spending. I I always say we can't keep spending the same two million dollars on 20 projects. [1:30:45, 1:30:47]: We used to do that a lot. [1:30:47, 1:30:48]: Um [1:30:49, 1:30:58]: A while ago we would name all these different projects we could spend on the two point five or the three million dollars that we sold, we would sell a piece of property and say we're gonna spend it on that. [1:30:58, 1:31:03]: And we spend it, but we can't spend it like five times. So [1:31:04, 1:31:05]: There has to be a reason. [1:31:06, 1:31:11]: For something like this for a and what's the dollar amount of the project again? [1:31:15, 1:31:17]: I think the dollar amount is about um [1:31:18, 1:31:21]: A little less than five hundred thousand dollars. Five hundred and four thousand dollars. [1:31:21, 1:31:22]: I think the [1:31:23, 1:31:25]: The thinking the thinking on this at the time. [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: was when um um [1:31:28, 1:31:32]: We was going back and forth with uh Johnson control on [1:31:32, 1:31:36]: What needs to be um secured um [1:31:37, 1:31:42]: the amphitheater was just just uh getting started during the course of it. [1:31:42, 1:31:43]: Uh [1:31:44, 1:31:46]: you know, finishing the project. [1:31:47, 1:31:48]: The thing it was uh [1:31:48, 1:31:50]: We go ahead and finance because at the time. [1:31:51, 1:31:54]: We're looking at all the funds for this particular year. [1:31:55, 1:31:58]: That's the thing we have to look at if you're gonna try to pay for it all at once. [1:31:59, 1:32:02]: You gotta see w where you're gonna all at once pour the money from. [1:32:03, 1:32:04]: And at the time [1:32:04, 1:32:08]: the uh the uh the money wasn't in one bucket because we didn't budget them. [1:32:09, 1:32:13]: This is this was something that that that was coming to fruition. [1:32:13, 1:32:16]: through the uh amphitheater. And then at the time [1:32:16, 1:32:18]: Really was just for the amplitude about the [1:32:18, 1:32:21]: Like Mr uh uh like D should see it. [1:32:22, 1:32:24]: We looked at the whole we it's it it was time to look at the whole city. [1:32:25, 1:32:27]: And making sure that the whole city is secure. [1:32:27, 1:32:31]: And that's the reason why the price is i it is, because I think [1:32:31, 1:32:34]: At in the beginning we was looking at was around ninety nine. [1:32:34, 1:32:37]: Some uh hundreds, some thousand dollars. [1:32:37, 1:32:39]: Maybe uh go out to maybe uh [1:32:40, 1:32:41]: Maybe two hundred, some thousand. [1:32:41, 1:32:43]: It was just for the amphitheater, but [1:32:43, 1:32:44]: Since we incorporated [1:32:44, 1:32:45]: The whole city. [1:32:46, 1:32:52]: to grab all of the general f all all all of the buildings. That's why the uh you have the five hundred thousand. So um [1:32:53, 1:32:53]: Okay. [1:32:54, 1:32:57]: I I don't think we looked at it again. I think the financing [1:32:58, 1:33:00]: Uh that we looked at before was [1:33:01, 1:33:01]: The sound. [1:33:02, 1:33:03]: But um [1:33:04, 1:33:05]: You know. [1:33:06, 1:33:08]: But the council's council's will and you know [1:33:09, 1:33:11]: You know, in further discussion. [1:33:12, 1:33:17]: If we want to try to pull uh some money together with using the fund balance. [1:33:17, 1:33:20]: That that that that is a decision for the for the council. [1:33:21, 1:33:24]: Listen, I I have some concerns. [1:33:24, 1:33:25]: Um [1:33:26, 1:33:41]: We we spend way too much. It's not okay to just say spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, because look at our fund balance. The auditors have said it, our financial advisor has said it. Mr. Knighton even had put it in writing. You know, we're gonna put strain. [1:33:41, 1:33:56]: on our on our budget and on our balance. I take pride in the fact that we do have some savings. It was also advised that we don't go to the 25% let minimum, you know, that we've heard often. [1:33:56, 1:33:59]: And you know, I don't want that blood on my hands. [1:34:00, 1:34:03]: I I have a concern that we [1:34:03, 1:34:08]: Are if we're financing something like this, that raises a red flag to me. [1:34:09, 1:34:10]: All day, every day. [1:34:11, 1:34:13]: And it should raise a red flag to you all too. [1:34:15, 1:34:15]: Um [1:34:15, 1:34:20]: You know, we've allocated money for other projects. [1:34:20, 1:34:22]: That's why we're having to finance this. [1:34:23, 1:34:24]: We're just spending. [1:34:26, 1:34:30]: That's uh and and you know, I can't agree to that. [1:34:31, 1:34:41]: Our infrastructure is important. These are in very I mean it's important, but we put this together and and here we are. It's five hundred thousand dollars. You telling me I need to finance it. [1:34:44, 1:34:46]: That's a telltale sign there that there's [1:34:46, 1:34:48]: An issue with spending. [1:34:49, 1:34:50]: That we need to be aware of. [1:34:53, 1:34:54]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:34:56, 1:35:02]: I was actually prepared to abstain from voting on this because I don't see any supporting documents. [1:35:02, 1:35:04]: Pertaining to this item. [1:35:05, 1:35:06]: Okay. [1:35:06, 1:35:07]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:35:08, 1:35:13]: Uh we're done. You're not you were not done. I thought you were done. [1:35:13, 1:35:15]: No, I wasn't done. Go ahead, please. [1:35:17, 1:35:19]: What I wanna ask is [1:35:20, 1:35:22]: What is the recommendation? [1:35:22, 1:35:23]: From Mr. Aaron. [1:35:24, 1:35:25]: On how to [1:35:26, 1:35:27]: Handle this. [1:35:27, 1:35:30]: Is he asking council to approve? [1:35:32, 1:35:35]: This um spending from general fund. [1:35:36, 1:35:37]: Is he asking? [1:35:38, 1:35:41]: I mean, I don't know how we plan to finance this. Um [1:35:41, 1:35:43]: Mr. Aaron, can you answer that please? [1:35:44, 1:35:56]: Yes, ma'am. This pro as I said, this project has been ongoing for two plus two plus years. And there's some issue with outdated equipment when it comes to ours, security and access control monitoring. [1:35:57, 1:36:04]: And we've had this conversation with the city manager. And his concern was at the time the city would had a lot of projects going on. [1:36:04, 1:36:19]: He didn't want to take a large amount out of fund balance. So we went back to jobs control and realized that there was a financing option. The money was always there in fund balance if the city wanted to pay for it up front, but the city manager just felt at the time. [1:36:20, 1:36:40]: With all the projects that were going on and we were using fund balance for this project and that project, he didn't want to spend that larger amount out of fund balance. So that's why we came to council with the financing option because there are some equipment that needs to be replaced that's outdated, that's original to the city hall building, original to when the city [1:36:40, 1:36:42]: Took over the municipal court. [1:36:42, 1:36:54]: And so with the police department is getting started up. This project's gonna take a while. There are some features that need to be added to the the courtroom over there as well as the building. So we was trying to get these things in. [1:36:54, 1:37:10]: in place and done. Like I said, this has been going on for two years and we're just trying to bring it to a resolution. And at the time when we sat down with the city manager, he didn't want to take that amount of money out of fund balance with all the projects that was going on. So that's why we looked at this option. [1:37:11, 1:37:18]: So is this the same services? There was a gentleman who actually came and presented to the council. [1:37:18, 1:37:21]: All the buildings that he [1:37:21, 1:37:21]: Um [1:37:22, 1:37:24]: did an audit of [1:37:24, 1:37:25]: Is this what [1:37:26, 1:37:28]: He was doing as well, or is this something separate? [1:37:30, 1:37:46]: As far as I know, this is something separate. Like I said, we had uh we've got the updated security monitoring at the amphitheater. We've got it at the new public works building, but we wanted to update what we had at City Hall and Municipal Court. We don't have anything in the mural managers or the admin or the Ted Strickland. [1:37:46, 1:37:49]: And we want to bring those facilities online as well. [1:37:50, 1:37:53]: Okay, can you well um I [1:37:53, 1:38:02]: I am willing to second Mayor Pro Tem's uh motion to table this. If you could just bring back the supporting documents at our next meeting. [1:38:02, 1:38:05]: Then of course I believe this is something uh [1:38:05, 1:38:06]: critical that we do need. [1:38:06, 1:38:07]: Um [1:38:07, 1:38:10]: It's a security and monitor monitoring system. [1:38:11, 1:38:11]: We need them. [1:38:12, 1:38:13]: So thank you. [1:38:14, 1:38:15]: Come on. Mr. Thomas, please go ahead. [1:38:16, 1:38:22]: Yes, uh Mr. Aaron, thank you. Uh and I I I guess one of the issues that I have when you mentioned [1:38:22, 1:38:28]: Um this been in the pipeline for two or three years and I'm trying to gauge [1:38:28, 1:38:37]: um you know what were those issues um three years ago as to why it didn't come forward. Secondly I wanted to hear from procurement. [1:38:38, 1:38:39]: Um, just to [1:38:40, 1:38:43]: Um, you know, get another uh opinion on it. So [1:38:43, 1:38:45]: Uh can Mrs. Millis out a [1:38:46, 1:38:48]: Uh, give us some insight on this issue. [1:38:51, 1:38:51]: Ms. Miller? [1:38:57, 1:38:58]: Miss Miller. [1:39:05, 1:39:08]: Ah yes, I'm sorry. I do apologize. I was having some technical difficulties. [1:39:09, 1:39:11]: Um regarding this agenda item. [1:39:12, 1:39:12]: Um [1:39:13, 1:39:16]: My recommendation um is to pull the item and um [1:39:17, 1:39:17]: Bring it back. [1:39:17, 1:39:19]: Um with additional information. [1:39:19, 1:39:20]: Yes, I did. [1:39:20, 1:39:21]: Advice um [1:39:22, 1:39:24]: The city manager and Dashes. [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: Uh Ms. Thomas, another question, sir. [1:39:29, 1:39:44]: Well, I I I I guess it makes sense then to uh bring back the su supporting documents so we can actually uh review and analyze. So I would be in favor of that as well. But no without a doubt, you know, uh security uh is needed. [1:39:46, 1:39:47]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:39:47, 1:39:51]: No problem. Uh anybody else? Any other anybody else? [1:39:52, 1:39:53]: Uh Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [1:39:55, 1:40:04]: Thank you, Mayor. M Mr Aaron, is this when you talk about justice control, not because I don't have any supporting documents on it either. Um [1:40:05, 1:40:07]: Did you mention City Hall with this? [1:40:08, 1:40:11]: Yes, sir. There's some uh [1:40:11, 1:40:19]: Uh some things I'd rather not speak about in the open meeting, but there are some upgrades that are needed at City Hall as well as the municipal court building. [1:40:19, 1:40:23]: Okay, some that are needed, but in this [1:40:23, 1:40:26]: In this amount, does that include City Hall? [1:40:26, 1:40:30]: Yes, sir. City Hall, the municipal court, the mural manders. [1:40:30, 1:40:31]: And it's strictly. [1:40:35, 1:40:35]: Okay. [1:40:36, 1:40:37]: That that's all. Thanks. [1:40:38, 1:40:40]: Back to you, Mayor Portan. Do you want to make a motion here? [1:40:41, 1:40:46]: I wanna say just a couple of words real quick. There has l let me say something real quick. [1:40:46, 1:40:47]: To my knowledge. [1:40:47, 1:40:51]: We have nearly sixteen million dollars in the reserve funds. [1:40:51, 1:40:59]: I don't know anything about any of it already being reserved for anything else because it hasn't been reserved for anything else, the reserve fund. [1:40:59, 1:41:01]: We have splots dollars coming in. [1:41:02, 1:41:18]: That we allocated to pay for a lot of these projects. So we basically we took low interest loans in order to move those projects forward so they could be paid back over five years from the splots. That's what we did. So the 16, the nearly 16 billion dollar fund. [1:41:18, 1:41:20]: uh balance that we have. [1:41:20, 1:41:25]: That money hasn't been allocated to anything to my knowledge, because this council hasn't voted. [1:41:25, 1:41:35]: to allocate it for anything. Has the money been, Mr. Wiggins, has the sixteen nearly sixteen billion dollars been allocated for any projects that you're aware of? [1:41:36, 1:41:39]: No, it's not allocated to to [1:41:39, 1:41:42]: specific projects. It's it's just that um [1:41:42, 1:41:44]: You know, you you want to keep [1:41:45, 1:41:45]: Um [1:41:47, 1:41:49]: You know, uh fun uh uh uh [1:41:50, 1:41:55]: Our budget is about 12.8 million. You want to keep about that much in there. [1:41:55, 1:41:55]: Uh [1:41:56, 1:42:00]: going from year to year so you can uh you know, in in case of uh [1:42:00, 1:42:03]: Some catastrophic uh emergency, but [1:42:03, 1:42:07]: far as the funds, funds are not adequate, you know, uh dedicated to [1:42:07, 1:42:10]: specific uh uh project or any kind of uh [1:42:11, 1:42:14]: you know, uh purchase of our equipment, anything like that. [1:42:14, 1:42:15]: It's uh [1:42:15, 1:42:16]: Is is there [1:42:17, 1:42:18]: For reserve. [1:42:18, 1:42:20]: Is there for [1:42:21, 1:42:23]: City council make a decision on [1:42:23, 1:42:24]: What do you want to use it for? [1:42:25, 1:42:35]: Which is an exact situation like this, where we can save$140,000 over five years. Where are we getting the money from? A loan shark at twenty percent? [1:42:35, 1:42:43]: Over five years, who's financing this? This that's just certainly not wise. And we can save a hundred and forty thousand dollars. [1:42:43, 1:43:03]: Over five years, think what we can do with that. It makes sense to me. This whole process is uh it needs to be reviewed, and we need time uh to bring this back because uh that makes no sense that we're moving down uh that particular road. And then and again, revenue and everything is growing. So I'm gonna make a motion to. [1:43:03, 1:43:10]: revisit this it to table this item to bring back additional documentation and to look at the city actually going ahead [1:43:11, 1:43:14]: And paying this saving a hundred and forty thousand dollars. [1:43:15, 1:43:15]: Second. [1:43:20, 1:43:21]: You muted, Mayor. [1:43:23, 1:43:32]: Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Anyway, motion made by Pro Tempor Tem Alexander, segmented by Councilwoman Barber. And any further discussion? [1:43:33, 1:43:44]: Let me let me get let me be clear on the uh motion there. Go ahead. So it's the make is the motion to revisit to get documents, but you also put an end, Mr. Alexander, to [1:43:44, 1:43:51]: move forward to paying the the amount in totality. Is that part of your motion to say we're gonna pay the amount in totality? [1:43:52, 1:44:12]: My my motion does include that, but it's up to the council to decide what we do. But that's my motion because there's no sense to to waste$140,000. We got the money in the bank. No, I I get that. I just want to understand the motion. Yeah, that's that's my motion right now. And and the reason let me explain a little bit first. [1:44:12, 1:44:22]: The reason that I'm doing that is because again, we have the money in the bank. We have available funds to us and we can save$140,000. Yes. [1:44:23, 1:44:24]: Uh [1:44:25, 1:44:28]: So the motion should include non f not financing. [1:44:29, 1:44:30]: I believe I'm Mayor Pro Tem. [1:44:32, 1:44:51]: I'm if he yeah, well you can you can say it that way if he wants to mayor if you will because uh because if if he just says he wants to revisit it, all of that can be uh understood on the re whenever we revisit it. And uh we can actually uh talk through uh how how we can go through that. I don't think you need to actually say that. [1:44:51, 1:44:54]: If we're gonna revisit it. But I would say that that um [1:44:55, 1:44:57]: I I would that this had would have been done. [1:44:58, 1:45:05]: uh in the process of of all the construction that was going on because there's some discussions we need to also have. [1:45:05, 1:45:10]: on allotments of money, monies that uh if those allotments wasn't [1:45:11, 1:45:11]: Um [1:45:12, 1:45:13]: Uh depleted. [1:45:14, 1:45:20]: uh where are those fines going and uh and in certain areas which separate discussion in itself. [1:45:20, 1:45:21]: Um [1:45:22, 1:45:24]: But I I'm I'm I'm okay with revisiting. [1:45:25, 1:45:32]: uh this and get in further documents, but we um um it's just that last part. I I just want to make sure that [1:45:33, 1:45:35]: What is needed is needed. [1:45:35, 1:45:41]: But I just wanna make sure we're getting there in the right way. And and I'm just trying to figure out how do we get here now when [1:45:42, 1:45:49]: This should have this is why we why we you know putting the uh you know this should have been done. That's all I'm gonna say. [1:45:50, 1:45:51]: All right. [1:45:51, 1:46:11]: Uh Mirapal Tim, you uh your motion is what it is. You have no intention on changing the uh the verbage in the motion, is that right? I I just said what it meant, which is we you know we're revisiting this and and the intention is to pay for it unless something dynamite comes out and says this is not the way. I don't see anything coming up saying that$140,000 being saved. [1:46:11, 1:46:22]: is not a good idea. So I would certainly hope that we would move through with paying for it, but we'll revisit it. We don't want to make the decision here tonight, but we certainly need to look at it. And that would be my intention. [1:46:22, 1:46:30]: All right. Uh so Ms. uh Clerk, uh I'm assuming you got all that there. Uh stand by m uh Mr. Thomas, stand by please. Miss Miller, go ahead, please. [1:46:30, 1:46:34]: I I just wanted to add, um I will go ahead and um [1:46:35, 1:46:45]: modify the agenda to include a comparable so that council can see if it was finance, what it would cost, what the overall would cost as well. So it would be in one agenda. [1:46:45, 1:46:50]: along with the additional backup information which will show the actual breakdown of the entire cost. [1:46:51, 1:46:52]: All right. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:46:53, 1:46:59]: Well, I I I think that should always be the norm anyway. I think the more information that we have. [1:47:00, 1:47:02]: Uh to make these type of decisions. [1:47:02, 1:47:09]: uh that kind of information is needed. And I think we sort of talked about that before. But let me ask Mr. Eric, because I'm trying to [1:47:09, 1:47:20]: recall during the recent uh budget retreat uh in your bill and uh maintenance budget uh that you include any of this? [1:47:21, 1:47:30]: That uh the last conversation I had with the city manager, we did some changes to the budget to account for if we were financing this. [1:47:31, 1:47:31]: This project. [1:47:33, 1:47:35]: To make those annual payments. [1:47:37, 1:47:47]: So if if I go back and and and revisit the what you presented at the budget retreat, I will be able to see some uh detailed information. [1:47:47, 1:47:49]: In your presentation. [1:47:49, 1:47:56]: There's a line item in the budget in the government buildings budget that says security upgrades. That's what that would be. [1:47:58, 1:48:02]: But in your presentation, you did not elaborate per se. [1:48:03, 1:48:15]: No, sir, because this, like I said, this has been going on for two years and prior to the city manager leaving, we finally got to go ahead and I guess Mr. Berry reviewed it to put this item on the agenda. [1:48:16, 1:48:17]: to move forward with. [1:48:19, 1:48:23]: So that's why it wasn't presented during the budget presentation. [1:48:25, 1:48:27]: Okay, well I I won't [1:48:27, 1:48:32]: further that discussion. But I I'll talk with you about this later. But as I sort of alluded to [1:48:33, 1:48:43]: And I know we've sort of talked about this before. See, in order for us to make these decisions, uh, we have to have this information. And I think staff. [1:48:43, 1:48:45]: Uh has to [1:48:45, 1:48:48]: become aware of that at some point in time. [1:48:48, 1:48:50]: That you know, you have to provide information. [1:48:51, 1:49:02]: Uh and we could call you up, you know, before the meeting if we had the information to be able to digest. So I'm just recommending that, you know, in the future, and I know we've said this before. [1:49:02, 1:49:06]: Just, you know, give us more information so we can make informed decisions. [1:49:06, 1:49:08]: I yield back, Mayor, and thank you, Mr. Aaron. [1:49:09, 1:49:09]: No problem. [1:49:11, 1:49:16]: Thank you, sir. No problem. Uh okay, so motion's been made, been seconded. There's no further discussion. [1:49:16, 1:49:26]: I do have one point I'd like to make, Mayor, just very quickly, is that you know we it was brought up tonight that we don't want to go down to 125 uh 25% fund balance. [1:49:27, 1:49:30]: We have a hundred and fifty percent fund balance right now. [1:49:31, 1:49:36]: Okay, let's contrast that. Henry County has a twenty-five percent. [1:49:36, 1:49:37]: Fun balance. [1:49:38, 1:49:39]: plan that they go to. [1:49:39, 1:49:51]: I don't suggest we go to that, but we're nowhere near the basis. The Georgia Municipal Association recommends the 25% fund balance as a minimum as well. [1:49:51, 1:49:56]: So not only are we above that, we're about seven times above that. [1:49:57, 1:50:02]: That that tells you, okay, we are in a financial position to be able to do something about that. [1:50:02, 1:50:07]: So in essence, again, we should move forward with this. So call for the vote. Thank you. [1:50:08, 1:50:11]: No problem. Motion has been made in a second. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:50:13, 1:50:16]: Yes, so Mr. Blonde, are you voting, sir? [1:50:19, 1:50:26]: Are you voting, Mr. Blount? This is this is to revisit it. Yes. Yes, sir. So it's a unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [1:50:26, 1:50:33]: Okay, we're gonna now go on to uh matter of fact, uh Mr. Will Bush. Thank you for being here, sir. Uh you can stay as long as you like. Appreciate it. [1:50:34, 1:50:51]: Uh we're now going to public hearing and rezoning case RZ202021-01 has been postponed for at least 30 days based on the applicant. So we're now going to go into the first reading, council consideration uh to approve the Unified Development Code UDC. [1:50:51, 1:51:11]: City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge Mayor and City Council review the community development department's proposed new Unified Development Code, UDC, which includes the city's zoning code, the new UDC, will comprise both of up an update and rewriting of the existing UDC for the purposes one, making needed corrections and clarifications. [1:51:11, 1:51:17]: Two, revisiting the allowable zoning districts in the city. Three, making the document more user-friendly. [1:51:17, 1:51:19]: Ms. Johnson, please. [1:51:25, 1:51:28]: Good evening, everyone. Can you all hear me all right? [1:51:28, 1:51:48]: We have you hear we hear you now. Awesome. Thank you, Mayor Ford, Council members and residents and colleagues. So yes, we are finally bringing the UDC to you all formally for the first public hearing. We wanted to bring it as a first reading for to collect comments from the council members here. [1:51:48, 1:51:57]: uh and also the public and then come back for a second reading and and um subsequent approval in the october 26th. [1:51:57, 1:51:59]: meeting coming up in a few weeks. [1:52:00, 1:52:08]: So the process for the UDC has been underway for the past 11 months. It started in November of last year. I came on board in April. [1:52:08, 1:52:13]: And have uh been able to to kind of pick things up and work with a consultant to [1:52:13, 1:52:20]: um uh obtain public input, input from our staff, input from our planning commission, and this council. [1:52:21, 1:52:31]: Uh at this point, the Planning Commission has approved to move forward and recommend approval of the document as of September 23rd, 2021. [1:52:31, 1:52:42]: It is currently under legal review and thanks. I appreciate each of the council members and planning commissioner members for the one-on-one meetings so that we can get your specific input. [1:52:42, 1:52:51]: and incorporate that into the code. You won't see those changes in the version you have today because we've had this is a working document. [1:52:51, 1:53:03]: And this will be a working document between now and adoption. So um I'll go ahead and let Ms. Casey Kurzik from our consultant team, the collaborative firm. [1:53:03, 1:53:10]: go ahead with the presentation and we'll I may step in here and there during the presentation, but over to you, Casey. [1:53:10, 1:53:30]: Perfect. Thank you so much, Recca. And thank you, Mayor and Council members, for allowing us to be here tonight. This has been a very exciting process. I know you all have been with us from step one. So we are in the final stretch here. So if it's okay, I'm going to share my screen. [1:53:30, 1:53:50]: screen and we will kind of kick off the presentation because really the purpose for tonight is really to conduct a public hearing. So we want to make sure that all of the residents have the most updated information. I know we met um through your uh council retreat and then also met [1:53:50, 1:54:10]: With seven several of the members just last week. So as Miss Bruca said, this is currently um being updated daily to incorporate all of those um comments we received and just kind of improving on some of the sections that we already had written. So if you recall, we have [1:54:10, 1:54:30]: Several bullets that we've really tried to identify through this entire process. And that is to improve organization and user friendliness for all users. So that's staff, that's council members, that's planning commission, that's residents, that's engineers, architects, everyone. Update the zoning and overlay decisions. [1:54:30, 1:54:38]: Districts, integrate those architectural and site design requirements, and define and streamline those review processes. [1:54:38, 1:54:58]: Now we do have a little bit of a new UDC organization, which we've talked about a little bit before. And that's really because your previous organization really kind of held all of the zoning and the site development regulations and even a lot of those stormwater and traffic regulations in two to three different sections. [1:54:58, 1:55:17]: So we just wanted to kind of do a little bit of a reorganization. So when people are looking for information, you know, even if it's as simple as they want to build a fence in their backyard, or if it could be as great as a plan development, multi-stories, multiple lots, that they will be able to find all the information. [1:55:17, 1:55:21]: Um, so I want to kind of kick off with the zoning districts itself. [1:55:22, 1:55:42]: Currently, you have 19 zoning districts within your zoning code, primarily those residential uses, commercial uses, industrial uses, and mixed use. Throughout this process, we've really identified some districts that are really kind of have similar [1:55:42, 1:55:51]: standards. There may not be a high demand for such things as the rural residential anymore. And we've also looked at combining [1:55:52, 1:56:11]: some districts expanding certain districts and uses because we do have more going on especially in the realm of housing opportunities and then also creating new districts. So if we go to the next one you'll kind of see let me move everyone's face so I can read through these. [1:56:12, 1:56:20]: What we did is this is kind of this is actually in your zoning code, and we have um really regulated and spelled out where the [1:56:20, 1:56:32]: um districts were combined. So your RA and your R1, which are your single family districts, will become your new rural residential districts, still having a minimum standard of one acre. [1:56:32, 1:56:52]: Your R2 and R3 have been combined into a suburban residential district. You probably know most of these as kind of your 1990, maybe early 2000 build-outs of your single-family homes, really coming in about maybe 30,000 square feet. And then your residential. [1:56:52, 1:57:12]: Duplex district was really a little underutilized. So what we did is really kind of expand the uses here. And we'll talk a little bit more about that. But that's going to allow different types of housing, kind of a smaller lot footprint, and more specific areas in the city that those can be used. [1:57:12, 1:57:32]: comes to your multifamily, you actually had multiple districts. And it really seemed like the one that was being heavily used was your RM district. So we really combined all of those to create one multifamily district with guidelines. All the other districts tend to be a little bit the same. We did create a new down [1:57:32, 1:57:52]: Downtown zoning district for you. And we'll talk about that shortly. And then we did take a look at your mixed use districts and how they were being utilized. And what we found is you really have a lot of planned unit developments out there that you were really kind of missing a zoning district for. So we wanted to clean that up for you. [1:57:52, 1:57:59]: And that would be allowed to have mixed use across the land or even vertical in the buildings. [1:58:00, 1:58:20]: Now, here's kind of the new exciting things. Um, we do have a two-page layout for each zone district. Um, I know uh for staff, I think this will be a great help. Um, they can actually go to just two pages in the code. This will help developers. So you'll have your district intents, all of the permitted uses that. [1:58:20, 1:58:21]: That are allowed. [1:58:21, 1:58:40]: Any conditional uses or accessory uses all spelled out. And then the second page will also have those minimum lot area requirements, the lot frontage requirements, your front yard, side yard, rear yard setback, some height requirements, and the minimum lot coverage. [1:58:41, 1:59:01]: Now, in addition to that, which I know staff is really excited about, we also created a use table. So what this does is if you're kind of in our planning world, everyone will either ask us the question because they know where their property is, they know exactly what their property address is, and they just [1:59:01, 1:59:03]: want to know what they can build there. [1:59:03, 1:59:23]: Which you would use the previous table on. But sometimes people come with their use. Let's just say it's a restaurant, and they want to know what districts they should be looking for when they work with their real estate agent. So this here is going to show all of those specific uses, whether they're permitted, conditional uses, or [1:59:23, 1:59:42]: accessory uses within each zoning district. And then also if there's any additional regulations that they have to know about, maybe it's a distance requirement or fencing requirements or outdoor storage, then they'll know exactly which section to go to. [1:59:43, 2:00:03]: Um, as we talked about, the one new thing that came out of all of the discussions we heard, especially in the public arena, was the need for a true downtown Main Street zoning district. Um, you have your downtown Main Street area. Of course, you guys are working very hard on your amphitheater, your cultural arts center. You obviously have your new buildings and courts. And so we've [2:00:03, 2:00:23]: Really just wanted to expand on that a little more. You do have the overlay that's still in place in downtown, but really honing in on that downtown specific and making sure that the uses you want to have down there can be there by right. Those are going to be your apparel and retail stores, your bakery. [2:00:23, 2:00:43]: In your cafes, certain day spas, possible breweries, ice cream stores, professional offices, things of that nature. And then the one thing we did build in, because we know, you know, other things can happen, is that there can be residential on the upper stories of these existing. [2:00:43, 2:00:54]: for new bills that may come. And then we also added in um some additional options for housing when it comes to duplexes, triplexes, and quadruplexes. [2:00:54, 2:01:14]: Your downtown is getting more walkable every day, every time the city has a new venture that connects these things. So we want to make sure that we have people down there who can walk around and enjoy. And it's not just always we have to come and we have to park. Um, and those would be allowed through good conditional use permits. So you can really determine exactly where. [2:01:14, 2:01:17]: where they're most appropriate places for that location. [2:01:19, 2:01:27]: And then when it comes to that zoning district, um, we really focused on just placing that new zoning district. [2:01:27, 2:01:44]: on those existing buildings in the downtown that exist. Those are going to be your uh civic buildings, your recreation areas, and then of course um the the primary businesses in the downtown will carry that zoning. [2:01:46, 2:02:06]: And then we were talking previously about the expanded uses in the residential district. Right now you just allowed in that city center district to have single family homes or duplexes. But we also wanted to allow some additional options, and those would be for triplexes, quadruplexes. [2:02:06, 2:02:23]: I know a big discussion right now are accessory dwellings. So if you and I can think about that, that might be if you have an in-law, whether it be in the house or in the rear of the yard, we've actually spelled out some requirements for that. And also making sure that there's a place for senior housing. [2:02:23, 2:02:31]: Um, to make sure that they can have the benefits of these areas where they can walk and dine and shop and enjoy their time. [2:02:33, 2:02:53]: Now, when it comes to the PD district, like I said, we actually combined three of your districts here to create your plan development. And this will allow a combination of uses, whether they're horizontal or vertical. It's going to promote the most flexibility in the development standards. [2:02:53, 2:03:13]: A lot of the city is built out, but you do have areas where we've we've heard from developers they just need a little more flexibility, whether it's just a kind of a setback standard or really they kind of have a new idea coming in. Primarily it could be focused even on senior housing and facilities that. [2:03:12, 2:03:32]: That could utilize that. And we're really hoping this would be a catalyst for new development and even redevelopment patterns in the city. As we know, there's a lot of things exploding and going on in the south side specifically. So as development comes, we really want to arm you with flexibility, but also with [2:03:32, 2:03:38]: with the control that you guys need to get the development that you want in the end. [2:03:40, 2:04:00]: Now we also did spell out a kind of a new process for this plan development district. So what would happen is if a developer would come in, they would come in with their preliminary concept plans that would have to be reviewed by planning commission, city council. And of course, your city staff would have comments and reviews. [2:04:00, 2:04:20]: on that. And if that concept is ultimately approved by you as the mayor and city council, then what they would be required to do is put together their full master development plan. So this is really going to spell out the specifics a little more engineering detailed, will actually specifically know building envelopes, what the [2:04:19, 2:04:28]: The setbacks are, what the exact uses will be in properties and things like that. And those will then be conditioned to that site. [2:04:30, 2:04:50]: And then I know this is um kind of a separate item, but I do want to make sure that you can actually see the um new zoning map here. So what we did is we really took your existing zoning map and then we looked at the areas that were being combined or potentially those areas that were being created new, especially when it came to the down. [2:04:50, 2:04:54]: downtown area and then we created a new map for you. [2:04:56, 2:05:07]: Another thing that came up time after time again was your overlay districts. Um, and also um we heard a lot of discussions about [2:05:07, 2:05:15]: Joe designers that are actually linked per zoning to a piece of property down there at Johtoco, as you're aware. [2:05:15, 2:05:33]: So when we looked at those overlay districts, you actually have three of them: the High Rise District, the Highway 138 district, and the Highway Corridor District. What we really saw is there's actual areas in the city where a property can be in all three of these, which [2:05:34, 2:05:54]: There isn't real guidance on which one should supersede. And the purpose of an overlay is that these are additional standards based upon the existing zoning district. So what we did is we began to look at them and we began to really combine those districts. [2:05:54, 2:06:14]: And we really wanted to focus on allowing that mixed-use development by right. We also wanted to make sure that properties where they would have the benefit, especially closer to the interstate and access that would be easier, that they could uh benefit from increased heights compared to other areas in the city. [2:06:14, 2:06:26]: And we also spelled out some reduction of parking, really more shared parking is what we're calling this. So when you do have a true mixed use development, you have different things that are happening all at different times. So [2:06:27, 2:06:31]: As residential, maybe out in the workforce. I know that's changing a little bit now. [2:06:32, 2:06:52]: From home. But you're also going to have restaurants and shopping and dining where people will just be walking instead of driving to and moving every step where they drive and where they visit. And then also including landscaping, lighting, architectural materials, things of all that. And we really went back and focused more. [2:06:52, 2:07:12]: Or on the guidelines that you had originally adopted recently on the, I believe it's, well, I'm not sure the name of it now, but I know it was called Jodoko Station at one time. I feel like I might not have the right one right now. But looking at what the staff and the city already approved there and really building upon. [2:07:12, 2:07:13]: On that. [2:07:14, 2:07:23]: And then if you can see in the green, those are going to be the new proposed overlay district standards and locations. [2:07:25, 2:07:45]: Um, and then if you recall, we did talk about creating that new downtown district. And you do have a downtown village overlay district, which was really just your historic downtown area. And we really kept that in place. We didn't want to convert every single parcel to that downtown one because you actually have a good variety and mix of. [2:07:44, 2:08:04]: Of residential, commercial, institutional, and actually a whole lot of recreation and open space. So we really wanted to keep that balance. So we did keep that overlay district, making sure that the permitted uses are still impact, allowing outside dining and special events, honing in on the architectural. [2:08:04, 2:08:14]: features and those permitted colors and materials, keeping the streetscape, the parking lot locations, and the height and the bulk standards. [2:08:16, 2:08:18]: Now this is the one thing that's a little new. [2:08:19, 2:08:39]: Um and what we did is when we did look at combining some of the overlays, we realized that you still have main corridors and we wanted to make sure that you could still feel that architectural fabric. You would know you're in the city of Stockbridge driving through it. [2:08:39, 2:08:59]: So, what we did is we really updated and almost created true citywide development standards for you. So, these are going to be architectural requirements on residential uses, on mixed-use buildings, and commercial buildings. And once again, we based a lot of this tech. [2:08:59, 2:09:19]: Technical design standards on those Jodico design guidelines. Also making sure that there's open space, outdoor lighting, and then that all of new construction on major highways will be required to have a 10-feet wide pedestrian travel zone and a 10-feet wide. [2:09:19, 2:09:27]: Feet wide planning fixture. And if you can really imagine that in your head, I know we talk a lot about what these words are, but that's really building your streetscape. [2:09:28, 2:09:43]: You know, so as you're driving the ro down the road, you would see the street trees, the lighting poles, the sidewalks. And then you would also have those architectural components from the um commercial buildings or residential buildings or whatever is being built in that area. [2:09:44, 2:10:04]: Um, kind of more a little bit of some housekeeping items. Um, we did review all of your zoning processes. Um, those are the ones you you handle every single day. We're actually part of this process right now. I know Breca and your planning commission are all on top of it regularly. And those are your rezonings, your conditional use permits, comprehensive. [2:10:04, 2:10:15]: of plans, text amendments, and variances. We really just reviewed and updated these as needed just to create some consistency throughout all the processes. [2:10:15, 2:10:16]: And make them harmonious. [2:10:18, 2:10:31]: Um, one new section um that we really did uh rewrite from scratch was actually your tree protection ordinance. Um I'm not sure if you knew this before, but they were really just a paper copy that were in the clerk's. [2:10:32, 2:10:43]: um office. So we really went through and looked at those industry standards and we spelled out the specifics on you know what an applicant needs to provide when it comes to the tree survey. [2:10:44, 2:10:48]: how they need to provide to protect those trees that they are willing to keep. [2:10:49, 2:11:09]: Um and also making sure that there are density and tree replacement requirements. So the idea is that no one can just come in and completely clear-cut a site. There will be trees that remain. There may be trees that they'll have to replant depending on what they remove. Just so you can keep that tree. [2:11:09, 2:11:14]: canopy and areas and then of course those um final inspection processes [2:11:15, 2:11:35]: Um, another one that really wasn't so clearly defined was your subdivision regulations. So we really went back through and really created those for you. And those are going to be your preliminary plat process, which you do all the time. So staff already knows how to do it. So you don't have to worry about that, but we really solidified it within the community. [2:11:35, 2:11:55]: code itself, the final plat process. And then we also built in the requirements that you had and some additional ones that we've been talking about when it comes to open space requirements, amenities in subdivisions, lighting in subdivisions, and things like that, just to make it clear within the code. [2:11:56, 2:12:16]: Um, your and you have another section that's all of your environmental protection. And really, what we did here is made sure that you met all of the federal and state standards. We really wanted to make sure you that you had overall compliance. So those are your soil erosion and sedimentation controls, uh, your floodplains, your stream bottoms. [2:12:16, 2:12:20]: offers your stormwater management and your illicit discharge. [2:12:21, 2:12:31]: Um and then one other thing that we really had to kind of really rewrite, but you you the code actually referenced Henry County standards. [2:12:32, 2:12:52]: But what we found is those standards have kind of been updated over the past two decades. We won't talk about how long. Um, but um your code reference data that was actually in the mid-90s. So we really went and we looked at what the the county codes were, and then we really adapted them and created them for. [2:12:52, 2:12:57]: you in the city of Stockbridge. So this is going to be your true roadway design and construction. [2:12:57, 2:13:13]: Um, when traffic studies should be implemented, access requirements, visibility, pedestrian access and sidewalks, street names, street lights. So now everything is in the code and everyone will be able to find it. [2:13:14, 2:13:20]: Um so here we are tonight. I know we met with several, so we do have um some [2:13:20, 2:13:40]: Some ordinances that we are updating from the comments received last week. And I believe we already have a meeting set with the attorneys on Thursday. So we will keep trucking along. Um, but the real purpose for here tonight is just to hear and open any public comment that may be out there. Um, because you know, I I promise you, and Miss Brecka knows this already. [2:13:40, 2:14:00]: We will be making changes probably right up to that solidification adoption date, which we currently have planned for October 26th. And that's okay though, because your ordinances should always be looked at and reviewed. And we really just want to make sure we get all of those items during this adoption. [2:14:00, 2:14:09]: And flush those all out from you as the counsel, from city staff, from the attorneys, and of course from the public, because we have engaged them this entire time. [2:14:10, 2:14:12]: So with that being said. [2:14:12, 2:14:16]: I'll I'll turn it back over to you, Mr. Mayer, I believe. [2:14:16, 2:14:23]: Thank you, KC. I appreciate your presentation. Council, any questions for KC? I see what okay, I see Mayor Potem, you're on muted. Go ahead, sir. [2:14:24, 2:14:33]: Yeah, I certainly appreciate that and I certainly appreciate the process, but in doing what we're doing, we we need to give a little bit more information to the public. [2:14:33, 2:14:36]: Because we get questions uh on a regular basis. [2:14:37, 2:14:40]: But I know this is already in there, so it's gonna be repetitive for you. [2:14:40, 2:14:42]: Sure. [2:14:42, 2:14:43]: What do we do about [2:14:44, 2:14:45]: You know. [2:14:45, 2:14:47]: Uh when uh properties are [2:14:47, 2:14:55]: dilapidated properties are are in and and how are they being dealt with? How are we getting to uh zero tolerance? [2:14:55, 2:14:56]: For [2:14:56, 2:14:58]: For businesses along corridors like [2:14:59, 2:15:03]: North Henry that are substandard, what are we doing to impact them? [2:15:03, 2:15:06]: Uh to move to a situation where [2:15:06, 2:15:09]: That behaviour is being corrected. [2:15:09, 2:15:14]: whether then that whether then being allowed to permeate or continue. [2:15:14, 2:15:16]: Let's talk about that. [2:15:16, 2:15:20]: Things like again, uh, you know, when you go in a shopping center parking lot. [2:15:20, 2:15:22]: And it's completely littered. [2:15:22, 2:15:25]: And and the parking lot has potholes in it. [2:15:25, 2:15:29]: Talk about those things that the public see every day. [2:15:29, 2:15:32]: And how and breck could probably be one to answer this and how [2:15:32, 2:15:35]: This new code is designed to impact. [2:15:35, 2:15:36]: D stings. [2:15:36, 2:15:39]: uh in uh in moving us forward [2:15:39, 2:15:42]: Ту імпроводи квалів. [2:15:42, 2:15:46]: and actually hold uh uh businesses accountable. [2:15:46, 2:15:49]: And for the increased appearance of our city. [2:15:50, 2:16:01]: Sure, no problem. So oh go ahead, Ns Barka. Okay. Um so so thank great question, um, and good to point out is it's kind of a two-pronged process. [2:16:01, 2:16:05]: So initially with the code we would set up um [2:16:05, 2:16:06]: We call [2:16:07, 2:16:08]: Awesome. So it's [2:16:08, 2:16:09]: Okay, okay. [2:16:11, 2:16:11]: Uh. [2:16:13, 2:16:15]: There's more time to come to roll. [2:16:16, 2:16:17]: There we go. [2:16:17, 2:16:18]: The folk park. [2:16:19, 2:16:20]: It's on you. [2:16:21, 2:16:21]: Maybe. [2:16:25, 2:16:27]: Miss pro Miss Johnson is going in and out. [2:16:27, 2:16:28]: I can't hear. [2:16:30, 2:16:33]: The shots you're going in and out. We kinda you lose the connection and you come back. [2:16:34, 2:16:35]: Um [2:16:35, 2:16:37]: Looks like you're frozen right now, actually. [2:16:46, 2:16:47]: Oh. [2:16:49, 2:16:51]: Bear with me for one moment. [2:16:53, 2:16:53]: Right. [2:16:56, 2:16:57]: Can you hear me now? [2:16:57, 2:17:01]: Hear you now, hopefully you'll stay there. [2:17:04, 2:17:05]: You muted. [2:17:21, 2:17:24]: Okay. Can you all hear me now? Yes, we can hear you now. Good deal. [2:17:29, 2:17:32]: Now it looks like you're frozen again. No, see muted. [2:17:33, 2:17:37]: I think she's trying to call from her phone, but she muted the phone as well. [2:17:40, 2:17:42]: Yes, um with a two prom [2:17:43, 2:17:47]: laws in which we are going to ensure that bring their property into compliance. [2:17:48, 2:17:59]: Additionally, our code enforcement process makes it so that we are continuing to manage our major [2:17:59, 2:18:03]: corridors throughout the city. Can you also hear me? [2:18:03, 2:18:04]: Go ahead, please. Go ahead. [2:18:04, 2:18:06]: We can hear you now. Go ahead. Okay. [2:18:08, 2:18:21]: Super. So we make it so the code enforcement effort makes it where we will ensure that we are continuing to monitor our major thoroughfares like North Henry Boulevard and 138 Eagles Landing and [2:18:22, 2:18:26]: looking at all the other all the businesses within those areas. [2:18:26, 2:18:37]: One of the things that I'm looking to implement and bring after we come conclude the UDC and zoning map process is to really look at our fee schedule. [2:18:38, 2:18:51]: We currently do not have a fee schedule in place for code enforcement, which means that we aren't able to enforce any type of additional fees for repeat offenders, folks who are either out of state, who are not complying with the code. [2:18:51, 2:19:11]: But we are going to go through the process to change that and bring that before you all. So we've got to look at it's a multifaceted process. Additionally, working with economic development for some opportunities for grants, for facade improvements. These are all things that we're working to ensure. [2:19:11, 2:19:16]: but that we're able to create a situation where people can update. [2:19:16, 2:19:27]: all of what they need to in order to um to bring properties under current compliance with the code. So that's that is that is what our goal is going forward. [2:19:28, 2:19:28]: Yeah. [2:19:30, 2:19:30]: Yeah. [2:19:31, 2:19:35]: Uh any other questions for uh Miss Johnson or for K C [2:19:38, 2:19:41]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. See I see you now, sir. Go ahead. [2:19:41, 2:19:43]: Thank you, thank you. [2:19:43, 2:19:44]: Um [2:19:44, 2:19:46]: I just wanna say um [2:19:47, 2:20:07]: I'm so appreciative of this process. I've advocated for this for about four years. And it took us to a point to get this. And where I'm going with this is um I've sort of been speaking about some of these issues. And Ms. Johnson, as you know, just in the last couple of days. [2:20:07, 2:20:14]: Uh Mayor Ford and I had a conversation with you about an issue that was um [2:20:15, 2:20:19]: Within the neighborhood that had been in in existence for about [2:20:19, 2:20:20]: Three weeks in [2:20:21, 2:20:23]: And you know, we didn't get a chance to cover that, but [2:20:24, 2:20:26]: The the point of my conversation is [2:20:27, 2:20:31]: And I want uh you and uh Ms. Ms. Cursis sort of speak to this. [2:20:32, 2:20:37]: When I look at the future of the sід of Stockbridge. [2:20:37, 2:20:42]: And the reason why I advocated for this process because I do understand [2:20:42, 2:20:44]: That we have to [2:20:44, 2:20:45]: Um [2:20:45, 2:20:46]: Create [2:20:47, 2:20:48]: The framework [2:20:48, 2:20:50]: And the twos [2:20:50, 2:20:52]: Ти то муви сити форва. [2:20:53, 2:20:53]: Um [2:20:55, 2:21:03]: We know that when developers come and we, you know, we've we've gone in and out of moratoriums, we've gone in and out of parking in the street. [2:21:03, 2:21:10]: Uh we didn't have the enforcement piece to it. We didn't have the touring piece to it. Um [2:21:10, 2:21:18]: You know, there was always holes uh in this process. And so I'm excited about this because again. [2:21:19, 2:21:23]: Um, and I advocate for planning for the future. [2:21:23, 2:21:26]: And I and I think this document here. [2:21:26, 2:21:31]: gives us, gives the city of Starkbridge that up to date. [2:21:31, 2:21:47]: um um framework in order for us to uh grow this city. Uh and then I'm excited about that. And the reason I'm sort of harping on this because um you know there's been some forums here recently um [2:21:48, 2:21:50]: Um in the community and [2:21:51, 2:21:52]: There is a notion. [2:21:53, 2:21:55]: Детисен [2:21:56, 2:21:58]: don't have an input into [2:21:59, 2:22:04]: uh what's going on in the city. And I just want you all to sort of to to speak to [2:22:04, 2:22:05]: Um [2:22:05, 2:22:25]: And I know you, you know, you you have done this before. So excuse me for asking you to do this again, but there are probably some citizens that that missed this because again, you know, uh this is some of the rhetoric that we hear that citizens don't have an input into these processes. And and we sort of know. And I [2:22:25, 2:22:45]: I know you all have done your due diligence in making sure that we've had the uh the hearing session. And just like tonight, you know, public hearing. So citizens do have an opportunity to have to be a part of this, but I just want you to sort of speak again uh to the uh process of citizens. [2:22:45, 2:22:51]: having input uh into these processes. And so I'll just talk about. [2:22:51, 2:22:59]: The reason why we are updating uh this code because we have to have these things in place in order for us to. [2:23:00, 2:23:18]: go forward and to build the city correctly. And as this document has to coincide with the comprehensive plan. So all of these things sort of go in together. And now Ms. Johnson, you may have said something earlier about, you know, there are a lot of pieces to the puzzle. [2:23:18, 2:23:22]: But I'm I'm excited about this, but I think we need to let the citizens. [2:23:22, 2:23:41]: understand and educate them just a little bit more of what this process entailed and how we are planning for the future. And once this document is updated, then when developers come and as we mentioned about the code enforcement piece and parking in the street and all these other things. [2:23:41, 2:24:01]: These are the tools, these are the entities that's going to be in place for us to really to grow and to build. So I just want to just dispel the notion that uh citizens do not have an input uh into this process and just talk about maybe you know the the purpose and the reason. [2:24:01, 2:24:05]: reason uh for this type of document, if you will. [2:24:07, 2:24:16]: Absolutely, Councilman Thomas. So thank you so much for that statement and for the support from you and from the other council members. [2:24:16, 2:24:29]: during this process. It's been a long kind of a long process. I know uh case can speak to um the specific meetings and um her involvement with the steering committee prior to my coming on board. [2:24:30, 2:24:38]: But we really have spent quite a bit of time trying to ensure that the customers know what's going on. And when I'm on the phone with a customer, [2:24:38, 2:24:42]: And I have my staff on the phone, we're talking about we have a new code coming. [2:24:42, 2:24:44]: And there are specific things that [2:24:45, 2:24:52]: You know, people have concerns about like fences, like parking on the street, like the width of the road, things like that we have. [2:24:55, 2:24:57]: To be very spot on and too. [2:24:58, 2:25:12]: And the public has been a part of this from the start. I'll kind of let Casey elaborate a little bit more on the specifics and how we have it set up for the zoning process to take place. [2:25:12, 2:25:32]: Sure, thank you very much. So we actually held three large community meetings and we also had a uh steering committee that was really representatives from the cities. Um so that was your engineers, your building officials, your planners of course. [2:25:32, 2:25:52]: Um the previous city manager was on that. And um right, wrong, or indifferent, I know nobody wants to believe it because I love zoning, but nobody really thinks of zoning. You know, who wakes up in the morning and thinks, oh, there's, you know, this this large book of words that I have to read about how my house is designed. [2:25:52, 2:26:12]: But really, it is the framework for what people will see, residents, just passers through of the city, on what they will see when that development happens. Unfortunately, we can't actually control property itself. You know, if we had a large expense account, you know, you could go buy the [2:26:12, 2:26:27]: Those lands and build exactly what it is. But through our public process, we really wanted to not only engage your citizens, but really educate them on the importance of zoning, because a process that may come in tomorrow. [2:26:27, 2:26:35]: Um may not even begin construction for another year, depending on the size of the development and those review processes. [2:26:36, 2:26:36]: So [2:26:37, 2:26:57]: Even through our first public meeting, we made sure that we engaged residents, that we really asked them um simple questions. And this may sound really simple, but you know, when it comes to dining, when it comes to shopping, you know, where do they go? If they're not shopping in Stockbridge or Henry County, where are they going? Because that kind of leads us to believe that they're [2:26:57, 2:27:17]: There's something missing. And of course, you're, you heard it. You're many of you were with us there. And I know we presented about the findings of the community. You know, they want those restaurants, they want those retail experiences. They want to have entertainment for kids, for adults, um, for everyone. They want to be able [2:27:17, 2:27:37]: To walk. They also um your residents were really involved in thinking and forward thinking at that about housing options and what they saw the future to be. Um so not only did we engage them on just simple questions of that, we actually pulled them through real visual pressure and surveys, you know, if we had this kind. [2:27:37, 2:27:57]: Commercial development, which architectural style do you like best? And as we went through that whole process, you'll see that really everything we focused on really got incorporated into these new regulations and updated regulations throughout this entire process. [2:27:57, 2:28:17]: And really the uh new zoning districts really came out of what we heard from the public so far about really focusing on the downtown. Everybody knew the amphitheater was coming. They could see it under construction, so it was still sharp in their mind. Um, and now you've reached that situation where it's open. So now it's really just adding those. [2:28:16, 2:28:36]: additional tools um looking at the properties around it how they could benefit from it what those transportation networks may look like what your streetscape may work like and how people would actually walk and access these places um so i know it's kind of hard um to really define sometimes because you're really [2:28:36, 2:28:38]: Really talking about [2:28:38, 2:28:50]: regulations that you may not ultimately be able to see on land, you know, tomorrow it could be five years down the road, but we're really focused on making sure that um [2:28:51, 2:29:11]: The city is recognized that when you come into the city, you know you've arrived in the city of Stockbridge. And you're not really wondering: oh, am I an unincorporated Henry? Am I another jurisdiction? And really making sure that it flows. And also understanding that there are new. [2:29:11, 2:29:19]: Types of commercial businesses. There are new types of constructions occurring everywhere. And we really want to make it um [2:29:20, 2:29:38]: uh easy i i say easy but really beneficial for both a developer and the city to get that higher standard of development that you are looking and searching and placing all of the importance in this code for. And we heard that throughout the public process. [2:29:38, 2:29:39]: Right. [2:29:39, 2:29:58]: Uh lastly, Mayor, if I may, uh is Mr. Aaron still on the call? Uh yes, he's still there. Um uh Mrs. Johnson, um, you don't have to elaborate on this, but the issue that um Mayor Ford and I brought to you a couple of days ago. [2:29:58, 2:30:01]: Um samwe samhao. [2:30:02, 2:30:05]: You know, we have to be able to catch. [2:30:05, 2:30:07]: Those kind of situations. [2:30:07, 2:30:09]: Uh that situation. [2:30:10, 2:30:10]: Um [2:30:11, 2:30:15]: had been in existence for about three weeks or a month. [2:30:15, 2:30:25]: And and no one from the city caught that. And I pointed out a a couple others. And I the reason I asked for Mr. Aaron, I know a few years ago. [2:30:25, 2:30:28]: А ви пчес. [2:30:29, 2:30:31]: And it was indicated then that [2:30:31, 2:30:32]: Um [2:30:32, 2:30:35]: This vehicle would be available. [2:30:35, 2:30:36]: To [2:30:37, 2:30:38]: Um catch. [2:30:38, 2:30:45]: uh some of those kind of situation miss johns you don't really have to get into this now you know if if you don't want to but [2:30:45, 2:30:47]: My only concern is [2:30:48, 2:30:50]: We have to have a presence. [2:30:50, 2:30:54]: And I and I know we're moving toward an adoption of this document. [2:30:55, 2:30:56]: But we still have to [2:30:57, 2:31:07]: uh exist, we still have to function. We still have to do what we need to do every day until this is adopted. So my concern is [2:31:08, 2:31:10]: We have to be able to catch. [2:31:11, 2:31:14]: These kind of incidents that that was existing. [2:31:14, 2:31:28]: For at least a month. And there may be others out there now because it is a reflection on all of us. And uh citizen was really upset about this particular incident and reading I asked for Mr. Aaron. [2:31:28, 2:31:29]: Um [2:31:29, 2:31:44]: Ms. Johnson, you and Mr. Aaron probably need to talk and talk about these kinds of situations because someone, uh whether it's public works, code enforcement, or a combination of both, have to take action. [2:31:44, 2:32:04]: uh to alleviate and to eradicate uh these kind of situations uh in the community and i'm sure miss johnson you went by and looked at that so you you saw the the um the gravity of that kind of situation that had been existing in the community so i'm going to close with that but i just want to [2:32:04, 2:32:09]: bring that to your attention in closing that we cannot let these kind of situation [2:32:10, 2:32:11]: Um just [2:32:12, 2:32:15]: You know, just just be there. We have to take action. [2:32:16, 2:32:16]: Thank you, Mayor. [2:32:17, 2:32:20]: Welcome, sir. Uh any other comments from the council? [2:32:22, 2:32:23]: Anybody else? [2:32:24, 2:32:32]: Okay, I won't see anybody at this at this time. All righty. So this is actually a this is actually a open a public uh hearing. [2:32:33, 2:32:53]: So what I'd like to do is on this particular topic, uh this first reading of the unified development code, I'd like to open up for any public comments if there's anybody online or ready in or in this or I guess standing by to make any uh comments for the UDC. And I I honestly I don't see those at this point. So I'm looking to [2:32:53, 2:33:13]: to UMs holiday and or our IT support to indicate whether or not there's someone that is uh in the in the queue at all. That's for this particular um UDC. There's no one in the Zoom queue, but um the PIO is monitoring Facebook as well for any questions. [2:33:13, 2:33:13]: Yeah. [2:33:13, 2:33:14]: Okay. [2:33:15, 2:33:18]: Well then if that's the case, uh then our PIO. [2:33:18, 2:33:30]: Um Shana, do you is there anybody that with anything that has anything uh for the public hearing that you can read or or somehow we can get that message uh for the positive in this aspect at all? [2:33:30, 2:33:33]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Not at this time, Mayor Ford. [2:33:33, 2:33:53]: Okay, if no comments on the positive side, then I'd like to open it up for anything on the negative side. Any comments per se that anybody would have against the UDC that that any anything that they want to say. Um so if Ms. Hallday you can't see that, I want to know from uh Miss Dorton whether or not there's anything on uh on on the uh on the website. [2:33:53, 2:33:58]: site or scream on Facebook or whatnot uh that is there to indicate any other comments. [2:33:58, 2:34:03]: On the negative side, same question for IT and PIO. [2:34:06, 2:34:06]: Anything at all? [2:34:09, 2:34:09]: No. [2:34:10, 2:34:11]: Okay. [2:34:11, 2:34:19]: And Miss Thornton, I'm imagining you have none as as well. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Not at this time. Okay, thank you. So on that note, then I'll close the public hearing. [2:34:19, 2:34:36]: And uh and council before uh this uh this is uh a reading, first reading, so we'll have another reading at the end of the month in our our council work session. So another comments from the council, and I'll move on to our next item for the public reading, uh our first reading. Okay, no other comments. All right, I'll move on. [2:34:36, 2:34:40]: This is the first reading. Council consideration approved City of Stockbridge adoption. [2:34:41, 2:34:42]: An official zoning map. [2:34:42, 2:34:59]: The City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge Mayor City Council reviewed the proposed official zoning map to be amended in conjunction with the Unified Development Code UDC, which includes the City Zoning Ordinance. This item will run concurrently with the UDC. Ms. Johnson, please. [2:35:01, 2:35:13]: Absolutely. Thank you, Mayor and Council. So this particular item is a um part B uh to uh A1 and part N A and B. [2:35:13, 2:35:33]: And this, what this is, is the zoning map, which officially we need to update in order to coincide with the new UDC. Of course, we stated we condensed our 19 zoning districts into 13. And we and within that 13, we created a downtown district. So the zoning map is just reflected. [2:35:33, 2:35:39]: It is our visual to actually reflect those new zoning districts. [2:35:39, 2:35:44]: the conversion of existing zoning districts. [2:35:44, 2:35:51]: So um I'm I'd I'll pass it along to Casey if she has anything to to add um to this presentation. [2:35:52, 2:36:12]: Thank you very much. Actually, you said it most eloquently. If we're adopting a new zoning ordinance that has new districts in it, we therefore have to make sure that your map matches correctly. So hopefully you can see that. That is the proposed new zoning map. [2:36:12, 2:36:25]: And that will actually incorporate all of the uh zoning districts and the overlays that uh we just talked about that are written in text. So this is essentially the equivalent of the map. [2:36:28, 2:36:33]: Okay, thank you. Any questions, counsel for uh uh Casey andor Ms. Johnson? [2:36:37, 2:36:46]: Yeah, I don't see any hands at this point. Uh anybody at all? Okay. Yeah, seeing none. Okay, so this once again is a public hearing. [2:36:46, 2:36:54]: For the first reading. So I'd like to open this up for any public comments for uh positive questions in reference to the zoning map. [2:36:55, 2:37:07]: Once again, ladies, uh Ms. Holiday or uh also um uh Miss Thornton, whether or not you see anything uh out there for someone that wants to make a positive comment, uh citizens, uh in reference to the zoning map itself. [2:37:08, 2:37:11]: Question to IT and P I O. [2:37:17, 2:37:20]: I T anything that you see? [2:37:21, 2:37:23]: Uh Miss Thornton, anything you see at all? [2:37:23, 2:37:25]: on a for a positive comment. [2:37:26, 2:37:27]: Mayor not at this time. [2:37:27, 2:37:43]: Okay, so now we'll go to any negative comments, whether or not there are any negative comments or comments that someone is apprehensive about us doing this, if they have anything they need to say. Is anything um on on that side or the negative side? Once again, IT and you know and the PIO. [2:37:49, 2:37:53]: Mayor Ford, this is public information officer, not at this time for Facebook. [2:37:54, 2:37:55]: Okay. [2:37:56, 2:37:56]: No. [2:37:56, 2:38:15]: Okay, all right, then thank you. So there are no positive for or against uh this aspect of the zoning map. So I'll close the public hearing and uh council. This is our first reading, so we'll have a second reading at the end of our end of the month. There are no further comments, we'll move on to the new business. And new business starts with council consideration. [2:38:15, 2:38:27]: To approve ratification of emergency information technology equipment purchased for the amphitheater complex in the amount of fifty one thousand two hundred ninety-three dollars and twenty cents from SHI. Mr. Wiggins, please. [2:38:29, 2:38:30]: Yes, um [2:38:31, 2:38:34]: Mayor and Council, the IT department is requesting ratification. [2:38:34, 2:38:36]: Of an emergency [2:38:36, 2:38:37]: IT purchase. [2:38:38, 2:38:40]: For the amphitheater complex. [2:38:40, 2:38:43]: The net were infrastructure in the amount of sixty one thousand. [2:38:44, 2:38:47]: Two hundred and ninety-three dollars and twenty cents from SHI. [2:38:48, 2:38:50]: The network equipment was critical. [2:38:52, 2:38:53]: Um to the opening. [2:38:54, 2:38:56]: It had it had um [2:38:57, 2:38:57]: Uh [2:38:58, 2:39:03]: Something to do with uh audio and TV, the security and the internet infrastructure. [2:39:06, 2:39:12]: And we're and we're asking for you just to ratif ratify because it was an emergency purchase at the time. [2:39:12, 2:39:21]: Well, uh Mr. Wiggins, just in case. Now, I I've I read what I had in front of me was fifty one thousand. I think you said sixty one. So which which is a correct number, sir? I just need clarification on that. [2:39:23, 2:39:26]: I have sixty one thousand two hundred and ninety-three dollars and twenty cents. [2:39:27, 2:39:36]: All right. All right. Well, I have a misprint, I suppose, then but I have fifty one thousand in my reading. But okay. So it's sixty one. So you can verify sixty one. So be it. [2:39:39, 2:39:42]: All right, council. Any any questions for Mr. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [2:39:43, 2:39:48]: Well Ms. Wigan, this this these are funds that are already been expended. Right. [2:39:48, 2:39:49]: Yes. [2:39:49, 2:40:01]: Well, m Mr. Knight, um um I mean that's nothing to say, but uh I'd like to go ahead and approve the uh council considerate to approve the ratification of the emergency uh information uh technology equipment purchase for sixty-one thousand. [2:40:01, 2:40:06]: Uh two hundred ninety three dollars and twenty cents. I mean it's already been spent. Well I mean what are we gonna do? [2:40:07, 2:40:08]: All right, the motion was made. Is there a second? [2:40:09, 2:40:10]: A second. [2:40:10, 2:40:12]: Can't second any further conversation or discussion. [2:40:14, 2:40:15]: If not on favor, please indicate. [2:40:18, 2:40:23]: Okay. Uh okay, m okay, so it's an ambition decision. Thank you very much. All right, Mr. Wiggins, appreciate it. All right. [2:40:25, 2:40:30]: Council consideration improved site engineering to perform stormwater improvements. Uh [2:40:30, 2:40:44]: One hundred, one thousand, hundred, well, wait a minute. Along, excuse me, uh stormwater improvements along one oh one, one oh three, and one hundred five turning point in the amount of seventy-five thousand four hundred five hundred and forty dollars, funding source, American Rescue Plan Act. [2:40:44, 2:40:46]: Fantastic. Uh Mr. Aaron, please. [2:40:47, 2:41:04]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. This is a project that will resolve a stormwater issue that we have along the rear of these properties and keep some yards from being flooded with stormwater. So we're using our own call water and sewer contracts to make these repairs. [2:41:06, 2:41:08]: Any questions for Ms. Aaron Council? [2:41:10, 2:41:11]: Uh, Ms. Barber Gray, please. [2:41:11, 2:41:20]: I just want to hear Mr. Aaron uh reiterate um the funding source for this. It's coming from opera funds. [2:41:20, 2:41:25]: American rescue funds. So we'll be actually embersed reimbursed. [2:41:26, 2:41:28]: For this expenditure, correct. [2:41:28, 2:41:32]: Yes, ma'am. And what's the amount of this again? [2:41:32, 2:41:35]: Seventy five thousand five hundred and forty dollars. [2:41:35, 2:41:40]: Thank you, sir. Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion if there are no other questions. [2:41:40, 2:41:43]: Motion's been made uh to accept this proposal. Is there a second? [2:41:43, 2:41:44]: I see. [2:41:45, 2:41:49]: Okay, Miss Gantt, second that and if no further discussion, all favor, please indicate. [2:41:50, 2:41:53]: All right, got a unanimous decision. Okay, appreciate it. Thank you very much. [2:41:55, 2:42:11]: Council consideration approved site engineering to perform stonewater improvements along 904 Needletop Court and 817 Rock Lane in the amount of$26,514. Once again, funding source, American Rescue Plan Act. Mr. Aarons, please. [2:42:11, 2:42:23]: Yes, Mayor and Council. This is another project that will resolve a stormwater issue at 904 Needletop. Uh uh property is flooding due to stormwater, so this will resolve that problem. [2:42:25, 2:42:27]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:42:28, 2:42:32]: Yeah, I'd like to go ahead and motion to approve the twenty-six thousand six hundred and fourteen dollars. [2:42:32, 2:42:33]: For funding for the need of [2:42:33, 2:42:35]: Uh need a top court uh project. [2:42:37, 2:42:37]: Okay. [2:42:38, 2:42:44]: Okay. No problem. Uh thank you, Ms. Gantt. Second that motion that Mr. Blount put in action. Mr. Thomas, please. [2:42:44, 2:42:46]: You had a question or you just vote give me a vote? [2:42:46, 2:42:47]: All favor, please indicate. [2:42:49, 2:42:54]: Fantastic. Unanimous decision on that. Okay, good deal. Thank you very much. All right. [2:42:56, 2:43:05]: Council consideration to approve CNC fence to install 354 linear feet of fencing at the Public Works Administration Building. [2:43:05, 2:43:08]: An amount of thirty two thousand one hundred and seventy dollars. [2:43:08, 2:43:12]: A funding source, Department General Fund Budget. Uh Mr. Aaron, please. [2:43:13, 2:43:29]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. Uh staff is requesting that we uh install additional fencing at the Public Works Administration building. We've had numerous burglaries and break-ins since the project started. And in fact, on September 29th, we came in to work. [2:43:29, 2:43:49]: And found a car parked inside the maintenance shop that had broken through some gates. So the building is kind of out of the way. So we just want to add an additional layer of security because once we move in, we'll have vehicles parked in at the facility as well. So uh CNC fencing installed the initial fencing with the contract. [2:43:49, 2:44:05]: built the building but uh we wanted to go directly to CNC ourself and not have to pay a markup for the contractor to install the additional fencing. So we're just asking to be able to install additional fencing and another gate for security reasons at the building. [2:44:05, 2:44:11]: Am I to assume that uh you got a we have a police report on all this stuff? Yes, sir, we do. [2:44:11, 2:44:23]: Okay. All right. And and you no one's been caught thus far. No one's been arrested or anything like that? No, sir. They they told the car out of there, had a Rockdale County uh tag on it. That's the only information we had. [2:44:24, 2:44:29]: And so we're still reviewing camera footage because we do have cameras at the maintenance shop. So we're still [2:44:30, 2:44:31]: Going through the camera footage. [2:44:32, 2:44:36]: Thank you. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead. It seemed like you had your head up first there. [2:44:37, 2:44:43]: Yes. Uh I'm disturbed by what you just said, which is there's been numerous break ins. How what [2:44:44, 2:44:50]: This is the first that I'm hearing about this. So talk about that. So we got a city facility. [2:44:51, 2:44:53]: That's obviously marked city facility. [2:44:53, 2:44:57]: And we we're having somebody repeatedly break in this facility. [2:44:58, 2:45:03]: This this was during the construction phase, you know, some of the materials and supplies people love. [2:45:04, 2:45:06]: Air conditioning and copper wiring and [2:45:07, 2:45:13]: pipes and things of that nature. So the break-ins occurred while it was under the control of the contractor. They had [2:45:13, 2:45:30]: on several occasions. You know that VP on East Atlanta Road has been burglarized numerous times. So that building is behind the BP. So and it's out of the way and several times we've gone down. I've gone down on my way into work early in the morning you see cars parked back there with [2:45:30, 2:45:40]: No business being back there, but we just want to have another layer of security. We do have lighting back there, but as I said, it's out of the way and isolated from the main flow of traffic. [2:45:40, 2:45:52]: Boy, you sure are hearing about a lot of things I haven't heard of. So the BP been burglarized now too. So they've been burglared that you said several times. So who where are you getting this? They told you that when you go in there, they've been burglarized several times? [2:45:53, 2:46:01]: Oh well we've seen the police down there. We talked to the courts because you know we buy most of us purchase our fuel from the BP station, so [2:46:03, 2:46:23]: And and this is something that I want to make sure because I think a lot of times this stuff like this happens and bubbles up to the surface. This is something that we as council uh should be made aware of. If we got somebody breaking into a city facility, stealing materials or whatever that may be, I certainly would like to be made aware of that. [2:46:23, 2:46:26]: And then, you know, from time to time I'm hearing [2:46:26, 2:46:38]: that we have these robberies and these break ins and nobody that's not bubbling up to me. I'm I don't know about the rest of you all. I hear about things like I heard about the business owner getting robbed on TV. [2:46:38, 2:46:39]: How is it that [2:46:40, 2:46:58]: What can we do that we communicate to law enforcement, but that we need to be a point of order of these can we can we either prove this or disapprove and then I mean I'm talking about an issue that's central to what's going on right now. What what is it that we can do to get some of this bulk we are aware of it? [2:46:59, 2:47:03]: That standby point. What we would do, what we would do. [2:47:03, 2:47:08]: and other cases for other issues has nothing to do with approving this fence right now. [2:47:08, 2:47:21]: We either get a lot of people. You're not concerned about the BP being robbed multiple times. Mr. Alexander, I'm very concerned, but I'm talking about the business at hand. We have to have some type of order in this meeting. And that's what would let's deal with this and then we'll deal with that later. [2:47:22, 2:47:24]: I mean it's not gonna go anywhere, it's not gonna change. [2:47:25, 2:47:29]: I mean the citizens don't want to hear uh they they ready for us to deal with the agenda. [2:47:29, 2:47:38]: All right. Got it. Um, we'll move on. Any other comments on reference to what's on the agenda to talk about in reference to security of the fence for the public works department? [2:47:39, 2:47:48]: If they're not, I need a motion to accept uh the proposal, Mr. Aaron, prevent prevent it, present presented. So move, Ms. Gans so move. There's a second. [2:47:48, 2:47:51]: All right, Mr. Blount second in all in favor, please indicate. [2:47:52, 2:47:55]: Okay, looks like a generic side. Thank you very much. We'll move on. [2:47:56, 2:47:57]: Thank you, Sor. [2:47:59, 2:48:10]: Council consideration approved extension of uh request for uh proposal RFP number 18 RFP 103018 DRR. [2:48:10, 2:48:28]: MSI Benefits Group Incorporated. The Human Resources Department is requesting approval to extend RFP 18, RFP 103018-DRR broker services for health insurance for MSB MSI benefits group. [2:48:28, 2:48:47]: Uh incorporated approved by the council on the 31st of January 2019, R19 desk 1027. The contract terms include one year with a two year, with a two one-year renewable options. Ms. Miller, please, along with the Ms. Willer, please. Thank you. [2:48:47, 2:48:55]: Good afternoon, Mayor Council. Um, as stated, the Human Resources Department is requesting approval to extend the contract awarded pursuant to the RFP. [2:48:56, 2:49:14]: Uh 18 RFP 103018 DRR broker services for health insurance for MSI benefits, which was approved by council. As stated, the contract was awarded for one year and it did have an option to renew for two one-year periods. Currently there are no renewals remaining. [2:49:14, 2:49:20]: So the human resources department is requesting a contract extension through December 31st. [2:49:20, 2:49:23]: Twenty twenty three, uh just a little bit about this contract. [2:49:24, 2:49:27]: Basically, um this is a broker services for health insurance with MSI. [2:49:28, 2:49:32]: Uh benefits group pro which provides the city with a consultant that offers. [2:49:32, 2:49:38]: review of the city's health benefits and assess opportunities for improvement of in cost savings. [2:49:38, 2:49:51]: guidance regarding the most advantageous um information concerning insurance markets from standpoints of cost service and coverages uh basically the [2:49:52, 2:49:57]: RFP was solicited um back in 2018 by my prede predecessor. [2:49:58, 2:50:03]: And on January 28, 2019, the city manager submitted the agenda. [2:50:03, 2:50:04]: For approval. [2:50:05, 2:50:10]: And um just to add, the city attorney has reviewed and approved this council recommendation for him. [2:50:13, 2:50:21]: Okay, council, any questions for Ms. Miller about this uh benefits uh uh information here for the staff, for the employees? Yes, Ms. Barber Goya, please. [2:50:22, 2:50:28]: Wanted to ask Ms. Wheeler. Um, so what Ms. Miller just said was this. [2:50:29, 2:50:30]: The original [2:50:30, 2:50:31]: Контракт воз [2:50:32, 2:50:33]: Signed in twenty eighteen. [2:50:34, 2:50:35]: Or twenty nineteen. [2:50:36, 2:50:37]: Twenty eighteen. [2:50:37, 2:50:39]: Okay. I believe. [2:50:40, 2:50:43]: So we have not gone back out to. [2:50:43, 2:50:47]: Um, see what the market looks like as far as these services. [2:50:48, 2:50:50]: We use a broker for that. [2:50:50, 2:50:52]: Part we would use a broker for that. [2:50:52, 2:50:55]: Our broker that we currently have goes out to the market. [2:50:56, 2:50:57]: And [2:50:57, 2:50:59]: markets the benefits [2:51:00, 2:51:03]: And comes back to us with a proposal. [2:51:03, 2:51:06]: Which you uh received back at the budget retreat. [2:51:07, 2:51:08]: On the uh [2:51:09, 2:51:11]: benefits package that we currently have. [2:51:12, 2:51:14]: So we use a broker to do that. [2:51:14, 2:51:21]: Okay, so what is this contract specifically? This is the contract to recontinue with the broker that we have on record. [2:51:22, 2:51:25]: To continue to provide the benefit services. [2:51:25, 2:51:26]: that we currently have. [2:51:26, 2:51:28]: Okay, so it's for broker services. [2:51:29, 2:51:31]: Yeah. Okay. [2:51:31, 2:51:34]: Have we have we ever compared the cost? [2:51:34, 2:51:37]: Um for these brokers, I'm just curious. [2:51:37, 2:51:41]: There is no cost for the broker. The broker just provides the services. [2:51:42, 2:51:43]: They [2:51:44, 2:51:46]: Commission is paid by the [2:51:46, 2:51:46]: Vendor. [2:51:47, 2:51:50]: So we utilize them to be a [2:51:50, 2:51:52]: Arm to the HR department. [2:51:52, 2:51:55]: Where they administer our benefits. [2:51:55, 2:51:58]: So they are cut acting as our benefits administrator. [2:51:58, 2:52:01]: instead of that being in ho in house. [2:52:02, 2:52:06]: Okay. So you're just requesting that we extend this until the end of next year. [2:52:07, 2:52:07]: Correct. [2:52:07, 2:52:13]: Okay, so next year we're gonna be looking to compare the cost with another broker or another. [2:52:14, 2:52:20]: If it depends on um it really depends. MSI benefits provides a great service to us. [2:52:20, 2:52:25]: And with the service that they do provide, they're able to go out to market and bring us the best. [2:52:25, 2:52:27]: costs benefit based on our [2:52:28, 2:52:30]: employee population and our claims. [2:52:31, 2:52:32]: So thank you. [2:52:32, 2:52:37]: What is it that they are able to do better than what GMA? [2:52:37, 2:52:41]: could do for us because I know GMA also offers. [2:52:42, 2:52:43]: benefit services. [2:52:46, 2:52:48]: Well, I I mean I've preferred the MSI. [2:52:51, 2:52:52]: But [2:52:52, 2:52:55]: Okay, so how do I know what is the best? [2:52:56, 2:52:58]: approach if we're not comparing [2:52:59, 2:53:01]: What this current broker is providing. [2:53:01, 2:53:03]: Versus what GMA [2:53:03, 2:53:07]: and the services that they provide. How do we know which is best? [2:53:08, 2:53:11]: Well, it's best on the premium that we receive. [2:53:11, 2:53:16]: Um the count the city had GMA at one point moved away from that. [2:53:16, 2:53:19]: And uh we've went out to on [2:53:19, 2:53:23]: On bid for services okay and um GMA. [2:53:24, 2:53:28]: has not provided um did not provide anything to us [2:53:29, 2:53:37]: So we have used GMA in the past. So you were able to prior prior to me coming on board, I understand that the city possibly had GMA. [2:53:38, 2:53:39]: Okay, thank you. [2:53:41, 2:53:44]: Any other questions uh for the ladies here, council? [2:53:45, 2:53:46]: Ms. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:53:48, 2:54:07]: Yeah, from my understanding, I think at the uh budget ret at the retreat also, uh, it wasn't advised for us to dip back into trying to um with um with the information that were given us to dip back into trying to go and bid do other bidding and uh for uh for as um [2:54:07, 2:54:15]: policies and stuff. I mean, I don't want to get into that, but I I like to go ahead and approve the uh council consideration, approve the extension request proposal. [2:54:16, 2:54:19]: Okay, and made that a motion. Is there a second to the motion? [2:54:19, 2:54:22]: My second. Ms. Gantt second any further discussion. [2:54:23, 2:54:25]: If not all flavored a motion, please indicate. [2:54:26, 2:54:29]: I see looks like is it uh [2:54:29, 2:54:38]: I can't see Mr. Thomas. I abstained. Okay, Miss Barber abstains. Mr. Blount says yes. Gantt says yes. Alexander, sir, Mayor Pro Tem. [2:54:39, 2:54:40]: What do you vote, sir? [2:54:41, 2:55:00]: I'm just a little confused about the fact that we did not go back to um GMA or we did not get a um is it possible to even get a quote from GMA to see where they are to compare to what the final outcome is? What not at this stage, Mr. Alexander, we cannot. [2:55:01, 2:55:05]: We already have our benefits ready to go for January first. [2:55:05, 2:55:10]: Mm-hmm. GMA starts their package on July first. They are in a different [2:55:10, 2:55:14]: Um fiscal year than we have, so we would have to wait till next year. [2:55:14, 2:55:16]: In order to go to GMA to get [2:55:16, 2:55:18]: What their prices are for the [2:55:18, 2:55:20]: Um cost of there. [2:55:20, 2:55:22]: Health insurance to make a comparison. [2:55:24, 2:55:29]: At this point, you won't, if you don't go with them, you won't have any benefits come January 1st. [2:55:30, 2:55:30]: All right. [2:55:30, 2:55:39]: Once again, Miss Okay, I'll stand by stand by. Hold on a second. Mr. Thomas, uh I think that answers your question, Alexander. I hope anyway. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:55:39, 2:55:42]: Yeah, I I want to just confirm, uh seeming like I heard um [2:55:43, 2:55:46]: Two dates the end of twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. [2:55:47, 2:55:49]: Uh which which is it? [2:55:53, 2:55:57]: The HR department wanted it to be extended through twenty-three. [2:56:00, 2:56:20]: Okay, good. Could we extend it through to the mayor? I'm sorry. I know what he's gonna say is that we had a motion on the floor. I asked for discuss a second, I asked for discussion and went to the vote and then we started discussing. So what it amounts to is that the motion does still still on the floor and we it's a second, but if we I asked for discussion earlier, but we went to I'm okay. [2:56:20, 2:56:25]: with the discussion mayor. I mean I I just want the council to have a full understanding of what's at hand here. [2:56:26, 2:56:28]: Uh the budget retreat. [2:56:28, 2:56:33]: We was told we was told that what was at hand at the budget retreat and when we approved [2:56:33, 2:56:36]: Uh, this at the budget retreat. [2:56:36, 2:56:41]: Only thing was to do was to come here and finalize it after everything was made up. [2:56:41, 2:56:49]: And written up and set up by the broker and HR. So now we got to this point where if we don't do this tonight. [2:56:49, 2:56:52]: Then then we find ourselves in in a predicament. [2:56:52, 2:56:58]: These and this goes back to what I was saying. Their conversations about things that we've approved. [2:56:58, 2:57:06]: That needs to be had those conversations prior to approving them out front in order to push those things forward. Because this was a this. [2:57:07, 2:57:09]: was actually approved by the whole council as a whole. [2:57:10, 2:57:12]: At the budget retreat, we all approve this. [2:57:13, 2:57:16]: And now we're sitting here questioning something that we [2:57:16, 2:57:27]: At this point, where now if we don't approve it, we won't even have insurance in January. We got to we have to have these discussions prior to council meetings. [2:57:28, 2:57:30]: And we all approve this already. [2:57:31, 2:57:36]: Uh Mr. Mayor, I I I believe I had the floor. May I finish? Yeah, go ahead, sir. [2:57:36, 2:57:41]: Okay, I'm I'm asking because I've I've heard conflict and dates. [2:57:41, 2:57:44]: I've heard, I think, Mrs. Wheeler say [2:57:45, 2:57:48]: Twenty twenty two, Miss Mill said twenty twenty three. [2:57:48, 2:57:50]: I just want to confirm which is it. [2:57:52, 2:57:55]: The agenda reads the agenda reads twenty three. [2:57:57, 2:58:00]: Okay, and and and the renewal is with Cigna. [2:58:02, 2:58:05]: We're renewing the we're using the current broker services. [2:58:07, 2:58:10]: That is what the renewal is with MSI benefits. [2:58:10, 2:58:11]: Okay. [2:58:13, 2:58:16]: Thank you. You've already approved the Cigna. [2:58:17, 2:58:18]: Uh [2:58:18, 2:58:20]: benefits at the budget retreat. [2:58:21, 2:58:23]: When the presentation was given. [2:58:23, 2:58:24]: Thank you. [2:58:26, 2:58:27]: All right. Um [2:58:27, 2:58:36]: But back to Ms. Barber, I guess here. You had a question then, I suppose. I know I thought we were all getting already voted. I wanted to give an explanation for my [2:58:37, 2:58:42]: Me abstaining. Okay, stand stand by please. Mayor Pro Tem, are you satisfied now? Are you you ready? You ready? [2:58:43, 2:58:43]: You good? [2:58:46, 2:58:52]: I I just want confirmation that there's no I mean, uh Miss Wheeler just said we're not gonna have insurance and we don't [2:58:53, 2:58:55]: move forward with it. So at this point there's no [2:58:56, 2:58:58]: Room for any time. [2:58:58, 2:59:08]: to e even research whether or not um DMA or to be able to uh change the date to twenty twenty two so next year we could get a um [2:59:09, 2:59:12]: uh estimate from GMA instead of extending it for two years. [2:59:14, 2:59:21]: All right. The motion was was made and it was seconded motion made by Councilman Blount. Um and the second was made by Councilman Gann, I believe. Is that correct? [2:59:22, 2:59:31]: Okay. And Miss Holday, you you got the motion. You understand that? Yes, I do. That is the motion. Okay. All right. Now we'll try this again. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:59:32, 2:59:32]: One, two. [2:59:34, 2:59:35]: Two, four. [2:59:36, 2:59:40]: Two for the motion. Uh uh anybody against the motion. [2:59:42, 2:59:45]: Okay. One against is abstain abstention? [2:59:47, 2:59:48]: Two extensions. [2:59:49, 2:59:59]: Now you realize by two one two, that means that if that's this fails, then that means uh we we have no insurance for our employees. I'm gonna make an alternative motion. [2:59:59, 3:00:03]: No, bear forward. Stand by. Stand by. [3:00:03, 3:00:08]: Uh stand by. Miss Barber, you want to explain something about the why you're abstaining, I suppose. [3:00:08, 3:00:20]: Yes, I don't like the council being put in these kinds of situations. Um, when we know we need to make a decision like this, I don't like feeling pressured to make a decision. We need to be able to compare the cost. [3:00:21, 3:00:25]: I know that our insurance or health care is through Cigna. [3:00:26, 3:00:29]: If we approved anything, it was Signa, our health care. [3:00:30, 3:00:34]: This broker is something completely separate. We can find another broker. [3:00:35, 3:00:38]: However, what is presented to us today is this. [3:00:39, 3:00:39]: M S I [3:00:40, 3:00:41]: What I'm asking. [3:00:42, 3:00:43]: I'd like to see [3:00:43, 3:00:44]: Um [3:00:44, 3:00:45]: The cost [3:00:45, 3:00:47]: Um compared. [3:00:47, 3:00:50]: I want to see what it looks like. [3:00:50, 3:00:52]: with GMA and what they offer. [3:00:53, 3:00:54]: And [3:00:54, 3:00:57]: maybe MSI and any other broker. [3:00:58, 3:00:59]: I wanna see. [3:00:59, 3:01:02]: So I think what you have to understand is that we're [3:01:03, 3:01:06]: Way too late to do that at this process. [3:01:07, 3:01:12]: If this was going to be done, I mean, we went through the budget retreat. We had MSI. [3:01:12, 3:01:18]: Who is our broker who provides the benefit services for us? He goes out to market. [3:01:18, 3:01:26]: And he came back with the cost so that we would not have such an increase in our premiums by staying with Cygna. [3:01:26, 3:01:29]: Now what we need here is just basically [3:01:29, 3:01:40]: to continue the contract as it was in the RFP in twenty eighteen, to continue with the current broker as is. And if you choose to go out [3:01:40, 3:01:51]: next year and you want to do a comparison, we can do that at that time. But since we're on an annual basis for our benefits and not on a July 1st to a June 30th. [3:01:52, 3:01:54]: Which is what GMA is on. [3:01:54, 3:01:57]: It would be difficult at this time. [3:01:57, 3:01:58]: To come back, to go out. [3:01:59, 3:02:11]: to get costs and then to come back and to provide a benefit package for the uh employees. With our claims history as high as it is this time, our premiums will be very high. [3:02:11, 3:02:18]: Right. And I understand that. I know that when the gentleman came and spoke with us, he spoke to us about our health care benefits. [3:02:19, 3:02:36]: He didn't speak to us about broker services. Okay, but it's all that is what we use. We use a broker to provide healthcare benefits. I understand that, but my point is when we know that we have contracts that are going to expire. [3:02:37, 3:02:38]: Please. [3:02:38, 3:02:40]: Do your due diligence. [3:02:40, 3:02:43]: Bring me comparable. I want to be able to see. [3:02:44, 3:02:47]: I want to be able to make the decision based on the information. [3:02:48, 3:02:49]: That is presented to you. [3:02:49, 3:03:02]: I don't want it to appear as though now my back is up against the wall. Now I have to make a decision. Absolutely not. This council has the right to make a decision. I know timing is important. [3:03:02, 3:03:14]: When these items are presented to us, all I'm asking is that staff do their due diligence first, bring that to us, allow us to make the decision on who we want to go with. [3:03:14, 3:03:15]: But [3:03:15, 3:03:18]: We're now here. We're here now and I don't [3:03:18, 3:03:23]: I don't feel comfortable with just extending something just because um [3:03:24, 3:03:27]: This contract is going to end in a couple of months. [3:03:27, 3:03:29]: So I'm just abstaining. [3:03:29, 3:03:32]: For that reason. I hope that next year. [3:03:32, 3:03:45]: that before um May or June, whenever GMA their benefits rolled out, that we're able to get prices so that we can compare the cost. That's all I'm saying. [3:03:45, 3:03:53]: It's not that I'm against MSI. I'm not. I want to be able to have something to compare it with. And I don't. That's all. [3:03:54, 3:03:58]: Stand by Mr. Blount. Mr. Thomas, you had something, sir, earlier? Well [3:03:58, 3:04:05]: And and I guess I I know we'll approve Signa, but the the whole issue of MSI and I I guess the overall [3:04:06, 3:04:08]: Concern I have is [3:04:09, 3:04:11]: And and and I mentioned this earlier. [3:04:11, 3:04:15]: It just seemed to be not enough information. [3:04:15, 3:04:16]: available, you know. [3:04:17, 3:04:20]: So MSI was the only broker that that came forward. [3:04:20, 3:04:31]: And as Ms. uh Councilwoman Bar, we we don't have anything to compare with. And and it just seemed that this is always, you know, it's the same problem. And I don't know what council can say. [3:04:31, 3:04:36]: uh to get us past you know this this this point right here. [3:04:37, 3:04:38]: Um [3:04:39, 3:04:44]: You know, and I understand the deadlines and those kind of thing, but we just keep running into the same wall. [3:04:45, 3:04:48]: And uh it just leaves us in a position of [3:04:48, 3:04:49]: You know [3:04:50, 3:04:51]: Well, we don't have a choice. [3:04:53, 3:04:54]: It's a black way, please. [3:04:56, 3:04:57]: Uh Miss Wheeler. [3:04:58, 3:05:02]: Was that Msi that gave us the presentation at the budget retreat? [3:05:03, 3:05:04]: Yes, yes, sir. [3:05:04, 3:05:13]: So MSI gave us a presentation at the budget retreat. So it's no, it's no secret that they're the they were the ones going to be doing this. No secret. [3:05:14, 3:05:17]: No secret. What they prov what I think the council doesn't understand. [3:05:18, 3:05:21]: Let me say every single council member here. [3:05:21, 3:05:24]: Got the same presentation from this broker. [3:05:25, 3:05:26]: Okay. [3:05:27, 3:05:36]: One of the things this city probably needs to do is get rid of every department here that are making decisions because this council wants to manage and be the elected body. [3:05:37, 3:05:48]: We sit here as a whole. Every single council member on here voted with this broker and said, okay, to what's being brought forward. Now you just said. [3:05:49, 3:05:54]: that we can go and revisit this in a year with this broker. [3:05:54, 3:06:13]: But this broker is the one that brought the brought the proposal of what we were going to do right now forward. It makes no sense. So now you got the team going to do their thing and going through what they're going through. Now it's a problem right now when this this council sit here and approved it with this broker. [3:06:13, 3:06:15]: It makes no sense to me. [3:06:18, 3:06:19]: All right. Um [3:06:20, 3:06:21]: Any further comment. [3:06:24, 3:06:28]: I I would just like to say that the what the broker provides is a service. [3:06:29, 3:06:32]: The broker provides a service to the HR. [3:06:32, 3:06:33]: Department. [3:06:34, 3:06:36]: to administer their benefits. [3:06:36, 3:06:39]: That is all they provide. They come. [3:06:39, 3:06:44]: They give us information regarding the service that they can provide. [3:06:44, 3:06:47]: What I look for is if they can do an online portal. [3:06:48, 3:06:59]: Can they do booklets, which you receive every year? Can they provide benefit statements? Those are the services that they provide to the HR department. [3:07:00, 3:07:17]: They also have the ability to work with various vendors, Cigna, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Humana, Aetna, whoever will go out when they go out to the market, who wants the book of business based on our employment. [3:07:17, 3:07:23]: Population based on our claims history. They come back with the premium. [3:07:23, 3:07:41]: that will be paid by those services. And that is what he presented to you all at the budget retreat to let you know if we stay with Cygna and have their business, this is how much the cost will be to the city based on premiums. [3:07:41, 3:07:53]: Now, yes, he could have gone out and had Blue Cross, Blue Shield if they would bid on us, but they're because we're so small, there's a very limited number of vendors. [3:07:53, 3:07:55]: That will come or [3:07:56, 3:07:59]: Medical providers that will come in. [3:07:59, 3:08:01]: Give us a a cost. [3:08:02, 3:08:03]: For our uh [3:08:03, 3:08:05]: For our premiums. [3:08:06, 3:08:07]: So that is how it's done. [3:08:09, 3:08:11]: So Signa came back. [3:08:11, 3:08:19]: Would not increase the benefits but a certain percentage. And we decided to go with Signer for all of our benefit package. [3:08:21, 3:08:35]: MSI acts as the go-between between those various benefit providers. That's all they do. And they provide those services to HR and they handle all the benefits so that it is not a burden to the [3:08:35, 3:08:36]: HR department. [3:08:38, 3:08:45]: They're an extension as if you had your own benefit department in-house, that is what they provide for us. [3:08:47, 3:08:56]: Mayor, if I may, this is Jeremy. Just further clarification, this is just a contract renewal to extend the term of this contract for the broker that Ms. Wheeler and the city have been working with. [3:08:56, 3:09:01]: For a couple years and and right, as Miss Wigler explained, this is just to help find the [3:09:01, 3:09:07]: the health insurance for the the the city. This isn't replacing Cygna or anything else. This is just [3:09:07, 3:09:08]: Hiring an expert. [3:09:09, 3:09:09]: To help. [3:09:09, 3:09:15]: To assist the city find the plan that's the right fit. And this is just simply a contract renewal. [3:09:16, 3:09:23]: Uh and if they want to switch plans or switch brokers down the road, that's certainly the city's prerogative, but this is just a renewal of a contract. [3:09:26, 3:09:36]: Okay, Ms. Barber, this is the third time, but go ahead. Well no, I wanted to just provide uh clarity to uh Mr. Berry what my concern is. Um [3:09:36, 3:09:44]: I've seen a lot of contract renewals and extensions. I don't want to see contract renewals and extensions. [3:09:44, 3:09:48]: Where we can compare costs. [3:09:49, 3:09:50]: And decide. [3:09:50, 3:09:53]: If we want to stay with the same vendor. [3:09:54, 3:09:54]: Or not. [3:09:55, 3:10:05]: I'm seeing a lot of requests to extend contracts and we're not comparing the cost. I know that this is just for broker services. I know that. [3:10:06, 3:10:08]: All I'm asking [3:10:08, 3:10:11]: Is the next time when we have to do this? [3:10:11, 3:10:15]: that we compare cost with GMA or any other broker. [3:10:17, 3:10:18]: I've seen too many. [3:10:19, 3:10:26]: Request to extend contracts when we have not done the work ahead of time and comparing the costs. [3:10:27, 3:10:33]: I don't know if this this broker and his services that he provides is cheaper. [3:10:33, 3:10:35]: Or he provides [3:10:35, 3:10:39]: better quality or services. I don't know that. [3:10:40, 3:10:41]: All I've been given. [3:10:42, 3:10:54]: is just a request to extend a contract that we've been using well with a service brought provider that we've been using for three or four months, three or four years. [3:10:55, 3:10:56]: I wanna stop. [3:10:57, 3:11:00]: Just using the same people. [3:11:00, 3:11:03]: That we've been using over [3:11:03, 3:11:05]: And over and over again. [3:11:05, 3:11:09]: We need to be able to compare the cost. That's all. That is what my concern is. [3:11:09, 3:11:14]: I don't believe we're going to be without health insurance if this does not get approved. [3:11:14, 3:11:15]: Um [3:11:16, 3:11:17]: He's already done that. [3:11:18, 3:11:20]: During the budget retreat, he did his presentation. [3:11:20, 3:11:22]: For health insurance. [3:11:23, 3:11:24]: He's just a broker. [3:11:24, 3:11:26]: Or this company is just the agent. [3:11:27, 3:11:29]: We can find another agent. [3:11:30, 3:11:33]: I just want to be able to compare the cost and we have not done that. [3:11:33, 3:11:37]: That is what my concern is. The cost for broker services. [3:11:38, 3:11:40]: That is what my concern is. That's all. [3:11:41, 3:11:43]: All right. Well excuse me, Ms. Gantt. Go ahead, please. [3:11:44, 3:11:45]: Thank you. Um [3:11:46, 3:11:48]: Do we pay for broker services? [3:11:48, 3:11:49]: No. [3:11:50, 3:11:50]: Okay. [3:11:52, 3:11:53]: We don't pay for broker services. [3:11:56, 3:12:05]: Ms. Barber, you you've already spoken three times. Well, I'm looking at this Mayor recommendation form that says um fifty thousand dollars. Point of order, Mayor. [3:12:05, 3:12:05]: Yeah. [3:12:06, 3:12:12]: So which is it? Do we pay for it or not? Ms. Gantt, Ms. Barber, please. Okay. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [3:12:14, 3:12:18]: Ms. Willer, we don't pay for broker services. That's what you just said? [3:12:18, 3:12:25]: Yeah, we don't we pay it is the broker gets his money, the commission is paid by Cygna. [3:12:25, 3:12:26]: Yes, okay. [3:12:27, 3:12:30]: So this really actually could be centered [3:12:31, 3:12:33]: Could be considered a professional service. [3:12:33, 3:12:36]: Is that not correct, Jer um um Jeremy? [3:12:36, 3:12:37]: Attorney. [3:12:38, 3:12:41]: Council member, I I mean I think that's probably correct. I think so. [3:12:42, 3:12:43]: So [3:12:43, 3:12:45]: We've been through this. [3:12:46, 3:12:49]: And I I respect the d the debate and and questioning. [3:12:50, 3:12:50]: But [3:12:51, 3:12:55]: We don't have to go through this. This is a professional service. [3:12:56, 3:13:00]: And I'm not going to say I'm tired of seeing the same [3:13:01, 3:13:07]: people do our services if they're the best or if that's the best bid that we receive. [3:13:07, 3:13:11]: Or because it's a professional service. [3:13:11, 3:13:13]: It really doesn't have to go out to bid. [3:13:15, 3:13:19]: in the first place, then we can leave it up to our HR [3:13:20, 3:13:21]: And allow [3:13:22, 3:13:23]: For our [3:13:23, 3:13:26]: pri for our directors, our staff to do their job. [3:13:28, 3:13:31]: There's a lot of intermingling going on right now. [3:13:33, 3:13:35]: There I have an issue [3:13:35, 3:13:37]: You know, with us online. [3:13:38, 3:13:42]: Saying, hey, we want to see other people. Well what if other people don't apply? [3:13:43, 3:13:50]: We've caused delays in contracts because we've only gotten one person to come and bid in the past. So be it. That's who wanted to do it. [3:13:52, 3:13:52]: We [3:13:54, 3:13:56]: Need to educate ourselves. [3:13:58, 3:13:59]: On the process. [3:14:00, 3:14:01]: It is imperative. [3:14:02, 3:14:08]: that we figure we know the difference sometimes between the professional services, what we do have to have and what we don't have to have. [3:14:09, 3:14:10]: We are not paying this broker. [3:14:14, 3:14:19]: That should be alarming within itself. I will not haul our staff's insurance. [3:14:20, 3:14:23]: I will not ha haul insurance because [3:14:24, 3:14:25]: Of the fact that we're just [3:14:27, 3:14:29]: We want to see what another broker will bring us. [3:14:31, 3:14:34]: Brokers and agents are shopping for rates. [3:14:35, 3:14:40]: This is a professional service that does not have to be bid out, nor are we paying for it. [3:14:43, 3:14:43]: Now [3:14:44, 3:14:49]: But while I was in being interrupted, I over I heard Councilwoman Barber state. [3:14:50, 3:14:56]: asking a question about fifty thousand dollars. Can anyone tell me if we're paying the broker fifty thousand dollars? [3:15:00, 3:15:06]: No, basically um in section three point three oh it just states that if a contract values but the con [3:15:06, 3:15:09]: If a contract values over it's an ordinance section. [3:15:09, 3:15:15]: But the ordinance references that the council has the authority to renew or extend the contract. [3:15:16, 3:15:17]: Okay. [3:15:17, 3:15:21]: So but we also can all agree that this is a professional service. [3:15:22, 3:15:29]: I mean, everybody's not an agent that's going out to look for insurance company rates. And that's what a broker does. They're looking for the rates. [3:15:29, 3:15:33]: This broker has found reasonable cheat rates that haven't been hiked. [3:15:37, 3:15:42]: And if you read in between the lines of what our HR management is saying, that would make sense. [3:15:44, 3:15:46]: I would like to move forward with the motion, Mayor. [3:15:47, 3:15:53]: At this time. We'll try this again. The motion was made by I believe Councilman Blount. Is that correct? And this can you second that motion. [3:15:54, 3:15:54]: Right. [3:15:55, 3:16:06]: I'm sorry, what are we voting on? I have a um 212 vote on this item and then it went into discussion right with Ms. Councilwoman Barber explaining her vote. [3:16:07, 3:16:07]: Right. [3:16:08, 3:16:11]: Okay, well I would like to make a motion that we approve. [3:16:11, 3:16:20]: at least up to a year, even if it was two years, so that just in case, but I think this is a professional service, I would like to make a motion. [3:16:20, 3:16:22]: That we approve. [3:16:23, 3:16:25]: The requ um request by [3:16:25, 3:16:26]: Miss Wheeler. [3:16:27, 3:16:29]: After we've had a discussion and discovered [3:16:29, 3:16:31]: That we don't pay for broker services. [3:16:33, 3:16:39]: All right. So that'd be a new motion. Uh Miss Holliday, I believe, did you have all that motion written down? You have that accurately? [3:16:41, 3:16:44]: The motion is as as presented. [3:16:45, 3:16:48]: Before but are you adding to that motion, Councilwoman can't? [3:16:49, 3:16:50]: For one year. [3:16:50, 3:16:51]: For one year. [3:16:52, 3:16:54]: She's making a new motion. [3:16:54, 3:16:56]: That's through twenty twenty two. [3:16:57, 3:17:00]: Yes, and we can extend it. I mean, here's the problem I have. [3:17:00, 3:17:06]: It needs to be a professional service instead of bidding out anyway, especially if we're not making a payment. [3:17:07, 3:17:10]: And when you do your re when you do research on it. [3:17:10, 3:17:14]: Anyone can go, just like you guys go and get quotes. [3:17:14, 3:17:22]: And look at different things. We the directors get different departments coming in, different businesses coming in and said, Hey, this is what we can do for you. [3:17:23, 3:17:23]: Right. [3:17:24, 3:17:25]: I mean [3:17:27, 3:17:29]: Well, some of us have have been in business before, but [3:17:30, 3:17:32]: That that is what I'm trying to say. [3:17:33, 3:17:33]: So [3:17:33, 3:17:35]: I I think that [3:17:35, 3:17:37]: You know, there's no need of us going round and round. [3:17:38, 3:17:40]: On something that is imperative to have. [3:17:42, 3:17:43]: Your health care. [3:17:44, 3:17:46]: With a br about a broker. [3:17:46, 3:17:47]: Who we don't pay. [3:17:50, 3:17:53]: And our HR, who we hired. [3:17:54, 3:17:55]: To do a job. [3:17:56, 3:17:59]: Her job specifically recommends [3:18:01, 3:18:02]: This [3:18:02, 3:18:03]: Healthcare plan [3:18:04, 3:18:06]: In the manner that we have it in. [3:18:07, 3:18:08]: And has explained why. [3:18:10, 3:18:12]: I think that's imperative that we move forward with that. [3:18:14, 3:18:16]: Stand by. Is there a second to the motion? [3:18:17, 3:18:18]: Second yeah. [3:18:18, 3:18:26]: Ms. Bruce, second. Mr. Thomas, please. Well, I was just gonna say I I I can I'm willing to approve for the for the one year if that's in the motion. [3:18:27, 3:18:35]: It I I believe it is. Matter of fact, Miss Holliday, what did you have right written down for the motion? I have that, but my question is, and this may be for our attorney. [3:18:35, 3:18:37]: Because what is presented is [3:18:38, 3:18:39]: Um an RF. [3:18:40, 3:18:41]: Is this an RFP? [3:18:42, 3:18:45]: So it is this an all together brand new item. [3:18:46, 3:18:49]: on the agenda, not having anything to do with number fifteen on the agenda. [3:18:50, 3:18:53]: Because number fifteen references an RFP. [3:18:56, 3:18:58]: The original contract, I believe. [3:18:58, 3:19:05]: And I perhaps Miss Wheeler, uh Miss Miller could speak to this, but I I believe it originally was bid some years ago and it was. [3:19:06, 3:19:11]: It must have been bid in 2018 because it says RFP number eighteen RFP. [3:19:11, 3:19:15]: So right, this is just extending the term of the contract under that. [3:19:16, 3:19:19]: And they're it's not a it's not a brand new RFP. [3:19:19, 3:19:22]: And and as Councilwoman Gantt said before, if [3:19:22, 3:19:26]: That's the council's prerogative that still could just be done as professional services. [3:19:26, 3:19:28]: Without a a procurement. [3:19:28, 3:19:29]: Bye. [3:19:30, 3:19:32]: I think that us doing that. [3:19:32, 3:19:37]: I mean, we should rely on the professionals. I think we're micromanaging way too much. We're crossing the line. [3:19:39, 3:19:42]: All right. So um Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [3:19:43, 3:20:03]: Mayor, I I I'd like for us to go ahead and take the vote for the RFP because I thank Ms. Wheeler for the courtesy. But if we don't approve it tonight, then she has the right to go ahead and move forward with his professional services anyway, rather than have every employee and everybody sit back with no insurance come January the first, because our professional or department head has just said that. [3:20:03, 3:20:21]: So I don't want us to sit here and continue to play games. Take the vote and if it doesn't pass, Ms. Wheeler, it's on you to make sure every employee and everyone still has insurance by January the first with professional services. Council, I don't agree with that because Mayor Council is directing staff. [3:20:22, 3:20:23]: And we've had a lot of [3:20:24, 3:20:27]: hearsays of threats and everything else already. No. [3:20:27, 3:20:28]: I don't agree with that. [3:20:29, 3:20:40]: Okay, the motion either go with that or not. The motion's been made. It's been seconded. Ms. Uh Holiday, read the motion one more time before we take this vote. Make sure we understand this motion is right. Please. Okay. [3:20:41, 3:20:48]: Motion by Councilwoman Gantt, uh second by uh councilman Blount to extend the contract for one year. [3:20:50, 3:20:52]: For broker services. [3:20:54, 3:21:04]: Is that the motion? But MSI. Yes, that's the that's the sir. That's the um motion. That's I okay. I would ask that mayor council consider it a professional service. [3:21:05, 3:21:10]: Okay. Mr. Blount seconded that particular motion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:21:12, 3:21:22]: All right, I got four and um uh one abstention. All right, motion passed. All right, Hord, I'd like to add and comment for my abstention. [3:21:22, 3:21:34]: So Councilwoman Gantt made reference to this moving forward as a professional service agreement. I do believe any expenditures that exceed the authority limit. [3:21:35, 3:21:47]: of the city manager. What is that? Is it$25,000? It is necessary. Okay. I assume our medical benefits exceed the amount of$25,000. [3:21:47, 3:21:47]: So [3:21:48, 3:21:57]: That contract doesn't spend money. This is just finding someone to to bring on a health insurance company. They get paid by the health insurance company. [3:21:57, 3:21:58]: Not by the city. [3:21:59, 3:22:02]: Okay, so this was advertised as an RFP. [3:22:04, 3:22:07]: The request was to extend the contract that derived. [3:22:07, 3:22:09]: from this RFP. [3:22:09, 3:22:11]: So if I'm extending a contract. [3:22:13, 3:22:16]: Obviously there had to have been some funds. [3:22:17, 3:22:24]: I just we don't have enough I don't have enough information that I feel comfortable with voting on this. So I'm gonna abstain. That's all. [3:22:24, 3:22:26]: But I i if I may, real quick, the [3:22:28, 3:22:38]: The city has the option always to bid professional services, always has that option, but it also has the option, because it's an exception to procurement, to not bid it. [3:22:39, 3:22:42]: So someone made a decision in twenty eighteen to bid this work. [3:22:43, 3:22:48]: That I mean, I think that must have I wasn't here at the time. Someone must have made that decision. [3:22:48, 3:22:53]: But because it's an exception to the procurement code doesn't mean it always has to be done that way in the future. [3:22:55, 3:23:00]: Well, because I'm being asked to make a decision, I'll abstain because I don't feel comfortable. [3:23:00, 3:23:01]: That's all. Thank you. [3:23:02, 3:23:06]: Four zero one to motion pass. All right, now onto comments uh by me. [3:23:06, 3:23:07]: Good night. [3:23:08, 3:23:10]: Ladies and gentlemen, good night. Ladies and gentlemen. [3:23:10, 3:23:12]: Uh we're still in a pandemic. [3:23:13, 3:23:16]: So the public health department uh update in reference to um [3:23:16, 3:23:20]: How about testing for COVID 19, Red Hot Field? [3:23:20, 3:23:35]: 143 Henry Parkway. It's right across from the Henry County government office. And so COVID-19 testing is done every uh Tuesdays to Thursday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. [3:23:36, 3:23:38]: Okay. You just go by there and get tested. [3:23:39, 3:23:59]: And of course, uh you can also go to Dissi4 Health uh Department, uh the public health department there, and uh you can uh get tested there as well in this aspect. Um so please do so. Vaccinations are uh are uh free of charge and a lot of different organizations uh that have been working with the public health department and/or [3:23:59, 3:24:01]: core nonprofit organization and [3:24:02, 3:24:08]: uh different churches and organizations have been f financing or or presenting those uh to the public so please do so [3:24:09, 3:24:20]: And if you want a public health uh department to give you a vaccination, you can call 888-847-4262 to make an appointment. Once again, it's 888-847-4262. [3:24:21, 3:24:41]: And uh you can do that. Of course, they're gonna talk about the demographics, your health, uh, history, your age, any type of past, infections that you may have had, uh, COVID-19 testing that you may have, and things uh things of this nature. So please do that on this aspect. And of course, uh more information will be coming out of uh [3:24:41, 3:25:01]: uh in reference to uh uh what the type of FDA approvals will go on for Pfizer or Moderma to get the younger uh children uh vaccinated as well. That's coming shortly. And of course there are some boosters being offered now for folks that have underlying health conditions in a certain age group. So you got to keep [3:25:01, 3:25:18]: vigilant of this and uh continue to uh uh be safe, wear your masks, use hand sanitizer, wash your hands, watch a distance and uh get vaccinated. There's plenty of places in the public that you can actually do this free of charge or they'll take your housing services. You have that as well. [3:25:19, 3:25:39]: Tomorrow is starts early voting. Early voting for the municipal elections as well as for T S PLOS. Let me talk about T S PLOS in just a bit. So early voting starts tomorrow and uh several different locations around the county, but the main location for early voting for City of Stockbridge will be Merrill Mounters Conference Center. And [3:25:39, 3:25:42]: And uh that is if I understand right, a seven to seven. [3:25:42, 3:25:45]: And uh that includes weekends as well. [3:25:45, 3:26:05]: And then on the day of election, which is November 2nd, besides Merrill Manors, it'll be the Stockbridge United Methodist Church, as well as Red Oak United Methodist Church. It really depends on where what your your registration card tells you where you need to go on the day of the actual um uh uh [3:26:05, 3:26:07]: election which is November second. [3:26:07, 3:26:27]: And uh if you vote at those particular locations, you can do that for the municipal location as well as T S PLAS. Uh if you have that actual uh registration card indicating that. And I want to make sure that we have all the updates uh of uh early voting and the voting on November 2nd are updated on the website. [3:26:27, 3:26:47]: Holiday make ensures that that is done in that aspect. So it's your constitutional right to vote. And so hopefully you use the right to vote. If you haven't registered to vote already, it was too late for this election, because I think you had to do that by the 4th of October. So hopefully everybody uses their constitutional right and that many people have fought hard, get blood, sweat, and tears. [3:26:47, 3:26:59]: In a life for your constitutional rights. So please vote. Regardless of who you vote for, you need to go vote. Now, in reference to T-SPLOST, I will tell you you need to vote yes for T-SPLOST, transportation, special options. [3:27:00, 3:27:03]: Local sales tax, right? You have to do that. [3:27:03, 3:27:11]: Uh that if you do that, the city of Stockbridge over a five-year period would get roughly a little more than thirty million dollars. [3:27:11, 3:27:31]: Okay, that that would be for road expansion. Say, for instance, uh, that's just a little penny additional penny tax on the dollar, sales tax on the dollar for everything that is bought in the county. And that includes folks that are traveling through and or visitors, or my sister comes to visit me and goes shopping, she gets taxed that penny additional penny tax as well, along with all the citizens here. [3:27:31, 3:27:35]: Listen, thirty million dollars, almost thirty point five million dollars is projected over five year period. [3:27:36, 3:27:38]: If we pass and we must do so. [3:27:38, 3:27:43]: what that's going to do for us give an idea that would take uh the rock quarry widening [3:27:43, 3:27:58]: From Hudson Bridge Road to Hospital Drive to service route 138, which is North Hernan Boulevard, and we'll share that cost with the county. All right. And uh so we need to do that. We need to expand that and and widen that road for transportation purposes. [3:27:58, 3:28:10]: All right, that also involves with the county project for the SPLOS. Once we pass it and you vote yes, that deals with the um actually with the Hudson excuse me with the uh [3:28:10, 3:28:30]: Rockquarry widening as well. Uh excuse me, Rockquarry widening from Hudson Bridge Road to Hospital Drive, 138. Also Hudson Bridge Road, E. L. Parkway, resurfacing to from Willis Drive to Service Route 42. That's a joint project with the county. Something good that we're doing with them as well. So that's what would happen. And those projects. [3:28:30, 3:28:50]: Projects together involve uh well with the uh Hudson Bridge Road, Eagles Landing, and that is combined with the county, roughly um uh quite a little under$2 million for that one. And then of course the the uh Rock Roy writing project to Hudson Bridge Road with the uh with the actual uh county. [3:28:50, 3:29:10]: Uh that is roughly uh$25 million to do that. And now, and following that, of course, would be the extension. We're looking at the extension of Rock Quarry that would go uh north uh from the intersection of North Henry Boulevard, cross O'Conyas Road, and and swing around to hit uh Valley. [3:29:10, 3:29:10]: [12551.3, 12557.8]: So that's also projected and and in that funding uh once we pass this uh TLUS on November 2nd. [3:29:18, 3:29:22]: Or you can go tomorrow and vote and pass start passing it right there tomorrow because the the the polls will be open. [3:29:23, 3:29:43]: The other thing that's will happen with this uh thirty million dollars that we will get once you say yes to split T Splash, right, is that we got our trail network and uh that would be a span of within the within the city. We got additional um uh sidewalks and curbing and pedestrian walkways that'll be added through. [3:29:43, 3:29:49]: The county, screw through the city as well. Trails such as Reese Creek Trail extension. [3:29:49, 3:29:51]: The Bush Creek Trail extension. [3:29:51, 3:30:06]: Rum Creek Trail Extension, Patrick Henry Parkway, East Atlanta Road, and North Henry Boulevard, all part of the trail process. And we're talking about uh uh different types of Walt Stevens Road that'll be involved, Oak the Red Oak Road, Oak Honyers. [3:30:07, 3:30:27]: Flip and roll, Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail, all part of the trail network, even though we we we authorize a$1 million bond, but this will be also additional funds from T Splots to help with the transportation process. And then you're gonna take a look at all the other cities and the under underserved community part of stock bridge with uh curbs and butt gutter and [3:30:27, 3:30:47]: sidewalks, pedestrian walkways, crossways to keep people safe, the connectivity that we'll have between our communities uh and and leading people downtown this aspect as well. Um so we need to do this folks. You need to vote yes. And we'll continue to uh emphasize this all through the campaign, all through the election season. So please. [3:30:47, 3:30:59]: uh vote yes on this as well. We need it. We need uh the dollars and we need and matter of fact if we don't do this we're all gonna suffer everybody will suffer if it doesn't pass countywide we're all gonna suffer the next five years or more [3:30:59, 3:31:03]: And so uh let's uh let's uh make ourselves happy and pass this, please. [3:31:04, 3:31:07]: Uh one other thing I'd like to mention is that um [3:31:08, 3:31:24]: Uh as you as you probably will know now our city manager Brandy Knight has moved on to another different assignment. Uh he's now uh going to be signed uh and work for Roswell City Government. Uh so we are now actively in the process of finding our next city manager. And hopefully we'll be able to accomplish this within the next three. [3:31:24, 3:31:40]: a month or so and in the first part of the year we'll should have one on site. So have a new new uh city manager. So we're looking forward to that in this aspect. Uh so we we're we're missing that for right now, but we'll continue to move forward with the help of the staff and the council we'll continue to move the city forward in this aspect as well. [3:31:41, 3:31:48]: On that note, I'll uh end on my particular comments and I'll go to announce Mr. Upcoming meetings. Next city council. [3:31:49, 3:31:49]: Yeah. [3:31:50, 3:32:02]: Yes. Real quick, I just want to make sure that we we're we're being very clear. Stockbridge's voting location will be Merrill Mandas, but Henry election is going to be open for early voting too. Is that correct? [3:32:03, 3:32:08]: I'm sorry. Yes. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry. Yes, you can early early voting can ha happen now at the uh [3:32:09, 3:32:28]: um down at downtown um uh it's on forty forty eleven forty eleven street right forty last donna i guess you could you do that if you're you can also vote uh but it's in uh locust growth in happened if you're all the way if you're down there as well on this aspect. What are the addresses off top your head miss holiday yeah for the additional for early voting that is if you have those handy [3:32:28, 3:32:31]: Uh Fortson Library and also in Hampton. [3:32:32, 3:32:35]: Forty Atlanta Street, McDonough, and Merrill Manders Conference Center. [3:32:36, 3:32:45]: Okay. For the early voting, which is twelve October to thirty October. Correct. And that includes the Saturdays, seven to seven. That includes those Saturdays as well. [3:32:46, 3:32:48]: Well Saturdays are Saturdays are not seven to seven. [3:32:49, 3:32:55]: Saturdays are nine to five and the one there's two Saturdays and then one Sunday is one to five. [3:32:56, 3:33:01]: What what what date I don't have in front of what date do you know the date of the I don't have that in front of me, Mayor, but [3:33:01, 3:33:06]: It's on a website. The schedule is on the city's website. It's on the website, ladies and gentlemen. Schedule's on the website, okay? [3:33:06, 3:33:26]: So um early voting 12 tomorrow, 12 October to 30 October. Please vote. Your constitutional right. Um city council meeting at 6 p.m. via Zoom, uh second Monday of each month, which is gonna be uh October 11th, which is tonight. Main Street Advisory Board has uh rescheduled to meet at 9 a.m. by way of zoom on October 15th. [3:33:27, 3:33:32]: youth council meeting is five thirty by way of zoom second Wednesday of each month, which is October thirteenth. [3:33:33, 3:33:38]: Downtown Evelyn Authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is October 19th. [3:33:39, 3:33:52]: Uh the youth council advisory meeting is 6 30 by way of zoom, third Tuesday of each month, 19 October. The city council work session by 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, last Tuesday of each month, uh which will be 25 October. [3:33:52, 3:34:00]: And the planning commission meeting is 6:30 by way of Zune, fourth Thursday of each month, which is 28th October. [3:34:00, 3:34:10]: And please join Councilwoman Barber at the Marmano's Conference Center for Free Zuma Fitness in the Park Saturdays at 8 a.m. at the Clark uh Park Pavilion A, B, and C. [3:34:11, 3:34:21]: Please join Councilman Barber once again at Normand's Conference Center Saturday, uh this coming Saturday, October 16th from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. for a blood drive partnership with the Lifesto. [3:34:22, 3:34:29]: A pretty and pink love walk Saturday, October 16th, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. at Clark Park, uh walking trail located one one. [3:34:29, 3:34:37]: One Davis Road and Forest and Star Ridge, and special tribute to co-founder of this particular uh pretty and pink glove walk, CC McGee. [3:34:38, 3:34:45]: Uh Stockbridge Amateur concert featuring award-winning artist Freddie Jackson and Chaka Khan, the main event. [3:34:45, 3:34:51]: Saturday, October twenty third, eight PM. Matter of fact, if you haven't got your ticket yet, go to StockbridgeAMP dot com. [3:34:52, 3:34:57]: And see what's available and purchase your ticket. Once again, Stockbridgeamp.com. [3:34:57, 3:35:03]: And uh find out what's available, purchase a ticket and come and hang out and enjoy the concert of these two outstanding entertainers. [3:35:04, 3:35:09]: And it's opportunity to meet the mayor and voice your questions and concerns on Monday, October twenty fifth. [3:35:10, 3:35:21]: 10 a.m. to noon and uh that'll be virtual and you need to call city hall and schedule an appointment with Zenobia Pearson and you can do that by 777-389-7900. [3:35:21, 3:35:27]: On that note, uh council, do we need to go to Zecklar session at all? Um do we have a motion to go to Zecklar session? [3:35:30, 3:35:37]: All right, I've no one's motion, so we need a motion to end our uh council meeting. So move there a second. [3:35:37, 3:35:40]: Our second. Okay. All third, please indicate. [3:35:41, 3:35:48]: It looks like we have an amusement decision. Okay. Goodbye, everybody. God bless you all. Stay safe. Have a good safe good night, evening, week. [3:35:49, 3:35:51]: Good night. Good night.

--- title: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting date: 2021-10-08 source: 2021-10-08_Main_Street_Advisory_Board_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: We're able to um [0:00:03, 0:00:08]: We're able to get um that hashed out before our meeting. Um we are calling our [0:00:09, 0:00:16]: October fifteenth, twenty twenty-one, Main Street Advisory Board Board meeting to order at nine oh six AM. [0:00:16, 0:00:27]: Uh we will begin by taking a roll call. Uh if when you hear your name, if you can please acknowledge your presence uh so that we are knowing who is here with us today. [0:00:28, 0:00:30]: Or aware of who is here with us today. [0:00:30, 0:00:33]: Uh Miss Rocio Camacho. [0:00:34, 0:00:35]: I'm saying [0:00:36, 0:00:36]: Thank you. [0:00:37, 0:00:38]: Miss Pryor Finley. [0:00:41, 0:00:41]: Prayer. [0:00:42, 0:00:43]: Thank you. [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: Mr. Shamari Firch. [0:00:46, 0:00:47]: Present. [0:00:47, 0:00:48]: Thank you. [0:00:48, 0:00:50]: Miss Vanessa Gibson. [0:00:52, 0:00:52]: Present. [0:00:53, 0:00:56]: Thank you, Mr. Willie Hopkins. [0:00:56, 0:00:57]: Present. [0:00:57, 0:00:59]: Thank you. Mr. Greg Hortzon. [0:01:01, 0:01:02]: Right. [0:01:02, 0:01:05]: Thank you. Miss Linda Jones. [0:01:09, 0:01:10]: Miss Linda Jones. [0:01:13, 0:01:15]: Anika Potts, I am present. [0:01:16, 0:01:19]: Miss Mildred Reed. Present. [0:01:19, 0:01:20]: Thank you. [0:01:20, 0:01:22]: Miss Barber Richardson. [0:01:27, 0:01:28]: Barber Richardson. [0:01:32, 0:01:34]: Mr. Alfonso Thomas. [0:01:34, 0:01:35]: President. [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: Thank you, sir. [0:01:38, 0:01:51]: And I do um understand we have um city staff with us today of um manager of Main Street program, Miss Braggs, not sure if Miss Ferra is present and um [0:01:54, 0:01:57]: And we also have [0:01:57, 0:02:00]: I think who uh I think Keller Peterson. [0:02:01, 0:02:18]: Mr. Peterson. I'm like, I know someone else is here. Mr. Peterson is present. All right. Thank you for that. Roll call has been completed and we do have a quorum. Um, Mrs. Brax. Um, I would love to go ahead and read our mission statement for the Mainsheet Advisory Board. Um [0:02:19, 0:02:23]: Oh excuse me, advisory board. Our mission is that the main street [0:02:24, 0:02:35]: Program is to design and support an identifiable downtown historic district that promotes economic vitality, cultivates artistic expression. [0:02:35, 0:02:37]: Encourages cultural enrichment. [0:02:38, 0:02:40]: And nurtures community spirit. [0:02:40, 0:02:46]: So let's allow that mission to um be with us as we work through our meeting today. [0:02:47, 0:02:53]: We're gonna move on to item number two in our agenda, which is to review and approve the meeting. [0:02:53, 0:02:54]: Agenda. [0:02:54, 0:02:57]: This information was sent to you yesterday for review. [0:02:57, 0:02:58]: Uh [0:02:58, 0:03:03]: Is there any questions or concerns regarding the October meeting agenda as presented? [0:03:08, 0:03:14]: Okay, hearing none, can we please have a motion to approve the meeting agenda for October 21? [0:03:15, 0:03:16]: as presented. [0:03:18, 0:03:20]: Mm well cheer. [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: Yes, sir. [0:03:21, 0:03:26]: I move that we accept the September tenth, two thousand twenty one meetings as presented. [0:03:27, 0:03:30]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. Do I have a second? [0:03:31, 0:03:32]: A second. [0:03:33, 0:03:34]: Thank you, Mr. Hurch. [0:03:35, 0:03:44]: We will go through to find out if you are in favor or or opposition of this motion. Um, if you can please say yes or no when your name is called. [0:03:45, 0:03:46]: Miss Camacho. [0:03:46, 0:03:47]: Yes. [0:03:47, 0:03:49]: Thank you, Miss Stanley. [0:03:53, 0:03:56]: Apologies. I'm s I didn't I didn't even hear it. Um [0:03:57, 0:03:59]: You're fine on the the motion. [0:04:00, 0:04:02]: Oh yeah, I'm hold on one second, one second. [0:04:04, 0:04:08]: You're fine. Okay. Um go ahead. [0:04:09, 0:04:22]: Yes, it has been moved and properly seconded that we approve the um October fifteenth, twenty twenty-one agenda as presented. And we're looking to see if you are in favor of that or against that. [0:04:23, 0:04:24]: Yes. [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: Okay, thank you, ma'am. [0:04:26, 0:04:27]: Um, Mr. First. [0:04:28, 0:04:28]: Yes. [0:04:29, 0:04:30]: Thank you, sir. [0:04:30, 0:04:31]: Miss Gibson? [0:04:31, 0:04:32]: Yes. [0:04:32, 0:04:34]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:04:35, 0:04:35]: Yes, okay. [0:04:35, 0:04:37]: Thank you, Mr. Horton. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Yes. [0:04:42, 0:04:47]: Thank you, sir. Ms. Potts, yes, I agree. Miss Reed. Yes. [0:04:48, 0:04:49]: Thank you. And Mr. Thomas. [0:04:50, 0:04:51]: Yes. [0:04:51, 0:04:53]: Thank you. Motion carries. [0:04:54, 0:05:00]: Uh we will now move on to our third agenda item, which is to review and approve the meeting minutes for Mount September. [0:05:00, 0:05:02]: Two thousand twenty one meeting. [0:05:02, 0:05:07]: Uh again, this information or this um document was sent to you yesterday for review. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: Um we will take um [0:05:09, 0:05:18]: 20 seconds to allow for any questions, concerns that need to be presented regarding these meeting meeting minutes. [0:05:18, 0:05:19]: Any discussion? [0:05:21, 0:05:24]: My name was spelled wrong twice. [0:05:24, 0:05:25]: Oh, okay. [0:05:27, 0:05:34]: Okay, it um probably the spell check hit it. Where are those um notes? Um [0:05:34, 0:05:38]: Prayer. I see it's spelled correctly in the attendance, but is it spelled? [0:05:39, 0:05:42]: And I see it's in the swearing in ceremony. [0:05:43, 0:05:45]: That's actually the incorrect spelling. [0:05:45, 0:05:48]: Okay, what is the spelling, please? [0:05:48, 0:05:56]: And it's funny, yeah, because it was actually correct on the um in the in the small business Saturday. That's the correct spelling, F I N L E Y. [0:05:56, 0:06:04]: So there were two other instances in the uh board members in attendance and in the school. Okay. The last name. Okay. I was thinking it was the first name. [0:06:04, 0:06:08]: No, and that's you know, that's the funny part'cause usually it is the first name Meggets. [0:06:10, 0:06:12]: Okay. I see it. I see it. [0:06:12, 0:06:13]: Yep, yep. [0:06:14, 0:06:16]: Mildred and I will make a note of that. [0:06:16, 0:06:21]: Okay. And since since we're talking about spelling, um [0:06:21, 0:06:29]: The L and the F in Elf's Cakery is actually capital because those are initials. And that was in the swearing in uh part two. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: Okay. [0:06:32, 0:06:32]: I see it. [0:06:33, 0:06:35]: Mildred, do you see that as well? [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Okay. [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: She's on mute. [0:06:42, 0:06:46]: You're on mute, Mildred, but I see you n nodding your head. Okay. [0:06:47, 0:06:49]: All right, we'll make those changes, prayer. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: All right, sounds good. [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: Thank you. [0:06:52, 0:06:52]: Yeah. [0:06:55, 0:06:58]: Any other um points for discussion? [0:07:04, 0:07:14]: Okay, great. Hearing none, can we please have a motion to accept the September 10, 2021 meeting minutes with said corrections? [0:07:16, 0:07:22]: Madam Chair, I re uh I move that we accept the September 10th meeting with the necessary corrections. [0:07:23, 0:07:25]: Thank you, sir. Do we have a second? [0:07:29, 0:07:30]: I'll second that. [0:07:31, 0:07:32]: Thank you. Is that Miss Camacho? [0:07:34, 0:07:34]: Correct. [0:07:35, 0:07:39]: Thank you. I'm sorry I'm on my phone so I can't see everyone. I apologize for that. [0:07:39, 0:07:52]: All right, great. Uh so the motion has been properly moved in seconds. We will now move to um your the voting for this particular motion. If you're in favor, please say yes. If not, please say no. Ms. Camacho. [0:07:53, 0:07:53]: Yes. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: Thank you. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: Miss Finley? [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Yes, thank you. [0:07:59, 0:08:00]: Mr. Kirch. [0:08:03, 0:08:04]: Yes. [0:08:04, 0:08:05]: Thank you, sir. [0:08:05, 0:08:06]: Miss Gibson? [0:08:07, 0:08:10]: Yes. Thank you, ma'am. Mr. Hopkins. [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: Yes. [0:08:11, 0:08:14]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Horton. [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: Yes. [0:08:17, 0:08:18]: Thank you, sir. [0:08:19, 0:08:20]: I have to run the meeting. [0:08:21, 0:08:35]: Oh, hello, Ms. Jones. Thank you for your presence. Um, would you like to vote um weigh in on this motion? Are you in favor or opposing that we move with the uh approving the amendments as presented with the necessary corrections? [0:08:35, 0:08:36]: Yes. [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:08:37, 0:08:38]: Uh Miss Reed? [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Yes. [0:08:41, 0:08:41]: Thank you. [0:08:42, 0:08:44]: Miss Richardson, have you joined the meeting? [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: Okay. [0:08:47, 0:08:49]: We'll move on to Mr. Thomas. [0:08:49, 0:08:51]: Yes. Thank you, sir. [0:08:52, 0:08:53]: So moved. [0:08:53, 0:09:03]: And our final area that needs to be a review area of attention that needs review and approval is our financial statement from s for September 2021. [0:09:06, 0:09:09]: Again, this information has been sent to you uh prior to the meeting for review. [0:09:10, 0:09:16]: Uh any questions, concerns, or needs need uh points of clarification by anyone or for anyone? [0:09:29, 0:09:31]: All right, hearing none. [0:09:31, 0:09:32]: Um [0:09:33, 0:09:37]: You will please have a motion to accept the income statement. [0:09:37, 0:09:38]: Or um [0:09:39, 0:09:42]: Fiscal year ending [0:09:43, 0:09:46]: Oc September thirtieth of twenty twenty one, as presented. [0:09:48, 0:09:56]: Madam Chair, I move that we accept the income statement for physical year 2021 for 930, 2021, and place in the archives for future auditing purposes. [0:09:57, 0:09:59]: Thank you, sir. I would second that motion. [0:10:01, 0:10:03]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [0:10:04, 0:10:10]: All right, all those in favor, uh please acknowledge by saying yes. Any opposition, please say no. [0:10:10, 0:10:12]: Um Miss Camacho. [0:10:12, 0:10:13]: Yes. [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: Thank you. Miss Finley. [0:10:15, 0:10:18]: Yes. Thank you. Mr. Firch. [0:10:18, 0:10:19]: Yes. [0:10:19, 0:10:20]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [0:10:21, 0:10:22]: Yes. [0:10:22, 0:10:24]: Thank you, Miss Hop Mr. Hopkins. [0:10:25, 0:10:25]: Yes, ma'am. [0:10:26, 0:10:28]: Thank you. Mr. Horton. [0:10:31, 0:10:31]: Yes. [0:10:32, 0:10:33]: Thank you. Miss Jones? [0:10:34, 0:10:34]: Yes. [0:10:35, 0:10:37]: Uh Miss Potts, yes. Miss Reed? [0:10:37, 0:10:38]: Yes. [0:10:38, 0:10:39]: Thank you. [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: Mr. Thomas. [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Yeah. [0:10:42, 0:10:43]: Thank you, sir. [0:10:44, 0:10:44]: Um [0:10:44, 0:10:55]: Our motion has probably been moved and approved. Um, thank you for your time and I will now move the meeting over to our main street manager for her report, Ms. Braggs. [0:10:56, 0:11:05]: Thank you, Ms. Potts. And thank you, everyone, again. Good morning. We are happy to have you all here with us. [0:11:05, 0:11:07]: And we appreciate your time. [0:11:07, 0:11:10]: I'm gonna try to be um quick with my report. [0:11:11, 0:11:11]: Um [0:11:12, 0:11:16]: We have housekeeping items that we need to just quickly tick off. [0:11:17, 0:11:25]: Thank you. First, I want to say thank you to all of you for your flexibility and allowing us to change the meeting time from our regularly scheduled. [0:11:25, 0:11:29]: Second Friday of the month to the third Friday of of the month. [0:11:29, 0:11:34]: I had to go out of town to um see my daughter who's away in college in Florida. [0:11:35, 0:11:43]: And so I had a scheduling conflict that I am um very um thankful to all of you for being able to accommodate. [0:11:43, 0:11:45]: Uh moving the meeting. [0:11:45, 0:11:50]: Um I sent everyone your statement of intent forms. [0:11:50, 0:11:58]: Um, please complete those and return them to me as soon as you possibly can. I would like to get them. [0:11:58, 0:12:00]: Um ба октобер твої найт. [0:12:01, 0:12:06]: Um please consider whether or not you would like to continue with the your participation. [0:12:06, 0:12:09]: On the Main Street advisory board. [0:12:09, 0:12:16]: If you have questions about when your formal term ends, you can contact me and I will um [0:12:16, 0:12:20]: Check those records and um let you know when your particular [0:12:21, 0:12:26]: um term ends. This is something that we do at the end of every year. [0:12:26, 0:12:31]: Um, just in case there are people who are unable to complete their term. [0:12:31, 0:12:35]: Or um are at the end of their term and do not want to [0:12:35, 0:12:40]: um re up as you will um to participate for an additional um term. [0:12:41, 0:12:46]: If your term is ending, we do have to have you reappointed to the board if that is your desire. [0:12:47, 0:12:52]: Um new board members, this is just a reminder that it is required. [0:12:52, 0:12:55]: Паве Стейт Офис о Донтаун Девелопмент. [0:12:55, 0:13:03]: For all Main Street board members to have taken the Main Street 101 training within the first year of their appointment. [0:13:03, 0:13:10]: Um, so if you know that you have not taken that, I know that Vanessa and Prayer have not. [0:13:10, 0:13:14]: Um taking that yet since they just joined last month. So they have a little bit of time. [0:13:15, 0:13:18]: But um our other new members um [0:13:18, 0:13:21]: Need to make sure that they get that training. [0:13:21, 0:13:22]: Um [0:13:22, 0:13:25]: Taken care of before the year ends. [0:13:25, 0:13:30]: Please if you have any questions about that or uh we went over that in our [0:13:31, 0:13:36]: Um orientation meeting, new member orientation meeting. But if you have any questions about that. [0:13:37, 0:13:41]: Or need um instructions on how to um go to the website. [0:13:41, 0:13:59]: please let me know and give me a call or send me an email and we'll go over that step by step. It is a self-paced step um test. So you can take your time in doing it, but it is the materials are kind of lengthy. So it's not something that you can do [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: uh at a last minute type thing. You have to [0:14:02, 0:14:06]: Um s take some time out of your schedule, cut some time out. [0:14:06, 0:14:10]: To be able to go through the materials and take the little tests. [0:14:10, 0:14:13]: that um are after it. It's a multiple choice test. [0:14:13, 0:14:20]: And you have to score at least seventy percent or above on it to pass the test to be certified. [0:14:20, 0:14:23]: This um test does have a fee. [0:14:23, 0:14:27]: But that fee will be covered by the Main Street program. [0:14:27, 0:14:32]: So when you are ready to take the test, let me know so that we can make sure that [0:14:32, 0:14:34]: Um, payment is in place. [0:14:34, 0:14:37]: So that you can get your certification documentation. [0:14:38, 0:14:39]: So [0:14:39, 0:14:42]: Again, that has to be done before the end of the year. [0:14:43, 0:14:44]: Uh before the [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: First [0:14:45, 0:14:50]: The end of your first year as a Main Street Advisory Board member. So within the first year. [0:14:50, 0:15:05]: of your appointment. Um Mildred, did you have a question? A comment. I just wanted to share. I mean I know I'm off mute now, but Vanessa Gibson needs to mute her button. I'm hearing some little noise in the background and I realize that Nika's not on mute. [0:15:06, 0:15:10]: Okay. It's it's it's corrected now. Thank you. Okay. [0:15:10, 0:15:14]: All right, thank you, Mildred. Um Anika, did you have a question? [0:15:14, 0:15:22]: Yes, I just came off mute and had a question for the same concern just to ensure that we um if we're not speaking, that we please remain on mute. [0:15:22, 0:15:34]: Um, and I know Mr. Peterson said he had to leave for meetings. I didn't know if he had anything he needed to share with the group before he departed. I just wanted to ensure we had those two things addressed before you continued. Thank you. [0:15:34, 0:15:35]: Okay. [0:15:37, 0:15:43]: Mr. Peterson, did you have anything that you wanted to share before um you left the meeting? [0:15:43, 0:16:03]: Uh yes. Uh just shortly. Um I have a meeting uh later on today. Um the RSVP plan will be discussed as it pertains to real estate. We had a great meeting on last week uh with the business recruitment and retention committee. And after I get some information [0:16:04, 0:16:11]: Uh, from this meeting, I'm gonna send an update to the members uh delegating tasks, but uh we meet the first Monday of every month. [0:16:12, 0:16:13]: Um [0:16:13, 0:16:17]: If you're not on the committee, you're open to to join. And if you have any questions. [0:16:17, 0:16:21]: about what we're doing and and what we plan to do, please shoot me an email or give me a call. [0:16:23, 0:16:24]: Okay. [0:16:25, 0:16:30]: So you all are at the first Monday of every month for business and rec recruitment and retention. [0:16:31, 0:16:31]: And [0:16:32, 0:16:32]: Um [0:16:33, 0:16:36]: You said also what time you all meet at six. [0:16:38, 0:16:41]: Yes. Okay. Just wanted to make sure we had a time check on that. [0:16:45, 0:16:47]: Okay, thank you, Mr. Peterson. [0:16:48, 0:16:52]: All right. Um that's all that I had um with regard to the [0:16:53, 0:16:59]: um training and then I know that I owe the new members um their board [0:16:59, 0:17:00]: Books [0:17:00, 0:17:06]: So those have not been completed yet, unfortunately. I will get those to you as soon as um [0:17:07, 0:17:09]: We can pool those together and [0:17:09, 0:17:12]: I will let you all know when they're ready for pickup. [0:17:12, 0:17:13]: Uh Mildred. [0:17:13, 0:17:22]: Yes, just I want to make sure I heard correctly because I got distracted. Uh the downtown business recruitment and retention, he said the first Monday or the third Monday. [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: The it's the first Monday he said. [0:17:26, 0:17:30]: Okay, um and we need to map okay the agenda. I'm sorry. [0:17:30, 0:17:34]: Yeah, that's true. Thank you. [0:17:34, 0:17:35]: Um [0:17:36, 0:17:37]: Madam Chair. [0:17:38, 0:17:38]: Yeah. [0:17:39, 0:17:41]: This is Councilman Thomas, Madam Chair. [0:17:41, 0:17:43]: Yes, sir. Um [0:17:44, 0:17:46]: Mr. Peterson, um [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: Would you please send me uh some information updates? [0:17:50, 0:17:53]: Um from your committee. This is Councilman Thomas. [0:17:54, 0:17:56]: Yes, sir. We'll do. [0:17:56, 0:18:00]: Thank you, sir. You can just email it to me. I appreciate any update. [0:18:00, 0:18:02]: Updated material that you have. [0:18:02, 0:18:03]: All right. [0:18:03, 0:18:04]: Thank you. [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: And uh thank you, Madam Chair. [0:18:07, 0:18:09]: Yes, sir. No problem. [0:18:15, 0:18:15]: Okay. [0:18:16, 0:18:19]: And now I will go into um [0:18:19, 0:18:22]: Old business with regard to my report. [0:18:22, 0:18:27]: Um and that's a good segue. We were talking about the work plan um committees. [0:18:27, 0:18:30]: As um mister Peterson mentioned. [0:18:31, 0:18:33]: The downtown business recruitment and retention meeting. [0:18:34, 0:18:35]: Uh committee has met. [0:18:36, 0:18:39]: And the downtown tourism product development um [0:18:40, 0:18:41]: committee has met. [0:18:42, 0:18:48]: The two committees that have not yet met are the downtown connectivity and design and downtown beautification. [0:18:48, 0:18:50]: And activation meetings. [0:18:50, 0:18:55]: Um those meetings had to be postponed um due to some scheduling conflicts that [0:18:56, 0:18:58]: I had um it's been a really [0:18:58, 0:18:59]: Really busy. [0:19:00, 0:19:05]: Um, end of the month for Lisa and myself and beginning of this month. [0:19:05, 0:19:08]: So I do apologize for um [0:19:08, 0:19:10]: having to move those meetings off. [0:19:10, 0:19:12]: Um to next month, but [0:19:12, 0:19:19]: Please um write these dates down for the downtown connectivity and design meeting is gonna be Tuesday. [0:19:19, 0:19:20]: November the second. [0:19:21, 0:19:23]: That's the first Tuesday of the month. [0:19:23, 0:19:25]: А сик п. [0:19:25, 0:19:31]: And then the downtown beautification and activation committee will be Wednesday. [0:19:31, 0:19:35]: November the tenth, which is the second Tuesday of the month. [0:19:35, 0:19:39]: Both meetings will be at six PM and I will send out [0:19:39, 0:19:40]: The um [0:19:41, 0:19:44]: Zoom information for you all to log in. [0:19:44, 0:19:47]: on those particular meetings if those are your committees. [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: So again, um [0:19:49, 0:19:51]: А тэн юофо є флесибилі. [0:19:51, 0:19:53]: An understanding with regard to [0:19:54, 0:19:57]: Самодіс метин час да окр. [0:19:58, 0:19:59]: Over the last month. [0:20:01, 0:20:02]: You see my [0:20:02, 0:20:13]: Yes, ma'am. Sorry to interrupt. Have a quick question regarding um the downtown beautification activate activation committee. Is it Wednesday the 10th or is it [0:20:13, 0:20:26]: Tuesday the ninth. It's gonna be Wednesday the tenth. I'm so I'm glad you brought that up and I had it highlighted here. That particular meeting is gonna be on Wednesday because again, I'm going to be I have another scheduling cover. I'm gonna be out of town. [0:20:27, 0:20:32]: Um on that Tuesday. So it'll be just for next month. It'll be on a Wednesday. [0:20:32, 0:20:39]: Um November the tenth and then it'll go back to the Tuesdays for the regular monthly meeting. Thank you for pointing that out. [0:20:40, 0:20:41]: Okay, thank you for clarifying. [0:20:42, 0:20:43]: Not Kira. [0:20:44, 0:20:45]: Yasmea. [0:20:45, 0:20:47]: What was the first um [0:20:48, 0:20:51]: Board meeting you you said on November the second it [0:20:51, 0:20:55]: That's the Downtown Connectivity and Design Committee meeting. [0:20:56, 0:20:56]: Okay. [0:20:57, 0:20:58]: Okay. [0:20:58, 0:21:03]: Downtown beautification and activation are on that Wednesday, November 10th. [0:21:04, 0:21:07]: Thank you. And both will meet at six PM. You're welcome. [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: Okay, anyone else? [0:21:11, 0:21:11]: All right. [0:21:13, 0:21:16]: So that concludes the um old business that I had. [0:21:16, 0:21:20]: uh with regard to um new business [0:21:20, 0:21:22]: We have received um two. [0:21:23, 0:21:26]: Um request one is for [0:21:26, 0:21:27]: Um [0:21:29, 0:21:29]: They [0:21:30, 0:21:33]: Sigma gamma rose aurority has [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: is interested in sponsoring [0:21:36, 0:21:37]: Um a little free library. [0:21:38, 0:21:39]: Um [0:21:39, 0:21:46]: I have pitched the little free library that is planned for the dog park location in Clark Park. [0:21:47, 0:21:53]: Um, they have stated that they are interested in being a part of the program and [0:21:53, 0:21:55]: Would like to um [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: Come on board with that. [0:21:58, 0:22:00]: And so I wanted to present that to. [0:22:01, 0:22:02]: Our um membership. [0:22:03, 0:22:04]: To [0:22:04, 0:22:07]: See if that was something that you all would be in favor of. [0:22:08, 0:22:10]: Um basically [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: The [0:22:11, 0:22:17]: Um c they would cover the cost of creating the um box, all of the materials needed. [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: For creation of the box, and then they would. [0:22:21, 0:22:23]: put in the first um [0:22:24, 0:22:28]: supply of books for that particular location. [0:22:32, 0:22:36]: So I need to know from you all if that is a um [0:22:36, 0:22:39]: partnership that you all are interested in. [0:22:39, 0:22:41]: um entertaining. [0:22:41, 0:22:44]: Um madam director, this is uh [0:22:44, 0:22:47]: Billy Hopkins, I think this is a great partnership. [0:22:47, 0:22:48]: With um [0:22:49, 0:22:56]: City McGovern Raw, hopefully in the future we'll get all the divine nine a part of this initiative. So I think it's a great partnership. [0:22:57, 0:22:58]: Okay. [0:22:59, 0:23:02]: So is that a motion to move forward with that? [0:23:04, 0:23:05]: Uh I will move. [0:23:06, 0:23:12]: I make the motion. Uh I move that we partner with the Senate McGamba Rose to support a free little library at Clark Park. [0:23:14, 0:23:16]: At the cost of at the cost. [0:23:16, 0:23:17]: Oh, Simon Gambah Red. [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: Okay. [0:23:18, 0:23:21]: I second. Councilman Thomas, I second. [0:23:22, 0:23:22]: Right. [0:23:23, 0:23:30]: I would like to add just to discussion that um this is a great idea and when we look back to our mission. [0:23:30, 0:23:39]: Um prior to our meeting, I know there there was a little discussion that I kind of got to tell in of that we wanted to ensure that everything we do, we don't forget our mission. [0:23:39, 0:23:44]: That cultivating artistic expression is checked off with this particular um endeavor. [0:23:44, 0:23:47]: Um uh nurturing our community spirit. [0:23:47, 0:23:48]: Um [0:23:48, 0:23:49]: And [0:23:50, 0:24:03]: indirectly, it could bring in some economic vitality if someone is in that area and then they pop over to our downtown area. So just didn't want us to lose um sight of our mission when we make decisions. Thank you. [0:24:03, 0:24:04]: Okay. [0:24:05, 0:24:05]: Thank you. [0:24:08, 0:24:11]: Okay. You'll have to call for the vote. [0:24:12, 0:24:14]: Yes, is there any additional discussion? [0:24:16, 0:24:22]: Okay, hearing none, we'd like um you when you hear your name to please acknowledge if you're for this um [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: move motion to carry. Um Miss Camacho. [0:24:26, 0:24:27]: Yes. [0:24:27, 0:24:29]: Thank you, Miss Finley. [0:24:30, 0:24:32]: Yes, thank you. [0:24:32, 0:24:33]: Mr. Firch. [0:24:34, 0:24:34]: Yes. [0:24:35, 0:24:36]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [0:24:37, 0:24:38]: Yes. [0:24:38, 0:24:38]: Thank you. [0:24:40, 0:24:41]: Mr. Hopkins. [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: Yes. [0:24:42, 0:24:43]: Thank you, Mr. Horton. [0:24:46, 0:24:47]: Yes. [0:24:47, 0:24:49]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [0:24:50, 0:24:50]: Yes. [0:24:52, 0:24:55]: Thank you. Miss Potts is myself, yes. Miss Reed? [0:24:55, 0:24:56]: Yes. [0:24:56, 0:24:58]: Thank you, Mr. Thomas. [0:24:59, 0:25:00]: Yes. [0:25:00, 0:25:01]: Thank you. [0:25:01, 0:25:04]: Um it has been properly moved and [0:25:04, 0:25:08]: And it carries and second it. Thank you. And I return it back to Ms. Brux. [0:25:09, 0:25:14]: Okay, thank you very much. Um the other item that we have um [0:25:15, 0:25:16]: Із um [0:25:18, 0:25:23]: A partnership request with the Stockbridge Um Youth Council. [0:25:24, 0:25:27]: Um, they are looking to host [0:25:27, 0:25:30]: A drive in movie? [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: Um they are [0:25:33, 0:25:37]: Planning for that to be a holiday drive in movie in the [0:25:37, 0:25:38]: Um [0:25:38, 0:25:41]: I guess tentative date of they have to get [0:25:41, 0:25:42]: Permission from [0:25:43, 0:25:44]: The city council [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: Would be [0:25:46, 0:25:49]: Um December the eighteenth, I think it is. [0:25:49, 0:25:51]: Yes, December eighteenth. [0:25:51, 0:25:56]: And they are asking for the Main Street ev um program. [0:25:56, 0:26:00]: To partner with them in helping to bring [0:26:00, 0:26:02]: The movie um [0:26:03, 0:26:04]: to the community. [0:26:04, 0:26:11]: Um this would be assistance with the actual cost of the um [0:26:12, 0:26:13]: Movie. [0:26:13, 0:26:18]: They have not selected the movie yet, so that will definitely factor in the cost. [0:26:19, 0:26:20]: And [0:26:20, 0:26:21]: If it's in [0:26:21, 0:26:26]: That means if it's for the licensing, the cost is basically the licensing and [0:26:26, 0:26:29]: having the projection company come and [0:26:29, 0:26:31]: Um, deliver the movie. [0:26:32, 0:26:32]: That [0:26:33, 0:26:36]: will depend on the type of movie that they select. [0:26:36, 0:26:45]: That means, for example, if it is a Disney movie, the cost will be much more than possibly a Pixar movie or a [0:26:45, 0:26:46]: A Dreamworks movie. [0:26:47, 0:26:48]: So [0:26:48, 0:26:53]: I don't have a whole lot of information. This was just brought to me a few days ago. [0:26:55, 0:27:00]: So I don't know if you all are ready to make a decision with regard to that. [0:27:00, 0:27:07]: But from what I understand, they are um needing some assistance with um paying for the movie. [0:27:07, 0:27:09]: They have not um [0:27:09, 0:27:13]: Told me whether or not they would need us to. [0:27:13, 0:27:17]: assist as we have with our movies being on site. [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: Um [0:27:19, 0:27:24]: In the COVID situation, I don't think that they would be doing the popcorn as we usually do. [0:27:24, 0:27:26]: With our movies. [0:27:26, 0:27:30]: Um, but I don't have a whole lot of detail, but the date is the eighteenth. [0:27:31, 0:27:36]: And they are interested in us helping them at least pay for bringing the movie to the com [0:27:36, 0:27:37]: to the community. [0:27:38, 0:27:42]: So is there any discussion or interest in? [0:27:42, 0:27:43]: Um [0:27:43, 0:27:46]: This particular partnership with the Stockbridge Youth. [0:27:46, 0:27:47]: Um [0:27:47, 0:27:48]: Council. [0:27:49, 0:27:55]: Uh madam director, I have a question. Yes, sir. I think I think this is a good initiative. [0:27:55, 0:28:03]: Uh to bring footprints back down to downtown. Anytime we get an opportunity to bring folks to our downtown area, I think it's an opportunity for us to. [0:28:03, 0:28:04]: Um [0:28:04, 0:28:12]: use that that that community connection to the community. So uh but but I have a question. Uh yes sir previous years [0:28:13, 0:28:22]: uh prior to the amphitheater, we normally use the lawn outside of City Hall, but where would this be located now since the amphitheater is up? Is it is gonna be that location, what location, how are they referring to? [0:28:22, 0:28:38]: They are looking at um different location. My recommendation to them was to use the parking lot that has been created by the amphitheater. Um it has numerous spaces and it's on an um incline. So you know they might be able to put [0:28:39, 0:28:44]: movie at the top of the um parking lot and people would be able to park and be able to see. [0:28:44, 0:28:46]: Um the [0:28:46, 0:28:47]: The screen. [0:28:47, 0:28:49]: Фромер карсь. [0:28:49, 0:28:50]: Um [0:28:51, 0:28:58]: Again, they have not made that decision yet, but that was my recommendation since it's a drive in that they are proposing. [0:29:00, 0:29:10]: So it is it is it fair to say that uh prior to them getting approval by the city council for this this this this um [0:29:10, 0:29:22]: the a permit to have the the collaboration go ahead on approve the collaboration so they'll have some stake in the game when they do try to uh get this permit to have this moving. [0:29:24, 0:29:36]: Um is your question uh I wasn't understanding your question. I'm sorry. My question is, is it that they go ahead we go ahead on approval the collaboration with them, the partnership with them prior to them getting the permit? [0:29:36, 0:29:39]: So they know that the main street board is supportive of what they're trying. [0:29:39, 0:29:42]: to accomplish and since they're asking us to be a part of. [0:29:43, 0:29:44]: Okay. [0:29:44, 0:29:55]: Um yes, we could move forward with the recommendation um or approving that we will um work with them in some way, um, which would be yet to be determined. I think that they're asking for [0:29:56, 0:30:02]: uh monetary support and this would be something that we would be able to do through our promotions budget. [0:30:03, 0:30:09]: Um and as you see, we have barely touched that due to the um COVID situation. So we do have [0:30:09, 0:30:12]: Ample funding to be able to [0:30:12, 0:30:14]: Um, assist with that. [0:30:14, 0:30:21]: Um, I don't know if they are asking for assistance on the ground, like feet on the ground with regard to [0:30:21, 0:30:26]: helping um deliver the event like helping people park or [0:30:27, 0:30:30]: distributing refreshments or anything like that. [0:30:30, 0:30:34]: Um that has not been um solidified yet. [0:30:35, 0:30:38]: Have they identified the total amount that they're asking? [0:30:39, 0:30:41]: Um that again is [0:30:41, 0:30:46]: something that would have to be determined by the movie that they select. [0:30:46, 0:30:52]: Um, I had to explain that to them um when they came to me with questions regarding [0:30:52, 0:30:53]: The movie that [0:30:53, 0:30:57]: their cost will be determined by the the movie that they select. [0:30:57, 0:31:02]: again, if they choose a very popular Disney movie, it's gonna cost more. [0:31:02, 0:31:03]: than a [0:31:04, 0:31:05]: Um [0:31:05, 0:31:08]: Ласт єр'з Писар муві, фезму. [0:31:08, 0:31:12]: Um it'll be a family friendly movie, so um [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: Those are usually um priced. [0:31:15, 0:31:15]: Um [0:31:16, 0:31:16]: And uh [0:31:16, 0:31:18]: Anywhere from the [0:31:19, 0:31:20]: five hundred to [0:31:20, 0:31:25]: Um fifteen hundred dollar range based on our experience with hosting the movies. [0:31:25, 0:31:31]: So we could approve an amount up to a certain point if that is what you would like to do. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: Thank you, ma'am, Madam Director. [0:31:37, 0:31:41]: A Nika? Yes. Yes, Kira. So um [0:31:41, 0:31:44]: Because things are not um [0:31:44, 0:31:52]: Defined just yet. Um, could we give them a soft commitment? Um, me and another part of my question is um [0:31:53, 0:32:06]: Will they be meeting with each other and the um the council before our November 12th meeting, where by then they can have their details and would that allow enough time? [0:32:06, 0:32:22]: to get things in place if we um have our details, we know our numbers, we know the location, we know the equity they want from us before the actual event on the 18th. So it kind of feels like if we feel like we want to support it, but without enough details, it's kind of hard to [0:32:23, 0:32:26]: give a commitment, it's maybe what others are thinking. [0:32:26, 0:32:32]: Right. And I understand that. I think that they have a meeting um next week. [0:32:33, 0:32:38]: Um, so they would I can pose, you know, the different questions to them like we've been discussing here. [0:32:39, 0:32:39]: Um [0:32:40, 0:32:42]: you know, the level of commitment, the [0:32:42, 0:32:45]: um level of the monetary support. [0:32:45, 0:32:46]: And um [0:32:47, 0:32:51]: Whether or not they would need us to work the event. [0:32:51, 0:32:52]: Um with them. [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: And they pose those questions to their board. [0:32:57, 0:33:01]: Um, because this was the first time that they're attempting to do this type of activity. [0:33:02, 0:33:04]: I don't think that they realized um [0:33:04, 0:33:05]: Um [0:33:06, 0:33:08]: How much logistics needs to go into it? [0:33:09, 0:33:10]: So um [0:33:11, 0:33:16]: I think it would be best as you and um Mr. Hopkins have stated that we [0:33:17, 0:33:18]: Um [0:33:18, 0:33:23]: move forward with saying that we would like to support them. [0:33:23, 0:33:24]: And [0:33:24, 0:33:27]: With a soft commitment and then um [0:33:27, 0:33:30]: get more details and then make that final decision. [0:33:31, 0:33:33]: Um, at our by our next meeting. [0:33:35, 0:33:38]: Thank you. And this is something that if it is something that [0:33:39, 0:33:41]: You know, they urgently need a decision on. [0:33:42, 0:33:44]: I can send out um [0:33:44, 0:33:45]: A [0:33:45, 0:33:52]: um email to everyone asking for um support or in well whatever your vote would be. [0:33:52, 0:33:55]: With regard to the sport, once I have more details. [0:33:58, 0:34:01]: If that's something that you all would entertain. [0:34:02, 0:34:04]: Yeah, I would I would like that. [0:34:05, 0:34:09]: That looks that sounds a lot intr a lot more better than um [0:34:09, 0:34:20]: you know, just going into it because uh some of the questions that we have about the situation kind of opens it up to is it gonna be our event that they are [0:34:20, 0:34:40]: um participating with or is it going to be their event that we're going to help support? So I think answering a lot of those questions will really help our will help our position in that. So I agree with that soft commitment because I'm, you know, I'm all for it. But what that looks like, just to kind of, you know, break that down, I think that would help us out on making a more educated [0:34:40, 0:34:41]: Any decision. [0:34:42, 0:34:43]: Okay. [0:34:43, 0:34:53]: And um I do agree with that because you, um Mr. Hopkins, Ms. Potts, and several others on this call know how much it takes to put that event on. [0:34:53, 0:34:59]: when it's a physical uh when it's you know a regular event. So bringing in the cars and the driving part. [0:35:00, 0:35:05]: I think takes it to a whole nother level that um they may not have um [0:35:06, 0:35:11]: thought about all the way through. So we need to get a few more details with regard to that. [0:35:14, 0:35:17]: Okay, so what is you all's pleasure at this time? [0:35:18, 0:35:20]: I would need a motion and a um [0:35:21, 0:35:22]: And marching orders. [0:35:26, 0:35:29]: Okay, I'm calling for a motion um from [0:35:30, 0:35:33]: the board for uh what we would like to present. [0:35:35, 0:35:36]: At this time. [0:35:38, 0:35:40]: Well, I motion for the soft commitment. [0:35:41, 0:35:41]: Um [0:35:42, 0:35:49]: In lieu of getting more additional information after the meeting to answer some more questions and then for us to [0:35:49, 0:35:50]: Um [0:35:50, 0:35:51]: Take another vote. [0:35:52, 0:35:53]: Um at our next meeting. [0:35:54, 0:35:55]: Okay. [0:35:56, 0:35:58]: I second it, um, Madam Chair. [0:35:59, 0:36:05]: Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen, for um moving improperly seconding the um [0:36:06, 0:36:20]: commitment of uh well decision to make a soft commitment to this venture. Okay, we will move on with a vote. If you are in favor, please acknowledge with a yes. If you oppose, please state no. Ms. Camacho. [0:36:20, 0:36:21]: Yes. [0:36:21, 0:36:22]: Thank you. [0:36:23, 0:36:23]: Miss Finley. [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: Yes. [0:36:25, 0:36:27]: Thank you. Liz the birch. [0:36:29, 0:36:30]: Yes. [0:36:30, 0:36:32]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [0:36:33, 0:36:33]: Yes. [0:36:34, 0:36:36]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:36:36, 0:36:36]: Yes. [0:36:37, 0:36:38]: Thank you, Mr. Horton. [0:36:41, 0:36:42]: Yes. [0:36:42, 0:36:43]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [0:36:48, 0:36:49]: Miss Jones? [0:36:51, 0:36:53]: Maybe need it. Let's see. [0:36:54, 0:36:57]: I don't see her on the screen anymore. [0:36:58, 0:36:59]: Um okay. [0:36:59, 0:37:04]: She I guess we'll put her as an abstention for this particular one. [0:37:04, 0:37:06]: Yes, we'll do. [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: Potts, yes. Miss Reed? [0:37:09, 0:37:11]: Yes. Thank you. [0:37:11, 0:37:13]: Uh, and Mr. Thomas. [0:37:14, 0:37:14]: Yes. [0:37:15, 0:37:15]: Thank you, sir. [0:37:16, 0:37:18]: It has been properly moved and seconded. [0:37:18, 0:37:19]: Thank you. [0:37:20, 0:37:21]: Back to you, Miss Brights. [0:37:22, 0:37:27]: Okay. Um now I'd just like to provide you all with a few updates with regard to [0:37:28, 0:37:36]: Um the projects that we have on board. Um, as you all know, the um city's amphitheater. [0:37:37, 0:37:41]: Opened, uh we hosted a grand opening um concert. [0:37:41, 0:37:45]: On the twenty fifth, which was a huge success. The [0:37:45, 0:37:46]: Um [0:37:46, 0:37:48]: Space was sold out and [0:37:49, 0:37:53]: We had very swift ticket sales, so I was I'm very excited to report. [0:37:54, 0:37:55]: That it was a great event. [0:37:56, 0:38:02]: We have another concert coming up on October twenty-third that will be featuring um the artists. [0:38:02, 0:38:06]: Shaka Khan and um Freddie Jackson. [0:38:06, 0:38:08]: And tickets are on sale now. [0:38:09, 0:38:09]: Um [0:38:10, 0:38:14]: One hundred fourteen MLK Senior Heritage Trail, our white box project. [0:38:15, 0:38:19]: Um, I think I told you all that the contractor bid went out on September eighth. [0:38:20, 0:38:21]: And there was a contract. [0:38:22, 0:38:26]: Контрактор сайте візит хостел о Октобер Фіфт форс. [0:38:27, 0:38:30]: Who are bidding on that project to come and actually see the site. [0:38:31, 0:38:32]: And look at um [0:38:33, 0:38:37]: And make their own notes and observations about the work that needs to be completed. [0:38:38, 0:38:41]: So that bid should be closing soon and we'll um [0:38:41, 0:38:45]: Keep you all updated on contractor selection and [0:38:45, 0:38:47]: When that project will start to um [0:38:48, 0:38:51]: move forward as far as construction is concerned. [0:38:52, 0:38:59]: Um, the Ted Strickland Strickland building is also in the bid process. We did host a site visit. [0:38:59, 0:39:00]: And um [0:39:01, 0:39:05]: Had quite a few contractors come to that particular site visit. [0:39:05, 0:39:05]: Um [0:39:06, 0:39:10]: So we're looking forward to that be it closing and being able to select a contractor. [0:39:11, 0:39:13]: for that particular site as well. [0:39:15, 0:39:22]: The alleyway project. Main Street hosted an alleyway um projection uh project presentation. [0:39:22, 0:39:27]: On September twenty seventh, thank you to all of you who um from the board attended. [0:39:28, 0:39:33]: uh representing the board and also um the business owners Linda and Greg who attended. [0:39:33, 0:39:37]: Um, business and property owners that is to attended the meeting as well. [0:39:37, 0:39:42]: I think that the um project overall was well received. There were some [0:39:43, 0:39:45]: Questions with regard to the design? [0:39:46, 0:39:46]: Um [0:39:47, 0:39:52]: concerns about um how some of the landscaping was created and [0:39:52, 0:39:54]: Also the plan for the [0:39:55, 0:39:55]: Um [0:39:56, 0:39:58]: Лат тобі гравел. [0:39:58, 0:40:01]: Um the if you go think about the [0:40:02, 0:40:07]: Um, area that's behind the Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [0:40:07, 0:40:08]: Um [0:40:08, 0:40:13]: businesses and between the Berk the Martin Luther King Senior Here Heritage Trail and Burke Street. [0:40:14, 0:40:17]: The property that the city owns back there where the alleyway project is um [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: Scheduled to take place. [0:40:20, 0:40:24]: There is currently just a grassy area and we wanted to [0:40:24, 0:40:25]: Um [0:40:25, 0:40:31]: You make that a uh graveled in um temporary parking lot and then also [0:40:31, 0:40:34]: Where there is asphalt that needs to be removed. [0:40:34, 0:40:40]: remove that asphalt and make that a a gravelled in um parking space. [0:40:40, 0:40:45]: um temporary so that when a developer is interested in that particular location. [0:40:46, 0:40:48]: they would be able to um [0:40:48, 0:40:49]: Come in. [0:40:50, 0:40:56]: And start their work, I guess a little easier than having to remove some asphalt. But there have been some concerns about that particular [0:40:57, 0:40:57]: Plan. [0:40:58, 0:40:58]: Um [0:40:59, 0:41:00]: direction. [0:41:00, 0:41:07]: So we are going to be meeting with all of the business owners. We have started conversations with [0:41:07, 0:41:08]: Um [0:41:08, 0:41:18]: s I said business owner, business and property only, mainly property owners, to talk with them about and get feedback from them on what their thoughts are about the plan. [0:41:19, 0:41:24]: And um try to move forward from there. But we're trying to get buy in from every property owner. [0:41:25, 0:41:30]: So that we can move this project forward and ever try to get as many people. [0:41:30, 0:41:32]: Um on board with it as possible. [0:41:33, 0:41:37]: Um, Greg and Linda, did you all have any comments with regard to? [0:41:38, 0:41:42]: That um plan and the meeting um that we hosted. [0:41:42, 0:41:44]: With regard to that, this was the first time that we were. [0:41:45, 0:41:46]: Actually bringing the project. [0:41:46, 0:41:48]: To the downtown property owners. [0:41:49, 0:41:50]: For their initial [0:41:51, 0:41:53]: Um comments and observations. [0:41:56, 0:41:57]: Linda or Greg. [0:41:59, 0:41:59]: Linda. [0:42:00, 0:42:05]: Uh yes, I I feel like it should be paved and not graveled. [0:42:06, 0:42:12]: It's just so many kids back there and they're always throwing rocks and things of that nature. [0:42:13, 0:42:33]: I have lots of rocks that were on the top of my building due to them just just I guess rocking the building. I'm not sure. And I'm not the only one that has a lot of that type of debris on top of their their buildings. I just think to make things look better and you know. [0:42:33, 0:42:38]: know, go from when we did our first RSVP, we were going to pave it. [0:42:39, 0:42:48]: It may cost whoever more to pave it, but I just think, you know, with the green space and paving it, it will look better than just having the gravel there. [0:42:48, 0:42:49]: Um [0:42:49, 0:42:51]: I really would like to see gravel there. [0:42:51, 0:42:58]: Well pavement pavement. I will s now you know that the alleyway will be paved. It's just the um [0:42:59, 0:43:00]: parking area that would [0:43:01, 0:43:03]: We had proposed to put gravel there. [0:43:03, 0:43:09]: So definitely there will be pavers along the alleyway. I just want to make sure that everybody understands that. [0:43:09, 0:43:10]: Okay. [0:43:10, 0:43:12]: Um Greg, did you have any? [0:43:12, 0:43:13]: Comments. [0:43:15, 0:43:22]: I'll I'll echo Linda's concern. I uh I've I've heard the logic for leaving the parking lot as gravel instead of being paved. [0:43:23, 0:43:32]: Uh and that main logic is really just to make it more attractive for developer. Um, I think it's reflective of the city's commitment to [0:43:33, 0:43:46]: design and beautification of downtown. And and that's part of uh I I want to make some a statement a little later during this meeting about things in general and that'll be part of it. But [0:43:46, 0:43:47]: That is reflective of [0:43:48, 0:43:52]: I I want to echo Linda's concern, and I know my neighbor Rod. [0:43:53, 0:43:56]: had the same concern about not paving that parking lot that [0:43:56, 0:43:59]: That it really needs to be paid. So [0:43:59, 0:44:00]: Okay. [0:44:01, 0:44:07]: All right. Well, thank you for um your comments. Did you all feel that the meeting went well? [0:44:10, 0:44:10]: Yeah. [0:44:14, 0:44:17]: Yes, I I I I'm glad we had the meeting. [0:44:19, 0:44:24]: I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm glad we did have the meeting. It brought out a lot of things and concerns. [0:44:25, 0:44:39]: And I do know that whatever we do here, it does reflect us as a board and as a city. Um, it reflects back to our statement also. So yes, it was a good meeting. Thank you. Okay. [0:44:39, 0:44:42]: Greg, you were kind of fading in and out. [0:44:43, 0:44:50]: Okay. Um I'm I'm also glad we had the meeting and it it was good seeing the property owners, so many of the property owners show up. [0:44:51, 0:44:57]: Um, but to be honest, I was a little disappointed in how the meeting went. I felt like the engineering group. [0:44:58, 0:44:58]: Um [0:44:59, 0:45:00]: While they are to present [0:45:01, 0:45:01]: The current [0:45:01, 0:45:07]: project plan weren't really prepared for any questions or concerns. Um [0:45:07, 0:45:18]: You know, even Rod immediately stating that he didn't like the idea of grasping against the back of his building basically shut the meeting down. Uh and I felt like the guys weren't prepared to [0:45:18, 0:45:38]: address issues or offer options or or to try to talk through and and continue moving the meeting forward. So I think we should kind of learn from that for future presentations in any development for downtown or that requires property owner or community participation. I think the meeting needs to be a little more [0:45:38, 0:45:41]: more prepared to deal with the group. So [0:45:42, 0:45:43]: Okay. [0:45:44, 0:45:46]: All right. Um Lisa. [0:45:47, 0:45:49]: Hey, good morning everybody. [0:45:50, 0:45:50]: Um [0:45:51, 0:45:56]: I I wanted to say I thought the meeting went well in spite of [0:45:56, 0:46:02]: The fact that it was not scripted and so it didn't go it didn't go down as a perfect conversation. [0:46:02, 0:46:05]: But I think that's good anyway. Um [0:46:06, 0:46:07]: This is [0:46:07, 0:46:09]: We've had meet and greets and invited [0:46:10, 0:46:12]: The downtown um business community. [0:46:13, 0:46:17]: openly to our different things. And this is the first time I've seen so many. [0:46:18, 0:46:22]: Come out and participate together. And I hope that this opens up. [0:46:22, 0:46:28]: our relationship with them so that we can continue to grow as a unit in the downtown. [0:46:29, 0:46:29]: Um [0:46:30, 0:46:32]: I agree with Greg that um [0:46:33, 0:46:37]: The conversation was a bit derailed and that was. [0:46:37, 0:46:43]: A lot of just different natural occurrences, you know, people's different opinions, people not necessarily [0:46:44, 0:46:49]: being prepared for the fact that these opinions would be different from what we presented. [0:46:50, 0:46:55]: But still there was a conversation that was organic. And I think we can just go from there. [0:46:56, 0:46:57]: Um [0:46:57, 0:46:58]: Yeah. [0:46:58, 0:47:02]: I'm just glad that we were able to get this much of it done and and [0:47:02, 0:47:05]: have a way to look forward to the future. [0:47:07, 0:47:07]: Okay. [0:47:08, 0:47:12]: Well, thank you very much all for that um commentary. I think that it went well. [0:47:13, 0:47:14]: Um as also [0:47:15, 0:47:18]: And I was glad to see so many people. [0:47:18, 0:47:22]: um willing to discuss and participate in the conversation. So [0:47:23, 0:47:23]: Um [0:47:24, 0:47:25]: It's [0:47:25, 0:47:30]: Going to change um some of our plans with regard to the design. I've already talked with [0:47:31, 0:47:32]: The um [0:47:32, 0:47:33]: engineering group about [0:47:34, 0:47:38]: Um making some changes to the design and when we talk to the individual. [0:47:39, 0:47:41]: Property owners uh will also be [0:47:42, 0:47:48]: incorporating um some of their comments as well, as well as these comments that we just heard today. [0:47:50, 0:47:50]: Okay. [0:47:51, 0:47:57]: Um, that's all that I had for um my report. I did want to just kind of [0:47:57, 0:47:58]: Um [0:47:58, 0:48:05]: throw it over to Lisa with regard to small business Saturday. We are um going to be um [0:48:06, 0:48:10]: Getting that off the ground here v very soon. [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: We're a little bit behind on our planning with that. [0:48:13, 0:48:14]: But um [0:48:14, 0:48:18]: Lisa has some ideas and we're going to be sending um a meeting. [0:48:18, 0:48:23]: um request to those who are interested in participating. I did want to ask [0:48:24, 0:48:27]: Um, if a lunch meeting is something that [0:48:27, 0:48:30]: uh people would be willing to entertain. [0:48:30, 0:48:33]: Um as opposed to an even meeting. [0:48:33, 0:48:34]: If that works for people. [0:48:39, 0:48:45]: I'm I'm sorry, Kira, are you asking if a a lunch meeting for the shop small um [0:48:45, 0:48:48]: Conversation would be better than an evening meeting? Yes. [0:48:49, 0:48:53]: I know that Greg, Linda, uh we had asked prayer and um [0:48:54, 0:48:58]: Vanessa to assist with those with that particular initiative. [0:48:58, 0:48:59]: Um [0:49:00, 0:49:05]: Is a lunch meeting something that you all would be able to do? That would be a a meeting around [0:49:05, 0:49:10]: Twelve o'clock. I know that you all are in your shops at that time or at work at that time. [0:49:10, 0:49:11]: But [0:49:11, 0:49:18]: Would a lunch meeting be amenable or is a six o'clock meeting um better suited for you all's schedules? [0:49:21, 0:49:24]: Preferably for me, a lunch meeting is better'cause I [0:49:25, 0:49:27]: work in the evening. Right. Okay. [0:49:28, 0:49:34]: It's according to what day and time that you want to have it. I know the time is twelve, but the day that you're having it. [0:49:35, 0:49:35]: Okay. [0:49:36, 0:49:39]: Your your shop is closed on Monday, correct? [0:49:39, 0:49:40]: Yes. [0:49:40, 0:49:43]: Okay. I know Greg is closed on Monday. [0:49:43, 0:49:44]: Um [0:49:44, 0:49:49]: Would Monday's a Monday lunch meeting work for um prayer and Vanessa? [0:49:51, 0:49:51]: Yes. [0:49:52, 0:49:55]: Yes, um a Monday lunch meeting would be fun. [0:49:55, 0:49:58]: Okay. And we'll definitely try to keep it to [0:49:58, 0:50:00]: Um under an hour. [0:50:01, 0:50:05]: uh with regard to that and um it'll be informal so if you want to [0:50:05, 0:50:07]: Eat while we're beating, that's fine as well. [0:50:08, 0:50:12]: Okay, Lisa. Um if you can note that, uh we'll try to get something on the schedule. [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: for this coming Monday. [0:50:15, 0:50:20]: Okay, and just another quick question to our um four merchants. [0:50:20, 0:50:25]: Would you be able to stay back on this call for a few minutes after we uh [0:50:25, 0:50:31]: and the advisory board meeting, um, just so that I can get some feedback and share a little bit more with you. [0:50:35, 0:50:39]: Greg said yes. Yes. Okay. Linda, how about you? Can you stay on a little longer? [0:50:40, 0:50:41]: Yeah. [0:50:42, 0:50:43]: You're muted. [0:50:47, 0:50:51]: Yes, I'll be driving, but I can stay on. Okay. [0:50:52, 0:50:56]: Prayer. Um, how about you? Can you stay on a little bit longer after this meeting? [0:50:59, 0:51:01]: She had to step away. Yeah, she [0:51:03, 0:51:04]: You're muted. [0:51:06, 0:51:14]: Yes, Nova and I will be able to stay a little house. Okay. Yes, okay, good. It won't be it won't be long since it's impromptu, okay. [0:51:15, 0:51:35]: That's fine. Yeah. She she she usually goes down for a nap. She she's been up since like um since 8:30. So she'll she'll be ready for a nap by 11, 11:30. Okay. So Rosio just um chatted that she has to leave at 10. Um, but she's also one of our merchants, and I would like to um reach out to her at another time. Hopefully she [0:51:35, 0:51:37]: She can make that Monday at noon meeting. [0:51:37, 0:51:39]: Thank you all. Um so [0:51:39, 0:51:40]: Here is um [0:51:41, 0:51:45]: What we've got going on for this year's Small Business Saturday. [0:51:46, 0:51:52]: I need to get together with Greg again. He and I have um done most of the brainstorming up till now. [0:51:52, 0:51:55]: And then um as Kira stated before. [0:51:55, 0:51:58]: All of September and October were. [0:51:59, 0:52:00]: Just [0:52:00, 0:52:05]: outrageous for us at the office. And so we're a bit behind. [0:52:06, 0:52:09]: But the idea was that um due to the pandemic. [0:52:10, 0:52:19]: Um, we did the virtual small business Saturday last year, which means we just encouraged folks to um shop online. We did um [0:52:19, 0:52:23]: We posted online videos of some of our small businesses. [0:52:23, 0:52:28]: And um just asked everyone to shop small as best they could. [0:52:28, 0:52:32]: So um we did not do a passport, but our passport. [0:52:33, 0:52:35]: In previous years was very popular. [0:52:35, 0:52:39]: So we wanted to kind of combine those things for this year and um [0:52:39, 0:52:45]: Create a passport, which means we've got to recruit the businesses that will be participating. [0:52:46, 0:52:58]: And we will try to create another batch of videos to add to the ones we that currently exist. Um, those were very, very popular online, and I think it helped introduce some of our businesses to. [0:52:58, 0:53:00]: People that were not aware of them before. [0:53:01, 0:53:01]: Um [0:53:02, 0:53:04]: But in addition to that, um [0:53:05, 0:53:06]: I'm drawing a blank here. [0:53:07, 0:53:11]: Um we Kira and I wanted to do a bit of a pop long. [0:53:12, 0:53:21]: So that it's not a selling pop-up. It's more like um we put up our blue umbrella, we go to a couple of different um [0:53:22, 0:53:23]: Well [0:53:23, 0:53:24]: Um [0:53:24, 0:53:26]: travelled um [0:53:27, 0:53:37]: Areas locations shopping locations where we think there are a lot of stores in place that um need a little highlight and where we can talk to a lot of passers by. [0:53:37, 0:53:41]: And ultimately, what we hope they do is not just shop on the [0:53:41, 0:53:43]: Saturday after Thanksgiving. [0:53:43, 0:53:46]: But instead we're going to ask them to shop. [0:53:46, 0:53:47]: throughout the month of November. [0:53:48, 0:53:50]: So they've got all month long. [0:53:50, 0:53:51]: To shop small. [0:53:52, 0:53:53]: Instead of asking them [0:53:54, 0:53:58]: Hey, do you think on that really busy holiday weekend when some of you are even out of town? [0:53:59, 0:54:01]: And some of our shops are not even open because it's not. [0:54:02, 0:54:04]: relevant to their business to be open. [0:54:04, 0:54:08]: Why don't you just participate with our local businesses? [0:54:09, 0:54:10]: throughout the month of November. [0:54:11, 0:54:11]: Um [0:54:12, 0:54:16]: And that's what we've got so far. Um, and I'd love to hear some feedback on that. [0:54:17, 0:54:20]: So we'll be hosting that meeting at twelve. [0:54:20, 0:54:35]: Um on Monday, I will send out the invitation to everyone. So if anyone else is interested in giving feedback and being a part of that particular effort, we will gladly welcome you all to help us with that. [0:54:36, 0:54:44]: Okay, thank you, Lisa. And the next item is the um DDA report. Um, Barber um is absent from our meeting today. She did tell me [0:54:45, 0:54:55]: that this is the um tax, I think deadline for the extended tax deadline or something. So she's got uh appointments all this morning. So she wasn't able to attend this morning. [0:54:55, 0:55:00]: Um so that brings us um to announcements and concerns. I'll throw it back to Anika. [0:55:04, 0:55:08]: All right, thank you so much. Um, Miss Braggs. Uh [0:55:11, 0:55:19]: Okay, great. Um, sorry about that. So um are there any announcements or concerns that we need to address during our meeting today? [0:55:23, 0:55:24]: Rayc has his hand up. [0:55:25, 0:55:25]: Yeah, madam. [0:55:26, 0:55:27]: Yes, sir. Madam Chair. [0:55:28, 0:55:31]: Yes, Mr. Hormuz. I I I just want to address [0:55:31, 0:55:51]: Thank you. I I just want to address a few things to the advisory board in general, just mainly as food for thought, but really it's going to be an expression of where I am as a member of the board, um having uh served on for over three years now. Um and [0:55:51, 0:55:55]: where we where I feel like we are. [0:55:58, 0:56:17]: I greatly respect and appreciate all the members of this board who dedicate their who volunteer their time and their efforts in trying to move uh our vision of of Main Street and the Main Street program forward in Stockbridge. Um and I know there's great things on the horizon, things that it appears things are beginning to [0:56:18, 0:56:21]: to fall in place and in jail um [0:56:21, 0:56:25]: And so that's that's exciting, but I think we need to [0:56:26, 0:56:30]: In order to walk into that horizon properly. [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: We need to take an assessment of [0:56:33, 0:56:34]: Where we are, um [0:56:35, 0:56:47]: And where Main Street is currently. Um and uh I have several concerns. Um uh one of them was kind of echoed in in Linda's expression of uh [0:56:47, 0:56:53]: paving the par uh parking lot as part of the alleyway project. You know, the alleyway project is something we've been asking for. [0:56:54, 0:57:05]: as business owners for over three years uh now. You know, we've been complaining about the alleyway for over three years and it it grew into this project. Um but but my concern is [0:57:07, 0:57:27]: It seems thus far that Main Street puts a lot of energy and effort into presenting things to the city and to the council, only to have them knocked down, shut down, slow walked. And if you were to take a picture, and I've asked this board this before, if you were to take a physical picture. [0:57:27, 0:57:30]: of Main Street now. [0:57:30, 0:57:32]: And compare it to Main Street. [0:57:32, 0:57:33]: Four years ago. [0:57:34, 0:57:36]: There's no change. [0:57:37, 0:57:57]: Other than you see a couple of parking signs up and you see more doors closed realistically. And that's that's frustrating and disappointing for me, especially with a city council who who's part of their vision and mission is that they intend for the city of Stockbridge to [0:57:56, 0:58:05]: To function better as a government and as a city than other cities. And they want to be progressive. [0:58:05, 0:58:07]: But I don't see that in their actions. [0:58:08, 0:58:11]: Um and I have several examples, and and I'll start with the amphitheater. [0:58:12, 0:58:15]: Um, now that we're past the grand opening and that excitement. [0:58:15, 0:58:23]: Um, I think it's fair to say, let's take a snapshot of the grand opening. And I know it was hugely successful and that it was a sold-out event. [0:58:23, 0:58:24]: Um [0:58:24, 0:58:25]: But [0:58:26, 0:58:38]: During the whole two years that the amphitheater was being built there, I was asking this board, I was asking the council, I was asking the city manager, what about parking? [0:58:38, 0:58:44]: And I was and and basically even in the main street uh in the downtown association meetings. [0:58:44, 0:58:51]: It you know, it's pretty well hammered at business owners that parking's not a problem. If you have a parking problem, then you have a problem. [0:58:52, 0:58:52]: Um [0:58:53, 0:58:57]: I don't th I don't think that's true for Stockbridge. Um [0:58:57, 0:59:01]: Kira, you know, I started complaining about parking because of the community center. [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: Um and and you even expressed that you know it's just wrong to have a community center. [0:59:05, 0:59:06]: On Main Street. [0:59:07, 0:59:14]: Because you know, that type of event center isn't really fair to the business owners in that whenever there's an event, all the parking disappears. [0:59:16, 0:59:18]: And so the city turns around and opens. [0:59:18, 0:59:21]: A thirty two hundred seat community center. [0:59:22, 0:59:24]: Right on Main Street, right in downtown. [0:59:24, 0:59:31]: And and uses downtown parking spots as part of their calculation for justifying their parking decisions. [0:59:31, 0:59:34]: So mid концерт on the opening night. [0:59:35, 0:59:38]: I walked all the way around downtown. [0:59:38, 0:59:39]: Mid concert. [0:59:39, 0:59:40]: Between Patty [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: And Ms. Steiner Ross. [0:59:44, 0:59:48]: And what I saw coming up East Atlanta Road from my house. [0:59:49, 1:00:00]: was cars parked on sidewalks on both sides of the street, cars parked all over yards and the green space, which tells me there wasn't enough parking. [1:00:01, 1:00:02]: But in addition [1:00:02, 1:00:08]: If the cars are being parked on the sidewalks, how is that fostering a walkable community? [1:00:08, 1:00:11]: In addition, up Bryant Street, the first [1:00:12, 1:00:14]: Res a residential subdivision. [1:00:14, 1:00:18]: Cars were parked on the sidewalks, in yards, on lawns. [1:00:19, 1:00:22]: We have to have a better answer. [1:00:22, 1:00:30]: As I continued up Main Street into downtown, not a single open parking spot was available. [1:00:32, 1:00:32]: And [1:00:32, 1:00:36]: I've been told, well, you close at six. Why does that matter to you? [1:00:36, 1:00:46]: Well, if downtown were but to come were to become more vibrant, I would want to extend my hours to welcome more customers, to be part of that environment. But if there's no parking [1:00:47, 1:00:48]: What's the point? [1:00:50, 1:00:55]: I even reached out to the bar owner. It's the worst Saturday night she's ever had. [1:00:56, 1:00:57]: She had her customers calling her. [1:00:58, 1:01:00]: Saying we can't find parking, we're going to other places. [1:01:01, 1:01:02]: How is that supporting? [1:01:03, 1:01:08]: A a vital business community and an economic development for downtown. [1:01:08, 1:01:13]: How does that present an image of attracting new business in downtown? [1:01:14, 1:01:34]: And that's reflected even more in what I believe is city hall's and the city council's mindset and view of downtown. It's reflected in the continual trash that happens here on Main Street, the continual motorcycles that park on the sidewalk that I've complained about multiple times. [1:01:34, 1:01:37]: Still happens on a weekly basis that doesn't get addressed. [1:01:38, 1:01:38]: It's [1:01:39, 1:01:40]: It's [1:01:41, 1:01:49]: Emphasized on the fact that 114, and I know that bids are out, but the city has owned that building for two and a half years. [1:01:50, 1:01:56]: And still the roof has holes in it falling in. There's plex glass in the front door. It's the most blighted building on the street. [1:01:57, 1:02:03]: So telling me that we've now got bids out for contractors two and a half years down the road doesn't make me feel good. [1:02:04, 1:02:08]: It just tells me that we're slow walking the process of developing. [1:02:08, 1:02:16]: Downtown making it attractive to other businesses. How can we bring business in when we maintain the most blighted building on the street? [1:02:16, 1:02:20]: Well, we don't maintain the most blighted building on the street is more accurate. [1:02:21, 1:02:21]: Um [1:02:22, 1:02:36]: Even in driving around, uh the amphitheater, if you if you if you come up Love Street to turn on the East Atlanta Road now, our state-of-the-art amphitheater is using orange traffic barrels to block the entrance to the park. [1:02:36, 1:02:40]: Is that the image we want to project to every one of our brand new amphitheater? [1:02:40, 1:02:45]: Амі і цій kind of details and this kind of aesthetics and image of downtown. [1:02:45, 1:02:48]: That the council does not take seriously. [1:02:48, 1:02:57]: And so it makes me question as we're forming all these committees about downtown beautification, connectivity, business retention, and [1:02:58, 1:02:59]: Recruitment. [1:03:00, 1:03:15]: The city has has the city signed off on all of this? They attended our joint meeting with the DDA, but has the city adopted our whole mindset and and and program and done a formal resolution to say they're gonna support what these committees bring forth? [1:03:15, 1:03:24]: Or are we just again slow walking and spinning our wheels, buying time for a big developer to come in and buy something so then we don't have to worry about it? [1:03:26, 1:03:27]: That's where I am. [1:03:27, 1:03:29]: And and so it also makes me question [1:03:30, 1:03:34]: Whether I want to continue my efforts, I I I serve on this board as a [1:03:35, 1:03:36]: Business owner in district. [1:03:37, 1:03:49]: for a reason uh that that those seat specifically exist on this board so that this board and presumably the city can get feedback from business owners in district. [1:03:50, 1:03:52]: And I feel like that that feedback has been ignored. [1:03:53, 1:04:00]: For four for three over three years, four years. Um, because the city council has a different vision. [1:04:00, 1:04:04]: And that's reflected in how much of the RSVP has been implemented at this point. [1:04:05, 1:04:08]: So I think this board needs to. [1:04:08, 1:04:12]: Reflect on where we are, what we're accomplishing. [1:04:12, 1:04:17]: And whether the city council really is supporting us or if we're just something [1:04:18, 1:04:22]: There to make the community feel good that yeah, we have a Main Street program. [1:04:22, 1:04:26]: But the s but the council and the city management, city manager. [1:04:26, 1:04:28]: doesn't support whatever we put forward. [1:04:29, 1:04:35]: That's also evident in the fact that we that Kira specifically came up with with the project of [1:04:35, 1:04:45]: uh presenting shipping container options for starting small business or even having little pop-up businesses in downtown as a catalyst. [1:04:45, 1:04:47]: To bring би new business and recruitment. [1:04:47, 1:04:48]: The city council [1:04:49, 1:04:53]: Immediately turned around and banned shipping containers with no explanation. [1:04:55, 1:04:56]: That's where I am. [1:04:57, 1:05:07]: That's where we are. I think we need to really look at that as we move forward and we send people out to sit on these various committees. We need to be thinking in our mind. [1:05:08, 1:05:14]: As we talk about our plans and lay things out, how much of this is supported by the council? Because that's ultimately where it falls. [1:05:15, 1:05:19]: And ultimately, where any success we have will either happen or not. [1:05:20, 1:05:22]: So thank you for the time and [1:05:22, 1:05:24]: Uh I I'd l I'd love to talk through. [1:05:25, 1:05:31]: these with any of you if if you feel the need or or have other questions. [1:05:32, 1:05:32]: But [1:05:33, 1:05:34]: I'll leave it there. [1:05:35, 1:05:36]: Okay. [1:05:38, 1:05:39]: Madam Chair. [1:05:40, 1:05:43]: Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Horton. And yes, Mr. Thomas. [1:05:43, 1:05:47]: Uh I'd like to respond to a couple of those things. Uh if I may. [1:05:47, 1:05:56]: Um it was quite a bit, so I'm gonna try to remember. Um I'm gonna start with the latest or the last uh injection about the containers. [1:05:57, 1:05:58]: Um [1:06:01, 1:06:04]: There was an entity I won't call a name. [1:06:04, 1:06:09]: Uh, that is no longer staffer, that is no longer with the city. [1:06:10, 1:06:19]: Uh they were able to and I know Miss Braggs and Lisa, I know y'all know uh about this and and Greg, you probably realize this as well. [1:06:20, 1:06:20]: Um [1:06:22, 1:06:25]: They were successful in stopping that. [1:06:25, 1:06:28]: Uh, because of their own personal [1:06:30, 1:06:43]: I don't don't want to use the word vendetta, but they was able to stop that because of that particular reason. But that person is not here any longer. Uh I will say that the council, the majority of the council at that time. [1:06:44, 1:06:47]: Uh could have gone forward with that with that, but [1:06:48, 1:06:51]: Uh, that staff had some influence over I know two. [1:06:52, 1:06:53]: The third one. [1:06:53, 1:06:55]: was a little closer to [1:06:56, 1:06:57]: Um [1:06:57, 1:07:01]: The owner of the fire station now. [1:07:01, 1:07:04]: So it only takes three council members to to make that decision. [1:07:05, 1:07:06]: So now [1:07:07, 1:07:09]: Responding to some of the other things. [1:07:10, 1:07:13]: the council and being a member of that council. [1:07:13, 1:07:16]: I I I would say that you're probably wrong. [1:07:16, 1:07:18]: When you said that the council [1:07:18, 1:07:22]: Uh, it's not favoring uh the Main Street initiative. [1:07:23, 1:07:27]: Uh one of the internal problems that we and I say that because [1:07:28, 1:07:31]: I just know for a fact that the council's not that that involved. [1:07:32, 1:07:35]: One of the problems that I see as an elected official. [1:07:36, 1:07:37]: uh internally [1:07:38, 1:07:42]: Um and if you're if you watch any of our council meetings or attend [1:07:43, 1:07:49]: You will see, and they and if you can see the emails, uh this council has pushed. [1:07:50, 1:07:52]: Push push initiative. [1:07:52, 1:07:55]: Uh to staff and I know Miss Bragg know too. [1:07:55, 1:07:58]: How how something was a slow walk. [1:07:59, 1:08:01]: And we could not get um [1:08:01, 1:08:02]: staff to move forward. [1:08:03, 1:08:08]: Now, you know, the um it all starts and stop with the city manager. [1:08:08, 1:08:10]: Uh he's not there now. [1:08:10, 1:08:12]: uh procurement [1:08:12, 1:08:15]: Uh it is an ongoing [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: Um [1:08:17, 1:08:20]: struggle right now with procurement. So [1:08:21, 1:08:25]: A lot of things, you know, if you know government, everything sort of channeled through procurement. [1:08:26, 1:08:30]: And we we are having constant battles right now. [1:08:30, 1:08:35]: uh with the way procurement uh operates. So it's not it's not the council. [1:08:36, 1:08:40]: Uh, all you know, the council has to set the policies. [1:08:40, 1:08:41]: And legislate. [1:08:41, 1:08:44]: But then staff has to be able to carry that out. [1:08:45, 1:08:46]: And so [1:08:46, 1:08:50]: I would say if there's a problem, it's a problem in staffing and not council. [1:08:50, 1:08:53]: 'Cause I know that the council's not in that lane. Now I will say [1:08:54, 1:08:56]: You probably do have two council members. [1:08:56, 1:08:59]: uh that is in that lane. But the majority of the council [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: Which is the consensus? No, they're not in that lane. [1:09:03, 1:09:08]: Um, but there's been some issues with procurement the way that [1:09:08, 1:09:17]: Uh they do business and the timeline. So uh we're struggling through that right now. And so that's something I won't get too deep in that, but [1:09:17, 1:09:37]: There are some issues going on with procurement. So a lot of these things have to go through that route and that and that's what some of the breakdown is. Uh the extent that you said something about the barrels, I I I think that just a a a lens. Uh some people may not even look at those barrels. Um, say like you, Mr. Horner. [1:09:37, 1:09:52]: I'cause I had never really thought about it until you just mentioned it. So I would just say, see, the th it's not nothing intentional, I I would say, with the council. I just think it's just the way certain folk look at some things. And I don't think that that never done on anybody about the barrel. [1:09:52, 1:09:55]: Now uh going to the parking [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: Uh you know, we knew. [1:09:58, 1:10:02]: coming in that, you know, Parkham was gonna gonna be somewhat of an issue. [1:10:02, 1:10:04]: So that's why we tried to [1:10:05, 1:10:25]: uh create as much as we could. And that's why I know for a fact that the city has worked with the schools, worked with the uh the subway down the street. Um they're trying to get the church. And after I think the church parked like the Baptist church had everything blocked off, but since that time they came in and asked [1:10:24, 1:10:29]: about the permitting part of it and so the city [1:10:30, 1:10:50]: uh was in favor and allowing all of these entities uh to create the parking. Now I know and Miss Braggs you may have been on that committee, but I know once they did the SWOT analysis, you know, the good and bad and the ugly, about what happened on that first night. And I did hear about the the parking on East Atlanta. [1:10:50, 1:10:55]: So I think we have to do a better job with that. Now we did hire [1:10:55, 1:10:58]: Henry County police to do some things. [1:10:58, 1:11:18]: probably we should have we should we should have hired more. But I will say going forward with the new uh city of Stockbridge Police Department, I think the future is bright uh when it comes to that concern. Uh but you know, we hired Henry County to do certain things. But I would I would agree that that issue on each elevat [1:11:18, 1:11:20]: down the road and the parking and [1:11:20, 1:11:30]: parking on the on the on the grassy area and things like that. Uh that was not permitted. Now uh on M L King um [1:11:30, 1:11:41]: I I know that could be a problem for the for the business owners because the one thing that we have talked about when you talked about the walkability and um businesses. [1:11:42, 1:11:45]: uh being able to capture [1:11:45, 1:11:58]: Um, you know, when we have the uh events at the amphitheater or even at the future of the the cultural arts, uh we want business owners uh on on Burke Street and ML King. [1:11:58, 1:12:00]: to be able to capture that because [1:12:00, 1:12:04]: You have three thousand people in downtown. [1:12:04, 1:12:24]: at the amphitheater and eleven o'clock when it's over, we know that folks were looking for somewhere to go after that. They were not ready to go home, but I do understand that uh there's no parking. And I know, Greg, if you wanted to stin your owls and the uh the pool hall wanted to do something, then you know I know [1:12:24, 1:12:44]: No, their patrons couldn't come in. So, but now that's the issue we got to work on. But I do know that once the uh cultural art facility is open, um, there's gonna be a number, I think it's like 200, 300 parking spaces that's gonna come all the way down to Burke Street from Burke Street. [1:12:44, 1:12:48]: all the way up to the uh cultural facility. So [1:12:48, 1:13:06]: future wise see that's where a lot of the uh overflow well not even necessarily overflow it's just it's just just be parking. I don't foresee the amphitheater and the cultural arts uh having you know competing with activities in the same night. I I don't think so but I don't know. But so [1:13:07, 1:13:14]: The only thing I wanna dispel is is is the comment you made about the council. And I just know the council is is not in that lane. [1:13:15, 1:13:19]: Uh we have pushed and pushed and even even with the alleyway. [1:13:19, 1:13:38]: We we pushed the city manager, and Miss Bragg knows this, uh, we have pushed the city manager at that time uh to move forward and it was just it was just a slow walk. I don't know why, but you know, emails every day. I mean, if you could if you could just see the emails that council members. [1:13:38, 1:13:41]: or was directed in to the city manager. [1:13:42, 1:13:56]: I mean, it was just overflowing just to move things forward. Procurement, we got issues right now with the with the with how the speed that things go through the system. So the only thing I wanna just dispel is that [1:13:57, 1:13:58]: Excuse me. [1:13:59, 1:14:08]: Uh the consensus of the council um is not the only thing that I was disappointed in was the consensus of the council that stopped the containers [1:14:09, 1:14:11]: And that was um [1:14:11, 1:14:14]: And and and Greg, you you know the person who who [1:14:14, 1:14:18]: injected that and uh and made that not happen. [1:14:18, 1:14:23]: Uh but that person is no longer with the city and which is you know, thank God for that. [1:14:23, 1:14:35]: Um but um I just know that the counts is is not in that lane. Um things were just slow. I know Ms. Braggs have tried to push the issue with the alleyway. [1:14:35, 1:14:41]: And and and and and again it went to that same person, but that person is no longer there. So hopefully [1:14:42, 1:14:43]: The new city manager. [1:14:44, 1:14:46]: would come in with a little bit more um [1:14:47, 1:14:51]: a little bit more fire and a little bit more um able to walk a little faster. [1:14:52, 1:14:55]: Uh but I think it was just something that was just built into that person. [1:14:56, 1:14:58]: Things were just slow for whatever reason, but [1:14:58, 1:15:01]: I'll only thing again, only thing I would dispel is no. [1:15:02, 1:15:03]: The council is not [1:15:04, 1:15:11]: No, council's not in that lane. I can't speak for two council members, but I can say that the consensus of the council [1:15:12, 1:15:25]: we are pushing and pushing and pushing and we just ran into a brick wall, uh, and trying to get some of these things to move m move forward. I can't remember everything that you you you you expound on, but the things that I can remember, um [1:15:26, 1:15:28]: I I I you know I c I could I can [1:15:28, 1:15:35]: uh you know respond to that now if you have a question that you want to reiterate i i'll try to speak to that i just can't remember [1:15:35, 1:15:37]: uh everything that you talked about, Mr. Hart. [1:15:39, 1:15:40]: Thank you. [1:15:41, 1:15:43]: So much both of you. Um [1:15:44, 1:15:45]: For your [1:15:46, 1:15:50]: Oh I'm sorry. Additional, I'm sorry. Yeah. Please do. Um [1:15:50, 1:15:57]: it as far as parking, that was really the the only thing that I could at least think of something something that came to mind. Um [1:15:57, 1:15:58]: Hearing [1:15:59, 1:16:10]: you know, expansion for like, you know, other and other parking lots going out. Um, just something we've experienced even um in the bakery when we are short on space and we can't go out, we go up. [1:16:10, 1:16:16]: So I don't know how feasible it is or if it will be, you know, reasonable or within a budget to build a parking deck. [1:16:17, 1:16:21]: There. Um I've heard thirty two hundred seats or something uh mentioned. [1:16:22, 1:16:27]: I'm not sure how many parking spaces are there now, but if a um parking deck [1:16:27, 1:16:33]: Could allow you know, that would just allow for multiple levels in the same space for not having to deal with other businesses. [1:16:34, 1:16:36]: I'm the only one in this conversation. [1:16:36, 1:16:39]: Well I I there has been [1:16:39, 1:16:44]: That that issue of a parking that has been uh in discussion [1:16:44, 1:16:59]: It's not completely off the table. Uh, but one of the things when you you mentioned finance is yes, um a parking deck is is very, very, very expensive, but it's not completely uh off the table. [1:16:59, 1:17:15]: uh for future consideration but we just know that uh right now twenty twenty one twenty twenty two twenty twenty three uh it's not gonna be possible because you know one thing you know um [1:17:15, 1:17:18]: Creating a police department. [1:17:18, 1:17:24]: Excuse me. Um been out on the campaign trail and it's, you know, sort of taking effect on me. But [1:17:25, 1:17:25]: Um [1:17:26, 1:17:30]: With the police department coming forward, see a lot of problems. [1:17:30, 1:17:33]: for enforcement, enforcing [1:17:34, 1:17:46]: Uh and that's one of the things that I've talked about, enforcing uh ordinances that we have passed. See, that's been one of the problems because Henry County would not enforce those. [1:17:46, 1:18:00]: With your own City of Stockbridge Police Department, see many of those things will be able to be enforced. So that's one of the reasons I've advocated for the creation of the City of Stockbridge Police Department. So [1:18:01, 1:18:21]: You will see a difference in uh some of those things and and and as well in in code enforcement. We did hire a supervisor and they all started getting up, but we still have complaints. We're complaining right now. I mean the council, we're complaining right now about some code enforcement issues because we are out there. [1:18:21, 1:18:26]: And we see this. Uh one criticism that I have with staffing [1:18:27, 1:18:33]: They don't live here in the city of Stockbridge and they don't go out. They don't ride out to sea. [1:18:33, 1:18:47]: uh public works director, the city manager, um, you know, community development director. We encourage, we push, we're demanding that staffers get out here in the city and see. [1:18:48, 1:18:57]: We are constantly, constantly reporting things back. And we should not have when I say report, I'm talking about council members. [1:18:57, 1:19:08]: We are flooding the city with things that we see in the community and that should not be. So I'm just saying to to this board, um, it's not the council. [1:19:09, 1:19:14]: Um we are pushing uh staffers and I say this all the time. [1:19:14, 1:19:19]: And when we pay staffers and we pay them handsomely. [1:19:20, 1:19:24]: So we expect more uh at our last council meeting. [1:19:24, 1:19:44]: uh we push back on two departments they got a little upset because we're pushing but we telling folks it's a new day uh in stockbridge and when we hire staffers we expect them to do the job we set the the council set the policies but we expect staff to carry those out [1:19:44, 1:19:53]: And I know y'all don't get a chance to see that and I know you don't see the results, but if you could see the emails, if if you could be uh internally. [1:19:54, 1:19:56]: And see where we are pushing. [1:19:56, 1:20:01]: then you would not have that opinion about counsel. Now I again [1:20:01, 1:20:04]: Um, you know, the consensus of the council. [1:20:04, 1:20:24]: It's not 100%, but they are in the minority. And I'll just put a plug in right now. That's why elections are so important. And it is important who sits on that city council in order to push. And Mr. Horton, I know you and I have had many conversations. So you know where I stand. You know who I am. [1:20:24, 1:20:33]: And so we push and push and and it pushes so hard. Sometimes folks resign and they they go other places if you if you catch my drift. [1:20:34, 1:20:35]: So but I'm just saying [1:20:35, 1:20:37]: This counts as pushing. [1:20:37, 1:20:40]: And we are re hiring we are we are demanding. [1:20:40, 1:20:42]: Higher standards from staffers. [1:20:43, 1:20:44]: People that we hire to come in. [1:20:45, 1:20:48]: But one thing and you know, Mr. Harding, it was some opposition. [1:20:48, 1:21:08]: to uh creating the City of Stockbridge Police Department. But we understand when it comes to uh patrolling and but mainly for for for this board uh uh information enforcing the ordinances that we pass, parking in the street and things like you just mentioned, uh all that on East Atlanta Road from the concert. [1:21:08, 1:21:11]: certain night. So a lot of these things will change. [1:21:11, 1:21:15]: But uh and I know, you know, you mentioned three years, four years. [1:21:15, 1:21:17]: Um, you know, I I [1:21:17, 1:21:21]: grew up here so I've seen some changes and it they've been slow changes. [1:21:22, 1:21:23]: Uh but I'm I feel [1:21:24, 1:21:26]: confident and I'm excited about the future. [1:21:27, 1:21:29]: And and that's what we are doing now. We are pushing. [1:21:30, 1:21:32]: I was saying now this will be my last comment. [1:21:32, 1:21:34]: Yes, there are some staffers. [1:21:35, 1:21:36]: That that uh you know [1:21:37, 1:21:38]: The they they have been wounded. [1:21:38, 1:21:40]: Their feelings have been hurt. [1:21:41, 1:21:42]: But when you accept a job. [1:21:43, 1:21:45]: And you're getting paid handsomely. [1:21:45, 1:21:47]: You know, all of that goes out of the door. [1:21:48, 1:21:50]: So we are demanding higher standards. [1:21:51, 1:22:01]: And but we're we we're holding folks accountable. Just do your job. When you're hired to do a job, we expect you to do it. But I know you all don't get a chance to hear or see some of that, but [1:22:01, 1:22:03]: The majority of this council. [1:22:03, 1:22:04]: Push it. [1:22:04, 1:22:17]: We pushed and pushed and pushed about this alleyway. And and the excuses were not acceptable. And so that that's sort of where we are right now. But uh we pushed for years on that. Cause you know, Greg, it's been on the books for the longest. [1:22:18, 1:22:19]: But we pushed every day. [1:22:22, 1:22:23]: Well [1:22:24, 1:22:28]: That was a very intense conversation and a needed conversation. [1:22:29, 1:22:35]: um for the sake of time for this meeting i do want to allow us to close out um [1:22:35, 1:22:55]: Mr. Thomas, we greatly appreciate your input. Um we have, as a board, pretty much the same vantage as Greg, and we can only see what's tangible. We can't see the day-to-day, but we appreciate you letting us know that that the fight is there and that you're doing everything you can at this time to get all [1:22:55, 1:23:15]: to um have some um outward expression of what's happening. Um so totally understand both perspectives. This board is here for a reason and we do need to assess what we're doing, why we're doing it, and are we just spinning our wheels? Um Madam Chair, Madam Chair, if I may [1:23:15, 1:23:24]: Any board member could call me at any time and Greg and I, you know, we talk often, but anyone can call me if they really want the um [1:23:24, 1:23:28]: The X rated version of that, uh, feel free to give me a call. [1:23:29, 1:23:32]: Thank you so much for putting that out there for us. We appreciate that. [1:23:32, 1:23:45]: Um, and we're very thankful you're on this board and that you do allow us to have um somewhat of a peek in um to how things are moving so that we can share that with the community as well so they know that things are moving. [1:23:45, 1:23:46]: Um [1:23:47, 1:23:49]: Miss Briggs, anything additional? [1:23:50, 1:23:53]: Um, I was going to say that um the points about the parking. [1:23:54, 1:23:58]: Um, in the yards and on the sidewalk that was brought to [1:23:58, 1:24:01]: the attention of the um [1:24:02, 1:24:08]: Um, c amphitheater committee that was working on the parking plan. Again, this was the first time. [1:24:08, 1:24:10]: that it happened because we actually had [1:24:11, 1:24:14]: A lot that was available for parking um the subway. [1:24:15, 1:24:18]: Sherman Williams, that shopping complex area. [1:24:18, 1:24:19]: That was almost [1:24:20, 1:24:22]: empty, it w it was not filled at all. [1:24:22, 1:24:25]: With regard to spaces so [1:24:25, 1:24:29]: I think that the management of the parking and directing people to [1:24:29, 1:24:30]: Parking. [1:24:30, 1:24:32]: Areas. Um we [1:24:32, 1:24:34]: Рекомендація some work be done. [1:24:35, 1:24:36]: And um public information. [1:24:37, 1:24:43]: um be put out there that that lot is available for people to park. It wasn't empty. There were people parking there. [1:24:44, 1:24:44]: But [1:24:45, 1:24:49]: Um, some of those people who had parked on the sidewalks and that sort of thing. [1:24:49, 1:24:54]: Um could have been directed there and should not have been allowed to park. [1:24:55, 1:25:00]: on the sidewalks, especially on East Atlanta Road, where we had a police presence. [1:25:01, 1:25:02]: And um [1:25:02, 1:25:10]: They could have said, you know, move those cars along instead of allowing them to park on the grass and to park on the sidewalks. [1:25:10, 1:25:14]: So that was a concern that was um put forward to. [1:25:15, 1:25:19]: Um, the police who were managing traffic at that time, but [1:25:20, 1:25:27]: We did get the response that they were there to move cars in and out of part of the parking area, ingress and egress. [1:25:27, 1:25:32]: They were not responsible for telling people where to park and telling them where not to park. [1:25:32, 1:25:36]: So that was something that is gonna have to be addressed. [1:25:36, 1:25:41]: Going forward with the next concert and future concerts as well that [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: They cannot allow people to park there. I don't know if those cars can be ticketed. [1:25:46, 1:25:54]: Um, you know, or at least g receive some sort of warning so that they will not do that again. It's basically people don't want to walk and that's [1:25:54, 1:26:00]: Um unfortunate because every other amphitheater, whether it's Chastain or you know, wherever else. [1:26:00, 1:26:06]: People have to park walk to the amphitheater from their um designated parking areas and [1:26:06, 1:26:08]: That was just people wanting to. [1:26:08, 1:26:09]: Be able to [1:26:09, 1:26:14]: just walk a few steps to the amphitheater and they were not prevented from doing so. [1:26:15, 1:26:18]: As far as the um downtown area is concerned. [1:26:19, 1:26:24]: Um we are going to have to look at that and possibly have someone post it. [1:26:25, 1:26:28]: In that area to make sure that [1:26:29, 1:26:35]: concert goers are not parking in those spaces. I don't know how to police that. That's something we're gonna have to talk about. [1:26:36, 1:26:38]: in another meeting, I guess, or offline. [1:26:39, 1:26:41]: to get some ideas on how to manage that because [1:26:41, 1:26:43]: That's the that's the com [1:26:43, 1:26:48]: That is the conversation that all of these cities are having that have amphitheaters. [1:26:48, 1:26:52]: Um that the downtown gets inundated during the um [1:26:53, 1:26:55]: During concerts and special events. [1:26:55, 1:26:59]: parking in front of the businesses. So we're not the only ones that are [1:26:59, 1:27:00]: having that [1:27:01, 1:27:03]: That dilemma and having to deal with [1:27:03, 1:27:06]: those issues. So these are things that [1:27:06, 1:27:08]: Are gonna have to be figured out. [1:27:09, 1:27:13]: Um, I don't know the answers. Perhaps we can talk to other Main Street programs. [1:27:14, 1:27:16]: Who work with these types of situations? [1:27:16, 1:27:20]: Um and that's all I'm gonna say right now'cause I I know we're going [1:27:20, 1:27:23]: very long and I want to be able to dismiss everyone. [1:27:24, 1:27:26]: Um, so that you all can go on about your day, but [1:27:27, 1:27:30]: If it's something that you would like to help us work on. [1:27:30, 1:27:35]: Um and be a part of that conversation and a part of those bringing those ideas forward. [1:27:36, 1:27:38]: Two um parking control. [1:27:38, 1:27:45]: And um ingress and egress, please let me know because we need fresh ideas and we need a lot of um [1:27:46, 1:27:52]: Eyes, ears, and brains on this one because it's not an easy answer and we're not the only ones that are having to deal with it. [1:27:56, 1:28:09]: Thank you so much, Ms. Braggs. Um my phone is literally about to um lose power, so I had to turn off my video. Sorry about that. Um so at this time we would like to um have a motion to adjourn our uh October meeting. [1:28:10, 1:28:12]: Uh at uh [1:28:12, 1:28:13]: Let's see. [1:28:14, 1:28:15]: Ten thirty four AM. [1:28:15, 1:28:16]: Do we have a motion? [1:28:17, 1:28:20]: Madam Chair, I move we adjourn at 10 34 A.M. [1:28:21, 1:28:35]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. Thank you, Mr. Firch. We will take a roll call really quick to acknowledge everyone's vote on this ending of our meeting. Thank you all for your time today and for the wonderful conversation and input. [1:28:36, 1:28:40]: I believe Ms. Camacho has left the meeting, but I will still call it her name, Ms. Camacho. [1:28:42, 1:28:43]: We'll put her as an abstention. [1:28:44, 1:28:45]: Thank you. [1:28:45, 1:28:46]: Miss Finley. [1:28:47, 1:28:47]: Yes. [1:28:48, 1:28:50]: Thank you. Mr. Firch. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: Yes. [1:28:52, 1:28:53]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [1:28:55, 1:29:00]: Yeah, I think she may oh she's present. Thank you. Uh Mr. Hopkins. [1:29:00, 1:29:00]: Yes. [1:29:01, 1:29:02]: Mr. Hutton. [1:29:04, 1:29:05]: Yes. [1:29:05, 1:29:07]: Thank you, Jones. [1:29:08, 1:29:09]: We have departed as well. [1:29:10, 1:29:13]: Okay, upstairs. No, she's waving her hand. [1:29:14, 1:29:17]: Okay, that's a yes. Miss Potts, yes, Miss Reed. [1:29:18, 1:29:19]: Yes. [1:29:19, 1:29:21]: And Mr. Thomas. [1:29:22, 1:29:25]: Mr. Harden, give uh councilman Thomas a call and I say yes. [1:29:26, 1:29:36]: Thank you, sir. Um, all those that um need to depart from this meeting, please do. Thank you so much for your time. Have a great rest of the uh weekend and we will see you soon. [1:29:37, 1:29:43]: Um, and I'll say that we will bring up um the parking in our um downtown connectivity meeting. [1:29:44, 1:29:48]: Um, because I think that that would be the best um group to [1:29:48, 1:29:51]: Just kind of brainstorm and think about this parking issue. [1:29:52, 1:29:56]: And um we'll address some of the other things that um Mr. Horton. [1:29:56, 1:29:58]: Has brought um to the table. [1:29:58, 1:30:06]: Um, through the our committee system and um with this board because we do want to make sure that we are staying on the [1:30:07, 1:30:09]: Absolutely. Mr. Horton, you had something? [1:30:11, 1:30:20]: Um just uh Kira, uh if if we're gonna bring that up with the uh connectivity committee, can we uh get the new police chief's involvement in that? [1:30:21, 1:30:24]: Yes, I can ask him to be a part of the discussion. [1:30:27, 1:30:30]: Thank you for the thank you for the suggestion. [1:30:32, 1:30:32]: Thank you. [1:30:33, 1:30:34]: All right. [1:30:34, 1:30:38]: All right guys, we just gotta stay we gotta stay the the on this path. It's hard. [1:30:38, 1:30:49]: It's very hard, but we are slowly making some progress and we need to definitely keep our grind going and keep everyone accountable and stay connected. [1:30:49, 1:31:01]: Have a fantastic day. Thank you all. Thank you. And hello to all my little visitors. I see my little Nova and my little shamari. Yay. [1:31:02, 1:31:05]: Fantastic. [1:31:06, 1:31:11]: Little Shamari has just been quiet. Yeah, he's very concerned. [1:31:12, 1:31:18]: Bye everyone, everybody. Bye. Have a good one. [1:31:21, 1:31:21]: Mm. [1:31:22, 1:31:29]: Okay, I will try not to keep everyone long since we went over a little bit um with our other conversation. Um [1:31:30, 1:31:31]: I do think it was [1:31:31, 1:31:34]: good conversation and necessary, but we'll [1:31:34, 1:31:36]: Не то ревизит that at a different point. [1:31:36, 1:31:40]: Um, as far as small business Saturday, um [1:31:40, 1:31:45]: You heard the um ideas we have and now that we are [1:31:45, 1:31:49]: at November's door we have to move quite a bit more quickly. [1:31:50, 1:31:54]: Um, so I was hoping to get some feedback on um [1:31:55, 1:31:57]: Вот ви впут форд софа. [1:31:57, 1:31:59]: Um as ideas and [1:31:59, 1:32:04]: find out what you think of it and what suggestions you have that I can begin um [1:32:05, 1:32:10]: considering and maybe implementing as we get closer to the last week of October. [1:32:11, 1:32:12]: Anybody. [1:32:15, 1:32:18]: Wait, let me understand your question, say it again. I'm sorry. [1:32:19, 1:32:20]: Yes, I'm sorry. [1:32:20, 1:32:23]: So I I gave a recap um earlier. [1:32:23, 1:32:26]: of what we hope to do for [1:32:26, 1:32:27]: Um [1:32:27, 1:32:30]: Shop small season, I'm calling it. [1:32:30, 1:32:34]: Um, for twenty twenty one rather than just making it um small business Saturday. [1:32:35, 1:32:39]: And you know, we described that um Kira and I will choose. [1:32:39, 1:32:40]: A few um [1:32:41, 1:32:43]: Locations around the city that [1:32:44, 1:32:47]: seem to have good foot traffic um at their plazas. [1:32:48, 1:32:50]: Um and just pop up there. [1:32:50, 1:32:55]: To encourage the community to continue to shop throughout the month of November as opposed to [1:32:55, 1:32:57]: Only on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. [1:32:58, 1:33:00]: Um and also that we would [1:33:00, 1:33:03]: Go ahead and implement a new batch of um [1:33:05, 1:33:09]: s videos, particular business videos. Um [1:33:09, 1:33:16]: And I I think that's kind of it. You know, the fact that we'll promote it for the entire month of November as opposed to a single day. [1:33:16, 1:33:16]: And [1:33:17, 1:33:17]: Um [1:33:18, 1:33:22]: The fact that we will go around the city encouraging and showing up. [1:33:23, 1:33:26]: You know, to remind everyone what we're looking forward to. [1:33:26, 1:33:28]: I just need more um [1:33:28, 1:33:29]: Feedback. [1:33:29, 1:33:32]: From our merchants as to um [1:33:33, 1:33:35]: their particular um [1:33:35, 1:33:36]: perspectives. [1:33:36, 1:33:38]: From their business's angle. [1:33:39, 1:33:40]: What do you think and what can we do? [1:33:41, 1:33:41]: So [1:33:42, 1:33:43]: improve this idea. [1:33:44, 1:33:50]: Well, I'm thinking that we definitely need to do a pop-up in the um food depot parking lot. [1:33:51, 1:33:53]: I think that that would be a good location to [1:33:54, 1:33:55]: Just have [1:33:55, 1:33:57]: Our table, our kiosk. [1:33:57, 1:34:00]: Giving people information about the um [1:34:01, 1:34:07]: support of our small businesses during the month of November and then especially on small business Saturday. [1:34:08, 1:34:12]: Um I know that because that's a downtown location, um I [1:34:12, 1:34:15]: Really like that particular location. [1:34:15, 1:34:18]: And they are very busy, you know, all through the day. [1:34:18, 1:34:19]: Um [1:34:21, 1:34:26]: Because we are somewhat shorter on time than I had anticipated we would be. [1:34:27, 1:34:27]: Um [1:34:28, 1:34:32]: I don't think there we'll be able to do quite as many pop-ups. Um [1:34:32, 1:34:34]: I'm thinking two to three. [1:34:35, 1:34:36]: For this season. [1:34:36, 1:34:38]: Um, so I'm [1:34:38, 1:34:46]: willing to hear about any other locations that I mean the the area where prayer is located is pretty busy. [1:34:47, 1:34:48]: Um [1:34:48, 1:34:52]: So that might be a good location since we have a a business that is [1:34:52, 1:34:56]: participating in our effort to, you know, get the word out there. [1:34:57, 1:34:58]: Um [1:34:58, 1:35:02]: Are there any other recommendations for doing a pop-up? [1:35:04, 1:35:08]: Could you clarify? What area is prayers? Um I'm sorry I'm [1:35:08, 1:35:11]: Prayer is located on um [1:35:12, 1:35:16]: Um North Henry Boulevard by the churches chicken and [1:35:16, 1:35:17]: Um [1:35:17, 1:35:20]: What else is in that player as a [1:35:20, 1:35:27]: There's a beauty supply. [1:35:28, 1:35:29]: A beauty supply, yeah. [1:35:30, 1:35:31]: Um, so that's [1:35:31, 1:35:36]: A a possible location. There's also a location on Walt Stevens Boulevard. [1:35:37, 1:35:40]: Um and we're and again, we're trying to be where [1:35:40, 1:35:47]: There are also small business owners. We don't necessarily want to be at the Walmart parking lot because that's a big box. We'd rather be [1:35:47, 1:35:49]: in an area that [1:35:49, 1:35:52]: А смал бизнес [1:35:52, 1:35:54]: that we would like to [1:35:54, 1:36:08]: um promote and also get people interested in supporting small businesses. Well yeah our plaza is full of small businesses. What what just would you clarify the pop-up like what what is the pop-up for um [1:36:09, 1:36:15]: As opposed to the kind of pop-up where you know merchants come out with their different wares. [1:36:15, 1:36:20]: Um we're not trying to do that because we don't have time to recruit or manage anything like that. [1:36:21, 1:36:21]: However [1:36:22, 1:36:25]: Um, if it's a plaza that's already pretty busy. [1:36:25, 1:36:31]: I think a sidewalk sale would be good. So for instance, if you guys wanted to while we were there that day. [1:36:32, 1:36:34]: Путайл від сам. [1:36:35, 1:36:39]: Cupcake samples or maybe one dollar cupcakes or something like that. Something that's [1:36:40, 1:36:41]: A little um [1:36:41, 1:36:42]: Okay. [1:36:42, 1:36:52]: smaller and quicker than what you normally do, which would encourage people who might not have come in before to come in again in the future. [1:36:52, 1:37:07]: And the same for some of the other um areas. I think I wanted to ask the city if we can allow pop-ups throughout the month of November, meaning that any store that's got a brick and mortar, if they wanted to put a table and a tent out front. [1:37:08, 1:37:09]: provided their space. [1:37:10, 1:37:18]: uh maybe a rack of clothes or something like that. Just something not to take up all the space but to encourage people to see their wares and to [1:37:19, 1:37:26]: Come along to the sidewalk there. Um, as for Kira and I, we will bring an umbrella and a table. [1:37:26, 1:37:31]: and some of the tote bags that we give out each year and the passports. [1:37:31, 1:37:38]: And remind people throughout you know, go ahead throughout the month of November to honor those passports and [1:37:38, 1:37:42]: Um, shop at the participating stores and anyone else. [1:37:42, 1:37:45]: that's in their uh plaza or community. [1:37:47, 1:37:52]: And that's the big thing. We've got to get the the passport together. We don't know who is [1:37:53, 1:37:59]: uh participating right now. So uh Greg has always done the passport for us. [1:37:59, 1:38:01]: So we need to get those businesses to him. [1:38:02, 1:38:08]: He he's gotten some commitments, um, and some folks have contacted me saying they would be interested. [1:38:08, 1:38:09]: Um [1:38:10, 1:38:25]: So of course we need more. We would like to get as many as we can, but one of the issues, and this might be a question for Vanessa, one of the issues has been that there are um businesses asking to participate that in my opinion. [1:38:25, 1:38:26]: Or not. [1:38:27, 1:38:34]: good retail. You know what I mean? They're more service oriented. And um like us you know in the [1:38:35, 1:38:35]: I'm sorry. [1:38:37, 1:38:52]: I thought I heard that. She said like us. She's service oriented. Yeah. Well, and that that's a question because in the past we've had other dance studios that um participated. And my question was, are they open on the Saturday after Thanksgiving? And is it relevant? [1:38:53, 1:38:55]: Two small business Saturday. [1:38:55, 1:38:56]: Um [1:38:56, 1:39:00]: as it was designed in the past. Now we're trying to do something a little bit different this time. [1:39:01, 1:39:05]: Um which might open up room for some of those service businesses. [1:39:05, 1:39:08]: But I wanted to get your perspective on whether or not [1:39:08, 1:39:09]: Um [1:39:09, 1:39:13]: We should even try to include certain types of businesses. [1:39:18, 1:39:23]: Well, I mean, I guess it ju I mean, most of us are are closed during that. [1:39:23, 1:39:27]: Um that that week, that um that Saturday. [1:39:27, 1:39:35]: Most of us. Um, I can't speak for I mean, I know the majority of the ones that I know are closed. [1:39:35, 1:39:36]: Um [1:39:39, 1:39:42]: It's just kinda hard because it just depends on what, you know. [1:39:42, 1:39:48]: w you know,'cause I know I've always wanted to participate, but I've never understood how I mean not understood but [1:39:48, 1:39:51]: I didn't know what we could do. [1:39:52, 1:39:53]: To [1:39:53, 1:39:57]: participate on that particular weekend because one is hard to get. [1:39:58, 1:40:00]: people to wanna come out. [1:40:00, 1:40:03]: For us, you know, my my people. [1:40:03, 1:40:03]: Um [1:40:04, 1:40:08]: to assist and help the you know, that partic that particular weekend. [1:40:08, 1:40:10]: Um, but [1:40:11, 1:40:23]: Um also, you know, just looking at you know what we could provide other than maybe classes or something like that and what people be interested in coming in to do. [1:40:24, 1:40:27]: pop up little classes like that. [1:40:28, 1:40:37]: So I I agree with that. Um my impression was that most holidaygoers are not interested in [1:40:37, 1:40:41]: Um participating in that type of activity on [1:40:41, 1:40:42]: Those weekends. [1:40:43, 1:40:47]: But um so for instance last year there was a fitness center. [1:40:47, 1:40:52]: And what I try to encourage them was um you know just [1:40:53, 1:40:56]: continue to promote yourselves because right [1:40:56, 1:40:58]: During the holidays, people purchase. [1:40:59, 1:41:00]: Memberships. [1:41:00, 1:41:00]: To [1:41:01, 1:41:08]: you know, lose pounds after the holidays or it's a gift for someone else they know would like to get started for a New Year's resolution. [1:41:08, 1:41:19]: Um, I think in that way it's good participation, but I think in other ways, you know, these businesses were just trying to get some exposure, but it's kind of [1:41:19, 1:41:23]: Taking up space from the retailers that we're trying to um [1:41:24, 1:41:30]: actually have people work with during that season. So that that's kind of a tough one. And we need to figure out [1:41:31, 1:41:32]: Whether or not or how. [1:41:33, 1:41:34]: We think this can work. [1:41:35, 1:41:37]: Greg's Greg, you trying to raise your hand? [1:41:38, 1:41:38]: Yeah. [1:41:39, 1:41:58]: Yeah, if if and since we're talking about doing a shop small season instead of a shop small Saturday, um, you know, maybe it's okay to drop the requirement that a location actually be open on shop small Saturday. And and I think that's all in how we sell it and possi possibly how we sell it during the pop-ups. [1:41:58, 1:42:03]: But you know, maybe we could even design the passport in a manner that that clearly [1:42:03, 1:42:23]: defines these businesses are actually open on shop small saturday these other businesses are participating in shop small season get your stamps from these during the month of November um but these will be available on shop small saturday as well so maybe it's up yeah maybe it's like a star or something on the ones that [1:42:23, 1:42:25]: That it will be open on Saturday. [1:42:26, 1:42:35]: Yeah. I like that idea. Some some little indicator saying this one is actually open on Shop Small Saturday. The rest of them are participating in Shop Small season. [1:42:36, 1:42:37]: Yeah. Yes. [1:42:38, 1:42:38]: Yes. [1:42:39, 1:42:41]: I like that. I like that Greg. [1:42:41, 1:42:51]: I like that. And um so Kira had Kira and I talked about that a little bit also. And we s you know, we normally give um a winning gif gift basket for the name that's drawn. [1:42:51, 1:42:53]: Um people who've [1:42:53, 1:42:55]: Shopped at at least four locations. [1:42:55, 1:43:06]: Um, and they have proof of that. So we can also do something that says if you've actually shopped on that Saturday and have proof of that, then you get into a second type of drawing. [1:43:06, 1:43:09]: Um or some kind of indicator for those people. [1:43:09, 1:43:18]: Who um actually went out on that Saturday. So I'm glad to get that um that kind of feedback. I think that's useful. [1:43:19, 1:43:30]: Well, um we'll continue the conversation. Um on Monday, we'll schedule a meeting for everyone, a lunchtime meeting. We actually have an economic development meeting. I didn't realize that starts. [1:43:30, 1:43:31]: At eleven thirty. [1:43:32, 1:43:38]: So we wouldn't be able to start. Can we start at twelve thirty as opposed to twelve? I know twelve is what I said, but [1:43:38, 1:43:40]: Is twelve thirty okay with you all? [1:43:41, 1:43:42]: On Monday. [1:43:45, 1:43:58]: That's fun. So fun. Okay. All right. So we'll shift it 30 minutes. So Lisa and I won't have to um leave the um economic development meeting. We'll go straight into small business Saturday on Monday. I'll send you all um [1:43:59, 1:44:02]: A Zoom meeting invitation in a few minutes. [1:44:04, 1:44:14]: All right, thank you. That gives us a little bit more direction for us to get started. Um, well, we've started, but to continue. And um Greg, did you think Greg was gonna say one more thing? [1:44:15, 1:44:27]: Yeah, Kira, if uh I'm sorry, Lisa, if if you could send me the uh names that have that you have talked with and agreed to participate so far, I'll try to have a mock-up of the passport ready for Monday. [1:44:28, 1:44:38]: Okay. Okay. Um so Greg, I am, as you can see, not at the office today and that list is at my desk. So I'll I'll send myself a note to send it to you first thing Monday. [1:44:39, 1:44:39]: Oh. [1:44:40, 1:44:40]: Oh. [1:44:42, 1:44:43]: Okay. Yeah, that'll work. [1:44:43, 1:44:44]: Okay, thank you. [1:44:46, 1:44:46]: All right. [1:44:48, 1:44:50]: All right, thank you. And we'll um [1:44:51, 1:44:54]: Be talking with you again on Monday. Thank you so much. [1:44:54, 1:45:01]: And thanks for your patience and hanging in with us a little longer. Yeah, thanks everybody. All right. Bye-bye. [1:45:11, 1:45:13]: Should we log out and log back in? [1:45:13, 1:45:15]: Wait a minute, I've got a [1:45:16, 1:45:18]: Lynn there's one of Linda's things still open. [1:45:19, 1:45:20]: I'm trying to um [1:45:21, 1:45:22]: And you're still recording. [1:45:22, 1:45:24]: Yeah, that's what I was trying to pause.

--- title: September 28 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-09-28 source: 2021-09-28_September_28_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: Yeah. [0:22:16, 0:22:18]: Oh [0:25:45, 0:25:48]: Good evening, everybody. We are recording at this point. [0:25:51, 0:25:52]: Evening. [0:25:52, 0:25:53]: Good evening. [0:25:55, 0:25:56]: Hello. Hello? [0:26:06, 0:26:08]: And we're now on Facebook Live, ladies and gentlemen. [0:26:16, 0:26:21]: Hello everyone, Testin. Hello. Hello. Good evening. You we hear you loud and clear? [0:26:21, 0:26:23]: Thank you so much. [0:26:23, 0:26:26]: What a wonderful day it is to be in Stockbridge, y'all. [0:26:27, 0:26:27]: Oh [0:26:28, 0:26:31]: Saturday, oh my God, I'm still on cloud nine. [0:26:33, 0:26:36]: I'll stand it. [0:26:39, 0:26:42]: Okay, so [0:26:55, 0:27:05]: Mr. Knighton, good to see you, sir. Um we're almost at six o'clock and I do not see our attorneys, sir. Could you remind them, please, or reach out to them? [0:27:05, 0:27:07]: Yes, I had a um [0:27:09, 0:27:16]: Communication with them just a few minutes ago. So they should be coming in momentarily. [0:27:16, 0:27:17]: Okay. [0:27:31, 0:27:36]: Okay, Ms. Gantton. Does anyone know if Stanley Dumas should be a panelist in this meeting? [0:27:38, 0:27:39]: I'm sorry. [0:27:39, 0:27:42]: Stanley Dumas, Dumas, Dumas. [0:27:42, 0:27:47]: A panelist? Stanley Dum Dumas. I've s I've seen that name before. I'm just checking. [0:27:48, 0:27:51]: If he should be there, no, he's with the planning commission. [0:27:51, 0:27:53]: Yeah, not that I'm aware of. Okay, thanks. [0:28:07, 0:28:10]: And down [0:28:36, 0:28:38]: [1727.3, 1730.9]: So we're still missing our attorneys and uh Mr. Blount. [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: All right, let me make a call here. [0:28:58, 0:28:59]: I see now. [0:28:59, 0:29:00]: Are you doing Shana? [0:29:07, 0:29:13]: All right. I think the other Randy Knighton you see is a and one of the attorneys using my link. [0:29:14, 0:29:15]: Can you acknowledge? [0:29:18, 0:29:19]: Yes, that's me. [0:29:20, 0:29:22]: Okay, so that's uh Mr. Washington, there we go. [0:29:27, 0:29:35]: All right. And then there is a third Randy Knighton, which I believe is Jeremy Berry, our other attorney. [0:29:36, 0:29:36]: Okay. [0:29:37, 0:29:38]: Jeremy, can you [0:29:39, 0:29:40]: Acknowledge [0:29:41, 0:29:44]: That's me, but I don't know why there's no video. [0:29:47, 0:29:47]: Okay. [0:29:49, 0:29:52]: Yeah, I I have to use that'cause I don't get the links for some reason. [0:29:53, 0:29:54]: Mm, yeah. [0:29:55, 0:30:13]: We gotta fix that problem, I suppose. Need to fix that. Okay. Okay. On that note, I have 602. So I'd like to call this uh council work session Tuesday, September 28th, uh, to order. And on that note, uh Mr. Knighton, could you give the invocation, please, sir? [0:30:15, 0:30:21]: Uh yes, Mayor Ford, uh to uh the council and all of the listening and viewing audience, let us pray. [0:30:22, 0:30:28]: Lord in heaven, we are certainly thankful for the beauty of this day. We thank you for [0:30:28, 0:30:35]: The warm sunshine, which is a a constant reminder of your presence with us in your power and majesty. [0:30:35, 0:30:39]: We thank you, Lord, for the blessings that you have bestowed upon us. [0:30:40, 0:30:42]: And upon the city of Stock Bridge. [0:30:42, 0:30:44]: We thank you for the wonderful event. [0:30:45, 0:30:48]: Он сатаді івенні, взагалі. [0:30:49, 0:30:50]: Becoming reality. [0:30:52, 0:30:53]: We thank you for the [0:30:54, 0:30:58]: Elected body, the mayor and council who serve with diligence, we pray. [0:30:59, 0:31:01]: Your blessings upon this proceedings. [0:31:02, 0:31:05]: That you would endow them with wisdom and understanding to make. [0:31:06, 0:31:07]: Wise decisions. [0:31:08, 0:31:10]: On behalf of the city. [0:31:10, 0:31:15]: We ask your blessings upon all of citizens of Stockbridge and we ask your blessings upon [0:31:16, 0:31:16]: The stair. [0:31:17, 0:31:21]: We thank you for the opportunity to serve in our various capacities. [0:31:22, 0:31:24]: And we pray your rich blessings. [0:31:25, 0:31:26]: Upon us. [0:31:26, 0:31:30]: It is in your son's name, my savior, Jesus Christ. [0:31:30, 0:31:31]: Amen. [0:31:31, 0:31:33]: Amen. Thank you, sir. [0:31:33, 0:31:36]: Could you please stand for the uh legal allegiance? [0:31:39, 0:31:53]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic of which is named one nation of God and indivisible with liberty and justice. Justice Raw. Okay. [0:31:55, 0:31:56]: Alrighty. [0:31:58, 0:32:00]: Madam Clerk, can I have a roll call, please? [0:32:00, 0:32:01]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:32:02, 0:32:03]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:32:04, 0:32:04]: President. [0:32:05, 0:32:06]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:32:06, 0:32:07]: I think. [0:32:08, 0:32:09]: Councilman Blount. [0:32:11, 0:32:11]: Present. [0:32:12, 0:32:13]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:32:14, 0:32:16]: Present. Councilman Thomas. [0:32:16, 0:32:18]: Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:32:19, 0:32:37]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate it. Council, I need uh to amend a motion to amend the agenda, and that would be the new business item number three, then identify number three, to take that off the agenda and just more information and data that needs to be consulted and given in reference after that'll come to us at a later date. [0:32:38, 0:32:41]: So move. Thank you, Mr. Mer. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [0:32:42, 0:32:47]: Ms. Barber's hand. Okay. [0:32:48, 0:32:50]: Aye. Aye. I appreciate it. Thank you. [0:32:51, 0:33:11]: And what we have next, of course, review the minutes for the following meetings, the actual uh actual council meeting, which was August 16th of um of course of this year, and then the council work session was the August 31st. Please review those. And hopefully if there if there are any changes, let the clerk know that we'll make those particular changes and then we'll vote on that. [0:33:11, 0:33:12]: At our next council meeting. [0:33:13, 0:33:15]: On that note, uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? [0:33:19, 0:33:21]: There are no public comments, Mayor. [0:33:21, 0:33:27]: Okay, thank you. We'll move on now to new business, which will be item number four. [0:33:27, 0:33:47]: Uh council consideration to approve invitation to bid ITB 2021-0007, Maze Crossing Lift Station and Force Main Rehabilitation. The procurement division is requesting approval to award a fixed contract to the lowest responsive responsible bidder. [0:33:47, 0:33:55]: All South contractors incorporated in a total amount of$620,660 and 75 cents. [0:33:55, 0:33:59]: And this is presented by Ms. Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [0:34:07, 0:34:08]: Ms. Miller and Mr. Aaron? [0:34:11, 0:34:27]: Sorry about that. Um good afternoon, Mayor and Council. That is correct. The procurement division is requesting approval to award a fixed contract to the lowest responsible, responsible bidder, all South Construct Constructors Incorporated. The work uh to be completed. [0:34:27, 0:34:40]: with this contract for the Maze Crossing Lift Station enforcement rehabilitation shall consist of the furnishing of all labor equipment and materials necessary to re rehabilitate the Maze Crossing Lift Station. [0:34:41, 0:34:49]: With that being said, the procurement was sent out according to our ordinance. We received several responses. [0:34:51, 0:34:58]: four I'm sorry, four responses in which um the notice of award was posted to the city's website as well as the state of Georgia's website. [0:35:01, 0:35:03]: Thank you. Council, any questions for Miss Miller? [0:35:04, 0:35:04]: At all. [0:35:09, 0:35:11]: See none. Um [0:35:12, 0:35:15]: Mr. Aaron, did you have anything to add before we go to a vote? [0:35:15, 0:35:18]: Just that this will be paid for using ARPA funds. [0:35:19, 0:35:20]: Fantastic. [0:35:20, 0:35:21]: There you go. [0:35:21, 0:35:21]: Sure. [0:35:22, 0:35:30]: Mayor Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Yeah, real quick. Maze Crossing, that is the um shopping center complex with the what, the big lots? [0:35:31, 0:35:34]: And oh is it is that the is that the complex we're talking about? [0:35:36, 0:35:38]: Or is it the one on the other side of the screen? [0:35:38, 0:35:40]: It's the one on the other side of the street. [0:35:40, 0:35:45]: I'll let Mr. Holzinger, he's our sewer superintendent, he's on the line as well. [0:35:45, 0:35:46]: All right, Ms. Oserin, please go ahead. [0:35:47, 0:35:52]: Hey, thank you, Council. It's the it serves uh two houses on [0:35:53, 0:35:54]: But like it's [0:35:54, 0:35:57]: Daniel Drive, the Krispy Kreme, the motel. [0:35:58, 0:36:01]: Uh, Kentucky Fried Chicken and that shopping center that uh [0:36:02, 0:36:03]: Mr. Alexander was talking about. [0:36:05, 0:36:05]: Uh [0:36:06, 0:36:11]: Okay, so we're all on that side of the road that it serves. It doesn't serve the other side at all. [0:36:12, 0:36:16]: Okay, so in the this anticipates should we have some additional [0:36:17, 0:36:20]: uh commercial growth in the area that this [0:36:20, 0:36:24]: New uh upgrade will actually be able to handle that with some [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: Um [0:36:25, 0:36:29]: added capacity some added capacity for future commercial growth. [0:36:30, 0:36:31]: Yes, sir. It should handle it just fine. [0:36:32, 0:36:36]: Okay. Could you give us kind of like is there like a term or how many? [0:36:36, 0:36:38]: Of a such certain increase of [0:36:39, 0:36:40]: How much it can handle or [0:36:41, 0:36:42]: In terms of your department? [0:36:42, 0:36:48]: It should probably the as far as what it handles now or what the future holds. Well both. [0:36:49, 0:36:51]: Well, as far as future, there's really no work. [0:36:52, 0:36:55]: Uh it can handle more. I would say probably [0:36:56, 0:37:00]: Uh forty, fifty percent more than what it currently handles. [0:37:01, 0:37:06]: But as far as growth right there, there's really no spot for growth. [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: Kind of run out of city property. [0:37:09, 0:37:15]: You always go up. You can always go up. So all right. Thank you. [0:37:17, 0:37:18]: Any other questions, Council? [0:37:20, 0:37:23]: And if not any emotion to accept this proposal. [0:37:25, 0:37:33]: So moved. Uh Miss Barber had had hand hand up first. Okay. And Miss Gantt seconds that and all in favor, please indicate. [0:37:34, 0:37:35]: Aye. [0:37:35, 0:37:37]: Okay, so you now see. Thank you very much. [0:37:38, 0:37:44]: Council consideration to award request for proposal RFP number 2021-0004. [0:37:47, 0:37:52]: The Public Works Department is requesting council approval for the award of request for proposal RFP. [0:37:53, 0:38:13]: Okay, landscape maintenance services for city of Stockbridge to Yellowstone Landscape Southeast LLC for general ground for general ground keeping, horticulture, maintenance, irrigation, cleanup of landscape areas as designated in each area, uh each service area, and a list of locations when necessary repairs. [0:38:13, 0:38:24]: to the vandalism irrigation systems and replacement of plant materials for an estimated annual amount of$250,000. Once again, it's presented by Ms. Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [0:38:25, 0:38:45]: Uh that is correct. Uh good afternoon once again, Mayor and Council. The Public Works and Procurement Division is requesting approval of RFP 2021. The request for proposal landscape maintenance services was solicited in accordance with council directives and the city ordinance. The solicitation requests again is for grounds. [0:38:44, 0:38:46]: keeping or the culture. [0:38:46, 0:38:51]: maintenance. On May 13th, the solicitation was sent out. [0:38:51, 0:39:08]: We received two responses, one from High Grove Partners LLC and Yellowstone Landscape. The evaluation committee did meet on August 5th. We then had um two negotiation meetings with the vendor. A copy of the actual drafted contract is attached. [0:39:08, 0:39:18]: And in addition to that, we also um posted the bid on the city's website, as well as data Georgian, which was sent out to 796 vendors. [0:39:20, 0:39:26]: Okay, council, any questions for Ms. Miller or Mr. Aaron? [0:39:27, 0:39:28]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:39:30, 0:39:36]: Okay, my question is for Mr. Berry. Um Mr. Berry, I do see [0:39:36, 0:39:40]: um looks like contract language from [0:39:40, 0:39:41]: Yellowstone [0:39:41, 0:39:44]: But I don't see a draft contract. [0:39:45, 0:39:46]: Um with our [0:39:47, 0:39:49]: standard language. [0:39:51, 0:39:52]: When will that come before the council? [0:39:57, 0:40:08]: Uh we can review that and provide any other language that that's necessary or needed. Sometimes we do sign other contracts. The city doesn't always use contracts that it's signed. [0:40:09, 0:40:12]: That sorry, that it's it's uh prepared. [0:40:14, 0:40:14]: Okay. [0:40:15, 0:40:20]: That's one of the concerns that I had that we need to discuss a little further. [0:40:20, 0:40:24]: Um, I do have one other follow-up question with Mr. Aaron. [0:40:24, 0:40:26]: Can you um explain? [0:40:26, 0:40:30]: what this covers or what areas this covers. [0:40:31, 0:40:50]: Yes, uh Councilwoman Barber. This covers City Hall, the Municipal Court, the Amphitheater, the New Public Works Building, Municipal Park, the Merrill Manders Conference Center, Ted Strickland Conference Center, the Downtown Streetscape, the East Atlanta Road Streetscape, the historic markers at [0:40:50, 0:40:58]: Uh Florida Chapel and the Greenfront Cafe, the banner station at Walmart and at Rock Quarry North Henry Boulevard. [0:40:59, 0:41:04]: And I think that's about all of the locations that are included in this agreement. [0:41:05, 0:41:07]: Okay. So the um [0:41:08, 0:41:11]: Right away maintenance, are we still gonna use staff? [0:41:11, 0:41:15]: For that or will it be covered with this contract? [0:41:15, 0:41:18]: Yes, ma'am, we've got staff doing right away maintenance. [0:41:18, 0:41:27]: Okay, one last question. So the um areas um near uh highway one thirty-eight, um near the overpass. [0:41:28, 0:41:29]: Um [0:41:29, 0:41:31]: I guess that is I seventy five. [0:41:32, 0:41:35]: I think we're paying a separate contractor for that. [0:41:35, 0:41:36]: Will this cover it? [0:41:37, 0:41:43]: No ma'am, these are for the areas that were previously under the formal agreement with High Grove. [0:41:45, 0:41:53]: This does not include right-of-way. This is just those locations where we had a previous vendor performing landscaping services for the city. [0:41:53, 0:42:02]: So how many landscaping companies would be performing landscaping services for the city if we approve this today? [0:42:02, 0:42:12]: You've got, well I would say two, because you got one doing the right-of-way mowing that city authorized, and you've got one doing the landscaping and beautification, which would be Yellowstone. [0:42:13, 0:42:14]: Okay, so that would be two. [0:42:15, 0:42:17]: Yes, ma'am. Okay, thank you. [0:42:18, 0:42:20]: Yes, sir. Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [0:42:20, 0:42:32]: Uh I just wanted to inquire as we had some previous uh information. Mr. Knighton, while we're talking about this subject, uh there was some beautification efforts for um [0:42:33, 0:42:44]: Campground and Hudson Bridge. Is that information bid closed now? So uh as well? Or can you give us an update on that? What what before I ask my question? [0:42:46, 0:42:56]: I can I can speak to that. We did put that out under a separate solicitation as requested by Councilwoman Barber. We received no bids for that solicitation. [0:42:59, 0:43:00]: And what are we gonna do about it? [0:43:05, 0:43:11]: Well, if uh the city decides to go with Yellowstone, then we'll approach them about [0:43:11, 0:43:13]: doing that project. [0:43:13, 0:43:16]: Because we have cost items for um [0:43:16, 0:43:21]: certain projects so we can inquire as to what it would cost to [0:43:21, 0:43:24]: add that add those projects. [0:43:24, 0:43:44]: We did not get any bids at all. Zero. What was the, I mean, who did it go out to if we only got we got zero bids? It went out to the uh on the state registry like we normally advertise, but for a lot of people, one of the benders I heard back from is like there is no maintenance and up. [0:43:44, 0:43:48]: keep it's just a one time project and they didn't feel it was worth their while to [0:43:49, 0:43:50]: To be it on the project. [0:43:51, 0:43:53]: So Muslim nine, what's the next step? [0:43:56, 0:43:59]: I think the next step would be as Mr. Aaron mentioned. [0:43:59, 0:44:02]: Uh, if this contractor is approved by the council. [0:44:02, 0:44:07]: And we look at perhaps uh an addendum to add those uh particular roadways. [0:44:08, 0:44:13]: Okay, all right. That's out that sounds good. Okay, so pretty much what we're doing now is [0:44:13, 0:44:20]: uh the downtown area proper, which is City Hall, the amphitheater. This includes the park too, the amphitheater park. [0:44:22, 0:44:27]: Uh Mr. Mangum with Yellowstone is on the line. That includes the entire amphitheater footprint. [0:44:28, 0:44:32]: Okay, so that includes all of that. Okay. And then um [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: In terms of [0:44:33, 0:44:36]: Could could Mr. M could could Mr. Mangum [0:44:37, 0:44:39]: He's here on the call, correct? He's on the call. [0:44:39, 0:44:43]: Yeah. Sorry, talk about the specific services in terms of [0:44:43, 0:44:46]: The edging, the weed prevention. [0:44:46, 0:44:50]: And all of that. What's the program include? Talk talk to us on the company's behalf. [0:44:51, 0:44:54]: Yes, sir. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Um [0:44:55, 0:44:57]: It does include weekly maintenance. [0:44:57, 0:45:01]: During the growing season, it's bi weekly maintenance in the uh off season. [0:45:02, 0:45:04]: Um it includes mowing weekly. [0:45:05, 0:45:08]: Includes uh two applications of pine straw. [0:45:09, 0:45:10]: Two rotations of flowers. [0:45:11, 0:45:12]: Aeration. [0:45:13, 0:45:14]: Uh pruning. [0:45:15, 0:45:15]: Um [0:45:16, 0:45:17]: Edging [0:45:18, 0:45:18]: Oh weekly? [0:45:19, 0:45:20]: And uh [0:45:20, 0:45:22]: Turf weed control as well. [0:45:23, 0:45:43]: Okay, I thought we had agreed, Mr. Aaron, that we were gonna do quarterly uh freshening up for the pine straw and the mulch in the city because six months was way too long and it w the area started to deteriorate uh after a few months. So is there a correction that we could make where we could do [0:45:43, 0:45:50]: uh uh update on the mulch and everything on a quarterly basis. So it's always looking fresh. And does this include [0:45:50, 0:45:53]: The plantings in front of Stockbridge Elementary as well. [0:45:56, 0:46:03]: He had that conversation with Mr. Mangum and we've got the unit price and cost if we go from [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: Uh [0:46:04, 0:46:06]: semi annually to quarterly. [0:46:07, 0:46:10]: And it will be based on appearance if he thinks [0:46:10, 0:46:23]: that there are additional applications needed, then they would do that, but we were relying on their expertise that two might be sufficient. And if it's not sufficient, then we have the cost for adding those additional [0:46:24, 0:46:33]: Well, we know two's not gonna be sufficient because that's what we've been doing. But in the end, does it include the plantings in front of Stockbridge Elementary? That n it that's [0:46:33, 0:46:37]: Very important. They look very nice now because we freshened them up with pine straw. [0:46:38, 0:46:41]: Uh but is that included in this? Cause it certainly needs to be. [0:46:43, 0:46:51]: I'd have to look back because it was some things that staff retained service in, and I think that might be one of them, but I'll look back in the agreement. [0:46:52, 0:46:54]: It's it's it's not uh [0:46:54, 0:46:55]: One of the locations. [0:46:56, 0:46:58]: The front of the elementary school. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Right. [0:46:59, 0:47:05]: It's not well well there's a not the elementary school itself, but there's some planting boxes along the right-of-way. [0:47:05, 0:47:08]: In front of Stockbridge Elementary that certainly [0:47:08, 0:47:15]: You know, that that controls the appearance and it belongs to the city. So could we get that added in to make sure? [0:47:15, 0:47:18]: That that is taken care of as well. [0:47:18, 0:47:19]: Also [0:47:20, 0:47:22]: You referred to where we planted the crate myrtles? [0:47:22, 0:47:23]: Right. [0:47:23, 0:47:43]: The staff staff is maintaining those areas. Let me tell you this. I'm sorry. It's just not working. Okay, we got it fresh and done for the last couple of days. It looked really good for the amphitheater to be done, but I'm asking that possibly be considered to add to this contract because we don't want that side to be looking out of [0:47:43, 0:48:02]: place when City Hall and the amphitheater and the rest of the downtown area is squared up. I uh the picture that I see speaking for myself is when I drive to downtown McDonough, it's on point every day. Not every other day, it's on point every day. And that's kind of where I want us to get to. [0:48:02, 0:48:03]: Афоналі [0:48:04, 0:48:07]: Uh, we haven't got there as a unit ourselves, but I want to see [0:48:07, 0:48:12]: Whether this contractor might be able to do that because we've been able to execute at a high level. [0:48:12, 0:48:14]: All other areas of the city so [0:48:15, 0:48:17]: Yeah, Mr. Knighton, is it possible to [0:48:17, 0:48:24]: Is is it possible? Do we have the numbers to add that in since they do know where it is? Or I don't know, somebody answered that question for me. [0:48:25, 0:48:32]: Yeah, I think it can be added in. I don't know if it's been actually scoped, but I think uh I mean I don't anticipate the cost to be [0:48:33, 0:48:38]: You know, relatively great. Um, but I mean certainly that could be added in. We've got unit pricing. [0:48:39, 0:48:43]: for certain areas. And so we should have a pretty good estimate of what that is and [0:48:44, 0:48:50]: I suppose if that uh is a desire of the council that could be added as part of this, their regular maintenance. [0:48:50, 0:48:56]: Right. I certainly would like to ask that of the colleagues since I cannot make that decision, but we've all seen [0:48:56, 0:49:03]: how that looks on a regular basis. So I would like I would suggest that that be added. Those are my comments. Thank you. [0:49:04, 0:49:05]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [0:49:06, 0:49:11]: Well, uh uh thank you, Mayor Pro Temp. I I don't have a problem with that being added. [0:49:12, 0:49:14]: Версус те кос [0:49:15, 0:49:17]: Uh, for the addition of scope, but [0:49:17, 0:49:20]: But m I I tell you what my problem is here is that [0:49:21, 0:49:22]: If [0:49:22, 0:49:25]: public works or general maintenance. [0:49:25, 0:49:29]: Uh, if this is something that they are responsible for. [0:49:30, 0:49:34]: Uh I I just think they need to be held accountable without incurring [0:49:34, 0:49:36]: the uh the other expense. I don't wanna [0:49:36, 0:49:43]: I don't wanna, you know, shook that simply because as you say, Mayor Pro Tem, it it's not working. [0:49:43, 0:49:44]: Um [0:49:44, 0:49:45]: It must work. [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: Um [0:49:47, 0:49:52]: If this is something uh if this is a responsibility of public works. [0:49:52, 0:49:53]: It must work. [0:49:54, 0:49:55]: So let's not let's not [0:49:56, 0:50:00]: Um, you know, bypass responsibility and accountability. [0:50:01, 0:50:04]: Uh, because as we see it, it is not working. [0:50:04, 0:50:09]: I keep emphasizing uh it must work. So uh Mr. Aaron, uh speak to that. [0:50:10, 0:50:12]: Speak to uh Mayor Pro Tem's concern. [0:50:12, 0:50:15]: And and and can we get the job done? [0:50:15, 0:50:19]: On those on on those bases, as the Mayor Pro Tem is indicating. [0:50:20, 0:50:23]: Those areas are done on a monthly basis. That [0:50:23, 0:50:26]: The uh historic markers and the banners. [0:50:26, 0:50:27]: Pole that [0:50:28, 0:50:29]: Walmart and North Henry. [0:50:30, 0:50:40]: And wall and uh rock core in North Henry staff was doing those on a monthly basis. Those are refreshed. I see it myself. I go by on a regular basis and those it's [0:50:41, 0:50:45]: A group of four guys that are assigned to those locations. [0:50:45, 0:50:49]: So let me ask me for Tim, is he indicating that? [0:50:49, 0:50:53]: And I know we have, you know, grow growing season and and non growing season. [0:50:53, 0:50:56]: But Mayor Pro Tem, are you sort of indicating that? [0:50:56, 0:51:00]: The frequency of the maintenance need to be uh [0:51:00, 0:51:03]: A little a little bit a little bit shorter than one month. [0:51:03, 0:51:05]: Me approaching. [0:51:05, 0:51:22]: If you're asking that question of me, just like we cut the grounds on City Hall every week, that planting in front of Stockbridge Elementary needs to be included that on a weekly basis during growing season and then every two weeks, uh in non-growing season and then [0:51:22, 0:51:42]: quar uh quarterly for the uh the mulch to be refreshed because as I said in all of us council members we see it what we're doing is not working monthly is not working so no it needs to be updated so that's well at that location there is pine straw there's just pine straw and surrounding those [0:51:42, 0:51:45]: uh prertles and those shrubs that were planted. [0:51:46, 0:51:55]: So uh Ms. Barb, if I can just follow up real quick and then I I'll jump off. So and hopefully um Councilwoman Barr, you may speak to the frequency as well. [0:51:55, 0:52:14]: So Mayor Pro Tem, and uh and I guess I'm putting this out to all of the council members, uh, is this something that we may need to and especially during the growing season? I I have to sort of look at that during the non-growing season. But now if if we are sort of suggesting and recommending that at least during the growing season, [0:52:15, 0:52:19]: That that frequency is maybe cut to uh every two weeks because again. [0:52:19, 0:52:25]: Um that appearance in downtown right across from uh city hall. [0:52:26, 0:52:27]: Uh it must. [0:52:28, 0:52:30]: It must be maintaining upkept. [0:52:31, 0:52:36]: So uh Mayor, thank you and I'm I'm going to jump off. Oh no problem. Uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:52:37, 0:52:41]: I was just going to suggest um that we go ahead and approve. [0:52:42, 0:52:43]: This contract award. [0:52:44, 0:52:45]: But add [0:52:45, 0:52:46]: One. [0:52:48, 0:52:52]: Add a motion for an addendum so that staff can go back. [0:52:53, 0:52:53]: Um [0:52:54, 0:52:57]: and price whatever the new scope will be. [0:52:57, 0:52:59]: Uh whether we do it weekly. [0:53:00, 0:53:01]: Bi weekly. [0:53:03, 0:53:05]: Is that okay for Mayor Pro Tem? [0:53:06, 0:53:09]: And we can approve this and then just add in the motion. [0:53:10, 0:53:11]: for staff to bring back. [0:53:12, 0:53:14]: um an addendum or an amendment. [0:53:15, 0:53:16]: to this contract. [0:53:16, 0:53:18]: To add those areas. [0:53:19, 0:53:26]: If that question is for me, then uh if they could bring it back at the next meeting, I would be okay with it. I just don't want it lingering out there. [0:53:26, 0:53:29]: Yeah. Can I can I ask a question real quick about this area? [0:53:30, 0:53:31]: Yes, go ahead, sir. [0:53:31, 0:53:39]: Um, is it the area across the street from City Hall that's below the wall? Like it's on the sidewalk. Yes. [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: Yeah, that that that was part of our deal. [0:53:42, 0:53:43]: That was part of our deal. [0:53:43, 0:53:45]: The area above the wall. [0:53:45, 0:53:46]: Um [0:53:46, 0:53:47]: Goes. [0:53:47, 0:53:49]: It was under our understanding that goes with the school. [0:53:50, 0:53:55]: But everything that's below the wall, along the sidewalk, that that's gonna be maintained by us weekly. [0:53:55, 0:53:58]: Okay, that's great. That's that's that's it then we're good. [0:53:58, 0:53:59]: Okay. [0:53:59, 0:53:59]: Right. [0:54:00, 0:54:02]: Stand back. Um Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:54:03, 0:54:09]: I don't know. Do we need to hold it up until or whatever? Because I'm just trying to get in here. [0:54:10, 0:54:18]: Thank you, sir. Um my question is that when we talk about beautification at the um city hall. [0:54:18, 0:54:23]: There's times we go by there's nothing but pine straw. When I go to other cities, there's [0:54:23, 0:54:30]: There's plants, they're their winter plants, fall plants, their summer uh beautification. [0:54:30, 0:54:45]: Uh uh is that uh should we expect that? And I'm gonna want to follow up questions, should we expect some type of beautification other than pine straw and and and pruning those trees back? Uh because I think the foliage is of those trees is is really uh [0:54:45, 0:54:51]: Even going from City Hall over to the courts is just really those crate murders are out of control. [0:54:52, 0:54:55]: Um, what I've seen that they're not prone back. [0:54:55, 0:54:57]: Um throughout this throughout my [0:54:57, 0:55:00]: community in my uh subdivision. [0:55:00, 0:55:03]: One of the things about crepe murders, if you don't prune them back, [0:55:04, 0:55:24]: They're going to grow bigger, out of control and larger uh in the off season. Craig Murders are the type of trees that grow right back, and they grow back as beautiful as they were as they were uh the previous year. So that's the first question. Uh and I guess the second question would be, m uh, Mrs. Dace, because I know a lot of times when we get into the [0:55:24, 0:55:25]: [3325.9, 3328.0]: We talk about how pressure washing. [0:55:28, 0:55:40]: Um, and I don't know if this is involved in it. Pressure washing is uh in winter months or gets kind of interesting. So are we gonna have pressure washing prior to the cold coming in? [0:55:40, 0:55:47]: And and whatever areas we have for beautification. And and I know I got three questions. I'm trying to jump in because I don't know when I get back in. [0:55:47, 0:55:49]: And the last one is this including [0:55:50, 0:55:50]: Um [0:55:51, 0:55:56]: Also, is it including when we the completion of Lee Street and the beautification over on Lee Street? [0:55:58, 0:56:18]: Councilman Blount, this does not include Lee Street because we don't know what the final landscaping plan or design is for that area, but once it's completed, then we can add it in. As far as pressure washing, we just recently pressure washed City Hall and the roof at City Hall as well. We did some other pressure washing around. [0:56:18, 0:56:27]: On City Hall. So pressure wash. And I don't know which areas you were referring to as far as pressure washing at City Hall or any other location. [0:56:27, 0:56:33]: Well, when we when I said pressure wash from Ms. Daisy, I'm saying that if you just did it, thank you. [0:56:33, 0:56:49]: But there's times when there uh I don't know how often you do you guys pressure wash, but there's times where the uh the oxidation and stuff that happens on that concrete that looks pretty, you know, it's it's city hall, you know, with this with this big F emphasis behind it that that's [0:56:50, 0:56:54]: That w that we've all uh built that is amphitheater. We want to make City Hall. [0:56:54, 0:57:04]: uh kind of like the uh focal point, ground zero, what we want to see around the city. And so uh I I think that's the concern of this whole council that we're on top of that. [0:57:04, 0:57:10]: Uh and I thank you with the uh with the answer when it came to uh Lee Street. [0:57:10, 0:57:12]: But but also I'm just [0:57:12, 0:57:16]: What what is different that that we're gonna be doing when it comes to [0:57:17, 0:57:22]: the plannings and things around City Hall. I'm just trying to figure out we we get we get ready to award a contract and vote on it. [0:57:23, 0:57:32]: Uh potentially. So I'm just trying to figure out what exactly are we going to be getting either from public works or from this new contract when it comes to beautification around City Hall. [0:57:35, 0:57:39]: I'll let Mr. Mangle speak to that as he's. Yes, sir. Thanks so much. [0:57:40, 0:57:44]: This this picture right here behind me, this is actually our seasonal flowers. [0:57:45, 0:57:48]: Uh, in some of our pots that we've got also our communities. [0:57:49, 0:57:52]: Um, I know in all of your seasonal flower beds. [0:57:52, 0:57:53]: We're gonna be changing them. [0:57:54, 0:57:56]: Two flowers like this. [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: Um, we're gonna do your fall and winter flowers, which is coming up. [0:58:01, 0:58:01]: Uh [0:58:01, 0:58:03]: Within the next two to three weeks. [0:58:04, 0:58:07]: So all the empty flower beds that's out there and you you've got quite a few [0:58:08, 0:58:10]: Uh seasonal flower beds that are empty. [0:58:10, 0:58:12]: So all those are gonna get filled uh filled up. [0:58:13, 0:58:13]: Well, the fall. [0:58:14, 0:58:18]: And then we're gonna rotate'em and put brand new flowers in'em come next spring too. [0:58:19, 0:58:21]: Um and then we did a property wall. [0:58:22, 0:58:23]: About a week and a half ago. [0:58:24, 0:58:26]: And we saw a lot of the roses. [0:58:26, 0:58:29]: And certain uh plants that are dying out. [0:58:30, 0:58:33]: So we've got a good plan to come back in and replace them with some more. [0:58:33, 0:58:34]: Barber. [0:58:34, 0:58:35]: Colorful. [0:58:35, 0:58:38]: uh flower and shrubbery to replace them as well. [0:58:39, 0:58:43]: And so we'll be we'll be uh proposing that to you all as well. [0:58:44, 0:58:56]: Thank you. Just to follow up, Mayor, if you if you will. Go ahead, sir. Uh I I because I've seen your company, I've seen this company on the northern end of towns and in several places. I'm assuming it's a really big company, because I've seen them. [0:58:57, 0:59:02]: quite a few places and and I've seen the work that you all are doing. We just want to make sure that we get that down here. [0:59:02, 0:59:05]: On the south side of the stock bridge and we want to [0:59:05, 0:59:13]: You know, we're not trying to mimic anybody, but we just want to look we just want to look as best as we can look. You know, we wanna you know absolutely. [0:59:13, 0:59:15]: Actually I'm a [0:59:15, 0:59:17]: Southside Gow myself. [0:59:17, 0:59:21]: I was born and raised in Griffin. I live in in McDonough now, so [0:59:22, 0:59:24]: I come right by Stockbridge. [0:59:25, 0:59:25]: Twice a day. [0:59:26, 0:59:28]: And I see it and and [0:59:29, 0:59:30]: A lot of the people that [0:59:30, 0:59:32]: That I associate with. [0:59:32, 0:59:34]: Live in that area as well and so. [0:59:35, 0:59:39]: I've got uh I've got a lot of emphasis on Yale City. [0:59:40, 0:59:41]: As well. [0:59:41, 0:59:49]: Fantastic. Mr. Mr. Megan, but when I talked about the trees though, we I guess you guys looked at everywhere. [0:59:49, 0:59:54]: And you see that as a serio we have a serious issue with trees need to be really pruned back. [0:59:54, 1:00:02]: Yeah, especially the ones on the front corner of the city hall. Yes. [1:00:03, 1:00:07]: We saw that the other day. We we're walking in the rain, so it was wet, all the limbs were [1:00:07, 1:00:10]: were wet, heavy and hanging over and stuff. So yeah, we [1:00:11, 1:00:15]: We definitely saw that. Our contract uh states that we will do tree pruning. [1:00:15, 1:00:17]: Um up to a height of [1:00:17, 1:00:19]: I believe it's ten feet. I'll check on that. [1:00:20, 1:00:21]: Um and we take [1:00:21, 1:00:23]: We take crepe myrtles. [1:00:23, 1:00:24]: Oh [1:00:24, 1:00:26]: On an individual basis. [1:00:26, 1:00:32]: We'll look at crate. We typically don't prune a lot over the the top of the canopy of a crate myrtle. [1:00:33, 1:00:38]: But we'll take it on an individual basis and and and decide how we want to prune each one. [1:00:38, 1:00:44]: Now the trees at the corner of City Hall, they aren't they aren't creating myrtles. Uh those are elm trees. [1:00:45, 1:00:47]: And those are the ones where the the limbs are hanging down, but [1:00:47, 1:00:53]: We we've seen a lot of lot of tree work that needs to be done and we're gonna we're gonna jump on it right out the gate. [1:00:54, 1:00:54]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:00:55, 1:00:58]: You're welcome, sir. Uh Councilman Tom uh uh Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:00:59, 1:01:03]: Thank you, Mayor. Um lastly, Mr. Mingum, I I don't want to miss [1:01:03, 1:01:11]: Uh the statement that you made going back to um Stockbridge Elementary School, uh the frequency, if I'm not mistaken. [1:01:12, 1:01:14]: You said that you will be analyzing [1:01:15, 1:01:19]: Uh that scope of work on a weekly basis. [1:01:19, 1:01:22]: Yes, sir. The whole contract for every [1:01:22, 1:01:23]: Area [1:01:24, 1:01:27]: Oh, that encompasses the contract is weekly. [1:01:28, 1:01:28]: April [1:01:29, 1:01:30]: Through October. [1:01:31, 1:01:35]: And bi weekly November through March. So your off your off season. [1:01:36, 1:01:40]: is uh bi weekly and and the growing seasons weekly. Yes, sir. [1:01:41, 1:01:41]: Okay. [1:01:42, 1:01:45]: I I just want to emphasize that that fact because [1:01:45, 1:01:45]: Uh [1:01:46, 1:01:47]: That look [1:01:48, 1:01:49]: They're um [1:01:50, 1:01:51]: All around City Hall. [1:01:52, 1:02:03]: pretty much all the way down to the North Indian precinct. And and I'm not suggesting your scope to this another scope, but I'm just saying uh when people come over that bridge. [1:02:03, 1:02:07]: Um, you know, that is, you know, the sight that they see. [1:02:07, 1:02:15]: And we just want to make sure all of that is um, you know, the campus of City Hall, that it is nice. Yes, sir. Absolutely. [1:02:17, 1:02:25]: All right, Mary Po Tim, we'll make this the last pull round. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is. I just want to make the statement. Mr. Mangum says he lives in McDonald's, so he drives right by the square. [1:02:26, 1:02:27]: On a regular basis. [1:02:27, 1:02:29]: And uh if it's [1:02:29, 1:02:32]: If that's the minimum requirement here, okay. [1:02:32, 1:02:37]: So if you drive by there and you can get the minimum requirement there and above. [1:02:37, 1:02:39]: That's kind of what we're looking at. Certainly. [1:02:39, 1:02:44]: Uh what Mr. Blount had mentioned about the flowers and the beautification, I certainly could [1:02:44, 1:02:52]: uh support that uh as well. So I will go ahead and make a motion to approve this contract so we can move this forward. [1:02:52, 1:02:53]: Yeah, second. [1:02:54, 1:02:58]: Is there a second? Miss Gantt second dad. Okay, any further discussion? [1:02:59, 1:03:05]: And if not all mayor, with is that is that with an addendum to come back with a pricing on uh the other? [1:03:05, 1:03:09]: Is that gonna be added that we we would have them to look at? [1:03:09, 1:03:21]: uh the pricing on other uh objects that or is this just for this right here it's just for this motion it the there's no other addendum that he mentioned in in this particular motion at all okay all right so all in favor of motion please indicate [1:03:23, 1:03:25]: Okay, nasty season. Thank you very much. [1:03:26, 1:03:30]: All right. No, that was a lot of unanimous. [1:03:30, 1:03:34]: That was not unanimous. Oh you oh I'm sorry, you vote you vote against the motion? [1:03:35, 1:03:39]: I'm abstaining. You're abstaining. Okay. I'm sorry, four zero one. [1:03:40, 1:03:41]: For the Riker. [1:03:42, 1:03:45]: There's information uh we've discussed here. [1:03:45, 1:03:46]: But [1:03:46, 1:03:49]: None of that information was provided to us in writing. [1:03:49, 1:03:54]: We don't have a contract in front of us for us to see the standard language. [1:03:54, 1:03:57]: That spelled out everything, Mr. Mangum. [1:03:58, 1:04:01]: has agreed to. So I'm just abstaining for that reason. [1:04:01, 1:04:04]: All right, four zero one. Thank you for the clarification. [1:04:04, 1:04:06]: Uh Council Cruise. [1:04:07, 1:04:07]: I'm sorry. [1:04:09, 1:04:11]: Oh I'm sorry, Mayor. I meant to mute. [1:04:11, 1:04:31]: Okay. All right. So uh Mr. Magnum, you can thank you, sir. You can stay as long as you like. Appreciate it. And I look forward to uh wonderful beautification that your company's gonna do for the city stop bridge. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. We're gonna get started next week on it. Look forward to it. Good deal. All right. Take care. All right. Council consideration to increase purchase order number three eight one five zero. [1:04:31, 1:04:51]: For uh uh what's this, Cedar Chem, Cedar Chem from$30,000 to$35,000 for the purchase of uh Cyprus Phosphorus, Phosphorus CC2050. This will allow the staff to increase the purchase order by$5,000. The funding source is the from the sewer department. [1:04:51, 1:04:56]: It uh budgeted funds presented by Mr. Aaron and uh Brad. [1:04:56, 1:04:57]: Gentlemen, please. [1:04:58, 1:05:13]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. A couple of years ago, the EPD required the city to start monitoring for phosphorus. And so we're using a chemical to remove phosphorus from our effluent before it's discharged into the stream. So now it has become a part of our permit. [1:05:13, 1:05:33]: And with the pandemic and more people are being at home, we're using more uh PAC, which is polyaluminum chloride, to remove the phosphorus. And so we're asking that we be allowed to increase the purchase order so we can buy additional chemicals. And we were informed by procurement that. [1:05:33, 1:05:44]: Mr. Knighton's signing authority, the city manager signing authority is only twenty-five thousand dollars. So that's why we're coming before mayor and council because we need to increase the purchase order to buy additional. [1:05:44, 1:05:46]: uh poly aluminum chloride. [1:05:47, 1:05:48]: Uh, Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [1:05:49, 1:05:59]: Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve the uh increase$5,000 to for counseling for the uh purchase order number uh 38150 for the uh um [1:06:00, 1:06:01]: For the um [1:06:01, 1:06:04]: Um for the фосфорос. [1:06:04, 1:06:08]: C C twenty fifty for this uh purchase. No second. [1:06:09, 1:06:25]: I second. Okay, Miss Ms. Gantt, second that any further discussion? And if not, all in favor, please indicate. Aye. Okay. Okay, this is an that is announced decision. Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. And now for my comments. [1:06:26, 1:06:30]: And a couple things here. One is that yes, sir. [1:06:30, 1:06:37]: You would do me a favor and indulge me. Based on the fact that we had such a great weekend, I would would I suggest that. [1:06:38, 1:06:47]: All the council members be able to make a comment tonight and return council comments to the agenda because of the historic occasion that we just [1:06:47, 1:06:50]: uh went to so everybody could talk about what happened. [1:06:50, 1:06:54]: Just since we eat in end in the meeting pr fairly quickly. [1:06:54, 1:06:59]: That everybody could say a few words about the magnificent uh occurrence over the weekend. [1:07:00, 1:07:05]: Well, I was gonna cover that uh in my comments, but uh we'll see what the council wants to do. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:07:06, 1:07:12]: Mayor, you know, I'm I'm fine with your comments because I just don't want uh [1:07:12, 1:07:25]: us to prolong anything and you know when when you look at it being an election year, I just don't want things to get too political. I think that your comments right now, and it's I think it's up to you to decide whether you want to deviate from that. But uh [1:07:25, 1:07:38]: You know, this is sealed. I mean, make your comments. We do what we gotta do. Uh people enjoyed it. It's been all over social media, it's been all over the uh newspapers, and everybody knows that Stock Bridge is moving in a great direction. So [1:07:38, 1:07:39]: You know [1:07:40, 1:07:46]: To prolong thirty more minutes for count counselor to come in on a on on an event is kind of interesting right now for me. [1:07:49, 1:08:09]: Appreciate it. No problem. All right. Well, I mean, I was I was gonna cover all that. Uh I was gonna start with uh with uh T-SPLOST actually is what I'm gonna start with. And I want the citizens to know that T-SPLOST is extremely important. This uh additional penny on a dollar is very helpful for us in in Starbury's and also Henry County. So that's November second. Uh that you need to vote yes. [1:08:09, 1:08:26]: For T S PLOS. Now, if you vote yes, that's estimated to be roughly$245 to$250 million over a five-year period for the county itself. And the city of Stobbridge is scheduled to get$30.5 million and estimated over that five-year period. Now, obviously. [1:08:26, 1:08:46]: We have a program set of improvements on transportation that we want to do. And I want to just talk to you about a little bit about that. And these improvements will include Rock Croix Road widening. It also includes uh Hudson Bridge and Eagles Landing Parkway resurfacing. Uh, we're looking at, of course, all types of of [1:08:46, 1:09:06]: Of um curb, gutter, sidewalks, resurfacing, traffic, and safety improvements for many, many streets within side of City Limited Stockbridge, such as Wilson Avenue, Nolan Street, Child Street, Walker Street, Wells Street, Jennings Way, Second Street, First Street, Ty Street, Church Street, Carrie May Lane. [1:09:06, 1:09:15]: Davison Parkway, Old Atlanta Road, Davis Road, Shields Road, MLK Senior Heritage Trail, Burke Street, Walt Stevens. [1:09:16, 1:09:17]: Love Street. [1:09:18, 1:09:38]: Count uh Country Club Drive, Reeves Creek Trail Extensions, and Bush Creek. Those are the type of improvements over the five-year period we would do in the city of Stockbridge. We got programmed, but citizens, constituents, we need you to vote yes to the T-SPLOST November 2nd. If you do that, we'll get it done. If you don't do that for some strange reason, [1:09:38, 1:09:53]: reason, then it'll take a lot longer to get those things done and those improvements made uh and uh conducted inside the city limits itself. Okay, so we need your support in that. Please please vote yes, November 2nd on T Splash. Of course, we're still living in a pandemic. [1:09:53, 1:10:13]: So you you still have to wear your mask, and we want to encourage everybody to get uh tested and vaccinated. Testing is good, but vaccination is better. Right now, the uh for the um state of Georgia, only 47% of uh population in the state of Georgia is fully vaccinated, and only roughly 55% of the uh in [1:10:13, 1:10:33]: Individuals in the state are really only have one vaccination shot. Vaccinations, of course, are free and safe and then they'll hopefully assist you to keep you alive. Henry County, we've had over 27,866 confirmed cases. And so far, unfortunately, we had 395 deaths over the course of this last year. [1:10:33, 1:10:34]: Year and a half. [1:10:35, 1:10:55]: Free COVID-19 testing is done every day at Red Hawk Field, located at Henry Parkway, right down the street from the public health department, right across the street where the Henry County uh commissioned admin office is located. That's Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Okay. And of course, you can always contact the Department of Health at 800-847-425-275-275-2. [1:10:55, 1:10:57]: four six two. [1:10:58, 1:11:07]: at four six two two I believe it is. I'm sorry. And to call them in reference to uh getting to make an appointment in this aspect as well or state of Georgia Health Department as eight eight eight [1:11:08, 1:11:11]: Uh four five seven zero one eight six. [1:11:12, 1:11:32]: Vaccine vaccine approval, the FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine, Pfizer uh biotech for individuals 16 years or older. The vaccination, or excuse me, the vaccine continues under a the what you call U, excuse me, EUA emergency use authority for individuals 12 to 15. [1:11:32, 1:11:52]: 15 years old. And the third dose for the Pfizer vaccination is right now available for immune compromised individuals. So it's pretty safe to do get the vaccination and please do so. And eventually we'll be able to stomp out this particular virus itself. [1:11:52, 1:11:56]: And obviously, as was mentioned earlier, we had a fantastic event. [1:11:56, 1:11:58]: This past Saturday. [1:11:58, 1:12:03]: with a grand opening of our State of Art Amphitheater. And yes, there's been nothing but good positive reviews about that. [1:12:04, 1:12:07]: Uh Patty LaBelle and Gladys Knight just turned it turned it out. [1:12:07, 1:12:25]: I mean, really, it was a great time and a great time had by all, I will say. And uh we will continue to do those uh those uh great concerts and those great times as years go on. The very next concert is uh set for October 23rd, Saturday, October 23rd be eight o'clock. [1:12:26, 1:12:46]: And I have the I think I have this correct now, but tickets will go on sale tomorrow at 12 noon. Tomorrow 12 noon. And that'll be for Freddie Jackson and Chaka Khan. So that's October 23rd, uh Saturday, 8 p.m. Freddie Jackson, the initial um uh the initial uh individual on stage with the main [1:12:46, 1:13:00]: event will be Chaka Khan. And so look forward to another great event in a couple of weeks from now. And then uh of course this is just a prelude to what the 2022 season will look like. But fantastic. All types of of of um [1:13:01, 1:13:21]: Great public reviews from newspaper articles. I guess I'm from Black Enterprise as well. This fantastic. And so nothing but a great, great thing. So we got to continue this momentum going on and continue to do great things for our city and make Starbury's even greater city than it than it is today. [1:13:20, 1:13:40]: To the upcoming meetings and announcements. Main Street Advisory Board meeting is second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. by way of Zoom, which is October 8th. The city council meeting at 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, second Monday of each month, October 11th. Youth Council meetings 5:30 by way of Zoom, second Wednesday of each month, October 13th. [1:13:41, 1:13:47]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third two uh third Tuesday of each month, which is October 19th. [1:13:47, 1:13:53]: Youth Council Advisor meeting at 630 by way of Zoom third Tuesday of each month, which is October 19th. [1:13:53, 1:14:03]: The planning commission meeting is at 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, fourth Thursday of each month, October 28th, and our city council uh work session. [1:14:04, 1:14:22]: is uh the last Tuesday months would be October 16th, but our council meeting uh in October is going to be, I believe it's October 11th, I believe it is. Um I believe it's October 11th. Uh that'd be that Monday, uh that first uh second Monday in in the month. [1:14:22, 1:14:30]: Uh that's all my uh my comments at this time. And Ms. Barber, I don't know, would you have your hand up for something, man? What's what's on your mind? [1:14:30, 1:14:41]: Can you um speak about Zumba? We are continuing the Zumba classes. I'm sorry. Well go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. We're continuing our Zumba classes every Saturday beginning at 8 a.m. [1:14:41, 1:14:42]: At Clark Park. [1:14:43, 1:14:51]: Hope to see you there. Good deal. Appreciate it. Wasn't on my list, but I appreciate you saying that. Maybe you said October 16th. That's on here, October 28th. [1:14:52, 1:14:57]: October twenty four to kid city council work session. [1:14:57, 1:14:59]: Last Tuesday beast month. [1:15:00, 1:15:05]: It's October twenty eighth. October I guess it says October twenty sixth here. Is it October twenty eighth? [1:15:06, 1:15:07]: What's the calendar look like? [1:15:10, 1:15:18]: That's what we have October twenty eighth on here. Uh well I'm sorry, it's twenty sixth. October twenty sixth. But you said sixteenth. I'm sorry, but you said sixteenth early. [1:15:19, 1:15:24]: No, and then the council meeting. I'm sorry, our next council meeting is actually on October eleventh. [1:15:24, 1:15:27]: All right, which is Columbus Day. It's October evening October eleventh, six o'clock. [1:15:28, 1:15:29]: Gamble. [1:15:29, 1:15:32]: All right. On that note, do we need to go into a second session? [1:15:35, 1:15:41]: All right. If if no in the next session, I'm uh I need a motion to um adjourn our meet. [1:15:41, 1:15:43]: Mr. Blount so moves there a second. [1:15:44, 1:15:48]: Mr. Alexander second that all in favor, please indicate. [1:15:49, 1:15:49]: Hi. Yeah. [1:15:50, 1:15:53]: Fantastic. Announced your season. This is a very quick meeting tonight, ladies and gentlemen. [1:15:53, 1:15:57]: Have a good day, good time. Take care of yourself and God bless you all. Bye bye.

--- title: Planning Commission Meeting date: 2021-09-23 source: 2021-09-23_Planning_Commission_Meeting.wav --- [0:04:26, 0:04:30]: I guess I will be uh be back at six thirty, huh? IT support. [0:04:32, 0:04:36]: Yes, sir. I just start a little early just to make sure everything's coposthetic. [0:04:37, 0:04:40]: Okay, he was starting for the for starting at six. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Yeah, it's at six thirty usually. [0:04:42, 0:04:45]: Yeah, the last email came across said it was starting at six. [0:04:45, 0:04:49]: Okay. From what I know it's six thirty, so [0:04:50, 0:04:51]: Very good. Yes, sir. [0:14:37, 0:14:41]: Hey Stanley, it's John Coleman with East Crew properties. Can you hear me okay? [0:14:49, 0:14:49]: [920.0, 921.8]: Sean, I hear you fine. Can you hear me? [0:15:22, 0:15:29]: Ah yes, thank you. I've had problems with my audio in the past. I just want to make sure before we get started. Thank you. Sure. [0:21:27, 0:21:29]: How you doing, Abdullah? [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: Abdullah, can you hear me? [0:21:48, 0:21:50]: Yeah, hey, how you doing? [0:21:51, 0:21:54]: Uh fine, man. I just wanted to acknowledge your existence. [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: Ha ha ha [0:21:56, 0:22:00]: That was funny the other day. I I I had no idea you were out there. [0:22:01, 0:22:05]: Well, you know, I could say we all look alike sometimes, but uh [0:22:06, 0:22:09]: I'm I'm not gonna rake you over the code with the with a mask on. [0:22:09, 0:22:10]: All right. [0:22:13, 0:22:13]: Yeah. [0:22:16, 0:22:18]: So how's life to you? [0:22:19, 0:22:22]: Man, I'm surviving, you know. Um [0:22:23, 0:22:27]: Trying to keep things together, dealing with my grandson periodically. [0:22:28, 0:22:30]: Yeah, I know I had it, but yeah. [0:22:30, 0:22:33]: I gave one a car and I ain't seen him since. [0:22:33, 0:22:34]: Oh man, listen. [0:22:35, 0:22:41]: They come get that money or a car or something they want and you won't see them until they need something else. [0:22:41, 0:22:43]: Well he ain't getting no money now. [0:22:43, 0:22:49]: That joke got a set of wheels and I ain't seen him. I I had a 2000 Mercedes uh M L [0:22:50, 0:22:51]: Three twenty. [0:22:51, 0:22:51]: Mm-hmm. [0:22:52, 0:23:01]: I ain't seen the joker since he got the car, man. Put it in his name and everything. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. Mine's not has not advanced that far yet. [0:23:02, 0:23:06]: Uh he in ball games and Vs and stuff like that. So [0:23:07, 0:23:07]: Uh [0:23:08, 0:23:10]: He got a new trumpets for this uh [0:23:10, 0:23:11]: School semester, so [0:23:12, 0:23:13]: Be happy. [0:23:14, 0:23:15]: No, well that's good. [0:23:15, 0:23:21]: But but but but it's all good then today. No, I th they they ain't gonna get no money out of me, but you know, I'll help'em other ways, but [0:23:22, 0:23:24]: you're gonna have to be put on your hustle shoes. [0:23:24, 0:23:27]: I ain't gonna be okay. Well he's just twelve years old, so [0:23:28, 0:23:29]: Oh well this one's uh [0:23:30, 0:23:31]: In nineteen. [0:23:32, 0:23:33]: Oh, well see, he should know better. [0:23:34, 0:23:37]: Ain't no such thing. [0:23:38, 0:23:41]: Uh no such thing as is no better. [0:23:41, 0:23:42]: Gimme, gimme, gimme. [0:23:43, 0:23:45]: Yeah. Well I say you're gonna have a hard time when you come back, though, see. [0:23:46, 0:23:48]: He's not showing any appreciation for this gift. [0:23:48, 0:23:53]: Well, he he'll be all right, you know, because uh at the end of the day, you know I'm old school, hardcore. [0:23:56, 0:23:58]: Yeah, well you ain't into the gimme gimme. [0:23:58, 0:24:01]: You have to be that way. You have to be that way. [0:24:01, 0:24:02]: Yeah. [0:24:02, 0:24:06]: Yeah, he so he hustling to keep up his ride and put gas in it. [0:24:06, 0:24:07]: Oh yeah. [0:24:07, 0:24:10]: Yeah, yeah, so it ain't it ain't coming out of my pocket. [0:24:11, 0:24:11]: Yeah. [0:24:13, 0:24:13]: Yeah. [0:24:16, 0:24:22]: But uh he he' a good kid regardless, you know, but uh he he he's been spoiled by his uh [0:24:23, 0:24:27]: uh great grandparents his grandma [0:24:27, 0:24:28]: And his mom. [0:24:28, 0:24:29]: Yeah. [0:24:29, 0:24:31]: Is he all three levels, right? That he [0:24:32, 0:24:33]: He got all three levels going on. [0:24:34, 0:24:34]: Is he in school? [0:24:36, 0:24:39]: Uh he dropped out this semester he's supposed to go back in January. [0:24:40, 0:24:40]: Yeah. [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: So [0:24:44, 0:24:44]: Oh yeah. [0:24:45, 0:24:47]: I would you wouldn't have got no car to January. [0:24:47, 0:24:48]: Uh [0:24:48, 0:25:00]: I said, had it been me, he wouldn't have got no car to January. I wanna make sure you get you're on the right road so you take care of yourself. Well, I didn't know he was gonna drop out just about Yeah, so I wouldn't wear it better. Oh you got you got you got hoodwinked. [0:25:01, 0:25:11]: Well, no, I didn't get hood winky, you know, I I I had some issues with it. I had to work on it. I made him get there and work on that bad boy. I put some put some sweat equity in it. [0:25:11, 0:25:14]: Oh okay. Okay. Yeah, I didn't just hand it over to him. [0:25:15, 0:25:17]: I had some motor support problems with it. [0:25:17, 0:25:18]: Mm-hmm. [0:25:18, 0:25:23]: We had to change both of'em on there and I I I see why the dealer charge you a fortune. [0:25:24, 0:25:26]: And and I made him [0:25:26, 0:25:32]: get there and and hustle and learn something and let'em know how hard it is when when when cars break. [0:25:33, 0:25:38]: You know, it ain't a cakewalk, brother. No, it is not. Especially uh especially now. [0:25:39, 0:25:45]: Yeah. I was reading I was reading an article the other day, excuse me. I read an article the day the other day about hydrogen cars coming out. [0:25:45, 0:25:47]: We got one out now, but uh [0:25:48, 0:25:51]: They're not quite sure how that's gonna market. Um [0:25:52, 0:25:56]: That stuff's dangerous. I I used to deal with it in the oil company. [0:25:56, 0:25:56]: Mm-hmm. [0:25:57, 0:26:01]: And uh it ain't nothing to play with. I don't know how how they're [0:26:02, 0:26:04]: containing that stuff, but uh [0:26:05, 0:26:07]: That's it's some dangerous stuff unless you talking [0:26:08, 0:26:12]: uh hydrogen in terms of water, but if you're talking uh [0:26:12, 0:26:14]: Hydrogen from sulfur. [0:26:14, 0:26:15]: Content. [0:26:15, 0:26:17]: It can be very dangerous. [0:26:18, 0:26:19]: Yeah, well. [0:26:20, 0:26:21]: I'm almost sure that's what they're talking about. [0:26:22, 0:26:27]: I hope so because I just kinda scanned the article. I didn't go in detail. I was surprised that they even had something like that out. [0:26:28, 0:26:31]: But I think Audi has or Audi or Volkswagen, one of them has a car out. [0:26:34, 0:26:38]: Yeah. Well I hadn't read it so far on that one. I've read a lot of other uh [0:26:39, 0:26:42]: things that are advancing forward. But uh the hydrogen [0:26:43, 0:26:46]: I read previous in the past on it. [0:26:47, 0:26:57]: Mm-hmm. But not lately. I'm I'm quite sure I'm gonna run across it. Uh we done a lot of inventions and advancements in technology. We're about to start at six thirty. [0:26:58, 0:26:59]: Okay, well that [0:26:59, 0:27:04]: Let me take it off and count and wait for wait for'em to roll, okay? Nice seeing you, man. [0:27:04, 0:27:05]: Take care. Thank you. [0:27:12, 0:27:17]: It is 630. Um I believe it's time for us to start our planning commission meeting. [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: Uh [0:27:21, 0:27:24]: Linda, would you uh be so kind as a call a roll? [0:27:29, 0:27:30]: Linda. [0:27:31, 0:27:32]: You want to give the invocation first? [0:27:35, 0:27:38]: Uh no we want to call a call call to order first. [0:27:40, 0:27:42]: And uh Miss Thividal. [0:27:44, 0:27:46]: Mr. Duncan, you have an invocation for us. [0:27:46, 0:27:47]: I will. [0:27:48, 0:27:49]: Um [0:27:49, 0:27:50]: Bow your head. [0:27:51, 0:27:53]: In the name of Jesus Christ, uh [0:27:55, 0:28:01]: I I hope that you bless this committee and help us make the right decis decisions towards the citizens of Stockbridge. [0:28:02, 0:28:03]: And the city. [0:28:04, 0:28:05]: In Jesus' name, amen. [0:28:06, 0:28:06]: In the end. [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: Uh Pled of Allegiance. [0:28:11, 0:28:14]: Or place your right hand over your chest, let's say a pledge allegiance together. [0:28:16, 0:28:31]: I pledge allegiance with a flag United States of America to Republicans with Japanese. One nation undergone indivisible liberty and just all. [0:28:33, 0:28:34]: Roll call um [0:28:35, 0:28:35]: Uh Linda. [0:28:36, 0:28:38]: Yes, Askia Abdullah. [0:28:38, 0:28:39]: Present. [0:28:40, 0:28:42]: Stanley Dumas? [0:28:42, 0:28:42]: Present. [0:28:44, 0:28:45]: Harold Thibodeau? [0:28:46, 0:28:46]: Present. [0:28:47, 0:28:48]: Kathleen Nelson. [0:28:49, 0:28:50]: Present. [0:28:51, 0:28:52]: David Planchon. [0:28:52, 0:28:53]: Present. [0:28:54, 0:28:55]: Mr. Chairman, we have a quorum. [0:28:56, 0:28:57]: Thank you. [0:28:58, 0:28:58]: Uh [0:28:59, 0:29:01]: I have a motion to adopt the agenda today. [0:29:02, 0:29:06]: Mr. Chairman, I move that we adopt the agenda as printed. [0:29:07, 0:29:08]: Have a second. [0:29:08, 0:29:09]: I second that. [0:29:10, 0:29:14]: It's been moved and second the agenda for the day, September twenty-third. [0:29:15, 0:29:18]: uh two thousand and one is adopted as printed. [0:29:19, 0:29:25]: Uh we have the approval of the February twenty fifth twenty-fifth meeting uh minutes. [0:29:26, 0:29:29]: Want to review those and see if there are any changes to be made. [0:29:39, 0:29:40]: Hearing none. [0:29:42, 0:29:46]: I'm I have a motion to adopt the amendments of the February twenty fifth meeting. [0:29:47, 0:29:51]: I make a motion to adopt the minutes of the February twenty-fifth meeting. [0:29:51, 0:29:52]: Second [0:29:53, 0:29:55]: It's been moved and seconded. [0:29:55, 0:29:58]: The February twenty fifth meeting uh limits have been adopted. [0:29:59, 0:30:03]: Approval of the May twenty seventh meeting minutes. [0:30:05, 0:30:10]: Mr. Chairman, I move that we adopt the minutes of the May twenty-seventh meeting. [0:30:11, 0:30:11]: Have a second. [0:30:12, 0:30:13]: Second. [0:30:14, 0:30:18]: It's been moved and seconded. The uh minutes from the February twenty seventh meeting. [0:30:19, 0:30:21]: uh have been approved and adopted. [0:30:22, 0:30:24]: Now we have an election of officers. [0:30:27, 0:30:35]: Uh we currently don't have a vice uh chair. Uh Ms. Wallace is uh no longer a member of the planning commission. [0:30:36, 0:30:37]: Um [0:30:38, 0:30:40]: I nominate myself as chairman again. [0:30:44, 0:30:55]: Mr. Chairman, uh point of clarity, uh uh is this election for the remainder of 2021 or are we electing officers for 21 and 22? [0:30:58, 0:31:00]: Uh according to the minutes, so twenty one. [0:31:02, 0:31:05]: Well, it would be twenty one, twenty two because that's for the next uh [0:31:06, 0:31:14]: Well, actually actually, um officers are supposed to be elected the beginning of of each year. It should have been happening. [0:31:14, 0:31:17]: Done in January. So really it's just for this year. [0:31:19, 0:31:35]: All right. Chairman, Chairman, I if if I may for clarification, um, yes, the this will be just for the duration of twenty twenty one. And then the first meeting that we have in twenty twenty two, we'll do a election of offices then as well. Okay, well [0:31:37, 0:31:42]: Thank you. This is only for twenty twenty for the balance of twenty twenty one. [0:31:42, 0:31:52]: Correct. So you have option to make the change now or you can wait until next year in January to do it since we're towards the end of the year. [0:31:52, 0:31:56]: So that we don't have to do this twice. We may or may not even have another meeting. [0:31:56, 0:32:05]: was without in the end of the year. Uh I would move that we uh amend it and make it to the end so that we start on time the beginning of the year. [0:32:05, 0:32:11]: However, I would move that we uh uh nominate a vice chair for the remaining of the uh year. [0:32:12, 0:32:13]: Okay. [0:32:13, 0:32:14]: Yeah. [0:32:15, 0:32:17]: I would nominate Harold Kibdon. [0:32:19, 0:32:20]: For vice chair. [0:32:24, 0:32:25]: Yeah, a second. [0:32:28, 0:32:28]: I was second it. [0:32:30, 0:32:31]: All right. [0:32:31, 0:32:33]: Uh been moved in second. [0:32:34, 0:32:37]: Yeah, the dividendal will finish out this year as vice chair. [0:32:38, 0:32:39]: Any discussion? [0:32:41, 0:32:55]: Hearing none has been moved and uh approved. Uh Harold Thibodeau will act as the vice chair for the remaining of this year. Mr. Chairman, uh point of order. I I do believe that after that motion was second, doesn't that require vote? [0:32:57, 0:33:00]: Yes, it does. All right. Well let's have a vote. [0:33:02, 0:33:04]: All those approved, let it be known by the sign of I. [0:33:05, 0:33:07]: Hi. Hi. [0:33:07, 0:33:08]: Those opposed? [0:33:10, 0:33:12]: The as have it. Motion is carried. [0:33:13, 0:33:20]: Oh excuse me, Mr. Chairman. Um what was decided on on the chairmanship? Is it just for the rest of this year? [0:33:20, 0:33:24]: Rest of this year. Rest of this year. I'll serve for the rest of this year. [0:33:24, 0:33:28]: And Hell Thibodeau will act there, will serve as vice chair for the rest of the year. [0:33:28, 0:33:29]: Okay. [0:33:30, 0:33:30]: Thank you. [0:33:31, 0:33:31]: Okay. [0:33:33, 0:33:40]: And uh I I would only do it the rest of this year. I I think after that point I'd be looking for someone else. [0:33:41, 0:33:43]: to take that position. [0:33:44, 0:33:44]: [2025.2, 2029.7]: Okay. Well we will have a we'll have another vote at the beginning of the year. [0:33:51, 0:33:52]: So [0:33:53, 0:33:53]: Uh [0:33:55, 0:33:56]: Just serving to the end of this year. [0:33:58, 0:33:58]: Thank you. [0:33:59, 0:33:59]: Okay. [0:34:01, 0:34:06]: The next item on the agenda is the proposed Davison Park uh Parkway Commerce Center. [0:34:07, 0:34:08]: Uh [0:34:09, 0:34:13]: Well, Mr. Chair, can uh when you do open it up for discussion. [0:34:13, 0:34:15]: I I had I had some [0:34:16, 0:34:22]: thoughts about it and and I think it's just a good thought w if when you give me an opportunity to speak on. [0:34:23, 0:34:23]: Все. [0:34:24, 0:34:29]: But uh the item is the proposed Davison Property Commerce Center. [0:34:30, 0:34:33]: rezoning case number R Z twenty twenty one oh one. [0:34:36, 0:34:37]: When the [0:34:38, 0:34:40]: Uh Miss Johnson, would you like to say a few words first? [0:34:44, 0:34:44]: No? [0:34:45, 0:34:45]: Okay. [0:34:46, 0:34:48]: To uh Mr. Chairman, should I read this into the record? [0:34:49, 0:34:49]: Все. [0:34:50, 0:34:56]: Okay, so we have proposed Davidson Parkway Commerce Center as a proposed project and it actually has [0:34:56, 0:34:57]: Two cases that go with it. [0:34:58, 0:35:04]: And the first one is we zoning case number RZ two oh two one hyphen oh one. [0:35:04, 0:35:08]: City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and City of Stockbridge Mayor and City Council. [0:35:09, 0:35:10]: We'll hear a rezoning quest. [0:35:11, 0:35:13]: Request by East Group Properties LP, the applicant. [0:35:14, 0:35:19]: To rezone certain property from C three heavy commercial to M one light manufacturing. [0:35:19, 0:35:23]: To allow for the development of a business distribution center within five new buildings. [0:35:24, 0:35:27]: Properties located in landlock fifty seven of District twelve. [0:35:27, 0:35:29]: within the Stockbridge city limits. [0:35:29, 0:35:34]: It contains three parcels with seventy nine point one seven plus or minus total acres. [0:35:34, 0:35:35]: As well as [0:35:35, 0:35:39]: Parcel number O three O hyphen O one O nine thousand. [0:35:39, 0:35:42]: Contains seventy three point eight eight acres. [0:35:42, 0:35:43]: Located to the rear. [0:35:44, 0:35:47]: Of the southwest corner of Davidson Parkway and Walter Way. [0:35:48, 0:35:51]: Parcel number O three oh hyphen oh one oh oh [0:35:51, 0:35:52]: Nine oh oh six [0:35:52, 0:35:54]: Contains one point six six acres. [0:35:55, 0:35:59]: Located on the south side of Davidson Parkway, one lot west of Walterway. [0:35:59, 0:36:01]: And parcel number. [0:36:01, 0:36:05]: O three O hyphen O one O nine O five contains three point [0:36:06, 0:36:07]: Six three acres. [0:36:08, 0:36:10]: Located on the west side of Walter Way, two lots. [0:36:11, 0:36:11]: South of [0:36:12, 0:36:13]: Davidson Parkway. [0:36:13, 0:36:14]: Um [0:36:15, 0:36:19]: I do need to mention that the applicant has now decided to [0:36:19, 0:36:20]: Um [0:36:20, 0:36:22]: Remove one of the parcels from [0:36:22, 0:36:23]: Consideration [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: And that is the um [0:36:26, 0:36:28]: The one on well the small parcel on [0:36:29, 0:36:29]: Walter Wade. [0:36:31, 0:36:32]: Um [0:36:32, 0:36:37]: B comprehensive plan amendment case number CP hyphen two oh two one oh one [0:36:38, 0:36:47]: So they've stopped. Excuse me, excuse me, wend it for one second. We're just gonna take the first item first for the rezoning and then we'll read the operations plan as a separate item afterwards. [0:36:48, 0:36:49]: Okay. [0:36:51, 0:36:53]: I have a uh PowerPoint presentation. [0:36:54, 0:36:55]: Um [0:36:56, 0:36:58]: Let me see if I can share this. [0:37:02, 0:37:03]: Okay. [0:37:06, 0:37:09]: Here we are. Everyone see can see this. [0:37:11, 0:37:12]: Oh, we can. [0:37:13, 0:37:13]: No? [0:37:14, 0:37:16]: Yes, I can. Okay, very good. [0:37:16, 0:37:17]: Very good. [0:37:17, 0:37:19]: This is a cover page here. Um [0:37:20, 0:37:21]: For this case. [0:37:23, 0:37:28]: All right, some basic facts. Uh some of these I've covered, applicant disease group properties. [0:37:28, 0:37:30]: They want to rezone from C three to M one. [0:37:31, 0:37:33]: Um seventy nine acres. [0:37:33, 0:37:38]: Um located on south side of st Davidson Parkway and west of Walter Way. [0:37:38, 0:37:42]: Um right now it's vacant land, fairly level and wooded. [0:37:42, 0:37:43]: Yeah, Reese Creek. [0:37:43, 0:37:46]: Uh, traversing the east side of the property. [0:37:46, 0:37:47]: And um [0:37:47, 0:37:50]: All three parcels is on C three. [0:37:50, 0:37:54]: The proposal is to build a business distribution center with five buildings. [0:37:55, 0:37:58]: With a uh close to seven hundred thousand square feet. [0:37:58, 0:38:00]: Of uh office and warehouse uses. [0:38:02, 0:38:06]: We looked at the zoning history of property. There were multiple rezonings happening. [0:38:06, 0:38:10]: This property was actually part of North Bridge Crossing development. [0:38:11, 0:38:11]: Um [0:38:12, 0:38:13]: Some years ago, which um [0:38:14, 0:38:14]: The [0:38:15, 0:38:18]: Adjacent single family residential is a part of that. [0:38:19, 0:38:24]: It had a DRI review that was development regional impact, basically a regional review by [0:38:24, 0:38:29]: regional reviewing agencies. There were some other rezoning cases, development agreement. [0:38:29, 0:38:33]: Uh two years ago there was a Reeves Creek DRI. Um [0:38:33, 0:38:34]: Part of them. [0:38:34, 0:38:36]: The property to the south of this. [0:38:37, 0:38:39]: Uh plus this property was included with [0:38:40, 0:38:43]: Um an a different project that was proposed. [0:38:43, 0:38:46]: And um known as Reeves Creek and [0:38:46, 0:38:48]: It recommended various [0:38:48, 0:38:51]: uh commercial uses on the property. [0:38:51, 0:38:53]: And then now of course we um [0:38:54, 0:38:54]: The [0:38:54, 0:38:58]: This project was large enough because it's over 500,000 square feet. [0:38:59, 0:39:00]: Um it it qualified. [0:39:01, 0:39:06]: for another regional review by Atlanta Regional Commission and Georgia Regional Transportation Authority. [0:39:06, 0:39:08]: I'll I'll discuss that later. [0:39:09, 0:39:13]: The future land use designation of the properties, low density ver vertical mixed use. [0:39:14, 0:39:17]: which does not allow the proposed M1 district. [0:39:17, 0:39:19]: needs to be changed to light industrial. [0:39:19, 0:39:21]: I'll be discussing that later with the [0:39:21, 0:39:25]: Other case, the comprehensive plan amendment CP two oh two one oh one. [0:39:26, 0:39:27]: The [0:39:27, 0:39:31]: project would be accessed by a small parcel off Davidson Parkway. [0:39:32, 0:39:33]: And um [0:39:33, 0:39:35]: Site traffic would come. [0:39:35, 0:39:38]: Off of the interstate семь five and six seventy five. [0:39:39, 0:39:39]: Um [0:39:40, 0:39:44]: And they would use Highway 138 from Clayton County and come to the site. [0:39:45, 0:39:48]: There would be a secondary emergency access onto Walter Way. [0:39:49, 0:39:54]: Uh two community meetings were held by the applicant on August eighteenth and September fifteenth. [0:39:54, 0:39:57]: And we posted signs on the property on September the second. [0:39:59, 0:40:03]: Uh some of this I've covered re already. This just shows a different kinds of [0:40:03, 0:40:04]: research that we did. [0:40:05, 0:40:07]: Here is a aerial photo of the [0:40:07, 0:40:11]: site what you're seeing here is really the large parcel. [0:40:11, 0:40:12]: And then I have [0:40:13, 0:40:13]: Um [0:40:15, 0:40:15]: No, they're [0:40:16, 0:40:17]: Map here. [0:40:17, 0:40:20]: Uh here he these are the interstates here. [0:40:20, 0:40:24]: And the the large parcel goes all the way around here. [0:40:24, 0:40:28]: Linda, I'd like to interject real fast for clarification. [0:40:29, 0:40:49]: Um there were three parcels that were part of this project initially, but after this report went to print, the applicant did note that um there was a smaller parcel, the 1.66 acres parcel, would be removed from this. And for the record, I just want to uh read it into um the minutes as [0:40:49, 0:40:51]: Parcel zero three zero. [0:40:51, 0:40:56]: Dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero six. [0:40:57, 0:41:00]: Um so you can proceed with your presentation. [0:41:00, 0:41:06]: Excuse me, uh actually it's this parcel on Walter Way, this one right here that has the three acres. [0:41:06, 0:41:07]: Because the smallest one this [0:41:08, 0:41:28]: The smallest one is the one that they're going to use for access for the main driveway into the property. Okay, because it was noted in the minutes at the beginning of the report that it was going to be the 1.66. So for clarification, then let me read that out again. The parcel number to be removed from this um property for this rezoning is zero. [0:41:27, 0:41:36]: And this is the property adjacent to Walter Way. [0:41:37, 0:41:38]: Yes. [0:41:39, 0:41:41]: You can move forward, Linda. Thank you. [0:41:41, 0:41:42]: Okay. [0:41:43, 0:41:47]: Uh we looked at surrounding land use and zoning. [0:41:47, 0:41:50]: I'm gonna flip back and forth from this table to [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: This map this is a zoning map. [0:41:52, 0:41:53]: Here's [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: The site here, C three in red. [0:41:56, 0:41:57]: And um [0:41:58, 0:42:01]: And we look surrounding land uses, location number one. [0:42:02, 0:42:03]: Which is up at the top here. [0:42:04, 0:42:08]: This property is very close to the the Clayton County line, which is at the top of the [0:42:09, 0:42:15]: Um of the map. So these are vacant parcels up here. And then number two, this is across the street on [0:42:15, 0:42:18]: Davidson Parkway, those are also vacant, but in the city. [0:42:19, 0:42:19]: Um [0:42:20, 0:42:22]: And three we have [0:42:22, 0:42:25]: We have an automobile refurbishing business. [0:42:25, 0:42:27]: Down here, this large blue square. [0:42:27, 0:42:30]: Uh, in the s to the south east of the site. [0:42:31, 0:42:40]: Um uh number four is uh Hen Henry County to the south. The the southern end of the site is actually the boundary between city and county. [0:42:41, 0:42:42]: And [0:42:42, 0:42:48]: Um North Bridge Crossing, single family residential, of course, is number five. This whole dark green area here. [0:42:49, 0:42:50]: And [0:42:50, 0:42:56]: And finding number six is the in interstates seventy-five and six seventy five. And this is right where the [0:42:57, 0:42:59]: Um if you're going north on [0:42:59, 0:43:07]: I 75 and then suddenly it branches off in a six seventy five and exits. Then that that's right where this is next adjacent to the site. [0:43:09, 0:43:11]: In our research, we looked at um [0:43:12, 0:43:14]: Another plan that was made for this area. [0:43:15, 0:43:20]: This was a LCI study, Livable Centers initiative was done by a consultant a few years ago. [0:43:20, 0:43:25]: It recommended it it identified the area or or recommended the area as being um [0:43:25, 0:43:28]: I seventy five activity center. [0:43:28, 0:43:29]: for major employment. [0:43:29, 0:43:33]: Some of the things in here, a recommended hotel and major commercial uses. [0:43:33, 0:43:34]: And um [0:43:35, 0:43:39]: This right down here is actually the site. I have an enlargement of that. [0:43:39, 0:43:41]: On the next slide here. [0:43:41, 0:43:44]: This is a site you're looking at with the interstates here. [0:43:44, 0:43:45]: So it's [0:43:45, 0:43:48]: Nice and color and then North Bridge Crossing residential in this area. [0:43:49, 0:43:52]: Here is the proposed site plan actually. [0:43:52, 0:43:57]: showing the five buildings in orange that are proposed. This Davidson Parkway. [0:43:57, 0:43:58]: Here to the left. [0:43:58, 0:43:59]: Walter Way. [0:44:00, 0:44:10]: is here and the residential uses are here. Free for orientation, the post office is just off to the left. Interstate's at the bottom. [0:44:10, 0:44:10]: і [0:44:11, 0:44:13]: Site would have only one. [0:44:13, 0:44:18]: Main driveway right here off Davidson Parkway and that would be through that small parcel. [0:44:19, 0:44:21]: There would be a secondary [0:44:21, 0:44:25]: Access here, but only for emergency vehicle vehicles. [0:44:25, 0:44:27]: We've had our um [0:44:27, 0:44:33]: uh fire marshal to look at this and um he has approved it the width the low and the location and everything. [0:44:33, 0:44:37]: And he's also looked at the driveway access and [0:44:37, 0:44:41]: Verified that it would be good as far as turning movements for [0:44:41, 0:44:43]: emergency ve vehicles. [0:44:43, 0:44:45]: Uh throughout the property. [0:44:45, 0:44:50]: Uh, there would be uh office uses primarily in the fronts of the building. [0:44:50, 0:44:52]: And uh warehouses to the rear. [0:44:53, 0:44:56]: And a lot of parking proposed, both employee parking. [0:44:57, 0:44:58]: And uh [0:44:58, 0:45:01]: What they call in trailer spaces, these would be for the large trucks. [0:45:02, 0:45:02]: Maybe about [0:45:03, 0:45:04]: Fifty three feet long. [0:45:04, 0:45:05]: Um provided. [0:45:06, 0:45:08]: Um adjacent some of these buildings. [0:45:09, 0:45:16]: Let's see. Oh, and there was a Reefs Creek is up uh uh here in the dark green Jason to the site. There would be [0:45:16, 0:45:17]: Plenty of buffering. [0:45:18, 0:45:19]: uh required um [0:45:19, 0:45:21]: Between the the [0:45:21, 0:45:24]: Development and the houses here. [0:45:24, 0:45:25]: Existing house. [0:45:26, 0:45:28]: Project impacts. Now they [0:45:28, 0:45:33]: The applicant did submit a had a traffic impact study done and it showed that [0:45:33, 0:45:37]: Uh nearby intersections would operate at levels E and F, which are [0:45:38, 0:45:38]: Um [0:45:38, 0:45:40]: Not good, they're forced flow. [0:45:40, 0:45:43]: Uh yet no traffic improvements were recommended. [0:45:43, 0:45:46]: Um they did did uh say that um [0:45:47, 0:45:51]: Um, you know, traffic would be utilizing the different highway one thirty-eight and [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Maybe some maybe [0:45:54, 0:45:58]: Oh highway one hundred thirty eight maybe should be uh widened and that's something to be looked at. [0:45:58, 0:46:01]: And so forth and maybe some traffic signal improvements. [0:46:01, 0:46:04]: Um in the DRI review we had Greta. [0:46:05, 0:46:06]: Um [0:46:06, 0:46:09]: conduct the review and they said this project [0:46:09, 0:46:12]: Is in the best interest of the state. This means that [0:46:13, 0:46:16]: Uh st spending of state and federal funds would be authorized. [0:46:17, 0:46:20]: provided that no material changes are made to the site plan. [0:46:20, 0:46:22]: And these are the conditions here. [0:46:22, 0:46:24]: Провайд сава сайдвакс алонг. [0:46:25, 0:46:27]: Developments frontage on Davidson Parkway. [0:46:27, 0:46:30]: Install a crosswalk at the main driveway entrance. [0:46:31, 0:46:32]: Install pedestrian [0:46:32, 0:46:33]: Infrastructure [0:46:33, 0:46:36]: Within the site, basically along the driveway inside of the site. [0:46:37, 0:46:40]: And install signage to restrict trucks. [0:46:40, 0:46:44]: On Davidson Parkway between Walter Way and North Henry Blue Arnolds. [0:46:44, 0:46:45]: We don't want them going. [0:46:46, 0:46:46]: Going [0:46:47, 0:46:48]: Turning east to go to [0:46:49, 0:46:52]: North Henry Boulevard that way, the city, uh [0:46:52, 0:46:53]: Uh [0:46:53, 0:46:56]: wants that, wants to restrict trucks in that area. [0:46:56, 0:46:59]: Uh Atlanta Regional Commission also reviewed this. Um [0:47:00, 0:47:04]: The proposal and said it would be compatible with several regional plans policies. [0:47:07, 0:47:12]: Uh we it we looked at different uh let's see, did I cover everything? [0:47:12, 0:47:13]: Yeah. [0:47:14, 0:47:14]: Okay. [0:47:15, 0:47:21]: Uh, I'm not gonna read all this, just gonna touch on a few things. These are different criteria that are listed in our staff report. [0:47:21, 0:47:22]: Um [0:47:22, 0:47:25]: That we're required to look at consistency with [0:47:25, 0:47:28]: comprehensive plan, it would not be as I mentioned. [0:47:28, 0:47:29]: Um [0:47:29, 0:47:30]: Uh [0:47:30, 0:47:34]: Whether the rezoning amendment is um you know compatible with the [0:47:34, 0:47:36]: The uh intent of uh the zoning code. [0:47:37, 0:47:39]: Listed a few things here would not promote [0:47:39, 0:47:43]: prosperity and general welfare of the j with the adjacent residential neighborhood. [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: Would add to traffic congestion. [0:47:46, 0:47:51]: Uh, it would have a lot of tractor trailer trucks, could present safety hazards to pedestrians. [0:47:52, 0:47:57]: Um it would cause significant concentration of population overcrowding on the property. [0:47:57, 0:48:00]: There'd be a huge influx of additional traffic in the neighborhood. [0:48:01, 0:48:05]: Now we're saying that the property is landlocked because there is no other access. [0:48:05, 0:48:09]: Uh to the south, no road going to the south, and then the interstates. [0:48:09, 0:48:12]: to the west. So trucks would be required. [0:48:12, 0:48:15]: to use Davidson Parkway and no nowhere else that they could go. [0:48:16, 0:48:16]: Um [0:48:17, 0:48:21]: In general, it's not desirable to have industrial uses next to residential uses. [0:48:21, 0:48:22]: And um [0:48:23, 0:48:27]: And the property could be developed as it's currently zoned with commercial uses. [0:48:27, 0:48:31]: As three studies recommended, these previous ones that that we studied. [0:48:32, 0:48:34]: All recommended different your hotels. [0:48:34, 0:48:35]: And um [0:48:35, 0:48:40]: um other uh retail, maybe convention center, things of that nature. [0:48:40, 0:48:41]: Um [0:48:42, 0:48:46]: So we don't we don't think um this would be uh good for good for the city. [0:48:47, 0:48:48]: Move to the next slide. [0:48:50, 0:48:53]: Okay, uh site is physically [0:48:53, 0:48:55]: Capable, we think um [0:48:55, 0:48:57]: Handling the development. [0:48:57, 0:48:58]: Um [0:48:59, 0:49:04]: You don't think again, don't think the trucks will be compatible adjacent uh land use uh residential. [0:49:05, 0:49:05]: Um [0:49:07, 0:49:08]: Now the [0:49:10, 0:49:11]: Although try uh [0:49:12, 0:49:13]: So we think that this [0:49:13, 0:49:16]: Again, the property could be developed is better used. [0:49:16, 0:49:18]: Under C three for commercial uses. [0:49:18, 0:49:22]: Uh, particularly because there'd be no truck track to trail or trucks. [0:49:22, 0:49:27]: There might be more traffic, but that would be better than having lots of trucks going through the neighborhood, we think. [0:49:28, 0:49:32]: Uh, if com major commercial uses were developed, those could possibly provide. [0:49:32, 0:49:34]: services to the general public. [0:49:34, 0:49:37]: Whereas the proposed industrial development [0:49:37, 0:49:41]: would mainly serve the internal needs of the businesses who would locate there. [0:49:42, 0:49:44]: And also, this is one of the few large [0:49:45, 0:49:47]: Undeveloped tracts of land left in the city. [0:49:48, 0:49:50]: scarcity of of s such tracts. [0:49:50, 0:49:52]: And it may be a unique opportunity. [0:49:52, 0:49:56]: to develop it into something special with the commercial uses for the public. [0:49:57, 0:49:59]: So therefore we in view of all these [0:49:59, 0:50:01]: Uh things we looked at would recommend denial. [0:50:02, 0:50:03]: Of this proposed rezoning. [0:50:04, 0:50:05]: From C three to M one. [0:50:06, 0:50:11]: Uh however, if the council decides to approve this, we've identified some zoning conditions. [0:50:11, 0:50:13]: These are all in a staff report. [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: Um [0:50:15, 0:50:18]: Again, the future land use designation would need to be changed. [0:50:18, 0:50:21]: Uh, the applicant does need to have um [0:50:21, 0:50:23]: Because they're now two parcels. [0:50:23, 0:50:27]: Would need to be combined into one parcel, and that would be a separate process. [0:50:27, 0:50:30]: City those allowed them to wait on that to see if [0:50:31, 0:50:34]: rezoning is approved and then would do the recombination later. [0:50:36, 0:50:36]: Um [0:50:36, 0:50:42]: transportation improvements would have to comply with what what the DRI uh recommendations were. [0:50:42, 0:50:44]: Or or conditions where rather [0:50:45, 0:50:47]: And then there's always a usual um [0:50:47, 0:50:48]: procedural manners of [0:50:49, 0:50:52]: zoning code specifies they've got eighteen months to [0:50:52, 0:50:54]: Have a major construction. [0:50:54, 0:50:57]: uh to keep the zoning so forth. [0:50:57, 0:51:01]: So again, our recommend is d m recommendation is denial. [0:51:01, 0:51:02]: Are there any questions? [0:51:05, 0:51:10]: Yes. Uh Linda, would you mind putting back up the site map, please? [0:51:10, 0:51:11]: Okay. [0:51:16, 0:51:17]: Here we are. [0:51:19, 0:51:20]: Okay. [0:51:22, 0:51:28]: Unless I'm interpreting this co uh incorrectly, and and please correct me if I am. [0:51:30, 0:51:31]: It appears to me. [0:51:32, 0:51:41]: That these buildings, these proposed buildings, would be fronting or facing the freeway. [0:51:42, 0:51:46]: And most of the warehousing activity. [0:51:47, 0:51:48]: With the trots, et cetera. [0:51:50, 0:51:55]: are gonna be on the opposite side, which will back up to [0:51:55, 0:51:56]: The residential. [0:51:57, 0:51:58]: Element [0:51:59, 0:52:01]: Oh plus [0:52:01, 0:52:04]: Uh a necessitated buff without you speak up. [0:52:05, 0:52:07]: Am I correct in in my interpretation? [0:52:08, 0:52:13]: Well, the office uses are supposed to be at at the front primarily. And then what you said at the beginning. [0:52:14, 0:52:22]: The trucking and warehousing would be to the rear, yes, adjacent to the the buildings from what I'm interpreting. [0:52:23, 0:52:25]: The rear of the buildings are [0:52:26, 0:52:31]: pointing toward the residential. The front of the buildings are facing the freeway. [0:52:32, 0:52:52]: Am I am I interpreting that incorrectly or I it's it's John Coleman Lynn? I'm I don't need to interrupt and tell me to stop if I need to, but that's correct for buildings 400 and 500. Uh building 200, the office area will be facing uh both towards the residential area and then the other building 100 will be facing towards the [0:52:52, 0:53:12]: Interstate and building 200 would be screened on the service areas. Where we do have 400 and 500, we've got the increased setbacks. The minimum is 100 feet, but for 500, it approaches 500 to 600 feet. And that green, dark green area will re remain undisturbed trees. [0:53:12, 0:53:13]: That are existing. [0:53:13, 0:53:15]: Sorry, then the helps clarify. [0:53:16, 0:53:25]: So uh if not all, then a large percentage of this development would be facing the freeway, but the warehousing activity [0:53:27, 0:53:28]: Faith in the residential. [0:53:30, 0:53:31]: Correct for two of the five buildings. [0:53:33, 0:53:33]: Okay. [0:53:34, 0:53:41]: Just wanted to point that out because I I I think the way it was presented was a little misleading. And I just wanted to bring some clarity to that. [0:53:42, 0:53:42]: Thank you. [0:53:43, 0:53:45]: Uh Mr. President, may I speak? [0:53:46, 0:53:47]: Yeah, well go ahead, Mr. Tivodle. [0:53:49, 0:53:53]: uh this is this is a s suggested uh we have a neighborhood [0:53:54, 0:53:55]: That [0:53:55, 0:54:01]: They're having commercial property. I mean commercial vehicles run through them from this other uh commercial. [0:54:02, 0:54:04]: Property that's already there. [0:54:05, 0:54:06]: Uh [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: Is it any way that we can have a uh [0:54:10, 0:54:14]: be able to stop the commercial property from going through the neighborhood. [0:54:15, 0:54:17]: And maybe come through this project. [0:54:17, 0:54:18]: That we're trying to uh [0:54:20, 0:54:21]: Look at right now. [0:54:22, 0:54:24]: Uh I just a question I'm putting out there. [0:54:24, 0:54:28]: Because I know the area and uh most people don't talk about it. [0:54:29, 0:54:30]: But they have [0:54:30, 0:54:33]: uh commercial vehicles going through a a a neighborhood. [0:54:37, 0:54:38]: Anybody aware of that? [0:54:38, 0:54:54]: I am aware of that, uh uh Mr. Thibodeau, and I concur with you if it's engineering possible and if it's can be coordinated with the the owners of the adjacent property. [0:54:54, 0:55:06]: It looks like to me on the plan that this road that's coming through is has a future designed to run into the property at in Henry County. [0:55:07, 0:55:10]: Неу і семс то мі. [0:55:10, 0:55:17]: If it's doable, I don't know if it is. I'm not an engineer, but I concur if we could make an access. [0:55:18, 0:55:22]: from the drive time property into this development. [0:55:22, 0:55:36]: connect the road there and shut off the entrance that's in the c in the subdivision. I don't know if that's engineering possible or illegally possible and Ms. Johnson could address that, but [0:55:36, 0:55:38]: I would be [0:55:40, 0:55:41]: Cattle. [0:55:42, 0:55:50]: Wanted to see that happen before I could get wholeheartedly on board with supporting this. Uh, and I do, I am aware that the the uh [0:55:51, 0:55:57]: Drive time was there before the subdivision was built. And I can't speak to how they allowed that to happen, you know. [0:55:57, 0:56:00]: Three, I believe, when the subdivision came online. [0:56:00, 0:56:01]: But [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: I I agree if you could direct the redirect that. [0:56:06, 0:56:09]: traffic from drive time through this development. [0:56:10, 0:56:12]: It might be a little easier to digest. [0:56:13, 0:56:18]: Uh I agree with you and and also I I know that they've done a traffic study. [0:56:18, 0:56:21]: But I hadn't heard anything from the citizen itself. [0:56:22, 0:56:27]: Have there been any interaction with the citizens as far as that area is concerned? [0:56:28, 0:56:39]: And I think the issue about trying to reroute the commercial property, I mean commercial vehicles away from their subdivision would be a a a great idea to consider. [0:56:39, 0:56:44]: I'm just putting it out there uh for a study what the city might want to consider that. [0:56:44, 0:56:48]: Or the the owners of of both properties might want to look at that. [0:56:49, 0:56:50]: As an option. [0:56:50, 0:56:53]: to relieving a neighborhood of its uh [0:56:54, 0:56:56]: commercial vehicles coming through their neighborhood. [0:56:56, 0:56:58]: This is suggest and only. [0:57:00, 0:57:06]: Mr. Mr. Thibodeau, Mr. Mr. Dumas, if I can before the the applicant jumps in. [0:57:07, 0:57:14]: I I do understand the the intent. I don't know that it it should be part of this particular um [0:57:15, 0:57:19]: uh rezoning because that would that would be a conversation between [0:57:19, 0:57:24]: the drive time owners and this property owner for this rezoning. [0:57:24, 0:57:29]: Um I know I think one of the some maybe some of the challenges might be is that that buffer. [0:57:29, 0:57:35]: kind of spans the full, you know, um north side or or on the side to the east side. [0:57:35, 0:57:45]: of the property um that may pose some challenges, uh, but I guess we'll, you know, talk with the applicant to see if it's something they're willing to look into. [0:57:45, 0:57:46]: as a contingency of uh [0:57:47, 0:57:49]: uh recommendation of approval from from this board. [0:57:50, 0:57:53]: Well here's the thing, uh even as a boy. [0:57:54, 0:58:00]: It is above it's it is our responsibility to look at options that may be available. [0:58:00, 0:58:06]: to create some form of relief that we may recognize when it comes to commercial development versus [0:58:07, 0:58:07]: A community. [0:58:08, 0:58:12]: And it would be wrong of me not to put that out there. [0:58:12, 0:58:16]: And knowing that knowing the area and what's really going on. [0:58:16, 0:58:19]: We should also talk about issues. [0:58:20, 0:58:21]: that impact [0:58:21, 0:58:23]: The community as a whole. [0:58:24, 0:58:26]: And and I understand the commercial [0:58:26, 0:58:30]: properties and what they're trying to do. But if there's an opportunity. [0:58:31, 0:58:32]: To create some relief. [0:58:33, 0:58:38]: For a subdivision in any form or fashion, I I think that should be put out there. [0:58:38, 0:58:40]: To a certain degree. [0:58:40, 0:58:44]: One thing I may not have mentioned is that there was supposed to be a stub. [0:58:45, 0:58:47]: A a road stub. [0:58:47, 0:58:50]: included at the south end of this site which could [0:58:51, 0:58:54]: then be extended in a future to the south. [0:58:55, 0:59:02]: into Henry County and maybe if that extension is done, then there could be a a connection to the east to the drivetown property. [0:59:03, 0:59:05]: That wouldn't work because [0:59:07, 0:59:11]: If you extend the road to the south, you're bypassing the drivetime property. [0:59:13, 0:59:16]: The road needs to some at some point turn east. [0:59:17, 0:59:22]: If you're going to create the kind of relief that that Mr. Tibdo is talking about, at some point. [0:59:24, 0:59:26]: near building five hundred. [0:59:27, 0:59:28]: That parking lot [0:59:28, 0:59:33]: That bit that that road would have to turn and go east to connect with the drivetown property. [0:59:34, 0:59:36]: Taking it further south doesn't do any good. [0:59:44, 0:59:50]: Well my applicants to this I'm sorry, I'm sorry, let me let me let me ask a full question. [0:59:50, 0:59:59]: What has the um subdivision said about this project? Because I went over there and I looked at it. My major concern was that it was really I felt like it was really impacting. [1:00:00, 1:00:01]: Uh the subdivision. [1:00:01, 1:00:06]: And there's no way to control or confirm that this traffic would not pass through that subdivision. [1:00:06, 1:00:10]: I mean, it could be backed up on thirty and they're looking for an alternative. [1:00:10, 1:00:16]: They would definitely go through that neighborhood and that would have a tremendous impact on the infrastructure and the neighborhood itself. [1:00:20, 1:00:28]: Uh that's correct, Chairman. There were two uh public meetings that community meetings that the applicant setup [1:00:31, 1:00:33]: What was the response from the community? [1:00:34, 1:00:35]: Yeah, it's um called. [1:00:35, 1:00:45]: um having was actually was partially, you know, they they had those same concerns about traffic, same concerns about um, you know, the the impact of trucks on the road. [1:00:46, 1:00:48]: you know, in addition to the trucks that are on the road now. [1:00:49, 1:00:57]: That was the the primary concern. And the applicant can can speak to that as far as some other challenges or things that he was hearing from the public. [1:00:57, 1:01:06]: So, you know, those meetings did take place, but you know, those concerns were similar across the board from the residential community. [1:01:07, 1:01:17]: Madam Director, may I ask a question? Would there be an opportunity tonight for any public comment on these two cases? [1:01:18, 1:01:27]: Absolutely. We're actually required by Roberts Rules of Order and the zoning ordinance to allow for folks who want to speak in um [1:01:27, 1:01:31]: favor of the request ten minutes total. [1:01:31, 1:01:41]: And then 10 minutes total uh for those who want to speak um against. That's what I thought, but I didn't see a public comment item on the agenda, so that's why I raised the question. [1:01:42, 1:01:51]: Yes, sir. This is this is considered a public hearing. You're you're absolutely correct. Thank you. Will that happen at the between uh at the HK? Yes. [1:01:52, 1:01:57]: Typically, um, because there's discussion now, um, the applicant has the opportunity to add [1:01:57, 1:02:03]: Tim to talk for 10 minutes as well to you know make sure that you all answer any questions. [1:02:03, 1:02:10]: uh make any statements um before we go into the public hearing process. Thank you. [1:02:10, 1:02:11]: Absolutely. [1:02:12, 1:02:14]: Any other questions on this matter? [1:02:17, 1:02:25]: Then uh can we hear from the applicant? Uh he's heard uh our comments and uh our interests and concerns, and maybe he can address those. [1:02:27, 1:02:36]: Thank you. Um, my name is John Coleman with East Group Properties. We're the applicant. Michelle Battle is also, uh, I think on the line. Michelle, are you available to to to [1:02:37, 1:02:39]: To start the discussion, or you want me to jump in? [1:02:43, 1:03:03]: Okay, she may have a conflict. So let me jump in. Uh, thank you for your time tonight. Um, appreciate the opportunity. Also, want to thank the Stockbridge staff for their efforts during the entire process. Give you a little bit of a uh background on who we are, East Group Properties. We've been in business for 50 years. Our properties are located in the Sunbelt states from Atlanta to Southern California. [1:03:03, 1:03:23]: California or publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange. What really sets us apart is we're a long-term owner. We don't sell the properties we develop. So we're not going to come in here, build some buildings, lease them up, and then look for a quick sale. Because of that, we we put more detail into the buildings, the landscaping, the signage, and we really are more of a developer. [1:03:23, 1:03:25]: Grow a quality business park. [1:03:25, 1:03:45]: Let me tell you what we're not. We're not uh we don't build large industrial facilities. We're not drive time. We are what we call business distribution. Our buildings are smaller, as you can see from the site plan, and we cater the local businesses in the local area. We will build these as specs. We really can't tell you right now what companies will move into those. [1:03:45, 1:04:05]: Buildings, but with 50 million square feet in our portfolio, we will pull from those uh different companies and really try to locate quality companies in these buildings. Um, average tenants range from 30 to 50,000 square feet. So again, we're not doing these big mega facilities. Uh each space typically has uh [1:04:05, 1:04:12]: office and showrooms, that office and showroom component will range from 10% of the overall space to 80%. [1:04:12, 1:04:32]: Uh each building will have uh two to three uh different uh companies, most likely. Uh because of the higher office space, we talked a lot about traffic already. We have more cars that come into our facilities than trucks. Actually, the traffic report that was completed for the DRI showed that there are twice as many cars that enter and exit our properties. [1:04:32, 1:04:48]: for the office area uh than for every one truck. So this is not a truck terminal. These are businesses that have more cars than trucks. The trucks can be FedEx or UPS delivery, box type trucks, and there will be larger trucks also. [1:04:49, 1:04:54]: Give you some examples of some of the tenants we're currently seeing. And that demand has shifted a little bit. [1:04:55, 1:05:15]: Right now we're we're we're seeing a lot of demand from biomed and pharmaceutical fulfillment companies. Um other properties we own have Aetna, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Davida, and those attract very high-paying jobs and have much more office associated with them. We're also seeing increase in retail and e-commerce fulfillment. [1:05:15, 1:05:20]: Fulfillment. They have curbside pickup. Examples in our portfolio include Best Buy. [1:05:21, 1:05:24]: Peloton Wayfair Nike. [1:05:24, 1:05:44]: And then on the entertainment sign, we're seeing more demand for movie studios, uh, a big demand for that in Atlanta. These are perfect spaces with high clear height to create those studios internal. Um, in Florida, in Orlando, we have Universal Studios uh in one of our buildings, and then in Tampa, Norwegian cruise lines, same type of entertainment type. [1:05:44, 1:05:45]: type uses. [1:05:46, 1:06:02]: Um, and then for clarification on the staff report, our businesses mainly have normal business hours of operation, uh, usually working um you know from those normal hours. Yeah, again, they're specs, so I can't say for sure, but there's not a lot of around the clock type of uses that we have. [1:06:03, 1:06:23]: And I really want to focus on the local job creation for the residents of Stockbridge. We identified about two to three thousand new jobs that would be created. That would include new construction, that would be about 30 to 40 percent of that. And we'd like to partner with the city and the staff, local EDC, to really push the city employment with the [1:06:22, 1:06:42]: These new customers. Um, real quick on this um on the site plan, you'll notice all the green area. This site has 52% of it is green, uh open space, landscaped, and buffer. Uh, the trees in the dark green area will not be removed along the stream. So all that buffer that exists between the homes and these homes and these buildings will be. [1:06:42, 1:06:54]: um will be used as a screening buffer and if and if there's gaps in that we will landscape additional trees in there to block those gaps. That'll provide visual and also audio insulation. [1:06:54, 1:07:01]: Uh the access row we talked about will be extended south. I'll talk about the uh the the connection to drivetime here in a second. [1:07:01, 1:07:08]: And then the nature trail in black will run along the stream. We will also donate a one acre park to the city. [1:07:09, 1:07:29]: Did want to touch on the um the current zoning. Um, the traffic that would be generated by the current zoning and the traffic plan that's been uh or the site plan that we saw at the beginning of the presentation, it'll have six times the number of vehicles that our project is uh anticipated to generate, six times. Right. [1:07:29, 1:07:49]: Right now, on a daily uh trip basis, we will generate 1,144 vehicles compared to 7,500 vehicles. I know that's commercial, but it's a heavy commercial use. Um, and we are one of the lowest traffic generators compared to apartments, office, retail, gas stations, all those uses. [1:07:49, 1:07:50]: allowed in the current zoning. [1:07:51, 1:08:06]: Um traffic leaving our project will mainly turn left on Davidson to get to I-75 and 675. That's that's why we like the site so much. As you look at the access back to the interstate, most of these vehicles will all be leaving, going back to the interstate and not through the community. [1:08:07, 1:08:27]: Um, we are not drive time. And if successful, uh I will uh I will approach them about uh a possible sale of that site. We understand the the concern there. Um we would look at buying that facility and then redeveloping it and then looking at the the traffic, which will most likely go south to the future um south. [1:08:27, 1:08:30]: into Henry County for the future access to the south. [1:08:30, 1:08:30]: Um [1:08:32, 1:08:50]: Also want to clarify we do not have any buildings fronting Walter Way, only the magic, the um the access uh for emergency vehicles. Uh land acquisition, we've been working on the site for 18 months. Uh we've included uh the DRI and the Greta approval for the site, including the traffic generation. [1:08:50, 1:09:03]: Uh the current zoning is of C3 is heavy commercial. A lot of that traffic will be generated outside the normal business hours that would be in the nighttime and further impacting the residents. [1:09:03, 1:09:04]: Um [1:09:05, 1:09:25]: One thing I really wanted to touch on the previous uh DRIs for Reeves Creek and Northbridge, they were both commercial DRIs and for commercial use. I'm sure they aggressively marketed those sites to try to put those developments into production, but neither one was able to really attract those uses because of there's just really no demand. [1:09:25, 1:09:32]: demand for that right now. And then in the current business cycle, it's actually shifted even more. People are working from home. [1:09:32, 1:09:52]: They're not going to offices with e-commerce shopping online instead of going to retail stores for this economy. It's now even less likely to support new office and commercial uses than it was when those other two DRIs failed to produce. Um, it didn't work in the past, and I think it's more, it's just unlikely it will work now. And for what it's worth, [1:09:52, 1:09:53]: Yes. Um [1:09:53, 1:10:13]: You know, other cities have embraced our product type, um uh our developments, our our long-term ownership, and it's been a great partnership. Um, you know, we've we've been embraced and they actually have have come to us to see if we could locate in those cities. Um we're long-term owner and and they like the the focus on on greater job creation. [1:10:13, 1:10:18]: which will help serve the overall residential community in Stockbridge. [1:10:20, 1:10:21]: Oh yeah, yeah. [1:10:21, 1:10:25]: I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I thought no, I thought you were finished. Go ahead. [1:10:25, 1:10:30]: I was just gonna ask if Michelle was on the line, if she had any more to to to address, but I I'm not sure she's here. [1:10:31, 1:10:36]: You know that that that that option for drive time, my primary uh concern is a traffic through the community. [1:10:37, 1:10:38]: And wow. [1:10:38, 1:10:42]: We can say that uh trucks won't transfer uh traverse that area. [1:10:43, 1:10:46]: In reality, if they have an opportunity or some convenience for them, they would. [1:10:47, 1:10:50]: Uh so uh if if if you could [1:10:51, 1:10:52]: Connect with drivet. [1:10:53, 1:10:55]: uh to ensure that that wouldn't occur. [1:10:56, 1:10:58]: You know, w that would be less likely to occur. [1:10:59, 1:11:00]: Oh [1:11:01, 1:11:02]: deal would probably fly. [1:11:03, 1:11:03]: You know. [1:11:03, 1:11:05]: But uh as it stands right now. [1:11:06, 1:11:07]: Uh [1:11:07, 1:11:13]: focuses on the community, the residents, then impact that the uh trucks would have on the infrastructure in the community. [1:11:14, 1:11:21]: So I I mean I don't really know how you address it other than to acquire that and make a direct access to the uh expressway. [1:11:22, 1:11:22]: Uh [1:11:23, 1:11:24]: That would be it. [1:11:25, 1:11:29]: Uh the uh job component of it is is most certainly attractive to uh [1:11:30, 1:11:32]: Ви атлектати Хенри тут. [1:11:33, 1:11:34]: Uh [1:11:34, 1:11:36]: Called employment is always uh [1:11:38, 1:11:41]: uh favorable aspect of any development. [1:11:41, 1:11:45]: But you also have a community there that we had to be concerned about. [1:11:47, 1:11:50]: And I think Mr. Thibodeau and Mr. U [1:11:50, 1:11:52]: Doom is articulated that well. [1:11:55, 1:12:15]: Yes, I I didn't mention we did look at the challenge with the direct connection is one, we were more focused on the impact of our development on the community and the adjacent roads, not so much uh drive times, and that was a pre-existing condition. We did look at the the transition um and the the topo, you see the creek, uh that's a protection. [1:12:14, 1:12:31]: protected area and the the stream crossing in the topo makes that connection almost impossible uh in a three-dimensional perspective. We did look at it. Those are protected areas. A stream cannot be impacted more than a certain area without having major impact. [1:12:32, 1:12:41]: Uh yeah, what w what we what we expect would happen with that connection to the south is that Henry County appears to have some transportation um [1:12:42, 1:12:47]: um plans to go further south to an east-west connector. Wesley, I I don't remember that name. [1:12:47, 1:12:56]: But what we expect is if there's a connection to that, to our driveway, then that would be a connection that drivetime could could connect to in the future. [1:12:58, 1:13:00]: Mr. Coleman, um [1:13:01, 1:13:08]: You have this property under contract with GDC or GD, I may not be saying that right, the current owner. [1:13:08, 1:13:12]: Yes, sir. And that contract is contingent on this being approved? [1:13:13, 1:13:14]: Yes, sir. [1:13:15, 1:13:16]: Thank you. [1:13:18, 1:13:38]: John, I just wanted to, there's one thing I wanted to add. Um, in the in the staff report, it did mention the the level of service E and F on the intersections in the area. Those are existing conditions. We're they they are level of service ENF currently, and our traffic study shows that we're not making that condition. [1:13:37, 1:13:47]: condition worse. And that was when when Greta, the regional authority, looks at at a you know an a traffic issue. [1:13:47, 1:14:02]: it it's not created by our development. And so they can't say you have to widen 75. That's not a that's not a reasonable uh consideration for you know for a developer to undertake. [1:14:02, 1:14:09]: Um so that that was looked at. Um also the infrastructure uh part of the uh [1:14:09, 1:14:18]: In the beginning of this year, the DRI process was was slightly tweaked to include analysis of the [1:14:19, 1:14:34]: uh the pavement between the development and uh you know the the interstate and the the the turning movements between the development and the interstate and so those were those are things that were considered and reviewed during the DRI so I just wanted to note that um [1:14:40, 1:14:41]: Mr. President, may I speak? [1:14:42, 1:14:43]: So [1:14:44, 1:14:45]: Uh as a [1:14:45, 1:14:49]: Planning zoning board, we we have a responsibility. [1:14:50, 1:14:56]: to look at look at things that may have issues or problems concerning zoning. [1:14:57, 1:15:02]: And the only one that I'm looking at still is it's looking at some form of [1:15:02, 1:15:03]: Relief. [1:15:04, 1:15:05]: Was subdivision. [1:15:06, 1:15:07]: If there's a possibility [1:15:08, 1:15:08]: Oh. [1:15:08, 1:15:10]: taking in the commercial traffic. [1:15:10, 1:15:13]: from out of the middle their their subdivision. [1:15:14, 1:15:14]: And uh [1:15:15, 1:15:19]: If there's any way possible to do that, I I think we should at least [1:15:20, 1:15:21]: Uh [1:15:21, 1:15:23]: put something in effect to look at that. [1:15:24, 1:15:25]: What is [1:15:25, 1:15:26]: Now or later. [1:15:27, 1:15:31]: to to possibly have something done because I think it's unfair for us [1:15:32, 1:15:33]: So just not. [1:15:34, 1:15:36]: Avoid it, just avoid it and not really. [1:15:37, 1:15:39]: Considered fact that we have an opportunity. [1:15:41, 1:15:42]: to change something around that. [1:15:43, 1:15:45]: shouldn't have been done for the first place. [1:15:53, 1:15:55]: Permission to speak, Mr. Chair. [1:15:55, 1:15:56]: No. [1:15:56, 1:16:11]: Uh I I was curious. I know we're not sure of what businesses will come into the area. Are there any restrictions on businesses? I know there's a daycare near there, um, you know, children, that kind of thing. So is there any kind of restrictions on [1:16:12, 1:16:16]: What businesses can't or can anyone rent those those spaces? [1:16:18, 1:16:19]: Mr. Coleman, can you respond to that? [1:16:20, 1:16:40]: Certainly. Um there are restrictions on on manufacturing and any kind of um chemical discharge. Um so that's limited. Uh and and we'd be glad to to work with staff on other restrictions and and conditions of approval. What might be helpful, uh Danny, if you're on the call, I th we had a separate [1:16:40, 1:16:46]: presentation that we were going to show you just with some images of some of the buildings. Also had a list of some of the other tenants that we have. [1:16:47, 1:17:07]: give you an an idea of what what we typically see and and and who we would talk to about bringing into this community. Is it possible to to share that presentation? I can flip through it quickly. Hi Linda, yeah I sent that over to you. Uh you said you got it earlier today. If you'd uh please show that or otherwise [1:17:07, 1:17:10]: If you would allow me to share my screen, I could I could put that up as well. [1:17:10, 1:17:12]: Oh okay. So I'll stop sharing then. [1:17:13, 1:17:16]: Oh, okay. Well let me get that ready real quick. [1:17:22, 1:17:25]: Oops. This is Dave Planchon, if I could say a couple things. [1:17:28, 1:17:29]: Sure. Go ahead, Mr. Flash. [1:17:30, 1:17:34]: Um my first question is this is looks to me like it's all warehouse based. [1:17:35, 1:17:38]: By the number of bays they have for trucks, tractor, trailers. [1:17:39, 1:17:42]: Uh my question is we saw a frontage of what the bill [1:17:43, 1:17:47]: Soft images of what the front edge of the building is going to look like. [1:17:47, 1:17:51]: How many truck bays are going to be built behind each building? [1:17:52, 1:17:53]: Any idea with that? [1:17:53, 1:17:54]: perspective yet. [1:17:56, 1:18:16]: Um as a long-term owner, we really look for just maximum flexibility on the site plan. Even those trailer storage areas, they could be car parks. I'm going to show you a picture here in our presentation of a pharmacy that has a fulfillment center that we converted all that area into car parking. Um and that's just for again for flexibility or it could [1:18:16, 1:18:19]: It'd be someone like Wayfair that has [1:18:20, 1:18:25]: Sprinter bands for deliveries, for home deliveries, for for e-commerce. Um [1:18:25, 1:18:30]: It's just flexibility and it could be I mean it could be trucks, but I I'll have [1:18:30, 1:18:34]: I'll I'll get you um a dimension. I it's about [1:18:34, 1:18:35]: About three. [1:18:36, 1:18:46]: Two to three doors for every sixty feet. So I'll have to uh do the math and get back to you on that. So it's gonna be this it's gonna be standard then truck space. That's correct. [1:18:47, 1:18:48]: Yes. Okay. Um [1:18:49, 1:18:50]: M and [1:18:51, 1:19:11]: Parking for the trailers, my I have a problem with your previous presentation where you said about 400 truck trips per day in and out of the development will occur. Um, have you driven down Davison Parkway and just imagine 400 tractor trailers going down that little skinny road? [1:19:11, 1:19:12]: Each and every day. [1:19:13, 1:19:22]: And you mentioned previously that most of the bit of the businesses would be open normal business hours, but then you went on to say that most of the truck business. [1:19:22, 1:19:28]: or truck traffic will be occurring after hours. So I'm kind of confused on that. [1:19:30, 1:19:44]: But right now, Davison Road is not structurally strong enough. Um, either is the intersection, uh your Dairy Queen ice cream is gonna melt before you get to the line to pick it up with the traffic that's gonna create at that stoplight. [1:19:45, 1:19:50]: And there are no other traffic control devices on Davison Parkway between this. [1:19:52, 1:20:03]: development and 138. And there are a number of businesses in there that this is just going to back traffic up terrifically while they're waiting for the stoplight on 138 to change. [1:20:06, 1:20:15]: Yeah, the the number seems high to me. Also, we have other parks in and other cities in the southeast that have a a a one way in with a tr a signal. [1:20:15, 1:20:18]: Uh and they work fine. Um the truck drivers [1:20:18, 1:20:33]: prefer not to be even on the sprinter vans, not to be doing it at peak hours because of of the traffic. That's when we see more cars coming in and out of the park at the peak hours in the morning and the evening than than than trucks. [1:20:33, 1:20:35]: It's worked before um [1:20:36, 1:20:51]: I've got this picture up in Charlotte right now that I'm showing you one way in, one way out. And it's uh just south of the airport. And it's um um it's it's hasn't been has not been an issue. I've I've um [1:20:53, 1:20:57]: My concern with the subdivision up there. [1:20:58, 1:20:58]: Is [1:20:59, 1:21:03]: The approximate thousand cars that come in and out of there every day. [1:21:03, 1:21:05]: Commingling with [1:21:05, 1:21:10]: Not only employee traffic, I think employee traffic here will be minimum. [1:21:10, 1:21:12]: Um, I'm a warehouse manager, so I know [1:21:13, 1:21:14]: How that works. [1:21:14, 1:21:15]: Um [1:21:15, 1:21:16]: But is it truck traffic? [1:21:17, 1:21:21]: Trucks and trucks get along pretty well, but trucks and residential traffic [1:21:21, 1:21:23]: Do not get along and [1:21:23, 1:21:29]: That is really the primary exit there from that subdivision out to 138. [1:21:30, 1:21:31]: And to the interstate. [1:21:33, 1:21:47]: I guess on the flip side, what we like about the use and even our traffic counts is is so it's 1,100 vehicles compared to 7,500 vehicles if this was developed as commercial. So um [1:21:48, 1:21:58]: Ours is a much lower, it's it's it's six times less than that current site plan shows. Yep, I guarante I guarantee more traffic than if it was full blown commercial. That is correct. [1:22:00, 1:22:02]: But it's also a lot more truck traffic. [1:22:05, 1:22:05]: Correct. [1:22:08, 1:22:23]: The the neighborhood does have there there are two ways back out that don't go Davidson Parkway. So the trucks will not allow be allowed to use Walter Way. That that's the primary way that the residents would get access to 138. [1:22:25, 1:22:29]: Mr. Chairman And you know how bad that stoplight is too, right? [1:22:30, 1:22:31]: Miss Miss Johnson. [1:22:31, 1:22:42]: Mr. Plench and um Mr. Chairman, I want to just interject. The applicant has exceeded their 10 minutes of time. If you would like to extend their time, you can do that per a vote. [1:22:43, 1:22:54]: um to allow them additional time with five minutes or 10 minutes to wrap up their presentation before we open it up for the public hearing. So I just want to make that note before they move forward. [1:22:54, 1:22:57]: Mr. uh Mr. Coleman, do you have anything else to add? [1:22:58, 1:23:08]: Uh I would appreciate two more minutes. I just want to flip through the slides real quick, uh, help address your question on the type of tenants and then give you a sense of the architecture. So two minutes would be helpful. [1:23:09, 1:23:11]: Go ahead, Mr. Coleman. [1:23:11, 1:23:20]: Thank you. Um this is a slide show excuse me, John, Mr. Chairman. We just have to have a vote from the from the commission to allow the additional two minutes. [1:23:21, 1:23:35]: Okay. The applicant has requested additional two minutes. He C is 10 minute time to further explain or display some additional slides. Have a motion to approve that. [1:23:35, 1:23:40]: Mr. Chairman, I move that we grant him the addition of two minutes. A second. [1:23:41, 1:23:45]: been moved and second, the applicant is granted the additional two minutes. [1:23:45, 1:23:47]: We we hadn't voted, sir. [1:23:47, 1:23:48]: And loaded. [1:23:49, 1:23:51]: All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of vibe. [1:23:51, 1:23:55]: Aye. Those opposed? The ayes have it. The motion is carried. [1:23:57, 1:23:58]: Go ahead, Mr. Coleman. [1:23:58, 1:24:18]: Thank you. And Danny, we'll just flip through these. This first slide just gives you an example. If there was a question about the type of customers' tenants, so here you can see on the retail side, we have Tesla, Best Buy, Coca-Cola, Wayfair, pharmaceutical companies below there, Walgreens, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, you know, food service and technical. We've had some call centers. [1:24:18, 1:24:26]: Centers here, but also some uh data centers that have very low traffic volume that just use this the space for wires in and out. Uh next slide, please. [1:24:30, 1:24:34]: I talked a little bit about who we are already. You know, uh, we can move on to that, on to the next slide. [1:24:37, 1:24:44]: Thank you. Uh more examples of of customers, uh some some trade shows related to the convention center. Um [1:24:44, 1:25:01]: good good space for that. I talked about entertainment, universal, oceaneering, Norwegian, um home builders. So some of them like to have showrooms in these spaces where they can have their cabinets. And if you're buying building a new home, your the customers for those homes will come and pick out their finishes. Next slide, please. [1:25:02, 1:25:04]: Um, let's keep going, please. [1:25:05, 1:25:13]: And just want to show you, this is our footprint uh in the southeast, the Sunbelt uh cities I mentioned. Uh our corporate office is located in Jackson, Mississippi. [1:25:13, 1:25:15]: Uh next slide, please. [1:25:15, 1:25:35]: And these are just some examples of buildings that have the same look. You mentioned the front. We like to brag on the front where the well is you'll see multiple entries because we have multiple uh tenants in a lot of these buildings. Again, long-term flexibility. This is in Miami. Uh next slide, please. Uh Orlando, uh again, very focused on the architecture over uh code. [1:25:35, 1:25:45]: minimum uh landscaping. This would be the view of the buildings from the interstate. So I think a nice gateway into the city of Stockbridge. Next slide, please. [1:25:45, 1:25:48]: Uh same park at night, the focus on nighttime lighting also. [1:25:49, 1:26:00]: Uh next slide. Uh another park. This park is uh 15 years old. So again, as a long-term owner, we try to put a lot of architecture and pizzazz in the buildings that will survive the tests of time. [1:26:00, 1:26:01]: Uh next slide, please. [1:26:02, 1:26:08]: Uh the park we already looked at in Charlotte, uh very similar proximity to residential area has been very well received. [1:26:09, 1:26:14]: Uh next slide, please. Uh building that we did up I think two minutes is is is expired. [1:26:14, 1:26:16]: Okay. Thank you. [1:26:20, 1:26:24]: And we have a vote on have um a motion on the vote of this application. [1:26:26, 1:26:35]: Mr. Chairman, my apologies. Um, we would need to um close discussion with the applicant and open it open up the public hearing at this time. [1:26:35, 1:26:40]: For ten minutes for those who want to speak in favor and then ten minutes for those who would like to speak in opposition. [1:26:41, 1:26:42]: Okay. [1:26:43, 1:26:45]: We open up to public comment. [1:26:48, 1:26:49]: On the uh [1:26:49, 1:26:50]: Project. [1:26:53, 1:27:01]: If you would like to raise your hand, we do have IT on the call to acknowledge you, or if you can put your question in the chat, we can address it that way. [1:27:10, 1:27:12]: We haven't one online for public public comment. [1:27:16, 1:27:20]: I do not see, oh I do see a question in the uh chat. [1:27:20, 1:27:23]: From Miss Denita Minnes. [1:27:24, 1:27:27]: And her question is, how long will it take to finish? [1:27:28, 1:27:30]: Guessing is as far as the project is concerned. [1:27:35, 1:27:55]: Would you like me to answer? Yeah. Okay. Um, thank you. Um yes, we will move immediately since these are all spec buildings. We'll move immediately into construction. We'll start with the first two buildings. Uh just how quick we can get these permitted um and and under construction. I think we do have to go through a platting process, a consolidation plat, uh, which we're we're fine with. [1:27:55, 1:28:03]: With uh so we will move um, we will start with the first two buildings and just work down the I'm guessing three to five years at the longest. [1:28:05, 1:28:06]: Okay. [1:28:07, 1:28:13]: Okay, um I have another question uh from I have a raised hand actually from Mr. Evan Atkinson. [1:28:14, 1:28:16]: Yes, can you all hear me? [1:28:16, 1:28:17]: Yes, that we can. [1:28:17, 1:28:37]: Uh yeah, I'm just speaking as a as a resident of North Bridge Crossing. Um I just had a few concerns that I wanted to to note um owning a home in the neighborhood for the last um two years. Um I know from my standpoint I'm concerned about the um the emergency exit um of this facility being so close to our HOA amenities. Um we have a lot of children. [1:28:37, 1:28:57]: In the neighborhood. Um, and of course, they're the main members that use the um the pool and the park and the basketball court. And I do see that an emergency exit on I believe Walter Way is is is pretty close to that. And as y'all mentioned, the um the drivetime trucks already go through the neighborhood, and we do have a lot of children that like to ride their bikes and and use these things. [1:28:57, 1:28:59]: Um [1:28:59, 1:29:19]: Also additionally, definitely have um some current uh concerns about um the company truck drivers um that we of course do we don't know the tenants that are going to be um occupying these spaces. So I do think it's it's hard to determine if they will actually adhere to the rules that Mr. Coleman says. Um I would do [1:29:19, 1:29:39]: Have concerns that they would try to use the emergency exit or different exits because of course there won't be like policing of those kind of um entrances and exits um in reality. Um so I would be have concerned about using that if that's a faster way in. Um and I know people have already uh mentioned about um Davidson traffic. I know for [1:29:39, 1:29:55]: For for me and my wife, you know, part of the reason why we also moved to this neighborhood was the access to 675 and 75. And of course, that would be another burden on the homeowners and tenants of this neighborhood because we also want, you know, want to make left down Davidson. [1:29:55, 1:30:05]: um as well. And I know that that is where the majority of the uh the traffic would go. And I know with some of the trucks there already is some backup at that light when we start getting to one thirty eight. [1:30:05, 1:30:25]: Um and I uh the last point that I would like to make is that um definitely agreed that if this was used for a commercial space, um that there probably would be more additional traffic, but I at least could see it as being more beneficial for folks that do live in the neighborhood to be able to use certain businesses or um what was used in place if it's a hotel or coffee shop or however it was used. [1:30:25, 1:30:29]: Um but that's it. [1:30:30, 1:30:31]: a homeowner in this community. [1:30:34, 1:30:38]: D can we respond to the just the questions now or do we need to wait? [1:30:39, 1:30:59]: You can respond now. Just one thing on the emergency access. I wanted to to that that will be gated with um what they call a knox box, which allows fire department access only. So that will be restricted where really it could only be accessed by by emergency personnel, by the fire or police and in [1:30:59, 1:31:01]: in case there was an emergency. [1:31:04, 1:31:05]: No. [1:31:06, 1:31:07]: Any other comments? [1:31:08, 1:31:26]: Yeah, so we have another one from um Miss again, Miss Denita Minnes. The question is, are you aware of the homeless situation in that area? There have been tents set up in the wooded areas recently. I'm Danita Millis, the HOA president for the board of directors for North Bridge Crossing community. [1:31:30, 1:31:32]: John, do you want to handle that or or? [1:31:32, 1:31:52]: Um sure. Uh John Coleman. Um we had we I had not been aware of it, but we heard it's one of the community calls that we had, one of the two prior community meetings. I obviously that would be a big concern with ours. Uh we have that on a property down in Orlando. Um two things. One, the the development of the site itself tends to solve that problem. [1:31:52, 1:31:56]: because it's cleared and that that area is no longer [1:31:57, 1:32:08]: as as concealed. Um and then as the long term owner, we will be very proactive. I'm officed in Atlanta, our property management team's office in Atlanta on on on [1:32:08, 1:32:21]: policing that area and and and and making sure especially that buffer area it's a pretty big buffer area we would work with the the adjacent uh association property owners association work together to make sure that that would be [1:32:22, 1:32:23]: Be resolved. [1:32:29, 1:32:39]: Those are all the questions we have in the Q<unk>A box and I don't see any other raised hands. Uh we would just need for folks, I think those are folks that spoke. [1:32:39, 1:32:48]: Kind of half and half and mostly questions. Um, but I guess we can close the public hearing for folks in favor and then open it up for those who are in opposition. [1:32:49, 1:32:52]: All right, the public comment is now closed. [1:32:54, 1:33:01]: Sure, we would need to open it up for those who would like to speak in in opposition to the request. I thought I thought they were both what are you saying they were questioned a one in one. [1:33:02, 1:33:07]: Yes. Yes. Okay. Well, let's have those in opposition to the development. [1:33:08, 1:33:10]: I am looking to see who we have here. [1:33:20, 1:33:25]: Okay, I don't see any additional hands raised or questions in the chat. [1:33:27, 1:33:29]: So yes, sir, I guess we can close the public hearing portion. [1:33:31, 1:33:32]: Okay, the uh [1:33:33, 1:33:35]: Public comment has been closed. [1:33:37, 1:33:37]: Um [1:33:39, 1:33:41]: Board members have any further comments? [1:33:42, 1:33:44]: Yeah, sure uh uh [1:33:45, 1:33:46]: President Mass speakers Harold. [1:33:46, 1:33:47]: Sure, go ahead. [1:33:48, 1:33:53]: Uh is it possible for us to put any some type of amendment in in there? [1:33:54, 1:33:57]: uh given an opportunity if they can uh [1:33:58, 1:34:01]: Reroute that traffic out of the subdivision from drive time. [1:34:02, 1:34:03]: Ahora [1:34:03, 1:34:06]: Like to at least have that in there if we can get [1:34:06, 1:34:09]: If there's an opportunity that will come up or possibly come up. [1:34:10, 1:34:12]: that that could happen. So [1:34:13, 1:34:14]: I don't I don't think we should just [1:34:15, 1:34:17]: Leave it as is, uh [1:34:17, 1:34:19]: I think we have a great opportunity here. [1:34:20, 1:34:23]: And maybe we need to put something in there for that. [1:34:23, 1:34:27]: Well I I I think what you're saying possibly that we should [1:34:28, 1:34:30]: table is to allow them to address those issues. [1:34:32, 1:34:35]: No, I I think we should put some stipulation on. [1:34:35, 1:34:36]: Oh on it. [1:34:37, 1:34:39]: For an opportunity. [1:34:39, 1:34:41]: If given, I mean uh [1:34:41, 1:34:43]: They're buying a property and [1:34:43, 1:34:44]: And putting up [1:34:44, 1:34:46]: builders and everything, but I [1:34:46, 1:34:47]: I think we should [1:34:48, 1:34:55]: put something in there if they have the opportunity to work it out to relieve the commercial traffic out of their neighborhood. [1:34:55, 1:34:57]: That would be my suggestion. [1:34:57, 1:35:00]: I I wouldn't want to table it. I think it's an opportunity. [1:35:04, 1:35:24]: So, uh, Chairman, if I may, um to to to Mr. Thibodeau's point, yes, we we can make amendments to the zoning conditions as stated. Um, while we were talking, I did come up with some verbiage. And if you let me know if this is along the lines that you're looking for as a statement. [1:35:24, 1:35:25]: stipulation. [1:35:25, 1:35:35]: Um the condition would be applicant shall coordinate with drive drivetime owners to consider rerouting vehicular traffic. [1:35:35, 1:35:36]: were feasible. [1:35:38, 1:35:40]: Um I want to just [1:35:40, 1:35:44]: Does that does that work? Because we're we're basically wanting to reroute traffic. [1:35:47, 1:35:50]: Out of subdivision, out of of subdivision. [1:35:51, 1:35:55]: Uh correct that feasible. Yes, that would be correct. [1:35:55, 1:36:05]: Okay, so let me restate that for the record so that it's clear. Applicants shall coordinate with drivetime owners to consider rerouting vehicular traffic. [1:36:06, 1:36:08]: out of subdivision if feasible. [1:36:12, 1:36:13]: Yeah. [1:36:14, 1:36:17]: Is that the design? The only problem is when you say feasible. [1:36:18, 1:36:22]: Uh you you're giving them too much latitude. I I would say [1:36:23, 1:36:23]: Uh. [1:36:24, 1:36:25]: Прсуда опотуні. [1:36:27, 1:36:27]: That [1:36:27, 1:36:30]: can or wouldn't make it possible versus [1:36:32, 1:36:33]: Feasible uh [1:36:33, 1:36:38]: Okay. That may put a little bit more bite in versus uh saying feasible. [1:36:39, 1:36:40]: That would be market center. [1:36:41, 1:36:46]: Okay, so then we want to do it based on the um topographic constraints. [1:36:46, 1:36:51]: So they would have to put something in place and the only way that they wouldn't. [1:36:52, 1:36:55]: I I guess would be if they couldn't come up with an agreement with drive time. [1:36:55, 1:36:56]: or if [1:36:56, 1:37:00]: Topographically and actually they are not able to [1:37:00, 1:37:03]: make the code cut to remove that traffic. [1:37:04, 1:37:06]: I think that the city [1:37:07, 1:37:12]: Uh uh y I think that's that's apple what you're saying, but I also think the city should [1:37:12, 1:37:15]: Атліст тріти лев да ситуація. [1:37:16, 1:37:16]: Uh [1:37:16, 1:37:19]: Considering that it is a neighborhood. [1:37:19, 1:37:21]: And consider that they have. [1:37:21, 1:37:23]: really unwanted uh commercial traffic. [1:37:24, 1:37:26]: Traffic running through that neighborhood. [1:37:26, 1:37:28]: That really shouldn't never happen. [1:37:29, 1:37:29]: Mm-hmm. [1:37:30, 1:37:32]: So then we can remove remove the statement. [1:37:33, 1:37:44]: if feasible or where feasible completely and just require them to make the coordination between um the drivetom owner to consider rerouting vehicular traffic. [1:37:44, 1:37:46]: out of the subdivision and period. [1:37:47, 1:37:53]: And they'll be required to do that as part of this if you if the board deems it. [1:37:53, 1:37:56]: Um what you would like to recommend for approval. [1:37:57, 1:37:58]: Yes. Okay. [1:37:59, 1:37:59]: Uh. [1:37:59, 1:38:07]: I'm sorry to interrupt. This is John Coleman. There there are certain state and environmental issues that that pose [1:38:08, 1:38:21]: uh uh uh the the that would be destroying those those restricted preserved areas which we may have no control over in addition to the topo um and then you've got drivetime that [1:38:22, 1:38:24]: We'll have to of course agree to [1:38:24, 1:38:25]: To work with [1:38:26, 1:38:38]: Those different selections. That's what the what it's asking for. I mean, of course, those conditions will make it where it makes it difficult. Um [1:38:39, 1:38:43]: however the the condition will be to coordinate that effort. [1:38:43, 1:38:47]: So that if there is a way that it can be done, that it it is done. [1:38:47, 1:38:57]: Okay. And we would also look at options that would go to the south and and and look at coordinating efforts through Henry County to the south too. So I think there's multiple solutions we can look at. [1:38:59, 1:39:02]: I I agree to that. As long as we're pursuing it. [1:39:03, 1:39:05]: А те' сам опція на тайбо. [1:39:05, 1:39:07]: I'm agreeable with that. It's it's [1:39:08, 1:39:13]: If we don't do anything, then nothing's gonna happen, or we don't put anything in motion. [1:39:13, 1:39:14]: Nothing's gonna happen. [1:39:15, 1:39:16]: And at the end of the day. [1:39:16, 1:39:20]: It's gonna we're still gonna have commercial traffic running through the neighborhood. [1:39:21, 1:39:23]: And and I think what I'm saying. [1:39:24, 1:39:25]: It is feasible. [1:39:26, 1:39:27]: Uh consider [1:39:27, 1:39:31]: That that kind of behavior should never happen in their neighborhood. [1:39:32, 1:39:34]: Regardless of the grandfather the end time. [1:39:35, 1:39:41]: i i i if there's a opportunity that exists, I think as a as a planning zoning commission board. [1:39:41, 1:39:44]: We should pursue it and try to seize that opportunity. [1:39:45, 1:39:46]: For the citizens. [1:39:46, 1:39:47]: In the community. [1:39:50, 1:39:53]: I can encourage you, Mr. Tibetok. I I think uh when we roll through there. [1:39:54, 1:39:56]: Uh, we looked at some of those. [1:39:56, 1:39:57]: Options. [1:39:57, 1:40:00]: Uh, but it would be up to them to uh [1:40:01, 1:40:02]: To see it. [1:40:02, 1:40:06]: In order uh and and as a condition of approving this. So [1:40:07, 1:40:08]: I concur with you. [1:40:10, 1:40:11]: Mr. Chairman. [1:40:12, 1:40:14]: Mr. Mr. Dumas, go ahead. [1:40:16, 1:40:18]: The staff has really prepared [1:40:19, 1:40:20]: A detail [1:40:20, 1:40:35]: report on this project. And I would just like to applaud them for giving us the kind of detail that they did, uh referencing all the studies and the land use and et cetera, et cetera. Um [1:40:36, 1:40:42]: Rarely do I vote against what staff recommends. [1:40:43, 1:40:47]: Because they are the experts. We rely on them. [1:40:49, 1:40:51]: To cross the T in the doctor eyes. [1:40:53, 1:40:56]: And I was really looking forward to this meeting. [1:40:58, 1:41:00]: To hear what the applicant [1:41:00, 1:41:01]: Had to say. [1:41:02, 1:41:04]: Although I did attend one of the public. [1:41:05, 1:41:06]: community meetings before. [1:41:07, 1:41:08]: But I wanted to hear. [1:41:09, 1:41:17]: something that would allow me to become a supporter of this rezoning. [1:41:18, 1:41:30]: Uh that's a big hurdle to to cross. I mean, there's no point in having staff if we're not gonna rely on that professional expertise to. [1:41:30, 1:41:31]: Get it right. [1:41:32, 1:41:33]: And they have [1:41:35, 1:41:37]: Already say that they recommend denying this. [1:41:39, 1:41:40]: And [1:41:40, 1:41:43]: I I haven't heard anything tonight that [1:41:45, 1:41:46]: Make me want to go against their [1:41:50, 1:41:51]: So that's where I am. [1:41:51, 1:41:54]: I agree with you, Mr. Doomsa. They did that's a detailed report. [1:41:55, 1:41:57]: And they've really uh laid out. [1:41:58, 1:42:00]: Uh their basis for denying it. [1:42:01, 1:42:04]: I uh Mr. Tibetore and I rode over there. [1:42:04, 1:42:08]: to uh look at the property. And my major concern was that community that I wouldn't want [1:42:09, 1:42:13]: that level of volume of vehicle traffic passing through my neighborhood as well. [1:42:13, 1:42:16]: And that would be my opposition to it. [1:42:16, 1:42:19]: May I may I'm sorry? Go ahead. [1:42:20, 1:42:25]: And and and I don't disagree with you on that. In fact I agree wholeheartedly, but I also [1:42:26, 1:42:29]: have a feeling that this project [1:42:29, 1:42:35]: would negatively affect the existing businesses, which nobody's talking about. [1:42:35, 1:42:39]: the existing businesses that are already in that area. [1:42:41, 1:42:45]: I think they will be adversely impacted with the traffic. [1:42:47, 1:42:48]: And [1:42:50, 1:42:53]: I don't see how it could benefit the businesses or the community. [1:42:54, 1:42:57]: or the residents, I should say, because we all community. [1:42:58, 1:43:04]: But the residents and the and the businesses that are located in that general vicinity uh [1:43:05, 1:43:07]: could be adversely affected as well. [1:43:08, 1:43:09]: For this project. [1:43:10, 1:43:11]: May I speak, Mr. President? [1:43:12, 1:43:13]: It's two at all, we'll hear. [1:43:14, 1:43:14]: Um [1:43:15, 1:43:16]: At some point. [1:43:16, 1:43:19]: We have to look we have to trade off. [1:43:20, 1:43:25]: uh what's gonna benefit the area and and when we talking about employees [1:43:26, 1:43:28]: Uh, people need a place to eat. [1:43:28, 1:43:29]: And uh [1:43:30, 1:43:32]: I think it would add [1:43:32, 1:43:33]: uh to the community [1:43:34, 1:43:35]: Providing that uh [1:43:35, 1:43:38]: There's some consideration that we can work out. I [1:43:39, 1:43:45]: I don't I it since it's warehousing and I know uh Mr. Plaster has a lot of experience about warehouses, so do I. [1:43:46, 1:43:48]: I I would see it as an asset. [1:43:48, 1:43:48]: to that. [1:43:49, 1:43:50]: Particular area. [1:43:50, 1:43:54]: And I would also see it as as providing more revenues. [1:43:55, 1:43:55]: Uh [1:43:56, 1:43:57]: To the city. [1:43:57, 1:44:00]: and to the surrounding areas for uh [1:44:01, 1:44:01]: Having uh [1:44:02, 1:44:05]: individuals working and being able to eat. [1:44:05, 1:44:06]: And sleep in that area. [1:44:07, 1:44:09]: And as far as the traffic, uh [1:44:09, 1:44:12]: Considering what he's telling me, what they're gonna do in the building. [1:44:13, 1:44:14]: Well, we may not have that kind of [1:44:15, 1:44:16]: Kind of traffic it. [1:44:16, 1:44:17]: Uh [1:44:17, 1:44:18]: There's a possibility. [1:44:19, 1:44:25]: I I'm not the expert. I know we're supposed to disseminate this information and and and make a decision. [1:44:26, 1:44:26]: Uh [1:44:27, 1:44:29]: Бу стіл have to consider. [1:44:30, 1:44:31]: The property. [1:44:31, 1:44:33]: the revenues, the impact. [1:44:34, 1:44:40]: and and what it's actually bringing to the community. That would be my consensus about uh the warehouse. [1:44:40, 1:44:43]: Warehousing does not necessarily [1:44:43, 1:44:48]: mean that there's a lot of traffic. It depends on what they're doing in in those warehouses. [1:44:48, 1:44:53]: And that's really a small track compared to some of the other warehouses that we have in the area. [1:44:58, 1:45:00]: Mr. Platter, can you add anything to that? [1:45:03, 1:45:04]: It's a pleasure. [1:45:06, 1:45:22]: Yes. Again, uh warehousing means there's no taxes, there's no sales, there's no sales taxes going to the community. Um now I and I'm not all negative on this. I hate to see this proposal denied. [1:45:22, 1:45:30]: because of lack of infrastructure around the area to support it. It would be good for the community. [1:45:31, 1:45:51]: It would be a good use of that piece of property because it is so close to the interstates. Um, I hate to see all the trucks though not going to six seventy-five, but trying to stay on 138 to get to 75. I don't think anybody would really do that, but whichever direction you were gonna go. Um [1:45:51, 1:46:00]: Again, I I hate to see this proposal not succeed, but not for its own fault. [1:46:00, 1:46:08]: Because of the surrounding infrastructure and like you said, the businesses up and down Davison Parkway that would be impacted by the traffic. [1:46:20, 1:46:22]: Well, entertain a motion for [1:46:22, 1:46:23]: First of all. [1:46:23, 1:46:29]: Mr. Uh Thibodeau has laid out along with uh Ms. Johnson some conditions for [1:46:29, 1:46:31]: The approval of this applicant. [1:46:33, 1:46:34]: And uh thank [1:46:35, 1:46:37]: That was articulated well. [1:46:37, 1:46:41]: Uh, think the applicant know what the h his his obligation is henceforth. [1:46:42, 1:46:46]: And uh that the application will be conditioned upon that. [1:46:47, 1:46:48]: So [1:46:48, 1:46:50]: I have a motion on the application. [1:46:55, 1:46:57]: I I would uh [1:46:57, 1:46:59]: Make a motion that we pass. [1:47:00, 1:47:01]: The uh zoning for that. [1:47:02, 1:47:06]: And uh I I'm looking at it from a different a lot of angles. [1:47:06, 1:47:13]: I I don't think that the the the impact would be as great. I think the biggest impact is the neighborhood traffic. [1:47:13, 1:47:19]: that's going for drive time. I think if if there's some consideration between those two entities. [1:47:20, 1:47:25]: I think it would resolve a lot of issues that's going in that area. But but we have to also look at [1:47:26, 1:47:26]: Uh [1:47:27, 1:47:28]: Anything next to the freeway [1:47:29, 1:47:31]: Із конабі коммерціази аксе. [1:47:32, 1:47:32]: Uh [1:47:33, 1:47:34]: We could [1:47:34, 1:47:35]: We can change streets. [1:47:36, 1:47:36]: Uh [1:47:37, 1:47:38]: We can put in different things. [1:47:39, 1:47:42]: But we have to give business an opportunity, uh [1:47:43, 1:47:47]: in certain areas. And I think that's one of the areas that we need to uh [1:47:48, 1:47:55]: give a business uh an opportunity to develop itself and it it it can support the surrounding areas. [1:47:56, 1:47:59]: where there's pa patrons going to eat [1:48:00, 1:48:01]: Exercise shop. [1:48:02, 1:48:04]: So I I don't see it as a as a total waste. [1:48:05, 1:48:05]: Uh [1:48:05, 1:48:07]: I think it's a great opportunity. [1:48:07, 1:48:08]: From a [1:48:08, 1:48:09]: Bitness perspective. [1:48:12, 1:48:15]: Well, Mr. Tibodeau, uh, can I get a motion from you? [1:48:16, 1:48:17]: Or approved. Yeah. [1:48:17, 1:48:20]: I'd like the motion that we change the zoning. [1:48:20, 1:48:21]: Uh. [1:48:21, 1:48:22]: To the property. [1:48:23, 1:48:25]: And that we put the stipulations that we uh [1:48:26, 1:48:28]: talked about as for as trying to uh [1:48:28, 1:48:30]: relieve the traffic. [1:48:30, 1:48:32]: out of uh the sub debate. [1:48:33, 1:48:34]: Yeah, but second. [1:48:37, 1:48:38]: I'll second it. [1:48:40, 1:48:41]: Yeah, proven. [1:48:43, 1:48:46]: All those in favor, let it be known by a sign of aye. [1:48:47, 1:48:47]: Right. [1:48:48, 1:48:48]: Right. [1:48:50, 1:48:51]: Those opposed? [1:48:51, 1:48:52]: Bye. [1:48:53, 1:48:53]: Hi. [1:48:58, 1:49:03]: Mr. P I my computer wouldn't unmute, sorry. Are you voting for approval? [1:49:05, 1:49:05]: Denial. [1:49:06, 1:49:06]: Venam. [1:49:08, 1:49:10]: It's been uh [1:49:11, 1:49:12]: Moved and second. [1:49:16, 1:49:17]: The emotion is denied. [1:49:18, 1:49:20]: The the the application is denied. [1:49:28, 1:49:32]: Okay, thank you, Jim. Excuse me, may I get clarification on what this vote is? [1:49:33, 1:49:35]: Vote was on the approval of the application. [1:49:36, 1:49:39]: We have two for and three against. [1:49:40, 1:49:43]: Right. So uh for the record, uh Chairman, if I may. [1:49:43, 1:49:44]: Um [1:49:45, 1:49:46]: Mr. Thibodeau. [1:49:47, 1:49:48]: Requested the um [1:49:49, 1:49:50]: The motion for approval. [1:49:51, 1:49:53]: Correct. Chairman Abdullah seconded it. [1:49:53, 1:49:56]: And he asked for all those for the vote. [1:49:56, 1:50:02]: And the those who were opposed were um Mr. Planchin, Ms. Nelson, and Mr. Dilmis. [1:50:03, 1:50:05]: So there's a three two vote for denial. [1:50:06, 1:50:08]: Correct. Mr. Chairman [1:50:10, 1:50:14]: Mr. Chairman. Go ahead, Mr. If I may, if I may interject. I believe [1:50:15, 1:50:17]: Mr. Planch on second that motion. [1:50:18, 1:50:25]: No, I seconded it. You seconded it? Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah, Mr. Plancher. Mr. Planter voted for denial. [1:50:25, 1:50:32]: You voted for denial and Miss Nelson voted for denial. I I got that. I just uh I just thought I heard him s second the motion. Uh uh. [1:50:33, 1:50:35]: I'm sorry. Okay. [1:50:36, 1:50:41]: That's it. Is that as that vote failed, wouldn't you have to take a new vote for [1:50:41, 1:50:50]: approval i mean uh of denial of the application because we've already voted the vote the vote is passed past three two d denial [1:50:50, 1:50:56]: Yeah now. At this point, but we do have the next item for the comprehensive plan amendment, and that also is a public hearing. [1:50:59, 1:51:00]: That is [1:51:02, 1:51:05]: Are you ready to move forward with that item, Chairman? [1:51:05, 1:51:10]: Yeah, we can move forward with it. Okay. Linda, please read um the public hearing into the record. [1:51:12, 1:51:16]: Okay, comprehensive plan amendment case number CP. [1:51:17, 1:51:22]: two oh two one IFON O ON the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge Mayor and City Council. [1:51:23, 1:51:29]: We'll hear a comprehensive plan amendment request by East Group Properties LP, the applicant to change a future land use designation. [1:51:30, 1:51:33]: of certain property from low density vertical mixed use. [1:51:33, 1:51:39]: to light industrial to allow for the development of a business distribution center within five new buildings. [1:51:39, 1:51:44]: properties locating landlock fifty seven of district twelve within the stockbird city limits. [1:51:44, 1:51:45]: Um [1:51:45, 1:51:46]: Yeah. [1:51:47, 1:51:52]: contains three parcels of seventy nine point one seven plus or minus total acres as follows. [1:51:53, 1:51:54]: Should I read these again or [1:51:56, 1:51:58]: Parcel number. [1:51:59, 1:52:10]: Parcel number 030-01009000 contains 73.88 acres located to the rear of the southwest corner of Davidson Parkway and Walter Way. [1:52:10, 1:52:16]: Parcel number 030, hyphen 01009006 contains 1.66 acres. [1:52:16, 1:52:21]: Located on the south side of Davidson Parkway, one lot west of Walter Way. [1:52:21, 1:52:26]: And parcel number O three O hyphen O one O nine O five. [1:52:26, 1:52:28]: Contains three point six three acres. [1:52:29, 1:52:33]: Located on the west side of Walter Wade, two lots south of Davidson Parkway. [1:52:34, 1:52:37]: It was noted that the applicant wishes to remove [1:52:37, 1:52:45]: The third parcel with 3.63 acres. That's parcel number 030 hyphen 01009005. [1:52:50, 1:52:56]: Um I have another PowerPoint presentation uh to give. [1:53:00, 1:53:02]: Let me um share my screen with that. [1:53:06, 1:53:08]: Okay, everyone can see that. [1:53:09, 1:53:09]: Mm. [1:53:11, 1:53:15]: Everyone can see that. Um, we have some of the same information. [1:53:16, 1:53:17]: As before. [1:53:17, 1:53:23]: With the appricant and location and size and everything. The comprehensive plan amendment request again is to [1:53:23, 1:53:32]: Change properties future land use designation from low density vertical mixed use to light industrial to allow the rezoning of a property from C3 to M1. [1:53:33, 1:53:37]: Um, we've gone through the existing uses and so forth. [1:53:38, 1:53:40]: We've looked at the aerial photo. Now I'm gonna show you. [1:53:41, 1:53:47]: This is a Stockridge future land use map of the whole city. Our subject site is here in this pink area. [1:53:47, 1:53:50]: Can see that that is the low density vertical mixed use. [1:53:51, 1:53:52]: adjacent to it. [1:53:52, 1:54:01]: To the east in this um dark orange is high density residential. That's the that's the North Bridge crossing, the residential. And we have um [1:54:02, 1:54:03]: Enlargement of that here. [1:54:04, 1:54:04]: On this slide. [1:54:05, 1:54:07]: The colors. Colours are different on this. [1:54:08, 1:54:08]: But um [1:54:09, 1:54:11]: This is the main site in here. [1:54:11, 1:54:13]: And then North Bridge. [1:54:13, 1:54:15]: Um here in the high density residential. [1:54:18, 1:54:32]: Uh let's see, we already went through existing land use. Um, we talked about what the applicant's requests are. I want to mention here importance of a property's future land use designation relative to its zoning classification. [1:54:32, 1:54:35]: So a proposed zoning district must be permitted. [1:54:36, 1:54:42]: within the property's future land use designation. Now the pro the comprehensive plan is a [1:54:42, 1:54:45]: is a a is a lengthy report. [1:54:45, 1:54:46]: Um [1:54:46, 1:54:50]: with recommendations for the future development of the city and then it [1:54:50, 1:54:56]: It includes different uh land use uh designations throughout the city. Um [1:54:57, 1:54:58]: Four different properties. [1:54:58, 1:55:03]: Uh it also noted that new developments should promote a better sense of place and preserve [1:55:03, 1:55:05]: value and community character. [1:55:06, 1:55:08]: Uh see we had the site plan. [1:55:09, 1:55:10]: And then um [1:55:10, 1:55:18]: Couple of things on definitions, low density vertical mixed use should mainly serve residents of the surrounding residential neighborhoods. [1:55:18, 1:55:22]: And should have a community-oriented feel of the for these areas. [1:55:22, 1:55:23]: Um [1:55:23, 1:55:29]: So that's the purpose of the the existing land use designation. Now the light industrial, this is what [1:55:30, 1:55:33]: the applicant is requesting so that they can rezone to M1. [1:55:35, 1:55:43]: Is intended for business parks, which uh incorporate a warehouse and light manufacturing operations. So this is why we said that. [1:55:43, 1:55:45]: Uh for for in order to [1:55:45, 1:55:50]: Rizona M1, they have to change the land use designation to light industrial. [1:55:50, 1:55:51]: Just want to mention here. [1:55:52, 1:55:57]: Uh purpose of C three district is to provide commercial activities, providing services. [1:55:57, 1:56:00]: requiring locations near major roads and highways. [1:56:00, 1:56:04]: Which are not appropriate located in C one, C two districts. [1:56:04, 1:56:08]: And the M1 district purpose is to provide for industri light industrial uses. [1:56:08, 1:56:11]: They're nuisance free and not generators of [1:56:11, 1:56:15]: hazardous waste and they should be near major uh thoroughfares as well. [1:56:17, 1:56:21]: Uh we rec staff recommends the denial of the comprehensive plan amendment. [1:56:21, 1:56:23]: Uh, for the subject property. [1:56:23, 1:56:24]: Um [1:56:25, 1:56:28]: And uh mention uh however [1:56:28, 1:56:29]: What we talked about before. [1:56:30, 1:56:32]: that uh we feel the property is better. [1:56:32, 1:56:38]: served in uh commercial uses as it's properly currently zoned and the current land use destination. [1:56:39, 1:56:41]: Uh however if uh [1:56:41, 1:56:47]: Uh board desires to approve this. It should be only approved if the rezoning is approved and with the [1:56:48, 1:56:49]: conditions um [1:56:50, 1:56:52]: that were mentioned in in the rezoning. [1:56:53, 1:56:54]: Uh staff report. [1:56:56, 1:56:58]: Uh any questions about this? [1:57:01, 1:57:02]: No, I think uh [1:57:03, 1:57:07]: We address this when we deny the the zoning. So [1:57:08, 1:57:08]: Uh [1:57:09, 1:57:12]: Uh I can't possibly see approving this and we've already denied the zoning. [1:57:13, 1:57:16]: Right. Well they go hand in hand. [1:57:16, 1:57:17]: All right. [1:57:18, 1:57:26]: So Mr. Chairman, uh with it with it being a public hearing, will we still have to go through the same um process um to allow the applicant to speak? [1:57:27, 1:57:32]: Um and from there we have to open it up for public comment. Um [1:57:32, 1:57:34]: for the public hearing for those who want to speak in. [1:57:34, 1:57:38]: favor and those who want to speak in opposition ten minutes each. [1:57:39, 1:57:41]: Okay, um let me say this. [1:57:42, 1:57:44]: I got a appointment at eight thirty. [1:57:44, 1:57:48]: And so I'd like to leave uh Mr. Thibodeau as the chair. [1:57:48, 1:57:49]: And excuse myself. [1:57:50, 1:57:52]: And he has my vote. [1:57:53, 1:57:54]: Mr. Thibodeau. [1:57:55, 1:57:57]: Yes, sir. I'm listening. I he [1:57:58, 1:57:58]: Okay. [1:58:00, 1:58:04]: Uh, my my only problem is if we go on through the same thing and we took the first [1:58:05, 1:58:06]: meeting and and [1:58:06, 1:58:09]: decide not to change the zoning on. [1:58:09, 1:58:11]: Are we just going through the motion? [1:58:11, 1:58:15]: Well yeah, we have to go through the motion, but my point is I'm leaving you as the chair. [1:58:15, 1:58:17]: Because I I have an eight thirty appointment. [1:58:18, 1:58:19]: That's that's fine. [1:58:20, 1:58:20]: Okay. [1:58:21, 1:58:22]: All right, thank you very much. [1:58:22, 1:58:23]: Thank you. [1:58:23, 1:58:23]: Okay. [1:58:35, 1:58:37]: All right. We can continue. [1:58:43, 1:58:45]: Discussion you're muted. [1:59:00, 1:59:03]: So um Mr. Thibodeau, um the [1:59:04, 1:59:08]: Next portion would be to if you do want to allow the applicant to speak. [1:59:08, 1:59:11]: If you want to go into the public hearing, we can do that also. [1:59:12, 1:59:13]: So um [1:59:15, 1:59:16]: At your leisure. [1:59:17, 1:59:24]: Well, I I wouldn't have a problem giving the applicant an opportunity to speak, but if you wanna go into the public, uh [1:59:25, 1:59:27]: comments, I'm I'm all for that also. [1:59:28, 1:59:31]: No, the apple the applink should have an opportunity to speak if if you would allow them. [1:59:32, 1:59:34]: Yes, uh I I would allow the app. [1:59:35, 1:59:35]: Yeah. [1:59:36, 1:59:37]: John or Michelle? [1:59:38, 1:59:41]: Sure, I'm gonna Michelle but I'll let Michelle jump in. Yeah. [1:59:42, 1:59:48]: Michelle Battle with Battle Law. Um I apologize that I was unable to stay on the call earlier. [1:59:48, 1:59:53]: Hoping we would have been able to get to speak before uh seven o'clock as I had another hearing in Rockdale County. [1:59:54, 1:59:58]: That being said, um obviously we're extremely disappointed with the last vote. [2:00:03, 2:00:04]: And we'll continue. [2:00:04, 2:00:15]: to try and address the issues that have been raised, but we will not uh further prolong this moment. So um at this point we will simply um move on and allow the opposition to speak. Thank you. [2:00:26, 2:00:31]: Thank you, Michelle. So Mr. Tulita, we can um call for those who would like to speak in favor of the request. [2:00:32, 2:00:39]: And then after if we have any comments, I don't see any, uh we would go into those who would like to speak in opposition. [2:00:45, 2:00:48]: I I would like to go into the meeting so that we can [2:00:48, 2:00:50]: Listen to the opposition. [2:00:51, 2:00:54]: I don't I don't think we need a motion for that. Uh [2:00:55, 2:01:00]: No, we don't, we don't. I'm I'm just looking through the attendee list to see if we have any raised hands. [2:01:01, 2:01:03]: Or anything in the QA. [2:01:04, 2:01:09]: session no i do not have anyone speaking in opposition [2:01:09, 2:01:11]: Oh, in favor for this request. [2:01:12, 2:01:16]: And then we'll just if you would call for those who'd like to speak in opposition. [2:01:21, 2:01:22]: I would like to call [2:01:23, 2:01:25]: Those speaking in opposition for the uh [2:01:27, 2:01:28]: Planning your zoning. [2:01:32, 2:01:32]: Nice. [2:01:37, 2:01:43]: Again, I have no um raised hands or anything in the QA. [2:01:43, 2:01:46]: um chat for anyone who would like to speak in opposition. [2:01:47, 2:01:51]: We can close the public hearing portion at this point. [2:01:51, 2:01:52]: And uh take a boat. [2:01:56, 2:02:03]: Mr. Chairman, before the vote, may I just ask a question of Ms. Johnson, please, or any staff member. [2:02:04, 2:02:05]: Is it common? [2:02:07, 2:02:10]: Or under what circumstances or how frequent. [2:02:11, 2:02:13]: Do we change? [2:02:15, 2:02:16]: The comprehensive plan. [2:02:20, 2:02:21]: Does it uh okay. [2:02:22, 2:02:24]: Is that considered rare or is that freak? [2:02:26, 2:02:43]: In Stockbridge, based on my tenure, I would not know necessarily, but I can find out for you. Um Linda, uh Linda, can you because this is our first rezoning since I've been uh with the city, but Linda, if you can if you can give some insight, just a brief overview. [2:02:43, 2:02:45]: To answer Mr. Dumas's question. [2:02:46, 2:02:47]: Um [2:02:48, 2:02:56]: In talking with pre previously with Mr. Knighton, he's with Mr. Knighton, the city manager, he has said that different cities and counties throughout Georgia. [2:02:57, 2:02:58]: Ha um handle [2:02:58, 2:03:00]: handle this differently that some [2:03:01, 2:03:05]: Some cities and counties view comprehensive plan as being as being um [2:03:06, 2:03:09]: uh mandatory uh for approval whereas others [2:03:09, 2:03:10]: See it as being a guide. [2:03:11, 2:03:11]: Um [2:03:12, 2:03:16]: I'm not sure which position Stockbridge is is taking on that. [2:03:16, 2:03:17]: Um [2:03:18, 2:03:21]: But no, we have not had a comprehensive plan amendment. [2:03:22, 2:03:24]: Um so far in in [2:03:24, 2:03:30]: In uh two and a half years since the city has taken over planning and zoning functions from Henry County. [2:03:30, 2:03:31]: Thank you. [2:03:37, 2:03:39]: Mr. Chairman, I'm we're ready to vote. [2:03:43, 2:03:45]: Oh, we got uh well, I like [2:03:46, 2:03:50]: It looked like Mr. Coleman wanted to say something, but it looked like he is gone. [2:03:52, 2:03:52]: I'm I'm here. [2:03:54, 2:03:59]: Okay, did you wanna say anything before we proceeded? [2:03:59, 2:04:10]: Uh no, same same comments uh I had from the prior presentation, so no need to to repeat those. I just wanted Michelle Bowell to have a chance to to add any additional color. Thank you. [2:04:23, 2:04:25]: Is Mr. Terror ready for a vote? [2:04:29, 2:04:31]: I'd like to present a motion that we vote. [2:04:31, 2:04:33]: For the uh previous [2:04:33, 2:04:35]: Voting change uh [2:04:36, 2:04:38]: Recommendation to change the zoning. [2:04:41, 2:04:46]: Is there a motion on the floor? I think that would be appropriate if you call for a motion. [2:04:47, 2:04:48]: And a second and then we'll vote. [2:04:49, 2:04:51]: Okay. Well I'll call for a motion that we [2:04:52, 2:04:57]: vote on this change, uh the same recommendation that we had previous in the previous [2:04:58, 2:04:59]: Oh. [2:04:59, 2:05:02]: mi minutes, meetings that we just had. [2:05:03, 2:05:05]: Uh are there anybody in fight? I mean [2:05:06, 2:05:07]: Like is there a second? [2:05:07, 2:05:08]: I'll second that. [2:05:09, 2:05:09]: Okay. [2:05:12, 2:05:13]: All in favor? [2:05:17, 2:05:22]: What are we voting state act? What what are we voting on, denial or approval? Right. [2:05:24, 2:05:28]: Well the the motion wasn't clear. [2:05:30, 2:05:33]: No, no, no. [2:05:34, 2:05:34]: Um [2:05:35, 2:05:38]: Meaning on the property that we have, we want to change the zoning, okay? [2:05:40, 2:05:40]: No. [2:05:41, 2:05:42]: It's the same conditions. [2:05:42, 2:05:43]: On the previous [2:05:45, 2:05:49]: motion that we had pri prior to what we're doing now. [2:05:49, 2:05:50]: Now they're [2:05:50, 2:05:54]: Are are there anybody in favor that we change the zoning? [2:05:55, 2:05:56]: for this particular piece of property. [2:06:03, 2:06:07]: Uh you already voted on the zoning, now you're voting on a comprehensive plan amendment. [2:06:08, 2:06:08]: Thank you. [2:06:09, 2:06:12]: Okay. Well on the on the planning commitment I vote [2:06:12, 2:06:16]: Uh is there anybody voting for the conference planning change? [2:06:20, 2:06:24]: I if I could point out, I mean, theoretically to answer your previous question, I mean [2:06:24, 2:06:25]: Uh um [2:06:26, 2:06:29]: Land use designation could theoretically be re [2:06:29, 2:06:34]: be approved without rezoning, but that would be more speculative in nature on for benefit of [2:06:35, 2:06:37]: some other some other different [2:06:37, 2:06:43]: uh project ms mr timidale if i may um we would just need to [2:06:43, 2:06:49]: have a motion for approval or denial um formally and then the the vote [2:06:50, 2:06:53]: Mr. Chairman, uh in that regard, I move [2:06:54, 2:07:03]: On case number CP 2021-01, the dun the comprehensive plan amendment, I move that we deny it. [2:07:05, 2:07:06]: I s I second that. [2:07:09, 2:07:11]: All those in favour? [2:07:11, 2:07:12]: So yeah. [2:07:13, 2:07:14]: Hi. [2:07:16, 2:07:20]: How many was that? I'm sorry, was that Mr. Dumas, Mr. Plangent, and Miss Nelson, correct? [2:07:20, 2:07:22]: All those opposed [2:07:26, 2:07:27]: I didn't hear anybody. [2:07:27, 2:07:29]: A anybody opposed? [2:07:31, 2:07:32]: What emotion care? [2:07:34, 2:07:39]: Okay. Are you are you voting, uh, Mr. Thibodeau, or are you abstaining? [2:07:40, 2:07:43]: He's a chairperson, the only votes that they're tied. [2:07:43, 2:07:44]: Okay. [2:07:45, 2:07:47]: Great. So we have three, four. [2:07:48, 2:07:54]: And zero opposed. Let me sorry, three for denial. Three three for the for denial. Pardon me. [2:07:54, 2:07:58]: Mm-hmm. Three for denial and zero um in favor. [2:07:59, 2:08:00]: Mm-hmm. Okay. [2:08:00, 2:08:01]: Right. [2:08:03, 2:08:07]: Thank you, sir. Uh our next item, are we ready to move forward? [2:08:09, 2:08:10]: Yes, I'm ready to move forward. [2:08:11, 2:08:16]: All right, uh Linda, if you will read into the record, the next item. [2:08:19, 2:08:20]: Okay. [2:08:21, 2:08:23]: Unified Development Code UDC. [2:08:23, 2:08:28]: Um the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge Mayor and City Council will review. [2:08:29, 2:08:34]: Community development department's proposed new UDC, which includes the city's zoning code. [2:08:34, 2:08:36]: A new UDC would comprise. [2:08:37, 2:08:40]: Both an update and a rewriting of the existing zoning and development ordinances. [2:08:41, 2:08:43]: For the purposes purposes of one. [2:08:43, 2:08:46]: Making needed corrections and clarifications. [2:08:46, 2:08:47]: Two revising [2:08:47, 2:08:49]: Variable zoning districts in the city. [2:08:49, 2:08:52]: And three, making the document more user friendly. [2:08:55, 2:09:15]: Um, Chairman Thibodeau and uh council and board members, I'd like to um just thank you all so much for your um support and review of the UDC, our unified development code that we are proposing. Um we have the um consultants on the line um who are going to [2:09:15, 2:09:28]: and go through their review and their overview of the changes that have been proposed. You all have the document and we will go through some major changes. I've got Casey Kurzik. [2:09:29, 2:09:36]: with the collaborative firm and also Nicole Washington uh Nicolette Washington, who will be presenting this evening. [2:09:36, 2:09:43]: Um Casey, uh so Linda, if you will stop sharing and then it'll allow for um Casey Kurziv to share her screen. [2:09:44, 2:09:47]: Okay. Thank you. Great. Thank you. [2:09:51, 2:10:11]: And here we go. Thank you, Brecca. Thank you, board members, for uh staying on with us this late. So I um I know this is a large document, so I try to uh streamline it. If you recall, we actually started this entire process with this board specifically towards the end of last year. [2:10:11, 2:10:19]: And I know we've come to you a couple of times just to kind of give little updates here and there. But now we are in the home stretch. [2:10:19, 2:10:39]: and um seeking to move forward through the adoption process. So I'd like to kind of just walk you through how we got here, some of that methodology, and really just kind of breaking up the different chapters so you can really see um where a lot of the focus was spent at. [2:10:40, 2:10:42]: So here we go. [2:10:43, 2:10:55]: Um, we've kind of been through all this. I think you guys are all especially aware of this just because you deal with this on a monthly basis, unlike other boards or maybe other members of the public who might only come out. [2:10:55, 2:11:05]: when something affects them directly. But your current ordinance itself has many sections adopted between the late 90s and then, you know, just a couple years ago, about 2016. [2:11:05, 2:11:14]: Um, the organization is actually held in different chapters um in your entire code. So um you have some. [2:11:14, 2:11:34]: References in like the licensing section, in the planning section, and then you have another zoning section. Um, we also found some references that really are no longer in existence. Um they're actually referenced outside into the Henry County Code. So we did want to make sure we clean up that language for you and create it specifically. [2:11:34, 2:11:36]: Specifically for the city itself. [2:11:37, 2:11:48]: And then also we looked at all of the best practices when it came to engineering and design standards. Wanted to make sure you have the latest and greatest ones of those as well. [2:11:49, 2:12:09]: Um, like Miss Breca said, we kind of started this with some overall goals. And this is really what we heard from you all, what we heard from the elected officials, and really what we heard from the public when we went out to them. I think some of you actually joined us for those meetings as well. And that is just to improve the overall organization, update those zoning and overlay districts. [2:12:09, 2:12:17]: Works, integrate architectural and site design requirements, and define and streamline all of those review processes. [2:12:17, 2:12:26]: So, what we have is we actually have a new UDC organization. So instead of having to go through different [2:12:26, 2:12:46]: Whether it be chapter five, chapter eight, or chapter 12, I believe it's where the other one is, you will now go to uh the chapter 12 and you will find all of your zoning provisions, all of your sign standards, all of your tree protection standards, how to subdivide land, environmental protection standards. [2:12:46, 2:12:50]: standards and then also your infrastructure improvement of your streets. [2:12:51, 2:13:01]: So if it's okay, we'll just jump right in to the zoning districts. Um, because what we really did is uh we really went through and really navigated through your text. [2:13:01, 2:13:21]: Through your current zoning map. And we also matched everything back to your comprehensive plan. That's the future development map that you were all just talking about at the item before. Um, and we really just kind of looked at the districts and we just noticed something. So you have the little table to the right. Um, many of your residential districts. [2:13:21, 2:13:38]: just really aren't being used. And really, you know, that's not a bad thing. I think some of them actually came over from Henry County. But you know, as the as your sewer began to expand and as development tend to occur, you know, you're just not building those larger lots anymore. [2:13:38, 2:13:58]: So we're looking at the RA and the R1, which are kind of your single-family residential, defining requiring an acre or more. Those are really your least used. And then you actually have your duplex, which really only has a couple more development areas in it. And then most of your multifamily. [2:13:58, 2:14:15]: Family is actually held within that RM, that multifamily disc district. We couldn't actually find any apartments on the map. That's your RM1. You do have some of the property zoned for townhouses and very little for the condominium section. [2:14:15, 2:14:35]: And then going through when we look at the commercial districts, those are kind of normal actually. Those are really kind of how most jurisdictions spell them out, making sure there's a difference between your office institutional, making sure that your neighborhood commercial would be able to locate well inside or near residential. [2:14:35, 2:14:42]: And then of course your C2s and your C threes, more on those major corridors and by your interstate changes. [2:14:42, 2:15:02]: And then looking down at your heavy manufacturing is kind of lower there than you can see your light. And then one of the things we did find is that the majority of your single family residential is actually zoned for your PD, which is your planned development. However, a couple of years ago, [2:15:02, 2:15:04]: That was actually removed from the code. [2:15:04, 2:15:10]: However, a lot of your properties are still holding that zoning designation on the map. [2:15:10, 2:15:15]: So that's one of the things that we kind of look through to kind of set up the methodology. [2:15:15, 2:15:31]: So when we really kind of dove in after we went through all the public and kind of listened to everything and met with the different boards and commissions, what we are proposing is that some of these underutilized districts actually be combined. [2:15:31, 2:15:37]: Or actually expanded. There are several districts where we actually expanded the uses. [2:15:37, 2:15:53]: So looking like once again for those the residential agriculture on the single family, merging those into the rural residential, you do still have some properties, primarily in the northwestern corner of the city that still have that style of development. [2:15:55, 2:15:57]: Merging together your R2s and your R3s. [2:15:58, 2:16:10]: Um, the one thing we did is actually expand a lot of the uses in your duplex zoning, um, which we're now calling the city center residential. And we'll actually go into that just a little bit further down. [2:16:11, 2:16:30]: Um, looking at combining all of your multifamily back into one district with specific requirements. And then we did actually create a new district, and that is specifically for your downtown area. That is actually primarily one of the comments we received out of the public comments. [2:16:30, 2:16:50]: And then merging some of your heavy industrial with your railroad uses. And then if you remember, you have a lot of properties zoned that PUD. So what we did is we actually um drafted a new PUD ordinance for you. So not only would it allow residential, but it will also allow some commercial. [2:16:50, 2:16:57]: Commercial uses in there. And it would be mixed use either across the land or in the buildings vertically. We'll go into that a little more. [2:16:58, 2:17:11]: So what you have before is 19 previous zoning districts. And with kind of that reorganization and some of those expanded uses, you would be down to 13 districts overall. [2:17:12, 2:17:32]: One of the things that we also noticed is when it comes to your districts itself, actually none of them reference what actual residential uses are allowed in all residential zoning districts. So we really wanted to make sure that we put the focus back on to making sure that there [2:17:32, 2:17:51]: is an intent for each district, making sure that the permitted uses are clear, making sure that the conditional uses are clear. And then also going into the actual design standards. So your minimum lot requirements, your front, your sides, your rear setbacks, and your heights. [2:17:51, 2:18:00]: And we've actually created them in kind of a new two-page layout for everyone so they can actually see it as that district exists. [2:18:01, 2:18:07]: Another item that you'll have in the code is a uh land use table or a a [2:18:08, 2:18:28]: a uh district use table or matrix, some people call it, but this will be a catch-all for staff and anyone from the outside, whether it be a developer or an architect or even just you know a property owner to really kind of see what uses are allowed in each zoning district. I know uh [2:18:28, 2:18:48]: Ms. Brucca and all her staff can tell you, they field phone calls every day, all day long, I'm sure. And people either have the zoning and they know where their property is and they want to know what uses they can build on it, or they know what their business is and they want to know what property they have to go find. So either way, um, staff will be able to answer. [2:18:48, 2:18:50]: those questions quickly for them. [2:18:51, 2:19:11]: Now going back to some of those expanded districts that we talked about earlier, um, this new city center residential district allows for additional housing types. And these are kind of, I think the term is out there, we've all kind of heard it before, but these are kind of those missing middle housing opportunities. So it's not [2:19:11, 2:19:31]: quite single family but it's also not quite the density of true you know mixed use or high-rise apartment complex or anything like that so those uses would be duplexes triplexes quadruplexes um offering accessory dwellings that may be something where there'd be like an in-law suite [2:19:30, 2:19:44]: maybe in a garage type setting or maybe built into the house themselves. And then also making sure that there are senior housing choices that can be conveniently. [2:19:44, 2:19:50]: um placed in these districts, um preferably um more down to the [2:19:50, 2:19:59]: near the city center, like the downtown area where your new amphitheater are, maybe closer to some major corridors. So there can actually be more offerings and [2:20:00, 2:20:02]: uh availability for people [2:20:04, 2:20:24]: Um, and then once again, we kind of want to go back to that mixed use, that PD district that we um kind of recreated. We merged a little bit between your PTD and your M U N D. And then we actually allowed more uses. So allowing those combinations of uses, which is gonna promote flexibility in those. [2:20:24, 2:20:41]: development standards and actually creating a little bit of a different process so a developer could come in and make sure that you see exactly what he's proposing before anything is even rezoned. [2:20:41, 2:20:53]: So what that new process would require that the preliminary concept be reviewed by yourself as the board and then once again by the city council. And then if that concept plan is approved. [2:20:54, 2:20:56]: And they may have. [2:20:56, 2:21:16]: um a mixture of single family housing with townhouses, with maybe some uh commercial or even some mixed use process. And then they would actually go into their full master development plan, which would be the fully engineered documents of how it would be designed and approved. And those approvals [2:21:16, 2:21:18]: would go through the city reviewers themselves. [2:21:20, 2:21:40]: Um, another thing, which I know we're going to talk on the end, we kind of have two public meetings here tonight. Um, but when we look at updating the text and modifying some of those zoning categories, we also have to make sure that the zoning map is um consistent and has all of those language on there. So you can see that's the map right. [2:21:40, 2:21:41]: right there as we're proposing it. [2:21:43, 2:22:03]: And then the same thing we talked about creating that new downtown Main Street district. Once again, we created the same layout so everyone would know what's available. When it comes to the residential uses, the idea is really to get them more on the upper floors of that downtown area and then make sure that your retail options are things. [2:22:03, 2:22:23]: Things like your apparel stores, your retail stores, your bakeries, pharmacies, professional offices, restaurants, outdoor dining would be allowed, things of that nature. And then we did actually build in some conditional uses. Once again, some diversity in housing, those duplexes, triplexes, and quadruplexes. [2:22:23, 2:22:34]: And then making sure that we kept those conditional uses that are already set forth within your code, which are the bars, the taverns, and the billiards and the arcades. [2:22:35, 2:22:43]: Casey, if you don't mind if I'll jump in for just a moment. Um, I wanted to kind of point out to the count the planning commission tonight that [2:22:44, 2:22:52]: The downtown Main Street District has been a conversation, I think, for quite some time. Now that we have the amphitheater in place. [2:22:52, 2:22:56]: These standards were built around that reality. [2:22:56, 2:23:02]: to ensure that we allow for uses that are gonna be compatible, attractive. [2:23:02, 2:23:06]: For folks who are going to be utilizing the amphitheater. So I wanted to point that out and [2:23:07, 2:23:15]: Um, because there's a lot of thought has gone into this um project. Uh, we've been working specifically with economic development. [2:23:16, 2:23:20]: on this particular district to come up with something that makes sense. [2:23:20, 2:23:29]: that is in line with their Main Street plan, is in line with what they like to see kind of build and be a catalyst type development. [2:23:30, 2:23:34]: in the downtown area. So uh just want to keep that in mind and keep you um [2:23:34, 2:23:37]: Keep that in front of you as you continue your review. [2:23:37, 2:23:39]: Perfect. Thank you so much. [2:23:40, 2:23:45]: And then do we kind of pulled an excerpt out here and put the um [2:23:46, 2:23:50]: kind of map overlay on the bottom so you can see that, but this will be the parcels. [2:23:51, 2:23:53]: That are actually [2:23:53, 2:23:56]: Um, going to hold that new downtown zoning district. [2:23:57, 2:24:17]: um classification. So I think you can kind of see because I know that just a regular parcel map wouldn't have done you any justice, but this is actually where the new amphitheater is in City Hall. So it's just an older photo that we found online, just so you could get your bearings and then this is your entrance into downtown and up through the the park area. [2:24:17, 2:24:17]: Yeah. [2:24:21, 2:24:41]: And um we still kept that um there was actually an overlay um through the downtown area. So we didn't actually change all of the properties to that downtown area, really focusing more on that kind of core of the downtown and then expanding outward, especially onto properties that the [2:24:41, 2:25:01]: city owns because that's a great opportunity to really get those catalyst sites off the ground and build on the idea of what the economic development team and of course your community development team is working towards right now. So we kept those same things outdoor dining and special events, making sure you still have the architectural features, the permitted material [2:25:01, 2:25:05]: materials and colors and the streetscapes and the parking requirements. [2:25:07, 2:25:27]: Um, and then one new thing that we did, which we kind of heard, and it was kind of, I think, kind of stimulated a little bit um by a lot of the JOTICO development. We went back and we really looked at your overlay districts. You had three of them, whether you knew it or not, you do. Um that's the high. [2:25:27, 2:25:33]: High rise district, the highway 138 corridor, and then the highway um [2:25:34, 2:25:37]: Course, the photos are all on it, the highway corridor. [2:25:37, 2:25:45]: Um, had to move that around. And what we saw, and even what staff told us, is there's areas where there's properties that actually fall into. [2:25:47, 2:26:07]: Two, if not some actually fall into all three of those districts. So at that time it's really kind of hard to determine for staff and for you know an engineer or developer, like which overlay is going to supersede. So what we really did is look at where your future development map calls that growth, what [2:26:07, 2:26:27]: What each district was meant to do. So, like your high-rise was actually to promote mixed use, to get that higher density, to get that commercial on the bottom floor, the residential, maybe even office on the upper floor. And then your highway corridor and your 138 were really a lot about your architectural details, about your [2:26:26, 2:26:40]: streetscapes and things like that. So what we did is we actually combined a lot of the standards and we created one district itself that will be called the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. [2:26:41, 2:26:58]: And that will allow mixed use development by right. They won't have to come in for a conditional use or any special approval. It will allow some increased heights compared to other areas of the city. And that's because these areas are really more focused towards the interstate and the major corridors. [2:26:58, 2:27:11]: Uh we did write in the allowance of some reduction in parking. So when you do have more of those mixed use on the property, the goal would be that the parking would be shared throughout the entire day and night and managed in a little different way. [2:27:11, 2:27:21]: Making sure that we include those site design and access standards, and then also make sure that the landscaping lighting and buffer requirements are all still in there. [2:27:21, 2:27:27]: Um and you can kind of see them here, these are actually the two different overlays, just kind of the map showing you where they are. [2:27:30, 2:27:37]: And then the other thing we actually jump in one more one more thing case. My apologies. If you go back to the the previous map. So [2:27:37, 2:27:39]: The parkway makes use overlay. [2:27:40, 2:27:46]: A district is and you can see if you look just kinda to the northwest. [2:27:46, 2:27:48]: You'll see the parcel. [2:27:51, 2:28:11]: That was for pre-distoning is considered a parkway mixed use overlay. The attempt for that property and other properties, if you for the far south, which is bridges at Jodico, are designated for those mixed use, mid-rise, high-rise types of development, which have um uh compatible uses. [2:28:10, 2:28:15]: in the general vicinity and within walking distance or a short, short drive. [2:28:16, 2:28:18]: And I just want to point that out to you because [2:28:19, 2:28:21]: currently bridges of Jotaco is being [2:28:22, 2:28:25]: Going through the process to become a built out. [2:28:25, 2:28:28]: project and we've been talking about it for years now. [2:28:28, 2:28:36]: Give a short, short update once we finish. But this is, we wanted to condense and make sense of. [2:28:37, 2:28:48]: the types of um standards, development standards we had for these. And what we did was take on the Jodico South Design Guidelines, which is this South parcel. [2:28:48, 2:28:53]: Just um that's being going through the process of being developed now because we saw [2:28:54, 2:29:04]: that a lot of these overlays had some variation of that particular those guidelines. So we wanted to kind of mirror those and stay with the [2:29:04, 2:29:06]: The same flavor and character. [2:29:06, 2:29:09]: of the area we're trying to to create. [2:29:09, 2:29:18]: and and look at trends throughout you know nationally and look at opportunities for for growth and for new projects. [2:29:19, 2:29:21]: Oh thanks, Casey. Perfect, no problem. [2:29:23, 2:29:43]: Um another thing that we really um I say created, and that's just because there really weren't any true citywide development standards. So what we did is we actually re we actually created real development standards. So those are gonna be your architectural requirements for your mixed use, your commercial. [2:29:43, 2:30:03]: your residential guidelines. And once again, these were all based upon those Jodico design standards, which I know were drafted a couple of years ago when that was came through. But we really took the ideas there in requiring the open space, in requiring outdoor lighting standards. [2:30:02, 2:30:22]: In requiring streetscape requirements, in requiring um bike paths. And then one of the things would be adding for all the major highways to have a 10-feet wide pedestrian travel zone and a 10-feet wide fixture planning zone. So that's really going to start um bringing the [2:30:22, 2:30:25]: The focus also to the streetscape. [2:30:26, 2:30:46]: Um, so um not just the landscaping, but also hardscape that's built in the there, like the lightings and um possibly trash receptacles or even park benches and things like that to really kind of get an eye and a focus now as you're really driving through these corridors so you can know that you're really in the city of Stockbridge because [2:30:46, 2:30:52]: because the building architecture should start looking the same and the roadways should start looking the same. So all of that type of information. [2:30:54, 2:30:57]: Uh may I may I have something pertaining to that? [2:30:57, 2:30:58]: Shit? [2:30:58, 2:31:02]: You said you took a lot of this information from the Jodeco station. [2:31:03, 2:31:03]: This project. [2:31:04, 2:31:05]: Am I correct? [2:31:05, 2:31:06]: That's correct. Mm-hmm. [2:31:07, 2:31:11]: And the planning zoning uh actually developed that. [2:31:11, 2:31:13]: project for [2:31:13, 2:31:15]: that particular community. [2:31:15, 2:31:17]: That's correct. Absolutely. Mm-hmm. [2:31:23, 2:31:43]: Um, so that's kind of where we are with really a lot of the true zoning items. So now we're gonna kind of move into the signage. Um, the signage really uh we really just had some minor changes in there from what staff identified that were kind of problematic or just needed to be updated. Um, but I want to make sure you know you're still going to have all of your monument-based signs. [2:31:43, 2:31:43]: Thanks. [2:31:44, 2:31:50]: Um you will still have the limited wall signage that's based upon the square feet of the front of the building. [2:31:51, 2:32:01]: You'll also have requirements to have a landscaping kind of planting around the sign bases and then making sure that the temporary signs are regulated accordingly. [2:32:02, 2:32:08]: Um now another thing, this is where kind of where we get into the crux of really where a lot was. [2:32:09, 2:32:10]: Really just written new. [2:32:10, 2:32:11]: Um [2:32:12, 2:32:32]: Or not yet, I guess we're still going through the zoning process here. But the one thing we did is we have to look at the processes. And you guys are part of that process. So those rezoning processes through those conditional use permits, the comprehensive plan amendments, text amendments and variances. Um, these were really just all altered and kind of updated. [2:32:32, 2:32:36]: just to create consistency through the way they were just written. [2:32:36, 2:32:45]: Um, so no one none of your processes were completely overhauled. Just kind of tweak to streamline them a bit a little bit and make sure all of the texts read correctly. [2:32:48, 2:33:08]: Um, when we looked at the tree protection ordinance, um, this was actually one that was truly rewritten just to ensure compliance with the true industry standards. Um, previously, I think it was Linda may have been the only person who really knew where these standards were and that there was a paper copy located in the clerk's office. So what we're [2:33:08, 2:33:28]: Really did is truly incorporate them into the code themselves and make sure that we have all the requirements in there for the tree survey, making sure that development protects the trees. More importantly, that the trees that they identify to be protected will actually be um have the proper. [2:33:28, 2:33:48]: Proper fencing around them, have the proper diameter saved around them, so they will continue to grow for years to come. Also making sure that there's a tree density requirement. So you wouldn't just be able to clear-cut the land, you would actually have trees that remain or could be replanted depending on the land. [2:33:47, 2:33:54]: depending on what the sites need, and then making sure that there's the true final inspection process built in through the city there. [2:33:55, 2:34:07]: Um, the subdivision regulations, um, this process wasn't really clearly defined before. So we really went ahead and solidified it, made sure that there's the process for the preliminary plat. [2:34:08, 2:34:27]: For the like a smaller subdivision, maybe you're just dividing a ladder to the official final plat recording and the official recording at the clerk's office. And this is all actually processes that community development does, but we really just wanted to spell it out for them clean and easy so everyone could read. [2:34:29, 2:34:49]: The environmental protection sections were actually completely updated to ensure compliance with the federal and the state regulations. So these really get into true, true engineering design and true EPD regulations and everything that the city has to do with the state on an annual basis. [2:34:49, 2:35:04]: So that's going to be your soil erosion and sedimentation control measures, your floodplains, your stream buffer protections, stormwater management, and then the discharge of any illicit substances or water or anything like that. [2:35:06, 2:35:26]: And then once again, the infrastructure improvements, these are kind of really going to go back to your streets and your pedestrian access. Um, these were actually just referenced in the Henry County Code. Um, and since you're referencing in the code, Henry County has actually rewritten them twice that we have found. So we really [2:35:26, 2:35:46]: Really went ahead and made sure that you had your own set of standards. A lot of it does mirror Henry County just because there's a lot of shared access points. But making sure that you can collect the traffic impact studies, the access requirements, that true design and construction of the roadways, the visibility at the intersection. [2:35:46, 2:35:56]: section. Once again, pedestrian access, street names, street lights, all of that is now going to be truly incorporated in the city code. [2:35:57, 2:36:17]: And then when it comes to other updates, these are really kind of what I just kind of call housekeeping items. You had several references to like a municipal planning commission and a county planning commission. So we really made sure that you only had the one reference. And then previously the board must have been called the Planning Advisory Board, Zoning Advisory Board. [2:36:17, 2:36:30]: advisory board, something like that, we found some language that just needed to be removed. And then of course we updated your definition sections based upon the changes that were made in the code itself. [2:36:31, 2:36:51]: Um, so through this process here, we are we are really right here in that public hearing process. Um, but the document is is not final. That's one of the reasons that we're here tonight to actually seek any final comment that you all may have as the board or that the residents may have. Um so we will update those. [2:36:51, 2:37:03]: accordingly, get it back to the city to review. We're kind of in that first public hearing process right now, and then it'll move forward through that city council adoption process next month. [2:37:06, 2:37:09]: So that's kind of it here on the zoning code. [2:37:10, 2:37:11]: I know we have the map next. [2:37:19, 2:37:21]: Yes, I'll read that record. [2:37:22, 2:37:32]: Um official zoning map. We're we're not we're not ready. We're not ready yet, Linda. We need to to handle the public hearing for the uh UDC. Um Mr. Thibodeau. [2:37:32, 2:37:40]: Um if you would, if there is any um discussion by the Planning Commission, any questions, we can move into that and then [2:37:41, 2:37:45]: I will handle it just as we did for the previous rezoning and comp plan. [2:37:46, 2:37:46]: Amendment. [2:37:47, 2:37:50]: uh for public comment for those who want to speak. [2:37:50, 2:37:51]: For [2:37:51, 2:37:52]: Or against. [2:37:53, 2:37:55]: Commission is here. Com comments. [2:37:56, 2:37:58]: Permission to speak, Mr. Thibodeau, this is Kathleen Nelson. [2:37:59, 2:38:01]: Yes, Mr. Nelson, go ahead. [2:38:01, 2:38:07]: Uh and I just wanted to clarify um when we had our little breakout session. [2:38:08, 2:38:10]: If someone [2:38:10, 2:38:19]: um you know has already been established once you put this plan in place, they'll just be grandfathered in or will will certain areas be required to make changes? [2:38:20, 2:38:40]: Um, sure. So there are transition rules. So if a property is fully developed and they're not coming into the city for any type of permitting, or let's just say they recently rent through their land development process or maybe a rezoning process, they will continue on their original path as they were approved to get that full. [2:38:40, 2:39:00]: Construction. So in this case, the new codes and the new requirements when come into effect when you have new rezoning cases, when the staff actually sees, let's just say, new building permits or new land development permits that just weren't in the process before. But we did build in that anything that's [2:39:00, 2:39:03]: the process now would still just follow the current zoning. [2:39:03, 2:39:07]: um code until it's actually um completed construction. [2:39:10, 2:39:14]: Mr Chibado, Mr Chairman, may I please? [2:39:15, 2:39:16]: Yes, go ahead. [2:39:16, 2:39:31]: question um in those instances well first of all thank you this is very i'm excited about this this is very detailed very thorough and i think it's gonna be a great benefit for the city and the people that wishes to do business with the city [2:39:32, 2:39:37]: But I wanna ask in in those cases where you consolidated certain codes. [2:39:40, 2:39:43]: Well,'cause I'm concerned how that's gonna look on the map. [2:39:43, 2:39:45]: Those those that would disappear. [2:39:46, 2:39:48]: Will they have to go before zoning? [2:39:49, 2:39:52]: change or would that once was the city? [2:39:52, 2:39:57]: The city council approved this, they will automatically migrate to the new [2:39:59, 2:40:02]: Sure. Without having to go through a zoning here. [2:40:02, 2:40:22]: Well, that's correct. That's why you actually have two items on the agenda for this tonight. So the one, the first one is actually the zoning text. So that is all of it written out. And then the second one is actually the zoning map. So what we did is we actually went in and already re-identified all of those parcels of land to [2:40:22, 2:40:27]: to the proper zoning. So when you adapt both of them together, then they match. [2:40:28, 2:40:39]: So the the owner of the property won't have to do anything. The owner of the property won't have to do anything. Won't have to do anything. Very good. Next question. Uh and this is probably more directed to Ms. Johnson. [2:40:40, 2:40:45]: Um because I'm aware that in certain situations there have been [2:40:46, 2:40:59]: uh subdivisions for example that's been uh permitted to build single family residential homes and at some point along the way [2:41:00, 2:41:02]: They all became rentals. [2:41:03, 2:41:23]: And and and I'm just curious, is is is zoning code a proper mechanism to because I didn't hear anything or have seen anything that addressed that issue. I I wonder if the zoning code is is a proper mechanism to to address that issue. [2:41:23, 2:41:30]: Uh the uh the maybe the city has other mechanisms in place already or developing. But I I'm just curious to hear. [2:41:31, 2:41:33]: how that fits into what we're doing with the UDC. [2:41:34, 2:41:37]: Great, great question, Mr. Damas. So [2:41:37, 2:41:48]: This is a conversation actually that Casey and I have kind of gone back and forth on. And we just decided we're going to, you know, take it to our attorneys to determine what we can do because [2:41:48, 2:41:52]: if we do put uh just kind of give background for everybody. [2:41:53, 2:42:02]: There has been a moratorium which is currently in place for single family homes to be built as for rental purpose. [2:42:03, 2:42:05]: you know, subdivisions. [2:42:05, 2:42:08]: And one of the things that we ran into. [2:42:08, 2:42:14]: um as far as making this a code is we don't want to violate the Fair Housing Act. [2:42:15, 2:42:23]: So that is really our benchmark, our our standard to ensure that we're not encroaching upon a federal uh [2:42:23, 2:42:24]: federal standard. [2:42:25, 2:42:28]: So we well what we what we can and will do. [2:42:29, 2:42:36]: is um I'll bring this specifically, Casey and I'll bring this specifically to our attorneys to address how we can [2:42:36, 2:42:38]: Manage it um [2:42:39, 2:42:43]: Because there's there's a couple of schools of thought regarding it. [2:42:43, 2:42:44]: And um [2:42:45, 2:42:49]: At the end of the day, I think on the from the city's perspective, from the staff perspective. [2:42:49, 2:42:53]: We want the properties to be kept up and well maintained. [2:42:54, 2:42:59]: however they're being utilized as long as they meet the zoning. But we will again [2:42:59, 2:43:07]: Make sure that we're not, you know, if we can put some stipulation in the code regarding this. And this is not just a stock bridge concern. [2:43:07, 2:43:10]: So I think it's very astute of you to bring this up because it is [2:43:10, 2:43:17]: really been around Henry jurisdictions and really a national it's a national conversation. [2:43:17, 2:43:19]: So um because a lot of [2:43:20, 2:43:25]: Um several home builders are shifting to this model because they have a market for this model. [2:43:26, 2:43:33]: So um we will continue to have those conversations with the attorneys. And also we're have we have conversations with our building community. [2:43:34, 2:43:36]: Because they ultimately are gonna be affected. [2:43:37, 2:43:39]: one way or another by these standards. [2:43:39, 2:43:43]: And we do want to hear we do want to hear from them on some thoughts. [2:43:43, 2:43:46]: And concerns that they have too, but in this particular case. [2:43:47, 2:43:52]: we would have to just make sure that we're not violating a federal mandate, a federal standard. [2:43:53, 2:43:58]: So I definitely can get this back to the attorneys and follow up with you and the and the board. [2:43:58, 2:44:00]: Regarding that item. [2:44:02, 2:44:02]: Thank you. [2:44:03, 2:44:04]: Absolutely. [2:44:16, 2:44:20]: Mr. Thibodeau, any other comments from the from the Planning Commission? [2:44:21, 2:44:24]: No, I'm just absorbing it all in. Just uh [2:44:25, 2:44:29]: really listened to a lot of it's coming from the development when we were [2:44:30, 2:44:33]: doing the Jodico project, but I'm also happy that uh [2:44:34, 2:44:40]: We're bringing things together where it would be easily processed and looked at and whether or not it meets the [2:44:41, 2:44:46]: zoning or not, which is real good. I I think we're moving up to the twenty first century. [2:44:46, 2:44:47]: Yeah. [2:44:48, 2:44:49]: Thank you for that. [2:44:50, 2:44:53]: Okay. [2:45:00, 2:45:03]: Well, Miss Johnson, this item requires a vote. Am I correct? [2:45:03, 2:45:08]: Yes, sir. It does. However, we do need to open it up for public comment. [2:45:08, 2:45:10]: Афосуально. [2:45:11, 2:45:14]: And those who are in opposition, and I'm looking through. [2:45:15, 2:45:18]: Um I am so we would just need to have a [2:45:18, 2:45:19]: Um [2:45:20, 2:45:23]: Uh I open up the public hearing for those who are in favor. [2:45:24, 2:45:30]: And then I'll I'm checking to see if we have anybody with a hand raised or a question in the chat. [2:45:32, 2:45:35]: I think we should go ahead and open it up to the public meeting and uh [2:45:36, 2:45:37]: Go ahead and install it. [2:45:38, 2:45:38]: I don't know. [2:45:38, 2:45:40]: See what they think about it. [2:45:41, 2:45:41]: Okay. [2:45:46, 2:45:50]: I do not see anyone who has a raised hand. [2:45:50, 2:45:55]: Um for this section, this portion. So we at this point do not have. [2:45:55, 2:46:03]: Anyone to speak in favor of the request? And we can open it up for those who want to speak in opposition. [2:46:10, 2:46:14]: should go ahead and open it up if we have anybody that's in opposition of it. [2:46:17, 2:46:18]: We do not. [2:46:21, 2:46:23]: So I think we're ready for call to call for motion, sir. [2:46:26, 2:46:29]: Okay, I'd like to present a motion that we [2:46:30, 2:46:31]: Make the new changes for the [2:46:32, 2:46:33]: zoning and planning. [2:46:33, 2:46:35]: Doctors do changing. [2:46:35, 2:46:36]: Changes that we [2:46:37, 2:46:39]: to more streamline the uh [2:46:39, 2:46:41]: Process for zoning and planning. [2:46:44, 2:46:55]: I will second that. Mrs. Mr Mr. Chairman, um, if if you don't mind, I think your motion probably should have some wording in it about [2:46:57, 2:46:58]: The unified development code. [2:47:01, 2:47:02]: Because that's what we're voting on. [2:47:03, 2:47:05]: I'd like to present that. [2:47:05, 2:47:06]: A unified [2:47:07, 2:47:08]: Planning code. [2:47:09, 2:47:10]: Combining it. [2:47:10, 2:47:12]: And making it streamlined to easy. [2:47:13, 2:47:14]: access and understand. [2:47:16, 2:47:18]: That that would be my motion, present it. [2:47:18, 2:47:19]: Is there a second? [2:47:24, 2:47:28]: Mr. Plashon has seconded. I was just asking you to correct the verbiage. [2:47:30, 2:47:31]: I did. [2:47:32, 2:47:33]: Well, we're ready to vote. [2:47:34, 2:47:36]: Yes. All in favor? [2:47:36, 2:47:37]: Say aye. [2:47:37, 2:47:38]: Hi. [2:47:38, 2:47:38]: Bye. [2:47:39, 2:47:41]: Arnold Old opposed. [2:47:43, 2:47:44]: There's none opposed. [2:47:45, 2:47:45]: And [2:47:45, 2:47:47]: Of eyes carried. [2:47:49, 2:47:51]: Awesome. Thank you very much. [2:47:52, 2:47:58]: All right, if we're move if we're ready to move to the next item. Um Linda, if you'll read the next item into the record. [2:48:01, 2:48:01]: Yes. [2:48:02, 2:48:03]: Official zoning map. [2:48:03, 2:48:07]: City of Startbridge Planning Commission and the City of Startridge Mayor and City Council. [2:48:08, 2:48:09]: We'll review the proposed [2:48:09, 2:48:12]: Official zoning map to be amended. [2:48:12, 2:48:15]: In conjunction with the unified development code UDC. [2:48:15, 2:48:20]: Which includes the city zoning ordinance. This item will run concurrently with the UDC. [2:48:23, 2:48:33]: Thank you. So once again, you just uh thank you because you just recommended approval of our text. And so now we have the zone map. [2:48:33, 2:48:53]: Um, so I know Miss Bruca and her team are working on really creating a digital zoning map. So I'll give you kind of a little geeky, nerdy background to this. Um this all lives in a digital world. Um, but for purposes here today and of course making it easier to understand. [2:48:53, 2:49:13]: We kind of pulled all of those different elements out for you all tonight. But I do believe in the short near future, you will be able to log online and play with it yourself, typing in the addresses, and you will actually stumble across these different layers. So this one right here is the true zoning map with all of the new districts that we discussed. [2:49:13, 2:49:33]: Keeping your residential colors more of that orange to the or the yellow to kind of that orange-ish brown tone, moving into those commercial corridors, which are going to be your pinks through your reds, your office institutional is going to be the lighter view, that new downtown development district. [2:49:33, 2:49:44]: is kind of the, I guess it's a little bit of a darker blue. Your industrial Dixtrix will have that purple hone and then the PUD will kind of have that teal color. [2:49:44, 2:50:04]: Um, and then just you saw it once before, but what also goes hand in hand on those digital files when you would click on it in the future would be whether the property does or does not fall in an overlay district. So in this one, you can see the parkway mixed use. That's more of the pink tones following the interstate, and then that downtown village overlay. [2:50:04, 2:50:10]: relay is really where your city center is, where the city hall, the amphitheater, and the downtown area are. [2:50:13, 2:50:15]: You probably want to see that one a little more. [2:50:19, 2:50:20]: Awesome. [2:50:20, 2:50:24]: Thank you, Casey, and so Mr. Tibetou. Um we again [2:50:25, 2:50:25]: [10225.6, 10226.1]: Mm-hmm. [2:50:27, 2:50:30]: You got it. Opening up for um [2:50:31, 2:50:33]: for public comment, uh as it is a public hearing. [2:50:34, 2:50:36]: Uh, for folks who are in [2:50:37, 2:50:39]: Um in favor of the request. [2:50:41, 2:50:43]: I'd like to open it up for public. [2:50:43, 2:50:44]: Uh [2:50:45, 2:50:46]: Concerns. [2:50:50, 2:50:52]: Do we have anybody that [2:50:52, 2:50:56]: Yes, or we do not we do not have anyone who is [2:50:56, 2:51:00]: looking to speak in favor of this request, um, we would need to [2:51:00, 2:51:03]: Open up public hearing for those who are in opposition. [2:51:03, 2:51:05]: I'd like to open up for those. [2:51:05, 2:51:07]: Uh, who are here in opposition. [2:51:07, 2:51:08]: Public. [2:51:10, 2:51:10]: Do we have any? [2:51:12, 2:51:13]: We do not. [2:51:16, 2:51:20]: All right, I think we're ready to close the public hearing portion. [2:51:20, 2:51:23]: And um make a motion. [2:51:26, 2:51:29]: Unless there is further discussion by the council, of course. [2:51:30, 2:51:34]: Now this is not an item we vote no. This is just presentation, right? [2:51:35, 2:51:40]: This is an item that we would vote on. Um it goes hand in hand with the what was [2:51:40, 2:51:52]: kind of shown to you as far as the new zoning districts, allowing the new uses throughout the city. So this is just a formality of the UDC that you already approved. [2:51:53, 2:51:54]: Okay. [2:51:54, 2:51:58]: Then I I guess the next move motion would be that we'll join the meeting. [2:52:00, 2:52:03]: Well we still need you still need a motion to approve the [2:52:03, 2:52:09]: Oh yes, that's what I was asking. Yes, yes, yes, yes, you're correct. Oh okay. [2:52:09, 2:52:13]: Then I I would like to present a motion that we [2:52:13, 2:52:15]: Uh approve this what is it? You [2:52:16, 2:52:16]: Uh [2:52:17, 2:52:18]: The official zoning map. [2:52:18, 2:52:21]: Yeah, the official zoning map for the city of Stockbridge. [2:52:23, 2:52:23]: Oh. [2:52:24, 2:52:25]: Do I have a second? [2:52:26, 2:52:27]: I second that. [2:52:32, 2:52:33]: All in favor? [2:52:35, 2:52:37]: Hey. Hi. [2:52:39, 2:52:41]: All those opposed? [2:52:42, 2:52:43]: Yeah, I just have it. [2:52:45, 2:52:46]: The motion passed. [2:52:47, 2:52:48]: Thank you very much. [2:52:49, 2:52:49]: Wonderful. [2:52:51, 2:53:01]: Awesome. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, uh, Planning Commission members. Um the the next the thank you because you you guys have have worked really hard and I I have to give a [2:53:02, 2:53:08]: Super, super, duper kudos to um my team for really taking the time going line by line. [2:53:08, 2:53:12]: through this document with the consultants to make sure that we are [2:53:13, 2:53:16]: In compliance on the state and federal sides. [2:53:16, 2:53:30]: Um, and making sure that we are opening up our our borders in a reasonable way, which still has the standards that we hold dear, like JoeDo design guidelines and creating an opportunity for downtown development. [2:53:31, 2:53:47]: Um, that is comparable to other downtowns in the Metro Atlanta area. So thank you so very much. Um, I wanted to just give a couple quick quick updates while you guys still have some bandwidth for me. Um, so um the Bridges and Jodico project, which you saw was at the south end. [2:53:47, 2:54:02]: of the zoning map. Again, and thank you, Casey and Nicole, for um getting all this together for us. And we'll be talking with you guys probably tomorrow morning to kind of wrap up any updates or changes. Wonderful job team. [2:54:02, 2:54:09]: So um the Bridges of Jodico project is um about a hundred and forty two or so acres. [2:54:10, 2:54:13]: There is a uh fifteen or so acre property. [2:54:13, 2:54:33]: That a consultant is coming in and a builder is coming in and building about 306 multifamily units with mixed use on the bottom level. It really has a really cool contemporary feel, but has those wide sidewalks, street trees, street uh lamps. [2:54:33, 2:54:34]: Okay. [2:54:34, 2:54:41]: and provides as a catalyst site or catalyst project for bridges at Joe Dakota continue building out. [2:54:42, 2:54:54]: I want to keep you all abreast of that. They've submitted for their land disturbance permit and their building permits. So we are on the final review for their land disturbance permit and hope to issue those within the next week or so. [2:54:54, 2:54:59]: and then we'll be doing our final review on the actual building materials themselves. [2:55:00, 2:55:03]: Next, the amphitheater, as you all know, our first um [2:55:04, 2:55:17]: a formal uh concert will be this Saturday, which will be Miss Gladys Knight and Miss Patty Fabel. Um it was sold out literally, I think in two or three hours when it was put out online. [2:55:17, 2:55:20]: Um, but it's going to be an interesting um night. [2:55:21, 2:55:25]: And I believe it's gonna be televised. So please keep your eye out for that. [2:55:25, 2:55:26]: Um [2:55:27, 2:55:28]: In late October [2:55:29, 2:55:31]: Uh as you were looking at the zoning map. [2:55:32, 2:55:37]: And you and you see where the city of Stockbridge city limits are versus Henry County. [2:55:37, 2:55:40]: We have to think about okay, where do we? [2:55:40, 2:55:45]: Where do we have holes? So if I do I drop off the face of Stockbridge, city of Stockbridge Earth. [2:55:46, 2:55:53]: Where do we need to pick up properties to move into the city? So we're looking at annexation opportunities. [2:55:53, 2:55:59]: And and talking with some of those property owners the lat latter part of October. [2:55:59, 2:56:19]: so that we can start the conversation with property owners, take a look at their property, see what their interest is in annexing, and move forward. Of course, the police department is process is underway. So there's a lot of really wonderful and amazing things happening in our city. And I just wanted to commend you all for your service. [2:56:19, 2:56:22]: for your continued support and um [2:56:22, 2:56:27]: Just you know, reaching out to me if you have questions. I'm always available to you. [2:56:27, 2:56:32]: um anytime day or night weekends i'm always on so please feel free [2:56:32, 2:56:34]: to call or text me, email me. [2:56:35, 2:56:45]: Um and again, appreciate my team for all that they've done to bring all this together. And I appreciate you all for the the tough reading you that time reading you had. [2:56:46, 2:56:54]: With this document, but I'm very proud to have moved this forward. And we'll be looking forward to going to the city council on October the 11th. [2:56:54, 2:56:56]: for their approval as well. [2:56:57, 2:57:01]: So um I don't have anything additional. So I think we're at the end of our agenda. [2:57:02, 2:57:05]: And we would need a motion to adjourn. [2:57:06, 2:57:09]: Yes, I'd like to present a motion that we adjourn the meeting. [2:57:10, 2:57:11]: For the planning zone. [2:57:12, 2:57:14]: Do I have a second? [2:57:15, 2:57:16]: I second that. [2:57:17, 2:57:18]: All in favor? [2:57:19, 2:57:20]: Uh [2:57:20, 2:57:20]: Right. [2:57:21, 2:57:22]: All those opposed? [2:57:23, 2:57:24]: That's have it. [2:57:25, 2:57:26]: The meeting's closed. [2:57:27, 2:57:27]: Thank you. [2:57:28, 2:57:34]: Thank you very much, Kerman. Thanks for everybody. Good night. Good night. Thank you. Bye bye.

--- title: Special Called Meeting date: 2021-09-20 source: 2021-09-20_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:04:30, 0:04:31]: How you doing, Mr. Bond? [0:04:34, 0:04:36]: Mayor Ford, doing great, sir. How are you? [0:04:36, 0:04:39]: Oh, just fine. Just fine. [0:04:40, 0:04:48]: Last time we had a meeting it was just you and I for a brief moment. Then everybody started Yeah, yeah. Everybody was dragging. No problem. [0:04:50, 0:04:50]: Mm. [0:06:55, 0:06:55]: Good evening. [0:06:58, 0:07:01]: Uh evening to you, Councilman Barber, Councilman Thomas, how y'all doing? [0:08:06, 0:08:07]: It's holiday. How you doing there? [0:08:08, 0:08:11]: Um Will sir, how are you today? [0:08:23, 0:08:24]: Hello, let's see. [0:08:33, 0:08:33]: [653.6, 653.9]: [0:11:34, 0:11:35]: I do a mayor pro tem. [0:11:36, 0:11:38]: Good, how you doing, Mira? [0:11:40, 0:11:41]: Good, good, good. [0:11:43, 0:11:45]: Hey done, Councilman Barber. [0:11:46, 0:11:47]: Miss Holiday. [0:11:47, 0:11:49]: Mapro Tim, how are you? [0:11:49, 0:11:50]: Good, good. [0:11:52, 0:11:53]: Got your emails. [0:11:53, 0:12:00]: Good. Did I sign did I sign the card correctly? You did. Thank you. [0:12:00, 0:12:05]: I certainly want to get those plus deposits. Yeah, we gotta deposit it. That's right. [0:12:06, 0:12:06]: Yeah. [0:12:10, 0:12:13]: All right. You all right, Miss Barber? You good? [0:12:15, 0:12:16]: Can you hear me? [0:12:20, 0:12:22]: Yes, I'm doing fine. How about you? [0:12:23, 0:12:24]: Good, good. [0:12:24, 0:12:26]: Hello, how's everybody? [0:12:26, 0:12:27]: Well, how are you? [0:12:28, 0:12:29]: Good, good, good. [0:12:31, 0:12:33]: Uh are we live yet, Mayor? [0:12:36, 0:12:41]: No, sir, we're not uh live. It's just record re recording though, but it's not live on Facebook, but it is recording. [0:12:42, 0:12:47]: Okay, yeah, I just want to mention that um, you know, today is my daughter's birthday. [0:12:48, 0:12:51]: Uh I got a first cousin birthday and then [0:12:51, 0:13:00]: Uh I lost a first cousin uh last night. So it's been a rule it's been a roller coaster of emotion for me. Um [0:13:01, 0:13:05]: You know, we we sort of grew up together, my father's brother's son. [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: But you know [0:13:07, 0:13:09]: You know how life goes, you know. [0:13:10, 0:13:12]: The Lord giveth and he taketh, so [0:13:13, 0:13:14]: That's that's that's part of life. [0:13:15, 0:13:32]: Well, please also keep our deputy uh Randy Rainey in your prayer. She lost her father today. Wow. Okay. Okay. So didn't know that. Well, yeah, condolences, definitely. Wow. Prayers with her, her family. Absolutely. [0:13:34, 0:13:39]: Geez. It can you talk about how how did that happen or is it sudden or do you know? [0:13:39, 0:13:43]: Um she let me know that um [0:13:43, 0:13:47]: Today I know he had been ill and she told me that he was placed on [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: Life support. [0:13:51, 0:13:51]: Um [0:13:53, 0:13:56]: She left a little early today. She had come in earlier. [0:13:57, 0:14:00]: Mm and she left and she said that um [0:14:02, 0:14:06]: I don't know if we should be talking about this. This is a personnel. [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: I mean [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: Yeah. [0:14:09, 0:14:17]: It's uh we're recording, but we're not it's not on Facebook Live. But we do have to go to Facebook Live though here shortly. Matter of fact, we have a um [0:14:17, 0:14:20]: We've got a quorum, but we don't have our attorneys. [0:14:20, 0:14:22]: Right at this point. [0:14:22, 0:14:27]: But Mr. Bond, I know you can hear me out there, sir. If you can go to Facebook Live, please. [0:14:38, 0:14:42]: We're going now. Oh, thank you very much. And Mr. Washington's coming in. [0:14:45, 0:14:46]: And Mr. Berry. [0:14:48, 0:14:49]: Woo, hold on. [0:14:50, 0:14:50]: Okay. [0:14:51, 0:14:52]: Welcome gentlemen. [0:14:52, 0:14:54]: Ms. Gantt, m Mr. Blount, welcome. [0:14:55, 0:14:59]: Okay, so we now have a full compliment. Oh no, Renee Wheeler. [0:15:01, 0:15:02]: Is missing. [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: There she here she comes. Okay. [0:15:16, 0:15:28]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have actually I have six o'clock, so I'd like to call the special call meeting to order. Um on that note, um, wait a minute now. Uh Mr. Bond, live Facebook Live, please. [0:15:33, 0:15:45]: Okay, thank you very much. Okay, I believe I still have, is it still six? Yeah, I got six oh one. Okay, six oh one. I'd like to call a special call meeting to order of twenty September twenty uh twenty-one. [0:15:45, 0:15:49]: Uh on that note invocation, uh Mr. Thomas, please. [0:15:50, 0:15:50]: Thank you. [0:15:51, 0:15:52]: Let us pray. [0:15:54, 0:15:58]: Oh heavenly Father, we thank you for your love. [0:15:58, 0:16:00]: And blessings. [0:16:00, 0:16:03]: You bestow upon us each and every day. [0:16:04, 0:16:06]: We ask that you give hope. [0:16:06, 0:16:08]: To the hopeless. [0:16:08, 0:16:09]: And here. [0:16:10, 0:16:11]: To the helpless. [0:16:12, 0:16:13]: We rejoice. [0:16:14, 0:16:17]: And the opportunity to show our love by [0:16:18, 0:16:20]: Soin a seed of service. [0:16:22, 0:16:25]: Father, we ask that you like to favor [0:16:25, 0:16:28]: Of Lord our God be upon us. [0:16:29, 0:16:30]: and e stablish [0:16:31, 0:16:32]: The work of our hands. [0:16:33, 0:16:36]: Open the right doors for the city, Father. [0:16:36, 0:16:38]: And close the wrong doors. [0:16:40, 0:16:42]: Let no circumstances hold back the [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: Your blessings. [0:16:44, 0:16:46]: For our city. [0:16:47, 0:16:49]: Let us walk in your favor. [0:16:50, 0:16:51]: And goodness. [0:16:52, 0:16:56]: Let your light shine on the city of Stark Bridge and that we will open [0:16:56, 0:16:57]: The right doors. [0:16:59, 0:17:00]: Father, we ask that you [0:17:01, 0:17:02]: Естебліш [0:17:03, 0:17:04]: The work of our hands. [0:17:05, 0:17:07]: And we pray that you make [0:17:07, 0:17:08]: Our days. [0:17:09, 0:17:10]: Personal foods. [0:17:11, 0:17:14]: And bring into fulfillment [0:17:15, 0:17:17]: All you have given us. [0:17:17, 0:17:19]: To do in these days. [0:17:20, 0:17:22]: We ask that you plant. [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: Our footstep firmly. [0:17:25, 0:17:27]: In your goodness and favor. [0:17:28, 0:17:30]: Give us the heart of wisdom. [0:17:31, 0:17:34]: Make us strong by your great favor. [0:17:34, 0:17:35]: And Grace. [0:17:36, 0:17:37]: And most heavenly father. [0:17:38, 0:17:40]: Let the light of your words [0:17:40, 0:17:42]: Ремай і наш. [0:17:43, 0:17:45]: Лети говен ус. [0:17:45, 0:17:46]: And guide us. [0:17:47, 0:17:48]: By your Holy Spirit. [0:17:49, 0:17:52]: Летас ремай стедфа. [0:17:53, 0:17:54]: For the betterment. [0:17:55, 0:17:57]: Of the city of Stockbridge. [0:17:58, 0:17:59]: This is your service. [0:18:00, 0:18:00]: Prayer. [0:18:01, 0:18:02]: And in Jesus' name. [0:18:03, 0:18:04]: We all said [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: Amen. [0:18:06, 0:18:09]: All right, ladies and let's stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:18:12, 0:18:25]: Pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America and to the Republic for which one nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for all. [0:18:29, 0:18:30]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:18:31, 0:18:32]: Mayor Ford? Present. [0:18:33, 0:18:34]: May approach him Alexander. [0:18:35, 0:18:35]: Was it? [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:18:37, 0:18:37]: Is it? [0:18:38, 0:18:39]: Councilman blank. [0:18:39, 0:18:40]: Present. [0:18:40, 0:18:41]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:18:42, 0:18:44]: Present. Councilman Thomas. [0:18:44, 0:18:45]: President. [0:18:45, 0:18:46]: Mayor Ford, you have a corn. [0:18:47, 0:18:52]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. Uh Council, I need a motion to uh adopt the agenda, please. [0:18:53, 0:18:55]: So a second. [0:18:56, 0:18:57]: A second. [0:18:57, 0:19:00]: Mr. Thomas seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [0:19:01, 0:19:02]: All right. [0:19:03, 0:19:06]: Okay. Mr. Blount, did you vote? [0:19:08, 0:19:15]: He votes okay, he's he's he's it's unanimous vote. Okay. Uh at this point I need a motion to go into executive session, please. [0:19:15, 0:19:17]: Uh yes we are so [0:19:18, 0:19:22]: Mayor. Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion to go in executive session for [0:19:22, 0:19:23]: Personnel issue. [0:19:24, 0:19:24]: Uh [0:19:25, 0:19:26]: For the city. [0:19:26, 0:19:27]: Okay, later. [0:19:28, 0:19:29]: Yeah, go ahead. Is there a second? [0:19:30, 0:19:33]: I second. Mr. Thomas second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:19:35, 0:19:52]: Okay. That's great. Namus decision as well. Okay, folks. We'll see you in executive session. We'll get a different link to get in the executive session and have handle our personnel matters. Uh Mr. Who's sending that? Is that you, Mr. Bond? Is that Mr. U, Vanessa, sending the links there? Okay. Vanessa, send everybody a link, please. Appreciate it. See you on about five minutes or so. Thank you. [0:19:56, 0:19:58]: Okay. Thank you. [0:20:01, 0:20:05]: Ms. Bom, when we get her back in, we have to go back to Facebook Facebook Live again as well, sir. [0:20:05, 0:20:07]: Okay, sounds good. Thank you. [0:20:11, 0:20:13]: You doing all right, Miss Kent? [0:20:14, 0:20:15]: I'm doing great. [0:20:16, 0:20:16]: Okay. [0:20:21, 0:20:21]: Good deal. [0:20:42, 0:20:44]: Welcome back there, Mr. Blount. [0:21:19, 0:21:22]: Welcome back there, Mr. Thomas, Miss Holliday. [0:21:25, 0:21:25]: Yes, sir. [0:21:35, 0:21:38]: Thank you, uh Mr. Bond. I appreciate that. [0:21:40, 0:21:42]: Ladies and gentlemen, we're back on Facebook Live. [0:21:54, 0:21:56]: We'll wait till the rest of the council and attorneys join us. [0:22:23, 0:22:25]: I'm looking crazy. [0:22:27, 0:22:27]: Well. [0:22:46, 0:22:52]: We have seven oh one. I was Miss Holiday, I would have met there we go. Yes, you uh no never mind. And Miss Shane is okay. We're good. Got it. [0:22:54, 0:22:55]: How you doing, Mr. Trammer? [0:22:57, 0:22:58]: Good evening, Mayor Ford. How are you, sir? [0:22:59, 0:23:00]: It's fine. [0:23:11, 0:23:15]: Okay. We got a few more folks that need to join us. [0:23:20, 0:23:24]: Mr Chairman, how you doing sir? This is the council of Thomas. [0:23:26, 0:23:29]: Councilman Thomas, good evening, sir. And good evening to the rest of the council as well. [0:23:30, 0:23:31]: Good evening. [0:23:31, 0:23:32]: Thank you for being here. [0:23:33, 0:23:34]: It's my honor. [0:24:19, 0:24:22]: Okay, um our we're waiting for our attorneys and Mr. Knighton. [0:24:26, 0:24:28]: And Miss Wheeler, okay, she's in. [0:24:34, 0:24:37]: Actually Mayor Pro Tem is missing at this point as well. [0:24:45, 0:24:47]: Okay, Mr. Washington. [0:24:57, 0:24:58]: Mr. Berry. [0:25:35, 0:25:36]: Mr. Knighton. [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: Okay. [0:25:53, 0:25:55]: We're now missing still one. [0:26:40, 0:26:41]: [1610.1, 1610.4]: Mm. [0:26:51, 0:26:55]: Mayor, um we have a forum and we have our attorneys. [0:26:55, 0:26:58]: And we're supposed to be trying to sell them saying w where do we wait now? [0:26:59, 0:26:59]: Yeah. [0:27:00, 0:27:02]: Well, we're waiting on one more member, sir. [0:27:02, 0:27:07]: Well let's make it if we will make this consistent when other members aren't here, that would be great. [0:27:09, 0:27:10]: Okay. [0:27:10, 0:27:12]: I I appreciate your your comments, sir. [0:27:20, 0:27:22]: Mr. Knight, if you can do a cursey call. [0:27:24, 0:27:26]: The pro Tam see what he's when he's coming in here. [0:27:37, 0:27:40]: Okay, here we go. I think I d here we go. All right. [0:27:41, 0:27:46]: Mr. Goodnight, I got it, sir. Thank you for your service. Appreciate it. [0:27:46, 0:27:50]: Did I exceed the ten minutes? I thought we had ten minutes. [0:27:51, 0:27:58]: Um Mr. Okay, Council, I need a motion to end the executive session, please. So moved. Okay, is there a second? [0:27:59, 0:28:04]: I second Mr. Thomas raise his hand. Mr. Thomas uh second that all in favor, please indicate. [0:28:06, 0:28:12]: All right. Okay, so you now decision. Now I need a motion to reconvene a special call meeting, please. [0:28:12, 0:28:13]: So move. [0:28:13, 0:28:17]: Ms. Ms. Kant, give Ms. Kant uh a second. [0:28:18, 0:28:27]: You can't, Miss Gan, you can't make a move here in a second. Okay, you got me. Okay. I need a second, please. Miss Barber seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [0:28:28, 0:28:40]: Okay, unanimous decision. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have a we had a zechul sess uh excuse me, a zekar session for the special call meeting. We have a results of that particular uh uh zeker session to uh make an announcement at this point. [0:28:41, 0:28:42]: Um [0:28:42, 0:28:46]: Uh in this aspect we need to have a vote. Mr. Knighton, please. [0:28:47, 0:28:49]: Yes, Mayor and Council, I wanted to [0:28:50, 0:28:52]: I bring forth to you uh Mr. Frank Tramer. [0:28:53, 0:29:00]: Um, for the position of police chief uh for the city of Stockbridge, Mr. Tremor has extensive law enforcement. [0:29:00, 0:29:03]: Experience including being uh депуті chief. [0:29:04, 0:29:05]: Of uh Georgia Tick. [0:29:06, 0:29:10]: And also we said previous experiences in the Atlanta metro area, including the city of Atlanta. [0:29:11, 0:29:14]: And also um city of Sandy Springs. [0:29:14, 0:29:19]: Um Mr. Tramor again uh is a decorated law enforcement professional. [0:29:19, 0:29:22]: Um and um I'm bringing forward [0:29:22, 0:29:24]: Mr. Tramer, to you. [0:29:24, 0:29:26]: uh for your confirmation. [0:29:26, 0:29:29]: As police chief of the city of Stockbridge. [0:29:30, 0:29:31]: Is there is there a motion for this? [0:29:32, 0:29:34]: Mayor so moved. Okay, is there a second? [0:29:35, 0:29:38]: Mr. Thomas Seconds that all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:29:41, 0:29:42]: All pose. [0:29:43, 0:29:56]: Mayor, I oppose only because I disagree with us not discussing with the citizens and also based off of the most recent updated 2019 uh feasibility police study on page 30. [0:29:56, 0:29:58]: That states that's not something we should be doing. [0:29:58, 0:30:15]: Okay, okay, Mr. Blount, you abstain or opposed. No, no, I I would concur. I thought after a first and a second, as you asked for any questions, which you didn't ask for. Well, what it is, sir, is that any questions should have been discussed in execular session. That's what exactly sessions for, sir. [0:30:16, 0:30:31]: Well, the presentation well if we if we change stuff and as we do at this council periodically, uh I I would like to say my my vote is no because of that feasibility study, because there's no plan right now in place, because the citizens are unaware of what's going on and [0:30:32, 0:30:43]: And and uh know the ins and out of what we're doing. So uh I'm pretty sure Mr. Tramer is uh fine and uh good prospect for what the city wants to do in the future. But right now, until all the uh [0:30:44, 0:30:51]: T uh I's a dot and T's across and every and and and something to support a s something systematic with how we will move forward. [0:30:52, 0:30:53]: Uh I will have to vote no. [0:30:54, 0:31:14]: All right, the the motion passed three to two. Congratulations, Mr. Tramer. Welcome to the city of Stockbridge, sir. Really appreciate the we're gonna have a great time together. You're you're gonna do well. All right. Oh, okay. Well, I did. We I did call for the vote. It's it's it I did I not call for the vote? It's three too. No, no. [0:31:13, 0:31:14]: Yes. [0:31:14, 0:31:16]: It was it was a vote. [0:31:16, 0:31:19]: The vote was three two okay now. [0:31:19, 0:31:39]: I thought okay. I'm sorry. Yeah, what was three two? Congratulations, Mr. Tramor. And attorneys, make sure you keep us straight, please. Okay? Yeah. Thank you very much. All right. Now, well how about this? We'll make it brief, folks. Anybody, Mr. Tramor, not better yet. Mr. Tramor, sir, you. Any comments? [0:31:39, 0:31:40]: Yes, you have, sir. [0:31:41, 0:31:46]: Yes, Mayor, thank you. Uh first first of all, I'd just like to say what an honor and a privilege it is to have the opportunity to [0:31:47, 0:31:52]: uh serve in this position. Um, I think first and foremost I'd like to thank God for blessing me with this opportunity. [0:31:53, 0:31:57]: To serve the city of Stockbridge and to serve its citizens as its chief of police. [0:31:57, 0:32:08]: I'd also like to thank Mr. Knighton, uh, yourself and members of the council for placing their faith and trust in my ability to fulfill this important role. And I understand that there are some concerns. [0:32:08, 0:32:11]: that were expressed by Councilwoman Gantt and also Councilman Blount. [0:32:11, 0:32:12]: Um [0:32:12, 0:32:32]: And um I I hope that uh by virtue of uh working together, we'll be able to work through some of those concerns and move forward with the full implementation of this department. And last but certainly not least, I'd just like to thank my family for the many sacrifices and support uh that they've offered. Uh one of the things that I think I've conveyed to all of you, but would like to convey publicly. [0:32:32, 0:32:38]: publicly is that I believe that policing is truly one of the highest callings and most noble professions in this world. [0:32:39, 0:32:48]: I believe that each day, every one of us that serve in the role of a police officer has a unique opportunity to help members of our community, oftentimes in their greatest need. [0:32:48, 0:33:01]: To be truly effective, I believe that policing has to be an interactive process between our police and members of the community. And I certainly hold true to the historic tradition that our police are the public and our public are the police. [0:33:01, 0:33:08]: That the police are only members of our community who are designated to give full-time attention to duties that are incumbent upon all of us, the interests of community welfare. [0:33:09, 0:33:16]: And so therefore I believe that policing should always maintain or police should always maintain a positive and collaborative relationship with our community. [0:33:17, 0:33:23]: Because the ability of our department to effectively perform its roles is really and truly dependent upon the community's approval of our existing. [0:33:24, 0:33:43]: Our actions and most certainly our behavior. And faithful and prudent execution of this tremendous trust, I see is a great responsibility. It requires a spirit of service, a spirit of integrity and accountability, as well as commitment and wise executive stewardship, which by the grace of God I promise to bring to this position. [0:33:44, 0:33:49]: And I look forward to the chance to serve the citizens of the city of Stockbridge as their chief of police. [0:33:49, 0:33:54]: I look forward to to the opportunities to meet with members of the community to understand more fully their needs. [0:33:54, 0:33:58]: uh their desires and their expectations for their police department. [0:33:58, 0:34:07]: I look forward to working with the city's leadership, with the community and law enforcement partners, as well as other stakeholders, to make this police department a reality. [0:34:07, 0:34:13]: Um as said before, I really believe that this is a i is a position of stewardship. [0:34:13, 0:34:22]: And I look forward to building the most professional police department in the state of Georgia, a department that will be committed to the principles of 21st century policing. [0:34:22, 0:34:28]: And a department that is fully committed to working in partnership with this community to create a safe and secure environment. [0:34:28, 0:34:37]: for everyone who lives, works, and plays in this great city. And again, I'd just like to thank you all for this opportunity and placing your trust in me. Thank you. [0:34:37, 0:34:57]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it wholeheartedly. And on this note, we'll make it kind of short. Any other council members for a brief moment? And in this aspect, Mr. Mr. Thomas, you unmuted. Go ahead, sir. Well, uh, I just wanted to say welcome to uh the team. Uh welcome to the uh city of Stockbridge. Uh we are [0:34:57, 0:35:10]: So uh providing that quality of life for all of our citizens for public safety. And um just glad to have you on the team to move in that direction. Thank you, sir. [0:35:10, 0:35:11]: Thank you, sir. [0:35:12, 0:35:14]: Mayor Pro Tem, you're unmuted as well. [0:35:15, 0:35:17]: Uh Mr. Tramor, I just want to say. [0:35:17, 0:35:20]: Thank you and welcome to the team in Stockbridge. [0:35:21, 0:35:23]: And uh I know you're gonna do a great job. [0:35:23, 0:35:27]: Uh setting up and establishing the police department because of your extensive [0:35:28, 0:35:28]: Record. [0:35:29, 0:35:31]: uh in training officers all over the state. [0:35:32, 0:35:41]: That was one thing that uh made me gravitate toward uh your qualifications is that you've been in the trenches and I looked at your resume in detail. [0:35:41, 0:35:50]: And the and to see that you started out in Atlanta in zone three in one of the most diverse areas in America and the challenges are are great. [0:35:50, 0:35:54]: And you uh start a are a career lawman. [0:35:54, 0:35:55]: Who has really [0:35:55, 0:35:59]: uh exemplified and and and made those wearing the beds proud. [0:36:00, 0:36:03]: You could have literally taken almost any job in America. [0:36:04, 0:36:06]: And you're taking this job uh here in Stockbridge. [0:36:07, 0:36:12]: uh in partnership with the community to be able to form the appropriate policing force. [0:36:12, 0:36:13]: uh that the community [0:36:14, 0:36:15]: uh would have. [0:36:15, 0:36:17]: I'm proud to say that we [0:36:17, 0:36:18]: Chose you. [0:36:18, 0:36:20]: Аз ар полісь чіф. [0:36:20, 0:36:22]: uh to start our department. [0:36:23, 0:36:25]: And uh understanding. [0:36:25, 0:36:36]: that uh it's a collective effort of the entire Marin Council and we feel uh confident that uh this police force in the era of social justice [0:36:36, 0:36:38]: Will be formed in the right way. [0:36:38, 0:36:41]: And it will be in partnership with the community. [0:36:42, 0:36:44]: Making sure that we have buy in. [0:36:45, 0:36:50]: from the citizens because buy-in from the citizens is how we keep the community safe. [0:36:50, 0:36:53]: And I think you mentioned that to me uh when we spoke. [0:36:55, 0:36:56]: That's probably. [0:36:56, 0:36:57]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:37:02, 0:37:04]: I didn't raise my hand, but thank you, Mayor. [0:37:04, 0:37:04]: Um [0:37:05, 0:37:06]: Welcome aboard, Mr. Chamber. [0:37:07, 0:37:09]: Uh I look forward to working with you. [0:37:09, 0:37:10]: Um [0:37:10, 0:37:15]: I am looking forward to the plans that you've already thought out. [0:37:15, 0:37:18]: Um and have provided to Mr. Knighton already. [0:37:19, 0:37:19]: So [0:37:20, 0:37:21]: Welcome aboard. [0:37:22, 0:37:26]: So thank you, thank you very much. And again to to to Mayor Pro Tem's uh point. [0:37:27, 0:37:40]: Um, this is not my police department. Uh it's not the city's police department, it's the community's police department. And they have a right to be involved in how they're policed and what their expectations are. I look forward again to partnering with members of the community to better understand that. [0:37:40, 0:37:46]: and building a police department again that's respected, appreciated, and valued by uh its constituents. [0:37:48, 0:37:51]: Mr. Knight, do you have any closing remarks before we close out this meeting at all? [0:37:54, 0:37:58]: Think I think Councilman Blount was trying to speak my mayor or [0:37:58, 0:38:01]: All right. [0:38:01, 0:38:03]: Because there are indifferences. [0:38:04, 0:38:08]: doesn't mean that there's a denial for the city to move forward. [0:38:09, 0:38:15]: And because there are indifferences, it only means that there's other ideas on the table by other council members. We're all elected bodies. [0:38:16, 0:38:21]: And that doesn't mean indifferences doesn't mean that we don't want to see the city prosper. [0:38:21, 0:38:25]: And indifference doesn't mean that we don't want to see every council member speak. [0:38:26, 0:38:29]: And differences only means that there's a difference of opinion. [0:38:30, 0:38:32]: Not about prosperity, how do we get there? [0:38:33, 0:38:36]: It's about the process and getting there. There's an indifference there. [0:38:37, 0:38:40]: The needs of the city of Stark Bridge are great. [0:38:40, 0:38:43]: And they are gonna be they are gonna be fulfilled. [0:38:44, 0:38:46]: But because there are indifferences on how we get there. [0:38:47, 0:38:51]: That doesn't mean we all don't want the same thing and that's a prosperous city. [0:38:52, 0:38:54]: So to say that I wouldn't welcome Mr. Tramer? [0:38:55, 0:38:56]: I welcome you. [0:38:56, 0:38:58]: But there are indifferences on your hire. [0:39:00, 0:39:01]: Okay. [0:39:02, 0:39:05]: Well on that note, then Mr. Anna, I imagine you have something you'd like to say as well. [0:39:06, 0:39:10]: I would. Um, I just want to congratulate Mr. Tramer. [0:39:10, 0:39:22]: I'm receiving this position. I I've spoken to Mr. Tramer. And again, I don't have a problem with the police department. I have a problem with the process. And so, Mr. Tramer, if if [0:39:22, 0:39:30]: It's the will of the council to bring you on board. I I commend you. I've already told you hands down, I think your uh resume is stellar. [0:39:31, 0:39:32]: Um [0:39:32, 0:39:33]: Their C V, the stellar. [0:39:34, 0:39:40]: Um, I think uh more so about this process. So I want to congratulate you personally. [0:39:40, 0:39:41]: On um [0:39:41, 0:39:53]: receiving this appointment as our chief of police. Um and I I still will and and please don't be offended, but I still will speak to the citizens in regards to our tax. I have to. [0:39:54, 0:39:57]: But other than that, I really hope. [0:39:57, 0:39:59]: Um and look forward to working. [0:40:00, 0:40:01]: With you particularly. [0:40:02, 0:40:10]: Mr. Knighton, sir. Any last comments before we close out? No, thank you. Thank you to the mayor and council and certainly to uh Mr. Tramor. I'm sure he will [0:40:11, 0:40:11]: Uh. [0:40:11, 0:40:18]: I hit the ground running. Um, I always defer to elected officials. I believe I saw Councilwoman Barber's hand raised. [0:40:19, 0:40:20]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:40:21, 0:40:28]: I wanted to make sure that we did, in fact, confirm Mr. Tramer's appointment. Yeah, three two vote. Yes, it was confirmed. [0:40:29, 0:40:29]: It's confirmed. [0:40:30, 0:40:33]: Ms. Holliday, can you confirm that you have that book? [0:40:36, 0:40:40]: Councilman Barber, yes, I can confirm that the uh vote was three two. [0:40:42, 0:40:44]: Mayor Chairman Alexander, Councilwoman Barber. [0:40:44, 0:40:46]: Councilman Thomas, in favor. [0:40:47, 0:40:51]: Thank you. Council woman Alexander. I'm sorry, Councilwoman Gantt and [0:40:52, 0:40:52]: Councilman Barber. [0:40:53, 0:40:54]: Blind opposed. [0:40:57, 0:40:58]: Anything else, Mr. Knighton? [0:40:58, 0:41:04]: Yes, no, with that again, I I wanted to mention uh to the mayor and council, uh obviously we went through an extensive process uh to get the displaced. [0:41:05, 0:41:07]: Very important and significant position. [0:41:07, 0:41:10]: Uh, certainly wish uh Mr. Tramer [0:41:10, 0:41:16]: Um I will in his position, of course, and will do everything I can do in my remaining tenure to help. [0:41:16, 0:41:19]: Uh to support him and I hope that um the community [0:41:20, 0:41:22]: Uh, we'll certainly support him and give him [0:41:22, 0:41:26]: The opportunity to show you what kind of police chief he can be with the city of Stockbridge. [0:41:27, 0:41:28]: And so with that, thank you very much. [0:41:29, 0:41:33]: No problem. On that note, council, I need a motion to end our special call meeting, please. [0:41:35, 0:41:41]: So move. Okay. Ms. Mayor Pro Tem so moved. Ms. Barber seconds that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:41:43, 0:41:52]: Unanimous decision. Okay. Good night, everybody. Welcome, Mr. Tramor. Take care of yourself. Thank you. Good night. Good night. Welcome. Thank you.

--- title: Budget Retreat Day 3 date: 2021-09-17 source: 2021-09-17_Budget_Retreat_Day_3.wav --- [0:11:02, 0:11:03]: Mora, Mora. [0:11:08, 0:11:08]: Hey you're up. [0:13:11, 0:13:12]: Good morning. [0:13:31, 0:13:32]: Well good morning, everybody. [0:13:35, 0:13:37]: And we are recording. [0:17:32, 0:17:33]: Morning, Mr. Blount. [0:17:43, 0:17:44]: Good morning, sir. [0:17:48, 0:17:50]: [1155.1, 1156.2]: Morning, Councilman Thomas. [0:19:18, 0:19:19]: Good morning, sir. Good morning. [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: Good morning, Councilwoman Barber. [0:19:48, 0:19:52]: We are now live on Facebook, ladies and gentlemen. [0:19:57, 0:19:59]: And actually I have nine o'clock, actually. [0:20:13, 0:20:15]: We'll give a few more minutes for folks to join in. [0:20:29, 0:20:30]: Miss Holiday, good morning to you. [0:20:31, 0:20:33]: You got the staff coming in. [0:20:33, 0:20:35]: Good morning, good morning. [0:20:54, 0:20:55]: It's been awesome. [0:20:56, 0:20:58]: Even out. [0:21:42, 0:21:43]: Yeah, good morning, Councilwoman Ken. [0:21:44, 0:21:45]: Good morning. [0:21:46, 0:21:46]: Okay. [0:22:06, 0:22:08]: Very front time. Good morning to you. [0:22:14, 0:22:15]: Good morning. [0:22:27, 0:22:30]: All right. Um [0:22:31, 0:22:32]: Good morning, Mr. Knighton. [0:22:36, 0:22:37]: Hello everyone. [0:22:38, 0:22:42]: All right, sir. Um we do not have our attorneys at this point. [0:22:45, 0:22:46]: Right. [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: You will get them connected here. [0:22:48, 0:22:48]: I appreciate it. [0:23:45, 0:23:47]: We still don't still don't have them. Hold on. [0:23:47, 0:23:48]: No, no, sir, I do not. [0:23:49, 0:23:49]: Okay. [0:24:24, 0:24:26]: [1494.4, 1496.4]: Mr Washington will join us here in just a moment. [0:24:56, 0:24:57]: Thank you. [0:25:49, 0:25:51]: Good morning, Mr. Washington. [0:25:53, 0:25:56]: Morning, how are you? All right, sir. Just fine. [0:25:56, 0:25:59]: I have I have nine oh six. [0:26:00, 0:26:08]: And we are recording and it is Facebook Live. And I like to call our day number three of our budget retreat for 2022. [0:26:09, 0:26:10]: To order. [0:26:11, 0:26:13]: Miss uh holiday. [0:26:13, 0:26:16]: Oh excuse me, excuse me. Invocation, please. [0:26:17, 0:26:18]: Castman Blount. [0:26:19, 0:26:26]: Oh yes, Mayor, um I would first like to say uh that we send our prayers and condolences out to [0:26:26, 0:26:27]: Uh [0:26:28, 0:26:33]: Zeke Pattaway family for his passing yesterday. Uh if you all unaware, he uh [0:26:33, 0:26:38]: Um sig uh he qualified to be a candidate for um [0:26:38, 0:26:41]: City Council and he actually passed away yesterday. [0:26:42, 0:26:45]: Um, so our condolences and the prayers go out to him and his family. [0:26:46, 0:26:48]: Uh spray. [0:26:49, 0:26:53]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we ask that you would come and be a part of this meeting today, Heavenly Father. [0:26:54, 0:26:58]: That you will be with each and every one of us as we go about the business of the city. [0:26:59, 0:27:04]: Heavenly Father, we ask that you would guide our minds and cover our hearts as we conduct this business, Lord. [0:27:05, 0:27:25]: Let us be those that promote Heavenly Father's prosperity and goodwill for each and every one, Heavenly Father. Cover us each and every one of us and just touch the heart of all Heavenly Father right now on this day. We ask that you would continue to keep those that have suffered from this pandemic, Heavenly Father, that you would continue to cover them and make provision for them. [0:27:25, 0:27:42]: they've never seen before. So we thank you on this day that you've given us the opportunity as leaders in this city, Lord, to not only do the will of the city, Heavenly Father, but do your will as we do it. So we thank you, Father, for this opportunity. We ask you that you continue to cover us and keep us. It's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:27:42, 0:27:46]: Amen. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:27:49, 0:28:00]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:28:02, 0:28:04]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:28:07, 0:28:08]: Mayor Ford. [0:28:08, 0:28:08]: Does it? [0:28:09, 0:28:11]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:28:11, 0:28:12]: Present. [0:28:13, 0:28:14]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:28:14, 0:28:15]: Present. [0:28:15, 0:28:16]: Councilman Blonde. [0:28:17, 0:28:17]: Present. [0:28:18, 0:28:19]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:28:20, 0:28:20]: Present. [0:28:21, 0:28:22]: Councilman Thomas. [0:28:22, 0:28:23]: President. [0:28:23, 0:28:25]: Mayor Ford, you have a call. [0:28:25, 0:28:44]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. Uh Council, I we can leave a motion to adopt the agenda, but what I'd like to do is uh present to you an amendment to the agenda uh that the Henry County Development Authority give a presentation at 1130, which actually starts right around our uh lunch period. Can I get us so moved for that, please? [0:28:48, 0:28:50]: Mayor, I'd like to make a motion. [0:28:51, 0:28:52]: What to end the advantage? [0:28:52, 0:28:54]: I would like to make the motion to amend the agenda. [0:28:54, 0:28:57]: To include the Henry County Development Authority. [0:28:57, 0:28:59]: Okay. Is there a second? [0:29:01, 0:29:05]: Mr. Blount seconds that. Oh my god, Ms. Blount seconds. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:29:06, 0:29:07]: Aye. [0:29:07, 0:29:10]: Okay. Four uh [0:29:11, 0:29:18]: Is he for he's good for it? All right. Now I need a motion to adopt the the agenda overall, please. [0:29:19, 0:29:20]: Where? [0:29:20, 0:29:20]: Yes, sir. [0:29:21, 0:29:26]: I need to uh amend the agenda to add an executive session at the front. [0:29:26, 0:29:32]: at the first item so we can discuss uh the personnel issue that we left off with yesterday. [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: Litigation of real estate. [0:29:34, 0:29:54]: Well, let me ask you, let me make a recommendation. Could we do that at the very end of the day? We have it on the agenda if needed. The reason why I say that, because if we get we'll if we have it in the beginning, we're gonna get off time with what we have programmed right now. So we can still go to the second session. I prefer if you if you if the council wills to have it at the end, we'll have the discussion. That way we have we have everybody. [0:29:54, 0:29:57]: it was programmed here, we can timely get to those in individuals. [0:29:57, 0:29:58]: Good okay. [0:29:59, 0:30:14]: The issue is a couple of us, including me, have things to do this afternoon. So I won't be able available I mean, I won't be available for the executive session this afternoon. So that's why I'm trying to move it to the front. And I think there's at least at least one other council member that has the same situation. [0:30:14, 0:30:15]: Um [0:30:16, 0:30:17]: All right. [0:30:18, 0:30:26]: Right. Uh in a sense of that nature, then uh you made a motion to move the second session of the for the first item of the day. Is there a second to that motion? [0:30:29, 0:30:30]: Is there a second? [0:30:30, 0:30:32]: Mr. Thomas seconds that particular motion. [0:30:32, 0:30:37]: Okay. All in favor of moving the second session up front versus the end, please indicate. [0:30:39, 0:30:42]: Okay. I have three here, all pose. [0:30:44, 0:30:44]: I [0:30:45, 0:30:47]: Okay. Mr. Blood? [0:30:50, 0:30:51]: Okay. [0:30:51, 0:30:54]: I didn't he I didn't catch I didn't catch the quote. [0:30:56, 0:30:58]: You muted Councilman Blount. [0:30:59, 0:31:03]: I'm sorry, this this uh cursor is moving pretty slow. I abstain. [0:31:03, 0:31:13]: Okay, thank you. Three one one. All right folks, then that means we're gonna we're gonna go into a second session. Uh if I voted for that, we're going to execut session. So we need a different link. [0:31:13, 0:31:19]: uh for that and then we'll be coming back once eventually come back to the main meeting again as well. [0:31:20, 0:31:24]: Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on a second. Wait, I just thought about something. Um [0:31:25, 0:31:26]: Mr. Washington. [0:31:27, 0:31:38]: Yes. Okay, we made a motion to add the the um Henry County Development. We made a motion to go to executive session uh in reference to the adopting the uh changing the agenda outline. So we still have to do [0:31:39, 0:31:42]: a motion to accept the overall agenda. Is that correct? [0:31:42, 0:31:51]: Correct. Okay. That's why that's why I hesitate for a second. Okay. Now we need a motion to adopt the the actual agenda itself, the overall agenda, please. [0:31:51, 0:31:52]: Oh man. [0:31:52, 0:31:53]: Okay, is there a second? [0:31:55, 0:31:59]: Ms. Blount, did you second that? Oh Mr. Thomas second that? Okay. [0:31:59, 0:32:05]: Okay, all in favor of uh I'm sorry, Mayor. Who did you recognize? I uh Mayor Pro Tem, I'm sorry, then I went to Councilman Thomas. [0:32:06, 0:32:07]: Thomas, thank you. [0:32:07, 0:32:07]: Okay. [0:32:08, 0:32:09]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:32:12, 0:32:12]: Let's get [0:32:13, 0:32:13]: Aye. [0:32:14, 0:32:21]: Okay, okay. Now thank you. Okay, now that we've we've done that, we're gonna go into we've already made a motion that to add the executive session. [0:32:22, 0:32:42]: uh to be up front so once again mr washington we do we need we don't need another motion this is go right now we just go is that correct correct all right so all right folks so what we're gonna do okay oh yeah by the way this is actually session is going to involve the the the actual um the counsel the attorney the clerk the city manager [0:32:42, 0:32:48]: Manager and HR. The rest of the staff is not needed for this particular executive session at this point. [0:32:48, 0:32:49]: Okay. [0:32:49, 0:33:00]: All right, so we need a different link. Uh Mr. Ms. Bond, we need a different link for those individuals, the entire council, uh, the clerk, the the clerk, the city manager, the attorney, and Miss Wheeler. [0:33:01, 0:33:04]: Everybody else, we'll just have to stand by and we'll come back to you as soon as we're done. [0:33:05, 0:33:11]: I'm preparing it right now, Mary. You'll get it in about five minutes. Okay, five minutes of this folks. So I'll send you five minutes. Thank you very much. Bye bye. [0:36:44, 0:37:00]: All right, good to see you all folks again. Uh we're of course uh recording and on Facebook Live. So let's see here. I have uh Barber is present. Um our attorneys are present waiting for additional. [0:37:01, 0:37:02]: Council members, okay. [0:37:05, 0:37:10]: Mr Knighton and Vanessa Holiday in place, Mr Berry, Mr. Washington, staff. [0:37:14, 0:37:15]: Okay. [0:41:18, 0:41:28]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I do have a a um a quorum here now. And what I'd like to do is uh need a motion to end executive session, please. [0:41:30, 0:41:40]: Miss Blount says so moved. I'm sorry, Miss Blount had his hand up for so move. Um Miss Barber, if you can second that. Okay. Appreciate it. All in favor, please indicate. [0:41:42, 0:41:48]: All right, fantastic. Got three votes there. All right. And uh need a motion to reconvene our budget meeting, please. [0:41:49, 0:41:49]: Some [0:41:50, 0:41:51]: Okay, Narpo Ten is a second. [0:41:53, 0:41:54]: Ms. Barber Second Bent. [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:41:57, 0:42:17]: Okay, Mr. Thomas. Okay, good deal. Mr. Thomas is joining us as well. All right, uh, we're going to continue on with our particular meeting and uh budget meeting, Mr. Knighton, please. Uh recap of the uh budget retreat day number two as we move on through the agenda. Um, by the way, I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, we have nothing to report from the Zeko said. [0:42:17, 0:42:18]: [2539.1, 2540.4]: All right, Ms. Knight, please. [0:42:20, 0:42:25]: All right, uh mayor in the in in the in an attempt to [0:42:25, 0:42:30]: I recognize uh where we are with the schedule. I'll try to be brief here and then we'll try to move. [0:42:30, 0:42:38]: Uh briskly um throughout the rest of the day. Obviously, we want to make sure the mayor and council has more than enough time and adequate time. [0:42:38, 0:42:43]: Uh to review any items or um any information that you need. [0:42:43, 0:42:49]: We do have the uh one item as was amended by the agenda for the Henry County Development Authority at 1130. [0:42:50, 0:42:52]: That I think we need to honor by time. [0:42:53, 0:42:56]: But um the other items on today's agenda [0:42:56, 0:43:02]: I think are mainly internal and so I believe we can maneuver if we need to with the staff. [0:43:02, 0:43:04]: Would be presenting those items. [0:43:04, 0:43:11]: Uh yesterday, of course, we had a major discussion about the Cultural Arts Center, in particular about programming. And of course, you went through a survey. [0:43:12, 0:43:17]: And results of that survey were provided to you with Kek and Wood and also TSW. [0:43:18, 0:43:20]: about the next major steps moving forward with [0:43:21, 0:43:25]: The um cultural arts center including uh the construction manager at risk concept. [0:43:26, 0:43:31]: Also had an update from Falcon Design on a number of projects that they're working on. They did provide their list. [0:43:31, 0:43:33]: To myself and Miss Holliday. [0:43:33, 0:43:34]: I as well. [0:43:35, 0:43:40]: We also hand the DDA um budget presentation and also an update on the stock bridge downtown. [0:43:41, 0:43:42]: Strategic work plan. [0:43:43, 0:43:46]: Uh budget presentations from economic development. [0:43:47, 0:43:48]: And Main Street. [0:43:49, 0:43:56]: uh with respect to items they're working on andor uh also a mention of some uh projects like the alleyway project and associated [0:43:57, 0:44:02]: Uh, support for those projects, as well as you heard from IT, and the major emphasis from IT was. [0:44:03, 0:44:05]: Окурс бейстн сабер секюрі. [0:44:06, 0:44:10]: And the efforts they taken and will continue to take on into twenty twenty two. [0:44:10, 0:44:12]: Then also, excuse me. [0:44:13, 0:44:15]: On the public public works budget. [0:44:15, 0:44:17]: Uh, was at the latter part. [0:44:17, 0:44:18]: uh of the day. [0:44:19, 0:44:24]: Um and uh mentioning items that uh were per pertinent to public works today. [0:44:24, 0:44:28]: Of course, um we'll go through the governing body, council, clerk's office. [0:44:29, 0:44:30]: Um executive [0:44:30, 0:44:34]: human re um human resources, non-departmental financial administration. [0:44:35, 0:44:37]: municipal court and have a discussion about [0:44:38, 0:44:40]: Um police the police department item. [0:44:41, 0:44:45]: community development and then a strategic planning exercise on the back end if we can. [0:44:45, 0:44:46]: Pull all of that together. [0:44:47, 0:44:52]: and make that work in conjunction with the amended agenda item for Henry County Development Authority. [0:44:53, 0:45:00]: So with that, I'll turn it over to uh Mr. Wiggins uh to give you a brief uh overview. Um [0:45:01, 0:45:05]: And the other appropriate staff an overview of the items that uh are mentioned. [0:45:06, 0:45:09]: Governing Body Youth Council and Clerk's Office First. [0:45:10, 0:45:12]: Mr. Wiggins, go ahead, please, sir. [0:45:14, 0:45:16]: Okay. Um [0:45:17, 0:45:19]: Starting off with the uh [0:45:21, 0:45:24]: The government body, um, I think um [0:45:25, 0:45:35]: Um the city clerk would would would take care of that uh far as the youth council and the city clerks um [0:45:35, 0:45:36]: budget um [0:45:37, 0:45:43]: All right. We do have a um presentation if uh Robert, if you'll allow Randy, Randy to share a screen. [0:45:44, 0:45:47]: for the governing body's budget presentation. [0:46:00, 0:46:01]: Yeah. [0:46:10, 0:46:10]: Thank you. [0:46:11, 0:46:17]: So what we have here, we wanted to talk a little bit about what the governing body uh does here for the city of Stockbridge. [0:46:17, 0:46:25]: And those areas are planning and implement implementation, preserving our history, information and education, communication. [0:46:25, 0:46:26]: Economic development. [0:46:27, 0:46:28]: Beautification and restoration. [0:46:29, 0:46:32]: and the protection of our community and the environment. [0:46:36, 0:46:39]: Here we have the mayor and council members, Mayor Anthony Ford. [0:46:40, 0:46:47]: Mayor Proteil Melton Alexander, Councilwoman Yolanda Barber, Councilman John Blount, Councilwoman Lakeisha Gantt, and Councilman Alfonso Thomas. [0:46:48, 0:46:52]: City of Stockbridge operates under a council manager form of government. [0:46:52, 0:46:55]: The city sets policy, the city council rather sets policy. [0:46:55, 0:46:58]: And relies on the city manager to implement policy direction. [0:46:59, 0:47:01]: The city council consists of a mayor. [0:47:02, 0:47:04]: Five council members who all serve the city at large. [0:47:05, 0:47:07]: They serve four year staggered terms. [0:47:07, 0:47:12]: The city council represents the interest of the citizens of Stockbridge by adopting public policies. [0:47:12, 0:47:14]: Determining the city's mission. [0:47:14, 0:47:16]: Scope of service and tax levels. [0:47:16, 0:47:21]: passing ordinances, approving new projects and programs, and ratifying the budget. [0:47:30, 0:47:30]: Wait. [0:47:31, 0:47:37]: So here we have the proposed 2022 budget. [0:47:37, 0:47:48]: It is identical to the 2021 budget. There were no adjustments made. We are asking that the mayor and council have conversations with the city manager. [0:47:48, 0:47:53]: on any of those expenditures that you want to see changes made. [0:47:55, 0:47:58]: Uh the city employs approximately eighty five people and it's [0:47:58, 0:48:04]: is organized into functions of general government, administration, public works, community development, and public safety. [0:48:05, 0:48:16]: Administration departments include the city manager, city clerk, city treasurer, and finance human resources, the public information officer, economic development, main street, events, information technologies. [0:48:16, 0:48:17]: Court services. [0:48:18, 0:48:24]: And also public works includes general maintenance, water, sewer, parts, stormwater, sanitation, and build and maintenance. [0:48:25, 0:48:29]: Community development includes business services, planning and zoning, GIS. [0:48:29, 0:48:31]: Building permitting and inspections. [0:48:32, 0:48:40]: Fire marshal and code enforcement. So each of those departments are either included in other departments or [0:48:41, 0:48:43]: uh an individual department budget. [0:48:50, 0:48:52]: Any questions regarding the [0:48:53, 0:48:57]: Uh proposed budget for the mayor and council can be directed to our city manager. [0:48:57, 0:49:04]: The budget is scheduled to be presented by the city manager to the mayor and council no later than October 31st. [0:49:05, 0:49:06]: Of each year. [0:49:07, 0:49:11]: If there are any questions, um, we're available for that at this time. [0:49:11, 0:49:14]: Actually I can Okay um Vanessa. [0:49:15, 0:49:33]: Uh I thought we we passed it some time ago. Not that it's extremely important to me, I mean, but in this aspect, but I thought that uh we're scheduled to get uh myself and the council scheduled to get a uh raise as of January 2022. Did we not uh pass that some time ago? That that was not ever adopted by this council, sir. [0:49:33, 0:49:38]: Oh it came before you uh at the February [0:49:39, 0:49:42]: I wanna say February, which meeting? [0:49:42, 0:49:44]: Uh Mr. Williams was still your attorney. [0:49:44, 0:49:46]: And it was delayed. [0:49:47, 0:49:49]: uh due to the pandemic pandemic. [0:49:49, 0:49:51]: The council did not bring that forward. [0:49:52, 0:49:52]: Is that right? [0:49:53, 0:49:54]: Okay. [0:49:55, 0:49:58]: Wow. I that okay. For some reason I thought, okay, that's why I'm asking the question. [0:49:59, 0:50:02]: All right, so be it. Any questions for um [0:50:02, 0:50:06]: Our clerk uh counsel in reference to the governing body, um [0:50:07, 0:50:07]: Budget. [0:50:08, 0:50:16]: So the other portion of your it which is included in the governing body's um budget is the youth council. They are presenting a separate. [0:50:17, 0:50:20]: um budget that is included in in your government body. [0:50:21, 0:50:26]: And Miss Harvey was with us earlier. I don't see her on here now. [0:50:26, 0:50:31]: Um okay. We may have to connect with her and come back to her in the essence of time. [0:50:31, 0:50:32]: Okay. [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: All right. [0:50:33, 0:50:36]: I'm Apple Tem, you're unmuted. Go ahead, sir. [0:50:36, 0:50:38]: No, I d I'm sorry, I don't have anything there. [0:50:38, 0:50:39]: Okay. [0:50:40, 0:50:43]: So I just resent that um link to her. [0:50:43, 0:50:45]: Okay we'll now present the clerk's office budget. [0:50:46, 0:50:46]: Okay. [0:50:47, 0:50:50]: If you'll allow Randy to share her screen again, please. [0:50:59, 0:51:06]: Okay, so the Office of the City Clerk strives to provide a professional link between the citizens of Stockbridge and the decision makers for the city. [0:51:07, 0:51:12]: We aim to serve as a neutral and impartial source for obtaining information. [0:51:12, 0:51:14]: And official records for the citizens' staff. [0:51:14, 0:51:16]: And city officials. [0:51:23, 0:51:26]: Clerk department, um clerk's office department has an operating [0:51:27, 0:51:27]: Budget. [0:51:28, 0:51:31]: For salaries, benefits, and other expenses for six. [0:51:31, 0:51:32]: Members. [0:51:35, 0:51:36]: Okay. [0:51:37, 0:51:38]: That being [0:51:38, 0:51:39]: The the clerk. [0:51:40, 0:51:46]: Randy Rainey is the deputy city clerk. Shari Lane is the admin assistant in the clerk's office. Carrie Stewart is the receptionist. [0:51:46, 0:51:54]: And the executive assistant to mayor and counsel is a vacant position, and Zenobia Pearson is the administrative assistant to mayor and counsel. [0:51:58, 0:52:07]: So before you is the proposed 2022 uh operating budget for the clerk's office, everything highlighted in gray. [0:52:07, 0:52:09]: Is something that is um [0:52:10, 0:52:12]: put in by the finance department. We don't [0:52:12, 0:52:15]: Uh the department does not control that part of budget. [0:52:16, 0:52:21]: We have you all um in change the position. [0:52:21, 0:52:22]: Uh [0:52:22, 0:52:27]: Administrative assistant to the mayor and council from a part-time position to a full time position. [0:52:28, 0:52:35]: So therefore there are increases in the budget going forward to account for those for that new [0:52:35, 0:52:37]: um change in that position. [0:52:38, 0:52:42]: So um for materials, training, supplies, there has been [0:52:42, 0:52:46]: additional funds put into the budget for that. Otherwise everything was based on [0:52:47, 0:52:48]: the twenty twenty one budget. [0:52:51, 0:52:53]: Well, let me go back to that slide. Are there any questions about that? [0:52:57, 0:52:59]: I have a question. Okay. [0:53:00, 0:53:00]: Go ahead, please. [0:53:01, 0:53:05]: Um looking at the group insurance medical dental. [0:53:05, 0:53:06]: Looks like it's [0:53:06, 0:53:07]: More than [0:53:08, 0:53:08]: Double. [0:53:09, 0:53:15]: That's not something that the clerk's office entered. Again, though everything highlighted in gray has been um [0:53:15, 0:53:18]: Those numbers have been put in by the finance. [0:53:18, 0:53:19]: Um [0:53:19, 0:53:20]: Treasure. [0:53:20, 0:53:24]: We don't put those numbers in. So any questions on that would need to be directed to the treasury. [0:53:25, 0:53:25]: Thank you. [0:53:25, 0:53:29]: I can I can answer that now if you if you would like. Go right go right here, please. [0:53:30, 0:53:31]: Um with the um [0:53:32, 0:53:33]: Change in position. [0:53:34, 0:53:36]: Before we didn't we didn't pay [0:53:37, 0:53:39]: We don't we don't pay benefits for part time. [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: So with the change we've had to uh [0:53:42, 0:53:44]: include uh full benefits. [0:53:44, 0:53:45]: For their position. [0:53:46, 0:53:47]: So now it has increased. [0:53:48, 0:53:50]: As well as the uh [0:53:50, 0:53:51]: Increase on top. [0:53:52, 0:53:56]: from the year to year with um insurance so [0:53:56, 0:53:59]: With the ten percent increase plus another position. [0:53:59, 0:54:02]: It it it it went up to a hundred and twenty three thousand. [0:54:07, 0:54:08]: Okay. [0:54:09, 0:54:10]: Any other questions, Ms. Barber? [0:54:14, 0:54:17]: No, that was it. Thank you. No problem. Thank you. [0:54:17, 0:54:18]: You know, questions council. [0:54:19, 0:54:20]: All right. [0:54:22, 0:54:22]: Mm. [0:54:23, 0:54:30]: So I want to thank the mayor and council actually for providing um the staff and the clerk's office with training opportunities and [0:54:31, 0:54:31]: Technology. [0:54:32, 0:54:33]: Де препарать у [0:54:33, 0:54:35]: To operate seamlessly during covet. [0:54:36, 0:54:40]: And some of the things that we were able to do in the fiscal year twenty-one and are still doing actually. [0:54:41, 0:54:44]: was operated seamlessly while teleworking through COVID. [0:54:44, 0:54:49]: created several online documents for various departments so that they could operate during COVID. [0:54:49, 0:54:54]: Continuation of archiving and scanning of records which dates back to 1920. [0:54:55, 0:55:01]: City cemetery upgrades and improvements. We've been um incorporated benches. [0:55:01, 0:55:04]: uh receptacles signage [0:55:04, 0:55:05]: uh and a uh a gate. [0:55:06, 0:55:07]: Um that you all may have noticed. [0:55:08, 0:55:11]: New and improved phone system uh throughout the city. [0:55:11, 0:55:16]: Establish the Just FOIA Open Records Request Platform, which allows us to track. [0:55:17, 0:55:18]: uh open records request. [0:55:19, 0:55:20]: Естабліш [0:55:20, 0:55:23]: The e file cabinet platform, which is a digital [0:55:23, 0:55:28]: um software that we've implemented, which is just like a file cabinet, if you would envision one. [0:55:28, 0:55:30]: Physically, but this is and [0:55:30, 0:55:35]: The files are within this platform, which allows us to keep the records for the city. [0:55:35, 0:55:36]: in the cloud. [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: Um staff attended a number of training conferences and workshops. [0:55:41, 0:55:45]: for continuing education and professional development. So I am thankful to the council. [0:55:46, 0:55:50]: For allowing us to be able to do that and uh having the budget there for us to be able to [0:55:51, 0:55:53]: uh gain that knowledge. So we appreciate that. [0:55:56, 0:55:58]: Goals for fiscal year twenty twenty two. [0:56:00, 0:56:05]: So we would like to continue to respond to the legislative needs of the city council and their uh constituents. [0:56:05, 0:56:11]: partner with the Henry County Elections Office with expanding polling locations throughout the city and county. [0:56:11, 0:56:16]: Continue to provide access to the city's official record and legislative documents. [0:56:17, 0:56:17]: And [0:56:18, 0:56:20]: In as many different mediums as possible. [0:56:21, 0:56:24]: continue to improve upon the records management program for the city. [0:56:25, 0:56:28]: Continue to deliver excellence in customer service. [0:56:28, 0:56:31]: Continue to support the goals of the city. [0:56:31, 0:56:38]: continue to utilize and and best b utilize technology and best business practices in effective service delivery. [0:56:38, 0:56:40]: continue to effectively work as a team. [0:56:41, 0:56:46]: And to continue to ensure that all members of the team perform their work ex ethically. [0:56:47, 0:56:48]: And with integrity. [0:56:49, 0:56:51]: 'Cause as you know, the city clerk department [0:56:51, 0:56:55]: Which serves as the information nucleus of the city and its department. [0:56:55, 0:56:58]: And dedicated to providing the highest level [0:56:59, 0:57:05]: Of professional service to the citizens of Stockbridge. Our goal is to provide these services expeditiously. [0:57:05, 0:57:07]: While ensuring compliance. [0:57:07, 0:57:11]: With all Georgia statutes and city ordinances. Every effort is made. [0:57:11, 0:57:16]: To keep our staff positioned to take full advantage of new technological developments. [0:57:16, 0:57:18]: So as to enhance our efficiency. [0:57:19, 0:57:22]: In the performance of our duties and responsibility. [0:57:27, 0:57:28]: Any questions again? [0:57:29, 0:57:31]: Uh regarding the proposed budget. [0:57:31, 0:57:35]: Uh, will be directed to the city manager uh who is [0:57:35, 0:57:36]: Uh [0:57:37, 0:57:40]: ch is charged with providing the budget to the Bar and Council. [0:57:41, 0:57:43]: Again by the October thirty first date. [0:57:44, 0:57:46]: Are there any questions that I may address at this time? [0:57:48, 0:57:50]: Council. Anybody? [0:57:50, 0:57:51]: Yes. [0:57:51, 0:57:55]: Well right here, mayor protection. Miss Holiday, do you have access to the city app? [0:57:56, 0:57:59]: To poster. I do not. I do not, Mayor Pro Tem. [0:58:00, 0:58:01]: Okay, uh [0:58:01, 0:58:03]: Mr. Knighton, is there some [0:58:03, 0:58:07]: probability of allowing the clerk to have access to [0:58:07, 0:58:09]: The city staff to pro uh [0:58:09, 0:58:12]: To post official information for the city. [0:58:12, 0:58:14]: I understand the PIO officer has to [0:58:15, 0:58:18]: do public relations for the city, but it certainly would seem [0:58:18, 0:58:20]: That the clerk would have access to. [0:58:20, 0:58:21]: Um [0:58:22, 0:58:25]: the city app so for official information people can have it. [0:58:26, 0:58:27]: Right in their hands. [0:58:27, 0:58:29]: Uh for all'cause right now [0:58:29, 0:58:33]: You know, when I'm looking at the uh app, there are no city council meetings. [0:58:33, 0:58:35]: Uh under the events. [0:58:35, 0:58:38]: Or the Zoom link or any of that and consistently. [0:58:38, 0:58:39]: I'm getting [0:58:40, 0:58:41]: Uh calls from [0:58:41, 0:58:42]: uh constituents who [0:58:42, 0:58:48]: Can't seem to find the zoom information. I tried to direct them to the app and they was like, Mr. Alexander is not on the app. [0:58:48, 0:58:48]: So [0:58:49, 0:58:51]: We certainly could see uh getting the clerk. [0:58:51, 0:58:53]: to uh have some access. [0:58:53, 0:58:57]: Especially if this is official information coming out of the city. [0:58:57, 0:59:00]: Uh to kind of partner with the PIO officer. [0:59:02, 0:59:07]: Oh, absolutely. I mean more more ways and methods that we can use to get information out. Absolutely. [0:59:10, 0:59:14]: That's certainly one of our goals that was listed is to have as many mediums as possible. [0:59:14, 0:59:15]: To provide information. [0:59:17, 0:59:22]: Of course, I can't speak for the whole council, so maybe I I just hopefully we can concur on that. [0:59:25, 0:59:28]: I don't see why not. I would imagine the councils right here, they can chime in at any time. [0:59:30, 0:59:31]: I support it. [0:59:33, 0:59:33]: I support it. [0:59:34, 0:59:35]: There you go. [0:59:35, 0:59:36]: Thank you. [0:59:37, 0:59:38]: We'll work on it. Sure will. [0:59:39, 0:59:40]: Okay. [0:59:40, 0:59:43]: That's all I have, Mayor. Okay, support access to the app. [0:59:44, 0:59:47]: Okay, good deal. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Thank you. [0:59:48, 0:59:49]: Mr Blount? [0:59:49, 1:00:06]: No, is unanimous. I'm sorry. Okay, good deal. Appreciate it. There you go. There's your consent there. Thank you. No problem. I if there's no other questions for Miss Holliday, I see that Miss Harvey is online. So Miss Harvey, uh for the uh you council, you wanna give us update on your budget, please? [1:00:07, 1:00:25]: Uh yes, I will. Good morning, Mayor and Council and City Staff. Um, I come before you guys today to present the proposed uh calendar and budget for the 2022 Stockwritch Youth Council. Um first we have I'm trying to share my screen and get the [1:00:29, 1:00:30]: Mm-hmm. [1:00:35, 1:00:52]: I have the proposed uh presentation up. Um, our goal for 20, well, our goal um provided COVID pans out, um, with safety is always gonna be our number one um goal, but our goal is to have four special events, that's one per quarter. [1:00:52, 1:00:58]: four town halls, which we're we're definitely postponing those until the numbers completely decrease. [1:00:58, 1:01:02]: four training sessions and four beautifications per year. [1:01:03, 1:01:05]: Um for the month of January. [1:01:05, 1:01:06]: It's the first quarter. [1:01:07, 1:01:16]: Um we have our orientations and GMA. Um GMA, the purpose of our orientations is to provide the knowledge of the program and policy and procedures during [1:01:17, 1:01:19]: uh and conduct information [1:01:19, 1:01:22]: Informational sessions for leadership training and team building. [1:01:23, 1:01:30]: Uh we're attending GMA to allow youth council to join together with other youth councils and figure out how their um [1:01:31, 1:01:35]: um coming together to build um more impact in their communities. [1:01:36, 1:01:38]: J um in the month of February. [1:01:39, 1:01:51]: We have a shadow day and day at the Capitol. Once that picks back up, of course, you know, again, it's provided that the COVID numbers decrease and the city, the departments open up. [1:01:52, 1:02:05]: The first event for the first quarter is March Madness. The initiative for that is college readiness. This would be our second annual March Madness. We had one post-COVID in 2019. We're excited to try to, you know, get that back going. [1:02:06, 1:02:08]: Uh the first one we did was for [1:02:08, 1:02:14]: uh for the census and this this year the initiative will be for college readiness. [1:02:16, 1:02:19]: Um, and then we have beautifications attached to every event. [1:02:21, 1:02:30]: Next we have for June, which is our second quarter event, is a family game night. The purpose of this event is to encounter community service and involvement amongst the youth. [1:02:32, 1:02:33]: Are there a cool? [1:02:33, 1:02:36]: It's the September Fall Festival. [1:02:37, 1:02:43]: The purpose of that event is to bring the youth and um have a fun-filled event providing tips of mental health and wellness. [1:02:44, 1:02:52]: um in the community, also to um get the community to get active in promoting physical health. [1:02:53, 1:03:00]: The month of October, we will be supporting Georgia City's week. The Stockbridge Youth Council will spend the week supporting mayor and council's initiatives during the week. [1:03:03, 1:03:18]: And then December we have the Christmas uh charity, the Christmas workshop. Those are our main events for 2022. Again, like I said, our town halls will be postponed until the number uh COVID numbers go down. [1:03:19, 1:03:21]: Uh I'm gonna now share. [1:03:21, 1:03:22]: Our [1:03:26, 1:03:31]: Um the budget um project uh uh proposal. [1:03:31, 1:03:34]: We have um the majority of our budget. [1:03:35, 1:03:40]: which is 10,000 is for the special events. We have budgeted$3,000 per special event. [1:03:40, 1:03:42]: Then we have three hundred dollars. [1:03:42, 1:03:59]: uh for beautification for our um project that we're working on. Right now we're um in the beginning stages of adopting a road and the road that has been selected is old Conyers Road because it sits along a road that has uh elementary school, which is cotton Indian. [1:04:00, 1:04:05]: middle school. And so we're in the process of working those uh details out now. [1:04:06, 1:04:07]: We have [1:04:08, 1:04:10]: 3,000 job, 3500. [1:04:10, 1:04:12]: Three thousand dollars for training. [1:04:12, 1:04:20]: $3,500 for lodging. Lodging is only GMA for this year. Um, that's the only thing we have for um lodging. [1:04:21, 1:04:23]: And transportation. [1:04:24, 1:04:44]: Actually, we don't have any for transportation because uh GMA is here. And generally, um, provided that we're able to uh use city vehicles, we only take a handful of students, um, which is about five students to GMA as representatives. Um and that's just because of you know the budget, we have more students. So we [1:04:44, 1:04:49]: Select the officers to go to GMA and then bring the information back to us. [1:04:49, 1:04:58]: So that keeps us um in a budget of 21.5 as we always have. Um our goal for this year is to do fundraisers. Our fundraiser goal is [1:04:58, 1:05:07]: $3,500. The purpose of the fundraisers are to provide book scholarships for the graduating seniors that are aging out of the program. [1:05:07, 1:05:13]: and um additional funds if we uh needed anything for our Christmas charity workshop. [1:05:13, 1:05:24]: Uh that's really all we have for you guys today for our 2021, 2022 budget. Again, like I said, the budget proposal remains the same as last year. [1:05:25, 1:05:29]: Any questions? Yeah, thank you, Ms. Harvey. Any questions for Ms. Harvey, please. Council? [1:05:33, 1:05:36]: Yeah, I don't see any at this point. [1:05:36, 1:05:46]: All right. If there are no uh c questions for Ms. Harvey, appreciate it. Uh thank you for your briefing, Ms. Harvey, and look forward to a very successful uh year. [1:05:46, 1:05:52]: in twenty twenty two with the uh youth council and thank you for continuing on to lead that effort. [1:05:52, 1:05:53]: Yeah, thank you. [1:05:53, 1:05:57]: Welcome. All right. Mr. Knighton, at that I guess that ends it for this session. [1:05:58, 1:06:00]: Of the of budget presentations. [1:06:02, 1:06:04]: Yes, for that iteration, yes. Mm-hmm. [1:06:04, 1:06:05]: Okay. [1:06:05, 1:06:10]: Yeah, we'll turn it over to where's Mr. Wiggins? Oh, he's there. Mr. Wiggins, can we go with [1:06:10, 1:06:12]: That's okay. Go with um [1:06:12, 1:06:14]: Uh financial administration [1:06:14, 1:06:17]: Human resources, non departmental, and then executive. [1:06:18, 1:06:20]: Yes, we can. I I'm I'm gonna let um [1:06:21, 1:06:22]: Renee go first. [1:06:23, 1:06:24]: Uh HR will start this off. [1:06:29, 1:06:32]: Where's where's oh there she is, I see ya. [1:06:33, 1:06:35]: Okay, can you uh share? [1:06:35, 1:06:37]: You're screen with my presentation. [1:06:42, 1:06:46]: You want me to share it? I I don't have it. Oh Mr. Knighton. Oh Mr. Knighton has it. [1:06:47, 1:06:49]: On one second, please. [1:07:07, 1:07:10]: Give one second. [1:07:11, 1:07:17]: It's pulling up. All right. I'll share screen. [1:07:20, 1:07:20]: Mm-hmm. [1:07:22, 1:07:25]: All right, I assume that everyone can see this. [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: Yes, yes we can. Okay. All right. [1:07:30, 1:07:48]: Okay, well um human resources is the gateway of bringing in talent into the organization. And through the efforts of the Human Resources Office, the following are what we provide. Recruit and select the best talent, manage performance management and compensation administration. [1:07:50, 1:07:53]: Managing employee relations, providing interns with an opportunity. [1:07:54, 1:08:04]: to experience working in public service, enhancing the skills of the workforce by providing organizational training and development through online and classroom facilitation. [1:08:05, 1:08:07]: Providing organizational support to the staff. [1:08:08, 1:08:10]: Компліанс в поліці і просидors. [1:08:10, 1:08:14]: Recognizing and celebrating employees' outstanding service to the public. [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: and their dedicated service. [1:08:17, 1:08:22]: In addition to providing a health and wellness program to maintain a healthy workforce. [1:08:24, 1:08:25]: The next slide. [1:08:25, 1:08:26]: Um [1:08:26, 1:08:30]: The human resources budget only increased by two percent. [1:08:30, 1:08:31]: For twenty twenty two. [1:08:32, 1:08:36]: Um that would be the addition of a human resources coordinator. [1:08:37, 1:08:40]: to handle the increased staffing needs with the additional proposed staff. [1:08:40, 1:08:50]: of 12 positions, which will bring us to approximately 92 positions and the implementation of the proposed police department for personnel needs. [1:08:51, 1:08:58]: We will continue to provide leadership and teamwork development training of managers and staff for 2022. [1:08:59, 1:09:04]: and increase our health and wellness program with various challenges and coaching sessions. [1:09:07, 1:09:11]: Again, we support approximately 83 employees currently. [1:09:12, 1:09:13]: In various departments. [1:09:14, 1:09:18]: Um as Miss Holliday has mentioned in her presentation. [1:09:22, 1:09:24]: And some of the accomplishments and goals. [1:09:24, 1:09:28]: Over the past um from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty one. [1:09:28, 1:09:32]: Was the implementation online and classroom training for staff? [1:09:32, 1:09:35]: Implementing a manager leader team building program. [1:09:36, 1:09:39]: Implemented the financial wellness program for employees. [1:09:39, 1:09:42]: Проводи хелт та вальнес халжиф. [1:09:42, 1:10:00]: Implemented a human resource information system utilizing Kronos, a UKG2Go Paperless with human resource administrative functions, and the employee annual performance review process. And I have achieved the advanced HR certification through the Carl Vinson Institute. [1:10:00, 1:10:02]: Uh the goals for twenty twenty two. [1:10:03, 1:10:05]: Twenty twenty two, we're to conduct a pay study. [1:10:06, 1:10:07]: For the new police department. [1:10:07, 1:10:11]: Implement the revised annual performance review process. [1:10:11, 1:10:15]: Coordinate the implementation and hiring of police department personnel. [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: Update the GMA pension plan for public safety employees. [1:10:19, 1:10:21]: And conduct the ongoing compliance training. [1:10:23, 1:10:25]: That's the end of my presentation. [1:10:26, 1:10:27]: Thank you, Miss Willard. Appreciate that. [1:10:27, 1:10:28]: Any uh [1:10:29, 1:10:31]: Questions for Miss Wheeler. [1:10:31, 1:10:31]: Council. [1:10:33, 1:10:33]: Yes, sir. [1:10:33, 1:10:34]: Go right here, please. [1:10:35, 1:10:37]: Miss Wheeler, um thank you for the presentation. [1:10:38, 1:10:42]: Uh, you know, we've been dealing with the pandemic um in the city. [1:10:42, 1:10:47]: And it seems like everybody in America is having challenges with bringing on staff. [1:10:48, 1:10:51]: Could you talk about the city's um [1:10:51, 1:10:52]: Staffing level. [1:10:53, 1:10:54]: And um [1:10:54, 1:10:57]: You know, how is the overall turnover rate for the city? [1:10:58, 1:11:02]: Well, the current staffing level has remained um constant. [1:11:03, 1:11:07]: Um, the only uh challenge that we're having right now is hiring. [1:11:07, 1:11:10]: Um public works technicians, which is street maintenance staff. [1:11:11, 1:11:12]: Um [1:11:12, 1:11:13]: Currently. [1:11:13, 1:11:17]: Uh we've um had some challenges in that area with getting [1:11:17, 1:11:20]: Um individuals to take on that type of [1:11:21, 1:11:21]: Task. [1:11:22, 1:11:27]: And many cities are having that challenge with hiring the street maintenance personnel. [1:11:27, 1:11:32]: Um, our turnover is probably less than one percent or maybe right at one percent. [1:11:33, 1:11:37]: Um we have not had any turnover in s in administrative. [1:11:38, 1:11:40]: uh management positions. [1:11:40, 1:11:48]: Um only in the public work street maintenance staff because uh that is a job that is um [1:11:49, 1:11:52]: People do not feel that it's glamorous, of course, picking up trash. [1:11:53, 1:11:56]: Or cutting grass on a daily basis, especially during the [1:11:56, 1:11:59]: А самер Монс. [1:11:59, 1:12:00]: So [1:12:00, 1:12:03]: We have only had turnover in that area. [1:12:03, 1:12:05]: And this year I think we have lost like [1:12:06, 1:12:09]: Two employees in that department. [1:12:09, 1:12:11]: Well, three really, one and water. [1:12:12, 1:12:18]: So we have a very constant workforce since we've been hiring in the past six years that I've been here. [1:12:20, 1:12:26]: So what what's the current staffing level uh of the city? How many employees do we have? We currently have eighty. [1:12:28, 1:12:30]: Eighty employees, eighty two employees. [1:12:31, 1:12:35]: Mm-hmm. And with the addition of the proposed twelve [1:12:35, 1:12:37]: We will move to ninety three. [1:12:38, 1:12:40]: That's not including any. [1:12:40, 1:12:42]: Um police personnel. [1:12:43, 1:12:46]: which will take us over way over a hundred. [1:12:47, 1:12:50]: And in terms of overall structure, in terms of the salary [1:12:51, 1:12:53]: And benefits. We did a study. [1:12:54, 1:12:56]: Uh maybe a year or two or maybe [1:12:56, 1:12:58]: About a year and a half ago of the wages. [1:12:59, 1:13:01]: Are we constantly making sure that we [1:13:01, 1:13:04]: Stay on top of this. We're doing surveys to make sure that we [1:13:05, 1:13:07]: Offer uh competitive benefits and wages. [1:13:08, 1:13:13]: Yes, we do. Um, we have uh made sure that we s we have remained competitive. [1:13:13, 1:13:23]: especially as we provide cost of living increases um to our employees and those cost of living increases based on what is happening nationally. [1:13:23, 1:13:25]: So we try we [1:13:25, 1:13:27]: Increase our [1:13:27, 1:13:29]: pay study or a pay plan. [1:13:29, 1:13:35]: to include the three percent nationally, which is happening with the cost of living increases throughout. [1:13:35, 1:13:39]: So that we can remain competitive in bringing people into the city of Stockbridge. [1:13:40, 1:13:42]: And I think we do a pretty good job with that. [1:13:43, 1:13:45]: And will you need additional resources? [1:13:46, 1:13:50]: With which as the city uh moves forward with the police department, where you need [1:13:50, 1:13:54]: uh additional resources in your budget and have you anticipated [1:13:55, 1:13:56]: having um [1:13:56, 1:14:01]: uh that need and uh as uh that uh need arises. [1:14:02, 1:14:06]: Yes, by adding a uh an additional HR person. [1:14:06, 1:14:08]: Um into the office. [1:14:09, 1:14:16]: that will help us in anticipating the needs and continuing to maintain the needs of the current workforce. [1:14:20, 1:14:22]: Any other questions for Miss Wheeler? [1:14:22, 1:14:25]: Anybody? Thank you, Ms. Wheeler. You're welcome. [1:14:25, 1:14:26]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:14:28, 1:14:35]: And forgive me, Ms. Wheeler. Um now I understand in the public sector the salary [1:14:35, 1:14:40]: um tends to be a little lower than it would be in the private sector. [1:14:41, 1:14:42]: I think we had um [1:14:43, 1:14:46]: Uh an administrative assistant position. [1:14:46, 1:14:49]: Or it may have been the executive, one of them. [1:14:50, 1:14:51]: The starting salary was [1:14:52, 1:14:52]: Thirty [1:14:53, 1:14:54]: Eight thousand. [1:14:55, 1:14:57]: I know you all did a [1:14:57, 1:14:59]: Paying class study. [1:14:59, 1:15:01]: I guess a couple of years ago. [1:15:01, 1:15:02]: Um [1:15:04, 1:15:05]: What can we do? [1:15:06, 1:15:07]: To increase. [1:15:08, 1:15:09]: Those salaries. [1:15:09, 1:15:11]: It just seems like [1:15:11, 1:15:14]: Even thirty eight thousand dollars is a little [1:15:17, 1:15:18]: Not much at all. [1:15:19, 1:15:22]: Well, thirty eight thousand probably was at the minimum range. [1:15:22, 1:15:25]: And the range goes up much higher than that. [1:15:25, 1:15:28]: So there is latitude by the hiring manager. [1:15:28, 1:15:34]: To bring a recommendation based on the skills, the experience of the individual. [1:15:35, 1:15:37]: to move within the range. [1:15:38, 1:15:39]: Within the position. [1:15:40, 1:15:40]: So [1:15:41, 1:15:41]: Um [1:15:42, 1:15:44]: That is something that um [1:15:44, 1:15:45]: I [1:15:45, 1:15:49]: Maybe a recommendation based on that to the hiring manager. [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: that you can move within the range. [1:15:52, 1:15:53]: Of the position [1:15:53, 1:16:08]: I go out there and make sure that based on current, what is happening in the marketplace, where salaries are for positions that we have so that we're in alignment with our pay plan that we currently have. [1:16:10, 1:16:11]: Okay, thank you. [1:16:14, 1:16:18]: Any other questions, counsel for Ms. Wheeler? [1:16:20, 1:16:25]: Yeah, see none at this point. Okay. Well thank you, Ms. Wheeler, for your presentation. We appreciate it. [1:16:26, 1:16:37]: Okay, you're welcome. Mr. Knight and back to you, sir. I know we have a scheduled presentation at eleven thirty and I have eleven fourteen now. So I guess we got fifteen minutes to fill some time here on something else. [1:16:37, 1:16:43]: Well, we still have financial administration. Mr. Wickens has got uh financial administration non but uh non-departmental. [1:16:44, 1:16:48]: Okay. Right. And um I and I also can take on um [1:16:48, 1:16:52]: The executive also. So let me share the screen real quick. [1:16:52, 1:16:53]: Okay. [1:17:05, 1:17:06]: Yeah, the budget. [1:17:09, 1:17:10]: Okay. [1:17:15, 1:17:16]: She's [1:17:24, 1:17:25]: Okay. Can everybody see that? [1:17:26, 1:17:31]: Yes, we can. Okay. It's this uh real small though. Can you make it a little larger? [1:17:32, 1:17:33]: Let's see. [1:17:39, 1:17:40]: Is that here? [1:17:40, 1:17:43]: Uh no sir, actually. Uh [1:17:44, 1:17:46]: It's not doing anything. Okay. [1:17:48, 1:17:49]: Is it large now? [1:17:50, 1:17:55]: No no sir. There now now it is. It uh maybe more helpful, I believe. [1:18:01, 1:18:04]: They actually have the slide deck on the on the side there. [1:18:06, 1:18:07]: How's it? [1:18:07, 1:18:16]: And it seemed like that got a little worse, sir. Can you can can you not that okay. That might work, I suppose. Okay. That might work there. Go ahead. [1:18:17, 1:18:18]: I'll stay with that. [1:18:18, 1:18:20]: Okay. This is the uh [1:18:20, 1:18:22]: Administrative budget. [1:18:22, 1:18:24]: administration budget which include um [1:18:25, 1:18:28]: Executive finance and non departmental. [1:18:29, 1:18:30]: Um [1:18:30, 1:18:32]: Starting with the [1:18:33, 1:18:35]: Executive summary, we have the mission statement. [1:18:36, 1:18:38]: To provide the visionary leadership and superior [1:18:39, 1:18:41]: municipal services that [1:18:45, 1:18:46]: Let's see where I could. [1:18:48, 1:18:50]: that services that enhance the quality of life. [1:18:51, 1:18:53]: For citizens while creating a welcome business. [1:18:54, 1:18:55]: Atmosphere focus on [1:18:55, 1:19:05]: Sustainability and expansion of tourism and cultural events. Under the city charter, this the Stockbridge City Manager is nominated by the mayor. [1:19:05, 1:19:06]: And confirmed by the city council. [1:19:07, 1:19:12]: City manager is responsible for the day to day operation and management of the city. [1:19:12, 1:19:17]: City Manager is the chief administrative officer of the city and devotes all of his [1:19:17, 1:19:19]: Or her working time. [1:19:19, 1:19:20]: And attention. [1:19:20, 1:19:22]: to the affairs of the city and his response. [1:19:23, 1:19:23]: To the [1:19:24, 1:19:28]: Mayor and city council for administration of all city affairs. [1:19:28, 1:19:31]: Placed in the manager's charge by [1:19:31, 1:19:33]: Or on the C [1:19:34, 1:19:34]: Um [1:19:36, 1:19:49]: uh staying in line with uh the executive with the city manager his stock bridge values the acronym peace we have professionalism e stands for excellence a adaptability [1:19:50, 1:19:52]: C communication and E for ethnic. [1:19:57, 1:19:59]: Executive expenditure budget plan. [1:20:00, 1:20:01]: Proposed for this year is [1:20:01, 1:20:04]: Six hundred and fifteen thousand eight hundred and thirteen. [1:20:05, 1:20:14]: Um that's um you look at the pie chart, you can see uh it's broken down. I'm sorry. [1:20:16, 1:20:20]: Next, the executive budget budget staff field positions are [1:20:21, 1:20:22]: See the manager, Mr. Knighton. [1:20:23, 1:20:26]: Yeah, the executive assistant charisma webster. [1:20:26, 1:20:28]: And Shana Thorne is [1:20:28, 1:20:32]: Public information officer. Right now there are no vacant positions. [1:20:35, 1:20:37]: Current year and proposed year differences. [1:20:37, 1:20:39]: Uh from last year. [1:20:40, 1:20:41]: to what's being proposed this year. [1:20:42, 1:20:45]: Yeah, a two thousand dollar increase to education and training account. [1:20:46, 1:20:49]: 2000 increase to the dues and fees account. [1:20:49, 1:20:51]: You're gonna stay the same with the contingency fund. [1:20:53, 1:20:55]: Professional services, you have a twenty thousand dollar [1:20:56, 1:20:58]: Increase and [1:20:59, 1:21:00]: Twenty nine thousand [1:21:01, 1:21:04]: Increase to benefits account. [1:21:10, 1:21:13]: This is the um proposed budget. [1:21:14, 1:21:19]: For FY2022, it shows the expenditures. [1:21:19, 1:21:21]: And the account lines for the executive um [1:21:22, 1:21:23]: Perfect. [1:21:26, 1:21:33]: Let me, I'm sorry, John, if you're pausing there, let me just mention the twenty thousand increase. Were you gonna mention that or proposed increase? [1:21:34, 1:21:39]: Yes, okay, play it, play it, please. That that the twenty thousand increase, you can see it right here on. [1:21:39, 1:21:43]: This particular spreadsheet here for professional fees, that is for [1:21:44, 1:21:45]: Um a videographer. [1:21:46, 1:21:47]: That um [1:21:48, 1:21:50]: Inste instead of trying to hire [1:21:51, 1:21:51]: Mm. [1:21:52, 1:21:54]: Increase uh HR's uh [1:21:55, 1:21:56]: Position roster. [1:21:56, 1:22:01]: We decided that we can do um we can contract a videographer. [1:22:01, 1:22:03]: They use that twenty thousand. [1:22:05, 1:22:08]: Any questions, Ms. Nye, you want to add anything to that? [1:22:09, 1:22:15]: Yeah, I was gonna mention the videographer is being proposed via the public information office to [1:22:15, 1:22:22]: assist with a number of things. Um having a videographer on board, I know that even some council members you all have taped [1:22:22, 1:22:28]: statements as a part of your initiatives, things of that nature. And plus, of course, with the amp theater coming on board, there's things that [1:22:29, 1:22:43]: videographer, professional videographer with the equipment, accoutrements, and everything else that comes along with it can help to enhance some of our profiles on s our social media pages, our events, activities, initiatives, and so forth. So the thinking was that [1:22:43, 1:22:48]: twenty thousand dollars would be used for uh a specific videographer, not a not a [1:22:49, 1:22:50]: New position or anything, but that [1:22:51, 1:22:54]: Amount could handle a videographer throughout the year to [1:22:55, 1:22:59]: um be able to help and promote market uh the city. [1:22:59, 1:23:05]: uh through uh um various mechanisms, especially in social media and [1:23:05, 1:23:08]: Some of the videography that would be needed. [1:23:08, 1:23:14]: For the events again, events, activities, initiatives that we have. And so that's the basis for the proposal. [1:23:21, 1:23:24]: Moving on to the um to the finance summary. [1:23:25, 1:23:27]: The mission, the finance department forvised the [1:23:29, 1:23:37]: Uh before you move on from the videography, I just got a question on that. That that position, is it uh mayor am I recognized? [1:23:40, 1:23:42]: I'm sorry, yes, you are. I'm sorry, I was muted. Go ahead, sir. [1:23:42, 1:23:45]: Uh is that position gonna be [1:23:45, 1:24:03]: Um a position that we're gonna be since we have a budget for it, is that a position that we're gonna have someone brought in under that position uh for the year for that amount? Or is that amount is that position gonna be switched up on whomever you choose or how how's that position gonna be picked? [1:24:03, 1:24:05]: uh the person cho chosen for that position. [1:24:08, 1:24:16]: Right. I think what we we would do is get proposals for the position and make a selection from those proposals that we receive. [1:24:17, 1:24:28]: That way we would be having some level of competitive bidding process, if you will. We receive proposals, be able to evaluate them, and then contract with that particular entity for the year. [1:24:29, 1:24:30]: Okay, thank you. [1:24:38, 1:24:40]: Division statement for the finance department. [1:24:41, 1:24:46]: Provides professional oversight and consultation to the CD programs and services regarding financial. [1:24:47, 1:24:52]: Accounting and budgetary practices. Our focus is to ensure compliance [1:24:52, 1:24:57]: To all relevant financial and budgetary regulations, including Georgia budget law. [1:24:58, 1:24:59]: And state statute. [1:25:00, 1:25:02]: Governing financial information. [1:25:02, 1:25:07]: Description of department, finance department provides financial management services to the city departments. [1:25:08, 1:25:10]: The city council and budget committee. [1:25:14, 1:25:19]: The department oversees the preparation and monitoring of the city's annual budget. [1:25:19, 1:25:21]: Cash management and investments. [1:25:22, 1:25:26]: And prepares to see these long range financial forecast forecasts. [1:25:29, 1:25:29]: Um [1:25:30, 1:25:30]: Proposed budget. [1:25:32, 1:25:34]: For the finance departments, um [1:25:35, 1:25:36]: One million fifty six. [1:25:37, 1:25:38]: Thousand six hundred and eighty. [1:25:40, 1:25:42]: Eighty eight eighty dollars. [1:25:42, 1:25:43]: Uh [1:25:44, 1:25:49]: The pie chart shows the the breakup of the proposed amount. [1:25:53, 1:25:56]: Finance budgeted staff we have uh [1:25:58, 1:26:01]: We have a senior accountant. We have a counts payable clerk. [1:26:01, 1:26:02]: We have a coward. [1:26:03, 1:26:03]: Payroll clerk. [1:26:04, 1:26:06]: Procurement manager, procurement specialist. [1:26:07, 1:26:08]: Picar McClurk. [1:26:10, 1:26:12]: We have utility building supervisor. [1:26:13, 1:26:14]: Uh finite [1:26:14, 1:26:17]: Financial service tech and a utility billing. [1:26:17, 1:26:18]: Clear. [1:26:18, 1:26:20]: At this time we have no vacancies. [1:26:24, 1:26:26]: Current year and proposed year differences. [1:26:28, 1:26:28]: Um [1:26:29, 1:26:33]: Increase from last year is is due to we have a thirty four thousand [1:26:33, 1:26:36]: Lot of increase to our benefit account. [1:26:37, 1:26:38]: Um [1:26:39, 1:26:45]: We have uh and and that's due to because we have a new um new employee. [1:26:46, 1:26:50]: My name is Wanda Thomas and she's the procurement clerk. [1:26:52, 1:26:53]: We [1:26:54, 1:26:56]: two thousand dollar increase to [1:26:56, 1:26:59]: Travel account for personnel training. [1:27:00, 1:27:02]: Five hundred increase to dues and fees. [1:27:03, 1:27:06]: Three thousand increase to education, training. [1:27:07, 1:27:08]: Account for [1:27:08, 1:27:09]: Personnel training. [1:27:10, 1:27:13]: We have a twenty four thousand increase to [1:27:14, 1:27:15]: Payroll fees. [1:27:16, 1:27:18]: account for the sick leave payout. [1:27:20, 1:27:21]: Um [1:27:22, 1:27:25]: We have five thousand increase for uh [1:27:26, 1:27:32]: to an audit line for single audits since we have um started receiving money from um [1:27:34, 1:27:35]: Um [1:27:35, 1:27:36]: Seeing artists are uh [1:27:37, 1:27:40]: We receive money from um like the um opera and uh [1:27:41, 1:27:48]: And uh CARES Act. So we had to do a single audit for that. So and that's an increase um to the auditor. [1:27:49, 1:27:55]: Well s and then we have a twenty-four thousand dollar increase in salary, that's due to having a new employee. [1:27:59, 1:28:00]: Um [1:28:01, 1:28:03]: This red sheet here is [1:28:05, 1:28:13]: It's for the finance department. It shows uh the various uh account numbers along with the proposed budget for FY 2022. [1:28:19, 1:28:24]: A non departmental expenditure budget is proposed at four hundred and sixty one thousand. [1:28:25, 1:28:25]: Um [1:28:27, 1:28:30]: The pie chart shows uh the break the breakdown of each. [1:28:32, 1:28:33]: Non departmental [1:28:34, 1:28:35]: Budget. [1:28:35, 1:28:38]: um department is for [1:28:39, 1:28:46]: um all about kind of like uh citywide expenditures like uh anything that's overall [1:28:46, 1:28:48]: That the city needs to spend for. [1:28:49, 1:28:54]: each department collectively, we use the non-departmental um budget. [1:28:57, 1:28:59]: Increases from year [1:29:00, 1:29:04]: from the current from the current year to what's being proposed for next year. [1:29:05, 1:29:11]: We have a twenty thousand dollar increase to consultant fees account. This is where we was paying um [1:29:12, 1:29:19]: uh most of our account uh uh consultants uh we need to do a twenty thousand increase because of [1:29:20, 1:29:22]: Increase work for the consultants. [1:29:23, 1:29:25]: Uh we increase uh [1:29:26, 1:29:29]: Five hundred dollars for the shredding account. The shredding is is CD wide. [1:29:30, 1:29:31]: Uh [1:29:32, 1:29:38]: the s the city clerk would will use this uh account to take care of everybody shredded in the city. [1:29:41, 1:29:46]: Uh we have a 500 increase to our auto auto account. This is to uh [1:29:47, 1:29:50]: To help with the maintenance of the um [1:29:50, 1:29:53]: Of the administrator of uh vehicles. [1:29:56, 1:29:57]: This is [1:29:58, 1:29:59]: The budget for [1:30:00, 1:30:01]: Non departmental. [1:30:02, 1:30:04]: You can see the various um [1:30:04, 1:30:05]: Accounts. [1:30:06, 1:30:08]: That we use for um [1:30:09, 1:30:12]: That we use the non departmental floor. You can see the um [1:30:15, 1:30:17]: Uh attorneys, you can see the auto um [1:30:19, 1:30:20]: Truck repair. [1:30:22, 1:30:25]: Uh dues and fees for the GMA dues, uh the website. [1:30:25, 1:30:31]: It's paid out of here. This is a supply material is for uh citywide for [1:30:32, 1:30:36]: Іч до будниста вийка. [1:30:36, 1:30:37]: Well [1:30:37, 1:30:41]: Overall stationary and office supply stuff. [1:30:41, 1:30:44]: We got a Christmas decorations. We have the agenda software. [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: We have a city wide digital software conversion. [1:30:49, 1:30:50]: The app. [1:30:50, 1:30:52]: Software is taken care of it here. [1:30:52, 1:30:54]: And also our abatement program. [1:30:57, 1:31:03]: And that's the last slide for uh the presentation. Any questions? [1:31:04, 1:31:07]: Appreciate your presentation, Mr. Wiggins. Council, any questions for Mr. Wiggins at all? [1:31:12, 1:31:12]: Anybody? [1:31:13, 1:31:17]: Yeah, let's uh this is always a good opportunity to reflect on [1:31:18, 1:31:22]: uh the total overall budget for the city and the financial [1:31:22, 1:31:41]: opinion and statement of the city. Uh I know you uh previously uh you went over and you reviewed that um the city uh you track month by month the actual fund balance and it was around fifteen point five million dollars uh for the calendar year. Uh talk about [1:31:42, 1:31:43]: uh the tax revenue [1:31:43, 1:31:48]: during a as we expect, most of the property taxes come in [1:31:49, 1:31:51]: in uh later this year. [1:31:51, 1:31:55]: But talk about the overall lost tax revenue. [1:31:55, 1:31:57]: And that we have seen a [1:31:58, 1:32:01]: dramatic increase in the amount of [1:32:01, 1:32:02]: Taxes [1:32:02, 1:32:04]: Sales tax that we're collecting. [1:32:04, 1:32:07]: during the pandemic, where some cities have seen [1:32:07, 1:32:10]: Tax tax collection slowed down. [1:32:10, 1:32:12]: The city of Stockbridge is actually seen. [1:32:12, 1:32:15]: an increase as well as Henry County as well. [1:32:15, 1:32:18]: uh as we're collecting tax revenue. [1:32:18, 1:32:21]: And and splash revenue also. Could you talk about that? [1:32:22, 1:32:24]: Okay, yeah, yes. Um [1:32:24, 1:32:28]: With the loss is amazingly it has jumped up. Uh uh [1:32:28, 1:32:32]: Uh I think in two thousand nineteen, two thousand twenty. [1:32:33, 1:32:36]: We monthly we was getting about at least three hundred. [1:32:37, 1:32:42]: Three hundred some sixty some thousand dollars a a month. Now it has ro it's it's risen to [1:32:43, 1:32:46]: uh close to five hundred some thousand. So uh [1:32:47, 1:32:52]: I our increase with the loss is is greatly helping out with the revenue. [1:32:52, 1:33:03]: that uh that we are collecting. So let's stop stop right there for a second. Now basically you're saying that we've had about a hundred and forty thousand dollars a month. [1:33:03, 1:33:04]: Increase [1:33:05, 1:33:07]: Uh in terms of our total [1:33:07, 1:33:08]: Um [1:33:09, 1:33:12]: collection on a monthly basis, right? [1:33:12, 1:33:18]: Yes, yes. And what does that calculate out to be what a hundred one point six eight million? [1:33:19, 1:33:20]: Yeah. [1:33:20, 1:33:22]: uh a calendar year. [1:33:22, 1:33:25]: Yes. Wow. So pretty much is gonna be about uh extreme yeah. [1:33:26, 1:33:44]: uh coming in. So that's all right. Keep keep going about the splost and the regular uh uh in the in the revenue that's coming in because it's it's amazing. Mary should be smiling over there. I'm I'm smiling, sir. I'll go ahead. I am smiling. We'll be and also right right now, uh uh I might have mentioned yesterday that [1:33:45, 1:33:48]: We are starting to collect on splash five. [1:33:49, 1:33:54]: And right now we're sitting at uh we've uh for the past two months, six hundred some thousand. [1:33:55, 1:33:56]: Um [1:33:56, 1:33:58]: That's uh that we've collected. [1:33:59, 1:33:59]: Mm. [1:34:00, 1:34:03]: That's been sent over from uh Heron County. Um [1:34:03, 1:34:19]: So, so okay, you say is that that a two-month total or is that a monthly total? Is that a two-month total? That's two that well the first month was a hundred, it came out about it was like a hundred and twenty thousand. And then the next month we got about five hundred and seventy-nine thousand. So uh I'm waiting to see. [1:34:19, 1:34:20]: Uh [1:34:21, 1:34:25]: With the third month, it is the trend is gonna be at least five hundred some thousand. [1:34:26, 1:34:37]: And then we can we can safely say that we're we are collecting five hundred thousand, but I want to wait to the third month to see to see what right. But it if if that truly holds out to be so five hundred thousand. [1:34:38, 1:34:41]: times twelve, that'll be about six million dollars a year. [1:34:41, 1:34:43]: So the splash collects [1:34:44, 1:35:01]: For five years, uh, that would be almost thirty million dollars. But you know, what we are we gotta still gotta wait and see when the actual projection was about twenty million. So that would be significant. I'm not sure whether it'll come out at five. It'll probably somewhere come out in the middle. We also um are are starting um [1:35:02, 1:35:04]: Um we've had um [1:35:05, 1:35:09]: On a regular basis, we're collecting our franchise fees that that are coming in. [1:35:09, 1:35:15]: That's staying pretty constant. So i everything else is staying pretty constant. During during this time, we um [1:35:17, 1:35:18]: With the um [1:35:19, 1:35:22]: pandemic, we've really haven't slowed down. [1:35:24, 1:35:44]: Outstanding. Outstanding. Good to appreciate your briefing there, Mr. Wiggins. If there are further questions for Mr. Wiggins this time, we'll continue on with our agenda. And what we have now uh before us, it's a little past eleven thirty or so, is that we have the uh Henry County Development Authority uh with us and uh I would imagine [1:35:44, 1:35:51]: probably an entire authority because I have all these Joss Flynns that are right here in front of me across the board here in this aspect. [1:35:51, 1:35:55]: But I'll tell you what I'll do. I'm gonna pass this on to Mr. Knighton right now, sir. I'll I'll I'll [1:35:55, 1:36:05]: Pass it on to you, sir. Go ahead, please. All right. Thank you, Mayor. Um, as I mentioned, uh the Hendrick County Development Authority board members are here with us. Uh Josh Finn, of course, the director there. [1:36:05, 1:36:10]: Um, they wanted to have an opportunity to come and uh speak to the council uh briefly about. [1:36:11, 1:36:16]: on uh areas of partnership, um some things that they are doing with the development authority. [1:36:16, 1:36:20]: uh with respect to um uh business uh attraction. [1:36:20, 1:36:27]: Uh and or retention. So uh without any delay, I'll make sure that I turn it over to Mr. Finn and they may have to take a quid. [1:36:28, 1:36:33]: um formal action as uh for the convening of their board for purposes of this meeting. [1:36:35, 1:36:47]: Thank you, Randy, and uh good morning, Mayor and Council. Uh yes, before we begin, uh I need to uh defer to our chairman, Pierre Clemens, um, to call our meeting to order since we do have a quorum of our board present. [1:36:47, 1:36:48]: Yeah. [1:36:49, 1:36:50]: Good morning, everyone. Can you hear me? [1:36:52, 1:36:53]: We can, sir. [1:36:53, 1:36:54]: Okay. [1:36:54, 1:37:01]: Uh I now call the September seventeenth, twenty twenty one meeting of the Henry County Development Authority to order. [1:37:01, 1:37:03]: Uh Sinitra, please call the role. [1:37:04, 1:37:05]: [5826.3, 5827.3]: Right. I mean, yeah. [1:37:07, 1:37:09]: Pierre Clemens. Present. [1:37:09, 1:37:10]: David Linton. [1:37:10, 1:37:10]: Present. [1:37:11, 1:37:12]: David Crow. [1:37:12, 1:37:12]: Present. [1:37:13, 1:37:14]: Or of coal paper. [1:37:16, 1:37:17]: Eddie Osby. [1:37:18, 1:37:19]: Charles Marshall. [1:37:20, 1:37:20]: Present. [1:37:24, 1:37:26]: So Nietzsche, was the meeting notice properly posted and made? [1:37:27, 1:37:28]: Yes, sir. [1:37:29, 1:37:34]: Uh for the record, this discussion uh is for the development authority uh with the city of Stockbridge and [1:37:35, 1:37:36]: We do have a quorum so [1:37:37, 1:37:40]: Uh, first and foremost, I appreciate the opportunity. [1:37:40, 1:37:45]: uh mayor forward and council to address the group today. We're very excited to participate. [1:37:45, 1:37:52]: and be a part of it. I'd like to set the tone uh from the very beginning, just provide some comments and then we'll go into our discussion. [1:37:53, 1:37:59]: You know, first and foremost, uh Mayor Ford, as you're aware, this was a culmination of discussion we had recently. [1:37:59, 1:38:08]: Uh with the mayors, uh, the cities and the council. Uh, we've actually had two group discussions over the last uh six to eight weeks and appreciate the opportunity to [1:38:09, 1:38:10]: uh address you today. [1:38:10, 1:38:18]: Uh Henry County Development Authority is very much about partnership and want to kind of share some thoughts and perspective. Josh, can you pull up the slides, please? [1:38:19, 1:38:23]: Yes, if I can be uh given permission to share a screen, please. Please. [1:38:33, 1:38:35]: Next slide, please. [1:38:39, 1:38:40]: Yeah, but they uh [1:38:41, 1:38:42]: Yep. [1:38:49, 1:38:50]: Is it Chair and Peter? [1:38:51, 1:38:52]: Next five, please. [1:38:52, 1:38:53]: We can see it, yes. [1:38:54, 1:38:55]: Next slide, please. Okay. [1:38:59, 1:39:03]: Should be there. Slide three. Slide two. Slide two. [1:39:04, 1:39:05]: It is showing on mine. [1:39:07, 1:39:10]: Okay, uh it's not showing on my end. We'll go ahead and proceed. So [1:39:11, 1:39:16]: The main thing for me is as we come together today, we think about uh what's important to [1:39:16, 1:39:20]: Uh, stock bridge today. Uh it's really about. [1:39:20, 1:39:25]: Uh a joint collaboration and partnership. Um, Josh by slides are we're not showing. [1:39:29, 1:39:49]: I'm gonna try this as a backup. There we go. I can see now. Okay. So I want to stress from the beginning and set the tone. Uh, we're really here to let you know we want to partner with you. Uh, we are here to listen to your needs, and we want to make sure that every resource we have available is here to support your endeavors and your efforts. I mean, that's what we're about. I want to make [1:39:49, 1:39:53]: Make sure everyone hears that publicly today. We have a joint commitment. I mean you can see the the [1:39:54, 1:39:58]: hands here it's really about a new dialogue a new way [1:39:59, 1:40:09]: uh a conversation that's going to allow us to do things that have never been done. I always generally like to start meetings with a quote. Josh, can you go to the next slide, please? [1:40:13, 1:40:15]: Coming together is a beginning. [1:40:16, 1:40:18]: Staying together is progress. [1:40:18, 1:40:21]: And working together is success. [1:40:21, 1:40:23]: Uh, this quote is by Henry Ford. [1:40:24, 1:40:25]: The culmination our relationship. [1:40:25, 1:40:30]: Is really about that. It's really about having the appropriate dialogue that's going to allow you. [1:40:31, 1:40:41]: to reach your mutual objectives with the Henry County Development Authority as a conduit to do that. And that's what we want to talk about today. You know, what does that look like? How can we do that differently from the past? [1:40:42, 1:40:44]: Вот суксельно тогаве. [1:40:45, 1:40:53]: And more importantly, how can we leverage the power of this team to help you accomplish what you are trying to accomplish holistically? That's really what we want to try to do. Next slide, please. [1:40:56, 1:41:01]: We think about our team, our team has grown in the last year. You know, we've been fortunate to have a lot of growth and success. [1:41:02, 1:41:08]: During a global pandemic in unprecedented times, as we think about that, you have service needs, you have need to ask addition additional team members. [1:41:09, 1:41:13]: We look at our board of directors, it's pretty much self explanatory. All of our board. [1:41:13, 1:41:17]: Exception one member is here today. Uh yeah, David Crow, who's our secretary. [1:41:18, 1:41:20]: Девід Линтон із аварій. [1:41:20, 1:41:22]: Uh Eddie Osman. [1:41:22, 1:41:28]: Uh represents district three, Irv Culpepper represents district four, and obviously myself here Clemens, I'm the chair. [1:41:28, 1:41:34]: And we have Charles Marshall, uh, that's also part of our board. Uh staff includes Josh Finn. [1:41:34, 1:41:54]: Trisha Culpepper, Cameron Barnhill, Sunny Tremiller, and our attorney, uh Rod Meadows as well. So this team is here as a conduit to provide resources that are helpful to support Stockbridge and your current and your future endeavors. And we want to make sure that we leverage every opportunity to leverage this expertise. When you look at the business expertise of the [1:41:54, 1:42:06]: board members. That's an area of opportunity for us. We have many levels of expertise that I think can add to this relationship. Chelsea, I know can add to this relationship. We want to make sure that we leave no stones unturned and leverage those to your success. [1:42:06, 1:42:07]: Next slide, please. [1:42:09, 1:42:12]: We talk about the value of partnership. You know, I hear the question, you know. [1:42:12, 1:42:28]: I want to have a voice, you know, I want to make sure that our partnership is mutual. When I think about partnership today, here's some areas that are conduit of that. When you think about everything you need to get done to be successful in economic development, to me it's a joint effort. It's an effort with us working together. [1:42:29, 1:42:37]: Uh across the entire spectrum. Here are some areas in the value of partnership that the Henry County Development Authority can and would like to bring. [1:42:37, 1:42:47]: to this relationship, right? I'm not gonna go into everyone here for the sake of time to keep us on schedule, but just know that we're here to bring these resources to you and our intend is to do that on a very next level moving forward. [1:42:49, 1:42:49]: Next slide, please. [1:42:52, 1:42:53]: Josh? [1:42:54, 1:42:54]: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [1:42:56, 1:42:59]: Make sure. Uh I'm not on mute. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um [1:43:00, 1:43:05]: One of the things that we have been uh working towards now that um [1:43:05, 1:43:12]: We've gotten out of the initial phase of the COVID pandemic and moving forward. Um, we are slowed down just a little bit. [1:43:13, 1:43:16]: Uh with the Delta variant, but we are pushing forward with this. [1:43:16, 1:43:21]: is a countywide economic development plan, which we want participation uh with all our cities. [1:43:22, 1:43:31]: And uh with those meetings of the mayors and chairs, uh, we've had consensus on this to uh take some next action steps. But the goal of the plan really [1:43:32, 1:43:41]: is develop an overall economic plan to give guidance for a unified economic development vision for all of Henry County with identified and obtainable action items. [1:43:43, 1:44:03]: Just advise council on our next steps and how we're moving forward with that. Right now we're in the RP development uh committee is uh being formed. Uh it's made up, it'll be made up of reps of uh the development authority, the county, and the cities. Um and I've already uh engaged Georgia Power and uh Georgia EMC and their [1:44:03, 1:44:04]: community development team. [1:44:04, 1:44:05]: Uh, to help this group. [1:44:06, 1:44:09]: uh facilitate uh discussions uh that are there [1:44:10, 1:44:15]: Another action step that we are uh working on, we'll have some more information coming out about it next month. [1:44:15, 1:44:18]: Uh as we're starting to see, uh thankfully uh [1:44:18, 1:44:21]: The delta variant numbers start to come down in Henry County. [1:44:21, 1:44:35]: Uh, but we do want to be mindful of that. The Zecanaut Development Workshop for elected officials uh by Georgia Power, Georgia EMC and ECG, and our other statewide partners as well. So there'll be some more information coming about that here in the next few weeks. [1:44:36, 1:44:42]: We will continue on this process. Uh phase two of the plan is to issue the RFP and selection of a firm. [1:44:42, 1:44:43]: Фейс три. [1:44:44, 1:44:47]: Uh developed a plan with the consultant firm that we do retain. [1:44:47, 1:45:01]: Um, and part of this process is a lot of in-person meetings, uh, getting out uh through various uh parts of the county to have those in-person experiences and then phase four planning in presentation implementation. [1:45:02, 1:45:10]: And identification of action items that are out there. No strategic plan exercise is good if you don't have action items that you can act on and build results from. [1:45:12, 1:45:19]: Uh one other quick thing I always like to highlight. Um, you know, we've been uh Henry County Development Authority has been very successful. [1:45:19, 1:45:22]: Uh and a lot of recruitments, these are just some of the brand names. [1:45:23, 1:45:26]: uh that we've been able to bring to Henry County over the years. [1:45:26, 1:45:27]: Um [1:45:27, 1:45:30]: We just completed a record breaking fiscal year. [1:45:31, 1:45:33]: of um f twenty one. [1:45:34, 1:45:42]: And uh with 12 locations, 2700 new jobs, and over half a billion dollars in new investment into our tax digest. [1:45:42, 1:45:45]: Um and so far this calendar year to date, uh seven year. [1:45:46, 1:45:50]: Seven new uh projects and expansions of over a thousand jobs. [1:45:50, 1:46:03]: And uh just shy of 150 million dollars of in investment into the digest so far. Um, so we've got a lot of great momentum. Um, there's been a lot of great press uh about Heron County overall, including [1:46:03, 1:46:05]: А до сидів Stockbridge. [1:46:05, 1:46:10]: Um and a lot of great activity that's going on. So we're really in a great position. [1:46:10, 1:46:15]: uh overall for continued economic growth uh in our community. Mr. Chair. [1:46:18, 1:46:20]: What I like to do now, um [1:46:21, 1:46:26]: Randy and uh Mayor Ford as I'd like to open uh the dialogue uh with the council. Obviously. [1:46:26, 1:46:29]: We want to be here to partner. [1:46:29, 1:46:33]: Uh, and offer our best in our relationship with Devon. Just want to see what additional [1:46:33, 1:46:37]: Questions or comments that you have for the team here? [1:46:37, 1:46:38]: As we address the council today. [1:46:39, 1:46:56]: I appreciate the presentation, gentlemen, without a doubt, and uh and uh look forward to uh establishing a real decent relationship uh with you all. But obviously the council has has their particular thoughts as well uh in this aspect. So um uh I would like to open that up. Uh [1:46:56, 1:47:05]: uh council comments that you may have at this point. Mr. Thomas, I see your hand first. Go ahead, please. Uh thank thank you, Mayor, and I'd just like to thank the board for [1:47:05, 1:47:09]: uh coming today. Uh it is a a welcoming [1:47:10, 1:47:12]: uh site. It is a welcome in [1:47:12, 1:47:13]: Feel [1:47:14, 1:47:17]: Um, you know, you all being here and [1:47:17, 1:47:20]: I think this is is right in line with [1:47:20, 1:47:23]: Uh what we are trying to go. [1:47:23, 1:47:26]: uh to uh enhance [1:47:26, 1:47:30]: Uh and move the city of Stark Bridge forward, and I'm sure that [1:47:30, 1:47:33]: All of the cities in Henry County. [1:47:33, 1:47:41]: Uh and and and as well with all of the other entities that represent the county, I think it is great for us to come together as one. [1:47:42, 1:47:44]: To make sure that the county [1:47:44, 1:47:46]: As a whole [1:47:46, 1:47:47]: і successful. [1:47:48, 1:47:51]: And I I think that you all being that uh that link. [1:47:51, 1:47:53]: One of the links [1:47:53, 1:48:06]: uh to all of us, to all of the cities, I think is just great. And I just personally appreciate you all um being forward thinking to get on this agenda today just to to share that and to [1:48:06, 1:48:09]: Let it be known that you know we are partners. [1:48:09, 1:48:12]: Uh in this whole movement to make Henry County. [1:48:13, 1:48:17]: the best county uh that we can be. And again, I just wanna thank you all. [1:48:18, 1:48:21]: for coming and uh and and laying that out for us. [1:48:21, 1:48:22]: Mayor. [1:48:22, 1:48:25]: I thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Any additional comments from the council? [1:48:28, 1:48:32]: I'm just scrolling down here. Uh [1:48:34, 1:48:44]: And mayor, somehow I forgot the unshare screen and it is I'm on minimize, so I apologize uh it's still showing a shared screen if I T can uh kick me out of that. [1:48:44, 1:48:49]: All right. Uh um yeah, I've got uh Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:48:52, 1:48:59]: Okay. Um thank you, Mr. Finn, for your presentation. I do have a question in regards to [1:49:00, 1:49:01]: Whatever's are [1:49:02, 1:49:04]: and being made um with [1:49:04, 1:49:08]: recruiting or trying to attract um [1:49:08, 1:49:11]: Companies that are in the biomedical [1:49:11, 1:49:13]: or medical industry. [1:49:13, 1:49:19]: We have the hospital right here in Stockbridge. I have a background in the biomedical industry. [1:49:19, 1:49:26]: And I'd like to see us do more to attract those types of businesses here. What efforts are being made? [1:49:27, 1:49:27]: To attract them. [1:49:28, 1:49:48]: Uh thank you for your count uh question, Councilwoman. And we are constantly pursuing uh that industry sector in partnership with uh our partners, uh not just only the Georgia Department of Economic Development, but the Power Utilities statewide. Uh we focus our targeting in those industry sectors uh for various trade groups, but [1:49:48, 1:50:08]: but also who they work with, site consultants, real estate brokers, et cetera. We do have some of those type companies here, like Medline Industries, who's one of the largest medical device companies and suppliers in the world. So we're trying to leverage, we do have a strong supply chain. [1:50:08, 1:50:26]: presence and part of our marketing is for the manufacturers in the biomedical fields is to take advantage of that. And we're seeing a trend of that you know getting closer. One other thing, uh just kind of behind the curtain, um, Pierre works for a biomedical company. [1:50:26, 1:50:46]: So um, you know, we have uh you know asked him and he's uh brought back feedback from his company's real estate team, kind of the analysis of what Henry County has, what our strengths are, uh what some of our weaknesses are in that area as well. Too. Um we just were in a meeting with uh the new president at Clayton State as well, uh talk. [1:50:46, 1:51:06]: Talking about degree programs that are needed in the region. One of the things that we are having a little bit of a challenge with in the southern Cressack counties, if you will. We do have great universities in the system like Georgia Tech, but we really need a supplemental engineering program to support manufacturing in [1:51:06, 1:51:26]: The southern counties because uh the graduates at Georgia Tech, uh, the University of Georgia, uh, and the other schools, uh, engineering schools, Kennesaw State. Um, we have a lot of competition for that, but we feel if Clayton State can prop that up and we will be supporting those efforts, um, that will help give us an additional labor pool and fee. [1:51:26, 1:51:32]: need to help market towards those companies as well. But that is one area that has been identified. [1:51:32, 1:51:41]: So we are constantly working uh in that sector. We do say targeted industry, uh advanced manufacturing, but the biomedical manufacturing is a subsector of that. [1:51:43, 1:51:52]: Josh, this is Rod uh and Mayor and Council if if I could uh go right ahead, sir, please. Just join in a little bit on that. Um [1:51:52, 1:51:57]: Mayor Форд газ працювати овер а ну в єрс. [1:51:57, 1:52:11]: In regard to the uh Henry County Development Authority's programs, uh specifically including the targeted industry studies that was done a number of years ago and and medical. [1:52:11, 1:52:15]: Facilities was one of the areas of emphasis. [1:52:16, 1:52:25]: that uh was adopted at that point in time and to uh respond further to the councilwoman's uh uh question, which I think is a great question. [1:52:26, 1:52:30]: Um we you might recall uh just last week. [1:52:31, 1:52:34]: Had a groundbreaking for Jodico Med One. [1:52:35, 1:52:38]: Which is going to be a medical office park. [1:52:38, 1:52:42]: Um and that particular project. [1:52:42, 1:52:44]: Helped save. [1:52:45, 1:52:50]: A major uh actually two or three major uh [1:52:50, 1:52:52]: uh medical [1:52:52, 1:52:58]: uh groups from moving their practice up across the border into Clayton County. [1:52:58, 1:53:18]: And uh as a result of the development authority's efforts, uh, we were able to uh help that particular those particular groups in developing a medical office park uh that will be located uh in Henry County. Uh the other thing is uh that I wanted to mention uh, of course, is the [1:53:18, 1:53:22]: Encompass campus that is almost completed. [1:53:23, 1:53:25]: Um on Patrick Henry Parkway. [1:53:25, 1:53:28]: Uh that is a rehab hospital. [1:53:28, 1:53:48]: Uh, that the uh Development Authority was very, very helpful in terms of working with them as they went through their certificate of need program to get that facility approved at the state level. So uh your question, uh, Madam Councilmember, was a great question. And [1:53:48, 1:53:57]: It's an area where, particularly as it relates to Stockbridge, uh we've had some considerable success recently and we are going to continue. [1:53:57, 1:53:58]: That effort. [1:53:59, 1:54:19]: And I appreciate the opportunity to butt in. And if I can add one other, I think you're on if I can add one other point to that. Um, one of the things that I'm constantly having a conversation with uh has been beneficial for Stockbridge in the area is the amount of jobs that we've been able to come in that has increased the market share to the [1:54:18, 1:54:19]: Mature [1:54:20, 1:54:40]: um citizens in our county. So we do get a lot of calls from medical groups looking for space. And obviously that all a lot of that space and synergy is around the Piedmont Henry campus, which Stop Grid circles around. So there's been additional benefit there. But also too it's been very helpful to Dr. [1:54:40, 1:54:42]: Henson and the Piedmont Henry team. [1:54:42, 1:54:45]: As they um continue to make business cases for capital. [1:54:45, 1:54:55]: uh improvement projects uh to the campus in addition and additional practices uh and service units as well to making that uh case by our economic growth. [1:54:56, 1:54:58]: Thank you, appreciate it, gentlemen. Uh Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:55:00, 1:55:14]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Uh I want to thank each and every one of you all for coming uh today. Uh thank you for taking your time out to address uh and and to bring us together. I do believe that uh working together is success. Um [1:55:15, 1:55:27]: I'm not too familiar in the operations on how you all are doing things with the Henry County DA, um, but to work together and to have information disseminated to the cities. [1:55:27, 1:55:30]: Um how are you? [1:55:31, 1:55:34]: working now that you would say would improve. [1:55:35, 1:55:55]: um because i uh look like it's going to be some improvement what is that gonna be there that's gonna be different uh because when you have different boards um like let me let me take our hoa for instance uh uh master hoa in order to disseminate information properly throughout the communities [1:55:55, 1:55:58]: There was a representative from each community. [1:55:58, 1:56:18]: uh to disseminate information to the cities, I think that there should be a subsidiary board or something like a development of planning board that consists of each someone from each city that you all would allow to know what's going on that we could disseminate information to all the cities. I don't know the functions. So if somebody can address what is going [1:56:18, 1:56:26]: going on now? How what is what are you doing now that that can be approved improved on that would help the cities and to help move us successfully forward? [1:56:27, 1:56:32]: Calc McMahon, this is Chair Clements. I like to address that question. Thank you for the question. Great question. First and foremost. [1:56:33, 1:56:38]: One of the things that we're trying to do is really be intentional about our communication, right? We don't want any silos in terms of communication. [1:56:39, 1:56:59]: Right, collaboration leads to success. Let me just say that. You look at our track record over the last two months, we've had basically two meetings that are first in terms of our mayors, our mayor pro temps, our cities, to really talk about what's important to the local entity. So let me just say that number one. Number two, as a conduit from our last meeting, you know, one of the [1:56:59, 1:57:04]: That I hear a lot, and we've heard as a development authority board is you know, people want a larger voice, we want to be heard. [1:57:05, 1:57:08]: We want to make sure our interests are represented appropriately. And I can tell you in good faith. [1:57:09, 1:57:12]: And our business principles, we do that. But to take that a step further, we are [1:57:13, 1:57:18]: Uh, currently vetting uh a a concept around uh what I would call an advisory. [1:57:18, 1:57:21]: Um committee or an extension to that, right? [1:57:22, 1:57:42]: We are not we are not fully blown in that we are vetting that closely, but we would have uh an advisory representation uh from the cities and conduit with the development authority, something we haven't done, but it's something we're vetting right now to make sure that we have that voice, that we have that consistent communication, and that we have routines that allow us to communicate those mutual interests. Also, as Josh said in the beginning. [1:57:42, 1:57:56]: We talk about kind of a joint one Henry joint plan where we're doing it together, right? So in order for that to be successful, I think that an extra piece has to be in place. I've asked Josh and the team to vet that that's actively being done as we speak. [1:57:57, 1:58:00]: And my expectations are we should have some more insights on that to help. [1:58:00, 1:58:01]: uh facilitate. [1:58:01, 1:58:05]: your question and and and facilitated communication across all groups where [1:58:06, 1:58:10]: We all uh have strong representation of insights and there are no silos of that process. [1:58:13, 1:58:13]: Right. [1:58:13, 1:58:17]: Thank you, sir, for that. Mirapal Tam, you should you're unmuted, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:58:17, 1:58:20]: Thank you, Mayor. I certainly do appreciate uh [1:58:20, 1:58:23]: Uh, your board coming to address us with the needs. [1:58:24, 1:58:25]: Uh you know it. [1:58:26, 1:58:30]: We we want to be able to work with the the Cameron County Development Authority to [1:58:30, 1:58:33]: uh increase business development. [1:58:33, 1:58:34]: Uh hopefully [1:58:35, 1:58:35]: Um [1:58:35, 1:58:38]: Mr. Peterson, our economic development director, can work. [1:58:39, 1:58:40]: Hand in hand with you. [1:58:40, 1:58:43]: And our own development authority uh in the city. [1:58:44, 1:58:46]: should be able to work uh with you as well. [1:58:47, 1:58:51]: uh which we're in the process of formulating with uh two board members to be [1:58:51, 1:59:03]: uh appointed. I don't see uh I don't I certainly don't want to be at odds with you all uh at all. We certainly want to be able to send out the same message and we certainly want to be able to [1:59:03, 1:59:13]: um support uh all everything that we do uh in unison. Of course, I mean we cannot ignore the history. The history hasn't been good. [1:59:13, 1:59:14]: Uh in terms of what [1:59:15, 1:59:18]: Uh the the relationship. So I'm glad this meeting is a first step. [1:59:19, 1:59:21]: And trying to heal the past ills because [1:59:21, 1:59:26]: It is it it it it it c it cannot go without saying the city of Stockbridge is seeing [1:59:27, 1:59:31]: Very few development authority projects come in our direction, so [1:59:32, 1:59:34]: Uh it is reassuring to see [1:59:35, 1:59:37]: Uh that there is a new energy [1:59:37, 1:59:55]: uh that to and willingness to work uh with the north side of uh Henry County as uh so many projects have seemingly went to McDonough uh repeatedly and uh to locust grove as well. So this new energy and willingness to work with us uh should first should certain certainly [1:59:56, 1:59:57]: uh go a long way. [1:59:57, 1:59:59]: And making sure that we do things. [1:59:59, 2:00:02]: uh to work together. So I certainly want to work [2:00:02, 2:00:03]: Uh with you all. [2:00:04, 2:00:06]: uh to do what we need it we need to do. [2:00:06, 2:00:08]: Because when things like [2:00:08, 2:00:28]: You know, I I'm I'm excited about Jodeco Mayor One being allowed to uh be in our area, but they left the city. They did not stay in the city limits. They went down to Jodeco Road outside the city limit. So that is in terms of our overall city, surely uh, you know. [2:00:28, 2:00:48]: The encompassed facility is not in the city limits. And in the past I was suspecting that it was like, well, it how could you not be in the city limits and be on Patrick Henry Parkway unless that was intentional? So in terms of what we're trying to do, and you're telling us today that that's not the direction you want to go in and [2:00:48, 2:00:50]: That you want to partner with us. [2:00:50, 2:00:52]: Because we want to feel assured that [2:00:53, 2:00:57]: When our representatives are sitting in the room and your representatives are sitting in the room. [2:00:57, 2:00:58]: And there's [2:00:59, 2:01:00]: Two properties out there. [2:01:01, 2:01:04]: There is a unincorporated Henry County property. [2:01:04, 2:01:06]: And there's a city of Stockbridge property. [2:01:06, 2:01:09]: That both of those properties are being weighted. [2:01:09, 2:01:11]: One hundred percent equally. [2:01:11, 2:01:14]: And that there's not going to be any undue influence. [2:01:15, 2:01:16]: Бада комішенер. [2:01:17, 2:01:19]: Uh being placed on the board members. [2:01:19, 2:01:23]: And we understand that these board member positions are appointed by the commissioners. [2:01:23, 2:01:28]: And they have a large leeway in terms of how they expect their members to vote. [2:01:29, 2:01:30]: In Henry County Pass. [2:01:31, 2:01:33]: Board members have been replaced. [2:01:33, 2:01:36]: Because they didn't follow the direction of the commissioner. [2:01:36, 2:01:39]: And I will hope that those days are past, but [2:01:39, 2:01:42]: You know, this is a work in progress where we will see [2:01:42, 2:01:45]: Whether or not that is indie the case. [2:01:45, 2:01:48]: And that when a project is presented to us. [2:01:48, 2:01:49]: The [2:01:49, 2:01:51]: There are several locations available. [2:01:51, 2:01:54]: Uh we certainly saw that happen in the [2:01:55, 2:01:58]: Um in the situation where we were dealing with Hegler. [2:01:58, 2:02:04]: And from my own personal experience, going back to work with even Charlie Mosley. [2:02:04, 2:02:07]: When I rw the former director before Lennart. [2:02:07, 2:02:12]: When I approached Charlie about what was going on and why Stockbridge wasn't getting any [2:02:12, 2:02:13]: Properties. [2:02:14, 2:02:16]: He went back to the office to look. [2:02:16, 2:02:30]: At that time there was zero stockbridge properties listed with the development authority. And I had to say to myself, how was that even possible that there was zero stockbridge properties listed with the Henrytown Development Authority? [2:02:30, 2:02:31]: Charlie worked. [2:02:31, 2:02:33]: To get several properties listed. [2:02:34, 2:02:36]: That's how the Hegler property. [2:02:36, 2:02:40]: Ended up being on the Henry County Development Authority radar. [2:02:40, 2:02:42]: So when the property came up. [2:02:42, 2:02:47]: And then Leonard took over later on. That's how Higgler ended up being on that location. [2:02:47, 2:02:48]: But previous to that [2:02:49, 2:02:52]: And I'm I'm not talking about a long time ago. I'm only talking about [2:02:53, 2:02:55]: three to four years four years ago. [2:02:55, 2:02:59]: When uh Charlie was the head of the development authority where [2:02:59, 2:03:03]: We were just now getting stock bridge properties listed. [2:03:03, 2:03:05]: Uh in the development authority. [2:03:05, 2:03:09]: So today is a great step. So I thank all of you. [2:03:09, 2:03:11]: For coming here today to say [2:03:11, 2:03:13]: It's a new day. [2:03:13, 2:03:14]: In a new time. [2:03:15, 2:03:17]: For uh in a new energy. [2:03:17, 2:03:20]: to work with it to make sure everybody [2:03:21, 2:03:22]: In the county. [2:03:22, 2:03:23]: Is treated fairly. [2:03:24, 2:03:27]: And that we're all working together on one team. [2:03:27, 2:03:29]: I certainly wish that upon you. [2:03:29, 2:03:35]: And as we talked with our in uh economic development director yesterday, Mr. Peterson. [2:03:35, 2:03:39]: It's about the results. And in the end, today's the beginning. [2:03:39, 2:03:42]: But the proof is in the pudding and what the results [2:03:42, 2:03:43]: Uh will look like [2:03:44, 2:03:46]: Because you know, in the end. [2:03:46, 2:03:47]: You know [2:03:47, 2:03:49]: We don't know the inner workings of that and then [2:03:50, 2:04:00]: Uh, you know, we have the Bridges at Jodico project working on, you know, in my own estimation, was that property even considered for Jodico Mid one? I don't know the answer to that. [2:04:01, 2:04:01]: Because [2:04:01, 2:04:06]: It is right there down the street, but again it's not in the city limit. So [2:04:06, 2:04:09]: As we formulate what's going on right now. [2:04:09, 2:04:20]: Once we see the s see these projects start to come and they're presented to the Stockbridge uh City Council and to the city, that perception will change. [2:04:20, 2:04:22]: over time. So thank you for coming. [2:04:22, 2:04:23]: To present [2:04:24, 2:04:43]: what you have here and that you're willing to work with us and then uh have that be uh e on equal footing. So thank you because you know again we can only deal on past performance and past performance has not been that good. But in the instance of us bringing this forward, I'd like to certainly see a new day where in time when [2:04:43, 2:04:44]: Oh yeah. [2:04:44, 2:04:50]: Well the Henry County Development Authority can work with us and our economic development team to bring projects to the city. [2:04:51, 2:04:55]: I just saw Mr. Linton's hand up, sir. I uh you want to respond to that, sir? [2:04:55, 2:05:08]: Yeah, I just want to briefly say good evening, Mr. Good good morning, Mr. Mayor, good afternoon as to the members. Um to Mayor Pro Tem's point, I'm I'm I am, as we sit here, the senior member on this council. [2:05:09, 2:05:28]: Um, I'm in my second term and I can honestly, I came in when Monsieur was there, I represent District 2, was appointed by Commissioner D. Clements. Um, I can wholeheartedly say this is a different board um than previous boards. When I first came on this board, I too looked at historical data. [2:05:28, 2:05:34]: And looked at what was happening, what was transpiring, and and I had some questions as a new member. [2:05:35, 2:05:52]: why x, y, and z had not taken place. And so we have seen a transformation and a different thought process with this board. You have independent thinkers here. Uh when we say uh you made a comment about being appointed by [2:05:52, 2:06:12]: Our commissioners and our attorney will tell you we are an independent political organization. Although they appoint us, we operate independent from our state constitution and why we've been set up. I am the guy, and this is a public meeting, I am the guy who can and it's in the public records where I actually had to vote. [2:06:12, 2:06:14]: vote or I voted. [2:06:15, 2:06:19]: against an issue that my my d my my commissioner wanted. [2:06:20, 2:06:40]: Wasn't a pretty sight, but I did what I thought was best for the committee for the county. And so I say that to say we walk the walk and we talk the talk because we do know what's best for the entire um uh county. And so we have better dialogue with our border. Prior the commissioner. [2:06:39, 2:06:48]: And this body didn't even have the right kind of communication dialogue. So we have improved a lot with this board. [2:06:48, 2:06:58]: So what you're seeing here today is a reconstituted Henry County Development Authority with a different mindset that encompasses all of um [2:06:59, 2:07:03]: the county and all of the cities. And at the end of the day, sometimes mayor pro ten. [2:07:03, 2:07:17]: We ca it's up to the companies to decide where they want to be. We you know, they make the final decision. We don't. But as you said, if everybody has an opportunity, uh, we just lay it on the table and bring them and we because we sell the county. [2:07:17, 2:07:20]: And each city has different assets. [2:07:20, 2:07:29]: And everybody and and it's those assets that we present to the potential clients and then they make the decision. But do know that we're here. [2:07:29, 2:07:33]: And this represents a new day. So I yield and thank you for the opportunity. [2:07:34, 2:07:34]: Thank you, sir. [2:07:34, 2:07:39]: So Mayor Pro Tent, uh this is Chair Clemson. Just have one quick comment uh before we move forward. [2:07:40, 2:07:42]: Uh, one of the things I want to say is. [2:07:42, 2:07:48]: You know, this as David said, this board is is a a group of independent thinkers, but this is about leadership. [2:07:49, 2:07:51]: This is about transformation. [2:07:51, 2:07:53]: This is about doing the things that are tough. [2:07:53, 2:08:10]: that most people won't do. I mean, our intent from a culture perspective is to do what we've never done before. In order to do that, we have to charter waters that are difficult. And I think part of that is just leveraging everything that we all have on this call today to the best of what you're trying to do. [2:08:10, 2:08:18]: And we haven't done that. We're trying to build an infrastructure that allows us to do that, to provide that support. There are no silos, there are no gaps. [2:08:18, 2:08:23]: And that we have a model that works. And right now we're we're trying to do that. So [2:08:23, 2:08:28]: Uh thanks for your feedback. But I can give you a two hundred percent assurance in terms of what we're about. [2:08:28, 2:08:35]: In terms of handling business uh integrity and trying to do the right thing, that's what we wanna do. That's part of the reason we're here today. So just wanna just share that. [2:08:36, 2:08:38]: Well, thank you for those comments. I appreciate that. [2:08:39, 2:08:41]: Uh Miss Barber, you had your hand up again. [2:08:42, 2:08:50]: Yes. Um I wanted to ask, and it's just me um just trying to get a better understanding. Um we have a lot of [2:08:50, 2:08:54]: blighted areas throughout our city limits. [2:08:55, 2:08:57]: And uh perhaps Mr. Peterson. [2:08:58, 2:09:13]: has well I know he has a better understanding than I do. Um but I wanted to know what approach does the development authority board take um when looking at cities and perhaps blighted areas and what could [2:09:14, 2:09:15]: What help? [2:09:15, 2:09:17]: um could they provide? [2:09:19, 2:09:21]: Here, you want me to take this one? Yeah. [2:09:22, 2:09:36]: Yeah, uh thank you for the question. Uh for full disclosure, uh I've I started my career in downtown urban redevelopment. So um I've I've got a lot of expertise in that. And you know, part of what we do uh at the authority. [2:09:36, 2:09:44]: Number one, uh, when we're working with companies, uh, and I I do want to be very clear about this, the real estate drives where it locates. [2:09:45, 2:09:56]: Um, we just want it to stay within the boundaries of Henry County. They're gonna make a decision uh based on zoning, building conditions, rent, uh access, various other um things that are out there. [2:09:56, 2:10:09]: With the blighted properties, uh, one of the things that we can help with, we do have some powers within our constitutional authority in our toolbox that we can help with if we're asked to help. [2:10:09, 2:10:25]: um by a city. Um that's that's not a problem in that and that's something we can explore further as the city's looking at some of its redevelopment plans uh in the downtown area and some other districts that are out there. Um I have been in conversations and uh lended expertise [2:10:26, 2:10:27]: Uh where I can. [2:10:27, 2:10:31]: Um, you know, and hope to help with that and drive'em through. [2:10:31, 2:10:37]: Yeah, ultimately with blighted properties, uh, the challenge is you do have to deal with a property owner. [2:10:37, 2:10:54]: Are they willing to do something? But also does the city have the proper code enforcement, um, which all seem to, you know, uh been building a stronger community development department which helps with that uh with code enforcement and various other things that are out there. But there are other tools that are out there and I have um [2:10:55, 2:11:15]: with Alan and his predecessor have you know offered our sort um resources, expertise, ideas, even just drive around and look at them uh at any time uh that's there. So there are different tools and programs that are out there. Uh I could probably spend a half hour on it. Um, but just I know everybody's on a uh schedule and trying to be mindful of that. [2:11:15, 2:11:17]: But we have a variety of tools, resources. [2:11:17, 2:11:21]: Uh and contacts within our networks that can help with that. [2:11:22, 2:11:22]: Mayor. [2:11:24, 2:11:39]: Oh thank you, Mr. Finn. Well stand by stand by please. Stand by please. Thank you, Mr. Finn, for that. I believe Councilman, uh uh Councilwoman Barber, that finish that finishes your question. You're good. Uh Mayor Protence, stand by. Councilman Gantt, you have yet to speak. Go ahead, please. [2:11:39, 2:11:40]: Thank you. [2:11:41, 2:11:52]: Um, I would like to thank Karen County the Health and According Board. I am confident um that they will do an excellent job at working on all areas of the UNI. [2:11:52, 2:11:54]: Um to include [2:11:55, 2:11:56]: Bridge uh [2:11:57, 2:12:00]: And I you know, I know mayor council that we are very passionate. [2:12:00, 2:12:02]: About stop reasonably. [2:12:02, 2:12:05]: Well I heard your city. I think every one of us do. [2:12:06, 2:12:06]: So [2:12:07, 2:12:07]: I [2:12:09, 2:12:10]: I um [2:12:10, 2:12:11]: It's support. [2:12:11, 2:12:13]: Uh here we can. [2:12:14, 2:12:18]: Um I've seen some great things happening right now. Um [2:12:18, 2:12:23]: And uh Mr. Fan, I I know what you just say but I would love to have you come to maybe a [2:12:23, 2:12:25]: Downtown Development Authority meeting. [2:12:26, 2:12:30]: uh that we have to to speak on some of those things that we can do. [2:12:30, 2:12:31]: Of such lighted areas. [2:12:32, 2:12:33]: However, um [2:12:35, 2:12:38]: I do want to know what is the process in regards to [2:12:39, 2:12:40]: The hero episode. [2:12:41, 2:12:41]: Well I [2:12:42, 2:12:44]: And I'm taking a lot of economic development. [2:12:45, 2:12:48]: Um studies. Um I do know that companies. [2:12:48, 2:12:50]: Shout out, here it is. [2:12:50, 2:12:52]: Right, and our job. [2:12:53, 2:12:58]: Insettlement deficits and development authorities is to market those areas. [2:12:58, 2:13:01]: have a database is your day database [2:13:01, 2:13:05]: inclusive growing everything here for the entire county. [2:13:06, 2:13:10]: You have all the assets that you need from us, all the information you need. [2:13:10, 2:13:12]: So that when you get that phone call [2:13:12, 2:13:14]: At the nineteenth hour and they [2:13:15, 2:13:16]: twenty four hours. [2:13:16, 2:13:23]: Um all the data that's needed. What do you need from us at Scott Bridge to make make our relationship as a [2:13:24, 2:13:44]: Uh thank you for that question. Uh we do keep a database. Uh it is on our website. We uh actually brought in a new um microsite tool uh when we rebranded and relaunched our website uh last year. Uh we are still um working out some of the kinks on that, but part of that service is [2:13:44, 2:13:48]: Not only are we keeping up and putting in entries, but as [2:13:48, 2:14:01]: commercial and industrial property owners are putting in listings uh with various you know sources not directly to us uh that our subscription service uses that automatically populates [2:14:01, 2:14:13]: uh into the uh database that we do have. We also keep some others um like CoStar and some of the others as well too. So we try to you know take a look at that. Um we're constantly [2:14:13, 2:14:15]: Uh is a [2:14:15, 2:14:17]: Moving target. Henry County's a very big county. [2:14:17, 2:14:37]: uh with a lot of available properties uh for businesses to consider. Um the main thing when companies come in, they're usually already narrowed down. They've done their homework. It's really, you know, you hear the term site selection probably in your classes a lot. In reality, it's more site elimination, uh, is what it comes down to. Um and going over those risk mitigations. [2:14:37, 2:14:51]: mitigation factors uh in their business and in in their investment. Um but we do, you know, keep up with things. We I typically sometimes listen on conference calls in my car and driving around so I can kind of keep up. [2:14:51, 2:14:54]: Uh, what's going on in the inventory? [2:14:54, 2:14:58]: uh of Henry County. I do drive through Stockbridge and commercial corridors mainly. [2:14:59, 2:15:03]: uh over there so I can just kind of keep an eye, you know, if you're in real estate, um [2:15:04, 2:15:17]: You uh you have you form a bad habit of driving to look at real estate, you know, type of real estate sectors you like to play in and see what's going on and see if that the there are new opportunities. So we are uh constantly maintaining that. Is it going to be a hundred percent? [2:15:18, 2:15:32]: No, because it changes. It changes real estate inventory in Henry County overall changes every day. Uh, but we're doing uh everything that we can. We got some new tools in place as well, too, that are really helping us uh get uh that we're not missing that. And sometimes if we [2:15:32, 2:15:37]: have a company that's looking for something we don't have the right fit, uh, we're on the horn talking when [2:15:37, 2:15:43]: uh with some of the commercial brokers and developers who are invested in the county to see if there's something that's coming up. [2:15:44, 2:15:48]: uh that we can throw at адом to uh have consideration [2:15:48, 2:15:54]: Or if we know that there's a rezoning going forward as well too, that can hit the delivery timeline that the company's looking to open by. [2:15:54, 2:15:56]: Uh we'll fare that as well. [2:15:58, 2:16:00]: That's a short answer. [2:16:00, 2:16:01]: Okay. Thank you. [2:16:01, 2:16:02]: Airportan, back to you, sir. [2:16:03, 2:16:07]: Yes, sir. Uh just yesterday we had an active discussion. [2:16:07, 2:16:10]: about uh empowerment zones. [2:16:10, 2:16:12]: Where um [2:16:12, 2:16:17]: businesses can grant a thirty four hundred dollar per ch per job created tax credit. [2:16:17, 2:16:27]: You know, it was so unfortunate because it was mentioned in the city when uh the blanket uh approval was given by President Trump. [2:16:27, 2:16:30]: To everybody that applied. [2:16:30, 2:16:35]: for uh impairment zone status that the city missed out on that. [2:16:36, 2:16:43]: And and and I challenge Mr. Peterson with going to the Matt to get us that empowerment zone. [2:16:43, 2:17:03]: status because like the city of Jonesboro and several other cities, they are just that is the tool that you need. If I can get a thirty four hundred dollar tax credit for every employee that I hire for the next 10 years. I mean if I hire 10 employees, I get a$34,000 check for 10 years. Multiply that out. And business [2:17:03, 2:17:04]: Seek that out. [2:17:04, 2:17:07]: For us to do the empowerment and for us to [2:17:08, 2:17:21]: uh di that's what develop developers look for to replace the eyesores and the blighted areas. They look for the empowerment zones. So whatever you can do to assist Mr. Peterson in enabling us to [2:17:22, 2:17:24]: To provide uh an empowerment zone. [2:17:25, 2:17:26]: For highway one thirty eight. [2:17:26, 2:17:29]: North Henry Boulevard and certain areas as that. [2:17:29, 2:17:31]: That would be a game changer for us. [2:17:33, 2:17:47]: Okay, thank you for the comments. Um uh Mr. Clemens uh and uh Josh, Mr. Finn, I mean uh I believe the council's all spoken on this issue. Sorry, Mayor, but could they respond to that? That that's that's that's super important. Okay, excuse me, excuse me. All right, uh [2:17:48, 2:18:01]: Go ahead. Can someone respond to that? I'm sorry. Mr. Pan respond. Yeah, I c I can respond to that. Uh we are constantly looking uh every year when the census data comes out and when we get [2:18:01, 2:18:21]: those zones uh and there's there's a variety of those and those programs that are out there but they do require uh whether it's federal or state that there are certain metrics that are there um you know mainly based on poverty level um for transparency that's out there um so do those census tracts qualify [2:18:21, 2:18:41]: Uh if they don't qualify, that's not necessarily a bad thing. It just says you know your economy, your income uh within that census track is doing you know moderate to good uh over there. So um you know we do look at those programs, we mine constantly to see if there's something that's out there. Um, you know, we've worked [2:18:41, 2:18:52]: with less developed census track program uh with the state over the years. Uh Henry County's economy is doing so well. When I started Henry County had nine, we're down to three. [2:18:52, 2:18:58]: Um, and as I constantly tell my board, um, when we lose eligibility for some of those programs. [2:18:58, 2:19:18]: Yeah, it you know it help it hurts to not have that in the toolbox, but it's a positive because it worked. It did what it's supposed to do and bring um the economics of that census track up. Um but those change all the time. So we'll be going back through that round in January uh with a new number. [2:19:18, 2:19:33]: numbers come out from the ACS and federal government and get guidance from DCA on which census tracts are eligible. There are opportunities with any of the cities to make that happen. We're definitely there to help make that happen as well too, because that's a tool in our toolbox. [2:19:34, 2:19:36]: All right, Mr. Peterson, you have something you wanted to add, sir? [2:19:37, 2:19:44]: Yes, sir. Uh thank you very much. I I wanted to add that um I've spoken to Josh about the opportunity zones and [2:19:44, 2:19:50]: Meeting has been set for next Friday with uh DCA. We're going to discuss that and our eligibility. [2:19:50, 2:19:53]: And other programs. I also want to point out that I've looked at [2:19:53, 2:19:55]: an urban redevelopment plan. [2:19:55, 2:20:00]: that can be in incorporated through the DDA and that will also help us with with blight. [2:20:01, 2:20:06]: Okay. Mr. Clemens, I'm I'm sorry. D did I miss you as well, sir earlier? You had an additional comment? No, I'm no I'm good. [2:20:07, 2:20:25]: Okay. All right. So on that note though, I believe that the entire council has spoken on this aspect and didn't know whether or not Mr. Clemens or Mr. Finn, whether or not any additional members of uh every board would want to say something before we close this uh meeting out this aspect. If there's anybody else. I'm deferred to our chair. [2:20:26, 2:20:31]: Okay. I'll open uh does it any any additional board members uh have comments before we adjourn? [2:20:34, 2:20:37]: Uh, Chair Clemens, I just want to say uh that I have uh [2:20:38, 2:20:44]: We as a board uh uh have uh a great interest in working with our city as you have already [2:20:44, 2:20:46]: uh spoken to [2:20:47, 2:20:51]: And I just want the city of Stockbridge or the Mayor and the Council members to know. [2:20:51, 2:20:56]: That uh since uh we have been meeting about uh working together as a team. [2:20:57, 2:21:00]: I think that you're going to see some positive results coming out of that. [2:21:00, 2:21:04]: And I think based on uh Chair uh Clemens' comments, we are committed to that. [2:21:05, 2:21:06]: So uh let's uh [2:21:06, 2:21:08]: Let's give it some time. [2:21:08, 2:21:10]: And let's see how this works out. [2:21:10, 2:21:12]: But we have you as a priority number one. [2:21:13, 2:21:14]: That's all I have, Chair. [2:21:14, 2:21:15]: Thank you. [2:21:16, 2:21:18]: Any other comments on the board? [2:21:19, 2:21:20]: Is it? Um [2:21:21, 2:21:23]: Who's speaking? I'm sorry. Must have missed that. [2:21:24, 2:21:28]: Yeah, Charles Marshall. I'm sorry, Mayor. Yeah, I know, I know, I do Mr. Marshall. I thought it was somebody else. Okay. [2:21:29, 2:21:33]: All right, go ahead. I'm sorry, Mr. Clara. Mayor Ford, uh I wanna again thank you and [2:21:33, 2:21:38]: Uh Mr. Knight and the entire council for your time this afternoon. We appreciate the opportunity to address you. [2:21:39, 2:21:42]: Um you've heard from us as a development authority. Look forward to working with everyone. [2:21:43, 2:21:46]: on this call today. So we're gonna go ahead and proceed in our protocol to adjourn. [2:21:47, 2:21:49]: Uh I will not accept the motion to adjourn. [2:21:50, 2:21:51]: So moved. [2:21:56, 2:21:59]: So move motion by chair by uh David Linton. [2:22:01, 2:22:01]: A second. [2:22:02, 2:22:05]: Second by Charles, any further discussion? All in favor? [2:22:05, 2:22:06]: All right. [2:22:06, 2:22:09]: Motion passes. Uh thanks for your time. Meeting adjourned. [2:22:09, 2:22:13]: Thank you thank you, gentlemen. Thank you for the opportunity. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mayor and Council. [2:22:13, 2:22:13]: Okay. [2:22:15, 2:22:27]: Okay, Mr. Knighton, I believe we're probably we're in a lunch time frame here and uh I would I'm only assuming that the lunches have been delivered in this aspect. Uh I have uh 1220 actually. [2:22:28, 2:22:28]: Um [2:22:29, 2:22:30]: So [2:22:30, 2:22:36]: Uh are we still looking at uh reconvening at uh one p.m. that'll give us forty minutes at this point. [2:22:37, 2:22:39]: Sure, if that's the pleasure of the council. [2:22:40, 2:22:47]: Okay, how about a council? We'll have lunch now and we'll we'll uh and we'll reconvene and our meeting at uh one PM. [2:22:48, 2:22:49]: Try to get back on track. [2:22:50, 2:22:54]: Good. All right. Yes, sir. All right. I'll see y'all at one o'clock. Enjoy your lunch, please. [2:30:53, 2:31:00]: Alrighty, we're recording back on Facebook. Hopefully everybody had a decent uh real great uh lunch lunch there. [2:31:00, 2:31:04]: Okay. So we can start an afternoon session here shortly. [2:32:59, 2:33:06]: Good afternoon, everyone. We are recorded, recording and back on Facebook. So we l at least uh wait till we get uh [2:33:07, 2:33:09]: a quorum here before we start back in the afternoon session. [2:33:11, 2:33:13]: Seems though that Ms. Johnson, I believe, is up first. [2:33:19, 2:33:24]: Well, we did not address address municipal court or police department just for the record. [2:33:24, 2:33:25]: That's right. Excuse me. [2:33:27, 2:33:31]: Absolutely. That's right. We did we did miss that one. Okay. So we need to do that. [2:33:32, 2:33:33]: Uh [2:33:33, 2:33:36]: Am I to assume someone from the municipal courts gonna be here or are you doing that, sir? [2:33:38, 2:33:40]: You're muted, Mr. Knighton. [2:33:42, 2:33:46]: Sorry about that. I'll I'll go over that one briefly. Okay. All right. So be it. [2:33:47, 2:33:48]: All right. [2:33:50, 2:33:52]: That's right. [2:33:57, 2:33:58]: Okay. [2:33:59, 2:34:01]: Вот так. [2:34:10, 2:34:12]: Gosh, [2:34:13, 2:34:15]: Did we miss in uh [2:34:16, 2:34:20]: Thomas and Gantt and our attorneys, thus far. [2:34:25, 2:34:25]: Yeah. [2:34:30, 2:34:33]: Okay. But [2:34:36, 2:34:38]: Okay, Mr. Watson is with us. [2:34:39, 2:34:41]: Hello. Hello, sir. Good to see you. [2:34:44, 2:34:45]: Okay, well [2:34:49, 2:34:52]: Okay, I'll tell you what, what do we have? We have um [2:34:53, 2:34:54]: It's four minutes after. [2:34:55, 2:35:00]: We'll give another minute here, just uh and we'll give another minute before we get started in afternoon session. [2:35:11, 2:35:12]: Mm. [2:35:25, 2:35:28]: Mr. Thomas is back. Welcome back, sir. [2:35:30, 2:35:31]: Okay. [2:35:36, 2:35:37]: Okay. [2:35:37, 2:35:55]: Okay, I have 105. We have a quorum. We have the clerk, the city manager, and our attorney online. So we'll open this back up and um hopefully everybody had an enjoyable lunch. Try to get back on track. All right, Mr. Knight, uh we'll continue on with our budget retreat. So back to you, sir. [2:35:56, 2:36:01]: I'll attempt to address um two items, municipal court and then police administration to some degree. [2:36:02, 2:36:09]: Municipal court, uh part of the uh submitted uh proposed budget for municipal court was in anticipation. [2:36:09, 2:36:20]: Of what could happen with the advent of a police department one in the 2022. And there were some proposed increases with respect to judge and solicitor in particular. [2:36:21, 2:36:24]: Having full time uh salaries, if you will. [2:36:24, 2:36:27]: Rather than being paid per court session. [2:36:27, 2:36:31]: Some of the thinking behind that was that there would be um [2:36:31, 2:36:36]: Uh, a exponential number of court sessions based on previous history. [2:36:36, 2:36:40]: With ticketing and other items that would be coming before the municipal court. [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: Excuse me, municipal court. [2:36:43, 2:36:49]: Um mainly traffic tickets, but some other items as well. And rather than doing that on a piecemeal basis. [2:36:50, 2:36:52]: having some standard salary in there. [2:36:52, 2:37:00]: Um uh might be uh more cost effective. Uh the other items uh that were related to uh municipal court. [2:37:01, 2:37:10]: Um uh proposals uh entailed uh some other um minor adjustments with respect to integit fits fund. [2:37:10, 2:37:12]: Uh, PO training fund. [2:37:13, 2:37:14]: And a couple of other items, probation. [2:37:15, 2:37:21]: Couple of other items that would be um while there would be increases, um, there wouldn't be significant increases. [2:37:21, 2:37:27]: That's based on again some in relationship to some um traffic in uh activity that they would anticipate. [2:37:27, 2:37:31]: The major items with respect to that was um also. [2:37:31, 2:37:34]: uh adding one administrative assistant position. [2:37:35, 2:37:37]: In municipal court. [2:37:37, 2:37:40]: Again, anticipating some increased traffic volume. [2:37:41, 2:37:44]: Increased activity as it was relate to [2:37:44, 2:37:47]: uh a um police department overall [2:37:48, 2:37:53]: Excuse me, again that um obviously is connected to some larger discussions. [2:37:53, 2:37:56]: I think the council will still still need to have [2:37:56, 2:38:01]: Of when all of that would um take place um with respect to the type of activity. [2:38:02, 2:38:04]: Um that we would anticipate. [2:38:05, 2:38:09]: I'll if I if I could just hold it right there and then go into the police. [2:38:09, 2:38:16]: um department or department services budget if that's okay with the council and then come back and answer any questions that relates to both. [2:38:16, 2:38:17]: That's okay. [2:38:17, 2:38:20]: Yeah, sure, but move forward. That'd be fun. All right, let me let me [2:38:21, 2:38:22]: I'll share my screen here. Hold on. [2:38:27, 2:38:29]: Oh no, I've got it out. [2:38:35, 2:38:36]: Okay. [2:38:47, 2:38:51]: All right, let me uh let me try that one more time. Here we go. Hold on. [2:38:51, 2:38:52]: Give me one second. [2:39:09, 2:39:14]: All right, I'tis a I assume that everybody can see. Yes, sir, we can. [2:39:14, 2:39:16]: All right, I'll go through this. [2:39:17, 2:39:24]: the sake of the council and the public, I'll go through this um some of these items pretty quickly, but wanna touch on a couple of things. [2:39:25, 2:39:30]: Um, our vision and mission statements, uh, as you know, our values as was mentioned earlier. [2:39:31, 2:39:41]: And then uh a couple of things related to the police department. Um, a Carl Vinson study, I'll touch on police chief search, utilization of North Henry Precinct Building and Property Tax Rollback. [2:39:42, 2:39:47]: Pertaining to the Carl Vinson study, of course, uh as you know, but again for members of the public. [2:39:47, 2:39:52]: Um there was a study done back in really twenty sixteen and into twenty seventeen and then refreshed. [2:39:53, 2:39:57]: Um last year in twenty twenty with respect to capital cost facility needs. [2:39:57, 2:40:00]: Sworn officers for police department. [2:40:00, 2:40:04]: The Carl Vinson study essentially estimated based on a number of [2:40:04, 2:40:08]: criteria in analysis of of similar size jurisdiction. [2:40:09, 2:40:12]: Проксиматні фіті сев фултам офіцер. [2:40:12, 2:40:13]: Uh, for staffing. [2:40:14, 2:40:16]: If it was uh stood up in full. [2:40:17, 2:40:20]: Also the findings um that [2:40:21, 2:40:23]: Excuse me, in terms of unit costs. [2:40:24, 2:40:30]: Um, there were a couple of different options as it relates to that in estimating HCPD services. [2:40:31, 2:40:36]: Again, um this is City of McDonald, which is a comparable size city when it was originally done. [2:40:37, 2:40:40]: Um in the number of officers that um they had. [2:40:40, 2:40:41]: Um [2:40:41, 2:40:48]: sixty four and then we took a look at annual cost that bottom line number is annual cost of about five point six million [2:40:49, 2:40:50]: Um per year. [2:40:52, 2:40:56]: Um also you can see here the court revenue. [2:40:56, 2:41:01]: Move myself out of the way. You can see the court revenue from 2014, 15, and 16. [2:41:02, 2:41:04]: Um obviously there was a substantial change in sixteen. [2:41:05, 2:41:08]: Um and you saw though how much revenue was generated. [2:41:08, 2:41:15]: as a result from Stockbridge Municipal Court, just over$1 million back in 2014 and 15. [2:41:18, 2:41:20]: Couple more items related to the [2:41:20, 2:41:22]: Um police services. [2:41:22, 2:41:24]: For the Carl Vinson study. [2:41:24, 2:41:26]: Um talked about some of the [2:41:26, 2:41:36]: Uh benefits potentially, uh the ability to strategically control and program police activities, community policing. Obviously now we have twenty-first century policing um [2:41:37, 2:41:46]: uh objectives as well, ability to set priorities and manage response times. Also the ability to manage human resources in terms of [2:41:47, 2:41:51]: Um ensuring that the type of police force that uh the city would desire. [2:41:52, 2:41:55]: uh could be hired uh with with your control. [2:41:56, 2:42:05]: Did want to mention a couple of things here with respect to rollback of about 1.84, which would equate to about 1.84 million, because one mil is about one million dollars right now. [2:42:06, 2:42:11]: Um ticketing and fees, I used a cons more conservative number of seven hundred thousand per year. [2:42:12, 2:42:16]: And then of course, as I mentioned previously, per the Carl Vinson study. [2:42:17, 2:42:19]: We'd be looking at five point six million. [2:42:19, 2:42:21]: uh dollars per year. [2:42:22, 2:42:28]: Couple of things that I wanted to mention with respect to this and continued discussion. [2:42:28, 2:42:30]: About um [2:42:30, 2:42:31]: The um [2:42:31, 2:42:33]: start of a police department is [2:42:34, 2:42:36]: Uh that the council will need to consider. [2:42:37, 2:42:38]: And that's relates to [2:42:39, 2:42:42]: Um, as I mentioned, a property tax rollback is any [2:42:42, 2:42:45]: Um millage or property tax uh [2:42:46, 2:42:48]: connection to starting a police department. [2:42:49, 2:42:52]: In July per the Henry County Tax Commissioner. [2:42:52, 2:42:53]: I don't know. [2:42:54, 2:43:00]: In July, those types of items really need to be calculated and provided to the Hingham County Police Department. [2:43:00, 2:43:03]: Henry County government, as you know, is on a fiscal year budget. [2:43:04, 2:43:06]: And the taxes that are [2:43:06, 2:43:09]: identified andor rollbacks that are identified. [2:43:10, 2:43:11]: In July. [2:43:11, 2:43:17]: are placed upon the tax bill and then they are received by municipal government. [2:43:17, 2:43:20]: At the end of the year and so [2:43:20, 2:43:24]: Теоретика, what happens is once those are received at the end of the year. [2:43:25, 2:43:26]: Then [2:43:26, 2:43:26]: That [2:43:27, 2:43:33]: funds for Henry County government for instance that funds the entire year for Henry County government during a fiscal year. [2:43:33, 2:43:35]: For stock breach. [2:43:35, 2:43:40]: That would be collected in the same fashion for Henry County government and then collected. [2:43:40, 2:43:43]: At the end of the year, which would fund [2:43:43, 2:43:45]: That same year, in other words. [2:43:46, 2:43:51]: When taxes are collected um at the end of twenty twenty one, which we're in. [2:43:52, 2:43:57]: Um that funds the fiscal year for Henry County, but for stock breaks, because we're on a calendar year budget. [2:43:58, 2:44:00]: Those same taxes collected at the end of the year. [2:44:01, 2:44:03]: And or roll back at the end of the year. [2:44:04, 2:44:06]: are for that particular year. [2:44:06, 2:44:11]: Um and so that's something to to factor in now. [2:44:11, 2:44:14]: Um with respect to uh [2:44:15, 2:44:17]: The city in in particular rollback situation. [2:44:18, 2:44:23]: If the city were to start a a police department, say in the middle of next year, July one, let's say. [2:44:24, 2:44:26]: Um that would be for a half a year. [2:44:27, 2:44:29]: And the rollback. [2:44:29, 2:44:33]: Would come to state city of Stockbridge residents. [2:44:34, 2:44:37]: For that year for twenty twenty two. [2:44:37, 2:44:40]: That one point eight four million dollar figure. [2:44:40, 2:44:42]: Yeah, it would not be paid. [2:44:42, 2:44:45]: Um to um Henry County. [2:44:46, 2:44:48]: It would be paid to stock bridge. [2:44:49, 2:44:50]: And so [2:44:52, 2:45:00]: The those those revenues and that rollback, but I'll say revenues, those revenues that would come in would come in at the end of 2022. [2:45:01, 2:45:05]: To fund the entire twenty twenty two budget. [2:45:05, 2:45:12]: So one thing to keep in mind be a twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three, given the fact that Stockbridge has a calendar year budget. [2:45:12, 2:45:18]: Those revenues would be received at the end of the year. The end of the year. [2:45:18, 2:45:20]: Which means that throughout the course of the budget. [2:45:21, 2:45:21]: Of the budget. [2:45:22, 2:45:23]: Excuse me. [2:45:24, 2:45:25]: The budget that the [2:45:26, 2:45:27]: Um [2:45:27, 2:45:29]: The budget would essentially be carrying. [2:45:31, 2:45:37]: that particular department until you receive revenues at the end of the year. That's not unusual in in government. [2:45:37, 2:45:40]: But it's something to be um aware of. [2:45:40, 2:45:43]: Because you don't get those funds until the end. [2:45:44, 2:45:45]: Of the year. [2:45:45, 2:45:50]: for the entire twenty twenty two budget. And I just use that uh as an example. [2:45:51, 2:45:53]: The other thing that I wanted sure of and obviously [2:45:54, 2:45:59]: Now per some other per some other discussions is, you know, ultimately determining [2:46:00, 2:46:02]: Um, what a potential police department looks like. [2:46:03, 2:46:07]: And when because it does take a great deal of planning. [2:46:07, 2:46:11]: To be able to um stand up a police department. [2:46:12, 2:46:14]: In full, then I'm saying in full. [2:46:15, 2:46:20]: Um right now there's a six month lag on vehicles being delivered. [2:46:20, 2:46:27]: Um and uh you know there are lease options that also uh have been investigated. [2:46:27, 2:46:34]: Um and also ammunition is another item again that started to come back on the civilian market, but still even for law enforcement. [2:46:35, 2:46:38]: Um to um supplement and support a police department. [2:46:39, 2:46:40]: There's still uh [2:46:40, 2:46:44]: months long lag to be able to do that for even ammunition. [2:46:45, 2:46:46]: And so we're pointing is [2:46:47, 2:46:51]: Um it takes quite a bit to obviously uh unfold. It takes a lot to [2:46:52, 2:46:56]: To organize and orchestrate in terms of the police department. [2:46:57, 2:47:02]: We did put a figure in our in the proposed budget as a placeholder. [2:47:03, 2:47:05]: Um, basically for half a year. [2:47:05, 2:47:07]: Um obviously those uh [2:47:07, 2:47:11]: Those items need to be determined by ultimately by the city council. [2:47:12, 2:47:13]: On how [2:47:13, 2:47:15]: Uh, we move forward in the timing thereof. [2:47:16, 2:47:17]: But um [2:47:17, 2:47:21]: You know, if that is something that is going to become a reality. [2:47:21, 2:47:25]: Um, then those decisions do need to be made with [2:47:26, 2:47:27]: Some uh [2:47:28, 2:47:28]: Um [2:47:28, 2:47:30]: Definitive nature. [2:47:30, 2:47:34]: Um fairly soon. Again, there have been many things discussed. [2:47:34, 2:47:35]: Um about this. [2:47:36, 2:47:38]: Um and [2:47:40, 2:47:42]: Based on um [2:47:42, 2:47:45]: previous discussions, we were hit it down this road. [2:47:46, 2:47:49]: Uh ultimately, of course, the council will make decisions that they need to make. [2:47:50, 2:47:52]: But I would just again [2:47:52, 2:47:53]: Um [2:47:54, 2:47:55]: Encourage [2:47:56, 2:47:56]: Yeah. [2:47:56, 2:48:01]: some definitive determination of how this is gonna fold unfold over the course of the next year or so. [2:48:02, 2:48:04]: Uh, so that proper planning can be done. [2:48:05, 2:48:07]: With that, Mayor, I'll [2:48:07, 2:48:27]: Yeah. Yeah, my uh yeah, my first thoughts are whatever is planned in in reference to the for the police department, the planning for that and the budget aspect for the courthouse, I believe should remain in there for 2022 for the planning purposes. I want once the money's in there or once it's budgeted, uh I would think that we will eventually use it. If not, it's not used for some strange reason. [2:48:27, 2:48:36]: But I would think we want to keep those placeholders there as we could continue to go down this road and develop this process. On that note, Mr. Blount, I saw your hand for it next, sir. [2:48:39, 2:48:40]: Yes. [2:48:40, 2:48:44]: Uh first of all, what uh thank you, Mayor. Why is there two Mr. Knightens on here? [2:48:46, 2:48:47]: Um [2:48:47, 2:48:50]: That's a good point. Oh there you go. [2:48:50, 2:48:54]: That's me because I didn't get a panelist invitation in I'm using Randy's. [2:48:55, 2:49:06]: All right, Jeremy. No, you can you can send the hard questions to him. We we make sure it was it wasn't a double-notched spy on his side. Right. Randy and I are often mistaken as brothers, but uh okay. [2:49:07, 2:49:08]: Um [2:49:08, 2:49:10]: And I guess Mr. Wigan's on the line also. [2:49:11, 2:49:19]: Uh Mr. Wheels, because I'm looking at the figures. What is what is the tax what is the tax base that the city of Stockbridge is paying right now? [2:49:22, 2:49:27]: tax base that we're paying. What is the tax that we what's the millage rate that we're paying the county right now? [2:49:27, 2:49:29]: One point eight four. Yeah. [2:49:30, 2:49:34]: One point eight one point eight four. Right. And the in the [2:49:34, 2:49:43]: And and one mil right now equates to one million dollars. It's like one million fifty thousand something, something. So I use one million. [2:49:43, 2:49:45]: That's why it's one point, yeah, one point eight four. [2:49:46, 2:49:56]: Okay, one point eight four uh I think the Hemie County tax is at twelve point something. I can't remember what it was. Yeah, twelve point seven, I believe. Yeah, twelve point seven. [2:49:57, 2:50:07]: twelve point seven. So with that rope, uh with that one point eight moved out, then what what is the millage rate what what we're talking about for uh [2:50:08, 2:50:15]: to do a police department, what will we what millage rate will we have to add to this 1.84? [2:50:16, 2:50:22]: If if are you if you're talking about half a year, you're talking about a full year full fledged. [2:50:22, 2:50:23]: Yeah. [2:50:23, 2:50:26]: A full a full year full fledged. [2:50:26, 2:50:27]: Yes, sir. [2:50:28, 2:50:29]: Oh yeah, full fledged you. [2:50:29, 2:50:33]: Probably if you if you add the um rollback number. [2:50:33, 2:50:38]: And you add the um not the roll, yes, the rollback number and the um [2:50:39, 2:50:40]: Court cost number. [2:50:41, 2:50:47]: I had it actually written down. Hold on, but I uh it was three something. I I I I'm trying to find the [2:50:48, 2:50:50]: I hear I heard it. [2:50:58, 2:51:01]: I hear it right in front of me. [2:51:05, 2:51:06]: She's [2:51:09, 2:51:09]: Okay. [2:51:36, 2:51:37]: Mm. [2:51:37, 2:51:39]: Real quick, make sure I get it. [2:51:39, 2:51:41]: I got I got a lot of files I'm trying to [2:51:44, 2:51:47]: But John Wiggins, I think Mr. Knight's is is computing it right now, sir. [2:51:48, 2:51:48]: Mm-hmm. [2:51:59, 2:52:00]: Yeah. [2:52:17, 2:52:18]: One second, let me double check. [2:52:21, 2:52:21]: Yeah. [2:52:30, 2:52:31]: If you assumed that [2:52:33, 2:52:36]: You would receive seven hundred thousand dollars in revenue. [2:52:39, 2:52:43]: Um from ticketing and that again, we saw million dollars before. [2:52:44, 2:52:47]: You would be have a millage rate right at about three. [2:52:50, 2:52:54]: You saying right about three point oh million three, yes. [2:53:02, 2:53:05]: Okay, so that'll put us at uh [2:53:06, 2:53:10]: Better put the city of stop bridge at thirteen point eight six. [2:53:11, 2:53:12]: Um [2:53:15, 2:53:17]: Millish way. [2:53:18, 2:53:19]: Let me make sure I'm clear about [2:53:21, 2:53:22]: And make sure I'm clear about that. [2:53:23, 2:53:24]: You'd be talking about [2:53:24, 2:53:30]: If we if we're gonna assume the seven hundred thousand or or the mil, we're gonna assume that. [2:53:30, 2:53:32]: Let's just assume you're correct. [2:53:32, 2:53:40]: Right now, until you get the figures. No, that's the numbers. That's the numbers. And and I want to be clear. We're looking at thirteen point eight six meal rate. [2:53:41, 2:53:46]: including what we have to pay the county. That's even minus that's even minus the roadback. [2:53:47, 2:53:52]: So we're looking at almost, you know, short, shy of 14 meals that we will be paying. [2:53:53, 2:53:59]: Uh and I just want to be clear with the citizens that they know that when we talk about millage, we're talking about taxes. [2:53:59, 2:54:07]: When we're talking about strategically moving, we're talking about what money is it going to take to strategically move toward what we're looking at. [2:54:07, 2:54:14]: So when we talk about almost 14%, almost 14 mil, 14. [2:54:15, 2:54:15]: [10455.6, 10461.5]: Uh it's at 13.86, almost 14. We're paying Henry County now twelve point seven. [2:54:22, 2:54:26]: Here county is among the counties of the on the highest taxes in the state of Georgia. [2:54:26, 2:54:28]: So let the citizens know. [2:54:28, 2:54:31]: We're gonna be a month even higher than the Henry County. [2:54:31, 2:54:33]: Tax base that we're paying now. [2:54:34, 2:54:42]: If we implement another tax base on top of that, even with the rollback for the city of Stock Bridge, we need to be transparent and make that clear to the citizens. [2:54:43, 2:54:46]: that the the amount of taxes that you're gonna be paying. [2:54:47, 2:54:52]: is gonna be about thirteen point eight six when you're paying twelve point seven right now to Henry County. [2:54:53, 2:54:58]: And with a rollback of 1.84, we're still gonna be almost 14 mils. [2:54:59, 2:55:02]: Which is a lot of taxes and it don't stop. [2:55:02, 2:55:06]: to the to t to pay for this police department because there's no [2:55:06, 2:55:11]: Right now, strategically, there's no plan in place other than bunding three million. [2:55:12, 2:55:14]: And there's no financial plan in place. [2:55:15, 2:55:16]: At all, right now. [2:55:17, 2:55:18]: And we're about to hire a police chief. [2:55:20, 2:55:23]: I just want to make that transparent and clear to the citizens. [2:55:24, 2:55:28]: Um stand by. Miss uh Barber, you were first. Go ahead, please. You were next to me. [2:55:34, 2:55:35]: I didn't raise my hand. [2:55:35, 2:55:38]: Okay, excuse me. I thought it was Sal Shadow. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [2:55:39, 2:55:40]: Thank you. [2:55:40, 2:55:41]: Oh Mayor. [2:55:42, 2:55:43]: Um, Councilman Blount. [2:55:44, 2:55:44]: You're correct. [2:55:45, 2:55:59]: And I've looked at the numbers as well. We would be paying more for police department right now as it stands. I'm again, I'm not against the police department. I think we can do some things smarter than this. I think we can come up with some [2:55:59, 2:56:02]: some type of resolution to make it affordable. [2:56:02, 2:56:04]: But I think we're rushing this. [2:56:05, 2:56:09]: And one of my biggest concerns is that we haven't. [2:56:09, 2:56:22]: spoken to our constituents in depth about this. We didn't ask, we do we usually ask or how do we do this or or or what are we going on? We haven't informed them of what the plans are. [2:56:22, 2:56:28]: Really? Well, we're doing it now, but we haven't had a specific town hall for our communities to discuss it. [2:56:29, 2:56:30]: If we're gonna pay [2:56:31, 2:56:35]: More for police services to have our own police department. [2:56:35, 2:56:38]: That's just and we are implementing a city tax. [2:56:40, 2:57:00]: for one purpose right now. That doesn't mean that we wouldn't implement that to what who's to stop us from implementing or we all know how taxes are, they increase when we have another project that needs to be done, our community center or things that we can, you know, things that will be needed in the future. [2:57:00, 2:57:12]: We really have to be careful with this. It makes no sense right now what we're doing. Absolutely no sense. I think it's poor planning and I think we need additional time to plan it right. [2:57:12, 2:57:16]: It is obvious the numbers are there. I mean, it's been laid out. [2:57:17, 2:57:20]: There's no sugar coating it. It's in black and white. [2:57:20, 2:57:25]: I have I have up here a statement that was we received a while back. [2:57:27, 2:57:47]: Our fund balance remains strong at this time. The council may approve additional$4 million for a cultural art center from future funds, fund balance needed per the financial advisor memorandum. By the time we have to utilize additional$4 million, it will be the end of 2022. It continues on down to say that we. [2:57:47, 2:57:51]: must have attacks in the near future to be strong. [2:57:52, 2:57:54]: It also talks about [2:57:55, 2:58:09]: The Carrie May Hambrick building, those farms that we observe those, absorb those funds. I understand that there was a discussion regarding the sale of property at a time that we would be able to utilize for the Carrie May Hambrick Culture Arts Center. [2:58:09, 2:58:14]: Those funds were basically absorp observed into fund balance. [2:58:14, 2:58:32]: I believe that figure was$2.7 million. There are dedicating funding sources that we need to tap into, including the American Rescue Plan for Water and Sewer Projects, T S PLOS, if it passes for transportation, before furthering reducing our fund balance. [2:58:32, 2:58:35]: Now these are the words of our financial advisor. [2:58:36, 2:58:49]: We are continuing to reduce, we are continuing to to take on more projects, not that we don't want to, not that do we don't we want to do everything for our community, but we have to do it in order. [2:58:49, 2:58:51]: We have to be smart about it. [2:58:52, 2:58:59]: I'm gonna be financially responsible for I took an oath that I'm gonna do what's in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. [2:59:00, 2:59:05]: This is not my own personal money. This is not my money. This is our neighbors' money. This is our community money. [2:59:07, 2:59:08]: And we are wrong. [2:59:08, 2:59:13]: We're wrong for rushing this and just throwing something together to say we got it done. [2:59:14, 2:59:20]: We need to be financially responsible. We the writing is on the wall. We will be paying more. [2:59:20, 2:59:24]: For we're gonna be implementing an attacks just to fund the police department. [2:59:26, 2:59:29]: That doesn't mean that that tax can't increase. [2:59:29, 2:59:33]: We've already they've already said by twenty twenty four it would our our budget would double. [2:59:35, 2:59:35]: It's [2:59:36, 2:59:42]: Uh, operation budget alone is five point something million a year for police services alone. [2:59:42, 2:59:51]: Not to include right now, there's and you don't do a police department, by the way, a little bit at a time. We're either gonna do it or we're not. [2:59:52, 2:59:53]: When we do it. [2:59:53, 2:59:56]: And we released the Henry County Police Department. [2:59:56, 3:00:04]: We have a duty and obligation to make sure that this police department is in full working A class order. [3:00:04, 3:00:06]: Like we want everything else to be. [3:00:08, 3:00:11]: So I think we need to take a step back and breathe. [3:00:12, 3:00:17]: And come up with some funding options and be spar smart about what we're trying to do here. [3:00:20, 3:00:22]: Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, you're unmuted. Go ahead, sir. [3:00:22, 3:00:23]: Um for it. [3:00:24, 3:00:25]: But I'm not against it. [3:00:25, 3:00:26]: And on board. [3:00:26, 3:00:28]: And I'm not against it. [3:00:28, 3:00:28]: Okay. [3:00:29, 3:00:33]: But every word that comes out of your mouth is against it. Every single one. [3:00:33, 3:00:36]: And then you say that we say the same thing, which is [3:00:36, 3:00:37]: Let's wait. [3:00:38, 3:00:39]: Wait till win. [3:00:41, 3:00:42]: This is what [3:00:42, 3:00:44]: confounds the public. [3:00:44, 3:00:47]: You continue to tell us about the text. [3:00:48, 3:00:49]: Right. You continue. [3:00:49, 3:00:54]: The the public knows. Why does the public know? Because you tell them at every meeting. [3:00:55, 3:01:05]: Every single meeting you tell them. So they're not listening to you. They're not hearing you say it. They hear you say it at every meeting we have. [3:01:06, 3:01:12]: They see you say it on next door. They see you say it on Facebook. They see you say it. [3:01:13, 3:01:23]: It's been written in the newspaper, in the AJC, in the Henry Harold. It was on TV on channel two and five and eleven. [3:01:24, 3:01:43]: So how is it that the citizens don't know? They do know. They know because you tell them. They know because we have two town halls in Tolkien. We know because I know the mayor has mentioned it numerous times. Every time we talk about this subject, the mayor mentions it too. [3:01:44, 3:01:49]: I know because I mention it too. I tell people every time. [3:01:49, 3:01:53]: Okay, the tax will be about twenty dollars a month. [3:01:54, 3:01:56]: Fifteen to twenty dollars a month. [3:01:57, 3:02:02]: But the one thing that I realize and I hear back from those citizens every single time is real true. [3:02:03, 3:02:10]: You spent twenty million dollars on the amphitheater and you tell me you can't provide a police department and keep me safe. [3:02:11, 3:02:28]: It sounds ludicrous when a facility, when a when a when when you say, well, we got the c community center, we got the cultural arts center, we got the amphitheater. Number one is public safety. The number one responsibility of all of us. [3:02:28, 3:02:30]: Із публік safety. [3:02:31, 3:02:44]: If I thought that we weren't gonna move forward with the police department from twenty fifteen on, I have said I wanna I I thought we should have a police department. And I believed in my heart that one day God would deliver. [3:02:45, 3:02:47]: the officials to vote for it. [3:02:47, 3:02:54]: And as we were planning through the amphitheater, the culture arts center, uh, the youth and senior centers. [3:02:55, 3:02:56]: I always [3:02:56, 3:02:57]: Contemplate it. [3:02:57, 3:03:00]: That we would keep them safe with public safety. [3:03:01, 3:03:03]: Otherwise I wouldn't have been considering them. [3:03:04, 3:03:07]: Because in the end, if they're not safe. [3:03:08, 3:03:13]: Nobody is gonna wanna spend time, but they gotta worry about their car being broken into at the amphitheater. [3:03:13, 3:03:18]: or the Cultural Arts Center or downtown. Nobody's gonna wanna come. [3:03:19, 3:03:19]: Okay. [3:03:20, 3:03:21]: We know just. [3:03:21, 3:03:26]: in the in the in the past I don't want to w heighten a little I don't want to scare anybody. [3:03:27, 3:03:30]: But the fact is violent crime is up in the city and around us. [3:03:31, 3:03:39]: Just the other day, two more people were discovered deceased. Just the other day in our city, in the city limits. [3:03:40, 3:03:45]: Just a month ago, two people were found passed away just outside the city limits. [3:03:45, 3:03:47]: the victim of crime. We know that. [3:03:48, 3:03:55]: We know the aggravated assaults are up. We know the petty crime is up. We already know all of these things are coming. [3:03:56, 3:04:04]: And it would be irresponsible of us to invite 4,200 people downtown to our downtown every single month repeatedly. [3:04:05, 3:04:05]: Knowing that [3:04:06, 3:04:08]: Hit the mayor? [3:04:08, 3:04:28]: Myself and Mr. Knighton are on a call weekly with the COVID. And the county has made it absolutely clear, do not try to overtax them with anything else outside of their responsibility, because the answer is going to be no, because they have a primary responsibility to keep their facilities safe. And that's [3:04:28, 3:04:32]: That's why we have to primarily look after the paramedics and everything at the amphitheater. [3:04:33, 3:04:35]: But let me say it again. [3:04:35, 3:04:37]: I think Councilman Thomas. [3:04:38, 3:04:41]: I thank Councilwoman Barber for having the courage. [3:04:41, 3:04:44]: To bond the three milyen dollars. [3:04:44, 3:04:45]: First. [3:04:45, 3:04:56]: before they bundled the the the final payment for the amphitheater, before they bunded the cultural art center, because that's what laid the foundation for us to be able to do. [3:04:56, 3:04:58]: Вот виду тудей. [3:04:59, 3:05:01]: It is about keeping our community safe. [3:05:02, 3:05:05]: See, the issue is the city of McDonough [3:05:05, 3:05:10]: Their police department is why they're growing and one of the the people can look to see. [3:05:11, 3:05:24]: When they go to South Point Retail to JC Penney, you're gonna see a McDonald police department car. And you'll probably see a heat a Henry County Police Department car too. So they have double protection. When you go down to Tanger Outlet, [3:05:25, 3:05:34]: And you see, you'll see a Henry County police department car and you'll see a Locust Grove police department car. When you go over to Hampton, the same thing. [3:05:34, 3:05:35]: The problem is [3:05:35, 3:05:39]: Stockbridge has the largest population. [3:05:40, 3:05:48]: I'm not talking about what the census says. We honestly know that the 30281 zip code has 70,000 people in it. [3:05:48, 3:05:53]: And our city limits are surrounded by the three oh two eight one zip code. So it's certainly not. [3:05:54, 3:06:06]: Certainly not just 29,000 because if you took everybody in the stock bridge zip code, you'd have 70,000 plus people. That's what we're really serving here in this community. [3:06:06, 3:06:07]: I hear [3:06:08, 3:06:16]: And I'm gonna close here within the next 60 seconds. The next time, every time I hear uh, you know, councilman Blount or councilman uh councilman [3:06:17, 3:06:21]: Again, say um for the police department, but neither one of them have put forward [3:06:21, 3:06:23]: Any plan at all. [3:06:24, 3:06:30]: To say this is what we should do. They just say tax, tax, tax, tax, scare, scare, scare, scare. [3:06:31, 3:06:33]: No, no, no, no, you're not gonna pay. [3:06:34, 3:06:47]: Okay, that's that's not leadership. Fear that's fear-mongering to make sure that we do what we need to do. But in the end, we will be judged by the decisions that we make to keep this community safe. [3:06:47, 3:06:49]: We have a candidate right now. [3:06:49, 3:06:52]: That we m we that we can consider to bring on board. [3:06:52, 3:06:53]: We might do that. [3:06:54, 3:06:56]: And I and I advise us to do that because in the end. [3:06:57, 3:07:01]: We're gonna be judged on the public safety, not on the amphitheater. [3:07:01, 3:07:06]: Not on any of these other projects, but whether we keep the community safe. Thank you. [3:07:07, 3:07:08]: It's good. [3:07:08, 3:07:09]: Go ahead, please. [3:07:10, 3:07:10]: Thank you, Mayor. [3:07:11, 3:07:16]: And um Mayor Persim, I have to totally disagree with your statement. [3:07:17, 3:07:31]: When I say that I am for a police department, I mean I am for a police department. I do have solutions and financial solutions that we need to research everyone. What are they? What are they? [3:07:31, 3:07:47]: Go ahead. We we we will have other solutions and once they are, and you know me, I'm when I pull up everything and once everything is researched and once we get everything together, and once I get everything together, then I'll I'll present it to you. I have no problem doing that, sir. [3:07:48, 3:08:06]: The problem I have is no,$3 million was not thought of when we originally first started bunding. I received a phone call from you at the 18th hour, right before a council meeting, saying you were going to add$3 million so that the citizens would be okay with the other amount of money that we were bunding. [3:08:07, 3:08:08]: And that's the truth. [3:08:08, 3:08:13]: Now I'm uh what I'm here for today is saying why what's the rush? [3:08:14, 3:08:15]: We are not [3:08:16, 3:08:17]: Unsafe. [3:08:18, 3:08:24]: We have the same police services that we would be providing to our citizens right now. [3:08:24, 3:08:29]: We're not going without police tomorrow. We're not going without police at our first concert. [3:08:30, 3:08:35]: Police are we can't stop crime. Law enforcement. [3:08:35, 3:08:37]: is to enforce the law. [3:08:38, 3:08:47]: So all the scare tactics, the scare tactics would be, oh my God, we need to be concerned about the safety of our citizens, as if. [3:08:48, 3:08:59]: The Pol Herman County Police Department, who does an excellent job, aren't doing a job, aren't doing their job. That's not the case. The case is, yes, we are the one of the largest cities here. [3:08:59, 3:09:19]: And yes, we should get a police department, but we when we get one, we should be smart about it. The county wants us to have one. History would show that. And I truly believe that this stems from those mechanisms of people saying, oh, Stockbridge needs a police department. Citizens saying, even when we were out. [3:09:19, 3:09:24]: for the when we were doing the whole cityhood fight. [3:09:25, 3:09:25]: Oh. [3:09:26, 3:09:29]: P citizens w stated that they wanted a police department. [3:09:30, 3:09:30]: Well then [3:09:31, 3:09:42]: In the Eagles Landed side, citizens want a police department, but they didn't vote for that. They voted to stay in Stockbridge because guess what? People didn't want to be taxed. That was the other issue. [3:09:42, 3:10:02]: And we need to address that. Yes, the mayor has said we're gonna get a millage. Yes, our city manager said we're gonna get a millage, but that could be misleading. Some people think an additional millage on the tax may come from the county. That's not the case. What we're saying is we're going to have a city property tax. [3:10:02, 3:10:06]: tax. So you're gonna be paying the county and you're gonna be paying the city. [3:10:07, 3:10:11]: We all know what that means. And guess what? We're paying more. [3:10:12, 3:10:13]: We're gonna pay more. [3:10:13, 3:10:15]: And it doesn't go down. [3:10:15, 3:10:20]: By no means, I'm not here to sugarcoat. This is not a up for debate with me. [3:10:21, 3:10:27]: It is about the morale, it is about the principle of letting and and being financially responsible. [3:10:28, 3:10:35]: There are other ways of starting and funding a police department. We added three million if it was so important to us. [3:10:35, 3:10:38]: We would have bunded the whole five million. [3:10:38, 3:10:43]: the five point uh three mil that was suggested or five point six or whatever it was. [3:10:43, 3:10:50]: To start the police department. That's what we would have put in there, but we put three mil in, not the whole five. [3:10:51, 3:11:04]: That's because it was done last minute to smooth over the other things that we needed to implement, not to include knowing that we would expand and want the state of the arts art center as well. [3:11:05, 3:11:09]: I'm not going to mislead our citizens. I'm going to be transparent about it. [3:11:10, 3:11:12]: And we are gonna find a solution to it. [3:11:13, 3:11:33]: Okay, how about this? How about Ms. Gantt and Mayor Pro Tem? You spoke twice on this subject. We'll put no more comments from the two of you. I've only spoken once, sir. One time. I thought you spoke twice. Oh, so you always overestimated me. I always spoke to you. No, I didn't only spoke one time. Hold on. Mayor Pro Tem, stand by, please. Mr. Blount. [3:11:33, 3:11:33]: Go ahead, sir. [3:11:35, 3:11:38]: Thank you, Mayor. You know, one of the things I one of the things uh [3:11:39, 3:11:46]: People need to prevent themselves from doing is putting more sugar in a cake than they do uh putting more s uh sugar in the cake than they do salt. [3:11:46, 3:11:48]: Because when you get the cake it won't be right. [3:11:49, 3:11:56]: And and that's all we're trying to do here. When I ran for office and took office, one of the debates we had in 2015. [3:11:56, 3:12:00]: The police department was uh established the police department was on the board then. [3:12:01, 3:12:06]: And the question they asked me is, how would you establish a police department? Well, from what I knew. [3:12:06, 3:12:11]: Is that you would you that you would put it on the splots, put public safety on splots. [3:12:11, 3:12:20]: And then you would get the people together that you would hire to formulate and tell you how to make that happen. And then be transparent with the people on how to make it happen. [3:12:21, 3:12:25]: If if a police department was so important to this council. [3:12:26, 3:12:28]: Why didn't we put public safety on splots? [3:12:29, 3:12:31]: But we put other things on splash. [3:12:31, 3:12:33]: But we didn't put public safety on there. [3:12:34, 3:12:41]: And when we when I hear someone tell an untruth on the tail end, then they're probably telling an untruth on the front end. [3:12:42, 3:12:43]: Because [3:12:44, 3:12:45]: It can be verified. [3:12:46, 3:12:50]: This council sat there and we they decided to burn twenty two million dollars. [3:12:51, 3:12:54]: I found out hours before the council meeting. [3:12:55, 3:12:59]: That a motion, an amended motion, go back and look at the meeting, citizens. [3:12:59, 3:13:01]: An amended motion. [3:13:01, 3:13:05]: To bond twenty three extra million toward a police apartment was brought forward. [3:13:06, 3:13:07]: By Mr. Alexander. [3:13:07, 3:13:13]: So to tell you all that that was first, if it was first, it wouldn't have had to be amended on the agenda. [3:13:14, 3:13:19]: So I'm trying to tell you all listen and listen to the truth because let me tell you something. [3:13:20, 3:13:22]: Unless you have the facts. [3:13:24, 3:13:34]: You're not gonna make a a great a a good decision on what to what to do. The fact is that the police department three million dollars was amended on the agenda. [3:13:34, 3:13:37]: To be added to the twenty two milyen dollars. [3:13:37, 3:13:42]: We hired a financial advisor that is continually advising us. [3:13:43, 3:13:53]: But as Mr. Alexander continued to tell you what financial position we're in, right now the city stock bridge, and I'll say it again, we still don't have a plan in place. [3:13:54, 3:13:54]: To five. [3:13:55, 3:14:04]: We still don't have a plan in place, but we can continue to have a council member come on here and still talk about crime, crime, crime. Right now we have Henry County Police Department. [3:14:04, 3:14:06]: What do we think we're saying to them? [3:14:06, 3:14:08]: What do we think we're saying to businesses? [3:14:08, 3:14:10]: What we think we're saying to citizens. [3:14:11, 3:14:20]: When when we was elected into office, what people wanted to see was professionalism brought forward to them on these uh uh on not only a council meeting, but on these Zoom calls. [3:14:21, 3:14:27]: They don't want to see all of this. First of all, you want the truth brought to you and you don't want all this mess. [3:14:27, 3:14:32]: All these crazy rebuttals, all these attitudes, you want the truth. [3:14:33, 3:14:42]: You want the truth. And to strategically move toward a police department, if it was so important, why didn't we put public safety on spots? [3:14:43, 3:14:48]: If it was so important, why wasn't it on agenda and had to be amended to add three million dollars that [3:14:48, 3:14:51]: I'm not gonna play politics with the citizens' money. [3:14:52, 3:14:53]: I'm not gonna do it. [3:14:54, 3:14:57]: We do not have a complete plan in place. [3:14:58, 3:14:59]: For a police department. [3:15:00, 3:15:02]: Mr. Thomas, please go ahead. [3:15:05, 3:15:06]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [3:15:07, 3:15:10]: Mr. Knight, I'm going to ask you to [3:15:10, 3:15:12]: uh repeat yourself [3:15:13, 3:15:20]: uh when you laid it out about the rollback, but let me just make a couple of comments first. And I just made some notes here. [3:15:21, 3:15:22]: Um [3:15:23, 3:15:28]: No one recommended that the police services be placed on splash. [3:15:28, 3:15:29]: You're correct. [3:15:30, 3:15:33]: Uh there with the mayor, there are six members on this council. [3:15:34, 3:15:35]: No one. [3:15:36, 3:15:37]: No one. [3:15:38, 3:15:39]: made that recommendation. [3:15:40, 3:15:42]: So as an alternative plan. [3:15:42, 3:15:55]: Any one of us could have could have made their recommendation. I'm hearing this today, but out of all these discussions, no one made their recommendation. So let's let's be clear on that. No one. Um [3:15:55, 3:15:57]: Henry County. [3:15:57, 3:15:59]: Patrolling the city of Dark Ray. [3:16:00, 3:16:02]: And everyone on this council knows too. [3:16:03, 3:16:05]: And when it comes to and when it came to [3:16:05, 3:16:07]: The SDS agreement. [3:16:08, 3:16:12]: Uh we met with the county manager, the commissioners. [3:16:12, 3:16:14]: Are we met in mediation? [3:16:15, 3:16:19]: And we try to uh negotiate. [3:16:19, 3:16:22]: The S D S D S agreement with the county. [3:16:23, 3:16:27]: And out of that, and everybody on this council know I don't have to repeat. [3:16:27, 3:16:30]: how that mediation went. Everybody on this council know. [3:16:31, 3:16:32]: Actually how that went. [3:16:33, 3:16:37]: And and it was told and uh Mr. Nine, you can confirm this. [3:16:37, 3:16:45]: That they're going to patrol the city of Stockbridge just like they patrol any other part of the county. [3:16:45, 3:16:46]: Лемі сайтис. [3:16:47, 3:16:48]: We [3:16:49, 3:16:51]: Do not get [3:16:52, 3:16:53]: Patrol. [3:16:54, 3:16:55]: in neighborhoods. [3:16:56, 3:16:57]: That's the biggest issue. [3:16:58, 3:17:00]: I'm not gonna throw dirt on the county. [3:17:00, 3:17:02]: On the Henry County Police Department. [3:17:03, 3:17:06]: Um, they do a pretty good job, but I'm not here to throw dirt on them. [3:17:06, 3:17:10]: I'm just saying what we are lacking. We do not get that. [3:17:11, 3:17:15]: Interneighborhood patrol. We don't get that. [3:17:15, 3:17:22]: Yes, we see them on North Henry Boulevard, Eagles Landing Parkway, writing tickets, et cetera, et cetera. [3:17:24, 3:17:25]: I don't see not one car. [3:17:26, 3:17:28]: In my neighborhood, I don't see not one car. [3:17:29, 3:17:37]: Even coming through. I don't see one car even parked unless they're going through a shortcut. I just want to say that, but but Mr. Knight, I want you to go back and repeat yourself. [3:17:38, 3:17:39]: Uh on the [3:17:40, 3:17:41]: The millage [3:17:42, 3:17:48]: That we are paying that the city of Stockbridge is paying into Henry County right now. And I I wanna try to make a point. [3:17:50, 3:17:59]: Right. Uh we're paying about one or citizens stockbridge are paying about one point eight four mils for police services, which equates to about one point eight million dollars. Okay. [3:18:00, 3:18:01]: Now with that being said. [3:18:02, 3:18:04]: And it was stated earlier that [3:18:04, 3:18:06]: If you are a [3:18:07, 3:18:09]: Um homeowner in Henry County. [3:18:10, 3:18:12]: you're paying twelve point seven. [3:18:12, 3:18:13]: Is that correct? [3:18:16, 3:18:18]: Yes, that's about right. Twelve points. [3:18:18, 3:18:19]: Mm-hmm. Total. [3:18:19, 3:18:22]: What whether we do a police department or not. [3:18:24, 3:18:25]: That is not going anywhere. [3:18:26, 3:18:27]: That's gonna be the same. [3:18:28, 3:18:30]: Now with that being said [3:18:30, 3:18:32]: If the sit of Stockbridge developed [3:18:33, 3:18:36]: their own police department and then with the rollback [3:18:37, 3:18:40]: And so I was trying to calculate the difference. [3:18:40, 3:18:42]: In the twelve point seven [3:18:43, 3:18:46]: And then you calculate in the rollback. [3:18:48, 3:18:50]: then you have a a a a a number. [3:18:51, 3:18:55]: And then if you look at adding the uh police department, so [3:18:55, 3:18:57]: So Mr. Knight, so [3:18:57, 3:19:03]: And I think it went to 13.86. I think someone sort of mentioned it. [3:19:03, 3:19:05]: So you're talking about that difference. [3:19:05, 3:19:08]: And and can somebody tell me that [3:19:09, 3:19:11]: That difference [3:19:11, 3:19:13]: The difference. [3:19:13, 3:19:20]: in the 12.7 right now, which is not going anywhere, you still gonna be paying that. [3:19:21, 3:19:24]: So are you saying then that that difference [3:19:25, 3:19:27]: Is not worth having. [3:19:28, 3:19:29]: That [3:19:30, 3:19:31]: Peace of mind. [3:19:33, 3:19:34]: It's not worth having [3:19:35, 3:19:36]: Uh officers [3:19:37, 3:19:39]: Patrolling in your neighborhood. [3:19:40, 3:19:41]: It's not worth having [3:19:42, 3:19:55]: um businesses feeling comfortable and moving into Stock Bridge, potential homeowners moving into Stock Bridge, their kids being able to to to go outside and play. [3:19:56, 3:20:08]: People feeling comfortable enough to walk the trails and to walk and to do and enjoy life in the city of Stalgrid. I'm only talking about the difference. [3:20:08, 3:20:16]: Again, the 12.7 is not going anywhere. So we're talking about that added difference, and that difference. [3:20:17, 3:20:20]: That difference is what you would be paying. [3:20:20, 3:20:21]: To have that [3:20:23, 3:20:24]: elusive [3:20:24, 3:20:25]: Services. [3:20:26, 3:20:30]: that we don't have right now. So and I I'm just asking the question. [3:20:30, 3:20:34]: I'm asking it to the citizens and I'm asking to all of them. We're all a citizen. [3:20:35, 3:20:37]: So I'm just saying uh that difference. [3:20:38, 3:20:40]: We are not willing to pay that. [3:20:41, 3:20:43]: For what the City of Dark Red Police Services? [3:20:44, 3:20:55]: We'll provide that we don't have retina. And again, I'm not going to bash Henry County, but I'll say this and I'll say this to the citizen. And everyone on this council know this. [3:20:56, 3:20:59]: Everyone on this council know. [3:21:00, 3:21:04]: that we have tried to negotiate with Henry County in the best face possible. [3:21:05, 3:21:08]: And we know, and it's not the police department. [3:21:09, 3:21:14]: They follow orders just like if we had a Stark Ridge Police Department, they will follow orders. [3:21:14, 3:21:16]: We know, we know. [3:21:17, 3:21:18]: Where this come from? [3:21:19, 3:21:26]: So let's be clear. I'm being clear with the citizens. And this council, everybody on this council, they know this. [3:21:26, 3:21:29]: They can twist it any kind of way they want to twist it. [3:21:29, 3:21:32]: But they know we have tried in good faith. [3:21:33, 3:21:43]: And for years and years and years, yes, we paid Henry County to patrol the city of Stargrid as well as the neighborhoods. [3:21:43, 3:21:51]: And this council knows where we are today in 2021 and where we were in 2020. This council knows. [3:21:52, 3:21:54]: And they know what was told to us. [3:21:55, 3:21:57]: What we need to do about [3:21:58, 3:22:05]: You know, a Stockbridge Police Department. Everyone on this council knows that. But see, but no one is talking about that. [3:22:06, 3:22:08]: But again, Mr. Nane, if you would [3:22:09, 3:22:11]: Just reiterate. [3:22:12, 3:22:19]: That difference, we're talking about that different. We ain't talking about the 12.7, we ain't talking about the 13.86. [3:22:20, 3:22:26]: But it's that difference. And what do you get in that difference? It's just like if you want to buy a truck. [3:22:27, 3:22:44]: for seven thousand dollars but you want to buy a truck for ten thousand and you're paying that difference because that's your preference because in that difference you you your desire is for something else so mr nine if you would talk about the difference [3:22:45, 3:22:46]: And what is that difference? [3:22:47, 3:22:49]: Did you understand the question? [3:22:50, 3:22:52]: I believe so. If you're talking about [3:22:55, 3:22:56]: The [3:23:00, 3:23:14]: So we're paying twelve twelve point seven right now, correct? Seven three, yeah, twelve point seven three. Okay, so now with the rollback and all of the other amenities that's gonna go into that court, fine, fees, and notes, that kind of thing. [3:23:15, 3:23:16]: So [3:23:16, 3:23:19]: That coming back so that reduces. [3:23:19, 3:23:21]: The twelve point seven, is that correct? [3:23:22, 3:23:23]: Slightly. [3:23:24, 3:23:28]: Yes, yes it does. Yes it does. Okay. So now the fact that we're going to [3:23:29, 3:23:31]: And a police department. [3:23:31, 3:23:36]: And we're looking at what it's gonna cost to do that. So then that is added to [3:23:37, 3:23:38]: Whatever that that [3:23:38, 3:23:40]: Where where we settle [3:23:40, 3:23:43]: in the rollback but then you add the plus [3:23:44, 3:23:50]: That's correct. Okay. So again, so that that's the question that I'm asking to citizens and everyone else. [3:23:51, 3:23:53]: We're not willing to pay that difference. [3:23:54, 3:23:55]: For the services. [3:23:57, 3:23:59]: That would be rendered those additional services. [3:24:00, 3:24:02]: That state of mind [3:24:02, 3:24:03]: We're not willing to pay that. [3:24:04, 3:24:13]: And and that's what it boils down to. So let's not let's not create this whole scenario of taxes on top of taxes and taxes on top of taxes. [3:24:14, 3:24:16]: We're talking about paying for [3:24:18, 3:24:22]: A peace of mind. We're we're talking about paying for [3:24:22, 3:24:24]: Neighborhood patrol. [3:24:24, 3:24:28]: We're talking about the whole sense of security. [3:24:29, 3:24:31]: So that's what we're talking about, paying for. So [3:24:32, 3:24:34]: Mr. Nine can can you sort of just [3:24:34, 3:24:38]: And I don't want to put you on the spot. I just want you to just talk about the difference. [3:24:39, 3:24:45]: If if if you can calculate that. I know you you're not I mean a mathematician. I know you're a city manager and [3:24:46, 3:24:48]: other thing, but I know you're not a mathematician, but [3:24:49, 3:24:52]: Just just I mean, just in theory, just in principle. [3:24:54, 3:25:03]: Well, there you got a millage rate now, of course, and you know, there's a certain millage rate being paid Henry County for police services, just like there are for other services. [3:25:03, 3:25:06]: that the county provides if a police department [3:25:06, 3:25:10]: uh comes into being, you have to calculate what that is in addition. [3:25:11, 3:25:14]: Um to have uh the city's own police department. [3:25:14, 3:25:25]: And you know, that is an additional military. That's that's been contemplated, or there's an additional difference that has to be closed, a gap that has to be closed. That's been stated in the Carl Vincent Institute study. [3:25:25, 3:25:33]: It's been stated previously that that would have to be the case. And there, of course, there are many other cities comparable size. McDonough, for instance, that does have. [3:25:33, 3:25:37]: A public safety uh millage rate. Uh they do have fire in McDonough. [3:25:37, 3:25:39]: But many others delude. [3:25:39, 3:25:41]: You know, in in many other jurisdictions. [3:25:42, 3:25:49]: um have a millagerade as a to as is attached to their local government primarily because of public safety. [3:25:49, 3:25:51]: Most notably being police. [3:25:51, 3:25:56]: Um and so you know obviously that is a decision that each jurisdiction has to make. [3:25:56, 3:26:03]: with respect to uh if there is a millage rate and if that is a service that they want to provide. [3:26:06, 3:26:16]: Thank you, sir. I yield back, Mayor. Okay, no problem. One of the things I think I'd like to like to reiterate is that you mentioned about seven hundred thousand dollars and actually having your own police department means that um [3:26:18, 3:26:38]: Excuse me. Means that the$700,000 comes from enforcement of the ordinances and things that nature, tickets that will occur in the city of Starbury's as well. Now, obviously, those could be citizens or constituents that are in the city or people coming through the city, things of this nature as well. And that's where it comes in the budget that you mentioned earlier about the municipal court in the case. [3:26:38, 3:26:57]: Indicating that the course for 2022, that there'll be an increase in the budget for the municipal court, also based on the process of having a police department and funding that properly as well, which I indicated in my first comments when you first spoke about it, Mr. Knight is I think we need to keep those things in the budget for 2022 as we go down this road, at least have that place marker there. [3:26:57, 3:26:59]: have to continue to have this debate and discussion. [3:27:00, 3:27:18]: on which way to go. That's why I that's what I personally think. And I think it's a smart thing to do that. And that's once again my particular opinion on that. But I'll tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, I we've kind of uh beat this particular horse. Everybody's spoken. I'd like to uh recommend that we move on that we move on. [3:27:18, 3:27:29]: Councilwoman Barber got I mean Councilwom Councilwoman Barber hasn't spoken. Okay, fine. Councilwoman Gantt spoke twice. Councilman Blount spoke twice. I spoke once. That's the record. [3:27:29, 3:27:31]: Okay. Miss Barber, excuse me. Go ahead, please. [3:27:34, 3:27:35]: Okay. Um thank you, Mayor. [3:27:37, 3:27:38]: Several things come to mind. [3:27:39, 3:27:43]: I'm the newest member of the council. So those conversations that the city may have been having with [3:27:44, 3:27:51]: Um the county in regards to a police services, I wasn't privy to any of those conversations. Um [3:27:52, 3:27:57]: I think I did witness some a meeting perhaps some years back. [3:27:57, 3:28:00]: With the board of commissioners kind of urging the city. [3:28:01, 3:28:03]: To establish their own [3:28:03, 3:28:05]: uh law enforcement or public safety. [3:28:06, 3:28:08]: But nonetheless, we're here now. [3:28:09, 3:28:11]: It is interesting to me. [3:28:11, 3:28:13]: Ласт ірвана, а кайман бор. [3:28:14, 3:28:18]: The seven million dollar cost overruns. [3:28:18, 3:28:19]: to the amphitheater. [3:28:20, 3:28:22]: As I began to try to [3:28:22, 3:28:23]: Alarm. [3:28:24, 3:28:25]: The council. [3:28:25, 3:28:26]: And the [3:28:27, 3:28:28]: overruns that we were having [3:28:29, 3:28:30]: All last year. [3:28:31, 3:28:32]: I got beat up about it. [3:28:33, 3:28:35]: at every meeting when I pointed it out. [3:28:36, 3:28:39]: With that seven million, we could have been using that. [3:28:40, 3:28:43]: To help with the cost of establishing a police department. [3:28:43, 3:28:44]: But we're here now. [3:28:45, 3:28:48]: It's just interesting to me that there are council members. [3:28:49, 3:28:50]: Who are now [3:28:51, 3:28:53]: Wanting to say they're fiscally responsible. [3:28:54, 3:28:57]: when we should have been fiscally responsible. [3:28:58, 3:29:00]: prior to constructing that amphitheater. [3:29:00, 3:29:01]: By having a [3:29:02, 3:29:04]: Experienced project manager. [3:29:05, 3:29:06]: Nonetheless. [3:29:07, 3:29:11]: My my take is and I want Mr. Knighton to go back through the numbers. [3:29:11, 3:29:13]: for establishing this police department. [3:29:14, 3:29:17]: In the budget, he has the five point six million. [3:29:18, 3:29:19]: That's for [3:29:19, 3:29:24]: um annual operating cost of a full police department. [3:29:25, 3:29:28]: The plan was that we were not going to. [3:29:29, 3:29:34]: Established a full-fledged police department in twenty twenty-two. [3:29:35, 3:29:38]: We're discussing the budget for twenty twenty two. [3:29:39, 3:29:41]: So that five point six million dollars. [3:29:42, 3:29:48]: Is a bit much because we're not establishing a full police department next year. [3:29:48, 3:29:50]: And the same with the courts. [3:29:50, 3:29:54]: I assume that their budget is based on us establishing. [3:29:54, 3:29:58]: A full fledged police department next year. [3:29:59, 3:30:00]: I don't support that. [3:30:01, 3:30:04]: What I supported when we discussed this that we were start [3:30:04, 3:30:06]: Small we would start slow. [3:30:07, 3:30:07]: And small. [3:30:08, 3:30:09]: So [3:30:09, 3:30:10]: Next year. [3:30:11, 3:30:16]: I do not anticipate that we're gonna hire fifty-seven police officers. [3:30:17, 3:30:17]: We're not. [3:30:18, 3:30:21]: I feel most comfortable with starting slow. [3:30:22, 3:30:31]: In fact, if we can hire a police chief, a consultant, or someone to help us chart the course going forward. [3:30:32, 3:30:36]: The reason why we don't have a plan is because none of us on here. [3:30:37, 3:30:39]: Are experts in law enforcement? [3:30:40, 3:30:41]: We need a chief here. [3:30:42, 3:30:44]: To help us chart the course going forward. [3:30:45, 3:30:46]: Which is why [3:30:47, 3:30:47]: Um [3:30:48, 3:30:49]: we're trying to hire one. [3:30:50, 3:30:52]: So we can move this along. [3:30:53, 3:30:55]: What I think about um public safety. [3:30:56, 3:30:57]: Four. [3:30:57, 3:31:01]: Us establishing this um amphitheater. [3:31:01, 3:31:07]: It's gonna bring thousands of people to one central location that's our downtown area. [3:31:08, 3:31:10]: Most of us live [3:31:11, 3:31:14]: More than a mile away from the downtown area. [3:31:15, 3:31:18]: I think about those businesses and residents. [3:31:18, 3:31:19]: That lives [3:31:20, 3:31:22]: In close proximity to the amphitheater. [3:31:23, 3:31:25]: During these concerts and events [3:31:26, 3:31:29]: They're the ones who are gonna be most impacted. [3:31:30, 3:31:36]: Yes, we'll have Heron County police and perhaps even the Sheriff's Department helping with traffic control. [3:31:37, 3:31:38]: But long after. [3:31:39, 3:31:40]: The events are over. [3:31:41, 3:31:43]: Those residents and businesses. [3:31:43, 3:31:47]: still have to deal with the pedestrian and vehicular traffic there. [3:31:48, 3:31:50]: I think about the downtown area. [3:31:51, 3:31:56]: those businesses and residents who have not been given the type of [3:31:56, 3:31:57]: Um [3:31:58, 3:31:59]: Safety. [3:31:59, 3:32:00]: They deserve. [3:32:00, 3:32:01]: They've been asking. [3:32:02, 3:32:03]: They've been asking for help. [3:32:04, 3:32:05]: They've been asking. [3:32:05, 3:32:08]: That we increase the patrols in their areas. [3:32:09, 3:32:11]: Now is not the time for us to [3:32:12, 3:32:13]: argue about it. [3:32:14, 3:32:18]: Let's bring our ideas here to the meetings. Let's discuss them. [3:32:20, 3:32:24]: Англий супорт стартін сло. [3:32:24, 3:32:25]: And it's mall. [3:32:26, 3:32:27]: And gradually work our way up. [3:32:28, 3:32:29]: Mr. Knighton. [3:32:30, 3:32:38]: If you would please, sir, your slide, can you show them again that shows the the revenue, the expenses? [3:32:46, 3:32:47]: Give me one second to [3:33:05, 3:33:18]: Now I know that current uh millage rate, the 12.73. Um that includes all of the taxes, includes what we pay into the schools. Is that correct, Mr. Knighton? [3:33:19, 3:33:23]: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you say that again. The current millage rate. [3:33:23, 3:33:27]: Yet the overall current millage rate that we pay to Herman County. [3:33:28, 3:33:30]: That's the twelve point seven three. [3:33:31, 3:33:38]: That's correct. Yes. Okay. That includes what we pay into the schools, the school board. [3:33:39, 3:33:40]: Public safety. [3:33:41, 3:33:42]: Right. [3:33:42, 3:33:48]: I don't think that does. That that's just not because the school mileage rate is a different millage rate. [3:33:48, 3:33:49]: Is it okay. [3:33:50, 3:33:50]: Yeah. [3:33:51, 3:33:54]: So that 12.73, tell me what does it include then? [3:33:54, 3:33:56]: It includes, it includes. [3:33:56, 3:33:58]: Um the [3:33:58, 3:34:00]: County Millage hold on one second, let me pull this up. [3:34:04, 3:34:06]: Um it includes the full county millage rate. [3:34:08, 3:34:09]: But the county has [3:34:10, 3:34:16]: For um its services that it provides. It also includes a fire millage rate, a police millage rate. [3:34:17, 3:34:19]: The recreation mileage rate as well. [3:34:23, 3:34:30]: Fire police, recreation, those are all included, as well as the the standard county military. [3:34:30, 3:34:33]: Okay, that's all it's twelve point seven three. [3:34:34, 3:34:35]: That's correct, yes. [3:34:36, 3:34:38]: So when you mention about the rollback. [3:34:39, 3:34:40]: You mean only [3:34:41, 3:34:41]: [12881.7, 12882.9]: Public safety. [3:34:43, 3:34:46]: aspect of that current will trade will be rolling. [3:34:46, 3:34:48]: That is correct, yes. [3:34:48, 3:34:51]: So this rollback that you have on the slide, the one point [3:34:52, 3:35:00]: Um eighty four million dollars. Yes. Is that the rollback that we can anticipate or for police? For police, yes. Only for police. That's right. [3:35:02, 3:35:03]: Okay. [3:35:04, 3:35:09]: Okay. And you have the cost of a full police annually five point six. [3:35:09, 3:35:12]: Right. That was based on the Carl Vinson study. That is correct. [3:35:12, 3:35:13]: Okay. [3:35:13, 3:35:17]: We're not starting a full fledged police department. [3:35:18, 3:35:20]: So if we can just say half of that. [3:35:20, 3:35:21]: Um [3:35:21, 3:35:25]: operating budget just for next year in 2022. [3:35:27, 3:35:28]: Um [3:35:28, 3:35:29]: Half of that. [3:35:34, 3:35:41]: Okay. And what did you say the estimated um military will be after the rollback? [3:35:44, 3:35:46]: For us starting our own police. [3:36:03, 3:36:08]: I'm sorry. The question was how much was the would the [3:36:09, 3:36:10]: Rollback B. [3:36:12, 3:36:14]: after the rollback has been applied. [3:36:14, 3:36:17]: What is the estimated millage rate? [3:36:17, 3:36:19]: that we'll pay to the county. [3:36:19, 3:36:21]: And what is the estimated? [3:36:22, 3:36:24]: New Millage Rate. [3:36:24, 3:36:27]: We would establish or impose for the city. [3:36:29, 3:36:33]: Not dancing, but earlier I thought we thought well it was thirteen point eight six. I thought it was. [3:36:36, 3:36:41]: So it's the difference of the 13.86 and the 12.73. [3:36:41, 3:36:44]: One point one two seven is the difference. [3:36:49, 3:36:49]: Okay. [3:36:51, 3:36:58]: And one half of five point five four uh five point six million actually well could be three million in sense that's what's what already been bonded. [3:36:59, 3:36:59]: Very much. [3:37:04, 3:37:05]: But [3:37:07, 3:37:08]: [13032.0, 13033.2]: Mr. Thomas Guayas sir. [3:37:16, 3:37:19]: Сі, да із пон. [3:37:19, 3:37:21]: that I am trying to make. [3:37:21, 3:37:23]: Again, uh [3:37:23, 3:37:24]: The difference. [3:37:25, 3:37:26]: That's the issue, the difference. [3:37:27, 3:37:30]: And if you calculate that difference out. [3:37:30, 3:37:31]: Um [3:37:31, 3:37:38]: And you add that to your to your monthly escrow and whatever that balance may be at the end of the year. [3:37:39, 3:37:41]: That's the issue. [3:37:41, 3:37:43]: Um you know, we we're trying to [3:37:45, 3:37:48]: pretend that it's something in different. [3:37:48, 3:37:50]: But but but but that is the if [3:37:50, 3:37:56]: So let let me go here, Mary. And I know this is my second time speaking and this is my last time speaking on this subject. [3:37:56, 3:37:56]: All right. [3:37:57, 3:37:58]: Um [3:37:59, 3:38:01]: I do not recall at any time. [3:38:02, 3:38:05]: We have been talking about policing. [3:38:05, 3:38:07]: And Stockbridge. [3:38:07, 3:38:10]: Since Mark Alcon was the mayor. [3:38:11, 3:38:13]: And you figure that out, how long ago that's been. [3:38:14, 3:38:17]: We have been talking about policings in Starkridge. [3:38:18, 3:38:20]: I have not heard [3:38:21, 3:38:23]: Any alternative [3:38:24, 3:38:25]: solution [3:38:26, 3:38:27]: Two police in [3:38:28, 3:38:29]: And Stark Ridge. [3:38:30, 3:38:32]: Other than what we are proposing right now. [3:38:33, 3:38:34]: I have not heard [3:38:35, 3:38:39]: Any solution I have not heard any. [3:38:39, 3:38:43]: proposal. I haven't heard any other suggestion. [3:38:43, 3:38:45]: From any one [3:38:46, 3:38:47]: Over all of these years. [3:38:48, 3:38:54]: Again, it's easy to complain. It's easy to criticize. [3:38:55, 3:38:56]: I'm open. [3:38:56, 3:38:58]: To hearing and listening. [3:38:59, 3:39:02]: to any alternative. I think I am a fair thinking person. [3:39:03, 3:39:05]: And and and and my way [3:39:06, 3:39:08]: It's not always the right way. [3:39:08, 3:39:14]: So let me hear, let me hear something. And I possibly could agree with that. [3:39:14, 3:39:16]: But if I don't hear nothing but crickets. [3:39:17, 3:39:21]: I don't have nothing to bash that off or to agree with. [3:39:22, 3:39:33]: But I I'll say this now, we're talking about Stockbridge and a vibrant and a robust city and moving forward and creating a great city and this and that. [3:39:34, 3:39:37]: How can you do that without public safety? [3:39:39, 3:39:42]: I talk to folks in neighborhoods all the time. [3:39:42, 3:39:45]: And you all know the neighborhood that I live in and there are issues. [3:39:46, 3:39:51]: We do not see a police car unless they're cutting through going somewhere else. [3:39:52, 3:39:54]: So if we're talking about the future. [3:39:55, 3:39:57]: How can we not [3:39:58, 3:40:00]: How can we not? [3:40:01, 3:40:03]: Get involved in public safety. [3:40:03, 3:40:09]: And we talk about we're trying to encourage our new businesses to come into the city. [3:40:09, 3:40:15]: And we see the reports, I mean, we see it, we see all of the issues of crime in the metro. [3:40:15, 3:40:16]: The increase [3:40:17, 3:40:24]: We read, we we all watch the six o'clock news, we all read the paper. So we know what the landscape is. [3:40:25, 3:40:28]: But my issue though is how can we talk about [3:40:29, 3:40:30]: improving [3:40:31, 3:40:34]: The quality of life for all of our citizens. [3:40:35, 3:40:40]: the potential citizens, the homeowners that are looking for a city to move in. [3:40:41, 3:40:45]: And and we can't even provide public safety. [3:40:45, 3:40:50]: How can we allow our children to go out and play? [3:40:50, 3:40:54]: by themselves and I know police and you know crime. [3:40:55, 3:41:07]: Look, we all understand what crime is and prevention and stopping. We all get that. You look at some of the cities that have police departments and and you know and and they they got crime. So that's not the issue. [3:41:08, 3:41:10]: But I'm just saying, how can we [3:41:11, 3:41:14]: Talk about Stockbridge being a vibrant city. [3:41:15, 3:41:17]: And we don't have the quality [3:41:17, 3:41:19]: Of public safety. [3:41:20, 3:41:21]: I I don't get that. [3:41:22, 3:41:25]: How can we ensure any potential business owner? [3:41:26, 3:41:29]: To encourage them to come to the city of Stockbridge. [3:41:29, 3:41:31]: And we have no mechanism. [3:41:32, 3:41:38]: to somewhat to s you know, to to help their thinking as far as public safety and security. [3:41:39, 3:41:43]: How can we encourage um new homeowners? [3:41:44, 3:41:46]: To want to come to Startbridge. [3:41:47, 3:41:50]: And we can't provide this. I don't get that. [3:41:50, 3:41:53]: I would feel a whole lot better if we had. [3:41:54, 3:41:57]: five, ten plans on the table. [3:41:57, 3:42:06]: That we can choose from, that we can sort of get into it and work, but we don't have it. All we have are just criticism and complaints. [3:42:07, 3:42:08]: That doesn't work for me. [3:42:09, 3:42:10]: It really doesn't. [3:42:11, 3:42:14]: And again, when we talked about that difference. [3:42:15, 3:42:17]: of what we are paying right now. [3:42:18, 3:42:21]: You can't tell me that it is not worth that. [3:42:21, 3:42:28]: Now I'm not a mathematician either, but I wonder though, and I'm sure Mr. Knight, we need to get into that. [3:42:28, 3:42:31]: That difference, what is that difference per month? [3:42:31, 3:42:39]: That will be added to what we're already paying. And I don't believe that citizens, if they understood this. [3:42:39, 3:42:42]: I don't think they mind paying for that. [3:42:42, 3:42:46]: When you look at and I'm sure every homeowner that's that's watching. [3:42:46, 3:42:48]: Each one of you [3:42:48, 3:42:50]: You have increased. [3:42:50, 3:42:58]: Your security at your house with all of these devices. People are buying dogs and buying guns and all of these things. [3:42:59, 3:43:00]: Why? [3:43:01, 3:43:02]: Because of safety. [3:43:03, 3:43:11]: So you can't tell me this is not a concern with everyone. No one likes taxes. Of course, no one don't. [3:43:12, 3:43:15]: But folks don't mind paying. [3:43:15, 3:43:16]: For something. [3:43:16, 3:43:18]: That is worthwhile and have it. [3:43:19, 3:43:22]: We do this every day when we go out to make our purchases. [3:43:23, 3:43:24]: We pay for things. [3:43:25, 3:43:27]: that we want to pay for. [3:43:27, 3:43:28]: Mm-hmm. So [3:43:29, 3:43:32]: I I'm just I'm just I'm dumbfounded. [3:43:32, 3:43:34]: With this position. [3:43:34, 3:43:37]: Especially if you are not offering anything. [3:43:38, 3:43:40]: Anybody can criticize and complain. [3:43:41, 3:43:44]: So Mayor, I this this is my last time speaking and [3:43:45, 3:43:48]: I'm in the mindset of providing [3:43:49, 3:43:51]: quality of life all of our citizens. [3:43:52, 3:43:59]: I'm trying to create a city where folks want to move into. They want to bring their kids into. [3:43:59, 3:44:07]: Um, you know, I know the whole thing about schools and quality schools, I know that's a big issue with with with um folks coming in that with kid. [3:44:08, 3:44:11]: But this is what this municipality has to be about. [3:44:12, 3:44:13]: creating [3:44:14, 3:44:15]: A city. [3:44:15, 3:44:17]: A vibrant city, as we say. [3:44:18, 3:44:22]: that folks want to come and move to, not just divisiveness. [3:44:23, 3:44:25]: That we show every day on this issue. [3:44:26, 3:44:29]: My thing is if I don't have a solution. [3:44:30, 3:44:32]: I'm just gonna I'm gonna close my mouth. [3:44:33, 3:44:38]: I'm not just gonna criticize if I don't have an alternative plan. [3:44:39, 3:44:40]: So come on, folks. [3:44:41, 3:44:48]: We cannot have a vibrant city. We cannot even create a vibrant city if we don't get in these trenches and work. [3:44:50, 3:44:51]: Thank you, Mayor. [3:44:51, 3:44:52]: No problem, you're welcome. [3:44:52, 3:45:12]: Mayor, I'll I I get my second time, right? All right. Go ahead, go ahead. And and hopefully you will keep it. The number was asked. I'm sorry, Mayor, but but a figure was asked for now. Um we spoken twice already. Point of order. We're going by the rules. Hold on a second. The 13.86 was was the number, I believe that I mentioned it earlier. 13.86. [3:45:12, 3:45:18]: No, Mayor, but clarification, Mayor, the 13.86 is just for public safety. [3:45:18, 3:45:26]: No, no, no, no. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. 13.86 is the entire mill is rate for everybody. Includes everything. Includes everything. [3:45:26, 3:45:31]: No, it doesn't, Mayor. Yeah, oh okay it does. Come on, Mr. Blount. Mr. Knight, will you clarify that? [3:45:32, 3:45:40]: If a meal if a meal if we already have a meal that's coming for for the the twenty five million dollars in bonds, that doesn't cover all this. [3:45:40, 3:45:42]: What standby, sir. Stand by. [3:45:43, 3:45:43]: Please. [3:45:46, 3:45:55]: I want to make sure I understand the question that's being asked. The bonds that have been issued are going to be paid back through general fund and through SPLOST. [3:45:55, 3:45:57]: That's where the bonds are going to be paid back. [3:45:58, 3:46:05]: We're talking millage rate, we're talking, of course, a different thing. Got a base millet rate millage rate of about 8.7, I believe, for the county. [3:46:05, 3:46:13]: Which applies to every jurisdiction in unincorporated residence. Then you have certain other millage rates. [3:46:13, 3:46:19]: fire police, recreation, and so forth, and depending on which jurisdiction provides um certain service. [3:46:19, 3:46:25]: And you have to add all of that. The total millage rate is what 12.733, I believe is the number. [3:46:25, 3:46:28]: For the total millage rate that's being paid. [3:46:29, 3:46:30]: Right now. [3:46:31, 3:46:33]: Um for um [3:46:33, 3:46:35]: Stock breach. [3:46:35, 3:46:38]: Residents. Make sure I'll give that a year. [3:46:38, 3:46:58]: Right. What they're saying is what you're adding to it, the total would be 1386. You've already calculated that. That's he's asking if that's the total millage rate. That but that added rate is for public police services. I'm talking about that mayor. I'm trying to tell you it doesn't cover the amount of bond rate bond that we [3:46:58, 3:47:12]: We've already got to establish the cover. It doesn't cover that. This public service is only. Okay, stand by a second. Mr. Knight just addressed that in in reference to the payment for the bonds. It does it doesn't come to the military, sir. It's what I deserve, is what I understand. [3:47:13, 3:47:17]: Right. You don't the bonds that are being paid by the city, that's the city's decision. [3:47:18, 3:47:20]: To bond projects. [3:47:20, 3:47:27]: And the city then each individual city in this case Stockbridge determines how you want to pay for that. That's not a part of the millage rate action. [3:47:28, 3:47:32]: I agree it's not a part of the millage. [3:47:32, 3:47:40]: But I'm talking about the increase in uh not only just the miller's rate, the increase in the budget, because we still haven't addressed. [3:47:40, 3:47:47]: how our budget gonna almost double in 2024. Where's the nobody on here spoke of a plan. Where's the plan to cover that? [3:47:47, 3:47:51]: All right, Mr. Blount, stand by please. I mean okay. [3:47:51, 3:47:54]: Yeah, the third time there. [3:47:56, 3:48:08]: That's all right though. I'm ready. You let me go. Okay, go ahead, go ahead. Mr. I I appreciate you coming back to me, Mayor, and and going on with this particular issue right here. Let me just say this real quick: Henry County. [3:48:08, 3:48:14]: supports the Stockbridge Police Department. They want us to have our own police department. They've said it repeatedly. [3:48:14, 3:48:26]: The other residents of uh unincorporated say they're not safe up near the Decale County border, the Clayton board. They want to be safer because those communities are growing just like ours and they need those resources on the north side. [3:48:27, 3:48:31]: Based on everything that I've heard today. [3:48:31, 3:48:35]: I'm more now for a police department than I have ever been. [3:48:35, 3:48:37]: And Mr. Knighton has a candidate. [3:48:38, 3:48:43]: that uh is re that he was ready to bring forward to us. Is that correct, Mr. Knighton? [3:48:45, 3:48:48]: Mayor Porn Border, we we come on, Mayor. [3:48:48, 3:48:50]: We can't go into that. [3:48:50, 3:49:10]: All right. Listen, um uh we we did discuss this earlier and and we know where we stand on early. So we we we Mayor Pro Tem you understand we we discussed this earlier in the Zego session. So this I I I certainly understand that, Mayor, but it's time. We need to put this on the table right now. I seek a consensus of the council to take a vote to confirm this in individual. [3:49:10, 3:49:19]: I I I I consent to confirm the individual that we talked about. Mayor, point point of order. See, this is the politics I'm talking about. You can't, mayor, point of order. [3:49:19, 3:49:20]: Just recognize 401. [3:49:22, 3:49:32]: Consensus. I'm seeking a consensus of the council. That's Robert's rules. That's Robert's rules. I'm seeking a consensus of the council. Hold on, please. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. [3:49:32, 3:49:35]: Listen, we just had some discussion ear once. [3:49:36, 3:49:39]: It's about standby. We had some discussion earlier today. [3:49:39, 3:49:59]: And we and we came what I understand, we came to some type of conclusion earlier today in this aspect. Period. There's been new development, mayor. We will I want to see the consensus of the council. Stand by. Stand by. Now um at this point, Mr. Washington, Mr. Barrett, I need your assistance on something here. Um [3:49:59, 3:50:19]: Gentlemen, we we you were part of our conversation we had earlier today, and I have understanding of of some things that went on. All right. And it's something that is new. Hold on a second. If it's something that is new, I think everybody needs to be apprised of that once they [3:50:19, 3:50:20]: And it's a personnel issue. [3:50:21, 3:50:32]: Which means to me that that goes back to the executive session again because of something new that we all know not aware of. What is that? That's what's new is this convers conversation. That's what's new. [3:50:33, 3:50:46]: Okay, hold on a second. So I'm just trying to make sure where where we're going with this legally and things and and legally in that aspect, but also in the fact that this is a personnel issue and we had some discussion earlier today in executive session. [3:50:47, 3:50:53]: So I just need to get a legal readout of where we're trying to head with this and how how how legal or right this really is. [3:50:54, 3:50:57]: Yeah, attorneys, can you help me out or help us out there? [3:51:00, 3:51:01]: Yeah, can [3:51:02, 3:51:05]: Jeremy and I would like to talk about this. Let me give Jeremy a call. [3:51:06, 3:51:12]: We'll come back on in about three minutes. Two minutes. All right, stand by. We'll give you that time, sir. Stand by stand by. We'll we'll give them that time. [3:51:12, 3:51:29]: We'll give the our attorneys discuss. This is exactly what we did on Wednesday. Exactly. Well, let the attorneys have some discussion so they can give us some clear guidance on this. Will you please? All right. Um, so we're what are what are stand still for a few minutes. So it'll get back to us on this aspect. [3:51:29, 3:51:33]: So we'll just we'll just wait them out and see what's going on. [3:51:43, 3:51:44]: Mayor would it mayor. [3:51:45, 3:51:47]: Would a ten minute break be in order? [3:51:48, 3:52:01]: Uh okay, I'll tell you how but what well how about um that's recess for ten minutes. Okay, okay, that's a good suggestion. Oh we're we're coming back in just a second. Okay, okay no, no he said he's coming back. He heard he said he's coming back. So just stand by folks, just stand by. [3:52:26, 3:52:33]: Mayor, I apologize for that. Quentin and I spoke and and yes, we agree with you that it it was our understanding that coming out of executive session [3:52:33, 3:52:39]: We thought we knew where the council was. If something's changed, then perhaps we need to go back into executive session, but we agree with what you said. [3:52:40, 3:52:40]: All right. [3:52:41, 3:53:01]: Now, on that note, then if if Mayor Pro Tem you want some additional changes, then we need to go back in the session second session and talk up, discuss about what this additional change in and get a readout from the council and then come back out and if we're going to make a decision and make that and that announcement. And this aspect, if that is the case. Other than that, I think we other than that, I think we need to move forward. [3:53:01, 3:53:08]: With what's what what's on next on the agenda. Uh Mayor, I don't think Jerry, Jeremy, this is exactly the same thing we did on Wednesday. [3:53:09, 3:53:29]: Exactly. We're looking to move. We must we talked about it in the executive session only. We've got we've already got legal on that. He didn't understand what we were talking about. There's two that's two there's two attorneys and both and it's there's two attorneys. Uh they're both discussing this. So if you if we want to go in executive session, we'll go in exactly and discuss this. If that is the case. We've already [3:53:29, 3:53:33]: already done that. If not, we'll move on to a next next subject. Let's go into executive session. [3:53:33, 3:53:42]: All right. Well, first of all, is there is there okay, so you're saying okay, there's a motion for a second session. Is that I leave me for you say this, sir. What's what's the motion? [3:53:43, 3:53:46]: Uh I want to make a motion to go in executive session for [3:53:46, 3:53:49]: Personnel, real estate, and litigation. [3:53:49, 3:53:50]: Here's our second. [3:53:51, 3:53:55]: Ms. Barber Seconds that all in favor of going to execute station, please indicate. [3:53:57, 3:53:58]: All posed. [3:53:59, 3:54:16]: All right, it passes three, two. All right. So now this Miss Alday along with Mr. Bond, we're going back in executive session. This will involve the attorneys of the entire council, uh, Miss Wheeler, and Mr. Knighton. All right. Everybody else stand by. We'll be back. [3:54:18, 3:54:23]: Uh I would imagine we can do this in about the next five minutes. We'll be back on a second session. All right. [3:54:36, 3:54:39]: All right, Miss Holiday, so far as me and you. [3:54:40, 3:54:40]: Mm-hmm. [3:54:42, 3:54:48]: Okay. Mr. Bonds, I'm sorry okay, I'm sorry, Mr. Bonds. Excuse me. Thank you, sir. [3:54:50, 3:54:55]: We need to actually go back to uh uh recording this with Facebook Live a as well, sir. [3:54:57, 3:54:57]: Yes, sir. [3:54:58, 3:54:59]: Thank you. Thank you for your support. [3:55:01, 3:55:03]: Okay, so okay. [3:55:39, 3:55:45]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're back at the recording and we're on Facebook Live as well. [3:55:46, 3:55:48]: Wait for everybody, at least uh quantum to get back in here. [3:55:51, 3:55:52]: To include our [3:55:53, 3:55:56]: See manager and our attorneys. [3:56:04, 3:56:07]: Okay, uh Mr. Berry, welcome back. [3:56:20, 3:56:23]: Okay, Thomas Blount. [3:56:26, 3:56:32]: Okay, are back in. This Randy Knight's back in. Ms. Gantt's back in. [3:56:38, 3:56:40]: Two, three [3:57:16, 3:57:21]: All right, uh once again we are recording and we're back on Facebook Live. [3:57:21, 3:57:30]: And what I'd like to do, ladies and gentlemen, is uh I want to uh ask for a motion to end our executive session, please. [3:57:33, 3:57:35]: So moved. Barber still moved. Is there a second? [3:57:38, 3:57:39]: Do I have a second? [3:57:46, 3:57:50]: Can I have a second to okay, Mr. Thomas, a second that okay, all in favor, please indicate. [3:57:52, 3:57:53]: Two [3:57:54, 3:58:00]: Okay, Ms. All right, okay, Ms. Uh Gantt. [3:58:06, 3:58:06]: This can't. [3:58:12, 3:58:14]: Nice and well anyway, we have uh [3:58:14, 3:58:33]: three individuals that indicated to go back and uh to end our executive session. I now need a motion to uh reconvene. I'm here from here. Okay, good do you know okay uh need a motion to reconvene our budget uh meeting please so move Thomas so move second is barber second all in favor please indicate [3:58:34, 3:58:36]: Okay, I got two. [3:58:37, 3:58:57]: Aye. All right. Okay, four. Okay, good deal. All right. All right. Now we're back into appreciated motion passes. 400. Okay. On that note, uh folks, we're back into our regular uh council meeting. There is no re- nothing reported this time to the public in reference to our executive session. Our city manager has his guidance on the next steps in reference. [3:58:57, 3:59:16]: reference to the topic we need to discuss. And that the FOCO will come out with some additional information later. I believe on that note that ends the should end the municipal court and police uh department budget uh presentations at this point. So Mr. Nine, I believe we need to move on to our next topic uh for discussion on the budget uh [3:59:16, 3:59:18]: Uh now, sir. [3:59:18, 3:59:29]: Okay. Yes, Mayor, and and Mayor, thank you very much. Um, I would suggest we go ahead with Ms. Johnson. One of the items was to some strategic planning, uh perhaps workshop with Mr. Stark. [3:59:29, 3:59:33]: Um I don't know. I I heard council members, I think earlier mentioned [3:59:33, 3:59:36]: Some time constraints this afternoon. Um so [3:59:37, 3:59:49]: I'll we'll go ahead if if it pleases the council, go ahead with Ms. Johnson's presentation. Meantime, I'll have some conversation with Mr. Stark, who was holding there for a while and see what uh we can uh address concerning that. [3:59:50, 3:59:51]: All right, so go ahead. Ms. Johnson, please. [3:59:53, 3:59:58]: Good afternoon, Mayor, Council members, Mr. Knighton and the Devs. [3:59:59, 4:00:01]: So I'm gonna jump right in. [4:00:08, 4:00:10]: Okay guys. [4:00:10, 4:00:11]: I think. [4:00:12, 4:00:13]: Can you all see my screen? [4:00:13, 4:00:15]: You can now, absolutely. [4:00:15, 4:00:16]: Okay, wonderful. [4:00:17, 4:00:18]: Alrighty. [4:00:18, 4:00:26]: So uh my name is Brecka Johnson. I am the director for community development here at City of Stockbridge, and my information is here as listed. [4:00:27, 4:00:28]: Um our purpose. [4:00:29, 4:00:32]: As I've said many, many times, is for us to foster [4:00:32, 4:00:38]: and administer economic development opportunities that directly benefit the city of Stockbridge. [4:00:38, 4:00:42]: One of the biggest ways we can do that is by educating our stakeholders. [4:00:42, 4:00:44]: Which means makes a huge impact. [4:00:44, 4:00:46]: Managing our land development. [4:00:46, 4:00:53]: upholding property values and issuing permits and licenses with citations as required. [4:00:55, 4:01:00]: Our four pillars of value are how we determine who we serve. [4:01:00, 4:01:02]: We serve our [4:01:02, 4:01:05]: City Council, our city management. [4:01:06, 4:01:07]: And the city of Stockbridge. [4:01:08, 4:01:09]: Next, we bring value. [4:01:10, 4:01:12]: To our twenty nine thousand residents. [4:01:12, 4:01:16]: our business communities and our employees of the city. [4:01:18, 4:01:19]: So our [4:01:19, 4:01:28]: Community development business units and divisions are planning and zoning and geographic information systems, GIS. [4:01:28, 4:01:33]: Which um will be combined to manage planning and mapping. [4:01:33, 4:01:36]: Um projects which go hand in hand. [4:01:37, 4:01:40]: We have our development permits and inspections. [4:01:40, 4:01:42]: And our fire marshal. [4:01:42, 4:01:45]: Our business services and our code enforcement. [4:01:46, 4:01:52]: all again put in place to be the boots on the ground for implementation of economic development. [4:01:54, 4:01:57]: In addition to the peace um [4:01:58, 4:02:00]: uh priorities for the city. [4:02:00, 4:02:06]: We also have ACEs that we've adopted here in community development. And ACE stands for accountability. [4:02:06, 4:02:12]: We have to take ownership for what we do, what we are telling our customers and how we um [4:02:12, 4:02:14]: Track and respon to [4:02:15, 4:02:17]: their um in their inquiries. [4:02:17, 4:02:26]: C is consistency and credibility. It's important for us to establish a level of consistency and how we respond to our customers. [4:02:26, 4:02:29]: And in our credibility, knowing what we're talking about. [4:02:30, 4:02:33]: E is for efficiency and expectation. [4:02:33, 4:02:35]: We wanna be efficient so that we're not [4:02:36, 4:02:37]: overly spending time with [4:02:38, 4:02:43]: customers when they can either get the information online or we can easily let them know. [4:02:43, 4:02:44]: Um [4:02:44, 4:02:46]: in you know via email [4:02:46, 4:02:49]: or have information available online. [4:02:49, 4:02:53]: When we said expectation, that is for plan review. [4:02:53, 4:02:57]: Getting a phone call back, an email, follow up and the like. [4:02:57, 4:03:01]: Lastly is S, which is statistic statistical measures. [4:03:01, 4:03:04]: Which includes our key performance indicators. [4:03:05, 4:03:06]: It determines [4:03:06, 4:03:08]: How we track what we do. [4:03:10, 4:03:10]: So [4:03:11, 4:03:12]: Community development has [4:03:13, 4:03:14]: Eleven employees. [4:03:15, 4:03:17]: And five consultant positions. [4:03:18, 4:03:18]: Register. [4:03:19, 4:03:22]: Code enforcement supervisor and two officers. [4:03:22, 4:03:26]: A business services supervisor and one occupational tax clerk. [4:03:26, 4:03:27]: Are fire marshals? [4:03:28, 4:03:31]: Our senior planner, planner one, and GIS technician. [4:03:32, 4:03:34]: And then under building permitting and inspections, we have [4:03:34, 4:03:44]: a business, uh a building permits coordinator, and then we have five consultants that will switch out and assist with inspections, plan review. [4:03:44, 4:03:46]: and uh civil engineering. [4:03:48, 4:03:49]: Well we've done. [4:03:49, 4:03:53]: And this is since um I've come on to with my tenure with the city. [4:03:54, 4:03:56]: First, intergo system tracking. [4:03:57, 4:03:58]: Inner glove is the [4:03:59, 4:04:06]: public or the the interface that we have for any applications that come to our office so that we can track when they come in. [4:04:07, 4:04:08]: A review процес. [4:04:08, 4:04:12]: Our approval for permits, inspections. [4:04:13, 4:04:22]: and code enforcement. So every division, I've worked with each division so that we are using the system consistently, so that we know exactly where to find information. [4:04:23, 4:04:25]: Without having to call and run people down. [4:04:26, 4:04:31]: Next, code enforce called enforcement blitz events. Those are new. [4:04:31, 4:04:36]: Um uh bringing our code enforcement supervisor on online. [4:04:36, 4:04:39]: We have a two times per month. [4:04:39, 4:04:41]: Exercise where [4:04:42, 4:04:45]: An interdepartmental collaboration of our business services. [4:04:45, 4:04:47]: Planning and zoning. [4:04:47, 4:04:48]: Um [4:04:48, 4:04:59]: Code enforcement and fire marshal all go out to properties to conduct a boots on the ground audit. We are an extension of the business services audit. [4:05:01, 4:05:07]: Next, the UDC is coming to the city council next month, going to plan a commission next week. [4:05:07, 4:05:16]: Very excited about the new code so it'll be easier to understand, less inconsistencies, and a lot simpler to follow. [4:05:17, 4:05:18]: A short term work program. [4:05:19, 4:05:24]: That also is has been transmitted to the Department of Community Affairs. [4:05:24, 4:05:30]: And now it's under review. We hope to get it back and then adopted by October 2021. [4:05:32, 4:05:34]: Next, Bridges at Jodico. This is our newest. [4:05:35, 4:05:38]: Project, a catalyst project to the Bridges at Jodico. [4:05:38, 4:05:40]: Um development. [4:05:40, 4:05:43]: And they're gonna be three hundred and six apartments. [4:05:43, 4:05:55]: and a 6200 mixed use space that is currently underway. We have received submittal for land disturbance permit and for preliminary building permit applications. [4:05:57, 4:06:03]: Next, we created new zoning and overlay maps. I think we talked, it came up yesterday or the day before. [4:06:03, 4:06:08]: uh I think in our UDC discussion that we have properties throughout the city. [4:06:08, 4:06:12]: that have overlapping overlays. So you may have one property [4:06:12, 4:06:16]: that is associated with three overlays. And it can get very squirrely. [4:06:17, 4:06:21]: and inconsistent on how we follow up with our customers on what to do. [4:06:22, 4:06:27]: And we've got code enforcement SOPs or standard operating procedures. [4:06:27, 4:06:31]: to determine what the process is when a complaint comes in. [4:06:31, 4:06:33]: How we manage it, how we report it. [4:06:34, 4:06:38]: and then how we provide stats on month to month how we're doing. [4:06:40, 4:06:44]: And then we have implemented our vacant uh foreclosures registry. [4:06:45, 4:06:47]: We have about a hundred and fifty four. [4:06:47, 4:07:01]: properties on that list, we have submitted correspondence to them to follow up on make sure they pay their fees. And then we stay on top of enforcement at those locations and encourage those owners to keep it in compliance. [4:07:02, 4:07:03]: What's ahead? [4:07:04, 4:07:05]: For the next year. [4:07:06, 4:07:14]: We're gonna be streamlining online application and fees portal to make it a little more user-friendly for customers to apply online. [4:07:15, 4:07:20]: get the review information online and status and to be able to pay online. [4:07:22, 4:07:26]: Next, annexation. We'll have those community discussions that was we talked about a little bit. [4:07:27, 4:07:31]: I want to say the first day, um, and then phase one implementation. [4:07:32, 4:07:34]: We'll start those conversations this October. [4:07:37, 4:07:41]: Update on our occupational tax code. There are some discrepancies there. [4:07:41, 4:07:46]: There are some new state requirements that we want to make sure that we are able to refer to. [4:07:47, 4:07:51]: and um address any new tax information that the state has required. [4:07:53, 4:07:54]: Uh in [4:07:55, 4:08:01]: Fourth quarter 2022, we plan to do our building permit interviews to get started then. [4:08:01, 4:08:02]: Um [4:08:03, 4:08:06]: And this, of course, these things are as a result of. [4:08:06, 4:08:08]: approvals from this council. [4:08:10, 4:08:11]: But we want to plan ahead. [4:08:12, 4:08:17]: Um, we'll update and create few schedules comparable to the Atlanta metro area. [4:08:18, 4:08:19]: Um we [4:08:19, 4:08:22]: Um don't have any T schedules for code enforcement, believe it or not. [4:08:23, 4:08:28]: So when you don't have fees in place, then you have sometimes repeat offenders. [4:08:28, 4:08:33]: with no con with little or no consequence. So we want to we want to manage that a little bit better. [4:08:35, 4:08:40]: Also, we'll continue working with economic development to increase our tax or business base. [4:08:40, 4:08:46]: as part of the business expansion process that uh community development, economic development work together on. [4:08:47, 4:08:48]: Then [4:08:48, 4:08:51]: will address collecting state mandated revenues. [4:08:53, 4:09:00]: I wanted to just jump back for a second to the annexation piece and I will get a copy of this to you all following my presentation. [4:09:01, 4:09:09]: These are the boundaries of the city Stockbridge and study areas based on the Carl Vincent Institute of Government. [4:09:09, 4:09:12]: study that was done in 2016. [4:09:12, 4:09:13]: And they just outlined here. [4:09:15, 4:09:17]: just the areas we're gonna look at first. [4:09:17, 4:09:25]: This would be part of our community outreach. And we also have some of the areas where, if these properties were in play, [4:09:25, 4:09:29]: we could expect to have some revenue um generation. [4:09:31, 4:09:32]: All right. [4:09:32, 4:09:45]: So over the last three years, I wanted to kind of give you guys a snapshot of the last three years in review for building permits, plan reviews, and inspections, and what those revenues versus expenses were. [4:09:46, 4:09:50]: So the average revenues over the three year period of twenty eighteen. [4:09:50, 4:09:53]: Тутаза найти and two tausend twenty. [4:09:53, 4:09:56]: were just under five hundred thousand dollars. [4:09:56, 4:09:58]: Uh, for the average revenues. [4:09:58, 4:10:07]: We paid out a little more than half of that as the uh average expenditures. And those of course go out to the consultant over the that yearly process. [4:10:09, 4:10:13]: We also had an average payment per month of$23,573. [4:10:14, 4:10:18]: And then an average percent payment per month was sixty percent. [4:10:18, 4:10:20]: Which is fairly consistent with [4:10:21, 4:10:25]: Um, the contract um terms from previous. [4:10:25, 4:10:26]: Uh consultants. [4:10:28, 4:10:29]: Somebody kinda [4:10:29, 4:10:34]: change helped help you guys see a little bit better so i got this nice and packed on here for you [4:10:34, 4:10:36]: So I think [4:10:36, 4:10:42]: Um, I've heard from several of the council members and from Mr. Knighton about making sure we address [4:10:42, 4:10:46]: Um building permitting and inspections brought in-house. [4:10:46, 4:10:48]: As a future plan. [4:10:49, 4:10:50]: My proposal is this. [4:10:51, 4:10:51]: That [4:10:52, 4:10:57]: we move forward with an in-house building department in in uh FY twenty twenty three. [4:10:58, 4:11:01]: Um so that I would be submitting. [4:11:02, 4:11:09]: any cost variations for any of these for all these positions in the in next year's budget. [4:11:10, 4:11:11]: So that we can go ahead and [4:11:11, 4:11:13]: On board folks. [4:11:13, 4:11:15]: physically January twenty twenty three. [4:11:17, 4:11:28]: Some of the challenges with this being in a next year or FY 2022 implementation is that we've got a new UDC that will be adopted next month. [4:11:29, 4:11:32]: We've got to shed ourselves from the old code. [4:11:32, 4:11:33]: And get [4:11:34, 4:11:36]: acclimating and um [4:11:37, 4:11:38]: uh knowledgeable. [4:11:39, 4:11:47]: Of the UDC, its requirements, and the like. And we have to do that also with our consultants, whoever we have working for us. So bringing on [4:11:47, 4:11:49]: A new team. [4:11:49, 4:11:55]: during this time would be a a a task. We have kind of a quite of a learn a learning curve. [4:11:56, 4:12:11]: Also, we have limited space space in the building for building staff and equipment. I have no room for inspectors. Um, I don't even have my full department under one roof at this particular time. So we wanna try to incrementally work towards that. [4:12:11, 4:12:12]: Go. [4:12:13, 4:12:14]: Awesome. [4:12:14, 4:12:18]: Bringing in new staff at the height of development or building season. [4:12:18, 4:12:23]: Would be much, much, much of a challenge. We have the [4:12:23, 4:12:29]: um current um contractor who does our building inspections, our permitting. [4:12:29, 4:12:30]: And all of that. [4:12:31, 4:12:34]: They their contract formally ends for the first year. [4:12:35, 4:12:37]: by April thirtieth of twenty twenty two. [4:12:38, 4:12:43]: That's when uh development and building really starts to kick up for the summer. [4:12:43, 4:12:46]: So we want to be mindful of that. And finally [4:12:46, 4:12:49]: I'd love to have an opportunity to create some additional revenue. [4:12:49, 4:12:50]: Um [4:12:50, 4:12:57]: And uh generates to to generate some additional funds throughout the department and as a result. [4:12:58, 4:12:59]: The the city. [4:13:00, 4:13:02]: So I wanted to point out some of those revenue generators. [4:13:03, 4:13:04]: One of which being [4:13:04, 4:13:11]: uh fee schedule creation for code enforcement so we can keep those um repeat offenders um [4:13:11, 4:13:14]: to a minimal level, help mitigate that. [4:13:14, 4:13:17]: We'll also have a fee schedule adjustment for planning and zoning. [4:13:17, 4:13:28]: building and for occupational tax that are in line with our international building code, in line with the state, and or other metro cities like us. [4:13:29, 4:13:34]: Next, we have the Blitz events that I mentioned earlier as something that we are doing now. [4:13:34, 4:13:36]: We have visited five commercial plazas. [4:13:37, 4:13:38]: Which is an audit. [4:13:38, 4:13:39]: Truly. [4:13:39, 4:13:40]: Oh [4:13:40, 4:13:46]: Making sure they have signed permits, making sure they have a business license on file that is current. [4:13:46, 4:14:00]: making sure that they have conducted their um their fire marshal inspection, which is required annual. And as a result of going five places, we have generated$153,700 in revenue. [4:14:00, 4:14:05]: From back uh occupational tax license fees. [4:14:05, 4:14:11]: Um and multiple things. So in code enforcement, we received$300, which are you know three. [4:14:11, 4:14:13]: Three tickets that were issued. [4:14:13, 4:14:19]: And keep in mind when code enforcement goes out to a site, as part of that educating the public. [4:14:19, 4:14:23]: is they've gone out to issue a notice to comply. [4:14:23, 4:14:30]: giving the applicant and homeowner an opportunity to bring their property into compliance. Of course, if they don't, we follow back up. [4:14:31, 4:14:34]: But three tickets isn't bad when you visited twenty or thirty. [4:14:34, 4:14:35]: Um [4:14:35, 4:14:36]: commercial properties. [4:14:37, 4:14:39]: Again, occupational taxes. [4:14:40, 4:14:41]: One fifty three seven. [4:14:41, 4:14:46]: And then annual fire inspections that have been conducted have been 102 annual inspections. [4:14:47, 4:14:51]: So we are continuing to move forward in the event of [4:14:51, 4:14:53]: generating revenue already. [4:14:54, 4:14:58]: Another um overview of for the last three years in review. [4:14:59, 4:15:03]: business services revenue to the average wholetale mobile tax. [4:15:03, 4:15:07]: is four hundred thirty two thousand dollars. This is what we're getting on average. [4:15:08, 4:15:12]: In twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, and twenty twenty. [4:15:12, 4:15:16]: Average impact fees that came on board in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. [4:15:17, 4:15:19]: Hundred and fifty two thousand nine forty seven. [4:15:20, 4:15:23]: average new businesses over the three year period. [4:15:23, 4:15:25]: Two hundred and seventy six. [4:15:26, 4:15:28]: So we are we're building those home occupations. [4:15:29, 4:15:30]: Commercial locations. [4:15:31, 4:15:35]: And then finally, average occupation and alcohol license, we're at 1.9. [4:15:35, 4:15:39]: million dollars that is at the average over the three year period. [4:15:41, 4:15:43]: Other revenue generators. [4:15:43, 4:15:47]: And just showing you what we have year to date. So from January 1. [4:15:48, 4:15:57]: up till today. We have occupational tax and alcohol uh revenue of 1.7 million. We have 183 new businesses that have come online. [4:15:58, 4:16:02]: We've collected$208,199 in impact fees. [4:16:02, 4:16:07]: and over three hundred eleven thousand dollars in hotel motel tax. [4:16:07, 4:16:10]: Hotels and motels are required to provide. [4:16:10, 4:16:15]: Um their tax information the twentieth of each month for the previous month. [4:16:16, 4:16:16]: So [4:16:18, 4:16:19]: After all that's been said. [4:16:19, 4:16:23]: I wanted to bring to you guys the proposed new positions for FY twenty two. [4:16:24, 4:16:26]: I'm requesting a chief planner. [4:16:26, 4:16:31]: that will help manage the planning and zoning section as well as GIS. [4:16:32, 4:16:36]: and will take on a leadership role in managing the planning commission. [4:16:36, 4:16:38]: They'll be there to deal with developers. [4:16:39, 4:16:48]: um walk through any major interpretation concerns and keep moving forward with um the goals of our um [4:16:49, 4:16:52]: our our pillars as well as our priorities. [4:16:53, 4:16:54]: An executive assistant. [4:16:55, 4:16:57]: We'll help manage the planning commission and [4:16:57, 4:17:01]: Handle minutes, handle all the administrative functions of the department. [4:17:02, 4:17:06]: And we'll also transcribe meeting minutes and and the like. [4:17:07, 4:17:27]: Finally, we'll have occupational tax clerk, which we are requesting to be part-time. We want to have, we want to fully staff our business services group so that we don't have any lapses in operation due to staffing out, or you know, if one person gets sick or someone's here or there, whatever the case might be. [4:17:27, 4:17:28]: We we want to make sure that we [4:17:29, 4:17:40]: um prepare and have folks in place in order to manage this piece of it. So we can continue to get the revenue generated as I showed you pri previously. So [4:17:41, 4:17:41]: From [4:17:42, 4:17:54]: The FY 2021 year to FY 2022, the savings is$54,241 with these positions built in, these new positions. [4:17:54, 4:18:01]: The cost of the new positions for FY22 are approximately$136,360. [4:18:03, 4:18:06]: And then I'm wrapping up here with just a budget comparison. [4:18:06, 4:18:17]: over the last two years to show what the differences are. My approach with a budget is to first go in and take a look at what's been spent to date. [4:18:17, 4:18:27]: looking at the actual budget and then what's been spent. And really I was able to strip out quite a bit of expenses or monies that are there that haven't been used. [4:18:27, 4:18:29]: I don't had nowhere to use them. [4:18:29, 4:18:35]: And um I found places where we could do a little bit more uh work. [4:18:35, 4:18:41]: for the goals that we have ahead, the things that we are looking ahead to do in the upcoming year. [4:18:42, 4:18:51]: So here you have each of the five divisions as broken out by budget for FY 2021. We have a [4:18:52, 4:18:57]: a um savings uh through p uh building permitting and inspections. [4:18:58, 4:18:59]: Uh GIS. [4:18:59, 4:19:00]: Code enforcement. [4:19:01, 4:19:06]: And that concludes my presentation. I'd be happy to answer any questions that you have. [4:19:07, 4:19:27]: Really appreciate the briefing, very thorough and and it's an excellent briefing. Got a couple questions for you. I I like the blitz events that you have going on, like those audits. So that's that seems to be very successful. It's a great, great thing. Please continue that. Yeah, please continue that on. I I think that's great. Um the annual fire inspections, you said I did 102. [4:19:27, 4:19:30]: Is not a cost factor assigned to that in revenue generation? [4:19:31, 4:19:33]: No, there's no cost there. That is actually included. [4:19:34, 4:19:39]: in the um renewals for all of the new all the businesses that are here in the city. [4:19:39, 4:19:51]: Okay. And the vacant foreclosures. And you're you're referring only to commercial businesses, obviously. N not nothing to do with residential here at all. Residential as well. Okay, you can't. Residential as well. [4:19:51, 4:20:11]: Because we do have because we were going back to that slum and blight piece. Okay. We've got to identify the property owners that are keeping these homes either boarded or they are just not being utilized. Or then we have issues like code enforcement or police issues or by uh vagrants are coming through, either vandalizing the home or um holding up. [4:20:11, 4:20:12]: In those homes. [4:20:13, 4:20:14]: Um so [4:20:14, 4:20:16]: We're looking at that as well. [4:20:16, 4:20:36]: And I believe that you might have mentioned that if that's the case, that you're working hand in hand with the uh with uh Mr. Peterson in reference to those those those issues with the uh those businesses, those vacant businesses or foreclosures, things of that nature as well. Is that correct? Absolutely. So um we're working with the property owners to find out what are their intentions, short term and long term, to see if there's something [4:20:36, 4:20:46]: are looking to either you know sell or have the city acquire. We're just looking at what those options might be. Maybe some possibilities for um [4:20:46, 4:20:49]: for bringing in some new tenants into that those spaces. [4:20:50, 4:20:57]: All right. All right. So be it. Uh that's all the questions I have right now. Uh council, any questions that you have ma for Miss uh Johnson, please? Anyone? [4:20:58, 4:21:00]: I do. I'll go right here, please. [4:21:00, 4:21:04]: This is in reference to the annexation piece that [4:21:05, 4:21:08]: She spoke about, I'm curious to know. Um [4:21:09, 4:21:11]: You're gonna be conducting town halls. [4:21:12, 4:21:18]: Um that will include residents and businesses in those respective areas. [4:21:18, 4:21:22]: How soon do you think you'll be able to schedule the first town hall? [4:21:22, 4:21:40]: We will likely do it on the heels of the UDC approvals. That keeps myself and staff tied up between now and mid-October. So we're thinking maybe the the second to last, maybe the third week in October, we can start sending out some correspondence to those property owners. [4:21:40, 4:21:41]: Awesome. Thank you. [4:21:42, 4:21:44]: Absolutely. Any other questions for the council? [4:21:46, 4:21:47]: Yeah. [4:21:48, 4:21:50]: Anybody else? [4:21:51, 4:22:10]: I don't see anybody else at this point. Okay. If that is the case, thank you, Ms. Johnson. I really appreciate that. Appreciate your briefing. Thank you. Thank you very much. Uh Mr. Knighton, back to you, sir. I believe uh you mentioned something about uh Bill Stark. I don't know if we want to do that now, do that a little later or something like that, but uh back to you, sir. [4:22:13, 4:22:24]: Yeah, Mayor, I um probably suggesting I did talk to him. I'm probably su I'm suggesting that given all of the circumstances here and I think the time constraints and also um obviously he was on much earlier. [4:22:25, 4:22:45]: That we uh provide some correspondence to the council, the best way to take the next step with respect to that uh strategic plan. So that's what I'm suggesting to you here. Okay, it's fine with me. I mean, in that aspect, uh I would hope that the council would uh would agree to your recommendation as well on that note. Uh any other comments, uh council in reference to what Mr. Knighton just uh mentioned about uh [4:22:45, 4:22:50]: Mr. Stark and communicating electronically with everybody. Is that good? [4:22:52, 4:23:01]: Okay. I I believe that I believe you got to go ahead, sir, in that aspect. Um so to recap, you want to do a recap, sir, before we close out today? [4:23:03, 4:23:05]: You're you're muted right now, Mr. Night. [4:23:07, 4:23:09]: Needed myself again. Sorry about that. [4:23:10, 4:23:13]: Uh mayor and council, I want to thank all of you obviously um uh [4:23:14, 4:23:17]: We all have spent a great deal of time over the last couple of days. [4:23:17, 4:23:26]: uh going over um everything related to budget and projects and so forth. I appreciate very much the time that you spent uh doing this, obviously. [4:23:26, 4:23:32]: You are the leaders of the community as elected officials, and it's important, of course, that we provide this information to you. [4:23:32, 4:23:38]: But we still know that it um it's been a long three days and uh a lot of time has been devoted to it. [4:23:38, 4:23:42]: I'll briefly go over um uh the FY2022 um [4:23:43, 4:23:49]: Uh budget retreat. I want to mention again, of course, that um the budget needs to be submitted to the council. [4:23:49, 4:23:53]: Mayor and Council and for the public by October thirty-first. [4:23:53, 4:23:55]: twenty twenty two. [4:23:55, 4:24:04]: Uh next week I'll certainly reach out to everyone and and send an email. And if you have any further questions or comments with respect to the budget and or need to meet with [4:24:05, 4:24:15]: myself and or Mr. Wiggins regarding anything, we certainly will make that available to you. Also, I want to mention, of course, that we had had a conversation with a financial advisor. [4:24:16, 4:24:22]: Um, about uh ARPA funds. And in fact, I received something even today about ARPA funds from our auditor. [4:24:22, 4:24:25]: And it still seems as the um federal government is still [4:24:26, 4:24:33]: Have they still have the interim final rule, but not the final rule on how those monies can be spent. We do know, of course, that water [4:24:33, 4:24:36]: Sewer, stormwater, and broadband infrastructure are direct. [4:24:36, 4:24:41]: And I think that the federal government will likely broaden it those categories, but there's still some things. [4:24:42, 4:24:48]: Uh related to that. We also had conversation with Georgia Radio Alliance speaking about the upcoming event on the 25th, as well as [4:24:49, 4:25:00]: Um the um planning for next year into 2022. We talked about SPLOSS and LOS SPLOST FIFA. Mr. Wiggins mentioned receiving SPLOST uh five funds. [4:25:00, 4:25:20]: uh even uh the last couple of months have revealed to us and of course t splost there'll be a a continuous campaign for tea splost over the next uh couple of months leading up to november there'll likely be town halls that um are led by the mayors led by members of the legislative delegation as well as um led by the staff [4:25:20, 4:25:21]: Yeah. [4:25:21, 4:25:23]: Additionally, had um [4:25:24, 4:25:44]: The conversation about employee health care costs and the council did choose an option there with respect to health care costs. And we also had a conversation led by Ms. Johnson on annexation, which will lead to town halls being scheduled here in the very near future to engage citizens regarding that. Day two, Senator [4:25:43, 4:25:50]: Around the early morning, centered around projects with Kip and Wood and TSW coming before you. [4:25:51, 4:25:55]: Providing results of a survey that you had taken and also providing graphics. [4:25:55, 4:26:00]: and an outline of how the upcoming cultural arts center can be programmed. [4:26:01, 4:26:06]: Concept plans developed all the way to construction documents with a construction manager at risk profile. [4:26:07, 4:26:12]: Using that framework that will ensure some additional safeguards with respect to cost. [4:26:12, 4:26:14]: uh and processing [4:26:14, 4:26:21]: We also had the DDA um presentation briefly and then uh Stockbridge Downtown Strategic Plan, Mr. [4:26:21, 4:26:25]: Um Peterson gave you an update on that as well as then presenting his budget. [4:26:26, 4:26:32]: And of course, Ms. Kira Harris Braggs um joined us in presenting the Main Street budget and initiatives for the upcoming year. [4:26:34, 4:26:40]: IT presented their budget again with respect to cybersecurity, mainly focusing on that and any support. [4:26:41, 4:26:46]: for additional items like the amphitheater and also also uh police department. [4:26:46, 4:26:52]: what that would entail. Public works uh provided their upcoming budget as well for 2022. [4:26:53, 4:26:57]: uh and the items that are needed with respect to um their um [4:26:58, 4:26:59]: Needs [4:27:00, 4:27:16]: And today, of course, we went through several items, governing body, youth council, clerk's office, financial administration, executive, human resources, non-departmental budget items as well, as well as then having conversation about municipal court. [4:27:16, 4:27:18]: I am police department. [4:27:18, 4:27:21]: And then of course Ms. Johnson provided community development. [4:27:22, 4:27:24]: Goodness community development item. [4:27:25, 4:27:44]: Again, the FY 2022 budget, um, it's very important that this step, of course, is taken from staff presentations and submittals to you and discussion today and over the last couple of days that will be used to form the draft final budget. But again, it's important that we continue to have uh engagement with you. [4:27:44, 4:27:49]: over the next uh couple of weeks as we move toward uh some type of uh final draft budget. [4:27:50, 4:27:56]: and uh be able to present of course a balanced budget to to you the council and also to the citizens. [4:27:56, 4:27:59]: For ultimate adoption going into November. [4:28:00, 4:28:02]: And um December. [4:28:03, 4:28:11]: Um again, thank you very much for um everything that uh you have um provided to us in the way of [4:28:11, 4:28:18]: Uh, thought suggestions and recommendations and input at this point has been very helpful, and the staff will continue to craft. [4:28:19, 4:28:20]: An FY twenty two budget. [4:28:21, 4:28:23]: Around the comments uh that you have made. [4:28:24, 4:28:29]: Also want to mention thanks to uh Ms. Holliday uh for her coordination, her hard work. [4:28:29, 4:28:32]: Um putting everything together, ensuring that um [4:28:32, 4:28:38]: Uh everybody was taken care of and um had the information that they need. The links went out. [4:28:39, 4:28:42]: Um connections were made with people who were presenting. [4:28:42, 4:28:48]: Packets were put together, all of those things. That's a lot of uh work to be put into something like this. And so I very much appreciate. [4:28:49, 4:28:52]: The hard work that she did to ensure everything was coordinated well. [4:28:54, 4:28:59]: Mayor, if I may, I would just wanna thank my team as well. They were part of that. So I appreciate that, Mr. Lane. [4:29:00, 4:29:01]: Absolutely. [4:29:01, 4:29:04]: Teamwork, makes the dream work, right? Zave say. Okay. [4:29:05, 4:29:16]: All right, so on that note, then uh I guess that ends us for uh for now. Our budget retreat uh in the fall of twenty twenty-one for twenty twenty-two is now over. So [4:29:16, 4:29:17]: On that note. [4:29:18, 4:29:21]: Have a good weekend, right? And uh stay safe. [4:29:21, 4:29:24]: Yeah, I'll see you on Monday, maybe, huh? All right. God bless you all.

--- title: Budget Retreat Day 2 date: 2021-09-16 source: 2021-09-16_Budget_Retreat_Day_2.wav --- [0:00:41, 0:00:42]: Morning, everybody. [0:00:45, 0:00:46]: Hey Rob. [0:03:55, 0:03:56]: Morning, Miss Vanessa. [0:03:57, 0:03:58]: Did you get my email this morning? [0:03:59, 0:04:00]: Um no. [0:04:00, 0:04:01]: Can we change? [0:04:01, 0:04:02]: Just enemy there's more. [0:04:03, 0:04:06]: I just need to see what time does uh Interdev [0:04:06, 0:04:09]: Oh, intradev is scheduled for 130. [0:04:11, 0:04:11]: Hello. [0:04:12, 0:04:12]: Uh huh. [0:04:13, 0:04:16]: So I'll let him know. Thank you, man. Okay. Thank you. [0:04:24, 0:04:26]: Also that drive you were looking for city photos. [0:04:26, 0:04:27]: Yes. [0:04:27, 0:04:30]: Put that in the city documents share drive or where was it? [0:04:31, 0:04:38]: It was on the H drive, yes. I don't know who who and events uses it, Shana uses it, Main Street uses it, so I don't know. [0:04:39, 0:04:42]: But it's all of the city's photos for years. [0:04:43, 0:04:45]: So move somewhere. [0:04:45, 0:04:46]: Okay. [0:04:46, 0:04:47]: Oh no, recording now. [0:04:47, 0:04:48]: No. [0:04:48, 0:04:49]: Okay, thank you. [0:04:49, 0:04:51]: No, it says record recording. [0:04:51, 0:04:53]: As we're recording, we're not on Facebook. [0:04:53, 0:04:54]: Okay, thank you. [0:04:54, 0:04:55]: Um all right. [0:04:57, 0:04:57]: Okay. [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: We're about to go now though. Thank you. [0:06:40, 0:06:41]: Good morning, everybody. [0:06:41, 0:06:43]: Hopefully you slept well last night. [0:06:46, 0:06:51]: And we are recording and live on Facebook at this time. [0:07:05, 0:07:06]: And morning there, Mr. Knighton. [0:07:08, 0:07:09]: Hello, Mayor and everyone. [0:07:11, 0:07:11]: Okay. [0:07:14, 0:07:15]: Morning. [0:07:16, 0:07:17]: All right, Vanessa. [0:07:18, 0:07:21]: Mr. Thomas is coming in. Ms. Barber's online. [0:07:24, 0:07:28]: See Johns Wiggins is available. Okay. [0:07:55, 0:07:58]: Morning. And morning to you as well. [0:08:20, 0:08:21]: Um [0:08:58, 0:08:59]: Yeah. [0:10:36, 0:10:37]: Good morning, Miss Gantt. How you doing? [0:10:38, 0:10:39]: Good morning. [0:10:42, 0:10:43]: Okay. [0:10:44, 0:10:47]: I gotta go to court this morning, so I don't know how long I'll be on here, but [0:10:48, 0:10:48]: All right. [0:10:49, 0:10:50]: Oh [0:10:50, 0:10:51]: Oh what? [0:10:54, 0:10:56]: And what time is that, may I ask? [0:10:58, 0:11:01]: Whenever I I get there, cause I ha it's just some filings. [0:11:01, 0:11:02]: Okay. [0:11:02, 0:11:03]: Yeah. [0:11:03, 0:11:04]: All right. [0:11:06, 0:11:10]: Well, we're supposed to have about an hour and a half for lunch. I don't know if that'd be helpful for you or not. [0:11:11, 0:11:12]: Oh Jesus. [0:11:13, 0:11:13]: I don't [0:11:15, 0:11:18]: I don't know where we are on the agenda. Let's see. [0:11:19, 0:11:22]: Eleven thirty one is is scheduled for lunch. [0:11:23, 0:11:23]: Yeah. [0:11:24, 0:11:26]: Yeah, provided we're stay on schedule, that is. [0:11:27, 0:11:28]: Oh. [0:11:29, 0:11:30]: We'll see. [0:11:32, 0:11:35]: I've already looked over the budget and looked at all the [0:11:37, 0:11:40]: The information that we do have available and [0:11:41, 0:11:47]: Right. Doesn't look like much's changed. Right. Well, I want I want you to know where we are recording by the way and we're live on Facebook. [0:11:48, 0:11:51]: Ooh, okay. I just [0:11:53, 0:11:54]: Well, that's good to know. [0:11:55, 0:11:55]: All right. [0:11:57, 0:11:59]: But yeah, nothing's changed. We've [0:12:01, 0:12:06]: Well f for this. Well, it'll change next year with the it's one thing, but. [0:12:09, 0:12:11]: The other departments. [0:12:11, 0:12:16]: Right. So let me think here. So uh we have a [0:12:16, 0:12:17]: We do have a quorum. [0:12:18, 0:12:20]: But we don't have [0:12:20, 0:12:22]: Our attorneys. [0:12:23, 0:12:24]: Okay. [0:12:25, 0:12:27]: Okay, Mayor Pro Tem is coming in. [0:12:46, 0:12:48]: Good morning. Testing. One, two, three. Good morning. [0:12:48, 0:12:50]: Morning to you. We hear you loud and clear. [0:12:51, 0:12:54]: Good, good, good. Day two, day two. [0:12:56, 0:13:01]: Mr. Knight and sir, um our attorneys aren't present. Do you have any idea if you can locate them? [0:13:03, 0:13:13]: Yeah, let yeah, let's do that. I do know that Jeremy will not be with us uh all day today, but let me uh locate uh Quentin, Mr. Washington. Hold on. [0:13:13, 0:13:13]: Appreciate it. [0:13:34, 0:13:35]: There we go. Okay. [0:13:42, 0:13:43]: Good morning, Councilman Blount. [0:13:46, 0:13:47]: Hey, good morning, Mayor. [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: Alrighty. [0:14:05, 0:14:06]: Yeah. [0:14:30, 0:14:33]: We're standing by to see if we get some status on our attorneys. [0:14:44, 0:14:47]: Oh, there we go. Mr. Washington, good morning to you, sir. [0:14:53, 0:15:00]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to start this. I have 905, start our second day of our budget retreat for FY 2022. [0:15:00, 0:15:04]: And uh I'll give the invocation this morning. Please bow your heads. [0:15:05, 0:15:14]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again for to deal with the city's business as you can schedule our budget and work through our budget for FY 2022. [0:15:14, 0:15:25]: and do the best efforts and and find financially and dealing with what we must provide for not only our staff, but also for our citizens or constituents there. [0:15:25, 0:15:28]: Because always Lord's we make good logical decisions in reference to [0:15:28, 0:15:33]: what we have to do for our community. We do this always, Lord, in your name. [0:15:33, 0:15:34]: Amen. [0:15:34, 0:15:35]: If we can stand for the [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: We pledge allegiance. [0:15:40, 0:15:43]: I pledge allegiance to the flag. [0:15:43, 0:15:53]: In the United States of America, into the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:15:55, 0:15:57]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:16:01, 0:16:02]: Mayor Ford. [0:16:03, 0:16:03]: Pleasant. [0:16:03, 0:16:05]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:16:05, 0:16:06]: President. [0:16:06, 0:16:07]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:16:08, 0:16:08]: That's it. [0:16:09, 0:16:10]: Councilman Blount. [0:16:11, 0:16:11]: President. [0:16:12, 0:16:13]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:16:13, 0:16:14]: Present. [0:16:14, 0:16:15]: Councilman Thomas. [0:16:16, 0:16:16]: President. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:16:19, 0:16:23]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:16:23, 0:16:24]: Uh Mayor. [0:16:25, 0:16:25]: Yes, sir. [0:16:26, 0:16:28]: I want to uh amend the agenda slightly. [0:16:29, 0:16:32]: I want to um make a motion to have a discussion. [0:16:33, 0:16:35]: On the pra se on developing a process. [0:16:36, 0:16:48]: uh to bring in a interim city manager. It's to discuss the process. Maybe Mr. Knight already has one, but we just want to make sure we nail that down as we uh tr uh go through these waters. [0:16:50, 0:16:52]: Okay, is there a second to that particular motion? [0:16:53, 0:16:54]: Ms. Barber's second bat. [0:16:55, 0:16:57]: Okay, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:16:58, 0:16:59]: American, we had discussions. [0:17:00, 0:17:00]: Yeah. [0:17:01, 0:17:21]: Well, yes, we can have discussion. Um well actually what happens, no well let me let me mention this to you. I'm sorry. What happens is that we we go ahead and we we yay or nay whether whether we add it to the agenda and then we'll have the discussion during the point of of the actual this piece when it's added in. So we're gonna actually we're gonna take a vote on this. [0:17:21, 0:17:29]: And we'll be able to discuss it sometime during the course of the of the uh meeting. We'll have to add it into the meeting here. Okay. So all all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:17:30, 0:17:30]: I [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: Okay, I'll pose. [0:17:34, 0:17:35]: Abstain. [0:17:35, 0:17:37]: Yeah, I'm staying there. [0:17:37, 0:17:39]: Okay, four zero one. All right. So [0:17:39, 0:17:40]: Um [0:17:42, 0:17:45]: Let me see where we need to where we do need to put this in. Um [0:17:46, 0:18:02]: Let's let's uh let's make let's put it at let's put it at the end of the day. We'll we'll put it at the end of the day and we'll put it at the end of the day to have this discussion. All right, so close out today with this and that'll be uh roughly uh scheduled at roughly at 3 p.m. We'll have the have that particular discussion. All right. [0:18:03, 0:18:10]: On that note, we're gonna add that in. So on that note, I'll need a motion to accept the rest of the agenda, please. So okay, is there a second? [0:18:11, 0:18:12]: I second. [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: Okay. All in favor, please please indicate. [0:18:15, 0:18:27]: All right. Okay, thank you. It's unanimous decisions. Okay, we'll move on. All right, Mr. Knighton, um uh uh recap of day one for you, sir, uh for us at all, and then of course uh then we'll go from there. Okay. [0:18:27, 0:18:33]: All right, thank you, Mayor, and to Mayor and Council and and those who may be watching virtually. Good morning to all. [0:18:33, 0:18:35]: including the staff, I'll briefly go over this. [0:18:36, 0:18:40]: Because we want to make sure we move uh expeditiously into a couple of matters. [0:18:41, 0:18:42]: Uh this morning uh [0:18:42, 0:18:46]: That uh may take a little time, but are certainly significant and important for. [0:18:46, 0:18:49]: Um the city moving forward on [0:18:50, 0:18:50]: Uh [0:18:51, 0:18:52]: Cultural Arts Center project in particular. [0:18:53, 0:18:56]: But yesterday, of course, um we had um [0:18:58, 0:19:03]: uh Ed Wall, our financial advisor on to talk about financing in ARPA funds. [0:19:03, 0:19:05]: uh infrastructure funds as well. [0:19:05, 0:19:09]: Um we also had Georgia Radio Alliance that discussed the [0:19:10, 0:19:16]: Um the upcoming September 25th event, we talked about the ribbon cutting being incorporated into that as well as [0:19:16, 0:19:18]: And some of the operational [0:19:18, 0:19:21]: uh features of uh Georgia radio alliance [0:19:21, 0:19:30]: And had a good discussion about uh planning for 2022 moving into next year. They obviously listed uh certain artists that could be a part of the roster. [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: For twenty twenty two, but they're in that process of [0:19:33, 0:19:35]: Planning out and scoping out for next year. [0:19:37, 0:19:39]: We had good discussion also. [0:19:39, 0:19:54]: um with respect to um employee employee health care costs and council decided and voted on an option, uh essentially remaining keeping things the same as they are going into 2022. [0:19:54, 0:20:01]: We also discussed um SPLOST and T SPLOST. T-Splost in particular is upcoming uh vote in November. [0:20:01, 0:20:08]: And there will be some public outreach efforts via Henry County and an entity that they are working with. [0:20:09, 0:20:12]: as well. And then we of course had a discussion about [0:20:12, 0:20:14]: Анексачн [0:20:14, 0:20:20]: uh in particular in uh moving uh swiftly for town hall meetings, engagement, public engagement. [0:20:21, 0:20:23]: via the community development department. [0:20:24, 0:20:26]: And moving potentially forward with [0:20:27, 0:20:28]: Some legislative action. [0:20:29, 0:20:33]: um to be developed by the end of the year going into next year the year's legislative session. [0:20:34, 0:20:36]: And then of course we also hand on the item. [0:20:36, 0:20:39]: Um re pertaining to the unified development code. [0:20:40, 0:20:42]: Which was an extensive presentation. [0:20:43, 0:20:45]: Uh from the consultants and community development. [0:20:46, 0:20:52]: Uh, with respect to uh some of the items that'll be modified, changed, and included. [0:20:52, 0:20:59]: in a new unified development code. As as uh Ms. Kurzik mentioned yesterday, it's a 400 plus page document. [0:21:00, 0:21:07]: And uh if you want to get a draft of that document, it can certainly be provided to you, but it's a very large document because it contains so much. [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: in it related to development. [0:21:10, 0:21:15]: and the operation of the community development department and zoning standards, sign standards. [0:21:15, 0:21:17]: Overlay standards, et cetera. [0:21:18, 0:21:21]: And so that uh in large part um [0:21:22, 0:21:24]: Cluded today with respect to [0:21:25, 0:21:28]: Um the budget outline. What we want to do today. [0:21:28, 0:21:31]: Um this morning in the session that we have. [0:21:32, 0:21:35]: Uh, here for the next ten or so fifteen minutes. [0:21:35, 0:21:40]: Um, I wanted to uh briefly go over today's expected activities. [0:21:40, 0:21:47]: We do have uh I would like for uh Mr. Wiggins to give a brief overview of the twenty one budget, the budget we're in. [0:21:48, 0:21:50]: Um and then at nine thirty we'll have [0:21:51, 0:21:54]: Um TSW are architects and check and wood. [0:21:54, 0:21:56]: Uh, speak to you about. [0:21:56, 0:21:58]: Plans for the cultural arts center. [0:21:59, 0:22:01]: And moving toward a a um [0:22:03, 0:22:03]: They um [0:22:04, 0:22:06]: uh a certain type of [0:22:07, 0:22:09]: Apparatus that we want to use. [0:22:09, 0:22:13]: Um for how we handle uh the cultural arts center. [0:22:13, 0:22:17]: Um as well as we want to spend some ex uh [0:22:17, 0:22:18]: Um extensive time. [0:22:19, 0:22:20]: With Miss Hubble. [0:22:21, 0:22:24]: Uh, going over programming for the cultural arts. [0:22:25, 0:22:32]: Um and so that is going to to be that's going to be uh it's gonna take a little time. We've got the time spotted there. [0:22:33, 0:22:37]: But we certainly don't want to shortchange that because it's important to engage the council. [0:22:38, 0:22:41]: Uh, in that effort, uh it's important for to get your feedback. [0:22:42, 0:22:43]: There. [0:22:43, 0:22:48]: Also, we'll talk about the DJA budget. Uh we'll talk a little bit about the downtown spot free. [0:22:48, 0:22:52]: Strategic work plan. You'll remember several months ago we had [0:22:52, 0:22:55]: Meeting over at the Merle Manders Conference Center. We went through an exercise there. [0:22:56, 0:23:00]: Um, this will be another iteration of that. I want to bring you up to date on that. [0:23:00, 0:23:12]: And then this afternoon, economic development and main street budgets, as well as IT budget presentation. And then the latter part of the day, uh the public works uh budget as well. [0:23:13, 0:23:16]: And so we want to make sure that uh we give ample time. [0:23:16, 0:23:23]: uh to go over uh uh those particular items. And I think I may have missed Alpin Design given an update on some projects as well. [0:23:23, 0:23:25]: on status updates as well. [0:23:25, 0:23:29]: So with that mayor and council, uh if that is okay. [0:23:30, 0:23:33]: I'd like to give Mr. Wiggins an opportunity to [0:23:33, 0:23:36]: brief you on where we stand with the twenty twenty one budget. [0:23:39, 0:23:41]: All right. Mr. Wiggins, please. [0:23:42, 0:23:43]: Thank you, Mr. Knight. Um [0:23:43, 0:23:53]: Mayor and Council, I let me sh share my screen. I do have a little PowerPoint. Um I'll I'll be brief to try to stay on schedule. [0:24:01, 0:24:02]: Can everybody see that? [0:24:03, 0:24:04]: Uh yes, we can. [0:24:17, 0:24:17]: Okay. [0:24:20, 0:24:23]: All right, I want to start with the uh the FY twenty twenty one budget review. [0:24:25, 0:24:26]: Um [0:24:27, 0:24:30]: First slide first slide talks about is uh [0:24:31, 0:24:34]: Twenty twenty one budget fund summary. This basically just showing [0:24:35, 0:24:37]: Each of the funds in the city [0:24:37, 0:24:38]: The budget numbers. [0:24:39, 0:24:44]: The showing the current the re the revenue and expenses as of August. [0:24:44, 0:24:46]: Twenty twenty one. [0:24:46, 0:24:49]: And it shows a variance of [0:24:49, 0:24:50]: Each of the funds. [0:24:51, 0:24:51]: And [0:24:52, 0:24:54]: What's going on at this particular time? [0:24:55, 0:24:55]: А [0:24:56, 0:24:58]: Close attention to the fund to the general fund. [0:24:59, 0:25:02]: Revenues came in about six point eight million. [0:25:03, 0:25:05]: Expenses went out about eight point [0:25:06, 0:25:07]: Eight point four. [0:25:08, 0:25:09]: Give us um [0:25:10, 0:25:11]: A variance of uh negative [0:25:12, 0:25:13]: one point six [0:25:14, 0:25:14]: Uh [0:25:15, 0:25:17]: That is due to [0:25:17, 0:25:20]: Uh we had to pay on our loan. [0:25:21, 0:25:22]: For this particular month. [0:25:22, 0:25:23]: Um [0:25:24, 0:25:25]: Most uh [0:25:25, 0:25:30]: What's been trending is that we've been getting more revenue than than than what we've been expending. [0:25:31, 0:25:31]: So [0:25:31, 0:25:33]: Uh and then some of the other funds. [0:25:34, 0:25:38]: Um, you see water and sewer, storm water and sanitation. [0:25:39, 0:25:39]: Um [0:25:39, 0:25:42]: These are this this is a mutt coming off of um [0:25:43, 0:25:44]: The minute review. [0:25:45, 0:25:46]: That we are [0:25:47, 0:25:48]: Some of the bills are being paid. [0:25:51, 0:25:54]: Next slide. Next slide talks about comparing twenty twenty. [0:25:54, 0:25:55]: And twenty twenty one. [0:25:56, 0:25:58]: Budget summaries as of August. [0:25:59, 0:26:00]: Um [0:26:01, 0:26:04]: And I won't go through all of this, but it it shows um [0:26:05, 0:26:16]: What happened in August of 2020 as well as what's happening now in 2021. And this is a list of all the funds, revenue expenses, which then shows the variance. [0:26:22, 0:26:25]: This sheet here is a cash flow statement sheet. [0:26:26, 0:26:29]: It starts off with our um fund balance of the year, which was seventeen. [0:26:30, 0:26:30]: Million. [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: It goes through and it shows each month. [0:26:34, 0:26:35]: The actuals of [0:26:36, 0:26:37]: The revenue. [0:26:37, 0:26:38]: And expenses. [0:26:39, 0:26:41]: And it goes through and it [0:26:41, 0:26:50]: Each month and it shows um the decrease or the increase of the fund balance. And right now, the August, because we had to pay on our loan. [0:26:50, 0:26:52]: We uh [0:26:53, 0:26:59]: had more expenses than revenue. So right now, uh I mentioned that yesterday. [0:27:00, 0:27:02]: Uh fund balance is sitting at a fifteen point six million. [0:27:08, 0:27:13]: This graph right here shows three of our major projects that's [0:27:13, 0:27:25]: Pretty much uh if not 100% complete, pretty much ninety-five to about ninety-five percent completed. We have the new public works facility, which came in about 2.5 million. [0:27:26, 0:27:28]: Reeds Creek Trail, 1.4. [0:27:29, 0:27:33]: And the amphitheater complex at twenty million. [0:27:39, 0:27:43]: This slide here shows splash summary of splash three and splash four. [0:27:44, 0:27:45]: Uh splash tree. [0:27:46, 0:27:51]: We're sitting where we've spent about seventeen point two million. [0:27:52, 0:27:53]: Uh we have about [0:27:54, 0:27:57]: Maybe one point one million left to spend uh squash three. [0:27:58, 0:27:58]: Splash four. [0:27:59, 0:28:01]: We spent about eighteen point seven million. [0:28:02, 0:28:04]: Uh with that we have about [0:28:04, 0:28:06]: I think four million. [0:28:07, 0:28:09]: Left the spin out of splash four. [0:28:11, 0:28:15]: Mr. Wiggins. Yes. Go back to that previous chart. [0:28:15, 0:28:18]: Splash or yeah. Okay. [0:28:19, 0:28:22]: Let's look at the Splas three. [0:28:22, 0:28:23]: Okay. [0:28:24, 0:28:27]: And uh the categories for that. There's money remaining in there. [0:28:28, 0:28:31]: Yes, there's still some money left over. [0:28:31, 0:28:33]: For um [0:28:34, 0:28:41]: I don't know completely the projects are right offhand, but it's it's it's a lot to do with uh uh water and sewer. [0:28:41, 0:28:48]: So what is okay so you said so you said there's about a million dollars in there. That's correct. [0:28:48, 0:28:50]: Water and sewer projects. [0:28:50, 0:28:51]: To splash three. [0:28:52, 0:28:57]: Okay, so public works. So those categories I see there was a public safety facility and equipment. [0:28:58, 0:28:58]: In there. [0:28:59, 0:29:01]: Yes, that's the [0:29:01, 0:29:03]: I think that's completed. [0:29:04, 0:29:06]: I'll have to get back to you about what [0:29:07, 0:29:11]: What all that was spent spent on, I think that was spent um [0:29:12, 0:29:16]: Some years later I have to look at the detail, uh deep the detailed spreadsheet. [0:29:16, 0:29:23]: And okay, and while we're on this, how much money is remaining in the SPLOS 4? Splash 4 is about 4.5. [0:29:23, 0:29:24]: In [0:29:26, 0:29:27]: That is coming up soon. [0:29:28, 0:29:38]: Yeah, remember yeah, remember you got some commitments at a splot four, um, notably the road projects East Atlanta and Lee Street. About that's about two point. [0:29:39, 0:29:40]: But two point eight million. [0:29:40, 0:29:41]: Yeah, twenty million. [0:29:42, 0:29:45]: Okay, out of that cat. Okay, go ready. Right. [0:29:50, 0:29:55]: All right, this right here is showing this this is a list I got from public works. These these are some [0:29:56, 0:29:58]: Current projects that can be [0:29:58, 0:30:00]: That we can use uh ARPR money for. [0:30:01, 0:30:04]: And ARPAR is uh the American rescue. [0:30:06, 0:30:06]: program. [0:30:06, 0:30:07]: Yeah. [0:30:07, 0:30:08]: Playing it. [0:30:10, 0:30:10]: And [0:30:10, 0:30:11]: Right now [0:30:12, 0:30:13]: With some these projects. [0:30:14, 0:30:14]: Um [0:30:16, 0:30:20]: A lot of this is engineering and design. I think it's a few in there that might be [0:30:20, 0:30:22]: construction but right now [0:30:22, 0:30:23]: One part. [0:30:23, 0:30:25]: One point three million. [0:30:25, 0:30:27]: for this particular project. It'll be more because [0:30:28, 0:30:29]: Of the construction. [0:30:32, 0:30:35]: And what's the dollar amount we have with that uh [0:30:35, 0:30:37]: plan right now. I mean the [0:30:37, 0:30:41]: What what actually are the funds? What's the amount of the funds that we have? [0:30:41, 0:30:42]: Right now, um [0:30:44, 0:30:47]: And and and I will uh send this PowerPoint to [0:30:47, 0:30:52]: Vanessa, so she can get it out to everybody. But the funds that we have for ARPA right now. [0:30:52, 0:31:00]: It's um five million five hundred eighty-three thousand six hundred and twenty dollars. That's what we have right now. [0:31:00, 0:31:02]: We haven't spent any as of yet. [0:31:02, 0:31:03]: But [0:31:03, 0:31:08]: These are some of the projects that we will be spending the money on. We can spend the money on. [0:31:10, 0:31:18]: Excellent. Do you know of any of the other projects, any other types of projects besides the sewer? I didn't see any that we can spend money on. Anything else? [0:31:20, 0:31:22]: Um right now um [0:31:24, 0:31:28]: As far as uh um the utilities as far as sewers, stonewater and water. [0:31:29, 0:31:32]: And and maybe some broadband, um [0:31:33, 0:31:35]: projects, um what some of the [0:31:36, 0:31:39]: The stuff that they that the United States treasure is um [0:31:40, 0:31:43]: uh provided to us and I think m uh ms [0:31:43, 0:31:45]: Yeah, while provided a list of [0:31:45, 0:31:47]: We might be able to do some other things, but [0:31:48, 0:31:53]: That you know, it's still up in the air about what you actually can do. But we do know that [0:31:53, 0:32:00]: far as sewer, stormwater and water, we can we can we can use this on infrastructure for those particular um projects. [0:32:01, 0:32:02]: Correct. Okay. Thank you. [0:32:02, 0:32:03]: Mm-hmm. [0:32:04, 0:32:05]: Mayor. [0:32:05, 0:32:20]: Mr. Knight. Stand by stand by please, please. Um, I would imagine uh Mr. Knight, in a sense, this at this particular current are per projects, these are also highlighted in uh Mr. Aaron's um uh presentation as well. [0:32:20, 0:32:25]: I anticipate it will be yes in his yeah, we'll we'll discuss some of that as well. [0:32:25, 0:32:30]: Okay. And remember this is the first what they call a tranche or the first issuance. [0:32:30, 0:32:35]: Five five plus million dollars the first insurance will receive another. [0:32:35, 0:32:39]: Five or about five million dollars at some point in the future as well. [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: Next next year. [0:32:42, 0:32:47]: Okay. All right, stand by. Oh, boy, mayor pro tem and then we'll get you, Mr. Blount. [0:32:47, 0:32:59]: Yeah, Mr. Knight, I wanted you to you you understand that we made some commitments earlier this year uh a lot to go along with the T-SPLOST. So there are some commitments where we're doing infrastructure. [0:32:59, 0:33:10]: uh road and um uh sidewalks and uh that type of thing. Can you talk about that? That's right. That's right. Earlier when we put together the T S plus list, there were certain projects that had [0:33:11, 0:33:13]: Transportation related components, but also [0:33:14, 0:33:15]: They had um um [0:33:17, 0:33:18]: Water or [0:33:19, 0:33:22]: Um drainage um improvements associated with them. [0:33:23, 0:33:26]: And at that time, uh when I presented that list. [0:33:26, 0:33:33]: I mentioned that the uh ARPA funds would uh help to supplement those road projects in total. [0:33:34, 0:33:36]: And so if the T spots of course passes. [0:33:37, 0:33:42]: Um then uh with those projects that will have the roadway component to it. [0:33:42, 0:33:49]: would also support those projects in full width ARPA funds for the uh drainage and stormwater components. [0:33:49, 0:33:55]: Absolutely, especially like projects like the multi-use trails on Walt Stevens Road. [0:33:55, 0:33:58]: Uh those type of projects it certainly can help with that. [0:33:58, 0:34:02]: Uh that'll be an exciting project, Mayor. I know you're probably excited about that. [0:34:03, 0:34:04]: Having those trails over on [0:34:05, 0:34:17]: uh Walt Stevens Road, hopefully we'll be able to connect to Lake Spivey uh recreation there and to flipping. So it would be extremely exciting, I'm sure, for you guys over uh along that stretch and all of our citizens. [0:34:17, 0:34:19]: Absolutely. Uh Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:34:21, 0:34:22]: Uh thank you, Mayor. [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: Um [0:34:23, 0:34:25]: Mr. Wiggins, um [0:34:25, 0:34:28]: Well, we talked about Splos three and SPLOS four. [0:34:29, 0:34:31]: My understanding is that [0:34:32, 0:34:32]: Those [0:34:33, 0:34:35]: Those uh splash funds [0:34:36, 0:34:41]: the expenditure of those funds that was already depleted or or already allocated toward [0:34:42, 0:34:42]: Projects. [0:34:43, 0:34:43]: Uh [0:34:44, 0:34:47]: That was my understanding uh long before now. [0:34:47, 0:34:49]: Uh, is that correct or? [0:34:49, 0:34:51]: What's what's actually going on with that? [0:34:51, 0:34:56]: That that's correct. Spa spot street, they they those those funds are uh are already committed. That's why [0:34:57, 0:35:00]: They're not included in anything we're doing going forward. [0:35:01, 0:35:02]: Splash four what's [0:35:03, 0:35:07]: About their four million, so about three million of that that's dedicated to [0:35:08, 0:35:09]: Uh uh [0:35:09, 0:35:13]: The road construction that's supposed to start happening. I think I'll [0:35:14, 0:35:15]: Isalella and Lee Road. [0:35:16, 0:35:16]: [2117.5, 2118.8]: So um [0:35:19, 0:35:24]: Yeah. But my my understanding is portion of splosphor, I'm sorry to cut you off, but [0:35:24, 0:35:27]: Portion of Phosphor was uh allocated to a [0:35:27, 0:35:35]: an internal road at the amphitheater, wouldn't the other three be dep wouldn't that be depleted if the if the if about three million that was supposed to been left for [0:35:36, 0:35:40]: uh the East Atlanta and uh pr uh the other out of road projects. [0:35:44, 0:35:48]: I'm not sure about the internal road was um [0:35:50, 0:35:55]: The internal road I believe is part of the c overall construction of the amphitheater itself. It hadn't [0:35:55, 0:36:05]: It would had nothing to do with the internal road, yeah, it was a part of the overall amphitheater itself and a part of that whole construction project. [0:36:05, 0:36:10]: The external roads, East Atlanta and Lee Street and configuration and so forth. [0:36:11, 0:36:17]: That is out of splost four. That was a separate uh pot of funds that would be used for that out of splost four. [0:36:18, 0:36:26]: Yeah, but correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that weren't all those funds already but but already allocated though? I mean to say that we would have [0:36:26, 0:36:28]: From what we're hearing that we would have a um [0:36:29, 0:36:31]: about a million dollar left and I didn't [0:36:31, 0:36:37]: I this is my first time hearing that the million dollar be it's it'll be allocated toward the uh [0:36:37, 0:36:39]: finished up the amphitheater. [0:36:39, 0:36:41]: Any any any um [0:36:41, 0:36:45]: Because you have uh other commitments from [0:36:45, 0:36:46]: Um [0:36:46, 0:36:51]: Hey, this is real quick. Johnson Mr. Night, you're Mr. Nighton, you're not muted. [0:36:52, 0:36:54]: Johnson control, you know. [0:36:55, 0:36:55]: Uh [0:36:56, 0:36:59]: Other small companies, um not company construction. [0:37:00, 0:37:03]: uh that's happening with the amputee that we have to uh finish paying for. [0:37:05, 0:37:07]: So the uh most all all the funds are committed. [0:37:08, 0:37:16]: So we really don't have anything from splash three splash for us. I'm just reporting it because we still they're still on the books and we haven't [0:37:17, 0:37:18]: Technically spent them up. [0:37:20, 0:37:29]: Okay. So even if the those funds are allocated, you're still counting because they have the expenditures hasn't happened, or you say exactly. Exactly. It's okay. It just hasn't happened yet. [0:37:30, 0:37:31]: Okay. All right. Thanks. [0:37:32, 0:37:40]: Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I was just I was talking to Mr. Aaron because I wanted to confirm something and some of that SPLOS three. [0:37:40, 0:37:42]: І стіл тобі узфорди. [0:37:43, 0:37:45]: Sewer plant upgrading. [0:37:45, 0:37:50]: Remember we were doing a whole sewer project and something that was coming out of splot three. So I was just confirming that with him. [0:37:51, 0:37:53]: Right. And and those spenses. They just haven't [0:37:53, 0:37:56]: uh made their way around to uh us paying them. [0:37:57, 0:37:59]: But they're but all the funds are committed. [0:38:01, 0:38:03]: All right. And uh [0:38:03, 0:38:09]: Last slide here I have major items going into 2022 budget. [0:38:09, 0:38:16]: New amphitheater complex, about 10% increase in our group insurance. We got a police department. [0:38:16, 0:38:17]: We try to uh [0:38:18, 0:38:20]: Eric, we have um [0:38:22, 0:38:25]: Increase in employees. You'll you'll see that as we go through [0:38:26, 0:38:27]: Uh [0:38:27, 0:38:29]: Some of the departments go through the individual budget. [0:38:30, 0:38:34]: We have a splash five that we have already started collecting money for. [0:38:34, 0:38:38]: We're we with that we have about we've collected about six hundred thousand. [0:38:39, 0:38:40]: Splash five. [0:38:41, 0:38:42]: We have opera projects. [0:38:43, 0:38:45]: We have uh [0:38:45, 0:38:49]: The TS Strickland is transitioning into the Main Street Welcome Center. [0:38:51, 0:38:52]: We still have an alleyway project. [0:38:53, 0:38:54]: Cultural Art Center. [0:38:55, 0:38:57]: We refining project. [0:38:58, 0:39:05]: And also road and sidewalk improvements, which um along with some of the ARPA fonts and the T splash and [0:39:06, 0:39:08]: Splash Fry, we we we [0:39:10, 0:39:12]: We we got quite a few roads, uh well. [0:39:12, 0:39:20]: improvements that we need to do. And then last thing, the COVID crisis. We're still dealing with that and we're going to be dealing with that for some time to come. [0:39:21, 0:39:26]: I thank you, Mr Wiggins. Any other questions in reference to his presentation thus far from the council? [0:39:27, 0:39:28]: Mayor. Yes sir. [0:39:29, 0:39:32]: Yeah, just one last first but Miss Wickers, do you have the figures? [0:39:33, 0:39:34]: Of um [0:39:34, 0:39:40]: the the total stages when we talk about the alleyway project the reconstru uh the c construction part or whatever [0:39:40, 0:39:43]: Um, projects we have going on in the downtown. [0:39:44, 0:39:44]: Um [0:39:45, 0:39:45]: Just [0:39:46, 0:39:54]: Uh is is there a line I I can't'cause I can't hardly see it and I'm not I see I do not have the fungies because now right now I think um [0:39:55, 0:39:55]: uh [0:39:56, 0:39:59]: Like with uh the Ted Strickland, it's it's out on the street. [0:40:00, 0:40:04]: Uh procurement has put that out or is coming up to be put out for be it. [0:40:04, 0:40:08]: And I think with the Alloy project, the same. I think the Allah was right at three. [0:40:09, 0:40:13]: 344,000 or 350 to be completed. [0:40:15, 0:40:16]: Thanks. [0:40:16, 0:40:16]: Mm-hmm. [0:40:19, 0:40:21]: All right. Are you another question from Mr. Wiggins before we move on? [0:40:24, 0:40:26]: Okay, I don't see any at this point. [0:40:28, 0:40:30]: All right. Thank you, Mr. Wiggins. Appreciate it. [0:40:30, 0:40:32]: All right. Ms. Knighton, back to you, sir. [0:40:33, 0:40:40]: All right, thank you, Mayor Council. I see uh Heather Bubble is on. Oh, I see Carl as well. [0:40:40, 0:40:47]: All right. Um thank you, um, Heather and Carl uh for joining us today. Of course, uh, we've had several conversations and [0:40:47, 0:40:52]: Obviously, you wanted to bring this information uh to the council as we take the next major step. [0:40:52, 0:40:54]: Uh in particular with the um [0:40:54, 0:40:55]: With the [0:40:55, 0:40:57]: Cultural Arts Center. [0:40:57, 0:41:02]: uh project and I know that you'd provided uh you know some information to the council to fill out a survey as well. [0:41:03, 0:41:05]: Um prior to uh today, but [0:41:05, 0:41:07]: Uh we wanted to just [0:41:07, 0:41:27]: Spend some time in particular talking about the process that we believe is most efficient to move this cultural arts center forward. And that is utilizing the construction manager at risk scenario. And that may be a new term to some, it may not be to others. [0:41:27, 0:41:30]: We want to spend a little time talking about that. [0:41:30, 0:41:31]: And then also we want to [0:41:38, 0:41:39]: It's nine. [0:41:42, 0:41:45]: It looks like he frozen here for the cultural arts and [0:41:46, 0:41:47]: As well. [0:41:47, 0:41:48]: Um [0:41:48, 0:42:04]: I hope everybody could hear me. Something's going on with my my internet. You froze, Mr. Knighton. So you froze that you did. All right. Let me let me recap. I'm sorry. I I saw everybody staying still and I didn't know if you were mesmer mesmerized by what I was saying. You just broke. All right, let me try again. [0:42:05, 0:42:06]: All right, so [0:42:07, 0:42:08]: Um [0:42:08, 0:42:09]: Can everybody hear me now? [0:42:09, 0:42:11]: Yeah, we hear you, so go ahead. [0:42:11, 0:42:20]: Okay, all right. Okay. So what we want to do is go through this. The next major steps for the Cultural Arts Center, which is important and significant for us. And we provided a brief survey for you to take. [0:42:21, 0:42:23]: as well with respect to that. [0:42:23, 0:42:28]: What we want to use is a method called construction manager at risk for the Cultural Arts Center. [0:42:29, 0:42:37]: And we want that may be a term that's new for some, may not be uh for others, but we want to spend some time explaining that and why we think that's the best way to go about. [0:42:38, 0:42:41]: Moving forward with the next steps in the cultural arts center process. [0:42:42, 0:42:49]: Uh then we also want to uh Heather wants to spend some time, significant time with you talking about programming in the cultural arts. [0:42:49, 0:42:53]: Because we need to make sure that it's all nailed down specifically. [0:42:53, 0:42:58]: um for the development and then construction plans because once this [0:42:58, 0:43:02]: starts once they are launched to begin this next major phase. [0:43:03, 0:43:08]: It's pretty much set at that point. And so we want to make sure that we have the sentiments of the mayor and council. [0:43:08, 0:43:09]: Um [0:43:10, 0:43:13]: Incorporated into the programming. [0:43:13, 0:43:19]: of the cultural arts center. So we'll spend a little time doing that and um we'll walk through that. I think it's important to walk through this methodically. [0:43:20, 0:43:22]: Uh, to make sure that we've got a good, clear understanding. [0:43:22, 0:43:27]: Of where the council stands with respect to it. So I'll turn it over to Heather and Carl. [0:43:27, 0:43:28]: Uh at the moment. [0:43:30, 0:43:31]: Thank you. [0:43:34, 0:43:54]: Um thank you, Mayor and Council and uh and all those who are on uh the uh the Zoom call today. Um I think uh Heather and I both uh have uh individual presentations to make. Um Heather, I think it would be beneficial for you to do yours first. [0:43:54, 0:44:04]: uh having looked at your content. So that'll set kind of the groundwork behind the programming part of the project. And then I would like to talk [0:44:05, 0:44:18]: about um the construction delivery method that Randy was talking about and also to give you some insight into our project plans uh pre-construction timeline so that you have an idea of [0:44:18, 0:44:31]: how this is all going to uh come to fruition over the next um uh the next months um and leading up to the um putting the uh shovel on the ground and getting started in construction. So [0:44:32, 0:44:35]: Uh Heather, if you agree, I think I'd like to do your presentation. [0:44:36, 0:44:37]: Sure, of course. [0:44:38, 0:44:41]: Um I will share my screen. [0:44:49, 0:44:49]: Um [0:44:50, 0:44:56]: So thank you so much for um uh being willing to do the survey that we sent out. [0:44:57, 0:44:58]: Um [0:44:58, 0:45:09]: You know, we we made this rendering quite some time ago. It's been over a year. Uh, and it really was just a thumbnail sketch of you know what the vision of this art center. [0:45:09, 0:45:10]: Could be. [0:45:10, 0:45:20]: Uh and now uh that we're ready to move forward with more detailed design, we need to start solving all the technical items and make sure that we're programming. [0:45:20, 0:45:40]: each room in each space, whether it's inside or outside, with the correct uh vision and needs specifically. So that was the reason for the survey. You know, I apologize if it felt like it was long, but I I felt like we got really good feedback. Uh and you know I feel uh much better kind of moving forward. [0:45:40, 0:45:46]: With the things that I heard and saw in that survey. And I'm going to go over those results this morning. [0:45:47, 0:45:55]: Um so the first things we asked about were outside the building, so the side and specifically about that central green space. [0:45:56, 0:46:16]: Um so the first thing we asked was kind of what outdoor events should you would you want to see in that kind of front central green space? And this is key because um you know certain of these events might require specific power, uh they might require specific flat areas. So we wanted to know kind of what what folks [0:46:16, 0:46:20]: saw. So out of all the things we kind of list listed [0:46:21, 0:46:32]: Uh the top three were kind of outdoor education and art classes, uh, farmers market and festivals. Lesser on the list, uh, you know, was only kind of twenty percent in favor of [0:46:33, 0:46:53]: uh were outdoor fitness classes and food trucks. So, you know, I feel like that's you know uh good feedback a kind of about what uh should be the priority. And I did get this comment back uh that you know it's an art center and so you know activity should be related to the arts. And I thought that was really key kind of feedback. So [0:46:53, 0:47:03]: Uh, you know, I appreciate that comment and you know, I I get it. It makes sense that this is an art center, so indoor, outdoor should all feel like it's geared towards the arts. So [0:47:05, 0:47:14]: Um, and then we asked to kind of rank elements that could be physical elements that could be in that green space or around the art center. [0:47:14, 0:47:34]: Um and we asked all of these items and the top four and this is in ranking from um number one being the highest priority to number eight being very you know much less of a priority. So the top five the top four priorities were um you know permanent artwork and sculptures, uh the water feature which [0:47:34, 0:47:44]: we've talked about uh rotating art uh and sculptures kind of got you know that third spot and then open green space got the fourth spot [0:47:45, 0:47:48]: And then you know, just as uh kind of [0:47:48, 0:47:58]: uh good feedback as we could get. Uh, you know, things that were less important or the least important is that hardscape down there. So it seems like there's really a want towards more green space. [0:47:58, 0:48:05]: and sculpture pieces again reinforcing that this is an art center and that should feel like an art center inside and out. [0:48:08, 0:48:20]: Um and then you know I wanted to ask this question. I thought it was key. Uh, you know, there we are moving forward kind of with the concept design for this interactive splash pad next to City Hall. [0:48:21, 0:48:26]: And so it was important to ask us, knowing that's going on, do we need to re [0:48:26, 0:48:35]: You know, do we need to do a second child play gear splash pad on this side? Does that central uh water feature need to become that? [0:48:35, 0:48:55]: And we got back that it was only about 43% important. Um, so you know, the feedback to me there is that you know, this though we need a water feature, child's play in that water feature is not important. And obviously there's a cost there. So if it's not as important, let's, you know, do the splash pad next to City Hall and then [0:48:55, 0:48:57]: This to be more of an art geared. [0:48:57, 0:48:59]: uh water feature. [0:49:01, 0:49:17]: Um then the next thing we did was give you uh you know a a wide range of art um water feature images. Uh and you know I we find this really helpful to kind of give you a bunch of images and then it gives us a lot of feedback. [0:49:17, 0:49:24]: when we see what images you're drawn to as far as your vision uh for the outdoor spaces and this water feature. [0:49:24, 0:49:29]: So out of those images, uh the one in X uh didn't receive votes at all. [0:49:30, 0:49:35]: So that narrows it down to these pictures, these are the pictures that got votes. [0:49:35, 0:49:46]: Um so obviously these all have a very kind of art feel. Uh you know, if you know you can see that continued theme here. So there's an there's an artist quality to these. [0:49:47, 0:50:00]: Um, and then the images that got the most votes were these three, uh, with the image on the left. I'm showing it bigger because that was by far uh the top voted for picture, which is this kind of mirror pull. [0:50:00, 0:50:06]: uh with this sculpture and you know you see it reflected off the water and then you kind of see this artful background. So [0:50:07, 0:50:15]: Um the other two images are similar. They just of course are moving, but they're you know art and water combined together. [0:50:16, 0:50:22]: So you know, that's the kind of uh this is the kind of direction we're gonna head uh based on your feedback. [0:50:23, 0:50:26]: Uh before I move on to buildings, are there [0:50:27, 0:50:29]: uh any feedback on kind of [0:50:29, 0:50:30]: This [0:50:30, 0:50:34]: information from the survey, any thoughts that you'd like to add? [0:50:35, 0:50:48]: I just think it's good. I think it's you got good feedback. I I I think it's great. Let's let's keep moving unless somebody else has something else to say here. Oh yeah, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Uh Mrs. Hobel, I just wanted to ask what the two on the right. [0:50:49, 0:50:53]: Would you say that those will have more uh mechanical [0:50:54, 0:50:55]: Um [0:50:56, 0:51:01]: uh you know, features in it where there may be issues for as uh maintenance. [0:51:02, 0:51:05]: for the you know, those those kind of mechanical [0:51:06, 0:51:08]: uh engineering kind of features where [0:51:08, 0:51:11]: 'Cause I know even with the fountain there at City Hall. [0:51:12, 0:51:15]: There's always there's a history of mechanical breakdown. [0:51:17, 0:51:25]: So there can be with any of these, even the pool you see to the left, uh, because that still has to circulate the water. We can't leave it stagnant. [0:51:25, 0:51:26]: Um [0:51:26, 0:51:27]: You know. [0:51:29, 0:51:35]: There will always need to be continued maintenance with these kind of water features. Um we can do [0:51:36, 0:51:37]: Uh [0:51:37, 0:51:46]: You know, we can design to the best of our ability to make it as maintenance proof as possible. But yes, there there will always be kind of maintenance with the water feature. [0:51:46, 0:52:00]: Uh and I think the and the thing that I hear is there's a and that I'm glad to kind of hear back is that this doesn't have to be interactive water feature, meaning that kids don't have to play in it because there's a lot more maintenance. [0:52:00, 0:52:02]: with that kind of um [0:52:03, 0:52:15]: a water feature. And so it's good to kind of put those put that at one place, put it at the spot at City Hall, which is the direction currently. And let's leave this one as uh, you know, just a just a foul. [0:52:16, 0:52:17]: All right, thank you. [0:52:18, 0:52:21]: Okay, any other comments from the council thus far? [0:52:23, 0:52:25]: Okay, I do not see any. All right. [0:52:26, 0:52:28]: Uh go ahead, Heather. I believe you can move on. [0:52:28, 0:52:29]: Sure. [0:52:29, 0:52:44]: Um, so then we uh wanted to talk specifically about the theater itself. So, you know, we'd kind of drawn a box, we put seats in it. Um, and to to this uh to this point, you know, it's a very uh [0:52:45, 0:52:58]: I don't want to say generic box, but it needs a lot of technical uh attention to get it right. Um, so we and there's lots of ways as you can see from these images of directions you can take that interior. [0:52:59, 0:53:06]: So the questions asked were really to kind of get more about what we need to program inside of that box. [0:53:07, 0:53:09]: So we gave you these set of images. [0:53:09, 0:53:13]: And again, the X's are the ones that didn't receive votes. [0:53:15, 0:53:20]: So that brought us to uh these pictures, which all of these received the votes. [0:53:23, 0:53:37]: And then the top images were these four. So these all uh received equal votes, which is why I'm showing them all equal. Uh, but there is some commonality, especially between three of these. Um, you know, there's uh, you know, oh [0:53:38, 0:53:43]: The three I guess the two on the top and the one to the left, they have a contemporary link. [0:53:43, 0:53:48]: The one on the bottom right has more traditional ornate lean. [0:53:48, 0:53:59]: Um so you know what I see in this is that we are heading towards a more contemporary theater expression similar to the outside of the building. [0:54:00, 0:54:10]: Um off you know if you look at the three pictures that are contemporary, there's you know an interesting ceiling plane, there is an interesting wall detailing. [0:54:11, 0:54:11]: Um [0:54:13, 0:54:15]: You know, there's an interesting lighting. [0:54:16, 0:54:18]: uh accent. So [0:54:18, 0:54:20]: You know, that's kind of the feedback I hear here. [0:54:21, 0:54:23]: Um and so that's our intent to move forward with. [0:54:27, 0:54:31]: Uh and then this is super important. Uh this question is. So [0:54:32, 0:54:39]: Theaters uh as we talk more and more um with our acoustical designer, with our our theater designers. [0:54:40, 0:54:55]: Um theaters can accommodate a lot of different types of performances, but they really need to be geared acoustically towards uh, you know, one type of performance. And then they just compensate for the others. [0:54:55, 0:55:06]: Um so wanting to really understand, though we know we want this theater to do everything it possibly can, what are the most important uh events to have? [0:55:06, 0:55:12]: Uh and so these are rankings again, one being the most important, seven being the least important. [0:55:12, 0:55:13]: So one [0:55:14, 0:55:18]: community theater plays to the traveling theater plays. [0:55:18, 0:55:19]: Uh [0:55:19, 0:55:22]: Three was choral or orchestral. [0:55:22, 0:55:38]: uh live music and then four was performance uh musical plays so and then less important to the bottom uh turns out to be live music movies and lectures so you know I feel like uh [0:55:39, 0:55:46]: you know, that was really good feedback. There's a, you know, focus on that this is the performance based theater. [0:55:46, 0:55:47]: Um [0:55:47, 0:55:50]: So I do want to highlight number three. [0:55:51, 0:55:52]: So um [0:55:52, 0:55:53]: Currently [0:55:54, 0:55:54]: Uh [0:55:55, 0:55:59]: Doing an orchestra is what sizes the stage up. [0:55:59, 0:56:05]: So you know, there's some additional cost with that specific type of performance. [0:56:05, 0:56:09]: To fit a fifty piece orchestra on the stage. [0:56:09, 0:56:10]: Um [0:56:10, 0:56:25]: You know, that size is kind of our stage up, uh, the back of house up, all of that kind of area. So there is cost savings if that becomes less important. So I wanted to highlight that specific one. And also. [0:56:25, 0:56:29]: That the kind of performances that are speaking. [0:56:30, 0:56:34]: Um are a very different acoustic need than the orchestra. [0:56:35, 0:56:40]: uh obviously there's a there's a loudness impact that's different and so [0:56:41, 0:56:49]: Theaters that are theaters are usually designed to one of those, either speaking performances or kind of the orchestra performance. [0:56:49, 0:56:50]: Um [0:56:51, 0:56:51]: So [0:56:52, 0:56:58]: What I'm gonna do with this feedback is talk through it with our specialist. [0:56:58, 0:56:59]: And [0:56:59, 0:57:16]: what the best way is to move forward with this feedback. So I don't want to discount the orchestra need inside of this theater, but I do think it is secondary to the live. So how can we compensate for both of those? And I I will provide more information as I as we talk through that. [0:57:17, 0:57:32]: Hey Heather, if you don't mind. The orchestra. Normally what I what I thought orchestra, it's kind of is it in front of the stage, it's kind of like a pit. It's kind of sunken. Normally are they sunken down and they're and they're not level with the with the actual stage itself. They're kind of below in this aspect. Is that correct? [0:57:33, 0:57:44]: So that would only be in a live theater performance. So though there would be a smaller, uh, let's call let's say let's use the word band. There'd be a smaller band or orchestra. [0:57:44, 0:57:54]: uh that would be down in the pit area and then you'd have the live actors on stage and that's different acoustically than what number three is trying to get at which is [0:57:54, 0:57:59]: On stage you have fifty folks playing different instruments. [0:58:00, 0:58:02]: Um, and that is the main [0:58:02, 0:58:03]: Um [0:58:04, 0:58:07]: That's the main performance. It's actually the musical. [0:58:07, 0:58:09]: instrument performance. [0:58:10, 0:58:11]: Okay. All right. Yeah. [0:58:12, 0:58:15]: Yeah, I I I th I think I understand now. Appreciate it. [0:58:15, 0:58:19]: Any other comments uh from the council on this particular slide at all, just in case? [0:58:21, 0:58:23]: Okay. Don't see any okay, go ahead. I'm sorry. [0:58:26, 0:58:39]: Uh and then we wanted to um knowing that instruments really, you know, if that is a if if that you know tip happens to be something we gear this theater towards uh that that has some [0:58:40, 0:58:42]: you know, ramifications for the overall theater. [0:58:43, 0:58:50]: Uh so I wanted to ask these more detailed questions about these different kind of musical performances specifically. [0:58:50, 0:59:06]: Um so and this is what we got back. So you know this was how important is it that this theater accommodate these different types? So at the top, uh you know, kind of a a quartet, a woodwind quartet, or kind of a smaller orchestra. [0:59:06, 0:59:07]: Um [0:59:07, 0:59:16]: Is more important than some of these things that follow. So the 50-piece orchestra kind of landed in the middle, string quartet landed in the middle. [0:59:16, 0:59:24]: uh jazz band as well and then of very little importance or less importance let's say uh was the rock pop bands. [0:59:25, 0:59:25]: Um [0:59:26, 0:59:36]: So, you know, again, it's kind of mirroring what we saw on the slide before that theater is the most important, but then there are some of these mu purely musical performances that are important. [0:59:37, 0:59:43]: Uh and then I wanted to talk about the processional events. Uh it's on this slide as well because it was kind of grouped in with those questions. [0:59:44, 0:59:47]: So currently right now we have a very clean [0:59:47, 0:59:53]: um stage edge. It looks like a lot of what you see in the photos that we shared. [0:59:54, 0:59:55]: Um [0:59:55, 1:00:09]: But there are some downsides to that. So the one downside is that it makes uh processional events more difficult because it doesn't accommodate ADA access directly from that seat floor. [1:00:09, 1:00:11]: On to the stage. [1:00:11, 1:00:27]: So in the case of ADA access, which will happen, because processional events prior to the survey were not considered as important, that access is done via backstage, which is an acceptable ADA method of doing that. [1:00:28, 1:00:46]: Um, but if processional events are important, we need to start rethinking that access to more of a front of house method. So that's why we asked this specific question. Uh, and we got um 63% uh importance of processional events. [1:00:47, 1:00:53]: So what I think uh is best to do at this point is for us to show you um quickly. [1:00:54, 1:01:08]: what it looks like if we, you know, accommodate that ADA ramp in the front of the house and what it looks like without. And then let's talk about those two and see which direction council would like to go. Hey Heather, before you go on, uh Mr. Thomas has a question for you. [1:01:09, 1:01:10]: Thank you for that. [1:01:10, 1:01:14]: Uh uh Mrs. Hubble, um thinking forward. [1:01:14, 1:01:19]: Uh concerning rental of the theater. And I don't know. [1:01:19, 1:01:22]: If you're going to present the theater [1:01:22, 1:01:24]: I'm sorry, the ballroom. [1:01:25, 1:01:25]: Um [1:01:26, 1:01:28]: Like you're sort of breaking this down. So I don't want to sort of [1:01:29, 1:01:31]: go jump jump forward and ask questions, but [1:01:32, 1:01:37]: Uh when you sort of talked about musicals and musical events. [1:01:37, 1:01:40]: I just started thinking about the um [1:01:40, 1:01:48]: uh the the ballroom. So if you're going to sort of break that down as you're breaking down the theater, I I could sort of just wait, but [1:01:48, 1:01:50]: Um, I'm sure that [1:01:50, 1:01:55]: Um the the ballroom will be uh available for rental. [1:01:55, 1:01:58]: And I just wanted to make sure that it is conducive to [1:01:59, 1:02:01]: uh those demands [1:02:01, 1:02:04]: uh from those that may want to be able to rent. [1:02:04, 1:02:06]: Uh the ballroom. [1:02:07, 1:02:08]: Yeah, yeah. [1:02:08, 1:02:11]: I I'll just yield until you get to the ballroom. [1:02:11, 1:02:20]: Yeah, um well no I appreciate you you speaking up about that. Um we didn't ask specific questions about what kind of musical events would happen in the ballroom. [1:02:21, 1:02:22]: Um [1:02:22, 1:02:33]: We're we are assuming that we need to be prepared for acoustically uh DJs uh small quartets or bands. [1:02:33, 1:02:34]: Um [1:02:34, 1:02:39]: as kind of, you know, making sure that we're uh accommodating kind of any [1:02:39, 1:02:41]: uh wedding um [1:02:42, 1:02:47]: reception or other event. Does that sound in line with your thoughts? [1:02:47, 1:03:07]: Yeah, because uh originally we wanted to be able to compete with uh surrounding venues uh for weddings, um, Southern Baptist uh conventions, uh, et cetera, et cetera. And you know, when folks are looking for a venue to rent. [1:03:07, 1:03:09]: We just wanted to be um [1:03:10, 1:03:30]: uh in line with with that demand. Because we definitely uh believe that this is going to be in the middle of uh that competitive uh rental market. And we just want to make sure that uh our facility is conducive uh to those uh needs and demands uh when we get into the uh rental market. [1:03:29, 1:03:32]: market uh for um [1:03:33, 1:03:37]: The ballroom. Um I I I I think the theater is [1:03:37, 1:03:45]: uh something totally different but i think for rental i only see the um the ballroom being [1:03:45, 1:03:49]: Um, you know, in that lane for the rental to the to the public. [1:03:50, 1:03:50]: Okay. [1:03:51, 1:03:52]: Thank you. [1:03:55, 1:03:59]: Uh and then you know uh as as we draw in uh [1:04:00, 1:04:01]: As a design team. [1:04:02, 1:04:03]: Um, you know, we [1:04:04, 1:04:19]: took uh into account Sylvia Beard and kind of what that theater looks like there. And we drew the private boxes on each side of the theater. And I'll show you where they are. I'm gonna circle them. Hopefully you can see my mouse circling those boxes. [1:04:20, 1:04:25]: Uh but realizing that those boxes take up a lot of space. [1:04:25, 1:04:45]: Um, and that we can actually increase the seating capacity between 20 seats and 40 seats. I don't want to give you that number specifically until we've run that through. Uh, but there is there is a lot of space there that's being taken up by those private boxes. So wanted to ask this question that you know, if we can get an increase. [1:04:45, 1:04:46]: seating capacity. [1:04:47, 1:04:49]: Is it worth removing those boxes? [1:04:49, 1:04:50]: And you know, the [1:04:51, 1:04:51]: You know. [1:04:52, 1:04:53]: The overwhelming [1:04:53, 1:04:57]: uh feedback was yes to go ahead and remove the boxes. [1:04:58, 1:05:05]: uh so we can get those more seats. So that's the direction that we're gonna head to get you a larger seating capacity. [1:05:10, 1:05:25]: Uh and then this is a detail, but it's an important detail. We wanted to ask go ahead and start asking about the theater curtain color. Uh excuse me, one one quick second. Do you I know we talked about the when you you say remove the box seating. [1:05:26, 1:05:26]: Um [1:05:27, 1:05:27]: Yeah. [1:05:28, 1:05:28]: Two. [1:05:29, 1:05:34]: What is the magic number that we needed for seats? [1:05:34, 1:05:38]: in order to have professional performances there. [1:05:38, 1:05:43]: of traveling theater performances. D I know there I think we did a study on that or [1:05:44, 1:05:45]: Do you know that number? [1:05:46, 1:05:50]: I don't know that number. I do know we have three hundred and twenty. [1:05:51, 1:05:53]: uh seats right now. [1:05:53, 1:06:00]: Um so we would be talking about getting that seating capacity up to, you know, at [1:06:00, 1:06:03]: uh a minimum of about three forty. [1:06:05, 1:06:05]: Okay. [1:06:05, 1:06:06]: Uh I [1:06:07, 1:06:10]: I re I don't recall what that number was either. [1:06:10, 1:06:12]: Uh Mr. Knighton, do you know the number? [1:06:13, 1:06:15]: I'm trying to think. No, I thought [1:06:16, 1:06:20]: I thought like Sugar Hill was like three oh five, maybe. [1:06:21, 1:06:28]: Buford, Sylvia Beard at Buford, I'm not sure. I thought Sylvia Bearded Buford was about this about 310, 320, I thought. [1:06:29, 1:06:31]: Okay. I'm trying to do that from memory. I'm [1:06:33, 1:06:35]: The the other reason I wanted to um [1:06:36, 1:06:37]: To to [1:06:38, 1:06:43]: Hold this in front of you as well besides seating capacity. It's it's not asking the question obviously here. [1:06:44, 1:06:48]: But um in talking through with the acoustical [1:06:48, 1:06:49]: uh engineer. [1:06:50, 1:06:51]: Though [1:06:51, 1:06:54]: Those boxes can be sold at a little higher price. [1:06:55, 1:07:01]: uh and you can kind of have that exclusivity feel in those boxes. Um the acoustical [1:07:02, 1:07:08]: quality in those boxes will be much diminished versus being in the room itself. [1:07:08, 1:07:14]: Um, which is why a lot of times you don't see theaters with these boxes. [1:07:14, 1:07:15]: Um [1:07:16, 1:07:17]: So [1:07:17, 1:07:18]: Yeah. [1:07:18, 1:07:19]: I hope [1:07:19, 1:07:20]: Folks. [1:07:20, 1:07:27]: uh feel comfortable with us doing that. I I do think it is is worth the seating capacity increase potentially. [1:07:28, 1:07:31]: um to do this and that's you know the feedback we got. [1:07:37, 1:07:38]: Any other questions? [1:07:41, 1:07:45]: Well, I uh just a comment. I look forward. I know we have um [1:07:45, 1:07:58]: orchestras and nonprofit organizations here in our county that are you know have heavily youth participation from Mr. Wilson's organization as well as to um the Henry County [1:07:58, 1:08:10]: um music foundation orchestra, I'm sure that they would be excited to have something here in Stockbridge, a stage that they could do those performances at. I think [1:08:10, 1:08:14]: You know, we we definitely know that this is a a capital funding project. [1:08:15, 1:08:15]: That [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: You know [1:08:17, 1:08:19]: Again, it's not a revenue generating. [1:08:20, 1:08:20]: Um [1:08:21, 1:08:28]: facility. It is something that we are doing for the community, for the need of the community and to build up the downtown. I I love the great presentation. [1:08:29, 1:08:40]: Um, I am concerned about the numbers. I just want to get um some feedback from some of the professional theater artists or or people in the industry, kind of like what we did. [1:08:41, 1:08:44]: I think we did the same. We, you know, toured different areas. [1:08:45, 1:08:47]: Um and took bits and pieces of what we liked. [1:08:47, 1:08:52]: and put it into this, the entire mayor council. So I think that was great. [1:08:52, 1:08:53]: Um [1:08:53, 1:08:55]: I hope. [1:08:55, 1:08:56]: That [1:08:57, 1:08:57]: Um [1:08:58, 1:09:01]: The amount of seating that we will have. [1:09:01, 1:09:03]: Will attract [1:09:04, 1:09:12]: those theater shows and things that we want for our community. That's one of my largest concerns. So I just want to make sure what we're covered with that. [1:09:12, 1:09:18]: And and try to get us a number, what that looks like. What what does it take? What seating we have there. [1:09:18, 1:09:19]: Councilwoman Gantt. [1:09:20, 1:09:20]: If I may. [1:09:21, 1:09:22]: Okay, go ahead. [1:09:22, 1:09:29]: Okay, yeah, I was looking at Sylvia Beard. Of course, we toured Sylvia Beard, and I think everybody was impressed. That's the one in Beauford. [1:09:29, 1:09:36]: Um what I'm looking at here says they have seating for up to 274, which includes balcony and VIP boxes. [1:09:37, 1:09:44]: And I think that was the one I think that was most impressive, if I remember correctly, from our our tour. [1:09:46, 1:09:47]: Okay. D uh [1:09:48, 1:09:52]: Does that location, the Sylvia Beard, have professional? [1:09:52, 1:09:58]: theatrical plays that come, traveling plays that come to that location. Do we know that? [1:10:00, 1:10:05]: I am almost certain it does, but I will just for sake, I will verify that. [1:10:05, 1:10:11]: Okay, that's all I just want to make sure that we have the capacity to have certain performances. [1:10:13, 1:10:14]: Mayor. [1:10:14, 1:10:15]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:10:15, 1:10:20]: Uh Heather does this close out Heather your your uh uh presentation, Heather, do you have other areas? [1:10:20, 1:10:22]: Just a few more slides. [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: Okay, I'll wait to the end. Go right ahead. [1:10:27, 1:10:28]: Um [1:10:28, 1:10:29]: So and then you know [1:10:29, 1:10:32]: I don't know if I finished uh this slide, but um [1:10:33, 1:10:41]: Wanted to ask about the curtain color because it is a super important element. You know, there's a lot of history behind these two colors in theater. [1:10:42, 1:10:48]: uh and what they mean. So we got an equal split on this vote. Uh and so, you know, I wanna [1:10:50, 1:11:00]: It would be good to have more dialogue about this. We don't have to make this decision today. We can, you know, reserve this for later, but we do need to make a decision between these two. [1:11:00, 1:11:09]: to uh curtain pieces. Uh you know, this will be what audiences see when they come to the stage. Uh so super important. [1:11:09, 1:11:26]: uh this this question. Okay, Heather, please, could you go back for a second? You said there's maybe maybe I don't understand. There you said there's some history behind these colors. I maybe I missed a missed it missed that earlier or when I did this. So what is the history? Well can you explain that uh out of curiosity? [1:11:27, 1:11:31]: Yeah, so these are the two primary colors of curtains. [1:11:31, 1:11:36]: Um red is a very traditional curtain theater color. [1:11:36, 1:11:37]: Uh [1:11:37, 1:11:48]: Purple curtains are less typical, but this is a very important um curtain color and we have seen this more uh in African American theaters. [1:11:49, 1:11:50]: Um [1:11:50, 1:11:51]: So, you know [1:11:51, 1:11:52]: We do need to make [1:11:53, 1:12:02]: this this choice. Uh and you know, I I don't think our design team has a preference here. We want to do what uh what council feels is best here. So [1:12:03, 1:12:19]: These are really and I can show you what some of these look like if images of these would be helpful. But these are uh you know the two the two options uh and I can I'm glad to have our theater consultants talk more about the history of these these two curtain colors. [1:12:20, 1:12:22]: Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. [1:12:25, 1:12:28]: Um all right. So we talked about removing them. I'm sorry. [1:12:29, 1:12:29]: Okay. [1:12:29, 1:12:45]: Uh and then wanted to talk briefly about uh you know ask a couple questions about the lobby space. Uh there's a lot of events that could happen out in this space prior to going in the actual theater or or even um you know outside of the theater production. [1:12:45, 1:12:54]: Um, so you know, the things we envisioned that could happen out there were, you know, jazz bands, speeches, receptions, cocktails. [1:12:54, 1:13:01]: I wanted to ask about the importance and you know all of these got less than 50% of importance. [1:13:01, 1:13:06]: um in in the feedback um but you know top were [1:13:06, 1:13:09]: Well, these are very close, I would say. So [1:13:10, 1:13:10]: Um [1:13:11, 1:13:16]: Obviously a jazz band in that front space has a lot of acoustical needs. [1:13:16, 1:13:27]: Uh so you know that was a super important one for us to ask. Uh I'm seeing here that it's, you know, not greatly important uh that we gear that space towards this. [1:13:27, 1:13:31]: Uh there's also, you know, electrical needs for these items. So [1:13:32, 1:13:33]: Wanting to make sure that [1:13:33, 1:13:38]: if these are really important to have in that space that we you know compensate for them. [1:13:43, 1:13:50]: Uh and then we asked again, you know, showed you s a round of images, both contemporary and traditional, to get feedback. [1:13:51, 1:13:55]: So the X's are the ones that weren't voted for at all. [1:13:57, 1:14:01]: And then these were all of the images that did receive votes. [1:14:02, 1:14:07]: And by far the one that got the most votes is the one you see on the right. So [1:14:07, 1:14:22]: Second is the one you see on the left, which is why it's smaller. So, you know, both of these tell me that, you know, we're heading towards a polished looking entry that does have a contemporary flare. So that's the direction we'll head. [1:14:23, 1:14:37]: So otherwise, excuse me, Heather, so otherwise this contemporary flare in the in the in the front of the amphitheater, excuse me, in front of the cultural art center is similar to the contemporary flare that we want inside of the seating. So we kind of got that theme going on, it seems like in this aspect. [1:14:37, 1:14:44]: Correct, which you know, I'm you know just ecstatic that we got, you know, that kind of good feedback and it all seems to be consistent. [1:14:45, 1:14:45]: Okay. [1:14:47, 1:14:53]: Uh and then the last series of questions that we asked were about the ballroom. So we showed you these series of images. [1:14:55, 1:14:58]: Um the one with X's again didn't receive votes. [1:14:59, 1:15:10]: which brought us to this uh series of images that you know did receive votes and the two that tied for the top spot were these two images, which again I can see some consistency here. [1:15:10, 1:15:20]: Um the one on the right, you know, does lean a little bit more towards uh traditional, the one on the left is leaning more towards contemporary. [1:15:20, 1:15:26]: Um but each of these have a very interesting ceiling. There's a specific gliding scheme. [1:15:27, 1:15:27]: And so [1:15:28, 1:15:38]: um you know this is you know we'll head towards this direction and we're gonna lean a little bit towards the contemporary side, maybe not as um contemporary as you see here, but [1:15:38, 1:15:41]: Um that will be the overall leaning of the building. [1:15:44, 1:15:57]: Uh and then wanted to ask about the kitchen itself. Uh there's, you know, two different ways we can design that. One is specifically for catering and one is cooking on site. Um, there's different costs to those. [1:15:58, 1:16:07]: Um, so wanted to see which way to head most. So more votes overwhelmingly went towards making it a catering kitchen than cooking on site. [1:16:08, 1:16:15]: So our intent will be to head this towards a catering kitchen. Um of course there'll be, you know, warming ovens. [1:16:15, 1:16:19]: all the sinks needed, the layout spaces, refrigeration, all of that kind of [1:16:19, 1:16:28]: Uh components, what we will not have is a grease hood, uh, which is you know quite a bit of expense. So that's really. [1:16:28, 1:16:30]: The big difference here. [1:16:36, 1:16:51]: Uh and then showed you oops and I feel like I lost a slide here, but uh showed you a series of images about uh both the museum and the gallery again. Uh and so these were the images and um the ones with the X's didn't get votes. [1:16:52, 1:17:12]: Which led us to these images that did get votes. And the top three that got equal amount of votes were these three. So you can see the kind of continued contemporary feel. I will say that both uh the two on the left, they had [1:17:12, 1:17:28]: There's an intimate feel there, more of a quiet feel. So, you know, I think that's good feedback and we'll, you know, make sure that that space feels a little bit different than the reception, that you can actually go in there and enjoy that art and that it's a quieter space. [1:17:32, 1:17:33]: And that is my last slide. [1:17:34, 1:17:35]: Good, thank you. [1:17:35, 1:17:37]: Mirable Tim, you have something you need to add. [1:17:38, 1:17:40]: Yeah, I think uh the presentation was excellent. [1:17:41, 1:17:45]: Uh TSW has been a great partner in working [1:17:45, 1:17:49]: And finding our vision. I like the way that they do things in terms of [1:17:50, 1:17:53]: The feedback that they garner from us and the community. [1:17:53, 1:17:57]: And in the end, I think you're walking us down the path of excellence. [1:17:57, 1:18:00]: And that's what we uh want to make sure that we do. [1:18:00, 1:18:02]: I do agree that the um [1:18:03, 1:18:05]: The splash fountain should be more of a [1:18:05, 1:18:07]: A beautification. [1:18:07, 1:18:08]: Uh in sticking with [1:18:09, 1:18:13]: This flash fountain at City Hall, uh at the amphitheater campus would be more [1:18:14, 1:18:16]: uh in keeping with where we wanted to go. [1:18:16, 1:18:20]: I think the statues are absolutely beautiful. [1:18:20, 1:18:22]: And that rendition where there was a a [1:18:23, 1:18:24]: А пул. [1:18:25, 1:18:27]: Out in front of the statues. [1:18:27, 1:18:30]: Uh is absolutely amazing. That um [1:18:31, 1:18:32]: Could be captured, you know. [1:18:33, 1:18:35]: I I've often dreamt of just [1:18:35, 1:18:37]: The the having a you know [1:18:37, 1:18:39]: those images can be changed. [1:18:40, 1:18:44]: But imagine Daddy King right there and Martin Luther King [1:18:44, 1:18:46]: In Barack Obama. [1:18:46, 1:18:54]: I mean, I'm talking I'm talking about my own perspective. The city hasn't decided, but that would be amazing, just all in itself. [1:18:54, 1:19:13]: uh even Michelle Obama, okay. Let's let's keep it uh in the middle of the road and let's respect our women um uh as well. But I I I like it because the reflecting pool uh just is it says class, it says sophistication, it says style, and it also just kind of [1:19:14, 1:19:16]: Brings things together and it reminds you. [1:19:16, 1:19:17]: Of the [1:19:18, 1:19:19]: Of the [1:19:20, 1:19:22]: I say importance or the actual [1:19:23, 1:19:36]: uh significance of the location. You can't drive up to this without understanding the significance of this location right here. It's simply amazing. I just can't wait. [1:19:36, 1:19:40]: to the day and hopefully uh we'll be able to break ground on that. [1:19:40, 1:19:58]: uh before the end of the before uh uh I like to break as soon as possible. So uh maybe some October or something like that, we might be able to do that, something similar to what we did uh with the amphitheater. So I'm looking forward to uh these days and and moving forward and move back to the interior. [1:19:59, 1:20:01]: uh of it uh as well. [1:20:01, 1:20:07]: The these these concepts are absolutely amazing in that. [1:20:08, 1:20:22]: They capture everything and then I always like to start out with a blank canvas. I don't want to think about it in particular exactly what I want. And then the options that you bring to the table. They bring that out of all of us collectively. [1:20:22, 1:20:24]: And what we want to see so [1:20:24, 1:20:28]: Keep up the good work and whatever we need to do to [1:20:28, 1:20:31]: uh keep this moving forward. I I'm certainly in support of that. [1:20:32, 1:20:32]: Mm-hmm. [1:20:33, 1:20:35]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [1:20:35, 1:20:36]: Thank you. Um [1:20:37, 1:20:40]: Mrs. Hubble, I'm I'm going to second all of that. [1:20:40, 1:20:45]: You know, I've advocated for uh this facility for years. [1:20:46, 1:20:48]: Uh I advocate for it today. [1:20:49, 1:20:51]: And actually being able to see [1:20:52, 1:21:04]: um all of the dimensions and the entities uh in in this facility and and i feel uh really excited about the opportunities [1:21:05, 1:21:07]: That we will be offering [1:21:07, 1:21:13]: uh to all of our citizens and in and neighboring uh cities and counties as well. [1:21:13, 1:21:15]: Uh it's all about [1:21:15, 1:21:19]: Uh, being able to provide that quality of life. [1:21:19, 1:21:27]: uh for all of our citizens. And it and it is very, very clear to me, even so more today. [1:21:27, 1:21:29]: Uh that we are on the right path. [1:21:30, 1:21:37]: uh with this facility and even uh some of the cost that's associated with it because at the end of the day. [1:21:37, 1:21:39]: It's all about providing [1:21:40, 1:21:41]: That quality of life [1:21:42, 1:21:46]: uh for all of our citizens and including the youth [1:21:46, 1:21:48]: And I am excited about [1:21:48, 1:21:49]: The opportunities. [1:21:50, 1:21:58]: That this facility would be able to bring forward for all of our youth organizations, all of our school systems. [1:21:59, 1:22:00]: Um [1:22:00, 1:22:03]: Let me ask two questions if I may. [1:22:04, 1:22:05]: Um [1:22:05, 1:22:12]: the and and these are the sort of like the small details i noticed the difference in the chairs [1:22:12, 1:22:19]: Uh and I know that was just optical that what we saw, but and I guess when we get a look closer into the details, um [1:22:19, 1:22:22]: the different types of chairs that was in the um [1:22:23, 1:22:30]: in the ballroom. So would you say that those are the kind of things that we could probably come back and and get a little bit more into the details? [1:22:31, 1:22:39]: Yeah, great question. So based on this visual information that we've talked about today, this feedback, um [1:22:39, 1:22:59]: Uh we do have an interior designer on this project. Uh TSW does what I call interiors light. When it's interior heavy, which this is, uh we we work in combination with an interior designer. So focus design is that interior designer. They provided all these photos that you're seeing of the interiors to give [1:22:59, 1:23:01]: them feedback on direction. [1:23:01, 1:23:05]: So we're gonna they're gonna take this information and they're gonna start [1:23:05, 1:23:08]: Selecting and picking [1:23:08, 1:23:17]: colors and textures and uh furniture and we're gonna come back and we'll present that to you. But if there's a specific uh [1:23:19, 1:23:22]: direction you're thinking with chairs. I'd love to hear it. [1:23:23, 1:23:25]: Well, seemed like uh the the [1:23:26, 1:23:27]: Heavier [1:23:28, 1:23:30]: Covered chairs as opposed to the [1:23:31, 1:23:35]: Thin rail chairs. I I think my preference probably would be with the [1:23:35, 1:23:39]: heavier cover. But I could sort of wait until we get a little bit more into that, but [1:23:39, 1:23:41]: That would be more my preference. [1:23:41, 1:23:44]: Uh let me jump to another one right quick. Um [1:23:45, 1:23:47]: Um the [1:23:47, 1:23:51]: And I'm gonna ask Ms. Barber to to to join in in this discussion. [1:23:52, 1:23:56]: If you if I know you're familiar with the Center for Pulpitry Arts. [1:23:57, 1:24:01]: So if we had an organization like that to come in to [1:24:02, 1:24:03]: present something [1:24:04, 1:24:05]: Um [1:24:05, 1:24:08]: Which one of these uh rooms or where [1:24:08, 1:24:10]: I is there a room? [1:24:11, 1:24:12]: That will um [1:24:13, 1:24:19]: Allow for that. Uh Mrs. Barber, would you sort of weigh in on this please? Cause I know you and I sort of had this discussion. [1:24:24, 1:24:25]: Well, um [1:24:25, 1:24:33]: Ms. Hubble, which one of these rooms would be most appropriate for like a performance from the puppetry artists? [1:24:35, 1:24:40]: It's a good question. Um, we haven't talked about uh puppet shows. Um [1:24:41, 1:24:46]: So I don't have an answer for you. I think it would need to happen and occur. [1:24:46, 1:24:49]: Uh in the main theater space. [1:24:49, 1:24:56]: Uh and right now that theater stage is planned with a uh [1:24:57, 1:24:57]: Um [1:24:58, 1:25:00]: A mechanical front that lowers and raises. [1:25:00, 1:25:03]: So in the c in the case of a puppet show. [1:25:04, 1:25:05]: Uh where there wouldn't be [1:25:06, 1:25:12]: um live instrumentation or if it is it's it's more of a single uh piano. [1:25:12, 1:25:19]: uh type of presentation that piece would be raised and then you do the puppet stage on front. [1:25:19, 1:25:20]: Um [1:25:21, 1:25:27]: And they'd put the scenery and all of that sort of thing on front. But let let me take that feedback. [1:25:28, 1:25:33]: to uh the our theater consultants and and see what they say and get you a better response. [1:25:34, 1:25:35]: Awesome. Thank you. [1:25:39, 1:25:40]: Mr. Thomas, do you have any other questions, sir? [1:25:42, 1:25:47]: I do not uh thank you, uh Councilwoman Barber. Thank you, uh Mrs. Hubble. Thank you. [1:25:48, 1:25:52]: Any uh council, any other questions uh at all and for Miss Hubble here. [1:25:53, 1:25:54]: Real quickly, Mayor. [1:25:55, 1:25:57]: I think always like the public to understand. [1:25:58, 1:26:00]: This did not just pop up [1:26:00, 1:26:03]: This has been the long term plan. [1:26:04, 1:26:13]: were ticking off parts of the plan the city had put in place through the Atlanta Regional Commission through the Livable Centers Initiative. [1:26:14, 1:26:16]: And the council voted several years ago. [1:26:16, 1:26:18]: Uh a few years ago. [1:26:18, 1:26:20]: And we rank these projects. [1:26:20, 1:26:23]: And the amphitheater graded out number one. [1:26:23, 1:26:28]: The second project graded out was the Cultural Arts Center. It was number two. [1:26:28, 1:26:29]: So [1:26:29, 1:26:30]: There is no [1:26:31, 1:26:36]: surprise when these projects come forward. The council agreed ever the people on this board, excluding Miss [1:26:36, 1:26:39]: Barber voted on to rank these projects. [1:26:40, 1:26:43]: And to move them forward, and it was a unanimous vote. [1:26:43, 1:26:48]: That this was it was a vote to move the Cultural Arts Center to the second project. [1:26:48, 1:26:50]: So that's how we ended up with [1:26:50, 1:26:52]: uh bringing this project forward. [1:26:53, 1:26:59]: And then the culture and then the senior the kids, the senior recreation center would be the next project. [1:26:59, 1:27:01]: uh coming off. So understanding that [1:27:02, 1:27:04]: This is a part of regenerating. [1:27:04, 1:27:08]: The downtown area putting everything together in focus. [1:27:09, 1:27:11]: To make sure that we're able to attract [1:27:11, 1:27:15]: Ресторан, шопс, букстор, кофешоп. [1:27:15, 1:27:18]: downtown so we have a distinguishable [1:27:18, 1:27:19]: Beautiful downtown. [1:27:20, 1:27:24]: And we started out with the best amphitheater in the state of Georgia. [1:27:24, 1:27:31]: We're gonna make you proud of what we do with this downtown. It's going and you see the modern contemporary flow. [1:27:31, 1:27:38]: That is the design, that is the desire of this council. And we're gonna make sure that we do you proud for the next generation. [1:27:39, 1:27:43]: uh in downtown stockbridge. Everybody's gonna be talking about what we're doing as a group. [1:27:44, 1:27:47]: Thank you, sir. Uh any other questions from the council? [1:27:47, 1:27:48]: Mayor. [1:27:48, 1:27:49]: Yes, sir. Mr. Blount. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: Yeah, I want to um [1:27:53, 1:27:56]: Yeah, this uh you know, with the amphitheater [1:27:57, 1:27:59]: Uh, and the Cultural Arts Center. [1:27:59, 1:28:02]: I agree that we all agreed on that. [1:28:02, 1:28:06]: Um, because we thought that the expenditures of the city [1:28:07, 1:28:10]: would be going toward the amphitheater and with the splash [1:28:11, 1:28:12]: And the Cultural Arts Center. [1:28:13, 1:28:15]: But myself and Councilwoman Gap. [1:28:17, 1:28:20]: found out that we was gonna be starting the police department at a council meeting. [1:28:21, 1:28:23]: When there was three votes voted to do that. [1:28:23, 1:28:25]: So if we knew [1:28:25, 1:28:29]: beforehand that this is the direction the city was gonna go in. [1:28:30, 1:28:33]: to implement a tax to r to start a police department. [1:28:33, 1:28:34]: Then maybe [1:28:34, 1:28:37]: the things would have been changed prior to [1:28:37, 1:28:39]: moving forward with uh [1:28:39, 1:28:41]: ampathy and a cultural art center. [1:28:42, 1:28:43]: So I agree. [1:28:43, 1:28:46]: that at the time the council fully voted for this. [1:28:47, 1:28:49]: But it was only three votes. [1:28:50, 1:28:52]: that implemented the police department at a council meeting. [1:28:53, 1:28:56]: Was changed the whole projection and perspective. [1:28:56, 1:28:58]: of funding, spending [1:28:58, 1:29:02]: funds to be spended. The expenditure of funds, if you will. [1:29:02, 1:29:03]: to happen. [1:29:03, 1:29:07]: And so this is what we didn't all agree on, we didn't all talk about. [1:29:07, 1:29:10]: It just happened. So let me make that clear also. [1:29:11, 1:29:11]: Right. [1:29:11, 1:29:13]: Any other comments from the counts before we move on? [1:29:14, 1:29:17]: The last thing that I want to say, and I'm going to close this out. [1:29:18, 1:29:24]: In order and I want everybody to hear me loud and clearly, and that says this. [1:29:24, 1:29:31]: Nobody wants to enjoy the amphitheater or the cultural art center if they can't be safe. [1:29:32, 1:29:41]: There's nothing that we can do more important than keeping people safe. And that's what the police department is designed to do. And it's the top priority. [1:29:42, 1:29:45]: Not a capital project, it's public safety. [1:29:45, 1:29:55]: All right. All right. Ms. Hubble, thank you for your presentation. Really appreciate that as we continue to move forward. And I believe it's a Carl, you have something else to present to us as well. [1:29:55, 1:30:00]: I do. Um, I'm gonna get my screen up here, hopefully. [1:30:01, 1:30:02]: Uh so you're not [1:30:05, 1:30:07]: All right, um, this is my screen. [1:30:08, 1:30:26]: it's is up it's blank right now so there's nothing it is you should have a blue blank kind of a blue screen here so i'm gonna start with that and okay there is show you the two topics that i want to discuss today and just to confirm you can see that on your screen the two topic yes sir yes uh yes we can [1:30:27, 1:30:47]: So um and and thank you so much, Heather. And Heather's presentation is obviously um, you know, brings excitement to the project. Um, it brings vision and it brings it brings scale and it brings things to your eyes that um that hopefully are pleasing to you. My presentation doesn't do that. [1:30:47, 1:30:47]: Hmm. [1:30:48, 1:31:08]: Mine is a management presentation, but I think that the what I want to discuss with you is still vitally important to the project. So hopefully it won't put you to sleep. But I think I think we need to discuss these. First being the timeline of the project, which we call a pre-construction. [1:31:08, 1:31:28]: Construction period. It's the period that we're leading up to that we have to go through the in order to get a shovel and ground. It's an intense time. And it does take a lot of effort. It's driven by Heather's team, the design team, as they're the ones who do the most work during the pre- [1:31:28, 1:31:48]: construction period. But there are other uh there are other um uh activities that that flow into that that are related to site and and other things. Um so I just I want to make sure we lay out the expectations properly that um that that we follow this in order to get [1:31:47, 1:32:03]: a good product um and there are a lot of it's a lot of work to do and part of that uh is the second topic that i want to talk about which is the the delivery method of the construction that randy discussed earlier [1:32:04, 1:32:10]: So Heather and I have been working on the pre construction timeline. We have a very uh [1:32:11, 1:32:29]: a very detailed uh project plan. Um it's it's so detailed that I really don't think it would be useful to to show that to you because it's very technical. Uh it's a Gantt chart related thing so it shows the flow of the pre-construction activities. But what I do want to bring to you [1:32:29, 1:32:49]: Is kind of a summary of that. Um, and that is what you see before you. Um, this is the timeline that we need to follow to get through the various phases of design that leads us up to a construction start, and you can see it doesn't happen overnight. And in fact, on this project, because of its [1:32:49, 1:33:09]: complexities because of the intense programming effort that needs to happen. And following that, the design development activities that need to happen, it can't be rushed. And also we have to make sure that we design this to fit to the budget, the stated cost budget that we have on [1:33:09, 1:33:29]: project. So uh it's it's very intense, it's an interactive um timeline, uh, but it's important. Um and just to kind of hit on some of the um the high level details of what you're looking at, um, you know, we're entering the concept and the schematic [1:33:29, 1:33:45]: phase that uh that Heather has to go through in order to really define and develop this this project. And uh you know they're they need uh several months to do that and you see that on the concept and schematic timeline. [1:33:45, 1:34:05]: And uh congruent to that will be uh site due diligence. We need to analyze what we have on the site, what we're gonna have to do to the site uh to get it ready for uh to uh to begin the project. Um the site due diligence uh that includes things like doing the survey. [1:34:05, 1:34:18]: identifying our site conditions and our restraints, doing our geotechnical studies, doing our seismic studies, just learning about the site and what we're gonna have to deal with. [1:34:19, 1:34:39]: The site pre-development, that's where the civil engineering happens. We still have a parcel that needs to be acquired. We're gonna have to, I perceive we're gonna have to go through a plaque combination because we have several plats, uh different properties that are separated right now that need to be combined. [1:34:39, 1:34:59]: They don't have the same same zoning, so uh normally you have to get the zoning uh uh all equal uh before you do a flat combination. Uh we have some work to do with Georgia with GDOT and with George Power in getting that site ready. So there's a lot of activities that have to happen. [1:34:59, 1:35:00]: Happen there. [1:35:00, 1:35:17]: Um the s the design development is um that's the engineering part. That's where Heather and and uh her engineers are are working through structural engineering, mechanical engineering, uh looking at envelope um uh download materials and constraints. [1:35:18, 1:35:35]: Uh so there's a lot of work to be done there. And then the construction documents period is for really putting uh a lot of um ink on paper and getting it ready for the contractor to receive and and understand how to build the building. And then obviously there's a permitting stage after that. [1:35:36, 1:35:56]: So you see that with the timelines that that we've worked through and and Heather and her team have done a great job analyzing these time periods and making sure they have adequate time to do that. Um but it does put our construction start period right at the end of uh 2022 and it's in the winter time. [1:35:56, 1:36:16]: And I think there are some considerations about starting a project in the wintertime. That's not usually a good time to begin site work in the city, in the in this area. So we'll have discussions about that later. But just to kind of give you an overview of what we have developed as a project plan. [1:36:16, 1:36:23]: I wanted to present that to you today and start lay down the expectations of what you're going to see happen over the next several months. [1:36:24, 1:36:44]: All right. I want to stop there and see if you have some questions regarding that. I appreciate this. Obviously, it puts the light uh in the sense of the how uh how involved this is and and the timeliness and the fact that this doesn't happen just overnight. It's gonna it's been a while before we before things uh really get moving. I mean there's other things that have to happen obviously, but it's gonna be a while before this is [1:36:44, 1:36:57]: fully constructed in this aspect. So and obviously there's certain things we've got to follow to to do that such a big construction project like this. That's my only comment this time. Any other comments from the council or anything for a Carl folks? Anyone? [1:37:00, 1:37:06]: Ms. Barber, did you have your hand up or you no? Okay. Uh anybody else? [1:37:07, 1:37:13]: Okay, Carl, I guess you can uh ignore the questions. I guess you can move on to your next slide or or party presentation there. [1:37:13, 1:37:33]: Okay, thank you. So uh Randy brought this up in the introduction, and this is a construction delivery method that that um I'm recommending that we follow on this project, and it's called construction management at risk. Well we've got to consider when we select our construction delivery method um uh that we have a builder that's qualified for this type [1:37:33, 1:37:53]: project. Not every contractor can do something like this. This is a very intricate project and has a has a lot of important parts to it. So we need somebody who has the resources, they have the that they can touch the submarket the way we need them to, that they have the financial capabilities and the bonding capabilities to do the [1:37:53, 1:37:54]: Project. [1:37:55, 1:38:15]: Uh and that they have a history of being able to deliver projects of this nature uh related to the size of the project, the type of project we're doing, our budget constraints, the schedule, the whole thing. And then we need somebody who has a sophisticated level that um that when the public looks at it or when you're looking at [1:38:15, 1:38:35]: them you see that they have a handle, a good handle on proper site management and proper cost management on the project. So uh this is we're looking for a larger contractor who has a high level of sophistication uh whose uh project team uh does more than just you know just [1:38:34, 1:38:42]: Just throw subs out there and hope for the best. You know, we need somebody who can really manage the construction part of this project. [1:38:42, 1:38:43]: Oh [1:38:44, 1:39:04]: The construction management at risk is used by I tried to find the exact percentage and really couldn't, but majority and I'm talking about the vast majority of private sector large capital projects use this method. Um I believe in my mind that it's probably eighty to ninety percent of private sector large capital projects. [1:39:04, 1:39:06]: Let's use this delivery method. [1:39:07, 1:39:27]: It's being used more and more in the um in the public sector for large capital projects. Um so this is not something that we're just throwing out at you that that we've just invented. Uh you know, this is a very tried and true method. And it is an approved delivery method for Georgia public uh uh projects. [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: Projects. [1:39:30, 1:39:50]: So we have a stated cost budget. We know it's 18 million, but we know that it includes more than just the construction costs, and I've listed some of those here. Obviously, we have a designer and her team. We have uh myself as your program manager. Uh we have we have uh furniture to put in the building, we have picture. [1:39:50, 1:39:55]: We have equipment, we have other things like third-party testing. [1:39:55, 1:39:59]: uh you know surveyors uh geotechnical studies all those costs [1:40:00, 1:40:08]: Fall within the 18 million. And I want to state that very importantly, this 18 million has to have a strong project contingency. [1:40:09, 1:40:24]: So if we run into issues such as unsuitable soils or or other constraints that uh that work on our project budget, we are properly funded to handle those type of things. So a project contingency is a very important part. [1:40:24, 1:40:27]: of our overall stated cost budget. [1:40:28, 1:40:36]: Um so you can read this, but basically what a construction manager is is a contractor. [1:40:37, 1:40:57]: Uh, who also provide services during the pre-construction period that helps us uh keep the project in budget and becomes a vital source uh for input into uh building systems, uh details of means and methods, that kind of thing. So they are vitally important in this method. [1:40:57, 1:41:13]: especially when you're dealing with um you know designing up to a budget that you have a contractor who has the ears to the ground and knows the business and knows the volatility of the market and can bring all that to us while we're in the design phase. [1:41:13, 1:41:33]: Because what we don't want to do is to just go design a building, put it out the bid, and hope that it comes in in budget. Because I'm sure if you've ever done that before, you know that that doesn't happen. And that's that's a panic time. And that's not when we need to be reconciling the project scope to a budget. We need to do that much earlier. [1:41:33, 1:41:36]: And I'll talk about that a little bit more in a minute. [1:41:37, 1:41:40]: But our construction manager is gonna provide. [1:41:40, 1:42:00]: uh valuable input in input during the pre-construction um regarding the cost, especially when we have such a volatile cost market like we have right now and we're facing uh we're facing inflation pressures and that kind of thing. Um but they also provide um a lot of input into [1:42:00, 1:42:04]: two selections of different systems that go into the project. [1:42:05, 1:42:12]: And they do perform the full services that a general contractor performs during the construction phase. [1:42:12, 1:42:31]: But the idea, the benefits that you get out of this are when the design is complete, when we get to the point where we're getting ready to go into permitting and stick a shovel on the ground, our project's gonna be in budget because that's what this method does. It helps us design to a budget uh with the input from the contractor or the construction manager. [1:42:32, 1:42:50]: We have market input into the design selection details. The contractor is constantly testing the market, looking at vendors, getting in input from vendors, a very great resource for the design team to have access like that through our construction manager into the entire market. [1:42:51, 1:43:00]: And then the construction manager has an an incentive to to monitor the expenses during construction. I'll talk about that here just in a few minutes. [1:43:01, 1:43:21]: Our construction manager is procured through a um basically a request for qualifications, a request for proposal. It's it's what we call a fee-based proposal. I'll talk about that in a minute. But I wanted to let you know that this process, this competition has started. We have already advertised this project in the Herald. [1:43:21, 1:43:41]: And we are right now in the process of putting this out so that we get our responses from qualified construction managers to do this project. So this process is already underway through your procurement division with Wendell's help. [1:43:40, 1:44:00]: Lindell's heading that. We want our construction manager at risk to be on the project at the end of the concept and design phase. And if you remember my schedule, that phase ends around the end of December. And we want to have our construction manager at risk on the project. [1:44:00, 1:44:06]: the project team by the end of December. So that's why we're we're working through the competition right now. [1:44:08, 1:44:27]: The form of agreement will be a guaranteed maximum price contract. Not sure if you're really familiar with that, but it's not sum. It will be a guaranteed maximum. So the contractor will be responsible for bringing the cost in under that guaranteed maximum price or at it. [1:44:28, 1:44:44]: The the part that I really wanted to focus on today is the assurance that this process still gives you competitive market pricing uh for the construction of the project as a bid would. [1:44:45, 1:45:05]: It's just that we're doing this kind of in two phases. When we bring the construction manager at risk on board, they're competing with other firms or as and and there are many other things, but from a cost standpoint, their pre-construction services, their contractors' job site overhead, which is their their field. [1:45:05, 1:45:08]: Uh their field uh staff, their um [1:45:09, 1:45:12]: You know, a job trader, their safety, that kind of thing. [1:45:12, 1:45:32]: And their construction fee or their profit is all competitively bid during this process that we're going through right now. So these contractors that are competing in this construction management at risk procedure will be bidding on and will be giving us firm numbers for these top three items. [1:45:32, 1:45:37]: which is the pre-construction, the contractor overhead, and the contractor profits. [1:45:38, 1:45:47]: What's different in this is the remaining cost of the project, majority of that comes from the subcontractor market and vendor pricing. [1:45:48, 1:46:08]: And that pricing will ultimately be bid to the to the subcontractor market when we've completed the design. That doesn't mean we're not getting input from the subcontractor market during pre-construction, but we don't take their bids until we get to the very end of the design process and we competitively bid the subcontractor. [1:46:08, 1:46:09]: I'm a vendor. [1:46:09, 1:46:10]: Um [1:46:11, 1:46:20]: Market. I, as your program manager, I have full access to your construction manager's estimate. It's an open book process. [1:46:20, 1:46:30]: Um the I have full access to all the subcontractor and vendor bids when that happens at the end of the design phase prior to starting construction. [1:46:30, 1:46:50]: And I can demand additional sub-bidding participation if I feel like that we don't have the proper input and participation from the subcontractor market. So I am interactive with the construction manager as regarding setting up their bidding, setting up their estimate, and ultimately coming up with the [1:46:50, 1:46:52]: The uh guaranteed maximum price. [1:46:53, 1:47:03]: The costs are totally manifested and that means that we're we're gonna be paying the contractor the cost of the project plus this fee and his general condition. [1:47:04, 1:47:24]: Um, and I'm f I can fully audit and I will be fully auditing all these cost manifests. Um, the construction manager at risk bears the risk of the cost overruns over the guaranteed maximum price. However, if there is a savings on the project, then the majority of that would be. [1:47:23, 1:47:33]: returned to the owner or to the city and we usually do that in the 80% 20 split and the reason we give the contractor a little bit of that [1:47:34, 1:47:54]: Split is to give them incentive to save costs on the project. We want them to uh to work diligently during the buy-out process and during construction to to save money so that money comes back to the owner. Uh, but we do give them that incentive. So I do recommend an 80-20 split, and that's very common. [1:47:54, 1:47:55]: um in this delivery system. [1:47:59, 1:48:00]: Um [1:48:01, 1:48:21]: The the benefits that we're going to get, as I stated before, you know, we've got to reconcile the scope and the budget. And we got to make sure that we're designing to our budget. This process may involve some value engineering or cost engineering at the end of the concepts phase. [1:48:21, 1:48:41]: But the very important thing is that we need to reconcile our project scope against our budget and do that at the end of the concept phase before the designers move into actually doing the design development and engineering on the project. [1:48:41, 1:48:51]: what that puts at is is that and I drew this I brought this pre-construction timeline back up and I put this red bar at this critical point in our project. [1:48:52, 1:49:12]: That's when we have to have this project concept uh reconciled with our budget. Um and as you can see that ends at the end of December, and that is why the our construction manager, it's so important to have them on board by that time because that will be the point that they will make their first um call. [1:49:12, 1:49:15]: cost budget analysis of our program. [1:49:16, 1:49:16]: So [1:49:17, 1:49:19]: I know there wasn't a lot of pretty pictures there. [1:49:20, 1:49:33]: Uh and this is just the nuts and bolts of management. It's not it's not pretty, but it's important. Uh so with that being said, I will stop there and ask uh if there are any additional questions about what I present. [1:49:33, 1:49:53]: Well thank you for your presentation. Obviously it uh is thorough in a sense and uh and obviously some quite involved in this aspect. And I know as a program manager you'll be working quite a bit uh obviously with our staff on all these movements and getting us a keeping us abreast of everything that's going on in this aspect. Um [1:49:53, 1:49:58]: Uh so anyway, uh Council, any questions that you may have for uh Carl here? [1:50:00, 1:50:01]: Anybody? [1:50:02, 1:50:20]: Yeah. Councilman Thomas has his hand up. I'll defer to him and then I'll speak up him. Yeah, go ahead, Matt uh Councilman Thomas. I didn't see your hand. I'm sorry. Go ahead, please. Uh my one and only last question, and this this may not be the appropriate time or this may not be a part of you all's um [1:50:20, 1:50:22]: uh environment but the [1:50:22, 1:50:24]: The marquee [1:50:25, 1:50:28]: Uh highlighting Carame Hambrick's. [1:50:28, 1:50:29]: Name. [1:50:30, 1:50:33]: On the exterior of the building. [1:50:34, 1:50:36]: Could one of you all sort of speak to that or has that? [1:50:37, 1:50:39]: been any consideration. [1:50:39, 1:50:40]: How how that would look. [1:50:41, 1:50:43]: The carame handbrick. [1:50:43, 1:50:44]: Oh [1:50:44, 1:50:47]: Culture and Arts Enrichment Center. [1:50:51, 1:50:54]: Sure. Um so we will [1:50:54, 1:51:01]: uh look at how that name is incorporated into the exterior, uh but I we don't have a concept for that today. [1:51:01, 1:51:02]: All right, thank you. [1:51:04, 1:51:05]: Miraple Tim, go ahead, please. [1:51:06, 1:51:07]: Yeah, I wanna just um [1:51:08, 1:51:12]: point out uh what this process is. So sometimes you it's like [1:51:12, 1:51:16]: Uh Mr. Trebathan said it's kind of dry but [1:51:16, 1:51:19]: It is extremely z is extremely important. [1:51:19, 1:51:23]: I want to thank Councilwoman Barber for being instrumental in bringing [1:51:23, 1:51:27]: In in in insisting that we had a project manager like Kekin Wood. [1:51:28, 1:51:30]: uh to to the table because [1:51:30, 1:51:33]: They're watching every penny as we move through this process. [1:51:34, 1:51:36]: And making sure that uh decisions are being made. [1:51:37, 1:51:38]: They don't work for [1:51:39, 1:51:39]: Uh [1:51:40, 1:51:40]: The uh [1:51:41, 1:51:45]: The f the construction firms, they work for us. They work for you, ladies and gentlemen. [1:51:46, 1:51:47]: In terms of [1:51:47, 1:51:48]: Protecting your [1:51:48, 1:51:50]: Dollars and cents as they go out. [1:51:51, 1:51:52]: So every particular [1:51:52, 1:51:56]: uh piece of equipment or every particular process that is done. [1:51:57, 1:51:59]: Carl reviews it on behalf of the city. [1:52:00, 1:52:04]: And then our planning and zoning dep working with our planning and zoning department. [1:52:04, 1:52:07]: And Miss Johnson to make sure that your dollars are being spent. [1:52:07, 1:52:08]: Very efficiently. [1:52:08, 1:52:13]: The one thing I think we kind of got lucky on through in this process is that [1:52:13, 1:52:33]: I think right after the pandemic, construction costs had peaked. And I think they're started to go down. So we should be able to catch a a little bit of break on the initial construction costs. As we when we estimate we got the estimate, it might been uh uh a significantly higher than it would be today as the costs have gone down. Can you talk about that? [1:52:33, 1:52:33]: Yeah. [1:52:34, 1:52:39]: Sure. Um this has been a very um unique time in in the history of [1:52:39, 1:52:46]: uh of this industry and it's been probably one of the hardest ones to get a handle on because there's so many moving parts. [1:52:46, 1:53:06]: Uh we have there were some significant spikes in certain materials uh as a result of the pandemic. Most of that was driven by labor shortages at the plants and manufacturing facilities and and and at lumber mills and that kind of thing. Uh we see those things are easing quite a bit. [1:53:06, 1:53:23]: especially the lumber market. What we're not seeing that's easing right now are shortages in in components and materials. And you hear it in things that you're familiar with, like chips and and cars and things like that. We have that same kind of issue right now that components of [1:53:24, 1:53:28]: You know the the components of components we're having shortages of. [1:53:28, 1:53:34]: uh we have shortages of certain pigments and paints and so it's there's still a lot of volatility right now. [1:53:35, 1:53:43]: Mu that lends more importance to the fact that we need to bring our our contractor on the board early because nobody has their ears to the ground. [1:53:44, 1:53:55]: you know, better than they do because they live it day in and day out. So their their import in input regarding the volatility in the market is going to be very important. I will say this. [1:53:55, 1:54:01]: Across the board, not just construction wise, but everywhere there are a lot of inflation backup pressures right now and and [1:54:02, 1:54:15]: That has to be taken into consideration in this project uh that we don't um we don't we don't get surprised by uh uh volatility and inflation factors that we we [1:54:15, 1:54:18]: We factor those into our project budget as we go. [1:54:20, 1:54:26]: Absolutely. Thank you uh uh so much for this presentation. Now I saw your timeline. [1:54:26, 1:54:46]: And the timeline uh it is is aggressive and I hope we'll be able to s to move to it. I see uh I see that last little box that says construction that starts at the end of the year. And I'm certainly hope hoping that we'll be able to make that. This looks very similar to what we [1:54:46, 1:54:49]: did with the amphitheater where we had the groundbreaking. [1:54:49, 1:54:50]: Uh in October. [1:54:51, 1:54:55]: The staff moved through and started working on um [1:54:55, 1:54:57]: Uh, getting the project started. [1:54:57, 1:54:58]: And then um [1:54:58, 1:55:04]: you know, we're able to move uh through the process. But it seems like we might even be ahead of schedule than we were. [1:55:04, 1:55:07]: Uh uh during the amphitheater because of your involvement. [1:55:07, 1:55:10]: But I certainly would like to see us stick to this timetable. [1:55:11, 1:55:15]: and start the construction by the end of the year. So folks can see that we're we're we're moving. [1:55:16, 1:55:17]: Позитив дирекці. [1:55:17, 1:55:21]: in their benefit so they can enjoy these facilities now. [1:55:21, 1:55:36]: uh in uh in instead of over the long term, uh just bringing benefit to the community, just revitalizing and just making people want to come into this downtown to enjoy a play or to enjoy a concert. It's [1:55:37, 1:55:41]: It's all about gathering and our people coming together. [1:55:44, 1:55:46]: Okay, any other comments from the count? Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:55:48, 1:55:53]: Just wanted Mr. Trevithan to confirm the construction start date. [1:55:54, 1:55:54]: Please. [1:55:55, 1:55:58]: I'm looking at your graph and I just want you to confirm it. [1:55:58, 1:56:18]: So we're looking at the end of the year 2022. Um that is where it looks like it's falling right now. Uh so that's about fifteen months from now going through this pre construction phase. Um and again I wanted to stress that we really need to have discussions about whether or not we break ground and [1:56:18, 1:56:22]: middle of winter, but we can have those discussions at a different time. [1:56:23, 1:56:24]: Okay, thank you. [1:56:25, 1:56:29]: Thank you, sir. Any other uh comments? Yeah, Mr. Blount, yeah. Go ahead, please. Thank you. [1:56:30, 1:56:36]: Thank you. Um j thank you for the presentation. Just one quick question. I saw that the different components that um [1:56:37, 1:56:44]: you all are gonna be um overseeing and and um looking at us I heard you mentioned the the um [1:56:44, 1:56:48]: uh bidding portion. So uh what portion of procurement [1:56:49, 1:56:54]: Will you all be doing or you guys gonna be over the procurement process for this pr project? [1:56:55, 1:56:56]: So [1:56:56, 1:57:16]: We will be overseeing the the procurement of the construction manager at risk, as I had mentioned before, um, and that we're doing that right now. But we're also very uh intertwined into the construction manager's bidding of the uh subcontractor and vendor uh components of the project. [1:57:16, 1:57:26]: project and understand that the subcontractors make up a majority of the cost of the project and certainly almost all of what we call the sticks and bricks, the physical plan of the project. [1:57:26, 1:57:30]: So I will be involved in in [1:57:31, 1:57:34]: with the construction manager and and oversight of all of that. [1:57:35, 1:57:50]: Now the procurement is physically done by the city through the procurement department. And we are working on that right now with Ms. Miller. But I'm involved in all that and will be overseeing all that procurement. [1:57:51, 1:58:09]: Uh and and there and just to add to that too, there there are other components in procurement. You know, things like geotechnical studies and testing, there are other vendors that the uh that the city will contract with direct and I'll be involved in the procurement of those also. [1:58:12, 1:58:14]: Anything else, Mr. Burr? [1:58:14, 1:58:18]: Yeah, just one more quick time but I'm because I'm hearing that uh [1:58:19, 1:58:23]: Uh yeah, about a groundbreaking. I'm hearing when would it be completed? [1:58:23, 1:58:25]: Have all the preliminaries [1:58:25, 1:58:27]: For the site been settled. [1:58:27, 1:58:30]: Uh for the access site secured. [1:58:33, 1:58:43]: I'm not real not really sure what you're asking about on the side. I think let me yeah, I think there's some things that are still being worked on with the site. I think I understand your question. [1:58:44, 1:58:45]: That we [1:58:45, 1:58:47]: Some other um [1:58:48, 1:58:49]: Entities. [1:58:49, 1:58:52]: Um that are working with the city. [1:58:52, 1:58:54]: are seeking to uh complete. [1:58:55, 1:58:56]: So how? [1:58:56, 1:58:58]: For purposes of that, I'll just say it that way. [1:58:58, 1:59:00]: But that's in that's been in process. [1:59:00, 1:59:01]: Yeah. [1:59:01, 1:59:03]: Yeah, I thanks. Thanks. [1:59:05, 1:59:06]: Any other questions for the council? [1:59:07, 1:59:08]: For Carl here. [1:59:10, 1:59:12]: I can right now I I see no other [1:59:13, 1:59:22]: questions or hands. Okay. I appreciate it, Carl. Uh appreciate your presentation, sir. Thank you very much. And uh look forward to uh everything moving forward. [1:59:22, 1:59:24]: Properly. Thank you. [1:59:25, 1:59:27]: All right, Mr. Knight, back to you, sir, for our next presentation. [1:59:27, 1:59:36]: Yes, yes. Um and and certainly that was an excellent presentation and needed we needed to spend some time with that. We do have Falcon Design on and [1:59:36, 1:59:45]: It's okay with the council, we wanna have them discover briefly some of the projects. I did send an email on Friday with a kind of a a brief synopsis on some of the project update. [1:59:46, 1:59:52]: They do have obviously they've been waiting here for a while, but they do have kind of a hard stop in about [1:59:52, 2:00:06]: uh twelve to fifteen minutes. I think they can get through what they need to in that period of time. And if if it's okay with the council, I uh recommend we go ahead and move forward with that. And then if there are any follow-up questions that need to be done, we can do that. [2:00:06, 2:00:16]: uh shortly thereafter, but they they've been waiting for a while and they do have a another meeting they have to attend. So I think they can get through it in about twelve or fifteen minutes if that's okay, sir. Okay, sure. Fine. Let's let's go. Okay. [2:00:19, 2:00:25]: Gentlemen, uh ladies and gentlemen, how are you just the John Palmer Falcon we got skipped latent for some reason or [2:00:26, 2:00:27]: Video's not working. [2:00:28, 2:00:33]: Um but uh wanted to go through if you guys can see our screen. You can current project status. [2:00:34, 2:00:48]: And there's quite a few projects on here. There's 10 total projects. So I'm gonna kind of skim through them quickly. And uh Brandy, I did I I did get a couple extra minutes that I can probably make it uh in case we have any questions at the end. [2:00:49, 2:01:09]: Um so we'll start off with uh East Atlanta Road, North and South Lee Street Roadway and intersection modifications. Um from our last meeting, uh there was consensus to go back and do a modification to go with black powder coated finish poles. [2:01:09, 2:01:29]: We've gone back and forth with GDOT, and I think some of the city staff and uh have helped with that. And uh we've gotten all those projects updated. Uh it isn't it is going to require one additional post, um, but we've got all of those done and submitted to GDOT. Uh now they've got the uh black post. [2:01:29, 2:01:36]: Top decorative lights. We've also got the decorative uh lamps on top of each uh of the post. [2:01:36, 2:01:42]: And we have done the uh we've also modified the plans to include the street print paving. [2:01:42, 2:01:48]: Um just the brick uh look uh for the crosswalks at major intersections. [2:01:48, 2:01:55]: So uh that's been done. The project's been bid, so that'll be uh something we've got to discuss with the contractor. Um [2:01:55, 2:02:03]: The right-of-way acquisition, from what I understand, is ongoing uh by the city attorney and and their representatives. [2:02:04, 2:02:11]: Um, so that's where we are on that project. Um, Mayor, do you want me to just keep moving down the list or you want to ask questions as we go? [2:02:16, 2:02:18]: You're muted, Mayor. [2:02:20, 2:02:26]: Watell you what? Shali. Yes, please keep moving down the list. Thanks a lot. Keep moving down the list, sir. [2:02:27, 2:02:34]: All right, uh Skip's gonna talk about the next one. This is the really exciting project, Smith Barnes Sewer Collection System. [2:02:34, 2:02:45]: Yeah, the Smith Barnes project is uh designed and we've gotten all the comments back from the city. Uh they will be advertising it uh next week. [2:02:46, 2:02:52]: Uh the current schedule is uh December second to receive bids on that project. [2:02:52, 2:02:59]: It'll be a hundred and eighty day project, but that's a DCA grant. Uh, I think the city's getting uh a little over three hundred thousand dollars. [2:03:00, 2:03:05]: from um the Henry County uh DCA department uh for this particular project. [2:03:05, 2:03:19]: And that one will uh address in uh inadequacies and uh infiltration issues that are related to the entire Smith Barnes collection system. But that project is uh ready for bid essentially. [2:03:22, 2:03:34]: All right, the next one uh that we have is the wayfinding signs. We've completed those and submitted those in for review for the pedestrian and for the wayfinding, the uh the big gateway signs we've [2:03:35, 2:03:41]: Last meeting you guys wanted to make an LED sign on the bottom. So we've gone back and made that change. We're just waiting on one. [2:03:42, 2:03:45]: Uh comment from the um [2:03:46, 2:03:53]: From the manufacturer, but we are s expecting to have that back today. So we'll have that last LED signed full plans over to you as well. [2:03:54, 2:04:03]: Um now it moves into the last phase of that project, which is actual picking the site, the site uh location. [2:04:03, 2:04:09]: getting the easements in place, the surveying, that kind of thing. But the signs themselves are completed. [2:04:09, 2:04:10]: Turned in. [2:04:11, 2:04:12]: The uh [2:04:13, 2:04:19]: LMIG 2021 and LMIG 2022, Skip's gonna talk to you briefly about those. [2:04:19, 2:04:22]: Kind of tell you how much uh how what what what you're doing on that one. [2:04:23, 2:04:28]: Well ElMIG twenty twenty one has already been fed. Um due to COVID there were some [2:04:28, 2:04:48]: um issues between the bidding process and when the contracts were issued, etc. Uh so ultimately the contractor, we've had a pre-construction conference, but the contractor, because of the delays, you know, the uh administrative delays, he uh had to bid other work and so he's back [2:04:48, 2:05:00]: And again, every contractor is right this at this point in time. The current starting date for him is uh March 1, 2022. [2:05:00, 2:05:11]: And that particular project is about 6.15 miles of resurfacing and repairs throughout the city in varying subdivisions. [2:05:11, 2:05:17]: Twenty twenty two we're ongoing with the uh uh putting together the contract documents on that one. [2:05:18, 2:05:19]: The uh [2:05:19, 2:05:38]: uh plan is to have it ready by the end of the month to submit to Lyndell for her review uh and Deshus and uh let them uh give us uh you know the uh dates that we need for bidding uh all the all the timeline issues that the city wants to see. [2:05:38, 2:05:39]: And um [2:05:40, 2:05:43]: Then we're anticipating that that one will actually bid. [2:05:44, 2:05:44]: Uh [2:05:45, 2:05:45]: Yeah. [2:05:46, 2:05:56]: toward the uh February of twenty twenty two and we probably start around May, which is excellent timing for that paving. And that project is uh [2:05:56, 2:06:00]: five and a half miles of uh road resurfacing and rework. [2:06:00, 2:06:04]: So those two projects are are are moving forward quickly. [2:06:05, 2:06:07]: It's still about twelve miles. [2:06:07, 2:06:08]: resurfacing in the city. [2:06:10, 2:06:20]: Um next projects. Uh I'm gonna kind of talk about these two together. Uh you've got the Lee Street improvements north of the amphitheater drive. [2:06:20, 2:06:26]: Um and then we've got the Lee Street Overflow parking, which is the additional parking. [2:06:26, 2:06:30]: Um to the east of the amphitheater off of Lee Street. [2:06:31, 2:06:34]: The survey is complete on both of those projects. [2:06:34, 2:06:39]: Preliminary design plans are complete for both of those projects with one [2:06:39, 2:06:42]: A small thing I wanted to kind of point out here in just a second. [2:06:43, 2:06:45]: Um and that is uh we had [2:06:46, 2:06:47]: Getting worried about [2:06:48, 2:06:52]: Taking a multi use the multi-use path from the amphitheater. [2:06:52, 2:06:55]: Uh where it stops now. [2:06:55, 2:07:01]: and where it uh will be picked up and i'm gonna actually show that on the screen because i needed to talk about that [2:07:01, 2:07:02]: Just for a moment. [2:07:03, 2:07:04]: Um [2:07:04, 2:07:05]: Yeah. [2:07:08, 2:07:20]: So this is the Lee Street improvements. Can I go through this? This is a newer project, so I just want to make sure we're on the same page. This is Bryant Street on the top of the page. [2:07:21, 2:07:26]: And then down here is the amphitheater drive right across from Ceresa Drive. [2:07:27, 2:07:28]: Oh [2:07:28, 2:07:30]: This portion of Lee Street. [2:07:31, 2:07:31]: From [2:07:32, 2:07:37]: one thirty eight highway one thirty eight northern boulevard all the way through this project to right here. [2:07:37, 2:07:39]: Well, my hand is on the screen. [2:07:40, 2:07:41]: Is part of the existing [2:07:42, 2:07:42]: Why in? [2:07:43, 2:07:45]: Uh it has the eight foot path. [2:07:45, 2:07:48]: Газа стріт тресь, газ стріт ламп. [2:07:48, 2:07:51]: Um we're extending that part of the project. [2:07:52, 2:08:03]: to include extending the multi-use path up to uh Bryant Street, extending the street trees and extending the landscaping and the decorative street lights. [2:08:03, 2:08:09]: and proposing an overlay uh to make everything from Bryant Street up to North Indian Boulevard. [2:08:10, 2:08:13]: Um will be resurfaced and look uh look nice. [2:08:13, 2:08:14]: Complete. [2:08:14, 2:08:16]: Um there was a comment. [2:08:16, 2:08:17]: I just wanted to kinda [2:08:18, 2:08:26]: I put it out there of taking the multi-use path, uh, the eight-foot path on the north side of the amphitter drive and connecting it. [2:08:27, 2:08:27]: Here. [2:08:28, 2:08:40]: Um there we are I'm actually going out there if it stops raining this afternoon, but if not tomorrow, to look at this one area uh right here. There's a stream head. [2:08:40, 2:08:43]: that is directly adjacent to the curb. [2:08:43, 2:08:45]: On the uh amphitheater drive. [2:08:45, 2:08:52]: So I've got to go out and make sure that we have adequate room to do the eight foot path there. If we do. [2:08:52, 2:08:56]: We can just add that eight foot path as part of this project. [2:08:56, 2:09:03]: uh up through here if we don't we'll need to to put pull back in punt and come up with a different scenario. [2:09:03, 2:09:11]: But uh I'll be out there again just looking outside it's still raining, but if it stops, it'll be out this afternoon. If not, we'll go out tomorrow and check that out and see if we can make that happen. [2:09:12, 2:09:13]: Um [2:09:14, 2:09:19]: This is the extra parking layout that we've got. It actually works very well. [2:09:19, 2:09:26]: Uh we've got one little parking spot on the north side and then we've got another larger parking bay on the south side. [2:09:26, 2:09:30]: uh design it to meet your uh city of stop bridge guidelines. [2:09:30, 2:09:36]: But also wanted to point out we've got ninety three new spaces, but we're trying to work around [2:09:36, 2:09:42]: Some of those large hardwoods that are out there. So we got a 24 inch hardwood and a 36 inch big tree. [2:09:43, 2:09:49]: That we're trying to work around for the general aesthetics of the area. Um, we can get a couple more parking spaces, but I'm afraid if we do. [2:09:50, 2:09:52]: We're gonna end up tearing out those trees and [2:09:53, 2:09:58]: We can preserve them, I think it'll help with the atmosphere, uh making sure it's best in class for this area. So [2:09:59, 2:09:59]: Um [2:10:00, 2:10:01]: Anyway, that's that project. [2:10:03, 2:10:05]: Just wanna make sure I hit that one. [2:10:05, 2:10:06]: For everybody. [2:10:07, 2:10:10]: The downtown alley oop the downtown alleyway project. [2:10:12, 2:10:22]: Uh we have gotten our permit from the city yesterday actually. So we submitted those several months back. Uh went through the review process. The city has now approved those plans. [2:10:22, 2:10:26]: Um on September twenty seventh at six PM [2:10:27, 2:10:32]: uh we are meeting with the city staff and with the uh [2:10:32, 2:10:51]: the people that own or lease uh the spaces downtown to go through the plan with them, show them what uh we're doing, make sure that there's adequate buy-in. And then the city uh attorneys, they've already they already have the right of way documents to access these documents that we need to complete the project. [2:10:51, 2:10:53]: So they will be pursuing those after that meeting. [2:10:55, 2:11:01]: Uh Love Street, uh we were asked last time to do a survey of the fire station. We have done that. [2:11:01, 2:11:06]: Uh we did the field survey, we've done the draft survey, submitted that to the city for the review. [2:11:06, 2:11:07]: Um [2:11:08, 2:11:14]: There is a uh we we need some more title information from the city attorney and we've been working with them on that. [2:11:15, 2:11:19]: Uh to get some more chain of vital information on that fire station. [2:11:20, 2:11:23]: And last but not least, Skip is going to talk about [2:11:24, 2:11:26]: Another exciting topic, stormwater. [2:11:26, 2:11:46]: And as you know, we're uh we do on-call work with uh the public works department and the stormwater division. And I'm sure some of the council members are probably the ones that uh brought these projects to to varying uh attention. But we have four uh projects right now that the city has already approved, they're all ready to go. [2:11:46, 2:12:06]: Go. We're waiting on contractor, uh, the contractor's schedule right now. The last uh conversation I have with contractors, he's ready to start uh some of these projects in about two weeks. Uh that was uh, but he's trying to, you know, again, these things crop up here and there, so he has to move his forces around. [2:12:06, 2:12:26]: to uh address them. We've already got uh projects, we've already got approved pricing, we've got all of that. As a matter of fact, uh this past week we just got a new project that's been submitted to Deshaus for his review. Uh we've already made our comments and our recommendations and we're waiting on that one. But all these are ongoing [2:12:26, 2:12:40]: And we work with your uh public works department, stormwater division, and the uh annual labor contractor that you have for this type of work. And those projects are proceeding as quickly as possible. [2:12:43, 2:12:51]: All right, Mayor. Well that's uh that's what we have uh as updates and project statuses. Um got a couple [2:12:52, 2:13:07]: Yeah, I got got a qu got a question for you. I'm gonna have a couple questions here. Uh first thing, maybe I might have missed it, John, but in reference to Lee Street and the parking and uh uh on Lee Street, the additional parking, and then of course the pathway all the way down to Bryant Street. [2:13:08, 2:13:28]: Uh uh how about the maybe I might have missed this, a widening of the street. In the street, are we going to widen the street for for commute for transportation back and forth both ways? And is and if so, uh acquisition of any type of right-of-ways uh from those those col uh those bid uh homes there or anything like that? I mean it's something I just maybe I'm [2:13:28, 2:13:29]: I might have missed something here. [2:13:29, 2:13:34]: So we are not widening anything to the uh east. [2:13:35, 2:13:38]: So on the Lee Street improvements, um [2:13:39, 2:13:40]: There's uh [2:13:41, 2:13:49]: There's there's one area down here on the can you guys see my screen? Yes, we can. Go ahead, screen. Okay, so there's one small area down here on the bottom of the page. [2:13:50, 2:13:55]: That is where we need to acquire some right of way. Um on this. [2:13:55, 2:13:56]: uh page. [2:13:57, 2:14:02]: But that's part of the Lee Street project. So that's part of the project that's already been bid. [2:14:02, 2:14:08]: Uh to a contractor and the right-of-way documents for acquisition were given back in February. [2:14:08, 2:14:11]: on that one uh to the city attorneys. [2:14:12, 2:14:13]: And uh [2:14:13, 2:14:23]: been following up uh regularly with them, probably pestering them. But uh I know that they're moving forward with those right of way acquisition documents. [2:14:23, 2:14:41]: Moving but what we did is we widened everything to your side, the property that you own, so you wouldn't have to go acquire any more right-of-way other than that. Okay. Uh when we move forward on Lee Street on this last little phase, you actually have a little bit wider right-of-way. You can kind of see where [2:14:42, 2:14:44]: Pops out here and pops out there. [2:14:44, 2:14:45]: Mm-hmm. Um [2:14:45, 2:14:51]: So we are not anticipating needing to gain any additional right-of-way or easements. [2:14:52, 2:14:53]: Uh for this little project. [2:14:54, 2:14:54]: Okay. [2:14:55, 2:15:03]: All right. Thank you. That's uh that's what I need to know. Appreciate it. Hey, council, any questions for um uh John and uh and his team here at all? [2:15:04, 2:15:06]: Anybody else? Yeah, Mayor. [2:15:06, 2:15:08]: No, hey, put way a couple of blood. [2:15:09, 2:15:11]: Uh yeah, thank you for the uh presentation. [2:15:11, 2:15:12]: Um [2:15:13, 2:15:14]: I would [2:15:14, 2:15:18]: I I guess I would've hoped that we had the um I I really appreciate you all uh [2:15:18, 2:15:20]: what you're doing and and [2:15:20, 2:15:27]: And the beautification that you all are taking all the way down to Bryant Street and you're moving forward with everything as far as the empathy is concerned, even with the parking. [2:15:28, 2:15:28]: Um I would [2:15:29, 2:15:31]: I would that the I would hope that the [2:15:32, 2:15:37]: Sound mitigation situation we resolved uh prior to our first concert, but [2:15:37, 2:15:40]: Are you all and I'm Miss Thank you right now for all is [2:15:40, 2:15:44]: Is Falcons gonna be involved with the med sound mitigation portion? [2:15:45, 2:15:50]: And if so, when when would that actually take place?'Cause I have no idea. I'm being asked questions, I have no idea. [2:15:51, 2:15:58]: Yeah, I I yes, Falcon would be involved in looking at um whatever sound mitigation could take place there. [2:15:58, 2:16:02]: Given a couple of different various methods, of course, you know. [2:16:03, 2:16:07]: What's being done now, of course, is some some tree buffers. [2:16:07, 2:16:08]: And so forth, but [2:16:09, 2:16:09]: You know [2:16:10, 2:16:20]: having to take a look at some other options that might mitigate sound on that that area. We certainly will have would have Falcon involved in doing that and give us some options to take a look at. [2:16:20, 2:16:23]: I mean I I you know without going into detail, I mean [2:16:23, 2:16:27]: When we had the test event, we we did check some sound levels. [2:16:27, 2:16:30]: Um over in the back portion of our parking lot. [2:16:30, 2:16:43]: Um and they're quite different from obviously the front of the stage where the sound is coming out. But be that as it may, um, we certainly I'll uh make sure that uh they provide us with some options for sound mitigation as soon as possible. [2:16:45, 2:16:45]: Okay. [2:16:46, 2:16:47]: Uh Cosmore Thomas, go ahead, sir. [2:16:48, 2:16:54]: Yeah, thank you. Um I had to step out uh for a few minutes and I don't know if you are presented the um [2:16:55, 2:16:57]: Ride share uh area. [2:16:57, 2:17:00]: I have two questions, but let me just deal with that one first. [2:17:02, 2:17:18]: Councilman Thomas, we we actually did not, we uh we dealt with that one and and submitted that at a previous uh meeting. And actually Randy may be able to speak to it as well, but we he had a a committee that was put in place. Um [2:17:19, 2:17:22]: For mobility and I think safety. [2:17:22, 2:17:27]: That we went through and made a couple changes to the uh ride sharing. [2:17:27, 2:17:31]: Um I don't have that pulled up uh with me right now, but I can certainly [2:17:32, 2:17:35]: Send that back to you guys uh as an exhibit. [2:17:35, 2:17:35]: Oh [2:17:36, 2:17:37]: What [2:17:37, 2:17:41]: us and the committee uh kind of went through to to come up with that location. [2:17:42, 2:17:42]: Yeah. [2:17:43, 2:17:44]: Real quick. [2:17:44, 2:17:48]: I can uh briefly address that of course the the rideshare location in the [2:17:49, 2:17:51]: Determined about the municipal port area. [2:17:51, 2:17:54]: Remember, you know, the municipal court is being a rideshare area. [2:17:55, 2:17:58]: We did start looking at perhaps another option. [2:17:58, 2:17:59]: On [2:18:00, 2:18:02]: The main amphitheater wave. [2:18:03, 2:18:07]: In other words, people come in off of East Atlanta Road. [2:18:07, 2:18:10]: come in one way on amphitheater way. [2:18:11, 2:18:17]: drop off on uh near the buildings and then they keep going down Lee Street. I'm talking rideshare. [2:18:17, 2:18:20]: We were trying to figure out if that was a [2:18:20, 2:18:25]: might provide a better option um for rideshare to pick up and drop off. [2:18:26, 2:18:29]: Um, but that's that was the that was the discussion that's been been had. [2:18:30, 2:18:42]: Right. Uh my own my other comment has to do with the with with with the sound. Uh Mr. Night, you may recall um in the very, very beginning. [2:18:43, 2:18:47]: I raised the concern about uh sound, noise. [2:18:48, 2:18:49]: Uh some kind of buffer. [2:18:50, 2:18:52]: Uh on the back side. [2:18:53, 2:18:54]: Uh from [2:18:55, 2:18:56]: Lee Street. [2:18:57, 2:19:00]: to the um [2:19:00, 2:19:01]: East Atlanta Row [2:19:02, 2:19:05]: So I just wanna sort of sort of just mention it. I know [2:19:06, 2:19:18]: Uh we got a little pushback on that because of the aesthetics and how it would look. And now here we are trying to trying to deal with that. But I just wanted to sort of just bring that forward because [2:19:18, 2:19:19]: Um [2:19:20, 2:19:25]: You know, I'm a little familiar with with with those barriers. You know, I live in an area where [2:19:25, 2:19:26]: We have blasting [2:19:27, 2:19:28]: Uh at the quarry. [2:19:28, 2:19:45]: Uh we have uh the transfer stations. So I'm I'm accustomed to noise and missing now. You may recall where we had citizens complaining about even the backup beepers. So I just want to just say that, you know, this was a concern of mine from the beginning. [2:19:45, 2:19:46]: Of trying to [2:19:47, 2:19:51]: uh, you know, deal with that uh proactively, you know, in the very, very beginning. [2:19:52, 2:19:55]: But you know, I I didn't get any support on that and and [2:19:55, 2:19:58]: Folks will talk about how how that would look. [2:19:58, 2:20:15]: um, you know, some kind of uh uh sound barrier there and now we here we are trying to deal with that. So uh I guess it's never too late to do that, but uh I just want to sort of just bring that factor out that you know I I attempted to address that, you know, from the very beginning. [2:20:17, 2:20:18]: I yield back, Mayor. [2:20:18, 2:20:31]: Okay, thank you, sir. Hey John, I would think this project list uh can we obtain a copy of this list here? Is that I'll uh I'll share this with uh the clerk and with uh Schneiden. [2:20:31, 2:20:34]: Okay, I appreciate it. Council, any other questions for [2:20:34, 2:20:35]: For Faculty Design. [2:20:36, 2:20:49]: Yes. Go right in, uh Mr. Yeah. Uh I think Mr. Knighton sent us this list uh previously, but I could be wrong. Uh yeah, I I sent you a modified list. This is more detailed. This is more detailed. Okay. I know I saw some of this stuff on there. [2:20:49, 2:20:52]: Now in terms of let let's let's [2:20:53, 2:20:55]: Інолес безби анест. [2:20:55, 2:21:00]: about what's going on. If you live next to the amphitheater. [2:21:00, 2:21:03]: We're not gonna be able to eliminate the sound. [2:21:04, 2:21:05]: It's just it's just how it is. [2:21:06, 2:21:12]: There's going to be sound. We had experts to go out and take the sound. [2:21:12, 2:21:16]: And to do what's necessary. The direction of the amphitheater was. [2:21:16, 2:21:20]: Uh placed in a way to project most of the sound out to the street. [2:21:20, 2:21:26]: But in the end, there's nothing that we can do that's going to eliminate the sound. There's not gonna happen. [2:21:26, 2:21:30]: So I want us to be uh completely honest with the citizens. [2:21:30, 2:21:31]: It's not going to is [2:21:31, 2:21:36]: Well, no matter what we do, we can spend a hundred million dollars. It's not gonna eliminate the sound. [2:21:36, 2:21:38]: But in the end we can try to [2:21:38, 2:21:42]: Make sure which we did we end the concerts at a reasonable hour. [2:21:43, 2:21:44]: Uh eleven o'clock. [2:21:44, 2:21:47]: So that and then most of the concerts will be on the weekend. [2:21:48, 2:21:52]: And that's how we're gonna do things, but I certainly did not support [2:21:52, 2:21:55]: uh putting up any type of barrier or anything because of [2:21:56, 2:21:58]: The aesthetics and to make sure that [2:21:58, 2:22:00]: What we did was in keeping [2:22:00, 2:22:07]: With uh with the community. We certainly want to be sensitive uh to the community and making sure that we end. [2:22:07, 2:22:09]: uh at a reasonable time [2:22:09, 2:22:10]: And that we um [2:22:10, 2:22:12]: And that we do continue to monitor. [2:22:13, 2:22:14]: The overall sound. [2:22:14, 2:22:19]: uh uh in the community and then again when the parking lot is empty [2:22:19, 2:22:21]: And all of that's going on, it certainly does. [2:22:21, 2:22:41]: uh lend itself to a louder projection of the sound. Whereas when the venue is filled and the parking lot is filled, some of that will help mitigate the sound all on its own. But you may hear crowd cheering uh instead of hearing the noise uh coming from the amphitheater. But I just want to make sure that we're being [2:22:41, 2:22:42]: Uh crystal clear. [2:22:43, 2:22:45]: uh with the citizens and understanding that [2:22:45, 2:22:47]: Uh there's a lot that went into the project. [2:22:48, 2:22:51]: And and I hear a lot of concerns about how much the amphitheater [2:22:51, 2:22:58]: It's gonna cost and running up the cost. But if it's a project my friend wanna see, then exactly. [2:22:58, 2:23:01]: Uh I don't care how much it costs. Nobody asked how much it's gonna cost. [2:23:02, 2:23:05]: Nobody's saying any of that, but every time we m step forward. [2:23:05, 2:23:07]: to move forward with the project. [2:23:07, 2:23:09]: Then there's complaints. [2:23:09, 2:23:11]: About how much it costs. [2:23:11, 2:23:16]: So I'm kind of confused about why the two differences in the in terms of [2:23:17, 2:23:25]: In this instance, nobody's asking how much it costs. But in the other instance, folks, every time we move forward with a project, we're talking about how much it costs. [2:23:26, 2:23:38]: You know, it said a complainer complains, but they offer no solutions. And that's kind of where uh we gotta make sure that we're understanding that if you come to the table with things that you want to do. [2:23:39, 2:23:42]: Tell us your option. What what is it that we can do? [2:23:43, 2:23:47]: That you would offer if you're offering a different solution. [2:23:47, 2:23:49]: To this problem or any other problem. [2:23:50, 2:23:53]: Anybody can complain. Tell us what you would do. [2:23:53, 2:23:57]: And in the end, the staff has put a lot of work into accomplishing [2:23:58, 2:24:00]: What we accomplished and it's brilliant. [2:24:00, 2:24:04]: Everything is working out to detail. I want to thank Falcon for [2:24:04, 2:24:05]: This detailed list. [2:24:06, 2:24:26]: We want to make sure that we stick to a solid timetable to move all of these projects forward, especially the wayfinding, because we want people to have a sign when they get off the interstate, directing them to the amphitheater and to the new culture or Kara Mayhem Culture Art and Enrichment Center. All of those projects would do extremely [2:24:25, 2:24:26]: We will. [2:24:26, 2:24:32]: Uh update uh Mr. Knight, when is the amphitheater park is gonna open? When do we see that happening? [2:24:36, 2:24:39]: Walkway areas over there should be uh [2:24:39, 2:24:45]: by Monday, by Monday it should be done. There's some cleanup, a little cleanup work that still had to be done, but that should be Monday. [2:24:45, 2:25:01]: Okay, and then the the last thing, this is another indication where the ARPA funds were able to be used because we were proactive and we had shovel ready projects to move forward. So when that money, extra money showed up. [2:25:01, 2:25:13]: We were ready to go. We didn't have to start because we're moving it forward aggressively. We have projects to spend the money on now because we've been working on them the whole time. Is that correct? [2:25:18, 2:25:27]: So I'm sorry, I think we've uh committed about six hundred and fifty thousand dollars so far of our ARPA funds on projects that were were essentially ready to go. [2:25:28, 2:25:30]: About six hundred fifty thousand. [2:25:30, 2:25:43]: I I I want folks to understand that because we didn't wait. We didn't say, well, you know, let's we're not ready yet. We didn't do it. We were already ready and stayed. And when the money showed up, that ain't nothing but God. Thank you. [2:25:44, 2:25:49]: Uh Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. Thank you, Mayor. Um I do [2:25:49, 2:25:54]: Um appreciate the presentation. Thanks so much for that. It was really good. [2:25:54, 2:25:57]: Um so far and [2:25:57, 2:26:02]: I think what we're saying is let's find out the cost. [2:26:02, 2:26:22]: Of some type of sound barriers or solution. Not necessarily, it doesn't matter what the cost is, but to do research on it. I think that's what we're having to do right now. And one of the citizens actually sent over some documents to us in regards to looking at, um, I believe there's a website, noisesolutions.com. In addition to that. [2:26:22, 2:26:23]: That [2:26:23, 2:26:43]: Um one of someone from the previous neighborhood also talked about looking at the there's uh scientific information that discuss ways of baits and hertz. So on soundsolutions.com, there are different things besides the aesthetics of a sound barrier wall, there are other options that may [2:26:43, 2:26:58]: work better. And so I actually sent an email to our city manager asking just to look into it so that we can look at costs and expenses. I just want that to be known that you know being proactive as far as [2:26:58, 2:27:08]: Not we definitely aren't voting for something and don't know the cost of it. I I'm a stickler for that. But we we do want to get some type of resolution. [2:27:08, 2:27:13]: um excuse me we do want to get some type of resolution done where [2:27:14, 2:27:22]: Or or something resolved where we can mitigate or relieve those that are complaining of noise. We did. [2:27:22, 2:27:23]: Um [2:27:23, 2:27:40]: strategically place the amphitheater in a manner where the sound would go towards the railroad tracks, not necessarily behind us or around us. It's projected out towards the audience. So that is something that I do know this entire mayor and council. [2:27:40, 2:27:43]: Um, would agree that we yeah, we try to [2:27:44, 2:27:45]: You know, reduce [2:27:45, 2:27:54]: Things as much as possible. We also have this beyond a 10-year plan, and these are all a part of our LCI. So we [2:27:54, 2:28:06]: Right now we're coming up with some type of resolution or looking into it. And I would suggest that we also look at some of the things that have been sent to us, audioholics.com. [2:28:07, 2:28:09]: Noise solutions dot com [2:28:09, 2:28:15]: And looking into um keeping the hertz at 80 or above. [2:28:15, 2:28:17]: So it won't be as bad. [2:28:17, 2:28:23]: or whatever the case may be, if it's the normal projection for professional amphitheaters just such as ours. [2:28:24, 2:28:24]: That's all. [2:28:26, 2:28:28]: Right, uh [2:28:28, 2:28:31]: Okay. Any other comments before we close this session out? Because I believe the [2:28:32, 2:28:34]: Falcon Design has another uh appointment here. [2:28:35, 2:28:37]: And we don't want to delay their next appointment. [2:28:38, 2:28:40]: So if the no other comments okay. [2:28:41, 2:28:43]: Yeah, I got one more. I got one real quick. [2:28:43, 2:28:45]: All right, make this last one. Go ahead, sir. [2:28:46, 2:28:51]: Um, I just wanna say, Mayor, there's a difference between mitigate and eliminate. [2:28:51, 2:28:52]: Um [2:28:52, 2:29:00]: When you see highway projects, that's mitigating sound. It don't eliminate the traffic sound, it mitigates it, meaning it brings us the sound lower. [2:29:00, 2:29:02]: When we was building this amphitheater [2:29:03, 2:29:06]: That was a component of the completion of the amphitheater. [2:29:07, 2:29:09]: And to sit on here and say, Hey [2:29:10, 2:29:14]: Uh, I'm not gonna I would never tell a citizen I'm not gonna try. [2:29:14, 2:29:15]: to resolve issues. [2:29:16, 2:29:18]: And so when we talk about mitigating sound [2:29:19, 2:29:29]: That's what we s that's our responsibility. Our responsibility is also to to try to keep the integrity of communities intact as we move the city forward and as we build around them. [2:29:30, 2:29:32]: And I I I understand that [2:29:32, 2:29:37]: They were there before the amphitheater, but the amphitheater is there now, so we do the best we can do. [2:29:38, 2:29:44]: to make sure that we're trying to keep the that community whole as possible. That's why I wanted us to [2:29:44, 2:29:46]: Do the uh take the uh [2:29:46, 2:29:51]: uh uh Leaf Street project down the Berk street, do some beautification. That's how you try to [2:29:51, 2:29:55]: make communities whole as we still build around them. [2:29:55, 2:30:01]: So just something is something is as is mitigate if we can spend twenty something billion dollars on amphitheater. [2:30:01, 2:30:05]: We're talking about eighteen million dollars for a cultural art center. [2:30:05, 2:30:08]: We're talking about starting the police department implementing the tax. [2:30:08, 2:30:11]: But we want to sit here and say we don't want to [2:30:11, 2:30:13]: mitigate sound for a community. [2:30:13, 2:30:16]: put that that directly affects the community. [2:30:16, 2:30:22]: It makes no sense to me. So I'm for compl completely doing what we said we were gonna do. [2:30:22, 2:30:25]: Put mitigation in and continue continue to do the beautification. [2:30:26, 2:30:46]: All right. No, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We're done with this. All right. You need to let these gentlemen go. They got another commitment. You mentioned that earlier. Tom, Tom, thanks a lot. Take care of yourself. Appreciate it. And we look forward to all this, all these projects getting completed on time. All right. Appreciate it. And I'll send I'll send this over to the city so you guys can have it. [2:30:46, 2:30:47]: You're uh thing. [2:30:47, 2:30:52]: Appreciate it. Thank you. Mr. Light, we need to move on to the next presentation before we take lunch here. [2:30:53, 2:30:54]: Right. Thank you [2:30:55, 2:31:00]: Question Yes, yes, thank you, Mayor and Council of course, and uh to Faculty Design, thank you for your presentation as well. [2:31:01, 2:31:05]: Uh next up will be uh Mr. Peterson, Alec Peterson, our economic development director. [2:31:05, 2:31:09]: He'll briefly go over the DDA uh budget uh proposal. [2:31:10, 2:31:20]: uh which is not much different from from last year, but he'll go over that and then I spend some time talking about the downtown Stockbridge strategic plan, work plan uh items. [2:31:20, 2:31:21]: So Mr. Peterson. [2:31:23, 2:31:29]: Thank you very much, Mr. Knighton, and good morning, council and citizens that are tuning in online. [2:31:30, 2:31:35]: First I'm going to see share my screen so I can pull up that DDA budget. [2:31:47, 2:31:49]: All right. Can everyone see that? [2:31:49, 2:31:58]: Yes, sir. We can. All right. Uh as Mr. Knighton mentioned, the DDA budget is the exact same amount as last year. [2:31:58, 2:32:01]: And that figure is forty five thousand. [2:32:02, 2:32:03]: I have highlighted [2:32:03, 2:32:05]: The the only change. [2:32:06, 2:32:07]: Uh the only change is that [2:32:07, 2:32:12]: Um office expenses was added as a line item. [2:32:12, 2:32:13]: And [2:32:13, 2:32:18]: That line item is uh funded through miscellaneous expense. Um [2:32:18, 2:32:28]: So office expense would be 2,500 and miscellaneous expense would go to 500. Now I would like to say that this is a preliminary budget. [2:32:28, 2:32:35]: And on Tuesday, September the twenty-first at six p.m. the DDA will vote on this budget. [2:32:35, 2:32:39]: Uh so we won't have their official budget until they vote on that date. [2:32:42, 2:32:52]: Can I ask you something, Mr. Pearson? Yes, sir. But but you suspect that they'll approve this with no problem. You don't expect any problems with this, do you? Oh, absolutely not. I I expect them to approve this. Okay. All right. Thank you. [2:32:52, 2:32:52]: Mm-hmm. [2:32:56, 2:32:56]: All right. [2:32:57, 2:33:02]: Next, I'm going to get into the downtown Stockbridge 2021 strategic plan. [2:33:04, 2:33:06]: Let me pull that up right now. [2:33:17, 2:33:18]: All right. [2:33:20, 2:33:27]: Now, in June of 2021, Main Street and the Downtown Development Authority had a joint strategic plan, and this was very significant. [2:33:28, 2:33:33]: Because from my understanding, this was the first time that Main Street and DDA had done this. [2:33:33, 2:33:36]: The goal for this was because. [2:33:37, 2:33:38]: Uh we need everyone. [2:33:39, 2:33:43]: uh that's in economic development, all the internal partners to be on the same page. [2:33:44, 2:33:56]: And I'll get into the committees that were that were formed later. But uh during this session that was that was hosted by Mr. Joel Cordle, um surveys were taken, taken, uh we had group brainstorming activities. [2:33:57, 2:34:09]: And from that, strategies were formed and goals were formed from those strategies and definitions of success were put in place. And we also formed committees. So if you [2:34:10, 2:34:11]: Look at um [2:34:11, 2:34:21]: The blue highlight, the community transformation strategies, you will see two items, the transportation and pedestrian experience. Those are from the RSVP. [2:34:21, 2:34:25]: And number two, you'll see the business activation. [2:34:25, 2:34:26]: and development. [2:34:26, 2:34:28]: Uh also from the RSVP. [2:34:29, 2:34:29]: Um [2:34:31, 2:34:35]: Now you'll see goal one the pedestrian bridge on in Love Street. [2:34:35, 2:34:38]: Sidewalks and the definition for success for that. [2:34:38, 2:34:43]: Would have that bridge uh a hundred percent complete by December of twenty twenty four. [2:34:43, 2:34:45]: And the sidewalk project would be complete. [2:34:46, 2:34:48]: uh by jun twenty twenty three [2:34:48, 2:34:53]: Um the the common trend from all of these goals and tasks. [2:34:53, 2:35:00]: Is to capitalize off of the amphitheater. So that's the focus of the downtown development authority right now and also. [2:35:00, 2:35:01]: Uh Main Street. [2:35:05, 2:35:10]: You'll also see that next to the task, you'll see the persons responsible. [2:35:10, 2:35:13]: We have the city manager and staff, uh DDA and Main Street. [2:35:14, 2:35:19]: We have BRECA and community development helping us with some projects. It's also public works. [2:35:19, 2:35:21]: And you see economic development. [2:35:22, 2:35:22]: as well. [2:35:24, 2:35:32]: Now recently, um Roger Custon, who is over the Downtown Development Authority, and Kira Braggs, who's over [2:35:32, 2:35:33]: The main street. [2:35:34, 2:35:40]: Um they came together as as far and myself as well, and we formed four committees. [2:35:40, 2:35:46]: to further implement these tasks. Those committees are the Downtown Connectivity and Design Committee. [2:35:46, 2:35:49]: The downtown beautification and activation committee. [2:35:50, 2:35:55]: Tourism Product Development Committee and the Downtown Business Recruitment and Retention Committee. [2:35:55, 2:35:58]: Now I'm over the downtown business recruitment. [2:35:58, 2:36:00]: Committee uh BRR. [2:36:00, 2:36:01]: Is um [2:36:02, 2:36:05]: is the abbreviation and we're going to meet the first Monday. [2:36:05, 2:36:12]: at 6 p.m. And I'll get more into that BRR committee uh when I get into the economic development budget. [2:36:13, 2:36:23]: But um that is it for the downtown Stockbridge uh 2021 strategic work plan. Next month in October, all of these committees are scheduled to meet. [2:36:23, 2:36:26]: And then we're going to get into implementing these tasks. [2:36:28, 2:36:29]: Are there any questions? [2:36:30, 2:36:50]: Okay, so stand by one second, please. So otherwise there's several different goals here, but uh we have the we have the document, we can read through those goals. You just covered a schematic. Okay. So uh so we'll just have to read through these additional goals that are part of the strategic. [2:36:50, 2:36:55]: plan ourselves in this aspect. I've got to do that. Yes, I can um now um [2:36:55, 2:37:05]: Did everyone receive this document back in June when it was approved? If not, I can email it out. Well I think this document is part of our packet. I have I have in front of me, so I everybody should have a copy of this themselves. [2:37:06, 2:37:10]: Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. I'll take care of it. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [2:37:11, 2:37:20]: Yeah, uh let's talk about something that um we had in the past was the Stockbridge Association of Businesses, which has not um [2:37:20, 2:37:24]: been reconstituted. I think the council had expressed a desire. [2:37:24, 2:37:28]: that we wanted to assist the business owners into developing their own [2:37:29, 2:37:33]: uh organizations. We even had money in the budget, but nothing has happened with that. [2:37:34, 2:37:37]: Uh maybe you can talk about that or maybe Mr. Night can talk about it. [2:37:38, 2:37:48]: Yes, I'll I'll touch on that. I've spoken with Mr. Knight about that and I've spoken with Breca about that. And that is in the short-term work plan under economic development. Uh as you stated. [2:37:48, 2:37:49]: Uh the [2:37:50, 2:38:03]: Stockbridge Association of Businesses is no longer available. Um, we want to put that together. We are going to put that together. That's something that I want to do with the BRR committee, but we want to make sure that it's sustainable. [2:38:03, 2:38:05]: uh by itself. [2:38:05, 2:38:05]: Um [2:38:06, 2:38:13]: We would of course uh you know attend their meetings and help them out, but as far as uh collecting money and [2:38:14, 2:38:15]: You know, uh [2:38:16, 2:38:18]: typing up their minutes, we won't be able to do that. [2:38:19, 2:38:23]: So we do want to establish that, but we want to make sure that it is sustainable. [2:38:23, 2:38:25]: uh outside of the city. But we would of course be a partner. [2:38:26, 2:38:40]: Right. We want to make sure that they're uh we do what's necessary to help them set it up. So when do we anticipate that we will be able to um actually get into this to these steps or actually have them [2:38:40, 2:38:42]: uh start the process of forming it. [2:38:42, 2:38:43]: October the fourth. [2:38:44, 2:38:45]: Six PM. [2:38:45, 2:38:49]: Uh double point, six PM. Now that that's on the agenda or is it? [2:38:49, 2:38:52]: Yeah, that that's going to be on the uh on my committee agenda. [2:38:54, 2:38:56]: That um that that business association. [2:38:57, 2:39:00]: I'm over the downtown business recruitment and retention committee. [2:39:00, 2:39:05]: The BR committee, we meet the first we we're scheduled to meet the first Monday of every month. [2:39:05, 2:39:06]: Starting in October. [2:39:07, 2:39:15]: And establishing that is is on the agenda. That helps with recruitment and also retain our businesses. So that that's um a priority. [2:39:16, 2:39:36]: And one of the things I always want you to do in terms of our economic development situation is talk about what you do with the city and then how these business owners who are interested in coming to the city uh talk about those opportunities that are available and what uh is it that you can do. [2:39:36, 2:39:37]: Uh to assist them. [2:39:39, 2:39:45]: Right. Well we we meet with uh developers all the time. I I speak with them and and meet them. [2:39:46, 2:39:47]: Throughout the week. [2:39:47, 2:39:48]: Um [2:39:48, 2:39:50]: A a lot of those we we can't get in. [2:39:51, 2:39:57]: In into those discussions in public because a lot of them are well, the majority of those conversations are are private. [2:39:57, 2:40:01]: until something actually does conceptualize. But uh [2:40:01, 2:40:05]: We offer a lot of resources for our our businesses. [2:40:05, 2:40:08]: The UDC, I helped Breca out with that. [2:40:09, 2:40:13]: a lot also our downtown design guidelines. So what we do is [2:40:14, 2:40:16]: Um when we have a when we have a business [2:40:16, 2:40:17]: We [2:40:19, 2:40:19]: Oh for some. [2:40:23, 2:40:26]: Okay, when we when we have the business, what we do is we help them out with marketing. [2:40:27, 2:40:29]: Help them out with all their marketing needs. Um [2:40:30, 2:40:33]: ribbon cutting, anything um dealing dealing with that. [2:40:33, 2:40:35]: With the business recruitment. [2:40:36, 2:40:36]: And retention. [2:40:37, 2:40:50]: I already have the template for our business retention as well. That's going to be a two-part process. It'll be me having site visits with the business owners. There also be an online survey component. [2:40:50, 2:40:53]: Now with the online survey component. [2:40:53, 2:41:10]: We'll take that and we'll look at it and we'll see exactly where we need to help those businesses. Throughout the week, I'll be having site visits, visiting with the managers or the owners. I've also had conversations with Josh Finn about this because they have that business recruitment and retention. [2:41:11, 2:41:21]: committee as well. So Josh Finn will handle more of the uh more of the high level businesses and I'll handle more of the the local businesses. So we've been in conversations with [2:41:21, 2:41:23]: Uh Josh Finn and his staff about that. [2:41:23, 2:41:26]: And we're going to really get into that on October fourth. [2:41:26, 2:41:30]: And from my understanding, uh Josh Ken will have one of his board representatives. [2:41:30, 2:41:39]: uh on on Friday. So hopefully we can get more into that uh that then. But we've been working with Henry County Development Authority getting that program going as well. [2:41:40, 2:41:53]: Yes, I certainly look forward to the day that we get our own development authority up and running. We got two more members to appoint so that we can do exactly what you just said. My final question is I've been w we've been trying to pursue [2:41:54, 2:41:58]: Tax credits for businesses come into the community. [2:41:59, 2:42:04]: Where are we in terms of securing a opportunity zone tax credit? [2:42:04, 2:42:15]: uh for our businesses, where does that stand? Because you know, Jonesboro is taking off because they can offer these three hundred three thousand dollar tax credits for every job created. [2:42:15, 2:42:20]: Ten jobs is thirty-four thousand dollars every year for ten years. We gotta have that. [2:42:27, 2:42:35]: Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, um you froze on me. The last thing I heard you heard you mention was the opportunity tax credit in Jonesboro. [2:42:36, 2:42:40]: Right. We need to make sure that what are we doing and how close are we to it? [2:42:40, 2:42:52]: in terms of uh getting ourselves established so we can offer these businesses this tremendous tax credit of three thousand dollars a job because if they can get these tax credits for each job created. [2:42:53, 2:42:59]: it's gonna light the fire that we need. We we that needs to be our number one priority in economic development. [2:42:59, 2:43:16]: Right, I agree. I um I spoke, I actually spoke with Tracy Tracy Sanchez earlier this morning. She's our Region Three representative uh for DCA. And the Opportunity Zone designation study is on the short-term work plan as well. Uh Tracy and I spoke. [2:43:16, 2:43:19]: The issue with that is we need to check the census data. [2:43:19, 2:43:29]: Um and that will determine if we're eligible or not. But we meet next week to see exactly where we fall and see how we can take advantage of that, if we can, if we are in fact eligible. [2:43:31, 2:43:37]: That just needs to be on the fast track and I need yeah, we need something on that. We we gotta have it. [2:43:37, 2:43:48]: I agree. Oh, well, Tracy Sanchez is new. She's our new region rep. Um, she came in, I think, last month. The old rep rep left. So she she's catching up, but we're on the schedule for next week. [2:43:50, 2:44:04]: Mr. Peterson, just out of curiosity, uh, what what would make us eligible for something like that? What what are the criteria? If you know the criteria, what would make us eligible? Well, I I think it I think it changed. That's why we're meeting. That's why I'm going to meet with Tracy. It has something to do with the poverty rate. [2:44:05, 2:44:06]: Uh in the in the parcels. [2:44:07, 2:44:12]: So I'm going to find out exactly what we're eligible for and how we can take advantage of that. [2:44:12, 2:44:12]: Okay. [2:44:13, 2:44:18]: All right. Uh obviously when you find out you let us know. Obviously. Oh yes. Yes, I I will. I will because it'll be um [2:44:19, 2:44:27]: The application is going to take everybody. If we are eligible, it won't just be, you know, economic development. There's a lot of parts when you when you apply for those. [2:44:27, 2:44:30]: Okay, good deal. Council, any other questions for Mr. Peterson? [2:44:31, 2:44:32]: Anybody? [2:44:34, 2:44:45]: No, Mayor. Yes, Mayor. I just want Mr. Peterson to know that I think you did an excellent job on your presentation today, very informative and and gave some great details. Thank you so much. [2:44:47, 2:44:48]: Any other comments from Mr. Peterson? [2:44:51, 2:45:09]: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Beethoven. Appreciate it. Appreciate the presentation. All right. And uh Mr. Knight, back to you. And it looks like we're right at that time for months, it seems like. Right. Yes, yes, Mayor and Council. Thank everybody uh for the information provided thus far. Um and uh I think we are right there about on schedule, so. [2:45:10, 2:45:15]: I'm consistent with that. Um I believe uh now is the appropriate time to take the break. [2:45:15, 2:45:18]: And then reconvene uh sharply. [2:45:18, 2:45:22]: At one o'clock for economic development and main street budget presentations. [2:45:23, 2:45:28]: And then IT as well as uh public work. So I think we're in good shape. [2:45:28, 2:45:29]: Right. [2:45:29, 2:45:32]: So one o'clock, folks. Enjoy your lunch and we'll see you back then. [2:45:34, 2:45:35]: We can take you [3:08:48, 3:08:50]: All right. [3:08:51, 3:09:01]: Well hello. It's a three minutes to the hour, but uh seems though that all I have here with uh is me and Councilwoman woman barber. So good afternoon to you. Hopefully lunch was well. [3:09:02, 3:09:07]: And we'll wait for everybody else to join us. We are live on Facebook and it's being recorded. [3:09:15, 3:09:17]: Okay. [3:12:50, 3:12:55]: Welcome back folks. All right. So we get uh [3:12:57, 3:13:00]: Get a consensus in here and get uh the council back in. [3:13:02, 3:13:05]: You got the mayor pro tem and councilwoman Barber. [3:13:06, 3:13:09]: a clerk and uh city manager. [3:13:10, 3:13:12]: Okay. [3:13:13, 3:13:18]: Ms. Johnson, Alan Peterson, Ms. Braggs. [3:13:21, 3:13:23]: The rest of the council and our attorney. [3:13:24, 3:13:24]: Yeah. [3:13:30, 3:13:33]: Folks, we are recording and we are on Facebook Live at this point. [3:13:46, 3:13:50]: Miss Braggs, your picture doesn't match what you have what you're doing right now. [3:13:50, 3:13:52]: You're changing things up on us. [3:13:54, 3:13:57]: I just noticed that. [3:14:00, 3:14:00]: Okay. [3:14:09, 3:14:11]: Okay. [3:14:24, 3:14:24]: Okay. [3:14:34, 3:14:39]: Waiting for everybody to join us here. I got uh just three minutes after the hour, so [3:14:40, 3:14:44]: Hopefully everybody will line get in here quickly so we can get started in our afternoon session. [3:15:08, 3:15:10]: Welcome back, Miss Johnson. [3:15:14, 3:15:15]: Thank you, sir. How are you? [3:15:16, 3:15:16]: Alrighty. [3:15:21, 3:15:25]: I'm full. My sandwich was really large. Thank you. [3:15:29, 3:15:32]: Mr. Thomas is back. All right. [3:15:33, 3:15:34]: Welcome back. [3:15:50, 3:15:51]: The attorney is back. [3:15:52, 3:15:54]: Washington. Good to see you, sir. [3:15:55, 3:15:59]: Morning, I'm handling uh that other matter, so I'll be I'll still be here by phone. [3:16:00, 3:16:01]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [3:16:08, 3:16:10]: All right, uh let's see here. Um [3:16:12, 3:16:17]: Ms. P C okay. I'm gonna tell you what we're gonna do. Uh we have [3:16:18, 3:16:20]: We have a quorum. [3:16:20, 3:16:35]: The attorneys online, the clerks in place, the coun uh city managers in place. Um, Mr. Knighton, if you can, I'm gonna get the afternoon started started, but uh I'm I'm assuming that the other two council members will join us shortly, but we have a quorum, so we're gonna move forward. [3:16:35, 3:16:50]: And in your in your time, if you can make a make a note to reach out to them in a sense. So let's just start let's just start an afternoon session. And uh Mr. Knight, I'll hand it off to you to get things started this afternoon, please. [3:16:50, 3:16:54]: All right. Um okay for the afternoon session. Um obviously we have [3:16:55, 3:16:58]: Uh Mr. Peterson Economic Development and Miss Braggs with Main Street. [3:16:59, 3:17:03]: Uh their budget presentations will take take place between one and one thirty. [3:17:04, 3:17:12]: I IT will be joining us uh shortly uh for their 1:30 to 2 o'clock PM and then public works has the balance of the afternoon. [3:17:12, 3:17:17]: Um for uh their budget presentation, given you know the size and scope of their [3:17:17, 3:17:23]: uh budget so with that i don't think there's any reason to delay and mr [3:17:24, 3:17:26]: Uh Peterson, I guess, first. [3:17:28, 3:17:30]: All right. Thank you very much, Mr. Knighton. [3:17:30, 3:17:32]: I'm gonna go ahead and share my screen. [3:17:45, 3:17:47]: Right. Can everyone see my screen? [3:17:47, 3:17:49]: Not yet, sir. [3:17:57, 3:17:57]: There we go. [3:17:59, 3:18:01]: All right. Can everyone see my screen now? [3:18:01, 3:18:04]: You can now, sir. Yes. All right. Great. Great. [3:18:04, 3:18:11]: Okay, I'm going to go uh over the economic development budget, but first I'm going to just go over [3:18:12, 3:18:12]: Um [3:18:13, 3:18:21]: What we do, what we've been doing, and what we plan on doing. Um, Kara and I are sharing a time slot, so I'll go through that rather quickly. [3:18:21, 3:18:23]: Uh before I get to the [3:18:24, 3:18:26]: A line item decreases and decreases. [3:18:27, 3:18:32]: All right, the purpose is to just improve the economic development, well being and quality of life. [3:18:32, 3:18:38]: in the city of Stockbridge through programs, policies, and activities that create or retain jobs. [3:18:40, 3:18:44]: Uh, this is our economic development strategy, uh, support small business grow growth. [3:18:45, 3:18:49]: Position and market development sites and support business attraction and development. [3:18:49, 3:18:50]: Of stock rage. [3:18:50, 3:18:53]: And of course to en enhance the city's competitiveness. [3:18:55, 3:19:00]: These are the three foundational programs that we're basing our economic development department off of. [3:19:00, 3:19:02]: uh business retention and expansion. [3:19:03, 3:19:06]: business attraction and business creation set slash entrepreneurship. [3:19:07, 3:19:09]: Um the business retention. [3:19:09, 3:19:12]: Business recruit recruitment and retention committee. [3:19:12, 3:19:18]: that I mentioned in the strategic planning portion is sort of a combination between A and B. [3:19:18, 3:19:24]: And uh see business creation slash entrepreneurship. That's a whole nother program. [3:19:24, 3:19:25]: I'll um [3:19:26, 3:19:28]: I'll discuss that later on in the in the presentation. [3:19:30, 3:19:36]: These are just some of the past and current projects and future projects. Uh, when with economic development. [3:19:36, 3:19:39]: No project is ever officially over. [3:19:39, 3:19:41]: All are basically ongoing. [3:19:41, 3:19:57]: Um Main Street DGA strategic plan that'll be ongoing until all those items are completed. We have the short-term work plan that we also discussed, uh the UDC downtown design guidelines, Breca discussed that on yesterday, and also annexation. [3:19:58, 3:20:00]: uh future projects, uh the CID. [3:20:01, 3:20:04]: We've been working with the consultant and also the county on that. [3:20:05, 3:20:08]: Uh we've we've also focused on our [3:20:08, 3:20:20]: establishing our international presence. We've been speaking with consultants about having sister city alliances with cities outside of the country and our entrepreneurial ecosystem development. [3:20:20, 3:20:26]: I've been speaking with consultants about establishing that. That's a professional service. [3:20:26, 3:20:30]: So the cost of those programs or that program will not be included. [3:20:30, 3:20:32]: in the budget, it will be separate. [3:20:34, 3:20:35]: Okay, um [3:20:36, 3:20:42]: Gonna get to the to the budget right now. Uh the first line item, uh professional services. [3:20:42, 3:20:44]: Uh I am proposing that that [3:20:44, 3:20:48]: Increases from five five uh thousand to fifteen thousand. [3:20:49, 3:21:07]: To help with acquiring consultants. As of right now, CoStar is the only professional service that we're using. CoSTAR is a real estate database and it's come in very handy. I use that when I'm speaking with consultants and we're looking for sites in Stockbridge. [3:21:07, 3:21:13]: So I'm proposing that that increases by 10,000. Uh printing and binding is the next line item. [3:21:13, 3:21:25]: Um, I'm suggesting that printing and binding is reduced from three thousand to uh fifteen hundred. Nothing has been spent in printing and binding as of July of 2021. [3:21:27, 3:21:47]: Mr. Mr. Peterson, can you go back? I got a question about that. You're asking for a reduction in printing and binding, but the reduction, we've been in a pandemic. Would that would eventually we're gonna come out as pandemic? So we do not need that amount because I'm hoping we'll come out as pandemic in the next three, four months, maybe, and or as we get into the next fiscal year. [3:21:47, 3:22:03]: Would that is that something that affected what was done during the course of this last year? I mean, that's why you're I don't I don't I don't think it it did. Um travel, which is a line item I'm gonna discuss shortly, was it was impacted by COVID. I don't think printing and binding was impacted uh in the future. [3:22:04, 3:22:05]: If [3:22:05, 3:22:11]: If you know we we have events and uh you we need to to print and and buy an items, I'll just move some things over. [3:22:12, 3:22:19]: Um, but I I don't think that we're going to to need to keep that at at three thousand. I'm trying to cut where I can. [3:22:19, 3:22:22]: Okay. Um and I I think we can afford to to cut right there. [3:22:22, 3:22:24]: All right, so be it. Thank you. [3:22:26, 3:22:33]: All right, next travel. I'm going to keep travel at 2500, many meetings and conferences. [3:22:33, 3:22:38]: Uh we're virtual due to COVID-19, as the mayor and I just discussed. Uh we [3:22:38, 3:22:39]: We hopefully [3:22:40, 3:22:45]: plan on getting out more in in the next year. So I'm gonna keep that at twenty five hundred for right now. [3:22:46, 3:22:56]: Uh dues and fees has been increased from five hundred to sixteen hundred to pay for the following organizations. Uh this year I had to make had to make um [3:22:56, 3:22:57]: Budget adjustments. [3:22:57, 3:23:12]: to pay for memberships in these organizations. And that came from printing and binding, travel and things of that nature. So that's that's how I was able to participate in in these organizations this year. [3:23:15, 3:23:20]: Training and education, uh, an increase from three thousand to five thousand. [3:23:20, 3:23:26]: Um education and training will will include economic development classes. [3:23:26, 3:23:30]: Going towards the Georgia Economic Developer Certification. [3:23:30, 3:23:37]: and the certified economic developers certification course as well. One is national and and one is local. [3:23:37, 3:23:40]: And I have been attending um those courses this year. [3:23:41, 3:23:52]: Uh post-its has been decreased from 700 to 500. Nothing has been spent out of postage as of as of July 2021. That should be 2021 instead of 2020. [3:23:55, 3:23:58]: Supplies and materials. Uh, when I got here in January. [3:23:58, 3:24:02]: I purchased a lot of the supplies that I would need for my office. [3:24:02, 3:24:08]: Uh that's why I'm I'm going for a a thousand dollar decrease from two thousand to one thousand in this line item. [3:24:10, 3:24:30]: Hospitality, food, and beverage has also been decreased from 2,000 to 1,000. Obviously, we didn't have any events because of COVID. If we do have events, there will probably be joint events with DDA Main Street Community Development. So cost for hospitality food and beverage will probably be will be split. [3:24:30, 3:24:40]: But if I need to move some money around, I think I will be able to and still be able to decrease right now on this budget. [3:24:43, 3:24:55]: Now, one new line item that I'm proposing is for the business recruitment and retention committee. Uh that was discussed before lunch when I spoke about the strategic plan. Um, I'm proposing. [3:24:56, 3:24:58]: At uh ten thousand. [3:24:58, 3:25:08]: be added in that line item. That way we can work on marketing and really recruiting businesses and retaining the current businesses that we do have. [3:25:10, 3:25:11]: And [3:25:13, 3:25:16]: This is a uh a a breakdown um [3:25:16, 3:25:22]: We looked at 131,596,000 in 2021. [3:25:22, 3:25:42]: Uh without the additional line item, the 2022 economic development budget is 138,245 and 41 cents. That's a$6,649.41 increase from uh 2021 to 2022. If the new line item is approved, [3:25:42, 3:25:47]: That will obviously go up to$16,649.41. [3:25:49, 3:25:51]: And this is a [3:25:52, 3:26:00]: A shot of the budget. This shot does not include the proposed the proposed BRR committee. [3:26:01, 3:26:02]: Well I don't. [3:26:05, 3:26:08]: Okay, Mr. Peterson, I uh uh could you go back one more slide, please? [3:26:10, 3:26:30]: Yes, sir. Could you further explain that okay, the ten thousand dollars you're asking for additional line item, business recruitment, attention, necessary to get more, attract more businesses and market more business to our downtown area or maybe even to uh bridges Johto Cole. Is that what that'd be used for in that aspect? Is that what you per perceive this? Yes, um, and and retain our current business business. [3:26:29, 3:26:32]: businesses as well. [3:26:32, 3:26:40]: And then as you went through it to six, you just froze. I don't know if you can hear me or not, but you're not. I can hear you, sir. I'm I can hear you. [3:26:40, 3:26:58]: You good you can hear me now or not? I'm I'm good now. Okay. Um and the six thousand, you know, six, you know, six point six thousand in uh increase, obviously you covered that with part of your explanation there covered all that as well and that aspect. Okay. So um [3:26:58, 3:27:03]: All right, all right. Just um I just need a little clarification. I appreciate it. Um [3:27:04, 3:27:10]: Any other questions uh from the council um on um Mr. Peterson's report? Anybody got any thoughts or questions here? [3:27:12, 3:27:26]: Go ahead, Mayor Potem. He um he unmuted. Mr. This is what it really comes down to is results. And we need to see some results out of each department uh in the city. And that will be birth that will be proved out in [3:27:27, 3:27:29]: New business is coming to downtown. [3:27:29, 3:27:30]: Or um [3:27:31, 3:27:32]: Um [3:27:32, 3:27:35]: In the in in the city in general. [3:27:35, 3:27:40]: So is there anything that you can share with us about any particular business coming to the city? [3:27:40, 3:27:46]: Or is pretty much everything uh confidential at this point of view? Anything any breaking news? [3:27:47, 3:28:01]: It's it's confidential uh at this point. We have had an increase though. Uh I did speak with Unita last week and there has been an increase in businesses from uh July to August and also 2021 to 2022. [3:28:03, 3:28:04]: But I have um [3:28:04, 3:28:06]: Uh meeting with a [3:28:06, 3:28:10]: consultant next week uh about the sister cities initiative. [3:28:10, 3:28:13]: Also a site visit uh in two weeks. [3:28:14, 3:28:19]: for a a a potential business well a business that wants to potentially relocate the stock bridge. [3:28:20, 3:28:22]: Okay, thank you. Results. [3:28:23, 3:28:24]: I agree, yes, sir. [3:28:24, 3:28:26]: Uh Mr. Thomas, please go ahead. [3:28:27, 3:28:31]: Yes, Mr. Peterson. How are you, sir? Will how are you doing today? Good. Um [3:28:32, 3:28:35]: One of my concerns is in the area. [3:28:36, 3:28:38]: No here um [3:28:38, 3:28:41]: Business retention and business development. [3:28:42, 3:28:43]: And vague. [3:28:44, 3:28:45]: Buildings. [3:28:45, 3:28:46]: Mm-hmm. [3:28:47, 3:28:49]: You know, it it's it's it's a bad look. [3:28:50, 3:28:51]: Uh when we have a lot of vacant. [3:28:52, 3:28:54]: buildings or a lot of businesses. [3:28:55, 3:28:56]: that have gone out of business. [3:28:57, 3:28:59]: And I guess I'm going to get outside of the [3:29:00, 3:29:04]: Main out of the Main Street and the D D A [3:29:04, 3:29:05]: Uh [3:29:05, 3:29:08]: uh boundaries target area because I see [3:29:09, 3:29:12]: Economic development for the city. [3:29:12, 3:29:14]: I sort of see it um [3:29:15, 3:29:16]: Being, you know [3:29:16, 3:29:18]: City wide, if you will. [3:29:18, 3:29:21]: Uh but but just for this conversation. [3:29:22, 3:29:29]: Vacant buildings that are in downtown. And and the reason I say outside of that, and I just ought to bring this to your attention. [3:29:30, 3:29:36]: Um in the North Henry Boulevard one thirty eight corridor. [3:29:37, 3:29:41]: uh what a game stop is and I was up in that area. I'm not sure if you know what that is, but [3:29:42, 3:29:46]: Uh that little plaza there there's so many um [3:29:47, 3:29:48]: Baker. [3:29:48, 3:29:56]: Businesses there. And I I think Alexander, you may be a little familiar, Miss Barber, some of the other council members, but it's so vacant. It's such a bad look. [3:29:57, 3:30:00]: I don't know what we can do, but I would just like to [3:30:01, 3:30:04]: Uh put this uh on the radar. [3:30:04, 3:30:06]: about how some of the um [3:30:07, 3:30:10]: Vacant businesses and building look. [3:30:10, 3:30:13]: I know we had the uh moratorium. [3:30:13, 3:30:16]: Um in in a in a lot of um [3:30:17, 3:30:19]: areas, you know, and I think we had to be careful with [3:30:20, 3:30:22]: Um the kind of business is [3:30:23, 3:30:26]: That at one time we had the moratorium against [3:30:27, 3:30:29]: But if there's these vacant building then [3:30:29, 3:30:32]: There's a vacant building there at [3:30:33, 3:30:36]: Uh North Hunter Boulevard and Flippin'. [3:30:36, 3:30:38]: I think it was an old [3:30:39, 3:30:43]: tire repair place or something. It's been vacant for a while. [3:30:43, 3:30:44]: I think that is um [3:30:45, 3:30:46]: Um [3:30:47, 3:30:51]: It's I I won't I wouldn't call it a prime real estate, but [3:30:51, 3:31:01]: But it is a vacant building that's in the in the uh pretty much is in the downtown Stockbridge. So my concern is that centered around that. I just think there need to be some kind of [3:31:01, 3:31:03]: attention or some kind of effort. [3:31:04, 3:31:05]: to um [3:31:06, 3:31:12]: you know, sort of have some conversation with some businesses and potential owners to look at [3:31:13, 3:31:26]: uh some of the vacant buildings and i think we as a city need to be a little bit more concerned about uh those businesses that have gone out for instance this particular strip mark area that i was talking about [3:31:26, 3:31:27]: I mean [3:31:28, 3:31:36]: Glass front, glass front, glass front, they're all vacant. And I think that's a reflection on the city. But I just wanted to throw that out. I don't know. [3:31:36, 3:31:48]: You know what we can do with that. I just think it needs to be uh on our radar. I think it needs to sort of be in your shop. I think you need to be aware. And I and I'm sure you have sort of [3:31:49, 3:31:52]: Um, you know, Canvas, the city, you know, you [3:31:52, 3:32:02]: been riding around a little bit and I know you probably see a lot of these things, but I just want to bring that to your attention because it it is an indicator when you go to certain cities. [3:32:02, 3:32:07]: And when you ride through those cities and you see a lot of businesses that are closed. [3:32:08, 3:32:11]: It it indicates um, you know, certain things about your city. [3:32:12, 3:32:15]: Um, so I just want to just bring some of those things to your attention. [3:32:15, 3:32:21]: Yes, sir. Thank you, Councilman Thomas. And and I agree. And you you mentioned the moratorium. Um [3:32:22, 3:32:25]: I get calls um [3:32:25, 3:32:26]: Often [3:32:26, 3:32:33]: For people that want to put, you know, smoke and vape shops in the city of Stockbridge. And of course, you know, I speak to Breca about that and [3:32:33, 3:32:35]: We discuss zoning and [3:32:35, 3:32:39]: You know how there's a there's a halt on that for now. Um [3:32:40, 3:32:40]: So [3:32:41, 3:32:52]: I'm glad you mentioned that so people understand the type of businesses that we want to attract in the city of Stockbridge. But to solve that problem, we have to get out and actively recruit. [3:32:53, 3:32:54]: And that's what we've been doing. [3:32:55, 3:32:58]: Uh, you know, speaking with the Henry County Development Authority. [3:32:58, 3:33:00]: Uh Georgia Power. [3:33:00, 3:33:03]: as well. So we we've been doing that. Um [3:33:04, 3:33:07]: But it's it's somewhat difficult because of COVID. [3:33:07, 3:33:08]: But [3:33:08, 3:33:08]: Uh [3:33:09, 3:33:11]: We've we've been meeting with them and and we've been recruiting. [3:33:12, 3:33:13]: So [3:33:13, 3:33:21]: Yeah, and and lastly, and I know you was a part of the this process, it was a survey of some questionnaires and [3:33:21, 3:33:34]: Uh it was one of the listening sessions where we had some citizens and board members and and it might might have been at the uh at the joint meeting and several quite questions was asked about [3:33:34, 3:33:40]: the type of businesses that we wanted to see in the city of Stockbridge and [3:33:40, 3:33:49]: And I'm I know you familiar with that'cause I think you were there, you participated. Yeah, I was there. And it and it sort of indicate, you know, I won't go through that listing. [3:33:50, 3:33:53]: Uh, but I think that is a a telltale. [3:33:53, 3:33:55]: indicator of what [3:33:55, 3:33:59]: Um citizens would like to have because one of the questions [3:33:59, 3:34:03]: Was uh well the result of one of the questions was [3:34:03, 3:34:06]: Citizens have to go out out of Stockbridge. [3:34:07, 3:34:11]: to partake in certain types of business, whether it is [3:34:11, 3:34:27]: dining, entertainment. And I think we I think we saw some of that with the amphitheater and with the cultural art. But you know, folks are still looking for those kind of other uh amenities within the city where they would not have to travel to [3:34:27, 3:34:28]: Um [3:34:28, 3:34:33]: you know, other cities and other counties, even just for for dining, if you will. [3:34:33, 3:34:53]: But dining, entertainment, retail, you know, all of those kind of things. So and I I know you are. I'm just sort of just talking, but I know you are because you and I have had conversations and I know this is on your radar, but just as a a city and the perspective, you know, this is where we're we're trying to go. And uh so as [3:34:53, 3:34:59]: uh mayor pro tem indicated results, but I think a lot of that has to do with effort as well. [3:34:59, 3:35:19]: So um I'm just sort of just um just sort of just talking. I know you are aware of these things and because you and I have talked about it, but I just want to sort of just bring this back into focus um and just just to reiterate, you know, this is our vision, uh, this is our purpose, and you know, these are some of the things that [3:35:19, 3:35:36]: we're trying to achieve. And these are some of our objectives. So I just appreciate you coming in and sort of just jumping on some of these things. And hopefully as time goes by, we will be able to see results of your efforts. [3:35:37, 3:35:39]: Thank you, count thank you, Councilman. And um [3:35:40, 3:35:45]: Restaurants was very high on that list, that survey that was taken at the at the plan. And since then. [3:35:45, 3:35:48]: Uh, we have a membership with ICSC. [3:35:48, 3:35:55]: and uh international council for shopping centers and um through that organization we have a great opportunity to network [3:35:56, 3:36:01]: with uh with restaurants and that was recommended by the Henry County Development Authority. [3:36:01, 3:36:02]: Um it's been [3:36:03, 3:36:05]: you know, difficult now because of COVID. [3:36:06, 3:36:14]: Uh of course they have their online sessions, but when we can get out and go to those conferences and partner with the Henry County Development Authority. [3:36:14, 3:36:17]: And go, we can really uh do some good networking. [3:36:17, 3:36:24]: and and bring some of those restaurants to the city of Stockbridge. So we've already uh began working on [3:36:25, 3:36:30]: on getting some restaurants, not just downtown, but in the in the city as a whole. [3:36:30, 3:36:50]: Yeah, and if you get a chance, um, I'm not sure what's the name of that plaza, Mrs. Johnson. You may have had a chance to frequent as well. But um, I mean, it's just so many uh shops that are just so vacant uh and just a bad look, but it's in that Walmart area. And I don't know what effort we could do to work with the uh owner. [3:36:50, 3:36:57]: who own a lot of those um uh storefronts to see if we can sort of do something and it made him take some [3:36:58, 3:37:02]: um cosmetic for its landscape because it is sort of [3:37:02, 3:37:11]: I won't say it's out of the way, but just being next to Walmart, you'd think that they would be flourishing as well. So I don't know, Mayor, uh do any of y'all know the name of that little plaza there? [3:37:12, 3:37:32]: I can't recall the name of the plaza, but I will say this. I appreciate your comments, uh, Councilman Thomas and the dialogue. But one thing I want to just mention to you, which is which has hit us all, is this pandemic. There are small businesses that went out of went out of business due to this pandemic. And that might be some of the reasons why these places are vacant. Now, obviously they can't stay vacant, we gotta work on it, and I know the staff is [3:37:32, 3:37:37]: gonna do that. But unfortunately, uh that is something that that most likely had occurred. [3:37:37, 3:37:48]: uh in some of these cases there. Um but I can't recall the name of the the the the strip mall but I know what that's what you're talking about. Yeah without a doubt COVID has has an impact on the small businesses without a doubt. [3:37:49, 3:37:53]: Yeah. Um thank you, sir. Miss Johnson, you had your hand raised, ma'am. [3:37:54, 3:37:58]: Uh yes, uh thank you, Mayor and and um [3:37:58, 3:38:02]: Thanks for allowing me to jump in here with with Alan because [3:38:02, 3:38:05]: Our departments were very um very much hand in hand. [3:38:06, 3:38:12]: Um, you know, like like you mentioned about you know having these buildings that haven't been vacated or have been vacated. [3:38:12, 3:38:15]: You know, our code enforcement team is out here. [3:38:15, 3:38:21]: um twice a month doing what's called our our blitz events and they go out [3:38:21, 3:38:27]: and real actually do a physical audit of what is in the strip centers. [3:38:27, 3:38:31]: Do they have their licensing up to date? Do they have the fire alarm? [3:38:31, 3:38:35]: And there uh fire life safety uh annual inspections done. [3:38:35, 3:38:42]: And so part of what we're we're doing to bolster economic development, I say this all the time, we're we're the [3:38:43, 3:38:46]: We're the boots on the ground for econom and economic development. [3:38:46, 3:38:50]: So when Alan does have a project that's coming in. [3:38:51, 3:38:57]: we will see it through from you know inception to you know the CO being issued and they start the operation. [3:38:58, 3:39:00]: Um, we're working with [3:39:00, 3:39:06]: with um Alan on like there's a facade improvement grant that we will be pursuing. [3:39:07, 3:39:12]: um for several businesses that meet certain criteria. So we're in the process of putting that. [3:39:12, 3:39:13]: Rubbish together. [3:39:14, 3:39:19]: Um, to offer some of our business owners some opportunity and some funding sources for. [3:39:19, 3:39:26]: uh improvement so that when these business new business folks are driving down North Henry or 138. [3:39:26, 3:39:30]: Then you know they're saying, okay, the city keeps up their properties. [3:39:30, 3:39:35]: Um their buildings look like they're you know staying in repair. [3:39:35, 3:39:41]: And those are the things that we're we're looking to do. So um we also are putting together a map of [3:39:42, 3:39:49]: Um vacant uh registry. And I know that Mr. Thomas we've talked about this previously with Mr. Mighton. [3:39:49, 3:39:51]: About making sure we [3:39:51, 3:40:04]: address vacant properties, contact those owners and try to get the process moving where Alan comes in of trying to try to get a tenant into that space. So without taking too much of your time, I just wanted to add that if I could. [3:40:05, 3:40:06]: Well, thank you very much. [3:40:06, 3:40:07]: Um [3:40:07, 3:40:10]: Any other comments? Uh yes, sir. Hold on, go ahead. [3:40:11, 3:40:11]: Thank you. [3:40:12, 3:40:12]: Uh [3:40:14, 3:40:16]: Miss Johnson, uh, you spoke about [3:40:17, 3:40:17]: Dm [3:40:18, 3:40:19]: Um [3:40:19, 3:40:21]: The visitations by code enforcement. [3:40:21, 3:40:24]: Is there where where do you all keep the log of [3:40:25, 3:40:32]: what their the businesses or whatever that they're visiting. If we want to inquire about something that w we if we wanted to check [3:40:32, 3:40:35]: as an elected body on a business. [3:40:35, 3:40:39]: Where are those logs kept that code enforcement duty checking on? [3:40:40, 3:40:52]: So um great question, Councilman Bunt. So we keep a log of each of those. So so we'll decide on a plaza, a commercial plaza that we'll go to on a Wednesday. [3:40:53, 3:40:54]: And [3:40:54, 3:41:06]: We'll say we'll go to each of these locations, make sure they have a business license that is current, make sure that they have conducted their annual inspection, make sure that they have no other, no code violations. [3:41:06, 3:41:18]: That information is booked in our in our office. So if there is a notice to comply or a citation to be issued, that goes into our inner gov system. [3:41:19, 3:41:26]: So that is what our code enforcement officers use since I've been on board and subsequently when Nora has been on board. [3:41:26, 3:41:27]: To [3:41:27, 3:41:30]: ensure that we are tracking what we do. [3:41:31, 3:41:41]: Um, and that's we can provide that for you at any time. So you can see what cases are open, which cases we've just entered, and what, you know, just what the status is. [3:41:41, 3:41:43]: So we can most certainly provide that. [3:41:45, 3:41:46]: Okay, thanks. [3:41:47, 3:41:49]: Any other comments from the council? [3:41:50, 3:41:54]: Yes, sir. One one last. So Mr. Peterson with [3:41:55, 3:41:58]: The asset that this city has invested in, which is the amphitheater. [3:41:58, 3:42:04]: Oh are you using that for tours or how many are you using it for tours or how many tours have you set up? [3:42:05, 3:42:10]: Uh we've we set a tour up with Georgia Power. Uh right now. [3:42:10, 3:42:29]: A lot of the uh a lot of the business owners are still, you know, a little on the edge because of COVID for a tour. Hopefully that'll ease up soon. But you know, whenever we talk to two prospective business owners or business owners that want to relocate their business, uh here at Stockbridge, we always discuss the amphitheater. [3:42:30, 3:42:31]: Always um [3:42:31, 3:42:32]: And uh [3:42:33, 3:42:33]: The [3:42:33, 3:42:38]: The plan for Main Street and the DDA is to capitalize off the amphitheater. [3:42:38, 3:42:41]: So that's the uh that's the economic development staple right now. [3:42:42, 3:42:42]: So [3:42:43, 3:43:02]: I would advise y'all to set up regular tours because it is the biggest attraction that we have. I've had several tours myself and they always lead to individuals being very interested who I forward over to uh the city. You gotta use your biggest asset and people are interested in it. I would [3:43:02, 3:43:05]: Strongly encouraged the staff to look at [3:43:05, 3:43:08]: Setting up regular tours in the downtown in [3:43:08, 3:43:11]: Throughout the city, and you know, take somebody over to [3:43:11, 3:43:14]: Uh different venues like bridges at Jodico. [3:43:14, 3:43:16]: Eagles landing area. [3:43:17, 3:43:19]: How we one thirty eight, you know how [3:43:19, 3:43:25]: Uh I seventy five has a hundred and seventy forty thousand cars driving down there every single day. [3:43:25, 3:43:27]: There is no reason that we should have [3:43:28, 3:43:31]: Uh, you know that we have a great asset and we need [3:43:31, 3:43:34]: New businesses in that uh in that in those areas. [3:43:35, 3:43:38]: And along those corridors and we need you working on that every single day. [3:43:39, 3:43:40]: We gotta get some results. [3:43:43, 3:43:44]: uh mayor. [3:43:44, 3:43:45]: Yes, sir. Go right in, please. [3:43:46, 3:43:48]: Yeah, just real quick, that plaza [3:43:49, 3:43:55]: that was being discussed over by uh on one thirty eight over by Walmart. I spoke to [3:43:55, 3:44:01]: Um, Mr. Knighton about it, uh the former economic of the former uh community development director and I've [3:44:01, 3:44:03]: And even at the time, um [3:44:03, 3:44:04]: Former uh [3:44:05, 3:44:06]: Wow. [3:44:06, 3:44:08]: City manager, uh, Michael Harris. [3:44:08, 3:44:16]: When you come through anywhere, uh, when we drive out anywhere and and a lot of people that visit Stockbridge or [3:44:16, 3:44:18]: or any area and drive through there. [3:44:18, 3:44:33]: There's no scene scene to show those businesses because on the side of Walmart those trees are up and you don't even know if prizes over there unless you pull into the parking lot. So that's you know, you got Catos, you got a you know, you got businesses over there. [3:44:33, 3:44:37]: But there's but those trees that are separating [3:44:38, 3:44:41]: a boundary between Walmart and that plaza. [3:44:41, 3:44:43]: There's no scenery to show [3:44:43, 3:44:48]: that plaza and so uh I've asked if they would talk to [3:44:48, 3:44:51]: someone would speak with Walmart or whoever and [3:44:52, 3:44:53]: See if we can move forward with them. [3:44:54, 3:45:01]: uh putting bushes there, even if they have to be replaced, putting bushes there are doing something that would change that scenery where people [3:45:01, 3:45:04]: When they drive down they can see that it's restaurants up there that's [3:45:04, 3:45:07]: other shopping areas up there. But other than that [3:45:07, 3:45:10]: When you drive through there, you don't even know that plaza's back there. [3:45:11, 3:45:12]: If you're heading toward the interstate. [3:45:15, 3:45:15]: Okay, thank you. [3:45:16, 3:45:19]: Any other comments from the council from Mr. Peterson? [3:45:21, 3:45:22]: Or Miss Johnson. [3:45:24, 3:45:25]: Okay. [3:45:25, 3:45:29]: Thank you, Mr. Peterson, Ms. Johnson, and uh Ms. Braggs. [3:45:30, 3:45:31]: You're next man for your briefing. [3:45:32, 3:45:33]: Yes, sir. [3:45:33, 3:45:45]: Good afternoon, Mayor, Council, staff members, and viewers in the community. Again, I'm Ciara Harris Braggs and I'm the Stockbridge Main Street Program Manager. [3:45:45, 3:45:48]: And I'm here to discuss Main Street programs. [3:45:49, 3:45:53]: proposed budget and our sp prospective projects for the next fiscal year. [3:45:54, 3:45:56]: And if I might, um [3:45:56, 3:45:58]: Be allowed to share my screen. [3:45:59, 3:46:00]: Let's see. [3:46:01, 3:46:02]: I'll pull up my presentation. [3:46:06, 3:46:07]: [13570.8, 13573.8]: The new look, okay. [3:46:15, 3:46:20]: You weren't expecting Beyonce today. No, no, it wasn't. [3:46:23, 3:46:24]: Okay. [3:46:26, 3:46:28]: Again, um the main street [3:46:28, 3:46:33]: programs proposed budget and prospective projects for fiscal year. [3:46:33, 3:46:35]: Um F Watt 2022. [3:46:39, 3:46:45]: We want everyone to know that um here in Stockbridge, the Stockbridge Main Street program's mission. [3:46:45, 3:46:49]: Is to design and support an identifiable downtown historic district. [3:46:50, 3:46:52]: That promotes economic vitality. [3:46:52, 3:46:54]: Кутивається артистик expression. [3:46:54, 3:46:56]: Encourages cultural enrichment. [3:46:57, 3:46:59]: And nurtures a community spirit. [3:47:03, 3:47:10]: The Starkbridge Main Street program staff and the Main Street Advisory Board has been quite busy in 2021. [3:47:10, 3:47:13]: Um, despite the impact of ковід найти. [3:47:13, 3:47:14]: Um [3:47:15, 3:47:23]: And then despite the impact that it has had on the city, the state, and the nation, we have been able to work diligently and work hard. [3:47:25, 3:47:33]: Despite pandemic limitations, we were able to launch our downtown public arts program with our first downtown mural. [3:47:33, 3:47:36]: Host a DDA Main Street joint planning session. [3:47:36, 3:47:42]: Keep small business owners informed about COVID nineteen and pandemic aid and resources. [3:47:43, 3:47:45]: Continue with small business training and promotion. [3:47:46, 3:47:48]: Аланг в астве [3:47:49, 3:47:55]: Um virtual promotions, including our small business Saturday campaign, which was done virtually last year. [3:47:57, 3:48:01]: But most importantly, we have been able to continually maintain and cultivate. [3:48:01, 3:48:03]: New community partnerships. [3:48:03, 3:48:10]: These community partnerships have yielded opportunities for our citizens, business owners, and visitors alike. [3:48:11, 3:48:16]: Main Street actively seeks to develop programming, create engagement activities. [3:48:16, 3:48:20]: and cultivate mutually beneficial partnership with both corporate [3:48:20, 3:48:22]: And community organizations [3:48:22, 3:48:26]: And furtherance of the vision of Stockridge's downtown area. [3:48:28, 3:48:32]: As I get ready to discuss our proposed FY twenty twenty two budget. [3:48:32, 3:48:36]: I want to definitely mention that the Stockbridge Main Street program. [3:48:36, 3:48:42]: Has again received both its national and statewide accreditation for twenty twenty one. [3:48:43, 3:48:49]: Also, this year I'm proud to say that both members of the Main Street staff earned their Georgia Downtown Development. [3:48:49, 3:48:55]: professional designations and we were both honored at the 2021 Georgia Downtown Conference. [3:48:55, 3:48:56]: Fouse down. [3:48:57, 3:49:05]: Thank you. So now we're gonna get to the numbers. Um, you all should have a copy of our proposed FY 2022 budget. [3:49:06, 3:49:13]: Like so many of the other Main Street programs across the country this year, we had to cancel many of our planned activities and events. [3:49:14, 3:49:27]: Due to COVID-19. So because of this, we plan to come back stronger in 2022 and are basically requesting pretty much the same budget that was approved for us last year with just a few adjustments. [3:49:29, 3:49:38]: As mentioned previously, Main Street staff has met its 2021 benchmarks, earned their Georgia Downtown Development Professional designations. [3:49:38, 3:49:42]: And through their work, have increased interest in downtown Stockbridge. [3:49:42, 3:49:49]: I would like to request a 5% increase in our line item for staff salaries going into the new fiscal year. [3:49:49, 3:49:55]: And that total increase would be five thousand seven hundred fifty-five dollars and twenty-five cents. [3:49:57, 3:50:00]: Um, next I will look at tech and telecom. [3:50:01, 3:50:09]: There are three areas where funding was not needed in FY 2021, but will be requested in FY 2020. [3:50:10, 3:50:16]: This is um in the area of cell phones, telecommunications, um, because we've had to [3:50:16, 3:50:23]: Um cover a lot of our meetings with Zoom and teleconferencing. That was a expense that wasn't contemplated before. [3:50:23, 3:50:27]: And then um computer expense of two thousand dollars. [3:50:27, 3:50:35]: So that's a total of$3,200 that will be included in this year's budget or requested for this year's budget. [3:50:36, 3:50:42]: Another area of um difference is the Main Street Advisory Board change training. [3:50:43, 3:50:51]: Um, as you all know, the Georgia Office of Downtown Development has a very robust offering of training and technical assistance. [3:50:51, 3:50:55]: Some of you all have attended um these sessions even recently. [3:50:55, 3:51:00]: I would like to increase the amount available for board travel to ensure that. [3:51:00, 3:51:03]: Етліст еврій борд офісер. [3:51:03, 3:51:07]: Will be able to attend the Georgia downtown conference next year. [3:51:07, 3:51:13]: So this will require an increase of three thousand dollars in that item, line item. [3:51:15, 3:51:21]: Main Street staff is also looking forward to moving into our new offices in the repurposed Ted Strickland building. [3:51:22, 3:51:29]: With this move and alleyway project completion, we are also looking forward to increasing our um programming. [3:51:30, 3:51:43]: This will require an increase in the areas that pay for our activities. Grant expenses,$5,000, which we're looking to have in place for matching funds. [3:51:43, 3:51:46]: Hospitality food and beverage will be increased. [3:51:47, 3:51:52]: I'm by two thousand dollars for more community engagement with the alleyway activation. [3:51:52, 3:51:54]: Um increased [3:51:54, 3:52:03]: Um,$8,000 for entertainment, that is increased by$3,000. Again, that would be associated with our alleyway activation plans. [3:52:04, 3:52:19]: Promotional supplies increased by a thousand dollars. As you can see, we have a new look in Main Street with regard to our logo. And we need to um replenish some of our promotional items and um [3:52:19, 3:52:23]: Um create some new signage that has our old logo. [3:52:23, 3:52:31]: We'd also like to increase um uniforms by eight hundred dollars because we'd also like to get our board. [3:52:31, 3:52:32]: Um [3:52:32, 3:52:33]: Shirts. [3:52:34, 3:52:45]: As far as uniforms are concerned, um staff will also be getting some additional shirts with our new logo and then name badges for everyone associated with the Main Street program. [3:52:45, 3:52:50]: So that would be a total increase of eleven thousand eight hundred dollars. [3:52:50, 3:52:53]: For a total of twenty five thousand two hundred dollars. [3:52:55, 3:53:01]: In addition, um three hundred and fifty thousand dollars was allotted this fiscal year for. [3:53:01, 3:53:05]: The alleyway project will need to continue over that. [3:53:05, 3:53:11]: those monies over to FY 2022 if the project is come not completed by the end of the year. [3:53:12, 3:53:19]: Um, seventy-five thousand dollars has been allocated for the Breezeway project, which is phase two of the alleyway project. [3:53:20, 3:53:25]: So that um funding also needs to be considered by mayor and council. [3:53:25, 3:53:27]: with regard to FY twenty twenty two. [3:53:28, 3:53:32]: Finally, we request an additional twenty thousand dollars. [3:53:32, 3:53:39]: in FY twenty twenty two for downtown beautification along Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [3:53:39, 3:53:54]: This would be associated with the completion of the Breezeway project, purchasing furniture and other amenities needed for the continuation and successful completion of that breezeway project. [3:53:57, 3:54:06]: Also, we're looking at um public art. Um, if you will recall, last summer we actually provided a [3:54:06, 3:54:06]: Um [3:54:07, 3:54:09]: presentation to our [3:54:09, 3:54:12]: Mayor and council with regard to public art. [3:54:13, 3:54:20]: And we introduced the concept, the Stockbridge Letters, which is a uh statuary, if you will. Um [3:54:21, 3:54:25]: And uh we are still interested in pursuing that particular project. [3:54:25, 3:54:31]: If you'll recall, this is a bird's eye view of proposed locations for that particular sculpture. [3:54:32, 3:54:36]: Site A being um visible when crossing the bridge near the fountain. [3:54:37, 3:54:42]: And then also site B, which is um located near City Hall and with [3:54:42, 3:54:44]: The new амфітіатр інплей. [3:54:44, 3:54:50]: This will be definitely um a very interesting and um attractive. [3:54:50, 3:54:52]: Amenity to add to our [3:54:52, 3:54:54]: Downtown footprint. [3:54:55, 3:55:14]: In addition, the Love Street Mural is still on our book with regard to priorities. And you all heard from Mr. Peterson with regard to our plans for connectivity in the downtown area. So this Love Street Mural is still something that we would like to complete. [3:55:15, 3:55:27]: And um that's all that I have right now with regard to our um plans for future projects with Main Street. If you have any questions, I would like to entertain those now. [3:55:29, 3:55:36]: Appreciate your briefing, uh, Ms. Braggs. It's very, very thorough in this aspect and in that aspect. So anyway, uh council, questions for Ms. Braggs here. [3:55:40, 3:55:40]: Anybody? [3:55:41, 3:55:44]: Mr. Thomas, you're on the main street. Do you want to make any comments, sir? [3:55:48, 3:55:52]: Well, um, as usual, uh I'm always bragging on uh [3:55:52, 3:56:04]: the Main Street program and uh the board members itself because you know we are um you know pretty active in and you know we do work. Um I I [3:56:05, 3:56:12]: Um I know you know we are proposing uh an increase in in that budget. Um [3:56:15, 3:56:18]: I I I do favor that because they they are worthy. [3:56:19, 3:56:22]: Um I I do have some other comments, but um [3:56:24, 3:56:27]: I I guess I'm gonna hold those comments for a while. [3:56:27, 3:56:30]: And the reason I'm I'm a little hesitant and reluctant. [3:56:31, 3:56:34]: Um, you know, there's been some conversation about [3:56:35, 3:56:55]: uh you know the overall budget and i'm still actually reading that and i just want to be consistent in in in in my comments about the budget even when it comes to the governing body uh as well as the main street program because i do sit on that board so whatever comments i have about the overall budget and i know [3:56:55, 3:57:00]: we go through a budget cycle. There are several readings. Um [3:57:01, 3:57:05]: But I I'll just reserve uh my additional comment, but I do wanna [3:57:06, 3:57:10]: Um, you know, give kudos to to the Main Street program. [3:57:10, 3:57:16]: and the advisory board. And one thing that I can always say about the Main Street program. [3:57:17, 3:57:20]: And and some of the conversation we just had even with economic development. [3:57:21, 3:57:21]: Um [3:57:22, 3:57:27]: That is an effort, and it and it is a a major effort. [3:57:27, 3:57:31]: to bring people into uh downtown. [3:57:31, 3:57:34]: And so with the uh welcoming center being [3:57:35, 3:57:37]: in a heart of downtown and I just know [3:57:38, 3:57:44]: that uh the staff and and Mr. Peterson, I'm I'm assuming you'll be housing that facility as well. [3:57:45, 3:57:48]: So you know, you know, we will be right in the middle of downtown. [3:57:49, 3:57:53]: And I know we'll be hands on, you know, right there in in the community. [3:57:54, 3:58:10]: But with the uh, as I call the twin towers, so having the amphitheater and in the future having the cultural art facility, which is gonna, you know, give uh additional parking as well at at the uh cultural art. But I foresee. [3:58:10, 3:58:11]: Um [3:58:12, 3:58:14]: A lot of foot traffic. [3:58:14, 3:58:23]: uh in the downtown area and and that's the thing that really has me excited about bringing folks into downtown and that is going to spur [3:58:24, 3:58:28]: um, you know, business development in the downtown area. [3:58:28, 3:58:32]: So one thing is just gonna affect go ha well, it's gonna impact the other. [3:58:33, 3:58:35]: So I I do know that, you know, um [3:58:35, 3:58:38]: The Main Street board is is a working board. [3:58:39, 3:58:50]: Um uh Ms. Braggs and uh uh Lisa, you know, they're working. So I know everything is justified, you know, for what they asked for. And I think all of you all know as well. [3:58:50, 3:58:52]: uh that these folks were. [3:58:52, 3:58:55]: And uh and they just need the tools. [3:58:55, 3:58:57]: uh to continue [3:58:57, 3:59:00]: uh you know what we do um [3:59:00, 3:59:02]: for downtown and so [3:59:02, 3:59:08]: I I do have some other comments, but I'll that just relates to the budget, not the Main Street program itself. [3:59:08, 3:59:15]: but just to uh budget and I I just reserve sort of to hold those uh until a later time. [3:59:15, 3:59:18]: Uh,'cause there are some some [3:59:18, 3:59:23]: discussions that I think the council will have about budget. And I know that [3:59:23, 3:59:43]: pretty much all departments will be asking for uh increases in in different areas. Um so that will be just uh conversation that has to do with just budget, not necessarily programs, but you know, budget. And I know this is a budget hearing, well budget retreat, but that will also be budget hearings. [3:59:43, 3:59:46]: So I will reserve some of those comments for the budget. [3:59:47, 3:59:47]: Hearing [3:59:48, 3:59:49]: Thank you. [3:59:49, 3:59:52]: Okay, no problem. You're welcome. And uh any other comments from the council? [3:59:56, 4:00:07]: Anybody else? All right. Ms. Brads, thank thanks a lot for your presentation. We appreciate it. I think Ms. Barber Councilwoman Barber was trying to Okay, I didn't see her. Okay, go ahead, Miss Barber. [4:00:10, 4:00:11]: Thank you, Mira. [4:00:11, 4:00:19]: Uh thank you, Ms. Braggs. Um really good presentation presentation. I was um very impressed with the public. [4:00:20, 4:00:21]: Artwork. [4:00:22, 4:00:23]: Yes, ma'am. [4:00:23, 4:00:27]: Can you tell me a little bit more about it? I don't remember. [4:00:27, 4:00:28]: Uh discussing it. [4:00:29, 4:00:40]: Okay, um with regard to um our public art program, as you know, we um started or kicked off this particular downtown project with our first mural. [4:00:40, 4:00:49]: Uh, which is the Harel Street Mural. Um, you were at our opening and ribbon cutting. Thank you so much for unveiling and ribbon cutting. Thank you for being there for that. [4:00:49, 4:01:09]: Um, but that is the first in what we're hoping to be three to five murals that will be placed in our downtown area within the next three to five years. Um, in addition, um, as you saw from my presentation, there was a um sculpture of the Stockbridge letters. Um, those are akin to the type of letters that [4:01:09, 4:01:12]: Um they have the big ATL downtown. [4:01:12, 4:01:15]: Also the letters Atlanta. [4:01:15, 4:01:24]: at the um State Farm Arena. So that kind of gives you an idea of what we are envisioning for our downtown as a centerpiece sculpture. [4:01:25, 4:01:31]: In addition, uh we have a tourism product development committee that has been established through our work plan development. [4:01:31, 4:01:34]: That we'll be looking at other um public art. [4:01:35, 4:01:38]: um projects that would be a good addition or um um [4:01:38, 4:01:41]: A welcomed edition in our downtown area. [4:01:42, 4:01:46]: So that would be another area that we are um requesting that. [4:01:46, 4:01:50]: twenty eight thousand dollars additional um funding for [4:01:50, 4:01:52]: The downtown public arts project. [4:01:52, 4:01:55]: And then also, as I mentioned, the love street. [4:01:56, 4:01:56]: Um [4:01:57, 4:02:05]: Um, mural, which is a street mural that's actually painted on the street. That was articulated first in our RSVP planning. [4:02:05, 4:02:08]: And will be a part of our connectivity plans. [4:02:08, 4:02:11]: Фром в амфітер то дантон. [4:02:11, 4:02:14]: over to the cultural arts and [4:02:16, 4:02:16]: Good deal. [4:02:17, 4:02:19]: All right, any other questions from the council? [4:02:21, 4:02:26]: All right. Thank you very much. And uh Mayor Ford? Yes, ma'am. [4:02:26, 4:02:41]: I did have a question and I'm not sure if it is would be directed to um Mr. Knighton or Mr. Wiggins with regard to those particular items. I need to know where those requests need to be placed as far as funding is concerned. [4:02:42, 4:02:44]: Again, that was the twenty thousand dollars. [4:02:44, 4:02:46]: For downtown beautification. [4:02:46, 4:02:48]: That is in um [4:02:48, 4:02:56]: reference to our alleyway activation and then also with regard to our public arts project, our seed money. [4:02:56, 4:03:02]: Um that twenty eight thousand dollars I will also need to know where that request needs to fall as well. [4:03:05, 4:03:07]: Uh Mr. Knight and Mr. Wiggins, go ahead, please. [4:03:10, 4:03:11]: Well I think um [4:03:12, 4:03:15]: Those other two pieces that you you asked about, um [4:03:17, 4:03:25]: Um that additional for the alleyway, I think we can put the, I think, because we where we have it is in the uh CIP. So [4:03:26, 4:03:36]: If it's an additional for the uh for that breeze weight, I think they need to go in the um the CIP. Um the downtown beautification. [4:03:37, 4:03:41]: Um I can't remember how much that was. [4:03:41, 4:03:49]: That was a twenty thousand dollar request. That might be something that can just be put in your uh in your uh operation. [4:03:50, 4:03:53]: Okay. I didn't have a line item in the um [4:03:54, 4:04:06]: current budget. So um is that something that just needs to be added and then I put these two it was it the 20,000 is for downtown beautification and the 28,000 is for downtown public arts. [4:04:06, 4:04:11]: Um, so would two line items be uh added to my budget or would that be a separate budget? [4:04:13, 4:04:16]: No, we'll just add those lines to your budget. I I I can um [4:04:17, 4:04:21]: go through the uniform chart of accounts and find find an account number for it. [4:04:22, 4:04:27]: Okay. All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate um your answer to my question and [4:04:28, 4:04:31]: Um, thank you for allowing me to present. [4:04:31, 4:04:32]: Our plans [4:04:32, 4:04:33]: To you all. [4:04:34, 4:04:35]: I'm probably welcome. [4:04:35, 4:04:40]: All right. If no more comments, Mr. Knighton, back to you for our next presentation, sir. [4:04:40, 4:04:47]: Yes, thank you, Mayor. Mayor Ford, I just I I wanted to let Miss Brax know. Excellent presentation. Oh thank you. [4:04:47, 4:04:48]: Thank you. [4:04:48, 4:04:48]: All right. [4:04:50, 4:04:54]: Yes, uh yes, Mayor. Uh yes, next up is um [4:04:54, 4:05:00]: IT we have Ashley Smith here. I don't know who else he has for Ms. Team, but uh Ashley Smith with [4:05:00, 4:05:03]: Uh inner dev is here to present the uh [4:05:03, 4:05:05]: Proposed twenty twenty two. [4:05:05, 4:05:06]: IT budget. [4:05:06, 4:05:08]: All right. Great. Mrs. Smith, welcome. [4:05:08, 4:05:12]: I know he does have a presentation, so he will need to share screen, I believe. [4:05:12, 4:05:13]: Okay. [4:05:13, 4:05:13]: Yes. [4:05:18, 4:05:19]: All right. [4:05:19, 4:05:20]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. [4:05:21, 4:05:23]: Uh, for allowing me to be here today to present. [4:05:23, 4:05:24]: Um [4:05:24, 4:05:29]: gonna go over quick highlights of what we have done in the last year for IT and then [4:05:29, 4:05:31]: jump into the budget. Um [4:05:31, 4:05:35]: And some of the projects that we have on tap for uh twenty twenty two. [4:05:38, 4:05:40]: So hopefully you all can see the screen pop up. [4:05:41, 4:05:43]: And the presentation going. We can't so [4:05:45, 4:06:00]: Just want to kind of review the team that's uh currently supporting uh Stockbridge. Um you have myself, but then you have Robert Bonds, who is our uh site engineer or team lead. Um Jesse Kale, who's our um security engineer assigned to the contract. Um you [4:06:00, 4:06:20]: Team really doesn't uh interact with Jesse that much as far as uh stockbridge people. He's just making sure that you guys are secure and um that nothing bad is going on on the network or uh with any of your data. Um we have Nathan Holders, who is your account manager, and uh Britton Wilson, who is our service delivery manager, and he makes sure that tickets are being followed and responded. [4:06:20, 4:06:21]: Appropriately. [4:06:23, 4:06:24]: Um [4:06:25, 4:06:38]: Just a little bit, just a reminder about Interdev. We've been around since 1980 and we've been supporting you all for the last few years and have had the pleasure really working with your staff there and um have enjoyed the working relationship that we've had um over that time. [4:06:41, 4:06:54]: The the goals and uh that we've set set for Stockbridge um over the last couple of years are to create a stable and progressive environment, um, security environment, which has actually become even bigger in the last year. [4:06:55, 4:06:56]: Um foster environment for innovation. [4:06:57, 4:07:03]: and improve uh technol uh implement technology that improves the efficiency and effectiveness of the city. [4:07:03, 4:07:04]: Um [4:07:05, 4:07:25]: As we've kind of gone over the last couple of years, uh, the city's made a sizable uh investment in uh creating a stable environment, has done a really good job at doing that. Um as of right now, we can see for the next few years there are no major capital purchases for new hardware or anything of that nature on the back end systems because of the investments we've made over the last two to three years. [4:07:25, 4:07:26]: Um so [4:07:27, 4:07:47]: Um the next steps that we've been taking are securing the environment. And um over the next year, we're actually the next few months, uh, we'll be actually working on revamping uh the T the city's uh um technology uh plan for the next two to three years. Um so that will involve us sending out a management survey uh with uh [4:07:47, 4:07:55]: So the help of the city manager and getting input from staff on the roadmap that the city needs to go to for the next three to four years when it comes to IT. [4:07:56, 4:07:56]: Um [4:07:59, 4:08:03]: Going back through some of our accomplishments for this current year, uh [4:08:03, 4:08:23]: Just want to touch on these briefly, some of our uh metrics that we have. Um, total tickets to date have been 864 that have been submitted. Our average uh closure rate is about what uh every three hours for a ticket coming in. Average response rate is about 90 minutes. Um, now that is skewed a little bit because of the fact that we do have automated tickets that come. [4:08:23, 4:08:43]: in so uh you get tons of those throughout the day just for services and things coming in. So on actual incident requests, our normal response time is about uh 45 minutes to to 60 minutes on um getting somebody to look at a ticket. Uh data backup rate um success rate is 99.9%. Um [4:08:43, 4:09:02]: And that's important on there that that doesn't just include on-premise backup, it also includes the cloud as well. So that includes, you know, we have almost 100% backup rate to the cloud and locally. So your data is secured in multiple locations. Um, and also very secure in the cloud encrypted by hosted center. [4:09:03, 4:09:14]: Um total system uptime is 99.9%. And we've had no security breaches or anything within the last year, actually the last two to three years. There hasn't been one since we've been on the contract actually. [4:09:14, 4:09:21]: Um doesn't mean you haven't gotten some spam email, but we are gonna address that actually with one of our projects that we have uh coming up. [4:09:25, 4:09:45]: So the next thing to note is that um just working with city management and city treasury, we've done a staff and uh your staff has done an awesome job at being able to get rid of pretty much almost all in-the-life hardware um that's been out there. That was a big push and uh it's actually improved your security footprint a lot because you've closed the doors on um people uh getting exposed to things. [4:09:45, 4:09:58]: I have old equipment. Um, you know, one of the other things is is uh finishing up the new public works building, which we have the equipment in and we're actually uh working on that this week and next week. Um the amphitheater tying up some uh pieces there on the network. [4:09:58, 4:10:07]: And then um your data backup. Uh, we've done a good job of consolidating the amount of data that you guys have to make it easier for us to, if you were to have. [4:10:07, 4:10:20]: um any type of dis disaster, um cyber cybersecurity issue where data's corrupted, we can get you guys back up and running as fast as humanly possible. Um and that's very important on the backups simply because [4:10:20, 4:10:23]: In most cases, you know, if you do get um [4:10:23, 4:10:25]: And hit with ransomware or something. [4:10:26, 4:10:36]: you're not gonna wanna pay pay the uh the million or two million dollar ransom. You're gonna wanna just say, hey, let's scrap everything and just restore from our last backups to save yourself the money and the headache. [4:10:37, 4:10:48]: Um and then we upgraded we're uh just finished upgrading your antivirus to Sentinel One, um, which does bring up something that will be in this 2022 because um [4:10:49, 4:11:09]: The requirements for state uh for uh local governments when it comes to cybersecurity live uh liability insurance, when it comes to sieges and some other things, and with you all having a police department on on the roadmap for next year, um that was a really big move to get in front of all that because they now require you to have a solution like [4:11:09, 4:11:14]: Simplement one, which is called um an EDR. It's an endpoint detection response. So basically, [4:11:15, 4:11:31]: it tells you when you've gotten breached and is proactive and isolates it. So it doesn't spread. You guys were ahead of the curve on that and actually had it in before it actually gets um before one before you start the police department, which is great. And then also before you have you get hit with that with your uh your insurance requirements. [4:11:34, 4:11:34]: So [4:11:36, 4:11:56]: Going forward for 2022, we really want to uh focus on the goal of securing the environment. So we have a focus on doing um a number of security projects uh for this upcoming year. And one thing that everybody saw with COVID was that being able to get off site and work quickly was was a big thing. And even still. [4:11:56, 4:12:16]: with we've noticed with number of our clients that are still having to shut down, open up, and have people remote for a decent amount of time, um, that being agile and being able to do that, but do it securely is the the big thing that we need to worry about because it's one thing giving your employees the ability to work off site, but it's another thing being to make sure that they are secure and that they're [4:12:16, 4:12:18]: There's nothing that uh that's gonna breach your environment. So [4:12:19, 4:12:21]: For this upcoming year, what we're looking at is [4:12:22, 4:12:27]: taking on a couple projects. One is going to be multi-factor authentication. [4:12:27, 4:12:42]: Um that is for anybody who accesses the city's network remotely and email remotely. So there'll be a change in how um the city does uh um remote work, but it's a necessary change actually for the insurance things that we've seen. Um [4:12:43, 4:13:03]: I literally just had a call with traveler's insurance two days ago and uh it is now a requirement to have it in within the first six months of a new um insurance policy. And I think I'm working with one city who has a Gurma policy or two that have Gurma policies that are actually having to do the same thing. Um so that is basically going to be installing it. [4:13:03, 4:13:16]: application that if you are working remotely and you log into the city systems, you not only have to enter your username and password, but you also have to do like you would have to at your bank. You get a prompt through an application on your phone. [4:13:16, 4:13:21]: Um or if you have a key fob and you have to enter in a code or you get a push notification on your phone. [4:13:21, 4:13:23]: And you click allow. [4:13:23, 4:13:27]: That alleviates that if your password is compromised and somebody tries to get into your account. [4:13:27, 4:13:28]: They can't. [4:13:28, 4:13:31]: Um because there's that extra layer. So [4:13:31, 4:13:33]: Um it that does me [4:13:34, 4:13:36]: pretty much anything you would need to do for um [4:13:37, 4:13:45]: For those insurance requirements, but also for CGIS. As you stand up a new police department, um, the two-factor is actually something that they need for any uh [4:13:45, 4:13:48]: Any person accessing uh [4:13:48, 4:14:03]: any laptop or tablet or any computer that cannot be guaranteed behind be behind a secure door are locked at all times. So that includes police vehicles, unless you absolutely do not take the uh the um the laptop out. [4:14:03, 4:14:06]: Um the next thing we want to do is implement dark web monitoring. [4:14:07, 4:14:27]: Uh that's good because if any credentials in the city actually do get leaked out on the dark web, we can um we can see that. We'll get alerted at it real time, and then we'll be able to shut the accounts down and make sure that um nobody can actually access them. And the other thing that it allows us to do is that anything that's ever been leaked on the dark web for the city of Stockbridge. [4:14:27, 4:14:43]: Or if a city of Stockbridge email account has been used anywhere, we can actually run reports and get reports monthly to make sure that the city's emails and various accounts that are up stay secure. [4:14:43, 4:14:47]: We've seen that actually be one of the biggest things within the last year that's proven to be really good. [4:14:47, 4:15:07]: Um next thing is like I mentioned with the email, we do want to upgrade your email uh for security protection. Uh right now you have the standard protection and we want to um upgrade you to the um complete with uh phishing uh protection. And what that does is that as you guys have probably seen, and it's gotten a lot worse since um last spring. [4:15:07, 4:15:27]: uh definitely with with everyone working remotely with coven now and everything like that um a lot of phishing attacks for email have gotten a lot more sophisticated within the last year so you'll see people's emails being masked um you'll see somebody with it it looks like it's coming from a city account but it's actually from a gmail account um or an outlook account or something [4:15:27, 4:15:35]: Something like that. And they seem to be very persistent. Well, this upgrade will allow us to be able to pick up the patterns of those emails coming in. [4:15:35, 4:15:46]: kind of the um language and it does some advanced uh forensic work behind it that will stop those emails from getting into you guys and limits the uh chance of anybody clicking on a bad link. [4:15:46, 4:15:50]: And filling um any information out, or perhaps even. [4:15:50, 4:15:53]: starting a um a virus to download or anything. [4:15:54, 4:16:14]: Um the beam vacuum replication, that's um something that we are now working in, um putting putting the initial piece in. There's no additional actually cost for next year on that one. It's a project that um we are we're still currently working on that will go into that, but that's largely part of knowing that you're expanding to a police department, we're going to spread the data. [4:16:14, 4:16:18]: data out from just City Hall, um, have uh a backup site at [4:16:19, 4:16:25]: not only um public works but also at the new police department and uh give you guys some extra redundancy. [4:16:25, 4:16:27]: Um so if something were to happen at [4:16:28, 4:16:44]: um city hall, you could operate from either public works or from the police department and not have to worry about being in a secure or being able to access your data. The next thing that we're looking at are two buildings projects, the new police department and then the Ted Strickham building as well. [4:16:45, 4:16:45]: Um [4:16:47, 4:16:49]: So budget wise, what does this look like? [4:16:50, 4:16:50]: Um [4:16:51, 4:17:00]: Well, there are a couple of things just to kind of consider in this. Uh last year we actually had uh put a request in for an increase on the IT support contract. [4:17:01, 4:17:06]: And we put the stipulation is that we wouldn't charge any additional amount until you all needed the additional resources. [4:17:06, 4:17:07]: For that. [4:17:07, 4:17:08]: Um and [4:17:09, 4:17:29]: We didn't. And your cost is less than what we had budgeted actually for this year. We're asking to keep the same amount that we submitted in last year just because the amphitheater opening up as well as the police department. And what we look think is is that on top of who you currently have, Robert, um, and then the two-day two days a week, we were looking at an additional employee to come on site. [4:17:29, 4:17:41]: To support the police department because I think you guys were looking at around 50 semi- uh police or uh patrolled and um are just in total employees for the city. [4:17:41, 4:17:56]: and um halftime of senior network engineer um because of pulling on the amphitheater and the police department the additional person to focus on police and court um and then having Robert there to help with the other departments along with police um [4:17:56, 4:18:08]: and the half of the engineer. We feel that's good. And it actually is about what we put in there to re need anyway for last year. Um so we're we're confident that that um just carrying that over will um [4:18:08, 4:18:12]: uh help us, you know, get where you need to be to service the police. [4:18:12, 4:18:19]: The security items are budgeted in place, like I said, largely due to cybersecurity liability insurance that we're seeing across the board. [4:18:20, 4:18:20]: Um [4:18:21, 4:18:37]: And then also your CGIS requirements kind of ramping up for the police department. Um, some of those things, you know, they are their services, so they don't start until we actually put them in. So billing for those things don't happen until the city actually signs up for the service. Um [4:18:38, 4:18:41]: So what does this look like dollars wise? [4:18:41, 4:18:42]: Uh [4:18:43, 4:18:53]: The new items that I just kind of want to highlight are in yellow. Um, everything else that you see here is pretty much exactly like how it was last year, with exception of the Office 365. [4:18:53, 4:19:13]: Um there's an increase because we estimate it for six months of the year having um additional staff for the police department, the same thing for antivirus and the same thing for your uh your patching software. Um the new items that you have in place uh as far as the huntress active threat monitoring, uh [4:19:13, 4:19:23]: That is actually a solution that goes on to your uh sensitive computers that actively looks and sees if there's anything on there. That's a security threat. [4:19:23, 4:19:43]: And it's a step above antivirus, but we've actually had this recently with a county in South Carolina where it helped stop actual ransomware before we got notified about it before it actually executed and was able to block it. So um it's very it's a very good solution. It's not a lot of money um for the year, but the payoff. [4:19:43, 4:19:56]: off of having it in place is really big. The Cisco multi-factor factor authentication is what we budget in there as well in one of the new proje projects that I listed. [4:19:56, 4:20:06]: uh the Barracuda email, that is the upgrade of the email solution um before. Um and then dark web monitoring was the other new item. Everything else are just the standard. [4:20:06, 4:20:08]: Um things that you guys have had from [4:20:09, 4:20:13]: the previous years so not much has changed on there. We have no major um [4:20:13, 4:20:17]: Uh capital expenditures as far as hardware upgrades. Uh [4:20:17, 4:20:26]: Some and anything that is there is going to be related to building um projects as far as Ted Strickland are for the police department. So um [4:20:26, 4:20:46]: There's no way really to estimate that until we actually get building plans. Um, even though we've been in the the PD, the proposed PD building, but still we know there's going to be some work that needs to be done there. So um this is uh kind of what we have laid out, you know, as far as the proposed budget. Like I said, not much has changed from last year. Um and uh uh the hot new item. [4:20:46, 4:20:48]: or what's um highlighted in there. [4:20:49, 4:20:49]: Um [4:20:53, 4:21:00]: Just want to ask, does anybody have any questions on any of the projects for this upcoming year or any of the budget information? [4:21:00, 4:21:20]: Well first of all, I appreciate your briefing, uh, Mr. Smith. And it seems as though to keep us safe and secure for the next year and to expand for any additional services that we need uh with the incoming police department, uh obviously those calls seem to be justified in this aspect. So I'll leave it there at this moment. Uh but uh [4:21:20, 4:21:22]: questions council that you may have. [4:21:25, 4:21:27]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, Mayor Pro Tem. Go ahead. [4:21:28, 4:21:36]: Yeah, I'm not sure what involvement you have uh in the amphitheater uh in terms of uh the Wi-Fi. [4:21:36, 4:21:40]: Uh, we had expressed a desire previously about having [4:21:40, 4:21:45]: That Wi Fi cover an extended area over into the park and into the downtown. [4:21:46, 4:21:47]: So tell us about [4:21:47, 4:21:48]: Uh the Wi Fi. [4:21:49, 4:21:49]: Um [4:21:49, 4:21:51]: Yes. At the at the amphitheater. [4:21:51, 4:22:11]: Yeah, so we've had a couple of groups involved in doing surveys. So our recommendation for Wi-Fi is the city does not own anything that deals with public Wi-Fi. That's kind of a liability piece on there, and most cities have stopped doing it. What they have done is is partnering with uh with other groups, AT<unk>T, T-Mobile, Spectrum, Comcast, to run those for their facilities. [4:22:11, 4:22:12]: Um [4:22:12, 4:22:29]: Example would be uh Sandy Springs Performant Arts Center. Comcast runs that and provides the Wi-Fi for the outdoor areas in there. So we've engaged ATT. Um I've reached out to them last week to get a meeting on their board for uh they've already done a preliminary design for it. Those things normally have to be pushed. [4:22:30, 4:22:31]: Scheduled with them. [4:22:32, 4:22:52]: Years in advance for it. Um, but they've actually gone through, sped up, and done a design phase for it. And I'm waiting for confirmation so they can explain the design to Mr. Knighton and uh Mr. Wiggins. And what that will do is it'll take the liability of managing the system, the hardware and everything off of the city, and you pretty much pay them each month to kind of manage. [4:22:52, 4:23:07]: manage it um and it wouldn't have to cause an increase for IT staff to do anything else um as far as managing the service. Um and then also what they would do in there is that they would give you options for expanding that to if you wanted to do more of like a [4:23:07, 4:23:21]: I want to say a city campus type of a thing, but they would be able to build on and already have the back end for it. Um ATT was like really the only group we were able to get with that was be that was willing to take on something like this. We talked to T Mobile, um, and they're a little bit on the side of [4:23:21, 4:23:30]: They don't like like it unless you move your phone services over to them as well. And uh same thing with Verizon. Verizon, they're really not. [4:23:31, 4:23:42]: They've they're trying to get away from some of that unless they take over the management of of these places as well. So ATT was one of the groups. The only issue that we saw, and this is more of just um [4:23:43, 4:23:49]: Let's say an aesthetic thing with uh the amphitheater is the amount of radios they're requesting um to put up. [4:23:50, 4:23:53]: uh before the level service that they want to provide. [4:23:53, 4:23:54]: Uh, it's a lot. [4:23:55, 4:24:09]: And would have an impact on the look and feel of the amphitheater, honestly. Um, you know, it's you know where you have the awnings that are there. I think in one of the drawings they showed us it was like six radios. And I think that was just way too much overkill. And it would make your amphitheater look. [4:24:09, 4:24:19]: not that good. So we asked them to go back to the drawing board because I just couldn't in good conscience submit a design to you guys like that and say that it was a recommended thing and knowing full well that [4:24:20, 4:24:40]: You guys would walk into the amphitheater and probably be very upset about seeing these, you know, 12 by 12 boxes, white boxes hanging off with these metal things to all over the place. So um in that meeting, they'll they'll discuss what their alternatives possibly could be with city management. And then we get a better idea of what they can do. [4:24:40, 4:24:48]: Um now with the wireless internally to the buildings, though, that will be available and we'll be able to have guests that are there for any of the functions like. [4:24:48, 4:24:53]: for the people who might be performing or city staff or whoever else, they will be able to get access to those. [4:24:54, 4:25:10]: Yeah, in t in uh in terms of um coordination, I guess all of this can work together. I mean we have a city app that um we use uh as well. I guess you know, stuff like that can provide information directly to the app. Are you have you uh had any [4:25:10, 4:25:11]: Met with uh [4:25:11, 4:25:17]: Um IT simple. Have you met with them or had any discussions with them about the app, City app? [4:25:17, 4:25:19]: Uh no, sir. Uh uh. [4:25:19, 4:25:22]: We we we certainly need to do that to talk about, you know. [4:25:23, 4:25:24]: Coordination between the two. [4:25:25, 4:25:36]: So uh we can get more use out of the city app because it's out there and it's uh it's very user friendly and allows so many other options to be available to communicate with the city. [4:25:36, 4:25:38]: Uh via the app. [4:25:40, 4:25:41]: Okay. [4:25:41, 4:25:49]: Yeah, wherever I can wherever we can help that's that definitely hope don't mind stuff. And mist and Mr. Knight would have to direct you to do that and to [4:25:50, 4:25:52]: work uh through those uh issues. [4:25:54, 4:25:54]: All right. [4:25:55, 4:25:56]: You know the questions, council? [4:25:58, 4:26:00]: Anybody else from Mr. Smith? [4:26:01, 4:26:03]: IT developer into enter dev. [4:26:04, 4:26:10]: All right. Um, okay, I see none. Okay. Well, we'll move on. Thank you, Mr. Smith, for your presentation. Really appreciate it. [4:26:11, 4:26:11]: Right, thank you. [4:26:12, 4:26:12]: No problem. [4:26:13, 4:26:15]: Okay, Ms. Knight, back to you again, sir. [4:26:19, 4:26:37]: All right, thank you very much. Next up, uh we have uh Mr. Deshius Aaron who is on and he is going to um go through the public works uh budgets, the various divisions there in public works, and uh speak to you about their 2022 budget requests. [4:26:37, 4:26:38]: Okay. [4:26:39, 4:26:44]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. I'll be as brief as possible. I know this is the last presentation. [4:26:45, 4:26:57]: for the day. But first of all, I'd just like to say this has been a trying week for public works as we lost one of our teammates, Lewis Payne, on Monday. Lewis had been with the City of Stockbridge Sewer Department for 28 years. [4:26:58, 4:27:02]: And of the nine employees in the store in the sewer department. [4:27:03, 4:27:15]: Six of them had over 20 years of service dedicated to the city of Stockbridge. And one thing I always told Brad I admire by the sewer department, they always ate lunch together. [4:27:15, 4:27:20]: Either it was in a break room or on Friday, they went out to a local restaurant in the community and [4:27:21, 4:27:26]: Just knowing that going forward, we'll walk in that break room at lunchtime and you won't see him there. [4:27:27, 4:27:43]: And just the fact that a couple of weeks ago he was so excited about this motorcycle he had just purchased that he was gonna ride to Helen to the Rural Water Association Fall Conference. So we just ask that you'll keep his family in prayer. He had a young son, I think he's 22 or 23 years old. [4:27:43, 4:27:46]: And so we just ask that you keep his family in prayer. [4:27:47, 4:27:55]: The Department of Public Works is charged with providing the following basic core services. We provide water support, water, sewer, stormwater management. [4:27:56, 4:28:00]: Sanitation, right-of-way maintenance, street maintenance, and park maintenance. [4:28:00, 4:28:03]: And if I'm allowed, I'd like to share my screen. [4:28:04, 4:28:05]: Sure, go ahead, please. [4:28:06, 4:28:07]: Uh [4:28:15, 4:28:16]: Can everybody see that? [4:28:17, 4:28:18]: Yes, we can. [4:28:18, 4:28:19]: Okay, so [4:28:20, 4:28:21]: Uh [4:28:24, 4:28:27]: So this is our FY 2022 budget. [4:28:27, 4:28:47]: First of all, this is a picture of our new public works building. We're waiting for IT to finish their installation as well as the phones to be installed. We've had the majority of the furniture has been delivered. It's installed. So we're hoping to move in by October. This will give us an opportunity to consolidate our department. [4:28:47, 4:28:52]: pretty much in one building. It'll also provide great opportunities for training. [4:28:52, 4:28:54]: We've got a fifty room training. [4:28:55, 4:29:13]: facility in that building. We've got workspaces where supervisors can work and use computers. We got employees can learn how to use computers. So it's going to be a great facility for employees and training and things of that nature where we all can get together on a more routine basis for training. [4:29:14, 4:29:34]: And here are some of the things that projects that Public Works has completed. This is from January 1st, 2017 to July 30th, 2021. We've completed over$25.5 million in projects. Public Works is 9.5 million, sewers$10, government buildings is$2.2 million. [4:29:34, 4:29:39]: million parts is two point two million, water is about two million, and stormwater is [4:29:39, 4:29:45]: a million and we've currently got about eight to nine million dollars worth of projects in the design stages. [4:29:46, 4:29:47]: And [4:29:48, 4:29:59]: Introduction is developing the annual public works budget is a serious undertaking that takes most of a year to complete and involves several meetings with staff, consultants, and contracted service providers. [4:29:59, 4:30:19]: The goal is to ensure the needs of the community are met in a uniform, affordable manner to include service delivery that meets local aspirations. The competition between wants and needs is an annual exercise to determine what is best. During the ensuing year, the public works department will prepare for change and provide advanced information. [4:30:19, 4:30:20]: To a mayor. [4:30:20, 4:30:25]: Council and city manager, the FY22 budget is not able to fund every project. [4:30:25, 4:30:30]: or aspiration, but it maintains spending in all areas and provides services. [4:30:30, 4:30:31]: Without chars. [4:30:31, 4:30:34]: The public works department has an operating budget for [4:30:35, 4:30:38]: FY twenty twenty two of thirteen point six million. [4:30:38, 4:30:43]: These funds are broken out into five funding sources. The general fund provides money for public works. [4:30:44, 4:30:53]: General maintenance parks and government buildings and water sewer, stonewater, and sanitational enterprise funds that are funded through user fees as charges for various services. [4:30:53, 4:30:56]: So this is a comparison, a graph of [4:30:57, 4:31:08]: FY21 versus FY22 budget. The proposed budget is a 14% increase over the FY 2021 budget. And we'll get into that as we move forward into the [4:31:09, 4:31:15]: Presentation as discussed again on FY twenty twenty twenty-two budget. Here are some highlights of what has occurred. [4:31:16, 4:31:22]: In 2021, our water and wastewater system received gold awards for 100% compliance for operations. [4:31:23, 4:31:28]: We replaced the bridges on the Reed's Creek Trail. The trail is now open and everybody gets to enjoy it. [4:31:28, 4:31:37]: We expanded the parking lot at the Reeves Creek Trail and we resurfaced as we normally do five miles of roads in the city of Stockbridge. [4:31:37, 4:31:45]: Our goals for the budget are to conservatively estimate revenues and expenditures to avoid expectation of performance that are not realistic. [4:31:46, 4:31:50]: team to improve efficiency and effectiveness of our public works division. [4:31:51, 4:32:00]: to integrate continuous improvement processes into our public works culture, to have key processes and procedures clarified, streamlined, and documented. [4:32:00, 4:32:03]: to develop and build a skill responsive workforce. [4:32:04, 4:32:12]: and the implementation of innovative applications that will enhance quality and efficiency of services and maximize utilization of resources. [4:32:12, 4:32:25]: Our basic year-to-year budget objectives always remain constant: maintain or improve core services, address capital needs, explore opportunities to consolidate, improve efficiency, generate new revenue. [4:32:25, 4:32:27]: And protect existing assets. [4:32:28, 4:32:41]: And then some of the challenges are increased demands for higher level of service with the limited staff and resources, transition of staff and operations to the new public works facility, which is gonna be a very big challenge. [4:32:42, 4:32:46]: Technology information explosion, customer needs. [4:32:46, 4:32:50]: Deteriorating infrastructure, maintain maintenance of existing infrastructure. [4:32:51, 4:33:01]: inability to replace critical equipment in a timely manner, limitation on resources, and the need to balance the provision of basic services against competing needs. [4:33:01, 4:33:06]: And then you know that normal key drivers of any budget and budget increases are salaries. [4:33:07, 4:33:13]: reprising employer retirement costs, healthcare costs, service contract inflation increases. [4:33:14, 4:33:16]: New programs and service restorations. [4:33:17, 4:33:20]: So here's a comparison of our FY [4:33:21, 4:33:22]: When it too. [4:33:22, 4:33:25]: budget versus the FY 2021 and public works. [4:33:26, 4:33:29]: The budget proposed budget increases by thirteen percent. [4:33:29, 4:33:31]: Or four hundred and ninety two thousand. [4:33:32, 4:33:34]: Four hundred and ninety one dollars, but within that [4:33:34, 4:33:37]: We've increased the spending for [4:33:37, 4:33:52]: uh landscaping and beautification. And we've also wanna implement, we had a sidewalk assessment completed by one of our consultant engineers. So we want to start implementing a sidewalk repair and maintenance program as we do with our street resurfacing. [4:33:53, 4:33:54]: government buildings. [4:33:54, 4:33:58]: The budgeting proposed budget increases by twenty nine percent. [4:33:58, 4:34:01]: Which is three hundred and sixty nine thousand one hundred and eighty dollars. [4:34:02, 4:34:03]: Majority of that is [4:34:04, 4:34:17]: Due to the landscaping, we're currently negotiating and finalizing our landscaping contract. And we're adding some new facilities, mainly the amphitheater and the public works building, and also have some more detailed sculpture works for them to perform. [4:34:17, 4:34:24]: And we're also upgrading the access control for all those city buildings. So we're all on one platform. [4:34:24, 4:34:27]: And parts increases by sixty six thousand nine hundred. [4:34:27, 4:34:31]: That's mainly due to some maintenance issues with some of the bridges and the parks. [4:34:33, 4:34:36]: And then our enterprise funds, which are funded by user fees. [4:34:37, 4:34:40]: And does not impact the general fund budget. [4:34:40, 4:34:42]: The water budget increases by [4:34:43, 4:34:44]: By eight percent. [4:34:44, 4:34:45]: And uh [4:34:46, 4:34:53]: That's mainly due to chemical costs and electrical costs and things of that nature. Sewer increases by 142. [4:34:53, 4:34:57]: thousand dollars as we're doing some things with our skater requires [4:34:58, 4:35:18]: Some maintenance agreements that we have to maintain. Stormwater, we're proposing increase by$384,359, but that includes the purchase of a second street sweeper. I know some council members have wanted to see staff increase the frequency of street sweeping. So a new street sweeper is [4:35:18, 4:35:20]: Anticipated in the budget. [4:35:20, 4:35:29]: And sanitation is increases by$267,000. That increase is mainly due to the building of a new residence in. [4:35:29, 4:35:34]: Areas in and stop ridge, mainly like the Winding Creek and some other subdivisions. [4:35:35, 4:35:37]: And so this is uh [4:35:38, 4:35:40]: A chart of where the majority of [4:35:41, 4:35:43]: As the expenditures for the budget. [4:35:43, 4:35:45]: Public words, which is general maintenance. [4:35:46, 4:35:47]: Uh [4:35:48, 4:36:00]: takes 28% of the budget, then water is 18%, sewer is 15%, stormwater is 12%, sanitation is 15%, parks is 3%, and government buildings is 9%. [4:36:01, 4:36:10]: Then we look at a staff, we were just talking about uh sewer department had over six employees with over 20 years of service to the city of Stockbridge. [4:36:10, 4:36:11]: We've got [4:36:12, 4:36:13]: Uh [4:36:13, 4:36:17]: 54% of our staff has over 10 plus years with the city. [4:36:18, 4:36:19]: Uh [4:36:20, 4:36:23]: Twenty two percent have six to nine years and twenty four [4:36:24, 4:36:25]: Zero to five years. [4:36:26, 4:36:33]: Then I'll personally have a request, like I said, we're requesting to add an additional stormwater technician in the stormwater department. [4:36:34, 4:36:36]: operate the new street sweeper. [4:36:36, 4:36:39]: And this is a graph of our full time employees by division. [4:36:39, 4:36:49]: We have a total of 52, four in stormwater, nine in sewer, eight in water, three in government buildings, 26 in public works, and two in public works administration. [4:36:50, 4:36:53]: And these are the full-time employees by fun. [4:36:54, 4:37:02]: Uh four come out of stormwater, nine out of sewer, eight out of water, two out of sanitation, and twenty-nine come out of the general fund budget. [4:37:02, 4:37:10]: And these are just comparison graphs of budgets from 2019 to 2022. [4:37:11, 4:37:12]: And [4:37:13, 4:37:18]: That's all for the presentation out in that part of the presentation. [4:37:19, 4:37:20]: And [4:37:21, 4:37:23]: I'll answer any questions if [4:37:23, 4:37:43]: Yeah, I I have some uh des issue on mine. Uh my first question deals with uh you mentioned about the new public works building. I think you said something along the lines about moving moving into it, some difficulties or some uh some something that may be occurring. I mean, can you expound on how you're going to move from one location to another and what type of problems or issues? [4:37:43, 4:37:44]: Issues that may be with moving. [4:37:45, 4:37:53]: The delays are mainly waiting on IT to get equipment in to for the internet services, the phones. [4:37:53, 4:38:06]: And and things of that nature. It's not anything with the building itself, but just having the IT equipment there so that staff can be fully functional and operational once we move into the building. [4:38:06, 4:38:26]: And you have a timeline or and maybe I missed it if you explained it, but you have a timeline for when that's going to be done for you? Well, we'll have a better idea Friday. IT is coming Friday. They'll be working from nine to five. That's what the email state. So we'll get a report from them as to when they'll be finished with the IT, but like with a lot of other [4:38:26, 4:38:26]: [16707.1, 16718.9]: industries obtaining the chips and things of that sort are a hindrance to the computer equipment. So we'll have a better idea Friday as to when we can physically move into the building. [4:38:39, 4:38:59]: Okay, um landscaping. Um there's an increase for landscaping it it deals with the uh I guess with the public works aspect and you add on a chart and there's another increase which says landscaping and you talked about the amphitheater, other public buildings. So I just wanted this to talk because like there's two categories of increased landscaping. I just kind of get an understanding of that. [4:38:59, 4:39:12]: Yes, one of them is uh some areas of the city that were being maintained by the county, like Campground Road, we'll revert over to the city. We weren't maintaining that. Some areas on Jodico. [4:39:12, 4:39:24]: But also last year when we did the budget, we didn't have an amphitheater, we didn't have a public works building. So those two facilities are gonna have to be brought on board for landscape maintenance and [4:39:25, 4:39:40]: Amphitheater has some very detailed landscaping that's going to take a lot of maintenance to make sure it has the appearance that council would like for it to have, as well as City Hall and other government buildings. So that's going to lead to an increase in the landscaping costs. [4:39:41, 4:39:49]: All right, and sanitation costs are going up based on the a couple of different uh communities that we add. Is that is that what you were indicating as well? [4:39:49, 4:39:55]: Is going yes sir based on the housing housing building of houses as well as [4:39:55, 4:39:59]: in GFL contract it provides for three the [4:40:00, 4:40:02]: The citizens would not bear an increase. [4:40:02, 4:40:13]: But we will, the city will, because GFL can implement the CPI should they choose, with tradition traditionally three to five percent. [4:40:14, 4:40:16]: And so that would lead to an increase. [4:40:16, 4:40:17]: But the [4:40:17, 4:40:20]: Customer cost will remain the same. [4:40:20, 4:40:23]: All right, fantastic. Um, Mayor Pro Tan, go ahead, you're unmuted. [4:40:24, 4:40:31]: Yes, sir. Um, Mr. Aaron, there's been some uh I'm glad to hear you say that you guys are moving forward with another street sweeper. [4:40:31, 4:40:35]: And that um will be staffed by a [4:40:35, 4:40:38]: Someone full time on that particular [4:40:38, 4:40:39]: On the new one as well. [4:40:40, 4:40:44]: Yes, sir. Our goal is to have two street sweepers in operations at all times. [4:40:45, 4:40:47]: Okay, uh I you know [4:40:48, 4:40:56]: I would like to see these street sweepers used at the expressway exits because they are the gate they are the gateways to our city, especially around [4:40:57, 4:40:59]: All the exits, whether you turn in and you turn out. [4:41:00, 4:41:03]: There's always a lot of cigarette butts and paper and everything. [4:41:03, 4:41:06]: Soon as you pull off the exit at when you turn in. [4:41:06, 4:41:10]: One thirty eight, Eagles Landing, Jodica, all three of them. [4:41:10, 4:41:13]: That we would use the street sweeper in those areas right at [4:41:14, 4:41:16]: right at the exit to be able to [4:41:16, 4:41:18]: uh you know, make a real impact. [4:41:19, 4:41:22]: Uh on those areas. I have seen a difference. I have seen the street sweeper. [4:41:23, 4:41:24]: Uh, out in the community. [4:41:24, 4:41:29]: Uh more regularly, and people are very excited about it. Had a couple of requests. [4:41:29, 4:41:31]: For the streets we would and we forwarded over so [4:41:32, 4:41:37]: Uh yeah. And then they do uh cut use the street sweeper. Every neighborhood gets hit. [4:41:37, 4:41:39]: Uh once a month, is that correct? [4:41:40, 4:41:43]: I don't have to look at a schedule, but that's our goal. [4:41:43, 4:41:44]: Mm-hmm. [4:41:44, 4:41:50]: is to do that. But like I said right now we currently have that's why we want to bring on a third person with a CDL. [4:41:51, 4:41:57]: 'Cause you only have two people that have CDLs in the department that can operate the street sweeper. So if one goes on vacation or [4:41:58, 4:42:04]: something happened with both of them, then you don't have that option. So that that's our goal is to employ another CDL. [4:42:05, 4:42:06]: licensed employee. [4:42:07, 4:42:08]: Okay, and [4:42:09, 4:42:11]: In terms of the right of way cutting, uh [4:42:11, 4:42:16]: You can tell the difference on Highway One Thirty Eight. You can tell the difference on Walt Stevens. [4:42:16, 4:42:18]: Oh, you can tell the difference on [4:42:18, 4:42:20]: Um Rob Cory wrote [4:42:20, 4:42:25]: The you know, the issue is this like on the county does um [4:42:25, 4:42:27]: Campground Road now. And they cut [4:42:28, 4:42:29]: All of the right of way. [4:42:30, 4:42:32]: That limitation of cutting like [4:42:32, 4:42:34]: Five feet or [4:42:34, 4:42:35]: Ten feet of them. [4:42:36, 4:42:37]: Right of way. [4:42:37, 4:42:41]: You have a little patch of grass cut, which is good for people who have to walk. [4:42:41, 4:42:43]: But the rest of it is not cut. [4:42:44, 4:42:47]: It's just like when you drive down Walt Stevens Road, Mayor. [4:42:47, 4:42:49]: And you drive past the barber shop. [4:42:49, 4:42:50]: Mm. [4:42:50, 4:42:57]: And you got that little path that's cut, but all of that next to the mandaly and leading to [4:42:57, 4:42:57]: Uh [4:42:58, 4:43:02]: Uh Monarch Village and Autumn is is just a jungle over there. [4:43:02, 4:43:07]: We we all of that is right of way. So we need to incorporate all of that into [4:43:08, 4:43:19]: Um all of the right-of-way, not just 10 feet, not just whatever the right-of-way is. And I can tell you, when you drive down Campground Road and the County is doing it, boy, they get all of the right-of-way. [4:43:19, 4:43:22]: And it looks so much better because it's clean. [4:43:22, 4:43:25]: And it's done all the time. I certainly would like to see you. [4:43:25, 4:43:26]: uh incorporate that. [4:43:27, 4:43:30]: uh into your plan to be able to move forward with that. [4:43:30, 4:43:32]: Uh to get that taken care of. [4:43:34, 4:43:34]: Um [4:43:35, 4:43:36]: Also [4:43:36, 4:43:38]: What was one other thing? Um [4:43:40, 4:43:47]: Oh, come back to me. I've lost that lost that. Council, any other questions uh from Mr. Aaron? Anybody on the council? [4:43:50, 4:43:50]: Okay. [4:43:51, 4:43:53]: Okay, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [4:43:54, 4:43:59]: Mr. Aaron, your increase in public works, uh well, with the landscaping. [4:44:00, 4:44:01]: Um is that for contract? [4:44:02, 4:44:05]: or increase in manpower. [4:44:05, 4:44:10]: That's that's with contractor that will be performing the landscaping services. [4:44:10, 4:44:11]: For the city. [4:44:11, 4:44:19]: And that increase, as I stated earlier, you incorp incorporating the amphitheater and the grounds around the amphitheater. [4:44:19, 4:44:21]: It's very detailed landscaping. [4:44:22, 4:44:25]: Ет та амфітер, а на но. [4:44:25, 4:44:32]: that counseling is gonna wanna see it looking its best at all times when you have visitors and events over there and [4:44:32, 4:44:36]: And we wanna concur with council's wishes and that's what we're pushing to do. [4:44:37, 4:44:38]: Okay, thank you. [4:44:39, 4:44:47]: Okay, I got it, Mayor. If you good by me. Okay, in the in the downtown area and Mr. Nighting, uh you're on as well. [4:44:47, 4:44:52]: Uh well we're doing the downtown area and we're working with Norfolk Southern right now. [4:44:52, 4:44:54]: In terms of the quiet zone. [4:44:55, 4:44:57]: Well we need in in the uh in the rail yard over there. [4:44:58, 4:45:06]: We need to work with Norfolk Southern on cutting that grass all the way to the railroad tracks. Well, however close they will let us get. [4:45:06, 4:45:14]: Because when you look at the downtown and then you look over the wall and you see all that grass or behind the Chinese restaurant. [4:45:14, 4:45:17]: down there. It's not it looks unkept. [4:45:18, 4:45:29]: We want that same appearance that we expect for the amphitheater to be representative of Martin Luther King's Senior Heritage Trail in downtown, where all of the grass is cut. [4:45:30, 4:45:46]: And uh as we work through this agreement with Norfolk Southern, we want to make sure that we uh get the get permission to be able to cut on the other side of that wall as close to the tracks as possible that they will allow us to in their space because [4:45:46, 4:45:52]: It looks unkept on that side and it it is right in the middle of downtown. [4:45:52, 4:45:54]: That's my point of view because [4:45:55, 4:46:00]: I see it all the time when I go through there and I'm like, wow, this it just really looks unkept. [4:46:00, 4:46:06]: uh in that area and we just cut like right up to the wall and then sometimes not even to the wall. [4:46:06, 4:46:09]: But of all of that is maintained in our downtown. [4:46:09, 4:46:13]: And hopefully we'll be able to work transitioning the storage area out of there. [4:46:13, 4:46:15]: It'll just have that really complete look. [4:46:16, 4:46:30]: uh that we that that we want uh in downtown. But I certainly would like to see hear you respond to the last question as well is by increasing those right-of-ways cuttings and may maybe Mr. Knighton can comp comment on that as well. [4:46:33, 4:46:45]: Well, in some areas the right-of-way is not as wide as people think. Understood. And you have to be careful when you get out the right-of-way because even on Rock Quarry Road, there are some areas we want to cut, but [4:46:45, 4:46:51]: It's it's dangerous. Those are drop offs you don't see because the grass is hiding it. [4:46:51, 4:46:56]: And a lot of times once you get out the right of way, the state or city or hasn't maintained it. [4:46:57, 4:47:13]: And then you start getting on private property, but you don't want to see someone on a mower that they think is level ground and it's not. So we're cutting the majority of those are the right-of-ways and they're not as expansive as might be thought of. [4:47:14, 4:47:16]: Well what what I'm saying to you is that [4:47:16, 4:47:21]: You know, just like at highway one thirty eight at I seventy five. [4:47:21, 4:47:24]: I won't I would like to see all of that cut. [4:47:24, 4:47:25]: When it's cut. [4:47:26, 4:47:27]: And if there's no [4:47:27, 4:47:33]: There's no worry about having to fall off or anything like that because G Dot cuts it every forty five days. [4:47:34, 4:47:42]: But it looks unkept between those times where it's where that goes. The situation, the same situation is on Walt Stevens Road. [4:47:42, 4:47:48]: That land nobody's worried about falling off to the right hand side over there by Mandalay. [4:47:48, 4:47:50]: It it is just unkept. [4:47:50, 4:47:59]: And then you might have to get somebody over there with a weed eater to cut close to the fence and all of that. That's the finished a hundred percent look. [4:47:59, 4:48:10]: that we want to see. I don't and I personally I want to see because the the five feet past the sidewalker, that's just not good enough. Not for me. And um [4:48:10, 4:48:12]: It's not pr it's not a good projection on [4:48:13, 4:48:16]: on where we're trying to go. It edged us closer to where we want to go. [4:48:17, 4:48:21]: But let's go the rest of the way and get the whole job done. [4:48:22, 4:48:34]: Well, I would like to chime in on that since I live in that area. I mean, it'd be great to see that taken care of in this aspect, uh, without a doubt, uh, especially as you continue on on a westerly direction all the way to Black Hall Road. [4:48:34, 4:48:39]: But you have you run into private proper we'll actually run into a strip mall down there as well. But uh [4:48:39, 4:48:41]: But it'd be good if we're able to take care of that. [4:48:41, 4:48:52]: It'd be good and because people walk down there all the time. Actually, we need a we need a a trail really down that way, regardless. But anyway, um, any other comments from the council or from Mr. Aaron's. [4:48:54, 4:48:55]: Anybody? [4:48:56, 4:49:13]: All right. Well good deal. Then uh thanks, Mr. Mr. Aaron. Appreciate your uh briefing. Right. Ms. Mr. Mayor and Council, we appreciate Mayor and Council's support of public works and the things we're trying to accomplish. In closing, I just ask that you please remember Lewis Payne's family when you pray because you know. [4:49:14, 4:49:21]: His son is going through a lot. His son lived with him. So and now he doesn't have that resource. So we just ask for your continued prayer. [4:49:21, 4:49:35]: Absolutely. We'll do. Thank you. And what we have next uh is actually an added uh addition uh that was passed earlier in in the meeting. Uh and actually it's a it deals with a process or a process to discuss a personnel matter. [4:49:35, 4:49:55]: As I think about it further, and we can do this uh openly if we can, but I also thought that it might be more appropriate to talk about this in since a personnel issue in an executive session. My thoughts and recommendations as I thought about it during the course of the day. Now, obviously that is something that is it's by way of the the council itself, but I thought it might be a best way to do that. [4:49:55, 4:50:03]: What are your thoughts, counsel, and rather than do to deal with this personnel issue or what I consider a personnel issue anyway, in executive session versus right now here publicly? [4:50:04, 4:50:05]: I blame it now. [4:50:06, 4:50:08]: Excuse me now. Executive session. [4:50:08, 4:50:13]: Okay. So that we can hash out whatever we need to hash out there. [4:50:13, 4:50:15]: and come back out here. [4:50:15, 4:50:16]: Okay. [4:50:16, 4:50:17]: Any other thoughts? [4:50:19, 4:50:39]: All right. Well, if that's the case, if if if there are no other thoughts on that, I think that we should go to Zecco session. Thank you for that, Councilman Barber and everybody. So what we'd like to do then is uh is to go to Zecco session. Uh so we'll need a special link uh sent to us so we can do that and get in there maybe within the next 10 minutes. Uh so um uh Vanessa and and I are IT [4:50:39, 4:50:59]: Mr. Bonds, please uh and that would be that would involve of course uh uh this entire council uh in this aspect as well. Uh the clerk would need to I would imagine would need to be in. And then uh uh our attorney is not here, and uh say Renee as a as HR and uh [4:50:59, 4:51:08]: will need to be in there as as well. So everybody would those individuals need to get a connection to the Zecco session. So we'll we'll see you in the execut session in about 10 minutes. Please send us the links. Thank you. [5:01:24, 5:01:26]: All right, all right. [5:01:27, 5:01:33]: It says uh rec okay, recording now. Okay. It says no, you are in a practice session. [5:01:33, 5:01:37]: Okay, now we're all we're live we're live on uh on uh Facebook again. [5:01:38, 5:01:40]: Okay, I see here. [5:01:41, 5:01:48]: Um Mr. Bond, we've got to be not be in a private okay, thank you, sir. Very much. There you go. All right. All right. [5:01:48, 5:01:52]: Please excuse me. My my listen, hold on a second. Uh-oh. [5:01:55, 5:01:57]: Okay. [5:02:01, 5:02:05]: All right, we're missing somebody. Uh darn it. [5:02:06, 5:02:08]: Um [5:02:09, 5:02:10]: But you do have a quorum there. [5:02:11, 5:02:15]: W oh yeah, okay. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Yeah. I'm all confused. Okay. [5:02:16, 5:02:17]: Okay, let's do this. [5:02:17, 5:02:20]: All right, council. We need a motion to go into second session, please. [5:02:21, 5:02:21]: So [5:02:22, 5:02:22]: Okay, there's a second. [5:02:23, 5:02:25]: Maybe. [5:02:25, 5:02:29]: Is there a second? [5:02:30, 5:02:35]: Real estate and litigation. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [5:02:37, 5:02:38]: Mr. Blount. [5:02:39, 5:02:40]: No. [5:02:42, 5:02:43]: Okay. [5:02:43, 5:02:44]: Okay. [5:02:46, 5:02:56]: All right. Well right now we do not have a consensus. Okay. Um all right. [5:02:57, 5:02:58]: Okay, so [5:03:00, 5:03:20]: We either we either don't go into Zagos session because we don't have a consensus or we if it's a personnel matter. Once again, those are processes though. And uh so I think that we should talk about the Zagosession. We do not have an attorney present with us at this point and won't until sometime. It won't be remotely available until four o'clock after four o'clock today, but we will have [5:03:19, 5:03:35]: uh our attorneys with us tomorrow and that will be um and we'll have both our attorneys with us tomorrow. So there is an issue we could talk about the SEGO session tomorrow when both our attorneys and the um the council. [5:03:35, 5:03:43]: Well, we're just waiting on Councilman Thomas to come in, right? I don't think he is going to be with us for some strange reason. [5:03:45, 5:03:46]: Let me let's call them and see. [5:03:47, 5:03:50]: Mayor, you took a boat, it didn't pass. [5:03:50, 5:03:51]: How about it? [5:03:52, 5:03:52]: All right. [5:03:55, 5:04:08]: I think that uh we uh we would uh I think it's probably best that we we we we probably have to delay this conversation until we get a Zegor session and do this tomorrow in this point. We'll have a f we'll have a full quorum tomorrow to be able to do this. [5:04:08, 5:04:09]: Okay. [5:04:11, 5:04:19]: So um in this aspect. So now I in this aspect of this we'll close out the budget meeting. So we no longer have a quorum. [5:04:20, 5:04:22]: So you know how so we just we just [5:04:23, 5:04:26]: We'll just have to adjourn the meeting. You no longer have a forum. Right. [5:04:26, 5:04:32]: Right. Excuse me for that. Uh my my bag. We'll we'll close out the meeting for tonight. We'll meet again tomorrow morning. [5:04:32, 5:04:39]: And we'll be able we'll be able to discuss the issue. It'll be discussed. Okay. Okay. Have a good evening, folks. Bye. Bye-bye.